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>> I will now call the special

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City Council meeting on Monday

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JULY 13th, 2026 to order Clerk

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Please call the roll

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The Council PRESIDENT Council

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Member Campbell here Council

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Member Whitburn Council Member

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Wolper Present Council

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PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee here

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Council Member Campion here

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Council Member Moreno Council

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Member Ella Rivera and Council

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PRESIDENT LaCava present also

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attending the meeting are City

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Attorney Heather Ferber,

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independent budget analyst

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Charles Monica and myself.

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Your city clerk Diana Fuentes.

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Council PRESIDENT All right,

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an invocation by Clark 20th

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followed with the land

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acknowledging and the Pledge of

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member Whitburn Grant those who

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the spirit of wisdom, charity

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and justice that was steadfast

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purpose They MAY faithfully

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serve in their offices to

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promote the well-being of all

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that the combination or

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the original inhabitants of

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the unseated land out of

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the San Diego despite enduring

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the horrors of genocide and

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call it as said the Kobe spirit

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remains unbroken.

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We are the resilience of their

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ancestors who fight to protect

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their culture and land today

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They carry their legacy forward

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ensuring that their traditions

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continue to thrive and

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gratitude and strength We stand

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with the nation connected to

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our past and committed to a

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again for the flag of

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the United States of America

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and to the Republic for which

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it stands One nation under GOD,

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indivisible with liberty and

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justice for all Without City

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Clerk please go over how

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the public can offer their

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the screen that reviews how

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that have submitted we do not

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better meeting management

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purposes each speaker will have

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Council PRESIDENT Conferences

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litigation pursuant to

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Flooding Litigation Conference

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States of America versus City

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of San Diego sc a six Condon

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human rights activist and also

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a government dissident so I

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wanted to apologize if my First

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on the United States District

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case about Americans with

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disabilities and sdsu And I

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States District Court should

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suspend hearing this on until

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until should not hear any more

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trials until a state of

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public service announcement is

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made concerning the efficacy of

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the court group rituals to read

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someone's mind because people

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madness across the world

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where the city of San Diego is

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getting sued concerned in

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on JANUARY 22nd 24 on with my

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Diego should put all lawsuits

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service announcement State of

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emergency and agenda item is

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created and heard on talking

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about how the efficacy of

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the code group rituals to read

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people's mind because people

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confused and driven to madness

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and priorities And for the case

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of the United States of America

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versus the city of San Diego,

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the Nazi boat channel on I

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being heard by the United

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States District Court.

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I honestly think as a citizen

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of San Diego who's witnessed

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the severity of the elephant in

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the room that the United States

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District Court should pause

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the culture rituals to read

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people's mind because people

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confused and German to madness

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in every city across the world

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with 8700 if you can please.

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Number one alleged violation of

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ada sidewalks, crosswalks and

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roadways are dangerous for all

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of us yet the disabled are

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the most vulnerable Yet our

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city has a structural budget

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deficit that is over 20 years

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Where is the money going to

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come from to help keep our

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young people safe and so they

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too can enjoy our beautiful

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flooding The evidence against

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the city is strong yet I call

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it a natural disaster Nature

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versus people to settle this

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you must show that you care.

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Use the spirit of the law and

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seek the balance of give and

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take on both sides.

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the gov info on this matter.

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It's about 16 pages of history.

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chess game to me.

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of agreement seems to be

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the strongest support for

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The Navy says it cost them 16

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million to do the work on

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the channel.

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fighting and I pray I pray

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the city has the better legal

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team.

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delinquent parking tickets.

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I am concerned about this case

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if it relates to a

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Union-Tribune article I read

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not long ago could it mushroom

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into many other cases?

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the law will prevail on this

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Blessings on all of these cases

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of a beautiful day and love to

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all.

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If you can please unmute and

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let me know which item or items

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you wish to speak to.

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>> I Blair Beekman Items one

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three, five and seven Please

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proceed.

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>> You have two minutes.

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Thank you.

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I Blair be happy Monday for

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the first item is about actions

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of a person trying to use or

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using disabilities Act asking

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about sidewalks, crosswalks and

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roadways in a city in San Diego

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State area If tech

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accountability can be any help

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to help mediate the situation

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or what the future of

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the situation can be about.

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And good luck in that effort.

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Tech MAY be around this item

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and the policies of tech

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accountability MAY be can be of

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help in some small way in

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helping decide and understand

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this issue better.

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Good luck in such efforts for

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item number three including

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litigation and good luck in

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working this out together

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acknowledging city's faults in

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concept and trying to mediate a

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middle ground between

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everybody.

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Good luck in that effort.

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But he said events for I see

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five process five this this is

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the Department of Navy and know

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argument with the city of San

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Diego that joy really described

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well thank you for her

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description and her ideas and

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feelings on the matter and yeah

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economy it seems clear to me

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this is an old argument

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actually is the port of San

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Diego involved with this

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The Port Authority of San Diego

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whatever their name is, are

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they involved with this also to

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help mediate the process?

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It seems like hopefully

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something can eventually be

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resolved with this And good

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luck in the process of doing

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that.

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I don't know the depth of

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the issue and working these

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things out are important.

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Good luck and finding the way

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to do that.

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Possibly the Port Authority can

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be of help to the committee and

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and and yeah there's new Port

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Authority staff good luck in

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that sort of effort with who

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used to work for the city by

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the way so that can be helpful

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for number seven item working

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on delinquent parking tickets

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Good luck on trying to practice

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concepts of equity with with

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the sort of parking ticket

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items finding new forms of good

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equity practices The work we've

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done with towing in

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the downtown area of San Diego

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and an overall you've done

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really good work with that.

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Thank you.

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And that I think could be a

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good model for an item such as

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this and future parking issues,

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the parking ticket issues

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overall.

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So good luck with this item.

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>> Thank you.

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Thank you.

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That does include public

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comment and closed session.

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All right.

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Thank you City clerk now we

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will adjourn as the city

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council to convene for a

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special housing authority

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meeting to take public comment

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on the housing authority closed

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session item or please read

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the Housing Authority closed

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session item into the record.

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Thank you.

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Council PRESIDENT Corporate

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Legal Counsel Anticipated

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Litigation Initiation of

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litigation between California

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Government Code Section 5495

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6.94 Special Housing Authority

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Closed Session one at number of

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cases one All right Without for

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you Excuse me.

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Proceed with public comment.

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Maximillian Schmidt, if you can

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please come forward.

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You'll have one minute to speak

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on this one item on Hi again.

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I want to say that I'm a human

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rights activist and

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self-proclaimed government

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dissident so my approach MAY

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seem unorthodox but I honestly

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believe with my First Amendment

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and in my opinion that

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the housing authority on should

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suspend hearing any any cases

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until a public service

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announcement State of emergency

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and agenda discussion item is

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created and heard concerning

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the efficacy of the core group

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rituals to read people's mind

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because people are getting

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confused and being even driven

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to insanity in every city

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across the world And we need to

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help save human life and souls

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and on That's all I have to say

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concerning that And again I am

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a human rights activist and I'm

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going to press for this

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discussion Item two on Be heard

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at City Hall.

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>> Thank you for the five

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minute time we're going to

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those participating remotely in

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700 If you can please unmute

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You'll have one minute.

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>> Please proceed.

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Thank you so much.

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I know that you're following

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the Brown Act on that and I

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really appreciate the Brown Act

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and how that works for our city

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government.

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So I just wanted to say that I

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don't and I don't say this

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lightly MAY the force be with

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you blessings on this process

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of decision making.

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I don't know what's involved

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but I just have sort of an

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unsettled feeling inside of me

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And I hope I hope that there's

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a need to be there.

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So again, blessings on this and

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I appreciate all of your work

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you very much pulling in all of

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you.

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These are Office of the City

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attorney.

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Thank you so much for your

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work.

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You're right.

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There are silent heroes all

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the time.

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So thank you so much to all.

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>> Thank you.

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That does conclude public

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comment on closed session.

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All right.

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Thank you, city clerk And we

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will now adjourn as the housing

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authority and reconvene as

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the city council.

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We will now recess in session

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and reconvene council today at

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the I'm Manuel Pereira.

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>> I have only muted you if you

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can do a quick mic check them.

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Yes we can hear you okay Thank

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you so much

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And that

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just so people

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wondering what's going on in

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the morning session that

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normally interview ended at 145

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also the reason some of my

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colleagues have not shown up

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yet and because the first thing

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we're going to do is we're

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going to hear potential

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candidates for appointment to

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the Commission on Police

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Practices.

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I think it's a courtesy for us

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to wait until the council

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members as possible connection

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with your posting.

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So that's one reason I haven't

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started the meeting even though

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we've got important So okay

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.

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And

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then and

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All right, thank

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you everyone for your patience.

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>> Good afternoon.

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I will now reconvene

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the special City Council

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meeting on Monday JULY 13th,

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2026.

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Please call the roll.

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I'm sorry.

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Thank you.

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Council PRESIDENT Council

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member Campbell Council Member

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Whitburn, Councilmember Foster

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and Councilmember Bunuel for

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Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

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Council Member campeon

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Councilmember Moreno,

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Councilmember Isla Rivera and

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Council PRESIDENT McGovern also

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attending the meeting our

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assistant city Attorney Leslie

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Fitzgerald, independent budget

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analyst Charles Monica and

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myself your city clerk Diana

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Fuentes.

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Thank you.

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Council PRESIDENT.

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All right.

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Real quickly, are there any

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comments from the mayor's

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office, council member, city

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attorney and the budget analyst

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city clerk not seeing any one

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move along So the clerk will

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now go over how the public can

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offer their testimony this

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afternoon.

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00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:23,834
Thank you.

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I'd like to highlight the slide

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on the screen that does review

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how the public know for their

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public testimony during this

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afternoon's meeting The order

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can be found on the agenda

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Summary found online or at

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the table in the back of

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the room.

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If you are in person please

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complete the speaker So look it

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at the entrance of chambers and

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bring it to the front of

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the room.

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Council ambassadors are

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available near the entrance of

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chambers and can assist with

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questions and speaker slips.

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No further in-person testimony

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will be taken once the council

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begins virtual testimony and I

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would like to note that we did

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not receive any organized

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presentation for any of

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the items on this afternoon's

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agenda.

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Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

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right.

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Thank you.

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And as a reminder when you're

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speaking to an item on

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the agenda, please focus your

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attention on that agenda item

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and we will have an agenda

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public comment at the end of

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this afternoon session.

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So with that.

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Clerk please introduce item 601

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Thank you.

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Item six I wanted

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the consideration of

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appointments to the Commission

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on Police Practices.

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This item is not subject to

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the Mayor's veto.

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>> All right.

592
00:33:21,192 --> 00:33:22,590
Thank you.

593
00:33:22,590 --> 00:33:25,590
So prior to taking public

594
00:33:26,197 --> 00:33:26,997
comment per council policy zero

595
00:33:26,997 --> 00:33:30,597
dash 13 we will hear from each

596
00:33:31,535 --> 00:33:32,269
candidate and each council

597
00:33:32,269 --> 00:33:32,770
member will have an opportunity

598
00:33:32,770 --> 00:33:33,470
to ask questions.

599
00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:36,470
Following that the city clerk

600
00:33:38,376 --> 00:33:39,900
will review the process for

601
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:39,577
balloting prior to council

602
00:33:39,577 --> 00:33:40,780
members voting to fill

603
00:33:40,780 --> 00:33:42,780
the vacant seats.

604
00:33:43,914 --> 00:33:44,615
Candidates that are listed on

605
00:33:44,615 --> 00:33:45,315
the staff report for this item

606
00:33:45,315 --> 00:33:49,515
will be called up by the clerk

607
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:50,721
by clerk printed by name and

608
00:33:50,721 --> 00:33:51,455
who will also name which

609
00:33:51,455 --> 00:33:51,722
categories they are a candidate

610
00:33:51,722 --> 00:33:53,722
for.

611
00:33:56,126 --> 00:33:56,827
We will now allow each

612
00:33:56,827 --> 00:33:57,495
candidate to make a two minute

613
00:33:57,495 --> 00:33:57,895
presentation regarding their

614
00:33:57,895 --> 00:33:59,895
nomination.

615
00:34:01,699 --> 00:34:02,166
Please proceed.

616
00:34:02,166 --> 00:34:02,800
Thank you.

617
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,400
Council PRESIDENT We'll be

618
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,680
taking the candidates in

619
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,468
alphabetical order by first

620
00:34:08,171 --> 00:34:08,905
name and each candidate as

621
00:34:08,905 --> 00:34:09,607
mentioned will have two minutes

622
00:34:09,607 --> 00:34:10,308
which I will time And you can

623
00:34:10,308 --> 00:34:13,911
see on the timer there we will

624
00:34:13,911 --> 00:34:14,578
begin with candidate Arianna

625
00:34:14,578 --> 00:34:15,211
Dixit who has been nominated

626
00:34:15,211 --> 00:34:15,680
for the At-Large and Youth

627
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,680
category seats.

628
00:34:19,984 --> 00:34:20,718
Please come up to the podium.

629
00:34:20,718 --> 00:34:21,419
You will have two minutes And

630
00:34:21,419 --> 00:34:24,419
just for meeting management if

631
00:34:26,791 --> 00:34:27,525
I can have it Crystal Van

632
00:34:27,525 --> 00:34:29,925
Francisco Peralta Vargas Hemant

633
00:34:32,396 --> 00:34:32,830
Kumar The Comptroller.

634
00:34:32,830 --> 00:34:33,498
James Tyrrell.

635
00:34:33,498 --> 00:34:35,898
Roland Martin Diego's Munoz

636
00:34:39,103 --> 00:34:39,770
Kelly Freshener Michael Allen

637
00:34:39,770 --> 00:34:40,710
Scott Rodriguez and Rashida

638
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:42,710
Lamar.

639
00:34:43,941 --> 00:34:44,809
I mean it.

640
00:34:44,809 --> 00:34:45,676
Please all come up to the front

641
00:34:45,676 --> 00:34:49,547
row so that you can come up to

642
00:34:49,547 --> 00:34:49,847
the podium a little bit easier

643
00:34:49,847 --> 00:34:50,581
.

644
00:34:50,581 --> 00:34:51,480
>> You will have two minutes.

645
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:51,415
Please proceed.

646
00:34:51,415 --> 00:34:51,849
Thank you.

647
00:34:51,849 --> 00:34:53,849
Good evening.

648
00:34:56,453 --> 00:34:57,221
My name is r Index and I am a

649
00:34:57,221 --> 00:35:01,421
student at uc San Diego as well

650
00:35:01,926 --> 00:35:02,260
as the resident of District one

651
00:35:02,260 --> 00:35:03,930
.

652
00:35:03,930 --> 00:35:03,727
I'm here tonight to ask you all

653
00:35:03,727 --> 00:35:06,127
for your appointment to

654
00:35:07,965 --> 00:35:08,533
the youth seat as well as

655
00:35:08,533 --> 00:35:09,167
the At-Large seat for

656
00:35:09,167 --> 00:35:11,567
the Commissioner of Police

657
00:35:13,604 --> 00:35:14,472
practices Mainly because right

658
00:35:14,472 --> 00:35:15,172
now in the past couple of years

659
00:35:15,172 --> 00:35:15,873
I've been a part of various

660
00:35:15,873 --> 00:35:17,873
organizations supporting civil

661
00:35:19,477 --> 00:35:20,144
liberties and police

662
00:35:20,144 --> 00:35:20,979
accountability in San Diego.

663
00:35:20,979 --> 00:35:25,779
In the past I was on the Police

664
00:35:25,917 --> 00:35:26,584
Accountability Board for the uc

665
00:35:26,584 --> 00:35:27,318
San Diego Police Department

666
00:35:27,318 --> 00:35:27,986
where I used to perform many of

667
00:35:27,986 --> 00:35:30,986
the same kinds of activities

668
00:35:31,322 --> 00:35:32,560
that the commission does.

669
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:32,724
I mentioned intending to

670
00:35:32,724 --> 00:35:35,124
represent youth from diverse

671
00:35:37,495 --> 00:35:38,363
and marginalized populations

672
00:35:38,363 --> 00:35:39,970
from the city as best as I can

673
00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:42,697
because I am also the PRESIDENT

674
00:35:43,902 --> 00:35:44,536
And co-founder of the Student

675
00:35:44,536 --> 00:35:45,236
Civil Liberties Union that

676
00:35:45,236 --> 00:35:48,236
focuses work in District one,

677
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:49,474
three, eight and nine

678
00:35:49,474 --> 00:35:50,141
respectively.

679
00:35:50,141 --> 00:35:50,775
Furthermore, I have a proven

680
00:35:50,775 --> 00:35:53,175
track record with engaging

681
00:35:55,346 --> 00:35:56,470
youth in order to get them to

682
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:56,781
care about and also work with

683
00:35:56,781 --> 00:35:57,515
institutions such as the police

684
00:35:57,515 --> 00:36:00,515
and also understand hold police

685
00:36:01,586 --> 00:36:02,353
accountable.

686
00:36:02,353 --> 00:36:03,530
I've done so with youth groups,

687
00:36:03,530 --> 00:36:03,688
have done so with aapi groups

688
00:36:03,688 --> 00:36:04,355
through the Asian Pacific

689
00:36:04,355 --> 00:36:07,355
Theater Alliance in the city

690
00:36:07,358 --> 00:36:07,725
and through the sd api

691
00:36:07,725 --> 00:36:08,626
coalition.

692
00:36:08,626 --> 00:36:12,826
So I think right now in general

693
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:13,765
I'm unpacking and trying to get

694
00:36:13,765 --> 00:36:14,465
this nomination mainly because

695
00:36:14,465 --> 00:36:18,650
I'm intending to bring a sense

696
00:36:18,770 --> 00:36:19,471
of greater accountability to

697
00:36:19,471 --> 00:36:20,138
the police system but also to

698
00:36:20,138 --> 00:36:20,838
ensure that the institutions

699
00:36:20,838 --> 00:36:24,438
that we have are following in

700
00:36:25,310 --> 00:36:26,110
line with what voters wanted

701
00:36:26,110 --> 00:36:26,745
when they voted on Measure b.

702
00:36:26,745 --> 00:36:29,145
I have also received

703
00:36:31,182 --> 00:36:31,783
the nomination from

704
00:36:31,783 --> 00:36:32,517
the Commission of Police

705
00:36:32,517 --> 00:36:33,251
Practice itself to get the seat

706
00:36:33,251 --> 00:36:36,251
for the youth youth appointment

707
00:36:37,689 --> 00:36:38,256
itself and I would really

708
00:36:38,256 --> 00:36:38,924
appreciate all of your

709
00:36:38,924 --> 00:36:39,257
consideration for this seat

710
00:36:39,257 --> 00:36:41,257
tonight.

711
00:36:43,327 --> 00:36:43,628
Thank you so much for your time

712
00:36:43,628 --> 00:36:44,128
.

713
00:36:44,128 --> 00:36:44,863
>> Thank you.

714
00:36:44,863 --> 00:36:45,630
Krystal Van if you can please

715
00:36:45,630 --> 00:36:48,630
come up to the podium.

716
00:36:52,503 --> 00:36:53,104
Crystal Van.

717
00:36:53,104 --> 00:36:53,838
>> All right.

718
00:36:53,838 --> 00:36:54,172
Next we will go to Francisco

719
00:36:54,172 --> 00:36:56,172
Peralta.

720
00:36:58,743 --> 00:36:59,344
I declare council PRESIDENT

721
00:36:59,344 --> 00:37:01,344
Council member Francisco

722
00:37:04,916 --> 00:37:05,784
Peralta.

723
00:37:05,784 --> 00:37:06,384
Reason why I'm here today is

724
00:37:06,384 --> 00:37:06,918
because I'm seeking your

725
00:37:06,918 --> 00:37:07,519
support to serve at

726
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:07,886
the commission of police

727
00:37:07,886 --> 00:37:09,886
practices.

728
00:37:10,822 --> 00:37:15,220
I have lived in San Diego, my

729
00:37:16,862 --> 00:37:17,629
home for the past 26 years and

730
00:37:17,629 --> 00:37:18,329
I have seen my perspective.

731
00:37:18,329 --> 00:37:18,730
I lived in this report for

732
00:37:18,730 --> 00:37:20,730
seven years.

733
00:37:23,134 --> 00:37:23,602
I attended Memorial Academy

734
00:37:23,602 --> 00:37:24,302
District eight.

735
00:37:24,302 --> 00:37:27,902
I also attended San Diego high

736
00:37:29,508 --> 00:37:30,208
schools and your city college

737
00:37:30,208 --> 00:37:33,208
there earned a scholarship to

738
00:37:35,947 --> 00:37:36,648
attend uc San Diego where I

739
00:37:36,648 --> 00:37:37,316
landed and when I finished my

740
00:37:37,316 --> 00:37:37,949
bachelor's degree and later

741
00:37:37,949 --> 00:37:40,949
most importantly I had an

742
00:37:41,653 --> 00:37:42,387
opportunity and a privilege to

743
00:37:42,387 --> 00:37:43,288
work for the city of San Diego.

744
00:37:43,288 --> 00:37:47,488
I landed an opportunity to be a

745
00:37:48,226 --> 00:37:48,794
committed representative for

746
00:37:48,794 --> 00:37:49,528
Council District nine.

747
00:37:49,528 --> 00:37:52,528
I was representing City Heights

748
00:37:53,732 --> 00:37:54,433
neighborhoods and within

749
00:37:54,433 --> 00:37:55,132
anything I actually got to see

750
00:37:55,132 --> 00:37:55,769
a lot of the challenges that

751
00:37:55,769 --> 00:37:56,268
the city faces every day.

752
00:37:56,268 --> 00:37:58,268
It's complicated.

753
00:38:00,205 --> 00:38:00,905
I have a complicated job and

754
00:38:00,905 --> 00:38:01,640
you know, balancing the budget

755
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,541
every year is very complicated.

756
00:38:02,541 --> 00:38:06,144
So I got to see and I got an

757
00:38:06,144 --> 00:38:06,812
opportunity to see what

758
00:38:06,812 --> 00:38:07,345
the what that looks like in

759
00:38:07,345 --> 00:38:09,745
real life every day.

760
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:12,851
Like I mention at the beginning

761
00:38:12,851 --> 00:38:13,452
I hear seeking your support to

762
00:38:13,452 --> 00:38:15,852
serve in the commission.

763
00:38:17,790 --> 00:38:18,357
I think between my lived

764
00:38:18,357 --> 00:38:19,910
experience, between my

765
00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:21,491
professional experience I think

766
00:38:23,728 --> 00:38:24,196
I can be a good addition to

767
00:38:24,196 --> 00:38:25,300
the commission.

768
00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:25,564
>> So once again I hope I can

769
00:38:25,564 --> 00:38:26,310
get your support.

770
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:28,310
Thanks so much.

771
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:32,710
Thank you.

772
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:32,737
Thank you.

773
00:38:32,737 --> 00:38:33,405
We'll now hear from Canada

774
00:38:33,405 --> 00:38:35,973
Command Kamar de Trawler who

775
00:38:35,973 --> 00:38:36,675
has been nominated for

776
00:38:36,675 --> 00:38:37,242
the Council District two and

777
00:38:37,242 --> 00:38:37,943
the At-Large category.

778
00:38:37,943 --> 00:38:40,579
Please come up to the podium.

779
00:38:40,579 --> 00:38:41,113
We'll have two minutes.

780
00:38:41,113 --> 00:38:41,579
>> Please proceed.

781
00:38:41,579 --> 00:38:43,579
Good afternoon.

782
00:38:46,618 --> 00:38:47,486
Member of City Council.

783
00:38:47,486 --> 00:38:48,287
My name is Herman Strada and I

784
00:38:48,287 --> 00:38:51,887
need to serve on the commission

785
00:38:52,725 --> 00:38:53,559
on Police practice.

786
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:54,226
My role is to help and

787
00:38:54,226 --> 00:38:56,626
strengthen the trust between

788
00:38:58,797 --> 00:38:59,398
the community and the police

789
00:38:59,398 --> 00:38:59,965
department by providing

790
00:38:59,965 --> 00:39:01,965
independent oversight.

791
00:39:05,503 --> 00:39:06,710
Hungary's transparency and

792
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:06,438
listening to community

793
00:39:06,438 --> 00:39:08,438
concerns.

794
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:11,809
I lived in point Loma for 30

795
00:39:11,809 --> 00:39:12,544
years.

796
00:39:12,544 --> 00:39:15,544
I appreciate the opportunity to

797
00:39:16,916 --> 00:39:17,416
serve our city and I look

798
00:39:17,416 --> 00:39:18,117
forward to working

799
00:39:18,117 --> 00:39:18,449
collaboratively with the city

800
00:39:18,449 --> 00:39:20,449
council.

801
00:39:22,688 --> 00:39:23,389
The police department and our

802
00:39:23,389 --> 00:39:25,789
community to promote fairness,

803
00:39:26,892 --> 00:39:27,192
accountability and public

804
00:39:27,192 --> 00:39:29,192
trust.

805
00:39:34,233 --> 00:39:34,633
>> Thank you for your support.

806
00:39:34,633 --> 00:39:35,334
Thank you.

807
00:39:35,334 --> 00:39:36,350
We'll now hear from candidate

808
00:39:36,350 --> 00:39:39,350
James Tyrrell Overland who has

809
00:39:40,380 --> 00:39:40,673
been nominated for the low and

810
00:39:40,673 --> 00:39:41,373
moderate income category.

811
00:39:41,373 --> 00:39:44,243
Please come up to the podium.

812
00:39:44,243 --> 00:39:44,910
You'll have two minutes please.

813
00:39:44,910 --> 00:39:47,310
Thank you very much.

814
00:39:51,383 --> 00:39:52,500
My name is Jim Rowan and I've

815
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:52,485
been a resident of San Diego

816
00:39:52,485 --> 00:39:54,485
since 2006.

817
00:39:57,890 --> 00:39:57,790
I have lived in Paradise Hills

818
00:39:57,790 --> 00:40:01,390
in southeast San Diego for all

819
00:40:02,595 --> 00:40:03,229
20 of those years Work worked

820
00:40:03,229 --> 00:40:03,762
as a senior copywriter for

821
00:40:03,762 --> 00:40:05,762
various agencies and

822
00:40:09,602 --> 00:40:10,236
enterprises including the and

823
00:40:10,236 --> 00:40:11,700
of course We Are Indians.

824
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:11,837
And during that time I was also

825
00:40:11,837 --> 00:40:14,837
involved in art and writing

826
00:40:15,274 --> 00:40:15,974
communities and served on

827
00:40:15,974 --> 00:40:16,642
the board of directors for San

828
00:40:16,642 --> 00:40:17,343
Diego Writers Inc and was a

829
00:40:17,343 --> 00:40:20,813
member of the Golden Vina Art

830
00:40:20,813 --> 00:40:21,480
Collective and Barrio Logan up

831
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,880
until the pandemic shutdown.

832
00:40:26,485 --> 00:40:27,186
I consider myself to be service

833
00:40:27,186 --> 00:40:27,887
oriented, community minded and

834
00:40:27,887 --> 00:40:29,887
enthusiastic collaborator And

835
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:33,793
why now is because I now work

836
00:40:33,793 --> 00:40:34,493
for myself full time and have

837
00:40:34,493 --> 00:40:37,493
you know my daughter recently

838
00:40:38,998 --> 00:40:39,732
graduated college so I have

839
00:40:39,732 --> 00:40:40,199
the opportunity to honor a full

840
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:42,199
time commitment.

841
00:40:44,637 --> 00:40:45,370
I also want to mention I'm a

842
00:40:45,370 --> 00:40:46,105
veteran of the us Navy which is

843
00:40:46,105 --> 00:40:46,405
what brought me to San Diego in

844
00:40:46,405 --> 00:40:48,405
1986.

845
00:40:50,576 --> 00:40:51,277
I served on the uss my accord

846
00:40:51,277 --> 00:40:51,878
when I was stationed at Naval

847
00:40:51,878 --> 00:40:54,278
Station and 32nd Street.

848
00:40:56,115 --> 00:40:56,749
My connection goes back even

849
00:40:56,749 --> 00:40:57,416
further to the 60s when my

850
00:40:57,416 --> 00:41:01,160
father was in the Swift Boat

851
00:41:02,588 --> 00:41:03,289
training in North Island before

852
00:41:03,289 --> 00:41:03,956
shipping out to Vietnam And at

853
00:41:03,956 --> 00:41:06,956
the risk of oversharing all

854
00:41:08,493 --> 00:41:08,961
that I was conceived in

855
00:41:08,961 --> 00:41:09,661
Imperial Beach.

856
00:41:09,661 --> 00:41:13,261
But during that time, you know

857
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,200
in there I wander into too much

858
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:14,633
information.

859
00:41:14,633 --> 00:41:15,000
>> Thank you.

860
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,000
Thank you.

861
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:21,741
We'll now hear from candidate

862
00:41:21,741 --> 00:41:23,142
Martin Gallegos Munoz who has

863
00:41:23,142 --> 00:41:23,876
been nominated for the council

864
00:41:23,876 --> 00:41:24,243
District eight and the at large

865
00:41:24,243 --> 00:41:26,243
category.

866
00:41:28,748 --> 00:41:29,682
Please come up to the podium.

867
00:41:29,682 --> 00:41:33,282
Has just one thing There was

868
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,188
one news.

869
00:41:35,188 --> 00:41:35,922
Moving on we will hear from

870
00:41:35,922 --> 00:41:38,922
candidate Kelly Fresher who has

871
00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:40,560
been nominated for the at large

872
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,194
and youth category.

873
00:41:41,194 --> 00:41:41,794
Please come to the podium.

874
00:41:41,794 --> 00:41:44,194
We'll have two minutes.

875
00:41:45,431 --> 00:41:46,320
Thank you very much.

876
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:46,633
Good afternoon everyone.

877
00:41:46,633 --> 00:41:47,367
My name is Kelly Rusher.

878
00:41:47,367 --> 00:41:47,734
I am a graduate student at uc

879
00:41:47,734 --> 00:41:49,734
San Diego.

880
00:41:51,904 --> 00:41:52,572
I just finished my second year

881
00:41:52,572 --> 00:41:53,239
my first year going into my

882
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,239
second year and obtaining a

883
00:41:57,277 --> 00:41:57,977
master's in public policy with

884
00:41:57,977 --> 00:41:58,444
an emphasis in inequality and

885
00:41:58,444 --> 00:41:59,178
social justice.

886
00:41:59,178 --> 00:42:03,160
After I graduate I plan to work

887
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:03,616
with and for the police in

888
00:42:03,616 --> 00:42:04,284
creating initiatives and

889
00:42:04,284 --> 00:42:06,684
policies that emphasize both

890
00:42:09,489 --> 00:42:10,560
trust and communication by

891
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:10,723
promoting respect and

892
00:42:10,723 --> 00:42:11,357
transparency between police,

893
00:42:11,357 --> 00:42:13,757
both police and civilians.

894
00:42:15,228 --> 00:42:15,862
Before coming to San Diego I

895
00:42:15,862 --> 00:42:16,596
received my undergraduate

896
00:42:16,596 --> 00:42:20,196
degree from uc Santa Barbara in

897
00:42:21,234 --> 00:42:21,601
sociology with an emphasis in

898
00:42:21,601 --> 00:42:22,301
policing.

899
00:42:22,301 --> 00:42:25,301
My research there consisted of

900
00:42:26,673 --> 00:42:27,372
watching videos pre body cam

901
00:42:27,372 --> 00:42:27,941
videos of police interactions

902
00:42:27,941 --> 00:42:28,341
between civilians and

903
00:42:28,341 --> 00:42:30,341
the police.

904
00:42:33,446 --> 00:42:34,147
And understanding the ways that

905
00:42:34,147 --> 00:42:34,748
interactions happen creating a

906
00:42:34,748 --> 00:42:37,148
playbook of policies and

907
00:42:39,850 --> 00:42:39,752
tendencies that police have

908
00:42:39,752 --> 00:42:40,253
when dealing with different

909
00:42:40,253 --> 00:42:40,953
groups of people.

910
00:42:40,953 --> 00:42:43,953
And I also read multiple

911
00:42:46,225 --> 00:42:46,893
transcriptions dealing with

912
00:42:46,893 --> 00:42:47,594
interviews between civilians

913
00:42:47,594 --> 00:42:49,994
sending complaints to Seattle

914
00:42:51,665 --> 00:42:52,399
pd and the responding in

915
00:42:52,399 --> 00:42:53,990
subsequent interviews that took

916
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:56,990
place between the officers and

917
00:42:57,404 --> 00:42:58,170
those civilians.

918
00:42:58,170 --> 00:42:58,938
So I would love to have

919
00:42:58,938 --> 00:43:02,538
the position to be on this

920
00:43:03,476 --> 00:43:04,177
commission because although I

921
00:43:04,177 --> 00:43:04,945
have my research background I

922
00:43:04,945 --> 00:43:09,145
really want to be able to help

923
00:43:09,649 --> 00:43:10,283
the police and to be able to

924
00:43:10,283 --> 00:43:10,984
create a more trusting and

925
00:43:10,984 --> 00:43:12,984
respectful atmosphere between

926
00:43:15,388 --> 00:43:16,223
both police and civilians.

927
00:43:16,223 --> 00:43:16,924
And I think that being able to

928
00:43:16,924 --> 00:43:17,591
have this hands on experience

929
00:43:17,591 --> 00:43:17,857
would be very beneficial for

930
00:43:17,857 --> 00:43:19,857
me.

931
00:43:21,528 --> 00:43:22,940
I am also a resident of San

932
00:43:22,940 --> 00:43:22,796
Diego and I would love

933
00:43:22,796 --> 00:43:23,396
the opportunity to be able to

934
00:43:23,396 --> 00:43:25,396
participate more in

935
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:27,768
the proceedings of this city.

936
00:43:27,768 --> 00:43:28,134
>> So thank you very much.

937
00:43:28,134 --> 00:43:28,969
Thank you.

938
00:43:28,969 --> 00:43:32,569
We will now hear from Michael

939
00:43:34,241 --> 00:43:34,874
Allen Michael Allen has been

940
00:43:34,874 --> 00:43:35,574
nominated for the At-Large

941
00:43:35,574 --> 00:43:38,845
category and please come up to

942
00:43:38,845 --> 00:43:39,179
the podium We'll have two

943
00:43:39,179 --> 00:43:39,646
minutes.

944
00:43:39,646 --> 00:43:40,120
Good afternoon.

945
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:40,747
Thank you.

946
00:43:40,747 --> 00:43:44,347
Members of the city council for

947
00:43:44,951 --> 00:43:45,485
your time today as well as your

948
00:43:45,485 --> 00:43:45,886
consideration for my

949
00:43:45,886 --> 00:43:46,553
application.

950
00:43:46,553 --> 00:43:49,553
Over the past 20 years I've

951
00:43:50,891 --> 00:43:51,490
spent most of my time focused

952
00:43:51,490 --> 00:43:51,858
on building the current

953
00:43:51,858 --> 00:43:52,426
business.

954
00:43:52,426 --> 00:43:53,930
I've traveled all over

955
00:43:53,930 --> 00:43:56,930
the United States and built

956
00:43:56,163 --> 00:43:56,863
quite a few different places.

957
00:43:56,863 --> 00:44:00,463
And until I placed kind of

958
00:44:01,401 --> 00:44:02,135
roots here in San Diego, I

959
00:44:02,135 --> 00:44:02,735
didn't realize that the need to

960
00:44:02,735 --> 00:44:05,135
serve in the community.

961
00:44:07,874 --> 00:44:08,542
And since then I've actually

962
00:44:08,542 --> 00:44:09,242
started looking actively for

963
00:44:09,242 --> 00:44:09,977
ways to to reach out and give

964
00:44:09,977 --> 00:44:12,745
back Since I grew up so much

965
00:44:12,745 --> 00:44:13,480
before I really started to see

966
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:13,914
the impact on community members

967
00:44:13,914 --> 00:44:15,914
and so forth.

968
00:44:19,152 --> 00:44:19,853
So the reason for me asking to

969
00:44:19,853 --> 00:44:20,621
be on this advisory board is

970
00:44:20,621 --> 00:44:23,621
because I would certainly like

971
00:44:25,459 --> 00:44:26,920
the opportunity to be able to

972
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:26,793
listen and give thoughtful

973
00:44:26,793 --> 00:44:29,963
feedback and a way to be able

974
00:44:29,963 --> 00:44:30,664
to help to make a place for our

975
00:44:30,664 --> 00:44:30,964
our city safer and a better

976
00:44:30,964 --> 00:44:31,331
place.

977
00:44:31,331 --> 00:44:31,732
Thank you.

978
00:44:31,732 --> 00:44:33,732
Thank you.

979
00:44:36,369 --> 00:44:36,937
Next we have candidates Scott

980
00:44:36,937 --> 00:44:37,570
Rodriguez who has been

981
00:44:37,570 --> 00:44:38,205
nominated for the low and

982
00:44:38,205 --> 00:44:40,205
moderate income category.

983
00:44:41,574 --> 00:44:45,174
Please come up to the podium.

984
00:44:49,950 --> 00:44:50,650
Scott Rodriguez, we know we

985
00:44:50,650 --> 00:44:51,318
have candidate Rasheeda Lamar

986
00:44:51,318 --> 00:44:54,318
who has been nominated for

987
00:44:56,323 --> 00:44:56,790
the At-Large and low moderate

988
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:57,424
income category.

989
00:44:57,424 --> 00:44:57,758
Please begin your comments

990
00:44:57,758 --> 00:44:59,758
already.

991
00:45:01,862 --> 00:45:02,529
Many great day for city council

992
00:45:02,529 --> 00:45:02,830
and thanks so much for your

993
00:45:02,830 --> 00:45:04,830
time.

994
00:45:06,500 --> 00:45:07,167
My name is Rashid Ahmed and I

995
00:45:07,167 --> 00:45:07,835
am submitting my interest in

996
00:45:07,835 --> 00:45:08,335
serving on the Commission on

997
00:45:08,335 --> 00:45:10,335
Police Practices.

998
00:45:12,339 --> 00:45:15,939
I'm a lifelong resident of San

999
00:45:16,410 --> 00:45:17,100
Diego fourth District and I'm

1000
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:17,711
the founder of the First

1001
00:45:17,711 --> 00:45:18,212
Community Empowerment Theater

1002
00:45:18,212 --> 00:45:20,212
in District four.

1003
00:45:21,749 --> 00:45:22,483
I've dedicated my entire life

1004
00:45:22,483 --> 00:45:24,483
to strengthening relationships,

1005
00:45:27,210 --> 00:45:27,754
restoring trust and creating

1006
00:45:27,754 --> 00:45:28,454
safer, healthier communities.

1007
00:45:28,454 --> 00:45:32,540
Through my work I've built up

1008
00:45:32,726 --> 00:45:33,360
long standing trusted

1009
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,360
relationships and created

1010
00:45:37,497 --> 00:45:38,165
safer, healthier communities

1011
00:45:38,165 --> 00:45:40,565
with residents and community

1012
00:45:43,437 --> 00:45:44,138
leaders as well as service

1013
00:45:44,138 --> 00:45:44,838
providers and law enforcement

1014
00:45:44,838 --> 00:45:47,838
which allows me to understand

1015
00:45:48,342 --> 00:45:48,909
the perspectives and concerns

1016
00:45:48,909 --> 00:45:49,610
of all those involved.

1017
00:45:49,610 --> 00:45:52,100
I'm licensed in restorative

1018
00:45:54,281 --> 00:45:54,948
practices as a practitioner and

1019
00:45:54,948 --> 00:45:57,348
trainer that specializes in

1020
00:45:59,860 --> 00:45:59,787
conflict resolution,

1021
00:45:59,787 --> 00:46:00,121
de-escalation and restorative

1022
00:46:00,121 --> 00:46:02,121
dialogs.

1023
00:46:04,224 --> 00:46:04,992
My work focuses on helping

1024
00:46:04,992 --> 00:46:07,392
individuals and individuals and

1025
00:46:09,263 --> 00:46:09,997
institutions navigate difficult

1026
00:46:09,997 --> 00:46:11,997
situations with accountability,

1027
00:46:14,601 --> 00:46:14,901
empathy and practical solutions

1028
00:46:14,901 --> 00:46:15,669
.

1029
00:46:15,669 --> 00:46:16,437
I have also partnered with law

1030
00:46:16,437 --> 00:46:20,370
enforcement in the past to help

1031
00:46:20,410 --> 00:46:20,741
bridge gaps between officers

1032
00:46:20,741 --> 00:46:21,410
and the communities that they

1033
00:46:21,410 --> 00:46:23,410
serve.

1034
00:46:25,646 --> 00:46:26,347
Demonstrating that meaningful

1035
00:46:26,347 --> 00:46:28,747
collaboration is possible when

1036
00:46:30,617 --> 00:46:31,318
people are willing to listen

1037
00:46:31,318 --> 00:46:32,119
and learn from one another.

1038
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:35,623
If I'm selected I will bring

1039
00:46:35,623 --> 00:46:36,223
that community centered

1040
00:46:36,223 --> 00:46:36,824
perspective grounded in

1041
00:46:36,824 --> 00:46:38,824
fairness, integrity and

1042
00:46:41,620 --> 00:46:41,796
restorative principles.

1043
00:46:41,796 --> 00:46:42,430
I believe every incident

1044
00:46:42,430 --> 00:46:44,830
presents an opportunity to

1045
00:46:46,867 --> 00:46:47,535
evaluate not only what occurred

1046
00:46:47,535 --> 00:46:50,535
but also whether a situation

1047
00:46:51,806 --> 00:46:52,540
could have been de-escalated,

1048
00:46:52,540 --> 00:46:53,174
handled differently or resolved

1049
00:46:53,174 --> 00:46:56,174
in a way that strengthens

1050
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:57,545
public trust while supporting

1051
00:46:57,545 --> 00:46:58,110
officer safety and

1052
00:46:58,110 --> 00:46:58,446
accountability.

1053
00:46:58,446 --> 00:47:00,446
>> Thank you.

1054
00:47:02,215 --> 00:47:02,983
Thank you.

1055
00:47:02,983 --> 00:47:06,583
Next we'll go to our virtual

1056
00:47:07,421 --> 00:47:07,755
participant of Emmanuel

1057
00:47:07,755 --> 00:47:08,556
Barrera.

1058
00:47:08,556 --> 00:47:12,260
If you can please unmute online

1059
00:47:12,260 --> 00:47:12,794
and you'll have two minutes

1060
00:47:12,794 --> 00:47:13,127
actually if you can hold on one

1061
00:47:13,127 --> 00:47:15,127
second.

1062
00:47:17,164 --> 00:47:17,765
Can we get the timer up so you

1063
00:47:17,765 --> 00:47:18,599
can see his two minutes?

1064
00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:21,435
We're going to put a timer up

1065
00:47:21,435 --> 00:47:22,436
on the screen so that you can

1066
00:47:22,436 --> 00:47:25,473
see your timer and manage your

1067
00:47:25,473 --> 00:47:26,400
time of two minutes.

1068
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,400
>> Please proceed.

1069
00:47:30,344 --> 00:47:31,780
Thank you.

1070
00:47:31,780 --> 00:47:34,678
Thank you to the City Council

1071
00:47:35,830 --> 00:47:35,449
for allowing me to join

1072
00:47:35,449 --> 00:47:36,184
virtually.

1073
00:47:36,184 --> 00:47:36,918
I apologize for not being there

1074
00:47:36,918 --> 00:47:41,118
in person but I've had a few

1075
00:47:42,490 --> 00:47:43,257
things come up this morning but

1076
00:47:43,257 --> 00:47:43,558
many of you MAY know where I

1077
00:47:43,558 --> 00:47:44,325
live.

1078
00:47:44,325 --> 00:47:44,959
I'm going to go from seven

1079
00:47:44,959 --> 00:47:47,359
years entirely in District

1080
00:47:48,695 --> 00:47:49,430
three and while I and not

1081
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:50,131
originally from here and people

1082
00:47:50,131 --> 00:47:53,468
that made it my adopted home I

1083
00:47:53,468 --> 00:47:54,680
currently work in marketing and

1084
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:54,702
analytics but I did my

1085
00:47:54,702 --> 00:47:57,102
undergrad at University of

1086
00:47:58,171 --> 00:47:58,673
California Santa Cruz and I did

1087
00:47:58,673 --> 00:47:59,240
my grad school at

1088
00:47:59,240 --> 00:47:59,607
the University of San

1089
00:47:59,607 --> 00:48:01,607
Francisco.

1090
00:48:03,444 --> 00:48:04,145
Both schools really put a lot

1091
00:48:04,145 --> 00:48:07,145
of emphasis on social justice

1092
00:48:08,383 --> 00:48:08,917
and community service and just

1093
00:48:08,917 --> 00:48:09,918
trying to give back.

1094
00:48:09,918 --> 00:48:13,154
So I think what I would like to

1095
00:48:13,154 --> 00:48:13,821
bring to this commission is

1096
00:48:13,821 --> 00:48:17,421
exactly that I love it here.

1097
00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:19,327
I genuinely think of this place

1098
00:48:19,327 --> 00:48:20,195
as my home to my adopted home

1099
00:48:20,195 --> 00:48:23,698
and I would really like to

1100
00:48:23,698 --> 00:48:24,399
strengthen bring the talents I

1101
00:48:24,399 --> 00:48:27,702
believe I do have which mostly

1102
00:48:27,702 --> 00:48:30,702
are being objective thinking to

1103
00:48:32,706 --> 00:48:33,374
leveraging my background to

1104
00:48:33,374 --> 00:48:36,974
kind of bring that into this

1105
00:48:37,780 --> 00:48:37,745
commission and provide a fair

1106
00:48:37,745 --> 00:48:38,446
and unbiased view into their

1107
00:48:38,446 --> 00:48:40,846
view between the interactions

1108
00:48:42,616 --> 00:48:43,117
between the community and

1109
00:48:43,117 --> 00:48:45,117
the senior people.

1110
00:48:47,722 --> 00:48:48,323
I really believe in the core of

1111
00:48:48,323 --> 00:48:49,240
this mission of the core

1112
00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:52,240
mission of this commission and

1113
00:48:53,828 --> 00:48:54,529
I have believed so since I've

1114
00:48:54,529 --> 00:48:55,463
first voted on it and arrived

1115
00:48:55,463 --> 00:48:57,398
here as a new resident And I

1116
00:48:57,398 --> 00:48:57,966
thought I would like to humbly

1117
00:48:57,966 --> 00:49:00,366
be considered for this

1118
00:49:01,569 --> 00:49:02,336
commission and I welcome any

1119
00:49:02,336 --> 00:49:05,936
and all questions here any any

1120
00:49:06,508 --> 00:49:07,800
other points But thank you.

1121
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:07,675
>> Thank you.

1122
00:49:07,675 --> 00:49:09,675
That does conclude

1123
00:49:11,279 --> 00:49:11,946
the presentations from

1124
00:49:11,946 --> 00:49:12,314
the nominees for this seat.

1125
00:49:12,314 --> 00:49:13,480
All right.

1126
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,883
Thank you, City Clerk And you

1127
00:49:15,883 --> 00:49:19,483
did verify that the three I

1128
00:49:20,622 --> 00:49:21,220
think that were absent were not

1129
00:49:21,220 --> 00:49:21,589
online.

1130
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:21,890
They are not on.

1131
00:49:21,890 --> 00:49:22,591
Okay.

1132
00:49:22,591 --> 00:49:25,260
Thank you for confirming that.

1133
00:49:25,260 --> 00:49:25,894
So now we'll go to the council

1134
00:49:25,894 --> 00:49:28,294
members for any questions.

1135
00:49:28,964 --> 00:49:29,731
Please note per council policy

1136
00:49:29,731 --> 00:49:30,531
zero Dash 13 This is only an

1137
00:49:30,531 --> 00:49:33,531
opportunity to ask questions of

1138
00:49:34,350 --> 00:49:34,803
the candidates.

1139
00:49:34,803 --> 00:49:37,803
Any comments will be taken

1140
00:49:39,307 --> 00:49:39,941
prior to balloting So Council

1141
00:49:39,941 --> 00:49:40,642
member Yvonne Wolpert any

1142
00:49:40,642 --> 00:49:40,909
questions for the candidates?

1143
00:49:40,909 --> 00:49:41,276
Yes.

1144
00:49:41,276 --> 00:49:43,276
Thank you.

1145
00:49:43,578 --> 00:49:44,346
I have a question for every

1146
00:49:44,346 --> 00:49:47,346
candidate to answer the same

1147
00:49:48,415 --> 00:49:49,170
question.

1148
00:49:49,170 --> 00:49:49,617
When we enacted

1149
00:49:49,617 --> 00:49:50,218
the implementing law for

1150
00:49:50,218 --> 00:49:52,618
the Commission on Priest

1151
00:49:53,922 --> 00:49:54,623
Practices Section 26.11 o 64

1152
00:49:54,623 --> 00:49:57,230
states, the commissioners need

1153
00:49:58,794 --> 00:49:59,493
to have the ability to act

1154
00:49:59,493 --> 00:50:00,195
impartially and independently

1155
00:50:00,195 --> 00:50:03,398
and we will be appointing you

1156
00:50:03,398 --> 00:50:04,660
to be a fact finders and

1157
00:50:04,660 --> 00:50:04,766
adjudicate cases, adjudicate

1158
00:50:04,766 --> 00:50:07,166
complaints against the police,

1159
00:50:08,469 --> 00:50:09,136
adjudicate complaints police

1160
00:50:09,136 --> 00:50:09,771
might have against civilians

1161
00:50:09,771 --> 00:50:13,371
And so you'll be acting in

1162
00:50:13,808 --> 00:50:14,543
the role of a judge And we all

1163
00:50:14,543 --> 00:50:15,277
have experience in the role but

1164
00:50:15,277 --> 00:50:17,913
we have to come in there with a

1165
00:50:17,913 --> 00:50:18,847
neutral fact finding ability.

1166
00:50:18,847 --> 00:50:19,514
So I'd like to know from each

1167
00:50:19,514 --> 00:50:22,651
person how you plan to be

1168
00:50:22,651 --> 00:50:23,218
neutral and unbiased when each

1169
00:50:23,218 --> 00:50:25,618
case comes to you.

1170
00:50:27,356 --> 00:50:27,990
So why don't we start with you

1171
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:28,724
Francisco That I remember

1172
00:50:28,724 --> 00:50:32,127
correctly and then just kind of

1173
00:50:32,127 --> 00:50:35,127
go down the line being

1174
00:50:36,465 --> 00:50:37,165
impartial I would say that it's

1175
00:50:37,165 --> 00:50:37,732
the first step to build that

1176
00:50:37,732 --> 00:50:39,732
bridge between public

1177
00:50:41,469 --> 00:50:41,770
institutions and the community

1178
00:50:41,770 --> 00:50:42,471
.

1179
00:50:42,471 --> 00:50:44,871
So there's there's absolutely

1180
00:50:46,975 --> 00:50:47,743
no other way around this Just

1181
00:50:47,743 --> 00:50:51,513
we have to listen to the facts

1182
00:50:51,513 --> 00:50:52,381
And like you mentioned, we're

1183
00:50:52,381 --> 00:50:53,480
going to be a judge to be able

1184
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,817
to make decisions, you know,

1185
00:50:55,817 --> 00:50:56,518
for the betterment of

1186
00:50:56,518 --> 00:50:57,219
the community as a whole, not

1187
00:50:57,219 --> 00:50:59,619
for an individual perspective.

1188
00:51:00,989 --> 00:51:01,590
So I think that's that's

1189
00:51:01,590 --> 00:51:02,324
the only way about it.

1190
00:51:02,324 --> 00:51:05,324
And my apologies for appointing

1191
00:51:10,532 --> 00:51:11,567
you man.

1192
00:51:11,567 --> 00:51:15,700
So I was serving as a juror a

1193
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:15,937
couple times and I've been

1194
00:51:15,937 --> 00:51:16,738
through there So I have to be

1195
00:51:16,738 --> 00:51:20,338
honest and look at the fact

1196
00:51:20,609 --> 00:51:21,243
whatever the fact is I have to

1197
00:51:21,243 --> 00:51:22,911
go according to the fact I

1198
00:51:22,911 --> 00:51:25,911
don't look at anything else.

1199
00:51:33,322 --> 00:51:33,922
>> Thank you.

1200
00:51:33,922 --> 00:51:34,556
>> Grady Avila License

1201
00:51:34,556 --> 00:51:36,556
Restorative practitioner.

1202
00:51:38,293 --> 00:51:38,994
My my job daily is conflict

1203
00:51:38,994 --> 00:51:41,394
resolution and whether that's

1204
00:51:43,131 --> 00:51:43,731
in the jail setting, in

1205
00:51:43,731 --> 00:51:44,366
the school setting or in

1206
00:51:44,366 --> 00:51:46,766
the community setting and

1207
00:51:47,536 --> 00:51:48,304
the only way to get to a

1208
00:51:48,304 --> 00:51:51,904
resolution is to only speak and

1209
00:51:52,700 --> 00:51:52,675
deal with facts.

1210
00:51:52,675 --> 00:51:53,241
So I'm a fact finder.

1211
00:51:53,241 --> 00:51:55,241
I'm an investigator.

1212
00:51:56,110 --> 00:51:59,611
I'm all of those things But

1213
00:52:00,649 --> 00:52:02,649
mainly I'm impartial.

1214
00:52:05,621 --> 00:52:06,755
Good afternoon.

1215
00:52:06,755 --> 00:52:10,659
So in my current job I'm a

1216
00:52:10,659 --> 00:52:11,427
director for a restaurant group

1217
00:52:11,427 --> 00:52:12,494
and I spot I find a lot of

1218
00:52:12,494 --> 00:52:15,998
times I have to go in and help

1219
00:52:15,998 --> 00:52:16,699
deal with some issues to to

1220
00:52:16,699 --> 00:52:19,801
listen to the staff And a lot

1221
00:52:19,801 --> 00:52:20,502
of times I have to teach my

1222
00:52:20,502 --> 00:52:21,170
managers how to do it.

1223
00:52:21,170 --> 00:52:21,871
And the most important thing

1224
00:52:21,871 --> 00:52:25,408
I've learned over the years is

1225
00:52:25,408 --> 00:52:26,108
listen first get all the facts.

1226
00:52:26,108 --> 00:52:28,508
Don't start making conclusions

1227
00:52:29,712 --> 00:52:30,346
until you've actually listened

1228
00:52:30,346 --> 00:52:33,346
to everything and be fair.

1229
00:52:34,490 --> 00:52:34,684
And then at that point when

1230
00:52:34,684 --> 00:52:35,384
you're done then you make

1231
00:52:35,384 --> 00:52:36,850
what's best for well for then

1232
00:52:36,850 --> 00:52:39,421
it was the company and what's

1233
00:52:39,421 --> 00:52:40,122
right for the for the I'm sorry

1234
00:52:40,122 --> 00:52:40,723
for the company as well as for

1235
00:52:40,723 --> 00:52:43,123
the employee and follow

1236
00:52:46,195 --> 00:52:47,230
the rules So thank you.

1237
00:52:47,230 --> 00:52:50,830
>> Okay So for right now most

1238
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:51,767
of my time is spent doing

1239
00:52:51,767 --> 00:52:54,767
research and so every single

1240
00:52:55,300 --> 00:52:55,871
thing that I'm able to look at

1241
00:52:55,871 --> 00:52:56,605
I have to find it, figure out

1242
00:52:56,605 --> 00:53:00,205
the evidence behind it and find

1243
00:53:00,743 --> 00:53:01,443
every possible aspect that

1244
00:53:01,443 --> 00:53:01,710
could counter what I'm looking

1245
00:53:01,710 --> 00:53:02,345
at.

1246
00:53:02,345 --> 00:53:03,450
So I think that it's very

1247
00:53:03,450 --> 00:53:05,445
important to spread everything

1248
00:53:05,915 --> 00:53:06,515
out, look at everything and

1249
00:53:06,515 --> 00:53:07,216
take into account every

1250
00:53:07,216 --> 00:53:10,216
perspective that could have a

1251
00:53:10,786 --> 00:53:11,387
point and could have a

1252
00:53:11,387 --> 00:53:12,540
possibility to influence

1253
00:53:12,540 --> 00:53:15,391
the facts that were given um

1254
00:53:15,391 --> 00:53:16,580
with my research experience I

1255
00:53:16,580 --> 00:53:16,759
spent an extensive amount of

1256
00:53:16,759 --> 00:53:19,962
time doing just that and just

1257
00:53:19,962 --> 00:53:20,663
looking at the words on

1258
00:53:20,663 --> 00:53:21,397
the paper pay no attention to

1259
00:53:21,397 --> 00:53:24,667
tonality and then being able to

1260
00:53:24,667 --> 00:53:25,234
take something like a

1261
00:53:25,234 --> 00:53:25,901
transcript or an audio

1262
00:53:25,901 --> 00:53:28,901
transcript and then use each

1263
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:30,740
way that each side was able to

1264
00:53:30,740 --> 00:53:31,407
communicate their part, take

1265
00:53:31,407 --> 00:53:34,644
into account all of that and

1266
00:53:34,644 --> 00:53:35,411
then make a decision.

1267
00:53:35,411 --> 00:53:36,112
I think it's very important to

1268
00:53:36,112 --> 00:53:39,115
look at the bigger picture and

1269
00:53:39,115 --> 00:53:39,749
then take each part of that

1270
00:53:39,749 --> 00:53:40,450
bigger picture and create

1271
00:53:40,450 --> 00:53:41,170
smaller pictures and use that

1272
00:53:41,170 --> 00:53:43,752
to be as impartial and

1273
00:53:43,752 --> 00:53:46,152
transparent as possible when

1274
00:53:48,558 --> 00:53:51,558
making decisions such as this.

1275
00:53:53,629 --> 00:53:54,397
Thank you for the question.

1276
00:53:54,397 --> 00:53:55,198
Before moving to San Diego I

1277
00:53:55,198 --> 00:53:58,198
was a English teacher and

1278
00:53:58,333 --> 00:53:59,350
the backbone of that is

1279
00:53:59,350 --> 00:53:59,636
critical thinking and any kind

1280
00:53:59,636 --> 00:54:02,360
of writing assignment or

1281
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,641
analysis that we would do you

1282
00:54:04,641 --> 00:54:08,311
have to be have a clear eyed

1283
00:54:08,311 --> 00:54:08,911
look at what the text is, what

1284
00:54:08,911 --> 00:54:09,612
the problem is, what

1285
00:54:09,612 --> 00:54:12,548
the circumstances And in order

1286
00:54:12,548 --> 00:54:13,215
to bring an analysis that's

1287
00:54:13,215 --> 00:54:13,849
free of bias and free of

1288
00:54:13,849 --> 00:54:16,249
prejudice put those facts

1289
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:17,754
together before you can reach a

1290
00:54:17,754 --> 00:54:20,754
conclusion about how you think

1291
00:54:21,424 --> 00:54:21,857
and feel and understand

1292
00:54:21,857 --> 00:54:22,491
the material.

1293
00:54:22,491 --> 00:54:26,910
And I see that being no

1294
00:54:27,230 --> 00:54:28,640
different in this case.

1295
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:28,731
I wish it weren't that way on

1296
00:54:28,731 --> 00:54:29,265
social media more but that's

1297
00:54:29,265 --> 00:54:31,601
not the way it goes.

1298
00:54:31,601 --> 00:54:33,601
Thank you.

1299
00:54:38,641 --> 00:54:38,974
And then sorry.

1300
00:54:38,974 --> 00:54:40,974
Hello.

1301
00:54:43,279 --> 00:54:44,120
To me I think that in the past

1302
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:44,747
of Served on the Police

1303
00:54:44,747 --> 00:54:47,747
Accountability Board for uc San

1304
00:54:48,651 --> 00:54:49,352
Diego Police Department so

1305
00:54:49,352 --> 00:54:49,886
that's something that is that

1306
00:54:49,886 --> 00:54:51,886
comes naturally with

1307
00:54:53,689 --> 00:54:54,390
the position Furthermore for a

1308
00:54:54,390 --> 00:54:57,990
big part of working in in

1309
00:54:58,260 --> 00:54:58,962
research and my own like major

1310
00:54:58,962 --> 00:55:02,562
at uc San Diego which is

1311
00:55:03,299 --> 00:55:03,933
cognitive science is understand

1312
00:55:03,933 --> 00:55:04,667
what the facts are before

1313
00:55:04,667 --> 00:55:07,804
making a conclusion You know we

1314
00:55:07,804 --> 00:55:08,571
can have a hypothesis we can

1315
00:55:08,571 --> 00:55:09,271
have an idea of like where

1316
00:55:09,271 --> 00:55:09,939
we're going but we need to

1317
00:55:09,939 --> 00:55:12,339
clearly understand where all

1318
00:55:13,443 --> 00:55:14,144
the facts are, find out what

1319
00:55:14,144 --> 00:55:17,744
points go for and against an

1320
00:55:18,130 --> 00:55:18,514
argument in order to finally

1321
00:55:18,514 --> 00:55:19,349
make that case.

1322
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:20,490
So I think that to me fact

1323
00:55:20,490 --> 00:55:22,449
finding comes very naturally

1324
00:55:23,252 --> 00:55:23,987
also understanding where all

1325
00:55:23,987 --> 00:55:24,821
these facts are coming from and

1326
00:55:24,821 --> 00:55:27,230
making sure we have a clear cut

1327
00:55:27,230 --> 00:55:27,657
procedure for investigating

1328
00:55:27,657 --> 00:55:28,391
every single complaint and

1329
00:55:28,391 --> 00:55:31,991
doing it fairly because we want

1330
00:55:32,262 --> 00:55:32,929
to increase the trust in these

1331
00:55:32,929 --> 00:55:33,663
systems rather than diminish

1332
00:55:33,663 --> 00:55:35,999
them through manners which like

1333
00:55:35,999 --> 00:55:36,966
cut corners in some way.

1334
00:55:36,966 --> 00:55:40,566
>> That's that's how I see it.

1335
00:55:43,540 --> 00:55:44,400
Thank you Emmanuel Marin if you

1336
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,400
can please unmute.

1337
00:55:46,142 --> 00:55:46,776
Thank you.

1338
00:55:46,776 --> 00:55:47,477
I appreciate the question.

1339
00:55:47,477 --> 00:55:51,810
I would say that I would like

1340
00:55:51,810 --> 00:55:51,814
to point to both my

1341
00:55:51,814 --> 00:55:52,482
professional background as well

1342
00:55:52,482 --> 00:55:54,882
as my scholastic background.

1343
00:55:55,652 --> 00:55:55,952
Personally I work with a ton of

1344
00:55:55,952 --> 00:55:56,820
data.

1345
00:55:56,820 --> 00:56:00,323
I don't really go in when I

1346
00:56:00,323 --> 00:56:01,570
started doing analysis I don't

1347
00:56:01,570 --> 00:56:01,758
with any preconceived notion of

1348
00:56:01,758 --> 00:56:05,494
what the facts or in this case

1349
00:56:05,494 --> 00:56:06,262
the numbers kind of tell me

1350
00:56:06,262 --> 00:56:07,430
the story and I go from there.

1351
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:10,366
But I do think I have a pretty

1352
00:56:10,366 --> 00:56:11,670
strong grasp on what's kind of

1353
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:14,670
removing bias and just looking

1354
00:56:14,905 --> 00:56:15,605
at things objectively as well

1355
00:56:15,605 --> 00:56:16,406
As I did point out, my

1356
00:56:16,406 --> 00:56:19,141
background as a lawyer studies

1357
00:56:19,141 --> 00:56:21,541
major for undergrad just

1358
00:56:24,314 --> 00:56:24,915
because I think that really

1359
00:56:24,915 --> 00:56:25,581
that combined with my

1360
00:56:25,581 --> 00:56:27,581
psychology undergrad really

1361
00:56:28,818 --> 00:56:29,519
gave me a baseline for looking

1362
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:30,287
at things through a set of

1363
00:56:30,287 --> 00:56:33,287
rules and being objective even

1364
00:56:34,190 --> 00:56:34,757
if things feel like they should

1365
00:56:34,757 --> 00:56:35,124
go certain layer if it

1366
00:56:35,124 --> 00:56:37,124
shouldn't.

1367
00:56:38,428 --> 00:56:39,129
I'd like to think that I that

1368
00:56:39,129 --> 00:56:40,664
training has provided a solid

1369
00:56:40,664 --> 00:56:44,264
blueprint for me and I'm pretty

1370
00:56:50,173 --> 00:56:50,476
pretty strong without Thank you

1371
00:56:50,476 --> 00:56:52,476
.

1372
00:56:55,845 --> 00:56:56,580
Is it okay?

1373
00:56:56,580 --> 00:56:57,280
I don't see any other council

1374
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:57,681
members on the Light Council.

1375
00:56:57,681 --> 00:56:59,681
My Woodbury.

1376
00:57:00,317 --> 00:57:01,180
Thank you Council PRESIDENT I

1377
00:57:01,180 --> 00:57:04,618
just have one question for MR.

1378
00:57:05,455 --> 00:57:06,189
Pereira who is on the line.

1379
00:57:06,189 --> 00:57:06,523
MR. Barry, you're a constituent

1380
00:57:06,523 --> 00:57:08,523
of mine.

1381
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:09,960
Congratulations on getting

1382
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:10,561
the recommendation of

1383
00:57:10,561 --> 00:57:10,927
the Commission on Police

1384
00:57:10,927 --> 00:57:12,927
Practices.

1385
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:14,970
You did at one point reach out

1386
00:57:14,970 --> 00:57:17,970
to my office with concerns

1387
00:57:17,534 --> 00:57:20,534
about the Floc contract and

1388
00:57:22,339 --> 00:57:23,139
automated license plate readers

1389
00:57:23,139 --> 00:57:23,841
,you know and that's not

1390
00:57:23,841 --> 00:57:26,241
inconsistent with that ability

1391
00:57:27,144 --> 00:57:27,578
to evaluate a police matter

1392
00:57:27,578 --> 00:57:28,412
independently.

1393
00:57:28,412 --> 00:57:32,683
But I did want to at least ask

1394
00:57:32,683 --> 00:57:33,350
you the question should a case

1395
00:57:33,350 --> 00:57:36,950
come in front of you that

1396
00:57:37,688 --> 00:57:38,222
involves the use of Alpers in a

1397
00:57:38,222 --> 00:57:40,222
policing situation?

1398
00:57:41,958 --> 00:57:45,558
Would you be able to fairly

1399
00:57:46,196 --> 00:57:49,196
assess the facts and render

1400
00:57:51,768 --> 00:57:52,369
judgment based on those facts?

1401
00:57:52,369 --> 00:57:52,735
Excuse me Councilmember

1402
00:57:52,735 --> 00:57:54,735
Woodburn.

1403
00:57:56,730 --> 00:57:56,373
I appreciate the question as

1404
00:57:56,373 --> 00:57:57,240
well.

1405
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,644
I think so I my personal

1406
00:58:00,644 --> 00:58:01,345
opinion on whether cameras

1407
00:58:01,345 --> 00:58:02,212
should be or should or should

1408
00:58:02,212 --> 00:58:05,615
not be in place would not

1409
00:58:05,615 --> 00:58:06,317
interfere with my working on a

1410
00:58:06,317 --> 00:58:06,616
case in which they are in

1411
00:58:06,616 --> 00:58:08,616
place.

1412
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:10,788
They're here that are currently

1413
00:58:10,788 --> 00:58:14,988
being used by the city And I

1414
00:58:15,426 --> 00:58:16,193
don't see any reason to let

1415
00:58:16,193 --> 00:58:16,660
that cloud my judgment on a

1416
00:58:16,660 --> 00:58:18,660
particular case.

1417
00:58:19,896 --> 00:58:20,498
Thank you, MR. Brewer Thank

1418
00:58:20,498 --> 00:58:20,931
you, Council PRESIDENT.

1419
00:58:20,931 --> 00:58:22,931
>> All right.

1420
00:58:24,368 --> 00:58:25,135
Thank you for that question.

1421
00:58:25,135 --> 00:58:28,735
Again, I don't see any movement

1422
00:58:29,673 --> 00:58:30,341
from my colleagues so the clerk

1423
00:58:30,341 --> 00:58:33,844
will now yes, the clerk on

1424
00:58:33,844 --> 00:58:34,512
the I'll take public testimony

1425
00:58:34,512 --> 00:58:37,381
prior to the council members

1426
00:58:37,381 --> 00:58:38,148
comments and balloting.

1427
00:58:38,148 --> 00:58:41,148
So with that clerk please

1428
00:58:43,540 --> 00:58:43,520
proceed with public comment.

1429
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:44,155
>> Thank you.

1430
00:58:44,155 --> 00:58:46,555
Council PRESIDENT We have

1431
00:58:46,656 --> 00:58:49,656
speakers Armando Flores if you

1432
00:58:51,762 --> 00:58:52,363
can please come forward after

1433
00:58:52,363 --> 00:58:53,300
that will be Maximillian

1434
00:58:53,300 --> 00:58:55,430
Schmidt allegedly Audra and

1435
00:58:56,634 --> 00:58:57,434
Yusef Miller.

1436
00:58:57,434 --> 00:59:00,434
Armando you'll have one minute.

1437
00:59:01,272 --> 00:59:01,738
Please proceed.

1438
00:59:01,738 --> 00:59:02,440
Good afternoon.

1439
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:03,107
Council PRESIDENT And members

1440
00:59:03,107 --> 00:59:06,707
of the Council I am Armando

1441
00:59:07,278 --> 00:59:07,978
Flores, Vice Chair of Strategic

1442
00:59:07,978 --> 00:59:08,646
Planning for the Commission on

1443
00:59:08,646 --> 00:59:11,460
Police Practices Speaking on

1444
00:59:12,149 --> 00:59:12,883
behalf of Sherbini it is in

1445
00:59:12,883 --> 00:59:13,584
the full Commission with thanks

1446
00:59:13,584 --> 00:59:15,720
to former Chair Rodriguez who

1447
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,487
led this effort along with Doug

1448
00:59:16,487 --> 00:59:17,155
Case who ran which was

1449
00:59:17,155 --> 00:59:20,155
the chair of the recruitment

1450
00:59:20,992 --> 00:59:21,658
committee for the first time

1451
00:59:21,658 --> 00:59:22,293
the cbp carried out its own

1452
00:59:22,293 --> 00:59:24,293
recruitment and nomination

1453
00:59:25,296 --> 00:59:26,197
process from start to finish

1454
00:59:26,197 --> 00:59:26,764
When the commission has a voice

1455
00:59:26,764 --> 00:59:27,565
in who serves on it,

1456
00:59:27,565 --> 00:59:29,734
the community has a voice and

1457
00:59:29,734 --> 00:59:30,268
its own oversight.

1458
00:59:30,268 --> 00:59:31,200
21 people applied.

1459
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,402
Every eligible candidate was

1460
00:59:34,972 --> 00:59:35,606
interviewed and scored on

1461
00:59:35,606 --> 00:59:36,307
the same rubric and every

1462
00:59:36,307 --> 00:59:36,741
nominee before you scored well

1463
00:59:36,741 --> 00:59:38,741
above the bar.

1464
00:59:40,244 --> 00:59:40,912
We are grateful to all who

1465
00:59:40,912 --> 00:59:43,312
applied advancing these six

1466
00:59:44,715 --> 00:59:45,449
that we put forward diminishes

1467
00:59:45,449 --> 00:59:48,449
No one We nominate Emmanuel

1468
00:59:50,288 --> 00:59:51,880
Pereira, Carly Boucher, Dixit,

1469
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,488
Michael James Ruland and

1470
00:59:54,692 --> 00:59:55,226
Francisco Peralta Vargas.

1471
00:59:55,226 --> 00:59:55,927
Together they bring

1472
00:59:55,927 --> 00:59:56,594
the neighborhood's generations

1473
00:59:56,594 --> 00:59:58,594
and professional experience

1474
00:59:59,597 --> 01:00:00,297
This commission was built to

1475
01:00:00,297 --> 01:00:03,297
reflect The final word belongs

1476
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:04,702
to the Council as it should.

1477
01:00:04,702 --> 01:00:05,436
We respectfully urge your

1478
01:00:05,436 --> 01:00:07,436
serious consideration including

1479
01:00:08,739 --> 01:00:11,139
comment Maximillian Schmidt if

1480
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:19,717
you can please come forward And

1481
01:00:19,717 --> 01:00:22,987
Yusef Miller if you can please

1482
01:00:22,987 --> 01:00:23,688
come up to the front of

1483
01:00:23,688 --> 01:00:27,888
the room as well so that you

1484
01:00:27,959 --> 01:00:31,559
will be speaking soon on Hi.

1485
01:00:32,362 --> 01:00:33,640
I just wanted to share my story

1486
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,664
of being abused by the police.

1487
01:00:37,935 --> 01:00:38,603
I am I has a problem of

1488
01:00:38,603 --> 01:00:41,603
trusting the police too much

1489
01:00:42,874 --> 01:00:43,641
where what happened was I was

1490
01:00:43,641 --> 01:00:47,245
in my apartment and I lost my

1491
01:00:47,245 --> 01:00:47,945
job and I was spending a lot of

1492
01:00:47,945 --> 01:00:51,545
time alone in my apartment And

1493
01:00:52,283 --> 01:00:53,160
my walls are very thin and I

1494
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:53,351
could hear my neighbors reading

1495
01:00:53,351 --> 01:00:55,351
my mind.

1496
01:00:57,155 --> 01:00:57,722
So I filed a police report in

1497
01:00:57,722 --> 01:01:00,122
the police station and

1498
01:01:01,893 --> 01:01:02,594
the police ended up saying that

1499
01:01:02,594 --> 01:01:03,561
I was mentally ill and taking

1500
01:01:03,561 --> 01:01:06,497
me to a psych ward And in

1501
01:01:06,497 --> 01:01:07,164
the psych ward they actually

1502
01:01:07,164 --> 01:01:10,764
abused me by reading my mind

1503
01:01:10,969 --> 01:01:14,569
and held me in voluntarily and

1504
01:01:15,573 --> 01:01:16,307
called me mentally ill and

1505
01:01:16,307 --> 01:01:16,974
accused me of being mentally

1506
01:01:16,974 --> 01:01:17,609
ill and I was actually being

1507
01:01:17,609 --> 01:01:20,900
harassed by my neighbors.

1508
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:21,713
They were on the Internet calls

1509
01:01:21,713 --> 01:01:24,713
it like other people who

1510
01:01:26,251 --> 01:01:26,685
experienced they call it like

1511
01:01:26,685 --> 01:01:27,452
play by play.

1512
01:01:27,452 --> 01:01:28,186
So it's like a sports broadcast

1513
01:01:28,186 --> 01:01:31,186
You're saying what you're doing

1514
01:01:31,389 --> 01:01:32,123
and my neighbors could see

1515
01:01:32,123 --> 01:01:32,856
through my eyes through calling

1516
01:01:32,856 --> 01:01:33,758
the Cardinals concerning what I

1517
01:01:33,758 --> 01:01:34,426
was doing.

1518
01:01:34,426 --> 01:01:35,930
>> Thank you for that

1519
01:01:35,930 --> 01:01:37,930
concluding comment allegedly

1520
01:01:38,696 --> 01:01:40,696
Andre I'm sorry.

1521
01:01:43,501 --> 01:01:45,501
Okay.

1522
01:01:48,206 --> 01:01:48,907
>> I find it interesting as I

1523
01:01:48,907 --> 01:01:51,907
was setting everything up, you

1524
01:01:52,677 --> 01:01:53,378
know, your staff came and told

1525
01:01:53,378 --> 01:01:55,778
these individuals there would

1526
01:01:57,414 --> 01:01:58,490
be a criminal background check

1527
01:01:58,490 --> 01:01:58,850
after this whole process.

1528
01:01:58,850 --> 01:02:01,850
I'm wondering if that's putting

1529
01:02:03,221 --> 01:02:03,922
the cart before the horse and

1530
01:02:03,922 --> 01:02:07,192
maybe we should do that prior

1531
01:02:07,192 --> 01:02:08,930
because then what do you do And

1532
01:02:08,930 --> 01:02:08,760
then we have to come back here

1533
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,760
and repeat this business And

1534
01:02:11,997 --> 01:02:12,597
Steve and I find it so

1535
01:02:12,597 --> 01:02:13,299
hypocritical that you're

1536
01:02:13,299 --> 01:02:16,299
actually asking if somebody is

1537
01:02:17,134 --> 01:02:17,836
going to have some kind of

1538
01:02:17,836 --> 01:02:18,603
sound judgment or if they are

1539
01:02:18,603 --> 01:02:21,908
going to be biased if they have

1540
01:02:21,908 --> 01:02:22,540
a you know, opinion about floc

1541
01:02:22,540 --> 01:02:25,540
when Theresa Smith is your

1542
01:02:26,311 --> 01:02:26,978
friend and people are dying in

1543
01:02:26,978 --> 01:02:27,679
Tent City who are your

1544
01:02:27,679 --> 01:02:30,679
constituents and you just turn

1545
01:02:31,650 --> 01:02:32,517
a blind eye like you are now.

1546
01:02:32,517 --> 01:02:33,251
And this is sad because this

1547
01:02:33,251 --> 01:02:35,651
doesn't give anybody authority.

1548
01:02:36,121 --> 01:02:36,822
Unfortunately all these people

1549
01:02:36,822 --> 01:02:37,422
are good candidates but when

1550
01:02:37,422 --> 01:02:40,422
there is no authority to

1551
01:02:41,460 --> 01:02:42,294
enforce things all they're

1552
01:02:42,294 --> 01:02:42,994
going to be doing is a bunch of

1553
01:02:42,994 --> 01:02:43,662
busywork to make it seem like

1554
01:02:43,662 --> 01:02:45,662
there's accountability with

1555
01:02:46,310 --> 01:02:46,697
the law enforcement And that is

1556
01:02:46,697 --> 01:02:48,835
extremely unfortunate and a

1557
01:02:48,835 --> 01:02:51,235
waste of their time.

1558
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,406
Yusef Miller Good afternoon.

1559
01:02:58,877 --> 01:02:59,478
My name is Yousef Miller and

1560
01:02:59,478 --> 01:03:00,178
with the Saving Lives in

1561
01:03:00,178 --> 01:03:02,578
Custody California and police

1562
01:03:03,649 --> 01:03:04,283
accountability Ability by Mass

1563
01:03:04,283 --> 01:03:06,283
Accountability Coalition.

1564
01:03:07,853 --> 01:03:08,754
And I want you to approve

1565
01:03:08,754 --> 01:03:09,420
everyone to put them on and

1566
01:03:09,420 --> 01:03:13,200
give us a full complement of

1567
01:03:13,191 --> 01:03:13,992
the keep us as old San Diego

1568
01:03:13,992 --> 01:03:17,592
has had a long history of

1569
01:03:18,330 --> 01:03:19,300
police violence against a

1570
01:03:19,300 --> 01:03:19,798
community all coming to a head

1571
01:03:19,798 --> 01:03:23,202
in the 1980s when we had

1572
01:03:23,202 --> 01:03:23,935
the issue or the case of

1573
01:03:23,935 --> 01:03:24,569
Sergeant Penn which inspired us

1574
01:03:24,569 --> 01:03:27,569
to have an oversight for

1575
01:03:28,173 --> 01:03:28,874
policing in San Diego County

1576
01:03:28,874 --> 01:03:29,741
and that's evolved to what it

1577
01:03:29,741 --> 01:03:33,245
is today The only way it can

1578
01:03:33,245 --> 01:03:33,946
function properly as if it has

1579
01:03:33,946 --> 01:03:37,546
a full complement of people on

1580
01:03:37,883 --> 01:03:38,584
those empty seats We I hear a

1581
01:03:38,584 --> 01:03:39,284
lot of wonderful applicants

1582
01:03:39,284 --> 01:03:39,985
that are here behind me and I

1583
01:03:39,985 --> 01:03:42,521
believe they will all do a

1584
01:03:42,521 --> 01:03:43,589
great job.

1585
01:03:43,589 --> 01:03:47,760
And Mike Mike ask in my hope is

1586
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:48,460
that you approve them all

1587
01:03:48,460 --> 01:03:51,460
the youth complement the every

1588
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:53,832
compliment that is behind me

1589
01:03:53,832 --> 01:03:54,566
because we need to get to work

1590
01:03:54,566 --> 01:03:55,167
and do some positive things and

1591
01:03:55,167 --> 01:03:57,567
represent the people of

1592
01:03:58,804 --> 01:03:59,271
the community.

1593
01:03:59,271 --> 01:03:59,672
>> Thank you.

1594
01:03:59,672 --> 01:04:01,672
Thank you.

1595
01:04:01,874 --> 01:04:02,540
I started the five minute timer

1596
01:04:02,540 --> 01:04:02,908
going to those participating

1597
01:04:02,908 --> 01:04:03,642
remotely.

1598
01:04:03,642 --> 01:04:04,276
We currently have five speakers

1599
01:04:04,276 --> 01:04:06,145
in the queue starting with

1600
01:04:06,145 --> 01:04:06,445
Hector if you can please on

1601
01:04:06,445 --> 01:04:06,812
mute.

1602
01:04:06,812 --> 01:04:08,812
>> Thanks.

1603
01:04:10,515 --> 01:04:11,383
I would recommend the lady from

1604
01:04:11,383 --> 01:04:14,983
district four She seems to have

1605
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:16,220
a just a really good

1606
01:04:16,220 --> 01:04:19,220
perspective of what's going on

1607
01:04:19,991 --> 01:04:20,826
in San Diego.

1608
01:04:20,826 --> 01:04:21,527
I don't know if you guys can

1609
01:04:21,527 --> 01:04:24,896
approve a law that sounds good

1610
01:04:24,896 --> 01:04:25,597
to me too but I don't know if

1611
01:04:25,597 --> 01:04:29,197
you're looking for one or more

1612
01:04:29,635 --> 01:04:30,436
than one but do the recent

1613
01:04:30,436 --> 01:04:31,103
things that one shooting of

1614
01:04:31,103 --> 01:04:34,440
the guy and we're still like

1615
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:35,107
form and committees and stuff

1616
01:04:35,107 --> 01:04:35,708
but you can approve them all

1617
01:04:35,708 --> 01:04:38,708
But I would lean towards

1618
01:04:38,844 --> 01:04:39,411
the lady from District four.

1619
01:04:39,411 --> 01:04:40,112
>> Thank you.

1620
01:04:40,112 --> 01:04:43,112
Thank you Francine Maxwell If

1621
01:04:43,682 --> 01:04:44,383
you can please unmute Francine

1622
01:04:44,383 --> 01:04:46,783
Maxwell Southeastern San Diego

1623
01:04:48,354 --> 01:04:49,200
Given that we have multiple

1624
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:49,788
empty seats and some people

1625
01:04:49,788 --> 01:04:52,825
that are going to expire they

1626
01:04:52,825 --> 01:04:55,225
were acknowledged last meeting

1627
01:04:57,262 --> 01:04:57,997
So I support full panel that

1628
01:04:57,997 --> 01:05:00,997
has been presented here tonight

1629
01:05:03,702 --> 01:05:04,504
very support of Sister Jamie

1630
01:05:04,504 --> 01:05:07,504
because as she said fair

1631
01:05:07,506 --> 01:05:08,174
impartial, nothing but

1632
01:05:08,174 --> 01:05:11,774
the facts And again we need

1633
01:05:12,545 --> 01:05:13,112
people to stay on topic And

1634
01:05:13,112 --> 01:05:13,746
it's interesting that

1635
01:05:13,746 --> 01:05:14,413
the council PRESIDENT Said

1636
01:05:14,413 --> 01:05:17,283
people would have to stay on

1637
01:05:17,283 --> 01:05:17,984
topic Talking about mind

1638
01:05:17,984 --> 01:05:20,984
reading for every agenda item

1639
01:05:22,855 --> 01:05:23,522
is absolutely his right But if

1640
01:05:23,522 --> 01:05:24,189
this is about the sleep and

1641
01:05:24,189 --> 01:05:26,589
everything should have been

1642
01:05:26,892 --> 01:05:27,560
about the sleep so let's not be

1643
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,960
performative again The sleep

1644
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:31,797
needs people in the seats so

1645
01:05:31,797 --> 01:05:32,631
that they can understand what

1646
01:05:32,631 --> 01:05:36,335
is going on in San Diego and

1647
01:05:36,335 --> 01:05:36,969
help build the bridge that we

1648
01:05:36,969 --> 01:05:39,969
want from the community to

1649
01:05:41,207 --> 01:05:41,507
the San Diego Police Department

1650
01:05:41,507 --> 01:05:42,375
.

1651
01:05:42,375 --> 01:05:45,678
>> Thank you for allowing me to

1652
01:05:45,678 --> 01:05:46,780
speak Blair Beckman Thank you.

1653
01:05:46,780 --> 01:05:48,780
Hi.

1654
01:05:50,483 --> 01:05:51,184
Blair Beekman We can all have

1655
01:05:51,184 --> 01:05:52,510
our own ideas and feelings on

1656
01:05:52,510 --> 01:05:55,354
things to bring them to this

1657
01:05:55,354 --> 01:05:56,222
sort of body and to work

1658
01:05:56,222 --> 01:05:59,822
towards a neutral space is an

1659
01:06:00,326 --> 01:06:00,726
important concept to understand

1660
01:06:00,726 --> 01:06:01,394
and balance.

1661
01:06:01,394 --> 01:06:04,394
>> Good luck in that effort.

1662
01:06:05,697 --> 01:06:06,398
There's a lot that's going on

1663
01:06:06,398 --> 01:06:06,999
with clock We could be in

1664
01:06:06,999 --> 01:06:10,599
the next year and a half

1665
01:06:10,669 --> 01:06:11,304
The city of Oakland is giving

1666
01:06:11,304 --> 01:06:11,871
Blair Layer This is about

1667
01:06:11,871 --> 01:06:13,871
the cpp appointments.

1668
01:06:15,374 --> 01:06:16,750
Please focus on that Not agenda

1669
01:06:16,750 --> 01:06:19,846
will come up later in the day

1670
01:06:19,846 --> 01:06:20,546
You can unmute I'm doing a very

1671
01:06:20,546 --> 01:06:21,313
good job You missed the point

1672
01:06:21,313 --> 01:06:24,250
of my my speaking on this

1673
01:06:24,250 --> 01:06:25,184
subject.

1674
01:06:25,184 --> 01:06:25,751
We have to learn how to be

1675
01:06:25,751 --> 01:06:26,452
accepting of different

1676
01:06:26,452 --> 01:06:28,852
conversations that are taking

1677
01:06:28,955 --> 01:06:29,355
place in working towards a

1678
01:06:29,355 --> 01:06:30,220
neutrality.

1679
01:06:30,220 --> 01:06:33,220
Good luck on those efforts.

1680
01:06:33,726 --> 01:06:37,926
With that said I wanted to also

1681
01:06:38,798 --> 01:06:39,398
offer the idea that I hope all

1682
01:06:39,398 --> 01:06:40,320
persons here today were

1683
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:40,600
considering the future and

1684
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,000
the importance of tech

1685
01:06:44,300 --> 01:06:44,637
accountability and what that

1686
01:06:44,637 --> 01:06:45,337
really means and what that

1687
01:06:45,337 --> 01:06:48,207
means and working towards is a

1688
01:06:48,207 --> 01:06:48,841
community participation process

1689
01:06:48,841 --> 01:06:49,575
and that it's important.

1690
01:06:49,575 --> 01:06:52,575
It's an important concept of

1691
01:06:53,212 --> 01:06:53,813
community sustainability.

1692
01:06:53,813 --> 01:06:54,447
Accountable policies are

1693
01:06:54,447 --> 01:06:55,810
important for our future.

1694
01:06:55,810 --> 01:06:58,170
Good luck in that effort.

1695
01:06:58,170 --> 01:06:58,518
Thank you.

1696
01:06:58,518 --> 01:07:00,518
>> Thank you.

1697
01:07:01,721 --> 01:07:04,721
Our next speaker is Tony.

1698
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:07,760
Tony, please unmute.

1699
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:08,695
Akinyemi for you.

1700
01:07:08,695 --> 01:07:12,198
i will have to move on to

1701
01:07:12,198 --> 01:07:12,698
the next caller.

1702
01:07:12,698 --> 01:07:14,698
>> >> Yes.

1703
01:07:16,536 --> 01:07:17,136
Please proceed.

1704
01:07:17,136 --> 01:07:18,710
>> Yes, Thank you.

1705
01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:22,271
I just wanted to back the words

1706
01:07:22,976 --> 01:07:23,843
of Francine and Miller.

1707
01:07:23,843 --> 01:07:26,112
I'm in love with you and I

1708
01:07:26,112 --> 01:07:26,879
agree with all the points that

1709
01:07:26,879 --> 01:07:27,680
you made And I also wanted to

1710
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,680
start by giving my own

1711
01:07:31,284 --> 01:07:31,851
endorsement of the very first

1712
01:07:31,851 --> 01:07:34,251
speaker today who was

1713
01:07:35,655 --> 01:07:36,890
representing the students civil

1714
01:07:36,890 --> 01:07:36,990
Law Union.

1715
01:07:36,990 --> 01:07:40,590
I see him and Privacy Advisory

1716
01:07:41,161 --> 01:07:44,161
Board meetings and I've seen

1717
01:07:45,131 --> 01:07:45,832
him at budget meetings and he's

1718
01:07:45,832 --> 01:07:46,800
super involved in the civic

1719
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,401
process and he has a lot of

1720
01:07:48,401 --> 01:07:50,401
experience.

1721
01:07:58,911 --> 01:08:02,511
I also really loved to dropped

1722
01:08:03,450 --> 01:08:03,850
8700 If you can please unmute

1723
01:08:03,850 --> 01:08:05,850
Star six.

1724
01:08:08,455 --> 01:08:09,122
There you go.

1725
01:08:09,122 --> 01:08:09,722
I'm sorry One minute.

1726
01:08:09,722 --> 01:08:12,122
Yes, it's one minute.

1727
01:08:13,393 --> 01:08:13,793
Please proceed.

1728
01:08:13,793 --> 01:08:14,294
Okay.

1729
01:08:14,294 --> 01:08:16,294
Sorry about that.

1730
01:08:17,831 --> 01:08:18,498
Yes To the cap appointments.

1731
01:08:18,498 --> 01:08:20,898
Great batch of people.

1732
01:08:24,136 --> 01:08:24,804
I will I am going to speak

1733
01:08:24,804 --> 01:08:25,505
directly to the clients and

1734
01:08:25,505 --> 01:08:27,807
the candidates in a minute but

1735
01:08:27,807 --> 01:08:28,775
I do want to say this.

1736
01:08:28,775 --> 01:08:32,780
I do have a lot of concern over

1737
01:08:32,780 --> 01:08:32,779
the person that involves flock.

1738
01:08:32,779 --> 01:08:33,113
I think that's a serious

1739
01:08:33,113 --> 01:08:35,113
concern.

1740
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:37,317
Councilmember Whitburn.

1741
01:08:37,317 --> 01:08:38,185
Okay.

1742
01:08:38,185 --> 01:08:41,185
So I have two recommendations

1743
01:08:42,255 --> 01:08:43,220
for the candidate.

1744
01:08:43,220 --> 01:08:43,523
Number one, So if you can

1745
01:08:43,523 --> 01:08:45,523
please listen up.

1746
01:08:46,426 --> 01:08:47,127
If you are not truly

1747
01:08:47,127 --> 01:08:49,527
knowledgeable of it, I

1748
01:08:51,198 --> 01:08:51,765
recommend you review.

1749
01:08:51,765 --> 01:08:53,765
Qualified immunity is

1750
01:08:56,102 --> 01:08:56,903
judicially created Legal rule

1751
01:08:56,903 --> 01:09:00,503
that was established by the us

1752
01:09:01,441 --> 01:09:01,741
Supreme Court and this involves

1753
01:09:01,741 --> 01:09:03,741
a cpd.

1754
01:09:05,879 --> 01:09:06,546
And then the other thing is

1755
01:09:06,546 --> 01:09:09,546
number two a dear candidate.

1756
01:09:10,250 --> 01:09:10,751
These are my words on the human

1757
01:09:10,751 --> 01:09:11,318
side of your work.

1758
01:09:11,318 --> 01:09:13,718
We are all biased.

1759
01:09:15,455 --> 01:09:16,323
We are all flawed.

1760
01:09:16,323 --> 01:09:16,723
We are all wounded and we all

1761
01:09:16,723 --> 01:09:18,723
bleed red.

1762
01:09:21,228 --> 01:09:22,950
So she says concluded Your time

1763
01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:25,432
has concluded and so have all

1764
01:09:25,432 --> 01:09:25,732
the public comments for this

1765
01:09:25,732 --> 01:09:26,166
item.

1766
01:09:26,166 --> 01:09:26,866
>> All right.

1767
01:09:26,866 --> 01:09:29,369
Thank you City Clerk With that

1768
01:09:29,369 --> 01:09:32,969
we will now go to council

1769
01:09:35,843 --> 01:09:36,543
member comments if any.

1770
01:09:36,543 --> 01:09:36,910
>> Council member Ella Rivera

1771
01:09:36,910 --> 01:09:37,811
Thank you.

1772
01:09:37,811 --> 01:09:39,479
I just wanted to say thank you

1773
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:40,179
for all the applicants for

1774
01:09:40,179 --> 01:09:40,848
putting your name forward and

1775
01:09:40,848 --> 01:09:43,848
your interest in serving in

1776
01:09:44,318 --> 01:09:44,885
this capacity regardless of how

1777
01:09:44,885 --> 01:09:47,285
the process plays out.

1778
01:09:48,488 --> 01:09:49,389
I do know that you already

1779
01:09:49,389 --> 01:09:50,560
spent a lot of time to get to

1780
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:50,557
this point and the interest

1781
01:09:50,557 --> 01:09:52,557
that you've shown.

1782
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:54,761
I appreciate it is a very

1783
01:09:54,761 --> 01:09:55,429
important position and I very

1784
01:09:55,429 --> 01:09:58,310
much respect that You are up

1785
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:58,698
through your name in the hat

1786
01:09:58,698 --> 01:09:59,265
and especially because it's

1787
01:09:59,265 --> 01:09:59,699
such a public process.

1788
01:09:59,699 --> 01:10:01,699
So thank you.

1789
01:10:03,700 --> 01:10:03,804
Thank you.

1790
01:10:03,804 --> 01:10:04,505
Council Member We'll go next to

1791
01:10:04,505 --> 01:10:04,772
Council Member Whitburn Thank

1792
01:10:04,772 --> 01:10:06,772
you.

1793
01:10:08,475 --> 01:10:09,760
Council PRESIDENT Since MS..

1794
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,476
Knight brought it up.

1795
01:10:12,546 --> 01:10:13,147
And I am going to support MR.

1796
01:10:13,147 --> 01:10:15,547
Pereira as one of

1797
01:10:17,584 --> 01:10:18,118
the candidates I vote for He

1798
01:10:18,118 --> 01:10:18,786
and I have different

1799
01:10:18,786 --> 01:10:21,786
perspectives on Alpers but i

1800
01:10:21,822 --> 01:10:22,489
was afraid to give a good

1801
01:10:22,489 --> 01:10:23,156
answer about his ability to

1802
01:10:23,156 --> 01:10:23,824
look at things objectively.

1803
01:10:23,824 --> 01:10:24,900
So that's what we're looking

1804
01:10:24,900 --> 01:10:26,900
for.

1805
01:10:26,660 --> 01:10:27,600
Thank you.

1806
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:27,428
All right.

1807
01:10:27,428 --> 01:10:28,280
Thank you.

1808
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,280
Council member Whitburn.

1809
01:10:31,310 --> 01:10:31,731
I don't see anybody else on

1810
01:10:31,731 --> 01:10:35,331
the lights so I'll just close

1811
01:10:36,437 --> 01:10:37,104
by expressing my thanks to

1812
01:10:37,104 --> 01:10:37,805
the candidates for the extra

1813
01:10:37,805 --> 01:10:38,538
work you did And for those of

1814
01:10:38,538 --> 01:10:40,608
you that had the opportunity to

1815
01:10:40,608 --> 01:10:41,375
come down.

1816
01:10:41,375 --> 01:10:44,375
Certainly those who MAY have

1817
01:10:45,246 --> 01:10:46,460
have a job are at school and

1818
01:10:46,460 --> 01:10:46,446
you know that's not a strike

1819
01:10:46,446 --> 01:10:47,140
against you.

1820
01:10:47,140 --> 01:10:50,140
But thank you for your

1821
01:10:50,884 --> 01:10:51,585
willingness to participate And

1822
01:10:51,585 --> 01:10:55,155
you do realize how much work

1823
01:10:55,155 --> 01:10:55,856
there is in seep and hopefully

1824
01:10:55,856 --> 01:10:56,590
they briefed you on that.

1825
01:10:56,590 --> 01:10:59,590
I think your research probably

1826
01:10:59,827 --> 01:11:00,628
gives you an indication of once

1827
01:11:00,628 --> 01:11:01,328
they really get up and running

1828
01:11:01,328 --> 01:11:04,328
that the Commission on Police

1829
01:11:04,999 --> 01:11:05,698
Practices will be a real

1830
01:11:05,698 --> 01:11:08,980
definition of public service.

1831
01:11:09,370 --> 01:11:10,700
I want to thank Heidi of

1832
01:11:10,700 --> 01:11:10,737
the Council Presidents Office

1833
01:11:10,737 --> 01:11:11,338
for all the work in bringing

1834
01:11:11,338 --> 01:11:13,338
the candidates together.

1835
01:11:14,208 --> 01:11:14,909
Thank you to the Commission on

1836
01:11:14,909 --> 01:11:17,309
Police Practices for actually

1837
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:19,790
getting organized this year and

1838
01:11:19,790 --> 01:11:19,780
making recommendations.

1839
01:11:19,780 --> 01:11:20,448
I think that's very helpful to

1840
01:11:20,448 --> 01:11:23,448
the council members So thank

1841
01:11:23,484 --> 01:11:24,150
you for that.

1842
01:11:24,150 --> 01:11:25,180
So there's probably somebody

1843
01:11:25,180 --> 01:11:28,689
else I should thank but it's a

1844
01:11:28,689 --> 01:11:29,256
complicated process and I

1845
01:11:29,256 --> 01:11:29,924
appreciate everybody's

1846
01:11:29,924 --> 01:11:32,924
engagement to take the work.

1847
01:11:33,194 --> 01:11:33,961
There's Heidi.

1848
01:11:33,961 --> 01:11:37,561
So all right with that clerk,

1849
01:11:38,199 --> 01:11:38,599
please outline the balloting

1850
01:11:38,599 --> 01:11:39,166
procedures.

1851
01:11:39,166 --> 01:11:39,534
>> Thank you, Council

1852
01:11:39,534 --> 01:11:40,167
PRESIDENT.

1853
01:11:40,167 --> 01:11:43,167
The procedures will be as

1854
01:11:43,571 --> 01:11:44,272
follows We will be distributing

1855
01:11:44,272 --> 01:11:46,974
the first ballot for districts

1856
01:11:46,974 --> 01:11:47,675
two and District eight

1857
01:11:47,675 --> 01:11:48,209
representatives as well as

1858
01:11:48,209 --> 01:11:50,209
the youth category.

1859
01:11:50,411 --> 01:11:51,145
We will then distribute

1860
01:11:51,145 --> 01:11:51,679
the second ballot for the other

1861
01:11:51,679 --> 01:11:52,346
categories as well.

1862
01:11:52,346 --> 01:11:55,346
The low and moderate income

1863
01:11:56,500 --> 01:11:56,417
category with term ending JUNE

1864
01:11:56,417 --> 01:11:57,418
30th 2027.

1865
01:11:57,418 --> 01:12:00,988
Then a third ballot for low and

1866
01:12:00,988 --> 01:12:03,988
moderate income category with a

1867
01:12:04,959 --> 01:12:05,659
new term of JULY 1st 2026 to

1868
01:12:05,659 --> 01:12:08,659
JUNE 30th 2028 and then a

1869
01:12:09,530 --> 01:12:09,897
fourth ballot for the at large

1870
01:12:09,897 --> 01:12:10,598
category.

1871
01:12:10,598 --> 01:12:11,399
So thank you for your patience

1872
01:12:11,399 --> 01:12:14,902
as we do all of the balloting.

1873
01:12:14,902 --> 01:12:15,569
Once a candidate receives five

1874
01:12:15,569 --> 01:12:16,370
affirmative votes that seat

1875
01:12:16,370 --> 01:12:18,370
will be filled.

1876
01:12:19,373 --> 01:12:20,410
I will announce the votes for

1877
01:12:20,410 --> 01:12:20,641
each candidate at the end of

1878
01:12:20,641 --> 01:12:23,410
each round of balloting.

1879
01:12:24,145 --> 01:12:24,745
Please note if no one receives

1880
01:12:24,745 --> 01:12:25,446
at least five votes in

1881
01:12:25,446 --> 01:12:28,446
the first round of balloting,

1882
01:12:28,549 --> 01:12:29,217
the candidate with the lowest

1883
01:12:29,217 --> 01:12:29,917
number of votes shall be

1884
01:12:29,917 --> 01:12:30,585
dropped from the next round of

1885
01:12:30,585 --> 01:12:32,985
balloting unless the lowest

1886
01:12:34,188 --> 01:12:34,555
vote getters are in a tie

1887
01:12:34,555 --> 01:12:35,156
situation.

1888
01:12:35,156 --> 01:12:37,156
This procedure includes

1889
01:12:38,250 --> 01:12:38,426
candidates who have received

1890
01:12:38,426 --> 01:12:39,160
zero votes.

1891
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:39,860
New ballots will be distributed

1892
01:12:39,860 --> 01:12:42,797
and a new round of voting will

1893
01:12:42,797 --> 01:12:43,598
be taken.

1894
01:12:43,598 --> 01:12:44,299
My staff has distributed paper

1895
01:12:44,299 --> 01:12:47,299
ballots to the council members

1896
01:12:47,768 --> 01:12:48,469
for that first round of

1897
01:12:48,469 --> 01:12:51,469
balloting for districts to age

1898
01:12:51,839 --> 01:12:52,607
and youth category.

1899
01:12:52,607 --> 01:12:53,308
This will likely be somewhat of

1900
01:12:53,308 --> 01:12:56,308
a time intensive process with

1901
01:12:56,977 --> 01:12:57,612
some pauses pauses between

1902
01:12:57,612 --> 01:12:58,346
submissions and tallying.

1903
01:12:58,346 --> 01:13:01,346
So we appreciate your patience.

1904
01:13:01,349 --> 01:13:02,150
Council members please vote

1905
01:13:02,150 --> 01:13:05,150
once you have concluded voting

1906
01:13:06,387 --> 01:13:07,255
please.

1907
01:13:07,255 --> 01:13:07,988
Fold in half and lift your

1908
01:13:07,988 --> 01:13:11,588
ballot so staff knows that they

1909
01:13:20,901 --> 01:13:21,669
can collect your ballot.

1910
01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:22,337
>> I will just note for

1911
01:13:22,337 --> 01:13:25,337
the record that the District

1912
01:13:25,507 --> 01:13:26,274
two representatives you can

1913
01:13:26,274 --> 01:13:30,770
select is for a term ending or

1914
01:13:30,770 --> 01:13:30,945
starting on JULY 1st, 2026 and

1915
01:13:30,945 --> 01:13:33,882
ending on JUNE 30th 2028 for

1916
01:13:33,882 --> 01:13:34,581
the District eight

1917
01:13:34,581 --> 01:13:37,418
representative It is for a new

1918
01:13:37,418 --> 01:13:38,119
term starting on JULY 1st, 2026

1919
01:13:38,119 --> 01:13:41,119
and ending on JUNE 30th 2028

1920
01:13:42,823 --> 01:13:43,525
And for the youth category

1921
01:13:43,525 --> 01:13:44,250
which you can select two

1922
01:13:44,250 --> 01:13:44,659
candidates to fill

1923
01:13:44,659 --> 01:13:47,659
the remainder of the term

1924
01:14:00,608 --> 01:14:01,376
ending on JUNE 30th 2027.

1925
01:14:01,376 --> 01:14:04,376
>> We'll just take a slight

1926
01:15:32,434 --> 01:15:32,768
pause to tabulate

1927
01:15:32,768 --> 01:15:34,768
.

1928
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:38,139
>> I will now announce

1929
01:15:38,139 --> 01:15:41,739
the results of the first round

1930
01:15:44,746 --> 01:15:47,746
of balloting district to Hemant

1931
01:15:49,351 --> 01:15:49,952
Kumar de Charla received a zero

1932
01:15:49,952 --> 01:15:50,586
vote Has Susan Martin or

1933
01:15:50,586 --> 01:15:50,885
someone else for District

1934
01:15:50,885 --> 01:15:52,885
eight?

1935
01:15:57,259 --> 01:15:57,658
Received nine votes Received

1936
01:15:57,658 --> 01:15:58,327
seven votes.

1937
01:15:58,327 --> 01:16:00,727
Youth seat Kelly Rusher

1938
01:16:03,965 --> 01:16:06,965
received seven votes and Ariane

1939
01:16:07,603 --> 01:16:07,902
Dixit received five affirmative

1940
01:16:07,902 --> 01:16:09,902
votes.

1941
01:16:12,574 --> 01:16:13,175
We do have a district eight and

1942
01:16:13,175 --> 01:16:13,609
the youth seats filled.

1943
01:16:13,609 --> 01:16:15,609
>> Thank you.

1944
01:16:17,913 --> 01:16:18,414
Council PRESIDENT.

1945
01:16:18,414 --> 01:16:18,980
>> All right.

1946
01:16:18,980 --> 01:16:21,316
Thank you for that.

1947
01:16:21,316 --> 01:16:24,316
Given the outcome, let's move

1948
01:16:28,230 --> 01:16:28,490
on to the next ballot.

1949
01:16:28,490 --> 01:16:29,191
Thank you.

1950
01:16:29,191 --> 01:16:29,892
The second round of balloting

1951
01:16:29,892 --> 01:16:30,459
is for low and moderate income

1952
01:16:30,459 --> 01:16:32,459
Staff is distributing

1953
01:16:33,962 --> 01:16:34,296
the ballots to all council

1954
01:16:34,296 --> 01:16:34,997
members.

1955
01:16:34,997 --> 01:16:35,698
Please select two nominees to

1956
01:16:35,698 --> 01:16:39,298
fill the remainder of the term

1957
01:16:39,802 --> 01:16:40,501
ending on JUNE 30th 2027.

1958
01:16:40,501 --> 01:16:43,501
Once completed please hold up

1959
01:16:45,740 --> 01:16:45,974
your ballot to hold it in half

1960
01:16:45,974 --> 01:16:46,708
and hold up your ballot so that

1961
01:16:46,708 --> 01:16:47,443
staff member from my office can

1962
01:16:47,443 --> 01:16:51,430
collect the ballot from you for

1963
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:25,219
tabulation

1964
01:17:25,219 --> 01:17:27,219
.

1965
01:17:30,186 --> 01:17:30,820
>> Just to clarify it is two

1966
01:17:30,820 --> 01:17:31,454
seats two nominees to fill

1967
01:17:31,454 --> 01:17:34,454
the remainder of the term

1968
01:17:36,826 --> 01:17:40,426
ending on JUNE 30th 2027 So you

1969
01:17:44,167 --> 01:17:45,340
select two from the list.

1970
01:17:45,340 --> 01:17:45,668
>> Just to make sure we're all

1971
01:17:45,668 --> 01:17:49,268
on the same page And then

1972
01:17:49,672 --> 01:17:50,339
following this there will be a

1973
01:17:50,339 --> 01:17:51,400
separate ballot for the term

1974
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:51,374
ending JUNE 30th, 28, correct?

1975
01:17:51,374 --> 01:17:51,674
Correct.

1976
01:17:51,674 --> 01:17:53,674
Yeah.

1977
01:17:53,709 --> 01:17:54,410
So we're only doing this 27

1978
01:17:54,410 --> 01:17:56,678
which is the shorter term And

1979
01:17:56,678 --> 01:18:00,278
then we will circle back to

1980
01:18:02,785 --> 01:18:03,552
the 2028 Slightly longer term.

1981
01:18:03,552 --> 01:18:04,186
So just to recap again from

1982
01:18:04,186 --> 01:18:06,186
the beginning instructions

1983
01:18:09,158 --> 01:18:09,525
there will be four rounds of

1984
01:18:09,525 --> 01:18:11,525
balloting.

1985
01:18:14,263 --> 01:18:17,863
One for the 2027 term for low

1986
01:18:18,334 --> 01:18:19,350
and moderate, one for the 2028

1987
01:18:19,350 --> 01:18:19,769
term for the low and moderate.

1988
01:18:19,769 --> 01:18:23,369
And then for the At-Large as

1989
01:18:24,407 --> 01:18:25,241
well.

1990
01:18:25,241 --> 01:18:25,808
>> This a question These are

1991
01:18:25,808 --> 01:18:26,475
not consecutive terms.

1992
01:18:26,475 --> 01:18:28,875
These are concurrent terms.

1993
01:18:30,246 --> 01:18:30,579
We have to nominate four

1994
01:18:30,579 --> 01:18:32,579
people.

1995
01:18:34,317 --> 01:18:34,750
>> Now we're only voting for

1996
01:18:34,750 --> 01:18:35,585
the 2027 seat.

1997
01:18:35,585 --> 01:18:39,785
And then once we get done with

1998
01:18:40,656 --> 01:18:41,459
that then we'll come back and

1999
01:18:41,459 --> 01:18:41,891
do a separate ballot for

2000
01:18:41,891 --> 01:18:42,191
the 2028 seat.

2001
01:18:42,191 --> 01:18:44,191
Okay.

2002
01:18:46,562 --> 01:18:46,929
But there's four open seats

2003
01:18:46,929 --> 01:18:47,229
right now.

2004
01:18:47,229 --> 01:18:47,930
Okay.

2005
01:18:47,930 --> 01:18:51,530
And they're all going to start

2006
01:18:53,502 --> 01:18:53,870
as soon as Jeff got to

2007
01:18:53,870 --> 01:18:54,270
thinking.

2008
01:18:54,270 --> 01:18:56,270
Yeah, right.

2009
01:18:56,272 --> 01:18:59,575
How do you figure the And I

2010
01:18:59,575 --> 01:19:01,575
said yes.

2011
01:21:04,201 --> 01:21:06,201
Three six

2012
01:22:12,736 --> 01:22:15,736
I announced the results of

2013
01:22:18,408 --> 01:22:19,276
the first round of balloting

2014
01:22:19,276 --> 01:22:22,876
for Emily but I received two

2015
01:22:23,246 --> 01:22:24,130
votes Francisco I'm sorry.

2016
01:22:24,130 --> 01:22:24,314
Rashida Lamar I received three

2017
01:22:24,314 --> 01:22:26,314
votes.

2018
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:29,852
Scott Rodriguez received five

2019
01:22:29,852 --> 01:22:30,487
votes.

2020
01:22:30,487 --> 01:22:30,888
James Tyler Ruland received

2021
01:22:30,888 --> 01:22:32,888
four votes.

2022
01:22:35,425 --> 01:22:36,930
Congratulations to Scott

2023
01:22:36,930 --> 01:22:36,593
Rodriguez as filling one of

2024
01:22:36,593 --> 01:22:38,593
the vacant seats.

2025
01:22:41,965 --> 01:22:42,566
Another vacancy for this term

2026
01:22:42,566 --> 01:22:43,330
ending on JUNE 30th 2027

2027
01:22:43,330 --> 01:22:45,330
remains vacant.

2028
01:22:47,938 --> 01:22:48,605
Would you like to proceed with

2029
01:22:48,605 --> 01:22:49,390
another round of balloting?

2030
01:22:49,390 --> 01:22:49,773
>> Yes, Let's.

2031
01:22:49,773 --> 01:22:52,773
Yes, let's proceed with another

2032
01:22:53,644 --> 01:22:54,511
round.

2033
01:22:54,511 --> 01:22:58,711
If you all could please put a

2034
01:22:58,849 --> 01:22:59,516
line through Scott Rodriguez

2035
01:22:59,516 --> 01:23:00,417
since he has already been

2036
01:23:00,417 --> 01:23:04,170
appointed and you MAY vote for

2037
01:25:01,272 --> 01:25:03,272
one

2038
01:25:08,112 --> 01:25:08,846
.

2039
01:25:08,846 --> 01:25:09,580
>> Nobody received five

2040
01:25:09,580 --> 01:25:09,914
affirmative votes in this round

2041
01:25:09,914 --> 01:25:11,914
as well.

2042
01:25:15,620 --> 01:25:16,287
That received two votes.

2043
01:25:16,287 --> 01:25:16,654
Rasheeda Lamar how many you

2044
01:25:16,654 --> 01:25:16,921
received?

2045
01:25:16,921 --> 01:25:18,921
One.

2046
01:25:20,230 --> 01:25:20,692
James Tyler Roland received

2047
01:25:20,692 --> 01:25:23,920
four and Francisco Peralta.

2048
01:25:24,661 --> 01:25:25,596
Vargas received zero.

2049
01:25:25,596 --> 01:25:29,196
We'll go for another round of

2050
01:25:30,201 --> 01:25:32,201
balloting.

2051
01:25:38,943 --> 01:25:42,543
Yeah, let's try one more time.

2052
01:25:44,415 --> 01:25:48,150
>> Again as a reminder to cross

2053
01:27:24,820 --> 01:27:24,416
of Scott Rodriguez

2054
01:27:24,416 --> 01:27:26,416
.

2055
01:27:30,322 --> 01:27:30,821
>> James Tyrrell received seven

2056
01:27:30,821 --> 01:27:31,489
affirmative votes.

2057
01:27:31,489 --> 01:27:32,156
No other votes were cast for

2058
01:27:32,156 --> 01:27:32,524
any of the other nominees at

2059
01:27:32,524 --> 01:27:34,524
this time.

2060
01:27:38,620 --> 01:27:38,797
Congratulations to James Tyrell

2061
01:27:38,797 --> 01:27:39,397
Ryland for being appointed to a

2062
01:27:39,397 --> 01:27:39,798
low and moderate income

2063
01:27:39,798 --> 01:27:41,798
appointment.

2064
01:27:46,904 --> 01:27:47,939
Term ending JUNE 30th 2027.

2065
01:27:47,939 --> 01:27:52,139
Would you like me to proceed to

2066
01:27:54,546 --> 01:27:55,247
low and moderate income with a

2067
01:27:55,247 --> 01:27:55,547
term ending in JUNE 30th of

2068
01:27:55,547 --> 01:27:57,547
2028?

2069
01:27:59,484 --> 01:27:59,984
Yeah.

2070
01:27:59,984 --> 01:28:00,652
>> Yes.

2071
01:28:00,652 --> 01:28:01,286
Please proceed with the next

2072
01:28:01,286 --> 01:28:01,987
You will be getting a new

2073
01:28:01,987 --> 01:28:02,454
ballot for the new term ending

2074
01:28:02,454 --> 01:28:04,454
date from staff.

2075
01:28:05,357 --> 01:28:05,791
Please do not use the 2027 term

2076
01:28:05,791 --> 01:28:07,791
ending dates.

2077
01:28:11,396 --> 01:28:12,130
You were able to select two

2078
01:28:12,130 --> 01:28:15,730
candidates from this list for a

2079
01:28:16,435 --> 01:28:17,202
date starting on JULY 1st, 2026

2080
01:28:17,202 --> 01:28:20,202
and ending on JUNE 30th 2028.

2081
01:28:26,578 --> 01:28:27,212
I would ask that you cross out

2082
01:28:27,212 --> 01:28:29,612
Scott Rodriguez and James

2083
01:28:32,651 --> 01:28:33,619
Tyrrell Roland from this sheet.

2084
01:28:33,619 --> 01:28:37,819
You MAY vote for a male Barbara

2085
01:28:39,191 --> 01:28:39,658
Rasheeda Lamar and Francisco

2086
01:28:39,658 --> 01:28:40,392
Peralta Vargas.

2087
01:28:40,392 --> 01:28:43,992
The other two have already been

2088
01:28:44,963 --> 01:28:45,697
seated and appointed to the low

2089
01:28:45,697 --> 01:28:48,970
and moderate income appointment

2090
01:28:49,334 --> 01:28:50,202
with a term ending in 2027.

2091
01:28:50,202 --> 01:28:53,802
Again, if you can please raise

2092
01:28:55,941 --> 01:28:56,675
your hand once you have

2093
01:28:56,675 --> 01:29:00,275
concluded and staff will go and

2094
01:30:47,185 --> 01:30:47,486
collect your ballots

2095
01:30:47,486 --> 01:30:48,187
.

2096
01:30:48,187 --> 01:30:48,888
>> I will now announce

2097
01:30:48,888 --> 01:30:49,555
the results of the first round

2098
01:30:49,555 --> 01:30:53,155
of balloting and one will be

2099
01:30:54,260 --> 01:30:54,961
received four votes.

2100
01:30:54,961 --> 01:30:55,261
Rashid Alomar received four

2101
01:30:55,261 --> 01:30:57,261
votes.

2102
01:30:59,980 --> 01:30:59,632
Francisco Peralta Vargas

2103
01:30:59,632 --> 01:31:00,299
received five votes.

2104
01:31:00,299 --> 01:31:00,900
Congratulations to Francisco

2105
01:31:00,900 --> 01:31:03,300
Peralta Vargas for being

2106
01:31:05,605 --> 01:31:06,720
appointed to a term ending in

2107
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:06,972
JUNE 30th, 2028.

2108
01:31:06,972 --> 01:31:10,572
We can do another round of

2109
01:31:11,677 --> 01:31:12,211
balloting for the second second

2110
01:31:12,211 --> 01:31:14,611
vacancy if you wish.

2111
01:31:16,816 --> 01:31:17,283
Council PRESIDENT.

2112
01:31:17,283 --> 01:31:17,683
>> Yes.

2113
01:31:17,683 --> 01:31:18,518
Yes, please.

2114
01:31:18,518 --> 01:31:22,118
Please be sure to cross out

2115
01:31:23,923 --> 01:31:24,590
Scott Rodriguez, James Taylor

2116
01:31:24,590 --> 01:31:26,990
Marlin and Francisco Peralta

2117
01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:29,729
Vargas on your ballots And then

2118
01:31:29,729 --> 01:31:33,329
please let us know when you

2119
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:19,372
have concluded your vote

2120
01:33:19,372 --> 01:33:21,372
.

2121
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:27,614
>> My little brother I will now

2122
01:33:27,614 --> 01:33:28,314
read the votes into the results

2123
01:33:28,314 --> 01:33:31,383
into the record And when I got

2124
01:33:31,383 --> 01:33:34,983
it I received four votes and

2125
01:33:36,589 --> 01:33:37,124
Rashid Lamar received three.

2126
01:33:37,124 --> 01:33:37,623
Nobody received five

2127
01:33:37,623 --> 01:33:38,325
affirmative votes.

2128
01:33:38,325 --> 01:33:41,828
So an appointment has not been

2129
01:33:41,828 --> 01:33:43,828
concluded.

2130
01:33:46,265 --> 01:33:47,330
Let's try one more round.

2131
01:33:47,330 --> 01:33:47,534
Staff will be I mean you

2132
01:33:47,534 --> 01:33:49,534
already have them.

2133
01:33:51,571 --> 01:33:52,338
As you know.

2134
01:33:52,338 --> 01:33:52,806
Please be sure to cross off

2135
01:33:52,806 --> 01:33:54,806
Scott Rodriguez.

2136
01:33:54,808 --> 01:33:57,208
James Tyler, Roland and

2137
01:34:04,318 --> 01:34:06,318
Francisco Peralta Vargas.

2138
01:35:34,408 --> 01:35:34,708
And please only select one

2139
01:35:34,708 --> 01:35:35,208
.

2140
01:35:35,208 --> 01:35:35,876
>> Thank you.

2141
01:35:35,876 --> 01:35:36,577
We received Emmanuel Varela

2142
01:35:36,577 --> 01:35:39,577
received two votes and Rashida

2143
01:35:40,346 --> 01:35:41,480
Lamar received five votes.

2144
01:35:41,480 --> 01:35:41,715
Rashida Lamar is appointed to

2145
01:35:41,715 --> 01:35:44,715
the low and moderate income

2146
01:35:45,119 --> 01:35:45,719
appointment with a term ending

2147
01:35:45,719 --> 01:35:46,420
on JUNE 30th of 2028.

2148
01:35:46,420 --> 01:35:46,787
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

2149
01:35:46,787 --> 01:35:48,787
All right.

2150
01:35:50,324 --> 01:35:51,910
Thank you.

2151
01:35:51,910 --> 01:35:51,424
Let's move on to the next

2152
01:35:51,424 --> 01:35:52,920
ballot.

2153
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,920
The next ballot is for

2154
01:35:55,763 --> 01:35:56,430
the At-Large appointment.

2155
01:35:56,430 --> 01:35:59,430
There are several names that

2156
01:36:00,340 --> 01:36:00,634
you will need to cross off

2157
01:36:00,634 --> 01:36:01,335
because they were just

2158
01:36:01,335 --> 01:36:01,702
appointed to other seats this

2159
01:36:01,702 --> 01:36:03,702
afternoon.

2160
01:36:05,673 --> 01:36:06,730
Kelly Rusher rusher.

2161
01:36:06,730 --> 01:36:08,730
Oh sorry.

2162
01:36:53,987 --> 01:36:54,288
I will wait

2163
01:36:54,288 --> 01:36:54,956
.

2164
01:36:54,956 --> 01:36:55,823
>> Everyone has their ballot

2165
01:36:55,823 --> 01:37:00,230
Now if you can please cross off

2166
01:37:00,930 --> 01:37:02,493
Kelly Rusher Dixon Hazard

2167
01:37:03,497 --> 01:37:03,930
Martin Gallegos Munoz Rashida

2168
01:37:03,930 --> 01:37:04,732
Lamar.

2169
01:37:04,732 --> 01:37:06,933
Those were all appointed to

2170
01:37:06,933 --> 01:37:07,267
previous seats in the previous

2171
01:37:07,267 --> 01:37:09,267
rounds.

2172
01:37:11,839 --> 01:37:13,839
Francisco Francisco Peralta

2173
01:37:16,944 --> 01:37:17,411
Vargas was not appointed.

2174
01:37:17,411 --> 01:37:19,411
>> Oh yes.

2175
01:37:21,448 --> 01:37:22,500
Francisco Peralta was appointed

2176
01:37:22,500 --> 01:37:22,783
So him as well.

2177
01:37:22,783 --> 01:37:25,783
So the options are Emanuel

2178
01:37:27,154 --> 01:37:27,588
Barrera, Michael Allen and and

2179
01:37:27,588 --> 01:37:29,588
Hemant Kumar.

2180
01:37:32,159 --> 01:37:32,593
These are trial as well as

2181
01:37:32,593 --> 01:37:32,894
Christel Van.

2182
01:37:32,894 --> 01:37:33,728
Okay.

2183
01:37:33,728 --> 01:37:37,328
And there's two open to open

2184
01:37:39,100 --> 01:37:39,834
seats please vote for two.

2185
01:37:39,834 --> 01:37:42,834
>> And the terms are starting

2186
01:37:43,471 --> 01:37:43,938
on JULY 1st, 2026 and ending on

2187
01:37:43,938 --> 01:37:45,938
JUNE 30th 2028.

2188
01:37:46,607 --> 01:37:49,607
You select two candidates from

2189
01:37:51,212 --> 01:37:53,612
the At-Large category and

2190
01:37:56,217 --> 01:37:56,918
please just hold up your ballot

2191
01:37:56,918 --> 01:38:00,518
once completed so staff can go

2192
01:39:57,873 --> 01:39:58,706
and pick them up

2193
01:39:58,706 --> 01:39:59,307
.

2194
01:39:59,307 --> 01:40:00,800
>> I will now announce

2195
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:02,376
the results of the first round

2196
01:40:02,376 --> 01:40:03,450
of balloting for the at large

2197
01:40:03,450 --> 01:40:03,445
appointment term ending JUNE

2198
01:40:03,445 --> 01:40:05,445
30th, 2028.

2199
01:40:07,616 --> 01:40:07,916
Manuela Urena received a three

2200
01:40:07,916 --> 01:40:09,916
votes.

2201
01:40:11,219 --> 01:40:11,753
Hemant Kumar due to trial

2202
01:40:11,753 --> 01:40:12,454
received zero votes.

2203
01:40:12,454 --> 01:40:12,821
Michael Allen Falcon received

2204
01:40:12,821 --> 01:40:14,821
six votes.

2205
01:40:16,358 --> 01:40:16,758
And Christel Van received

2206
01:40:16,758 --> 01:40:17,392
three votes.

2207
01:40:17,392 --> 01:40:18,250
Congratulations to Michael

2208
01:40:18,250 --> 01:40:21,250
Allen Falcon who has been

2209
01:40:21,730 --> 01:40:22,229
appointed to one seat in the at

2210
01:40:22,229 --> 01:40:24,229
large appointment.

2211
01:40:26,168 --> 01:40:26,702
One seat still remains vacant.

2212
01:40:26,702 --> 01:40:27,469
All right.

2213
01:40:27,469 --> 01:40:31,690
Let's go to a second ballot.

2214
01:40:31,673 --> 01:40:32,540
Please be sure to remove those

2215
01:40:32,540 --> 01:40:36,140
that we had before which was

2216
01:40:36,978 --> 01:40:39,378
Kellen Buckner, Arion Dixon

2217
01:40:40,849 --> 01:40:41,549
Hazard, Martin Gallegos, Munoz

2218
01:40:41,549 --> 01:40:42,184
Michael Allen who was

2219
01:40:42,184 --> 01:40:42,484
appointed in the previous

2220
01:40:42,484 --> 01:40:44,484
round.

2221
01:40:45,754 --> 01:40:46,221
Rasheeda Lamar and Francisco

2222
01:40:46,221 --> 01:40:48,221
Peralta Vargas.

2223
01:40:50,592 --> 01:40:51,260
Additionally, you MAY also drop

2224
01:40:51,260 --> 01:40:52,600
the lowest vote getter which

2225
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,197
was Hemant Kamara a troll from

2226
01:40:55,197 --> 01:40:57,197
future balloting.

2227
01:42:56,419 --> 01:42:59,419
In line with Council policy 13

2228
01:43:17,873 --> 01:43:18,574
Oh no Announce the results of

2229
01:43:18,574 --> 01:43:21,210
the second round of balloting

2230
01:43:21,210 --> 01:43:21,844
and Madeline Batra received two

2231
01:43:21,844 --> 01:43:22,144
and Christel Van received

2232
01:43:22,144 --> 01:43:24,144
four.

2233
01:43:24,413 --> 01:43:25,140
Nobody received five

2234
01:43:25,140 --> 01:43:25,581
affirmative votes so no

2235
01:43:25,581 --> 01:43:27,581
appointment has been.

2236
01:43:29,652 --> 01:43:31,520
No action has been taken.

2237
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:32,488
>> Since we saw change, let's

2238
01:43:32,488 --> 01:43:37,288
do a third round to see if it

2239
01:44:04,854 --> 01:44:05,154
makes a difference

2240
01:44:05,154 --> 01:44:05,655
.

2241
01:44:05,655 --> 01:44:07,655
>> Sure.

2242
01:44:09,892 --> 01:44:10,660
The results of the last one

2243
01:44:10,660 --> 01:44:13,620
were two for Emmanuel Pereira

2244
01:44:13,620 --> 01:44:13,896
and four for Christel Van.

2245
01:44:13,896 --> 01:44:18,960
As a reminder, the two left on

2246
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:19,502
the ballot are Imanol Pereira

2247
01:44:19,502 --> 01:44:20,169
and Christel Van.

2248
01:44:20,169 --> 01:44:23,169
All others have been removed

2249
01:45:40,884 --> 01:45:41,218
from the ballot at this point

2250
01:45:41,218 --> 01:45:41,985
.

2251
01:45:41,985 --> 01:45:42,252
>> Same results are received at

2252
01:45:42,252 --> 01:45:44,252
two.

2253
01:45:49,159 --> 01:45:49,459
And Christel Van received four

2254
01:45:49,459 --> 01:45:49,859
.

2255
01:45:49,859 --> 01:45:50,560
>> Okay.

2256
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:51,294
That's the same vote Currently

2257
01:45:51,294 --> 01:45:53,497
it's the same people voting but

2258
01:45:53,497 --> 01:45:54,164
I'm not inclined to do a fourth

2259
01:45:54,164 --> 01:45:57,164
one unless the council would

2260
01:46:01,700 --> 01:46:01,437
like to do Come on.

2261
01:46:01,437 --> 01:46:03,437
>> Okay.

2262
01:46:06,609 --> 01:46:07,310
And give it one more try.

2263
01:46:07,310 --> 01:46:07,944
Another round will go through

2264
01:46:07,944 --> 01:46:10,547
staff Will you have them?

2265
01:46:10,547 --> 01:46:14,747
As noted am I known about it

2266
01:47:44,308 --> 01:47:44,808
And Christel Van

2267
01:47:44,808 --> 01:47:45,175
am I wrote

2268
01:47:45,175 --> 01:47:45,809
about it.

2269
01:47:45,809 --> 01:47:48,547
I received one vote and

2270
01:47:48,547 --> 01:47:49,460
Christel Van received five

2271
01:47:49,460 --> 01:47:49,747
affirmative votes.

2272
01:47:49,747 --> 01:47:53,217
She is now appointed to the at

2273
01:47:53,217 --> 01:47:53,851
large appointment with a term

2274
01:47:53,851 --> 01:47:54,218
ending on JUNE 30th, 2028.

2275
01:47:54,218 --> 01:47:54,718
Thank you.

2276
01:47:54,718 --> 01:47:56,718
Council PRESIDENT.

2277
01:47:58,922 --> 01:47:59,389
All right.

2278
01:47:59,389 --> 01:48:00,124
>> Thank you.

2279
01:48:00,124 --> 01:48:00,590
Do you want to read off

2280
01:48:00,590 --> 01:48:02,990
the list of all.

2281
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:03,861
Do you want me to.

2282
01:48:03,861 --> 01:48:04,261
>> I can.

2283
01:48:04,261 --> 01:48:04,663
You can.

2284
01:48:04,663 --> 01:48:06,663
All right.

2285
01:48:07,765 --> 01:48:08,265
As a recap, thank you to all

2286
01:48:08,265 --> 01:48:08,699
the candidates for

2287
01:48:08,699 --> 01:48:09,366
participating.

2288
01:48:09,366 --> 01:48:12,366
Putting your name out there,

2289
01:48:12,703 --> 01:48:13,700
filling out the forms showing

2290
01:48:13,700 --> 01:48:13,637
up today.

2291
01:48:13,637 --> 01:48:14,400
So here's who's Martin

2292
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:16,400
Gallegos.

2293
01:48:17,775 --> 01:48:18,442
Munoz is the new representative

2294
01:48:18,442 --> 01:48:21,442
for district in the District

2295
01:48:22,546 --> 01:48:23,180
eight seat appointed to

2296
01:48:23,180 --> 01:48:23,914
the At-Large category are

2297
01:48:23,914 --> 01:48:24,215
Michael Alan Falcon and Crystal

2298
01:48:24,215 --> 01:48:26,215
Van.

2299
01:48:27,417 --> 01:48:30,417
Appointed to the low and

2300
01:48:32,422 --> 01:48:33,324
moderate income category ending

2301
01:48:33,324 --> 01:48:36,324
in 2027 is Scott Rodriguez and

2302
01:48:38,129 --> 01:48:38,963
James Terrell.

2303
01:48:38,963 --> 01:48:42,366
Roland for the low and moderate

2304
01:48:42,366 --> 01:48:42,832
income category for the seat

2305
01:48:42,832 --> 01:48:44,832
ending in 2028.

2306
01:48:46,270 --> 01:48:48,670
Rasheeda Lamar and for

2307
01:48:50,975 --> 01:48:51,676
Francisco Peralta Vargas is and

2308
01:48:51,676 --> 01:48:52,343
for the two seats in the youth

2309
01:48:52,343 --> 01:48:54,743
category Kelly Brewster and

2310
01:48:56,112 --> 01:48:56,480
Ariane Dixit have been

2311
01:48:56,480 --> 01:48:57,147
appointed.

2312
01:48:57,147 --> 01:48:57,415
And my apologies to both of

2313
01:48:57,415 --> 01:48:59,415
you.

2314
01:49:00,918 --> 01:49:01,319
I'm sure I pronounce that

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01:49:01,319 --> 01:49:03,319
incorrectly.

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01:49:05,890 --> 01:49:05,789
So again, thank you to all even

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01:49:05,789 --> 01:49:06,900
those who were not appointed

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01:49:06,900 --> 01:49:08,900
today.

2319
01:49:10,327 --> 01:49:13,327
You certainly are welcome to

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01:49:15,231 --> 01:49:15,800
either follow the vp seat Seats

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01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:16,400
do become available.

2322
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:17,101
People do leave Are they

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01:49:17,101 --> 01:49:19,501
They're going to do

2324
01:49:20,204 --> 01:49:20,604
the background check first?

2325
01:49:20,604 --> 01:49:21,305
>> Yes.

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01:49:21,305 --> 01:49:21,706
Background check is concluded

2327
01:49:21,706 --> 01:49:23,706
after this.

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01:49:25,376 --> 01:49:25,977
Once the background check is

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01:49:25,977 --> 01:49:27,979
completed my office will

2330
01:49:27,979 --> 01:49:28,746
contact you for a swearing in

2331
01:49:28,746 --> 01:49:31,746
As long as everything's good

2332
01:49:33,284 --> 01:49:33,684
with the background check.

2333
01:49:33,684 --> 01:49:34,418
All right.

2334
01:49:34,418 --> 01:49:35,119
Again, thank you everybody that

2335
01:49:35,119 --> 01:49:37,988
participated And thank you to

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01:49:37,988 --> 01:49:38,556
everybody that had the patience

2337
01:49:38,556 --> 01:49:38,956
to watch the balloting

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01:49:38,956 --> 01:49:40,956
procedures.

2339
01:49:42,226 --> 01:49:42,960
So unless there's no other

2340
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,960
comments or questions, we will.

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01:49:48,650 --> 01:49:48,366
Clerk Please introduce item 602

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01:49:48,366 --> 01:49:49,167
items.

2343
01:49:49,167 --> 01:49:49,934
>> So too is to amend sole

2344
01:49:49,934 --> 01:49:52,603
source contract for open gov

2345
01:49:52,603 --> 01:49:53,337
inc six votes are required

2346
01:49:53,337 --> 01:49:53,971
pursuant to Charter section 99.

2347
01:49:53,971 --> 01:49:57,408
If you're here I'd like to

2348
01:49:57,408 --> 01:49:58,109
speak to this item.

2349
01:49:58,109 --> 01:49:58,843
Please be sure to submit

2350
01:49:58,843 --> 01:49:59,544
the speakership to the front of

2351
01:49:59,544 --> 01:50:01,946
the room in the clear box and

2352
01:50:01,946 --> 01:50:02,647
if you are participating

2353
01:50:02,647 --> 01:50:03,314
remotely now's the time to

2354
01:50:03,314 --> 01:50:04,150
raise your hand by pressing

2355
01:50:04,150 --> 01:50:07,615
Star nine or the raise your

2356
01:50:07,718 --> 01:50:08,419
hand icon.

2357
01:50:08,419 --> 01:50:08,786
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

2358
01:50:08,786 --> 01:50:09,152
All right.

2359
01:50:09,152 --> 01:50:10,880
Thank you.

2360
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:13,688
So give staff a chance to

2361
01:50:48,125 --> 01:50:48,626
settle in

2362
01:50:48,626 --> 01:50:49,270
now Think you're

2363
01:50:49,270 --> 01:50:49,727
settled in.

2364
01:50:49,727 --> 01:50:50,428
>> Please introduce yourselves

2365
01:50:50,428 --> 01:50:52,664
for the record and let us know

2366
01:50:52,664 --> 01:50:53,970
how much time you need for your

2367
01:50:53,970 --> 01:50:53,598
presentation.

2368
01:50:53,598 --> 01:50:54,265
>> Good afternoon.

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01:50:54,265 --> 01:50:56,665
Council PRESIDENT LaCava and

2370
01:50:58,102 --> 01:50:58,703
members of the Council.

2371
01:50:58,703 --> 01:50:59,404
My name is Patrick.

2372
01:50:59,404 --> 01:51:01,872
I'm a Deputy Director with

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01:51:01,872 --> 01:51:02,574
the Department of Chair of

2374
01:51:02,574 --> 01:51:03,208
the Transportation Department.

2375
01:51:03,208 --> 01:51:06,808
And with me today is Alex

2376
01:51:07,212 --> 01:51:07,911
Osvaldo, deputy director of

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01:51:07,911 --> 01:51:08,246
the Transportation Department

2378
01:51:08,246 --> 01:51:10,246
as well.

2379
01:51:10,381 --> 01:51:10,815
Our presentation takes about

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01:51:10,815 --> 01:51:11,182
five minutes.

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01:51:11,182 --> 01:51:11,683
All right.

2382
01:51:11,683 --> 01:51:13,683
When you're ready.

2383
01:51:15,190 --> 01:51:15,720
The item before you today

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01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:16,353
requests council authority to

2385
01:51:16,353 --> 01:51:18,753
amend the city's existing

2386
01:51:19,991 --> 01:51:20,625
contract with open gov

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01:51:20,625 --> 01:51:21,326
the provider of the city's

2388
01:51:21,326 --> 01:51:23,326
cartographic asset management

2389
01:51:24,396 --> 01:51:25,163
software.

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01:51:25,163 --> 01:51:28,163
We will start our presentation

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01:51:29,634 --> 01:51:30,368
with a contract overview,

2392
01:51:30,368 --> 01:51:30,969
provide some background on what

2393
01:51:30,969 --> 01:51:31,536
cartography is and what

2394
01:51:31,536 --> 01:51:33,536
services it provides.

2395
01:51:34,906 --> 01:51:35,573
Before we outline why

2396
01:51:35,573 --> 01:51:36,241
the software is so important

2397
01:51:36,241 --> 01:51:39,510
for the city and why a sole

2398
01:51:39,510 --> 01:51:40,245
source amendment was

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01:51:40,245 --> 01:51:40,879
recommended, the department has

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01:51:40,879 --> 01:51:43,279
used open gaps cartography

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01:51:45,830 --> 01:51:45,717
software under the current five

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01:51:45,717 --> 01:51:46,117
year sole source agreement

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01:51:46,117 --> 01:51:48,117
since 2021.

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01:51:49,888 --> 01:51:50,622
The current contract has a

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01:51:50,622 --> 01:51:52,622
value of approximately $540,000

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01:51:54,492 --> 01:51:55,260
and is scheduled to expire on

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01:51:55,260 --> 01:51:55,694
SEPTEMBER 8th, 2026.

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01:51:55,694 --> 01:51:58,940
The proposed amendment would

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01:51:59,164 --> 01:51:59,865
expand would extend

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01:51:59,865 --> 01:52:02,865
the existing agreement for an

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01:52:02,968 --> 01:52:05,368
additional five years through

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01:52:06,838 --> 01:52:07,572
SEPTEMBER 2031 and add up to

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01:52:07,572 --> 01:52:08,390
approximately 659,000 for years

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01:52:08,390 --> 01:52:10,390
six through ten.

2415
01:52:11,709 --> 01:52:12,377
This would bring the total

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01:52:12,377 --> 01:52:15,377
contract value over the full

2417
01:52:15,981 --> 01:52:16,648
ten year period to

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01:52:16,648 --> 01:52:17,282
approximately $1.2 million.

2419
01:52:17,282 --> 01:52:17,815
Funding for the service is

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01:52:17,815 --> 01:52:19,815
already included in

2421
01:52:20,886 --> 01:52:23,286
the department's ongoing fiscal

2422
01:52:24,489 --> 01:52:25,223
year 27 budget with

2423
01:52:25,223 --> 01:52:25,891
approximately $119,000 budgeted

2424
01:52:25,891 --> 01:52:28,891
for the current fiscal year.

2425
01:52:29,527 --> 01:52:30,228
This ongoing base budget

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01:52:30,228 --> 01:52:33,228
allocation would have to be

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01:52:34,366 --> 01:52:37,966
amended to account for any of

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01:52:38,737 --> 01:52:39,370
the increases due to inflation

2429
01:52:39,370 --> 01:52:39,905
.

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01:52:39,905 --> 01:52:40,205
With this I hand it over to

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01:52:40,205 --> 01:52:40,706
Alex.

2432
01:52:40,706 --> 01:52:42,706
Thank you Patrick.

2433
01:52:44,900 --> 01:52:44,643
So choreograph is a

2434
01:52:44,643 --> 01:52:45,277
Transportation Department

2435
01:52:45,277 --> 01:52:47,277
Specialized Payment Asset

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01:52:48,713 --> 01:52:49,448
Management System.

2437
01:52:49,448 --> 01:52:51,848
Carter complements the city's

2438
01:52:52,784 --> 01:52:53,452
sap enterprise system and it it

2439
01:52:53,452 --> 01:52:54,151
provides specialized payment

2440
01:52:54,151 --> 01:52:56,151
engineering capabilities that

2441
01:52:58,560 --> 01:52:58,824
sap is not designed to perform.

2442
01:52:58,824 --> 01:52:59,458
What it does is it uses

2443
01:52:59,458 --> 01:53:01,858
the payment condition data

2444
01:53:03,940 --> 01:53:03,695
collected through the city and

2445
01:53:03,695 --> 01:53:04,362
Carter Graph calculates

2446
01:53:04,362 --> 01:53:06,762
the payment condition index

2447
01:53:07,599 --> 01:53:08,233
the pci and models how

2448
01:53:08,233 --> 01:53:08,901
the payment conditions are

2449
01:53:08,901 --> 01:53:11,301
expected to deteriorate over

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01:53:12,537 --> 01:53:13,171
time.

2451
01:53:13,171 --> 01:53:13,839
These engineering analysis

2452
01:53:13,839 --> 01:53:16,839
helps us determine the right

2453
01:53:16,908 --> 01:53:17,676
treatment at the right time.

2454
01:53:17,676 --> 01:53:18,377
It allows us to maximize

2455
01:53:18,377 --> 01:53:21,977
payment life and make the best

2456
01:53:21,980 --> 01:53:22,513
use of limited funding for for

2457
01:53:22,513 --> 01:53:23,115
payment maintenance.

2458
01:53:23,115 --> 01:53:25,515
The system also supports

2459
01:53:26,685 --> 01:53:27,391
the development of our annual

2460
01:53:27,391 --> 01:53:28,120
slurry seal and rehabilitation

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01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:31,720
programs as well as the long

2462
01:53:31,824 --> 01:53:32,224
range payment investment

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01:53:32,224 --> 01:53:32,925
strategies.

2464
01:53:32,925 --> 01:53:35,325
And finally using specialized

2465
01:53:36,695 --> 01:53:37,429
payment management software it

2466
01:53:37,429 --> 01:53:40,429
is consistent with the industry

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01:53:41,632 --> 01:53:42,334
practice Many cities counties

2468
01:53:42,334 --> 01:53:43,100
and state dots use dedicated

2469
01:53:43,100 --> 01:53:45,100
payment management platforms

2470
01:53:46,971 --> 01:53:47,672
because enterprise systems like

2471
01:53:47,672 --> 01:53:48,373
sap aren't designed to perform

2472
01:53:48,373 --> 01:53:50,373
payment engineering analysis.

2473
01:53:52,277 --> 01:53:52,910
Such as pci calculations,

2474
01:53:52,910 --> 01:53:54,910
deterioration modeling and

2475
01:53:56,348 --> 01:53:56,749
lifestyle lifecycle

2476
01:53:56,749 --> 01:53:57,383
forecasting.

2477
01:53:57,383 --> 01:54:00,383
And why is this important?

2478
01:54:01,953 --> 01:54:02,421
So the cardiogram is much more

2479
01:54:02,421 --> 01:54:03,222
than a database.

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01:54:03,222 --> 01:54:06,222
It serves as the engineering

2481
01:54:06,458 --> 01:54:06,992
backbone of the city's payment

2482
01:54:06,992 --> 01:54:07,592
management program.

2483
01:54:07,592 --> 01:54:10,592
It maintains all of our

2484
01:54:11,330 --> 01:54:11,897
pavement inventory, historical

2485
01:54:11,897 --> 01:54:12,498
condition assessments,

2486
01:54:12,498 --> 01:54:14,498
maintenance history and

2487
01:54:16,301 --> 01:54:17,200
provides the analytical tools

2488
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:17,636
we use to support the budget

2489
01:54:17,636 --> 01:54:18,136
development and long term

2490
01:54:18,136 --> 01:54:20,136
capital planning.

2491
01:54:21,707 --> 01:54:22,441
The platform is also integrated

2492
01:54:22,441 --> 01:54:25,441
with the city's gas environment

2493
01:54:26,450 --> 01:54:27,450
and the public facing

2494
01:54:27,450 --> 01:54:30,645
application such as sts sdk gov

2495
01:54:31,450 --> 01:54:32,170
allowing the residents to view

2496
01:54:32,170 --> 01:54:32,550
payment conditions and

2497
01:54:32,550 --> 01:54:34,550
the planned projects

2498
01:54:35,887 --> 01:54:36,755
The planned paving projects.

2499
01:54:36,755 --> 01:54:37,423
One of the key reasons we are

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01:54:37,423 --> 01:54:39,423
recommending continuation of

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01:54:40,759 --> 01:54:41,360
the current platform is timing

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01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:43,760
the city's beginning its

2503
01:54:45,397 --> 01:54:46,980
pavement condition assessment

2504
01:54:46,980 --> 01:54:46,865
this year during which every

2505
01:54:46,865 --> 01:54:49,865
street will be evaluated and

2506
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:51,637
updated pci values will be

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01:54:51,637 --> 01:54:53,637
loaded into cartography.

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01:54:54,807 --> 01:54:55,508
This is one of the most data

2509
01:54:55,508 --> 01:54:55,974
intensive engineering efforts

2510
01:54:55,974 --> 01:54:57,974
that we perform.

2511
01:54:59,879 --> 01:55:00,546
So transitioning into a new

2512
01:55:00,546 --> 01:55:01,213
pavement management platform

2513
01:55:01,213 --> 01:55:04,213
during that same year would

2514
01:55:04,850 --> 01:55:05,550
require simulating Aeneas

2515
01:55:05,550 --> 01:55:06,252
migrating of historical data.

2516
01:55:06,252 --> 01:55:08,652
Configuring Integrating a new

2517
01:55:09,422 --> 01:55:09,922
system.

2518
01:55:09,922 --> 01:55:10,588
Rebuilding some of

2519
01:55:10,588 --> 01:55:12,988
the deterioration models and

2520
01:55:14,293 --> 01:55:14,894
the treatment decision Trees

2521
01:55:14,894 --> 01:55:15,494
that we programed into

2522
01:55:15,494 --> 01:55:17,894
cartography as well as

2523
01:55:19,980 --> 01:55:19,465
retraining staff with the new

2524
01:55:19,465 --> 01:55:20,660
platform.

2525
01:55:20,660 --> 01:55:22,335
So that would introduce

2526
01:55:22,335 --> 01:55:23,340
significant operational risk

2527
01:55:23,340 --> 01:55:23,703
During one of the city's most

2528
01:55:23,703 --> 01:55:25,703
critical pavement management

2529
01:55:27,306 --> 01:55:27,973
efforts.

2530
01:55:27,973 --> 01:55:28,674
Continuing with Carter Graph

2531
01:55:28,674 --> 01:55:32,178
would avoid the cost time and

2532
01:55:32,178 --> 01:55:32,911
disruption associated with

2533
01:55:32,911 --> 01:55:33,346
migrating more than a decade of

2534
01:55:33,346 --> 01:55:35,346
payment data.

2535
01:55:37,149 --> 01:55:37,850
Historical records, engineering

2536
01:55:37,850 --> 01:55:38,584
models and system integrations

2537
01:55:38,584 --> 01:55:41,584
which ensures the continuity of

2538
01:55:42,788 --> 01:55:43,456
operations during this critical

2539
01:55:43,456 --> 01:55:45,456
condition assessment cycle.

2540
01:55:47,793 --> 01:55:48,394
>> And this is our last slide

2541
01:55:48,394 --> 01:55:48,961
and it summarizes all

2542
01:55:48,961 --> 01:55:49,662
the reasons why it was

2543
01:55:49,662 --> 01:55:52,430
recommended to go with a sole

2544
01:55:52,430 --> 01:55:53,132
source extension.

2545
01:55:53,132 --> 01:55:53,766
Open Gov As a proprietary

2546
01:55:53,766 --> 01:55:56,166
computer software that has

2547
01:55:57,936 --> 01:55:58,638
performed reliably and over

2548
01:55:58,638 --> 01:55:59,305
the past five years like Alex

2549
01:55:59,305 --> 01:56:01,705
mentioned has become deeply

2550
01:56:02,442 --> 01:56:03,740
integrated into

2551
01:56:03,740 --> 01:56:03,743
the department's business

2552
01:56:03,743 --> 01:56:04,276
processes data reporting and

2553
01:56:04,276 --> 01:56:06,276
downstream systems.

2554
01:56:08,214 --> 01:56:08,748
Replacing the platform would

2555
01:56:08,748 --> 01:56:09,415
require significant

2556
01:56:09,415 --> 01:56:11,415
redevelopment customization

2557
01:56:12,618 --> 01:56:13,219
data migration testing and

2558
01:56:13,219 --> 01:56:13,919
staff training, creating

2559
01:56:13,919 --> 01:56:16,319
additional costs and potential

2560
01:56:17,223 --> 01:56:17,924
disruptions to the field

2561
01:56:17,924 --> 01:56:18,658
operations and reporting With

2562
01:56:18,658 --> 01:56:21,580
the upcoming pavement condition

2563
01:56:21,828 --> 01:56:22,394
assessment continuity is

2564
01:56:22,394 --> 01:56:24,394
especially important.

2565
01:56:26,566 --> 01:56:27,200
For these reasons extending

2566
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:27,833
the existing agreement was

2567
01:56:27,833 --> 01:56:28,467
determined to be the most

2568
01:56:28,467 --> 01:56:30,867
practical and lowest risk

2569
01:56:31,104 --> 01:56:31,737
approach providing service

2570
01:56:31,737 --> 01:56:32,405
continuity and predictable

2571
01:56:32,405 --> 01:56:34,805
costs while avoiding lengthy

2572
01:56:35,774 --> 01:56:36,509
and complex system replacement.

2573
01:56:36,509 --> 01:56:38,909
This concludes our presentation

2574
01:56:40,713 --> 01:56:41,147
and we're happy to answer any

2575
01:56:41,147 --> 01:56:41,513
questions.

2576
01:56:41,513 --> 01:56:42,181
All right.

2577
01:56:42,181 --> 01:56:42,882
Thank you for the work and

2578
01:56:42,882 --> 01:56:43,582
thank you for the presentation

2579
01:56:43,582 --> 01:56:46,180
this afternoon and I will turn

2580
01:56:46,180 --> 01:56:46,552
it over to the office of

2581
01:56:46,552 --> 01:56:46,919
the rba for comment.

2582
01:56:46,919 --> 01:56:47,587
All right.

2583
01:56:47,587 --> 01:56:49,987
Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

2584
01:56:51,257 --> 01:56:51,758
So as you heard this is an item

2585
01:56:51,758 --> 01:56:52,458
of a request from

2586
01:56:52,458 --> 01:56:54,458
the Transportation Department

2587
01:56:54,961 --> 01:56:55,628
for the extension of a source

2588
01:56:55,628 --> 01:56:56,162
North Agreement for pavement

2589
01:56:56,162 --> 01:56:56,863
management software.

2590
01:56:56,863 --> 01:56:59,863
That contract is currently set

2591
01:57:00,990 --> 01:57:00,867
to expire in early SEPTEMBER.

2592
01:57:00,867 --> 01:57:01,767
Today that direct docket is

2593
01:57:01,767 --> 01:57:05,238
being driven by a need to avoid

2594
01:57:05,238 --> 01:57:05,672
a lapse in coverage for

2595
01:57:05,672 --> 01:57:06,372
the software.

2596
01:57:06,372 --> 01:57:08,772
While the cardiogram software

2597
01:57:10,430 --> 01:57:10,409
does provide benefits to

2598
01:57:10,409 --> 01:57:11,211
the city.

2599
01:57:11,211 --> 01:57:11,878
Our office does want to raise a

2600
01:57:11,878 --> 01:57:12,245
few procedural concerns with

2601
01:57:12,245 --> 01:57:14,245
this item.

2602
01:57:15,348 --> 01:57:15,682
First is just a concern about

2603
01:57:15,682 --> 01:57:16,483
timing.

2604
01:57:16,483 --> 01:57:18,985
While this contract has been in

2605
01:57:18,985 --> 01:57:19,551
effect for five years, our

2606
01:57:19,551 --> 01:57:20,219
understanding is that

2607
01:57:20,219 --> 01:57:22,619
transportation only began to

2608
01:57:23,989 --> 01:57:24,624
evaluate Looking for a

2609
01:57:24,624 --> 01:57:25,291
replacement in JANUARY or

2610
01:57:25,291 --> 01:57:25,558
FEBRUARY roughly six months

2611
01:57:25,558 --> 01:57:27,558
ago.

2612
01:57:29,629 --> 01:57:30,263
Additionally, it also appears

2613
01:57:30,263 --> 01:57:30,963
that the request to extend

2614
01:57:30,963 --> 01:57:31,631
the sole source agreement was

2615
01:57:31,631 --> 01:57:34,133
only made to purchasing and

2616
01:57:34,133 --> 01:57:34,901
contracting in late MAY.

2617
01:57:34,901 --> 01:57:38,501
And that sole source was only

2618
01:57:39,710 --> 01:57:39,773
approved in early JUNE.

2619
01:57:39,773 --> 01:57:40,473
It then took an additional

2620
01:57:40,473 --> 01:57:41,700
month before the item and its

2621
01:57:41,700 --> 01:57:43,700
materials were sent.

2622
01:57:43,376 --> 01:57:44,770
On one issue of last week to

2623
01:57:44,770 --> 01:57:47,677
our office for our own review

2624
01:57:47,747 --> 01:57:48,448
this timeline particularly for

2625
01:57:48,448 --> 01:57:49,182
a sole source extension really

2626
01:57:49,182 --> 01:57:52,182
doesn't provide enough time for

2627
01:57:52,719 --> 01:57:53,190
us to conduct a thorough review

2628
01:57:53,190 --> 01:57:53,887
.

2629
01:57:53,887 --> 01:57:54,688
And to that extent I want to

2630
01:57:54,688 --> 01:57:57,688
stress to both staff and

2631
01:57:58,458 --> 01:57:59,920
the administration that ample

2632
01:57:59,920 --> 01:57:59,726
lead time to review items

2633
01:57:59,726 --> 01:58:02,126
particularly when they are

2634
01:58:02,696 --> 01:58:03,363
direct docketed is crucial to

2635
01:58:03,363 --> 01:58:04,640
the city's oversight process

2636
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:07,833
and to our own ability to vet

2637
01:58:07,833 --> 01:58:08,168
items that come before this

2638
01:58:08,168 --> 01:58:08,835
council.

2639
01:58:08,835 --> 01:58:11,235
Our more significant concern

2640
01:58:13,390 --> 01:58:13,740
however, is really associated

2641
01:58:13,740 --> 01:58:14,441
with this being for courier to

2642
01:58:14,441 --> 01:58:17,441
through a sole source process

2643
01:58:17,577 --> 01:58:18,378
during the abbreviated review

2644
01:58:18,378 --> 01:58:19,790
that we did conduct we asked

2645
01:58:19,790 --> 01:58:21,815
for justification as to why a

2646
01:58:21,815 --> 01:58:22,516
sole source extension for a

2647
01:58:22,516 --> 01:58:23,115
software package is necessary.

2648
01:58:23,115 --> 01:58:25,515
As you heard, extending

2649
01:58:27,153 --> 01:58:27,721
the contract does come with

2650
01:58:27,721 --> 01:58:28,421
some price certainty.

2651
01:58:28,421 --> 01:58:28,955
It comes with some operational

2652
01:58:28,955 --> 01:58:30,955
continuity as well.

2653
01:58:31,825 --> 01:58:32,425
But we believe it is also

2654
01:58:32,425 --> 01:58:33,126
important to ensure that

2655
01:58:33,126 --> 01:58:36,126
contract terms and amounts are

2656
01:58:36,363 --> 01:58:36,963
also competitive.

2657
01:58:36,963 --> 01:58:37,664
One of the criteria that

2658
01:58:37,664 --> 01:58:38,298
transportation used to justify

2659
01:58:38,298 --> 01:58:40,698
extending the sole source

2660
01:58:41,834 --> 01:58:42,435
agreement is that there is

2661
01:58:42,435 --> 01:58:42,969
limited competition for

2662
01:58:42,969 --> 01:58:43,669
the service and that

2663
01:58:43,669 --> 01:58:46,669
the department made an attempt

2664
01:58:47,730 --> 01:58:47,607
to find a second or multiple

2665
01:58:47,607 --> 01:58:48,408
sources to no avail.

2666
01:58:48,408 --> 01:58:51,408
However, we were not provided

2667
01:58:52,111 --> 01:58:52,779
with any additional backup on

2668
01:58:52,779 --> 01:58:53,447
this attempt and if it was

2669
01:58:53,447 --> 01:58:56,447
conducted it doesn't seem to

2670
01:58:56,616 --> 01:58:57,317
have been done through official

2671
01:58:57,317 --> 01:58:57,985
procurement channels such as a

2672
01:58:57,985 --> 01:58:58,251
request for information or a

2673
01:58:58,251 --> 01:59:00,251
fee.

2674
01:59:01,321 --> 01:59:02,220
And that type of a process

2675
01:59:02,220 --> 01:59:02,689
could allow the city to see if

2676
01:59:02,689 --> 01:59:05,425
there are other vendors that

2677
01:59:05,425 --> 01:59:05,926
exist that could meet

2678
01:59:05,926 --> 01:59:06,693
the city's needs.

2679
01:59:06,693 --> 01:59:07,461
All of this puts this council

2680
01:59:07,461 --> 01:59:10,461
in a pretty difficult position

2681
01:59:10,797 --> 01:59:11,430
today because not approving

2682
01:59:11,430 --> 01:59:11,865
extension could have real

2683
01:59:11,865 --> 01:59:13,865
consequences.

2684
01:59:15,302 --> 01:59:15,969
And this contract currently

2685
01:59:15,969 --> 01:59:16,703
only runs through SEPTEMBER.

2686
01:59:16,703 --> 01:59:20,303
But the system that it provides

2687
01:59:20,641 --> 01:59:21,341
maintains the city's pavement

2688
01:59:21,341 --> 01:59:21,975
management data and that data

2689
01:59:21,975 --> 01:59:22,275
is necessary for core city

2690
01:59:22,275 --> 01:59:24,275
work.

2691
01:59:25,711 --> 01:59:26,480
At the same time we have also

2692
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:29,616
not had enough time to do a

2693
01:59:29,616 --> 01:59:30,384
full review of this item and we

2694
01:59:30,384 --> 01:59:31,510
have not seen that all

2695
01:59:31,510 --> 01:59:31,685
the city's procedures for a

2696
01:59:31,685 --> 01:59:34,850
sole source contracts were

2697
01:59:35,255 --> 01:59:35,856
fully followed which leaders

2698
01:59:35,856 --> 01:59:36,223
will see before for this

2699
01:59:36,223 --> 01:59:38,223
afternoon.

2700
01:59:40,227 --> 01:59:40,961
We do recommend that if council

2701
01:59:40,961 --> 01:59:41,528
moves to approve this extension

2702
01:59:41,528 --> 01:59:43,928
that you also request

2703
01:59:44,765 --> 01:59:45,431
the transportation Department

2704
01:59:45,431 --> 01:59:46,133
to work with purchasing and

2705
01:59:46,133 --> 01:59:49,133
contracting to conduct an rfp

2706
01:59:49,269 --> 01:59:49,903
process for other potential

2707
01:59:49,903 --> 01:59:50,537
pavement asset management

2708
01:59:50,537 --> 01:59:53,537
software and that you also

2709
01:59:53,741 --> 01:59:54,441
consider approving an extension

2710
01:59:54,441 --> 01:59:55,142
for only enough time as is

2711
01:59:55,142 --> 01:59:57,542
necessary to conduct and

2712
01:59:59,111 --> 01:59:59,880
evaluate that rfi.

2713
01:59:59,880 --> 02:00:02,880
This could potentially be two

2714
02:00:03,250 --> 02:00:03,950
years but certainly less than

2715
02:00:03,950 --> 02:00:04,585
the five year extension that's

2716
02:00:04,585 --> 02:00:05,252
currently being requested.

2717
02:00:05,252 --> 02:00:07,652
That concludes my comments.

2718
02:00:08,154 --> 02:00:08,922
I am available for questions

2719
02:00:08,922 --> 02:00:09,356
and at least for the next 15

2720
02:00:09,356 --> 02:00:10,230
minutes or so.

2721
02:00:10,230 --> 02:00:10,791
Jordan Moore is also on

2722
02:00:10,791 --> 02:00:11,458
the line from our office for

2723
02:00:11,458 --> 02:00:13,858
more specific follow up

2724
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:16,497
questions.

2725
02:00:16,497 --> 02:00:17,164
All right.

2726
02:00:17,164 --> 02:00:17,898
Thank you Charles for that.

2727
02:00:17,898 --> 02:00:20,734
With that Clark, please proceed

2728
02:00:20,734 --> 02:00:21,234
with public comment.

2729
02:00:21,234 --> 02:00:21,902
>> Thank you.

2730
02:00:21,902 --> 02:00:22,602
Council PRESIDENT Maximilian

2731
02:00:22,602 --> 02:00:24,772
Schmidt If you can please come

2732
02:00:24,772 --> 02:00:25,372
forward.

2733
02:00:25,372 --> 02:00:26,106
You'll have two minutes.

2734
02:00:26,106 --> 02:00:28,506
After that it's allegedly

2735
02:00:29,409 --> 02:00:31,409
Audrey on.

2736
02:00:34,215 --> 02:00:35,149
Hi.

2737
02:00:35,149 --> 02:00:35,816
>> I want to talk specifically

2738
02:00:35,816 --> 02:00:38,216
about the pavement downtown.

2739
02:00:39,860 --> 02:00:42,860
What is for the extra 600,000

2740
02:00:43,691 --> 02:00:44,258
dollars we're doing to upgrade

2741
02:00:44,258 --> 02:00:45,225
the pavement software?

2742
02:00:45,225 --> 02:00:48,929
I guess this new software has a

2743
02:00:48,929 --> 02:00:49,797
public website streets sd.Gov

2744
02:00:49,797 --> 02:00:53,397
where you can go and see

2745
02:00:53,466 --> 02:00:54,168
the condition of the pavement.

2746
02:00:54,168 --> 02:00:56,537
I guess that's one of

2747
02:00:56,537 --> 02:00:56,971
the things that is included in

2748
02:00:56,971 --> 02:00:58,971
the $600,000.

2749
02:01:00,808 --> 02:01:01,675
What if we took that $600,000

2750
02:01:01,675 --> 02:01:04,675
and downtown we pressure washed

2751
02:01:05,946 --> 02:01:06,380
the pavement with twice

2752
02:01:06,380 --> 02:01:07,148
the frequency?

2753
02:01:07,148 --> 02:01:11,180
I actually don't know if it if

2754
02:01:11,180 --> 02:01:11,485
the pavement downtown is

2755
02:01:11,485 --> 02:01:12,186
pressure washed.

2756
02:01:12,186 --> 02:01:15,786
I mean like a high pressure

2757
02:01:16,257 --> 02:01:16,924
washer with powerful water to

2758
02:01:16,924 --> 02:01:20,524
clean because of the lack of

2759
02:01:21,950 --> 02:01:21,796
rain and sd powerful water to

2760
02:01:21,796 --> 02:01:24,796
clean off the sidewalks which

2761
02:01:26,232 --> 02:01:26,934
are downtown as we know could

2762
02:01:26,934 --> 02:01:29,934
be pressure washed with twice

2763
02:01:30,905 --> 02:01:33,305
the frequency for $600,000 And

2764
02:01:35,444 --> 02:01:36,110
I don't want to say it's

2765
02:01:36,110 --> 02:01:36,811
shameful but hundreds of

2766
02:01:36,811 --> 02:01:39,811
million dollars for the power

2767
02:01:40,681 --> 02:01:41,382
lines underground on and

2768
02:01:41,382 --> 02:01:44,382
talking about the pavement is

2769
02:01:45,619 --> 02:01:46,287
actually very important to me.

2770
02:01:46,287 --> 02:01:46,921
I think it's what makes

2771
02:01:46,921 --> 02:01:49,924
the city the city I think

2772
02:01:49,924 --> 02:01:50,625
cleans the sidewalks is one of

2773
02:01:50,625 --> 02:01:53,625
the most important things And

2774
02:01:54,929 --> 02:01:55,595
we need to pressure wash

2775
02:01:55,595 --> 02:01:57,995
the pavement more downtown.

2776
02:01:59,667 --> 02:02:00,468
It needs to be cleaned more in

2777
02:02:00,468 --> 02:02:04,380
pressure, washed more on And I

2778
02:02:04,380 --> 02:02:04,671
propose instead of upgrading

2779
02:02:04,671 --> 02:02:05,373
the software on pressure,

2780
02:02:05,373 --> 02:02:08,373
washing the pavement more and

2781
02:02:09,177 --> 02:02:09,910
paying for water.

2782
02:02:09,910 --> 02:02:10,478
I truly believe that downtown

2783
02:02:10,478 --> 02:02:12,878
the pavement could get

2784
02:02:14,348 --> 02:02:14,982
pressurized more and there's a

2785
02:02:14,982 --> 02:02:16,982
misallocation of resources

2786
02:02:19,200 --> 02:02:19,320
regarding the actual pavement

2787
02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:20,540
on.

2788
02:02:20,540 --> 02:02:23,654
To be frank the pavement near

2789
02:02:24,358 --> 02:02:25,126
City College and the East

2790
02:02:25,126 --> 02:02:28,126
Village and some places around

2791
02:02:28,429 --> 02:02:28,696
there and 12th and Imperial is

2792
02:02:28,696 --> 02:02:29,396
on.

2793
02:02:29,396 --> 02:02:31,365
To be frank the sidewalks are

2794
02:02:31,365 --> 02:02:31,999
discussing need to be

2795
02:02:31,999 --> 02:02:34,399
pressurized more if you're

2796
02:02:36,938 --> 02:02:37,605
going to.

2797
02:02:37,605 --> 02:02:38,272
>> Thank you for that

2798
02:02:38,272 --> 02:02:38,940
concluding comment allegedly

2799
02:02:38,940 --> 02:02:39,641
Andre if you can please come

2800
02:02:39,641 --> 02:02:43,241
forward and after that will be

2801
02:02:43,344 --> 02:02:44,311
Paul Kruger.

2802
02:02:44,311 --> 02:02:47,911
>> Can I make a point of

2803
02:02:48,449 --> 02:02:49,350
information or a question How

2804
02:02:49,350 --> 02:02:50,218
can seven of you vote and only

2805
02:02:50,218 --> 02:02:53,818
six votes be tallied for that

2806
02:02:54,255 --> 02:02:54,923
last item?

2807
02:02:54,923 --> 02:02:55,223
Someone MAY have declined to

2808
02:02:55,223 --> 02:02:55,823
vote.

2809
02:02:55,823 --> 02:02:58,823
You can decline to vote.

2810
02:02:59,127 --> 02:02:59,827
Okay just wondering It's just

2811
02:02:59,827 --> 02:03:02,227
interesting Wonder who switch

2812
02:03:03,197 --> 02:03:03,865
their vote any who this is very

2813
02:03:03,865 --> 02:03:04,565
interesting because you guys

2814
02:03:04,565 --> 02:03:05,232
always you know make sure your

2815
02:03:05,232 --> 02:03:05,700
back is up against the wall

2816
02:03:05,700 --> 02:03:07,700
when we're here.

2817
02:03:08,536 --> 02:03:11,536
Push in contracts and extending

2818
02:03:13,700 --> 02:03:13,775
them And I have a question as

2819
02:03:13,775 --> 02:03:14,476
far as because of its sole

2820
02:03:14,476 --> 02:03:18,760
source I mean in San Francisco

2821
02:03:18,912 --> 02:03:19,513
with open gov there were

2822
02:03:19,513 --> 02:03:19,881
donations being made to

2823
02:03:19,881 --> 02:03:21,881
the mayor.

2824
02:03:23,651 --> 02:03:24,319
The mayor's wife was making

2825
02:03:24,319 --> 02:03:26,719
investments in this company.

2826
02:03:28,489 --> 02:03:29,224
So I would kind of beg to ask

2827
02:03:29,224 --> 02:03:29,657
the question like what's what's

2828
02:03:29,657 --> 02:03:31,657
going on here?

2829
02:03:33,161 --> 02:03:33,828
Why do you guys constantly put

2830
02:03:33,828 --> 02:03:34,529
yourself up against the wall

2831
02:03:34,529 --> 02:03:37,529
to, you know, approve these

2832
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:39,667
contracts?

2833
02:03:39,667 --> 02:03:40,401
I mean it's like why I mean was

2834
02:03:40,401 --> 02:03:44,100
there as you know, Charles was

2835
02:03:44,380 --> 02:03:44,706
saying was there due diligence,

2836
02:03:44,706 --> 02:03:45,373
the due process done to make

2837
02:03:45,373 --> 02:03:48,373
sure that there aren't other

2838
02:03:49,244 --> 02:03:49,944
companies So why are we picking

2839
02:03:49,944 --> 02:03:50,612
this one and sticking with it?

2840
02:03:50,612 --> 02:03:53,612
I just it's very interesting

2841
02:03:54,449 --> 02:03:55,417
the way you guys do business

2842
02:03:55,417 --> 02:04:00,121
And then as far as all of these

2843
02:04:00,121 --> 02:04:00,855
companies go and I and you know

2844
02:04:00,855 --> 02:04:01,589
all the data I continue to tell

2845
02:04:01,589 --> 02:04:04,359
you guys we need to be

2846
02:04:04,359 --> 02:04:05,930
concerned about these

2847
02:04:05,930 --> 02:04:05,827
monopolies these companies have

2848
02:04:05,827 --> 02:04:08,827
on government information And I

2849
02:04:10,365 --> 02:04:11,660
think we should be concerned

2850
02:04:11,660 --> 02:04:11,733
about all of our data because

2851
02:04:11,733 --> 02:04:14,733
this data has been collected

2852
02:04:15,770 --> 02:04:16,371
for years now and it's

2853
02:04:16,371 --> 02:04:17,710
something that is being

2854
02:04:17,710 --> 02:04:19,471
weaponized against the people

2855
02:04:21,142 --> 02:04:21,810
and it can be weaponized

2856
02:04:21,810 --> 02:04:22,110
against this municipality as

2857
02:04:22,110 --> 02:04:22,844
well.

2858
02:04:22,844 --> 02:04:25,844
And that's what's so terrifying

2859
02:04:26,248 --> 02:04:26,714
is that, you know, it gets into

2860
02:04:26,714 --> 02:04:27,415
the wrong hands.

2861
02:04:27,415 --> 02:04:28,149
And when you look at places

2862
02:04:28,149 --> 02:04:31,149
like China where information is

2863
02:04:32,253 --> 02:04:32,888
being used to keep people from

2864
02:04:32,888 --> 02:04:33,522
living life like even just

2865
02:04:33,522 --> 02:04:37,122
going to get gas going to

2866
02:04:37,792 --> 02:04:38,493
the doctor, going wherever, I

2867
02:04:38,493 --> 02:04:39,193
think we need to be concerned

2868
02:04:39,193 --> 02:04:42,193
about where our information is

2869
02:04:42,931 --> 02:04:43,532
going and not just be freely

2870
02:04:43,532 --> 02:04:44,231
giving it out like this

2871
02:04:44,231 --> 02:04:46,631
ignorantly believing that it's

2872
02:04:48,670 --> 02:04:48,937
going to be protected in some

2873
02:04:48,937 --> 02:04:49,671
way.

2874
02:04:49,671 --> 02:04:50,372
And so when the government gets

2875
02:04:50,372 --> 02:04:53,972
brought to its knees I'll have

2876
02:04:54,275 --> 02:04:54,875
to tell you guys I told you so

2877
02:04:54,875 --> 02:04:55,577
because you're ignoring

2878
02:04:55,577 --> 02:04:58,577
the fact that this information

2879
02:04:59,614 --> 02:05:00,480
is going into hands that it

2880
02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:00,715
shouldn't be.

2881
02:05:00,715 --> 02:05:03,715
>> Paula Kruger if you can

2882
02:05:04,586 --> 02:05:05,353
please come up.

2883
02:05:05,353 --> 02:05:08,353
>> Uh, thank you very much.

2884
02:05:10,492 --> 02:05:15,292
I just want to know I put a

2885
02:05:15,864 --> 02:05:16,732
neutral on my slip which I

2886
02:05:16,732 --> 02:05:17,432
often do and I know that was a

2887
02:05:17,432 --> 02:05:20,432
suggestion from someone and I

2888
02:05:20,736 --> 02:05:21,503
think it's an interesting one

2889
02:05:21,503 --> 02:05:25,103
but I'm here only to thank

2890
02:05:26,308 --> 02:05:26,975
Charles for his comments and

2891
02:05:26,975 --> 02:05:27,242
the work that his department

2892
02:05:27,242 --> 02:05:27,910
did.

2893
02:05:27,910 --> 02:05:28,644
I don't have any particular

2894
02:05:28,644 --> 02:05:32,244
knowledge of this issue but I

2895
02:05:32,381 --> 02:05:32,948
think that the concerns that

2896
02:05:32,948 --> 02:05:35,348
I've raised are really

2897
02:05:37,552 --> 02:05:38,253
important and really

2898
02:05:38,253 --> 02:05:41,853
significant and that I as a

2899
02:05:42,791 --> 02:05:43,492
taxpayer am really reassured

2900
02:05:43,492 --> 02:05:44,159
that we have an independent

2901
02:05:44,159 --> 02:05:46,559
office and voice reviewing

2902
02:05:48,597 --> 02:05:50,597
these processes.

2903
02:05:53,969 --> 02:05:54,670
If I'm not mistaken,

2904
02:05:54,670 --> 02:05:55,370
the departments that requested

2905
02:05:55,370 --> 02:05:58,370
this contract are overseen by

2906
02:06:00,442 --> 02:06:01,110
the mayor as the city's chief

2907
02:06:01,110 --> 02:06:04,110
executive and I think it's

2908
02:06:05,581 --> 02:06:09,181
really incumbent upon you as a

2909
02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:12,870
council to respond to Charles's

2910
02:06:12,870 --> 02:06:12,788
concerns and to get answers to

2911
02:06:12,788 --> 02:06:15,788
the questions that he raised.

2912
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:17,793
That's all And thank you again,

2913
02:06:17,793 --> 02:06:18,461
Charles, in your office for

2914
02:06:18,461 --> 02:06:22,610
your work on this and all

2915
02:06:22,797 --> 02:06:23,499
the work you do even even at

2916
02:06:23,499 --> 02:06:24,133
times we've disagreed with you

2917
02:06:24,133 --> 02:06:27,133
on the trash tax estimate.

2918
02:06:28,360 --> 02:06:28,737
And so I think that the office

2919
02:06:28,737 --> 02:06:29,471
has proved itself invaluable.

2920
02:06:29,471 --> 02:06:33,671
I see that you're going to get

2921
02:06:34,876 --> 02:06:35,244
an attorney either today or

2922
02:06:35,244 --> 02:06:35,978
tomorrow.

2923
02:06:35,978 --> 02:06:36,478
I think there's some or perhaps

2924
02:06:36,478 --> 02:06:38,478
it's the auditor.

2925
02:06:40,783 --> 02:06:41,483
I think it's the auditor But

2926
02:06:41,483 --> 02:06:42,184
I'm assuming you do have legal

2927
02:06:42,184 --> 02:06:46,288
counsel or if you need it you

2928
02:06:46,288 --> 02:06:47,560
have access to it And I just

2929
02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:47,756
want to thank you again and I

2930
02:06:47,756 --> 02:06:51,356
want to thank the council for

2931
02:06:51,727 --> 02:06:52,461
for paying attention listening

2932
02:06:52,461 --> 02:06:52,895
to what Charles office produced

2933
02:06:52,895 --> 02:06:54,895
and pursuing.

2934
02:06:58,267 --> 02:06:58,767
Thank you.

2935
02:06:58,767 --> 02:06:59,535
Thank you.

2936
02:06:59,535 --> 02:07:03,135
We've got five minute timer and

2937
02:07:03,671 --> 02:07:04,373
going to those participating

2938
02:07:04,373 --> 02:07:06,773
remotely starting with 8700 If

2939
02:07:09,945 --> 02:07:10,579
you can please unmute you will

2940
02:07:10,579 --> 02:07:13,579
have two minutes for joy.

2941
02:07:16,850 --> 02:07:16,685
Senator Yes to the First

2942
02:07:16,685 --> 02:07:18,685
amendment to contractual

2943
02:07:21,956 --> 02:07:25,556
storage with open gov Road Rose

2944
02:07:27,696 --> 02:07:27,996
Road constituents dream of

2945
02:07:27,996 --> 02:07:28,731
them.

2946
02:07:28,731 --> 02:07:32,931
It's a big priority of the city

2947
02:07:33,402 --> 02:07:37,200
to software data is a big

2948
02:07:39,809 --> 02:07:40,343
priority also So I I'm for

2949
02:07:40,343 --> 02:07:42,743
the internet and all

2950
02:07:45,414 --> 02:07:46,114
the technology it offers us so

2951
02:07:46,114 --> 02:07:49,714
I do I'm counting on there

2952
02:07:51,953 --> 02:07:52,754
having had a good track record

2953
02:07:52,754 --> 02:07:53,522
of five years work already in

2954
02:07:53,522 --> 02:07:57,122
the contract with the city and

2955
02:07:58,327 --> 02:08:02,527
as Paul Kruger said so well and

2956
02:08:03,632 --> 02:08:04,400
I'd David this is really

2957
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:08,000
important for us to listen to

2958
02:08:09,672 --> 02:08:10,339
the office of the eBay and Jody

2959
02:08:10,339 --> 02:08:11,720
Moore and everybody because

2960
02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:14,672
what they said is very valuable

2961
02:08:14,911 --> 02:08:15,611
and crucial oversight is so

2962
02:08:15,611 --> 02:08:18,611
important to contract So let's

2963
02:08:20,817 --> 02:08:21,550
do that.

2964
02:08:21,550 --> 02:08:21,917
But I am totally for this

2965
02:08:21,917 --> 02:08:23,917
contract.

2966
02:08:27,290 --> 02:08:28,240
It's a big yes on my part and

2967
02:08:28,240 --> 02:08:28,858
only one question yet Inflation

2968
02:08:28,858 --> 02:08:33,658
MAY push it up and we have to

2969
02:08:33,663 --> 02:08:34,464
come back again.

2970
02:08:34,464 --> 02:08:38,640
But do do data on inflation

2971
02:08:40,103 --> 02:08:40,770
with the software do we follow

2972
02:08:40,770 --> 02:08:41,337
inflation and then keep you

2973
02:08:41,337 --> 02:08:41,938
know, on top of that?

2974
02:08:41,938 --> 02:08:44,338
So that's the question.

2975
02:08:46,576 --> 02:08:47,343
Thank you.

2976
02:08:47,343 --> 02:08:47,944
It's going to be I've enjoyed

2977
02:08:47,944 --> 02:08:51,247
the cpi item the job of

2978
02:08:51,247 --> 02:08:52,148
the Philippine equivalent to

2979
02:08:52,148 --> 02:08:56,348
our Thank you Blair big man if

2980
02:08:57,687 --> 02:08:58,353
you can please them you Hi

2981
02:08:58,353 --> 02:08:59,550
Blair Beekman Yeah thank you

2982
02:08:59,550 --> 02:09:02,655
for the idea that offered an

2983
02:09:03,426 --> 02:09:05,826
interesting information to this

2984
02:09:09,650 --> 02:09:09,799
item and if it can be of help

2985
02:09:09,799 --> 02:09:10,466
you committee items in the past

2986
02:09:10,466 --> 02:09:14,660
week on the future of cyber

2987
02:09:14,236 --> 02:09:15,400
security issues for San Diego

2988
02:09:15,400 --> 02:09:15,738
and you're going to be our

2989
02:09:15,738 --> 02:09:16,372
future Cybersecurity policy and

2990
02:09:16,372 --> 02:09:19,372
practices are going to be

2991
02:09:20,844 --> 02:09:21,611
within the city itself.

2992
02:09:21,611 --> 02:09:22,312
You're not going to an outside

2993
02:09:22,312 --> 02:09:25,312
corporate source for the cyber

2994
02:09:25,982 --> 02:09:26,749
security issues so much you're

2995
02:09:26,749 --> 02:09:27,450
going to have someone in San

2996
02:09:27,450 --> 02:09:28,840
Diego city government which is

2997
02:09:28,840 --> 02:09:30,484
an interesting concept to

2998
02:09:33,156 --> 02:09:33,857
simply ask can the cyber

2999
02:09:33,857 --> 02:09:37,457
security keep in San Diego and

3000
02:09:38,428 --> 02:09:39,295
within city government?

3001
02:09:39,295 --> 02:09:39,962
>> Can any ideas they work on

3002
02:09:39,962 --> 02:09:42,362
towards policies and public

3003
02:09:44,333 --> 02:09:45,168
policy But cyber security can

3004
02:09:45,168 --> 02:09:45,834
be of help in any way to this

3005
02:09:45,834 --> 02:09:48,234
item because sometimes tech

3006
02:09:50,310 --> 02:09:51,107
accountability can be a great

3007
02:09:51,107 --> 02:09:51,674
help for other ideas in city

3008
02:09:51,674 --> 02:09:52,308
departments and stuff.

3009
02:09:52,308 --> 02:09:55,908
So I thought I would just

3010
02:09:56,312 --> 02:09:57,800
mention that at this time if I

3011
02:09:57,800 --> 02:09:57,747
can be of any help to

3012
02:09:57,747 --> 02:09:58,415
the questions on this item,

3013
02:09:58,415 --> 02:09:58,748
good luck in the procurement

3014
02:09:58,748 --> 02:10:00,748
process.

3015
02:10:02,452 --> 02:10:03,530
What that can work towards and

3016
02:10:03,530 --> 02:10:03,752
and good luck to tech

3017
02:10:03,752 --> 02:10:06,752
accountability can have a part

3018
02:10:08,580 --> 02:10:08,558
in it in some way towards

3019
02:10:08,558 --> 02:10:08,992
creative thinking.

3020
02:10:08,992 --> 02:10:09,359
>> Thank you.

3021
02:10:09,359 --> 02:10:10,930
Thank you.

3022
02:10:10,930 --> 02:10:13,693
Next is Hector If you can

3023
02:10:13,964 --> 02:10:14,364
please unmute.

3024
02:10:14,364 --> 02:10:14,764
All right.

3025
02:10:14,764 --> 02:10:15,699
All right.

3026
02:10:15,699 --> 02:10:19,899
A comment on this a few months

3027
02:10:20,337 --> 02:10:21,710
ago I think you should let

3028
02:10:21,710 --> 02:10:21,671
the contract expire and just do

3029
02:10:21,671 --> 02:10:24,671
that Do the road things

3030
02:10:26,710 --> 02:10:27,410
yourself in your own district

3031
02:10:27,410 --> 02:10:28,780
Like have the Girl Scouts and

3032
02:10:28,780 --> 02:10:31,678
the Boy Scouts tell you what

3033
02:10:32,616 --> 02:10:33,283
roads to do or schedules

3034
02:10:33,283 --> 02:10:36,283
problem set for another six

3035
02:10:37,753 --> 02:10:38,421
months in the future So they

3036
02:10:38,421 --> 02:10:39,122
can do those things and you

3037
02:10:39,122 --> 02:10:42,122
guys could determine what road

3038
02:10:44,594 --> 02:10:45,361
based on the community's input

3039
02:10:45,361 --> 02:10:46,162
what road should we do now?

3040
02:10:46,162 --> 02:10:47,300
It'd be good It'd be good for

3041
02:10:47,300 --> 02:10:50,600
you guys to get some brownie

3042
02:10:50,600 --> 02:10:51,234
points with your constituents

3043
02:10:51,234 --> 02:10:51,834
where they live and maybe

3044
02:10:51,834 --> 02:10:54,834
instead of him you got

3045
02:10:56,739 --> 02:10:57,407
the million dollars for this

3046
02:10:57,407 --> 02:10:57,941
contract because you already

3047
02:10:57,941 --> 02:10:58,608
got the information.

3048
02:10:58,608 --> 02:11:01,608
The roads don't change that

3049
02:11:02,112 --> 02:11:02,746
much and it's out there

3050
02:11:02,746 --> 02:11:03,346
Whatever they've done with

3051
02:11:03,346 --> 02:11:06,346
computer And we all know

3052
02:11:08,752 --> 02:11:09,360
the terrible roads where they

3053
02:11:09,360 --> 02:11:09,820
are.

3054
02:11:09,820 --> 02:11:14,200
It's not like I met and have

3055
02:11:15,192 --> 02:11:15,958
community involvement in some

3056
02:11:15,958 --> 02:11:16,493
mine to the to the Boy Scouts

3057
02:11:16,493 --> 02:11:17,160
and the Girl Scouts.

3058
02:11:17,160 --> 02:11:20,160
They drive around with their

3059
02:11:21,665 --> 02:11:22,366
parents and they know the roads

3060
02:11:22,366 --> 02:11:23,660
do with the mom stuff and

3061
02:11:23,660 --> 02:11:26,666
paying some money on the side

3062
02:11:27,404 --> 02:11:27,837
It happens Computer guys we've

3063
02:11:27,837 --> 02:11:28,672
all paid them.

3064
02:11:28,672 --> 02:11:32,709
They kind of get it in the end.

3065
02:11:32,709 --> 02:11:33,410
We're pushing it through which

3066
02:11:33,410 --> 02:11:34,760
doesn't look good And even if

3067
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:37,760
you don't renew the contract

3068
02:11:38,248 --> 02:11:38,749
it's not going to do nothing

3069
02:11:38,749 --> 02:11:39,449
for six months.

3070
02:11:39,449 --> 02:11:40,150
You know the scheduling is

3071
02:11:40,150 --> 02:11:43,750
already out there and then we

3072
02:11:44,288 --> 02:11:45,188
just focus on the next roads,

3073
02:11:45,188 --> 02:11:45,922
do it for a couple of years and

3074
02:11:45,922 --> 02:11:49,522
see how it works because it

3075
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:50,761
would be good for everybody and

3076
02:11:50,761 --> 02:11:51,328
it wouldn't be You guys can

3077
02:11:51,328 --> 02:11:53,328
make those decisions.

3078
02:11:55,966 --> 02:11:58,966
There's nine council places and

3079
02:12:00,504 --> 02:12:01,271
I would say even give the guys

3080
02:12:01,271 --> 02:12:02,500
south of eight like twice

3081
02:12:02,500 --> 02:12:05,843
the roads that you get north of

3082
02:12:05,843 --> 02:12:06,510
eight blown up you can hammer

3083
02:12:06,510 --> 02:12:06,810
that out on your own council

3084
02:12:06,810 --> 02:12:07,477
thing.

3085
02:12:07,477 --> 02:12:07,778
But anyway, thanks for your

3086
02:12:07,778 --> 02:12:09,778
time.

3087
02:12:13,550 --> 02:12:13,951
Thanks.

3088
02:12:13,951 --> 02:12:14,752
Thank you.

3089
02:12:14,752 --> 02:12:15,452
I'm out of time I to conclude

3090
02:12:15,452 --> 02:12:16,190
here in council chambers there

3091
02:12:16,190 --> 02:12:16,387
are three speakers in

3092
02:12:16,387 --> 02:12:17,870
the queue.

3093
02:12:17,870 --> 02:12:17,387
No additional speakers will be

3094
02:12:17,387 --> 02:12:18,230
taken.

3095
02:12:18,230 --> 02:12:21,230
>> Tony if you can please

3096
02:12:21,291 --> 02:12:21,692
unmute.

3097
02:12:21,692 --> 02:12:22,259
>> Yes?

3098
02:12:22,259 --> 02:12:22,558
Can you hear me?

3099
02:12:22,558 --> 02:12:23,260
Yes.

3100
02:12:23,260 --> 02:12:25,260
Please proceed.

3101
02:12:26,997 --> 02:12:27,765
Good afternoon City Council.

3102
02:12:27,765 --> 02:12:28,398
I wanted to speak up on

3103
02:12:28,398 --> 02:12:31,998
the point that was made by

3104
02:12:33,700 --> 02:12:33,470
the last gentleman that spoke

3105
02:12:33,470 --> 02:12:34,338
in chambers.

3106
02:12:34,338 --> 02:12:35,380
I'm not sure what his name is

3107
02:12:35,380 --> 02:12:35,472
but he always has really good

3108
02:12:35,472 --> 02:12:37,472
contributions.

3109
02:12:39,143 --> 02:12:39,843
He was thanking the independent

3110
02:12:39,843 --> 02:12:40,611
budget analyst and I wanted to

3111
02:12:40,611 --> 02:12:44,211
do the same and I love

3112
02:12:45,549 --> 02:12:46,160
the presentation given by

3113
02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:46,750
the city staff.

3114
02:12:46,750 --> 02:12:47,451
I love the input given and this

3115
02:12:47,451 --> 02:12:51,510
is going to sound really silly

3116
02:12:51,354 --> 02:12:52,220
but I actually had no idea that

3117
02:12:52,220 --> 02:12:52,389
we could register a neutral

3118
02:12:52,389 --> 02:12:54,389
position.

3119
02:12:57,828 --> 02:12:58,529
I don't Please please speak to

3120
02:12:58,529 --> 02:12:59,230
this If possible please let me

3121
02:12:59,230 --> 02:12:59,997
know if there's a there's not

3122
02:12:59,997 --> 02:13:04,197
like a slip in chambers So I'm

3123
02:13:04,735 --> 02:13:05,503
assuming that you just express

3124
02:13:05,503 --> 02:13:09,703
it this way vocally is how it

3125
02:13:10,307 --> 02:13:11,800
works And with regard to this

3126
02:13:11,800 --> 02:13:11,642
this particular issue, I think

3127
02:13:11,642 --> 02:13:12,376
it's interesting concept.

3128
02:13:12,376 --> 02:13:15,976
It's another thing I've said it

3129
02:13:16,247 --> 02:13:16,981
before I'll say it again I'm

3130
02:13:16,981 --> 02:13:17,414
not going to be done saying it

3131
02:13:17,414 --> 02:13:19,414
anytime soon.

3132
02:13:21,886 --> 02:13:22,486
It's so important that

3133
02:13:22,486 --> 02:13:23,860
the public attend these

3134
02:13:23,860 --> 02:13:23,753
meetings because there's

3135
02:13:23,753 --> 02:13:24,422
something to learn in all of

3136
02:13:24,422 --> 02:13:27,958
these meetings I had no idea

3137
02:13:27,958 --> 02:13:28,659
that we were even using open

3138
02:13:28,659 --> 02:13:29,326
gov and I'm like Googling what

3139
02:13:29,326 --> 02:13:32,926
it is and googling the whole

3140
02:13:33,964 --> 02:13:34,632
process of like you know,

3141
02:13:34,632 --> 02:13:36,632
storing government documents

3142
02:13:39,170 --> 02:13:39,870
and storing layouts for roads

3143
02:13:39,870 --> 02:13:40,171
and things like that zoning

3144
02:13:40,171 --> 02:13:41,380
etc..

3145
02:13:41,380 --> 02:13:45,576
So anyway just a kind of a cool

3146
02:13:45,576 --> 02:13:46,243
thing to learn about and

3147
02:13:46,243 --> 02:13:46,944
something that we should all

3148
02:13:46,944 --> 02:13:47,345
know more about as members of

3149
02:13:47,345 --> 02:13:49,345
the public.

3150
02:13:52,249 --> 02:13:52,549
So good luck with your decision

3151
02:13:52,549 --> 02:13:52,950
.

3152
02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:53,351
>> Thanks.

3153
02:13:53,351 --> 02:13:54,180
Thank you.

3154
02:13:54,180 --> 02:13:54,685
Kathleen Lippert, if you can

3155
02:13:54,685 --> 02:13:57,554
please unmute and then Judy

3156
02:13:57,554 --> 02:13:58,220
Strang is our last speaker.

3157
02:13:58,220 --> 02:14:00,220
>> Thank you.

3158
02:14:02,727 --> 02:14:03,427
Good afternoon, Council Item

3159
02:14:03,427 --> 02:14:04,161
six someone proposes to amend

3160
02:14:04,161 --> 02:14:04,862
their open government contracts

3161
02:14:04,862 --> 02:14:06,862
and Transportation Department

3162
02:14:09,233 --> 02:14:09,901
to manage the sidewalk and free

3163
02:14:09,901 --> 02:14:12,901
inventory But perhaps in my

3164
02:14:13,803 --> 02:14:14,505
limited understanding for why

3165
02:14:14,505 --> 02:14:15,206
Caltrans isn't isn't and

3166
02:14:15,206 --> 02:14:17,606
haven't been the responsible

3167
02:14:20,244 --> 02:14:20,911
party to manage pavement

3168
02:14:20,911 --> 02:14:23,311
sidewalk and tree inventory

3169
02:14:25,583 --> 02:14:26,584
Caltrans worker salaries in

3170
02:14:26,584 --> 02:14:29,584
the us are about 106,000 per

3171
02:14:30,921 --> 02:14:31,623
year well $51 per hour.

3172
02:14:31,623 --> 02:14:32,289
Given these lucrative salaries

3173
02:14:32,289 --> 02:14:35,289
and millions of dollars per

3174
02:14:37,295 --> 02:14:37,895
year, the city's stance on

3175
02:14:37,895 --> 02:14:38,531
litigation stemming from

3176
02:14:38,531 --> 02:14:40,931
streets to management and

3177
02:14:43,267 --> 02:14:44,100
managing pavement, sidewalks

3178
02:14:44,100 --> 02:14:47,100
and tree inventory why Caltrans

3179
02:14:49,807 --> 02:14:50,508
isn't already responsible for

3180
02:14:50,508 --> 02:14:51,175
the sat Additionally reporting

3181
02:14:51,175 --> 02:14:53,575
streets, sidewalks and tree

3182
02:14:54,712 --> 02:14:55,346
inventory should not be a

3183
02:14:55,346 --> 02:14:56,130
reactive complaint driven

3184
02:14:56,130 --> 02:14:59,130
process but a proactive one

3185
02:15:00,885 --> 02:15:01,619
proactively addressing

3186
02:15:01,619 --> 02:15:02,253
infrastructure issues to repair

3187
02:15:02,253 --> 02:15:05,253
is a proven strategy for

3188
02:15:07,158 --> 02:15:07,825
reducing problems and that

3189
02:15:07,825 --> 02:15:10,825
could increase more and more

3190
02:15:13,798 --> 02:15:14,499
costs of reactively addressing

3191
02:15:14,499 --> 02:15:15,198
those problems As was learned

3192
02:15:15,198 --> 02:15:18,198
when those jumping over temple

3193
02:15:19,804 --> 02:15:20,505
styles back east to avoid fees

3194
02:15:20,505 --> 02:15:21,172
or removing graffiti within 24

3195
02:15:21,172 --> 02:15:23,572
hours that prevents further

3196
02:15:25,710 --> 02:15:26,760
vandalism in the in in

3197
02:15:26,760 --> 02:15:26,677
the city.

3198
02:15:26,677 --> 02:15:27,312
The same holds true for

3199
02:15:27,312 --> 02:15:30,312
the city to ensure streets

3200
02:15:31,349 --> 02:15:32,160
sidewalks and public spaces are

3201
02:15:32,160 --> 02:15:32,650
clean and free of litter and

3202
02:15:32,650 --> 02:15:35,500
graffiti because when you

3203
02:15:37,322 --> 02:15:37,955
already have litter on

3204
02:15:37,955 --> 02:15:38,690
the streets people have a

3205
02:15:38,690 --> 02:15:42,290
tendency to just throw more out

3206
02:15:43,695 --> 02:15:44,362
there And I share Paul Kruger's

3207
02:15:44,362 --> 02:15:44,963
appreciation of the far more

3208
02:15:44,963 --> 02:15:46,963
likely less politically

3209
02:15:50,168 --> 02:15:50,702
influenced office of

3210
02:15:50,702 --> 02:15:51,369
Independent Budgets.

3211
02:15:51,369 --> 02:15:51,870
>> So thank you for his

3212
02:15:51,870 --> 02:15:52,604
comments as well.

3213
02:15:52,604 --> 02:15:55,774
Thank you for letting me speak.

3214
02:15:55,774 --> 02:15:56,274
Thank you, Judy Strang If you

3215
02:15:56,274 --> 02:15:56,775
can please unmute.

3216
02:15:56,775 --> 02:15:58,775
>> Good afternoon.

3217
02:16:01,846 --> 02:16:02,714
San Diego City Council.

3218
02:16:02,714 --> 02:16:03,514
As I was taking a look at

3219
02:16:03,514 --> 02:16:07,114
the PowerPoint I didn't at that

3220
02:16:08,153 --> 02:16:08,853
point have the aba report but

3221
02:16:08,853 --> 02:16:12,453
there seems to be some things

3222
02:16:14,125 --> 02:16:15,930
missing that the eBay showed

3223
02:16:15,930 --> 02:16:18,930
Shine a spotlight on is

3224
02:16:18,697 --> 02:16:19,431
the lack of data for the whole

3225
02:16:19,431 --> 02:16:19,864
five year period that's sitting

3226
02:16:19,864 --> 02:16:20,498
in SEPTEMBER.

3227
02:16:20,498 --> 02:16:24,980
I don't think we could go

3228
02:16:24,569 --> 02:16:25,303
forward with the vote until we

3229
02:16:25,303 --> 02:16:28,303
have more information And thing

3230
02:16:30,909 --> 02:16:31,776
that occurred to me is a model

3231
02:16:31,776 --> 02:16:32,577
that we might take a look at is

3232
02:16:32,577 --> 02:16:36,177
the counties as they call up

3233
02:16:36,348 --> 02:16:37,150
the traffic Advisory Committee

3234
02:16:37,150 --> 02:16:37,682
that's made up of community

3235
02:16:37,682 --> 02:16:39,682
volunteers each representing

3236
02:16:42,254 --> 02:16:42,954
some part of the county's five

3237
02:16:42,954 --> 02:16:43,622
super busy soil districts and

3238
02:16:43,622 --> 02:16:46,220
they collect the information

3239
02:16:48,559 --> 02:16:49,270
there at those super super

3240
02:16:49,270 --> 02:16:49,760
district level.

3241
02:16:49,760 --> 02:16:53,960
We could do the same thing here

3242
02:16:55,100 --> 02:16:55,733
in our city and collected as I

3243
02:16:55,733 --> 02:16:56,468
think Spencer suggested at

3244
02:16:56,468 --> 02:17:00,680
the city council level and make

3245
02:17:00,271 --> 02:17:01,600
quite a thorough list of what

3246
02:17:01,600 --> 02:17:04,600
roads and sidewalks need fixing

3247
02:17:06,144 --> 02:17:06,711
first And wouldn't the citizens

3248
02:17:06,711 --> 02:17:07,512
love that opportunity?

3249
02:17:07,512 --> 02:17:08,246
I can't think of an area where

3250
02:17:08,246 --> 02:17:11,846
we wouldn't care more than what

3251
02:17:12,350 --> 02:17:13,510
our streets and sidewalks look

3252
02:17:13,510 --> 02:17:13,718
like and more that would do

3253
02:17:13,718 --> 02:17:16,718
That could happen to improve

3254
02:17:17,889 --> 02:17:18,490
improve the safety around our

3255
02:17:18,490 --> 02:17:19,156
walking in our streets.

3256
02:17:19,156 --> 02:17:22,756
So perhaps we should take a

3257
02:17:23,695 --> 02:17:24,363
better look at this as they

3258
02:17:24,363 --> 02:17:25,630
call it the Traffic Advisory

3259
02:17:25,630 --> 02:17:27,463
Commission committee that they

3260
02:17:29,668 --> 02:17:30,602
have at the county level and

3261
02:17:30,602 --> 02:17:31,303
see how it works and see if it

3262
02:17:31,303 --> 02:17:32,400
has applicability to San Diego

3263
02:17:32,400 --> 02:17:35,604
City Council to do the work

3264
02:17:35,674 --> 02:17:36,408
ourselves or at least give our

3265
02:17:36,408 --> 02:17:40,800
citizens a chance to share what

3266
02:17:41,913 --> 02:17:42,347
they know because we will track

3267
02:17:42,347 --> 02:17:43,148
these streets.

3268
02:17:43,148 --> 02:17:43,749
Trust me we could give you a

3269
02:17:43,749 --> 02:17:44,249
list in each of our city

3270
02:17:44,249 --> 02:17:44,782
council district.

3271
02:17:44,782 --> 02:17:47,182
Thank you for that.

3272
02:17:47,219 --> 02:17:47,586
I share my thoughts this

3273
02:17:47,586 --> 02:17:48,190
afternoon.

3274
02:17:48,190 --> 02:17:48,654
>> Thank you.

3275
02:17:48,654 --> 02:17:49,221
And that concludes with a

3276
02:17:49,221 --> 02:17:49,588
comment on this item.

3277
02:17:49,588 --> 02:17:51,588
All right.

3278
02:17:53,725 --> 02:17:54,593
Thank you.

3279
02:17:54,593 --> 02:17:55,294
City Clerk This is an action

3280
02:17:55,294 --> 02:17:58,294
item that requires six votes.

3281
02:17:59,331 --> 02:18:00,100
I'm going to kick it off.

3282
02:18:00,100 --> 02:18:00,532
Thank you for the work to bring

3283
02:18:00,532 --> 02:18:02,532
this forward.

3284
02:18:05,203 --> 02:18:05,804
Clearly the department is very

3285
02:18:05,804 --> 02:18:08,804
happy with open gov My

3286
02:18:11,176 --> 02:18:11,943
experience using the online gif

3287
02:18:11,943 --> 02:18:12,311
maps have shown that it works

3288
02:18:12,311 --> 02:18:14,311
very well.

3289
02:18:17,416 --> 02:18:18,217
I think it's a very powerful

3290
02:18:18,217 --> 02:18:21,817
tool that public has access to

3291
02:18:23,121 --> 02:18:23,622
and I don't know if I'm

3292
02:18:23,622 --> 02:18:24,189
the biggest fan of

3293
02:18:24,189 --> 02:18:24,923
the operation side and

3294
02:18:24,923 --> 02:18:27,960
the challenges that you face to

3295
02:18:27,960 --> 02:18:28,627
do your work every day but I'm

3296
02:18:28,627 --> 02:18:29,261
certainly one of the biggest

3297
02:18:29,261 --> 02:18:29,895
fans on the council here.

3298
02:18:29,895 --> 02:18:32,295
Nevertheless the words of

3299
02:18:33,899 --> 02:18:34,566
the aba have resonated with me

3300
02:18:34,566 --> 02:18:38,766
given the fact that it was a

3301
02:18:39,471 --> 02:18:40,272
sole source before and it's

3302
02:18:40,272 --> 02:18:40,906
been proposed for a five year

3303
02:18:40,906 --> 02:18:43,306
sole source going forward.

3304
02:18:45,844 --> 02:18:49,444
So the question is not if

3305
02:18:51,784 --> 02:18:52,551
the five years but what lower

3306
02:18:52,551 --> 02:18:53,252
amount can we actually do an

3307
02:18:53,252 --> 02:18:56,252
opportunity as the as Charles

3308
02:18:58,156 --> 02:18:58,891
said to do an rfp to see

3309
02:18:58,891 --> 02:18:59,491
whether there are other vendors

3310
02:18:59,491 --> 02:19:02,491
out there that could do

3311
02:19:03,862 --> 02:19:04,663
the work, could do the work at

3312
02:19:04,663 --> 02:19:04,996
a better price to give a better

3313
02:19:04,996 --> 02:19:05,731
service.

3314
02:19:05,731 --> 02:19:08,731
I could talk about migration

3315
02:19:09,501 --> 02:19:13,101
from the open gov database to

3316
02:19:15,641 --> 02:19:16,275
their software going forward So

3317
02:19:16,275 --> 02:19:19,275
the question for staff is

3318
02:19:20,779 --> 02:19:21,447
suggested by the aba but I'm

3319
02:19:21,447 --> 02:19:21,980
not totally locked in to

3320
02:19:21,980 --> 02:19:23,980
instead of extending

3321
02:19:25,351 --> 02:19:26,510
the contract for five years to

3322
02:19:26,510 --> 02:19:26,718
extend it for two years that

3323
02:19:26,718 --> 02:19:30,318
would give you two years and

3324
02:19:31,423 --> 02:19:32,910
about three months to do an rfi

3325
02:19:32,910 --> 02:19:32,825
to identify whether another

3326
02:19:32,825 --> 02:19:33,492
vendor would be a better choice

3327
02:19:33,492 --> 02:19:36,796
or maybe open gap is still

3328
02:19:36,796 --> 02:19:38,796
the better choice.

3329
02:19:42,535 --> 02:19:44,935
Things like Question Council

3330
02:19:48,640 --> 02:19:49,342
member So it does take a long

3331
02:19:49,342 --> 02:19:50,420
time to migrate a lot of

3332
02:19:50,420 --> 02:19:53,642
the information If we were to

3333
02:19:54,213 --> 02:19:54,914
move to a different platform

3334
02:19:54,914 --> 02:19:58,514
you know the work that's been

3335
02:20:01,186 --> 02:20:01,921
put into open governance,

3336
02:20:01,921 --> 02:20:02,488
the payment management software

3337
02:20:02,488 --> 02:20:03,550
that we use it's other

3338
02:20:03,550 --> 02:20:05,550
engineering work that

3339
02:20:06,959 --> 02:20:07,426
represents years that we've

3340
02:20:07,426 --> 02:20:08,127
invested in it.

3341
02:20:08,127 --> 02:20:11,127
We're still working with open

3342
02:20:12,365 --> 02:20:13,320
guard to improve some of those

3343
02:20:13,320 --> 02:20:13,666
functionality to streamline

3344
02:20:13,666 --> 02:20:16,660
those workflows and that's

3345
02:20:18,204 --> 02:20:18,905
still an ongoing thing that

3346
02:20:18,905 --> 02:20:19,171
we're working with the vendor

3347
02:20:19,171 --> 02:20:19,872
on.

3348
02:20:19,872 --> 02:20:23,472
It doesn't make sense to to

3349
02:20:24,430 --> 02:20:24,644
abandon that work and start

3350
02:20:24,644 --> 02:20:25,244
over with the different

3351
02:20:25,244 --> 02:20:25,945
platforms because of all

3352
02:20:25,945 --> 02:20:26,245
the years that we've invested

3353
02:20:26,245 --> 02:20:28,245
to it.

3354
02:20:29,915 --> 02:20:30,783
But but certainly there the two

3355
02:20:30,783 --> 02:20:34,383
years would be sufficient to do

3356
02:20:35,955 --> 02:20:36,656
the RFIs check to see if

3357
02:20:36,656 --> 02:20:37,323
there's other vendors that can

3358
02:20:37,323 --> 02:20:38,240
perform this work And again

3359
02:20:38,240 --> 02:20:41,624
the majority of the work would

3360
02:20:42,940 --> 02:20:42,795
be making sure that

3361
02:20:42,795 --> 02:20:46,395
the migration from open go to

3362
02:20:47,700 --> 02:20:48,467
the new platform would work

3363
02:20:48,467 --> 02:20:49,102
with all of our guys and and

3364
02:20:49,102 --> 02:20:51,502
all the inventory history

3365
02:20:53,973 --> 02:20:54,439
maintenance history and

3366
02:20:54,439 --> 02:20:55,141
redeveloping all

3367
02:20:55,141 --> 02:20:55,841
the deterioration curves that

3368
02:20:55,841 --> 02:20:58,841
comes with migrating all that

3369
02:21:00,460 --> 02:21:00,813
information to a new platform.

3370
02:21:00,813 --> 02:21:01,480
Okay I know that that's extra

3371
02:21:01,480 --> 02:21:02,348
work but I think it might be

3372
02:21:02,348 --> 02:21:05,284
well worth it Or to validate

3373
02:21:05,284 --> 02:21:05,952
that open got really is

3374
02:21:05,952 --> 02:21:06,619
the best you know preferred

3375
02:21:06,619 --> 02:21:09,619
vendor for the services that

3376
02:21:11,290 --> 02:21:11,991
they execute So I'm going to

3377
02:21:11,991 --> 02:21:14,391
move the staff recommendation

3378
02:21:16,429 --> 02:21:20,290
but to extend only for two

3379
02:21:21,501 --> 02:21:22,235
years for a total of seven

3380
02:21:22,235 --> 02:21:22,969
years and with the appropriate

3381
02:21:22,969 --> 02:21:25,969
adjustment in the dollar amount

3382
02:21:27,907 --> 02:21:28,575
but move the staff

3383
02:21:28,575 --> 02:21:30,975
recommendation that only to

3384
02:21:32,578 --> 02:21:33,379
extend it for an additional two

3385
02:21:33,379 --> 02:21:33,746
years Do I need to do anything

3386
02:21:33,746 --> 02:21:35,746
else too?

3387
02:21:37,716 --> 02:21:38,418
>> There's a little more

3388
02:21:38,418 --> 02:21:40,818
information in the dollar

3389
02:21:43,957 --> 02:21:46,957
amounts Yeah we have to

3390
02:21:50,463 --> 02:21:50,964
recalculate the dollar amount

3391
02:21:50,964 --> 02:21:52,964
to be considered.

3392
02:21:56,336 --> 02:21:57,300
>> I would ask Deputy City

3393
02:21:57,300 --> 02:21:57,636
Attorney Bryan Garrity who's

3394
02:21:57,636 --> 02:21:58,304
been handling this matter

3395
02:21:58,304 --> 02:22:00,704
whether anything else would

3396
02:22:01,641 --> 02:22:01,941
need to be added to the motion

3397
02:22:01,941 --> 02:22:02,641
.

3398
02:22:02,641 --> 02:22:05,641
Certainly if this is approved

3399
02:22:08,281 --> 02:22:08,748
our office will revise

3400
02:22:08,748 --> 02:22:09,749
the resolution.

3401
02:22:09,749 --> 02:22:13,949
I believe it is You know, it's

3402
02:22:14,654 --> 02:22:15,320
an ordinance We will we will

3403
02:22:15,320 --> 02:22:15,922
revise the ordinance in line

3404
02:22:15,922 --> 02:22:16,656
with council's comments.

3405
02:22:16,656 --> 02:22:20,600
What I would ask MR. Garrity if

3406
02:22:20,600 --> 02:22:20,593
anything else is needed.

3407
02:22:20,593 --> 02:22:21,260
>> Good afternoon.

3408
02:22:21,260 --> 02:22:23,660
Council Deputy City Attorney

3409
02:22:26,320 --> 02:22:26,632
Ryan Garrity Yes.

3410
02:22:26,632 --> 02:22:27,334
Council Member Currently

3411
02:22:27,334 --> 02:22:30,334
the backup materials include a

3412
02:22:31,237 --> 02:22:31,905
signed amendment from open gov

3413
02:22:31,905 --> 02:22:32,472
under the current terms that

3414
02:22:32,472 --> 02:22:34,872
were based on staff's

3415
02:22:37,344 --> 02:22:38,770
recommendation in order to

3416
02:22:38,770 --> 02:22:38,712
effectuate the two year term we

3417
02:22:38,712 --> 02:22:39,446
would have to revise that

3418
02:22:39,446 --> 02:22:42,849
amendment and have it agreed to

3419
02:22:42,849 --> 02:22:43,515
by open gov.

3420
02:22:43,515 --> 02:22:44,184
I don't believe they've had

3421
02:22:44,184 --> 02:22:47,184
the benefit of this current

3422
02:22:48,154 --> 02:22:48,855
discussion so I don't know if I

3423
02:22:48,855 --> 02:22:49,556
don't know at this time if

3424
02:22:49,556 --> 02:22:52,556
those terms are acceptable to

3425
02:22:53,526 --> 02:22:54,227
open go but they would have to

3426
02:22:54,227 --> 02:22:54,828
accept them in order to revise

3427
02:22:54,828 --> 02:22:57,228
the amendment to then

3428
02:23:00,300 --> 02:23:00,967
incorporate the two year term

3429
02:23:00,967 --> 02:23:01,668
rather than a five year term

3430
02:23:01,668 --> 02:23:05,268
And that wouldn't be a problem

3431
02:23:05,705 --> 02:23:06,306
in meeting the SEPTEMBER or

3432
02:23:06,306 --> 02:23:07,390
SEPTEMBER expiration of

3433
02:23:07,390 --> 02:23:10,390
the current five year contract.

3434
02:23:12,450 --> 02:23:12,712
We could revise the ordinance

3435
02:23:12,712 --> 02:23:13,381
based on the direction today

3436
02:23:13,381 --> 02:23:16,981
and seek to have the updated

3437
02:23:18,117 --> 02:23:18,885
amendment document from open

3438
02:23:18,885 --> 02:23:19,419
gov as soon as possible to meet

3439
02:23:19,419 --> 02:23:19,986
council's authority.

3440
02:23:19,986 --> 02:23:21,986
Essentially council is

3441
02:23:24,240 --> 02:23:24,725
authorizing the Mayor to sign

3442
02:23:24,725 --> 02:23:28,325
an amendment for a two year

3443
02:23:29,329 --> 02:23:29,996
extension to the contract and

3444
02:23:29,996 --> 02:23:30,630
based on the dollar amounts

3445
02:23:30,630 --> 02:23:31,164
that staff have listed in

3446
02:23:31,164 --> 02:23:33,564
the staff report for

3447
02:23:34,568 --> 02:23:34,870
the corresponding fiscal years

3448
02:23:34,870 --> 02:23:35,268
.

3449
02:23:35,268 --> 02:23:35,902
>> Okay.

3450
02:23:35,902 --> 02:23:36,602
i appreciate that and I

3451
02:23:36,602 --> 02:23:40,202
probably don't need to say it

3452
02:23:41,308 --> 02:23:41,908
that I'm going to this is

3453
02:23:41,908 --> 02:23:42,609
obviously the difficult

3454
02:23:42,609 --> 02:23:45,609
position but council in coming

3455
02:23:45,712 --> 02:23:46,580
in at the last minute with a

3456
02:23:46,580 --> 02:23:47,314
fine fine and it's like I don't

3457
02:23:47,314 --> 02:23:51,351
know what I'm doing here And so

3458
02:23:51,351 --> 02:23:52,219
I don't know if my colleagues

3459
02:23:52,219 --> 02:23:52,919
will agree to that to you but

3460
02:23:52,919 --> 02:23:56,519
that's the motion I'm going to

3461
02:23:57,324 --> 02:23:58,580
put on the table for now And

3462
02:23:58,580 --> 02:23:58,458
we'll go next to Council member

3463
02:23:58,458 --> 02:24:00,458
Eagle River.

3464
02:24:02,496 --> 02:24:04,965
>> I think you guys PRESIDENT

3465
02:24:04,965 --> 02:24:07,965
Appreciate the flag coming over

3466
02:24:11,171 --> 02:24:11,905
and the comments there can you

3467
02:24:11,905 --> 02:24:12,639
I think I think council present

3468
02:24:12,639 --> 02:24:16,610
got a little bit of the answer

3469
02:24:16,610 --> 02:24:19,610
here but my understanding that

3470
02:24:21,480 --> 02:24:23,448
this process wasn't started

3471
02:24:26,253 --> 02:24:26,954
earlier because the belief in

3472
02:24:26,954 --> 02:24:29,954
that switching to a different

3473
02:24:30,524 --> 02:24:34,124
provider would just be too too

3474
02:24:35,529 --> 02:24:36,196
burdensome for the city.

3475
02:24:36,196 --> 02:24:36,562
Well, thank you for your

3476
02:24:36,562 --> 02:24:37,264
question.

3477
02:24:37,264 --> 02:24:37,964
So the department's goal is to

3478
02:24:37,964 --> 02:24:40,964
start the process usually for

3479
02:24:41,568 --> 02:24:42,168
all contracts that expire 9 to

3480
02:24:42,168 --> 02:24:42,636
12 months prior to their

3481
02:24:42,636 --> 02:24:44,636
expiration date.

3482
02:24:46,506 --> 02:24:47,207
So in this case we started

3483
02:24:47,207 --> 02:24:50,807
the process in JANUARY and we

3484
02:24:51,345 --> 02:24:52,460
we worked extensively with

3485
02:24:52,460 --> 02:24:52,646
purchasing and contracting and

3486
02:24:52,646 --> 02:24:55,460
the vendor to determine

3487
02:24:57,551 --> 02:24:58,285
the best course of action and

3488
02:24:58,285 --> 02:24:58,953
it was the ticket And I'm going

3489
02:24:58,953 --> 02:24:59,653
to jump right there because

3490
02:24:59,653 --> 02:25:01,788
this is where I'm starting to

3491
02:25:01,788 --> 02:25:02,589
get confused because the vendor

3492
02:25:02,589 --> 02:25:06,189
piece and there doesn't have to

3493
02:25:06,827 --> 02:25:07,528
be anything wrong But but that

3494
02:25:07,528 --> 02:25:10,528
baked into that answer sounds

3495
02:25:11,765 --> 02:25:12,499
to be it seems to be a

3496
02:25:12,499 --> 02:25:15,499
presumption that we're going to

3497
02:25:21,800 --> 02:25:21,775
use the same vendor.

3498
02:25:21,775 --> 02:25:22,642
Am I missing something there?

3499
02:25:22,642 --> 02:25:26,460
It might have come across this

3500
02:25:26,460 --> 02:25:29,646
way since I summarized all of

3501
02:25:30,180 --> 02:25:30,651
our processes but we determined

3502
02:25:30,651 --> 02:25:31,385
first that it was the best

3503
02:25:31,385 --> 02:25:34,521
course of action to go with a

3504
02:25:34,521 --> 02:25:35,890
sole source agreement amendment

3505
02:25:35,890 --> 02:25:35,789
before reaching out to

3506
02:25:35,789 --> 02:25:39,293
the vendor to discuss it in a

3507
02:25:39,293 --> 02:25:41,293
more detail.

3508
02:25:45,299 --> 02:25:45,999
What factors determined that it

3509
02:25:45,999 --> 02:25:49,599
was the best course of action

3510
02:25:49,602 --> 02:25:50,538
to go with the sole source?

3511
02:25:50,538 --> 02:25:54,738
>> I would have to get back to

3512
02:25:55,442 --> 02:25:56,143
you on the details but in in

3513
02:25:56,143 --> 02:25:56,844
the short it is summarized in

3514
02:25:56,844 --> 02:25:57,411
our sole source memo that was

3515
02:25:57,411 --> 02:25:59,411
approved by purchasing

3516
02:25:59,780 --> 02:26:00,448
contracting and we can if it's

3517
02:26:00,448 --> 02:26:01,148
not attached to this item we

3518
02:26:01,148 --> 02:26:03,548
can certainly provide that

3519
02:26:06,319 --> 02:26:06,987
document just because it looks

3520
02:26:06,987 --> 02:26:09,987
like our interim director of

3521
02:26:11,558 --> 02:26:11,959
transportation would like to

3522
02:26:11,959 --> 02:26:12,492
hop in here.

3523
02:26:12,492 --> 02:26:13,194
>> Good afternoon.

3524
02:26:13,194 --> 02:26:14,928
Larry Chavis, interim director

3525
02:26:14,928 --> 02:26:15,696
for Transportation Department.

3526
02:26:15,696 --> 02:26:16,397
And just to emphasize that this

3527
02:26:16,397 --> 02:26:19,397
has been in collaboration with

3528
02:26:19,634 --> 02:26:20,340
purchasing and contracting.

3529
02:26:20,340 --> 02:26:20,334
Got it.

3530
02:26:20,334 --> 02:26:20,701
Yes.

3531
02:26:20,701 --> 02:26:21,102
Thank you.

3532
02:26:21,102 --> 02:26:22,236
Thank you.

3533
02:26:22,236 --> 02:26:25,836
I think what we're I'm trying

3534
02:26:27,341 --> 02:26:30,341
to what I'm trying to

3535
02:26:36,550 --> 02:26:37,251
understand I guess is what

3536
02:26:37,251 --> 02:26:39,651
keeps the process competitive

3537
02:26:41,956 --> 02:26:42,456
after a vendor has secured a

3538
02:26:42,456 --> 02:26:44,456
contract with us.

3539
02:26:46,661 --> 02:26:49,661
In other words, if we're

3540
02:26:54,302 --> 02:26:55,100
telling the outside world

3541
02:26:55,100 --> 02:26:55,703
the folks who are supposed to

3542
02:26:55,703 --> 02:26:56,403
be competing for business with

3543
02:26:56,403 --> 02:26:59,674
the city that if they can just

3544
02:26:59,674 --> 02:27:00,408
get their foot in the door with

3545
02:27:00,408 --> 02:27:01,509
us that the city's not going to

3546
02:27:01,509 --> 02:27:05,109
be interested in going in a

3547
02:27:06,314 --> 02:27:07,382
different direction.

3548
02:27:07,382 --> 02:27:11,582
Why would they ever work to be

3549
02:27:13,221 --> 02:27:13,920
competitive to make sure that

3550
02:27:13,920 --> 02:27:14,622
we're happy and this isn't had

3551
02:27:14,622 --> 02:27:15,757
has had actually nothing to do

3552
02:27:15,757 --> 02:27:16,457
it open what I'm just I feel

3553
02:27:16,457 --> 02:27:19,457
like I'm seeing real process

3554
02:27:21,429 --> 02:27:22,130
flags and you know it's not

3555
02:27:22,130 --> 02:27:22,797
the first time it's popped up

3556
02:27:22,797 --> 02:27:25,797
but it just everything that

3557
02:27:25,867 --> 02:27:26,600
Charles just mentioned and some

3558
02:27:26,600 --> 02:27:30,200
of the responses to what's been

3559
02:27:30,905 --> 02:27:31,572
raised is making those flags

3560
02:27:31,572 --> 02:27:34,572
fly higher and look brighter

3561
02:27:36,778 --> 02:27:37,612
than ever before.

3562
02:27:37,612 --> 02:27:38,246
>> Thank you for the question.

3563
02:27:38,246 --> 02:27:40,246
Councilmember Julio Rivera

3564
02:27:40,314 --> 02:27:40,982
Claudio Baka, director of

3565
02:27:40,982 --> 02:27:41,649
Purchasing and Contracting.

3566
02:27:41,649 --> 02:27:44,649
So with every procurement we

3567
02:27:44,986 --> 02:27:45,553
typically as the contract is

3568
02:27:45,553 --> 02:27:46,187
about to sunset, each

3569
02:27:46,187 --> 02:27:48,587
department needs to assess

3570
02:27:49,490 --> 02:27:50,191
whether or not they need an

3571
02:27:50,191 --> 02:27:52,591
additional contract to replace

3572
02:27:53,861 --> 02:27:54,561
that.

3573
02:27:54,561 --> 02:27:55,430
When they are doing that

3574
02:27:55,430 --> 02:27:59,330
typically we will put it out to

3575
02:27:59,330 --> 02:27:59,701
bid again for instances with

3576
02:27:59,701 --> 02:28:01,701
software because technology

3577
02:28:03,405 --> 02:28:04,238
changes so quickly.

3578
02:28:04,238 --> 02:28:07,238
There is there is an

3579
02:28:08,510 --> 02:28:09,100
opportunity to go out and see

3580
02:28:09,100 --> 02:28:09,477
what else is in

3581
02:28:09,477 --> 02:28:10,111
the marketplace.

3582
02:28:10,111 --> 02:28:13,470
At minimum we would do a

3583
02:28:13,470 --> 02:28:13,748
request for information.

3584
02:28:13,748 --> 02:28:14,482
The request for information at

3585
02:28:14,482 --> 02:28:18,820
least allows us to see what's

3586
02:28:18,186 --> 02:28:18,887
in the marketplace and given

3587
02:28:18,887 --> 02:28:21,887
the needs that are identified

3588
02:28:23,525 --> 02:28:24,225
by the Department, if there are

3589
02:28:24,225 --> 02:28:27,825
respondents to the rfp then we

3590
02:28:27,896 --> 02:28:28,596
would then issue a request for

3591
02:28:28,596 --> 02:28:29,130
proposals and do a full blown

3592
02:28:29,130 --> 02:28:31,130
procurement process.

3593
02:28:32,734 --> 02:28:33,468
But we should be doing open

3594
02:28:33,468 --> 02:28:36,468
procurement any time a contract

3595
02:28:37,138 --> 02:28:37,605
is due to expire.

3596
02:28:37,605 --> 02:28:39,605
>> I agree.

3597
02:28:46,915 --> 02:28:47,481
So so what happened here?

3598
02:28:47,481 --> 02:28:48,249
>> All right.

3599
02:28:48,249 --> 02:28:51,849
I'll turn it over to you.

3600
02:28:52,119 --> 02:28:54,119
Naomi.

3601
02:28:56,458 --> 02:28:57,225
>> Councilmember Ella Rivera If

3602
02:28:57,225 --> 02:28:57,926
I MAY add a staff shared

3603
02:28:57,926 --> 02:29:00,695
earlier in the presentation it

3604
02:29:00,695 --> 02:29:01,960
a lot of it had to do with

3605
02:29:01,960 --> 02:29:03,960
the timing.

3606
02:29:05,333 --> 02:29:06,000
This council approved

3607
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:06,735
the follow up to the payment

3608
02:29:06,735 --> 02:29:09,135
condition assessment which it's

3609
02:29:09,938 --> 02:29:10,438
a best market practice to do

3610
02:29:10,438 --> 02:29:11,139
every four years.

3611
02:29:11,139 --> 02:29:14,739
This would be the fourth year

3612
02:29:14,876 --> 02:29:15,577
It was critical to have

3613
02:29:15,577 --> 02:29:16,144
comparative comparable data to

3614
02:29:16,144 --> 02:29:19,144
be able to really see

3615
02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:20,649
the condition of our roads and

3616
02:29:20,649 --> 02:29:21,349
have an apples to apples

3617
02:29:21,349 --> 02:29:23,749
comparison from the assessment

3618
02:29:24,852 --> 02:29:25,554
that was done in 2023 I believe

3619
02:29:25,554 --> 02:29:29,491
to the one that we're we'll be

3620
02:29:29,491 --> 02:29:29,791
taking place this fiscal year

3621
02:29:29,791 --> 02:29:30,758
2027.

3622
02:29:30,758 --> 02:29:31,526
So now we just to make sure I

3623
02:29:31,526 --> 02:29:34,526
understand that part In other

3624
02:29:34,662 --> 02:29:35,263
words, if I'm hearing you

3625
02:29:35,263 --> 02:29:37,263
right, council assigned

3626
02:29:38,833 --> 02:29:39,534
the department work

3627
02:29:39,534 --> 02:29:42,534
the assessment and with that

3628
02:29:44,339 --> 02:29:44,773
assignment came the need for

3629
02:29:44,773 --> 02:29:45,507
the software.

3630
02:29:45,507 --> 02:29:45,907
But do we not need the software

3631
02:29:45,907 --> 02:29:47,907
either way?

3632
02:29:48,777 --> 02:29:49,211
So the need for the software

3633
02:29:49,211 --> 02:29:51,211
would remain.

3634
02:29:53,715 --> 02:29:54,382
However, it is beneficial to

3635
02:29:54,382 --> 02:29:57,382
have the same provider of

3636
02:29:58,553 --> 02:29:59,255
the of the assessment or

3637
02:29:59,255 --> 02:29:59,855
cartography in this in this

3638
02:29:59,855 --> 02:30:02,855
example to have the best

3639
02:30:03,725 --> 02:30:04,392
comparison, the best data sets

3640
02:30:04,392 --> 02:30:05,600
and the best information for

3641
02:30:05,600 --> 02:30:08,600
the assessment that will be

3642
02:30:08,330 --> 02:30:08,630
presented to council.

3643
02:30:08,630 --> 02:30:09,298
Right.

3644
02:30:09,298 --> 02:30:09,998
Which brings me back to

3645
02:30:09,998 --> 02:30:13,368
the other point though If that

3646
02:30:13,368 --> 02:30:16,968
is the city's position then are

3647
02:30:17,439 --> 02:30:18,139
we incentivizing

3648
02:30:18,139 --> 02:30:18,807
competitiveness from our our

3649
02:30:18,807 --> 02:30:21,207
vendors especially once they

3650
02:30:23,278 --> 02:30:23,545
get the initial contract with

3651
02:30:23,545 --> 02:30:25,545
us?

3652
02:30:28,282 --> 02:30:29,184
So need for the department will

3653
02:30:29,184 --> 02:30:29,852
need for this year if it makes

3654
02:30:29,852 --> 02:30:32,252
sense or the recommendation

3655
02:30:33,288 --> 02:30:36,888
would have been the sole source

3656
02:30:38,930 --> 02:30:38,759
And just just given the follow

3657
02:30:38,759 --> 02:30:41,759
up to the pavement condition

3658
02:30:42,764 --> 02:30:43,432
assessment it would have been

3659
02:30:43,432 --> 02:30:46,432
based on the challenges that

3660
02:30:47,336 --> 02:30:48,370
that staff presented earlier

3661
02:30:48,370 --> 02:30:51,370
And besides the migration and

3662
02:30:51,873 --> 02:30:52,574
everything it's it's it's it's

3663
02:30:52,574 --> 02:30:54,974
really having the data

3664
02:30:57,120 --> 02:30:57,713
the continuity the same

3665
02:30:57,713 --> 02:30:58,613
degradation of the curves and

3666
02:30:58,613 --> 02:31:02,213
all of the assessments that we

3667
02:31:05,870 --> 02:31:05,787
had in 2023 and using current

3668
02:31:05,787 --> 02:31:06,155
assessment of the roads for

3669
02:31:06,155 --> 02:31:08,155
this year.

3670
02:31:10,792 --> 02:31:11,493
Yeah I understand that I don't

3671
02:31:11,493 --> 02:31:11,827
I don't want to go into

3672
02:31:11,827 --> 02:31:12,494
circles.

3673
02:31:12,494 --> 02:31:14,797
I just I think what I'm what

3674
02:31:14,797 --> 02:31:15,597
I'm concerned about is again

3675
02:31:15,597 --> 02:31:19,197
that once we have a certain

3676
02:31:19,568 --> 02:31:20,336
contractor do an assessment and

3677
02:31:20,336 --> 02:31:23,936
doesn't doesn't have to just be

3678
02:31:24,306 --> 02:31:27,906
a roads once they start doing

3679
02:31:28,210 --> 02:31:28,911
work in our city this is not

3680
02:31:28,911 --> 02:31:32,511
the first time I've heard that

3681
02:31:33,480 --> 02:31:33,716
that moving And it's not just

3682
02:31:33,716 --> 02:31:35,716
transportation either moving

3683
02:31:37,453 --> 02:31:38,220
work to a different software

3684
02:31:38,220 --> 02:31:41,220
platform or provider would be

3685
02:31:42,291 --> 02:31:42,992
an enormous undertaking And I

3686
02:31:42,992 --> 02:31:46,361
want to know what the city is

3687
02:31:46,361 --> 02:31:47,162
doing earlier on in

3688
02:31:47,162 --> 02:31:50,762
the processes to protect us and

3689
02:31:51,767 --> 02:31:54,767
protect our resources so that

3690
02:31:56,806 --> 02:31:57,406
the inconvenience of of another

3691
02:31:57,406 --> 02:31:59,806
option doesn't create an

3692
02:32:01,376 --> 02:32:01,944
environment where we're not

3693
02:32:01,944 --> 02:32:02,311
getting the best price

3694
02:32:02,311 --> 02:32:03,120
possible.

3695
02:32:03,120 --> 02:32:03,312
So that's where I'm going with

3696
02:32:03,312 --> 02:32:05,312
that.

3697
02:32:06,382 --> 02:32:06,721
I appreciate the responses.

3698
02:32:06,721 --> 02:32:08,721
Charles.

3699
02:32:10,152 --> 02:32:13,752
Thank you again for um for

3700
02:32:15,357 --> 02:32:17,757
flagging this to council

3701
02:32:20,620 --> 02:32:21,300
residents Point not an ideal

3702
02:32:21,300 --> 02:32:25,230
position to be in today Um but

3703
02:32:25,334 --> 02:32:27,937
I do I do think it's important

3704
02:32:27,937 --> 02:32:30,937
to understand what is is

3705
02:32:33,876 --> 02:32:34,577
changing in terms of um at this

3706
02:32:34,577 --> 02:32:35,344
point we should and we should

3707
02:32:35,344 --> 02:32:38,180
know which sort of contracts

3708
02:32:38,180 --> 02:32:38,880
are most likely to end up in

3709
02:32:38,880 --> 02:32:41,880
these sort of situations and

3710
02:32:42,952 --> 02:32:43,652
take measures earlier on to

3711
02:32:43,652 --> 02:32:47,252
provide the city with as many

3712
02:32:47,990 --> 02:32:48,758
options as possible And if

3713
02:32:48,758 --> 02:32:51,758
the best decision is ultimately

3714
02:32:53,396 --> 02:32:56,396
to continue with the provider

3715
02:32:57,900 --> 02:32:58,768
that we're using, great.

3716
02:32:58,768 --> 02:33:02,368
But let's make sure that that's

3717
02:33:02,738 --> 02:33:05,738
earned rather than a default

3718
02:33:06,976 --> 02:33:07,642
out of that you know, because

3719
02:33:07,642 --> 02:33:10,642
it seems more convenient or

3720
02:33:11,914 --> 02:33:12,582
because the switch would be

3721
02:33:12,582 --> 02:33:13,749
untenable given the timeline

3722
02:33:13,749 --> 02:33:15,749
that that's provided.

3723
02:33:19,255 --> 02:33:19,889
So um I'll second the motion

3724
02:33:19,889 --> 02:33:22,289
but not particularly happy

3725
02:33:23,859 --> 02:33:24,260
about how we ended up here.

3726
02:33:24,260 --> 02:33:24,894
All right.

3727
02:33:24,894 --> 02:33:27,294
Thank you Council members.

3728
02:33:29,265 --> 02:33:29,866
So we have a motion by myself

3729
02:33:29,866 --> 02:33:32,866
that is was displayed on

3730
02:33:32,969 --> 02:33:33,703
the screen which is to move

3731
02:33:33,703 --> 02:33:34,537
the staff recommendation except

3732
02:33:34,537 --> 02:33:38,341
to do it for a two year

3733
02:33:38,341 --> 02:33:39,750
extension and second by

3734
02:33:39,750 --> 02:33:42,750
yourself and I'll quickly throw

3735
02:33:43,179 --> 02:33:43,913
in because I don't like to put

3736
02:33:43,913 --> 02:33:44,613
them in motions that this would

3737
02:33:44,613 --> 02:33:47,613
require the department to move

3738
02:33:47,984 --> 02:33:48,318
forward either with an rfi or

3739
02:33:48,318 --> 02:33:49,520
an rfp.

3740
02:33:49,520 --> 02:33:51,119
We'll leave that in your hands.

3741
02:33:51,119 --> 02:33:55,919
I see co two there in the back

3742
02:33:55,924 --> 02:33:56,993
is nodding yes.

3743
02:33:56,993 --> 02:33:57,627
So with that I will now go to

3744
02:33:57,627 --> 02:33:59,627
Councilmember Van Wolpert.

3745
02:34:00,964 --> 02:34:01,831
Thank you very much.

3746
02:34:01,831 --> 02:34:05,431
Um I have some questions about

3747
02:34:06,169 --> 02:34:07,360
the software itself to uh one

3748
02:34:07,360 --> 02:34:10,339
I'm glad that we are doing our

3749
02:34:10,339 --> 02:34:11,240
pavement condition assessment

3750
02:34:11,240 --> 02:34:11,975
as we should be and we actually

3751
02:34:11,975 --> 02:34:14,975
have a pavement management plan

3752
02:34:15,411 --> 02:34:16,179
that did not exist before many

3753
02:34:16,179 --> 02:34:17,130
of us were up on this dais.

3754
02:34:17,130 --> 02:34:20,249
Now funding it is a different

3755
02:34:20,249 --> 02:34:21,170
challenge of course where you

3756
02:34:21,170 --> 02:34:21,751
can only do as much paving as

3757
02:34:21,751 --> 02:34:24,354
the city budget can support but

3758
02:34:24,354 --> 02:34:24,920
at least we know what we're

3759
02:34:24,920 --> 02:34:25,789
supposed to be doing.

3760
02:34:25,789 --> 02:34:29,389
One question I have though is

3761
02:34:29,759 --> 02:34:33,359
did do we know our districts

3762
02:34:34,970 --> 02:34:34,831
really well and I know for

3763
02:34:34,831 --> 02:34:35,465
example the Karl Mountain Ranch

3764
02:34:35,465 --> 02:34:39,100
Road in my district was an

3765
02:34:39,100 --> 02:34:39,568
absolute disaster and people

3766
02:34:39,568 --> 02:34:40,203
were getting potholes.

3767
02:34:40,203 --> 02:34:43,803
We ended up going to close

3768
02:34:44,400 --> 02:34:44,774
session and paying out I think

3769
02:34:44,774 --> 02:34:45,400
$600,000 for an injury crash on

3770
02:34:45,400 --> 02:34:47,400
it.

3771
02:34:48,745 --> 02:34:49,412
That happened again.

3772
02:34:49,412 --> 02:34:50,790
Rancho Bernardo wrote about

3773
02:34:50,790 --> 02:34:53,790
Arts Center Drive I've been

3774
02:34:53,349 --> 02:34:54,500
telling the mayor's staff for

3775
02:34:54,500 --> 02:34:54,417
two years that this road is

3776
02:34:54,417 --> 02:34:56,417
horrible.

3777
02:34:58,421 --> 02:34:59,189
It needs to be fixed.

3778
02:34:59,189 --> 02:34:59,922
The contractor was a mess and

3779
02:34:59,922 --> 02:35:00,824
we just went to close session.

3780
02:35:00,824 --> 02:35:01,624
We paid another $600,000 out

3781
02:35:01,624 --> 02:35:04,624
with a motorcyclist who got

3782
02:35:05,861 --> 02:35:06,729
injured.

3783
02:35:06,729 --> 02:35:09,729
>> So these roads are major

3784
02:35:10,900 --> 02:35:11,668
thoroughfares and they're going

3785
02:35:11,668 --> 02:35:11,968
to have thousands of people on

3786
02:35:11,968 --> 02:35:12,736
them.

3787
02:35:12,736 --> 02:35:15,705
I understand why we have to fix

3788
02:35:15,705 --> 02:35:16,339
every road in the city

3789
02:35:16,339 --> 02:35:17,400
including cul de sacs but

3790
02:35:17,400 --> 02:35:20,276
the cul de sac is less likely

3791
02:35:20,276 --> 02:35:20,977
to result in a major liability

3792
02:35:20,977 --> 02:35:21,644
payout which then reduces our

3793
02:35:21,644 --> 02:35:24,644
ability to pave other roads.

3794
02:35:25,248 --> 02:35:25,949
So how can we provide this

3795
02:35:25,949 --> 02:35:26,650
information in a useful way to

3796
02:35:26,650 --> 02:35:28,650
the Department Transportation

3797
02:35:30,253 --> 02:35:30,920
to say there's literally an

3798
02:35:30,920 --> 02:35:31,288
accident going to happen on

3799
02:35:31,288 --> 02:35:32,220
this road?

3800
02:35:32,220 --> 02:35:32,388
i am the council member of this

3801
02:35:32,388 --> 02:35:34,388
district.

3802
02:35:34,858 --> 02:35:35,559
I hear from my constituents all

3803
02:35:35,559 --> 02:35:36,226
the time Why can't we put that

3804
02:35:36,226 --> 02:35:39,226
in the software to prevent

3805
02:35:39,929 --> 02:35:40,664
liability and then we can use

3806
02:35:40,664 --> 02:35:44,000
the money we're not spending on

3807
02:35:44,000 --> 02:35:44,334
lawsuits to pave the roads more

3808
02:35:44,334 --> 02:35:45,102
.

3809
02:35:45,102 --> 02:35:48,102
>> Thank you for that question.

3810
02:35:49,390 --> 02:35:49,606
Councilmember Van Wilpert So

3811
02:35:49,606 --> 02:35:50,273
the software does make

3812
02:35:50,273 --> 02:35:52,673
recommendations for the best

3813
02:35:54,411 --> 02:35:54,978
value for the funding that we

3814
02:35:54,978 --> 02:35:57,378
allocate each year to

3815
02:35:58,815 --> 02:35:59,482
the pavement program So it does

3816
02:35:59,482 --> 02:36:00,149
provide and recommend those

3817
02:36:00,149 --> 02:36:02,549
streets that are recommended

3818
02:36:03,787 --> 02:36:04,755
for street rehabilitation and

3819
02:36:04,755 --> 02:36:08,355
that we either provide as a

3820
02:36:08,924 --> 02:36:09,693
standalone pavement projects

3821
02:36:09,693 --> 02:36:13,893
that ecp manages or we we put

3822
02:36:13,930 --> 02:36:14,464
that as our our into our

3823
02:36:14,464 --> 02:36:15,164
Midland Pay program.

3824
02:36:15,164 --> 02:36:18,335
The majority of the streets do

3825
02:36:18,335 --> 02:36:18,936
go to maintaining the roadway

3826
02:36:18,936 --> 02:36:19,570
that are already in good

3827
02:36:19,570 --> 02:36:21,570
conditions and maintaining

3828
02:36:23,600 --> 02:36:23,706
those because you get more bang

3829
02:36:23,706 --> 02:36:24,408
for your buck in trying to

3830
02:36:24,408 --> 02:36:26,808
maintain those those roadways

3831
02:36:28,278 --> 02:36:28,712
for slurry seals and keep seals

3832
02:36:28,712 --> 02:36:29,446
and so forth.

3833
02:36:29,446 --> 02:36:32,446
So because of the limited

3834
02:36:32,749 --> 02:36:33,550
funding that we do have each

3835
02:36:33,550 --> 02:36:37,421
year, of course we don't get to

3836
02:36:37,421 --> 02:36:37,988
address all of the recommended

3837
02:36:37,988 --> 02:36:38,727
streets segments that

3838
02:36:38,727 --> 02:36:39,389
choreograph open gov recommends

3839
02:36:39,389 --> 02:36:43,193
to us So we do make those

3840
02:36:43,193 --> 02:36:43,727
selections based off of our

3841
02:36:43,727 --> 02:36:45,727
field verification.

3842
02:36:48,132 --> 02:36:48,832
Our engineers go out there and

3843
02:36:48,832 --> 02:36:49,990
select those streets, do mark

3844
02:36:49,990 --> 02:36:49,766
out.

3845
02:36:49,766 --> 02:36:52,766
We also coordinate this year

3846
02:36:52,836 --> 02:36:53,537
with council members to let us

3847
02:36:53,537 --> 02:36:54,238
know if there's any particular

3848
02:36:54,238 --> 02:36:54,938
roadways that are really high

3849
02:36:54,938 --> 02:36:58,241
priority for them that we have

3850
02:36:58,241 --> 02:36:58,909
been incorporating and

3851
02:36:58,909 --> 02:36:59,476
potentially swapping in our

3852
02:36:59,476 --> 02:37:01,476
million pave streets.

3853
02:37:03,800 --> 02:37:03,747
So those things are things that

3854
02:37:03,747 --> 02:37:04,415
we're incorporating with our

3855
02:37:04,415 --> 02:37:06,815
streets election year after

3856
02:37:07,985 --> 02:37:08,418
year to make those types of

3857
02:37:08,418 --> 02:37:08,785
improvements.

3858
02:37:08,785 --> 02:37:10,785
>> Got it.

3859
02:37:12,756 --> 02:37:13,457
Well that had not been I have

3860
02:37:13,457 --> 02:37:13,923
not had that experience as a

3861
02:37:13,923 --> 02:37:15,923
council member.

3862
02:37:18,161 --> 02:37:18,795
I have been bringing things and

3863
02:37:18,795 --> 02:37:19,463
not to you in particular

3864
02:37:19,463 --> 02:37:20,197
obviously to to whoever I'm

3865
02:37:20,197 --> 02:37:22,967
supposed to talk to you to

3866
02:37:22,967 --> 02:37:23,834
Bethany or to Eric Dargon when

3867
02:37:23,834 --> 02:37:27,337
I was here or anybody I mean I

3868
02:37:27,337 --> 02:37:28,138
brought in spreadsheet sheets.

3869
02:37:28,138 --> 02:37:28,772
I hand them to the mayor's

3870
02:37:28,772 --> 02:37:29,373
office and said these are

3871
02:37:29,373 --> 02:37:31,773
the roads we're getting

3872
02:37:32,420 --> 02:37:32,710
the most complaints about and

3873
02:37:32,710 --> 02:37:33,344
they're major thoroughfares.

3874
02:37:33,344 --> 02:37:33,711
And then two big accidents

3875
02:37:33,711 --> 02:37:35,711
happened.

3876
02:37:36,347 --> 02:37:36,713
We've paid over $1 million in

3877
02:37:36,713 --> 02:37:37,548
liability.

3878
02:37:37,548 --> 02:37:41,190
I feel that I am not being

3879
02:37:41,190 --> 02:37:41,852
listened to.

3880
02:37:41,852 --> 02:37:42,519
>> What I'm trying to tell you

3881
02:37:42,519 --> 02:37:45,519
which roads could result in

3882
02:37:45,756 --> 02:37:46,390
liability And so I don't either

3883
02:37:46,390 --> 02:37:47,123
the software system that's

3884
02:37:47,123 --> 02:37:50,723
blocking us from doing this and

3885
02:37:51,127 --> 02:37:51,828
how can I better communicate so

3886
02:37:51,828 --> 02:37:52,162
we don't have liability on our

3887
02:37:52,162 --> 02:37:52,796
streets?

3888
02:37:52,796 --> 02:37:55,796
Thank you for the comment.

3889
02:37:56,300 --> 02:37:57,000
Consent Council member Von

3890
02:37:57,000 --> 02:38:00,271
Wilpert And as we have shared

3891
02:38:00,271 --> 02:38:03,271
with with Council on our

3892
02:38:04,975 --> 02:38:05,777
overall pci scores citywide we

3893
02:38:05,777 --> 02:38:09,377
did a brief assessment of even

3894
02:38:09,747 --> 02:38:10,815
just the single digit streets

3895
02:38:10,815 --> 02:38:14,415
at the city And based on

3896
02:38:14,884 --> 02:38:15,553
the funding that Transportation

3897
02:38:15,553 --> 02:38:17,953
Department receives it would

3898
02:38:19,560 --> 02:38:19,623
take over ten years to just

3899
02:38:19,623 --> 02:38:22,230
address the streets in

3900
02:38:23,928 --> 02:38:24,595
the single digits which of

3901
02:38:24,595 --> 02:38:25,296
course then as we move into

3902
02:38:25,296 --> 02:38:28,499
the tens and the 20s then all

3903
02:38:28,499 --> 02:38:29,233
that to say is that there is a

3904
02:38:29,233 --> 02:38:32,236
great need citywide And as much

3905
02:38:32,236 --> 02:38:33,300
as we try to prioritize and

3906
02:38:33,300 --> 02:38:35,403
select streets to prevent

3907
02:38:37,275 --> 02:38:38,800
further the deterioration as

3908
02:38:38,800 --> 02:38:41,800
Alex mentioned just the overall

3909
02:38:42,680 --> 02:38:43,381
need is is great but we are

3910
02:38:43,381 --> 02:38:44,248
more than happy to work with

3911
02:38:44,248 --> 02:38:47,553
your office and and take any

3912
02:38:47,553 --> 02:38:48,285
any road selections or any

3913
02:38:48,285 --> 02:38:50,685
anything that your constituents

3914
02:38:52,490 --> 02:38:56,900
are bringing and see how that

3915
02:38:56,927 --> 02:38:57,461
would fit into the selection on

3916
02:38:57,461 --> 02:38:58,161
an annual basis.

3917
02:38:58,161 --> 02:38:58,896
And Councilmember I could add

3918
02:38:58,896 --> 02:39:02,299
on I feel that the coordination

3919
02:39:02,299 --> 02:39:02,934
between officers has been

3920
02:39:02,934 --> 02:39:03,668
successful in reallocating

3921
02:39:03,668 --> 02:39:06,737
certain slurry miles to more or

3922
02:39:06,737 --> 02:39:07,505
higher priority areas.

3923
02:39:07,505 --> 02:39:07,871
I realize it's never going to

3924
02:39:07,871 --> 02:39:08,539
be enough.

3925
02:39:08,539 --> 02:39:11,776
There's always going to be a

3926
02:39:11,776 --> 02:39:12,476
need somewhere out there but

3927
02:39:12,476 --> 02:39:13,177
taking miles that are already

3928
02:39:13,177 --> 02:39:15,980
allocated to your district to

3929
02:39:15,980 --> 02:39:16,747
reallocate them or assign them

3930
02:39:16,747 --> 02:39:17,415
to a different area that is a

3931
02:39:17,415 --> 02:39:18,810
more high priority for your

3932
02:39:18,810 --> 02:39:18,716
community is something that

3933
02:39:18,716 --> 02:39:21,180
we'll continue to do And I

3934
02:39:21,180 --> 02:39:21,652
think we have a good successful

3935
02:39:21,652 --> 02:39:23,788
track record of doing that

3936
02:39:23,788 --> 02:39:26,324
together So far for cota only

3937
02:39:26,324 --> 02:39:28,724
after the accident happened.

3938
02:39:31,495 --> 02:39:32,362
That's what I'm trying to say.

3939
02:39:32,362 --> 02:39:32,664
>> I'm not going to vote for

3940
02:39:32,664 --> 02:39:34,664
this.

3941
02:39:36,734 --> 02:39:37,368
I'm frustrated This Thank you

3942
02:39:37,368 --> 02:39:39,368
Councilmember Von Wilpert.

3943
02:39:41,572 --> 02:39:42,239
And we should emphasize that

3944
02:39:42,239 --> 02:39:42,940
you were the leading voice a

3945
02:39:42,940 --> 02:39:43,541
few years ago to actually get

3946
02:39:43,541 --> 02:39:45,541
the pavement management

3947
02:39:47,450 --> 02:39:47,844
reinstated.

3948
02:39:47,844 --> 02:39:48,445
You did And we found the money

3949
02:39:48,445 --> 02:39:49,247
for it back in the day.

3950
02:39:49,247 --> 02:39:53,447
So with that we will go to

3951
02:39:54,219 --> 02:39:57,819
council member Foster Um okay I

3952
02:39:58,856 --> 02:40:02,456
this is a little difficult I

3953
02:40:05,530 --> 02:40:06,497
understand the ibus comments

3954
02:40:06,497 --> 02:40:07,198
and let me see if I could just

3955
02:40:07,198 --> 02:40:10,198
make sure I understand what's

3956
02:40:10,702 --> 02:40:11,469
before us.

3957
02:40:11,469 --> 02:40:15,690
We have a contract that's going

3958
02:40:15,605 --> 02:40:16,576
to expire soon correct.

3959
02:40:16,576 --> 02:40:18,943
And when is what is that

3960
02:40:18,943 --> 02:40:21,343
expiration date by SEPTEMBER

3961
02:40:22,646 --> 02:40:23,810
8th I'm sorry SEPTEMBER 8th,

3962
02:40:23,810 --> 02:40:25,810
2026 or 2026.

3963
02:40:34,592 --> 02:40:35,260
Um and so clearly the staff

3964
02:40:35,260 --> 02:40:37,660
unfortunately got behind in

3965
02:40:39,898 --> 02:40:40,198
moving forward appropriately

3966
02:40:40,198 --> 02:40:41,165
right?

3967
02:40:41,165 --> 02:40:45,365
I guess in regards to an rfi

3968
02:40:45,402 --> 02:40:49,200
and a subsequent rfp But just

3969
02:40:49,941 --> 02:40:50,641
as I look at this and I

3970
02:40:50,641 --> 02:40:54,241
understand the two years but I

3971
02:40:54,412 --> 02:40:58,612
like to think even if we made

3972
02:40:59,217 --> 02:40:59,918
the rfi we made the rfp that it

3973
02:40:59,918 --> 02:41:02,318
seems if there's another

3974
02:41:04,255 --> 02:41:06,655
contract that is another

3975
02:41:08,493 --> 02:41:09,293
contractor that is selected I

3976
02:41:09,293 --> 02:41:09,995
would assume we would do this

3977
02:41:09,995 --> 02:41:12,995
like any other software where

3978
02:41:13,664 --> 02:41:14,266
there is a transition time

3979
02:41:14,266 --> 02:41:17,266
where we have both under

3980
02:41:18,703 --> 02:41:19,337
contract is that the case or

3981
02:41:19,337 --> 02:41:19,938
not the case in this one?

3982
02:41:19,938 --> 02:41:22,338
And essentially what I'm

3983
02:41:22,340 --> 02:41:23,700
getting at is we could do

3984
02:41:23,700 --> 02:41:23,708
the two years to hold staff

3985
02:41:23,708 --> 02:41:26,708
accountable but we'll be right

3986
02:41:27,579 --> 02:41:28,380
back here before us either with

3987
02:41:28,380 --> 02:41:31,980
better news that you're able to

3988
02:41:32,317 --> 02:41:32,717
move forward or worse news that

3989
02:41:32,717 --> 02:41:33,418
you're not.

3990
02:41:33,418 --> 02:41:36,254
But I'm assuming there will be

3991
02:41:36,254 --> 02:41:36,855
a transition period to um as we

3992
02:41:36,855 --> 02:41:39,855
go from one platform to

3993
02:41:41,393 --> 02:41:41,827
the other like we do with

3994
02:41:41,827 --> 02:41:42,160
anything else.

3995
02:41:42,160 --> 02:41:42,961
Correct.

3996
02:41:42,961 --> 02:41:46,197
I will defer to the department

3997
02:41:46,197 --> 02:41:46,798
on particulars for for what

3998
02:41:46,798 --> 02:41:49,798
their needs will be But

3999
02:41:50,268 --> 02:41:50,736
generally yes we would have to

4000
02:41:50,736 --> 02:41:51,436
under contract.

4001
02:41:51,436 --> 02:41:55,360
We also have to consider if

4002
02:41:55,240 --> 02:41:55,907
there MAY be a protest period

4003
02:41:55,907 --> 02:41:56,641
if something goes wrong and

4004
02:41:56,641 --> 02:41:57,241
there are additional delays two

4005
02:41:57,241 --> 02:42:00,241
years MAY not be enough

4006
02:42:01,120 --> 02:42:01,813
throughout the process.

4007
02:42:01,813 --> 02:42:02,481
Council over the two years that

4008
02:42:02,481 --> 02:42:05,481
I suggested just trying to

4009
02:42:06,718 --> 02:42:07,519
think of what the short as

4010
02:42:07,519 --> 02:42:08,286
potential time is if there is a

4011
02:42:08,286 --> 02:42:10,589
potential the rfa goes out and

4012
02:42:10,589 --> 02:42:11,560
there is no one else who can do

4013
02:42:11,560 --> 02:42:11,790
the work right.

4014
02:42:11,790 --> 02:42:12,524
I don't know if that's the case

4015
02:42:12,524 --> 02:42:15,360
but part of the issue of this

4016
02:42:15,360 --> 02:42:16,940
being direct docketed in my

4017
02:42:16,940 --> 02:42:16,794
office only getting information

4018
02:42:16,794 --> 02:42:19,131
on this like Wednesday through

4019
02:42:19,131 --> 02:42:19,865
Friday of last week if I can't

4020
02:42:19,865 --> 02:42:20,164
answer that question right now.

4021
02:42:20,164 --> 02:42:22,164
Right.

4022
02:42:25,203 --> 02:42:25,938
So if you end up needing to do

4023
02:42:25,938 --> 02:42:26,338
it for a fee and switch to

4024
02:42:26,338 --> 02:42:28,338
another one.

4025
02:42:29,575 --> 02:42:30,275
Yeah you probably do need to

4026
02:42:30,275 --> 02:42:30,942
build in some time to actually

4027
02:42:30,942 --> 02:42:33,342
transition things over Maybe

4028
02:42:34,613 --> 02:42:35,414
that transition time gets

4029
02:42:35,414 --> 02:42:36,181
faster with new way out or I

4030
02:42:36,181 --> 02:42:39,181
don't know But our initial

4031
02:42:39,785 --> 02:42:40,552
recommendation is is going to

4032
02:42:40,552 --> 02:42:43,210
be however long rfi is plus a

4033
02:42:43,210 --> 02:42:43,722
year or two Two years seem to

4034
02:42:43,722 --> 02:42:44,389
be something that came up when

4035
02:42:44,389 --> 02:42:46,789
we were having conversations

4036
02:42:47,192 --> 02:42:47,493
with staff This morning.

4037
02:42:47,493 --> 02:42:49,493
Okay.

4038
02:42:52,197 --> 02:42:53,640
I guess my my next question

4039
02:42:53,640 --> 02:42:56,664
will be as we went into

4040
02:42:57,602 --> 02:43:00,602
the additional contract term is

4041
02:43:00,706 --> 02:43:01,405
I'm assuming it's a five year

4042
02:43:01,405 --> 02:43:05,500
it's a five year contract one

4043
02:43:05,377 --> 02:43:05,677
year terms right option to

4044
02:43:05,677 --> 02:43:06,644
renew.

4045
02:43:06,644 --> 02:43:10,480
Is that how you guys ran this

4046
02:43:10,480 --> 02:43:13,648
this new Yes that is correct.

4047
02:43:15,120 --> 02:43:18,120
Five year extension with one

4048
02:43:19,658 --> 02:43:23,258
year terms that are b7 correct

4049
02:43:24,263 --> 02:43:24,963
When you guys establish

4050
02:43:24,963 --> 02:43:25,664
the when you guys just went

4051
02:43:25,664 --> 02:43:28,640
through your negotiations, was

4052
02:43:28,867 --> 02:43:29,668
it based on cpi index or was it

4053
02:43:29,668 --> 02:43:30,436
did they just work up whatever

4054
02:43:30,436 --> 02:43:34,360
their fresh numbers were And is

4055
02:43:34,390 --> 02:43:34,707
there any are there any

4056
02:43:34,707 --> 02:43:37,107
guardrails that we're taking

4057
02:43:39,644 --> 02:43:40,412
into consideration or were they

4058
02:43:40,412 --> 02:43:41,846
given an open and open path to

4059
02:43:41,846 --> 02:43:44,246
provide you with whatever

4060
02:43:47,520 --> 02:43:47,820
numbers they wanted to?

4061
02:43:47,820 --> 02:43:48,487
>> And so continuation of that

4062
02:43:48,487 --> 02:43:50,887
current annual price which

4063
02:43:52,258 --> 02:43:52,958
incorporates the 3% annual

4064
02:43:52,958 --> 02:43:55,358
inflation and starting with

4065
02:43:56,161 --> 02:43:56,728
your six it accounts for a 5%

4066
02:43:56,728 --> 02:43:58,728
annual inflation rate.

4067
02:44:00,900 --> 02:44:03,900
So it's it continues to

4068
02:44:04,870 --> 02:44:05,671
increase year over year first

4069
02:44:05,671 --> 02:44:08,507
by three years and then at 3%

4070
02:44:08,507 --> 02:44:12,107
and then by 5% four years six

4071
02:44:13,212 --> 02:44:13,813
through ten which is at a is

4072
02:44:13,813 --> 02:44:14,280
that in accordance with

4073
02:44:14,280 --> 02:44:14,580
the price index?

4074
02:44:14,580 --> 02:44:16,580
Right.

4075
02:44:17,883 --> 02:44:18,717
Right.

4076
02:44:18,717 --> 02:44:19,118
I'm trying to try to understand

4077
02:44:19,118 --> 02:44:21,118
what we did.

4078
02:44:22,555 --> 02:44:23,322
Did we give them an open

4079
02:44:23,322 --> 02:44:23,723
checkbook or do we have some

4080
02:44:23,723 --> 02:44:24,356
guardrails?

4081
02:44:24,356 --> 02:44:27,259
That's what I'm trying to

4082
02:44:27,259 --> 02:44:27,593
determine So yes, that is

4083
02:44:27,593 --> 02:44:28,193
correct.

4084
02:44:28,193 --> 02:44:28,828
5% is the max allowable?

4085
02:44:28,828 --> 02:44:31,828
They still have to justify

4086
02:44:32,297 --> 02:44:32,964
submit a request to justify

4087
02:44:32,964 --> 02:44:35,964
the 5% would be the maximum.

4088
02:44:36,869 --> 02:44:37,670
I do want to clarify the term.

4089
02:44:37,670 --> 02:44:38,437
The additional term is a full

4090
02:44:38,437 --> 02:44:41,373
five years that was requested

4091
02:44:41,373 --> 02:44:43,373
by the department.

4092
02:44:46,278 --> 02:44:47,130
If there is an idea to do one

4093
02:44:47,130 --> 02:44:47,713
year with for one additional

4094
02:44:47,713 --> 02:44:51,500
one year options that could be

4095
02:44:51,500 --> 02:44:51,350
a change to the amendment as

4096
02:44:51,350 --> 02:44:51,683
well.

4097
02:44:51,683 --> 02:44:53,683
>> Okay.

4098
02:44:54,486 --> 02:44:54,787
So you guys did a straight

4099
02:44:54,787 --> 02:44:55,187
five.

4100
02:44:55,187 --> 02:44:55,921
Interesting.

4101
02:44:55,921 --> 02:44:58,624
So you had different intentions

4102
02:44:58,624 --> 02:44:59,492
coming here today.

4103
02:44:59,492 --> 02:45:02,492
Is that what we're to

4104
02:45:08,334 --> 02:45:08,934
understand I guess that's okay.

4105
02:45:08,934 --> 02:45:09,869
Don't worry about it.

4106
02:45:09,869 --> 02:45:13,469
I'll conclude there and turn it

4107
02:45:13,506 --> 02:45:13,873
over to my colleague.

4108
02:45:13,873 --> 02:45:14,240
All right.

4109
02:45:14,240 --> 02:45:15,107
Thank you.

4110
02:45:15,107 --> 02:45:18,107
COUNCILMAN Foster will go to

4111
02:45:20,580 --> 02:45:22,648
council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.

4112
02:45:22,648 --> 02:45:25,480
>> This is getting difficult

4113
02:45:28,220 --> 02:45:28,687
There.

4114
02:45:28,687 --> 02:45:29,422
I hear you.

4115
02:45:29,422 --> 02:45:33,220
But the needed for the software

4116
02:45:33,459 --> 02:45:34,930
and why it's valuable I think

4117
02:45:34,930 --> 02:45:34,427
that's come across pretty

4118
02:45:34,427 --> 02:45:35,127
easily.

4119
02:45:35,127 --> 02:45:37,697
I think I'm just perplexed at

4120
02:45:37,697 --> 02:45:38,331
the timelines here and as

4121
02:45:38,331 --> 02:45:38,998
Councilmember Foster just

4122
02:45:38,998 --> 02:45:39,599
pointed out, the first five

4123
02:45:39,599 --> 02:45:42,599
years of the sole source

4124
02:45:42,602 --> 02:45:43,369
contract that we already

4125
02:45:43,369 --> 02:45:45,369
approved in 2022 already

4126
02:45:46,106 --> 02:45:46,605
allowed for 3% annual increases

4127
02:45:46,605 --> 02:45:47,306
But it factored in

4128
02:45:47,306 --> 02:45:50,906
the potential that if we were

4129
02:45:51,544 --> 02:45:53,479
to extend it that the annual

4130
02:45:53,479 --> 02:45:53,980
increases would jump to 5%

4131
02:45:53,980 --> 02:45:55,980
instead of 3%.

4132
02:45:59,552 --> 02:46:00,586
Is that correct?

4133
02:46:00,586 --> 02:46:02,488
>> So if we if we extend this

4134
02:46:02,488 --> 02:46:03,189
the next even two years right

4135
02:46:03,189 --> 02:46:03,923
now it's accounting for a 5%

4136
02:46:03,923 --> 02:46:06,323
increase inflation factor which

4137
02:46:07,860 --> 02:46:08,527
was a jump over the 3% that was

4138
02:46:08,527 --> 02:46:11,527
built into the original five

4139
02:46:12,498 --> 02:46:14,498
year contract.

4140
02:46:17,202 --> 02:46:17,937
So the 5% is part of the new

4141
02:46:17,937 --> 02:46:18,604
contract amendment negotiations

4142
02:46:18,604 --> 02:46:21,604
and was not included in

4143
02:46:23,943 --> 02:46:24,811
the original contract.

4144
02:46:24,811 --> 02:46:27,811
>> So you started the process

4145
02:46:29,549 --> 02:46:30,820
to consider extending this

4146
02:46:30,820 --> 02:46:32,820
contract in JANUARY?

4147
02:46:33,920 --> 02:46:34,788
That is correct.

4148
02:46:34,788 --> 02:46:37,788
When was the approval for

4149
02:46:41,940 --> 02:46:41,727
the sole source given

4150
02:46:41,727 --> 02:46:42,361
the official memo that was

4151
02:46:42,361 --> 02:46:44,761
approved and signed by

4152
02:46:45,398 --> 02:46:47,798
purchasing and contracting was

4153
02:46:50,103 --> 02:46:51,271
JUNE 4th I believe.

4154
02:46:51,271 --> 02:46:54,871
>> And so it's from JANUARY to

4155
02:46:55,141 --> 02:46:55,909
JUNE.

4156
02:46:55,909 --> 02:46:56,608
I mean it sounded like when

4157
02:46:56,608 --> 02:46:57,277
Councilmember Little River was

4158
02:46:57,277 --> 02:46:59,879
asking the decision was made

4159
02:46:59,879 --> 02:47:00,480
somewhat early on that

4160
02:47:00,480 --> 02:47:02,880
the preference would be

4161
02:47:04,350 --> 02:47:05,118
the sole source.

4162
02:47:05,118 --> 02:47:08,118
Yes, there was a recommendation

4163
02:47:09,189 --> 02:47:12,189
that came out on transportation

4164
02:47:14,260 --> 02:47:14,794
working with pnc on options on

4165
02:47:14,794 --> 02:47:17,794
how to extend services with

4166
02:47:19,132 --> 02:47:19,833
this vendor if you don't mind

4167
02:47:19,833 --> 02:47:20,500
me asking especially since you

4168
02:47:20,500 --> 02:47:23,904
know this has to go through

4169
02:47:23,904 --> 02:47:24,604
purchasing and contracting and

4170
02:47:24,604 --> 02:47:25,305
and you know when you go

4171
02:47:25,305 --> 02:47:28,410
through that process you check

4172
02:47:28,410 --> 02:47:28,808
a number of boxes for what

4173
02:47:28,808 --> 02:47:31,678
would justify a sole source

4174
02:47:31,678 --> 02:47:32,312
contract And one of those I

4175
02:47:32,312 --> 02:47:34,712
believe is something about

4176
02:47:37,250 --> 02:47:37,951
market competition and

4177
02:47:37,951 --> 02:47:38,484
understanding whether the city

4178
02:47:38,484 --> 02:47:39,152
would benefit from a

4179
02:47:39,152 --> 02:47:39,619
competitive process And that

4180
02:47:39,619 --> 02:47:41,619
was not correct.

4181
02:47:41,988 --> 02:47:43,560
I mean I would imagine if we

4182
02:47:43,560 --> 02:47:46,927
had done an rfp or even a loose

4183
02:47:46,927 --> 02:47:47,727
evaluation of vendors it would

4184
02:47:47,727 --> 02:47:51,198
not be difficult for us to come

4185
02:47:51,198 --> 02:47:51,898
back and say the argument that

4186
02:47:51,898 --> 02:47:52,565
you've made which is that this

4187
02:47:52,565 --> 02:47:56,165
is the best vendor option we

4188
02:47:56,169 --> 02:47:56,871
have limited options to come up

4189
02:47:56,871 --> 02:47:57,637
with that but I don't doesn't

4190
02:47:57,637 --> 02:48:00,637
feel like that's actually been

4191
02:48:01,174 --> 02:48:01,808
confirmed In this particular

4192
02:48:01,808 --> 02:48:05,408
case a formal rfi was not

4193
02:48:05,612 --> 02:48:06,346
requested from the department

4194
02:48:06,346 --> 02:48:09,346
in their justification to both

4195
02:48:10,183 --> 02:48:10,750
purchasing and to I believe

4196
02:48:10,750 --> 02:48:11,418
the attorney's office.

4197
02:48:11,418 --> 02:48:14,418
They indicated that they had

4198
02:48:14,888 --> 02:48:15,688
done their own market research

4199
02:48:15,688 --> 02:48:15,989
and did not find any additional

4200
02:48:15,989 --> 02:48:16,722
firms.

4201
02:48:16,722 --> 02:48:18,325
That was part of their

4202
02:48:18,325 --> 02:48:20,325
justification and

4203
02:48:23,630 --> 02:48:23,930
the department's justification

4204
02:48:23,930 --> 02:48:24,698
.

4205
02:48:24,698 --> 02:48:25,564
How long does it typically take

4206
02:48:25,564 --> 02:48:29,164
to conduct an rfi, an rfp

4207
02:48:29,369 --> 02:48:30,237
typically less than 30 days can

4208
02:48:30,237 --> 02:48:33,837
be as quick as a department

4209
02:48:34,206 --> 02:48:34,908
like so even if that was a box

4210
02:48:34,908 --> 02:48:37,477
that we wanted to check, that

4211
02:48:37,477 --> 02:48:38,345
would not have been a difficult

4212
02:48:38,345 --> 02:48:39,145
box to have checked at the end

4213
02:48:39,145 --> 02:48:42,745
of a five year contract term

4214
02:48:45,252 --> 02:48:46,220
for a sole source contract.

4215
02:48:46,220 --> 02:48:50,420
Is there a reason why we didn't

4216
02:48:54,761 --> 02:48:55,462
do that?

4217
02:48:55,462 --> 02:48:58,462
I can perhaps answer that

4218
02:48:59,800 --> 02:49:00,634
question, COUNCILMAN Really?

4219
02:49:00,634 --> 02:49:04,234
So the contract itself is house

4220
02:49:04,738 --> 02:49:07,738
because it's software in our

4221
02:49:09,276 --> 02:49:10,770
I.T fiscal division and so from

4222
02:49:10,770 --> 02:49:13,770
when they start the preparation

4223
02:49:14,481 --> 02:49:15,115
of the renewal of the contract

4224
02:49:15,115 --> 02:49:15,816
because it's expiring they

4225
02:49:15,816 --> 02:49:18,216
coordinated with the engineers

4226
02:49:20,286 --> 02:49:20,921
that actually use the software

4227
02:49:20,921 --> 02:49:24,521
and so forth and based on

4228
02:49:24,958 --> 02:49:25,759
the engineers input it would

4229
02:49:25,759 --> 02:49:29,163
take a lot of work trying to

4230
02:49:29,163 --> 02:49:29,630
you know migrate all of this

4231
02:49:29,630 --> 02:49:30,330
historical data.

4232
02:49:30,330 --> 02:49:33,330
The inventory that we have

4233
02:49:34,568 --> 02:49:35,436
that's been program as part of

4234
02:49:35,436 --> 02:49:39,339
the open gov cadre graph into a

4235
02:49:39,339 --> 02:49:42,939
new platform So they took those

4236
02:49:43,510 --> 02:49:44,211
into considerations As far as

4237
02:49:44,211 --> 02:49:44,978
the length that it would take

4238
02:49:44,978 --> 02:49:47,978
to migrate all that information

4239
02:49:48,415 --> 02:49:49,116
because we're doing the payment

4240
02:49:49,116 --> 02:49:51,516
condition assessment this year

4241
02:49:53,320 --> 02:49:53,988
and having collecting all that

4242
02:49:53,988 --> 02:49:57,588
pci data for the streets and

4243
02:49:58,158 --> 02:49:58,959
putting it into Carter graph

4244
02:49:58,959 --> 02:49:59,793
and needing to have that Carter

4245
02:49:59,793 --> 02:50:02,196
graph be available so that we

4246
02:50:02,196 --> 02:50:02,897
can compare that with the 2023

4247
02:50:02,897 --> 02:50:05,897
assessment that was done That

4248
02:50:07,401 --> 02:50:08,102
was also in Carter Graph So we

4249
02:50:08,102 --> 02:50:08,502
could do an apples to apples

4250
02:50:08,502 --> 02:50:10,502
comparison.

4251
02:50:12,339 --> 02:50:13,140
So you're right that there

4252
02:50:13,140 --> 02:50:17,311
could have been an I done as

4253
02:50:17,311 --> 02:50:18,120
far as I know there is a

4254
02:50:18,120 --> 02:50:18,679
competitor called Street Saver

4255
02:50:18,679 --> 02:50:22,279
that that could be done that

4256
02:50:22,550 --> 02:50:23,217
actually used streets They were

4257
02:50:23,217 --> 02:50:23,918
working for other municipal

4258
02:50:23,918 --> 02:50:27,254
agencies and it also has its

4259
02:50:27,254 --> 02:50:27,988
ups and Dallas just like Carter

4260
02:50:27,988 --> 02:50:28,622
Graph does and so the engineers

4261
02:50:28,622 --> 02:50:31,192
coordinating with our I.T

4262
02:50:31,192 --> 02:50:34,192
fiscal team decided that it

4263
02:50:35,996 --> 02:50:36,730
would be best if we just had

4264
02:50:36,730 --> 02:50:37,431
the extension for this contract

4265
02:50:37,431 --> 02:50:40,868
because of all the work that's

4266
02:50:40,868 --> 02:50:41,535
been invested putting

4267
02:50:41,535 --> 02:50:42,236
everything into this Carter

4268
02:50:42,236 --> 02:50:45,836
graph the five years we think

4269
02:50:45,840 --> 02:50:46,807
is a sufficient time but

4270
02:50:46,807 --> 02:50:49,844
certainly we can we can go out

4271
02:50:49,844 --> 02:50:50,611
to bid with the two year

4272
02:50:50,611 --> 02:50:54,211
extension and see what else is

4273
02:50:54,682 --> 02:50:55,516
out there.

4274
02:50:55,516 --> 02:50:58,516
So when council PRESIDENT Like

4275
02:50:58,685 --> 02:50:59,553
I've asked in the beginning

4276
02:50:59,553 --> 02:51:00,321
when you kick us off about just

4277
02:51:00,321 --> 02:51:03,321
extending it two years instead

4278
02:51:03,457 --> 02:51:04,125
of five whether that would be

4279
02:51:04,125 --> 02:51:04,825
feasible I had an immediate

4280
02:51:04,825 --> 02:51:07,825
frustration when you ask that

4281
02:51:08,328 --> 02:51:09,290
council PRESIDENT Because

4282
02:51:09,290 --> 02:51:09,697
the answer was not yes, that's

4283
02:51:09,697 --> 02:51:12,366
possible And here's the time

4284
02:51:12,366 --> 02:51:13,134
from which we could be done.

4285
02:51:13,134 --> 02:51:16,734
The answer was it's really hard

4286
02:51:17,571 --> 02:51:18,138
to make a switch and therefore

4287
02:51:18,138 --> 02:51:21,138
we didn't look at it.

4288
02:51:22,760 --> 02:51:22,777
And then now I'm hearing

4289
02:51:22,777 --> 02:51:25,713
the actual answer to how long

4290
02:51:25,713 --> 02:51:29,913
it takes to conduct an rfp is

4291
02:51:31,850 --> 02:51:31,885
30 days.

4292
02:51:31,885 --> 02:51:32,320
I don't have any more questions

4293
02:51:32,320 --> 02:51:34,320
at the moment.

4294
02:51:35,956 --> 02:51:36,624
Council PRESIDENT I think

4295
02:51:36,624 --> 02:51:37,391
clearly there is a lot more

4296
02:51:37,391 --> 02:51:40,391
work and information to be

4297
02:51:41,362 --> 02:51:42,630
provided here and a little bit

4298
02:51:42,630 --> 02:51:42,630
more due diligence on our side

4299
02:51:42,630 --> 02:51:43,970
to to get this across

4300
02:51:43,970 --> 02:51:45,970
the finish line.

4301
02:51:45,867 --> 02:51:48,636
And so if I could request that

4302
02:51:48,636 --> 02:51:49,337
we return this item to staff re

4303
02:51:49,337 --> 02:51:49,970
docketed the first week after

4304
02:51:49,970 --> 02:51:50,671
returning from legislative

4305
02:51:50,671 --> 02:51:54,271
recess that can give us enough

4306
02:51:55,109 --> 02:51:55,710
time to engage with pnc on a

4307
02:51:55,710 --> 02:51:56,411
potential rfi if the if

4308
02:51:56,411 --> 02:51:58,946
the timeline is truly 30 days

4309
02:51:58,946 --> 02:51:59,646
as well as to give the aba's

4310
02:51:59,646 --> 02:52:00,448
office enough time to finish

4311
02:52:00,448 --> 02:52:03,448
their assessment and provide a

4312
02:52:03,951 --> 02:52:04,886
recommendation.

4313
02:52:04,886 --> 02:52:08,486
Well now that you've made that

4314
02:52:08,957 --> 02:52:09,524
COUNCILMAN Whitburn here on

4315
02:52:09,524 --> 02:52:09,924
the lights Thank you.

4316
02:52:09,924 --> 02:52:11,924
I'm excited.

4317
02:52:13,427 --> 02:52:13,895
So I'll just have a few

4318
02:52:13,895 --> 02:52:15,895
questions here.

4319
02:52:19,000 --> 02:52:23,200
>> So the decision not to do an

4320
02:52:25,506 --> 02:52:26,641
rfi was housed in it.

4321
02:52:26,641 --> 02:52:30,241
>> So this was a joint effort

4322
02:52:30,979 --> 02:52:31,546
between I.T team and

4323
02:52:31,546 --> 02:52:33,946
engineering and has a

4324
02:52:35,817 --> 02:52:36,518
management team we use

4325
02:52:36,518 --> 02:52:38,918
the software and pnc

4326
02:52:41,822 --> 02:52:42,523
recommendations Can I MAY a

4327
02:52:42,523 --> 02:52:43,224
support when you say that I.T

4328
02:52:43,224 --> 02:52:46,600
team and the engineering team

4329
02:52:46,600 --> 02:52:46,761
you mean the teams within

4330
02:52:46,761 --> 02:52:47,228
the transportation department?

4331
02:52:47,228 --> 02:52:47,728
That is correct.

4332
02:52:47,728 --> 02:52:50,128
So okay I gotcha.

4333
02:52:54,202 --> 02:52:55,437
Okay thank you.

4334
02:52:55,437 --> 02:52:59,637
>> So I think you make a very

4335
02:53:00,141 --> 02:53:00,942
compelling strong case for why

4336
02:53:00,942 --> 02:53:04,542
it could very well make sense

4337
02:53:05,179 --> 02:53:05,880
to stay with the same vendor

4338
02:53:05,880 --> 02:53:09,480
because you get an apples to

4339
02:53:10,118 --> 02:53:10,885
apples comparison that way.

4340
02:53:10,885 --> 02:53:14,485
But that's also going to be

4341
02:53:14,589 --> 02:53:15,323
true in perpetuity.

4342
02:53:15,323 --> 02:53:16,240
You set yourself up for a

4343
02:53:16,240 --> 02:53:19,240
situation where we can never

4344
02:53:20,262 --> 02:53:20,962
switch platforms because to do

4345
02:53:20,962 --> 02:53:21,830
so would inherently result in

4346
02:53:21,830 --> 02:53:24,830
forgoing the apples to apples

4347
02:53:27,769 --> 02:53:28,670
comparison.

4348
02:53:28,670 --> 02:53:32,270
Is there a cost associated with

4349
02:53:33,274 --> 02:53:34,142
doing that rfi Or is it just

4350
02:53:34,142 --> 02:53:34,643
you just send it out and see

4351
02:53:34,643 --> 02:53:35,577
what you get back?

4352
02:53:35,577 --> 02:53:39,177
I mean is it literally that

4353
02:53:42,984 --> 02:53:43,818
simple?

4354
02:53:43,818 --> 02:53:44,319
There is no cost associated

4355
02:53:44,319 --> 02:53:46,719
with doing an rfi.

4356
02:53:48,230 --> 02:53:48,723
It is just us The city would

4357
02:53:48,723 --> 02:53:49,357
identify what their needs are

4358
02:53:49,357 --> 02:53:49,791
to see who MAY be able to

4359
02:53:49,791 --> 02:53:51,791
fulfill them.

4360
02:53:53,327 --> 02:53:54,290
It's just a very simple

4361
02:53:54,290 --> 02:53:54,696
response If we get a response

4362
02:53:54,696 --> 02:53:57,960
from interested parties that

4363
02:53:58,766 --> 02:53:59,401
show that they MAY have

4364
02:53:59,401 --> 02:54:00,101
available products then we

4365
02:54:00,101 --> 02:54:00,367
would have to do a full blown

4366
02:54:00,367 --> 02:54:02,367
rfp.

4367
02:54:04,306 --> 02:54:04,973
Is there any reason why we

4368
02:54:04,973 --> 02:54:05,774
can't just make it a city

4369
02:54:05,774 --> 02:54:09,374
policy that any time we've got

4370
02:54:10,112 --> 02:54:10,979
a contract up for renewal we

4371
02:54:10,979 --> 02:54:14,582
just do an rfi And is there any

4372
02:54:14,582 --> 02:54:15,350
downside to just doing that?

4373
02:54:15,350 --> 02:54:16,118
>> a Typically we will do

4374
02:54:16,118 --> 02:54:19,621
instead of doing an rfi we will

4375
02:54:19,621 --> 02:54:20,355
do an invitation to beta rfp.

4376
02:54:20,355 --> 02:54:21,890
We will skip the step because

4377
02:54:21,890 --> 02:54:24,890
it's not necessary In this

4378
02:54:25,160 --> 02:54:25,926
instance the department had

4379
02:54:25,926 --> 02:54:28,926
indicated there were no viable

4380
02:54:30,666 --> 02:54:31,199
companies and that's why that

4381
02:54:31,199 --> 02:54:33,599
step was not taken.

4382
02:54:35,404 --> 02:54:36,138
But typically an rfi is just to

4383
02:54:36,138 --> 02:54:36,772
see what's in the marketplace.

4384
02:54:36,772 --> 02:54:39,772
Otherwise we will follow a

4385
02:54:40,442 --> 02:54:40,742
regular procurement process.

4386
02:54:40,742 --> 02:54:41,443
Okay.

4387
02:54:41,443 --> 02:54:45,430
So it sounds like the one

4388
02:54:45,681 --> 02:54:46,415
instance in which we don't

4389
02:54:46,415 --> 02:54:47,248
solicit the potential for other

4390
02:54:47,248 --> 02:54:51,448
bidders is where we go into it

4391
02:54:51,853 --> 02:54:52,286
thinking that it's going to be

4392
02:54:52,286 --> 02:54:52,921
a sole source.

4393
02:54:52,921 --> 02:54:53,555
But that's sort of a

4394
02:54:53,555 --> 02:54:55,555
self-fulfilling prophecy.

4395
02:54:57,693 --> 02:54:58,293
I mean wouldn't even in a

4396
02:54:58,293 --> 02:54:58,926
situation where we think

4397
02:54:58,926 --> 02:55:01,326
there's only one qualified

4398
02:55:03,599 --> 02:55:04,299
company wouldn't it behooves us

4399
02:55:04,299 --> 02:55:05,330
to at least do the rfi anyway

4400
02:55:05,330 --> 02:55:05,433
because you don't know what you

4401
02:55:05,433 --> 02:55:07,433
don't know.

4402
02:55:08,203 --> 02:55:08,670
Let's see what we get back.

4403
02:55:08,670 --> 02:55:09,370
Yes, certainly.

4404
02:55:09,370 --> 02:55:12,970
So is there anything else I

4405
02:55:13,408 --> 02:55:14,109
mean in your mind from where

4406
02:55:14,109 --> 02:55:15,770
you said is there any downside

4407
02:55:15,770 --> 02:55:19,460
in just making a policy that we

4408
02:55:19,460 --> 02:55:19,915
always whether it's you know,

4409
02:55:19,915 --> 02:55:23,515
something new or a renewal do

4410
02:55:25,320 --> 02:55:25,691
some sort of competitive

4411
02:55:25,691 --> 02:55:26,355
outreach?

4412
02:55:26,355 --> 02:55:29,355
>> Yes, certainly we can do

4413
02:55:31,920 --> 02:55:31,793
that at minimum it would be an

4414
02:55:31,793 --> 02:55:32,494
rfi but for the most part it

4415
02:55:32,494 --> 02:55:35,798
would be an invitation later a

4416
02:55:35,798 --> 02:55:36,531
request for proposal.

4417
02:55:36,531 --> 02:55:37,232
Do you need something from us

4418
02:55:37,232 --> 02:55:37,966
to effectuate that or is that

4419
02:55:37,966 --> 02:55:41,303
something that we could just do

4420
02:55:41,303 --> 02:55:41,837
going forward Now we can do

4421
02:55:41,837 --> 02:55:42,137
that going forward.

4422
02:55:42,137 --> 02:55:42,504
Okay.

4423
02:55:42,504 --> 02:55:44,504
Thank you.

4424
02:55:47,760 --> 02:55:48,110
I appreciate that.

4425
02:55:48,110 --> 02:55:51,710
Last question just in regard to

4426
02:55:53,215 --> 02:55:53,983
the timing, SEPTEMBER seems

4427
02:55:53,983 --> 02:55:56,983
like sorry JANUARY seems a

4428
02:55:58,721 --> 02:55:59,321
little late to have gotten

4429
02:55:59,321 --> 02:56:01,721
started on this anyway.

4430
02:56:05,600 --> 02:56:05,794
Was there any reason why we

4431
02:56:05,794 --> 02:56:06,528
wouldn't have started on that a

4432
02:56:06,528 --> 02:56:09,528
little bit sooner than that

4433
02:56:11,333 --> 02:56:12,670
anyway Or was it just again

4434
02:56:12,670 --> 02:56:12,767
because we decided it was to be

4435
02:56:12,767 --> 02:56:16,367
a sole source and didn't that

4436
02:56:17,720 --> 02:56:18,400
we did a damage type?

4437
02:56:18,400 --> 02:56:18,741
Well, but I mean even if we did

4438
02:56:18,741 --> 02:56:19,141
decide there was a sole source

4439
02:56:19,141 --> 02:56:19,441
here we are.

4440
02:56:19,441 --> 02:56:21,441
Okay.

4441
02:56:21,443 --> 02:56:22,440
So it did result in kind of a

4442
02:56:22,440 --> 02:56:22,711
crunch time I believe

4443
02:56:22,711 --> 02:56:25,111
the division's process back

4444
02:56:27,917 --> 02:56:28,717
then was to start the process

4445
02:56:28,717 --> 02:56:31,717
of renewal 9 to 12 months prior

4446
02:56:33,355 --> 02:56:33,656
to the contract expiration

4447
02:56:33,656 --> 02:56:34,390
date.

4448
02:56:34,390 --> 02:56:37,920
In this case unfortunately they

4449
02:56:37,920 --> 02:56:37,693
ended up being more towards

4450
02:56:37,693 --> 02:56:38,227
the nine months prior to

4451
02:56:38,227 --> 02:56:40,227
the expiration date.

4452
02:56:43,765 --> 02:56:44,433
Since then we have reviewed our

4453
02:56:44,433 --> 02:56:45,340
internal process and updated

4454
02:56:45,340 --> 02:56:47,434
our tracking tools, our

4455
02:56:50,139 --> 02:56:50,840
contract dashboard to make sure

4456
02:56:50,840 --> 02:56:51,507
that we will start any future

4457
02:56:51,507 --> 02:56:53,907
process of contract renewal

4458
02:56:56,445 --> 02:56:57,790
earlier too to not get into

4459
02:56:57,790 --> 02:56:57,480
the same situation again.

4460
02:56:57,480 --> 02:56:57,847
Okay, good.

4461
02:56:57,847 --> 02:56:59,847
All right.

4462
02:57:02,785 --> 02:57:03,419
So so basically going forward

4463
02:57:03,419 --> 02:57:03,986
you don't anticipate this

4464
02:57:03,986 --> 02:57:04,387
occurrence again with

4465
02:57:04,387 --> 02:57:04,686
the timing?

4466
02:57:04,686 --> 02:57:06,686
Okay.

4467
02:57:10,260 --> 02:57:10,760
What's let's just add a little

4468
02:57:10,760 --> 02:57:11,126
bit kind from my perspective to

4469
02:57:11,126 --> 02:57:11,794
that side.

4470
02:57:11,794 --> 02:57:14,194
I think transportation like

4471
02:57:14,563 --> 02:57:15,297
they usually do in goods and

4472
02:57:15,297 --> 02:57:15,998
services contracts that are not

4473
02:57:15,998 --> 02:57:19,598
necessarily it When we look at

4474
02:57:20,200 --> 02:57:20,736
what the contracts like to use

4475
02:57:20,736 --> 02:57:21,437
bringing forward for whether or

4476
02:57:21,437 --> 02:57:22,104
not they're doing like they're

4477
02:57:22,104 --> 02:57:24,504
starting this process 2 or 3

4478
02:57:25,541 --> 02:57:26,208
years before a contract expires

4479
02:57:26,208 --> 02:57:26,876
those contracts I assume are

4480
02:57:26,876 --> 02:57:29,876
probably not as typically in

4481
02:57:32,114 --> 02:57:32,582
transportation to your house if

4482
02:57:32,582 --> 02:57:33,315
they are in it.

4483
02:57:33,315 --> 02:57:34,490
But I mentioned that might be

4484
02:57:34,490 --> 02:57:34,750
some of the one department does

4485
02:57:34,750 --> 02:57:37,750
9 to 12 months that make sense

4486
02:57:37,753 --> 02:57:38,387
where goods and services

4487
02:57:38,387 --> 02:57:39,880
contract for Nike contract

4488
02:57:39,880 --> 02:57:39,822
which is a service but it's a

4489
02:57:39,822 --> 02:57:42,822
specific type right longer kind

4490
02:57:43,459 --> 02:57:43,993
of time horizon for evaluating

4491
02:57:43,993 --> 02:57:44,393
that's probably more

4492
02:57:44,393 --> 02:57:45,270
appropriate.

4493
02:57:45,270 --> 02:57:48,270
Makes perfect sense to me.

4494
02:57:49,198 --> 02:57:49,999
My only interest is just

4495
02:57:49,999 --> 02:57:50,766
hopefully what we can do to

4496
02:57:50,766 --> 02:57:54,366
avoid some of the situations in

4497
02:57:55,871 --> 02:57:56,472
the future that seems to be if

4498
02:57:56,472 --> 02:57:57,239
we're doing rfi is going

4499
02:57:57,239 --> 02:58:00,839
forward on a regular basis in

4500
02:58:00,843 --> 02:58:01,610
this sort of a situation and

4501
02:58:01,610 --> 02:58:02,378
have a process in place so that

4502
02:58:02,378 --> 02:58:05,978
we don't get into the time

4503
02:58:07,383 --> 02:58:08,117
crunch like we did here and

4504
02:58:08,117 --> 02:58:11,117
we've addressed the root causes

4505
02:58:13,522 --> 02:58:14,390
of these issues.

4506
02:58:14,390 --> 02:58:15,910
So based on that I'll be

4507
02:58:15,910 --> 02:58:18,910
supportive of the motion that

4508
02:58:18,494 --> 02:58:19,950
my colleagues still want to

4509
02:58:19,950 --> 02:58:19,728
move forward with it.

4510
02:58:19,728 --> 02:58:20,290
Do you have a second?

4511
02:58:20,290 --> 02:58:20,329
Yeah.

4512
02:58:20,329 --> 02:58:20,629
Yeah.

4513
02:58:20,629 --> 02:58:22,629
Okay.

4514
02:58:25,501 --> 02:58:26,202
So before going back to

4515
02:58:26,202 --> 02:58:26,902
Councilmember Ella were there

4516
02:58:26,902 --> 02:58:31,102
and cooling off a little bit I

4517
02:58:31,107 --> 02:58:31,674
think go to your suggestion to

4518
02:58:31,674 --> 02:58:32,375
return this to staff.

4519
02:58:32,375 --> 02:58:33,242
I think a lot of questions and

4520
02:58:33,242 --> 02:58:36,779
a lot of confusion, a lot of

4521
02:58:36,779 --> 02:58:37,513
frustration on the council That

4522
02:58:37,513 --> 02:58:38,147
doesn't all add up to a good

4523
02:58:38,147 --> 02:58:40,147
thoughtful informed vote.

4524
02:58:42,819 --> 02:58:47,619
We do need six We MAY only have

4525
02:58:48,291 --> 02:58:48,991
six here So it cuts it even

4526
02:58:48,991 --> 02:58:51,991
finer by waiting till AUGUST.

4527
02:58:53,963 --> 02:58:54,664
So I'm going to take

4528
02:58:54,664 --> 02:58:55,365
the privilege of the chair and

4529
02:58:55,365 --> 02:58:56,990
I am going to call for a vote

4530
02:58:56,990 --> 02:58:59,990
because we are clearly in

4531
02:59:00,169 --> 02:59:02,569
deliberations that we simply

4532
02:59:06,176 --> 02:59:06,843
return it to staff and with us

4533
02:59:06,843 --> 02:59:10,443
to be docketed the first or

4534
02:59:11,581 --> 02:59:12,382
second week back there and that

4535
02:59:12,382 --> 02:59:15,982
should give you enough time to

4536
02:59:17,286 --> 02:59:17,587
a brief council members on this

4537
02:59:17,587 --> 02:59:18,354
.

4538
02:59:18,354 --> 02:59:19,550
It should give you enough time

4539
02:59:19,550 --> 02:59:22,655
to perhaps have a rfi on

4540
02:59:23,126 --> 02:59:23,860
the street by then That might

4541
02:59:23,860 --> 02:59:24,861
give us some formative answers.

4542
02:59:24,861 --> 02:59:29,610
It MAY give you time to explain

4543
02:59:30,233 --> 02:59:34,433
why the open cut bid is dated

4544
02:59:35,605 --> 02:59:36,206
FEBRUARY 25th and it might also

4545
02:59:36,206 --> 02:59:36,840
explain why open go find

4546
02:59:36,840 --> 02:59:39,240
the amendment On SEPTEMBER

4547
02:59:44,881 --> 02:59:45,682
23rd, 1986 Look it up It's real

4548
02:59:45,682 --> 02:59:48,682
so those questions can be

4549
02:59:50,286 --> 02:59:53,286
answered And with the courtesy

4550
02:59:55,391 --> 02:59:56,590
of my colleague to second on

4551
02:59:56,590 --> 02:59:56,725
the original motion I think

4552
02:59:56,725 --> 02:59:57,294
sending this back so that we

4553
02:59:57,294 --> 03:00:00,294
can all build a better

4554
03:00:01,631 --> 03:00:02,398
confidence it narrows it down.

4555
03:00:02,398 --> 03:00:05,998
We would just be returning to

4556
03:00:06,837 --> 03:00:07,604
the staff everything else that

4557
03:00:07,604 --> 03:00:11,804
I said would be a request given

4558
03:00:12,976 --> 03:00:13,710
what council has said yet just

4559
03:00:13,710 --> 03:00:14,410
make sure I'm understanding so

4560
03:00:14,410 --> 03:00:18,100
that instead of the motion in

4561
03:00:18,548 --> 03:00:19,316
front of us we would be voting

4562
03:00:19,316 --> 03:00:19,649
to send it back to staff,

4563
03:00:19,649 --> 03:00:21,649
correct?

4564
03:00:27,157 --> 03:00:27,890
Yeah, I'm certainly supportive

4565
03:00:27,890 --> 03:00:28,592
of that and I appreciate

4566
03:00:28,592 --> 03:00:28,991
the questions that colleagues

4567
03:00:28,991 --> 03:00:30,991
have asked.

4568
03:00:31,294 --> 03:00:32,280
I think and Catherine Whitburn

4569
03:00:32,280 --> 03:00:32,696
was getting to this the general

4570
03:00:32,696 --> 03:00:35,696
like standard approach of at

4571
03:00:37,300 --> 03:00:37,601
minimum seeing what else is out

4572
03:00:37,601 --> 03:00:38,368
there.

4573
03:00:38,368 --> 03:00:40,369
I just don't I don't see what

4574
03:00:40,369 --> 03:00:44,569
the city has to lose in that

4575
03:00:47,611 --> 03:00:48,378
situation And I'm going to say

4576
03:00:48,378 --> 03:00:48,645
it even it's going to people

4577
03:00:48,645 --> 03:00:50,645
off.

4578
03:00:53,160 --> 03:00:53,717
This is why we want someone in

4579
03:00:53,717 --> 03:00:56,717
charge who's across the board

4580
03:00:59,189 --> 03:00:59,923
is standardizing practices and

4581
03:00:59,923 --> 03:01:02,923
procedures for things like this

4582
03:01:05,528 --> 03:01:06,296
And there's people in the room

4583
03:01:06,296 --> 03:01:10,496
who are bosses but the boss is

4584
03:01:12,135 --> 03:01:12,836
not here and that's why we get

4585
03:01:12,836 --> 03:01:13,503
frustrated It speak for myself

4586
03:01:13,503 --> 03:01:14,204
that's what I get frustrated

4587
03:01:14,204 --> 03:01:17,204
And the refusal to acknowledge

4588
03:01:20,711 --> 03:01:21,311
the benefits of having a person

4589
03:01:21,311 --> 03:01:22,110
who is solely focused on

4590
03:01:22,110 --> 03:01:25,611
the operations of the city who

4591
03:01:26,984 --> 03:01:27,684
can speak to and answer for

4592
03:01:27,684 --> 03:01:28,185
the way things are done at an

4593
03:01:28,185 --> 03:01:30,185
operational level.

4594
03:01:32,422 --> 03:01:33,296
So I'm very supportive of this

4595
03:01:33,296 --> 03:01:33,890
Going back I have no idea why

4596
03:01:33,890 --> 03:01:36,290
this wouldn't be common

4597
03:01:38,328 --> 03:01:39,290
practice and I'll just have

4598
03:01:39,290 --> 03:01:39,797
this part and this isn't even

4599
03:01:39,797 --> 03:01:44,234
like I said out of the heat of

4600
03:01:44,234 --> 03:01:44,868
the moment it's just a feeling

4601
03:01:44,868 --> 03:01:47,268
that continues to persist.

4602
03:01:50,307 --> 03:01:50,974
It's that the governance of

4603
03:01:50,974 --> 03:01:51,642
this council at times feels

4604
03:01:51,642 --> 03:01:54,642
like an inconvenience and it

4605
03:01:55,946 --> 03:01:56,680
can't work that way because

4606
03:01:56,680 --> 03:02:00,280
time and time again the council

4607
03:02:02,786 --> 03:02:03,520
I think actually really works

4608
03:02:03,520 --> 03:02:04,188
to make sure that we're keeping

4609
03:02:04,188 --> 03:02:07,788
the gears turning in the way

4610
03:02:08,291 --> 03:02:09,590
that we know they have to turn.

4611
03:02:09,590 --> 03:02:12,659
But taking that for granted and

4612
03:02:14,365 --> 03:02:15,320
pushing us in a corner is also

4613
03:02:15,320 --> 03:02:19,232
it just it's not the way and

4614
03:02:19,470 --> 03:02:20,337
finding ways around us being

4615
03:02:20,337 --> 03:02:21,105
able to govern in the way that

4616
03:02:21,105 --> 03:02:21,572
we we need to govern is also

4617
03:02:21,572 --> 03:02:23,572
not acceptable.

4618
03:02:26,309 --> 03:02:26,944
So I'm glad to see this to be

4619
03:02:26,944 --> 03:02:27,611
returned and I appreciate

4620
03:02:27,611 --> 03:02:30,611
the attention to detail that

4621
03:02:31,415 --> 03:02:32,160
you just provided and I surely

4622
03:02:32,160 --> 03:02:35,160
hope that in the future

4623
03:02:37,922 --> 03:02:38,789
the very, very basic question

4624
03:02:38,789 --> 03:02:39,456
of who else is out there that

4625
03:02:39,456 --> 03:02:42,456
could have offered this and

4626
03:02:43,794 --> 03:02:44,495
could they have offered it at a

4627
03:02:44,495 --> 03:02:45,229
similar product at a better

4628
03:02:45,229 --> 03:02:45,963
price at a bare minimum That is

4629
03:02:45,963 --> 03:02:49,563
a question that every single of

4630
03:02:49,900 --> 03:02:50,668
our constituents deserves an

4631
03:02:50,668 --> 03:02:51,368
answer to and we should be able

4632
03:02:51,368 --> 03:02:51,668
provide an accurate answer to

4633
03:02:51,668 --> 03:02:52,103
that.

4634
03:02:52,103 --> 03:02:52,469
>> Thank you.

4635
03:02:52,469 --> 03:02:54,469
All right.

4636
03:02:55,940 --> 03:02:56,640
So we have a motion by myself

4637
03:02:56,640 --> 03:02:57,407
in a second by council member

4638
03:02:57,407 --> 03:03:01,700
Eli Rivera to return this item

4639
03:03:02,212 --> 03:03:02,946
to staff And we'll go next to

4640
03:03:02,946 --> 03:03:03,646
Councilmember Whitman Just very

4641
03:03:03,646 --> 03:03:04,748
briefly I wanted to check and

4642
03:03:04,748 --> 03:03:08,348
see what is the timing because

4643
03:03:10,855 --> 03:03:11,355
I tried to work.

4644
03:03:11,355 --> 03:03:13,355
Councilmember Yes.

4645
03:03:17,298 --> 03:03:18,290
So you have our commitment that

4646
03:03:18,290 --> 03:03:18,329
we will come back at that time

4647
03:03:18,329 --> 03:03:19,300
frame.

4648
03:03:19,300 --> 03:03:22,599
We will have issued an rfp at

4649
03:03:22,599 --> 03:03:23,300
that point and we'll have a

4650
03:03:23,300 --> 03:03:24,100
full understanding about what

4651
03:03:24,100 --> 03:03:24,669
the local market will bear And

4652
03:03:24,669 --> 03:03:28,269
then you'll have in front of

4653
03:03:28,806 --> 03:03:29,540
you a determination with

4654
03:03:29,540 --> 03:03:30,107
the full facts about whether or

4655
03:03:30,107 --> 03:03:33,107
not the sole source is

4656
03:03:34,546 --> 03:03:35,412
appropriate at that time If not

4657
03:03:35,412 --> 03:03:36,800
if you choose not to vote for

4658
03:03:36,800 --> 03:03:36,781
the sole source at that time

4659
03:03:36,781 --> 03:03:39,781
based on information that's in

4660
03:03:40,284 --> 03:03:41,180
front of you will have a lapse

4661
03:03:41,180 --> 03:03:41,318
in the software package at that

4662
03:03:41,318 --> 03:03:41,986
time.

4663
03:03:41,986 --> 03:03:44,986
But we'll have to determine

4664
03:03:47,324 --> 03:03:47,725
the road forward at that point.

4665
03:03:47,725 --> 03:03:48,125
>> Okay.

4666
03:03:48,125 --> 03:03:48,493
Thank you.

4667
03:03:48,493 --> 03:03:49,126
All right.

4668
03:03:49,126 --> 03:03:52,126
I think that's my weapon.

4669
03:03:52,697 --> 03:03:53,498
We'll go next to council or

4670
03:03:53,498 --> 03:03:54,131
excuse me we'll go back to

4671
03:03:54,131 --> 03:03:54,499
Councilmember Bond Wolpert

4672
03:03:54,499 --> 03:03:55,660
Thank you.

4673
03:03:55,660 --> 03:03:57,466
>> I have a question.

4674
03:03:58,736 --> 03:03:59,337
What does the contract expire

4675
03:03:59,337 --> 03:04:01,737
SEPTEMBER 26th for What?

4676
03:04:03,975 --> 03:04:04,642
And we were back from put it

4677
03:04:04,642 --> 03:04:05,443
back on AUGUST 24th or 25th.

4678
03:04:05,443 --> 03:04:05,743
Okay So you can do it before

4679
03:04:05,743 --> 03:04:07,743
that?

4680
03:04:11,883 --> 03:04:12,583
Yeah I got to any vote for this

4681
03:04:12,583 --> 03:04:12,950
if it's expired So thank you.

4682
03:04:12,950 --> 03:04:14,950
All right.

4683
03:04:15,953 --> 03:04:16,621
Thank you Council member We'll

4684
03:04:16,621 --> 03:04:16,988
go to Councilmember Campbell

4685
03:04:16,988 --> 03:04:17,621
Thank you.

4686
03:04:17,621 --> 03:04:19,621
>> Council PRESIDENT Just

4687
03:04:21,926 --> 03:04:22,660
briefly want to make sure that

4688
03:04:22,660 --> 03:04:23,361
I understand what this is about

4689
03:04:23,361 --> 03:04:26,361
The oci, the overall condition

4690
03:04:27,865 --> 03:04:30,265
index for city assets.

4691
03:04:32,270 --> 03:04:33,370
I think I recall correctly that

4692
03:04:33,370 --> 03:04:33,637
in 2023 what is involved with

4693
03:04:33,637 --> 03:04:36,637
our streets in our city

4694
03:04:38,743 --> 03:04:39,444
throughout our city and I

4695
03:04:39,444 --> 03:04:40,144
believe that it has been many,

4696
03:04:40,144 --> 03:04:43,744
many years much more than four

4697
03:04:44,182 --> 03:04:44,882
I think even more than seven

4698
03:04:44,882 --> 03:04:45,516
since that kind of an

4699
03:04:45,516 --> 03:04:47,916
assessment had been made.

4700
03:04:51,189 --> 03:04:51,789
And I also think I recall that

4701
03:04:51,789 --> 03:04:54,789
they used some kind of

4702
03:04:56,694 --> 03:04:57,395
ultrasound to check on

4703
03:04:57,395 --> 03:04:57,962
the street And how many miles

4704
03:04:57,962 --> 03:04:58,763
of streets do we have?

4705
03:04:58,763 --> 03:05:01,763
It's an incredibly large number

4706
03:05:02,933 --> 03:05:03,334
of is a very large city about

4707
03:05:03,334 --> 03:05:05,334
6600 miles.

4708
03:05:07,839 --> 03:05:08,540
>> Well, I saw something in

4709
03:05:08,540 --> 03:05:10,940
your about 6600 lanes laneways

4710
03:05:14,479 --> 03:05:14,879
or something.

4711
03:05:14,879 --> 03:05:15,713
Correct.

4712
03:05:15,713 --> 03:05:20,250
Was lane way the same as a mile

4713
03:05:20,250 --> 03:05:20,552
Lane Miles Lane miles.

4714
03:05:20,552 --> 03:05:21,319
Okay.

4715
03:05:21,319 --> 03:05:21,719
So we're doing both sides of

4716
03:05:21,719 --> 03:05:23,719
the streets.

4717
03:05:25,230 --> 03:05:26,570
It's a lot at any rate.

4718
03:05:26,570 --> 03:05:26,758
>> Am I correct that it was an

4719
03:05:26,758 --> 03:05:29,758
ultrasound kind of a machine?

4720
03:05:32,297 --> 03:05:32,997
Yes, they do The laser when

4721
03:05:32,997 --> 03:05:33,698
they do the assessment they

4722
03:05:33,698 --> 03:05:34,331
have bands that does the laser

4723
03:05:34,331 --> 03:05:36,731
evaluation of the street.

4724
03:05:37,971 --> 03:05:38,670
So we're bouncing the light off

4725
03:05:38,670 --> 03:05:39,337
the street to see the depth of

4726
03:05:39,337 --> 03:05:42,937
the holes in the cracks etc.

4727
03:05:43,108 --> 03:05:43,408
Correct.

4728
03:05:43,408 --> 03:05:44,420
Okay.

4729
03:05:44,420 --> 03:05:44,776
Well my understanding at

4730
03:05:44,776 --> 03:05:48,976
the time was that that was kind

4731
03:05:50,810 --> 03:05:50,749
of a new process and that this

4732
03:05:50,749 --> 03:05:51,149
was one of the few companies

4733
03:05:51,149 --> 03:05:53,149
that did it.

4734
03:05:55,220 --> 03:05:55,920
Now am I correct in that or at

4735
03:05:55,920 --> 03:05:56,621
that time it seemed like that

4736
03:05:56,621 --> 03:06:00,221
was the only people who really

4737
03:06:01,126 --> 03:06:02,930
could do this Is the really we

4738
03:06:02,930 --> 03:06:05,693
think there is other if you're

4739
03:06:07,432 --> 03:06:08,990
referring to the pavement

4740
03:06:08,990 --> 03:06:08,800
condition assessment Council

4741
03:06:08,800 --> 03:06:09,367
member that that one is we're

4742
03:06:09,367 --> 03:06:12,367
doing the rfp for that

4743
03:06:13,772 --> 03:06:14,439
currently We just pass that on

4744
03:06:14,439 --> 03:06:16,839
to purchasing contracting to

4745
03:06:19,844 --> 03:06:20,745
build an advertisement so that

4746
03:06:20,745 --> 03:06:21,480
is in route to to be advertise.

4747
03:06:21,480 --> 03:06:24,480
>> Okay so this contract is

4748
03:06:25,917 --> 03:06:26,618
only for the software that

4749
03:06:26,618 --> 03:06:27,118
the software correct Then goes

4750
03:06:27,118 --> 03:06:29,118
our pci evaluation

4751
03:06:31,857 --> 03:06:32,557
the deterioration curve

4752
03:06:32,557 --> 03:06:33,158
modeling and so and then

4753
03:06:33,158 --> 03:06:35,158
the recommendations for

4754
03:06:37,629 --> 03:06:37,996
treatments It's that computer

4755
03:06:37,996 --> 03:06:38,663
software.

4756
03:06:38,663 --> 03:06:39,364
>> Okay well I agree with us

4757
03:06:39,364 --> 03:06:42,964
Let's let's get it back there.

4758
03:06:43,768 --> 03:06:44,470
Let's do the rfp.

4759
03:06:44,470 --> 03:06:45,170
Let's change policy though so

4760
03:06:45,170 --> 03:06:47,570
that whenever something comes

4761
03:06:49,941 --> 03:06:50,809
up we do an rfp.

4762
03:06:50,809 --> 03:06:51,576
I suggest we start at least 12

4763
03:06:51,576 --> 03:06:54,513
months at a time because if

4764
03:06:54,513 --> 03:06:55,180
you're doing the three

4765
03:06:55,180 --> 03:06:55,847
different departments as you

4766
03:06:55,847 --> 03:06:56,448
mentioned, it takes a lot of

4767
03:06:56,448 --> 03:06:59,448
time for somebody to get

4768
03:06:59,985 --> 03:07:00,786
together and get on the same

4769
03:07:00,786 --> 03:07:04,986
page, etc. So I think I think

4770
03:07:06,691 --> 03:07:07,392
we should start earlier and I'm

4771
03:07:07,392 --> 03:07:08,600
glad that we're going to send

4772
03:07:08,600 --> 03:07:08,894
it back and you're going to

4773
03:07:08,894 --> 03:07:12,397
have a lot of work to do pretty

4774
03:07:12,397 --> 03:07:13,980
quickly here.

4775
03:07:13,980 --> 03:07:13,799
There MAY be other companies

4776
03:07:13,799 --> 03:07:14,433
that in the ensuing three four

4777
03:07:14,433 --> 03:07:17,936
years have come up with a

4778
03:07:17,936 --> 03:07:19,300
method of doing it.

4779
03:07:19,300 --> 03:07:19,770
As I recall, it took a year or

4780
03:07:19,770 --> 03:07:22,770
two before that actual physical

4781
03:07:24,109 --> 03:07:24,977
assessment of the oci took

4782
03:07:24,977 --> 03:07:25,877
place and then we had to put it

4783
03:07:25,877 --> 03:07:29,477
into computers and get it all

4784
03:07:29,748 --> 03:07:30,582
organized right?

4785
03:07:30,582 --> 03:07:34,782
So it's a long process and it's

4786
03:07:35,120 --> 03:07:35,787
very worthwhile and it shows us

4787
03:07:35,787 --> 03:07:36,254
which streets should be our

4788
03:07:36,254 --> 03:07:37,255
priority to fix.

4789
03:07:37,255 --> 03:07:41,455
And so I think it is very

4790
03:07:41,492 --> 03:07:42,161
important.

4791
03:07:42,161 --> 03:07:42,861
I'm glad it's going back.

4792
03:07:42,861 --> 03:07:43,528
I'll be supportive of that and

4793
03:07:43,528 --> 03:07:47,128
I wish you luck in speeding

4794
03:07:47,599 --> 03:07:48,300
things up and being a little

4795
03:07:48,300 --> 03:07:49,100
bit more on top And I'm

4796
03:07:49,100 --> 03:07:52,100
interested in what the number

4797
03:07:53,605 --> 03:07:54,340
of people show in regard to

4798
03:07:54,340 --> 03:07:54,806
actually measuring the problems

4799
03:07:54,806 --> 03:07:56,806
in the streets.

4800
03:07:59,244 --> 03:07:59,745
Thank you.

4801
03:07:59,745 --> 03:08:00,446
All right.

4802
03:08:00,446 --> 03:08:01,146
Thank you Council member Okay.

4803
03:08:01,146 --> 03:08:05,346
So the motion on the floor is

4804
03:08:05,984 --> 03:08:06,718
to return it to staff.

4805
03:08:06,718 --> 03:08:07,319
I made the motion Councilmember

4806
03:08:07,319 --> 03:08:09,319
Sheila Rivera Seconded.

4807
03:08:09,588 --> 03:08:10,422
Clerk Please call the roll.

4808
03:08:10,422 --> 03:08:13,422
>> I'm sorry The voting system

4809
03:08:15,828 --> 03:08:18,828
Please cast your vote That

4810
03:08:21,834 --> 03:08:22,401
passes unanimously 7 to 0 with

4811
03:08:22,401 --> 03:08:23,102
Council Councilmember

4812
03:08:23,102 --> 03:08:23,636
originally Councilmember Campo

4813
03:08:23,636 --> 03:08:24,168
Absent the accounts.

4814
03:08:24,168 --> 03:08:26,168
PRESIDENT All right.

4815
03:08:27,406 --> 03:08:28,107
Thank you to everybody in

4816
03:08:28,107 --> 03:08:28,674
the Transportation Department

4817
03:08:28,674 --> 03:08:31,740
And now getting these

4818
03:08:32,778 --> 03:08:33,345
conversations and the work you

4819
03:08:33,345 --> 03:08:34,212
do for us every day.

4820
03:08:34,212 --> 03:08:38,284
So with that we will now take

4821
03:08:38,284 --> 03:08:38,951
up non agenda public comment

4822
03:08:38,951 --> 03:08:39,685
Council members respect and

4823
03:08:39,685 --> 03:08:40,251
appreciate the public input and

4824
03:08:40,251 --> 03:08:40,952
are fully committed to

4825
03:08:40,952 --> 03:08:42,952
protecting every participant's

4826
03:08:45,224 --> 03:08:45,824
free speech rights at council

4827
03:08:45,824 --> 03:08:46,491
and committee meetings.

4828
03:08:46,491 --> 03:08:46,959
>> Clerk Please proceed with

4829
03:08:46,959 --> 03:08:47,326
public comment.

4830
03:08:47,326 --> 03:08:49,326
Thank you.

4831
03:08:51,564 --> 03:08:52,231
Council PRESIDENT For all $2.7

4832
03:08:52,231 --> 03:08:52,864
million public comment is an

4833
03:08:52,864 --> 03:08:53,566
opportunity for members of

4834
03:08:53,566 --> 03:08:56,702
the public to comment on items

4835
03:08:56,702 --> 03:08:57,336
that are not on the agenda but

4836
03:08:57,336 --> 03:08:57,937
within the subject matter

4837
03:08:57,937 --> 03:08:58,270
jurisdiction of the City

4838
03:08:58,270 --> 03:08:58,904
Council.

4839
03:08:58,904 --> 03:08:59,237
Each speaker will have two

4840
03:08:59,237 --> 03:09:01,237
minutes.

4841
03:09:01,640 --> 03:09:02,341
Please note if there are eight

4842
03:09:02,341 --> 03:09:02,974
or more speakers on a single

4843
03:09:02,974 --> 03:09:03,642
topic either in-person or

4844
03:09:03,642 --> 03:09:06,642
virtual the maximum time for

4845
03:09:08,460 --> 03:09:08,714
the topic will be 16 minutes.

4846
03:09:08,714 --> 03:09:09,348
If you're in chambers please

4847
03:09:09,348 --> 03:09:10,480
submit your speaker slip.

4848
03:09:10,480 --> 03:09:13,480
If you're joining us virtually

4849
03:09:13,319 --> 03:09:14,190
please raise your hand to speak

4850
03:09:14,190 --> 03:09:14,587
by tapping the raise your hand

4851
03:09:14,587 --> 03:09:15,287
icon or if your card

4852
03:09:15,287 --> 03:09:18,287
participants start nine we can

4853
03:09:18,858 --> 03:09:19,425
have Kate Callaghan please come

4854
03:09:19,425 --> 03:09:20,159
up to the microphone.

4855
03:09:20,159 --> 03:09:23,759
After that we have Paul Kruger,

4856
03:09:25,431 --> 03:09:26,131
Yusef Miller, Maximilian

4857
03:09:26,131 --> 03:09:26,866
Schmidt and allegedly Audra if

4858
03:09:26,866 --> 03:09:30,466
you all can please come forward

4859
03:09:31,137 --> 03:09:31,871
to the front row for better

4860
03:09:31,871 --> 03:09:32,571
meeting management you can come

4861
03:09:32,571 --> 03:09:36,171
up to the microphone and begin

4862
03:09:37,243 --> 03:09:37,643
when ready for that.

4863
03:09:37,643 --> 03:09:39,643
Much better.

4864
03:09:42,448 --> 03:09:43,215
Thank you.

4865
03:09:43,215 --> 03:09:43,916
My comments have to do with

4866
03:09:43,916 --> 03:09:47,516
the closure of the Mission Bay

4867
03:09:47,687 --> 03:09:48,287
restrooms On JULY 10th

4868
03:09:48,287 --> 03:09:48,955
the Union-Tribune ran an

4869
03:09:48,955 --> 03:09:50,955
editorial headlined Petulant

4870
03:09:53,626 --> 03:09:54,327
City Closes Mission Bay

4871
03:09:54,327 --> 03:09:54,693
Bathrooms to Punish Tax Weary

4872
03:09:54,693 --> 03:09:56,693
Residents.

4873
03:09:59,331 --> 03:10:00,320
The editors wrote this This

4874
03:10:00,320 --> 03:10:00,733
decision isn't just obscenely

4875
03:10:00,733 --> 03:10:03,733
elitist it's also dangerous on

4876
03:10:05,505 --> 03:10:06,371
public health grounds.

4877
03:10:06,371 --> 03:10:07,390
It is a punishment aimed at San

4878
03:10:07,390 --> 03:10:09,439
Diegans who are increasingly

4879
03:10:11,110 --> 03:10:11,744
hostile to the constant push

4880
03:10:11,744 --> 03:10:14,744
for higher fees and taxes.

4881
03:10:16,480 --> 03:10:16,415
And the savings are tiny

4882
03:10:16,415 --> 03:10:18,415
$546,000.

4883
03:10:21,530 --> 03:10:21,721
You could get that amount by

4884
03:10:21,721 --> 03:10:22,880
eliminating five vacant city

4885
03:10:22,880 --> 03:10:22,822
positions.

4886
03:10:22,822 --> 03:10:26,422
It's time for residents to rise

4887
03:10:27,560 --> 03:10:28,293
up and demand that elected

4888
03:10:28,293 --> 03:10:31,293
leaders and their petty assault

4889
03:10:32,865 --> 03:10:33,366
on their own constituents.

4890
03:10:33,366 --> 03:10:34,200
Enough is enough.

4891
03:10:34,200 --> 03:10:38,400
How many of you have ever been

4892
03:10:39,108 --> 03:10:39,806
at Mission Bay Park with a four

4893
03:10:39,806 --> 03:10:40,306
year old who desperately needs

4894
03:10:40,306 --> 03:10:42,706
to use a restroom?

4895
03:10:45,378 --> 03:10:46,790
Anybody?

4896
03:10:46,790 --> 03:10:46,813
If you'd had that experience

4897
03:10:46,813 --> 03:10:50,413
you would know why this rather

4898
03:10:51,840 --> 03:10:51,751
small funding cut is having

4899
03:10:51,751 --> 03:10:52,352
such a large impact and it

4900
03:10:52,352 --> 03:10:54,352
seems incredibly cruel.

4901
03:10:57,456 --> 03:10:58,570
The Union-Tribune suggests

4902
03:10:58,570 --> 03:10:58,591
payroll cuts to restore

4903
03:10:58,591 --> 03:10:59,125
the funding to keep

4904
03:10:59,125 --> 03:11:01,125
the bathrooms open.

4905
03:11:03,496 --> 03:11:04,130
We know you won't do that.

4906
03:11:04,130 --> 03:11:04,497
You will not part with

4907
03:11:04,497 --> 03:11:05,198
the staff.

4908
03:11:05,198 --> 03:11:08,798
So let me suggest another way

4909
03:11:09,669 --> 03:11:10,369
to pay for mission Bay

4910
03:11:10,369 --> 03:11:13,369
Bathrooms To stay open you're

4911
03:11:14,607 --> 03:11:15,174
going to spend 2.2 million to

4912
03:11:15,174 --> 03:11:15,708
remodel a walkway near

4913
03:11:15,708 --> 03:11:16,209
the Santa Fe depot.

4914
03:11:16,209 --> 03:11:18,209
Think about that.

4915
03:11:20,380 --> 03:11:21,470
You can find $2 million to

4916
03:11:21,470 --> 03:11:21,748
beautify a downtown alleyway

4917
03:11:21,748 --> 03:11:25,348
but you can't find a half

4918
03:11:26,953 --> 03:11:27,520
million to keep public public

4919
03:11:27,520 --> 03:11:29,520
beach restrooms open.

4920
03:11:32,692 --> 03:11:33,393
So think about this.

4921
03:11:33,393 --> 03:11:33,960
Get rid of some of

4922
03:11:33,960 --> 03:11:34,527
the embellishments on

4923
03:11:34,527 --> 03:11:34,961
the beautification of

4924
03:11:34,961 --> 03:11:36,961
the alleyway.

4925
03:11:37,497 --> 03:11:38,970
Take 600,000 out of that

4926
03:11:38,970 --> 03:11:38,798
project and put it into

4927
03:11:38,798 --> 03:11:39,265
the Mission bay bathrooms and

4928
03:11:39,265 --> 03:11:41,265
keep them open.

4929
03:11:44,169 --> 03:11:44,838
It's not too late.

4930
03:11:44,838 --> 03:11:45,538
>> You can do this.

4931
03:11:45,538 --> 03:11:45,872
Thank you for that comforting

4932
03:11:45,872 --> 03:11:47,872
comment.

4933
03:11:49,509 --> 03:11:49,809
Paula Kruger Thank you very

4934
03:11:49,809 --> 03:11:50,477
much.

4935
03:11:50,477 --> 03:11:51,111
I'm also here to talk about

4936
03:11:51,111 --> 03:11:53,511
the Mission bay restrooms.

4937
03:11:55,150 --> 03:11:55,448
You've seen this map of

4938
03:11:55,448 --> 03:11:56,182
the closures.

4939
03:11:56,182 --> 03:12:00,720
I don't know how you do it but

4940
03:12:00,720 --> 03:12:01,870
you need to reopen these

4941
03:12:01,870 --> 03:12:01,687
restrooms.

4942
03:12:01,687 --> 03:12:02,389
It's vitally important.

4943
03:12:02,389 --> 03:12:05,989
It's a matter of public health

4944
03:12:06,359 --> 03:12:07,590
as you've read just a personal

4945
03:12:07,590 --> 03:12:07,760
note, you have a comment from

4946
03:12:07,760 --> 03:12:11,360
someone who's urging you to do

4947
03:12:12,531 --> 03:12:13,333
whatever it takes to keep them

4948
03:12:13,333 --> 03:12:14,670
open and said that they have a

4949
03:12:14,670 --> 03:12:16,467
intestinal bowel disease called

4950
03:12:18,438 --> 03:12:19,206
Crohn's disease.

4951
03:12:19,206 --> 03:12:19,506
I had ulcerative colitis for 12

4952
03:12:19,506 --> 03:12:20,140
years.

4953
03:12:20,140 --> 03:12:23,140
You know there's a hundred

4954
03:12:24,678 --> 03:12:25,545
hundreds of thousands of people

4955
03:12:25,545 --> 03:12:26,280
who need to use the bathroom

4956
03:12:26,280 --> 03:12:26,946
when they need to use it and

4957
03:12:26,946 --> 03:12:29,946
that would mean not giving

4958
03:12:29,983 --> 03:12:30,350
the mission back for these

4959
03:12:30,350 --> 03:12:31,500
closures.

4960
03:12:31,500 --> 03:12:31,351
I am not going to cast any

4961
03:12:31,351 --> 03:12:33,351
blame.

4962
03:12:36,356 --> 03:12:37,570
I'm not going to make any

4963
03:12:37,570 --> 03:12:37,457
references to motivation about

4964
03:12:37,457 --> 03:12:39,457
punishment.

4965
03:12:41,762 --> 03:12:42,462
I don't care what it is or why

4966
03:12:42,462 --> 03:12:42,929
we've done this But they need

4967
03:12:42,929 --> 03:12:44,929
to be reopened.

4968
03:12:46,660 --> 03:12:46,767
There's nine city council

4969
03:12:46,767 --> 03:12:49,767
offices in the mayor's office

4970
03:12:50,704 --> 03:12:51,138
that makes 1050 $4,000 from

4971
03:12:51,138 --> 03:12:51,872
each of you.

4972
03:12:51,872 --> 03:12:54,872
Kate suggestion about the alley

4973
03:12:56,143 --> 03:12:56,910
is an excellent one.

4974
03:12:56,910 --> 03:12:57,644
Look, if you can't find

4975
03:12:57,644 --> 03:13:01,244
the money I guarantee you there

4976
03:13:02,615 --> 03:13:03,283
are volunteer groups out there.

4977
03:13:03,283 --> 03:13:03,884
I ran with them there.

4978
03:13:03,884 --> 03:13:05,884
They're joggers, there's

4979
03:13:08,654 --> 03:13:09,589
walkers.

4980
03:13:09,589 --> 03:13:09,957
How many five kids can we have

4981
03:13:09,957 --> 03:13:10,657
out there?

4982
03:13:10,657 --> 03:13:11,158
There are people who will man

4983
03:13:11,158 --> 03:13:13,158
these restaurants.

4984
03:13:13,660 --> 03:13:14,328
I mean these restrooms If you

4985
03:13:14,328 --> 03:13:15,128
can make some agreement with

4986
03:13:15,128 --> 03:13:18,632
labor groups if that's what it

4987
03:13:18,632 --> 03:13:20,632
takes.

4988
03:13:24,170 --> 03:13:24,770
Lastly, I just want to say that

4989
03:13:24,770 --> 03:13:25,171
I understand the budget

4990
03:13:25,171 --> 03:13:27,171
restraints.

4991
03:13:29,209 --> 03:13:29,910
I hope that you at the same

4992
03:13:29,910 --> 03:13:32,310
time understand the skepticism

4993
03:13:35,582 --> 03:13:36,349
and frustration of voters And

4994
03:13:36,349 --> 03:13:39,349
if if 100,000 people could have

4995
03:13:40,988 --> 03:13:41,555
heard what you just heard about

4996
03:13:41,555 --> 03:13:44,555
what I will say is

4997
03:13:45,926 --> 03:13:46,627
the incompetence of the city

4998
03:13:46,627 --> 03:13:47,361
staff, then maybe you would

4999
03:13:47,361 --> 03:13:50,361
understand again why people are

5000
03:13:51,731 --> 03:13:52,499
reticent to vote.

5001
03:13:52,499 --> 03:13:53,330
>> Thank you for that

5002
03:13:53,330 --> 03:13:53,734
concluding comment.

5003
03:13:53,734 --> 03:13:57,334
Yusef Miller If you can please

5004
03:14:02,409 --> 03:14:03,176
come forward.

5005
03:14:03,176 --> 03:14:03,777
>> My name is Yusef Miller

5006
03:14:03,777 --> 03:14:04,511
Saving lives in Custody

5007
03:14:04,511 --> 03:14:07,511
California and it is impossible

5008
03:14:07,613 --> 03:14:08,315
for me to overstate how

5009
03:14:08,315 --> 03:14:11,315
impactful MISS Kelly Davis was

5010
03:14:13,512 --> 03:14:13,663
to the entire county of San

5011
03:14:13,663 --> 03:14:13,814
Diego.

5012
03:14:13,814 --> 03:14:14,321
And I want to highlight some of

5013
03:14:14,321 --> 03:14:17,921
the things that makes her such

5014
03:14:18,658 --> 03:14:19,326
a giant in our county that

5015
03:14:19,326 --> 03:14:19,927
impacted not only our county

5016
03:14:19,927 --> 03:14:20,327
but the entire state of

5017
03:14:20,327 --> 03:14:22,327
California.

5018
03:14:23,864 --> 03:14:24,598
In her research on in-custody

5019
03:14:24,598 --> 03:14:25,399
deaths in San Diego County from

5020
03:14:25,399 --> 03:14:29,169
city beat all the way up to

5021
03:14:29,169 --> 03:14:29,870
Union-Tribune galvanized a

5022
03:14:29,870 --> 03:14:30,570
organization of people making

5023
03:14:30,570 --> 03:14:34,770
sure if we want to make change

5024
03:14:34,875 --> 03:14:35,542
to that called Saving Lives in

5025
03:14:35,542 --> 03:14:36,176
Custody campaign that saving

5026
03:14:36,176 --> 03:14:38,576
lives in custody campaign

5027
03:14:39,780 --> 03:14:40,481
inspired people to encourage

5028
03:14:40,481 --> 03:14:41,214
the state to come in and look

5029
03:14:41,214 --> 03:14:44,214
at San Diego County on

5030
03:14:45,286 --> 03:14:45,986
the in-custody death rate That

5031
03:14:45,986 --> 03:14:49,586
audit came in and decided that

5032
03:14:50,591 --> 03:14:51,291
we have problems that we need

5033
03:14:51,291 --> 03:14:54,891
to fix that sponsor a saving

5034
03:14:55,830 --> 03:14:56,597
the Lives and Custody Act that

5035
03:14:56,597 --> 03:14:57,231
was done by DR. Akilah Weber at

5036
03:14:57,231 --> 03:15:00,231
the time she was assembly

5037
03:15:01,268 --> 03:15:01,902
member and that bill made

5038
03:15:01,902 --> 03:15:03,902
changes towards in-custody

5039
03:15:06,207 --> 03:15:06,907
deaths with the pcc with a

5040
03:15:06,907 --> 03:15:09,907
companion bill sb 519 Both of

5041
03:15:11,411 --> 03:15:11,946
those passed into law from

5042
03:15:11,946 --> 03:15:12,646
the background of in

5043
03:15:12,646 --> 03:15:16,246
the foundation of the work of

5044
03:15:16,951 --> 03:15:17,618
Kelly Davis when when this

5045
03:15:17,618 --> 03:15:18,285
happened all of the state is

5046
03:15:18,285 --> 03:15:21,285
looking at San Diego what's

5047
03:15:22,323 --> 03:15:22,957
going on impact of family

5048
03:15:22,957 --> 03:15:23,657
members that saw how they

5049
03:15:23,657 --> 03:15:27,257
the family members here in San

5050
03:15:27,293 --> 03:15:27,995
Diego were represented they

5051
03:15:27,995 --> 03:15:28,662
also started doing the same

5052
03:15:28,662 --> 03:15:31,620
things in Riverside County,

5053
03:15:32,533 --> 03:15:32,966
L.A. County, northern state in

5054
03:15:32,966 --> 03:15:33,634
Orange County.

5055
03:15:33,634 --> 03:15:36,340
Everybody were inspired and

5056
03:15:38,171 --> 03:15:38,873
stood up on the foundation of

5057
03:15:38,873 --> 03:15:41,873
Kelly Davis and Jeff McDonald.

5058
03:15:42,610 --> 03:15:43,377
This cannot be overstated on

5059
03:15:43,377 --> 03:15:47,548
the value that it has to people

5060
03:15:47,548 --> 03:15:47,848
who have lost lives in custody

5061
03:15:47,848 --> 03:15:48,549
.

5062
03:15:48,549 --> 03:15:49,383
These lives are on retrievable

5063
03:15:49,383 --> 03:15:53,654
But what we can do and what we

5064
03:15:53,654 --> 03:15:54,322
have been doing in jail and

5065
03:15:54,322 --> 03:15:55,220
police reform is making sure

5066
03:15:55,220 --> 03:15:55,389
that there are no more Elisa's

5067
03:15:55,389 --> 03:15:57,389
attorneys.

5068
03:15:58,426 --> 03:15:59,193
There are no more Matthew

5069
03:15:59,193 --> 03:15:59,794
Settles, there are no more

5070
03:15:59,794 --> 03:16:02,763
Heather Mills and so on.

5071
03:16:02,763 --> 03:16:03,364
>> All of that is based on

5072
03:16:03,364 --> 03:16:03,864
the work of Kelly Davis.

5073
03:16:03,864 --> 03:16:04,598
>> Thank you.

5074
03:16:04,598 --> 03:16:06,234
Thank you Maximilian Schmidt if

5075
03:16:06,234 --> 03:16:09,834
you can please and please come

5076
03:16:11,439 --> 03:16:13,439
forward.

5077
03:16:16,410 --> 03:16:17,145
>> Hi.

5078
03:16:17,145 --> 03:16:20,145
I'm really excited to spearhead

5079
03:16:20,748 --> 03:16:21,449
this new idea that is

5080
03:16:21,449 --> 03:16:24,449
forecasted to actually be in

5081
03:16:25,686 --> 03:16:26,487
every urban city urban center

5082
03:16:26,487 --> 03:16:27,188
in America as soon as the price

5083
03:16:27,188 --> 03:16:29,588
of electric bicycles, electric

5084
03:16:31,426 --> 03:16:34,426
scooters or electric one wheels

5085
03:16:36,130 --> 03:16:36,797
on an electric skateboards gets

5086
03:16:36,797 --> 03:16:37,498
cheaper, it's projected that

5087
03:16:37,498 --> 03:16:41,980
more and more cities are going

5088
03:16:41,202 --> 03:16:41,869
to have complete ban on all

5089
03:16:41,869 --> 03:16:44,269
electric powered modes of

5090
03:16:46,307 --> 03:16:46,874
transportation on strictly

5091
03:16:46,874 --> 03:16:47,575
the sidewalks that is

5092
03:16:47,575 --> 03:16:49,975
forecasted that every American

5093
03:16:51,145 --> 03:16:54,745
city is going to completely ban

5094
03:16:55,750 --> 03:16:56,451
electric powered things on

5095
03:16:56,451 --> 03:16:57,118
sidewalks And San Diego is

5096
03:16:57,118 --> 03:17:00,718
known as one of the most

5097
03:17:00,822 --> 03:17:01,589
walkable cities.

5098
03:17:01,589 --> 03:17:05,159
So we can spearhead the United

5099
03:17:05,159 --> 03:17:05,894
States of America and making

5100
03:17:05,894 --> 03:17:06,628
our sidewalks more comfortable

5101
03:17:06,628 --> 03:17:09,628
and safer knowing the projected

5102
03:17:10,998 --> 03:17:11,699
price of electric scooters,

5103
03:17:11,699 --> 03:17:14,699
Skateboards are going to just

5104
03:17:16,137 --> 03:17:16,970
get cheaper and cheaper.

5105
03:17:16,970 --> 03:17:20,642
And how do we do this though?

5106
03:17:20,642 --> 03:17:21,409
Because this is a big change.

5107
03:17:21,409 --> 03:17:22,110
How do we do this without

5108
03:17:22,110 --> 03:17:24,510
seeming almost tyrannical and

5109
03:17:25,460 --> 03:17:26,140
how do we do this fast?

5110
03:17:26,140 --> 03:17:30,510
I would like to try and fast

5111
03:17:30,510 --> 03:17:30,752
track to this and I've even

5112
03:17:30,752 --> 03:17:31,486
almost been killed by electric

5113
03:17:31,486 --> 03:17:32,153
scooter walking down the street

5114
03:17:32,153 --> 03:17:34,889
and it can be traumatizing.

5115
03:17:34,889 --> 03:17:35,757
I say the fast track to this

5116
03:17:35,757 --> 03:17:38,960
MAY be on our local news We say

5117
03:17:38,960 --> 03:17:39,761
we're going to take a vote of

5118
03:17:39,761 --> 03:17:40,461
do you think we should ban all

5119
03:17:40,461 --> 03:17:42,461
electric motor transportation

5120
03:17:43,464 --> 03:17:44,650
And I think it overwhelmingly

5121
03:17:44,650 --> 03:17:44,932
people would vote yes.

5122
03:17:44,932 --> 03:17:48,135
And for what it's worth if you

5123
03:17:48,135 --> 03:17:48,837
are all like a skilled like

5124
03:17:48,837 --> 03:17:49,704
electric skateboard or whatnot

5125
03:17:49,704 --> 03:17:53,904
on many streets you can ride it

5126
03:17:53,975 --> 03:17:54,642
safely on the street with a

5127
03:17:54,642 --> 03:17:58,242
helmet And also we spend so

5128
03:17:58,813 --> 03:17:59,413
much money on busses and

5129
03:17:59,413 --> 03:18:00,115
the trolley and modes of

5130
03:18:00,115 --> 03:18:02,515
transportation that people can

5131
03:18:03,221 --> 03:18:04,180
use to keep our sidewalks

5132
03:18:04,180 --> 03:18:07,618
peaceful that it's a shame that

5133
03:18:08,455 --> 03:18:09,190
an electric powered scooter or

5134
03:18:09,190 --> 03:18:12,190
something can ruin the sidewalk

5135
03:18:12,360 --> 03:18:13,610
and we spend so much money on

5136
03:18:13,610 --> 03:18:13,662
the trolley or on busses that

5137
03:18:13,662 --> 03:18:16,620
are other modes of

5138
03:18:16,965 --> 03:18:17,732
transportation.

5139
03:18:17,732 --> 03:18:18,432
>> Thank you for that

5140
03:18:18,432 --> 03:18:19,100
concluding comment allegedly.

5141
03:18:19,100 --> 03:18:22,700
Andre if you can please come

5142
03:18:27,242 --> 03:18:27,942
forward talk about in

5143
03:18:27,942 --> 03:18:31,145
the shower or be in the role

5144
03:18:31,145 --> 03:18:31,413
that dirty business is going

5145
03:18:31,413 --> 03:18:32,213
on.

5146
03:18:32,213 --> 03:18:33,114
It's so interesting to be a fly

5147
03:18:33,114 --> 03:18:36,885
on the wall and see all these

5148
03:18:36,885 --> 03:18:37,418
like eye raises going on like

5149
03:18:37,418 --> 03:18:39,818
oh we're in trouble.

5150
03:18:41,823 --> 03:18:42,123
Oh, just Broadway snub you so

5151
03:18:42,123 --> 03:18:44,123
good.

5152
03:18:46,261 --> 03:18:46,962
>> And speaking of that, I'd

5153
03:18:46,962 --> 03:18:47,662
like to speak of the malicious

5154
03:18:47,662 --> 03:18:50,662
nepotism that took place last

5155
03:18:51,333 --> 03:18:52,670
week with the Emerald Hills

5156
03:18:52,670 --> 03:18:52,701
though that was totally illegal

5157
03:18:52,701 --> 03:18:55,701
because this item was not

5158
03:18:56,370 --> 03:18:59,370
noticed properly And the fact

5159
03:19:00,800 --> 03:19:00,775
that Monica Montgomery step got

5160
03:19:00,775 --> 03:19:01,543
five minutes to come in and she

5161
03:19:01,543 --> 03:19:04,543
spoke and her mother spoke

5162
03:19:05,146 --> 03:19:05,814
right And they have a

5163
03:19:05,814 --> 03:19:08,214
construction company who is

5164
03:19:09,717 --> 03:19:10,850
contracted to work on this

5165
03:19:10,850 --> 03:19:10,719
contract.

5166
03:19:10,719 --> 03:19:12,719
>> So that's interesting.

5167
03:19:15,324 --> 03:19:15,990
And then I wonder Henry, I mean

5168
03:19:15,990 --> 03:19:16,691
is your construction company

5169
03:19:16,691 --> 03:19:19,828
too or is that going to go

5170
03:19:19,828 --> 03:19:20,428
through the services that

5171
03:19:20,428 --> 03:19:21,960
the Montgomery's provide

5172
03:19:21,960 --> 03:19:21,462
probably to hook your family

5173
03:19:21,462 --> 03:19:23,462
up, Right?

5174
03:19:24,767 --> 03:19:25,567
That's why you guys told me

5175
03:19:25,567 --> 03:19:28,567
screwed over your community by

5176
03:19:30,172 --> 03:19:30,906
using them using the black

5177
03:19:30,906 --> 03:19:31,740
community saying we want to get

5178
03:19:31,740 --> 03:19:34,776
you guys in housing which will

5179
03:19:34,776 --> 03:19:35,343
Montgomery's will benefit from

5180
03:19:35,343 --> 03:19:35,911
from the real estate.

5181
03:19:35,911 --> 03:19:37,911
So that's interesting.

5182
03:19:39,715 --> 03:19:40,515
I mean even Steve is so stupid

5183
03:19:40,515 --> 03:19:41,183
to go online and admit to

5184
03:19:41,183 --> 03:19:44,783
the money that's going to be

5185
03:19:44,987 --> 03:19:45,653
made by that family like Monica

5186
03:19:45,653 --> 03:19:46,154
Price should real women you

5187
03:19:46,154 --> 03:19:48,554
know what I mean?

5188
03:19:49,910 --> 03:19:49,791
Instead of having to me and

5189
03:19:49,791 --> 03:19:50,492
like well what about all these

5190
03:19:50,492 --> 03:19:51,159
other companies that are going

5191
03:19:51,159 --> 03:19:53,695
to make money off of this

5192
03:19:53,695 --> 03:19:54,563
project?

5193
03:19:54,563 --> 03:19:54,830
>> Should we be looking at them

5194
03:19:54,830 --> 03:19:55,396
too?

5195
03:19:55,396 --> 03:19:57,796
And what's secure huh?

5196
03:19:59,340 --> 03:19:59,701
So it's like fraud can continue

5197
03:19:59,701 --> 03:20:02,701
because people are going to

5198
03:20:03,672 --> 03:20:04,239
make money and all while you

5199
03:20:04,239 --> 03:20:04,606
guys gaslight your own

5200
03:20:04,606 --> 03:20:06,606
community.

5201
03:20:08,744 --> 03:20:09,711
>> How sad is that Waiting for

5202
03:20:09,711 --> 03:20:13,311
50 years for a park and they're

5203
03:20:13,315 --> 03:20:14,182
horribly against that project

5204
03:20:14,182 --> 03:20:17,653
and you guys put profit over

5205
03:20:17,653 --> 03:20:18,253
people.

5206
03:20:18,253 --> 03:20:19,121
It's so sad.

5207
03:20:19,121 --> 03:20:22,721
It's so sad because that was

5208
03:20:22,891 --> 03:20:23,592
totally illegally done and I

5209
03:20:23,592 --> 03:20:26,592
hope the community stalls this

5210
03:20:27,262 --> 03:20:28,630
project and to no avail because

5211
03:20:28,630 --> 03:20:31,630
of your guys's own negligence.

5212
03:20:32,468 --> 03:20:33,202
>> Good job.

5213
03:20:33,202 --> 03:20:33,735
>> I started the five minute

5214
03:20:33,735 --> 03:20:34,335
timer going to those

5215
03:20:34,335 --> 03:20:35,360
participating remotely.

5216
03:20:35,360 --> 03:20:36,104
We currently have 16 people in

5217
03:20:36,104 --> 03:20:37,138
the queue.

5218
03:20:37,138 --> 03:20:40,738
>> Tell me if you can please

5219
03:20:41,900 --> 03:20:41,409
unmute.

5220
03:20:41,409 --> 03:20:41,977
>> Yes.

5221
03:20:41,977 --> 03:20:42,277
Can you hear me?

5222
03:20:42,277 --> 03:20:44,277
Yes.

5223
03:20:45,748 --> 03:20:46,615
Please proceed.

5224
03:20:46,615 --> 03:20:50,215
Yes I wanted to start by

5225
03:20:50,319 --> 03:20:51,860
thanking you City Clerk Diana

5226
03:20:51,860 --> 03:20:51,754
Fuentes and I want to thank

5227
03:20:51,754 --> 03:20:52,421
Council PRESIDENT Joe LaCava

5228
03:20:52,421 --> 03:20:55,421
for the tremendous work that

5229
03:20:55,791 --> 03:20:56,358
you all did couple of weeks ago

5230
03:20:56,358 --> 03:20:56,958
with saving the group

5231
03:20:56,958 --> 03:20:58,958
presentations that were

5232
03:21:00,862 --> 03:21:03,262
potentially on the chopping

5233
03:21:03,999 --> 03:21:04,666
block in some places due to sb

5234
03:21:04,666 --> 03:21:05,334
707 Fantastic job on saving

5235
03:21:05,334 --> 03:21:07,734
group presentations and not

5236
03:21:08,971 --> 03:21:09,771
only saving them but extending

5237
03:21:09,771 --> 03:21:13,742
them and enabling us to be able

5238
03:21:13,742 --> 03:21:14,643
to conduct them online.

5239
03:21:14,643 --> 03:21:15,477
I can't tell you how beneficial

5240
03:21:15,477 --> 03:21:18,781
that is to someone like me who

5241
03:21:18,781 --> 03:21:19,515
juggles work in the city but

5242
03:21:19,515 --> 03:21:20,215
resides in the back country and

5243
03:21:20,215 --> 03:21:23,850
I make a tremendous sacrifice

5244
03:21:23,850 --> 03:21:23,519
to stay engaged both virtually

5245
03:21:23,519 --> 03:21:25,519
and in person.

5246
03:21:28,390 --> 03:21:29,157
I think that there is some more

5247
03:21:29,157 --> 03:21:32,395
work that we could do I would

5248
03:21:32,395 --> 03:21:33,161
really love I love that debate

5249
03:21:33,161 --> 03:21:33,629
and both of those items were

5250
03:21:33,629 --> 03:21:35,629
being discussed.

5251
03:21:36,899 --> 03:21:37,766
There was the presentation by

5252
03:21:37,766 --> 03:21:38,300
given by I believe her name is

5253
03:21:38,300 --> 03:21:40,300
Victoria Brousseau.

5254
03:21:41,637 --> 03:21:42,271
She was represents the planning

5255
03:21:42,271 --> 03:21:42,938
groups and she was talking

5256
03:21:42,938 --> 03:21:43,673
about the seat at the table.

5257
03:21:43,673 --> 03:21:46,673
Now obviously this is something

5258
03:21:47,209 --> 03:21:47,943
that they've been talking about

5259
03:21:47,943 --> 03:21:48,844
for a long time and I don't

5260
03:21:48,844 --> 03:21:51,580
expect you all to want like

5261
03:21:51,580 --> 03:21:52,810
want to share or cede power

5262
03:21:52,810 --> 03:21:53,115
with these groups.

5263
03:21:53,115 --> 03:21:56,351
But I do think that it would be

5264
03:21:56,351 --> 03:21:57,520
awesome if we could help

5265
03:21:57,520 --> 03:21:59,452
facilitate something like what

5266
03:22:01,290 --> 03:22:04,890
is done at council meetings at

5267
03:22:05,828 --> 03:22:06,495
I'm sorry the County Board of

5268
03:22:06,495 --> 03:22:07,129
Supervisors meetings during

5269
03:22:07,129 --> 03:22:09,129
their planning commission

5270
03:22:10,199 --> 03:22:10,766
meetings where they enable

5271
03:22:10,766 --> 03:22:12,766
planning group members

5272
03:22:15,237 --> 03:22:16,380
specifically like chairs or

5273
03:22:16,380 --> 03:22:16,905
vice chairs to have a little

5274
03:22:16,905 --> 03:22:20,209
bit more time to speak because

5275
03:22:20,209 --> 03:22:20,943
they you know they respect and

5276
03:22:20,943 --> 03:22:21,577
acknowledge that we often serve

5277
03:22:21,577 --> 03:22:24,577
as liaisons to members of

5278
03:22:25,381 --> 03:22:26,150
the public that don't always

5279
03:22:26,150 --> 03:22:26,415
necessarily know about all

5280
03:22:26,415 --> 03:22:28,415
the issues.

5281
03:22:30,620 --> 03:22:31,487
And so they they come to us as

5282
03:22:31,487 --> 03:22:35,870
sort of people that can help

5283
03:22:35,257 --> 03:22:35,958
more readily and easily digest

5284
03:22:35,958 --> 03:22:36,458
some of the I guess we're more

5285
03:22:36,458 --> 03:22:38,458
accessible, right?

5286
03:22:39,829 --> 03:22:40,563
You all are super busy making

5287
03:22:40,563 --> 03:22:41,530
all the decisions on everything

5288
03:22:41,530 --> 03:22:45,300
So when we get to see it this

5289
03:22:45,300 --> 03:22:46,200
enables us to be able to

5290
03:22:46,200 --> 03:22:46,635
communicate it and we can have

5291
03:22:46,635 --> 03:22:46,936
a little bit more time to

5292
03:22:46,936 --> 03:22:48,936
speak.

5293
03:22:50,720 --> 03:22:52,742
It would be really beneficial

5294
03:22:52,742 --> 03:22:53,709
but your time included Francine

5295
03:22:53,709 --> 03:22:56,709
Maxwell If you can please

5296
03:22:58,800 --> 03:22:58,815
unmute Ranking Maxwell

5297
03:22:58,815 --> 03:23:01,215
Southeastern San Diego resident

5298
03:23:03,119 --> 03:23:05,519
I'm hoping that before

5299
03:23:07,156 --> 03:23:08,230
legislative break the same way

5300
03:23:08,230 --> 03:23:08,825
that this is the previous items

5301
03:23:08,825 --> 03:23:12,329
are going to come back early

5302
03:23:12,329 --> 03:23:13,290
that the council decides to

5303
03:23:13,290 --> 03:23:16,290
have something come back early

5304
03:23:16,966 --> 03:23:17,667
that would help build trust as

5305
03:23:17,667 --> 03:23:20,667
we're looking forward for you

5306
03:23:22,380 --> 03:23:22,705
to approve the settlement for

5307
03:23:22,705 --> 03:23:25,105
San Diego Police Department

5308
03:23:26,509 --> 03:23:27,210
Sergeant Art Scott where you

5309
03:23:27,210 --> 03:23:27,844
guys were at a committee

5310
03:23:27,844 --> 03:23:30,844
meeting and I spoke about

5311
03:23:31,800 --> 03:23:33,480
something being sealed and

5312
03:23:35,510 --> 03:23:35,718
you're going to award him $3.1

5313
03:23:35,718 --> 03:23:36,850
million which is absolutely

5314
03:23:36,850 --> 03:23:38,850
wonderful.

5315
03:23:39,722 --> 03:23:40,623
But we need to dig deeper.

5316
03:23:40,623 --> 03:23:44,360
We need to go to the root cause

5317
03:23:44,360 --> 03:23:45,610
of why the city of San Diego is

5318
03:23:45,610 --> 03:23:48,661
about to pay Art Scott San

5319
03:23:48,931 --> 03:23:49,499
Diego Police Department

5320
03:23:49,499 --> 03:23:51,499
Sergeant $3.1 million.

5321
03:23:53,569 --> 03:23:54,237
We need to make sure that

5322
03:23:54,237 --> 03:23:56,637
policies and procedures for

5323
03:23:58,808 --> 03:23:59,476
the four years that he has been

5324
03:23:59,476 --> 03:24:00,143
punished by death duty that

5325
03:24:00,143 --> 03:24:02,543
policies and procedures have

5326
03:24:03,779 --> 03:24:04,547
changed.

5327
03:24:04,547 --> 03:24:05,181
We need to have a hearing.

5328
03:24:05,181 --> 03:24:08,181
We need to be shared.

5329
03:24:08,952 --> 03:24:09,552
The cultural changes that have

5330
03:24:09,552 --> 03:24:12,552
been put into place by

5331
03:24:13,356 --> 03:24:14,570
the leadership of San Diego

5332
03:24:14,570 --> 03:24:14,824
Police Department and we need

5333
03:24:14,824 --> 03:24:17,824
to have a pre conversation

5334
03:24:18,795 --> 03:24:19,495
about the layoffs lawsuit

5335
03:24:19,495 --> 03:24:20,163
because you're going to settle

5336
03:24:20,163 --> 03:24:23,163
with that police officer as

5337
03:24:23,467 --> 03:24:24,434
well.

5338
03:24:24,434 --> 03:24:25,350
So let's get ahead of it and

5339
03:24:25,350 --> 03:24:27,350
let's have conversation

5340
03:24:28,237 --> 03:24:29,105
intentional conversation

5341
03:24:29,105 --> 03:24:32,705
because we do want to build

5342
03:24:33,543 --> 03:24:34,344
trust between the community and

5343
03:24:34,344 --> 03:24:35,211
the city council so that if you

5344
03:24:35,211 --> 03:24:38,811
decide to come up with another

5345
03:24:39,820 --> 03:24:39,749
tax and another fee we could

5346
03:24:39,749 --> 03:24:43,349
really discuss it and get to

5347
03:24:43,352 --> 03:24:44,200
the root cause of it of why

5348
03:24:44,200 --> 03:24:47,200
we're being asked Again, we

5349
03:24:47,557 --> 03:24:48,258
have a lot of things that we

5350
03:24:48,258 --> 03:24:49,192
could build and we could begin

5351
03:24:49,192 --> 03:24:52,529
to trust each other if we would

5352
03:24:52,529 --> 03:24:53,396
have the hard conversations.

5353
03:24:53,396 --> 03:24:56,396
So again utilize the idea

5354
03:24:58,100 --> 03:24:58,668
utilize race and equity while

5355
03:24:58,668 --> 03:25:01,680
we're on legislative break.

5356
03:25:01,638 --> 03:25:05,238
Thank you Terence Kelly If you

5357
03:25:06,243 --> 03:25:06,910
can please unmute.

5358
03:25:06,910 --> 03:25:07,344
>> Good afternoon San Diego

5359
03:25:07,344 --> 03:25:09,344
City Council.

5360
03:25:11,247 --> 03:25:12,150
My name is Terry Ann Skelly.

5361
03:25:12,150 --> 03:25:12,716
I'm a planning group member, a

5362
03:25:12,716 --> 03:25:15,716
parent and a public health

5363
03:25:15,752 --> 03:25:16,453
educator adding my support for

5364
03:25:16,453 --> 03:25:19,453
the work of street maintenance

5365
03:25:20,423 --> 03:25:21,163
and infrastructure considered

5366
03:25:21,163 --> 03:25:21,525
in the agenda item earlier this

5367
03:25:21,525 --> 03:25:22,920
afternoon.

5368
03:25:22,920 --> 03:25:22,659
I'd like to include in

5369
03:25:22,659 --> 03:25:24,659
the conversation that

5370
03:25:26,290 --> 03:25:26,697
the conditions of many of our

5371
03:25:26,697 --> 03:25:30,297
roads in the city have more

5372
03:25:30,567 --> 03:25:31,168
rural lands adjoining them

5373
03:25:31,168 --> 03:25:33,168
especially need upkeep.

5374
03:25:35,380 --> 03:25:35,672
Also since the number of drunk

5375
03:25:35,672 --> 03:25:36,273
and drug impaired traffic

5376
03:25:36,273 --> 03:25:38,273
crashes increases during

5377
03:25:40,110 --> 03:25:40,877
the summertime I have been very

5378
03:25:40,877 --> 03:25:41,579
pleased to see these signs in

5379
03:25:41,579 --> 03:25:44,579
my neighborhoods such as Don't

5380
03:25:45,649 --> 03:25:49,849
be there I in dui, drive high,

5381
03:25:50,187 --> 03:25:50,820
get a dui and especially buzzed

5382
03:25:50,820 --> 03:25:53,220
driving is drunk driving.

5383
03:25:55,250 --> 03:25:55,726
>> These are all near my house.

5384
03:25:55,726 --> 03:25:58,726
San Diego Police Department is

5385
03:25:58,995 --> 03:25:59,596
constantly reminding citizens

5386
03:25:59,596 --> 03:26:00,229
that driving under

5387
03:26:00,229 --> 03:26:02,629
the influence doesn't just

5388
03:26:04,367 --> 03:26:05,680
refer to alcohol prescription

5389
03:26:05,680 --> 03:26:05,735
medications, over-the-counter

5390
03:26:05,735 --> 03:26:08,735
drugs and marijuana can also

5391
03:26:09,639 --> 03:26:10,307
impair especially in

5392
03:26:10,307 --> 03:26:10,707
combination with alcohol and

5393
03:26:10,707 --> 03:26:12,707
other drugs.

5394
03:26:14,477 --> 03:26:15,145
Recently the National Safety

5395
03:26:15,145 --> 03:26:15,879
Council fact sheet repeated

5396
03:26:15,879 --> 03:26:18,882
that and I quote It is unsafe

5397
03:26:18,882 --> 03:26:19,250
to be under the influence of

5398
03:26:19,250 --> 03:26:19,950
cannabis.

5399
03:26:19,950 --> 03:26:20,584
Intoxicating cannabis products

5400
03:26:20,584 --> 03:26:24,184
can have a major impact on

5401
03:26:24,287 --> 03:26:24,954
safety on our roadways because

5402
03:26:24,954 --> 03:26:27,354
marijuana use slows reaction

5403
03:26:29,920 --> 03:26:32,920
time impacts short term memory

5404
03:26:33,330 --> 03:26:34,640
and impairs skills essential to

5405
03:26:34,640 --> 03:26:34,764
driving And quote These driving

5406
03:26:34,764 --> 03:26:37,764
skills include the ability to

5407
03:26:38,802 --> 03:26:39,536
judge traffic lane positions

5408
03:26:39,536 --> 03:26:42,536
and subsequent lane weaving For

5409
03:26:43,340 --> 03:26:44,141
all of these reasons my

5410
03:26:44,141 --> 03:26:44,908
neighbors and me do not want an

5411
03:26:44,908 --> 03:26:47,908
increase in access in marijuana

5412
03:26:48,779 --> 03:26:49,546
sales here in San Diego.

5413
03:26:49,546 --> 03:26:50,146
>> Thank you for hearing my

5414
03:26:50,146 --> 03:26:50,513
concerns this afternoon.

5415
03:26:50,513 --> 03:26:52,513
Thank you.

5416
03:26:54,485 --> 03:26:55,185
Katherine Douglas if you can

5417
03:26:55,185 --> 03:26:55,853
please unmute The five minute

5418
03:26:55,853 --> 03:26:58,622
timer also concluded here in

5419
03:26:58,622 --> 03:26:59,189
council chambers are 14

5420
03:26:59,189 --> 03:26:59,890
speakers in the queue.

5421
03:26:59,890 --> 03:27:02,890
No additional speakers will be

5422
03:27:03,393 --> 03:27:03,994
taken.

5423
03:27:03,994 --> 03:27:04,461
>> Please proceed.

5424
03:27:04,461 --> 03:27:05,195
Good afternoon.

5425
03:27:05,195 --> 03:27:08,195
I just like to say

5426
03:27:08,331 --> 03:27:08,865
congratulations to those who

5427
03:27:08,865 --> 03:27:11,265
were seated today on

5428
03:27:12,502 --> 03:27:12,869
the Commission on Police

5429
03:27:12,869 --> 03:27:13,503
Practices.

5430
03:27:13,503 --> 03:27:16,503
I wish them good luck.

5431
03:27:17,174 --> 03:27:20,174
I hope they are effective.

5432
03:27:21,512 --> 03:27:22,212
I would also like to ask that

5433
03:27:22,212 --> 03:27:25,212
one joining the Commission on

5434
03:27:26,350 --> 03:27:27,840
Police Practices as well as

5435
03:27:27,840 --> 03:27:30,840
those who are currently sitting

5436
03:27:30,654 --> 03:27:34,158
on the board that they attend

5437
03:27:34,158 --> 03:27:34,925
inside sd pd which is put on

5438
03:27:34,925 --> 03:27:35,629
three times a year by the San

5439
03:27:35,629 --> 03:27:38,290
Diego Police Foundation I

5440
03:27:40,231 --> 03:27:40,964
believe I'm not sure that

5441
03:27:40,964 --> 03:27:44,564
the date has been announced but

5442
03:27:45,680 --> 03:27:46,236
I believe that the next inside

5443
03:27:46,236 --> 03:27:48,772
sd pd will be in the month of

5444
03:27:48,772 --> 03:27:51,772
NOVEMBER probably the first one

5445
03:27:52,476 --> 03:27:53,177
of the first two Saturdays.

5446
03:27:53,177 --> 03:27:56,177
That information can be found

5447
03:27:57,140 --> 03:27:57,681
on the San Diego Police

5448
03:27:57,681 --> 03:27:58,582
Foundation website and they

5449
03:27:58,582 --> 03:28:01,819
will post it as soon as they

5450
03:28:01,819 --> 03:28:02,286
have confirmed those one of

5451
03:28:02,286 --> 03:28:02,787
those two dates.

5452
03:28:02,787 --> 03:28:04,787
It's enlightening.

5453
03:28:06,423 --> 03:28:09,423
It's fun, it's educational and

5454
03:28:11,280 --> 03:28:11,762
it's important that people who

5455
03:28:11,762 --> 03:28:14,762
are making decisions related to

5456
03:28:15,399 --> 03:28:17,799
the police department attend

5457
03:28:20,304 --> 03:28:20,937
this function and the San Diego

5458
03:28:20,937 --> 03:28:21,572
Police Foundation would be

5459
03:28:21,572 --> 03:28:24,572
happy to waive the normal

5460
03:28:26,100 --> 03:28:26,677
surcharge for going.

5461
03:28:26,677 --> 03:28:30,277
The other thing I'd like to

5462
03:28:30,281 --> 03:28:30,681
speak on is the restrooms at

5463
03:28:30,681 --> 03:28:31,382
the beaches.

5464
03:28:31,382 --> 03:28:34,982
I have the privilege if I'm

5465
03:28:35,419 --> 03:28:36,120
down there to whip homes but

5466
03:28:36,120 --> 03:28:39,720
most people don't and I'm very

5467
03:28:39,824 --> 03:28:40,524
afraid of another bay or

5468
03:28:40,524 --> 03:28:42,924
whatever that disastrous thing

5469
03:28:45,290 --> 03:28:45,329
was that cost the city tons of

5470
03:28:45,329 --> 03:28:46,970
money.

5471
03:28:46,970 --> 03:28:50,297
I think we need to find money

5472
03:28:50,367 --> 03:28:50,768
to keep those restrooms open.

5473
03:28:50,768 --> 03:28:51,135
Thank you.

5474
03:28:51,135 --> 03:28:51,735
Thank you.

5475
03:28:51,735 --> 03:28:54,135
Next is Barbara Gordon.

5476
03:28:54,538 --> 03:28:57,538
If you can please unmute.

5477
03:28:59,710 --> 03:29:00,411
Thank you.

5478
03:29:00,411 --> 03:29:01,178
Of driving around San Diego

5479
03:29:01,178 --> 03:29:04,178
it's hard to MISS Cannabis

5480
03:29:04,816 --> 03:29:05,416
Advertisement or billboards

5481
03:29:05,416 --> 03:29:07,816
promoting cannabis as a

5482
03:29:09,720 --> 03:29:10,870
treatment for virtually every

5483
03:29:10,870 --> 03:29:10,821
condition.

5484
03:29:10,821 --> 03:29:14,421
We all want to reduce suffering

5485
03:29:14,825 --> 03:29:15,561
but medicalised and

5486
03:29:15,561 --> 03:29:17,961
commercializing of high potency

5487
03:29:19,230 --> 03:29:19,931
and toxin has produced rising

5488
03:29:19,931 --> 03:29:21,931
addiction poisoning premature

5489
03:29:24,680 --> 03:29:24,669
cardiovascular disease,

5490
03:29:24,669 --> 03:29:25,236
emergency rooms, traffic

5491
03:29:25,236 --> 03:29:27,236
fatalities and serious

5492
03:29:29,540 --> 03:29:30,800
psychiatric harms especially

5493
03:29:30,800 --> 03:29:32,800
among our youth.

5494
03:29:33,378 --> 03:29:34,112
Modern medicine has better

5495
03:29:34,112 --> 03:29:34,645
tools to release suffering and

5496
03:29:34,645 --> 03:29:37,450
we should use them.

5497
03:29:38,982 --> 03:29:39,583
DR. Bertha Madras.

5498
03:29:39,583 --> 03:29:41,983
She's a Harvard medical

5499
03:29:43,654 --> 03:29:44,421
professor of psychobiology

5500
03:29:44,421 --> 03:29:44,989
speaks to the rising rate of

5501
03:29:44,989 --> 03:29:46,989
cannabis use disorder.

5502
03:29:48,493 --> 03:29:49,193
It's claiming potency and

5503
03:29:49,193 --> 03:29:51,593
the research linking marijuana

5504
03:29:53,330 --> 03:29:55,730
to psychosis and schizophrenia

5505
03:29:57,902 --> 03:29:58,603
which most psychiatry must

5506
03:29:58,603 --> 03:30:01,603
agree as a contributing cause.

5507
03:30:02,574 --> 03:30:03,174
And the L.A. Times editorial

5508
03:30:03,174 --> 03:30:03,808
confirms the reality of

5509
03:30:03,808 --> 03:30:06,808
cannabis use which is long

5510
03:30:08,179 --> 03:30:08,780
predicted by experts

5511
03:30:08,780 --> 03:30:11,180
the increased potency in

5512
03:30:13,170 --> 03:30:13,718
particular daily and nearly

5513
03:30:13,718 --> 03:30:16,118
daily consumption Addiction is

5514
03:30:17,522 --> 03:30:18,188
real and it affects 1 in 10

5515
03:30:18,188 --> 03:30:18,590
users and it's higher among

5516
03:30:18,590 --> 03:30:20,590
heavy users.

5517
03:30:22,160 --> 03:30:22,860
What's the serious medical help

5518
03:30:22,860 --> 03:30:25,260
existing again with psychosis

5519
03:30:27,198 --> 03:30:27,966
and psychiatric emergencies?

5520
03:30:27,966 --> 03:30:30,366
The profit driven marijuana

5521
03:30:32,303 --> 03:30:33,104
industry big weed mirrors

5522
03:30:33,104 --> 03:30:36,704
the tactics of big tobacco and

5523
03:30:37,141 --> 03:30:37,909
big alcohol.

5524
03:30:37,909 --> 03:30:41,509
I urge the city to take

5525
03:30:41,979 --> 03:30:42,514
stronger actions limiting

5526
03:30:42,514 --> 03:30:43,181
marijuana businesses

5527
03:30:43,181 --> 03:30:45,181
advertisement and marketing.

5528
03:30:47,418 --> 03:30:47,785
Thank you very much for letting

5529
03:30:47,785 --> 03:30:48,152
me speak.

5530
03:30:48,152 --> 03:30:49,454
Thank you.

5531
03:30:49,454 --> 03:30:52,454
It's 8700 if you can please.

5532
03:30:57,695 --> 03:30:58,563
>> And you start six Joy

5533
03:30:58,563 --> 03:31:01,563
Sinatra I'll be speaking on

5534
03:31:02,734 --> 03:31:03,434
the structure of budget deficit

5535
03:31:03,434 --> 03:31:06,434
in the Statement of Budgetary

5536
03:31:07,405 --> 03:31:09,805
Principles which were approved

5537
03:31:13,912 --> 03:31:16,281
at the last b n g e g, b, g and

5538
03:31:16,281 --> 03:31:17,281
e meeting and the Council will

5539
03:31:17,281 --> 03:31:20,881
look at the principles in late

5540
03:31:21,987 --> 03:31:26,187
AUGUST So one word I want to

5541
03:31:26,791 --> 03:31:27,592
point on the principle and

5542
03:31:27,592 --> 03:31:28,360
we're going to we're going to

5543
03:31:28,360 --> 03:31:31,496
go in a different direction but

5544
03:31:31,496 --> 03:31:35,696
same topic The word any I spoke

5545
03:31:36,668 --> 03:31:37,402
very strongly on this last year

5546
03:31:37,402 --> 03:31:38,200
and what you're really keeping

5547
03:31:38,200 --> 03:31:38,569
my fingers crossed that

5548
03:31:38,569 --> 03:31:41,372
the word any would be

5549
03:31:41,372 --> 03:31:42,730
eliminated from the structural

5550
03:31:42,730 --> 03:31:45,730
budget from the statement of

5551
03:31:46,211 --> 03:31:49,211
budgetary principles and so far

5552
03:31:50,949 --> 03:31:51,716
it hasn't been So I researched

5553
03:31:51,716 --> 03:31:55,316
the word any again and this

5554
03:31:55,887 --> 03:31:58,287
these principles are pointing

5555
03:31:59,758 --> 03:32:03,958
at one period f y 27 when it's

5556
03:32:04,930 --> 03:32:08,530
one singular item and it's not

5557
03:32:09,367 --> 03:32:12,967
apply in my understanding So it

5558
03:32:14,305 --> 03:32:14,973
must reconsider getting rid of

5559
03:32:14,973 --> 03:32:18,573
that word any We have a

5560
03:32:18,843 --> 03:32:19,544
structural budget deficit And

5561
03:32:19,544 --> 03:32:23,114
so here's what I'm going to

5562
03:32:23,114 --> 03:32:23,448
switch gears just a little bit

5563
03:32:23,448 --> 03:32:24,282
.

5564
03:32:24,282 --> 03:32:28,287
What we just did on that last

5565
03:32:28,287 --> 03:32:29,254
item was fabulous because he

5566
03:32:29,254 --> 03:32:33,325
got me to shine a light on what

5567
03:32:33,325 --> 03:32:33,991
we're missing on the structural

5568
03:32:33,991 --> 03:32:36,391
budget deficit We're missing

5569
03:32:38,630 --> 03:32:39,300
how to change it, how to

5570
03:32:39,300 --> 03:32:39,631
improve it.

5571
03:32:39,631 --> 03:32:40,432
Do you see we have

5572
03:32:40,432 --> 03:32:43,432
the legislative branch and we

5573
03:32:43,835 --> 03:32:44,403
have the executive branch.

5574
03:32:44,403 --> 03:32:45,370
You know we have

5575
03:32:45,370 --> 03:32:48,370
the operational end of it.

5576
03:32:48,140 --> 03:32:49,107
It's apples and oranges And did

5577
03:32:49,107 --> 03:32:52,710
you see how difficult it is to

5578
03:32:52,710 --> 03:32:53,479
understand the resources they

5579
03:32:53,479 --> 03:32:57,790
have, the processes they go to

5580
03:32:58,283 --> 03:32:59,510
transfer dictation.

5581
03:32:59,510 --> 03:32:59,751
What you did was beautiful and

5582
03:32:59,751 --> 03:33:02,688
what the council did was

5583
03:33:02,688 --> 03:33:03,455
beautiful.

5584
03:33:03,455 --> 03:33:04,155
It has absolutely Your time has

5585
03:33:04,155 --> 03:33:06,555
concluded Hector Ocampos And

5586
03:33:07,359 --> 03:33:09,759
you Thanks Hector here.

5587
03:33:12,431 --> 03:33:12,797
>> And that was very political,

5588
03:33:12,797 --> 03:33:13,599
you guys.

5589
03:33:13,599 --> 03:33:16,935
Man When most of you guys were

5590
03:33:16,935 --> 03:33:17,702
dumbfounded when the city guys

5591
03:33:17,702 --> 03:33:18,169
were saying Well I don't know

5592
03:33:18,169 --> 03:33:20,169
how it happened.

5593
03:33:21,707 --> 03:33:22,730
He did it does very political

5594
03:33:22,730 --> 03:33:22,774
you guys.

5595
03:33:22,774 --> 03:33:25,774
There's so many companies that

5596
03:33:27,120 --> 03:33:30,883
can do that job but any more

5597
03:33:30,883 --> 03:33:31,750
software programs it's Hey I

5598
03:33:31,750 --> 03:33:32,451
now man you can take get all

5599
03:33:32,451 --> 03:33:34,851
the information you've already

5600
03:33:35,688 --> 03:33:36,388
paid for from that company.

5601
03:33:36,388 --> 03:33:37,210
You own the rights to the data

5602
03:33:37,210 --> 03:33:39,421
that haven't upgraded to

5603
03:33:40,725 --> 03:33:41,660
the day It's over.

5604
03:33:41,660 --> 03:33:45,463
Get the data and go to an A.I.

5605
03:33:45,463 --> 03:33:46,131
Guy who could do it on I like

5606
03:33:46,131 --> 03:33:49,131
in 20 minutes It's not that

5607
03:33:51,136 --> 03:33:52,360
much to switch the data now.

5608
03:33:52,360 --> 03:33:52,805
Now we can go to Elon Musk and

5609
03:33:52,805 --> 03:33:55,474
ask him Hey Eli, can you give

5610
03:33:55,474 --> 03:34:00,790
us a road map to all his cars

5611
03:34:00,790 --> 03:34:00,979
Road map all this everywhere

5612
03:34:00,979 --> 03:34:01,680
thousands of times a day in San

5613
03:34:01,680 --> 03:34:04,683
Diego And he might just tweet

5614
03:34:04,683 --> 03:34:05,151
bag and he might give us

5615
03:34:05,151 --> 03:34:05,884
the information.

5616
03:34:05,884 --> 03:34:09,484
He does it every day Potholes,

5617
03:34:09,655 --> 03:34:10,322
everything for his cars So he

5618
03:34:10,322 --> 03:34:10,655
might give it to us for

5619
03:34:10,655 --> 03:34:12,655
nothing.

5620
03:34:14,859 --> 03:34:15,528
We could just ask him or you

5621
03:34:15,528 --> 03:34:16,261
guys might know someone who

5622
03:34:16,261 --> 03:34:19,631
knows or know someone who knows

5623
03:34:19,631 --> 03:34:20,432
them and we could just ask and

5624
03:34:20,432 --> 03:34:20,866
we need help, you know we can't

5625
03:34:20,866 --> 03:34:22,866
figure it out.

5626
03:34:23,569 --> 03:34:24,269
We're given these no bid

5627
03:34:24,269 --> 03:34:27,869
contracts out just on a whim

5628
03:34:29,641 --> 03:34:30,309
and we're just supposed to take

5629
03:34:30,309 --> 03:34:33,245
it And then the ibt guys

5630
03:34:33,245 --> 03:34:33,846
the down sky they've got to

5631
03:34:33,846 --> 03:34:34,713
work 20 hours a week.

5632
03:34:34,713 --> 03:34:37,713
We could have them clean

5633
03:34:38,384 --> 03:34:38,984
the bathroom, clean

5634
03:34:38,984 --> 03:34:41,384
the bathrooms and clean

5635
03:34:43,790 --> 03:34:44,290
the trash at the beaches, pick

5636
03:34:44,290 --> 03:34:44,957
up all the trash.

5637
03:34:44,957 --> 03:34:47,957
No more big trash trucks

5638
03:34:48,560 --> 03:34:49,261
driving around the army, You

5639
03:34:49,261 --> 03:34:50,129
guys we could have a thousand

5640
03:34:50,129 --> 03:34:52,965
guys a day down there doing

5641
03:34:52,965 --> 03:34:53,399
their four hours a week or 20

5642
03:34:53,399 --> 03:34:55,399
hours a week.

5643
03:34:57,503 --> 03:34:58,403
So that would be a lot of a lot

5644
03:34:58,403 --> 03:35:02,541
of money And it would it's a

5645
03:35:02,541 --> 03:35:03,309
nice job but it's pretty easy.

5646
03:35:03,309 --> 03:35:07,480
It's out in the open And then

5647
03:35:07,480 --> 03:35:08,180
plus when you got to go and

5648
03:35:08,180 --> 03:35:09,215
you're older like me, you got

5649
03:35:09,215 --> 03:35:12,985
to go There's no you got to go

5650
03:35:12,985 --> 03:35:13,886
now Max if your time has

5651
03:35:13,886 --> 03:35:16,886
concluded Dunning If you can

5652
03:35:19,258 --> 03:35:19,791
please unmute.

5653
03:35:19,791 --> 03:35:20,426
Good afternoon.

5654
03:35:20,426 --> 03:35:23,426
My name is Chuck Dunning.

5655
03:35:24,197 --> 03:35:24,897
I am a member of the Mission

5656
03:35:24,897 --> 03:35:25,531
Bay Park Committee but today

5657
03:35:25,531 --> 03:35:26,232
I'm speaking as a private

5658
03:35:26,232 --> 03:35:28,901
citizen and everything I have

5659
03:35:28,901 --> 03:35:29,502
to say is not reflective of any

5660
03:35:29,502 --> 03:35:31,902
actions or opinions of

5661
03:35:33,472 --> 03:35:34,400
the committee but I am

5662
03:35:34,400 --> 03:35:36,400
extremely concerned of

5663
03:35:38,678 --> 03:35:39,278
the effects going forward With

5664
03:35:39,278 --> 03:35:39,979
half of the restrooms in

5665
03:35:39,979 --> 03:35:42,979
Mission Bay Park being closed

5666
03:35:43,949 --> 03:35:44,684
and I think that at this point

5667
03:35:44,684 --> 03:35:47,684
it's it's relatively recent and

5668
03:35:49,521 --> 03:35:50,189
you're only beginning to hear

5669
03:35:50,189 --> 03:35:50,656
the blowback that's going to

5670
03:35:50,656 --> 03:35:52,656
come from this.

5671
03:35:54,930 --> 03:35:54,727
The county samples mission, Bay

5672
03:35:54,727 --> 03:35:57,727
Park and the other county

5673
03:35:57,797 --> 03:35:58,498
beaches every week and the last

5674
03:35:58,498 --> 03:35:59,198
week three beaches in Mission

5675
03:35:59,198 --> 03:36:02,798
Bay Park were yellow flag for

5676
03:36:02,968 --> 03:36:03,336
unhealthy levels of human waste

5677
03:36:03,336 --> 03:36:04,700
bacteria.

5678
03:36:04,700 --> 03:36:07,670
Can you stop and imagine what's

5679
03:36:08,700 --> 03:36:08,675
going to happen when half of

5680
03:36:08,675 --> 03:36:09,342
these restrooms are closed?

5681
03:36:09,342 --> 03:36:09,709
And I think I've heard other

5682
03:36:09,709 --> 03:36:11,709
solutions.

5683
03:36:12,678 --> 03:36:13,345
This is not just a complaint

5684
03:36:13,345 --> 03:36:14,460
but there is a solution out

5685
03:36:14,460 --> 03:36:17,550
there Also you all know about

5686
03:36:17,550 --> 03:36:18,417
the Golf Enterprise Fund.

5687
03:36:18,417 --> 03:36:18,684
It sits with $5.5 million right

5688
03:36:18,684 --> 03:36:19,318
now.

5689
03:36:19,318 --> 03:36:21,718
It was established when

5690
03:36:22,221 --> 03:36:22,955
the golf courses were not

5691
03:36:22,955 --> 03:36:23,589
making money to make sure there

5692
03:36:23,589 --> 03:36:25,989
was money for maintenance.

5693
03:36:26,359 --> 03:36:27,600
Well now all three courses are

5694
03:36:27,600 --> 03:36:27,660
making good money and they can

5695
03:36:27,660 --> 03:36:28,610
certainly fund their own

5696
03:36:28,610 --> 03:36:30,610
maintenance.

5697
03:36:30,964 --> 03:36:31,697
Matter of fact, Mission Bay

5698
03:36:31,697 --> 03:36:32,432
Golf Course just opened a brand

5699
03:36:32,432 --> 03:36:35,432
new restaurant so I don't

5700
03:36:36,302 --> 03:36:36,969
understand why the Park and Rec

5701
03:36:36,969 --> 03:36:37,570
department which covers both

5702
03:36:37,570 --> 03:36:40,570
the Mission Bay Park and

5703
03:36:41,174 --> 03:36:44,174
the golf courses cannot tap

5704
03:36:44,310 --> 03:36:47,310
the Golf Enterprise Fund for

5705
03:36:48,848 --> 03:36:49,582
546,000 of that 5.5 million for

5706
03:36:49,582 --> 03:36:50,830
a short term loan to get these

5707
03:36:50,830 --> 03:36:52,830
bathrooms cleaned.

5708
03:36:53,285 --> 03:36:54,870
I think you all ought to also

5709
03:36:54,870 --> 03:36:54,787
ask the park and rec department

5710
03:36:54,787 --> 03:36:55,488
at the end of the summer just

5711
03:36:55,488 --> 03:36:59,250
how much money was saved When

5712
03:36:59,250 --> 03:36:59,693
you look at the extra any extra

5713
03:36:59,693 --> 03:37:02,930
maintenance that's going to

5714
03:37:02,195 --> 03:37:02,829
occur with 13 bathrooms being

5715
03:37:02,829 --> 03:37:03,463
open and used by the same

5716
03:37:03,463 --> 03:37:05,863
amount of hundred thousand

5717
03:37:07,901 --> 03:37:08,601
people a day, you know Mission

5718
03:37:08,601 --> 03:37:11,905
Bay Park is the front door to

5719
03:37:11,905 --> 03:37:12,538
this city and we've just now

5720
03:37:12,538 --> 03:37:13,600
locked 13 of those doors.

5721
03:37:13,600 --> 03:37:15,600
>> Thank you.

5722
03:37:16,843 --> 03:37:17,610
Thank you.

5723
03:37:17,610 --> 03:37:20,610
Cynthia, if you can please

5724
03:37:21,481 --> 03:37:22,215
unmute Cynthia Knapp.

5725
03:37:22,215 --> 03:37:24,615
Good afternoon Council members.

5726
03:37:26,953 --> 03:37:27,721
My name is Cynthia Knapp.

5727
03:37:27,721 --> 03:37:28,421
I would say San Diego is

5728
03:37:28,421 --> 03:37:31,157
Alcohol Tobacco and other drug

5729
03:37:31,157 --> 03:37:31,958
prevention program.

5730
03:37:31,958 --> 03:37:32,659
I'm here today with the Policy

5731
03:37:32,659 --> 03:37:33,126
Research Center for Tobacco in

5732
03:37:33,126 --> 03:37:35,126
the Environment.

5733
03:37:36,396 --> 03:37:37,970
It's a collaboration between

5734
03:37:37,970 --> 03:37:37,597
say San Diego and San Diego

5735
03:37:37,597 --> 03:37:38,465
State University.

5736
03:37:38,465 --> 03:37:41,501
I would like to comment on a

5737
03:37:41,501 --> 03:37:41,835
smoke free outdoor dining

5738
03:37:41,835 --> 03:37:42,402
policy.

5739
03:37:42,402 --> 03:37:44,802
San Diego proudly and

5740
03:37:46,720 --> 03:37:46,773
rightfully promotes itself as a

5741
03:37:46,773 --> 03:37:47,440
healthy outdoor oriented city.

5742
03:37:47,440 --> 03:37:51,110
This is a city where people

5743
03:37:51,110 --> 03:37:51,645
enjoy active lifestyle and

5744
03:37:51,645 --> 03:37:52,345
vibrant public spaces year

5745
03:37:52,345 --> 03:37:55,945
round outdoor dining is a big

5746
03:37:55,982 --> 03:37:56,616
part of that identity.

5747
03:37:56,616 --> 03:37:57,317
Families and residents and

5748
03:37:57,317 --> 03:37:57,884
visitors gather on restaurant

5749
03:37:57,884 --> 03:38:00,284
patios across our city

5750
03:38:01,154 --> 03:38:01,855
expecting a clean and welcoming

5751
03:38:01,855 --> 03:38:02,489
environment When speaking with

5752
03:38:02,489 --> 03:38:04,889
community members they are

5753
03:38:05,926 --> 03:38:06,526
often surprised to learn that

5754
03:38:06,526 --> 03:38:07,194
there are no policies in

5755
03:38:07,194 --> 03:38:10,794
the city of San Diego making

5756
03:38:11,164 --> 03:38:11,865
all outdoor dining smoke free.

5757
03:38:11,865 --> 03:38:12,566
And this goes beyond

5758
03:38:12,566 --> 03:38:13,266
the well-documented dangers of

5759
03:38:13,266 --> 03:38:15,666
secondhand smoke when patrons

5760
03:38:16,169 --> 03:38:16,870
smoke or vape they leave behind

5761
03:38:16,870 --> 03:38:17,571
toxic residue that can linger

5762
03:38:17,571 --> 03:38:20,571
on tables and other surfaces.

5763
03:38:20,640 --> 03:38:23,640
This residue contains more than

5764
03:38:24,430 --> 03:38:24,645
25 chemicals listed under

5765
03:38:24,645 --> 03:38:25,278
California's Prop 65 as

5766
03:38:25,278 --> 03:38:25,946
hazardous to human health

5767
03:38:25,946 --> 03:38:28,346
including nicotine and other

5768
03:38:29,516 --> 03:38:30,150
cancer causing chemicals.

5769
03:38:30,150 --> 03:38:30,884
Even after smoking stops,

5770
03:38:30,884 --> 03:38:34,287
patrons can pick up and absorb

5771
03:38:34,287 --> 03:38:34,921
this residue simply by touching

5772
03:38:34,921 --> 03:38:35,555
the tables and surfaces in

5773
03:38:35,555 --> 03:38:37,955
the outdoor dining areas.

5774
03:38:39,426 --> 03:38:40,126
If you've ever taken a baby or

5775
03:38:40,126 --> 03:38:40,827
a toddler to a restaurant, you

5776
03:38:40,827 --> 03:38:41,461
know that everything on those

5777
03:38:41,461 --> 03:38:44,970
tables is primed for going

5778
03:38:44,970 --> 03:38:44,798
right into their mouths When

5779
03:38:44,798 --> 03:38:45,532
the table is layered in toxic

5780
03:38:45,532 --> 03:38:48,532
residue on this innocent reflex

5781
03:38:48,568 --> 03:38:48,902
becomes a serious health

5782
03:38:48,902 --> 03:38:49,602
hazard.

5783
03:38:49,602 --> 03:38:51,602
Neighboring jurisdictions with

5784
03:38:53,540 --> 03:38:54,207
this policy in place include in

5785
03:38:54,207 --> 03:38:54,942
alphabetical order Carlsbad,

5786
03:38:54,942 --> 03:38:57,942
Chula Vista, Coronado, Del Mar,

5787
03:38:58,445 --> 03:38:59,112
Encinitas, Imperial Beach, La

5788
03:38:59,112 --> 03:38:59,780
mesa, National City, Solana

5789
03:38:59,780 --> 03:39:02,180
Beach and the unincorporated

5790
03:39:03,160 --> 03:39:03,717
area.

5791
03:39:03,717 --> 03:39:04,351
Adopting a comprehensive smoke

5792
03:39:04,351 --> 03:39:05,180
free outdoor dining policy

5793
03:39:05,180 --> 03:39:07,418
would reinforce San Diego's

5794
03:39:08,588 --> 03:39:09,289
identity as a city that values

5795
03:39:09,289 --> 03:39:10,156
health and safe public spaces.

5796
03:39:10,156 --> 03:39:13,292
It would also seem to clear and

5797
03:39:13,292 --> 03:39:13,927
consistent message that places

5798
03:39:13,927 --> 03:39:14,594
where people gather to eat

5799
03:39:14,594 --> 03:39:17,594
should be free from unwanted

5800
03:39:17,797 --> 03:39:18,432
secondhand smoke and

5801
03:39:18,432 --> 03:39:19,166
the corresponding residue.

5802
03:39:19,166 --> 03:39:19,833
Thank you for your time and for

5803
03:39:19,833 --> 03:39:20,234
the attention being given to

5804
03:39:20,234 --> 03:39:22,234
this issue.

5805
03:39:22,803 --> 03:39:23,604
We appreciate the opportunity

5806
03:39:23,604 --> 03:39:24,271
to share our working to be a

5807
03:39:24,271 --> 03:39:25,720
resource for the community.

5808
03:39:25,720 --> 03:39:28,672
Thank you Ocean If you can

5809
03:39:30,244 --> 03:39:30,978
please unmute.

5810
03:39:30,978 --> 03:39:31,611
Good afternoon Council members.

5811
03:39:31,611 --> 03:39:34,611
My name is Eric Fletcher.

5812
03:39:34,882 --> 03:39:35,582
I'm a San Diego resident open

5813
03:39:35,582 --> 03:39:36,383
water swimmer conservationist.

5814
03:39:36,383 --> 03:39:39,983
I'm here to voice my strong

5815
03:39:40,254 --> 03:39:40,921
opposition to the pending

5816
03:39:40,921 --> 03:39:41,521
permit for the La Hoya Plus

5817
03:39:41,521 --> 03:39:43,521
odor abatement program.

5818
03:39:44,992 --> 03:39:45,692
Provide evidence of a multiyear

5819
03:39:45,692 --> 03:39:46,293
unpermitted spraying program.

5820
03:39:46,293 --> 03:39:46,860
And request an immediate

5821
03:39:46,860 --> 03:39:48,860
immediate city auditor

5822
03:39:49,529 --> 03:39:50,970
investigation into

5823
03:39:50,970 --> 03:39:50,731
the permitting gap and

5824
03:39:50,731 --> 03:39:51,165
potential misallocation of

5825
03:39:51,165 --> 03:39:53,165
public funds.

5826
03:39:54,234 --> 03:39:54,901
On MAY 1st, 2017 the city

5827
03:39:54,901 --> 03:39:55,569
published its Marine Coastal

5828
03:39:55,569 --> 03:39:58,569
Management Plan for La Hoya

5829
03:39:59,600 --> 03:39:59,540
pledging to comply with state

5830
03:39:59,540 --> 03:39:59,940
and federal coastal

5831
03:39:59,940 --> 03:40:00,640
regulations.

5832
03:40:00,640 --> 03:40:02,977
Yet city internal logs reveal

5833
03:40:02,977 --> 03:40:04,977
they executed 120 spray

5834
03:40:06,847 --> 03:40:07,481
applications between 2017 and

5835
03:40:07,481 --> 03:40:08,182
2023 with the first spring

5836
03:40:08,182 --> 03:40:08,749
occurring with just three days

5837
03:40:08,749 --> 03:40:10,749
after the publication.

5838
03:40:11,180 --> 03:40:11,652
Further 112 of those runs

5839
03:40:11,652 --> 03:40:12,286
occurred during federally

5840
03:40:12,286 --> 03:40:14,686
protected bird nesting and

5841
03:40:15,789 --> 03:40:16,189
marine mammal popping windows.

5842
03:40:16,189 --> 03:40:16,891
Via email.

5843
03:40:16,891 --> 03:40:17,558
City administration confirmed

5844
03:40:17,558 --> 03:40:20,594
that they failed to obtain a

5845
03:40:20,594 --> 03:40:21,228
coastal development permit a

5846
03:40:21,228 --> 03:40:21,895
waste to charge waiver or

5847
03:40:21,895 --> 03:40:24,295
letter of authorization from

5848
03:40:24,999 --> 03:40:25,733
noa Fisheries for any of these

5849
03:40:25,733 --> 03:40:26,233
phrase bypassing public comment

5850
03:40:26,233 --> 03:40:26,866
and transparency.

5851
03:40:26,866 --> 03:40:29,470
This project is framed as

5852
03:40:29,470 --> 03:40:30,171
environmentally friendly but

5853
03:40:30,171 --> 03:40:30,838
the surfactant use presents a

5854
03:40:30,838 --> 03:40:31,338
severe threat to marine life

5855
03:40:31,338 --> 03:40:33,338
and human health.

5856
03:40:34,875 --> 03:40:35,476
I've learned that sprays MAY be

5857
03:40:35,476 --> 03:40:36,176
damaging our giant kelp.

5858
03:40:36,176 --> 03:40:38,576
These surfactants can dissolve

5859
03:40:39,179 --> 03:40:39,880
the protected mucilage layer

5860
03:40:39,880 --> 03:40:40,347
and prevent microscopic Spore

5861
03:40:40,347 --> 03:40:40,981
Reef attachment.

5862
03:40:40,981 --> 03:40:43,784
I've shared this data with

5863
03:40:43,784 --> 03:40:44,452
scientists at sio and ucsd who

5864
03:40:44,452 --> 03:40:45,152
confirmed that this unknown

5865
03:40:45,152 --> 03:40:45,619
variable was not considered in

5866
03:40:45,619 --> 03:40:47,619
their research.

5867
03:40:48,789 --> 03:40:49,457
They noted the geographic

5868
03:40:49,457 --> 03:40:50,124
correlation matching canopy

5869
03:40:50,124 --> 03:40:52,524
collapse local to localized

5870
03:40:53,194 --> 03:40:53,828
Fallujah's northern beds and

5871
03:40:53,828 --> 03:40:54,161
intend to study this data

5872
03:40:54,161 --> 03:40:54,862
further.

5873
03:40:54,862 --> 03:40:57,431
My public records request show

5874
03:40:57,431 --> 03:40:59,431
despite budget shortfalls

5875
03:41:01,602 --> 03:41:02,302
the city spent $63,946.36 in

5876
03:41:02,302 --> 03:41:02,970
public funds on product alone

5877
03:41:02,970 --> 03:41:05,970
to execute these harmful and

5878
03:41:06,741 --> 03:41:07,341
unpermitted sprays which expose

5879
03:41:07,341 --> 03:41:07,875
the city to significant

5880
03:41:07,875 --> 03:41:08,542
financial liability.

5881
03:41:08,542 --> 03:41:11,178
Now Parks and RECs wants to

5882
03:41:11,178 --> 03:41:11,545
spend more while closing public

5883
03:41:11,545 --> 03:41:12,212
restrooms.

5884
03:41:12,212 --> 03:41:12,880
I respectfully request this

5885
03:41:12,880 --> 03:41:15,280
Council deny pending permit

5886
03:41:16,383 --> 03:41:16,918
application pr dash 1154436

5887
03:41:16,918 --> 03:41:19,318
Order a City Auditor

5888
03:41:21,122 --> 03:41:21,822
investigation into possible

5889
03:41:21,822 --> 03:41:22,123
violation of state and federal

5890
03:41:22,123 --> 03:41:22,657
laws.

5891
03:41:22,657 --> 03:41:23,357
Look into potential

5892
03:41:23,357 --> 03:41:25,757
misallocation of budget funds

5893
03:41:26,627 --> 03:41:27,228
And finally draft a science

5894
03:41:27,228 --> 03:41:27,928
based natural resources

5895
03:41:27,928 --> 03:41:30,928
management plan as required by

5896
03:41:31,980 --> 03:41:31,799
the city's own lcp Lawyers

5897
03:41:31,799 --> 03:41:32,660
Community Plan and the Coastal

5898
03:41:32,660 --> 03:41:32,733
Act.

5899
03:41:32,733 --> 03:41:35,733
I presented and shared this

5900
03:41:36,637 --> 03:41:37,338
data with the Joint Parks and

5901
03:41:37,338 --> 03:41:37,805
beaches and towns concluded My

5902
03:41:37,805 --> 03:41:38,606
apologies Becky.

5903
03:41:38,606 --> 03:41:40,208
>> Wrap if you can please

5904
03:41:40,208 --> 03:41:42,208
unmute.

5905
03:41:45,679 --> 03:41:46,547
>> >> Good evening.

5906
03:41:46,547 --> 03:41:47,248
>> My name is Becky Rapp and

5907
03:41:47,248 --> 03:41:50,248
I'm here tonight to encourage

5908
03:41:50,450 --> 03:41:51,185
the city to prioritize

5909
03:41:51,185 --> 03:41:51,819
transportation safety with more

5910
03:41:51,819 --> 03:41:54,819
urgency when it relates to

5911
03:41:55,123 --> 03:41:55,890
marijuana consumption.

5912
03:41:55,890 --> 03:41:59,490
We need to better ensure that

5913
03:41:59,694 --> 03:42:00,327
everyone who uses our roads and

5914
03:42:00,327 --> 03:42:00,661
transit systems gets home

5915
03:42:00,661 --> 03:42:02,661
safely.

5916
03:42:04,532 --> 03:42:05,199
Federal transportation agencies

5917
03:42:05,199 --> 03:42:05,833
and researchers have agreed

5918
03:42:05,833 --> 03:42:08,833
that this correlation is a

5919
03:42:09,537 --> 03:42:10,104
challenge unlike alcohol.

5920
03:42:10,104 --> 03:42:12,504
There is currently no

5921
03:42:13,774 --> 03:42:14,442
scientifically validated test

5922
03:42:14,442 --> 03:42:15,143
that can accurately measure

5923
03:42:15,143 --> 03:42:17,543
real time marijuana impairment

5924
03:42:19,460 --> 03:42:19,714
and federal research has found

5925
03:42:19,714 --> 03:42:23,314
that thc levels in blood or

5926
03:42:23,884 --> 03:42:24,518
other bodily fluids do not

5927
03:42:24,518 --> 03:42:25,219
accurately correlate with

5928
03:42:25,219 --> 03:42:25,619
the person's level of driving

5929
03:42:25,619 --> 03:42:27,619
impairment.

5930
03:42:28,823 --> 03:42:29,457
Because of this, determining

5931
03:42:29,457 --> 03:42:30,124
impairment really remains

5932
03:42:30,124 --> 03:42:32,124
significantly more difficult

5933
03:42:33,294 --> 03:42:33,694
than measuring alcohol

5934
03:42:33,694 --> 03:42:34,328
impairment.

5935
03:42:34,328 --> 03:42:36,328
>> Transportation Patient

5936
03:42:37,865 --> 03:42:38,433
safety organizations

5937
03:42:38,433 --> 03:42:39,133
representing trucking,

5938
03:42:39,133 --> 03:42:41,533
aviation, rail, public transit

5939
03:42:42,737 --> 03:42:43,404
and other industries have

5940
03:42:43,404 --> 03:42:44,105
expressed concern about this

5941
03:42:44,105 --> 03:42:46,505
issue because their employees

5942
03:42:48,409 --> 03:42:49,430
perform safety sensitive jobs

5943
03:42:49,430 --> 03:42:49,610
where impairment can have

5944
03:42:49,610 --> 03:42:51,610
serious consequences.

5945
03:42:53,113 --> 03:42:53,781
These concerns show us

5946
03:42:53,781 --> 03:42:56,781
the importance of relying on

5947
03:42:57,418 --> 03:42:58,119
sound science and accurate data

5948
03:42:58,119 --> 03:42:58,486
when developing public safety

5949
03:42:58,486 --> 03:43:00,486
policies.

5950
03:43:02,390 --> 03:43:03,570
These same questions are

5951
03:43:03,570 --> 03:43:03,724
relevant here in San Diego.

5952
03:43:03,724 --> 03:43:06,124
Are we collecting sufficient

5953
03:43:08,196 --> 03:43:08,830
information about marijuana to

5954
03:43:08,830 --> 03:43:09,297
relieve that impairment in

5955
03:43:09,297 --> 03:43:11,297
traffic crashes?

5956
03:43:13,334 --> 03:43:14,200
Do we know how often a permit

5957
03:43:14,200 --> 03:43:17,200
is a contributing factor in

5958
03:43:18,172 --> 03:43:18,873
serious or fatal collisions And

5959
03:43:18,873 --> 03:43:19,607
are first responders and law

5960
03:43:19,607 --> 03:43:21,607
enforcement agencies collecting

5961
03:43:22,577 --> 03:43:23,311
consistent data that can help

5962
03:43:23,311 --> 03:43:23,944
inform future policy decisions?

5963
03:43:23,944 --> 03:43:26,944
I encourage the Council to

5964
03:43:28,282 --> 03:43:29,170
request information from cpb

5965
03:43:29,170 --> 03:43:29,651
and fire rescue departments and

5966
03:43:29,651 --> 03:43:31,651
other appropriate agencies

5967
03:43:33,488 --> 03:43:34,550
regarding marijuana impairment

5968
03:43:34,550 --> 03:43:34,756
in traffic incidences.

5969
03:43:34,756 --> 03:43:37,756
That information can help you

5970
03:43:38,926 --> 03:43:39,527
determine whether additional

5971
03:43:39,527 --> 03:43:40,128
education prevention or

5972
03:43:40,128 --> 03:43:42,128
enforcement efforts are

5973
03:43:43,765 --> 03:43:44,532
warranted.

5974
03:43:44,532 --> 03:43:45,233
San Diego has an opportunity to

5975
03:43:45,233 --> 03:43:48,233
lead by making evidence based

5976
03:43:49,938 --> 03:43:50,638
decisions and collecting our

5977
03:43:50,638 --> 03:43:52,638
terminals, concluded Madison.

5978
03:43:54,109 --> 03:43:54,877
>> If you can please unmute.

5979
03:43:54,877 --> 03:43:57,877
>> Hello, my name is Madison

5980
03:43:59,214 --> 03:43:59,948
and I'm here to talk about

5981
03:43:59,948 --> 03:44:00,615
youth substance use prevention.

5982
03:44:00,615 --> 03:44:03,150
When California voters were

5983
03:44:04,619 --> 03:44:05,286
asked to permit recreational

5984
03:44:05,286 --> 03:44:05,954
marijuana they were told it

5985
03:44:05,954 --> 03:44:06,288
would eliminate the illegal

5986
03:44:06,288 --> 03:44:08,288
market.

5987
03:44:10,910 --> 03:44:10,725
Nearly a decade later

5988
03:44:10,725 --> 03:44:13,125
the opposite has happened.

5989
03:44:14,950 --> 03:44:14,796
Just in the last three months,

5990
03:44:14,796 --> 03:44:17,196
Governor Newsom announced that

5991
03:44:17,332 --> 03:44:18,199
law enforcement seized more

5992
03:44:18,199 --> 03:44:20,599
than 63,000 pounds of illegal

5993
03:44:22,237 --> 03:44:24,237
marijuana worth $104 million

5994
03:44:26,508 --> 03:44:27,108
eradicated nearly 90,000

5995
03:44:27,108 --> 03:44:27,809
illegal cannabis plants,

5996
03:44:27,809 --> 03:44:30,209
confiscated firearms and made

5997
03:44:32,470 --> 03:44:32,681
arrests at illegal grove sites.

5998
03:44:32,681 --> 03:44:34,681
Since 2022, California has

5999
03:44:36,584 --> 03:44:37,219
seized and destroyed more than

6000
03:44:37,219 --> 03:44:39,219
841,000 pounds of illicit

6001
03:44:41,622 --> 03:44:41,956
cannabis valued at over $1.3

6002
03:44:41,956 --> 03:44:42,691
billion.

6003
03:44:42,691 --> 03:44:46,291
These aren't signs of a problem

6004
03:44:47,229 --> 03:44:47,796
that's been solved.

6005
03:44:47,796 --> 03:44:48,530
They're evidence that

6006
03:44:48,530 --> 03:44:51,530
the illegal market continues to

6007
03:44:51,699 --> 03:44:52,200
flourish alongside

6008
03:44:52,200 --> 03:44:52,834
the permitted one.

6009
03:44:52,834 --> 03:44:53,501
Illegal growers also leave

6010
03:44:53,501 --> 03:44:55,901
behind toxic pesticides and

6011
03:44:57,438 --> 03:44:58,390
chemicals that contaminate

6012
03:44:58,390 --> 03:44:58,707
streams and wildlife and

6013
03:44:58,707 --> 03:44:59,700
ultimately put consumers at

6014
03:44:59,700 --> 03:45:01,700
risk.

6015
03:45:03,345 --> 03:45:03,946
These operations often exploit

6016
03:45:03,946 --> 03:45:04,613
workers and are tied to

6017
03:45:04,613 --> 03:45:06,613
organized criminal networks.

6018
03:45:09,500 --> 03:45:09,718
As San Diego considers cannabis

6019
03:45:09,718 --> 03:45:12,718
related policies, I urge you

6020
03:45:13,621 --> 03:45:14,256
not to assume that expanding

6021
03:45:14,256 --> 03:45:14,923
the permitted market will

6022
03:45:14,923 --> 03:45:16,923
eliminate illegal activity.

6023
03:45:19,494 --> 03:45:20,128
California's experience shows

6024
03:45:20,128 --> 03:45:20,896
that the black market can

6025
03:45:20,896 --> 03:45:23,896
persist and even thrive despite

6026
03:45:24,366 --> 03:45:24,799
widespread commercial

6027
03:45:24,799 --> 03:45:25,434
availability.

6028
03:45:25,434 --> 03:45:27,434
Please continue supporting

6029
03:45:30,639 --> 03:45:31,206
strong enforcement against

6030
03:45:31,206 --> 03:45:31,806
illegal operators and

6031
03:45:31,806 --> 03:45:32,374
prioritize policies that

6032
03:45:32,374 --> 03:45:34,374
protect public health.

6033
03:45:36,278 --> 03:45:36,678
Neighborhood safety and our

6034
03:45:36,678 --> 03:45:37,379
environment.

6035
03:45:37,379 --> 03:45:37,879
Over expanding access to high

6036
03:45:37,879 --> 03:45:39,879
potency marijuana.

6037
03:45:42,484 --> 03:45:42,951
Thank you.

6038
03:45:42,951 --> 03:45:43,919
>> Thank you.

6039
03:45:43,919 --> 03:45:48,119
Next is my big If you can

6040
03:45:48,357 --> 03:45:48,757
please unmute.

6041
03:45:48,757 --> 03:45:49,124
All right.

6042
03:45:49,124 --> 03:45:51,124
Thank you.

6043
03:45:53,940 --> 03:45:53,762
Where Beakman local U.S.

6044
03:45:53,762 --> 03:45:54,496
Communities are simply being

6045
03:45:54,496 --> 03:45:55,970
allowed to better question long

6046
03:45:55,970 --> 03:45:57,497
term U.S. International

6047
03:45:58,734 --> 03:45:59,434
relationships and how U.S. Data

6048
03:45:59,434 --> 03:46:00,169
companies like Fox seem to be

6049
03:46:00,169 --> 03:46:00,803
only developing its data within

6050
03:46:00,803 --> 03:46:03,203
the context of supporting

6051
03:46:04,673 --> 03:46:05,107
international policies of war

6052
03:46:05,107 --> 03:46:05,841
and its harm.

6053
03:46:05,841 --> 03:46:06,541
I've been describing for months

6054
03:46:06,541 --> 03:46:09,945
now how the city of Oakland in

6055
03:46:09,945 --> 03:46:10,579
this county Ballymena are

6056
03:46:10,579 --> 03:46:11,213
currently developing an 18

6057
03:46:11,213 --> 03:46:13,613
month process of community

6058
03:46:15,751 --> 03:46:16,518
input to discuss best practices

6059
03:46:16,518 --> 03:46:17,253
in leading park and in working

6060
03:46:17,253 --> 03:46:17,619
towards a new better principled

6061
03:46:17,619 --> 03:46:19,619
pr vendor.

6062
03:46:20,956 --> 03:46:21,622
This is simply a good process

6063
03:46:21,622 --> 03:46:22,291
of community participation

6064
03:46:22,291 --> 03:46:22,691
the San Diego community can

6065
03:46:22,691 --> 03:46:24,691
learn from.

6066
03:46:27,290 --> 03:46:27,596
From this I hope the San Diego

6067
03:46:27,596 --> 03:46:28,263
community can also be

6068
03:46:28,263 --> 03:46:28,998
considering a yearly review

6069
03:46:28,998 --> 03:46:31,998
process and tech redundancy and

6070
03:46:32,701 --> 03:46:33,435
how small surveillance tech

6071
03:46:33,435 --> 03:46:34,103
reductions reductions each year

6072
03:46:34,103 --> 03:46:34,637
can offer a more efficient,

6073
03:46:34,637 --> 03:46:36,637
strategically placed

6074
03:46:38,507 --> 03:46:39,275
neighborhood tech practices.

6075
03:46:39,275 --> 03:46:39,941
Theory This will not take away

6076
03:46:39,941 --> 03:46:42,941
much from current San Diego

6077
03:46:43,579 --> 03:46:44,213
neighborhood public safety and

6078
03:46:44,213 --> 03:46:44,947
we will have ongoing good

6079
03:46:44,947 --> 03:46:45,514
efforts towards responsibility,

6080
03:46:45,514 --> 03:46:47,514
clarity, oversight and

6081
03:46:49,618 --> 03:46:49,984
consistency with accountability

6082
03:46:49,984 --> 03:46:50,653
policies.

6083
03:46:50,653 --> 03:46:54,253
From all of this I strongly

6084
03:46:55,991 --> 03:46:56,659
feel San Diego City Council and

6085
03:46:56,659 --> 03:46:57,359
city government will simply

6086
03:46:57,359 --> 03:46:58,590
have to make more clear and to

6087
03:46:58,590 --> 03:47:01,300
more openly relate to the San

6088
03:47:01,300 --> 03:47:01,764
Diego community at this time

6089
03:47:01,764 --> 03:47:02,498
and help better conversations

6090
03:47:02,498 --> 03:47:03,232
and ideas are developing within

6091
03:47:03,232 --> 03:47:06,232
the current spoken and unspoken

6092
03:47:06,802 --> 03:47:07,469
procedures and guidelines of

6093
03:47:07,469 --> 03:47:08,170
fda approved in real time in

6094
03:47:08,170 --> 03:47:10,570
our current San Diego

6095
03:47:12,975 --> 03:47:13,642
neighborhoods.

6096
03:47:13,642 --> 03:47:14,310
Perhaps this could become a

6097
03:47:14,310 --> 03:47:16,710
helpful good public meeting

6098
03:47:17,178 --> 03:47:17,847
conversation during the 2026

6099
03:47:17,847 --> 03:47:18,414
fall election time and about

6100
03:47:18,414 --> 03:47:20,814
current San Diego Tech

6101
03:47:23,753 --> 03:47:24,453
Accountability Neighborhood

6102
03:47:24,453 --> 03:47:25,154
public safety concerns and its

6103
03:47:25,154 --> 03:47:25,588
ways of neighborhood community

6104
03:47:25,588 --> 03:47:27,588
hearing ideas.

6105
03:47:28,391 --> 03:47:29,125
All sides in the 2027.

6106
03:47:29,125 --> 03:47:32,725
These ideas are meant to be

6107
03:47:33,929 --> 03:47:34,764
open statement of good logic

6108
03:47:34,764 --> 03:47:35,463
and to help add to the current

6109
03:47:35,463 --> 03:47:35,965
ongoing San Diego conversation

6110
03:47:35,965 --> 03:47:37,965
on these subjects.

6111
03:47:41,370 --> 03:47:42,710
I hope people like Joi and

6112
03:47:42,710 --> 03:47:44,471
Councilperson LaCava can take

6113
03:47:46,609 --> 03:47:47,243
these words to heart and I hope

6114
03:47:47,243 --> 03:47:47,843
we can be building trust.

6115
03:47:47,843 --> 03:47:48,511
>> These ideas have been

6116
03:47:48,511 --> 03:47:49,144
towards trust and can really

6117
03:47:49,144 --> 03:47:51,747
take these ideas to heart.

6118
03:47:51,747 --> 03:47:52,615
Thank you.

6119
03:47:52,615 --> 03:47:56,215
>> Thank you Judy Strong if you

6120
03:47:56,953 --> 03:47:57,553
can please on the Good evening

6121
03:47:57,553 --> 03:47:59,953
San Diego City Council.

6122
03:48:02,258 --> 03:48:02,959
As most of you know, the u-t

6123
03:48:02,959 --> 03:48:03,493
has been publishing letters to

6124
03:48:03,493 --> 03:48:05,493
the editor regarding

6125
03:48:08,640 --> 03:48:08,598
the closure of the 13 bathrooms

6126
03:48:08,598 --> 03:48:10,998
in Mission Bay Area.

6127
03:48:12,340 --> 03:48:12,735
And as I was reading the one

6128
03:48:12,735 --> 03:48:13,603
today about the fellow who had

6129
03:48:13,603 --> 03:48:17,203
colitis, I was sort of overcome

6130
03:48:18,408 --> 03:48:19,410
by my own personal experience

6131
03:48:19,410 --> 03:48:22,641
with a child who also has

6132
03:48:24,680 --> 03:48:25,448
colitis and the trauma that has

6133
03:48:25,448 --> 03:48:26,315
been her life since she was six

6134
03:48:26,315 --> 03:48:30,515
and how much it has a limited

6135
03:48:30,520 --> 03:48:31,254
how she can navigate her world.

6136
03:48:31,254 --> 03:48:31,787
She's now a college student and

6137
03:48:31,787 --> 03:48:34,187
has had much medical

6138
03:48:35,792 --> 03:48:36,459
interventions since then

6139
03:48:36,459 --> 03:48:37,590
including an operation that

6140
03:48:37,590 --> 03:48:40,590
created a stoma for her.

6141
03:48:41,764 --> 03:48:42,365
But just and that's had its own

6142
03:48:42,365 --> 03:48:42,999
ramifications as you can

6143
03:48:42,999 --> 03:48:43,366
imagine towards finding a

6144
03:48:43,366 --> 03:48:45,366
bathroom.

6145
03:48:48,371 --> 03:48:49,380
So I'm wondering for a city who

6146
03:48:49,380 --> 03:48:52,380
has always cared about clean

6147
03:48:54,244 --> 03:48:55,110
air, clean water, public health

6148
03:48:55,110 --> 03:48:55,411
and safety, what the heck are

6149
03:48:55,411 --> 03:48:56,112
we thinking?

6150
03:48:56,112 --> 03:48:59,712
We can't have something in our

6151
03:49:00,450 --> 03:49:01,170
we can't lack public bathrooms

6152
03:49:01,170 --> 03:49:01,718
in our public spaces.

6153
03:49:01,718 --> 03:49:02,218
We just can't It doesn't make

6154
03:49:02,218 --> 03:49:04,618
any sense at all.

6155
03:49:06,723 --> 03:49:07,290
It harms the reputation of

6156
03:49:07,290 --> 03:49:07,891
the city of San Diego.

6157
03:49:07,891 --> 03:49:08,623
It undermines our goals.

6158
03:49:08,623 --> 03:49:12,223
It goes against the rhetoric we

6159
03:49:12,829 --> 03:49:13,496
say every day And my

6160
03:49:13,496 --> 03:49:15,896
granddaughter isn't alone in

6161
03:49:18,700 --> 03:49:19,268
this situation by any stretch

6162
03:49:19,268 --> 03:49:20,690
of the imagination.

6163
03:49:20,690 --> 03:49:20,670
We need to rethink it and we

6164
03:49:20,670 --> 03:49:21,170
need to rethink it now.

6165
03:49:21,170 --> 03:49:22,305
Thank you.

6166
03:49:22,305 --> 03:49:24,305
Thank you.

6167
03:49:29,912 --> 03:49:30,413
>> Christine Wellborn.

6168
03:49:30,413 --> 03:49:32,413
Christine Wilburn.

6169
03:49:36,319 --> 03:49:36,686
I can't unring the bell.

6170
03:49:36,686 --> 03:49:37,353
I'm sorry.

6171
03:49:37,353 --> 03:49:37,854
Christine one district one.

6172
03:49:37,854 --> 03:49:39,854
I'm calling about

6173
03:49:39,956 --> 03:49:40,690
the disgraceful, disgusting and

6174
03:49:40,690 --> 03:49:41,391
unacceptable bathroom closures.

6175
03:49:41,391 --> 03:49:44,391
It's my understanding that no

6176
03:49:46,563 --> 03:49:47,960
staff positions were eliminated

6177
03:49:47,960 --> 03:49:49,960
eliminated for this.

6178
03:49:51,834 --> 03:49:54,834
So for $550,000, why don't we

6179
03:49:57,474 --> 03:49:58,174
have some sort of drive to so

6180
03:49:58,174 --> 03:49:58,841
residents can donate cleaning

6181
03:49:58,841 --> 03:50:01,841
supplies and toilet paper if

6182
03:50:03,579 --> 03:50:04,314
that's an issue because it's

6183
03:50:04,314 --> 03:50:05,148
not a staff issue and residents

6184
03:50:05,148 --> 03:50:08,748
would be much more willing to

6185
03:50:10,119 --> 03:50:10,453
donate actual products and

6186
03:50:10,453 --> 03:50:11,220
things.

6187
03:50:11,220 --> 03:50:14,220
Then vote for more taxes

6188
03:50:15,926 --> 03:50:16,560
because we see that our money

6189
03:50:16,560 --> 03:50:17,294
is not being spent wisely.

6190
03:50:17,294 --> 03:50:20,294
So that's my suggestion is

6191
03:50:21,365 --> 03:50:22,232
doing that.

6192
03:50:22,232 --> 03:50:25,832
>> Also I'm not sure if you're

6193
03:50:26,469 --> 03:50:27,204
aware but the new trash trucks

6194
03:50:27,204 --> 03:50:27,770
require three feet clearance in

6195
03:50:27,770 --> 03:50:30,770
order to pick them up.

6196
03:50:32,142 --> 03:50:32,541
They cannot get in more narrow

6197
03:50:32,541 --> 03:50:33,209
area.

6198
03:50:33,209 --> 03:50:33,910
I don't have that problem

6199
03:50:33,910 --> 03:50:34,644
personally but I've heard that

6200
03:50:34,644 --> 03:50:38,244
people have not had their trash

6201
03:50:38,348 --> 03:50:39,490
picked up for multiple weeks

6202
03:50:39,490 --> 03:50:39,816
because of the new trucks and

6203
03:50:39,816 --> 03:50:42,816
they're in areas where parking

6204
03:50:44,821 --> 03:50:45,488
is not easy to come by.

6205
03:50:45,488 --> 03:50:46,122
So I'm not sure what

6206
03:50:46,122 --> 03:50:49,122
the solution is for that.

6207
03:50:49,959 --> 03:50:50,694
But when you're greenlighting

6208
03:50:50,694 --> 03:50:51,393
all these issues and apartment

6209
03:50:51,393 --> 03:50:53,793
complexes and everything else

6210
03:50:56,800 --> 03:50:57,467
and not requiring ample parking

6211
03:50:57,467 --> 03:50:58,201
where people are supposed to

6212
03:50:58,201 --> 03:50:58,935
put their trash cans if they're

6213
03:50:58,935 --> 03:51:02,539
not going to get picked up and

6214
03:51:02,539 --> 03:51:03,206
left there three feet apart,

6215
03:51:03,206 --> 03:51:03,840
then that's impossible to do

6216
03:51:03,840 --> 03:51:06,240
because there's no space.

6217
03:51:08,211 --> 03:51:08,812
So anyway and also PRESIDENT

6218
03:51:08,812 --> 03:51:11,212
Lacob and council person

6219
03:51:14,651 --> 03:51:15,318
Whitburn, I appreciate you to

6220
03:51:15,318 --> 03:51:16,540
paying attention when people

6221
03:51:16,540 --> 03:51:16,520
speak in public at this not and

6222
03:51:16,520 --> 03:51:18,520
public comment.

6223
03:51:21,240 --> 03:51:21,692
The rest of you I don't know

6224
03:51:21,692 --> 03:51:22,392
what games you're playing on

6225
03:51:22,392 --> 03:51:23,930
your phone but I'd really like

6226
03:51:23,930 --> 03:51:23,593
to find out Seems like they're

6227
03:51:23,593 --> 03:51:25,593
very entertaining.

6228
03:51:25,963 --> 03:51:26,796
Thank you.

6229
03:51:26,796 --> 03:51:27,630
>> You'll have a good night.

6230
03:51:27,630 --> 03:51:27,764
Bye.

6231
03:51:27,764 --> 03:51:28,980
Our final speaker is Jeanette

6232
03:51:28,980 --> 03:51:30,980
Sanchez.

6233
03:51:34,700 --> 03:51:34,738
Jeanette Sanchez also career

6234
03:51:34,738 --> 03:51:36,738
readiness minority assistant

6235
03:51:38,750 --> 03:51:40,475
General Election Process Caucus

6236
03:51:45,781 --> 03:51:46,416
proposer The a lot of those

6237
03:51:46,416 --> 03:51:48,816
ministers don't like what

6238
03:51:49,386 --> 03:51:50,120
the minister's proposal came.

6239
03:51:50,120 --> 03:51:52,520
They always emphasize quarters.

6240
03:51:55,580 --> 03:51:55,592
But our well-established

6241
03:51:55,592 --> 03:51:57,592
consequence on you.

6242
03:52:01,598 --> 03:52:02,265
Good evening or good afternoon

6243
03:52:02,265 --> 03:52:02,599
is how do you City council.

6244
03:52:02,599 --> 03:52:04,599
Sanchez.

6245
03:52:07,404 --> 03:52:08,105
My name is Jack Butland.

6246
03:52:08,105 --> 03:52:08,438
Notice that sometimes you must

6247
03:52:08,438 --> 03:52:10,438
be nice.

6248
03:52:11,508 --> 03:52:12,750
My name is in Essentials and I

6249
03:52:12,750 --> 03:52:14,475
live in City Heights.

6250
03:52:18,749 --> 03:52:19,483
>> I think I am here as a

6251
03:52:19,483 --> 03:52:21,883
conservative parent because I'm

6252
03:52:24,455 --> 03:52:24,755
concerned about secondhand

6253
03:52:24,755 --> 03:52:25,556
smoke.

6254
03:52:25,556 --> 03:52:25,989
As a mother in communities in

6255
03:52:25,989 --> 03:52:27,989
my community.

6256
03:52:29,226 --> 03:52:30,940
Thank you for asthma.

6257
03:52:30,940 --> 03:52:33,940
>> I have three children that

6258
03:52:35,265 --> 03:52:36,330
have asthma.

6259
03:52:36,330 --> 03:52:36,767
>> In other words, when they

6260
03:52:36,767 --> 03:52:39,767
were diagnosed the doctors gave

6261
03:52:41,639 --> 03:52:44,390
them inhalers because of

6262
03:52:47,745 --> 03:52:48,479
the economic oxygen in

6263
03:52:48,479 --> 03:52:49,179
the cooperative and gave us

6264
03:52:49,179 --> 03:52:49,614
different advice about how to

6265
03:52:49,614 --> 03:52:51,614
protect them.

6266
03:52:52,283 --> 03:52:55,883
They don't know my voice but

6267
03:52:58,689 --> 03:52:59,560
that was all they gave me my

6268
03:52:59,560 --> 03:52:59,757
sympathy.

6269
03:52:59,757 --> 03:53:00,423
They didn't give me any advice

6270
03:53:00,423 --> 03:53:04,230
about what to do when people

6271
03:53:04,895 --> 03:53:05,662
are smoking near them.

6272
03:53:05,662 --> 03:53:09,262
And we focused on the important

6273
03:53:09,666 --> 03:53:09,971
things like can public schools

6274
03:53:09,971 --> 03:53:10,700
.

6275
03:53:10,700 --> 03:53:11,435
It is very frustrating and I

6276
03:53:11,435 --> 03:53:11,969
feel like I am not able to take

6277
03:53:11,969 --> 03:53:14,369
care of my children.

6278
03:53:18,642 --> 03:53:19,410
What cannot the in public

6279
03:53:19,410 --> 03:53:22,146
because we don't have any

6280
03:53:22,146 --> 03:53:22,446
comprehensive lays about I'm

6281
03:53:22,446 --> 03:53:23,470
sorry.

6282
03:53:23,470 --> 03:53:23,647
We do not have any

6283
03:53:23,647 --> 03:53:25,647
comprehensive laws about

6284
03:53:28,853 --> 03:53:29,786
smoking in public.

6285
03:53:29,786 --> 03:53:33,386
We will only be living in

6286
03:53:34,792 --> 03:53:35,526
multifamily dwellings.

6287
03:53:35,526 --> 03:53:35,826
Thank you for being supportive

6288
03:53:35,826 --> 03:53:37,826
of it.

6289
03:53:39,563 --> 03:53:40,231
It's not it's probably all

6290
03:53:40,231 --> 03:53:40,965
the smoke that actually goes

6291
03:53:40,965 --> 03:53:43,965
through all the different multi

6292
03:53:46,771 --> 03:53:47,103
dwelling units is very much a

6293
03:53:47,103 --> 03:53:47,938
problem.

6294
03:53:47,938 --> 03:53:51,175
But I'm familiar with a lot of

6295
03:53:51,175 --> 03:53:51,909
young people and for many

6296
03:53:51,909 --> 03:53:54,309
families multi family dwellings

6297
03:53:57,480 --> 03:53:57,548
is the only option for housing

6298
03:53:57,548 --> 03:53:58,215
density economics.

6299
03:53:58,215 --> 03:54:01,815
But it is very difficult to

6300
03:54:02,286 --> 03:54:02,987
find multifamily dwellings or

6301
03:54:02,987 --> 03:54:05,987
any dwelling that is actually

6302
03:54:12,630 --> 03:54:13,397
cost efficient.

6303
03:54:13,397 --> 03:54:14,264
You get elements that are cost

6304
03:54:14,264 --> 03:54:17,864
efficient and that are free of

6305
03:54:24,541 --> 03:54:25,275
smoke in others and the smoke

6306
03:54:25,275 --> 03:54:25,910
from other units comes into our

6307
03:54:25,910 --> 03:54:28,310
house through the windows.

6308
03:54:31,649 --> 03:54:32,349
People either see it through

6309
03:54:32,349 --> 03:54:35,949
the walls and through the air

6310
03:54:37,989 --> 03:54:38,489
ducting in the units or get

6311
03:54:38,489 --> 03:54:39,323
sent to people in

6312
03:54:39,323 --> 03:54:42,323
the development of events like

6313
03:54:43,194 --> 03:54:44,280
Facebook.

6314
03:54:44,280 --> 03:54:44,729
A lot of people would just say

6315
03:54:44,729 --> 03:54:45,363
just open your windows so that

6316
03:54:45,363 --> 03:54:48,332
you can let in fresh air.

6317
03:54:48,332 --> 03:54:49,330
But what's the problem?

6318
03:54:49,330 --> 03:54:51,433
But that doesn't resolve

6319
03:54:55,390 --> 03:54:55,773
the problem in multiple ways.

6320
03:54:55,773 --> 03:54:56,407
And once the smoke stays within

6321
03:54:56,407 --> 03:54:57,642
our apartments, within our

6322
03:54:57,642 --> 03:55:00,420
furniture and within our

6323
03:55:04,148 --> 03:55:04,782
clothing and us and that is

6324
03:55:04,782 --> 03:55:05,316
the air that our family is

6325
03:55:05,316 --> 03:55:07,316
breathing every day.

6326
03:55:10,688 --> 03:55:11,550
Let's hope it doesn't become

6327
03:55:11,550 --> 03:55:11,756
the norm.

6328
03:55:11,756 --> 03:55:12,422
>> Our children are constantly

6329
03:55:12,422 --> 03:55:14,822
complaining about how strong

6330
03:55:19,430 --> 03:55:20,498
the smoke smell is.

6331
03:55:20,498 --> 03:55:21,320
And a lot of times they cough a

6332
03:55:21,320 --> 03:55:21,566
lot just because of

6333
03:55:21,566 --> 03:55:23,566
the constant smell.

6334
03:55:26,471 --> 03:55:26,838
We're going to be in a

6335
03:55:26,838 --> 03:55:27,538
position.

6336
03:55:27,538 --> 03:55:28,139
No family should have to live

6337
03:55:28,139 --> 03:55:30,139
under these conditions.

6338
03:55:30,374 --> 03:55:33,374
That is extremely common for

6339
03:55:35,546 --> 03:55:36,347
middle.

6340
03:55:36,347 --> 03:55:37,114
>> We are asking that the law

6341
03:55:37,114 --> 03:55:37,648
and that you will put us and

6342
03:55:37,648 --> 03:55:39,648
our children first.

6343
03:55:41,953 --> 03:55:46,153
What is in front of the big

6344
03:55:47,592 --> 03:55:49,592
corporate smoking companies

6345
03:55:53,164 --> 03:55:53,464
cigaret companies and the media

6346
03:55:53,464 --> 03:55:54,232
?

6347
03:55:54,232 --> 03:55:54,899
San Diego presents itself as a

6348
03:55:54,899 --> 03:55:57,299
clean family friendly city.

6349
03:56:01,206 --> 03:56:04,206
Political support for people is

6350
03:56:06,578 --> 03:56:07,311
legitimate but the politics and

6351
03:56:07,311 --> 03:56:07,745
the policies of the city do not

6352
03:56:07,745 --> 03:56:08,345
reflect that.

6353
03:56:08,345 --> 03:56:09,130
Thank you for our call.

6354
03:56:09,130 --> 03:56:09,681
Thank you for allowing me to

6355
03:56:09,681 --> 03:56:12,810
speak then Council PRESIDENT

6356
03:56:12,250 --> 03:56:12,717
That does conclude on a general

6357
03:56:12,717 --> 03:56:13,840
public comment.

6358
03:56:13,840 --> 03:56:13,652
All right.

6359
03:56:13,652 --> 03:56:14,318
Thank you, City Clerk.

6360
03:56:14,318 --> 03:56:14,986
Does the city attorney have

6361
03:56:14,986 --> 03:56:17,255
anything to report out from

6362
03:56:17,255 --> 03:56:17,655
closed session?

6363
03:56:17,655 --> 03:56:18,560
>> Yes.

6364
03:56:18,560 --> 03:56:18,556
Thank you.

6365
03:56:18,556 --> 03:56:19,190
Council PRESIDENT.

6366
03:56:19,190 --> 03:56:22,190
Today in a special closed

6367
03:56:23,460 --> 03:56:24,195
session meeting the city

6368
03:56:24,195 --> 03:56:24,862
council voted on special closed

6369
03:56:24,862 --> 03:56:27,862
session item number four to

6370
03:56:29,534 --> 03:56:30,101
initiate litigation Once

6371
03:56:30,101 --> 03:56:30,668
litigation is formally

6372
03:56:30,668 --> 03:56:31,269
commenced, the action

6373
03:56:31,269 --> 03:56:33,669
the defendants and other

6374
03:56:35,974 --> 03:56:36,675
particulars will be disclosed

6375
03:56:36,675 --> 03:56:37,242
to any person upon inquiry

6376
03:56:37,242 --> 03:56:37,976
unless to do so would

6377
03:56:37,976 --> 03:56:40,376
jeopardize effective service of

6378
03:56:41,613 --> 03:56:42,470
process or settlement

6379
03:56:42,470 --> 03:56:42,781
negotiations.

6380
03:56:42,781 --> 03:56:43,810
The motion passed unanimously 9

6381
03:56:43,810 --> 03:56:43,748
to 0.

6382
03:56:43,748 --> 03:56:46,148
That concludes my comments.

6383
03:56:49,120 --> 03:56:49,521
All right.

6384
03:56:49,521 --> 03:56:50,288
Thank you.

6385
03:56:50,288 --> 03:56:51,210
We will now adjourn as the city

6386
03:56:51,210 --> 03:56:51,389
council to convene as a housing

6387
03:56:51,389 --> 03:56:53,389
authority.

6388
03:56:53,692 --> 03:56:54,392
Does the city attorney have

6389
03:56:54,392 --> 03:56:54,993
anything to report out from

6390
03:56:54,993 --> 03:56:55,327
Housing Authority closed

6391
03:56:55,327 --> 03:56:55,660
session.

6392
03:56:55,660 --> 03:56:56,270
>> Yes.

6393
03:56:56,270 --> 03:56:56,528
Thank you.

6394
03:56:56,528 --> 03:56:58,528
Council PRESIDENT.

6395
03:56:59,898 --> 03:57:00,498
Today in a special housing

6396
03:57:00,498 --> 03:57:01,199
authority closed session

6397
03:57:01,199 --> 03:57:01,800
meeting, the housing authority

6398
03:57:01,800 --> 03:57:04,200
voted on special housing

6399
03:57:05,437 --> 03:57:06,400
authority closed session item

6400
03:57:06,400 --> 03:57:06,705
number one to initiate

6401
03:57:06,705 --> 03:57:09,105
litigation Once litigation is

6402
03:57:11,742 --> 03:57:12,344
formally commenced, the action

6403
03:57:12,344 --> 03:57:13,450
the defendants and other

6404
03:57:13,450 --> 03:57:13,678
particulars will be disclosed

6405
03:57:13,678 --> 03:57:16,678
to any person upon inquiry

6406
03:57:17,816 --> 03:57:18,550
unless to do so would

6407
03:57:18,550 --> 03:57:19,117
jeopardize effective service of

6408
03:57:19,117 --> 03:57:19,551
process or settlement

6409
03:57:19,551 --> 03:57:21,551
negotiations.

6410
03:57:25,357 --> 03:57:25,657
The motion passed unanimously 9

6411
03:57:25,657 --> 03:57:26,391
to 0.

6412
03:57:26,391 --> 03:57:26,758
>> That concludes my comments.

6413
03:57:26,758 --> 03:57:27,125
All right.

6414
03:57:27,125 --> 03:57:27,726
Thank you.

6415
03:57:27,726 --> 03:57:28,193
We will now adjourn this

6416
03:57:28,193 --> 03:57:29,728
housing for you.

6417
03:57:29,728 --> 03:57:30,395
Reconvene the city council.

6418
03:57:30,395 --> 03:57:33,395
We have one adjournment in

6419
03:57:35,934 --> 03:57:36,668
memory which I will be sending

6420
03:57:36,668 --> 03:57:37,369
the last a great journalist and

6421
03:57:37,369 --> 03:57:40,969
a great human being This month

6422
03:57:42,400 --> 03:57:42,341
with the passing of Kelly

6423
03:57:42,341 --> 03:57:43,410
Davis.

6424
03:57:43,410 --> 03:57:43,775
We honor Kelly with this

6425
03:57:43,775 --> 03:57:46,775
adjournment of memory which has

6426
03:57:47,980 --> 03:57:48,647
taken a lot from Jeff McDonald

6427
03:57:48,647 --> 03:57:49,214
peace to do her justice.

6428
03:57:49,214 --> 03:57:51,614
Kelly was dedicated to

6429
03:57:53,218 --> 03:57:53,952
journalism a passion that

6430
03:57:53,952 --> 03:57:54,686
persisted over decades and drew

6431
03:57:54,686 --> 03:57:58,886
both the ire and the respect of

6432
03:57:59,124 --> 03:57:59,758
elected officials across

6433
03:57:59,758 --> 03:58:00,292
the region and the state.

6434
03:58:00,292 --> 03:58:00,992
Her work appeared in

6435
03:58:00,992 --> 03:58:03,992
the Union-Tribune the voice of

6436
03:58:05,697 --> 03:58:06,398
San Diego and the now shuttered

6437
03:58:06,398 --> 03:58:06,971
San Diego City Beat which she

6438
03:58:06,971 --> 03:58:08,971
co-founded and edited.

6439
03:58:11,670 --> 03:58:12,306
Kelly was named Journalist of

6440
03:58:12,306 --> 03:58:12,938
the Year by the San Diego

6441
03:58:12,938 --> 03:58:15,706
chapter of the Society of

6442
03:58:15,706 --> 03:58:16,408
Professional Journalists in

6443
03:58:16,408 --> 03:58:17,141
2023 recognizing her watchdog

6444
03:58:17,141 --> 03:58:20,141
reporting on the high mortality

6445
03:58:22,747 --> 03:58:23,128
rates in the county sheriff

6446
03:58:23,128 --> 03:58:23,682
jails.

6447
03:58:23,682 --> 03:58:24,349
Perhaps more telling as to

6448
03:58:24,349 --> 03:58:27,349
the importance of her work.

6449
03:58:28,200 --> 03:58:28,721
More than a dozen family

6450
03:58:28,721 --> 03:58:29,454
members of people who had died

6451
03:58:29,454 --> 03:58:32,454
in custody attended that awards

6452
03:58:34,660 --> 03:58:35,394
ceremony celebrated her work.

6453
03:58:35,394 --> 03:58:36,950
They thanked her tearfully,

6454
03:58:36,950 --> 03:58:39,950
explained how her articles had

6455
03:58:40,265 --> 03:58:40,966
given them a voice and brought

6456
03:58:40,966 --> 03:58:41,600
light to their suffering when

6457
03:58:41,600 --> 03:58:44,600
they thought no one cared.

6458
03:58:46,238 --> 03:58:46,904
Kelly's report spurred state

6459
03:58:46,904 --> 03:58:47,606
audits and prompted Governor

6460
03:58:47,606 --> 03:58:48,400
Gavin Newsom to sign a pair of

6461
03:58:48,400 --> 03:58:50,400
reform bills.

6462
03:58:52,543 --> 03:58:53,245
Kelly was known for her policy

6463
03:58:53,245 --> 03:58:53,979
chops and a deep understanding

6464
03:58:53,979 --> 03:58:56,379
of complicated subjects gleaned

6465
03:58:58,150 --> 03:58:58,851
from her arcane research.

6466
03:58:58,851 --> 03:58:59,518
She studied government policy

6467
03:58:59,518 --> 03:59:02,518
manuals and took classes to

6468
03:59:04,623 --> 03:59:05,324
broaden her knowledge so she

6469
03:59:05,324 --> 03:59:05,824
could write with authority her

6470
03:59:05,824 --> 03:59:07,824
strongest assets.

6471
03:59:10,596 --> 03:59:11,329
There were so many but her

6472
03:59:11,329 --> 03:59:11,964
instincts, her judgment of what

6473
03:59:11,964 --> 03:59:14,964
the public needed to know.

6474
03:59:16,101 --> 03:59:16,768
Her interviewing techniques and

6475
03:59:16,768 --> 03:59:17,502
her shoe leather reporting.

6476
03:59:17,502 --> 03:59:21,102
Kelly loved cats and left three

6477
03:59:22,741 --> 03:59:23,141
at her Fletcher Homes Fletcher

6478
03:59:23,141 --> 03:59:23,709
Hill's home.

6479
03:59:23,709 --> 03:59:24,410
She was known for her

6480
03:59:24,410 --> 03:59:26,810
thoughtful gift giving often

6481
03:59:28,848 --> 03:59:29,381
finding just the right gift for

6482
03:59:29,381 --> 03:59:30,820
friends and family.

6483
03:59:30,820 --> 03:59:33,682
She was famous for the Harvey

6484
03:59:34,530 --> 03:59:34,720
Wall being her kick.

6485
03:59:34,720 --> 03:59:35,870
She made for friends every

6486
03:59:35,870 --> 03:59:35,821
Christmas.

6487
03:59:35,821 --> 03:59:38,821
She played rhythm guitar and

6488
03:59:39,692 --> 03:59:40,459
sang backing vocals for an

6489
03:59:40,459 --> 03:59:42,859
indie band called Super 31

6490
03:59:44,163 --> 03:59:44,830
through much of the 90s

6491
03:59:44,830 --> 03:59:46,830
recording multiple extended

6492
03:59:49,268 --> 03:59:49,969
play records in its heyday

6493
03:59:49,969 --> 03:59:50,603
Super 31 with a staple of

6494
03:59:50,603 --> 03:59:51,302
the underground scene and

6495
03:59:51,302 --> 03:59:54,302
shared stages with bands like

6496
03:59:56,175 --> 03:59:56,909
Radiohead and Belly.

6497
03:59:56,909 --> 03:59:59,909
She earned a bachelor's degree

6498
04:00:01,280 --> 04:00:02,140
in literature from Chapman

6499
04:00:02,140 --> 04:00:02,681
University and later a master's

6500
04:00:02,681 --> 04:00:05,810
degree from Boston College.

6501
04:00:07,653 --> 04:00:08,287
Kelly Lynn Davis was born on St

6502
04:00:08,287 --> 04:00:10,687
Patrick's Day in 1973 and

6503
04:00:12,858 --> 04:00:13,726
raised in Irvine.

6504
04:00:13,726 --> 04:00:14,193
She is survived by her husband

6505
04:00:14,193 --> 04:00:14,626
Brian Espinosa.

6506
04:00:14,626 --> 04:00:16,626
Her father j.

6507
04:00:18,331 --> 04:00:19,310
Emerson Davis.

6508
04:00:19,310 --> 04:00:19,365
And numerous aunts, uncles and

6509
04:00:19,365 --> 04:00:21,365
cousins.

6510
04:00:25,238 --> 04:00:25,972
Kelly courageously beat back

6511
04:00:25,972 --> 04:00:26,705
cancer for nearly a dozen years

6512
04:00:26,705 --> 04:00:27,106
while producing policy changing

6513
04:00:27,106 --> 04:00:29,106
dispatches.

6514
04:00:31,677 --> 04:00:32,144
A tumor reappeared this spring

6515
04:00:32,144 --> 04:00:32,544
taking her life.

6516
04:00:32,544 --> 04:00:34,544
Kelly Davis.

6517
04:00:37,182 --> 04:00:38,500
Rest in peace.

6518
04:00:38,500 --> 04:00:41,254
If we could take a moment to

6519
04:00:41,254 --> 04:00:44,854
honor Kelly and her passing and

6520
04:00:59,772 --> 04:01:00,506
the work she did thank you for

6521
04:01:00,506 --> 04:01:04,106
that moment And now we'll close

6522
04:01:04,444 --> 04:01:05,178
We will now adjourn Council to

6523
04:01:05,178 --> 04:01:07,578
the regularly scheduled council

6524
04:01:08,715 --> 04:01:11,715
meeting on Tuesday, JULY 14th,