[11:11] council Ron Wolfram I'd
[11:14] like to do a magic I am here.
[11:15] >> Can you all hear me?
[11:15] Yes we can.
[11:16] Thank you so much.
[12:57] Thank you
[14:19] for doing
[14:19] it.
[14:19] >> Okay.
[14:20] Good morning and welcome back.
[14:23] After our legislative recess.
[14:24] I will now call the city
[14:25] council meeting on Monday,
[14:28] AUGUST 24th, 2026 to order
[14:29] Clerk Please call the roll.
[14:29] >> Thank you.
[14:30] Council PRESIDENT Council
[14:33] Member Campbell.
[14:34] Council Member Whitburn here.
[14:34] Council Member Foster.
[14:39] Council Member Von Wilpert for
[14:39] or.
[14:42] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[14:43] here.
[14:43] Council Member Campo here.
[14:44] Council Member Moreno
[14:44] PRESIDENT.
[14:48] Council Member Isla Rivera and
[14:49] Council PRESIDENT LaCava.
[14:49] Present Also attending
[14:53] the meeting Our city Attorney
[14:54] Heather Ferber, independent
[14:54] budget analyst Charles Monica
[14:55] and myself your city clerk
[14:58] Diana Fuentes.
[14:59] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.
[14:59] All right.
[14:59] Thank you.
[15:00] City Clerk and council member
[15:01] Vaughn Wolpert, would you like
[15:03] to make your statement at this
[15:03] point?
[15:04] >> Yes, Thank you very much.
[15:05] I am notifying the council that
[15:08] I will be attending the meeting
[15:08] today remotely due to medical
[15:09] accommodations pursuant to
[15:12] the Brown Act I am disclosing
[15:13] that there are no individuals
[15:14] over the age of 18 or older
[15:14] present in the room with me.
[15:18] I will update this disclosure
[15:19] to changes during the course of
[15:19] the meeting.
[15:19] Thank you.
[15:20] All right.
[15:23] Thank you very much And take
[15:24] care of yourself.
[15:24] A quorum is now present.
[15:25] Invocation.
[15:28] We will begin this morning with
[15:29] the invocation by Clarke 20th
[15:29] followed with the land
[15:30] acknowledgment and the Pledge
[15:31] of Allegiance led by counsel
[15:36] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Grant
[15:37] Those who hold office in this
[15:41] city the spirit of wisdom,
[15:42] charity and justice that was
[15:43] steadfast purpose.
[15:43] They MAY faithfully serve in
[15:45] their offices to promote
[15:51] the well-being of all people.
[15:51] >> We respectfully acknowledge
[15:52] that the communication or
[15:53] the original inhabitants of
[15:56] the Unceded land now known as
[15:56] San Diego Despite enduring
[15:57] the horrors of genocide and
[15:58] colonization, the ice spirit
[16:01] remains and broken.
[16:02] We honor the resilience of
[16:02] their ancestors who fought to
[16:06] protect their land and culture
[16:07] today to carry their legacy
[16:08] forward, ensuring that their
[16:08] traditions continue to thrive
[16:12] in gratitude and strength.
[16:13] We stand with the nation
[16:13] connected to our past and
[16:17] committed to a thriving future
[16:18] .
[16:18] If you please face the flag
[16:19] join me in the Pledge of
[16:21] Allegiance Again, I pledge
[16:22] allegiance to the flag of
[16:22] the United States of America
[16:27] and to the Republic for which
[16:28] it stands one nation under GOD,
[16:28] indivisible, with liberty and
[16:35] justice for all.
[16:40] City Clerk Please go over how
[16:41] the public can offer their
[16:41] testimony.
[16:42] >> Thank you.
[16:43] I'd like to highlight the slide
[16:43] on the screen that does review
[16:47] how the public can offer their
[16:47] public testimony during today's
[16:48] meeting.
[16:48] If you are in person please go
[16:49] to the speaker site located at
[16:51] the entrance of chambers and
[16:52] submit it at the front of
[16:52] the room in the clear box.
[16:56] No further in-person testimony
[16:57] will be taken once the Council
[16:58] begins virtual testimony for
[17:01] better meeting management
[17:01] purposes each speaker will have
[17:02] one minute per item per person
[17:03] up to a maximum of three
[17:07] minutes if there are three or
[17:07] more items on the closed
[17:08] session agenda.
[17:09] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.
[17:09] All right.
[17:11] Thank you Shelley Hawkins.
[17:12] With that please read
[17:12] the closed session items into
[17:13] the record.
[17:14] Conference with Legal Counsel
[17:17] existing Litigation pursuant to
[17:17] California Government Code
[17:21] Section 5495 6.90 161 Venue
[17:22] versus City of San Diego.
[17:22] Conference with Labor
[17:27] Negotiators pursuant to
[17:28] California Government Code
[17:31] Section 54957.662 The City
[17:32] Designated Management Team
[17:33] Representatives Conference with
[17:33] legal counsel significant
[17:37] exposure to litigation pursuant
[17:37] to California Government Code
[17:42] Section 5495 6.90 263 Number of
[17:43] claims to Conference Legal
[17:43] Counsel Existing litigation
[17:46] proceed to California
[17:47] Government Code Section 5495
[17:48] 6.91 Is this for labor law
[17:52] versus City of San Diego Those
[17:52] participating virtually that
[17:53] are part of an organized
[17:58] presentation.
[17:59] We do not have any organized
[17:59] presentations for the closed
[18:00] session agenda.
[18:01] Sorry for reading no worries
[18:03] with that please proceed with
[18:04] public comment.
[18:04] >> Thank you.
[18:05] We do have one person here and
[18:10] public comment Jesse Connor for
[18:10] c.
[18:11] S two If you can please come up
[18:11] to the microphone You will have
[18:12] one minute.
[18:12] Please proceed.
[18:17] Good morning MR. Chair.
[18:18] Honorable Council Jesse Carter
[18:18] Vice PRESIDENT Firefighters
[18:19] Local 145 speaking on item c
[18:21] has to in 2016 firefighters
[18:22] negotiate for an option to
[18:23] establish a medical veba for
[18:23] its membership a tax exempt
[18:28] trust to provide health care a
[18:28] benefit enjoyed by many groups
[18:29] across the state.
[18:30] We spent thousands of dollars
[18:33] on recognized experts as
[18:34] required by city attorney and
[18:34] risk management to demonstrate
[18:35] both the legality and
[18:36] the viability of such a plan.
[18:39] The city reaffirmed that option
[18:40] by approving it multiple mou
[18:40] cents.
[18:41] Now when firefighters here are
[18:46] ranked 23rd of 23 departments
[18:47] surveyed when firefighters
[18:47] would be going to work for
[18:48] the last 55 days without a
[18:51] contract, the city's
[18:52] negotiating team appears to be
[18:52] holding a new contract hostage
[18:53] on the premise that
[18:54] firefighters must agree to have
[18:58] this benefit stripped.
[18:58] This cost the city nothing.
[18:59] It already exists in our mou.
[19:00] We're no more important than
[19:03] other city employees but
[19:04] sometimes our needs are
[19:04] different.
[19:05] We should be allowed to pursue
[19:06] our needs just as other groups.
[19:06] We're not here to ask for
[19:09] anything more than what you've
[19:10] already approved.
[19:10] We respectfully request you
[19:11] preserve the status quo with
[19:12] regard to firefighter medical
[19:15] plan options Do not strike this
[19:16] language from our contract.
[19:16] >> Thank you very much.
[19:17] Thank you.
[19:17] That does include public
[19:21] comment here in council
[19:22] chambers have started the five
[19:22] minute timer going to those
[19:23] participating remotely.
[19:26] We currently have five people
[19:27] in the queue.
[19:27] When I unmute you please be
[19:28] sure to let me know which item
[19:34] or items you wish to speak to.
[19:34] >> Blair Beckman if you can
[19:35] please on you.
[19:38] All right, we're going to
[19:39] please you.
[19:39] >> Please proceed.
[19:40] You'll have one minute.
[19:40] Thank you.
[19:44] We're really nice public
[19:45] comment previously Thank you.
[19:50] I think it's worth debating,
[19:50] you know the future of benefits
[19:51] for San Diego employees.
[19:56] I've been learning really
[19:56] important lessons.
[19:57] We don't cut benefits.
[19:57] I think that's really
[19:58] important.
[20:02] Oakland is trying to do
[20:03] the same thing because you know
[20:04] there are serious budget issues
[20:04] they have They're doing
[20:08] the same thing the same thing
[20:08] to their city workers.
[20:09] I think it's a really wrong way
[20:09] to go.
[20:14] I really ask yourselves again
[20:15] to consider the idea of our
[20:19] city workers taking a 25 to $50
[20:20] pay cut a month That's like
[20:24] $600 a year And that actually
[20:25] brings a budget savings of
[20:25] close to 1 or $2 million.
[20:26] Can you please consider that
[20:31] option and keep our benefits?
[20:31] I think benefits are vitally
[20:32] important.
[20:33] Good luck to consider such an
[20:37] option for a future.
[20:37] >> Thank you.
[20:38] Thank you Million Mile Man If
[20:39] you can please unmute and let
[20:42] me know which item or items you
[20:43] wish to speak to.
[20:43] >> Are you on public?
[20:48] No we're on closed session
[20:48] agenda.
[20:49] >> Okay well then I would like
[20:54] to weigh in on what I just
[20:55] heard from You'll have one
[20:56] minute to speak on the agenda
[21:01] on the firefighter.
[21:02] Look, you know, it doesn't take
[21:06] a lot of intelligence to
[21:07] understand that you give
[21:07] the firefighters what they
[21:07] want.
[21:12] I mean, look at not only have
[21:13] they paid their dues and
[21:17] society, not only have they
[21:18] paid their dues too to humanity
[21:24] but they are deserving of of
[21:24] what they want, period.
[21:25] And it doesn't take much to
[21:26] understand it.
[21:30] This is all about common sense
[21:30] and that's all I have to say.
[21:36] But GOD bless all of those
[21:37] fellows that work in the San
[21:42] Diego rescue and lifeguarding
[21:43] and police and public safety.
[21:44] My GOD they can you imagine
[21:48] doing their job?
[21:49] i mean I can't imagine and I'll
[21:50] probably need them one day.
[21:54] So I hope not.
[21:55] But anyway, if you can hear me,
[22:00] MR. Connor man keep up the good
[22:00] work.
[22:01] >> I've got your back.
[22:01] Thank you.
[22:02] Thank you.
[22:02] Next to the original if you can
[22:07] please on mute and let me know
[22:08] which item or items you wish to
[22:08] speak to.
[22:09] I'm going to tap on all of it.
[22:12] You'll have three minutes.
[22:12] >> Please proceed.
[22:13] I really appreciate when people
[22:14] come in and give you their
[22:17] insight on what's really going
[22:18] on with these contracts and
[22:18] the fact that there's many of
[22:19] these employees that have been
[22:23] working uncontracted waiting
[22:23] to, you know, get things back
[22:29] over center.
[22:30] It's a little bit sad to think
[22:30] that, you know, that could be
[22:31] abused in such a way to have
[22:35] their benefits taken kind of
[22:36] force them to sign a contract
[22:41] which in that that would be
[22:42] null and void because you can't
[22:43] be forced to sign something.
[22:43] But you know, as we're talking
[22:47] about labor negotiations, it's
[22:47] a little bit interesting to see
[22:48] what's happening with
[22:49] the litigation with that and
[22:49] where you're going to be
[22:53] bringing in you know,
[22:54] discussing labor negotiations
[22:58] And when we have issues like
[22:59] this going on and for such a
[23:00] significant importance position
[23:05] because these guys do work that
[23:05] you know most people won't do
[23:06] but we need them And I feel
[23:11] like they get treated kind of
[23:11] you know, like they get
[23:12] the leftovers Whatever's left
[23:17] over after you know, you give
[23:18] all your employees in the city
[23:18] that are working with you guys
[23:22] all of their money, all of
[23:23] their benefits And then we have
[23:24] people that are on the job that
[23:28] are physically exerting a lot
[23:29] of energy and potentially, you
[23:30] know, getting injuries that
[23:34] nobody else that worked in
[23:35] the city are going to get And
[23:35] then we're cutting their
[23:36] benefits like they should
[23:36] actually have more.
[23:40] And if you do have to take from
[23:41] some of those employees that
[23:42] have been getting, you know,
[23:46] these significant pay raises
[23:47] that potentially, you know,
[23:48] work for the mayor or your
[23:48] guys's staff, I mean I think
[23:52] that these people deserve
[23:53] benefits over that pay raise
[23:54] that those people are getting.
[23:54] So if we have to make some hard
[23:58] choices, that's what needs to
[23:58] be done.
[23:59] And so I hope you guys do
[23:59] the right thing because you
[24:00] know, when they when you need
[24:05] them you're not going to want
[24:05] to, you know, have made a
[24:06] mistake for over a minute on
[24:06] that topic.
[24:10] On to another item There's two
[24:10] labor negotiation or one about
[24:15] fire and lifeguards and one
[24:15] about labor negotiations.
[24:16] So there's two of them in
[24:16] there.
[24:17] So thank you.
[24:20] But I'm going to keep going And
[24:21] for the other two with the trip
[24:26] and fall in the bike accident
[24:26] you guys need to you're with
[24:27] the way that you were telling
[24:32] us on the regular agenda how
[24:32] much the settlements are.
[24:33] It's no longer visible in just
[24:34] the itemized items.
[24:37] i think you guys need to bring
[24:38] that back so it can be
[24:39] transparent just right off
[24:39] the bat without having to go in
[24:43] search for the amount of money
[24:44] .
[24:45] And I think you guys need to do
[24:45] some kind of tally where you're
[24:49] saying this this year or this
[24:50] And all time we have spent on
[24:51] litigation for trip and falls
[24:55] for bike accidents for whatever
[24:56] and then show that you have
[24:56] gone into those areas where
[24:57] those accidents occurred and
[25:01] that has been mitigated and how
[25:02] much it cost to do that and
[25:07] what the cost benefit ratio is
[25:08] of you know the litigation and
[25:08] we're just fixing the roads and
[25:09] making sure that this kind of
[25:13] stuff doesn't happen on a
[25:14] continual revolving door basis.
[25:19] >> Our next week is 8700 if you
[25:20] can please I'm you and let me
[25:20] know which item or items you
[25:22] wish to speak to.
[25:23] The five minute timer also
[25:24] concluded we have one
[25:24] additional speaker after
[25:25] the speaker and no other
[25:26] speakers will be taken.
[25:27] >> Please let me know which
[25:27] items and proceed.
[25:32] Yes.
[25:33] >> One, two and three You'll
[25:34] have three minutes.
[25:39] Please proceed.
[25:40] Thank you, Julius And to
[25:41] welcome back everybody on c.
[25:44] S one which is another trip and
[25:45] fall I came up with this
[25:50] thinking on the agenda and
[25:51] feeling involved to then you
[25:56] Who is the one suing the city
[25:57] is a metaphor as all these
[26:02] people are that they have these
[26:03] suits against the city
[26:03] entrepreneurs.
[26:08] You're really a metaphor for
[26:08] this city is tripping and
[26:09] falling and tripping and
[26:13] falling on a public system for
[26:14] sidewalk maintenance and of
[26:19] course many, many other things
[26:19] .
[26:20] So I think it's a powerful way
[26:21] to look at this and to know
[26:25] that we're doing our best, that
[26:26] we are improving Regarding
[26:27] the sidewalks, that's for sure.
[26:33] I like this metaphor and it's
[26:34] just continuing and we need to
[26:34] just keep on top of
[26:38] the discussion We can see as to
[26:39] I'm not quite clear on
[26:40] the details of this item's
[26:43] purpose here and the speakers
[26:44] speak some very powerful words.
[26:49] I really respect and honor our
[26:50] and we'll use the memorandums
[26:51] of understanding.
[26:55] I think they're very powerful
[26:56] For some reason I really put my
[26:56] arms around the animal use and
[27:01] embrace them as a very positive
[27:02] support system for all of our
[27:02] beloved employees.
[27:07] And I do notice as I go out and
[27:07] about in the world that I can
[27:12] feel the tension in
[27:13] the employees as we go through
[27:14] these uncertain times and how
[27:18] we're having to meet them.
[27:19] So I love that there are so
[27:25] many names on that code section
[27:26] but there's just so many people
[27:27] that have the back of our
[27:27] employees and all the labor
[27:31] association.
[27:32] So if we're going to do it and
[27:32] just go with your employees, we
[27:33] love you firefighters,
[27:36] lifeguards please everybody we
[27:37] love you.
[27:42] Keep at it On Fire Street.
[27:42] Okay.
[27:43] Lifeguard service provision
[27:47] policy 2.9 Night crew I look
[27:51] like I read you the policy 2.9
[27:52] It does involve an animal you
[27:57] and excuse me I'm sitting on a
[27:58] sidewalk here.
[27:59] It's a long story but to me my
[28:04] crew work is still very
[28:04] crucial.
[28:05] It is a very strong policy and
[28:10] an mou which I think it has.
[28:10] Maybe it needs improvement.
[28:11] I also see us doing much better
[28:15] in honoring the needs of our
[28:16] excuse me of our valued and
[28:21] appreciated the lifeguards.
[28:22] We're really making progress
[28:23] with our lifeguards.
[28:28] I really feel good about it So
[28:29] if I keep at it it's going to
[28:29] be a great week.
[28:29] You're back.
[28:33] I hope you had a wonderful
[28:34] summer and I look forward to
[28:34] participating and hearing what
[28:39] you're sharing and sort of to
[28:39] all Thank you.
[28:40] Krypto Bradley if you can
[28:41] please unmute and let me know
[28:47] which item or items you wish to
[28:47] speak to.
[28:48] >> Thanks one and two please.
[28:51] This is Hector a I'd say on a
[28:52] good note the slip and fall
[28:57] that go into the airport Now
[28:57] what's great I dropped off my
[28:58] girlfriend at Southwest It's
[29:03] amazing how it works Really
[29:03] good.
[29:04] And then the slip and fall down
[29:04] at the island.
[29:09] The crosswalk that goes in
[29:09] there.
[29:10] I didn't get it done.
[29:11] That's like a dangerous
[29:15] situation And there's there's
[29:15] only one line left to
[29:16] the crosswalk and I've been
[29:16] going down there a lot
[29:21] different and it's gave me 543
[29:22] days that they're going to
[29:27] paint the crosswalk.
[29:28] So if we get it done that takes
[29:33] 531 days out of you.
[29:34] Just give us some paint at
[29:35] ourselves, you know, to speed
[29:35] it up.
[29:39] So because that could be a big
[29:40] time loss you could get a lot
[29:41] of traffic and people walking
[29:45] around on bikes and cars and
[29:45] the fire department you got to
[29:50] give them what they want.
[29:51] The attorneys are making all
[29:51] the money, maybe only have one
[29:57] city attorney on the job
[29:57] because that's what lawsuits
[29:58] are like.
[29:58] The attorneys, all those guys
[29:59] in the back, the attorneys or
[30:03] the fire, they could be getting
[30:03] paid by somebody anyway.
[30:09] That's just like any lawsuit.
[30:09] The attorneys are raking in
[30:10] the money to pay them and they
[30:11] put up warning signs that you
[30:14] want to river during the flood.
[30:14] It's going to be a massive
[30:21] health care disaster when
[30:21] the floods come and hit
[30:22] the water.
[30:22] Don't order any firemen or
[30:27] firefighter in the water.
[30:28] Don't even have them in there.
[30:29] Put up signs with your dumb in
[30:33] the water.
[30:34] You're on your all.
[30:34] Don't MISS Their last rescue
[30:35] When some idiot gets down there
[30:38] in the water during the storm
[30:39] that's common.
[30:40] It's not worth these guys lives
[30:43] to rescue something down there.
[30:44] So that's my thing with
[30:49] the lawsuits and the firemen.
[30:50] >> You got to give them
[30:50] the money.
[30:51] Thank you.
[30:51] Thank you.
[30:55] Let us conclude closed session
[30:56] public comment.
[30:56] >> All right.
[30:57] Thank you, City clerk We will
[30:57] now recess and the close
[31:00] session and reconvene council
[31:01] today at 2 P.M. Or shortly
[36:42] thereafter
[38:42] and
[39:37] from the company we have like
[39:37] to make sure thank you for
[39:38] their official testimony.
[39:40] Yes I can thank you so much.
[39:40] Thank you.
[39:41] And Capital One welcome.
[39:41] Hello and thank you so much.
[40:11] >> Thank you.
[42:02] >> And I think
[44:02] really
[47:12] we're ready.
[47:18] >> All right.
[47:19] Good afternoon.
[47:19] Yeah.
[47:19] First day back from our
[47:20] legislative recess.
[47:24] I will now reconvene the city
[47:25] council meeting on Monday,
[47:25] AUGUST 24th, 2026.
[47:30] Clerk please call the roll.
[47:30] Thank you.
[47:31] Council PRESIDENT Council
[47:31] Member Campbell Councilmember
[47:37] Woodburn Councilmember Foster
[47:37] Yeah.
[47:38] Council Member Von Wilpert
[47:38] Present Council PRESIDENT Pro
[47:42] Tem Lee Your Council member
[47:42] Campo Yeah.
[47:43] Councilmember Moreno Present
[47:48] Council Regular Rivera and
[47:48] Council PRESIDENT Like other
[47:49] PRESIDENT Also attend
[47:49] the meeting Our Assistant city
[47:54] Attorney Michelle Garland
[47:55] Independent Budget Analyst
[47:56] Charles Monaco Council Affairs
[47:56] Advisor to the Mayor's office
[48:01] Code advisor and myself or City
[48:02] clerk Diana Fuentes.
[48:02] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[48:03] right.
[48:03] Thank you.
[48:04] City Clerk Councilmember Van
[48:06] Wolpert Would you like to make
[48:06] your statement?
[48:07] >> Yes, Thank you.
[48:08] Council PRESIDENT I am
[48:08] notifying the council that I
[48:09] will be attending this
[48:12] afternoon to be remotely due to
[48:12] medical accommodations pursuant
[48:13] to the Brown Act.
[48:13] I'm disclosing that there are
[48:17] no individuals 18 years of
[48:18] older person in the room with
[48:18] me.
[48:19] I will update this disclosure
[48:20] if it change during the course
[48:20] of the meeting.
[48:25] Thank you.
[48:25] >> All right.
[48:26] Thank you.
[48:26] And Councilmember Campos thank
[48:27] you Council PRESIDENT As
[48:28] similar to a couple of words
[48:29] I'll be joining virtually this
[48:30] afternoon under just copies of
[48:31] the Brown Act for childcare
[48:35] purposes there's no one over
[48:36] the age of 18 or over with me
[48:36] and if that changes I will
[48:41] notify the council and
[48:41] the public.
[48:41] >> Thank you.
[48:42] All right.
[48:42] Thank you both for taking
[48:43] the time to participate Given
[48:46] your particular challenges.
[48:47] A quorum is now present.
[48:53] Are there any mayoral council,
[48:53] city attorney, independent
[48:54] journalist or city clerk
[48:59] comments Not seeing any.
[48:59] We'll move right along.
[49:00] Please go over how the public
[49:01] can offer their testimony.
[49:05] Thank you.
[49:06] Council PRESIDENT I would like
[49:06] to highlight the slide on
[49:07] the screen that reveals how
[49:08] the public can offer their
[49:10] public testimony during this
[49:10] afternoon's meeting.
[49:11] The order can be found on
[49:11] the agenda summary found online
[49:12] or at the table in the back of
[49:15] the room.
[49:16] If you are in person please
[49:17] complete the speaker slip
[49:17] looking at the entrance of
[49:18] chambers and bring it to
[49:19] the front of the room.
[49:21] Place it in the clear box where
[49:22] the arrow indicates council
[49:23] ambassadors are available near
[49:26] the entrance of chambers and
[49:27] can assist with questions and
[49:28] speaker slips and no further
[49:28] in-person testimony will be
[49:32] taken once the council begins
[49:32] Virtual testimony.
[49:33] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
[49:33] All right.
[49:34] Thank you.
[49:38] And again as I have started to
[49:39] do last before the recess when
[49:39] you're speaking to a docket
[49:44] item, please speak to
[49:44] the docket item.
[49:45] We will be having an agenda
[49:45] public comment where you have a
[49:49] much freer reign as to what you
[49:49] want to talk about at the end
[49:54] of this afternoon session.
[49:54] >> And with that clerk please
[49:55] introduce item 200.
[49:59] Item 200 is the proposed fiscal
[50:00] year 2027 Statement of
[50:05] Budgetary Principles.
[50:06] If you'd like to speak on this
[50:06] item now's the time to raise
[50:07] your hand by pressing Star nine
[50:08] or if you are here in person
[50:10] please be sure to bring your
[50:11] speakers up to the front of
[50:12] the room so that we can have it
[50:12] ready.
[50:12] Thank you.
[50:16] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[50:17] Thank you.
[50:17] All right.
[50:18] This item is being brought
[50:18] forward by the Office of
[50:19] the Independent Budget and also
[50:21] kick it over to MR. Monica to
[50:22] start the presentation.
[50:22] Great.
[50:22] Thank you.
[50:23] Council PRESIDENT Council
[50:26] members So this item is
[50:27] the city's 20th Annual
[50:28] Statement of Budgetary
[50:28] Principles.
[50:32] The documents that staff will
[50:32] be going over are essentially
[50:33] an agreed upon set of reporting
[50:34] and communication
[50:38] responsibilities for both this
[50:38] Council and administration as
[50:42] it actually implement the fy
[50:42] 2027 budget.
[50:43] So the best practice to ensure
[50:43] that both the administration
[50:48] and the Council agree on
[50:49] the communication and roles and
[50:49] responsibilities associated
[50:50] with the budget that are before
[50:53] each of those bodies.
[50:54] Sergio I'll call the on my
[50:54] staff will walk you through
[50:57] the actual statement itself.
[50:58] I would just note at the outset
[50:59] that this statement of
[50:59] principles essentially covers
[51:03] everything that you saw in
[51:04] the prior statement for fy 2026
[51:05] with one addition and that is a
[51:08] requirement of
[51:09] the administration to provide
[51:09] an annual update to the Council
[51:10] on Settlements and Judgment
[51:13] payments that the city makes
[51:14] each year.
[51:14] With that I'll kick it over to
[51:17] Sergio and his presentation
[51:18] will take about six minutes.
[51:18] >> Thanks, Charles.
[51:19] I'm sorry I'll call the office
[51:22] of the aba On JUNE 30th 2026
[51:26] Our office released Iberia
[51:26] Report 26 Dash 18 which
[51:27] includes the proposed fiscal
[51:30] year 2027 Statement of
[51:31] Budgetary Principles Since
[51:32] the Statement of Budgetary
[51:32] Principles is an annual
[51:35] agreement between Council and
[51:36] the Mayor our office obtain
[51:37] review and input from
[51:37] the Department of Finance as
[51:40] well as the City Attorney's
[51:40] Office.
[51:41] We appreciate their
[51:41] collaboration.
[51:42] We're asking the Council to
[51:46] review and adopt the principles
[51:46] with any desired modifications.
[51:50] By way of background,
[51:51] the Statement of Budgetary
[51:51] Principles represents an
[51:52] agreement between Council and
[51:56] the Mayor for administration of
[51:56] the budget.
[51:57] It clarifies budgetary
[51:57] authority and facilitates
[52:01] communication regarding
[52:01] the budget.
[52:02] The need for the principles
[52:02] came with the transition to
[52:05] the strong mayor strong council
[52:06] form of government.
[52:07] At the time there was a lack of
[52:10] clarity between the executive
[52:11] and legislative branches about
[52:12] budget administration and
[52:12] handling of related fiscal
[52:15] matters.
[52:16] The statement of budgetary
[52:20] principles was put into place
[52:20] in fiscal year 2008 as an
[52:24] accompanying resolution to
[52:24] the fiscal year 2000.
[52:25] The appropriation ordinance
[52:26] since then has been adopted
[52:29] each year and we recommend it
[52:29] to continue for fiscal year
[52:29] 2027.
[52:33] The proposed principles were
[52:34] heard on the JULY 8th Budgeting
[52:38] Government official commit
[52:39] Government Efficiency Committee
[52:39] which forwarded it to council
[52:40] without any additional
[52:43] adjustments.
[52:47] The principles can be broken
[52:48] down into three sections.
[52:49] First the communication on
[52:52] budget programs services.
[52:53] The second is the Appropriation
[52:56] ordinance.
[52:57] And third is the principles for
[52:58] an effective, collaborative and
[53:01] transparent city budget
[53:01] process.
[53:02] I will provide highlights for
[53:03] these functions for these
[53:06] sections later in this
[53:07] presentation.
[53:07] The proposed fiscal year 2027
[53:11] principles largely mirrored
[53:12] those of fiscal year 2026 with
[53:13] most revisions consisting of
[53:16] updated dates and technical
[53:16] adjustments.
[53:17] I do want to note that there is
[53:18] one proposed substantive
[53:21] judgment which is a requirement
[53:21] for an annual update on
[53:22] the city's settlement and
[53:22] judgment payments including
[53:26] related expenses and claim
[53:26] information for the police
[53:27] department.
[53:30] This adjustment stems from a
[53:31] request that came out of
[53:31] the JUNE 17th Budget and
[53:32] Government Efficiency Committee
[53:35] meeting.
[53:39] >> Moving on to the three
[53:40] sections of the proposed
[53:40] principles the first outlines
[53:44] how communications should occur
[53:45] regarding budget to programs
[53:45] and services.
[53:49] The principles require
[53:50] the mayor to provide quarterly
[53:51] reports to the council which
[53:51] are done through the quarterly
[53:54] budget monitoring reports.
[53:55] The mid-year budget process is
[53:56] also included in this
[54:00] requirement under which
[54:00] the Mayor MAY recommend to
[54:01] council how to budget any
[54:02] projected surplus or how to
[54:04] adjust any projected deficit.
[54:05] For the third bullet the mayor
[54:09] must provide written notice to
[54:09] council before implementing any
[54:13] significant reduction or delay
[54:14] to a funded program.
[54:15] This written notice must
[54:18] include justification and a
[54:19] description of service level
[54:20] impacts including potential
[54:23] unintended consequences that
[54:24] create disproportionate
[54:25] inequity for communities of
[54:25] concern.
[54:28] We emphasize the importance of
[54:29] both clear communication and
[54:30] making any reductions
[54:33] thoughtfully.
[54:38] >> The next section sets out a
[54:39] sets of principles for
[54:40] the Appropriation Ordinance or
[54:43] aoe The principles preserve
[54:44] the intent that the aoe is a
[54:45] document to implement adopted
[54:47] budget and does not provide
[54:48] policy direction.
[54:48] The principles also state that
[54:53] neither the mayor nor Council
[54:53] have unilateral authority to
[54:54] make changes to the spending
[54:57] authority in the budget.
[54:58] Accordingly, Council cannot
[55:01] change the budget without first
[55:02] receiving a funding
[55:03] recommendation from the mayor.
[55:07] And finally the mayor must in
[55:07] good faith fulfill
[55:08] the legislative intent
[55:12] reflected in the budget.
[55:12] The principles further include
[55:13] Council's intent that services
[55:14] be implemented equally and
[55:19] equitably.
[55:20] >> The final section in
[55:20] the principles applies to an
[55:23] effective city budget process.
[55:24] This line lists some of
[55:25] the principles for a fiscally
[55:26] responsible budget process
[55:28] including eliminating
[55:29] the structural budget deficit
[55:30] for pursuing service delivery
[55:34] efficiencies, maintaining
[55:34] reserves and planning for
[55:35] deferred capital infrastructure
[55:43] and its maintenance.
[55:44] >> Other principles for an
[55:44] effective city budget process
[55:45] include limiting programmatic
[55:48] supplemental positions.
[55:49] The principles note that
[55:49] programmatic supplemental
[55:53] positions should only be
[55:54] requested after the fiscal
[55:55] year's first quarter unless
[55:58] the need for these positions
[55:59] could not have been anticipated
[55:59] during the budget adoption
[56:03] process and waiting until
[56:03] the end of the first quarter
[56:04] would restrict the city's
[56:05] ability to provide critical
[56:08] services.
[56:08] Other principles include having
[56:09] council committees review key
[56:13] performance indicators or KPIs
[56:13] and ensuring collaboration and
[56:18] carrying out council's policy
[56:18] directives including
[56:19] the Programs Council has
[56:22] included in the adopted budget
[56:23] and the city's labor
[56:23] negotiation policies.
[56:28] The principals also encourage
[56:28] council members to discuss any
[56:29] proposed adjustments with our
[56:32] office before Council's final
[56:33] budget adoption meeting so that
[56:33] we MAY provide feedback.
[56:38] As we noted earlier, there is
[56:38] one proposed substantive change
[56:39] to the principals.
[56:42] This new change would require
[56:42] the risk management department
[56:43] to give City Council an annual
[56:44] presentation on the city's
[56:47] settlement and judgment
[56:48] payments including related
[56:48] expenses and claim details for
[56:52] the city's police department.
[56:53] Again, this proposal reflects a
[56:58] request a request made at
[56:58] the JUNE 17th dng Committee
[56:59] meeting following a similar
[56:59] presentation from risk
[57:02] management.
[57:03] >> What that our office is
[57:06] requesting the Council to
[57:07] review and approve the proposed
[57:08] fiscal Year 2027 Statement of
[57:09] Budgetary Principles along with
[57:11] any desired changes.
[57:12] Note that since this is an
[57:13] agreement between the City
[57:16] Council and the mayor, any
[57:17] proposed revisions to
[57:18] the principles will be subject
[57:18] to mayoral approval.
[57:21] That concludes my presentation.
[57:22] Council PRESIDENT And we're
[57:23] happy to answer any questions.
[57:23] All right.
[57:26] With that thank you very much
[57:26] with for the presentation of
[57:27] the work to bring this item
[57:31] forward and the work with
[57:31] the Budget Committee.
[57:32] With that city Clerk please
[57:35] proceed with public comment And
[57:36] again we'll be looking for your
[57:37] comments on item 200.
[57:40] Thank you.
[57:41] Council PRESIDENT We do have
[57:41] several speakers here in
[57:42] council chambers.
[57:42] We did not received any
[57:45] organized presentation requests
[57:46] for this item so we'll be
[57:49] starting with Joyce Senora And
[57:50] as noted on the agenda it is
[57:51] two minutes per person.
[57:54] So Joy, if you can please come
[57:55] forward if I can have
[57:55] the following individuals
[57:56] please come up to the reserved
[57:59] seats at the front.
[57:59] Paul Krueger, Laurie Saldana
[58:00] and allegedly Audra please
[58:03] proceed.
[58:04] >> Thank you.
[58:08] Okay.
[58:09] The slip that I gave to our
[58:13] dear city clerk is one that has
[58:17] red letters on it and it says
[58:18] opposed.
[58:22] And I want you to know that I
[58:23] am a strong no on this item.
[58:31] I am a strong no.
[58:36] >> Sergio, thank you for
[58:36] presenting it.
[58:36] Very good.
[58:40] And thank you to everybody who
[58:41] worked on it and for these
[58:42] many, many years.
[58:45] Thank you so much.
[58:46] So it's a great document.
[58:47] There's no doubt about it And
[58:50] it's needed And I love
[58:51] the authority part of it
[58:54] clearing that up on
[58:55] the executive and legislative
[58:55] branches.
[58:56] I love the communication and
[59:00] the collaboration portion of
[59:00] it.
[59:01] I love that it's you know,
[59:05] helps with the budget changes.
[59:05] I like that the framework is
[59:09] there for administering
[59:10] the administration of
[59:13] the budget each fiscal year.
[59:18] Here's what I don't like.
[59:19] >> Support a physically
[59:21] responsible budget process.
[59:26] >> It does not.
[59:27] How long have we had a
[59:30] structural budget deficit?
[59:31] We're not addressing it and you
[59:36] don't address it clearly in
[59:36] this document?
[59:40] We don't we're not supporting a
[59:41] fiscally responsible budget
[59:41] process.
[59:45] Period.
[59:46] And I don't know when we're
[59:46] going to start.
[59:51] We nibble at it and all we do
[59:51] is nibble.
[59:55] And I ask you for several years
[59:56] to remove the word any as it
[59:56] relates to the structural
[1:00:00] budget deficit.
[1:00:00] Any to me is a question any
[1:00:05] structural budget deficit?
[1:00:05] >> No, we have one.
[1:00:06] Anyway, thanks for listening.
[1:00:17] Love to all No on this item.
[1:00:18] >> Uh, good afternoon, council
[1:00:18] members.
[1:00:22] I wanted to thank you first of
[1:00:23] all especially Councilmember
[1:00:26] Foster for the increased
[1:00:27] scrutiny that you're going to
[1:00:28] have on police settlements.
[1:00:32] I think it's important that you
[1:00:33] thoroughly review and try to
[1:00:36] take affirmative early action
[1:00:42] to understand why we're making
[1:00:42] these settlements and ways that
[1:00:43] we can avoid them And that goes
[1:00:47] much further to all forms of
[1:00:48] public liability.
[1:00:48] Look at the number of
[1:00:49] settlements you have on this
[1:00:55] Tomorrow's budget for trip and
[1:00:56] falls and flooding that are
[1:00:57] totaling tens hundreds of
[1:00:59] millions of dollars a year.
[1:01:00] But I wanted to speak most to
[1:01:04] this issue on that aspect of
[1:01:04] effective collaborative and
[1:01:08] transparent communication in a
[1:01:09] mayor council form of
[1:01:13] government as Apple clickable
[1:01:14] to the city's budget process.
[1:01:19] My concern or my example I
[1:01:19] would give about the really
[1:01:24] significant importance of this
[1:01:24] is this complete breakdown that
[1:01:25] we had on the restrooms in
[1:01:29] mission Bay.
[1:01:29] I wasn't the only one to
[1:01:33] express concerns about
[1:01:33] the closure of those restrooms
[1:01:37] in JULY before you went on your
[1:01:38] hiatus.
[1:01:39] The fact that it got past
[1:01:42] the budget approval process
[1:01:43] when at least one of you
[1:01:48] opposed the closure of those
[1:01:49] restrooms and that they
[1:01:49] continued closed for another
[1:01:53] month in the face of
[1:01:57] significant public outcry for
[1:01:58] want of a better word is really
[1:02:02] unacceptable.
[1:02:03] That should not have happened
[1:02:04] And I don't think as members of
[1:02:07] the public we care what
[1:02:08] the reason why they were closed
[1:02:12] and more importantly why it
[1:02:13] took more than a month to open.
[1:02:14] But nobody and I think
[1:02:17] yourselves included wants to
[1:02:18] see that happen again.
[1:02:18] >> Thank you.
[1:02:22] Thank you.
[1:02:22] Hold on.
[1:02:23] You and I understand you have a
[1:02:25] presentation materials to share
[1:02:30] for the.
[1:02:30] But did you want to start with
[1:02:35] the video or start speaking
[1:02:36] videos for this is just images.
[1:02:36] >> Oh I don't know what that
[1:02:37] music came from.
[1:02:39] My apologies either but I
[1:02:40] wanted to start by saying that
[1:02:44] in order to have these
[1:02:44] budgetary principles work you
[1:02:48] need to have good faith
[1:02:48] negotiations with the mayor.
[1:02:53] And if the mayor is in
[1:02:53] Sacramento negotiating on
[1:02:54] issues such as exemptions for a
[1:02:59] project to take place at
[1:02:59] the council then has no control
[1:03:00] over.
[1:03:03] You are being encumbered
[1:03:03] legislatively in ways that I
[1:03:04] don't think are good faith
[1:03:08] principles If your ability and
[1:03:09] specifically I'm talking about
[1:03:17] efforts by the mayor and body
[1:03:18] to have exemptions to secure
[1:03:22] for a major development project
[1:03:22] in an area that lacks
[1:03:23] the infrastructure to support
[1:03:23] it.
[1:03:26] Go ahead to the next slide
[1:03:27] please.
[1:03:27] So while the mayor is supposed
[1:03:31] to be communicating in good
[1:03:32] faith with you, he is making it
[1:03:33] impossible for you to safeguard
[1:03:37] people in an area.
[1:03:37] If I could have the next image.
[1:03:38] Thank you.
[1:03:41] That is rapidly this is an
[1:03:42] image from Rotterdam is rapidly
[1:03:42] sinking much like other cities
[1:03:46] around the world because of sea
[1:03:46] level rise.
[1:03:50] And PRESIDENT Lacob, you're an
[1:03:51] engineer.
[1:03:51] I don't think we need to tell
[1:03:52] you that saltwater intrusion
[1:03:55] into structures is not a good
[1:03:55] combination and the city's
[1:03:56] ability to deal with it.
[1:04:00] Your council ability.
[1:04:01] >> I'm going to I'm also
[1:04:02] the council PRESIDENT And we
[1:04:04] ask people to speak to
[1:04:05] the budgetary principles
[1:04:05] whether the language is good or
[1:04:06] whether you like the addition
[1:04:10] rather than veer off into other
[1:04:11] conversations that might be
[1:04:11] more appropriate for the next
[1:04:13] item or certainly for non
[1:04:18] agenda No.
[1:04:19] >> Well we'll put it back If I
[1:04:22] did say it for you and one
[1:04:23] reason you have the budgetary
[1:04:23] principles was because you were
[1:04:27] not having good communication.
[1:04:28] There was a pension crisis that
[1:04:29] was underfunded that wasn't
[1:04:32] communicated And I would say
[1:04:32] that the same thing is
[1:04:33] happening now where you are
[1:04:36] being obligated for some
[1:04:37] expenses that you were not
[1:04:37] privy to and that you would
[1:04:41] have no control over and that
[1:04:42] has to do with some development
[1:04:42] projects specifically But
[1:04:46] there's other things as well.
[1:04:47] So if you're against
[1:04:47] the administration, the mayor
[1:04:52] is going to lobby on behalf of
[1:04:52] the city for a specific piece
[1:04:56] of legislation or to that is an
[1:04:57] encumbrance of future fiscal
[1:05:01] responsibilities And it is not
[1:05:01] in good faith And I don't
[1:05:02] believe you're going to meet
[1:05:07] the goal of of this.
[1:05:07] >> Thank you.
[1:05:07] Thank you.
[1:05:08] I did pause of your time during
[1:05:09] that So allegedly Andre, if you
[1:05:09] can please come forward.
[1:05:10] >> You'll have two minutes as
[1:05:14] well.
[1:05:19] >> I love here Enjoy Come out
[1:05:19] here and really start holding
[1:05:20] you guys accountable because it
[1:05:24] is very clear what's going on
[1:05:24] And you guys's actions speak
[1:05:25] louder than your empty words
[1:05:28] because even if you brought
[1:05:29] forward this ordinance to stop
[1:05:33] the things that you talk about,
[1:05:34] these things are still taking
[1:05:35] place and so you can't be
[1:05:39] trusted that you know, even if
[1:05:40] you continue to pass this that
[1:05:40] it's going to stop it.
[1:05:43] I mean because I think there's
[1:05:44] a lack of communication between
[1:05:48] you guys and the mayor And I
[1:05:48] don't believe there is an
[1:05:49] effective collaborative process
[1:05:52] that is taking place which is
[1:05:53] really unfortunate because you
[1:05:54] guys need to be good stewards
[1:05:54] of our money.
[1:05:57] But if there's this constant
[1:05:58] battle and one side's doing
[1:05:59] something that the other side
[1:06:02] isn't stopping, then you know
[1:06:03] how how strong is that for
[1:06:07] the city And what happens if
[1:06:08] you guys don't pass this?
[1:06:09] I feel like that's something
[1:06:09] that you guys should put in
[1:06:12] here, you know, like do you
[1:06:13] have to because you guys get
[1:06:16] into these situations where you
[1:06:17] pretty much have to pass
[1:06:17] the item and so you go ahead
[1:06:21] and do it just because you have
[1:06:22] to instead of going is this
[1:06:25] really what's best If we
[1:06:26] brought it forward to stop
[1:06:27] the things that we're talking
[1:06:27] about, it hasn't done that
[1:06:30] because then you're just
[1:06:31] gaslighting the people acting
[1:06:32] like you're you're you know,
[1:06:35] doing what's best because even
[1:06:36] still like the fulfilling
[1:06:36] the intent of the budget does
[1:06:40] that ever happen I mean
[1:06:40] potentially because your guys
[1:06:41] is in the mayor's intent is
[1:06:44] different than what you present
[1:06:45] to the people so you're filling
[1:06:46] your own pockets and things
[1:06:49] like that But what you present
[1:06:50] to the people isn't what's
[1:06:50] happening and the impacts.
[1:06:51] It's like who knows what
[1:06:54] the impacts are like even
[1:06:54] closing the bathrooms.
[1:06:55] Is that something that
[1:06:56] the mayor let you guys know
[1:06:59] what those impacts were going
[1:07:00] to be and how would he know
[1:07:00] that?
[1:07:03] How could you trust that he
[1:07:04] would provide you enough
[1:07:05] information that would really
[1:07:05] show what the people are going
[1:07:09] to be, you know, suffering?
[1:07:09] I mean because he's not going
[1:07:10] there and having to suffer
[1:07:10] that.
[1:07:14] So I just think you guys need
[1:07:15] to be more mindful about
[1:07:15] the way you do this And we need
[1:07:16] to be hearing about what
[1:07:17] the impacts are if you don't
[1:07:19] pass it.
[1:07:25] Anthony Ralphs Okay then we'll
[1:07:25] go to those that are
[1:07:30] participate voting online
[1:07:31] starting with calling user one
[1:07:31] If you can please unmute you'll
[1:07:37] have two minutes.
[1:07:37] Say hello.
[1:07:43] Hello.
[1:07:44] >> Yes we can name it Gore on
[1:07:48] my name is Gore Button and I
[1:07:48] live in Tule Lake.
[1:07:49] I just want to say on
[1:07:50] the budget they are going to
[1:07:53] both we should not be giving
[1:07:54] money to Breaking Bad.
[1:07:58] Sure that we need to we are
[1:07:59] women or we are women in
[1:08:04] bathrooms and basically get
[1:08:04] what are you thinking and will
[1:08:05] there be an increase?
[1:08:08] I hate you pretty much if you
[1:08:09] are too weak and by you are a
[1:08:12] man and you do not belong in
[1:08:17] men's race men women,
[1:08:18] restrooms, women's locker rooms
[1:08:22] and women's jails I'm sick
[1:08:22] Entire training taking over San
[1:08:27] Diego GOD bless America GOD MAY
[1:08:28] appease Really GOD bless Donald
[1:08:31] Trump are eternal I think GOD
[1:08:35] bless our governor takes barely
[1:08:40] That concludes your comments.
[1:08:40] Okay Starting with next going
[1:08:44] to Kathleen Lippert.
[1:08:45] >> Thank you.
[1:08:50] Good afternoon.
[1:08:50] Council My name is Kathleen
[1:08:54] Lippert at over the past two
[1:08:55] decades the city of San Diego's
[1:08:59] workforce has expanded from
[1:09:03] 11,000 employees in 2005 to
[1:09:07] 13,000 in 2025 a 20% increase.
[1:09:07] Notably during that period
[1:09:08] management level positions
[1:09:12] surged by 461% this year.
[1:09:17] Meantime, along a 10% rise in
[1:09:22] the city's population, I want
[1:09:22] to point out that there is an
[1:09:26] example that the city could
[1:09:27] follow and perhaps collaborate
[1:09:27] with the city of Temecula.
[1:09:35] It became debt free after
[1:09:35] $76.86 million was paid off.
[1:09:36] The officially declared itself
[1:09:39] debt free.
[1:09:40] The city including the city
[1:09:44] manager announced
[1:09:45] the achievement in JULY 2026
[1:09:49] Temecula City Council Under
[1:09:50] the city's definition debt
[1:09:54] included mortgages facility
[1:09:54] loans, unfunded pension
[1:09:55] obligations and long term
[1:09:59] liability.
[1:10:00] If the payoff was the result of
[1:10:04] a multi-year financial strategy
[1:10:05] that addressed facility loans,
[1:10:09] mortgages unfunded pension
[1:10:10] obligations and other long term
[1:10:11] liabilities By resolving these
[1:10:15] obligations the city not only
[1:10:16] removed debt from its balance
[1:10:20] sheet but also reduced future
[1:10:21] interest costs significantly.
[1:10:25] However, this can only be done
[1:10:29] if there is a market solution
[1:10:30] and and dedication to being
[1:10:34] into integrity and and
[1:10:35] the public good.
[1:10:39] So thank you for letting me
[1:10:39] speak.
[1:10:40] >> Thank you.
[1:10:41] Next is John If you can please
[1:10:43] unmute.
[1:10:48] Good afternoon City Council
[1:10:49] members I'm sorry your and we
[1:10:50] can I can hear you very very
[1:10:54] faintly.
[1:10:54] Sorry about that.
[1:10:55] Is this better?
[1:10:55] Yes that's better.
[1:10:56] Please proceed.
[1:10:58] Excellent.
[1:10:59] >> John Brady with Lived
[1:10:59] Experience advisors.
[1:11:00] Good afternoon City Council.
[1:11:03] I am concerned about how
[1:11:03] the budget process played out
[1:11:07] this year.
[1:11:08] It seemed that we were going to
[1:11:09] protect everything related to
[1:11:12] our services for the homeless
[1:11:13] community.
[1:11:14] And at the very end it appeared
[1:11:14] that we were going to
[1:11:18] discontinue funding for the Neo
[1:11:19] good day center and now it
[1:11:19] appears that the denial good
[1:11:22] day center is going to be
[1:11:23] permanently closed and licensed
[1:11:24] from operation.
[1:11:27] That is a very different
[1:11:28] outcome from what we expected
[1:11:29] at the beginning and I can
[1:11:32] assure you the community
[1:11:33] response would have been much
[1:11:33] more aggressive had we known
[1:11:37] that a as a decrease in funding
[1:11:38] was going to be an absolute
[1:11:39] shutdown of the neo good day
[1:11:43] center To put that in
[1:11:43] perspective.
[1:11:44] The name of the Day Center has
[1:11:46] either 6 or 8 men's and women's
[1:11:47] stalls four bathrooms.
[1:11:50] That is over 50% of
[1:11:51] the available public bathrooms
[1:11:51] in the city of San Diego for
[1:11:55] people experiencing
[1:11:55] homelessness.
[1:11:56] >> That is an outrageous
[1:11:56] outcome.
[1:12:00] John I'm going to interrupt
[1:12:01] because I have to be fair to
[1:12:01] everyone.
[1:12:02] We're talking about
[1:12:04] the budgetary principles not
[1:12:05] about any facility or any
[1:12:06] budget allocation So understood
[1:12:09] and understood And what I'm
[1:12:10] seeking is more clarity when a
[1:12:14] shift like that is going to
[1:12:14] occur.
[1:12:15] So I and I apologize for
[1:12:19] getting into in depth into that
[1:12:20] I understand.
[1:12:20] Council PRESIDENT.
[1:12:24] So I really hope that in
[1:12:25] the future we are able to
[1:12:25] provide a lot more clarity
[1:12:29] about the impact of decisions
[1:12:30] like this as well as cutting
[1:12:35] cutting public bathrooms across
[1:12:36] the board.
[1:12:36] >> Thank you.
[1:12:37] Blair Beckman if you can please
[1:12:39] unmute.
[1:12:39] All right.
[1:12:45] Thank you.
[1:12:45] Beakman I really second
[1:12:46] the words of the previous
[1:12:46] caller.
[1:12:50] I'm very, very much so.
[1:12:50] >> We can continue to talk
[1:12:51] about these issues.
[1:12:54] Thank you.
[1:12:55] To me for me to speak on
[1:12:56] principles of budgetary
[1:13:00] concerns at this time it's my
[1:13:01] sincere hope that we're
[1:13:04] understanding that we can't
[1:13:05] just simply offer, you know,
[1:13:10] the best practices of budget
[1:13:10] austerity to immediately solve
[1:13:11] our budget issues a budget
[1:13:16] deficit issues.
[1:13:17] >> It was a fine that was a
[1:13:18] program that was created kind
[1:13:20] of in the 80s and 90s and it
[1:13:20] was the accepted standard way
[1:13:21] to work.
[1:13:25] But we're trying to understand
[1:13:26] the concepts that human beings
[1:13:30] come first before ledger books
[1:13:30] .
[1:13:31] And that is been a bit of a
[1:13:32] difficult journey for
[1:13:32] ourselves.
[1:13:35] We're learning how to navigate
[1:13:35] it.
[1:13:36] I hope we can continue that
[1:13:37] important journey into next
[1:13:40] year into 2027.
[1:13:41] So you know budget time in MAY
[1:13:47] of next year for 2028 we will
[1:13:47] be much more ready to talk
[1:13:51] about equity and talk about
[1:13:52] best practices so people don't.
[1:13:52] Services don't get cut.
[1:13:57] And then how we learn those
[1:13:57] principles.
[1:13:58] I want to be better prepared
[1:13:59] about how we learn
[1:14:02] the principles that we feel
[1:14:03] that continuing health care
[1:14:08] benefits and retirement
[1:14:08] services for our city
[1:14:09] government workers in times of
[1:14:13] stress is I think an important
[1:14:14] principle and that a pay cut
[1:14:15] MAY actually possibly be a
[1:14:19] little easier than cutting.
[1:14:19] You know, our concerns and our
[1:14:24] and our retirement concern for
[1:14:25] city workers it's learning a
[1:14:26] principle system that we're
[1:14:30] trying to navigate and better
[1:14:30] understand for all of us
[1:14:31] because look how we can do that
[1:14:32] And I think it can make our
[1:14:35] future better decisions better.
[1:14:36] And it has to be based on
[1:14:37] the choices of humanity and not
[1:14:41] serving economic forecasts and
[1:14:41] and ledger books.
[1:14:42] So good luck in the efforts.
[1:14:47] Thank you.
[1:14:48] Thank you.
[1:14:48] The five minute timer To
[1:14:49] conclude during Blair's
[1:14:49] comments there were three
[1:14:50] people in the queue.
[1:14:53] Additional speakers will be
[1:14:53] taken.
[1:14:54] Catherine Rose If you can
[1:14:54] please unmute.
[1:14:56] After that is Natalie Raskin
[1:14:57] 7499.
[1:14:57] >> Hello this is Catherine
[1:14:57] Rhodes.
[1:15:02] I wanted to talk about
[1:15:03] the structural budget deficit.
[1:15:03] You know maybe have and I put
[1:15:08] forward about proposed ballot
[1:15:09] measures that would have gone
[1:15:09] on the NOVEMBER ballot to
[1:15:13] eliminate the structural budget
[1:15:14] deficit.
[1:15:14] But instead of the debate
[1:15:19] giving a written report on why
[1:15:19] they think our numbers were
[1:15:24] incorrect, all we got was a
[1:15:25] verbal thing saying that it
[1:15:30] wouldn't make that much money
[1:15:31] wouldn't solve the structural
[1:15:31] budget deficit.
[1:15:35] But instead of using our
[1:15:36] numbers of about $140 million
[1:15:37] that would have came here that
[1:15:37] would have solved all your
[1:15:38] problems.
[1:15:42] And I just want to I would like
[1:15:43] the idea to actually put
[1:15:48] something in writing instead of
[1:15:49] just have it being verbal.
[1:15:50] You know, this was a plan to
[1:15:54] eliminate the structural budget
[1:15:54] deficit by identifying new
[1:15:55] revenue sources.
[1:16:00] One good thing is that the city
[1:16:00] of Los Angeles in JUNE did
[1:16:01] the same thing where they had
[1:16:06] know this was part of changing
[1:16:07] the municipal code to say
[1:16:11] online travel agencies are
[1:16:12] considered hotel operators and
[1:16:13] that they would have to pay
[1:16:15] the full transit occupancy tax
[1:16:22] instead of only a portion of it
[1:16:22] .
[1:16:23] Pretty soon we'll be getting
[1:16:23] information from Los Angeles
[1:16:24] that will probably show that
[1:16:28] they're going to be making so
[1:16:28] much more money.
[1:16:29] They think that they're only
[1:16:33] going to be making an
[1:16:33] additional $3 million for
[1:16:34] the whole year.
[1:16:38] I bet you they will make $3
[1:16:38] million in a couple of weeks
[1:16:39] and they're going to be making
[1:16:43] so much more money and using
[1:16:44] that information you'll see how
[1:16:45] much you guys totally lost
[1:16:45] the ball on this.
[1:16:50] The other thing about this is
[1:16:51] the idea and I believe also
[1:16:51] the city attorney tried to say
[1:16:56] that we needed a two thirds
[1:16:57] voter approval because of
[1:17:03] the measure c because it's a
[1:17:03] special tax.
[1:17:04] >> How about you're talking
[1:17:04] about concluded that only if
[1:17:11] you complete them you not only
[1:17:16] rushfield experience advisors
[1:17:17] When we talk about principals
[1:17:18] it is it is confusing I'm
[1:17:22] confused on all the principals
[1:17:22] .
[1:17:23] I would have changed my what I
[1:17:28] was going to say when I had my
[1:17:29] two minutes to speak on
[1:17:29] the budget If I would have
[1:17:30] understood what these proposals
[1:17:35] are, what we're going to be on
[1:17:36] there, what we're going to be
[1:17:36] on there, what was already
[1:17:37] decided.
[1:17:40] It's very frustrating because
[1:17:41] I'm passionate about what I do.
[1:17:41] I'm passionate about my family
[1:17:42] and what happens to them and
[1:17:46] what these decisions that are
[1:17:47] made that affect me personally
[1:17:47] and the rest of the community
[1:17:53] and those principles Are we
[1:17:53] going off the air,
[1:17:59] the bathrooms being shut down?
[1:18:00] Are they mayors, principals?
[1:18:04] Are we not having shelter?
[1:18:05] We are having shelters.
[1:18:05] Are they planning on putting us
[1:18:10] on on Break Ranch?
[1:18:11] I think there should be
[1:18:11] clarity.
[1:18:12] There should be What's the word
[1:18:16] transparency because it affects
[1:18:17] me personally my children
[1:18:23] personally and the principles
[1:18:24] that I stand by or live by
[1:18:28] don't seem to be the same as
[1:18:29] anybody else's which is fine.
[1:18:35] But the principles that we're
[1:18:36] who are beating us in this
[1:18:40] administration I don't I don't
[1:18:41] think we should be doing
[1:18:42] anything that goes along with
[1:18:42] those principles.
[1:18:47] Thank you.
[1:18:48] So I have to say thank you.
[1:18:49] And our final speaker lowered
[1:18:50] their hand so that does
[1:18:51] conclude public comment on this
[1:18:57] item.
[1:18:58] >> I think it took a second for
[1:18:59] that to sink in.
[1:19:02] All right.
[1:19:03] Thank you, city clerk.
[1:19:04] And with that we'll turn it
[1:19:04] over to council members for
[1:19:09] questions and comments and
[1:19:10] entertain a motion And we'll
[1:19:10] start with the chair of
[1:19:11] the Budget Committee.
[1:19:15] >> Councilmember Foster Yes.
[1:19:16] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
[1:19:20] And thank you to the aba's
[1:19:21] office for the work that goes
[1:19:26] into this document.
[1:19:27] Thank you for putting in
[1:19:28] the information regarding risk
[1:19:32] management and having them
[1:19:33] included in the conversation.
[1:19:33] I think that's an important
[1:19:39] department and important fund
[1:19:40] as it is you know the backstop
[1:19:44] it is the general fund.
[1:19:45] And so I think that's something
[1:19:46] that is of value as we go
[1:19:46] through our budget
[1:19:51] deliberations.
[1:19:52] Also for transparency just so
[1:19:53] that the public can understand
[1:19:56] where our dollars are are
[1:19:57] going.
[1:20:03] Just quickly just listening to
[1:20:03] public comment.
[1:20:09] Quite frankly, I do have
[1:20:09] concerns about this document,
[1:20:16] this effort as it is a
[1:20:16] resolution.
[1:20:17] It is I say an agreement
[1:20:20] between the council and mayor
[1:20:21] in regards to the simply
[1:20:21] communication.
[1:20:26] It does not have any true teeth
[1:20:27] in regards to when that
[1:20:32] agreement is not adhered to,
[1:20:33] whether it's the mayor or
[1:20:33] the council in regards to that.
[1:20:34] But I think the overall
[1:20:39] frustration quite honestly
[1:20:39] relates to our current system.
[1:20:44] And that's the stronger form of
[1:20:45] government.
[1:20:45] I think you are seeing just
[1:20:46] what was put in place, what
[1:20:50] those impacts are and what it
[1:20:51] means to be in a stronger
[1:20:51] system in that authority that
[1:20:56] the mayor has now.
[1:20:57] And so as we continue to move
[1:20:58] forward, that is one thing that
[1:21:01] will be on my mind as we
[1:21:02] continue to move forward and
[1:21:03] that is a discussion of strong
[1:21:08] mayor versus city manager form
[1:21:08] of government.
[1:21:09] So with that I'll begin.
[1:21:10] Thank you for the efforts on
[1:21:15] this item and I will move
[1:21:15] staff's recommendation.
[1:21:16] All right.
[1:21:16] Thank you sir.
[1:21:20] So we have a motion by Council
[1:21:20] member Foster to move the staff
[1:21:21] recommendation and we go next
[1:21:22] to Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem
[1:21:26] Lee then council PRESIDENT And
[1:21:27] I will start by seconding
[1:21:32] the motion and maybe to thank
[1:21:32] Council Member Foster for
[1:21:33] the additions that he made to
[1:21:34] this year's budget principles
[1:21:34] In terms of some of
[1:21:37] the additional transparency but
[1:21:38] also to echo some of his
[1:21:39] comments I think these
[1:21:39] principles exist and only work
[1:21:44] as well as they do based on how
[1:21:45] both sides choose to adhere to
[1:21:50] it and how we work with each
[1:21:50] other.
[1:21:51] And I think we have seen in
[1:21:51] the last couple of years
[1:21:55] the limitations of that as well
[1:21:55] .
[1:21:56] And so I don't come in
[1:21:57] pretending like that's not
[1:21:57] the case but look forward to
[1:22:02] continuing to try to see how we
[1:22:03] can improve our communications
[1:22:03] and efforts across the board as
[1:22:10] we work towards another what I
[1:22:10] think is going to be expected
[1:22:11] to be a challenging budget
[1:22:11] year.
[1:22:12] So thank you Council present.
[1:22:14] All right.
[1:22:14] Thank you, sir.
[1:22:15] So we have a motion by Council
[1:22:16] member Foster in a second by
[1:22:19] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[1:22:20] to move the staff
[1:22:20] recommendation.
[1:22:21] I don't see anyone else on
[1:22:26] the lights or any hands up.
[1:22:27] I'll just add my thank you to
[1:22:28] Charles and the sergeant on
[1:22:31] the team for working on this
[1:22:32] year after year.
[1:22:32] You know perhaps we're getting
[1:22:37] more clarification that this is
[1:22:38] a statement of communication
[1:22:38] between the mayor and
[1:22:43] the council and unnecessary
[1:22:44] only translate to what
[1:22:45] the public MAY or MAY not need
[1:22:49] in understanding the budget
[1:22:49] process.
[1:22:50] And while some of us think
[1:22:51] the budget process is long and
[1:22:51] tedious drawn out, it actually
[1:22:57] moves pretty fast and it's hard
[1:22:57] to wrap your head around a
[1:23:00] thousand pages a budget and two
[1:23:01] plus 2 billion plus and all
[1:23:01] the different components of
[1:23:07] what we are as I have I want I
[1:23:08] want to really respond to some
[1:23:08] of the public comments but that
[1:23:13] really is not the item in front
[1:23:13] of us.
[1:23:14] I see the work continuing KPIs.
[1:23:15] I've never been a big fan but
[1:23:19] I'll respect those who do see
[1:23:24] those as valuable and continue
[1:23:25] to make to my commitment with
[1:23:26] my amazing staff to make sure
[1:23:30] that we'll do everything we can
[1:23:30] to dig into the budget,
[1:23:31] understand what
[1:23:31] the implications are.
[1:23:32] But as the budgetary principal
[1:23:36] say that when the Council
[1:23:37] adopts the budget that it is
[1:23:37] the mayor on the operation
[1:23:42] sides to carry it out and
[1:23:42] sometimes we find out things
[1:23:43] that we didn't appreciate or
[1:23:48] did not figure out what
[1:23:49] the implications were going
[1:23:49] forward as we saw happen in
[1:23:54] dramatic fashion this month.
[1:23:55] I'm glad we were able to even
[1:23:55] if it took us six weeks to get
[1:23:56] that taken care of.
[1:24:00] I think.
[1:24:01] Thank you Council member
[1:24:02] Campbell for that partnership
[1:24:02] so that we can always do
[1:24:03] better.
[1:24:05] We need to do better and have
[1:24:06] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[1:24:07] said that we will have another
[1:24:12] challenging budget ahead and
[1:24:13] I'll throw in a little final
[1:24:17] out Temecula sales tax is a
[1:24:18] full 1% higher than the city of
[1:24:21] San Diego's which would mean
[1:24:22] $400 Million if we have
[1:24:23] the same sales tax as the city
[1:24:29] of Temecula.
[1:24:29] Anyway, with that we have a
[1:24:30] motion by Councilmember Foster
[1:24:31] and a second by Council
[1:24:34] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee to move
[1:24:35] this off Recommendation City
[1:24:36] Clerk Please call them I'm
[1:24:36] sorry the voters and please
[1:24:42] cast your vote.
[1:24:43] Council Member Bond Wilford if
[1:24:43] I can get your vote for
[1:24:44] the record I vote yes And
[1:24:51] Council Member Campo Yes and
[1:24:52] that passes unanimously 9 to 0.
[1:24:52] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[1:24:53] right.
[1:24:53] Thank you.
[1:24:57] City Clerk Committee And thank
[1:24:58] you to the Office of the aba
[1:24:59] for the good work on that item
[1:24:59] With that clerk please
[1:25:03] introduce item to or what item
[1:25:04] to a one is the repeal of
[1:25:05] Measure c amending the People's
[1:25:05] Ordinance and associated
[1:25:08] amendments to the Standing on
[1:25:08] this bill code and Local
[1:25:09] coastal program.
[1:25:10] If you'd like to speak to this
[1:25:15] item please be sure to submit a
[1:25:15] Speaker's up to the front of
[1:25:16] the room or raise your hand by
[1:25:17] pressing Star nine the raise
[1:25:17] your hand icon I will Now that
[1:25:20] the public comment time for
[1:25:21] this will be two minutes so
[1:25:22] that you can be prepared and
[1:25:23] that no organized presentations
[1:25:23] were submitted Thank you
[1:25:26] Council PRESIDENT All right
[1:25:26] thank you.
[1:25:27] Realizing this is primarily a
[1:25:28] bookkeeping effort but
[1:25:31] nevertheless it's an important
[1:25:32] work in front of us staff
[1:25:33] Introduce yourselves for
[1:25:33] the record and let us know how
[1:25:37] much time you need for your
[1:25:38] presentation Just good
[1:25:38] afternoon.
[1:25:38] >> Thank you.
[1:25:43] Council PRESIDENT My name is
[1:25:44] Corey Funk and I am here with
[1:25:45] the with that I'm senior
[1:25:46] planner with the City Planning
[1:25:49] Department.
[1:25:49] We request five minutes for
[1:25:50] the presentation when you're
[1:25:55] ready.
[1:25:56] Okay.
[1:25:56] Thank you.
[1:25:56] Good afternoon.
[1:26:01] Members of the city council
[1:26:02] again, my name is Corey Funk,
[1:26:02] senior planner with City
[1:26:03] Planning Department Joining me
[1:26:07] today our planning director
[1:26:08] Heidi Van Bloom and deputy
[1:26:12] director Seth Whitney.
[1:26:13] The item before you today is
[1:26:14] for the repeal of Measure c
[1:26:18] amending a people's ordinance
[1:26:18] and associated amendments to
[1:26:19] San Diego Municipal Code and
[1:26:24] Local Coastal Program on
[1:26:31] NOVEMBER seventh, 1972, voters
[1:26:31] approved a citizens initiative
[1:26:32] that established the coastal
[1:26:36] height limit overlay zone.
[1:26:37] This initiative is also known
[1:26:38] as the People's Ordinance
[1:26:42] Number Oh Dash 10960.
[1:26:43] The coastal height limit
[1:26:43] overlay zone limits the height
[1:26:48] of buildings to 30ft for
[1:26:49] the area located generally
[1:26:53] within city limits And west of
[1:26:53] Interstate five on NOVEMBER
[1:26:58] 8th, 2022, Measure c was passed
[1:26:59] by a majority of the city of
[1:27:03] San Diego voters.
[1:27:04] The ballot measure amended
[1:27:05] the People's Ordinance and
[1:27:05] the coastal height limit
[1:27:06] overlay zone.
[1:27:10] The purpose of the measure was
[1:27:11] to exclude the Midway Pacific
[1:27:14] Highway Community Plan area
[1:27:15] from the 30 foot high limit
[1:27:20] Measure c was subsequently
[1:27:24] challenged through a lawsuit on
[1:27:25] OCTOBER 17th of 2025
[1:27:26] the California Court of Appeals
[1:27:31] ruled that the city needed to
[1:27:32] complete additional
[1:27:32] environmental review to study
[1:27:35] the impacts of buildings
[1:27:36] exceeding the 30 foot high
[1:27:37] limit On MARCH 12th of 2026,
[1:27:42] the San Diego Superior Court
[1:27:43] issued a writ of mandate
[1:27:43] directing the city to set aside
[1:27:48] the approvals for Measure c.
[1:27:49] This action is intended to
[1:27:54] comply with the court's writ of
[1:27:54] mandate.
[1:27:55] The action requested and would
[1:27:56] repeal the ordinance which
[1:28:00] submitted Measure c to the city
[1:28:01] voters and the associated
[1:28:01] amendments to the San Diego
[1:28:02] Municipal Code.
[1:28:06] There The repeal of Measure c
[1:28:07] means that the 30 foot high
[1:28:07] limit on buildings in
[1:28:08] the coastal high limit overlay
[1:28:11] zone remains in effect for
[1:28:12] the Midway Pacific Highway
[1:28:16] Community Plan Area.
[1:28:17] The request of staff is that
[1:28:18] City Council adopted ordinance
[1:28:23] to repeal ordinance number
[1:28:24] o-21508 which submitted Measure
[1:28:30] c to city voters and associate
[1:28:30] amendments related to
[1:28:31] the Coastal Highway overlay
[1:28:32] zone in the Midway Pacific
[1:28:38] Highway Community Plan Area.
[1:28:39] This concludes staff's
[1:28:39] presentation.
[1:28:40] We are available for questions.
[1:28:40] Thank you.
[1:28:44] All right.
[1:28:45] Thank you for the work on this
[1:28:45] bringing it forward and
[1:28:46] the presentation with that
[1:28:46] clerk.
[1:28:50] Please proceed with public
[1:28:51] comment on item 201 Thank you
[1:28:52] Council PRESIDENT Starting with
[1:28:56] Leslie Morgan if you can please
[1:28:56] come forward to the microphone
[1:28:57] and if I can have the following
[1:28:58] individuals in the front row.
[1:29:01] Angela better Joyce Senator
[1:29:07] Paul Krueger, Lori Saldana and
[1:29:08] allegedly Audra those are
[1:29:08] speakers here.
[1:29:09] Please proceed.
[1:29:09] Good afternoon.
[1:29:12] I'm Leslie Martin, executive
[1:29:13] director of San Diego Fair
[1:29:14] Housing Loud, an independent
[1:29:18] fair housing research and
[1:29:18] advocacy group working to
[1:29:19] expand fair housing access and
[1:29:20] homeownership opportunity
[1:29:23] across San Diego as high as
[1:29:24] three source neighborhoods.
[1:29:25] i know the council has no
[1:29:26] discretion on this item so my
[1:29:29] comments are purely for
[1:29:29] the record.
[1:29:30] In a JULY 15th, 2022 memo your
[1:29:35] own planning department wrote
[1:29:35] that the coastal height limit
[1:29:36] remains as a barrier to
[1:29:37] maximizing construction of
[1:29:40] homes and residential
[1:29:40] developments with restricted
[1:29:41] units.
[1:29:44] The memo sampled 13
[1:29:44] developments both inside
[1:29:48] the overlay zone since 2001 is
[1:29:49] only three stories.
[1:29:49] Just one has been restricted
[1:29:54] homes The Department recorded
[1:29:55] that barrier, never asked where
[1:29:55] the barrier falls or on whom So
[1:29:59] we did in our first report
[1:29:59] Coastal Opportunity and Housing
[1:30:04] Access in San Diego which
[1:30:05] publishes tomorrow.
[1:30:06] The city has had it since
[1:30:06] Friday If you doubt I you
[1:30:10] personally inside the coastal
[1:30:10] height limit 80% of census
[1:30:11] tracts are higher highest
[1:30:15] resource areas versus 54%
[1:30:16] citywide In the current housing
[1:30:20] cycle the overlay has only
[1:30:20] permitted 32.5 homes per
[1:30:21] thousand existing versus
[1:30:26] citywide 62% homes affordable
[1:30:29] below the original median two
[1:30:30] per thousand against 11 for
[1:30:30] the city.
[1:30:35] So that's half the citywide
[1:30:36] rate on housing of every kind
[1:30:36] and a fifth the citywide rate
[1:30:40] on affordable.
[1:30:40] Today a staff report concedes
[1:30:41] that this means less
[1:30:45] development It contains no
[1:30:46] federal housing analysis.
[1:30:47] A cap on building is not in
[1:30:50] neutral as static rule on
[1:30:51] the most valuable land in
[1:30:51] the city decides who gets to
[1:30:52] live there.
[1:30:54] Thank you very much.
[1:30:59] Thank you Angela Better.
[1:31:00] Hello When you repealed Measure
[1:31:04] c today as the court has
[1:31:05] ordered don't turn around and
[1:31:10] use the state density bonus law
[1:31:11] as a backdoor to accomplish
[1:31:15] the same thing Allowing midway
[1:31:15] rising to exceed 30 foot height
[1:31:16] limit.
[1:31:19] Now we have sb 958 and sb 344
[1:31:20] coming out of Sacramento
[1:31:24] creating yet another backdoor
[1:31:24] around the environmental
[1:31:25] review.
[1:31:29] This massive project is I'm
[1:31:30] really going to ask you to
[1:31:30] speak on Measure c There's
[1:31:33] plenty of opportunity to speak
[1:31:34] on that item but I know what
[1:31:39] you're saying.
[1:31:40] I understand it.
[1:31:41] I fully respect it and I would
[1:31:41] hope that it knowledge in a
[1:31:43] public comment you come and
[1:31:44] make that powerful statement
[1:31:45] but talk about whether or not
[1:31:48] we should repeal Measure c
[1:31:51] Thank you for that choice And
[1:32:00] yet if I'll try this one you
[1:32:04] notice I have no comments in my
[1:32:05] hand so I'm going to wing it on
[1:32:05] this one.
[1:32:09] I'll start with this is this
[1:32:14] little illegal voice or is this
[1:32:18] the voice of the people winning
[1:32:23] on this one And council member
[1:32:24] DR. Campbell I really support
[1:32:29] your position on this totally
[1:32:29] and I'm looking forward to
[1:32:33] hearing you speak.
[1:32:38] I think that we can go
[1:32:39] overboard on the environmental
[1:32:43] concerns and if you get me
[1:32:47] started on density you probably
[1:32:48] won't like me a lot of you
[1:32:52] because I love density Joy I
[1:32:53] have to be fair to everyone and
[1:32:58] we all do love you But speak to
[1:32:58] the whether we should rescind
[1:32:59] Measure c or not.
[1:33:02] You start talking about density
[1:33:03] and you love density.
[1:33:04] This is just a question of
[1:33:07] whether we should repeal
[1:33:08] the measure c which is a court
[1:33:12] order back on and I'll try
[1:33:12] again.
[1:33:16] Okay So I did look at you know
[1:33:21] glance at this very quickly So
[1:33:22] all I can say is that it seems
[1:33:26] like a legal thing that we're
[1:33:26] following that all we're doing
[1:33:31] is following the legal decision
[1:33:31] that was made in the court that
[1:33:36] we can't implement in Measure c
[1:33:41] as it was chosen by correct
[1:33:41] majority of the people.
[1:33:45] And that sort of shocks me and
[1:33:46] I don't really understand how
[1:33:51] these things can end up this
[1:33:51] way.
[1:33:56] So I appreciate sorry about
[1:33:56] that PRESIDENT LaCava And I
[1:33:57] really do appreciate when you
[1:34:01] take that stance on it not just
[1:34:02] for me but for everyone that I
[1:34:06] think that's the right way to
[1:34:06] go.
[1:34:07] Thank you.
[1:34:10] So I'll just say that I'm going
[1:34:11] to look forward to listening to
[1:34:16] council member DR. Campbell
[1:34:16] This is her Council District
[1:34:20] two item and I'll I'll go from
[1:34:21] there.
[1:34:25] So thank you and love to all
[1:34:26] Thank you Paul Krueger And I
[1:34:26] understand you have a
[1:34:31] presentation or images to share
[1:34:32] so staff will get those up for
[1:34:39] you.
[1:34:40] >> So I don't know where
[1:34:40] the music is coming because
[1:34:42] it's your walk up songs.
[1:34:43] >> I do appreciate that you
[1:34:44] bring a little levity in
[1:34:47] the chamber.
[1:34:47] There's another video coming in
[1:34:48] every time we share for some
[1:34:49] reason the audio sharing or
[1:34:53] that other video that's prepped
[1:34:53] but it's a nice walk up song.
[1:34:54] Please proceed.
[1:34:57] Can you zoom in on that a
[1:35:01] little bit to the circled area
[1:35:02] if possible?
[1:35:02] If not all I'll just explain.
[1:35:03] If not we'll print and share
[1:35:09] with the council as well.
[1:35:10] Back when you decided to appeal
[1:35:12] this measure is to the Supreme
[1:35:12] Court.
[1:35:13] Two of you voted against it.
[1:35:14] Raul Campo explained that he
[1:35:17] didn't think that your appeal
[1:35:18] would be successful and
[1:35:22] COUNCILWOMAN Moreno declined to
[1:35:22] offer to explain why she voted
[1:35:23] against it.
[1:35:26] But there's the bill from
[1:35:30] Everett Delano $446,000 he was
[1:35:31] awarded by he hasn't been
[1:35:32] awarded by the court.
[1:35:35] He submitted his fees and costs
[1:35:39] recently for his work on
[1:35:45] overturning Measure c.
[1:35:49] I'd like to say that I don't
[1:35:50] keep chipping away at
[1:35:54] Proposition d with issues like
[1:35:55] Measure c If you and your
[1:35:56] colleagues in the building
[1:35:59] industry and the labor unions
[1:36:04] don't like Proposition d, put
[1:36:04] it on the ballot, give
[1:36:08] the voters a chance to agree or
[1:36:13] disagree with your position
[1:36:14] that many of you have That
[1:36:15] measure d should be voided and
[1:36:18] that we should be approving
[1:36:23] items like Measure c do not
[1:36:23] take a piecemeal approach to
[1:36:25] this issue as you did with
[1:36:30] Measure c Most importantly what
[1:36:36] you did with Measure c was you
[1:36:36] put before voters an incomplete
[1:36:40] analysis by any means by a
[1:36:41] unanimous Supreme Court
[1:36:45] decision that by any means of
[1:36:46] interpretation deprived voters
[1:36:50] of the information that they
[1:36:50] needed to know to make a
[1:36:54] decision on measure c And you
[1:36:55] did it twice not you the city
[1:36:59] It wasn't I don't know
[1:37:00] the extent to which the council
[1:37:00] approved a supplemental each
[1:37:04] year but you did have a chance
[1:37:05] to take a position as Raul and
[1:37:08] Vivian did when it came before
[1:37:09] you to take it to the Supreme
[1:37:10] Court and you decided to do it
[1:37:10] anyway.
[1:37:12] Thank you for that Concluding
[1:37:12] comment.
[1:37:22] >> Lori Saldana So to continue
[1:37:23] on what was just said I agree
[1:37:23] that this was and I probably
[1:37:28] submitted the wrong slip I
[1:37:29] should have supported repealing
[1:37:32] c but not for simply reasons of
[1:37:33] height but also because frankly
[1:37:36] local coastal program will
[1:37:37] needs to recognize that rising
[1:37:41] sea level is causing inundation
[1:37:42] in this area.
[1:37:43] So if you were going to be
[1:37:46] honest with a consideration
[1:37:47] with an environmental impact
[1:37:49] report about building in
[1:37:54] the Midway area, I don't think
[1:37:59] you hit the mark on this And
[1:38:00] the hazards are many.
[1:38:00] This this area is not just a
[1:38:04] matter of building too high.
[1:38:05] It's a matter of having
[1:38:08] liquefaction underneath it and
[1:38:13] having an unsteady ground to
[1:38:13] build anything upon.
[1:38:14] So I'm sorry you repealing this
[1:38:17] at a time when there are bills
[1:38:18] going through the legislature
[1:38:19] and I know I'll be interrupted
[1:38:22] about that once again but it
[1:38:23] you're an engineer you know
[1:38:23] things are connected.
[1:38:24] You can't have one without
[1:38:27] the other And we can't have a
[1:38:28] repeal at the local level if
[1:38:31] there's push to approve and
[1:38:32] remove the height
[1:38:32] considerations at the state
[1:38:33] level.
[1:38:36] So when this comes before MR.
[1:38:37] Lee's committee in just a few
[1:38:41] weeks there's going to be a
[1:38:42] major contradiction.
[1:38:42] The council is repealed on
[1:38:43] the height but now the state is
[1:38:46] working on saying the height
[1:38:47] shouldn't be considered.
[1:38:51] So you're you're setting
[1:38:51] yourself into quite a quandary
[1:38:52] here And I don't know how
[1:38:56] you're going to figure this out
[1:38:56] .
[1:38:57] But what I do know if you go on
[1:38:58] to another image I've lost
[1:39:01] track of which images I've
[1:39:02] submitted here This is already
[1:39:02] happening in our coastal areas
[1:39:06] The sea level does not respond
[1:39:06] to legislation.
[1:39:07] So MR. Lee, when you look at
[1:39:11] this housing and land use,
[1:39:12] consider water use also because
[1:39:16] that is really what is at stake
[1:39:16] if you're going to build
[1:39:21] anything in these coastal areas
[1:39:21] .
[1:39:21] >> Thank you.
[1:39:22] Allegedly order you were doing
[1:39:26] so well you really nailed
[1:39:26] the testimony for repealing
[1:39:27] Measure c until right at
[1:39:32] the end.
[1:39:33] Obviously this is circumventing
[1:39:34] the will of the people because
[1:39:38] the people voted to have this
[1:39:39] be in place And it doesn't
[1:39:39] matter if a judge rules a
[1:39:43] certain way, it can still be
[1:39:43] illegal and it can still be
[1:39:44] something that you guys push
[1:39:47] back against because moving
[1:39:48] forward with this would be
[1:39:48] extremely negligent.
[1:39:52] There is a lot of issues that
[1:39:56] are not being addressed and no
[1:39:57] offense to other speakers but
[1:40:01] it's not that sea level is
[1:40:01] rising.
[1:40:02] It's going back to where it was
[1:40:06] at one time because California
[1:40:06] used to be an island
[1:40:07] technically and the water has
[1:40:11] been, you know, dammed up in
[1:40:12] different things And so it's
[1:40:13] just coming up to where it had
[1:40:16] been prior to all of that.
[1:40:17] And so to build on those types
[1:40:17] of things and have the height
[1:40:21] levels that are going to be
[1:40:22] extremely high and potentially
[1:40:26] I mean these things are going
[1:40:26] to be blocking even just
[1:40:27] the beach for some people but
[1:40:31] it's dangerous to build on
[1:40:32] marshlands like that when
[1:40:32] people claim that they are
[1:40:36] going to be able to, you know,
[1:40:37] deal with the weight of it so
[1:40:37] it wouldn't sink in.
[1:40:38] But I don't think that that's
[1:40:38] really true.
[1:40:40] I believe that these unions
[1:40:41] want the jobs and so they want
[1:40:45] to go in and build but and
[1:40:46] they're doing what their part
[1:40:46] is.
[1:40:47] But these engineers even though
[1:40:50] they're saying they're going to
[1:40:50] be putting posts down, it is
[1:40:51] still putting the potential
[1:40:55] danger of it being in like
[1:40:55] with quicksand.
[1:40:56] And so it's more of a public
[1:41:00] safety issue as opposed to
[1:41:01] anything else When you guys are
[1:41:04] doing stuff like this And I
[1:41:05] understand people want jobs and
[1:41:06] you guys want housing but you
[1:41:09] shouldn't be putting people in
[1:41:10] danger just to do it and
[1:41:10] repealing things that
[1:41:14] the people voted for.
[1:41:15] You say you represent
[1:41:15] the people so if you're going
[1:41:19] to repeal this then obviously
[1:41:20] you don't because you're going
[1:41:20] against what the will of
[1:41:24] the people was So I mean you
[1:41:25] guys need to really think about
[1:41:26] that If you if you claim to
[1:41:28] represent us then put your
[1:41:29] money where your mouth is and
[1:41:30] not just doing something
[1:41:34] because it's going to benefit
[1:41:34] construction.
[1:41:35] >> Thank you.
[1:41:35] That concludes your time.
[1:41:36] I'm sorry The five minute timer
[1:41:38] going to those participated
[1:41:39] remotely.
[1:41:39] Katherine Rhodes if you can
[1:41:42] please unmute you'll have two
[1:41:43] minutes.
[1:41:43] >> Wonderful.
[1:41:47] This is Katherine Rhodes and as
[1:41:48] most of you know I'm a civil
[1:41:48] engineer.
[1:41:51] I have problems regarding
[1:41:56] Midway Rising and the midway
[1:41:57] area due to my concerns
[1:42:01] regarding liquefaction,
[1:42:02] regarding groundwater
[1:42:03] intrusion, regarding the king
[1:42:07] tides for waters actually and
[1:42:08] sea level rise often we've
[1:42:09] already talked about that this
[1:42:12] is just a measure of c and
[1:42:13] whether we should repeal it or
[1:42:14] not write my agenda will give
[1:42:17] you an opportunity to speak on
[1:42:17] it.
[1:42:18] I gave people a little bit of
[1:42:21] leeway but let's just focus on
[1:42:26] Measure c and not on
[1:42:27] liquefaction or the ground
[1:42:27] conditions.
[1:42:28] Should we should we repeal
[1:42:31] measure c or not?
[1:42:32] >> Oh I'm talking about
[1:42:35] the reason why you have to
[1:42:36] repeal Measure c is regarding
[1:42:40] decision by the judge that told
[1:42:41] you that you guys did not
[1:42:45] analyze a whole bunch of
[1:42:46] things.
[1:42:50] >> One of the things that you
[1:42:51] you know the only thing that
[1:42:52] San Diego has regarding sea
[1:42:55] level rise is porous pavement
[1:42:56] That is your mitigation force
[1:43:00] for sea level rise that that is
[1:43:03] incomplete.
[1:43:09] Yes, of course you should This
[1:43:09] should go forward.
[1:43:10] It has to go forward.
[1:43:13] It's a law.
[1:43:14] It shouldn't have gone forward
[1:43:18] in the first place because one
[1:43:18] of the great things that
[1:43:19] the Port of San Diego used to
[1:43:23] have in their master plan is
[1:43:24] that there had to be two levels
[1:43:27] of underground parking or
[1:43:28] basement under every project in
[1:43:32] areas of let's look with viable
[1:43:33] soils and a great example of
[1:43:37] what to do in this area is
[1:43:38] the Navy Broadway complex or
[1:43:42] Manchester's Pacific Gateway.
[1:43:43] Another great example that that
[1:43:46] is used in San Diego is
[1:43:47] the County Administration
[1:43:52] Center building that has two
[1:43:52] levels of underground also
[1:43:53] where what you do is you
[1:43:56] actually get rid of
[1:43:56] the liquefaction.
[1:43:57] You guys don't even have any
[1:44:01] type of engineering standards.
[1:44:02] So yes, this is good to get rid
[1:44:03] of but you also have to have
[1:44:06] basic engineering Standard and
[1:44:07] Poor's pavement is not you know
[1:44:11] does not cut it.
[1:44:12] So you guys have a lot of work
[1:44:12] to do.
[1:44:16] Your time has concluded Just
[1:44:17] did anybody think it odd that I
[1:44:17] looked at the screen when I was
[1:44:18] talking to MISS Rhodes She's
[1:44:21] not up there.
[1:44:22] Jeff Tutor if you can please
[1:44:30] unmute Yeah, Thank you Counsel
[1:44:30] You know obviously we just want
[1:44:35] to be clear that the reason
[1:44:36] we're repealing probably a
[1:44:40] major c and restoring the high
[1:44:41] limit is so we can exceed it by
[1:44:44] other means which is either
[1:44:45] going to happen to
[1:44:49] the legislature or you know by
[1:44:50] state law I just you know we
[1:44:55] just need to be up front.
[1:44:55] The goal here isn't really to
[1:44:58] protect the height limit.
[1:44:59] >> It's really to protect this
[1:45:00] Midway Rising project.
[1:45:03] Thank you.
[1:45:03] >> Next is Blaire Beekman if
[1:45:04] you can please.
[1:45:08] And you.
[1:45:08] All right.
[1:45:09] Thank you.
[1:45:09] We're Beekman to weigh in on
[1:45:13] the measure c issue and its
[1:45:13] judgment I'm assuming from
[1:45:18] Katherine's words words that
[1:45:19] the judge he had many items
[1:45:22] that he was addressing and why
[1:45:23] he he made the decision that he
[1:45:26] did possibly very much included
[1:45:27] in that is the idea of sea
[1:45:28] level rise issues that I think
[1:45:32] has to be a part of the future
[1:45:33] of this conversation and that
[1:45:33] you guys are working on it on
[1:45:37] the state level you have a
[1:45:37] vested interest to not talk
[1:45:38] about sea level rise issue and
[1:45:42] I hope that and when this item
[1:45:42] comes up at council person
[1:45:46] leave meeting in the future
[1:45:47] that we can be allowed to have
[1:45:47] a more open conversation.
[1:45:50] I feel our current PRESIDENT Is
[1:45:51] is being a little too narrow in
[1:45:52] his definitions how we can talk
[1:45:55] about this issue.
[1:45:56] There is sea level rise that we
[1:45:56] have to be able to talk about
[1:46:00] more openly and clearly for
[1:46:01] the future of this area.
[1:46:01] It's an important conversation.
[1:46:05] It needs to be open and not
[1:46:06] just for this item but for our
[1:46:07] environmental future of San
[1:46:09] Diego how we address our issue
[1:46:10] as well.
[1:46:11] So good luck how we work on
[1:46:11] this issue together.
[1:46:11] Thank you.
[1:46:14] An open Thank you John If you
[1:46:24] can please unmute and and John
[1:46:25] Brady lives experience advisors
[1:46:28] I am calling in because I think
[1:46:29] that the intent of this measure
[1:46:29] was to remove the height limit
[1:46:33] in areas that were not
[1:46:33] necessarily beach adjacent and
[1:46:38] and completely made sense as to
[1:46:39] the legal I can't address but I
[1:46:43] think the intent was you know
[1:46:47] this is clearly not a near
[1:46:48] beach area even though it's
[1:46:48] near marshland.
[1:46:52] I really struggle with the fact
[1:46:53] that we would not be able to
[1:46:54] build in what is clearly semi
[1:46:57] industrial area.
[1:46:58] So I would vote against
[1:47:05] repealing Measure c thank you
[1:47:06] next 27499 if you can please
[1:47:11] unmute.
[1:47:16] Bob Kozinski here.
[1:47:17] I just want to express my
[1:47:17] disgust of Joe LaCava
[1:47:20] demonstrating his disregard for
[1:47:21] the public by repeatedly
[1:47:21] cutting people off.
[1:47:22] >> Thank you.
[1:47:25] Coming No Vega If you can
[1:47:29] please unmute regarding
[1:47:30] the Vega district eight I
[1:47:34] didn't do as much research
[1:47:34] necessarily on this but I did
[1:47:38] want to just point out that
[1:47:38] something that someone said in
[1:47:39] person that just because
[1:47:40] something is legal doesn't mean
[1:47:43] it's right but definitely
[1:47:48] trying to consider who is going
[1:47:48] to be most affected by this
[1:47:53] based on the areas where Well
[1:47:58] will this will affect Thank
[1:47:58] you.
[1:47:59] >> Thank you Then Amanda, if
[1:48:02] you can please unmute.
[1:48:07] >> Hi, Good afternoon City
[1:48:07] Council.
[1:48:08] >> Welcome back.
[1:48:12] And so I take a few minutes
[1:48:13] this morning to look through
[1:48:17] ruling from the Superior Court
[1:48:17] because I really wasn't
[1:48:18] familiar with the whole court
[1:48:22] process about Measure c And so
[1:48:26] from what I understand is that
[1:48:27] you guys put a dangerous
[1:48:32] measure on for up for a vote
[1:48:36] without considering
[1:48:37] the important environmental
[1:48:37] impacts.
[1:48:38] I'm going to read from
[1:48:41] the court ruling We will
[1:48:41] reverse an agency's
[1:48:42] determination regarding school
[1:48:46] compliance only where there was
[1:48:46] a prejudicial abuse of
[1:48:50] discretion applying
[1:48:51] the environmental impact
[1:48:51] reports at ground water levels
[1:48:55] which are expected to be near
[1:48:56] sea level throughout most of
[1:48:57] the Midway Pacific Highway area
[1:49:00] can result in response to
[1:49:01] changes in precipitation and
[1:49:01] runoff.
[1:49:05] As a result, the environment
[1:49:06] Impact report recognized most
[1:49:07] of the Midway Pacific Highway
[1:49:10] area has a high potential for
[1:49:11] liquefaction because the area
[1:49:16] has shallow groundwater or
[1:49:16] major drain drainages and
[1:49:20] hydraulic spills.
[1:49:21] I'm really disappointed that
[1:49:22] and again I know we need more
[1:49:25] housing.
[1:49:26] We need more affordable
[1:49:26] housing.
[1:49:27] We don't need any more luxury
[1:49:27] housing.
[1:49:30] We have quite enough of that.
[1:49:31] But I just wanted to say that
[1:49:31] I'm really disappointed that
[1:49:34] this ever got put up for a vote
[1:49:35] and that you guys were
[1:49:36] practicing prejudicial
[1:49:40] prejudicial abuse of discretion
[1:49:40] and lying to the voters.
[1:49:41] That's all.
[1:49:44] Thanks.
[1:49:44] Thank you.
[1:49:45] That does conclude public
[1:49:46] comment on this item.
[1:49:49] All right.
[1:49:49] >> Thank you city Clerk And
[1:49:54] thank you to the comments.
[1:49:54] If anyone is curious about my
[1:49:56] feelings about the course I'll
[1:50:01] limit and Sacramento's
[1:50:05] intrusion on local land use
[1:50:05] authority.
[1:50:06] I think I've been pretty
[1:50:10] eloquent on that But there's
[1:50:11] also going to be an opportunity
[1:50:11] to speak on some of the issues
[1:50:15] that I think is pent up in this
[1:50:16] chambers on non agenda public
[1:50:17] comment and of course on
[1:50:20] project specific opportunities
[1:50:20] .
[1:50:21] So I look forward to hearing
[1:50:25] from you And with that we'll
[1:50:25] turn over to the Council for
[1:50:26] questions comments entertain a
[1:50:30] motion and we'll start out with
[1:50:30] the council member representing
[1:50:31] District two which is where
[1:50:31] Midway is located.
[1:50:34] Council member Kim Thank you.
[1:50:39] >> Council PRESIDENT Thank you
[1:50:39] guys for the presentation.
[1:50:40] I think we're all a little bit
[1:50:44] sad those of us who are
[1:50:44] interested in making
[1:50:47] the biggest housing development
[1:50:48] in one place that the state has
[1:50:52] seen including half the living
[1:50:53] arrangements being affordable.
[1:50:56] However, the court has ruled
[1:50:57] and we have exhausted all legal
[1:51:02] appeals Our case was not taken
[1:51:02] by the Supreme Court and so
[1:51:03] we're stuck with what
[1:51:07] the superior Court ruled and we
[1:51:07] must abide by the court's writ
[1:51:12] of mandate because we believe
[1:51:12] in following the law and
[1:51:16] because of the writ of mandate
[1:51:17] which says we must remove this
[1:51:17] language from the municipal
[1:51:22] code by amending Measure c with
[1:51:22] this amendment the only effect
[1:51:26] our Midwood District we must do
[1:51:27] it and if we don't we will be
[1:51:31] in contempt of court.
[1:51:32] And when we're in contempt of
[1:51:33] court we open the city to
[1:51:36] tremendous numbers of fines
[1:51:37] which we can ill afford and
[1:51:41] besides which is good citizens
[1:51:42] who even disagree with
[1:51:42] the court.
[1:51:47] We still think that we must
[1:51:47] follow the court's orders
[1:51:48] because that is the law And so
[1:51:51] therefore I move the staff
[1:51:52] recommendation to do so as
[1:51:56] ordered by the court and I so
[1:51:57] move.
[1:51:57] >> Thank you.
[1:51:58] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[1:51:58] Thank you Council members.
[1:52:01] So we have a motion by Council
[1:52:02] member Campbell to move
[1:52:02] the staff recommendation
[1:52:05] Nothing He went on the lights.
[1:52:06] I'm happy to second that motion
[1:52:08] again not see anybody else in
[1:52:13] the lights call a vote.
[1:52:14] We have a motion by council
[1:52:15] member Campbell and the second
[1:52:18] by myself I started the voting
[1:52:19] system Council member Von
[1:52:23] Wilber Please register your
[1:52:24] vote orally I vote yes.
[1:52:27] >> Council member can you
[1:52:28] please register your vote
[1:52:28] early?
[1:52:32] Yes.
[1:52:33] And that passes unanimously.
[1:52:42] All right.
[1:52:43] >> Yeah.
[1:52:44] Thank you for out for this
[1:52:47] bookkeeping item.
[1:52:48] I appreciate the work.
[1:52:48] So with that we will now take
[1:52:53] up non agenda public comment.
[1:52:53] This is the opportunity to go
[1:52:54] big on whatever you want within
[1:52:57] the city's purview.
[1:52:58] Council members respect and
[1:52:58] appreciate the public input and
[1:52:59] are fully committed to
[1:53:02] protecting every participant's
[1:53:03] free speech rights at council
[1:53:04] and committee meetings.
[1:53:07] Clerk Please proceed with non
[1:53:08] agenda Public Comment Thank you
[1:53:13] Council PRESIDENT Pearl 2.7 Non
[1:53:13] Agenda Public comment is an
[1:53:14] opportunity for members of
[1:53:15] the public to comment items
[1:53:17] that are not on the agenda but
[1:53:18] within the subject matter
[1:53:18] jurisdiction of the City
[1:53:19] Council As the Council
[1:53:22] PRESIDENT Just noted each each
[1:53:23] public member will have two
[1:53:26] minutes to speak.
[1:53:27] If there are eight or more
[1:53:28] speakers on a single topic
[1:53:28] the maximum time for the topic
[1:53:30] will be 16 minutes.
[1:53:31] If you are in chambers please
[1:53:31] submit your speaker slip.
[1:53:32] If you're joining us virtually
[1:53:35] please raise your hand to speak
[1:53:36] by tapping the raise your hand
[1:53:37] icon or if you're a call
[1:53:39] participant The Star nine We're
[1:53:40] starting with those here in
[1:53:44] chambers starting with Jeff
[1:53:45] Bartlett.
[1:53:45] Please come up to
[1:53:46] the microphone.
[1:53:51] After that we'll have Charlene
[1:53:52] Antonio, Antonino Alto, Lino,
[1:53:55] Lori Saldana, Joyce Kenyatta
[1:53:56] and Irene Ramirez.
[1:54:00] Please proceed.
[1:54:01] >> All righty.
[1:54:01] All right.
[1:54:02] My name is Jeff Bartlett.
[1:54:05] i reside down in Tijuana.
[1:54:06] I do commute across the border
[1:54:07] to work security out here in
[1:54:11] downtown San Diego.
[1:54:12] I'm in a leadership supervisor
[1:54:12] position out here and I'm going
[1:54:17] to address some concerns I have
[1:54:17] about how sd pd responds.
[1:54:22] I mean we have the lack of
[1:54:23] community policing out here
[1:54:27] long sd pd response times I can
[1:54:28] go an entire shift without them
[1:54:29] showing up and dispatchers can
[1:54:33] get kind of unprofessional at
[1:54:33] times.
[1:54:34] I don't like how the city
[1:54:38] police will send the entire
[1:54:39] squad out to arrest like one
[1:54:39] unarmed person but then they
[1:54:40] don't show up when I call them
[1:54:44] in for something in other
[1:54:45] states sometimes you might only
[1:54:45] need 1 or 2 officers to arrest
[1:54:49] someone.
[1:54:50] Also I think we need a better
[1:54:51] system to report crimes instead
[1:54:56] of your online system to report
[1:54:56] crimes because that's limited.
[1:55:01] So if you don't know the person
[1:55:02] I think San Diego clean and
[1:55:02] safe has a system where you
[1:55:03] know you can take a picture and
[1:55:07] report things maybe the city
[1:55:08] police should adopt something
[1:55:08] like that.
[1:55:13] But I running low on time here
[1:55:14] But I do want to point a few
[1:55:14] things.
[1:55:15] I think we need some dui
[1:55:18] checkpoints on Fourth Avenue
[1:55:19] where Gaslamp Quarter is
[1:55:20] especially near large parking
[1:55:25] garages.
[1:55:26] I think we need to crack down
[1:55:26] on the drugs in the city.
[1:55:31] I mean trolley stops like Fifth
[1:55:32] Avenue and 12 in Imperial even
[1:55:37] here at Civic Center you have
[1:55:37] people hanging out using drugs
[1:55:38] near the trolleys.
[1:55:42] i think the city needs to crack
[1:55:43] down on the drugs in this city
[1:55:44] and we need to also find
[1:55:49] resources to assist and help
[1:55:50] our homeless people so they're
[1:55:51] not getting arrested and then
[1:55:54] coming back out on the streets
[1:55:55] ,find ways to rehabilitate
[1:55:56] them And I am running low on
[1:55:56] time So thank you for
[1:55:59] the opportunity to speak.
[1:56:00] Thank you.
[1:56:06] Next is Charlie.
[1:56:07] Good afternoon.
[1:56:12] My name is Charlene El and I am
[1:56:13] here on behalf of the San Diego
[1:56:14] Committee on Employment of
[1:56:14] People with Disabilities.
[1:56:18] I am the chair and ceo.
[1:56:19] Each OCTOBER our committee
[1:56:19] hosted OCTOBER 1st one of
[1:56:20] the largest disability focused
[1:56:25] job bears in California serving
[1:56:29] up to 1500 job seekers annually
[1:56:30] For the past 27 years this
[1:56:31] event has connected individuals
[1:56:31] with disabilities to employment
[1:56:36] opportunities and economic
[1:56:36] independence which remains
[1:56:37] especially important giving
[1:56:41] the disproportionate high
[1:56:42] unemployment rate with
[1:56:42] the disability community.
[1:56:43] For the last 20 years we have
[1:56:48] been honored to hold you
[1:56:49] OCTOBER 1st at the Balboa Park
[1:56:50] Club and we are deeply grateful
[1:56:54] to the City of San Diego for
[1:56:54] its longstanding partnership
[1:56:55] and generosity in providing
[1:56:55] this venue.
[1:56:56] While we sincerely appreciate
[1:56:59] the city support, we
[1:57:00] respectfully ask the Council to
[1:57:01] consider the intended impact
[1:57:06] that recently implemented
[1:57:06] parking fees in Balboa Park MAY
[1:57:07] have on attendance this event
[1:57:11] this year Many city residents
[1:57:12] with disabilities MAY not have
[1:57:16] had an opportunity or ability
[1:57:17] to register in advance for
[1:57:18] the resident parking waiver
[1:57:18] program.
[1:57:19] I can also share that we have
[1:57:23] received reports from community
[1:57:24] members that the parking waiver
[1:57:24] registration process can be
[1:57:29] difficult to navigate even with
[1:57:29] eligible city residents
[1:57:30] Challenges with obtaining
[1:57:30] information completing
[1:57:35] the process and sharing
[1:57:36] the waiver registration process
[1:57:37] can be difficult to navigate.
[1:57:37] So I see I'm running out of
[1:57:42] time and we have contacted city
[1:57:42] council members.
[1:57:43] We have contacted the mayor's
[1:57:49] office and this is going to be
[1:57:49] a challenge in OCTOBER on
[1:57:50] the seventh for people with
[1:57:50] disabilities.
[1:57:54] So we have typically 75
[1:57:58] employers, 60 volunteers and
[1:57:59] upwards of 1500 job seekers And
[1:58:00] again most of our job seekers
[1:58:00] don't have physical
[1:58:05] disabilities but mental and
[1:58:05] intellectual disabilities which
[1:58:06] will affect them with
[1:58:10] the parking.
[1:58:11] Larry Saldana If you can please
[1:58:12] come forward I understand you
[1:58:17] have some materials to share.
[1:58:17] Thank you.
[1:58:18] So now I think we can
[1:58:22] unencumbered discuss
[1:58:22] the challenge of sea level rise
[1:58:23] in our coastal areas and in
[1:58:29] particular one that is being
[1:58:29] scheduled or being discussed as
[1:58:35] dense high housing.
[1:58:36] If that does come before a
[1:58:37] council committee I hope that
[1:58:37] you can go to the next slide
[1:58:40] please.
[1:58:41] You will take into account what
[1:58:42] other cities are doing to
[1:58:47] combat the tide That is
[1:58:47] overwhelming our infrastructure
[1:58:48] as we speak.
[1:58:48] This is not a future
[1:58:52] consideration and this is only
[1:58:53] the words that we see on
[1:58:54] the surface What is happening
[1:58:54] below ground is even more
[1:58:58] troubling and more challenging
[1:58:59] when it comes to adding housing
[1:58:59] to the coastal areas.
[1:59:00] The Storm Stormwater Department
[1:59:05] is aware of this.
[1:59:05] They have gone out and welded
[1:59:06] the storm water covered sheet
[1:59:07] and the pressure of
[1:59:10] the incoming tide is still
[1:59:11] getting out because the sea
[1:59:11] level rise is exceeding
[1:59:17] the height of the storm water
[1:59:17] system.
[1:59:18] And I know you're getting a
[1:59:19] report on that very soon as we
[1:59:22] go on to the next images.
[1:59:22] Saltwater is extremely
[1:59:23] corrosive.
[1:59:29] It is destroying you can see
[1:59:29] the really rough surface of
[1:59:30] the streets.
[1:59:30] This is the end of Mission
[1:59:34] Boulevard And again, this is
[1:59:35] only what you see on
[1:59:35] the surface.
[1:59:36] What's going on below surface
[1:59:40] is in the case of Mission Beach
[1:59:40] their sewage and wastewater
[1:59:41] system is at serious repair or
[1:59:46] needs serious repairs.
[1:59:46] Next slide please.
[1:59:47] And just for standing water it
[1:59:47] gets quite deep.
[1:59:52] Next slide.
[1:59:53] And I guess I.
[1:59:54] I submitted several things I
[1:59:58] don't recall exactly which ones
[1:59:58] but I am repeating this because
[1:59:59] I don't think that it is being
[2:00:00] taken seriously enough.
[2:00:04] I realize you were preparing
[2:00:05] for El Nino.
[2:00:05] You were talking about storm
[2:00:06] water.
[2:00:06] This is not storm water.
[2:00:10] This is simply high water in
[2:00:11] the ground that is going to
[2:00:12] continue to rise with the sea
[2:00:12] level.
[2:00:17] We need to learn from Rotterdam
[2:00:17] and other coastal cities and I
[2:00:18] will continue to come back and
[2:00:21] introduce that in the future.
[2:00:21] >> Thank you.
[2:00:22] Thank you, Joyce.
[2:00:27] Again, it first of all I
[2:00:34] support San Diego Police
[2:00:34] Department's work to keep our
[2:00:35] people safe and the results are
[2:00:39] in.
[2:00:40] Crime continues to decrease and
[2:00:46] keep our beautiful city at
[2:00:47] the top of the list as one of
[2:00:47] the safest cities.
[2:00:52] Dear Public I'm sure some of
[2:00:53] you have read this past
[2:00:58] Monday's usa Today front page
[2:01:04] article on flock safety.
[2:01:05] After reading it I spent about
[2:01:05] two hours Googling information
[2:01:09] on Flock safety With the large
[2:01:10] outpouring of public concern
[2:01:16] about the use of this
[2:01:17] technology like safety has made
[2:01:22] the necessary changes to help
[2:01:22] people feel more comfortable
[2:01:23] and safe as as the people move
[2:01:28] around living their lives.
[2:01:29] Our whole nation is affected by
[2:01:34] these changes and the federal
[2:01:35] government has stated it will
[2:01:35] come forward soon with its
[2:01:40] position on the use of this
[2:01:41] surveillance technology.
[2:01:42] A big thank you to Keith Wall
[2:01:46] and all others for the JULY
[2:01:47] 27th excuse me JULY 22nd public
[2:01:52] meeting on this matter and for
[2:01:53] public input Also online until
[2:01:58] JANUARY till JULY 29th.
[2:01:59] Again I support sd pd and their
[2:02:04] use of this technology.
[2:02:05] Our trust ordinance is working
[2:02:06] and with a robust conversation
[2:02:11] on this important matter.
[2:02:12] Dear Public Trust Trust will
[2:02:18] win.
[2:02:18] One people One family one San
[2:02:19] Diego.
[2:02:20] Love to all this Been a great
[2:02:24] day.
[2:02:24] >> Welcome back, everybody.
[2:02:25] Thank you.
[2:02:31] Irene Ramirez is a second
[2:02:31] assistant here on location and
[2:02:38] that is Cortez.
[2:02:39] We're impressed about
[2:02:39] the timing of those those
[2:02:41] comments.
[2:02:49] We know and what they will
[2:02:50] because they are key.
[2:02:50] They can be read into your
[2:02:52] table.
[2:02:53] The reason that I'm here is a
[2:02:54] little bit different than what
[2:03:01] I thought.
[2:03:01] Meramec have portion this year
[2:03:02] an opportunity though they have
[2:03:04] a lot of they looking for
[2:03:05] things.
[2:03:05] But I stayed because I was told
[2:03:06] I have the opportunity to speak
[2:03:13] about what is before what I
[2:03:14] want to speak about.
[2:03:14] If any the problem of up
[2:03:18] tomorrow I will lay low.
[2:03:19] I've been having several
[2:03:19] problems with my invoices for
[2:03:23] my water bill.
[2:03:23] They are what I'm doing.
[2:03:30] And with the doubling of water
[2:03:30] as well.
[2:03:31] Okay.
[2:03:36] And I will not let them go.
[2:03:36] They'll be 23.
[2:03:37] The other thing we want to do
[2:03:40] the meals budget.
[2:03:41] The first one is with
[2:03:42] the property that I have that's
[2:03:45] a duplex that I received in
[2:03:46] 2023 an invoice for $1,068 or
[2:03:52] lengthy phase that will help
[2:03:56] them for their metering take
[2:03:57] courtroom.
[2:03:57] And then last month I received
[2:04:03] another invoice for the same
[2:04:04] property for 1034 and can
[2:04:07] always ask for us and can send
[2:04:13] me that.
[2:04:13] I don't see the reason of why
[2:04:14] these two different invoices
[2:04:15] give us losses on them Looking
[2:04:19] at those dollars Million that
[2:04:23] both of them are coming out to
[2:04:24] 1500 the two different invoices
[2:04:25] are half a year Tambi\n Antonio
[2:04:31] Campbell's fha the De la
[2:04:31] Factotum yacht any of the as
[2:04:32] you know having a color
[2:04:42] populated in our to the upper
[2:04:42] middle and then the invoice
[2:04:43] dates are changing as well they
[2:04:45] used to be the 18th and 19th of
[2:04:45] each month and now they're
[2:04:46] the 30th and first of each
[2:04:46] month.
[2:04:50] I'm not sure when they change
[2:04:51] your why you're not away I
[2:05:01] would guess your well you know
[2:05:05] they get on us a lot of them on
[2:05:06] end of the year if we could get
[2:05:11] them really so much on me this
[2:05:12] the like Brazil and then I
[2:05:13] don't it seems to me that
[2:05:14] the water billing is a bit
[2:05:14] dysfunctional because of so
[2:05:15] many changes from bill to Bill
[2:05:19] and in the property where I
[2:05:19] live in the change in water
[2:05:20] bill changes quite frequently
[2:05:21] and they are looking at it
[2:05:25] because I have a lot of issues
[2:05:26] where I sometimes have high
[2:05:26] water pressure and sometimes I
[2:05:34] have little to no water
[2:05:34] pressure on my property your
[2:05:35] property angle problem and that
[2:05:36] in order to have it be
[2:05:37] amplified or you know and then
[2:05:38] go back and put pressure on
[2:05:43] them which I me to be the last
[2:05:44] people And then I've had a lot
[2:05:45] of problems with my water
[2:05:45] meters and that with the water
[2:05:49] pressure that comes in and even
[2:05:50] explode some of my pipes are
[2:05:57] stuck and nobody intended to
[2:06:03] correct me in our you think a
[2:06:07] little on our solar panel
[2:06:08] services telling us they tell
[2:06:08] me that they finally found
[2:06:09] the problem but they still
[2:06:12] haven't been able to come out
[2:06:13] and fix it And now they're
[2:06:13] still having issues with
[2:06:14] the water pressure and that is
[2:06:18] changing the bill cycles and
[2:06:19] the amount of the bill that's
[2:06:28] being paid are charged.
[2:06:28] So yeah.
[2:06:31] MR. Cochran Bill, our now these
[2:06:32] last two they are finally
[2:06:33] starting to charge me water for
[2:06:40] the use cabana I started out on
[2:06:41] the house because I maybe
[2:06:42] because they said that they
[2:06:43] weren't going to start charging
[2:06:43] me until they started making
[2:06:44] the adjustments necessary to my
[2:06:48] house because if if I don't do
[2:06:49] I want to show you.
[2:06:50] But that's not true because I
[2:06:53] have been paying water the last
[2:06:53] two months.
[2:06:53] Okay.
[2:07:04] And so people see that we now
[2:07:05] see what that is going to be
[2:07:06] And my comment is that but it
[2:07:07] that it must be a plan
[2:07:10] approximate using a manyama or
[2:07:11] it's criminal what is a little
[2:07:16] better and multiple Yeah he got
[2:07:16] his but also he said he also
[2:07:22] can put that away in the bills
[2:07:22] he's like a little thing but
[2:07:24] almost enables me not this this
[2:07:25] and I'm again going to the next
[2:07:27] speaker Anthony Ross after
[2:07:27] Anthony Ralph says Angela
[2:07:31] better and after Angela better
[2:07:32] is Paul Kruger If you can all
[2:07:33] please come up to the front
[2:07:44] room I think we know who
[2:07:50] the bad guy is now but I think
[2:07:51] what the whole world wants to
[2:07:51] know is who wants to be
[2:07:56] the good guy?
[2:07:57] My phone has been blowing up
[2:07:57] off the hook.
[2:07:58] I'm being interviewed this
[2:07:58] morning.
[2:08:01] I was interviewed twice by four
[2:08:01] more media and by The Daily
[2:08:02] Wire.
[2:08:07] I have a request to be
[2:08:07] interviewed this entire week
[2:08:08] And what I would like to ask is
[2:08:09] of the five council members
[2:08:12] that voted for Flock, when will
[2:08:13] this end?
[2:08:13] When will you listen to
[2:08:14] the vast majority of your
[2:08:14] constituents?
[2:08:15] When will you respect
[2:08:19] the Constitution that you swore
[2:08:19] an oath to defend?
[2:08:20] When will you respect our
[2:08:23] privacy rights that are
[2:08:24] enshrined in the Fourth
[2:08:24] Amendment?
[2:08:25] These are non-negotiables.
[2:08:25] It should not have had to come
[2:08:26] to this.
[2:08:29] I came respectfully.
[2:08:30] I presented my position
[2:08:30] respectfully with hundreds of
[2:08:31] other organizations that
[2:08:35] expressed the exact same
[2:08:36] sentiment that I'm expressing
[2:08:37] before you now I should not
[2:08:37] have had to wear this Darth
[2:08:41] Vader outfit in order to get
[2:08:42] your attention in order to
[2:08:42] raise global awareness about
[2:08:43] this issue.
[2:08:47] But now that I have I'm glad
[2:08:48] I'm glad that this is going
[2:08:48] viral.
[2:08:49] I'm glad that this is now a
[2:08:52] viral conversation that
[2:08:53] the whole world is happening
[2:08:53] because now this is an
[2:08:54] opportunity for you to see This
[2:08:57] is an opportunity for you to
[2:08:58] continue your political careers
[2:08:58] if you still want them.
[2:08:59] There is nothing that is
[2:09:03] uniting the right and the left
[2:09:04] faster than our disdain for
[2:09:05] this Orwellian surveillance
[2:09:09] technology.
[2:09:09] That's abundantly clear by
[2:09:10] the fact that I could wear this
[2:09:11] costume once and it could go
[2:09:15] globally viral be picked up by
[2:09:16] cnn Washington Post I've seen
[2:09:16] this I've seen my video
[2:09:17] translated in Arabic.
[2:09:20] I've seen it translated in
[2:09:21] Spanish that showcases that
[2:09:21] should demonstrate to all of
[2:09:22] you who couldn't read the room
[2:09:26] when the vast majority of your
[2:09:27] constituents were opposed to
[2:09:27] flock that the world is against
[2:09:31] flock, that the world is
[2:09:32] against being surveilled, that
[2:09:32] we understand that poverty is a
[2:09:37] symptom of rampant inequality
[2:09:38] that billionaires not paying
[2:09:38] their taxes are the ones that
[2:09:43] approve this technology
[2:09:43] Billionaires, boomers, cops and
[2:09:44] fascists and those that don't
[2:09:48] respect the Constitution are
[2:09:49] the only ones that want Angela
[2:09:53] better.
[2:09:59] Hi I want to say I'm really sad
[2:09:59] that I was cut off earlier
[2:10:00] because when I was talking
[2:10:04] about and if you would have let
[2:10:05] me finish it would have gotten
[2:10:06] to the point where, you know,
[2:10:10] Measure c was about the 30 foot
[2:10:10] height limit and repealing
[2:10:11] that.
[2:10:14] >> But anyway I'll start here
[2:10:20] sb 344 Okay.
[2:10:24] Sb 344 is a bill that is going
[2:10:32] through Sacramento that that
[2:10:37] Senator Weber Pearson has
[2:10:42] decided to get and change it to
[2:10:43] Midway Rising and sequel And
[2:10:46] you know it was about human
[2:10:47] remains dispose of human
[2:10:48] remains so to me that just
[2:10:52] that's like taking a shirt that
[2:10:53] you see at a store and saying I
[2:10:58] don't like the price so I am
[2:10:58] going to remove that price tag
[2:11:02] and switch it for something
[2:11:02] that's on sale.
[2:11:03] >> The other thing is that you
[2:11:07] know, as a physician she should
[2:11:08] understand why, you know, just
[2:11:13] like all of you that you don't
[2:11:13] decide a patient's outcome
[2:11:17] first and then eliminate tests
[2:11:17] that might reveal something
[2:11:22] that you don't want to hear And
[2:11:22] just because there's
[2:11:23] legislature that allows that to
[2:11:26] happen doesn't mean it's right
[2:11:26] .
[2:11:27] >> So I just want to say, you
[2:11:28] know, traffic emergency
[2:11:31] response infrastructure, air
[2:11:32] quality, you know, other
[2:11:37] impacts, you know, they just
[2:11:38] don't disappear because
[2:11:42] Sacramento Bill says that needs
[2:11:42] to.
[2:11:43] >> So I hope you don't find
[2:11:44] another way to eliminate the 30
[2:11:47] foot height limit and you know
[2:11:52] respect the San Diego residents
[2:11:52] because ultimately the voters
[2:11:55] are the ones that put all of
[2:11:55] you out there.
[2:11:59] Thank you.
[2:12:00] >> Paul Kruger, if you can
[2:12:08] please come up.
[2:12:09] Thank you.
[2:12:13] First I like to say speaking on
[2:12:14] behalf of the non billionaire
[2:12:23] non fascists but boomers I did
[2:12:23] support Floc I do support Floc
[2:12:27] It's a tough call but you all
[2:12:28] know there's another side out
[2:12:32] there Also Council PRESIDENT I.
[2:12:37] I will always remember the very
[2:12:37] powerful comments you and Raul
[2:12:41] Campo gave about
[2:12:42] the construction of the eight
[2:12:46] storey project on Coronet near
[2:12:47] Mission MAY Drive That's going
[2:12:51] up now that again the issue is
[2:12:52] not whether or not we need
[2:12:52] the housing.
[2:12:56] The issue is whether or not
[2:12:56] we're going to respect voters
[2:12:57] on Proposition d and properly
[2:13:01] put the measure before them for
[2:13:01] appeal.
[2:13:05] That's the issue I just wanted
[2:13:06] to do on the record thank
[2:13:07] people who I believe made it
[2:13:08] possible to reopen
[2:13:14] the restrooms and with
[2:13:14] favoritism towards none and
[2:13:15] thank you towards all I just
[2:13:18] put it in alphabetical order
[2:13:19] Again just to put on the record
[2:13:24] those who who reversed that
[2:13:27] really unfortunate policy.
[2:13:28] First of all council member
[2:13:29] Campo who acknowledged his vote
[2:13:32] for the budget but was
[2:13:33] the first to forcefully come
[2:13:37] out and argue for there be in
[2:13:38] statement of the funds to open
[2:13:39] it to spite been ignored by
[2:13:41] the mayor The letter writer
[2:13:42] through the Union-Tribune who
[2:13:46] week after week refused to let
[2:13:46] the issue die.
[2:13:47] Audrey Pham, the pediatrician
[2:13:51] at Children's who on Tuesday
[2:13:52] before the mayor announced
[2:13:52] the openings pointed out
[2:13:56] the problem of communicable
[2:13:56] diseases caused by closed
[2:13:57] restrooms.
[2:14:01] Chris Read at the Union-Tribune
[2:14:01] who endlessly, tirelessly and
[2:14:05] sometimes a little too
[2:14:06] vociferously urged the opening
[2:14:07] of the restrooms.
[2:14:11] Bradshaw fell from the mission
[2:14:12] Bay Conservatory Thank you all.
[2:14:15] >> Thank you.
[2:14:16] I'm sorry The five minute time
[2:14:17] we're going to those
[2:14:17] participating remotely We
[2:14:18] currently have 11 people in
[2:14:19] the queue.
[2:14:19] >> The original if you can
[2:14:23] please unmute Yes with all this
[2:14:24] focus on flock it's interesting
[2:14:28] because it's the surveillance
[2:14:29] technology that we need to be
[2:14:29] focusing on.
[2:14:33] You guys like to concentrate on
[2:14:33] these billionaires and what
[2:14:37] they're doing to encroach on
[2:14:38] everybody's lives and
[2:14:38] the billionaires that you speak
[2:14:39] of and want to you know, hold
[2:14:42] back are the very ones that are
[2:14:43] owning these technologies And
[2:14:47] it's not about flock but it was
[2:14:48] a great bait and switch for
[2:14:52] them to bring in flock and do a
[2:14:52] corporate cannibalism of it by
[2:14:57] bringing in some a partner who
[2:14:57] supported Flock in
[2:14:58] the beginning in fact gave
[2:15:02] funding to it which is Axon.
[2:15:03] And so Axon is going to be
[2:15:04] coming in and taking the place
[2:15:07] of flock.
[2:15:08] Axon already got the contracts
[2:15:12] on the body worn cameras on
[2:15:13] the 911 dispatch on Alpers
[2:15:17] within the law enforcement
[2:15:17] vehicles.
[2:15:18] And so as we sit here and we
[2:15:22] concentrate on one entity and
[2:15:23] not the entire system as a
[2:15:24] whole and understand that Peter
[2:15:28] Teal who is very well connected
[2:15:32] with Epstein and Larry Fink
[2:15:33] with BlackRock it's you know
[2:15:33] all of these JPMorgan's
[2:15:34] the people that you guys even
[2:15:38] contract out but instead you
[2:15:38] want to focus on Trump.
[2:15:39] You need to be focusing on
[2:15:42] these entities that are
[2:15:43] collecting our data on a
[2:15:44] massive scale bringing in these
[2:15:47] A.I. Data centers and are
[2:15:48] surveilling our children
[2:15:51] wherever they go And this is an
[2:15:52] Epstein operation.
[2:15:53] Jeffrey Epstein is not dead.
[2:15:57] His operation is in full flux
[2:15:57] And the concern is not only
[2:16:01] that it's a satanic Lucifer
[2:16:02] Korean ritual abuse that
[2:16:02] happens on children but it's
[2:16:06] also a blackmail system because
[2:16:07] you know, Jeffrey Epstein is a
[2:16:11] cia and Mossad agent And so as
[2:16:12] we see these things
[2:16:13] encroaching, we need to really
[2:16:16] be concerned about where our
[2:16:16] data is going.
[2:16:17] And so you guys need to be
[2:16:18] standing against surveillance
[2:16:22] as a whole not flock, not Axion
[2:16:22] but surveillance as a whole and
[2:16:26] understand that your children
[2:16:27] are being watched by the very
[2:16:27] people that you think shouldn't
[2:16:28] be in jail.
[2:16:31] >> Time has concluded.
[2:16:32] Becky Wrap if you can please
[2:16:33] unmute after that is Barbara
[2:16:37] Gordon and Katherine Rhodes.
[2:16:37] Thank you Rob.
[2:16:38] I can hear me.
[2:16:40] There you go.
[2:16:41] >> Good afternoon.
[2:16:42] My name is Becky Rapp and I'm a
[2:16:45] parent in a public health
[2:16:45] educator And today I come to
[2:16:46] ask the Council for
[2:16:51] Transparency when it comes to
[2:16:51] the city's cannabis tax
[2:16:51] revenue.
[2:16:55] A neighboring city, Los Angeles
[2:16:56] has significantly more
[2:16:56] marijuana businesses than San
[2:16:59] Diego.
[2:17:00] And in MARCH of this year they
[2:17:01] were able to report that its
[2:17:04] marijuana businesses owe
[2:17:05] approximately 400 million in
[2:17:05] back taxes and fees.
[2:17:09] The city is now considering an
[2:17:10] amnesty program because so much
[2:17:14] money remains uncollected.
[2:17:15] If a city of this size with
[2:17:15] hundreds of pot shops can
[2:17:19] provide this detailed
[2:17:19] information, why can't San
[2:17:20] Diego residents are still
[2:17:24] asking how much marijuana tax
[2:17:25] is actually owed?
[2:17:25] How much was supposed to be
[2:17:29] collected and how much was
[2:17:30] actually collected including
[2:17:30] interest charges and late
[2:17:34] penalty fees.
[2:17:35] The city tells us that
[2:17:35] marijuana businesses are free
[2:17:38] to read to be audited and
[2:17:43] the city's own tax materials
[2:17:43] state that audits can identify
[2:17:44] underreported taxes and that
[2:17:48] penalties and interest can be
[2:17:48] assessed.
[2:17:49] So where's the public
[2:17:50] accounting of those results?
[2:17:53] The city treasurer has a
[2:17:54] delinquent accounts program
[2:17:57] that collects past receivables
[2:17:58] including audit deficiencies
[2:17:58] But the public deserves to know
[2:18:02] specifically what is happening
[2:18:03] with cannabis tax
[2:18:03] delinquencies.
[2:18:07] So I'd like to ask the Council
[2:18:08] to once again direct the City
[2:18:12] Treasurer and City Auditor to
[2:18:12] provide an update publicly
[2:18:13] available cannabis revenue and
[2:18:17] tax compliance report.
[2:18:17] Appreciate your time.
[2:18:18] Thank you.
[2:18:18] Thank you.
[2:18:20] Next is Barbara Gordon.
[2:18:25] If you can please unmute.
[2:18:30] >> Good afternoon.
[2:18:31] In San Diego it's hard to MISS
[2:18:31] The many cannabis businesses
[2:18:34] and billboards promoting
[2:18:35] cannabis as a treatment for
[2:18:39] virtually every condition.
[2:18:40] Medical izing commercializing
[2:18:44] of high potency thc has
[2:18:45] produced rising rates in
[2:18:45] addiction emergency room
[2:18:49] visits, traffic fatalities,
[2:18:50] serious psychiatric harm
[2:18:51] especially among youth.
[2:18:55] Recently a dea scientist
[2:18:59] testified about the widespread
[2:19:00] abuse and the lack of
[2:19:01] standardized cannabis products
[2:19:05] and the absence of rigorous
[2:19:05] scientific evidence necessary
[2:19:10] to establish acceptable cold
[2:19:11] medical use for cannabis under
[2:19:14] the Controlled Substance Act.
[2:19:14] Congress established
[2:19:15] the scientific standard for
[2:19:19] drug scheduling to help ensure
[2:19:19] that these decisions are based
[2:19:24] on evidence rather than
[2:19:24] political pressure.
[2:19:25] If those standards can be
[2:19:29] reinterpreted whenever they
[2:19:29] become politically inconvenient
[2:19:34] scientists scientific integrity
[2:19:34] gives away to political
[2:19:35] expedience.
[2:19:39] We know lowering
[2:19:39] the restrictions will increase
[2:19:40] availability, reduce public
[2:19:43] perception of risk, encourage
[2:19:44] greater use and ultimately
[2:19:48] increase addiction especially
[2:19:49] among vulnerable young people.
[2:19:49] Our young people deserve
[2:19:53] protection when they repeatedly
[2:19:54] hear that marijuana is harmless
[2:19:58] or it is simply medicine.
[2:19:58] They MAY underestimate
[2:19:59] the risks.
[2:20:02] The profit driven marijuana
[2:20:03] industry big weed mirrors
[2:20:07] the tactics of big tobacco big
[2:20:07] alcohol.
[2:20:08] These developments are not
[2:20:08] accidental.
[2:20:12] I urge the city to take
[2:20:12] stronger actions by limiting
[2:20:17] marijuana businesses and
[2:20:17] advertising and marketing of
[2:20:18] this drug.
[2:20:22] Thank you for letting me speak
[2:20:22] .
[2:20:23] >> Thank you.
[2:20:24] Next is Katherine Rhodes than
[2:20:25] Kathleen Lippert in 7499 after
[2:20:28] the five minute timer has also
[2:20:29] concluded there were 13 people
[2:20:30] with their hands raised.
[2:20:30] No additional speakers will be
[2:20:31] taken.
[2:20:34] Kathleen, please proceed.
[2:20:35] >> Hello, this is Katherine
[2:20:39] Rhodes and I'm calling again
[2:20:39] regarding our ballot measure
[2:20:43] That was not allowed to be
[2:20:44] heard for a second reading at
[2:20:44] the Rules Committee and was
[2:20:49] taken out by PRESIDENT Joe La
[2:20:49] Cava based on I believe false
[2:20:54] information from both the Ebert
[2:20:54] which said that which only gave
[2:20:59] a verbal response saying that
[2:20:59] there's only going to be a
[2:21:03] minimal amount of money, not
[2:21:04] 140 million that would have
[2:21:05] solved our city structural
[2:21:08] budget deficit but also a
[2:21:13] verbal legal opinion by
[2:21:14] the city attorney that tried to
[2:21:18] say that if we just wanted to
[2:21:19] have the words online travel
[2:21:19] agency as part of a hotel
[2:21:23] operator in the municipal code,
[2:21:27] it would require a
[2:21:27] supermajority or two thirds
[2:21:28] public voter approval because
[2:21:31] this was a special tax.
[2:21:32] What I'm trying to say is
[2:21:32] that's not true.
[2:21:36] That again is false
[2:21:36] information.
[2:21:37] I would like for both the ipa
[2:21:41] to write a written response
[2:21:42] regarding exactly how much
[2:21:46] money should should be created
[2:21:51] by changing the municipal code
[2:21:51] plus a legal opinion a written
[2:21:52] legal opinion by the city
[2:21:56] attorney because they said you
[2:21:57] know what you guys did is a
[2:22:01] validation lawsuit for Measure
[2:22:05] c and what you guys said there
[2:22:05] is that because it was a
[2:22:09] special tax proposed by a
[2:22:10] citizens initiative even though
[2:22:11] it's a special tax, it only
[2:22:15] needs 50% or a majority voter
[2:22:18] approval not the two thirds
[2:22:19] supermajority.
[2:22:19] And so you guys won that
[2:22:23] lawsuit And so of course it's
[2:22:27] only 50% for that And it was
[2:22:28] it's always been 50% And I just
[2:22:32] think you guys just totally
[2:22:33] ruined all the work, all
[2:22:38] the hundreds of hours of work I
[2:22:42] put into this for no reason.
[2:22:43] My apologies.
[2:22:43] Thank you.
[2:22:46] Next is Kathleen Lippert.
[2:22:50] >> If you can please unmute.
[2:22:51] Thank you.
[2:22:55] Good afternoon again.
[2:22:56] >> I'd like to share some
[2:22:57] information from Paul Light.
[2:23:00] He writes that the first step
[2:23:01] in preventing future failures
[2:23:01] is to look at past policy
[2:23:05] failures to prevent worsening a
[2:23:06] growing behavioral health
[2:23:06] problem.
[2:23:10] >> There is plenty of
[2:23:11] historical evidence for drug
[2:23:12] policies that have failed in
[2:23:15] the past.
[2:23:15] The fda has asked and opposed
[2:23:20] cooperation with county public
[2:23:20] health departments questions
[2:23:24] that can determine whether
[2:23:25] the policy was necessary in
[2:23:26] the first place or whether it
[2:23:29] would resolve the problem at
[2:23:29] hand.
[2:23:30] They don't.
[2:23:30] The city's marijuana
[2:23:34] legalization expansion policy
[2:23:35] is a perfect example.
[2:23:36] It should have been clear from
[2:23:38] the beginning that attempting
[2:23:39] to partner with an addictive
[2:23:40] drug industry was destined to
[2:23:44] fail at regulating itself.
[2:23:44] The ordinance and the industry
[2:23:49] became undeterred undermined by
[2:23:49] corruption and unethical
[2:23:50] conduct.
[2:23:53] Well beyond monitoring.
[2:23:54] Ironically, The New York Times
[2:23:55] once an advocate on marijuana
[2:23:58] commercialization, has
[2:23:59] acknowledged that marijuana
[2:23:59] became too potent.
[2:24:02] What did they expect?
[2:24:03] Of course industry addiction
[2:24:04] industries like alcohol,
[2:24:08] tobacco now marijuana strive to
[2:24:08] increase their potency of
[2:24:09] products.
[2:24:12] Then year ago city and County
[2:24:13] both collaborated with
[2:24:14] the industry to increase
[2:24:17] availability and allow rapid
[2:24:18] changes in marijuana products
[2:24:22] Selling Bud along with highly
[2:24:22] concentrated vape cartridges,
[2:24:23] gummies, edibles, waxes and
[2:24:27] beverages infused with
[2:24:28] the psychoactive compound thc.
[2:24:32] These newer products evolve to
[2:24:37] max to engineer maximum thc to
[2:24:37] be used conveniently and
[2:24:38] discreetly.
[2:24:41] Of course concern is for our
[2:24:42] adolescents whose brains are
[2:24:43] still developing and are more
[2:24:46] vulnerable to the effects of
[2:24:47] repeated exposures to high
[2:24:47] levels of thc.
[2:24:52] Regulation are are supposed to
[2:24:53] allow for public education and
[2:24:59] teaching but concluded next to
[2:24:59] sound for nine nine.
[2:25:00] If you can please unmute.
[2:25:08] After that is Blair Beekman.
[2:25:09] >> Apology 7499 If you can
[2:25:14] please unmute.
[2:25:15] Bob does this get here?
[2:25:16] I'm going to read from several
[2:25:16] letters written to Joe LaCava
[2:25:17] regarding the Torrey Pines
[2:25:19] Light report.
[2:25:19] i'll start with this 2021
[2:25:20] letter written from the Horry
[2:25:21] Town Council.
[2:25:22] Quote On APRIL 8th, 2021
[2:25:23] the committee reported its
[2:25:23] findings to lgc which
[2:25:27] unanimously supported that
[2:25:27] the City of San Diego
[2:25:28] reconvened the Torrey Pines
[2:25:28] Advisory Board.
[2:25:29] We are requesting that the City
[2:25:33] of San Diego consider whether
[2:25:33] the solo pilot suppliers should
[2:25:34] have to pay annual membership
[2:25:38] fees or cost of insurance to
[2:25:39] fly the glider for end quote.
[2:25:39] Next is a letter from
[2:25:40] the Higher Shores Association
[2:25:42] on NOVEMBER 13th, 2025.
[2:25:43] Quote The Lahaina Shores
[2:25:43] Association respectfully submit
[2:25:46] this letter in support of
[2:25:47] establishing the Torrey Pines
[2:25:48] City Park Advisory Board and
[2:25:48] its role in overseeing
[2:25:52] operations at the Torrey Pines
[2:25:52] y Airport.
[2:25:53] Our association believes this
[2:25:54] matter is vital to the safety
[2:25:56] of park users, visitors and
[2:25:57] the surrounding community.
[2:25:58] We encourage the city of San
[2:25:58] Diego to carefully evaluate
[2:26:01] where the solo flier pilots
[2:26:02] should be required to pay
[2:26:02] annual membership fees and or
[2:26:03] maintain insurance coverage to
[2:26:06] fly at the glider airport end
[2:26:06] quote.
[2:26:07] Next letter is from
[2:26:07] the University Community
[2:26:10] Planning Group Quote On MARCH
[2:26:10] 10th, 2026, the U.S. Passed
[2:26:14] the following resolution quote
[2:26:15] where whereas Torrey Pines City
[2:26:16] Park has unique and
[2:26:16] irreplaceable natural resources
[2:26:19] and.
[2:26:19] Whereas, citizen input over
[2:26:20] these resources is both
[2:26:21] appropriate and timely,
[2:26:21] the University Community
[2:26:24] planning Group recommends that
[2:26:24] the city establish a Torrey
[2:26:27] Pines City Park Advisory Board
[2:26:28] under Charter Section 43 to
[2:26:29] advise the city on planning
[2:26:29] maintenance and operation of
[2:26:33] Torrey Pines City Park end
[2:26:33] quote.
[2:26:34] Finally this is a second letter
[2:26:36] from your town council on
[2:26:37] AUGUST 13th 2026 while you were
[2:26:37] on vacation.
[2:26:38] Quote the law your town council
[2:26:41] respectfully submit this letter
[2:26:42] in support of reactivating
[2:26:43] the Torrey Pines City Park
[2:26:45] Advisory Board under City
[2:26:46] Charter Section 43 and its
[2:26:47] essential role in providing
[2:26:47] oversight of operations at
[2:26:50] Torrey Pines Flight Report.
[2:26:51] Torrey Pines City Park Advisory
[2:26:52] Board should be tasked with
[2:26:53] advising the city on matters of
[2:26:55] safety and fair access to
[2:26:55] the Torrey Pines City Park.
[2:26:56] Matters of fair access should
[2:26:59] include a review of whether
[2:27:00] solo flier pilots should be
[2:27:00] required to maintain annual
[2:27:01] membership fees and or
[2:27:04] individual insurance coverage
[2:27:05] as a condition of flying
[2:27:06] the glider for end quote.
[2:27:06] Joe LaCava.
[2:27:09] Why are you ignoring all of
[2:27:10] these important local
[2:27:14] organizations?
[2:27:15] >> Why your time did conclude
[2:27:18] Blair Beckman If you can please
[2:27:23] unmute.
[2:27:23] >> Hi, Thank you.
[2:27:24] Blair Beekman.
[2:27:24] Thank you for that beginning of
[2:27:27] our meetings today.
[2:27:28] I wanted to thank Anthony for
[2:27:28] his work.
[2:27:32] He's bringing light to hpr and
[2:27:36] surveillance technology issues
[2:27:37] overall in San Diego the same
[2:27:42] time he was a council in
[2:27:42] the past few weeks with his
[2:27:43] showing what he can do well.
[2:27:51] There was also on on npr Radio
[2:27:52] in San Diego ktvu kpbs It was
[2:27:56] it was National you know
[2:27:57] consider pr week Do we do we
[2:28:01] leave hpr Weekly?
[2:28:02] How can we live our.
[2:28:05] It was a week to do that and
[2:28:06] npr and and kpbs picked up on
[2:28:07] that.
[2:28:11] They were covering stories.
[2:28:12] Should we be leaving?
[2:28:12] Aoki argues.
[2:28:13] That's an amazing concept.
[2:28:15] I think.
[2:28:16] And for all the years I've been
[2:28:17] talking to you guys trying to
[2:28:19] be accountable more
[2:28:20] responsible, good policy
[2:28:21] practices, open policies,
[2:28:25] working with community more.
[2:28:26] There's a part I'm not offering
[2:28:29] enough and that technology
[2:28:30] overall is really uncomfortable
[2:28:31] to a lot of people.
[2:28:34] And when you sit here and say
[2:28:35] how wonderful and magical
[2:28:39] billboards are each each year,
[2:28:40] each time it makes people
[2:28:41] really uncomfortable.
[2:28:44] For the most part our
[2:28:45] technology future is not that
[2:28:46] much of a price.
[2:28:49] And I think there's more of a
[2:28:50] price at this time in how to
[2:28:51] talk about the open accountable
[2:28:54] democratic process.
[2:28:55] And you guys I really hope want
[2:28:55] to make these efforts this fall
[2:28:58] towards such efforts.
[2:28:59] You know, with all the election
[2:29:03] issues I hope is real talk
[2:29:04] about accountability and
[2:29:04] working with the community on
[2:29:05] the future of our cec.
[2:29:08] How do we talk about the future
[2:29:09] of Waymo?
[2:29:09] I think we're all uncomfortable
[2:29:10] with that subject.
[2:29:13] I think there's ways to better
[2:29:14] talk about how we can have a
[2:29:17] trial period for them and then
[2:29:18] a real serious public process
[2:29:19] if they should be here in
[2:29:19] the future or not.
[2:29:23] We can do that.
[2:29:23] >> We have the ability to say
[2:29:24] no to technology.
[2:29:25] Let's do things well.
[2:29:27] Guys, thank you.
[2:29:28] Concluded John if you can
[2:29:28] please unmute.
[2:29:29] After that is not only asking
[2:29:32] John.
[2:29:33] >> Good afternoon.
[2:29:40] Oh MAY not be able to hear me.
[2:29:40] You hear me now?
[2:29:41] Yes.
[2:29:41] Please proceed.
[2:29:42] There we go.
[2:29:42] Thank you.
[2:29:44] John Brady lived experience
[2:29:45] advisors.
[2:29:46] I wanted to talk about the safe
[2:29:46] sleeping site.
[2:29:50] We're concerned about where
[2:29:50] we're headed with the safe
[2:29:54] sleeping site in terms of
[2:29:55] quality of life.
[2:29:55] When we supported the initial
[2:29:59] operation it was our
[2:30:00] understanding that it was going
[2:30:01] to be, you know, one maybe, you
[2:30:04] know, 200 individuals or tents
[2:30:09] that were going to be on that
[2:30:09] site And now we are approaching
[2:30:12] just shy of 600.
[2:30:13] In the meantime, we've not
[2:30:13] provided any shade cover.
[2:30:17] We've not provided any ground
[2:30:17] cover.
[2:30:18] I know the city has tons of
[2:30:22] trees and tree limbs that it
[2:30:23] shreds on a regular basis.
[2:30:24] Why can't we just dump some of
[2:30:27] that onto the ground so people
[2:30:27] are not tracking dirt or even
[2:30:31] worse mud into the places that
[2:30:32] they're living in.
[2:30:32] And we see continuous issues
[2:30:36] with people's ability to shower
[2:30:37] with that number of people.
[2:30:38] It appears that our trailers
[2:30:41] have not been expanded for
[2:30:42] showers as well as access to
[2:30:46] and from the facility via
[2:30:47] the provided electric
[2:30:47] transport.
[2:30:51] I really am concerned
[2:30:52] the direction that we're
[2:30:52] headed.
[2:30:56] We've decided not to build any
[2:30:57] formal shelter since the mega
[2:31:01] shelter proposal.
[2:31:02] And with this administration
[2:31:06] we've laid a pretty pretty bare
[2:31:06] bones example of what an
[2:31:11] internment camp could be as an
[2:31:12] operating function if if that's
[2:31:12] the direction it truly decides
[2:31:15] to head which seems to be all
[2:31:16] indicators forcing homeless
[2:31:16] people into some sort of
[2:31:20] containment facility ice.
[2:31:25] >> So I really think that we
[2:31:26] need to look at you know, when
[2:31:26] we saw the budget lines
[2:31:29] presented, you know, there was
[2:31:30] ,you know, less than $50 a
[2:31:30] day.
[2:31:31] The question needs to be is
[2:31:34] that really adequate?
[2:31:35] Are we treating people
[2:31:36] humanely, cramming them into
[2:31:39] these facilities when
[2:31:40] originally we talked about
[2:31:40] small encampments around
[2:31:44] the city, not one large sided
[2:31:44] location.
[2:31:45] >> But now over 600.
[2:31:48] Natalie Raskin If you can
[2:31:52] please unmute your immediate we
[2:32:03] do not hear you.
[2:32:09] Hello.
[2:32:09] Sorry.
[2:32:10] Your mike does not seem to be
[2:32:13] working.
[2:32:14] You will have to move on to
[2:32:17] the next caller and we'll try
[2:32:17] one more time.
[2:32:22] I see that you're in a meeting
[2:32:23] but the device that you're
[2:32:24] speaking into MAY be muted as
[2:32:26] well.
[2:32:27] We will have to move on to
[2:32:31] the next caller.
[2:32:32] Call in user two if you can
[2:32:36] please unmute.
[2:32:41] >> Hi.
[2:32:42] I am concerned about collection
[2:32:43] of city council members
[2:32:48] physically just stupid whopping
[2:32:48] old giddy gleeful Perry Como
[2:32:53] What mother Julia Colbert
[2:32:54] the eccentric moneybags and I'm
[2:32:55] now crippled but the fear as
[2:33:01] you feel would sleep on them
[2:33:02] laying low Hola Just not happy
[2:33:03] to pay for a car but probably
[2:33:04] why one of his political
[2:33:05] opponents Well tell me what
[2:33:06] feels in California If you go
[2:33:07] back to New Jersey, New York
[2:33:11] you go up a big floppy county.
[2:33:14] >> got it all next says
[2:33:15] Madison.
[2:33:19] If you can please unmute it.
[2:33:19] Hi, good afternoon.
[2:33:24] City Council I want to remind
[2:33:25] the Council that when we talk
[2:33:25] about cannabis policy we cannot
[2:33:29] lose sight of the kids that are
[2:33:30] growing up in this environment.
[2:33:34] We are creating a teenager's
[2:33:35] brain is still developing into
[2:33:35] their mid-twenties.
[2:33:36] Cannabis can affect memory
[2:33:40] attention learning, decision
[2:33:40] making and coordination and
[2:33:45] teens who use cannabis are more
[2:33:45] likely to experience problems
[2:33:46] such as cannabis use disorder
[2:33:50] and difficulties Completing
[2:33:50] school.
[2:33:51] But the consequences are more
[2:33:55] than just statistics because
[2:33:56] for a young person losing
[2:33:56] motivation can mean falling
[2:34:00] behind in school and poor
[2:34:00] judgment can mean getting
[2:34:01] behind the wheel impaired
[2:34:06] Regular use can turn into more
[2:34:06] and become a dependance issue
[2:34:07] And for some young people
[2:34:11] cannabis use is associated with
[2:34:11] serious mental health
[2:34:12] consequences including
[2:34:12] psychosis.
[2:34:16] As adults we have a
[2:34:17] responsibility to make sure our
[2:34:18] children understand that
[2:34:21] marijuana is not harmless
[2:34:21] simply because it is available
[2:34:22] to adults.
[2:34:23] San Diego can be a leader in
[2:34:27] prevention by investing in
[2:34:27] evidence based youth education,
[2:34:32] supporting parents and schools
[2:34:32] ,enforcing protections around
[2:34:33] cannabis businesses and making
[2:34:34] sure prevention doesn't get
[2:34:37] treated as an afterthought.
[2:34:38] We spend enormous resources
[2:34:39] helping people recover after
[2:34:43] substance use has caused
[2:34:43] damage.
[2:34:44] I hope we will remember that
[2:34:44] preventing that damage in
[2:34:48] the first place especially for
[2:34:49] children and teenagers is one
[2:34:49] of the best investments
[2:34:50] the city can.
[2:34:54] Thank you.
[2:34:54] >> Thank you.
[2:34:59] Remember back and please unmute
[2:34:59] .
[2:35:00] >> Hi, good afternoon again I'm
[2:35:04] in the district seven.
[2:35:05] I'm so first I wanted to bring
[2:35:09] up I just found out about
[2:35:10] recently like a couple of
[2:35:11] months ago about this program
[2:35:15] the keep Homeland Security
[2:35:15] grant program that's
[2:35:16] administered through fema.
[2:35:20] Apparently it's a $1 billion
[2:35:24] program and we as a big city
[2:35:25] receive funds from this program
[2:35:26] through the u.
[2:35:31] A I urban area security
[2:35:31] initiative.
[2:35:35] I actually when I first learned
[2:35:36] about it in early JULY, I put
[2:35:37] in a public records request and
[2:35:41] it's been delayed now three
[2:35:41] different times.
[2:35:42] So from JULY 9th they've now
[2:35:46] delayed until SEPTEMBER 1st.
[2:35:47] I don't know if that's normal.
[2:35:48] I haven't done a ton of public
[2:35:51] record requests yet.
[2:35:52] I've done a few and I've never
[2:35:53] taken this long.
[2:35:54] And I just wanted to bring that
[2:35:57] up.
[2:35:58] Secondly, I'll just read and I
[2:35:59] read this to you guys before
[2:35:59] but I'm just going to keep
[2:36:03] coming back and reading it.
[2:36:04] I'm in a city full of sailors,
[2:36:09] soldiers and veterans.
[2:36:10] It absolutely disgusting that
[2:36:10] our city council so easily
[2:36:15] decimates the Fourth Amendment
[2:36:16] protections that our military
[2:36:19] families sacrifice for bled for
[2:36:27] and died to protect.
[2:36:28] >> That concludes your
[2:36:28] comments.
[2:36:29] No, sorry.
[2:36:29] I'm okay.
[2:36:33] I I'm going to help them with
[2:36:33] practice.
[2:36:34] They're taking the economy on
[2:36:34] purpose.
[2:36:35] So small farms, small
[2:36:38] businesses fail and big
[2:36:38] corporations can buy scraps and
[2:36:39] monopolize exports even more.
[2:36:40] They're running up our national
[2:36:44] debt while they still can so
[2:36:45] they can go through defense
[2:36:45] contracts and corporate tax
[2:36:46] cuts even removing required
[2:36:50] social support and removing
[2:36:51] social support and services so
[2:36:51] they have more money to
[2:36:52] embezzle and defense contracts
[2:36:52] and tax cuts.
[2:36:56] They're creating a surveillance
[2:36:56] system and desensitizing
[2:36:57] massive paramilitary on
[2:36:58] the streets of the rebellion
[2:37:02] When the air bubble pops.
[2:37:03] Our fallen kids evaporate in
[2:37:04] places devastated.
[2:37:04] The people have nothing to lose
[2:37:08] by rebelling because nothing
[2:37:08] like history.
[2:37:09] >> Smash and grab robbery.
[2:37:09] I'm sorry your time has
[2:37:10] concluded.
[2:37:10] Great.
[2:37:13] Thank you.
[2:37:13] Catherine Douglas and then
[2:37:14] Fannie after that.
[2:37:19] Hello.
[2:37:19] >> Hello.
[2:37:20] Yes, I can hear you.
[2:37:20] Okay.
[2:37:21] Patricia Filet.
[2:37:24] Previously District three now
[2:37:25] District two Old town.
[2:37:26] The supplemental air for San
[2:37:26] Diego is Measure c was found
[2:37:29] legally deficient for failing
[2:37:30] to properly analyze impacts on
[2:37:30] cultural resources and
[2:37:35] neighborhood character in areas
[2:37:36] adjacent to the Midway District
[2:37:36] such as Ultium.
[2:37:37] The review downplayed
[2:37:41] the effects of increased
[2:37:41] density and traffic on historic
[2:37:42] sites leading to a court ruling
[2:37:47] that the city violated Sequoyah
[2:37:48] the city's failure to conduct a
[2:37:48] proper analysis regarding
[2:37:53] Measure c and its resulting
[2:37:53] coastal height limit in
[2:37:54] the Midway District directly
[2:37:59] impacts Presidio Park
[2:37:59] assignments specifically
[2:38:00] recognized as a national
[2:38:05] historic landmark by
[2:38:06] challenging but weakly
[2:38:06] deficient air successfully
[2:38:11] argued that the that
[2:38:12] the environmental review
[2:38:12] treated areas like Presidio
[2:38:17] Park and Old Town as isolated
[2:38:18] islands completely ignoring how
[2:38:22] a wall of high rises in
[2:38:23] neighboring Midway would
[2:38:24] visually and culturally degrade
[2:38:29] a national historic landmark.
[2:38:30] In short, while Measure c
[2:38:30] attempts to adjust municipal
[2:38:35] height boundaries locally.
[2:38:36] Section 106 ensures that
[2:38:36] federal planning standards
[2:38:37] treat Presidio Park as a
[2:38:41] protected asset whose visual
[2:38:41] horizon early California
[2:38:42] landscape and ancestral
[2:38:47] archeology cannot be legally
[2:38:48] disregarded by a full vote.
[2:38:53] Our surrounding neighborhoods
[2:38:53] matter as much as our native
[2:38:54] and descendent voices too For
[2:38:58] any major developments to
[2:38:59] further attempt to erase our
[2:39:05] historic and cultural heritage.
[2:39:05] >> Thank you.
[2:39:05] Thank you.
[2:39:06] Katherine Douglas, if you can
[2:39:06] please.
[2:39:10] I'm you.
[2:39:10] >> I hadn't planned to speak
[2:39:11] this afternoon but I am
[2:39:16] appalled at some of
[2:39:17] the comments regarding Alpers.
[2:39:22] The police department has great
[2:39:23] oversight from multiple
[2:39:23] committees.
[2:39:28] The police department put on a
[2:39:28] technology informational
[2:39:34] technology meeting on I believe
[2:39:35] it was JULY 22nd.
[2:39:38] I happened to go to the one in
[2:39:39] my area.
[2:39:40] There were four officers there.
[2:39:40] There were three people from
[2:39:41] the public.
[2:39:46] There were a few more at Anchor
[2:39:46] Church.
[2:39:47] Most of the as we went through
[2:39:51] the meeting and they explained
[2:39:51] technologies which are super
[2:39:58] important to our public safety
[2:39:58] they're force multipliers where
[2:40:04] 230 officers short as of last
[2:40:04] Wednesday maybe even shorter
[2:40:05] today.
[2:40:10] But did any of those people go
[2:40:10] to those meetings?
[2:40:11] Did any of those people learn
[2:40:12] about the technology?
[2:40:16] Do any of those people Basham
[2:40:17] and Alpers realize that
[2:40:22] everybody has on everybody has
[2:40:22] a smartphone.
[2:40:23] A lot of people have Apple
[2:40:23] watches.
[2:40:27] People have ring cameras and
[2:40:28] public safety surveillance
[2:40:34] cameras on their homes and
[2:40:34] businesses.
[2:40:35] You're being surveilled all
[2:40:35] the time.
[2:40:40] The technology this particular
[2:40:41] technology just caught someone
[2:40:41] who shot into a crowded
[2:40:46] restaurant and injured someone
[2:40:47] with a gun Last week that
[2:40:52] happened to be in Vista But it
[2:40:52] happens in San Diego And they
[2:40:53] because of Alpers they were
[2:40:58] able to catch the suspect.
[2:40:58] He's been charged with
[2:40:59] attempted murder and he's
[2:41:04] probably going to jail.
[2:41:04] So I caution people to learn
[2:41:11] about the technology before
[2:41:11] they speak without
[2:41:12] understanding it.
[2:41:12] Thank you.
[2:41:13] Thank you.
[2:41:17] That is funny.
[2:41:18] Esquivel The next speaker is
[2:41:19] Fannie Esquivel who has
[2:41:19] requested translation fantasy
[2:41:23] before that idea is allowed in
[2:41:28] France's courts before
[2:41:28] Parliament.
[2:41:34] >> When a service member goes
[2:41:35] it's funny as we communion in a
[2:41:40] way that Good afternoon members
[2:41:40] of the San Diego City Council.
[2:41:41] >> My name is and I am here
[2:41:42] today as a member of
[2:41:44] the community a concerned
[2:41:52] member of the community of Soda
[2:41:53] is a product of the tobacco tax
[2:41:57] and using dairy.
[2:41:58] >> I'm concerned because of
[2:41:58] the tobacco product litter that
[2:41:59] is scattered throughout my
[2:42:01] neighborhood.
[2:42:12] >> We see what this is.
[2:42:12] My children and grandchildren
[2:42:13] are curious about the cigaret
[2:42:14] butts and pick them up to play
[2:42:14] with them.
[2:42:19] So you have political opponents
[2:42:27] in cities meeting looking to
[2:42:29] put in their little hands and
[2:42:30] clothes become contaminated
[2:42:30] with these toxic substances
[2:42:35] even though they're not smoking
[2:42:35] them By touching these products
[2:42:36] the chemicals can come into
[2:42:37] contact with their bodies and
[2:42:42] consume it.
[2:42:43] >> Yes.
[2:42:44] In the study on tobacco use and
[2:42:48] throwing these products on
[2:42:49] the ground has become
[2:42:49] normalized and that is not
[2:42:50] okay.
[2:42:57] >> And where they put it that
[2:42:57] is because then what are you
[2:43:00] standing against in a context
[2:43:01] of combustion popsicle Instead
[2:43:02] of being able to relax while my
[2:43:03] children and grandchildren play
[2:43:03] outside?
[2:43:08] >> I'm constantly worried that
[2:43:08] they will come into contact
[2:43:09] with this toxic litter.
[2:43:13] But I know that it's important
[2:43:13] that in especially in what is
[2:43:17] seen a little bit most of our
[2:43:17] children deserve to be able to
[2:43:18] play in a clean and safe space
[2:43:19] without the risk of becoming
[2:43:21] sick or being exposed of
[2:43:22] tobacco related substances that
[2:43:28] is toxic that can duplicate
[2:43:29] tobacco.
[2:43:29] But I know so many fundamental
[2:43:34] issues that only that I see
[2:43:39] programs but I'm exactly sick.
[2:43:40] >> The amount of tobacco
[2:43:41] product waste is harmful to our
[2:43:41] environment and our community
[2:43:45] just as there are programs to
[2:43:46] collect and recycle recycle
[2:43:53] hazardous products.
[2:43:54] >> What's the point?
[2:43:58] What is the picture that that
[2:44:03] hazardous product such as
[2:44:03] batteries and motor oil We
[2:44:04] should also implement programs
[2:44:05] to collect and recycle tobacco
[2:44:05] waste.
[2:44:11] For me that is a ticket to
[2:44:12] the polls.
[2:44:16] Some people say But what about
[2:44:16] media?
[2:44:17] >> Our is asking you prioritize
[2:44:20] our community and the health of
[2:44:21] everyone.
[2:44:21] San Diego represents itself as
[2:44:22] a clean, safe and family
[2:44:29] friendly city and in particular
[2:44:29] political.
[2:44:33] >> And as it stands city must
[2:44:33] get to win.
[2:44:34] >> However, our current
[2:44:34] policies do not reflect that
[2:44:35] standard.
[2:44:39] We ask that you take action.
[2:44:40] >> Did I say positive things?
[2:44:40] Thank you for your time and
[2:44:41] attention.
[2:44:45] I'm grateful for our witnesses
[2:44:45] .
[2:44:46] >> Next is Korina Vega.
[2:44:49] If you can please unmute
[2:44:50] District eight.
[2:44:50] I continue to be baffled that
[2:44:51] many necessary programs are
[2:44:56] partially or fully cut off and
[2:44:57] we're constantly told there's
[2:44:57] no money when the department
[2:44:58] year after year increases their
[2:45:02] budget at the expense of every
[2:45:03] citizen safety health
[2:45:03] especially the safety of our
[2:45:04] brown and black brothers and
[2:45:08] sisters who if I remind you are
[2:45:09] seven times more likely to
[2:45:09] experience unnecessary force
[2:45:12] four police officers and nine
[2:45:13] times more to be charged with
[2:45:14] resisting an officer all while
[2:45:18] crime has been down.
[2:45:19] I was at the church meeting
[2:45:20] with 15 other comrades for that
[2:45:23] technology presentation and I
[2:45:24] can not support the police
[2:45:25] department or them getting more
[2:45:25] surveillance technology.
[2:45:26] They do not keep all members of
[2:45:30] the community safe.
[2:45:31] The city of San Diego is a
[2:45:32] large community.
[2:45:32] When you aren't true community
[2:45:35] if you see one member
[2:45:36] struggling you balance their
[2:45:36] need by looking at who has an
[2:45:37] excess to share To alleviate
[2:45:42] that need.
[2:45:43] At dpd has enough excess to fix
[2:45:43] our city's budget and then some
[2:45:47] We do not need to invest 2
[2:45:47] million a year with a lpr for
[2:45:48] surveillance like Darth Vader
[2:45:53] supports nor an underwater
[2:45:54] rovers or smart glasses.
[2:45:55] There is no tough call in
[2:45:55] saying that truth.
[2:45:59] The truth that all hail pr
[2:46:00] surveillance is a threat to our
[2:46:00] constitutional rights.
[2:46:05] The whole nation agrees.
[2:46:06] Tony's video has gone viral
[2:46:06] internationally the left,
[2:46:07] the center and the right here
[2:46:11] in this country are in
[2:46:12] agreement that our rights
[2:46:12] matter, our environment matters
[2:46:13] And this technology is not
[2:46:17] about safety but rather 24/7
[2:46:18] surveillance to keep the rebel
[2:46:18] scum in check.
[2:46:23] Like in any dictatorship there
[2:46:23] are enough billions in
[2:46:24] the world to take a moral
[2:46:25] stance and please be a hero.
[2:46:30] >> Thank you.
[2:46:31] Our next speaker is Roseanne
[2:46:37] Barr started by opening
[2:46:38] Parabolas which will crossover
[2:46:42] across the translation.
[2:46:49] >> Like what?
[2:46:49] I'm.
[2:46:50] What about cutting open it?
[2:46:50] Why not?
[2:46:54] Like I said when you know.
[2:47:00] Good afternoon to City council
[2:47:01] My name is Roseanne.
[2:47:02] Can also be the funny bone and
[2:47:03] people it's not that typically
[2:47:10] member of the community.
[2:47:10] I'm here as a constituent a
[2:47:12] concerned mother about tobacco
[2:47:13] product waste on the streets of
[2:47:19] San Diego.
[2:47:29] The folks that call my mother
[2:47:33] generally in uniform people
[2:47:38] from discarded tobacco products
[2:47:39] are not just litter they're
[2:47:43] most commonly littered consumer
[2:47:43] waste product in the world and
[2:47:44] preventable source of plastic
[2:47:48] pollution That's going to
[2:47:56] become apparent.
[2:47:57] Also pretty interesting that
[2:47:59] people will the exposure to
[2:47:59] toxic chemicals and increase in
[2:48:00] cleanup costs to cities like
[2:48:12] San Diego With that in on our
[2:48:18] fans and what it can throw
[2:48:22] people making or farming one
[2:48:26] way that we know what I bet
[2:48:27] people do not realize that
[2:48:27] tobacco litter contaminates our
[2:48:28] water our land and environment.
[2:48:33] For example, in my building my
[2:48:34] upstairs neighbors smoke When
[2:48:34] they finish they throw their
[2:48:35] cigaret their cigaret waste
[2:48:36] outside their home.
[2:48:44] >> I think I'll be honest i
[2:48:50] pick them to be the nails in my
[2:48:55] as I get on to something before
[2:48:56] it becomes as much attention as
[2:49:00] I get it and it ends up inside
[2:49:01] the homes below They do not
[2:49:02] recognize how their actions
[2:49:02] affect the lives of the people
[2:49:09] around them And a baby was just
[2:49:09] born with a heart defect.
[2:49:13] They know somebody I tell them
[2:49:18] to be.
[2:49:28] I don't think they can And then
[2:49:29] and science has shown us
[2:49:30] the consequences of tobacco use
[2:49:30] including exposure to
[2:49:33] secondhand smoke.
[2:49:34] >> We have to protect children
[2:49:34] from the harm caused by
[2:49:42] tobacco, nicotine influence
[2:49:43] things in anything we politic.
[2:49:47] I think that lacking in some
[2:49:48] evil form very thankful for
[2:49:57] that think this is what we can
[2:49:58] do We ask that you take action
[2:49:58] and implement a policy that
[2:49:59] helps protect the people of San
[2:50:00] Diego from the harm caused by
[2:50:00] tobacco.
[2:50:01] Thank you for your time and
[2:50:03] attention and I just want that
[2:50:03] does conclude on agenda public
[2:50:04] comment for today's meeting.
[2:50:04] >> All right.
[2:50:05] Thank you.
[2:50:09] City clerk With that will turn
[2:50:09] it over to the office of
[2:50:10] the city attorney Is there
[2:50:10] anything to report out in
[2:50:11] closed session?
[2:50:14] There's nothing to report
[2:50:14] today.
[2:50:15] All right.
[2:50:15] Thank you for that.
[2:50:16] And with that we will now
[2:50:16] adjourn council to
[2:50:19] the regularly scheduled council
[2:50:23] meeting on Tuesday AUGUST 25th,