[12:16] the mayor has been away for
[14:17] just a little
[17:44] .
[17:44] >> All right.
[17:45] Good morning.
[17:45] We're going to get started.
[17:46] Always great way to kick off a
[17:49] Tuesday with our proclamations
[17:50] and a very happy crowd.
[17:51] So with that I will call
[17:56] the city council meeting of
[17:56] Tuesday AUGUST 25th 2026 to
[17:57] order Clerk Please call
[17:57] the roll.
[17:58] Thank you.
[18:02] Council PRESIDENT Council
[18:03] Member Campbell Councilmember
[18:03] Whitburn Member Foster Council
[18:10] Everyone over from Council
[18:10] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[18:11] Councilmember Campo
[18:12] Councilmember Moreno
[18:13] Councilmember Ella Rivera and
[18:20] Council PRESIDENT Look over
[18:20] here also thank the media our
[18:21] city attorney Heather Herbert,
[18:22] independent media analyst
[18:25] Charles Maka council PRESIDENT
[18:26] And the mayor's office
[18:27] co-designer and myself for city
[18:27] clerk Diana Fuentes.
[18:31] Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[18:32] Trump if you know All right
[18:33] with that a quorum is now
[18:37] present.
[18:37] We will begin this morning with
[18:38] the land acknowledgment and
[18:39] the Pledge of Allegiance led by
[18:40] we have the paperwork Council
[18:47] member Campbell please stand if
[18:47] you're able.
[18:48] >> We respectfully acknowledge
[18:52] that the committee nation or
[18:53] the original inhabitants of
[18:53] the Unceded land now known as
[18:58] San Diego Despite enduring
[18:59] the horrors of genocide and
[19:00] colonization, the Kumi spirit
[19:04] remains unbroken.
[19:05] We honor the resilience of
[19:06] their ancestors who fought to
[19:10] protect their culture and land.
[19:11] Today they carry their legacy
[19:15] forward ensuring that their
[19:16] traditions continue to thrive
[19:16] and gratitude and strength We
[19:21] stand with the culmination
[19:22] connected to our past and
[19:26] committed to a thriving future
[19:27] .
[19:27] Please raise the flag.
[19:28] Put your right hand over your
[19:33] heart and let's begin.
[19:33] Allegiance to the flag of
[19:34] the United States of America
[19:38] and to the Republic for which
[19:39] it stands One nation under GOD,
[19:40] indivisible with liberty and
[19:47] justice for all.
[19:48] So please go over how
[19:48] the public can offer their
[19:53] testimony.
[19:54] Thank you.
[19:55] Council PRESIDENT I would like
[19:55] to highlight the slide on
[19:56] the screen that reveals how
[19:56] the public can offer their
[19:58] public testimony during today's
[19:58] meeting.
[19:59] Please note the time
[19:59] allocations for proclamations
[20:00] and consent items for meeting
[20:04] management purposes The order
[20:04] can be found on the agenda
[20:05] summary and found online at
[20:06] the table in the back of
[20:06] the room.
[20:09] If you are in person please
[20:10] complete the speaker slip
[20:10] located at the entrance of
[20:11] chambers and bring it to
[20:11] the front of the room in
[20:15] the clear box For those that
[20:16] have submitted and organize
[20:16] presentation for an item on
[20:17] today's agenda please be sure
[20:20] to have all of your identified
[20:21] participants present when
[20:21] the item is introduced and if
[20:22] you have a virtual organized
[20:25] presentation please ensure you
[20:26] all have your identified
[20:26] participants raise their hand
[20:27] when prompted.
[20:27] Council ambassadors are
[20:31] available near the entrance of
[20:32] chambers and can assist with
[20:32] questions and speakers ups No
[20:33] further in-person testimony
[20:36] will be taken once the Council
[20:37] begins Virtual testimony.
[20:38] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[20:38] right.
[20:38] Thank you.
[20:39] And as a friendly reminder at
[20:41] the end of this morning session
[20:42] we will be taking our agenda
[20:43] public comment where you can
[20:43] speak on items within
[20:47] the city's purview But when you
[20:48] speak on docket items, a
[20:48] friendly reminder to speak to
[20:52] the docket item.
[20:53] We will now dispense with
[20:53] the approval of
[20:57] the proclamation items and for
[20:58] the record on item 30 we will
[20:58] be including Councilmember
[21:03] Foster as one of the presenters
[21:06] for the Item 30 proclamation
[21:07] With that clerk please proceed
[21:08] with public comment.
[21:08] >> Thank you.
[21:12] Council PRESIDENT.
[21:13] The proclamation for the call
[21:14] and prayer for the proclamation
[21:14] items is now open.
[21:16] Each speaker will have one
[21:17] minute per item per person.
[21:17] If you would like to speak on
[21:18] three or more items you will
[21:21] have a maximum of three
[21:22] minutes.
[21:22] Those participating virtually
[21:23] that are part of an organized
[21:26] presentation we actually have
[21:26] one organized presentation in
[21:27] proximity and it is in person
[21:28] but the proclamation items
[21:32] being approved are items 3031
[21:32] and 32.
[21:37] We will begin the public
[21:37] comment period with organized
[21:38] presentations that were
[21:39] submitted via the city's
[21:43] organized presentation web
[21:43] form.
[21:44] Organized presentation requires
[21:44] all the participants to be
[21:45] present and raise their hand if
[21:47] all participants are not
[21:48] present, do not raise their
[21:48] hand the allotted time MAY be
[21:52] reduced accordingly.
[21:53] Once organized presentations
[21:53] have concluded, no further
[21:54] organized presentations will be
[21:57] taken and one organized
[21:57] presentation has been submitted
[21:58] for item 30 and is led by
[22:02] Michelle Ceccarelli or my co
[22:02] Sugar.
[22:07] Yes please approach electing a
[22:07] total of five individuals were
[22:08] listed as part of this
[22:11] organized presentation.
[22:12] Will the following individuals
[22:12] who have registered as a part
[22:13] of this presentation raise
[22:16] their hand when your name is
[22:17] called and Smith Michael's okay
[22:21] Sam Serrano and Corrine Wilson
[22:22] thank you so much.
[22:26] You will have five minutes.
[22:26] Please proceed.
[22:27] Thank you and good morning.
[22:31] My name is Michelle Ceccarelli
[22:31] and I've been the meaa
[22:34] PRESIDENT Since 2022.
[22:35] It's my honor.
[22:39] I have been a city of San Diego
[22:40] employee for the Parks and
[22:43] Recreation Department for 37
[22:43] years.
[22:44] I am currently an area manager
[22:47] in the North Park Recreation
[22:48] Center.
[22:48] I want to thank the mayor and
[22:52] the city Council for their
[22:53] recognition this morning.
[22:57] Today we have with this meaa
[22:58] executive board members
[23:02] gathered behind me.
[23:02] We want to express our
[23:03] appreciation for the work you
[23:07] do every day to support city
[23:11] employees and help give us
[23:12] the tools we need to deliver
[23:15] services to the citizens of San
[23:16] Diego.
[23:16] We take great pride in our work
[23:21] and we're grateful for your
[23:21] support.
[23:22] I also want to recognize our
[23:26] fantastic general manager
[23:30] Michael Zukin who is obviously
[23:31] very familiar to all of you.
[23:35] And finally to turn it over to
[23:36] mta is amazing Longtime
[23:39] attorney and Smith.
[23:40] Thank you.
[23:40] Good morning.
[23:44] Your proclamation today
[23:44] perfectly captures the essence
[23:49] of America's long and
[23:49] distinguished role as city
[23:54] employee advocate and recognize
[23:54] employee organization.
[23:59] So with Jennifer with Michelle
[24:00] ,I happily thank you on behalf
[24:04] of the mta membership its
[24:04] elected city employee
[24:05] leadership and professional
[24:05] staff.
[24:09] I've been Mayor's Labor Council
[24:12] for 41 years having begun in
[24:16] AUGUST of 1985.
[24:17] Maybe before some of you were
[24:17] born.
[24:21] And in that capacity I've
[24:21] watched the mta was elected
[24:26] leadership fully, faithfully
[24:26] and without ever flinching
[24:30] fulfill the promise and
[24:31] commitment of mta to work
[24:35] tirelessly to improve working
[24:35] conditions for city employees
[24:36] and improve their wages and
[24:36] benefits.
[24:40] Your proclamation pays fitting
[24:45] tribute to nea's specific role
[24:46] in advocating for city employee
[24:49] pensions.
[24:50] And even before the landmark
[24:55] Bee case, mta was in the lead
[24:55] in court fighting to defeat
[24:59] city initiated litigation
[25:04] designed to reduce or roll back
[25:04] city employee pensions that had
[25:05] been earned and were vested
[25:10] under California law.
[25:10] And thanks to those successes,
[25:14] thousands of city employees
[25:15] over the past two decades have
[25:16] retired with the benefits that
[25:19] they were promised and had
[25:19] earned.
[25:20] It really would be hard to
[25:24] overstate mta ai's impact and
[25:29] leadership in fighting the Prop
[25:29] b case in order to achieve
[25:34] ultimately the invalidation and
[25:35] and striking of that
[25:35] proposition from the city
[25:39] charter.
[25:39] But what is less known and
[25:43] speaks volumes about mta is
[25:44] that the city employee leaders
[25:48] who made the decision to fight
[25:53] and fund that long legal battle
[25:53] were not themselves adversely
[25:58] affected by Prop b They were
[25:58] already employed and they had a
[25:59] defined benefit pension.
[26:03] So their decision was for
[26:04] the sake of those who would
[26:04] come after them.
[26:08] And by the time we had success
[26:08] ten years later more than half
[26:12] of set of mta as represented
[26:13] workforce had been denied a
[26:16] defined benefit pension and
[26:17] then had it restored to them
[26:21] made all the more important
[26:21] because city employees do not
[26:22] have the safety net of Social
[26:23] Security.
[26:26] And not just mta represented
[26:27] employees but firefighters and
[26:28] lifeguards.
[26:32] Deputy city attorneys asked me
[26:32] represented employees and even
[26:33] the unrepresented in
[26:37] the citizens residents of San
[26:37] Diego though they don't often
[26:38] appreciate it.
[26:41] They too were the winners as
[26:42] your proclamation recognizes
[26:46] because the invalidation of
[26:46] property restored the city's
[26:51] capacity to recruit and retain
[26:51] qualified employees.
[26:52] So let the next hundred years
[26:56] begin as mta continues its
[26:56] distinguished legacy as a
[27:00] champion of city employees.
[27:01] So thank you.
[27:05] Thank you.
[27:06] >> Thank you.
[27:07] We'll now move on to in-person
[27:10] public comment individual
[27:11] in-person public comment If
[27:11] Joyce initiative can please
[27:15] come forward.
[27:16] You're speaking on items 30 and
[27:20] 31 Joyce Sonata if you can
[27:21] please come forward to
[27:21] the lectern.
[27:24] >> You'll be speaking on item
[27:25] 30 and 31.
[27:28] You'll have two minutes after
[27:28] that It will be allegedly
[27:32] addressed.
[27:38] >> Good morning, everyone.
[27:38] This is a wonderful day.
[27:39] Okay.
[27:42] On 30.
[27:47] My favorite whereas is this
[27:47] where as without city employees
[27:51] there are no city services And
[27:52] when workers experience
[27:57] fairness in the workplace they
[28:01] can extend and uphold it in
[28:01] their daily tasks.
[28:02] On behalf of the residents I
[28:06] love that so much.
[28:07] So this morning I had the great
[28:11] honor of meeting Michelle and
[28:12] and Sian and I had never met
[28:16] them before.
[28:17] So all of you at meaa, I'm
[28:18] going to highlight to people
[28:21] now that I know from my work
[28:22] but I want you to know that
[28:25] everything I say about these
[28:26] two people is the same for you.
[28:29] So I'd like to highlight two
[28:30] meaa leaders two very, very
[28:34] fine human beings and
[28:39] professionals par excellence
[28:40] Our Michael Zoo Cat MR. Zoo
[28:40] Cat.
[28:45] He's the gentle manager of
[28:45] the meaa And Kathleen Higgins.
[28:49] I'm here and I hope you are.
[28:50] I'd love to see you.
[28:50] And she's the labor relations
[28:54] officer at meaa.
[28:58] So thank you both for your
[28:59] enormous contribution to all
[28:59] the people of San Diego.
[29:03] And of course also thank you to
[29:08] all other meaa workers And
[29:09] you're just absolutely great.
[29:09] We need you more than ever.
[29:10] Love to all.
[29:12] Now on 31 I'm celebrating
[29:16] AUGUST 20th, 26th as
[29:16] Transgender Month.
[29:20] Here's what I like from Google
[29:20] .
[29:24] Transgender people, non-binary
[29:25] individuals and third gender
[29:25] roles have been documented in
[29:30] culture and societies worldwide
[29:30] for thousands of years.
[29:35] That's thousands of years end
[29:35] of quote.
[29:41] Native Americans call them to
[29:41] Spirit.
[29:42] Thank you for that concluding
[29:42] statement Dignity to gently
[29:47] order Love to you.
[29:47] >> You're speaking on 3031 and
[29:48] 32 so you'll have three
[29:48] minutes.
[29:52] Please proceed.
[29:52] >> >> Yeah, I think it's good
[29:57] to have these employee
[29:57] associations because I think
[29:58] there needs to be
[30:01] accountability within
[30:01] the workplace.
[30:02] But I kind of wonder when
[30:05] you're talking about fairness
[30:06] in the workplace and
[30:07] prohibiting bias based on race
[30:11] when the way things are being
[30:12] pushed with equity it's like
[30:13] we're actually being racist by
[30:16] saying only you know like
[30:17] basically don't hire white
[30:17] people.
[30:21] And it's just weird to me And
[30:22] then I think about covid and
[30:22] how many employees didn't want
[30:25] to get a vaccination And I'm
[30:26] wondering if they were fighting
[30:30] for those employees or was it
[30:31] only ones that were in line?
[30:34] You know, the way that they
[30:35] were thinking because a lot of
[30:39] people lost their jobs during
[30:40] that time And so it's just a
[30:41] little bit sad that it's
[30:45] probably not always, you know,
[30:45] fairness that they are creating
[30:46] in that because that's creating
[30:50] bias And then this is
[30:50] unfortunate Transgender History
[30:55] Month.
[30:55] So I think adults should be
[30:56] able to do whatever they want.
[30:59] But when we encroach into
[31:00] the lives of children and we
[31:04] encourage them to cut off their
[31:05] body parts and put hormones
[31:09] into their bodies when they are
[31:10] extremely young like even four
[31:10] years old that is so
[31:13] detrimental to them and their
[31:14] ability to grow up and be able
[31:18] to function properly.
[31:19] And it's sad because it also,
[31:20] you know, sets them up for
[31:23] lifelong pain and different
[31:24] things.
[31:24] If you talk to a lot of these
[31:28] children who have gone through
[31:29] transitions and they're
[31:30] extremely upset that they did
[31:33] there's women who cut off their
[31:34] and then get pregnant and they
[31:35] can't even breastfeed And it's
[31:37] extremely painful because they
[31:38] get milk inside their And it's
[31:39] like all of these things they
[31:42] say are reversible and they're
[31:43] not And I think it's dangerous
[31:44] to do that to children because
[31:47] we're also sexualizing them And
[31:48] that leads to, you know,
[31:52] pedophiles running rampant like
[31:53] they do in this legal
[31:54] administrative assistant.
[31:58] It's interesting how we pay for
[31:58] like the city attorney And you
[32:02] know, any time that people want
[32:03] to go after what the government
[32:04] does, it's like we got to go in
[32:07] our own pocket Yet you guys go
[32:08] in our pockets when we have to
[32:08] fight you too.
[32:12] And if we win that money just
[32:12] comes from us anyway.
[32:16] So it's interesting that we pay
[32:17] for these things and we can't
[32:17] use them.
[32:18] It's not like we can go in
[32:21] there and be like Hey can we
[32:22] get some help?
[32:23] It's like no, this is only to
[32:26] protect this entity.
[32:27] And then when you bring forward
[32:28] things that are like illegal
[32:30] they don't really do their job
[32:31] and tell you that they are.
[32:32] They just kind of try and
[32:36] obfuscate and make excuses as
[32:36] to why it's okay that you guys
[32:37] do the things that you do.
[32:41] So it's just interesting
[32:41] the way things work.
[32:42] I like to, you know, bring
[32:42] light to those things because
[32:45] you guys want to brush it under
[32:46] the rug and make it so that
[32:46] these things are like
[32:47] everything's hunky dory when it
[32:50] really isn't So.
[32:51] >> Good job though.
[32:51] Everybody's going to clap and
[32:52] you guys are going to take your
[32:52] pictures.
[32:55] Same as usual.
[32:56] >> Start of the five minute
[32:57] timer going to those
[32:57] participating remotely.
[33:00] Blair Wickman if you can please
[33:00] unmute and let me know which
[33:01] item or items you wish to speak
[33:05] to.
[33:05] >> Hi.
[33:06] Blair Beekman I wanted to speak
[33:10] to you.
[33:11] I'm waiting for my Google to
[33:11] arrive.
[33:14] Item 30 You'll have one minute.
[33:15] >> Please proceed.
[33:19] Yeah.
[33:19] Thank you.
[33:20] Very nice public comment on
[33:23] item 30 At the beginning an
[33:26] employee association 100th
[33:27] anniversary day.
[33:27] They're trying to do important
[33:31] good work and retirement plans
[33:32] .
[33:32] I think with the same respect
[33:33] we're trying to get retirement
[33:37] plans in San Diego we should
[33:37] also be having towards health
[33:38] benefit plans that is being
[33:42] really questioned in San Diego
[33:42] at this time.
[33:43] Oakland is going through
[33:43] the same thing because they
[33:46] have the same large budget
[33:47] deficit issues forcing health
[33:51] care benefits up on
[33:51] the employees themselves is
[33:55] like it's not very good
[33:56] business.
[33:56] I don't think it's not our
[33:57] ideals And I think we have to
[34:00] consider that.
[34:01] I've continuously mentioned how
[34:01] city employees can take a very
[34:05] small cut and pay 25 bucks a
[34:05] month.
[34:09] That's like 300 bucks a year
[34:09] and that can help pay for our
[34:14] benefit plans And I think those
[34:15] are the sort of morale issues
[34:15] we have to be considering and
[34:19] working on together in defining
[34:20] our future budgets in San
[34:20] Diego.
[34:21] >> Thank you.
[34:24] Thank you.
[34:25] Lori Saldana If you can please
[34:26] unmute please let me know which
[34:29] item or items you wish to speak
[34:29] to.
[34:29] Yes.
[34:30] Good morning.
[34:30] Thank you.
[34:33] Item 30 and 31 please.
[34:37] Please proceed.
[34:38] I as a former city employee I
[34:43] was actually I worked for
[34:43] the city when I was still a
[34:48] high school student and I eight
[34:48] and that was 50 years ago.
[34:51] I have always appreciated
[34:52] the support that they have
[34:57] provided for the workforce and
[34:57] dealing with sometimes
[34:58] troubling incidents And
[35:01] the world is a very different
[35:02] place for those 50 years ago to
[35:06] be city employees.
[35:07] So congratulations on 100 years
[35:11] of advocacy for people who are
[35:12] working And I know from
[35:12] experience not only as an
[35:17] employee but as someone who
[35:21] calls city services that your
[35:21] employees are doing the very
[35:22] best they can under sometimes
[35:25] daunting circumstances.
[35:26] So thank you for your advocacy
[35:30] for your work to keep our city
[35:31] operating and functioning as
[35:35] best it can despite some of our
[35:39] financial and other setbacks.
[35:40] The next item 31 and I and I
[35:41] have to link a connection
[35:44] between these two items because
[35:45] what we see in the transgender
[35:49] community is increasingly
[35:50] vilification and we see that
[35:50] against public employees from
[35:53] time to time And historically
[35:58] we have seen frankly
[36:02] governments seeking to divide
[36:03] the populace, go after union
[36:04] workers, go after transgender
[36:04] people.
[36:08] So I think it's more important
[36:09] than ever to show support in
[36:12] proclamations like this but
[36:13] also in our experience every
[36:17] day of acknowledging the basic
[36:18] dignity and equality of people
[36:18] whatever people take in
[36:22] the workplace and how they
[36:23] choose to live their lives and
[36:27] express themselves.
[36:28] >> So I see some kind of sad
[36:32] linkage between these two
[36:32] proclamations today but I join
[36:36] in acknowledging the municipal
[36:37] employees and also uplifting
[36:37] transgender people.
[36:41] Thank you for that concluding
[36:42] remark.
[36:42] Kathleen Lippert if you can
[36:45] please unmute.
[36:46] Thank you.
[36:46] Good morning.
[36:51] Council.
[36:52] >> Which items will you be
[36:53] speaking on to the employee?
[36:53] I'm sorry, can you hear me?
[36:55] Which items will you be
[36:56] speaking on?
[36:56] Oh, I'm sorry.
[36:56] 30.
[36:57] Thank you.
[36:57] You'll have a minute.
[37:00] Please proceed.
[37:00] >> Okay.
[37:01] There is a little doubt that
[37:02] city employees do an excellent
[37:05] job in providing essential
[37:06] services for the city and
[37:06] the mta does an excellent job
[37:09] serving their interests.
[37:10] However, attention must be paid
[37:14] when an ever widening gap
[37:15] between city employee benefits
[37:15] and the private sector become
[37:19] unsustainable.
[37:20] When mta union influence
[37:20] becomes outsized after
[37:24] relentlessly pushing for ever
[37:25] expanding rights and
[37:29] protections for city employees
[37:30] ,the Office of Budget should
[37:30] monitor that balance.
[37:35] Thank you for letting me speak.
[37:36] >> Thank you Hector.
[37:36] If you can please unmute and
[37:39] let me know which item or items
[37:40] you wish to speak to.
[37:44] >> The transgender item.
[37:45] I will just listen.
[37:46] There's some young girl saying
[37:49] that she says there's three
[37:49] genders.
[37:50] There's the male gender,
[37:54] there's the female gender and
[37:54] there's the mentally ill
[37:55] gender.
[37:59] >> I think the it's an
[37:59] abomination to change kids
[38:00] gender.
[38:04] Whoa.
[38:05] On to Children's Hospital and
[38:05] the doctors and the nurses that
[38:09] participate in that because
[38:09] they're going to meet the Lord
[38:10] one day and they're going to go
[38:10] good.
[38:14] The young kids and change it's
[38:15] abomination to do it.
[38:18] If you're 18 go ahead man.
[38:19] You can do whatever you want
[38:23] But young kids who's ever
[38:24] touching that stuff is going to
[38:24] pay the price.
[38:28] And we've got the blind leading
[38:29] the blind up there anyway on
[38:33] the stage And like we're in a
[38:37] $5 billion debt right with
[38:37] the employees $5 billion in
[38:38] the hole maybe 10 billion by
[38:42] next year Who knows?
[38:46] But anyway, have a good day.
[38:47] >> That concludes public
[38:47] comment on the proclamation.
[38:48] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
[38:48] All right.
[38:49] Thank you.
[38:52] City Clerk.
[38:53] And with that I will kick off
[38:53] the convert and the Council
[38:56] Council conversation on
[38:56] the proclamations and start out
[39:00] with item 30 a 100th
[39:00] anniversary day.
[39:01] A special welcome to mta board
[39:06] PRESIDENT Michelle Ceccarelli
[39:06] general manager Michael we get
[39:07] attorney and Smith and all
[39:10] the executive committee members
[39:11] and the other members that
[39:12] might be in the audience or in
[39:15] the chambers today.
[39:15] City employees are vital to
[39:16] providing the services that San
[39:17] Diegans want and deserve.
[39:20] And simply put there are no
[39:20] city services without our city
[39:24] employees.
[39:25] Mta is an important partner
[39:25] ensuring that the city can
[39:28] recruit and retain quality
[39:28] employees.
[39:29] So the city in turn runs
[39:30] efficiently and responds to San
[39:33] Diego's mta has been at
[39:34] the forefront of key city
[39:37] issues for 100 years providing
[39:38] wise counsel rising from
[39:42] the deep understanding of its
[39:43] members.
[39:44] So simply put thank you mta and
[39:47] all the officers for your
[39:48] service my honor and bringing
[39:51] today forward today is
[39:52] proclamation for versus both my
[39:53] professional experience and
[39:56] takes root in my personal life
[39:56] .
[39:57] My father was the head of a
[39:58] small local union operating
[39:58] engineers.
[40:01] My wife was an fda member for
[40:02] her tenure at Boardwalk
[40:02] Elementary.
[40:05] And my daughter wasn't in
[40:09] the Graduate Students Union uaw
[40:09] 5810.
[40:10] I understand the voice.
[40:14] I understand the need and I
[40:14] understand the opportunity
[40:15] the mta provides for its
[40:18] members.
[40:19] And it is interesting that
[40:19] somebody would castigate an
[40:23] employer for actually trying to
[40:24] do right by its employees.
[40:25] I think that's what the city is
[40:28] doing and we hope
[40:29] the corporations of the world
[40:29] would listen in and actually
[40:33] take care of their employees.
[40:34] How outrageous would it be to
[40:38] go to Costco and say hey, you
[40:38] should knock off your benefits
[40:39] and your salary because
[40:42] Wal-Mart doesn't do the same?
[40:43] It is the obligation of
[40:44] the employer to rise up and
[40:47] meet the needs.
[40:48] And we live in an expensive
[40:48] city.
[40:49] We want our employees to be
[40:52] able to live, enjoy and thrive
[40:53] in the city that we all that
[40:57] most of us call home.
[40:57] So with that again,
[40:58] congratulations on your
[40:58] centennial.
[41:02] In MAY our San Diego Municipal
[41:03] Employees Association continue
[41:06] its successful advocacy for
[41:06] the next 100 years.
[41:07] Thank you to my colleagues for
[41:11] bringing the transgender
[41:12] Proclamation.
[41:12] I'll let you speak more
[41:13] eloquently on that.
[41:16] But item 32 the legal
[41:17] administrate of Assistant City
[41:17] McNary Day.
[41:20] Congratulations city on your
[41:20] retirement.
[41:21] And thank you for your
[41:22] dedication to serving
[41:22] the people of San Diego and
[41:25] the Office of the City
[41:25] Attorney.
[41:26] Cindy Cindy has been an asset
[41:27] between the council and
[41:30] the city Attorney's office.
[41:31] Your keen eye for detail jovial
[41:32] disposition and prompt
[41:35] responsive.
[41:36] This has been crucial to her
[41:36] work with our office.
[41:40] I know that the Council
[41:40] PRESIDENT's team will
[41:41] especially MISS Working with
[41:42] you and wish you the best in
[41:45] your retirement.
[41:46] Enjoy your retirement and thank
[41:46] you for your service Cindy.
[41:49] And with that I will move
[41:50] the proclamations.
[41:50] And again repeating for
[41:53] the record that item 30 the mta
[41:54] proclamation is also being
[41:58] presented by Council member
[41:58] Foster.
[41:59] And with that I will now go to
[42:03] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.
[42:03] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.
[42:04] I will go ahead and speak to
[42:04] item 30 as well.
[42:08] I am honored to join Mayor
[42:08] Gloria.
[42:09] Council PRESIDENT Acaba
[42:10] customarily Rivera and
[42:10] Councilmember Foster in
[42:13] recognizing the 100th
[42:14] anniversary of the San Diego
[42:14] Municipal Employees
[42:15] Association.
[42:18] For a century now mta has given
[42:19] city employees a voice when
[42:22] they've been fighting for fair
[42:23] wages, benefits, working
[42:23] conditions and ultimately to
[42:27] build a stable career when it
[42:28] comes to public service.
[42:32] As you had just helped to share
[42:33] with everyone here, that
[42:33] includes fighting for
[42:37] the important victories that
[42:37] mta has led to ensure that
[42:38] the benefits earned by that
[42:42] decades of service to our
[42:43] communities is actually kept.
[42:43] And this past year I think has
[42:47] been another meaningful
[42:47] reminder as why that
[42:48] representation matters.
[42:51] During one of the most
[42:52] difficult city budgets we've
[42:53] faced, we spent a lot of time
[42:55] talking about positions
[42:56] vacancies, reductions, dollars
[43:00] That all popped up on a
[43:01] spreadsheet.
[43:01] And the proposed budget often
[43:05] included reductions that we
[43:06] felt impacted all of our
[43:06] residents.
[43:07] For example, cutting back on
[43:11] operating hours at libraries
[43:11] and rec centers amongst other
[43:12] city services.
[43:15] But behind every one of those
[43:15] numbers I think we recognize
[43:19] there's an actual person and
[43:20] behind that person is service
[43:20] that San Diegans actually rely
[43:24] on.
[43:25] And that can be the librarian
[43:29] that helps to discover helps a
[43:30] child to discover a book that
[43:31] they want to read.
[43:31] It's that rec center staff
[43:32] member that's keeping a
[43:35] facility open in the evenings
[43:35] welcoming families for
[43:39] recreation.
[43:40] I think if planners who helped
[43:40] to shape the future of our
[43:44] communities and then engineers
[43:44] for example that help to
[43:45] deliver and design every road,
[43:49] every park, every facility that
[43:50] we see upgraded and at the end
[43:50] of the day there are thousands
[43:54] of employees that you help to
[43:55] represent that ensure that
[43:58] the actual service that our
[43:59] city residents rely on every
[44:00] single day a lot of that work
[44:03] happens very quietly.
[44:04] And I think residents despite
[44:05] not maybe knowing the names of
[44:09] those employees who to help to
[44:10] deliver the services they rely
[44:10] on certainly would feel it if
[44:13] those services didn't exist.
[44:14] And so that's why I think you
[44:15] see a council that has
[44:18] continued to not only fight for
[44:19] the services that our residents
[44:23] rely on but also the very staff
[44:24] and the people who power those
[44:28] services and to do so is just
[44:29] like what Council PRESIDENT
[44:30] LaCava mentioned.
[44:30] We have to value the actual
[44:33] people who serve the city and
[44:34] in turn ensure that in this
[44:38] challenging environment with
[44:39] the cost of living is what it
[44:40] is, they actually have an
[44:40] opportunity to live and enjoy
[44:43] the city that they help to
[44:44] deliver.
[44:45] So today is really more than
[44:47] just celebrating your 100 years
[44:47] as an organization.
[44:48] It's recognizing that that
[44:51] comes with generations of
[44:52] public service and ultimately
[44:57] allows us to to carry that on
[44:57] for the next hundred years.
[44:58] So congratulations to everyone
[45:02] here today from mta, all
[45:02] the members past and present
[45:03] and we certainly look forward
[45:04] to working together for
[45:07] the next century ahead.
[45:08] >> Thank you.
[45:08] Council PRESIDENT.
[45:09] I think there was a second in
[45:09] there.
[45:12] I will go in a second.
[45:13] >> The proclamation.
[45:13] All right.
[45:14] We have a motion by myself and
[45:15] a second by council PRESIDENT
[45:17] Pro Tem Lee to move
[45:17] the proclamation.
[45:18] >> We'll go next to council
[45:18] member Campbell.
[45:22] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[45:22] First of all I want to
[45:23] congratulate mta.
[45:27] I want to remind the public
[45:28] that only four council members
[45:29] are allowed to join on a block
[45:33] otherwise I'm sure every one of
[45:33] us would be on your proc.
[45:34] But we all do get to sign it as
[45:37] well as the mayor.
[45:38] So know that we love you and we
[45:39] appreciate you.
[45:42] On item 31 I want to thank
[45:43] Maritime Gloria and my
[45:43] colleagues.
[45:48] Council members would be open
[45:48] for joining me and bringing
[45:49] forward this proclamation
[45:52] declaring AUGUST 2026 as
[45:53] Transgender History Month in
[45:58] the city of San Diego.
[45:58] AUGUST holds a special
[45:59] significance in transgender
[46:00] history and this year
[46:04] especially as it marks the 60th
[46:08] anniversary of the 1966 Compton
[46:08] cafeteria riots in San
[46:09] Francisco.
[46:13] This was one of the earliest
[46:14] acts of collective resistance
[46:17] by transgender people against
[46:18] harassment and discrimination
[46:18] in the United States.
[46:23] Here in San Diego we believe in
[46:24] dignity, equality and
[46:25] authenticity for everyone.
[46:29] Today and every day I want to
[46:30] celebrate our transgender
[46:31] community and honor those who
[46:34] continue to fight for inclusion
[46:35] and justice Despite the attacks
[46:39] and discrimination we see
[46:40] across the country.
[46:41] And we hear even in our own
[46:45] place right here.
[46:46] This year we are recognizing
[46:47] the University of San Diego
[46:50] School of Law's Transgender
[46:51] name and gender marker change
[46:52] clinic which helps transgender
[46:57] individuals navigate the legal
[46:57] process of updating their names
[46:58] and gender markers on official
[47:02] documents.
[47:03] This work is so important
[47:03] because having id that reflects
[47:08] who you are can make an
[47:08] enormous difference in a
[47:09] person's ability to live safely
[47:13] and authentic authentically.
[47:19] As a family physician I've seen
[47:19] firsthand how people can thrive
[47:20] when they are supported as
[47:24] living their true authentic
[47:24] selves.
[47:25] Transgender people are like
[47:30] everyone else and need the same
[47:31] things we all do respect,
[47:36] support, dignity and access to
[47:36] affirming care.
[47:37] I'll end with this.
[47:41] To our trans community I see
[47:41] you.
[47:42] I respect you and I love you.
[47:46] Our city honors you and
[47:47] celebrates everything you
[47:47] contribute to San Diego.
[47:52] We are in this fight together
[47:53] So let us stand together as one
[47:57] big lgbtq family and one big
[47:58] San Diego family.
[47:58] Never stop fighting for
[48:02] the right to be who you are and
[48:03] to live with dignity, freedom
[48:03] and pride.
[48:04] Thank you.
[48:11] Council PRESIDENT.
[48:12] Thank you, Council Campbell.
[48:12] We'll go next to Councilmember
[48:13] Whitman.
[48:13] Thank you.
[48:15] Council PRESIDENT I too proud
[48:15] to join my colleagues in
[48:16] proclaiming AUGUST as
[48:16] Transgender History Month in
[48:17] the city of San Diego.
[48:21] Transgender people have been an
[48:21] instrumental part of the city
[48:22] of San Diego for many, many
[48:23] years throughout our history.
[48:27] Through their leadership, their
[48:28] creativity, their advocacy,
[48:28] their service.
[48:29] Transgender San Diego have
[48:33] strengthened our communities.
[48:33] They have advanced equality and
[48:34] helped to make our city a more
[48:39] welcoming place for everybody.
[48:39] This both gives us an
[48:40] opportunity to one of
[48:41] the trailblazers whose courage
[48:41] laid the foundation for that
[48:45] progress.
[48:46] We'll also celebrating those
[48:46] who continue to make history
[48:47] today or thank all those in
[48:51] attendance today to support
[48:51] this item today your continued
[48:52] work to uplift others, build
[48:57] community and advocate for
[48:57] dignity and equal opportunity
[48:58] inspires us all.
[49:02] Transgender history but also
[49:03] reminds us that progress is not
[49:03] inevitable.
[49:08] I have been horrified to see
[49:09] the attacks on the transgender
[49:10] community physical attacks,
[49:15] verbal attacks, legal attacks.
[49:16] There have been deaths.
[49:20] There have been legal setbacks
[49:20] .
[49:21] But there has also been courage
[49:22] and determination to fight for
[49:26] justice and equality.
[49:27] We must continue standing with
[49:28] the transgender community and
[49:28] ensuring that every San Diego
[49:33] can live openly and safely and
[49:33] authentically.
[49:38] And I am utter to recognize
[49:38] the lasting contribution to
[49:39] the transgender community and
[49:40] to reaffirm the City of San
[49:40] Diego commitment to inclusion
[49:44] and equality and respect for
[49:44] all.
[49:45] Today I'm also proud to join
[49:50] Gloria and my council
[49:51] colleagues to recognize the San
[49:52] Diego Police Association as it
[49:55] celebrates 100 years of
[49:55] service.
[49:56] For a century nba has stood up
[49:57] for city employees who work
[50:01] every day to serve San Diego to
[50:01] keep our city running.
[50:02] I'm glad Smith mentioned
[50:03] the fight to overturn
[50:07] Proposition b.
[50:08] Here you had a situation where
[50:08] city employees public servants
[50:09] who do not receive Social
[50:13] Security lost their pensions as
[50:13] well.
[50:14] Your successful work to reverse
[50:19] that not only helps city
[50:20] employees here but has sent a
[50:20] message statewide that city
[50:24] employees are to be respected.
[50:25] And as recently as earlier this
[50:26] year, nba had a profound impact
[50:30] on another matter.
[50:31] There was a threatened ballot
[50:31] measure that would have cost
[50:32] the city of San Diego hundreds
[50:37] of millions of dollars of
[50:37] revenue.
[50:38] It would have been crippling.
[50:38] Thank goodness.
[50:42] Nba general Manager Mike Scott
[50:43] and Council PRESIDENT McCarver
[50:44] were instrumental in
[50:44] the decision in the settlement
[50:45] and the threat of a crippling
[50:48] ballot measure was dropped to
[50:49] the benefit not only of our
[50:50] city workers but to all
[50:50] citizens.
[50:54] 100 years is a remarkable
[50:54] milestone and our congratulate
[50:55] its leadership and all of its
[50:59] members past and present.
[51:00] And finally on item 32, I am
[51:01] also pleased to join our city
[51:01] attorney and my cultural
[51:05] colleagues in congratulating
[51:06] City McNary on retirement.
[51:06] Thank you Sidney, for your many
[51:10] years of service to our city
[51:11] and bet you enjoy your
[51:12] well-deserved retirement.
[51:12] Thank you Council PRESIDENT And
[51:13] thank you council member
[51:16] Whitman And we'll go next to
[51:17] Councilmember Foster.
[51:17] Yes, Thank you Council
[51:23] PRESIDENT And it's an honor and
[51:23] pleasure to join my colleagues
[51:27] in recognizing nba on 100
[51:27] years.
[51:28] Congratulations.
[51:34] You know, Mike, it's a good you
[51:35] know, it's hard to I can't you
[51:35] know, when I think of nba, I
[51:39] think of Mike Kaye.
[51:40] It's hard to separate you but
[51:40] you look good for 100 years, my
[51:45] friend, but just can't say
[51:46] enough about nba.
[51:46] As you hear some of the public
[51:51] comment, I'm a little taken
[51:56] aback because I was here in
[51:57] some other years when nba was
[51:58] not in a good place.
[52:02] Our employees really would I
[52:08] would say took a drastic hit
[52:09] over what I want to say a
[52:14] decade of hiring freezes,
[52:15] salary freezes, mandatory
[52:20] furlough.
[52:20] You're talking about living
[52:26] through a very, very concerning
[52:26] time.
[52:27] But I think we've turned
[52:28] the corner and I think that
[52:28] speaks to the leadership and
[52:32] the dedication of our
[52:32] employees.
[52:33] We made some progress.
[52:39] We were able to make some
[52:44] important increases to get our
[52:45] employees closer to where they
[52:46] need to be.
[52:51] i think there's still more work
[52:51] to do.
[52:52] I think if we are going to say
[52:57] we are the finest city, we need
[52:58] to make sure that we are taking
[52:58] care of our employees to
[52:59] provide the services that our
[53:03] residents rely and depend on.
[53:04] And I just want to say thank
[53:09] you for showing up to work
[53:09] every day even when your
[53:14] cubicle MAY not be the proper
[53:15] operational order.
[53:15] But it doesn't stop you from
[53:16] coming to work and to serve
[53:16] the public.
[53:21] So thank you for all of your
[53:21] efforts, all of your
[53:22] dedication.
[53:26] As you hear we have PRESIDENT
[53:26] Of the organization that has
[53:27] been with the city for 37
[53:27] years.
[53:32] I think that speaks to
[53:33] the importance of nba and
[53:33] the dedication of our employees
[53:38] So thank you for your continued
[53:38] service.
[53:39] Thank you for your continued
[53:39] fight.
[53:40] Thank you for holding us
[53:40] accountable.
[53:44] I think it's the right thing to
[53:44] do.
[53:45] And again, we have more work to
[53:45] do.
[53:49] And again, congratulations on
[53:50] 100 years.
[53:50] All right.
[53:51] Thank you, Councilmember
[53:51] Foster.
[53:51] And we'll go next to
[53:55] Councilmember Von Wilpert.
[53:56] Thank you very much to my
[53:57] colleagues Bring forth
[53:58] fantastic proclamations as
[54:00] always, Mike Happy birthday And
[54:01] Rafe and and and happy 29th
[54:02] birthday.
[54:07] You two are looking fantastic.
[54:08] Oh, but no, honestly,
[54:12] congratulations to nea and all
[54:13] of the city employees who have
[54:14] shown such excellent leadership
[54:18] to be joining a union.
[54:18] And thank you for fighting
[54:19] the lawsuit that you did to end
[54:24] the legal overturning of
[54:25] defined benefit and retirement
[54:26] for so many workers.
[54:26] You know, since we got elected
[54:30] we got to then implement that
[54:31] decision and we're seeing
[54:32] people come back to the city to
[54:32] work here again which is
[54:37] wonderful because that provides
[54:37] residents with the services
[54:38] that they need.
[54:39] And so it's been just a win win
[54:39] all around.
[54:43] But the find extremely long
[54:44] legal battle because it also
[54:44] helped protect other employees
[54:48] and other municipalities from a
[54:49] similar attack.
[54:49] So very glad you're here.
[54:50] And I learned something about
[54:54] nea.
[54:55] I think this proclamation that
[54:56] when mba was founded city
[54:59] employees worked six days and
[54:59] 44 hours a week.
[55:00] They had no benefits little
[55:00] voice in their workplace
[55:05] overtime was not even mentioned
[55:06] as a possibility.
[55:06] But it was the union who
[55:07] secured health, dental vision
[55:11] and life insurance And with
[55:12] the bank collapsed shortly
[55:13] after the 1929 stock market
[55:13] crash.
[55:17] It was nea members who created
[55:18] their own credit union pulling
[55:19] together their membership dues
[55:22] to provide loans to other
[55:23] members to get to the financial
[55:23] crisis.
[55:24] I mean that's an incredible
[55:29] history that mta has so today
[55:29] we are very thankful for
[55:30] the people who make our city
[55:31] work every day from our parks
[55:35] and recreation directors who
[55:35] create safe welcoming spaces
[55:36] for families in the public to
[55:37] our librarians who connect
[55:41] residents with new portals to
[55:42] education opportunity to our
[55:43] planners and engineers who help
[55:46] shape our communities to our
[55:47] 911 dispatch responders who
[55:48] work day and night or some of
[55:53] the kind of the most patient
[55:53] individuals I've ever met in my
[55:54] life two analysts, inspectors,
[55:55] technicians, administrate
[55:59] professionals and countless
[56:00] others whose work happens
[56:01] behind the scenes but benefits
[56:01] every city diegan Every day.
[56:06] So thank you so much for all
[56:06] you do And I'm looking forward
[56:07] to another hundred years but
[56:08] hopefully at some point you'll
[56:10] give make a break.
[56:11] So I'm really honored to to be
[56:12] taking this proclamation today
[56:17] and then for item 31
[56:18] Transgender History Month, I'm
[56:18] very proud to join my
[56:19] colleagues in recognizing
[56:23] AUGUST 25th, 2026 as
[56:24] Transgender History Month in
[56:25] the city of San Diego.
[56:27] This year marks the 60th
[56:28] anniversary of the 1966
[56:32] Compton's cafeteria riots one
[56:33] of the earliest known acts of
[56:34] collective resistance by
[56:34] transgender and gender
[56:35] nonconforming people in United
[56:38] States even pre-dating
[56:39] the Stonewall riots.
[56:39] It was here in the San
[56:43] Francisco Tenderloin District
[56:44] in 1966 in which a riot was
[56:45] erupting in response to
[56:49] the violent inconsistent police
[56:50] harassment of trans people
[56:51] including for the crime at
[56:55] the time a female impersonation
[56:56] .
[56:57] Luckily we will be honest and
[56:57] this incident was one of
[57:01] the first lgbtq related efforts
[57:02] United States to actually
[57:02] recognize transgender activism
[57:03] And I'm very proud to recognize
[57:07] that here today and since we
[57:08] are coming up to
[57:09] the anniversary, I'm also very
[57:09] proud that Diego has been a
[57:13] leader in reversing the history
[57:14] of police discrimination
[57:18] against our trans community.
[57:18] In 2015 one of our very own
[57:19] first responders made history
[57:20] here in San Diego when
[57:25] Christine Garcia publicly came
[57:25] out as a transgender woman
[57:26] After years serving as an
[57:27] officer in a senior police
[57:31] force, she initially feared it
[57:31] would end her law enforcement
[57:32] career according to an
[57:33] interview she did with Tribune
[57:37] interviewing transgender woman
[57:38] because she thought she would
[57:38] cautiously at first telling
[57:39] only a close friend who was
[57:42] also a member of the lgbtq
[57:43] community.
[57:43] Sergeant Dan Meyer, who was one
[57:48] of our lgbtq liaison officers
[57:49] and he had the courage to go to
[57:50] that police chief Sailor
[57:51] Tamarin and say I didn't know
[57:51] what plan we'd have.
[57:54] We're going to work out a plan
[57:55] to make sure that she could
[57:56] continue serving in uniform
[57:56] with the badge.
[57:56] And they did.
[58:00] And as soon as Christine Garcia
[58:01] came out to appear she thought
[58:01] quote Maybe I'll lose respect
[58:06] from 50% of the department.
[58:07] But she said I'm a good cop and
[58:08] I hoped if I could show that
[58:11] i'm still a good cop only my
[58:12] appearance change I could
[58:13] change their perception.
[58:13] Well, guess what?
[58:14] According to her interview when
[58:18] that day came she received
[58:19] nothing but accepted.
[58:19] She said she made herself
[58:20] available to officers who have
[58:23] questions even personal ones in
[58:24] the hope that would help them
[58:25] better understand what being
[58:25] transgender means and what
[58:30] bravery she had.
[58:31] Unfortunately the public didn't
[58:31] react as well but she felt
[58:35] completely supported by
[58:36] the standing police department.
[58:37] She had to deal with public
[58:38] members who were coming in
[58:38] calling for her resignation.
[58:42] But the police department stood
[58:43] strong and she stayed out
[58:44] working at a traffic cop for
[58:44] quite a few years after that.
[58:48] She's now that other department
[58:48] But I'm just so proud to say
[58:49] they can help reverse that
[58:53] history making sure that trans
[58:54] people are treated as people as
[58:55] they should be.
[59:00] I also want to now recognize
[59:01] item 32 Legal Administrative
[59:01] assistant to David three Day
[59:02] And Cindy, if you'd like to
[59:07] come up to the podium I know
[59:07] you hear him.
[59:07] >> There you are.
[59:08] Come on up, City.
[59:19] City is I am honored to join
[59:20] the city attorney Heather
[59:21] Ferber and Counselor Ocampo in
[59:25] recognizing Sydney Victory Day
[59:25] in the more than 40 years of
[59:26] dedicated service you provide
[59:31] to the city of San Diego.
[59:31] I'm Cindy began her career in
[59:32] 1985 and serving on the police
[59:33] department's Patio Fire Rescue
[59:37] department and now in
[59:37] the city's attorney's office.
[59:38] Throughout her career she has
[59:39] earned the respect of
[59:39] colleagues including me When I
[59:42] was a deputy city attorney for
[59:43] her professionalism, attention
[59:43] to detail and commitment to
[59:44] public service.
[59:48] You have also been a trusted
[59:48] resource for colleagues always
[59:49] willing to share your knowledge
[59:50] to help others, always willing
[59:54] to share your knowledge with us
[59:55] Council members as you have
[59:55] prepared many closed session
[59:56] briefings over the years.
[1:00:00] I know your contributions will
[1:00:01] continue beyond your
[1:00:01] retirement.
[1:00:02] You have created manuals
[1:00:06] templates, databases, training
[1:00:07] materials to help the new city
[1:00:08] attorney and assistance coming
[1:00:08] up in the city attorney's
[1:00:13] office.
[1:00:14] You also help to navigate us
[1:00:14] through the challenges of 2020
[1:00:17] when you transition city
[1:00:17] council meetings and three
[1:00:18] virtual format including our
[1:00:19] closed session meetings.
[1:00:24] You are such a great example of
[1:00:24] public service and dedication.
[1:00:25] We're going to MISS You but
[1:00:26] with the remainder of my time
[1:00:26] If you'd like to say anything
[1:00:29] please please the microphone.
[1:00:31] I just want to say it's been an
[1:00:31] honor and a privilege to be an
[1:00:32] employee of the city of San
[1:00:36] Diego.
[1:00:37] I've always learned from where
[1:00:38] I've been People do good work
[1:00:43] for the city and especially in
[1:00:44] the attorney's office.
[1:00:44] I've had two stints there and I
[1:00:49] wish people understand how hard
[1:00:50] the attorneys work and doing
[1:00:50] the right thing for the city
[1:00:55] And it's just been a joy to
[1:00:55] work with so many wonderful
[1:00:56] attorneys and staff including
[1:00:57] when you and I have interacted
[1:01:01] on a few occasions, Marty and I
[1:01:02] would say the work I'm most
[1:01:02] proud of was coming through
[1:01:03] the transition.
[1:01:07] It was a lot Some of you all
[1:01:08] who are here remember how we
[1:01:12] got through But it's it's a joy
[1:01:13] and I'm going to MISS
[1:01:13] The people.
[1:01:14] I'm going to MISS The work And
[1:01:15] I've told so many of my
[1:01:18] colleagues it's hard to leave
[1:01:19] when you love what you do and
[1:01:19] you love who you're doing it
[1:01:24] for But it's time to move on.
[1:01:25] >> But I will never forget my
[1:01:41] time here.
[1:01:54] Thank you.
[1:01:54] Thank you very much.
[1:01:55] And that concludes my comments.
[1:01:55] All right.
[1:01:56] Thank you.
[1:01:58] Councilmember Marvel.
[1:01:59] And we'll turn it over to our
[1:02:00] city attorney for a few words.
[1:02:01] Thank you so much.
[1:02:04] First it's my privilege to
[1:02:05] congratulate mj on 100 years of
[1:02:05] service and thank their
[1:02:06] leadership for all their hard
[1:02:09] work on behalf of the city and
[1:02:10] its employees including
[1:02:11] the more than 200 mta
[1:02:11] represented employees in
[1:02:15] the city attorney's office.
[1:02:16] But today it is my honor to
[1:02:17] celebrate the career and
[1:02:17] service of one of those
[1:02:21] dedicated mta members and a key
[1:02:22] member of our team at the city
[1:02:23] Attorney's office Andy McNary.
[1:02:23] Since 1985 Cindy has been a
[1:02:28] steady positive force in so
[1:02:28] many departments in the city
[1:02:29] spending I think most of her
[1:02:30] time with the city attorney's
[1:02:32] office.
[1:02:33] She's the kind of person who
[1:02:34] makes things easier for
[1:02:34] everyone creating tools,
[1:02:35] manuals and resources that
[1:02:38] people still use today.
[1:02:38] Even on the eve of her
[1:02:39] retirement she is working on
[1:02:40] finalizing an updated ordinance
[1:02:43] drafting manual for our
[1:02:44] deputies and legal
[1:02:45] administrative assistant which
[1:02:49] is going to be fantastic.
[1:02:50] When the pandemic turned
[1:02:50] everything upside down, Cindy
[1:02:51] helped us move the city council
[1:02:51] meetings online.
[1:02:55] She also helped us move all of
[1:02:55] our paper routing processes.
[1:02:56] Attorneys love paper.
[1:02:56] She helped move all those
[1:03:00] online as well so we could make
[1:03:01] sure the city kept running
[1:03:01] smoothly.
[1:03:02] I will never forget calling
[1:03:05] Cindy during covid from my
[1:03:06] house about an issue with
[1:03:06] the housing ordinance package
[1:03:09] that was easily over 100 pages
[1:03:10] and I was losing my mind on how
[1:03:10] to get this thing done.
[1:03:15] Cindy jumped in to help get
[1:03:16] the ordinance on the right
[1:03:16] track and help me meet some
[1:03:17] really tight deadlines on
[1:03:17] the project.
[1:03:20] And I know I'm not the only
[1:03:20] person in the office who has
[1:03:21] benefited from Cindy's
[1:03:22] generosity and willingness to
[1:03:22] help.
[1:03:25] She's always there for her
[1:03:26] coworkers sharing her knowledge
[1:03:26] and lending a hand.
[1:03:27] People trust her and trust and
[1:03:31] she has earned that trust and
[1:03:31] she has earned that through
[1:03:32] years of hard work and
[1:03:32] integrity.
[1:03:36] Now Cindy, you're heading into
[1:03:36] retirement.
[1:03:37] Your cheerful attitude and can
[1:03:38] do spirit will be missed.
[1:03:41] We're so excited about your
[1:03:42] retirement plans and we know
[1:03:43] that you're going to make
[1:03:43] the most of it.
[1:03:44] Thank you for everything that
[1:03:46] you've done for San Diego.
[1:03:47] We're so grateful for your
[1:03:48] dedication, public service and
[1:03:48] the positive way you showed up
[1:03:51] every day willing to help and
[1:03:52] make a real difference.
[1:03:57] >> Congratulations.
[1:04:01] Thank you, MADAM City Attorney
[1:04:02] .
[1:04:03] >> And I'm going to turn over
[1:04:03] to city clerk for a few words
[1:04:04] as well.
[1:04:04] Thank you.
[1:04:08] Council PRESIDENT I never speak
[1:04:08] during proclamations but really
[1:04:09] just want to take a moment.
[1:04:10] For Cindy McNary Day I just
[1:04:12] wanted to thank you from
[1:04:13] the bottom of my heart and
[1:04:14] the office of the City Clerk
[1:04:14] for the countless hours you
[1:04:17] have worked alongside our
[1:04:18] deputy city clerks, our
[1:04:18] legislative recorders and all
[1:04:19] of our office to ensure that
[1:04:22] the city's record is always
[1:04:23] accurate and complete.
[1:04:24] You have done it all with such
[1:04:24] grace, kindness and
[1:04:25] professionalism.
[1:04:28] The legacy you are leaving
[1:04:28] behind with your kindness and
[1:04:32] joy I hope spreads through all
[1:04:33] .
[1:04:33] Continuing to work with our
[1:04:34] office.
[1:04:34] But the ordinance drafting
[1:04:38] manual as I mentioned by
[1:04:38] the city attorney is really
[1:04:39] your nuggets your legacy which
[1:04:43] I will call the McNairy manual
[1:04:43] from here forth because your
[1:04:44] knowledge, dedication and
[1:04:48] attention to detail are now
[1:04:48] part of that resource and will
[1:04:49] continue to guide and support
[1:04:50] others and our office.
[1:04:53] You definitely made a
[1:04:53] difference and I thank you for
[1:04:54] all your work for the office
[1:04:54] and for the city.
[1:05:00] Thank you Cindy.
[1:05:01] >> All right.
[1:05:01] Thank you, City Clerk And now
[1:05:03] we've got a council member Eli
[1:05:08] Rivera.
[1:05:09] >> Thank you, Council
[1:05:09] PRESIDENT.
[1:05:10] Thank you to my colleagues for
[1:05:13] bringing these proclamations
[1:05:13] forward.
[1:05:18] I'll start with our municipal
[1:05:18] Employees Association Hundred
[1:05:19] Anniversary Day.
[1:05:21] I'm very, very proud to be
[1:05:22] joining the mayor and my
[1:05:27] colleagues with this.
[1:05:27] A lot has been said about
[1:05:28] everything that he does for its
[1:05:29] members.
[1:05:32] I'm going to focus a bit more
[1:05:32] on why having such a strong
[1:05:37] union is so good for the public
[1:05:41] In a city that has long has a
[1:05:42] long history of villainizing
[1:05:45] public employees and making
[1:05:46] the problems of the city
[1:05:51] the result of city workers and
[1:05:52] not the result of poor
[1:05:56] leadership or dishonesty by
[1:05:56] politicians.
[1:06:01] You have been in a very, very
[1:06:01] tough spot for a very long time
[1:06:05] and despite that I have never
[1:06:06] flinched in being committed to
[1:06:07] your roles And those are roles
[1:06:11] that sometimes are front facing
[1:06:11] the librarians that people love
[1:06:15] and and folks like that but
[1:06:16] also even more often are people
[1:06:20] behind the scenes And none of
[1:06:20] the public services that people
[1:06:24] see need and appreciate would
[1:06:25] be provided without public
[1:06:26] servants providing those
[1:06:29] services and as has been
[1:06:30] mentioned before, the city
[1:06:30] couldn't do it in the way that
[1:06:31] we do it.
[1:06:34] We couldn't strive to be better
[1:06:35] without the expertise that you
[1:06:35] all provide.
[1:06:36] Without the commitment to
[1:06:39] public service that you have
[1:06:40] And oftentimes it's been done
[1:06:43] despite not being paid in a
[1:06:44] manner that is competitive with
[1:06:45] other cities directly next to
[1:06:48] ours.
[1:06:49] So thank you for everything you
[1:06:49] do and have done.
[1:06:53] I'm deeply appreciative for all
[1:06:53] of you.
[1:06:58] I'll now transition to our next
[1:06:58] proclamation Item 31
[1:06:59] Transgender History Month.
[1:07:03] Thank you to my colleagues and
[1:07:03] Mayor Gloria for bringing this
[1:07:04] one forward.
[1:07:08] I'm very proud to support
[1:07:08] the proclamation.
[1:07:12] I want to say thank you to our
[1:07:13] Trenton transgender community
[1:07:13] for your courage, your
[1:07:16] resilience, your creativity and
[1:07:17] the inspiration you provide to
[1:07:21] everyone to be our full
[1:07:21] authentic selves.
[1:07:22] There's also a chance here to
[1:07:26] honor the read The two
[1:07:27] recognize that gender gender
[1:07:28] diversity is not new to San
[1:07:28] Diego.
[1:07:31] The community people who have
[1:07:32] called this land home for
[1:07:32] thousands of years hold their
[1:07:35] own traditions recognizing
[1:07:36] gender beyond the binary in
[1:07:41] what many communities today
[1:07:41] call to spirit.
[1:07:42] And when we celebrate
[1:07:42] transgender San Diego, we're
[1:07:45] also honoring a history of
[1:07:46] gender that predates the city
[1:07:47] itself.
[1:07:47] So I'm glad to stand in support
[1:07:51] of this proclamation And every
[1:07:52] transgender San Diego And DR.
[1:07:53] Jen, you said it very well to
[1:07:55] our transgender community.
[1:07:56] We see you.
[1:07:56] We love you.
[1:07:57] We appreciate you.
[1:08:00] And then last but certainly not
[1:08:05] least, Cindy, thank you for
[1:08:05] the service you provided to
[1:08:06] the city.
[1:08:06] It's I'm so glad that you're
[1:08:10] here on the same day as mayor
[1:08:11] was was recognized because you
[1:08:14] are the embodiment of a public
[1:08:18] servant who for 40 years has
[1:08:19] done jobs that are oftentimes
[1:08:23] not appreciated by the public
[1:08:24] but are essential to making
[1:08:24] sure that the public gets what
[1:08:29] they they need and is just a
[1:08:29] model for what public service
[1:08:30] looks like.
[1:08:31] So thank you so much for
[1:08:34] everything that you've done.
[1:08:35] We deeply appreciate it.
[1:08:36] And thank you to the city
[1:08:38] attorney forever Councilor
[1:08:39] providing Wolpert and Catherine
[1:08:40] Campo for recognizing that that
[1:08:40] work as well.
[1:08:43] And I'll just conclude by
[1:08:48] saying, you know having
[1:08:49] the level of appreciation that
[1:08:53] I just saw from City Attorney
[1:08:54] Ferber and the clerk says a lot
[1:08:58] about the quality of work that
[1:08:59] you do.
[1:09:03] I know that the clerk has a
[1:09:04] very, very detailed eye.
[1:09:08] And and just a very, very good
[1:09:08] sign of the commitment to your
[1:09:13] job and everything that you
[1:09:14] have put into it for so long.
[1:09:14] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[1:09:15] All right.
[1:09:15] Thank you.
[1:09:17] Council member Eli Rivera.
[1:09:18] And now we'll go next next to
[1:09:19] council member Moreno.
[1:09:19] Thank you.
[1:09:22] I'll start off with item number
[1:09:22] 31.
[1:09:26] Transgender History Month to
[1:09:27] the transgender community.
[1:09:31] Vivian loves you and my whole
[1:09:31] family loves you.
[1:09:32] Item number 32 Legal
[1:09:36] Administrative assistant Cindy
[1:09:37] McNary De Thank you for your
[1:09:37] service.
[1:09:41] I think I can't say anything
[1:09:41] else.
[1:09:42] I will MISS All your emails and
[1:09:46] congratulations on retirement
[1:09:47] at such a young age.
[1:09:51] I would also like to say I
[1:09:51] think that's a that's a
[1:09:52] demonstration of of all
[1:09:55] the hard work that MAY does
[1:09:56] when we have such a wonderful
[1:10:00] human being that gets to retire
[1:10:01] and enjoy the rest of her life.
[1:10:01] I hear every day is Saturday
[1:10:05] I'll be joining you in DECEMBER
[1:10:05] .
[1:10:09] >> Moving on to item number 30
[1:10:09] San Diego Municipal Employees
[1:10:10] Association 100th anniversary
[1:10:14] day.
[1:10:14] Congratulations mda.
[1:10:17] When I first started working at
[1:10:18] City Hall, our city employees
[1:10:22] were vilified by elected
[1:10:23] officials who sat on this very
[1:10:27] dais and also by the by
[1:10:27] the media.
[1:10:28] They denigrated our city staff.
[1:10:31] In my 16 year tenure I've had
[1:10:32] the pleasure of meeting many
[1:10:36] hard working dedicated meaa
[1:10:37] members who have given up so
[1:10:41] much as public servants.
[1:10:42] I'm proud to have been a small
[1:10:46] part of the unwinding of prop b
[1:10:46] and thank you for your
[1:10:50] partnership And also I trust
[1:10:51] all my votes regarding mta
[1:10:52] members has demonstrated my
[1:10:56] unwavering commitment to our
[1:10:56] city workers.
[1:10:57] >> Thank you.
[1:10:57] All right.
[1:10:57] Thank you.
[1:11:01] Council member Moreno.
[1:11:01] And with that we have a motion
[1:11:05] by myself to move
[1:11:06] the proclamation seconded by
[1:11:06] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.
[1:11:09] Clerk Please call the roll.
[1:11:09] >> I'm sorry.
[1:11:10] The voting system Please cast
[1:11:13] your vote.
[1:11:19] Working.
[1:11:20] >> My apologies, COUNCILMAN
[1:11:20] Campbell.
[1:11:21] We'll look at it over
[1:11:21] the recess.
[1:11:24] Would you like to let me know
[1:11:24] your vote?
[1:11:24] Yes.
[1:11:28] I vote yes.
[1:11:32] >> That does pass unanimously 8
[1:11:32] to 0 with Councilmember Campo
[1:11:33] absent.
[1:11:33] >> Thank you, Council
[1:11:34] PRESIDENT.
[1:11:34] All right.
[1:11:34] Thank you.
[1:11:37] And with that we will now pause
[1:11:38] for photos and we will start
[1:11:39] with item 30 San Diego
[1:11:42] Municipal Employees Association
[1:11:42] 100th anniversary day.
[1:13:44] >> So if we could join us in
[1:20:44] ready okay, we will get on with
[1:20:44] the rest of the council's
[1:20:48] business and proceed with
[1:20:49] the approval of the consent
[1:20:49] items with the exception of
[1:20:53] item 55 which I will be pulling
[1:20:54] from the consent agenda to be
[1:20:58] heard later this morning after
[1:20:58] our morning discussion item 330
[1:21:03] So again item 55 will be pulled
[1:21:04] and will be heard after our
[1:21:07] morning discussion item 330.
[1:21:08] So are there any other request
[1:21:11] to pull items by the council
[1:21:12] members not seeing any such
[1:21:12] request?
[1:21:13] Clerk Please proceed with
[1:21:17] public comment on the consent
[1:21:17] items.
[1:21:18] >> Thank you.
[1:21:20] Council PRESIDENT Please Now
[1:21:21] each speaker will have one
[1:21:21] minute per item per person.
[1:21:22] If you would like to speak on
[1:21:23] three or more items you will
[1:21:26] have a maximum of three minutes
[1:21:26] for those participating
[1:21:27] virtually that are part of an
[1:21:30] organized presentation should
[1:21:31] raise their hand in the virtual
[1:21:32] queue at this time.
[1:21:32] The consent agenda includes
[1:21:36] items 1050 through 62 minus
[1:21:40] item 55 that was pulled 100
[1:21:40] through 112.
[1:21:43] We received comments on items
[1:21:44] 54 two opposed via our e
[1:21:44] comment form which have been
[1:21:48] distributed to the Council.
[1:21:49] Also let me note for the record
[1:21:50] the potential appointments that
[1:21:53] are on the agenda this morning.
[1:21:54] Item 112 is the potential
[1:21:55] appointment of Kay Hobson and
[1:21:59] reappointment of Nick Galeano
[1:21:59] to the Consolidated Plan
[1:22:02] Advisory Board for terms ending
[1:22:03] JULY 1st, 2028 starting with
[1:22:09] Jacob Lewis.
[1:22:10] Edwards We actually did not
[1:22:10] have any organized
[1:22:11] presentations for the consent
[1:22:11] agenda.
[1:22:13] Jacob as we are speaking please
[1:22:16] come forward Items 5354 or 57
[1:22:17] you will have three minutes.
[1:22:18] Please proceed when you get
[1:22:18] there.
[1:22:19] But if Joyce Sonata can come up
[1:22:21] to the front row allegedly
[1:22:25] Audra Isabel okay.
[1:22:26] Paula Kruger and Laurie Saldana
[1:22:27] if you can all please come up
[1:22:31] to the front row That'd be
[1:22:31] great.
[1:22:32] >> Please proceed.
[1:22:32] Good morning, Council men and
[1:22:33] women.
[1:22:35] Thank you for Let me speak upon
[1:22:36] up for you today I'm speaking
[1:22:40] on these agenda items and they
[1:22:40] are amendments and prior to
[1:22:44] recess I spoke how important
[1:22:45] amendments are and I spoke upon
[1:22:49] the importance of amending
[1:22:50] the 27 budget is what I was
[1:22:55] referring to of of amending And
[1:22:59] while I'm here before you today
[1:23:00] is to consider amending the 27
[1:23:05] budget to include food The Neal
[1:23:09] de Goods Center's funding It's
[1:23:14] a homeless resource center for
[1:23:15] So we're really asking you to
[1:23:16] speak on the three items that
[1:23:16] you identified not a you can
[1:23:19] talk about it on agenda public
[1:23:23] comment on budget request You
[1:23:24] need to speak specifically to
[1:23:25] the three items that you
[1:23:28] identified not just generally
[1:23:29] about a minutes.
[1:23:29] Okay.
[1:23:32] Thank you.
[1:23:32] Thank you.
[1:23:38] Joyce Any other Joyce anybody
[1:23:39] you're speaking on?
[1:23:41] 5051, 52, 58, 61 and 111.
[1:23:41] You'll have three minutes.
[1:23:45] Please proceed.
[1:23:46] Okay.
[1:23:46] On 50 Yes.
[1:23:50] To exempt a program coordinator
[1:23:51] position in I t for classified
[1:23:51] service.
[1:23:55] Yes To oversee cybersecurity
[1:24:00] policies and control that
[1:24:00] govern the security management
[1:24:05] of info systems.
[1:24:06] I can see that word for all
[1:24:10] across all city departments so
[1:24:10] love it.
[1:24:14] Thank you so much.
[1:24:14] 51 Yes To approve the fourth
[1:24:15] Amendment between the city and
[1:24:19] San Diego Futures Foundation to
[1:24:23] provide accessible community
[1:24:24] based digital skills training
[1:24:28] through the digital literacy
[1:24:28] program.
[1:24:28] Yes.
[1:24:32] Reach out Lift up everyone to
[1:24:33] ride the fast train into our
[1:24:38] new world Evolution for all
[1:24:43] Number 52 Yes to rev track
[1:24:44] direct your bank we have
[1:24:48] the back of I.T.
[1:24:49] Please keep the public in
[1:24:53] the info loop of I.T of Excuse
[1:24:54] me I did this very fast late
[1:24:58] last night I key into our new
[1:25:03] world of virtual reality.
[1:25:04] We need the real ness of all of
[1:25:09] you I.T the real ness.
[1:25:12] Please help us stay focused on
[1:25:13] 58 Yes to the Sixth Amendment
[1:25:16] Cooperative procurement
[1:25:17] contract with Real rig Pacific
[1:25:21] Company for waste carts,
[1:25:22] cycling carts and so forth a
[1:25:30] big yes to curb Brady Excuse me
[1:25:31] and the rest of
[1:25:35] the environmental services
[1:25:36] Department Team 61 Yes to
[1:25:40] the Office of the City Clerk
[1:25:41] for Electric Filing System with
[1:25:45] Pasadena Consulting Group will
[1:25:45] help you as much as we can.
[1:25:49] City Clerk We love all of you.
[1:25:50] And lastly number 111 Dear
[1:25:54] Office of the city attorney
[1:25:58] people $40 million settlement
[1:25:59] It's hard for me to speak.
[1:26:03] Please please help the public
[1:26:04] see through the clouds of
[1:26:08] litigation so we can understand
[1:26:09] stand the edge of the risks
[1:26:13] that shape our decisions.
[1:26:17] These decisions are for one
[1:26:17] people one family and one San
[1:26:18] Diego.
[1:26:21] It's been a great morning,
[1:26:22] hasn't it?
[1:26:22] Isn't this a great life?
[1:26:27] I'm so glad to be here with all
[1:26:27] of you.
[1:26:28] Love to all Thank you.
[1:26:32] Your next is allegedly Audra
[1:26:33] you'll be speaking on time is
[1:26:36] 5456, 58, 59, 104 to 111.
[1:26:39] You'll have three minutes An
[1:26:40] item 55 since it was pulled.
[1:26:40] We'll call you up then.
[1:26:41] Great.
[1:26:42] Thanks.
[1:26:47] Thanks for pulling that new Oh
[1:26:48] yeah.
[1:26:48] >> So this military equipment I
[1:26:52] just find it interesting You
[1:26:53] guys want to use that on
[1:26:53] the people We had our border
[1:26:57] invaded and nothing just or
[1:26:57] easier on the people.
[1:26:58] I don't know if you guys know
[1:26:59] that Trump is going to do
[1:27:02] nuclear weapons testing in our
[1:27:02] nation.
[1:27:03] He just opened it up hasn't
[1:27:05] been done since 1992.
[1:27:06] Wonder if they'll protect us
[1:27:07] against that?
[1:27:07] Who knows?
[1:27:10] But it's good, right?
[1:27:11] It's good radiation all around
[1:27:15] covering the entire nation So
[1:27:15] yes.
[1:27:20] So for 56 in this zone
[1:27:20] the meter zone boundaries I
[1:27:21] think instead of having
[1:27:25] employees being exempt from
[1:27:26] parking we should actually
[1:27:26] charge more, you know, because
[1:27:30] you guys get your city trucks
[1:27:31] that are exempt.
[1:27:32] You know, the mayor goes in
[1:27:32] parks in the red zone.
[1:27:35] It's like GOD forbid somebody
[1:27:36] else do that the danger zone.
[1:27:36] But it's cool if you're
[1:27:39] the mayor you can do it And
[1:27:40] then let's see 58 This is
[1:27:45] interesting you guys always
[1:27:45] love exceeding your not to
[1:27:46] exceed contracts And who would
[1:27:49] have thought one would start
[1:27:50] out at $3 Million and go up to
[1:27:53] 100 six and it still says not
[1:27:57] to exceed right I mean it's
[1:27:58] going to go up to 500 who knows
[1:27:59] because you guys are already
[1:28:06] getting you know 129,000,001 in
[1:28:07] 600,000 just from the fees that
[1:28:08] you guys are giving people and
[1:28:08] you're putting these rfid chips
[1:28:11] in there which is real
[1:28:12] interesting so that people can
[1:28:13] have their, you know, track
[1:28:16] trash tracked and traced and
[1:28:17] you know, have a gps location
[1:28:18] exact time, you know, So if you
[1:28:21] want to go in there and see
[1:28:22] what's in their trash and I'm
[1:28:23] wondering if you guys are going
[1:28:24] to do weight tracking which
[1:28:26] allows for a weight based fee.
[1:28:27] I'm sure that will come at some
[1:28:27] point.
[1:28:31] But this is very terrifying as
[1:28:32] we are collecting everybody's
[1:28:33] data and we have all of this
[1:28:37] surveillance and this goes all
[1:28:37] the way up to the people like
[1:28:38] BlackRock, Vanguard, State
[1:28:41] Street, JPMorgan, you know all
[1:28:42] the people that you guys love
[1:28:42] so much.
[1:28:43] >> And then with 59, I'm
[1:28:47] wondering, you know with
[1:28:48] the school board districts and
[1:28:52] this is for elections but I'm
[1:28:53] wondering if you can change
[1:28:57] the municipal code for
[1:28:58] the school to ensure that
[1:28:58] pedophiles don't get hired
[1:29:03] because what Scott Wiener is
[1:29:03] attempting to do is to allow
[1:29:09] pedophiles to work in any kind
[1:29:09] of like up here.
[1:29:10] It could be it could be on a
[1:29:11] school board.
[1:29:11] Right.
[1:29:14] Not a rapist, not somebody who
[1:29:14] rapes like an adult.
[1:29:15] But you know, if they rape
[1:29:19] children, it's cool we can hire
[1:29:20] them.
[1:29:20] So I think that's something
[1:29:21] that you guys should work to
[1:29:24] implement to ensure that we're
[1:29:25] not hiring pedophiles because
[1:29:25] that happens It happens with
[1:29:29] you know, teachers aides and
[1:29:30] stuff like that And we're not
[1:29:31] ensuring that that children are
[1:29:35] not getting molested during nap
[1:29:35] time.
[1:29:36] So I feel like you guys could
[1:29:40] do something better to, you
[1:29:40] know, ensure if you do care
[1:29:41] about kids which you guys have
[1:29:45] them And so it's like you're
[1:29:45] trusting them with people that
[1:29:46] you probably shouldn't Maybe
[1:29:47] you should do more about that.
[1:29:47] Thank you for that concluding
[1:29:51] comment.
[1:29:52] Isabelle Kay You're speaking on
[1:29:55] items 54 109 so you'll have two
[1:29:55] minutes.
[1:29:56] Please proceed.
[1:29:56] Thank you.
[1:30:00] Good morning.
[1:30:00] Council PRESIDENT LaCava,
[1:30:01] Council members and staff.
[1:30:05] I wasn't actually planning to
[1:30:06] be here at all today.
[1:30:07] I was just a resident of La
[1:30:11] Hoya Paris.
[1:30:12] Item number 109 and apparently
[1:30:17] we are attorney have settled
[1:30:18] with you for $10 million to
[1:30:22] rebuild 12 units that were
[1:30:23] unnecessarily damaged and red
[1:30:27] tagged and have to be torn down
[1:30:28] because you didn't act in time
[1:30:33] to prevent a Ryan from just
[1:30:34] letting our slide and damage
[1:30:38] all those buildings.
[1:30:39] And now it's been three years
[1:30:40] when people have had nowhere to
[1:30:40] live.
[1:30:44] You stop supporting the poor
[1:30:45] residents of those buildings or
[1:30:45] the people who rented them out
[1:30:50] and it's really been a mess And
[1:30:51] I don't think $10 million is
[1:30:52] enough And what are we going to
[1:30:56] do if it costs more?
[1:30:57] However, I was looking through
[1:31:01] the agenda and I came across
[1:31:02] item number 54 which I cannot
[1:31:03] believe that you are going to
[1:31:07] go ahead and acquire more
[1:31:08] military hardware.
[1:31:08] There's no cost associated with
[1:31:13] it in the agenda.
[1:31:14] And I guess the idea is to kill
[1:31:15] first and try to get to
[1:31:19] the bottom of the solution
[1:31:19] the problems of mental health
[1:31:20] and homelessness after for
[1:31:26] GOD's sake stop going down this
[1:31:26] path of supporting the military
[1:31:31] industrial complex and get
[1:31:31] the money and that effort and
[1:31:32] those expertise into
[1:31:32] the community.
[1:31:38] Stop militarizing our city.
[1:31:38] Please.
[1:31:38] Thank you.
[1:31:39] Oh, I guess I have a little bit
[1:31:40] more time.
[1:31:43] I think more significant really
[1:31:44] than the budget crisis here is
[1:31:49] a common sense crisis among
[1:31:49] decision makers and an empathy
[1:31:55] and integrity crisis to be very
[1:31:56] honest.
[1:31:56] Look at what is going on.
[1:32:02] You are funding for open
[1:32:03] military weapon for thank you
[1:32:03] statement.
[1:32:04] Paul Kruger if you can please
[1:32:07] come forward.
[1:32:08] 5658 12421 11.
[1:32:08] You'll have three minutes.
[1:32:09] Please proceed.
[1:32:13] Thank you very much.
[1:32:14] I want to first on item 56
[1:32:19] which is record keeping
[1:32:19] housekeeping for the parking
[1:32:20] meter zones to urge all of you
[1:32:25] when you are reviewing
[1:32:26] the installation of parking
[1:32:31] meters in residential areas to
[1:32:32] please listen to the businesses
[1:32:36] and the residents in those
[1:32:37] areas who would not.
[1:32:38] And for example in my area of
[1:32:43] Talmage Kensington would not
[1:32:43] strongly oppose a reasonable
[1:32:49] meter times and rates of say 10
[1:32:49] A.M. To 6 P.M..
[1:32:54] Those meters though are from 8
[1:32:55] P.M. To 8 P.M. And it's totally
[1:32:56] impractical for a restaurant or
[1:33:00] a business that's going to go
[1:33:05] for more than two hours in that
[1:33:05] timeframe.
[1:33:06] So please just listen to what
[1:33:10] the community tells you on
[1:33:10] those issues.
[1:33:15] On the $3 million increase on
[1:33:20] item 58, the $3 million
[1:33:20] increase in the waste in our
[1:33:21] recycling and trash bins.
[1:33:25] Two things One is council
[1:33:26] member Bowen Wolpert opposed
[1:33:27] this last time Assuming that
[1:33:31] you will oppose it this time
[1:33:32] could you please once again
[1:33:36] explain why And on this you
[1:33:37] know I was sitting in
[1:33:42] the audience after I asked you
[1:33:43] to please give more
[1:33:46] consideration to how did this
[1:33:47] contract become $106 million
[1:33:48] And I was approached
[1:33:52] unsolicited by a fellow who
[1:33:53] identified himself as a member
[1:33:53] as an employee of
[1:33:54] the Treasurer's department and
[1:33:59] said you need to keep looking
[1:33:59] at this.
[1:34:00] I'm not looking at it.
[1:34:01] I don't have the expertise.
[1:34:04] But what does that say about
[1:34:05] what's going on with this
[1:34:05] expenditure?
[1:34:11] And I would urge you and your
[1:34:11] roles as council members if
[1:34:12] the mayor is not going to take
[1:34:16] the initiative to review this,
[1:34:17] please there's something going
[1:34:17] on here I think.
[1:34:22] And then lastly,
[1:34:27] the settlements It's more than
[1:34:28] $57 million in settlements and
[1:34:31] these items 104 to 111 And some
[1:34:36] of them, you know, at least $7
[1:34:37] million are negligence on
[1:34:37] potholes.
[1:34:38] Another the $6.5 million for a
[1:34:42] scooter fatality, $40 million
[1:34:47] for the water rates, $10
[1:34:47] million for the broken water
[1:34:48] main that caused the flooding.
[1:34:53] Something is wrong here When we
[1:34:53] end up as taxpayers having to
[1:34:58] pay these huge settlements $56
[1:34:59] million and we're down here
[1:35:04] week after week after week
[1:35:05] approving these these
[1:35:11] settlements or jury verdicts.
[1:35:12] >> We need to do more about
[1:35:12] this.
[1:35:13] Thank you very much, Laurie,
[1:35:17] for dying African.
[1:35:18] Please come forward.
[1:35:18] You're speaking on 51 5460
[1:35:23] (210)010-8010 nine You'll have
[1:35:23] three minutes.
[1:35:23] Please proceed.
[1:35:24] Yes.
[1:35:24] First of all, I would say we
[1:35:28] just spent over an hour an hour
[1:35:29] on proclamations and we have
[1:35:32] less time to deal with 27
[1:35:33] items, maybe 1 or 2 less.
[1:35:34] So I personally find this
[1:35:39] practice even though I
[1:35:40] litigated on the proclamations
[1:35:40] nearly ten years ago to have
[1:35:45] the be take place in chambers,
[1:35:46] this is not a way to have
[1:35:46] substantive discussion and I
[1:35:51] would be sitting there if you
[1:35:52] really believe as you read a
[1:35:53] statement about valuing public
[1:35:53] comments you're not giving as
[1:35:57] much time to do that.
[1:35:58] So I don't know what the value
[1:35:58] actually is.
[1:35:59] i have indicated several items
[1:36:03] here and 51 the return on
[1:36:04] investment of digital literacy
[1:36:08] is extremely high So I
[1:36:09] absolutely support that.
[1:36:10] In contrast, item 54 I oppose
[1:36:10] because the return on
[1:36:15] investment of buying military
[1:36:16] resources to police our
[1:36:16] citizens with higher and higher
[1:36:21] grades of intensity a pepper
[1:36:22] ball three of I mean how about
[1:36:26] the escalation to say that
[1:36:27] there is no reasonable
[1:36:28] alternative for public safety
[1:36:28] is just frankly impossible to
[1:36:32] believe there are alternatives
[1:36:33] And you're going to see more
[1:36:34] and more litigation as people
[1:36:38] are harmed by these military
[1:36:39] grade not to mention how are
[1:36:40] you training police officers
[1:36:40] who maybe don't have military
[1:36:46] experience and many of them do?
[1:36:46] What is the cost of training
[1:36:47] them to you safely use if there
[1:36:51] is such a thing some of this
[1:36:51] equipment.
[1:36:51] Okay.
[1:36:52] You pulled one of the items
[1:36:53] here to the afternoon jumping
[1:36:58] ahead I put in a slip for item
[1:36:58] 62 sole source contract for
[1:37:03] emergency storm drain projects.
[1:37:03] Our coastal bluffs are eroding
[1:37:08] and we're about to see a
[1:37:09] massive El Nino cycle continue
[1:37:14] that erosion I remember in
[1:37:15] the 1980s I was working on
[1:37:16] building the new post office in
[1:37:19] Pacific Beach when we had
[1:37:20] the last major El Nino cycle I
[1:37:20] was a carpenter.
[1:37:21] I would show up and we would be
[1:37:21] flooded out.
[1:37:26] I watched Crystal Pier fall to
[1:37:26] pieces and we are about to
[1:37:27] watch a similar thing with our
[1:37:31] coastal bluffs.
[1:37:32] So these damages we are seeing
[1:37:33] are about to happen again in
[1:37:37] real time and these emergency
[1:37:38] repairs are insufficient and
[1:37:44] related to that, why are we
[1:37:45] giving sd any an amendment to
[1:37:50] expand capacity around
[1:37:51] the Mission Bay San Diego River
[1:37:51] area across from where Midway
[1:37:52] is being proposed and Midway
[1:37:56] development Is it related to
[1:37:57] that or is there saltwater
[1:37:57] intrusion in their existing
[1:38:02] lines and they need to expand
[1:38:03] by thousands of square feet of
[1:38:03] their easement so that they can
[1:38:08] move things into the drier
[1:38:08] ground Running out of time here
[1:38:09] let me just say Isabel has been
[1:38:14] out of her home the woman who
[1:38:14] just spoke again because
[1:38:15] the city is not doing enough on
[1:38:20] storm waters and I will speak
[1:38:21] more to that and non agenda
[1:38:21] comment.
[1:38:27] >> Thank you.
[1:38:28] >> That was all done yet we did
[1:38:29] not receive a speaker slip from
[1:38:31] you for 55 which was trailed to
[1:38:31] after 331 this morning.
[1:38:32] So if you would like to speak
[1:38:33] on that item please be sure to
[1:38:37] submit a speaker So we'll go to
[1:38:37] those participating online
[1:38:38] starting with clarification If
[1:38:39] you can please let me know
[1:38:41] which item or items you wish to
[1:38:46] speak to.
[1:38:47] >> Hi Claire Beekman I wanted
[1:38:57] to speak to items 50 5150 four
[1:38:58] and I wanted to speak to 55 But
[1:38:58] it's not going to be it's going
[1:38:59] to be pulled and talk to you
[1:39:02] later So I can just speak to it
[1:39:03] at that time.
[1:39:04] So I guess the other item I
[1:39:09] would like to possibly speak on
[1:39:10] but I MAY not have a lot to say
[1:39:13] is the item 62.
[1:39:14] >> You'll have three minutes.
[1:39:14] Please proceed.
[1:39:19] Thank you.
[1:39:20] To speak first to item 51 this
[1:39:21] was an item that was a digital
[1:39:25] literacy program.
[1:39:26] It was brought to committee a
[1:39:27] few months ago Now it seemed
[1:39:31] like a pretty good program.
[1:39:31] I was interested in it.
[1:39:37] I am still feeling that as this
[1:39:38] item has a certain way to be
[1:39:38] working to be working towards
[1:39:42] digital literacy goals of
[1:39:43] describing open accountable
[1:39:43] practices how a person can be a
[1:39:48] part of the process a
[1:39:49] technology future to describe
[1:39:50] their civil rights and civil
[1:39:55] protection ideas.
[1:39:56] It builds out the ideas of good
[1:39:56] community practices of being a
[1:40:01] good citizen you know, just our
[1:40:02] civil protections, our civil
[1:40:03] rights and it builds our good
[1:40:07] stuff And I think that should
[1:40:08] be a part of how we build our
[1:40:08] digital digital literacy
[1:40:09] programs.
[1:40:13] >> I don't know how to better
[1:40:14] say it, but I think you get
[1:40:14] the gist of what I'm trying to
[1:40:19] say and it's important and I, I
[1:40:20] think it can help young people
[1:40:20] all people I think and everyone
[1:40:21] gets enthused and excited when
[1:40:25] they able to talk about their
[1:40:25] own civil rights and
[1:40:26] constitutional rights.
[1:40:27] So good luck and how to develop
[1:40:30] that into digital literacy
[1:40:36] programs that speak to item 54
[1:40:37] military equipment under
[1:40:42] Assembly Bill 481 I just a
[1:40:43] quickly comment I felt that
[1:40:44] Councilperson pastor brought up
[1:40:44] a really good point In
[1:40:49] the previous months that sdp is
[1:40:49] a bit skimping on how they
[1:40:54] practice their open public
[1:40:54] meeting process.
[1:40:55] They MAY have technically had a
[1:40:56] legal language they technically
[1:41:00] MAY not have and there they
[1:41:01] were skipping that was clear
[1:41:02] and how to talk to the public
[1:41:06] and be accessible in their
[1:41:06] technology practices.
[1:41:07] So they had a good meeting in
[1:41:08] JULY I heard Good luck with
[1:41:12] that.
[1:41:13] It has to be very, very clear
[1:41:14] how we do our things with
[1:41:14] technology in the future.
[1:41:18] You can't just skim around it
[1:41:19] and say you're getting away
[1:41:19] with it.
[1:41:20] You have to be a real earnest
[1:41:20] effort that we're building a
[1:41:24] future of openness and
[1:41:25] accountability for ourselves as
[1:41:25] a full committee process and
[1:41:30] not just for a select few.
[1:41:31] It's important to learn that we
[1:41:31] got to keep learning that and
[1:41:32] that's how we build That helps
[1:41:36] build our better sustainable
[1:41:36] future.
[1:41:40] >> And I quickly offer item 62
[1:41:41] is I wish I had more to say.
[1:41:46] I should have more say on
[1:41:47] the item of a building
[1:41:47] emergency starting a
[1:41:48] replacement project for Crest
[1:41:52] Canyon Park System Hopefully I
[1:41:53] can just noted that this time
[1:41:53] and good luck how you can talk
[1:41:59] about it and good luck how we
[1:42:00] can talk about upcoming item 55
[1:42:00] it's been pulled and get it own
[1:42:04] special time Thank you.
[1:42:04] Thank you.
[1:42:05] Next.
[1:42:09] 7499 If you can please unmute.
[1:42:16] Oh oh does this I'd like to
[1:42:17] speak to items 52 and 61.
[1:42:18] >> You'll have two minutes.
[1:42:21] Please proceed.
[1:42:22] >> Both of these items are
[1:42:23] related to our new computer
[1:42:23] driven electronic environment
[1:42:27] but do these contracts ensure
[1:42:28] that these contractors will
[1:42:28] serve all of the people?
[1:42:29] I have to ask this because I
[1:42:33] continue We see the city giving
[1:42:34] contracts to businesses who
[1:42:35] fail to provide services to
[1:42:39] significant segments of our
[1:42:39] population.
[1:42:40] For example, the city clerk now
[1:42:41] uses a business at Seamless
[1:42:45] Vox.Com where citizens can
[1:42:45] upload their media files for
[1:42:46] this council.
[1:42:46] But the seamless Vox.Com
[1:42:51] website does not work with all
[1:42:51] web browsers.
[1:42:52] So I contacted the city about
[1:42:53] it and I was told just this
[1:42:58] morning that the support and
[1:42:58] port supported browsers for
[1:42:59] seamless docs forms are only
[1:43:03] the current versions of
[1:43:03] the major browsers So anyone
[1:43:04] with older browsers MAY not be
[1:43:05] able to upload media files for
[1:43:09] presentations to this council.
[1:43:10] Those people apparently don't
[1:43:10] matter.
[1:43:11] Let me ask would it be
[1:43:11] appropriate for the city's
[1:43:15] parking meters to only allow
[1:43:16] parking of cars built since
[1:43:16] 2020?
[1:43:17] Would it be appropriate for
[1:43:22] the city to only accept phone
[1:43:22] calls from telephones built to
[1:43:23] 2023?
[1:43:27] Would it be appropriate for
[1:43:28] the city to only accept email
[1:43:28] from software written since
[1:43:29] 2025?
[1:43:29] Of course not.
[1:43:33] Yet that's what some of your
[1:43:34] contractors are effectively
[1:43:35] doing right now Under your
[1:43:39] authority The city must realize
[1:43:40] that private businesses have
[1:43:40] agendas that are not 100%
[1:43:45] compatible with the public good
[1:43:45] .
[1:43:45] It's your duty as
[1:43:46] representatives of the people
[1:43:47] to ensure that all contracts
[1:43:51] with private businesses
[1:43:52] guarantee that all of
[1:43:52] the people are equally served.
[1:43:53] But you are failing that duty
[1:43:57] with so many of your contracts
[1:43:58] from seamless docks to
[1:43:58] the airport concession.
[1:44:03] Shame on each of you for being
[1:44:03] either too lazy or too corrupt
[1:44:04] to ensure that your contractors
[1:44:05] serve all the people.
[1:44:10] No thank you.
[1:44:10] >> Back to the manager If you
[1:44:11] can please email and let me
[1:44:15] know which item or items you
[1:44:15] wish to speak to.
[1:44:16] >> Good morning.
[1:44:20] I have three items I wanted to
[1:44:24] speak to 5354 and 58.
[1:44:25] >> Please proceed.
[1:44:25] You have three minutes.
[1:44:26] Okay, thanks.
[1:44:30] First I just wanted to say how
[1:44:31] an echo Lori Saldana has come
[1:44:32] at them.
[1:44:34] This is completely
[1:44:35] inappropriate.
[1:44:36] Just that too much together so
[1:44:41] many items and have so little
[1:44:42] conversation and no
[1:44:43] presentations about some of
[1:44:48] the items that are on the JULY
[1:44:48] 14th meeting.
[1:44:49] I think there was 30 items and
[1:44:49] like Lori said within an hour
[1:44:54] of proclamation and then like
[1:44:55] 45 minutes on 30 items it's
[1:44:55] completely inappropriate.
[1:44:59] So item 53 is the vehicle lease
[1:45:00] agreement.
[1:45:00] I was going back through my
[1:45:04] notes.
[1:45:05] It looks like SEPTEMBER 15th,
[1:45:08] 2025 we approved the $95
[1:45:09] million in medium heavy duty
[1:45:10] trucks 40 million in light
[1:45:10] duty.
[1:45:15] So it looks like we're going to
[1:45:15] do another 40 million on top of
[1:45:16] that.
[1:45:20] Everyone driving around sees
[1:45:21] all these brand new cars
[1:45:21] driving around everywhere and
[1:45:22] you're telling us we have a
[1:45:23] huge budget deficit?
[1:45:26] It's it's really silly.
[1:45:27] Like I wouldn't be buying a
[1:45:28] brand new car if my you know,
[1:45:32] if I need to reapply my entire
[1:45:33] house.
[1:45:33] And so I just wanted to say
[1:45:34] that.
[1:45:37] And I also couldn't find any
[1:45:37] documentation regarding
[1:45:38] the competitive bidding process
[1:45:43] or I think it 72 our llc dba
[1:45:44] National Authorization Fleet
[1:45:48] Group.
[1:45:49] I saw online that that OCTOBER
[1:45:54] 5th, 2016 based on the results
[1:45:54] of a competitive process in
[1:45:55] Miami-Dade County
[1:45:59] the administering agent on
[1:46:00] behalf of us communities blah
[1:46:01] blah blah entered into a
[1:46:01] contract with Pacific.
[1:46:06] Oh sorry That's down but okay
[1:46:09] sorry Running on item 34 That
[1:46:10] irony that irony we're here
[1:46:14] praising unions and the power
[1:46:15] of unions and mta and good work
[1:46:16] and thank goodness for unions
[1:46:20] while we're military the cpd
[1:46:21] who would have prevented from
[1:46:22] us from having a labor movement
[1:46:25] at all and having unions and
[1:46:26] having a middle class at all.
[1:46:31] We're completely against
[1:46:31] militarizing our our local
[1:46:35] police So it looks like we're
[1:46:36] giving them $100 million from
[1:46:40] the general fund In addition to
[1:46:40] the 18 million we get from
[1:46:41] the us.
[1:46:41] I, I also saw on the fema
[1:46:45] website that a minimum of 10%
[1:46:46] of grant money from the usa
[1:46:46] must be used dedicated to
[1:46:50] supporting collaboration
[1:46:51] between state and local law
[1:46:52] enforcement and ice through
[1:46:56] the 287 b program.
[1:46:56] Pretty sure we're in California
[1:47:00] Pretty sure we don't
[1:47:00] participate in the 287 g
[1:47:01] program so I'm not sure how
[1:47:03] we're getting funding If 10% of
[1:47:04] it has to be dedicated.
[1:47:05] The us Army needs to be
[1:47:09] dedicated to using I don't know
[1:47:12] how we got the $80 million item
[1:47:13] 58 Lastly, no explanation at
[1:47:14] the last meeting for the $3
[1:47:18] million increase to represented
[1:47:19] came up told us nothing.
[1:47:20] $3 million contract ballooned
[1:47:23] to 106 million and there was no
[1:47:24] competitive bid process that I
[1:47:24] could find online or emailing
[1:47:30] and Montana It's ridiculous.
[1:47:30] >> Thank you.
[1:47:31] Your time is concluded.
[1:47:32] The five minutes are also
[1:47:33] concluded.
[1:47:33] There are two speakers in
[1:47:34] the queue.
[1:47:34] No additional speakers will be
[1:47:35] taken.
[1:47:35] Natalie I ask you if you can
[1:47:36] please unmute and let me know
[1:47:37] which item or items you wish to
[1:47:42] speak to.
[1:47:46] >> Continental Rescue 5354 and
[1:47:46] 50 Please proceed to me.
[1:47:47] >> Yes please proceed.
[1:47:51] You have three minutes 50 354
[1:47:51] and 55.
[1:47:56] >> So the 55 was pulled from
[1:47:56] the agenda So we'll give you
[1:47:57] two minutes and then you can
[1:48:00] speak to that one at the at
[1:48:01] the appropriate time.
[1:48:01] >> Please proceed with the two
[1:48:05] items.
[1:48:09] So I do agree with having to
[1:48:10] rush through all of these items
[1:48:15] and get your thoughts together
[1:48:16] and make a comment on all of
[1:48:17] these things in a matter of a
[1:48:19] few minutes.
[1:48:24] But with this the vehicle lease
[1:48:25] agreement so we're financing
[1:48:29] with jp Morgan and Jp Morgan
[1:48:30] Chase has faced major
[1:48:34] controversy for years in
[1:48:35] the last five years who is
[1:48:39] directly associated with
[1:48:44] Jeffrey Epstein these are
[1:48:44] the things that I'm talking
[1:48:48] about when we do business with
[1:48:48] big banks.
[1:48:49] >> I don't care if they're big
[1:48:50] banks, big business that are
[1:48:53] associated with people that are
[1:48:54] directly harming our country,
[1:48:58] the world children and we're
[1:49:02] still doing contracts with this
[1:49:03] bank.
[1:49:08] So to me that just pushes
[1:49:08] everything forward And living
[1:49:13] in this inverted world it's
[1:49:13] crazy to me.
[1:49:14] I don't see how nobody is
[1:49:20] Question anything like how that
[1:49:21] still happens.
[1:49:22] This is why we're in this
[1:49:26] problem because we're
[1:49:27] associating and making it when
[1:49:31] we do business with them then
[1:49:32] we're saying it's okay that
[1:49:32] they do these things In my
[1:49:36] opinion 54 Oh man So it goes
[1:49:36] fast.
[1:49:41] Military equipment How are we
[1:49:45] going to trust that they are
[1:49:50] trained enough to use these
[1:49:50] this equipment I had direct
[1:49:55] contact with sd pd on a
[1:49:56] continuous basis and I'm going
[1:49:59] to say maybe two interactions
[1:50:03] were comfortable and I'm a 411
[1:50:03] woman Thank you.
[1:50:09] >> Thank you.
[1:50:10] Judy Strang If you can please
[1:50:10] unmute and let me know which
[1:50:11] item or items you wish to speak
[1:50:17] to, I'd like to speak to item
[1:50:21] 58 and item 104 Please proceed.
[1:50:22] I'm struggling with the sound
[1:50:26] on my computer so I hope you
[1:50:26] can hear me.
[1:50:27] I'm at work and it's always
[1:50:30] more difficult.
[1:50:31] >> We can hear you.
[1:50:32] Please proceed.
[1:50:32] Very useful to the public In my
[1:50:35] case as I was reviewing 58 and
[1:50:39] one of four in particular that
[1:50:43] when you received the agenda
[1:50:44] through the calendar you cannot
[1:50:48] use the link to open up to get
[1:50:49] the staff report.
[1:50:53] I wonder if there's a way that
[1:50:54] that can be mitigated.
[1:50:55] You have to go back and enter
[1:50:58] it separately directly so that
[1:50:59] you can read the staff report.
[1:51:03] One way this could help us in
[1:51:04] the solving the big problem is
[1:51:04] in a small problem is if you
[1:51:08] could give us just a little bit
[1:51:08] more information for example on
[1:51:12] I'm speaking to these out of
[1:51:13] order I apologize to item 1o4.
[1:51:17] It talks about the payment for
[1:51:23] a settlement that a young woman
[1:51:28] had bought her scooter at 1090
[1:51:28] Roselle Street Street.
[1:51:32] I happen to know really well
[1:51:33] and I know that probably
[1:51:34] the dangerous condition that
[1:51:34] she's responding to and there
[1:51:37] are a lot of them in that area
[1:51:38] I need to drive back and see if
[1:51:38] they've been fixed.
[1:51:42] The last time I saw a fix they
[1:51:42] took a very what could have
[1:51:46] been a very nice met walkway
[1:51:47] and instead or black asphalt I
[1:51:51] guess that somebody's idea of
[1:51:52] fixing it But if you could put
[1:51:53] more information about what
[1:51:56] that alleged was and how much
[1:51:57] the payout was then we wouldn't
[1:51:58] have to go searching in
[1:52:01] the staff report And if we
[1:52:02] could help us very quickly i
[1:52:09] too am gravely concerned about
[1:52:10] $3 million to go to
[1:52:11] the contract regarding our
[1:52:17] co-op to a procurement with
[1:52:22] the Reader Pacific Company man
[1:52:22] $3 million and we are worried
[1:52:23] about our public restrooms So
[1:52:26] some sort of disconnect there.
[1:52:27] >> Thank you.
[1:52:27] Thank you.
[1:52:28] That concludes public comment
[1:52:31] on the consent agenda.
[1:52:31] >> All right.
[1:52:32] Thank you, city Clerk.
[1:52:35] And with that we'll turn over
[1:52:36] to my council colleagues for
[1:52:37] questions, Comments Entertain a
[1:52:38] motion and we'll start with
[1:52:42] council member Campbell Oops,
[1:52:43] my apologies.
[1:52:47] I didn't Thank you.
[1:52:53] >> Council PRESIDENT I will be
[1:52:53] very brief.
[1:52:56] I would like to speak on item
[1:52:57] 111 Kay Hobson will be
[1:53:01] appointed to the Consolidated
[1:53:01] Plan Advisory Board.
[1:53:05] Kay is currently retired but
[1:53:06] prior to that she served as
[1:53:07] Director of finance for
[1:53:10] the County of San Diego and
[1:53:11] after nearly ten years of
[1:53:15] serving it then she then
[1:53:15] retired.
[1:53:19] Prior to that she was
[1:53:20] responsible for financial for
[1:53:21] financial and budgetary
[1:53:24] oversight at the county's
[1:53:25] general services purchasing
[1:53:29] contracting, housing and
[1:53:29] Community Development
[1:53:30] Redevelopment Agency Library
[1:53:33] Registrar of Voters And
[1:53:34] additionally Kay was
[1:53:35] the assistant vice PRESIDENT Of
[1:53:39] Investments at San Diego
[1:53:39] National Bank.
[1:53:43] She also volunteers on the arts
[1:53:44] District Liberty Station Board
[1:53:48] of Directors.
[1:53:49] Kaye earned her Bachelor of
[1:53:49] Arts from the University of
[1:53:52] Texas in Austin and a
[1:53:53] professional certificate in
[1:53:54] accounting from uc San Diego.
[1:53:58] Given her background in finance
[1:53:58] government I believe Kaye
[1:53:59] Hobson would be a great
[1:53:59] addition.
[1:54:03] The consolidated Plan Advisory
[1:54:04] Board and I so appreciate her
[1:54:04] willingness to serve.
[1:54:07] Thank you.
[1:54:08] >> All right.
[1:54:08] Thank you.
[1:54:09] Councilmember Campbell.
[1:54:11] Can I take that as a motion to
[1:54:12] approve the proclamation or
[1:54:12] the consent items?
[1:54:13] All right.
[1:54:13] Thank you.
[1:54:17] And we'll go next to Council
[1:54:17] Moreno.
[1:54:18] >> Thank you.
[1:54:21] I have comments on item 53
[1:54:22] the master lease agreement to
[1:54:26] finance General fund vehicles
[1:54:27] and equipment.
[1:54:27] I'd like to register a no vote
[1:54:31] on item 53.
[1:54:32] I've become uneasy with
[1:54:33] the structure by which the city
[1:54:36] purchases then leases vehicles.
[1:54:37] Last year I didn't support a
[1:54:42] similar items that have come
[1:54:42] through the council now.
[1:54:43] I do understand that this is
[1:54:47] how the city has purchased
[1:54:47] vehicles in recent years but
[1:54:51] I'm uncomfortable with the city
[1:54:52] perpetually issuing debt to
[1:54:52] fund vehicles and equipment for
[1:54:56] our fleet.
[1:54:56] So I will be voting no on this
[1:54:57] item but will be supporting
[1:55:01] the balance of the consent
[1:55:01] agenda.
[1:55:02] And that concludes my comments.
[1:55:03] Thank you.
[1:55:03] All right.
[1:55:04] Thank you, Councilmember
[1:55:04] Moreno.
[1:55:06] So we have a motion by Council
[1:55:09] member Campbell to move
[1:55:09] the consent item from
[1:55:10] the second by council member
[1:55:11] Moreno And we'll go next to
[1:55:15] Councilmember John Wolpert.
[1:55:15] >> Thank you.
[1:55:16] I also would like to register a
[1:55:19] no vote on item 63 and 5855 was
[1:55:20] pulled, right?
[1:55:20] Yes.
[1:55:23] Okay.
[1:55:24] And I just I do have a question
[1:55:29] about the new rfid readers that
[1:55:31] we're purchasing as part of
[1:55:37] item 53.
[1:55:38] >> Do I have that right or item
[1:55:39] 58.
[1:55:39] Good morning.
[1:55:43] Customer one over Jeremy Bauer
[1:55:43] Environmental Services
[1:55:44] Assistant Director.
[1:55:44] >> Okay.
[1:55:45] Sorry I'm 58.
[1:55:49] I have questions on it.
[1:55:50] >> So all of the new trash bins
[1:55:53] that the city purchased were
[1:55:54] equipped with rfid chips but
[1:55:54] we're just now we can't read
[1:55:55] them.
[1:55:58] The trash trucks can't read
[1:55:58] the chips.
[1:55:59] >> The plan has always been to
[1:56:02] do a pilot to buy the actual
[1:56:03] hardware.
[1:56:03] To answer your question, yes
[1:56:04] all the containers comes
[1:56:07] standard with the tags
[1:56:08] themselves embedded in
[1:56:08] the container.
[1:56:12] What we had to subsequently do
[1:56:13] as a step is buy the hardware
[1:56:16] to scan them And we did a pilot
[1:56:17] on one technology.
[1:56:17] The detection rate wasn't high
[1:56:18] enough to meet our operational
[1:56:21] needs so we did not come back
[1:56:22] for a contract amendment to
[1:56:22] purchase the that vendor.
[1:56:26] This action would be to allow
[1:56:27] us to if this current pilot
[1:56:27] were about to begin a
[1:56:31] successful would give us
[1:56:32] the capacity to then buy
[1:56:32] the hardware for that
[1:56:33] technology.
[1:56:36] Okay How open?
[1:56:37] This is why I voted against
[1:56:38] buying new trashcans in
[1:56:38] the first place But I assumed
[1:56:40] when the trash cans were
[1:56:41] purchased we would have already
[1:56:42] tested the technology.
[1:56:45] So how is the council going to
[1:56:46] know whether or not this next
[1:56:47] procurement works And what are
[1:56:50] the rfid program is actually
[1:56:50] working?
[1:56:51] So we are we are comfortable
[1:56:56] coming back in probably around
[1:56:57] DECEMBER to share the results
[1:57:00] of the either via communication
[1:57:01] to council members or if you
[1:57:02] would like us to present an
[1:57:04] informational item to share
[1:57:06] the outcome of the pilot to
[1:57:09] share from there whether we
[1:57:11] would proceed with full
[1:57:12] implementation.
[1:57:12] >> Okay.
[1:57:14] I'm guessing this goes to
[1:57:15] the Environment Committee
[1:57:16] likely we would begin with
[1:57:17] environmental committee first,
[1:57:18] correct?
[1:57:19] >> I will leave that to
[1:57:21] the chair to decide what to do
[1:57:22] but I would request a memo to
[1:57:24] know how the additional money
[1:57:25] we're spending on new rfid
[1:57:25] pilot programs actually works
[1:57:27] out.
[1:57:29] Absolutely.
[1:57:31] Thank you.
[1:57:33] >> Thank you.
[1:57:35] And I'll still be voting no on
[1:57:36] those two items.
[1:57:38] Thank you.
[1:57:40] All right.
[1:57:42] Thank you.
[1:57:44] Council member Yvonne Wolpert.
[1:57:45] And we'll go next to council
[1:57:47] member Isla Rivera.
[1:57:49] All right.
[1:57:52] Thank you so much, Council
[1:57:53] PRESIDENT.
[1:57:55] I just wanted to make sure that
[1:57:57] I register a no vote on item
[1:57:58] 54.
[1:57:59] Um, as I mentioned in the past
[1:58:01] I have concerns about a few of
[1:58:02] the pieces of military
[1:58:03] equipment that are included in
[1:58:04] this action specifically or
[1:58:06] maybe most notably flashbangs
[1:58:07] which while less lethal are
[1:58:11] still dangerous and have
[1:58:12] injured, maimed or killed
[1:58:14] people in the past.
[1:58:19] So understand that within this
[1:58:20] action there are some pieces of
[1:58:24] equipment that are quite
[1:58:25] regular in their use.
[1:58:25] However I have concerns about
[1:58:30] others and so I will be casting
[1:58:31] another vote for that reason.
[1:58:31] Thank you.
[1:58:34] Council PRESIDENT.
[1:58:35] All right.
[1:58:35] Thank you, Councilmember Yellow
[1:58:36] Rivera.
[1:58:36] And we'll go next to
[1:58:37] Councilmember Foster.
[1:58:39] Yes, Thank you, Council
[1:58:40] PRESIDENT.
[1:58:40] I would just like to quickly
[1:58:44] register a no vote for item 50
[1:58:47] for item 58 and item 111.
[1:58:48] And that concludes my comments.
[1:58:48] Thank you.
[1:58:49] All right.
[1:58:53] And did you catch that city
[1:58:54] clerk?
[1:58:54] No.
[1:58:56] Could you repeat those for
[1:58:57] the no vote on item 54?
[1:59:01] Item 58 and item 111.
[1:59:01] I missed the first one.
[1:59:02] Thank you so much.
[1:59:02] All right.
[1:59:05] Thank you for that.
[1:59:06] Not seeing anybody else on
[1:59:10] the lights.
[1:59:11] I'm going to offer just some
[1:59:11] couple of quick comments.
[1:59:15] I know there was unusual amount
[1:59:15] of criticism about the consent
[1:59:19] items.
[1:59:20] One, I certainly encourage
[1:59:20] the public.
[1:59:21] I don't think there's anybody
[1:59:24] in this room that can look at
[1:59:25] the name of a docket item.
[1:59:26] But all that backup material is
[1:59:29] there if you're interested.
[1:59:29] All of these items have had
[1:59:30] robust conversation before
[1:59:33] getting placed on the consent
[1:59:33] item.
[1:59:34] Whether it's a committee and at
[1:59:38] full council And I want to
[1:59:39] thank our city clerk and her
[1:59:43] team for the work they do and
[1:59:44] putting this docket materials
[1:59:48] in front of us and also would
[1:59:48] encourage you to look at
[1:59:49] the current version of
[1:59:49] the Brown Act which actually
[1:59:51] changed consent items and
[1:59:56] actually took actually
[1:59:56] encourage people to have less
[2:00:01] public comment on consent items
[2:00:01] .
[2:00:02] As council PRESIDENT I've
[2:00:02] chosen not to do that.
[2:00:06] I continue our traditional
[2:00:06] practice that whether it's a
[2:00:07] second reading, whether it's
[2:00:08] been heard a committee, whether
[2:00:11] it's been heard at city council
[2:00:12] to continue to add that to
[2:00:12] the consent items.
[2:00:16] So that there another one more
[2:00:16] opportunity for the public and
[2:00:20] for council members to weigh
[2:00:20] in.
[2:00:21] The Brown Act actually changed
[2:00:21] that standard a little bit.
[2:00:24] To my surprise I also want to
[2:00:29] mention a couple of comments
[2:00:30] about the settlement items So I
[2:00:31] have to be careful because they
[2:00:35] were settlement items.
[2:00:35] But on the path item I don't
[2:00:36] know that I can possibly
[2:00:40] explain to the public about
[2:00:41] the nature of that And there
[2:00:45] MAY be a little bit when we
[2:00:45] bring this the water rates
[2:00:50] later this fall and it's just
[2:00:50] an astounding one.
[2:00:55] I also want to mention a little
[2:00:56] bit about the larger Terrace
[2:00:59] Homeowners Association because
[2:01:00] one of the things I thought
[2:01:01] about during proclamations with
[2:01:04] mta is that, you know,
[2:01:05] the mayor and the city council
[2:01:08] make a number of decisions In
[2:01:08] the past two years we've made
[2:01:09] some very difficult decisions
[2:01:10] and yet it is our front line
[2:01:13] employees that are out there
[2:01:14] interfacing with the public and
[2:01:17] MAY be suffering the wrath of
[2:01:18] the public on decisions that we
[2:01:19] have made here at City Hall.
[2:01:23] And I always try to be aware
[2:01:24] and sensitive to that which is
[2:01:24] one of the reasons why I'm
[2:01:25] going to getting off track.
[2:01:27] So let me stop there.
[2:01:31] But the settlement on 109 we're
[2:01:32] paying the price because a
[2:01:36] developer or a civil engineer
[2:01:36] or a city permit process
[2:01:37] allowed a private development
[2:01:41] to build inappropriately close
[2:01:42] to 11 foot diameter storm
[2:01:42] drain.
[2:01:42] The proximity didn't cause
[2:01:46] the sinkhole but appropriate
[2:01:47] stop setbacks had been
[2:01:47] respected.
[2:01:48] It could have been a much
[2:01:51] different story.
[2:01:51] That proximity also made
[2:01:55] the emergency repairs that much
[2:01:56] more expensive.
[2:01:56] So as a registered civil
[2:02:00] engineer I want to emphasize
[2:02:01] design standards matter And
[2:02:01] every time we take a shortcut
[2:02:02] or let somebody get away with
[2:02:06] something it leaves both
[2:02:07] the city and the taxpayers on
[2:02:10] the hook In the future.
[2:02:11] And when that doesn't happen we
[2:02:12] should consider ourselves very
[2:02:12] lucky.
[2:02:15] So with that we have a motion
[2:02:16] by council member Campbell and
[2:02:17] a second by Council member
[2:02:20] Moreno to move the balance of
[2:02:21] the consent items.
[2:02:21] >> clerk Please call the roll.
[2:02:22] I'm sorry the voting system
[2:02:32] Please cast your vote And that
[2:02:33] passes unanimously 8 to 0 with
[2:02:37] Council District five and eight
[2:02:38] voting no on 53 council
[2:02:41] districts four and nine voting
[2:02:42] no on 54 Council districts four
[2:02:42] and five voting no on 58.
[2:02:46] And Council District four
[2:02:47] voting No on item 111.
[2:02:47] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[2:02:48] All right.
[2:02:50] Thank you, City Clerk And thank
[2:02:51] you for paying close attention
[2:02:52] to those no votes on
[2:02:56] the consent items to make sure
[2:02:56] we get it just right.
[2:03:00] All right.
[2:03:00] So at this moment in
[2:03:01] the docket, do we have any
[2:03:04] comment, Mayor, from
[2:03:05] the mayoral office?
[2:03:06] Council member City attorney
[2:03:06] Independent budget analyst or
[2:03:10] city clerk And Wolf, I see
[2:03:11] council member Von Wilbert on
[2:03:11] the lights.
[2:03:11] Yes.
[2:03:14] Thank you.
[2:03:14] I'm guessing everybody is
[2:03:15] seeing the news alert that one
[2:03:16] of our American heroes has just
[2:03:19] passed on.
[2:03:20] Dolly Parton just died at 80
[2:03:20] years old And I want to thank
[2:03:24] her for her incredible
[2:03:25] musicianship, her journey, all
[2:03:25] of the incredible philanthropy
[2:03:26] she did throughout the world
[2:03:29] including teaching children to
[2:03:30] read And Dolly, we will always
[2:03:30] love you.
[2:03:33] So thank you.
[2:03:33] All right.
[2:03:34] Thank you for that.
[2:03:35] We will now proceed with
[2:03:38] the discussion agenda And as a
[2:03:39] reminder we will hear item
[2:03:42] three 31st and then item 55
[2:03:43] which was pulled from
[2:03:43] the consent agenda this
[2:03:44] morning.
[2:03:47] So with that clerk please
[2:03:48] introduce item 330.
[2:03:48] >> Item 330 is a resolution
[2:03:49] condemning the Trump
[2:03:52] administration's attacks on
[2:03:53] higher education and affirming
[2:03:53] the city of San Diego's
[2:03:54] commitment to protecting higher
[2:03:57] education from political
[2:03:58] interference.
[2:03:58] >> Thank you, Council
[2:03:58] PRESIDENT.
[2:04:01] All right.
[2:04:02] >> Thank you.
[2:04:03] So this item is being brought
[2:04:06] forward by District five so
[2:04:06] I'll turn it over to council
[2:04:07] member Von Wolpert before she
[2:04:09] turns it over to her staff for
[2:04:10] the presentation.
[2:04:11] >> Council Member Thank you
[2:04:11] very much Council PRESIDENT And
[2:04:15] as my staff are settling in
[2:04:16] thank you for your hard work on
[2:04:16] this resolution.
[2:04:20] I'm proud to bring forth this
[2:04:20] resolution reaffirming the city
[2:04:21] of San Diego's commitment to
[2:04:22] academic freedom and to
[2:04:25] the tens of thousands of
[2:04:26] students who call San Diego
[2:04:26] home.
[2:04:29] San Diego is one of
[2:04:29] the strongest higher education
[2:04:30] and research communities across
[2:04:30] the country.
[2:04:34] Our universities, colleges and
[2:04:34] research institutions educate
[2:04:35] the next generation, drive
[2:04:39] innovation, support thousands
[2:04:40] of jobs and advance research
[2:04:41] that improves the lives here in
[2:04:43] San Diego and around the world
[2:04:44] .
[2:04:44] The federalist landscape
[2:04:45] surrounding higher education
[2:04:48] continues to create uncertainty
[2:04:48] for institutions across our
[2:04:49] region Here at home
[2:04:53] the campaign by the federal
[2:04:53] Trump Administration to exert
[2:04:54] pressure on our higher
[2:04:55] education institutions and
[2:04:57] reshape federal policy
[2:04:58] affecting our universities and
[2:04:59] colleges is creating turmoil
[2:05:03] across our institutions.
[2:05:03] When institutions face
[2:05:04] uncertainty about funding and
[2:05:07] federal policy, it can affect
[2:05:08] their ability to plan for
[2:05:08] the future, recruit and retain
[2:05:09] talented faculty and
[2:05:11] researchers and maintain
[2:05:11] important programs to support
[2:05:16] our students.
[2:05:17] Trump has raised serious
[2:05:17] concerns regarding his pressure
[2:05:21] to exert political interference
[2:05:21] in higher education
[2:05:22] institutions through his
[2:05:23] threats to withhold federal
[2:05:26] funding depending on whom
[2:05:27] the institution supports and
[2:05:27] accepts his attacks on
[2:05:31] diversity, equity or lgbtq
[2:05:31] community.
[2:05:32] All of our Hispanic serving
[2:05:33] institutions and more shows
[2:05:36] that he is willing to use his
[2:05:37] political bully pulpit as a
[2:05:37] cudgel against our students
[2:05:41] restrictions on academic and
[2:05:42] scientific research,
[2:05:43] suppression of student speech
[2:05:46] and lawful protest in policies
[2:05:46] targeting our transgender and
[2:05:47] international students.
[2:05:51] These actions undermine our
[2:05:51] long standing democratic
[2:05:52] principles including academic
[2:05:52] freedom.
[2:05:53] And we're here as a city to
[2:05:56] stand up and say no.
[2:05:57] So now turn it over to my
[2:05:58] staff.
[2:05:58] Eric Young and Lauren
[2:06:00] Hirschman, thank you.
[2:06:01] >> Good morning.
[2:06:01] Council PRESIDENT And honorable
[2:06:05] San Diego City Council.
[2:06:06] My name is Eric Young, Deputy
[2:06:06] chief of Policy and Director of
[2:06:11] Community Relations for
[2:06:11] Councilmember Monica Wolpert
[2:06:12] and my colleague beside me is
[2:06:13] Lauren Hirschman Community
[2:06:16] Engagement Coordinator for
[2:06:16] Councilmember many of them
[2:06:17] Walberg Today's resolution
[2:06:20] speaks to a core responsibility
[2:06:20] of the city ensuring that
[2:06:21] seniors, universities, colleges
[2:06:25] and research institutions
[2:06:25] remain strong, independent and
[2:06:26] capable of serving the public
[2:06:30] good without undue political
[2:06:30] interference or instability in
[2:06:31] the federal funding.
[2:06:34] This is about protecting not
[2:06:35] just institutions but students
[2:06:40] workers research issues and
[2:06:40] the long term economic and
[2:06:44] civic health of our region.
[2:06:45] San Diego is home to one of
[2:06:49] the most diverse and impactful
[2:06:50] higher education ecosystems in
[2:06:50] the state of California Across
[2:06:54] our city and region, academic
[2:06:55] institutions and
[2:06:55] internationally recognized
[2:06:59] research for research centers
[2:06:59] play a vital role in shaping
[2:07:00] our economy.
[2:07:03] Strengthening our workforce and
[2:07:04] driving innovations that
[2:07:08] benefits communities.
[2:07:09] These institutions are not only
[2:07:10] centers of learning but also
[2:07:13] major economic engines For
[2:07:13] the city of San Diego they
[2:07:14] support thousands of jobs
[2:07:18] throughout the region,
[2:07:18] contribute billions of dollars
[2:07:19] in economic activity and help
[2:07:23] prepare the next generation of
[2:07:23] professionals.
[2:07:24] Research in San Diego continues
[2:07:28] to advance scientific discovery
[2:07:28] ,medical innovation and public
[2:07:29] health initiatives that improve
[2:07:33] lives both within our region
[2:07:34] and across the world.
[2:07:34] The continued success and
[2:07:38] independence of higher
[2:07:39] education institutions is
[2:07:39] directly tied to long term
[2:07:43] prosperity, competitiveness and
[2:07:44] future growth of the city of
[2:07:48] San Diego.
[2:07:49] Recent federal funding cuts,
[2:07:49] grant freezes and legal
[2:07:50] challenges have created a
[2:07:52] significant uncertainty for
[2:07:53] educational institutions across
[2:07:57] the San Diego region.
[2:07:58] Research institutions depend
[2:07:58] heavily on federal grants to
[2:07:59] conduct life saving medical
[2:08:02] research, scientific
[2:08:02] innovation, public health
[2:08:03] studies and workforce
[2:08:07] development programs.
[2:08:08] Reports indicate University of
[2:08:08] California San Diego could face
[2:08:11] potentially losses ranging from
[2:08:12] tens to hundreds of millions of
[2:08:13] dollars annually, forcing
[2:08:17] hiring freezes, delaying
[2:08:17] critical research and
[2:08:18] construction projects and
[2:08:22] reduction in graduate education
[2:08:22] and research opportunities.
[2:08:23] The uncertainty itself has
[2:08:27] created instability, making it
[2:08:28] more difficult for universities
[2:08:28] to recruit.
[2:08:31] Researchers retain talent plan
[2:08:32] long term projects and continue
[2:08:36] major scientific initiatives
[2:08:37] that benefit the public.
[2:08:37] Federal support programs also
[2:08:41] play a major role in expanding
[2:08:42] educational access and
[2:08:42] opportunities for underserved
[2:08:43] communities throughout the San
[2:08:47] Diego region such as Hispanic
[2:08:48] serving institutions otherwise
[2:08:52] known as hci, which funding
[2:08:53] supports counseling services,
[2:08:57] tutoring workforce training,
[2:08:57] academic support programs,
[2:08:58] cultural resource centers and
[2:09:01] first generation student
[2:09:02] success initiatives.
[2:09:02] >> Recent reporting from
[2:09:06] California higher education
[2:09:07] coverage including Cal Matters
[2:09:07] highlights that federal
[2:09:11] proposals and executive actions
[2:09:12] have explicitly targeted
[2:09:16] programs supporting lgbtq
[2:09:16] students and diversity related
[2:09:17] campus services.
[2:09:21] We rely on these programs to
[2:09:21] support working families,
[2:09:22] veterans, immigrant communities
[2:09:26] and other students who MAY
[2:09:26] otherwise face barriers to
[2:09:27] higher education reduction or
[2:09:31] instability in these funding
[2:09:31] streams could
[2:09:32] disproportionately impact first
[2:09:33] generation and historically
[2:09:36] underserved students while also
[2:09:36] weakening the region's long
[2:09:37] term workforce pipeline and
[2:09:41] limiting economic mobility
[2:09:41] across San Diego.
[2:09:45] >> The impact of this
[2:09:46] uncertainty is not abstract it
[2:09:46] is local and immediate.
[2:09:50] San Diego Institute fans rely
[2:09:51] heavily on federal research
[2:09:52] grants and student support
[2:09:55] funding even the perception of
[2:09:56] instability can disrupt long
[2:10:01] term research planning, hiring
[2:10:01] and student services If funding
[2:10:02] streams are reduced or
[2:10:05] conditioned on political
[2:10:06] criteria, the consequences
[2:10:07] include reduced access to
[2:10:11] academic support for first
[2:10:12] generation and low income
[2:10:12] students cuts to counseling,
[2:10:15] tutoring and retention programs
[2:10:16] ,loss of research capacity in
[2:10:20] key academic and research
[2:10:21] fields such as medicine and
[2:10:21] engineering, increased strain
[2:10:23] on local workforce development
[2:10:28] pipelines.
[2:10:29] These attacks are not unique to
[2:10:34] San Diego Other California
[2:10:34] jurisdictions have already
[2:10:35] taken former action to address
[2:10:39] concerns about political
[2:10:39] interference in higher
[2:10:40] education.
[2:10:40] The city of Los Angeles and
[2:10:45] the city and county of San
[2:10:45] Francisco have both adopted
[2:10:49] resolutions affirming academic
[2:10:49] freedom, scientific integrity,
[2:10:50] institutional independence and
[2:10:55] constitu tional protections on
[2:10:56] college campuses.
[2:10:56] These are the solutions
[2:10:59] emphasized that higher
[2:11:00] education institutions should
[2:11:00] be governed by academic and
[2:11:05] scientific standards not
[2:11:05] political ideology and that
[2:11:06] research funding should be
[2:11:10] allocated based on merit and
[2:11:10] professional review at
[2:11:11] the state and local, state and
[2:11:15] national level.
[2:11:16] There's also growing concern
[2:11:17] about policy actions affecting
[2:11:20] admission oversight, diversity
[2:11:21] programs, campus speech and
[2:11:25] research autonomy.
[2:11:26] San Diego now has
[2:11:26] the opportunity to align with
[2:11:27] these principles and reaffirm
[2:11:30] its commitment to protecting
[2:11:31] its own higher education
[2:11:36] ecosystem.
[2:11:36] The resolution before you would
[2:11:37] formally affirm the city of San
[2:11:38] Diego's commitment to
[2:11:41] protecting academic freedom,
[2:11:42] institutional independence,
[2:11:46] scientific integrity,
[2:11:47] diversity, equity, inclusion,
[2:11:51] free speech and the rights of
[2:11:52] students, faculty and staff.
[2:11:56] It also formally condemns
[2:11:57] political interference in
[2:11:57] higher education when such
[2:12:02] actions are used to restrict
[2:12:02] funding or influence academic
[2:12:03] decision making based on
[2:12:07] ideological grounds.
[2:12:07] >> Importantly, this resolution
[2:12:12] also directs the city clerk to
[2:12:13] transmit this action to key
[2:12:13] stakeholders including
[2:12:17] the governor of California
[2:12:18] California Congressional
[2:12:18] Delegation Leadership of the uc
[2:12:23] csu and community college
[2:12:24] systems and local higher
[2:12:25] education institutions
[2:12:29] throughout San Diego.
[2:12:29] This ensures that San Diego's
[2:12:30] position is clearly
[2:12:31] communicated and aligned with
[2:12:35] broader statewide efforts to
[2:12:36] protect higher education.
[2:12:40] In closing this resolution is
[2:12:41] about ensuring that San Diego
[2:12:41] remains the national leader in
[2:12:45] education research and
[2:12:46] innovation.
[2:12:46] It is about protecting students
[2:12:47] access to opportunity,
[2:12:51] safeguarding scientific
[2:12:52] progress and preserving
[2:12:52] the institutional independence
[2:12:53] that allows universities to
[2:12:57] serve the public interest.
[2:12:58] >> I respectfully ask for your
[2:12:58] support.
[2:12:59] Thank you.
[2:12:59] All right.
[2:13:04] Thank you for the presentation
[2:13:04] .
[2:13:05] >> With that clerk please go to
[2:13:05] public public comment and
[2:13:10] confront the PRESIDENT
[2:13:11] Addressing it.
[2:13:11] If you can please come forward
[2:13:12] to the microphone After that
[2:13:15] will be Jonathan Burgos and
[2:13:15] then Lori Saldana.
[2:13:16] Jonathan, if you can please
[2:13:17] come forward to the reserved
[2:13:21] seats at the front And then on
[2:13:25] the agenda one minute per
[2:13:25] person.
[2:13:30] >> This is a great one, isn't
[2:13:31] it?
[2:13:31] It's just a great one.
[2:13:32] You have my total support on
[2:13:32] this.
[2:13:36] Higher education takes us
[2:13:37] higher.
[2:13:42] Higher education takes us
[2:13:42] higher.
[2:13:43] I just absolutely love higher
[2:13:48] education.
[2:13:49] I went very late in life.
[2:13:49] About 40 was the first one in
[2:13:54] my family on both sides to get
[2:13:55] their bachelor's degree.
[2:14:00] So you've got my support.
[2:14:01] My four likes are protecting
[2:14:06] academic freedom, scientific
[2:14:07] research, diversity,
[2:14:08] constitutional rights and
[2:14:13] institutional dependance.
[2:14:14] Therefore be a great
[2:14:14] presentation.
[2:14:19] Thank you so very much And
[2:14:19] being supported I'm a
[2:14:20] cheerleader on this.
[2:14:20] Thank you.
[2:14:25] Love to all Jonathan Burgos
[2:14:25] Good morning Council PRESIDENT
[2:14:26] And council members.
[2:14:32] >> My name is Jonathan Burgos,
[2:14:32] executive director of Christian
[2:14:33] Scholars and Outstanding
[2:14:35] Residents and I'm here in
[2:14:36] support of Resolution item
[2:14:36] three 34,000 personal income
[2:14:37] students that we serve who are
[2:14:41] currently in college.
[2:14:42] Higher education is more than a
[2:14:42] degree It's a pathway to
[2:14:43] economic mobility.
[2:14:48] This fall students were
[2:14:49] the first in their families to
[2:14:49] go to college.
[2:14:50] From our program already to
[2:14:51] Columbia, Cornell, UPenn,
[2:14:55] Caltech and Chu to Harvard on
[2:14:55] full rights Locally we have
[2:14:58] over 200 students attending
[2:14:59] ucsd and over 100
[2:15:00] quintessential states and this
[2:15:00] matters to our entire region.
[2:15:05] San Diego's economic strategy
[2:15:05] calls for 20,000 newly skilled
[2:15:06] workers every year starting at
[2:15:10] 2030 with 84% of those new jobs
[2:15:10] requiring a college degree.
[2:15:11] Higher education is economic
[2:15:15] infrastructure for our region.
[2:15:16] I go down to my son's
[2:15:17] orientation at ucla and I'm
[2:15:21] heading back right after this.
[2:15:22] But as important for me to come
[2:15:23] down here to say that vote in
[2:15:24] favor of this resolution means
[2:15:27] protecting our colleges and
[2:15:28] universities and protecting
[2:15:29] opportunity, economic mobility
[2:15:29] and funding of future.
[2:15:30] >> Thank you for that
[2:15:34] concluding remark, Lawrence I
[2:15:35] don't know if you can please
[2:15:36] come forward and then our
[2:15:36] speaker in chambers of
[2:15:37] the allegedly order please
[2:15:37] proceed.
[2:15:39] But thank you for introducing
[2:15:40] this.
[2:15:41] This is important not only to
[2:15:45] support faculty and researchers
[2:15:46] but remember Department of
[2:15:49] Education and Higher Education
[2:15:50] Title nine This is where women
[2:15:51] and nontraditional students
[2:15:55] have access to equal
[2:15:56] opportunity because of federal
[2:15:56] legislation 50 years ago and we
[2:16:01] really still haven't caught up
[2:16:02] in many ways although women are
[2:16:02] now exceeding that in our
[2:16:03] universities and colleges
[2:16:04] enrollment And maybe that's
[2:16:07] what's driving this.
[2:16:08] San Diego State has the oldest
[2:16:09] women's studies department in
[2:16:09] the country.
[2:16:13] I taught there many years ago
[2:16:14] and I will tell you that we
[2:16:15] were seeing that cuts and
[2:16:15] pushbacks against occupations
[2:16:20] where women tend to enter.
[2:16:20] So make no mistake this is a
[2:16:21] systemic attack not just
[2:16:25] against the current researchers
[2:16:26] and academics and faculty
[2:16:26] members.
[2:16:27] It is also against students,
[2:16:27] especially diverse students who
[2:16:31] are seeking simply the same
[2:16:32] opportunities that previous
[2:16:32] generations of Americans have
[2:16:33] had in higher education.
[2:16:37] So thank you for bringing this
[2:16:37] forward.
[2:16:49] >> Allegedly legislature.
[2:16:50] I actually think we should
[2:16:50] defund education.
[2:16:55] It's not education.
[2:16:56] It's indoctrination
[2:16:56] the Rockefeller slave system.
[2:16:57] Do you guys know anything about
[2:17:02] the Rockefellers You by educate
[2:17:02] yourselves because you guys
[2:17:07] care about Trump and it's like
[2:17:07] he's so minuscule compared to
[2:17:08] these billionaires that are
[2:17:13] running everything.
[2:17:14] i mean they created the medical
[2:17:15] system and it's like you don't
[2:17:19] go in there And I mean we have
[2:17:20] things that are fictitious that
[2:17:20] they're learning like that a
[2:17:24] man can be a woman that's like
[2:17:25] basics And we're teaching
[2:17:31] people that we're redefining
[2:17:31] what things are.
[2:17:32] So it's it's disturbing because
[2:17:33] it is you know, you have to
[2:17:39] control the people by, you
[2:17:39] know, dumbing down to say kids
[2:17:40] can't even read and write when
[2:17:41] they go to school but they sure
[2:17:43] know what genders are They sure
[2:17:44] know how to have incest.
[2:17:44] And it's like it's just that
[2:17:50] because you know it has been
[2:17:51] weaponized and it's unfortunate
[2:17:55] I'm sorry at the moment of time
[2:17:56] we're going to those
[2:17:56] participating remotely.
[2:17:57] We currently have seven
[2:17:57] speakers in the queue.
[2:17:59] Hector if you can please on
[2:18:00] mute you'll have one minute.
[2:18:00] >> Please proceed.
[2:18:05] I agree with what you said, man
[2:18:06] .
[2:18:06] Now you guys got to start
[2:18:07] paying on student loans.
[2:18:12] The school systems enslaving
[2:18:13] the young guys Wait till they
[2:18:16] get out of there with a
[2:18:16] $100,000 student loan for 40
[2:18:17] years.
[2:18:17] 20 years?
[2:18:25] That's what it's getting real.
[2:18:26] Those guys are enslaved at ucsd
[2:18:27] that built those two new high
[2:18:29] rises And you can't get out
[2:18:29] the window.
[2:18:30] The windows just crack because
[2:18:31] they don't want kids when they
[2:18:31] figure out they're going to be
[2:18:34] in debt for 150,000 and they're
[2:18:35] gonna start making 15 bucks an
[2:18:42] hour, they're going to jump
[2:18:43] that a lot of the jobs.
[2:18:47] So no bathrooms in there anyway
[2:18:47] ,let's get real now Kids going
[2:18:48] to go to the library and
[2:18:52] reading your book you want and
[2:18:52] plus I'm for diversity.
[2:18:53] We need some maga hats on
[2:18:54] the board on the council There
[2:18:59] aren't we Got to diversify this
[2:19:00] democratic giant and it's going
[2:19:04] on that it's like an
[2:19:05] abomination to our state your
[2:19:06] time I think that Madison if
[2:19:13] you can please them you all
[2:19:14] right So I'd also like to
[2:19:14] support the important
[2:19:15] principles in my life.
[2:19:18] I'm 330 and protecting academic
[2:19:19] freedom, independent research
[2:19:20] and the ability of scientists
[2:19:20] and universities to follow
[2:19:24] the evidence wherever it leads
[2:19:25] .
[2:19:25] As the wife of a San Diego
[2:19:26] State University professor, I
[2:19:30] support freedom in academic
[2:19:30] research and want
[2:19:31] the transparency of scientific
[2:19:32] principles to be the foundation
[2:19:37] of how we make decisions for
[2:19:38] our families and for our city.
[2:19:38] I want the policies affecting
[2:19:39] children to be based on
[2:19:43] the best available evidence not
[2:19:44] just on political ideology.
[2:19:45] Public health research was
[2:19:50] mentioned multiple times in
[2:19:50] the staff presentation and I
[2:19:51] spent a lot of time speaking to
[2:19:52] this council about youth
[2:19:55] substance use And there's a
[2:19:55] reason that I emphasize
[2:19:56] research when it comes to these
[2:19:57] public health concerns.
[2:20:01] We need researchers to be free
[2:20:01] to study these issues honestly
[2:20:02] and report what they find.
[2:20:03] So I encourage the Council to
[2:20:07] affirm the importance of
[2:20:07] independent higher education
[2:20:08] and scientific research and
[2:20:13] academic freedom that can help
[2:20:13] us make decisions.
[2:20:14] Thank you.
[2:20:15] Thank you, Kathleen Lippert, if
[2:20:20] you can please you can go.
[2:20:25] Thank you.
[2:20:26] This is definitely one of those
[2:20:26] good schools I'd like to share
[2:20:30] some data And troubling
[2:20:31] findings from Cal Matters
[2:20:32] regarding California schools.
[2:20:32] Although school scored big
[2:20:37] increases in funding, their
[2:20:38] academic performance did not
[2:20:38] seem to merit those increases
[2:20:43] And basically the skip basic
[2:20:44] skills such as reading and
[2:20:44] mathematics they measured in
[2:20:49] state federal testing.
[2:20:50] California schools were found
[2:20:50] to be to compare poorly to
[2:20:55] other states For decades
[2:20:55] California voters were told
[2:20:56] the solution was to spend more
[2:20:56] money.
[2:21:01] But the latest data found per
[2:21:05] pupil spending was thousand
[2:21:06] $2,000 above the national
[2:21:06] average with local taxes and
[2:21:11] federal spending increased to
[2:21:12] 17,000 per student And Newsom's
[2:21:17] latest budget it would raise
[2:21:18] the student spending 27,000
[2:21:24] Idaho came in That came in last
[2:21:25] in the Educational Law Center's
[2:21:25] ranking included Blair Beckman
[2:21:29] if you can please and you.
[2:21:29] All right.
[2:21:30] Thank you, Blair Beekman,
[2:21:35] thanks a lot for the efforts on
[2:21:35] this item.
[2:21:40] For every idea that the current
[2:21:41] Trump administration has, I
[2:21:42] mean a couple of them can
[2:21:42] actually be helpful and
[2:21:47] interesting.
[2:21:47] There's several others that
[2:21:48] it's just the absolute idea of
[2:21:48] misery.
[2:21:52] It's really sad and you're
[2:21:53] taking your time here to try to
[2:21:54] work out ways to mitigate that
[2:21:58] misery.
[2:21:59] It'll be so good when he is
[2:22:00] gone and we can deal with
[2:22:01] Republican Party candidates
[2:22:04] that are working more within,
[2:22:05] you know, California structures
[2:22:06] and ideas.
[2:22:10] And I think we'll understand a
[2:22:11] better world that way as simple
[2:22:12] as that and give credit to, you
[2:22:16] know, I to be honest our
[2:22:17] Democratic Party has gone a
[2:22:17] little off the rails and a
[2:22:22] little large.
[2:22:23] It's good luck how we bring
[2:22:24] back a conversation where we're
[2:22:24] all included and contributing
[2:22:28] and from that place.
[2:22:29] I think the decisions here
[2:22:29] today are just awesome and
[2:22:30] the only way to go or the best
[2:22:34] way to go good luck to them has
[2:22:34] concluded.
[2:22:40] >> Jackson Williams Hello, I'm
[2:22:40] Jackson Williams, a
[2:22:41] undergraduate student at ucsd.
[2:22:46] I'm studying political science
[2:22:46] and I'm here to urge you to
[2:22:47] support this resolution
[2:22:47] condemning the Trump
[2:22:52] administration.
[2:22:52] As a ucsd student, I've watched
[2:22:53] this unfold in real time as my
[2:22:54] university is under and under
[2:22:58] federal investigation for a
[2:22:58] medical school admission
[2:22:59] practices.
[2:22:59] We've seen research funding
[2:23:00] frozen international student
[2:23:03] visas revoked and federal
[2:23:04] pressure on administrators to
[2:23:05] eliminate programs or face
[2:23:10] financial retaliation.
[2:23:11] This is an abstract policy that
[2:23:11] affects my education, my
[2:23:12] classmates and my future.
[2:23:16] But more importantly these
[2:23:17] attacks on the principle
[2:23:17] the principles universities are
[2:23:18] supposed to stand for.
[2:23:19] That being academic freedom
[2:23:22] the free exchange of ideas and
[2:23:23] equal access to education.
[2:23:23] When the federal government
[2:23:24] uses funding as a weapon to
[2:23:28] control what universities teach
[2:23:29] and who they admit we all lose,
[2:23:30] our city depends on ucsd
[2:23:34] research and innovation and I
[2:23:35] urge this council to pass
[2:23:35] the resolution.
[2:23:36] Thank you.
[2:23:36] Thank you that I'm out of time
[2:23:41] has concluded There are five
[2:23:41] speakers and the keynote
[2:23:42] additional speakers will be
[2:23:43] taken Tony if you complete and
[2:23:53] you Yes Can I Can I can I see a
[2:23:53] point of order Clarity Is there
[2:23:54] going to be can I just ask are
[2:23:55] you going to be tuned on agenda
[2:23:58] public comment portions today
[2:23:58] Is there one at the 2:00
[2:23:59] meeting as well?
[2:24:03] >> Stay tuned Tony After this
[2:24:04] item concludes I'll give you an
[2:24:05] update on the meeting
[2:24:05] management.
[2:24:06] >> Okay.
[2:24:09] Thank you.
[2:24:10] Then speaking to this item I am
[2:24:15] in support of this item but I
[2:24:15] do feel like at a certain point
[2:24:16] it's sort of a pointless
[2:24:17] resolution because it's just a
[2:24:22] condemnation and that doesn't
[2:24:22] really do anything to actually
[2:24:27] stop the Trump administration
[2:24:28] from being able to do whatever
[2:24:28] it wants.
[2:24:29] We've seen that and we're
[2:24:33] continuing to aid them in other
[2:24:33] ways.
[2:24:34] >> So it's kind of really
[2:24:38] counterproductive.
[2:24:39] It's kind of on paper it says
[2:24:40] that we're opposing Trump and
[2:24:41] that's what it looks like to
[2:24:44] voters and we're appeasing our
[2:24:45] constituent base but we're not
[2:24:46] actually following through with
[2:24:47] that with solid action that
[2:24:51] would entities from being sued
[2:24:56] by the federal government And
[2:24:57] and that's reflected in our in
[2:24:58] our public security and
[2:25:03] surveillance policies.
[2:25:04] Thank you for your comments.
[2:25:07] Yes, Thank you.
[2:25:07] Amanda, if you can please.
[2:25:14] I'm you Yeah my city council I
[2:25:15] mean the district seven are
[2:25:20] huge fan of higher education I
[2:25:24] have worked at ucsd with on
[2:25:24] the campus with these 50
[2:25:25] students for the last six
[2:25:25] years.
[2:25:26] I teach a class at a community
[2:25:31] college and I just like
[2:25:32] the ucsd students and I spoke
[2:25:35] earlier last year I had two
[2:25:36] students and I work with a
[2:25:37] small place that had to
[2:25:42] self-deport And I've had all
[2:25:42] the time students are telling
[2:25:43] me that they're getting their
[2:25:47] grants pulled and getting
[2:25:48] defunded and all their life's
[2:25:49] work is you know, they're
[2:25:53] having to adjust soon and I
[2:25:54] really like this resolution.
[2:25:54] I do echo Tony though that it
[2:25:55] kind of feels like the clearing
[2:26:00] more not necessarily for me
[2:26:00] weapons to actually fight
[2:26:01] the war And so my suggestions I
[2:26:05] wrote was providing a city
[2:26:06] funded space for collaboration
[2:26:07] between universities for them
[2:26:07] to discuss strategy or
[2:26:13] providing legal funding or like
[2:26:13] a legal hotline for them to
[2:26:14] collaborate and figure out what
[2:26:15] kind of weapons they have, what
[2:26:17] think their time is good but
[2:26:23] it's 7499 if you can please you
[2:26:28] please proceed.
[2:26:29] This item speaks of diversity
[2:26:30] and of affirming the city's
[2:26:30] commitment to protecting
[2:26:31] academic freedom, institutional
[2:26:35] independence, scientific
[2:26:36] research, freedom of speech and
[2:26:36] so on.
[2:26:37] That all sounds good but it's a
[2:26:37] lie.
[2:26:38] There is no freedom of speech
[2:26:41] in these institutions.
[2:26:42] There's only freedom of one
[2:26:42] point of view.
[2:26:43] I know this from personal
[2:26:44] experience I worked at the Salk
[2:26:48] Institute in Milwaukee for
[2:26:48] nearly a decade.
[2:26:49] I had an excellent work record
[2:26:50] and all excellent reviews But
[2:26:53] during the George Floyd Mass
[2:26:54] insanity I lost my job because
[2:26:54] I dared to say that quote Good
[2:26:55] lives matter most.
[2:26:56] My statement wasn't out of
[2:27:00] the blue The discussion of
[2:27:01] George Floyd and blm was
[2:27:01] initiated by Fox on Society
[2:27:02] Research Fellow.
[2:27:06] They sent a broadcast email to
[2:27:06] all employees supporting
[2:27:07] the blm movement implying that
[2:27:08] George Floyd was killing
[2:27:11] the institutional racism which
[2:27:12] had never been proven.
[2:27:12] That letter was followed by a
[2:27:13] stream of one sided messages
[2:27:14] supporting that letter.
[2:27:16] I was the first person to
[2:27:17] suggest a different diverse
[2:27:18] opinion and I was fired for
[2:27:18] that opinion.
[2:27:22] There is no freedom of speech
[2:27:22] in these institutions If this
[2:27:23] Partizan Council actually cared
[2:27:24] about real diversity of thought
[2:27:25] and speech you'd be condemning
[2:27:27] the Salk Institute in your own
[2:27:28] backyard rather than making
[2:27:29] your pathetic play on
[2:27:29] the national stage.
[2:27:35] >> Your time has concluded
[2:27:35] Natalie if you can please
[2:27:36] unmute after that Our final
[2:27:37] speaker yesterday String by
[2:27:39] Natalie Rushing.
[2:27:39] So like the last gentleman just
[2:27:44] said this is against all
[2:27:44] humanity.
[2:27:45] If we are not recognizing that
[2:27:46] yet then we're in a real big
[2:27:49] problem.
[2:27:50] There's no Republican there's
[2:27:51] no Democrat.
[2:27:51] This is to get us to a new
[2:27:56] world order a state control
[2:27:57] like he's saying.
[2:28:01] They push this narrative and
[2:28:02] then if you don't agree with
[2:28:03] it, he lost his job.
[2:28:07] This is all by design.
[2:28:08] One administration comes in
[2:28:12] sets it sets us up for the next
[2:28:13] administration, comes in,
[2:28:14] blames them, sets us up for
[2:28:18] more and more and more.
[2:28:18] We aren't seeing that yet.
[2:28:24] It's against everybody All of
[2:28:24] education.
[2:28:29] It's so right in our faces.
[2:28:30] The solution is everybody stand
[2:28:34] down, Pull your kids from
[2:28:34] the school system.
[2:28:35] Don't go to work at
[2:28:35] the university.
[2:28:40] Everybody needs to stand down.
[2:28:40] Thank you.
[2:28:41] Thank you.
[2:28:42] And you do strain if you can
[2:28:42] please.
[2:28:45] And you.
[2:28:45] Good afternoon.
[2:28:51] I wanted to share some thoughts
[2:28:51] regarding item 330.
[2:28:52] They're sort of uncomfortable
[2:28:56] for me.
[2:28:56] While I heavily support higher
[2:28:57] education and I'm well
[2:29:01] acquainted by San Diego State
[2:29:02] and ucsd and our wonderful
[2:29:07] community college system and I
[2:29:08] have grandchildren in all of
[2:29:08] those schools and many other
[2:29:12] California supportive schools
[2:29:12] throughout California.
[2:29:17] I am concerned about
[2:29:18] the capacity for the diversity
[2:29:18] of opinions to flourish on our
[2:29:23] campuses And this does seem
[2:29:23] like bashing Trump doesn't get
[2:29:27] us there.
[2:29:28] A more healthy dialog could
[2:29:32] occur regarding what we'd like
[2:29:33] to see first on campus Are they
[2:29:34] really getting the full world
[2:29:38] view?
[2:29:39] What's going out there?
[2:29:39] I'm concerned about the optics
[2:29:43] of this particular proposal.
[2:29:44] Is it in all of our best
[2:29:48] interest to help our students
[2:29:49] by this type of resolution?
[2:29:49] >> Thank you.
[2:29:49] Thank you.
[2:29:53] That concludes a comment on
[2:29:54] this item.
[2:29:54] >> All right.
[2:29:55] Thank you, City Clerk I'll turn
[2:29:57] over to my colleagues.
[2:29:58] Please be aware of the time and
[2:29:59] a couple of items that we need
[2:30:03] to take care of before we break
[2:30:04] for the lunch recess and we'll
[2:30:04] go to council member Von
[2:30:08] Wolpert.
[2:30:08] >> Thank you very much.
[2:30:09] I'm happy to make the motion to
[2:30:10] approve this resolution and
[2:30:13] thank you to my incredible
[2:30:14] staff for all the work you've
[2:30:18] done on this in MAY or MAY 30th
[2:30:18] of 25 a headline came out
[2:30:19] Raquel Cameras that said Trump
[2:30:22] signed California lgbtq Plus
[2:30:23] centers to justify big cuts to
[2:30:26] their campuses and he named
[2:30:27] the San Diego Community College
[2:30:31] System in his remarks from
[2:30:36] FEBRUARY 26th, 26, EdSource, a
[2:30:37] national paper on education,
[2:30:38] claimed that Trump
[2:30:41] administration Congress leave
[2:30:42] Hispanic serving serving
[2:30:46] colleges confused over funding
[2:30:47] because he wanted to cut so
[2:30:48] much of the hsa grants that
[2:30:51] were canceled simply because
[2:30:51] they had the word Hispanic
[2:30:52] serving in their name.
[2:30:53] This is an attack on our
[2:30:56] academic freedom.
[2:30:57] It is attack on our students,
[2:30:58] an attack on our way of life
[2:30:58] here in San Diego.
[2:31:01] Earlier this year we held a
[2:31:01] press conference to raise
[2:31:02] awareness of this and I was
[2:31:06] proud to be joined at the press
[2:31:06] conference announcing this
[2:31:07] resolution by Ricardo Miranda,
[2:31:10] the vice PRESIDENT Of external
[2:31:11] affairs for Associated Students
[2:31:12] at uc San Diego, Chancellor
[2:31:15] Gregory Smith to the City of
[2:31:15] Community College District, our
[2:31:16] community college PRESIDENT And
[2:31:17] members of the Board of
[2:31:20] Trustees and students who are
[2:31:21] facing the academic pressures
[2:31:25] from our federal government on
[2:31:25] a daily basis.
[2:31:26] I especially want to recognize
[2:31:26] Chancellor Smith for his
[2:31:30] leadership When the Federal
[2:31:30] grants supporting certain
[2:31:31] student success initiatives
[2:31:32] were no longer available due to
[2:31:34] the discrimination in
[2:31:35] the federal government, the San
[2:31:36] Diego Community College
[2:31:36] District stepped up and
[2:31:37] reallocated funding to help
[2:31:39] continue programs supporting
[2:31:40] stem students from historically
[2:31:44] underserved communities.
[2:31:45] I would also like to thank and
[2:31:45] recognize Jonathan Burgos for
[2:31:46] being here today.
[2:31:49] Thank you for coming down from
[2:31:49] your son.
[2:31:50] The admission weekend to ucla.
[2:31:51] It's very exciting that he's
[2:31:54] going to ucla who is
[2:31:55] the founder and director of
[2:31:55] first Gen scholars for your
[2:31:59] leadership and commitment to
[2:31:59] supporting our first generation
[2:32:02] students throughout San Diego.
[2:32:03] First Gen Scholars was created
[2:32:03] specifically to address cold
[2:32:04] exceptions college acceptance
[2:32:07] retention and graduation among
[2:32:08] some of San Diego's most
[2:32:08] underserved communities.
[2:32:12] And Jonathan, your work is
[2:32:13] exactly why investments in
[2:32:13] these programs matter.
[2:32:17] As you said, they become some
[2:32:18] of the best workforce retention
[2:32:19] grants and agreements we can
[2:32:22] have.
[2:32:22] Thank you for getting the next
[2:32:23] generation of workers ready to
[2:32:27] serve San Diego and First Gen
[2:32:27] scholars helped provide
[2:32:28] guidance to the mentorships
[2:32:29] community and described as
[2:32:31] organization is helping first
[2:32:32] generation low income students
[2:32:33] navigate the incredibly complex
[2:32:37] college admission process
[2:32:37] financial aid and they are
[2:32:38] ultimately go on to graduate
[2:32:42] oftentimes without student
[2:32:42] debt.
[2:32:42] The federal government has
[2:32:46] moved to eliminate funding for
[2:32:47] several minority institution
[2:32:48] programs which will increase
[2:32:48] the student debt load on many,
[2:32:51] many students here.
[2:32:52] So this resolution sends a
[2:32:53] clear message San Diego Values
[2:32:56] Academic freedom, scientific
[2:32:57] integrity, institutional
[2:32:58] independence, free speech and
[2:33:01] the ability of our institutions
[2:33:02] to pursue education and
[2:33:02] research based on expertise,
[2:33:06] evidence and professional
[2:33:07] standards By standing up for
[2:33:07] higher education we are
[2:33:11] standing up for our students,
[2:33:12] our workforce, our economy, our
[2:33:13] government and our democracy.
[2:33:16] I respectfully ask for your
[2:33:17] support for this resolution.
[2:33:17] Thank you.
[2:33:18] And that concludes my motion.
[2:33:19] All right.
[2:33:21] Thank you Council member.
[2:33:22] Also we have a motion by
[2:33:23] council member Vaughn Wolpert
[2:33:23] to move the resolution.
[2:33:27] We'll go next to council member
[2:33:28] Whitman.
[2:33:28] Thank you very much Council
[2:33:29] PRESIDENT I have a lot I could
[2:33:30] say about the Trump
[2:33:31] administration's approach to
[2:33:31] higher education but given
[2:33:32] the hour I will thank Council
[2:33:36] member Wilpert and her team for
[2:33:37] bringing this forward and I
[2:33:37] will second the motion.
[2:33:38] >> All right.
[2:33:38] Thank you, sir.
[2:33:42] So we have a motion by council
[2:33:42] member Von Wilpert and a second
[2:33:43] by Council member Whitburn.
[2:33:45] See no one else in the lights.
[2:33:46] >> Clerk Please call the roll.
[2:33:46] I started the voting system.
[2:33:54] Please cast your vote That
[2:33:58] passes unanimously 7 to 0 with
[2:33:59] Council Member Campo and
[2:34:00] Council member Foster Absent
[2:34:02] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[2:34:03] right.
[2:34:03] >> As promised to one of
[2:34:08] the public speakers, one of
[2:34:09] the jobs of the Council
[2:34:09] PRESIDENT Is to manage
[2:34:10] the meeting.
[2:34:13] So item 55 which was pulled off
[2:34:16] the consent will be heard at 2
[2:34:17] P.M. And we will take that item
[2:34:22] first and we will take all of
[2:34:22] the non agenda public comment
[2:34:23] for those that are in chambers
[2:34:26] right now and I believe there's
[2:34:27] six of them and we will take
[2:34:31] the virtual non agenda public
[2:34:32] comment at the end of this
[2:34:32] afternoon session.
[2:34:36] So I want to make sure at least
[2:34:37] four of my colleagues are
[2:34:39] hanging tough for the six not
[2:34:40] agenda public comments that are
[2:34:41] actually in person and respect
[2:34:44] the time that they have waited
[2:34:45] to be here.
[2:34:46] So I'm going to take a picture
[2:34:51] with our Okay Yeah okay.
[2:34:56] >> So let's go to non agenda
[2:34:57] public comment for those in
[2:34:58] person And again virtual will
[2:35:01] be taken after the afternoon
[2:35:07] session So business there
[2:35:08] council PRESIDENT Perl 2.7 on
[2:35:09] agenda public comment is an
[2:35:09] opportunity for members of
[2:35:10] the public to comment on items
[2:35:11] that are not on the agenda
[2:35:12] within the subject matter of
[2:35:12] the City Council.
[2:35:15] Each speaker will have two
[2:35:16] minutes.
[2:35:17] Jacob Lewis if you can please
[2:35:17] come forward to the microphone
[2:35:18] after that.
[2:35:21] Joyce initiative you can come
[2:35:21] to the front row as well as
[2:35:25] Bailey Murphy allegedly Audra
[2:35:25] Paul Krueger and Lori Saldana.
[2:35:26] If you can all please come
[2:35:30] forward to the front row.
[2:35:30] Jacob, please proceed with
[2:35:31] the two minutes.
[2:35:34] Good afternoon, Council men and
[2:35:35] women standing before you today
[2:35:43] to speak of proposing amending
[2:35:44] the 27 budget to include
[2:35:48] the Neil Daigle Center.
[2:35:49] There was a situation a couple
[2:35:50] months back a few months back
[2:35:53] where federal money is used as
[2:35:53] a weapon and federal money was
[2:35:58] used as a weapon over
[2:35:58] the Father Jones organization
[2:36:02] which included the Neil Diamond
[2:36:03] Center.
[2:36:03] Now this New Day Goods Center
[2:36:04] is a resource center for
[2:36:08] homeless folk.
[2:36:09] It does more than folk would
[2:36:12] ever realize for these people's
[2:36:13] livelihoods.
[2:36:13] Now for federal money to be
[2:36:17] held over organization heads it
[2:36:18] is an outrage.
[2:36:23] I ask I ask that local leaders
[2:36:28] you all consider amending
[2:36:28] the 27 budget to assist
[2:36:32] the Neil j Good Center getting
[2:36:32] the funding it needs.
[2:36:33] It's going to be moving
[2:36:37] locations and it needs funding
[2:36:37] to please consider that.
[2:36:38] I mean if you look at
[2:36:41] the budget and the way we're
[2:36:42] spending money I think it could
[2:36:47] be amended for the Neil Daigle
[2:36:48] Center to be funded locally So
[2:36:51] we should respect and Father
[2:36:52] Joe should not put up with
[2:36:56] federal money held over its
[2:36:56] head or any other organization
[2:37:00] nor locally should we put up
[2:37:01] with it that federal money
[2:37:02] should not be used as a weapon.
[2:37:06] Federal money That's our money.
[2:37:07] We pay federal taxes to assist
[2:37:11] us not be used against us as a
[2:37:11] weapon.
[2:37:16] So I'm standing here before you
[2:37:16] to ask to please consider
[2:37:21] the funding of Neil Daggett
[2:37:22] Center to amend the 27 budget
[2:37:25] to do just that and that is for
[2:37:26] the livelihoods of homeless
[2:37:27] folk that need that center.
[2:37:30] Thank you and GOD bless you
[2:37:31] Jason, if you can please come
[2:37:35] forward I'll add a little bit
[2:37:39] to what he just said.
[2:37:40] Yes, it's happening with
[2:37:44] the Neil Good day Center And so
[2:37:44] here we go.
[2:37:49] Could we just look everybody
[2:37:49] John Brady and everyone look at
[2:37:50] where is the golden opportunity
[2:37:54] And it's closing.
[2:37:54] Let's not get discouraged or
[2:37:58] give up.
[2:37:59] Okay?
[2:37:59] Let's look for the golden
[2:38:00] opportunity and have a robust
[2:38:04] conversation between all and
[2:38:04] make that happen.
[2:38:05] I'm actually speaking on
[2:38:08] lifeguards So here we go.
[2:38:13] More work needs to be done at
[2:38:13] the state of California
[2:38:14] government level to keep
[2:38:18] the momentum going on changing
[2:38:22] lifeguards to be classified as
[2:38:23] first responder was a big thank
[2:38:24] you to state Senator Catherine
[2:38:28] Blake spear for her work on
[2:38:32] this matter and for plans to
[2:38:32] introduce a formal statutory
[2:38:37] bill in a future legislative
[2:38:37] session.
[2:38:42] I encourage all of San Diegans
[2:38:43] let's all of us rise up and
[2:38:46] fight for this.
[2:38:47] It doesn't look like it's going
[2:38:47] to be a fight.
[2:38:48] It's got really good momentum.
[2:38:51] Well it's got legs so I
[2:38:52] encourage all San Diego to do
[2:38:56] whatever you can to back our
[2:39:00] lifeguards on this change
[2:39:05] Lifeguards do respond first and
[2:39:10] by doing so they guard life
[2:39:15] love all lifeguards and they're
[2:39:15] coming forward with their power
[2:39:19] And I'm so happy for that.
[2:39:20] So it's been a great, great day
[2:39:21] already.
[2:39:24] So thank you everybody.
[2:39:25] I just loved it.
[2:39:29] Love to all Bailey Murphy.
[2:39:30] Bailey Murphy, are you here?
[2:39:31] Allegedly.
[2:39:42] Audra, please come forward real
[2:39:42] quick.
[2:39:43] Can I call a point of order
[2:39:44] about what you said about
[2:39:47] the Brown Act That's actually
[2:39:47] not true.
[2:39:48] It was the reverse with
[2:39:49] committees You didn't have to
[2:39:50] put it and allow people to
[2:39:52] speak but now you actually do
[2:39:52] Anyway, Thanks.
[2:39:53] I just thought that was
[2:39:57] interesting.
[2:39:57] Why would they do that?
[2:39:58] I need you guys to go further
[2:40:02] than your You guys hate Trump.
[2:40:02] Let's keep going to understand
[2:40:06] the people above Trump Right?
[2:40:07] I'm talking these bankers like
[2:40:08] I don't understand why you guys
[2:40:11] focus on Trump.
[2:40:12] He's a puppet.
[2:40:12] You guys realize that, right?
[2:40:16] Every PRESIDENT Is they all
[2:40:17] pick them.
[2:40:17] It's not by chance that these
[2:40:20] things happen But I think that
[2:40:21] you guys need to be concerned
[2:40:21] about all of these the ones
[2:40:25] above like I'm talking
[2:40:26] Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Jp
[2:40:30] Morgan, all of these banking
[2:40:31] entities that you guys engage
[2:40:35] in and we're giving all our
[2:40:36] data to them And this is I'm
[2:40:36] talking in the echelons of
[2:40:40] the Epstein own cia Mossad
[2:40:41] operation that you guys should
[2:40:44] be concerned about because
[2:40:45] these people are taking data of
[2:40:49] our children and they do very
[2:40:50] nefarious things to children.
[2:40:51] I don't I'm sure you guys don't
[2:40:55] want to look into the Epstein
[2:40:55] files but it's pretty
[2:41:00] disturbing What is taking place
[2:41:00] and how there is no
[2:41:01] accountability.
[2:41:01] That is why Epstein's not dead.
[2:41:05] The operation is still in full
[2:41:05] flux and that's why it should
[2:41:06] concern you guys that we're
[2:41:07] actually getting bed with
[2:41:09] Israel which was created in
[2:41:14] 1948 by the Rothschilds.
[2:41:19] It is not the GOD Israel of
[2:41:20] the Bible, it is the synagogue
[2:41:20] of Satan.
[2:41:21] And it is very disturbing that
[2:41:24] these people do satanic rituals
[2:41:24] on children and other human
[2:41:29] beings And it's like and we're
[2:41:29] giving them our data through
[2:41:34] this surveillance And so it's
[2:41:35] like you guys concentrate on
[2:41:39] Trump But I don't understand
[2:41:39] why you can't go further than
[2:41:41] that, especially those of you
[2:41:46] that have children because I'm
[2:41:47] talking they eat the intestines
[2:41:51] of babies when it has curdled
[2:41:52] milk in it and put it on bagels
[2:41:56] Your time is concluded Paul
[2:41:57] Krueger I don't call Krueger
[2:41:57] here.
[2:41:58] Laurie Saldana if you can
[2:42:02] please come forward.
[2:42:03] >> Laurie Saldana Yeah because
[2:42:09] I hear left okay I will just
[2:42:10] say regarding the Brown Act
[2:42:11] there is the law and then there
[2:42:13] is what makes sense and what's
[2:42:14] right And if you're dealing
[2:42:18] with millions of dollars in
[2:42:19] investments and not giving us
[2:42:23] reports it's it's not really
[2:42:23] right.
[2:42:24] Case in point a civil engineer
[2:42:27] just recently noted that
[2:42:28] shortcuts around major
[2:42:29] infrastructure are not a good
[2:42:33] idea under the star that
[2:42:36] represents the Midway area is a
[2:42:37] 96 inch sewage line that a
[2:42:37] contract was awarded or
[2:42:41] exclusive negotiation rights
[2:42:42] was awarded to a company and
[2:42:43] that 96 inch sewer line was not
[2:42:46] properly identified.
[2:42:47] So shortcuts don't make sense
[2:42:51] including the Midway Project.
[2:42:51] Next slide please.
[2:42:52] The Midway Project You know
[2:42:56] yesterday we were speaking
[2:42:56] about it despite your best
[2:42:57] efforts to block it.
[2:43:00] >> But the fact is we have sea
[2:43:01] level rise.
[2:43:01] >> Pardon the noise.
[2:43:02] This is happening during high
[2:43:02] tide.
[2:43:05] Not storm high tides Not only
[2:43:06] new high tides just regular old
[2:43:10] high tides and if you're going
[2:43:11] to build in the coastal
[2:43:11] communities you need innovative
[2:43:15] ways to do so without sediment
[2:43:15] Threaten the public safety
[2:43:16] going forward.
[2:43:20] Next slide please I think is
[2:43:20] the Blasio effect and you've
[2:43:24] seen this before but I know as
[2:43:25] somebody who has taught tech
[2:43:25] and information technology for
[2:43:26] many years you have to repeat
[2:43:30] things to people for them to
[2:43:30] get the message.
[2:43:31] So when the storm water is
[2:43:34] coming up that is our
[2:43:35] stormwater system being
[2:43:35] overwhelmed.
[2:43:36] I call that the Bellagio effect
[2:43:38] because the storm water
[2:43:39] department welded those in
[2:43:40] place to prevent them from
[2:43:43] rising up from the storm water
[2:43:44] and cause a tripping hazard.
[2:43:45] So now we have jets and
[2:43:48] fountains of water representing
[2:43:49] just how powerful the sea does
[2:43:49] not respond to legislation.
[2:43:53] It is coming after us and it is
[2:43:54] coming after what we build in
[2:43:54] the coastal zone.
[2:43:58] So you MAY have repealed
[2:43:58] Measure c but I think
[2:44:02] the intent of the state
[2:44:03] legislature is to still build
[2:44:04] in an area that even civil
[2:44:07] engineers agree is a shortcut.
[2:44:08] >> Midway area is sinking.
[2:44:13] Please don't build there.
[2:44:13] >> Thank you.
[2:44:14] That does include knowledge in
[2:44:15] a public comment hearing
[2:44:15] Council chambers All right.
[2:44:16] Thank you.
[2:44:18] City Clerk And just to repeat
[2:44:18] we will take the virtual non
[2:44:19] agenda public comment at
[2:44:19] the end.
[2:44:22] At the end of our afternoon
[2:44:23] session and we will also take
[2:44:27] item 55 which was pulled from
[2:44:30] the consent agenda First up at
[2:44:31] 2 P.M. When we reconvene.
[2:44:32] So we will now adjourn for
[2:44:32] the noon recess and reconvene
[2:44:34] in open session at 2 P.M. Or
[2:44:53] shortly thereafter.
[2:54:13] Following
[2:58:48] and
[2:58:48] All right, good afternoon.
[2:58:53] >> I will now reconvene
[2:58:54] the City Council meeting of
[2:58:54] Tuesday, AUGUST 25th 2026.
[2:58:58] Clerk Please.
[2:58:59] Clerk Please call the roll.
[2:58:59] Thank you.
[2:59:00] Council PRESIDENT Council
[2:59:03] Member Campbell Council Member
[2:59:04] Whitburn here Council Member
[2:59:08] Foster You're Council Member
[2:59:09] Ron Wilpert Council PRESIDENT
[2:59:13] Pro Tem Lee Council Member Can
[2:59:17] you hear Council Member Moreno
[2:59:18] present Council member Eli
[2:59:19] Rivera and Council PRESIDENT
[2:59:23] LaCava present Also attend
[2:59:24] the meeting Our Assistant City
[2:59:25] Attorney Lizzie Fitzgerald
[2:59:25] Independent Budget Analyst
[2:59:29] Charles Monica Council Affairs
[2:59:29] Advisor in the Mayor's office
[2:59:30] Curtis Iser and myself your
[2:59:33] city clerk Diana Fuentes Thank
[2:59:34] you Council PRESIDENT All
[2:59:34] right.
[2:59:34] Thank you.
[2:59:35] City Clerk We will start this
[2:59:37] afternoon with item 55 Paul
[2:59:38] from the consent agenda this
[2:59:38] morning and then trailed to
[2:59:42] this afternoon Before I ask
[2:59:43] the city clerk to introduce
[2:59:47] item 55 Councilmember Moreno,
[2:59:48] would you like to make a
[2:59:48] statement?
[2:59:49] >> Thank you.
[2:59:51] I'm recusing myself from an
[2:59:51] agenda item 55 Southwest
[2:59:52] Village Specific plan Project
[3:00:00] number pr Jade Dash 0614279.
[3:00:01] I have a conflict of interest
[3:00:02] because the project will have a
[3:00:05] material financial interest on
[3:00:06] residential property that I
[3:00:06] own.
[3:00:07] I will leave the status and not
[3:00:08] participate in the discussion
[3:00:13] or vote.
[3:00:14] All right, Thank you council
[3:00:15] member and only for you to
[3:00:18] leave Chambers And with that
[3:00:23] clerk please introduce item 55.
[3:00:24] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[3:00:26] Item 55 is a Southwest Village
[3:00:30] specific plan Project number
[3:00:30] prj0614791 If you'd like to
[3:00:31] speak on this item please
[3:00:35] submit a speaker slip now or
[3:00:36] raise your hand by pressing
[3:00:37] pressing star nine or the raise
[3:00:39] your hand icon There will be
[3:00:40] one minute per person.
[3:00:41] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[3:00:41] right.
[3:00:41] Thank you.
[3:00:44] As noted this item was
[3:00:45] originally heard by the full
[3:00:46] council with robust public
[3:00:49] participation on JULY 6th of
[3:00:50] this year During the items
[3:00:54] first reading the item in front
[3:00:54] of the city is a second reading
[3:00:55] required under our municipal
[3:00:55] code.
[3:00:59] So I will be waiving today's
[3:01:00] presentation unless any of my
[3:01:04] colleagues object not seeing
[3:01:04] any.
[3:01:05] >> So with that clerk please
[3:01:06] proceed with public comment
[3:01:10] Allegedly.
[3:01:11] Andrew if you can please come
[3:01:12] up to the microphone after that
[3:01:12] will be joining item And then
[3:01:15] we do have two people Alan
[3:01:16] Kershaw and Elizabeth Hanson
[3:01:19] here that would like to
[3:01:20] register their position in
[3:01:20] favor but do not wish to speak.
[3:01:24] Please proceed.
[3:01:25] >> Yes, I think you guys need
[3:01:25] to recuse yourself or sometimes
[3:01:30] Henry when you guys are going
[3:01:31] to be profiting off of projects
[3:01:34] school Yes, this is interesting
[3:01:35] because you guys have a lawsuit
[3:01:39] about this and and so it'll be
[3:01:40] interesting to see what happens
[3:01:44] with that And it's confusing
[3:01:45] when you say this is going to
[3:01:49] be a complete community and it
[3:01:50] seems contradictory to your
[3:01:51] plan when it's not really near
[3:01:55] anything.
[3:01:55] It's in the middle of nowhere,
[3:01:56] right?
[3:01:56] I mean if we build it they will
[3:02:00] come right eventually people
[3:02:01] will have public transit and it
[3:02:01] will be a complete community.
[3:02:02] But there's another concern is
[3:02:05] try point homes is got a
[3:02:06] consistent pattern of
[3:02:10] workmanship and structural
[3:02:10] issues.
[3:02:11] They have warranty denials and
[3:02:12] different things like that and
[3:02:16] they have also completely sold
[3:02:17] their properties to investors.
[3:02:17] So I'm wondering if you have
[3:02:21] anything in place to make sure
[3:02:21] that this property isn't going
[3:02:22] to be sold to an investor and
[3:02:23] not really be affordable at
[3:02:26] some point.
[3:02:27] Jason Yard if you can please
[3:02:31] come forward.
[3:02:37] >> Thank you so much.
[3:02:38] I really struggled with saying
[3:02:43] these words but I did fill out
[3:02:43] a slip that said in opposition
[3:02:47] Yet let me clarify that a bit.
[3:02:48] How do you say yes to the good
[3:02:52] the bad and the ugly?
[3:02:53] No, that's pretty strong.
[3:02:57] And I want to tell you
[3:02:58] the honesty about that.
[3:02:59] I need to go back and become a
[3:03:03] child in the community area and
[3:03:04] find out what it means to learn
[3:03:09] to be an underserved community,
[3:03:10] to be somebody that strives for
[3:03:15] these beautiful projects.
[3:03:15] I'm looking at it from such a
[3:03:16] superficial surface I don't
[3:03:20] like I don't want you to vote
[3:03:20] yes on some item.
[3:03:21] See I don't like that road
[3:03:22] Bridge Street going over
[3:03:26] the Parkland.
[3:03:27] That's my first No, no.
[3:03:28] So Audra said some very good
[3:03:32] points and so I only have a
[3:03:32] minute so I'll leave this up to
[3:03:33] you.
[3:03:38] I hope you agree to speak a
[3:03:39] little bit on it.
[3:03:39] Thank you for that concluding
[3:03:40] remark Going to those
[3:03:40] participating remotely I'm
[3:03:43] sorry the five minute timer if
[3:03:44] Blair McQueen please on mute.
[3:03:44] >> All right.
[3:03:48] Thank you.
[3:03:49] >> Where we going?
[3:03:49] Yeah.
[3:03:50] Good public comment previously
[3:03:54] thank you as this project was
[3:03:55] debated about JULY 6th I
[3:03:55] thought it was the intention to
[3:04:00] be slowly working and
[3:04:01] developing ideas.
[3:04:01] I don't I didn't feel it was
[3:04:06] like going into things full
[3:04:07] bore but just a continued
[3:04:11] development and understanding
[3:04:12] and a process of learning
[3:04:13] rather than everything is going
[3:04:13] to be now completed And this is
[3:04:17] what we're doing.
[3:04:18] There has to be a lot more give
[3:04:19] and take and dialog to figure
[3:04:19] things out with this item it
[3:04:23] seems like and that was what
[3:04:23] was presented at JULY 6th and I
[3:04:24] wish that more responsible
[3:04:29] position was more talked about.
[3:04:29] That's how we talk about this
[3:04:30] project and it was mentioned by
[3:04:35] the previous public speakers.
[3:04:35] A lot of additional things need
[3:04:36] to be addressed.
[3:04:36] You're being sued because
[3:04:37] things aren't being better
[3:04:41] addressed.
[3:04:42] Just please are you going slow
[3:04:42] with this project or not
[3:04:46] Quickly I think that's an
[3:04:46] important first step.
[3:04:47] >> Thank you.
[3:04:47] Thank you Natalie If you can
[3:04:51] please unmute.
[3:04:52] Hi Natalie.
[3:04:53] I didn't get to make it to
[3:04:57] the JULY sixth meeting so
[3:04:58] trying to be caught up on this
[3:04:59] information for my
[3:05:03] understanding this is a company
[3:05:04] that's based out of Japan.
[3:05:05] If that is true, why are we
[3:05:10] winning Japanese?
[3:05:11] Japan come in right.
[3:05:15] That's a lot of makers.
[3:05:16] Second of all for my
[3:05:17] understanding it's going to go
[3:05:21] over some crummy historical
[3:05:21] property.
[3:05:22] I'm not sure if they were
[3:05:27] contacted what they're their
[3:05:27] opinion was about it.
[3:05:28] I couldn't find that
[3:05:32] information and all
[3:05:33] the research that I do and it
[3:05:38] is hard to understand
[3:05:39] the language that's being used
[3:05:44] when it feels are happening So
[3:05:45] I'll save the rest for public
[3:05:45] comment.
[3:05:45] Thank you.
[3:05:46] Thank you Tony.
[3:05:53] If you can please unmute.
[3:05:59] Yes, I just wanted to support
[3:06:00] some of the comments that were
[3:06:01] sent earlier and I wanted to
[3:06:05] thank Vivian Moreno for
[3:06:06] recusing herself.
[3:06:06] She did so a couple of weeks
[3:06:11] ago as well for another issue
[3:06:12] and I thought it's a very
[3:06:13] classy, respectable move.
[3:06:17] So I very much appreciate that
[3:06:18] I'm going to register a neutral
[3:06:23] position on this item just
[3:06:23] because I don't know enough
[3:06:24] about it to have a strong
[3:06:25] opinion one way or the other.
[3:06:29] Thank you.
[3:06:29] >> Thank you.
[3:06:30] That does conclude public
[3:06:30] comment on this item.
[3:06:31] All right.
[3:06:35] Thank you city clerks.
[3:06:36] I'll turn over to my colleagues
[3:06:41] to have any questions, comments
[3:06:41] and entertain a motion.
[3:06:42] I will start with Councilmember
[3:06:46] Taylor regarding a motion by
[3:06:47] COUNCILMAN Real Rivera to move
[3:06:51] the staff recommendation I can
[3:06:52] I get a second and
[3:06:58] Councilmember Whipper All
[3:06:58] right.
[3:06:59] >> Okay.
[3:06:59] Anybody else?
[3:07:00] No lights We do have a motion
[3:07:04] by Councilmember Eli Rivera and
[3:07:05] a second by Councilmember
[3:07:06] Lippert to move a staff
[3:07:06] recommendation.
[3:07:07] Clerk Please call the roll.
[3:07:07] I'm sorry The voting system
[3:07:23] Please cast your vote That
[3:07:24] passes 5 to 2 with
[3:07:25] Councilmember Moreno recusing
[3:07:30] and Councilmember Campbell
[3:07:30] absent.
[3:07:31] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[3:07:31] All right.
[3:07:32] Thank you And thank you to
[3:07:33] staff for making yourself
[3:07:36] available for this hearing on
[3:07:37] consent item.
[3:07:40] So with that the clerk please
[3:07:41] introduce item 331 Item 331 is
[3:07:42] the performance audit of City
[3:07:46] of the city's management of its
[3:07:47] lease golf property portfolio.
[3:07:48] This is an informational item
[3:07:51] It will be two minutes per
[3:07:52] person for comment on this item
[3:07:52] If you are here please be sure
[3:07:53] to submit your speakers up to
[3:07:57] the front of the room or if
[3:07:58] you're participating remotely
[3:07:58] now's the time to raise your
[3:07:59] hand by pressing Star nine or
[3:08:00] the raise your hand icon.
[3:08:03] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[3:08:03] right.
[3:08:04] Thank you for using the item I
[3:08:08] see staff of settling in so if
[3:08:09] you could when you're ready
[3:08:09] introduce yourselves for
[3:08:10] the record and let us know how
[3:08:11] much time you need for your
[3:08:15] presentation.
[3:08:16] Good afternoon.
[3:08:16] Council PRESIDENT The other
[3:08:17] council members Andino City
[3:08:21] Auditor And we're here to
[3:08:21] present our performance audit
[3:08:22] of the city's lease to golf
[3:08:26] property portfolio and can we
[3:08:27] have about 12 minutes please?
[3:08:27] All right.
[3:08:28] Start when you're ready.
[3:08:28] Thank you.
[3:08:31] As we get started, I want to
[3:08:32] thank the Economic Development
[3:08:33] Department, the Parks and
[3:08:33] Recreation department golf
[3:08:38] division and the Office of
[3:08:39] the City Treasurer for all
[3:08:39] the assistance and perspective
[3:08:40] they provided our team on this
[3:08:44] audit.
[3:08:45] First to give you an overview
[3:08:45] of our presentation today our
[3:08:46] audit had two findings.
[3:08:50] Number one the city should
[3:08:51] collect and report performance
[3:08:51] data and lease information for
[3:08:55] its leased golf courses to
[3:08:56] assess lessee performance and
[3:08:56] maximize city revenue and
[3:08:57] public benefit.
[3:09:02] For example, we found a lease
[3:09:03] contained an opportunity to
[3:09:04] increase revenue from a country
[3:09:08] club The city owns and has
[3:09:08] taken action on this which
[3:09:09] we'll discuss later in our
[3:09:09] presentation.
[3:09:14] And number two, a lack of
[3:09:15] regular site inspections and
[3:09:16] ongoing holdovers.
[3:09:19] But this put the city's leased
[3:09:20] golf course properties at risk
[3:09:20] of property deterioration,
[3:09:21] reduced public benefit and lost
[3:09:26] financial value.
[3:09:26] We made seven recommendations
[3:09:27] all of which Eadie agreed to
[3:09:32] implement and as noted in
[3:09:33] the management response epd
[3:09:34] stated they recognize the value
[3:09:34] in enhancing performance
[3:09:38] monitoring, reporting and
[3:09:38] inspections of golf course
[3:09:39] properties and has also has
[3:09:43] already taken several steps
[3:09:44] towards implementing
[3:09:45] the recommendations and will
[3:09:45] highlight the steps taken in
[3:09:50] the presentation as well.
[3:09:51] With me here today is is
[3:09:52] Assistant City Auditor Matt
[3:09:56] Helm and performance under
[3:09:56] Kayla Edwards also want to
[3:09:57] recognize principal performance
[3:09:58] outdoor Megan Jaffer who is
[3:10:01] the manager on this project but
[3:10:02] could not be here today So I'll
[3:10:03] turn it over to Matt and Kayla
[3:10:04] to go over the details of what
[3:10:07] we found and recommended as
[3:10:08] well as the steps taken since
[3:10:08] the audit.
[3:10:08] >> Great.
[3:10:09] Thanks and good afternoon.
[3:10:13] Council PRESIDENT Members of
[3:10:14] Council I'm Matthew Home
[3:10:14] Assistant City Auditor.
[3:10:15] Just to add to things I did
[3:10:16] want to give a special
[3:10:19] recognition to John Howard and
[3:10:20] his team in the Parks and Rec
[3:10:20] Golf division.
[3:10:25] We do have golf experts in
[3:10:25] the city.
[3:10:26] John is one of them.
[3:10:27] He kind of gave us the golf
[3:10:31] course Management for Dummies
[3:10:31] tutorial and his assistance was
[3:10:32] really valuable throughout.
[3:10:33] So the reason I bring that up
[3:10:37] is because leveraging our
[3:10:38] in-house expertise is sort of
[3:10:38] part and parcel of some of
[3:10:39] the findings and
[3:10:39] recommendations that you'll
[3:10:43] hear in just a moment here.
[3:10:44] So largely due to the amount of
[3:10:44] revenue public interface and
[3:10:49] the overall value at risk given
[3:10:50] the property sizes throughout
[3:10:51] the city.
[3:10:51] Golf routinely scores high on
[3:10:55] our annual risk assessment this
[3:10:55] year so sorry.
[3:10:56] We previously conducted an
[3:10:57] audit of the city operated golf
[3:11:02] courses in 2015.
[3:11:02] I'm pleased to note that
[3:11:03] the Golf division has
[3:11:03] implemented all of those
[3:11:04] recommendations.
[3:11:07] But for this particular audit
[3:11:08] we focus on the other a
[3:11:09] substantial portion of
[3:11:09] the city's golf portfolio
[3:11:10] specifically those courses
[3:11:14] owned by the city but operated
[3:11:14] by the city golf course leases
[3:11:19] bring in a significant amount
[3:11:20] of revenue for the city
[3:11:20] approximately 3.7 million in
[3:11:26] 2020 for which are which is
[3:11:26] the end of our school period.
[3:11:27] And generally our objective was
[3:11:28] to ensure that the city is
[3:11:31] maximizing the value and
[3:11:32] the public benefit of its
[3:11:33] leased golf property portfolio.
[3:11:37] The specific parts of
[3:11:38] the objectives are list on that
[3:11:39] slide but I won't read those
[3:11:43] through for you just by way of
[3:11:44] background and to provide some
[3:11:44] context on there's a lot on
[3:11:45] the slide but I'll try to
[3:11:45] summarize.
[3:11:49] So the city owns 11 golf
[3:11:49] courses, right?
[3:11:50] Three are the ones you know of
[3:11:53] probably Torrey Pines mission
[3:11:54] Bay and Balboa Park and those
[3:11:55] are like as I said previously
[3:11:56] operated by the Parks and
[3:11:59] Recreation Department by
[3:12:00] the Golf division.
[3:12:00] Revenues from these courses go
[3:12:01] to the Golf Enterprise Fund
[3:12:06] which supports their operations
[3:12:06] and the city knows well that
[3:12:07] these revenues have proved
[3:12:12] valuable in our budget process
[3:12:13] this year over the remaining
[3:12:13] eight courses or at least by or
[3:12:14] at least a third party
[3:12:14] operators.
[3:12:18] So four courses are owned by
[3:12:19] the Public utilities
[3:12:19] department.
[3:12:20] These revenues go to the water
[3:12:24] fund helping offset repair
[3:12:25] water bills for example And
[3:12:29] calendar year 24 of the lease
[3:12:30] courses generated 2.1 million
[3:12:31] for the water fund.
[3:12:31] Four of the other courses are
[3:12:35] owned by the parks and recs
[3:12:36] department and those revenues
[3:12:37] go to the city's general fund
[3:12:37] in calendar 24 of these courses
[3:12:42] generated about 1.6 million for
[3:12:42] the city's general fund In
[3:12:43] general Eadie is responsible
[3:12:47] for managing the golf course
[3:12:48] the least golf course
[3:12:48] portfolio.
[3:12:53] So although our audit focused
[3:12:54] on the city's leased golf
[3:12:55] courses as I said earlier, we
[3:13:00] did rely on the city operated
[3:13:00] courses as points of comparison
[3:13:01] and solicited their expertise
[3:13:02] throughout the engagement.
[3:13:05] So let me get into the findings
[3:13:06] here and finding one.
[3:13:07] We found that the city's golf
[3:13:07] courses are valuable properties
[3:13:10] that bring in over 3.3 million
[3:13:11] a year.
[3:13:11] However, the lease agreements
[3:13:16] do not include the standard
[3:13:17] performance reporting
[3:13:17] requirements and the city does
[3:13:18] not require does not report
[3:13:19] lease terms or performance of
[3:13:22] the leased golf courses
[3:13:23] publicly through any mechanism
[3:13:23] such as the real estate
[3:13:28] portfolio management plan or
[3:13:29] the golf business plan update.
[3:13:30] So it's not consolidated in one
[3:13:30] place.
[3:13:34] This means that city management
[3:13:34] ,the city council and
[3:13:35] the public aren't aware of how
[3:13:36] the city's leased golf courses
[3:13:40] are performing and whether
[3:13:40] there are opportunities to
[3:13:41] increase revenue, for example,
[3:13:46] or increase the public benefit.
[3:13:47] And in fact some stakeholders
[3:13:48] MAY not even be aware that we
[3:13:48] own a live of courses I didn't
[3:13:52] prior to starting this
[3:13:52] engagement and just by way of
[3:13:53] benchmarking we really did do
[3:13:58] our level best to try to focus
[3:13:58] apples to apples because
[3:13:59] there's a lot out there in
[3:14:00] the space But the what shown on
[3:14:00] the slide we think is a
[3:14:03] reasonable comparison.
[3:14:04] Other jurisdictions golf
[3:14:04] courses have performance
[3:14:05] reporting requirements and
[3:14:09] the golf division our own golf
[3:14:10] division collects and publicly
[3:14:11] reports performance on city
[3:14:11] operated golf courses.
[3:14:16] Public reporting increases
[3:14:17] transparency and accountability
[3:14:17] Help can help drive
[3:14:18] improvements.
[3:14:21] This approach has worked well
[3:14:22] for city operated courses.
[3:14:23] For example, at the time of our
[3:14:23] previous audit of the city
[3:14:28] system, Torrey Pines was
[3:14:28] subsidizing the other two
[3:14:29] course systems.
[3:14:30] But that situation has changed.
[3:14:30] Those courses are self
[3:14:34] sustaining and a lot of that
[3:14:35] has to do with the strategic
[3:14:35] management the golf division
[3:14:39] has executed and that is that
[3:14:40] effort has been informed by
[3:14:41] various performance analytics.
[3:14:45] So performance and lease term
[3:14:46] reporting is essential for
[3:14:46] spotting trends and revenue
[3:14:47] opportunities as shown in
[3:14:52] the graphic on the slide we
[3:14:52] found that the financial return
[3:14:53] to the city very significantly
[3:14:53] across Les's.
[3:14:58] There's lots of reasons for
[3:14:58] that.
[3:14:59] Those leases were negotiated at
[3:14:59] different points in time.
[3:15:00] They have different provisions
[3:15:04] in that in and of itself makes
[3:15:04] sense.
[3:15:05] However higher revenues for
[3:15:06] lessees don't always mean
[3:15:09] higher returns for the city and
[3:15:10] rent The percentage of total
[3:15:11] revenue that lessees paid to
[3:15:14] the city varies widely ranging
[3:15:15] from 1% to 25%.
[3:15:15] That would be a percentage of
[3:15:16] that operator's revenues right
[3:15:22] for that property.
[3:15:22] On the next slide we'll show
[3:15:23] you some examples of how those
[3:15:24] data can benefit the management
[3:15:26] of this valuable portfolio So
[3:15:27] performance reporting can help
[3:15:32] the city identify and quickly
[3:15:33] pursue opportunities to
[3:15:34] increase city share of revenue
[3:15:34] and adjust lease terms when
[3:15:38] it's appropriate to do so which
[3:15:39] is shown on this slide.
[3:15:40] So in the report we highlighted
[3:15:44] the Fairbanks Ranch Country
[3:15:45] Club which earns about 17 at
[3:15:46] the time of the audit earned
[3:15:49] about 17 million in revenue
[3:15:50] about 8 million in expenses
[3:15:54] annually but pays the city
[3:15:54] 864,000 rent.
[3:15:55] This is largely due to that to
[3:15:59] the terms of the lease that
[3:16:00] were amended in 2016 for
[3:16:01] Fairbanks and it's structured
[3:16:04] in a way that results in
[3:16:05] the operator only paying 5% of
[3:16:05] its gross revenues as shown on
[3:16:06] the slide.
[3:16:10] Another lease course by way of
[3:16:11] comparison is mission trails
[3:16:11] that make significantly less
[3:16:12] than overall revenue pays more
[3:16:16] in rent and about 22% of its
[3:16:17] gross revenue.
[3:16:21] So that's 22% versus the 5% for
[3:16:22] the one shown on the slide In
[3:16:27] reviewing the Fairbanks lease
[3:16:28] at the time of this audit we
[3:16:28] did note there was a provision
[3:16:29] in the lease that the city
[3:16:34] could notify the operator of an
[3:16:34] intent to reappraise and
[3:16:35] provided a potential for them
[3:16:35] to adjust the ramp.
[3:16:40] We discussed that with Ed and
[3:16:41] they did take action on that.
[3:16:41] So as noted in the report we
[3:16:46] indicated that if
[3:16:47] the percentage rents were set
[3:16:47] at 20% which again is similar
[3:16:48] to what is paid in mission
[3:16:52] trails and for example
[3:16:53] technology we estimate the city
[3:16:56] could gain approximately 2.5
[3:16:57] million more for the general
[3:16:58] fund annually.
[3:16:58] There was a hypothetical at
[3:16:59] the time based on what
[3:17:02] the rates that that the other
[3:17:03] courses were paying.
[3:17:03] So we'll discuss that a little
[3:17:04] bit more.
[3:17:05] Kelly can go to the next slide.
[3:17:09] So performance reporting can
[3:17:09] also help identify
[3:17:10] under-performance and improve
[3:17:10] transparency.
[3:17:11] So again thanks to John Howard
[3:17:14] and his team for kind of
[3:17:15] explaining how certain
[3:17:16] performance indicators can help
[3:17:20] assess these types of things.
[3:17:21] On this slide you see for
[3:17:22] example Galena Park and
[3:17:22] Presidio Hills are similar in
[3:17:26] size but cleaner had three
[3:17:27] times the rounds played in
[3:17:27] 2025.
[3:17:28] We don't make any judgment.
[3:17:32] There could be reasons for that
[3:17:33] but it's the type of data that
[3:17:33] would help inform at least a
[3:17:34] line of inquiry into why that
[3:17:38] might be The rounds it rounds
[3:17:39] data where consistently
[3:17:40] reported the city could
[3:17:40] identify underperforming
[3:17:41] courses and inquire to
[3:17:44] determine potential underlying
[3:17:45] classes causes.
[3:17:50] Sorry So why are performance
[3:17:50] measures important?
[3:17:51] It's not just data for data
[3:17:51] sake.
[3:17:52] I know you know auditors like
[3:17:56] that kind of stuff but in in
[3:17:57] the case of golf it really does
[3:17:57] matter.
[3:17:58] So collecting and analyzing
[3:17:58] performance information could
[3:18:02] also be used by city management
[3:18:03] and policymakers to determine
[3:18:03] the highest and best use of
[3:18:07] these golf properties.
[3:18:08] Assess whether the public is
[3:18:08] receiving fair value and verify
[3:18:09] the accuracy of revenues
[3:18:14] reported by lessees as shown on
[3:18:14] the exhibit.
[3:18:15] On this slide we found that
[3:18:19] city revenue per acre varies
[3:18:19] widely across city operated and
[3:18:20] lessee operated golf courses
[3:18:21] for its three city operated
[3:18:26] courses As the ones you all
[3:18:27] know at Mission Bay Torrey
[3:18:28] Pines Balboa City received an
[3:18:30] average of 9097 per acre By
[3:18:31] comparison its eight least
[3:18:36] courses average revenue of
[3:18:36] about 4736 Without performance
[3:18:41] reporting the public and
[3:18:42] policymakers do not have
[3:18:42] information about what drives
[3:18:43] these differences whether it's
[3:18:44] lease terms, course conditions
[3:18:48] or other operator performance.
[3:18:49] The next slide Kenneth.
[3:18:50] So we made it through this
[3:18:54] finding finding one We made six
[3:18:55] recommendations To Ed's credit
[3:18:59] they they agreed and it was
[3:19:00] the type of agreement where
[3:19:01] they didn't write agree and
[3:19:01] then write, you know, an
[3:19:02] explanation about why they
[3:19:05] actually disagreed.
[3:19:06] They actually wrote a good
[3:19:07] response to all of these.
[3:19:07] We recommended that Eadie
[3:19:08] should work with the golf
[3:19:11] division to ensure new leases
[3:19:12] include performance reporting
[3:19:13] requirements and ebd has
[3:19:17] indicated to us that this
[3:19:18] included performance
[3:19:19] requirements in its new golf
[3:19:19] course lease agreements that
[3:19:23] are currently under
[3:19:23] negotiation.
[3:19:24] I know we haven't verified this
[3:19:25] this would be part of our
[3:19:25] normal recommendation follow up
[3:19:28] so we will follow up per our
[3:19:29] normal process.
[3:19:30] We also recommended that
[3:19:30] the golf division and eads
[3:19:34] should report leased golf
[3:19:34] performance information in
[3:19:35] the annual golf business plan
[3:19:36] update That's an existing
[3:19:40] report that covers the cities
[3:19:40] and the city operated courses.
[3:19:41] Our recommendation was is that
[3:19:45] we make everything together and
[3:19:46] include all of the golf golf
[3:19:46] courses in there for all
[3:19:50] the comparative reasons that I
[3:19:51] just previously indicated and
[3:19:51] that a cost reimbursement
[3:19:52] mechanism for the golf fund
[3:19:56] should be established for work
[3:19:56] performed for the least
[3:19:57] courses.
[3:19:57] So to the extent that they're
[3:20:01] utilizing John in his team
[3:20:02] there should be some mechanism
[3:20:02] for them to be compensated for
[3:20:03] that But that's not currently
[3:20:06] part of their portfolio.
[3:20:07] Our understanding is that
[3:20:08] the mechanism for so doing is
[3:20:12] in process and as I said we
[3:20:13] will verify that as part of our
[3:20:16] normal process.
[3:20:17] Just to continue on here we
[3:20:18] also recommended that edc
[3:20:21] conduct an appraisal and of
[3:20:22] the Fairbanks Ranch Country
[3:20:22] Club specifically and adjust
[3:20:27] the rent as appropriate and as
[3:20:28] allowed by the 2016 lease Since
[3:20:28] the time of the audit is
[3:20:32] conducted in appraisal and
[3:20:33] adjusted percentage rents,
[3:20:33] however the estimated
[3:20:37] the estimated percentage rent
[3:20:38] adjustment that will result in
[3:20:42] the lessee paying about 7%
[3:20:42] above.
[3:20:43] So it's currently five so we'll
[3:20:46] be paying 7% Now that's
[3:20:47] the again not included in
[3:20:47] the report but that's
[3:20:52] information that we have most
[3:20:52] currently.
[3:20:53] i'll now turn it over to
[3:20:53] the present.
[3:20:56] I apologize We're over on time
[3:20:57] a little bit but I'll now turn
[3:20:57] over to Kayla to wrap this up
[3:20:58] and be briefer than I was.
[3:21:02] >> Thanks.
[3:21:02] Thanks Matt.
[3:21:03] For a second finding we found
[3:21:07] that it has a goal to inspect
[3:21:08] all properties in the city's
[3:21:08] real estate portfolio annually
[3:21:12] however inspects the city's
[3:21:12] eight leased golf course
[3:21:13] properties at an average
[3:21:15] interval of 3.4 years.
[3:21:16] >> The value of golf courses
[3:21:21] degrades rapidly relative to
[3:21:21] other property types.
[3:21:22] If they're not properly
[3:21:22] maintained, poor maintenance
[3:21:26] can lead to higher repair
[3:21:26] costs, weaken the city's
[3:21:27] position in lease negotiations
[3:21:31] and reduce both playability and
[3:21:31] revenue Potential consistent
[3:21:32] inspections help ensure
[3:21:36] operators continue investing in
[3:21:36] and maintaining the courses
[3:21:37] including when leases are in
[3:21:41] hold over.
[3:21:42] It uses a general inspection
[3:21:42] form for all city leased
[3:21:45] properties including its golf
[3:21:46] courses.
[3:21:46] However, working with the Golf
[3:21:47] division on inspections will
[3:21:49] help ensure golf specific
[3:21:50] property conditions are
[3:21:55] properly assessed.
[3:21:56] >> At the time of the audit
[3:21:57] the city had four golf course
[3:22:00] leases in holdover These leases
[3:22:00] are listed here on this slide
[3:22:01] with notably one being in
[3:22:04] Boulder where for 11 years one
[3:22:04] of our recommendation is to
[3:22:05] report on the lease terms
[3:22:09] specifically lease expiration
[3:22:09] dates So this will provide more
[3:22:13] visibility into when leases are
[3:22:14] expiring.
[3:22:15] Renewing leases before they
[3:22:18] expire allows the city to
[3:22:19] adjust the rent to receive
[3:22:24] current fair market value.
[3:22:25] >> We made one recommendation
[3:22:26] in findings You and edt should
[3:22:28] work with the golf division to
[3:22:29] inspect the city's leased golf
[3:22:30] course properties at least
[3:22:33] annually and report on their
[3:22:34] conditions in the annual golf
[3:22:35] business plan update Eddy is
[3:22:38] working with the Golf division
[3:22:38] to fully implement this
[3:22:42] recommendation Management
[3:22:43] agreed to implement all seven
[3:22:43] of our recommendations and with
[3:22:44] that this concludes our
[3:22:47] presentation of this
[3:22:48] informational item and we are
[3:22:48] available for any questions you
[3:22:49] MAY have.
[3:22:52] >> All right.
[3:22:52] Thank you for the work and
[3:22:53] thank you for the presentation
[3:22:54] this afternoon with that clerk
[3:22:54] Please proceed with public
[3:22:57] comment.
[3:22:57] Thank you.
[3:22:58] Council PRESIDENT Allegedly.
[3:22:59] Audrey, if you can please come
[3:23:02] up to the microphone after that
[3:23:03] will be Joyce Senator and then
[3:23:04] Laurie Saldana if you can
[3:23:05] please come up to the front row
[3:23:05] .
[3:23:10] You'll have two minutes.
[3:23:11] I'm going to share something
[3:23:11] real quick and I don't care if
[3:23:14] you start me but I just was
[3:23:15] giving my lunch to a homeless
[3:23:16] man on the way back and he gave
[3:23:19] me this necklace and I thought
[3:23:20] it was really special because I
[3:23:23] want him to pick it And he did
[3:23:24] .
[3:23:25] The one I picked wasn't like
[3:23:25] this but I just thought, you
[3:23:29] know, always makes a difference
[3:23:30] when you do something good
[3:23:30] because I was still hungry but
[3:23:33] I wanted him to eat because I
[3:23:34] can still get food Anyway, this
[3:23:35] is interesting because it's
[3:23:38] like you guys hate Trump.
[3:23:39] His name was Ricardo by
[3:23:40] the way, which is Richard was
[3:23:40] great.
[3:23:43] He's just over by the trolley.
[3:23:48] But this is interesting because
[3:23:48] it's like we are talking about
[3:23:49] No, I just lost my train of
[3:23:55] thought Oh my gosh The with
[3:23:55] the golf funds it's like you
[3:23:56] guys are sitting here and
[3:23:57] saying that you don't like
[3:23:59] Trump.
[3:24:00] I'm wondering if you're I mean
[3:24:01] he uses these golf courses So
[3:24:01] are you guys going to stop him
[3:24:05] from doing that at some point?
[3:24:05] No, because you want his money,
[3:24:06] right?
[3:24:09] I know it's good And I feel
[3:24:10] like if you guys can't I mean
[3:24:14] poor maintenance it's like
[3:24:14] these are opportunities to make
[3:24:15] money off of people who and
[3:24:18] this is hard because I don't
[3:24:19] really like you guys making
[3:24:19] money because I can't trust you
[3:24:22] when you make the money.
[3:24:23] So it's like I don't know that
[3:24:24] I want to give you ideas on how
[3:24:25] to make it because you're not
[3:24:28] good stewards of it And that's
[3:24:32] the unfortunate thing is like
[3:24:33] you know the way that you guys
[3:24:33] do business isn't what's
[3:24:37] beneficial for the people but
[3:24:38] it's more what's beneficial for
[3:24:42] the pockets of others And I
[3:24:43] just feel like when you guys
[3:24:44] could make money that would
[3:24:47] benefit us that would you know
[3:24:48] you that you could spend on
[3:24:49] things that we're going to you
[3:24:52] know, improve our communities
[3:24:56] then it's like absolutely But
[3:24:57] again like I feel like I just
[3:24:58] don't even want to tell you how
[3:24:58] to make more money with this
[3:25:02] because I just can't trust you
[3:25:02] with it And that's unfortunate.
[3:25:06] I wish you guys were, you know,
[3:25:06] doing what you were there to do
[3:25:11] and not the opposite.
[3:25:12] >> But this is an inverted
[3:25:12] world and we're in scenes
[3:25:13] playground so hey, that's what
[3:25:16] you get an incentive.
[3:25:17] Joyce Anybody if you can please
[3:25:20] come forward.
[3:25:21] Thank you, Audra It was a
[3:25:25] beautiful example.
[3:25:26] We needed to hear that.
[3:25:30] You know, folks, I really work
[3:25:35] hard for us these kind of items
[3:25:40] make We want to go home, pack
[3:25:41] up a picnic lunch, go have a
[3:25:43] picnic in a park and count
[3:25:47] butterflies.
[3:25:48] These kind of reports should
[3:25:52] not be heard ever.
[3:25:59] Why haven't we cleaned this up
[3:25:59] ?
[3:26:04] Why does this continue to come
[3:26:05] out from our beautiful other
[3:26:05] department?
[3:26:09] I've been doing this for years.
[3:26:10] >> You asked former Chair
[3:26:14] Falconer.
[3:26:19] I cannot believe that we
[3:26:24] continue Fairbanks example Is
[3:26:24] that shocking or what?
[3:26:29] >> Joy, I'm going to pause you.
[3:26:30] We're going to save your time
[3:26:31] and give you a chance to start
[3:26:31] over.
[3:26:33] We've lost audio so we have to
[3:26:34] pause the meeting until we can
[3:26:38] fix the city tv So sorry you're
[3:26:39] right in the middle but we're
[3:26:40] required to kind of interrupt
[3:26:40] the meeting.
[3:26:43] >> What you're saying I have to
[3:26:44] completely stop.
[3:26:44] >> Completely stop.
[3:26:49] Look at the screen.
[3:26:49] >> We've lost the doors empty.
[3:26:52] I did it online.
[3:26:53] >> So the zoom feed is We will
[3:26:54] start your clock.
[3:26:54] You'll have a chance to start
[3:26:58] from the beginning But we're
[3:26:59] pausing the meeting until we
[3:27:02] can get it fixed.
[3:27:03] You know my hearing goes in and
[3:27:03] out some time.
[3:27:04] Do you want me to continue now
[3:27:07] You have to stop and we'll let
[3:27:08] you know because you want me to
[3:27:08] sit.
[3:27:29] Yeah, but bigger idea similar
[3:27:34] to that.
[3:28:46] No, no, no, no, no
[3:28:46] .
[3:28:55] And thank you for your
[3:28:55] patience.
[3:28:59] We are back online.
[3:28:59] >> Okay.
[3:29:04] We are ready for you, Joy.
[3:29:05] Yeah, we'll start We'll give
[3:29:12] you the full two minutes That
[3:29:17] didn't feel good.
[3:29:17] Okay.
[3:29:22] I have no idea where I was.
[3:29:23] But anyway, I know I started
[3:29:24] with the butterflies and
[3:29:27] the picnic and I'm still there.
[3:29:28] Maybe that's what I'll do
[3:29:36] tomorrow.
[3:29:37] >> I need to talk with Panda
[3:29:38] Bear.
[3:29:41] What?
[3:29:42] And I need to find out what's
[3:29:42] happening.
[3:29:43] What The key performance
[3:29:46] indicators.
[3:29:47] They're not happening.
[3:29:47] I'm going to have order
[3:29:48] droughts Going to be nice
[3:29:52] enough to come up.
[3:29:52] >> We're still here.
[3:29:53] So they're still fixing it,
[3:29:53] huh?
[3:29:55] They're still fixing it.
[3:29:56] I thought you told me to come
[3:29:57] up with They did, but it's
[3:29:57] okay.
[3:29:59] Let's go.
[3:30:00] >> So let her know that we're
[3:30:01] talking about Right.
[3:30:04] We're breaking.
[3:30:05] No, I know, darling.
[3:30:05] I know.
[3:30:05] Let's go.
[3:30:08] You know You know what?
[3:30:09] And then you start over.
[3:30:10] No, you just stay right here.
[3:30:10] Good.
[3:30:10] Okay.
[3:30:15] Automakers you notice about
[3:30:15] the got the audit and the golf
[3:30:16] course These you're not
[3:30:18] recording it but you people do
[3:30:19] have ears and you can listen to
[3:30:20] us So I know what's happening
[3:30:24] But I want you to know that
[3:30:25] this is order right here So I'm
[3:30:26] sorry I missed and yada because
[3:30:28] of the Brown Act and the way it
[3:30:29] is the council cannot proceed
[3:30:30] with the meeting If the Zoom is
[3:30:32] not in place due to sb 707
[3:30:33] which is why they need to pause
[3:30:37] people when the people at home
[3:30:38] need to hear you as well until
[3:30:42] they go back online because
[3:30:43] otherwise they can't hear it so
[3:30:44] they'll let us know.
[3:30:48] Yeah it went out again can
[3:30:49] still see like you can see that
[3:30:53] they Yeah I can hear me get
[3:30:53] the money or they can but they
[3:30:56] can't proceed because open to
[3:31:10] the public and right now get
[3:31:39] these Are you still on Twitter
[3:31:43] I kicked everyone out right
[3:31:44] they try going back in I want
[3:31:57] to become the host Yeah And it
[3:32:02] was on such a roll.
[3:32:10] Yeah yeah, yeah And time I'm
[3:32:11] okay.
[3:32:25] We Oh yeah I'm on We can walk
[3:32:53] up and know if city tv can call
[3:32:57] me confirm that they're getting
[3:33:11] video from the chambers Okay
[3:35:11] okay
[3:35:22] .
[3:35:23] Thank you for your patience
[3:35:23] Again the meeting has been
[3:35:27] restored.
[3:35:28] All right.
[3:35:29] For those listening in, we did
[3:35:31] lose the Zoom connection.
[3:35:32] We did pause the meeting once
[3:35:37] we learned of that and now
[3:35:37] we're going to resume
[3:35:41] the meeting So Audra, you think
[3:35:55] she's ready to okay.
[3:36:00] >> So butterflies and picnics
[3:36:01] are looking much better as
[3:36:05] the moment goes on.
[3:36:06] Just want to let you know that
[3:36:13] So this is stuck at two or
[3:36:13] what's going on here?
[3:36:14] Let it be.
[3:36:19] Thank you.
[3:36:19] So all right.
[3:36:23] I said the butterfly thing
[3:36:28] Panda bear Panda bear Panda
[3:36:33] performance and Alex know that
[3:36:34] I love them and that I respect
[3:36:38] them and that their work is
[3:36:42] enormously important And I.
[3:36:43] I have still have a love affair
[3:36:47] with get it done yet something
[3:36:48] is happening that's not good
[3:36:53] with the KPIs and I don't think
[3:36:58] he used kpi when the audit
[3:36:58] report was done I think he use
[3:37:04] performance something or other
[3:37:05] .
[3:37:06] I don't think he even said
[3:37:06] performance indicators But you
[3:37:10] said performance in that as
[3:37:11] everyone knows after what you
[3:37:14] just said the performance was
[3:37:15] ugly and we just swept under
[3:37:19] the carpet and let it happen.
[3:37:20] So this seems to be a
[3:37:24] reoccurring thing that happens
[3:37:25] at city council where we I
[3:37:29] don't know if we sweep it under
[3:37:29] the carpet, maybe we don't lift
[3:37:33] the carpet up and look and see
[3:37:34] what's there.
[3:37:34] i don't think we're the ones
[3:37:38] that sweep it but it's there.
[3:37:42] It's been carried on or what So
[3:37:43] thank you all That department I
[3:37:47] think what you did is fabulous
[3:37:47] .
[3:37:48] What you continue to do is
[3:37:48] fabulous.
[3:37:52] I wish you could overlay
[3:37:57] the basic process that you do
[3:37:58] for us and tell us what really
[3:38:02] is happening that would help us
[3:38:03] straighten out the structural
[3:38:07] budget deficit and get a handle
[3:38:08] on that And that would keep us
[3:38:12] from going to these dark places
[3:38:12] and seeing things that are
[3:38:13] really happening that hurt our
[3:38:14] our citizens.
[3:38:24] >> Thank you very much.
[3:38:25] Peggy Walker, can you hear me?
[3:38:30] Can you unmute Oh wait.
[3:38:33] Oh, Lori Saldana my apologies.
[3:38:42] No, no, no.
[3:38:43] This reminds me of the saying
[3:38:47] It is a truth universally
[3:38:48] acknowledged that a city in
[3:38:48] possession of a good climate
[3:38:52] and a tourism based economy is
[3:38:52] in need of golf courses.
[3:38:56] Everyone knows that.
[3:38:57] And so the fact that we are
[3:39:01] subsidizing the wealthiest
[3:39:02] players of golf in the city of
[3:39:06] San Diego is just shocking.
[3:39:07] I'm shocked.
[3:39:08] How many golf courses do we
[3:39:11] have south of the 94 or
[3:39:11] the communities in the south
[3:39:15] area of San Diego?
[3:39:16] I'm just curious how many golf
[3:39:19] courses do we have for
[3:39:20] the communities that we
[3:39:20] continue to refer to as
[3:39:24] under-resourced?
[3:39:25] And here we have the most
[3:39:26] resourced community with
[3:39:29] the highest per capita income
[3:39:30] per zip code I think in
[3:39:32] the country paying the least to
[3:39:37] golf.
[3:39:38] Thank you for doing this
[3:39:38] report.
[3:39:42] You cannot improve I say this
[3:39:43] so often to this council you
[3:39:43] cannot improve what you don't
[3:39:46] measure.
[3:39:47] We are not measuring now we
[3:39:48] will begin to measure golf
[3:39:52] courses and how much we're
[3:39:52] generating in revenue to
[3:39:53] the city of San Diego.
[3:39:57] So congratulations on achieving
[3:39:57] that.
[3:39:58] I think we need to look even
[3:40:01] though I mentioned we have a
[3:40:02] good climate and a tourism
[3:40:03] based economy there are things
[3:40:06] that are working against that
[3:40:07] like climate change and
[3:40:08] increased heat and the need to
[3:40:08] supplement golf courses because
[3:40:11] we don't get as much rain So
[3:40:12] they need more water and water
[3:40:15] is more expensive And how many
[3:40:16] golf courses can we really keep
[3:40:17] going forward within the budget
[3:40:21] constraints as the climate
[3:40:21] changes?
[3:40:22] But most importantly how many
[3:40:26] golf courses can we continue to
[3:40:27] subsidize while other
[3:40:33] communities have and we're out
[3:40:39] right we're offline again is no
[3:40:39] it this is it still we're
[3:40:40] fixing some audio.
[3:40:43] It's going in and out But
[3:40:43] the zoom is still going.
[3:40:44] Oh, okay.
[3:40:47] So the question for San Diego
[3:40:48] is really how much money do we
[3:40:49] want to use to subsidize
[3:40:50] the wealthiest people not just
[3:40:53] in our region but in
[3:40:54] the country per capita income
[3:40:54] versus how much do we want to
[3:40:57] make available for youth
[3:40:58] opportunities to play golf, to
[3:41:03] learn golf which is a social
[3:41:07] activity that many people don't
[3:41:07] learn unless they have some
[3:41:08] early education and
[3:41:08] opportunities.
[3:41:11] So thank you for doing this
[3:41:20] study.
[3:41:21] >> Okay, so video seems to be
[3:41:21] working.
[3:41:22] The audio is kind of touch and
[3:41:23] go So they're going to do a
[3:41:28] full reboot reboot And so if
[3:41:29] you're listening we are pausing
[3:41:31] the council meeting for this
[3:43:31] reboot
[3:45:17] .
[3:47:18] >> It's
[3:47:47] a test test test 12342 quick
[3:47:48] staff if you can let me know in
[3:48:08] the chat if you can hear me and
[3:48:09] test test 123 city quick staff
[3:48:10] and you can let me know in
[3:48:21] the chat if you can hear me for
[3:48:21] an eventful day And we have
[3:48:26] audio and video backup.
[3:48:27] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[3:48:28] The public and the council
[3:48:28] members for your patience with
[3:48:33] technology.
[3:48:33] All right.
[3:48:34] As a reminder again the council
[3:48:35] fees doing business while we
[3:48:38] resolve those technical issues
[3:48:38] and I believe we're on public
[3:48:43] comment Any more public comment
[3:48:44] in person?
[3:48:44] Are we now going to go to
[3:48:45] virtual virtual virtual?
[3:48:45] Okay.
[3:48:49] Thank you.
[3:48:50] I'm sorry the five minute timer
[3:48:51] to those participating online.
[3:48:54] So Taylor, if you can please
[3:48:55] unmute and let me and proceed
[3:48:59] with your public comment for
[3:48:59] item 331.
[3:48:59] Right.
[3:49:00] Can you hear me?
[3:49:00] Yes we can.
[3:49:01] Okay.
[3:49:01] Yeah.
[3:49:05] Okay.
[3:49:05] That was exciting.
[3:49:06] My name's Sue Taylor and I used
[3:49:07] to work for the city of San
[3:49:12] Diego in the real State
[3:49:12] Department so I'm kind of
[3:49:13] familiar with these golf
[3:49:13] courses.
[3:49:16] I actually live down video
[3:49:17] Anyway, just two things One,
[3:49:23] the Carlton Oaks Golf course.
[3:49:24] The city hasn't owned the whole
[3:49:25] thing so it can't really be
[3:49:25] treated as the same as all
[3:49:28] the courses They only owned
[3:49:29] like nine holes of that golf
[3:49:29] course and the pro shop and
[3:49:35] everything is on the private
[3:49:36] property So you have to take
[3:49:36] that in consideration.
[3:49:40] Also the then golf course is
[3:49:41] kind of like see this can do
[3:49:42] those municipal course and they
[3:49:46] run it with an operator and we
[3:49:46] own like 50% of the land.
[3:49:47] They're not the whole thing
[3:49:47] either.
[3:49:48] So I just want to point out
[3:49:51] those two are not the same as
[3:49:51] all the others.
[3:49:51] >> That's it.
[3:49:52] Thanks.
[3:49:52] Thank you.
[3:49:53] Hector, if you can please
[3:50:01] unmute I hope you guys can keep
[3:50:01] this Hector He didn't cut off
[3:50:02] on the zoom but that condition
[3:50:06] Yes.
[3:50:07] >> We can't Please proceed.
[3:50:08] Well, Fairbanks ranch is
[3:50:08] planned.
[3:50:09] You know there are a bunch of
[3:50:14] attorneys there We get
[3:50:15] the backroom deal through Todd
[3:50:16] or maybe the last mayor Those
[3:50:19] guys are attorneys are playing
[3:50:19] big time.
[3:50:20] The Olympics was played there
[3:50:20] in 84.
[3:50:20] I was there.
[3:50:24] The event was on the course.
[3:50:25] That's a high golf course.
[3:50:26] You should triple the rent on
[3:50:26] them.
[3:50:31] You know, just do it by triple
[3:50:32] it but don't do it by how much
[3:50:35] revenue they have because
[3:50:36] they're scamming the revenue.
[3:50:36] They can make it seem like
[3:50:37] they're losing money and
[3:50:41] they're not They're attorneys
[3:50:42] Accountants triple the rent.
[3:50:43] Just don't do it by revenue
[3:50:47] whatever it is now triple it
[3:50:48] and they'll be saying how hard
[3:50:49] you closed down the bathrooms
[3:50:54] and they probably owe you $1
[3:50:54] million a year for like ten
[3:50:55] years they've been playing.
[3:50:55] Yeah.
[3:50:59] You know these guys are not pay
[3:51:00] top dollar played golf They're
[3:51:06] not ignorant They know they
[3:51:06] don't want it They don't want
[3:51:07] to rock the boat man But it
[3:51:11] could be the golf gods or
[3:51:12] the golf gods are intervening
[3:51:12] on all these low budget things
[3:51:18] You have.
[3:51:18] I believe in GOD and I also
[3:51:19] believe in the golf gods.
[3:51:20] He might be protecting
[3:51:23] the golfers because you guys
[3:51:24] are so naive.
[3:51:25] This is like huge money you
[3:51:30] walking away from four years,
[3:51:31] two years, six years You don't
[3:51:31] know how to do it.
[3:51:36] I don't know what it's worth.
[3:51:36] That's just that's just it's
[3:51:42] either stupid or it's naive And
[3:51:43] I know when you guys shut down
[3:51:43] the bathrooms I know the guys
[3:51:44] that clean the bathrooms
[3:51:48] they're in Mission Beach and
[3:51:49] they didn't get fired.
[3:51:49] They just didn't have to clean
[3:51:55] so many bathrooms.
[3:51:55] So you're saving $500,000 a
[3:51:56] year doing that you don't have
[3:51:59] It's all just toilet paper and
[3:52:00] cleaning up from the homeless
[3:52:04] guys That's concluded Next is
[3:52:04] Barbara Gordon if you can
[3:52:10] please I'm you Barbara Gordon
[3:52:11] Academy Before you I will have
[3:52:12] to go on to the next caller If
[3:52:16] you can't fix your technical
[3:52:16] difficulties.
[3:52:26] Barbara Gordon 7499 if you can
[3:52:32] please a new Bob because this
[3:52:33] year I agree with the earlier
[3:52:38] caller that many leases lessees
[3:52:39] are likely underreporting their
[3:52:39] income.
[3:52:40] As I mentioned many many times
[3:52:44] a great portion of the city's
[3:52:45] wealth is in the extensive real
[3:52:46] estate holdings by the city of
[3:52:46] San Diego.
[3:52:50] Yet the real estate assets
[3:52:51] department or whatever you call
[3:52:51] them now has done an abysmal
[3:52:56] job of managing those assets
[3:52:56] for the public.
[3:52:57] Our public land should be
[3:52:58] operated for the benefit of
[3:52:58] the public.
[3:53:01] Yet this city leases those
[3:53:02] lands to private businesses and
[3:53:03] organizations without any
[3:53:07] meaningful accountability
[3:53:08] reporting or oversight.
[3:53:08] Is it any surprise that
[3:53:09] business is leasing our public
[3:53:13] lands and take advantage of
[3:53:14] the city's incompetent
[3:53:14] oversight?
[3:53:18] How many times since 2007, 20
[3:53:18] years ago have you heard me
[3:53:19] asking for better oversight of
[3:53:23] our public lands such as
[3:53:24] the Torrey Pines Glider for how
[3:53:24] many times?
[3:53:30] Joe LaCava I see the remainder
[3:53:31] of my two minutes for Joe
[3:53:31] LaCava to formulate an answer
[3:53:32] for us Otherwise please
[3:53:33] consider the ensuing silence as
[3:53:34] a rhetorical portion of my
[3:53:35] speech.
[3:54:33] Thank you
[3:54:34] .
[3:54:41] >> Next week goes where Beekman
[3:54:42] the five minute timer did
[3:54:42] conclude there are three
[3:54:43] speakers in the queue and
[3:54:44] additional speakers will be
[3:54:47] taken.
[3:54:47] >> Blair Beekman Hi Blair
[3:54:48] Beekman.
[3:54:48] Thank you that you fixed
[3:54:51] the zoom issue with this item
[3:54:51] to ask.
[3:54:52] It's my understanding with
[3:54:57] the new California state rules
[3:54:57] about Zoom use that came in
[3:54:58] JULY 1st doesn't didn't they
[3:55:02] say that you have to allow for
[3:55:03] one hour to work on Zoom issues
[3:55:04] if there are problems and after
[3:55:05] one hour then you can call
[3:55:09] the meeting or go on as without
[3:55:10] the zoom.
[3:55:10] I think that's the official
[3:55:15] rulebook that you guys better
[3:55:15] review if this happens again.
[3:55:16] Thank you.
[3:55:16] You fixed it though.
[3:55:21] Thank you greatly And my my
[3:55:21] simple ask at this time with
[3:55:28] this item I really hope that
[3:55:29] goldfish who's San Saturday had
[3:55:29] this sort of issue previously
[3:55:33] when I was living there.
[3:55:33] I hope that you can be resolved
[3:55:34] that can serve that there can
[3:55:39] be a way to make money off golf
[3:55:39] courses yet still want to
[3:55:40] promote golfing for everyone.
[3:55:41] And is there a way that for
[3:55:45] instance a race can be for
[3:55:45] people of lower income that
[3:55:50] they can get discounted rates
[3:55:51] compared to people who can
[3:55:56] afford to pay a bit more and
[3:55:57] that's one option to help.
[3:55:58] I think the option of golf
[3:56:02] being available shouldn't be
[3:56:03] none of it not available to
[3:56:03] lower income people.
[3:56:04] i think it can be a it's a
[3:56:09] really meditative sport if you
[3:56:10] think about it and it can be a
[3:56:11] really good form of exercise
[3:56:14] and thought it should be
[3:56:15] available to to all levels of
[3:56:15] income.
[3:56:21] Good luck how to do that And I
[3:56:22] still think there can be ways
[3:56:22] that money can be made for
[3:56:23] the city from the golf course.
[3:56:24] Good luck on working on that
[3:56:25] and figuring that out with that
[3:56:33] can be I, I guess with that
[3:56:33] thank you for your time.
[3:56:34] >> Natalie rush to complete on
[3:56:35] you and then back you up as our
[3:56:42] final speaker.
[3:56:43] I was a little lost because I
[3:56:43] think that my daughter got my
[3:56:48] stuff and so I'm not quite sure
[3:56:49] I lost my train of thought on
[3:56:50] the subject On item 331
[3:56:56] the performance audit.
[3:56:57] Sorry I lost my train of
[3:56:57] thought.
[3:56:58] I'm multitasking and all these
[3:57:02] golf courses I'm I'm just
[3:57:03] confused on a lot of things
[3:57:07] that we do as business and
[3:57:08] where the money goes and what
[3:57:14] we're doing and revenue Is it
[3:57:15] revenue or is it getting put
[3:57:19] back for the public?
[3:57:20] I mean just the word language
[3:57:26] revenue for whom It's a lot.
[3:57:26] It's a lot what we're dealing
[3:57:32] with listening to these kids
[3:57:33] I'm sorry what they come and
[3:57:39] get there Oh my gosh I'm got
[3:57:43] their slideshow and audits and
[3:57:44] we have people that are staff I
[3:57:45] mean on the golf course this
[3:57:50] revenue feeding people or
[3:57:51] housing people or helping with
[3:57:51] mental disabilities I mean it's
[3:57:56] just all crazy to me.
[3:57:57] I'll leave the rest for my
[3:57:57] public not to comment.
[3:58:01] Thank you Becky.
[3:58:02] You wrap if you can please
[3:58:07] unmute.
[3:58:08] >> Yes, good afternoon.
[3:58:09] My name is Becky Rapp and I
[3:58:09] appreciate this audit report.
[3:58:13] It is as it is crucial that
[3:58:14] places are held accountable and
[3:58:23] that they are operating above
[3:58:23] the line.
[3:58:24] We need to consider
[3:58:30] the priorities of our city as
[3:58:30] we are in this budget deficit
[3:58:35] holding leases accountable
[3:58:35] should be of the utmost
[3:58:36] priority In my community we are
[3:58:42] facing our community rec center
[3:58:42] and pool closing at the end of
[3:58:43] this month for four months not
[3:58:47] just cutting hours but
[3:58:48] completely closing down for
[3:58:49] four months Yet we have pot
[3:58:53] shops and tobacco stores that
[3:58:54] we have still yet to not been
[3:58:59] able to have a detailed audit
[3:59:00] telling us if they're even
[3:59:00] paying their taxes.
[3:59:01] These are things that need to
[3:59:06] be considered and they need to
[3:59:07] be made a priority as basic
[3:59:11] necessities of our city Are are
[3:59:12] are suffering and put being put
[3:59:12] last.
[3:59:13] Thank you.
[3:59:18] Thank you.
[3:59:19] And then Judy Strang, if you
[3:59:30] can please unmute Judy Strain
[3:59:36] Oh Oh thank you.
[3:59:37] A mute button just barely came
[3:59:37] up.
[3:59:38] Thank you for working out
[3:59:41] the tech problems.
[3:59:42] That's always a little
[3:59:43] frustrating at our end As
[3:59:47] watchers I can only guess that
[3:59:47] I'm quite well acquainted with
[3:59:48] the Fairbanks Golf course and
[3:59:53] yes how it was described to you
[3:59:54] as being a losing proposition
[4:00:00] for the city is so true.
[4:00:01] That's that's the first place
[4:00:01] to start and I'm reluctant to
[4:00:05] say it out loud since I know
[4:00:06] people who play there and I
[4:00:07] feel a little bit traitorous.
[4:00:07] But yeah, the city got
[4:00:11] the wrong end of that stick
[4:00:12] when I really called in about
[4:00:13] was my concern for
[4:00:17] the mitigation opportunity for
[4:00:18] students.
[4:00:18] We have several grandsons who
[4:00:19] are in high school and like to
[4:00:24] play in our golf courses and
[4:00:24] some of the golf courses have
[4:00:25] allowed for that.
[4:00:29] Others haven't And it would be
[4:00:30] nice if the policy was
[4:00:31] consistent across all of
[4:00:35] the golf courses.
[4:00:36] But certainly something has to
[4:00:36] be built here and we have high
[4:00:41] school golf now It has just
[4:00:42] grown in popularity and some of
[4:00:46] our local colleges not
[4:00:47] the least of which is San Diego
[4:00:53] State has a well-respected golf
[4:00:54] team.
[4:00:54] So you're going to see more and
[4:00:55] more high school students
[4:00:56] coming through that will want
[4:01:00] access to our public courses.
[4:01:01] >> Thank you.
[4:01:01] Thank you.
[4:01:02] That does conclude from a
[4:01:02] comment on the title.
[4:01:03] All right.
[4:01:07] Thank you, city Clerk and thank
[4:01:07] you for you and the team idea
[4:01:08] and city 24 and anybody else
[4:01:12] who weighed into the result
[4:01:12] those problems And again as a
[4:01:13] reminder when we were offline
[4:01:14] we were not conducting any
[4:01:18] business here in chambers.
[4:01:19] So with that I'll turn it over
[4:01:19] to my council colleagues for
[4:01:20] questions Comments This is an
[4:01:24] information item No motion is
[4:01:25] required and we'll start with
[4:01:25] the chair of the audit
[4:01:29] committee council member Marino
[4:01:29] Thank you and thank you for
[4:01:30] the presentation And I want to
[4:01:31] once again thank the City
[4:01:36] auditor and the whole team for
[4:01:37] the work that they're putting
[4:01:37] that they put into this report
[4:01:42] and others as well stated
[4:01:42] the city owns a golf courses
[4:01:46] which totals about 868 acres of
[4:01:47] land that are leased to private
[4:01:53] and nonprofit operators In
[4:01:53] fiscal year 24.
[4:01:57] These leased golf courses
[4:01:58] generated $34 million in
[4:01:58] revenue for course operators
[4:02:03] while the city only received
[4:02:03] $3.7 million of rents.
[4:02:04] The revenue from leased golf
[4:02:09] courses support essential
[4:02:09] general fund services like
[4:02:10] parks, libraries and also our
[4:02:14] streets.
[4:02:15] The leased golf courses also
[4:02:16] support the water fund which
[4:02:20] helps offset repairs water
[4:02:21] bills.
[4:02:21] We first discussed this item at
[4:02:22] our OCTOBER Audit Committee
[4:02:26] meeting and I do appreciate
[4:02:27] the follow up and the work
[4:02:27] that's gone into identifying
[4:02:32] identifying an opportunity to
[4:02:32] increase the rent that
[4:02:33] Fairbanks ranch pays to
[4:02:37] the city And I especially want
[4:02:38] to thank the city auditor's
[4:02:39] office for bringing this to
[4:02:39] the attention of city staff.
[4:02:43] This is exactly the kind of
[4:02:44] oversight that can help
[4:02:45] the city make sure that it's
[4:02:49] getting the best possible
[4:02:50] return from public assets that
[4:02:51] cannot be used by residents
[4:02:56] unless they pay a hefty fee.
[4:02:57] If a resident wanted to use
[4:02:57] the golf course in Fairbanks
[4:03:02] Ranch, it would cost them about
[4:03:03] $25,000 for admission for an
[4:03:07] initiation fee and monthly dues
[4:03:12] of about 1270 In fiscal year
[4:03:13] 2025 Fairbanks Ranch Country
[4:03:13] Club reported 16.7 million in
[4:03:18] lease revenues while the city
[4:03:19] received only $863,000 in
[4:03:23] calendar year 24.
[4:03:23] At a time when the city is
[4:03:24] making very difficult decisions
[4:03:29] about budget about its budget,
[4:03:30] it must consider whether these
[4:03:30] lessees are getting a fair
[4:03:35] return.
[4:03:35] Around 25% of the city's leases
[4:03:40] are in holdovers meaning we're
[4:03:41] leaving potential revenue on
[4:03:41] the table that could help fund
[4:03:42] critical services that are
[4:03:46] residents rely on like arts and
[4:03:47] culture, libraries and parks.
[4:03:51] One of the lessees that
[4:03:52] generated the most for the city
[4:03:57] is mission Trails who is leased
[4:03:57] by the American golf course.
[4:03:58] The American golf generated
[4:04:03] about approximately 4.9 million
[4:04:07] in lessee revenues in fiscal
[4:04:08] year 2025 and the lessee paid
[4:04:12] the city approximately 1.1
[4:04:12] million in fiscal year 24.
[4:04:17] American golf has golf courses
[4:04:17] in California, Florida, New
[4:04:22] Mexico, New York and Texas and
[4:04:22] has over 50 years of experience
[4:04:23] handling golf course golf
[4:04:23] courses.
[4:04:27] And yet during the city
[4:04:28] auditor's review of the golf
[4:04:29] course leases, mission trails
[4:04:33] had been in hold for over four
[4:04:34] years.
[4:04:35] We have a responsibility to be
[4:04:38] good stewards of taxpayer
[4:04:39] resources and the entities that
[4:04:40] lease from the city.
[4:04:44] I think the crux of the issue
[4:04:45] is that ultimately this is an
[4:04:45] example of how the city's
[4:04:50] standard for residents and
[4:04:51] multi million dollar
[4:04:51] institutions are starkly
[4:04:55] different.
[4:04:56] If there's an opportunity to
[4:04:56] generate additional revenue
[4:04:57] without raising taxes and
[4:05:01] without cutting services that
[4:05:02] our community rely on, we
[4:05:03] should take the opportunity
[4:05:03] seriously.
[4:05:07] The city should not be waiting
[4:05:08] up to the last minute to act on
[4:05:13] reappraisal and adjustments of
[4:05:13] rent.
[4:05:14] With enough time the city can
[4:05:18] do proper appraisals, let
[4:05:19] leaseholders know of their
[4:05:19] rents being adjusted and start
[4:05:23] the new lease as soon as
[4:05:24] possible basically ensuring our
[4:05:25] residents receive their fair
[4:05:28] share from these multimillion
[4:05:29] dollar institutions.
[4:05:33] Once again I think the city
[4:05:34] auditor enough and in
[4:05:34] particularly for letting
[4:05:35] the Economic Development
[4:05:39] Department know of
[4:05:40] the opportunity to raise rent
[4:05:40] to Fairbanks Ranch And I also
[4:05:44] want to I do want to thank
[4:05:45] economic development staff for
[4:05:45] reacting to this opportunity
[4:05:49] and making this a top priority
[4:05:50] given the importance of this
[4:05:50] opportunity and the city's
[4:05:54] effort to make it a top
[4:05:54] priority.
[4:05:55] I do believe it's appropriate
[4:05:56] to provide the public with an
[4:06:00] update on the status of these
[4:06:00] negotiations.
[4:06:01] So city staff, can you please
[4:06:04] provide an update to the public
[4:06:05] on how negotiations have gone
[4:06:14] with Fairbanks Ranch thing?
[4:06:15] >> Thank you for the question.
[4:06:16] Councilmember Kristina Butler,
[4:06:17] Director of Economic
[4:06:20] Development.
[4:06:21] We had sent our letter of
[4:06:25] readjustment on time in
[4:06:26] economic development to
[4:06:26] Fairbanks Ranch.
[4:06:30] Within that time frame we were
[4:06:30] able to conduct the appraisal
[4:06:35] on time and received roughly a
[4:06:35] 41% increase in the overall
[4:06:36] rent.
[4:06:40] It was received well and all
[4:06:41] backed by data.
[4:06:42] So that has concluded and is
[4:06:42] effective this current fiscal
[4:06:46] year and went into effect on
[4:06:46] time on JULY 18th or JULY 18th.
[4:06:47] Wonderful.
[4:06:51] And so does that mean that
[4:06:52] Fairbanks ranch is paying
[4:06:52] market rate?
[4:06:53] They are paying market rate.
[4:06:56] Wonderful.
[4:06:56] Thank you.
[4:06:57] I'd like to request that
[4:06:57] the rba review their appraisal
[4:07:01] and also let the council know
[4:07:01] if they have any concerns about
[4:07:05] this too.
[4:07:06] A high stake here.
[4:07:07] I mean I've only driven by
[4:07:10] Fairbanks ranch and I could say
[4:07:11] that you can't even go in
[4:07:11] there.
[4:07:15] And unless you have authority
[4:07:20] by the security so I'd like to
[4:07:21] know whether this is a fair
[4:07:25] market or whether they're
[4:07:26] paying a fair market rate.
[4:07:27] Is this something that could be
[4:07:30] accommodated?
[4:07:31] >> I'm happy to discuss that
[4:07:31] with your office and our real
[4:07:35] estate consultant and get back
[4:07:35] to council member.
[4:07:36] >> Thank you so much Once again
[4:07:39] to the auditor.
[4:07:40] Thank you for everything
[4:07:41] Everybody in the office Thank
[4:07:44] you guys for all that you do
[4:07:45] for the citizens of San Diego.
[4:07:48] Do you have any comments that
[4:07:49] you want to add regarding this
[4:07:54] audit?
[4:07:54] >> You're asking me, correct?
[4:07:55] Yes.
[4:07:59] No, I think we covered it in
[4:07:59] the presentation.
[4:08:00] I do agree.
[4:08:03] I think it would be good for
[4:08:04] the aba to look into this.
[4:08:07] You know that's good that they
[4:08:08] were able to negotiate an
[4:08:09] increase but it is still far
[4:08:12] below the rate that other
[4:08:13] courses are paying that make
[4:08:14] far less money and are far less
[4:08:17] profitable.
[4:08:18] So I'm not saying anything is
[4:08:18] necessarily wrong but I think
[4:08:22] it's we should make sure that
[4:08:22] we are getting the best
[4:08:23] possible deal.
[4:08:26] I'm sorry I might have missed
[4:08:27] that part of the presentation.
[4:08:31] Do you mind taking us back to
[4:08:31] that part of the presentation
[4:08:35] where you show other rates that
[4:08:36] other golf courses are paying
[4:08:36] just so that we could?
[4:08:39] I still have two minutes on
[4:08:44] the lights so we're controlling
[4:08:45] it from over here.
[4:08:46] >> You can just tell us which
[4:08:52] slide it is so you could get
[4:08:52] slide six.
[4:08:58] I can I can step ma'am if you
[4:08:58] please.
[4:08:59] I can I can step through what's
[4:08:59] on that slide and know it's
[4:09:02] small and kind of hard to read
[4:09:03] .
[4:09:03] But these if you look down
[4:09:04] the left side there that is
[4:09:04] the list of lessees.
[4:09:07] So the least the courses that
[4:09:08] the city owns and leases out if
[4:09:12] you just skip over to the far
[4:09:12] right that's the percentage
[4:09:13] lease that was paid to the city
[4:09:16] at the time of the audit.
[4:09:17] So you can see it runs
[4:09:19] the gamut there clean up park
[4:09:20] at 1% but that that's a
[4:09:24] different kind of arrangement
[4:09:25] as a as a nonprofit.
[4:09:26] So if you just focusing on
[4:09:29] the couple that you referenced
[4:09:30] if you look at Fairbanks ranch
[4:09:30] they pay 5% That's average
[4:09:34] across all categories.
[4:09:35] By comparison, Mission Trails
[4:09:35] is at 22%.
[4:09:39] Technology at 25%.
[4:09:40] Again, this is at the time of
[4:09:40] the audit.
[4:09:44] So that kind of gives you an
[4:09:49] idea of gamut.
[4:09:49] Does that answer your question,
[4:09:50] ma'am?
[4:09:53] That makes me very angry.
[4:09:54] But yes, it does answer my make
[4:09:58] you angry but okay.
[4:09:59] Okay.
[4:09:59] Well thank you once again to
[4:10:00] everybody.
[4:10:03] I think we all have our work
[4:10:04] cut out for us And once again
[4:10:05] thank you to the auditor for
[4:10:08] bringing this to light and
[4:10:11] hopefully generating 40% more
[4:10:12] from Fairbanks Ranch.
[4:10:12] All right.
[4:10:16] Thank you, Councilmember Moreno
[4:10:17] .
[4:10:17] >> We'll go next to council
[4:10:18] member Isla Rivera.
[4:10:18] Thank you.
[4:10:22] Council PRESIDENT Thank you to
[4:10:23] you and your team for for this
[4:10:26] report.
[4:10:26] Thanks to Chair Moreno for her
[4:10:27] work on the audit committee.
[4:10:31] I'm I share the anger and I'm
[4:10:31] glad we're having this
[4:10:35] conversation.
[4:10:41] The new agreement with
[4:10:42] Fairbanks Ranch we are
[4:10:42] expecting 1.1 to 1.2 million
[4:10:43] per year.
[4:10:47] >> Is that correct?
[4:10:48] >> Correct.
[4:10:52] Councilmember It's over 1.2
[4:10:52] million.
[4:10:54] It's an increase of 375,000
[4:10:59] annually And why does it why is
[4:11:04] the negotiated rate less than
[4:11:04] other courses?
[4:11:05] >> Thank you for
[4:11:06] the opportunity to answer that
[4:11:06] question.
[4:11:09] So what This is a reevaluation
[4:11:12] based on a period in time at
[4:11:13] actual obligation so it is not
[4:11:14] a full renegotiation in
[4:11:18] the same way of the rfp
[4:11:19] negotiations that we're
[4:11:19] currently in With the others it
[4:11:23] has a very strict parameter as
[4:11:24] to what we can evaluate and
[4:11:27] then bring it to market.
[4:11:28] So it is starting from a
[4:11:32] baseline that originated when
[4:11:33] the lease was initiated and
[4:11:36] then re-upped in 2016 for
[4:11:40] the frequency.
[4:11:45] That answer your question Yes.
[4:11:50] >> Well kind of So your your
[4:11:55] position is is that this is
[4:11:55] the best the city could do
[4:11:56] based on the contract that
[4:11:58] the city has with Fairbanks
[4:12:02] Ranch.
[4:12:03] I think that's a broad
[4:12:03] characterization.
[4:12:07] What we negotiated is not only
[4:12:12] market but in some cases a 50%
[4:12:12] increase.
[4:12:13] Only two of the categories that
[4:12:17] we were allowed to reevaluate
[4:12:18] maintained at the rate they
[4:12:22] were at the rest of them
[4:12:23] increased significantly for an
[4:12:26] overall increase of rent of 41%
[4:12:27] And all of that is backed by
[4:12:34] market data and that that's
[4:12:38] tied to benchmarking with other
[4:12:39] properties that Right
[4:12:43] benchmarking with other
[4:12:43] categories related to
[4:12:44] concessions and what those
[4:12:48] categories are that are defined
[4:12:49] in that lease.
[4:12:49] Correct.
[4:12:50] I'm sorry, could we ask you to
[4:12:51] go to the Taller Mike are
[4:12:53] having difficulties hearing you
[4:12:54] in the zoom?
[4:12:54] Thank you.
[4:12:58] Sure.
[4:13:07] Okay.
[4:13:08] Andy, your contention is that
[4:13:12] there's still more that or at a
[4:13:17] minimum we should be asking why
[4:13:18] continue to ask why
[4:13:22] the difference in in rates and
[4:13:26] why Fairbanks is playing
[4:13:27] comparable amounts or sometimes
[4:13:32] less than far less profitable
[4:13:32] course is correct.
[4:13:33] >> We I don't know why You know
[4:13:37] I think it is surprising that
[4:13:40] the rate would have come out to
[4:13:41] only 7%.
[4:13:44] What other courses are paying
[4:13:44] 20 to 25%.
[4:13:45] But as MS..
[4:13:45] Miller pointed out, they have
[4:13:49] possibly some limitations from
[4:13:49] the agreement.
[4:13:52] The amendment that was made in
[4:13:53] 2016 that lowered basically
[4:13:57] lowered the rates at that time
[4:14:01] And then there's parameters on
[4:14:02] how that can be reassessed if
[4:14:07] comps can be found which I
[4:14:07] don't think good comps could be
[4:14:08] found for the membership
[4:14:11] categories specifically which
[4:14:12] is pretty important because
[4:14:15] that's 80% of the country
[4:14:16] club's revenue.
[4:14:20] How can I think I'm confused
[4:14:20] why there wouldn't be able to
[4:14:21] be comps found.
[4:14:25] There's other country clubs and
[4:14:26] I forgive me I think that's
[4:14:30] somewhat speculation.
[4:14:31] We do have comparable ranges
[4:14:35] And so in the membership alone
[4:14:43] and an appraised range is
[4:14:43] between 5 and 10% of similar
[4:14:48] like comparing things And so
[4:14:51] our negotiated rate there is
[4:14:52] six based on how much we could
[4:14:58] fluctuate within that threshold
[4:14:59] .
[4:14:59] >> Okay.
[4:15:04] Thanks for saying that thinking
[4:15:05] and I'm looking at a photo of
[4:15:08] Haring's country club and it's
[4:15:08] beautiful.
[4:15:14] It's yeah it's just stunning
[4:15:18] and I'm This is city property
[4:15:18] right?
[4:15:23] Okay.
[4:15:27] And country club members there
[4:15:27] pay $25,000 a year to use that
[4:15:34] course to enjoy that And we
[4:15:39] pull up photos of some
[4:15:40] restrooms at a park in Mount
[4:15:44] Hope in my district And this is
[4:15:49] what was there And now there's
[4:15:50] porta potties and we had a
[4:15:54] fight until the last second of
[4:15:54] this budget savings previous
[4:15:56] budget cycle to get funding for
[4:16:02] a new restroom to be built.
[4:16:02] And so the anger that
[4:16:05] Councilmember Moreno shared I
[4:16:11] feel the same exact way We just
[4:16:16] approve the transfer
[4:16:16] opportunity funds to rec
[4:16:17] centers in districts four,
[4:16:18] eight and nine that are
[4:16:21] scraping by on budgets of less
[4:16:21] than $100,000 After we did
[4:16:25] considerable work after
[4:16:26] the Council had to fight to
[4:16:31] have a nother for profit very,
[4:16:31] very very profitable entity in
[4:16:35] the same part of of the county
[4:16:39] pay more of their fair share
[4:16:44] for the use of city property
[4:16:45] And I, I want to understand
[4:16:49] what is the mayor's philosophy
[4:16:49] on maximizing revenue from city
[4:16:50] property so that it can be
[4:16:54] utilized for the good of San
[4:16:55] Diegans specifically as it
[4:16:59] relates to Parks and Rec
[4:17:00] Councilmember I think it's in
[4:17:04] line with the council's
[4:17:04] philosophy.
[4:17:05] I don't I don't know that it is
[4:17:05] Councilmember.
[4:17:08] I also think that if
[4:17:09] the conversations that
[4:17:09] initiated this deal decades ago
[4:17:13] took place today, the structure
[4:17:14] would be very different And I
[4:17:14] think through the work that
[4:17:15] we've done together through
[4:17:19] budget and new parks and new
[4:17:19] projects that we capitalize as
[4:17:23] much as we can.
[4:17:24] And I think the deal points
[4:17:25] that Christina just mentioned
[4:17:28] earlier head in that direction
[4:17:29] of working within the confines
[4:17:30] of the existing contract to try
[4:17:33] to maximize as much as we can.
[4:17:34] And so I get where you're
[4:17:35] saying this is it's an
[4:17:38] egregious example, right?
[4:17:39] It really is in those pictures
[4:17:42] I think you know, really do say
[4:17:43] a thousand words But I do think
[4:17:43] that if those conversations
[4:17:44] took place today, the situation
[4:17:47] would be much different.
[4:17:48] And I hope that the work that
[4:17:49] eda has done to maximize as
[4:17:52] much as we can at the intervals
[4:17:53] that we're allowed to do so
[4:17:56] indicates that I appreciate
[4:17:57] that response but I don't I
[4:17:58] don't know that we're aligned
[4:18:01] because consistently
[4:18:02] the council is the one that has
[4:18:03] to come in in the back end and
[4:18:09] and fight for more and and I
[4:18:10] have not seen that has been
[4:18:14] given direction from
[4:18:14] the mayor's office to go after
[4:18:19] the wealthiest most profitable
[4:18:24] users of city property the ones
[4:18:24] that are in holdover and
[4:18:28] the ones that got sweetheart
[4:18:29] deals decades ago and continue
[4:18:33] to profit from those.
[4:18:34] At what point is the mayor's
[4:18:38] office say enough is enough and
[4:18:38] everyone who's in hold over
[4:18:39] who's making the most money get
[4:18:43] in line because it's your turn
[4:18:44] to finally pay your fair share
[4:18:47] Because I don't think that
[4:18:48] direction has been given to d I
[4:18:52] think that direction has been
[4:18:53] given to E.D. You know we've
[4:18:54] had a conversation I think
[4:18:57] sometime last year about
[4:18:58] the prioritization of holdover
[4:18:59] leases 900 leases citywide and
[4:19:01] a real estate team of what 1214
[4:19:02] agents.
[4:19:02] And so the direction has been
[4:19:06] given to them and I think
[4:19:07] through explicitly focus on
[4:19:07] the most profitable entities
[4:19:11] those who are have the best
[4:19:12] deals from the city, those
[4:19:13] who've made the most money on
[4:19:13] city property for the longest
[4:19:16] period of time.
[4:19:16] Yeah Councilmember thank you
[4:19:20] for your question Specifically
[4:19:21] that No but what we have been
[4:19:22] targeted with doing is driving
[4:19:25] as much revenue and profit as
[4:19:26] we possibly can with the leases
[4:19:27] that become available to us at
[4:19:27] that time.
[4:19:31] So we are to Christina and
[4:19:32] the teams benefit We've
[4:19:35] retooled it to focus on those
[4:19:36] leases to focus on revenue not
[4:19:36] just for the general fund side
[4:19:37] but also for rate payers on
[4:19:47] the port side there was a
[4:19:48] question asked and I actually
[4:19:48] think it's a fair one for San
[4:19:51] Diegans to ask because of
[4:19:52] the frustrations that everyone
[4:19:56] is feeling on a regular basis.
[4:19:57] Pools are closed, libraries are
[4:20:01] closed, rec centers are hours
[4:20:05] are reduced, restrooms closed
[4:20:06] And we just saw reporting that
[4:20:09] Balboa Park has between 500
[4:20:10] million and $1 billion in
[4:20:14] deferred maintenance and their
[4:20:15] country club continues to look
[4:20:15] the way it does.
[4:20:16] The profits there continue to
[4:20:23] pile up And so how much are we
[4:20:24] willing to subsidize golf
[4:20:26] rounds for country club members
[4:20:27] And is it the mayor's position
[4:20:28] the profits of country clubs
[4:20:32] like Fairbanks Ranch are more
[4:20:32] important than the services and
[4:20:37] resources that are provided by
[4:20:37] the city's parks, parks and rec
[4:20:38] centers.
[4:20:38] I think these are fair
[4:20:42] questions for residents to ask
[4:20:42] and as much as I know that we
[4:20:46] need to increase revenue across
[4:20:47] the city, I also understand why
[4:20:51] it would make residents blood
[4:20:52] boil to know that rich people's
[4:20:52] golf rounds are being
[4:20:57] subsidized raised at a $25,000
[4:21:02] per year country club while
[4:21:02] their rec centers hours are
[4:21:03] being slashed and they're being
[4:21:06] asked to pay more.
[4:21:07] And if we're actually going to
[4:21:11] get this ship turned in
[4:21:12] the right direction and get
[4:21:12] residents to believe that this
[4:21:16] is a city worth investing in
[4:21:16] their needs, they're going to
[4:21:17] need to see the executive of
[4:21:20] this city fight for its
[4:21:21] residents and actually take on
[4:21:21] the people who are making
[4:21:25] the most money and enjoying
[4:21:25] the benefits of this city
[4:21:26] the most.
[4:21:30] Well, everyone else struggles
[4:21:31] to know whether or not they're
[4:21:34] going to pay next month's rent
[4:21:35] And I can appreciate
[4:21:39] the efforts of the employees of
[4:21:40] Ed and the work that this bill
[4:21:44] does And I do not think by any
[4:21:45] stretch of the imagination that
[4:21:49] this administration has put
[4:21:49] the most profitable entities in
[4:21:53] San Diego on notice that it is
[4:21:54] about time that they pay their
[4:21:58] fair share and that if they
[4:21:59] don't the city will find new
[4:22:03] partners or run these things
[4:22:03] ourselves so that San Diegans
[4:22:08] can actually enjoy the benefits
[4:22:08] of being one of the most
[4:22:09] beautiful places in the world
[4:22:12] that people from around
[4:22:13] the world want to come to And
[4:22:14] wealthy people are willing to
[4:22:17] pay significant amounts of
[4:22:22] money to visit to recreate.
[4:22:22] And right now the only people
[4:22:27] who are benefiting from that
[4:22:28] are other rich people who are
[4:22:28] piling up millions and millions
[4:22:32] in profit.
[4:22:32] So Andy, thank you again for
[4:22:37] the work you did on this.
[4:22:37] Thank you To the audit
[4:22:38] committee as always counts From
[4:22:41] what I know I, I can appreciate
[4:22:42] that there will be more money
[4:22:46] coming in as a result of this
[4:22:46] audit and the work that was
[4:22:47] done after that and at the same
[4:22:50] time be extremely frustrated
[4:22:55] that it takes audit reports, it
[4:22:56] takes conversations like this
[4:22:57] to actually kick things into
[4:23:00] gear and far more often than
[4:23:01] not the council is the ones are
[4:23:01] the ones who are left coming in
[4:23:08] at the back end to squeeze more
[4:23:08] out of these profitable
[4:23:13] entities to make sure that
[4:23:14] the city is actually not
[4:23:15] getting screwed in these deals.
[4:23:15] Thank you.
[4:23:17] Council PRESIDENT.
[4:23:18] All right.
[4:23:19] Thank you, Council member Eli
[4:23:19] Rivera.
[4:23:23] We'll go next to council member
[4:23:23] Von Wilbert.
[4:23:27] Thank you for the audit in
[4:23:28] the work and thank you to your
[4:23:28] team and for the briefing on
[4:23:31] this ahead of time.
[4:23:32] i mean I had very similar
[4:23:36] questions to my colleagues
[4:23:37] about why Fairbanks Ranch
[4:23:41] Country Club isn't paying 25%
[4:23:45] or to be another 2 million or
[4:23:45] so dollars a year.
[4:23:46] It'd be put them out around $44
[4:23:49] million because technology
[4:23:50] Canyon is paying 25%, Mission
[4:23:51] trails are paying 22%.
[4:23:54] Even Hodges is paying 2020 15%
[4:23:55] of their lease revenue paid to
[4:23:56] the city And yet Fairbanks
[4:23:59] Ranch Country Club is now
[4:24:00] paying what, seven?
[4:24:04] So why can't they be paying 25?
[4:24:04] They're the most likely to
[4:24:08] afford it and other golf
[4:24:08] courses are.
[4:24:13] So that's my question Did they
[4:24:14] tell you and you answered it
[4:24:17] why they were different?
[4:24:18] I mean I cannot speak to
[4:24:22] the negotiations if you're
[4:24:23] asking me I know that the this
[4:24:28] is covered in the audit in 2016
[4:24:28] There was an at the lease was
[4:24:32] transferred to a new operator
[4:24:33] and at that time there was a
[4:24:36] lease amendment that lowered
[4:24:37] lowered the rates At that time
[4:24:41] the most important rate is
[4:24:42] the rate for memberships
[4:24:45] because that's 80% of their
[4:24:46] revenue and I think that went
[4:24:49] from 10% to 4% at that time.
[4:24:50] So that's why it's been like
[4:24:51] that for the last ten years.
[4:24:55] But I can't speak to that.
[4:24:55] That's a question for
[4:25:03] the administration as to the 7%
[4:25:03] .
[4:25:03] Okay.
[4:25:04] Did anybody this was just
[4:25:05] worked on wasn't there If I
[4:25:08] could call Christine about to
[4:25:09] talk through the deal point on
[4:25:12] why.
[4:25:12] So thank you for the question.
[4:25:16] 25% is not within market and it
[4:25:21] is a data point that is in
[4:25:21] the report but not what is
[4:25:22] allowable contractually within
[4:25:25] the lease itself.
[4:25:26] Each of the categories is
[4:25:27] broken out and then we have
[4:25:30] the determination to find
[4:25:31] within the category what is
[4:25:32] market, what is the range of
[4:25:35] market within that And we can
[4:25:36] negotiate within that range.
[4:25:40] So it's not a broad assessment
[4:25:40] of a number.
[4:25:44] It frankly has to be tied to
[4:25:45] market.
[4:25:46] So we started a lower number as
[4:25:50] I was explaining to
[4:25:51] Councilmember Ila Rivera and
[4:25:53] then that number has increased
[4:25:54] by 50%.
[4:25:54] That is now justifiable within
[4:25:55] the range from the starting
[4:25:59] point we were given back in
[4:25:59] 2016.
[4:26:03] When does what is the 2016
[4:26:07] lease end The lease started
[4:26:08] back in the 80s with a 70 year
[4:26:09] lease and it will be
[4:26:12] reevaluated every ten years.
[4:26:13] That's per the Civil code 718
[4:26:17] And so the next revaluation
[4:26:18] will be in 2036 and it will
[4:26:19] determine market from that
[4:26:26] point and it goes until 2050,
[4:26:27] 2056 to then applied in 2016.
[4:26:31] Did you not you know if you
[4:26:32] were here but did the city
[4:26:32] amend it?
[4:26:35] I can't speak to
[4:26:39] the negotiations at the time.
[4:26:40] Okay.
[4:26:41] We are the same path of all
[4:26:44] leases.
[4:26:47] Councilmember Santa School has
[4:26:48] about 18 different leases under
[4:26:49] negotiation Within my office
[4:26:53] we've reassign two property
[4:26:54] agents to help with that.
[4:26:58] Um, it would be great to have
[4:26:59] San Pasquale leaseholders be
[4:27:03] more communicative and that
[4:27:03] would be my ask if we could
[4:27:04] partner on that.
[4:27:07] We'd like to get some across
[4:27:08] the finish line before the end
[4:27:08] of the calendar year.
[4:27:08] Got it.
[4:27:12] Well I'm on their farms a lot
[4:27:13] and communication from them
[4:27:16] doesn't seem to be the problem
[4:27:17] so I'm happy to talk about
[4:27:17] later.
[4:27:18] I bring this up because it
[4:27:21] seems like our real estate at
[4:27:26] his department is just it's not
[4:27:26] functioning well and this is
[4:27:31] not new And the golf leases are
[4:27:32] one example.
[4:27:33] This is before Christina became
[4:27:38] the head of this And I know
[4:27:39] there's a lot of political
[4:27:40] leadership that's been a
[4:27:44] problem But the city bought one
[4:27:44] on one ash skyscraper across
[4:27:45] the street.
[4:27:48] It's still empty and real
[4:27:49] estate assets at the time and
[4:27:50] told this council it wasn't us
[4:27:53] but people before us that it
[4:27:53] needed a $10,000 power wash.
[4:27:58] What does that even mean?
[4:27:59] And I know we have leases in
[4:27:59] Balboa Park that are on hold
[4:28:00] over I know we have leases
[4:28:01] admission bay there on hold
[4:28:03] over And so part of the problem
[4:28:06] is that real estate asset only
[4:28:07] has what you said 12 to 14
[4:28:09] leasing agents for 900
[4:28:10] properties.
[4:28:10] That's correct.
[4:28:11] We have 12 property agents for
[4:28:15] our portfolio So we can I'm
[4:28:15] glad that we're doing this
[4:28:15] audit.
[4:28:19] I'm glad we're getting more
[4:28:20] money from the golf courses as
[4:28:23] we should.
[4:28:24] But the fact that someone from
[4:28:25] real estate assets negotiated a
[4:28:29] very poorly drafted provision
[4:28:29] in 2016 with the wealthiest
[4:28:33] golf course operator we have
[4:28:34] and has now locked us into less
[4:28:35] money is just another symptom
[4:28:39] of how this department is not
[4:28:40] functioning well and it's not
[4:28:43] necessarily the fault of the 12
[4:28:43] to 14 agents who were there
[4:28:44] because they're overworked and
[4:28:44] overburdened.
[4:28:48] But Mark Kersey, my
[4:28:48] predecessor, tried for his
[4:28:49] entire eight year term to get
[4:28:52] this Yampa Squaw Valley Farm
[4:28:52] leases done.
[4:28:55] I'm ending the end of my 282
[4:28:56] years or two terms and I'm
[4:28:56] still don't have them done and
[4:29:00] I've been begging for them.
[4:29:01] It's not for lack of trying And
[4:29:04] so my overall question is if
[4:29:05] the real estate assets
[4:29:06] department is a revenue
[4:29:09] generating department because
[4:29:10] obviously this audit just
[4:29:11] brought in I don't know you
[4:29:13] said 41% more so over $1
[4:29:14] million more in lease revenue
[4:29:17] I'm guessing from the Fairbanks
[4:29:23] Ranch property.
[4:29:24] >> No, it was we're paying 800
[4:29:24] something now It's paying 2.1
[4:29:29] 300 75 k per year for that
[4:29:34] particular lease.
[4:29:35] The reassessment for Fairbanks
[4:29:38] Ranch which made almost $17
[4:29:38] million was only 375 k
[4:29:43] additional dollars.
[4:29:43] I believe that's accurate.
[4:29:44] I'll defer to staff for them.
[4:29:45] Okay.
[4:29:50] That's correct.
[4:29:55] I see That's that's the problem
[4:29:55] .
[4:29:56] And so when we're having these
[4:30:00] budget hearings about staffing
[4:30:01] ,I feel like this, you know,
[4:30:05] better equipped property agents
[4:30:05] would pay for not only for
[4:30:06] themselves but could bring in
[4:30:12] even more money over the future
[4:30:12] .
[4:30:13] And Councilmember, I don't
[4:30:13] disagree with you.
[4:30:14] I think you know, there have
[4:30:17] been active discussions about
[4:30:17] how we can solve the staffing
[4:30:18] levels in real estate which
[4:30:22] includes carving off a
[4:30:23] percentage.
[4:30:23] If you look at real estate as a
[4:30:24] private business, you come in
[4:30:26] and say all right, I'm going to
[4:30:27] take 5% of my revenues and I'm
[4:30:28] gonna use it to manage my
[4:30:31] portfolio.
[4:30:32] We've looked at that.
[4:30:32] The problem with looking at
[4:30:33] that and doing that is we're
[4:30:34] taking millions of dollars
[4:30:37] potentially I don't quote me on
[4:30:37] the exact number but we're
[4:30:38] taking money away from
[4:30:39] the general fund that otherwise
[4:30:42] would go to other resources.
[4:30:42] So having this discussion right
[4:30:43] now is good but it's also not a
[4:30:46] good time to have that
[4:30:47] discussion because if we were
[4:30:48] to bring forward a proposal to
[4:30:50] say we're going to take 3 to 5%
[4:30:51] of the entire real estate
[4:30:52] portfolio and allocated towards
[4:30:55] property agents, that means
[4:30:56] less money coming into
[4:30:57] the general fund to pay for
[4:31:00] restrooms and other things.
[4:31:01] So you know, it really is about
[4:31:05] where the priorities are at and
[4:31:06] we've batted around different
[4:31:06] proposals over the years.
[4:31:10] I'm happy to have further
[4:31:10] discussions with you and
[4:31:11] the rest of Council on a
[4:31:12] proposal that would look like
[4:31:15] that.
[4:31:16] But the reality is is it would
[4:31:17] take money away from other
[4:31:20] general fund services.
[4:31:20] It would but the goal is
[4:31:21] the people you bring in would
[4:31:25] generate more money than it
[4:31:25] would take away.
[4:31:26] It's much more money.
[4:31:30] Yeah, I don't I don't disagree
[4:31:30] with you on that.
[4:31:31] >> I don't And that's the long
[4:31:35] term vision I'm seeking from
[4:31:35] the city administration.
[4:31:40] These problems are not new and
[4:31:40] but when we do the budget we
[4:31:41] sit here and we ask if you're
[4:31:42] understaffed and how we can
[4:31:44] help and there's just no real
[4:31:45] plan to put it on the right
[4:31:45] track.
[4:31:52] So basically to have it I am
[4:31:53] but a council member I can't
[4:31:55] force the Health administration
[4:31:56] to change everything I can just
[4:32:00] budget where I can So thank you
[4:32:01] for the audit.
[4:32:02] Hopefully we can do better and
[4:32:06] hopefully we can actually staff
[4:32:07] properly a real estate assets
[4:32:07] department so that we can
[4:32:10] maximize the leases that
[4:32:11] Councilmember Eli Rivera is
[4:32:12] talking about which are some of
[4:32:13] the most beautiful places in
[4:32:15] the world And yet we're not
[4:32:16] able to even maintain them.
[4:32:21] So thank you.
[4:32:22] All right.
[4:32:22] Thank you.
[4:32:23] You have some fun.
[4:32:24] Well, we'll go next to
[4:32:26] Councilmember Campion.
[4:32:27] Thank you, council PRESIDENT.
[4:32:28] Thank you to our city out here
[4:32:28] for good work.
[4:32:31] I just want to ask a basic
[4:32:32] question as well.
[4:32:36] The lessee revenue what do we
[4:32:37] what do we verify that against?
[4:32:38] We look at their entire payroll
[4:32:41] or their excuse me their entire
[4:32:42] set of income.
[4:32:42] Is it different between
[4:32:47] different lessees?
[4:32:48] I just want to make sure that
[4:32:49] we're actually getting
[4:32:49] the amount of money they're
[4:32:52] bringing in and actually
[4:32:53] holding them to the percentage
[4:32:53] that are in their contracts
[4:32:58] because a lot of times even
[4:32:58] that math sometimes falls
[4:32:59] through the floor.
[4:33:03] How do we verify what they're
[4:33:03] the revenue that's coming in
[4:33:04] and that we're actually
[4:33:08] collecting the right amount?
[4:33:09] Councilmember I can take a
[4:33:10] swing at that part Pardon
[4:33:14] the horrible intentional pun
[4:33:14] And so the revenue audits are
[4:33:15] conducted by the Treasurer's by
[4:33:16] the by the city attorney's
[4:33:20] office And so when they do
[4:33:20] revenue audits it would depend
[4:33:21] on the categories that are in
[4:33:22] there but they do go in and
[4:33:25] review the books for those.
[4:33:26] One of the things that and
[4:33:31] again thanks to MR. Howard from
[4:33:31] golf one of the one of
[4:33:32] the things about enhancing
[4:33:36] the amount of the type of
[4:33:36] performance data that we get
[4:33:37] from them is it would help
[4:33:37] verify revenue.
[4:33:42] There's certain things that
[4:33:43] that they can that Golf
[4:33:43] division currently does that we
[4:33:44] don't ask of our lessees to
[4:33:47] triangulate the amount of
[4:33:48] revenue and ensure that we're
[4:33:48] collecting the amount that we
[4:33:49] are Regarding the specifics of
[4:33:53] how they do revenue audits, I
[4:33:53] would defer to
[4:33:54] the administration on that but
[4:33:55] that's a separate division that
[4:33:55] does that.
[4:33:58] They do that throughout
[4:33:59] the city for example in Mission
[4:33:59] Bay etc. So they do those
[4:34:00] revenue audits periodically for
[4:34:05] all all leaseholders that have
[4:34:05] a revenue split agreement with
[4:34:06] the city.
[4:34:10] Okay.
[4:34:11] I figure if we're not
[4:34:11] inspecting the golf courses
[4:34:12] themselves regularly and their
[4:34:15] inspector books accordingly so
[4:34:16] do we have does it look like
[4:34:24] that happens every single year
[4:34:24] ?
[4:34:25] Thank you Councilmember.
[4:34:26] So one of the things that we
[4:34:31] instituted with the update of
[4:34:32] the council policies on 1012
[4:34:37] and 32 was the frequency to
[4:34:37] which the audits would occur
[4:34:38] and that the city Treasurer's
[4:34:39] office and economic development
[4:34:43] would work on a work plan of
[4:34:44] what are the leases that are
[4:34:44] coming up that are within their
[4:34:48] lease time frame not only in
[4:34:49] the annual audit but then to
[4:34:50] ensure that the audit is
[4:34:55] reflecting what rent should be
[4:34:55] collected.
[4:34:56] That's been very successful
[4:34:56] over the last two fiscal years
[4:35:00] in that partnership and again
[4:35:01] I'd love to remember
[4:35:02] the council that the books were
[4:35:06] in bad shape in terms of where
[4:35:07] things were cataloged Within
[4:35:07] our system we've upgraded our
[4:35:08] system.
[4:35:08] We've put a lot of internal
[4:35:13] controls in place so that
[4:35:14] revenue is categorized
[4:35:15] appropriately per
[4:35:15] the leaseholds.
[4:35:18] All of this has been remedied
[4:35:19] really in the last 18 months
[4:35:20] And so what we're seeing now is
[4:35:25] accuracy within that audit.
[4:35:26] It occurred prior to those
[4:35:26] controls being in place.
[4:35:29] So this was calendar year 21
[4:35:30] through 24.
[4:35:30] All of those controls are
[4:35:31] actively in place and working
[4:35:36] collectively to ensure the city
[4:35:37] is receiving the revenue that
[4:35:37] it should.
[4:35:38] >> Okay, that lessons was very
[4:35:38] important.
[4:35:42] I appreciate the good work on
[4:35:42] that.
[4:35:43] Thank you.
[4:35:43] Thanks, PRESIDENT.
[4:35:44] All right.
[4:35:44] Thank you.
[4:35:45] Council member Campi.
[4:35:45] We'll go next to Councilmember
[4:35:46] Foster.
[4:35:52] Yes, I guess I will Thank you
[4:35:57] for audit.
[4:35:58] Thank you.
[4:35:59] You know for my colleagues in
[4:36:01] their in their questions and
[4:36:08] their concern.
[4:36:09] I guess what I'm struggling
[4:36:14] with is I feel as if we throw
[4:36:15] we say we have a contract that
[4:36:20] was put in place 20 years ago
[4:36:25] or whatever the case MAY be and
[4:36:26] we continue to operate and
[4:36:31] function within these within
[4:36:31] state contract.
[4:36:32] But it seems like we are
[4:36:33] constantly running into an
[4:36:38] issue with these.
[4:36:39] I'm a common like a check on
[4:36:40] legacy contracts or whatever
[4:36:40] you want to call them on but
[4:36:43] typically every contract that
[4:36:44] I've dealt with over the years
[4:36:49] there's clauses to exit
[4:36:49] the contract And I guess I'm
[4:36:55] not necessarily understanding
[4:36:56] as we are the city of San Diego
[4:37:01] when we we do business with
[4:37:02] certain groups to where I feel
[4:37:07] they dictate how we do business
[4:37:08] versus us being the city of San
[4:37:12] Diego, the second largest city
[4:37:12] in the state and being in a
[4:37:18] position to Gucci better terms
[4:37:19] we're not negotiating for you
[4:37:24] MR. Smith, or for the mayor.
[4:37:25] We're negotiating on behalf of
[4:37:25] the residents, on behalf of our
[4:37:31] taxpayers And it seems we don't
[4:37:31] go in with the proper position
[4:37:42] or goal to maximize our
[4:37:42] opportunities in their best
[4:37:43] interest And I think that is
[4:37:48] really a theme that I struggle
[4:37:48] with especially coming from
[4:37:54] the industry that I came from
[4:37:55] certain organizations I work
[4:37:55] for.
[4:37:56] You signed a contract.
[4:38:00] The contract was very well
[4:38:01] written and very well written
[4:38:02] to where I could look at
[4:38:02] someone to say I'm going to
[4:38:07] turn you up So if you don't do
[4:38:08] what I say do I'm going to turn
[4:38:08] you upside down and shake you
[4:38:09] until nothing falls out of your
[4:38:12] pockets.
[4:38:13] But let me and I'm just
[4:38:18] confused and and so can you
[4:38:19] help me to understand And even
[4:38:23] if we go through and we have an
[4:38:24] agreement you go from 5% to 7%
[4:38:30] but yet there are still from if
[4:38:31] I understand the numbers that
[4:38:31] were presented in this audit
[4:38:35] even with that percentage
[4:38:36] change, they are still
[4:38:41] profiting substantially.
[4:38:42] And yet my colleague in
[4:38:47] District nine has no restroom
[4:38:48] And I think there's a you know,
[4:38:54] we just went through a series
[4:38:55] of conversations and everyone
[4:38:55] wanted to go to bat and fight
[4:39:00] for restrooms at Bishan Beach
[4:39:06] which I understand but I don't
[4:39:07] have restrooms at my parks in
[4:39:12] my community And so can you
[4:39:13] help me to understand how we
[4:39:13] have this long term lease?
[4:39:14] What types of provisions are on
[4:39:18] their why are we not taking a
[4:39:19] different position and looking
[4:39:23] to change?
[4:39:24] I'm not understanding.
[4:39:25] The other question I have is
[4:39:25] and I think it was very
[4:39:29] specific on when I would
[4:39:30] oftentimes I talk about
[4:39:31] understanding our book of
[4:39:36] business and I'm a little taken
[4:39:36] back that we have not if we
[4:39:41] have however many holdover
[4:39:42] leases we have, why are we not
[4:39:43] understanding what those are
[4:39:45] prioritizing accordingly so
[4:39:46] that we are maximizing our
[4:39:52] return?
[4:39:53] If I understand the way you
[4:39:54] answered that question on
[4:39:57] Casey, it seems as if we don't
[4:39:58] have that type of thought out
[4:39:59] process in place so that we are
[4:40:04] approaching this from a very
[4:40:09] informed intentional way so
[4:40:10] that as we are having our
[4:40:15] budget conversations that we
[4:40:16] are maximizing opportunities to
[4:40:21] better serve the residents of
[4:40:21] the city of San Diego.
[4:40:22] If someone can help me to
[4:40:27] understand that because I think
[4:40:27] the line of questioning of hey,
[4:40:28] where does the mayor stand on
[4:40:33] this Because again I'm going to
[4:40:34] go back to these are
[4:40:34] the inherent problems of a
[4:40:43] strong mayor form of government
[4:40:43] because I think everyone's
[4:40:44] attitude would be different
[4:40:48] when we have a conversation
[4:40:49] about is the operations in line
[4:40:54] with the council.
[4:40:55] If we had a city manager that
[4:40:56] reported to the council I think
[4:40:58] our conversations I would like
[4:41:04] to think would be different.
[4:41:05] So if someone can help me to
[4:41:06] understand because I've been
[4:41:09] here two years I haven't been
[4:41:10] here eight but I know if I've
[4:41:11] been asking for something for
[4:41:12] eight years and I didn't get it
[4:41:15] no conversation would be
[4:41:15] pleasant.
[4:41:21] Not one So help me to
[4:41:22] understand it.
[4:41:22] Matter of fact eight plus eight
[4:41:26] is my math is 16 so help me to
[4:41:31] understand please.
[4:41:32] >> If I could maybe address
[4:41:33] your first question about
[4:41:38] the contracts and why perhaps
[4:41:38] they're different in a real
[4:41:39] property solution.
[4:41:39] It is not as simple as a
[4:41:40] contract where there are
[4:41:43] termination clauses.
[4:41:44] I would love to say that each
[4:41:45] of our leases have a
[4:41:45] termination clause.
[4:41:50] I can tell you right now they
[4:41:51] don't looking across the entire
[4:41:51] portfolio.
[4:41:54] So issue number one issue
[4:41:54] number two, it's not a contract
[4:41:55] for services in the same way
[4:42:00] that delivery doesn't happen
[4:42:01] when you have real property.
[4:42:01] There are technically property
[4:42:02] rights associated with
[4:42:06] the lease that then likely have
[4:42:07] remedies default clauses.
[4:42:08] All of those have to be
[4:42:12] exercised in order for us to
[4:42:13] completely disrupt and then
[4:42:13] prove that they truly are out
[4:42:18] of compliance with their lease.
[4:42:19] We have several of those we are
[4:42:20] pursuing right now.
[4:42:24] Additionally with we the way
[4:42:25] that the department has been
[4:42:25] restructured within economic
[4:42:30] development we have put
[4:42:30] together a work plan.
[4:42:31] We have put together a
[4:42:32] strategic memo prioritizing
[4:42:36] revenue generating sites that
[4:42:37] were either in holdover or not
[4:42:37] maximizing the city's
[4:42:38] potential.
[4:42:42] We are actively working through
[4:42:43] those to date.
[4:42:43] I'll defer to the mayor's
[4:42:44] office to speak to the other
[4:42:47] question but I wanted you to
[4:42:48] know it's not as simple
[4:42:49] potentially as some MAY
[4:42:49] perceive about contracts
[4:42:54] termination based on general
[4:42:55] performance, real property
[4:42:56] contracts like leases, licenses
[4:42:57] etc. They are different.
[4:43:04] >> So thank you I think
[4:43:05] Councilmember if you'd like I
[4:43:06] can take that question about
[4:43:06] how we reposition
[4:43:07] the department to focus on
[4:43:10] revenue generating
[4:43:10] opportunities.
[4:43:11] You know Christina and team
[4:43:12] have a very robust work plan.
[4:43:15] That work plan is based It is
[4:43:16] really looking at tackling
[4:43:17] revenue generating
[4:43:17] opportunities, leases and
[4:43:21] holdover and trying to balance
[4:43:22] that to see what is going to
[4:43:23] generate what can we focus on
[4:43:23] that's going to generate
[4:43:27] the most return on investment
[4:43:27] for the city.
[4:43:28] So we do collectively look at
[4:43:28] that.
[4:43:29] That is something that her and
[4:43:32] her team actively work on and
[4:43:33] they do have clear direction
[4:43:34] and we've got plenty of
[4:43:39] examples of we can point to
[4:43:40] where we've been trying to
[4:43:40] focus on that.
[4:43:41] >> So how does the public hold
[4:43:45] the mirror accountable?
[4:43:46] What information do you have on
[4:43:46] the website?
[4:43:51] What transparency do you have?
[4:43:52] Do you have a place to go to
[4:43:53] where every single lease is
[4:43:53] indicated?
[4:43:57] How do we do this?
[4:43:58] I can't and I guess I ask this
[4:43:59] question I'm asked this
[4:44:04] question because we have
[4:44:04] the audit It's my understanding
[4:44:05] you went through negotiated
[4:44:09] whatever terms you
[4:44:09] renegotiated.
[4:44:10] I don't think any of us have
[4:44:10] seen it.
[4:44:11] I didn't receive a briefing on
[4:44:11] it.
[4:44:15] I don't know if you call my
[4:44:16] office or not as we've been on
[4:44:16] legislative recess but now
[4:44:17] we've gone through if I
[4:44:22] understand you correctly put a
[4:44:23] new updated release in
[4:44:27] the course whatever those bad
[4:44:28] terms are and no one saw it.
[4:44:29] Did you see it?
[4:44:34] Did the city auditor see it?
[4:44:35] Did you guys get consulted
[4:44:36] before everyone text on
[4:44:39] the dotted line or again it was
[4:44:40] the mayor in the room in
[4:44:45] negotiating.
[4:44:45] So those are market
[4:44:46] readjustments.
[4:44:47] They're different than bringing
[4:44:47] forward the leases.
[4:44:50] So the other leases in the Gulf
[4:44:51] portfolio related to this audit
[4:44:51] that are underway in
[4:44:52] negotiation, this council will
[4:44:57] have the opportunity to vote on
[4:44:58] all of those and see
[4:44:58] the negotiated terms and see
[4:44:59] the increase in revenue that
[4:45:00] we've been successfully
[4:45:03] negotiating over the last few
[4:45:03] months.
[4:45:04] So that's the process for
[4:45:04] council and none of the leases
[4:45:05] that we are currently
[4:45:08] negotiating or short term
[4:45:09] leases which then fall under a
[4:45:09] three year period or less all
[4:45:14] of these are longer term leases
[4:45:14] with an exchange to create
[4:45:15] revenue and operate maintain a
[4:45:16] city golf course to
[4:45:20] the standard the city demands.
[4:45:21] And I do appreciate the audit
[4:45:21] from the auditor because we do
[4:45:22] want more performance.
[4:45:26] Very few of our leases today
[4:45:27] have performance indicators at
[4:45:28] all whereas if you look at
[4:45:32] the nonprofit contracts that
[4:45:32] the department manages we have
[4:45:33] a lot of performance metrics so
[4:45:34] we're happy to have that
[4:45:38] partnership and work alongside
[4:45:39] the golf division to improve
[4:45:39] that going forward.
[4:45:44] But that's I appreciate that I
[4:45:45] still I still have to take
[4:45:50] issue with the response because
[4:45:51] again I'm going to go back to
[4:45:51] any contract that is done is
[4:45:56] put in place by us And so good,
[4:45:57] bad or indifferent a bad
[4:46:02] contract is a bad contract And
[4:46:03] if we are continuing to operate
[4:46:07] and you are working I guess
[4:46:08] I'll call it a silo to where we
[4:46:09] don't have the true
[4:46:13] transparency I don't think it's
[4:46:14] our responsibility to go out
[4:46:19] and explain to individuals that
[4:46:20] bad contract to explain to
[4:46:20] individuals all of those
[4:46:21] issues.
[4:46:26] That's the job of operations is
[4:46:27] the same way the mayor tells us
[4:46:28] who we can call and talk to who
[4:46:32] we cannot.
[4:46:32] >> Right.
[4:46:33] I forgot to mention
[4:46:33] the transparency part was a
[4:46:34] really key component.
[4:46:37] I would love this council to
[4:46:38] know One of the things that
[4:46:39] the department spent an
[4:46:39] exorbitant amount of time
[4:46:44] producing is the leases,
[4:46:45] the amendments and various
[4:46:45] different These documents we
[4:46:50] are making those available and
[4:46:50] working with the end in it to
[4:46:56] ensure that the public has all
[4:46:56] of the agreements right now
[4:46:57] they don't the easiest way they
[4:46:58] can get them is the praise this
[4:47:02] will advance the ability for
[4:47:03] people to do their own searches
[4:47:04] in the same way that special
[4:47:04] use permit are available on
[4:47:08] the website to I.
[4:47:14] I hate to say this but as bad
[4:47:14] as this is the public should
[4:47:20] not have to pray again this is
[4:47:20] taxpayer dollars and we are
[4:47:26] going to what's the term owners
[4:47:27] it's it's it's we're putting
[4:47:27] another level on them to figure
[4:47:31] out how the mayors is
[4:47:37] protecting their dollars and to
[4:47:38] say hey let's just do a pray.
[4:47:39] >> I don't think that's
[4:47:44] the appropriate response.
[4:47:45] Forgive me that wasn't what I
[4:47:45] was if my wording wasn't
[4:47:46] correct.
[4:47:50] We are getting an overabundance
[4:47:50] of yours to request
[4:47:51] the existing leases because
[4:47:52] they're not available.
[4:47:56] They're not attainable and
[4:47:56] they're not searchable.
[4:47:57] We're making that readily
[4:47:58] accessible for the entire
[4:47:58] portfolio.
[4:48:03] So forgive me if I wasn't clear
[4:48:04] that that is what we mean.
[4:48:05] So what's our timeframe for
[4:48:05] that?
[4:48:08] Actually it should be up again
[4:48:08] the next month.
[4:48:09] So Councilmember, I'll just
[4:48:10] note a lot of the leases are
[4:48:14] already online as attachments
[4:48:15] to the council committee
[4:48:16] meetings When the council files
[4:48:16] when they were approved.
[4:48:20] It's a it's a roundabout way to
[4:48:20] getting it.
[4:48:21] It's not a good user interface
[4:48:22] but I don't want there to be a
[4:48:23] perception that the leases are
[4:48:27] not available at some point to
[4:48:27] the public only accessible
[4:48:28] through appeal.
[4:48:28] >> Right.
[4:48:31] I can appreciate that But again
[4:48:32] that's a bureaucratic that's a
[4:48:38] bureaucratic approach already I
[4:48:39] think I heard my time run out
[4:48:44] on council PRESIDENT I will end
[4:48:45] here But again I have to say we
[4:48:50] need to find a way to deal with
[4:48:51] this in a more efficient
[4:48:51] manner.
[4:48:56] I don't know.
[4:48:56] The city attorney needs to get
[4:48:57] involved but at some point we
[4:49:01] need to take a different
[4:49:02] position and approach And so
[4:49:02] I'll be pushing out to make
[4:49:08] sure we do that as we move
[4:49:09] forward.
[4:49:09] Thank you.
[4:49:09] All right.
[4:49:10] Thank you, Governor Foster.
[4:49:11] I'll go to Councilmember
[4:49:12] Whitman.
[4:49:13] Thank you very much.
[4:49:13] Council PRESIDENT.
[4:49:19] We absolutely need to make sure
[4:49:20] to maximize revenues in our
[4:49:20] city.
[4:49:24] We absolutely need to eliminate
[4:49:30] disparities And I'll tell you
[4:49:30] the person I'm most unhappy
[4:49:31] with, the person I'm most
[4:49:36] unhappy with is the mayor who
[4:49:36] originally signed this lease
[4:49:41] who signed on the dotted line
[4:49:42] to commit this city to a
[4:49:43] sweetheart deal a deal that we
[4:49:44] have been stuck with for
[4:49:48] decades and we will continue to
[4:49:48] be stuck with for decades and
[4:49:49] we will be stuck with this
[4:49:53] until it ends.
[4:49:54] And the mayor who signed on
[4:49:56] the dotted line was Mayor
[4:50:01] People.
[4:50:07] >> So let's make that clear.
[4:50:12] This is not a holdover release
[4:50:13] .
[4:50:14] It's not a lease that has
[4:50:14] expired and that we have an
[4:50:18] opportunity to renegotiate.
[4:50:19] >> It is an act of current
[4:50:19] lease and we're stuck with this
[4:50:23] act of current lease until
[4:50:24] the end of the act of current
[4:50:24] lease.
[4:50:25] But we do have an opportunity
[4:50:26] to do is revisit it
[4:50:28] periodically and update
[4:50:34] the terms and I appreciate
[4:50:35] the recent efforts to do that
[4:50:40] and I know the as future
[4:50:40] opportunities come up we'll
[4:50:41] continue to do our best to
[4:50:42] maximize the revenue available
[4:50:45] to us.
[4:50:46] Thank you.
[4:50:46] Council PRESIDENT.
[4:50:46] All right.
[4:50:47] Thank you.
[4:50:50] Council member Whitburn Only
[4:50:51] one item on this afternoon's
[4:50:51] agenda.
[4:50:55] I want to jump in now.
[4:50:56] Nobody else is on the lights.
[4:50:57] Thank you Andy and the entire
[4:51:01] team for the audit work And I
[4:51:06] know this was we're hearing
[4:51:06] this today from you.
[4:51:07] This was heard previously by
[4:51:08] the audit committee and I think
[4:51:12] was available in the spring And
[4:51:12] I think it actually inspired
[4:51:13] some conversations during
[4:51:17] the budget budget cycle not not
[4:51:18] a lot of room to maneuver but I
[4:51:23] think it was very formative and
[4:51:23] continues to emphasize why
[4:51:24] having an independent city
[4:51:25] auditor is a good thing for for
[4:51:31] all of us that my my colleagues
[4:51:36] covered a lot of ground and in
[4:51:36] fact we probably covered a lot
[4:51:37] more ground than the audit in
[4:51:40] front of us.
[4:51:41] And so I'm going to start out
[4:51:46] by suggesting that one of
[4:51:47] the council committees think
[4:51:51] about how this item that I
[4:51:52] think everybody is focused on
[4:51:56] So less than the audit itself
[4:51:56] than the larger questions and
[4:51:57] whether it's the air land use
[4:52:00] and housing or budget where we
[4:52:05] perhaps can have dig in a
[4:52:06] little bit deeper and have a
[4:52:07] better conversation about where
[4:52:11] we are and where we're going.
[4:52:12] I'm going to ask just one
[4:52:16] question of you for context.
[4:52:16] One Was real estate folded into
[4:52:20] economic development Officially
[4:52:25] within the fiscal year 25
[4:52:26] budget season I became director
[4:52:30] of both departments in NOVEMBER
[4:52:31] of 23.
[4:52:31] >> Okay.
[4:52:35] I'd just like to remind people
[4:52:35] of that time and what you
[4:52:36] inherited and the reason it was
[4:52:39] folded in and the work that you
[4:52:47] and your staff have done which
[4:52:47] we're still in difficult
[4:52:48] positions, you're still doing a
[4:52:48] lot of catch up.
[4:52:52] You still don't have the staff
[4:52:53] to go back with all the old
[4:52:56] leases and relook at them.
[4:52:57] But I didn't want this moment
[4:52:58] to pass without recognizing
[4:53:01] that good work And then we come
[4:53:02] up with new things for you to
[4:53:03] work on which I'll go remain
[4:53:06] nameless and to the point that
[4:53:11] that Councilmember Whitburn
[4:53:12] raised in a couple of my
[4:53:16] colleagues raised this was done
[4:53:16] in 2016.
[4:53:17] This is not the original lease
[4:53:18] that you were referring to with
[4:53:21] Pete Wilson but 2016 which is
[4:53:26] really what sets the bar for us
[4:53:26] which also was when surf up
[4:53:30] another problematic lease that
[4:53:35] we have to deal with And it is
[4:53:36] done as good a job as you can
[4:53:37] within the confines of that
[4:53:40] lease language that I remember
[4:53:40] Councilmember Leitner voted
[4:53:44] against.
[4:53:45] I think the skydiving center
[4:53:46] falls somewhere in there and
[4:53:48] one on one ash fall somewhere
[4:53:49] in there seems to be a little
[4:53:53] bit of a pattern of things that
[4:53:54] not as excuses We're here now
[4:53:54] It's our job to make things
[4:53:58] right and do the best we can
[4:53:58] But it doesn't.
[4:54:03] It makes me think twice about
[4:54:03] it to the point that was well
[4:54:08] for the audit team the table
[4:54:09] you preside which shows all
[4:54:13] this golf course leases on city
[4:54:17] on the percentage is all over
[4:54:17] the map and they don't
[4:54:18] necessarily see the city in
[4:54:22] what it can do as to being
[4:54:26] the market and I suspect that
[4:54:27] there's a different story for
[4:54:30] each lease and why there is one
[4:54:31] at 1% and there's one at 25%
[4:54:36] and it would be nice to say why
[4:54:39] can't they all be 25% their Is
[4:54:40] there anything in the work that
[4:54:45] you did so far Because I we
[4:54:45] always have conversations about
[4:54:48] what your job is as an auditor,
[4:54:49] a performance auditor.
[4:54:50] Was there any look about why
[4:54:53] there was such that wide range
[4:54:54] was a just that was a deal that
[4:54:55] was cut with that leaseholder
[4:54:59] on that particular day or
[4:54:59] you're talking about
[4:55:00] the Fairbanks furniture All of
[4:55:03] them All of them I mean if
[4:55:04] we're trying to say what it
[4:55:05] should be based on that table
[4:55:08] well we again I think I
[4:55:09] mentioned this whom we talk
[4:55:13] about we're not appraisers.
[4:55:13] Right.
[4:55:14] You know, we use that example
[4:55:15] at 20% because it's a little
[4:55:18] bit less than the most
[4:55:18] comparable courses which are
[4:55:25] technology and mission trails.
[4:55:26] If you look at that if you look
[4:55:27] at that list if you remember it
[4:55:27] Vineyard I think there was a
[4:55:30] public commenter mentioned we
[4:55:31] only owned half of that course
[4:55:33] so we get 11% but that's only
[4:55:34] for half the course.
[4:55:38] Carlton Oaks same thing We only
[4:55:39] own half of that.
[4:55:41] We get 9% even though we only
[4:55:46] own half of it.
[4:55:47] So again we're not appraisers
[4:55:51] and this MAY be the best that
[4:55:51] can be done with the deal that
[4:55:55] was struck in 2016, you know
[4:55:57] that has certain limits on what
[4:56:02] they can use.
[4:56:03] But I just think it is notable
[4:56:07] in some way, you know, either
[4:56:08] it's 2016 or you know, maybe
[4:56:12] there's a little more room for
[4:56:13] something now And so I think
[4:56:13] it's worth discussing.
[4:56:13] Sure.
[4:56:16] No, I completely agree And
[4:56:17] without stepping on the toes of
[4:56:21] my colleagues we probably
[4:56:22] shouldn't leap too much on
[4:56:25] the variety on that table And
[4:56:26] of course we would want
[4:56:27] the high end.
[4:56:30] But as we're all talking we
[4:56:31] have legacy leases that were
[4:56:35] kind of have to be stuck with
[4:56:36] One of the things I was hoping
[4:56:36] with that would come out of
[4:56:37] the conversation is
[4:56:40] the condition of our city
[4:56:41] managed golf courses versus
[4:56:41] these nonprofits.
[4:56:45] I don't MR. Howard would you
[4:56:45] because I think some question
[4:56:46] has been maybe we ought to take
[4:56:50] back these without speaking to
[4:56:50] the legality of that But
[4:56:55] whether we should take back how
[4:56:55] good what is the condition of
[4:56:59] these leased golf courses
[4:57:00] compared to what you manage on
[4:57:04] a day to day basis?
[4:57:04] No.
[4:57:05] Well thank you for the question
[4:57:08] Once again, my name is John
[4:57:09] Howard, Deputy Director.
[4:57:09] All of these courses are
[4:57:12] actually very different from
[4:57:13] one to the next.
[4:57:14] So when you look at Torrey
[4:57:17] Pines there is obviously a high
[4:57:18] end golf course But when we
[4:57:23] start talking about some of
[4:57:24] these executives like tech
[4:57:24] technology mission trails,
[4:57:27] those are going to be very
[4:57:27] different.
[4:57:28] So I think we really have to
[4:57:28] think about what are
[4:57:31] the expectations for each one
[4:57:32] of those golf courses.
[4:57:32] Fair enough.
[4:57:36] I think that's a very generous
[4:57:37] answer.
[4:57:37] But I think the reality is is
[4:57:38] that they are very different
[4:57:42] golf courses and whereas
[4:57:42] Fairbanks Ranch you might
[4:57:43] expect might be at the highest
[4:57:46] quality Presidio probably
[4:57:47] hovers around the bottom there
[4:57:51] and that's a whole other
[4:57:52] conversation going forward And
[4:57:52] I think technology is closed
[4:57:56] right because of the massive
[4:57:56] sewer project there.
[4:58:01] So do we know when technology
[4:58:01] is coming back online?
[4:58:02] >> Yeah.
[4:58:06] Currently we're in the process
[4:58:06] right now of working with
[4:58:07] economic development to get a
[4:58:10] long term lease there.
[4:58:11] We are working with one of
[4:58:15] the partners to be able to take
[4:58:15] over operations.
[4:58:16] Since MARCH 1st the Golf
[4:58:16] division has been managing that
[4:58:20] property.
[4:58:21] Construction is scheduled to be
[4:58:25] complete by I believe SEPTEMBER
[4:58:25] 14th.
[4:58:30] So there will be a a little bit
[4:58:30] of a break in between
[4:58:31] construction and reopening.
[4:58:34] But we are going to wait until
[4:58:35] there's a long term lease in
[4:58:35] place.
[4:58:36] Okay, great.
[4:58:36] Thank you.
[4:58:39] Well, thank you for the amazing
[4:58:40] work.
[4:58:41] It's I think a very big point
[4:58:42] of pride Torrey Pines I mean
[4:58:45] that small golf course that is
[4:58:46] hosted the us Open and is
[4:58:49] the envy of every other private
[4:58:50] golf course as well as every
[4:58:50] other municipality And a large
[4:58:54] tribute to you and the entire
[4:58:54] golf division.
[4:58:59] So thank you for that.
[4:59:00] You know, I'm trying to figure
[4:59:00] out what I can add to this
[4:59:01] lengthy conversation and
[4:59:04] the comments of of my
[4:59:04] colleagues.
[4:59:08] I guess to the point and I'm
[4:59:09] going to ask you, Casey,
[4:59:10] because I think most people are
[4:59:13] have just about done an 18 hole
[4:59:14] golf course coming up and down
[4:59:17] from there.
[4:59:23] Point that was raised by my
[4:59:23] colleagues in terms of
[4:59:27] the investment in terms of
[4:59:28] investing in resources to move
[4:59:33] quicker on leaseholds, whether
[4:59:33] they're in carryover, whether
[4:59:37] they're ready to expire and we
[4:59:38] should think about whether to
[4:59:42] renew or to go back out.
[4:59:43] You've kind of suggested that
[4:59:44] that kind of analysis has been
[4:59:46] done and doesn't seem to be
[4:59:47] It's never reached a tipping
[4:59:48] point where we ought to invest
[4:59:53] more in it Indeed staff or I
[4:59:57] think you know, counsels fully
[4:59:58] aware of this You know it is a
[5:00:02] general fund department.
[5:00:03] You know we are able to bill
[5:00:03] for some of the work we do on
[5:00:04] pad leases and enterprise
[5:00:07] leases but it is a general fund
[5:00:08] department and it's essentially
[5:00:08] as long as I've been with
[5:00:11] the city been treated just like
[5:00:12] a general fund department, you
[5:00:13] know, no different than you
[5:00:16] know, when budget reductions
[5:00:16] are requested.
[5:00:17] You know every general fund
[5:00:21] department is is you know,
[5:00:21] assigned a percentage to hit,
[5:00:25] you know, 2 or 3% reductions.
[5:00:26] We had reductions in this past
[5:00:29] fiscal year previous years
[5:00:30] they've seen reductions.
[5:00:30] So you know, I don't think
[5:00:31] we've added to that department
[5:00:33] in many years.
[5:00:34] I think you know, what I'm
[5:00:35] hearing from council is a
[5:00:38] desire to put more investment
[5:00:39] into the real estate side of
[5:00:43] the house and I'm happy to work
[5:00:44] on a proposal to bring that
[5:00:44] forward.
[5:00:45] I think there are risks
[5:00:48] associated with that which
[5:00:49] would be, you know, potential
[5:00:49] reductions in other areas of
[5:00:50] the general fund in order to
[5:00:53] support that.
[5:00:54] You know, we're talking you
[5:00:55] know, I don't have a number off
[5:00:58] the top of my head but it is a
[5:00:59] percentage of the revenue that
[5:00:59] we bring in on the general fund
[5:01:02] side that we would essentially
[5:01:03] hold back to preserve and build
[5:01:08] staff within the department to
[5:01:09] address the backlog of leases
[5:01:09] that you know, have been there
[5:01:13] for decades frankly.
[5:01:13] Okay.
[5:01:14] I'm trying to get one last
[5:01:17] question.
[5:01:18] One of the things my staff
[5:01:19] hears me say often I heard I
[5:01:22] thought I remember wasn't so
[5:01:22] correct me if I'm wrong I could
[5:01:27] very well be wrong.
[5:01:27] I thought there was some
[5:01:28] conversation about actually
[5:01:31] going outside to help catch up
[5:01:32] that we actually had some
[5:01:32] conversations with maybe meaa
[5:01:37] to navigate that we decided
[5:01:37] that wasn't productive.
[5:01:38] I think most people are going
[5:01:43] to jump out of her chair so
[5:01:43] let's we're talking about our
[5:01:44] property management.
[5:01:45] >> So it was our property
[5:01:45] management.
[5:01:46] Okay.
[5:01:46] Yes.
[5:01:47] To augment the resources that
[5:01:51] we had we put together an rfq
[5:01:51] build bench So we do have
[5:01:52] consultants available to us
[5:01:56] ready to roll out ab 339 slowed
[5:01:57] us up a bit So we've had to go
[5:02:01] through a lot more of the kind
[5:02:01] of process but we're just now
[5:02:06] on the other side of that So
[5:02:06] the first one we're rolling out
[5:02:07] actually benefits Puddy.
[5:02:10] We did a mini scope for five of
[5:02:11] the leases that are in Holdover
[5:02:12] and we're actively putting that
[5:02:15] out to shop it.
[5:02:16] So we are getting some support
[5:02:17] and nea has been very generous
[5:02:20] working with us for a time
[5:02:21] period to allow us to try to
[5:02:21] catch up and bring additional
[5:02:24] resources to bear.
[5:02:25] >> So we are we're finally
[5:02:25] getting there.
[5:02:26] Okay.
[5:02:26] It's good.
[5:02:29] I'm glad we got that kind of on
[5:02:33] the record And I know I have
[5:02:34] council members.
[5:02:34] We often don't care Public
[5:02:39] certainly doesn't care But
[5:02:39] there's even this point about a
[5:02:40] new state law that says okay,
[5:02:41] you got to stop what you're
[5:02:43] doing, deal with this new law
[5:02:44] and how it interferes with our
[5:02:48] operations doesn't help us And
[5:02:49] so we try to crawl our way out
[5:02:52] of some of these holes that
[5:02:53] the prior administrations
[5:02:57] handed over to us.
[5:02:58] But I think I'm going to stop
[5:02:58] there.
[5:02:59] I think we've talked in and
[5:03:02] around it but again I continue
[5:03:03] to encourage my committee
[5:03:07] chairs are I don't for my
[5:03:07] committee chairs but there are
[5:03:08] committee chairs to think about
[5:03:12] which committee might be a good
[5:03:12] candidate to have a deeper
[5:03:17] discussion on these issues that
[5:03:18] have been raised both through
[5:03:18] the audit and our conversation
[5:03:22] this afternoon.
[5:03:23] So I'll close this and say
[5:03:24] again thank you to the audit
[5:03:26] committee.
[5:03:27] Thank you to Casey and thank
[5:03:31] you to Christina for engaging
[5:03:36] with the council this afternoon
[5:03:37] and a very long but hopefully a
[5:03:38] productive conversation so that
[5:03:40] we're a little smarter and see
[5:03:41] different opportunities go
[5:03:45] forward.
[5:03:46] And with that, as long as we're
[5:03:47] still holding five of us and
[5:03:49] staying awake and a long
[5:03:55] afternoon, we are now done with
[5:03:55] the information.
[5:03:56] This again was an information
[5:03:57] item and no motion was required
[5:04:00] as I stated this morning we
[5:04:00] will now take up virtual not
[5:04:04] agenda public comment that was
[5:04:05] trailed from this morning.
[5:04:05] Council members respect and
[5:04:09] appreciate the public input and
[5:04:10] are fully committed to
[5:04:10] protecting every participant's
[5:04:13] free speech rights at Council
[5:04:14] and committee meetings And I
[5:04:14] probably don't have to say this
[5:04:15] but if you spoke in person this
[5:04:19] morning please do not call in.
[5:04:20] You have one opportunity to
[5:04:21] speak on not a general public
[5:04:23] comment per council meeting
[5:04:24] with that clerk Please proceed
[5:04:29] with our virtual public
[5:04:29] comment.
[5:04:29] >> Thank you.
[5:04:30] Council PRESIDENT Pearl $2.7
[5:04:33] General public comment is an
[5:04:34] opportunity for members of
[5:04:35] the public to comment on items
[5:04:35] that are not on the agenda but
[5:04:36] within the subject matter
[5:04:38] jurisdiction of the City
[5:04:39] Council.
[5:04:42] Each speaker will have two
[5:04:43] minutes since everyone should
[5:04:43] be joining us virtually.
[5:04:44] Please make sure to raise your
[5:04:47] hand now or dial star nine
[5:04:51] starting with Thank you wrap if
[5:04:51] you can please unmute.
[5:04:52] We do have seven speakers in
[5:04:56] the queue.
[5:05:01] >> Good afternoon.
[5:05:02] My name is Becky Rapp and today
[5:05:03] I'd like to bring your
[5:05:06] attention to a study that was
[5:05:10] published in jama Psychiatry by
[5:05:11] researchers from the National
[5:05:12] Institute on Drug Abuse.
[5:05:16] The study analyzed more than
[5:05:20] 186,000 adults using data from
[5:05:21] 2021 through 2024.
[5:05:25] >> The researchers found that
[5:05:26] cannabis use disorder is
[5:05:26] increasing while alcohol use
[5:05:30] disorder has declined or
[5:05:31] remained stable.
[5:05:35] This study is critical because
[5:05:36] it addresses a very important
[5:05:37] misconception that marijuana is
[5:05:40] safer than alcohol.
[5:05:41] That comparison is being used
[5:05:42] to justify expanding marijuana
[5:05:45] access and products across
[5:05:46] the country.
[5:05:47] According to the study in 2024
[5:05:50] more than 1 in 3 men who use
[5:05:53] marijuana that's 36% had
[5:05:53] responses consistent with
[5:05:57] cannabis use disorder.
[5:05:58] Among women who use marijuana
[5:06:01] it was more than 1 in 4 27%.
[5:06:02] And for young adults
[5:06:06] the numbers are even more
[5:06:06] alarming.
[5:06:07] The cdc is also clear when it
[5:06:10] identifies cannabis use
[5:06:11] disorder and warns about
[5:06:12] impairment and other health
[5:06:15] risks Its own materials say
[5:06:16] cannabis can result in
[5:06:16] psychoactive effects.
[5:06:20] So when someone says marijuana
[5:06:21] is safer than alcohol, we
[5:06:25] should point out that it is not
[5:06:26] the standard we should use for
[5:06:26] public policy.
[5:06:29] We should not be choosing
[5:06:30] between two public health
[5:06:31] problems If alcohol related
[5:06:34] disorders declining.
[5:06:35] Why would we want to fill that
[5:06:36] space with increasingly potent
[5:06:40] marijuana products?
[5:06:40] Council members Please follow
[5:06:44] the science not the industry
[5:06:44] Talking points.
[5:06:45] Marijuana use disorder is
[5:06:45] increasing.
[5:06:49] The severity is increasing and
[5:06:50] our policies should reflect
[5:06:50] that reality.
[5:06:51] >> Thank you.
[5:06:54] Thank you.
[5:06:55] >> Next is Peggy Walker.
[5:06:56] If you can please unmute.
[5:06:58] Thank you.
[5:06:59] Good afternoon.
[5:07:00] Because our guest is Substance
[5:07:04] Abuse Prevention Month.
[5:07:04] I come with that request.
[5:07:05] As rates rise for marijuana use
[5:07:08] and related addiction child
[5:07:09] poisonings, cannabis
[5:07:13] hyperemesis syndrome cycle
[5:07:14] since early stroke and heart
[5:07:18] attack violence and suicide I
[5:07:18] respectfully ask you to support
[5:07:23] legislation to cap thc potency
[5:07:24] in marijuana products.
[5:07:24] Other jurisdictions are doing
[5:07:28] this.
[5:07:29] It makes sense in light of
[5:07:29] the recent statement by San
[5:07:33] Diego Doctor Ronny Lev,
[5:07:34] national author of Drug Policy
[5:07:38] she called marijuana the number
[5:07:38] one drug addiction.
[5:07:42] Thc caps could help stem
[5:07:43] addiction because experts say
[5:07:44] marijuana is the hardest
[5:07:47] addiction to treat with fewer
[5:07:48] medications for recovery than
[5:07:52] opioids And methamphetamine.
[5:07:52] Through my youth substance use
[5:07:57] prevention work I witnessed
[5:07:58] firsthand some marijuana's
[5:07:58] devastating effects on young
[5:08:02] people.
[5:08:03] Kids are especially vulnerable
[5:08:03] to high potency thc due to
[5:08:07] ongoing brain development to
[5:08:08] age 26.
[5:08:11] Early pot use negatively
[5:08:12] impacts decision making impulse
[5:08:16] control emotions and has
[5:08:17] lasting effects on brain
[5:08:17] structure function and
[5:08:18] behavior.
[5:08:22] My work aims to prevent ill
[5:08:26] substance use prevent
[5:08:27] the progression to dependance
[5:08:27] and prevent consequences
[5:08:32] associated with use Marijuana
[5:08:32] Cancer.
[5:08:33] Nearly half of admissions for
[5:08:36] youth 12 to 17 into substance
[5:08:41] use treatment reflecting
[5:08:42] the fact that Prep 64 has
[5:08:42] failed its promise to keep our
[5:08:45] kids safe.
[5:08:46] Thc caps would help lessen
[5:08:50] the negative health impact on
[5:08:50] youth.
[5:08:51] Thank you.
[5:08:52] Thank you Barbara Gordon If you
[5:08:55] can please unmute.
[5:08:56] Thank you.
[5:09:00] As a public health educator I
[5:09:01] am urging the city to renew
[5:09:04] their investments in prevention
[5:09:05] and push back against
[5:09:09] the industry's best efforts to
[5:09:10] normalize drug use.
[5:09:10] Prevention remains one of
[5:09:14] the most effective and cost
[5:09:15] conscious tools we have in
[5:09:15] fighting against the drug
[5:09:19] crisis.
[5:09:20] In a recent sandag juvenile
[5:09:24] arrestee drug use in the San
[5:09:25] Diego region reports 98% of
[5:09:29] the that juveniles interviewed
[5:09:30] reported using at least one
[5:09:34] illicit substance and 68% of
[5:09:35] youth arrested said marijuana
[5:09:38] was the first substance they
[5:09:39] experimented with.
[5:09:42] And fortunately numerous
[5:09:43] marijuana predictors and
[5:09:43] policymakers that pursue
[5:09:48] profits at the expense of
[5:09:48] public health actively
[5:09:49] undermine our prevention
[5:09:53] efforts.
[5:09:53] Our children are given
[5:09:54] conflicting messages when they
[5:09:57] tell them not to use it at
[5:09:58] addictive substances that are
[5:10:02] now being promoted throughout
[5:10:03] our neighborhoods.
[5:10:04] A study published in
[5:10:07] the Journal of American Academy
[5:10:08] of Children and Adolescents
[5:10:08] Psychiatry found that states
[5:10:12] that permit marijuana was
[5:10:13] associated with increase in
[5:10:17] past months marijuana use among
[5:10:17] youth ages 12 to 17.
[5:10:22] We need to maximize prevention
[5:10:22] effectiveness.
[5:10:23] This lack of prevention
[5:10:27] education has serious
[5:10:27] implications for the health
[5:10:28] equity of our communities
[5:10:32] especially with our young
[5:10:32] people.
[5:10:33] Thank you for letting me speak.
[5:10:34] Thank you.
[5:10:38] Next is Blair Beckman.
[5:10:38] If you can please unmute.
[5:10:39] After Blair it's Hector and
[5:10:42] then Tyler and 7499.
[5:10:43] Blair please proceed.
[5:10:43] All right.
[5:10:44] Thank you.
[5:10:47] Blair Beckman.
[5:10:47] Thankfully San Diego City
[5:10:48] government is not as
[5:10:49] competitive and demanding of
[5:10:52] new technology use of say
[5:10:53] the San Francisco Bay Area and
[5:10:53] Silicon Valley.
[5:10:57] A reminder that before Stanford
[5:10:58] ,Palo Alto and Menlo Park,
[5:10:59] Silicon Valley was a land of
[5:11:01] the lonely coasts and no one
[5:11:01] nation's.
[5:11:02] And this fall election time I
[5:11:02] hope San Diego can be having
[5:11:06] more regular community
[5:11:06] conversations about our public
[5:11:07] safety future.
[5:11:11] Along with the crime, most
[5:11:11] people simply fear our
[5:11:12] technology future more open,
[5:11:16] accountable responsible tech
[5:11:17] policies is simply meant to
[5:11:17] help alleviate these fears of
[5:11:21] our technology future.
[5:11:22] And that good tech policy
[5:11:22] practices simply can create a
[5:11:26] more efficient use of tech or
[5:11:26] reduction of tech need and
[5:11:27] yearly budget savings.
[5:11:30] And all of this can continue to
[5:11:31] maintain responsible tech use
[5:11:31] and good public safety
[5:11:35] practices to also address
[5:11:36] There's a genuine concern and
[5:11:36] fear of technology and its
[5:11:37] current leaders.
[5:11:40] Many people in San Diego and
[5:11:41] across the country are speaking
[5:11:41] this time that we should not
[5:11:42] have to feel overly pressured
[5:11:45] in the placement of tech in our
[5:11:46] local San Diego neighborhoods.
[5:11:47] And do we even need technology
[5:11:47] placement?
[5:11:50] And can we continue to perform
[5:11:51] tasks without the use of
[5:11:51] technology?
[5:11:54] I hope all of these ideas and
[5:11:55] concepts along with community
[5:11:56] healing strategies can be more
[5:11:59] regularly acknowledged by our
[5:11:59] community, our elected
[5:12:00] officials and San Diego city
[5:12:01] government and how we can more
[5:12:04] clearly talk about the future
[5:12:05] of our San Diego neighborhood
[5:12:05] public safety.
[5:12:06] In the fall election
[5:12:09] conversations of 2026 as you
[5:12:09] simply can be the ways to
[5:12:13] develop as a more folk
[5:12:13] community.
[5:12:14] And being on the same page with
[5:12:17] future tech issues in 2027.
[5:12:17] To conclude as there currently
[5:12:18] seems to be a growing number of
[5:12:23] people around Father Joe's
[5:12:24] villages at 14th and Imperial
[5:12:27] Avenue it is maybe a bit
[5:12:27] alarming.
[5:12:28] The New Day Center simply needs
[5:12:31] to simply MAY be needed to
[5:12:32] return to service in the near
[5:12:32] future.
[5:12:36] It seems a bad idea to sell
[5:12:37] the Neal Good Day Center.
[5:12:38] I think we're making a bad
[5:12:38] decision all around there.
[5:12:42] I hope we really can be
[5:12:43] addressing it upcoming in
[5:12:44] the coming weeks and months.
[5:12:47] Thank you.
[5:12:47] >> Thank you.
[5:12:48] Next is Hector.
[5:12:51] If you can please unmute
[5:12:51] the five minute.
[5:12:52] I had already noticed the five
[5:12:55] minute timer did conclude there
[5:12:55] are eight speakers in
[5:12:56] the queue.
[5:12:56] No additional speakers will be
[5:12:57] taken.
[5:12:57] Hector, if you can please.
[5:13:00] Alright.
[5:13:01] Thanks for taking my call.
[5:13:02] On the all the city leases like
[5:13:05] in Mission Bay like six months
[5:13:06] ago when there 30% of them were
[5:13:06] way behind.
[5:13:09] Of all the revenues like
[5:13:10] the height of the catamaran is
[5:13:12] but all the different
[5:13:13] businesses 30% of them were
[5:13:14] either not paying the rent or
[5:13:18] back on the lease or why are we
[5:13:19] back once a week out?
[5:13:23] Let's collect the money day and
[5:13:23] get everyone's names.
[5:13:24] Then even the guys that owned
[5:13:28] the golf course up there
[5:13:28] Fairbanks it's a couple of
[5:13:29] guys.
[5:13:29] They have corporations that
[5:13:30] hide their stuff.
[5:13:32] Who knows the actual owner
[5:13:33] unless it's BlackRock or
[5:13:37] something But just go on.
[5:13:37] >> They're probably community
[5:13:38] leaders.
[5:13:38] They know they're getting a
[5:13:39] huge deal.
[5:13:42] We could I don't know if we
[5:13:43] have to shame them but they
[5:13:43] want to do best for San Diego.
[5:13:46] We could say Hey man, have
[5:13:47] those couple bathrooms down
[5:13:50] there in the in in the south
[5:13:51] south Park, you know, And we
[5:13:52] tell the kids about how come we
[5:13:56] have a Porta John and we don't
[5:13:56] get a bathroom.
[5:13:59] Because the city's not mine in
[5:14:00] the store.
[5:14:01] It's not because we're poor and
[5:14:05] we're Mexicans or we're this or
[5:14:06] that or it's the city's not
[5:14:06] mine in the store.
[5:14:10] So you got to use the porta.
[5:14:11] These other guys are live in
[5:14:14] live large and they have great
[5:14:15] bathrooms and tennis courts and
[5:14:19] they're paying like one tenth
[5:14:20] of what it's worth I think at
[5:14:23] least at least like one maybe
[5:14:23] one one out of eight.
[5:14:28] What it's really worth And even
[5:14:28] the owner, the Padres he might
[5:14:31] pay us 5000 a year 5 million a
[5:14:32] year to rent it from us and let
[5:14:37] him do whatever he wants.
[5:14:38] He can have his friends up
[5:14:38] there as buddies.
[5:14:39] That's a write up on his
[5:14:41] business.
[5:14:42] He could He can run it, do
[5:14:42] the grass.
[5:14:46] He pays five bucks, 5 million a
[5:14:46] year to rent it.
[5:14:47] Just let him take care of
[5:14:51] everything else.
[5:14:52] I was wonder who pays the taxes
[5:14:52] on the property.
[5:14:57] Are we paying the tax property
[5:14:57] tax or is the owner paying
[5:14:58] the property tax?
[5:15:01] The plus is a fortune too.
[5:15:02] >> So anyway, thank you.
[5:15:06] Next to Tyler if you can please
[5:15:09] on mute after Tyler is seven
[5:15:09] for 99.
[5:15:10] >> Hi I live in Park village
[5:15:14] right and skeeters came in
[5:15:14] the entirety of my backyard is
[5:15:18] up against a city owned steep
[5:15:19] Now that we've had two
[5:15:20] wildfires in the canyon this
[5:15:21] summer I am once again pleading
[5:15:23] for help with a fire and soil
[5:15:24] erosion hazard that my neighbor
[5:15:24] has intentionally created.
[5:15:29] If you look at the satellite
[5:15:30] view of 845 record you'll have
[5:15:31] some context for what I'm
[5:15:31] talking about.
[5:15:33] My neighbor has repeatedly
[5:15:33] cleared the city of land
[5:15:35] without permission creating a
[5:15:37] soil erosion risk on city
[5:15:38] property in advance of what's
[5:15:41] expected to be one of
[5:15:44] the wettest winters in years.
[5:15:48] This neighbor has also dumped
[5:15:52] all the trimmings and dead
[5:15:58] branches right there in
[5:16:05] the canyon creating a fire
[5:16:14] hazard for our entire
[5:16:25] neighborhood.
[5:16:37] These neighbors have been
[5:16:50] treating the canyon which they
[5:17:04] do not own as their own
[5:17:16] personal trash dump.
[5:17:29] For years I've asked this
[5:17:40] neighbor and their contractor
[5:17:53] to stop and clean up this
[5:18:05] hazard multiple times over
[5:18:16] the years.
[5:18:27] This behavior is not only
[5:18:37] selfish and reckless it is
[5:18:47] illegal for San Diego Municipal
[5:18:58] Code sections 142 143 and
[5:19:08] the Incorporated Landscape
[5:19:20] regulations.
[5:19:32] They continue to do this
[5:19:45] because there are no
[5:19:57] repercussions over the multiple
[5:20:09] years this has been happening
[5:20:22] that contacted these residents
[5:20:36] the fire department multiple
[5:20:51] times the brush management
[5:21:03] department get it done and
[5:21:14] Councilmember Yvonne Gilbert's
[5:21:24] office multiple times.
[5:21:37] This is not a private dispute
[5:21:46] between neighbors.
[5:21:56] This is a reckless individual
[5:22:06] creating unnecessary risk for
[5:22:16] the city and its entire
[5:22:27] neighborhood which is clearly
[5:22:36] in violation of established
[5:22:47] law.
[5:22:57] This hillside needs to be
[5:23:06] revegetated.
[5:23:15] The fire hazard cleared and
[5:23:24] the individual stopped from
[5:23:33] damaging this property every
[5:23:42] year.
[5:23:52] I'm begging for your help And
[5:24:01] if you've seen what is
[5:24:10] happening with homeowners
[5:24:19] insurance lately, I trust you
[5:24:26] understand that I frankly can't
[5:24:32] afford to drop this issue.
[5:24:37] >> Thank you for your time.
[5:24:41] Thank you.
[5:24:44] 7499.
[5:24:48] If you can please unmute.
[5:24:51] I know you do have some a
[5:24:54] presentation.
[5:24:57] 749 I have asked you to unmute
[5:25:00] star six or you go please
[5:25:02] please play my video.
[5:25:05] >> Thank you.
[5:25:08] >> Bug does this get here?
[5:25:10] I'm going to read from several
[5:25:13] letters written to Joe LaCava
[5:25:16] regarding the Torrey Pines
[5:25:18] letter.
[5:25:21] I'll start with this 2021
[5:25:23] letter written from the Hawaii
[5:25:25] Town Council.
[5:25:27] Quote On APRIL eight, 2021
[5:25:30] the committee reported its
[5:25:32] findings to lgc which
[5:25:35] unanimously supported that
[5:25:38] the city of San Diego
[5:25:41] reconvened the Torrey Pines
[5:25:43] Advisory Board.
[5:25:45] We are requesting that the city
[5:25:48] of San Diego consider whether
[5:25:50] the solo pilot suppliers should
[5:25:52] have to pay annual membership
[5:25:54] fees or cost of insurance to
[5:25:56] fly the bike or end quote.
[5:25:58] Next letter from Ohio Issuers
[5:26:01] Association on NOVEMBER 13th,
[5:26:02] 2025.
[5:26:04] Quote The assured
[5:26:06] The association respectfully
[5:26:08] submit this letter in support
[5:26:10] of establishing the title Park
[5:26:11] Advisory Board at all and
[5:26:13] overseeing operations at
[5:26:14] the Torrey Pines Airport.
[5:26:15] Our association believes this
[5:26:16] matter is vital to the safety
[5:26:18] of park users, visitors and
[5:26:19] the surrounding community.
[5:26:20] We encourage the City of San
[5:26:21] Diego to carefully evaluate
[5:26:23] whether solo flier pilots
[5:26:24] should be required to pay
[5:26:25] annual membership fees and or
[5:26:27] maintain insurance coverage to
[5:26:28] fly the glider for end quote.
[5:26:30] Next letters from
[5:26:31] the University Community
[5:26:33] Planning Group.
[5:26:34] On MARCH 10th, 2026, the cpg
[5:26:35] passed the following resolution
[5:26:36] request for Pine City Park has
[5:26:38] unique and replaceable natural
[5:26:39] resources.
[5:26:41] And.
[5:26:42] Whereas, citizen input over
[5:26:44] these resources is both
[5:26:45] appropriate and timely.
[5:26:46] University Community Planning
[5:26:47] Group recommends that the city
[5:26:48] establish a 29 City Park
[5:26:50] Advisory Board under Charter
[5:26:51] Section 43 to advise the city
[5:26:53] on planning maintenance and
[5:26:54] operation of Torrey Pines City
[5:26:56] Park.
[5:26:57] And finally this is a second
[5:26:58] letter from the town council
[5:26:59] AUGUST 13th, 2026 while you
[5:27:00] were on vacation.
[5:27:02] Quote The town council
[5:27:03] respectfully submit this letter
[5:27:04] in support of reactivating
[5:27:05] the 40 Pine City Park Advisory
[5:27:05] Board, our city charter section
[5:27:07] 43 and its essential role in
[5:27:07] providing oversight of
[5:27:08] operations of Torrey Pines by a
[5:27:09] fourth Pine City Park Advisory
[5:27:10] Board should be tasked with
[5:27:11] advising the city on matters of
[5:27:11] safety and fair access to
[5:27:12] the Torrey Pines City Park.
[5:27:13] Matters of fair access should
[5:27:14] include a review whether pilots
[5:27:15] should be required to maintain
[5:27:16] annual membership fees and or
[5:27:16] individual insurance coverage
[5:27:17] as a condition of flying
[5:27:18] the glider for end quote.
[5:27:19] Joe LaCava.
[5:27:20] Why are you ignoring all of
[5:27:20] these important local
[5:27:21] organizations?
[5:27:22] >> Your time has concluded.
[5:27:23] We will bring that down.
[5:27:24] Next is Natalie Roski If you
[5:27:24] can please unmute.
[5:27:25] Natalie Rushing Academy before
[5:27:26] you there you are here.
[5:27:26] Natalie Freshman So I didn't
[5:27:27] get a chance to speak yesterday
[5:27:28] because my coaches I'm just so
[5:27:29] beside myself.
[5:27:29] I was ready for my coach.
[5:27:30] I went to a town hall where
[5:27:31] Sara Jacobs spoke about how
[5:27:32] easy it was.
[5:27:32] >> There's a real disconnect on
[5:27:33] what is what I was asked to
[5:27:34] leave what I was going to be
[5:27:34] asked to leave and I ended up
[5:27:35] exiting myself and I'm not a
[5:27:36] real person and I don't yell
[5:27:37] and I don't say disrespectful
[5:27:37] things or I don't you know, I'm
[5:27:38] one of four children who takes
[5:27:39] what's happening seriously.
[5:27:40] There's a real disconnect If
[5:27:40] extremely overwhelming to watch
[5:27:41] And you would think I'm telling
[5:27:42] you people that oversee what is
[5:27:42] happening in city or country.
[5:27:43] It's mind boggling.
[5:27:44] She sat there If there's video
[5:27:45] this video will be aired And
[5:27:45] there was giggling There was
[5:27:46] her tone changed on the whole
[5:27:47] Trump administration.
[5:27:47] So I mean that right there was
[5:27:48] an issue for me because at
[5:27:49] first it seemed like to
[5:27:50] the people and I'm like I don't
[5:27:50] even know what that means but
[5:27:51] at one point she was one way
[5:27:52] and then at another point she
[5:27:52] was another way.
[5:27:53] She talked about it being like
[5:27:53] high school.
[5:27:54] I mean it was cringe school and
[5:27:55] everything She said was word
[5:27:56] salad.
[5:27:56] What is happening?
[5:27:57] Gosh, I wish I had more to
[5:27:58] speak but this is real life
[5:27:58] happening to me in real time in
[5:27:59] my children.
[5:28:00] Everybody's body was covered
[5:28:01] except for the 350 some odd
[5:28:01] that are in the city.
[5:28:02] L.A. Your time has concluded.
[5:28:03] Terrance Kelly If you can
[5:28:03] please email.
[5:28:04] Good afternoon City council
[5:28:05] members and welcome back from
[5:28:05] your legislative break.
[5:28:06] My name is Terrence Gilliam, a
[5:28:07] parent of public health
[5:28:07] educator and a planning group
[5:28:08] attendee.
[5:28:08] I'm a parent of three young
[5:28:09] adult sons.
[5:28:10] So this article from
[5:28:10] yesterday's City News brought
[5:28:11] me great grief.
[5:28:11] It was entitled and I quote two
[5:28:12] Sentenced to first degree
[5:28:13] Murder and Shooting Death of
[5:28:13] Cannabis delivery driver Andre
[5:28:14] Domingues in Oak Park
[5:28:14] neighborhood which is in
[5:28:15] District four.
[5:28:15] Brian and Kevin were 16 and 18
[5:28:16] at the time as the article
[5:28:17] describes that they planned to
[5:28:17] place an order with a delivery
[5:28:18] service and then rob its
[5:28:18] driver.
[5:28:19] There are so many steps along
[5:28:19] the way that could have been
[5:28:20] produced could produce a
[5:28:20] different outcome for these
[5:28:21] young men.
[5:28:21] What messages are we sending
[5:28:22] that Rob being a delivery man
[5:28:22] of his part was okay or worth
[5:28:24] their lives?
[5:28:24] And how come a 16 year old and