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Good morning I will now call

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the City council meeting of

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Monday JUNE 16th 2025 to order

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Deputy Clerk please call

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the Roll Councilmember

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Campbell.

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Council Member Whitburn here.

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Council Member Foster here.

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Council Member Von will present

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Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

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Council Member Can you hear

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Council Member Moreno Present

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Council Member Ella Rivera in

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Council PRESIDENT LaCava

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present.

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>> Also attending the meeting

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are City Attorney Heather

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Ferber.

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Independent Budget analyst

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Charles Monica and myself your

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deputy city Clerk Jennifer

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Berry.

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All right, thank you.

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A quorum is now present.

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We will begin this morning with

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an invocation by Deputy clerk

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Barry followed with the land

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acknowledgment and the Pledge

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of Allegiance led by council

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member Whitburn Grant.

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Those who hold office in this

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city the spirit of wisdom,

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charity and justice that was

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steadfast purpose.

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They MAY faithfully serve in

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their offices or to promote

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the well-being of all people.

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>> We respectfully acknowledge

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that the committee should are

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the original inhabitants of

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the Unceded land now known as

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San Diego.

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Despite enduring the horrors of

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genocide and colonization,

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the Kumi spirit remains

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unbroken.

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We are the resilience of their

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ancestors who fought to protect

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their culture and land Today

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they carry their legacy forward

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ensuring that their traditions

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continue to thrive and

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gratitude and strength We stand

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with a combination connected to

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our past and committed to a

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thriving future.

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Please place the flag Place

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your hand over your heart Ready

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Begin.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the United States of America

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and to the Republic for which

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it stands One nation under GOD

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,indivisible with liberty and

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justice for all.

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Deputy Clerk Please go over how

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the public can offer their

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public testimony.

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>> I will now highlight

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the slide on the screen that

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reviews how the public can

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offer their public testimony

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during today's meeting.

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If you are in person please

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complete a speaker slip located

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at the entrance of chambers and

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bring it up to the front of

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the room.

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No further in-person testimony

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will be taken once the council

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begins Virtual testimony for

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better meeting management

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purposes each speaker will have

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>> Deputy Clerk Please read

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the closed session items into

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the record.

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Conference with legal Counsel

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Existing Litigation pursuant to

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California Government Code

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Section 5495 6.90 161 Susan

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Baker versus City of San Diego

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See us to Kate Mara versity of

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San Diego.

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Conference with Legal Counsel

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Existing litigation pursuant to

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California Government Code

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Section 5495 6.90 163 Cameron

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Adams at all the City of San

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Diego at all Eric Bana at all

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or City of San Diego at all.

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Louis Guerrero versus City of

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San Diego at all lawn rose

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the third versity of San Diego

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at all c for City of San Diego

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b 101 Ash llc at all conference

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with real property negotiator

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pursuant to California

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54956.865 Property one on one

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Ash Street San Diego,

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California.

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The Council will meet with its

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negotiator, discuss the price

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and payment terms for

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the potential disposition of an

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interest or estate and real

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property located at 101 Ash

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Street, San Diego, California.

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Conference with Legal Counsel

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Existing Litigation pursuant to

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Section 5495 6.91 ca6 Marcus

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at all.

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Conference with Legal counsel

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Significant exposure to

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litigation pursuant to

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cases Multiple.

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Thank you Deputy Clerk Please

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proceed with public comment.

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>> We have no public comment in

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chambers today so I'm going to

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go ahead and start our five

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minute timer and go into our

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virtual queue our we have one

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hand up the original if you

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will.

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Go ahead and unmute and let me

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know which item or items you

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would like to speak to.

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>> I all of them Okay you will

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>> Please proceed.

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All right so you guys and these

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trip and falls I mean it's like

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there's no end in sight for you

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know continued litigation due

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to the conditions of

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the sidewalks and roads that

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are in the city.

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They're not, you know, getting

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any better as we proceed.

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And so it's just kind of

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ridiculous that this is

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something that happens and

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there's it's going to continue

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And then as far as litigation

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goes for this one on our street

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property, this is like a

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succubus as well.

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>> I mean I don't know how long

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you guys want to stay in

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litigation about this and then

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you're trying to also sell it

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or get rid of it.

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>> But this is, you know, just

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proof in the way that you guys

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work and how you know, this is

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supposed to be something for

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the homeless And all it's been

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as a blood money you know pit

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for the entire time that it's

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you know been here Scott

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asbestos in it I mean those are

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things that should have been

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done before you even dealt with

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it but that's not the way you

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guys work.

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You love to, you know,

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basically work backwards and

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it's ridiculous because it

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costs the people money.

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The money doesn't come from you

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guys.

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It comes from people who work

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really hard who you continue to

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tax and you know, raise fees

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and all of the things and

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pretty much put people out so

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that we can make up for your

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mistakes.

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And that's why with these

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multiple cases that are coming

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forward I mean that could be a

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number of things But you know,

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you've already had cases

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litigation come forward from

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employees at Tent City because

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of the conditions that they've

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been asked to work in

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the treatment that they get

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from Dreams for Change And

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you're paying settlements out

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to these employees.

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But there's going to be more

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and more suits that are coming

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forward, especially class

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action.

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And Stephen Whitburn, you

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should actually resign as soon

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as possible because you're

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actually giving your friends

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contracts.

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Theresa Smith is a friend of

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yours.

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You're contracting with her

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with Dreams for Change refusing

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to actually mitigate not only

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the deaths, the sexual

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assaults, the breach of

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contract many things but you're

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unwilling to do that because

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that's your friend.

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So you sit and you laugh when

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people are dying and city like

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Tammy Jackson last week a week

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ago today and you know you're

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you're refusing to actually go

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and you actually want to extend

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their contracts you want to

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give them more money which is

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going to be happening here

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pretty soon.

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But you are facing litigation

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because of the fact that you

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refuse to do anything not only

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Steven but the city.

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And so you're going to have to

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be paying more money out to a

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whole lot of homeless people

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because of the actions that you

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refuse to take.

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So good on you guys for you

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know, just costing the city

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more money instead of actually

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doing something in your time.

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Thank you for that concluding

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comment.

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Our next caller is caller

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ending in 8700.

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If you'll go ahead and unmute

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and let me know which item or

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items you were speaking to.

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A deputy city clerk Mary Joyce

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in your district three I'll be

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speaking on one, three, four,

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five and six please.

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>> You will have three minutes.

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>> Thank you so much and see us

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for one another trip and I'll

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say this to the people that are

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listening that love to walk and

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I'm talking about downtown.

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If you love downtown you have

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to love safety And for me that

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safety downtown is so safety be

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ever vigilant in walking on

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sidewalks history is this this

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exposure to street and of

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course three four and five are

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all related to ash Street So

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I'll combine and also speak a

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little bit specific.

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So I'm looking at the beginning

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of this whole debacle and

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thinking about the contract

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with the people that we're

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going to do the work in

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the building and deal with

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the delicate notes as best as

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and I don't know what

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the contract said and I don't

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know if the bids came from

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really good reputable people.

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I didn't have a chance to look

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at who was the original person

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that got the bid and did

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the work but I hope we were on

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top of things and really had a

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strict contract in regards to

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dealing with the asbestos in

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the building.

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So that concerns me as to where

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we dropped the ball if

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anywhere.

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But of course I'm for the these

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incidents the contractors if

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there was a negligent in

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disrupting of the scuse me on

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the patio side of the street so

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to the people with that

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exposure to the asbestos you

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know it's breathing it's long

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you know air is really

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the first thing of life.

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So sending a healing energy out

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to them and you sell a street

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sell 101 please.

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We need to get out from under

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it, please.

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MR. Cushman Stephen Cushman

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from the Board of Commissioners

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at County San Diego Housing

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Commission.

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You're so great at all this

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stuff.

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Please help them sell this

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building if you can get

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involved.

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And then the last one csx, spv,

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I love you so much.

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Your work is unbelievable

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difficult and you have to make

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less in a split second

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Decisions Who can Any human

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being on the planet always make

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the perfect decision in a in

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less than a split second place

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And so I just send you all

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the kind of value in

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appreciation.

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It's excessive force domestic

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violence issue involving a gun.

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I mean it doesn't seem like it

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could happen in real life.

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So thank you for everything you

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do and thanks for listening

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everybody.

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Love to have a beautiful day.

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Thank you.

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And we have no more callers in

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our virtual queue So that

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concludes the public comment on

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the closed session agenda.

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All right.

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To get started And long

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afternoon.

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So with that Good afternoon.

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All right.

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Good afternoon.

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I will now reconvene the city

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council meeting of Monday, JUNE

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16th, 2025.

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Clerk Please call the roll and

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get the statement for DR.

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Campbell who's participating

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remotely.

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Thank you.

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Council PRESIDENT Council

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member Campbell Yes, ma'am.

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>> I'm here and I would like to

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read the statement if you can

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hear me.

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>> Yes.

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And hear you Please proceed.

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I will be attending the meeting

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today remotely pursuant to

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the Brown Act.

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>> I am disclosing that there

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are two individuals 18 years or

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older present in the room with

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me.

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They are members of my staff.

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I will update this disclosure

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if it changes during the course

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of the meeting.

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>> Thank you.

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Thank Member Campbell Council

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Member Whitburn here Council

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Member Foster your Council

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Member Von Wilbur Present

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Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

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Council Member Can you hear

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Council Member Moreno Present

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Council Member Yellow Rivera

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and Council PRESIDENT LaCava

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present also chairing

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the meeting or Assistant City

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Attorney Michelle Garland

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Independent Budget Analyst

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Charles Mollica Counsel Affairs

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Advisor in the Mayor's office

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Kota Sizer and myself your city

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clerk Diana Fuentes.

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Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

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right.

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>> Thank you City Clerk a

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quorum is now present.

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A lot of you have been here

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before but I suspect there are

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some new folks here for

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the very first time Make sure

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this meeting runs smoothly if

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you can given the high emotions

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and controversies that we've

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all been expecting and waiting

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for for this meeting, I want to

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remind everyone about

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the city's practices and

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procedures for public comment

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at city council meetings

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the city welcomes public

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participation at city council

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meetings.

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Speakers MAY address

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the Council during public

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comment and also in connection

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with a specific item of

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business on the agenda.

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However, the city must make

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sure that no one person or

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group of individuals disrupt

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the meeting in a way that

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prohibits other speakers from

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expressing their ideas and

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opinions.

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So to make sure that everyone

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here has the opportunity to

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address the Council Iowa alert

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an individual or individuals if

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I think their conduct becomes

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disruptive If the disruption

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continues I will roll

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the individual out of order And

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if the disruption continues

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further I will declare a recess

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so we can restore order.

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At that point I will direct

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the individual to leave

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the chambers.

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If the individual refuses to

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leave police will escort

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the individual out of

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the building.

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We have to repeat this process

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of warning and recess in

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the meeting all members of

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the public will be excused from

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chambers.

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Credentialed media would be

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allowed to remain once again We

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have these practices and

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procedures to protect

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the rights of others who wish

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to address the Council and to

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allow the Council to conduct

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the public's business so not so

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much on the first item but on

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the next item that most of you

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if not all of you are here for.

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You're going to hear things you

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like.

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You're going to hear things you

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don't like or don't don't agree

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with the most effective way to

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communicate to us here at

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the council without disrupting

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the meeting is if you see or

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hear something you like thumbs

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up, wave your hands.

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It's a very powerful signal.

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We see it very obvious If you

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hear something you don't like

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thumbs down is probably

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the easiest way to communicate

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that with us and that way we'll

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be able to run the meeting

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especially when we start with

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the public comment portion.

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So a couple of things that we

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need to do before we get on to

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the 18th conversation.

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First, are there any mayoral

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council, city attorney,

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independent budget analysts or

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a city clerk comment Council

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member Von Wolford And thank

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you very much.

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Council PRESIDENT I wanted to

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take a moment before we started

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today to remember two people

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who were one was shot and

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killed over the weekend.

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Another lawmaker and his wife

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are recovering from multiple

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gunshot wounds in the hospital.

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Still Representative Melissa

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Hortman is seen here at her

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swearing in ceremony as House

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speaker in the Minnesota state

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Capitol And safe home as a

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soldier in 2019.

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And on the right is Senator

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John Hoffman who was first

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elected to the Senate in

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NOVEMBER 2012.

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He's now serving his fourth

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term in the Minnesota State

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Senate representing residents

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of Minnesota Senate District

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four which includes Brooklyn

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Park, Rapids, Dayton and

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Rogers.

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He had been a long time

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advocate and leader on issues

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related to disability services

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in need of children before

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holding elected office he

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worked with children families

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and was a parent in training

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for information centers at

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Pacer, one of the nation's

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oldest and respected training

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centers.

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MS. Hoffman was only 55 at

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the time of her assassination

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over the weekend by a

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politically motivated attack at

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her home, a gunman showed up

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wearing what looked like a

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police officer's uniform in a

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police car which induced her to

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open the home before he shot

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and killed her and her husband

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.

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She represented the northern

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part of the Twin Cities

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metropolitan area in

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the Minnesota House of

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Representatives from 2005 until

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her assassination just over

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the weekend.

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Can you go back to the last

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slide please?

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She serves she campaigned door

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to door often less I know

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the previous one.

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The picture.

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Yeah.

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Every single one of us up here

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on this dais has been in that

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photo.

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All of us have done that And

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it's very scary to think that

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just because we want to be

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involved in public office we

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are subjecting ourselves to

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danger.

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She's not the only one And we

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just I didn't want to let this

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moment pass because we have to

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stop violence in our country no

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matter what we agree on don't

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agree on We need to stop

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violence.

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We are a peaceful democracy and

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we need to lean in to being a

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peaceful democracy.

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And so I'm very, very sad to

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see these two folks one we're

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going to lose forever and

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the other one hopefully won't.

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Luckily person who did this was

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apprehended.

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He had a list of over 40 other

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elected officials He was going

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to attack that day.

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So thank you all for being here

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for being part of your

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democracy today.

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And if we could take just a

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moment to remember Speaker

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Hartman now Thank you, Council

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PRESIDENT.

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That concludes my comments.

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>> Thank you.

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Council Member Von Wolpert With

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that City Clerk Please go over

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how the public can offer their

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public testimony.

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>> Thank you.

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Council PRESIDENT I'd like to

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highlight a screen that was up

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previously and we'll put it

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back up again.

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That does go over how

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the public can offer their

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public testimony during this

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afternoon's meeting and what

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numbers they can call in which

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is found on the agenda cover

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page.

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The order can also be found on

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the agenda Summary found online

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or at the table in the back of

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the room.

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If you are in person please

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complete a speaker slip located

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at the entrance of chambers and

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bring it to the front of

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the room and place it in

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the clear box.

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Council ambassadors are

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available near the entrance of

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chambers and can assist with

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questions and speaker slips

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Again if you are submitting

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speakers up to today and your

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seating time to somebody please

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be sure that you submit

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The speaker slips all together

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in one group.

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No further in-person testimony

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will be taken once the council

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begins Virtual testimony.

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Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

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All right.

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Thank you.

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City Clerk With that we have

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two items to take care of

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before we go to the ada.

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So please introduce items 200

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and 201 Item 200 is a fiscal

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year 2026 Maintenance

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Assessment District Annual

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reports for Parks and

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Recreation Department and item

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2a1 is the fiscal year 2026

649
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Main Assessment District annual

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reports for the Economic

651
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Development Department.

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If you'd like to speak on this

653
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item now's the time to submit

654
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your speaker's slip or to raise

655
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your hand by pressing Star nine

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or the raise your hand icon.

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Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

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Thank you City Clerk for these

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two items.

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The staff presentations will be

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taken together public testimony

662
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and council comments will also

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be taken together for both

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items and the Council will vote

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on each item separately.

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So with that staff please

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introduce yourselves for

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the record and let us know how

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much time you need.

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Thank you Council PRESIDENT

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Good afternoon Council members

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Thank you for your time today.

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My name is Michael Jones,

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Assistant Deputy Director with

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the Parks and Recreation

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Department.

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With me is Rhea again Aldo with

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the Economic Development

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Department Small Business

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Engagement specialist.

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We will require approximately

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seven minutes for our

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presentation today.

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All right.

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When you're ready.

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>> a maintenance assessment

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district or med is a legal

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mechanism to allow property

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owners the ability to

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self-assess for

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the implementation of

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improvements and activities

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within a defined boundary based

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upon a predetermined

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methodology.

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These districts occur

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throughout the city and take on

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many different scopes of

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service.

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Landscaping is the most common

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type of improvement across

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the program here in San Diego

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and generally occurring in

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medians, parks and rights of

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way.

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However, there are many various

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services that can take place

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within districts.

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Several which are shown here

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Methods operate with the legal

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authority to engage in

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improvements and activities

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under the guidance of

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legislation at both the state

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and local levels.

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State law, the Municipal Code

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and City Council policy are

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each written to allow districts

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flexibility to operate in a

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wide variety of ways.

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As previously indicated, a

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primary goal of these policies

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is to give communities

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the ability to offer virtually

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any type of feasible

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improvement or activity above

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the city standard via

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the assessment mechanism.

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And next I'd like to introduce

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my colleague Rhea DiNardo to

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cover the next section.

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>> Rhea.

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Thank you Mike.

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Good afternoon Council members.

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The city of San Diego currently

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has 64 mats down one from 65

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and fiscal year 2024 after

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the formation of the Greater

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Hillcrest method which replaced

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two smaller districts.

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54 miles receive oversight from

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the Parks and Recreation

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Department while ten receive

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oversight from the Economic

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Development Department.

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MADtv exist in every council

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district from the border to

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the northernmost parts of

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the city providing special

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benefits over and above city

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baseline services.

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>> This slide shows

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the geographic boundaries in

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yellow shading for parks and

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recreation methods and economic

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development methods in blue.

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While parks and recreation

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methods are primarily located

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in residential neighborhoods,

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economic development methods

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are concentrated in commercial

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areas and offer a variety of

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related improvements in

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activities such as retail

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retention and recruitment,

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marketing and district branding

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through seasonal banners.

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The city holds various types of

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contracts to administer mad

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improvements and activities for

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parks and Recreation.

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Methods are managed by city

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staff through contracts with

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for profit vendors for service

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delivery with the exception of

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bird rock and Savita managed by

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nonprofits.

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Most economic development

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methods are managed by

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nonprofits with service

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delivery provided directly by

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staff or through subcontracted

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vendors.

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Two exceptions Barrio Logan and

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Central Commercial are managed

786
00:21:56,270 --> 00:21:56,661
by city staff in coordination

787
00:21:56,661 --> 00:21:59,610
with assessment payers and

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community leaders.

789
00:22:00,498 --> 00:22:01,165
Seven of the ten economic

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development Mad managers are

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local business associations

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that also manage a business

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improvement district.

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This allows for coordination of

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resources and opportunities to

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leverage method assessments for

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grants and private fundraising

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to bring additional services to

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their communities.

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>> We're proud to showcase

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photos on this slide of

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the visible impact of mouths

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across the city.

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As you can see through a wide

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variety of services such as

806
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sidewalk cleaning, graffiti

807
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removal, beautification and

808
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landscape maintenance mad's

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create cleaner and more

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welcoming public spaces.

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Now I'll turn it back over to

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Michael.

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>> Each district is formed with

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an accompanying assessment

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engineer's report.

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This is effectively

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the governing document that

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specifies which improvements

819
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can occur and at what

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frequencies.

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This report is created upon

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information of the district and

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its implemented upon a

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successful vote of affected

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property owners.

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The difference between general

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and special benefit is an

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important point of distinction.

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Ads MAY only fund those

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services which are above city

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standard.

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The engineers report is updated

833
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,841
annually to include new parcel

834
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data.

835
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>> Changes in land use and an

836
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updated budget for each

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district.

838
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It is important to note that

839
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assessments MAY increase or

840
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decrease or remain the same

841
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based upon the needs of

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00:23:27,752 --> 00:23:28,219
the district and fiscal

843
00:23:28,219 --> 00:23:30,219
considerations.

844
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Some elements of the report

845
00:23:32,523 --> 00:23:33,157
codified upon information such

846
00:23:33,157 --> 00:23:35,157
as boundaries assessment,

847
00:23:36,994 --> 00:23:37,695
methodology, location and

848
00:23:37,695 --> 00:23:38,263
frequency of such service MAY

849
00:23:38,263 --> 00:23:38,797
not be updated through

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00:23:38,797 --> 00:23:40,797
the annual process.

851
00:23:41,433 --> 00:23:42,000
These changes in assessment

852
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:42,567
levies are shared with

853
00:23:42,567 --> 00:23:44,567
the community members,

854
00:23:46,204 --> 00:23:46,871
stakeholders or others who MAY

855
00:23:46,871 --> 00:23:47,605
serve on advisory committees

856
00:23:47,605 --> 00:23:50,605
associated with one or multiple

857
00:23:51,175 --> 00:23:51,943
districts.

858
00:23:51,943 --> 00:23:54,343
The proposed actions before

859
00:23:55,346 --> 00:23:55,947
the Council today for item 200

860
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include the approval of

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the fiscal year 2026 annual

862
00:23:58,650 --> 00:23:59,317
reports.

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00:23:59,317 --> 00:24:01,717
In addition, the Department

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00:24:03,288 --> 00:24:03,955
seeks authorization to allow

865
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the cfo to expend funds and

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00:24:04,589 --> 00:24:06,989
collect revenues that will

867
00:24:08,259 --> 00:24:08,927
sustain the operations of all

868
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54 districts under Parks and

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00:24:09,494 --> 00:24:11,494
Recreation oversight.

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Additionally, the Council will

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00:24:14,198 --> 00:24:14,833
allow would allow the cfo via

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the department to execute

873
00:24:18,569 --> 00:24:19,237
the manual billing of property

874
00:24:19,237 --> 00:24:22,573
owners who do not receive a

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00:24:22,573 --> 00:24:24,573
property tax bill.

876
00:24:27,912 --> 00:24:28,446
The proposed actions for item

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201 for the Economic

878
00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:32,417
Development Department approve

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00:24:32,417 --> 00:24:32,750
the fiscal year 2026 annual

880
00:24:32,750 --> 00:24:33,285
reports.

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00:24:33,285 --> 00:24:35,685
Authorize the cfo to

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00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:37,689
appropriate and expend mad

883
00:24:37,689 --> 00:24:38,389
funds and manually bill

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00:24:38,389 --> 00:24:41,389
property owners not billed by

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00:24:41,860 --> 00:24:42,560
the county.

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00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,127
An additional action this year

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00:24:43,127 --> 00:24:45,527
is number four approve

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00:24:46,831 --> 00:24:47,532
the waiver of mad council

889
00:24:47,532 --> 00:24:48,265
policy to allow Little Italy

890
00:24:48,265 --> 00:24:51,265
mad's operating reserve to fall

891
00:24:52,170 --> 00:24:52,838
below the required 10% of

892
00:24:52,838 --> 00:24:53,471
operating expenditures with

893
00:24:53,471 --> 00:24:57,710
the plan to bring it into

894
00:24:57,141 --> 00:24:57,742
compliance with Council policy

895
00:24:57,742 --> 00:24:59,742
in fiscal year 2027.

896
00:25:02,447 --> 00:25:03,147
The proposed actions ensure our

897
00:25:03,147 --> 00:25:05,547
Department's ability to submit

898
00:25:07,485 --> 00:25:08,220
the assessments to the county

899
00:25:08,220 --> 00:25:08,953
by the AUGUST 10th deadline for

900
00:25:08,953 --> 00:25:11,323
inclusion on the on the owner's

901
00:25:11,323 --> 00:25:12,900
property tax bill.

902
00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:15,690
All of this ensures a seamless

903
00:25:16,327 --> 00:25:17,128
continuity of service.

904
00:25:17,128 --> 00:25:17,796
For more information, members

905
00:25:17,796 --> 00:25:18,363
of the public can visit each

906
00:25:18,363 --> 00:25:20,363
department's web page.

907
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:21,665
Also available online is an

908
00:25:21,665 --> 00:25:22,400
interactive map outlining

909
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,800
district boundaries and general

910
00:25:25,603 --> 00:25:26,370
service areas.

911
00:25:26,370 --> 00:25:27,380
These are all useful resources

912
00:25:27,380 --> 00:25:27,772
for learning more about our

913
00:25:27,772 --> 00:25:29,772
Maintenance Assessment District

914
00:25:33,779 --> 00:25:34,379
program here in San Diego.

915
00:25:34,379 --> 00:25:35,790
>> This concludes our

916
00:25:35,790 --> 00:25:38,790
presentation and thank you all

917
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:39,317
for your time today.

918
00:25:39,317 --> 00:25:40,510
All right.

919
00:25:40,510 --> 00:25:40,451
Thank you for the presentation.

920
00:25:40,451 --> 00:25:42,451
City Clerk.

921
00:25:45,823 --> 00:25:46,324
Let's turn to public comment.

922
00:25:46,324 --> 00:25:46,992
Thank you.

923
00:25:46,992 --> 00:25:47,692
Council PRESIDENT We will be

924
00:25:47,692 --> 00:25:48,160
taking public comment together

925
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,160
for these items.

926
00:25:51,629 --> 00:25:52,330
So if you can please come

927
00:25:52,330 --> 00:25:52,964
forward to the yellow reserved

928
00:25:52,964 --> 00:25:55,964
seats We have Cesar Javier

929
00:26:00,172 --> 00:26:00,772
Joyce, Senator Andrus ebbing

930
00:26:00,772 --> 00:26:01,440
and then that's it.

931
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:01,873
>> That's the duplicates for

932
00:26:01,873 --> 00:26:03,873
those people.

933
00:26:05,343 --> 00:26:06,211
So Cesar Javier we are giving

934
00:26:06,211 --> 00:26:09,811
one minute for each item you

935
00:26:10,849 --> 00:26:11,148
have time ceded to you for

936
00:26:11,148 --> 00:26:11,850
both.

937
00:26:11,850 --> 00:26:15,450
So you will have four minutes.

938
00:26:15,853 --> 00:26:17,853
Please proceed.

939
00:26:20,491 --> 00:26:21,192
So sir, thank you Once again we

940
00:26:21,192 --> 00:26:24,192
will be facing you discussing

941
00:26:24,796 --> 00:26:27,796
with you our predicaments, our

942
00:26:29,401 --> 00:26:30,268
concern.

943
00:26:30,268 --> 00:26:32,668
The city leadership is

944
00:26:34,505 --> 00:26:36,505
destroying San Diego's

945
00:26:40,780 --> 00:26:40,679
psychologically And what's

946
00:26:40,679 --> 00:26:43,790
the other two Socially,

947
00:26:43,815 --> 00:26:46,215
Economically it's a failure.

948
00:26:48,887 --> 00:26:49,488
I will cite one look at

949
00:26:49,488 --> 00:26:50,188
the organizational chart

950
00:26:50,188 --> 00:26:53,788
morning chart of the Parks and

951
00:26:53,859 --> 00:26:54,625
Recreation.

952
00:26:54,625 --> 00:26:58,225
We have been looking for money

953
00:26:59,263 --> 00:27:02,863
where we could use to sustain

954
00:27:04,436 --> 00:27:07,436
the priority needs of San

955
00:27:07,940 --> 00:27:08,740
Diegans like the library, like

956
00:27:08,740 --> 00:27:11,140
sanitation and hygiene programs

957
00:27:13,744 --> 00:27:14,113
like the health and Human

958
00:27:14,113 --> 00:27:14,780
Services.

959
00:27:14,780 --> 00:27:15,413
>> Cesar could you focus on

960
00:27:15,413 --> 00:27:17,413
the maintenance assessment

961
00:27:20,619 --> 00:27:23,190
district where 200 200 and it

962
00:27:23,622 --> 00:27:24,256
is from the parks and

963
00:27:24,256 --> 00:27:26,592
Recreation Real Estate and

964
00:27:26,592 --> 00:27:29,592
Operation Share Look over four

965
00:27:31,897 --> 00:27:32,664
example We need money for those

966
00:27:32,664 --> 00:27:33,531
I have mentioned which your cut

967
00:27:33,531 --> 00:27:37,131
of money is right there Real

968
00:27:38,690 --> 00:27:41,690
estate public golf course there

969
00:27:41,773 --> 00:27:42,741
are two and we can source money

970
00:27:42,741 --> 00:27:46,941
from there Sell it for the sake

971
00:27:47,790 --> 00:27:47,646
of the sick dying homeless.

972
00:27:47,646 --> 00:27:50,460
That's what I mean.

973
00:27:52,183 --> 00:27:52,951
MR. Local Butcher Money that is

974
00:27:52,951 --> 00:27:55,951
related to what we are

975
00:27:57,289 --> 00:27:59,689
discussing now Maintenance op

976
00:28:01,927 --> 00:28:03,950
does milking cow by golly

977
00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:06,398
Listen hear us I could only say

978
00:28:06,398 --> 00:28:07,166
corruption.

979
00:28:07,166 --> 00:28:07,766
Why do you have to insist

980
00:28:07,766 --> 00:28:09,766
maintaining those those

981
00:28:11,603 --> 00:28:14,603
resource real estate If only

982
00:28:16,341 --> 00:28:17,209
that we could sell it now and

983
00:28:17,209 --> 00:28:20,209
sustain the life health and

984
00:28:26,518 --> 00:28:27,185
services of San Diego's logic

985
00:28:27,185 --> 00:28:27,853
logical reasoning algorithm

986
00:28:27,853 --> 00:28:29,254
What is our top priority in

987
00:28:29,254 --> 00:28:29,655
this Parks and Recreation

988
00:28:29,655 --> 00:28:31,655
Maintenance?

989
00:28:35,930 --> 00:28:38,930
>> Sure Anyone and the answer

990
00:28:39,898 --> 00:28:41,898
Attorney please.

991
00:28:44,236 --> 00:28:47,236
>> We were here listening and

992
00:28:49,141 --> 00:28:49,874
we see the scars of cholera we

993
00:28:49,874 --> 00:28:52,274
call corruption equals monopoly

994
00:28:53,612 --> 00:28:54,790
trust discretion minus

995
00:28:54,790 --> 00:28:54,780
accountability.

996
00:28:54,780 --> 00:28:57,780
They are accountable for this.

997
00:28:58,951 --> 00:28:59,718
Yes, but you can just wash

998
00:28:59,718 --> 00:29:03,221
their hands like you guys share

999
00:29:03,221 --> 00:29:04,560
with Burn.

1000
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,456
>> That is your territory.

1001
00:29:08,794 --> 00:29:09,494
For example Balboa Park What is

1002
00:29:09,494 --> 00:29:11,894
your priority to for

1003
00:29:12,598 --> 00:29:14,598
maintenance ensuring that

1004
00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:18,771
the home of the lowest form of

1005
00:29:18,771 --> 00:29:21,771
animals like lions and tigers

1006
00:29:23,209 --> 00:29:24,176
and these are given priority

1007
00:29:24,176 --> 00:29:27,847
than humans than San Diego Am I

1008
00:29:27,847 --> 00:29:28,346
right?

1009
00:29:28,346 --> 00:29:29,214
Am I wrong?

1010
00:29:29,214 --> 00:29:32,214
That's our observation from a

1011
00:29:33,452 --> 00:29:35,852
regular citizen San Diego's

1012
00:29:36,856 --> 00:29:37,823
Remember sir, this is not just

1013
00:29:37,823 --> 00:29:41,423
a home of San Diegans but

1014
00:29:42,261 --> 00:29:42,794
the brave and brave soldiers

1015
00:29:42,794 --> 00:29:44,794
and their families.

1016
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:50,699
Cheryl Acaba use has a great

1017
00:29:51,837 --> 00:29:52,238
role in this maintenance and

1018
00:29:52,238 --> 00:29:54,238
development.

1019
00:29:56,442 --> 00:29:57,243
>> Tell us where are we

1020
00:29:57,243 --> 00:30:00,243
suitable land for humans, Parks

1021
00:30:02,810 --> 00:30:02,747
and recreation is a respiratory

1022
00:30:02,747 --> 00:30:06,347
system of the city where we

1023
00:30:07,453 --> 00:30:08,120
could breath the clean air when

1024
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,457
we could date the clean food

1025
00:30:11,457 --> 00:30:11,991
water we drink the clean water

1026
00:30:11,991 --> 00:30:12,725
What are we doing?

1027
00:30:12,725 --> 00:30:15,725
>> Is that the maintenance that

1028
00:30:16,329 --> 00:30:17,229
we are trying to project?

1029
00:30:17,229 --> 00:30:20,229
>> No you are just projecting

1030
00:30:21,701 --> 00:30:22,501
to make the milking cow fattier

1031
00:30:22,501 --> 00:30:26,701
and more toss up Your time has

1032
00:30:30,510 --> 00:30:32,910
concluded Joyce Sonata Thank

1033
00:30:35,481 --> 00:30:36,281
you City Clerk Fuentes Joyce

1034
00:30:36,281 --> 00:30:39,881
any other district three I do

1035
00:30:40,820 --> 00:30:41,587
approve both of these and yet I

1036
00:30:41,587 --> 00:30:45,187
just wanted to tell you my

1037
00:30:46,392 --> 00:30:47,920
experience with the methods

1038
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,129
the bids, the p bids I know

1039
00:30:50,129 --> 00:30:53,729
this is mad but they're all

1040
00:30:55,101 --> 00:30:55,735
linked in a lot of ways and I

1041
00:30:55,735 --> 00:30:56,468
heard you say in the press

1042
00:30:56,468 --> 00:30:59,238
thank you for the presentation.

1043
00:30:59,238 --> 00:31:00,500
It's always very good.

1044
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:00,606
I heard you say, you know,

1045
00:31:00,606 --> 00:31:02,606
legal regulations, state

1046
00:31:04,443 --> 00:31:06,443
regulations, local regulations

1047
00:31:09,381 --> 00:31:10,449
And as I put myself into these

1048
00:31:10,449 --> 00:31:14,887
the mad bids and p bids, I find

1049
00:31:14,887 --> 00:31:15,654
that oh and by the way city

1050
00:31:15,654 --> 00:31:18,654
besides all those other bodies

1051
00:31:18,791 --> 00:31:19,325
we've got city involved

1052
00:31:19,325 --> 00:31:21,325
nonprofits involved

1053
00:31:22,528 --> 00:31:24,528
subcontractors involved vendors

1054
00:31:28,368 --> 00:31:31,968
involved in my opinion how do

1055
00:31:32,872 --> 00:31:33,606
we coordinate and collaborate

1056
00:31:33,606 --> 00:31:36,606
this tremendous amount of work?

1057
00:31:38,277 --> 00:31:39,120
I just don't see it.

1058
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,181
It just seems the staff report

1059
00:31:42,181 --> 00:31:42,948
was eight pages with I think

1060
00:31:42,948 --> 00:31:46,548
six attachments or more If you

1061
00:31:47,386 --> 00:31:48,870
conclude the both of them and

1062
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:48,821
because of the debacle we had

1063
00:31:48,821 --> 00:31:51,821
with the promenade downtown and

1064
00:31:53,250 --> 00:31:56,625
that's a bid I started looking

1065
00:31:57,763 --> 00:31:58,464
at this and it's tricky

1066
00:31:58,464 --> 00:32:01,464
The collaboration is is really

1067
00:32:01,934 --> 00:32:02,602
touchy and I'm not sure that

1068
00:32:02,602 --> 00:32:03,236
it's happening at the level

1069
00:32:03,236 --> 00:32:06,539
that we need to make these

1070
00:32:06,539 --> 00:32:07,207
really work effectively with

1071
00:32:07,207 --> 00:32:07,906
monitoring, implementing and

1072
00:32:07,906 --> 00:32:08,307
oversight and transparency and

1073
00:32:08,307 --> 00:32:10,307
all of that.

1074
00:32:12,745 --> 00:32:17,545
So okay so I was going to say

1075
00:32:17,851 --> 00:32:18,518
other things but you know

1076
00:32:18,518 --> 00:32:21,554
Parker and Rick I love you

1077
00:32:21,554 --> 00:32:22,355
Economic development I love you

1078
00:32:22,355 --> 00:32:22,889
54 Mad for the Park and Rec and

1079
00:32:22,889 --> 00:32:25,289
ten for the Economic

1080
00:32:26,726 --> 00:32:27,293
Development Department.

1081
00:32:27,293 --> 00:32:27,826
So it's all good.

1082
00:32:27,826 --> 00:32:30,226
We all need it.

1083
00:32:30,563 --> 00:32:31,363
But I'm just saying that I'm

1084
00:32:31,363 --> 00:32:32,980
getting a little scared at how

1085
00:32:32,980 --> 00:32:35,698
complicated this stuff is and I

1086
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,436
think that's why we're in

1087
00:32:36,436 --> 00:32:37,300
trouble often.

1088
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:37,469
>> Thank you so much.

1089
00:32:37,469 --> 00:32:39,469
Love to all.

1090
00:32:40,973 --> 00:32:41,674
Thank you, Andrea Ebbing you'll

1091
00:32:41,674 --> 00:32:44,978
have two minutes And that is

1092
00:32:44,978 --> 00:32:45,378
our last speaker in person for

1093
00:32:45,378 --> 00:32:45,845
these items.

1094
00:32:45,845 --> 00:32:46,545
Please proceed.

1095
00:32:46,545 --> 00:32:50,160
Hi, my name is Andrea Ebbing

1096
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:50,717
and I wanted to present a

1097
00:32:50,717 --> 00:32:51,484
solution to Parks and Rec,

1098
00:32:51,484 --> 00:32:55,840
the city, the county all my

1099
00:32:55,555 --> 00:32:56,256
districts.

1100
00:32:56,256 --> 00:32:57,570
This is a trim light.

1101
00:32:57,570 --> 00:33:00,570
It's an led lighting solution

1102
00:33:00,826 --> 00:33:01,461
that will promote continuity,

1103
00:33:01,461 --> 00:33:03,461
celebration and security.

1104
00:33:05,665 --> 00:33:06,320
Also cost savings throughout

1105
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:06,766
San Diego.

1106
00:33:06,766 --> 00:33:10,366
This is an aluminum channel a

1107
00:33:10,637 --> 00:33:11,237
patented aluminum channel that

1108
00:33:11,237 --> 00:33:14,237
includes in it our trim

1109
00:33:14,807 --> 00:33:15,508
lighting system In each light

1110
00:33:15,508 --> 00:33:15,909
is three LEDs which are

1111
00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:17,909
directional.

1112
00:33:19,979 --> 00:33:20,613
This product can give us a

1113
00:33:20,613 --> 00:33:21,281
chance to celebrate beyond

1114
00:33:21,281 --> 00:33:23,281
Christmas, celebrate beyond

1115
00:33:25,418 --> 00:33:26,860
pride, Valentine's Day, St

1116
00:33:26,860 --> 00:33:28,486
Patrick's Day Basically any

1117
00:33:30,357 --> 00:33:33,957
occasion at any any time with

1118
00:33:34,127 --> 00:33:34,927
ease it attaches to an app

1119
00:33:34,927 --> 00:33:35,562
which you control and you can

1120
00:33:35,562 --> 00:33:36,196
easily make this security

1121
00:33:36,196 --> 00:33:38,196
lighting system perimeter

1122
00:33:39,699 --> 00:33:40,366
lighting system and instantly

1123
00:33:40,366 --> 00:33:43,366
any building or any district

1124
00:33:43,803 --> 00:33:44,571
can be lit up and I'm talking

1125
00:33:44,571 --> 00:33:48,808
about lit up at the touch of a

1126
00:33:48,808 --> 00:33:49,676
you know your app.

1127
00:33:49,676 --> 00:33:53,276
>> So this is a product that

1128
00:33:53,646 --> 00:33:56,646
could really help the community

1129
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:58,484
build a new holiday theme So

1130
00:33:58,484 --> 00:33:59,850
thank you.

1131
00:33:59,850 --> 00:33:59,820
>> Thank you.

1132
00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:03,420
I'm sorry the five minute timer

1133
00:34:03,723 --> 00:34:04,390
going to those participating

1134
00:34:04,390 --> 00:34:05,250
remotely starting with Blair

1135
00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:05,725
Beckman If you can please

1136
00:34:05,725 --> 00:34:08,528
unmute and please let me know

1137
00:34:08,528 --> 00:34:09,196
if you're speaking to one or

1138
00:34:09,196 --> 00:34:09,529
both of the items Both items

1139
00:34:09,529 --> 00:34:10,197
please.

1140
00:34:10,197 --> 00:34:12,597
>> You'll have two minutes.

1141
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:13,866
Please proceed.

1142
00:34:13,866 --> 00:34:14,267
>> Hi.

1143
00:34:14,267 --> 00:34:15,340
Thank you.

1144
00:34:15,340 --> 00:34:18,340
With that previous item even

1145
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:19,673
more than just holiday time it

1146
00:34:19,673 --> 00:34:23,273
could be good lighting up a

1147
00:34:23,744 --> 00:34:24,344
building You know if there is

1148
00:34:24,344 --> 00:34:25,110
an intruder or somebody

1149
00:34:25,110 --> 00:34:27,781
uncomfortable or it can help

1150
00:34:27,781 --> 00:34:28,315
with that process all

1151
00:34:28,315 --> 00:34:29,150
throughout the year.

1152
00:34:29,150 --> 00:34:32,615
>> So thank you for the item.

1153
00:34:33,186 --> 00:34:33,687
I wanted to thank our city

1154
00:34:33,687 --> 00:34:34,353
government staff.

1155
00:34:34,353 --> 00:34:35,200
It seems really appropriate

1156
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,257
time to again thank them for

1157
00:34:37,257 --> 00:34:37,958
their work of suspending

1158
00:34:37,958 --> 00:34:40,958
certain parts of Memorial Park

1159
00:34:43,130 --> 00:34:43,829
construction at this time And

1160
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:44,531
this surveillance tech is what

1161
00:34:44,531 --> 00:34:47,901
my feeling is that spending of

1162
00:34:47,901 --> 00:34:48,769
this time they want to take a

1163
00:34:48,769 --> 00:34:52,539
bit of a break And with that I

1164
00:34:52,539 --> 00:34:53,273
mean reason good thinking, you

1165
00:34:53,273 --> 00:34:53,974
know, to address this new Trump

1166
00:34:53,974 --> 00:34:56,974
administration at this time We

1167
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:57,477
can work better together.

1168
00:34:57,477 --> 00:34:58,145
I think so.

1169
00:34:58,145 --> 00:34:58,912
Thank you incredibly that I

1170
00:34:58,912 --> 00:35:01,915
hope they're going to I want to

1171
00:35:01,915 --> 00:35:02,616
do that with many projects and

1172
00:35:02,616 --> 00:35:03,583
listen a little bit more to

1173
00:35:03,583 --> 00:35:07,186
community and we can get a good

1174
00:35:07,186 --> 00:35:07,854
dialog going With that all

1175
00:35:07,854 --> 00:35:10,854
said, I'm just learning that

1176
00:35:12,125 --> 00:35:12,692
these are projects that concern

1177
00:35:12,692 --> 00:35:13,600
maintenance assessment

1178
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:13,760
districts.

1179
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,163
It's a new concept to me kind

1180
00:35:16,163 --> 00:35:16,930
of So I'm learning.

1181
00:35:16,930 --> 00:35:19,930
I'm learning how equity plays

1182
00:35:21,368 --> 00:35:21,902
an important role in this

1183
00:35:21,902 --> 00:35:22,636
process how certain

1184
00:35:22,636 --> 00:35:25,360
neighborhoods and districts can

1185
00:35:26,273 --> 00:35:26,973
easily get much more funding

1186
00:35:26,973 --> 00:35:29,973
and money than other districts

1187
00:35:30,810 --> 00:35:31,445
and all the different ins and

1188
00:35:31,445 --> 00:35:31,912
outs that goes with that.

1189
00:35:31,912 --> 00:35:33,912
So good luck.

1190
00:35:36,683 --> 00:35:37,500
How how this issue can be

1191
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:37,784
worked on.

1192
00:35:37,784 --> 00:35:40,521
I'm just learning Joyce Tonight

1193
00:35:40,521 --> 00:35:40,820
I had really good words about

1194
00:35:40,820 --> 00:35:41,621
it.

1195
00:35:41,621 --> 00:35:44,621
It does seem really complicated

1196
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:45,759
and to offer explanations to

1197
00:35:45,759 --> 00:35:46,393
the public on this subject.

1198
00:35:46,393 --> 00:35:47,260
Good luck in that effort.

1199
00:35:47,260 --> 00:35:49,863
I suppose that could have

1200
00:35:49,863 --> 00:35:50,497
something to do with

1201
00:35:50,497 --> 00:35:51,131
the parking districts how

1202
00:35:51,131 --> 00:35:53,531
parking districts can have

1203
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,736
better forms of communication

1204
00:35:55,736 --> 00:35:56,436
with each other in the future.

1205
00:35:56,436 --> 00:35:58,836
City government staff learning

1206
00:36:00,340 --> 00:36:00,974
to facilitate that can be about

1207
00:36:00,974 --> 00:36:01,508
helping with environmental

1208
00:36:01,508 --> 00:36:03,508
concerns within each

1209
00:36:04,945 --> 00:36:05,579
neighborhood developing

1210
00:36:05,579 --> 00:36:07,579
environmental facilitation

1211
00:36:11,180 --> 00:36:11,719
packages and NGOs And you know

1212
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:12,119
for the Harvey year that could

1213
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:14,119
be helpful.

1214
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:16,757
So thank you for this item.

1215
00:36:16,757 --> 00:36:17,124
>> Good luck with your work.

1216
00:36:17,124 --> 00:36:17,858
Thank you.

1217
00:36:17,858 --> 00:36:18,492
Next is the original If you can

1218
00:36:18,492 --> 00:36:21,270
please unmute will you be

1219
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:21,729
speaking on both items?

1220
00:36:21,729 --> 00:36:22,195
What do you think?

1221
00:36:22,195 --> 00:36:24,195
Yes of course.

1222
00:36:24,998 --> 00:36:25,699
Please keep them so 20 $6

1223
00:36:25,699 --> 00:36:29,299
million ish that you guys are

1224
00:36:30,370 --> 00:36:30,437
going to be able to you know,

1225
00:36:30,437 --> 00:36:31,171
racket with.

1226
00:36:31,171 --> 00:36:31,772
It's so interesting to see when

1227
00:36:31,772 --> 00:36:34,772
we you know, talk about

1228
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:35,843
maintenance and things and then

1229
00:36:35,843 --> 00:36:36,443
look at the world around us and

1230
00:36:36,443 --> 00:36:38,843
see what's really being

1231
00:36:39,813 --> 00:36:40,413
accomplished or not just people

1232
00:36:40,413 --> 00:36:41,148
getting richer, which is

1233
00:36:41,148 --> 00:36:41,547
interesting And that's the name

1234
00:36:41,547 --> 00:36:42,115
of the game.

1235
00:36:42,115 --> 00:36:45,486
I mean when we're in a

1236
00:36:45,486 --> 00:36:45,886
corporation is in the point to

1237
00:36:45,886 --> 00:36:46,153
make money.

1238
00:36:46,153 --> 00:36:46,820
Yes.

1239
00:36:46,820 --> 00:36:47,186
And off the backs of people

1240
00:36:47,186 --> 00:36:47,487
suffering.

1241
00:36:47,487 --> 00:36:49,423
Right.

1242
00:36:49,423 --> 00:36:49,923
And you guys are doing a very

1243
00:36:49,923 --> 00:36:50,791
good job of that.

1244
00:36:50,791 --> 00:36:54,391
So what I was wondering since

1245
00:36:54,562 --> 00:36:55,229
Balboa Park is in this district

1246
00:36:55,229 --> 00:36:57,629
in the maintenance district,

1247
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:00,401
you know that spot that's you

1248
00:37:00,401 --> 00:37:01,101
know, kind of like a prison.

1249
00:37:01,101 --> 00:37:01,401
It's like imprisoned people in

1250
00:37:01,401 --> 00:37:03,401
there.

1251
00:37:05,139 --> 00:37:05,774
You guys like to call it Tent

1252
00:37:05,774 --> 00:37:08,774
City and you've, you know,

1253
00:37:09,610 --> 00:37:10,243
contracted with NGOs downtown

1254
00:37:10,243 --> 00:37:10,877
Partnership and Dreams for

1255
00:37:10,877 --> 00:37:13,877
Change And you know, they

1256
00:37:14,948 --> 00:37:15,616
probably are ones that you

1257
00:37:15,616 --> 00:37:16,500
would be spending this money

1258
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:18,500
with as well.

1259
00:37:19,587 --> 00:37:20,287
So when you see that the things

1260
00:37:20,287 --> 00:37:21,210
that they're doing is not

1261
00:37:21,210 --> 00:37:24,621
really up to their contract and

1262
00:37:24,959 --> 00:37:25,659
that people are dying and

1263
00:37:25,659 --> 00:37:26,427
people are being raped Right.

1264
00:37:26,427 --> 00:37:28,963
By the employees, I mean but

1265
00:37:28,963 --> 00:37:29,663
that's okay.

1266
00:37:29,663 --> 00:37:30,364
>> I'm just wondering if

1267
00:37:30,364 --> 00:37:33,867
the maintenance is going to go

1268
00:37:33,867 --> 00:37:34,568
into those areas of the park

1269
00:37:34,568 --> 00:37:35,169
like the code enforcement that

1270
00:37:35,169 --> 00:37:38,169
needs to take place with

1271
00:37:39,273 --> 00:37:39,740
the electrical outlets that are

1272
00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:40,474
right by water.

1273
00:37:40,474 --> 00:37:41,142
So it's a very good little

1274
00:37:41,142 --> 00:37:43,542
cesspool for an electrical

1275
00:37:44,378 --> 00:37:45,312
shock of somebody.

1276
00:37:45,312 --> 00:37:46,460
But I guess if the idea is to

1277
00:37:46,460 --> 00:37:49,216
kill the homeless then you guys

1278
00:37:49,216 --> 00:37:49,949
are doing a good job.

1279
00:37:49,949 --> 00:37:50,484
There's also food poisoning

1280
00:37:50,484 --> 00:37:52,484
that happens there.

1281
00:37:54,154 --> 00:37:54,587
So there's many avenues to kill

1282
00:37:54,587 --> 00:37:55,256
the homeless.

1283
00:37:55,256 --> 00:37:58,256
But I'm just wondering, you

1284
00:37:58,759 --> 00:37:59,460
know, are these the types of

1285
00:37:59,460 --> 00:38:00,194
things that you would want to

1286
00:38:00,194 --> 00:38:00,627
look into or is it because it's

1287
00:38:00,627 --> 00:38:02,627
the homeless?

1288
00:38:03,964 --> 00:38:04,732
It's like when you know there's

1289
00:38:04,732 --> 00:38:05,433
an event we just kind of move

1290
00:38:05,433 --> 00:38:09,300
them down the way and say just

1291
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:09,503
kind of like don't look at it.

1292
00:38:09,503 --> 00:38:10,304
It's an eyesore.

1293
00:38:10,304 --> 00:38:11,500
Are we going to kind of treat

1294
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:13,641
this the same So like they're

1295
00:38:13,641 --> 00:38:14,274
not going to be able to have

1296
00:38:14,274 --> 00:38:15,108
any maintenance in there.

1297
00:38:15,108 --> 00:38:18,212
Oh, but you know, good job,

1298
00:38:18,212 --> 00:38:20,612
Stephen, for laughing and

1299
00:38:22,650 --> 00:38:23,250
mocking Tammy Jackson for dying

1300
00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:24,180
a week ago today.

1301
00:38:24,180 --> 00:38:27,618
You guys are doing really good

1302
00:38:28,823 --> 00:38:29,790
killing people there.

1303
00:38:29,790 --> 00:38:32,526
Rosa Unless Cora if you can

1304
00:38:32,526 --> 00:38:33,126
please unmute will you be

1305
00:38:33,126 --> 00:38:35,526
speaking to both items?

1306
00:38:36,797 --> 00:38:37,398
No to a one to a one.

1307
00:38:37,398 --> 00:38:37,865
You'll have one minute.

1308
00:38:37,865 --> 00:38:39,865
Please proceed.

1309
00:38:41,836 --> 00:38:42,570
Hi my name is Rosanna Squire,

1310
00:38:42,570 --> 00:38:43,304
the Vice PRESIDENT Of Community

1311
00:38:43,304 --> 00:38:43,938
Development and Policy for City

1312
00:38:43,938 --> 00:38:45,938
Heights Clean Development.

1313
00:38:46,540 --> 00:38:47,740
>> I'm here to express strong

1314
00:38:47,740 --> 00:38:47,707
support for item 2a1

1315
00:38:47,707 --> 00:38:49,707
particularly the continued

1316
00:38:50,745 --> 00:38:51,311
investment in the City Heights

1317
00:38:51,311 --> 00:38:51,679
Maintenance Assessment

1318
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:52,413
District.

1319
00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:55,616
The City Heights Matter plays a

1320
00:38:55,616 --> 00:38:56,349
vital role in keeping our

1321
00:38:56,349 --> 00:38:57,510
community corridors clean, safe

1322
00:38:57,510 --> 00:39:00,510
and welcoming especially in a

1323
00:39:00,787 --> 00:39:01,222
historically underserved

1324
00:39:01,222 --> 00:39:01,823
neighborhood.

1325
00:39:01,823 --> 00:39:02,423
Over the past year, City

1326
00:39:02,423 --> 00:39:04,823
Heights cdc has proudly

1327
00:39:05,225 --> 00:39:05,893
overseen the maintenance

1328
00:39:05,893 --> 00:39:06,627
assessment district for City

1329
00:39:06,627 --> 00:39:07,328
Heights, creating opportunities

1330
00:39:07,328 --> 00:39:10,531
for residents to take pride in

1331
00:39:10,531 --> 00:39:11,231
our neighborhood supporting

1332
00:39:11,231 --> 00:39:11,966
local city heights jobs and

1333
00:39:11,966 --> 00:39:15,350
help build a safer, greener and

1334
00:39:15,350 --> 00:39:15,770
more connected public space.

1335
00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:16,470
We urge your continued support

1336
00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:19,470
for this critical resource and

1337
00:39:19,807 --> 00:39:20,507
thank you for the time and

1338
00:39:20,507 --> 00:39:20,942
commitment for our community.

1339
00:39:20,942 --> 00:39:21,309
>> Thank you.

1340
00:39:21,309 --> 00:39:23,309
Thank you.

1341
00:39:23,977 --> 00:39:24,779
And that does conclude public

1342
00:39:24,779 --> 00:39:25,446
comment on items 200 and 2a1

1343
00:39:25,446 --> 00:39:25,880
Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

1344
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,880
>> All right.

1345
00:39:28,883 --> 00:39:29,684
Thank you City Clerk So we're

1346
00:39:29,684 --> 00:39:30,251
going to turn it over to my

1347
00:39:30,251 --> 00:39:30,951
council colleagues for

1348
00:39:30,951 --> 00:39:33,351
questions, comments and we'll

1349
00:39:33,621 --> 00:39:34,321
be needing two motions but

1350
00:39:34,321 --> 00:39:37,321
we'll start out with item 204

1351
00:39:38,910 --> 00:39:38,860
the motion I see Council member

1352
00:39:38,860 --> 00:39:39,460
Campo who is the chair of our

1353
00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:41,460
Economic Development and

1354
00:39:42,697 --> 00:39:43,397
Intergovernmental Governmental

1355
00:39:43,397 --> 00:39:43,664
Relations Committee to kick us

1356
00:39:43,664 --> 00:39:44,264
off.

1357
00:39:44,264 --> 00:39:44,966
Thank thank you Council

1358
00:39:44,966 --> 00:39:47,966
PRESIDENT Thank you staff for

1359
00:39:48,202 --> 00:39:48,869
the presentation and it's

1360
00:39:48,869 --> 00:39:49,570
approved unanimously at our

1361
00:39:49,570 --> 00:39:52,507
idea And your committee has a

1362
00:39:52,507 --> 00:39:53,410
really important role

1363
00:39:53,410 --> 00:39:53,741
throughout our city.

1364
00:39:53,741 --> 00:39:56,741
I'll move approval of staff's

1365
00:39:56,911 --> 00:39:57,512
recommendation for item 200 and

1366
00:39:57,512 --> 00:39:57,946
await your call for 2a1.

1367
00:39:57,946 --> 00:39:58,413
>> All right.

1368
00:39:58,413 --> 00:39:59,470
Thank you, sir.

1369
00:39:59,470 --> 00:40:01,683
So we have a motion.

1370
00:40:01,683 --> 00:40:02,500
We'll go next to council member

1371
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:02,416
Whitburn.

1372
00:40:02,416 --> 00:40:03,117
Thank you.

1373
00:40:03,117 --> 00:40:06,117
Council PRESIDENT What I think

1374
00:40:06,654 --> 00:40:07,355
chair can appeal and you and I

1375
00:40:07,355 --> 00:40:07,922
are for the review of this and

1376
00:40:07,922 --> 00:40:08,588
I really want to thank

1377
00:40:08,588 --> 00:40:10,525
the Parks and recreation and

1378
00:40:10,525 --> 00:40:11,225
economic development

1379
00:40:11,225 --> 00:40:11,926
departments for all your work

1380
00:40:11,926 --> 00:40:12,493
in support of our maintenance

1381
00:40:12,493 --> 00:40:14,493
assessment districts.

1382
00:40:15,130 --> 00:40:15,829
District three is fortunate to

1383
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:18,829
have several bads that improve

1384
00:40:19,701 --> 00:40:20,435
the cleanliness and safety of

1385
00:40:20,435 --> 00:40:21,680
our communities including Adams

1386
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:21,702
Avenue and First San Diego

1387
00:40:21,702 --> 00:40:23,702
River Improvement Project,

1388
00:40:24,906 --> 00:40:25,607
Greater Hillcrest, Little Italy

1389
00:40:25,607 --> 00:40:26,341
Mission Hills Historic Street

1390
00:40:26,341 --> 00:40:28,741
Lighting, North Park University

1391
00:40:29,777 --> 00:40:30,545
Heights and Washington Street.

1392
00:40:30,545 --> 00:40:33,545
Everybody who resides or visits

1393
00:40:35,183 --> 00:40:35,783
or operates a business in these

1394
00:40:35,783 --> 00:40:36,484
districts benefits from

1395
00:40:36,484 --> 00:40:39,484
the enhanced services that our

1396
00:40:39,854 --> 00:40:40,455
bads provide and especially

1397
00:40:40,455 --> 00:40:41,122
want to acknowledge all

1398
00:40:41,122 --> 00:40:41,723
the people on the ground who

1399
00:40:41,723 --> 00:40:43,723
perform the particularly

1400
00:40:45,260 --> 00:40:45,860
demanding work at times to

1401
00:40:45,860 --> 00:40:47,860
perform these functions

1402
00:40:50,980 --> 00:40:50,465
Oftentimes without recognition

1403
00:40:50,465 --> 00:40:51,199
or praise.

1404
00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:54,799
They help to keep our sidewalks

1405
00:40:55,336 --> 00:40:56,690
clean, our trees trimmed and

1406
00:40:56,690 --> 00:40:56,737
watered and parkways maintained

1407
00:40:56,737 --> 00:40:59,737
among all the other services

1408
00:40:59,741 --> 00:41:00,475
that they provide in our city

1409
00:41:00,475 --> 00:41:01,142
every day Our neighborhoods are

1410
00:41:01,142 --> 00:41:04,142
better off because of their

1411
00:41:04,979 --> 00:41:05,647
dedicated efforts and I want

1412
00:41:05,647 --> 00:41:06,470
them to know that they are

1413
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:06,481
appreciated.

1414
00:41:06,481 --> 00:41:07,147
So thank you.

1415
00:41:07,147 --> 00:41:07,515
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

1416
00:41:07,515 --> 00:41:09,515
All right.

1417
00:41:09,651 --> 00:41:10,518
Thank you.

1418
00:41:10,518 --> 00:41:11,252
So we have a motion by

1419
00:41:11,252 --> 00:41:11,953
Councilmember Campo, the second

1420
00:41:11,953 --> 00:41:14,353
by Councilmember Whitburn with

1421
00:41:14,588 --> 00:41:14,856
the staff recommendation item

1422
00:41:14,856 --> 00:41:15,423
200.

1423
00:41:15,423 --> 00:41:17,823
Not see anyone else.

1424
00:41:19,461 --> 00:41:20,610
I will thank you both for

1425
00:41:20,610 --> 00:41:20,762
the presentation, both

1426
00:41:20,762 --> 00:41:21,960
departments and the good work

1427
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,960
you do.

1428
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:25,567
Honored to help form two of

1429
00:41:25,567 --> 00:41:26,300
those districts one in

1430
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:29,237
the parking rack and once under

1431
00:41:29,237 --> 00:41:29,870
Eddie and the good work that

1432
00:41:29,870 --> 00:41:30,538
the volunteers do whether

1433
00:41:30,538 --> 00:41:32,938
they're actually managing or

1434
00:41:34,108 --> 00:41:34,776
they're just simply advisory to

1435
00:41:34,776 --> 00:41:35,510
the city and the operational

1436
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:36,144
demands we certainly appreciate

1437
00:41:36,144 --> 00:41:38,544
their commitment of their

1438
00:41:39,313 --> 00:41:40,181
personal time going forward.

1439
00:41:40,181 --> 00:41:42,917
So with that we do have

1440
00:41:42,917 --> 00:41:43,652
the motion by Councilmember

1441
00:41:43,652 --> 00:41:44,190
Campos second by Council member

1442
00:41:44,190 --> 00:41:46,190
Whitburn.

1443
00:41:46,954 --> 00:41:47,655
Clerk Please call the roll on

1444
00:41:47,655 --> 00:41:47,988
item 200 I started the voting

1445
00:41:47,988 --> 00:41:49,988
system.

1446
00:41:51,326 --> 00:41:52,260
>> Please cast your vote And

1447
00:41:52,260 --> 00:41:52,694
Council Councilmember Campbell

1448
00:41:52,694 --> 00:41:56,894
if I MAY have your vote for

1449
00:42:01,669 --> 00:42:02,700
the record please I vote yes.

1450
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:04,700
Thank you.

1451
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,207
That person that vote passes

1452
00:42:06,207 --> 00:42:06,842
unanimously 8 to 0 with council

1453
00:42:06,842 --> 00:42:07,575
member Ella Rivera absent.

1454
00:42:07,575 --> 00:42:10,512
Thank you Council PRESIDENT And

1455
00:42:10,512 --> 00:42:11,212
Councilmember Kemp you can we

1456
00:42:11,212 --> 00:42:11,913
have your motion again for 2a1

1457
00:42:11,913 --> 00:42:15,383
Yes I move staff's approval of

1458
00:42:15,383 --> 00:42:16,150
staff's recommendation of item

1459
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:16,818
2a1 and just to give credit

1460
00:42:16,818 --> 00:42:17,485
where credit's due this was

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00:42:17,485 --> 00:42:18,190
that cns of which I'm also a

1462
00:42:18,190 --> 00:42:20,121
member but cns was

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00:42:20,121 --> 00:42:20,689
the committee that you went

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00:42:20,689 --> 00:42:21,223
through so thank you.

1465
00:42:21,223 --> 00:42:21,823
Good clarification.

1466
00:42:21,823 --> 00:42:23,992
Thank you for that

1467
00:42:23,992 --> 00:42:24,459
Councilmember Woodburn We'll

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00:42:24,459 --> 00:42:25,260
have the second.

1469
00:42:25,260 --> 00:42:28,396
So again we have a motion by

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00:42:28,396 --> 00:42:29,970
Councilmember Campos, second by

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00:42:29,970 --> 00:42:29,764
Councilmember Whitburn to move

1472
00:42:29,764 --> 00:42:30,465
the staff recommendation And

1473
00:42:30,465 --> 00:42:32,934
item 2 to 1 clerk please call

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00:42:32,934 --> 00:42:33,735
the roll.

1475
00:42:33,735 --> 00:42:34,302
I started the voting system.

1476
00:42:34,302 --> 00:42:34,970
Please cast your vote.

1477
00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:37,370
Councilmember Campbell, if I

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00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:38,239
MAY get your vote for

1479
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,639
the record, thank you.

1480
00:42:42,644 --> 00:42:43,144
>> As chair of cns I am happy

1481
00:42:43,144 --> 00:42:43,645
to say yes.

1482
00:42:43,645 --> 00:42:45,645
>> Thank you.

1483
00:42:47,682 --> 00:42:48,283
Council member That does passed

1484
00:42:48,283 --> 00:42:49,170
unanimously 8 to 0 with

1485
00:42:49,170 --> 00:42:51,417
Councilmember Eli Rivera absent

1486
00:42:52,586 --> 00:42:52,887
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

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00:42:52,887 --> 00:42:53,522
right.

1488
00:42:53,522 --> 00:42:56,522
Thank you City Clerk Again

1489
00:42:57,325 --> 00:42:58,192
thank you to Staff All right.

1490
00:42:58,192 --> 00:42:58,460
>> What you all been waiting

1491
00:42:58,460 --> 00:43:00,460
for?

1492
00:43:01,630 --> 00:43:03,463
Clerk Please introduce item 202

1493
00:43:06,234 --> 00:43:06,935
Item 2o2 is the accessory

1494
00:43:06,935 --> 00:43:07,535
dwelling unit 82 and Junior

1495
00:43:07,535 --> 00:43:09,535
accessory dwelling unit.

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00:43:11,472 --> 00:43:12,140
Jt you regulation amendments to

1497
00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:12,774
the San Diego Municipal Code

1498
00:43:12,774 --> 00:43:15,174
and Local Coastal Program

1499
00:43:15,777 --> 00:43:16,478
amendment If you'd like to

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00:43:16,478 --> 00:43:17,145
speak to this item please be

1501
00:43:17,145 --> 00:43:20,145
sure to submit your speaker

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00:43:20,382 --> 00:43:20,882
slip to the front of the room

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00:43:20,882 --> 00:43:21,616
in the clear box.

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00:43:21,616 --> 00:43:22,250
And if you are participating

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00:43:22,250 --> 00:43:25,250
remotely now's the time to

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00:43:25,954 --> 00:43:26,622
raise your hand by pressing

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00:43:26,622 --> 00:43:26,989
Star nine or the raise your

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00:43:26,989 --> 00:43:28,989
hand icon.

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00:43:30,892 --> 00:43:31,192
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

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00:43:31,192 --> 00:43:31,994
right.

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00:43:31,994 --> 00:43:32,661
>> If you want to hold the sign

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00:43:32,661 --> 00:43:35,610
up, remember you're blocking

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00:43:36,264 --> 00:43:36,965
somebody's view back row is a

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00:43:36,965 --> 00:43:37,532
great place for the big signs

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00:43:37,532 --> 00:43:38,100
that I see out there.

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00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:40,500
But be considerate for

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00:43:40,736 --> 00:43:41,136
the folks that are sitting

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00:43:41,136 --> 00:43:41,903
behind you.

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00:43:41,903 --> 00:43:44,903
So with that staff please

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00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:45,941
introduce yourselves for

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00:43:45,941 --> 00:43:46,808
the record and let us know how

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00:43:46,808 --> 00:43:50,408
much time you need for your

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00:43:50,646 --> 00:43:51,179
presentation.

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00:43:51,179 --> 00:43:52,130
>> Good afternoon.

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00:43:52,130 --> 00:43:52,581
My name is Liz, said Condon and

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00:43:52,581 --> 00:43:54,115
with the City Planning

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00:43:54,115 --> 00:43:54,449
department we need about 25

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00:43:54,449 --> 00:43:56,449
minutes.

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00:43:59,788 --> 00:44:00,421
All right, you're ready.

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00:44:00,421 --> 00:44:01,223
>> Good afternoon.

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00:44:01,223 --> 00:44:04,459
My name is Liz, said Kania and

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00:44:04,459 --> 00:44:05,160
I'm a principal planner with

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00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:05,794
the City Planning Department.

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00:44:05,794 --> 00:44:06,461
Joining me today are city

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00:44:06,461 --> 00:44:07,960
planning director Heidi Von

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00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,496
Blum, Deputy Director Tate

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00:44:09,597 --> 00:44:10,299
Galloway and program manager.

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00:44:10,299 --> 00:44:10,999
Separately we're here today to

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00:44:10,999 --> 00:44:13,399
present the Accessory dwelling

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00:44:14,336 --> 00:44:14,937
unit and junior accessory

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00:44:14,937 --> 00:44:15,537
dwelling unit regulation

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00:44:15,537 --> 00:44:16,138
amendments the San Diego

1543
00:44:16,138 --> 00:44:18,538
Municipal Code and Local

1544
00:44:19,241 --> 00:44:20,800
Coastal Program.

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00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,800
Since 2017 the city has taken

1546
00:44:24,813 --> 00:44:25,413
proactive steps to align edu

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00:44:25,413 --> 00:44:25,948
and jd regulations with

1548
00:44:25,948 --> 00:44:27,948
evolving state laws.

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00:44:28,650 --> 00:44:29,351
These updates aim to increase

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00:44:29,351 --> 00:44:30,850
housing production, streamline

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00:44:30,850 --> 00:44:32,485
permitting processes and reduce

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00:44:33,522 --> 00:44:34,123
regulatory barriers Each

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00:44:34,123 --> 00:44:34,690
amendment has built upon

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00:44:34,690 --> 00:44:35,190
the last incorporating

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00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:37,190
priorities such as

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00:44:38,794 --> 00:44:39,494
affordability, accessibility

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00:44:39,494 --> 00:44:40,129
and neighborhood compatibility

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00:44:40,129 --> 00:44:42,529
to better address India's

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00:44:43,565 --> 00:44:44,333
ongoing housing shortage.

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00:44:44,333 --> 00:44:47,333
On MARCH 4th, 2025, the City

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00:44:49,137 --> 00:44:49,872
Council directed Swift

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00:44:49,872 --> 00:44:50,472
Amendments the ada Home Density

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00:44:50,472 --> 00:44:51,720
Bonus program to address

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00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:53,720
implementation concerns.

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00:44:54,420 --> 00:44:54,743
These comprehensive amendments

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00:44:54,743 --> 00:44:55,444
presented as a single package

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00:44:55,444 --> 00:44:57,844
allow for focused discussions

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00:44:59,114 --> 00:44:59,815
on key issues such as public

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00:44:59,815 --> 00:45:00,382
safety, development scale and

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00:45:00,382 --> 00:45:02,382
neighborhood funding.

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00:45:03,886 --> 00:45:04,553
Adopting these amendments

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00:45:04,553 --> 00:45:05,187
together promotes regulatory

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00:45:05,187 --> 00:45:05,721
clarity and helps prevent

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00:45:05,721 --> 00:45:07,721
confusion or delays.

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00:45:08,957 --> 00:45:09,624
The city will also coordinate

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00:45:09,624 --> 00:45:10,259
closely with the California

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00:45:10,259 --> 00:45:10,859
Department of Housing and

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00:45:10,859 --> 00:45:11,527
Community Development to

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00:45:11,527 --> 00:45:13,927
support timely and effective

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00:45:15,230 --> 00:45:16,198
implementation.

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00:45:16,198 --> 00:45:18,466
In the next few slides that

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00:45:18,466 --> 00:45:20,466
analyze 80 homes permitted

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00:45:22,338 --> 00:45:23,380
between 2021 and 2024, the city

1584
00:45:23,380 --> 00:45:23,772
permitted fourth thousand 388

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00:45:23,772 --> 00:45:26,772
80 home projects resulting in a

1586
00:45:28,430 --> 00:45:30,443
total of 5720 80 homes During

1587
00:45:31,847 --> 00:45:32,414
this time approximately 90% of

1588
00:45:32,414 --> 00:45:34,814
the projects result in

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00:45:34,817 --> 00:45:35,518
the development of 123 82 homes

1590
00:45:35,518 --> 00:45:38,518
and the r's residential single

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00:45:39,855 --> 00:45:42,855
unit base owns the city

1592
00:45:43,626 --> 00:45:44,360
permitted 410 80 homes through

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00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:44,893
7080 home density bonus program

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00:45:44,893 --> 00:45:46,362
projects when 91% of

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00:45:46,362 --> 00:45:49,962
the projects located in the rs

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00:45:52,201 --> 00:45:52,768
one seven zone the 80 home

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00:45:52,768 --> 00:45:54,768
density bonus program

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00:45:54,903 --> 00:45:55,670
facilitated the permitting of

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00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:56,471
368 affordable 82 homes in 507

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00:45:56,471 --> 00:45:59,471
market rate 80 homes for a

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00:46:00,508 --> 00:46:02,908
total of 875 permanent adu

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00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,214
homes representing 14% of

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00:46:05,214 --> 00:46:05,781
the total 80 homes permitted in

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00:46:05,781 --> 00:46:08,584
the city of San Diego.

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00:46:08,584 --> 00:46:10,984
This represented 5% of all

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00:46:12,287 --> 00:46:13,210
housing projects permitted

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00:46:13,210 --> 00:46:15,210
between 2021 and 2024 including

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00:46:15,624 --> 00:46:16,325
8% of the portable homes, 2% of

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00:46:16,325 --> 00:46:17,260
the market rate homes and just

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00:46:17,260 --> 00:46:20,260
3% of the total housing stocks

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00:46:20,896 --> 00:46:23,296
permitted During this time

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00:46:24,833 --> 00:46:25,534
the city permitted 3009 State

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00:46:25,534 --> 00:46:25,935
allowed 80 homes in the outer

1614
00:46:25,935 --> 00:46:27,935
space zone.

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00:46:29,700 --> 00:46:29,839
Of these 84% were located in

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00:46:29,839 --> 00:46:33,420
the rs one seven zone which

1617
00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:33,742
represents 42% of the total

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00:46:33,742 --> 00:46:34,309
acreage of residential single

1619
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:36,309
family zoned citywide.

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00:46:37,246 --> 00:46:37,947
These 80 homes were required to

1621
00:46:37,947 --> 00:46:40,947
be permitted under state law.

1622
00:46:42,551 --> 00:46:43,252
Lastly, the vast majority of 82

1623
00:46:43,252 --> 00:46:46,355
home projects in the rs one

1624
00:46:46,355 --> 00:46:48,755
seven zone approximately 99% or

1625
00:46:50,326 --> 00:46:50,826
2501 projects included between

1626
00:46:50,826 --> 00:46:51,493
1 and 382 homes.

1627
00:46:51,493 --> 00:46:53,493
Collectively these projects

1628
00:46:53,529 --> 00:46:54,196
have contributed 2809 new 82

1629
00:46:54,196 --> 00:46:57,196
homes to the city's housing

1630
00:46:58,267 --> 00:46:59,670
supply.

1631
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:59,702
>> The proposed amendments were

1632
00:46:59,702 --> 00:47:01,804
presented to the Planning

1633
00:47:01,804 --> 00:47:02,405
Commission on MAY 1st and

1634
00:47:02,405 --> 00:47:02,972
the Land Use and Housing

1635
00:47:02,972 --> 00:47:05,372
Committee on MAY 15th.

1636
00:47:06,842 --> 00:47:07,476
Robust discussion took place at

1637
00:47:07,476 --> 00:47:08,143
both meetings resulting in

1638
00:47:08,143 --> 00:47:08,844
several amendments based on

1639
00:47:08,844 --> 00:47:11,244
the recommendations from each

1640
00:47:11,513 --> 00:47:12,281
body.

1641
00:47:12,281 --> 00:47:15,281
These changes are outlined in

1642
00:47:16,819 --> 00:47:17,553
detail in the staff report.

1643
00:47:17,553 --> 00:47:20,553
The single issue Code Amendment

1644
00:47:20,589 --> 00:47:21,190
package includes 25 proposed

1645
00:47:21,190 --> 00:47:21,857
amendments 15 related to

1646
00:47:21,857 --> 00:47:22,591
general regulations and ten

1647
00:47:22,591 --> 00:47:25,962
specific to the e2 home density

1648
00:47:25,962 --> 00:47:26,662
bonus program.

1649
00:47:26,662 --> 00:47:27,263
Revisions were made following

1650
00:47:27,263 --> 00:47:27,897
the Land Use and Housing

1651
00:47:27,897 --> 00:47:30,232
Committee hearing based on

1652
00:47:30,232 --> 00:47:30,800
committee recommendations.

1653
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,467
Correspondence from

1654
00:47:31,467 --> 00:47:32,340
the California Department of

1655
00:47:32,340 --> 00:47:34,340
Housing and Community

1656
00:47:35,338 --> 00:47:35,704
Development dated MAY 30th and

1657
00:47:35,704 --> 00:47:36,339
JUNE 13th.

1658
00:47:36,339 --> 00:47:38,739
Community feedback and a

1659
00:47:39,809 --> 00:47:40,476
memorandum issued by City

1660
00:47:40,476 --> 00:47:40,977
Planning director Heidi von

1661
00:47:40,977 --> 00:47:41,577
Blum on JUNE 14th.

1662
00:47:41,577 --> 00:47:43,977
Each item revised since

1663
00:47:44,780 --> 00:47:45,381
the committee meeting is

1664
00:47:45,381 --> 00:47:45,882
labeled was revised in

1665
00:47:45,882 --> 00:47:47,882
the presentation.

1666
00:47:49,318 --> 00:47:49,631
Item 180 Home minimum maximum

1667
00:47:49,631 --> 00:47:51,631
size.

1668
00:47:52,888 --> 00:47:53,622
The proposed amendment removes

1669
00:47:53,622 --> 00:47:54,290
the 1200 square foot size limit

1670
00:47:54,290 --> 00:47:57,290
from the area definition and

1671
00:47:58,161 --> 00:47:58,661
applies it only to attached and

1672
00:47:58,661 --> 00:48:00,661
detached 82 homes.

1673
00:48:00,897 --> 00:48:01,497
It also clarifies that

1674
00:48:01,497 --> 00:48:02,165
converted 80 homes with

1675
00:48:02,165 --> 00:48:04,565
existing structures are not

1676
00:48:05,234 --> 00:48:05,835
subject to a size limit and

1677
00:48:05,835 --> 00:48:06,502
converted 80 homes with

1678
00:48:06,502 --> 00:48:08,902
the necessary structure MAY

1679
00:48:09,372 --> 00:48:09,973
construct an additional 150ft

1680
00:48:09,973 --> 00:48:12,373
for ingress and egress.

1681
00:48:13,543 --> 00:48:14,177
Item 281 jd Zoning.

1682
00:48:14,177 --> 00:48:14,911
This item updates the use

1683
00:48:14,911 --> 00:48:17,311
tables for agricultural general

1684
00:48:19,148 --> 00:48:19,882
zones to permit permit 81 jd

1685
00:48:19,882 --> 00:48:20,550
homes consistent with allowance

1686
00:48:20,550 --> 00:48:22,318
for single dwelling units in

1687
00:48:22,318 --> 00:48:22,951
these zones.

1688
00:48:22,951 --> 00:48:23,385
Item three Fire Sprinkler

1689
00:48:23,385 --> 00:48:25,385
Requirements.

1690
00:48:27,490 --> 00:48:28,224
This proposed amendment

1691
00:48:28,224 --> 00:48:28,925
clarifies that the construction

1692
00:48:28,925 --> 00:48:29,626
of new homes shall not trigger

1693
00:48:29,626 --> 00:48:32,626
a requirement to install fire

1694
00:48:32,662 --> 00:48:33,363
sprinkler systems for an

1695
00:48:33,363 --> 00:48:33,997
existing primary dwelling unit

1696
00:48:33,997 --> 00:48:34,564
or multiple dwelling unit

1697
00:48:34,564 --> 00:48:36,564
unless required under

1698
00:48:37,567 --> 00:48:38,330
the California Building

1699
00:48:38,330 --> 00:48:38,768
Standards Code.

1700
00:48:38,768 --> 00:48:41,504
Item four Converted 80 and jd

1701
00:48:41,504 --> 00:48:41,938
Homes within the Coastal

1702
00:48:41,938 --> 00:48:42,672
overlay zone.

1703
00:48:42,672 --> 00:48:43,406
This amendment clarifies that

1704
00:48:43,406 --> 00:48:45,406
certain development regulations

1705
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:48,244
related to wetlands sensitive

1706
00:48:48,244 --> 00:48:48,844
coastal blocks, coastal beaches

1707
00:48:48,844 --> 00:48:50,844
and supplemental coastal

1708
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:53,983
regulations apply only to

1709
00:48:53,983 --> 00:48:54,650
converted 80 and jd Homes

1710
00:48:54,650 --> 00:48:56,419
within that coastal overlay

1711
00:48:56,419 --> 00:48:57,119
zone.

1712
00:48:57,119 --> 00:48:57,854
Item five jd Rental Terms.

1713
00:48:57,854 --> 00:49:00,854
This removes the 31 day minimum

1714
00:49:01,457 --> 00:49:01,757
rental term requirement for jd

1715
00:49:01,757 --> 00:49:02,425
Homes.

1716
00:49:02,425 --> 00:49:04,825
This requirement remains in

1717
00:49:05,895 --> 00:49:06,262
place for all other 82 homes.

1718
00:49:06,262 --> 00:49:06,963
Item six.

1719
00:49:06,963 --> 00:49:09,963
The number of permitted areas

1720
00:49:10,867 --> 00:49:11,568
in jd Homes with an existing or

1721
00:49:11,568 --> 00:49:13,968
proposed single dwelling unit.

1722
00:49:14,604 --> 00:49:15,371
This proposed amendment

1723
00:49:15,371 --> 00:49:16,390
clarifies that one jd home one

1724
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:18,439
converted 80 home and one

1725
00:49:18,808 --> 00:49:19,575
detached home MAY be permitted

1726
00:49:19,575 --> 00:49:23,775
on a lot with an existing or

1727
00:49:23,912 --> 00:49:24,614
proposed single family home.

1728
00:49:24,614 --> 00:49:25,347
Item seven Tree Requirements.

1729
00:49:25,347 --> 00:49:27,747
This proposed amendment removes

1730
00:49:29,819 --> 00:49:30,520
the tree landscaping

1731
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,200
requirement for state allowed

1732
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,420
area and jd Homes.

1733
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:34,724
80 bonus projects would

1734
00:49:34,724 --> 00:49:35,391
continue to be required to

1735
00:49:35,391 --> 00:49:38,391
provide two trees for every

1736
00:49:39,462 --> 00:49:40,230
5000ft of lot area.

1737
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:43,230
Item eight Number of permitted

1738
00:49:43,333 --> 00:49:44,670
a2 and jd homes on existing or

1739
00:49:44,670 --> 00:49:44,667
proposed multiple dwelling unit

1740
00:49:44,667 --> 00:49:45,401
on lots with an existing

1741
00:49:45,401 --> 00:49:47,801
existing multiple dwelling unit

1742
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:51,374
structure Up to 82 homes MAY be

1743
00:49:51,374 --> 00:49:52,107
permitted but the number of

1744
00:49:52,107 --> 00:49:52,842
detached 80 homes cannot exceed

1745
00:49:52,842 --> 00:49:53,143
the number of existing dwelling

1746
00:49:53,143 --> 00:49:55,143
units.

1747
00:49:57,113 --> 00:49:57,814
Non livable spaces MAY also be

1748
00:49:57,814 --> 00:49:58,547
converted into 80 homes up to

1749
00:49:58,547 --> 00:50:01,547
25% of the existing units with

1750
00:50:01,985 --> 00:50:02,351
Amendment of one.

1751
00:50:02,351 --> 00:50:04,351
Item nine.

1752
00:50:07,156 --> 00:50:07,890
Floor Area ratio maximums state

1753
00:50:07,890 --> 00:50:10,960
allowed a2 and jd homes located

1754
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:11,661
within or the proposed space an

1755
00:50:11,661 --> 00:50:12,361
existing single dwelling unit

1756
00:50:12,361 --> 00:50:14,761
structure single dwelling unit

1757
00:50:17,734 --> 00:50:18,301
are not subject to the floor

1758
00:50:18,301 --> 00:50:18,935
area ratio maximums or

1759
00:50:18,935 --> 00:50:20,803
the underlying base zone.

1760
00:50:20,803 --> 00:50:21,604
Additionally one state allowed

1761
00:50:21,604 --> 00:50:22,372
Edo home that is 800ft or less

1762
00:50:22,372 --> 00:50:25,942
is not subject to the floor

1763
00:50:25,942 --> 00:50:26,542
area ratio limitation provided

1764
00:50:26,542 --> 00:50:29,542
that is only attached or

1765
00:50:30,713 --> 00:50:31,381
detached on the lot.

1766
00:50:31,381 --> 00:50:31,982
This item was revised after

1767
00:50:31,982 --> 00:50:33,516
the Land Use and Housing

1768
00:50:33,516 --> 00:50:34,150
Committee to clarify that only

1769
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:36,150
converted 80 homes allowed

1770
00:50:37,721 --> 00:50:38,388
under Government Code section

1771
00:50:38,388 --> 00:50:38,922
66323 are not subject to

1772
00:50:38,922 --> 00:50:39,322
the floor area ratio

1773
00:50:39,322 --> 00:50:41,322
limitation.

1774
00:50:42,691 --> 00:50:43,126
Item ten Side Yard setbacks for

1775
00:50:43,126 --> 00:50:43,726
a2 Structure.

1776
00:50:43,726 --> 00:50:45,295
This proposed amendment

1777
00:50:45,295 --> 00:50:45,996
specifies that 80 home

1778
00:50:45,996 --> 00:50:46,696
structures must have a minimum

1779
00:50:46,696 --> 00:50:50,166
street side yard of four feet

1780
00:50:50,166 --> 00:50:50,867
or the based on street side

1781
00:50:50,867 --> 00:50:51,534
yard setback whichever is less

1782
00:50:51,534 --> 00:50:51,802
to be consistent with state

1783
00:50:51,802 --> 00:50:53,802
law.

1784
00:50:55,772 --> 00:50:58,172
Item 11 Fire Safety Setback.

1785
00:50:58,274 --> 00:50:58,908
This proposed amendment

1786
00:50:58,908 --> 00:50:59,609
requires 80 homes located

1787
00:50:59,609 --> 00:51:02,679
within high or very high fire

1788
00:51:02,679 --> 00:51:03,380
severity zones to maintain a

1789
00:51:03,380 --> 00:51:04,113
minimum four foot setback from

1790
00:51:04,113 --> 00:51:07,113
interior and rear yard property

1791
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:08,510
lines to insert defensible

1792
00:51:08,510 --> 00:51:08,785
space.

1793
00:51:08,785 --> 00:51:09,385
It also clarifies that the fire

1794
00:51:09,385 --> 00:51:11,385
code officials existing

1795
00:51:12,356 --> 00:51:12,956
authority to require a greater

1796
00:51:12,956 --> 00:51:13,623
setbacks when warranted

1797
00:51:13,623 --> 00:51:16,230
providing clear guidance and

1798
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:17,360
greater developmental certainty

1799
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:18,610
.

1800
00:51:18,610 --> 00:51:18,729
In response to the Department

1801
00:51:18,729 --> 00:51:19,129
of Housing new developments.

1802
00:51:19,129 --> 00:51:21,129
Memorandum.

1803
00:51:22,131 --> 00:51:22,799
The originally proposed five

1804
00:51:22,799 --> 00:51:23,467
yard setback was reduced to

1805
00:51:23,467 --> 00:51:24,167
four feet and specific code

1806
00:51:24,167 --> 00:51:27,167
citations have been added to

1807
00:51:27,304 --> 00:51:27,704
support the fire code officials

1808
00:51:27,704 --> 00:51:28,372
discretion.

1809
00:51:28,372 --> 00:51:30,372
Item 12 Replacement Parking.

1810
00:51:32,542 --> 00:51:33,176
This proposed amendment

1811
00:51:33,176 --> 00:51:33,810
initially added uncovered

1812
00:51:33,810 --> 00:51:34,444
parking space the list of

1813
00:51:34,444 --> 00:51:36,880
parking types that do not

1814
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:37,547
require replacement parking

1815
00:51:37,547 --> 00:51:38,248
when removed to accommodate

1816
00:51:38,248 --> 00:51:41,848
ideal homes except in the case

1817
00:51:41,852 --> 00:51:42,452
where the properties located

1818
00:51:42,452 --> 00:51:43,186
with a beach impact area

1819
00:51:43,186 --> 00:51:43,853
the parking impact overlay zone

1820
00:51:43,853 --> 00:51:46,853
and outside a transit party

1821
00:51:46,857 --> 00:51:47,524
area.

1822
00:51:47,524 --> 00:51:48,190
This approach was consistent

1823
00:51:48,190 --> 00:51:48,925
with the replacement parking

1824
00:51:48,925 --> 00:51:50,925
requirements previously applied

1825
00:51:52,620 --> 00:51:52,796
Applied by the California

1826
00:51:52,796 --> 00:51:53,463
Coastal Commission for Garages,

1827
00:51:53,463 --> 00:51:55,863
carports and covered parking

1828
00:51:57,133 --> 00:51:57,768
structures removed or converted

1829
00:51:57,768 --> 00:51:58,368
to accommodate in 82 home.

1830
00:51:58,368 --> 00:52:00,768
However, in response to

1831
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:01,705
concerns raised by

1832
00:52:01,705 --> 00:52:02,406
the Department of Housing New

1833
00:52:02,406 --> 00:52:03,106
Development in their JUNE 13th

1834
00:52:03,106 --> 00:52:05,106
correspondence, this amendment

1835
00:52:06,410 --> 00:52:07,143
has been revised to clarify

1836
00:52:07,143 --> 00:52:07,778
that replacement parking is not

1837
00:52:07,778 --> 00:52:10,178
required when an uncovered

1838
00:52:10,247 --> 00:52:10,848
parking space is removed and

1839
00:52:10,848 --> 00:52:11,448
accommodate and at home

1840
00:52:11,448 --> 00:52:12,148
regardless of location.

1841
00:52:12,148 --> 00:52:15,148
We anticipate that the Coastal

1842
00:52:15,786 --> 00:52:16,486
Commission MAY desire changes

1843
00:52:16,486 --> 00:52:17,187
here but nonetheless recommend

1844
00:52:17,187 --> 00:52:20,187
including these changes but do

1845
00:52:20,490 --> 00:52:21,910
not include including these

1846
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:21,859
changes at this time.

1847
00:52:21,859 --> 00:52:24,259
Item 13 jd Home Occupancy

1848
00:52:25,896 --> 00:52:26,597
Requirement Exemption This

1849
00:52:26,597 --> 00:52:27,163
exempts governmental agencies

1850
00:52:27,163 --> 00:52:29,563
Land trust and housing

1851
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:31,602
organizations from jd Homeowner

1852
00:52:31,602 --> 00:52:33,602
Occupancy Requirements.

1853
00:52:35,739 --> 00:52:36,373
Item 2380 homes separate sale

1854
00:52:36,373 --> 00:52:36,973
or convenient conveyance.

1855
00:52:36,973 --> 00:52:38,973
This proposed amendment

1856
00:52:39,743 --> 00:52:40,444
implements A.B. 1033 by

1857
00:52:40,444 --> 00:52:42,844
allowing eligible 80 homes to

1858
00:52:44,314 --> 00:52:44,948
be converted into individual

1859
00:52:44,948 --> 00:52:45,616
condominium units and sold

1860
00:52:45,616 --> 00:52:45,983
separately from the primary

1861
00:52:45,983 --> 00:52:46,550
residence.

1862
00:52:46,550 --> 00:52:49,420
It applies the city of

1863
00:52:49,420 --> 00:52:50,153
Condominium conversion

1864
00:52:50,153 --> 00:52:50,854
regulations including the first

1865
00:52:50,854 --> 00:52:53,854
right of refusal for existing

1866
00:52:54,758 --> 00:52:55,426
tenants to ensure tenant

1867
00:52:55,426 --> 00:52:56,160
protections are maintained.

1868
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,560
80 homes that receive financing

1869
00:52:58,595 --> 00:52:59,330
or assistance from the senior

1870
00:52:59,330 --> 00:52:59,963
Housing Commission or otherwise

1871
00:52:59,963 --> 00:53:00,597
deemed restricted are not

1872
00:53:00,597 --> 00:53:02,997
eligible for conversion or

1873
00:53:03,968 --> 00:53:04,501
separate sale during the term

1874
00:53:04,501 --> 00:53:05,235
of this restriction.

1875
00:53:05,235 --> 00:53:05,970
As additional coordination with

1876
00:53:05,970 --> 00:53:08,970
the Housing Commission is still

1877
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:09,940
required at the MAY 15th, 2025

1878
00:53:09,940 --> 00:53:12,340
Lenders and Housing Committee

1879
00:53:13,343 --> 00:53:14,110
meeting the committee discussed

1880
00:53:14,110 --> 00:53:14,711
a preference for for sale 80

1881
00:53:14,711 --> 00:53:18,311
homes to be offered to buyers

1882
00:53:18,415 --> 00:53:18,816
who intend to occupy the ideal

1883
00:53:18,816 --> 00:53:19,483
home first.

1884
00:53:19,483 --> 00:53:21,883
The City Planning Department

1885
00:53:21,985 --> 00:53:22,686
has amended this proposal to

1886
00:53:22,686 --> 00:53:23,353
require that 82 homes conveyed

1887
00:53:23,353 --> 00:53:25,753
separately from the primary

1888
00:53:26,557 --> 00:53:27,257
residence must be listed on at

1889
00:53:27,257 --> 00:53:27,858
least two publicly accessible

1890
00:53:27,858 --> 00:53:29,660
real estate websites or

1891
00:53:29,660 --> 00:53:30,361
databases for at least 30 days.

1892
00:53:30,361 --> 00:53:33,361
This listing must also include

1893
00:53:34,764 --> 00:53:35,465
a disclosure indicating a

1894
00:53:35,465 --> 00:53:36,166
preference for the 80 home to

1895
00:53:36,166 --> 00:53:36,934
be offered to buyers intending

1896
00:53:36,934 --> 00:53:39,669
to use the adi home as their

1897
00:53:39,669 --> 00:53:40,437
primary residence.

1898
00:53:40,437 --> 00:53:40,737
>> Item 25 two story height

1899
00:53:40,737 --> 00:53:42,737
limit.

1900
00:53:44,141 --> 00:53:44,742
This proposed amendment was

1901
00:53:44,742 --> 00:53:45,442
added after the Planning

1902
00:53:45,442 --> 00:53:47,842
Commission hearing in response

1903
00:53:48,946 --> 00:53:49,647
to the recommendation to limit

1904
00:53:49,647 --> 00:53:50,281
the height of an 80 home

1905
00:53:50,281 --> 00:53:50,848
structure to two stories.

1906
00:53:50,848 --> 00:53:53,248
Based on feedback from

1907
00:53:54,318 --> 00:53:55,520
the lands and Housing Committee

1908
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:55,785
meeting, this proposal has been

1909
00:53:55,785 --> 00:53:56,353
further amended to clarify that

1910
00:53:56,353 --> 00:53:58,656
the two storey height

1911
00:53:58,656 --> 00:53:59,390
limitation would only apply to

1912
00:53:59,390 --> 00:54:00,230
detached 80 home structures and

1913
00:54:00,230 --> 00:54:02,423
80 homes attached to an

1914
00:54:03,260 --> 00:54:03,894
existing accessory structure on

1915
00:54:03,894 --> 00:54:04,494
single family zoned lots.

1916
00:54:04,494 --> 00:54:06,894
This limitation is also

1917
00:54:08,299 --> 00:54:08,966
consistent with state law and

1918
00:54:08,966 --> 00:54:09,567
based on height limitations

1919
00:54:09,567 --> 00:54:11,967
would continue to apply.

1920
00:54:13,537 --> 00:54:14,205
The following amendments are

1921
00:54:14,205 --> 00:54:14,638
specific to the Home Density

1922
00:54:14,638 --> 00:54:16,638
bonus program.

1923
00:54:16,706 --> 00:54:17,408
Item 14 Applicability.

1924
00:54:17,408 --> 00:54:18,800
The program currently applies

1925
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,800
in all zones that allow

1926
00:54:21,579 --> 00:54:22,179
residential uses.

1927
00:54:22,179 --> 00:54:22,880
This proposed amendment

1928
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,880
previously removed eligibility

1929
00:54:26,917 --> 00:54:27,785
for 80 home density bonus

1930
00:54:27,785 --> 00:54:29,786
projects in the rs one one rs

1931
00:54:29,786 --> 00:54:30,654
one to rs one three rs one for

1932
00:54:30,654 --> 00:54:34,854
rs when eight rs one nine rs

1933
00:54:35,192 --> 00:54:35,860
110 and rs 111 zones based on

1934
00:54:35,860 --> 00:54:36,527
feedback from Councilmember

1935
00:54:36,527 --> 00:54:37,161
Kent Lee and the California

1936
00:54:37,161 --> 00:54:37,561
Department of Housing New

1937
00:54:37,561 --> 00:54:39,561
Development.

1938
00:54:40,364 --> 00:54:41,980
City Planning Director Heidi

1939
00:54:41,980 --> 00:54:41,599
von Blum issued a memorandum on

1940
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:42,199
JUNE 14th revising

1941
00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:44,599
the amendment to restore

1942
00:54:45,468 --> 00:54:46,690
eligibility for the 80 home

1943
00:54:46,690 --> 00:54:46,737
density bonus program on

1944
00:54:46,737 --> 00:54:49,137
parcels within these zones.

1945
00:54:50,407 --> 00:54:51,108
Under the revised language all

1946
00:54:51,108 --> 00:54:51,776
of eligibility is permitted if

1947
00:54:51,776 --> 00:54:54,776
the portion of the premises

1948
00:54:55,212 --> 00:54:55,980
proposed for development is

1949
00:54:55,980 --> 00:54:56,681
located in a high or high

1950
00:54:56,681 --> 00:54:59,810
resourced opportunity area as

1951
00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:59,917
designated by the California

1952
00:54:59,917 --> 00:55:00,284
Tax Credit Allocation

1953
00:55:00,284 --> 00:55:00,951
Committee.

1954
00:55:00,951 --> 00:55:01,652
At the time the development

1955
00:55:01,652 --> 00:55:04,520
application is deemed complete

1956
00:55:04,955 --> 00:55:05,656
and the parcel is identified as

1957
00:55:05,656 --> 00:55:06,900
residential and the applicable

1958
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:06,657
land use plan.

1959
00:55:06,657 --> 00:55:08,657
This revision advances

1960
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:10,260
the goals of expanding

1961
00:55:10,260 --> 00:55:10,961
affordable housing

1962
00:55:10,961 --> 00:55:11,495
opportunities in high resource

1963
00:55:11,495 --> 00:55:13,495
areas while ensuring

1964
00:55:14,832 --> 00:55:15,332
consistency with state housing

1965
00:55:15,332 --> 00:55:16,000
parties including

1966
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,400
the requirement to formally

1967
00:55:18,603 --> 00:55:20,603
further fair housing.

1968
00:55:23,541 --> 00:55:25,941
The rs 1112131418191 ten and

1969
00:55:26,744 --> 00:55:27,411
111 basins previously accounted

1970
00:55:27,411 --> 00:55:28,111
for approximately 24% of

1971
00:55:28,111 --> 00:55:28,779
the land eligible for the ada

1972
00:55:28,779 --> 00:55:31,179
Home Density Bonus program.

1973
00:55:31,181 --> 00:55:31,716
Under the revised criteria

1974
00:55:31,716 --> 00:55:33,716
approximately 75% of

1975
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:36,721
residential parcels located

1976
00:55:36,721 --> 00:55:37,455
within hina highest California

1977
00:55:37,455 --> 00:55:38,550
tax credit allocation Committee

1978
00:55:38,550 --> 00:55:40,550
Opportunity areas remain

1979
00:55:41,391 --> 00:55:42,260
eligible.

1980
00:55:42,260 --> 00:55:44,260
These zones produce 116 82

1981
00:55:45,930 --> 00:55:46,597
homes representing 3.4% of

1982
00:55:46,597 --> 00:55:49,567
the 80 s permitted in the rs

1983
00:55:49,567 --> 00:55:50,167
zone and just 2% of all eight

1984
00:55:50,167 --> 00:55:50,735
homes permitted citywide

1985
00:55:50,735 --> 00:55:52,735
between 2021 and 2022.

1986
00:55:53,837 --> 00:55:54,539
Item 15 evacuation rounds.

1987
00:55:54,539 --> 00:55:56,939
This proposed amendment would

1988
00:55:58,676 --> 00:55:59,377
require lots and high or very

1989
00:55:59,377 --> 00:56:00,440
high fire severity zones to be

1990
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:00,710
on an improved public street

1991
00:56:00,710 --> 00:56:03,710
with at least two evacuation

1992
00:56:03,881 --> 00:56:04,582
evacuation routes to qualify

1993
00:56:04,582 --> 00:56:04,915
for the 80 home density bonus

1994
00:56:04,915 --> 00:56:05,616
program.

1995
00:56:05,616 --> 00:56:08,616
It also prohibits the program

1996
00:56:09,620 --> 00:56:10,321
in lots anchored in cul de sacs

1997
00:56:10,321 --> 00:56:11,550
or streets with only one point

1998
00:56:11,550 --> 00:56:13,824
of ingress and egress in a high

1999
00:56:13,824 --> 00:56:14,292
or very high fire hazard

2000
00:56:14,292 --> 00:56:16,292
severity zones.

2001
00:56:17,394 --> 00:56:18,620
Item 16 Developmental scale at

2002
00:56:18,620 --> 00:56:18,730
both the Planning Commission

2003
00:56:18,730 --> 00:56:22,660
and the Land Use and Housing

2004
00:56:22,660 --> 00:56:22,600
Committee meetings discussions

2005
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:23,301
focused on limiting

2006
00:56:23,301 --> 00:56:24,100
the development scale projects

2007
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:24,335
on the ada Home Density Bonus

2008
00:56:24,335 --> 00:56:26,335
program.

2009
00:56:27,271 --> 00:56:27,939
This proposed amendment is

2010
00:56:27,939 --> 00:56:28,439
intended to promote 80 homes

2011
00:56:28,439 --> 00:56:29,600
that are scaled to

2012
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:29,607
the surrounding area,

2013
00:56:29,607 --> 00:56:32,700
especially on larger and

2014
00:56:32,610 --> 00:56:33,278
environmentally sensitive lots

2015
00:56:33,278 --> 00:56:33,979
for multiple families zones

2016
00:56:33,979 --> 00:56:34,279
with environmentally sensitive

2017
00:56:34,279 --> 00:56:36,279
lands.

2018
00:56:36,581 --> 00:56:37,181
The floor area ratio would be

2019
00:56:37,181 --> 00:56:37,882
calculated based only on

2020
00:56:37,882 --> 00:56:38,483
the portion lot that does not

2021
00:56:38,483 --> 00:56:40,483
contain environmentally

2022
00:56:41,852 --> 00:56:42,653
sensitive lands.

2023
00:56:42,653 --> 00:56:43,354
To limit the development scale

2024
00:56:43,354 --> 00:56:46,257
on single family lots the lot

2025
00:56:46,257 --> 00:56:46,958
area used to calculate

2026
00:56:46,958 --> 00:56:47,491
the floor ratio is proposed to

2027
00:56:47,491 --> 00:56:49,891
be capped at 8000ft.

2028
00:56:51,229 --> 00:56:51,930
This area MAY be further

2029
00:56:51,930 --> 00:56:52,530
reduced by excluding portions

2030
00:56:52,530 --> 00:56:55,530
of the lot that contain

2031
00:56:55,667 --> 00:56:55,966
environmentally sensitive lands

2032
00:56:55,966 --> 00:56:56,633
.

2033
00:56:56,633 --> 00:56:57,234
In response to the Planning

2034
00:56:57,234 --> 00:56:57,835
Commission's direction,

2035
00:56:57,835 --> 00:56:58,503
the Language and Housing

2036
00:56:58,503 --> 00:57:00,838
Committee was presented with

2037
00:57:00,838 --> 00:57:01,471
additional strategies to

2038
00:57:01,471 --> 00:57:01,773
further limit development

2039
00:57:01,773 --> 00:57:03,773
scale.

2040
00:57:04,576 --> 00:57:05,376
These included establishing a

2041
00:57:05,376 --> 00:57:05,977
minimum 80 home size capping

2042
00:57:05,977 --> 00:57:06,678
the number of adu homes

2043
00:57:06,678 --> 00:57:09,130
permitted per lot and reducing

2044
00:57:09,130 --> 00:57:09,713
the lawyer ratio calculation.

2045
00:57:09,713 --> 00:57:10,381
The City Planning Department

2046
00:57:10,381 --> 00:57:11,490
Development presented these

2047
00:57:11,490 --> 00:57:13,449
options for the committee's

2048
00:57:14,180 --> 00:57:14,652
consideration and ultimately

2049
00:57:14,652 --> 00:57:15,352
the committee recommended

2050
00:57:15,352 --> 00:57:17,752
limiting development scale by

2051
00:57:18,823 --> 00:57:19,524
applying a cap on the total

2052
00:57:19,524 --> 00:57:20,224
number of adu homes allowed

2053
00:57:20,224 --> 00:57:23,224
under the medium density bonus

2054
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:24,562
program.

2055
00:57:24,562 --> 00:57:25,163
In response to

2056
00:57:25,163 --> 00:57:25,763
the recommendation from

2057
00:57:25,763 --> 00:57:26,430
the Land Use and Housing

2058
00:57:26,430 --> 00:57:28,466
Committee, the City Planning

2059
00:57:28,466 --> 00:57:29,100
Department has further revised

2060
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:29,834
the proposed amendments to

2061
00:57:29,834 --> 00:57:30,535
include in addition to using an

2062
00:57:30,535 --> 00:57:33,535
adjusted lot area to calculate

2063
00:57:34,572 --> 00:57:35,272
the floor area ratio a cap on

2064
00:57:35,272 --> 00:57:38,272
the number of 80 and 80 homes

2065
00:57:38,576 --> 00:57:39,443
on single family zone lots.

2066
00:57:39,443 --> 00:57:42,213
A new option has been created

2067
00:57:42,213 --> 00:57:43,181
incorporating a maximum cap of

2068
00:57:43,181 --> 00:57:43,815
4 to 7 Adu and jd Homes based

2069
00:57:43,815 --> 00:57:47,415
on the lot area for single

2070
00:57:47,452 --> 00:57:48,119
family zone Lot.

2071
00:57:48,119 --> 00:57:48,620
As shown in this table.

2072
00:57:48,620 --> 00:57:50,620
Please note that

2073
00:57:51,189 --> 00:57:51,890
the clarification was made and

2074
00:57:51,890 --> 00:57:52,589
the JUNE 13th crux Remember to

2075
00:57:52,589 --> 00:57:53,324
ensure that if a lot contains

2076
00:57:53,324 --> 00:57:55,324
environmentally sensitive lands

2077
00:57:56,594 --> 00:57:57,128
the lot area shall be

2078
00:57:57,128 --> 00:57:57,695
determined based on

2079
00:57:57,695 --> 00:57:58,329
the developable area.

2080
00:57:58,329 --> 00:57:58,963
As an alternative the City

2081
00:57:58,963 --> 00:58:01,963
Council could also adopt a

2082
00:58:03,668 --> 00:58:04,369
different unit cap.

2083
00:58:04,369 --> 00:58:05,690
The City Planning Department

2084
00:58:05,690 --> 00:58:05,703
would also like to provide an

2085
00:58:05,703 --> 00:58:06,104
additional enhancement to

2086
00:58:06,104 --> 00:58:08,104
the program.

2087
00:58:08,973 --> 00:58:09,674
The medium density bonus

2088
00:58:09,674 --> 00:58:10,342
program currently requires one

2089
00:58:10,342 --> 00:58:13,342
deed restricted adu home for

2090
00:58:14,212 --> 00:58:14,946
each bonus Adu home deed

2091
00:58:14,946 --> 00:58:15,647
restrictions must last at least

2092
00:58:15,647 --> 00:58:18,647
ten years for those restricted

2093
00:58:18,716 --> 00:58:19,417
to very low income or low

2094
00:58:19,417 --> 00:58:20,180
income households and 15 years

2095
00:58:20,180 --> 00:58:20,685
for those restricted to

2096
00:58:20,685 --> 00:58:22,685
moderate income households.

2097
00:58:24,723 --> 00:58:25,389
Based on the Senior Housing

2098
00:58:25,389 --> 00:58:25,990
Commission's income and rate

2099
00:58:25,990 --> 00:58:27,990
calculations, rents for

2100
00:58:28,426 --> 00:58:29,193
moderate moderate income

2101
00:58:29,193 --> 00:58:31,563
restricted areas at 100 per 10%

2102
00:58:31,563 --> 00:58:32,530
area mirrored in median income

2103
00:58:32,530 --> 00:58:35,530
MAY closely aligned with market

2104
00:58:37,535 --> 00:58:38,269
rents.

2105
00:58:38,269 --> 00:58:39,300
Revising the area home density

2106
00:58:39,300 --> 00:58:39,637
bonus program to require all 82

2107
00:58:39,637 --> 00:58:41,439
homes to be restricted at

2108
00:58:41,439 --> 00:58:42,140
moderate incomes strengthens

2109
00:58:42,140 --> 00:58:42,707
the city's efforts to meet its

2110
00:58:42,707 --> 00:58:44,707
regional housing needs

2111
00:58:46,344 --> 00:58:47,120
Assessment goals by increasing

2112
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:47,646
the supplies of research to

2113
00:58:47,646 --> 00:58:48,312
moderate income affordable

2114
00:58:48,312 --> 00:58:50,712
housing while still allowing

2115
00:58:52,250 --> 00:58:52,950
this option to district at very

2116
00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:53,451
low or very low income for

2117
00:58:53,451 --> 00:58:55,451
market rate Adus.

2118
00:58:55,953 --> 00:58:56,588
This option would further

2119
00:58:56,588 --> 00:58:57,322
ensure that all adu homes

2120
00:58:57,322 --> 00:58:57,922
developed under the program are

2121
00:58:57,922 --> 00:59:00,322
aligned with the city's

2122
00:59:00,659 --> 00:59:01,359
affordable housing objectives

2123
00:59:01,359 --> 00:59:01,993
incentivize them production of

2124
00:59:01,993 --> 00:59:04,993
very low low and moderate

2125
00:59:05,597 --> 00:59:06,164
income adu homes and maximizing

2126
00:59:06,164 --> 00:59:06,598
the program's overall

2127
00:59:06,598 --> 00:59:08,598
effectiveness.

2128
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:10,702
Item 17 required automatic fire

2129
00:59:10,702 --> 00:59:12,702
sprinkler systems require

2130
00:59:14,500 --> 00:59:14,606
automatic fire sprinkler

2131
00:59:14,606 --> 00:59:15,272
systems for all detached

2132
00:59:15,272 --> 00:59:15,573
affordable adu and bonus adu

2133
00:59:15,573 --> 00:59:17,573
homes.

2134
00:59:18,777 --> 00:59:19,344
Similar to the requirements for

2135
00:59:19,344 --> 00:59:19,710
multiple dwelling unit

2136
00:59:19,710 --> 00:59:21,710
buildings.

2137
00:59:23,815 --> 00:59:24,449
Item 18 parking This proposed

2138
00:59:24,449 --> 00:59:25,116
amendment require one off

2139
00:59:25,116 --> 00:59:25,817
street parking fees for each

2140
00:59:25,817 --> 00:59:28,817
affordable and bonus Adu home

2141
00:59:29,253 --> 00:59:29,654
located outside of the transit

2142
00:59:29,654 --> 00:59:30,288
party area.

2143
00:59:30,288 --> 00:59:32,688
State law prohibits local

2144
00:59:32,758 --> 00:59:33,492
agencies from requiring parking

2145
00:59:33,492 --> 00:59:34,191
within a transit priority area.

2146
00:59:34,191 --> 00:59:36,191
Item 19 Deed Restriction

2147
00:59:38,263 --> 00:59:38,563
Agreements for Affordable adu

2148
00:59:38,563 --> 00:59:39,230
Homes.

2149
00:59:39,230 --> 00:59:39,964
This proposal clarifies that

2150
00:59:39,964 --> 00:59:42,364
the necessary written agreement

2151
00:59:43,568 --> 00:59:44,135
between the applicant and

2152
00:59:44,135 --> 00:59:44,835
the San Diego Housing

2153
00:59:44,835 --> 00:59:45,503
Commission along with the deed

2154
00:59:45,503 --> 00:59:48,473
of trust for each affordable

2155
00:59:48,473 --> 00:59:49,740
adu must be fully executed

2156
00:59:49,740 --> 00:59:52,740
prior to the issuance of

2157
00:59:52,844 --> 00:59:53,412
the first building permit.

2158
00:59:53,412 --> 00:59:54,120
Item 20 clarifies that

2159
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:54,546
affordable ada homes and

2160
00:59:54,546 --> 00:59:56,546
accessible ada homes

2161
00:59:57,816 --> 00:59:58,517
constructed to the program must

2162
00:59:58,517 --> 00:59:59,150
be in comparable in size and

2163
00:59:59,150 --> 01:00:02,150
include at least the same

2164
01:00:02,487 --> 01:00:02,920
number of bedrooms as the bonus

2165
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:03,855
adu homes.

2166
01:00:03,855 --> 01:00:07,455
Item 21 A.D. Home Density Bonus

2167
01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:08,227
Program Compliance increases

2168
01:00:08,227 --> 01:00:08,860
penalties for violations of

2169
01:00:08,860 --> 01:00:10,860
affordability requirements

2170
01:00:12,931 --> 01:00:13,632
under the program by imposing a

2171
01:00:13,632 --> 01:00:14,990
minimum fine of $10,000 per 80

2172
01:00:14,990 --> 01:00:16,990
home per month.

2173
01:00:16,935 --> 01:00:17,635
If an ideal home is not rented

2174
01:00:17,635 --> 01:00:17,970
to a qualified household this

2175
01:00:17,970 --> 01:00:18,636
is this.

2176
01:00:18,636 --> 01:00:21,740
This is to help ensure long

2177
01:00:21,740 --> 01:00:22,274
term compliance and preserve

2178
01:00:22,274 --> 01:00:24,274
affordable housing.

2179
01:00:26,344 --> 01:00:26,945
Item 22 establishes a community

2180
01:00:26,945 --> 01:00:27,646
enhancement fee for all

2181
01:00:27,646 --> 01:00:29,381
affordable and bonus adu homes

2182
01:00:29,381 --> 01:00:30,115
under 750ft.

2183
01:00:30,115 --> 01:00:32,515
Developed the 80 home density

2184
01:00:34,186 --> 01:00:34,853
bonus program while state law

2185
01:00:34,853 --> 01:00:35,521
prohibits development impact

2186
01:00:35,521 --> 01:00:38,521
fees for areas under 750ft.

2187
01:00:39,625 --> 01:00:40,191
This ensures that all it's

2188
01:00:40,191 --> 01:00:40,892
usable in the program

2189
01:00:40,892 --> 01:00:41,460
contribute to the neighborhood

2190
01:00:41,460 --> 01:00:43,460
infrastructure needs.

2191
01:00:44,162 --> 01:00:44,897
This would be calculated based

2192
01:00:44,897 --> 01:00:45,564
on the square footage and mere

2193
01:00:45,564 --> 01:00:47,564
existing development impact

2194
01:00:48,500 --> 01:00:49,201
fees for multifamily units.

2195
01:00:49,201 --> 01:00:49,868
In response, the Land Use and

2196
01:00:49,868 --> 01:00:50,502
Housing Commission's motion

2197
01:00:50,502 --> 01:00:53,372
this proposed fee has been

2198
01:00:53,372 --> 01:00:53,906
revised to incentivize

2199
01:00:53,906 --> 01:00:54,539
affordable homes and

2200
01:00:54,539 --> 01:00:54,872
affirmatively further for

2201
01:00:54,872 --> 01:00:56,872
housing.

2202
01:00:58,377 --> 01:00:58,944
Deed restrictive very low

2203
01:00:58,944 --> 01:00:59,644
income and low income

2204
01:00:59,644 --> 01:01:02,581
affordable ada homes that are

2205
01:01:02,581 --> 01:01:03,314
located within areas identified

2206
01:01:03,314 --> 01:01:04,490
as moderate, high or very high.

2207
01:01:04,490 --> 01:01:06,449
Tax Court Allocation Committee

2208
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:08,420
Opportunity areas would be

2209
01:01:08,420 --> 01:01:09,210
exempt from paying

2210
01:01:09,210 --> 01:01:11,210
the Affordable Community

2211
01:01:11,489 --> 01:01:12,291
Enhancement fee.

2212
01:01:12,291 --> 01:01:13,580
In addition, an amendment was

2213
01:01:13,580 --> 01:01:15,994
included in the Correction memo

2214
01:01:15,994 --> 01:01:16,695
dated JUNE 13th to specify that

2215
01:01:16,695 --> 01:01:17,329
these funds would be allocated

2216
01:01:17,329 --> 01:01:19,329
for neighborhood enhancing

2217
01:01:20,699 --> 01:01:21,299
improvements and services

2218
01:01:21,299 --> 01:01:21,900
solely in communities of

2219
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:22,568
concern to ensure these

2220
01:01:22,568 --> 01:01:24,568
communities directly benefit

2221
01:01:25,437 --> 01:01:26,171
from the development of at home

2222
01:01:26,171 --> 01:01:28,571
density bonus program projects.

2223
01:01:30,576 --> 01:01:31,243
Item 24 is a clarification to

2224
01:01:31,243 --> 01:01:31,710
the Sustainable Development

2225
01:01:31,710 --> 01:01:32,344
Area definition.

2226
01:01:32,344 --> 01:01:34,744
The 80 Home Density Bonus

2227
01:01:35,681 --> 01:01:36,415
program allows for additional

2228
01:01:36,415 --> 01:01:36,915
80 homes within the sustainable

2229
01:01:36,915 --> 01:01:38,915
development area.

2230
01:01:39,217 --> 01:01:39,885
Missile Code defines a

2231
01:01:39,885 --> 01:01:40,519
sustainable development area

2232
01:01:40,519 --> 01:01:41,186
based on a defined walking

2233
01:01:41,186 --> 01:01:43,586
distance along a pedestrian

2234
01:01:44,290 --> 01:01:44,723
path a travel to a major

2235
01:01:44,723 --> 01:01:45,457
transit stop.

2236
01:01:45,457 --> 01:01:46,125
This proposed amendment further

2237
01:01:46,125 --> 01:01:47,993
clarifies the City Planning

2238
01:01:47,993 --> 01:01:48,793
Department's interpretation

2239
01:01:48,793 --> 01:01:51,793
that the pedestrian path of

2240
01:01:53,310 --> 01:01:53,332
travel must include a sidewalk

2241
01:01:53,332 --> 01:01:53,933
.

2242
01:01:53,933 --> 01:01:54,533
Information was shared a

2243
01:01:54,533 --> 01:01:55,100
memorandum from the City

2244
01:01:55,100 --> 01:01:56,835
Planning Department to

2245
01:01:56,835 --> 01:01:57,603
the Community Planners

2246
01:01:57,603 --> 01:01:58,303
Committee on MARCH 21st 2025 to

2247
01:01:58,303 --> 01:02:00,303
facilitate discussions related

2248
01:02:02,106 --> 01:02:02,541
to the recommendation from

2249
01:02:02,541 --> 01:02:03,275
the committee.

2250
01:02:03,275 --> 01:02:03,943
Additionally, the City Planning

2251
01:02:03,943 --> 01:02:05,943
Department accepted feedback

2252
01:02:06,345 --> 01:02:06,946
from community members and

2253
01:02:06,946 --> 01:02:07,481
stakeholders throughout

2254
01:02:07,481 --> 01:02:09,481
the hearing process.

2255
01:02:10,749 --> 01:02:11,316
On APRIL 22nd, 2025

2256
01:02:11,316 --> 01:02:11,817
the Community Planners

2257
01:02:11,817 --> 01:02:12,451
Committee approved

2258
01:02:12,451 --> 01:02:14,851
the following two motions.

2259
01:02:15,854 --> 01:02:16,622
Motion one.

2260
01:02:16,622 --> 01:02:17,256
Approve changes to all rc zones

2261
01:02:17,256 --> 01:02:17,589
and there are a submission

2262
01:02:17,589 --> 01:02:19,589
matrix.

2263
01:02:20,826 --> 01:02:21,930
This motion was approved 21

2264
01:02:21,930 --> 01:02:23,930
220.

2265
01:02:24,697 --> 01:02:25,430
Motion to approve their

2266
01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:26,131
proposal Number three for armed

2267
01:02:26,131 --> 01:02:29,101
zones to allow two city bonus

2268
01:02:29,101 --> 01:02:29,802
affordable adas on every r r m

2269
01:02:29,802 --> 01:02:30,569
lot if allowed by the f r.

2270
01:02:30,569 --> 01:02:33,569
Excluded from the city bonus

2271
01:02:33,972 --> 01:02:34,673
Affordable adu program would be

2272
01:02:34,673 --> 01:02:35,307
lots that have maxed out or

2273
01:02:35,307 --> 01:02:35,808
even overbuilt their unit

2274
01:02:35,808 --> 01:02:37,808
density allowance.

2275
01:02:39,244 --> 01:02:39,945
These lots among all others

2276
01:02:39,945 --> 01:02:40,713
would still allow city to use

2277
01:02:40,713 --> 01:02:43,713
up to eight approval including

2278
01:02:44,383 --> 01:02:44,716
recommendation in the arms own

2279
01:02:44,716 --> 01:02:46,716
matrix.

2280
01:02:46,785 --> 01:02:47,860
This motion was approved 21

2281
01:02:47,860 --> 01:02:47,852
2022.

2282
01:02:47,852 --> 01:02:50,252
The City Planning Department

2283
01:02:52,258 --> 01:02:52,925
submitted the draft amendments

2284
01:02:52,925 --> 01:02:53,625
The California Department of

2285
01:02:53,625 --> 01:02:55,625
Housing Community Development

2286
01:02:56,429 --> 01:02:57,129
for review on APRIL 25th, 2025

2287
01:02:57,129 --> 01:03:00,129
in response to the housing

2288
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:01,833
the city's initial comments

2289
01:03:01,833 --> 01:03:02,134
were received on MAY 30th,

2290
01:03:02,134 --> 01:03:02,834
2025.

2291
01:03:02,834 --> 01:03:05,234
The proposed regulations were

2292
01:03:06,772 --> 01:03:07,406
revised to address concerns

2293
01:03:07,406 --> 01:03:07,773
related to fire safety and

2294
01:03:07,773 --> 01:03:09,773
setbacks.

2295
01:03:11,110 --> 01:03:11,811
Although hpd did not inform

2296
01:03:11,811 --> 01:03:12,511
city planning that they had

2297
01:03:12,511 --> 01:03:13,178
further comments, a subsequent

2298
01:03:13,178 --> 01:03:16,178
response from each city was

2299
01:03:16,682 --> 01:03:17,349
received on JUNE 13, 2025.

2300
01:03:17,349 --> 01:03:20,349
Staff has since provided a

2301
01:03:20,552 --> 01:03:21,187
followup response which was

2302
01:03:21,187 --> 01:03:21,854
the distribute to the City

2303
01:03:21,854 --> 01:03:24,254
Council on JUNE 14th, 2025.

2304
01:03:25,790 --> 01:03:26,425
The final ordinance will be

2305
01:03:26,425 --> 01:03:27,590
submitted to each city for

2306
01:03:27,590 --> 01:03:27,793
formal review and the City

2307
01:03:27,793 --> 01:03:30,193
Planning Department will submit

2308
01:03:31,263 --> 01:03:31,863
a formal response to it by

2309
01:03:31,863 --> 01:03:32,565
the requested deadline.

2310
01:03:32,565 --> 01:03:35,565
City planning will continue to

2311
01:03:36,135 --> 01:03:36,869
coordinate with each city to

2312
01:03:36,869 --> 01:03:37,469
ensure consistency with housing

2313
01:03:37,469 --> 01:03:38,103
element requirements and

2314
01:03:38,103 --> 01:03:40,600
maintain compliance moving

2315
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:40,673
forward.

2316
01:03:40,673 --> 01:03:41,373
Staff's recommendation is to

2317
01:03:41,373 --> 01:03:43,773
adopt a resolution determining

2318
01:03:45,544 --> 01:03:46,245
that the approval of the 80 and

2319
01:03:46,245 --> 01:03:46,845
80 regular amendments the City

2320
01:03:46,845 --> 01:03:49,245
Municipal Code and Local

2321
01:03:50,490 --> 01:03:50,583
Coastal Program Amendment are

2322
01:03:50,583 --> 01:03:51,250
category exempt from

2323
01:03:51,250 --> 01:03:51,884
the California Environmental

2324
01:03:51,884 --> 01:03:54,284
Quality Act under article

2325
01:03:55,354 --> 01:03:55,754
guideline sections 15282 each

2326
01:03:55,754 --> 01:03:57,754
and 15332.

2327
01:03:59,258 --> 01:03:59,959
Number two is to adopt an

2328
01:03:59,959 --> 01:04:00,593
ordinance amending the ada and

2329
01:04:00,593 --> 01:04:03,950
jd Regulations in the City

2330
01:04:03,950 --> 01:04:03,762
Municipal Code and local

2331
01:04:03,762 --> 01:04:04,429
coastal program Number three

2332
01:04:04,429 --> 01:04:05,970
adopt a resolution approving

2333
01:04:05,970 --> 01:04:07,497
the 80 Home density program

2334
01:04:08,468 --> 01:04:09,434
Community Enhancement Fee.

2335
01:04:09,434 --> 01:04:09,835
>> Thank you very much for your

2336
01:04:09,835 --> 01:04:10,403
time today.

2337
01:04:10,403 --> 01:04:12,403
This concludes Stat's

2338
01:04:13,539 --> 01:04:13,939
presentation.

2339
01:04:13,939 --> 01:04:14,540
Thank you.

2340
01:04:14,540 --> 01:04:15,241
There's a pretty intense

2341
01:04:15,241 --> 01:04:17,943
presentation there but you did

2342
01:04:17,943 --> 01:04:18,643
a great job so thank you very

2343
01:04:18,643 --> 01:04:19,311
much for walking through every

2344
01:04:19,311 --> 01:04:19,712
element of the ordinance in

2345
01:04:19,712 --> 01:04:21,712
front of us.

2346
01:04:23,114 --> 01:04:23,816
So with that city clerk let us

2347
01:04:23,816 --> 01:04:26,816
know how many public comments

2348
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:27,386
we have and then please

2349
01:04:27,386 --> 01:04:27,820
proceed.

2350
01:04:27,820 --> 01:04:28,321
>> Thank you.

2351
01:04:28,321 --> 01:04:30,321
Council PRESIDENT.

2352
01:04:31,156 --> 01:04:32,240
We currently have 196 speakers

2353
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,624
here in council chambers and we

2354
01:04:36,162 --> 01:04:36,729
have about eight people with

2355
01:04:36,729 --> 01:04:37,263
their hands raised in

2356
01:04:37,263 --> 01:04:37,664
the virtual queue at

2357
01:04:37,664 --> 01:04:39,664
the moment.

2358
01:04:40,900 --> 01:04:41,768
That of course can increase

2359
01:04:41,768 --> 01:04:42,502
when I call your name if you

2360
01:04:42,502 --> 01:04:43,101
can please come up to the front

2361
01:04:43,101 --> 01:04:45,501
yellow reserved seats at

2362
01:04:46,372 --> 01:04:47,730
the front of the room.

2363
01:04:47,730 --> 01:04:47,673
I'd really appreciate it Help

2364
01:04:47,673 --> 01:04:48,374
with meeting management.

2365
01:04:48,374 --> 01:04:51,677
And just as a reminder of

2366
01:04:51,677 --> 01:04:52,378
course the council PRESIDENT

2367
01:04:52,378 --> 01:04:52,978
Said you know, wave your hands

2368
01:04:52,978 --> 01:04:55,614
or do your thumbs down.

2369
01:04:55,614 --> 01:04:55,948
I'll call the first five

2370
01:04:55,948 --> 01:04:56,683
people.

2371
01:04:56,683 --> 01:04:57,150
The first person can come up to

2372
01:04:57,150 --> 01:04:59,150
the microphone.

2373
01:05:00,786 --> 01:05:01,553
Lisa Jang.

2374
01:05:01,553 --> 01:05:02,121
Janet, if you can please come

2375
01:05:02,121 --> 01:05:04,521
up to the microphone.

2376
01:05:05,825 --> 01:05:06,492
After that will be Bruce, Judy

2377
01:05:06,492 --> 01:05:08,892
Mitchell, Larry Webb, Dennis

2378
01:05:10,864 --> 01:05:11,196
Lynch, Nina Smullen and Shane

2379
01:05:11,196 --> 01:05:12,300
Harris.

2380
01:05:12,300 --> 01:05:16,200
If you can all please come up

2381
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:16,369
to the yellow reserved seats at

2382
01:05:16,369 --> 01:05:17,700
the front.

2383
01:05:17,700 --> 01:05:17,770
And Lisa, you'll be our first

2384
01:05:17,770 --> 01:05:21,173
speaker due to the amount of

2385
01:05:21,173 --> 01:05:21,473
speakers It will be a minute

2386
01:05:21,473 --> 01:05:23,473
each.

2387
01:05:24,978 --> 01:05:27,378
>> Please proceed when ready.

2388
01:05:29,949 --> 01:05:30,416
Good afternoon.

2389
01:05:30,416 --> 01:05:32,416
Good afternoon.

2390
01:05:35,421 --> 01:05:36,210
My neighbor burnt up alive in

2391
01:05:36,210 --> 01:05:38,421
the San Diego wildfires.

2392
01:05:40,827 --> 01:05:44,427
Yet b via bonus edu programs

2393
01:05:44,698 --> 01:05:48,298
allow dance develop at mit in

2394
01:05:49,234 --> 01:05:50,270
very high fire hazard zones and

2395
01:05:50,270 --> 01:05:53,870
cul de sac with no secondary

2396
01:05:54,741 --> 01:05:55,441
access.

2397
01:05:55,441 --> 01:05:58,441
Recent L.A. Fires devastation

2398
01:05:58,511 --> 01:05:59,179
with the flames swirling around

2399
01:05:59,179 --> 01:05:59,779
and everywhere and residents

2400
01:05:59,779 --> 01:06:02,179
can't evacuate and first

2401
01:06:03,950 --> 01:06:05,170
responders can't get in.

2402
01:06:05,170 --> 01:06:09,550
There's no time to get us out

2403
01:06:09,550 --> 01:06:11,550
safe.

2404
01:06:12,926 --> 01:06:15,326
At 2925 through 2939 Cowley Way

2405
01:06:17,263 --> 01:06:17,997
we're checking Canyon is a

2406
01:06:17,997 --> 01:06:20,997
ticking time bomb of overgrowth

2407
01:06:22,102 --> 01:06:22,602
reform and safety before

2408
01:06:22,602 --> 01:06:24,602
developers profit.

2409
01:06:27,307 --> 01:06:28,108
>> Please, please council

2410
01:06:28,108 --> 01:06:28,508
members, I beg you to help

2411
01:06:28,508 --> 01:06:30,476
protect us.

2412
01:06:30,476 --> 01:06:31,760
>> Thank you.

2413
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,760
>> Thank you.

2414
01:06:35,682 --> 01:06:37,682
Bruce Coombs.

2415
01:06:39,919 --> 01:06:40,387
Good afternoon.

2416
01:06:40,387 --> 01:06:41,530
Good afternoon.

2417
01:06:41,530 --> 01:06:44,530
Members of the council staff

2418
01:06:45,591 --> 01:06:47,991
and the city Attorney.

2419
01:06:50,864 --> 01:06:51,564
Bruce, Executive Director.

2420
01:06:51,564 --> 01:06:52,232
Save our Heritage organization

2421
01:06:52,232 --> 01:06:55,232
and remain supportive of And

2422
01:06:55,735 --> 01:06:59,935
they are as 1-7 zone of a

2423
01:07:01,308 --> 01:07:02,800
single junior aid to you and a

2424
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,608
single regular aide to you And

2425
01:07:06,346 --> 01:07:07,280
we could support a possible

2426
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,849
bonus 80 you if it is deed

2427
01:07:09,849 --> 01:07:10,716
restricted for 55 years.

2428
01:07:10,716 --> 01:07:13,716
The rents were below market

2429
01:07:15,540 --> 01:07:15,755
much lower than what we've

2430
01:07:15,755 --> 01:07:19,355
talked about in the past here

2431
01:07:20,930 --> 01:07:20,860
And rent control But that is

2432
01:07:20,860 --> 01:07:24,364
all we should think we could

2433
01:07:24,364 --> 01:07:24,731
support in this and historic

2434
01:07:24,731 --> 01:07:26,731
districts.

2435
01:07:28,168 --> 01:07:28,768
So that's a total of four units

2436
01:07:28,768 --> 01:07:30,300
where the existing unit.

2437
01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:32,300
Thank you.

2438
01:07:35,375 --> 01:07:35,875
>> Thank you, Judy.

2439
01:07:35,875 --> 01:07:37,875
>> Good afternoon.

2440
01:07:40,647 --> 01:07:41,348
My name is Judy Mitchell and

2441
01:07:41,348 --> 01:07:41,948
I'm a board member of the Sara

2442
01:07:41,948 --> 01:07:43,948
mesa Community Council.

2443
01:07:45,685 --> 01:07:46,352
I'm here representing other

2444
01:07:46,352 --> 01:07:49,352
members of the community to

2445
01:07:49,422 --> 01:07:50,123
please ask the council to

2446
01:07:50,123 --> 01:07:50,824
consider some restrictions on

2447
01:07:50,824 --> 01:07:53,824
the development that has grown

2448
01:07:55,362 --> 01:07:56,290
out of the original idea of 80

2449
01:07:56,290 --> 01:07:56,696
use that we thought would be

2450
01:07:56,696 --> 01:07:59,696
something good for the city.

2451
01:08:00,300 --> 01:08:01,100
i'm wearing my City Connect

2452
01:08:01,100 --> 01:08:01,668
Padre shirt like I did at

2453
01:08:01,668 --> 01:08:04,668
the planning group because I

2454
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:05,705
want everyone to remember we're

2455
01:08:05,705 --> 01:08:06,239
all in this together.

2456
01:08:06,239 --> 01:08:08,639
We need to connect.

2457
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:10,711
We need to come to something in

2458
01:08:10,711 --> 01:08:11,144
terms of agreement that will

2459
01:08:11,144 --> 01:08:12,450
help the city.

2460
01:08:12,450 --> 01:08:15,649
We all know we need housing but

2461
01:08:15,649 --> 01:08:16,383
apartment buildings in our

2462
01:08:16,383 --> 01:08:17,830
backyards not being able to get

2463
01:08:17,830 --> 01:08:20,487
out of our driveways can't put

2464
01:08:20,487 --> 01:08:21,188
our trash cans down.

2465
01:08:21,188 --> 01:08:21,521
It's gotten completely out of

2466
01:08:21,521 --> 01:08:23,521
control.

2467
01:08:25,425 --> 01:08:26,920
There are things that we cannot

2468
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:26,893
control in our lives like

2469
01:08:26,893 --> 01:08:29,830
Dodger fans slithering into our

2470
01:08:29,830 --> 01:08:30,596
stadiums.

2471
01:08:30,596 --> 01:08:31,265
>> But the city council does

2472
01:08:31,265 --> 01:08:34,865
have the ability to help us

2473
01:08:34,868 --> 01:08:35,669
vote to get some restrictions

2474
01:08:35,669 --> 01:08:36,303
like height and number of unit

2475
01:08:36,303 --> 01:08:38,138
limits on these 80 years.

2476
01:08:38,138 --> 01:08:40,138
>> Thank you, Larry.

2477
01:08:44,544 --> 01:08:45,311
>> We're Larry Webb Other year

2478
01:08:45,311 --> 01:08:46,460
you have Time City to you by

2479
01:08:46,460 --> 01:08:48,446
Catherine Douglass Please raise

2480
01:08:48,749 --> 01:08:49,383
your hand and the thank you

2481
01:08:49,383 --> 01:08:51,783
You'll have three minutes

2482
01:08:51,919 --> 01:08:52,686
Please raise some pictures can

2483
01:08:52,686 --> 01:08:56,286
be distributed to come My staff

2484
01:08:56,757 --> 01:08:57,570
will come and get it right now

2485
01:08:57,570 --> 01:08:57,457
.

2486
01:08:57,457 --> 01:08:58,191
Thank you.

2487
01:08:58,191 --> 01:08:58,892
Council members Larry Webb with

2488
01:08:58,892 --> 01:09:01,292
Mission Beach Precise Planning

2489
01:09:02,290 --> 01:09:02,696
board in our APRIL meeting

2490
01:09:02,696 --> 01:09:03,396
the board voted to recommend

2491
01:09:03,396 --> 01:09:06,133
the city not allow a use of

2492
01:09:06,133 --> 01:09:06,933
Mission Beach.

2493
01:09:06,933 --> 01:09:07,668
A letter substantiating that

2494
01:09:07,668 --> 01:09:10,668
recommendation was sent to each

2495
01:09:11,304 --> 01:09:12,390
of your offices and we have met

2496
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:12,739
with staff from several council

2497
01:09:12,739 --> 01:09:15,739
officers State Adu law allows

2498
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:17,677
been anthropologie's to exclude

2499
01:09:17,677 --> 01:09:20,770
ideas from certain areas.

2500
01:09:20,447 --> 01:09:21,114
Findings can be made that not

2501
01:09:21,114 --> 01:09:21,715
enforcing the mission beach

2502
01:09:21,715 --> 01:09:22,315
Plan district ordinance

2503
01:09:22,315 --> 01:09:24,715
requirements will have a

2504
01:09:25,819 --> 01:09:26,486
substantial negative impact on

2505
01:09:26,486 --> 01:09:27,870
Mission Beach Since Mission

2506
01:09:27,870 --> 01:09:30,870
Beach is heavily used by

2507
01:09:30,858 --> 01:09:31,557
constituents from each of your

2508
01:09:31,557 --> 01:09:34,557
districts a negative impact on

2509
01:09:35,896 --> 01:09:36,596
the city as a whole.

2510
01:09:36,596 --> 01:09:37,330
Those pictures will show what

2511
01:09:37,330 --> 01:09:40,768
traffic is like for your people

2512
01:09:40,768 --> 01:09:41,335
to get in mission Beach Now

2513
01:09:41,335 --> 01:09:41,935
Mission Beach does not

2514
01:09:41,935 --> 01:09:43,935
currently meet emergency

2515
01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:46,740
ingress egress standards.

2516
01:09:46,740 --> 01:09:49,740
Public safety will further be

2517
01:09:50,377 --> 01:09:51,440
compromised by the addition of

2518
01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:51,745
80 use Findings can also be

2519
01:09:51,745 --> 01:09:55,345
made that not allowing aid to

2520
01:09:55,516 --> 01:09:56,830
use in mission Beach will have

2521
01:09:56,830 --> 01:09:56,816
no negative impact on

2522
01:09:56,816 --> 01:09:59,619
the city's ability to meet its

2523
01:09:59,619 --> 01:09:59,919
share of specified housing

2524
01:09:59,919 --> 01:10:01,919
needs.

2525
01:10:03,356 --> 01:10:04,224
Mission Beach's existing

2526
01:10:04,224 --> 01:10:04,758
density of 36 units per acre is

2527
01:10:04,758 --> 01:10:06,758
already higher than

2528
01:10:08,896 --> 01:10:09,530
the densities being achieved by

2529
01:10:09,530 --> 01:10:10,263
the density bonus program

2530
01:10:10,263 --> 01:10:13,863
allowing it to use in Mission

2531
01:10:14,100 --> 01:10:14,735
Beach will result in structures

2532
01:10:14,735 --> 01:10:17,938
that are out of compliance with

2533
01:10:17,938 --> 01:10:18,671
both Mission Beach precise plan

2534
01:10:18,671 --> 01:10:19,239
and Plan District ordinance An

2535
01:10:19,239 --> 01:10:21,239
important strategy of

2536
01:10:22,910 --> 01:10:23,711
the city's coastal resilience

2537
01:10:23,711 --> 01:10:27,311
Master plan is to realign or

2538
01:10:28,148 --> 01:10:28,882
relocate assets out of hazard

2539
01:10:28,882 --> 01:10:29,416
areas and limit new development

2540
01:10:29,416 --> 01:10:31,416
in vulnerable areas.

2541
01:10:33,353 --> 01:10:34,880
Given this topography, Mission

2542
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,357
Beach is most vulnerable to sea

2543
01:10:37,357 --> 01:10:38,580
level rise in the city Sea

2544
01:10:38,580 --> 01:10:38,726
level rise policy guidance is

2545
01:10:38,726 --> 01:10:41,726
to be proactive and minimize

2546
01:10:42,796 --> 01:10:43,531
future risk.

2547
01:10:43,531 --> 01:10:44,970
Preventing use will intensify

2548
01:10:44,970 --> 01:10:46,497
not minimize the risk.

2549
01:10:48,202 --> 01:10:48,835
Why add 80 use to an area

2550
01:10:48,835 --> 01:10:51,835
required to have a retreat

2551
01:10:52,873 --> 01:10:53,407
relocation plan This past

2552
01:10:53,407 --> 01:10:54,108
Thursday the Coastal

2553
01:10:54,108 --> 01:10:57,108
Commission, based on the most

2554
01:10:58,378 --> 01:10:59,130
recent local coastal plan ruled

2555
01:10:59,130 --> 01:10:59,713
that a proposed project on

2556
01:10:59,713 --> 01:11:02,249
Ocean Front walk will be have

2557
01:11:02,249 --> 01:11:02,950
to be placed on six foot

2558
01:11:02,950 --> 01:11:05,950
pillars because of future sea

2559
01:11:07,254 --> 01:11:07,988
level rise that reduces

2560
01:11:07,988 --> 01:11:10,988
the maximum possible density of

2561
01:11:11,625 --> 01:11:12,426
that lot from three units to

2562
01:11:12,426 --> 01:11:15,426
two units The Coastal Act

2563
01:11:15,830 --> 01:11:16,496
section 30213 states that lower

2564
01:11:16,496 --> 01:11:17,640
cost visitor and recreation

2565
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,640
developments should be

2566
01:11:21,168 --> 01:11:21,869
protected and encouraged They

2567
01:11:21,869 --> 01:11:25,469
use is the lowest cost access

2568
01:11:26,306 --> 01:11:26,741
to the beach for all of your

2569
01:11:26,741 --> 01:11:27,274
constituents.

2570
01:11:27,274 --> 01:11:27,941
The mission beach is

2571
01:11:27,941 --> 01:11:30,941
the highest demand They use

2572
01:11:31,312 --> 01:11:31,945
beach in San Diego is also most

2573
01:11:31,945 --> 01:11:33,945
parking constrained beach

2574
01:11:36,830 --> 01:11:36,783
making street parking in public

2575
01:11:36,783 --> 01:11:39,783
parking lots an important low

2576
01:11:41,188 --> 01:11:41,822
cost resource for coastal

2577
01:11:41,822 --> 01:11:44,222
access permitting aid use

2578
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:45,693
reduced or no parking reduces

2579
01:11:45,693 --> 01:11:46,940
ignores the needs of

2580
01:11:46,940 --> 01:11:46,760
the people.

2581
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,760
Section 3o213 is designed to

2582
01:11:50,865 --> 01:11:51,331
protect but not protecting

2583
01:11:51,331 --> 01:11:52,990
public parking.

2584
01:11:52,990 --> 01:11:55,699
There is no evidence that Adu

2585
01:11:56,700 --> 01:11:56,670
residents do not have cars

2586
01:11:56,670 --> 01:11:58,670
Beach Consider our

2587
01:11:59,607 --> 01:12:00,441
recommendation.

2588
01:12:00,441 --> 01:12:03,441
>> Dennis Lynch Dennis you have

2589
01:12:04,979 --> 01:12:05,680
time to buy Gloria Hanser

2590
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:06,447
Gloria please raise your hand.

2591
01:12:06,447 --> 01:12:09,949
Thank you And Steve Great Thank

2592
01:12:09,949 --> 01:12:10,518
you very much.

2593
01:12:10,518 --> 01:12:11,251
Dennis Thank you for

2594
01:12:11,251 --> 01:12:14,251
the opportunity to speak today.

2595
01:12:15,188 --> 01:12:15,856
Dennis Lynch a native of

2596
01:12:15,856 --> 01:12:16,523
Mission Beach on the Mission

2597
01:12:16,523 --> 01:12:17,991
Beach Precise Planning Board

2598
01:12:17,991 --> 01:12:21,591
which I am speaking for member

2599
01:12:23,197 --> 01:12:23,931
for 45 years minus two.

2600
01:12:23,931 --> 01:12:24,665
Let me say at the beginning

2601
01:12:24,665 --> 01:12:27,665
that we're requesting that we

2602
01:12:28,335 --> 01:12:28,702
be excluded for density

2603
01:12:28,702 --> 01:12:29,236
purposes.

2604
01:12:29,236 --> 01:12:32,236
I want to give you

2605
01:12:33,574 --> 01:12:34,174
the beginning and the end of my

2606
01:12:34,174 --> 01:12:34,908
speech and then fill in

2607
01:12:34,908 --> 01:12:37,344
the middle because I'm sure I'm

2608
01:12:37,344 --> 01:12:37,744
going to run out of time at

2609
01:12:37,744 --> 01:12:38,413
the outset.

2610
01:12:38,413 --> 01:12:39,112
You all know I'm sure that

2611
01:12:39,112 --> 01:12:42,112
Mission Beach has the highest

2612
01:12:42,783 --> 01:12:43,217
density of all the communities

2613
01:12:43,217 --> 01:12:45,217
in San Diego.

2614
01:12:47,354 --> 01:12:47,989
Are you also aware that it has

2615
01:12:47,989 --> 01:12:48,723
the highest density of any

2616
01:12:48,723 --> 01:12:51,658
beach community on the coast of

2617
01:12:51,658 --> 01:12:52,527
California?

2618
01:12:52,527 --> 01:12:56,727
Are you also aware that it has

2619
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:57,732
a higher density than the 17

2620
01:12:57,732 --> 01:12:58,599
unit project at the end of

2621
01:12:58,599 --> 01:13:02,570
the cul de sac than a mile

2622
01:13:02,570 --> 01:13:05,570
Avenue So we're there without

2623
01:13:07,208 --> 01:13:07,842
Addus mission Beach is a

2624
01:13:07,842 --> 01:13:08,142
playground for much of San

2625
01:13:08,142 --> 01:13:10,142
Diego.

2626
01:13:12,246 --> 01:13:12,880
I would guess everybody in

2627
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:13,614
the council has people who

2628
01:13:13,614 --> 01:13:16,614
visit Mission Beach on a

2629
01:13:17,317 --> 01:13:18,850
regular basis.

2630
01:13:18,850 --> 01:13:21,685
The draw is both local with

2631
01:13:22,623 --> 01:13:23,191
Belmont Park and just the fact

2632
01:13:23,191 --> 01:13:23,891
that it's got ocean on

2633
01:13:23,891 --> 01:13:26,461
the front and bays on the back

2634
01:13:26,461 --> 01:13:26,794
were an integral part of

2635
01:13:26,794 --> 01:13:28,794
mission.

2636
01:13:31,198 --> 01:13:31,866
Bay Park which is the largest

2637
01:13:31,866 --> 01:13:34,866
aquatic park in the nation.

2638
01:13:36,871 --> 01:13:37,538
We also have national venues

2639
01:13:37,538 --> 01:13:39,938
and international venues for

2640
01:13:41,609 --> 01:13:42,310
recreational and athletic

2641
01:13:42,310 --> 01:13:45,910
events were on the map for

2642
01:13:46,847 --> 01:13:47,515
people were a place to go.

2643
01:13:47,515 --> 01:13:48,149
We've always had crowd in

2644
01:13:48,149 --> 01:13:48,849
getting into development.

2645
01:13:48,849 --> 01:13:51,185
We've always had crowding and

2646
01:13:51,185 --> 01:13:51,952
parking problems in Mission

2647
01:13:51,952 --> 01:13:56,152
Beach ever since I was a kid

2648
01:13:56,391 --> 01:13:56,991
and we in 1979 developed

2649
01:13:56,991 --> 01:13:59,391
the first Plan District

2650
01:14:00,962 --> 01:14:01,663
coordinates in San Diego that

2651
01:14:01,663 --> 01:14:04,663
went into effect with parking

2652
01:14:06,367 --> 01:14:06,767
requirements for every unit but

2653
01:14:06,767 --> 01:14:08,767
least two.

2654
01:14:11,372 --> 01:14:12,173
We have two basic lot sizes in

2655
01:14:12,173 --> 01:14:15,173
Mission Beach we have a 1200

2656
01:14:15,276 --> 01:14:16,143
and 50ft in residential north

2657
01:14:16,143 --> 01:14:16,444
which is Santa Clara up to pb

2658
01:14:16,444 --> 01:14:18,444
Drive.

2659
01:14:19,847 --> 01:14:20,548
We have 20 400 square foot lots

2660
01:14:20,548 --> 01:14:24,148
from Santa Clara drive down to

2661
01:14:24,686 --> 01:14:25,352
the jetty in South Mission in

2662
01:14:25,352 --> 01:14:28,352
comparison a lot and Pacific

2663
01:14:29,824 --> 01:14:30,792
Beach is basically 5 or 6000ft

2664
01:14:30,792 --> 01:14:34,992
with these small lots we put on

2665
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:38,832
to units under 24 by 80s from

2666
01:14:38,832 --> 01:14:39,500
Santa Clara and a mandatory

2667
01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:42,500
four parking spaces are set

2668
01:14:43,872 --> 01:14:44,572
setbacks or most normally three

2669
01:14:44,572 --> 01:14:47,509
feet so the distance between

2670
01:14:47,509 --> 01:14:50,911
houses are six feet If they go

2671
01:14:50,911 --> 01:14:51,779
up 20ft and they have to have a

2672
01:14:51,779 --> 01:14:55,379
five foot setback, we have no

2673
01:14:56,316 --> 01:14:56,751
room for additional units in

2674
01:14:56,751 --> 01:14:57,352
Mission Beach.

2675
01:14:57,352 --> 01:14:59,752
We're already maxed out.

2676
01:15:01,155 --> 01:15:01,856
We're doing the best that we

2677
01:15:01,856 --> 01:15:02,490
can And even though we

2678
01:15:02,490 --> 01:15:04,490
developed a redevelopment

2679
01:15:05,593 --> 01:15:06,161
program that required a lot of

2680
01:15:06,161 --> 01:15:06,861
parking, we're losing

2681
01:15:06,861 --> 01:15:09,261
constantly the parking battle

2682
01:15:10,931 --> 01:15:14,531
at night people park on San

2683
01:15:15,370 --> 01:15:16,710
Diego Point Santa Clara Point

2684
01:15:16,710 --> 01:15:16,337
and your time has concluded,

2685
01:15:16,337 --> 01:15:18,337
sir.

2686
01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:21,676
>> Thank you, Minister.

2687
01:15:21,676 --> 01:15:23,676
>> Niceness melon okay.

2688
01:15:25,112 --> 01:15:26,130
You've been doing pretty good

2689
01:15:26,130 --> 01:15:29,217
but allow us to kind of get

2690
01:15:29,217 --> 01:15:29,818
through these 200 speakers that

2691
01:15:29,818 --> 01:15:30,585
are going to come up.

2692
01:15:30,585 --> 01:15:34,880
So the waving the hands is very

2693
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:34,555
effective from up here.

2694
01:15:34,555 --> 01:15:35,220
>> Thank you.

2695
01:15:35,220 --> 01:15:37,220
Good afternoon.

2696
01:15:39,462 --> 01:15:39,928
Council PRESIDENT LaCava and

2697
01:15:39,928 --> 01:15:40,562
council members.

2698
01:15:40,562 --> 01:15:43,562
My name is Nicholas Milan.

2699
01:15:43,832 --> 01:15:44,566
I'm a commercial real estate

2700
01:15:44,566 --> 01:15:45,300
broker with Majesty Real Estate

2701
01:15:45,300 --> 01:15:48,336
and I come before you today not

2702
01:15:48,336 --> 01:15:48,970
just as a professional but as

2703
01:15:48,970 --> 01:15:51,370
someone deeply invested in

2704
01:15:53,174 --> 01:15:53,808
the future livability and

2705
01:15:53,808 --> 01:15:54,642
affordability of our city.

2706
01:15:54,642 --> 01:15:57,642
>> San Diego is facing a

2707
01:15:58,347 --> 01:15:59,213
serious housing crisis.

2708
01:15:59,213 --> 01:16:01,613
We're consistently ranked among

2709
01:16:03,718 --> 01:16:04,286
the most expensive cities in

2710
01:16:04,286 --> 01:16:07,286
the nation to live in.

2711
01:16:07,722 --> 01:16:08,390
Families are being priced out.

2712
01:16:08,390 --> 01:16:09,230
Workers are commuting longer

2713
01:16:09,230 --> 01:16:11,423
distances and young people

2714
01:16:12,861 --> 01:16:13,561
can't afford to stay.

2715
01:16:13,561 --> 01:16:14,129
Limiting housing options right

2716
01:16:14,129 --> 01:16:16,529
now especially ones as

2717
01:16:18,990 --> 01:16:18,867
efficient and community

2718
01:16:18,867 --> 01:16:23,670
friendly as they use would be a

2719
01:16:23,138 --> 01:16:26,138
step in the wrong direction.

2720
01:16:26,808 --> 01:16:27,576
The 80 bonus program has

2721
01:16:27,576 --> 01:16:28,243
already proven to be one of

2722
01:16:28,243 --> 01:16:31,243
the most effective tools we

2723
01:16:32,460 --> 01:16:32,647
have for adding rental housing

2724
01:16:32,647 --> 01:16:33,348
quickly and affordably.

2725
01:16:33,348 --> 01:16:35,748
>> Programs like this increase

2726
01:16:37,385 --> 01:16:37,718
competition in the rental

2727
01:16:37,718 --> 01:16:38,286
market.

2728
01:16:38,286 --> 01:16:38,820
>> Thank you for that

2729
01:16:38,820 --> 01:16:39,153
concluding remarks.

2730
01:16:39,153 --> 01:16:41,153
Got it.

2731
01:16:42,724 --> 01:16:43,124
Yep.

2732
01:16:43,124 --> 01:16:43,525
One minute.

2733
01:16:43,525 --> 01:16:43,958
Thank you.

2734
01:16:43,958 --> 01:16:45,958
Shane Harris.

2735
01:16:46,461 --> 01:16:46,928
You have time ceded to you by

2736
01:16:46,928 --> 01:16:47,629
Donna Regalado.

2737
01:16:47,629 --> 01:16:47,997
Donna, please raise your hand.

2738
01:16:47,997 --> 01:16:49,997
Thank you.

2739
01:16:51,866 --> 01:16:52,200
And then Marty Grimm, thank you

2740
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:52,934
so much.

2741
01:16:52,934 --> 01:16:55,334
>> You'll have three minutes.

2742
01:16:56,537 --> 01:16:57,205
Please proceed.

2743
01:16:57,205 --> 01:16:57,939
>> Good afternoon, Council.

2744
01:16:57,939 --> 01:17:00,609
My name is Shane Harris and I'm

2745
01:17:00,609 --> 01:17:01,309
a resident of District three.

2746
01:17:01,309 --> 01:17:01,877
The founder of the People's

2747
01:17:01,877 --> 01:17:03,877
Association of Justice

2748
01:17:05,947 --> 01:17:06,414
Advocates and ceo of Harris

2749
01:17:06,414 --> 01:17:08,414
Communications.

2750
01:17:09,985 --> 01:17:10,752
I'm here to speak in support of

2751
01:17:10,752 --> 01:17:11,486
item 2 or 2 before you today

2752
01:17:11,486 --> 01:17:14,486
with a few requested amendments

2753
01:17:14,823 --> 01:17:15,691
on the Edu property cap.

2754
01:17:15,691 --> 01:17:19,561
I would like to thank first and

2755
01:17:19,561 --> 01:17:20,128
foremost Councilmember Foster

2756
01:17:20,128 --> 01:17:20,829
and more importantly

2757
01:17:20,829 --> 01:17:23,829
the communities of Encanto and

2758
01:17:24,866 --> 01:17:25,566
Beyond who garnered support and

2759
01:17:25,566 --> 01:17:26,201
brought together collaborative

2760
01:17:26,201 --> 01:17:28,601
efforts to champion needed

2761
01:17:30,338 --> 01:17:30,672
reforms to this adu bonus

2762
01:17:30,672 --> 01:17:32,672
program.

2763
01:17:34,977 --> 01:17:35,543
This critical item today seeks

2764
01:17:35,543 --> 01:17:36,210
to provide long needed

2765
01:17:36,210 --> 01:17:38,610
amendments to the unintended

2766
01:17:40,382 --> 01:17:40,949
consequences of the city's

2767
01:17:40,949 --> 01:17:41,616
Bonus to You program.

2768
01:17:41,616 --> 01:17:42,500
Now let's be clear The city

2769
01:17:42,500 --> 01:17:44,500
needs housing.

2770
01:17:45,654 --> 01:17:46,455
There's no way around that No

2771
01:17:46,455 --> 01:17:49,858
ifs, ands or buts about that.

2772
01:17:49,858 --> 01:17:50,592
The city and our state is

2773
01:17:50,592 --> 01:17:50,893
losing people more and more and

2774
01:17:50,893 --> 01:17:52,893
more.

2775
01:17:54,229 --> 01:17:54,930
The millennial generation my

2776
01:17:54,930 --> 01:17:57,330
generation Generation y cannot

2777
01:17:59,534 --> 01:18:00,302
afford to live in San Diego.

2778
01:18:00,302 --> 01:18:01,300
But let's also be clear about

2779
01:18:01,300 --> 01:18:04,300
another fact Just because you

2780
01:18:04,606 --> 01:18:05,240
have a housing crisis doesn't

2781
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,240
mean that you cannot just

2782
01:18:09,711 --> 01:18:10,312
continue to allow developers to

2783
01:18:10,312 --> 01:18:10,946
ransack neighborhoods by

2784
01:18:10,946 --> 01:18:12,946
stripping their character

2785
01:18:14,716 --> 01:18:15,450
killing generational wealth

2786
01:18:15,450 --> 01:18:16,510
while not providing parking and

2787
01:18:16,510 --> 01:18:18,451
not providing the needed

2788
01:18:20,550 --> 01:18:20,589
resources pertaining to

2789
01:18:20,589 --> 01:18:21,256
affordable housing.

2790
01:18:21,256 --> 01:18:24,256
The Bonus 80 You program MAY

2791
01:18:24,526 --> 01:18:25,227
have started with good

2792
01:18:25,227 --> 01:18:25,894
intentions of needing to build

2793
01:18:25,894 --> 01:18:28,894
more housing but it didn't.

2794
01:18:28,964 --> 01:18:29,665
But it did end up benefiting a

2795
01:18:29,665 --> 01:18:30,598
few developers who MAY look at

2796
01:18:30,598 --> 01:18:33,936
it as a money grab not a

2797
01:18:33,936 --> 01:18:34,602
community partnership.

2798
01:18:34,602 --> 01:18:35,303
They argued that it provides

2799
01:18:35,303 --> 01:18:37,703
more opportunities for public

2800
01:18:38,340 --> 01:18:39,410
transit yet many of these

2801
01:18:39,410 --> 01:18:42,641
properties ended up a mile and

2802
01:18:43,278 --> 01:18:43,946
more away from public transit.

2803
01:18:43,946 --> 01:18:44,712
They argued amenities yet 80

2804
01:18:44,712 --> 01:18:48,312
use have been farther away from

2805
01:18:48,417 --> 01:18:49,170
coffee shops and grocery stores

2806
01:18:49,170 --> 01:18:49,351
and the main amenity of

2807
01:18:49,351 --> 01:18:51,351
parking.

2808
01:18:53,255 --> 01:18:53,622
>> Many of them have not

2809
01:18:53,622 --> 01:18:54,189
provided.

2810
01:18:54,189 --> 01:18:54,823
My friends that is not

2811
01:18:54,823 --> 01:18:55,224
affordable housing for my

2812
01:18:55,224 --> 01:18:57,224
generation.

2813
01:18:57,593 --> 01:18:57,926
It's not strategic by any

2814
01:18:57,926 --> 01:18:58,894
stretch.

2815
01:18:58,894 --> 01:19:02,931
Today's item needs to do a few

2816
01:19:02,931 --> 01:19:03,699
things but of all things it

2817
01:19:03,699 --> 01:19:04,599
allows a cap of up to seven

2818
01:19:04,599 --> 01:19:07,336
eight to use on any given

2819
01:19:07,336 --> 01:19:08,203
property.

2820
01:19:08,203 --> 01:19:08,503
That is just ridiculous and too

2821
01:19:08,503 --> 01:19:10,503
many.

2822
01:19:12,730 --> 01:19:15,673
We can't give We can't give.

2823
01:19:17,780 --> 01:19:17,446
We can't give these folks any

2824
01:19:17,446 --> 01:19:18,179
more room.

2825
01:19:18,179 --> 01:19:20,579
>> The neighborhoods of Emerald

2826
01:19:21,583 --> 01:19:22,217
Hills and in Council mission

2827
01:19:22,217 --> 01:19:22,784
Beach and Claremont Barrio

2828
01:19:22,784 --> 01:19:25,184
Logan have had enough.

2829
01:19:26,922 --> 01:19:27,623
So we've heard the concerns and

2830
01:19:27,623 --> 01:19:28,189
I've also raised them Lack of

2831
01:19:28,189 --> 01:19:30,589
parking, the impact of

2832
01:19:32,161 --> 01:19:32,661
handicapped accessible,

2833
01:19:32,661 --> 01:19:33,329
the congestion of

2834
01:19:33,329 --> 01:19:34,290
neighborhoods, the stocking

2835
01:19:34,290 --> 01:19:36,131
stacking, the multiple any use

2836
01:19:36,131 --> 01:19:36,532
on any given property like

2837
01:19:36,532 --> 01:19:37,166
roadblocks.

2838
01:19:37,166 --> 01:19:37,866
I would like to request an

2839
01:19:37,866 --> 01:19:40,866
amendment on the floor today.

2840
01:19:41,670 --> 01:19:44,973
I'd like to request that you

2841
01:19:44,973 --> 01:19:45,908
bring forth a cap of up to four

2842
01:19:45,908 --> 01:19:50,108
a to use on any given property

2843
01:19:50,379 --> 01:19:51,447
which still goes above state's

2844
01:19:51,447 --> 01:19:54,483
to 80 you cap that is already

2845
01:19:54,483 --> 01:19:55,183
required by state law.

2846
01:19:55,183 --> 01:19:55,851
This program MAY have started

2847
01:19:55,851 --> 01:19:58,220
with good intentions but it

2848
01:19:58,220 --> 01:19:59,880
needs massive reform.

2849
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:01,488
>> Thank you for that

2850
01:20:03,526 --> 01:20:04,260
concluding comment.

2851
01:20:04,260 --> 01:20:04,960
If I can have the following

2852
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:05,661
individuals please come up to

2853
01:20:05,661 --> 01:20:08,661
the yellow reserved seats and

2854
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:09,532
Mohammed Omar please come up to

2855
01:20:09,532 --> 01:20:10,198
the microphone.

2856
01:20:10,198 --> 01:20:12,598
Mohammed Omar Jesse Schmidt.

2857
01:20:14,136 --> 01:20:17,136
Manny Ramirez Pamela Vigil and

2858
01:20:17,907 --> 01:20:18,641
tennis by chair of Chris

2859
01:20:18,641 --> 01:20:22,241
Jackson and Cesar Hevia as well

2860
01:20:22,845 --> 01:20:23,812
as Rafael Perez.

2861
01:20:23,812 --> 01:20:24,479
If you can all please come up

2862
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:25,181
to the yellow reserved seats

2863
01:20:25,181 --> 01:20:28,781
and Muhammad, you MAY come up

2864
01:20:32,922 --> 01:20:33,522
to the microphone.

2865
01:20:33,522 --> 01:20:33,856
Good afternoon, council

2866
01:20:33,856 --> 01:20:35,856
members.

2867
01:20:37,326 --> 01:20:37,659
Good afternoon, council

2868
01:20:37,659 --> 01:20:38,293
members.

2869
01:20:38,293 --> 01:20:39,610
My name is Muhammad Omar.

2870
01:20:39,610 --> 01:20:42,610
I'm with the Partnership for

2871
01:20:42,398 --> 01:20:42,765
the Advancement of New

2872
01:20:42,765 --> 01:20:43,566
Americans.

2873
01:20:43,566 --> 01:20:47,166
I'm also I'm also part of

2874
01:20:47,270 --> 01:20:47,670
the coalition for Equitable

2875
01:20:47,670 --> 01:20:48,270
Development.

2876
01:20:48,270 --> 01:20:48,871
I'm here to urge you to

2877
01:20:48,871 --> 01:20:50,871
reconsider the proposed

2878
01:20:52,808 --> 01:20:53,409
amendments and avoid further

2879
01:20:53,409 --> 01:20:55,809
disfranchize in low and

2880
01:20:57,679 --> 01:20:58,381
moderate income San Diego's San

2881
01:20:58,381 --> 01:21:01,981
Diego is not even evenly split

2882
01:21:02,218 --> 01:21:02,952
between renters and home owners

2883
01:21:02,952 --> 01:21:03,652
and we need policymakers to

2884
01:21:03,652 --> 01:21:06,520
equitably represent the unique

2885
01:21:06,822 --> 01:21:07,422
needs of renters not just those

2886
01:21:07,422 --> 01:21:09,822
of existing home owners.

2887
01:21:11,460 --> 01:21:12,261
Our letter to the City Council

2888
01:21:12,261 --> 01:21:12,862
urges the city to analyze how

2889
01:21:12,862 --> 01:21:13,462
the cumulative impact of

2890
01:21:13,462 --> 01:21:15,462
the amendments including

2891
01:21:17,330 --> 01:21:17,767
community enhancement fees

2892
01:21:17,767 --> 01:21:20,767
could inhibit the production of

2893
01:21:21,537 --> 01:21:22,271
affordable homes and home owner

2894
01:21:22,271 --> 01:21:22,905
ownership opportunities in ways

2895
01:21:22,905 --> 01:21:25,305
that fail to affirmatively

2896
01:21:25,775 --> 01:21:27,775
further fair housing.

2897
01:21:29,745 --> 01:21:30,446
Our specific concerns include

2898
01:21:30,446 --> 01:21:31,130
losing 24% of the developable

2899
01:21:31,130 --> 01:21:33,413
area from the program

2900
01:21:34,984 --> 01:21:35,651
Artificially artificially

2901
01:21:35,651 --> 01:21:36,485
capping the development lot

2902
01:21:36,485 --> 01:21:38,120
size setting a two story high

2903
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:38,788
limit.

2904
01:21:38,788 --> 01:21:39,321
>> Thank you for that

2905
01:21:39,321 --> 01:21:41,321
concluding comment.

2906
01:21:42,925 --> 01:21:44,925
Jesse Schmieding.

2907
01:21:49,310 --> 01:21:49,698
Good afternoon.

2908
01:21:49,698 --> 01:21:50,299
>> Council PRESIDENT Council

2909
01:21:50,299 --> 01:21:50,633
Members My name is Jesse

2910
01:21:50,633 --> 01:21:51,300
Schmidt.

2911
01:21:51,300 --> 01:21:53,536
State policy Manager for San

2912
01:21:53,536 --> 01:21:54,203
Diego and a steering committee

2913
01:21:54,203 --> 01:21:54,770
member on the Coalition for

2914
01:21:54,770 --> 01:21:56,770
Equitable Development.

2915
01:21:57,973 --> 01:21:58,774
We appreciate the conversations

2916
01:21:58,774 --> 01:21:59,475
had with many of your offices

2917
01:21:59,475 --> 01:22:00,209
over the last couple of days,

2918
01:22:00,209 --> 01:22:00,743
including the mayor's office, a

2919
01:22:00,743 --> 01:22:02,743
number of community

2920
01:22:03,779 --> 01:22:04,446
organizations and from our

2921
01:22:04,446 --> 01:22:05,114
coalition coalition had sent

2922
01:22:05,114 --> 01:22:08,151
all of your offices a letter

2923
01:22:08,151 --> 01:22:08,785
last week highlighting our

2924
01:22:08,785 --> 01:22:09,352
concerns with the proposed

2925
01:22:09,352 --> 01:22:11,752
amendments to the very

2926
01:22:12,588 --> 01:22:13,289
successful ag Bonus program.

2927
01:22:13,289 --> 01:22:13,990
While we recognize a balanced

2928
01:22:13,990 --> 01:22:16,990
approach must be achieved, we

2929
01:22:17,527 --> 01:22:18,194
don't believe this policy

2930
01:22:18,194 --> 01:22:18,895
before us makes that clear.

2931
01:22:18,895 --> 01:22:19,562
We would like to express our

2932
01:22:19,562 --> 01:22:21,764
gratitude for each side's

2933
01:22:21,764 --> 01:22:22,432
letter over the weekend

2934
01:22:22,432 --> 01:22:23,650
reiterating many of the same

2935
01:22:23,650 --> 01:22:25,465
concerns that our members

2936
01:22:25,968 --> 01:22:26,435
brought up when this issue was

2937
01:22:26,435 --> 01:22:27,700
first discussed.

2938
01:22:27,700 --> 01:22:27,737
We are asking the city to

2939
01:22:27,737 --> 01:22:30,737
ensure that there are robust

2940
01:22:30,907 --> 01:22:31,540
options for all prospective

2941
01:22:31,540 --> 01:22:32,175
residents and specifically

2942
01:22:32,175 --> 01:22:34,175
implementing the following

2943
01:22:35,511 --> 01:22:36,145
waiving community enhancement

2944
01:22:36,145 --> 01:22:36,713
fees for projects offering

2945
01:22:36,713 --> 01:22:37,413
deeper affordability.

2946
01:22:37,413 --> 01:22:39,813
Creating a publicly accessible

2947
01:22:39,983 --> 01:22:40,683
database for prospective

2948
01:22:40,683 --> 01:22:41,316
renters and buyers can locate

2949
01:22:41,316 --> 01:22:43,716
deed restricted units and

2950
01:22:45,121 --> 01:22:45,754
exempt nonprofits and churches

2951
01:22:45,754 --> 01:22:46,389
from additional burdensome

2952
01:22:46,389 --> 01:22:47,900
regulations that prevents

2953
01:22:47,900 --> 01:22:49,490
the acceleration of affordable

2954
01:22:50,493 --> 01:22:51,193
housing and fails to

2955
01:22:51,193 --> 01:22:51,527
affirmatively furthering fair

2956
01:22:51,527 --> 01:22:53,527
housing.

2957
01:22:59,302 --> 01:22:59,635
>> Comment Manny Ramirez Thank

2958
01:22:59,635 --> 01:23:00,336
you.

2959
01:23:00,336 --> 01:23:01,300
Manny Rodriguez also here with

2960
01:23:01,300 --> 01:23:03,403
the Coalition for Equitable

2961
01:23:04,774 --> 01:23:05,474
Development or a coalition of

2962
01:23:05,474 --> 01:23:06,176
community based organizations

2963
01:23:06,176 --> 01:23:09,176
working to bring more diverse

2964
01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:09,979
voices into the housing policy

2965
01:23:09,979 --> 01:23:10,679
space.

2966
01:23:10,679 --> 01:23:11,381
You know, we're hearing a lot

2967
01:23:11,381 --> 01:23:14,381
today from people who already

2968
01:23:14,850 --> 01:23:15,518
own homes and who already are,

2969
01:23:15,518 --> 01:23:16,218
you know, well established.

2970
01:23:16,218 --> 01:23:16,986
But we also want to bring in

2971
01:23:16,986 --> 01:23:19,986
more people who are struggling

2972
01:23:20,523 --> 01:23:20,957
to find rent or are struggling

2973
01:23:20,957 --> 01:23:21,691
to make rent.

2974
01:23:21,691 --> 01:23:22,920
This community is struggling to

2975
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:24,920
find homes.

2976
01:23:24,527 --> 01:23:25,228
You know, I want to make a

2977
01:23:25,228 --> 01:23:25,562
quick comment about the bonus

2978
01:23:25,562 --> 01:23:27,562
program.

2979
01:23:29,265 --> 01:23:30,166
You know, it builds to youth

2980
01:23:30,166 --> 01:23:33,269
with a rent cap of $2,300 If

2981
01:23:33,269 --> 01:23:34,360
that's the cap.

2982
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:34,403
Not everyone is going to rent

2983
01:23:34,403 --> 01:23:35,171
that high.

2984
01:23:35,171 --> 01:23:38,408
But keep in mind that to live

2985
01:23:38,408 --> 01:23:39,108
in the single family home,

2986
01:23:39,108 --> 01:23:42,412
the median rent to rent out a

2987
01:23:42,412 --> 01:23:43,112
whole home is $4,500 and

2988
01:23:43,112 --> 01:23:43,813
the median mortgage is $6,000.

2989
01:23:43,813 --> 01:23:46,813
The other program here that's

2990
01:23:47,350 --> 01:23:48,510
producing rent thousands of

2991
01:23:48,510 --> 01:23:48,685
dollars cheaper than what is

2992
01:23:48,685 --> 01:23:48,985
out there in single family

2993
01:23:48,985 --> 01:23:49,719
homes.

2994
01:23:49,719 --> 01:23:52,989
So I don't think it's a stretch

2995
01:23:52,989 --> 01:23:53,623
to say that if you eliminate

2996
01:23:53,623 --> 01:23:54,257
the bonus program today or

2997
01:23:54,257 --> 01:23:56,257
severely restricted you're

2998
01:23:58,280 --> 01:23:58,394
eliminating cheaper rents from

2999
01:23:58,394 --> 01:23:59,950
the city.

3000
01:23:59,950 --> 01:23:59,862
So I really want you to think

3001
01:23:59,862 --> 01:24:01,564
about that and I hope you can

3002
01:24:01,564 --> 01:24:02,265
consider the voices of everyone

3003
01:24:02,265 --> 01:24:05,265
not in this room today.

3004
01:24:07,704 --> 01:24:08,438
>> Thank you, Pamela.

3005
01:24:08,438 --> 01:24:10,838
Pamela Gill my apologies.

3006
01:24:11,508 --> 01:24:12,208
Several people seated you times

3007
01:24:12,208 --> 01:24:12,509
if they can please raise their

3008
01:24:12,509 --> 01:24:14,509
hand.

3009
01:24:16,346 --> 01:24:18,746
Larry Erdman, Andrew Hodges,

3010
01:24:21,818 --> 01:24:22,418
Jake Masters, Lexi Neri, Karen

3011
01:24:22,418 --> 01:24:24,818
Good Jessica Thank you.

3012
01:24:26,456 --> 01:24:26,890
Earl Chang.

3013
01:24:26,890 --> 01:24:28,890
Chris Ellison.

3014
01:24:31,828 --> 01:24:32,161
Leandro Cooper Lynch and Rick

3015
01:24:32,161 --> 01:24:34,161
Masters.

3016
01:24:36,266 --> 01:24:36,733
That'll be 11 minutes.

3017
01:24:36,733 --> 01:24:37,330
Please proceed.

3018
01:24:37,330 --> 01:24:39,330
Okay.

3019
01:24:41,571 --> 01:24:42,172
I have slides also and she's I

3020
01:24:42,172 --> 01:24:42,638
know she's getting them.

3021
01:24:42,638 --> 01:24:44,638
Good afternoon.

3022
01:24:46,420 --> 01:24:46,543
My name is Pamela Biegel.

3023
01:24:46,543 --> 01:24:48,543
It really is.

3024
01:24:50,847 --> 01:24:51,648
And I'm just here representing

3025
01:24:51,648 --> 01:24:55,248
myself and my friends here and

3026
01:24:56,153 --> 01:24:57,200
I hope I have some friends.

3027
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,423
I realize that trying to run a

3028
01:25:00,423 --> 01:25:04,623
city as large as San Diego is

3029
01:25:05,429 --> 01:25:06,163
pretty much a thankless job and

3030
01:25:06,163 --> 01:25:06,830
you probably get a little tired

3031
01:25:06,830 --> 01:25:07,297
of people coming up here and

3032
01:25:07,297 --> 01:25:09,297
yelling at you.

3033
01:25:10,330 --> 01:25:10,400
So that's not what I'm going to

3034
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:10,967
do today.

3035
01:25:10,967 --> 01:25:13,967
I applaud the city and

3036
01:25:14,538 --> 01:25:15,105
the state's effort to loosen

3037
01:25:15,105 --> 01:25:15,906
the eu regulations so

3038
01:25:15,906 --> 01:25:19,506
homeowners can build a addus in

3039
01:25:19,976 --> 01:25:20,610
their backyards for their

3040
01:25:20,610 --> 01:25:23,100
elderly parents, for their

3041
01:25:24,147 --> 01:25:24,847
children coming home, starting

3042
01:25:24,847 --> 01:25:25,181
a family or even for extra

3043
01:25:25,181 --> 01:25:27,181
income.

3044
01:25:29,386 --> 01:25:32,986
However, what is the saying No

3045
01:25:33,823 --> 01:25:34,124
good deed ever goes unpunished

3046
01:25:34,124 --> 01:25:36,124
.

3047
01:25:39,295 --> 01:25:41,295
First slide please.

3048
01:25:43,266 --> 01:25:44,340
>> The 18 units on Elmira and

3049
01:25:44,340 --> 01:25:47,340
Claremont has become a news

3050
01:25:48,672 --> 01:25:49,539
darling because of the fact

3051
01:25:49,539 --> 01:25:49,940
that it's on a cul de sac with

3052
01:25:49,940 --> 01:25:51,940
no parking.

3053
01:25:53,710 --> 01:25:54,277
Some consider it an outlier.

3054
01:25:54,277 --> 01:25:56,277
It's not.

3055
01:25:58,348 --> 01:25:59,160
I believe this is

3056
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,160
the unintended consequences.

3057
01:26:02,919 --> 01:26:03,487
>> David Fisher of

3058
01:26:03,487 --> 01:26:04,154
the California Housing

3059
01:26:04,154 --> 01:26:06,554
Community Development of hdb

3060
01:26:08,191 --> 01:26:08,959
was referring to in his last

3061
01:26:08,959 --> 01:26:12,559
minute letter to MISS Heidi von

3062
01:26:12,829 --> 01:26:13,630
Blum of our planning director

3063
01:26:13,630 --> 01:26:14,231
saying In San Diego I cannot

3064
01:26:14,231 --> 01:26:17,231
decide if the letter was

3065
01:26:17,434 --> 01:26:18,168
threatening to you or if they

3066
01:26:18,168 --> 01:26:18,468
were trying to provide you with

3067
01:26:18,468 --> 01:26:20,468
cover.

3068
01:26:22,306 --> 01:26:22,873
I don't know.

3069
01:26:22,873 --> 01:26:23,840
Next slide please.

3070
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,440
From what I have seen and

3071
01:26:27,811 --> 01:26:28,511
understand most of these more

3072
01:26:28,511 --> 01:26:30,511
egregious massive 82 apartment

3073
01:26:33,115 --> 01:26:33,851
complex cities are being built

3074
01:26:33,851 --> 01:26:37,451
by just a handful of developers

3075
01:26:37,854 --> 01:26:38,622
Just a handful.

3076
01:26:38,622 --> 01:26:41,622
Like MR. Daniel Skolnick of

3077
01:26:43,427 --> 01:26:46,427
Atlas West Group and MR.

3078
01:26:47,964 --> 01:26:48,565
Christian Spicer of sd three

3079
01:26:48,565 --> 01:26:50,965
Pro Kal Vertical mvm

3080
01:26:52,536 --> 01:26:53,203
Construction along with MR.

3081
01:26:53,203 --> 01:26:56,203
Tommy Hinson of the investor

3082
01:26:57,207 --> 01:26:57,975
group Fletcher Cove Capital in

3083
01:26:57,975 --> 01:27:00,975
partnership with MR. Josh Steck

3084
01:27:02,779 --> 01:27:03,647
of Sun Inc.

3085
01:27:03,647 --> 01:27:07,247
MR. Spicer even says on page 50

3086
01:27:07,518 --> 01:27:08,252
of his advertising brochures

3087
01:27:08,252 --> 01:27:11,522
and I quote We are the largest

3088
01:27:11,522 --> 01:27:12,155
company doing this type of

3089
01:27:12,155 --> 01:27:14,555
development in San Diego.

3090
01:27:17,940 --> 01:27:17,795
Next slide please.

3091
01:27:17,795 --> 01:27:18,394
In reference to MR. Christian

3092
01:27:18,394 --> 01:27:20,794
Spicer and his partners,

3093
01:27:22,166 --> 01:27:22,999
the pattern goes like this.

3094
01:27:22,999 --> 01:27:26,599
Sun Inc, owned by MR. Justice

3095
01:27:27,710 --> 01:27:27,704
heavily advertises to

3096
01:27:27,704 --> 01:27:28,405
the residents of our city

3097
01:27:28,405 --> 01:27:32,500
stating I will buy your home.

3098
01:27:32,309 --> 01:27:33,176
No closing cost.

3099
01:27:33,176 --> 01:27:33,510
You even can get a $20,000

3100
01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:35,510
advance.

3101
01:27:37,747 --> 01:27:41,347
Then if the property has what

3102
01:27:42,252 --> 01:27:42,986
MR. Spicer calls the golden

3103
01:27:42,986 --> 01:27:45,986
ticket meaning a large backyard

3104
01:27:47,758 --> 01:27:48,425
no pool, no elaborate planning,

3105
01:27:48,425 --> 01:27:48,758
just grass or dirt, he snaps

3106
01:27:48,758 --> 01:27:50,758
that up.

3107
01:27:52,129 --> 01:27:52,863
MR. Spicer is quoted in his

3108
01:27:52,863 --> 01:27:55,263
advertising brochure on page 44

3109
01:27:57,101 --> 01:27:57,735
saying We have new technology

3110
01:27:57,735 --> 01:28:00,135
to expedite processing of

3111
01:28:02,206 --> 01:28:02,606
pertinent data to stay ahead of

3112
01:28:02,606 --> 01:28:03,273
competition.

3113
01:28:03,273 --> 01:28:05,673
We actively and aggressively

3114
01:28:07,178 --> 01:28:07,945
pursue deals.

3115
01:28:07,945 --> 01:28:11,248
I'm not exactly sure how he's

3116
01:28:11,248 --> 01:28:11,949
partnered with Sun since it's

3117
01:28:11,949 --> 01:28:12,583
supposed to be a bidding

3118
01:28:12,583 --> 01:28:15,583
process to get the highest

3119
01:28:16,487 --> 01:28:17,254
bidder for the homeowner.

3120
01:28:17,254 --> 01:28:18,550
MR. Spicer and MR. Hinson

3121
01:28:18,550 --> 01:28:21,580
purchased the house and if it

3122
01:28:21,580 --> 01:28:21,758
is a three bedroom, two bath or

3123
01:28:21,758 --> 01:28:22,193
more they split it into two

3124
01:28:22,193 --> 01:28:24,193
rental units.

3125
01:28:26,130 --> 01:28:29,130
Then they take their already

3126
01:28:29,799 --> 01:28:30,600
approved plans of the 441ft

3127
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,200
two story boxes and they'll jam

3128
01:28:34,838 --> 01:28:35,606
as many of those into

3129
01:28:35,606 --> 01:28:36,240
the backyard as they can get in

3130
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:39,240
there within the four foot

3131
01:28:40,377 --> 01:28:41,178
limit Most of the properties

3132
01:28:41,178 --> 01:28:44,382
are fixer uppers and they would

3133
01:28:44,382 --> 01:28:45,820
make a great first time

3134
01:28:45,820 --> 01:28:47,482
homebuyer property but they're

3135
01:28:48,752 --> 01:28:49,420
being snatched up by MR. Spicer

3136
01:28:49,420 --> 01:28:52,420
and MR. Hinson and investors

3137
01:28:53,524 --> 01:28:56,524
started as far back as 2021.

3138
01:28:58,595 --> 01:28:59,463
MR. Spicer further says on page

3139
01:28:59,463 --> 01:29:02,463
46 to investors we have a

3140
01:29:03,900 --> 01:29:04,601
unique opportunity to acquire

3141
01:29:04,601 --> 01:29:07,100
these properties now before

3142
01:29:09,206 --> 01:29:11,606
homeowner awareness and prices

3143
01:29:13,276 --> 01:29:14,145
jump.

3144
01:29:14,145 --> 01:29:17,745
On page 23 MR. Spicer is quoted

3145
01:29:18,281 --> 01:29:18,882
in saying more prospective home

3146
01:29:18,882 --> 01:29:21,282
buyers are turning to

3147
01:29:23,321 --> 01:29:23,654
indefinite renting indefinite

3148
01:29:23,654 --> 01:29:25,654
renting.

3149
01:29:28,626 --> 01:29:29,293
Let me repeat that.

3150
01:29:29,293 --> 01:29:29,927
More prospective home buyers

3151
01:29:29,927 --> 01:29:32,327
are turning to indefinite

3152
01:29:33,964 --> 01:29:34,264
renting and he's probably

3153
01:29:34,264 --> 01:29:34,999
right.

3154
01:29:34,999 --> 01:29:38,599
We don't have rent control here

3155
01:29:38,903 --> 01:29:39,236
like Los Angeles or Orange

3156
01:29:39,236 --> 01:29:39,636
County.

3157
01:29:39,636 --> 01:29:40,137
Next slide.

3158
01:29:40,137 --> 01:29:42,137
Next slide please.

3159
01:29:43,374 --> 01:29:44,175
Another thing is happening to

3160
01:29:44,175 --> 01:29:48,450
our city and that is when MR.

3161
01:29:48,450 --> 01:29:48,779
Spicer's group buys a property

3162
01:29:48,779 --> 01:29:49,580
There's no notice to neighbors.

3163
01:29:49,580 --> 01:29:52,580
They start building these huge

3164
01:29:53,284 --> 01:29:53,951
multi-use unit apartment

3165
01:29:53,951 --> 01:29:54,619
complexes and the neighbors

3166
01:29:54,619 --> 01:29:58,219
living on either side or on

3167
01:29:58,623 --> 01:29:59,223
limited parking streets that

3168
01:29:59,223 --> 01:30:02,223
are cul de sacs See

3169
01:30:03,194 --> 01:30:03,960
the disaster headed their way

3170
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,960
and they sell and leave.

3171
01:30:08,966 --> 01:30:12,570
How would you like it if a

3172
01:30:12,570 --> 01:30:13,700
massive unit ended up right

3173
01:30:13,700 --> 01:30:13,638
next to your face?

3174
01:30:13,638 --> 01:30:16,380
You wouldn't like it.

3175
01:30:17,875 --> 01:30:20,875
MR. Spicer is selling the 4675

3176
01:30:22,113 --> 01:30:22,546
Firestone Street that he built

3177
01:30:22,546 --> 01:30:24,546
with 14 units.

3178
01:30:26,283 --> 01:30:29,283
He is selling it for $5.2

3179
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:31,220
million again $5.2 million.

3180
01:30:31,220 --> 01:30:34,622
It is listed right now on

3181
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:36,127
the mls on the realtor site

3182
01:30:36,127 --> 01:30:38,127
Markus and Millichap.

3183
01:30:39,730 --> 01:30:40,398
I don't know what he's going to

3184
01:30:40,398 --> 01:30:41,990
sell the second property for

3185
01:30:41,990 --> 01:30:44,601
because the person on the side

3186
01:30:44,601 --> 01:30:48,201
of his first project they got

3187
01:30:48,473 --> 01:30:49,240
out, they couldn't take it.

3188
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:49,907
MR. Spicer has been telling all

3189
01:30:49,907 --> 01:30:52,907
of his investors that every

3190
01:30:53,911 --> 01:30:54,245
unit will be rent market or

3191
01:30:54,245 --> 01:30:56,245
higher.

3192
01:30:58,549 --> 01:30:58,950
He did not put any as

3193
01:30:58,950 --> 01:30:59,550
affordable.

3194
01:30:59,550 --> 01:31:02,550
Look at his rent rolls.

3195
01:31:03,388 --> 01:31:03,688
I will show you how to do that

3196
01:31:03,688 --> 01:31:04,455
.

3197
01:31:04,455 --> 01:31:06,855
>> My wonderful assistants have

3198
01:31:07,758 --> 01:31:08,392
been showing you many examples

3199
01:31:08,392 --> 01:31:11,392
of what you call outliers.

3200
01:31:13,264 --> 01:31:13,898
They're not These are just

3201
01:31:13,898 --> 01:31:16,898
the ones the builders have

3202
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:18,670
started Started.

3203
01:31:18,670 --> 01:31:19,700
This is just the tip of

3204
01:31:19,700 --> 01:31:21,700
the iceberg.

3205
01:31:22,273 --> 01:31:25,873
This tsunami is coming our way.

3206
01:31:27,277 --> 01:31:28,460
As you see from this slide, MR.

3207
01:31:28,460 --> 01:31:31,460
Spicer says in his advertising

3208
01:31:32,884 --> 01:31:35,284
brochure he has 1803 housing

3209
01:31:37,956 --> 01:31:40,956
starts And just this past

3210
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:43,828
Thursday he put that up.

3211
01:31:43,828 --> 01:31:47,428
Just this past Thursday he put

3212
01:31:47,699 --> 01:31:48,566
that up.

3213
01:31:48,566 --> 01:31:49,334
One of my questions to you is

3214
01:31:49,334 --> 01:31:52,334
who's going to manage these

3215
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:53,538
apartments complexes of ten,

3216
01:31:53,538 --> 01:31:55,538
12, 20, 24, 28.

3217
01:31:58,420 --> 01:31:58,810
There's no leasing agent there.

3218
01:31:58,810 --> 01:31:59,110
Who's going to manage them?

3219
01:31:59,110 --> 01:32:01,110
MR..

3220
01:32:03,515 --> 01:32:04,415
Spicer has listed on page 38

3221
01:32:04,415 --> 01:32:06,815
through 42 of his 50 page

3222
01:32:08,453 --> 01:32:10,853
advertising brochure that he

3223
01:32:11,589 --> 01:32:15,789
put out last year on APRIL 4th.

3224
01:32:16,461 --> 01:32:17,228
44 units on Tarbox Street.

3225
01:32:17,228 --> 01:32:19,628
77 units on Leghorn Avenue.

3226
01:32:21,990 --> 01:32:23,499
107 units on Benson Avenue.

3227
01:32:26,437 --> 01:32:28,837
129 units on Chelsea, Sidney

3228
01:32:29,941 --> 01:32:31,941
and Pacific Drive.

3229
01:32:34,478 --> 01:32:37,478
151 units on Greenly and 32nd.

3230
01:32:38,149 --> 01:32:41,149
And last but not least 750

3231
01:32:42,954 --> 01:32:43,254
units on z Street in South

3232
01:32:43,254 --> 01:32:45,254
Crest.

3233
01:32:48,260 --> 01:32:48,993
Next slide please.

3234
01:32:48,993 --> 01:32:49,427
So you don't think I'm making

3235
01:32:49,427 --> 01:32:51,427
all this up?

3236
01:32:55,166 --> 01:32:55,467
I came with the receipts today

3237
01:32:55,467 --> 01:32:56,234
.

3238
01:32:56,234 --> 01:32:59,834
These are the websites where I

3239
01:33:00,572 --> 01:33:01,238
was able to publicly get every

3240
01:33:01,238 --> 01:33:01,606
piece of information I just

3241
01:33:01,606 --> 01:33:03,606
gave you.

3242
01:33:04,676 --> 01:33:07,512
You can do it to.

3243
01:33:07,512 --> 01:33:08,379
It took my 77 year old husband

3244
01:33:08,379 --> 01:33:10,582
two minutes on his iPhone to

3245
01:33:10,582 --> 01:33:12,582
find them.

3246
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,120
Sorry, dear.

3247
01:33:20,926 --> 01:33:24,526
It's I assume come back slash

3248
01:33:26,970 --> 01:33:29,133
sd r e official and I assume

3249
01:33:29,133 --> 01:33:29,801
dot com backsplash t w h 1031

3250
01:33:29,801 --> 01:33:33,401
Now they're up there for now

3251
01:33:34,372 --> 01:33:35,600
but I want anyone to know if he

3252
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:35,741
decides to take them off.

3253
01:33:35,741 --> 01:33:38,741
I have downloaded the pertinent

3254
01:33:39,778 --> 01:33:40,545
information in and if he tries

3255
01:33:40,545 --> 01:33:42,481
to alternate anything on there

3256
01:33:42,481 --> 01:33:44,881
I've got the downloaded

3257
01:33:47,285 --> 01:33:48,860
information.

3258
01:33:48,860 --> 01:33:50,486
>> My husband obtained his

3259
01:33:52,290 --> 01:33:52,624
general contracting license in

3260
01:33:52,624 --> 01:33:53,392
1976.

3261
01:33:53,392 --> 01:33:56,392
That's how old we are.

3262
01:33:56,762 --> 01:33:57,396
I joined him in 1983.

3263
01:33:57,396 --> 01:33:57,962
He has done commercial

3264
01:33:57,962 --> 01:33:59,962
government custom home

3265
01:34:00,699 --> 01:34:01,990
remodeling and even yacht

3266
01:34:01,990 --> 01:34:01,799
remodeling.

3267
01:34:01,799 --> 01:34:05,737
We are both retired now but we

3268
01:34:05,737 --> 01:34:06,437
are very familiar with proper

3269
01:34:06,437 --> 01:34:09,437
building codes And even though

3270
01:34:10,509 --> 01:34:11,276
you guys were kind of a pain in

3271
01:34:11,276 --> 01:34:15,476
the neck to us it's because of

3272
01:34:15,614 --> 01:34:16,281
you that these properties have

3273
01:34:16,281 --> 01:34:19,281
made the occupants safe and

3274
01:34:20,852 --> 01:34:24,452
the people in San Diego safe.

3275
01:34:25,457 --> 01:34:26,257
We appreciate that by loosening

3276
01:34:26,257 --> 01:34:27,250
so many of these restrictions

3277
01:34:27,250 --> 01:34:30,250
with this 80 you brain bonus

3278
01:34:30,161 --> 01:34:33,161
program I see major issues

3279
01:34:34,967 --> 01:34:35,767
headed your way.

3280
01:34:35,767 --> 01:34:36,400
A very odd thing happened while

3281
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:39,400
I was driving around these

3282
01:34:40,205 --> 01:34:40,906
sites when I went because as

3283
01:34:40,906 --> 01:34:41,439
you can tell I've taken a

3284
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,439
couple of pictures.

3285
01:34:45,176 --> 01:34:47,176
Can't you?

3286
01:34:49,140 --> 01:34:49,981
I came to 6821 Newbold Court

3287
01:34:49,981 --> 01:34:54,181
and I saw the Fox five kusi

3288
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:55,530
News there and I was listening

3289
01:34:55,530 --> 01:34:57,530
to their broadcast.

3290
01:34:59,357 --> 01:35:00,580
It was my understanding that

3291
01:35:00,580 --> 01:35:00,826
the neighbors all came to that

3292
01:35:00,826 --> 01:35:04,597
cul de sac and they were going

3293
01:35:04,597 --> 01:35:04,930
to meet with MR. Campos aide

3294
01:35:04,930 --> 01:35:06,930
Correct.

3295
01:35:09,435 --> 01:35:10,134
And when the developer showed

3296
01:35:10,134 --> 01:35:13,734
up and saw your cameras boom,

3297
01:35:15,206 --> 01:35:16,800
he was gone And in within a few

3298
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,800
minutes so was this whole

3299
01:35:19,677 --> 01:35:20,446
entire construction crew.

3300
01:35:20,446 --> 01:35:23,749
As I said, we've been in

3301
01:35:23,749 --> 01:35:24,616
construction many years.

3302
01:35:24,616 --> 01:35:25,283
We've never run away like that

3303
01:35:25,283 --> 01:35:25,584
and we've never had our crew

3304
01:35:25,584 --> 01:35:27,584
leave.

3305
01:35:28,754 --> 01:35:29,488
Why would you do that Unless

3306
01:35:29,488 --> 01:35:32,488
you're doing something you know

3307
01:35:38,864 --> 01:35:41,864
you shouldn't be doing who's

3308
01:35:42,834 --> 01:35:43,401
going to be liable to the city

3309
01:35:43,401 --> 01:35:43,836
in these already dense

3310
01:35:43,836 --> 01:35:45,836
neighborhoods?

3311
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,400
Well, thank you.

3312
01:35:51,577 --> 01:35:52,344
Thank you.

3313
01:35:52,344 --> 01:35:56,544
A-10s, a-10s, vhf you have

3314
01:35:56,582 --> 01:35:57,315
times needed to you if you

3315
01:35:57,315 --> 01:35:57,716
could please raise your hand by

3316
01:35:57,716 --> 01:35:59,716
Fred Bigley.

3317
01:36:01,453 --> 01:36:01,853
Fred.

3318
01:36:01,853 --> 01:36:02,225
Oh, sorry.

3319
01:36:02,225 --> 01:36:04,225
Thank you.

3320
01:36:06,191 --> 01:36:06,491
Tom o'Neil and Brigitte Poizner

3321
01:36:06,491 --> 01:36:07,260
.

3322
01:36:07,260 --> 01:36:09,260
Brigitte Oh, sorry.

3323
01:36:10,663 --> 01:36:11,330
Thank you.

3324
01:36:11,330 --> 01:36:11,797
>> You'll have four minutes.

3325
01:36:11,797 --> 01:36:13,797
Please proceed.

3326
01:36:16,434 --> 01:36:17,202
So many of the proposed changes

3327
01:36:17,202 --> 01:36:17,636
to a bonus edu program are very

3328
01:36:17,636 --> 01:36:19,636
controversial.

3329
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:21,639
We can tell that by all

3330
01:36:21,639 --> 01:36:22,307
the people who have spoken

3331
01:36:22,307 --> 01:36:25,307
about it since the amendment

3332
01:36:25,811 --> 01:36:26,512
process began and all

3333
01:36:26,512 --> 01:36:27,446
the people who are here today.

3334
01:36:27,446 --> 01:36:30,216
I want to talk about one that

3335
01:36:30,216 --> 01:36:30,916
is controversial and hopefully

3336
01:36:30,916 --> 01:36:31,617
shouldn't be controversial to

3337
01:36:31,617 --> 01:36:34,617
anybody who's at all familiar

3338
01:36:35,220 --> 01:36:35,654
with Southern California and

3339
01:36:35,654 --> 01:36:35,954
the fire risk that we face

3340
01:36:35,954 --> 01:36:37,954
here.

3341
01:36:39,291 --> 01:36:40,250
Item 15.

3342
01:36:40,250 --> 01:36:40,592
The proposed changes would make

3343
01:36:40,592 --> 01:36:42,992
the bonus edu program

3344
01:36:44,730 --> 01:36:45,664
unavailable to homes fronting

3345
01:36:45,664 --> 01:36:48,534
cul de sacs and those with less

3346
01:36:48,534 --> 01:36:49,301
than two evacuation routes in

3347
01:36:49,301 --> 01:36:52,901
high fire and very high fire

3348
01:36:53,372 --> 01:36:54,206
severity zones.

3349
01:36:54,206 --> 01:36:54,906
This is an item that is clearly

3350
01:36:54,906 --> 01:36:58,410
borne out of the ever present

3351
01:36:58,410 --> 01:36:59,178
threat of wildfire of wildfire

3352
01:36:59,178 --> 01:36:59,979
that we all know is part of

3353
01:36:59,979 --> 01:37:02,515
the price of living in Southern

3354
01:37:02,515 --> 01:37:03,382
California.

3355
01:37:03,382 --> 01:37:04,160
Now I know there are some there

3356
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:07,160
are some issues raised by

3357
01:37:07,186 --> 01:37:07,887
the State Department of Housing

3358
01:37:07,887 --> 01:37:08,487
and Community Development and

3359
01:37:08,487 --> 01:37:10,487
they've been addressed.

3360
01:37:12,992 --> 01:37:17,192
Maybe but this is one item that

3361
01:37:17,696 --> 01:37:18,397
wasn't flagged by them and it

3362
01:37:18,397 --> 01:37:20,797
should pass today regardless.

3363
01:37:22,835 --> 01:37:25,835
>> But in addition, before this

3364
01:37:27,739 --> 01:37:28,474
gets passed, I think you have

3365
01:37:28,474 --> 01:37:32,740
the opportunity to make it very

3366
01:37:32,578 --> 01:37:33,245
clear that it needs to apply to

3367
01:37:33,245 --> 01:37:35,645
projects that are currently

3368
01:37:36,681 --> 01:37:37,350
pending and projects that have

3369
01:37:37,350 --> 01:37:37,983
applications that have gone

3370
01:37:37,983 --> 01:37:38,417
through and not even been

3371
01:37:38,417 --> 01:37:40,417
approved yet.

3372
01:37:42,221 --> 01:37:42,921
The mere fact that a project

3373
01:37:42,921 --> 01:37:43,589
permit was filed before these

3374
01:37:43,589 --> 01:37:46,589
amendments passed if they do

3375
01:37:47,930 --> 01:37:47,793
pass or the fact that

3376
01:37:47,793 --> 01:37:50,193
construction started does not

3377
01:37:51,864 --> 01:37:52,832
make it any less dangerous and

3378
01:37:52,832 --> 01:37:57,320
does not take care of any of

3379
01:37:57,270 --> 01:37:57,970
the issues that made this

3380
01:37:57,970 --> 01:37:58,271
amendment come to in the first

3381
01:37:58,271 --> 01:38:00,271
place.

3382
01:38:01,373 --> 01:38:02,141
What's more, California is

3383
01:38:02,141 --> 01:38:05,141
explicit in that you are

3384
01:38:06,512 --> 01:38:07,780
allowed to enforce code changes

3385
01:38:07,780 --> 01:38:09,780
after applications are

3386
01:38:11,500 --> 01:38:11,417
submitted to currently ongoing

3387
01:38:11,417 --> 01:38:13,417
projects.

3388
01:38:15,688 --> 01:38:16,389
Section 65589.5 Subsection 2ob

3389
01:38:16,389 --> 01:38:18,789
of the California Government

3390
01:38:20,526 --> 01:38:21,159
Code allows housing development

3391
01:38:21,159 --> 01:38:24,159
projects to be subject to

3392
01:38:25,397 --> 01:38:26,198
ordinances, policies, standards

3393
01:38:26,198 --> 01:38:26,832
or any other measures that went

3394
01:38:26,832 --> 01:38:29,832
into effect after a permit

3395
01:38:30,637 --> 01:38:31,337
application was filed.

3396
01:38:31,337 --> 01:38:32,104
If the record establishes that

3397
01:38:32,104 --> 01:38:35,704
doing so is necessary to avoid

3398
01:38:35,875 --> 01:38:36,742
specific adverse impacts on

3399
01:38:36,742 --> 01:38:39,979
health or safety and there is

3400
01:38:39,979 --> 01:38:40,580
no alternative feasible method

3401
01:38:40,580 --> 01:38:42,980
to mitigate or avoid

3402
01:38:44,817 --> 01:38:45,651
the adverse impact.

3403
01:38:45,651 --> 01:38:46,652
This is clearly the case here.

3404
01:38:46,652 --> 01:38:50,322
There is no way to create a

3405
01:38:50,322 --> 01:38:50,723
secondary evacuation route on a

3406
01:38:50,723 --> 01:38:52,723
cul de sac.

3407
01:38:54,394 --> 01:38:55,128
Now I was a kid living in San

3408
01:38:55,128 --> 01:38:55,795
Diego during the Cedar Fire but

3409
01:38:55,795 --> 01:38:58,795
I still remember the horrors

3410
01:38:58,997 --> 01:38:59,732
that we faced in watching

3411
01:38:59,732 --> 01:39:00,166
the fires get closer and closer

3412
01:39:00,166 --> 01:39:02,166
to our houses.

3413
01:39:04,237 --> 01:39:05,400
And recently the Palisades and

3414
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:08,308
fires in Los Angeles remind us

3415
01:39:08,308 --> 01:39:09,750
all that it's not a matter of

3416
01:39:09,750 --> 01:39:12,675
if the next tragedy will happen

3417
01:39:13,446 --> 01:39:14,113
but when and the council

3418
01:39:14,113 --> 01:39:14,847
chooses not to act now.

3419
01:39:14,847 --> 01:39:17,847
You are consciously choosing to

3420
01:39:18,585 --> 01:39:19,285
put lives at risk.

3421
01:39:19,285 --> 01:39:19,585
We could have done something

3422
01:39:19,585 --> 01:39:21,585
today.

3423
01:39:24,190 --> 01:39:24,857
In fact, those of you that have

3424
01:39:24,857 --> 01:39:25,558
the Watch Duty app we've all

3425
01:39:25,558 --> 01:39:26,259
been getting notifications of

3426
01:39:26,259 --> 01:39:26,526
our fire that's ongoing right

3427
01:39:26,526 --> 01:39:28,526
now.

3428
01:39:28,995 --> 01:39:29,595
Hopefully it's not the next big

3429
01:39:29,595 --> 01:39:32,595
one but it could be.

3430
01:39:33,660 --> 01:39:33,700
So don't let the next fire

3431
01:39:33,700 --> 01:39:34,670
prove what could have been

3432
01:39:34,670 --> 01:39:36,670
prevented.

3433
01:39:37,370 --> 01:39:38,710
Amend item 15 to make sure that

3434
01:39:38,710 --> 01:39:40,471
applies to current ongoing

3435
01:39:42,408 --> 01:39:43,760
projects and go past today.

3436
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:43,442
>> Thank you very much.

3437
01:39:43,442 --> 01:39:44,310
Thank you.

3438
01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:47,547
If we can have the following

3439
01:39:47,547 --> 01:39:48,810
individuals well Chris Jackson

3440
01:39:48,810 --> 01:39:48,781
is the next speaker.

3441
01:39:48,781 --> 01:39:49,248
Please come to the microphone

3442
01:39:49,248 --> 01:39:51,248
then after that.

3443
01:39:52,352 --> 01:39:53,860
So these are heavier Rafael

3444
01:39:53,860 --> 01:39:55,486
Perez, Trudy Greenlane, Suzanne

3445
01:39:57,457 --> 01:39:58,258
Retellings, Lucy Margaret

3446
01:39:58,258 --> 01:40:00,658
Price, Madeline Gennaro and

3447
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:02,629
Karen Venn to Amelia If you can

3448
01:40:02,629 --> 01:40:04,797
all please come up to

3449
01:40:04,797 --> 01:40:07,797
the yellow reserved seats And

3450
01:40:10,270 --> 01:40:10,570
Chris please proceed when ready

3451
01:40:10,570 --> 01:40:10,970
.

3452
01:40:10,970 --> 01:40:11,738
All right.

3453
01:40:11,738 --> 01:40:12,370
I won't take much of your time

3454
01:40:12,370 --> 01:40:12,505
today.

3455
01:40:12,505 --> 01:40:14,905
It's a long day.

3456
01:40:15,141 --> 01:40:15,775
Summary is I commend

3457
01:40:15,775 --> 01:40:16,176
the efforts in the single

3458
01:40:16,176 --> 01:40:16,876
family lots.

3459
01:40:16,876 --> 01:40:19,379
I think that's something that

3460
01:40:19,379 --> 01:40:20,113
we're needing to limit to be

3461
01:40:20,113 --> 01:40:20,813
able to help individuals that

3462
01:40:20,813 --> 01:40:21,481
live in communities, stay in a

3463
01:40:21,481 --> 01:40:23,881
community, feel as developer

3464
01:40:24,417 --> 01:40:25,284
and multifamily lots.

3465
01:40:25,284 --> 01:40:26,860
That is the area that we have

3466
01:40:26,860 --> 01:40:29,489
and need to be able to develop

3467
01:40:29,489 --> 01:40:30,560
and help further need

3468
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:30,623
the housing shortage.

3469
01:40:30,623 --> 01:40:31,257
Currently about 73% of

3470
01:40:31,257 --> 01:40:33,657
the nation in multifamily

3471
01:40:34,927 --> 01:40:35,628
housing developments has shrunk

3472
01:40:35,628 --> 01:40:36,363
in comparison to 2023 figures

3473
01:40:36,363 --> 01:40:39,363
simply because the numbers just

3474
01:40:39,799 --> 01:40:40,667
don't make sense anymore.

3475
01:40:40,667 --> 01:40:41,340
So there's got to be some kind

3476
01:40:41,340 --> 01:40:41,734
of hybrid.

3477
01:40:41,734 --> 01:40:44,237
And so my recommendation today

3478
01:40:44,237 --> 01:40:44,971
is to keep the bonds that you

3479
01:40:44,971 --> 01:40:45,638
program in play for multifamily

3480
01:40:45,638 --> 01:40:48,638
zones and find some letting

3481
01:40:48,675 --> 01:40:49,309
many factors to help out those

3482
01:40:49,309 --> 01:40:49,743
within the community here.

3483
01:40:49,743 --> 01:40:50,143
>> Thank you.

3484
01:40:50,143 --> 01:40:52,143
Thank you.

3485
01:40:53,613 --> 01:40:55,613
Cesar Xavier.

3486
01:41:02,722 --> 01:41:05,122
You'll have two minutes.

3487
01:41:07,227 --> 01:41:11,970
Sister of the Year You need not

3488
01:41:11,970 --> 01:41:11,698
to think you're just to

3489
01:41:11,698 --> 01:41:14,980
implement the mandate of

3490
01:41:16,136 --> 01:41:16,836
the state of California

3491
01:41:16,836 --> 01:41:19,236
the Environmental Quality Act.

3492
01:41:21,474 --> 01:41:24,474
What have you done since 2020

3493
01:41:26,112 --> 01:41:28,512
with this new administration?

3494
01:41:29,483 --> 01:41:29,916
Cheryl Farber What is my

3495
01:41:29,916 --> 01:41:30,650
district nine?

3496
01:41:30,650 --> 01:41:30,984
What was the reason why he's

3497
01:41:30,984 --> 01:41:32,984
absent?

3498
01:41:34,754 --> 01:41:35,422
He must be in the front line

3499
01:41:35,422 --> 01:41:37,822
particularly in solving our

3500
01:41:38,725 --> 01:41:40,725
dense neighborhood.

3501
01:41:43,897 --> 01:41:44,664
This is the problem.

3502
01:41:44,664 --> 01:41:48,264
You got your position, you got

3503
01:41:48,635 --> 01:41:49,335
your authority but you are not

3504
01:41:49,335 --> 01:41:51,335
responsibly creating that

3505
01:41:54,341 --> 01:41:54,640
justification that you are

3506
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:55,274
there.

3507
01:41:55,274 --> 01:41:58,274
You have your ten fingers.

3508
01:41:59,278 --> 01:41:59,845
You're not using it.

3509
01:41:59,845 --> 01:42:00,413
You're covering up all

3510
01:42:00,413 --> 01:42:02,413
the solution makings.

3511
01:42:03,383 --> 01:42:06,983
If this is the kind of

3512
01:42:08,355 --> 01:42:08,989
discussion we are the losers.

3513
01:42:08,989 --> 01:42:11,389
You are the losers.

3514
01:42:13,727 --> 01:42:14,428
We lost trust on you like this

3515
01:42:14,428 --> 01:42:16,828
in home suitable surroundings.

3516
01:42:19,432 --> 01:42:20,100
Is this your solution?

3517
01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:22,500
Keeping that property vanish

3518
01:42:23,690 --> 01:42:23,737
and theirs and theirs without

3519
01:42:23,737 --> 01:42:26,137
preparing for the population

3520
01:42:28,641 --> 01:42:29,342
explosion or growth which is

3521
01:42:29,342 --> 01:42:29,776
natural for Christians Go here

3522
01:42:29,776 --> 01:42:31,776
and multiply.

3523
01:42:33,413 --> 01:42:34,113
We have to prepare for that for

3524
01:42:34,113 --> 01:42:37,713
the nation Home of San Diego.

3525
01:42:38,418 --> 01:42:39,218
What did you do today and have

3526
01:42:39,218 --> 01:42:42,522
more years and you say bye bye.

3527
01:42:42,522 --> 01:42:44,922
>> We are not affordable

3528
01:42:47,794 --> 01:42:48,595
housing but fancy mansions.

3529
01:42:48,595 --> 01:42:51,595
Cheryl Acaba, Sheryl Ribera and

3530
01:42:52,532 --> 01:42:53,199
the rest of you let's sacrifice

3531
01:42:53,199 --> 01:42:56,199
a little bit Let's think

3532
01:42:57,471 --> 01:42:57,871
research because the solution

3533
01:42:57,871 --> 01:42:58,638
is there.

3534
01:42:58,638 --> 01:43:01,638
Let's copy other countries to

3535
01:43:02,876 --> 01:43:03,843
resolve this housing crisis.

3536
01:43:03,843 --> 01:43:06,243
>> We have 10,000 homeless per

3537
01:43:06,946 --> 01:43:08,946
day included.

3538
01:43:11,552 --> 01:43:11,885
>> Thank you, Rafael Perez

3539
01:43:11,885 --> 01:43:13,885
Hello.

3540
01:43:16,490 --> 01:43:17,570
>> My name is Rafael Perez and

3541
01:43:17,570 --> 01:43:17,624
I'm the board chair of

3542
01:43:17,624 --> 01:43:18,258
the Casita Coalition.

3543
01:43:18,258 --> 01:43:21,661
We all know that there's a

3544
01:43:21,661 --> 01:43:22,429
shortage of starter homes and

3545
01:43:22,429 --> 01:43:25,429
that's why we cosponsored ab

3546
01:43:25,665 --> 01:43:26,233
1033 to allow these 80 use to

3547
01:43:26,233 --> 01:43:26,767
become starter homes.

3548
01:43:26,767 --> 01:43:29,767
Now let me be clear

3549
01:43:30,203 --> 01:43:31,400
Implementing this state bill

3550
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:31,304
does not allow anything to be

3551
01:43:31,304 --> 01:43:32,172
built.

3552
01:43:32,172 --> 01:43:35,475
They can already be built under

3553
01:43:35,475 --> 01:43:36,243
current law.

3554
01:43:36,243 --> 01:43:36,977
What it does do is allow

3555
01:43:36,977 --> 01:43:39,977
the opportunity for a homeowner

3556
01:43:40,814 --> 01:43:41,448
to decide whether to rent,

3557
01:43:41,448 --> 01:43:43,851
occupy or sell their adu.

3558
01:43:43,851 --> 01:43:44,484
I want to thank city staff for

3559
01:43:44,484 --> 01:43:45,185
adding the 30 day priority

3560
01:43:45,185 --> 01:43:45,753
period for owner occupants to

3561
01:43:45,753 --> 01:43:48,153
ensure there's a fair

3562
01:43:50,900 --> 01:43:50,758
opportunity for homebuyers to

3563
01:43:50,758 --> 01:43:51,191
have a fair shot at these

3564
01:43:51,191 --> 01:43:51,925
starter homes.

3565
01:43:51,925 --> 01:43:54,610
We have seen what this has done

3566
01:43:54,610 --> 01:43:54,861
in other cities where these

3567
01:43:54,861 --> 01:43:55,395
homes sell for 40 to 60% of

3568
01:43:55,395 --> 01:43:56,300
what other homes in

3569
01:43:56,300 --> 01:43:58,430
the neighborhood sell for.

3570
01:43:59,433 --> 01:44:00,340
This will help many San Diegans

3571
01:44:00,340 --> 01:44:00,834
hold on to the hope that

3572
01:44:00,834 --> 01:44:03,670
someday they can own their own

3573
01:44:03,670 --> 01:44:04,371
starter home so they can avoid

3574
01:44:04,371 --> 01:44:04,938
displacement and secure their

3575
01:44:04,938 --> 01:44:06,938
own financial futures.

3576
01:44:07,207 --> 01:44:07,708
>> Thank you.

3577
01:44:07,708 --> 01:44:09,708
Thank you.

3578
01:44:12,579 --> 01:44:14,579
Next is Trudy.

3579
01:44:17,952 --> 01:44:18,886
>> I am Trudy Granlund.

3580
01:44:18,886 --> 01:44:21,455
I am a we are San Diego.

3581
01:44:21,455 --> 01:44:22,322
I also said you have noticed

3582
01:44:22,322 --> 01:44:23,570
that I have my website up with

3583
01:44:23,570 --> 01:44:26,657
all this on there for everybody

3584
01:44:26,693 --> 01:44:27,727
to find out.

3585
01:44:27,727 --> 01:44:31,327
>> I know that we need housing

3586
01:44:32,733 --> 01:44:33,433
but the ad use Has there been a

3587
01:44:33,433 --> 01:44:36,103
study by the city on how much

3588
01:44:36,103 --> 01:44:36,870
the rents are on them Because

3589
01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:39,870
to my understanding most of

3590
01:44:40,474 --> 01:44:41,175
them are renting 450ft for

3591
01:44:41,175 --> 01:44:44,175
over 2500 a month and that

3592
01:44:45,513 --> 01:44:46,113
takes an income of over 72,000

3593
01:44:46,113 --> 01:44:49,113
a year for one person.

3594
01:44:50,518 --> 01:44:51,151
These are not starter homes

3595
01:44:51,151 --> 01:44:51,785
because you can't fit two

3596
01:44:51,785 --> 01:44:55,385
people and a baby in them.

3597
01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:56,723
So of affordable housing that

3598
01:44:56,723 --> 01:45:00,227
we're trying to achieve we need

3599
01:45:00,227 --> 01:45:00,995
to do that And this is not

3600
01:45:00,995 --> 01:45:04,932
going to prevent us or cause us

3601
01:45:04,932 --> 01:45:05,599
to get in trouble with the oecd

3602
01:45:05,599 --> 01:45:06,133
in the state housing laws.

3603
01:45:06,133 --> 01:45:08,533
We're on the track.

3604
01:45:09,136 --> 01:45:09,737
We have over 173% over

3605
01:45:09,737 --> 01:45:11,737
affordable over luxury.

3606
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:14,942
The high level homes already

3607
01:45:14,942 --> 01:45:15,776
have been put into production.

3608
01:45:15,776 --> 01:45:18,646
We're at way over We have so

3609
01:45:18,646 --> 01:45:19,246
many high level homes,

3610
01:45:19,246 --> 01:45:19,747
expensive homes in this.

3611
01:45:19,747 --> 01:45:20,113
>> We're way over.

3612
01:45:20,113 --> 01:45:21,415
Thank you.

3613
01:45:21,415 --> 01:45:23,415
Thank you, Susan.

3614
01:45:26,887 --> 01:45:29,287
Readily Susan Rowlings and

3615
01:45:31,892 --> 01:45:32,626
Norman Heights fire Steve

3616
01:45:32,626 --> 01:45:32,993
Counsel thank you for taking my

3617
01:45:32,993 --> 01:45:33,694
comments.

3618
01:45:33,694 --> 01:45:36,963
Enhancement of the Adu and Adu

3619
01:45:36,963 --> 01:45:37,631
permits in single family

3620
01:45:37,631 --> 01:45:38,299
residential zones encourages

3621
01:45:38,299 --> 01:45:41,899
the gaming of the bonus edu

3622
01:45:42,770 --> 01:45:43,337
program One granny flat used to

3623
01:45:43,337 --> 01:45:45,737
mean one granny flat.

3624
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:46,774
Abusive numbers of bonus to use

3625
01:45:46,774 --> 01:45:47,208
due to use triggers commercial

3626
01:45:47,208 --> 01:45:47,908
trash pickup.

3627
01:45:47,908 --> 01:45:50,908
Is there a correlation between

3628
01:45:51,645 --> 01:45:52,446
that and the new trash fees?

3629
01:45:52,446 --> 01:45:55,616
Is this the city cutting costs

3630
01:45:55,616 --> 01:45:56,500
while increasing profits to pay

3631
01:45:56,500 --> 01:45:56,483
for deficits?

3632
01:45:56,483 --> 01:45:58,483
Bonus to you.

3633
01:46:00,388 --> 01:46:01,550
Do you programs do nothing to

3634
01:46:01,550 --> 01:46:01,756
alleviate housing shortage?

3635
01:46:01,756 --> 01:46:05,356
Build them to the sky adjacent

3636
01:46:05,426 --> 01:46:06,930
to the transit hubs.

3637
01:46:06,930 --> 01:46:06,727
Infrastructure is inadequate

3638
01:46:06,727 --> 01:46:08,727
for increasing population

3639
01:46:10,197 --> 01:46:10,831
sometimes nine times with

3640
01:46:10,831 --> 01:46:11,698
abusive numbers of 80 use

3641
01:46:11,698 --> 01:46:15,169
allowed for one property As a

3642
01:46:15,169 --> 01:46:15,936
city invented water.

3643
01:46:15,936 --> 01:46:16,603
Or have they even finished a

3644
01:46:16,603 --> 01:46:18,603
project like Undergrounding

3645
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:20,741
Power in our neighborhoods?

3646
01:46:20,741 --> 01:46:21,242
What capacity for growth in

3647
01:46:21,242 --> 01:46:23,242
that long overdue

3648
01:46:23,878 --> 01:46:24,745
undergrounding of these nine

3649
01:46:24,745 --> 01:46:28,945
adus are going to be built with

3650
01:46:29,650 --> 01:46:30,351
all electric appliances older

3651
01:46:30,351 --> 01:46:31,180
homes being retrofitted, etc..

3652
01:46:31,180 --> 01:46:31,586
Thank you for that very high

3653
01:46:31,586 --> 01:46:32,118
hazard severity zones.

3654
01:46:32,118 --> 01:46:34,118
>> Thank you, Lucy.

3655
01:46:36,423 --> 01:46:38,423
Thank you.

3656
01:46:41,596 --> 01:46:42,296
Thank you very much.

3657
01:46:42,296 --> 01:46:44,696
I am Lucy Price.

3658
01:46:46,667 --> 01:46:47,368
My family has lived in the same

3659
01:46:47,368 --> 01:46:49,768
place in Encanto since 1907.

3660
01:46:50,838 --> 01:46:51,706
I'm the last one.

3661
01:46:51,706 --> 01:46:55,900
>> And yet you want to take

3662
01:46:55,900 --> 01:46:55,777
away my car?

3663
01:46:55,777 --> 01:46:56,477
You want to make my

3664
01:46:56,477 --> 01:46:58,877
disabilities more difficult by

3665
01:47:00,147 --> 01:47:00,648
not providing timely and

3666
01:47:00,648 --> 01:47:02,648
accessible public

3667
01:47:05,860 --> 01:47:05,753
transportation in Encanto.

3668
01:47:05,753 --> 01:47:08,153
You are making emergency

3669
01:47:10,291 --> 01:47:10,891
response more difficult and

3670
01:47:10,891 --> 01:47:12,891
trash pickup confusing.

3671
01:47:15,696 --> 01:47:16,563
I live in Arias one six where

3672
01:47:16,563 --> 01:47:20,163
you're going to throw us under

3673
01:47:21,201 --> 01:47:21,703
the bus and you want us to pay

3674
01:47:21,703 --> 01:47:22,437
for trash pickup.

3675
01:47:22,437 --> 01:47:25,839
That's going to be hard to do

3676
01:47:25,839 --> 01:47:26,541
with all the cars parked down

3677
01:47:26,541 --> 01:47:29,541
the street from other people.

3678
01:47:29,710 --> 01:47:30,344
I believe many of you have a

3679
01:47:30,344 --> 01:47:31,112
conflict of interest with

3680
01:47:31,112 --> 01:47:34,712
developers and I believe it is

3681
01:47:35,283 --> 01:47:37,283
just absolutely unconscionable

3682
01:47:40,188 --> 01:47:40,788
because when I die and two

3683
01:47:40,788 --> 01:47:41,356
pieces of land get sold,

3684
01:47:41,356 --> 01:47:43,356
Encanto is destroyed.

3685
01:47:43,358 --> 01:47:45,358
>> Thank you.

3686
01:47:48,529 --> 01:47:48,830
>> Madeline Gennaro.

3687
01:47:48,830 --> 01:47:49,596
Hello.

3688
01:47:49,596 --> 01:47:53,196
My name is Madeline De Niro.

3689
01:47:53,334 --> 01:47:54,340
I'm one of the few millennial

3690
01:47:54,340 --> 01:47:54,401
homeowners and I'm coming from

3691
01:47:54,401 --> 01:47:55,202
Claremont.

3692
01:47:55,202 --> 01:47:58,802
As a homeowner we are deeply

3693
01:47:59,173 --> 01:47:59,640
impacted by the city's current

3694
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:00,441
80 new policies.

3695
01:48:00,441 --> 01:48:03,441
In 2019 we invested in solar

3696
01:48:04,144 --> 01:48:04,545
panels as something the city

3697
01:48:04,545 --> 01:48:05,213
encouraged.

3698
01:48:05,213 --> 01:48:08,349
Now we are facing a multi

3699
01:48:08,349 --> 01:48:09,500
multi-story next door that will

3700
01:48:09,500 --> 01:48:09,750
block that sunlight rendering

3701
01:48:09,750 --> 01:48:12,750
our panels less effective and

3702
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:13,521
slashing our return on

3703
01:48:13,521 --> 01:48:14,154
investment.

3704
01:48:14,154 --> 01:48:14,889
Who is going to reimburse

3705
01:48:14,889 --> 01:48:15,223
the homeowners for all of those

3706
01:48:15,223 --> 01:48:17,223
losses?

3707
01:48:18,693 --> 01:48:19,427
Developers get grants, loans

3708
01:48:19,427 --> 01:48:20,128
and fast track permits while we

3709
01:48:20,128 --> 01:48:22,528
the rule following homeowners

3710
01:48:23,864 --> 01:48:24,532
are left footing the bill to

3711
01:48:24,532 --> 01:48:25,199
move panels, install privacy

3712
01:48:25,199 --> 01:48:28,199
hedges and undo this damage.

3713
01:48:28,703 --> 01:48:29,370
This isn't just inconvenient

3714
01:48:29,370 --> 01:48:29,803
it's financially punishing.

3715
01:48:29,803 --> 01:48:31,803
And for what?

3716
01:48:32,707 --> 01:48:33,440
To squeeze in rental units like

3717
01:48:33,440 --> 01:48:34,142
sardines when San Diego already

3718
01:48:34,142 --> 01:48:37,142
has tons of vacancies because

3719
01:48:37,779 --> 01:48:38,445
they are overpriced.

3720
01:48:38,445 --> 01:48:39,460
The burden of this policy is

3721
01:48:39,460 --> 01:48:39,547
falling on those who did

3722
01:48:39,547 --> 01:48:41,547
everything right.

3723
01:48:42,917 --> 01:48:43,551
It's time we stop favoring

3724
01:48:43,551 --> 01:48:44,119
the developer profits over

3725
01:48:44,119 --> 01:48:44,752
homeowner protections.

3726
01:48:44,752 --> 01:48:47,152
We need accountability and

3727
01:48:48,389 --> 01:48:49,900
balance before more of us are

3728
01:48:49,900 --> 01:48:49,524
forced to pay for mistakes we

3729
01:48:49,524 --> 01:48:51,524
did not make.

3730
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:00,668
>> Thank you, Karen.

3731
01:49:00,668 --> 01:49:01,360
>> Good afternoon.

3732
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:01,636
Excuse me.

3733
01:49:01,636 --> 01:49:01,970
Good afternoon, Council

3734
01:49:01,970 --> 01:49:03,970
members.

3735
01:49:04,272 --> 01:49:05,390
I'm Karen Ventimiglia.

3736
01:49:05,390 --> 01:49:05,540
I represent neighbors for a

3737
01:49:05,540 --> 01:49:06,307
better California.

3738
01:49:06,307 --> 01:49:09,744
I figure once you get to

3739
01:49:09,744 --> 01:49:10,444
deliberations you're probably

3740
01:49:10,444 --> 01:49:11,112
going to talk about the letter

3741
01:49:11,112 --> 01:49:14,112
that was sent last Friday

3742
01:49:15,249 --> 01:49:16,830
afternoon to MISS Von Blum.

3743
01:49:16,830 --> 01:49:16,851
And I wanted to kind of just

3744
01:49:16,851 --> 01:49:19,620
bring a little bit about that

3745
01:49:19,620 --> 01:49:20,355
into this conversation.

3746
01:49:20,355 --> 01:49:20,655
It's kind of a coincidence,

3747
01:49:20,655 --> 01:49:22,655
right?

3748
01:49:24,559 --> 01:49:25,226
This letter was sent Friday

3749
01:49:25,226 --> 01:49:25,860
afternoon just less than one

3750
01:49:25,860 --> 01:49:28,260
business day before this

3751
01:49:28,797 --> 01:49:29,731
meeting.

3752
01:49:29,731 --> 01:49:33,702
And it's full of words like meh

3753
01:49:33,702 --> 01:49:34,401
and could which were legal

3754
01:49:34,401 --> 01:49:35,103
speak for We're not actually

3755
01:49:35,103 --> 01:49:38,103
saying you're breaking the law

3756
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:39,574
but we want you to feel like

3757
01:49:39,574 --> 01:49:40,740
you are.

3758
01:49:40,740 --> 01:49:42,740
There's no ruling.

3759
01:49:44,379 --> 01:49:44,679
Excuse me My notes just went

3760
01:49:44,679 --> 01:49:45,790
away.

3761
01:49:45,790 --> 01:49:45,780
Oh my gosh.

3762
01:49:45,780 --> 01:49:48,780
Well anyway, there's no ruling

3763
01:49:49,283 --> 01:49:49,751
that says you have to do what

3764
01:49:49,751 --> 01:49:50,552
the letter says.

3765
01:49:50,552 --> 01:49:53,288
I think you need to think about

3766
01:49:53,288 --> 01:49:53,889
the homeowners and act

3767
01:49:53,889 --> 01:49:54,622
accordingly and let MS..

3768
01:49:54,622 --> 01:49:55,230
Von Blum's suggestions actually

3769
01:49:55,230 --> 01:49:57,230
go forward.

3770
01:49:58,626 --> 01:50:01,260
Thank you very much.

3771
01:50:03,698 --> 01:50:04,599
>> Marcello Marcella Bothwell

3772
01:50:04,599 --> 01:50:05,267
You have time ceded to you by

3773
01:50:05,267 --> 01:50:08,267
Barbara Williams If you can

3774
01:50:08,570 --> 01:50:09,437
please raise your hand.

3775
01:50:09,437 --> 01:50:12,437
>> Can a Horsley please raise

3776
01:50:13,675 --> 01:50:14,542
your hand?

3777
01:50:14,542 --> 01:50:15,143
>> Ken Horsley I see him coming

3778
01:50:15,143 --> 01:50:17,543
from the committee room.

3779
01:50:17,879 --> 01:50:19,879
Thank you.

3780
01:50:22,884 --> 01:50:23,552
>> And Robin, back.

3781
01:50:23,552 --> 01:50:24,185
Baker Thank you so much.

3782
01:50:24,185 --> 01:50:24,653
You'll have four minutes.

3783
01:50:24,653 --> 01:50:26,653
Please proceed.

3784
01:50:28,900 --> 01:50:28,690
Thank you.

3785
01:50:28,690 --> 01:50:29,230
Good afternoon, Council

3786
01:50:29,230 --> 01:50:29,858
members.

3787
01:50:29,858 --> 01:50:32,327
Last week I met a young couple

3788
01:50:32,327 --> 01:50:33,161
together made a $150,000.

3789
01:50:33,161 --> 01:50:36,761
Yet they are still priced out

3790
01:50:37,432 --> 01:50:41,320
of the San Diego housing market

3791
01:50:41,970 --> 01:50:42,838
and Ada could be their lifeline

3792
01:50:42,838 --> 01:50:43,205
to build an equity and stay in

3793
01:50:43,205 --> 01:50:45,205
San Diego.

3794
01:50:46,341 --> 01:50:47,800
Neighbors for a better

3795
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:49,800
California supports 80 years

3796
01:50:50,245 --> 01:50:50,946
under the state rules and

3797
01:50:50,946 --> 01:50:53,946
the four means four from

3798
01:50:55,550 --> 01:50:56,350
the cpc planning group.

3799
01:50:56,350 --> 01:50:56,918
These ideas are crucial for

3800
01:50:56,918 --> 01:50:58,918
young people chasing

3801
01:51:00,721 --> 01:51:01,189
homeownership in today's brutal

3802
01:51:01,189 --> 01:51:03,189
housing market.

3803
01:51:05,927 --> 01:51:06,194
But the 2008 crash still haunts

3804
01:51:06,194 --> 01:51:08,194
us.

3805
01:51:10,565 --> 01:51:11,266
Wall Street's financialization

3806
01:51:11,266 --> 01:51:13,666
and credit default swaps

3807
01:51:14,769 --> 01:51:15,369
reckless speculation turned

3808
01:51:15,369 --> 01:51:17,769
homes into casino chips

3809
01:51:19,875 --> 01:51:20,441
inflating a bubble that

3810
01:51:20,441 --> 01:51:20,841
shattered families and

3811
01:51:20,841 --> 01:51:22,841
communities.

3812
01:51:25,213 --> 01:51:25,647
Still today we can't let that

3813
01:51:25,647 --> 01:51:27,647
happen again.

3814
01:51:29,851 --> 01:51:30,519
Smart regulation is our defense

3815
01:51:30,519 --> 01:51:30,986
against the market spiraling

3816
01:51:30,986 --> 01:51:32,986
out of control?

3817
01:51:35,757 --> 01:51:36,424
>> Jim Bass, why do you

3818
01:51:36,424 --> 01:51:37,590
disagree with this balanced

3819
01:51:37,590 --> 01:51:39,459
regulation that's been put

3820
01:51:40,262 --> 01:51:40,762
forward?

3821
01:51:40,762 --> 01:51:42,762
It's not perfect.

3822
01:51:44,399 --> 01:51:47,399
We'd prefer the 55 year cap.

3823
01:51:48,837 --> 01:51:49,538
>> It just targets the 2%

3824
01:51:49,538 --> 01:51:51,538
outlier projects massive 1216

3825
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:55,240
or in our case 116.

3826
01:51:55,744 --> 01:51:58,744
Or today I heard 750 unit

3827
01:52:00,382 --> 01:52:01,820
complexes disrupting single

3828
01:52:01,820 --> 01:52:03,820
family zoning while

3829
01:52:06,540 --> 01:52:06,655
greenlighting 98% of ados.

3830
01:52:06,655 --> 01:52:09,550
This isn't anti housing.

3831
01:52:11,260 --> 01:52:13,426
This is responsible regulation.

3832
01:52:14,830 --> 01:52:15,631
Oppose it and you risk

3833
01:52:15,631 --> 01:52:18,310
dismantling single family home

3834
01:52:20,235 --> 01:52:21,103
dreams which 55% of young

3835
01:52:21,103 --> 01:52:24,703
people dream if they can afford

3836
01:52:24,973 --> 01:52:25,607
it.

3837
01:52:25,607 --> 01:52:28,607
Let's stop the blame game.

3838
01:52:30,179 --> 01:52:30,845
Support this regulation Make it

3839
01:52:30,845 --> 01:52:33,245
better to protect our

3840
01:52:34,917 --> 01:52:35,617
communities from

3841
01:52:35,617 --> 01:52:37,617
the financialization devouring

3842
01:52:39,221 --> 01:52:39,988
our housing market.

3843
01:52:39,988 --> 01:52:40,656
Together we can build a San

3844
01:52:40,656 --> 01:52:43,560
Diego where young families,

3845
01:52:44,460 --> 01:52:47,460
seniors and renters thrive safe

3846
01:52:48,163 --> 01:52:48,663
from the greed that fueled

3847
01:52:48,663 --> 01:52:49,398
the 2008 collapse.

3848
01:52:49,398 --> 01:52:52,398
Please be responsible and make

3849
01:52:53,669 --> 01:52:54,136
good policy.

3850
01:52:54,136 --> 01:52:54,536
>> Thank you.

3851
01:52:54,536 --> 01:52:55,403
Thank you.

3852
01:52:55,403 --> 01:52:58,140
If you have already spoken

3853
01:52:58,140 --> 01:52:58,807
please if you can return to

3854
01:52:58,807 --> 01:52:59,475
your seat to let the yellow

3855
01:52:59,475 --> 01:52:59,908
reserved seats be there for

3856
01:52:59,908 --> 01:53:01,908
other people.

3857
01:53:03,440 --> 01:53:03,746
Next is James Raney, Judy

3858
01:53:03,746 --> 01:53:06,146
Murphy, Britta Lindstrom, Evan

3859
01:53:08,550 --> 01:53:11,550
Strong and Kate Kaitlyn tamboli

3860
01:53:13,355 --> 01:53:13,689
Friedman and Maya Vander

3861
01:53:13,689 --> 01:53:14,523
Schuldt.

3862
01:53:14,523 --> 01:53:17,926
If you can all please come up

3863
01:53:17,926 --> 01:53:18,794
to the yellow reserved seats

3864
01:53:18,794 --> 01:53:22,131
And James you can come up to

3865
01:53:22,131 --> 01:53:22,932
the microphone microphone.

3866
01:53:22,932 --> 01:53:25,332
>> I almost said microwave

3867
01:53:27,970 --> 01:53:28,771
James that you have time seated

3868
01:53:28,771 --> 01:53:29,538
to you by Sandra if you can

3869
01:53:29,538 --> 01:53:32,674
please raise your hand And then

3870
01:53:32,674 --> 01:53:33,341
you have one additional slip

3871
01:53:33,341 --> 01:53:34,176
that has no name on it.

3872
01:53:34,176 --> 01:53:37,479
>> Do you know who seated you

3873
01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:37,780
time as Linda MAY get your

3874
01:53:37,780 --> 01:53:38,213
name?

3875
01:53:38,213 --> 01:53:38,848
>> Thank you.

3876
01:53:38,848 --> 01:53:39,314
You'll have three minutes.

3877
01:53:39,314 --> 01:53:41,314
Please proceed.

3878
01:53:42,384 --> 01:53:43,152
Thank you.

3879
01:53:43,152 --> 01:53:43,886
My name is James Rainey.

3880
01:53:43,886 --> 01:53:44,285
I've lived in San Diego my

3881
01:53:44,285 --> 01:53:46,285
entire life.

3882
01:53:46,955 --> 01:53:47,656
We purchased our home and

3883
01:53:47,656 --> 01:53:48,257
the How much our community of

3884
01:53:48,257 --> 01:53:50,257
District 424 years ago.

3885
01:53:52,161 --> 01:53:52,862
I've seen neighbors come and go

3886
01:53:52,862 --> 01:53:53,529
homes rebuilt and added onto.

3887
01:53:53,529 --> 01:53:56,432
But my neighbors and I have

3888
01:53:56,432 --> 01:53:57,165
never been threatened by a

3889
01:53:57,165 --> 01:54:00,165
proposal to transform our quiet

3890
01:54:01,469 --> 01:54:02,710
single family mostly single

3891
01:54:02,710 --> 01:54:02,738
story neighborhood into

3892
01:54:02,738 --> 01:54:05,138
the possibility of unlimited

3893
01:54:06,642 --> 01:54:07,443
two storey apartment buildings

3894
01:54:07,443 --> 01:54:07,943
with a proposed project at 1441

3895
01:54:07,943 --> 01:54:09,943
Wood Jo Avenue.

3896
01:54:11,347 --> 01:54:13,747
This proposal consists of

3897
01:54:14,483 --> 01:54:15,184
the construction of six two

3898
01:54:15,184 --> 01:54:16,180
storey 80 new buildings which

3899
01:54:16,180 --> 01:54:19,154
is 1280 use in the backyard of

3900
01:54:19,154 --> 01:54:19,855
an existing 1290 nine square

3901
01:54:19,855 --> 01:54:22,855
foot lot single storey house

3902
01:54:23,625 --> 01:54:24,600
which the city currently allows

3903
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:24,626
by San Diego.

3904
01:54:24,626 --> 01:54:26,626
Bonus 80 You program.

3905
01:54:28,970 --> 01:54:28,664
There are more than 80

3906
01:54:28,664 --> 01:54:30,664
properties on Woodrow.

3907
01:54:32,101 --> 01:54:32,735
Of which 40 are 10,000ft or

3908
01:54:32,735 --> 01:54:33,436
larger most of which could

3909
01:54:33,436 --> 01:54:35,836
potentially be overbuilt with

3910
01:54:37,606 --> 01:54:38,273
bonus program Two story ideas.

3911
01:54:38,273 --> 01:54:41,110
I've come to realize that

3912
01:54:41,110 --> 01:54:41,811
the city has no plans to

3913
01:54:41,811 --> 01:54:44,811
eliminate or at least restrict

3914
01:54:45,414 --> 01:54:46,810
the bonus edu incentives for rs

3915
01:54:46,810 --> 01:54:46,782
one seven Zone's properties.

3916
01:54:46,782 --> 01:54:50,382
We asked that the Council and

3917
01:54:50,653 --> 01:54:51,320
committee members visit Woodrow

3918
01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:52,210
Avenue and see for yourself

3919
01:54:52,210 --> 01:54:54,390
what this proposal would do to

3920
01:54:54,390 --> 01:54:55,570
this neighborhood.

3921
01:54:55,570 --> 01:54:55,792
We are respectfully asking

3922
01:54:55,792 --> 01:54:59,992
the city of San Diego to reject

3923
01:55:00,620 --> 01:55:00,762
any just deny the proposed two

3924
01:55:00,762 --> 01:55:01,497
story bonus any new project on

3925
01:55:01,497 --> 01:55:04,433
Wonder Avenue before it breaks

3926
01:55:04,433 --> 01:55:05,134
ground.

3927
01:55:05,134 --> 01:55:05,568
Those developers will live in

3928
01:55:05,568 --> 01:55:06,102
our community.

3929
01:55:06,102 --> 01:55:08,502
They don't see that.

3930
01:55:08,804 --> 01:55:09,472
They only see profits.

3931
01:55:09,472 --> 01:55:09,905
They don't see the beauty in

3932
01:55:09,905 --> 01:55:10,473
our community.

3933
01:55:10,473 --> 01:55:12,873
They don't see unity.

3934
01:55:14,210 --> 01:55:14,877
They just see math.

3935
01:55:14,877 --> 01:55:15,544
They see additions to their

3936
01:55:15,544 --> 01:55:16,212
bottom lines while they use

3937
01:55:16,212 --> 01:55:18,714
their vision to destroy our

3938
01:55:18,714 --> 01:55:19,348
communities.

3939
01:55:19,348 --> 01:55:20,490
Older neighborhoods aren't

3940
01:55:20,490 --> 01:55:23,490
equipped to handle the strain

3941
01:55:23,986 --> 01:55:24,720
on infrastructure.

3942
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:25,254
There's plenty yellow signs out

3943
01:55:25,254 --> 01:55:27,254
here in opposition.

3944
01:55:28,924 --> 01:55:29,659
Just remember we elected you

3945
01:55:29,659 --> 01:55:30,260
guys to have our best interests

3946
01:55:30,260 --> 01:55:30,660
at heart.

3947
01:55:30,660 --> 01:55:31,661
Please follow through with

3948
01:55:31,661 --> 01:55:33,661
the campaign promises.

3949
01:55:34,597 --> 01:55:36,597
>> Thank you.

3950
01:55:39,735 --> 01:55:40,202
Judy Murphy.

3951
01:55:40,202 --> 01:55:42,202
Good afternoon.

3952
01:55:45,608 --> 01:55:49,808
We need your help Us the people

3953
01:55:50,313 --> 01:55:50,780
that voted for you to be our

3954
01:55:50,780 --> 01:55:52,780
representatives.

3955
01:55:54,217 --> 01:55:54,783
>> Represent us, not

3956
01:55:54,783 --> 01:55:55,151
the developers and not

3957
01:55:55,151 --> 01:55:57,151
the mayor.

3958
01:55:58,988 --> 01:55:59,856
>> We need some common sense

3959
01:55:59,856 --> 01:56:00,223
and logic when it comes to city

3960
01:56:00,223 --> 01:56:02,223
planning.

3961
01:56:04,260 --> 01:56:04,493
We don't want another Altadena

3962
01:56:04,493 --> 01:56:05,394
or Palisades.

3963
01:56:05,394 --> 01:56:09,265
We need an avenue to escape an

3964
01:56:09,265 --> 01:56:09,999
overcrowded neighborhoods that

3965
01:56:09,999 --> 01:56:12,999
have narrow streets and minimal

3966
01:56:14,203 --> 01:56:15,300
arteries aren't conducive to

3967
01:56:15,300 --> 01:56:15,371
quick egress in the event of an

3968
01:56:15,371 --> 01:56:15,938
emergency.

3969
01:56:15,938 --> 01:56:17,938
They can't accommodate

3970
01:56:19,675 --> 01:56:22,750
emergency vehicles adding large

3971
01:56:23,646 --> 01:56:24,180
scale adu complexes, apartment

3972
01:56:24,180 --> 01:56:26,180
buildings turns our

3973
01:56:28,384 --> 01:56:28,684
neighborhoods into death traps

3974
01:56:28,684 --> 01:56:29,352
.

3975
01:56:29,352 --> 01:56:29,985
If nothing else, think about

3976
01:56:29,985 --> 01:56:30,353
the lawsuits you could be

3977
01:56:30,353 --> 01:56:32,353
avoiding.

3978
01:56:33,856 --> 01:56:34,691
You can stop this.

3979
01:56:34,691 --> 01:56:38,291
Show us your courage to stand

3980
01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:39,161
up against the mayor and

3981
01:56:39,161 --> 01:56:39,862
developers.

3982
01:56:39,862 --> 01:56:43,462
Show us that you represent us.

3983
01:56:49,505 --> 01:56:49,839
No more than four police Britta

3984
01:56:49,839 --> 01:56:50,206
.

3985
01:56:50,206 --> 01:56:52,206
>> Hello.

3986
01:56:54,377 --> 01:56:55,440
I'm asking you to remove

3987
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:58,440
outliers from the bonus Edu

3988
01:56:58,915 --> 01:56:59,649
program Specifically projects

3989
01:56:59,649 --> 01:57:00,350
with five or more units.

3990
01:57:00,350 --> 01:57:03,350
One extreme example that we've

3991
01:57:03,686 --> 01:57:07,900
heard of is the Pacifica City

3992
01:57:07,900 --> 01:57:10,900
Project a 116 micro units just

3993
01:57:11,161 --> 01:57:12,280
450ft each with minimal

3994
01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:12,295
parking and only one way in and

3995
01:57:12,295 --> 01:57:12,795
out.

3996
01:57:12,795 --> 01:57:13,263
That's not infill.

3997
01:57:13,263 --> 01:57:15,263
That's loophole.

3998
01:57:16,666 --> 01:57:17,299
It's bypasses planning, fire

3999
01:57:17,299 --> 01:57:17,667
safety and infrastructure

4000
01:57:17,667 --> 01:57:19,667
standards.

4001
01:57:21,571 --> 01:57:23,571
These so-called affordable

4002
01:57:24,807 --> 01:57:25,508
units rent for 2600 to $3000 a

4003
01:57:25,508 --> 01:57:26,142
month and the developer avoids

4004
01:57:26,142 --> 01:57:28,542
around 5 million in fees.

4005
01:57:29,645 --> 01:57:30,413
Is this affordable housing?

4006
01:57:30,413 --> 01:57:32,813
No, it's developer windfall.

4007
01:57:35,180 --> 01:57:35,752
City Council must place a hold

4008
01:57:35,752 --> 01:57:38,752
on all current applications and

4009
01:57:39,422 --> 01:57:40,230
prevent these outlier abuses

4010
01:57:40,230 --> 01:57:40,723
from becoming a reality.

4011
01:57:40,723 --> 01:57:41,323
You've seen the devastating

4012
01:57:41,323 --> 01:57:43,723
effects of the outliers.

4013
01:57:45,495 --> 01:57:46,296
Don't let it keep happening.

4014
01:57:46,296 --> 01:57:46,629
And as you heard today you can

4015
01:57:46,629 --> 01:57:48,629
stop it.

4016
01:57:48,965 --> 01:57:49,566
Please represent us.

4017
01:57:49,566 --> 01:57:51,566
>> Thank you.

4018
01:57:53,970 --> 01:57:54,504
Evan Strawn.

4019
01:57:54,504 --> 01:57:55,104
>> Good afternoon.

4020
01:57:55,104 --> 01:57:57,104
Council PRESIDENT LaCava

4021
01:57:59,476 --> 01:58:00,143
Council members My name is Evan

4022
01:58:00,143 --> 01:58:00,843
Strawn speaking on behalf of

4023
01:58:00,843 --> 01:58:01,243
the San Diego Regional Chamber

4024
01:58:01,243 --> 01:58:03,243
of Commerce.

4025
01:58:04,213 --> 01:58:04,914
Our mission is to make the San

4026
01:58:04,914 --> 01:58:05,348
Diego region the best place to

4027
01:58:05,348 --> 01:58:06,149
live and work.

4028
01:58:06,149 --> 01:58:09,386
At the end of the day our

4029
01:58:09,386 --> 01:58:10,253
workforce needs housing.

4030
01:58:10,253 --> 01:58:10,921
This has been a program that's

4031
01:58:10,921 --> 01:58:11,354
been successful at creating

4032
01:58:11,354 --> 01:58:13,354
that housing.

4033
01:58:14,558 --> 01:58:15,324
We've had a lot of changes.

4034
01:58:15,324 --> 01:58:15,992
We've had a lot of hearings.

4035
01:58:15,992 --> 01:58:18,992
We're all tired but there's

4036
01:58:19,562 --> 01:58:20,162
still an opportunity today for

4037
01:58:20,162 --> 01:58:20,863
council to even after

4038
01:58:20,863 --> 01:58:23,263
the program eliminated certain

4039
01:58:24,467 --> 01:58:25,200
hours zones can be enhanced

4040
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:25,801
with larger setbacks cul de sac

4041
01:58:25,801 --> 01:58:27,801
provision fire sprinkler

4042
01:58:28,604 --> 01:58:28,905
requirements, height limit unit

4043
01:58:28,905 --> 01:58:29,673
cap.

4044
01:58:29,673 --> 01:58:29,972
All of those things means less

4045
01:58:29,972 --> 01:58:30,573
homes.

4046
01:58:30,573 --> 01:58:31,740
That's the bottom line.

4047
01:58:31,740 --> 01:58:33,474
We all know that.

4048
01:58:33,910 --> 01:58:34,611
I think everyone in this room

4049
01:58:34,611 --> 01:58:34,911
today would not disagree with

4050
01:58:34,911 --> 01:58:35,545
that.

4051
01:58:35,545 --> 01:58:37,847
Regardless of what side of

4052
01:58:37,847 --> 01:58:38,615
the debate you're on at the end

4053
01:58:38,615 --> 01:58:39,349
of the day we need homes for

4054
01:58:39,349 --> 01:58:40,500
our workforce and there's still

4055
01:58:40,500 --> 01:58:43,500
an opportunity for council to

4056
01:58:43,286 --> 01:58:43,753
move forward to salvage parts

4057
01:58:43,753 --> 01:58:44,454
of the program.

4058
01:58:44,454 --> 01:58:45,222
And then let's move past this

4059
01:58:45,222 --> 01:58:47,991
Let's move on to how is this

4060
01:58:47,991 --> 01:58:48,692
going to continue to be a pro

4061
01:58:48,692 --> 01:58:49,358
housing council, a pro housing

4062
01:58:49,358 --> 01:58:51,758
city through other policies

4063
01:58:52,596 --> 01:58:53,230
other than this program that we

4064
01:58:53,230 --> 01:58:53,697
can hopefully agree on and

4065
01:58:53,697 --> 01:58:54,364
coalesce around?

4066
01:58:54,364 --> 01:58:54,731
>> So that's our ask today.

4067
01:58:54,731 --> 01:58:56,731
Thank you.

4068
01:58:58,268 --> 01:58:59,236
Thank you, Kate Kelly.

4069
01:58:59,236 --> 01:59:01,804
>> You have time to go to by

4070
01:59:01,804 --> 01:59:02,439
Karen Howard if you can please

4071
01:59:02,439 --> 01:59:02,773
raise your hand or cutting

4072
01:59:02,773 --> 01:59:03,340
Howard.

4073
01:59:03,340 --> 01:59:06,340
I'm sorry if I missed.

4074
01:59:06,843 --> 01:59:07,143
Thank you so much and vice

4075
01:59:07,143 --> 01:59:07,444
versa.

4076
01:59:07,444 --> 01:59:07,944
Gross.

4077
01:59:07,944 --> 01:59:10,344
Thank you so much.

4078
01:59:11,715 --> 01:59:12,249
You'll have three minutes

4079
01:59:12,249 --> 01:59:12,882
before you proceed.

4080
01:59:12,882 --> 01:59:16,482
If I can just ask Tamboli

4081
01:59:17,153 --> 01:59:17,821
Friedman Maya Vander Shultz,

4082
01:59:17,821 --> 01:59:20,821
Hap Manning, Adrian Luna now

4083
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:22,793
with MS..

4084
01:59:22,793 --> 01:59:23,627
MR. Tobey and Daniel Scott.

4085
01:59:23,627 --> 01:59:26,997
Nick to please come up to

4086
01:59:26,997 --> 01:59:27,363
the Yellow Reserves seat at

4087
01:59:27,363 --> 01:59:27,998
the front.

4088
01:59:27,998 --> 01:59:28,465
Have three minutes please.

4089
01:59:28,465 --> 01:59:30,465
Please proceed.

4090
01:59:31,702 --> 01:59:32,536
Good afternoon.

4091
01:59:32,536 --> 01:59:33,236
As you know, community leaders

4092
01:59:33,236 --> 01:59:36,236
in every district are fighting

4093
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:37,674
the city's efforts to cram more

4094
01:59:37,674 --> 01:59:38,108
and more housing into our

4095
01:59:38,108 --> 01:59:40,108
neighborhoods.

4096
01:59:40,877 --> 01:59:41,612
Housing that is excessive in

4097
01:59:41,612 --> 01:59:42,346
scale and expensive in price.

4098
01:59:42,346 --> 01:59:45,946
We have gotten to know one

4099
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:46,750
another at meetings like this

4100
01:59:46,750 --> 01:59:47,830
and we've talked about joining

4101
01:59:47,830 --> 01:59:47,751
forces.

4102
01:59:47,751 --> 01:59:50,151
Massive public outrage over

4103
01:59:52,220 --> 01:59:52,756
monstrous bonus use has finally

4104
01:59:52,756 --> 01:59:56,393
united us as members of the new

4105
01:59:56,393 --> 01:59:57,361
San Diego community Coalition.

4106
01:59:57,361 --> 02:00:00,664
>> It is sad but true that

4107
02:00:00,664 --> 02:00:01,264
local politicians only seem to

4108
02:00:01,264 --> 02:00:01,865
care about three groups

4109
02:00:01,865 --> 02:00:04,265
the Chamber of Commerce,

4110
02:00:05,836 --> 02:00:06,169
the building industry and labor

4111
02:00:06,169 --> 02:00:06,837
unions.

4112
02:00:06,837 --> 02:00:07,471
Going forward the Community

4113
02:00:07,471 --> 02:00:09,871
Coalition will expect your

4114
02:00:11,410 --> 02:00:11,775
equal time and attention.

4115
02:00:11,775 --> 02:00:12,176
This citywide alliance is three

4116
02:00:12,176 --> 02:00:14,176
months old.

4117
02:00:16,346 --> 02:00:16,780
It includes 26 communities and

4118
02:00:16,780 --> 02:00:17,681
it is growing.

4119
02:00:17,681 --> 02:00:20,681
>> Neighbors for a better San

4120
02:00:21,484 --> 02:00:22,118
Diego helped launch us Save Our

4121
02:00:22,118 --> 02:00:22,485
Heritage organization has

4122
02:00:22,485 --> 02:00:24,485
joined us.

4123
02:00:26,256 --> 02:00:26,923
Our geographic reach extends

4124
02:00:26,923 --> 02:00:30,523
from Encanto in the South to

4125
02:00:30,994 --> 02:00:31,795
University City in the north

4126
02:00:31,795 --> 02:00:32,396
from El Sereno in the east to

4127
02:00:32,396 --> 02:00:35,396
Ocean Beach in the West.

4128
02:00:36,667 --> 02:00:37,234
Together we will be relentless

4129
02:00:37,234 --> 02:00:39,234
in fighting predatory

4130
02:00:40,237 --> 02:00:40,537
development wherever it occurs

4131
02:00:40,537 --> 02:00:41,204
.

4132
02:00:41,204 --> 02:00:41,839
Together we will demand that

4133
02:00:41,839 --> 02:00:44,239
elected officials give us

4134
02:00:45,509 --> 02:00:46,276
the respect you owe us.

4135
02:00:46,276 --> 02:00:47,430
Today we speak for tens of

4136
02:00:47,430 --> 02:00:50,643
thousands of San Diego and San

4137
02:00:50,814 --> 02:00:51,281
Diegans who believe four is

4138
02:00:51,281 --> 02:00:53,281
fair everywhere.

4139
02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:56,653
They know for a fact that bonus

4140
02:00:56,653 --> 02:00:59,530
ideas will not solve

4141
02:01:00,323 --> 02:01:01,910
the affordable housing crisis.

4142
02:01:01,910 --> 02:01:01,792
And they know bonus IOUs will

4143
02:01:01,792 --> 02:01:02,125
never solved the homelessness

4144
02:01:02,125 --> 02:01:04,125
crisis.

4145
02:01:05,395 --> 02:01:06,630
You insult your constituents

4146
02:01:06,630 --> 02:01:08,463
when you pretend otherwise.

4147
02:01:10,300 --> 02:01:10,968
It is even more offensive to

4148
02:01:10,968 --> 02:01:11,769
say that opposition to bonus

4149
02:01:11,769 --> 02:01:15,369
use is rooted in rich racial

4150
02:01:15,639 --> 02:01:15,939
prejudice and socioeconomic

4151
02:01:15,939 --> 02:01:16,640
bias.

4152
02:01:16,640 --> 02:01:19,610
And I'm sorry MR. Ello Rivera

4153
02:01:19,610 --> 02:01:20,277
isn't here.

4154
02:01:20,277 --> 02:01:20,944
He's been missing from this

4155
02:01:20,944 --> 02:01:21,612
meeting for quite some time.

4156
02:01:21,612 --> 02:01:24,612
If that's the story you're

4157
02:01:24,848 --> 02:01:25,516
pushing coalition members in

4158
02:01:25,516 --> 02:01:27,516
underserved communities like

4159
02:01:29,953 --> 02:01:30,654
Encanto and Hamsher and Choice

4160
02:01:30,654 --> 02:01:34,254
Valley would like a word with

4161
02:01:34,991 --> 02:01:35,292
you when you cast your vote

4162
02:01:35,292 --> 02:01:35,960
today.

4163
02:01:35,960 --> 02:01:38,360
Remember that our coalition

4164
02:01:39,663 --> 02:01:40,363
communities are fighting

4165
02:01:40,363 --> 02:01:41,980
predatory development together

4166
02:01:41,980 --> 02:01:44,368
and we will never stop fighting

4167
02:01:44,368 --> 02:01:44,768
it together.

4168
02:01:44,768 --> 02:01:45,135
Thank you.

4169
02:01:45,135 --> 02:01:47,135
Thank you.

4170
02:01:51,708 --> 02:01:52,576
Next is timbre Friedman.

4171
02:01:52,576 --> 02:01:53,243
>> You have time to two by

4172
02:01:53,243 --> 02:01:55,643
Mauricio Juarez Please raise

4173
02:01:57,460 --> 02:01:57,548
your hand.

4174
02:01:57,548 --> 02:01:58,282
>> Hi there.

4175
02:01:58,282 --> 02:01:58,782
I just have one favor to ask.

4176
02:01:58,782 --> 02:02:00,782
I'm sorry, ma'am.

4177
02:02:02,119 --> 02:02:02,586
I can't really tambourine.

4178
02:02:02,586 --> 02:02:03,253
Wait one second.

4179
02:02:03,253 --> 02:02:03,988
I'm just trying to get

4180
02:02:03,988 --> 02:02:04,289
the other people to raise their

4181
02:02:04,289 --> 02:02:04,755
hand.

4182
02:02:04,755 --> 02:02:06,755
Adam King.

4183
02:02:10,861 --> 02:02:11,195
Adam King for his daughter

4184
02:02:11,195 --> 02:02:13,195
outside.

4185
02:02:19,236 --> 02:02:20,103
>> And then Mauricio Juarez.

4186
02:02:20,103 --> 02:02:20,804
They do need to be present in

4187
02:02:20,804 --> 02:02:21,539
order to see time And I'm not

4188
02:02:21,539 --> 02:02:24,539
having any of these people

4189
02:02:27,111 --> 02:02:27,878
raise their hands right now.

4190
02:02:27,878 --> 02:02:28,278
So you'll have one minute.

4191
02:02:28,278 --> 02:02:28,579
He's coming.

4192
02:02:28,579 --> 02:02:28,946
Okay.

4193
02:02:28,946 --> 02:02:30,946
All right.

4194
02:02:32,482 --> 02:02:33,250
So you'll have two minutes.

4195
02:02:33,250 --> 02:02:36,250
>> Hi, my name is Campbell.

4196
02:02:36,620 --> 02:02:37,321
I would like to ask each one of

4197
02:02:37,321 --> 02:02:38,550
you to please look me in

4198
02:02:38,550 --> 02:02:38,789
the eye when I'm talking to you

4199
02:02:38,789 --> 02:02:41,725
and not look at your computers.

4200
02:02:41,725 --> 02:02:44,725
>> The edu complex that are

4201
02:02:45,529 --> 02:02:46,230
going up in our area we only

4202
02:02:46,230 --> 02:02:46,731
have one main road to evacuate

4203
02:02:46,731 --> 02:02:49,131
for a fire event.

4204
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:50,434
We are surrounded by extreme

4205
02:02:50,434 --> 02:02:53,434
fire zone in the canyons.

4206
02:02:54,739 --> 02:02:55,438
>> I'm asking you to implement

4207
02:02:55,438 --> 02:02:55,773
policies that enable you to

4208
02:02:55,773 --> 02:02:56,440
look at.

4209
02:02:56,440 --> 02:02:59,440
Michelle, please look at me.

4210
02:03:00,211 --> 02:03:00,878
I'm asking you to implement

4211
02:03:00,878 --> 02:03:03,878
policies that enable you to

4212
02:03:04,949 --> 02:03:05,616
make decisions on individual

4213
02:03:05,616 --> 02:03:06,217
neighborhoods based on their

4214
02:03:06,217 --> 02:03:06,717
configuration and their

4215
02:03:06,717 --> 02:03:08,717
evacuation routes.

4216
02:03:09,854 --> 02:03:13,424
We have 500 homes which means a

4217
02:03:13,424 --> 02:03:14,224
thousand cars that only have

4218
02:03:14,224 --> 02:03:14,925
one way to get out of our

4219
02:03:14,925 --> 02:03:15,226
neighborhood in the event of a

4220
02:03:15,226 --> 02:03:17,226
fire.

4221
02:03:18,329 --> 02:03:18,996
So I'm asking you to implement

4222
02:03:18,996 --> 02:03:19,663
policies that will look at

4223
02:03:19,663 --> 02:03:22,630
these neighborhoods and base

4224
02:03:23,868 --> 02:03:26,868
solid decisions on making sure

4225
02:03:26,904 --> 02:03:27,571
you keep our safety and fire

4226
02:03:27,571 --> 02:03:28,306
prevention as a number one

4227
02:03:28,306 --> 02:03:28,605
priority so that everyone stays

4228
02:03:28,605 --> 02:03:30,605
safe.

4229
02:03:32,642 --> 02:03:34,642
Thank you, Mayor.

4230
02:03:37,348 --> 02:03:38,115
You have time to lead by rise

4231
02:03:38,115 --> 02:03:38,583
Marques rise If you can please

4232
02:03:38,583 --> 02:03:39,117
raise your hand.

4233
02:03:39,117 --> 02:03:39,516
>> He had to leave.

4234
02:03:39,516 --> 02:03:40,551
Okay.

4235
02:03:40,551 --> 02:03:43,551
And you'll have one minute.

4236
02:03:46,290 --> 02:03:46,691
Please proceed.

4237
02:03:46,691 --> 02:03:46,991
Right now?

4238
02:03:46,991 --> 02:03:47,291
Yeah.

4239
02:03:47,291 --> 02:03:47,692
Okay.

4240
02:03:47,692 --> 02:03:48,392
Hi everyone.

4241
02:03:48,392 --> 02:03:50,628
My name is Maya Vander Shute.

4242
02:03:50,628 --> 02:03:51,362
My partner and I moved to Pike

4243
02:03:51,362 --> 02:03:52,960
Place in FEBRUARY of this year.

4244
02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:54,496
Our neighborhood sits between

4245
02:03:55,867 --> 02:03:56,601
the tri canyons and urban

4246
02:03:56,601 --> 02:04:00,201
canyon system that Cal Fire has

4247
02:04:00,804 --> 02:04:01,539
assessed as high fire risk.

4248
02:04:01,539 --> 02:04:02,373
Under current policy the city

4249
02:04:02,373 --> 02:04:05,877
and state allow 80 use to be

4250
02:04:05,877 --> 02:04:06,544
approved Ministerial ignoring

4251
02:04:06,544 --> 02:04:08,944
secure protections meant to

4252
02:04:09,947 --> 02:04:10,748
reduce wildfire danger.

4253
02:04:10,748 --> 02:04:11,480
This puts our communities at

4254
02:04:11,480 --> 02:04:11,716
risk.

4255
02:04:11,716 --> 02:04:14,716
I believe in building more

4256
02:04:15,485 --> 02:04:16,153
affordable housing but let's be

4257
02:04:16,153 --> 02:04:16,454
honest about what affordable

4258
02:04:16,454 --> 02:04:18,454
means.

4259
02:04:19,590 --> 02:04:20,224
Right now it's based on a 110%

4260
02:04:20,224 --> 02:04:20,958
of the area median income

4261
02:04:20,958 --> 02:04:24,558
That's a six figure sag salary.

4262
02:04:25,129 --> 02:04:25,830
If you need to make over six

4263
02:04:25,830 --> 02:04:28,830
figures to qualify that's not

4264
02:04:29,566 --> 02:04:29,901
affordable to most San Diego's

4265
02:04:29,901 --> 02:04:30,534
.

4266
02:04:30,534 --> 02:04:31,269
I've worked multiple jobs

4267
02:04:31,269 --> 02:04:33,669
simultaneously and received fbt

4268
02:04:35,239 --> 02:04:35,606
benefits just as they housed in

4269
02:04:35,606 --> 02:04:36,441
San Diego.

4270
02:04:36,441 --> 02:04:39,441
ADAs have their place but

4271
02:04:39,911 --> 02:04:40,578
responsibly cramming

4272
02:04:40,578 --> 02:04:42,578
innumerable studio style 80

4273
02:04:45,149 --> 02:04:45,817
into backyards especially in

4274
02:04:45,817 --> 02:04:46,217
high fire risk areas isn't

4275
02:04:46,217 --> 02:04:47,180
the answer.

4276
02:04:47,180 --> 02:04:50,618
In North Claremont some of my

4277
02:04:52,900 --> 02:04:52,823
neighbors rent whole homes for

4278
02:04:52,823 --> 02:04:53,524
leisure time Half the clients a

4279
02:04:53,524 --> 02:04:55,926
single bedroom if you like to

4280
02:04:55,926 --> 02:04:56,627
email any of those comments we

4281
02:04:56,627 --> 02:04:56,961
can definitely distribute them

4282
02:04:56,961 --> 02:04:58,961
as well.

4283
02:04:59,964 --> 02:05:00,632
You think you have many You

4284
02:05:00,632 --> 02:05:01,132
have time seated by Cheyenne

4285
02:05:01,132 --> 02:05:03,132
Bullock over here.

4286
02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:05,670
Thank you so much.

4287
02:05:05,670 --> 02:05:06,137
>> You have two minutes.

4288
02:05:06,137 --> 02:05:08,137
Please proceed.

4289
02:05:09,473 --> 02:05:10,740
Thank you for the opportunity

4290
02:05:10,740 --> 02:05:10,541
to speak to you.

4291
02:05:10,541 --> 02:05:11,175
I'm Hap Manning.

4292
02:05:11,175 --> 02:05:12,143
I live on Pine Place.

4293
02:05:12,143 --> 02:05:14,312
It's a small quaint street in a

4294
02:05:14,312 --> 02:05:14,679
legacy neighborhood in North

4295
02:05:14,679 --> 02:05:15,380
Claremont.

4296
02:05:15,380 --> 02:05:16,113
Here it expresses my shock and

4297
02:05:16,113 --> 02:05:19,113
outrage for the predatory bills

4298
02:05:19,250 --> 02:05:19,951
that are being proposed and

4299
02:05:19,951 --> 02:05:20,251
will destroy the street I grew

4300
02:05:20,251 --> 02:05:20,852
up on.

4301
02:05:20,852 --> 02:05:21,386
Proposed bills that will

4302
02:05:21,386 --> 02:05:23,386
negatively alter my

4303
02:05:24,722 --> 02:05:25,756
neighborhood forever.

4304
02:05:25,756 --> 02:05:26,191
To me I see it as a rip off my

4305
02:05:26,191 --> 02:05:28,191
entire block.

4306
02:05:29,293 --> 02:05:30,610
I'm asking you to immediately

4307
02:05:30,610 --> 02:05:30,461
pause all bills that are being

4308
02:05:30,461 --> 02:05:31,129
considered.

4309
02:05:31,129 --> 02:05:31,829
I'm asking for an immediate

4310
02:05:31,829 --> 02:05:34,229
review The secret requirements

4311
02:05:34,666 --> 02:05:34,999
as they pertain to these vulgar

4312
02:05:34,999 --> 02:05:35,599
permits.

4313
02:05:35,599 --> 02:05:38,599
The state mandate is for

4314
02:05:39,904 --> 02:05:42,304
proposed predatory built for

4315
02:05:43,141 --> 02:05:43,875
4511 Paiute is 12 for 44 2010.

4316
02:05:43,875 --> 02:05:44,742
These bills are fire hazard.

4317
02:05:44,742 --> 02:05:47,979
We live in a canyon rim where

4318
02:05:47,979 --> 02:05:48,713
fire is always at risk.

4319
02:05:48,713 --> 02:05:49,413
Cars will fill up our street

4320
02:05:49,413 --> 02:05:52,784
making it very difficult for a

4321
02:05:52,784 --> 02:05:53,251
fire engine to negotiate

4322
02:05:53,251 --> 02:05:53,951
the squeeze.

4323
02:05:53,951 --> 02:05:54,485
Please stop telling us there's

4324
02:05:54,485 --> 02:05:56,885
nothing you can do.

4325
02:05:58,523 --> 02:05:59,256
Please help us stop this

4326
02:05:59,256 --> 02:06:02,856
madness And don't let the bonus

4327
02:06:03,161 --> 02:06:03,927
aid program be your legacy.

4328
02:06:03,927 --> 02:06:04,595
When your kids and grandkids

4329
02:06:04,595 --> 02:06:07,595
ask what you accomplished on

4330
02:06:08,599 --> 02:06:09,334
the San Diego City Council, you

4331
02:06:09,334 --> 02:06:10,168
need to tell them the truth and

4332
02:06:10,168 --> 02:06:13,768
say Well, I was complicit in

4333
02:06:13,938 --> 02:06:14,472
destroying the character of

4334
02:06:14,472 --> 02:06:16,541
some of San Diego's

4335
02:06:16,541 --> 02:06:17,175
neighborhoods hurting so many

4336
02:06:17,175 --> 02:06:20,175
San Diegans along the way.

4337
02:06:20,612 --> 02:06:22,612
>> I'm done.

4338
02:06:25,984 --> 02:06:26,851
Thank you, Adrian.

4339
02:06:26,851 --> 02:06:27,619
>> Adrian Luna after that is

4340
02:06:27,619 --> 02:06:30,619
now with most notably Daniel

4341
02:06:31,323 --> 02:06:33,323
Schleicher Schnucks Slotnick.

4342
02:06:35,559 --> 02:06:36,610
Slotnick Thank you Joy Sonata

4343
02:06:36,610 --> 02:06:36,828
and Dave Nicholai.

4344
02:06:36,828 --> 02:06:40,298
If you can start making your

4345
02:06:40,298 --> 02:06:40,932
way up.

4346
02:06:40,932 --> 02:06:41,666
>> Please proceed.

4347
02:06:41,666 --> 02:06:42,267
Good afternoon Council members.

4348
02:06:42,267 --> 02:06:45,267
My name is Adrian Luna.

4349
02:06:46,300 --> 02:06:46,571
I'm here today on behalf of

4350
02:06:46,571 --> 02:06:47,172
the Building Industry

4351
02:06:47,172 --> 02:06:47,505
Association of San Diego

4352
02:06:47,505 --> 02:06:49,505
County.

4353
02:06:50,976 --> 02:06:51,676
As homebuilders ranging from

4354
02:06:51,676 --> 02:06:52,443
large planned developments to

4355
02:06:52,443 --> 02:06:55,800
small infill or even a2 use we

4356
02:06:55,800 --> 02:06:55,713
know as do you that today's

4357
02:06:55,713 --> 02:06:58,713
housing crisis calls on a

4358
02:06:59,651 --> 02:07:00,519
diversity of housing and that

4359
02:07:00,519 --> 02:07:00,884
more homes is a good thing for

4360
02:07:00,884 --> 02:07:02,884
our city.

4361
02:07:04,550 --> 02:07:04,689
Like others who have experience

4362
02:07:04,689 --> 02:07:05,390
in this industry creating

4363
02:07:05,390 --> 02:07:06,230
housing for our workforce, we

4364
02:07:06,230 --> 02:07:09,230
ask that the city increase

4365
02:07:09,126 --> 02:07:09,861
the lot sizes and corresponding

4366
02:07:09,861 --> 02:07:10,428
unit caps to allow this program

4367
02:07:10,428 --> 02:07:12,828
to continue to provide

4368
02:07:14,132 --> 02:07:14,866
meaningful unit counts.

4369
02:07:14,866 --> 02:07:15,533
>> This Council has been strong

4370
02:07:15,533 --> 02:07:18,203
housing advocates and we are

4371
02:07:18,203 --> 02:07:18,870
grateful to you for that.

4372
02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:19,504
And for the pro housing

4373
02:07:19,504 --> 02:07:21,504
policies recently created.

4374
02:07:23,508 --> 02:07:24,109
Please allow this program to

4375
02:07:24,109 --> 02:07:24,810
continue to help develop

4376
02:07:24,810 --> 02:07:27,810
housing where it's most needed

4377
02:07:28,580 --> 02:07:29,281
near transit, near economic

4378
02:07:29,281 --> 02:07:29,714
opportunities and educational

4379
02:07:29,714 --> 02:07:31,714
institutions.

4380
02:07:33,284 --> 02:07:33,785
Thank you.

4381
02:07:33,785 --> 02:07:34,553
Thank you.

4382
02:07:34,553 --> 02:07:37,756
Maybe you have time ceded to

4383
02:07:37,756 --> 02:07:38,156
you by Christine Nelson.

4384
02:07:38,156 --> 02:07:38,557
Thank you.

4385
02:07:38,557 --> 02:07:40,557
Leah Taylor.

4386
02:07:42,794 --> 02:07:43,263
Adam.

4387
02:07:43,263 --> 02:07:45,263
Allan Navarro.

4388
02:07:47,132 --> 02:07:47,532
Kathy Hirsch Hirsch.

4389
02:07:47,532 --> 02:07:48,000
Thank you.

4390
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:50,000
Randy lit up.

4391
02:07:52,237 --> 02:07:52,837
Thank you Patricia for having

4392
02:07:52,837 --> 02:07:55,237
or for me Patricia.

4393
02:07:56,407 --> 02:07:58,407
Thank you, Colleen.

4394
02:08:01,580 --> 02:08:01,880
Mike Don Mel and Lou Farrell.

4395
02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:03,880
Okay.

4396
02:08:05,350 --> 02:08:05,884
You will have 11 minutes.

4397
02:08:05,884 --> 02:08:07,884
>> Please proceed.

4398
02:08:10,870 --> 02:08:10,756
We have a slide.

4399
02:08:10,756 --> 02:08:13,156
Hold on one second.

4400
02:08:20,232 --> 02:08:21,990
We have an individual okay.

4401
02:08:21,990 --> 02:08:22,166
>> We'll send someone out to

4402
02:08:22,166 --> 02:08:23,968
talk to you If you can put up

4403
02:08:23,968 --> 02:08:24,303
the slide four and have it

4404
02:08:24,303 --> 02:08:26,303
please.

4405
02:08:27,673 --> 02:08:28,440
I think it's David or you, but

4406
02:08:28,440 --> 02:08:32,400
it's not me That's your name,

4407
02:08:41,886 --> 02:08:43,886
right?

4408
02:09:08,613 --> 02:09:09,280
Thank you for your patience.

4409
02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:09,982
>> Good afternoon, Council

4410
02:09:09,982 --> 02:09:12,382
PRESIDENT And council members.

4411
02:09:12,818 --> 02:09:13,185
And to my fellow angry

4412
02:09:13,185 --> 02:09:13,685
citizens.

4413
02:09:13,685 --> 02:09:16,850
My name is Naveed.

4414
02:09:18,590 --> 02:09:19,291
Most of Tavi and I'm speaking

4415
02:09:19,291 --> 02:09:19,991
on behalf of the residents of

4416
02:09:19,991 --> 02:09:22,991
Pike Place in North Claremont.

4417
02:09:23,462 --> 02:09:24,163
Such as Hap who just spoke who

4418
02:09:24,163 --> 02:09:26,563
has 12 units being proposed

4419
02:09:27,465 --> 02:09:28,100
right next door to him.

4420
02:09:28,100 --> 02:09:28,733
We're here because the San

4421
02:09:28,733 --> 02:09:31,733
Diego Bonus Adu program is

4422
02:09:32,404 --> 02:09:32,938
being abused and the result is

4423
02:09:32,938 --> 02:09:33,605
public safety risk,

4424
02:09:33,605 --> 02:09:36,500
environmental neglect and a

4425
02:09:37,409 --> 02:09:37,742
complete disregard for zoning

4426
02:09:37,742 --> 02:09:38,243
intent.

4427
02:09:38,243 --> 02:09:40,243
Next slide please.

4428
02:09:42,348 --> 02:09:43,140
I'm here to represent

4429
02:09:43,140 --> 02:09:43,549
the residents of Pike Place

4430
02:09:43,549 --> 02:09:45,549
first and foremost.

4431
02:09:46,819 --> 02:09:47,152
But it's not just about one

4432
02:09:47,152 --> 02:09:47,820
street.

4433
02:09:47,820 --> 02:09:50,220
I'm representing San Diego's

4434
02:09:51,790 --> 02:09:52,458
San Diegans living in zones

4435
02:09:52,458 --> 02:09:54,858
being overrun by speculative

4436
02:09:56,795 --> 02:09:57,563
development homeowners who fear

4437
02:09:57,563 --> 02:09:58,230
a 2 to 3 storey apartment

4438
02:09:58,230 --> 02:10:00,765
building being built next to

4439
02:10:00,765 --> 02:10:01,500
their single family home.

4440
02:10:01,500 --> 02:10:02,166
Young families who are being

4441
02:10:02,166 --> 02:10:05,166
priced out of single family

4442
02:10:05,971 --> 02:10:06,638
homes by investors and

4443
02:10:06,638 --> 02:10:07,273
the taxpayers who will foot

4444
02:10:07,273 --> 02:10:10,273
the bill for poor planning

4445
02:10:11,143 --> 02:10:11,477
decisions made by our elected

4446
02:10:11,477 --> 02:10:13,477
leaders.

4447
02:10:16,348 --> 02:10:17,216
>> Next slide please.

4448
02:10:17,216 --> 02:10:19,451
Today we have a highly placed

4449
02:10:19,451 --> 02:10:20,152
are asking for three immediate

4450
02:10:20,152 --> 02:10:22,552
specific actions a moratorium

4451
02:10:24,523 --> 02:10:25,224
on the bonus edu program for

4452
02:10:25,224 --> 02:10:27,624
projects exceeding four units

4453
02:10:29,561 --> 02:10:30,296
so we can return to be in

4454
02:10:30,296 --> 02:10:33,896
alignment with the state law to

4455
02:10:34,233 --> 02:10:34,933
a pause in progress reviews

4456
02:10:34,933 --> 02:10:35,501
until California Department of

4457
02:10:35,501 --> 02:10:37,501
Housing and Community

4458
02:10:39,638 --> 02:10:40,439
Development can clarify San

4459
02:10:40,439 --> 02:10:42,839
Diego's unlimited nature of

4460
02:10:43,576 --> 02:10:44,343
the program.

4461
02:10:44,343 --> 02:10:47,343
>> Legal under state law is

4462
02:10:48,481 --> 02:10:48,781
illegal under secure exemptions

4463
02:10:48,781 --> 02:10:49,514
.

4464
02:10:49,514 --> 02:10:49,848
Does it qualify for ministerial

4465
02:10:49,848 --> 02:10:51,848
reviews?

4466
02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:53,452
Four is different than

4467
02:10:53,452 --> 02:10:54,850
unlimited.

4468
02:10:54,850 --> 02:10:57,850
Three and a restoration of

4469
02:10:58,560 --> 02:10:58,723
secret reviews for the larger

4470
02:10:58,723 --> 02:10:59,157
projects that are currently

4471
02:10:59,157 --> 02:11:01,157
under review.

4472
02:11:02,795 --> 02:11:04,795
Next slide please.

4473
02:11:07,299 --> 02:11:07,966
>> The codes are clear and

4474
02:11:07,966 --> 02:11:10,366
definitions matter rc zones

4475
02:11:12,238 --> 02:11:12,772
must avoid adverse impacts to

4476
02:11:12,772 --> 02:11:13,505
adjacent properties.

4477
02:11:13,505 --> 02:11:17,105
A2 use must be subordinate not

4478
02:11:17,376 --> 02:11:18,770
dominant.

4479
02:11:18,770 --> 02:11:18,678
Fire roads need 20ft of

4480
02:11:18,678 --> 02:11:21,780
clearance for two lanes.

4481
02:11:22,782 --> 02:11:23,415
Secret exemption tions do not

4482
02:11:23,415 --> 02:11:24,830
apply when there's unusual

4483
02:11:24,830 --> 02:11:24,416
circumstances and cumulative

4484
02:11:24,416 --> 02:11:26,416
impacts.

4485
02:11:27,886 --> 02:11:28,187
San Diego's bypassing all of

4486
02:11:28,187 --> 02:11:28,588
this.

4487
02:11:28,588 --> 02:11:30,588
Next slide.

4488
02:11:32,158 --> 02:11:32,858
Rc Zoning is meant for single

4489
02:11:32,858 --> 02:11:35,258
family homes 5000 square foot

4490
02:11:37,290 --> 02:11:40,290
or larger allowing 22 units on

4491
02:11:40,599 --> 02:11:41,133
Piatt Place across two

4492
02:11:41,133 --> 02:11:41,801
different parcels is

4493
02:11:41,801 --> 02:11:44,201
incompatible with the scale,

4494
02:11:45,671 --> 02:11:46,372
character and livability that

4495
02:11:46,372 --> 02:11:46,739
our zoning was designed to

4496
02:11:46,739 --> 02:11:48,739
preserve.

4497
02:11:49,775 --> 02:11:50,509
Reasonable use of property

4498
02:11:50,509 --> 02:11:52,909
while minimizing adverse impact

4499
02:11:54,813 --> 02:11:55,114
impacts to adjacent properties

4500
02:11:55,114 --> 02:11:55,614
.

4501
02:11:55,614 --> 02:11:57,614
>> Next slide.

4502
02:12:00,190 --> 02:12:00,653
The word accessory matters It

4503
02:12:00,653 --> 02:12:01,530
means secondary incidental

4504
02:12:01,530 --> 02:12:01,687
supportive.

4505
02:12:01,687 --> 02:12:04,687
It does not mean 12 units.

4506
02:12:05,658 --> 02:12:06,526
It does not mean ten units.

4507
02:12:06,526 --> 02:12:09,327
>> It does not mean 100 units.

4508
02:12:09,327 --> 02:12:10,290
These bonus eight use fail even

4509
02:12:10,290 --> 02:12:10,563
the basic legal definition of

4510
02:12:10,563 --> 02:12:12,563
the word accessory.

4511
02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:18,680
Next slide please.

4512
02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:21,940
Let's talk safety.

4513
02:12:21,940 --> 02:12:22,407
State fire code requires 20ft

4514
02:12:22,407 --> 02:12:24,407
of clear access.

4515
02:12:26,845 --> 02:12:27,547
Piatt Place only has 15ft When

4516
02:12:27,547 --> 02:12:27,947
cars are parked on both sides

4517
02:12:27,947 --> 02:12:29,947
of the road.

4518
02:12:31,317 --> 02:12:31,651
>> There's no known evacuation

4519
02:12:31,651 --> 02:12:32,418
plan.

4520
02:12:32,418 --> 02:12:32,985
We don't know of what the fire

4521
02:12:32,985 --> 02:12:34,985
department review was.

4522
02:12:36,655 --> 02:12:37,323
We don't know if there's any

4523
02:12:37,323 --> 02:12:37,957
infrastructure improvements

4524
02:12:37,957 --> 02:12:40,957
that are going to happen.

4525
02:12:41,460 --> 02:12:41,894
This project and others put

4526
02:12:41,894 --> 02:12:42,561
lives at risk.

4527
02:12:42,561 --> 02:12:44,561
>> Next slide please.

4528
02:12:46,299 --> 02:12:46,899
Ceqa is not optional when

4529
02:12:46,899 --> 02:12:48,899
impacts are cumulative.

4530
02:12:51,370 --> 02:12:51,637
State law says air is required

4531
02:12:51,637 --> 02:12:52,238
when projects combine to

4532
02:12:52,238 --> 02:12:54,238
degrade the environment.

4533
02:12:56,208 --> 02:12:59,208
The city cannot claim exemption

4534
02:13:00,346 --> 02:13:01,130
under section 1533 if it fails

4535
02:13:01,130 --> 02:13:04,130
to evaluate the other nearby

4536
02:13:05,284 --> 02:13:05,985
adu developments and how they

4537
02:13:05,985 --> 02:13:06,319
have a compound effect on one

4538
02:13:06,319 --> 02:13:07,190
another.

4539
02:13:07,190 --> 02:13:07,486
That's what's happening in San

4540
02:13:07,486 --> 02:13:09,486
Diego right now.

4541
02:13:10,523 --> 02:13:10,857
Let me summarize Next slide

4542
02:13:10,857 --> 02:13:12,857
please.

4543
02:13:15,594 --> 02:13:17,630
Let me summarize specifically

4544
02:13:17,630 --> 02:13:17,763
what's wrong with Pai Place.

4545
02:13:17,763 --> 02:13:19,763
>> Next slide please.

4546
02:13:22,936 --> 02:13:25,336
We have two developments 12

4547
02:13:26,706 --> 02:13:27,106
proposed on one lot ten on

4548
02:13:27,106 --> 02:13:27,974
another lot.

4549
02:13:27,974 --> 02:13:30,609
We're located in a very high

4550
02:13:30,609 --> 02:13:32,609
fire severity zone.

4551
02:13:34,580 --> 02:13:35,348
Access is limited through a 30

4552
02:13:35,348 --> 02:13:35,981
foot street curb to curb which

4553
02:13:35,981 --> 02:13:38,381
allows 15 foot of passage.

4554
02:13:39,719 --> 02:13:40,420
We put this diagram to show

4555
02:13:40,420 --> 02:13:43,889
where if every single car is

4556
02:13:43,889 --> 02:13:44,691
parked on the street two cars

4557
02:13:44,691 --> 02:13:47,691
can't pass for long stretches

4558
02:13:47,827 --> 02:13:49,827
up to 250ft.

4559
02:13:51,864 --> 02:13:52,398
Our driveways are only one car

4560
02:13:52,398 --> 02:13:54,398
wide 13 foot aprons.

4561
02:13:56,402 --> 02:13:57,169
Most houses can only fit one

4562
02:13:57,169 --> 02:13:57,503
car So street parking is not an

4563
02:13:57,503 --> 02:13:59,503
option.

4564
02:14:01,441 --> 02:14:02,142
It's mandatory three for

4565
02:14:02,142 --> 02:14:02,442
the majority of the residents

4566
02:14:02,442 --> 02:14:03,109
as is.

4567
02:14:03,109 --> 02:14:06,109
And now we're talking about

4568
02:14:09,448 --> 02:14:09,749
adding most likely 30 plus cars

4569
02:14:09,749 --> 02:14:10,352
.

4570
02:14:10,352 --> 02:14:10,717
There's been no sequence

4571
02:14:10,717 --> 02:14:11,451
analysis.

4572
02:14:11,451 --> 02:14:11,818
There's been no notice of right

4573
02:14:11,818 --> 02:14:13,818
to appeal.

4574
02:14:14,821 --> 02:14:15,522
We had no public input.

4575
02:14:15,522 --> 02:14:16,356
All of this is ministerial

4576
02:14:16,356 --> 02:14:18,724
approved as if it's just a

4577
02:14:18,724 --> 02:14:21,724
backyard cottage and it's not.

4578
02:14:23,329 --> 02:14:25,329
>> Next slide please.

4579
02:14:28,767 --> 02:14:29,502
>> >> I started going around to

4580
02:14:29,502 --> 02:14:30,169
different neighborhoods after I

4581
02:14:30,169 --> 02:14:33,169
learned about this because I

4582
02:14:34,140 --> 02:14:34,707
was like this This has to be in

4583
02:14:34,707 --> 02:14:35,407
this has to be unique.

4584
02:14:35,407 --> 02:14:36,760
There's no way that this could

4585
02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:38,476
be happening in other

4586
02:14:39,440 --> 02:14:39,645
neighborhoods Like it's you

4587
02:14:39,645 --> 02:14:42,645
know, this is an issue.

4588
02:14:44,490 --> 02:14:44,984
>> This isn't Shoshoni That was

4589
02:14:44,984 --> 02:14:45,651
that was just like on a cul de

4590
02:14:45,651 --> 02:14:47,720
sac And this is an all male

4591
02:14:47,720 --> 02:14:48,321
that was on a cul de sac and

4592
02:14:48,321 --> 02:14:48,887
those were just one.

4593
02:14:48,887 --> 02:14:50,887
>> This is two.

4594
02:14:52,658 --> 02:14:53,460
And then I was fortunate to be

4595
02:14:53,460 --> 02:14:54,326
invited to Linda Vista by our

4596
02:14:54,326 --> 02:14:57,263
friends here now and I learned

4597
02:14:57,263 --> 02:14:58,131
what's going on.

4598
02:14:58,131 --> 02:14:58,564
So this is systemic and this is

4599
02:14:58,564 --> 02:15:00,564
not isolated.

4600
02:15:02,768 --> 02:15:03,470
So let me just take you on a

4601
02:15:03,470 --> 02:15:04,700
quick tour of what's going on

4602
02:15:04,700 --> 02:15:07,600
and show you how these

4603
02:15:07,600 --> 02:15:07,707
cumulative impacts are

4604
02:15:07,707 --> 02:15:10,760
compounding day by day As long

4605
02:15:10,760 --> 02:15:10,643
as this program stays active.

4606
02:15:10,643 --> 02:15:12,643
Next slide, please.

4607
02:15:15,715 --> 02:15:18,115
Firestone Street, which some

4608
02:15:19,518 --> 02:15:20,219
have touched on there's 11

4609
02:15:20,219 --> 02:15:20,886
units and I kept driving by

4610
02:15:20,886 --> 02:15:23,356
there just to check it out

4611
02:15:23,356 --> 02:15:24,570
because it's fully built out

4612
02:15:24,570 --> 02:15:24,758
And that's one of the few ones

4613
02:15:24,758 --> 02:15:25,425
that's actually been built And

4614
02:15:25,425 --> 02:15:25,724
you can go see what it looks

4615
02:15:25,724 --> 02:15:27,724
like.

4616
02:15:28,795 --> 02:15:29,162
I was curious what's the street

4617
02:15:29,162 --> 02:15:29,629
look like?

4618
02:15:29,629 --> 02:15:30,263
How is parking?

4619
02:15:30,263 --> 02:15:30,563
How are they dealing with

4620
02:15:30,563 --> 02:15:32,563
trash?

4621
02:15:32,799 --> 02:15:33,633
And then I go on the permit

4622
02:15:33,633 --> 02:15:36,937
finder website and I find out

4623
02:15:36,937 --> 02:15:37,303
next door 11 more units are are

4624
02:15:37,303 --> 02:15:39,303
going up.

4625
02:15:41,675 --> 02:15:42,476
>> And I had been watching this

4626
02:15:42,476 --> 02:15:45,476
other property on Rennick place

4627
02:15:45,679 --> 02:15:46,346
to the right there and seven

4628
02:15:46,346 --> 02:15:49,346
units were proposed and this

4629
02:15:49,683 --> 02:15:50,550
was a couple of months ago And

4630
02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:50,850
then I said let me check it

4631
02:15:50,850 --> 02:15:51,651
again.

4632
02:15:51,651 --> 02:15:54,651
Now there's eight next door

4633
02:15:54,954 --> 02:15:55,455
adjacent.

4634
02:15:55,455 --> 02:15:57,455
Next slide please.

4635
02:16:00,227 --> 02:16:00,861
And then I in North Claremont I

4636
02:16:00,861 --> 02:16:01,595
look at this one Appleton

4637
02:16:01,595 --> 02:16:04,595
Aberdeen Diane I call it

4638
02:16:05,980 --> 02:16:05,865
the doom triangle.

4639
02:16:05,865 --> 02:16:06,500
You you've got four, four and

4640
02:16:06,500 --> 02:16:08,900
three creating a triangle.

4641
02:16:10,337 --> 02:16:10,904
What's going to happen to those

4642
02:16:10,904 --> 02:16:11,370
people in the middle?

4643
02:16:11,370 --> 02:16:13,370
>> I don't know.

4644
02:16:15,275 --> 02:16:16,430
And then Linda Vista is the one

4645
02:16:16,430 --> 02:16:19,346
that really hit home for me.

4646
02:16:19,346 --> 02:16:20,460
18 units currently under

4647
02:16:20,460 --> 02:16:20,580
construction, seven currently

4648
02:16:20,580 --> 02:16:22,580
under construction.

4649
02:16:23,450 --> 02:16:23,983
And then our friend said well

4650
02:16:23,983 --> 02:16:24,450
there's another one.

4651
02:16:24,450 --> 02:16:25,319
It's nine units.

4652
02:16:25,319 --> 02:16:28,622
And then I went home and then I

4653
02:16:28,622 --> 02:16:32,325
looked at the map and I'm like

4654
02:16:32,325 --> 02:16:33,193
Hey, there's another 438 units

4655
02:16:33,193 --> 02:16:34,940
on a 30 foot wide street just

4656
02:16:34,940 --> 02:16:36,630
like Piute zero access on a

4657
02:16:36,630 --> 02:16:37,231
canyon.

4658
02:16:37,231 --> 02:16:39,231
>> This is systemic.

4659
02:16:41,635 --> 02:16:42,302
The outliers from a few months

4660
02:16:42,302 --> 02:16:43,300
ago have now become the new

4661
02:16:43,300 --> 02:16:43,336
norm and it's compounding day

4662
02:16:43,336 --> 02:16:43,870
by day.

4663
02:16:43,870 --> 02:16:45,870
Next slide, please.

4664
02:16:49,420 --> 02:16:49,643
>> This slide kind of shows

4665
02:16:49,643 --> 02:16:50,430
shows it all from our

4666
02:16:50,430 --> 02:16:52,430
perspective.

4667
02:16:54,214 --> 02:16:57,814
>> The state allowed up to four

4668
02:16:57,984 --> 02:16:58,418
units per lot under this four

4669
02:16:58,418 --> 02:16:59,850
unit umbrella.

4670
02:16:59,850 --> 02:17:02,850
The state said no parking

4671
02:17:03,323 --> 02:17:03,957
requirements areas are

4672
02:17:03,957 --> 02:17:05,957
categorically exempt from

4673
02:17:07,994 --> 02:17:08,762
secure ministerial reviews.

4674
02:17:08,762 --> 02:17:09,529
This is for four units.

4675
02:17:09,529 --> 02:17:12,990
I don't know if the state had

4676
02:17:12,990 --> 02:17:12,532
unlimited in mind when they

4677
02:17:12,532 --> 02:17:13,166
created this.

4678
02:17:13,166 --> 02:17:15,566
San Diego allows unlimited

4679
02:17:17,438 --> 02:17:18,105
units and they thought they

4680
02:17:18,105 --> 02:17:18,805
could piggyback on the state

4681
02:17:18,805 --> 02:17:21,805
say oh well unlimited parking,

4682
02:17:22,376 --> 02:17:22,976
no parking, no secure.

4683
02:17:22,976 --> 02:17:23,744
No ministerial reviews.

4684
02:17:23,744 --> 02:17:27,514
But I'm sorry the state did not

4685
02:17:27,514 --> 02:17:28,148
say unlimited unlimited equals

4686
02:17:28,148 --> 02:17:28,682
unusual circumstances and

4687
02:17:28,682 --> 02:17:29,749
cumulative impacts.

4688
02:17:29,749 --> 02:17:31,749
Next slide please.

4689
02:17:35,489 --> 02:17:36,156
To start to wrap it up for

4690
02:17:36,156 --> 02:17:39,756
the four the hdd letter that

4691
02:17:40,393 --> 02:17:40,927
was dated JUNE 13th the hdd is

4692
02:17:40,927 --> 02:17:42,927
already questioning

4693
02:17:43,831 --> 02:17:44,431
the legality of the bonus edu

4694
02:17:44,431 --> 02:17:45,132
program amendments while

4695
02:17:45,132 --> 02:17:48,732
the City of San Diego edu

4696
02:17:49,303 --> 02:17:49,969
program MAY have appeared alike

4697
02:17:49,969 --> 02:17:53,569
to be aligned with state law

4698
02:17:53,841 --> 02:17:54,141
and mandates upon its inception

4699
02:17:54,141 --> 02:17:54,807
.

4700
02:17:54,807 --> 02:17:55,408
It scale and all these

4701
02:17:55,408 --> 02:17:57,408
compounding impacts are

4702
02:17:59,112 --> 02:17:59,779
creating unusual circumstance

4703
02:17:59,779 --> 02:18:00,414
and cumulative impacts that

4704
02:18:00,414 --> 02:18:02,814
should disqualify it from

4705
02:18:04,151 --> 02:18:04,651
ministerial approvals and

4706
02:18:04,651 --> 02:18:06,651
secure exemptions.

4707
02:18:08,255 --> 02:18:08,956
Upon further review by the city

4708
02:18:08,956 --> 02:18:09,556
it's clear that putting forth

4709
02:18:09,556 --> 02:18:11,556
amendments that satisfy

4710
02:18:13,693 --> 02:18:14,561
the Council the public and

4711
02:18:14,561 --> 02:18:14,995
the hdd is going to be a very

4712
02:18:14,995 --> 02:18:16,995
long process.

4713
02:18:18,899 --> 02:18:19,632
So we're recommending in

4714
02:18:19,632 --> 02:18:19,966
the meantime our our message is

4715
02:18:19,966 --> 02:18:21,966
simple.

4716
02:18:23,103 --> 02:18:23,704
Place a moratorium on bonus edu

4717
02:18:23,704 --> 02:18:26,104
program for any project

4718
02:18:27,775 --> 02:18:28,442
submitted over four units.

4719
02:18:28,442 --> 02:18:29,143
>> Pause reviews on projects

4720
02:18:29,143 --> 02:18:31,543
that have already been

4721
02:18:33,213 --> 02:18:33,814
submitted until we get clarity

4722
02:18:33,814 --> 02:18:34,415
from the state for legal

4723
02:18:34,415 --> 02:18:36,815
compliance with ceqa and

4724
02:18:37,117 --> 02:18:37,485
ministerial reviews related to

4725
02:18:37,485 --> 02:18:39,485
unlimited.

4726
02:18:42,256 --> 02:18:43,230
>> Anything over four requires

4727
02:18:43,230 --> 02:18:46,230
secure review when harm is

4728
02:18:46,527 --> 02:18:47,270
compounded because four means

4729
02:18:47,270 --> 02:18:49,270
for not unlimited.

4730
02:18:53,801 --> 02:18:54,701
Next slide This.

4731
02:18:54,701 --> 02:18:54,968
We do not need to cancel to

4732
02:18:54,968 --> 02:18:55,703
use.

4733
02:18:55,703 --> 02:18:58,639
We need to build them

4734
02:18:58,639 --> 02:18:59,306
responsibility responsibly not

4735
02:18:59,306 --> 02:18:59,673
hide apartment buildings and

4736
02:18:59,673 --> 02:19:00,307
backyards.

4737
02:19:00,307 --> 02:19:03,307
We need to respect zoning

4738
02:19:04,100 --> 02:19:04,611
followed fire code, obey secure

4739
02:19:04,611 --> 02:19:07,110
and include the public.

4740
02:19:07,881 --> 02:19:08,848
And no more unlimited.

4741
02:19:08,848 --> 02:19:10,751
>> Thank you for your time and

4742
02:19:10,751 --> 02:19:14,351
please help us to pay you

4743
02:19:15,923 --> 02:19:17,923
serious?

4744
02:19:20,161 --> 02:19:20,694
>> Doris Doris Cintron if you

4745
02:19:20,694 --> 02:19:23,940
can please come up.

4746
02:19:25,266 --> 02:19:25,666
>> Doris.

4747
02:19:25,666 --> 02:19:26,333
>> Doris.

4748
02:19:26,333 --> 02:19:29,270
Coming up from the back

4749
02:19:29,270 --> 02:19:29,870
committee room.

4750
02:19:29,870 --> 02:19:31,870
>> No, Doris.

4751
02:19:44,418 --> 02:19:45,252
Oh, hold me.

4752
02:19:45,252 --> 02:19:48,852
>> You know, just you can just

4753
02:19:48,856 --> 02:19:49,323
speak your comments into

4754
02:19:49,323 --> 02:19:49,889
the microphone.

4755
02:19:49,889 --> 02:19:50,324
Are you Doris Cintron?

4756
02:19:50,324 --> 02:19:50,591
Yes, I am.

4757
02:19:50,591 --> 02:19:51,258
Yes.

4758
02:19:51,258 --> 02:19:53,160
Proceed with your comments.

4759
02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:54,280
Thank you.

4760
02:19:54,280 --> 02:19:54,595
Um, I'm not related to any of

4761
02:19:54,595 --> 02:19:56,595
the issues concerning

4762
02:19:57,931 --> 02:19:58,899
the public here.

4763
02:19:58,899 --> 02:19:59,467
I would like to be able to

4764
02:19:59,467 --> 02:20:01,867
speak to someone about

4765
02:20:03,571 --> 02:20:04,238
the problems I am having on a 1

4766
02:20:04,238 --> 02:20:05,140
to 1 with someone if it's

4767
02:20:05,140 --> 02:20:08,442
possible If it's not related to

4768
02:20:08,442 --> 02:20:09,310
the aids.

4769
02:20:09,310 --> 02:20:09,944
If you can wait in the back

4770
02:20:09,944 --> 02:20:12,944
then I'll send somebody to

4771
02:20:13,180 --> 02:20:13,681
speak to you to try to provide

4772
02:20:13,681 --> 02:20:14,470
further guidance.

4773
02:20:14,470 --> 02:20:14,548
Thank you.

4774
02:20:14,548 --> 02:20:16,548
Thank you, Daniel.

4775
02:20:18,953 --> 02:20:19,553
Daniel, you'll have time ceded

4776
02:20:19,553 --> 02:20:22,553
to you by James Lawson.

4777
02:20:24,158 --> 02:20:24,825
Please raise your hand.

4778
02:20:24,825 --> 02:20:25,125
And Stephanie, thank you so

4779
02:20:25,125 --> 02:20:25,759
much.

4780
02:20:25,759 --> 02:20:26,227
You'll have three minutes.

4781
02:20:26,227 --> 02:20:28,227
Please proceed.

4782
02:20:28,996 --> 02:20:29,697
Good afternoon.

4783
02:20:29,697 --> 02:20:30,297
Council PRESIDENT LaCava, City

4784
02:20:30,297 --> 02:20:30,631
Attorney ipa and Council

4785
02:20:30,631 --> 02:20:32,631
members.

4786
02:20:33,467 --> 02:20:34,167
My name is Daniel Skolnik and

4787
02:20:34,167 --> 02:20:37,767
I'm ceo of Atlas Waste Group.

4788
02:20:38,171 --> 02:20:38,839
We are San Diego based

4789
02:20:38,839 --> 02:20:41,239
development company that has

4790
02:20:42,900 --> 02:20:42,710
successfully used the city's 82

4791
02:20:42,710 --> 02:20:43,344
density bonus program to bring

4792
02:20:43,344 --> 02:20:45,744
online hundreds of homes.

4793
02:20:47,615 --> 02:20:48,215
You are in receipt of our

4794
02:20:48,215 --> 02:20:48,950
letter submitted to your

4795
02:20:48,950 --> 02:20:51,350
offices this morning containing

4796
02:20:52,186 --> 02:20:52,820
our suggested amendments to

4797
02:20:52,820 --> 02:20:53,487
the staff recommendations.

4798
02:20:53,487 --> 02:20:56,323
My comments today though are

4799
02:20:56,323 --> 02:20:57,191
focused on a broader picture.

4800
02:20:57,191 --> 02:20:57,925
This program was put in place

4801
02:20:57,925 --> 02:21:01,462
during a time when the city was

4802
02:21:01,462 --> 02:21:01,963
focused what we all deemed as a

4803
02:21:01,963 --> 02:21:02,663
housing emergency.

4804
02:21:02,663 --> 02:21:06,263
It feels like we're now losing

4805
02:21:06,501 --> 02:21:07,234
that urgency.

4806
02:21:07,234 --> 02:21:10,234
Reforms to this program started

4807
02:21:10,504 --> 02:21:11,239
as a way to deal with outliers

4808
02:21:11,239 --> 02:21:11,973
who are proposing projects that

4809
02:21:11,973 --> 02:21:14,973
were significantly out of scale

4810
02:21:15,843 --> 02:21:16,610
with surrounding communities.

4811
02:21:16,610 --> 02:21:19,380
I agree with these goals but

4812
02:21:19,380 --> 02:21:20,247
now we're talking today about

4813
02:21:20,247 --> 02:21:23,247
the evisceration of an award

4814
02:21:25,850 --> 02:21:25,753
winning program.

4815
02:21:25,753 --> 02:21:26,621
To be to be clear.

4816
02:21:26,621 --> 02:21:30,221
My company has never built a

4817
02:21:30,324 --> 02:21:32,724
project larger than 12 units.

4818
02:21:33,962 --> 02:21:34,562
Our projects range in size from

4819
02:21:34,562 --> 02:21:35,329
6 to 12 units.

4820
02:21:35,329 --> 02:21:36,970
And that's because we found a

4821
02:21:36,970 --> 02:21:39,697
niche that serves a dire need

4822
02:21:39,800 --> 02:21:40,501
for workforce housing.

4823
02:21:40,501 --> 02:21:43,501
Your dealership a unit without

4824
02:21:43,604 --> 02:21:44,339
any public subsidy.

4825
02:21:44,339 --> 02:21:45,600
I've heard it several times in

4826
02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:48,600
other hearings and I'm sure

4827
02:21:48,643 --> 02:21:49,770
we'll hear it today that these

4828
02:21:49,770 --> 02:21:49,643
aren't homes.

4829
02:21:49,643 --> 02:21:50,110
I take issue with that

4830
02:21:50,110 --> 02:21:52,110
statement.

4831
02:21:53,460 --> 02:21:53,414
I think it's ridiculous and

4832
02:21:53,414 --> 02:21:54,148
demeaning.

4833
02:21:54,148 --> 02:21:57,148
This program has provided homes

4834
02:21:58,860 --> 02:21:58,753
for military families, for

4835
02:21:58,753 --> 02:21:59,487
teachers, for single parents

4836
02:21:59,487 --> 02:21:59,886
and homes for hundreds of other

4837
02:21:59,886 --> 02:22:01,886
San Diegans.

4838
02:22:03,524 --> 02:22:04,224
This is an amazing partnership

4839
02:22:04,224 --> 02:22:04,659
that we've had and I hope it

4840
02:22:04,659 --> 02:22:06,659
can continue.

4841
02:22:08,596 --> 02:22:09,297
Please make sure you focus on

4842
02:22:09,297 --> 02:22:12,600
creating homes for all of us

4843
02:22:12,600 --> 02:22:13,134
and so people can afford to

4844
02:22:13,134 --> 02:22:13,567
stay in San Diego.

4845
02:22:13,567 --> 02:22:15,567
>> Thank you.

4846
02:22:17,605 --> 02:22:18,473
Joy Sonata.

4847
02:22:18,473 --> 02:22:18,840
After that it will be Dave

4848
02:22:18,840 --> 02:22:19,273
Nicholai.

4849
02:22:19,273 --> 02:22:21,273
Dana Give it.

4850
02:22:22,777 --> 02:22:23,478
Colin Parent and Sean Duffy

4851
02:22:23,478 --> 02:22:24,212
Polanco If you can all please

4852
02:22:24,212 --> 02:22:27,182
make your way up to the yellow

4853
02:22:27,182 --> 02:22:27,515
reserved seats and you MAY

4854
02:22:27,515 --> 02:22:28,248
proceed.

4855
02:22:28,248 --> 02:22:31,248
City Clerk Fuentes before you

4856
02:22:32,120 --> 02:22:32,821
start my time this is very

4857
02:22:32,821 --> 02:22:35,821
important and it's a technical

4858
02:22:37,325 --> 02:22:37,958
protocol problem or question in

4859
02:22:37,958 --> 02:22:40,358
the late arrivals notebook

4860
02:22:41,262 --> 02:22:42,300
wouldn't I normally find

4861
02:22:42,300 --> 02:22:45,300
Heidi's memo from late last

4862
02:22:46,467 --> 02:22:47,234
Friday afternoon?

4863
02:22:47,234 --> 02:22:47,936
So I'm just I'm just putting

4864
02:22:47,936 --> 02:22:51,873
that out there for you If you

4865
02:22:51,873 --> 02:22:52,707
want to answer it, fine.

4866
02:22:52,707 --> 02:22:53,407
But I really wanted to find out

4867
02:22:53,407 --> 02:22:56,407
if it was legally appropriate

4868
02:22:56,911 --> 02:22:57,679
for it to be that Well make

4869
02:22:57,679 --> 02:22:58,279
sure to make an extra copy but

4870
02:22:58,279 --> 02:23:01,217
we do have it posted.

4871
02:23:01,217 --> 02:23:01,583
Please proceed.

4872
02:23:01,583 --> 02:23:03,583
Thank you.

4873
02:23:04,719 --> 02:23:05,353
City Clerk Fuentes Joyce

4874
02:23:05,353 --> 02:23:05,953
Initiative District three.

4875
02:23:05,953 --> 02:23:08,353
Hey everybody listen up.

4876
02:23:10,290 --> 02:23:15,900
I and I know you are but maybe

4877
02:23:15,960 --> 02:23:15,697
you know I mean I am between a

4878
02:23:15,697 --> 02:23:16,197
rock and a hard place.

4879
02:23:16,197 --> 02:23:18,197
I live downtown.

4880
02:23:20,502 --> 02:23:22,902
We accept housing density.

4881
02:23:25,205 --> 02:23:25,873
I want other neighborhoods to

4882
02:23:25,873 --> 02:23:28,273
accept more housing density.

4883
02:23:30,511 --> 02:23:31,211
Yet something seems very odd a

4884
02:23:31,211 --> 02:23:34,211
balance about the adu program.

4885
02:23:35,160 --> 02:23:38,160
Please listen to the voices

4886
02:23:39,788 --> 02:23:40,388
today Do city council They have

4887
02:23:40,388 --> 02:23:42,788
heartfelt things to say.

4888
02:23:44,993 --> 02:23:45,660
There is a balance.

4889
02:23:45,660 --> 02:23:48,600
There is an answer.

4890
02:23:50,264 --> 02:23:51,320
Let's find it together.

4891
02:23:51,320 --> 02:23:51,800
>> Thank you everybody for

4892
02:23:51,800 --> 02:23:55,400
listening up to All Thank you

4893
02:23:55,569 --> 02:23:56,271
Dave Nicola you have time

4894
02:23:56,271 --> 02:23:56,738
seated by Leslie Bruce please

4895
02:23:56,738 --> 02:23:58,738
raise your hand.

4896
02:24:00,542 --> 02:24:01,208
Leslie Thank you Clint.

4897
02:24:01,208 --> 02:24:02,443
>> Bruce Thank you.

4898
02:24:02,443 --> 02:24:04,443
Barbara Burdette Barbara

4899
02:24:08,383 --> 02:24:11,787
Burdette I do not see a Barbara

4900
02:24:11,787 --> 02:24:14,187
Burdette raising her hand.

4901
02:24:16,658 --> 02:24:17,910
Okay, Thank you Mel Meckler

4902
02:24:17,910 --> 02:24:17,826
Thank you.

4903
02:24:17,826 --> 02:24:20,826
That gives you four minutes

4904
02:24:22,564 --> 02:24:23,298
just making sure Barbara Ward

4905
02:24:23,298 --> 02:24:23,565
isn't one of the people walking

4906
02:24:23,565 --> 02:24:25,565
in.

4907
02:24:26,468 --> 02:24:26,935
No, Barbara, four minutes.

4908
02:24:26,935 --> 02:24:27,536
Please proceed.

4909
02:24:27,536 --> 02:24:29,536
Hello, council members.

4910
02:24:31,506 --> 02:24:32,541
Here we go again.

4911
02:24:32,541 --> 02:24:36,141
We have Oh, please put up

4912
02:24:36,610 --> 02:24:37,278
the slides.

4913
02:24:37,278 --> 02:24:38,146
>> Here we go again.

4914
02:24:38,146 --> 02:24:41,616
Another victim of the bonus You

4915
02:24:41,616 --> 02:24:42,317
program.

4916
02:24:42,317 --> 02:24:43,180
First they found out a

4917
02:24:43,180 --> 02:24:44,619
developer bought to the north

4918
02:24:44,619 --> 02:24:44,919
of them stuck three units

4919
02:24:44,919 --> 02:24:46,919
there.

4920
02:24:50,240 --> 02:24:50,725
>> Daniel Skolnick They get all

4921
02:24:50,725 --> 02:24:52,994
the construction noise and

4922
02:24:52,994 --> 02:24:53,494
disrespect and then two years

4923
02:24:53,494 --> 02:24:54,960
later guess what?

4924
02:24:54,960 --> 02:24:56,496
The same developer buys

4925
02:24:58,330 --> 02:24:58,300
the property to the south of

4926
02:24:58,300 --> 02:24:58,766
him.

4927
02:24:58,766 --> 02:25:00,766
Isn't that nice?

4928
02:25:02,237 --> 02:25:02,938
This one owner now does that

4929
02:25:02,938 --> 02:25:06,538
person who's on that house for

4930
02:25:07,276 --> 02:25:07,642
20 years deserve deserve it?

4931
02:25:07,642 --> 02:25:08,409
No.

4932
02:25:08,409 --> 02:25:12,900
He bought a house in a

4933
02:25:12,381 --> 02:25:13,810
residential neighborhood as in

4934
02:25:13,810 --> 02:25:13,749
are seven the bonus 80 you

4935
02:25:13,749 --> 02:25:14,449
projects are destroying this

4936
02:25:14,449 --> 02:25:16,849
neighborhood like an invasive

4937
02:25:17,586 --> 02:25:18,252
disease.

4938
02:25:18,252 --> 02:25:18,553
>> Next slide please.

4939
02:25:18,553 --> 02:25:19,254
Sorry.

4940
02:25:19,254 --> 02:25:22,290
I'm going to pause your time.

4941
02:25:22,290 --> 02:25:22,591
I don't have a PowerPoint from

4942
02:25:22,591 --> 02:25:23,358
you.

4943
02:25:23,358 --> 02:25:24,259
>> I'm not sure When you

4944
02:25:24,259 --> 02:25:27,859
submitted it I submitted it a

4945
02:25:30,832 --> 02:25:31,500
while ago and I sent it to Jen

4946
02:25:31,500 --> 02:25:32,134
Barry probably She just went

4947
02:25:32,134 --> 02:25:32,567
out to the back to assist

4948
02:25:32,567 --> 02:25:34,567
the customer.

4949
02:25:36,304 --> 02:25:37,390
What I can do is I'll save your

4950
02:25:37,390 --> 02:25:40,909
time and call you back as soon

4951
02:25:40,909 --> 02:25:41,677
as she's back in the building.

4952
02:25:41,677 --> 02:25:42,377
My apologies are back in from

4953
02:25:42,377 --> 02:25:42,711
the room because she had to go

4954
02:25:42,711 --> 02:25:43,780
assist.

4955
02:25:43,780 --> 02:25:45,780
It's okay.

4956
02:25:45,481 --> 02:25:46,214
I'll just I'll just I'll just

4957
02:25:46,214 --> 02:25:46,748
It was distributed to everybody

4958
02:25:46,748 --> 02:25:47,115
if it was submitted.

4959
02:25:47,115 --> 02:25:49,115
All right.

4960
02:25:50,285 --> 02:25:50,919
Meanwhile we have another

4961
02:25:50,919 --> 02:25:51,620
instance where a developer

4962
02:25:51,620 --> 02:25:52,221
bought two parcels right next

4963
02:25:52,221 --> 02:25:55,221
to each other in Redwood

4964
02:25:55,590 --> 02:25:56,290
Village on Bourn Street, a one

4965
02:25:56,290 --> 02:25:59,528
quarter acre and a one third

4966
02:25:59,528 --> 02:26:03,128
acre plot with a slight drop

4967
02:26:04,332 --> 02:26:05,000
of 6% a total of 28 units and a

4968
02:26:05,000 --> 02:26:05,634
approved by the dsd getting

4969
02:26:05,634 --> 02:26:06,468
plopped at the end of yet

4970
02:26:06,468 --> 02:26:10,238
another cul de sac in a very

4971
02:26:10,238 --> 02:26:11,390
high severity zone It's down to

4972
02:26:11,390 --> 02:26:14,639
6% empty yes to a bus stop.

4973
02:26:14,977 --> 02:26:15,410
You think people are going to

4974
02:26:15,410 --> 02:26:16,144
right transit?

4975
02:26:16,144 --> 02:26:19,144
Really through my experience in

4976
02:26:19,915 --> 02:26:20,582
dealing with such a project

4977
02:26:20,582 --> 02:26:21,249
directly behind my house and

4978
02:26:21,249 --> 02:26:23,649
affecting my neighborhood, I

4979
02:26:25,287 --> 02:26:26,880
have determined the following

4980
02:26:26,880 --> 02:26:26,821
My council rep in District nine

4981
02:26:26,821 --> 02:26:27,156
Seanie Lou Rivera does not have

4982
02:26:27,156 --> 02:26:29,240
my back.

4983
02:26:29,240 --> 02:26:32,240
Raul would you dsd protects

4984
02:26:33,829 --> 02:26:34,629
the developer by not allowing

4985
02:26:34,629 --> 02:26:35,330
us to take notes and pictures

4986
02:26:35,330 --> 02:26:38,930
of the plans that we directly

4987
02:26:39,268 --> 02:26:39,968
cannot safely mitigate privacy

4988
02:26:39,968 --> 02:26:40,235
issues that are going to come

4989
02:26:40,235 --> 02:26:40,935
up?

4990
02:26:40,935 --> 02:26:43,335
These projects are all

4991
02:26:44,640 --> 02:26:45,406
ministerial.

4992
02:26:45,406 --> 02:26:46,740
That means unless you have nosy

4993
02:26:46,740 --> 02:26:46,709
neighbors or renters getting

4994
02:26:46,709 --> 02:26:47,276
evicted you only find out

4995
02:26:47,276 --> 02:26:48,810
what's happening when

4996
02:26:48,810 --> 02:26:49,344
the property is surrounded by a

4997
02:26:49,344 --> 02:26:50,450
construction fence.

4998
02:26:50,450 --> 02:26:53,415
Lucky me I dug and I found out

4999
02:26:53,415 --> 02:26:53,949
early and told everybody to get

5000
02:26:53,949 --> 02:26:54,616
ready for disaster.

5001
02:26:54,616 --> 02:26:55,249
Daniel That's coming to our

5002
02:26:55,249 --> 02:26:57,249
quiet little neighborhood.

5003
02:26:58,854 --> 02:26:59,621
The developer?

5004
02:26:59,621 --> 02:27:00,422
Yeah, I did meet him once.

5005
02:27:00,422 --> 02:27:01,190
I asked him to please bring

5006
02:27:01,190 --> 02:27:03,726
the plants in share with me but

5007
02:27:03,726 --> 02:27:04,593
he didn't.

5008
02:27:04,593 --> 02:27:05,261
It was a waste of my time.

5009
02:27:05,261 --> 02:27:05,961
The construction company I'm

5010
02:27:05,961 --> 02:27:09,980
dealing with is a no name

5011
02:27:09,980 --> 02:27:09,665
building company who doesn't

5012
02:27:09,665 --> 02:27:10,366
display their contact

5013
02:27:10,366 --> 02:27:13,202
information at their job site.

5014
02:27:13,202 --> 02:27:13,902
The way I found out it was on

5015
02:27:13,902 --> 02:27:14,269
one of their shirts I googled

5016
02:27:14,269 --> 02:27:15,300
the rest.

5017
02:27:15,300 --> 02:27:17,403
>> Then the construction begins

5018
02:27:18,606 --> 02:27:19,308
Hammers, saws, loud music, loud

5019
02:27:19,308 --> 02:27:22,308
talking double parking, use a

5020
02:27:23,546 --> 02:27:24,246
forklift to move your materials

5021
02:27:24,246 --> 02:27:27,246
working on Sundays and outside

5022
02:27:28,383 --> 02:27:29,500
hours leaving the site a pigsty

5023
02:27:29,500 --> 02:27:29,752
creating hazards for our car

5024
02:27:29,752 --> 02:27:30,152
tires using our trash cans for

5025
02:27:30,152 --> 02:27:32,152
our garbage.

5026
02:27:33,688 --> 02:27:34,223
You think they were on a

5027
02:27:34,223 --> 02:27:34,923
commercial job site?

5028
02:27:34,923 --> 02:27:35,558
Since the city doesn't have my

5029
02:27:35,558 --> 02:27:38,594
back I end up talking to

5030
02:27:38,594 --> 02:27:38,927
the construction company owner

5031
02:27:38,927 --> 02:27:39,628
.

5032
02:27:39,628 --> 02:27:39,995
It helped nothing whatsoever.

5033
02:27:39,995 --> 02:27:41,995
I called.

5034
02:27:42,698 --> 02:27:43,398
I got an attitude like I was

5035
02:27:43,398 --> 02:27:43,699
dealing with a nine year old

5036
02:27:43,699 --> 02:27:44,433
child.

5037
02:27:44,433 --> 02:27:47,202
That's what everyone's going to

5038
02:27:47,202 --> 02:27:47,903
be dealing with if more these

5039
02:27:47,903 --> 02:27:51,503
projects go up these no name

5040
02:27:52,410 --> 02:27:52,641
companies I had talks with

5041
02:27:52,641 --> 02:27:53,309
the lead inspector, his

5042
02:27:53,309 --> 02:27:53,976
supervisor and Gary Geiger.

5043
02:27:53,976 --> 02:27:56,479
I was very clear on what to

5044
02:27:56,479 --> 02:27:57,146
report to them if there was an

5045
02:27:57,146 --> 02:27:57,847
issue And by golly if you're

5046
02:27:57,847 --> 02:27:58,446
going to add more density then

5047
02:27:58,446 --> 02:28:00,846
they're going to follow

5048
02:28:01,751 --> 02:28:02,500
the rules just like anyone

5049
02:28:02,500 --> 02:28:02,784
else.

5050
02:28:02,784 --> 02:28:03,486
That leaves the city's citizens

5051
02:28:03,486 --> 02:28:06,355
free to police the builders on

5052
02:28:06,355 --> 02:28:07,220
the job site.

5053
02:28:07,220 --> 02:28:07,723
It's really not our job

5054
02:28:07,723 --> 02:28:10,723
Reporting it to such employees

5055
02:28:11,593 --> 02:28:12,294
resulted in either little slow

5056
02:28:12,294 --> 02:28:12,995
or no enforcement nor is there

5057
02:28:12,995 --> 02:28:16,298
much they can do other than a

5058
02:28:16,298 --> 02:28:17,166
slap on the wrist.

5059
02:28:17,166 --> 02:28:17,900
After a while I got two

5060
02:28:17,900 --> 02:28:18,467
superiors to get a response for

5061
02:28:18,467 --> 02:28:21,467
them to do their job.

5062
02:28:21,804 --> 02:28:22,537
The city brought this extra

5063
02:28:22,537 --> 02:28:23,272
work on themselves by coming up

5064
02:28:23,272 --> 02:28:26,272
with this flawed bonus radio

5065
02:28:30,513 --> 02:28:31,280
program for is fair everywhere

5066
02:28:31,280 --> 02:28:31,981
These guardrails do not go far

5067
02:28:31,981 --> 02:28:34,981
enough to create the spacious

5068
02:28:35,885 --> 02:28:36,619
appetites of greedy developers

5069
02:28:36,619 --> 02:28:40,219
who want to densify bomb single

5070
02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:41,557
family neighborhoods over and

5071
02:28:41,557 --> 02:28:42,324
over and over and over again.

5072
02:28:42,324 --> 02:28:45,828
It needs to go to state

5073
02:28:45,828 --> 02:28:46,295
mandated levels protecting

5074
02:28:46,295 --> 02:28:46,962
the character of

5075
02:28:46,962 --> 02:28:47,663
the neighborhood as a mayor

5076
02:28:47,663 --> 02:28:51,400
says he wants to this would be

5077
02:28:51,400 --> 02:28:52,101
state high limit state high

5078
02:28:52,101 --> 02:28:52,802
limit setbacks limited to one

5079
02:28:52,802 --> 02:28:55,271
detached edu and one converted

5080
02:28:55,271 --> 02:28:55,938
from the existing space.

5081
02:28:55,938 --> 02:28:56,605
What's so hard about that?

5082
02:28:56,605 --> 02:28:59,500
Safe user frustrations don't

5083
02:29:00,676 --> 02:29:01,377
put anybody else to it And

5084
02:29:01,377 --> 02:29:02,440
the bonus 80 program Thank you

5085
02:29:02,440 --> 02:29:04,444
for that concluding comment

5086
02:29:05,381 --> 02:29:08,981
Dana Give it Dana you have

5087
02:29:10,452 --> 02:29:11,153
Rodrigo Gonzalez Thank you

5088
02:29:11,153 --> 02:29:14,153
Terrell and Tanya thank you.

5089
02:29:15,557 --> 02:29:16,259
Yvonne Jones Yvonne Jones if

5090
02:29:16,259 --> 02:29:19,859
you can please raise your hand

5091
02:29:20,897 --> 02:29:21,463
if you're here please come in.

5092
02:29:21,463 --> 02:29:21,764
Oh, there she is.

5093
02:29:21,764 --> 02:29:23,764
Okay.

5094
02:29:26,167 --> 02:29:26,435
Thank you, Claire Mount Thank

5095
02:29:26,435 --> 02:29:26,903
you.

5096
02:29:26,903 --> 02:29:28,903
Manuel Gonzalez.

5097
02:29:30,372 --> 02:29:30,640
Thank you, Alessio Hadad, Thank

5098
02:29:30,640 --> 02:29:32,640
you.

5099
02:29:35,110 --> 02:29:35,444
And Faith Fenton, you'll have

5100
02:29:35,444 --> 02:29:35,912
eight minutes.

5101
02:29:35,912 --> 02:29:37,912
Please proceed.

5102
02:29:38,814 --> 02:29:40,814
Thank you.

5103
02:29:43,720 --> 02:29:44,200
Could I have my slides, please

5104
02:29:44,200 --> 02:29:44,721
?

5105
02:29:44,721 --> 02:29:45,210
I haven't started your time.

5106
02:29:45,210 --> 02:29:47,210
Okay.

5107
02:30:02,338 --> 02:30:03,106
Thanks.

5108
02:30:03,106 --> 02:30:05,106
>> Please proceed already.

5109
02:30:07,809 --> 02:30:08,344
Thank you.

5110
02:30:08,344 --> 02:30:08,711
Next slide, please.

5111
02:30:08,711 --> 02:30:09,445
I'm Dana.

5112
02:30:09,445 --> 02:30:11,845
Give it a representing

5113
02:30:12,815 --> 02:30:13,448
neighbors for better San Diego.

5114
02:30:13,448 --> 02:30:14,490
Thank you to the Planning

5115
02:30:14,490 --> 02:30:16,449
Department for some code

5116
02:30:17,387 --> 02:30:18,154
improvements.

5117
02:30:18,154 --> 02:30:18,855
It remains obvious that public

5118
02:30:18,855 --> 02:30:21,255
workshops would have improved

5119
02:30:22,792 --> 02:30:23,492
this process and the product We

5120
02:30:23,492 --> 02:30:25,892
propose further amendments to

5121
02:30:27,830 --> 02:30:28,431
several items and changes to

5122
02:30:28,431 --> 02:30:29,165
language for clarity and

5123
02:30:29,165 --> 02:30:31,565
consistency with existing code.

5124
02:30:33,690 --> 02:30:33,703
As noted on the list there we

5125
02:30:33,703 --> 02:30:35,703
support remaining proposed

5126
02:30:38,173 --> 02:30:38,975
amendments without comment

5127
02:30:38,975 --> 02:30:42,575
except as Jeff Tudor will note

5128
02:30:43,112 --> 02:30:43,513
after after me when he gets his

5129
02:30:43,513 --> 02:30:44,213
opportunity.

5130
02:30:44,213 --> 02:30:47,213
We also disagree with allowing

5131
02:30:48,284 --> 02:30:49,180
short term rental of jd use

5132
02:30:49,180 --> 02:30:51,253
which the state is proposing to

5133
02:30:51,253 --> 02:30:51,854
eliminate with ab 1154 It's

5134
02:30:51,854 --> 02:30:53,854
under consideration now.

5135
02:30:56,192 --> 02:30:56,926
Next slide please.

5136
02:30:56,926 --> 02:30:57,827
>> We support four foot side

5137
02:30:57,827 --> 02:31:01,330
and rear yard setbacks for all

5138
02:31:01,330 --> 02:31:01,864
ag use regardless of height and

5139
02:31:01,864 --> 02:31:04,264
fire or fire hazard.

5140
02:31:05,435 --> 02:31:07,435
We recommend eliminating

5141
02:31:09,500 --> 02:31:09,772
the zero foot setbacks for one

5142
02:31:09,772 --> 02:31:12,772
story 80 use less than 16ft.

5143
02:31:14,900 --> 02:31:14,744
This would address the planning

5144
02:31:14,744 --> 02:31:15,410
Commission's concerns regarding

5145
02:31:15,410 --> 02:31:18,410
the zero foot setbacks that

5146
02:31:19,549 --> 02:31:20,250
were stated on MAY 1st.

5147
02:31:20,250 --> 02:31:23,250
It simplifies the code and

5148
02:31:24,287 --> 02:31:25,154
removes development uncertainty

5149
02:31:25,154 --> 02:31:25,888
and it creates a single set of

5150
02:31:25,888 --> 02:31:28,888
regulations as the state allows

5151
02:31:29,725 --> 02:31:30,393
property lines abutting non

5152
02:31:30,393 --> 02:31:32,393
residentially zoned parcels

5153
02:31:32,695 --> 02:31:33,128
would still be allowed the zero

5154
02:31:33,128 --> 02:31:33,696
foot setbacks.

5155
02:31:33,696 --> 02:31:35,696
>> Next slide please.

5156
02:31:38,340 --> 02:31:38,734
We recommend making parcels

5157
02:31:38,734 --> 02:31:41,734
ineligible for the bonus they

5158
02:31:42,771 --> 02:31:43,640
do you program if either they

5159
02:31:43,640 --> 02:31:47,777
are in a high or very high fire

5160
02:31:47,777 --> 02:31:48,778
hazard severity zone or they

5161
02:31:48,778 --> 02:31:52,816
are on a cul de sac or a single

5162
02:31:52,816 --> 02:31:53,516
ingress egress road.

5163
02:31:53,516 --> 02:31:54,183
The current proposed amendment

5164
02:31:54,183 --> 02:31:56,583
requires both conditions in

5165
02:31:58,354 --> 02:31:59,220
order for a project to be

5166
02:31:59,220 --> 02:31:59,356
ineligible for the bonus edu

5167
02:31:59,356 --> 02:32:01,356
program.

5168
02:32:02,625 --> 02:32:03,326
Earthquakes create fires

5169
02:32:03,326 --> 02:32:06,326
unrelated to fire zones Single

5170
02:32:08,300 --> 02:32:08,632
exit roads are always

5171
02:32:08,632 --> 02:32:09,366
evacuation choke necks.

5172
02:32:09,366 --> 02:32:12,366
Without the bonus radio program

5173
02:32:13,168 --> 02:32:13,869
and the current state codes

5174
02:32:13,869 --> 02:32:16,869
already allow for units which

5175
02:32:17,273 --> 02:32:18,410
would be an increase of 300%

5176
02:32:18,410 --> 02:32:21,410
and the existing density on

5177
02:32:22,579 --> 02:32:25,579
these roads fire safety and

5178
02:32:27,117 --> 02:32:27,717
evacuation routes We recommend

5179
02:32:27,717 --> 02:32:28,351
enforcing and clarifying

5180
02:32:28,351 --> 02:32:30,751
the fire lane requirements

5181
02:32:31,454 --> 02:32:31,921
which Naveed mentioned just a

5182
02:32:31,921 --> 02:32:32,622
few moments ago.

5183
02:32:32,622 --> 02:32:35,220
They prohibit new development

5184
02:32:36,393 --> 02:32:37,360
on streets that do not have at

5185
02:32:37,360 --> 02:32:41,230
least a 20 foot fire lane and a

5186
02:32:41,230 --> 02:32:42,320
50 foot turning radius as

5187
02:32:42,320 --> 02:32:45,320
required by the California Fire

5188
02:32:45,635 --> 02:32:46,236
Code Section five o 3.2 that

5189
02:32:46,236 --> 02:32:48,636
we've proposed some code

5190
02:32:50,473 --> 02:32:51,107
language below there and that

5191
02:32:51,107 --> 02:32:53,507
means fire officials would

5192
02:32:54,377 --> 02:32:54,911
actually have to look at and

5193
02:32:54,911 --> 02:32:56,911
review the projects.

5194
02:32:59,683 --> 02:33:00,216
Next slide please.

5195
02:33:00,216 --> 02:33:00,850
We support community

5196
02:33:00,850 --> 02:33:03,250
enhancement fees but we

5197
02:33:05,287 --> 02:33:05,922
recommend only waiving them for

5198
02:33:05,922 --> 02:33:09,910
the low and the very low.

5199
02:33:09,910 --> 02:33:09,760
Did restricted ada use in

5200
02:33:09,760 --> 02:33:10,460
the high and highest sea tax

5201
02:33:10,460 --> 02:33:13,460
zones not the moderate zones.

5202
02:33:14,330 --> 02:33:14,664
If you'll vote next slide

5203
02:33:14,664 --> 02:33:16,664
please.

5204
02:33:18,968 --> 02:33:19,703
Sorry my bad.

5205
02:33:19,703 --> 02:33:22,839
>> If you look at the chart

5206
02:33:22,839 --> 02:33:23,539
the moderate opportunity zones

5207
02:33:23,539 --> 02:33:25,939
are already absorbing 260% of

5208
02:33:28,344 --> 02:33:29,112
their fair share of bonus ideas

5209
02:33:29,112 --> 02:33:31,512
while higher opportunity zones

5210
02:33:32,149 --> 02:33:32,816
are only at 49%.

5211
02:33:32,816 --> 02:33:34,816
>> The moderate opportunity

5212
02:33:37,254 --> 02:33:37,721
zones don't need incentives for

5213
02:33:37,721 --> 02:33:39,721
adu development.

5214
02:33:42,192 --> 02:33:42,759
It is happening organically.

5215
02:33:42,759 --> 02:33:44,759
>> Next slide please.

5216
02:33:46,463 --> 02:33:47,970
We support the two story adu

5217
02:33:47,970 --> 02:33:50,970
height limit but code only

5218
02:33:51,835 --> 02:33:52,536
refers to detached studios and

5219
02:33:52,536 --> 02:33:56,136
it risks two storey adus being

5220
02:33:56,973 --> 02:33:57,741
built atop garage office or

5221
02:33:57,741 --> 02:34:00,741
beneath or atop guest houses

5222
02:34:00,777 --> 02:34:01,445
creating three storey buildings

5223
02:34:01,445 --> 02:34:02,112
which is already happening.

5224
02:34:02,112 --> 02:34:05,112
We recommend adding a height

5225
02:34:05,849 --> 02:34:06,617
limit of 25ft as the state

5226
02:34:06,617 --> 02:34:09,617
allows and we reiterate our

5227
02:34:10,954 --> 02:34:11,588
support for detached 80 use

5228
02:34:11,588 --> 02:34:13,988
following state code which

5229
02:34:15,158 --> 02:34:15,525
allows them to only be 16 to

5230
02:34:15,525 --> 02:34:17,525
18ft tall.

5231
02:34:19,996 --> 02:34:20,831
Next slide please.

5232
02:34:20,831 --> 02:34:24,431
We support parking for Adus but

5233
02:34:25,269 --> 02:34:25,968
the state doesn't use the tppa

5234
02:34:25,968 --> 02:34:29,568
in its adu code parking code.

5235
02:34:30,373 --> 02:34:30,707
We shouldn't be using it

5236
02:34:30,707 --> 02:34:32,707
either.

5237
02:34:33,443 --> 02:34:35,843
California adu code 66322 Uses

5238
02:34:37,213 --> 02:34:37,915
one half of one mile walking

5239
02:34:37,915 --> 02:34:40,315
distance from public transit.

5240
02:34:42,419 --> 02:34:45,419
We recommend replacing the tppa

5241
02:34:46,880 --> 02:34:46,590
with language used in

5242
02:34:46,590 --> 02:34:47,357
California 66322.

5243
02:34:47,357 --> 02:34:51,557
And the next slide will make it

5244
02:34:51,628 --> 02:34:52,290
perfectly clear why next.

5245
02:34:52,290 --> 02:34:52,396
Okay.

5246
02:34:52,396 --> 02:34:54,396
Thank you.

5247
02:34:56,433 --> 02:34:57,000
This example is in Del Sierra

5248
02:34:57,000 --> 02:34:59,000
on Linfield Avenue.

5249
02:34:59,769 --> 02:35:03,369
>> It is 816ft as the crow

5250
02:35:04,774 --> 02:35:05,642
flies but people cannot fly as

5251
02:35:05,642 --> 02:35:09,242
crows can And and the walk

5252
02:35:09,913 --> 02:35:12,313
which would be perfectly

5253
02:35:12,648 --> 02:35:13,150
acceptable under the tpa is a

5254
02:35:13,150 --> 02:35:13,984
two mile walk.

5255
02:35:13,984 --> 02:35:16,984
That is not acceptable for

5256
02:35:17,854 --> 02:35:18,722
parking.

5257
02:35:18,722 --> 02:35:20,824
So that is why the tpa does not

5258
02:35:20,824 --> 02:35:21,491
work for parking requirements.

5259
02:35:21,491 --> 02:35:23,491
Next slide please.

5260
02:35:26,196 --> 02:35:26,897
We recommend adding

5261
02:35:26,897 --> 02:35:28,897
the environmentally sensitive

5262
02:35:31,235 --> 02:35:31,835
land code reference to the adu

5263
02:35:31,835 --> 02:35:34,235
floor area ratio code.

5264
02:35:35,706 --> 02:35:39,306
There are 53 pages of esl code.

5265
02:35:39,843 --> 02:35:40,544
For a reason you reference it

5266
02:35:40,544 --> 02:35:43,544
for the adu tree requirements

5267
02:35:44,314 --> 02:35:45,150
but omit it for the very

5268
02:35:45,150 --> 02:35:47,415
important fa calculation code.

5269
02:35:48,585 --> 02:35:49,286
Please insert chapter 14

5270
02:35:49,286 --> 02:35:52,286
Article three Division one in

5271
02:35:53,723 --> 02:35:54,491
the adu fa code and don't leave

5272
02:35:54,491 --> 02:35:58,910
it to dsd to evaluate and

5273
02:35:58,462 --> 02:35:59,128
calculate environmentally

5274
02:35:59,128 --> 02:35:59,630
sensitive land subjectively.

5275
02:35:59,630 --> 02:36:01,630
Next slide please.

5276
02:36:04,268 --> 02:36:04,668
This one is a simple code

5277
02:36:04,668 --> 02:36:05,350
correction.

5278
02:36:05,350 --> 02:36:07,350
Remove rs.

5279
02:36:09,273 --> 02:36:12,873
1-1 from the code below because

5280
02:36:14,111 --> 02:36:14,611
it has a fixed fa and it is not

5281
02:36:14,611 --> 02:36:16,611
in table 131 04j.

5282
02:36:18,382 --> 02:36:20,782
And then reference table 131

5283
02:36:23,200 --> 02:36:23,353
04d for the other rs zones

5284
02:36:23,353 --> 02:36:24,210
please.

5285
02:36:24,210 --> 02:36:26,421
And the last recommendation.

5286
02:36:28,525 --> 02:36:30,525
Next slide please.

5287
02:36:31,629 --> 02:36:35,229
The edu Cap Table 141 03a lot

5288
02:36:36,266 --> 02:36:37,133
ranges don't align with the fa

5289
02:36:37,133 --> 02:36:40,733
table lot ranges in 131 over j.

5290
02:36:41,539 --> 02:36:42,540
And if you look at the table

5291
02:36:42,540 --> 02:36:46,677
the edu cap table ranges are on

5292
02:36:46,677 --> 02:36:47,278
the left and the fa table

5293
02:36:47,278 --> 02:36:50,278
ranges are on the right.

5294
02:36:51,414 --> 02:36:52,830
Those should line up.

5295
02:36:52,830 --> 02:36:55,830
And fortunately I have just

5296
02:36:56,821 --> 02:36:57,487
over a minute left I would like

5297
02:36:57,487 --> 02:37:00,624
to point out that for some

5298
02:37:00,624 --> 02:37:03,240
reason the Planning Department

5299
02:37:05,629 --> 02:37:06,364
continues in the in the report

5300
02:37:06,364 --> 02:37:07,970
and in the presentation today

5301
02:37:07,970 --> 02:37:10,970
to reference San Diego Edu

5302
02:37:14,905 --> 02:37:15,806
rents at 110% for 2024 but this

5303
02:37:15,806 --> 02:37:20,600
is 2025 so that the rent for a

5304
02:37:20,144 --> 02:37:22,544
studio is no longer $2,300

5305
02:37:24,114 --> 02:37:27,714
The rent for a studio at 110%

5306
02:37:28,451 --> 02:37:32,510
am I is now $2,519 a month.

5307
02:37:32,389 --> 02:37:32,723
A one bedroom is no longer

5308
02:37:32,723 --> 02:37:34,723
$2,629.

5309
02:37:36,193 --> 02:37:39,897
It is now $2,878 and for a two

5310
02:37:39,897 --> 02:37:40,231
bedroom the rent is no longer

5311
02:37:40,231 --> 02:37:42,231
$2,958.

5312
02:37:43,968 --> 02:37:44,268
The current rent is $3,238 a

5313
02:37:44,268 --> 02:37:46,268
month.

5314
02:37:48,138 --> 02:37:48,839
So those are the numbers you

5315
02:37:48,839 --> 02:37:49,473
should keep in your mind when

5316
02:37:49,473 --> 02:37:51,473
you're considering current

5317
02:37:51,976 --> 02:37:52,376
rents for the 110%.

5318
02:37:52,376 --> 02:37:52,677
Am I?

5319
02:37:52,677 --> 02:37:54,677
Adios.

5320
02:37:55,460 --> 02:37:58,646
Thank you very much for your

5321
02:38:00,217 --> 02:38:00,985
time and attention.

5322
02:38:00,985 --> 02:38:01,485
>> Colin Parent If you come

5323
02:38:01,485 --> 02:38:03,885
please come up to

5324
02:38:05,890 --> 02:38:05,790
the microphone Call in parent

5325
02:38:05,790 --> 02:38:08,790
after call calling parent We

5326
02:38:10,427 --> 02:38:13,427
have Sean Duffy Polanco and

5327
02:38:15,233 --> 02:38:15,933
Ballinger, Kenny Key, Rick Rush

5328
02:38:15,933 --> 02:38:16,233
,Mike Bertolli and Dennis

5329
02:38:16,233 --> 02:38:17,101
Lynch.

5330
02:38:17,101 --> 02:38:20,701
If you can all please come

5331
02:38:21,973 --> 02:38:22,272
forward to the yellow reserved

5332
02:38:22,272 --> 02:38:22,940
seats.

5333
02:38:22,940 --> 02:38:25,809
>> Colin Sean I don't think

5334
02:38:25,809 --> 02:38:26,577
Colin's here okay?

5335
02:38:26,577 --> 02:38:27,178
I don't see him either.

5336
02:38:27,178 --> 02:38:27,745
You'll have one minute.

5337
02:38:27,745 --> 02:38:29,745
Please proceed, Sean.

5338
02:38:29,781 --> 02:38:30,448
Cool.

5339
02:38:30,448 --> 02:38:30,782
Good afternoon, Council

5340
02:38:30,782 --> 02:38:31,482
members.

5341
02:38:31,482 --> 02:38:35,820
My name is Sean Duffy Polanco.

5342
02:38:35,219 --> 02:38:35,987
I live in Carlsbad.

5343
02:38:35,987 --> 02:38:36,353
I'm a legal intern at Circulate

5344
02:38:36,353 --> 02:38:38,353
San Diego.

5345
02:38:39,323 --> 02:38:40,240
I'm going into my second year

5346
02:38:40,240 --> 02:38:40,624
of law school at Cal Western's

5347
02:38:40,624 --> 02:38:44,620
School of Law to which I

5348
02:38:44,620 --> 02:38:44,694
commute to for over an hour on

5349
02:38:44,694 --> 02:38:45,296
the coaster every weekday.

5350
02:38:45,296 --> 02:38:45,997
I'm here to ask the City

5351
02:38:45,997 --> 02:38:48,397
Council specifically to please

5352
02:38:49,433 --> 02:38:50,101
continue to consider allowing

5353
02:38:50,101 --> 02:38:50,401
it used to be available for

5354
02:38:50,401 --> 02:38:51,169
sale.

5355
02:38:51,169 --> 02:38:54,405
There's a stark lack of starter

5356
02:38:54,405 --> 02:38:55,139
level housing for younger

5357
02:38:55,139 --> 02:38:55,973
couples like myself and my wife

5358
02:38:55,973 --> 02:38:58,710
here in San Diego where we both

5359
02:38:58,710 --> 02:38:59,409
want to work and live.

5360
02:38:59,409 --> 02:39:02,409
Increased access to the option

5361
02:39:03,448 --> 02:39:04,148
to own live in and invest in a

5362
02:39:04,148 --> 02:39:04,882
much more local property that

5363
02:39:04,882 --> 02:39:05,750
fits our needs Now would be a

5364
02:39:05,750 --> 02:39:07,585
game changer for more than just

5365
02:39:07,585 --> 02:39:08,510
ourselves.

5366
02:39:08,510 --> 02:39:08,619
>> Thank you.

5367
02:39:08,619 --> 02:39:10,619
Thank you, Hannah.

5368
02:39:18,729 --> 02:39:19,664
Hi, my name is Hannah Bolinger

5369
02:39:19,664 --> 02:39:22,300
and I am a student intern at

5370
02:39:22,300 --> 02:39:23,330
Circulate San Diego.

5371
02:39:23,330 --> 02:39:26,330
In my neighborhood the median

5372
02:39:26,203 --> 02:39:27,720
home price is over $1 million.

5373
02:39:27,720 --> 02:39:31,272
I love living in San Diego and

5374
02:39:31,309 --> 02:39:31,943
I would love to live here but I

5375
02:39:31,943 --> 02:39:32,609
worry whether rising home

5376
02:39:32,609 --> 02:39:35,546
prices will prevent me from

5377
02:39:35,546 --> 02:39:36,213
becoming a first time homebuyer

5378
02:39:36,213 --> 02:39:36,614
and the same for many of my

5379
02:39:36,614 --> 02:39:37,482
classmates.

5380
02:39:37,482 --> 02:39:40,985
This is why I would support a

5381
02:39:40,985 --> 02:39:41,652
separate sale of Adus to help

5382
02:39:41,652 --> 02:39:42,353
lower income and first time

5383
02:39:42,353 --> 02:39:45,623
homebuyers in San Diego so we

5384
02:39:45,623 --> 02:39:45,923
can all enjoy this great place

5385
02:39:45,923 --> 02:39:46,324
.

5386
02:39:46,324 --> 02:39:46,824
Thank you.

5387
02:39:46,824 --> 02:39:48,824
Thank you, Kenny.

5388
02:39:48,959 --> 02:39:49,761
Kenny, you have people sitting

5389
02:39:49,761 --> 02:39:50,261
in your time If they can please

5390
02:39:50,261 --> 02:39:52,261
raise their hand.

5391
02:39:54,599 --> 02:39:55,990
Um.

5392
02:39:55,990 --> 02:39:57,990
Newland Thank you.

5393
02:39:59,504 --> 02:39:59,871
Uh, Sachi Ingleton.

5394
02:39:59,871 --> 02:40:01,871
Thank you.

5395
02:40:03,274 --> 02:40:03,608
Preston Smith and Anthony

5396
02:40:03,608 --> 02:40:04,242
Butkus.

5397
02:40:04,242 --> 02:40:06,642
You'll have five minutes.

5398
02:40:08,313 --> 02:40:08,813
Please proceed.

5399
02:40:08,813 --> 02:40:09,447
>> Hello.

5400
02:40:09,447 --> 02:40:12,447
Thank you for your time.

5401
02:40:13,184 --> 02:40:13,985
i guess my name is Kenny here

5402
02:40:13,985 --> 02:40:17,585
and I'm here representing a lot

5403
02:40:18,689 --> 02:40:19,390
of people in southeastern Kanto

5404
02:40:19,390 --> 02:40:22,990
that can't make it here today.

5405
02:40:23,894 --> 02:40:26,894
Basically all the people who

5406
02:40:28,633 --> 02:40:29,400
are outside of you guys bubble

5407
02:40:29,400 --> 02:40:30,167
because you go around town in

5408
02:40:30,167 --> 02:40:33,167
your bubble with people in

5409
02:40:34,505 --> 02:40:34,872
constituencies that are like

5410
02:40:34,872 --> 02:40:35,172
groupies.

5411
02:40:35,172 --> 02:40:37,172
Okay.

5412
02:40:38,443 --> 02:40:39,209
We represent new people like

5413
02:40:39,209 --> 02:40:39,643
the ones that you want to give

5414
02:40:39,643 --> 02:40:41,643
$2 grants to.

5415
02:40:44,516 --> 02:40:45,183
You know and happy about it.

5416
02:40:45,183 --> 02:40:45,750
Now we now represent them.

5417
02:40:45,750 --> 02:40:46,384
I'm here representing

5418
02:40:46,384 --> 02:40:48,920
the people the people I'm

5419
02:40:48,920 --> 02:40:49,554
representing is the ones you

5420
02:40:49,554 --> 02:40:52,554
guys refuse to listen to.

5421
02:40:54,580 --> 02:40:54,392
The ones that put you in

5422
02:40:54,392 --> 02:40:54,692
office.

5423
02:40:54,692 --> 02:40:56,692
Okay.

5424
02:40:58,597 --> 02:40:59,464
Each one of you guys represent

5425
02:40:59,464 --> 02:41:01,864
a collective body of

5426
02:41:04,302 --> 02:41:04,935
incompetence and the policies

5427
02:41:04,935 --> 02:41:05,837
coming out of this office.

5428
02:41:05,837 --> 02:41:08,973
You guys got to remember y'all

5429
02:41:08,973 --> 02:41:09,741
got a black flag right now.

5430
02:41:09,741 --> 02:41:12,741
You got a $250 million deficit

5431
02:41:13,311 --> 02:41:13,712
probably more than that.

5432
02:41:13,712 --> 02:41:14,346
Okay?

5433
02:41:14,346 --> 02:41:16,746
Because the goalposts keep

5434
02:41:18,116 --> 02:41:18,749
moving for the developers not

5435
02:41:18,749 --> 02:41:21,149
collecting fees from them.

5436
02:41:22,254 --> 02:41:22,554
It's ridiculous.

5437
02:41:22,554 --> 02:41:23,354
Okay.

5438
02:41:23,354 --> 02:41:23,822
There's a large body of people

5439
02:41:23,822 --> 02:41:25,822
in this city.

5440
02:41:28,590 --> 02:41:28,760
They feel like we need to gut

5441
02:41:28,760 --> 02:41:31,760
the council and start from

5442
02:41:31,897 --> 02:41:32,329
scratch because you refuse to

5443
02:41:32,329 --> 02:41:34,329
listen to us.

5444
02:41:37,680 --> 02:41:37,769
>> What kind of leaders are you

5445
02:41:37,769 --> 02:41:38,270
guys that refuse to listen to

5446
02:41:38,270 --> 02:41:40,270
your constituents?

5447
02:41:41,840 --> 02:41:42,707
How can you go?

5448
02:41:42,707 --> 02:41:46,907
Y'all need to go home and look

5449
02:41:47,211 --> 02:41:47,879
in the mirror and decide who

5450
02:41:47,879 --> 02:41:50,879
you want to represent these

5451
02:41:52,840 --> 02:41:52,384
developers and come up here in

5452
02:41:52,384 --> 02:41:53,117
line.

5453
02:41:53,117 --> 02:41:53,785
Because they they invested They

5454
02:41:53,785 --> 02:41:54,860
got this money on the line.

5455
02:41:54,860 --> 02:41:56,860
Yeah.

5456
02:41:56,888 --> 02:41:57,189
They want Jared to go in their

5457
02:41:57,189 --> 02:41:59,189
favor.

5458
02:42:01,359 --> 02:42:02,600
But you guys seem to cool with

5459
02:42:02,600 --> 02:42:04,460
having constituents sue y'all.

5460
02:42:05,231 --> 02:42:07,231
That's ridiculous.

5461
02:42:10,501 --> 02:42:10,802
Okay, We deserve better.

5462
02:42:10,802 --> 02:42:11,670
Okay.

5463
02:42:11,670 --> 02:42:15,270
And in these areas that are

5464
02:42:15,807 --> 02:42:16,608
overly condensed, we need you

5465
02:42:16,608 --> 02:42:17,609
to listen to us if you can.

5466
02:42:17,609 --> 02:42:20,378
>> Why you ain't hold no town

5467
02:42:20,378 --> 02:42:21,450
halls.

5468
02:42:21,450 --> 02:42:23,445
>> Really Don't, MR. Foster.

5469
02:42:24,983 --> 02:42:25,650
Why you won't come talk to

5470
02:42:25,650 --> 02:42:26,840
the people that are against

5471
02:42:26,840 --> 02:42:28,840
your policies.

5472
02:42:30,122 --> 02:42:30,855
Why you won't come talk to you

5473
02:42:30,855 --> 02:42:31,523
represent all of us in District

5474
02:42:31,523 --> 02:42:34,159
four And right now we can't

5475
02:42:34,159 --> 02:42:34,826
even talk to you.

5476
02:42:34,826 --> 02:42:35,627
That's just unacceptable.

5477
02:42:35,627 --> 02:42:38,627
You should not be walking

5478
02:42:40,165 --> 02:42:40,832
around town acting like you

5479
02:42:40,832 --> 02:42:43,832
represent in a community man

5480
02:42:44,903 --> 02:42:45,670
because you not And we here

5481
02:42:45,670 --> 02:42:49,270
telling you that all this push

5482
02:42:49,641 --> 02:42:50,242
back represent us Speak on

5483
02:42:50,242 --> 02:42:50,943
footnote seven debacles

5484
02:42:50,943 --> 02:42:53,943
the Clay Clybourne the Emerald

5485
02:42:54,145 --> 02:42:54,780
Hills Tower speak on that MR.

5486
02:42:54,780 --> 02:42:55,547
Foster we are here talking

5487
02:42:55,547 --> 02:42:58,547
about 80 use but y'all got

5488
02:42:59,785 --> 02:43:00,451
policies coming out of here.

5489
02:43:00,451 --> 02:43:01,220
It ain't just the 80 use.

5490
02:43:01,220 --> 02:43:01,620
It's just coming at us like

5491
02:43:01,620 --> 02:43:03,620
bombshells.

5492
02:43:04,255 --> 02:43:05,223
Yeah, like they said.

5493
02:43:05,223 --> 02:43:08,360
>> And it's like you guys are

5494
02:43:08,360 --> 02:43:08,760
responsible for what you gonna

5495
02:43:08,760 --> 02:43:09,161
do about it?

5496
02:43:09,161 --> 02:43:09,894
>> Nothing.

5497
02:43:09,894 --> 02:43:13,494
Just eat chips and watch me.

5498
02:43:13,598 --> 02:43:14,433
MR. Kapilow.

5499
02:43:14,433 --> 02:43:17,569
>> And we need a good this

5500
02:43:17,569 --> 02:43:21,169
council if you're not going to

5501
02:43:22,274 --> 02:43:22,974
represent us get out the way

5502
02:43:22,974 --> 02:43:24,974
and stop representing

5503
02:43:26,645 --> 02:43:27,513
the developers.

5504
02:43:27,513 --> 02:43:31,713
How many times we got to come

5505
02:43:32,500 --> 02:43:32,818
down here say this?

5506
02:43:32,818 --> 02:43:33,118
>> Put on yellow shirts and

5507
02:43:33,118 --> 02:43:35,118
stuff.

5508
02:43:37,255 --> 02:43:38,550
Y'all representing us What you

5509
02:43:38,550 --> 02:43:42,255
to do today What you what you

5510
02:43:42,494 --> 02:43:43,262
vote on today is just a start

5511
02:43:43,262 --> 02:43:46,262
because there's a lot of

5512
02:43:49,601 --> 02:43:50,569
projects coming down the pipe

5513
02:43:50,569 --> 02:43:54,769
which are how do y'all sleep at

5514
02:43:54,973 --> 02:43:55,541
night and just look down at

5515
02:43:55,541 --> 02:43:57,941
your papers and stuff?

5516
02:43:59,544 --> 02:44:00,412
Well look at you know know

5517
02:44:00,412 --> 02:44:01,113
little I pad I'm MR. Foster I

5518
02:44:01,113 --> 02:44:03,513
want representation That's why

5519
02:44:05,183 --> 02:44:08,183
I'm passionate and we're not

5520
02:44:08,787 --> 02:44:12,387
getting I I conclude next is

5521
02:44:14,627 --> 02:44:15,594
Rick fresh Rick you have time

5522
02:44:15,594 --> 02:44:15,961
ceded to you by Barbara Shrek

5523
02:44:15,961 --> 02:44:16,562
Thank you.

5524
02:44:16,562 --> 02:44:18,962
>> You have two minutes.

5525
02:44:20,999 --> 02:44:21,666
Please proceed.

5526
02:44:21,666 --> 02:44:24,666
And the main problem with

5527
02:44:26,305 --> 02:44:27,380
the proposal that is currently

5528
02:44:27,380 --> 02:44:30,380
advocated allowing a maximum of

5529
02:44:30,943 --> 02:44:31,610
seven days to use plus an

5530
02:44:31,610 --> 02:44:34,100
existing dwelling for eight

5531
02:44:36,148 --> 02:44:36,482
units on a single family lot

5532
02:44:36,482 --> 02:44:38,482
zone.

5533
02:44:40,251 --> 02:44:40,819
I've done a detailed analysis

5534
02:44:40,819 --> 02:44:41,520
of the lot sizes in

5535
02:44:41,520 --> 02:44:43,920
the University City Claremont

5536
02:44:49,328 --> 02:44:50,129
Linda Vista areas west of 163

5537
02:44:50,129 --> 02:44:52,529
and 805I identified 684 lots

5538
02:44:54,650 --> 02:44:54,800
greater than 5000ft in just

5539
02:44:54,800 --> 02:44:57,800
the Claremont and Linda Vista

5540
02:45:03,342 --> 02:45:04,143
rc 1-7 zones almost all of

5541
02:45:04,143 --> 02:45:05,100
these are in canyons and would

5542
02:45:05,100 --> 02:45:08,100
have at least 8000 foot even

5543
02:45:08,147 --> 02:45:08,848
after the adjustment for

5544
02:45:08,848 --> 02:45:10,848
environmental environmentally

5545
02:45:13,180 --> 02:45:13,786
sensitive lands.

5546
02:45:13,786 --> 02:45:16,786
Therefore most of these lots

5547
02:45:16,989 --> 02:45:17,289
would have eight units on them

5548
02:45:17,289 --> 02:45:17,990
.

5549
02:45:17,990 --> 02:45:20,990
This is simply too many.

5550
02:45:22,861 --> 02:45:23,562
Most of the slots have a front

5551
02:45:23,562 --> 02:45:27,162
footage of less than 70ft a

5552
02:45:27,599 --> 02:45:28,400
driveway usually takes up at

5553
02:45:28,400 --> 02:45:32,000
least 12 of those feet and this

5554
02:45:32,570 --> 02:45:33,271
will result in cars parked on

5555
02:45:33,271 --> 02:45:37,471
both sides not just in the cul

5556
02:45:37,575 --> 02:45:38,277
de sacs but also in the narrow

5557
02:45:38,277 --> 02:45:41,277
two way streets which will

5558
02:45:41,781 --> 02:45:42,514
severely limit the access to

5559
02:45:42,514 --> 02:45:44,914
emergency vehicles by emergency

5560
02:45:46,719 --> 02:45:47,420
vehicles.

5561
02:45:47,420 --> 02:45:48,870
I wonder why the city council

5562
02:45:48,870 --> 02:45:50,487
is not listening to

5563
02:45:52,580 --> 02:45:52,624
the recommendation of

5564
02:45:52,624 --> 02:45:53,359
the Community Planning

5565
02:45:53,359 --> 02:45:55,759
Commission and the neighborhood

5566
02:45:56,929 --> 02:45:57,696
for a better San Diego.

5567
02:45:57,696 --> 02:46:00,960
These organizations have spent

5568
02:46:01,968 --> 02:46:02,768
hundreds of volunteer hours

5569
02:46:02,768 --> 02:46:06,368
doing research and many of them

5570
02:46:07,206 --> 02:46:07,740
are actually hooked up to speed

5571
02:46:07,740 --> 02:46:08,140
on all the codes and

5572
02:46:08,140 --> 02:46:10,140
regulations.

5573
02:46:12,440 --> 02:46:12,745
So to ignore their

5574
02:46:12,745 --> 02:46:13,211
recommendations, you know it's

5575
02:46:13,211 --> 02:46:15,211
just not right.

5576
02:46:16,382 --> 02:46:17,490
It's very discouraging to these

5577
02:46:17,490 --> 02:46:17,783
organizations to be part of

5578
02:46:17,783 --> 02:46:20,783
your community planning and not

5579
02:46:21,821 --> 02:46:22,521
get listened to.

5580
02:46:22,521 --> 02:46:24,921
>> I support their basis.

5581
02:46:25,324 --> 02:46:25,924
They will report for unit for

5582
02:46:25,924 --> 02:46:27,924
that concluding remark.

5583
02:46:34,933 --> 02:46:35,635
>> Mike Good evening Mike for

5584
02:46:35,635 --> 02:46:36,503
Italian City Thanks very much

5585
02:46:36,503 --> 02:46:40,172
for taking time to hear a sell

5586
02:46:40,172 --> 02:46:40,939
out.

5587
02:46:40,939 --> 02:46:41,440
I'd like to start by focusing

5588
02:46:41,440 --> 02:46:42,341
on public safety.

5589
02:46:42,341 --> 02:46:44,610
It is are being built in high

5590
02:46:44,610 --> 02:46:45,278
risk fire zones in cul de sacs.

5591
02:46:45,278 --> 02:46:45,978
This flies in the face of

5592
02:46:45,978 --> 02:46:48,978
the San Diego Fire Department

5593
02:46:49,182 --> 02:46:49,849
and Cal fire schools protecting

5594
02:46:49,849 --> 02:46:52,249
evacuation quarters and they

5595
02:46:54,120 --> 02:46:54,821
violate fire fire codes you do

5596
02:46:54,821 --> 02:46:55,521
really great job and we very

5597
02:46:55,521 --> 02:46:56,189
much appreciate you restoring

5598
02:46:56,189 --> 02:46:58,589
funding for brush management

5599
02:46:59,592 --> 02:47:00,326
and the and the fire

5600
02:47:00,326 --> 02:47:00,692
department's budget just just a

5601
02:47:00,692 --> 02:47:02,692
week ago.

5602
02:47:03,229 --> 02:47:03,963
Please follow this up by making

5603
02:47:03,963 --> 02:47:07,563
fire safety the top priority in

5604
02:47:08,167 --> 02:47:09,350
this discussion.

5605
02:47:09,350 --> 02:47:12,635
In addition to posing a fire

5606
02:47:13,739 --> 02:47:14,440
risk, it isn't going to help

5607
02:47:14,440 --> 02:47:15,141
flooding because are going to

5608
02:47:15,141 --> 02:47:15,608
be paving over a whole lot of

5609
02:47:15,608 --> 02:47:16,309
permeable land.

5610
02:47:16,309 --> 02:47:17,910
So let's you know, let's kind

5611
02:47:17,910 --> 02:47:18,610
of told two birds with one

5612
02:47:18,610 --> 02:47:18,911
stone and make this a safer

5613
02:47:18,911 --> 02:47:20,911
city.

5614
02:47:22,582 --> 02:47:23,316
With that in mind, please

5615
02:47:23,316 --> 02:47:23,916
mandate a four foot fire safety

5616
02:47:23,916 --> 02:47:24,616
setbacks to neighboring

5617
02:47:24,616 --> 02:47:27,160
properties and prohibit bonus

5618
02:47:28,254 --> 02:47:28,955
areas from being built in very

5619
02:47:28,955 --> 02:47:31,955
high fire safety hazard zones

5620
02:47:33,192 --> 02:47:33,726
or in cul de sacs or streets

5621
02:47:33,726 --> 02:47:34,260
with limited access.

5622
02:47:34,260 --> 02:47:34,893
Thank you very much.

5623
02:47:34,893 --> 02:47:37,463
Please have a good day And

5624
02:47:37,463 --> 02:47:37,997
again I do appreciate your time

5625
02:47:37,997 --> 02:47:38,464
and your efforts.

5626
02:47:38,464 --> 02:47:40,464
>> Thank you.

5627
02:47:42,135 --> 02:47:42,902
Dennis Lynch.

5628
02:47:42,902 --> 02:47:43,236
You have time to buy Steve

5629
02:47:43,236 --> 02:47:43,502
Henson.

5630
02:47:43,502 --> 02:47:45,502
Yes.

5631
02:47:47,273 --> 02:47:48,400
Thank you.

5632
02:47:48,400 --> 02:47:48,441
He needs to raise his hand.

5633
02:47:48,441 --> 02:47:49,410
Thank you.

5634
02:47:49,410 --> 02:47:51,441
Now that's Steve Henson.

5635
02:47:52,178 --> 02:47:52,946
Thank you very much, sir.

5636
02:47:52,946 --> 02:47:53,612
Just give me one second.

5637
02:47:53,612 --> 02:47:54,313
I just need these people to

5638
02:47:54,313 --> 02:47:56,820
raise their hands so that they

5639
02:47:56,820 --> 02:47:56,749
can seed their time to you.

5640
02:47:56,749 --> 02:47:59,749
Steve Henson, are you here?

5641
02:48:02,956 --> 02:48:04,230
How about Gloria Henson?

5642
02:48:04,230 --> 02:48:07,623
Are you here Gloria or Steve

5643
02:48:08,261 --> 02:48:09,280
Henson?

5644
02:48:09,280 --> 02:48:09,729
They're not here to see your

5645
02:48:09,729 --> 02:48:10,630
time So then you will get one

5646
02:48:10,630 --> 02:48:12,630
minute.

5647
02:48:13,166 --> 02:48:13,833
Thank you very much.

5648
02:48:13,833 --> 02:48:14,601
Everybody can hear me.

5649
02:48:14,601 --> 02:48:18,370
I would like to talk about

5650
02:48:18,370 --> 02:48:18,337
the dimensions of Mission Beach

5651
02:48:18,337 --> 02:48:19,500
.

5652
02:48:19,500 --> 02:48:19,571
We are two miles long.

5653
02:48:19,571 --> 02:48:21,971
We are 700ft wide.

5654
02:48:23,610 --> 02:48:24,410
We are surrounded by water

5655
02:48:24,410 --> 02:48:27,813
ocean on one side of course and

5656
02:48:27,813 --> 02:48:28,681
mission bay on the other.

5657
02:48:28,681 --> 02:48:29,282
And if we have a coastal tidal

5658
02:48:29,282 --> 02:48:32,282
event we won't get out.

5659
02:48:33,190 --> 02:48:33,887
There's no sir.

5660
02:48:33,887 --> 02:48:34,187
I'm sorry I have to pause your

5661
02:48:34,187 --> 02:48:34,754
time.

5662
02:48:34,754 --> 02:48:35,540
You did already speak.

5663
02:48:35,540 --> 02:48:36,923
I did.

5664
02:48:36,923 --> 02:48:37,823
You did.

5665
02:48:37,823 --> 02:48:38,124
You can only speak once on a

5666
02:48:38,124 --> 02:48:38,824
night.

5667
02:48:38,824 --> 02:48:39,491
I thought somebody might have

5668
02:48:39,491 --> 02:48:39,793
showed up and give me extra

5669
02:48:39,793 --> 02:48:41,793
time.

5670
02:48:42,962 --> 02:48:43,629
No, sorry.

5671
02:48:43,629 --> 02:48:44,300
And they're not here yet.

5672
02:48:44,300 --> 02:48:44,397
Thank you.

5673
02:48:44,397 --> 02:48:46,397
Thank you.

5674
02:48:46,900 --> 02:48:47,200
Do Iris do you Good to be true

5675
02:48:47,200 --> 02:48:47,800
.

5676
02:48:47,800 --> 02:48:48,334
I have the good man.

5677
02:48:48,334 --> 02:48:50,334
Thank you, counsel.

5678
02:48:51,804 --> 02:48:52,605
Thank you, Susan Give you a

5679
02:48:52,605 --> 02:48:56,205
bonus points for time It was

5680
02:48:56,375 --> 02:49:00,575
just to do it takes it takes

5681
02:49:01,181 --> 02:49:02,148
everyone to get this Susan

5682
02:49:02,148 --> 02:49:05,148
Susan Ruby and then Karen

5683
02:49:06,419 --> 02:49:08,819
Cordeiro Kaplan Karen Avner

5684
02:49:11,424 --> 02:49:14,424
Alva Rapp Angela Goosey Charles

5685
02:49:15,562 --> 02:49:16,262
Tester Joycelyn and lovelies

5686
02:49:16,262 --> 02:49:19,862
Jeff Huber If you can all

5687
02:49:20,500 --> 02:49:21,200
please come up to the front row

5688
02:49:21,200 --> 02:49:24,800
I'll say the names one more

5689
02:49:25,738 --> 02:49:28,138
time Susan Dart Derby.

5690
02:49:29,476 --> 02:49:32,476
Karen Kadir Joe Kaplan Karen

5691
02:49:34,481 --> 02:49:36,481
Abner Alva Rapp.

5692
02:49:38,451 --> 02:49:39,218
Angela Gazi Joycelyn Now Susan

5693
02:49:39,218 --> 02:49:42,818
I thought you had ceded your

5694
02:49:44,123 --> 02:49:44,891
time to somebody No.

5695
02:49:44,891 --> 02:49:45,225
Yeah, I'll look for your

5696
02:49:45,225 --> 02:49:45,925
client.

5697
02:49:45,925 --> 02:49:48,925
Well, let's start with Karen,

5698
02:49:51,960 --> 02:49:51,731
dear Kaplan Good afternoon.

5699
02:49:51,731 --> 02:49:54,131
Karen Good or Kaplan.

5700
02:49:56,690 --> 02:49:56,836
I just wanted to come up to

5701
02:49:56,836 --> 02:50:00,807
everyone has said a lot and I

5702
02:50:00,807 --> 02:50:01,508
think it's important that you

5703
02:50:01,508 --> 02:50:04,508
know, for this many community

5704
02:50:05,578 --> 02:50:06,313
members to show up is pretty

5705
02:50:06,313 --> 02:50:09,313
impressive over and over again.

5706
02:50:09,815 --> 02:50:10,516
And I really think that you've

5707
02:50:10,516 --> 02:50:11,217
had members of the public as

5708
02:50:11,217 --> 02:50:13,617
well as organizations present

5709
02:50:15,288 --> 02:50:15,956
some critical data critical

5710
02:50:15,956 --> 02:50:18,956
code that you really should

5711
02:50:20,260 --> 02:50:22,426
look at because what's

5712
02:50:24,730 --> 02:50:25,432
happening is affecting everyone

5713
02:50:25,432 --> 02:50:27,832
from all these communities.

5714
02:50:30,360 --> 02:50:30,737
So I just really want to just

5715
02:50:30,737 --> 02:50:31,438
support or encourage you to

5716
02:50:31,438 --> 02:50:35,380
look out Neighbors for a Barry

5717
02:50:35,242 --> 02:50:35,942
San Diego recommendations and

5718
02:50:35,942 --> 02:50:36,643
recommendations that have been

5719
02:50:36,643 --> 02:50:39,430
presented by community members

5720
02:50:40,312 --> 02:50:41,140
who have done more research

5721
02:50:41,140 --> 02:50:44,614
than I have at this point.

5722
02:50:44,951 --> 02:50:45,752
But you know basically you know

5723
02:50:45,752 --> 02:50:46,510
for for ada use I'm a property

5724
02:50:46,510 --> 02:50:48,510
owner.

5725
02:50:49,455 --> 02:50:50,223
I as a single family I don't

5726
02:50:50,223 --> 02:50:50,523
think I could afford more than

5727
02:50:50,523 --> 02:50:50,891
that.

5728
02:50:50,891 --> 02:50:51,591
>> Right.

5729
02:50:51,591 --> 02:50:54,861
So who's affording to be able

5730
02:50:54,861 --> 02:50:55,629
to put six, eight, ten So I

5731
02:50:55,629 --> 02:50:56,296
just want to put that out there

5732
02:50:56,296 --> 02:50:59,499
and thank you for your Thank

5733
02:50:59,499 --> 02:51:01,899
you, Karen Abner Okay.

5734
02:51:04,771 --> 02:51:05,720
Karen Abner, are you here in my

5735
02:51:05,720 --> 02:51:07,720
time?

5736
02:51:09,208 --> 02:51:09,509
You're Karen Abner Yes.

5737
02:51:09,509 --> 02:51:10,176
Okay.

5738
02:51:10,176 --> 02:51:10,844
And then Roger Kaplan had

5739
02:51:10,844 --> 02:51:13,713
seated his time to you Roger

5740
02:51:13,713 --> 02:51:14,114
are you sitting your time?

5741
02:51:14,114 --> 02:51:14,413
Yes.

5742
02:51:14,413 --> 02:51:16,413
Okay.

5743
02:51:17,984 --> 02:51:18,819
To Paul Krueger.

5744
02:51:18,819 --> 02:51:19,119
Yes, I'm seeing my time to

5745
02:51:19,119 --> 02:51:21,119
Paul.

5746
02:51:23,757 --> 02:51:24,457
Okay, Paul, you reach your max

5747
02:51:24,457 --> 02:51:24,893
of 15 minutes with those two

5748
02:51:24,893 --> 02:51:26,893
sitting time.

5749
02:51:28,127 --> 02:51:28,829
>> I'm not.

5750
02:51:28,829 --> 02:51:29,195
But you're not up yet.

5751
02:51:29,195 --> 02:51:29,495
Oh, okay.

5752
02:51:29,495 --> 02:51:31,495
Yeah.

5753
02:51:32,599 --> 02:51:33,300
Just when it is your turn,

5754
02:51:33,300 --> 02:51:36,900
those two will go to you.

5755
02:51:37,437 --> 02:51:38,104
So next is Alva wrap.

5756
02:51:38,104 --> 02:51:38,805
>> Alva, you have several

5757
02:51:38,805 --> 02:51:39,730
people that have ceded time to

5758
02:51:39,730 --> 02:51:41,730
you.

5759
02:51:42,576 --> 02:51:46,176
If they can raise their hand.

5760
02:51:46,346 --> 02:51:46,813
Gerald Rapp, Theresa Beatty.

5761
02:51:46,813 --> 02:51:48,813
Thank you sir.

5762
02:51:51,418 --> 02:51:51,952
Each year category Thank you

5763
02:51:51,952 --> 02:51:54,352
Mary Jean Del Campo.

5764
02:51:59,590 --> 02:51:59,426
Betsy Smith, Christy Christa

5765
02:51:59,426 --> 02:52:01,426
Fischman.

5766
02:52:03,696 --> 02:52:04,264
>> Thank you Michelle Schroeder

5767
02:52:04,264 --> 02:52:06,264
and Jacqueline Harris.

5768
02:52:07,868 --> 02:52:08,502
Thank you so much.

5769
02:52:08,502 --> 02:52:08,968
You'll have nine minutes.

5770
02:52:08,968 --> 02:52:10,968
Please proceed.

5771
02:52:12,905 --> 02:52:13,573
I thank you for listening to my

5772
02:52:13,573 --> 02:52:14,241
small speech that has gotten

5773
02:52:14,241 --> 02:52:17,241
very much smaller because of

5774
02:52:18,245 --> 02:52:18,811
all the great points that have

5775
02:52:18,811 --> 02:52:19,446
been brought up today.

5776
02:52:19,446 --> 02:52:20,213
I did find it a little

5777
02:52:20,213 --> 02:52:23,249
confusing though You ask us not

5778
02:52:23,249 --> 02:52:23,950
to cheer and not to clap but I

5779
02:52:23,950 --> 02:52:27,550
counted over half of you Have

5780
02:52:28,288 --> 02:52:28,889
your eyes down so if you could

5781
02:52:28,889 --> 02:52:29,556
please pay attention to

5782
02:52:29,556 --> 02:52:32,426
the crowd when they do their

5783
02:52:32,426 --> 02:52:34,826
their their nonverbal cheering

5784
02:52:37,498 --> 02:52:38,198
and all that So I'd like to

5785
02:52:38,198 --> 02:52:41,340
also start off with a quote

5786
02:52:41,340 --> 02:52:41,802
from the Bible It's from Luke

5787
02:52:41,802 --> 02:52:44,802
1428 Which of you wishing to

5788
02:52:46,340 --> 02:52:47,410
build a tower does not first

5789
02:52:47,410 --> 02:52:51,241
sit down and count the cost to

5790
02:52:51,278 --> 02:52:51,678
see if he has the resources to

5791
02:52:51,678 --> 02:52:52,346
complete it?

5792
02:52:52,346 --> 02:52:55,946
That's the end of the verse.

5793
02:52:56,500 --> 02:52:56,816
The cost of this bonus edu

5794
02:52:56,816 --> 02:53:00,487
program is too high and we do

5795
02:53:00,487 --> 02:53:00,888
not have the resources to

5796
02:53:00,888 --> 02:53:01,488
complete it.

5797
02:53:01,488 --> 02:53:01,889
There is no limit on

5798
02:53:01,889 --> 02:53:03,889
the growth.

5799
02:53:05,659 --> 02:53:06,128
You are not following the city

5800
02:53:06,128 --> 02:53:06,793
recommendations.

5801
02:53:06,793 --> 02:53:09,793
There's a very clear chart.

5802
02:53:10,631 --> 02:53:11,665
It's not hard to read.

5803
02:53:11,665 --> 02:53:15,736
I did it in just probably about

5804
02:53:15,736 --> 02:53:16,570
20 minutes.

5805
02:53:16,570 --> 02:53:20,730
I would like to take you back

5806
02:53:20,730 --> 02:53:20,608
in time to the 1900s as our

5807
02:53:20,608 --> 02:53:21,308
grandkids call them.

5808
02:53:21,308 --> 02:53:24,144
That time wasn't so long ago.

5809
02:53:24,144 --> 02:53:25,120
This is my husband Jerry.

5810
02:53:25,120 --> 02:53:29,820
We live on Shoshone Avenue in a

5811
02:53:29,820 --> 02:53:29,750
cul de sac in Claremont.

5812
02:53:29,750 --> 02:53:30,517
Ours was one of the first

5813
02:53:30,517 --> 02:53:34,210
places that got hit hard with

5814
02:53:34,210 --> 02:53:34,722
the unexpected growth and

5815
02:53:34,722 --> 02:53:35,489
development without any of us

5816
02:53:35,489 --> 02:53:39,890
knowing anything And as many of

5817
02:53:39,259 --> 02:53:39,927
the other people have said it

5818
02:53:39,927 --> 02:53:41,862
was a secretive thing which

5819
02:53:41,862 --> 02:53:44,862
secrets are usually done in

5820
02:53:47,334 --> 02:53:48,102
secret because they are wrong.

5821
02:53:48,102 --> 02:53:51,702
I've been asked by people my

5822
02:53:52,339 --> 02:53:52,840
friends why try to change this

5823
02:53:52,840 --> 02:53:53,273
bonus to you?

5824
02:53:53,273 --> 02:53:55,273
It's the law.

5825
02:53:56,710 --> 02:53:57,411
Well guess what You guys are

5826
02:53:57,411 --> 02:53:58,145
the lawmakers change the bonus

5827
02:53:58,145 --> 02:54:01,745
to you so it's not unreasonable

5828
02:54:02,830 --> 02:54:02,850
and so we can accept it.

5829
02:54:02,850 --> 02:54:03,451
Most of the people in this room

5830
02:54:03,451 --> 02:54:05,851
are not against 80 use.

5831
02:54:07,220 --> 02:54:07,888
I am not I don't know of

5832
02:54:07,888 --> 02:54:08,723
anybody who would be If you

5833
02:54:08,723 --> 02:54:11,225
want to earn extra money you

5834
02:54:11,225 --> 02:54:11,525
want your grandma to live

5835
02:54:11,525 --> 02:54:12,192
there.

5836
02:54:12,192 --> 02:54:12,692
>> You want your children to

5837
02:54:12,692 --> 02:54:14,692
live there, fine.

5838
02:54:16,290 --> 02:54:16,863
That's not my business.

5839
02:54:16,863 --> 02:54:17,498
But if you bring in these

5840
02:54:17,498 --> 02:54:18,198
bonuses to use is going to

5841
02:54:18,198 --> 02:54:20,934
cause nothing but calamity to

5842
02:54:20,934 --> 02:54:21,235
our little quiet neighborhoods

5843
02:54:21,235 --> 02:54:22,360
.

5844
02:54:22,360 --> 02:54:22,703
We are single family homeowners

5845
02:54:22,703 --> 02:54:26,303
who have worked hard to earn

5846
02:54:26,407 --> 02:54:27,108
and achieve our American dream.

5847
02:54:27,108 --> 02:54:30,108
We are the endangered species

5848
02:54:31,312 --> 02:54:32,113
If we have an endangered plant

5849
02:54:32,113 --> 02:54:32,980
or animal on a property say a

5850
02:54:32,980 --> 02:54:35,816
bird or lizard they would stop

5851
02:54:35,816 --> 02:54:36,450
cramming these bonus ideas on

5852
02:54:36,450 --> 02:54:39,450
that site and protect that

5853
02:54:40,488 --> 02:54:41,189
fragile life on and around that

5854
02:54:41,189 --> 02:54:43,589
property As endangered single

5855
02:54:45,626 --> 02:54:46,293
home owner neighbors we think

5856
02:54:46,293 --> 02:54:46,961
that we also should receive

5857
02:54:46,961 --> 02:54:49,961
the same awareness of damage

5858
02:54:50,864 --> 02:54:51,598
and the protection of our

5859
02:54:51,598 --> 02:54:55,198
existence as we are just asking

5860
02:54:55,536 --> 02:54:55,836
to follow the state regulations

5861
02:54:55,836 --> 02:54:56,604
.

5862
02:54:56,604 --> 02:54:57,305
>> Are these numbers that you

5863
02:54:57,305 --> 02:54:59,773
and the Planning committee are

5864
02:54:59,773 --> 02:55:00,441
coming up with Are colliding

5865
02:55:00,441 --> 02:55:01,750
with the state regulations?

5866
02:55:01,750 --> 02:55:01,374
I don't even think they're

5867
02:55:01,374 --> 02:55:03,374
legal.

5868
02:55:05,112 --> 02:55:05,612
The state regulations were not

5869
02:55:05,612 --> 02:55:06,113
made on a whim.

5870
02:55:06,113 --> 02:55:08,113
They had research.

5871
02:55:10,517 --> 02:55:10,984
They did an environmental

5872
02:55:10,984 --> 02:55:11,652
impacts.

5873
02:55:11,652 --> 02:55:12,320
They realized the plight of

5874
02:55:12,320 --> 02:55:15,550
having more to use on a

5875
02:55:15,550 --> 02:55:15,823
property than it can tolerate

5876
02:55:15,823 --> 02:55:16,390
in a single family resident

5877
02:55:16,390 --> 02:55:19,390
home area or a little

5878
02:55:20,128 --> 02:55:20,761
neighborhoods are zoned to as

5879
02:55:20,761 --> 02:55:21,329
such to give neighborhood

5880
02:55:21,329 --> 02:55:23,329
function and balance.

5881
02:55:24,332 --> 02:55:24,965
We have other zoned areas for

5882
02:55:24,965 --> 02:55:27,365
the same reason commercial

5883
02:55:29,300 --> 02:55:29,870
multifamily to name a couple

5884
02:55:29,870 --> 02:55:33,470
and we cannot build our new

5885
02:55:34,876 --> 02:55:38,579
family home in an area that is

5886
02:55:38,579 --> 02:55:39,213
not zoned for my adorable 4000

5887
02:55:39,213 --> 02:55:42,213
square foot home right in

5888
02:55:42,483 --> 02:55:43,151
the smack of downtown La Hoya

5889
02:55:43,151 --> 02:55:43,450
because it's not zoned for

5890
02:55:43,450 --> 02:55:44,252
that.

5891
02:55:44,252 --> 02:55:47,252
>> It's zoned for business and

5892
02:55:47,955 --> 02:55:48,289
it's not zoned for residential

5893
02:55:48,289 --> 02:55:50,289
at all.

5894
02:55:52,760 --> 02:55:53,561
>> All of the all of you that

5895
02:55:53,561 --> 02:55:54,262
think this bonus to you program

5896
02:55:54,262 --> 02:55:54,928
has merit and we're addressing

5897
02:55:54,928 --> 02:55:57,398
the need for the affordable

5898
02:55:57,398 --> 02:55:58,980
housing that you're that you're

5899
02:55:58,980 --> 02:56:01,980
drinking the Kool-Aid on that

5900
02:56:02,300 --> 02:56:02,670
let me just tell you that

5901
02:56:02,670 --> 02:56:03,204
the ones that lived here for

5902
02:56:03,204 --> 02:56:05,204
decades don't agree.

5903
02:56:07,141 --> 02:56:07,875
Why not?

5904
02:56:07,875 --> 02:56:08,342
All of you take matters into

5905
02:56:08,342 --> 02:56:09,100
your own hands.

5906
02:56:09,100 --> 02:56:11,346
Why don't you put your money

5907
02:56:11,346 --> 02:56:12,113
where your mouth is?

5908
02:56:12,113 --> 02:56:15,713
Pam has some great numbers for

5909
02:56:16,584 --> 02:56:17,251
you of the developers and since

5910
02:56:17,251 --> 02:56:17,919
you're so strongly intent on

5911
02:56:17,919 --> 02:56:18,620
building these granny towers

5912
02:56:18,620 --> 02:56:21,956
why don't we just go ahead and

5913
02:56:21,956 --> 02:56:22,623
arrange them to build not just

5914
02:56:22,623 --> 02:56:25,230
in your neighbor's backyards

5915
02:56:25,760 --> 02:56:26,527
but yes your backyard to that

5916
02:56:26,527 --> 02:56:29,527
three year old playing in

5917
02:56:30,300 --> 02:56:30,697
the backyard, that three year

5918
02:56:30,697 --> 02:56:31,266
old playing in the backyard?

5919
02:56:31,266 --> 02:56:31,632
Well that's a thing of

5920
02:56:31,632 --> 02:56:33,632
the past.

5921
02:56:33,868 --> 02:56:34,735
So if it's okay to build Bonnie

5922
02:56:34,735 --> 02:56:35,470
say to use to use it the cost

5923
02:56:35,470 --> 02:56:38,740
of decreased value of our homes

5924
02:56:38,740 --> 02:56:39,507
that we've worked hard for

5925
02:56:39,507 --> 02:56:40,174
years to establish and keep and

5926
02:56:40,174 --> 02:56:43,174
hold on to working multiple

5927
02:56:44,345 --> 02:56:45,790
jobs if necessary for

5928
02:56:45,790 --> 02:56:45,780
sabotaging our way of life then

5929
02:56:45,780 --> 02:56:46,470
you should be good enough for

5930
02:56:46,470 --> 02:56:48,470
you.

5931
02:56:48,316 --> 02:56:49,183
>> And it turns out it's really

5932
02:56:49,183 --> 02:56:52,783
easy to play with another man's

5933
02:56:53,721 --> 02:56:54,880
deck until you have skin in

5934
02:56:54,880 --> 02:56:56,880
the game.

5935
02:56:58,359 --> 02:56:58,960
I don't think you can really

5936
02:56:58,960 --> 02:56:59,593
have empathy for these

5937
02:56:59,593 --> 02:57:01,993
neighborhoods and the new

5938
02:57:03,264 --> 02:57:04,320
mistakes that you're making and

5939
02:57:04,320 --> 02:57:04,733
you don't have the power to

5940
02:57:04,733 --> 02:57:07,733
rectify the problems when they

5941
02:57:08,135 --> 02:57:08,569
do come there are many lots all

5942
02:57:08,569 --> 02:57:09,237
over the city.

5943
02:57:09,237 --> 02:57:12,237
They're not in single family

5944
02:57:12,907 --> 02:57:13,574
home areas Use These abandoned

5945
02:57:13,574 --> 02:57:14,420
stores also can be used as

5946
02:57:14,420 --> 02:57:16,420
building sites.

5947
02:57:18,412 --> 02:57:19,130
Please call them what they are

5948
02:57:19,130 --> 02:57:19,681
These bonuses to use our

5949
02:57:19,681 --> 02:57:21,681
apartment buildings calling

5950
02:57:22,516 --> 02:57:23,185
them to use is like

5951
02:57:23,185 --> 02:57:23,885
the Emperor's New Clothes a

5952
02:57:23,885 --> 02:57:26,885
children's story that is well

5953
02:57:27,155 --> 02:57:27,855
known.

5954
02:57:27,855 --> 02:57:28,490
Everyone can see the problem

5955
02:57:28,490 --> 02:57:28,957
but no one has the guts to

5956
02:57:28,957 --> 02:57:30,957
speak the truth.

5957
02:57:31,726 --> 02:57:32,427
Well, these people behind me

5958
02:57:32,427 --> 02:57:36,270
myself and my husband we do

5959
02:57:36,664 --> 02:57:37,365
have the guts and we will go

5960
02:57:37,365 --> 02:57:41,536
down on the carpet on the mat

5961
02:57:41,536 --> 02:57:41,935
and fight against these bonuses

5962
02:57:41,935 --> 02:57:42,704
to use.

5963
02:57:42,704 --> 02:57:46,304
Where are the studies to prove

5964
02:57:46,741 --> 02:57:47,375
that these bonuses to use would

5965
02:57:47,375 --> 02:57:49,775
work in residential areas?

5966
02:57:51,120 --> 02:57:51,513
What There weren't any done.

5967
02:57:51,513 --> 02:57:52,547
>> What happened?

5968
02:57:52,547 --> 02:57:56,417
The city is just going off on a

5969
02:57:56,417 --> 02:57:57,218
lark and going rogue to quote

5970
02:57:57,218 --> 02:58:00,218
my husband This is an

5971
02:58:01,156 --> 02:58:01,790
experiment gone wrong.

5972
02:58:01,790 --> 02:58:02,523
Insanity is doing the same

5973
02:58:02,523 --> 02:58:05,523
thing over and over and

5974
02:58:05,560 --> 02:58:07,560
expecting different results.

5975
02:58:09,130 --> 02:58:09,831
Bonuses to use will cause only

5976
02:58:09,831 --> 02:58:12,831
one result calamities to once

5977
02:58:14,369 --> 02:58:15,690
quiet San Diego neighborhoods.

5978
02:58:15,690 --> 02:58:15,804
This is persecution of single

5979
02:58:15,804 --> 02:58:18,740
family home owners at its

5980
02:58:18,740 --> 02:58:19,641
finest.

5981
02:58:19,641 --> 02:58:20,208
It is discriminatory and if we

5982
02:58:20,208 --> 02:58:22,608
were a minority group

5983
02:58:24,120 --> 02:58:24,746
the outcry would be so loud and

5984
02:58:24,746 --> 02:58:25,380
the injustice would be so great

5985
02:58:25,380 --> 02:58:25,947
that the program would be

5986
02:58:25,947 --> 02:58:27,947
halted and completely

5987
02:58:29,116 --> 02:58:29,650
annihilated As far as getting

5988
02:58:29,650 --> 02:58:30,385
homeless people off

5989
02:58:30,385 --> 02:58:32,954
the streets, most of them don't

5990
02:58:32,954 --> 02:58:33,388
even live in shelters because

5991
02:58:33,388 --> 02:58:34,122
of the rules.

5992
02:58:34,122 --> 02:58:34,656
>> There will be rules for

5993
02:58:34,656 --> 02:58:36,656
these units, right?

5994
02:58:38,293 --> 02:58:39,600
I mean they're not just going

5995
02:58:39,600 --> 02:58:39,728
to be able to have anybody in

5996
02:58:39,728 --> 02:58:43,328
there be able to do anything

5997
02:58:43,497 --> 02:58:44,199
that they want any time day or

5998
02:58:44,199 --> 02:58:44,933
night, trash day If there's an

5999
02:58:44,933 --> 02:58:45,567
ambulance coming down the road,

6000
02:58:45,567 --> 02:58:48,603
they don't have to pay any

6001
02:58:48,603 --> 02:58:49,271
attention to them.

6002
02:58:49,271 --> 02:58:49,938
Also there's something else

6003
02:58:49,938 --> 02:58:53,538
that I don't think it's been

6004
02:58:53,742 --> 02:58:54,443
really brought up and that is

6005
02:58:54,443 --> 02:58:57,443
that once you allow these 80

6006
02:58:57,646 --> 02:59:01,516
used to be bought and to be

6007
02:59:01,516 --> 02:59:04,516
family owned as forever homes

6008
02:59:07,189 --> 02:59:07,956
at 450ft these these 450ft

6009
02:59:07,956 --> 02:59:10,956
family homes as you're calling

6010
02:59:11,360 --> 02:59:11,960
them will be under

6011
02:59:11,960 --> 02:59:12,627
the jurisdiction of that

6012
02:59:12,627 --> 02:59:15,627
homeowner and they will have

6013
02:59:16,464 --> 02:59:17,433
the right and privilege to be

6014
02:59:17,433 --> 02:59:21,330
able to rent out their 82 new

6015
02:59:21,470 --> 02:59:23,870
home as an Airbnb.

6016
02:59:26,474 --> 02:59:27,750
And we all know what calamities

6017
02:59:27,750 --> 02:59:27,575
are brings on to

6018
02:59:27,575 --> 02:59:28,310
the neighborhood.

6019
02:59:28,310 --> 02:59:28,643
It's impossible to manage these

6020
02:59:28,643 --> 02:59:30,643
people.

6021
02:59:31,780 --> 02:59:32,514
They're here for vacation.

6022
02:59:32,514 --> 02:59:32,881
They're not here to clean up

6023
02:59:32,881 --> 02:59:34,383
our city.

6024
02:59:34,383 --> 02:59:34,783
Take care of the neighborhood's

6025
02:59:34,783 --> 02:59:36,783
reputation.

6026
02:59:39,955 --> 02:59:40,889
>> None of that.

6027
02:59:40,889 --> 02:59:44,489
>> I just want to remind you

6028
02:59:45,260 --> 02:59:45,928
all that this is not Monopoly.

6029
02:59:45,928 --> 02:59:48,928
The board cannot handle any

6030
02:59:50,465 --> 02:59:51,433
more houses and none should be

6031
02:59:51,433 --> 02:59:54,536
given out As far as rights I

6032
02:59:54,536 --> 02:59:55,360
would plead with you Please

6033
02:59:55,360 --> 02:59:55,704
stop immediately.

6034
02:59:55,704 --> 02:59:58,704
Any building that's going on

6035
02:59:59,708 --> 03:00:00,275
right now stop immediately any

6036
03:00:00,275 --> 03:00:00,943
permits these are all

6037
03:00:00,943 --> 03:00:02,643
unreasonable and they should

6038
03:00:02,643 --> 03:00:05,430
have never gotten approved

6039
03:00:07,815 --> 03:00:08,517
before.

6040
03:00:08,517 --> 03:00:09,184
A quick question to everybody

6041
03:00:09,184 --> 03:00:12,184
that's been arguing this If

6042
03:00:13,155 --> 03:00:13,722
it's too expensive to live here

6043
03:00:13,722 --> 03:00:14,623
and we have plenty of

6044
03:00:14,623 --> 03:00:18,223
resources, why do we have water

6045
03:00:18,660 --> 03:00:19,394
restriction and why do we have

6046
03:00:19,394 --> 03:00:19,994
emergency shutdown of the power

6047
03:00:19,994 --> 03:00:22,994
grid and gridlock on our

6048
03:00:23,532 --> 03:00:24,600
freeways and side streets from

6049
03:00:24,600 --> 03:00:28,303
two a 2 P.M. To 7 P.M. Every

6050
03:00:28,303 --> 03:00:28,871
single workday?

6051
03:00:28,871 --> 03:00:31,271
Also a question for

6052
03:00:33,408 --> 03:00:34,143
the Planning board How do these

6053
03:00:34,143 --> 03:00:37,143
bonus to use serve neighborhood

6054
03:00:38,914 --> 03:00:39,681
compatibility not sure on that

6055
03:00:39,681 --> 03:00:43,281
one what that even means and

6056
03:00:43,819 --> 03:00:46,819
anyway why is our neighborhood

6057
03:00:47,655 --> 03:00:48,390
which is rs 1.7 why are we not

6058
03:00:48,390 --> 03:00:51,390
being considered as exempt from

6059
03:00:52,194 --> 03:00:52,928
that bonus?

6060
03:00:52,928 --> 03:00:53,629
Do you program what happened?

6061
03:00:53,629 --> 03:00:54,763
How do we get off the list?

6062
03:00:54,763 --> 03:00:57,763
Do we make somebody mad?

6063
03:01:00,269 --> 03:01:01,203
>> What happened In conclusion

6064
03:01:01,203 --> 03:01:04,907
I just like to say that from

6065
03:01:04,907 --> 03:01:05,674
the bottom of my heart as a

6066
03:01:05,674 --> 03:01:08,740
professional friend of over 30

6067
03:01:09,577 --> 03:01:10,311
years the most important things

6068
03:01:10,311 --> 03:01:13,449
that I can give my patients are

6069
03:01:13,449 --> 03:01:14,149
hope and control.

6070
03:01:14,149 --> 03:01:14,516
>> These are your patients.

6071
03:01:14,516 --> 03:01:15,384
Thank you.

6072
03:01:15,384 --> 03:01:18,384
Thank you for your concluding

6073
03:01:19,988 --> 03:01:23,588
remarks Susan Jury d you are

6074
03:01:24,590 --> 03:01:26,590
what Susan No.

6075
03:01:29,898 --> 03:01:30,266
Susan Oh Oh, You are seeing

6076
03:01:30,266 --> 03:01:30,966
your time.

6077
03:01:30,966 --> 03:01:31,833
I just saw a Tribeca Batiste.

6078
03:01:31,833 --> 03:01:34,360
This is why we put our lips

6079
03:01:34,360 --> 03:01:34,903
together.

6080
03:01:34,903 --> 03:01:35,336
Next I'll find her and reunite

6081
03:01:35,336 --> 03:01:37,336
you with her.

6082
03:01:39,241 --> 03:01:40,420
Angela Grooving Angela your

6083
03:01:40,420 --> 03:01:43,420
seeding time with Sorry People

6084
03:01:44,790 --> 03:01:47,679
are seeding time to you Bill

6085
03:01:48,616 --> 03:01:52,216
Cousy Bill There you go Louis

6086
03:01:53,155 --> 03:01:53,956
So hey that Jackie Hernandez

6087
03:01:53,956 --> 03:01:56,356
Sharon Kramer Jennifer Gold

6088
03:01:59,270 --> 03:02:02,627
Kyle Can Lee and that seven

6089
03:02:03,198 --> 03:02:03,898
minutes Please proceed Now you

6090
03:02:03,898 --> 03:02:04,533
have a PowerPoint presentation

6091
03:02:04,533 --> 03:02:06,101
We'll be putting that up.

6092
03:02:06,101 --> 03:02:09,701
I won't start your time until

6093
03:02:53,482 --> 03:02:53,783
the PowerPoint is up

6094
03:02:53,783 --> 03:02:54,450
.

6095
03:02:54,450 --> 03:02:54,917
>> Good afternoon everyone.

6096
03:02:54,917 --> 03:02:56,917
Please proceed.

6097
03:02:59,488 --> 03:03:00,156
My name is Angela Goosey.

6098
03:03:00,156 --> 03:03:00,456
I'm here representing Linda

6099
03:03:00,456 --> 03:03:02,456
Vista.

6100
03:03:03,459 --> 03:03:04,227
It's a place where I grew up,

6101
03:03:04,227 --> 03:03:05,293
where I was born and raised and

6102
03:03:05,293 --> 03:03:07,396
I live next door to my mom who

6103
03:03:07,396 --> 03:03:11,596
owns the same house that I was

6104
03:03:12,101 --> 03:03:12,968
born and raised in.

6105
03:03:12,968 --> 03:03:13,669
Thank you for your time today

6106
03:03:13,669 --> 03:03:17,269
And we really ask that you

6107
03:03:17,440 --> 03:03:18,207
listen and understand where all

6108
03:03:18,207 --> 03:03:18,941
of us who are taking time out

6109
03:03:18,941 --> 03:03:22,411
of our lives today and the last

6110
03:03:22,411 --> 03:03:23,178
few months have come from.

6111
03:03:23,178 --> 03:03:26,778
Thank you to Miles Noel Overall

6112
03:03:27,717 --> 03:03:28,484
Campos office for joining us

6113
03:03:28,484 --> 03:03:29,185
last week and visiting a few of

6114
03:03:29,185 --> 03:03:31,585
these egregious properties in

6115
03:03:32,688 --> 03:03:34,688
Linda Vista flight.

6116
03:03:37,660 --> 03:03:38,361
>> >> It's not new news that

6117
03:03:38,361 --> 03:03:39,280
San Diego is one of the most

6118
03:03:39,280 --> 03:03:39,762
expensive cities to live in.

6119
03:03:39,762 --> 03:03:42,231
Whether it is renting or

6120
03:03:42,231 --> 03:03:42,865
ownership, we know that many

6121
03:03:42,865 --> 03:03:43,232
residents are paycheck to

6122
03:03:43,232 --> 03:03:45,232
paycheck.

6123
03:03:46,602 --> 03:03:47,270
In fact I've been there in

6124
03:03:47,270 --> 03:03:47,703
the past and maybe you have

6125
03:03:47,703 --> 03:03:49,703
been as well.

6126
03:03:51,808 --> 03:03:52,208
We have a large homeless

6127
03:03:52,208 --> 03:03:52,909
population.

6128
03:03:52,909 --> 03:03:55,909
Some have jobs, maybe multiple

6129
03:03:57,146 --> 03:03:57,847
jobs but they fell behind on

6130
03:03:57,847 --> 03:03:58,514
their rent or mortgage and are

6131
03:03:58,514 --> 03:04:02,114
now living out of their cars

6132
03:04:02,217 --> 03:04:02,985
trying to save up enough money

6133
03:04:02,985 --> 03:04:03,418
for a first class and current

6134
03:04:03,418 --> 03:04:05,418
month's rent.

6135
03:04:07,356 --> 03:04:09,356
Next slide.

6136
03:04:11,293 --> 03:04:12,940
For a $2,500 apartment that's

6137
03:04:12,940 --> 03:04:12,428
$7,500 that they have to come

6138
03:04:12,428 --> 03:04:13,362
up with.

6139
03:04:13,362 --> 03:04:16,866
It's a lot of money especially

6140
03:04:16,866 --> 03:04:17,499
if you're making less than

6141
03:04:17,499 --> 03:04:19,899
the average medium income

6142
03:04:21,404 --> 03:04:22,372
currently in Linda Vista.

6143
03:04:22,372 --> 03:04:25,775
There are five homes for sale

6144
03:04:25,775 --> 03:04:26,142
and the last one two years 93

6145
03:04:26,142 --> 03:04:28,142
have sold.

6146
03:04:29,479 --> 03:04:30,146
Do you want to take on guess

6147
03:04:30,146 --> 03:04:30,546
how many were sold to

6148
03:04:30,546 --> 03:04:31,147
developers?

6149
03:04:31,147 --> 03:04:34,147
Here are just a handful.

6150
03:04:34,917 --> 03:04:36,917
Next slide.

6151
03:04:39,540 --> 03:04:42,540
Can you go one more?

6152
03:04:43,859 --> 03:04:44,327
>> Sorry.

6153
03:04:44,327 --> 03:04:46,129
Flip through.

6154
03:04:46,129 --> 03:04:50,329
Next go back to the last slide

6155
03:04:51,133 --> 03:04:51,601
please.

6156
03:04:51,601 --> 03:04:52,468
>> Next one.

6157
03:04:52,468 --> 03:04:55,468
Back to my other apartments

6158
03:04:56,539 --> 03:04:57,206
Once.

6159
03:04:57,206 --> 03:04:59,606
Go back One more.

6160
03:05:00,410 --> 03:05:00,877
One more.

6161
03:05:00,877 --> 03:05:02,877
>> Sorry.

6162
03:05:04,547 --> 03:05:05,281
So I did a Google search 142

6163
03:05:05,281 --> 03:05:05,648
apartments for rent in the 9211

6164
03:05:05,648 --> 03:05:07,648
zip code.

6165
03:05:09,552 --> 03:05:10,186
That was out of yesterday.

6166
03:05:10,186 --> 03:05:10,920
Apartment.Com listed sites

6167
03:05:10,920 --> 03:05:13,920
showing that these various unit

6168
03:05:15,191 --> 03:05:18,428
options of a one bedroom a

6169
03:05:18,428 --> 03:05:19,195
studio or two bedroom there are

6170
03:05:19,195 --> 03:05:20,620
230 in Linda Vista right now.

6171
03:05:20,620 --> 03:05:22,632
So don't tell me there's a

6172
03:05:22,632 --> 03:05:23,333
housing shortage.

6173
03:05:23,333 --> 03:05:23,699
There's an affordable housing

6174
03:05:23,699 --> 03:05:25,699
shortage.

6175
03:05:27,637 --> 03:05:27,971
Yes, but not a housing shortage

6176
03:05:27,971 --> 03:05:28,838
.

6177
03:05:28,838 --> 03:05:31,238
>> Out of those there's 18

6178
03:05:32,342 --> 03:05:34,742
studios 200 and 12 one bedrooms

6179
03:05:36,212 --> 03:05:38,212
and 148 to 2 bedrooms.

6180
03:05:40,490 --> 03:05:40,350
34 of those rent for 15 to

6181
03:05:40,350 --> 03:05:42,350
$2500.

6182
03:05:43,119 --> 03:05:43,819
50 for rent for 25 to 30,000.

6183
03:05:43,819 --> 03:05:46,819
Again, these are numbers right

6184
03:05:48,240 --> 03:05:48,692
off of Google.

6185
03:05:48,692 --> 03:05:49,580
We don't have a housing

6186
03:05:49,580 --> 03:05:51,580
shortage.

6187
03:05:53,530 --> 03:05:54,960
And Linda, MR..

6188
03:05:54,960 --> 03:05:54,964
We have too many.

6189
03:05:54,964 --> 03:05:58,201
If you can fast forward to a

6190
03:05:58,201 --> 03:06:00,737
couple of slides we've that's

6191
03:06:00,737 --> 03:06:03,737
where all they're listed right

6192
03:06:05,574 --> 03:06:06,475
now.

6193
03:06:06,475 --> 03:06:06,876
>> So it's not like they're all

6194
03:06:06,876 --> 03:06:07,544
in one spot.

6195
03:06:07,544 --> 03:06:07,844
They're all throughout Linda

6196
03:06:07,844 --> 03:06:09,844
Vista.

6197
03:06:10,347 --> 03:06:11,470
Next slide.

6198
03:06:11,470 --> 03:06:11,714
>> Developers are seeking out

6199
03:06:11,714 --> 03:06:14,114
by soliciting our vulnerable

6200
03:06:15,585 --> 03:06:16,218
elderly population by offering

6201
03:06:16,218 --> 03:06:16,686
them over market value for

6202
03:06:16,686 --> 03:06:18,686
their property.

6203
03:06:20,456 --> 03:06:21,124
By doing this it removes an

6204
03:06:21,124 --> 03:06:22,250
opportunity for a family to

6205
03:06:22,250 --> 03:06:24,961
purchase even if it would need

6206
03:06:24,961 --> 03:06:25,795
repairs.

6207
03:06:25,795 --> 03:06:27,731
>> An entry level home at a

6208
03:06:27,731 --> 03:06:30,731
lower price point for our

6209
03:06:32,903 --> 03:06:33,769
younger families.

6210
03:06:33,769 --> 03:06:37,369
>> They can put in some sweat

6211
03:06:37,740 --> 03:06:38,174
equity and still have a great

6212
03:06:38,174 --> 03:06:38,909
starter home.

6213
03:06:38,909 --> 03:06:39,609
However, the developers are not

6214
03:06:39,609 --> 03:06:42,609
only removing a single family

6215
03:06:43,480 --> 03:06:44,114
home that is a desirable for a

6216
03:06:44,114 --> 03:06:44,780
family by adding backyard

6217
03:06:44,780 --> 03:06:47,180
apartments but they're also

6218
03:06:48,385 --> 03:06:49,520
making the surrounding single

6219
03:06:49,520 --> 03:06:49,685
family homes less desirable

6220
03:06:49,685 --> 03:06:52,850
with fair property values.

6221
03:06:52,689 --> 03:06:53,560
The developer can continue to

6222
03:06:53,560 --> 03:06:53,790
purchase.

6223
03:06:53,790 --> 03:06:57,390
This is happening here in Linda

6224
03:06:57,527 --> 03:06:58,161
Vista up on Albion Burrows

6225
03:06:58,161 --> 03:06:58,894
where there are two single

6226
03:06:58,894 --> 03:07:01,894
homes that were purchased by

6227
03:07:02,766 --> 03:07:03,332
folks who have spent their hard

6228
03:07:03,332 --> 03:07:04,670
earned money and have

6229
03:07:04,670 --> 03:07:07,370
the American dream of being a

6230
03:07:07,370 --> 03:07:08,104
homeowner.

6231
03:07:08,104 --> 03:07:08,772
The developers purchased three

6232
03:07:08,772 --> 03:07:11,172
adjacent properties and you

6233
03:07:12,542 --> 03:07:13,243
along with the mayor and

6234
03:07:13,243 --> 03:07:13,943
the decisions you've all made

6235
03:07:13,943 --> 03:07:16,943
will cause these families and

6236
03:07:17,580 --> 03:07:18,248
others around the city where

6237
03:07:18,248 --> 03:07:21,248
the same thing is happening

6238
03:07:22,419 --> 03:07:22,919
Heartache, anguish disappoint

6239
03:07:22,919 --> 03:07:23,720
and frustration.

6240
03:07:23,720 --> 03:07:27,900
And I could go on and on.

6241
03:07:27,900 --> 03:07:27,424
Think about the lack of

6242
03:07:27,424 --> 03:07:27,991
privacy.

6243
03:07:27,991 --> 03:07:28,625
Think about trash day.

6244
03:07:28,625 --> 03:07:28,925
Everyone's got three bins,

6245
03:07:28,925 --> 03:07:29,993
right?

6246
03:07:29,993 --> 03:07:30,326
You guys just all voted on

6247
03:07:30,326 --> 03:07:32,326
this.

6248
03:07:34,931 --> 03:07:35,766
>> Three bins.

6249
03:07:35,766 --> 03:07:39,366
>> So you're going to put out

6250
03:07:40,403 --> 03:07:43,403
three bins for oh say 1618

6251
03:07:45,420 --> 03:07:45,809
units Right.

6252
03:07:45,809 --> 03:07:48,809
That's 34 bins on a street.

6253
03:07:49,179 --> 03:07:49,846
That is ridiculous.

6254
03:07:49,846 --> 03:07:52,246
Think about the parking.

6255
03:07:54,384 --> 03:07:55,510
Do you honestly think that

6256
03:07:55,510 --> 03:07:55,618
Mayor Gloria does that like

6257
03:07:55,618 --> 03:07:58,180
Mayor Gloria does that

6258
03:07:59,455 --> 03:08:00,123
the residents of these ads are

6259
03:08:00,123 --> 03:08:00,857
honestly working at home and

6260
03:08:00,857 --> 03:08:03,760
taking Ubers or bike everywhere

6261
03:08:03,760 --> 03:08:07,960
they go to the store out of

6262
03:08:08,297 --> 03:08:08,765
friends school work to

6263
03:08:08,765 --> 03:08:09,498
the laundromat.

6264
03:08:09,498 --> 03:08:10,670
How are you going to carry

6265
03:08:10,670 --> 03:08:10,400
laundry on a bicycle?

6266
03:08:10,400 --> 03:08:12,400
Come on.

6267
03:08:14,710 --> 03:08:15,205
Next slide.

6268
03:08:15,205 --> 03:08:17,874
>> So these are slides of where

6269
03:08:17,874 --> 03:08:18,709
all the 80 have been going in.

6270
03:08:18,709 --> 03:08:22,309
And these are the proposed log

6271
03:08:23,460 --> 03:08:23,547
just for Linda Vista.

6272
03:08:23,547 --> 03:08:24,140
That's a lot.

6273
03:08:24,140 --> 03:08:26,140
Next slide.

6274
03:08:32,655 --> 03:08:33,357
So this is Abby and Burrows.

6275
03:08:33,357 --> 03:08:36,957
The ones in the boxes are

6276
03:08:37,860 --> 03:08:38,328
the ones that were purchased by

6277
03:08:38,328 --> 03:08:39,280
the developers.

6278
03:08:39,280 --> 03:08:41,732
And the ones in the middle are

6279
03:08:41,732 --> 03:08:42,599
the two outstanding single

6280
03:08:42,599 --> 03:08:46,199
family homes that are going to

6281
03:08:48,137 --> 03:08:48,438
be sandwiched by 3680s.

6282
03:08:48,438 --> 03:08:48,938
Okay.

6283
03:08:48,938 --> 03:08:50,938
Next slide.

6284
03:08:53,543 --> 03:08:57,743
This is what it looks like up

6285
03:08:58,810 --> 03:08:58,849
top and down below.

6286
03:08:58,849 --> 03:09:02,152
There was no retaining wall put

6287
03:09:02,152 --> 03:09:02,920
in to hold these houses up.

6288
03:09:02,920 --> 03:09:03,620
You're going to put all these

6289
03:09:03,620 --> 03:09:06,200
houses people their belongings

6290
03:09:07,491 --> 03:09:07,791
possibly cars that are fall

6291
03:09:07,791 --> 03:09:08,658
down.

6292
03:09:08,658 --> 03:09:10,930
Then you're going to have a

6293
03:09:10,930 --> 03:09:12,930
lawsuit.

6294
03:09:15,432 --> 03:09:16,300
>> Next slide.

6295
03:09:16,300 --> 03:09:19,900
>> These are just a couple of

6296
03:09:20,737 --> 03:09:21,471
streets here in Linda Vista,

6297
03:09:21,471 --> 03:09:23,871
Westinghouse, Abby and Burrows.

6298
03:09:25,876 --> 03:09:28,512
There are six proposed the 18

6299
03:09:28,512 --> 03:09:29,213
under construction, 12 more

6300
03:09:29,213 --> 03:09:29,646
that are under construction on

6301
03:09:29,646 --> 03:09:31,646
Westinghouse.

6302
03:09:33,217 --> 03:09:36,217
Six more on Westinghouse down

6303
03:09:36,387 --> 03:09:36,820
the street and in our cul de

6304
03:09:36,820 --> 03:09:37,755
sac 16.

6305
03:09:37,755 --> 03:09:38,655
Now I get that the cul de sacs

6306
03:09:38,655 --> 03:09:41,759
are kind of off limits now

6307
03:09:41,759 --> 03:09:42,526
right?

6308
03:09:42,526 --> 03:09:43,293
But can you think about what

6309
03:09:43,293 --> 03:09:46,730
that's going to do if it were

6310
03:09:46,730 --> 03:09:49,130
on a regular street?

6311
03:09:50,401 --> 03:09:50,834
So now we're talking 58 on two

6312
03:09:50,834 --> 03:09:52,834
streets alone.

6313
03:09:55,305 --> 03:09:55,606
Next slide because I'm out of

6314
03:09:55,606 --> 03:09:56,140
time.

6315
03:09:56,140 --> 03:09:58,140
Fire, water, Sewer.

6316
03:10:00,344 --> 03:10:03,944
Multiply all of those units by

6317
03:10:04,681 --> 03:10:08,180
tubs, toilets, all of that and

6318
03:10:08,180 --> 03:10:10,180
including comment Charles.

6319
03:10:13,900 --> 03:10:15,900
Thank you, Joycelyn.

6320
03:10:16,761 --> 03:10:20,961
I'm sorry if you can come for

6321
03:10:21,365 --> 03:10:22,233
your side.

6322
03:10:22,233 --> 03:10:22,700
>> Thank you so much, Jeff.

6323
03:10:22,700 --> 03:10:24,700
Please proceed.

6324
03:10:25,536 --> 03:10:26,103
Hi guys.

6325
03:10:26,103 --> 03:10:26,870
So everybody seems to

6326
03:10:26,870 --> 03:10:29,870
acknowledge that this whole edu

6327
03:10:32,142 --> 03:10:32,443
is bad and it needs to be

6328
03:10:32,443 --> 03:10:34,443
fixed.

6329
03:10:36,790 --> 03:10:39,650
>> So why are the projects keep

6330
03:10:39,650 --> 03:10:42,500
continue to go up?

6331
03:10:44,889 --> 03:10:45,589
>> So you know it's all

6332
03:10:45,589 --> 03:10:48,589
the same parking problems far

6333
03:10:50,327 --> 03:10:51,280
away busses for the elderly and

6334
03:10:51,280 --> 03:10:54,280
people with disability get to

6335
03:10:55,660 --> 03:10:55,833
and all these things are.

6336
03:10:55,833 --> 03:10:56,700
You guys can fix it.

6337
03:10:56,700 --> 03:11:00,104
So put a pass on the new

6338
03:11:00,104 --> 03:11:00,504
applications and then fix

6339
03:11:00,504 --> 03:11:01,205
the problem.

6340
03:11:01,205 --> 03:11:01,872
I'm sure there's like laws in

6341
03:11:01,872 --> 03:11:04,541
there that you guys can use

6342
03:11:04,541 --> 03:11:05,376
just like PRESIDENT Trump.

6343
03:11:05,376 --> 03:11:06,176
He looks for laws at existing

6344
03:11:06,176 --> 03:11:09,776
and indeed he does fix things.

6345
03:11:09,847 --> 03:11:10,915
So let's just get it done, put

6346
03:11:10,915 --> 03:11:14,217
a pass on it and then do it

6347
03:11:14,217 --> 03:11:14,986
right.

6348
03:11:14,986 --> 03:11:15,286
Make San Diego great to live

6349
03:11:15,286 --> 03:11:15,653
again.

6350
03:11:15,653 --> 03:11:16,453
Thank you.

6351
03:11:16,453 --> 03:11:18,453
Thank you.

6352
03:11:21,425 --> 03:11:23,425
>> And good afternoon.

6353
03:11:26,696 --> 03:11:26,998
San Diego is not a transit rich

6354
03:11:26,998 --> 03:11:27,732
city.

6355
03:11:27,732 --> 03:11:30,500
Most people still need a car to

6356
03:11:30,500 --> 03:11:31,168
get to work to drop off kids or

6357
03:11:31,168 --> 03:11:31,903
to buy their groceries.

6358
03:11:31,903 --> 03:11:35,503
But the bonus edu program wipes

6359
03:11:35,640 --> 03:11:36,173
out parking regulations or

6360
03:11:36,173 --> 03:11:36,908
requirements even in

6361
03:11:36,908 --> 03:11:37,375
neighborhoods with little or no

6362
03:11:37,375 --> 03:11:39,375
transit access.

6363
03:11:40,811 --> 03:11:41,412
That's not progressive.

6364
03:11:41,412 --> 03:11:42,113
It's just irresponsible.

6365
03:11:42,113 --> 03:11:45,113
If you want to keep

6366
03:11:45,883 --> 03:11:46,517
neighborhoods livable and safe

6367
03:11:46,517 --> 03:11:48,517
especially outside transit

6368
03:11:49,787 --> 03:11:50,620
transit priority areas require

6369
03:11:50,620 --> 03:11:50,954
a one off street parking space

6370
03:11:50,954 --> 03:11:52,954
per edu.

6371
03:11:55,393 --> 03:11:55,826
Common sense shouldn't be

6372
03:11:55,826 --> 03:11:56,193
controversial.

6373
03:11:56,193 --> 03:11:58,193
Thank you.

6374
03:12:00,665 --> 03:12:01,332
Thank you Jeff Tutor.

6375
03:12:01,332 --> 03:12:01,999
Jeff you have several people

6376
03:12:01,999 --> 03:12:02,667
sitting in your time If they

6377
03:12:02,667 --> 03:12:04,635
can please raise their hand.

6378
03:12:04,635 --> 03:12:05,103
Maria Bird It.

6379
03:12:05,103 --> 03:12:07,103
Maria Bird it.

6380
03:12:09,139 --> 03:12:12,739
I don't see a hand raised.

6381
03:12:14,312 --> 03:12:15,790
Maria Michael Kuzma Thank you.

6382
03:12:15,790 --> 03:12:17,479
Maria Hendrix Ken Hendrix.

6383
03:12:23,821 --> 03:12:24,155
Laura Ribot David Mary Jane

6384
03:12:24,155 --> 03:12:26,155
Manders.

6385
03:12:29,593 --> 03:12:31,993
>> Thank you Michel Salinas.

6386
03:12:33,531 --> 03:12:34,399
John Alexander Eddy Meyer Halls

6387
03:12:34,399 --> 03:12:36,799
Betty Schumacher and Michele

6388
03:12:37,702 --> 03:12:39,702
Aguirre.

6389
03:12:43,740 --> 03:12:43,708
>> They'll be 12 minutes.

6390
03:12:43,708 --> 03:12:44,108
>> Please proceed.

6391
03:12:44,108 --> 03:12:44,408
We're ready.

6392
03:12:44,408 --> 03:12:45,760
Great.

6393
03:12:45,760 --> 03:12:47,476
Thank you, Council members.

6394
03:12:48,246 --> 03:12:48,946
And I also want to take five of

6395
03:12:48,946 --> 03:12:49,613
the officers who were able to

6396
03:12:49,613 --> 03:12:52,613
meet with us before today's

6397
03:12:53,318 --> 03:12:53,985
meeting.

6398
03:12:53,985 --> 03:12:54,619
We always appreciate that if

6399
03:12:54,619 --> 03:12:57,120
you go to the first slide.

6400
03:12:57,120 --> 03:12:57,755
And first of all, I think one

6401
03:12:57,755 --> 03:12:58,389
of the things to recognize

6402
03:12:58,389 --> 03:13:01,389
what's coming out of this

6403
03:13:02,360 --> 03:13:03,161
package is we focused on

6404
03:13:03,161 --> 03:13:03,894
the bonus edu part of it But

6405
03:13:03,894 --> 03:13:06,894
there's actually things in here

6406
03:13:07,650 --> 03:13:07,832
that even when there are non

6407
03:13:07,832 --> 03:13:11,432
bonus projects that are in very

6408
03:13:12,269 --> 03:13:13,137
definite benefits to developers

6409
03:13:13,137 --> 03:13:17,337
and the first is that prior to

6410
03:13:19,100 --> 03:13:19,878
today you only were allowed to

6411
03:13:19,878 --> 03:13:21,578
house an area and a j you

6412
03:13:21,578 --> 03:13:22,247
according to San Diego's code

6413
03:13:22,247 --> 03:13:25,247
we've added the allowance to

6414
03:13:25,783 --> 03:13:28,783
add a second 80 to you.

6415
03:13:29,654 --> 03:13:34,454
And as it turns out this was an

6416
03:13:34,458 --> 03:13:35,260
administrative decision by hpd

6417
03:13:35,260 --> 03:13:37,260
Housing and Community

6418
03:13:39,397 --> 03:13:40,131
Development and we're now sort

6419
03:13:40,131 --> 03:13:41,166
of memorializing that into law.

6420
03:13:41,166 --> 03:13:45,203
I think just to put that in

6421
03:13:45,203 --> 03:13:46,710
perspective.

6422
03:13:46,710 --> 03:13:46,804
So we talk about single family

6423
03:13:46,804 --> 03:13:49,804
zoning but single family zoning

6424
03:13:50,740 --> 03:13:50,508
is for units on any single

6425
03:13:50,508 --> 03:13:52,508
family parcel.

6426
03:13:54,813 --> 03:13:55,579
If you look at what the actual

6427
03:13:55,579 --> 03:13:58,579
property sizes are, you know

6428
03:13:59,651 --> 03:14:00,184
that's equivalent to our m to

6429
03:14:00,184 --> 03:14:00,652
six on smaller lots.

6430
03:14:00,652 --> 03:14:02,652
That's our m37.

6431
03:14:03,755 --> 03:14:04,455
So this idea that we're just

6432
03:14:04,455 --> 03:14:05,900
talking about single families

6433
03:14:05,900 --> 03:14:08,900
owns down you know, forbid

6434
03:14:08,425 --> 03:14:09,127
housing or something like that

6435
03:14:09,127 --> 03:14:09,694
just obviously is contradicted

6436
03:14:09,694 --> 03:14:11,694
by the circumstances.

6437
03:14:13,798 --> 03:14:14,666
The other way to look at this

6438
03:14:14,666 --> 03:14:18,266
is three units on every single

6439
03:14:18,636 --> 03:14:19,300
family parcel without

6440
03:14:19,300 --> 03:14:19,704
the bonus.

6441
03:14:19,704 --> 03:14:22,730
This is anywhere in San Diego.

6442
03:14:22,730 --> 03:14:24,473
We have over 200,000 single

6443
03:14:25,777 --> 03:14:26,377
family homes at 600,000 units

6444
03:14:26,377 --> 03:14:28,777
that are basically being

6445
03:14:30,981 --> 03:14:31,716
allowed in zone four through

6446
03:14:31,716 --> 03:14:34,716
our regulations And that's even

6447
03:14:36,870 --> 03:14:36,721
with our recent community plan

6448
03:14:36,721 --> 03:14:37,589
updates that twice as many

6449
03:14:37,589 --> 03:14:41,189
units as we have on our

6450
03:14:43,127 --> 03:14:43,728
adequate sites inventory and

6451
03:14:43,728 --> 03:14:44,495
that's three time in our

6452
03:14:44,495 --> 03:14:46,431
adequate sites in average out

6453
03:14:46,431 --> 03:14:47,198
on the 100,000 units.

6454
03:14:47,198 --> 03:14:50,198
So we're we're we're worrying

6455
03:14:51,636 --> 03:14:52,270
about creating the program that

6456
03:14:52,270 --> 03:14:54,670
already without the bonus

6457
03:14:55,340 --> 03:14:56,410
program is going creating

6458
03:14:56,410 --> 03:14:59,410
thousands of units per year.

6459
03:15:00,812 --> 03:15:01,613
And we can we can curtail this

6460
03:15:01,613 --> 03:15:05,650
program and put it in a place

6461
03:15:05,650 --> 03:15:06,518
where it makes more sense.

6462
03:15:06,518 --> 03:15:10,118
The only other thing I'll point

6463
03:15:10,221 --> 03:15:10,889
out is four units is also

6464
03:15:10,889 --> 03:15:13,889
the cutoff from the Federal

6465
03:15:15,193 --> 03:15:15,827
Housing and Urban Development

6466
03:15:15,827 --> 03:15:16,394
as a definition of single

6467
03:15:16,394 --> 03:15:18,794
family zoning as well.

6468
03:15:19,431 --> 03:15:20,980
Once you get above four units

6469
03:15:20,980 --> 03:15:22,498
you're really talking about

6470
03:15:24,101 --> 03:15:24,903
multifamily regulations that

6471
03:15:24,903 --> 03:15:28,503
kick in and that was something

6472
03:15:29,407 --> 03:15:30,108
that wasn't considered when

6473
03:15:30,108 --> 03:15:30,809
the Bonus to you program was

6474
03:15:30,809 --> 03:15:31,476
put in place and still hasn't

6475
03:15:31,476 --> 03:15:33,876
been fully absorbed in

6476
03:15:34,545 --> 03:15:35,280
the regulations today.

6477
03:15:35,280 --> 03:15:36,810
The other thing I'll just point

6478
03:15:36,810 --> 03:15:39,217
out is you know we've even

6479
03:15:39,217 --> 03:15:39,951
added this benefit to have for

6480
03:15:39,951 --> 03:15:40,352
sale to use and we'll see how

6481
03:15:40,352 --> 03:15:42,352
that works.

6482
03:15:43,955 --> 03:15:44,356
It's basically a new

6483
03:15:44,356 --> 03:15:45,220
complexity.

6484
03:15:45,220 --> 03:15:45,357
It's five pages in the code

6485
03:15:45,357 --> 03:15:47,357
update.

6486
03:15:49,194 --> 03:15:49,895
It's outside of my skill set

6487
03:15:49,895 --> 03:15:50,661
but I know this is something

6488
03:15:50,661 --> 03:15:53,661
that people will probably take

6489
03:15:54,533 --> 03:15:55,233
advantage of and it addresses

6490
03:15:55,233 --> 03:15:55,867
some concerns in a completely

6491
03:15:55,867 --> 03:15:56,168
different way as I'll note

6492
03:15:56,168 --> 03:15:58,168
later.

6493
03:15:59,710 --> 03:15:59,904
So next slide.

6494
03:15:59,904 --> 03:16:02,904
So what we're recommending is

6495
03:16:04,342 --> 03:16:07,342
staying within that concept of

6496
03:16:08,146 --> 03:16:08,747
four units on any parcel that

6497
03:16:08,747 --> 03:16:09,281
instead of having this

6498
03:16:09,281 --> 03:16:09,948
distinction based on

6499
03:16:09,948 --> 03:16:11,948
the sustainable development

6500
03:16:13,985 --> 03:16:14,686
area if you look at our

6501
03:16:14,686 --> 03:16:17,860
regulations today outside this

6502
03:16:18,457 --> 03:16:19,157
this animal development area

6503
03:16:19,157 --> 03:16:19,857
you're allowed four units And

6504
03:16:19,857 --> 03:16:22,857
basically what we're saying is

6505
03:16:23,428 --> 03:16:24,620
make those regulations

6506
03:16:24,620 --> 03:16:26,462
consistent across the city

6507
03:16:27,899 --> 03:16:28,867
where this would be different

6508
03:16:28,867 --> 03:16:33,304
is in addition to if you go to

6509
03:16:33,304 --> 03:16:36,904
the next slide in addition to

6510
03:16:37,876 --> 03:16:38,643
the constraints that the state

6511
03:16:38,643 --> 03:16:39,411
would put on it, we're saying

6512
03:16:39,411 --> 03:16:42,411
you're allowed a more flexible

6513
03:16:42,447 --> 03:16:43,810
combination of those three

6514
03:16:43,810 --> 03:16:45,810
additional accessory units

6515
03:16:47,753 --> 03:16:48,553
including having one bonus adu

6516
03:16:48,553 --> 03:16:51,553
which could either be deeded

6517
03:16:52,891 --> 03:16:53,959
restricted at 110% moderate as

6518
03:16:53,959 --> 03:16:58,960
it is today and or it could be

6519
03:16:58,960 --> 03:16:58,597
an ada compliant adu and

6520
03:16:58,597 --> 03:17:00,597
accessible to you.

6521
03:17:02,467 --> 03:17:03,235
One of the things that needs

6522
03:17:03,235 --> 03:17:06,235
letter pointed out is that

6523
03:17:06,839 --> 03:17:07,639
the accessibility requirement

6524
03:17:07,639 --> 03:17:08,373
for ada use doesn't kick in

6525
03:17:08,373 --> 03:17:12,377
until you get to the third pair

6526
03:17:12,377 --> 03:17:13,278
of ada Use under our current

6527
03:17:13,278 --> 03:17:17,683
law and this would be a way to

6528
03:17:17,683 --> 03:17:18,283
bring that allowance forward in

6529
03:17:18,283 --> 03:17:18,917
that would address a key

6530
03:17:18,917 --> 03:17:21,553
concern that was in the ac

6531
03:17:21,553 --> 03:17:21,953
letter that was sent to you on

6532
03:17:21,953 --> 03:17:23,953
the weekend.

6533
03:17:26,492 --> 03:17:27,359
If you go to the next slide.

6534
03:17:27,359 --> 03:17:31,559
>> So one of the things that we

6535
03:17:31,697 --> 03:17:32,331
look for in code is how can we

6536
03:17:32,331 --> 03:17:32,630
make development simpler?

6537
03:17:32,630 --> 03:17:34,630
Right?

6538
03:17:36,435 --> 03:17:37,136
And as we've added in fire

6539
03:17:37,136 --> 03:17:39,136
requirements excluding certain

6540
03:17:41,640 --> 03:17:42,307
zones you know, California tax

6541
03:17:42,307 --> 03:17:44,307
credit allocation Committee

6542
03:17:45,944 --> 03:17:46,645
sustainable development areas

6543
03:17:46,645 --> 03:17:48,645
and environmentally sensitive

6544
03:17:51,830 --> 03:17:51,850
lands we've ended up with and

6545
03:17:51,850 --> 03:17:52,551
this is taking the current

6546
03:17:52,551 --> 03:17:54,951
regulation proposal that's in

6547
03:17:56,421 --> 03:17:57,890
front of you today.

6548
03:17:57,890 --> 03:18:00,890
We translated that into a

6549
03:18:01,627 --> 03:18:02,328
flowchart that frankly dsd will

6550
03:18:02,328 --> 03:18:03,194
probably end up using to try

6551
03:18:03,194 --> 03:18:06,699
and figure out what to do with

6552
03:18:06,699 --> 03:18:07,699
these regulations.

6553
03:18:07,699 --> 03:18:08,435
And we just look at this and we

6554
03:18:08,435 --> 03:18:10,936
say this is way too complicated

6555
03:18:10,936 --> 03:18:11,670
If you take what we're talking

6556
03:18:11,670 --> 03:18:15,270
about, what we're saying is for

6557
03:18:15,608 --> 03:18:16,341
units under more flexible

6558
03:18:16,341 --> 03:18:18,741
conditions, apply it everywhere

6559
03:18:19,978 --> 03:18:20,846
and you get a much simpler

6560
03:18:20,846 --> 03:18:25,170
allowance for us to use in San

6561
03:18:25,170 --> 03:18:25,718
Diego just to go to the next

6562
03:18:25,718 --> 03:18:28,718
slide to emphasize this here's

6563
03:18:30,421 --> 03:18:31,123
all these decision points now

6564
03:18:31,123 --> 03:18:34,123
that have been put into

6565
03:18:34,693 --> 03:18:35,394
the code and each one of these

6566
03:18:35,394 --> 03:18:38,394
decision points is actually a

6567
03:18:38,697 --> 03:18:39,365
point of uncertainty not just

6568
03:18:39,365 --> 03:18:40,199
for the homeowner who lives

6569
03:18:40,199 --> 03:18:40,565
next to a project per se for a

6570
03:18:40,565 --> 03:18:42,565
developer.

6571
03:18:43,200 --> 03:18:43,602
And one of the things that's

6572
03:18:43,602 --> 03:18:46,200
happened is because our

6573
03:18:47,706 --> 03:18:48,473
regulations are so ephemeral

6574
03:18:48,473 --> 03:18:49,740
because a lot of these things

6575
03:18:49,740 --> 03:18:51,740
change every day

6576
03:18:53,345 --> 03:18:53,846
the opportunities zones change

6577
03:18:53,846 --> 03:18:54,613
on a yearly basis.

6578
03:18:54,613 --> 03:18:58,213
The usda changes every time San

6579
03:18:58,283 --> 03:18:58,818
Diego updated transit plan

6580
03:18:58,818 --> 03:18:59,251
because of all these

6581
03:18:59,251 --> 03:19:01,251
complexities.

6582
03:19:03,556 --> 03:19:04,256
If I want to buy land today and

6583
03:19:04,256 --> 03:19:04,990
develop two years from now, I

6584
03:19:04,990 --> 03:19:05,758
don't know whether I'm going to

6585
03:19:05,758 --> 03:19:07,760
be in the usda or meet these

6586
03:19:07,760 --> 03:19:08,494
other requirements We should

6587
03:19:08,494 --> 03:19:09,328
just get rid of that complexity

6588
03:19:09,328 --> 03:19:12,631
and go to a much simpler

6589
03:19:12,631 --> 03:19:13,132
standard.

6590
03:19:13,132 --> 03:19:13,899
Next slide.

6591
03:19:13,899 --> 03:19:17,499
And the other thing is it's

6592
03:19:18,370 --> 03:19:18,737
been pointed out in the staff

6593
03:19:18,737 --> 03:19:19,404
report that going down to four

6594
03:19:19,404 --> 03:19:21,804
units total is already

6595
03:19:23,209 --> 03:19:23,776
consistent with 98% of 82

6596
03:19:23,776 --> 03:19:26,176
projects in San Diego.

6597
03:19:28,113 --> 03:19:28,780
So this isn't going to deter

6598
03:19:28,780 --> 03:19:30,616
San Diego from continuing on

6599
03:19:30,616 --> 03:19:30,916
the path to create more to use

6600
03:19:30,916 --> 03:19:32,916
.

6601
03:19:36,589 --> 03:19:37,289
If you go to the next slide,

6602
03:19:37,289 --> 03:19:37,957
we'll go to the next slide

6603
03:19:37,957 --> 03:19:38,257
first and I'm going to come

6604
03:19:38,257 --> 03:19:39,910
back.

6605
03:19:39,910 --> 03:19:41,460
So the other part of it is

6606
03:19:41,460 --> 03:19:42,161
we're only talking today about

6607
03:19:42,161 --> 03:19:44,561
restrictions on single family

6608
03:19:46,198 --> 03:19:47,660
zones.

6609
03:19:47,660 --> 03:19:47,867
Over half of all the bonus 80

6610
03:19:47,867 --> 03:19:50,867
years have been built in

6611
03:19:51,537 --> 03:19:52,237
multifamily housing which will

6612
03:19:52,237 --> 03:19:54,637
continue under the regulations

6613
03:19:56,676 --> 03:19:57,376
if not expand because one of

6614
03:19:57,376 --> 03:20:00,879
the things that was added as a

6615
03:20:00,879 --> 03:20:01,579
matter of state law is an

6616
03:20:01,579 --> 03:20:02,180
increase in the number of ada

6617
03:20:02,180 --> 03:20:02,682
use that can be added to

6618
03:20:02,682 --> 03:20:04,682
multifamily zones.

6619
03:20:06,318 --> 03:20:06,885
So we're already in a good

6620
03:20:06,885 --> 03:20:08,885
place with multifamily

6621
03:20:09,955 --> 03:20:10,723
production and we're only going

6622
03:20:10,723 --> 03:20:14,923
to go up from there going back.

6623
03:20:15,160 --> 03:20:15,828
>> The other thing about

6624
03:20:15,828 --> 03:20:18,828
reducing the number of areas

6625
03:20:20,166 --> 03:20:20,833
that can be built on a property

6626
03:20:20,833 --> 03:20:23,833
means that the incentive now

6627
03:20:25,204 --> 03:20:25,905
will be to make bigger units so

6628
03:20:25,905 --> 03:20:26,572
what happens today is

6629
03:20:26,572 --> 03:20:30,172
the average ada use size is

6630
03:20:30,576 --> 03:20:33,576
somewhere in the range of 450

6631
03:20:34,513 --> 03:20:35,140
to 500ft and that's optimized

6632
03:20:35,140 --> 03:20:35,981
for rent return.

6633
03:20:35,981 --> 03:20:40,153
You can build a one bedroom or

6634
03:20:40,153 --> 03:20:40,887
a studio for that but you're

6635
03:20:40,887 --> 03:20:44,487
not going to get family housing

6636
03:20:45,458 --> 03:20:46,125
out of it If we reduce

6637
03:20:46,125 --> 03:20:46,759
the number of to use But you

6638
03:20:46,759 --> 03:20:49,950
still have that floor area

6639
03:20:49,950 --> 03:20:49,729
ratio to work with then it's

6640
03:20:49,729 --> 03:20:50,563
more likely a developer is

6641
03:20:50,563 --> 03:20:54,163
going to build a family sized

6642
03:20:54,633 --> 03:20:55,401
home a 2 or 3 bedroom.

6643
03:20:55,401 --> 03:20:58,401
Adu We heard earlier about

6644
03:20:59,572 --> 03:21:03,172
the idea of providing a ranch

6645
03:21:04,376 --> 03:21:05,144
and houses in.

6646
03:21:05,144 --> 03:21:05,878
You're not going to get that

6647
03:21:05,878 --> 03:21:09,381
comparable to living in a house

6648
03:21:09,381 --> 03:21:10,183
in a single family neighborhood

6649
03:21:10,183 --> 03:21:11,500
if you don't make, you know, at

6650
03:21:11,500 --> 03:21:14,500
least 1000 or so square foot

6651
03:21:15,210 --> 03:21:15,888
unit And this will also come

6652
03:21:15,888 --> 03:21:19,250
into play if we are starting to

6653
03:21:19,250 --> 03:21:19,625
condo wise to use you need to

6654
03:21:19,625 --> 03:21:20,258
have some parity between

6655
03:21:20,258 --> 03:21:23,258
the primary unit and these

6656
03:21:23,897 --> 03:21:24,731
accessory units.

6657
03:21:24,731 --> 03:21:28,801
So and then finally I just like

6658
03:21:28,801 --> 03:21:29,502
to emphasize this comes from

6659
03:21:29,502 --> 03:21:30,169
London Matter who the city

6660
03:21:30,169 --> 03:21:33,380
hires to do studies for our

6661
03:21:33,380 --> 03:21:33,739
community plan updates by no

6662
03:21:33,739 --> 03:21:36,739
means an anti housing outfit

6663
03:21:37,977 --> 03:21:38,711
but they really have emphasized

6664
03:21:38,711 --> 03:21:42,311
is that the thing we're missing

6665
03:21:43,483 --> 03:21:44,150
in our planning is the creation

6666
03:21:44,150 --> 03:21:45,840
of family size and use.

6667
03:21:45,840 --> 03:21:48,220
I mean not just here to use but

6668
03:21:48,220 --> 03:21:48,888
housing and that's what's

6669
03:21:48,888 --> 03:21:49,556
driving families out of San

6670
03:21:49,556 --> 03:21:53,156
Diego When it comes time to

6671
03:21:53,393 --> 03:21:54,600
move out of that studio

6672
03:21:54,600 --> 03:21:54,560
apartment and now there's no

6673
03:21:54,560 --> 03:21:54,961
place to move to.

6674
03:21:54,961 --> 03:21:56,961
Next slide.

6675
03:22:01,634 --> 03:22:02,134
I cover that Next slide.

6676
03:22:02,134 --> 03:22:02,501
No, no, no.

6677
03:22:02,501 --> 03:22:03,369
Go back.

6678
03:22:03,369 --> 03:22:07,339
So the last thing I would like

6679
03:22:07,339 --> 03:22:07,807
to talk about is this threat of

6680
03:22:07,807 --> 03:22:09,807
decertification.

6681
03:22:11,244 --> 03:22:11,944
One of and there was a memo

6682
03:22:11,944 --> 03:22:15,544
that came out, you know, at

6683
03:22:16,181 --> 03:22:16,850
the last minute on Friday, of

6684
03:22:16,850 --> 03:22:17,350
course being neighbors for a

6685
03:22:17,350 --> 03:22:19,350
better San Diego.

6686
03:22:20,853 --> 03:22:21,554
We spent all weekend analyzing

6687
03:22:21,554 --> 03:22:21,921
that letter, comparing it with

6688
03:22:21,921 --> 03:22:23,921
the code.

6689
03:22:25,525 --> 03:22:26,226
And one of the things that I

6690
03:22:26,226 --> 03:22:29,826
think is important to look at

6691
03:22:30,960 --> 03:22:30,797
is what were the conditions of

6692
03:22:30,797 --> 03:22:31,497
that letter and what were

6693
03:22:31,497 --> 03:22:32,132
the concerns that they had and

6694
03:22:32,132 --> 03:22:34,532
were they addressed Right.

6695
03:22:35,435 --> 03:22:39,350
And so the primary concern that

6696
03:22:39,305 --> 03:22:39,938
I had was that the exclusion of

6697
03:22:39,938 --> 03:22:40,306
the zones are greater than

6698
03:22:40,306 --> 03:22:42,306
10,000ft.

6699
03:22:44,744 --> 03:22:45,412
You know, I think in a short

6700
03:22:45,412 --> 03:22:47,812
amount of time development

6701
03:22:49,683 --> 03:22:50,350
service I mean sorry

6702
03:22:50,350 --> 03:22:51,510
the planning department was

6703
03:22:51,510 --> 03:22:54,721
able to look at that and they

6704
03:22:54,721 --> 03:22:55,621
have proposed an amendment to

6705
03:22:55,621 --> 03:22:59,221
that to allow those zones or

6706
03:22:59,958 --> 03:23:00,659
previously excluded in high and

6707
03:23:00,659 --> 03:23:03,590
highest opportunity zones that

6708
03:23:04,698 --> 03:23:05,398
actually provides a certain

6709
03:23:05,398 --> 03:23:07,798
benefit that wasn't there

6710
03:23:10,102 --> 03:23:10,837
before And it addresses

6711
03:23:10,837 --> 03:23:14,437
the primary concern that we had

6712
03:23:15,410 --> 03:23:15,642
in this letter and and I think

6713
03:23:15,642 --> 03:23:16,420
sort of set that aside

6714
03:23:16,420 --> 03:23:18,420
completely.

6715
03:23:18,878 --> 03:23:19,578
But more importantly

6716
03:23:19,578 --> 03:23:22,578
the commitment that San Diego

6717
03:23:24,284 --> 03:23:24,984
made And it's housing element

6718
03:23:24,984 --> 03:23:27,384
certification was to build 40

6719
03:23:29,689 --> 03:23:29,989
deed restricted areas per year.

6720
03:23:29,989 --> 03:23:30,757
Okay.

6721
03:23:30,757 --> 03:23:34,260
We in the four years we've had

6722
03:23:34,260 --> 03:23:35,600
this program in has risen year

6723
03:23:35,600 --> 03:23:35,728
by year So the average is below

6724
03:23:35,728 --> 03:23:38,128
what we're currently doing.

6725
03:23:39,633 --> 03:23:42,330
We've built up 364 affordable

6726
03:23:44,771 --> 03:23:45,472
to use with this program this

6727
03:23:45,472 --> 03:23:48,472
92 a year that's over twice

6728
03:23:49,342 --> 03:23:49,643
what our commitment to exceed

6729
03:23:49,643 --> 03:23:50,343
was.

6730
03:23:50,343 --> 03:23:52,743
Furthermore we're meeting that

6731
03:23:53,546 --> 03:23:54,281
commitment just with

6732
03:23:54,281 --> 03:23:56,281
multifamily affordable 80 years

6733
03:23:59,519 --> 03:24:00,187
We could have no single family

6734
03:24:00,187 --> 03:24:00,753
affordable way to use and we

6735
03:24:00,753 --> 03:24:03,153
would still be meeting

6736
03:24:03,923 --> 03:24:04,558
the commitment we made to hpd

6737
03:24:04,558 --> 03:24:06,958
under our housing element.

6738
03:24:08,929 --> 03:24:09,496
So this threat of

6739
03:24:09,496 --> 03:24:09,862
decertification is not

6740
03:24:09,862 --> 03:24:11,862
credible.

6741
03:24:14,167 --> 03:24:14,934
Of course when we send you a

6742
03:24:14,934 --> 03:24:15,635
letter and says if it was found

6743
03:24:15,635 --> 03:24:16,200
we would, you know, go through

6744
03:24:16,200 --> 03:24:18,200
all this.

6745
03:24:18,805 --> 03:24:19,473
But that's that's

6746
03:24:19,473 --> 03:24:20,106
the boilerplate statement of

6747
03:24:20,106 --> 03:24:22,506
consequence, not a real

6748
03:24:24,377 --> 03:24:24,944
assertion and that the law has

6749
03:24:24,944 --> 03:24:27,344
been violated or that

6750
03:24:28,849 --> 03:24:31,849
the housing element is not

6751
03:24:32,886 --> 03:24:33,619
being applied to Furthermore

6752
03:24:33,619 --> 03:24:36,619
larger units is a particular

6753
03:24:38,240 --> 03:24:38,725
concern about overcrowding

6754
03:24:38,725 --> 03:24:39,393
The building accessible to use

6755
03:24:39,393 --> 03:24:42,629
is also a thing that was

6756
03:24:42,629 --> 03:24:43,363
addressed in our proposal I

6757
03:24:43,363 --> 03:24:43,997
think makes us better not worse

6758
03:24:43,997 --> 03:24:46,997
than where we were before.

6759
03:24:52,906 --> 03:24:53,607
>> Thank you John Moll If I can

6760
03:24:53,607 --> 03:24:54,274
have the following individuals

6761
03:24:54,274 --> 03:24:55,800
please come up to the yellow

6762
03:24:55,800 --> 03:24:56,843
reserved seats and John you can

6763
03:24:56,843 --> 03:24:57,644
come up to the microphone.

6764
03:24:57,644 --> 03:25:00,644
John Bonnie Kutch, Paul Kruger.

6765
03:25:01,648 --> 03:25:02,416
Merv Thompson.

6766
03:25:02,416 --> 03:25:04,816
Maria Conrad Charlie Our

6767
03:25:06,853 --> 03:25:07,187
Christopher Public and Gail

6768
03:25:07,187 --> 03:25:07,854
Vermont.

6769
03:25:07,854 --> 03:25:11,454
If you can all please come

6770
03:25:11,792 --> 03:25:12,593
forward to the yellow reserved

6771
03:25:12,593 --> 03:25:13,360
seats And John, you MAY come

6772
03:25:13,360 --> 03:25:16,360
forward Ali excuse me on

6773
03:25:16,763 --> 03:25:20,363
the last muesli is that Yeah

6774
03:25:21,201 --> 03:25:21,901
that's what it is really?

6775
03:25:21,901 --> 03:25:22,501
>> Oh, Mulet My apologies.

6776
03:25:22,501 --> 03:25:22,970
Good afternoon everyone.

6777
03:25:22,970 --> 03:25:25,370
My name is John.

6778
03:25:26,506 --> 03:25:27,207
You and I 20 years ago moved

6779
03:25:27,207 --> 03:25:30,777
into a unique pocket in Linda

6780
03:25:30,777 --> 03:25:31,578
Vista because of the diversity

6781
03:25:31,578 --> 03:25:32,145
and the sense of community as a

6782
03:25:32,145 --> 03:25:32,579
single family dwelling

6783
03:25:32,579 --> 03:25:34,579
neighborhood.

6784
03:25:35,515 --> 03:25:36,182
I was looking for all of

6785
03:25:36,182 --> 03:25:36,650
the unique things that that

6786
03:25:36,650 --> 03:25:38,650
would offer it.

6787
03:25:40,287 --> 03:25:40,988
Well, I'm the byproduct of

6788
03:25:40,988 --> 03:25:44,910
Pamela who did a really great

6789
03:25:44,910 --> 03:25:44,858
job presenting her story of

6790
03:25:44,858 --> 03:25:45,559
6821 new ball court which is

6791
03:25:45,559 --> 03:25:48,559
going to have 1082 units which

6792
03:25:49,630 --> 03:25:50,397
my backyard will be adjacent to

6793
03:25:50,397 --> 03:25:51,980
it and I'll have three tower

6794
03:25:51,980 --> 03:25:53,467
three two stories looking back

6795
03:25:53,467 --> 03:25:54,100
into my backyard eliminating

6796
03:25:54,100 --> 03:25:54,768
all the privacy I've had.

6797
03:25:54,768 --> 03:25:56,768
>> Everybody's talked about

6798
03:25:58,705 --> 03:25:59,373
the key points on the cul de

6799
03:25:59,373 --> 03:26:02,373
sac, the egress, the garbage

6800
03:26:03,343 --> 03:26:04,430
collection and then also

6801
03:26:04,430 --> 03:26:04,744
the parking which is going to

6802
03:26:04,744 --> 03:26:07,380
be just so much more complex

6803
03:26:07,380 --> 03:26:08,248
especially they're not thinking

6804
03:26:08,248 --> 03:26:08,949
about we have a lot of delivery

6805
03:26:08,949 --> 03:26:11,349
drivers Amazon DoorDash coming

6806
03:26:12,619 --> 03:26:13,320
in with lots of kids playing.

6807
03:26:13,320 --> 03:26:13,753
They speed through our

6808
03:26:13,753 --> 03:26:15,753
neighborhood.

6809
03:26:17,591 --> 03:26:18,258
It's creating another dynamic

6810
03:26:18,258 --> 03:26:18,559
that people aren't thinking

6811
03:26:18,559 --> 03:26:19,360
about.

6812
03:26:19,360 --> 03:26:23,330
I ask you all please, we're not

6813
03:26:23,330 --> 03:26:23,998
against the development but

6814
03:26:23,998 --> 03:26:24,665
let's please take the closet

6815
03:26:24,665 --> 03:26:27,665
with Christian Spicer out of

6816
03:26:28,201 --> 03:26:28,936
Linda MR. Neighborhood by

6817
03:26:28,936 --> 03:26:29,369
relaxing his comment giving him

6818
03:26:29,369 --> 03:26:31,369
a money grab.

6819
03:26:33,440 --> 03:26:34,208
>> Next is Bonnie.

6820
03:26:34,208 --> 03:26:34,908
>> Bonnie you have people

6821
03:26:34,908 --> 03:26:35,509
setting your time if they can

6822
03:26:35,509 --> 03:26:37,477
please raise their hand.

6823
03:26:37,477 --> 03:26:40,477
Lisa Clark, Kevin Gibson, Karen

6824
03:26:42,483 --> 03:26:43,250
Sellers.

6825
03:26:43,250 --> 03:26:43,984
And then you have one more

6826
03:26:43,984 --> 03:26:44,518
person that seated you time but

6827
03:26:44,518 --> 03:26:47,154
did not put a name.

6828
03:26:47,154 --> 03:26:48,210
Do you know who that is?

6829
03:26:48,210 --> 03:26:51,621
No, there's no name on this.

6830
03:26:51,692 --> 03:26:55,461
That's why I can't guess so no.

6831
03:26:55,461 --> 03:26:55,929
Okay then it's four minutes.

6832
03:26:55,929 --> 03:26:56,230
Please proceed.

6833
03:26:56,230 --> 03:26:56,696
Okay.

6834
03:26:56,696 --> 03:26:58,696
Good afternoon.

6835
03:26:59,633 --> 03:27:00,200
Council members.

6836
03:27:00,200 --> 03:27:00,968
I'm Bonnie Koch.

6837
03:27:00,968 --> 03:27:04,568
I am the founding member of

6838
03:27:04,871 --> 03:27:05,573
U.S. Peeps and a member of

6839
03:27:05,573 --> 03:27:07,973
the Coordinating committee for

6840
03:27:09,342 --> 03:27:09,710
the new San Diego community

6841
03:27:09,710 --> 03:27:10,377
Coalition.

6842
03:27:10,377 --> 03:27:12,377
>> My background includes 40

6843
03:27:14,482 --> 03:27:15,249
years in the building industry

6844
03:27:15,249 --> 03:27:17,649
working with Party Corbridge,

6845
03:27:18,853 --> 03:27:19,419
Sudbury Properties and many

6846
03:27:19,419 --> 03:27:21,419
reputable developers.

6847
03:27:23,858 --> 03:27:24,557
>> As you MAY know, the San

6848
03:27:24,557 --> 03:27:25,258
Diego Community Coalition now

6849
03:27:25,258 --> 03:27:27,258
includes 26 communities across

6850
03:27:29,230 --> 03:27:29,864
San Diego that have come

6851
03:27:29,864 --> 03:27:32,264
together mostly because of

6852
03:27:33,700 --> 03:27:34,334
the devastating bonus edu

6853
03:27:34,334 --> 03:27:34,934
program which has allowed

6854
03:27:34,934 --> 03:27:36,934
unrestricted apartments

6855
03:27:37,737 --> 03:27:38,305
buildings to be built in

6856
03:27:38,305 --> 03:27:39,106
backyards everywhere.

6857
03:27:39,106 --> 03:27:43,306
It is the most out of control

6858
03:27:43,343 --> 03:27:43,911
asinine housing program a city

6859
03:27:43,911 --> 03:27:45,911
could possibly devise.

6860
03:27:47,981 --> 03:27:48,782
>> This being a hearing I am

6861
03:27:48,782 --> 03:27:52,382
asking that you listen and hear

6862
03:27:53,387 --> 03:27:54,200
us Council members can appeal

6863
03:27:54,200 --> 03:27:56,420
Foster Campbell and often

6864
03:27:57,591 --> 03:27:57,892
Wilbert do and I thank you for

6865
03:27:57,892 --> 03:27:58,658
that.

6866
03:27:58,658 --> 03:28:02,258
So please listen to the advice

6867
03:28:02,630 --> 03:28:03,297
of experts like Neighbors for a

6868
03:28:03,297 --> 03:28:06,897
Better San Diego and the cpc

6869
03:28:07,368 --> 03:28:07,968
whose members have spent years

6870
03:28:07,968 --> 03:28:08,301
analyzing the adu bonus

6871
03:28:08,301 --> 03:28:10,301
program.

6872
03:28:11,872 --> 03:28:12,473
The Planning department has a

6873
03:28:12,473 --> 03:28:15,473
lot to learn from them.

6874
03:28:16,710 --> 03:28:17,378
You already know they are

6875
03:28:17,378 --> 03:28:19,378
providing affordable homes.

6876
03:28:21,615 --> 03:28:22,316
>> Average rents are about 700

6877
03:28:22,316 --> 03:28:24,716
above market rate apartments.

6878
03:28:25,686 --> 03:28:26,152
They are too small for two

6879
03:28:26,152 --> 03:28:26,821
house families.

6880
03:28:26,821 --> 03:28:29,221
Building more isn't bringing

6881
03:28:29,623 --> 03:28:30,325
rents down.

6882
03:28:30,325 --> 03:28:30,958
They're violating Santiago's

6883
03:28:30,958 --> 03:28:34,558
fire codes and the need to

6884
03:28:34,661 --> 03:28:35,630
protect evacuation corridors.

6885
03:28:35,630 --> 03:28:38,630
And they're not paying for

6886
03:28:39,967 --> 03:28:40,401
the infrastructure needed to

6887
03:28:40,401 --> 03:28:41,135
support them.

6888
03:28:41,135 --> 03:28:44,735
I should probably add most of

6889
03:28:45,405 --> 03:28:46,173
them are guilty And because

6890
03:28:46,173 --> 03:28:48,942
they're causing blight in our

6891
03:28:48,942 --> 03:28:49,743
neighborhoods.

6892
03:28:49,743 --> 03:28:52,143
>> In South University City

6893
03:28:53,113 --> 03:28:53,780
we've just learned about two

6894
03:28:53,780 --> 03:28:54,515
planned nine unit bonus 80

6895
03:28:54,515 --> 03:28:56,915
property projects on properties

6896
03:28:58,252 --> 03:28:58,920
that abut one another.

6897
03:28:58,920 --> 03:29:00,920
That means 18 units

6898
03:29:03,190 --> 03:29:03,958
concentrated together right

6899
03:29:03,958 --> 03:29:06,958
next door to Curie Elementary

6900
03:29:07,761 --> 03:29:08,696
School in a very high risk fire

6901
03:29:08,696 --> 03:29:12,667
zone with one of them in a cul

6902
03:29:12,667 --> 03:29:13,660
de sac full of families with

6903
03:29:13,660 --> 03:29:13,868
young kids.

6904
03:29:13,868 --> 03:29:16,268
>> It's a disaster in

6905
03:29:17,538 --> 03:29:18,506
the making.

6906
03:29:18,506 --> 03:29:20,975
>> COUNCILMAN Lee, you are a

6907
03:29:20,975 --> 03:29:21,676
homeowner and you have two

6908
03:29:21,676 --> 03:29:24,676
children with that now concern

6909
03:29:25,879 --> 03:29:26,714
you I would think.

6910
03:29:26,714 --> 03:29:27,448
>> Now the Planning Department

6911
03:29:27,448 --> 03:29:30,852
has then made some revisions to

6912
03:29:30,852 --> 03:29:31,585
the bonus edu program but they

6913
03:29:31,585 --> 03:29:34,585
haven't gone nearly far enough.

6914
03:29:36,457 --> 03:29:37,124
>> So we're asking you to allow

6915
03:29:37,124 --> 03:29:39,894
one bonus Edu did restricted

6916
03:29:39,894 --> 03:29:40,660
free income for each lot in

6917
03:29:40,660 --> 03:29:41,362
single family zones and no more

6918
03:29:41,362 --> 03:29:44,362
than four units total which

6919
03:29:45,400 --> 03:29:46,200
would include the main house

6920
03:29:46,200 --> 03:29:49,200
for is fair everywhere require

6921
03:29:50,905 --> 03:29:51,539
unsafe parking for all to use

6922
03:29:51,539 --> 03:29:52,206
farther than one half mile

6923
03:29:52,206 --> 03:29:54,606
walking distance from public

6924
03:29:55,677 --> 03:29:58,770
transit place 16 to 18 foot

6925
03:30:00,147 --> 03:30:00,915
height limits on detached two

6926
03:30:00,915 --> 03:30:04,515
storey adus use in line with

6927
03:30:05,353 --> 03:30:06,530
state law prohibit bonus 80 use

6928
03:30:06,530 --> 03:30:09,357
from being built in very high

6929
03:30:09,357 --> 03:30:10,324
fire hazard severity zones or

6930
03:30:10,324 --> 03:30:13,828
cul de sacs Limit the square

6931
03:30:13,828 --> 03:30:14,529
footage to 8000ft for

6932
03:30:14,529 --> 03:30:15,229
calculating the number of adus

6933
03:30:15,229 --> 03:30:17,932
allowed regardless of the size

6934
03:30:17,932 --> 03:30:18,633
of the lot.

6935
03:30:18,633 --> 03:30:21,633
And mandate minimum four foot

6936
03:30:22,503 --> 03:30:22,903
setbacks from neighboring

6937
03:30:22,903 --> 03:30:23,604
properties.

6938
03:30:23,604 --> 03:30:26,604
San Diego has suffered enough

6939
03:30:28,276 --> 03:30:28,977
under Mayor Gloria and its

6940
03:30:28,977 --> 03:30:29,277
mismanagement of a once great

6941
03:30:29,277 --> 03:30:31,277
city.

6942
03:30:32,780 --> 03:30:33,514
>> Wasteful spending in

6943
03:30:33,514 --> 03:30:34,148
competent real estate dealings,

6944
03:30:34,148 --> 03:30:36,148
horrific road conditions,

6945
03:30:37,285 --> 03:30:38,190
expensive and little used bike

6946
03:30:38,190 --> 03:30:41,190
lanes trash collection bait and

6947
03:30:42,557 --> 03:30:43,191
switch switch You're complicity

6948
03:30:43,191 --> 03:30:46,191
with his bonus adu program

6949
03:30:47,600 --> 03:30:47,661
makes you culpable for San

6950
03:30:47,661 --> 03:30:49,661
Diego's continued ruin.

6951
03:30:51,432 --> 03:30:52,133
My question to you is is this

6952
03:30:52,133 --> 03:30:55,733
really the sort of legacy you

6953
03:30:56,471 --> 03:30:57,380
want to leave the integrity,

6954
03:30:57,380 --> 03:30:57,704
decency and honesty of

6955
03:30:57,704 --> 03:30:58,380
the people in elected office

6956
03:30:58,380 --> 03:31:00,380
matter?

6957
03:31:02,110 --> 03:31:02,643
>> Thank you for that

6958
03:31:02,643 --> 03:31:03,344
concluding comment.

6959
03:31:03,344 --> 03:31:05,744
>> Paul Krueger The following

6960
03:31:06,214 --> 03:31:06,514
people are sitting in your

6961
03:31:06,514 --> 03:31:07,181
time.

6962
03:31:07,181 --> 03:31:07,549
David Schwartz Please raise

6963
03:31:07,549 --> 03:31:09,549
your hand.

6964
03:31:10,819 --> 03:31:12,819
Thank you Jacob.

6965
03:31:15,123 --> 03:31:19,923
R o t I think it is Jacob.

6966
03:31:20,128 --> 03:31:22,528
Jay Yeah, that's Jacob.

6967
03:31:25,299 --> 03:31:25,699
Jacob Cindy Jurkovich.

6968
03:31:25,699 --> 03:31:27,699
>> Corey.

6969
03:31:27,835 --> 03:31:29,835
Corey Juarez.

6970
03:31:33,407 --> 03:31:33,708
Corey Going twice.

6971
03:31:33,708 --> 03:31:34,208
Corey.

6972
03:31:34,208 --> 03:31:36,208
Courtney Boatman.

6973
03:31:38,145 --> 03:31:38,613
Lisa Mortenson.

6974
03:31:38,613 --> 03:31:39,130
Laura Hanson.

6975
03:31:39,130 --> 03:31:41,130
She's gone.

6976
03:31:43,618 --> 03:31:43,918
Ron Anderson.

6977
03:31:43,918 --> 03:31:44,486
Gone.

6978
03:31:44,486 --> 03:31:45,520
Don Anderson Gone.

6979
03:31:45,520 --> 03:31:47,520
Ramona.

6980
03:31:50,525 --> 03:31:51,920
Greg Adams.

6981
03:31:51,920 --> 03:31:53,920
Kathy Adams.

6982
03:31:56,630 --> 03:31:56,564
Karen Ebinger.

6983
03:31:56,564 --> 03:31:58,564
And Roger Kaplan.

6984
03:32:00,769 --> 03:32:01,690
Roger Kaplan.

6985
03:32:01,690 --> 03:32:01,502
No.

6986
03:32:01,502 --> 03:32:03,502
Roger Kaplan.

6987
03:32:05,606 --> 03:32:05,940
We just can't really quite nine

6988
03:32:05,940 --> 03:32:07,940
minutes.

6989
03:32:09,878 --> 03:32:10,711
Please proceed.

6990
03:32:10,711 --> 03:32:11,513
Thank you very much and thank

6991
03:32:11,513 --> 03:32:15,160
you for your attention to this

6992
03:32:15,160 --> 03:32:15,917
important issue.

6993
03:32:15,917 --> 03:32:16,818
I want to recap some things to

6994
03:32:16,818 --> 03:32:17,118
begin with in case I run out of

6995
03:32:17,118 --> 03:32:19,118
time.

6996
03:32:19,654 --> 03:32:23,254
Number one, the message is loud

6997
03:32:24,292 --> 03:32:24,993
and clear, sensible and what we

6998
03:32:24,993 --> 03:32:25,693
need to do for units is

6999
03:32:25,693 --> 03:32:29,293
the maximum we should allow on

7000
03:32:29,364 --> 03:32:30,980
single family lots.

7001
03:32:30,980 --> 03:32:33,980
You've heard it emotionally and

7002
03:32:34,269 --> 03:32:34,970
you've heard it in really,

7003
03:32:34,970 --> 03:32:37,970
really impressive detail by my

7004
03:32:38,540 --> 03:32:39,441
colleagues Jeff Utah and Dana,

7005
03:32:39,441 --> 03:32:42,441
given that they have spent

7006
03:32:43,879 --> 03:32:44,746
years studying this code and

7007
03:32:44,746 --> 03:32:48,500
they know it inside and out and

7008
03:32:48,500 --> 03:32:48,750
they know what's wrong and they

7009
03:32:48,750 --> 03:32:49,518
know what needs to be changed

7010
03:32:49,518 --> 03:32:52,518
And it's really important that

7011
03:32:53,121 --> 03:32:56,121
you please pay attention to

7012
03:32:57,926 --> 03:32:58,793
what they're saying.

7013
03:32:58,793 --> 03:33:01,793
Number two, please let's stop

7014
03:33:02,297 --> 03:33:02,831
with this charade about

7015
03:33:02,831 --> 03:33:04,831
affordable housing.

7016
03:33:07,102 --> 03:33:07,802
I'm not going to belabor

7017
03:33:07,802 --> 03:33:10,802
the point because these people

7018
03:33:12,807 --> 03:33:17,345
it is it is in insanity for any

7019
03:33:17,345 --> 03:33:17,979
of you to fall for the idea

7020
03:33:17,979 --> 03:33:18,313
that this is affordable

7021
03:33:18,313 --> 03:33:18,679
housing.

7022
03:33:18,679 --> 03:33:20,679
It is not.

7023
03:33:22,684 --> 03:33:23,384
Also it's so important to

7024
03:33:23,384 --> 03:33:26,384
understand is not being built

7025
03:33:27,822 --> 03:33:28,123
in high or very high resource

7026
03:33:28,123 --> 03:33:30,123
areas.

7027
03:33:32,828 --> 03:33:33,528
These people here today are

7028
03:33:33,528 --> 03:33:36,528
from Barrio Logan Troilus and

7029
03:33:38,330 --> 03:33:38,733
Canto City Heights Linda Vista,

7030
03:33:38,733 --> 03:33:39,500
Sierra mesa, South Claremont.

7031
03:33:39,500 --> 03:33:42,237
Let me ask how many people are

7032
03:33:42,237 --> 03:33:42,937
here today because their lives

7033
03:33:42,937 --> 03:33:45,337
have been negatively impacted

7034
03:33:51,580 --> 03:33:51,947
by 12 1517 Unit 37 Unit 750

7035
03:33:51,947 --> 03:33:53,947
Unit adus.

7036
03:33:56,685 --> 03:33:57,185
How many are you?

7037
03:33:57,185 --> 03:33:58,120
Thank you.

7038
03:33:58,120 --> 03:34:01,623
Sit down because that wasn't my

7039
03:34:01,623 --> 03:34:02,491
punch line.

7040
03:34:02,491 --> 03:34:05,794
My punch line is how many of

7041
03:34:05,794 --> 03:34:06,694
you are from Carmel Valley?

7042
03:34:06,694 --> 03:34:07,950
How many of you are from Del

7043
03:34:07,950 --> 03:34:07,996
Mar mesa?

7044
03:34:07,996 --> 03:34:11,990
How many of you are from

7045
03:34:11,990 --> 03:34:11,967
Fairbanks Ranch Country Club?

7046
03:34:11,967 --> 03:34:12,334
How many of you are from Rancho

7047
03:34:12,334 --> 03:34:14,334
Bernardo?

7048
03:34:16,380 --> 03:34:16,738
Scripps Ranch?

7049
03:34:16,738 --> 03:34:17,505
>> Nobody Because they won't

7050
03:34:17,505 --> 03:34:20,505
build there because they cannot

7051
03:34:21,577 --> 03:34:21,943
number one buy a lot for

7052
03:34:21,943 --> 03:34:23,943
$750,000.

7053
03:34:26,715 --> 03:34:29,715
And number two, because they're

7054
03:34:30,352 --> 03:34:31,153
outside of the usda which which

7055
03:34:31,153 --> 03:34:31,853
I cannot take an opportunity I

7056
03:34:31,853 --> 03:34:34,853
cannot MISS An opportunity to

7057
03:34:35,724 --> 03:34:36,492
tell you the frustration that

7058
03:34:36,492 --> 03:34:40,496
people feel and that I know you

7059
03:34:40,496 --> 03:34:41,263
are told about about this myth

7060
03:34:41,263 --> 03:34:41,963
that we don't have to put

7061
03:34:41,963 --> 03:34:44,963
parking in because people are

7062
03:34:49,104 --> 03:34:49,772
going to ride the bus.

7063
03:34:49,772 --> 03:34:50,606
You know what we need?

7064
03:34:50,606 --> 03:34:53,275
What we need is for you to

7065
03:34:53,275 --> 03:34:53,976
spare us the insult of saying

7066
03:34:53,976 --> 03:34:57,576
that people are going to ride

7067
03:34:58,280 --> 03:34:59,800
the bus and that they don't

7068
03:34:59,800 --> 03:35:03,218
need a car and just be honest

7069
03:35:03,218 --> 03:35:03,952
and say for us it's more

7070
03:35:03,952 --> 03:35:04,687
important that we build housing

7071
03:35:04,687 --> 03:35:08,390
and that you are going to have

7072
03:35:08,390 --> 03:35:08,691
to live without a parking

7073
03:35:08,691 --> 03:35:09,358
place.

7074
03:35:09,358 --> 03:35:10,225
Personally I don't have that

7075
03:35:10,225 --> 03:35:13,825
big an issue with that because

7076
03:35:14,129 --> 03:35:14,897
I'm one of the lucky ones that

7077
03:35:14,897 --> 03:35:15,363
owns a home that has a garage

7078
03:35:15,363 --> 03:35:17,363
and a driveway.

7079
03:35:18,167 --> 03:35:19,100
And the fact is that the people

7080
03:35:19,100 --> 03:35:22,601
who are penalized most by this

7081
03:35:23,639 --> 03:35:27,839
in assistance on a myth of use

7082
03:35:28,643 --> 03:35:29,611
of transit at 3% and a bike

7083
03:35:29,611 --> 03:35:33,811
lane that I go into on Fairmont

7084
03:35:33,949 --> 03:35:34,917
have not seen one bike on this

7085
03:35:34,917 --> 03:35:38,787
week are those who are hurt are

7086
03:35:38,787 --> 03:35:39,488
working people who rent and who

7087
03:35:39,488 --> 03:35:43,880
have trucks and vans that they

7088
03:35:43,825 --> 03:35:44,126
put on streets that are open to

7089
03:35:44,126 --> 03:35:44,826
theft.

7090
03:35:44,826 --> 03:35:47,730
Big families that have kids to

7091
03:35:47,730 --> 03:35:48,531
take to school.

7092
03:35:48,531 --> 03:35:48,831
So let's just be honest about

7093
03:35:48,831 --> 03:35:50,831
that.

7094
03:35:52,868 --> 03:35:53,569
Let me give just a little bit

7095
03:35:53,569 --> 03:35:54,336
of background about how we got

7096
03:35:54,336 --> 03:35:57,336
here because I think it's

7097
03:35:58,207 --> 03:35:58,874
important for everyone to know.

7098
03:35:58,874 --> 03:35:59,207
I cannot thank you people

7099
03:35:59,207 --> 03:36:01,207
enough.

7100
03:36:02,310 --> 03:36:02,878
You know, four years ago there

7101
03:36:02,878 --> 03:36:05,878
were five of us here.

7102
03:36:06,282 --> 03:36:08,682
There were five people.

7103
03:36:09,652 --> 03:36:10,452
Four years ago when a six unit

7104
03:36:10,452 --> 03:36:11,186
adu project was put in in my

7105
03:36:11,186 --> 03:36:13,586
neighborhood which doesn't have

7106
03:36:15,191 --> 03:36:15,958
a park, has a library two two

7107
03:36:15,958 --> 03:36:18,958
miles away, has some of

7108
03:36:19,928 --> 03:36:20,296
the very worst schools in

7109
03:36:20,296 --> 03:36:20,996
the city.

7110
03:36:20,996 --> 03:36:23,966
We asked questions about what

7111
03:36:23,966 --> 03:36:24,733
was happening and nobody knew

7112
03:36:24,733 --> 03:36:25,434
because a bonus edu program was

7113
03:36:25,434 --> 03:36:28,434
passed during the pandemic and

7114
03:36:28,938 --> 03:36:29,271
nobody had any idea about what

7115
03:36:29,271 --> 03:36:31,271
it was.

7116
03:36:33,943 --> 03:36:34,543
>> We learned over time about

7117
03:36:34,543 --> 03:36:35,244
what we're seeing today.

7118
03:36:35,244 --> 03:36:38,844
But the word didn't spread and

7119
03:36:39,281 --> 03:36:39,949
we were dismissed on the most

7120
03:36:39,949 --> 03:36:42,349
scurrilous terms for raising

7121
03:36:43,352 --> 03:36:44,530
the very issues that these

7122
03:36:44,530 --> 03:36:47,530
people here are raising today.

7123
03:36:47,823 --> 03:36:50,823
Three years ago the mayor's

7124
03:36:52,428 --> 03:36:53,162
press secretary continually

7125
03:36:53,162 --> 03:36:56,162
posted on then called Twitter

7126
03:36:56,832 --> 03:36:57,433
that that our bonus edu program

7127
03:36:57,433 --> 03:37:00,433
was a success because it

7128
03:37:01,671 --> 03:37:02,371
allowed gentle development by

7129
03:37:02,371 --> 03:37:04,771
homeowners creating low income

7130
03:37:06,876 --> 03:37:09,876
housing in high resource areas.

7131
03:37:10,946 --> 03:37:11,547
It took me probably seven

7132
03:37:11,547 --> 03:37:12,314
rounds of tweeting back

7133
03:37:12,314 --> 03:37:15,914
the reality for Rachel Lang to

7134
03:37:16,184 --> 03:37:17,190
abandon that.

7135
03:37:17,190 --> 03:37:20,723
That's not what it is and maybe

7136
03:37:20,723 --> 03:37:21,423
that's what they thought it was

7137
03:37:21,423 --> 03:37:25,230
but it has never been that.

7138
03:37:25,928 --> 03:37:26,662
>> Again, the speaker know you

7139
03:37:26,662 --> 03:37:27,296
guys have been great listening.

7140
03:37:27,296 --> 03:37:29,696
>> I really appreciate it.

7141
03:37:31,000 --> 03:37:31,734
And I want to say COUNCILMAN

7142
03:37:31,734 --> 03:37:34,734
Foster, I cannot thank you

7143
03:37:36,172 --> 03:37:37,390
enough for being here today and

7144
03:37:37,390 --> 03:37:40,443
for taking ball on this issue

7145
03:37:40,443 --> 03:37:41,177
because the fact is that if it

7146
03:37:41,177 --> 03:37:44,177
wasn't for these Encanto people

7147
03:37:45,481 --> 03:37:46,181
and these choice people and for

7148
03:37:46,181 --> 03:37:46,582
us to champion them, we would

7149
03:37:46,582 --> 03:37:48,582
not be here.

7150
03:37:49,318 --> 03:37:49,886
It is only because and I say

7151
03:37:49,886 --> 03:37:52,286
this with no animosity

7152
03:37:54,560 --> 03:37:57,560
whatsoever it is only because

7153
03:37:59,262 --> 03:38:00,290
the these predatory developers

7154
03:38:00,290 --> 03:38:00,997
moved into an area where they

7155
03:38:00,997 --> 03:38:04,133
found and what they do is they

7156
03:38:04,133 --> 03:38:04,901
sit a Christian Spicer sits in

7157
03:38:04,901 --> 03:38:07,901
his conference room with Google

7158
03:38:09,205 --> 03:38:12,805
Maps on a screen and identifies

7159
03:38:13,876 --> 03:38:14,711
big lots and identifies areas

7160
03:38:14,711 --> 03:38:15,444
where he can go and essentially

7161
03:38:15,444 --> 03:38:18,444
cheat people out of their

7162
03:38:19,315 --> 03:38:19,982
property.

7163
03:38:19,982 --> 03:38:20,650
Will you look at this?

7164
03:38:20,650 --> 03:38:23,650
You saw this from Pamela.

7165
03:38:23,753 --> 03:38:24,530
I put it up again for you to

7166
03:38:24,530 --> 03:38:24,754
read.

7167
03:38:24,754 --> 03:38:26,754
Traditional homeowners assess

7168
03:38:28,458 --> 03:38:29,191
their properties based on

7169
03:38:29,191 --> 03:38:32,191
values from websites Redfin and

7170
03:38:33,960 --> 03:38:33,730
Zillow not realizing

7171
03:38:33,730 --> 03:38:34,663
the development potential.

7172
03:38:34,663 --> 03:38:38,263
They go in there and they

7173
03:38:38,735 --> 03:38:39,135
essentially steal these homes

7174
03:38:39,135 --> 03:38:39,702
from people.

7175
03:38:39,702 --> 03:38:42,702
Look at the last one.

7176
03:38:43,572 --> 03:38:44,240
We have a unique opportunity to

7177
03:38:44,240 --> 03:38:46,640
acquire these properties now

7178
03:38:48,711 --> 03:38:49,245
before homeowner awareness.

7179
03:38:49,245 --> 03:38:51,245
That is despicable.

7180
03:38:52,682 --> 03:38:53,115
That is absolutely

7181
03:38:53,115 --> 03:38:55,115
unacceptable.

7182
03:39:10,466 --> 03:39:11,234
And prices jump the Oh, okay.

7183
03:39:11,234 --> 03:39:11,801
I am sorry but a really

7184
03:39:11,801 --> 03:39:13,801
important thing here.

7185
03:39:14,637 --> 03:39:15,438
Let me make two points.

7186
03:39:15,438 --> 03:39:19,380
One is yes, we need housing.

7187
03:39:19,475 --> 03:39:20,430
The issue is what kind of

7188
03:39:20,430 --> 03:39:20,677
housing do we need?

7189
03:39:20,677 --> 03:39:21,544
Where do we need it?

7190
03:39:21,544 --> 03:39:24,480
What do we need and how much

7191
03:39:24,480 --> 03:39:25,148
does it cost?

7192
03:39:25,148 --> 03:39:28,148
When you balance what you've

7193
03:39:28,450 --> 03:39:29,152
heard today about the lack of

7194
03:39:29,152 --> 03:39:31,552
affordability of these units

7195
03:39:33,590 --> 03:39:34,357
and the harm that these units

7196
03:39:34,357 --> 03:39:34,991
are doing to people who have

7197
03:39:34,991 --> 03:39:37,991
spent their life and their

7198
03:39:38,728 --> 03:39:39,429
livelihood to buy their

7199
03:39:39,429 --> 03:39:40,196
property and keep it up?

7200
03:39:40,196 --> 03:39:43,196
It is indefensible to allow

7201
03:39:44,167 --> 03:39:44,734
more than four units on a

7202
03:39:44,734 --> 03:39:46,734
single family parcel.

7203
03:39:49,539 --> 03:39:53,739
We are all so sick of this

7204
03:39:53,976 --> 03:39:54,711
confabulation of affordable

7205
03:39:54,711 --> 03:39:57,711
rents and apartments and houses

7206
03:39:58,381 --> 03:39:59,149
and starter homes.

7207
03:39:59,149 --> 03:39:59,816
This is the bottom line and

7208
03:39:59,816 --> 03:40:02,216
it's irrefutable every time

7209
03:40:03,687 --> 03:40:04,321
Christine Spicer and Daniel

7210
03:40:04,321 --> 03:40:07,321
Skolnick buy one of these

7211
03:40:08,358 --> 03:40:09,125
properties they are removing

7212
03:40:09,125 --> 03:40:09,458
forever a starter home for a

7213
03:40:09,458 --> 03:40:11,458
family.

7214
03:40:13,963 --> 03:40:14,632
>> Our mayor our mayor has said

7215
03:40:14,632 --> 03:40:18,232
our mayor has said and you

7216
03:40:18,902 --> 03:40:19,769
agree that Middle income

7217
03:40:19,769 --> 03:40:20,470
housing is a very big deal Now

7218
03:40:20,470 --> 03:40:23,470
we're turning a lot of

7219
03:40:23,973 --> 03:40:24,641
attention towards allowing

7220
03:40:24,641 --> 03:40:27,641
helping people to buy homes.

7221
03:40:29,179 --> 03:40:29,945
We cannot overstate

7222
03:40:29,945 --> 03:40:33,545
the importance of the loss of

7223
03:40:34,183 --> 03:40:34,951
these homes.

7224
03:40:34,951 --> 03:40:37,951
When these developers come in

7225
03:40:38,880 --> 03:40:38,788
and buy them and turn them for

7226
03:40:38,788 --> 03:40:41,788
ever into what our apartment

7227
03:40:43,393 --> 03:40:43,826
houses and as you see it

7228
03:40:43,826 --> 03:40:44,461
happens once.

7229
03:40:44,461 --> 03:40:47,461
It's just like a virus.

7230
03:40:47,663 --> 03:40:48,464
Christian Spicer comes in and

7231
03:40:48,464 --> 03:40:48,732
buys one and puts 12 units on

7232
03:40:48,732 --> 03:40:49,532
it.

7233
03:40:49,532 --> 03:40:52,202
The people next to it say

7234
03:40:52,202 --> 03:40:52,902
they're going to sell and leave

7235
03:40:52,902 --> 03:40:53,236
because they can't live there

7236
03:40:53,236 --> 03:40:53,870
anymore.

7237
03:40:53,870 --> 03:40:56,270
There's another one gone.

7238
03:40:57,140 --> 03:40:57,774
There's another one gone.

7239
03:40:57,774 --> 03:40:58,575
There's another one gone.

7240
03:40:58,575 --> 03:41:02,780
This adds up to hundreds of

7241
03:41:02,780 --> 03:41:02,779
starter homes for the very

7242
03:41:02,779 --> 03:41:03,280
people that the city now says

7243
03:41:03,280 --> 03:41:05,680
is trying to help.

7244
03:41:07,384 --> 03:41:08,840
In conclusion, just let me say

7245
03:41:08,840 --> 03:41:10,753
please listen to these people

7246
03:41:10,753 --> 03:41:14,353
and please listen to the genius

7247
03:41:16,493 --> 03:41:16,893
of my colleagues in next days.

7248
03:41:16,893 --> 03:41:18,893
Thank you.

7249
03:41:21,498 --> 03:41:22,265
Next is Merv Thompson.

7250
03:41:22,265 --> 03:41:22,933
Merv Thompson You have several

7251
03:41:22,933 --> 03:41:23,233
people that are ceding your

7252
03:41:23,233 --> 03:41:25,233
time.

7253
03:41:25,701 --> 03:41:28,101
Frank Mirabelli, George Amore,

7254
03:41:36,513 --> 03:41:38,913
Christine Mirabelli, pac Palko.

7255
03:41:40,170 --> 03:41:40,483
This one's hard.

7256
03:41:40,483 --> 03:41:41,318
Class packets.

7257
03:41:41,318 --> 03:41:45,220
Now I'll come back to that one.

7258
03:41:45,220 --> 03:41:45,455
Christine Thompson.

7259
03:41:45,455 --> 03:41:47,455
Brian Nichols.

7260
03:41:49,359 --> 03:41:49,926
Macallan in Melby.

7261
03:41:49,926 --> 03:41:51,926
Teresa Benevides.

7262
03:41:59,136 --> 03:42:02,736
Martha Covey to Kelly de cv.

7263
03:42:03,840 --> 03:42:04,407
She left very cramped Ligaya

7264
03:42:04,407 --> 03:42:04,775
Ligaya Martinez Much.

7265
03:42:04,775 --> 03:42:06,775
Thank you.

7266
03:42:07,377 --> 03:42:11,577
Okay so the only one I think

7267
03:42:13,160 --> 03:42:13,317
it's Kelly is plus Paul on

7268
03:42:13,317 --> 03:42:15,317
there.

7269
03:42:17,287 --> 03:42:17,688
Oh okay.

7270
03:42:17,688 --> 03:42:18,522
Thank you.

7271
03:42:18,522 --> 03:42:20,922
You'll have 11 minutes Please

7272
03:42:22,425 --> 03:42:22,792
proceed.

7273
03:42:22,792 --> 03:42:23,193
>> Fine.

7274
03:42:23,193 --> 03:42:23,627
Thank you.

7275
03:42:23,627 --> 03:42:25,627
Ladies audio.

7276
03:42:26,496 --> 03:42:27,297
Thank you.

7277
03:42:27,297 --> 03:42:28,231
Thank you Chamber for listening

7278
03:42:28,231 --> 03:42:31,831
to us this afternoon at length

7279
03:42:33,603 --> 03:42:34,838
at great length.

7280
03:42:34,838 --> 03:42:39,380
>> Much of what I was going to

7281
03:42:44,548 --> 03:42:45,482
say I can hear me.

7282
03:42:45,482 --> 03:42:45,749
Let me go ahead You hear me

7283
03:42:45,749 --> 03:42:46,116
now?

7284
03:42:46,116 --> 03:42:48,116
Okay.

7285
03:42:48,285 --> 03:42:49,185
Sorry about that.

7286
03:42:49,185 --> 03:42:52,589
>> I was going to say that much

7287
03:42:52,589 --> 03:42:53,323
of what I was going to say this

7288
03:42:53,323 --> 03:42:53,990
afternoon has already been said

7289
03:42:53,990 --> 03:42:56,990
much more eloquently than I

7290
03:42:58,428 --> 03:42:59,196
ever could And I don't want to

7291
03:42:59,196 --> 03:43:02,196
be boring you with repetitious

7292
03:43:03,660 --> 03:43:04,340
information.

7293
03:43:04,340 --> 03:43:07,504
If I could if I can avoid it.

7294
03:43:07,504 --> 03:43:08,105
But let me just say something

7295
03:43:08,105 --> 03:43:08,972
that's been on my mind

7296
03:43:08,972 --> 03:43:12,572
listening to all of this as

7297
03:43:16,880 --> 03:43:17,381
much as ideas are accessory to

7298
03:43:17,381 --> 03:43:19,381
main homes.

7299
03:43:21,318 --> 03:43:21,885
The bonus program is accessory

7300
03:43:21,885 --> 03:43:23,885
to the 80 program.

7301
03:43:26,456 --> 03:43:27,191
It's voluntary.

7302
03:43:27,191 --> 03:43:30,191
There's no consequence for not

7303
03:43:31,628 --> 03:43:32,596
not adopting it whatsoever.

7304
03:43:32,596 --> 03:43:35,596
It's in page four of

7305
03:43:35,899 --> 03:43:38,299
the handbook the Bible,

7306
03:43:39,970 --> 03:43:40,271
the 2025 Bible that governs all

7307
03:43:40,271 --> 03:43:40,971
80 u.

7308
03:43:40,971 --> 03:43:43,971
Law regulations and all of

7309
03:43:44,441 --> 03:43:45,242
the cities in the state.

7310
03:43:45,242 --> 03:43:47,642
And because it's accessory

7311
03:43:49,280 --> 03:43:49,980
accessory to the 80 use almost

7312
03:43:49,980 --> 03:43:52,980
by definition it suggests that

7313
03:43:53,951 --> 03:43:54,251
it's not necessary.

7314
03:43:54,251 --> 03:43:54,985
Okay.

7315
03:43:54,985 --> 03:43:57,985
It's only necessary because you

7316
03:43:58,789 --> 03:43:59,523
made it so.

7317
03:43:59,523 --> 03:44:02,523
So the problem that we're

7318
03:44:04,940 --> 03:44:04,728
facing today is a problem that

7319
03:44:04,728 --> 03:44:05,620
you created that the mayor

7320
03:44:05,620 --> 03:44:07,620
created.

7321
03:44:07,164 --> 03:44:10,764
That's why we're here to solve

7322
03:44:12,369 --> 03:44:14,369
your problem.

7323
03:44:17,274 --> 03:44:17,574
>> I just can't understand

7324
03:44:17,574 --> 03:44:18,308
that.

7325
03:44:18,308 --> 03:44:21,612
I can't understand a lot of

7326
03:44:21,612 --> 03:44:22,345
what's going on.

7327
03:44:22,345 --> 03:44:22,680
For example, I'm digressing now

7328
03:44:22,680 --> 03:44:24,680
frankly.

7329
03:44:26,383 --> 03:44:27,351
But when I hear that

7330
03:44:27,351 --> 03:44:31,551
the solution to this is to come

7331
03:44:34,325 --> 03:44:35,920
out with four, five, six, seven

7332
03:44:35,920 --> 03:44:35,860
more units as an answer as a

7333
03:44:35,860 --> 03:44:38,860
reform to this open ended

7334
03:44:39,763 --> 03:44:40,464
process that we've had All

7335
03:44:40,464 --> 03:44:43,464
you're doing it's just making

7336
03:44:44,402 --> 03:44:44,935
them a little bit smaller but

7337
03:44:44,935 --> 03:44:45,336
you're perpetuating

7338
03:44:45,336 --> 03:44:47,336
the problem.

7339
03:44:48,639 --> 03:44:49,506
Okay.

7340
03:44:49,506 --> 03:44:50,174
>> I heard a lot about

7341
03:44:50,174 --> 03:44:53,774
the housing crisis and oh my

7342
03:44:53,778 --> 03:44:54,412
goodness, the bonuses necessary

7343
03:44:54,412 --> 03:44:54,744
for to solve the housing

7344
03:44:54,744 --> 03:44:56,744
crisis.

7345
03:44:58,916 --> 03:44:59,583
Well, if it were necessary

7346
03:44:59,583 --> 03:45:00,284
the oecd would tell you it's

7347
03:45:00,284 --> 03:45:00,918
necessary and put it in its

7348
03:45:00,918 --> 03:45:03,318
literature And they're not

7349
03:45:04,210 --> 03:45:04,755
doing that.

7350
03:45:04,755 --> 03:45:05,189
It's a problem because you made

7351
03:45:05,189 --> 03:45:07,189
it a problem.

7352
03:45:09,327 --> 03:45:13,527
No other city in the state has

7353
03:45:14,310 --> 03:45:14,698
an edu bonus program and

7354
03:45:14,698 --> 03:45:15,232
certainly none the likes of

7355
03:45:15,232 --> 03:45:17,632
which we have here.

7356
03:45:18,602 --> 03:45:19,302
So none of the forums in

7357
03:45:19,302 --> 03:45:22,902
the state none of the council

7358
03:45:26,770 --> 03:45:26,743
meetings in the state mimic

7359
03:45:26,743 --> 03:45:27,178
what's going on here today.

7360
03:45:27,178 --> 03:45:29,178
None of them.

7361
03:45:31,482 --> 03:45:31,883
Because they don't have

7362
03:45:31,883 --> 03:45:32,550
the problem.

7363
03:45:32,550 --> 03:45:35,486
The problem that you created

7364
03:45:35,486 --> 03:45:36,220
because they avoided it they

7365
03:45:36,220 --> 03:45:36,553
never adopted it to begin with.

7366
03:45:36,553 --> 03:45:38,553
Okay.

7367
03:45:43,226 --> 03:45:45,626
That's why we're here.

7368
03:45:48,232 --> 03:45:48,866
You know, I've lived in my

7369
03:45:48,866 --> 03:45:50,866
neighborhood for 55 years,

7370
03:45:55,807 --> 03:45:58,543
raised my children there, went

7371
03:45:58,543 --> 03:46:00,943
to school there, remodeled

7372
03:46:03,448 --> 03:46:04,148
about 40 times >> And now at

7373
03:46:04,148 --> 03:46:07,748
the bottom of our hill right

7374
03:46:08,286 --> 03:46:08,753
now a project is going in that

7375
03:46:08,753 --> 03:46:09,487
was reported in

7376
03:46:09,487 --> 03:46:10,121
the Union-Tribune this morning.

7377
03:46:10,121 --> 03:46:13,190
I'm going to have the next

7378
03:46:13,190 --> 03:46:15,590
slide courtesy of Christian

7379
03:46:18,950 --> 03:46:18,429
Spicer courtesy of Christian

7380
03:46:18,429 --> 03:46:20,429
Spicer.

7381
03:46:23,301 --> 03:46:24,100
This unit is going in at

7382
03:46:24,100 --> 03:46:27,100
the bottom of the hill

7383
03:46:31,142 --> 03:46:31,676
surrounded by houses two blocks

7384
03:46:31,676 --> 03:46:34,760
away from my house.

7385
03:46:35,413 --> 03:46:38,413
You've got six three story

7386
03:46:40,585 --> 03:46:42,585
buildings housing 116 80 use

7387
03:46:44,755 --> 03:46:45,389
with a portion where you see

7388
03:46:45,389 --> 03:46:48,389
all those cars being park

7389
03:46:49,327 --> 03:46:49,927
the hotspot attached to that is

7390
03:46:49,927 --> 03:46:52,327
that is heritage land.

7391
03:46:55,265 --> 03:46:55,966
The last remaining portion of

7392
03:46:55,966 --> 03:46:58,603
the Cuzmy village called Lucky

7393
03:46:58,603 --> 03:46:59,470
When Nada La Rincon Nada.

7394
03:46:59,470 --> 03:47:03,700
And those cars are parked right

7395
03:47:03,641 --> 03:47:04,409
on top of it.

7396
03:47:04,409 --> 03:47:07,409
>> That roadway that leads into

7397
03:47:08,913 --> 03:47:09,346
this project is not even a

7398
03:47:09,346 --> 03:47:10,480
public street.

7399
03:47:10,480 --> 03:47:10,548
It's called Charles Sidney But

7400
03:47:10,548 --> 03:47:12,683
it's not a street.

7401
03:47:12,683 --> 03:47:13,251
It's not even paved.

7402
03:47:13,251 --> 03:47:13,651
It's a roadway.

7403
03:47:13,651 --> 03:47:15,651
It's dirt.

7404
03:47:17,788 --> 03:47:18,356
If you take a look at it you

7405
03:47:18,356 --> 03:47:19,900
will see the following

7406
03:47:19,900 --> 03:47:22,690
Considering that this is in a

7407
03:47:23,940 --> 03:47:23,394
very high fire hazard severity

7408
03:47:23,394 --> 03:47:25,394
zone.

7409
03:47:27,865 --> 03:47:28,466
That roadway is provides only

7410
03:47:28,466 --> 03:47:30,866
one ingress and egress.

7411
03:47:33,370 --> 03:47:36,370
There is no adequate turnaround

7412
03:47:37,142 --> 03:47:37,742
at the end of it.

7413
03:47:37,742 --> 03:47:38,476
No adequate turnaround.

7414
03:47:38,476 --> 03:47:41,476
There are no two evacuation

7415
03:47:42,180 --> 03:47:43,470
points.

7416
03:47:43,470 --> 03:47:43,915
And if a fire ever starts there

7417
03:47:43,915 --> 03:47:46,651
you're going to have a mini

7418
03:47:46,651 --> 03:47:47,352
Palisades because all that

7419
03:47:47,352 --> 03:47:50,352
vegetation on these slopes to

7420
03:47:51,790 --> 03:47:52,523
work upwards is going to ignite

7421
03:47:52,523 --> 03:47:55,523
and the neighborhoods around it

7422
03:47:56,461 --> 03:47:57,329
are going to be devastated.

7423
03:47:57,329 --> 03:48:00,929
And you best consult your risk

7424
03:48:01,299 --> 03:48:02,660
desk today if this project goes

7425
03:48:02,660 --> 03:48:05,370
in because it's going to come

7426
03:48:05,370 --> 03:48:06,700
down like thunder on the city

7427
03:48:06,700 --> 03:48:06,704
and the neighborhoods will be

7428
03:48:06,704 --> 03:48:09,104
destroyed in the process.

7429
03:48:10,641 --> 03:48:11,343
Look what's happening to

7430
03:48:11,343 --> 03:48:11,776
the Admiral Hartman community

7431
03:48:11,776 --> 03:48:12,310
down below it.

7432
03:48:12,310 --> 03:48:14,710
Never mind the fire.

7433
03:48:15,946 --> 03:48:16,615
Look what's happening there.

7434
03:48:16,615 --> 03:48:19,150
And the neighborhood that's

7435
03:48:19,784 --> 03:48:20,552
occupied with our servicemen.

7436
03:48:20,552 --> 03:48:20,852
You see all those little red

7437
03:48:20,852 --> 03:48:21,519
dots?

7438
03:48:21,519 --> 03:48:24,755
Those are the extra cars are

7439
03:48:24,755 --> 03:48:25,557
going to be placed there.

7440
03:48:25,557 --> 03:48:26,257
That particular intersection is

7441
03:48:26,257 --> 03:48:29,257
only one of two intersections

7442
03:48:30,128 --> 03:48:30,828
that provide add at access to

7443
03:48:30,828 --> 03:48:33,828
northbound Highway five out of

7444
03:48:35,660 --> 03:48:36,340
Pacific Beach every morning.

7445
03:48:36,340 --> 03:48:40,171
I invite you to come down there

7446
03:48:40,171 --> 03:48:40,872
and witness the logjam that we

7447
03:48:40,872 --> 03:48:43,872
already have during rush hours

7448
03:48:45,210 --> 03:48:45,877
and imagine if this structure

7449
03:48:45,877 --> 03:48:48,877
goes in the catastrophe that

7450
03:48:49,314 --> 03:48:49,814
will occur thereafter.

7451
03:48:49,814 --> 03:48:50,482
It's unseemly.

7452
03:48:50,482 --> 03:48:52,882
It's just totally unseemly.

7453
03:48:54,519 --> 03:48:55,287
It's not acceptable that a city

7454
03:48:55,287 --> 03:48:57,488
would tolerate this kind of

7455
03:48:57,488 --> 03:48:59,488
development with ministerial

7456
03:49:02,294 --> 03:49:04,294
approval.

7457
03:49:07,199 --> 03:49:07,499
>> It makes no sense whatsoever

7458
03:49:07,499 --> 03:49:08,366
.

7459
03:49:08,366 --> 03:49:09,133
One of the things I was trying

7460
03:49:09,133 --> 03:49:12,437
to point out are going to be

7461
03:49:12,437 --> 03:49:14,837
pointing out was this

7462
03:49:16,507 --> 03:49:16,975
particular this particular

7463
03:49:16,975 --> 03:49:18,975
little exhibit.

7464
03:49:20,979 --> 03:49:23,915
This is I think it's one of

7465
03:49:23,915 --> 03:49:28,715
the ones that that we had as a

7466
03:49:28,986 --> 03:49:29,521
part of the Housing and Urban

7467
03:49:29,521 --> 03:49:31,521
Development Program.

7468
03:49:34,125 --> 03:49:34,993
What it really identify is

7469
03:49:34,993 --> 03:49:38,593
you've seen this all before is

7470
03:49:39,331 --> 03:49:40,310
an proves our point in

7471
03:49:40,310 --> 03:49:40,699
advocating what neighbors and

7472
03:49:40,699 --> 03:49:43,990
others have advocated there

7473
03:49:44,669 --> 03:49:48,730
that for is fair we want for is

7474
03:49:48,730 --> 03:49:48,506
fair and Pacific Beach.

7475
03:49:48,506 --> 03:49:50,506
Absolutely.

7476
03:49:53,277 --> 03:49:57,477
What we see here is proof that

7477
03:49:58,349 --> 03:50:01,349
forest fair works because it's

7478
03:50:01,586 --> 03:50:03,986
five thousand 180 to 1 two

7479
03:50:06,591 --> 03:50:07,359
three homes dominate the 5000

7480
03:50:07,359 --> 03:50:09,359
720 homes that included

7481
03:50:11,429 --> 03:50:11,997
the bonus.

7482
03:50:11,997 --> 03:50:12,497
One, two, three.

7483
03:50:12,497 --> 03:50:14,497
123.

7484
03:50:18,770 --> 03:50:19,504
91% of all homes including

7485
03:50:19,504 --> 03:50:21,904
bonus 80 homes including bonus

7486
03:50:24,900 --> 03:50:24,476
are caught up in this figure.

7487
03:50:24,476 --> 03:50:25,343
And get this.

7488
03:50:25,343 --> 03:50:28,343
And as you think about

7489
03:50:29,214 --> 03:50:29,947
advocating for four, six and

7490
03:50:29,947 --> 03:50:32,170
seven based upon square footage

7491
03:50:32,170 --> 03:50:35,617
of lots that the one, two,

7492
03:50:37,489 --> 03:50:38,156
three cut across all of

7493
03:50:38,156 --> 03:50:42,227
the lots so all of the loss

7494
03:50:42,227 --> 03:50:42,994
we're talking about that are

7495
03:50:42,994 --> 03:50:46,594
part of the reform that you're

7496
03:50:47,799 --> 03:50:50,199
advocating are already subsumed

7497
03:50:53,572 --> 03:50:54,506
in one, two three.

7498
03:50:54,506 --> 03:50:58,710
So if you were to ask me and

7499
03:50:58,710 --> 03:51:02,648
I'm no land use guy what works?

7500
03:51:02,648 --> 03:51:03,215
What works is one, two, three

7501
03:51:03,215 --> 03:51:03,849
with a maximum of four

7502
03:51:03,849 --> 03:51:06,249
including the main house.

7503
03:51:06,451 --> 03:51:06,852
That's what works.

7504
03:51:06,852 --> 03:51:08,852
Okay.

7505
03:51:11,823 --> 03:51:12,624
No.

7506
03:51:12,624 --> 03:51:13,392
>> With all of the devastation

7507
03:51:13,392 --> 03:51:16,992
that your program is causing to

7508
03:51:17,960 --> 03:51:17,963
these neighborhoods and to

7509
03:51:17,963 --> 03:51:21,300
assert that your houses have a

7510
03:51:21,300 --> 03:51:22,340
housing crisis that justifies

7511
03:51:22,340 --> 03:51:26,104
it, you don't solve a crisis by

7512
03:51:26,104 --> 03:51:26,504
creating another crisis.

7513
03:51:26,504 --> 03:51:28,504
>> Okay.

7514
03:51:31,210 --> 03:51:31,977
You just don't do that.

7515
03:51:31,977 --> 03:51:32,711
>> I'm going to conclude early

7516
03:51:32,711 --> 03:51:36,311
Instead of taking you through a

7517
03:51:36,682 --> 03:51:37,549
lot of the exhibits that I was

7518
03:51:37,549 --> 03:51:41,149
going to be showing you about

7519
03:51:41,353 --> 03:51:44,953
why seven six, 654 are not to

7520
03:51:45,891 --> 03:51:46,859
scale because they're not

7521
03:51:46,859 --> 03:51:51,590
they're not to scale at all And

7522
03:51:51,397 --> 03:51:52,310
yet that is what one of your

7523
03:51:52,310 --> 03:51:54,431
amendments proposes to do.

7524
03:51:55,166 --> 03:51:55,968
It's just simply wrong.

7525
03:51:55,968 --> 03:51:56,702
It's wrong in some of the data

7526
03:51:56,702 --> 03:51:59,702
that you've used to calculate

7527
03:52:00,506 --> 03:52:03,506
calculate the five, six, seven,

7528
03:52:04,477 --> 03:52:05,110
eight the 1000 square foot main

7529
03:52:05,110 --> 03:52:05,577
house that doesn't exist.

7530
03:52:05,577 --> 03:52:06,278
It's a fiction.

7531
03:52:06,278 --> 03:52:09,548
The average house of the city

7532
03:52:09,548 --> 03:52:09,848
of San Diego is 1500 square

7533
03:52:09,848 --> 03:52:10,549
feet.

7534
03:52:10,549 --> 03:52:13,549
And besides that, to calculate

7535
03:52:14,853 --> 03:52:15,487
the way you did if maximum home

7536
03:52:15,487 --> 03:52:18,487
sizes were placed on these

7537
03:52:18,657 --> 03:52:19,324
lots, guess how many to use You

7538
03:52:19,324 --> 03:52:22,324
could build none except for

7539
03:52:23,696 --> 03:52:23,996
the state required to.

7540
03:52:23,996 --> 03:52:24,497
Okay.

7541
03:52:24,497 --> 03:52:24,963
That's a fact.

7542
03:52:24,963 --> 03:52:26,963
That's a fact.

7543
03:52:29,134 --> 03:52:29,802
So the calculation in measure

7544
03:52:29,802 --> 03:52:32,802
measures that you have taken

7545
03:52:33,205 --> 03:52:33,772
that cover four, five, six and

7546
03:52:33,772 --> 03:52:34,573
seven just don't work.

7547
03:52:34,573 --> 03:52:37,573
They don't even take into

7548
03:52:38,543 --> 03:52:39,344
consideration what or

7549
03:52:39,344 --> 03:52:42,944
the nuances that exist in every

7550
03:52:43,215 --> 03:52:43,916
lot.

7551
03:52:43,916 --> 03:52:46,916
It's a failure of analysis.

7552
03:52:48,587 --> 03:52:49,288
What works is for four spare

7553
03:52:49,288 --> 03:52:51,688
including the base residence.

7554
03:52:59,598 --> 03:53:00,366
Thank you Maria Conrad.

7555
03:53:00,366 --> 03:53:00,700
>> After Mayor Conrad, it's

7556
03:53:00,700 --> 03:53:02,700
Charlie.

7557
03:53:04,690 --> 03:53:04,736
Our Christopher Pablo, Gail

7558
03:53:04,736 --> 03:53:05,438
Vimont and Robert Campbell.

7559
03:53:05,438 --> 03:53:09,800
If you could start making your

7560
03:53:09,800 --> 03:53:09,709
way up to the other reserved

7561
03:53:09,709 --> 03:53:13,309
seats as well as Mandy Havlik,

7562
03:53:13,779 --> 03:53:15,779
please proceed.

7563
03:53:18,751 --> 03:53:19,485
>> So I know that you all know

7564
03:53:19,485 --> 03:53:20,152
and they all know especially

7565
03:53:20,152 --> 03:53:23,152
since the last speaker spoke

7566
03:53:24,290 --> 03:53:25,570
that the bonus edu program is

7567
03:53:25,570 --> 03:53:28,294
not necessary in any way to

7568
03:53:28,294 --> 03:53:28,661
meet any state mandated housing

7569
03:53:28,661 --> 03:53:30,661
mandates.

7570
03:53:33,299 --> 03:53:33,966
Nothing is needed from

7571
03:53:33,966 --> 03:53:34,267
the bonus edu program it is

7572
03:53:34,267 --> 03:53:34,866
known.

7573
03:53:34,866 --> 03:53:37,866
How do we know that?

7574
03:53:38,571 --> 03:53:39,272
Because San Diego is the only

7575
03:53:39,272 --> 03:53:42,741
place in the entire state that

7576
03:53:42,741 --> 03:53:43,809
has it every other area has

7577
03:53:43,809 --> 03:53:47,947
figured it out in a way that is

7578
03:53:47,947 --> 03:53:48,547
not allowing corporate takeover

7579
03:53:48,547 --> 03:53:50,947
of our neighborhoods and

7580
03:53:52,918 --> 03:53:53,286
destroying the very fabric of

7581
03:53:53,286 --> 03:53:54,186
our city.

7582
03:53:54,186 --> 03:53:58,570
I am calling on you to dissolve

7583
03:53:58,570 --> 03:53:58,524
the bonus Edu program.

7584
03:53:58,524 --> 03:54:00,524
It is divisive.

7585
03:54:03,428 --> 03:54:03,863
It is dangerous and it is

7586
03:54:03,863 --> 03:54:05,863
disrespectful.

7587
03:54:08,367 --> 03:54:08,867
It is disrespectful to all of

7588
03:54:08,867 --> 03:54:09,468
your constituents.

7589
03:54:09,468 --> 03:54:11,868
It is disrespectful to

7590
03:54:13,705 --> 03:54:14,607
everybody who wants to live in

7591
03:54:14,607 --> 03:54:18,207
a city that feels heard by

7592
03:54:19,211 --> 03:54:19,979
the people.

7593
03:54:19,979 --> 03:54:20,279
>> Thank you for comment.

7594
03:54:20,279 --> 03:54:20,847
Okay.

7595
03:54:20,847 --> 03:54:22,847
Thank you, Charlie.

7596
03:54:26,785 --> 03:54:30,385
Charlie Our aup are Charlie are

7597
03:54:32,358 --> 03:54:33,292
you here?

7598
03:54:33,292 --> 03:54:35,294
>> Oh, Christopher, that is you

7599
03:54:35,294 --> 03:54:38,294
And you have a PowerPoint

7600
03:54:40,666 --> 03:54:41,534
presentation.

7601
03:54:41,534 --> 03:54:42,201
>> You have time ceded to you

7602
03:54:42,201 --> 03:54:44,601
If the following individuals

7603
03:54:45,471 --> 03:54:49,710
can please raise their hand and

7604
03:54:49,908 --> 03:54:50,276
have their public please raise

7605
03:54:50,276 --> 03:54:50,610
your hand.

7606
03:54:50,610 --> 03:54:52,610
Oh okay.

7607
03:54:54,947 --> 03:54:55,414
Leela or Lila?

7608
03:54:55,414 --> 03:54:55,814
>> Thank you.

7609
03:54:55,814 --> 03:54:57,814
And Ezra.

7610
03:54:59,385 --> 03:55:02,985
Oh, there is no age requirement

7611
03:55:03,823 --> 03:55:04,523
here.

7612
03:55:04,523 --> 03:55:04,990
>> You have four minutes.

7613
03:55:04,990 --> 03:55:06,990
Please proceed.

7614
03:55:09,995 --> 03:55:10,296
Hi, my name is Christopher

7615
03:55:10,296 --> 03:55:11,630
Pope.

7616
03:55:11,630 --> 03:55:11,364
I took time off of work to be

7617
03:55:11,364 --> 03:55:13,266
here.

7618
03:55:13,266 --> 03:55:13,699
I've never been to a council

7619
03:55:13,699 --> 03:55:14,300
meeting.

7620
03:55:14,300 --> 03:55:14,567
I actually wouldn't be.

7621
03:55:14,567 --> 03:55:15,234
No.

7622
03:55:15,234 --> 03:55:18,234
Most of the wonderful people

7623
03:55:18,404 --> 03:55:19,305
here if it wasn't for this

7624
03:55:19,305 --> 03:55:19,973
issue that I found out about it

7625
03:55:19,973 --> 03:55:22,973
affecting me five weeks ago.

7626
03:55:24,309 --> 03:55:25,770
And let me be clear.

7627
03:55:25,770 --> 03:55:28,770
>> I am an edu builder.

7628
03:55:28,481 --> 03:55:29,249
I've built eight views on two

7629
03:55:29,249 --> 03:55:29,582
of my properties 2 to 80 years

7630
03:55:29,582 --> 03:55:31,582
on each.

7631
03:55:32,251 --> 03:55:33,520
Each of you has to park with

7632
03:55:33,520 --> 03:55:33,453
each owner to use a below

7633
03:55:33,453 --> 03:55:33,954
market rent.

7634
03:55:33,954 --> 03:55:35,954
>> It's possible.

7635
03:55:37,424 --> 03:55:38,240
I encourage all my my fellow

7636
03:55:38,240 --> 03:55:41,240
colleagues at work to do

7637
03:55:41,227 --> 03:55:41,828
the same thing by building a

7638
03:55:41,828 --> 03:55:42,495
you help housing crisis.

7639
03:55:42,495 --> 03:55:42,896
You don't have to be greedy

7640
03:55:42,896 --> 03:55:44,896
about it.

7641
03:55:46,933 --> 03:55:50,533
So this issue is affecting my

7642
03:55:51,171 --> 03:55:52,380
cold tech.

7643
03:55:52,380 --> 03:55:52,572
It's a safety concern because

7644
03:55:52,572 --> 03:55:54,572
there's no parking.

7645
03:55:57,343 --> 03:55:58,110
Kristen Spicer Siri it's

7646
03:55:58,110 --> 03:56:00,313
building ten units on a single

7647
03:56:00,313 --> 03:56:01,800
family lot.

7648
03:56:01,800 --> 03:56:03,480
>> It's disturbing because I

7649
03:56:05,885 --> 03:56:06,419
didn't know about this until

7650
03:56:06,419 --> 03:56:07,530
four weeks ago when

7651
03:56:07,530 --> 03:56:07,720
the excavators came up and

7652
03:56:07,720 --> 03:56:10,720
showed up Start digging for

7653
03:56:11,491 --> 03:56:12,240
the construction And I went

7654
03:56:12,240 --> 03:56:12,692
down to the theater.

7655
03:56:12,692 --> 03:56:13,393
I heard from my neighbors it

7656
03:56:13,393 --> 03:56:15,662
was going to be a ten unit lot

7657
03:56:15,662 --> 03:56:16,396
and I was shocked.

7658
03:56:16,396 --> 03:56:19,396
And it's a safety concern

7659
03:56:20,867 --> 03:56:21,667
because we have a narrow cul de

7660
03:56:21,667 --> 03:56:21,968
sac and there's no room for 20

7661
03:56:21,968 --> 03:56:23,968
cars.

7662
03:56:25,839 --> 03:56:26,606
I'm fighting for my family.

7663
03:56:26,606 --> 03:56:29,600
>> It's a fire hazard.

7664
03:56:31,378 --> 03:56:32,278
There was no transparency when

7665
03:56:32,278 --> 03:56:35,649
I built a to use on my lot.

7666
03:56:35,649 --> 03:56:36,115
I let my community know I

7667
03:56:36,115 --> 03:56:36,850
provide parking.

7668
03:56:36,850 --> 03:56:37,550
I provide all the monies that I

7669
03:56:37,550 --> 03:56:40,820
would want if I lived there.

7670
03:56:40,820 --> 03:56:43,820
It's possible I'm asking to

7671
03:56:45,725 --> 03:56:46,225
stop this project in my cul de

7672
03:56:46,225 --> 03:56:48,225
sac project.

7673
03:56:49,996 --> 03:56:50,763
Prj1124433 now.

7674
03:56:50,763 --> 03:56:54,363
At the developer we work it.

7675
03:56:54,434 --> 03:56:55,201
Thank you for sending mild and

7676
03:56:55,201 --> 03:56:56,690
summer to my house to meet with

7677
03:56:56,690 --> 03:56:59,500
our community to try to set up

7678
03:56:59,500 --> 03:56:59,706
a meeting with the developer.

7679
03:56:59,706 --> 03:57:00,173
Unfortunately the developer

7680
03:57:00,173 --> 03:57:02,173
didn't show up.

7681
03:57:03,977 --> 03:57:04,644
I'm.

7682
03:57:04,644 --> 03:57:06,644
>> Next slide please.

7683
03:57:08,815 --> 03:57:09,282
Next time you missed that one.

7684
03:57:09,282 --> 03:57:10,500
Talk about that.

7685
03:57:10,500 --> 03:57:13,650
This is an analysis of all

7686
03:57:14,187 --> 03:57:14,687
the cars that could fit in in

7687
03:57:14,687 --> 03:57:15,322
our cul de sac.

7688
03:57:15,322 --> 03:57:15,888
There's nine single family

7689
03:57:15,888 --> 03:57:17,757
locked in our call.

7690
03:57:17,757 --> 03:57:18,358
The fact there there's nine car

7691
03:57:18,358 --> 03:57:20,758
nine nine parking spots.

7692
03:57:21,561 --> 03:57:22,228
Assuming you could you could

7693
03:57:22,228 --> 03:57:25,828
fit two cars on the narrow,

7694
03:57:26,600 --> 03:57:27,367
narrow spot right there.

7695
03:57:27,367 --> 03:57:28,680
It's not possible to have an

7696
03:57:28,680 --> 03:57:28,368
emergency vehicle come up that

7697
03:57:28,368 --> 03:57:30,368
hill.

7698
03:57:31,104 --> 03:57:31,771
Garbage has been missed in our

7699
03:57:31,771 --> 03:57:32,339
cul de sac because cars were

7700
03:57:32,339 --> 03:57:33,730
parked in that manner.

7701
03:57:33,730 --> 03:57:36,576
But that's the only way to

7702
03:57:36,576 --> 03:57:36,976
legally park nine cars in our

7703
03:57:36,976 --> 03:57:37,644
cul de sac.

7704
03:57:37,644 --> 03:57:39,790
How would we fit 20?

7705
03:57:39,790 --> 03:57:41,748
On an average night there's

7706
03:57:41,748 --> 03:57:44,148
only 2 or 3 open spots.

7707
03:57:47,287 --> 03:57:48,154
Next slide.

7708
03:57:48,154 --> 03:57:48,822
>> This is just And look at our

7709
03:57:48,822 --> 03:57:51,258
cul de sac at night.

7710
03:57:51,258 --> 03:57:51,590
There's no open spot on Burton

7711
03:57:51,590 --> 03:57:53,590
Street.

7712
03:57:56,997 --> 03:57:57,798
Next slide.

7713
03:57:57,798 --> 03:57:58,431
>> The developer if this rules

7714
03:57:58,431 --> 03:58:00,831
the proletariat is pro

7715
03:58:01,635 --> 03:58:02,702
developer anti middle class.

7716
03:58:02,702 --> 03:58:05,639
>> This house with a run down

7717
03:58:05,639 --> 03:58:06,105
two storey 2a2 bedroom, one

7718
03:58:06,105 --> 03:58:08,105
bathroom house.

7719
03:58:09,975 --> 03:58:10,610
The estimate 800,000 on

7720
03:58:10,610 --> 03:58:13,100
the market for 995 because

7721
03:58:15,215 --> 03:58:15,916
the sellers were already

7722
03:58:15,916 --> 03:58:16,416
getting calls before they put

7723
03:58:16,416 --> 03:58:17,117
it on the market.

7724
03:58:17,117 --> 03:58:19,517
>> Christian Spicer bought it

7725
03:58:22,889 --> 03:58:23,523
for 1.25 $1.22225 million

7726
03:58:23,523 --> 03:58:24,191
beating any competitor who

7727
03:58:24,191 --> 03:58:27,191
would buy this rundown house

7728
03:58:27,594 --> 03:58:28,361
for that much.

7729
03:58:28,361 --> 03:58:28,828
>> Long Behold we didn't know

7730
03:58:28,828 --> 03:58:30,828
about its plans.

7731
03:58:32,632 --> 03:58:32,966
Explain Christian Spicer owner

7732
03:58:32,966 --> 03:58:33,666
theory.

7733
03:58:33,666 --> 03:58:37,266
This is all from his website.

7734
03:58:37,838 --> 03:58:38,338
Read it.

7735
03:58:38,338 --> 03:58:40,338
Read it.

7736
03:58:43,877 --> 03:58:44,644
He started a theory.

7737
03:58:44,644 --> 03:58:45,111
He started pro how he started

7738
03:58:45,111 --> 03:58:45,712
Brooklyn moving.

7739
03:58:45,712 --> 03:58:47,481
He owns the real estate.

7740
03:58:47,481 --> 03:58:48,115
He owns the He owns

7741
03:58:48,115 --> 03:58:48,648
the construction company.

7742
03:58:48,648 --> 03:58:50,648
>> He's making bank.

7743
03:58:52,785 --> 03:58:53,286
Most people who are homeowners

7744
03:58:53,286 --> 03:58:53,921
and who care about

7745
03:58:53,921 --> 03:58:54,221
the community would not do

7746
03:58:54,221 --> 03:58:56,221
that.

7747
03:58:57,457 --> 03:58:58,580
>> I finally get to meet a

7748
03:58:58,580 --> 03:58:58,725
developer within here on

7749
03:58:58,725 --> 03:58:59,425
the blue blazer who came up.

7750
03:58:59,425 --> 03:59:02,196
I went out to talk to him and

7751
03:59:02,196 --> 03:59:02,863
politely asked him Why are you

7752
03:59:02,863 --> 03:59:03,397
provide, you know, parking?

7753
03:59:03,397 --> 03:59:05,797
What's up with that?

7754
03:59:06,933 --> 03:59:07,801
Why?

7755
03:59:07,801 --> 03:59:10,938
>> I want to understand if I'm

7756
03:59:10,938 --> 03:59:11,705
in the wrong side wrong mindset

7757
03:59:11,705 --> 03:59:14,705
please stop this pr game

7758
03:59:20,282 --> 03:59:21,114
project Now reworking.

7759
03:59:21,114 --> 03:59:21,715
>> We still have about an hour

7760
03:59:21,715 --> 03:59:24,115
left of public comment.

7761
03:59:26,453 --> 03:59:26,920
The hand-waving does help get

7762
03:59:26,920 --> 03:59:28,920
people up here.

7763
03:59:30,157 --> 03:59:30,958
Gail Vermont Do you have time

7764
03:59:30,958 --> 03:59:34,558
city to buy Neal Weiner Winner.

7765
03:59:35,428 --> 03:59:36,163
Oh thank you City council

7766
03:59:36,163 --> 03:59:36,763
members for your difficult work

7767
03:59:36,763 --> 03:59:37,970
and great effort on this

7768
03:59:37,970 --> 03:59:39,970
matter.

7769
03:59:39,867 --> 03:59:42,867
Please focus on this fact.

7770
03:59:44,104 --> 03:59:44,638
As you've heard this is not

7771
03:59:44,638 --> 03:59:46,638
affordable housing.

7772
03:59:49,576 --> 03:59:50,343
It is property capture.

7773
03:59:50,343 --> 03:59:51,440
>> There are many reasons to

7774
03:59:51,440 --> 03:59:51,545
rein in the bonus adu program.

7775
03:59:51,545 --> 03:59:53,545
You've heard them.

7776
03:59:54,140 --> 03:59:54,681
It allows multiple unit

7777
03:59:54,681 --> 03:59:55,516
buildings to go up without a

7778
03:59:55,516 --> 03:59:59,116
next door neighbor, much less a

7779
03:59:59,153 --> 03:59:59,853
community say to bypass parking

7780
03:59:59,853 --> 04:00:00,387
requirements and contributions

7781
04:00:00,387 --> 04:00:02,787
to schools, park and

7782
04:00:04,291 --> 04:00:04,991
infrastructure.

7783
04:00:04,991 --> 04:00:05,559
Archer Fire codes aren't being

7784
04:00:05,559 --> 04:00:05,926
monitored, observed or

7785
04:00:05,926 --> 04:00:07,926
enforced.

7786
04:00:09,262 --> 04:00:09,596
Affordable housing is not being

7787
04:00:09,596 --> 04:00:11,596
created.

7788
04:00:13,801 --> 04:00:14,535
>> Instead, as we've just

7789
04:00:14,535 --> 04:00:15,202
heard, commercial interests are

7790
04:00:15,202 --> 04:00:15,502
out bidding on single family

7791
04:00:15,502 --> 04:00:17,502
homes.

7792
04:00:18,539 --> 04:00:19,240
They take them off the market

7793
04:00:19,240 --> 04:00:22,240
building and then renting what

7794
04:00:23,177 --> 04:00:23,877
would be otherwise called

7795
04:00:23,877 --> 04:00:24,310
apartment buildings at prices

7796
04:00:24,310 --> 04:00:26,310
they see fit.

7797
04:00:28,682 --> 04:00:29,383
And so they control these rents

7798
04:00:29,383 --> 04:00:32,383
and properties for the future.

7799
04:00:33,721 --> 04:00:34,154
Our children are our friends,

7800
04:00:34,154 --> 04:00:34,722
our families.

7801
04:00:34,722 --> 04:00:36,722
>> Our neighbors lose.

7802
04:00:38,859 --> 04:00:39,159
And this is a social justice

7803
04:00:39,159 --> 04:00:39,993
issue.

7804
04:00:39,993 --> 04:00:43,593
And I know that my particular

7805
04:00:43,864 --> 04:00:44,564
COUNCILMAN Member Seanie Lo

7806
04:00:44,564 --> 04:00:47,564
Rivera is very concerned about

7807
04:00:48,803 --> 04:00:49,503
social justice and people from

7808
04:00:49,503 --> 04:00:50,203
the middle class and those who

7809
04:00:50,203 --> 04:00:53,203
need homes to have affordable

7810
04:00:53,674 --> 04:00:54,441
housing.

7811
04:00:54,441 --> 04:00:55,209
And this is not doing it.

7812
04:00:55,209 --> 04:00:58,209
It's taking those houses away

7813
04:01:01,715 --> 04:01:02,383
and locking them up forever.

7814
04:01:02,383 --> 04:01:02,983
>> Please accept the full

7815
04:01:02,983 --> 04:01:03,617
amendments submitted by

7816
04:01:03,617 --> 04:01:06,617
neighbors for a better San

7817
04:01:07,354 --> 04:01:08,122
Diego and make all of San Diego

7818
04:01:08,122 --> 04:01:11,122
accessible and livable for its

7819
04:01:11,358 --> 04:01:11,759
residents now and in

7820
04:01:11,759 --> 04:01:13,759
the future.

7821
04:01:16,463 --> 04:01:17,131
>> Thank you.

7822
04:01:17,131 --> 04:01:17,865
>> Thank you, Rob Campbell.

7823
04:01:17,865 --> 04:01:20,865
You have several people sitting

7824
04:01:21,302 --> 04:01:22,200
in your chime.

7825
04:01:22,200 --> 04:01:22,370
Charles Douglass, please raise

7826
04:01:22,370 --> 04:01:24,370
your hand.

7827
04:01:29,810 --> 04:01:30,143
Marge Werfel, Irwin Fowler.

7828
04:01:30,143 --> 04:01:30,778
Fowler.

7829
04:01:30,778 --> 04:01:33,778
I don't see anyone there.

7830
04:01:34,648 --> 04:01:34,915
Hendricks Terry Winn, thank

7831
04:01:34,915 --> 04:01:36,915
you.

7832
04:01:39,653 --> 04:01:42,530
>> Mary Young Michael with

7833
04:01:43,624 --> 04:01:45,624
Marlin Edward Walton.

7834
04:01:48,529 --> 04:01:50,929
No idea how easy.

7835
04:01:52,933 --> 04:01:55,933
Judith McElwee Judith I don't

7836
04:01:56,904 --> 04:01:57,337
see a Judith that takes you to

7837
04:01:57,337 --> 04:01:57,905
eight minutes.

7838
04:01:57,905 --> 04:01:58,205
>> Please proceed on.

7839
04:01:58,205 --> 04:01:58,673
Ready?

7840
04:01:58,673 --> 04:02:00,673
Thank you.

7841
04:02:01,609 --> 04:02:02,309
I only have one slide.

7842
04:02:02,309 --> 04:02:02,977
It will remain up the entire

7843
04:02:02,977 --> 04:02:03,243
time and I feel free to read

7844
04:02:03,243 --> 04:02:05,243
it.

7845
04:02:05,913 --> 04:02:06,747
I am.

7846
04:02:06,747 --> 04:02:07,448
So we heard from the planning

7847
04:02:07,448 --> 04:02:07,982
department when they presented

7848
04:02:07,982 --> 04:02:10,382
today that there was

7849
04:02:10,985 --> 04:02:11,585
significant public outreach

7850
04:02:11,585 --> 04:02:11,953
when this was passed.

7851
04:02:11,953 --> 04:02:13,953
Um oh.

7852
04:02:16,230 --> 04:02:16,724
I also want to say feel free if

7853
04:02:16,724 --> 04:02:17,358
you're in the audience if you

7854
04:02:17,358 --> 04:02:18,226
want to stand up or clap.

7855
04:02:18,226 --> 04:02:20,227
Uh, I'm fine with that During

7856
04:02:20,227 --> 04:02:21,940
my time.

7857
04:02:21,940 --> 04:02:24,940
Um, so so the significant

7858
04:02:25,533 --> 04:02:26,233
public outreach But yet today

7859
04:02:26,233 --> 04:02:26,901
if you've watched the director

7860
04:02:26,901 --> 04:02:27,601
of planning the entire time

7861
04:02:27,601 --> 04:02:30,438
she's been on the phone or on

7862
04:02:30,438 --> 04:02:31,138
the computer listening to none

7863
04:02:31,138 --> 04:02:31,739
of what we've had to say.

7864
04:02:31,739 --> 04:02:32,173
Same with the assistant

7865
04:02:32,173 --> 04:02:34,173
director here.

7866
04:02:35,243 --> 04:02:35,776
So or they're out of the out of

7867
04:02:35,776 --> 04:02:37,776
the room completely.

7868
04:02:39,980 --> 04:02:40,781
So you know and some of

7869
04:02:40,781 --> 04:02:44,381
the first comments I hear from

7870
04:02:44,652 --> 04:02:45,353
the council are thanking

7871
04:02:45,353 --> 04:02:48,353
the director and the planning

7872
04:02:48,456 --> 04:02:48,789
department after their comments

7873
04:02:48,789 --> 04:02:49,423
.

7874
04:02:49,423 --> 04:02:50,124
Uh, as another gentleman

7875
04:02:50,124 --> 04:02:53,124
reminded us, the reason we're

7876
04:02:53,627 --> 04:02:54,362
here today is because they

7877
04:02:54,362 --> 04:02:56,362
implemented these requirements.

7878
04:02:58,566 --> 04:02:58,899
Um, so please do not thank them

7879
04:02:58,899 --> 04:02:59,666
.

7880
04:02:59,666 --> 04:03:03,266
Uh, when when your time comes

7881
04:03:03,437 --> 04:03:04,138
to speak um, and I'm generally

7882
04:03:04,138 --> 04:03:04,806
pretty curious how these guys

7883
04:03:04,806 --> 04:03:07,806
still have a job with

7884
04:03:08,976 --> 04:03:09,243
the public backlash that we've

7885
04:03:09,243 --> 04:03:09,877
got.

7886
04:03:09,877 --> 04:03:10,211
So we're facing a housing

7887
04:03:10,211 --> 04:03:12,211
crisis.

7888
04:03:13,481 --> 04:03:14,480
And accessory dwelling units

7889
04:03:14,480 --> 04:03:14,649
ready to use are often

7890
04:03:14,649 --> 04:03:17,490
presented as a solution.

7891
04:03:17,952 --> 04:03:18,553
The current bonus edu program

7892
04:03:18,553 --> 04:03:19,253
if left unchecked risks

7893
04:03:19,253 --> 04:03:19,586
creating more problems than it

7894
04:03:19,586 --> 04:03:21,586
solves.

7895
04:03:23,224 --> 04:03:23,924
Undermining the very idea of

7896
04:03:23,924 --> 04:03:26,924
dignified housing for all and

7897
04:03:27,327 --> 04:03:27,962
violating the spirit of

7898
04:03:27,962 --> 04:03:28,563
California's affirmatively

7899
04:03:28,563 --> 04:03:28,896
furthering fair housing

7900
04:03:28,896 --> 04:03:30,896
mandate.

7901
04:03:32,400 --> 04:03:33,134
fh I want to start by thanking

7902
04:03:33,134 --> 04:03:36,734
the San Diego City Attorney for

7903
04:03:37,438 --> 04:03:38,139
recognizing the importance and

7904
04:03:38,139 --> 04:03:41,139
legal requirement to fh and

7905
04:03:42,110 --> 04:03:42,810
incorporating specific f h

7906
04:03:42,810 --> 04:03:43,310
standards into legal framework

7907
04:03:43,310 --> 04:03:45,710
that we saw today.

7908
04:03:47,347 --> 04:03:47,982
Ensuring that high and highest

7909
04:03:47,982 --> 04:03:48,650
opportunity areas receive

7910
04:03:48,650 --> 04:03:49,250
income restricted affordable

7911
04:03:49,250 --> 04:03:51,250
housing moving forward.

7912
04:03:53,210 --> 04:03:53,621
This is a critical step towards

7913
04:03:53,621 --> 04:03:55,621
dismantling concentrated

7914
04:03:56,357 --> 04:03:57,580
poverty and providing real

7915
04:03:57,580 --> 04:03:57,791
opportunity something that our

7916
04:03:57,791 --> 04:04:00,791
own planning department has not

7917
04:04:01,329 --> 04:04:01,828
been interested in addressing

7918
04:04:01,828 --> 04:04:02,597
until last Friday.

7919
04:04:02,597 --> 04:04:06,197
From the letter from the State

7920
04:04:07,134 --> 04:04:07,802
to truly fulfill the fh mandate

7921
04:04:07,802 --> 04:04:08,469
we must acknowledge that all

7922
04:04:08,469 --> 04:04:11,710
land within the city of San

7923
04:04:11,710 --> 04:04:11,539
Diego must be viewed through

7924
04:04:11,539 --> 04:04:12,340
the lens of fh.

7925
04:04:12,340 --> 04:04:15,340
This means that all zoning

7926
04:04:16,578 --> 04:04:20,178
designations including r x r m

7927
04:04:21,150 --> 04:04:21,683
r s must be considered when

7928
04:04:21,683 --> 04:04:22,183
crafting and implementing fh

7929
04:04:22,183 --> 04:04:24,183
centric policies.

7930
04:04:26,987 --> 04:04:27,689
We cannot cherry pick as we've

7931
04:04:27,689 --> 04:04:30,689
done today for fha compliance

7932
04:04:30,892 --> 04:04:31,326
like the Planning Department

7933
04:04:31,326 --> 04:04:32,600
has done.

7934
04:04:32,600 --> 04:04:35,600
We must have a comprehensive

7935
04:04:35,963 --> 04:04:36,264
approach across the entire city

7936
04:04:36,264 --> 04:04:36,864
.

7937
04:04:36,864 --> 04:04:37,565
Please take note of

7938
04:04:37,565 --> 04:04:38,166
the document that I've got on

7939
04:04:38,166 --> 04:04:41,166
the on the screen there.

7940
04:04:41,736 --> 04:04:42,270
It says This is from sdr

7941
04:04:42,270 --> 04:04:44,270
Investment Profile.

7942
04:04:45,339 --> 04:04:46,700
So this is for their investors

7943
04:04:46,700 --> 04:04:46,608
future investors Traditional

7944
04:04:46,608 --> 04:04:47,342
homeowners assess their

7945
04:04:47,342 --> 04:04:50,342
properties based on values from

7946
04:04:50,878 --> 04:04:51,212
websites such as Redfin or

7947
04:04:51,212 --> 04:04:51,846
Zillow.

7948
04:04:51,846 --> 04:04:53,846
Not realizing development

7949
04:04:56,217 --> 04:04:56,718
potential after this edu craze

7950
04:04:56,718 --> 04:04:57,318
fully catches on.

7951
04:04:57,318 --> 04:04:59,318
Prices will dramatically

7952
04:05:00,588 --> 04:05:01,155
increase as awareness and

7953
04:05:01,155 --> 04:05:01,523
development potential

7954
04:05:01,523 --> 04:05:02,257
increases.

7955
04:05:02,257 --> 04:05:05,857
We have a unique opportunity to

7956
04:05:05,860 --> 04:05:06,561
acquire these properties now

7957
04:05:06,561 --> 04:05:08,961
before homeowner awareness and

7958
04:05:10,899 --> 04:05:11,632
prices jump.

7959
04:05:11,632 --> 04:05:11,967
Well ideas can increase housing

7960
04:05:11,967 --> 04:05:13,967
supply.

7961
04:05:15,937 --> 04:05:16,538
The current bonus program

7962
04:05:16,538 --> 04:05:17,172
designed to incentivize

7963
04:05:17,172 --> 04:05:19,572
affordable units is being

7964
04:05:21,760 --> 04:05:21,676
exploited Working exactly as

7965
04:05:21,676 --> 04:05:22,430
the Planning department

7966
04:05:22,430 --> 04:05:22,677
intended.

7967
04:05:22,677 --> 04:05:25,246
This is not an unintended

7968
04:05:25,246 --> 04:05:25,813
consequence This is intended

7969
04:05:25,813 --> 04:05:26,248
consequence impacting

7970
04:05:26,248 --> 04:05:28,248
neighborhoods

7971
04:05:29,951 --> 04:05:30,552
disproportionately.

7972
04:05:30,552 --> 04:05:31,286
Developers are building

7973
04:05:31,286 --> 04:05:33,286
substandard cheaply constructed

7974
04:05:35,890 --> 04:05:35,723
units often maximizing density

7975
04:05:35,723 --> 04:05:36,358
on single lots straining

7976
04:05:36,358 --> 04:05:38,358
infrastructure like public

7977
04:05:40,362 --> 04:05:40,695
safety, parking, water and

7978
04:05:40,695 --> 04:05:41,296
sewage.

7979
04:05:41,296 --> 04:05:43,296
This unchecked intended

7980
04:05:45,000 --> 04:05:45,700
development is not just

7981
04:05:45,700 --> 04:05:46,368
changing the character of our

7982
04:05:46,368 --> 04:05:46,968
neighborhoods it's creating

7983
04:05:46,968 --> 04:05:49,368
housing that lacks basic

7984
04:05:49,671 --> 04:05:50,338
dignity, cramped spaces, poor

7985
04:05:50,338 --> 04:05:52,338
construction and inadequate

7986
04:05:54,876 --> 04:05:55,610
infrastructure are not

7987
04:05:55,610 --> 04:05:56,211
the building blocks of thriving

7988
04:05:56,211 --> 04:05:58,211
communities Even worse.

7989
04:05:59,747 --> 04:06:00,382
These quote affordable unquote

7990
04:06:00,382 --> 04:06:00,982
bonus adu units are often

7991
04:06:00,982 --> 04:06:03,382
affordable only in name.

7992
04:06:04,786 --> 04:06:05,420
They're constantly adding new

7993
04:06:05,420 --> 04:06:06,121
residents in low resource

7994
04:06:06,121 --> 04:06:08,521
areas, perpetuating cycles of

7995
04:06:09,491 --> 04:06:10,191
poverty and denying

7996
04:06:10,191 --> 04:06:10,691
the opportunity for dignified

7997
04:06:10,691 --> 04:06:11,360
living conditions.

7998
04:06:11,360 --> 04:06:13,360
This concentration directly

7999
04:06:15,630 --> 04:06:15,730
contradicts California's ffo

8000
04:06:15,730 --> 04:06:16,430
mandate which requires us to

8001
04:06:16,430 --> 04:06:18,830
actively dismantle patterns of

8002
04:06:19,935 --> 04:06:20,467
segregation and promote

8003
04:06:20,467 --> 04:06:20,868
equitable access to

8004
04:06:20,868 --> 04:06:22,868
opportunity.

8005
04:06:24,139 --> 04:06:24,872
Concentrated poverty leads to

8006
04:06:24,872 --> 04:06:25,607
poor performing public schools,

8007
04:06:25,607 --> 04:06:28,607
limited access to resources and

8008
04:06:29,211 --> 04:06:29,944
increased crime.

8009
04:06:29,944 --> 04:06:30,445
It creates communities that are

8010
04:06:30,445 --> 04:06:31,790
isolated and lack

8011
04:06:31,790 --> 04:06:31,413
the opportunity needed to

8012
04:06:31,413 --> 04:06:33,413
thrive.

8013
04:06:34,782 --> 04:06:35,283
Dignify right Housing is more

8014
04:06:35,283 --> 04:06:35,850
than just shelter.

8015
04:06:35,850 --> 04:06:38,250
It's a foundation for

8016
04:06:39,354 --> 04:06:40,220
opportunity and a key element

8017
04:06:40,220 --> 04:06:40,622
of filling our obligations.

8018
04:06:40,622 --> 04:06:43,220
The fundamental flaw in

8019
04:06:44,225 --> 04:06:44,992
the Planning Department

8020
04:06:44,992 --> 04:06:45,527
approach has been the disregard

8021
04:06:45,527 --> 04:06:47,927
of the public input.

8022
04:06:49,797 --> 04:06:50,431
Fh Mandate and lack of land

8023
04:06:50,431 --> 04:06:52,831
value capture When raising

8024
04:06:54,803 --> 04:06:55,503
the value of land the bonus edu

8025
04:06:55,503 --> 04:06:56,137
program without mechanisms to

8026
04:06:56,137 --> 04:06:56,437
recoup the increased land

8027
04:06:56,437 --> 04:06:58,437
value.

8028
04:06:59,808 --> 04:07:00,475
As this slide illustrates, is

8029
04:07:00,475 --> 04:07:00,775
driving up prices across San

8030
04:07:00,775 --> 04:07:02,775
Diego.

8031
04:07:05,460 --> 04:07:05,613
This creates a perverse

8032
04:07:05,613 --> 04:07:06,347
incentive or the most

8033
04:07:06,347 --> 04:07:09,347
affordable homes the very homes

8034
04:07:10,184 --> 04:07:10,885
families rely on to build their

8035
04:07:10,885 --> 04:07:13,885
futures are being snatched up

8036
04:07:14,189 --> 04:07:14,756
by for profit investors under

8037
04:07:14,756 --> 04:07:15,423
the bonus edu program.

8038
04:07:15,423 --> 04:07:15,924
The planning department knew

8039
04:07:15,924 --> 04:07:17,924
this would happen.

8040
04:07:19,361 --> 04:07:19,962
This is their design.

8041
04:07:19,962 --> 04:07:20,529
This is a significant

8042
04:07:20,529 --> 04:07:22,529
contributing factor to

8043
04:07:24,299 --> 04:07:24,967
the rising cost of

8044
04:07:24,967 --> 04:07:27,367
homeownership in San Diego.

8045
04:07:28,503 --> 04:07:29,104
The stark reality is this As of

8046
04:07:29,104 --> 04:07:29,738
today there is only one

8047
04:07:29,738 --> 04:07:31,738
thousand 145 single family

8048
04:07:33,642 --> 04:07:37,450
homes listed for sale in San

8049
04:07:37,450 --> 04:07:37,746
Diego on Zillow while

8050
04:07:37,746 --> 04:07:38,380
additional 1666 single family

8051
04:07:38,380 --> 04:07:39,114
homes are listed for rent.

8052
04:07:39,114 --> 04:07:42,114
There are more single family

8053
04:07:42,984 --> 04:07:43,285
homes for rent today than for

8054
04:07:43,285 --> 04:07:45,285
sale.

8055
04:07:46,488 --> 04:07:47,188
Alongside that there's an

8056
04:07:47,188 --> 04:07:47,489
additional 8679 apartments for

8057
04:07:47,489 --> 04:07:49,489
rent.

8058
04:07:52,930 --> 04:07:52,661
This imbalance of ten rentals

8059
04:07:52,661 --> 04:07:53,362
per one home ownership

8060
04:07:53,362 --> 04:07:55,362
opportunity demonstrates that

8061
04:07:56,965 --> 04:07:57,666
the bonus edu program as it

8062
04:07:57,666 --> 04:07:58,300
currently operates is a major

8063
04:07:58,300 --> 04:08:01,300
if not the single greatest

8064
04:08:01,936 --> 04:08:02,605
pressure on increasing in

8065
04:08:02,605 --> 04:08:03,700
single family home prices in

8066
04:08:03,700 --> 04:08:05,700
San Diego today.

8067
04:08:06,908 --> 04:08:07,609
By placing companies like sdr

8068
04:08:07,609 --> 04:08:08,277
again on the screen in direct

8069
04:08:08,277 --> 04:08:10,277
competition with individual

8070
04:08:11,679 --> 04:08:12,381
families seeking to own a home,

8071
04:08:12,381 --> 04:08:15,981
take out a mortgage we cannot

8072
04:08:16,451 --> 04:08:17,850
simply build our way out of

8073
04:08:17,850 --> 04:08:17,786
the housing crisis without

8074
04:08:17,786 --> 04:08:19,786
considering the consequences.

8075
04:08:21,323 --> 04:08:22,230
We need reasonable development

8076
04:08:22,230 --> 04:08:22,691
that prioritizes quality over

8077
04:08:22,691 --> 04:08:25,910
quantity ensuring that every

8078
04:08:26,461 --> 04:08:27,162
San Diego and has access to

8079
04:08:27,162 --> 04:08:27,762
dignified housing and that we

8080
04:08:27,762 --> 04:08:30,162
are actively working to

8081
04:08:30,698 --> 04:08:31,166
dismantle segregation as

8082
04:08:31,166 --> 04:08:31,967
required by fha.

8083
04:08:31,967 --> 04:08:35,437
We need to reform the Bonus to

8084
04:08:35,437 --> 04:08:36,710
You program demanding higher

8085
04:08:36,710 --> 04:08:36,771
standards for construction

8086
04:08:36,771 --> 04:08:37,139
space and access to essential

8087
04:08:37,139 --> 04:08:39,139
services.

8088
04:08:40,809 --> 04:08:41,543
We need to invest in

8089
04:08:41,543 --> 04:08:42,143
infrastructure and resources to

8090
04:08:42,143 --> 04:08:44,143
support all communities

8091
04:08:44,947 --> 04:08:45,614
ensuring equitable access to

8092
04:08:45,614 --> 04:08:46,215
opportunity across our city.

8093
04:08:46,215 --> 04:08:49,215
And we must ensure that

8094
04:08:50,552 --> 04:08:51,252
the city's attorneys fha

8095
04:08:51,252 --> 04:08:51,953
efforts are fully implemented,

8096
04:08:51,953 --> 04:08:54,953
supported and expanded to all

8097
04:08:55,524 --> 04:08:56,258
zoning in the city as we

8098
04:08:56,258 --> 04:08:58,658
recognize that fha implications

8099
04:08:59,827 --> 04:09:00,329
exist across all zoning

8100
04:09:00,329 --> 04:09:00,996
categories.

8101
04:09:00,996 --> 04:09:03,996
Today the city attorney has

8102
04:09:05,670 --> 04:09:05,701
effectively stepped up in place

8103
04:09:05,701 --> 04:09:06,301
of the planning department

8104
04:09:06,301 --> 04:09:08,701
doing the director's job

8105
04:09:09,704 --> 04:09:10,372
recommending to this council a

8106
04:09:10,372 --> 04:09:13,372
plan that leverages the city

8107
04:09:14,442 --> 04:09:15,177
chc and City's research based

8108
04:09:15,177 --> 04:09:18,177
data driven map to incorporate

8109
04:09:19,315 --> 04:09:19,782
efforts affo language into

8110
04:09:19,782 --> 04:09:20,349
legal framework.

8111
04:09:20,349 --> 04:09:21,830
Let's all advocate for

8112
04:09:21,830 --> 04:09:23,483
responsible planning that truly

8113
04:09:23,786 --> 04:09:24,486
benefits all San Diegans not

8114
04:09:24,486 --> 04:09:24,887
just developers, investors and

8115
04:09:24,887 --> 04:09:26,887
politicians.

8116
04:09:29,158 --> 04:09:29,858
Actively promote fair housing

8117
04:09:29,858 --> 04:09:30,659
as mandated by California law.

8118
04:09:30,659 --> 04:09:34,630
Let's commit to building a city

8119
04:09:34,630 --> 04:09:34,729
where everyone has

8120
04:09:34,729 --> 04:09:35,564
the opportunity to live with

8121
04:09:35,564 --> 04:09:39,164
dignity, thrive and to and has

8122
04:09:39,368 --> 04:09:39,702
access for opportunity not just

8123
04:09:39,702 --> 04:09:41,702
survive.

8124
04:09:49,978 --> 04:09:50,295
Please repeal the program page

8125
04:09:50,295 --> 04:09:51,213
.

8126
04:09:51,213 --> 04:09:51,647
>> Well I think I had 20s left

8127
04:09:51,647 --> 04:09:53,647
ten 20s left.

8128
04:09:53,782 --> 04:09:54,449
You can proceed.

8129
04:09:54,449 --> 04:09:54,817
Thank you guys And keep

8130
04:09:54,817 --> 04:09:56,817
clapping.

8131
04:09:59,121 --> 04:09:59,822
And notice that Sean Rivera has

8132
04:09:59,822 --> 04:10:00,222
been absent for about half of

8133
04:10:00,222 --> 04:10:02,222
the meeting.

8134
04:10:03,893 --> 04:10:04,192
Won't make eye contact with me

8135
04:10:04,192 --> 04:10:05,260
.

8136
04:10:05,260 --> 04:10:05,661
I Vivian I see you there too.

8137
04:10:05,661 --> 04:10:08,661
It's nice when the council

8138
04:10:08,897 --> 04:10:09,197
participates in the public

8139
04:10:09,197 --> 04:10:10,980
input.

8140
04:10:10,980 --> 04:10:10,699
It takes a lot out of our time

8141
04:10:10,699 --> 04:10:11,660
and effort to get here.

8142
04:10:11,660 --> 04:10:13,660
All right.

8143
04:10:13,468 --> 04:10:14,360
A lot of us have to leave work

8144
04:10:14,360 --> 04:10:14,336
early, take days off.

8145
04:10:14,336 --> 04:10:15,370
Right.

8146
04:10:15,370 --> 04:10:18,240
And to be here and be

8147
04:10:18,240 --> 04:10:19,108
disrespected in that regard.

8148
04:10:19,108 --> 04:10:19,442
>> Just shows why we are where

8149
04:10:19,442 --> 04:10:21,442
we are.

8150
04:10:23,279 --> 04:10:25,279
Thanks.

8151
04:10:31,253 --> 04:10:31,787
Sage Gonzalez Walden.

8152
04:10:31,787 --> 04:10:32,521
Mandi Havoc.

8153
04:10:32,521 --> 04:10:36,121
I can also ask Eric Becerra.

8154
04:10:36,291 --> 04:10:36,925
Andrea Ebbing Susan Ward Lewis

8155
04:10:36,925 --> 04:10:39,325
Stewart or Louise Stewart.

8156
04:10:41,196 --> 04:10:42,640
Sharon Gill and Tiago Battista

8157
04:10:42,640 --> 04:10:45,567
to please come up to the front

8158
04:10:45,567 --> 04:10:45,868
row.

8159
04:10:45,868 --> 04:10:46,268
Mandy.

8160
04:10:46,268 --> 04:10:48,268
Oh you're.

8161
04:10:50,305 --> 04:10:51,730
Sorry.

8162
04:10:51,730 --> 04:10:51,373
You have people sitting in your

8163
04:10:51,373 --> 04:10:52,108
time.

8164
04:10:52,108 --> 04:10:52,575
Angela Better if you can please

8165
04:10:52,575 --> 04:10:52,941
raise your hand.

8166
04:10:52,941 --> 04:10:54,941
Thank you.

8167
04:10:55,744 --> 04:10:56,145
Michael Gilliam.

8168
04:10:56,145 --> 04:10:58,145
Yep.

8169
04:10:59,448 --> 04:10:59,915
And Bob Daniel.

8170
04:10:59,915 --> 04:11:00,316
Thank you.

8171
04:11:00,316 --> 04:11:02,316
You'll have.

8172
04:11:05,200 --> 04:11:05,354
Oh Oh and Angela better areas

8173
04:11:05,354 --> 04:11:05,821
of the.

8174
04:11:05,821 --> 04:11:07,821
All right.

8175
04:11:08,824 --> 04:11:09,292
That's four minutes.

8176
04:11:09,292 --> 04:11:09,659
Please proceed.

8177
04:11:09,659 --> 04:11:10,920
Thank you.

8178
04:11:10,920 --> 04:11:10,793
Good evening.

8179
04:11:10,793 --> 04:11:11,127
Council PRESIDENT And council

8180
04:11:11,127 --> 04:11:13,127
members.

8181
04:11:13,896 --> 04:11:14,530
Thank you for your service.

8182
04:11:14,530 --> 04:11:15,230
My name is Mandy Harb.

8183
04:11:15,230 --> 04:11:15,865
Like I'm the first vice chair

8184
04:11:15,865 --> 04:11:18,265
of the Peninsula Community

8185
04:11:18,934 --> 04:11:19,868
planning Board.

8186
04:11:19,868 --> 04:11:20,570
And I speak on behalf on behalf

8187
04:11:20,570 --> 04:11:23,773
of our board and our community

8188
04:11:23,773 --> 04:11:24,440
to express our strong

8189
04:11:24,440 --> 04:11:25,141
opposition to the abuse of

8190
04:11:25,141 --> 04:11:28,141
the adu bonus density program

8191
04:11:29,579 --> 04:11:30,313
and to voice their support for

8192
04:11:30,313 --> 04:11:33,313
the reform proposals as brought

8193
04:11:33,949 --> 04:11:34,550
forward by the community

8194
04:11:34,550 --> 04:11:35,384
Planners Committee cpc.

8195
04:11:35,384 --> 04:11:38,621
First, we urge the Council to

8196
04:11:38,621 --> 04:11:39,321
process the majority of

8197
04:11:39,321 --> 04:11:39,989
the proposed adu and Bonus adu

8198
04:11:39,989 --> 04:11:42,389
program revisions through a

8199
04:11:43,694 --> 04:11:44,426
full code update and process to

8200
04:11:44,426 --> 04:11:46,826
ensure meaningful public input.

8201
04:11:48,797 --> 04:11:49,465
While we understand that some

8202
04:11:49,465 --> 04:11:50,166
urgent changes MAY require a

8203
04:11:50,166 --> 04:11:52,566
shorter timeline, most should

8204
04:11:53,770 --> 04:11:54,103
not bypass proper community

8205
04:11:54,103 --> 04:11:54,937
review.

8206
04:11:54,937 --> 04:11:57,937
We report we support sunsetting

8207
04:12:00,309 --> 04:12:02,211
the bonus edu program in our as

8208
04:12:02,211 --> 04:12:02,945
one hour and one at our m two

8209
04:12:02,945 --> 04:12:03,645
zones by the end of the current

8210
04:12:03,645 --> 04:12:06,450
housing element cycle in 2029.

8211
04:12:07,383 --> 04:12:08,830
This provides a reasonable time

8212
04:12:08,830 --> 04:12:11,830
frame that protects the city's

8213
04:12:11,921 --> 04:12:12,588
housing element Compliance

8214
04:12:12,588 --> 04:12:13,288
while allowing a structured

8215
04:12:13,288 --> 04:12:13,956
rollback of a harmful program

8216
04:12:13,956 --> 04:12:16,356
that was implemented without

8217
04:12:16,492 --> 04:12:17,126
adequate community engagement.

8218
04:12:17,126 --> 04:12:19,126
>> We support prohibiting

8219
04:12:21,364 --> 04:12:22,231
the short term vacation rentals

8220
04:12:22,231 --> 04:12:22,932
on any parcel that was built a

8221
04:12:22,932 --> 04:12:26,532
part of the bonus or state

8222
04:12:27,103 --> 04:12:30,103
allowed edu and in the 92107

8223
04:12:30,572 --> 04:12:31,374
zip code my neighborhood almost

8224
04:12:31,374 --> 04:12:31,874
10% of those units are for

8225
04:12:31,874 --> 04:12:32,541
vacation rentals.

8226
04:12:32,541 --> 04:12:35,541
Do we have an affordable

8227
04:12:36,245 --> 04:12:37,180
housing crisis or do we not?

8228
04:12:37,180 --> 04:12:40,180
>> These units should be part

8229
04:12:41,250 --> 04:12:41,917
of the long term housing plan

8230
04:12:41,917 --> 04:12:42,251
and not fueling the tourism

8231
04:12:42,251 --> 04:12:44,251
market.

8232
04:12:45,455 --> 04:12:46,880
So we also want to support

8233
04:12:46,880 --> 04:12:48,488
restoring the setbacks and

8234
04:12:48,992 --> 04:12:49,625
the height limits to the state

8235
04:12:49,625 --> 04:12:50,292
Standard zero setbacks and

8236
04:12:50,292 --> 04:12:52,692
backyard adu towers destroy

8237
04:12:54,230 --> 04:12:54,898
the privacy and disrupt

8238
04:12:54,898 --> 04:12:55,331
the character of established

8239
04:12:55,331 --> 04:12:55,964
neighborhoods.

8240
04:12:55,964 --> 04:12:58,964
Another thing is the urban

8241
04:12:59,869 --> 04:13:00,603
forestry is in the setbacks and

8242
04:13:00,603 --> 04:13:03,603
the backyards of our community.

8243
04:13:04,374 --> 04:13:04,974
This will greatly impact

8244
04:13:04,974 --> 04:13:05,341
the tree canopy of our

8245
04:13:05,341 --> 04:13:05,908
community.

8246
04:13:05,908 --> 04:13:06,576
>> We strongly oppose

8247
04:13:06,576 --> 04:13:09,576
the city's proposal to allow

8248
04:13:10,246 --> 04:13:10,746
joint ideas to be rented for

8249
04:13:10,746 --> 04:13:11,413
less than 31 days.

8250
04:13:11,413 --> 04:13:13,813
That undermines the very

8251
04:13:14,917 --> 04:13:15,652
justification for the program

8252
04:13:15,652 --> 04:13:17,652
Expanding Housing affordability

8253
04:13:20,223 --> 04:13:20,890
California law does not prevent

8254
04:13:20,890 --> 04:13:23,890
the city from requiring a 31

8255
04:13:24,127 --> 04:13:24,827
day minimum rental return and

8256
04:13:24,827 --> 04:13:25,194
the city should maintain that

8257
04:13:25,194 --> 04:13:27,194
standard.

8258
04:13:29,265 --> 04:13:29,932
>> We also oppose allowing

8259
04:13:29,932 --> 04:13:30,600
the adu to exceed the floor

8260
04:13:30,600 --> 04:13:31,000
area ratio limits up to 1200

8261
04:13:31,000 --> 04:13:33,000
square feet.

8262
04:13:34,537 --> 04:13:35,204
This undermines zoning

8263
04:13:35,204 --> 04:13:35,637
integrity and contributes to

8264
04:13:35,637 --> 04:13:37,637
overbuilding.

8265
04:13:39,308 --> 04:13:39,942
We are especially concerned

8266
04:13:39,942 --> 04:13:40,576
about how the sustainable

8267
04:13:40,576 --> 04:13:40,910
development area is being

8268
04:13:40,910 --> 04:13:42,910
defined.

8269
04:13:44,880 --> 04:13:45,615
The current definition is based

8270
04:13:45,615 --> 04:13:48,785
on a one mile future transit

8271
04:13:48,785 --> 04:13:49,151
watershed much of which is

8272
04:13:49,151 --> 04:13:49,854
unfunded.

8273
04:13:49,854 --> 04:13:50,219
It's unfunded and it MAY never

8274
04:13:50,219 --> 04:13:52,219
be built.

8275
04:13:54,390 --> 04:13:57,990
We urge the City Council to

8276
04:13:58,194 --> 04:13:58,861
revise the sga to a one half

8277
04:13:58,861 --> 04:13:59,595
mile walking distance and to

8278
04:13:59,595 --> 04:14:02,595
only include transit stops that

8279
04:14:03,233 --> 04:14:03,933
are either currently in

8280
04:14:03,933 --> 04:14:06,933
operation or fully funded for

8281
04:14:07,437 --> 04:14:08,171
completion within five years.

8282
04:14:08,171 --> 04:14:11,171
The Peninsula community we do

8283
04:14:12,341 --> 04:14:13,143
support affordable housing but

8284
04:14:13,143 --> 04:14:13,877
this program as it stands is

8285
04:14:13,877 --> 04:14:14,343
overreaching and is harming our

8286
04:14:14,343 --> 04:14:16,343
infrastructure.

8287
04:14:18,114 --> 04:14:18,581
Our neighbors roads and our

8288
04:14:18,581 --> 04:14:19,649
quality of life.

8289
04:14:19,649 --> 04:14:22,985
We can see a stress on our our

8290
04:14:22,985 --> 04:14:23,686
streets, our water mains, our

8291
04:14:23,686 --> 04:14:24,287
sewer lines and our electrical

8292
04:14:24,287 --> 04:14:26,687
systems that were never

8293
04:14:28,224 --> 04:14:28,557
designed for this type of

8294
04:14:28,557 --> 04:14:29,292
growth.

8295
04:14:29,292 --> 04:14:29,959
We're putting our neighborhoods

8296
04:14:29,959 --> 04:14:32,262
at real risk by pushing them

8297
04:14:32,262 --> 04:14:33,290
beyond their capacity.

8298
04:14:33,290 --> 04:14:36,290
>> We respectfully ask you just

8299
04:14:37,300 --> 04:14:38,167
to listen to us.

8300
04:14:38,167 --> 04:14:38,735
We're all here on our own time.

8301
04:14:38,735 --> 04:14:39,336
We are frustrated by

8302
04:14:39,336 --> 04:14:41,336
the current development

8303
04:14:42,905 --> 04:14:43,639
strategy and we ask that you

8304
04:14:43,639 --> 04:14:46,639
listen to your constituents and

8305
04:14:47,577 --> 04:14:48,277
to adopt the cpc recommendation

8306
04:14:48,277 --> 04:14:49,110
and protect our neighborhoods

8307
04:14:49,110 --> 04:14:51,411
from overdevelopment and ensure

8308
04:14:51,848 --> 04:14:52,482
that major changes go through a

8309
04:14:52,482 --> 04:14:52,881
full public code update in

8310
04:14:52,881 --> 04:14:53,316
the future.

8311
04:14:53,316 --> 04:14:55,316
>> Thank you.

8312
04:14:55,684 --> 04:14:57,684
Thank you.

8313
04:15:01,524 --> 04:15:02,225
Next we have Erika Bezerra.

8314
04:15:02,225 --> 04:15:02,959
Erick, you have people sitting

8315
04:15:02,959 --> 04:15:03,460
in your time if they can please

8316
04:15:03,460 --> 04:15:05,195
raise their hand.

8317
04:15:05,195 --> 04:15:07,195
Catalina, etc..

8318
04:15:10,266 --> 04:15:10,633
Zephaniah Brandon Kenya and

8319
04:15:10,633 --> 04:15:11,000
Epiphany.

8320
04:15:11,000 --> 04:15:13,000
Thank you.

8321
04:15:15,872 --> 04:15:16,339
You'll have six minutes.

8322
04:15:16,339 --> 04:15:17,173
Please proceed.

8323
04:15:17,173 --> 04:15:19,943
I came oh one of my minutes is

8324
04:15:19,943 --> 04:15:20,610
going to be in Spanish so can I

8325
04:15:20,610 --> 04:15:21,211
translate for myself and get

8326
04:15:21,211 --> 04:15:23,211
that additional minute?

8327
04:15:24,981 --> 04:15:25,314
>> I'm going to translate for

8328
04:15:25,314 --> 04:15:25,982
myself.

8329
04:15:25,982 --> 04:15:28,982
>> If you can translate for

8330
04:15:29,919 --> 04:15:30,319
yourself then it's not a

8331
04:15:30,319 --> 04:15:30,853
translation.

8332
04:15:30,853 --> 04:15:31,554
It's a translation.

8333
04:15:31,554 --> 04:15:33,623
Can you translate for a minute

8334
04:15:33,623 --> 04:15:34,658
for me please?

8335
04:15:34,658 --> 04:15:37,658
>> We will start your timer

8336
04:15:39,662 --> 04:15:40,530
please proceed.

8337
04:15:40,530 --> 04:15:41,131
>> My name is Eric Sarah and

8338
04:15:41,131 --> 04:15:43,531
I'm from district four.

8339
04:15:44,434 --> 04:15:45,201
Now I came straight from work

8340
04:15:45,201 --> 04:15:45,835
so I don't have my shirts but I

8341
04:15:45,835 --> 04:15:46,136
do have my Superman cape,

8342
04:15:46,136 --> 04:15:48,136
right?

8343
04:15:48,738 --> 04:15:49,373
I want I want to thank our

8344
04:15:49,373 --> 04:15:49,672
neighbors for a better San

8345
04:15:49,672 --> 04:15:51,672
Diego.

8346
04:15:53,511 --> 04:15:54,177
I feel very, very sorry that

8347
04:15:54,177 --> 04:15:54,577
nobody listened to them for

8348
04:15:54,577 --> 04:15:56,577
four years.

8349
04:15:58,648 --> 04:15:59,349
I want to thank them for

8350
04:15:59,349 --> 04:16:02,349
telling Encanto Thank you for

8351
04:16:03,119 --> 04:16:03,619
us rising for for them to be

8352
04:16:03,619 --> 04:16:04,287
heard for years.

8353
04:16:04,287 --> 04:16:06,687
That is unacceptable, guys.

8354
04:16:08,725 --> 04:16:09,459
Thank you, MR. Henry Foster.

8355
04:16:09,459 --> 04:16:10,160
He made the motion right.

8356
04:16:10,160 --> 04:16:12,529
Where were the other motions?

8357
04:16:12,529 --> 04:16:12,829
Where were the other motions,

8358
04:16:12,829 --> 04:16:13,463
guys?

8359
04:16:13,463 --> 04:16:14,197
It was something that that

8360
04:16:14,197 --> 04:16:17,797
should have been done a long

8361
04:16:17,967 --> 04:16:18,769
time ago before MR. Foster did

8362
04:16:18,769 --> 04:16:21,972
that motion And and there was a

8363
04:16:21,972 --> 04:16:22,573
lot of pressure on Father's Day

8364
04:16:22,573 --> 04:16:23,239
my wife and I walked

8365
04:16:23,239 --> 04:16:25,639
the neighborhood once again.

8366
04:16:27,311 --> 04:16:28,440
We are expanding from Encanto.

8367
04:16:28,440 --> 04:16:31,644
We were in the Skyline area

8368
04:16:32,682 --> 04:16:33,350
informing other people of of

8369
04:16:33,350 --> 04:16:34,150
the 80 use that are coming.

8370
04:16:34,150 --> 04:16:36,519
MR. Foster I know you're aware

8371
04:16:36,519 --> 04:16:37,220
but there already building We

8372
04:16:37,220 --> 04:16:40,220
took pictures and and people

8373
04:16:41,658 --> 04:16:42,426
still don't know what's going

8374
04:16:42,426 --> 04:16:43,126
on So this is just the tip of

8375
04:16:43,126 --> 04:16:46,329
the iceberg of what's going to

8376
04:16:46,329 --> 04:16:46,963
happen with the with

8377
04:16:46,963 --> 04:16:47,598
the coalition with the San

8378
04:16:47,598 --> 04:16:47,898
Diego Coalition of Voters.

8379
04:16:47,898 --> 04:16:48,598
Right.

8380
04:16:48,598 --> 04:16:52,102
When you look at the slips for

8381
04:16:52,102 --> 04:16:52,802
and against, look who's going

8382
04:16:52,802 --> 04:16:53,470
to vote for you Look look for

8383
04:16:53,470 --> 04:16:53,770
who's going to vote for you.

8384
04:16:53,770 --> 04:16:55,770
Right?

8385
04:16:58,410 --> 04:16:58,575
So it's something that we feel

8386
04:16:58,575 --> 04:16:59,275
like we have to do.

8387
04:16:59,275 --> 04:17:00,210
Why do we have to do it?

8388
04:17:00,210 --> 04:17:02,680
They wish for a better San

8389
04:17:02,680 --> 04:17:03,313
Diego look at how much work

8390
04:17:03,313 --> 04:17:03,847
they put into it And other

8391
04:17:03,847 --> 04:17:05,782
neighbors like MS..

8392
04:17:05,782 --> 04:17:06,583
Pam all the all the information

8393
04:17:06,583 --> 04:17:07,250
that they give you guys you

8394
04:17:07,250 --> 04:17:07,951
guys have staffers that are

8395
04:17:07,951 --> 04:17:10,351
doing this information because

8396
04:17:11,154 --> 04:17:11,621
we're finding all this

8397
04:17:11,621 --> 04:17:12,323
information out.

8398
04:17:12,323 --> 04:17:15,323
>> I've only known about this

8399
04:17:16,226 --> 04:17:16,860
stuff since the month

8400
04:17:16,860 --> 04:17:17,527
the beginning of the year

8401
04:17:17,527 --> 04:17:17,894
thanks to my neighbor Tiago

8402
04:17:17,894 --> 04:17:19,894
back here.

8403
04:17:20,897 --> 04:17:21,598
So it is sad when we start

8404
04:17:21,598 --> 04:17:24,598
digging and going Don't don't

8405
04:17:25,635 --> 04:17:26,336
they know Don't you guys know

8406
04:17:26,336 --> 04:17:26,970
the owner Council members know

8407
04:17:26,970 --> 04:17:30,570
now you guys when you guys

8408
04:17:31,700 --> 04:17:31,441
decided to run, what were you

8409
04:17:31,441 --> 04:17:32,108
guys thinking?

8410
04:17:32,108 --> 04:17:32,842
I'm going to run because I'm

8411
04:17:32,842 --> 04:17:34,945
going to make San Diego better.

8412
04:17:34,945 --> 04:17:35,646
I'm going to run because I'm

8413
04:17:35,646 --> 04:17:36,313
going to listen to my voters.

8414
04:17:36,313 --> 04:17:37,147
I'm going to run because I'm

8415
04:17:37,147 --> 04:17:39,683
going to take care of my

8416
04:17:39,683 --> 04:17:39,983
constituency.

8417
04:17:39,983 --> 04:17:40,751
Right?

8418
04:17:40,751 --> 04:17:41,184
I mean that's what I would

8419
04:17:41,184 --> 04:17:41,818
assume, right?

8420
04:17:41,818 --> 04:17:45,418
I mean I would you know,

8421
04:17:45,522 --> 04:17:46,256
anybody running that's what I

8422
04:17:46,256 --> 04:17:46,590
think probably goes to you guys

8423
04:17:46,590 --> 04:17:47,124
is mine.

8424
04:17:47,124 --> 04:17:50,124
I can make a change.

8425
04:17:50,527 --> 04:17:51,161
But this is tarnishing Diego

8426
04:17:51,161 --> 04:17:51,862
just like they should All

8427
04:17:51,862 --> 04:17:55,132
the dots of all these new use

8428
04:17:55,132 --> 04:17:55,899
It's like the plague, right?

8429
04:17:55,899 --> 04:17:56,500
So we have to push back.

8430
04:17:56,500 --> 04:17:57,330
We have to push back.

8431
04:17:57,330 --> 04:17:59,433
We are the medicine.

8432
04:18:00,136 --> 04:18:00,470
We are going to push back right

8433
04:18:00,470 --> 04:18:01,338
?

8434
04:18:01,338 --> 04:18:01,705
So we are we are going to

8435
04:18:01,705 --> 04:18:02,406
continue.

8436
04:18:02,406 --> 04:18:05,406
I started going to Vivian

8437
04:18:05,976 --> 04:18:06,610
Moreno's district and I'm going

8438
04:18:06,610 --> 04:18:09,610
to start in that district.

8439
04:18:10,814 --> 04:18:11,515
I remember dancing to Aztec

8440
04:18:11,515 --> 04:18:14,515
dancing right there at Barrio

8441
04:18:15,118 --> 04:18:15,719
Logan Right Chunky such as this

8442
04:18:15,719 --> 04:18:16,220
house is still flooded.

8443
04:18:16,220 --> 04:18:16,820
It's still got it.

8444
04:18:16,820 --> 04:18:19,820
I spoke to the community

8445
04:18:19,823 --> 04:18:20,224
planning there It is

8446
04:18:20,224 --> 04:18:20,790
embarrassed.

8447
04:18:20,790 --> 04:18:21,124
What's going on guys?

8448
04:18:21,124 --> 04:18:21,792
Come on.

8449
04:18:21,792 --> 04:18:24,792
Neighbors for a better San

8450
04:18:24,828 --> 04:18:25,195
Diego has done all this

8451
04:18:25,195 --> 04:18:25,829
homework.

8452
04:18:25,829 --> 04:18:26,596
Are you guys listening Now

8453
04:18:26,596 --> 04:18:30,660
the other thing I want to say

8454
04:18:30,660 --> 04:18:30,767
congratulation to the planning

8455
04:18:30,767 --> 04:18:33,767
department for being on plan.

8456
04:18:34,437 --> 04:18:34,905
Congrats.

8457
04:18:34,905 --> 04:18:35,539
Congratulations.

8458
04:18:35,539 --> 04:18:38,539
I was during the planning

8459
04:18:39,509 --> 04:18:40,177
department there argue you keep

8460
04:18:40,177 --> 04:18:40,811
the planning department was

8461
04:18:40,811 --> 04:18:43,180
arguing about the hype How

8462
04:18:43,180 --> 04:18:44,148
about if the house is one story

8463
04:18:44,148 --> 04:18:46,883
then be 80 use or one story in

8464
04:18:46,883 --> 04:18:47,584
the houses two stories then

8465
04:18:47,584 --> 04:18:48,118
maybe the 80 user two stories

8466
04:18:48,118 --> 04:18:48,752
because they fit in

8467
04:18:48,752 --> 04:18:51,152
the landscape right Trees

8468
04:18:51,255 --> 04:18:51,555
everything that's going on

8469
04:18:51,555 --> 04:18:52,222
guys.

8470
04:18:52,222 --> 04:18:54,622
The planning department were

8471
04:18:56,930 --> 04:18:56,894
arguing about the silliest

8472
04:18:56,894 --> 04:19:00,494
things they were supposed to be

8473
04:19:02,650 --> 04:19:02,766
our planning department.

8474
04:19:02,766 --> 04:19:03,500
Well the things the plan I

8475
04:19:03,500 --> 04:19:06,470
don't see things that look very

8476
04:19:06,470 --> 04:19:07,137
planned at all And the lawsuits

8477
04:19:07,137 --> 04:19:07,838
are probably going to start

8478
04:19:07,838 --> 04:19:10,574
with the sewers problems going

8479
04:19:10,574 --> 04:19:11,441
on.

8480
04:19:11,441 --> 04:19:12,143
I mean this is just the tip of

8481
04:19:12,143 --> 04:19:15,545
the iceberg of what's going to

8482
04:19:15,545 --> 04:19:16,414
happen once some of these users

8483
04:19:16,414 --> 04:19:17,214
are going to go for sale and

8484
04:19:17,214 --> 04:19:20,684
the problems that are going to

8485
04:19:20,684 --> 04:19:21,485
happen.

8486
04:19:21,485 --> 04:19:22,152
When I was on the phone when

8487
04:19:22,152 --> 04:19:22,786
you guys were talking about

8488
04:19:22,786 --> 04:19:25,786
the cuts Right and talking

8489
04:19:25,956 --> 04:19:26,590
about the police and they were

8490
04:19:26,590 --> 04:19:29,590
arguing about oh, you know

8491
04:19:29,760 --> 04:19:30,461
what, if you call police

8492
04:19:30,461 --> 04:19:30,928
they'll be there in 50 minutes

8493
04:19:30,928 --> 04:19:31,529
and then cancel.

8494
04:19:31,529 --> 04:19:33,864
When my wife called for

8495
04:19:33,864 --> 04:19:34,365
the police they put on hold and

8496
04:19:34,365 --> 04:19:36,365
it was 45 minutes.

8497
04:19:37,735 --> 04:19:38,536
So just imagine with all these

8498
04:19:38,536 --> 04:19:39,103
80 use the response time What's

8499
04:19:39,103 --> 04:19:41,503
going to happen guys?

8500
04:19:42,873 --> 04:19:43,307
What's going to happen now It

8501
04:19:43,307 --> 04:19:45,307
is super sad.

8502
04:19:46,776 --> 04:19:47,478
My wife is not here but she is

8503
04:19:47,478 --> 04:19:50,478
lady Four words matter right?

8504
04:19:52,249 --> 04:19:52,949
Words do matter And we are

8505
04:19:52,949 --> 04:19:53,717
these are my kids right here

8506
04:19:53,717 --> 04:19:57,317
And I commend them for even

8507
04:19:57,621 --> 04:19:58,289
saying guys, it's Father's Day.

8508
04:19:58,289 --> 04:19:58,789
We went out to eat.

8509
04:19:58,789 --> 04:19:59,657
But you know what?

8510
04:19:59,657 --> 04:20:02,192
Your mom and I have to go and

8511
04:20:02,192 --> 04:20:02,993
knock on doors.

8512
04:20:02,993 --> 04:20:03,327
They've gone to knock on doors

8513
04:20:03,327 --> 04:20:04,610
with us.

8514
04:20:04,610 --> 04:20:06,697
They've gone out there to knock

8515
04:20:06,697 --> 04:20:07,464
on doors with us so they can

8516
04:20:07,464 --> 04:20:07,931
know what it is to fight for

8517
04:20:07,931 --> 04:20:08,232
your community.

8518
04:20:08,232 --> 04:20:10,232
Right?

8519
04:20:11,936 --> 04:20:12,637
So so I commend my kids I

8520
04:20:12,637 --> 04:20:13,103
commend neighbors for a better

8521
04:20:13,103 --> 04:20:13,837
San Diego Right.

8522
04:20:13,837 --> 04:20:18,370
If you guys want to know what

8523
04:20:18,750 --> 04:20:18,609
political suicide just look at

8524
04:20:18,609 --> 04:20:20,609
the mayor's website.

8525
04:20:21,678 --> 04:20:22,790
Look who's supporting him.

8526
04:20:22,790 --> 04:20:22,646
Right?

8527
04:20:22,646 --> 04:20:23,213
Look, I support him.

8528
04:20:23,213 --> 04:20:25,213
It is devastating.

8529
04:20:27,850 --> 04:20:27,785
You know, I wish I could I

8530
04:20:27,785 --> 04:20:28,519
could I could have had a great

8531
04:20:28,519 --> 04:20:31,655
Father's Day with my family but

8532
04:20:31,655 --> 04:20:32,523
no, we're knocking on doors.

8533
04:20:32,523 --> 04:20:32,923
Let me know when my minute is

8534
04:20:32,923 --> 04:20:34,923
for Spanish.

8535
04:20:36,227 --> 04:20:36,560
So you're going to have four

8536
04:20:36,560 --> 04:20:37,195
seconds.

8537
04:20:37,195 --> 04:20:37,895
>> You get one minute for

8538
04:20:37,895 --> 04:20:41,495
Spanish and one in English and

8539
04:20:43,901 --> 04:20:44,234
I'll translate to empathize to

8540
04:20:44,234 --> 04:20:44,602
get ask.

8541
04:20:44,602 --> 04:20:45,302
>> Yes.

8542
04:20:45,302 --> 04:20:48,302
You know these are immigrants.

8543
04:20:48,739 --> 04:20:49,507
This is this is for you see

8544
04:20:49,507 --> 04:20:50,474
they have a lot of an Francisco

8545
04:20:50,474 --> 04:20:53,474
That's what I requirement But

8546
04:20:54,812 --> 04:20:55,513
Viviana moreno this is for you

8547
04:20:55,513 --> 04:20:56,213
please start I was very

8548
04:20:56,213 --> 04:20:59,213
disappointed in the way you

8549
04:21:01,385 --> 04:21:05,423
voted or you want me to trim.

8550
04:21:05,423 --> 04:21:06,123
>> I could do it to Estavam We

8551
04:21:06,123 --> 04:21:09,123
listen to another the Como

8552
04:21:10,360 --> 04:21:11,950
voters This is very

8553
04:21:11,950 --> 04:21:12,960
disappointed in how you voted.

8554
04:21:12,960 --> 04:21:15,432
>> Oh I thought I You speak

8555
04:21:15,432 --> 04:21:15,733
Spanish I translate to English.

8556
04:21:15,733 --> 04:21:17,733
Okay.

8557
04:21:19,370 --> 04:21:20,171
Because if you're going to talk

8558
04:21:20,171 --> 04:21:20,504
to her in English she knows

8559
04:21:20,504 --> 04:21:21,239
English.

8560
04:21:21,239 --> 04:21:21,739
>> I don't need to translate it

8561
04:21:21,739 --> 04:21:24,139
to her in Spanish.

8562
04:21:24,642 --> 04:21:25,143
Well, sometimes I don't think

8563
04:21:25,143 --> 04:21:25,609
she could tell.

8564
04:21:25,609 --> 04:21:26,100
>> I'm sorry.

8565
04:21:26,100 --> 04:21:28,100
Here goes.

8566
04:21:29,280 --> 04:21:29,713
I apologize.

8567
04:21:29,713 --> 04:21:30,114
I apologize.

8568
04:21:30,114 --> 04:21:31,150
I apologize.

8569
04:21:31,150 --> 04:21:35,215
I'm going to do Spanish And you

8570
04:21:35,453 --> 04:21:35,986
do English.

8571
04:21:35,986 --> 04:21:36,318
>> Please proceed.

8572
04:21:36,318 --> 04:21:38,318
Okay.

8573
04:21:39,560 --> 04:21:39,457
Do do MRS. La Unica care.

8574
04:21:39,457 --> 04:21:40,224
What's this?

8575
04:21:40,224 --> 04:21:43,824
You were the only one that

8576
04:21:45,129 --> 04:21:45,796
voted in Obviously is not

8577
04:21:45,796 --> 04:21:48,796
normal or not anything wrong

8578
04:21:50,267 --> 04:21:50,935
Call those use with the 80 you

8579
04:21:50,935 --> 04:21:52,870
do The cases can also trust

8580
04:21:52,870 --> 04:21:53,437
behemoth Las Casas Viviendo

8581
04:21:53,437 --> 04:21:54,104
vendors You said that

8582
04:21:54,104 --> 04:21:57,104
the houses weren't homes or

8583
04:21:58,843 --> 04:21:59,810
weren't livable Safe way to

8584
04:21:59,810 --> 04:22:03,981
escape but not and there is a

8585
04:22:03,981 --> 04:22:04,682
response I believe that they

8586
04:22:04,682 --> 04:22:05,350
would come over to us That was

8587
04:22:05,350 --> 04:22:08,950
your escape in order to not

8588
04:22:10,221 --> 04:22:10,522
have a reason for how you

8589
04:22:10,522 --> 04:22:11,322
voted.

8590
04:22:11,322 --> 04:22:13,391
>> See two of us own over

8591
04:22:13,391 --> 04:22:14,920
quarter near the prison Your

8592
04:22:14,920 --> 04:22:14,559
skinny He's this good

8593
04:22:14,559 --> 04:22:15,526
The recall, huh?

8594
04:22:15,526 --> 04:22:17,829
>> If you call for an Uber for

8595
04:22:17,829 --> 04:22:18,629
your daughter of three years

8596
04:22:18,629 --> 04:22:22,667
old to pick you up you're going

8597
04:22:22,667 --> 04:22:23,434
to rock on consumers Una siento

8598
04:22:23,434 --> 04:22:27,634
And it comes with a car with

8599
04:22:28,639 --> 04:22:29,506
only one seat it to these this

8600
04:22:29,506 --> 04:22:30,207
pair opened with opener me in i

8601
04:22:30,207 --> 04:22:34,407
stick roll but I can't put my

8602
04:22:34,812 --> 04:22:35,413
daughter in this car working on

8603
04:22:35,413 --> 04:22:37,148
espacio and my own local

8604
04:22:37,148 --> 04:22:38,150
presence so as you enter ninos

8605
04:22:38,150 --> 04:22:38,783
because there is room for a car

8606
04:22:38,783 --> 04:22:41,783
seat El manager Autoris\ and

8607
04:22:41,819 --> 04:22:42,420
the driver says Bibiana Moreno

8608
04:22:42,420 --> 04:22:44,420
says transportation is

8609
04:22:47,570 --> 04:22:47,858
transportation Maybe Viviane

8610
04:22:47,858 --> 04:22:50,258
Moreno says transportation is

8611
04:22:51,429 --> 04:22:52,630
transportation Get three person

8612
04:22:52,630 --> 04:22:54,463
Beatriz There's a sadness

8613
04:22:54,601 --> 04:22:55,466
Michael Or the people My color

8614
04:22:55,466 --> 04:22:59,666
of my skin is called Moreno is

8615
04:23:00,271 --> 04:23:00,973
called Moreno And your last

8616
04:23:00,973 --> 04:23:04,573
name is Moreno and your last

8617
04:23:05,977 --> 04:23:06,710
name is Moreno.

8618
04:23:06,710 --> 04:23:07,347
>> You're speaking in English.

8619
04:23:07,347 --> 04:23:08,446
You MAY not be aware.

8620
04:23:08,446 --> 04:23:09,470
Yes or MADAM Whichever one side

8621
04:23:09,470 --> 04:23:09,447
And that that makes me

8622
04:23:09,447 --> 04:23:11,447
embarrassed.

8623
04:23:13,618 --> 04:23:17,218
Where when Sun embers or Hello

8624
04:23:18,623 --> 04:23:19,190
Ocala voters different e

8625
04:23:19,190 --> 04:23:21,190
commerce Commerce town

8626
04:23:22,994 --> 04:23:23,627
Hopefully you change your vote

8627
04:23:23,627 --> 04:23:25,596
and you change how you're

8628
04:23:25,596 --> 04:23:25,897
voting That concludes your time

8629
04:23:25,897 --> 04:23:27,897
.

8630
04:23:31,369 --> 04:23:32,690
I'm now going to educate I

8631
04:23:32,690 --> 04:23:32,570
appreciate that he apologize.

8632
04:23:32,570 --> 04:23:34,570
Let's stay classy.

8633
04:23:35,907 --> 04:23:36,541
Keep your eye on the ball and

8634
04:23:36,541 --> 04:23:37,275
the goal you're trying to

8635
04:23:37,275 --> 04:23:40,875
achieve here You much be much

8636
04:23:40,879 --> 04:23:41,579
better off Andrea ebbing if you

8637
04:23:41,579 --> 04:23:44,579
can please come forward after

8638
04:23:45,817 --> 04:23:46,418
that is Susan Ward Luis Luis

8639
04:23:46,418 --> 04:23:48,818
Stuart Sharon Gil Thiago

8640
04:23:50,655 --> 04:23:53,550
Battista Josh and Collins,

8641
04:23:55,493 --> 04:23:55,927
Martha Abraham, Rami Cortez and

8642
04:23:55,927 --> 04:23:56,661
Lauren Bamber.

8643
04:23:56,661 --> 04:23:57,328
If you can all please start

8644
04:23:57,328 --> 04:23:58,930
coming up to the first row.

8645
04:23:58,930 --> 04:23:59,397
Andrea you'll have one minute.

8646
04:23:59,397 --> 04:23:59,764
Please proceed.

8647
04:23:59,764 --> 04:24:00,765
Thank you.

8648
04:24:00,765 --> 04:24:03,801
My name is Andrea Ebbing and I

8649
04:24:03,801 --> 04:24:04,502
just wanted to stress

8650
04:24:04,502 --> 04:24:07,502
the importance of listening to

8651
04:24:08,874 --> 04:24:09,474
this group of people the really

8652
04:24:09,474 --> 04:24:11,874
impassioned and the well

8653
04:24:13,745 --> 04:24:14,312
explain that as a cautionary

8654
04:24:14,312 --> 04:24:14,980
tale of corruption and

8655
04:24:14,980 --> 04:24:17,916
kickbacks from the county of

8656
04:24:17,916 --> 04:24:18,616
San Diego.

8657
04:24:18,616 --> 04:24:19,283
So when these strange things

8658
04:24:19,283 --> 04:24:22,787
happen in the county and in

8659
04:24:22,787 --> 04:24:23,388
the city and they're in

8660
04:24:23,388 --> 04:24:24,210
explicable and we don't

8661
04:24:24,210 --> 04:24:24,689
understand why for example

8662
04:24:24,689 --> 04:24:27,689
the homeless crisis that we

8663
04:24:27,892 --> 04:24:28,593
have the addiction crisis we

8664
04:24:28,593 --> 04:24:29,360
have the opioid crisis we have

8665
04:24:29,360 --> 04:24:32,360
these are usually permitted by

8666
04:24:32,864 --> 04:24:33,631
extreme kickbacks.

8667
04:24:33,631 --> 04:24:36,631
So I would just caution

8668
04:24:37,201 --> 04:24:37,835
everybody to really make

8669
04:24:37,835 --> 04:24:40,235
the appropriate vote here

8670
04:24:41,807 --> 04:24:42,473
because I had reported the same

8671
04:24:42,473 --> 04:24:43,107
group of people that were

8672
04:24:43,107 --> 04:24:43,741
driving the opioid crisis

8673
04:24:43,741 --> 04:24:45,741
homeless crisis addiction

8674
04:24:47,345 --> 04:24:47,979
crisis importing people from

8675
04:24:47,979 --> 04:24:50,379
Oklahoma to California for

8676
04:24:51,549 --> 04:24:52,116
treatment And nobody listened

8677
04:24:52,116 --> 04:24:52,817
to me for four years.

8678
04:24:52,817 --> 04:24:53,385
But you know who was really

8679
04:24:53,385 --> 04:24:55,721
happy to hear from me?

8680
04:24:55,721 --> 04:24:56,387
Blue Cross Blue Shield who now

8681
04:24:56,387 --> 04:24:57,880
knows that the county of San

8682
04:24:57,880 --> 04:24:58,557
Diego ignored every single one

8683
04:24:58,557 --> 04:25:02,157
of my reports and that will

8684
04:25:02,226 --> 04:25:05,226
happen with these people here

8685
04:25:09,300 --> 04:25:10,100
next is Susan Ward.

8686
04:25:10,100 --> 04:25:10,669
Susan Ward it's people sitting

8687
04:25:10,669 --> 04:25:11,168
your time if they can please

8688
04:25:11,168 --> 04:25:12,871
raise their hand.

8689
04:25:12,871 --> 04:25:15,271
Nate Faries, Rosie Shands,

8690
04:25:17,776 --> 04:25:20,176
Karen Gun Cicero, Jesse

8691
04:25:21,746 --> 04:25:22,180
Gallegos, Maria Landis, Juan

8692
04:25:22,180 --> 04:25:24,180
Carlos Flores.

8693
04:25:27,252 --> 04:25:28,860
Kim Sharpe I think.

8694
04:25:28,860 --> 04:25:31,860
Thank you Laurie Frieda Joan

8695
04:25:36,940 --> 04:25:36,861
Dowd and Michael Jackson.

8696
04:25:36,861 --> 04:25:37,163
>> Michael Jackson had to

8697
04:25:37,163 --> 04:25:37,462
leave.

8698
04:25:37,462 --> 04:25:39,462
Okay.

8699
04:25:40,399 --> 04:25:40,865
You'll have nine minutes.

8700
04:25:40,865 --> 04:25:42,865
>> Excuse me.

8701
04:25:46,380 --> 04:25:46,671
Can we just have a minute to

8702
04:25:46,671 --> 04:25:47,606
set up some large boards?

8703
04:25:47,606 --> 04:25:49,241
>> I'm going to just go move on

8704
04:25:49,241 --> 04:25:50,108
to the next speaker to give you

8705
04:25:50,108 --> 04:25:50,742
some time to set up and then

8706
04:25:50,742 --> 04:25:53,742
we'll go forward with you.

8707
04:25:55,130 --> 04:25:58,613
>> Luis Stuart or Luis Stuart l

8708
04:26:03,121 --> 04:26:07,921
o u I s Stuart No sharing Go

8709
04:26:08,493 --> 04:26:09,360
after Sharon will be Diego You

8710
04:26:09,360 --> 04:26:10,280
can come to the if you can just

8711
04:26:10,280 --> 04:26:10,429
make room for her to get to

8712
04:26:10,429 --> 04:26:10,796
the speaker.

8713
04:26:10,796 --> 04:26:11,463
Thank you.

8714
04:26:11,463 --> 04:26:14,463
I'll have a minute please

8715
04:26:20,605 --> 04:26:21,373
proceed.

8716
04:26:21,373 --> 04:26:24,373
>> Despite what some people MAY

8717
04:26:24,676 --> 04:26:25,544
think the majority of voters

8718
04:26:25,544 --> 04:26:29,144
want more housing in the last

8719
04:26:29,814 --> 04:26:30,415
election the pro housing

8720
04:26:30,415 --> 04:26:30,982
candidates were elected.

8721
04:26:30,982 --> 04:26:33,382
The candidates many of

8722
04:26:35,253 --> 04:26:35,954
the people in this room were

8723
04:26:35,954 --> 04:26:38,354
supported, laughed And despite

8724
04:26:40,192 --> 04:26:40,926
what some people might say, we

8725
04:26:40,926 --> 04:26:41,426
should not blame developers for

8726
04:26:41,426 --> 04:26:43,426
building housing.

8727
04:26:44,463 --> 04:26:48,630
No one would build anything if

8728
04:26:48,660 --> 04:26:48,767
there weren't customers who

8729
04:26:48,767 --> 04:26:51,767
wanted to rent those houses.

8730
04:26:53,338 --> 04:26:54,390
Yes, brand new housing is

8731
04:26:54,390 --> 04:26:57,390
always more expensive than old

8732
04:26:58,276 --> 04:26:58,977
but there are still people who

8733
04:26:58,977 --> 04:26:59,745
want to rent them because

8734
04:26:59,745 --> 04:27:02,745
people need housing In San

8735
04:27:03,982 --> 04:27:07,582
Diego This is about the nurses,

8736
04:27:08,353 --> 04:27:09,200
teachers and secretaries and

8737
04:27:09,200 --> 04:27:09,521
others who are struggling to

8738
04:27:09,521 --> 04:27:11,921
live in San Diego.

8739
04:27:13,240 --> 04:27:13,425
Those are the people who rent

8740
04:27:13,425 --> 04:27:14,250
these units.

8741
04:27:14,250 --> 04:27:17,250
I urge you to support

8742
04:27:17,963 --> 04:27:18,397
the people who elected you and

8743
04:27:18,397 --> 04:27:20,397
want housing.

8744
04:27:23,680 --> 04:27:23,802
I urge you to support

8745
04:27:23,802 --> 04:27:24,402
the people in San Diego who are

8746
04:27:24,402 --> 04:27:24,769
struggling to live here.

8747
04:27:24,769 --> 04:27:26,769
Thank you.

8748
04:27:28,341 --> 04:27:29,308
Thank you.

8749
04:27:29,308 --> 04:27:32,511
Next is Tiago and you have time

8750
04:27:32,511 --> 04:27:35,511
to buy Rebecca about Theaster

8751
04:27:37,615 --> 04:27:38,484
Thank you And Susan Drury Susan

8752
04:27:38,484 --> 04:27:43,284
d are you are way No no not

8753
04:27:47,492 --> 04:27:48,393
sitting or not here Oh you're

8754
04:27:48,393 --> 04:27:49,161
sitting at the back of what you

8755
04:27:49,161 --> 04:27:52,664
say So Tiago Oh Tiago you have

8756
04:27:52,664 --> 04:27:53,365
time ceded to you by back

8757
04:27:53,365 --> 04:27:54,660
artist and Susan Drury seated

8758
04:27:54,660 --> 04:27:54,333
her time to think about these

8759
04:27:54,333 --> 04:27:56,333
two.

8760
04:27:56,735 --> 04:27:57,603
So are you ceding it?

8761
04:27:57,603 --> 04:27:58,304
Yeah I know So I'm trying to

8762
04:27:58,304 --> 04:28:01,304
get Susan since she's not

8763
04:28:01,306 --> 04:28:01,606
speaking are you ceding it to

8764
04:28:01,606 --> 04:28:01,906
Tiago?

8765
04:28:01,906 --> 04:28:02,308
Okay.

8766
04:28:02,308 --> 04:28:04,308
Thank you.

8767
04:28:05,177 --> 04:28:05,677
You'll have three minutes.

8768
04:28:05,677 --> 04:28:06,412
>> Please proceed.

8769
04:28:06,412 --> 04:28:06,712
Thank you so much for listening

8770
04:28:06,712 --> 04:28:08,712
to me.

8771
04:28:10,115 --> 04:28:10,950
Each of us.

8772
04:28:10,950 --> 04:28:15,150
I'm here to speak on behalf of

8773
04:28:15,287 --> 04:28:15,988
these amazing people that I

8774
04:28:15,988 --> 04:28:16,321
consider to be part of my

8775
04:28:16,321 --> 04:28:18,321
family.

8776
04:28:20,359 --> 04:28:23,959
We've been long ways here since

8777
04:28:24,290 --> 04:28:24,730
JANUARY and the team from

8778
04:28:24,730 --> 04:28:28,330
the better San Diego has been

8779
04:28:28,400 --> 04:28:28,833
fighting for these for about

8780
04:28:28,833 --> 04:28:29,601
four years.

8781
04:28:29,601 --> 04:28:30,469
But when it's your show, share

8782
04:28:30,469 --> 04:28:33,572
a little bit about my story but

8783
04:28:33,572 --> 04:28:34,340
it's not about me.

8784
04:28:34,340 --> 04:28:37,676
This is about everyone here And

8785
04:28:37,676 --> 04:28:42,476
I bet that each one of you guys

8786
04:28:42,748 --> 04:28:43,615
can relate to this.

8787
04:28:43,615 --> 04:28:46,351
But I migrated to United States

8788
04:28:46,351 --> 04:28:49,351
22 years ago with 300 bucks in

8789
04:28:51,290 --> 04:28:53,826
my pocket left behind a third

8790
04:28:53,826 --> 04:28:57,426
world country that I love I

8791
04:28:59,131 --> 04:28:59,798
adore so much always being

8792
04:28:59,798 --> 04:29:02,798
super vocal about how Unites

8793
04:29:04,536 --> 04:29:06,936
States California and specific

8794
04:29:09,442 --> 04:29:10,209
is a place of things that you

8795
04:29:10,209 --> 04:29:13,209
guys do things well planned

8796
04:29:14,446 --> 04:29:16,446
fairly.

8797
04:29:19,718 --> 04:29:20,385
That's why United States and

8798
04:29:20,385 --> 04:29:22,785
California is consider first

8799
04:29:23,822 --> 04:29:24,590
our first world country.

8800
04:29:24,590 --> 04:29:28,190
I worked very hard three jobs

8801
04:29:29,194 --> 04:29:29,995
No we stop working here while I

8802
04:29:29,995 --> 04:29:33,132
am listening to each of these

8803
04:29:33,132 --> 04:29:35,532
amazing people sharing these

8804
04:29:38,303 --> 04:29:39,720
stories and their numbers here

8805
04:29:39,720 --> 04:29:39,872
did all my homework before I

8806
04:29:39,872 --> 04:29:42,872
bought a property in Canton

8807
04:29:44,209 --> 04:29:44,476
which I love my community I is

8808
04:29:44,476 --> 04:29:46,476
30.

8809
04:29:49,148 --> 04:29:49,881
What could be build what I

8810
04:29:49,881 --> 04:29:53,481
could not what my neighbor next

8811
04:29:53,686 --> 04:29:54,253
door could do so or not had two

8812
04:29:54,253 --> 04:29:56,653
beautiful kids with my

8813
04:29:58,825 --> 04:29:59,458
beautiful wife Rebecca and

8814
04:29:59,458 --> 04:30:00,159
finally we thought we were

8815
04:30:00,159 --> 04:30:02,559
getting somewhere We're doing

8816
04:30:04,630 --> 04:30:04,631
we're crushing, We're getting

8817
04:30:04,631 --> 04:30:05,163
there almost achieving

8818
04:30:05,163 --> 04:30:07,163
the American dream.

8819
04:30:11,170 --> 04:30:11,971
Guess what Just joking.

8820
04:30:11,971 --> 04:30:14,971
>> Then the first step came.

8821
04:30:15,908 --> 04:30:16,609
We found out an apartment

8822
04:30:16,609 --> 04:30:19,145
complex JANUARY 4th right next

8823
04:30:19,145 --> 04:30:21,545
to my door 43 units

8824
04:30:24,517 --> 04:30:25,218
unreasonable Second step We

8825
04:30:25,218 --> 04:30:27,618
learned that everything was

8826
04:30:29,922 --> 04:30:32,922
fast closed doors during covid

8827
04:30:33,626 --> 04:30:34,594
during the pandemic We had no

8828
04:30:34,594 --> 04:30:38,794
choice no no way to fight for

8829
04:30:39,131 --> 04:30:39,665
it to speak about it or

8830
04:30:39,665 --> 04:30:41,665
anything like that.

8831
04:30:44,137 --> 04:30:44,670
>> Bono's radio sdk equals

8832
04:30:44,670 --> 04:30:46,670
third world country.

8833
04:30:49,709 --> 04:30:50,275
Are you guys ready to take

8834
04:30:50,275 --> 04:30:52,675
the city This country?

8835
04:30:53,979 --> 04:30:56,979
Darrell Vivian Moreno I know

8836
04:30:58,518 --> 04:30:59,185
you very well Spoken about this

8837
04:30:59,185 --> 04:31:02,185
and that this is true.

8838
04:31:03,522 --> 04:31:04,223
You also a lot of people damage

8839
04:31:04,223 --> 04:31:04,991
jumping on these phone calls

8840
04:31:04,991 --> 04:31:08,591
here that they're not here They

8841
04:31:09,996 --> 04:31:10,864
are against us.

8842
04:31:10,864 --> 04:31:11,463
>> They are all you to thank

8843
04:31:11,463 --> 04:31:11,797
you for that concluding

8844
04:31:11,797 --> 04:31:13,797
comment.

8845
04:31:14,767 --> 04:31:15,468
Gotcha YouTube I'll go back and

8846
04:31:15,468 --> 04:31:18,204
search Bono's word Bono's San

8847
04:31:18,204 --> 04:31:21,204
Diego Bono's in San Diego.

8848
04:31:23,109 --> 04:31:23,976
>> You'll have nine minutes.

8849
04:31:23,976 --> 04:31:27,576
>> Hi, my name is Susan Ward.

8850
04:31:28,181 --> 04:31:28,881
This is going to be a little

8851
04:31:28,881 --> 04:31:29,448
different presentation just a

8852
04:31:29,448 --> 04:31:31,448
little more personal.

8853
04:31:33,820 --> 04:31:34,520
So I've been a resident here

8854
04:31:34,520 --> 04:31:37,723
for nine years and Linda Vista

8855
04:31:37,723 --> 04:31:38,557
I love Linda Vista.

8856
04:31:38,557 --> 04:31:42,757
It has a very what would you

8857
04:31:42,829 --> 04:31:43,596
call um kind of one of those

8858
04:31:43,596 --> 04:31:46,596
looks that's relaxed in my

8859
04:31:47,934 --> 04:31:48,801
opinion which I prefer.

8860
04:31:48,801 --> 04:31:52,672
So that's why I chose to move

8861
04:31:52,672 --> 04:31:53,380
to Linda Vista plus take a lot

8862
04:31:53,380 --> 04:31:53,506
to Canyon.

8863
04:31:53,506 --> 04:31:55,506
It's beautiful.

8864
04:31:57,143 --> 04:31:57,844
I love the people.

8865
04:31:57,844 --> 04:31:58,712
I love the diversity.

8866
04:31:58,712 --> 04:32:02,281
I love that there's a mixture

8867
04:32:02,281 --> 04:32:04,681
of people Asian, Hispanic,

8868
04:32:07,487 --> 04:32:08,530
black, white and others.

8869
04:32:08,530 --> 04:32:10,453
So I love it.

8870
04:32:11,524 --> 04:32:12,325
A lot of people don't know how

8871
04:32:12,325 --> 04:32:13,590
wonderful Linda Vista is and a

8872
04:32:13,590 --> 04:32:16,659
lot of people thought these old

8873
04:32:16,897 --> 04:32:19,799
homes that you're going to see

8874
04:32:19,799 --> 04:32:20,366
that are happened to be 750ft

8875
04:32:20,366 --> 04:32:22,366
which is interesting.

8876
04:32:25,505 --> 04:32:26,206
>> These houses were created to

8877
04:32:26,206 --> 04:32:29,206
house the people that made

8878
04:32:30,443 --> 04:32:31,110
the planes for World War Two.

8879
04:32:31,110 --> 04:32:34,110
So that being said, there

8880
04:32:35,448 --> 04:32:36,117
should be some kind of respect

8881
04:32:36,117 --> 04:32:39,117
to me for these historical

8882
04:32:39,285 --> 04:32:39,652
homes, this historical

8883
04:32:39,652 --> 04:32:40,386
community.

8884
04:32:40,386 --> 04:32:43,386
Not only that Eleanor Roosevelt

8885
04:32:44,790 --> 04:32:45,191
she actually put a shovel to

8886
04:32:45,191 --> 04:32:47,191
the ground.

8887
04:32:48,861 --> 04:32:49,562
>> There was a mall one of

8888
04:32:49,562 --> 04:32:53,162
the first malls was created in

8889
04:32:53,433 --> 04:32:54,200
Linda Vista and it was Eleanor

8890
04:32:54,200 --> 04:32:54,801
Roosevelt that put that shovel

8891
04:32:54,801 --> 04:32:57,201
to the ground Historical

8892
04:32:57,937 --> 04:32:58,705
community.

8893
04:32:58,705 --> 04:32:59,372
So we're going to look into

8894
04:32:59,372 --> 04:33:02,775
this and see if we can

8895
04:33:02,775 --> 04:33:03,142
designate it a historical

8896
04:33:03,142 --> 04:33:03,977
community.

8897
04:33:03,977 --> 04:33:07,577
>> That being said, I just want

8898
04:33:08,381 --> 04:33:09,182
to start with let's see we're

8899
04:33:09,182 --> 04:33:12,180
going to go ahead and get into

8900
04:33:12,180 --> 04:33:15,180
the houses in Linda Vista.

8901
04:33:22,610 --> 04:33:22,829
So there's a home And when you

8902
04:33:22,829 --> 04:33:23,597
see this home this is one of

8903
04:33:23,597 --> 04:33:26,597
those houses we were talking

8904
04:33:27,567 --> 04:33:28,268
about And it reminds me you've

8905
04:33:28,268 --> 04:33:29,135
heard this before some of you

8906
04:33:29,135 --> 04:33:32,272
of sand lot I just thought

8907
04:33:32,272 --> 04:33:33,139
super cute house I'd love to

8908
04:33:33,139 --> 04:33:36,739
live here or here in this

8909
04:33:41,881 --> 04:33:45,481
location And so yes thank you.

8910
04:33:47,420 --> 04:33:48,870
And then what you will see in

8911
04:33:48,870 --> 04:33:51,687
the backyard when you go to

8912
04:33:56,290 --> 04:33:56,696
the backyard is this that's

8913
04:33:56,696 --> 04:33:57,463
what you used to see.

8914
04:33:57,463 --> 04:34:00,463
Now you're going to see

8915
04:34:00,967 --> 04:34:03,367
something different And you

8916
04:34:11,244 --> 04:34:14,547
that this is what you see there

8917
04:34:14,547 --> 04:34:15,415
now And it's 18 units in this

8918
04:34:15,415 --> 04:34:18,415
cute little house backyard That

8919
04:34:20,220 --> 04:34:21,200
is unacceptable.

8920
04:34:21,200 --> 04:34:24,200
Well, I actually had somebody

8921
04:34:25,325 --> 04:34:25,959
come in to the back and they

8922
04:34:25,959 --> 04:34:28,359
said I saw photograph.

8923
04:34:30,363 --> 04:34:30,931
But when I stood in that space

8924
04:34:30,931 --> 04:34:33,331
I couldn't believe it.

8925
04:34:34,134 --> 04:34:34,601
It's totally different from

8926
04:34:34,601 --> 04:34:35,335
the photograph.

8927
04:34:35,335 --> 04:34:38,935
It almost I swear you're going

8928
04:34:39,840 --> 04:34:40,240
to cry And that's why we wanted

8929
04:34:40,240 --> 04:34:41,400
MR. Camper.

8930
04:34:41,400 --> 04:34:44,711
We wanted you to come And that

8931
04:34:44,711 --> 04:34:45,378
was the reason Miles came.

8932
04:34:45,378 --> 04:34:46,113
And I'm just curious.

8933
04:34:46,113 --> 04:34:48,882
I was wondering what he told

8934
04:34:48,882 --> 04:34:49,650
you And I don't know if you can

8935
04:34:49,650 --> 04:34:53,250
answer back or not, but okay.

8936
04:34:54,354 --> 04:34:55,550
But yes, we would love to hear

8937
04:34:55,550 --> 04:34:55,823
Miles at some point tell us

8938
04:34:55,823 --> 04:34:58,823
what his experience was and

8939
04:34:59,426 --> 04:35:00,127
share that with all of you so

8940
04:35:00,127 --> 04:35:03,127
that you have an understanding

8941
04:35:04,970 --> 04:35:05,310
of how this hurts people.

8942
04:35:05,310 --> 04:35:08,310
>> That home is is totally

8943
04:35:09,569 --> 04:35:10,337
changed The rest of their life.

8944
04:35:10,337 --> 04:35:13,373
They're going to live at this

8945
04:35:13,373 --> 04:35:14,141
home that was arranged if you

8946
04:35:14,141 --> 04:35:14,841
look at what they did in

8947
04:35:14,841 --> 04:35:18,441
the backyard, they have a they

8948
04:35:18,645 --> 04:35:19,413
have this little hammock.

8949
04:35:19,413 --> 04:35:22,413
They have a fire pit.

8950
04:35:23,816 --> 04:35:24,284
They even have what is it

8951
04:35:24,284 --> 04:35:24,718
the tree house.

8952
04:35:24,718 --> 04:35:26,718
A tree house.

8953
04:35:28,488 --> 04:35:29,560
Super cute for this to happen

8954
04:35:29,560 --> 04:35:30,123
is just so sad.

8955
04:35:30,123 --> 04:35:34,160
So that being said I would like

8956
04:35:34,160 --> 04:35:34,962
the owner to come up and speak

8957
04:35:34,962 --> 04:35:36,963
on his behalf about this

8958
04:35:36,963 --> 04:35:38,963
situation.

8959
04:35:41,935 --> 04:35:42,235
Thank you, Jessie.

8960
04:35:42,235 --> 04:35:44,235
Hello.

8961
04:35:46,273 --> 04:35:47,400
My name is Juan Carlos Flores.

8962
04:35:47,400 --> 04:35:50,640
As she mentioned, this is my

8963
04:35:51,311 --> 04:35:54,911
home and I still struggle to

8964
04:35:55,820 --> 04:35:55,949
see how this massive three

8965
04:35:55,949 --> 04:35:58,349
story 18 unit apartment complex

8966
04:36:00,688 --> 04:36:00,954
is called or qualifies as an

8967
04:36:00,954 --> 04:36:01,855
adu.

8968
04:36:01,855 --> 04:36:04,591
It's five feet from my property

8969
04:36:04,591 --> 04:36:05,292
line.

8970
04:36:05,292 --> 04:36:05,793
It's got 18 windows looking

8971
04:36:05,793 --> 04:36:07,793
into my backyard.

8972
04:36:10,297 --> 04:36:13,897
My privacy you know my family

8973
04:36:14,902 --> 04:36:15,602
has lost all privacy is causing

8974
04:36:15,602 --> 04:36:16,470
severe stress over the cost to

8975
04:36:16,470 --> 04:36:20,700
regain our privacy And I don't

8976
04:36:21,841 --> 04:36:22,542
even know if it's possible

8977
04:36:22,542 --> 04:36:23,210
Besides all the concerns being

8978
04:36:23,210 --> 04:36:26,210
brought up by the community,

8979
04:36:27,314 --> 04:36:28,140
there is also an emotional and

8980
04:36:28,140 --> 04:36:31,140
social impact to families that

8981
04:36:32,552 --> 04:36:33,387
to be considered.

8982
04:36:33,387 --> 04:36:34,870
When my wife and I bought our

8983
04:36:34,870 --> 04:36:37,687
home in in the Vista 22 years

8984
04:36:37,757 --> 04:36:38,558
ago we chose it because it was

8985
04:36:38,558 --> 04:36:39,259
in a quiet street, a one way

8986
04:36:39,259 --> 04:36:42,162
street on the Takealot Canyon

8987
04:36:42,162 --> 04:36:42,929
Rim.

8988
04:36:42,929 --> 04:36:43,630
Our peaceful street of 21

8989
04:36:43,630 --> 04:36:46,630
single family homes will soon

8990
04:36:47,801 --> 04:36:50,801
be crowded with 62 homes with

8991
04:36:52,606 --> 04:36:53,140
nothing preventing further over

8992
04:36:53,140 --> 04:36:54,400
a developing right.

8993
04:36:54,400 --> 04:36:57,640
Relocating is not an option My

8994
04:36:58,211 --> 04:36:58,511
family has built a community

8995
04:36:58,511 --> 04:36:59,179
here.

8996
04:36:59,179 --> 04:37:02,179
My 12 year old son attends

8997
04:37:02,683 --> 04:37:03,484
school nearby moving would

8998
04:37:03,484 --> 04:37:06,484
disrupt their life and our

8999
04:37:06,987 --> 04:37:07,721
financial goals.

9000
04:37:07,721 --> 04:37:08,622
Miles from computers as soon as

9001
04:37:08,622 --> 04:37:12,126
he mentioned came out to see

9002
04:37:12,126 --> 04:37:12,893
this Right.

9003
04:37:12,893 --> 04:37:13,494
And he came out to see

9004
04:37:13,494 --> 04:37:14,160
the neighborhood and saw

9005
04:37:14,160 --> 04:37:16,560
firsthand the damage that's

9006
04:37:17,664 --> 04:37:18,532
being done to our communities.

9007
04:37:18,532 --> 04:37:22,132
I hope MR. Compiler that those

9008
04:37:22,503 --> 04:37:23,370
concerns got back to you And I

9009
04:37:23,370 --> 04:37:26,606
do want to extend an offer to

9010
04:37:26,606 --> 04:37:27,274
all of you to come to my house

9011
04:37:27,274 --> 04:37:30,274
and see the damage that

9012
04:37:31,546 --> 04:37:32,780
unchecked development is doing

9013
04:37:32,780 --> 04:37:34,780
to our communities.

9014
04:37:36,182 --> 04:37:36,883
It's open invitation and I will

9015
04:37:36,883 --> 04:37:37,584
email all of you guys

9016
04:37:37,584 --> 04:37:40,584
the address and you're welcome

9017
04:37:41,255 --> 04:37:41,955
to come and see because

9018
04:37:41,955 --> 04:37:45,555
the pictures as they said they

9019
04:37:46,294 --> 04:37:47,161
don't do justice When you stand

9020
04:37:47,161 --> 04:37:51,332
there a lot of people mention I

9021
04:37:51,332 --> 04:37:52,320
would cry and my family has

9022
04:37:52,320 --> 04:37:54,432
cried because it's impacting.

9023
04:37:54,835 --> 04:37:57,835
So please consider what you're

9024
04:38:09,850 --> 04:38:10,451
doing to our community.

9025
04:38:10,451 --> 04:38:10,817
Does that conclude your

9026
04:38:10,817 --> 04:38:12,817
comments?

9027
04:38:14,722 --> 04:38:15,389
Do I still have some time?

9028
04:38:15,389 --> 04:38:17,789
Two minutes and 11 seconds.

9029
04:38:19,600 --> 04:38:22,600
The timer is right there.

9030
04:38:24,398 --> 04:38:24,799
We can turn that with you.

9031
04:38:24,799 --> 04:38:25,990
>> Okay.

9032
04:38:25,990 --> 04:38:25,866
Okay.

9033
04:38:25,866 --> 04:38:29,170
We're going to talk a little

9034
04:38:29,170 --> 04:38:29,903
bit about fire and why we're

9035
04:38:29,903 --> 04:38:32,303
concerned about that situation.

9036
04:38:34,108 --> 04:38:36,508
Not only that situation.

9037
04:38:39,346 --> 04:38:42,946
We have cars lined street and

9038
04:38:43,517 --> 04:38:43,918
it's narrow 1952 roads We have

9039
04:38:43,918 --> 04:38:44,685
a canyon.

9040
04:38:44,685 --> 04:38:45,530
This is a gentleman that is

9041
04:38:45,530 --> 04:38:47,530
homeless.

9042
04:38:48,589 --> 04:38:48,989
He's been in this site about

9043
04:38:48,989 --> 04:38:49,590
five times.

9044
04:38:49,590 --> 04:38:52,590
We've had him to leave.

9045
04:38:53,694 --> 04:38:54,295
He's come back.

9046
04:38:54,295 --> 04:38:56,695
We're worried about what

9047
04:38:57,398 --> 04:38:58,299
happened with Fryer's fires So

9048
04:38:58,299 --> 04:38:58,799
you can see the property is up

9049
04:38:58,799 --> 04:39:01,199
there at the top.

9050
04:39:02,736 --> 04:39:03,437
>> We're also concerned about

9051
04:39:03,437 --> 04:39:03,804
those people in that on that

9052
04:39:03,804 --> 04:39:05,804
property.

9053
04:39:08,176 --> 04:39:08,876
How are the ambulances going to

9054
04:39:08,876 --> 04:39:09,443
get in If there's a fire in

9055
04:39:09,443 --> 04:39:10,144
particular to canyon?

9056
04:39:10,144 --> 04:39:12,880
You can see how close that is

9057
04:39:12,880 --> 04:39:13,647
to the canyon.

9058
04:39:13,647 --> 04:39:16,647
>> How are we getting out?

9059
04:39:16,951 --> 04:39:17,652
If you notice two hundred and

9060
04:39:17,652 --> 04:39:18,419
20 mobile homes that are

9061
04:39:18,419 --> 04:39:21,522
surrounded by a lot of canyon.

9062
04:39:21,522 --> 04:39:22,223
They only have one way in and

9063
04:39:22,223 --> 04:39:22,590
one way out into our little

9064
04:39:22,590 --> 04:39:24,590
community.

9065
04:39:25,926 --> 04:39:26,661
If you notice 91 Casa Bella

9066
04:39:26,661 --> 04:39:29,610
townhomes surrounded by tequila

9067
04:39:30,665 --> 04:39:31,366
today only have one way and one

9068
04:39:31,366 --> 04:39:32,132
way out and they're going to

9069
04:39:32,132 --> 04:39:35,132
feed into our little tiny

9070
04:39:35,470 --> 04:39:36,170
neighborhood That's a thousand

9071
04:39:36,170 --> 04:39:38,570
cars bottlenecking at hostler

9072
04:39:40,975 --> 04:39:41,742
to get out to Comstock and on

9073
04:39:41,742 --> 04:39:44,678
hostler there's a new to you

9074
04:39:44,678 --> 04:39:45,480
happening on hostler and it's

9075
04:39:45,480 --> 04:39:49,800
already crowded So we've got a

9076
04:39:50,652 --> 04:39:51,419
safety issue here.

9077
04:39:51,419 --> 04:39:52,219
We keep saying we've got a

9078
04:39:52,219 --> 04:39:54,955
safety issue That means stop

9079
04:39:54,955 --> 04:39:55,356
the ados Now we have done more

9080
04:39:55,356 --> 04:39:56,123
than enough.

9081
04:39:56,123 --> 04:39:59,123
There's no way we should

9082
04:39:59,827 --> 04:40:00,661
continue with this.

9083
04:40:00,661 --> 04:40:03,661
You're adding to the safety

9084
04:40:04,932 --> 04:40:05,600
issue.

9085
04:40:05,600 --> 04:40:06,267
>> Here's our dream home.

9086
04:40:06,267 --> 04:40:08,870
We probably don't have time.

9087
04:40:08,870 --> 04:40:09,370
How much can we get?

9088
04:40:09,370 --> 04:40:09,937
15 seconds.

9089
04:40:09,937 --> 04:40:12,337
Okay, let's go ahead.

9090
04:40:13,908 --> 04:40:14,575
These are homes that people

9091
04:40:14,575 --> 04:40:15,430
other homes that are within

9092
04:40:15,430 --> 04:40:15,743
their backyard.

9093
04:40:15,743 --> 04:40:18,743
There's about four other ones.

9094
04:40:18,913 --> 04:40:19,681
Laurie, you want to come up and

9095
04:40:19,681 --> 04:40:22,681
say something real quick or

9096
04:40:23,384 --> 04:40:23,684
something like Lori's home is

9097
04:40:23,684 --> 04:40:25,684
here.

9098
04:40:28,289 --> 04:40:29,230
>> That's okay.

9099
04:40:29,230 --> 04:40:29,356
Thank you for that concluding

9100
04:40:29,356 --> 04:40:31,356
comment.

9101
04:40:32,293 --> 04:40:32,994
We only have six speakers left

9102
04:40:32,994 --> 04:40:33,661
in chambers and we'll go to

9103
04:40:33,661 --> 04:40:35,661
those participating remotely

9104
04:40:37,465 --> 04:40:38,133
Josh and Collins if you can

9105
04:40:38,133 --> 04:40:41,133
please come up Collins, Josh

9106
04:40:41,202 --> 04:40:44,202
and Collins after that Martha

9107
04:40:46,474 --> 04:40:47,242
Abraham Ramy or Remy Cortez,

9108
04:40:47,242 --> 04:40:49,642
Lorena Bembry and Ramsay's

9109
04:40:52,347 --> 04:40:53,470
Laura MISS Fantastic I have a

9110
04:40:53,470 --> 04:40:56,647
minute that was donated to me.

9111
04:40:56,884 --> 04:40:57,184
You are Martha Yeah.

9112
04:40:57,184 --> 04:40:57,952
Okay.

9113
04:40:57,952 --> 04:40:58,386
Just leave it right there in

9114
04:40:58,386 --> 04:40:59,421
the clear box.

9115
04:40:59,421 --> 04:40:59,721
Someone will come up and get it

9116
04:40:59,721 --> 04:41:00,588
.

9117
04:41:00,588 --> 04:41:04,188
>> Anything to get the name off

9118
04:41:04,626 --> 04:41:05,593
of it.

9119
04:41:05,593 --> 04:41:08,930
Can you raise your hand if you

9120
04:41:08,930 --> 04:41:09,664
seated your time?

9121
04:41:09,664 --> 04:41:12,664
Susan Baldwin Susan Baldwin are

9122
04:41:13,935 --> 04:41:14,602
you here?

9123
04:41:14,602 --> 04:41:15,203
Oh, thank you so much.

9124
04:41:15,203 --> 04:41:15,670
You'll have two minutes.

9125
04:41:15,670 --> 04:41:16,360
Please proceed.

9126
04:41:16,360 --> 04:41:18,360
Thank you.

9127
04:41:18,940 --> 04:41:19,674
My name is Martha Abraham.

9128
04:41:19,674 --> 04:41:22,674
I'm from district four Speaking

9129
04:41:22,844 --> 04:41:23,611
on the record I would like to

9130
04:41:23,611 --> 04:41:24,478
start by asking you all a

9131
04:41:24,478 --> 04:41:26,113
question How many of you have

9132
04:41:26,113 --> 04:41:28,113
been born?

9133
04:41:31,860 --> 04:41:33,486
>> Just raise your hand.

9134
04:41:34,856 --> 04:41:35,457
That's hard to believe when

9135
04:41:35,457 --> 04:41:36,190
there's over a thousand

9136
04:41:36,190 --> 04:41:36,925
comments saying that they don't

9137
04:41:36,925 --> 04:41:40,128
want something and you all vote

9138
04:41:40,128 --> 04:41:40,828
against it.

9139
04:41:40,828 --> 04:41:41,596
Let's not dance around

9140
04:41:41,596 --> 04:41:44,999
the truth because when it comes

9141
04:41:44,999 --> 04:41:45,700
to the bonus radio program in

9142
04:41:45,700 --> 04:41:48,700
San Diego it's clear somebody

9143
04:41:49,938 --> 04:41:50,205
is getting rich and it's not

9144
04:41:50,205 --> 04:41:50,939
us.

9145
04:41:50,939 --> 04:41:54,539
When I think about the bonus

9146
04:41:54,976 --> 04:41:55,643
Edu program I always see

9147
04:41:55,643 --> 04:41:56,244
the monopoly men similar to

9148
04:41:56,244 --> 04:41:58,913
the men sitting in that

9149
04:41:58,913 --> 04:41:59,547
boardroom back there men

9150
04:41:59,547 --> 04:42:01,947
dressed in business suits

9151
04:42:04,520 --> 04:42:07,652
running away with bags of money

9152
04:42:08,857 --> 04:42:09,557
grinning as a chick as they're

9153
04:42:09,557 --> 04:42:10,250
cashing in on a system rigged

9154
04:42:10,250 --> 04:42:12,250
in their favor.

9155
04:42:13,929 --> 04:42:14,595
That's what this is a game

9156
04:42:14,595 --> 04:42:17,595
where developers win big and

9157
04:42:18,300 --> 04:42:18,966
our communities pay the price.

9158
04:42:18,966 --> 04:42:19,634
They see some bonus aid

9159
04:42:19,634 --> 04:42:21,634
developers developments are

9160
04:42:23,538 --> 04:42:24,406
outliers but if that was true,

9161
04:42:24,406 --> 04:42:28,410
why do they keep showing up in

9162
04:42:28,410 --> 04:42:29,444
under-resourced neighborhoods

9163
04:42:29,444 --> 04:42:32,444
Wire our communities in ones

9164
04:42:33,248 --> 04:42:33,882
already struggling with

9165
04:42:33,882 --> 04:42:34,482
infrastructure strain and

9166
04:42:34,482 --> 04:42:36,482
historical disinvestment

9167
04:42:38,420 --> 04:42:39,153
the ones absorbing the brunt of

9168
04:42:39,153 --> 04:42:42,153
the so called housing solution?

9169
04:42:43,425 --> 04:42:44,159
>> They say some developers are

9170
04:42:44,159 --> 04:42:44,860
taking advantage of the program

9171
04:42:44,860 --> 04:42:47,662
But that's But let's be honest

9172
04:42:47,662 --> 04:42:48,363
Do you really believe people

9173
04:42:48,363 --> 04:42:49,970
saying that aren't in bed with

9174
04:42:49,970 --> 04:42:52,970
the same developers cashing in?

9175
04:42:52,501 --> 04:42:52,868
This isn't a loophole being

9176
04:42:52,868 --> 04:42:53,601
exploited.

9177
04:42:53,601 --> 04:42:56,601
It's a pipeline engineered with

9178
04:42:57,739 --> 04:42:58,440
intent backed by insiders and

9179
04:42:58,440 --> 04:43:00,840
paved with taxpayer subsidies

9180
04:43:02,778 --> 04:43:03,144
And who pays the price?

9181
04:43:03,144 --> 04:43:03,845
We do.

9182
04:43:03,845 --> 04:43:06,782
Communities are being left to

9183
04:43:06,782 --> 04:43:07,382
deal with overcrowded streets,

9184
04:43:07,382 --> 04:43:09,382
dwindling resources and

9185
04:43:11,719 --> 04:43:12,487
unaffordable rents while

9186
04:43:12,487 --> 04:43:13,221
developers walk away with 200

9187
04:43:13,221 --> 04:43:16,221
to 400 a return on investment.

9188
04:43:16,558 --> 04:43:17,292
We're left with

9189
04:43:17,292 --> 04:43:17,726
the catastrophic repercussions.

9190
04:43:17,726 --> 04:43:19,726
>> Thank you.

9191
04:43:20,963 --> 04:43:22,963
Thank you.

9192
04:43:30,172 --> 04:43:30,939
>> Rami Cortez Good evening.

9193
04:43:30,939 --> 04:43:33,339
Council PRESIDENT Lacob and

9194
04:43:35,577 --> 04:43:36,477
Council members.

9195
04:43:36,477 --> 04:43:37,112
My name is Rami Cortez and I

9196
04:43:37,112 --> 04:43:37,412
was born and raised in San

9197
04:43:37,412 --> 04:43:39,412
Diego.

9198
04:43:40,449 --> 04:43:40,982
We find ourselves not only in a

9199
04:43:40,982 --> 04:43:41,550
housing crisis but a

9200
04:43:41,550 --> 04:43:42,183
humanitarian crisis as

9201
04:43:42,183 --> 04:43:45,183
the number of our unhoused

9202
04:43:45,420 --> 04:43:46,121
neighbors continues to rise due

9203
04:43:46,121 --> 04:43:49,121
to our inability to provide

9204
04:43:50,659 --> 04:43:50,993
housing supply at all income

9205
04:43:50,993 --> 04:43:51,760
levels.

9206
04:43:51,760 --> 04:43:54,496
In our last housing cycle there

9207
04:43:54,496 --> 04:43:54,795
were only 37 moderate homes

9208
04:43:54,795 --> 04:43:56,795
built.

9209
04:43:58,667 --> 04:43:59,701
Of the 15,462 targeted.

9210
04:43:59,701 --> 04:44:02,270
This is less than one quarter

9211
04:44:02,270 --> 04:44:02,971
of 1% of the Rina goal In just

9212
04:44:02,971 --> 04:44:03,605
a few years the number of deed

9213
04:44:03,605 --> 04:44:05,605
restricted moderate income

9214
04:44:07,242 --> 04:44:09,642
homes has increased by 1,000%

9215
04:44:11,780 --> 04:44:12,113
as a result of the adu bonus

9216
04:44:12,113 --> 04:44:12,814
program.

9217
04:44:12,814 --> 04:44:13,482
The program is working so well

9218
04:44:13,482 --> 04:44:16,482
it's supported by a diverse

9219
04:44:16,652 --> 04:44:17,252
coalition of transit market

9220
04:44:17,252 --> 04:44:17,886
rate, affordable housing

9221
04:44:17,886 --> 04:44:18,453
business and environmental

9222
04:44:18,453 --> 04:44:20,453
advocate groups whose

9223
04:44:22,257 --> 04:44:22,891
membership makes up thousands

9224
04:44:22,891 --> 04:44:23,625
of San Diegans supporting

9225
04:44:23,625 --> 04:44:26,250
the 80 bonus program amendments

9226
04:44:27,960 --> 04:44:27,830
which enhance safety and remove

9227
04:44:27,830 --> 04:44:30,230
outlier projects support middle

9228
04:44:31,330 --> 04:44:31,700
income housing where we need it

9229
04:44:31,700 --> 04:44:32,167
most along transit corridors

9230
04:44:32,167 --> 04:44:32,601
and job centers.

9231
04:44:32,601 --> 04:44:33,935
>> Thank you.

9232
04:44:33,935 --> 04:44:35,935
Thank you.

9233
04:44:40,208 --> 04:44:40,875
Lorena Bambury You were seated

9234
04:44:40,875 --> 04:44:41,476
on time by Keenan Bambury

9235
04:44:41,476 --> 04:44:42,770
Please raise your hand.

9236
04:44:42,770 --> 04:44:43,379
You'll have two minutes.

9237
04:44:43,379 --> 04:44:43,878
Please proceed.

9238
04:44:43,878 --> 04:44:44,546
>> Good evening.

9239
04:44:44,546 --> 04:44:45,213
Today we're here so that

9240
04:44:45,213 --> 04:44:48,617
the City Council can vote on

9241
04:44:48,617 --> 04:44:49,218
whether or not to accept

9242
04:44:49,218 --> 04:44:49,885
the amendments proposed

9243
04:44:49,885 --> 04:44:52,885
regardless of how it's voted

9244
04:44:53,622 --> 04:44:54,290
today it's not enough.

9245
04:44:54,290 --> 04:44:54,990
Following the vote, the city

9246
04:44:54,990 --> 04:44:58,590
needs to do a moratorium on

9247
04:44:59,328 --> 04:45:00,194
the buildings and permits that

9248
04:45:00,194 --> 04:45:02,931
fall under the bonus 80 You and

9249
04:45:02,931 --> 04:45:03,632
the sga.

9250
04:45:03,632 --> 04:45:04,300
The Council has that authority

9251
04:45:04,300 --> 04:45:04,967
evidenced by the moratoriums

9252
04:45:04,967 --> 04:45:07,367
that were implemented during

9253
04:45:08,360 --> 04:45:08,771
covid and in the 1970s the City

9254
04:45:08,771 --> 04:45:12,371
Council did the same thing when

9255
04:45:12,508 --> 04:45:13,175
there was a huge development

9256
04:45:13,175 --> 04:45:13,842
without infrastructure taken

9257
04:45:13,842 --> 04:45:15,842
into consideration following

9258
04:45:18,247 --> 04:45:18,914
said moratorium the city should

9259
04:45:18,914 --> 04:45:21,884
repeal the bonus edu and sga

9260
04:45:21,884 --> 04:45:22,517
state laws are sufficient

9261
04:45:22,517 --> 04:45:23,185
enough to accomplish what

9262
04:45:23,185 --> 04:45:23,619
the city is seeking which is

9263
04:45:23,619 --> 04:45:25,619
more housing.

9264
04:45:27,155 --> 04:45:27,856
The moratorium would also help

9265
04:45:27,856 --> 04:45:28,491
the City Council current issue

9266
04:45:28,491 --> 04:45:31,491
that they are facing with

9267
04:45:32,594 --> 04:45:33,295
the state which is if you vote

9268
04:45:33,295 --> 04:45:36,895
in favor of the amendments you

9269
04:45:37,433 --> 04:45:38,300
might be violating state laws.

9270
04:45:38,300 --> 04:45:41,900
If you don't, who knows what

9271
04:45:42,171 --> 04:45:42,872
that letter As a real estate

9272
04:45:42,872 --> 04:45:46,472
attorney the bonus edu and aca

9273
04:45:46,842 --> 04:45:47,510
were poorly written and

9274
04:45:47,510 --> 04:45:47,977
actually violate other city

9275
04:45:47,977 --> 04:45:48,577
municipal codes.

9276
04:45:48,577 --> 04:45:50,977
Fire codes among others

9277
04:45:52,647 --> 04:45:53,315
contradict three laws lead to a

9278
04:45:53,315 --> 04:45:54,490
floodgate of litigation and

9279
04:45:54,490 --> 04:45:56,518
the city paying out millions of

9280
04:45:56,518 --> 04:45:57,153
settlements for negligence

9281
04:45:57,153 --> 04:45:57,853
claims that are inevitable

9282
04:45:57,853 --> 04:46:00,853
given the fire, emergency and

9283
04:46:02,224 --> 04:46:02,892
safety concerns that your

9284
04:46:02,892 --> 04:46:03,225
constituents have repeatedly

9285
04:46:03,225 --> 04:46:03,859
reeser.

9286
04:46:03,859 --> 04:46:04,293
And who's going to pay for

9287
04:46:04,293 --> 04:46:06,293
those claims?

9288
04:46:09,310 --> 04:46:09,597
The citizens not the developers

9289
04:46:09,597 --> 04:46:10,199
Further stating that

9290
04:46:10,199 --> 04:46:10,833
the removal of the bonus

9291
04:46:10,833 --> 04:46:13,233
program would prevent low

9292
04:46:15,360 --> 04:46:15,771
income people from living in

9293
04:46:15,771 --> 04:46:16,405
the wealthiest neighborhoods is

9294
04:46:16,405 --> 04:46:17,106
not a good faith argument.

9295
04:46:17,106 --> 04:46:19,641
The 80 used in those areas are

9296
04:46:19,641 --> 04:46:20,760
not actually going to low

9297
04:46:20,760 --> 04:46:20,643
income people.

9298
04:46:20,643 --> 04:46:21,276
So in summary vote for

9299
04:46:21,276 --> 04:46:23,676
the amendments however you

9300
04:46:24,947 --> 04:46:25,614
choose But the main thing is do

9301
04:46:25,614 --> 04:46:26,314
a moratorium then repeal

9302
04:46:26,314 --> 04:46:28,314
the laws.

9303
04:46:30,553 --> 04:46:32,553
>> Thank you.

9304
04:46:36,459 --> 04:46:36,992
Ramsay's Laura.

9305
04:46:36,992 --> 04:46:37,526
All right.

9306
04:46:37,526 --> 04:46:37,927
Are ready to go.

9307
04:46:37,927 --> 04:46:39,927
Hmm.

9308
04:46:41,697 --> 04:46:42,265
I believe that aliens do in

9309
04:46:42,265 --> 04:46:42,965
fact have a future in

9310
04:46:42,965 --> 04:46:43,532
the development of low income

9311
04:46:43,532 --> 04:46:45,932
housing in San Diego.

9312
04:46:46,802 --> 04:46:47,369
However, we all know that there

9313
04:46:47,369 --> 04:46:48,103
are Band-Aid fixes to

9314
04:46:48,103 --> 04:46:51,103
the systemic issue of predatory

9315
04:46:51,307 --> 04:46:51,640
landlords and excessive rental

9316
04:46:51,640 --> 04:46:52,308
prices.

9317
04:46:52,308 --> 04:46:55,244
Yes, we have a supply supply

9318
04:46:55,244 --> 04:46:55,945
shortage but there is no way

9319
04:46:55,945 --> 04:46:56,646
that within the next five and

9320
04:46:56,646 --> 04:46:57,346
ten years that we're going to

9321
04:46:57,346 --> 04:47:00,282
be able to out build that

9322
04:47:00,282 --> 04:47:01,500
housing shortage.

9323
04:47:01,500 --> 04:47:03,450
Additional housing has no

9324
04:47:05,488 --> 04:47:06,189
utilitarian benefit.

9325
04:47:06,189 --> 04:47:06,889
If low income renters and

9326
04:47:06,889 --> 04:47:09,889
families can't even afford to

9327
04:47:10,459 --> 04:47:11,327
live in a shack in someone's

9328
04:47:11,327 --> 04:47:12,610
backyard, what we need to be

9329
04:47:12,610 --> 04:47:12,762
doing is taking power away from

9330
04:47:12,762 --> 04:47:16,320
the landlords who own the city

9331
04:47:16,320 --> 04:47:16,499
and redistribute it back to low

9332
04:47:16,499 --> 04:47:17,990
income families.

9333
04:47:17,990 --> 04:47:17,767
If we can now implement

9334
04:47:17,767 --> 04:47:20,167
traditional rent control to

9335
04:47:20,369 --> 04:47:21,700
keep these landlords in check

9336
04:47:21,700 --> 04:47:21,737
then at the very least we need

9337
04:47:21,737 --> 04:47:24,137
to increase landlord income

9338
04:47:24,874 --> 04:47:25,741
taxes on properties that are

9339
04:47:25,741 --> 04:47:29,941
going to be high luxury tax or

9340
04:47:30,780 --> 04:47:33,780
high rent luxury properties and

9341
04:47:34,617 --> 04:47:35,317
increase in taxes to this

9342
04:47:35,317 --> 04:47:37,717
economic class would encourage

9343
04:47:38,320 --> 04:47:39,188
lowering of rental prices.

9344
04:47:39,188 --> 04:47:42,788
>> If and only if this Council

9345
04:47:43,626 --> 04:47:44,327
is willing to enforce that.

9346
04:47:44,327 --> 04:47:44,660
Thank you for that concluding

9347
04:47:44,660 --> 04:47:46,660
comment.

9348
04:47:48,831 --> 04:47:49,598
Sage Gonzalez Spalding.

9349
04:47:49,598 --> 04:47:50,199
And then Julie Garson if you

9350
04:47:50,199 --> 04:47:52,935
can please come up to

9351
04:47:52,935 --> 04:47:53,402
the yellow reserved seats.

9352
04:47:53,402 --> 04:47:53,669
Please proceed.

9353
04:47:53,669 --> 04:47:54,236
Hi.

9354
04:47:54,236 --> 04:47:56,236
Thank you, Counsel.

9355
04:47:58,541 --> 04:48:02,741
I just wanted to say thank you

9356
04:48:03,790 --> 04:48:03,812
because without this program

9357
04:48:03,812 --> 04:48:04,479
that you all have implemented I

9358
04:48:04,479 --> 04:48:07,479
wouldn't have gotten to know

9359
04:48:10,386 --> 04:48:11,870
all of my neighbors and all of

9360
04:48:11,870 --> 04:48:14,687
these people who have stood up

9361
04:48:14,690 --> 04:48:15,324
with me and me with them to to

9362
04:48:15,324 --> 04:48:17,724
fight against this thing.

9363
04:48:19,695 --> 04:48:20,296
I really hope that you

9364
04:48:20,296 --> 04:48:22,296
implement the community

9365
04:48:24,833 --> 04:48:25,701
planning groups again because I

9366
04:48:25,701 --> 04:48:28,905
think that as a city we are so

9367
04:48:28,905 --> 04:48:29,705
large and so big that you

9368
04:48:29,705 --> 04:48:32,705
really need the communities to

9369
04:48:39,480 --> 04:48:39,749
be consistently together and

9370
04:48:39,749 --> 04:48:40,450
working to help all the things

9371
04:48:40,450 --> 04:48:43,450
And the unhoused for example,

9372
04:48:44,200 --> 04:48:44,487
you know we in Encanto we have

9373
04:48:44,487 --> 04:48:45,421
a lot of space.

9374
04:48:45,421 --> 04:48:48,924
Maybe we maybe we do something

9375
04:48:48,924 --> 04:48:49,892
interesting, right, to help

9376
04:48:49,892 --> 04:48:53,963
those people be able to live in

9377
04:48:53,963 --> 04:48:55,963
our communities anyway.

9378
04:49:00,803 --> 04:49:01,771
>> Julie Hello.

9379
04:49:01,771 --> 04:49:04,171
>> Please don't destroy San

9380
04:49:05,541 --> 04:49:05,941
Diego forever with this bad

9381
04:49:05,941 --> 04:49:06,709
experiment.

9382
04:49:06,709 --> 04:49:10,780
I urge you to vote no on

9383
04:49:10,780 --> 04:49:11,481
the bonus Adu program Max it

9384
04:49:11,481 --> 04:49:15,810
out at four four foot setback

9385
04:49:15,451 --> 04:49:16,520
one parking for Adu.

9386
04:49:16,520 --> 04:49:16,585
We need height limits.

9387
04:49:16,585 --> 04:49:17,320
But please, please.

9388
04:49:17,320 --> 04:49:20,823
San Diego is a beautiful place.

9389
04:49:20,823 --> 04:49:21,458
If you vote on this it will

9390
04:49:21,458 --> 04:49:22,157
destroy San Diego forever.

9391
04:49:22,157 --> 04:49:22,492
We'll never be able to take it

9392
04:49:22,492 --> 04:49:24,492
back.

9393
04:49:28,864 --> 04:49:29,566
Thank you for that concludes

9394
04:49:29,566 --> 04:49:30,266
public comment here in council

9395
04:49:30,266 --> 04:49:33,266
chambers I'm now going to

9396
04:49:33,870 --> 04:49:34,604
the remote participation.

9397
04:49:34,604 --> 04:49:37,400
We currently have 1819 speakers

9398
04:49:38,975 --> 04:49:39,742
with their hands raised.

9399
04:49:39,742 --> 04:49:42,142
Starting with Ryan o'Connell

9400
04:49:42,312 --> 04:49:42,812
you will have one minute.

9401
04:49:42,812 --> 04:49:44,812
>> Please proceed.

9402
04:49:47,217 --> 04:49:47,985
My name is Ryan o'Connell and

9403
04:49:47,985 --> 04:49:48,684
I'm calling in support of

9404
04:49:48,684 --> 04:49:51,840
the 15 proposed amendments to

9405
04:49:51,888 --> 04:49:52,689
implement state law especially

9406
04:49:52,689 --> 04:49:53,355
allowing aids to be sold to

9407
04:49:53,355 --> 04:49:55,391
starter homes in opposition

9408
04:49:55,391 --> 04:49:55,859
Under the amendments 14 through

9409
04:49:55,859 --> 04:49:56,626
22 and 24.

9410
04:49:56,626 --> 04:49:57,227
And I agree with everybody is

9411
04:49:57,227 --> 04:49:59,627
urge you to represent

9412
04:50:01,297 --> 04:50:01,965
the people who live in these

9413
04:50:01,965 --> 04:50:02,666
neighborhoods above special

9414
04:50:02,666 --> 04:50:04,767
interest like people like me.

9415
04:50:04,767 --> 04:50:05,634
How do you.

9416
04:50:05,634 --> 04:50:06,403
And to that end, when you build

9417
04:50:06,403 --> 04:50:10,300
17 units on a cul de sac,

9418
04:50:10,273 --> 04:50:11,174
the majority of the residents

9419
04:50:11,174 --> 04:50:11,508
of that cul de sac now live in

9420
04:50:11,508 --> 04:50:13,508
ag use.

9421
04:50:14,210 --> 04:50:14,778
These are real homes.

9422
04:50:14,778 --> 04:50:15,378
They're not monstrous.

9423
04:50:15,378 --> 04:50:17,378
They're modest duplexes.

9424
04:50:19,810 --> 04:50:19,949
And I have been able to visit

9425
04:50:19,949 --> 04:50:20,650
them and see some of that even

9426
04:50:20,650 --> 04:50:24,250
though I've never worked on a

9427
04:50:24,621 --> 04:50:25,254
project that size And I'm sure

9428
04:50:25,254 --> 04:50:25,989
the tpi example and other

9429
04:50:25,989 --> 04:50:26,589
speaker brought up earlier gave

9430
04:50:26,589 --> 04:50:28,989
some of y'all flashbacks

9431
04:50:29,590 --> 04:50:29,758
The process matters or this

9432
04:50:29,758 --> 04:50:30,393
stuff and you keep bringing it

9433
04:50:30,393 --> 04:50:31,610
back to council because of

9434
04:50:31,610 --> 04:50:33,461
procedural issues like that

9435
04:50:34,640 --> 04:50:34,731
Brown Act violation.

9436
04:50:34,731 --> 04:50:35,432
And the more time goes by

9437
04:50:35,432 --> 04:50:36,320
the more your voters are going

9438
04:50:36,320 --> 04:50:39,320
to be living in those

9439
04:50:39,335 --> 04:50:40,360
affordable bonus ads.

9440
04:50:40,360 --> 04:50:40,570
So consider directing staff to

9441
04:50:40,570 --> 04:50:41,270
find ways to improve

9442
04:50:41,270 --> 04:50:43,670
the infrastructure and transit

9443
04:50:44,608 --> 04:50:45,750
in those areas where they're

9444
04:50:45,750 --> 04:50:45,742
being entitled.

9445
04:50:45,742 --> 04:50:46,410
And thanks for all the hard

9446
04:50:46,410 --> 04:50:47,430
work on doing all this stuff

9447
04:50:47,430 --> 04:50:49,110
and weighing the important

9448
04:50:49,110 --> 04:50:49,913
things your time has concluded.

9449
04:50:49,913 --> 04:50:52,913
>> Patti if you can please

9450
04:50:54,183 --> 04:50:54,451
unmute Pat I can unmute for

9451
04:50:54,451 --> 04:50:54,884
you.

9452
04:50:54,884 --> 04:50:56,586
There you are.

9453
04:50:56,586 --> 04:51:00,186
You did unmute and then muted

9454
04:51:01,958 --> 04:51:02,826
again.

9455
04:51:02,826 --> 04:51:05,829
>> I'm sorry I can't limit for

9456
04:51:05,829 --> 04:51:06,529
you if you can I one have to

9457
04:51:06,529 --> 04:51:07,396
hold it down the whole time or

9458
04:51:07,396 --> 04:51:10,734
we can hear you now Please

9459
04:51:10,734 --> 04:51:11,568
proceed.

9460
04:51:11,568 --> 04:51:12,302
Well I just want to say I'm

9461
04:51:12,302 --> 04:51:15,302
distraught at facing the future

9462
04:51:15,872 --> 04:51:16,472
for my little cul de sac

9463
04:51:16,472 --> 04:51:17,206
community in Claremont.

9464
04:51:17,206 --> 04:51:20,100
Already our peace and quiet and

9465
04:51:20,100 --> 04:51:20,676
safety has been permanently

9466
04:51:20,676 --> 04:51:23,760
compromised by a 12 unit

9467
04:51:25,215 --> 04:51:26,183
apartment building being built

9468
04:51:26,183 --> 04:51:29,386
two doors from me where once a

9469
04:51:29,386 --> 04:51:29,820
single one storey family owned

9470
04:51:29,820 --> 04:51:30,453
home existed.

9471
04:51:30,453 --> 04:51:32,853
I tried to understand

9472
04:51:33,689 --> 04:51:34,391
the amendments but that was

9473
04:51:34,391 --> 04:51:35,910
like a water spout of acronym

9474
04:51:35,910 --> 04:51:37,491
acronyms and enormous detail.

9475
04:51:38,828 --> 04:51:39,529
So I'm unsure what exactly will

9476
04:51:39,529 --> 04:51:43,129
be allowed or disallowed in my

9477
04:51:43,567 --> 04:51:44,334
cul de sac.

9478
04:51:44,334 --> 04:51:46,734
Well the 12 unit apartments

9479
04:51:47,436 --> 04:51:48,238
going up be required to provide

9480
04:51:48,238 --> 04:51:49,106
12 off street parking spaces.

9481
04:51:49,106 --> 04:51:52,706
We are nowhere near a transit

9482
04:51:52,976 --> 04:51:53,843
center.

9483
04:51:53,843 --> 04:51:57,347
Well we have to face more use

9484
04:51:57,347 --> 04:51:57,648
on our already congested street

9485
04:51:57,648 --> 04:51:58,415
.

9486
04:51:58,415 --> 04:51:59,383
I believe bonus use should not

9487
04:51:59,383 --> 04:52:02,118
be allowed on cul de sacs and

9488
04:52:02,118 --> 04:52:02,819
accessory restricted

9489
04:52:02,819 --> 04:52:03,186
communities because of safety

9490
04:52:03,186 --> 04:52:05,186
concerns.

9491
04:52:07,357 --> 04:52:08,580
How do we know what are

9492
04:52:08,580 --> 04:52:08,758
the final decisions regarding

9493
04:52:08,758 --> 04:52:11,758
use on our specific addresses?

9494
04:52:12,290 --> 04:52:12,729
Well we have a way to find out.

9495
04:52:12,729 --> 04:52:15,729
One last comment The so-called

9496
04:52:16,600 --> 04:52:17,267
rent restrictions for

9497
04:52:17,267 --> 04:52:19,667
affordable housing are over

9498
04:52:21,138 --> 04:52:21,471
market rates $2,300 for a

9499
04:52:21,471 --> 04:52:22,500
studio.

9500
04:52:22,500 --> 04:52:24,500
Time has concluded.

9501
04:52:27,578 --> 04:52:28,110
My apologies, Sallie Small

9502
04:52:28,110 --> 04:52:30,110
Sallie Small?

9503
04:52:33,350 --> 04:52:33,851
>> Yep.

9504
04:52:33,851 --> 04:52:34,218
Finally showed up.

9505
04:52:34,218 --> 04:52:34,618
Thank you.

9506
04:52:34,618 --> 04:52:36,618
All righty.

9507
04:52:37,754 --> 04:52:38,722
Four means for pretty basic.

9508
04:52:38,722 --> 04:52:42,922
As it stands now, you know what

9509
04:52:43,359 --> 04:52:44,270
the people are thinking Granny

9510
04:52:44,270 --> 04:52:44,494
Flats and Casitas for our

9511
04:52:44,494 --> 04:52:46,494
family members.

9512
04:52:48,197 --> 04:52:48,899
Fine apartment buildings on cul

9513
04:52:48,899 --> 04:52:52,202
de sacs and fire zones not

9514
04:52:52,202 --> 04:52:52,936
close to transit.

9515
04:52:52,936 --> 04:52:53,636
Transit that's not currently

9516
04:52:53,636 --> 04:52:56,360
existing doesn't work without

9517
04:52:57,908 --> 04:52:58,575
parking available now No trees

9518
04:52:58,575 --> 04:52:59,176
needed, no need to notify or

9519
04:52:59,176 --> 04:53:01,176
consult your neighbors.

9520
04:53:02,946 --> 04:53:04,946
>> Consider community planning

9521
04:53:07,384 --> 04:53:08,850
groups if even your your

9522
04:53:08,850 --> 04:53:11,850
PRESIDENT Is not helping in

9523
04:53:12,723 --> 04:53:13,323
that area that he was part of

9524
04:53:13,323 --> 04:53:14,240
for eight new apartment

9525
04:53:14,240 --> 04:53:17,240
complexes and low income older

9526
04:53:17,861 --> 04:53:18,529
and bipoc communities by greedy

9527
04:53:18,529 --> 04:53:19,229
investors who have no cares

9528
04:53:19,229 --> 04:53:21,999
about the local situation for

9529
04:53:21,999 --> 04:53:22,699
the people the infrastructure,

9530
04:53:22,699 --> 04:53:26,299
the distance to jobs let alone

9531
04:53:27,360 --> 04:53:30,636
that they are in fires zones,

9532
04:53:32,309 --> 04:53:32,643
single lane access roads, cul

9533
04:53:32,643 --> 04:53:33,276
de sacs.

9534
04:53:33,276 --> 04:53:33,643
What more do you want?

9535
04:53:33,643 --> 04:53:35,643
Oh money.

9536
04:53:37,514 --> 04:53:38,480
That's all it is.

9537
04:53:38,480 --> 04:53:38,649
>> It's money.

9538
04:53:38,649 --> 04:53:40,283
Forget the communities.

9539
04:53:40,283 --> 04:53:41,251
Your time has concluded.

9540
04:53:41,251 --> 04:53:44,251
>> Dante, if you can please

9541
04:53:46,256 --> 04:53:46,957
unmute.

9542
04:53:46,957 --> 04:53:47,658
Good evening, Council members.

9543
04:53:47,658 --> 04:53:49,593
My name is Dante Goldman with

9544
04:53:49,593 --> 04:53:49,993
the San Diego Housing

9545
04:53:49,993 --> 04:53:50,594
Federation.

9546
04:53:50,594 --> 04:53:51,195
Since 1990 we have been

9547
04:53:51,195 --> 04:53:51,929
the voice for affordable

9548
04:53:51,929 --> 04:53:54,898
housing solutions and those who

9549
04:53:54,898 --> 04:53:55,299
develop affordable homes across

9550
04:53:55,299 --> 04:53:55,899
our region.

9551
04:53:55,899 --> 04:53:56,533
We support policies that

9552
04:53:56,533 --> 04:53:57,134
reverse our housing crisis

9553
04:53:57,134 --> 04:53:59,534
especially for our most

9554
04:54:00,300 --> 04:54:00,738
vulnerable community members.

9555
04:54:00,738 --> 04:54:01,404
The new homeowners program has

9556
04:54:01,404 --> 04:54:02,720
been a nationally recognized

9557
04:54:02,720 --> 04:54:04,720
success creating affordable

9558
04:54:05,342 --> 04:54:05,709
homes without dwindling public

9559
04:54:05,709 --> 04:54:06,410
subsidies.

9560
04:54:06,410 --> 04:54:06,977
We're in a housing emergency.

9561
04:54:06,977 --> 04:54:10,514
Now is not the time to

9562
04:54:10,514 --> 04:54:11,248
backpedal on what works.

9563
04:54:11,248 --> 04:54:11,915
Decades ago, missing little

9564
04:54:11,915 --> 04:54:12,516
housing like duplexes, areas

9565
04:54:12,516 --> 04:54:14,516
and courtyard apartments

9566
04:54:14,654 --> 04:54:15,319
provided naturally a core

9567
04:54:15,319 --> 04:54:15,952
naturally occurring form of

9568
04:54:15,952 --> 04:54:18,352
homes at moderate density.

9569
04:54:18,755 --> 04:54:19,423
But by the 1960s inclusionary

9570
04:54:19,423 --> 04:54:20,570
zoning took over pushing out

9571
04:54:20,570 --> 04:54:22,570
working families, banning

9572
04:54:24,328 --> 04:54:25,950
multi-unit housing and locking

9573
04:54:25,950 --> 04:54:25,395
in sprawl across much of San

9574
04:54:25,395 --> 04:54:26,960
Diego.

9575
04:54:26,960 --> 04:54:28,632
The A.D. Homebuyers program is

9576
04:54:28,632 --> 04:54:29,333
undoing that harm, allowing

9577
04:54:29,333 --> 04:54:30,330
modest low cost homes without

9578
04:54:30,330 --> 04:54:30,701
doing any public subsidies in

9579
04:54:30,701 --> 04:54:31,680
neighborhoods that once shut

9580
04:54:31,680 --> 04:54:33,680
them out.

9581
04:54:33,804 --> 04:54:34,505
They represent smart infill

9582
04:54:34,505 --> 04:54:35,380
growth that meets our climate

9583
04:54:35,380 --> 04:54:35,739
and mobility goals.

9584
04:54:35,739 --> 04:54:38,139
Any reforms amendments should

9585
04:54:39,443 --> 04:54:40,143
strengthen not weaken.

9586
04:54:40,143 --> 04:54:40,877
The real bonds program in this

9587
04:54:40,877 --> 04:54:41,178
crisis Need more solutions, not

9588
04:54:41,178 --> 04:54:42,913
fewer.

9589
04:54:42,913 --> 04:54:43,413
Thank you for your time.

9590
04:54:43,413 --> 04:54:44,470
>> Thank you.

9591
04:54:44,470 --> 04:54:44,648
The five minute timer has

9592
04:54:44,648 --> 04:54:46,648
included hearing council

9593
04:54:48,850 --> 04:54:48,819
chambers.

9594
04:54:48,819 --> 04:54:49,186
We have 19 speakers with their

9595
04:54:49,186 --> 04:54:49,887
hands up.

9596
04:54:49,887 --> 04:54:50,388
No additional speakers will be

9597
04:54:50,388 --> 04:54:52,388
taken after that.

9598
04:54:52,590 --> 04:54:56,190
Newell Boothe If you can please

9599
04:54:57,795 --> 04:54:58,562
unmute.

9600
04:54:58,562 --> 04:54:59,195
>> My name is Newell Booth.

9601
04:54:59,195 --> 04:55:01,532
i live in Elsa Brito.

9602
04:55:01,532 --> 04:55:02,166
Something that has not been

9603
04:55:02,166 --> 04:55:04,566
mentioned before I support

9604
04:55:06,203 --> 04:55:07,710
the fair is fair everywhere.

9605
04:55:07,710 --> 04:55:10,671
I do this because it changes

9606
04:55:11,308 --> 04:55:12,760
the incentives from large

9607
04:55:12,760 --> 04:55:15,760
numbers of ideas to larger

9608
04:55:16,546 --> 04:55:17,381
heads issues.

9609
04:55:17,381 --> 04:55:20,981
This will allow us to bring

9610
04:55:21,552 --> 04:55:22,860
families back in to the single

9611
04:55:22,860 --> 04:55:22,586
family neighborhood.

9612
04:55:22,586 --> 04:55:23,200
Thank you for your

9613
04:55:23,200 --> 04:55:24,889
consideration.

9614
04:55:24,889 --> 04:55:27,889
Please support for us Fair

9615
04:55:29,693 --> 04:55:30,527
everywhere.

9616
04:55:30,527 --> 04:55:30,962
Thank you Julie If you can

9617
04:55:30,962 --> 04:55:32,962
please unmute.

9618
04:55:34,532 --> 04:55:35,980
Julie Gilbert.

9619
04:55:35,980 --> 04:55:35,833
>> There you go.

9620
04:55:35,833 --> 04:55:38,233
Good afternoon Council members.

9621
04:55:38,902 --> 04:55:39,569
I'm Julie Gilbert Carley I'm a

9622
04:55:39,569 --> 04:55:40,304
fifth generation native San

9623
04:55:40,304 --> 04:55:44,141
Diego and and I'm asking you to

9624
04:55:44,141 --> 04:55:44,709
fully repeal the Adu home

9625
04:55:44,709 --> 04:55:45,409
density bonus program.

9626
04:55:45,409 --> 04:55:48,790
This program is turned single

9627
04:55:48,790 --> 04:55:48,612
family neighborhoods into

9628
04:55:48,612 --> 04:55:49,247
construction zones.

9629
04:55:49,247 --> 04:55:51,647
Developers are cramming in

9630
04:55:53,284 --> 04:55:53,951
multiple units on small lots

9631
04:55:53,951 --> 04:55:54,285
with no concern for parking

9632
04:55:54,285 --> 04:55:56,285
traffic.

9633
04:55:58,550 --> 04:55:58,389
And most of all community

9634
04:55:58,389 --> 04:55:59,560
impact.

9635
04:55:59,560 --> 04:55:59,790
The streets are overcrowded,

9636
04:55:59,790 --> 04:56:02,190
emergency access is compromised

9637
04:56:03,528 --> 04:56:04,262
and residents are being pushed

9638
04:56:04,262 --> 04:56:04,695
out by overdevelopment in their

9639
04:56:04,695 --> 04:56:06,695
own backyards.

9640
04:56:08,699 --> 04:56:09,300
This isn't smart growth It's a

9641
04:56:09,300 --> 04:56:09,933
giveaway to builders at

9642
04:56:09,933 --> 04:56:10,534
the expense of livability,

9643
04:56:10,534 --> 04:56:12,534
safety and neighborhood

9644
04:56:13,504 --> 04:56:14,205
integrity.

9645
04:56:14,205 --> 04:56:14,906
I support reasonable housing

9646
04:56:14,906 --> 04:56:17,906
solutions but this program is

9647
04:56:18,842 --> 04:56:19,544
not it.

9648
04:56:19,544 --> 04:56:20,244
Please repeal the Bonus adu

9649
04:56:20,244 --> 04:56:20,711
program and restore balance to

9650
04:56:20,711 --> 04:56:22,711
our communities.

9651
04:56:23,514 --> 04:56:24,150
Thank you.

9652
04:56:24,150 --> 04:56:26,150
>> Thank you.

9653
04:56:27,752 --> 04:56:28,520
Next is phone number ending.

9654
04:56:28,520 --> 04:56:30,520
Sorry.

9655
04:56:32,123 --> 04:56:34,523
Phone number ending in 69326932

9656
04:56:35,693 --> 04:56:39,196
If you can please unmute star

9657
04:56:39,196 --> 04:56:41,196
six.

9658
04:56:43,670 --> 04:56:46,667
I can on mute for you.

9659
04:56:47,939 --> 04:56:49,600
>> It is star six to unmute.

9660
04:56:49,600 --> 04:56:53,206
>> I will have to move on to

9661
04:57:01,118 --> 04:57:02,860
the next caller.

9662
04:57:02,860 --> 04:57:05,686
The original if you can please

9663
04:57:06,123 --> 04:57:08,123
unmute.

9664
04:57:11,796 --> 04:57:12,563
>> Isn't it great when page

9665
04:57:12,563 --> 04:57:13,431
shills like call in or even are

9666
04:57:13,431 --> 04:57:16,567
there and like you know put

9667
04:57:16,567 --> 04:57:17,302
their $0.02 in.

9668
04:57:17,302 --> 04:57:18,200
So interesting because you guys

9669
04:57:18,200 --> 04:57:21,602
should be taking this back to

9670
04:57:21,606 --> 04:57:22,239
the drawing board as opposed to

9671
04:57:22,239 --> 04:57:22,973
continuing down this path

9672
04:57:22,973 --> 04:57:25,643
making sure that you're are you

9673
04:57:25,643 --> 04:57:26,311
trying to give reasons for

9674
04:57:26,311 --> 04:57:27,110
people to actually leave San

9675
04:57:27,110 --> 04:57:30,611
Diego Because that seems to be

9676
04:57:30,982 --> 04:57:31,716
what you're doing if you guys

9677
04:57:31,716 --> 04:57:32,449
actually when you start hearing

9678
04:57:32,449 --> 04:57:32,916
you talk about you want to have

9679
04:57:32,916 --> 04:57:34,916
community input.

9680
04:57:36,254 --> 04:57:36,854
This probably would have been a

9681
04:57:36,854 --> 04:57:37,589
good idea to go to

9682
04:57:37,589 --> 04:57:40,910
the communities that you wanted

9683
04:57:40,910 --> 04:57:40,825
to put this in to make sure

9684
04:57:40,825 --> 04:57:41,525
that it was even something that

9685
04:57:41,525 --> 04:57:44,525
is feasible to happen because

9686
04:57:44,562 --> 04:57:45,363
what's happening is complete

9687
04:57:45,363 --> 04:57:48,363
chaos and you are literally

9688
04:57:49,800 --> 04:57:50,568
incentivizing by continuing

9689
04:57:50,568 --> 04:57:51,269
this for people to leave their

9690
04:57:51,269 --> 04:57:51,936
communities because as you've

9691
04:57:51,936 --> 04:57:54,936
heard the people talk about

9692
04:57:56,107 --> 04:57:56,774
it's actually ruining what they

9693
04:57:56,774 --> 04:57:59,174
moved into their communities

9694
04:58:00,110 --> 04:58:00,812
for And all it's doing is

9695
04:58:00,812 --> 04:58:04,412
creating a fire hazard and all

9696
04:58:05,490 --> 04:58:05,817
of this stuff like wouldn't it

9697
04:58:05,817 --> 04:58:06,451
be more logical if you guys

9698
04:58:06,451 --> 04:58:09,451
wanted to, you know, have

9699
04:58:10,755 --> 04:58:11,155
better air quality if you were

9700
04:58:11,155 --> 04:58:11,823
spread out?

9701
04:58:11,823 --> 04:58:12,423
>> Not densely populated but

9702
04:58:12,423 --> 04:58:14,725
whatever good timing is

9703
04:58:14,725 --> 04:58:16,725
concluded Nexus six 1672.

9704
04:58:19,431 --> 04:58:22,431
If you can please unmute.

9705
04:58:24,201 --> 04:58:24,869
Well I would like so many other

9706
04:58:24,869 --> 04:58:25,603
unpopular policies that this

9707
04:58:25,603 --> 04:58:26,171
board have passed regardless of

9708
04:58:26,171 --> 04:58:28,571
what the people want.

9709
04:58:29,840 --> 04:58:30,240
This to will pass.

9710
04:58:30,240 --> 04:58:30,875
Wake up.

9711
04:58:30,875 --> 04:58:31,409
This isn't about housing.

9712
04:58:31,409 --> 04:58:33,409
It's about control.

9713
04:58:33,744 --> 04:58:34,479
It's about stripping away

9714
04:58:34,479 --> 04:58:35,180
property rights under the guise

9715
04:58:35,180 --> 04:58:37,580
of progress and sustainability

9716
04:58:38,950 --> 04:58:39,316
all in lockstep with the U.N.

9717
04:58:39,316 --> 04:58:40,117
Agenda 21.

9718
04:58:40,117 --> 04:58:43,888
And for those who joined the No

9719
04:58:43,888 --> 04:58:44,589
Kings protest, you protest

9720
04:58:44,589 --> 04:58:46,989
the PRESIDENT While supporting

9721
04:58:48,660 --> 04:58:49,160
local politicians who truly

9722
04:58:49,160 --> 04:58:49,828
rule like King.

9723
04:58:49,828 --> 04:58:50,462
You keep defending a system

9724
04:58:50,462 --> 04:58:53,462
that does not defend you.

9725
04:58:54,990 --> 04:58:54,432
The proof is everywhere in this

9726
04:58:54,432 --> 04:58:55,166
county.

9727
04:58:55,166 --> 04:58:57,566
Anything the government touches

9728
04:58:58,603 --> 04:58:59,170
and claims to help becomes

9729
04:58:59,170 --> 04:58:59,904
worse all by design.

9730
04:58:59,904 --> 04:59:00,572
The vision destruction it's all

9731
04:59:00,572 --> 04:59:02,572
orchestrated to manufacture

9732
04:59:03,875 --> 04:59:04,576
chaos.

9733
04:59:04,576 --> 04:59:05,242
Then they offer solutions that

9734
04:59:05,242 --> 04:59:08,242
give them even more control

9735
04:59:09,213 --> 04:59:09,814
order through chaos.

9736
04:59:09,814 --> 04:59:10,248
That's how they operate.

9737
04:59:10,248 --> 04:59:10,815
Wake up again.

9738
04:59:10,815 --> 04:59:11,516
Their system is done.

9739
04:59:11,516 --> 04:59:13,916
It's corrupt, fraudulent and

9740
04:59:14,850 --> 04:59:14,786
beyond abusive.

9741
04:59:14,786 --> 04:59:15,319
I do not understand.

9742
04:59:15,319 --> 04:59:15,820
Neither should you.

9743
04:59:15,820 --> 04:59:18,220
I do not consent.

9744
04:59:19,157 --> 04:59:19,858
Neither should you.

9745
04:59:19,858 --> 04:59:20,458
And if you're wondering how

9746
04:59:20,458 --> 04:59:23,458
they sleep at night very

9747
04:59:24,863 --> 04:59:25,430
comfortably very compensated.

9748
04:59:25,430 --> 04:59:26,640
>> They've sold out.

9749
04:59:26,640 --> 04:59:26,797
Your time has concluded.

9750
04:59:26,797 --> 04:59:29,797
Blair Beckman, if you can

9751
04:59:31,603 --> 04:59:32,737
please unmute.

9752
04:59:32,737 --> 04:59:35,673
>> Blair Beckman I can mute for

9753
04:59:35,673 --> 04:59:36,640
you.

9754
04:59:36,640 --> 04:59:37,409
I will need to move on to

9755
04:59:37,409 --> 04:59:41,900
the next caller if you can

9756
04:59:45,583 --> 04:59:45,984
unmute.

9757
04:59:45,984 --> 04:59:46,918
>> Margaret.

9758
04:59:46,918 --> 04:59:50,455
Very similar If you can please

9759
04:59:50,455 --> 04:59:50,921
unmute.

9760
04:59:50,921 --> 04:59:51,389
>> Hi.

9761
04:59:51,389 --> 04:59:53,389
Good afternoon.

9762
04:59:55,727 --> 04:59:56,294
I am Margaret Verismo, former

9763
04:59:56,294 --> 04:59:57,280
planning board member,

9764
04:59:57,280 --> 04:59:57,395
community activist representing

9765
04:59:57,395 --> 04:59:59,395
San Diego.

9766
04:59:59,898 --> 05:00:00,599
Look around this room today

9767
05:00:00,599 --> 05:00:01,232
Almost every neighborhood from

9768
05:00:01,232 --> 05:00:01,966
San Diego is in this room.

9769
05:00:01,966 --> 05:00:05,303
Do you all forget you were once

9770
05:00:05,303 --> 05:00:06,370
voted in to your city rolls by

9771
05:00:06,370 --> 05:00:06,738
all these people to protect our

9772
05:00:06,738 --> 05:00:09,738
communities and be the voices

9773
05:00:10,375 --> 05:00:11,760
on the city council.

9774
05:00:11,760 --> 05:00:11,476
At one point these residents

9775
05:00:11,476 --> 05:00:12,476
trusted you.

9776
05:00:12,476 --> 05:00:14,646
Do your job and listen to us to

9777
05:00:14,646 --> 05:00:15,413
protect our communities.

9778
05:00:15,413 --> 05:00:16,280
You are all living or you're

9779
05:00:16,280 --> 05:00:19,517
all lying to San Diego at this

9780
05:00:19,517 --> 05:00:20,850
point because you're all not

9781
05:00:20,850 --> 05:00:20,452
listening to community

9782
05:00:20,452 --> 05:00:21,153
concerns.

9783
05:00:21,153 --> 05:00:23,555
Do the right thing for want to

9784
05:00:23,555 --> 05:00:24,322
listen to all of these people.

9785
05:00:24,322 --> 05:00:25,560
San Diego was once a beautiful

9786
05:00:25,560 --> 05:00:28,560
coastal skyline and now turning

9787
05:00:28,793 --> 05:00:29,461
into Skid Row because of all of

9788
05:00:29,461 --> 05:00:30,128
you and your bad decisions.

9789
05:00:30,128 --> 05:00:33,128
Let's protect what's left of

9790
05:00:33,465 --> 05:00:34,166
the nago, protect what's left

9791
05:00:34,166 --> 05:00:34,900
of our quality of life.

9792
05:00:34,900 --> 05:00:35,667
This whole housing crisis is a

9793
05:00:35,667 --> 05:00:38,970
big lie and we all know it.

9794
05:00:38,970 --> 05:00:39,637
It seems more and more like a

9795
05:00:39,637 --> 05:00:40,339
money grab developer scheme.

9796
05:00:40,339 --> 05:00:42,708
Plenty of high rises are empty

9797
05:00:42,708 --> 05:00:43,442
in San Diego because affordable

9798
05:00:43,442 --> 05:00:44,109
housing doesn't exist and won't

9799
05:00:44,109 --> 05:00:47,109
ever exist for anyone ever.

9800
05:00:48,146 --> 05:00:48,847
If a person wants affordable

9801
05:00:48,847 --> 05:00:49,548
housing you will need to move

9802
05:00:49,548 --> 05:00:50,248
to Texas, Nevada and Arizona.

9803
05:00:50,248 --> 05:00:53,848
Just like many San Diego have

9804
05:00:54,152 --> 05:00:54,919
done, you are all going to make

9805
05:00:54,919 --> 05:00:58,223
cost of living and your taxes

9806
05:00:58,223 --> 05:00:58,690
included during if you can

9807
05:00:58,690 --> 05:00:59,391
please on mute.

9808
05:00:59,391 --> 05:01:01,791
>> During the years during

9809
05:01:03,294 --> 05:01:04,620
the years tamisha I would

9810
05:01:04,620 --> 05:01:07,662
really hope and pray that we

9811
05:01:08,199 --> 05:01:08,867
could get five ethical people

9812
05:01:08,867 --> 05:01:11,867
of the council members that

9813
05:01:12,137 --> 05:01:12,771
would vote no and make

9814
05:01:12,771 --> 05:01:15,171
the Planning department do

9815
05:01:17,342 --> 05:01:18,900
their job and lose In 2000 of

9816
05:01:18,900 --> 05:01:21,900
these comments that we have

9817
05:01:21,346 --> 05:01:22,790
said we do not need to story

9818
05:01:22,790 --> 05:01:22,914
buildings beside one story It's

9819
05:01:22,914 --> 05:01:26,514
going to ruin our guard and

9820
05:01:26,585 --> 05:01:27,552
ruining our neighborhood.

9821
05:01:27,552 --> 05:01:29,952
>> Bonus 80 You is targeting

9822
05:01:31,790 --> 05:01:32,491
community These are concerns

9823
05:01:32,491 --> 05:01:34,891
that lack infrastructure, that

9824
05:01:36,829 --> 05:01:39,229
lack neighborhood pot and

9825
05:01:40,798 --> 05:01:41,467
someday if there is a fire in

9826
05:01:41,467 --> 05:01:44,467
one of these neighborhoods I

9827
05:01:45,471 --> 05:01:46,171
hope you all hold yourself

9828
05:01:46,171 --> 05:01:48,571
accountable for passing this

9829
05:01:51,760 --> 05:01:54,676
measure for is fair But we

9830
05:01:55,880 --> 05:01:56,749
would prefer that state law we

9831
05:01:56,749 --> 05:02:00,349
buy homes to live in single

9832
05:02:00,552 --> 05:02:01,186
family neighborhoods and you

9833
05:02:01,186 --> 05:02:03,586
without secret know about

9834
05:02:04,923 --> 05:02:05,290
the need of your time has

9835
05:02:05,290 --> 05:02:06,910
concluded.

9836
05:02:06,910 --> 05:02:09,910
>> Sorry Nicole if you can

9837
05:02:14,667 --> 05:02:15,501
please unmute Nicole Hello.

9838
05:02:15,501 --> 05:02:16,201
Hello my name is Nicole and I'm

9839
05:02:16,201 --> 05:02:19,201
the executive director of our

9840
05:02:19,437 --> 05:02:19,805
Time to Act Youth led

9841
05:02:19,805 --> 05:02:20,506
Nonprofit.

9842
05:02:20,506 --> 05:02:23,275
We're also in partnership with

9843
05:02:23,275 --> 05:02:24,143
the Coalition for Equitable

9844
05:02:24,143 --> 05:02:24,843
Development and I am a 22 year

9845
05:02:24,843 --> 05:02:25,511
old renter in District three.

9846
05:02:25,511 --> 05:02:27,746
I'm calling in today because

9847
05:02:27,746 --> 05:02:28,447
while some of these reforms

9848
05:02:28,447 --> 05:02:29,114
will meaningfully help better

9849
05:02:29,114 --> 05:02:32,114
the Bonus adu program, there

9850
05:02:32,717 --> 05:02:33,352
are several especially items

9851
05:02:33,352 --> 05:02:34,860
restricting the program's

9852
05:02:34,860 --> 05:02:34,586
efficacy either unit or if they

9853
05:02:34,586 --> 05:02:36,986
are caps that will

9854
05:02:37,456 --> 05:02:37,790
significantly harm San Diego's

9855
05:02:37,790 --> 05:02:38,523
renters.

9856
05:02:38,523 --> 05:02:39,258
The majority of comments given

9857
05:02:39,258 --> 05:02:42,258
today were given by privileged,

9858
05:02:42,728 --> 05:02:43,128
entitled and out of touch

9859
05:02:43,128 --> 05:02:43,795
homeowners.

9860
05:02:43,795 --> 05:02:46,795
These folks do not represent

9861
05:02:47,320 --> 05:02:47,799
the majority of us.

9862
05:02:47,799 --> 05:02:50,736
53% of San Diego are renters

9863
05:02:50,736 --> 05:02:51,700
and 57% of us are rent burdened

9864
05:02:51,700 --> 05:02:51,670
.

9865
05:02:51,670 --> 05:02:52,304
Youth are encouraged by

9866
05:02:52,304 --> 05:02:53,400
the reforms that increase

9867
05:02:53,400 --> 05:02:53,538
the number of rent restricted

9868
05:02:53,538 --> 05:02:55,538
units and introduce

9869
05:02:56,175 --> 05:02:56,909
homeownership opportunity.

9870
05:02:56,909 --> 05:02:57,610
But we are deeply concerned

9871
05:02:57,610 --> 05:02:58,310
with the items that will limit

9872
05:02:58,310 --> 05:03:01,513
the number of these units and

9873
05:03:01,513 --> 05:03:02,114
opportunities.

9874
05:03:02,114 --> 05:03:02,815
Single family zoning was

9875
05:03:02,815 --> 05:03:05,815
created to segregate info like

9876
05:03:06,180 --> 05:03:06,619
ideas help combat

9877
05:03:06,619 --> 05:03:07,190
the preservation of that

9878
05:03:07,190 --> 05:03:07,553
segregation.

9879
05:03:07,553 --> 05:03:08,153
I urge you to amend

9880
05:03:08,153 --> 05:03:10,553
the proposed reforms as

9881
05:03:11,157 --> 05:03:11,857
recommended by the letter sent

9882
05:03:11,857 --> 05:03:12,558
by the Coalition for Equitable

9883
05:03:12,558 --> 05:03:15,558
Development and do not accept

9884
05:03:15,594 --> 05:03:16,195
their proposed reforms as

9885
05:03:16,195 --> 05:03:16,561
presented to you today.

9886
05:03:16,561 --> 05:03:16,961
Thank you.

9887
05:03:16,961 --> 05:03:18,961
Thank you.

9888
05:03:20,332 --> 05:03:20,666
Next is Jeff If you can please

9889
05:03:20,666 --> 05:03:21,399
unmute.

9890
05:03:21,399 --> 05:03:22,100
Again as a reminder if you

9891
05:03:22,100 --> 05:03:24,670
raise your hand after the five

9892
05:03:24,670 --> 05:03:25,471
minute timer concluded we won't

9893
05:03:25,471 --> 05:03:26,138
be able to take your comments

9894
05:03:26,138 --> 05:03:28,507
but you can definitely email

9895
05:03:28,507 --> 05:03:29,174
them in the city Clerk at San

9896
05:03:29,174 --> 05:03:29,574
diego.Gov and they will get

9897
05:03:29,574 --> 05:03:31,574
distributed.

9898
05:03:33,945 --> 05:03:34,513
>> Please proceed to.

9899
05:03:34,513 --> 05:03:35,381
>> Yeah hi.

9900
05:03:35,381 --> 05:03:39,510
The real name of this mess is

9901
05:03:39,510 --> 05:03:39,752
the developer bonus or how do

9902
05:03:39,752 --> 05:03:42,888
they rule on San Diego County

9903
05:03:42,888 --> 05:03:43,589
Council member in favor of this

9904
05:03:43,589 --> 05:03:44,122
is obviously being influenced

9905
05:03:44,122 --> 05:03:46,122
by developer money.

9906
05:03:48,293 --> 05:03:48,594
That's how the game is playing

9907
05:03:48,594 --> 05:03:49,361
.

9908
05:03:49,361 --> 05:03:50,620
Can't you tell you're not being

9909
05:03:50,620 --> 05:03:50,329
right you're not representing

9910
05:03:50,329 --> 05:03:52,329
us?

9911
05:03:53,299 --> 05:03:54,100
Also how can council ignore it

9912
05:03:54,100 --> 05:03:58,237
is being built at the top of a

9913
05:03:58,237 --> 05:03:59,400
virgin steep canyon.

9914
05:03:59,400 --> 05:03:59,805
This so-called bonus mess is

9915
05:03:59,805 --> 05:04:02,742
bad for all communities not

9916
05:04:02,742 --> 05:04:03,375
just don't put neighbors

9917
05:04:03,375 --> 05:04:05,375
against neighbors please.

9918
05:04:07,747 --> 05:04:08,347
Developers will build where

9919
05:04:08,347 --> 05:04:11,347
they can make a profit.

9920
05:04:12,284 --> 05:04:12,618
That's simple Save San Diego,

9921
05:04:12,618 --> 05:04:13,386
please.

9922
05:04:13,386 --> 05:04:16,856
We can't go on like this.

9923
05:04:16,856 --> 05:04:17,489
Obviously this isn't working.

9924
05:04:17,489 --> 05:04:18,900
You've heard enough today.

9925
05:04:18,900 --> 05:04:20,490
Please vote your heart.

9926
05:04:22,428 --> 05:04:23,129
Vote for us here in San Diego

9927
05:04:23,129 --> 05:04:26,129
that are your petty neighbors

9928
05:04:26,699 --> 05:04:27,300
against neighbors And it's just

9929
05:04:27,300 --> 05:04:28,167
shouldn't be that way.

9930
05:04:28,167 --> 05:04:31,767
>> It's bad for all of us.

9931
05:04:33,339 --> 05:04:33,738
Please.

9932
05:04:33,738 --> 05:04:34,173
Thank you.

9933
05:04:34,173 --> 05:04:36,108
Next slide.

9934
05:04:36,108 --> 05:04:39,708
So if you can please unmute.

9935
05:04:42,115 --> 05:04:42,815
So there you go.

9936
05:04:42,815 --> 05:04:45,215
>> Please stand and council

9937
05:04:45,451 --> 05:04:46,219
members I'm Saad Assad and I'm

9938
05:04:46,219 --> 05:04:46,819
a neighbor who is happy to

9939
05:04:46,819 --> 05:04:48,819
welcome more neighbors.

9940
05:04:49,455 --> 05:04:50,256
I first want to thank city

9941
05:04:50,256 --> 05:04:50,923
staff for tackling one of our

9942
05:04:50,923 --> 05:04:51,624
toughest challenges bouncing

9943
05:04:51,624 --> 05:04:54,624
our obvious housing needs with

9944
05:04:54,827 --> 05:04:55,461
longtime homeowner concerns.

9945
05:04:55,461 --> 05:04:56,128
The reality we're facing

9946
05:04:56,128 --> 05:04:58,528
Sobering meaning home prices

9947
05:04:59,966 --> 05:05:00,766
have jumped past few years from

9948
05:05:00,766 --> 05:05:02,935
$630,000 to a million while

9949
05:05:02,935 --> 05:05:03,269
the average rent exceeds

9950
05:05:03,269 --> 05:05:03,970
$3,000.

9951
05:05:03,970 --> 05:05:04,603
That means you need something

9952
05:05:04,603 --> 05:05:07,603
like four times the city's

9953
05:05:07,940 --> 05:05:08,707
minimum wage just to afford

9954
05:05:08,707 --> 05:05:09,374
rent And you can't have a real

9955
05:05:09,374 --> 05:05:12,374
quality of life when housing

9956
05:05:13,278 --> 05:05:13,913
consumes half your income or

9957
05:05:13,913 --> 05:05:14,647
forces our long commutes.

9958
05:05:14,647 --> 05:05:17,283
The Bonus aew program has

9959
05:05:17,283 --> 05:05:17,883
created nearly 900 homes which

9960
05:05:17,883 --> 05:05:18,517
reduces competition for

9961
05:05:18,517 --> 05:05:21,517
existing homes And it adds

9962
05:05:21,687 --> 05:05:22,422
these homes in neighborhoods

9963
05:05:22,422 --> 05:05:25,422
where the admission price enter

9964
05:05:26,459 --> 05:05:27,159
is $180,000 downpayment.

9965
05:05:27,159 --> 05:05:27,860
Unlike other housing program,

9966
05:05:27,860 --> 05:05:30,260
this one specifically focuses

9967
05:05:31,564 --> 05:05:32,231
on bringing smaller affordable

9968
05:05:32,231 --> 05:05:32,831
homes There is dominated by

9969
05:05:32,831 --> 05:05:34,831
large expensive houses.

9970
05:05:36,769 --> 05:05:37,637
Thousands of San Diegans simply

9971
05:05:37,637 --> 05:05:38,271
need a place to live near their

9972
05:05:38,271 --> 05:05:40,506
jobs and the pros program

9973
05:05:40,506 --> 05:05:41,274
delivers exactly that.

9974
05:05:41,274 --> 05:05:44,210
I urge you to preserve it.

9975
05:05:44,210 --> 05:05:47,810
Thank you James If you can

9976
05:05:49,150 --> 05:05:51,150
please unmute James.

9977
05:05:54,453 --> 05:05:55,320
There you go.

9978
05:05:55,320 --> 05:05:56,220
>> You are in muted but we do

9979
05:05:56,220 --> 05:05:56,389
not hear you here in council

9980
05:05:56,389 --> 05:05:57,122
chambers.

9981
05:05:57,122 --> 05:05:57,790
I'm not sure of the device that

9982
05:05:57,790 --> 05:06:00,790
you're speaking in to maybe

9983
05:06:02,160 --> 05:06:04,160
muted.

9984
05:06:04,897 --> 05:06:05,564
James Black I'll give you a

9985
05:06:05,564 --> 05:06:06,165
second to deal with any

9986
05:06:06,165 --> 05:06:08,165
technical difficulties.

9987
05:06:10,360 --> 05:06:14,236
We did not hear you here in

9988
05:06:14,273 --> 05:06:15,341
council chambers.

9989
05:06:15,341 --> 05:06:18,912
I will need to move on to

9990
05:06:18,912 --> 05:06:22,512
the next caller Norton if you

9991
05:06:28,588 --> 05:06:29,389
can please unmute Katherine

9992
05:06:29,389 --> 05:06:30,230
Douglas or is fair everywhere

9993
05:06:30,230 --> 05:06:32,423
throughout the city except

9994
05:06:34,427 --> 05:06:35,280
mission Beach which is have

9995
05:06:35,280 --> 05:06:37,428
zero additional ada use

9996
05:06:38,898 --> 05:06:39,666
unbridled built.

9997
05:06:39,666 --> 05:06:40,266
>> She ceded her time earlier

9998
05:06:40,266 --> 05:06:40,999
today thank you council

9999
05:06:40,999 --> 05:06:43,603
PRESIDENT For catching that you

10000
05:06:43,603 --> 05:06:44,471
had ceded your time earlier

10001
05:06:44,471 --> 05:06:47,573
today Billy if you can please

10002
05:06:47,573 --> 05:06:49,573
unmute.

10003
05:06:53,246 --> 05:06:53,980
>> Okay I, I just want to tell

10004
05:06:53,980 --> 05:06:54,614
the city council that you know,

10005
05:06:54,614 --> 05:06:57,614
just stick with your plan.

10006
05:06:57,817 --> 05:06:58,484
I know it's really hard working

10007
05:06:58,484 --> 05:06:59,185
with you know, these people

10008
05:06:59,185 --> 05:07:01,585
like the neighborhood planning

10009
05:07:04,190 --> 05:07:07,127
Committee who get voted in by a

10010
05:07:07,127 --> 05:07:07,460
few dozen votes not by 10,000

10011
05:07:07,460 --> 05:07:08,950
people.

10012
05:07:08,950 --> 05:07:08,761
I never thought about that

10013
05:07:08,761 --> 05:07:11,161
except the Downtown Planning

10014
05:07:12,132 --> 05:07:12,798
Commission downtown planning

10015
05:07:12,798 --> 05:07:15,798
group which is quote unquote

10016
05:07:17,437 --> 05:07:18,171
owned by the developers.

10017
05:07:18,171 --> 05:07:18,738
You know, that's the only group

10018
05:07:18,738 --> 05:07:19,105
that actually follows

10019
05:07:19,105 --> 05:07:19,772
the rules.

10020
05:07:19,772 --> 05:07:20,206
So it's really hard for you

10021
05:07:20,206 --> 05:07:21,775
guys to work.

10022
05:07:21,775 --> 05:07:22,441
But you know, I hope you do

10023
05:07:22,441 --> 05:07:23,209
your best And you know, it's

10024
05:07:23,209 --> 05:07:26,809
just really hard to talk about.

10025
05:07:27,447 --> 05:07:28,114
It's just really hard for me to

10026
05:07:28,114 --> 05:07:28,815
believe that you got to talk

10027
05:07:28,815 --> 05:07:31,215
about community character when

10028
05:07:31,450 --> 05:07:32,218
groups like Encanto Community

10029
05:07:32,218 --> 05:07:35,218
Planning Group are, you know,

10030
05:07:35,255 --> 05:07:36,121
bought to 57% of their homes

10031
05:07:36,121 --> 05:07:39,826
and there are as one two zones

10032
05:07:39,826 --> 05:07:40,427
not comply with zoning

10033
05:07:40,427 --> 05:07:42,427
restrictions by opposing

10034
05:07:45,332 --> 05:07:46,320
the footnote I just find it

10035
05:07:46,320 --> 05:07:46,700
really hard for me for people

10036
05:07:46,700 --> 05:07:47,467
to trust them and I hope

10037
05:07:47,467 --> 05:07:51,670
the city council does do their

10038
05:07:52,305 --> 05:07:53,380
best.

10039
05:07:53,380 --> 05:07:55,438
>> Next there's one number

10040
05:07:55,442 --> 05:07:58,442
ending in 3856 if you can

10041
05:08:01,548 --> 05:08:03,948
please unmute 3856 Carol this

10042
05:08:06,186 --> 05:08:06,953
is Carol and I'm with Julie.

10043
05:08:06,953 --> 05:08:07,654
I request that you fully repeal

10044
05:08:07,654 --> 05:08:11,254
the adu program and start over

10045
05:08:11,424 --> 05:08:11,992
Zoning matters It creates

10046
05:08:11,992 --> 05:08:12,425
orderly development of

10047
05:08:12,425 --> 05:08:13,590
neighborhoods.

10048
05:08:13,590 --> 05:08:15,395
Public input is essential.

10049
05:08:15,395 --> 05:08:16,960
There are two slides housing

10050
05:08:16,960 --> 05:08:18,998
crisis and climate change and

10051
05:08:18,998 --> 05:08:19,699
the Rob people their private

10052
05:08:19,699 --> 05:08:20,300
property owner separate things

10053
05:08:20,300 --> 05:08:21,330
to be what the goal is.

10054
05:08:21,330 --> 05:08:24,330
I'm in favor of photography

10055
05:08:24,537 --> 05:08:25,271
entities That means I do not

10056
05:08:25,271 --> 05:08:27,974
agree with forth there When you

10057
05:08:27,974 --> 05:08:28,675
buy a home and a single family

10058
05:08:28,675 --> 05:08:29,409
residential neighborhood that

10059
05:08:29,409 --> 05:08:29,709
buyer pays more to live in that

10060
05:08:29,709 --> 05:08:29,976
area.

10061
05:08:29,976 --> 05:08:31,976
Why?

10062
05:08:33,460 --> 05:08:33,780
Because it's more desirable You

10063
05:08:33,780 --> 05:08:34,514
typically have more space, more

10064
05:08:34,514 --> 05:08:35,115
sunlight, more privacy and less

10065
05:08:35,115 --> 05:08:37,515
parking issues and lower

10066
05:08:38,517 --> 05:08:39,186
density.

10067
05:08:39,186 --> 05:08:39,919
They pay more for this.

10068
05:08:39,919 --> 05:08:40,553
This is a taking Without

10069
05:08:40,553 --> 05:08:42,553
compensation The community

10070
05:08:43,890 --> 05:08:44,658
input should be required.

10071
05:08:44,658 --> 05:08:47,658
>> Thank you, Melanie Kahn If

10072
05:08:49,463 --> 05:08:50,163
you can please unmute.

10073
05:08:50,163 --> 05:08:52,563
>> Milliken Yeah, This is

10074
05:08:53,767 --> 05:08:54,167
Melanie Cohen with Viacom,

10075
05:08:54,167 --> 05:08:54,901
California.

10076
05:08:54,901 --> 05:08:55,569
The 80 new program is producing

10077
05:08:55,569 --> 05:08:58,569
needed units for the city's

10078
05:08:58,739 --> 05:08:59,439
life science workforce units

10079
05:08:59,439 --> 05:09:00,140
that are attainable for middle

10080
05:09:00,140 --> 05:09:02,875
income workers who make a good

10081
05:09:02,875 --> 05:09:03,543
wage but can't afford luxury

10082
05:09:03,543 --> 05:09:04,770
apartments or to purchase a

10083
05:09:04,770 --> 05:09:06,770
single family home.

10084
05:09:08,114 --> 05:09:08,815
We know the amendments proposed

10085
05:09:08,815 --> 05:09:09,482
will lower the rate of housing

10086
05:09:09,482 --> 05:09:10,183
that's built and similar to

10087
05:09:10,183 --> 05:09:13,183
the Chambers comments we want

10088
05:09:13,653 --> 05:09:14,354
to know what next steps

10089
05:09:14,354 --> 05:09:18,225
the city is going to take to

10090
05:09:18,225 --> 05:09:18,825
house our workforce to attract

10091
05:09:18,825 --> 05:09:19,192
and retain live science

10092
05:09:19,192 --> 05:09:19,893
employees.

10093
05:09:19,893 --> 05:09:22,762
Contrary to some comments, San

10094
05:09:22,762 --> 05:09:23,530
Diego is actually producing 80

10095
05:09:23,530 --> 05:09:24,398
use at a lower rate per capita

10096
05:09:24,398 --> 05:09:27,998
than other markets such as Los

10097
05:09:28,101 --> 05:09:28,768
Angeles, Long Beach and most

10098
05:09:28,768 --> 05:09:31,768
other cities in this region.

10099
05:09:32,906 --> 05:09:33,607
We support building homes for

10100
05:09:33,607 --> 05:09:34,274
the city's workforce and this

10101
05:09:34,274 --> 05:09:37,874
is one of the only programs

10102
05:09:38,780 --> 05:09:38,779
the city has to restrict units

10103
05:09:38,779 --> 05:09:39,112
to moderate income in order to

10104
05:09:39,112 --> 05:09:41,112
do that.

10105
05:09:42,716 --> 05:09:43,350
So we support building those

10106
05:09:43,350 --> 05:09:43,717
homes for the life science

10107
05:09:43,717 --> 05:09:44,840
community.

10108
05:09:44,840 --> 05:09:46,840
Thank you.

10109
05:09:48,188 --> 05:09:49,222
Next is Rob.

10110
05:09:49,222 --> 05:09:50,490
If you can please mute Rob clap

10111
05:09:50,490 --> 05:09:52,490
us.

10112
05:09:56,963 --> 05:09:57,664
Hello, my name is Robert

10113
05:09:57,664 --> 05:10:00,868
Clubhouse and I am a homeowner

10114
05:10:00,868 --> 05:10:01,734
in Rolando Park in San Diego.

10115
05:10:01,734 --> 05:10:04,938
I moved to San Diego 25 years

10116
05:10:04,938 --> 05:10:05,638
ago and I rented I rented

10117
05:10:05,638 --> 05:10:06,339
apartments throughout the city

10118
05:10:06,339 --> 05:10:10,210
and I know the rents have gone

10119
05:10:10,210 --> 05:10:10,911
up significantly And I heard

10120
05:10:10,911 --> 05:10:11,578
somebody comment earlier that

10121
05:10:11,578 --> 05:10:12,312
I'm a privileged homeowner.

10122
05:10:12,312 --> 05:10:15,448
I am not a privilege homeowner.

10123
05:10:15,448 --> 05:10:16,449
I saved my money, I worked hard

10124
05:10:16,449 --> 05:10:19,353
and I did what I had to do to

10125
05:10:19,353 --> 05:10:20,220
own a home.

10126
05:10:20,220 --> 05:10:20,954
Right now this bonus program is

10127
05:10:20,954 --> 05:10:24,391
taking all of these entry level

10128
05:10:24,391 --> 05:10:25,325
homes off the market.

10129
05:10:25,325 --> 05:10:26,590
It was such a struggle for us

10130
05:10:26,590 --> 05:10:29,329
to find this house but we found

10131
05:10:29,329 --> 05:10:30,970
it and me and my partner bought

10132
05:10:30,970 --> 05:10:30,798
this house with our hard earned

10133
05:10:30,798 --> 05:10:31,532
money And you guys are taking

10134
05:10:31,532 --> 05:10:34,532
all these homes away from

10135
05:10:34,935 --> 05:10:35,802
people that are working hard to

10136
05:10:35,802 --> 05:10:36,670
try to save up and buy a house

10137
05:10:36,670 --> 05:10:39,973
but they can't buy it because

10138
05:10:39,973 --> 05:10:40,607
the developers are buying

10139
05:10:40,607 --> 05:10:41,307
the rest of our affordable

10140
05:10:41,307 --> 05:10:44,907
houses left in San Diego that

10141
05:10:45,450 --> 05:10:45,646
people can buy to build these

10142
05:10:45,646 --> 05:10:47,646
massive adu structures.

10143
05:10:49,116 --> 05:10:49,817
I am opposed to all the 80

10144
05:10:49,817 --> 05:10:50,517
years in the city and I hope

10145
05:10:50,517 --> 05:10:53,153
you guys will do something to

10146
05:10:53,153 --> 05:10:53,854
make this more reasonable so

10147
05:10:53,854 --> 05:10:54,555
that we can have some more

10148
05:10:54,555 --> 05:10:56,955
responsible development in our

10149
05:10:58,792 --> 05:10:59,460
city and not this Your time has

10150
05:10:59,460 --> 05:11:01,860
concluded 4580 If you can

10151
05:11:06,900 --> 05:11:09,900
please unmute 4580 I can unmute

10152
05:11:12,600 --> 05:11:12,873
for you If you can't unmute

10153
05:11:12,873 --> 05:11:17,730
then I'll have to move on to

10154
05:11:18,612 --> 05:11:20,612
our next speaker.

10155
05:11:24,151 --> 05:11:24,451
Hello.

10156
05:11:24,451 --> 05:11:24,985
Hello.

10157
05:11:24,985 --> 05:11:25,518
Yes, please proceed.

10158
05:11:25,518 --> 05:11:27,918
This is Peggy Pink.

10159
05:11:28,155 --> 05:11:29,560
Oh thank you.

10160
05:11:29,560 --> 05:11:32,259
I am interested in the comments

10161
05:11:32,259 --> 05:11:32,959
that we're told While this 80

10162
05:11:32,959 --> 05:11:35,959
thing was passed during covid,

10163
05:11:38,320 --> 05:11:38,465
I was living in Shanghai during

10164
05:11:38,465 --> 05:11:39,199
the shutdown.

10165
05:11:39,199 --> 05:11:42,870
We have a home here in our

10166
05:11:42,870 --> 05:11:43,671
house and the proposal of those

10167
05:11:43,671 --> 05:11:44,371
people that are saying I get

10168
05:11:44,371 --> 05:11:45,710
life science problems here are

10169
05:11:45,710 --> 05:11:48,710
in the life science business.

10170
05:11:48,142 --> 05:11:48,842
I get that you need housing.

10171
05:11:48,842 --> 05:11:49,710
The problem is to mandate that

10172
05:11:49,710 --> 05:11:52,947
what you're looking for is a

10173
05:11:52,947 --> 05:11:53,513
city a city with highrises,

10174
05:11:53,513 --> 05:11:55,513
with tiny apartments.

10175
05:11:57,852 --> 05:11:58,151
So you have people that live

10176
05:11:58,151 --> 05:11:58,686
there.

10177
05:11:58,686 --> 05:12:01,860
It's not a solution.

10178
05:12:02,223 --> 05:12:02,990
It's not a good solution.

10179
05:12:02,990 --> 05:12:05,990
San Diego has single family

10180
05:12:09,960 --> 05:12:09,897
home Poor reason.

10181
05:12:09,897 --> 05:12:10,398
It's to let our community pride

10182
05:12:10,398 --> 05:12:12,398
let families try.

10183
05:12:12,833 --> 05:12:13,434
Yes.

10184
05:12:13,434 --> 05:12:13,834
Well, they'll be young.

10185
05:12:13,834 --> 05:12:14,568
Single, Yes.

10186
05:12:14,568 --> 05:12:17,104
But they can move up the chain

10187
05:12:17,104 --> 05:12:17,905
just like the rest of us did or

10188
05:12:17,905 --> 05:12:18,305
entire life to be able to

10189
05:12:18,305 --> 05:12:20,305
afford one.

10190
05:12:21,609 --> 05:12:22,209
Please repeal the you.

10191
05:12:22,209 --> 05:12:24,609
Please make that change.

10192
05:12:25,679 --> 05:12:26,130
Stop the 15 minute city,

10193
05:12:26,130 --> 05:12:26,380
please.

10194
05:12:26,380 --> 05:12:28,380
Thank you.

10195
05:12:29,650 --> 05:12:32,650
Your time is concluded 6932 If

10196
05:12:34,388 --> 05:12:36,788
you can please unmute.

10197
05:12:37,325 --> 05:12:39,325
Hello.

10198
05:12:43,230 --> 05:12:43,631
>> Please proceed.

10199
05:12:43,631 --> 05:12:44,565
>> Yeah.

10200
05:12:44,565 --> 05:12:46,300
This is Scott, a homeowner in

10201
05:12:46,300 --> 05:12:46,734
Amityville Almeida 90 114 is

10202
05:12:46,734 --> 05:12:48,734
the area code.

10203
05:12:50,471 --> 05:12:51,171
I'm calling to say that the 30

10204
05:12:51,171 --> 05:12:54,171
plus unit so called 82 project

10205
05:12:54,841 --> 05:12:55,576
that I just recently literally

10206
05:12:55,576 --> 05:12:56,243
found out about yesterday when

10207
05:12:56,243 --> 05:12:58,643
somebody was walking through

10208
05:12:59,913 --> 05:13:00,680
knocking on doors and talking

10209
05:13:00,680 --> 05:13:01,382
to neighbors let us know that

10210
05:13:01,382 --> 05:13:04,382
they were building this absurd

10211
05:13:05,252 --> 05:13:06,200
structure right down the street

10212
05:13:06,200 --> 05:13:06,519
from our house and they're not

10213
05:13:06,519 --> 05:13:07,121
building housing.

10214
05:13:07,121 --> 05:13:09,521
>> It looks like they're

10215
05:13:09,557 --> 05:13:10,191
cramming in low income

10216
05:13:10,191 --> 05:13:12,591
micro-sized dorms or hotel

10217
05:13:14,594 --> 05:13:15,229
rooms in somebody's backyard.

10218
05:13:15,229 --> 05:13:15,596
It's pretending that it's

10219
05:13:15,596 --> 05:13:16,330
progress.

10220
05:13:16,330 --> 05:13:18,832
It's definitely not It's pretty

10221
05:13:18,832 --> 05:13:19,499
clear it's not.

10222
05:13:19,499 --> 05:13:20,168
It's a back door apartment

10223
05:13:20,168 --> 05:13:23,168
complex with zero input from

10224
05:13:24,380 --> 05:13:24,605
the people that actually live

10225
05:13:24,605 --> 05:13:25,272
here the single family

10226
05:13:25,272 --> 05:13:28,272
neighborhood and not a test

10227
05:13:28,643 --> 05:13:29,420
site for woke urban planning

10228
05:13:29,420 --> 05:13:29,743
experiments.

10229
05:13:29,743 --> 05:13:30,444
We didn't sign up to have

10230
05:13:30,444 --> 05:13:32,844
transient tenants walking past

10231
05:13:34,382 --> 05:13:35,116
their homes every day because

10232
05:13:35,116 --> 05:13:35,550
some developer found a loophole

10233
05:13:35,550 --> 05:13:37,550
to make money.

10234
05:13:39,530 --> 05:13:39,387
Man you're taking our property

10235
05:13:39,387 --> 05:13:40,120
values.

10236
05:13:40,120 --> 05:13:43,120
You're going to overwhelm our

10237
05:13:44,658 --> 05:13:45,259
infrastructure here and you're

10238
05:13:45,259 --> 05:13:45,959
basically telling all of

10239
05:13:45,959 --> 05:13:48,329
the long term homeowners here

10240
05:13:48,329 --> 05:13:49,130
that we don't matter anymore.

10241
05:13:49,130 --> 05:13:51,530
>> Your time has concluded.

10242
05:13:53,800 --> 05:13:54,235
Gabriel Weaver Or if you can

10243
05:13:54,235 --> 05:13:56,235
please unmute.

10244
05:13:58,706 --> 05:13:59,140
>> Hi my name is Gabriel and

10245
05:13:59,140 --> 05:13:59,706
I'm a renter.

10246
05:13:59,706 --> 05:14:01,876
I'm also car free.

10247
05:14:01,876 --> 05:14:02,443
I oppose these reforms to

10248
05:14:02,443 --> 05:14:03,143
the 80 bonus program.

10249
05:14:03,143 --> 05:14:06,143
However I do support allowing

10250
05:14:07,480 --> 05:14:07,715
separate sales to completely

10251
05:14:07,715 --> 05:14:08,383
eliminate this program from

10252
05:14:08,383 --> 05:14:10,783
neighborhoods zoned for low

10253
05:14:11,352 --> 05:14:12,119
density which just so happens

10254
05:14:12,119 --> 05:14:12,787
to be some of the most

10255
05:14:12,787 --> 05:14:13,388
desirable neighborhoods that

10256
05:14:13,388 --> 05:14:15,523
have a history of racial

10257
05:14:15,523 --> 05:14:16,223
exclusion would be a complete

10258
05:14:16,223 --> 05:14:16,724
pivot back toward classist and

10259
05:14:16,724 --> 05:14:17,358
racist covenants.

10260
05:14:17,358 --> 05:14:20,358
The community, by the way,

10261
05:14:21,195 --> 05:14:21,962
enforce those old covenants.

10262
05:14:21,962 --> 05:14:22,797
So the coded language that was

10263
05:14:22,797 --> 05:14:26,330
used to deny people access to

10264
05:14:26,330 --> 05:14:26,734
housing has changed But

10265
05:14:26,734 --> 05:14:29,134
the tactics certainly remain.

10266
05:14:30,772 --> 05:14:31,506
To be honest, as much as I as

10267
05:14:31,506 --> 05:14:32,173
community input is an important

10268
05:14:32,173 --> 05:14:32,840
democratic principle you can

10269
05:14:32,840 --> 05:14:36,343
look at history to see where

10270
05:14:36,343 --> 05:14:37,111
politically popular movements

10271
05:14:37,111 --> 05:14:37,812
need it to happen In spite of

10272
05:14:37,812 --> 05:14:38,279
the outrage sparked by people

10273
05:14:38,279 --> 05:14:40,279
who fear change.

10274
05:14:40,548 --> 05:14:41,820
This past weekend we saw 60,000

10275
05:14:41,820 --> 05:14:41,782
plus people MARCH in

10276
05:14:41,782 --> 05:14:45,219
the streets to fight for their

10277
05:14:45,219 --> 05:14:46,200
neighbors right to be here.

10278
05:14:46,200 --> 05:14:46,688
Well, that also means fighting

10279
05:14:46,688 --> 05:14:49,560
for the right to have stable

10280
05:14:49,560 --> 05:14:49,723
high quality housing areas

10281
05:14:49,723 --> 05:14:50,358
where they work, housing in

10282
05:14:50,358 --> 05:14:53,358
areas where there is work

10283
05:14:54,195 --> 05:14:54,628
housing and high resource areas

10284
05:14:54,628 --> 05:14:55,563
near transit.

10285
05:14:55,563 --> 05:14:59,163
And I encourage you to continue

10286
05:14:59,734 --> 05:15:00,101
supporting a new development in

10287
05:15:00,101 --> 05:15:00,468
San Diego.

10288
05:15:00,468 --> 05:15:00,902
Thank you.

10289
05:15:00,902 --> 05:15:02,902
Thank you.

10290
05:15:03,438 --> 05:15:04,380
1672.

10291
05:15:04,380 --> 05:15:06,380
Your last speaker 1672.

10292
05:15:12,380 --> 05:15:14,380
Please unmute.

10293
05:15:17,619 --> 05:15:18,586
Are we on an agenda?

10294
05:15:18,586 --> 05:15:19,387
>> No this is still item 2o2.

10295
05:15:19,387 --> 05:15:21,589
If you'd like to speak for an

10296
05:15:21,589 --> 05:15:21,990
on agenda you can raise your

10297
05:15:21,990 --> 05:15:22,356
hand after.

10298
05:15:22,356 --> 05:15:23,224
Thank you.

10299
05:15:23,224 --> 05:15:26,824
Just for the record we did

10300
05:15:27,195 --> 05:15:30,195
receive 20 web comment forms in

10301
05:15:32,100 --> 05:15:32,733
favor and 699 in opposition and

10302
05:15:32,733 --> 05:15:33,134
those were distributed to

10303
05:15:33,134 --> 05:15:33,835
the council.

10304
05:15:33,835 --> 05:15:36,235
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

10305
05:15:37,171 --> 05:15:37,572
That concludes public comment

10306
05:15:37,572 --> 05:15:38,106
on item 202.

10307
05:15:38,106 --> 05:15:38,473
>> All right.

10308
05:15:38,473 --> 05:15:40,473
Thank you.

10309
05:15:41,800 --> 05:15:41,876
City Clerk.

10310
05:15:41,876 --> 05:15:42,243
>> Let's give her a round of

10311
05:15:42,243 --> 05:15:44,243
applause.

10312
05:15:55,523 --> 05:15:56,291
She did a great job at and all

10313
05:15:56,291 --> 05:16:00,462
her staff as well of course as

10314
05:16:00,462 --> 05:16:03,462
include all that So okay.

10315
05:16:04,765 --> 05:16:05,367
And please don't tell anybody

10316
05:16:05,367 --> 05:16:05,967
that I allowed all that

10317
05:16:05,967 --> 05:16:06,634
clapping all afternoon.

10318
05:16:06,634 --> 05:16:09,738
I'm not supposed to do that.

10319
05:16:09,738 --> 05:16:10,438
But you were respectful in

10320
05:16:10,438 --> 05:16:11,139
the way you did it and it

10321
05:16:11,139 --> 05:16:11,506
didn't interrupt people having

10322
05:16:11,506 --> 05:16:13,506
to speak.

10323
05:16:15,276 --> 05:16:15,976
I'm going to make a couple of

10324
05:16:15,976 --> 05:16:16,611
comments at the beginning but

10325
05:16:16,611 --> 05:16:19,815
I'm going to turn over to

10326
05:16:19,815 --> 05:16:20,315
the chair of our land Use and

10327
05:16:20,315 --> 05:16:21,150
Housing Committee.

10328
05:16:21,150 --> 05:16:24,150
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.

10329
05:16:24,285 --> 05:16:24,986
So one one of the things that I

10330
05:16:24,986 --> 05:16:28,586
heard from the public and I've

10331
05:16:28,923 --> 05:16:29,523
heard from others and so I'm

10332
05:16:29,523 --> 05:16:30,158
going to ask our city

10333
05:16:30,158 --> 05:16:32,558
attorney's office I think

10334
05:16:33,895 --> 05:16:34,628
the council would be benefit

10335
05:16:34,628 --> 05:16:38,228
from a legal opinion whether or

10336
05:16:38,667 --> 05:16:39,700
not in fact we have any options

10337
05:16:39,700 --> 05:16:43,300
to shut down a and an

10338
05:16:44,339 --> 05:16:45,600
application that's on file that

10339
05:16:45,600 --> 05:16:45,707
has been deemed complete or

10340
05:16:45,707 --> 05:16:48,760
even a permit that's been

10341
05:16:48,760 --> 05:16:48,944
issued.

10342
05:16:48,944 --> 05:16:52,544
I'm very skeptical that we can

10343
05:16:53,381 --> 05:16:54,181
but clearly what we're hearing

10344
05:16:54,181 --> 05:16:58,220
from a lot of folks is not

10345
05:16:58,220 --> 05:16:58,919
necessarily the focus on what

10346
05:16:58,919 --> 05:16:59,621
the ordinance in front of us

10347
05:16:59,621 --> 05:17:02,560
today is but what they've seen

10348
05:17:02,560 --> 05:17:02,757
happening in their neighborhood

10349
05:17:02,757 --> 05:17:03,391
or what is currently being

10350
05:17:03,391 --> 05:17:03,758
allowed under the existing

10351
05:17:03,758 --> 05:17:05,758
ordinance.

10352
05:17:08,960 --> 05:17:08,796
So I don't want to put you on

10353
05:17:08,796 --> 05:17:09,464
the spot and ask you to opine

10354
05:17:09,464 --> 05:17:12,333
on that but if you could get

10355
05:17:12,333 --> 05:17:13,101
back to the council I think it

10356
05:17:13,101 --> 05:17:16,701
would be benefit Again, I'm a

10357
05:17:16,705 --> 05:17:17,539
little skeptical on that.

10358
05:17:17,539 --> 05:17:18,206
>> At the risk of freaking you

10359
05:17:18,206 --> 05:17:19,408
out if I've heard the number

10360
05:17:19,408 --> 05:17:24,208
for a lot I want to talk about

10361
05:17:24,880 --> 05:17:28,830
the number five or just wait.

10362
05:17:28,830 --> 05:17:28,717
It takes five votes to actually

10363
05:17:28,717 --> 05:17:31,117
take some action tonight.

10364
05:17:32,530 --> 05:17:33,210
There's nine of us.

10365
05:17:33,210 --> 05:17:37,580
Five is what the majority is If

10366
05:17:37,580 --> 05:17:40,580
folks don't like what's on

10367
05:17:40,862 --> 05:17:41,563
the table and we get five no's,

10368
05:17:41,563 --> 05:17:44,563
we're stuck with the ordinance

10369
05:17:44,866 --> 05:17:45,599
as it exists today and it gives

10370
05:17:45,599 --> 05:17:46,268
more opportunity for developers

10371
05:17:46,268 --> 05:17:49,838
to take advantage of the way

10372
05:17:49,838 --> 05:17:50,705
the ordinance is written.

10373
05:17:50,705 --> 05:17:51,373
So I would ask my colleagues to

10374
05:17:51,373 --> 05:17:53,773
think carefully about that.

10375
05:17:55,711 --> 05:17:58,711
In contrast, just five that

10376
05:17:59,470 --> 05:17:59,480
goes out actually limit or

10377
05:17:59,480 --> 05:18:00,215
interject.

10378
05:18:00,215 --> 05:18:00,916
For those of you who thought

10379
05:18:00,916 --> 05:18:04,486
the oecd letter that came out

10380
05:18:04,486 --> 05:18:05,187
on Friday morning was to your

10381
05:18:05,187 --> 05:18:05,687
advantage, I want to disabuse

10382
05:18:05,687 --> 05:18:08,870
you of that idea.

10383
05:18:09,491 --> 05:18:10,158
It was not it is the single

10384
05:18:10,158 --> 05:18:13,158
biggest challenge we have to

10385
05:18:14,562 --> 05:18:15,364
rightsize things for San Diego.

10386
05:18:15,364 --> 05:18:18,964
I want to think someone's going

10387
05:18:20,680 --> 05:18:20,769
to get mad at me because they

10388
05:18:20,769 --> 05:18:21,470
said this was a terrible thing

10389
05:18:21,470 --> 05:18:22,370
to say But I want to thank

10390
05:18:22,370 --> 05:18:23,572
the mayor's office and

10391
05:18:23,572 --> 05:18:24,473
the planning department who

10392
05:18:24,473 --> 05:18:25,239
spent a lot of time with each

10393
05:18:25,239 --> 05:18:28,239
city before things actually got

10394
05:18:29,211 --> 05:18:29,911
brought forward And then out of

10395
05:18:29,911 --> 05:18:30,579
the blue this letter comes out

10396
05:18:30,579 --> 05:18:33,579
on Friday morning coffee on

10397
05:18:33,715 --> 05:18:34,482
the side of shift.

10398
05:18:34,482 --> 05:18:38,820
But what hd said works against

10399
05:18:38,920 --> 05:18:39,288
what you claim or what you say

10400
05:18:39,288 --> 05:18:41,288
you want.

10401
05:18:43,724 --> 05:18:44,426
So I'm also going to highlight

10402
05:18:44,426 --> 05:18:48,260
that five votes that push this

10403
05:18:48,864 --> 05:18:49,564
ordinance too far the other way

10404
05:18:49,564 --> 05:18:50,332
might make you feel good

10405
05:18:50,332 --> 05:18:54,303
tonight but hd is going to come

10406
05:18:54,303 --> 05:18:54,836
and slap us down and make us do

10407
05:18:54,836 --> 05:18:55,571
this all over again.

10408
05:18:55,571 --> 05:18:58,874
I have lost too many battles

10409
05:18:58,874 --> 05:18:59,775
with the Coastal Commission

10410
05:18:59,775 --> 05:19:03,244
that has come back to bite us.

10411
05:19:03,244 --> 05:19:03,979
So there is that sweet spot.

10412
05:19:03,979 --> 05:19:04,580
I don't know where that sweet

10413
05:19:04,580 --> 05:19:05,246
spot is looking to my

10414
05:19:05,246 --> 05:19:07,646
colleagues to bring that

10415
05:19:08,650 --> 05:19:09,351
forward but that's

10416
05:19:09,351 --> 05:19:13,155
the challenge How do we get to

10417
05:19:13,155 --> 05:19:13,922
five that supports in ordinance

10418
05:19:13,922 --> 05:19:16,322
language that still complies

10419
05:19:16,592 --> 05:19:17,590
with eight CCDs mandates and

10420
05:19:17,590 --> 05:19:19,590
interpretation?

10421
05:19:22,630 --> 05:19:26,263
So anyway okay get off my my

10422
05:19:26,702 --> 05:19:27,402
teacher mode and turn it over

10423
05:19:27,402 --> 05:19:30,805
to again the chair of our land

10424
05:19:30,805 --> 05:19:31,473
Use and Housing Committee.

10425
05:19:31,473 --> 05:19:33,873
>> Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem

10426
05:19:35,511 --> 05:19:36,312
Lee Thank you Council PRESIDENT

10427
05:19:36,312 --> 05:19:37,780
An eye to whether folks might

10428
05:19:37,780 --> 05:19:40,682
be upset about it will take a

10429
05:19:40,682 --> 05:19:41,383
moment to thank our city

10430
05:19:41,383 --> 05:19:43,783
planning department for their

10431
05:19:45,520 --> 05:19:46,222
work on this item because again

10432
05:19:46,222 --> 05:19:46,921
we're here today because of

10433
05:19:46,921 --> 05:19:47,589
the amendments that need to be

10434
05:19:47,589 --> 05:19:49,992
made to the program and it's

10435
05:19:49,992 --> 05:19:50,693
taking a significant amount of

10436
05:19:50,693 --> 05:19:54,293
work to bring this forward but

10437
05:19:54,630 --> 05:19:55,330
also to do it in the timeline

10438
05:19:55,330 --> 05:19:55,598
that this council had asked

10439
05:19:55,598 --> 05:19:56,498
for.

10440
05:19:56,498 --> 05:20:00,269
We don't talk about it a little

10441
05:20:00,269 --> 05:20:00,769
bit later each time we have

10442
05:20:00,769 --> 05:20:01,470
these discussions.

10443
05:20:01,470 --> 05:20:02,137
I think it's critical to state

10444
05:20:02,137 --> 05:20:05,400
the fact that we continue to

10445
05:20:05,400 --> 05:20:05,574
face a housing crisis and if

10446
05:20:05,574 --> 05:20:06,308
anyone follows these

10447
05:20:06,308 --> 05:20:09,308
discussions that same notion is

10448
05:20:10,212 --> 05:20:10,980
reflected in every major city

10449
05:20:10,980 --> 05:20:14,316
in this country as the cost of

10450
05:20:14,316 --> 05:20:15,170
housing has far outpaced

10451
05:20:15,170 --> 05:20:19,217
the rise of incomes in most of

10452
05:20:19,521 --> 05:20:19,822
this country including in San

10453
05:20:19,822 --> 05:20:20,522
Diego.

10454
05:20:20,522 --> 05:20:24,122
And that's the that's a simple

10455
05:20:24,393 --> 05:20:25,600
fact People cannot afford

10456
05:20:25,600 --> 05:20:25,527
the housing that they would

10457
05:20:25,527 --> 05:20:27,927
like to live in.

10458
05:20:29,532 --> 05:20:30,232
Of course San Diego

10459
05:20:30,232 --> 05:20:30,899
unfortunately is already well

10460
05:20:30,899 --> 05:20:31,467
known to be one of the most

10461
05:20:31,467 --> 05:20:31,867
unaffordable cities in

10462
05:20:31,867 --> 05:20:33,769
the nation.

10463
05:20:33,769 --> 05:20:34,470
I know some individuals today

10464
05:20:34,470 --> 05:20:36,870
have remarked how incredulous

10465
05:20:38,373 --> 05:20:39,141
they believe that the moderate

10466
05:20:39,141 --> 05:20:42,141
income option at a deed

10467
05:20:42,644 --> 05:20:43,312
restriction at 110% of

10468
05:20:43,312 --> 05:20:44,460
the average median income in

10469
05:20:44,460 --> 05:20:47,646
San Diego means that rent would

10470
05:20:47,883 --> 05:20:49,510
be set at $2,300 or more.

10471
05:20:49,510 --> 05:20:52,254
I'm not sure how to break it to

10472
05:20:52,254 --> 05:20:52,988
folks but if you look at any

10473
05:20:52,988 --> 05:20:55,988
recent report that shows rental

10474
05:20:56,825 --> 05:20:57,593
rates in San Diego, the average

10475
05:20:57,593 --> 05:20:58,293
rental rate for an apartment in

10476
05:20:58,293 --> 05:20:58,594
this region is $3,000 if not

10477
05:20:58,594 --> 05:21:00,594
more.

10478
05:21:01,997 --> 05:21:02,665
And in in many high resource

10479
05:21:02,665 --> 05:21:06,265
areas it is far higher than

10480
05:21:07,360 --> 05:21:10,806
that and that is again also a

10481
05:21:10,806 --> 05:21:11,507
reality We used to talk about

10482
05:21:11,507 --> 05:21:12,207
housing being a challenge for

10483
05:21:12,207 --> 05:21:14,607
low income employees, students

10484
05:21:16,144 --> 05:21:17,120
or fixed income seniors.

10485
05:21:17,120 --> 05:21:17,747
That is all still true but

10486
05:21:17,747 --> 05:21:18,380
the reality now is that housing

10487
05:21:18,380 --> 05:21:21,380
has become a challenge for

10488
05:21:21,517 --> 05:21:21,918
everyone who doesn't already

10489
05:21:21,918 --> 05:21:22,685
own a home.

10490
05:21:22,685 --> 05:21:26,285
The fact that it requires an

10491
05:21:26,455 --> 05:21:27,156
average income of $250,000 a

10492
05:21:27,156 --> 05:21:27,857
year to purchase a home in

10493
05:21:27,857 --> 05:21:30,857
the city means that it's

10494
05:21:31,427 --> 05:21:32,940
impossible for the vast

10495
05:21:32,940 --> 05:21:32,795
majority of those people who

10496
05:21:32,795 --> 05:21:36,532
want to work in San Diego to

10497
05:21:36,532 --> 05:21:37,165
buy a home in San Diego.

10498
05:21:37,165 --> 05:21:37,867
Look, I think the council

10499
05:21:37,867 --> 05:21:40,867
PRESIDENT Noted this for a

10500
05:21:41,837 --> 05:21:42,538
moment but many folks today and

10501
05:21:42,538 --> 05:21:46,138
i hear you you have expressed

10502
05:21:46,676 --> 05:21:47,343
an opposition to the item that

10503
05:21:47,343 --> 05:21:48,770
here today And I too reflect

10504
05:21:48,770 --> 05:21:50,813
that the opposition that you're

10505
05:21:50,813 --> 05:21:51,513
sharing is not necessarily to

10506
05:21:51,513 --> 05:21:55,113
this item and what it's being

10507
05:21:55,651 --> 05:21:55,985
presented but to the program as

10508
05:21:55,985 --> 05:21:56,685
a whole.

10509
05:21:56,685 --> 05:21:57,153
But I think it's okay to

10510
05:21:57,153 --> 05:21:59,153
recognize that.

10511
05:22:00,220 --> 05:22:00,690
But I do think that there is a

10512
05:22:00,690 --> 05:22:01,357
stark difference because as

10513
05:22:01,357 --> 05:22:03,757
the council PRESIDENT Noted,

10514
05:22:04,994 --> 05:22:05,694
the item today is a set of

10515
05:22:05,694 --> 05:22:08,694
reforms to bring much needed

10516
05:22:10,990 --> 05:22:10,766
restrictions to the Bonus to

10517
05:22:10,766 --> 05:22:13,766
You program as it currently

10518
05:22:13,936 --> 05:22:14,703
exists which as of today is

10519
05:22:14,703 --> 05:22:17,703
still unlimited with no caps

10520
05:22:19,609 --> 05:22:20,276
whatsoever and open to many of

10521
05:22:20,276 --> 05:22:23,276
the projects that folks have

10522
05:22:24,280 --> 05:22:24,880
come to us and complained about

10523
05:22:24,880 --> 05:22:25,548
here in the past And

10524
05:22:25,548 --> 05:22:27,548
unfortunately still projects

10525
05:22:29,352 --> 05:22:29,752
that are underway at

10526
05:22:29,752 --> 05:22:30,419
the moment.

10527
05:22:30,419 --> 05:22:33,556
The reason why we pushed so

10528
05:22:33,556 --> 05:22:34,323
heavily for this 90 day window

10529
05:22:34,323 --> 05:22:37,460
for an item to come back is

10530
05:22:37,460 --> 05:22:38,326
because every single day this

10531
05:22:38,326 --> 05:22:42,498
item and a lack of any action

10532
05:22:42,498 --> 05:22:43,165
sits out in the public means

10533
05:22:43,165 --> 05:22:45,565
another day that additional

10534
05:22:47,690 --> 05:22:47,937
permits will be submitted.

10535
05:22:47,937 --> 05:22:48,804
And so yes, an individual like

10536
05:22:48,804 --> 05:22:52,208
many of you pointed out from

10537
05:22:52,208 --> 05:22:52,909
crt would probably take

10538
05:22:52,909 --> 05:22:53,576
the opportunity to rush every

10539
05:22:53,576 --> 05:22:56,576
possible permit in at this

10540
05:22:57,790 --> 05:22:57,747
juncture.

10541
05:22:57,747 --> 05:22:58,348
That's why the timeline has

10542
05:22:58,348 --> 05:23:01,948
been as tight as it is.

10543
05:23:01,984 --> 05:23:02,852
So for those who have suggested

10544
05:23:02,852 --> 05:23:03,553
that we vote no today or that

10545
05:23:03,553 --> 05:23:07,153
we delay it for another future

10546
05:23:07,623 --> 05:23:08,910
time, I think that would be a

10547
05:23:08,910 --> 05:23:08,624
severe mistake.

10548
05:23:08,624 --> 05:23:11,624
We MAY not agree on

10549
05:23:12,295 --> 05:23:13,620
the ultimate resolution here

10550
05:23:13,620 --> 05:23:13,762
today And frankly I'm just as

10551
05:23:13,762 --> 05:23:14,463
curious as you all are as to

10552
05:23:14,463 --> 05:23:17,366
where all of my colleagues

10553
05:23:17,366 --> 05:23:18,234
might land.

10554
05:23:18,234 --> 05:23:19,350
I said from the very beginning

10555
05:23:19,350 --> 05:23:22,138
when this item first came up in

10556
05:23:22,138 --> 05:23:22,839
JANUARY that there are going to

10557
05:23:22,839 --> 05:23:25,408
be folks in the room who are

10558
05:23:25,408 --> 05:23:26,175
single edu at a house next door

10559
05:23:26,175 --> 05:23:26,876
to them That's two stories is

10560
05:23:26,876 --> 05:23:27,743
already too much Already heard

10561
05:23:27,743 --> 05:23:31,446
that plenty of times in my own

10562
05:23:31,446 --> 05:23:31,981
community I think we have all

10563
05:23:31,981 --> 05:23:32,681
agreed that many of

10564
05:23:32,681 --> 05:23:36,219
the projects that we have seen

10565
05:23:36,219 --> 05:23:36,885
that have become the example of

10566
05:23:36,885 --> 05:23:39,885
the problem of the unlimited

10567
05:23:41,157 --> 05:23:41,858
nature of this program are

10568
05:23:41,858 --> 05:23:44,858
problems Now where that number

10569
05:23:45,360 --> 05:23:46,290
is set I think is literally

10570
05:23:46,290 --> 05:23:49,290
what's going to be different

10571
05:23:50,567 --> 05:23:51,167
for every single person If I

10572
05:23:51,167 --> 05:23:51,768
thought in working with

10573
05:23:51,768 --> 05:23:54,768
planning to try to bring

10574
05:23:55,710 --> 05:23:55,939
reforms to the table to come up

10575
05:23:55,939 --> 05:23:56,739
with a way to scale based on

10576
05:23:56,739 --> 05:24:00,339
lot size because of that very

10577
05:24:00,610 --> 05:24:01,277
problem because the unlimited

10578
05:24:01,277 --> 05:24:02,440
nature I think is too much.

10579
05:24:02,440 --> 05:24:02,746
There are going to be folks

10580
05:24:02,746 --> 05:24:05,146
from an industry standpoint

10581
05:24:06,149 --> 05:24:06,816
that we heard from today that

10582
05:24:06,816 --> 05:24:07,383
are going to say that this

10583
05:24:07,383 --> 05:24:10,520
program is now way too

10584
05:24:10,520 --> 05:24:10,720
restrictive and that it should

10585
05:24:10,720 --> 05:24:11,210
be opened up significantly

10586
05:24:11,210 --> 05:24:11,621
more.

10587
05:24:11,621 --> 05:24:12,322
But we've had a lengthy

10588
05:24:12,322 --> 05:24:14,991
discussion at the land use and

10589
05:24:14,991 --> 05:24:15,692
housing Committee that's

10590
05:24:15,692 --> 05:24:16,326
brought us to this point and

10591
05:24:16,326 --> 05:24:17,227
the changes I believe are

10592
05:24:17,227 --> 05:24:20,227
necessary and they're going to

10593
05:24:22,650 --> 05:24:22,832
happen.

10594
05:24:22,832 --> 05:24:23,700
The 80 density bonus program is

10595
05:24:23,700 --> 05:24:27,200
not the only item and I'll take

10596
05:24:27,200 --> 05:24:27,703
my three minutes now and hope I

10597
05:24:27,703 --> 05:24:28,538
don't need more but we'll see.

10598
05:24:28,538 --> 05:24:31,538
The 80 density bonus program is

10599
05:24:31,541 --> 05:24:32,108
not the only item that's on

10600
05:24:32,108 --> 05:24:32,776
discussion for today.

10601
05:24:32,776 --> 05:24:33,576
There are a number of items

10602
05:24:33,576 --> 05:24:35,844
that are presented as part of

10603
05:24:35,844 --> 05:24:36,513
this package that are an

10604
05:24:36,513 --> 05:24:38,913
implementation of state law

10605
05:24:40,984 --> 05:24:41,584
relating to it to use

10606
05:24:41,584 --> 05:24:41,918
the existing as they are

10607
05:24:41,918 --> 05:24:42,686
already.

10608
05:24:42,686 --> 05:24:46,189
There's also an item in this

10609
05:24:46,189 --> 05:24:46,856
package that I think has been

10610
05:24:46,856 --> 05:24:47,556
overlooked I mentioned this

10611
05:24:47,556 --> 05:24:48,792
that the Land Use and Housing

10612
05:24:48,792 --> 05:24:49,460
Committee but item 23 is

10613
05:24:49,460 --> 05:24:51,860
the local implementation of

10614
05:24:52,629 --> 05:24:53,496
Assembly Bill 1033 which passed

10615
05:24:53,496 --> 05:24:54,197
in 2023 And I do believe that

10616
05:24:54,197 --> 05:24:57,197
that is actually one positive

10617
05:24:58,367 --> 05:24:59,102
item that we have been hopeful

10618
05:24:59,102 --> 05:25:02,702
to see come to fruition because

10619
05:25:03,106 --> 05:25:03,806
it is the opportunity that

10620
05:25:03,806 --> 05:25:06,806
allows for more home ownership

10621
05:25:07,977 --> 05:25:08,611
by taking adus that are not

10622
05:25:08,611 --> 05:25:09,312
part of the density bonus

10623
05:25:09,312 --> 05:25:10,130
program and allowing them for

10624
05:25:10,130 --> 05:25:13,130
convenience or for sale as

10625
05:25:15,385 --> 05:25:16,253
homeownership opportunities.

10626
05:25:16,253 --> 05:25:16,886
I do believe that 1033 does

10627
05:25:16,886 --> 05:25:19,886
make it easier for working

10628
05:25:20,823 --> 05:25:21,524
class folks to consider a

10629
05:25:21,524 --> 05:25:22,225
starter home by taking some of

10630
05:25:22,225 --> 05:25:22,826
the individual ideas that have

10631
05:25:22,826 --> 05:25:25,826
been built over time and

10632
05:25:28,932 --> 05:25:29,800
allowing those for sale.

10633
05:25:29,800 --> 05:25:30,467
I do also want to thank staff

10634
05:25:30,467 --> 05:25:33,236
for making a couple of

10635
05:25:33,236 --> 05:25:34,700
additional amendments.

10636
05:25:34,700 --> 05:25:34,771
One of the ones that we had

10637
05:25:34,771 --> 05:25:35,439
discussed that was in put it

10638
05:25:35,439 --> 05:25:37,839
especially after the letter

10639
05:25:38,308 --> 05:25:39,900
from cd was recognizing that

10640
05:25:39,900 --> 05:25:42,900
the elimination of low density

10641
05:25:43,546 --> 05:25:44,214
residential zones that we had

10642
05:25:44,214 --> 05:25:44,915
put in place from the first

10643
05:25:44,915 --> 05:25:47,651
time the second time this was

10644
05:25:47,651 --> 05:25:50,510
heard at Council that's

10645
05:25:51,521 --> 05:25:52,155
the s1-1 through 1-4 and 1-8

10646
05:25:52,155 --> 05:25:54,555
through 11 zones that that

10647
05:25:56,860 --> 05:25:57,494
limitation as media and others

10648
05:25:57,494 --> 05:25:58,161
have pointed out had other

10649
05:25:58,161 --> 05:26:00,161
implications that eliminated

10650
05:26:02,990 --> 05:26:02,666
significant numbers of high

10651
05:26:02,666 --> 05:26:03,100
resource areas within

10652
05:26:03,100 --> 05:26:03,766
the community.

10653
05:26:03,766 --> 05:26:07,370
And so I do appreciate that

10654
05:26:07,370 --> 05:26:07,871
amendment.

10655
05:26:07,871 --> 05:26:08,572
I actually think in my opinion

10656
05:26:08,572 --> 05:26:12,172
goes a long ways to address

10657
05:26:12,342 --> 05:26:13,430
some of the concerns that hcc

10658
05:26:13,430 --> 05:26:13,776
has brought up but we won't

10659
05:26:13,776 --> 05:26:16,776
know until it's actually passed

10660
05:26:17,413 --> 05:26:18,181
and put forward to them.

10661
05:26:18,181 --> 05:26:18,849
I will also note that that

10662
05:26:18,849 --> 05:26:21,849
amendment I still very much

10663
05:26:22,552 --> 05:26:23,120
stand by especially when it

10664
05:26:23,120 --> 05:26:23,787
comes to low resource

10665
05:26:23,787 --> 05:26:24,487
communities because a lot of

10666
05:26:24,487 --> 05:26:26,887
this conversation started with

10667
05:26:27,230 --> 05:26:27,757
members of the cancer community

10668
05:26:27,757 --> 05:26:28,458
coming out and the objective of

10669
05:26:28,458 --> 05:26:31,458
that portion of the amendment

10670
05:26:31,828 --> 05:26:32,696
is to eliminate it's used in

10671
05:26:32,696 --> 05:26:36,296
almost all of Encanto and to

10672
05:26:37,134 --> 05:26:37,834
eliminate the possibility that

10673
05:26:37,834 --> 05:26:39,200
that concentrates this kind of

10674
05:26:39,200 --> 05:26:41,402
development in lower resource

10675
05:26:44,174 --> 05:26:44,908
neighborhoods.

10676
05:26:44,908 --> 05:26:45,542
My intent with reforming this

10677
05:26:45,542 --> 05:26:48,542
program has always been to

10678
05:26:49,313 --> 05:26:50,470
ensure that we close

10679
05:26:50,470 --> 05:26:50,680
the existing loopholes and that

10680
05:26:50,680 --> 05:26:53,680
we put other common sense

10681
05:26:54,852 --> 05:26:55,619
measures into place And that is

10682
05:26:55,619 --> 05:26:58,488
where I think the long list of

10683
05:26:58,488 --> 05:26:59,223
recommendations that city

10684
05:26:59,223 --> 05:27:01,623
planning put together initially

10685
05:27:03,793 --> 05:27:04,494
we're all glad to see here

10686
05:27:04,494 --> 05:27:05,195
the addition of considerations

10687
05:27:05,195 --> 05:27:08,195
for fire high fire severity

10688
05:27:09,366 --> 05:27:10,333
zones, the elimination of cul

10689
05:27:10,333 --> 05:27:14,404
de sacs which I will note I

10690
05:27:14,404 --> 05:27:15,105
walked a couple of streets with

10691
05:27:15,105 --> 05:27:15,773
my own neighbors in University

10692
05:27:15,773 --> 05:27:18,773
City looking at two projects

10693
05:27:19,242 --> 05:27:19,910
that had already been in

10694
05:27:19,910 --> 05:27:20,643
the pipeline one which would

10695
05:27:20,643 --> 05:27:23,380
not be possible with any of

10696
05:27:23,380 --> 05:27:24,281
these amendments

10697
05:27:24,281 --> 05:27:27,281
The development scale to limit

10698
05:27:28,519 --> 05:27:29,285
and eliminate the unlimited

10699
05:27:29,285 --> 05:27:32,885
nature of the program as it

10700
05:27:34,758 --> 05:27:35,559
exists today Because even if we

10701
05:27:35,559 --> 05:27:36,893
can disagree it where there's a

10702
05:27:36,893 --> 05:27:37,594
PRESIDENT I'm happy to

10703
05:27:37,594 --> 05:27:38,295
contribute my three minutes to

10704
05:27:38,295 --> 05:27:38,961
council PRESIDENT Pro tem even

10705
05:27:38,961 --> 05:27:41,965
we can disagree as to where

10706
05:27:41,965 --> 05:27:42,365
the limitations are for what's

10707
05:27:42,365 --> 05:27:43,660
acceptable.

10708
05:27:43,660 --> 05:27:45,536
I think everyone in this room

10709
05:27:45,536 --> 05:27:49,136
seems to agree that a 20 a 50

10710
05:27:49,205 --> 05:27:49,873
or 150 or a 750 unit project is

10711
05:27:49,873 --> 05:27:52,873
not what was ever intended.

10712
05:27:54,311 --> 05:27:55,440
So at the end of the day I do

10713
05:27:55,440 --> 05:27:58,215
believe that ideas are not part

10714
05:27:58,215 --> 05:27:58,849
of the silver bullet of solving

10715
05:27:58,849 --> 05:27:59,516
housing but they have been

10716
05:27:59,516 --> 05:28:01,916
proven to add additional

10717
05:28:03,854 --> 05:28:04,554
housing and we are still in an

10718
05:28:04,554 --> 05:28:05,122
environment where that housing

10719
05:28:05,122 --> 05:28:07,122
is desperately needed.

10720
05:28:07,957 --> 05:28:08,659
I look every day in our

10721
05:28:08,659 --> 05:28:09,325
community where we hear and we

10722
05:28:09,325 --> 05:28:12,325
get pleas from residents who

10723
05:28:12,696 --> 05:28:13,497
are desperate to find anything

10724
05:28:13,497 --> 05:28:14,465
that allows them to stay in San

10725
05:28:14,465 --> 05:28:17,767
Diego and their kids to stay in

10726
05:28:17,767 --> 05:28:18,736
school.

10727
05:28:18,736 --> 05:28:22,936
And in many of those cases they

10728
05:28:23,730 --> 05:28:23,807
ask for a backyard apartment if

10729
05:28:23,807 --> 05:28:24,174
that's what's necessary or room

10730
05:28:24,174 --> 05:28:24,809
to share.

10731
05:28:24,809 --> 05:28:27,809
Those are the limits that

10732
05:28:27,978 --> 05:28:28,679
they've got within

10733
05:28:28,679 --> 05:28:29,179
the expensive housing that we

10734
05:28:29,179 --> 05:28:31,579
have in San Diego.

10735
05:28:32,916 --> 05:28:33,617
So all that is to say I'm sure

10736
05:28:33,617 --> 05:28:34,317
there's going to be a lot more

10737
05:28:34,317 --> 05:28:37,317
to this conversation today but

10738
05:28:37,421 --> 05:28:38,880
I'm going to start today by

10739
05:28:38,880 --> 05:28:38,689
thanking again City planning

10740
05:28:38,689 --> 05:28:39,356
for putting together all

10741
05:28:39,356 --> 05:28:39,757
the recommendations that you

10742
05:28:39,757 --> 05:28:41,757
have listed.

10743
05:28:42,693 --> 05:28:43,193
I'm going to make a motion to

10744
05:28:43,193 --> 05:28:43,861
adopt the staff's

10745
05:28:43,861 --> 05:28:45,861
recommendation as presented

10746
05:28:46,697 --> 05:28:47,398
with all of these additional

10747
05:28:47,398 --> 05:28:48,980
restrictions in place to again

10748
05:28:48,980 --> 05:28:51,980
rein in this program further.

10749
05:28:51,635 --> 05:28:52,202
And I look forward to hearing

10750
05:28:52,202 --> 05:28:52,703
from my colleagues on

10751
05:28:52,703 --> 05:28:54,703
the conversation.

10752
05:28:55,840 --> 05:28:56,240
>> Thank you.

10753
05:28:56,240 --> 05:28:56,640
All right.

10754
05:28:56,640 --> 05:28:57,341
Thank you.

10755
05:28:57,341 --> 05:29:00,341
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

10756
05:29:00,710 --> 05:29:01,379
We have a motion to move

10757
05:29:01,379 --> 05:29:03,779
the staff recommendation and

10758
05:29:05,850 --> 05:29:10,500
I'm going to jump in here and

10759
05:29:11,221 --> 05:29:11,822
see if I can reach to a second

10760
05:29:11,822 --> 05:29:14,822
with being open to other

10761
05:29:16,600 --> 05:29:18,460
amendments by Council members.

10762
05:29:19,663 --> 05:29:20,430
I'm actually one that I think

10763
05:29:20,430 --> 05:29:23,430
it's I hope there's some

10764
05:29:24,768 --> 05:29:25,690
agreement actually forget all

10765
05:29:25,690 --> 05:29:25,436
that.

10766
05:29:25,436 --> 05:29:25,936
I'm sorry.

10767
05:29:25,936 --> 05:29:27,936
I'm getting tired.

10768
05:29:28,706 --> 05:29:29,306
Thank you for the public Four

10769
05:29:29,306 --> 05:29:30,240
hours of testimony here.

10770
05:29:30,240 --> 05:29:33,744
We'll see if I can keep my my

10771
05:29:33,744 --> 05:29:34,612
head together.

10772
05:29:34,612 --> 05:29:35,312
I want to start out by thanking

10773
05:29:35,312 --> 05:29:38,312
Council member Foster We would

10774
05:29:39,550 --> 05:29:40,217
not be here if he didn't take

10775
05:29:40,217 --> 05:29:43,621
what were at the time what's

10776
05:29:43,621 --> 05:29:44,422
kind of an outrageous statement

10777
05:29:44,422 --> 05:29:45,890
that kind of kicked off this

10778
05:29:45,890 --> 05:29:47,489
conversation And the biggest

10779
05:29:48,325 --> 05:29:49,260
thing we struggle is as you've

10780
05:29:49,260 --> 05:29:52,626
heard and you will continue to

10781
05:29:52,863 --> 05:29:53,764
hear when we trigger these

10782
05:29:53,764 --> 05:29:57,964
kinds of changes it sends a red

10783
05:29:58,402 --> 05:29:59,700
flag up and developers just say

10784
05:29:59,700 --> 05:30:02,273
I've got a window to do

10785
05:30:02,273 --> 05:30:03,600
something Under the old rules

10786
05:30:03,600 --> 05:30:03,607
and it's just an unfortunate

10787
05:30:03,607 --> 05:30:04,342
part of the transition.

10788
05:30:04,342 --> 05:30:07,342
So thank you to Councilmember

10789
05:30:07,844 --> 05:30:08,613
Foster and his office.

10790
05:30:08,613 --> 05:30:11,613
As others have said, attitude

10791
05:30:12,950 --> 05:30:13,317
is part of our housing

10792
05:30:13,317 --> 05:30:14,218
solution.

10793
05:30:14,218 --> 05:30:17,254
It is not the only part of our

10794
05:30:17,254 --> 05:30:17,989
solutions but it doesn't mean

10795
05:30:17,989 --> 05:30:21,589
that it shouldn't be right size

10796
05:30:21,925 --> 05:30:22,560
And I think we've seen very,

10797
05:30:22,560 --> 05:30:24,960
very ugly and unfortunate

10798
05:30:27,310 --> 05:30:27,832
examples of where what could

10799
05:30:27,832 --> 05:30:31,135
have been and a good program

10800
05:30:31,135 --> 05:30:31,801
gone horribly, horribly awry.

10801
05:30:31,801 --> 05:30:34,801
And again that's that's why

10802
05:30:36,400 --> 05:30:36,640
we're here And to the media

10803
05:30:36,640 --> 05:30:36,974
these aren't the mayor's

10804
05:30:36,974 --> 05:30:37,675
reforms.

10805
05:30:37,675 --> 05:30:41,275
These are the reforms that we

10806
05:30:41,412 --> 05:30:42,800
are pushing forward are in

10807
05:30:42,800 --> 05:30:42,780
concert with city planning.

10808
05:30:42,780 --> 05:30:46,380
So stop yelling at the mayor,

10809
05:30:46,751 --> 05:30:47,418
yell at us because we're taking

10810
05:30:47,418 --> 05:30:48,453
ownership of this now And if

10811
05:30:48,453 --> 05:30:52,653
you don't like it you can blame

10812
05:30:53,657 --> 05:30:54,425
us for it.

10813
05:30:54,425 --> 05:30:55,125
So I'm going to introduce some

10814
05:30:55,125 --> 05:30:57,525
amendments and then certainly

10815
05:30:59,263 --> 05:31:02,567
as we see if my colleagues

10816
05:31:02,567 --> 05:31:03,267
agree actually the council

10817
05:31:03,267 --> 05:31:04,135
PRESIDENT Pro tem will start

10818
05:31:04,135 --> 05:31:07,735
that off And I think there's

10819
05:31:08,573 --> 05:31:12,173
some things that we're going to

10820
05:31:15,346 --> 05:31:16,113
distribute maybe So in

10821
05:31:16,113 --> 05:31:19,113
listening I'm a little bit

10822
05:31:20,684 --> 05:31:21,351
wonky so I'm going to apologize

10823
05:31:21,351 --> 05:31:24,351
in advance listening to both

10824
05:31:24,522 --> 05:31:25,123
sides those that are absolutely

10825
05:31:25,123 --> 05:31:25,623
against it and those are

10826
05:31:25,623 --> 05:31:27,623
absolutely for it.

10827
05:31:29,327 --> 05:31:30,294
I actually found some middle

10828
05:31:30,294 --> 05:31:34,494
ground in all of that and so

10829
05:31:34,932 --> 05:31:35,533
that's where I'm going to make

10830
05:31:35,533 --> 05:31:36,267
a couple of amendments.

10831
05:31:36,267 --> 05:31:39,437
One of the things that I cannot

10832
05:31:39,437 --> 05:31:40,138
stand is the possibility that

10833
05:31:40,138 --> 05:31:42,538
we provide affordability based

10834
05:31:44,842 --> 05:31:45,476
on the square footage because

10835
05:31:45,476 --> 05:31:47,876
that income restriction is

10836
05:31:50,180 --> 05:31:50,647
based on bedrooms, not on

10837
05:31:50,647 --> 05:31:51,316
square footage.

10838
05:31:51,316 --> 05:31:53,170
So you get to charge as much

10839
05:31:53,170 --> 05:31:53,985
for a one bedroom, 150 square

10840
05:31:53,985 --> 05:31:57,488
foot as you do for a 450 square

10841
05:31:57,488 --> 05:31:58,356
foot, one bedroom.

10842
05:31:58,356 --> 05:32:01,292
I think it makes sense in some

10843
05:32:01,292 --> 05:32:02,260
world But the idea that we

10844
05:32:02,260 --> 05:32:02,693
would encourage 150 square foot

10845
05:32:02,693 --> 05:32:05,693
micro units doesn't make any

10846
05:32:05,963 --> 05:32:06,764
sense especially if we're going

10847
05:32:06,764 --> 05:32:07,698
to be allowing them to sell.

10848
05:32:07,698 --> 05:32:11,298
So what I heard is consistency

10849
05:32:11,502 --> 05:32:14,502
about the right sizing of

10850
05:32:15,473 --> 05:32:16,206
the units And so my First

10851
05:32:16,206 --> 05:32:19,206
Amendment is to actually impose

10852
05:32:20,946 --> 05:32:21,645
a minimum gross floor area And

10853
05:32:21,645 --> 05:32:22,280
as council PRESIDENT I'm going

10854
05:32:22,280 --> 05:32:24,783
to give myself more time.

10855
05:32:24,783 --> 05:32:25,350
So to make sure that we

10856
05:32:25,350 --> 05:32:26,830
actually get units and

10857
05:32:26,830 --> 05:32:29,830
hopefully more bedrooms to suit

10858
05:32:29,954 --> 05:32:32,954
families that are looking for

10859
05:32:35,493 --> 05:32:38,493
actually good sized with that

10860
05:32:39,464 --> 05:32:40,164
there's lots of places to

10861
05:32:40,164 --> 05:32:42,564
councilmembers Well that I

10862
05:32:46,838 --> 05:32:47,472
think just okay okay The second

10863
05:32:47,472 --> 05:32:48,139
proposal was introduced in

10864
05:32:48,139 --> 05:32:51,139
the staff report on page 12.

10865
05:32:51,977 --> 05:32:54,977
It's an additional option was

10866
05:32:56,460 --> 05:32:56,747
also referred to as a proposed

10867
05:32:56,747 --> 05:32:57,415
enhancement on Slide 28 which

10868
05:32:57,415 --> 05:33:00,351
is called a moderate income.

10869
05:33:00,351 --> 05:33:01,860
Adu If you want to use a

10870
05:33:01,860 --> 05:33:04,860
moderate income for your bonus,

10871
05:33:05,857 --> 05:33:06,324
the bonus one has to be a

10872
05:33:06,324 --> 05:33:06,992
moderate income.

10873
05:33:06,992 --> 05:33:10,592
And what I have heard again

10874
05:33:10,695 --> 05:33:11,262
from pro housing folks I think

10875
05:33:11,262 --> 05:33:11,963
Viacom talked about it

10876
05:33:11,963 --> 05:33:14,963
circulate talked about it and

10877
05:33:15,567 --> 05:33:16,166
some of you talked about it

10878
05:33:16,166 --> 05:33:18,566
let's actually make this

10879
05:33:20,438 --> 05:33:21,205
affordable for moderate income

10880
05:33:21,205 --> 05:33:24,205
folks even though 110% is kind

10881
05:33:25,743 --> 05:33:26,478
of a crazy number these days.

10882
05:33:26,478 --> 05:33:27,440
So taking advantage of the work

10883
05:33:27,440 --> 05:33:29,444
that the city Planning

10884
05:33:31,820 --> 05:33:31,649
department did the next two are

10885
05:33:31,649 --> 05:33:34,490
a little bit wonky.

10886
05:33:38,156 --> 05:33:38,723
One is to modify 141 0302d1b to

10887
05:33:38,723 --> 05:33:39,391
make sure that people

10888
05:33:39,391 --> 05:33:40,570
understand that if you're in

10889
05:33:40,570 --> 05:33:42,570
the sustainable development

10890
05:33:43,361 --> 05:33:44,229
area that there actually is a

10891
05:33:44,229 --> 05:33:47,532
max because you have to go

10892
05:33:47,532 --> 05:33:48,300
through 20 pages to find out

10893
05:33:48,300 --> 05:33:49,167
that there is a max, we'd like

10894
05:33:49,167 --> 05:33:52,103
to bring it up front going

10895
05:33:52,103 --> 05:33:52,971
forward.

10896
05:33:52,971 --> 05:33:53,705
By the way, four of us voted

10897
05:33:53,705 --> 05:33:55,705
against sustainable development

10898
05:33:57,509 --> 05:33:58,376
areas back in the day.

10899
05:33:58,376 --> 05:34:02,180
Just want to throw that in And

10900
05:34:02,180 --> 05:34:02,847
the last one is given

10901
05:34:02,847 --> 05:34:03,547
the city's trash fee which I

10902
05:34:03,547 --> 05:34:06,840
know a lot of people hate,

10903
05:34:06,840 --> 05:34:06,885
the city is cracking down If

10904
05:34:06,885 --> 05:34:07,553
you have five units you're not

10905
05:34:07,553 --> 05:34:10,553
going to get city services.

10906
05:34:11,323 --> 05:34:12,230
I want to put that actually

10907
05:34:12,230 --> 05:34:16,223
into the U.S. So people are

10908
05:34:16,728 --> 05:34:17,329
aware that if you go to five

10909
05:34:17,329 --> 05:34:17,896
units or more you're not

10910
05:34:17,896 --> 05:34:19,896
getting city services.

10911
05:34:20,298 --> 05:34:20,732
You have to go to a private

10912
05:34:20,732 --> 05:34:21,500
hauler.

10913
05:34:21,500 --> 05:34:25,100
I think it's just good practice

10914
05:34:25,537 --> 05:34:25,871
to actually highlight that

10915
05:34:25,871 --> 05:34:27,871
upfront.

10916
05:34:29,541 --> 05:34:30,308
So to my colleague who made

10917
05:34:30,308 --> 05:34:33,908
the motion to adopt the city's

10918
05:34:34,779 --> 05:34:35,446
the staff recommendation, I put

10919
05:34:35,446 --> 05:34:35,713
four amendments in front of

10920
05:34:35,713 --> 05:34:36,381
you.

10921
05:34:36,381 --> 05:34:36,782
I think they're good strong

10922
05:34:36,782 --> 05:34:38,782
amendments.

10923
05:34:40,151 --> 05:34:40,852
I heard from both sides

10924
05:34:40,852 --> 05:34:43,852
the importance of the minimum

10925
05:34:44,155 --> 05:34:44,856
gross floor area as well as

10926
05:34:44,856 --> 05:34:47,856
the moderate income to really

10927
05:34:49,193 --> 05:34:49,861
ratchet up our moderate income

10928
05:34:49,861 --> 05:34:50,561
and meet our arena numbers.

10929
05:34:50,561 --> 05:34:54,660
I'm going to put you on

10930
05:34:54,660 --> 05:34:54,900
the spot for sure.

10931
05:34:54,900 --> 05:34:55,600
>> I will address these each

10932
05:34:55,600 --> 05:34:58,600
individually if you don't mind

10933
05:34:59,103 --> 05:35:00,710
just looking at them.

10934
05:35:00,710 --> 05:35:00,739
One is that we actually had a

10935
05:35:00,739 --> 05:35:01,439
pretty significant amount of

10936
05:35:01,439 --> 05:35:02,400
discussion in the Land Use and

10937
05:35:02,400 --> 05:35:04,400
Housing Committee about

10938
05:35:04,509 --> 05:35:05,244
the minimum unit size and one

10939
05:35:05,244 --> 05:35:08,844
of the parts of that discussion

10940
05:35:09,414 --> 05:35:10,490
was recognizing that the moment

10941
05:35:10,490 --> 05:35:10,848
we put an actual cap on

10942
05:35:10,848 --> 05:35:13,719
the number of units that that

10943
05:35:13,719 --> 05:35:14,452
would de facto basically limit

10944
05:35:14,452 --> 05:35:17,452
or encourage maximizing the use

10945
05:35:18,690 --> 05:35:19,291
of the square footage that is

10946
05:35:19,291 --> 05:35:21,291
available and therefore

10947
05:35:23,561 --> 05:35:23,928
the minimum unit size was not

10948
05:35:23,928 --> 05:35:24,630
necessary.

10949
05:35:24,630 --> 05:35:25,329
I agree with you that frankly

10950
05:35:25,329 --> 05:35:27,566
it's not it doesn't make sense

10951
05:35:27,566 --> 05:35:28,333
to build smaller units.

10952
05:35:28,333 --> 05:35:31,570
But I also don't think that

10953
05:35:31,570 --> 05:35:32,171
someone building a 200 square

10954
05:35:32,171 --> 05:35:32,838
foot unit would get rent

10955
05:35:32,838 --> 05:35:33,539
the same way that they would

10956
05:35:33,539 --> 05:35:36,539
get building a 700 square foot

10957
05:35:36,841 --> 05:35:37,542
unit And so to that I think

10958
05:35:37,542 --> 05:35:41,142
frankly my hope is that by

10959
05:35:41,213 --> 05:35:41,980
limiting the number of units we

10960
05:35:41,980 --> 05:35:42,781
do actually get more units that

10961
05:35:42,781 --> 05:35:45,181
meet the 2 or 3 bedroom

10962
05:35:46,840 --> 05:35:46,785
category that the city has long

10963
05:35:46,785 --> 05:35:47,419
been missing and that would be

10964
05:35:47,419 --> 05:35:50,419
an opportunity to do that.

10965
05:35:50,723 --> 05:35:51,390
I just don't think the extra

10966
05:35:51,390 --> 05:35:51,923
complexity that is added in

10967
05:35:51,923 --> 05:35:52,523
here stipulating all

10968
05:35:52,523 --> 05:35:55,523
the different sizes is a

10969
05:35:55,927 --> 05:35:56,662
necessary amendment given

10970
05:35:56,662 --> 05:35:59,932
the effort that we went through

10971
05:35:59,932 --> 05:36:00,566
to move through that As

10972
05:36:00,566 --> 05:36:02,966
regarding to the moderate

10973
05:36:05,700 --> 05:36:05,871
income density bonus again this

10974
05:36:05,871 --> 05:36:06,572
is one where to be frank I

10975
05:36:06,572 --> 05:36:10,172
think we all just heard from

10976
05:36:10,409 --> 05:36:11,109
the audience moderate income at

10977
05:36:11,109 --> 05:36:11,810
the at the 101 is at $30,000

10978
05:36:11,810 --> 05:36:14,810
right now That's the median

10979
05:36:15,580 --> 05:36:15,948
income for a family of four in

10980
05:36:15,948 --> 05:36:16,614
San Diego.

10981
05:36:16,614 --> 05:36:19,614
That means that the moderate

10982
05:36:19,884 --> 05:36:20,285
income for a unit is extremely

10983
05:36:20,285 --> 05:36:21,152
high.

10984
05:36:21,152 --> 05:36:21,820
And so I don't know that adding

10985
05:36:21,820 --> 05:36:24,220
an additional restriction on

10986
05:36:25,570 --> 05:36:25,757
that will actually accomplish

10987
05:36:25,757 --> 05:36:26,458
anything when in reality

10988
05:36:26,458 --> 05:36:30,580
the units are already going to

10989
05:36:30,229 --> 05:36:30,662
be above what people deemed to

10990
05:36:30,662 --> 05:36:31,363
be affordable.

10991
05:36:31,363 --> 05:36:34,363
Number three I'm actually not

10992
05:36:35,734 --> 05:36:36,502
quite familiar with the this

10993
05:36:36,502 --> 05:36:39,538
section here so I might have to

10994
05:36:39,538 --> 05:36:40,439
look into this further and can

10995
05:36:40,439 --> 05:36:44,639
consider it But it's in it's in

10996
05:36:44,677 --> 05:36:45,377
the same area section of

10997
05:36:45,377 --> 05:36:46,450
the policy And so I would

10998
05:36:46,450 --> 05:36:49,450
presume that if it's already

10999
05:36:49,181 --> 05:36:49,882
limited in Section d four that

11000
05:36:49,882 --> 05:36:53,482
it doesn't need to be outlined

11001
05:36:53,652 --> 05:36:54,320
in section d1b And then finally

11002
05:36:54,320 --> 05:36:54,920
my hesitation for the adding

11003
05:36:54,920 --> 05:36:56,920
the additional language

11004
05:36:58,924 --> 05:36:59,859
regarding the waste collection

11005
05:36:59,859 --> 05:37:04,590
is that that is already what is

11006
05:37:04,230 --> 05:37:04,929
written in our updated charter

11007
05:37:04,929 --> 05:37:08,529
language as a result of metric

11008
05:37:09,335 --> 05:37:10,200
b and also outlined as a result

11009
05:37:10,200 --> 05:37:10,368
of the policy that we passed

11010
05:37:10,368 --> 05:37:11,103
last week.

11011
05:37:11,103 --> 05:37:14,390
I mean from a frank practical

11012
05:37:14,390 --> 05:37:14,607
standpoint I think adding

11013
05:37:14,607 --> 05:37:15,274
repetitive language in

11014
05:37:15,274 --> 05:37:15,874
different areas within city

11015
05:37:15,874 --> 05:37:18,874
code only makes it more

11016
05:37:18,944 --> 05:37:19,478
complicated if any one item

11017
05:37:19,478 --> 05:37:21,878
needs to be changed.

11018
05:37:23,150 --> 05:37:23,716
So I have to point out I'll

11019
05:37:23,716 --> 05:37:24,350
certainly be open to hearing

11020
05:37:24,350 --> 05:37:24,983
from my colleagues but at

11021
05:37:24,983 --> 05:37:25,751
the moment I'm going to

11022
05:37:25,751 --> 05:37:28,151
respectfully decline all four

11023
05:37:30,389 --> 05:37:31,256
amendments.

11024
05:37:31,256 --> 05:37:31,957
>> That's not a nice thing to

11025
05:37:31,957 --> 05:37:34,957
do to your council PRESIDENT.

11026
05:37:35,600 --> 05:37:35,727
I know it MAY not fly but

11027
05:37:35,727 --> 05:37:38,727
perhaps we'll see what other

11028
05:37:39,331 --> 05:37:39,631
language my colleagues come up

11029
05:37:39,631 --> 05:37:40,365
with.

11030
05:37:40,365 --> 05:37:42,701
I still feel pretty strongly

11031
05:37:42,701 --> 05:37:43,468
about number one and number two

11032
05:37:43,468 --> 05:37:47,640
what I heard but I'm not going

11033
05:37:47,640 --> 05:37:48,307
to belabor that argument here

11034
05:37:48,307 --> 05:37:48,940
So we'll go next to

11035
05:37:48,940 --> 05:37:50,940
Councilmember Ella Rivera.

11036
05:37:52,778 --> 05:37:53,546
All right.

11037
05:37:53,546 --> 05:37:54,313
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

11038
05:37:54,313 --> 05:37:57,830
I'll start by thanking all

11039
05:37:57,830 --> 05:37:57,550
the members of the public who

11040
05:37:57,550 --> 05:37:58,283
participated in

11041
05:37:58,283 --> 05:38:01,283
the conversation not just today

11042
05:38:05,157 --> 05:38:05,924
but over time.

11043
05:38:05,924 --> 05:38:08,924
>> I say there's some things

11044
05:38:09,127 --> 05:38:09,896
that I think we all many of us

11045
05:38:09,896 --> 05:38:10,796
share I won't say all because

11046
05:38:10,796 --> 05:38:12,965
it's a big city with many

11047
05:38:12,965 --> 05:38:13,599
opinions.

11048
05:38:13,599 --> 05:38:15,599
Certainly the frustration

11049
05:38:18,103 --> 05:38:18,771
around affordability is housing

11050
05:38:18,771 --> 05:38:19,338
too expensive in San Diego,

11051
05:38:19,338 --> 05:38:21,738
it's too expensive in

11052
05:38:22,875 --> 05:38:23,509
California and increasingly

11053
05:38:23,509 --> 05:38:23,910
it's too expensive across

11054
05:38:23,910 --> 05:38:24,576
the country.

11055
05:38:24,576 --> 05:38:27,613
What I will continue to say

11056
05:38:27,613 --> 05:38:28,381
though is I don't think that

11057
05:38:28,381 --> 05:38:32,500
folks who have owned a home for

11058
05:38:32,500 --> 05:38:32,919
a very long time understand

11059
05:38:32,919 --> 05:38:33,719
what it's been like to be a

11060
05:38:33,719 --> 05:38:36,719
renter and what is not

11061
05:38:37,489 --> 05:38:38,123
affordable might still be more

11062
05:38:38,123 --> 05:38:40,523
affordable than what other

11063
05:38:43,950 --> 05:38:43,463
options exist now.

11064
05:38:43,463 --> 05:38:45,463
All right.

11065
05:38:48,000 --> 05:38:48,834
You've been really good.

11066
05:38:48,834 --> 05:38:49,502
Let's kind of keep it up Thumbs

11067
05:38:49,502 --> 05:38:49,968
down if you don't like what

11068
05:38:49,968 --> 05:38:51,968
you're hearing.

11069
05:38:52,171 --> 05:38:52,905
But so to that point I don't

11070
05:38:52,905 --> 05:38:55,905
think there's anyone who's been

11071
05:38:56,542 --> 05:38:57,243
more vocal about expanding

11072
05:38:57,243 --> 05:38:57,943
tenant protections and pushing

11073
05:38:57,943 --> 05:39:01,543
back on landlords And I'll be

11074
05:39:01,880 --> 05:39:02,582
quite frank a lot of the folks

11075
05:39:02,582 --> 05:39:03,182
that I see here we're not

11076
05:39:03,182 --> 05:39:03,616
they're engaged in those

11077
05:39:03,616 --> 05:39:05,616
conversations.

11078
05:39:06,152 --> 05:39:06,485
We can do much more to protect

11079
05:39:06,485 --> 05:39:07,153
renters.

11080
05:39:07,153 --> 05:39:07,853
We can do much more to

11081
05:39:07,853 --> 05:39:09,853
strengthen tenant protections

11082
05:39:11,257 --> 05:39:11,958
And I hope to see your

11083
05:39:11,958 --> 05:39:12,558
solidarity when we bring those

11084
05:39:12,558 --> 05:39:14,958
efforts forward again in

11085
05:39:15,361 --> 05:39:16,280
the future If we do, there also

11086
05:39:16,280 --> 05:39:16,528
is an agreement that change

11087
05:39:16,528 --> 05:39:17,262
needs to be made.

11088
05:39:17,262 --> 05:39:20,165
We've seen exploitation of this

11089
05:39:20,165 --> 05:39:20,800
program egregious examples that

11090
05:39:20,800 --> 05:39:21,501
failure to agree egregious

11091
05:39:21,501 --> 05:39:23,901
examples of people exploiting

11092
05:39:25,204 --> 05:39:25,904
the program, disrespecting

11093
05:39:25,904 --> 05:39:26,605
neighbors and neighborhoods I

11094
05:39:26,605 --> 05:39:30,343
don't think any of us are okay

11095
05:39:30,343 --> 05:39:30,943
with that And clearly there was

11096
05:39:30,943 --> 05:39:31,611
a failure to account for

11097
05:39:31,611 --> 05:39:34,110
the impacts on neighborhoods

11098
05:39:35,148 --> 05:39:35,815
that have been long neglected

11099
05:39:35,815 --> 05:39:39,152
by the city like Encanto who

11100
05:39:39,152 --> 05:39:39,852
never had decent infrastructure

11101
05:39:39,852 --> 05:39:40,553
to begin with, let alone

11102
05:39:40,553 --> 05:39:42,953
the infrastructure to support

11103
05:39:44,356 --> 05:39:45,124
additional density.

11104
05:39:45,124 --> 05:39:45,792
That being said, there's a lot

11105
05:39:45,792 --> 05:39:46,325
today that I have heard that

11106
05:39:46,325 --> 05:39:48,325
has been concerning.

11107
05:39:49,428 --> 05:39:50,290
I saw people oppose the simple

11108
05:39:50,290 --> 05:39:50,729
request to make 80 use

11109
05:39:50,729 --> 05:39:53,729
available for sale so that

11110
05:39:54,233 --> 05:39:54,934
hardworking students we had two

11111
05:39:54,934 --> 05:39:57,670
law students who stood in this

11112
05:39:57,670 --> 05:39:58,538
in these chambers and said that

11113
05:39:58,538 --> 05:39:59,305
I would one day like to own a

11114
05:39:59,305 --> 05:40:03,275
home in the city of San Diego

11115
05:40:03,275 --> 05:40:03,576
and asked to see a future to do

11116
05:40:03,576 --> 05:40:04,543
that.

11117
05:40:04,543 --> 05:40:07,213
And I saw those same thumbs go

11118
05:40:07,213 --> 05:40:07,781
down and those same heads shake

11119
05:40:07,781 --> 05:40:10,181
And that is extremely

11120
05:40:11,484 --> 05:40:12,284
unfortunate because what that's

11121
05:40:12,284 --> 05:40:12,952
telling me is that folks are

11122
05:40:12,952 --> 05:40:15,952
pulling up the ladder after

11123
05:40:16,823 --> 05:40:17,523
they've made it out from from

11124
05:40:17,523 --> 05:40:21,123
the bottom and I will never

11125
05:40:22,327 --> 05:40:23,960
support that.

11126
05:40:23,960 --> 05:40:26,960
>> I've also heard folks refer

11127
05:40:26,499 --> 05:40:26,806
to Shawn just I'm just keep it

11128
05:40:26,806 --> 05:40:27,567
down.

11129
05:40:27,567 --> 05:40:31,167
You don't like it thumbs down

11130
05:40:32,500 --> 05:40:32,505
That conveys the message.

11131
05:40:32,505 --> 05:40:33,500
>> Thank you.

11132
05:40:33,500 --> 05:40:34,400
I appreciate it.

11133
05:40:34,400 --> 05:40:36,208
Can support it Also say this is

11134
05:40:36,208 --> 05:40:36,943
nothing new.

11135
05:40:36,943 --> 05:40:37,609
This is generally the response

11136
05:40:37,609 --> 05:40:40,813
that we get when we support

11137
05:40:40,813 --> 05:40:41,481
more housing and I won't be

11138
05:40:41,481 --> 05:40:42,148
deterred from advocating for

11139
05:40:42,148 --> 05:40:42,615
that in these chambers just

11140
05:40:42,615 --> 05:40:43,116
like I won't in

11141
05:40:43,116 --> 05:40:45,116
the neighborhoods.

11142
05:40:45,618 --> 05:40:46,186
I did that during my reelection

11143
05:40:46,186 --> 05:40:46,953
and I did quite well.

11144
05:40:46,953 --> 05:40:50,456
So I'm very competent to stand

11145
05:40:50,456 --> 05:40:51,424
on that in this room.

11146
05:40:51,424 --> 05:40:55,240
I also heard attacks on our

11147
05:40:55,462 --> 05:40:56,196
planning department hardworking

11148
05:40:56,196 --> 05:40:59,196
staff who have an incredibly

11149
05:40:59,765 --> 05:41:00,433
difficult job of creating more

11150
05:41:00,433 --> 05:41:01,000
housing and one of the most

11151
05:41:01,000 --> 05:41:03,000
strict and challenging

11152
05:41:05,500 --> 05:41:05,672
regulatory environments in

11153
05:41:05,672 --> 05:41:06,272
the country if not the most.

11154
05:41:06,272 --> 05:41:09,675
And so you MAY not like

11155
05:41:09,675 --> 05:41:10,377
the product that they produce

11156
05:41:10,377 --> 05:41:11,144
but questioning the motives or

11157
05:41:11,144 --> 05:41:14,744
the work ethic I think is

11158
05:41:15,215 --> 05:41:15,915
unacceptable.

11159
05:41:15,915 --> 05:41:16,583
And I apologize that you all

11160
05:41:16,583 --> 05:41:17,249
had to hear that because you

11161
05:41:17,249 --> 05:41:17,917
are good public servants who

11162
05:41:17,917 --> 05:41:20,553
show up every day to do your

11163
05:41:20,553 --> 05:41:21,254
jobs And I know you have a

11164
05:41:21,254 --> 05:41:21,954
whole team that supports that

11165
05:41:21,954 --> 05:41:22,355
work and I appreciate you for

11166
05:41:22,355 --> 05:41:24,355
doing that.

11167
05:41:25,291 --> 05:41:25,959
I also heard Holmes once

11168
05:41:25,959 --> 05:41:26,759
referred to as a plague and

11169
05:41:26,759 --> 05:41:29,696
another time referred to as

11170
05:41:29,696 --> 05:41:30,630
viruses 80 user homes.

11171
05:41:30,630 --> 05:41:34,601
You MAY not like that style of

11172
05:41:34,601 --> 05:41:35,234
housing but they are homes And

11173
05:41:35,234 --> 05:41:38,234
in those homes with people

11174
05:41:38,337 --> 05:41:38,638
people who are trying to get by

11175
05:41:38,638 --> 05:41:39,306
.

11176
05:41:39,306 --> 05:41:39,973
So words like plagues and

11177
05:41:39,973 --> 05:41:42,373
viruses to describe housing

11178
05:41:43,877 --> 05:41:44,477
that people are living in I

11179
05:41:44,477 --> 05:41:45,244
will not you will never

11180
05:41:45,244 --> 05:41:48,244
persuade me with language like

11181
05:41:49,215 --> 05:41:52,815
that Folks deserve a place to

11182
05:41:53,853 --> 05:41:54,621
live.

11183
05:41:54,621 --> 05:41:57,621
It's the basic foundation for

11184
05:41:59,459 --> 05:42:00,293
life, for opportunity And there

11185
05:42:00,293 --> 05:42:03,529
is no future in this city if

11186
05:42:03,529 --> 05:42:04,197
people do not believe that

11187
05:42:04,197 --> 05:42:04,898
they'll be able to afford to

11188
05:42:04,898 --> 05:42:08,134
live here so we can oppose

11189
05:42:08,134 --> 05:42:08,935
the exploitation of the program

11190
05:42:08,935 --> 05:42:12,535
and still not refer to housing

11191
05:42:13,740 --> 05:42:14,406
as a plague or as a virus.

11192
05:42:14,406 --> 05:42:16,806
Apartments and condos, our

11193
05:42:18,178 --> 05:42:18,911
homes and I will just share a

11194
05:42:18,911 --> 05:42:21,311
personal anecdote anecdote here

11195
05:42:23,216 --> 05:42:24,840
My step up from my family was a

11196
05:42:24,840 --> 05:42:27,684
step up into an apartment a

11197
05:42:28,355 --> 05:42:31,924
bigger apartment that was in a

11198
05:42:31,924 --> 05:42:32,659
single family neighborhood And

11199
05:42:32,659 --> 05:42:33,293
then our first homeowner show

11200
05:42:33,293 --> 05:42:34,930
Opportunity was is a condo

11201
05:42:34,930 --> 05:42:37,397
again in what is largely a

11202
05:42:37,397 --> 05:42:38,980
single family neighborhood.

11203
05:42:38,980 --> 05:42:38,899
Those opportunities were life

11204
05:42:38,899 --> 05:42:42,702
changing for me and my wife and

11205
05:42:42,702 --> 05:42:43,369
my son And I am deeply, deeply

11206
05:42:43,369 --> 05:42:45,769
appreciative that they exist

11207
05:42:46,573 --> 05:42:47,173
And I know that there are tens

11208
05:42:47,173 --> 05:42:47,841
of thousands hundreds of

11209
05:42:47,841 --> 05:42:50,841
thousands of San Diegans who

11210
05:42:51,277 --> 05:42:51,878
are looking for opportunities

11211
05:42:51,878 --> 05:42:54,278
like that as well.

11212
05:42:56,750 --> 05:42:57,449
So with that in mind I see what

11213
05:42:57,449 --> 05:42:58,151
staff has worked on is a

11214
05:42:58,151 --> 05:42:58,518
compromise that will no longer

11215
05:42:58,518 --> 05:43:00,518
be legal.

11216
05:43:02,122 --> 05:43:02,823
The worst examples that you

11217
05:43:02,823 --> 05:43:05,459
showed will no longer be legal

11218
05:43:05,459 --> 05:43:06,125
legal and that is why I support

11219
05:43:06,125 --> 05:43:08,525
the staff recommendation On

11220
05:43:10,497 --> 05:43:10,897
the second day of the motion.

11221
05:43:10,897 --> 05:43:11,598
All right.

11222
05:43:11,598 --> 05:43:12,299
We have a motion by Council

11223
05:43:12,299 --> 05:43:14,200
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee and a

11224
05:43:14,200 --> 05:43:14,967
second by council member Eli

11225
05:43:14,967 --> 05:43:17,967
Rivera to move the staff

11226
05:43:20,340 --> 05:43:21,700
recommendation And we'll go

11227
05:43:21,700 --> 05:43:23,407
next to Councilmember Bond.

11228
05:43:24,811 --> 05:43:25,379
Wolpert Thank you everyone.

11229
05:43:25,379 --> 05:43:27,779
Thanks for your work.

11230
05:43:30,830 --> 05:43:30,818
I appreciate you for working

11231
05:43:30,818 --> 05:43:31,384
for the City of Public Services

11232
05:43:31,384 --> 05:43:32,850
and I appreciate that

11233
05:43:32,850 --> 05:43:34,255
the public here thank you for

11234
05:43:34,255 --> 05:43:35,220
coming in today.

11235
05:43:35,220 --> 05:43:35,688
There's a reason that many of

11236
05:43:35,688 --> 05:43:39,288
us marched in the streets to

11237
05:43:39,293 --> 05:43:39,993
protect this kind of dialog

11238
05:43:39,993 --> 05:43:40,660
The year the council PRESIDENT

11239
05:43:40,660 --> 05:43:43,660
For trying to run these

11240
05:43:44,464 --> 05:43:45,132
meetings and you've been doing

11241
05:43:45,132 --> 05:43:45,798
this for a couple of days

11242
05:43:45,798 --> 05:43:48,798
straight now so I appreciate

11243
05:43:49,603 --> 05:43:51,603
you as well.

11244
05:43:53,373 --> 05:43:54,410
I also do I know the folks in

11245
05:43:54,410 --> 05:43:54,741
the planning department had

11246
05:43:54,741 --> 05:43:55,442
the intent to try and provide,

11247
05:43:55,442 --> 05:43:58,442
you know, more housing that's

11248
05:43:58,679 --> 05:43:59,445
accessible for folks And what

11249
05:43:59,445 --> 05:44:02,445
we're seeing and all these

11250
05:44:03,884 --> 05:44:04,551
pictures is not what was

11251
05:44:04,551 --> 05:44:06,951
intended and is completely

11252
05:44:06,953 --> 05:44:09,953
egregious And I cannot believe

11253
05:44:11,759 --> 05:44:12,793
it happened.

11254
05:44:12,793 --> 05:44:17,330
I mean I grew up here and I

11255
05:44:17,330 --> 05:44:17,998
understand that there are tiny,

11256
05:44:17,998 --> 05:44:18,732
tiny, tiny streets where you

11257
05:44:18,732 --> 05:44:21,535
can barely fit cars through And

11258
05:44:21,535 --> 05:44:22,202
now we're going to have people

11259
05:44:22,202 --> 05:44:22,936
parking there anywhere in my

11260
05:44:22,936 --> 05:44:23,603
district and d five if you go

11261
05:44:23,603 --> 05:44:26,300
to any multifamily housing

11262
05:44:26,907 --> 05:44:27,574
which I live in you'll see cars

11263
05:44:27,574 --> 05:44:30,574
parked up along the streets

11264
05:44:31,311 --> 05:44:32,790
because people are now parking

11265
05:44:32,790 --> 05:44:32,713
in to our apartments, to our

11266
05:44:32,713 --> 05:44:35,113
houses for sharing houses

11267
05:44:36,550 --> 05:44:37,284
because they're so expensive

11268
05:44:37,284 --> 05:44:37,618
And so we need the street

11269
05:44:37,618 --> 05:44:38,319
parking.

11270
05:44:38,319 --> 05:44:38,919
The residents who already live

11271
05:44:38,919 --> 05:44:40,987
there are already using

11272
05:44:40,987 --> 05:44:41,688
the street parking which made

11273
05:44:41,688 --> 05:44:42,423
it very awkward when a bike

11274
05:44:42,423 --> 05:44:45,960
lane came in overnight and took

11275
05:44:45,960 --> 05:44:46,292
away parking from my residence

11276
05:44:46,292 --> 05:44:47,227
.

11277
05:44:47,227 --> 05:44:50,364
We need bike lanes just not in

11278
05:44:50,364 --> 05:44:53,364
the wrong places so I'm

11279
05:44:55,535 --> 05:44:56,237
supportive of the reforms in

11280
05:44:56,237 --> 05:44:57,204
this package to bring it back.

11281
05:44:57,204 --> 05:45:00,774
I do have some questions though

11282
05:45:00,774 --> 05:45:01,475
especially when it comes to

11283
05:45:01,475 --> 05:45:02,176
the high fire severity zones.

11284
05:45:02,176 --> 05:45:05,176
I mean that's something we've

11285
05:45:06,379 --> 05:45:07,810
spoken about quite a bit And

11286
05:45:07,810 --> 05:45:10,681
this letter from hpd to be

11287
05:45:11,510 --> 05:45:11,752
honest a wild I mean I've been

11288
05:45:11,752 --> 05:45:12,860
a practicing lawyer for over a

11289
05:45:12,860 --> 05:45:14,860
decade.

11290
05:45:15,922 --> 05:45:16,590
I have never seen this.

11291
05:45:16,590 --> 05:45:18,990
It's not even final.

11292
05:45:21,461 --> 05:45:21,962
It doesn't really contain a lot

11293
05:45:21,962 --> 05:45:22,563
of legal analysis.

11294
05:45:22,563 --> 05:45:23,163
I assumed it would have.

11295
05:45:23,163 --> 05:45:26,163
And also isn't the bonus

11296
05:45:26,433 --> 05:45:26,966
program a voluntary program

11297
05:45:26,966 --> 05:45:27,701
that we opted into?

11298
05:45:27,701 --> 05:45:28,535
So how are they now threatening

11299
05:45:28,535 --> 05:45:30,937
that we're not going to meet

11300
05:45:30,937 --> 05:45:31,539
our housing element if it's

11301
05:45:31,539 --> 05:45:32,173
something we opted into

11302
05:45:32,173 --> 05:45:32,740
voluntarily, why can't we

11303
05:45:32,740 --> 05:45:34,740
voluntarily repeal it?

11304
05:45:41,448 --> 05:45:42,149
Yeah, you guys don't work for

11305
05:45:42,149 --> 05:45:45,749
hpd but I'm just wondering why

11306
05:45:45,920 --> 05:45:49,520
this has come down this way.

11307
05:46:00,236 --> 05:46:00,493
Well, good evening.

11308
05:46:00,493 --> 05:46:00,670
I don't want to speculate on

11309
05:46:00,670 --> 05:46:00,846
the motivations from a State

11310
05:46:00,846 --> 05:46:01,230
Department.

11311
05:46:01,230 --> 05:46:01,202
Our staff has met with each

11312
05:46:01,202 --> 05:46:01,381
city a couple of times.

11313
05:46:01,381 --> 05:46:01,702
We had received some

11314
05:46:01,702 --> 05:46:04,102
preliminary feedback from each

11315
05:46:04,872 --> 05:46:05,439
city that we had incorporated

11316
05:46:05,439 --> 05:46:06,730
into staff's proposal.

11317
05:46:06,730 --> 05:46:09,673
We were not aware that an

11318
05:46:09,944 --> 05:46:10,278
additional letter would be sent

11319
05:46:10,278 --> 05:46:11,110
to us.

11320
05:46:11,110 --> 05:46:11,345
We nonetheless received that on

11321
05:46:11,345 --> 05:46:11,978
Friday.

11322
05:46:11,978 --> 05:46:14,978
So we have worked very

11323
05:46:15,115 --> 05:46:15,783
diligently since that time to

11324
05:46:15,783 --> 05:46:16,517
provide the response that we

11325
05:46:16,517 --> 05:46:19,517
provided to Council on Saturday

11326
05:46:20,286 --> 05:46:20,754
evening with our responses to

11327
05:46:20,754 --> 05:46:21,355
the City letter.

11328
05:46:21,355 --> 05:46:24,758
But if you have any more

11329
05:46:24,758 --> 05:46:25,626
specific questions we're happy

11330
05:46:25,626 --> 05:46:26,427
to answer them as best we can

11331
05:46:26,427 --> 05:46:29,427
understanding that we are not

11332
05:46:29,730 --> 05:46:30,264
hpd and we will have to have

11333
05:46:30,264 --> 05:46:32,264
further many further

11334
05:46:34,201 --> 05:46:35,200
conversations with the agency

11335
05:46:35,200 --> 05:46:35,770
as we move forward to ensure

11336
05:46:35,770 --> 05:46:39,370
that the city remains with a

11337
05:46:40,107 --> 05:46:40,775
housing element that's in

11338
05:46:40,775 --> 05:46:41,141
compliance as determined by

11339
05:46:41,141 --> 05:46:41,575
each city.

11340
05:46:41,575 --> 05:46:43,575
>> Understood.

11341
05:46:45,112 --> 05:46:45,513
And I want us to be in

11342
05:46:45,513 --> 05:46:46,180
compliance.

11343
05:46:46,180 --> 05:46:46,881
I'm just quite shocked that

11344
05:46:46,881 --> 05:46:49,281
something that wasn't required

11345
05:46:50,500 --> 05:46:50,851
of us that we voluntarily chose

11346
05:46:50,851 --> 05:46:51,252
Why would we be out of

11347
05:46:51,252 --> 05:46:51,552
compliance?

11348
05:46:51,552 --> 05:46:52,220
Okay.

11349
05:46:52,220 --> 05:46:53,854
I do have a question about

11350
05:46:53,854 --> 05:46:54,555
the fire setback.

11351
05:46:54,555 --> 05:46:55,255
So the proposal that your

11352
05:46:55,255 --> 05:46:57,655
department had brought forward

11353
05:46:58,693 --> 05:46:59,493
which I agreed with was that in

11354
05:46:59,493 --> 05:47:00,361
high a very high fire severity

11355
05:47:00,361 --> 05:47:03,961
zones we would be maintaining a

11356
05:47:04,332 --> 05:47:05,320
minimum setback of five feet

11357
05:47:05,320 --> 05:47:08,320
which aligns with and with

11358
05:47:08,703 --> 05:47:09,470
state law.

11359
05:47:09,470 --> 05:47:10,237
It's ab 307 forward for zone

11360
05:47:10,237 --> 05:47:13,641
zero law that a lot of my

11361
05:47:13,641 --> 05:47:14,342
residents have been putting a

11362
05:47:14,342 --> 05:47:17,942
lot of money into cutting down

11363
05:47:18,579 --> 05:47:19,380
trees pergolas moving things

11364
05:47:19,380 --> 05:47:20,140
off of their property so they

11365
05:47:20,140 --> 05:47:20,381
can have the five feet of

11366
05:47:20,381 --> 05:47:22,381
clearance.

11367
05:47:24,218 --> 05:47:24,986
They didn't want to do these

11368
05:47:24,986 --> 05:47:25,720
things but they knew when their

11369
05:47:25,720 --> 05:47:26,453
insurance companies were coming

11370
05:47:26,453 --> 05:47:28,990
and they were getting discounts

11371
05:47:28,990 --> 05:47:29,657
for this so why would we then

11372
05:47:29,657 --> 05:47:32,657
thwart all those efforts and

11373
05:47:33,930 --> 05:47:34,280
allow for fee for you to use?

11374
05:47:34,280 --> 05:47:34,662
>> So as you're aware, when we

11375
05:47:34,662 --> 05:47:36,662
originally proposed these

11376
05:47:38,499 --> 05:47:39,200
amendments at the Planning

11377
05:47:39,200 --> 05:47:39,901
Commission as well as the Land

11378
05:47:39,901 --> 05:47:42,901
Use and Housing Committee, we

11379
05:47:43,471 --> 05:47:43,905
had proposed those with five

11380
05:47:43,905 --> 05:47:44,539
foot setbacks.

11381
05:47:44,539 --> 05:47:45,206
Those were proposed to be

11382
05:47:45,206 --> 05:47:47,606
consistent with what you've

11383
05:47:48,543 --> 05:47:49,177
mentioned regarding the five

11384
05:47:49,177 --> 05:47:51,577
feet of defensible space.

11385
05:47:52,547 --> 05:47:53,247
The challenge for us is that

11386
05:47:53,247 --> 05:47:53,981
the planning and zoning law in

11387
05:47:53,981 --> 05:47:56,981
the Government code specifies a

11388
05:47:58,850 --> 05:47:58,820
maximum of four foot setbacks

11389
05:47:58,820 --> 05:48:02,420
that the city can require based

11390
05:48:03,491 --> 05:48:04,292
off of the previous letter that

11391
05:48:04,292 --> 05:48:06,927
we had from eight cd That was

11392
05:48:06,927 --> 05:48:07,795
before last Friday's letter

11393
05:48:07,795 --> 05:48:11,765
They had told us in what I

11394
05:48:11,765 --> 05:48:12,667
believed to be more firm terms

11395
05:48:12,667 --> 05:48:13,301
than a lot of the statements

11396
05:48:13,301 --> 05:48:16,301
they made in their Friday

11397
05:48:17,238 --> 05:48:18,600
letter that we would be out of

11398
05:48:18,600 --> 05:48:18,873
compliance with a new law if we

11399
05:48:18,873 --> 05:48:21,743
had that five foot setback in

11400
05:48:21,743 --> 05:48:22,343
their Our clarifications do

11401
05:48:22,343 --> 05:48:25,343
still allow for the fire

11402
05:48:26,480 --> 05:48:27,215
official to require five feet

11403
05:48:27,215 --> 05:48:30,215
or greater to ensure compliance

11404
05:48:31,419 --> 05:48:32,530
with the fire code So that's

11405
05:48:32,530 --> 05:48:34,389
the language that has been

11406
05:48:34,389 --> 05:48:35,890
proposed here is that it's four

11407
05:48:35,890 --> 05:48:38,890
feet or greater as determined

11408
05:48:39,594 --> 05:48:40,327
by the fire official.

11409
05:48:40,327 --> 05:48:40,962
I do anticipate that during

11410
05:48:40,962 --> 05:48:41,663
the fire reviews the fire

11411
05:48:41,663 --> 05:48:43,931
officials will be determining

11412
05:48:43,931 --> 05:48:44,499
that additional setbacks are

11413
05:48:44,499 --> 05:48:45,200
required to meet that

11414
05:48:45,200 --> 05:48:47,200
defensible space requirement.

11415
05:48:49,270 --> 05:48:50,710
But the feedback that we had

11416
05:48:50,710 --> 05:48:53,671
received with from each cda was

11417
05:48:54,408 --> 05:48:54,909
to remove that from our land

11418
05:48:54,909 --> 05:48:56,909
development code.

11419
05:48:59,513 --> 05:49:00,140
So in my opinion it makes it

11420
05:49:00,140 --> 05:49:00,749
more complicated.

11421
05:49:00,749 --> 05:49:01,516
It would be nice to be able to

11422
05:49:01,516 --> 05:49:04,516
have our land development could

11423
05:49:04,652 --> 05:49:05,253
be up front and provide

11424
05:49:05,253 --> 05:49:05,953
certainty on what those

11425
05:49:05,953 --> 05:49:08,953
setbacks look like rather than

11426
05:49:09,524 --> 05:49:10,580
having to wait to go into a

11427
05:49:10,580 --> 05:49:10,891
fire review process.

11428
05:49:10,891 --> 05:49:13,727
However, I did not feel that it

11429
05:49:13,727 --> 05:49:14,362
was worth the risk to submit

11430
05:49:14,362 --> 05:49:17,362
the ordinance to each city

11431
05:49:17,931 --> 05:49:18,700
given that they had in writing

11432
05:49:18,700 --> 05:49:21,700
provided us with that feedback

11433
05:49:28,276 --> 05:49:29,770
that got it within Why don't we

11434
05:49:29,770 --> 05:49:29,944
write back to hpd and ask them

11435
05:49:29,944 --> 05:49:33,544
if they're going to pay our

11436
05:49:35,883 --> 05:49:36,918
increased insurance premiums?

11437
05:49:36,918 --> 05:49:41,118
>> Um, I mean and that we would

11438
05:49:43,224 --> 05:49:43,891
be in violation of state law.

11439
05:49:43,891 --> 05:49:44,592
My residents have invested a

11440
05:49:44,592 --> 05:49:46,494
lot of money preparing their

11441
05:49:46,494 --> 05:49:47,295
houses for Zone zero and it's

11442
05:49:47,295 --> 05:49:51,833
just kind of a slap in the face

11443
05:49:51,833 --> 05:49:52,533
to them that we you know and I

11444
05:49:52,533 --> 05:49:55,533
understand that it's not your

11445
05:49:56,938 --> 05:49:57,605
fault but we why if we have to

11446
05:49:57,605 --> 05:49:58,306
comply with a state law, why

11447
05:49:58,306 --> 05:50:00,475
don't we comply with the fire

11448
05:50:00,475 --> 05:50:01,409
state law?

11449
05:50:01,409 --> 05:50:02,900
So I'd prefer we put that back

11450
05:50:02,900 --> 05:50:05,900
in here to be honest.

11451
05:50:05,880 --> 05:50:06,614
So proposal is not to not

11452
05:50:06,614 --> 05:50:10,214
comply with the fire state law.

11453
05:50:10,719 --> 05:50:13,719
It's to identify the setback

11454
05:50:15,624 --> 05:50:16,324
requirement that is set forth

11455
05:50:16,324 --> 05:50:17,250
in the government code while

11456
05:50:17,250 --> 05:50:20,250
allowing for the fire official

11457
05:50:20,862 --> 05:50:21,563
to comply with state law that

11458
05:50:21,563 --> 05:50:22,163
requires for defensible space.

11459
05:50:22,163 --> 05:50:25,163
I understand that it is

11460
05:50:25,733 --> 05:50:26,434
frustrating and overly

11461
05:50:26,434 --> 05:50:27,302
bureaucratic but that is what

11462
05:50:27,302 --> 05:50:30,390
we have to work with from

11463
05:50:30,390 --> 05:50:32,390
the state.

11464
05:50:40,549 --> 05:50:41,215
Okay I if I would prefer they

11465
05:50:41,215 --> 05:50:44,215
came down consistent as well

11466
05:50:45,387 --> 05:50:46,188
For what it's worth all right.

11467
05:50:46,188 --> 05:50:46,521
We have more questions about

11468
05:50:46,521 --> 05:50:47,155
parking.

11469
05:50:47,155 --> 05:50:48,689
We're going to require

11470
05:50:48,689 --> 05:50:51,890
developers to provide parking

11471
05:50:53,327 --> 05:50:53,895
now right?

11472
05:50:53,895 --> 05:50:54,596
That is correct.

11473
05:50:54,596 --> 05:50:57,596
Under the proposal outside of

11474
05:50:58,500 --> 05:50:59,660
the transit priority area we

11475
05:50:59,660 --> 05:50:59,734
are proposing in these

11476
05:50:59,734 --> 05:51:01,734
regulations that additional

11477
05:51:03,571 --> 05:51:04,405
parking be required.

11478
05:51:04,405 --> 05:51:07,405
We are prohibited under state

11479
05:51:09,440 --> 05:51:09,678
law which is referred to as ab

11480
05:51:09,678 --> 05:51:11,678
2097 from imposing parking

11481
05:51:13,147 --> 05:51:13,815
requirements on a wide variety

11482
05:51:13,815 --> 05:51:14,483
of development projects that

11483
05:51:14,483 --> 05:51:17,483
are located within a transit

11484
05:51:17,852 --> 05:51:18,687
priority area.

11485
05:51:18,687 --> 05:51:21,870
>> So are these amendments

11486
05:51:23,525 --> 05:51:24,192
going as far as we can and

11487
05:51:24,192 --> 05:51:26,592
requiring off street parking

11488
05:51:27,328 --> 05:51:28,300
and under law in terms of

11489
05:51:28,300 --> 05:51:31,300
the areas that we're applying

11490
05:51:32,000 --> 05:51:32,867
into we did propose them to

11491
05:51:32,867 --> 05:51:37,670
apply on all areas that are not

11492
05:51:37,306 --> 05:51:37,972
otherwise prohibited by

11493
05:51:37,972 --> 05:51:38,273
the state law under ab 2097.

11494
05:51:38,273 --> 05:51:40,273
Okay.

11495
05:51:42,711 --> 05:51:43,345
So what if there's a cold

11496
05:51:43,345 --> 05:51:45,745
attacked by neighbors for

11497
05:51:46,415 --> 05:51:46,982
better San Diego showed but you

11498
05:51:46,982 --> 05:51:47,648
can't actually get to

11499
05:51:47,648 --> 05:51:50,648
the transit unless you walk

11500
05:51:51,586 --> 05:51:52,354
around the freeway.

11501
05:51:52,354 --> 05:51:53,210
So we we did have this

11502
05:51:53,210 --> 05:51:55,421
discussion because the city

11503
05:51:56,891 --> 05:51:57,593
council did adopt what was

11504
05:51:57,593 --> 05:52:00,593
brought forward for the count

11505
05:52:01,929 --> 05:52:02,530
for the city's adoption of ab

11506
05:52:02,530 --> 05:52:03,232
nine 2097 And there was

11507
05:52:03,232 --> 05:52:06,232
the discussion of the walking

11508
05:52:07,350 --> 05:52:07,336
distance versus as the crow

11509
05:52:07,336 --> 05:52:08,360
flies.

11510
05:52:08,360 --> 05:52:10,839
The challenge that we have is

11511
05:52:10,839 --> 05:52:11,539
that where the state

11512
05:52:11,539 --> 05:52:12,400
legislature has identified in

11513
05:52:12,400 --> 05:52:12,741
other portions of

11514
05:52:12,741 --> 05:52:15,741
the government code where they

11515
05:52:16,512 --> 05:52:17,212
have intended to it for it to

11516
05:52:17,212 --> 05:52:17,812
be limited to walking distance

11517
05:52:17,812 --> 05:52:20,812
they have so stated that

11518
05:52:21,216 --> 05:52:24,216
whereas in ab 2097 the language

11519
05:52:25,820 --> 05:52:26,522
has just specified the half

11520
05:52:26,522 --> 05:52:29,522
mile distance which we haven't

11521
05:52:31,160 --> 05:52:31,893
felt like we can interpret to

11522
05:52:31,893 --> 05:52:32,494
be a walking distance given

11523
05:52:32,494 --> 05:52:33,162
that the legislature has

11524
05:52:33,162 --> 05:52:35,562
specified otherwise in other

11525
05:52:36,799 --> 05:52:37,466
sections such as sb nine I will

11526
05:52:37,466 --> 05:52:39,301
defer to the city Attorney's

11527
05:52:39,301 --> 05:52:41,701
office for any additional

11528
05:52:44,673 --> 05:52:47,730
opinions on that matter.

11529
05:52:49,378 --> 05:52:50,279
>> Okay then um it sounds like

11530
05:52:50,279 --> 05:52:50,913
we're kind of confined by a lot

11531
05:52:50,913 --> 05:52:54,513
of the things the state is

11532
05:52:55,170 --> 05:52:58,420
bringing down on us And I mean

11533
05:52:58,420 --> 05:52:58,921
I think having an edu or 2 or 3

11534
05:52:58,921 --> 05:52:59,687
a four is it?

11535
05:52:59,687 --> 05:53:02,687
Hey did your private property

11536
05:53:03,559 --> 05:53:04,260
if you want to have a couple of

11537
05:53:04,260 --> 05:53:04,893
to use that's fine but if you

11538
05:53:04,893 --> 05:53:05,594
want to have an apartment

11539
05:53:05,594 --> 05:53:06,262
building then you should have

11540
05:53:06,262 --> 05:53:09,262
been zoned for an apartment

11541
05:53:12,670 --> 05:53:12,634
building So I know I appreciate

11542
05:53:12,634 --> 05:53:13,350
we're trying to manage

11543
05:53:13,350 --> 05:53:13,702
the meeting.

11544
05:53:13,702 --> 05:53:16,272
>> I'm trying to support my

11545
05:53:16,272 --> 05:53:19,272
council PRESIDENT Here so why

11546
05:53:21,443 --> 05:53:22,144
don't we do I'd like to put an

11547
05:53:22,144 --> 05:53:25,744
amendment out and I have no

11548
05:53:26,282 --> 05:53:26,982
idea how to do this but the for

11549
05:53:26,982 --> 05:53:30,582
for everyone I think it should

11550
05:53:31,530 --> 05:53:31,820
be for everywhere.

11551
05:53:31,820 --> 05:53:32,588
That's what the cpc recommended

11552
05:53:32,588 --> 05:53:36,188
as well in their letter and

11553
05:53:38,600 --> 05:53:38,694
congratulation is by the way

11554
05:53:38,694 --> 05:53:39,361
the descriptions platting

11555
05:53:39,361 --> 05:53:40,830
chairs the new chair the cpc

11556
05:53:40,830 --> 05:53:41,497
Victoria approves the way we

11557
05:53:41,497 --> 05:53:42,164
appreciate her service so I

11558
05:53:42,164 --> 05:53:42,765
would rather do that because

11559
05:53:42,765 --> 05:53:45,201
that might limit some of

11560
05:53:45,201 --> 05:53:45,967
the parking issues and other

11561
05:53:45,967 --> 05:53:46,535
things that we can't deal with

11562
05:53:46,535 --> 05:53:47,236
because of state law.

11563
05:53:47,236 --> 05:53:50,739
So I would put forth an

11564
05:53:50,739 --> 05:53:51,340
amendment to my colleagues to

11565
05:53:51,340 --> 05:53:53,740
make it for everywhere.

11566
05:53:55,744 --> 05:53:56,511
>> Thank you.

11567
05:53:56,511 --> 05:53:59,511
>> I don't know where in

11568
05:54:00,150 --> 05:54:00,850
the code to do that exactly.

11569
05:54:00,850 --> 05:54:01,550
>> So City Tree might have to

11570
05:54:01,550 --> 05:54:01,850
help me craft that amendment.

11571
05:54:01,850 --> 05:54:03,850
Okay.

11572
05:54:05,286 --> 05:54:05,955
As it stands I believe that's a

11573
05:54:05,955 --> 05:54:07,955
friendly amendment amendment

11574
05:54:10,250 --> 05:54:10,726
that's been offered to the I'm

11575
05:54:10,726 --> 05:54:13,726
pretty friendly so well so

11576
05:54:15,531 --> 05:54:16,398
the maker of the motion in a

11577
05:54:16,398 --> 05:54:19,635
second since we do make sense

11578
05:54:19,635 --> 05:54:20,336
with the four because I don't

11579
05:54:20,336 --> 05:54:20,970
have language for it I just I

11580
05:54:20,970 --> 05:54:23,970
know that that's would be

11581
05:54:24,240 --> 05:54:24,906
requested of folks Yeah I don't

11582
05:54:24,906 --> 05:54:25,641
know that that's necessarily

11583
05:54:25,641 --> 05:54:26,207
drafted up in any way because I

11584
05:54:26,207 --> 05:54:28,544
feel like everyone has

11585
05:54:28,544 --> 05:54:29,780
different numbers that have

11586
05:54:29,780 --> 05:54:29,745
been tossed around.

11587
05:54:29,745 --> 05:54:30,446
I've continued to stick with

11588
05:54:30,446 --> 05:54:32,982
the developing skill that has

11589
05:54:32,982 --> 05:54:35,982
been presented by staff that

11590
05:54:38,353 --> 05:54:39,210
does range based on size and so

11591
05:54:39,210 --> 05:54:39,989
if a customer would like to

11592
05:54:39,989 --> 05:54:43,589
pursue that I'm sure you can

11593
05:54:45,494 --> 05:54:46,950
continue that in the typical

11594
05:54:46,950 --> 05:54:48,950
amendment fashion Maybe

11595
05:54:50,299 --> 05:54:51,000
the city attorney can help with

11596
05:54:51,000 --> 05:54:54,000
Table 140 1.-03a The maximum

11597
05:54:56,272 --> 05:54:57,600
number of permitted to use and

11598
05:54:57,600 --> 05:54:57,740
to use on single dwelling lots

11599
05:54:57,740 --> 05:54:58,341
So no matter the square footage

11600
05:54:58,341 --> 05:55:01,341
it would be for across

11601
05:55:02,410 --> 05:55:03,446
the board.

11602
05:55:03,446 --> 05:55:07,517
>> Okay I mean I can work on

11603
05:55:07,517 --> 05:55:08,183
putting that together and then

11604
05:55:08,183 --> 05:55:11,183
run it by your staff.

11605
05:55:12,722 --> 05:55:13,589
Is that would you would like I

11606
05:55:13,589 --> 05:55:14,557
would be has to be in writing

11607
05:55:14,557 --> 05:55:17,493
So yes I just feel bad if

11608
05:55:17,493 --> 05:55:18,161
you're going to do all that

11609
05:55:18,161 --> 05:55:18,894
work if you could we take a

11610
05:55:18,894 --> 05:55:19,595
vote or I don't know it's up to

11611
05:55:19,595 --> 05:55:22,310
you but that's what I'd prefer

11612
05:55:22,310 --> 05:55:22,898
to do Exactly right.

11613
05:55:22,898 --> 05:55:26,498
>> I think if it's a friendly

11614
05:55:27,236 --> 05:55:27,870
amendment I think the maker of

11615
05:55:27,870 --> 05:55:28,504
the motion understands it

11616
05:55:28,504 --> 05:55:31,730
enough We could figure out

11617
05:55:31,730 --> 05:55:31,874
where we'd go.

11618
05:55:31,874 --> 05:55:32,607
>> But if it's a friendly

11619
05:55:32,607 --> 05:55:33,176
amendment I didn't think it was

11620
05:55:33,176 --> 05:55:35,176
a friendly amendment.

11621
05:55:36,379 --> 05:55:37,113
So if if you'd like to move it

11622
05:55:37,113 --> 05:55:40,113
forward as a separate amendment

11623
05:55:40,950 --> 05:55:41,317
that's fine.

11624
05:55:41,317 --> 05:55:41,984
>> Sure.

11625
05:55:41,984 --> 05:55:44,984
I would put forward a

11626
05:55:45,588 --> 05:55:46,288
substitute motion then for

11627
05:55:46,288 --> 05:55:47,900
staff recommendation but make

11628
05:55:47,900 --> 05:55:50,900
that amendment that it's for

11629
05:55:51,127 --> 05:55:51,661
everywhere.

11630
05:55:51,661 --> 05:55:52,940
All right.

11631
05:55:52,940 --> 05:55:52,394
Get a second.

11632
05:55:52,394 --> 05:55:53,663
Great.

11633
05:55:53,663 --> 05:55:57,863
If I don't and I'll go down.

11634
05:55:58,234 --> 05:56:01,234
>> So again so that's a

11635
05:56:03,720 --> 05:56:03,940
substitute motion.

11636
05:56:03,940 --> 05:56:07,176
>> You just want to vote on

11637
05:56:07,176 --> 05:56:08,111
the amendment or do you want to

11638
05:56:08,111 --> 05:56:12,911
I think you just want a vote on

11639
05:56:14,249 --> 05:56:14,984
the amendment that would then

11640
05:56:14,984 --> 05:56:15,651
we could do that to the staff.

11641
05:56:15,651 --> 05:56:17,887
Yeah because it's basically

11642
05:56:17,887 --> 05:56:18,754
the same as Council Pro tem

11643
05:56:18,754 --> 05:56:19,355
Just I would add just that say

11644
05:56:19,355 --> 05:56:22,191
I favor nation plus my

11645
05:56:22,191 --> 05:56:22,859
amendment So okay do we need to

11646
05:56:22,859 --> 05:56:23,292
pause and can I get a

11647
05:56:23,292 --> 05:56:25,292
clarification?

11648
05:56:26,962 --> 05:56:27,697
>> Yes And this is just for

11649
05:56:27,697 --> 05:56:28,300
single family, not multifamily,

11650
05:56:28,300 --> 05:56:28,364
correct?

11651
05:56:28,364 --> 05:56:29,999
>> Yes.

11652
05:56:29,999 --> 05:56:33,599
For single family Do we not

11653
05:56:35,271 --> 05:56:36,390
have So we would need a second

11654
05:56:36,390 --> 05:56:39,639
if we're going to move forward

11655
05:56:39,909 --> 05:56:40,409
on this.

11656
05:56:40,409 --> 05:56:41,911
>> Okay.

11657
05:56:41,911 --> 05:56:43,911
I'll second it.

11658
05:56:58,161 --> 05:56:59,280
>> Thank you.

11659
05:56:59,280 --> 05:56:59,596
See what I'm what you're voting

11660
05:56:59,596 --> 05:57:01,965
on with a new motion.

11661
05:57:01,965 --> 05:57:02,931
Okay.

11662
05:57:02,931 --> 05:57:06,703
Do we need to have that in

11663
05:57:06,703 --> 05:57:07,436
writing before voting or we

11664
05:57:07,436 --> 05:57:08,170
will need to craft an amendment

11665
05:57:08,170 --> 05:57:11,574
in writing And if we could just

11666
05:57:11,574 --> 05:57:12,375
take a quick break to determine

11667
05:57:12,375 --> 05:57:12,975
how best to do that and where

11668
05:57:12,975 --> 05:57:15,512
it would go in the code.

11669
05:57:15,512 --> 05:57:17,512
>> Okay.

11670
05:57:19,648 --> 05:57:21,648
>> And 510 Okay.

11671
05:57:38,601 --> 05:57:42,201
>> We only need five minutes so

11672
05:57:51,848 --> 05:57:53,848
we All right?

11673
06:00:00,944 --> 06:00:02,944
Yeah I

11674
06:03:03,961 --> 06:03:07,561
yeah I know And I'm I'm

11675
06:03:56,380 --> 06:03:58,380
I'm I'm

11676
06:05:00,979 --> 06:05:02,979
okay

11677
06:07:00,899 --> 06:07:02,899
And

11678
06:12:28,861 --> 06:12:30,861
I just

11679
06:13:50,810 --> 06:13:51,211
I have four you have on.

11680
06:13:51,211 --> 06:13:52,440
All right.

11681
06:13:52,440 --> 06:13:55,644
We're going to get resume on

11682
06:13:56,115 --> 06:13:56,983
this again remember the golden

11683
06:13:56,983 --> 06:13:58,985
rule five minutes for recess is

11684
06:13:58,985 --> 06:14:01,985
never five minutes So city

11685
06:14:04,190 --> 06:14:04,557
clerk please call the roll.

11686
06:14:04,557 --> 06:14:06,557
Thank you.

11687
06:14:08,228 --> 06:14:08,995
Council council member Campbell

11688
06:14:08,995 --> 06:14:09,362
I do see you, Councilmember

11689
06:14:09,362 --> 06:14:11,362
Campbell.

11690
06:14:13,767 --> 06:14:14,100
>> I do see you But you need to

11691
06:14:14,100 --> 06:14:14,467
unmute.

11692
06:14:14,467 --> 06:14:14,968
I'm here.

11693
06:14:14,968 --> 06:14:17,700
Thank you so much.

11694
06:14:17,700 --> 06:14:19,700
Thank you.

11695
06:14:22,442 --> 06:14:23,760
Council member whitburn Council

11696
06:14:23,760 --> 06:14:25,476
Member Foster here Council

11697
06:14:26,746 --> 06:14:29,746
Member Von Wilpert and Council

11698
06:14:31,718 --> 06:14:32,385
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee here Some

11699
06:14:32,385 --> 06:14:35,385
member Can you hear Council

11700
06:14:35,455 --> 06:14:37,855
member Moreno present Council

11701
06:14:40,827 --> 06:14:41,461
member Ellen Rivera

11702
06:14:41,461 --> 06:14:42,295
The PRESIDENT Look LaCava

11703
06:14:42,295 --> 06:14:44,664
present All right we do have a

11704
06:14:44,664 --> 06:14:47,640
quorum through the very

11705
06:14:49,669 --> 06:14:50,437
attentive city attorney and

11706
06:14:50,437 --> 06:14:53,437
the city clerk we have

11707
06:14:54,240 --> 06:14:54,974
clarified that In fact

11708
06:14:54,974 --> 06:14:57,974
COUNCILMAN Van Wolpert has made

11709
06:14:59,790 --> 06:14:59,779
a substitute motion which is to

11710
06:14:59,779 --> 06:15:02,179
move the staff recommendation

11711
06:15:04,117 --> 06:15:04,917
but make the change for only

11712
06:15:04,917 --> 06:15:08,517
for 80 use And I think there's

11713
06:15:09,540 --> 06:15:09,789
language up on the screen a

11714
06:15:09,789 --> 06:15:10,190
little bit tiny but perhaps you

11715
06:15:10,190 --> 06:15:12,190
can see it.

11716
06:15:13,927 --> 06:15:14,694
So I think the city attorney

11717
06:15:14,694 --> 06:15:15,495
wanted to make a comment before

11718
06:15:15,495 --> 06:15:19,950
we go back to council members

11719
06:15:19,366 --> 06:15:19,732
for discussion.

11720
06:15:19,732 --> 06:15:20,233
Thank you.

11721
06:15:20,233 --> 06:15:20,933
Council PRESIDENT.

11722
06:15:20,933 --> 06:15:21,635
I will ask Senior Chief Deputy

11723
06:15:21,635 --> 06:15:23,135
City Attorney Karen New for to

11724
06:15:23,135 --> 06:15:23,637
comment on the motion.

11725
06:15:23,637 --> 06:15:24,404
Thank you.

11726
06:15:24,404 --> 06:15:28,400
I wanted to just clarify for

11727
06:15:28,374 --> 06:15:29,142
the record that under state law

11728
06:15:29,142 --> 06:15:33,213
the city is required to have an

11729
06:15:33,213 --> 06:15:33,880
incentive program incentivizing

11730
06:15:33,880 --> 06:15:35,880
incentivizing the affordable

11731
06:15:38,919 --> 06:15:41,919
adus this proposed motion would

11732
06:15:43,456 --> 06:15:44,157
allow for one extra area beyond

11733
06:15:44,157 --> 06:15:44,424
what is required under state

11734
06:15:44,424 --> 06:15:46,424
law.

11735
06:15:47,461 --> 06:15:48,161
There is a possibility that cd

11736
06:15:48,161 --> 06:15:48,762
MAY not find that to

11737
06:15:48,762 --> 06:15:50,762
incentivize enough given

11738
06:15:52,632 --> 06:15:53,566
the current program.

11739
06:15:53,566 --> 06:15:57,766
>> And so I just wanted you to

11740
06:15:57,904 --> 06:15:58,372
be aware of that.

11741
06:15:58,372 --> 06:15:59,239
Okay, Thank you.

11742
06:15:59,239 --> 06:16:02,542
And then the remedy if it were

11743
06:16:02,542 --> 06:16:03,243
to be if this were to pass and

11744
06:16:03,243 --> 06:16:06,843
the remedy would be what would

11745
06:16:06,847 --> 06:16:07,481
be mad at us now what we do So

11746
06:16:07,481 --> 06:16:09,881
after something is adopted

11747
06:16:12,151 --> 06:16:12,819
the city is required to submit

11748
06:16:12,819 --> 06:16:15,819
that ordinance to each city.

11749
06:16:16,690 --> 06:16:17,490
They then make a determination

11750
06:16:17,490 --> 06:16:21,900
as to whether it complies with

11751
06:16:21,929 --> 06:16:22,696
the state housing laws If they

11752
06:16:22,696 --> 06:16:23,363
do not think it complies with

11753
06:16:23,363 --> 06:16:26,133
the state housing laws they

11754
06:16:26,133 --> 06:16:26,833
will let us know they present

11755
06:16:26,833 --> 06:16:29,833
findings letting us know that

11756
06:16:30,871 --> 06:16:31,772
they don't think it complies

11757
06:16:31,772 --> 06:16:32,306
and then the city can take an

11758
06:16:32,306 --> 06:16:34,306
opportunity to amend

11759
06:16:36,510 --> 06:16:36,910
the ordinance at that time.

11760
06:16:36,910 --> 06:16:37,277
>> Okay.

11761
06:16:37,277 --> 06:16:37,678
All right.

11762
06:16:37,678 --> 06:16:39,678
Thank you.

11763
06:16:42,382 --> 06:16:42,850
Do this all over again.

11764
06:16:42,850 --> 06:16:43,616
All right.

11765
06:16:43,616 --> 06:16:44,251
So we have the motion by a

11766
06:16:44,251 --> 06:16:45,686
councilmember a substitute

11767
06:16:45,686 --> 06:16:46,420
motion by COUNCILMAN Bond for

11768
06:16:46,420 --> 06:16:49,420
second by Council member Campo.

11769
06:16:50,323 --> 06:16:50,958
Now there's an opportunity for

11770
06:16:50,958 --> 06:16:51,592
council members to discuss

11771
06:16:51,592 --> 06:16:53,593
the motion that is now on

11772
06:16:53,593 --> 06:16:57,193
the floor and we'll go to

11773
06:16:58,799 --> 06:16:59,266
Councilmember Foster.

11774
06:16:59,266 --> 06:17:00,400
>> Oh, yes.

11775
06:17:00,400 --> 06:17:04,204
I just want to go back to your

11776
06:17:04,204 --> 06:17:07,204
comment regarding the cd and

11777
06:17:08,909 --> 06:17:09,709
I'm confused because we said

11778
06:17:09,709 --> 06:17:12,709
that there is no other

11779
06:17:13,280 --> 06:17:15,849
municipality that has a bonus

11780
06:17:15,849 --> 06:17:17,849
edu program.

11781
06:17:21,221 --> 06:17:22,255
Is that accurate?

11782
06:17:22,255 --> 06:17:26,326
I do not know if that is

11783
06:17:26,326 --> 06:17:27,261
accurate.

11784
06:17:27,261 --> 06:17:30,397
Oh I can comment on I believe

11785
06:17:30,397 --> 06:17:31,970
that that is accurate To my

11786
06:17:31,970 --> 06:17:33,497
knowledge our housing element

11787
06:17:35,703 --> 06:17:36,303
which was certified and is

11788
06:17:36,303 --> 06:17:36,903
currently certified does

11789
06:17:36,903 --> 06:17:37,237
reference the adu bonus

11790
06:17:37,237 --> 06:17:39,237
program.

11791
06:17:40,507 --> 06:17:41,141
It does not reference

11792
06:17:41,141 --> 06:17:41,542
the specifics of what that

11793
06:17:41,542 --> 06:17:43,542
looks like.

11794
06:17:44,712 --> 06:17:45,411
It does identify what I would

11795
06:17:45,411 --> 06:17:48,411
refer to is a performance

11796
06:17:50,216 --> 06:17:52,216
standard of achieving 40

11797
06:17:55,789 --> 06:17:56,656
affordable 80 use per year.

11798
06:17:56,656 --> 06:18:00,628
Okay And thank you for that And

11799
06:18:00,628 --> 06:18:01,528
I guess I would have to ask

11800
06:18:01,528 --> 06:18:05,980
based on the information that i

11801
06:18:05,980 --> 06:18:05,799
think was discussed or was

11802
06:18:05,799 --> 06:18:08,799
brought to light during public

11803
06:18:10,370 --> 06:18:13,637
comment, it sounds like we have

11804
06:18:14,841 --> 06:18:15,509
exceeded those performance

11805
06:18:15,509 --> 06:18:17,909
numbers as a requirement.

11806
06:18:20,447 --> 06:18:20,814
Is that accurate or is that not

11807
06:18:20,814 --> 06:18:22,814
accurate?

11808
06:18:24,251 --> 06:18:24,852
>> The performance standard was

11809
06:18:24,852 --> 06:18:25,519
40 accessory affordable

11810
06:18:25,519 --> 06:18:27,919
accessory dwelling units per

11811
06:18:29,223 --> 06:18:31,223
year.

11812
06:18:32,726 --> 06:18:33,460
We have permitted between 2021

11813
06:18:33,460 --> 06:18:34,940
and 2024 over 300 so we would

11814
06:18:34,940 --> 06:18:36,494
be exceeding that number.

11815
06:18:38,320 --> 06:18:38,566
So we have exceeded the So

11816
06:18:38,566 --> 06:18:40,966
that's a good thing.

11817
06:18:41,702 --> 06:18:42,403
>> Would you agree that meeting

11818
06:18:42,403 --> 06:18:42,703
our targets is a good thing?

11819
06:18:42,703 --> 06:18:44,703
Yes.

11820
06:18:46,740 --> 06:18:47,141
Okay.

11821
06:18:47,141 --> 06:18:49,141
Okay.

11822
06:18:51,278 --> 06:18:56,780
I think I will I think I will

11823
06:18:56,183 --> 06:18:57,510
leave that There is I'm curious

11824
06:18:57,510 --> 06:19:00,651
to say curious to call for

11825
06:19:01,588 --> 06:19:02,550
the question and see how this

11826
06:19:02,550 --> 06:19:02,423
vote turns out.

11827
06:19:02,423 --> 06:19:04,423
All right.

11828
06:19:07,940 --> 06:19:07,595
Are there to conclude my

11829
06:19:07,595 --> 06:19:07,962
comments for now.

11830
06:19:07,962 --> 06:19:08,729
All right.

11831
06:19:08,729 --> 06:19:11,767
I'm going to take it as a

11832
06:19:11,767 --> 06:19:12,399
friendly call for Councilmember

11833
06:19:12,399 --> 06:19:12,767
Campeon Thank you, council

11834
06:19:12,767 --> 06:19:14,767
PRESIDENT.

11835
06:19:15,403 --> 06:19:19,300
>> Thank you to the members of

11836
06:19:20,774 --> 06:19:21,475
the public for 810 meetings Now

11837
06:19:21,475 --> 06:19:25,750
that you've shown out to give

11838
06:19:25,913 --> 06:19:26,580
us your feedback and all

11839
06:19:26,580 --> 06:19:29,580
the other meetings you have

11840
06:19:29,917 --> 06:19:30,685
that are not at the Council I

11841
06:19:30,685 --> 06:19:34,285
have prepared remarks but I was

11842
06:19:34,955 --> 06:19:35,489
writing down a few as I was

11843
06:19:35,489 --> 06:19:36,156
eating my goldfish.

11844
06:19:36,156 --> 06:19:36,891
A few of the comments that

11845
06:19:36,891 --> 06:19:39,891
people have pointed out and

11846
06:19:40,494 --> 06:19:41,228
phrases that really just

11847
06:19:41,228 --> 06:19:41,829
reverberated with me and that I

11848
06:19:41,829 --> 06:19:43,764
know reverberate with my

11849
06:19:43,764 --> 06:19:44,732
neighbors and my constituents

11850
06:19:44,732 --> 06:19:47,732
in District seven out of

11851
06:19:49,437 --> 06:19:50,136
control very apropos

11852
06:19:50,136 --> 06:19:53,736
the program has been out of

11853
06:19:53,908 --> 06:19:54,709
control and it seemed like from

11854
06:19:54,709 --> 06:19:57,709
what was presented 97 to 98% of

11855
06:19:58,846 --> 06:19:59,179
all the projects are not out of

11856
06:19:59,179 --> 06:19:59,746
control.

11857
06:19:59,746 --> 06:20:00,481
Three or so percent of

11858
06:20:00,481 --> 06:20:04,170
the projects are out of control

11859
06:20:04,170 --> 06:20:07,170
and those are really ruining

11860
06:20:07,888 --> 06:20:08,655
the sense of community.

11861
06:20:08,655 --> 06:20:09,390
I know people say neighborhood

11862
06:20:09,390 --> 06:20:12,390
character sense of community is

11863
06:20:13,600 --> 06:20:13,761
what I hear coming through and

11864
06:20:13,761 --> 06:20:14,495
my neighbors in Linda Vista, I

11865
06:20:14,495 --> 06:20:15,195
want to thank you in particular

11866
06:20:15,195 --> 06:20:18,332
for being out here for working

11867
06:20:18,332 --> 06:20:19,167
with Miles and Summer Miles.

11868
06:20:19,167 --> 06:20:22,767
Let me know just how angering

11869
06:20:23,571 --> 06:20:24,305
it was and how disappointed you

11870
06:20:24,305 --> 06:20:26,407
were that there was that

11871
06:20:26,407 --> 06:20:28,807
the complete destruction of

11872
06:20:31,312 --> 06:20:32,120
privacy that came about near

11873
06:20:32,120 --> 06:20:35,120
transit Some some folks said

11874
06:20:36,718 --> 06:20:37,284
oh, this is we need to keep

11875
06:20:37,284 --> 06:20:37,985
building near transit.

11876
06:20:37,985 --> 06:20:40,822
It's not bearing out that this

11877
06:20:40,822 --> 06:20:41,489
is really near transit.

11878
06:20:41,489 --> 06:20:43,889
Someone called it community

11879
06:20:45,726 --> 06:20:46,527
friendly developments.

11880
06:20:46,527 --> 06:20:48,695
I don't hear any community

11881
06:20:48,695 --> 06:20:49,497
who's saying that they want

11882
06:20:49,497 --> 06:20:51,897
the 3% of the developments

11883
06:20:54,402 --> 06:20:55,102
coming through Puti place Who

11884
06:20:55,102 --> 06:20:58,102
are the folks from Peabody

11885
06:20:59,340 --> 06:21:00,208
Place?

11886
06:21:00,208 --> 06:21:00,942
I think they might not be here

11887
06:21:00,942 --> 06:21:01,375
anymore but it seems like a lot

11888
06:21:01,375 --> 06:21:03,375
There you are.

11889
06:21:04,412 --> 06:21:05,146
It seems like a lot of these

11890
06:21:05,146 --> 06:21:08,146
particularly the 3% of very big

11891
06:21:09,516 --> 06:21:10,318
developments are tucked away in

11892
06:21:10,318 --> 06:21:13,254
a place that most of San Diego

11893
06:21:13,254 --> 06:21:14,122
can't see but that those

11894
06:21:14,122 --> 06:21:16,522
particular pockets are being

11895
06:21:19,270 --> 06:21:19,460
undermined, that that's that's

11896
06:21:19,460 --> 06:21:21,460
disappointing.

11897
06:21:23,310 --> 06:21:23,764
And then the quote that was

11898
06:21:23,764 --> 06:21:26,934
underlined from folks we have a

11899
06:21:26,934 --> 06:21:27,669
unique there was it was from

11900
06:21:27,669 --> 06:21:28,403
one of the investment materials

11901
06:21:28,403 --> 06:21:31,639
We have a unique opportunity to

11902
06:21:31,639 --> 06:21:32,340
acquire these properties now

11903
06:21:32,340 --> 06:21:34,740
before homeowner awareness and

11904
06:21:37,345 --> 06:21:38,120
prices jump up it says

11905
06:21:38,120 --> 06:21:41,120
everything you need to know

11906
06:21:41,415 --> 06:21:41,749
They're hoping you're not aware

11907
06:21:41,749 --> 06:21:42,450
.

11908
06:21:42,450 --> 06:21:45,450
They're hoping no one's aware

11909
06:21:46,854 --> 06:21:47,454
And in that on slide they even

11910
06:21:47,454 --> 06:21:48,550
called it the edu craze.

11911
06:21:48,550 --> 06:21:48,589
They described their own

11912
06:21:48,589 --> 06:21:50,989
projects as a craze.

11913
06:21:51,258 --> 06:21:55,458
I, I just want to say I've

11914
06:21:55,863 --> 06:21:56,631
really been listening a lot to

11915
06:21:56,631 --> 06:21:57,264
what what you all were saying

11916
06:21:57,264 --> 06:22:00,264
today And let's be honest

11917
06:22:00,735 --> 06:22:01,336
the reason you're here

11918
06:22:01,336 --> 06:22:02,360
the reason we're here is

11919
06:22:02,360 --> 06:22:02,637
because of the people sitting

11920
06:22:02,637 --> 06:22:05,473
out there that have been

11921
06:22:05,473 --> 06:22:05,773
advocating for this for so

11922
06:22:05,773 --> 06:22:06,541
long.

11923
06:22:06,541 --> 06:22:09,541
>> Show up, speak out, stay

11924
06:22:10,477 --> 06:22:11,178
engaged, gave frankly excellent

11925
06:22:11,178 --> 06:22:11,879
suggestions over and over and

11926
06:22:11,879 --> 06:22:15,250
over again And I want to thank

11927
06:22:15,250 --> 06:22:16,117
you for that.

11928
06:22:16,117 --> 06:22:16,784
And when this issue came before

11929
06:22:16,784 --> 06:22:19,784
council in MARCH to proceed

11930
06:22:20,221 --> 06:22:20,989
forward with several ideas that

11931
06:22:20,989 --> 06:22:21,489
were not yet concrete at that

11932
06:22:21,489 --> 06:22:22,357
moment I voted no.

11933
06:22:22,357 --> 06:22:25,930
I was concerned that the motion

11934
06:22:25,930 --> 06:22:25,793
on the table was not only cut

11935
06:22:25,793 --> 06:22:26,494
out large parts of the program

11936
06:22:26,494 --> 06:22:29,494
without regard to what my

11937
06:22:30,164 --> 06:22:31,320
neighbors had in rs1 seven

11938
06:22:31,320 --> 06:22:34,632
zones but I was also concerned

11939
06:22:35,203 --> 06:22:35,936
that the idea did risk putting

11940
06:22:35,936 --> 06:22:39,536
the city out of compliance with

11941
06:22:39,741 --> 06:22:40,442
our housing element and that we

11942
06:22:40,442 --> 06:22:41,750
this weekend the concerns were

11943
06:22:41,750 --> 06:22:43,750
echoed significantly when

11944
06:22:44,780 --> 06:22:44,879
receive that letter from hcd

11945
06:22:44,879 --> 06:22:45,580
about the legal risks and I

11946
06:22:45,580 --> 06:22:46,247
know there's some dispute over

11947
06:22:46,247 --> 06:22:46,981
whether or not that's a true

11948
06:22:46,981 --> 06:22:49,684
threat or not but I don't think

11949
06:22:49,684 --> 06:22:50,352
they sent us a letter without

11950
06:22:50,352 --> 06:22:51,119
serious reasons And I'm very

11951
06:22:51,119 --> 06:22:53,854
i'm going to be listening to

11952
06:22:53,854 --> 06:22:54,556
what our city attorney tells us

11953
06:22:54,556 --> 06:22:57,556
when that comes forward later

11954
06:22:58,626 --> 06:22:59,293
similar to what the coastal

11955
06:22:59,293 --> 06:22:59,994
Commission Council PRESIDENT

11956
06:22:59,994 --> 06:23:00,729
Brought up coastal commission

11957
06:23:00,729 --> 06:23:03,798
you said there you wait to hear

11958
06:23:03,798 --> 06:23:04,498
what they say back because you

11959
06:23:04,498 --> 06:23:05,166
have to comply with the state

11960
06:23:05,166 --> 06:23:08,166
regulators And so I'll be

11961
06:23:09,237 --> 06:23:09,938
waiting diligently for that

11962
06:23:09,938 --> 06:23:13,538
answer Right now as an elected

11963
06:23:14,108 --> 06:23:14,743
representative it's our jobs to

11964
06:23:14,743 --> 06:23:15,443
represent the needs of our

11965
06:23:15,443 --> 06:23:16,177
neighbors As a public servant

11966
06:23:16,177 --> 06:23:18,547
it's our also responsibility to

11967
06:23:18,547 --> 06:23:19,414
abide by state law and work in

11968
06:23:19,414 --> 06:23:23,140
good faith to meet our state

11969
06:23:23,318 --> 06:23:24,850
requirements.

11970
06:23:24,850 --> 06:23:24,418
I don't want us to lose

11971
06:23:24,418 --> 06:23:24,953
control.

11972
06:23:24,953 --> 06:23:27,953
I don't want to see

11973
06:23:28,255 --> 06:23:28,590
the builders remedy whatsoever

11974
06:23:28,590 --> 06:23:29,456
.

11975
06:23:29,456 --> 06:23:32,260
And so while I did second

11976
06:23:32,260 --> 06:23:32,594
the motion for the four unit

11977
06:23:32,594 --> 06:23:33,395
cap the councilmember

11978
06:23:33,395 --> 06:23:36,798
vulnerable for I am going to be

11979
06:23:36,798 --> 06:23:37,599
watching very closely because I

11980
06:23:37,599 --> 06:23:41,736
do not want us to be risking

11981
06:23:41,736 --> 06:23:42,403
the problems that might come if

11982
06:23:42,403 --> 06:23:45,841
the state tells us it's just

11983
06:23:45,841 --> 06:23:46,541
not feasible as much as I'm

11984
06:23:46,541 --> 06:23:47,242
worried about that though it's

11985
06:23:47,242 --> 06:23:47,943
important to be reasonable and

11986
06:23:47,943 --> 06:23:50,943
open minded to integrating as

11987
06:23:51,246 --> 06:23:51,880
many ideas from the public as

11988
06:23:51,880 --> 06:23:53,880
possible because unchecked

11989
06:23:56,284 --> 06:23:56,985
density has created real risk.

11990
06:23:56,985 --> 06:23:57,686
The projects I've seen as part

11991
06:23:57,686 --> 06:23:58,386
of this program have violated

11992
06:23:58,386 --> 06:24:00,589
the spirit of what the program

11993
06:24:00,589 --> 06:24:01,255
was supposed to be about

11994
06:24:01,255 --> 06:24:04,255
Investors that don't have to

11995
06:24:05,360 --> 06:24:06,940
live with the end result And

11996
06:24:06,940 --> 06:24:06,795
thank you to the District seven

11997
06:24:06,795 --> 06:24:09,195
folks particularly from Linda

11998
06:24:10,498 --> 06:24:11,265
Vista.

11999
06:24:11,265 --> 06:24:12,660
If I could have those three

12000
06:24:12,660 --> 06:24:15,170
ready in my district there are

12001
06:24:15,170 --> 06:24:15,837
several numerous 82 projects

12002
06:24:15,837 --> 06:24:16,504
including Newbold Court and

12003
06:24:16,504 --> 06:24:19,504
Linda Vista and Twain Avenue

12004
06:24:19,874 --> 06:24:20,508
and Allied Gardens that have

12005
06:24:20,508 --> 06:24:21,143
generated a great deal of

12006
06:24:21,143 --> 06:24:23,712
concern And I've gone past

12007
06:24:23,712 --> 06:24:24,479
those locations personally I've

12008
06:24:24,479 --> 06:24:25,180
asked my staff to visit and

12009
06:24:25,180 --> 06:24:25,781
meet the people who live there

12010
06:24:25,781 --> 06:24:28,181
and those neighbors are

12011
06:24:29,184 --> 06:24:29,751
rightfully concerned because

12012
06:24:29,751 --> 06:24:30,418
they care about their

12013
06:24:30,418 --> 06:24:32,818
neighborhoods and they care

12014
06:24:34,155 --> 06:24:34,856
about their neighbors and I

12015
06:24:34,856 --> 06:24:35,523
think it's very, very obvious

12016
06:24:35,523 --> 06:24:38,523
that the people sitting out

12017
06:24:39,427 --> 06:24:40,940
there are open to change but

12018
06:24:40,940 --> 06:24:40,729
wanted to be part of

12019
06:24:40,729 --> 06:24:43,729
the process from the very

12020
06:24:44,466 --> 06:24:45,100
beginning rules that made sense

12021
06:24:45,100 --> 06:24:45,767
not just to protect their

12022
06:24:45,767 --> 06:24:48,503
families but also to protect

12023
06:24:48,503 --> 06:24:49,204
the families of the people who

12024
06:24:49,204 --> 06:24:49,871
were going to move in.

12025
06:24:49,871 --> 06:24:50,538
It's not just the folks who

12026
06:24:50,538 --> 06:24:53,538
already live there that are

12027
06:24:54,242 --> 06:24:54,610
saying this is a risk to me and

12028
06:24:54,610 --> 06:24:55,310
my family.

12029
06:24:55,310 --> 06:24:55,877
It's the people when they come

12030
06:24:55,877 --> 06:24:56,246
in that's going to be

12031
06:24:56,246 --> 06:24:58,246
troubling.

12032
06:24:59,470 --> 06:24:59,747
So these changes that been

12033
06:24:59,747 --> 06:25:00,382
brought forward numerous thank

12034
06:25:00,382 --> 06:25:03,982
you to our city staff for

12035
06:25:04,218 --> 06:25:04,786
putting together many of these

12036
06:25:04,786 --> 06:25:05,487
common sense reforms.

12037
06:25:05,487 --> 06:25:09,870
Now I think the state prevents

12038
06:25:09,524 --> 06:25:10,192
us from creating what I think

12039
06:25:10,192 --> 06:25:11,930
is an ideal program based on

12040
06:25:11,930 --> 06:25:13,662
what we saw in the city letter

12041
06:25:13,662 --> 06:25:14,396
and and other issues there.

12042
06:25:14,396 --> 06:25:17,996
But let's just take a quick

12043
06:25:18,299 --> 06:25:19,100
look at the wins for San Diego

12044
06:25:19,100 --> 06:25:19,568
The real successes We got many

12045
06:25:19,568 --> 06:25:21,568
fire safety setbacks

12046
06:25:23,738 --> 06:25:24,373
prohibiting projects in very

12047
06:25:24,373 --> 06:25:26,373
dangerous zones excluding

12048
06:25:29,411 --> 06:25:30,112
environmentally sensitive lands

12049
06:25:30,112 --> 06:25:30,779
and canyons because Technology

12050
06:25:30,779 --> 06:25:32,881
Canyon and Ruffin Canyon and

12051
06:25:32,881 --> 06:25:33,582
Short Canyon and Sand Rock

12052
06:25:33,582 --> 06:25:34,316
Canyon and Rueda Canyon and

12053
06:25:34,316 --> 06:25:34,750
Shepherd Canyon and L.A. Canyon

12054
06:25:34,750 --> 06:25:35,216
Navajo Canyon.

12055
06:25:35,216 --> 06:25:37,216
Mission Trails.

12056
06:25:38,419 --> 06:25:39,121
Rim you get the picture about

12057
06:25:39,121 --> 06:25:39,421
what District seven is worried

12058
06:25:39,421 --> 06:25:40,220
about.

12059
06:25:40,220 --> 06:25:42,422
That's very important to

12060
06:25:43,257 --> 06:25:43,959
anybody whose district is along

12061
06:25:43,959 --> 06:25:47,620
a watershed which I think is

12062
06:25:47,620 --> 06:25:47,763
practically everybody requiring

12063
06:25:47,763 --> 06:25:48,960
the off street parking outside

12064
06:25:48,960 --> 06:25:48,830
the tpa.

12065
06:25:48,830 --> 06:25:51,230
That's really important because

12066
06:25:52,601 --> 06:25:53,167
it does put in more of a

12067
06:25:53,167 --> 06:25:53,902
requirement somewhere.

12068
06:25:53,902 --> 06:25:57,473
I just simply want to reiterate

12069
06:25:57,473 --> 06:25:58,273
that and Council PRESIDENT

12070
06:25:58,273 --> 06:25:58,874
Pointed this out Four of us

12071
06:25:58,874 --> 06:25:59,608
voted against this year.

12072
06:25:59,608 --> 06:26:01,610
I voted against the idea that

12073
06:26:01,610 --> 06:26:02,311
impracticality was problematic

12074
06:26:02,311 --> 06:26:04,711
on the community enhancement

12075
06:26:06,748 --> 06:26:07,316
fee.

12076
06:26:07,316 --> 06:26:09,716
Did staff receive any

12077
06:26:10,618 --> 06:26:13,618
confirmation from h about that

12078
06:26:15,824 --> 06:26:16,592
Creating legal problems?

12079
06:26:16,592 --> 06:26:17,920
We did not receive confirmation

12080
06:26:17,920 --> 06:26:17,693
from each city in

12081
06:26:17,693 --> 06:26:20,930
the affirmative but in

12082
06:26:20,762 --> 06:26:21,496
the correspondence and

12083
06:26:21,496 --> 06:26:22,331
discussions that we have had we

12084
06:26:22,331 --> 06:26:25,834
have not received a notice from

12085
06:26:25,834 --> 06:26:26,535
the agency of

12086
06:26:26,535 --> 06:26:27,169
the identification of any

12087
06:26:27,169 --> 06:26:29,569
issues with the community

12088
06:26:31,273 --> 06:26:33,673
enhancement fee Understood I

12089
06:26:36,177 --> 06:26:36,879
think from an from an

12090
06:26:36,879 --> 06:26:37,579
affirmatively furthering fair

12091
06:26:37,579 --> 06:26:39,979
housing component I mentioned

12092
06:26:41,350 --> 06:26:42,510
this at committee that making

12093
06:26:42,510 --> 06:26:45,510
sure we still charged that

12094
06:26:45,521 --> 06:26:46,221
community enhancement fee in

12095
06:26:46,221 --> 06:26:49,221
moderate zones is an important

12096
06:26:50,759 --> 06:26:51,727
component of that.

12097
06:26:51,727 --> 06:26:52,461
Part of it is to try to

12098
06:26:52,461 --> 06:26:55,461
incentivize building the it use

12099
06:26:55,530 --> 06:26:56,364
in areas with more resources.

12100
06:26:56,364 --> 06:26:56,999
I know that we're on a

12101
06:26:56,999 --> 06:26:57,298
substitute motion at this

12102
06:26:57,298 --> 06:26:59,298
point.

12103
06:27:00,135 --> 06:27:01,300
I do think it's important that

12104
06:27:01,300 --> 06:27:04,603
we put that back on council

12105
06:27:05,400 --> 06:27:05,841
PRESIDENT In offering a

12106
06:27:05,841 --> 06:27:08,841
friendly amendment to add that

12107
06:27:10,279 --> 06:27:10,946
requirement back in now that

12108
06:27:10,946 --> 06:27:11,680
this is a motion that is

12109
06:27:11,680 --> 06:27:14,800
carried by Councilmember Yvonne

12110
06:27:15,718 --> 06:27:16,384
Wolpert, it's not Is she in

12111
06:27:16,384 --> 06:27:17,180
charge of accepting friendly

12112
06:27:17,180 --> 06:27:17,353
amendments at this moment?

12113
06:27:17,353 --> 06:27:19,353
>> Yes.

12114
06:27:20,122 --> 06:27:21,256
Okay.

12115
06:27:21,256 --> 06:27:25,894
I would like to see us not just

12116
06:27:25,894 --> 06:27:28,894
waive right now we're waiving

12117
06:27:29,364 --> 06:27:29,965
the ecf and the Community

12118
06:27:29,965 --> 06:27:32,365
Enhancement cef in high

12119
06:27:34,236 --> 06:27:34,536
resource and very high resource

12120
06:27:34,536 --> 06:27:35,404
.

12121
06:27:35,404 --> 06:27:39,400
>> I think we should also not

12122
06:27:39,641 --> 06:27:40,342
waive it in moderate We should

12123
06:27:40,342 --> 06:27:41,430
require in moderate that will

12124
06:27:41,430 --> 06:27:41,710
ensure that places like Linda

12125
06:27:41,710 --> 06:27:45,310
Vista don't get left out if

12126
06:27:45,314 --> 06:27:45,614
there's any use being built

12127
06:27:45,614 --> 06:27:46,449
there.

12128
06:27:46,449 --> 06:27:49,852
And so I would ask that we make

12129
06:27:49,852 --> 06:27:50,553
that that's I don't have it in

12130
06:27:50,553 --> 06:27:51,253
writing but it's a very, very

12131
06:27:51,253 --> 06:27:54,253
literal addition of one word.

12132
06:27:55,291 --> 06:27:55,591
I think Yeah, I would accept

12133
06:27:55,591 --> 06:27:57,591
that.

12134
06:27:59,161 --> 06:27:59,628
Okay.

12135
06:27:59,628 --> 06:28:00,329
>> Thank you.

12136
06:28:00,329 --> 06:28:01,197
City Attorney Is that clear

12137
06:28:01,197 --> 06:28:04,600
what I was suggesting there Is

12138
06:28:04,600 --> 06:28:05,133
it in the fee resolution or is

12139
06:28:05,133 --> 06:28:05,968
it in the ordinance?

12140
06:28:05,968 --> 06:28:08,968
Sorry I believe it's in

12141
06:28:09,104 --> 06:28:09,405
the ordinance.

12142
06:28:09,405 --> 06:28:11,405
Okay.

12143
06:28:14,743 --> 06:28:15,444
For clarification I think this

12144
06:28:15,444 --> 06:28:18,444
only applies to the amendment

12145
06:28:18,681 --> 06:28:19,448
that was made at lnh to waive

12146
06:28:19,448 --> 06:28:23,480
the fee for low income units

12147
06:28:24,188 --> 06:28:24,854
because it's not there's no fee

12148
06:28:24,854 --> 06:28:27,523
waiver for high and highest

12149
06:28:27,523 --> 06:28:28,190
resource areas in general that

12150
06:28:28,190 --> 06:28:28,857
was the incentive that was

12151
06:28:28,857 --> 06:28:32,457
the incentive to try to make

12152
06:28:32,795 --> 06:28:33,496
sure that folks would build

12153
06:28:33,496 --> 06:28:33,796
this in higher resource areas.

12154
06:28:33,796 --> 06:28:35,796
Right?

12155
06:28:38,367 --> 06:28:39,340
Only if using the low income

12156
06:28:39,340 --> 06:28:39,502
all that stuff, correct?

12157
06:28:39,502 --> 06:28:41,502
That's correct.

12158
06:28:41,536 --> 06:28:42,238
So the direction from land use

12159
06:28:42,238 --> 06:28:45,238
and Housing Committee was to

12160
06:28:47,430 --> 06:28:47,643
exempt payment of the fee for

12161
06:28:47,643 --> 06:28:49,643
affordable 80 use deed

12162
06:28:51,814 --> 06:28:52,481
restricted at low or very low

12163
06:28:52,481 --> 06:28:52,949
in moderate high or highest

12164
06:28:52,949 --> 06:28:54,949
resource areas.

12165
06:28:57,520 --> 06:28:58,220
Right So and you're proposal as

12166
06:28:58,220 --> 06:28:58,887
I understand it is this strike

12167
06:28:58,887 --> 06:29:01,287
moderate strike Moderate Yes

12168
06:29:02,492 --> 06:29:03,259
please And I believe that's

12169
06:29:03,259 --> 06:29:06,859
also in the ordinance So we

12170
06:29:07,630 --> 06:29:10,630
will probably need to take

12171
06:29:12,434 --> 06:29:13,102
another quick recess to draft

12172
06:29:13,102 --> 06:29:13,369
that language and distribute

12173
06:29:13,369 --> 06:29:13,669
it.

12174
06:29:13,669 --> 06:29:14,503
Okay.

12175
06:29:14,503 --> 06:29:16,973
I will conclude my comments so

12176
06:29:16,973 --> 06:29:20,573
that we can just get through

12177
06:29:21,477 --> 06:29:21,811
this a little bit more quickly

12178
06:29:21,811 --> 06:29:23,811
.

12179
06:29:27,250 --> 06:29:27,983
>> I want to just touch base on

12180
06:29:27,983 --> 06:29:28,317
the separate sale of ada use if

12181
06:29:28,317 --> 06:29:28,984
I could.

12182
06:29:28,984 --> 06:29:31,984
>> You're going to need a

12183
06:29:32,188 --> 06:29:33,540
little bit more time.

12184
06:29:33,540 --> 06:29:33,723
>> Is there anyone who can give

12185
06:29:33,723 --> 06:29:34,257
me two more minutes please?

12186
06:29:34,257 --> 06:29:37,257
Do I have any time?

12187
06:29:37,259 --> 06:29:37,960
No thank you.

12188
06:29:37,960 --> 06:29:38,628
>> Councilmember Weber and I

12189
06:29:38,628 --> 06:29:40,628
expressed hesitation around

12190
06:29:42,799 --> 06:29:43,498
the separate sale of 80 use and

12191
06:29:43,498 --> 06:29:46,903
I'm there intended to be first

12192
06:29:46,903 --> 06:29:47,670
time home buying opportunities

12193
06:29:47,670 --> 06:29:48,438
that don't exist in our market.

12194
06:29:48,438 --> 06:29:50,907
I'm glad to see the 30 day

12195
06:29:50,907 --> 06:29:51,607
priority for home owner

12196
06:29:51,607 --> 06:29:52,274
occupant to ensure that we're

12197
06:29:52,274 --> 06:29:52,942
supporting families, seniors

12198
06:29:52,942 --> 06:29:56,179
and young people who want to

12199
06:29:56,179 --> 06:29:56,879
enter the housing market and

12200
06:29:56,879 --> 06:29:57,547
not inadvertently create more

12201
06:29:57,547 --> 06:29:58,380
opportunities for investors.

12202
06:29:58,380 --> 06:30:01,584
But I have to say that I have

12203
06:30:01,584 --> 06:30:02,318
significant doubts that

12204
06:30:02,318 --> 06:30:05,288
divisible sellable use will end

12205
06:30:05,288 --> 06:30:05,989
up as lower priced owner

12206
06:30:05,989 --> 06:30:06,556
occupied properties And here's

12207
06:30:06,556 --> 06:30:08,956
why we aren't changing

12208
06:30:10,827 --> 06:30:11,460
the market Reality that we see

12209
06:30:11,460 --> 06:30:12,128
right now already which is

12210
06:30:12,128 --> 06:30:15,128
investors with more cash out

12211
06:30:15,897 --> 06:30:16,366
compete Ordinary people who

12212
06:30:16,366 --> 06:30:17,660
have less cash.

12213
06:30:17,660 --> 06:30:20,200
So I'm worried about this too.

12214
06:30:20,200 --> 06:30:20,436
Today 82 developers often play

12215
06:30:20,436 --> 06:30:21,103
the long game.

12216
06:30:21,103 --> 06:30:23,640
They wait 15 years to recoup

12217
06:30:23,640 --> 06:30:24,406
costs through rent if they

12218
06:30:24,406 --> 06:30:24,807
maintain it and rent it out

12219
06:30:24,807 --> 06:30:25,675
themselves.

12220
06:30:25,675 --> 06:30:29,178
But if if they can sell units

12221
06:30:29,178 --> 06:30:29,812
outright that profit comes

12222
06:30:29,812 --> 06:30:30,480
faster and easier and that

12223
06:30:30,480 --> 06:30:33,383
shift could drive up land

12224
06:30:33,383 --> 06:30:33,750
prices and shut families out

12225
06:30:33,750 --> 06:30:34,484
right now.

12226
06:30:34,484 --> 06:30:37,987
So if they are sellable they

12227
06:30:37,987 --> 06:30:38,688
could investors could recover

12228
06:30:38,688 --> 06:30:39,880
their profits far quicker with

12229
06:30:39,880 --> 06:30:39,789
less effort.

12230
06:30:39,789 --> 06:30:42,789
Doesn't that cause land prices

12231
06:30:43,526 --> 06:30:44,293
to spike, not settle?

12232
06:30:44,293 --> 06:30:45,161
So I'm not convinced about this

12233
06:30:45,161 --> 06:30:48,564
idea And though it's in this

12234
06:30:48,564 --> 06:30:49,332
package with a lot of good

12235
06:30:49,332 --> 06:30:50,320
ideas, I just want to state on

12236
06:30:50,320 --> 06:30:50,633
the record I'm not in support

12237
06:30:50,633 --> 06:30:53,330
of that particular idea.

12238
06:30:53,536 --> 06:30:54,370
I think it will backfire.

12239
06:30:54,370 --> 06:30:57,370
The last point here what

12240
06:30:57,607 --> 06:30:58,374
the 40s I have whatever rules

12241
06:30:58,374 --> 06:31:02,545
that are put in place today we

12242
06:31:02,545 --> 06:31:02,912
have to enforce them very

12243
06:31:02,912 --> 06:31:03,713
strictly.

12244
06:31:03,713 --> 06:31:04,247
When I learned that 80 use were

12245
06:31:04,247 --> 06:31:06,247
being built without

12246
06:31:07,250 --> 06:31:08,170
the required sidewalks leading

12247
06:31:08,170 --> 06:31:08,584
all the way to them, I couldn't

12248
06:31:08,584 --> 06:31:09,850
think of anything more

12249
06:31:09,850 --> 06:31:09,752
upsetting because

12250
06:31:09,752 --> 06:31:12,152
the neighborhood is deprived

12251
06:31:12,756 --> 06:31:13,456
and soon the new residents

12252
06:31:13,456 --> 06:31:14,157
would be deprived of something

12253
06:31:14,157 --> 06:31:14,523
so basic that the city says is

12254
06:31:14,523 --> 06:31:16,523
necessary.

12255
06:31:17,627 --> 06:31:18,600
So we should not let that

12256
06:31:18,600 --> 06:31:18,762
happen again.

12257
06:31:18,762 --> 06:31:21,797
And last thing to the crowd I

12258
06:31:21,797 --> 06:31:22,498
don't want anyone here to think

12259
06:31:22,498 --> 06:31:26,980
I don't think us passing this

12260
06:31:26,769 --> 06:31:27,536
is doing you a favor.

12261
06:31:27,536 --> 06:31:28,710
>> We should have done this

12262
06:31:28,710 --> 06:31:28,438
from the beginning.

12263
06:31:28,438 --> 06:31:30,438
Thank you.

12264
06:31:32,142 --> 06:31:32,842
And all right.

12265
06:31:32,842 --> 06:31:33,510
Thank you, Councilmember Campo

12266
06:31:33,510 --> 06:31:36,510
while they're still Are you

12267
06:31:36,680 --> 06:31:38,680
still working?

12268
06:31:42,152 --> 06:31:42,919
>> Before I go to council

12269
06:31:42,919 --> 06:31:45,319
member Whitburn, I have

12270
06:31:46,156 --> 06:31:46,456
the motion to take it down to

12271
06:31:46,456 --> 06:31:47,156
four.

12272
06:31:47,156 --> 06:31:47,857
Are there any deed restricted

12273
06:31:47,857 --> 06:31:49,960
units that will actually come

12274
06:31:49,960 --> 06:31:52,960
out of this any more?

12275
06:31:55,432 --> 06:31:56,980
So the way that the language is

12276
06:31:56,980 --> 06:31:58,968
written is that there's one

12277
06:31:58,968 --> 06:31:59,735
additional market rate to you

12278
06:31:59,735 --> 06:32:02,735
per affordable 80 You we would

12279
06:32:04,740 --> 06:32:04,674
interpret that to mean that if

12280
06:32:04,674 --> 06:32:07,740
you're adding more than

12281
06:32:09,212 --> 06:32:09,913
the state required that that

12282
06:32:09,913 --> 06:32:12,615
one would be deed restricted.

12283
06:32:12,615 --> 06:32:13,316
Okay so out of the four one

12284
06:32:13,316 --> 06:32:16,316
would still be deed restricted

12285
06:32:17,754 --> 06:32:18,454
that would be the effect of

12286
06:32:18,454 --> 06:32:18,988
the program With the amendment

12287
06:32:18,988 --> 06:32:19,455
With the amendment.

12288
06:32:19,455 --> 06:32:21,455
>> Okay, great.

12289
06:32:22,359 --> 06:32:23,580
Thank you for that.

12290
06:32:23,580 --> 06:32:23,326
Councilmember Whitburn Thank

12291
06:32:23,326 --> 06:32:24,270
you.

12292
06:32:24,270 --> 06:32:27,270
Council PRESIDENT And you sort

12293
06:32:27,630 --> 06:32:28,198
of touched on the question that

12294
06:32:28,198 --> 06:32:29,650
I was going to ask.

12295
06:32:29,650 --> 06:32:31,634
I'll I guess ask for a little

12296
06:32:31,634 --> 06:32:32,302
bit more on that because it's

12297
06:32:32,302 --> 06:32:35,302
one of the consistent themes

12298
06:32:36,573 --> 06:32:37,207
that we've heard is a lot of

12299
06:32:37,207 --> 06:32:40,207
interest in the truly deed

12300
06:32:41,711 --> 06:32:42,112
restricted rent kept affordable

12301
06:32:42,112 --> 06:32:42,879
to use.

12302
06:32:42,879 --> 06:32:45,982
I think you mentioned that over

12303
06:32:45,982 --> 06:32:46,850
the last three years we've seen

12304
06:32:46,850 --> 06:32:47,583
something like 90 or 100 a year

12305
06:32:47,583 --> 06:32:48,284
is I am I remember what you

12306
06:32:48,284 --> 06:32:51,870
said there correctly How many

12307
06:32:51,870 --> 06:32:51,388
have we done in the last few

12308
06:32:51,388 --> 06:32:52,880
years?

12309
06:32:52,880 --> 06:32:52,622
We have permanent over 300 in

12310
06:32:52,622 --> 06:32:55,220
the last four years.

12311
06:32:55,250 --> 06:32:57,250
That's 2021 through 2024.

12312
06:33:00,763 --> 06:33:01,131
>> Okay, 92.

12313
06:33:01,131 --> 06:33:03,131
Thank you.

12314
06:33:05,368 --> 06:33:05,769
All right, good.

12315
06:33:05,769 --> 06:33:06,535
It's late.

12316
06:33:06,535 --> 06:33:07,537
My bath wasn't quite that fast.

12317
06:33:07,537 --> 06:33:09,373
Okay, so we we did about 92 a

12318
06:33:09,373 --> 06:33:10,730
year so if we go with

12319
06:33:10,730 --> 06:33:13,673
the motion that's on the floor

12320
06:33:14,110 --> 06:33:14,811
which is a cap of four across

12321
06:33:14,811 --> 06:33:17,811
the board, what would be

12322
06:33:19,149 --> 06:33:19,815
the impact on the production of

12323
06:33:19,815 --> 06:33:22,215
deed restricted rent capped

12324
06:33:23,553 --> 06:33:24,254
affordable to use The answer to

12325
06:33:24,254 --> 06:33:27,254
that is a little complicated.

12326
06:33:28,492 --> 06:33:29,192
We don't know the data that

12327
06:33:29,192 --> 06:33:29,926
we've shared with you is data

12328
06:33:29,926 --> 06:33:33,363
that's based off of the program

12329
06:33:33,363 --> 06:33:34,310
that's been effect in effect

12330
06:33:34,310 --> 06:33:36,310
with additional amendments.

12331
06:33:37,434 --> 06:33:38,201
We don't know the way that we

12332
06:33:38,201 --> 06:33:38,869
would know is that we would

12333
06:33:38,869 --> 06:33:39,535
monitor the program and that

12334
06:33:39,535 --> 06:33:41,935
information would be shared

12335
06:33:43,730 --> 06:33:43,739
publicly through what we call

12336
06:33:43,739 --> 06:33:44,740
our annual report on homes.

12337
06:33:44,740 --> 06:33:44,440
>> Okay.

12338
06:33:44,440 --> 06:33:44,808
Thank you.

12339
06:33:44,808 --> 06:33:45,174
Thank you.

12340
06:33:45,174 --> 06:33:47,174
Thank you.

12341
06:33:47,711 --> 06:33:48,412
Council PRESIDENT.

12342
06:33:48,412 --> 06:33:51,412
Thank you for that question.

12343
06:33:52,549 --> 06:33:53,250
Council member Whitburn

12344
06:33:53,250 --> 06:33:53,817
Councilmember Moreno Thank you

12345
06:33:53,817 --> 06:33:56,217
and thank you for

12346
06:33:58,188 --> 06:33:58,989
the presentation and thank you

12347
06:33:58,989 --> 06:34:03,126
to staff for your hard work on

12348
06:34:03,126 --> 06:34:03,793
this item and also thank you to

12349
06:34:03,793 --> 06:34:04,394
the public that came out to

12350
06:34:04,394 --> 06:34:06,794
express your opinions on

12351
06:34:07,998 --> 06:34:08,632
the matter before us today.

12352
06:34:08,632 --> 06:34:11,320
I've long expressed strong

12353
06:34:12,836 --> 06:34:13,536
support for finding ways to

12354
06:34:13,536 --> 06:34:14,271
build more housing throughout

12355
06:34:14,271 --> 06:34:17,139
the city that is accessible and

12356
06:34:17,139 --> 06:34:17,841
affordable to all San Diegans.

12357
06:34:17,841 --> 06:34:18,709
Not everybody could afford to

12358
06:34:18,709 --> 06:34:22,309
buy a house or were fortunate

12359
06:34:22,679 --> 06:34:26,879
enough to buy one in the 1980s

12360
06:34:27,184 --> 06:34:27,884
Rental rate rental rates remain

12361
06:34:27,884 --> 06:34:28,652
very high which put many San

12362
06:34:28,652 --> 06:34:32,252
Diegans in a tough spot where

12363
06:34:32,356 --> 06:34:33,123
they're focused they're forced

12364
06:34:33,123 --> 06:34:37,930
to pay high rent for homes that

12365
06:34:37,930 --> 06:34:37,728
might not fit the need

12366
06:34:37,728 --> 06:34:38,729
the needs of their family.

12367
06:34:38,729 --> 06:34:41,965
This is why since I was elected

12368
06:34:41,965 --> 06:34:42,666
in 2018 I've looked at every

12369
06:34:42,666 --> 06:34:45,666
avenue possible to build more

12370
06:34:46,903 --> 06:34:47,604
homes across the city because

12371
06:34:47,604 --> 06:34:51,804
it is the only way we're going

12372
06:34:51,841 --> 06:34:52,609
to address our housing crisis.

12373
06:34:52,609 --> 06:34:53,310
We spent a lot of time

12374
06:34:53,310 --> 06:34:55,310
developing 80 new regulations

12375
06:34:56,779 --> 06:34:57,648
in the Housing Legisla ation

12376
06:34:57,648 --> 06:35:00,648
Code Update in 2020 the Housing

12377
06:35:01,510 --> 06:35:03,451
Action package in 2021 and 2022

12378
06:35:05,889 --> 06:35:06,589
as well as other policies meant

12379
06:35:06,589 --> 06:35:08,989
to generally increase housing

12380
06:35:10,561 --> 06:35:11,128
opportunities for San Diegans

12381
06:35:11,128 --> 06:35:11,795
such as multiple land

12382
06:35:11,795 --> 06:35:14,195
development code updates and

12383
06:35:15,698 --> 06:35:16,166
affordable housing preservation

12384
06:35:16,166 --> 06:35:16,867
ordinance.

12385
06:35:16,867 --> 06:35:19,867
These have all helped increase

12386
06:35:21,380 --> 06:35:23,438
housing supply in 2021 over

12387
06:35:24,541 --> 06:35:26,541
5000 since 2021 over 5780 use

12388
06:35:29,279 --> 06:35:29,713
have been built that families

12389
06:35:29,713 --> 06:35:31,713
live in today.

12390
06:35:33,884 --> 06:35:34,585
That's incredibly meaningful to

12391
06:35:34,585 --> 06:35:35,252
the people who live in those

12392
06:35:35,252 --> 06:35:36,120
homes now And I'm glad that

12393
06:35:36,120 --> 06:35:38,322
they have been built But it's

12394
06:35:38,322 --> 06:35:39,550
not enough.

12395
06:35:39,550 --> 06:35:39,623
We still need more housing for

12396
06:35:39,623 --> 06:35:41,623
families particularly

12397
06:35:43,426 --> 06:35:43,894
affordable housing and middle

12398
06:35:43,894 --> 06:35:44,628
income housing.

12399
06:35:44,628 --> 06:35:47,628
Some of the proposed amendments

12400
06:35:48,732 --> 06:35:49,400
have been called into question

12401
06:35:49,400 --> 06:35:53,000
In the JUNE 13th letter from

12402
06:35:53,237 --> 06:35:53,971
the State Department of Housing

12403
06:35:53,971 --> 06:35:54,638
and Community Development And I

12404
06:35:54,638 --> 06:35:54,972
do agree with some of these

12405
06:35:54,972 --> 06:35:56,972
points.

12406
06:35:57,741 --> 06:35:58,442
I was glad to see some

12407
06:35:58,442 --> 06:36:01,442
revisions in response to these

12408
06:36:02,713 --> 06:36:03,413
letter especially adjusting

12409
06:36:03,413 --> 06:36:07,130
the amendment to allow the age

12410
06:36:07,818 --> 06:36:08,519
edu home density bonus program

12411
06:36:08,519 --> 06:36:12,220
to apply in high and highest

12412
06:36:12,220 --> 06:36:12,756
resource areas within the zones

12413
06:36:12,756 --> 06:36:13,490
being removed from the program.

12414
06:36:13,490 --> 06:36:17,900
I was also glad to see

12415
06:36:17,161 --> 06:36:17,795
the changes clarifying that

12416
06:36:17,795 --> 06:36:20,195
replacement parking is not

12417
06:36:22,266 --> 06:36:22,933
required in any addition in any

12418
06:36:22,933 --> 06:36:23,601
situation where an uncovered

12419
06:36:23,601 --> 06:36:26,601
parking space is removed to

12420
06:36:26,770 --> 06:36:27,638
build an adu However, I do

12421
06:36:27,638 --> 06:36:31,341
agree on the point by age cd

12422
06:36:31,341 --> 06:36:32,750
that the Home Density Bonus

12423
06:36:32,750 --> 06:36:35,675
program is an important part of

12424
06:36:36,280 --> 06:36:36,913
our housing element and that

12425
06:36:36,913 --> 06:36:40,351
the city relied in part on

12426
06:36:40,351 --> 06:36:41,840
the program to satisfy the four

12427
06:36:41,840 --> 06:36:41,718
admittedly further fair housing

12428
06:36:41,718 --> 06:36:44,118
requirement of the housing

12429
06:36:45,423 --> 06:36:46,123
element and that the adu bonus

12430
06:36:46,123 --> 06:36:49,123
program is a meaningful action

12431
06:36:50,261 --> 06:36:50,727
to address multiple fair

12432
06:36:50,727 --> 06:36:51,395
housing issues.

12433
06:36:51,395 --> 06:36:53,795
I was particularly concerned

12434
06:36:55,700 --> 06:36:56,400
with the section titled General

12435
06:36:56,400 --> 06:36:59,400
affo Obligation in the letter

12436
06:37:00,704 --> 06:37:01,272
that states the changes raised

12437
06:37:01,272 --> 06:37:03,272
concern about whether

12438
06:37:04,442 --> 06:37:05,109
the amended provisions are

12439
06:37:05,109 --> 06:37:05,743
materially inconsistent with

12440
06:37:05,743 --> 06:37:08,143
the city's obligation to

12441
06:37:10,810 --> 06:37:10,414
affirmatively furthering fair

12442
06:37:10,414 --> 06:37:11,115
housing.

12443
06:37:11,115 --> 06:37:14,715
It's a valid point because at

12444
06:37:14,818 --> 06:37:15,486
the end of the day these

12445
06:37:15,486 --> 06:37:16,153
amendments, these amendments

12446
06:37:16,153 --> 06:37:19,423
make it harder to build more

12447
06:37:19,423 --> 06:37:20,910
adu homes in many areas of San

12448
06:37:20,910 --> 06:37:23,910
Diego to address our housing

12449
06:37:24,362 --> 06:37:25,129
crises and to make sure there

12450
06:37:25,129 --> 06:37:26,130
are homes to live in For all

12451
06:37:26,130 --> 06:37:29,601
San Diegans it is my job to

12452
06:37:29,601 --> 06:37:29,933
make it easier to build more

12453
06:37:29,933 --> 06:37:30,801
housing.

12454
06:37:30,801 --> 06:37:34,401
I do not want to reduce

12455
06:37:34,572 --> 06:37:35,239
the tools at our disposal that

12456
06:37:35,239 --> 06:37:38,239
help us build more housing.

12457
06:37:39,476 --> 06:37:40,177
The adu density bonus program

12458
06:37:40,177 --> 06:37:43,581
is one tool that created more

12459
06:37:43,581 --> 06:37:44,282
housing and these changes make

12460
06:37:44,282 --> 06:37:44,949
it less effective and limits

12461
06:37:44,949 --> 06:37:47,349
our ability to affirmatively

12462
06:37:48,919 --> 06:37:49,253
affirmatively further fair

12463
06:37:49,253 --> 06:37:49,987
housing.

12464
06:37:49,987 --> 06:37:53,587
The Staff report and the letter

12465
06:37:54,525 --> 06:37:55,226
from hcd mentioned that since

12466
06:37:55,226 --> 06:37:58,826
the city adopted the adu home

12467
06:37:59,960 --> 06:37:59,864
density bonus program it's

12468
06:37:59,864 --> 06:38:02,264
resulted in 875 adus permitted

12469
06:38:04,334 --> 06:38:05,690
with 365 of those having

12470
06:38:05,690 --> 06:38:07,690
affordability restrictions That

12471
06:38:09,540 --> 06:38:13,140
is significant and I don't want

12472
06:38:14,178 --> 06:38:14,846
to lose that momentum according

12473
06:38:14,846 --> 06:38:15,546
to the Planning Department's

12474
06:38:15,546 --> 06:38:18,546
2024 report on homes the city

12475
06:38:19,816 --> 06:38:22,216
has permitted 23.8% of homes

12476
06:38:23,488 --> 06:38:25,888
allocated through the regional

12477
06:38:27,759 --> 06:38:28,359
housing needs assessment

12478
06:38:28,359 --> 06:38:30,359
between 2020 and 2023 of

12479
06:38:32,696 --> 06:38:33,664
the 25,692 new homes permitted

12480
06:38:33,664 --> 06:38:36,640
between 2020 and 2023 the city

12481
06:38:37,268 --> 06:38:39,668
has permitted 4879 low income

12482
06:38:42,240 --> 06:38:44,640
and moderate income homes.

12483
06:38:44,975 --> 06:38:45,643
Meanwhile there have been

12484
06:38:45,643 --> 06:38:47,643
20,814 above moderate income

12485
06:38:50,681 --> 06:38:51,282
homes built and I will need my

12486
06:38:51,282 --> 06:38:51,950
extra 33 minutes please.

12487
06:38:51,950 --> 06:38:54,350
I think everybody can

12488
06:38:55,553 --> 06:38:56,253
acknowledge that the city needs

12489
06:38:56,253 --> 06:38:56,954
more homes that are affordable

12490
06:38:56,954 --> 06:38:59,858
to everyday working people and

12491
06:38:59,858 --> 06:39:00,257
less luxury homes built for

12492
06:39:00,257 --> 06:39:02,257
the wealthy.

12493
06:39:04,861 --> 06:39:07,861
80 Use help fill that gap

12494
06:39:08,566 --> 06:39:09,333
The city would will need to

12495
06:39:09,333 --> 06:39:11,733
permit 82,344 more homes to

12496
06:39:13,972 --> 06:39:14,272
meet the rent allocation by

12497
06:39:14,272 --> 06:39:14,973
2029.

12498
06:39:14,973 --> 06:39:17,973
If these amendments are passed

12499
06:39:18,843 --> 06:39:19,711
we will likely fall further

12500
06:39:19,711 --> 06:39:23,214
behind in our goals to reach

12501
06:39:23,214 --> 06:39:24,480
those numbers.

12502
06:39:24,480 --> 06:39:24,781
>> Now when my three year old

12503
06:39:24,781 --> 06:39:28,119
daughter is an adult I want her

12504
06:39:28,119 --> 06:39:28,920
and everyone in her generation

12505
06:39:28,920 --> 06:39:29,353
to have the opportunity to live

12506
06:39:29,353 --> 06:39:31,353
in San Diego.

12507
06:39:33,657 --> 06:39:34,425
That means we need to do all we

12508
06:39:34,425 --> 06:39:37,425
can now to increase housing

12509
06:39:38,796 --> 06:39:39,564
supply If we move backwards

12510
06:39:39,564 --> 06:39:43,164
today in allowing more homes to

12511
06:39:43,434 --> 06:39:44,402
be built.

12512
06:39:44,402 --> 06:39:47,505
I very much fear that in 20 or

12513
06:39:47,505 --> 06:39:48,406
30 years our housing crisis

12514
06:39:48,406 --> 06:39:52,606
will be even worse than it is

12515
06:39:52,911 --> 06:39:53,711
today And people who were born

12516
06:39:53,711 --> 06:39:54,412
and raised here in San Diego

12517
06:39:54,412 --> 06:39:55,280
will have to leave in order to

12518
06:39:55,280 --> 06:39:58,160
live in a home they could

12519
06:39:58,160 --> 06:39:58,883
afford.

12520
06:39:58,883 --> 06:39:59,484
>> Ultimately my goal is to

12521
06:39:59,484 --> 06:40:01,484
encourage building more

12522
06:40:03,454 --> 06:40:04,155
affordable housing while

12523
06:40:04,155 --> 06:40:07,155
preventing abuse of the city's

12524
06:40:08,493 --> 06:40:09,327
optional adu density program.

12525
06:40:09,327 --> 06:40:12,327
These changes go far beyond

12526
06:40:13,665 --> 06:40:16,650
addressing these bad actors.

12527
06:40:17,535 --> 06:40:18,103
Finally in Cdw's discussion of

12528
06:40:18,103 --> 06:40:18,703
item 14 which removes

12529
06:40:18,703 --> 06:40:21,103
the program from various

12530
06:40:22,140 --> 06:40:24,540
residential zones, they say

12531
06:40:26,744 --> 06:40:27,445
that the amendment to

12532
06:40:27,445 --> 06:40:29,845
eligibility criteria appear to

12533
06:40:32,116 --> 06:40:32,751
go much further than addressing

12534
06:40:32,751 --> 06:40:35,151
those concerns by removing

12535
06:40:36,254 --> 06:40:36,888
eligibility from 20% of

12536
06:40:36,888 --> 06:40:39,888
the area where fewer units

12537
06:40:41,293 --> 06:40:41,993
would be allowed in the first

12538
06:40:41,993 --> 06:40:44,993
place and by imposing prohibit

12539
06:40:46,231 --> 06:40:46,932
prohibitive restrictions on

12540
06:40:46,932 --> 06:40:47,232
the remainder of all eligible

12541
06:40:47,232 --> 06:40:49,232
sites.

12542
06:40:50,701 --> 06:40:51,403
>> I very much agree with that

12543
06:40:51,403 --> 06:40:52,170
statement and as such I will

12544
06:40:52,170 --> 06:40:55,770
not be voting in favor of

12545
06:40:55,873 --> 06:40:56,340
the motion before us today.

12546
06:40:56,340 --> 06:40:57,800
>> Thank you.

12547
06:40:57,800 --> 06:40:57,375
That concludes my comments.

12548
06:40:57,375 --> 06:40:57,742
All right.

12549
06:40:57,742 --> 06:40:59,742
Thank you.

12550
06:41:00,979 --> 06:41:01,646
Council member Moreno.

12551
06:41:01,646 --> 06:41:02,447
Are we still working on

12552
06:41:02,447 --> 06:41:05,550
the language or do we have

12553
06:41:05,550 --> 06:41:06,219
something we can put up on

12554
06:41:06,219 --> 06:41:09,819
the screen that it was sent?

12555
06:41:10,200 --> 06:41:10,821
Okay.

12556
06:41:10,821 --> 06:41:11,523
>> If the city attorney could

12557
06:41:11,523 --> 06:41:14,523
clarify what the changes would

12558
06:41:15,259 --> 06:41:15,760
be for the Councilmember and

12559
06:41:15,760 --> 06:41:18,160
see if he accepts.

12560
06:41:20,970 --> 06:41:20,865
>> Absolutely within

12561
06:41:20,865 --> 06:41:24,465
the ordinance it would be a

12562
06:41:24,769 --> 06:41:26,769
change to section 141.0302

12563
06:41:28,707 --> 06:41:29,307
subsection d subsection nine be

12564
06:41:29,307 --> 06:41:31,707
to strike out moderate.

12565
06:41:33,177 --> 06:41:33,912
In addition, in the fee

12566
06:41:33,912 --> 06:41:36,912
resolution it would also strike

12567
06:41:38,160 --> 06:41:38,717
out moderate to recital j and

12568
06:41:38,717 --> 06:41:41,717
then action item number three

12569
06:41:42,190 --> 06:41:45,619
That sounds correct to me So

12570
06:41:47,292 --> 06:41:47,993
it's nine b Yes so it'll say

12571
06:41:47,993 --> 06:41:48,659
the premises is located in an

12572
06:41:48,659 --> 06:41:51,329
area identified as a high or

12573
06:41:51,329 --> 06:41:51,997
very high moderate district.

12574
06:41:51,997 --> 06:41:52,764
>> Yes, very good.

12575
06:41:52,764 --> 06:41:56,364
That's what I was looking for.

12576
06:41:56,802 --> 06:41:59,202
Thank you so much.

12577
06:42:02,700 --> 06:42:02,407
They're going to put that up on

12578
06:42:02,407 --> 06:42:04,407
the screen.

12579
06:42:05,510 --> 06:42:06,144
So that only applies to income

12580
06:42:06,144 --> 06:42:06,444
restricted units in those

12581
06:42:06,444 --> 06:42:08,444
areas.

12582
06:42:11,216 --> 06:42:11,583
Yes.

12583
06:42:11,583 --> 06:42:11,983
Okay.

12584
06:42:11,983 --> 06:42:12,684
Not well.

12585
06:42:12,684 --> 06:42:15,840
So just for clarification,

12586
06:42:15,320 --> 06:42:15,787
income restricted at the low or

12587
06:42:15,787 --> 06:42:16,121
very low levels.

12588
06:42:16,121 --> 06:42:16,521
>> Low.

12589
06:42:16,521 --> 06:42:18,521
Very low.

12590
06:42:20,559 --> 06:42:22,559
Right.

12591
06:42:23,762 --> 06:42:28,562
I'll wait for that to go up on

12592
06:42:29,234 --> 06:42:29,667
the screen I will add I

12593
06:42:29,667 --> 06:42:31,667
appreciate it.

12594
06:42:33,504 --> 06:42:34,273
Councilmember Temple's comments

12595
06:42:34,273 --> 06:42:35,400
about how he's going to react.

12596
06:42:35,400 --> 06:42:38,400
I appreciate the huge numbers

12597
06:42:39,144 --> 06:42:39,678
that were generated over

12598
06:42:39,678 --> 06:42:40,378
the past four years.

12599
06:42:40,378 --> 06:42:43,378
We can be proud about

12600
06:42:43,882 --> 06:42:44,649
the numbers.

12601
06:42:44,649 --> 06:42:45,350
i don't think anybody should be

12602
06:42:45,350 --> 06:42:45,751
proud about how we got to

12603
06:42:45,751 --> 06:42:47,751
the numbers.

12604
06:42:48,320 --> 06:42:49,200
I think the abuse of projects

12605
06:42:49,200 --> 06:42:51,420
that we everybody articulated

12606
06:42:53,525 --> 06:42:56,525
and described contributed a lot

12607
06:42:57,129 --> 06:42:57,996
to those not the one The three

12608
06:42:57,996 --> 06:42:58,696
unit 80 used That seemed to be

12609
06:42:58,696 --> 06:43:01,696
the vast majority of projects

12610
06:43:02,934 --> 06:43:06,534
going forward I remain a little

12611
06:43:07,539 --> 06:43:08,340
bit concerned that we MAY have

12612
06:43:08,340 --> 06:43:08,707
rolled this back a little bit

12613
06:43:08,707 --> 06:43:09,675
too much.

12614
06:43:09,675 --> 06:43:12,977
I think there might be a middle

12615
06:43:12,977 --> 06:43:15,977
ground from between what staff

12616
06:43:18,500 --> 06:43:21,500
offered and this subsidy motion

12617
06:43:21,753 --> 06:43:22,620
by Councilmember von Wolpert

12618
06:43:22,620 --> 06:43:23,421
5.5 hours I don't want to go

12619
06:43:23,421 --> 06:43:26,421
through 5.5 hours again when it

12620
06:43:27,292 --> 06:43:27,626
comes back and says you went

12621
06:43:27,626 --> 06:43:29,626
too far.

12622
06:43:32,197 --> 06:43:35,197
I think the city Planning

12623
06:43:36,268 --> 06:43:37,200
Department carefully crafted

12624
06:43:37,200 --> 06:43:37,702
new language over the weekend

12625
06:43:37,702 --> 06:43:41,302
that tried to strike a balance

12626
06:43:41,707 --> 06:43:42,474
with what each side said.

12627
06:43:42,474 --> 06:43:46,740
You know, I mentioned this I

12628
06:43:46,544 --> 06:43:47,313
hear a lot of grumbling.

12629
06:43:47,313 --> 06:43:48,130
There was testimony at a

12630
06:43:48,130 --> 06:43:51,130
different agency that said you

12631
06:43:51,160 --> 06:43:51,783
have a culture to do x, y, z

12632
06:43:51,783 --> 06:43:52,351
And I had to respond saying we

12633
06:43:52,351 --> 06:43:54,751
don't have a culture.

12634
06:43:55,888 --> 06:43:56,655
We have Sacramento that

12635
06:43:56,655 --> 06:43:56,956
dictates what we do and how we

12636
06:43:56,956 --> 06:43:58,956
do it.

12637
06:44:00,926 --> 06:44:01,659
Clearly we went too far from

12638
06:44:01,659 --> 06:44:02,394
where Sacramento was and having

12639
06:44:02,394 --> 06:44:05,994
put that out there we have

12640
06:44:06,265 --> 06:44:06,932
reset the bar.

12641
06:44:06,932 --> 06:44:07,498
The bar is no longer what

12642
06:44:07,498 --> 06:44:09,898
the state mandate is.

12643
06:44:11,303 --> 06:44:12,400
This is my interpretation but

12644
06:44:12,400 --> 06:44:12,771
we raised the bar so high that

12645
06:44:12,771 --> 06:44:16,107
hpd says Don't you dare come

12646
06:44:16,107 --> 06:44:16,475
down too much to what the state

12647
06:44:16,475 --> 06:44:17,750
law says.

12648
06:44:17,750 --> 06:44:17,710
And I think that's where

12649
06:44:17,710 --> 06:44:20,710
the pushback gets why they

12650
06:44:20,746 --> 06:44:21,447
didn't say this in the multiple

12651
06:44:21,447 --> 06:44:23,847
conversations you had before.

12652
06:44:24,350 --> 06:44:24,850
Remains a mystery that we'll

12653
06:44:24,850 --> 06:44:26,850
never understand.

12654
06:44:29,922 --> 06:44:30,689
But I think there's a middle

12655
06:44:30,689 --> 06:44:33,689
ground here that MAY identify

12656
06:44:34,859 --> 06:44:35,528
what the concern is by

12657
06:44:35,528 --> 06:44:39,310
the public that came out and

12658
06:44:39,310 --> 06:44:39,732
gets us a little bit closer and

12659
06:44:39,732 --> 06:44:42,732
a little more hopefully closer

12660
06:44:43,769 --> 06:44:44,637
to what acb is interested in.

12661
06:44:44,637 --> 06:44:47,673
So we do have the motion on

12662
06:44:47,673 --> 06:44:48,407
the screen and if I didn't have

12663
06:44:48,407 --> 06:44:48,974
cataracts I could actually read

12664
06:44:48,974 --> 06:44:51,374
it But nevertheless I

12665
06:44:53,279 --> 06:44:53,879
understand what it was So we

12666
06:44:53,879 --> 06:44:54,280
not seen anybody else in

12667
06:44:54,280 --> 06:44:56,280
the lights.

12668
06:44:58,717 --> 06:44:59,385
We do have a motion by a

12669
06:44:59,385 --> 06:45:00,860
substitute motion by council

12670
06:45:00,860 --> 06:45:03,860
member Von Wolpert and second

12671
06:45:03,489 --> 06:45:03,789
by Council member Campo Oh I'm

12672
06:45:03,789 --> 06:45:05,789
sorry.

12673
06:45:08,527 --> 06:45:09,295
City Attorney in the fee

12674
06:45:09,295 --> 06:45:11,964
resolution it's also an action

12675
06:45:11,964 --> 06:45:14,964
item number three we strike

12676
06:45:17,436 --> 06:45:18,137
moderate also we're going to go

12677
06:45:18,137 --> 06:45:18,603
to two pages so we'll just go

12678
06:45:18,603 --> 06:45:18,937
okay, Thank you.

12679
06:45:18,937 --> 06:45:20,937
>> Okay.

12680
06:45:21,941 --> 06:45:22,675
That's a good point that there

12681
06:45:22,675 --> 06:45:23,409
is a separate resolution for

12682
06:45:23,409 --> 06:45:23,876
how we deal with the fee that's

12683
06:45:23,876 --> 06:45:25,410
still in there.

12684
06:45:25,410 --> 06:45:28,410
>> But I guess it's two

12685
06:46:12,240 --> 06:46:14,240
sections

12686
06:46:36,516 --> 06:46:37,116
and the cost sorry we

12687
06:46:37,116 --> 06:46:39,516
thought the second email

12688
06:46:44,900 --> 06:46:44,790
replace the first email so it

12689
06:46:44,790 --> 06:46:45,491
was going on the screen but it

12690
06:46:45,491 --> 06:46:46,392
will be two and we'll print it

12691
06:46:46,392 --> 06:46:48,961
out so that people can take it

12692
06:46:48,961 --> 06:46:52,561
home in the back as well.

12693
06:46:54,533 --> 06:46:57,533
Souvenir So we're wired while

12694
06:46:58,103 --> 06:46:58,771
we're waiting for that to come

12695
06:46:58,771 --> 06:46:59,438
up I do want to highlight

12696
06:46:59,438 --> 06:47:00,139
number of people spoke about

12697
06:47:00,139 --> 06:47:02,139
affirmatively furthering fair

12698
06:47:02,908 --> 06:47:03,676
housing.

12699
06:47:03,676 --> 06:47:04,243
Look at the language that was

12700
06:47:04,243 --> 06:47:06,243
actually crafted over

12701
06:47:07,780 --> 06:47:08,380
the weekend that took a real

12702
06:47:08,380 --> 06:47:10,380
substantial step towards

12703
06:47:12,986 --> 06:47:13,319
affirmatively furthering fair

12704
06:47:13,319 --> 06:47:14,530
housing.

12705
06:47:14,530 --> 06:47:14,754
The original ordinance that was

12706
06:47:14,754 --> 06:47:17,154
published last weekend didn't

12707
06:47:18,724 --> 06:47:22,924
really go that far but the new

12708
06:47:23,329 --> 06:47:23,763
language in front of us goes

12709
06:47:23,763 --> 06:47:25,763
pretty far.

12710
06:47:28,167 --> 06:47:28,868
>> We up there and then go back

12711
06:47:28,868 --> 06:47:32,468
okay, those are all the emails

12712
06:47:32,905 --> 06:47:36,709
that were sent then I think we

12713
06:47:36,709 --> 06:47:37,100
need to take a five minute

12714
06:47:37,100 --> 06:47:39,100
break.

12715
06:47:41,470 --> 06:47:41,747
>> The city attorney's office

12716
06:47:41,747 --> 06:47:45,347
isn't saying that this is what

12717
06:47:45,618 --> 06:47:46,586
isn't So I MAY add my apologies

12718
06:47:46,586 --> 06:47:47,320
but I will need to take a five

12719
06:47:47,320 --> 06:47:48,210
minute break to make sure we're

12720
06:47:48,210 --> 06:47:50,421
getting the accurate language

12721
06:47:50,890 --> 06:47:51,191
from the city attorney's office

12722
06:47:51,191 --> 06:47:52,525
.

12723
06:47:52,525 --> 06:47:55,525
Yeah, that doesn't look like

12724
06:47:58,630 --> 06:47:58,465
resolution language.

12725
06:47:58,465 --> 06:47:58,764
>> Okay.

12726
06:47:58,764 --> 06:47:59,432
Okay.

12727
06:47:59,432 --> 06:47:59,933
We're going to take another

12728
06:47:59,933 --> 06:48:01,933
five minute break.

12729
06:48:02,402 --> 06:48:05,402
Anybody's guess how long it

12730
06:50:02,322 --> 06:50:04,322
will take

12731
06:53:22,560 --> 06:53:22,990
.

12732
06:53:22,990 --> 06:53:26,590
We're printing it out to give

12733
06:53:28,950 --> 06:53:28,462
everybody because now what do

12734
06:53:28,462 --> 06:53:28,796
you think?

12735
06:53:28,796 --> 06:53:30,796
I bet.

12736
06:53:30,865 --> 06:53:32,865
Oh my GOD.

12737
06:53:55,455 --> 06:53:56,223
I All right.

12738
06:53:56,223 --> 06:53:59,223
We're going to bring council

12739
06:53:59,359 --> 06:54:00,270
together again.

12740
06:54:00,270 --> 06:54:00,394
So city clerk, please call

12741
06:54:00,394 --> 06:54:00,761
the roll.

12742
06:54:00,761 --> 06:54:02,761
Thank you.

12743
06:54:04,465 --> 06:54:05,132
Council PRESIDENT Council

12744
06:54:05,132 --> 06:54:07,532
member Campbell here Council

12745
06:54:09,603 --> 06:54:10,371
member Whitburn here Council

12746
06:54:10,371 --> 06:54:13,371
Member Foster here Member Von

12747
06:54:14,809 --> 06:54:15,610
Wilpert Council PRESIDENT Pro

12748
06:54:15,610 --> 06:54:18,610
Tem Lee here Council Member

12749
06:54:20,147 --> 06:54:20,848
Campion here Council Member

12750
06:54:20,848 --> 06:54:23,248
Moreno Present Council Member

12751
06:54:24,985 --> 06:54:27,385
Ella Rivera and Council

12752
06:54:29,222 --> 06:54:30,900
PRESIDENT LaCava Resident Okay

12753
06:54:30,900 --> 06:54:30,391
I'm going to do a little down

12754
06:54:30,391 --> 06:54:31,157
thing.

12755
06:54:31,157 --> 06:54:34,362
We're going to we're going to

12756
06:54:34,362 --> 06:54:35,290
print out a hard copy because I

12757
06:54:35,290 --> 06:54:38,290
don't think anybody can read

12758
06:54:39,600 --> 06:54:40,234
that on the screen but I think

12759
06:54:40,234 --> 06:54:42,937
we've heard the good work

12760
06:54:42,937 --> 06:54:43,804
the city clerk and our city

12761
06:54:43,804 --> 06:54:46,204
attorneys, the court every

12762
06:54:48,242 --> 06:54:48,942
place council member Campos

12763
06:54:48,942 --> 06:54:50,942
friendly amendment and

12764
06:54:52,446 --> 06:54:53,114
the original substitute motion

12765
06:54:53,114 --> 06:54:55,514
by council member Yvonne

12766
06:55:16,103 --> 06:55:18,103
Gilbert The council

12767
06:55:39,761 --> 06:55:40,661
transmitting All right I think

12768
06:55:40,661 --> 06:55:44,699
no one is in the reading mode

12769
06:55:44,699 --> 06:55:48,299
anymore So we have our quorum.

12770
06:55:50,171 --> 06:55:50,872
We have the substitute motion

12771
06:55:50,872 --> 06:55:51,439
by council member Von Wilpert

12772
06:55:51,439 --> 06:55:52,600
and again seconded by

12773
06:55:52,600 --> 06:55:54,600
Councilmember Campos.

12774
06:55:55,750 --> 06:55:55,443
So City Clerk please call

12775
06:55:55,443 --> 06:55:55,877
the vote.

12776
06:55:55,877 --> 06:55:56,543
>> Thank you.

12777
06:55:56,543 --> 06:55:58,943
Council PRESIDENT I'm sorry

12778
06:56:00,470 --> 06:56:00,414
The voting system Please cast

12779
06:56:00,414 --> 06:56:01,115
your vote.

12780
06:56:01,115 --> 06:56:01,716
Councilmember Campbell MAY get

12781
06:56:01,716 --> 06:56:03,510
your vote for the record

12782
06:56:03,510 --> 06:56:05,451
Council member Campbell votes

12783
06:56:12,860 --> 06:56:13,161
yes and I failed for yays five

12784
06:56:13,161 --> 06:56:15,161
nays.

12785
06:56:17,198 --> 06:56:19,598
The substitute motion fails.

12786
06:56:22,636 --> 06:56:23,504
Took an hour couple of hours.

12787
06:56:23,504 --> 06:56:24,606
I don't want to do this again.

12788
06:56:24,606 --> 06:56:26,507
I want to try to nail what a cd

12789
06:56:26,507 --> 06:56:29,507
would actually accept and I

12790
06:56:31,679 --> 06:56:32,447
don't think that was it.

12791
06:56:32,447 --> 06:56:35,447
>> Council member Campos up on

12792
06:56:36,984 --> 06:56:37,418
the light since the alternative

12793
06:56:37,418 --> 06:56:38,119
failed.

12794
06:56:38,119 --> 06:56:38,753
We're now back to the actual

12795
06:56:38,753 --> 06:56:39,453
original which is Council

12796
06:56:39,453 --> 06:56:41,256
member Lee Council present Pro

12797
06:56:41,256 --> 06:56:41,990
Tem Lee I would offer as a

12798
06:56:41,990 --> 06:56:44,390
friendly amendment the moderate

12799
06:56:45,659 --> 06:56:46,361
amendment now that that's

12800
06:56:46,361 --> 06:56:49,361
wasn't in the original motion

12801
06:56:50,698 --> 06:56:51,366
as a friendly amendment to

12802
06:56:51,366 --> 06:56:54,366
remove all what I stated

12803
06:56:54,701 --> 06:56:55,437
earlier get rid of the moderate

12804
06:56:55,437 --> 06:56:58,437
striking the word moderate from

12805
06:57:00,740 --> 06:57:00,709
those two components So since

12806
06:57:00,709 --> 06:57:01,309
Councilmember Foster's on

12807
06:57:01,309 --> 06:57:01,943
the lights I'm going to

12808
06:57:01,943 --> 06:57:04,343
politely declined here But

12809
06:57:04,612 --> 06:57:05,347
presuming that there might be

12810
06:57:05,347 --> 06:57:08,347
more discussion because I don't

12811
06:57:09,851 --> 06:57:10,484
know if mine is going to be

12812
06:57:10,484 --> 06:57:11,119
the discussion point stop.

12813
06:57:11,119 --> 06:57:14,119
>> All right, We'll go to

12814
06:57:14,356 --> 06:57:15,230
Council member Foster who

12815
06:57:15,230 --> 06:57:18,230
started off on this journey

12816
06:57:18,626 --> 06:57:19,270
about four months ago or so.

12817
06:57:19,270 --> 06:57:21,270
Thank you.

12818
06:57:23,632 --> 06:57:24,990
Council PRESIDENT.

12819
06:57:24,990 --> 06:57:26,990
Thank you.

12820
06:57:29,170 --> 06:57:29,471
And I'll say this Thank you,

12821
06:57:29,471 --> 06:57:31,471
Heidi.

12822
06:57:34,476 --> 06:57:38,790
Um, and to your team I think

12823
06:57:38,790 --> 06:57:38,779
Council PRESIDENT Kind of

12824
06:57:38,779 --> 06:57:41,490
mentioned we're here based on

12825
06:57:41,490 --> 06:57:45,249
some things that I did a few

12826
06:57:46,620 --> 06:57:50,820
months back but I stand by what

12827
06:57:53,661 --> 06:57:58,566
I did and I think it was and is

12828
06:57:58,566 --> 06:58:02,766
the right thing to do in my

12829
06:58:03,771 --> 06:58:04,539
team made gave me some very

12830
06:58:04,539 --> 06:58:07,539
good talking points But see

12831
06:58:08,142 --> 06:58:11,742
it's 9:00 and I think I have

12832
06:58:12,313 --> 06:58:15,913
spoken on all of my concerns

12833
06:58:17,285 --> 06:58:20,885
around housing whether it be my

12834
06:58:22,230 --> 06:58:23,925
issues with large lots and

12835
06:58:23,925 --> 06:58:25,925
the discriminatory practices

12836
06:58:29,965 --> 06:58:33,565
behind them or the 80 years in

12837
06:58:34,902 --> 06:58:35,570
which I feel the conversation

12838
06:58:35,570 --> 06:58:39,170
that should have been had on

12839
06:58:39,940 --> 06:58:40,375
the front end was a true zoning

12840
06:58:40,375 --> 06:58:42,375
conversation.

12841
06:58:43,812 --> 06:58:44,545
I think that would have brought

12842
06:58:44,545 --> 06:58:45,247
the appropriate transparency to

12843
06:58:45,247 --> 06:58:49,840
the table and I don't think we

12844
06:58:49,840 --> 06:58:50,719
would be in the position where

12845
06:58:50,719 --> 06:58:56,119
we have as we want to say a bad

12846
06:58:56,658 --> 06:59:00,258
actor where I think this bad

12847
06:59:01,462 --> 06:59:01,796
actor was intentional in his

12848
06:59:01,796 --> 06:59:03,796
efforts.

12849
06:59:05,934 --> 06:59:06,968
If I recall when I first went

12850
06:59:06,968 --> 06:59:11,768
down a road sdr he is a member

12851
06:59:15,543 --> 06:59:19,743
of the Casita group and how we

12852
06:59:20,650 --> 06:59:21,350
want to per say include folks

12853
06:59:21,350 --> 06:59:24,350
in our stakeholder groups that

12854
06:59:24,653 --> 06:59:25,153
conduct themselves as such

12855
06:59:25,153 --> 06:59:27,153
Shame on us.

12856
06:59:29,291 --> 06:59:33,491
I'd like to think that our job

12857
06:59:34,463 --> 06:59:37,463
is to support our business

12858
06:59:39,468 --> 06:59:40,235
community but I also think it's

12859
06:59:40,235 --> 06:59:42,571
important that we support our

12860
06:59:42,571 --> 06:59:44,571
neighborhoods and especially

12861
06:59:50,712 --> 06:59:54,912
when it comes to district for I

12862
06:59:55,918 --> 06:59:58,918
made the decision to occupy

12863
07:00:00,889 --> 07:00:01,623
this seat because of the years

12864
07:00:01,623 --> 07:00:04,623
of disinvestment and the years

12865
07:00:06,128 --> 07:00:06,461
where I felt District four was

12866
07:00:06,461 --> 07:00:08,461
ignored.

12867
07:00:11,333 --> 07:00:12,134
Now having said, I also would

12868
07:00:12,134 --> 07:00:14,669
like to say that I truly do

12869
07:00:14,669 --> 07:00:15,337
feel and believe that District

12870
07:00:15,337 --> 07:00:16,138
four is the best district in

12871
07:00:16,138 --> 07:00:19,941
the city of San Diego And I say

12872
07:00:19,941 --> 07:00:20,642
that would confidence and I say

12873
07:00:20,642 --> 07:00:24,242
that because I love my people

12874
07:00:24,880 --> 07:00:25,647
and I love my community And so

12875
07:00:25,647 --> 07:00:29,847
forgive me if as I went down

12876
07:00:29,918 --> 07:00:30,585
this road I was a little

12877
07:00:30,585 --> 07:00:31,385
selfish but I will always be

12878
07:00:31,385 --> 07:00:34,385
selfish when it comes to

12879
07:00:35,256 --> 07:00:38,856
the district four because it is

12880
07:00:39,128 --> 07:00:42,728
just that important to me with

12881
07:00:44,767 --> 07:00:45,668
that as you can see we did I

12882
07:00:45,668 --> 07:00:49,805
guess I did get my up or down

12883
07:00:49,805 --> 07:00:50,505
vote in regards to trying to

12884
07:00:50,505 --> 07:00:53,909
rein in the numbers that were

12885
07:00:53,909 --> 07:00:57,509
presented and in front of us.

12886
07:00:58,881 --> 07:01:03,810
But as you can see we still

12887
07:01:04,860 --> 07:01:04,920
continue to have challenges.

12888
07:01:04,920 --> 07:01:08,257
And so with that as I

12889
07:01:08,257 --> 07:01:11,857
understand and I just want to

12890
07:01:13,162 --> 07:01:16,162
make sure I understand process

12891
07:01:18,267 --> 07:01:19,340
as the was was it did we demand

12892
07:01:19,340 --> 07:01:22,634
a substitute motion So as a

12893
07:01:22,705 --> 07:01:23,338
substitute motion has failed we

12894
07:01:23,338 --> 07:01:26,338
refer back to the original

12895
07:01:27,776 --> 07:01:28,143
motion that was on the table.

12896
07:01:28,143 --> 07:01:30,143
Correct.

12897
07:01:37,520 --> 07:01:37,753
And with what took place and I

12898
07:01:37,753 --> 07:01:41,353
just want to say this too

12899
07:01:41,623 --> 07:01:42,792
because I'm just perplexed and

12900
07:01:42,792 --> 07:01:46,395
excuse me because as I look at

12901
07:01:46,395 --> 07:01:46,996
the production, if I understand

12902
07:01:46,996 --> 07:01:49,396
everything that you have

12903
07:01:51,500 --> 07:01:55,100
provided to us and between I

12904
07:01:58,474 --> 07:01:59,340
guess is it 90 what is between

12905
07:01:59,340 --> 07:02:02,340
2021 and 2024 when you look at

12906
07:02:07,916 --> 07:02:10,916
what was permitted we've had

12907
07:02:12,540 --> 07:02:12,755
5182 permits for 123 80 new

12908
07:02:12,755 --> 07:02:15,958
homes And I believe in your

12909
07:02:15,958 --> 07:02:16,825
response to you noted I mean I

12910
07:02:16,825 --> 07:02:21,250
kind of alluded to this in my

12911
07:02:21,970 --> 07:02:21,831
questions earlier is that we

12912
07:02:21,831 --> 07:02:24,231
are having these conversations,

12913
07:02:25,935 --> 07:02:27,935
these contentious conversations

12914
07:02:28,971 --> 07:02:29,772
on a program that has produced

12915
07:02:29,772 --> 07:02:32,772
about 2% of the production that

12916
07:02:34,309 --> 07:02:35,110
we are discussing If I

12917
07:02:35,110 --> 07:02:35,678
understand these numbers is in

12918
07:02:35,678 --> 07:02:38,780
my understanding the numbers

12919
07:02:39,482 --> 07:02:40,248
correctly that the state

12920
07:02:40,248 --> 07:02:43,248
program is what is actually

12921
07:02:44,120 --> 07:02:44,887
producing I believe instead of

12922
07:02:44,887 --> 07:02:48,591
little numbers It is in my memo

12923
07:02:48,591 --> 07:02:49,292
that I did state and I

12924
07:02:49,292 --> 07:02:49,859
apologize off the top of my

12925
07:02:49,859 --> 07:02:50,559
head I don't remember

12926
07:02:50,559 --> 07:02:53,559
the precise number but overall

12927
07:02:53,862 --> 07:02:54,496
the numbers produced through

12928
07:02:54,496 --> 07:02:56,896
the affordable home bonus

12929
07:02:59,100 --> 07:02:59,701
program for a use is a very

12930
07:02:59,701 --> 07:03:00,336
small percentage of course of

12931
07:03:00,336 --> 07:03:02,736
the overall total housing

12932
07:03:04,730 --> 07:03:05,410
production across the city.

12933
07:03:05,410 --> 07:03:08,444
It is it is one of many, you

12934
07:03:08,444 --> 07:03:08,811
know, pathway I get you and

12935
07:03:08,811 --> 07:03:09,478
thank you.

12936
07:03:09,478 --> 07:03:10,112
I'm just a little perplexed

12937
07:03:10,112 --> 07:03:12,948
We're having this level of

12938
07:03:12,948 --> 07:03:13,682
conversation over program that

12939
07:03:13,682 --> 07:03:17,282
is not producing the units as

12940
07:03:18,254 --> 07:03:19,221
intended And so I just other

12941
07:03:19,221 --> 07:03:21,791
than our bad actors who want to

12942
07:03:21,791 --> 07:03:25,391
do 780 use right but also and

12943
07:03:26,595 --> 07:03:30,195
just before I move forward I

12944
07:03:31,401 --> 07:03:32,568
think I gave the clerk a vote a

12945
07:03:32,568 --> 07:03:36,768
clerk and I think I had given

12946
07:03:37,600 --> 07:03:37,873
the clerk a photo that I would

12947
07:03:37,873 --> 07:03:41,473
like to show of a project

12948
07:03:41,844 --> 07:03:44,244
that's currently taking place

12949
07:03:46,115 --> 07:03:46,883
in my district and this is

12950
07:03:46,883 --> 07:03:49,883
within walking distance of my

12951
07:03:54,123 --> 07:03:58,923
home And as much as we can make

12952
07:03:59,329 --> 07:04:01,729
that any larger essentially

12953
07:04:03,866 --> 07:04:07,466
this is a six but is 60 200

12954
07:04:08,671 --> 07:04:12,271
square foot lot that has one

12955
07:04:12,842 --> 07:04:13,375
two, three, four dwelling two

12956
07:04:13,375 --> 07:04:15,775
story units as such.

12957
07:04:16,913 --> 07:04:20,513
So that's what eight units And

12958
07:04:20,883 --> 07:04:25,830
as you can see the lower unit

12959
07:04:25,955 --> 07:04:26,923
is below street level And I am

12960
07:04:26,923 --> 07:04:31,123
just amazed as I drive down my

12961
07:04:31,394 --> 07:04:32,950
block to see something like

12962
07:04:32,950 --> 07:04:32,829
this to where without looking

12963
07:04:32,829 --> 07:04:35,665
at the plans I don't know how

12964
07:04:35,665 --> 07:04:35,932
folks are going to get in and

12965
07:04:35,932 --> 07:04:36,565
out.

12966
07:04:36,565 --> 07:04:38,965
Clearly there's no clearly

12967
07:04:40,170 --> 07:04:40,937
there's no parking I don't know

12968
07:04:40,937 --> 07:04:41,737
what folks are going to do with

12969
07:04:41,737 --> 07:04:44,737
their garbage because based on

12970
07:04:45,508 --> 07:04:48,508
our trash program they are

12971
07:04:49,579 --> 07:04:50,346
excluded from our program So

12972
07:04:50,346 --> 07:04:50,680
they have to go to a private

12973
07:04:50,680 --> 07:04:52,680
hauler.

12974
07:04:54,817 --> 07:04:55,351
But I don't see where a bin is

12975
07:04:55,351 --> 07:04:57,751
going to be located.

12976
07:04:59,155 --> 07:04:59,922
So this those types of things

12977
07:04:59,922 --> 07:05:02,922
where I just don't understand

12978
07:05:04,660 --> 07:05:05,461
how we cannot rein in and have

12979
07:05:05,461 --> 07:05:09,320
certain and I believe the term

12980
07:05:09,320 --> 07:05:11,432
is objective design standards

12981
07:05:14,370 --> 07:05:17,370
or something to that effect.

12982
07:05:18,641 --> 07:05:19,442
I just feel as if we are really

12983
07:05:19,442 --> 07:05:19,742
have our hands tied behind our

12984
07:05:19,742 --> 07:05:20,710
back.

12985
07:05:20,710 --> 07:05:23,545
And I'll also say this and I

12986
07:05:23,545 --> 07:05:24,180
think the public needs to know

12987
07:05:24,180 --> 07:05:24,914
this and I appreciate your

12988
07:05:24,914 --> 07:05:27,914
passion and I appreciate your

12989
07:05:28,785 --> 07:05:29,486
engagement but as you can see a

12990
07:05:29,486 --> 07:05:33,686
lot of the um we do have

12991
07:05:33,823 --> 07:05:34,457
certain control here but a lot

12992
07:05:34,457 --> 07:05:35,191
of the things that we are

12993
07:05:35,191 --> 07:05:38,427
struggling with or or that that

12994
07:05:38,427 --> 07:05:39,162
presents certain challenges all

12995
07:05:39,162 --> 07:05:40,620
take place at the state level.

12996
07:05:40,620 --> 07:05:43,662
So I would encourage you to

12997
07:05:43,733 --> 07:05:46,133
engage with your state

12998
07:05:48,400 --> 07:05:48,704
representatives as well even to

12999
07:05:48,704 --> 07:05:51,704
address letters that come out

13000
07:05:52,676 --> 07:05:53,543
from ac that make no sense

13001
07:05:53,543 --> 07:05:54,511
right where where we have to go

13002
07:05:54,511 --> 07:05:58,214
back and say make it make sense

13003
07:05:58,214 --> 07:05:58,815
Our attorneys can't make heads

13004
07:05:58,815 --> 07:06:01,815
or tails of what oecd's

13005
07:06:02,180 --> 07:06:02,886
providing at this point.

13006
07:06:02,886 --> 07:06:06,656
So I think there just needs to

13007
07:06:06,656 --> 07:06:07,523
be as we talk about engagement

13008
07:06:07,523 --> 07:06:08,224
,we need to make sure we're

13009
07:06:08,224 --> 07:06:11,224
addressing all of the levels

13010
07:06:12,362 --> 07:06:13,630
consistently so that we can

13011
07:06:13,630 --> 07:06:16,199
have some continuity as as we

13012
07:06:16,199 --> 07:06:16,533
look at what we can do here

13013
07:06:16,533 --> 07:06:18,533
locally.

13014
07:06:21,370 --> 07:06:24,970
But with that and with my

13015
07:06:26,476 --> 07:06:27,770
issues I do have I also think I

13016
07:06:27,770 --> 07:06:30,677
gave the clerk a put an

13017
07:06:33,160 --> 07:06:33,783
amendment that I would like to

13018
07:06:33,783 --> 07:06:36,783
bring forward as a substitute

13019
07:06:37,854 --> 07:06:42,540
motion as well if we can get

13020
07:06:47,831 --> 07:06:51,431
that brought up I thought there

13021
07:06:52,690 --> 07:06:56,269
should be more now Well I guess

13022
07:06:57,441 --> 07:06:57,907
is at the top to move staff's

13023
07:06:57,907 --> 07:06:58,608
recommendation.

13024
07:06:58,608 --> 07:06:59,309
It's not as I don't know city

13025
07:06:59,309 --> 07:07:02,512
Attorney if we need to go back

13026
07:07:02,512 --> 07:07:03,213
and have him plop in all

13027
07:07:03,213 --> 07:07:03,880
the true legal issues but it's

13028
07:07:03,880 --> 07:07:06,820
essentially to move staff's

13029
07:07:06,820 --> 07:07:06,783
recommendation with

13030
07:07:06,783 --> 07:07:09,183
the following modification and

13031
07:07:10,153 --> 07:07:13,753
that's to amend table 141-03a

13032
07:07:17,895 --> 07:07:18,661
in section 141-0302I think

13033
07:07:18,661 --> 07:07:21,498
that's a d I can't see that

13034
07:07:21,498 --> 07:07:22,298
part and a four as follows And

13035
07:07:22,298 --> 07:07:25,298
that essentially is taking lot

13036
07:07:29,172 --> 07:07:32,772
areas 8000 or less to a maximum

13037
07:07:33,777 --> 07:07:36,777
of four units 8001 to 10,000 to

13038
07:07:37,681 --> 07:07:40,810
five units and 10,001 or

13039
07:07:41,652 --> 07:07:42,519
greater to six units And that's

13040
07:07:42,519 --> 07:07:46,719
what I would like to propose as

13041
07:07:49,759 --> 07:07:50,527
a substitute route motion

13042
07:07:50,527 --> 07:07:54,127
Unless you want to do a

13043
07:07:55,650 --> 07:07:55,799
friendly amendment put up or

13044
07:07:55,799 --> 07:07:56,500
have you do a substitute motion

13045
07:07:56,500 --> 07:07:58,835
council PRESIDENT You might as

13046
07:07:58,835 --> 07:07:59,603
the maker of the original

13047
07:07:59,603 --> 07:08:03,730
motion Could I have a request?

13048
07:08:03,730 --> 07:08:03,673
Clearly I think item 16 is

13049
07:08:03,673 --> 07:08:04,700
the most popular item of

13050
07:08:04,700 --> 07:08:04,608
the day.

13051
07:08:04,608 --> 07:08:07,608
It's the one where we're

13052
07:08:07,777 --> 07:08:08,479
fiddling with the scale and

13053
07:08:08,479 --> 07:08:09,146
where that scale makes sense

13054
07:08:09,146 --> 07:08:09,680
And I understand that we all

13055
07:08:09,680 --> 07:08:10,800
MAY have a different

13056
07:08:10,800 --> 07:08:11,982
perspective.

13057
07:08:11,982 --> 07:08:16,182
And so if I could ask my

13058
07:08:16,820 --> 07:08:17,487
colleague if we could actually

13059
07:08:17,487 --> 07:08:18,288
bifurcate item 16 because I

13060
07:08:18,288 --> 07:08:18,923
think many of us had have had

13061
07:08:18,923 --> 07:08:20,923
significant discussions on

13062
07:08:21,992 --> 07:08:22,493
the value of the entire package

13063
07:08:22,493 --> 07:08:23,126
as a whole.

13064
07:08:23,126 --> 07:08:23,826
There are other amendments

13065
07:08:23,826 --> 07:08:26,497
related to state components or

13066
07:08:26,497 --> 07:08:27,297
amendments to this program that

13067
07:08:27,297 --> 07:08:28,640
I think we all find that are

13068
07:08:28,640 --> 07:08:31,640
valuable because they rein in

13069
07:08:31,134 --> 07:08:31,835
other problematic areas.

13070
07:08:31,835 --> 07:08:34,835
But this particular section on

13071
07:08:35,472 --> 07:08:36,173
development scale seems to be

13072
07:08:36,173 --> 07:08:36,906
the one piece that we all have

13073
07:08:36,906 --> 07:08:37,641
slightly different opinions on.

13074
07:08:37,641 --> 07:08:40,641
So I would certainly appreciate

13075
07:08:41,412 --> 07:08:42,112
an opportunity to I mean if I

13076
07:08:42,112 --> 07:08:42,813
could still move and I don't

13077
07:08:42,813 --> 07:08:45,213
know if Councilmember regular

13078
07:08:45,649 --> 07:08:46,382
Rivera would select a second

13079
07:08:46,382 --> 07:08:46,984
package without item 16 whether

13080
07:08:46,984 --> 07:08:49,384
this could be considered

13081
07:08:54,725 --> 07:08:55,492
separately.

13082
07:08:55,492 --> 07:08:58,262
I think as a courtesy to

13083
07:08:58,262 --> 07:08:59,290
Councilmember Foster, I'm going

13084
07:08:59,290 --> 07:09:02,533
to second his motion since he's

13085
07:09:02,533 --> 07:09:04,933
accepting everything else in

13086
07:09:08,105 --> 07:09:12,810
there and I, I think well, if I

13087
07:09:12,810 --> 07:09:15,810
do a substitute well that's

13088
07:09:17,648 --> 07:09:18,415
what I'm asking Work with my

13089
07:09:18,415 --> 07:09:22,150
good friend MR. Campo in his

13090
07:09:23,320 --> 07:09:23,620
because he deferred to me

13091
07:09:23,620 --> 07:09:25,620
Right.

13092
07:09:26,900 --> 07:09:29,690
2 to 2 before you two can talk

13093
07:09:30,794 --> 07:09:31,295
on his So can we add his into

13094
07:09:31,295 --> 07:09:32,930
Yeah into mine.

13095
07:09:32,930 --> 07:09:33,797
I don't know if it's in

13096
07:09:33,797 --> 07:09:37,397
the same section so that might

13097
07:09:39,370 --> 07:09:39,736
be a moderate strike and

13098
07:09:39,736 --> 07:09:41,736
moderate.

13099
07:09:43,907 --> 07:09:48,107
Okay so we should be able to

13100
07:09:49,790 --> 07:09:49,747
put that up pretty quickly.

13101
07:09:49,747 --> 07:09:50,514
>> Does that make sense?

13102
07:09:50,514 --> 07:09:51,482
We gave a courtesy to council

13103
07:09:51,482 --> 07:09:55,820
my Ben Wolpert to entertain her

13104
07:09:56,320 --> 07:09:57,870
substitute motion.

13105
07:09:57,870 --> 07:09:57,754
I would think we should

13106
07:09:57,754 --> 07:10:00,754
entertain the same thing for

13107
07:10:01,559 --> 07:10:02,225
Councilmember Foster and if you

13108
07:10:02,225 --> 07:10:02,960
don't like the amendments to

13109
07:10:02,960 --> 07:10:07,160
the table then we can vote that

13110
07:10:07,164 --> 07:10:07,664
down and see where we go with

13111
07:10:07,664 --> 07:10:08,640
You're the second.

13112
07:10:08,640 --> 07:10:08,599
That's fine.

13113
07:10:08,599 --> 07:10:10,999
I'm fine with that.

13114
07:10:11,302 --> 07:10:11,702
If you're the second of

13115
07:10:11,702 --> 07:10:12,136
the motion.

13116
07:10:12,136 --> 07:10:14,136
Just a brief.

13117
07:10:22,780 --> 07:10:23,447
This is just the council

13118
07:10:23,447 --> 07:10:24,248
PRESIDENT So the alternative

13119
07:10:24,248 --> 07:10:27,848
motion has been made and you've

13120
07:10:28,850 --> 07:10:28,785
seconded your substitute

13121
07:10:28,785 --> 07:10:31,185
substitute motion So therefore

13122
07:10:32,622 --> 07:10:33,157
Councilmember Foster is now in

13123
07:10:33,157 --> 07:10:33,724
control.

13124
07:10:33,724 --> 07:10:34,392
>> The motion Correct.

13125
07:10:34,392 --> 07:10:37,227
You would accept my friendly

13126
07:10:37,227 --> 07:10:37,595
amendment to strike moderate?

13127
07:10:37,595 --> 07:10:37,895
Yeah.

13128
07:10:37,895 --> 07:10:38,195
Yeah.

13129
07:10:38,195 --> 07:10:38,829
Okay.

13130
07:10:38,829 --> 07:10:39,196
They're doing that Right.

13131
07:10:39,196 --> 07:10:41,196
Very good.

13132
07:10:42,333 --> 07:10:42,933
Incorporate that in since they

13133
07:10:42,933 --> 07:10:45,333
have that language from

13134
07:10:46,137 --> 07:10:46,570
the previous action So does

13135
07:10:46,570 --> 07:10:48,570
that mean Yes.

13136
07:10:56,460 --> 07:10:56,814
Oh yeah And I'm not going to

13137
07:10:56,814 --> 07:11:00,414
try to bring back my other

13138
07:11:04,822 --> 07:11:05,489
amendment So Oh Councilmember

13139
07:11:05,489 --> 07:11:06,157
Campbell I'm sorry The clerk

13140
07:11:06,157 --> 07:11:09,757
stepped away so I missed it.

13141
07:11:09,793 --> 07:11:10,361
Did you want to speak?

13142
07:11:10,361 --> 07:11:12,361
>> Yes, no problem.

13143
07:11:14,498 --> 07:11:18,980
It's only been about 20s I

13144
07:11:18,469 --> 07:11:19,437
would just like to add to my

13145
07:11:19,437 --> 07:11:22,437
colleague Henry Foster who just

13146
07:11:24,242 --> 07:11:27,842
reminded us that what is in

13147
07:11:28,412 --> 07:11:29,800
the recommendations as written

13148
07:11:29,800 --> 07:11:31,480
by our planning department

13149
07:11:33,918 --> 07:11:34,784
staff is so much better than

13150
07:11:34,784 --> 07:11:38,384
what we have been living with

13151
07:11:38,489 --> 07:11:42,689
and I just want to let everyone

13152
07:11:43,761 --> 07:11:44,628
know that it is to me you know

13153
07:11:44,628 --> 07:11:48,228
I'm one of those people who

13154
07:11:48,433 --> 07:11:49,200
didn't didn't like going beyond

13155
07:11:49,200 --> 07:11:52,800
the state What the state wanted

13156
07:11:53,738 --> 07:11:57,241
however, this is such a better

13157
07:11:57,241 --> 07:11:58,900
change from what we would be

13158
07:11:58,900 --> 07:12:01,609
living with prior to this that

13159
07:12:02,346 --> 07:12:03,810
I am in favor of it And I

13160
07:12:03,810 --> 07:12:05,810
appreciate Councilmember Foster

13161
07:12:07,318 --> 07:12:07,952
making the substitute motion

13162
07:12:07,952 --> 07:12:08,385
and our council PRESIDENT

13163
07:12:08,385 --> 07:12:10,385
Seconding it.

13164
07:12:12,623 --> 07:12:13,424
I just want to remind people

13165
07:12:13,424 --> 07:12:17,562
that what this does is it it

13166
07:12:17,562 --> 07:12:18,162
limits ideas and fires zones

13167
07:12:18,162 --> 07:12:21,162
both high and very high.

13168
07:12:22,500 --> 07:12:23,167
It causes ingress and egress

13169
07:12:23,167 --> 07:12:25,567
requirements for fire safety

13170
07:12:25,569 --> 07:12:27,569
and other safety.

13171
07:12:31,900 --> 07:12:34,609
It is this consistent with unit

13172
07:12:35,545 --> 07:12:36,213
size and and the caps that are

13173
07:12:36,213 --> 07:12:36,847
in here and in what

13174
07:12:36,847 --> 07:12:39,247
Councilmember Foster put I

13175
07:12:41,850 --> 07:12:41,785
think our excellent and I think

13176
07:12:41,785 --> 07:12:42,921
we have found a middle ground

13177
07:12:42,921 --> 07:12:43,254
that we can agree on at this

13178
07:12:43,254 --> 07:12:45,254
time.

13179
07:12:48,526 --> 07:12:49,260
I I particularly want to

13180
07:12:49,260 --> 07:12:51,660
mention the parking requirement

13181
07:12:53,464 --> 07:12:54,199
that's back in I was the only

13182
07:12:54,199 --> 07:12:57,799
person many years ago who voted

13183
07:12:58,303 --> 07:12:58,937
that we should not deny parking

13184
07:12:58,937 --> 07:13:00,937
requirements to builders.

13185
07:13:03,141 --> 07:13:03,907
I was the only no vote on that

13186
07:13:03,907 --> 07:13:07,712
years ago and I'm glad to see

13187
07:13:07,712 --> 07:13:08,479
that some repair of that is

13188
07:13:08,479 --> 07:13:12,790
included in this And I think

13189
07:13:12,917 --> 07:13:17,117
that this is is really quite an

13190
07:13:17,722 --> 07:13:18,523
excellent beginning though

13191
07:13:18,523 --> 07:13:21,523
These these changes are not

13192
07:13:22,761 --> 07:13:23,627
perfect.

13193
07:13:23,627 --> 07:13:24,395
I think they're a good step, a

13194
07:13:24,395 --> 07:13:27,332
big step toward a much more

13195
07:13:27,332 --> 07:13:28,199
rational measure in terms of

13196
07:13:28,199 --> 07:13:32,170
aid to use for our city than we

13197
07:13:32,170 --> 07:13:33,370
have had prior to now.

13198
07:13:33,370 --> 07:13:37,800
And I also just want to mention

13199
07:13:37,800 --> 07:13:37,609
so the public knows it is

13200
07:13:37,609 --> 07:13:40,609
illegal for a short term

13201
07:13:42,713 --> 07:13:43,481
vacation rental to occur in an

13202
07:13:43,481 --> 07:13:46,718
ad you So I just want to

13203
07:13:46,718 --> 07:13:49,718
mention that there are 117 to

13204
07:13:50,855 --> 07:13:51,455
use built before 2017 that are

13205
07:13:51,455 --> 07:13:53,855
allowed but most of

13206
07:13:55,693 --> 07:13:56,394
the thousands of them are not

13207
07:13:56,394 --> 07:13:59,994
ever allowed to be used as

13208
07:14:00,632 --> 07:14:01,600
short term rentals.

13209
07:14:01,600 --> 07:14:04,803
So if you know of one that is

13210
07:14:04,803 --> 07:14:05,570
please let the city know

13211
07:14:05,570 --> 07:14:05,870
because we will clamp down on

13212
07:14:05,870 --> 07:14:07,870
that.

13213
07:14:09,841 --> 07:14:10,742
That is already a law and that

13214
07:14:10,742 --> 07:14:11,109
continues to be a law in this

13215
07:14:11,109 --> 07:14:13,109
new plan.

13216
07:14:14,945 --> 07:14:15,647
So I I'm very much in favor of

13217
07:14:15,647 --> 07:14:17,647
Councilmember Foster's motion

13218
07:14:20,510 --> 07:14:20,852
and I again I want to thank him

13219
07:14:20,852 --> 07:14:24,452
for bringing this up in MARCH

13220
07:14:25,900 --> 07:14:25,857
and making it possible that we

13221
07:14:25,857 --> 07:14:26,391
can do something about this and

13222
07:14:26,391 --> 07:14:28,791
also for the public.

13223
07:14:29,494 --> 07:14:30,462
I just want you to know that in

13224
07:14:30,462 --> 07:14:34,620
2017 before any of us were here

13225
07:14:35,367 --> 07:14:36,670
before the mayor was talked

13226
07:14:36,670 --> 07:14:38,970
Gloria, that is when the ball

13227
07:14:38,970 --> 07:14:39,871
and say do you program was

13228
07:14:39,871 --> 07:14:44,900
passed And I got to tell you

13229
07:14:44,900 --> 07:14:44,609
that most people did not know

13230
07:14:44,609 --> 07:14:47,609
about it at that time.

13231
07:14:48,546 --> 07:14:49,470
It has taken us this many years

13232
07:14:49,470 --> 07:14:49,848
to catch up.

13233
07:14:49,848 --> 07:14:53,448
But this what we have presented

13234
07:14:53,985 --> 07:14:54,385
to us tonight is a great

13235
07:14:54,385 --> 07:14:55,153
improvement.

13236
07:14:55,153 --> 07:14:57,923
So I want to thank you and I

13237
07:14:57,923 --> 07:14:58,489
will vote yes.

13238
07:14:58,489 --> 07:15:00,489
>> Thank you.

13239
07:15:03,562 --> 07:15:04,195
Council PRESIDENT Thank you,

13240
07:15:04,195 --> 07:15:04,895
Councilmember Campbell And

13241
07:15:04,895 --> 07:15:07,232
thank you for sharing with us

13242
07:15:07,232 --> 07:15:07,933
in this very long meeting as

13243
07:15:07,933 --> 07:15:10,333
you continue your successful

13244
07:15:12,837 --> 07:15:13,605
recovery Council PRESIDENT Pro

13245
07:15:13,605 --> 07:15:17,508
Tem Lee I'm sorry I think we

13246
07:15:17,508 --> 07:15:18,143
kicked you out the lights from

13247
07:15:18,143 --> 07:15:18,843
some additional comments.

13248
07:15:18,843 --> 07:15:19,410
>> I don't think I was coming

13249
07:15:19,410 --> 07:15:21,810
off clearly for that.

13250
07:15:22,747 --> 07:15:23,448
I guess I'm going to make a

13251
07:15:23,448 --> 07:15:24,149
request of the motion maker if

13252
07:15:24,149 --> 07:15:25,751
they'd be willing to bifurcate

13253
07:15:25,751 --> 07:15:29,351
the item to separate out item

13254
07:15:34,760 --> 07:15:35,930
16 from the rest of the package

13255
07:15:35,930 --> 07:15:37,930
.

13256
07:15:40,332 --> 07:15:40,799
Is it item 16 looking to

13257
07:15:40,799 --> 07:15:41,133
planning stuff?

13258
07:15:41,133 --> 07:15:42,000
Um yeah.

13259
07:15:42,000 --> 07:15:45,600
And I'll turn to our city

13260
07:15:45,903 --> 07:15:46,571
attorneys to confirm whether

13261
07:15:46,571 --> 07:15:46,872
that is item 16 on the slide

13262
07:15:46,872 --> 07:15:47,539
deck.

13263
07:15:47,539 --> 07:15:49,939
Basically I'm asking to

13264
07:15:50,675 --> 07:15:51,309
separate out and take two

13265
07:15:51,309 --> 07:15:53,709
separate motions of votes,

13266
07:15:55,447 --> 07:15:56,181
correct One on the remainder of

13267
07:15:56,181 --> 07:15:59,151
the package one ordinance And I

13268
07:15:59,151 --> 07:15:59,851
think I don't think that we can

13269
07:15:59,851 --> 07:16:02,251
bifurcate the ordinance given

13270
07:16:04,589 --> 07:16:07,589
how it's presented and various

13271
07:16:08,827 --> 07:16:09,127
strikeouts for it.

13272
07:16:09,127 --> 07:16:09,794
Okay.

13273
07:16:09,794 --> 07:16:12,794
If it's not possible that's

13274
07:16:14,232 --> 07:16:14,900
where I'm looking to the city

13275
07:16:14,900 --> 07:16:15,233
attorney for city attorney's

13276
07:16:15,233 --> 07:16:15,934
office.

13277
07:16:15,934 --> 07:16:18,334
>> I appreciate you following

13278
07:16:18,737 --> 07:16:19,704
up.

13279
07:16:19,704 --> 07:16:23,904
So I think we're getting a hard

13280
07:16:27,713 --> 07:16:31,313
copy printed again just oh it's

13281
07:16:32,884 --> 07:16:36,484
double file the other day Page

13282
07:17:16,128 --> 07:17:18,128
over

13283
07:17:21,333 --> 07:17:23,333
to public.

13284
07:17:27,139 --> 07:17:27,806
I think we're ready by

13285
07:17:27,806 --> 07:17:28,440
the looks on my colleague's

13286
07:17:28,440 --> 07:17:28,807
faces so no one else is on

13287
07:17:28,807 --> 07:17:29,575
the right.

13288
07:17:29,575 --> 07:17:32,211
We have a motion by council

13289
07:17:32,211 --> 07:17:32,911
member Foster and a second by

13290
07:17:32,911 --> 07:17:35,311
myself for the substitute

13291
07:17:36,415 --> 07:17:37,820
motion shown on the screen or

13292
07:17:37,820 --> 07:17:40,682
in two steps on the screen.

13293
07:17:41,420 --> 07:17:41,787
So City Clerk please call

13294
07:17:41,787 --> 07:17:42,454
the roll.

13295
07:17:42,454 --> 07:17:42,787
>> I have started the voting

13296
07:17:42,787 --> 07:17:43,355
system.

13297
07:17:43,355 --> 07:17:45,457
Please cast your vote.

13298
07:17:45,457 --> 07:17:47,857
Councilmember Campbell I vote

13299
07:17:55,133 --> 07:17:58,733
yes and that passes 5 to 4 with

13300
07:17:59,704 --> 07:18:00,406
Councilmember Whip Burn Lee

13301
07:18:00,406 --> 07:18:01,140
Moreno and Ella Rivera voting

13302
07:18:01,140 --> 07:18:01,573
no Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

13303
07:18:01,573 --> 07:18:03,573
>> All right.

13304
07:18:04,743 --> 07:18:05,444
Thank you City Clerk Believe it

13305
07:18:05,444 --> 07:18:06,212
or not, we actually still have

13306
07:18:06,212 --> 07:18:09,212
a little more business to

13307
07:18:09,714 --> 07:18:10,683
conduct.

13308
07:18:10,683 --> 07:18:14,286
So with that we will now take

13309
07:18:14,286 --> 07:18:15,200
up non agenda public comment.

13310
07:18:15,200 --> 07:18:15,721
The council members respect and

13311
07:18:15,721 --> 07:18:18,121
appreciate the public's input

13312
07:18:19,325 --> 07:18:20,250
and are fully committed to

13313
07:18:20,250 --> 07:18:20,726
protecting every participant's

13314
07:18:20,726 --> 07:18:21,326
free speech rights at council

13315
07:18:21,326 --> 07:18:23,326
and committee meetings.

13316
07:18:24,797 --> 07:18:25,263
Clerk Please proceed with

13317
07:18:25,263 --> 07:18:25,698
public comment.

13318
07:18:25,698 --> 07:18:27,566
>> Thank you.

13319
07:18:27,566 --> 07:18:28,233
Council PRESIDENT Pearl 2.7 on

13320
07:18:28,233 --> 07:18:28,867
Agenda Public comment is an

13321
07:18:28,867 --> 07:18:29,568
opportunity for members of

13322
07:18:29,568 --> 07:18:32,972
the public to comment on items

13323
07:18:32,972 --> 07:18:33,606
that are not on the agenda but

13324
07:18:33,606 --> 07:18:34,206
within the subject matter

13325
07:18:34,206 --> 07:18:34,540
jurisdiction of the City

13326
07:18:34,540 --> 07:18:36,540
Council.

13327
07:18:37,176 --> 07:18:37,509
Each speaker will have two

13328
07:18:37,509 --> 07:18:38,210
minutes.

13329
07:18:38,210 --> 07:18:38,878
Please note if there are eight

13330
07:18:38,878 --> 07:18:39,512
or more speakers on a single

13331
07:18:39,512 --> 07:18:42,114
topic the maximum time for

13332
07:18:42,114 --> 07:18:42,882
the topic will be 16 minutes.

13333
07:18:42,882 --> 07:18:43,549
If you are in chambers please

13334
07:18:43,549 --> 07:18:45,918
submit your speaker slip If

13335
07:18:45,918 --> 07:18:46,719
you're joining us virtually

13336
07:18:46,719 --> 07:18:47,420
please raise your hand to speak

13337
07:18:47,420 --> 07:18:48,530
by tapping the raise your hand

13338
07:18:48,530 --> 07:18:51,653
icon or if you are calling

13339
07:18:51,657 --> 07:18:52,424
participant star nine If I can

13340
07:18:52,424 --> 07:18:55,424
please ask everyone to speak

13341
07:18:56,495 --> 07:18:57,630
Yeah if you could please exit

13342
07:18:57,630 --> 07:18:57,663
quietly Continue your

13343
07:18:57,663 --> 07:18:59,663
conversations outside of

13344
07:19:01,367 --> 07:19:02,334
chambers.

13345
07:19:02,334 --> 07:19:05,938
We do have some we do have some

13346
07:19:05,938 --> 07:19:06,705
folks signed up for non agenda

13347
07:19:06,705 --> 07:19:09,705
public comment We'd like to

13348
07:19:11,611 --> 07:19:12,411
wrap up with Cesar Javier

13349
07:19:12,411 --> 07:19:16,110
Burrito Javier I don't think I

13350
07:19:16,820 --> 07:19:20,282
see them Joyce and yada if you

13351
07:19:20,719 --> 07:19:21,487
can please come forward after

13352
07:19:21,487 --> 07:19:24,990
Joy it will be Andrea Ebbing

13353
07:19:24,990 --> 07:19:25,391
Although I don't think I see

13354
07:19:25,391 --> 07:19:26,240
her either.

13355
07:19:26,240 --> 07:19:26,392
>> Joy Please proceed.

13356
07:19:26,392 --> 07:19:28,392
Thank you.

13357
07:19:30,280 --> 07:19:30,629
City Clerk Fuentes great job.

13358
07:19:30,629 --> 07:19:33,290
Love you so much.

13359
07:19:35,501 --> 07:19:36,202
You're just fabulous.

13360
07:19:36,202 --> 07:19:38,602
And everybody everybody okay,

13361
07:19:39,405 --> 07:19:39,905
Joyce And now to district three

13362
07:19:39,905 --> 07:19:41,905
PRESIDENT LaCava.

13363
07:19:44,510 --> 07:19:44,810
This is for you.

13364
07:19:44,810 --> 07:19:46,810
Okay.

13365
07:19:49,582 --> 07:19:50,316
I apologize to Congress man

13366
07:19:50,316 --> 07:19:53,916
Peters for not including him in

13367
07:19:54,720 --> 07:19:55,200
my committee comments last

13368
07:19:55,200 --> 07:19:56,880
week.

13369
07:19:56,880 --> 07:20:00,326
Here is what I want to say now

13370
07:20:00,326 --> 07:20:02,726
Congress and Scott Peters

13371
07:20:04,764 --> 07:20:06,764
reintroduced the ocean

13372
07:20:09,869 --> 07:20:10,937
Pollution Reduction Act to also

13373
07:20:10,937 --> 07:20:15,740
known as Now Not Now also known

13374
07:20:15,740 --> 07:20:19,144
as o p r a number two.

13375
07:20:19,144 --> 07:20:19,912
I'll say that as opera Opera

13376
07:20:19,912 --> 07:20:22,912
two which simplifies the city

13377
07:20:24,350 --> 07:20:25,118
of San Diego's required

13378
07:20:25,118 --> 07:20:27,518
permitting process to operate

13379
07:20:29,655 --> 07:20:32,655
the point Loma Water treatment

13380
07:20:34,393 --> 07:20:35,161
plant which will allow the city

13381
07:20:35,161 --> 07:20:38,161
to move forward with its

13382
07:20:39,599 --> 07:20:40,466
groundbreaking water recycling

13383
07:20:40,466 --> 07:20:42,866
project Pure Water Congressman

13384
07:20:44,637 --> 07:20:48,837
Peters said this and I quote I

13385
07:20:49,342 --> 07:20:49,942
am working with San Diego's

13386
07:20:49,942 --> 07:20:51,942
congressional delegation

13387
07:20:54,480 --> 07:20:58,680
the city of San Diego and other

13388
07:20:59,384 --> 07:21:02,384
regional partners to make opera

13389
07:21:03,656 --> 07:21:04,230
opera a number two law this

13390
07:21:04,230 --> 07:21:06,230
Congress.

13391
07:21:08,940 --> 07:21:11,964
He wants the law to be made

13392
07:21:11,964 --> 07:21:12,464
this Congress That's 2025 end

13393
07:21:12,464 --> 07:21:14,864
of quote from me.

13394
07:21:16,702 --> 07:21:17,370
I am in the process of getting

13395
07:21:17,370 --> 07:21:20,370
more info on the secondary

13396
07:21:21,700 --> 07:21:21,708
treatment standards and their

13397
07:21:21,708 --> 07:21:22,275
impact on drinking water and

13398
07:21:22,275 --> 07:21:24,275
the ocean environment.

13399
07:21:26,545 --> 07:21:27,513
I look forward to sharing more

13400
07:21:27,513 --> 07:21:31,713
with all of you Love to Thank

13401
07:21:31,750 --> 07:21:32,619
you.

13402
07:21:32,619 --> 07:21:32,952
>> This was an amazing day for

13403
07:21:32,952 --> 07:21:34,952
Andrea.

13404
07:21:36,422 --> 07:21:36,890
Everything Andrea everything.

13405
07:21:36,890 --> 07:21:37,590
Moving on.

13406
07:21:37,590 --> 07:21:38,224
Five minute timer has started

13407
07:21:38,224 --> 07:21:40,624
here in council chambers.

13408
07:21:40,893 --> 07:21:41,261
We have seven speakers in

13409
07:21:41,261 --> 07:21:41,928
the queue.

13410
07:21:41,928 --> 07:21:44,928
Francine Maxwell If you can

13411
07:21:45,665 --> 07:21:46,433
please unmute please proceed.

13412
07:21:46,433 --> 07:21:48,433
>> Good evening Francine

13413
07:21:49,836 --> 07:21:50,537
Maxwell District four Let's be

13414
07:21:50,537 --> 07:21:52,937
clear this isn't about

13415
07:21:54,400 --> 07:21:56,400
homeowners versus renters

13416
07:21:58,944 --> 07:21:59,679
debate it's about fairness.

13417
07:21:59,679 --> 07:22:00,346
Homeowners pay into the general

13418
07:22:00,346 --> 07:22:02,746
fund through property taxes

13419
07:22:04,250 --> 07:22:04,850
covering parks, libraries and

13420
07:22:04,850 --> 07:22:06,850
public safety services.

13421
07:22:09,456 --> 07:22:10,123
Renters benefit without

13422
07:22:10,123 --> 07:22:12,523
shouldering the same burden

13423
07:22:13,660 --> 07:22:14,226
calling it equity is

13424
07:22:14,226 --> 07:22:16,226
the political theater.

13425
07:22:18,598 --> 07:22:19,165
What occurred today when a

13426
07:22:19,165 --> 07:22:21,165
sitting council person

13427
07:22:23,336 --> 07:22:23,803
continually disrespected

13428
07:22:23,803 --> 07:22:24,270
the ordinance is

13429
07:22:24,270 --> 07:22:26,270
unconscionable.

13430
07:22:28,774 --> 07:22:29,476
It shows you the immaturity in

13431
07:22:29,476 --> 07:22:31,876
this progressive diocese that

13432
07:22:33,346 --> 07:22:33,746
continues so that someone won

13433
07:22:33,746 --> 07:22:35,746
reelection.

13434
07:22:38,840 --> 07:22:38,718
It doesn't negate the fact for

13435
07:22:38,718 --> 07:22:39,118
you to be disrespectful to

13436
07:22:39,118 --> 07:22:41,118
the public.

13437
07:22:43,323 --> 07:22:45,323
Let's remember civility.

13438
07:22:47,761 --> 07:22:48,328
Let's remember to agree to

13439
07:22:48,328 --> 07:22:49,228
disagree respectfully.

13440
07:22:49,228 --> 07:22:52,828
But because you get longer than

13441
07:22:53,666 --> 07:22:54,434
everybody and we get 1 minute

13442
07:22:54,434 --> 07:22:56,834
or 2 minute you're continual

13443
07:22:57,203 --> 07:22:58,238
grandstanding.

13444
07:22:58,238 --> 07:23:01,838
It's going to continue for your

13445
07:23:02,676 --> 07:23:03,342
future to turn you around.

13446
07:23:03,342 --> 07:23:05,742
Let's remember not everybody

13447
07:23:06,847 --> 07:23:07,480
can afford a condo that works

13448
07:23:07,480 --> 07:23:07,947
for the city of San Diego

13449
07:23:07,947 --> 07:23:09,947
The Frontliners.

13450
07:23:11,918 --> 07:23:12,585
So let's be more mindful when

13451
07:23:12,585 --> 07:23:16,185
you want to continue to pit

13452
07:23:16,857 --> 07:23:17,223
each other against their

13453
07:23:17,223 --> 07:23:19,223
neighbors.

13454
07:23:21,962 --> 07:23:22,562
Do better San Diego.

13455
07:23:22,562 --> 07:23:22,929
>> That concludes your

13456
07:23:22,929 --> 07:23:23,630
comments.

13457
07:23:23,630 --> 07:23:26,933
The original If you can please

13458
07:23:26,933 --> 07:23:27,501
unmute.

13459
07:23:27,501 --> 07:23:29,501
>> What a circus.

13460
07:23:32,305 --> 07:23:33,600
It's so sad to see the way you

13461
07:23:33,600 --> 07:23:33,673
guys work and then you're like

13462
07:23:33,673 --> 07:23:34,374
telling the people to leave

13463
07:23:34,374 --> 07:23:34,674
because you want to get out of

13464
07:23:34,674 --> 07:23:36,674
here.

13465
07:23:37,443 --> 07:23:38,244
Well you guys sit up there on

13466
07:23:38,244 --> 07:23:38,944
your Dyess and go off on these

13467
07:23:38,944 --> 07:23:41,944
diatribes speaking half a mile

13468
07:23:42,516 --> 07:23:43,183
a minute, you know just

13469
07:23:43,183 --> 07:23:43,850
determining all these things

13470
07:23:43,850 --> 07:23:46,653
for the people And it's sad

13471
07:23:46,653 --> 07:23:47,386
because you do your

13472
07:23:47,386 --> 07:23:50,386
grandstanding and you bring all

13473
07:23:51,424 --> 07:23:52,920
of these things to act like you

13474
07:23:52,920 --> 07:23:52,592
really want people to get in

13475
07:23:52,592 --> 07:23:54,992
and own a home.

13476
07:23:56,829 --> 07:23:57,197
That's not the idea of what's

13477
07:23:57,197 --> 07:23:57,864
going on.

13478
07:23:57,864 --> 07:23:58,365
And then you're complaining

13479
07:23:58,365 --> 07:24:00,365
about no parking.

13480
07:24:00,968 --> 07:24:01,568
It's because you guys are

13481
07:24:01,568 --> 07:24:02,268
getting rid of parking.

13482
07:24:02,268 --> 07:24:05,268
It's like you literally impede

13483
07:24:05,705 --> 07:24:06,406
your own ability of providing

13484
07:24:06,406 --> 07:24:06,807
what needs to be provided for

13485
07:24:06,807 --> 07:24:08,807
the public.

13486
07:24:11,211 --> 07:24:11,778
But you act like you don't know

13487
07:24:11,778 --> 07:24:12,446
where that came from.

13488
07:24:12,446 --> 07:24:14,948
I can't believe that there's

13489
07:24:14,948 --> 07:24:15,448
not this in this because that's

13490
07:24:15,448 --> 07:24:16,116
what you guys do.

13491
07:24:16,116 --> 07:24:17,840
You implement all of these

13492
07:24:17,840 --> 07:24:20,954
things and then it gets in your

13493
07:24:20,954 --> 07:24:21,555
way and you act like I don't

13494
07:24:21,555 --> 07:24:22,222
know how that happened.

13495
07:24:22,222 --> 07:24:22,623
Who are we going to talk to

13496
07:24:22,623 --> 07:24:24,623
about this?

13497
07:24:25,224 --> 07:24:25,926
It's sad because like then you

13498
07:24:25,926 --> 07:24:26,627
also think that if you provide

13499
07:24:26,627 --> 07:24:26,959
more housing it's going to get

13500
07:24:26,959 --> 07:24:28,959
cheaper?

13501
07:24:30,296 --> 07:24:30,664
No, it actually gets more

13502
07:24:30,664 --> 07:24:31,298
expensive.

13503
07:24:31,298 --> 07:24:34,898
And the more that you put

13504
07:24:35,235 --> 07:24:35,935
towards like people in in

13505
07:24:35,935 --> 07:24:36,537
certain areas that are more

13506
07:24:36,537 --> 07:24:37,237
near public transit and

13507
07:24:37,237 --> 07:24:37,537
everything, all of the values

13508
07:24:37,537 --> 07:24:39,537
go up.

13509
07:24:40,440 --> 07:24:41,241
It's like sandag sitting here

13510
07:24:41,241 --> 07:24:41,542
saying we're going to go and do

13511
07:24:41,542 --> 07:24:43,542
value.

13512
07:24:45,412 --> 07:24:46,460
Land value captures by going to

13513
07:24:46,460 --> 07:24:46,680
places that don't have any

13514
07:24:46,680 --> 07:24:49,800
public transit, putting it

13515
07:24:49,716 --> 07:24:50,451
there, capturing the value in

13516
07:24:50,451 --> 07:24:51,118
the land and pocketing that all

13517
07:24:51,118 --> 07:24:54,718
while it makes the people in

13518
07:24:54,822 --> 07:24:55,522
that community suffer because

13519
07:24:55,522 --> 07:24:58,492
all of a sudden there's things

13520
07:24:58,492 --> 07:24:59,193
that are in that community that

13521
07:24:59,193 --> 07:24:59,827
weren't there before and were

13522
07:24:59,827 --> 07:25:00,360
the exact reasons why they

13523
07:25:00,360 --> 07:25:02,760
wanted to be there.

13524
07:25:04,310 --> 07:25:04,732
Just like all of these homes

13525
07:25:04,732 --> 07:25:05,599
that these people have bought

13526
07:25:05,599 --> 07:25:08,902
that thought I want to be in a

13527
07:25:08,902 --> 07:25:09,336
nice little family

13528
07:25:09,336 --> 07:25:10,370
neighborhood.

13529
07:25:10,370 --> 07:25:13,370
And now that's being destroyed

13530
07:25:13,140 --> 07:25:13,807
And you guys wonder why people

13531
07:25:13,807 --> 07:25:14,140
are leaving in astronomical

13532
07:25:14,140 --> 07:25:14,808
numbers.

13533
07:25:14,808 --> 07:25:17,808
It's because of what you're

13534
07:25:18,445 --> 07:25:19,790
doing and not even providing

13535
07:25:19,790 --> 07:25:22,790
what needs to be provided.

13536
07:25:23,149 --> 07:25:23,650
People can't afford to live and

13537
07:25:23,650 --> 07:25:24,350
buy a home.

13538
07:25:24,350 --> 07:25:25,118
They can barely provide what

13539
07:25:25,118 --> 07:25:28,622
they need to for their family

13540
07:25:28,622 --> 07:25:29,456
just to make it.

13541
07:25:29,456 --> 07:25:30,123
And it all has to do with

13542
07:25:30,123 --> 07:25:30,658
the increases that you guys

13543
07:25:30,658 --> 07:25:32,658
continually put out.

13544
07:25:32,793 --> 07:25:33,627
Your time has concluded.

13545
07:25:33,627 --> 07:25:36,627
>> Terence Kelley if you can

13546
07:25:37,664 --> 07:25:38,431
please unmute.

13547
07:25:38,431 --> 07:25:38,765
>> Good evening San Diego City

13548
07:25:38,765 --> 07:25:40,765
Council.

13549
07:25:42,336 --> 07:25:43,136
My name is Terry and Skilling

13550
07:25:43,136 --> 07:25:43,837
and I attend my planning group

13551
07:25:43,837 --> 07:25:46,540
and I'm a community volunteer

13552
07:25:46,540 --> 07:25:47,107
who has worked in youth

13553
07:25:47,107 --> 07:25:49,107
programs for decades.

13554
07:25:50,544 --> 07:25:51,244
Several sources of research

13555
07:25:51,244 --> 07:25:51,979
over the last five years has

13556
07:25:51,979 --> 07:25:54,379
increasingly suggested a strong

13557
07:25:55,616 --> 07:25:56,283
correlation between mental

13558
07:25:56,283 --> 07:25:56,783
health issues and adolescent

13559
07:25:56,783 --> 07:25:58,783
use of marijuana.

13560
07:26:00,754 --> 07:26:01,422
A recent analysis of

13561
07:26:01,422 --> 07:26:04,422
the medical records of over

13562
07:26:05,492 --> 07:26:06,126
95,000 Northern California

13563
07:26:06,126 --> 07:26:08,526
adolescents in the Kaiser

13564
07:26:10,531 --> 07:26:11,131
Permanente Permanente Medical

13565
07:26:11,131 --> 07:26:11,765
care system indicated a

13566
07:26:11,765 --> 07:26:13,765
correlation between having

13567
07:26:15,702 --> 07:26:16,370
marijuana storefronts in town

13568
07:26:16,370 --> 07:26:17,710
and the presence of medical

13569
07:26:17,710 --> 07:26:19,471
diagnosis of psychotic anxiety

13570
07:26:20,700 --> 07:26:20,674
and depressive disorders.

13571
07:26:20,674 --> 07:26:22,674
Specifically this research

13572
07:26:24,911 --> 07:26:25,613
found that banning storefront

13573
07:26:25,613 --> 07:26:26,213
cannabis shops was linked to

13574
07:26:26,213 --> 07:26:29,213
about half the rate of

13575
07:26:30,183 --> 07:26:30,951
psychotic disorders in teens

13576
07:26:30,951 --> 07:26:33,351
52% lower compared to areas

13577
07:26:35,389 --> 07:26:36,257
without bans.

13578
07:26:36,257 --> 07:26:39,493
>> Another way to put it is

13579
07:26:39,493 --> 07:26:40,194
teens who live 20 plus minutes

13580
07:26:40,194 --> 07:26:43,194
away from the nearest cannabis

13581
07:26:44,310 --> 07:26:44,831
store had about half the rate

13582
07:26:44,831 --> 07:26:46,831
of psychotic disorders 47%

13583
07:26:48,803 --> 07:26:49,437
lower since we had 25 marijuana

13584
07:26:49,437 --> 07:26:49,736
storefronts throughout our

13585
07:26:49,736 --> 07:26:50,404
city.

13586
07:26:50,404 --> 07:26:53,404
Perhaps we need to recognize

13587
07:26:53,607 --> 07:26:54,341
the association between their

13588
07:26:54,341 --> 07:26:54,674
presence and teen mental health

13589
07:26:54,674 --> 07:26:56,674
issues.

13590
07:26:58,545 --> 07:26:59,212
The journey into adulthood and

13591
07:26:59,212 --> 07:26:59,813
adulthood with its education

13592
07:26:59,813 --> 07:27:02,213
and economic demands is

13593
07:27:04,840 --> 07:27:04,785
difficult at best to be

13594
07:27:04,785 --> 07:27:05,519
burdened with intellectual and

13595
07:27:05,519 --> 07:27:07,919
emotional challenges brought on

13596
07:27:09,156 --> 07:27:09,789
by the sale of and promotion of

13597
07:27:09,789 --> 07:27:12,189
marijuana products is just

13598
07:27:13,827 --> 07:27:14,595
plain cool.

13599
07:27:14,595 --> 07:27:15,363
>> Now is the time to decrease

13600
07:27:15,363 --> 07:27:18,363
their their influence in our

13601
07:27:19,990 --> 07:27:19,733
city and seek more enforcement

13602
07:27:19,733 --> 07:27:21,733
against illegal marijuana

13603
07:27:23,237 --> 07:27:23,904
delivery services in the city.

13604
07:27:23,904 --> 07:27:24,472
Thank you for hearing my

13605
07:27:24,472 --> 07:27:26,472
concerns this evening.

13606
07:27:29,477 --> 07:27:30,177
Thank you Medicine If you can

13607
07:27:30,177 --> 07:27:32,179
please unmute the phone And a

13608
07:27:32,179 --> 07:27:32,813
timer has also concluded there

13609
07:27:32,813 --> 07:27:33,514
for speakers in the queue.

13610
07:27:33,514 --> 07:27:36,514
No additional speakers will be

13611
07:27:37,518 --> 07:27:37,985
taken after that.

13612
07:27:37,985 --> 07:27:38,419
Please rise.

13613
07:27:38,419 --> 07:27:39,190
Good evening.

13614
07:27:39,190 --> 07:27:41,190
Thanks Council members.

13615
07:27:42,456 --> 07:27:43,230
I'm here tonight to raise a

13616
07:27:43,230 --> 07:27:43,725
growing concern about

13617
07:27:43,725 --> 07:27:44,292
the dramatic rise in nicotine

13618
07:27:44,292 --> 07:27:46,692
patch use among teens

13619
07:27:47,728 --> 07:27:48,496
especially here in San Diego.

13620
07:27:48,496 --> 07:27:51,532
A new national study led by

13621
07:27:51,532 --> 07:27:52,200
the Keck School of Medicine at

13622
07:27:52,200 --> 07:27:52,800
usc found that teen use of

13623
07:27:52,800 --> 07:27:54,800
nicotine patches like

13624
07:27:57,380 --> 07:28:00,638
the popular brand is in nearly

13625
07:28:00,842 --> 07:28:01,576
doubled from 2023 to 2024.

13626
07:28:01,576 --> 07:28:03,976
These discreet flavored pouches

13627
07:28:04,545 --> 07:28:05,313
are being aggressively marketed

13628
07:28:05,313 --> 07:28:08,313
on social media, especially by

13629
07:28:09,583 --> 07:28:10,284
so-called influencers promoting

13630
07:28:10,284 --> 07:28:10,651
them as symbols of confidence

13631
07:28:10,651 --> 07:28:11,319
and focus.

13632
07:28:11,319 --> 07:28:13,719
But there's a dangerous

13633
07:28:14,655 --> 07:28:15,523
disconnect.

13634
07:28:15,523 --> 07:28:18,523
While less than 1% of adults

13635
07:28:19,560 --> 07:28:20,361
report using these pouches over

13636
07:28:20,361 --> 07:28:20,661
5% of teens have already tried

13637
07:28:20,661 --> 07:28:21,228
them.

13638
07:28:21,228 --> 07:28:23,628
Even more troubling is

13639
07:28:24,932 --> 07:28:25,666
the growing number of teens

13640
07:28:25,666 --> 07:28:26,100
using both nicotine pouches and

13641
07:28:26,100 --> 07:28:28,100
e-cigarettes.

13642
07:28:30,337 --> 07:28:30,705
These products are not

13643
07:28:30,705 --> 07:28:31,506
harmless.

13644
07:28:31,506 --> 07:28:34,208
Nicotine in any form can damage

13645
07:28:34,208 --> 07:28:34,908
adolescent brain development

13646
07:28:34,908 --> 07:28:35,276
impacting memory learning and

13647
07:28:35,276 --> 07:28:37,276
attention.

13648
07:28:39,681 --> 07:28:40,281
Some users already report gum

13649
07:28:40,281 --> 07:28:42,681
damage and mouth sores.

13650
07:28:44,319 --> 07:28:44,951
Yet flavored varieties like

13651
07:28:44,951 --> 07:28:45,653
cinnamon and fruit remain

13652
07:28:45,653 --> 07:28:48,530
widely available and appealing

13653
07:28:49,290 --> 07:28:50,570
to youth.

13654
07:28:50,570 --> 07:28:50,625
As local leaders you have a

13655
07:28:50,625 --> 07:28:52,625
responsibility to act.

13656
07:28:54,762 --> 07:28:55,463
I urge this Council to consider

13657
07:28:55,463 --> 07:28:55,797
local education efforts in our

13658
07:28:55,797 --> 07:28:57,797
schools.

13659
07:28:59,600 --> 07:29:00,301
Restrictions on flavored pouch

13660
07:29:00,301 --> 07:29:03,301
sales and outreach to parents

13661
07:29:03,604 --> 07:29:04,471
and health care providers.

13662
07:29:04,471 --> 07:29:04,941
Let's not wait for this to

13663
07:29:04,941 --> 07:29:05,573
become a crisis.

13664
07:29:05,573 --> 07:29:07,973
We've already seen what's

13665
07:29:08,743 --> 07:29:09,510
happened with vaping.

13666
07:29:09,510 --> 07:29:10,211
So let's use that lesson to

13667
07:29:10,211 --> 07:29:13,211
protect San Diego's youth now.

13668
07:29:14,182 --> 07:29:14,549
Thank you.

13669
07:29:14,549 --> 07:29:15,115
Thank you.

13670
07:29:15,115 --> 07:29:17,515
Next is Blair Pigman.

13671
07:29:17,952 --> 07:29:18,453
If he can please unmute.

13672
07:29:18,453 --> 07:29:20,453
>> Hi.

13673
07:29:23,224 --> 07:29:23,992
We're big band.

13674
07:29:23,992 --> 07:29:24,425
I fell asleep during my public

13675
07:29:24,425 --> 07:29:24,926
comment time.

13676
07:29:24,926 --> 07:29:26,926
I'm really sorry.

13677
07:29:27,962 --> 07:29:28,829
I wanted to speak.

13678
07:29:28,829 --> 07:29:29,970
I don't know if I can speak

13679
07:29:29,970 --> 07:29:31,970
now.

13680
07:29:31,699 --> 07:29:32,667
I'll probably have to wait

13681
07:29:32,667 --> 07:29:36,867
until later but I think a lot

13682
07:29:37,372 --> 07:29:37,705
of good work was done here

13683
07:29:37,705 --> 07:29:38,473
tonight.

13684
07:29:38,473 --> 07:29:42,343
I think a lot of good attempts

13685
07:29:42,343 --> 07:29:43,111
and a reminder every major city

13686
07:29:43,111 --> 07:29:46,111
in California is having serious

13687
07:29:47,849 --> 07:29:48,516
issues the same as yourself.

13688
07:29:48,516 --> 07:29:49,149
We're incredibly unorganized

13689
07:29:49,149 --> 07:29:52,686
and don't know what to do.

13690
07:29:52,686 --> 07:29:53,421
And you guys are trying to

13691
07:29:53,421 --> 07:29:53,888
define that more than any other

13692
07:29:53,888 --> 07:29:55,888
California city.

13693
07:29:57,525 --> 07:29:58,590
You're setting the example.

13694
07:29:58,590 --> 07:30:00,590
Thank you immensely.

13695
07:30:02,263 --> 07:30:03,300
I mean you can make me cry and

13696
07:30:03,300 --> 07:30:03,631
thinking that we hit we missed.

13697
07:30:03,631 --> 07:30:06,310
We keep on working.

13698
07:30:06,266 --> 07:30:06,968
I want to keep on working on

13699
07:30:06,968 --> 07:30:07,402
these things and talking about

13700
07:30:07,402 --> 07:30:08,102
these things.

13701
07:30:08,102 --> 07:30:11,506
Good luck in your efforts so I

13702
07:30:11,506 --> 07:30:11,940
can better learn and understand

13703
07:30:11,940 --> 07:30:12,974
these things.

13704
07:30:12,974 --> 07:30:17,174
What we do did as a community

13705
07:30:17,312 --> 07:30:17,812
practice I hope we can apply to

13706
07:30:17,812 --> 07:30:18,480
the trash issues.

13707
07:30:18,480 --> 07:30:20,880
You're doing some beginning

13708
07:30:21,782 --> 07:30:22,383
good work to to invite

13709
07:30:22,383 --> 07:30:23,251
community to a process.

13710
07:30:23,251 --> 07:30:25,620
I think we have to continue

13711
07:30:25,620 --> 07:30:26,387
the effort.

13712
07:30:26,387 --> 07:30:26,921
Then we are talking about a

13713
07:30:26,921 --> 07:30:28,921
community democracy.

13714
07:30:30,758 --> 07:30:31,459
We're talking about all parts

13715
07:30:31,459 --> 07:30:32,127
of the community adding their

13716
07:30:32,127 --> 07:30:35,727
voice and ideas to a process

13717
07:30:36,131 --> 07:30:36,865
and I think we're starting

13718
07:30:36,865 --> 07:30:39,265
something really interesting in

13719
07:30:41,360 --> 07:30:41,403
San Diego that I hope we can

13720
07:30:41,403 --> 07:30:42,136
continue.

13721
07:30:42,136 --> 07:30:42,837
And I hope that eventually ends

13722
07:30:42,837 --> 07:30:45,473
up with the technology issues

13723
07:30:45,473 --> 07:30:46,174
and we can be more open and

13724
07:30:46,174 --> 07:30:46,808
clear and interesting that we

13725
07:30:46,808 --> 07:30:49,208
can have that conversation

13726
07:30:50,612 --> 07:30:51,213
openly And it doesn't have to

13727
07:30:51,213 --> 07:30:51,913
be feared that it's some

13728
07:30:51,913 --> 07:30:54,913
national security drama and we

13729
07:30:55,650 --> 07:30:56,518
can't talk about it.

13730
07:30:56,518 --> 07:30:57,520
We can talk about it and we

13731
07:30:57,520 --> 07:30:59,452
could talk about it.

13732
07:31:00,322 --> 07:31:00,822
That's building our responsible

13733
07:31:00,822 --> 07:31:01,489
future.

13734
07:31:01,489 --> 07:31:02,157
We're trying to do that.

13735
07:31:02,157 --> 07:31:04,192
Keep up the good work, guys.

13736
07:31:04,192 --> 07:31:04,893
It's really hard work and

13737
07:31:04,893 --> 07:31:05,260
you're doing it really well.

13738
07:31:05,260 --> 07:31:07,260
Thank you.

13739
07:31:10,640 --> 07:31:10,799
And with my remaining time, I

13740
07:31:10,799 --> 07:31:11,800
want to build the future of San

13741
07:31:11,800 --> 07:31:14,502
Diego where we have I do not do

13742
07:31:14,502 --> 07:31:15,236
those paramilitary tactics.

13743
07:31:15,236 --> 07:31:18,236
They can't do that anymore.

13744
07:31:19,274 --> 07:31:19,774
They can do their ai things but

13745
07:31:19,774 --> 07:31:20,307
not paramilitary.

13746
07:31:20,307 --> 07:31:22,707
Let's work on that.

13747
07:31:24,246 --> 07:31:24,712
Thank you.

13748
07:31:24,712 --> 07:31:25,480
Thank you.

13749
07:31:25,480 --> 07:31:26,347
Next is phone number ending in

13750
07:31:26,347 --> 07:31:29,347
1672 If you can please unmute

13751
07:31:30,986 --> 07:31:31,352
1672.

13752
07:31:31,352 --> 07:31:32,220
>> Okay.

13753
07:31:32,220 --> 07:31:35,220
Oh Blair Anyways every single

13754
07:31:36,291 --> 07:31:37,580
person sitting on the dais no

13755
07:31:37,580 --> 07:31:40,658
matter how smug or detached you

13756
07:31:41,129 --> 07:31:41,730
MAY appear you too will

13757
07:31:41,730 --> 07:31:44,130
eventually be victims of

13758
07:31:44,933 --> 07:31:45,533
the very policies that you push

13759
07:31:45,533 --> 07:31:46,134
whether it's inflation,

13760
07:31:46,134 --> 07:31:48,134
surveillance, overreach,

13761
07:31:50,305 --> 07:31:51,600
housing chaos or suicide social

13762
07:31:51,600 --> 07:31:51,305
decay It's just a matter of

13763
07:31:51,305 --> 07:31:53,305
time.

13764
07:31:55,243 --> 07:31:55,844
You are not protected.

13765
07:31:55,844 --> 07:31:56,345
You are not above

13766
07:31:56,345 --> 07:31:58,345
the consequences.

13767
07:32:00,482 --> 07:32:00,884
So ask yourselves what will be

13768
07:32:00,884 --> 07:32:01,549
your legacy?

13769
07:32:01,549 --> 07:32:02,170
What do you want to be

13770
07:32:02,170 --> 07:32:04,170
remembered for?

13771
07:32:05,653 --> 07:32:06,321
Obedience to a corrupt system

13772
07:32:06,321 --> 07:32:09,321
or courage to stand with

13773
07:32:10,592 --> 07:32:11,293
the people and to the public

13774
07:32:11,293 --> 07:32:14,293
Watching the few still putting

13775
07:32:14,762 --> 07:32:15,464
blind faith in this machine

13776
07:32:15,464 --> 07:32:18,464
that continues to fail them

13777
07:32:19,801 --> 07:32:20,135
Wake up the system is not

13778
07:32:20,135 --> 07:32:20,836
broken.

13779
07:32:20,836 --> 07:32:23,836
It's functioning exactly as it

13780
07:32:24,673 --> 07:32:25,373
was designed to exploit, to

13781
07:32:25,373 --> 07:32:28,577
exhaust you, to pacify you and

13782
07:32:28,577 --> 07:32:29,770
keep you just comfortable

13783
07:32:29,770 --> 07:32:29,644
enough to obey.

13784
07:32:29,644 --> 07:32:32,440
You've gotten used to

13785
07:32:33,715 --> 07:32:34,148
the trauma you've normalized

13786
07:32:34,148 --> 07:32:34,749
the abuse.

13787
07:32:34,749 --> 07:32:35,383
This is evident homeless

13788
07:32:35,383 --> 07:32:37,783
veterans on every corner

13789
07:32:39,540 --> 07:32:39,688
families choosing between food

13790
07:32:39,688 --> 07:32:40,222
and rent, mental illness,

13791
07:32:40,222 --> 07:32:42,222
addiction, despair.

13792
07:32:44,659 --> 07:32:45,527
This is not bad luck.

13793
07:32:45,527 --> 07:32:49,300
It's policy And you push it on

13794
07:32:49,300 --> 07:32:49,831
the diet, you push it and still

13795
07:32:49,831 --> 07:32:50,699
most people don't care until it

13796
07:32:50,699 --> 07:32:54,299
hits their own doorstep Then it

13797
07:32:54,303 --> 07:32:54,970
will eventually the government

13798
07:32:54,970 --> 07:32:57,970
will come knocking on their

13799
07:32:58,406 --> 07:32:58,707
door and by then it MAY be too

13800
07:32:58,707 --> 07:32:59,274
late.

13801
07:32:59,274 --> 07:32:59,875
This is not normal.

13802
07:32:59,875 --> 07:33:02,275
This is not freedom.

13803
07:33:03,245 --> 07:33:03,979
This is an Orwellian dystopia

13804
07:33:03,979 --> 07:33:06,979
dressed up as civic progress

13805
07:33:08,583 --> 07:33:09,251
and far too many have learned

13806
07:33:09,251 --> 07:33:09,918
to love their servitude for

13807
07:33:09,918 --> 07:33:12,318
the right price politicians

13808
07:33:14,220 --> 07:33:14,756
will sell out the people for

13809
07:33:14,756 --> 07:33:15,123
the right illusion of safety or

13810
07:33:15,123 --> 07:33:17,123
stability.

13811
07:33:17,926 --> 07:33:18,426
The people will sell out their

13812
07:33:18,426 --> 07:33:20,826
souls but no more.

13813
07:33:22,931 --> 07:33:23,699
The time is now.

13814
07:33:23,699 --> 07:33:24,433
It's time to make a shift.

13815
07:33:24,433 --> 07:33:28,330
It's time to reclaim our lives

13816
07:33:28,237 --> 07:33:28,971
because this isn't living.

13817
07:33:28,971 --> 07:33:31,971
It's surviving And a controlled

13818
07:33:32,207 --> 07:33:33,750
collapse is not.

13819
07:33:33,750 --> 07:33:33,942
Your time is up Maria your

13820
07:33:33,942 --> 07:33:37,542
final speaker If you can please

13821
07:33:40,449 --> 07:33:42,449
unmute you.

13822
07:33:45,421 --> 07:33:46,221
>> Hi, this is Maria's husband

13823
07:33:46,221 --> 07:33:49,221
But anyway anyway I'm calling

13824
07:33:50,825 --> 07:33:51,226
I'm we're what's going on with

13825
07:33:51,226 --> 07:33:53,226
this thing?

13826
07:33:54,730 --> 07:33:55,331
We can hear you.

13827
07:33:55,331 --> 07:33:55,630
>> Please proceed.

13828
07:33:55,630 --> 07:33:57,630
Okay.

13829
07:33:59,634 --> 07:34:03,706
Hey, I just wanted to say about

13830
07:34:03,706 --> 07:34:04,573
the footnote seven we want to

13831
07:34:04,573 --> 07:34:05,373
just put in our word that those

13832
07:34:05,373 --> 07:34:08,373
two projects that were passed

13833
07:34:09,344 --> 07:34:10,212
under the existence of footnote

13834
07:34:10,212 --> 07:34:13,812
seven should be rejected or any

13835
07:34:14,450 --> 07:34:15,830
permitting that is on the table

13836
07:34:15,830 --> 07:34:17,483
about those two projects.

13837
07:34:18,621 --> 07:34:21,621
The memory Lane project and

13838
07:34:23,626 --> 07:34:24,526
the Clabber three project.

13839
07:34:24,526 --> 07:34:25,226
It seems to me that it was not

13840
07:34:25,226 --> 07:34:25,728
best practices and that it was

13841
07:34:25,728 --> 07:34:27,728
actually illegal.

13842
07:34:28,664 --> 07:34:29,430
The insertion of that footnote

13843
07:34:29,430 --> 07:34:32,430
and that any building or

13844
07:34:33,868 --> 07:34:34,570
construction that is using put

13845
07:34:34,570 --> 07:34:37,570
that footnote is also illegal.

13846
07:34:39,275 --> 07:34:40,420
So I want to urge the City

13847
07:34:40,420 --> 07:34:43,445
council and air who I still

13848
07:34:43,445 --> 07:34:47,645
don't know if if he signed off

13849
07:34:48,349 --> 07:34:51,949
on that whether or not he

13850
07:34:53,550 --> 07:34:54,230
didn't sign off on it anyway.

13851
07:34:54,230 --> 07:34:54,623
>> I just feel like you guys

13852
07:34:54,623 --> 07:34:57,623
are kicking the can down

13853
07:34:57,660 --> 07:34:58,360
the road and you're just it's a

13854
07:34:58,360 --> 07:35:01,360
big waiting game And meanwhile

13855
07:35:02,564 --> 07:35:03,264
I hear people on on that board

13856
07:35:03,264 --> 07:35:06,769
saying oh yeah and we really

13857
07:35:06,769 --> 07:35:07,469
need to change your as one

13858
07:35:07,469 --> 07:35:08,237
zoning and blah blah blah Oh

13859
07:35:08,237 --> 07:35:12,108
and how all the footnote was a

13860
07:35:12,108 --> 07:35:13,750
good thing or you know but I

13861
07:35:13,750 --> 07:35:16,110
just wanted to put in my my

13862
07:35:16,110 --> 07:35:16,711
rejection in my of those two

13863
07:35:16,711 --> 07:35:19,111
projects that were inserted

13864
07:35:21,150 --> 07:35:24,150
illegally and do not have

13865
07:35:25,754 --> 07:35:26,880
the correct zoning for our area

13866
07:35:26,880 --> 07:35:26,788
.

13867
07:35:26,788 --> 07:35:27,560
That concludes your comments.

13868
07:35:27,560 --> 07:35:29,560
Yes.

13869
07:35:31,560 --> 07:35:32,194
And that concludes on agenda

13870
07:35:32,194 --> 07:35:32,528
public comment for today's

13871
07:35:32,528 --> 07:35:33,195
meeting.

13872
07:35:33,195 --> 07:35:33,496
>> The Council PRESIDENT All

13873
07:35:33,496 --> 07:35:33,863
right.

13874
07:35:33,863 --> 07:35:35,630
Thank you.

13875
07:35:35,630 --> 07:35:36,431
City Clerk.

13876
07:35:36,431 --> 07:35:37,166
There's not really a protocol

13877
07:35:37,166 --> 07:35:40,166
COUNCILMAN Rivera Just would if

13878
07:35:41,170 --> 07:35:41,937
I could record a yes vote on

13879
07:35:41,937 --> 07:35:42,438
item 200 and he has voted item

13880
07:35:42,438 --> 07:35:42,805
to a one, please.

13881
07:35:42,805 --> 07:35:44,805
Oh, okay.

13882
07:35:45,675 --> 07:35:46,342
You got that?

13883
07:35:46,342 --> 07:35:47,760
All right with that, does

13884
07:35:47,760 --> 07:35:47,709
the city attorney have anything

13885
07:35:47,709 --> 07:35:50,546
to report out from closed

13886
07:35:50,546 --> 07:35:51,313
session?

13887
07:35:51,313 --> 07:35:51,947
>> There is nothing to report

13888
07:35:51,947 --> 07:35:52,314
from closed session today.

13889
07:35:52,314 --> 07:35:52,848
All right.

13890
07:35:52,848 --> 07:35:55,248
Thank you for that.

13891
07:35:56,419 --> 07:35:57,286
So given the hour, I do want to

13892
07:35:57,286 --> 07:36:00,286
thank City 24 for keeping us

13893
07:36:01,223 --> 07:36:02,580
online in our executive detail

13894
07:36:02,580 --> 07:36:06,950
for keeping us safe And to my

13895
07:36:06,950 --> 07:36:06,796
council colleagues and all

13896
07:36:06,796 --> 07:36:07,429
the members of the public that

13897
07:36:07,429 --> 07:36:09,866
showed up very, very much

13898
07:36:09,866 --> 07:36:10,499
appreciate your attention to

13899
07:36:10,499 --> 07:36:11,660
something that was clearly

13900
07:36:11,660 --> 07:36:11,801
important to our city.

13901
07:36:11,801 --> 07:36:15,137
We will now adjourn Council to

13902
07:36:15,137 --> 07:36:15,905
the next regularly regular

13903
07:36:15,905 --> 07:36:18,905
council meeting on Tuesday JUNE

13904
07:36:19,675 --> 07:36:22,750
17th, 2025 at 10 A.M..

13905
07:36:22,411 --> 07:36:22,778
That is 12 hours and 25 minutes

13906
07:36:22,778 --> 07:36:24,778
from now.