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[0:01] 28th, 2025 to order.
[0:02] >> Clerk please call the roll.
[0:03] Thank you.
[0:07] Council PRESIDENT Council
[0:07] Member Campbell Council Member
[0:08] Whitburn here Council Member
[0:13] Foster there Council Member Von
[0:13] Wilpert Council PRESIDENT Pro
[0:16] Tem Lee Council Member Campo
[0:17] Council Member Moreno and
[0:21] Council Member Isla Rivera
[0:22] present and Council PRESIDENT
[0:22] LaCava present Also attending
[0:26] the meeting our senior Chief
[0:27] Deputy City Attorney Carrie New
[0:27] for Independent Budget Analyst
[0:28] Charles Monaco Council Affairs
[0:32] Advisor in the Mayor's office
[0:32] Good advisor and myself your
[0:33] city clerk Diana Fuentes they
[0:34] cannot present.
[0:34] All right.
[0:36] Thank you.
[0:36] Clerk We have a quorum.
[0:37] We will begin this morning with
[0:38] the land acknowledgment and
[0:41] the Pledge of Allegiance led by
[0:41] council member Moreno Thank
[0:41] you.
[0:44] >> Please stand.
[0:49] >> We respectfully acknowledge
[0:50] that the culmination are
[0:51] the original inhabitants of
[0:55] the Unceded land now known as
[0:55] San Diego.
[0:56] Despite enduring the horrors of
[1:00] genocide and colonization,
[1:00] the community spirit remains
[1:01] unbroken.
[1:01] We honor the resilience of
[1:04] their ancestors who fought to
[1:05] protect their land and culture.
[1:09] Today they carry their legacy
[1:10] forward ensuring that their
[1:10] traditions continue to thrive
[1:14] and gratitude and strength We
[1:14] stand with the culmination
[1:19] connected to our past and
[1:19] committed to a thriving future.
[1:23] Now if you please place our
[1:23] flag, put your heart hand over
[1:28] your heart and repeat after me.
[1:29] I pledge allegiance to the flag
[1:33] of the United States of America
[1:33] and the Republic for which
[1:37] stands one nation under GOD,
[1:37] indivisible with liberty and
[1:42] justice for all.
[1:42] >> All right.
[1:47] As I mentioned, we have a
[1:48] quorum and is now the new
[1:48] practice.
[1:49] We'll be starting with
[1:52] the proclamation And for
[1:55] clarification on the record,
[1:56] item s501 is being presented by
[2:00] council member Reno and by
[2:01] Council member Foster Clark.
[2:01] Please proceed with public
[2:05] comment on the proclamations.
[2:06] >> Thank you.
[2:06] Quickly I'll just go over how
[2:07] the public can offer their
[2:09] public testimony during today's
[2:10] meeting.
[2:10] If you are in person please
[2:11] complete the speaker slip
[2:12] located at the entrance of
[2:15] chambers and bring it to
[2:15] the front of the room.
[2:16] Please come at your speakers up
[2:17] in a timely manner to ensure
[2:19] proper meeting management
[2:19] Council ambassadors are
[2:20] available near the entrance of
[2:21] chambers and can assist with
[2:24] questions and speakers slips As
[2:25] a reminder no further in-person
[2:26] testimony will be taken once
[2:28] the council begins Virtual
[2:28] testimony.
[2:29] If you would like to
[2:30] participate virtually you can
[2:30] do so via the webinar
[2:33] information found on the Agenda
[2:34] cover page.
[2:34] Members of the public who wish
[2:35] provide virtual testimony must
[2:36] enter the virtual queue by
[2:39] raising their hand by either
[2:39] dialing sa nine or pressing
[2:40] the raise your hand icon before
[2:43] the queue closes.
[2:44] The queue will close when
[2:44] the last virtual speaker
[2:47] finishes testimony or five
[2:48] minutes or whenever the last
[2:51] person speak speaks whichever
[2:52] occurs first for meeting
[2:52] management purposes during
[2:53] the proclamations and consent
[2:56] portions of the agenda speakers
[2:57] will have one minute per item
[3:00] and up to a maximum of three
[3:01] minutes If there are three or
[3:02] more items in that portion of
[3:05] the agenda for the proclamation
[3:09] items we have quite a few
[3:09] speakers.
[3:10] If I can have the following
[3:11] individuals please come
[3:11] forward.
[3:15] Dennis Don and Natasha Wong
[3:20] Louie When Karen Mack Maga
[3:24] Magpie Kathleen Dang and Lauren
[3:25] Garces you're speaking on items
[3:28] 30 and 31 subjectively.
[3:29] >> Dennis You can come up to
[3:41] the microphone oh good morning.
[3:46] Council PRESIDENT LaCava
[3:47] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[3:52] and honorable Council members.
[3:52] My name is Dennis Tome,
[3:53] Commissioner for Arts and
[3:55] Culture representing District
[3:55] six.
[3:56] I'm deeply honored to be
[3:56] reappointed to this role today
[4:00] and continue to serving our
[4:00] community.
[4:01] Before I begin I want to take a
[4:02] moment to acknowledge
[4:05] the devastating fires affecting
[4:05] Southern California.
[4:06] Our hearts and prayers are with
[4:10] the families and victims
[4:10] impacted as well as the brave
[4:11] firefighters and first
[4:14] responders working tirelessly
[4:15] to protect lives and
[4:15] communities.
[4:16] Their courage reminds us of
[4:20] the importance of coming
[4:20] together in unity especially
[4:24] through these times of crisis
[4:25] As we reflect on the strength
[4:26] that has carried us through
[4:26] difficult times.
[4:29] We are reminded of
[4:30] the significance of embracing
[4:30] who we are regardless of
[4:34] the challenges we face.
[4:34] For me this journey of
[4:35] embracing my heritage wasn't
[4:39] always easy.
[4:40] Growing up I was teased for
[4:40] being different, for speaking a
[4:44] different language at home and
[4:45] for celebrating traditions
[4:45] others didn't understand.
[4:49] But as I've grown I've come to
[4:50] see that our differences are
[4:51] not something to hide.
[4:53] There's something to celebrate
[4:54] rather than isolate.
[4:55] The proclamation of a lunar new
[4:59] Year is more than just a
[5:00] recognition of a cultural
[5:00] tradition.
[5:01] It's an opportunity to reflect
[5:04] on the colorblind values that
[5:04] bind us together as a city
[5:08] family renewal community and
[5:08] hope.
[5:09] These principles transcend our
[5:09] differences and remind us that
[5:13] even in the face of disaster or
[5:14] division we are strongest when
[5:18] we stand together.
[5:19] Just as a snake sheds its skin
[5:19] to grow.
[5:20] This proclamation marks a
[5:23] moment for San Diego to embrace
[5:24] growth that comes from
[5:24] understanding and honoring
[5:28] the cultural richness that
[5:29] makes our city so unique.
[5:29] It allows us to inspire future
[5:33] generations to embrace their
[5:34] heritage, to share their
[5:34] stories proudly and to create a
[5:37] more inclusive and united San
[5:37] Diego.
[5:38] On behalf of the Asian
[5:42] community, thank you for your
[5:42] leadership in making moments
[5:43] like this possible.
[5:47] Together we can continue to
[5:48] build a city where everyone
[5:48] feels seen, valued and
[5:49] celebrated.
[5:50] Thank you And happy Lunar New
[5:51] Year.
[5:51] >> Thank you.
[5:55] That does conclude your time.
[5:56] Natasha you also have two
[5:59] minutes speaking on items 30
[6:00] and 31.
[6:00] Thank you.
[6:00] Good morning.
[6:04] San Diego City Council Members
[6:05] My name is Natasha Wang and I'm
[6:09] the PRESIDENT Of the House of
[6:10] China, the superintendent of
[6:10] the Chinese school San Diego
[6:14] and also a commissioner on
[6:15] the Commission of the Status of
[6:15] Women.
[6:16] I thank you this morning for
[6:19] recognizing Lunar New Year, our
[6:23] most important cultural holiday
[6:24] for Asian-Americans and our
[6:28] Chinese-Americans as a
[6:29] Chinese-American woman I was
[6:29] born and raised here in San
[6:33] Diego and as long as I can
[6:34] remember this was the most
[6:34] significant holiday for our
[6:37] family.
[6:38] But it wasn't always celebrated
[6:39] in the mainstream America or
[6:42] here in San Diego.
[6:43] And more than 30 years ago my
[6:47] family and some community
[6:48] members we helped create
[6:49] the Chinese New Year Street
[6:53] Fair here in downtown and a
[6:56] very small simple dinner Last
[6:57] Saturday our organization
[7:00] celebrated our 46th annual
[7:01] Chinese New Year's Celebration
[7:05] the largest Chinese New Year
[7:06] gala in San Diego with almost
[7:07] 500 in attendance And it was
[7:11] attended by COUNCILMAN
[7:11] PRESIDENT Joe LaCava,
[7:15] COUNCILMAN Kent Lee, City
[7:16] Attorney Heather Herbert and
[7:20] San Diego Police Office Chief
[7:21] while we thank them for their
[7:21] support.
[7:26] Now today and this this year we
[7:27] see many San Diego's come out
[7:29] and celebrate with us
[7:30] especially over the next two
[7:31] weeks the House of China We
[7:35] will celebrate in Balboa Park
[7:39] FEBRUARY 15th and 16th with
[7:39] city with COUNCILMAN Whitburn
[7:40] and COUNCILMAN Kent Lee opening
[7:43] our ceremonies.
[7:44] It means a lot to us to have
[7:45] our city representatives and
[7:48] our San Diego and community
[7:48] celebrate because it means we
[7:49] belong.
[7:53] It means we value the Chinese
[7:54] and Asian-American cultural
[7:57] diversity and we appreciate it
[7:58] And we are so proud to share
[7:59] our culture and our traditions.
[8:03] Thank you so much.
[8:13] >> Next is Louie with.
[8:14] >> Good morning council
[8:15] members, gentlemen And I'm
[8:18] gonna.
[8:19] Happy New Year's in Vietnamese.
[8:19] Some of you MAY recognize me.
[8:22] Probably because of my fedora
[8:23] because that's what I wear.
[8:24] But I'm also a trustee of
[8:27] the San Diego City Employee
[8:27] Pension Plan.
[8:31] The mayor appointed me about
[8:31] four years ago.
[8:32] I'm also the incoming ceo of
[8:35] say, San Diego, a nonprofit in
[8:39] town about 50 years in
[8:39] existence.
[8:40] I am the first Asian American
[8:44] ceo.
[8:45] We serve about 35,000 San Diego
[8:45] in a year.
[8:48] Of that about 1000
[8:49] Asian-Americans.
[8:52] And of that about 350 school
[8:53] aged children who we serve
[8:57] every day, day in, day out.
[9:02] I came to the us as a refugee,
[9:03] grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
[9:06] At that time New Year's
[9:07] celebration that celebration
[9:11] was a very modest affair.
[9:12] We would make some home cook
[9:16] and family get together.
[9:17] It was a not a very large
[9:17] community.
[9:18] And so it was a very
[9:21] marginalized celebration.
[9:22] It was a celebration almost in
[9:26] hiding.
[9:27] Being here in San Diego for
[9:29] the last 20 something years and
[9:30] seeing the elevation of one of
[9:35] our most important family
[9:36] gathering and cultural
[9:36] gathering to be celebrated at a
[9:39] city level I think is just an
[9:40] amazing testimony of where this
[9:45] city has come and gone and
[9:46] arrived at.
[9:48] Also I'd say San Diego we have
[9:49] 30 something languages across
[9:50] all the people all the young
[9:54] people, the families that we
[9:54] support.
[9:55] So in the spirit of that I
[9:55] would encourage and I would
[9:59] love to see the other amazing
[9:59] cultures in our in our city be
[10:00] celebrated as well.
[10:04] So again, thank you for having
[10:04] us today.
[10:05] Love the proclamation and
[10:06] please keep up the great work.
[10:12] Thank you Karen.
[10:13] >> Good morning.
[10:18] City Council your dedicated
[10:18] staff and to the community
[10:19] members behind me.
[10:20] My name is DR. Carmen Malcolm
[10:23] who by?
[10:23] I am a proud educator but more
[10:24] importantly I'm someone who's
[10:27] loved our San Diego communities
[10:28] for over 45 years despite my
[10:32] not being born here.
[10:33] >> I have to share with you
[10:33] since JANUARY 20th my heart's
[10:34] been a little bit heavy because
[10:37] I have students and I have
[10:38] friends who now fear for their
[10:42] health, their safety and their
[10:42] well-being.
[10:46] So celebrations like the one
[10:46] we're about to have today
[10:47] together are key because they
[10:51] affirm who we are as a people.
[10:51] They affirm that no matter
[10:52] where we're from we're here now
[10:55] in San Diego and we all belong
[10:56] here In other parts of
[10:57] the country, celebrations like
[11:00] this wouldn't be allowed.
[11:01] People like me wouldn't be
[11:04] allowed to teach What I teach
[11:05] and that weighs heavy on my
[11:06] heart.
[11:06] And that's why celebrations
[11:10] like this are so key.
[11:10] I read that the year of
[11:11] the snake means fire and
[11:15] passion.
[11:15] I personally don't celebrate
[11:16] Lunar New Year but I celebrate
[11:19] my friends and community
[11:19] members who do.
[11:20] And I'm asking each of you in
[11:24] the years ahead to hold on to
[11:25] that fire and that passion to
[11:25] make sure that we let all of us
[11:29] who are here in San Diego know
[11:30] that they are welcome, that
[11:30] they are loved, that they
[11:33] belong here.
[11:38] >> I'm proud that we have
[11:38] students who are here to
[11:39] witness that.
[11:39] It's powerful when community
[11:43] members come together and we
[11:44] ask our decision makers to make
[11:44] choices on our behalf, That's
[11:45] really key.
[11:47] You all belong here as well.
[11:48] So I thank you all.
[11:52] City Council.
[11:53] Please join me join all of us
[11:54] in reminding the rest of our
[11:57] country that San Diego is not
[11:58] beautiful just for our beaches
[11:58] and our sunsets.
[12:02] It's beautiful because of
[12:02] the people Here we are
[12:03] the beauty of San Diego.
[12:03] Thank you.
[12:13] Happy Lunar New Year Catalina
[12:18] Catling Thank you.
[12:19] >> Good morning.
[12:20] City Council and city staff I'm
[12:20] Kathleen de Bord secretary of
[12:23] the Chinese Consolidate
[12:24] Benevolent Association, one of
[12:24] the oldest Chinese-American
[12:25] organizations founded in
[12:28] downtown San Diego in the late
[12:29] 1800s in what was then
[12:30] the Chinatown of San Diego a
[12:33] place for Chinese immigrants to
[12:34] arrive to San Diego.
[12:34] >> Many notable people have
[12:38] roots from this area such as
[12:39] former San Diego City Council
[12:40] member Tom Hom.
[12:40] We founded the First Lion Dance
[12:44] team the Lucky Line Dancers led
[12:45] by esteemed elders the late
[12:47] Rollie Quan and the late Albert
[12:47] Wang.
[12:48] Our organization has been
[12:51] active in San Diego for over
[12:52] 125 years focused on community
[12:56] service, cultural heritage and
[12:57] generational belonging.
[12:57] We're producing the 42nd San
[13:01] Diego Chinese New Year Fair in
[13:02] downtown San Diego on FEBRUARY
[13:03] 8th and ninth and we are
[13:06] honored and proud to be here to
[13:07] recognize the Lunar New Year
[13:08] with representatives from many
[13:11] diverse cultural organizations
[13:12] of our region.
[13:12] Please know there is more work
[13:16] to be done to recognize and
[13:16] amplify the communities who MAY
[13:17] not be present in this room.
[13:20] We encourage the city to
[13:21] continue building pathways for
[13:25] all communities to be empowered
[13:26] and civically engaged every day
[13:27] of the year and not just during
[13:31] cultural holidays.
[13:32] Wishing you all a happy lunar
[13:32] New Year and you're the snake
[13:36] going Hey Fat Choi.
[13:37] >> Tuchman Numbly in cnn Kuala
[13:41] thank you.
[13:42] Next is Lauren Garcia and you
[13:46] only spoke to item 30.
[13:47] >> Did you want to speak to
[13:47] item 31 as well?
[13:47] Thank you.
[13:50] Please proceed.
[13:50] Good morning and aloha.
[13:51] Honorable council member, city
[13:55] attorney and clerk and staff.
[13:56] My name is Lauren Bell Sita
[13:57] Garces and I am the current
[13:59] co-chair for the San Diego
[14:00] Asian Pacific Islander
[14:00] Coalition.
[14:03] Our coalition has grown to over
[14:04] 50 plus Asian and Pacific
[14:05] Islander serving organizations
[14:08] across San Diego County.
[14:08] And as a Filipino-American
[14:09] growing up in Hawaii I actually
[14:13] didn't celebrate Lunar New Year
[14:13] but I've been in San Diego for
[14:14] over ten years.
[14:15] And thanks to so many wonderful
[14:18] non-profits here today and
[14:19] beyond, we're able to celebrate
[14:19] free community events.
[14:23] We're able to go to amazing
[14:23] small businesses and Asian and
[14:24] Pacific Islander communities
[14:28] that support these celebrations
[14:28] like Convoy District Mira mesa
[14:29] City Heights and beyond.
[14:32] And I want to thank all those
[14:33] amazing community leaders who
[14:34] continue to support that work,
[14:37] continue to welcome us to
[14:37] celebrate with them.
[14:38] And with that I want to thank
[14:39] you all also for continuing to
[14:42] welcome these communities,
[14:42] continuing to represent them,
[14:43] continuing to advocate them and
[14:47] continuing to show why all
[14:48] these beautiful communities
[14:48] make San Diego such a beautiful
[14:52] and diverse place.
[14:53] We're here all to do the work
[14:53] with you and we're excited to
[14:56] do that work especially in
[14:57] these challenging times ahead.
[14:57] So with that with the spirit of
[15:01] Lunar New Year.
[15:02] Thank you all so much.
[15:02] Wishing everyone prosperity,
[15:03] health and wellness ahead.
[15:06] Thank you.
[15:09] >> Thank you, Joseph Joseph
[15:15] Robert Ramirez.
[15:16] Good morning.
[15:16] My name is Joseph Rancho
[15:17] Ramirez.
[15:17] My students call me Professor
[15:19] George Our prophet Jojo.
[15:20] I'm a professor of Asian
[15:21] American studies at
[15:23] Southwestern College and I live
[15:24] down south in 92154.
[15:25] I want to actually talk to you
[15:28] all about the importance of
[15:28] 2025 and the upcoming 2026
[15:29] Lunar New Year for many folks
[15:33] who are from Southeast Asia,
[15:34] the Vietnamese community and
[15:35] the Chinese community in
[15:35] Cambodia and Laos and those who
[15:39] were influenced and combine
[15:39] local communities with Lunar
[15:40] New Year 2025 was the last time
[15:43] they celebrated Lunar New Year
[15:44] in their homeland.
[15:47] 2025 marks the 50th anniversary
[15:48] of the refugee communities
[15:48] particularly Southeast Asian
[15:52] refugees here in San Diego
[15:52] where many of them were
[15:53] processed.
[15:55] And next year 2026 will be
[15:56] the first year they celebrated
[15:57] Lunar New Year as refugees in
[15:57] the United States.
[16:01] So it is important to support
[16:01] not just the cultural aspect
[16:04] but how these celebrations are
[16:05] connected to not just
[16:05] the people to the land but
[16:09] the story of overall San Diego
[16:10] San Diego's as we celebrate
[16:14] Lunar New Year, the fall of
[16:15] Saigon, the diaspora of
[16:15] Cambodian and Lao communities
[16:19] in San Diego.
[16:20] I want to make sure that we
[16:21] also support why these studies
[16:21] are important and how they are
[16:25] connected in Asian American
[16:25] studies in refugee studies and
[16:28] how us as a community are more
[16:29] than just immigrants.
[16:30] We are people with stories,
[16:34] lives stories that stories our
[16:34] ancestors are all connected in
[16:35] how we tell our narratives Here
[16:39] in San Diego.
[16:39] >> Thank you.
[16:39] Thank you.
[16:52] Next is Alan Alan Trent Hello
[16:52] council members and City
[16:52] Attorney.
[16:53] My name is Alan.
[16:57] I am the Treasurer for
[16:57] the Vietnamese American Youth
[16:58] Alliance.
[16:58] I am followed here by Kendra
[17:00] who is the current MISS Vietnam
[17:06] San Diego for another few days
[17:06] I would like to thank you all
[17:07] for all your support for
[17:10] the San Diego Day Festival.
[17:11] This is something that is near
[17:12] and dear to my heart from when
[17:16] I was a volunteer for
[17:16] the festival back in like high
[17:20] school and just working my way
[17:20] up into the organization to
[17:21] where it is now and the support
[17:22] that has been given to our
[17:25] festival and our organization
[17:26] has been amazing and something
[17:29] that I hold dear to my heart So
[17:30] for the years a year of
[17:31] the Snake I want to give a
[17:38] couple Vietnamese well-wishes
[17:39] for every single one of you So
[17:40] I'll do the translations in a
[17:44] little bit But it is
[17:45] essentially took my success As
[17:48] always our some low drum toy
[17:48] which essentially means I wish
[17:49] you all plenty of help and for
[17:51] each and every single one of
[17:52] you to live till 100.
[17:54] Thank you.
[17:59] Thank you so much.
[18:00] >> That does include public
[18:00] comment for proclamations here
[18:04] in council chambers I put five
[18:05] minutes on the clock going to
[18:05] those participating remotely
[18:08] starting with 7968 If you can
[18:09] please let me know which item
[18:12] or items you wish to speak to.
[18:12] Thank you.
[18:17] City Clerk 2830 31 and 501
[18:19] please You'll have three
[18:19] minutes.
[18:25] Please proceed.
[18:26] I join you at a district three.
[18:27] First of all, thank you
[18:29] everybody who just spoke it was
[18:33] so beautiful The words were
[18:34] just inspirational And
[18:38] the beautiful colors You were
[18:39] wearing that speak of
[18:39] the spirit of your culture.
[18:43] Thank you.
[18:44] Thank you so much.
[18:44] That was just so beautiful.
[18:52] So I'll be here to see I it's
[18:52] not my year so to speak, you
[18:57] know, symbolize that it's
[18:57] the snake I love snakes.
[19:02] The Seahawks using their speed
[19:02] and giving up their skin is so
[19:05] powerful a metaphor for change
[19:06] So each individual can do that
[19:10] in their work for government
[19:11] and our beloved government
[19:15] workers all can look at
[19:16] removing their skin in regards
[19:20] to their work in government and
[19:21] changing and just joining
[19:26] the moment that is offered to a
[19:27] will have a full one whole year
[19:28] with the snake still going Hey
[19:31] Joy I'm that and then 31 days
[19:35] and you go oh by the way thank
[19:36] you Mayor Gloria.
[19:36] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[19:40] and DR. Campbell council member
[19:43] on that number 30 item and on
[19:44] 31.
[19:44] Thank you, Mayor Gloria.
[19:45] Thank you Again, Council
[19:48] PRESIDENT Pro tem the DR.
[19:49] Campbell excuse me I think it's
[19:56] kind of shoot me.
[19:56] Council member in Councilmember
[19:57] Elizabeth I So thank you.
[19:58] Thank you.
[19:59] So city of San Diego Lunar New
[20:03] Year we know it's a it's a
[20:03] great week and I know there's
[20:04] so many events offered to us so
[20:07] everybody can have a chance to
[20:08] participate And I love
[20:12] participating in downtown is
[20:13] very robust in the celebration
[20:17] So thank you for offering that
[20:18] whole week to us And that took
[20:22] advantage of it In these times
[20:23] which can be challenging we
[20:28] need to celebrate And so that's
[20:28] my vote.
[20:32] One council member Moreno All
[20:33] here of color all day I want to
[20:36] tell you thank you for that.
[20:37] Every time I hear you speak at
[20:41] city council it's a roar and it
[20:42] just is just who you are.
[20:46] And I thank you.
[20:47] Thank you so much for being
[20:47] present.
[20:48] There is city council and I
[20:51] love your and I want to
[20:52] recommend to the public that
[20:53] every day if you need to
[20:57] activate your roar listening to
[21:01] Katy Perry on YouTube when she
[21:05] sees her song war and so I love
[21:06] these proclamations at
[21:07] the beginning PRESIDENT My cava
[21:11] and thank you and love you all
[21:11] Thank you.
[21:12] >> Next is Blair Beekman your
[21:14] final speaker for proclamations
[21:20] If you can please unmute.
[21:21] Hi Thank you Blair Big Ben I
[21:23] want to speak on items 30 and
[21:24] 31.
[21:24] >> We'll have two minutes.
[21:27] Please proceed.
[21:28] Okay.
[21:28] Thank you.
[21:29] Hi Beekman Thanks a lot for
[21:32] these items and for the public
[21:33] Speakers earlier today are
[21:37] speaking on them earlier this
[21:37] morning.
[21:38] I have just returned from
[21:41] traveling to Southeast Asia for
[21:42] the first time and it's in a
[21:45] way my life is like 55 years
[21:46] old kind of complete now.
[21:51] It's a nice feeling and now
[21:51] it's a matter of just working
[21:52] towards next goals of life.
[21:55] You know, what do I want to go
[21:55] from here?
[21:59] And so my life has been I've I
[22:00] have major accomplishment in
[22:01] traveling to Southeast Asia in
[22:05] my life But it's a very
[22:05] grateful feeling.
[22:09] Good luck in continued work.
[22:10] It was really nice to hear
[22:10] that.
[22:11] Well, we have really important
[22:14] work to do about inviting
[22:15] inclusivity about in
[22:18] considering a care for all
[22:19] human beings in how we work
[22:24] within a society good luck how
[22:24] we can continue to do that And
[22:25] it's really difficult time and
[22:29] I hope we can do it.
[22:30] It's going to be a tough four
[22:32] years and good luck how we just
[22:37] work on we are we are of one
[22:37] world and we need to
[22:38] acknowledge that more than what
[22:42] the current administration I
[22:43] can just their minds can handle
[22:46] They cannot handle concepts
[22:47] that it can be okay to call a
[22:52] place the Gulf of Mexico.
[22:52] That's hard to take because
[22:53] look how we work on that and we
[22:56] can continue to call it
[22:56] the Gulf of Mexico.
[23:01] With that said, I also wanted
[23:02] to thank the Laotian community.
[23:06] I'm not saying that Laotian
[23:07] community hopefully that kind
[23:10] of saying it up in District six
[23:11] They have they had a moon
[23:15] festival I guess they're very
[23:16] popular or they have festivals
[23:16] anyway I don't know what
[23:20] festival what so popular I
[23:21] couldn't get a ticket to get in
[23:24] last year and I hope they can
[23:25] work in upcoming years for
[23:25] their festival that has a
[23:29] really good culinary vaccine to
[23:34] it that it can be open More
[23:34] time has concluded.
[23:35] >> Thank you for that and that
[23:38] concludes proclamation.
[23:43] Public comment All right.
[23:44] Thank you everybody that spoke
[23:44] we don't usually get that kind
[23:48] of enthusiasm among chambers So
[23:49] I appreciate what you did And
[23:52] just we don't normally allow
[23:52] that much applause but when
[23:53] the items are proclamations and
[23:57] ceremonial, I think it's well
[23:58] deserved.
[23:58] So thank you all for your
[24:02] enthusiasm and sharing it.
[24:03] So with that I'll now turn this
[24:04] over to my council member of
[24:04] questions and comments and a
[24:06] motion and we'll start out with
[24:11] council member Campbell Thank
[24:11] you so much.
[24:16] I would like to have time to
[24:20] remark on three of the parks.
[24:24] First of all proc 32 this is
[24:28] Officer Cirillo day.
[24:29] I want to thank my colleagues
[24:29] Mayor Gloria Councilmember
[24:33] Whitburn, Councilmember campo
[24:37] for joining me in proclaiming
[24:38] JANUARY 28th 2025 to be Officer
[24:39] Cirillo de where is there he
[24:39] is.
[24:46] Hey, Officer David Cirillo is
[24:50] retiring from the city after a
[24:51] remarkable 24 years in his
[24:55] career in the San Diego police
[24:55] Department.
[24:56] Officer Cirillo started his
[24:59] career back in 2000.
[25:00] One has been working with
[25:03] Western Division since 2002.
[25:04] In 2008 he was assigned to be
[25:08] community relations officer at
[25:09] the Western Division, a role he
[25:14] held for 17 years.
[25:14] It's remarkable assisting
[25:18] the community and improving
[25:19] relationships and connections
[25:22] between pd and the residents of
[25:23] our city officers.
[25:24] Cirillo has passionately served
[25:27] the residents of the peninsula
[25:28] and Old Town and District two
[25:29] where he provided first class
[25:33] constituents services at all
[25:33] times.
[25:34] Officer Cirillo, I want to
[25:38] thank you from my heart for
[25:38] your years of service for
[25:43] always working so closely with
[25:43] my staff and I.
[25:44] It has been such a delight to
[25:47] work with you.
[25:48] Your professionalism and
[25:49] diligence when working with our
[25:52] community is something that our
[25:52] office has appreciated
[25:57] tremendously.
[25:57] My chief of staff community
[26:00] reps and all of us think very
[26:01] highly of you and we will MISS
[26:02] You.
[26:05] Please don't be a stranger
[26:06] again On behalf of District two
[26:11] residents and my staff and I,
[26:11] we thank you so much for all
[26:12] the great work you've done all
[26:15] your years of service to our
[26:16] city and we wish you and your
[26:20] loved ones much Relax and
[26:20] happiness with your retirement
[26:21] time.
[26:23] Thank you so much for being so
[26:33] great.
[26:38] Next I would like to make some
[26:38] remarks about the European Cake
[26:39] Gallery.
[26:42] This is I want to congratulate
[26:43] the European Cake Gallery in
[26:46] Point Loma because they have
[26:47] their 50th anniversary this
[26:47] month.
[26:47] I know many of you have
[26:51] probably eaten the good things
[26:52] from there.
[26:52] It's been a staple in the Point
[26:55] Loma community since 1975 when
[26:56] it was opened by its owner
[27:00] Steven Ruzicka.
[27:01] They sell many classic pastries
[27:01] German chocolate cake, apple
[27:05] strudel and Steven Specialty a
[27:06] Swiss Black forest cake filled
[27:10] with Now don't get too loud
[27:13] about this but I know I did
[27:14] when I first heard it filled
[27:15] with chocolate mousse and
[27:18] whipped cream.
[27:19] What could be better?
[27:20] San Diego has so many wonderful
[27:23] small businesses that are
[27:24] the backbone of our local
[27:27] economy provide jobs for
[27:28] residents and I am so happy to
[27:29] see the European Cake Gallery
[27:32] has been thriving in our
[27:33] district too for so long.
[27:34] Congratulations to Steven and
[27:37] the European Cake Gallery team
[27:38] for reaching this incredible
[27:42] milestone in their history.
[27:47] And last but not least this is
[27:48] the year of the snake and this
[27:51] year's the 20th anniversary
[27:52] The Vietnamese-American Youth
[27:55] Alliance's Tet Festival
[27:56] the annual celebration of
[27:56] the Vietnamese New Year.
[28:00] This year's celebration will be
[28:01] held in District two at ntc
[28:05] Liberty Station from JANUARY
[28:06] 31st to FEBRUARY 2nd three day
[28:06] celebration of the New Year
[28:10] with traditional Vietnamese
[28:11] food performances and cultural
[28:15] practices such as exchanging
[28:18] lucky red envelopes with loved
[28:19] ones.
[28:19] 2025 is the year of the Snake
[28:20] and our understanding in
[28:23] the Vietnamese culture snakes
[28:24] are associated with
[28:28] intelligence and transformation
[28:29] I want to wish everyone a happy
[28:33] Vietnamese New Year happy lunar
[28:34] New Year to everyone who
[28:34] celebrates.
[28:35] I hope everyone is able to
[28:38] leave behind all the troubles
[28:39] of last year just like a snake
[28:43] sheds its skin and welcome new
[28:43] beginnings in the New year.
[28:44] Thank you so much.
[28:49] Council PRESIDENT All right
[28:49] Thank you Gautham or Gamble.
[28:52] I'll go next to Councilmember
[28:53] Moreno.
[28:53] >> Thank you.
[28:54] And first and foremost I'm
[28:55] happy to make a motion to
[28:58] accept all the proclamations
[29:01] and I have comments on item 30
[29:02] 3132 and that's 5a1.
[29:06] I'll begin with comments on
[29:07] item as 5a1 Women of color raw
[29:11] day Today I join Council member
[29:15] Foster in proclaiming FEBRUARY
[29:16] 1st 2025 to be Women of Color
[29:20] War day in the city of San
[29:20] Diego.
[29:21] This proclamation celebrates an
[29:25] organization that has made a
[29:25] significant impact on our
[29:26] community by uplifting
[29:30] the voices achievements and
[29:30] aspirations of women of color.
[29:34] Founded in 2018 by Angela de
[29:38] Joseph Women of Color Raw grew
[29:39] from a deep recognition of
[29:39] the underrepresentation of
[29:43] women of color in politics and
[29:44] public service.
[29:48] Misty Josephs vision and
[29:49] dedication led to the stablish
[29:49] ment of a platform that not
[29:53] only celebrates black and brown
[29:54] elected officials but also
[29:57] inspires the next generation of
[29:58] leaders to pursue careers in
[30:02] public service.
[30:03] Through events like the annual
[30:04] Women of Color Raw Breakfast
[30:07] and the newly established
[30:07] Leadership Academy, this
[30:08] organization empowers young
[30:12] women from historically
[30:12] underserved communities.
[30:13] It provides them with life
[30:17] skills, career development
[30:18] opportunities and civic
[30:19] engagement training ensuring
[30:22] that they are well equipped to
[30:23] shape the future of our city
[30:23] and beyond.
[30:27] Each year women of women of
[30:28] color roar make makes it a
[30:32] priority to include young
[30:33] voices by sponsoring over 500
[30:37] high school and college aged
[30:38] women to attend the annual
[30:38] breakfast.
[30:39] These events give young women
[30:41] the opportunity to connect with
[30:42] successful community leaders,
[30:43] engage with public officials
[30:47] and envision their own future
[30:47] as changemakers.
[30:51] In addition, the Women of Color
[30:52] Raw Breakfast is a platform
[30:56] platform for showcasing
[30:57] positive achievements in our
[30:57] community where high ranking
[31:01] officials and community members
[31:02] come together to honor
[31:02] the strength, resilience and
[31:06] remarkable contributions of
[31:07] black and brown people.
[31:11] Today we acknowledge that
[31:12] the strength and leadership of
[31:13] women women of color have been
[31:17] a cornerstone in shaping not
[31:17] only our local communities but
[31:21] also our nation as a whole.
[31:22] Let us celebrate
[31:23] the visionaries, leadership and
[31:26] change agents who inspired all
[31:26] of us and commit to supporting
[31:30] the next generation of women
[31:31] leaders who will continue to
[31:32] make our city and our whole
[31:32] world a better place.
[31:36] It is with immense pride that I
[31:37] ask this Council to join
[31:37] Councilmember Knight in
[31:41] officially proclaiming FEBRUARY
[31:46] 1st, 2025 as women of color
[31:47] Fraud Day in the city of San
[31:47] Diego.
[31:47] Thank you for that.
[31:51] Moving on to item number 32.
[31:52] I would like to congratulate
[31:56] and thank Officer Cirillo on
[31:56] his retirement.
[32:00] Thank you for your commitment
[32:00] to the city of San Diego but
[32:05] also to the folks in all of San
[32:05] Diego.
[32:06] I hear every day is Saturday
[32:09] now moving forward So
[32:10] congratulations on that.
[32:14] I'd also like to comment on
[32:14] item 30 and 31 which recognizes
[32:18] San Diego Lunar New Year week
[32:18] and the Year of the Snake.
[32:23] I want to say I wish all San
[32:23] Diegans a happy lunar New Year
[32:24] And MAY Harmony bring you and
[32:28] your family wealth, prosperity
[32:28] and happiness.
[32:33] That concludes my comments.
[32:33] >> Council PRESIDENT.
[32:34] Thank you.
[32:34] All right.
[32:35] Thank you.
[32:36] So we have a motion to move
[32:38] the proclamation and now we'll
[32:39] go to Councilmember Foster.
[32:42] >> Yes, Thank you, Council
[32:43] PRESIDENT.
[32:43] I'd like to comment briefly on
[32:50] item 31 and item as 5a1.
[32:55] Thank you to Mayor Todd Gloria
[32:56] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Ken
[33:00] Lee Council members Raul Campo
[33:01] and Councilmember Shawn Isla
[33:02] Rivera for bringing the Lunar
[33:05] New Year week Proclamation
[33:05] forward.
[33:06] The proclamation brings
[33:07] awareness and promotes mutual
[33:10] respect for our Asian
[33:11] communities in San Diego and
[33:12] the communities where I serve
[33:14] in District four.
[33:14] On Friday along with the mayor
[33:15] and Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem
[33:19] Ken Lee, I attended the Asian
[33:19] Business Association Foundation
[33:20] Lunar Year Celebration.
[33:24] I was honored to celebrate
[33:24] Lunar New Year by feeding
[33:25] the Dragons.
[33:27] Let us during the Lion Dance
[33:28] symbolizing prosperity and good
[33:32] fortune for the year ahead.
[33:33] Thank you to the aba for this
[33:34] wonderful opportunity to
[33:37] participate in this moment.
[33:38] I want to wish everyone a happy
[33:42] lunar New Year.
[33:43] And that concludes my comments
[33:44] for the item.
[33:48] Also in regards to women of
[33:48] color Broadway thank you to my
[33:52] colleague Councilmember Vivian
[33:53] Moreno as we proclaim Women of
[33:57] Color Day in the city of San
[33:57] Diego.
[33:58] Thank you to the founder of
[34:02] Roar Angela Joseph for being a
[34:02] guiding light for women of
[34:03] color in our region.
[34:07] Roar is truly rooted in
[34:07] resilience.
[34:08] Raw champions, women of color
[34:11] and their pursuit of civic
[34:11] engagement and careers in
[34:12] public service.
[34:15] The District for office has
[34:16] long supported the Women of
[34:17] Color War organization.
[34:21] I am proud to say District four
[34:22] where I serve is home to some
[34:25] of today's most incredible
[34:26] elected officials.
[34:27] Secretary of State DR. Shirley
[34:32] Weber Assemblyman Member DR.
[34:32] Lee Shay Sharp Collins Senator
[34:36] DR. Akeelah Weber Pierson and
[34:36] Supervisor Monica McEnery Stepp
[34:41] all of which live in District
[34:41] four.
[34:42] Congratulations on your
[34:42] milestone.
[34:45] The seventh Annual 2025 Women
[34:47] of Color War Breakfast
[34:48] happening FEBRUARY 1st right on
[34:49] time to kick off Black History
[34:49] Month.
[34:53] A lot of hard work goes into
[34:54] pulling off an event like this
[34:58] year after year.
[34:58] Keep shining and keep roaring.
[34:59] You are making history.
[35:02] And that concludes my comments.
[35:03] Thank you.
[35:03] I'm going to take that as a
[35:04] second.
[35:04] Yes, sir.
[35:07] Thank you, sir.
[35:08] And with that we'll go to
[35:09] council member Whitburn.
[35:09] Thank you very much.
[35:10] Council PRESIDENT
[35:12] Congratulations to everybody
[35:13] who is being recognized with
[35:13] proclamations this morning.
[35:17] I want to welcome everybody
[35:18] here and everybody watching who
[35:18] are celebrating Lunar New Year
[35:22] and the year of the snake.
[35:23] Thank you to each of you who
[35:26] spoke about how important these
[35:27] celebrations are not only to
[35:28] you but to everybody in our
[35:31] city all the people who value
[35:32] everyone who makes San Diego
[35:36] the great city that it is.
[35:37] I thought many of your comments
[35:38] were really poignant this
[35:38] morning and I am proud that
[35:41] downtown and the international
[35:42] cottages in Balboa Park are an
[35:46] important part of
[35:47] the celebrations that are
[35:47] coming up.
[35:48] I also want to thank Officer
[35:51] David Cirillo for his many,
[35:52] many years of public service
[35:52] and congratulate him on his
[35:56] retirement from the San Diego
[35:57] Police Department.
[35:57] Officers Cirillo, as we heard,
[36:01] has spent many years of his
[36:02] career as a community police
[36:04] officer in District three.
[36:05] You have been so responsive to
[36:09] the residents, the community
[36:10] groups and so many people in
[36:11] District three and elsewhere.
[36:14] You have not only been
[36:15] responsive to those concerns,
[36:16] you have worked proactively
[36:19] over the years to really help
[36:22] the residents in in District
[36:22] three.
[36:23] When I heard that you were
[36:26] retiring, the first thought
[36:27] that came to mind is how is
[36:28] that even possible?
[36:29] But then it occurred to me that
[36:32] I have known you for at least
[36:32] 17 of the years that you have
[36:33] been in that role.
[36:37] Which makes us both feel older
[36:37] than either one of us would
[36:38] want to feel.
[36:41] But I.
[36:42] I guess it's about that time
[36:46] you have shown such dedication
[36:47] as a public servant over all of
[36:48] those years and work closely
[36:52] with our city council staff to
[36:52] address the needs of
[36:53] the community.
[36:53] You are an institution in
[36:56] district three and you will be
[36:56] greatly missed.
[36:57] >> Thank you for your service
[36:57] sir.
[37:01] All right.
[37:01] >> Thank you.
[37:02] And we'll go next to
[37:06] Councilmember Vaughn Walker.
[37:06] Thank you very much.
[37:07] And officers Will I'm going to
[37:11] invite you to come up and use
[37:11] of my time if you would like to
[37:12] say anything.
[37:12] Put you on the spot.
[37:13] Of course.
[37:15] And while you're coming up, I
[37:16] want to say congratulations
[37:16] again to all of my colleagues
[37:20] for such great proclamations as
[37:20] usual.
[37:21] I'll end on yours, sir, but
[37:24] please come on up first for
[37:25] Lunar New Year, week and week
[37:26] of the Snake.
[37:26] I'm so thrilled that you all
[37:27] are here.
[37:29] Natasha the great fantastic
[37:30] residents are five and I heard
[37:31] all about the celebration this
[37:34] weekend.
[37:35] Thank you for your service on
[37:35] the Commission on the Status of
[37:36] Women as well.
[37:38] I'm very excited for
[37:39] the celebration.
[37:40] It's something that we need to
[37:40] highlight even more every year
[37:41] And thank you for sharing
[37:44] the history that your family
[37:45] has contributed to San Diego.
[37:48] I'm also very excited for
[37:49] the woman of color of your day.
[37:50] Thank you to my colleague
[37:50] Councilmember Ramo for bringing
[37:53] this forward.
[37:54] And Councilmember Foster, it is
[37:54] so important to create
[37:55] opportunities to empower
[37:58] especially young girls and
[37:59] women of color to find their
[38:00] footing here in the world and
[38:03] step into leadership roles and
[38:04] become our change makers.
[38:04] So I'm very excited for
[38:08] the women of color Breakfast
[38:08] and Leadership Academy to
[38:09] provide invaluable experiences
[38:13] to equip young women with
[38:13] skills in civic engagement,
[38:14] engagement training and career
[38:19] development and finally
[38:19] officers Well I'm not thrilled
[38:20] you're retiring for this city
[38:22] but I'm thrilled for you.
[38:23] Thank you for your incredible
[38:24] service to our police
[38:24] department.
[38:28] Your role is one of the most
[38:28] important roles because you
[38:29] help build trust with our
[38:32] community and you are the face
[38:33] of the police department to so
[38:33] many people who have questions
[38:36] and have concerns and want to
[38:36] report crimes.
[38:37] >> So this is going to be one
[38:38] of the first of many
[38:41] retirements unfortunately
[38:42] coming up with our police and
[38:42] firefighters.
[38:43] I'm trying to figure out how to
[38:44] pass a law to prevent you from
[38:47] retiring but I haven't figured
[38:47] that out yet.
[38:48] So please call me up If you'd
[38:49] like to say anything, please
[38:51] use my time.
[38:52] >> Thank you very much.
[38:57] I won't speak long.
[38:57] i'm Irish, Italian and usually
[38:58] I do And a lot of people know
[38:58] me.
[38:59] No, that's true.
[39:01] I appreciate saints for coming
[39:01] to see me off today.
[39:02] I know that's not what you're
[39:06] really doing here but my son
[39:06] graduated last year from Saints
[39:10] so I relate to you guys and
[39:11] your teachers trying to keep
[39:12] you guys in line today to
[39:14] the community that's here today
[39:15] representing the new year.
[39:16] Thank you very much for
[39:16] everything that you do making
[39:19] sure that your culture is
[39:20] shared with out throughout
[39:20] the city.
[39:21] To the city council.
[39:25] I thank you all for allowing me
[39:25] to serve the city.
[39:26] I appreciate it so much.
[39:30] My goal has always been never
[39:30] to be about me but about
[39:31] the people that I serve and
[39:34] that includes the people,
[39:35] the citizens and then
[39:36] partnerships that I had with
[39:36] the city council members and
[39:40] the city council staff and
[39:40] the mayor and the mayor's
[39:41] staff.
[39:41] So over those years I've seen a
[39:44] lot of people come and go and
[39:48] built long relationships with a
[39:49] lot of the different people
[39:49] here.
[39:50] So thank you all for what you
[39:51] guys are doing.
[39:51] I truly believe this is
[39:54] the finest city in America.
[39:58] I think that our department is
[39:59] heads and shoulders over any
[40:00] other department in this nation
[40:00] Whenever there's trouble
[40:04] throughout this country I feel
[40:05] as if that is not how we would
[40:08] behave When I see some of
[40:08] the things that are negative
[40:09] that happen And I think that's
[40:10] because of our leadership and I
[40:13] appreciate our chief wall who's
[40:14] taking us in a new direction
[40:15] and all the support staff that
[40:18] he has.
[40:18] I appreciate the City council
[40:19] for allowing our police
[40:22] department to go out into
[40:23] the communities and build those
[40:24] bridges.
[40:26] And I appreciate every one of
[40:26] you in every one of your
[40:27] communities knowing that you
[40:28] guys go out there every day
[40:31] trying to better our community
[40:31] for the citizens.
[40:32] I know at times people don't
[40:37] always see eye to eye on issues
[40:37] but that's part of
[40:38] the discussion and that's how
[40:39] we we build bridges and we work
[40:39] together.
[40:41] So I sincerely want to thank
[40:42] City Council for all of you in
[40:43] all of your different
[40:46] communities and how you guys
[40:47] fight for your people And
[40:48] that's how I so I try to do it
[40:50] for Western Division.
[40:51] I tried to fight for
[40:51] the citizens and make sure that
[40:52] they were heard and help them
[40:55] because together we can
[40:56] continue to keep this city San
[40:56] Diego the finest city in
[41:00] America.
[41:01] I think that we hold the bar
[41:02] extremely high for other cities
[41:05] to try to live up to and that
[41:06] means our citizens, our police
[41:07] department, our city staff and
[41:10] our elected officials.
[41:11] And I think that when we go out
[41:12] to other cities we're able to
[41:12] say well, why can't you be more
[41:14] like us?
[41:15] And while we're doing that
[41:16] we're always trying to push
[41:16] that bar higher.
[41:18] So I appreciate you guys.
[41:19] >> Thank you all very much.
[41:42] Thank you.
[41:48] Yeah.
[41:48] And we'll go next to
[41:49] Councilmember Ila Rivera.
[41:49] Thank you.
[41:51] Council PRESIDENT.
[41:52] I want to thank my colleagues
[41:57] for all the proclamations that
[41:57] are brought forward today and
[42:01] definitely thank the community
[42:02] for showing up in the way that
[42:03] you you have this morning.
[42:06] Just I'm going to actually seat
[42:07] as much time as possible to
[42:07] council member Lee or Council
[42:11] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee so that
[42:11] he can share that with
[42:12] the community.
[42:12] I want to say thank you again
[42:16] to the community for showing
[42:16] up.
[42:17] I want to say thank you to
[42:19] the to the little Saigon
[42:20] Foundation for inviting me to
[42:25] attend their Lunar New Year and
[42:25] Little Saigon Foundation Tet
[42:30] Festival on Saturday.
[42:30] As always that was a fantastic
[42:31] event.
[42:35] Great to see community Bravo.
[42:35] It was actually like
[42:36] legitimately cold weather not
[42:39] just San Diego Cold but braved
[42:39] the cold weather to be out
[42:43] there And it's especially
[42:44] reflected on some of
[42:45] the comments made in public
[42:48] comment and having that
[42:49] festival in City Heights is
[42:50] especially powerful because we
[42:53] see such a great mix of
[42:53] different cultures and
[42:58] backgrounds and folks who came
[42:58] to the same community from
[43:02] different places But for
[43:03] the same reason and for many of
[43:04] the same reasons I should say
[43:07] and have have built a really,
[43:07] really strong community and
[43:12] watching especially young ones
[43:12] explore different culture and
[43:17] heritage and food with one
[43:17] another in this celebratory
[43:18] environment is just really
[43:21] powerful.
[43:22] And I think again speaking to
[43:26] what I heard this morning is
[43:27] really is a great reflection of
[43:27] what makes San Diego most
[43:31] important.
[43:32] Karen you're absolutely right.
[43:32] It's not the beaches.
[43:33] It's not the sunsets.
[43:36] It's our people.
[43:37] And and these celebrations are
[43:41] a great way of reminding us
[43:41] that.
[43:42] So thank you for that.
[43:45] And with that I will see
[43:46] the remainder of my time to
[43:47] council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[43:50] All right Thank you With next
[43:51] we'll go to Councilmember Campo
[43:52] Thank you council PRESIDENT And
[43:53] thank you to my colleagues for
[43:55] this great set of
[43:55] proclamations.
[43:56] Of course wishing everyone
[43:59] happy Lunar New Year And my
[44:00] staff and I will be out at
[44:01] the Linda Vista Farmer's Market
[44:02] for the Lunar New Year
[44:04] celebration this Thursday
[44:05] between 2 and 7 P.M. At
[44:06] the Linda Vista Shopping Center
[44:06] and I look forward to seeing
[44:09] many of you there though I am
[44:10] sad that we probably won't see
[44:14] officers there Willow there
[44:14] being a crew for Linda Vista
[44:18] parts of Mission Valley for so
[44:18] so long.
[44:19] I want to build off
[44:20] the comments that my colleagues
[44:23] and that you said for yourself,
[44:24] sir but we're deeply going to
[44:25] MISS You and know that the face
[44:27] of trust of with the public is
[44:28] almost always the first
[44:29] interaction someone has with
[44:32] their crew.
[44:33] So for the good things people
[44:34] think about our local
[44:34] government it starts with
[44:38] people in your role and you
[44:38] specifically for the last
[44:39] several decades for 24 years.
[44:42] So thank you very much And I
[44:43] salute you And that concludes
[44:43] my comments.
[44:44] >> Council PRESIDENT All right.
[44:45] Thank you.
[44:48] And Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem,
[44:48] I understand you're ceding your
[44:49] time for the special
[44:49] performance or do you want to
[44:53] speak now?
[44:53] Okay.
[44:54] You know, I was going to hold
[44:57] just to be the last deleted
[44:58] the performance.
[44:58] >> Okay.
[44:59] I think I'm going to be
[45:02] the last I'll be now and then
[45:02] we'll go to you.
[45:06] Okay.
[45:07] Thank you to my colleagues for
[45:08] all the proclamations and
[45:09] congratulations those being
[45:11] honored a special shout out for
[45:12] the recognition of the year
[45:13] the snake in the Lunar New Year
[45:16] and to have celebrated on
[45:16] Saturday night and then again
[45:17] this morning and embraced by
[45:20] the joy and the resilience of
[45:21] the Chinese and Asian
[45:22] communities just makes this
[45:22] year's celebration so much
[45:23] sweeter.
[45:25] Happiness, health and
[45:26] prosperity to all who
[45:26] celebrate.
[45:27] I'll echo the comments of my
[45:31] colleagues for Officer David
[45:31] Cyril on your retirement clear
[45:35] that you brought passion and
[45:35] outstanding service to
[45:36] the community she served and I
[45:37] thank you for your 24 years of
[45:40] outstanding service and
[45:43] dedication to the Department
[45:44] And item 33 which is the 70th
[45:45] anniversary of the La Hoya
[45:48] Symphony and chorus it's a
[45:48] nonprofit and proud affiliate
[45:49] with the University of
[45:52] California San Diego
[45:53] celebrating 70 years of musical
[45:54] performances.
[45:58] This milestone reflects
[45:58] the commitment and innovation
[45:59] that are brought to
[45:59] the community through both
[46:03] music and education.
[46:03] Their engagement with youth has
[46:04] made classical and contemporary
[46:05] music more accessible as they
[46:08] celebrate diverse musical
[46:08] traditions.
[46:09] Congratulations on 70 years and
[46:12] many more to come.
[46:13] And with I'll turn it over to
[46:13] you sir.
[46:17] Council PRESIDENT Or do we want
[46:18] to take the vote and then you
[46:19] can introduce the performance?
[46:19] >> I can I can start okay.
[46:22] And then we'll go from there.
[46:22] Thank you.
[46:23] Council PRESIDENT.
[46:24] It's certainly now my privilege
[46:24] to be joined by many of my
[46:28] colleagues and the mayor to
[46:28] bring forth items 30 and 31 San
[46:32] Diego Lunar New Year Week and
[46:32] the Year of the Snake here in
[46:33] San Diego.
[46:36] Starting tomorrow JANUARY 29th
[46:37] we are excited to ring in a new
[46:40] year with a new Zodiac animal.
[46:41] And as a day that is celebrated
[46:42] by over 2 billion people
[46:45] annually, the Lunar New Year is
[46:46] especially important to many of
[46:50] our local Asian communities in
[46:51] the state of California.
[46:51] Lunar New Year was actually
[46:52] recognized as an official
[46:55] holiday just a few years ago.
[46:56] And in San Diego we know that
[46:57] Lunar New Year has been
[46:57] celebrated by well over a
[47:00] century beginning in the 1800s
[47:01] when Santiago's first Asian
[47:01] communities developed for many
[47:04] families including mine, this
[47:05] holiday is a sacred time to
[47:06] reunite with loved ones to
[47:10] feast, to wish for health and
[47:10] prosperity and to engage in
[47:11] traditions everything from lion
[47:15] dancing to the gifting of lucky
[47:15] red envelopes a tradition we'll
[47:16] practice ourselves here in
[47:19] the council chambers in just a
[47:20] few minutes.
[47:20] In addition, many of our
[47:23] nonprofits small businesses and
[47:24] community leaders help to
[47:24] organize and support local
[47:28] Lunar New Year festivals
[47:29] throughout our region.
[47:29] And as you've heard from many
[47:30] of the speakers, these are
[47:33] festivals and celebrations that
[47:34] help to spotlight and enrich
[47:34] our city as a whole.
[47:35] And my office is certainly
[47:39] privileged to partake in many
[47:39] of these festivals each year.
[47:40] And this morning I think we're
[47:43] honored to be able to return
[47:44] the favor by having many of
[47:45] those aapi leaders here at City
[47:45] Hall.
[47:48] I like to take a moment to
[47:49] recognize those folks who have
[47:49] joined us today.
[47:53] We have California Apia
[47:53] Commissioner Matt Cooper Gay
[47:54] and Human Relations
[47:55] Commissioner Professor Swoosh
[47:58] Alex and Lauren who are
[47:59] the co-chairs of the San Diego
[47:59] api Coalition.
[48:03] Natasha, David, Lily, Cassandra
[48:04] and Ernie from the House of
[48:04] China and the Chinese School of
[48:08] San Diego which you heard held
[48:09] their annual gala just this
[48:09] last weekend.
[48:11] But the House of Chan will also
[48:12] be hosting their Chinese New
[48:13] Year Fair FEBRUARY 15th and
[48:16] 16th in Balboa Park.
[48:17] Kathleen, Jacinta and Lauren
[48:18] with the Chinese Consolidated
[48:22] Benevolent Association that
[48:22] hosts the Chinese New Year Fair
[48:23] FEBRUARY 8th and ninth in
[48:27] downtown off Third and j.
[48:28] Ellen and Kendra from
[48:28] the Vietnamese American Youth
[48:31] Alliance and MISS Vietnam San
[48:31] Diego who will be hosting their
[48:32] ted Festival this weekend in
[48:36] Liberty Station, the Little
[48:37] Saigon Foundation who as you
[48:37] heard from Councilmember Isla
[48:40] Rivera hosted their festival
[48:40] this past weekend in City
[48:41] Heights.
[48:41] As you can now tell, Lunar New
[48:45] Year is celebrated not just
[48:46] this month but next month for
[48:46] weeks at a time.
[48:50] The Little Saigon Foundation
[48:51] will just recognize them.
[48:51] Commissioner Dizzy Dewan from
[48:55] our arts and Culture Commission
[48:56] which will be reappointing
[48:59] later this morning and is
[49:00] the first appointed Vietnamese
[49:01] to send congratulations Dizzy
[49:04] learn from the Vietnamese
[49:04] Federation of San Diego.
[49:05] Sean we know you're back there
[49:06] somewhere representing Viet
[49:10] Voices and Hui from Pacific
[49:10] Arts Movement and the host of
[49:14] our integration Film Festival
[49:15] Bobby and Peter from Lao San
[49:15] Diego.
[49:21] Louis Nguyen who shared that
[49:21] he's the new ceo of Stacy
[49:22] Naidoo as of this month.
[49:24] Congratulations Louie.
[49:25] i believe we even have team
[49:26] members that are here from
[49:28] Cross Creek chicken in convoy
[49:29] representing And then finally
[49:29] you're going to meet soon
[49:33] the lucky line dancers Who are
[49:34] the oldest line dance troupe in
[49:34] San Diego Leah Rizzo, Annie
[49:39] David John Kathleen.
[49:39] And San Diego Police officer
[49:43] Jonathan Lowe, our performers
[49:44] who will be performing the Lion
[49:44] Dance.
[49:45] And thank you for the countless
[49:48] line dances that you perform
[49:49] throughout the month.
[49:50] And of course shout out to all
[49:53] the snakes who are in the room
[49:54] today and to all the snakes who
[49:57] know who will be born later
[49:58] this year Specifically this
[49:58] year is the year of the wood
[49:59] snake.
[50:02] And these are creatures who are
[50:03] celebrated for their charm,
[50:03] creativity and sharpness as
[50:07] well as their ability to shed
[50:08] their own skin symbolizing
[50:09] transformation and renewal.
[50:12] I'll give a special shout out
[50:12] to the snakes in my District
[50:13] six office as well.
[50:17] Gretchen, Ana and Joe.
[50:17] And thank you to Laurie from
[50:21] Oscar t imports for providing
[50:22] these beautiful snake themed
[50:23] envelopes for the city council
[50:23] today.
[50:26] So thank you again to all those
[50:27] who are coming out here to
[50:27] celebrate with your elected
[50:30] officials and the city.
[50:31] I'll close out by officially
[50:32] proclaiming in our city
[50:34] the weeks of JANUARY 29th
[50:35] through the Lantern Festival
[50:36] day of FEBRUARY 12th to be San
[50:39] Diego Lunar New Year Week.
[50:40] And then by proclaiming
[50:41] the entire year of January
[50:43] 29th, 2025 through FEBRUARY
[50:43] 16th 2026 to be the year of
[50:48] the snake throughout the city
[50:48] of San Diego.
[50:48] Happy New Year!
[50:55] Chuck Monomoy sending flock to
[50:56] be seen in quite a company that
[50:57] I thank you council PRESIDENT
[50:58] And my colleagues for the time
[50:58] and I'll turn to you to go
[51:02] ahead and call the roll and I
[51:02] believe after that will go
[51:03] ahead And welcome to the lines.
[51:03] >> All right.
[51:04] Thank you, sir.
[51:06] So we have a motion by
[51:07] COUNCILMAN Moreno and a second
[51:08] by Councilmember Foster to
[51:09] adopt all the proclamations.
[51:15] >> Clerk please call the roll.
[51:15] I started the voting system.
[51:16] Please cast your vote And that
[51:19] passes unanimously 9 to 0.
[51:20] >> Well, in addition, any
[51:20] introduction you might want to
[51:24] do, sir, we will have a special
[51:25] performance of the Lucky Lion
[51:28] Dancers followed by photos for
[51:29] the Lunar New Year and then
[51:33] also Officer David Solo.
[51:34] >> So do you want to do any
[51:38] special introductions now We'll
[51:39] turn it over to the local
[51:39] dancers.
[51:39] >> All right.
[51:43] You haven't seen like Eli and
[51:43] the dancers you're going to get
[52:24] a real treat
[54:25] this
[58:11] was all
[58:49] about
[59:03] I don't have a or
[59:14] the shot.
[59:47] Yeah, you're going to have I
[1:00:01] Have you been You know I got
[1:00:05] you your neck.
[1:02:06] Yes
[1:03:18] You got all right as the crowd
[1:03:22] news out of chambers will get
[1:03:23] on with the rest of the council
[1:03:27] agenda and proceed with
[1:03:28] the approval of the consent
[1:03:31] items.
[1:03:32] Are there any request to pull
[1:03:38] an item by my council colleague
[1:03:39] or not?
[1:03:40] Did you want to pull an item?
[1:03:40] Okay.
[1:03:43] So first we'll start out with
[1:03:43] public comment.
[1:03:47] Clerk Please proceed.
[1:03:48] Thank you.
[1:03:51] Council PRESIDENT Please note
[1:03:52] each speaker will have one
[1:03:53] minute per item per person.
[1:03:55] If you would like to speak on
[1:03:56] three or more items you will
[1:03:56] have a maximum of three
[1:03:57] minutes.
[1:04:00] The consent agenda includes
[1:04:02] items 1053 52 103 107 and s504
[1:04:03] we did not receive any comments
[1:04:08] on items in the via the e
[1:04:08] comment portal.
[1:04:09] Also let me note for the record
[1:04:13] the potential appointments and
[1:04:14] re appointments that are on
[1:04:14] the agenda this morning.
[1:04:15] I don't want to two is
[1:04:15] the potential appointment of
[1:04:18] Christopher Lipski and
[1:04:19] reappointment of DR. Alberto
[1:04:22] Lopez Pulido, Dennis Dunn Fritz
[1:04:23] Friedman and Lee and Kim to
[1:04:23] the Commission for Arts and
[1:04:24] Cultures.
[1:04:27] Item 103 is a potential
[1:04:27] appointment of Schuyler
[1:04:28] McCarran to the Funds
[1:04:29] Commission I don't want to is a
[1:04:31] potential appointment of John
[1:04:32] Akira to the Human Relations
[1:04:35] Commission I don't want to five
[1:04:35] is the potential appointment of
[1:04:36] Eric Christian Gomez to
[1:04:36] the small advisory small
[1:04:40] Business Advisory Board Item
[1:04:41] 106 is the potential
[1:04:41] reappointment of Giovanni
[1:04:44] Ingoglia to the Mission Bay
[1:04:44] Park Committee Item 127 is
[1:04:45] the potential appointments of
[1:04:46] Britton Nelson and Richard
[1:04:49] Meeker Wallace to the Municipal
[1:04:50] Golf Committee.
[1:04:50] We have one speaker here in
[1:04:55] council chambers for item 103
[1:04:55] the Honorable William and Jr if
[1:04:57] you'd like to come up to
[1:05:11] the microphone you'll have one
[1:05:20] minute for your comments to
[1:05:20] the honorable Council members I
[1:05:26] come shameless slee As a father
[1:05:30] for Skyler McKeown I am
[1:05:31] resisting the opportunity to
[1:05:35] embarrass her.
[1:05:36] >> She has a passion for San
[1:05:39] Diego.
[1:05:40] She is a third generation San
[1:05:44] Diegan.
[1:05:45] One of her gifts is mercy.
[1:05:49] She's always since her youth
[1:05:50] had a passion for social
[1:05:54] justice and helping those less
[1:05:59] fortunate.
[1:06:00] >> I remember her looking at me
[1:06:01] with those big brown eyes
[1:06:03] saying Janelle is moving to San
[1:06:04] Diego and he needs a place to
[1:06:08] stay.
[1:06:09] He's homeless.
[1:06:10] So Janelle stayed with us
[1:06:13] the entire summer.
[1:06:18] She has been taking care of
[1:06:19] seniors for free for years
[1:06:23] because she has such a tender
[1:06:24] heart When she was in high
[1:06:29] school that p she was the only
[1:06:32] daughter who insisted that her
[1:06:33] father drive her to school and
[1:06:34] introduce her to all my
[1:06:38] apologies or your time has
[1:06:39] concluded very much vote for my
[1:06:43] daughter As five minute timer
[1:06:44] has started hearing council
[1:06:51] chambers going to those on
[1:06:51] the virtual 7968 If you can
[1:06:52] please unmute and let me know
[1:06:53] which item or items you wish to
[1:06:56] speak to.
[1:06:56] Thank you.
[1:07:00] In her 20s I will be speaking
[1:07:07] on item 1 or 2 excuse me 1 or 2
[1:07:12] through 107 and five All four
[1:07:12] okay.
[1:07:13] >> Okay You'll have three
[1:07:13] minutes.
[1:07:16] Please proceed.
[1:07:16] >> Okay.
[1:07:17] Thank you so much.
[1:07:20] I'm combining 1o2 all the way
[1:07:24] to Windows 7 with my comments
[1:07:25] because there are all these
[1:07:25] wonderful appointments for
[1:07:29] appointments and so forth and I
[1:07:30] really really am excited to
[1:07:34] speak for this because first of
[1:07:34] all thank you to three.
[1:07:39] Thank you Mayor Gloria Thank
[1:07:44] you Director China thank you.
[1:07:44] A city attorney's office Thank
[1:07:45] you City council and your
[1:07:49] districts and all the people
[1:07:50] all these wonderful people that
[1:07:54] have come forward to take on
[1:07:55] these positions Now the mayor
[1:07:59] and his weekly newsletter was
[1:08:00] very good about asking people
[1:08:04] to serve on these commissions
[1:08:04] and committees and so forth and
[1:08:05] just put out a call for people
[1:08:08] to do that.
[1:08:09] Thank you for that.
[1:08:10] Really, really appreciated your
[1:08:13] outreach on that And of course
[1:08:14] Director Tschida, what can we
[1:08:15] say about her?
[1:08:18] She's a dynamo And you know, we
[1:08:23] just it's just a great
[1:08:24] contribution and service and
[1:08:29] thank you to all the people.
[1:08:29] Let's see if I can read through
[1:08:31] real quick here Excuse me Arts
[1:08:37] and culture Funds Commission
[1:08:37] Human Relations Business
[1:08:42] Mission Bay Park Golf Community
[1:08:42] I think that covers it.
[1:08:47] So I'll switch to f 5 or 4.
[1:08:47] Thank you.
[1:08:47] Thank you.
[1:08:48] Thank you.
[1:08:51] Councilmember Rivera we are
[1:08:52] here looking forward to
[1:08:55] the select committee on Cost of
[1:08:56] Living and thank you for giving
[1:08:57] us that heads up about a month
[1:09:00] to prepare for it because we
[1:09:01] need to do our homework and be
[1:09:05] ready for you and we're going
[1:09:06] to have a robust conversation.
[1:09:09] We're going to really looking
[1:09:10] forward to hearing
[1:09:10] the individual stories about
[1:09:14] their cost of living situation
[1:09:15] And so again it's going to be
[1:09:19] robust.
[1:09:20] I just have that feeling.
[1:09:21] Councilmember Ito revered It's
[1:09:24] a great idea.
[1:09:25] Thank you for bringing it
[1:09:26] forward and I look forward to
[1:09:26] it.
[1:09:26] So very much.
[1:09:29] Love to all.
[1:09:30] >> Thank you.
[1:09:30] Next is Blair Beekman.
[1:09:31] If you can please unmute and
[1:09:39] let me know which item or items
[1:09:40] Hi Pressure Beekman Item five
[1:09:44] Door Calendar.
[1:09:45] Okay You have one minute Please
[1:09:45] proceed.
[1:09:49] I hope that's the right number
[1:09:50] Thank you for the legislative
[1:09:52] calendar item for one minute I
[1:09:57] wanted to address you talk
[1:09:58] about ideas of equal
[1:09:58] opportunity contacting
[1:09:59] information I hope that is
[1:10:03] related to you had a council
[1:10:04] item a few weeks ago but they
[1:10:09] were afraid State of the City
[1:10:13] speech that talked about you
[1:10:13] know, the future of equal pay I
[1:10:14] can't quite remember it term
[1:10:18] but it's a very common helpful
[1:10:19] term of how we talk about our
[1:10:23] you know, equal equal pay
[1:10:24] issues in San Diego And that I
[1:10:29] think relates to ideas like
[1:10:29] the waste and that we work on
[1:10:33] those part of it together.
[1:10:33] Good luck in that work in
[1:10:37] the coming years I was
[1:10:37] interesting at the council
[1:10:38] meeting a few weeks ago that
[1:10:42] you talked about items related
[1:10:43] to you know, what could be
[1:10:47] the future of San Diego
[1:10:47] immigration office again and
[1:10:52] that could actually work in
[1:10:52] your sorry your time has
[1:10:53] concluded That does include
[1:10:54] public comment on the consent
[1:10:56] items.
[1:10:56] >> All right.
[1:10:57] Thank you everyone who spoke
[1:10:57] especially the touching
[1:11:01] comments by the father of one
[1:11:01] of the nominees.
[1:11:02] We will now go to council
[1:11:05] member questions and comments
[1:11:05] and entertain a motion for
[1:11:06] the consent agenda and we'll
[1:11:07] start with council member
[1:11:07] Marino.
[1:11:10] Thank you.
[1:11:11] I have comments on item 102
[1:11:12] appointment and reappointment
[1:11:15] to the commission for Arts and
[1:11:15] Culture.
[1:11:16] I'm happy to support
[1:11:21] the reappointment of DR. Albert
[1:11:21] Alberto Lopez Pulido to
[1:11:22] the Community for Arts and
[1:11:26] Culture for the District eight
[1:11:27] Representative Seat DR. Pulido
[1:11:30] is the founding Chair of
[1:11:30] the Department of Ethnic
[1:11:31] Studies at the University of
[1:11:35] San Diego and has been on
[1:11:36] the faculty since 2003.
[1:11:40] He's active with the Chicano
[1:11:41] Park Steering Committee which
[1:11:41] serves as the steward of
[1:11:45] Chicano Park in San Diego.
[1:11:46] He's also the director of
[1:11:50] the Turning Wheel Mobile
[1:11:50] Classroom Project, a
[1:11:51] partnership between the Chicano
[1:11:55] Park Museum and Cultural Center
[1:11:55] and usd that provides mobile
[1:12:00] space for supporting the needs
[1:12:00] and challenges of local
[1:12:01] communities.
[1:12:04] He's also vice chair of
[1:12:04] the Chicano Park Museum and
[1:12:05] Cultural Center Center's
[1:12:09] Advisory Board and DR. Pulido
[1:12:10] does so much for the community
[1:12:15] I know I see him often out in
[1:12:15] the community at community
[1:12:18] events and I'm just I thank you
[1:12:19] for for sharing yourself to
[1:12:23] the community.
[1:12:24] You certainly embody what we
[1:12:28] want in our community members
[1:12:29] and how we want them to be
[1:12:33] active and continue to give
[1:12:34] back even when they've made it
[1:12:34] right.
[1:12:38] So I congratulate and I've just
[1:12:39] I'm so thrilled to have you
[1:12:40] continue on this role on top of
[1:12:42] everything you're doing
[1:12:43] continue to give back to
[1:12:47] the city of San Diego through
[1:12:48] the Commission for Arts and
[1:12:48] Culture.
[1:12:52] So I thank you for that very
[1:12:53] much.
[1:12:55] Finally I will record a no vote
[1:12:56] on item 52 and I will support
[1:13:00] the balance of the consent
[1:13:01] agenda.
[1:13:01] >> Thank you very much and I'll
[1:13:05] take that as a motion to adopt
[1:13:06] Yes, except for the item 52.
[1:13:08] Understood.
[1:13:09] >> All right.
[1:13:10] We'll go next to Councilmember
[1:13:13] Campbell.
[1:13:14] Thank you.
[1:13:15] Council PRESIDENT, I wish to
[1:13:19] speak on two of our consent
[1:13:23] items and I'd like to second
[1:13:23] the motion to accept our
[1:13:27] consent of first of all item 1
[1:13:28] or 2.
[1:13:32] I'm honored that Chris
[1:13:33] Campbell's Kozlowski I know I
[1:13:34] was going to do that Chris
[1:13:37] Glove ski a resident of Ocean
[1:13:38] Beach in our district two will
[1:13:42] be appointed to the Arts and
[1:13:43] Culture Commission.
[1:13:46] Chris was the senior manager
[1:13:47] for Arts and Community
[1:13:48] Partnerships for the San Diego
[1:13:51] County Regional Airport
[1:13:52] Authority which has some
[1:13:52] beautiful art.
[1:13:55] Thank you for that Developing
[1:13:56] programing with artists and
[1:13:57] arts organizations in San Diego
[1:14:01] And he led the creation of
[1:14:01] the New Arts Master Plan and
[1:14:02] worked on the development of
[1:14:06] the arts programing and
[1:14:07] infrastructure for our new
[1:14:07] Terminal one at the airport
[1:14:11] Prior to working at the Airport
[1:14:12] Authority, Chris was cultural
[1:14:12] affairs coordinator at the City
[1:14:16] of Chicago's Department of
[1:14:16] Cultural Affairs and special
[1:14:21] events overseeing the program
[1:14:22] of 80 music and dance concerts
[1:14:26] presented on behalf of the city
[1:14:26] of Chicago.
[1:14:27] In addition, he sits on the San
[1:14:31] Diego Regional Arts and Culture
[1:14:31] Coalition Steering Committee.
[1:14:35] The Obie Planning Board is a
[1:14:35] registered member of
[1:14:36] the American Association of
[1:14:40] Composers Authors Publishers
[1:14:40] and Songwriters of North
[1:14:41] America And given his ample
[1:14:45] experience working in the arts
[1:14:46] and culture world for his
[1:14:50] entire career, I support
[1:14:51] the appointment of Chris Club
[1:14:54] Ski to the Arts and Culture
[1:14:55] Commission and I so appreciate
[1:14:59] your willingness to serve And i
[1:15:00] also want to give a special
[1:15:01] shout out to my friend Fritz
[1:15:04] Friedman who has been appointed
[1:15:05] by the mayor to also serve on
[1:15:09] this commission.
[1:15:10] I would like to also speak on
[1:15:14] item 106 and I am so honored
[1:15:18] that Giovanni and Golia a
[1:15:19] resident of Ocean Beach in our
[1:15:19] district who is willing to be
[1:15:23] reappointed to the mission Bay
[1:15:23] Park Committee.
[1:15:24] Giovanni is an independent
[1:15:27] insurance broker and Medicare
[1:15:28] covered California other
[1:15:28] insurance markets.
[1:15:29] He is also the owner and
[1:15:33] operator of all American carpet
[1:15:33] cleaning.
[1:15:34] Giovanni served on the Ocean
[1:15:38] Beach planning Board for eight
[1:15:38] years the Obie Town Council for
[1:15:39] two years.
[1:15:42] There will be community plan
[1:15:43] Update subcommittee and he
[1:15:43] earned a Bachelor of Science in
[1:15:47] Geography and Urban Planning
[1:15:48] from Illinois State University
[1:15:49] Professional Certificate in
[1:15:52] Urban Planning from uc San
[1:15:56] Diego and given his dedication
[1:15:57] and overall knowledge of such
[1:16:02] diverse subjects I call him
[1:16:03] the Renaissance man I support
[1:16:03] heartily the reappointment
[1:16:07] Giovanni acknowledges to
[1:16:07] the mission.
[1:16:08] Bay Park Committee appreciate
[1:16:12] Joe your your willingness to
[1:16:12] serve again.
[1:16:13] Thank you so much.
[1:16:17] Thank you Counsel PRESIDENT All
[1:16:17] right.
[1:16:18] >> Thank you.
[1:16:18] So we have a motion by
[1:16:19] COUNCILMAN Marino second by
[1:16:20] Councilmember Campbell Go next
[1:16:22] to council member foster Oh
[1:16:22] yes.
[1:16:23] Thank you Council PRESIDENT And
[1:16:26] i would like to just briefly
[1:16:30] comment on item 1 or 3.
[1:16:31] I really would just like to
[1:16:34] take a moment to congratulate
[1:16:34] MS..
[1:16:35] Schuyler McCarran on being
[1:16:36] appointed to the Funds
[1:16:38] Commission.
[1:16:39] I won't spend too much time
[1:16:40] going over your professional
[1:16:40] achievements.
[1:16:44] I think China and the mayor
[1:16:48] outlined that to a great extent
[1:16:48] and just want to congratulate
[1:16:49] you on all the work that you
[1:16:53] have invested in yourself as
[1:16:58] you have accomplished what you
[1:16:58] have accomplished.
[1:16:59] I would like to follow up on
[1:17:01] the comments from your father
[1:17:02] because I think it really
[1:17:07] speaks to your heart and what
[1:17:07] you do in the Encanto community
[1:17:12] And oftentimes you're involved
[1:17:13] in the rec center in doing
[1:17:13] certain things.
[1:17:17] But I like to say that and
[1:17:18] think of it as you are actually
[1:17:22] a part of the rec center and
[1:17:22] the community always there
[1:17:23] working with my staff, talking
[1:17:27] with Tiffany on how you can
[1:17:28] bring more resources ensuring
[1:17:32] that the youth are very well
[1:17:32] taken care of and have
[1:17:33] the amenities even when it
[1:17:34] comes down to their uniforms
[1:17:37] and things of that nature to
[1:17:38] make sure that they are able to
[1:17:42] have a facility that they have
[1:17:43] a safe place, a place that they
[1:17:46] can call home and enjoy
[1:17:47] the community the way you have
[1:17:51] and also the way that I have.
[1:17:52] So just want to congratulate
[1:17:53] you on your appointment and
[1:17:53] look forward to working with
[1:17:57] you as we continue to move
[1:17:57] forward.
[1:17:57] So congratulations.
[1:17:58] All right.
[1:18:00] Thank you, sir.
[1:18:01] >> We'll go next to Council
[1:18:02] PRESIDENT Pro Tem.
[1:18:10] We thank of course PRESIDENT
[1:18:11] Sorry for the delay here on
[1:18:11] item 1 or 2.
[1:18:12] Wanted to take a moment to
[1:18:16] thank Commissioners Lee and Kim
[1:18:16] Fritz Friedman and Dennis
[1:18:17] Doogan on their appointments to
[1:18:19] the Arts and Culture Commission
[1:18:20] Commissioner Kim is the founder
[1:18:21] of Pacific Arts Movement which
[1:18:22] presents the San Diego Asian
[1:18:25] Film Festival.
[1:18:25] She's a former colleague and a
[1:18:26] dear friend who helped put San
[1:18:27] Diego on the map when it comes
[1:18:29] to arts and cinema.
[1:18:30] She's also a yoga instructor
[1:18:31] with many students here in San
[1:18:32] Diego and is actually teaching
[1:18:35] a class right now which is why
[1:18:35] she couldn't make it.
[1:18:36] Congratulations to Leanne on
[1:18:39] her reappointment.
[1:18:40] Commissioner Friedman is
[1:18:41] the PRESIDENT Of Fritz Friedman
[1:18:41] Company and has had a long
[1:18:45] career in the entertainment
[1:18:45] industry as well as has been a
[1:18:46] producer on several film and
[1:18:47] television projects.
[1:18:49] He sits in several boards and
[1:18:49] was an adjunct professor at
[1:18:50] the usc School of
[1:18:51] Communications and Journalism
[1:18:53] at usc.
[1:18:54] I want to congratulate MR.
[1:18:55] Friedman as well.
[1:18:59] And lastly congratulations to
[1:19:00] Commissioner Dennis dessi Dwan
[1:19:03] who we just heard from earlier
[1:19:04] on our Lunar New Year item in
[1:19:04] chambers today.
[1:19:07] Does he have been a pillar in
[1:19:08] the community and over the past
[1:19:09] year has offered invaluable
[1:19:12] insight to the city and
[1:19:13] the Arts and Culture
[1:19:13] Commission.
[1:19:14] The owner of Black Lotus
[1:19:15] Tattoo, the first tattoo studio
[1:19:18] on Convoy Street and
[1:19:18] the founder of the Dwan
[1:19:19] Foundation for the Arts,
[1:19:23] the author of Memento Embracing
[1:19:23] the Darkness and much, much
[1:19:24] more.
[1:19:24] Does he as a leader in the api
[1:19:28] community support supporting
[1:19:29] many of our local cultural
[1:19:29] events as well as having
[1:19:32] recently completed his first
[1:19:32] public mural art where he
[1:19:33] donated over 30 hours of his
[1:19:37] time to paint a dragon Phenix
[1:19:37] in the heart of the convoy
[1:19:38] Asian Cultural District.
[1:19:39] Thank you Commissioner, for
[1:19:41] your presence here today for
[1:19:42] speaking on the lunar year item
[1:19:43] and to speak to the importance
[1:19:46] of our culture and community
[1:19:46] being represented.
[1:19:47] And certainly congratulations
[1:19:51] again on your appointment and
[1:19:51] want to thank the many
[1:19:52] commissioners who are being
[1:19:53] appointed or reappointed for
[1:19:56] their service to the city.
[1:19:56] Thank you.
[1:19:57] Council PRESIDENT.
[1:19:57] Thank you, sir.
[1:19:58] We'll go next to Councilmember
[1:19:58] Lipman.
[1:19:59] Thank you.
[1:20:01] Council PRESIDENT.
[1:20:02] I would like to congratulate
[1:20:02] everybody who is being
[1:20:03] appointed and reappointed as
[1:20:06] city boards and commissions
[1:20:06] today.
[1:20:07] Among them, as has been
[1:20:10] mentioned is District three is
[1:20:11] Fritz Friedman who is being
[1:20:11] reappointed to the Commission
[1:20:12] for Arts and Culture where he
[1:20:14] has served admirably over
[1:20:15] the past several years.
[1:20:16] And I too would like to
[1:20:20] congratulate Chris till
[1:20:21] upscaled his appointment to
[1:20:21] the Commission for Arts and
[1:20:22] Culture Verity organizations
[1:20:24] that benefit from the work of
[1:20:25] the Commissioner in my district
[1:20:29] and MR. Chalabi Ski's extensive
[1:20:30] experience will certainly
[1:20:30] enhance the commission.
[1:20:31] And I want to congratulate
[1:20:33] Cristian Gomez who's being
[1:20:34] appointed to the Small Business
[1:20:34] Advisory Board.
[1:20:35] MR. Gomez has operated
[1:20:39] the Whetstone Wine Bar
[1:20:40] the Baker Sell at Establishment
[1:20:40] known for an adventurous wine
[1:20:43] list award winning scenarios
[1:20:44] and gastronomic small plates.
[1:20:45] I want to thank MR. Gomez MR.
[1:20:48] Chalabi ski and MR. Friedman
[1:20:49] for their service to our city.
[1:20:50] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[1:20:50] All right.
[1:20:53] Thank you.
[1:20:53] >> Next council member Eli
[1:20:54] Rivera.
[1:20:54] All right.
[1:20:58] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[1:20:58] I'm going to just build on
[1:20:59] the comments made by my
[1:21:03] colleague Councilmember Foster
[1:21:03] Judge Judge Karen, you
[1:21:04] mentioned that your daughter
[1:21:08] has Grace and that she must
[1:21:08] have gotten that from you
[1:21:09] because she she would not have
[1:21:12] spared you the embarrassment if
[1:21:13] she was talking about you just
[1:21:16] knowing how proud she is of all
[1:21:17] of your accomplishments.
[1:21:22] I just got to I had a chance to
[1:21:22] know you for a while now and
[1:21:23] I'm really excited to see this
[1:21:26] appointment.
[1:21:26] Kind of reflexively I assumed
[1:21:27] it was for something in
[1:21:31] the arts and when I took
[1:21:31] another look and realized it
[1:21:32] was for the Venice Commission
[1:21:33] that made me even more excited
[1:21:35] and proud for you knowing
[1:21:36] the time and effort that you
[1:21:36] put into building
[1:21:40] the qualifications and resum\
[1:21:41] to be the very, very qualified
[1:21:41] appointee that you are.
[1:21:45] So congratulations on that.
[1:21:46] Thank you for being willing to
[1:21:46] commit your time and service to
[1:21:49] the city.
[1:21:50] And the last thing I'll say is
[1:21:51] I had a chance to go through a
[1:21:52] leadership program with
[1:21:55] Schuyler and Schuyler is one of
[1:21:55] the most unique and authentic
[1:21:56] leaders that I've had an
[1:22:00] opportunity to stand alongside
[1:22:00] And so I'm very excited to see
[1:22:03] you take those skills
[1:22:04] the professional experience
[1:22:05] that you've now developed and
[1:22:08] make sure that the city's funds
[1:22:09] are being taken care of in a
[1:22:10] way that I know will be
[1:22:11] impactful to the people.
[1:22:13] So thank you for your service
[1:22:13] Schuyler.
[1:22:14] >> Congratulations on your
[1:22:18] appointment.
[1:22:18] And with that I'm going to take
[1:22:19] the privilege of a council
[1:22:23] PRESIDENT And pause our meeting
[1:22:23] and allow the students to leave
[1:22:24] so they can make sure they get
[1:22:28] back to class on time.
[1:22:29] So thank you again for joining
[1:22:29] us this morning.
[1:22:33] I hope you learned a little bit
[1:22:33] about how local government
[1:22:34] works and got get to know some
[1:22:42] of your elected officials,
[1:22:43] right?
[1:22:47] >> Yeah And I would just point
[1:22:48] out that these are students
[1:22:48] from Saint Augustine High
[1:22:49] School.
[1:22:52] Saint Augustine is located in
[1:22:52] North Park.
[1:22:53] It attracts students from
[1:22:53] across the region for its
[1:22:57] academic excellence.
[1:22:58] Thank you very much for joining
[1:22:58] us to thank you for your
[1:22:59] interest in civic government.
[1:23:01] Thank you.
[1:23:02] Council PRESIDENT My apologies
[1:23:02] Council member I didn't know
[1:23:03] you wanted to add some more
[1:23:22] comments.
[1:23:23] Actually they're much quieter
[1:23:26] than I would have expected.
[1:23:32] We could have flipped out.
[1:23:32] >> So with that we'll go to
[1:23:36] council member Yvonne Wolpert.
[1:23:37] Thank you and thank you to
[1:23:38] the students for coming in as
[1:23:38] well.
[1:23:39] It's always good to see folks
[1:23:42] getting involved in local
[1:23:42] government.
[1:23:43] I just want to congratulate
[1:23:43] everybody being appointed
[1:23:44] today.
[1:23:46] Your Honor, I'm a lawyer so I
[1:23:47] will always call you Your
[1:23:47] Honor.
[1:23:48] Thank you for coming in today
[1:23:49] and speaking so highly of your
[1:23:51] daughter Schuyler.
[1:23:52] Congratulations.
[1:23:53] Not only are you successful in
[1:23:53] the private sector, you will
[1:23:56] now be very successful in
[1:23:57] the public sector as well.
[1:23:58] I also want to thank MR. Gomes
[1:24:00] for being here from Whetstone.
[1:24:01] It is actually one of my
[1:24:02] absolute favorite businesses in
[1:24:02] the city of San Diego.
[1:24:05] You have the most hospitable
[1:24:06] team at Whetstone.
[1:24:06] You have incredible wine
[1:24:11] selection and we need more
[1:24:11] small businesses like you.
[1:24:12] So I just want to thank you for
[1:24:15] creating such a wonderful space
[1:24:16] in that beautiful area And
[1:24:16] congratulations to everybody.
[1:24:17] >> Thank you.
[1:24:20] All right.
[1:24:21] Thank you.
[1:24:21] With that I too will
[1:24:22] congratulate all
[1:24:26] the appointments and those who
[1:24:26] nominated them in particular
[1:24:27] Item 124.
[1:24:30] Proud to have nominated John
[1:24:30] Secure to serve as a District
[1:24:31] one rep on the Human Relations
[1:24:35] Commission.
[1:24:35] I appreciate your willingness
[1:24:39] to serve our city And item 107
[1:24:39] congratulate District one and
[1:24:43] residents Brittany Nelson on
[1:24:44] your appointment to
[1:24:45] the Municipal Golf Committee.
[1:24:45] And again thank you if you're
[1:24:48] willing to serve in sharing
[1:24:49] some of your personal time on
[1:24:53] behalf of the city and on item
[1:24:54] 5o4 it's an opportunity for
[1:24:54] once again to thank council
[1:24:55] member Ella Rivera for standing
[1:24:58] up to select Committee on Cost
[1:24:58] of Living.
[1:25:02] So with that see no one else on
[1:25:03] the lights We do have a motion
[1:25:06] by Council member Moreno a
[1:25:06] second by Councilmember
[1:25:06] Campbell.
[1:25:09] Clerk Please call the roll I
[1:25:10] sorry of the voting system
[1:25:14] Please cast your vote That does
[1:25:18] pass unanimously 9 to 0 with
[1:25:19] Councilmember Moreno voting no
[1:25:22] in item 52.
[1:25:22] All right.
[1:25:23] We will now take up our morning
[1:25:27] discussion agenda Single item
[1:25:31] please introduce item as 502
[1:25:31] Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[1:25:32] Items five two is the creation
[1:25:36] of Underground Utility District
[1:25:37] for North Claremont six l
[1:25:39] Hamish Alameda for x and 4x1
[1:25:40] and Barrio Logan eight h in
[1:25:40] Kensington 3cc1 and
[1:25:44] the adoption of the final
[1:25:45] mitigated negative declaration
[1:25:48] project number (595)959-4590.
[1:25:49] If you'd like to speak on this
[1:25:53] item please be sure to submit
[1:25:54] Your speaker slips to the high
[1:25:55] lectern and or raise your hand
[1:25:58] by pressing star nine or
[1:25:59] the raise your hand icon.
[1:25:59] >> Thank you very much.
[1:26:02] All right staff as you settle
[1:26:03] in, introduce yourselves for
[1:26:03] the record and let us know how
[1:26:04] much time you need for
[1:26:07] the presentation.
[1:26:08] Good morning, Chelsea Cletus,
[1:26:08] deputy director in
[1:26:12] the Transportation Department.
[1:26:13] With me is Jim Nibong,
[1:26:14] assistant deputy director with
[1:26:16] the utility undergrounding
[1:26:16] Program.
[1:26:17] We will need six minutes for
[1:26:18] our presentation.
[1:26:18] All right.
[1:26:18] Please proceed.
[1:26:21] Thank you very much.
[1:26:22] Today we are bringing forward
[1:26:26] the creation of districts for
[1:26:31] five project areas.
[1:26:32] >> a high level overview of
[1:26:33] this four part process includes
[1:26:36] today our first hearing where
[1:26:37] council will be taking action
[1:26:42] to vote whether or not to hold
[1:26:42] a notice to public hearing for
[1:26:43] these districts.
[1:26:46] Step two which is mailing
[1:26:47] notices to residents and
[1:26:50] utilities.
[1:26:51] The third step is a public
[1:26:56] hearing and the fourth step is
[1:26:56] the approval to dig a slightly
[1:27:00] deeper.
[1:27:01] Today is an opportunity to take
[1:27:06] action that sets a notice to
[1:27:06] hearing to determine that
[1:27:07] district creation is in
[1:27:10] the public's best interest.
[1:27:11] Our goal is to have this set
[1:27:14] four weeks from today FEBRUARY
[1:27:15] 25th, 2025.
[1:27:19] If that action is taken today,
[1:27:20] our next step is to follow
[1:27:24] the public hearing process to
[1:27:24] send emails, mail notices to
[1:27:28] utility owners and property
[1:27:29] owners in these areas.
[1:27:33] The third step is to have
[1:27:38] the notice to public hearing
[1:27:38] where council can find and
[1:27:39] determine that the creation of
[1:27:43] those districts is in
[1:27:43] the general public interest.
[1:27:47] It will also look at the secret
[1:27:48] documentation to approve
[1:27:49] mitigated negative declaration
[1:27:52] as well as notice of exemption
[1:27:53] for these items and then per
[1:27:58] the city's undergrounding
[1:27:58] utilities procedural ordinance.
[1:28:02] It will assign responsibility
[1:28:03] so the creation of these
[1:28:03] districts then assigns
[1:28:07] responsibilities to utility
[1:28:07] companies to convert their
[1:28:08] overhead lines to underground
[1:28:12] facilities.
[1:28:13] It also puts responsibility on
[1:28:13] property owners to either
[1:28:17] cooperate with the city to
[1:28:22] convert service connections or
[1:28:22] to self perform those service
[1:28:23] connections.
[1:28:27] And then once those items are
[1:28:28] approved we will be able to
[1:28:28] move forward with notice to
[1:28:31] proceed design, construct,
[1:28:32] construction etc. And this is a
[1:28:36] high level map of the locations
[1:28:37] of the five districts we are
[1:28:41] proposing to sort of get a
[1:28:42] little bit more granular.
[1:28:46] We have six ell North Claremont
[1:28:47] in Council District two we have
[1:28:51] both for x as well as 4x1 in
[1:28:51] council district four.
[1:28:56] We have Project eight h which
[1:28:59] is in Council District eight
[1:29:00] and Project three cc one and
[1:29:06] Council District nine.
[1:29:07] To reiterate staff
[1:29:07] recommendation today is to
[1:29:11] approve a resolution to set a
[1:29:12] public hearing date to consider
[1:29:16] the formation of the subject
[1:29:19] districts on FEBRUARY 25th
[1:29:20] 2025.
[1:29:20] And with that we are happy to
[1:29:21] answer any questions.
[1:29:24] Thank you.
[1:29:25] >> All right.
[1:29:25] Thank you for the presentation.
[1:29:26] Clerk Please proceed with
[1:29:27] public comment.
[1:29:27] Thank you.
[1:29:30] Counsel PRESIDENT I will note
[1:29:31] for the record that there was
[1:29:32] one comment in favor for item
[1:29:35] as or to submitted through our
[1:29:35] e comment form and that was
[1:29:36] distributed to the council Here
[1:29:37] in council chambers we have
[1:29:39] Doreen Diaz.
[1:29:40] You'll have two minutes.
[1:29:44] Please proceed.
[1:29:45] Thank you.
[1:29:49] I am in favor of this project
[1:29:54] but I am against the p did
[1:29:59] misuse of the name of my
[1:29:59] neighborhood.
[1:30:03] There are two completely
[1:30:03] separate neighborhood.
[1:30:07] One is called Ham Russia
[1:30:12] neighborhood And across the way
[1:30:13] is Alameda neighborhood.
[1:30:17] They are not one neighborhood.
[1:30:18] I am so fed up with seeing
[1:30:22] secret report and seeing maps.
[1:30:22] COUNCILMAN Henry Foster heard
[1:30:27] this personally on SEPTEMBER
[1:30:27] 21st at the Living Well center
[1:30:31] from me as well as FEBRUARY
[1:30:31] 2024.
[1:30:36] The maps are all wrong.
[1:30:36] The Planning Department is
[1:30:41] approving reports they approved
[1:30:45] a air quality report that said
[1:30:46] the Skyline Neighborhood
[1:30:50] the Encanto Planning Committee
[1:30:52] Well, Hamish is in the skyline
[1:30:56] Paradise Hills Planning
[1:30:56] Committee.
[1:30:57] So if the planning committee
[1:31:01] can't see mistakes such as some
[1:31:01] company spendthrift company
[1:31:05] reviewing an Encanto planning
[1:31:06] map when it's the skyline
[1:31:10] Paradise Hills planning map
[1:31:11] that's a serious problem.
[1:31:15] That means there were proving
[1:31:16] report without looking at them.
[1:31:20] So once again I am in favor of
[1:31:20] this.
[1:31:21] I strongly suggest you do a
[1:31:21] public hearing.
[1:31:25] Notice I did not hear during
[1:31:26] this presentation what the cost
[1:31:29] would be to homeowners.
[1:31:30] Yes people have wanted this
[1:31:31] undergrounding for a decade but
[1:31:35] we need to know the cost and
[1:31:35] it's going to take at least 90
[1:31:36] days probably for people to
[1:31:39] come up with money if it's
[1:31:40] going to be more than a couple
[1:31:40] hundred dollars.
[1:31:44] So we need a public notice and
[1:31:48] I will be going to every house
[1:31:48] within 300ft ensuring that they
[1:31:49] do get one.
[1:31:50] Thank you for that concluding
[1:31:53] comment.
[1:31:54] I started the five minute time
[1:31:55] we're hearing council chambers
[1:31:55] going to those participating
[1:31:56] online.
[1:31:58] We currently have five speakers
[1:31:59] starting with Lori Saldana.
[1:32:02] If you can please unmute.
[1:32:02] Yes.
[1:32:03] Can you hear me?
[1:32:03] Yes.
[1:32:07] Please proceed.
[1:32:08] >> So I'm calling about
[1:32:11] the North Claremont proposal
[1:32:12] for Block six l and I need to
[1:32:16] ask what happened to the prior
[1:32:21] block that was designated back
[1:32:22] in 2019 as Prop block 6k2 for
[1:32:26] an underground utility
[1:32:26] district.
[1:32:27] If you look at that map you'll
[1:32:28] see it's north on Appleton
[1:32:31] going northward up to the end
[1:32:32] of the north Claremont area.
[1:32:35] But the street which is
[1:32:36] bordered just to the south of
[1:32:40] that we received a notice
[1:32:41] almost six years ago of an
[1:32:42] underground utility district
[1:32:46] and nothing has been done.
[1:32:46] Now I know there was a
[1:32:47] renegotiation of the franchise.
[1:32:50] I know there was covid But in
[1:32:51] the meantime another utility
[1:32:55] district for undergrounding was
[1:32:55] announced to the south of this
[1:33:00] neighborhood and others went to
[1:33:00] the north of this neighborhood.
[1:33:01] But the one that was announced
[1:33:05] on MAY 13, 2019 in a letter to
[1:33:06] property owners saying that
[1:33:09] the block 6k2 underground
[1:33:09] utility district was going to
[1:33:14] be formed has just apparently
[1:33:19] disappeared from the process
[1:33:19] And I have reached out to
[1:33:24] the offices I went to
[1:33:24] presentations on the other
[1:33:25] districts.
[1:33:25] No one can explain where
[1:33:29] the process is so I will
[1:33:30] continue asking and showing up
[1:33:30] and requesting information.
[1:33:33] All of these neighborhoods are
[1:33:34] within a block or two of
[1:33:38] canyons and open space and it
[1:33:42] is a fire hazard to have these
[1:33:43] utilities aboveground.
[1:33:44] And for those few of us who
[1:33:47] still have maintained mature
[1:33:48] trees as part of the Urban
[1:33:52] Forestry Initiative and are
[1:33:53] doing our best to maintain them
[1:33:53] even with overhead lines it is
[1:33:57] adding a cost and a burden
[1:33:58] because of having to trim it
[1:34:02] back more often And so these
[1:34:03] are all real costs and time
[1:34:08] costs and I would appreciate an
[1:34:08] update from Jennifer Campbell's
[1:34:09] office on the status of six k
[1:34:11] to your time to you included
[1:34:12] Next is 7968 If you can please
[1:34:23] unmute Thank you The city clerk
[1:34:24] out a district three a decision
[1:34:26] in my district but I really
[1:34:30] when I saw and any in there I
[1:34:31] immediately said I want to look
[1:34:31] at this.
[1:34:36] So a couple of things I heard
[1:34:39] that there's five districts so
[1:34:40] I heard the 4x1 and the 4x2 and
[1:34:43] that makes it five So I hope
[1:34:44] that clarifies for the public
[1:34:48] how that breaks down The final
[1:34:52] mitigated negative declarations
[1:34:53] through the years.
[1:34:54] I found those things to be so
[1:34:58] important for all of you and I
[1:34:59] know you always look at them
[1:35:03] and make sure that they're
[1:35:03] kosher before you adopt them.
[1:35:07] Setting the public hearing Date
[1:35:08] I love public hearings and this
[1:35:12] is so I can even put the word
[1:35:13] out at how important this is
[1:35:13] for the public.
[1:35:14] So thank you.
[1:35:17] Thank you.
[1:35:18] No question On the core you had
[1:35:21] that wonderful chart.
[1:35:25] It was scary but there was a
[1:35:26] 191 million total of I think
[1:35:30] there were well 4 or 5 items
[1:35:31] there I saw for four districts.
[1:35:35] So when and how it did physical
[1:35:35] considerate fiscal
[1:35:38] considerations were zero not
[1:35:38] something in a year or
[1:35:39] something.
[1:35:43] When and how will the cost hit
[1:35:44] a budget So and that word
[1:35:49] estimated cost always scares me
[1:35:50] when I'm involves a big project
[1:35:50] and they're complicated and
[1:35:53] with our economic cycles God
[1:35:53] only knows what an estimated
[1:35:58] cost means.
[1:35:58] So thank you.
[1:35:59] Thank you.
[1:35:59] This is important.
[1:36:02] Thank you Department for your
[1:36:03] presentation to all Thank you.
[1:36:06] Next is David Monti.
[1:36:11] >> If you can please unmute.
[1:36:11] >> Thank you Council members.
[1:36:12] My comment is just to let
[1:36:16] the council members of this two
[1:36:17] for 89 that your staffs have a
[1:36:21] responsibility with to work
[1:36:22] with their community planning
[1:36:25] groups After the second hearing
[1:36:25] to follow the advice of
[1:36:30] the utility undergrounding
[1:36:30] the advisory committee.
[1:36:31] >> So this is not just
[1:36:35] something for the utilities in
[1:36:35] the city.
[1:36:36] >> There is some community
[1:36:36] participation as well.
[1:36:39] Thank you.
[1:36:40] Thank you.
[1:36:40] Next is John Stump.
[1:36:44] If you can please unmute maybe
[1:36:49] Thank you very much as dg and e
[1:36:50] is the most expensive utility
[1:36:54] in the nation it's the most
[1:36:55] expensive utility in the nation
[1:36:58] because the vote of this
[1:37:03] council particularly
[1:37:04] the deciding vote of COUNCILMAN
[1:37:09] Then PRESIDENT Shawn e Rivera
[1:37:09] now you've got you're proposing
[1:37:13] next I agree with all
[1:37:14] the previous speakers
[1:37:17] particularly the speaker No on
[1:37:22] footnote on the footnote you're
[1:37:23] creating special districts and
[1:37:27] you're going to associate fees.
[1:37:28] Those fees can only be used for
[1:37:32] that specific benefit, not for
[1:37:33] any assistance to the general
[1:37:37] fund.
[1:37:38] That's the law under
[1:37:38] the California Constitution.
[1:37:42] I particularly concern when you
[1:37:42] set up these special utility
[1:37:47] districts that you've granted a
[1:37:47] franchise to a company that's
[1:37:52] making that's the most
[1:37:52] expensive and is making
[1:37:56] millions in profit and paying
[1:37:57] their executives millions that
[1:38:01] now you going to tax these
[1:38:02] properties to put their lines
[1:38:07] underground when it should have
[1:38:07] been a cost absorbed by
[1:38:12] the franchise Whatever you do
[1:38:12] and it looks like you're headed
[1:38:16] down this road because people
[1:38:16] want their utilities
[1:38:21] underground to make sure that
[1:38:24] when we pay the $100 million
[1:38:25] here to underground these
[1:38:29] utilities that whatever is put
[1:38:30] into those conduits belongs to
[1:38:33] the city of San Diego.
[1:38:34] And when a future council
[1:38:39] decides to make it a public
[1:38:40] utility we don't have to pay
[1:38:40] for those wires.
[1:38:44] You had a third time.
[1:38:45] >> Thank you very much.
[1:38:45] Bye bye.
[1:38:49] Thank you.
[1:38:50] Blair Wickman As our final
[1:38:50] speaker, the financial crisis
[1:38:53] concluded There we are all
[1:38:53] right.
[1:38:54] Thank you And thanks to
[1:38:55] the words of the previous
[1:38:58] speaker, MR. Stump and nice to
[1:38:58] hear.
[1:38:59] I wish I had better depth to
[1:39:03] understand any subject Growing
[1:39:07] up in the 80s it became a free
[1:39:08] market system in how we would
[1:39:11] use and place our utility and
[1:39:12] in offer maintenance.
[1:39:16] I don't know if that was such a
[1:39:16] great idea.
[1:39:17] We've been trained up in
[1:39:21] the Bay Area to bring back, you
[1:39:22] know, city owned utilities and
[1:39:25] city managed utility.
[1:39:26] Uh, good luck What MR. Stump
[1:39:27] has offered that I think it
[1:39:31] could be a really good system
[1:39:31] if we are a very organized
[1:39:32] system if you want to practice
[1:39:35] it I think you can bring some
[1:39:35] good results.
[1:39:39] Good luck on those efforts.
[1:39:40] I'm also thankful that you are
[1:39:40] thinking of these sort of
[1:39:41] things.
[1:39:43] So grateful.
[1:39:43] Thank you.
[1:39:48] It's a way to address wildfire
[1:39:48] danger for the future that
[1:39:53] we're trying to consider ways
[1:39:54] It's it's to me I'm trying to
[1:39:55] learn It can be a combination
[1:39:58] of things of how wildfires take
[1:39:58] place And we have it can be
[1:39:59] manmade.
[1:40:02] It can be natural.
[1:40:03] We have to kind of all be
[1:40:07] responsible and on alert in our
[1:40:12] fire issues in the future.
[1:40:12] I think we could have made
[1:40:13] steps to not for things not to
[1:40:17] happen in to San Diego the way
[1:40:18] they have We have we have to
[1:40:21] want to really care and not not
[1:40:26] when in excitement we are an
[1:40:27] event like what's happening in
[1:40:27] L.A. Happens that we don't
[1:40:31] offer a copycat and so good
[1:40:31] luck how we're doing
[1:40:36] responsible good practices by
[1:40:36] undergrounding.
[1:40:37] It's a part of the system of
[1:40:41] learning and in overall care
[1:40:41] and how we practice our
[1:40:42] practices in the future that we
[1:40:46] don't want to harm each other.
[1:40:46] That has to be a reminder and
[1:40:50] that we do good government
[1:40:51] practices in the following
[1:40:51] months and don't go crazy on
[1:40:52] our practices.
[1:40:55] Thank you.
[1:40:56] >> Thank you.
[1:40:56] That does conclude public
[1:40:57] comment and items 502 All
[1:40:57] right.
[1:40:58] Thank you.
[1:41:00] Anybody that called in we'll
[1:41:00] now go to my colleagues for
[1:41:01] questions and comments
[1:41:02] entertain a motion.
[1:41:05] We'll start out with council
[1:41:05] member Elio Rivera.
[1:41:06] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[1:41:09] Thank you for the work on this.
[1:41:09] I just will note the importance
[1:41:13] of undergrounding in areas
[1:41:14] along urban canyons.
[1:41:15] The area outlined in Kensington
[1:41:19] does run very near to urban
[1:41:19] canyons and so there's a there
[1:41:23] is a legitimate safety
[1:41:24] enhancement through the that
[1:41:24] would occur through
[1:41:29] the undergrounding of these
[1:41:29] wires.
[1:41:30] So thank you for your work on
[1:41:30] this.
[1:41:31] I will move staff
[1:41:33] recommendation Council
[1:41:33] PRESIDENT All right we have a
[1:41:34] motion by council member Yellow
[1:41:38] Rivera and we'll have a second
[1:41:42] by council member Marti von
[1:41:42] Wolpert.
[1:41:47] Think about it such not seeing
[1:41:48] anybody else in lights Have a
[1:41:52] couple of questions until you
[1:41:53] all have come to
[1:41:53] the Environment Committee Over
[1:41:54] the past three years we've seen
[1:41:57] some updates.
[1:41:57] We've seen some candid
[1:41:58] conversations about
[1:42:02] the struggles a number of
[1:42:03] people spoke about like we were
[1:42:07] charging new fees or we were
[1:42:07] creating.
[1:42:11] Can you clarify that in fact
[1:42:12] this that there is not going to
[1:42:16] be any charges to the property
[1:42:16] owners in any of these
[1:42:17] districts, is that correct?
[1:42:17] Yes.
[1:42:21] Your understanding is correct.
[1:42:22] So this is funded by a
[1:42:26] surcharge which is a percentage
[1:42:26] of the utility bill that goes
[1:42:27] into the surcharge fund and
[1:42:31] that is what pays for all
[1:42:32] underground throughout
[1:42:32] the entire city.
[1:42:35] There are no new fees or cost
[1:42:36] requirements on any subject
[1:42:36] residents okay.
[1:42:37] And it's a good reminder that
[1:42:40] everybody pays that surcharge
[1:42:41] Even if your community was
[1:42:41] built with underground
[1:42:45] utilities at the get go going
[1:42:46] forward And I think the only
[1:42:50] question is if their electrical
[1:42:50] panel is substandard or not
[1:42:51] according to code that there
[1:42:55] MAY be some issues there that
[1:42:56] need to be resolved.
[1:42:56] >> Yes.
[1:42:58] To clarify that piece.
[1:43:03] >> It's not to put them to a
[1:43:03] not to do anything more than
[1:43:09] what is required by the code to
[1:43:09] bring it up to standard And and
[1:43:12] I know that there has been some
[1:43:13] communication problems in
[1:43:17] the past by folks understanding
[1:43:18] what today's action would mean
[1:43:23] So one presumes that you come
[1:43:24] back in a week excuse me in a
[1:43:25] month and this is going to be
[1:43:27] adopted by the council.
[1:43:28] When would people actually see
[1:43:32] folks on the ground and
[1:43:33] starting the undergrounding
[1:43:33] process 2025 right now?
[1:43:37] Yeah, that's a great question.
[1:43:38] So as you know council
[1:43:42] PRESIDENT These projects are
[1:43:43] large infrastructure community
[1:43:46] improvement projects that span
[1:43:47] 5 to 7 years sometimes.
[1:43:50] So once we come back and
[1:43:51] council takes the action to
[1:43:51] approve these districts that
[1:43:56] will then allow us to go to
[1:44:00] into a notice to proceed then
[1:44:01] we do base maps etc. After all
[1:44:04] that data is completed we have
[1:44:05] a design portion that can
[1:44:09] sometimes sometimes take up to
[1:44:10] one year to 18 months to
[1:44:12] complete during that time at
[1:44:13] around 60% we have a community
[1:44:17] forum so that is one area that
[1:44:18] we are we improve for getting
[1:44:21] the community's input.
[1:44:22] After that we go into a
[1:44:26] construction time frame and
[1:44:26] after all the design is
[1:44:27] completed we do another public
[1:44:31] forum for for construction and
[1:44:32] construction can last depending
[1:44:36] on the phase anywhere where
[1:44:36] between 1 and 4 years including
[1:44:41] the very last section which is
[1:44:42] after the polls come down and
[1:44:42] all of the wires have been
[1:44:46] underground it we do community
[1:44:47] improvement So things like
[1:44:50] paving the road curb cut outs,
[1:44:50] tree planting and then we
[1:44:51] upgrade any kind of
[1:44:55] streetlights that are
[1:44:55] necessary.
[1:44:56] So when something comes before
[1:45:00] this body to approve to be
[1:45:00] approved, there are it goes
[1:45:05] into a lot of design for
[1:45:05] several years So people might
[1:45:10] not see, you know, actual
[1:45:10] the ground actually being
[1:45:11] trenched for several years.
[1:45:15] I will also add that my staff
[1:45:16] because of these communication
[1:45:20] struggles in the past I have
[1:45:21] staff that were directed to
[1:45:25] look at the overall customer
[1:45:25] journey and how many current
[1:45:26] touches we have during that
[1:45:30] customer journey.
[1:45:31] We found a good chunk of
[1:45:34] communication upfront but not a
[1:45:35] lot of communication during
[1:45:35] construction So we've
[1:45:39] identified those gaps and staff
[1:45:40] are currently developing
[1:45:40] additional communications so we
[1:45:44] can make sure that residents
[1:45:45] are more up to date more
[1:45:45] frequently.
[1:45:49] >> All right.
[1:45:50] I think key thing I think for
[1:45:53] anybody listening and this is
[1:45:54] we're talking several years
[1:45:58] going forward and you know, to
[1:45:59] be blunt, it's hard for me to
[1:46:03] support this item given how
[1:46:04] many projects that are actually
[1:46:05] construction ready that are
[1:46:08] just kind of stuck and not
[1:46:09] moving forward.
[1:46:10] Certainly some in my district
[1:46:13] perhaps and others others that
[1:46:14] are already in the design queue
[1:46:18] and we don't seem to have
[1:46:19] the ability and I'm not going
[1:46:23] to point fingers about who to
[1:46:24] blame and except maybe to blame
[1:46:27] everybody in the whole system
[1:46:28] And the way we do this what was
[1:46:29] originally an ambitious ideas
[1:46:32] but given the funding that we
[1:46:33] actually generate through our
[1:46:34] surcharge process and
[1:46:38] the dramatic increase in costs
[1:46:38] in delivering these you know, I
[1:46:39] think there's some serious
[1:46:42] questions about whether
[1:46:43] the dollars are there to even
[1:46:44] fund the ones that are in
[1:46:47] the queue already.
[1:46:48] And so I would hope that
[1:46:51] Councilmember Rivera would
[1:46:52] schedule at the Environment
[1:46:53] Committee an update on utility
[1:46:57] undergrounding to actually wrap
[1:46:57] our head around And it's hard
[1:47:01] for me to go back to my
[1:47:02] constituents and say we're
[1:47:02] already in the queue.
[1:47:06] We're not making any progress.
[1:47:07] Why do you keep creating new
[1:47:08] districts, diverting staff
[1:47:12] time, taking precious dollars
[1:47:12] away, creating new ones when
[1:47:13] you can't get the old ones done
[1:47:15] And I'm you know I'm not trying
[1:47:20] to single you out on this And I
[1:47:21] think both of you know where I
[1:47:25] come from on this but I think
[1:47:25] we need to think differently
[1:47:26] ometer And I know we change
[1:47:27] some of the priorities of which
[1:47:30] districts get identified
[1:47:30] through the through
[1:47:34] the agreements with city Jane
[1:47:35] and utility companies but I'm
[1:47:36] going to register a no vote on
[1:47:39] this just to kind of put an
[1:47:40] exclamation point on this so
[1:47:44] that we can come back and
[1:47:44] figure out what we're going to
[1:47:45] do and how we're actually going
[1:47:49] to show that we can deliver for
[1:47:49] all the dollars that we've
[1:47:50] collected which actually still
[1:47:51] very little when you really
[1:47:54] total it all up.
[1:47:55] But I know my constituents are
[1:47:55] not going to be particularly
[1:47:59] happy that we're identifying
[1:47:59] brand new districts and it's
[1:48:00] not the location of
[1:48:00] the districts.
[1:48:01] It's just let's get the ones
[1:48:04] that are already on the books
[1:48:04] done.
[1:48:09] So with that we have a motion
[1:48:09] by council member council
[1:48:10] member Eli Rivera, a second by
[1:48:12] council member Yvonne Wolpert.
[1:48:18] >> Please call the clerk or two
[1:48:19] The vote is just on Please cast
[1:48:19] your vote.
[1:48:24] Oh you can change and that
[1:48:29] passes 8 to 1 with Council
[1:48:30] PRESIDENT LaCava voting no.
[1:48:34] >> All right with that we'll
[1:48:35] take up non agenda public
[1:48:36] comment The council members
[1:48:38] respect and appreciate
[1:48:39] the public input and are fully
[1:48:39] committed to protecting every
[1:48:40] participant's free speech
[1:48:43] rights at Council and committee
[1:48:44] meetings.
[1:48:44] Clerk Please proceed with
[1:48:48] public comment.
[1:48:49] Thank you.
[1:48:50] Council PRESIDENT Pearl 2.7 on
[1:48:50] general public comment is an
[1:48:51] opportunity for members of
[1:48:53] the public to comment on items
[1:48:54] that are not on the agenda but
[1:48:55] within the subject matter
[1:48:55] jurisdiction of the City
[1:48:55] Council.
[1:48:58] Each speaker will have two
[1:48:58] minutes.
[1:48:59] Please note if there are eight
[1:49:00] or more speakers on a single
[1:49:02] topic the maximum time for
[1:49:03] the topic will be 16 minutes.
[1:49:04] If you are in chambers please
[1:49:04] limit your speaker slip If
[1:49:07] you're joining us virtually
[1:49:08] please raise your hand by
[1:49:09] tapping the raise your hand
[1:49:11] icon or if you are calling
[1:49:12] participant Star nine Doreen
[1:49:20] I'd like to come up Yes, thank
[1:49:21] you.
[1:49:21] I would like to remind
[1:49:25] everybody here that this
[1:49:26] council, whether you were
[1:49:30] PRESIDENT Or not, has had many
[1:49:31] grand jury findings due to lack
[1:49:34] of accountability, due to lack
[1:49:39] of transparency and in fact
[1:49:40] the one council policy that was
[1:49:43] demanded to be created 000 dash
[1:49:48] 33 and 32 isn't even being
[1:49:52] complied with because it says
[1:49:53] every two years and the two
[1:49:56] years expired DECEMBER 16th,
[1:49:57] 2024 there's supposed to be
[1:49:58] community input which should
[1:50:02] have started last JULY and and
[1:50:03] it should have been done in
[1:50:07] OCTOBER for a new vote in
[1:50:07] DECEMBER.
[1:50:08] So we need this council to
[1:50:12] actually try to stop following
[1:50:12] council policies.
[1:50:20] I submitted a ten page memo on
[1:50:21] a lot of inequities that are
[1:50:26] occurring within District four.
[1:50:30] We do we have homes built 1930
[1:50:30] 1940.
[1:50:31] We have some of the oldest
[1:50:31] homes in the city.
[1:50:36] We have military barracks that
[1:50:37] were turned into homes in image
[1:50:40] are there is lack of
[1:50:41] transportation and considering
[1:50:44] here Mazar I a transit priority
[1:50:45] area is blatant fraud.
[1:50:49] We do not have bus rapid
[1:50:50] transportation You would have
[1:50:50] to do eminent domain on at
[1:50:54] least a hundred homes before
[1:50:55] you could ever get rapid which
[1:50:58] defeats the purpose that
[1:50:59] the purpose of sb nine once
[1:51:03] again the homeowner act it was
[1:51:03] not supposed to be for
[1:51:04] investors and developers and
[1:51:08] Mayor Tory is friends.
[1:51:09] It was supposed to be for
[1:51:12] homeowners and sb nine is
[1:51:13] supported But this council
[1:51:17] policy with mobility choice
[1:51:18] sustainable development is not.
[1:51:21] >> Thank you.
[1:51:22] Thank you for that concluding
[1:51:23] comment.
[1:51:23] I thank you for your time for
[1:51:27] coming to the mlk I'm sorry
[1:51:28] the five minute timer I'm going
[1:51:28] to those participating online.
[1:51:30] We currently have nine speakers
[1:51:31] in the queue starting with
[1:51:35] Terri and Skelly.
[1:51:36] >> Good morning City Council
[1:51:40] members PRESIDENT Joe LaCava My
[1:51:41] name is Terrence Skelly.
[1:51:42] I'm a parent, a public health
[1:51:42] educator and a planning group
[1:51:46] attendee Recently DR. On It
[1:51:47] Live an emergency room and
[1:51:50] addiction medicine specialist
[1:51:51] provided a presentation
[1:51:51] entitled and I quote It's just
[1:51:55] pot What's the problem?
[1:51:56] And quote This presentation was
[1:51:57] appropriate for teens their
[1:52:00] parents, public health
[1:52:01] educators and legislators that
[1:52:05] care about the young people of
[1:52:06] their city And you can also
[1:52:09] watch it on YouTube, She begins
[1:52:10] by explaining that as an
[1:52:10] emergency room doctor in San
[1:52:14] Diego she was gravely,
[1:52:15] personally and professionally
[1:52:16] dismayed that there are there
[1:52:20] was a 690% increase in
[1:52:20] emergency room visits where
[1:52:24] the primary diagnosis was
[1:52:29] associated with marijuana.
[1:52:30] This equates to 37 cases a day
[1:52:31] on average at the county's
[1:52:34] hospital.
[1:52:35] Imagine the costs of
[1:52:36] the parents, their families,
[1:52:39] employers to the medical staff
[1:52:39] perhaps even to the police
[1:52:40] department.
[1:52:43] 17% of all adult smoking pot
[1:52:44] are clinically diagnosed with
[1:52:47] cannabis syndrome disorder.
[1:52:51] Among daily users it raises to
[1:52:52] 50% And DR. Love described
[1:52:53] the misery of cannabis
[1:52:56] withdrawal including sweating,
[1:53:01] tremors, sleeplessness, severe
[1:53:02] agitation and depression.
[1:53:03] >> And why do I mention this
[1:53:06] today the city council and
[1:53:06] others are looking at what
[1:53:11] causes the expenditures to our
[1:53:11] city services.
[1:53:16] Certainly marijuana and drug
[1:53:16] use should be at the top of
[1:53:17] everyone's list.
[1:53:21] Thank you for hearing my
[1:53:21] concerns this morning.
[1:53:22] >> Thank you.
[1:53:22] Next is Becky Rapp.
[1:53:30] If you can please unmute.
[1:53:30] Hello Council PRESIDENT LaCava
[1:53:35] and council members My name is
[1:53:35] Becky Rapp and I'm here today
[1:53:36] to bring to your attention a
[1:53:40] statement released by the Drug
[1:53:41] Enforcement Administration.
[1:53:44] Derek Marks the new interim
[1:53:45] administrator of the dea has
[1:53:46] brought attention to
[1:53:49] the damaging effects marijuana
[1:53:50] is having on our young people.
[1:53:51] Balch recognizes that updated
[1:53:54] research has indicated that
[1:53:55] the high potency thc marijuana
[1:53:55] is causing increased health
[1:53:59] risks particularly with
[1:54:00] the mental health of young
[1:54:00] people increasing
[1:54:04] the likelihood of volatile and
[1:54:04] violent behaviors.
[1:54:05] He stated I quote Obsessive pot
[1:54:09] smoking is associated with
[1:54:10] school shootings and that
[1:54:10] politics have been placed over
[1:54:14] public safety.
[1:54:15] The dea stated that the average
[1:54:19] percentage of thc which is
[1:54:20] the psychoactive cannabinoid in
[1:54:20] marijuana known for giving
[1:54:23] users a quote high feeling has
[1:54:24] been steadily increasing and
[1:54:28] reached an all time high
[1:54:29] significantly increasing
[1:54:29] the mental health problems of
[1:54:30] millions of Americans.
[1:54:33] The dea is concerned that their
[1:54:34] updated research is not getting
[1:54:35] the attention it deserves.
[1:54:39] I would suggest that the city
[1:54:39] request a detailed presentation
[1:54:40] from the county's health and
[1:54:43] Human Services Agency providing
[1:54:44] a detailed scientific analysis
[1:54:47] of the health risks surrounding
[1:54:48] high potency thc that is
[1:54:48] available today.
[1:54:52] This information should be
[1:54:53] publicly acknowledged as it's
[1:54:54] time to put people over
[1:54:54] profits.
[1:54:58] Following the lead of the dea
[1:55:03] and director Mouth thank you.
[1:55:03] Thank you.
[1:55:04] Next is 7968 If you can please
[1:55:08] unmute and thank you.
[1:55:13] >> Third point page tracing out
[1:55:13] of district three.
[1:55:17] I can't get my mind and my
[1:55:17] heart off of that.
[1:55:21] The most increase in crime was
[1:55:22] in hate crimes.
[1:55:26] So I spent some time one
[1:55:27] evening googling it and I want
[1:55:32] to share this with you.
[1:55:33] Mostly that is quote What are
[1:55:37] the root cause of hate?
[1:55:41] Hate is based in issues of
[1:55:42] power and control.
[1:55:46] Hate comes from the idea that
[1:55:47] certain people can and should
[1:55:51] have power and control over
[1:55:51] others.
[1:55:55] These ideas come from our
[1:55:56] history with certain people
[1:56:01] took power over others.
[1:56:01] This is my example.
[1:56:05] Native Americans who wanted
[1:56:06] their land, their resources and
[1:56:15] so forth also included on
[1:56:16] Google was their top five
[1:56:20] states in regards to hate
[1:56:20] crimes.
[1:56:21] >> Guess who's at the top?
[1:56:25] California.
[1:56:25] 1970 and 2023.
[1:56:29] New Jersey is second.
[1:56:30] New York is third.
[1:56:31] Washington is fourth.
[1:56:34] And Massachusetts is five.
[1:56:39] So here are my final comments
[1:56:40] on this And I'm continuing to
[1:56:40] do my own personal work on this
[1:56:44] And what can I do Shed our very
[1:56:49] old outdated skin.
[1:56:50] Like the year of the snake.
[1:56:54] Let's join together and do much
[1:56:55] more and remember these words
[1:56:59] which I have said time and time
[1:57:00] again through the years to all
[1:57:00] of you.
[1:57:01] We are all biased.
[1:57:04] We are all flawed.
[1:57:09] We are all wounded and we all
[1:57:09] bleed red.
[1:57:10] Thank you so much for
[1:57:11] listening.
[1:57:14] Let's join together and do my
[1:57:14] apologies.
[1:57:15] >> Your time has concluded.
[1:57:18] John Stump if you can please
[1:57:19] unmute.
[1:57:19] I also know that the five
[1:57:20] minute timer has concluded
[1:57:21] there are seven speakers in
[1:57:21] the queue and no additional
[1:57:27] speakers will be taken.
[1:57:27] >> Thank you very much for
[1:57:28] the presentation again by MRS.
[1:57:28] Doreen.
[1:57:32] I too am No one Footnote seven.
[1:57:36] Counsel Thank you Council
[1:57:37] Member PRESIDENT LaCava for
[1:57:42] being a ceremonial no vote on
[1:57:42] this surcharge.
[1:57:47] You know we are calling it a
[1:57:47] surcharge.
[1:57:48] And as he said everybody is
[1:57:53] paying it.
[1:57:58] But that's just a scheme around
[1:58:03] the Constitution and it is
[1:58:04] something that the city council
[1:58:08] led by COUNCILMAN Sean Eli
[1:58:13] Rivera impose on
[1:58:13] the population.
[1:58:18] So they're going to surcharge
[1:58:18] It's being charged as
[1:58:22] COUNCILMAN LaCava said to
[1:58:23] everybody but the benefit is
[1:58:28] going to be selective really
[1:58:28] distributed.
[1:58:32] COUNCILMAN Shani Le Rivera is
[1:58:33] going to put the benefit as a
[1:58:38] priority in the richest
[1:58:42] neighborhood in his district.
[1:58:43] Now a poor neighborhood in City
[1:58:43] Heights.
[1:58:47] My neighborhood isn't included
[1:58:48] or prioritized.
[1:58:52] I guess you know, when you
[1:58:57] become a elected official and
[1:58:58] no longer are campaigning for
[1:59:02] the people, you start to give
[1:59:09] the rich the greatest benefit.
[1:59:13] Please stop trying to solve
[1:59:14] your budget problems by putting
[1:59:19] more taxes, more fees onto
[1:59:19] the population.
[1:59:24] Start eliminating taxes and
[1:59:24] fees.
[1:59:25] Make That's how you make it
[1:59:25] affordable.
[1:59:28] Thank you very much.
[1:59:29] >> Thank you.
[1:59:30] Next is Devin If you can please
[1:59:33] unmute.
[1:59:33] Hi.
[1:59:34] Thank you for allowing me
[1:59:38] the opportunity to speak today
[1:59:39] I come before you with concerns
[1:59:39] about the rapidly growing
[1:59:40] cannabis market and
[1:59:43] the increasing normalization of
[1:59:44] vaping products both of which
[1:59:45] are having harmful effects on
[1:59:48] our community particularly our
[1:59:48] youth.
[1:59:49] Recent data shows that more
[1:59:53] than half of cannabis sales
[1:59:54] come from just 20% of
[1:59:54] customers.
[1:59:58] We're also seeing an alarming
[1:59:59] rise in the use of vapes and
[1:59:59] concentrates.
[2:00:02] In fact vapes now account for
[2:00:03] 25% of cannabis sales
[2:00:07] nationwide and last year for
[2:00:07] the first time vape sales
[2:00:08] surpassed flower sales among
[2:00:12] Gen-z.
[2:00:13] This is deeply concerning
[2:00:16] vaping especially among young
[2:00:17] people poses significant health
[2:00:17] risks.
[2:00:18] The long term effects of
[2:00:21] inhaling concentrated cannabis
[2:00:22] oils and other chemicals are
[2:00:26] still largely unknown but early
[2:00:27] research shows they could
[2:00:27] include lung damage, mental
[2:00:30] health issues and a higher
[2:00:31] likelihood of addiction.
[2:00:32] These products are not only
[2:00:36] more potent but also more
[2:00:36] discreet making it easier for
[2:00:37] minors to access and use them
[2:00:40] without detection.
[2:00:41] We know that the developing
[2:00:42] brains of teenagers are
[2:00:46] particularly vulnerable to
[2:00:46] the addictive properties of
[2:00:47] cannabis and nicotine And these
[2:00:50] products especially in high
[2:00:51] concentrations pose serious
[2:00:52] risks to their future health
[2:00:55] and well-being.
[2:00:56] I urge this Council to consider
[2:00:59] the long term implications of
[2:01:00] this growing industry.
[2:01:00] We must prioritize public
[2:01:04] health and protect our youth by
[2:01:05] enacting stricter regulations
[2:01:06] on cannabis products and vaping
[2:01:10] including limitations on high
[2:01:10] potency offerings and better
[2:01:15] enforcement of age restrictions
[2:01:16] Thank you for your time and
[2:01:16] consideration.
[2:01:17] Thank you.
[2:01:17] Next suspect Peggy Walker.
[2:01:22] If you can please unmute.
[2:01:22] >> Good morning.
[2:01:27] That's a youth health advocate
[2:01:28] I came today to draw attention
[2:01:31] to statements meant to diminish
[2:01:32] the known harms of marijuana.
[2:01:34] Comments to this Council
[2:01:35] regarding the 2024 monitoring
[2:01:36] The Futures survey suggest
[2:01:41] marijuana use by high schoolers
[2:01:41] has not increased.
[2:01:45] The real story, however, is
[2:01:46] that the surveys show that
[2:01:46] youth rates are substantial
[2:01:49] like nearly 30% of 12th graders
[2:01:50] reporting past year use.
[2:01:54] The survey also showed 43% of
[2:01:55] those age 19 to 30 reporting
[2:01:59] cannabis use a 40 year record
[2:02:00] high for young adults.
[2:02:04] Speaking to this, DR. Jesse
[2:02:05] Brinkley, professor of
[2:02:05] psychiatry and addiction
[2:02:09] specialist at University of
[2:02:10] Colorado stated in the journal
[2:02:14] Psychiatry News that this is a
[2:02:15] population at risk.
[2:02:18] At age 18 our brains do not
[2:02:19] magically flip a switch and
[2:02:23] finish developing the extent of
[2:02:24] expanded legalization cannabis
[2:02:29] product offering and increased
[2:02:29] potency.
[2:02:29] Hinckley warned those
[2:02:33] unprecedented exposure to young
[2:02:34] people during a critical period
[2:02:38] of brain development.
[2:02:39] Studies by Hinckley found
[2:02:43] mounting evidence marijuana is
[2:02:44] fueling depression and suicide
[2:02:44] among youth.
[2:02:48] He found out lessened marijuana
[2:02:49] users nearly two and a half
[2:02:49] times more likely to be
[2:02:52] addicted to it And a half times
[2:02:53] more likely to have a major
[2:02:56] depressive episode and four
[2:02:57] times more likely to attempt
[2:02:57] suicide.
[2:03:01] And so I suggest data showing
[2:03:02] 30% of high school seniors
[2:03:06] using cannabis is very serious
[2:03:07] feeling substantial health
[2:03:08] problems and mental health
[2:03:08] risks.
[2:03:12] Thank you for your time.
[2:03:13] Thank you.
[2:03:16] Megan if you can please unmute
[2:03:17] >> Thank you.
[2:03:18] Good morning Council members.
[2:03:18] Thank you for the opportunity
[2:03:21] to speak today.
[2:03:21] My name is Megan Stewart and
[2:03:22] I'm here to address a critical
[2:03:26] issue regarding public health
[2:03:26] and the opportunity we have to
[2:03:27] make proactive decisions.
[2:03:31] A recent article drafted by a
[2:03:32] physician and a public health
[2:03:32] professional highlighted
[2:03:36] the well documented link
[2:03:36] between alcohol and cancer.
[2:03:37] Identifying it as a leading
[2:03:41] preventable cause of seven
[2:03:41] types of cancer including,
[2:03:45] colon and liver cancers.
[2:03:45] Yet public awareness of this
[2:03:46] fact is alarmingly low.
[2:03:50] Only 45% of Americans know
[2:03:51] the simple fact that alcohol
[2:03:55] increases cancer risk.
[2:03:55] The alcohol industry has long
[2:03:58] normalized its presence in our
[2:03:59] culture from professional
[2:04:00] events to fundraisers.
[2:04:04] Even those focused on health.
[2:04:04] It's been so effective that we
[2:04:05] rarely question
[2:04:06] the consequences of promoting
[2:04:09] and consuming this toxin.
[2:04:09] And now we are paying
[2:04:10] the consequence as it causes
[2:04:13] nearly 100,000 cancer cases and
[2:04:14] 20,000 deaths annually in
[2:04:19] the U.S..
[2:04:20] We are at the early stages of
[2:04:20] the marijuana industry's growth
[2:04:23] and it is a sure to follow
[2:04:24] the same path as alcohol if we
[2:04:24] do not act now.
[2:04:28] The marijuana industry like big
[2:04:29] alcohol has immense lobbying
[2:04:29] power and the ability to shape
[2:04:33] public perception often
[2:04:34] downplaying risks to health and
[2:04:37] safety for the sake of profit.
[2:04:38] We can already see the signs as
[2:04:38] marijuana is being marketed as
[2:04:42] harmless or even health
[2:04:42] positive product.
[2:04:43] Just as alcohol once was.
[2:04:47] It's important to recognize
[2:04:48] that we don't have to wait
[2:04:48] decades to acknowledge
[2:04:49] the consequences.
[2:04:49] This Council has
[2:04:52] the opportunity to enact
[2:04:53] policies that prioritize public
[2:04:54] health by limiting advertising,
[2:04:57] regulating access and promoting
[2:04:58] public education about
[2:04:58] the risks of marijuana use.
[2:05:03] Thanks so much.
[2:05:03] >> Thank you.
[2:05:04] Blair Beckman If you can please
[2:05:08] unmute then I'll be Lori
[2:05:08] Saldana and Judy Strang and
[2:05:11] they'll be up.
[2:05:12] >> All right.
[2:05:12] Thank you.
[2:05:13] We're big fans.
[2:05:17] Thank Philharmonie Many thanks
[2:05:18] to the words of MR. Stump
[2:05:18] again.
[2:05:22] Yeah, I spoke yesterday on I
[2:05:25] think property owners they have
[2:05:26] kind of a certain
[2:05:27] responsibility to help and
[2:05:27] the picture of you know, our
[2:05:31] revenue issues in San Diego.
[2:05:35] I think they if you live in a
[2:05:36] house you have a lot of money
[2:05:37] basically.
[2:05:41] But it is with that that you
[2:05:41] know continual tax burdens on
[2:05:44] them is difficult because look
[2:05:45] how to address that I think
[2:05:46] there can be small increases in
[2:05:50] property tax to be of help.
[2:05:55] But these things that up and
[2:05:56] the underground wiring add to
[2:05:56] that thank you MR. Stamps work
[2:05:59] to really work on equitable
[2:06:00] distribution That's a really
[2:06:05] important concept and what to
[2:06:06] do with tax money on projects
[2:06:06] there's lots and working on San
[2:06:11] Diego and possibly working on
[2:06:11] sidewalk at the stay the same
[2:06:14] way sidewalk you work at
[2:06:14] the same I don't know
[2:06:19] forgiveness pattern that we
[2:06:20] built just an expectation that
[2:06:20] they pay for the majority of
[2:06:26] sidewalk they have working
[2:06:27] those efforts But that said I'm
[2:06:28] still working on my tech issues
[2:06:33] the lot you know the future of
[2:06:33] a called a quick check basement
[2:06:38] and removal of tech There's a
[2:06:39] district going on with
[2:06:43] the Hillcrest lgbt q Festival
[2:06:43] of JULY 2024.
[2:06:48] It's gone to court over
[2:06:48] the future of tech placement
[2:06:49] issues and exigent
[2:06:52] circumstances Quick tech
[2:06:53] placement and removal program
[2:06:54] can really help address
[2:06:57] the issue If you're not already
[2:06:57] addressing them It can be a
[2:07:02] really good guy that they're
[2:07:02] learning themselves.
[2:07:03] The name comes down in better
[2:07:04] practices and better exigent
[2:07:07] circumstance.
[2:07:08] The process could work to how
[2:07:09] This can be an open
[2:07:13] conversation coming up in in so
[2:07:13] if you're not already doing it
[2:07:15] thank you thank you Laurie
[2:07:16] Saldana if you can please
[2:07:20] unmute.
[2:07:21] Yes Can you hear me?
[2:07:21] Yes.
[2:07:21] Please proceed.
[2:07:25] Thank you so a reminder that
[2:07:25] the statement made by
[2:07:26] the council PRESIDENT At
[2:07:27] the start of every public
[2:07:30] comment session is the result
[2:07:31] of lawsuits filed on behalf of
[2:07:34] San Diegans who have their
[2:07:35] right to speak and address this
[2:07:39] Council violated on multiple
[2:07:39] occasions over the last several
[2:07:40] years both a Bill of Rights and
[2:07:41] the state's Brown Act
[2:07:44] guarantees that the public has
[2:07:45] a right to address elected
[2:07:46] officials both for a redress of
[2:07:49] grievances and also to voice
[2:07:50] agreement.
[2:07:50] And the council and Mayor have
[2:07:54] done a great job of recruiting
[2:07:55] people who agree with them to
[2:07:55] attend council meetings, wave
[2:07:59] signs and speak in support of
[2:08:00] things like mega shelters and
[2:08:04] raising regressive fees that
[2:08:05] disproportionately harm low
[2:08:05] income families.
[2:08:08] So that is their right, that is
[2:08:09] their strategy.
[2:08:09] We understand that.
[2:08:10] But what's disappointing is
[2:08:14] that after some of us do voice
[2:08:14] our disagreements whether it's
[2:08:18] development projects or poor or
[2:08:19] other issues that the council
[2:08:22] members then show a level of
[2:08:23] contempt and disrespect that
[2:08:24] has been showing up in recent
[2:08:27] weeks.
[2:08:28] There is a culture of contempt
[2:08:29] that is emerging in this
[2:08:33] country And I want to say that
[2:08:36] as one person who has served in
[2:08:37] elected office who has been
[2:08:37] threatened and had to have
[2:08:41] armed escort support time
[2:08:42] because of people who disagreed
[2:08:42] with legislation that I
[2:08:46] introduced, I understand
[2:08:47] the tendency to be protective
[2:08:48] But what I don't understand is
[2:08:52] why people would resort to name
[2:08:52] calling and insults against
[2:08:57] people who are doing their best
[2:08:57] to participate as volunteers,
[2:09:02] as people who are not paid as
[2:09:03] generously as you all are to
[2:09:07] attend these council meetings.
[2:09:07] So please keep that in mind as
[2:09:11] we go through this year and do
[2:09:11] your best to avoid descending
[2:09:12] into this culture of contempt
[2:09:16] and disrespect that we see
[2:09:16] emerging in too many other
[2:09:21] places around the country.
[2:09:21] Thank you, Judy Strain your
[2:09:22] final speaker.
[2:09:24] Please unmute.
[2:09:25] >> Good afternoon San Diego
[2:09:30] City Council Judy Strang here I
[2:09:31] came to report on the Board of
[2:09:35] Supervisors meeting this
[2:09:35] morning particularly consent
[2:09:39] item number one the added
[2:09:44] funding for the age group 18 to
[2:09:45] 25 that are in foster care to
[2:09:49] assist them for at least three
[2:09:50] more years with transitional
[2:09:50] housing.
[2:09:51] This is an age group that means
[2:09:54] a great deal to me as the bulk
[2:09:55] of my grandchildren are in that
[2:09:58] age range and I have watched
[2:09:59] that transition.
[2:10:03] I think it's out of childhood
[2:10:03] if you would And I think it's
[2:10:07] important to remember that
[2:10:08] depending on the year 50% of
[2:10:08] our eight year olds are still
[2:10:09] in high school.
[2:10:12] So it is an age group about
[2:10:13] which we have grave concern.
[2:10:17] So I much appreciate the news
[2:10:18] that the city of San Diego is
[2:10:18] launching their new initiative
[2:10:22] a Child and teen friendly city
[2:10:23] not a moment too soon And I
[2:10:27] hope that as you think about
[2:10:28] teens that she'll extend that
[2:10:32] teen boundary because that 18
[2:10:33] to 25 year old age range needs
[2:10:36] you They are the age group that
[2:10:37] the industries of addiction
[2:10:41] target be they tobacco stores,
[2:10:46] alcohol outlets or marijuana
[2:10:47] store fronts And we need to
[2:10:48] look carefully at the role they
[2:10:51] play and diverting our young
[2:10:52] people in a pathway that would
[2:10:55] make them more successful and
[2:10:56] not encourage that
[2:10:56] proliferation or more
[2:11:00] particularly normalize it by
[2:11:01] what we see in our billboards
[2:11:02] on our roadways.
[2:11:06] So thank you City going forward
[2:11:06] let's take a new look at those
[2:11:07] billboards.
[2:11:11] It's not what I would call a
[2:11:11] child and teen friendly city to
[2:11:15] have them looming over our
[2:11:16] Highway five and 15.
[2:11:21] Thank you.
[2:11:21] >> Thank you.
[2:11:22] That concludes on general
[2:11:23] public comment for today.
[2:11:23] All right.
[2:11:24] Thank you everybody that called
[2:11:25] in.
[2:11:25] We will now adjourn for
[2:11:26] the noon recess and reconvene
[2:11:29] open session at 2 P.M. Or
[2:12:24] shortly thereafter and not
[2:12:24] the.
[2:12:24] All right.
[2:12:31] We're going to get started.
[2:12:32] >> Good afternoon.
[2:12:32] I will now reconvene the city
[2:12:33] council meeting of Tuesday,
[2:12:36] JANUARY 28th, 2025.
[2:12:37] >> clerk please call the roll.
[2:12:37] Thank you.
[2:12:42] Council PRESIDENT Council
[2:12:42] Member Campbell Dear Council
[2:12:43] Member Whitburn here Council
[2:12:46] Member Foster Council Member
[2:12:46] Ron Wilber Council PRESIDENT
[2:12:51] Pro Tem Lee Council Member
[2:12:52] Campo here Council Member
[2:12:56] Moreno Council member Ella
[2:12:56] Rivera and Council PRESIDENT
[2:13:00] LaCava also attending
[2:13:00] the meeting.
[2:13:05] >> The other thing in
[2:13:06] the meeting our Sin City
[2:13:06] Attorney Leslie Fitzgerald,
[2:13:07] independent Budget analyst
[2:13:08] Charles Mollica Council Affairs
[2:13:11] Advisor in the Mayor's office,
[2:13:11] Code advisor and myself your
[2:13:12] city clerk Diana Fuentes All
[2:13:15] right, Clark, will you read
[2:13:16] the agenda item for this
[2:13:16] afternoon so we know the order
[2:13:17] this afternoon the agenda items
[2:13:19] will be taken on the following
[2:13:22] order item 330 followed by item
[2:13:23] 331.
[2:13:23] All right.
[2:13:23] Thank you.
[2:13:27] Clerk a quorum is now present
[2:13:27] since we have could expect a
[2:13:28] lively meeting Before we start
[2:13:29] today's meeting I want to
[2:13:32] remind everyone about
[2:13:32] the city's practices and
[2:13:33] procedures for public comment
[2:13:37] at city council meetings
[2:13:37] the city welcomes public party
[2:13:38] participation at city council
[2:13:42] meetings.
[2:13:42] Speakers MAY address
[2:13:43] the Council during public
[2:13:44] comment and also in connection
[2:13:47] with a specific item of
[2:13:47] business on the agenda.
[2:13:48] However, the city must make
[2:13:51] sure that no person or group of
[2:13:52] people disrupt the meeting in a
[2:13:52] way that prohibits other
[2:13:53] speakers from expressing their
[2:13:56] ideas and opinions such as
[2:13:57] excessive yelling, screaming or
[2:13:58] speaking beyond once a lot of
[2:14:01] times or examples of disruption
[2:14:02] So to make sure that everyone
[2:14:02] here has an opportunity to
[2:14:06] address the Council, I will
[2:14:07] alert an individual or
[2:14:07] individuals if I think their
[2:14:08] conduct becomes disruptive.
[2:14:11] If the disruption continues I
[2:14:12] will rule the individual out of
[2:14:13] order If the disruption
[2:14:15] continues further I will
[2:14:16] declare a recess so we can
[2:14:16] restore order.
[2:14:17] At that point I will direct
[2:14:20] the individual or individuals
[2:14:21] to leave the room And if
[2:14:25] the individual refuses to leave
[2:14:25] a police will escort
[2:14:26] the individual out of
[2:14:26] the building.
[2:14:27] And if we have to repeat this
[2:14:30] process of warning and
[2:14:31] recessing the meeting, all
[2:14:31] members of the public will be
[2:14:32] excused from the Council
[2:14:35] chamber credential media will
[2:14:36] be allowed to remain.
[2:14:36] Again, we have these practices
[2:14:40] and procedures to protect
[2:14:40] the rights of other speakers
[2:14:41] who wish to address the Council
[2:14:42] and to allow the Council to
[2:14:45] conduct conduct public business
[2:14:46] And as a little guideline for
[2:14:49] those of you maybe here for
[2:14:50] the first time if you have a
[2:14:51] sign it's fine.
[2:14:51] Make sure you're not blocking
[2:14:54] the view of anybody behind you
[2:14:55] and in lieu of clapping so that
[2:14:56] we can get all the public
[2:14:59] comment in.
[2:15:00] Some people like to shake hands
[2:15:01] might be away and the council
[2:15:04] will very much understand what
[2:15:05] you're what you're doing.
[2:15:06] So with that clerk please
[2:15:09] introduce item 330.
[2:15:10] Thank you.
[2:15:10] Item 330 is 690 Rosecrans
[2:15:13] Street project number rj
[2:15:14] 1065372.
[2:15:19] This item is not subject to
[2:15:20] the mayor's veto.
[2:15:21] If you'd like to speak on this
[2:15:21] item please submit a speaker
[2:15:23] said press star nine or
[2:15:24] the raise your hand icon if
[2:15:24] you're attending virtually.
[2:15:25] Thank you.
[2:15:25] All right staff please
[2:15:27] introduce yourselves for
[2:15:27] the record and let us know how
[2:15:28] much time you need for
[2:15:29] the presentation.
[2:15:32] >> Good afternoon, counsel.
[2:15:33] My name is Robin McCarty and I
[2:15:33] will need less than five
[2:15:34] minutes.
[2:15:35] Okay.
[2:15:36] Thank you.
[2:15:36] Proceed when you're ready.
[2:15:40] Thank you.
[2:15:41] >> Good morning.
[2:15:42] Council members and those in
[2:15:42] attendance from the public.
[2:15:43] My name is Robin McCarty and I
[2:15:46] will be presenting item number
[2:15:50] 330 on today's agenda.
[2:15:51] >> The project being presented
[2:15:53] today is located at 690
[2:15:54] Rosecrans Street and
[2:15:57] the residential single unit 1-7
[2:15:58] zone of the Peninsula Community
[2:16:01] Plan area.
[2:16:02] The 0.1 acre site is situated
[2:16:03] between Talbot Street and Owen
[2:16:07] Street approximately three
[2:16:09] miles south of the Interstate
[2:16:10] eight Freeway.
[2:16:10] >> The project proposes to
[2:16:11] vacate an unformed legal
[2:16:15] portion of Rogers Street.
[2:16:15] In addition, the project will
[2:16:16] demolish an existing single
[2:16:20] dwelling unit and construct a
[2:16:21] new two story single dwelling
[2:16:24] unit a new garage and a new
[2:16:24] accessory dwelling unit over
[2:16:25] the garage.
[2:16:28] The environmental evaluation
[2:16:29] determined the project to be
[2:16:30] exempt from the California
[2:16:33] Environmental Quality Act
[2:16:34] pursuant to Section 15332 for
[2:16:38] infill development project
[2:16:43] details include the demolition
[2:16:44] of the existing 1450 square
[2:16:48] foot single dwelling unit
[2:16:52] including a 442 443 square foot
[2:16:53] portion of the existing lower
[2:16:55] level and a 406 square foot
[2:16:56] portion of the existing garage.
[2:16:56] The new construction will
[2:17:00] include the addition of a 3160
[2:17:01] square foot two story single
[2:17:05] dwelling unit and 1811 square
[2:17:09] foot garage and a new 978
[2:17:10] square foot accessory dwelling
[2:17:10] unit above the garage.
[2:17:14] A section of the south
[2:17:15] elevation demonstrates the site
[2:17:16] conditions with manufactured
[2:17:18] slopes running from east to
[2:17:19] west.
[2:17:19] The east elevation illustrates
[2:17:23] the tiered layout of
[2:17:24] the structures designed to
[2:17:24] correspond with the grade of
[2:17:28] the and complement the natural
[2:17:29] landform as recommended in
[2:17:29] the community plan.
[2:17:30] In addition, the project
[2:17:34] proposes a variation in roof
[2:17:34] styles from the flat roof of
[2:17:38] the single Dwelling unit to
[2:17:39] the steep truth of the Adu
[2:17:40] intended to break up the visual
[2:17:43] prominence of the development
[2:17:44] site which is a hillside
[2:17:44] development recommendation of
[2:17:47] the community plan.
[2:17:48] >> The project proposes a
[2:17:49] public right of way vacation of
[2:17:53] an informal legal portion of
[2:17:53] Rogers Street to the west of
[2:17:54] Rosecrans Street.
[2:17:57] The portion to the west of
[2:17:58] the proposed vacation was
[2:17:59] previously vacated leaving
[2:18:02] the prop the proposed vacation
[2:18:03] area isolated from the original
[2:18:04] intent of connecting Rogers
[2:18:07] Street to Rosecrans Street.
[2:18:08] The project is also proposing a
[2:18:11] sewer easement as shown in
[2:18:12] the right of way drawing to
[2:18:13] the right of the aerial
[2:18:16] photograph.
[2:18:20] >> On JULY 13th, 2023
[2:18:21] the Peninsula Community Group
[2:18:22] voted 11 to 0 with no
[2:18:24] conditions to recommend
[2:18:25] approval of the project as
[2:18:30] presented.
[2:18:30] >> Staff determined that
[2:18:31] the project meets
[2:18:31] the regulatory guidelines of
[2:18:35] the San Diego Municipal Code
[2:18:35] Peninsula Community Plan and
[2:18:36] the local Coastal Program staff
[2:18:40] recommends approval of
[2:18:40] the public right of way
[2:18:44] vacation number pmt 317 3078
[2:18:45] and Coastal development permit
[2:18:49] number pmt 317 3079 Along with
[2:18:52] the adoption of a resolution
[2:18:53] determining that the project is
[2:18:54] categorically exempt from
[2:18:58] the California Environmental
[2:18:58] Quality Act.
[2:19:01] Pursuant to secret guidelines
[2:19:02] Section 15332 This concludes
[2:19:03] staff's presentation Subject
[2:19:07] matter Experts and
[2:19:07] the applicant team are
[2:19:08] available.
[2:19:08] Should you have any questions?
[2:19:09] Thank you.
[2:19:09] All right.
[2:19:12] Thank you for your
[2:19:12] presentation.
[2:19:13] I understand the applicant on
[2:19:14] this project is here but does
[2:19:17] not wish to make a
[2:19:18] presentation.
[2:19:18] Is that correct?
[2:19:19] That is correct.
[2:19:19] Correct.
[2:19:19] All right.
[2:19:22] Thank you for confirming that
[2:19:22] plaque.
[2:19:23] >> Please proceed with public
[2:19:23] comment.
[2:19:24] Thank you.
[2:19:26] We have one person here in
[2:19:27] council chambers.
[2:19:27] >> Cesar happier if you can
[2:19:38] please come forward.
[2:19:43] >> Sorry, I missed your class
[2:19:44] from yesterday and this morning
[2:19:48] we are sick but we are trying
[2:19:52] to be a student and learner.
[2:19:53] I oppose the construction of
[2:19:57] this kind of shelter.
[2:20:02] First recent Why accomplish
[2:20:05] from ceqa Is this
[2:20:06] the implementing guideline of
[2:20:10] the state environmental Quality
[2:20:15] Act of 1970?
[2:20:15] Answer me.
[2:20:16] You need to answer.
[2:20:21] I might be committing crime
[2:20:21] from MR. Lacob.
[2:20:25] I don't want to commit any
[2:20:26] felony here.
[2:20:26] I must be respectful.
[2:20:31] You stop the construction.
[2:20:31] You study the implementing
[2:20:32] guidelines of ceqa.
[2:20:35] Please.
[2:20:36] And you will know the reason
[2:20:36] why.
[2:20:42] Another thing is we have
[2:20:43] lessons in the past Like
[2:20:45] the lesson in the Montezuma
[2:20:50] Fire.
[2:20:51] They do not have the authority
[2:20:55] to interpret that property
[2:20:59] because that's the law.
[2:21:04] When I raise my hand in
[2:21:05] the meeting to say I know
[2:21:09] the answer nobody allowed me to
[2:21:10] speak up.
[2:21:10] We need more adequate water.
[2:21:14] Do you have adequate supply of
[2:21:15] water in that structure?
[2:21:15] Yes or no?
[2:21:18] You need not to answer.
[2:21:19] Is there a provision to catch
[2:21:24] this precious gift from nature?
[2:21:24] Rainwater.
[2:21:24] Nada.
[2:21:28] I saw your plan.
[2:21:28] Nada.
[2:21:29] It does not reflect the lessons
[2:21:33] in the past Four shelters
[2:21:34] decent home suitable
[2:21:34] surrounding.
[2:21:38] We have a nice ocean.
[2:21:38] Now.
[2:21:43] We will have to raise that that
[2:21:43] height.
[2:21:43] >> Time has come.
[2:21:44] Many more but only one for.
[2:21:45] 1 minute or 2 minutes.
[2:21:47] Thank you.
[2:21:48] >> Five minute timer has
[2:21:48] started here in council
[2:21:52] chambers Going to John Stump.
[2:21:53] John Stump If you can please
[2:21:58] unmute.
[2:22:01] I want that someone out here.
[2:22:01] Look at the question I have
[2:22:06] about this item is are all of
[2:22:11] the costs being absorbed and
[2:22:16] paid for by the applicant?
[2:22:17] Now I view is that's what's
[2:22:20] reflected in the staff report
[2:22:21] or is it one of these typical
[2:22:25] No financial employment
[2:22:30] implications for the city of
[2:22:35] San Diego gives free or
[2:22:35] subsidizes with taxpayer money
[2:22:40] Some projects and charges
[2:22:41] disproportionally others.
[2:22:45] Let's look at the item.
[2:22:54] Does it say any or not?
[2:22:55] >> Thank you very much.
[2:22:56] Blair Beekman If you can please
[2:23:04] unmute.
[2:23:05] >> Hi.
[2:23:05] Thank you.
[2:23:10] Blair Beekman Thank you for
[2:23:10] this item.
[2:23:11] Thank you for the words of MR.
[2:23:15] Harvey for Harvey are here.
[2:23:16] I'm pronouncing that correctly.
[2:23:18] MR. Harvey Here who he has
[2:23:19] inspired me to want to speak on
[2:23:21] this item So thank you for his
[2:23:27] words and a few words.
[2:23:31] Again to MR. Stump and how I'm
[2:23:32] addressing and thinking of
[2:23:32] issues.
[2:23:33] MR. Harvey ever brought up
[2:23:36] the idea of a textbook?
[2:23:37] There is not a use of secure in
[2:23:40] this item.
[2:23:41] I'm very worried that we really
[2:23:45] are like kind of trying to
[2:23:49] shortchange secure as much as
[2:23:50] we can to say that we're like
[2:23:51] innovative in being more
[2:23:54] streamlined and when secret
[2:23:54] does some really good thing.
[2:23:59] And we need to acknowledge that
[2:24:00] With the recent wildfires in
[2:24:01] L.A..
[2:24:04] Gavin Newsom Governor Newsom
[2:24:04] has completely ended ceqa
[2:24:05] processes for the upcoming
[2:24:09] rebuilding process.
[2:24:10] We just had, you know, rains
[2:24:14] and some, you know, small
[2:24:15] mudslides in L.A. The past few
[2:24:19] days.
[2:24:19] What's the environmental impact
[2:24:20] going to be without any sort of
[2:24:24] sequel on the future
[2:24:24] rebuilding?
[2:24:25] I think there's going to be
[2:24:25] madness.
[2:24:28] I think we're in serious
[2:24:28] trouble and those are the kind
[2:24:29] of practices I don't want San
[2:24:33] Diego going to be following.
[2:24:33] I don't want wildfires to be
[2:24:38] creating this free for all for
[2:24:38] ourselves.
[2:24:39] You're basically inviting forms
[2:24:43] of disaster capitalism and I'm
[2:24:43] very worried.
[2:24:44] We have to really hold the line
[2:24:48] and and continue our best
[2:24:49] practices in light of really
[2:24:52] horrific events.
[2:24:53] Good luck how we can do that
[2:24:54] and I hope we can address this
[2:24:57] current issue if there can be
[2:24:58] good secret practices to
[2:24:58] involved with it that we don't
[2:25:02] have to be afraid to involve
[2:25:02] them.
[2:25:03] I'm sorry to say that I don't
[2:25:07] want to hurt the people who are
[2:25:08] wanting to build a home here
[2:25:08] but I'm sorry your time has
[2:25:09] concluded.
[2:25:12] >> Any additional comments Can
[2:25:12] be emailed in.
[2:25:13] Also there was for the record
[2:25:14] no public comment submitted via
[2:25:17] e comment for this item.
[2:25:18] Thank you.
[2:25:18] All right.
[2:25:19] Thank you, Clark.
[2:25:19] Well now I'll take
[2:25:21] Councilmember questions and
[2:25:22] comments, entertain a motion
[2:25:22] and we'll start with
[2:25:23] Councilmember Campbell.
[2:25:26] Thank you.
[2:25:27] >> Council PRESIDENT.
[2:25:30] This is in my district District
[2:25:30] two and this is further
[2:25:34] vacation of an area that was
[2:25:35] previously vacated where
[2:25:39] the city had wanted to have a
[2:25:40] street go through to Rosecrans.
[2:25:44] I think it's an excellent idea
[2:25:45] i think the plan to build a
[2:25:46] structure there in such a way
[2:25:50] so that that is possible is a
[2:25:54] is a good idea and so I would
[2:25:55] like to make a motion to
[2:25:56] approve staff's recommendation.
[2:25:56] Thank you.
[2:25:59] All right.
[2:26:00] Thank you.
[2:26:00] We have a motion by
[2:26:01] Councilmember Campbell.
[2:26:02] We'll go next to Councilmember
[2:26:02] Whitburn.
[2:26:04] Happy to Second Councilmember
[2:26:04] Campbell's motion.
[2:26:05] All right.
[2:26:08] You know, seeing nobody else on
[2:26:09] the lights, we have a motion by
[2:26:10] Councilmember Campbell to move
[2:26:12] the staff recommendation a
[2:26:13] second by council member
[2:26:13] Whitburn.
[2:26:15] >> Clerk please call the roll I
[2:26:16] sorry the voting system.
[2:26:25] Please cast your vote.
[2:26:30] >> That motion passes
[2:26:31] unanimously 8 to 0 with Council
[2:26:32] member Isla Rivera absent.
[2:26:35] Thank you.
[2:26:36] All right.
[2:26:36] Thank you staff.
[2:26:39] So with that clerk please
[2:26:40] introduce item 331.
[2:26:40] >> Item 331 is the San Diego
[2:26:44] Municipal Code amendment to
[2:26:45] section 131.0431.
[2:26:49] Development Regulations Table
[2:26:52] 130 1-04d Related to rs-1-2
[2:26:52] zones in the Encanto
[2:26:56] neighborhood and southeastern
[2:26:57] San Diego Community Planning
[2:26:57] Areas Process five.
[2:27:02] If you'd like to speak to this
[2:27:02] item please be sure to submit
[2:27:03] your speaker slip to the high
[2:27:06] lectern If you are participate
[2:27:07] remotely press star nine or
[2:27:08] the raise your hand icon.
[2:27:08] Thank you.
[2:27:08] All right.
[2:27:11] Clerk Staff please introduce
[2:27:12] yourself the records and tell
[2:27:16] us how much time you need.
[2:27:16] Thank you.
[2:27:17] Council PRESIDENT Staff which
[2:27:17] need program manager with
[2:27:19] the City Planning department
[2:27:20] will need approximately ten
[2:27:20] minutes.
[2:27:21] All right.
[2:27:21] Please proceed when you're
[2:27:21] ready.
[2:27:22] Good morning.
[2:27:25] My name is Jeff Whitney.
[2:27:26] I'm a program manager with
[2:27:26] the city Planning Department.
[2:27:28] Joining me are planning
[2:27:29] director Heidi Von Blum, deputy
[2:27:30] Director Tate Galloway,
[2:27:34] principal planner Liz Side
[2:27:34] Canyon and senior planner Sam
[2:27:35] Solis.
[2:27:38] The item today is an amendment
[2:27:42] to the San Diego Municipal Code
[2:27:43] Section 13104312
[2:27:44] The Development Regulations for
[2:27:44] Residential Zones.
[2:27:50] Table 131-04d2 Repeal Footnote
[2:27:51] seven which reduces the minimum
[2:27:55] lot size for the rs one to
[2:27:59] zones from 20,000ft to 5000ft
[2:28:00] and applies the development
[2:28:00] regulations of the r.
[2:28:04] S17 zone to subdivisions in
[2:28:04] the Encanto neighborhoods and
[2:28:05] southeastern San Diego
[2:28:09] community planning areas.
[2:28:09] I would like to note that a
[2:28:10] revised California
[2:28:13] Environmental Quality Act
[2:28:14] Section 15162 memorandum was
[2:28:18] added to the docket today.
[2:28:18] This memorandum memorandum
[2:28:19] clarifies that with or without
[2:28:22] footnote seven any subdivision
[2:28:23] exceeding four dwelling units
[2:28:27] per acre would not be permitted
[2:28:27] as it would be inconsistent
[2:28:28] with the land use designation
[2:28:29] in the Encanto neighborhoods
[2:28:34] Community Plan City Planning
[2:28:39] Department staff is proposing
[2:28:40] the removal of Footnote seven
[2:28:40] from the San Diego Municipal
[2:28:44] Code Footnote seven
[2:28:44] specifically applies
[2:28:48] the development regulations of
[2:28:49] the year one seven zone for
[2:28:49] subdivisions in the rc one to
[2:28:52] zone within the Encanto
[2:28:53] neighborhoods in southeastern
[2:28:54] San Diego Community planning
[2:28:57] areas There are several
[2:28:58] legislative actions associated
[2:29:02] with Footnote seven that
[2:29:03] provide the background for
[2:29:04] the adoption of the footnote
[2:29:07] and the need for its removal.
[2:29:08] The Encanto Neighborhoods
[2:29:08] Community Plan was adopted by
[2:29:12] the City Council on NOVEMBER
[2:29:12] 16th, 2015.
[2:29:13] The Community Plan update
[2:29:17] designated The area outlined in
[2:29:18] red on the left side as
[2:29:22] residential very low allowing
[2:29:23] between 0 and 4 homes per acre
[2:29:27] Portions of the area designated
[2:29:28] for residential very low shown
[2:29:28] in the map on the right of
[2:29:29] the screen outlined with
[2:29:32] the red dashed line designated
[2:29:33] the community plan for
[2:29:34] residents for residential very
[2:29:37] low were zoned rs12 which
[2:29:38] limits lot sizes to 20,000ft
[2:29:40] allowing approximately two
[2:29:49] homes per acre.
[2:29:50] On DECEMBER 17th 2019 the City
[2:29:51] Council approved the 12th
[2:29:51] update Phase two to the Land
[2:29:54] development Code Introducing
[2:29:55] Footnote seven.
[2:29:55] This amendment reduced
[2:30:00] the requirement lot size in
[2:30:00] the r.
[2:30:01] S one to zone within
[2:30:01] the Encanto neighborhoods in
[2:30:04] southeastern San Diego
[2:30:04] Community planning areas from
[2:30:07] 20,000ft to 5000ft.
[2:30:08] This action did not modify
[2:30:09] the single family zoning for
[2:30:13] those lots or the requirement
[2:30:13] that the subdivision still be
[2:30:14] consistent with the community
[2:30:16] plan density of four units per
[2:30:24] acre.
[2:30:25] On DECEMBER 13th, 2021 the City
[2:30:26] Council approved the 2021 Land
[2:30:29] Development Code update which
[2:30:30] amended Footnote seven.
[2:30:31] This amendment applied
[2:30:35] the development regulations of
[2:30:35] the rs one seven base zone
[2:30:36] which includes reduced minimum
[2:30:39] lot dimensions and setback
[2:30:39] requirements consistent with a
[2:30:40] 5000 square foot minimum lot
[2:30:43] area.
[2:30:44] However to be consistent with
[2:30:45] the community plan proposed
[2:30:46] subdivisions cannot exceed
[2:30:48] the community plan's density of
[2:30:52] four units per acre.
[2:30:53] >> Footnote seven was presented
[2:30:58] at the Community Planners
[2:30:58] Committee and at public
[2:30:59] workshops for both citywide
[2:31:02] land development code updates
[2:31:03] as a land use decision that
[2:31:04] affected that only affected two
[2:31:07] communities The prior
[2:31:07] amendments should have been
[2:31:08] directly discussed with
[2:31:08] the affected communities and
[2:31:12] reviewed to determine if
[2:31:12] Footnote seven should apply
[2:31:13] citywide to ensure consistent
[2:31:17] application of development
[2:31:17] regulations.
[2:31:18] Today the City Planning
[2:31:18] Department is proposing to
[2:31:22] amend the municipal Code by
[2:31:25] removing Footnote seven from
[2:31:25] table 13104d.
[2:31:26] This will ensure the consistent
[2:31:30] application of development of
[2:31:35] the s12 zone citywide Repealing
[2:31:40] footnote seven would restore
[2:31:41] the 20,000 square foot lot
[2:31:44] minimum lot size in the r.
[2:31:44] S12 zone in the Encanto
[2:31:45] neighborhoods and southeastern
[2:31:48] San Diego community planning
[2:31:48] area.
[2:31:49] This change would apply
[2:31:49] consistent citywide regulations
[2:31:53] for the zone development
[2:31:53] project.
[2:31:54] Applicants could still request
[2:31:55] to rezone to achieve
[2:32:01] the community plan densities.
[2:32:01] >> The proposed amendment to
[2:32:06] remove footnote seven would
[2:32:07] decrease the allowed
[2:32:07] development potential in
[2:32:08] the affected communities but
[2:32:11] would result in the same
[2:32:12] development potential assumed
[2:32:12] in the community Plan Update
[2:32:14] adopted in 2015.
[2:32:15] The r.
[2:32:15] S12 zone density would be
[2:32:19] within the range of the land
[2:32:20] use designation in the adopted
[2:32:29] community plan as fair housing
[2:32:29] and redlining have been
[2:32:30] discussed at hearings related
[2:32:32] to Footnote seven the City
[2:32:33] Planning Department wanted to
[2:32:34] provide a clarification of
[2:32:37] the definition of fair housing
[2:32:38] and how it applies to Footnote
[2:32:39] seven California Government
[2:32:42] Code requires all public
[2:32:43] agencies in California to
[2:32:43] affirmatively further fair
[2:32:47] housing affirmatively
[2:32:48] furthering fair housing is
[2:32:48] defined as taking meaningful
[2:32:49] actions to address significant
[2:32:51] disparities in housing needs
[2:32:52] and access to opportunities.
[2:32:56] This includes replacing
[2:32:57] segregated living patterns with
[2:32:58] truly integrated balanced
[2:33:01] communities transforming
[2:33:02] racially and ethnically
[2:33:03] concentrated areas of poverty
[2:33:06] into areas of opportunity and
[2:33:07] fostering and maintaining
[2:33:08] compliance with civil rights
[2:33:11] and fair housing laws.
[2:33:12] Although the process by which
[2:33:13] Footnote seven was adopted did
[2:33:16] not represent planning
[2:33:17] practices procedurally it did
[2:33:18] not lead to outcomes that do
[2:33:21] not affirmatively further fair
[2:33:22] housing.
[2:33:22] Footnote seven allows
[2:33:25] additional market rate single
[2:33:26] family homes in low resource
[2:33:27] communities consistent with
[2:33:27] planning densities in
[2:33:31] the community plan and does not
[2:33:31] contradict fair housing
[2:33:32] principles.
[2:33:36] Fair housing includes expanding
[2:33:36] housing opportunities including
[2:33:37] more opportunities for
[2:33:40] homeownership and improving
[2:33:41] access to access to resources
[2:33:42] rather than restricting
[2:33:46] specific types of home
[2:33:46] development.
[2:33:47] Additionally, redlining was
[2:33:47] historically used to deny
[2:33:51] opportunity for homeownership.
[2:33:52] The adoption of the footnote
[2:33:52] allows for more homeownership
[2:33:55] opportunities and therefore is
[2:34:00] not a form of redlining.
[2:34:05] >> The proposed amendment to
[2:34:05] remove footnote seven would
[2:34:06] decrease the allowed
[2:34:06] development potential from
[2:34:09] approximately 642 single family
[2:34:13] homes to 177 homes which is a
[2:34:14] difference of 465 single family
[2:34:18] homes on lots zoned as one to
[2:34:18] within the Encanto
[2:34:19] neighborhoods.
[2:34:22] This change in development
[2:34:23] potential was calculated by
[2:34:23] applying the community plan
[2:34:27] land use density and minimum
[2:34:28] lot size required with or
[2:34:32] without the footnote using
[2:34:32] the existing community plan
[2:34:33] designation of four units per
[2:34:33] acre.
[2:34:36] The Southeastern San Diego
[2:34:37] Community Plan area does not
[2:34:37] have any change to
[2:34:38] the development potential since
[2:34:41] there are not any zone any lots
[2:34:42] zoned rs one two in
[2:34:46] the community.
[2:34:51] >> The state requires the city
[2:34:51] to identify if there are enough
[2:34:52] remaining sites in its housing
[2:34:55] element adequate sites
[2:34:56] inventory to meet the allocated
[2:34:56] housing goals.
[2:35:00] If a site identified in
[2:35:01] the inventory is rezone and
[2:35:01] that rezone would result in a
[2:35:05] reduction of housing capacity
[2:35:06] the general plan housing
[2:35:09] element 2021 through 2029
[2:35:10] Adequate sites inventory
[2:35:13] included sites zoned rs12 in
[2:35:14] the Encanto neighborhood's
[2:35:14] community planning area.
[2:35:18] These sites were addressed or
[2:35:19] assessed based on
[2:35:19] the development potential
[2:35:22] allowed under the rc one to
[2:35:23] base zone regulations.
[2:35:25] Without considering Footnote
[2:35:26] seven Therefore repealing
[2:35:26] footnote seven would not reduce
[2:35:30] the residential density of any
[2:35:31] lot identified in the adequate
[2:35:32] sites inventory below its
[2:35:34] current allocation toward
[2:35:35] meeting the regional housing
[2:35:39] need.
[2:35:44] The California Government Code
[2:35:45] does not allow a city to change
[2:35:46] the general plan or community
[2:35:49] plan land use designation and
[2:35:50] or zoning of a property to a
[2:35:53] less intensive use or reduce
[2:35:54] the intensity of land use
[2:35:55] within an existing land use
[2:35:55] designation or zoning below
[2:35:59] what was allowed under the land
[2:35:59] designation and zoning in
[2:36:03] effect on JANUARY 1st, 2018.
[2:36:04] The proposed repeal of
[2:36:08] the footnote would allow 465
[2:36:09] fewer single family homes on
[2:36:13] lots zoned rs1 to within
[2:36:14] the Encanto neighborhoods
[2:36:14] community plan area.
[2:36:18] This provision of state law
[2:36:18] would not be applicable as
[2:36:21] footnote seven was approved on
[2:36:22] DECEMBER 17th 2019 and amended
[2:36:23] on DECEMBER 13th 2021.
[2:36:27] The removal of footnote seven
[2:36:27] would result in the same
[2:36:28] intensity of the Encanto
[2:36:32] neighborhoods community plan
[2:36:33] land use and the rc one two
[2:36:36] zone that was adopted on
[2:36:36] NOVEMBER 16th, 2015 and in
[2:36:44] effect on JANUARY 1st, 2018.
[2:36:44] >> When a housing development
[2:36:45] application is submitted and
[2:36:49] deemed complete project is
[2:36:50] entitled to be reviewed and
[2:36:51] processed under the rules and
[2:36:55] regulations in effect at
[2:36:56] the time of submittal.
[2:36:56] Any changes to the regulations
[2:37:00] after the application is deemed
[2:37:01] complete do not apply to
[2:37:01] the project.
[2:37:02] Even if the changes occur
[2:37:04] before the project is fully
[2:37:05] approved or the building permit
[2:37:14] is issued, the effective date
[2:37:15] of the ordinance to remove
[2:37:15] Footnote seven would follow
[2:37:19] the city's procedures and
[2:37:20] the ordinance would have to
[2:37:20] take effect 30 days after
[2:37:24] the mayor's signature on
[2:37:24] NOVEMBER 18th.
[2:37:29] The choice Valley Community
[2:37:30] Planning Group received a staff
[2:37:30] presentation on the City
[2:37:31] Planning Department
[2:37:33] recommendation to amend
[2:37:34] the municipal Code to remove
[2:37:34] Footnote seven.
[2:37:35] The planning group unanimously
[2:37:38] passed the following motion to
[2:37:39] have the mayor issue an
[2:37:40] executive order that one no
[2:37:43] city official department or
[2:37:44] subdivision of the city
[2:37:44] administration approval of any
[2:37:48] project Reliant on footnote
[2:37:49] seven whether past, present or
[2:37:51] future and to footnote seven is
[2:37:52] deemed invalid and without
[2:38:00] effect on NOVEMBER 20th 2020
[2:38:01] for the Community Planners
[2:38:02] Committee unanimously passed a
[2:38:10] similar motion as described in
[2:38:11] the staff report.
[2:38:12] The Municipal Code regulations
[2:38:14] adopted by the city Council
[2:38:15] through a publicly notice
[2:38:16] process remain in effect and
[2:38:19] must be enforced and applied
[2:38:20] under the City Charter.
[2:38:20] The legislative authority to
[2:38:21] adopt or repeal such
[2:38:24] regulations resides exclusively
[2:38:25] with the City Council.
[2:38:26] A mayoral executive order
[2:38:30] directing staff not to apply
[2:38:30] these adopted regulations would
[2:38:34] undermine the City Council's
[2:38:35] legislative authority violating
[2:38:36] the separation of powers
[2:38:39] outlined in the city charter
[2:38:40] and could constitute an illegal
[2:38:41] action in violation of the city
[2:38:41] charter.
[2:38:45] The municipal Code and State
[2:38:45] law additionally retroactively
[2:38:48] applying new requirements to
[2:38:49] development project
[2:38:50] applications already submitted
[2:38:50] and in review could be a
[2:38:53] violation of state law.
[2:38:58] On DECEMBER 19th 2020 for
[2:39:02] the Planning Commission voted
[2:39:02] 5251 to recommend the City
[2:39:03] Council approval of an
[2:39:06] ordinance to repeal Footnote
[2:39:10] seven from table 13104
[2:39:14] The Today staff is recommending
[2:39:15] to adopt an amendment to
[2:39:15] the San Diego Municipal Code
[2:39:18] and Local Coastal Program
[2:39:19] Development regulations for
[2:39:20] residential zones.
[2:39:26] Table 13104 The in section
[2:39:27] 1310431 to remove footnote
[2:39:28] seven This concludes staff's
[2:39:32] presentation.
[2:39:32] >> Thank you.
[2:39:33] All right.
[2:39:33] Thank you for the presentation.
[2:39:36] Clerk Please proceed with
[2:39:36] public comment.
[2:39:37] >> Thank you.
[2:39:40] We do have over 60 people who
[2:39:41] would like to speak on this
[2:39:41] item so it will be one minute
[2:39:42] apiece.
[2:39:45] I have some reserved seats in
[2:39:46] the front in yellow when I call
[2:39:46] your name.
[2:39:49] If you can please come forward
[2:39:50] to those reserved seats for
[2:39:50] better meeting management.
[2:39:51] That would be greatly
[2:39:55] appreciated.
[2:39:56] So the first speaker is Dan
[2:40:01] Boileau or Jen Eastman.
[2:40:02] Kathleen MacLeod.
[2:40:02] MacLeod.
[2:40:03] Marcelino DaSilva.
[2:40:05] Allen Conrad and Vicki
[2:40:05] Estrella.
[2:40:06] If you can please come up to
[2:40:07] those reserved seats And Dan
[2:40:08] can come up to the microphone
[2:40:21] please.
[2:40:30] >> Dan, are you here?
[2:40:35] MR. PRESIDENT, council members
[2:40:36] and City Council My name is Dan
[2:40:37] Boyd with D.R. Horton
[2:40:41] representing speaking to
[2:40:41] the matter this evening.
[2:40:42] We've been with the community
[2:40:46] for over two years advocating
[2:40:46] our proposal which includes
[2:40:49] about 123 units.
[2:40:50] In doing so we applaud any
[2:40:54] attention that deservedly goes
[2:40:55] to the community plan.
[2:40:56] The community plan is
[2:40:59] the guarantee document.
[2:41:00] It is the principle in which
[2:41:01] footprints of communities are
[2:41:05] established and developed.
[2:41:05] If that community plan has
[2:41:06] changed, so does the makeup of
[2:41:09] that community.
[2:41:10] Zoning does not do that.
[2:41:11] The community plan does that.
[2:41:14] I'm not here advocating Our
[2:41:14] project is not subject to
[2:41:15] the agenda But I would like to
[2:41:19] say that it is possible to
[2:41:19] provide housing under this
[2:41:25] community plan within the 0 to
[2:41:26] 4 d per acre and comply with
[2:41:28] the community plan.
[2:41:29] As such our project is a fine
[2:41:30] example of that.
[2:41:34] It was deemed complete under
[2:41:35] the community plan and zoning
[2:41:36] which allows for time has
[2:41:39] concluded.
[2:41:39] Thank you.
[2:41:40] Thank you for that.
[2:41:41] Provide opportunities for new
[2:41:41] housing.
[2:41:42] Thank you Jen.
[2:41:47] Easement.
[2:41:48] >> Hi my name is Janet Eastman.
[2:41:52] You might recognize me as a
[2:41:52] resident who advocates for
[2:41:53] the relocation of the proposed
[2:41:57] Fairmount Fire Station.
[2:41:57] But no.
[2:41:58] Seven is a piece of the same
[2:41:58] puzzle.
[2:41:59] If further highlights
[2:42:02] the inequities of the region of
[2:42:03] this region of the city, I
[2:42:03] think that city council and I'm
[2:42:07] not sure who to point a finger
[2:42:08] at looks at a map and says Look
[2:42:09] there's a green space
[2:42:11] capitalism and let's build
[2:42:11] something massive like a
[2:42:12] housing development or
[2:42:16] apartment buildings that share
[2:42:17] a parking lot with a library or
[2:42:17] a four story fire station.
[2:42:21] It's never this area needs a
[2:42:22] park or a trail or an open
[2:42:22] green space.
[2:42:26] The inequity inequity will
[2:42:26] continue to persist in our
[2:42:27] communities unless we come
[2:42:30] together and take targeted
[2:42:30] consistent action.
[2:42:31] MR. Foster we are counting on
[2:42:35] you to represent our needs,
[2:42:36] take immediate action and
[2:42:36] remove the betrayal of Footnote
[2:42:37] seven in District four.
[2:42:39] Thank you.
[2:42:40] I yield my time.
[2:42:49] Kathleen Good afternoon.
[2:42:49] >> Council PRESIDENT LaCava,
[2:42:54] Henry Foster and other council
[2:42:55] members I'm Kathleen McCloud
[2:42:58] have owned my home in Encanto
[2:42:58] for 30 years and received
[2:42:59] occasional notices of public
[2:43:02] hearings affecting my property
[2:43:03] interest.
[2:43:07] However, I wasn't notified when
[2:43:07] the Planning Commission
[2:43:08] considered a rezoning in
[2:43:12] Emerald Hills that also applied
[2:43:13] to my property in yet another
[2:43:13] neighborhood.
[2:43:16] Footnote seven Not only
[2:43:16] rezoning a parcel to benefit
[2:43:20] the developer it rezoning 19%
[2:43:21] of very low density land in our
[2:43:25] planning area without affording
[2:43:26] hundreds of property owners due
[2:43:30] process rights to be informed
[2:43:31] and heard.
[2:43:31] The major scheme the major
[2:43:34] scheme took away our unique
[2:43:35] semi-rural community character.
[2:43:39] Without a community plan
[2:43:40] amendment as required by our
[2:43:43] information Bulletin 517I
[2:43:44] respectfully urge you to repeal
[2:43:44] Footnote seven.
[2:43:48] Halt projects in the pipeline
[2:43:48] as asserted by community
[2:43:53] standards.
[2:43:54] And thank you for that
[2:43:54] concluding comment process.
[2:43:55] Thank you for that Calling upon
[2:44:03] Marcelino.
[2:44:03] >> Good afternoon.
[2:44:04] My name is Marcelino de Silva.
[2:44:08] Our community of encounter has
[2:44:08] seen time and time again
[2:44:09] the disregard of our leaders
[2:44:10] when it comes to common sense
[2:44:13] practices used elsewhere in
[2:44:13] the city.
[2:44:14] In our area we have no
[2:44:16] sidewalks, no proper street
[2:44:17] lighting, irregular roads and
[2:44:18] most of these roads are in
[2:44:18] deplorable condition.
[2:44:22] Last year we had floods after
[2:44:23] heavy rainfall that debilitated
[2:44:23] our trolley system and
[2:44:27] destroyed interior of homes
[2:44:28] around it.
[2:44:28] Encounter now seems to be
[2:44:31] the new land buy in El Dorado
[2:44:32] for investors who want to
[2:44:33] maximize their profits by
[2:44:36] building as many ag use and
[2:44:37] junior ag use units that our
[2:44:38] city or loopholes will allow.
[2:44:42] No traditional rules apply for
[2:44:43] these newly proposed
[2:44:43] developments.
[2:44:44] No onsite parking, no regard to
[2:44:47] traditional fire codes, no
[2:44:47] environmental impact reports
[2:44:48] and no egress plan for
[2:44:52] the neighborhood taken into
[2:44:52] consideration.
[2:44:53] Our petition has been signed by
[2:44:56] more than 500 residents and
[2:44:57] continues to grow daily.
[2:44:57] We are certain that our numbers
[2:45:00] will be in the thousands when
[2:45:00] our local elections happens and
[2:45:01] we are going to remember who
[2:45:02] stood by us.
[2:45:06] >> Thank you Alan Connor.
[2:45:06] >> After that will be Wiki
[2:45:10] Australia and then after that
[2:45:11] if I can have the following
[2:45:11] individuals come up.
[2:45:15] Lucy Price Martha Abraham and
[2:45:15] Evelyn Smith and returns These
[2:45:19] are heavier.
[2:45:19] Please continue.
[2:45:20] I think I just heard
[2:45:21] the gentleman say that it would
[2:45:24] be illegal to stop
[2:45:25] the developments on on radio
[2:45:29] and clobber but I think it's it
[2:45:30] was illegal the way that this
[2:45:34] footnote was inserted and no
[2:45:35] one is taking accountability on
[2:45:35] this board of how it arrived
[2:45:38] there And who put it there and
[2:45:39] why.
[2:45:39] And so that's what I would
[2:45:40] like.
[2:45:43] I think that's a more illegal
[2:45:44] situation than idea that
[2:45:48] stopping the h r Horton
[2:45:49] development is illegal.
[2:45:53] Y'all got caught and y'all need
[2:45:54] to be take accountability And I
[2:45:57] want to hear who is who put
[2:45:57] this stuff there.
[2:46:00] That's what I care about
[2:46:05] because Ryan.
[2:46:10] >> Good afternoon.
[2:46:11] >> Council members Like most of
[2:46:12] the people in this room I
[2:46:12] oppose staff's recommendation
[2:46:15] as proposed.
[2:46:16] Footnote seven should be
[2:46:17] removed but must include
[2:46:20] the nullification of any and
[2:46:21] all projects resulting from its
[2:46:25] unlawful insertion into city
[2:46:25] code.
[2:46:26] By targeting only our
[2:46:27] under-resourced community.
[2:46:30] City staff violated fair
[2:46:31] housing law.
[2:46:31] Yeah they violated a law
[2:46:35] because you cannot discriminate
[2:46:36] against a community.
[2:46:36] They ignored more affluent
[2:46:40] affluent communities and picked
[2:46:41] one that they saw as
[2:46:41] vulnerable.
[2:46:45] They also skirted public
[2:46:46] transparency and input
[2:46:46] requirements by sneaking this
[2:46:49] footnote into the code behind
[2:46:50] closed doors.
[2:46:54] Please do not be swayed by
[2:46:55] the justifications you hear
[2:46:56] from the Planning Department.
[2:46:59] They are meant to distract and
[2:47:00] confuse.
[2:47:00] The core issue here is that
[2:47:04] they committed a bad act.
[2:47:05] Do not cosign on their
[2:47:09] discrimination on their on
[2:47:09] their deception.
[2:47:10] Stop it now please.
[2:47:13] Thank you for that Concluding
[2:47:13] remark.
[2:47:14] >> Lucy.
[2:47:18] Lucy Price.
[2:47:19] Good afternoon.
[2:47:20] Thank you so much for allowing
[2:47:24] me to speak.
[2:47:24] My name is Lisa.
[2:47:25] I'm so sorry.
[2:47:25] What I do.
[2:47:26] If you could just move speaking
[2:47:27] to the microphone more.
[2:47:27] >> Oh, okay.
[2:47:32] Sorry.
[2:47:32] My name is Lucy Price.
[2:47:33] My family has owned
[2:47:40] the property at 6608 Wonderland
[2:47:41] since 1907.
[2:47:42] Four generations in my family
[2:47:46] have attended Encanto
[2:47:46] Elementary School.
[2:47:50] I walked to school on bare dirt
[2:47:51] My mother walked to school on
[2:47:55] 60th on bare dirt back in 1925.
[2:48:00] My father walked to school on
[2:48:00] bare dirt.
[2:48:05] When he went to Encanto your
[2:48:05] plan with this footnote will
[2:48:09] destroy habitat immensely.
[2:48:14] And I want you to remember that
[2:48:14] bats are federally protected
[2:48:15] animals.
[2:48:18] Here is no plan to protect
[2:48:19] the habitat and the animals.
[2:48:22] >> Thank you.
[2:48:27] >> Thank you, Martha.
[2:48:27] You have time seated.
[2:48:28] If they can please raise their
[2:48:29] hands.
[2:48:29] Brandon Becerra.
[2:48:32] Thank you.
[2:48:32] Canyon Becerra.
[2:48:37] Charles Douglas.
[2:48:41] Leo the Christa Fishman Myra
[2:48:41] Ramirez.
[2:48:46] I am leader Arthur Jackson and
[2:48:47] Becky Right.
[2:48:47] Rebecca Ryan.
[2:48:51] Sorry.
[2:48:52] I'll have ten minutes.
[2:48:52] Please proceed.
[2:48:53] My name is Martha Abraham and I
[2:48:56] live in Emerald Hills and I'm
[2:48:57] speaking on the record.
[2:49:00] I want to first address
[2:49:01] the rhetoric around the housing
[2:49:02] crisis If not seven was
[2:49:05] implemented citywide.
[2:49:06] Yes, this would be a housing
[2:49:07] crisis conversation but because
[2:49:09] it only affected one
[2:49:10] neighborhood it is no longer a
[2:49:10] housing conversation.
[2:49:14] Our community plan in 2015 had
[2:49:15] increased density by 39% not
[2:49:19] including four No.
[2:49:20] Seven and the bonus to use We
[2:49:21] already have allocated
[2:49:24] the space to increase our
[2:49:25] density that still honors our
[2:49:25] community plan.
[2:49:29] We have increased density in
[2:49:30] one of the most affordable
[2:49:33] areas in San Diego by 39%.
[2:49:34] Therefore we are creating
[2:49:38] homeownership opportunities
[2:49:39] based on our 2015 plan.
[2:49:43] We are not against housing
[2:49:44] again, we are not against
[2:49:44] housing.
[2:49:49] These laws have been zoned for
[2:49:49] housing.
[2:49:50] We welcome housing that is in
[2:49:51] accordance with our community
[2:49:54] and general plan and requires
[2:49:54] developers to apply the same
[2:49:58] zoning laws in place for
[2:49:59] the rest of the city of San
[2:49:59] Diego.
[2:50:00] A housing crisis is being
[2:50:03] weaponized to destroy our
[2:50:03] community and violate our
[2:50:04] community plan.
[2:50:08] There's a process in place for
[2:50:09] a reason by weaponizing
[2:50:09] the housing crisis.
[2:50:13] You are violating the process
[2:50:13] that ensures there is equity,
[2:50:18] justice and fair treatment.
[2:50:18] The staff report on JANUARY
[2:50:19] 10th stated.
[2:50:21] Footnote seven is not illegal.
[2:50:21] It's not racist, not
[2:50:22] discriminatory.
[2:50:23] It does not violate fair
[2:50:26] housing in fact it
[2:50:26] affirmatively furthers fair
[2:50:27] housing.
[2:50:29] So why are we getting rid of it
[2:50:34] >> >> The city attorney's memo
[2:50:35] On JANUARY 22nd our newly
[2:50:36] elected city attorney Heather
[2:50:40] Ferber states that without full
[2:50:41] analysis of the impacts of
[2:50:41] where higher density would
[2:50:45] apply, it is unknown if
[2:50:46] the application of footnote
[2:50:46] seven citywide would conflict
[2:50:49] with the city's climate action
[2:50:53] plan by increasing that density
[2:50:54] in areas without access to
[2:50:54] transit.
[2:50:55] It would also need to be
[2:50:59] analyzed for consistency with
[2:51:00] the general plan and applicable
[2:51:04] community plans.
[2:51:04] Application of Footnotes seven
[2:51:05] Citywide would require an
[2:51:08] amendment to the municipal Code
[2:51:09] and would require secure
[2:51:13] environment title review.
[2:51:18] >> So in order for for this to
[2:51:19] be applied citywide all these
[2:51:23] things need to be considered.
[2:51:24] Where these things considered
[2:51:24] when they were implemented in
[2:51:28] Encanto.
[2:51:32] >> So why is it that this has
[2:51:33] to be done applied citywide but
[2:51:37] not in Encanto?
[2:51:38] Footnote seven does not require
[2:51:42] developers to do what air
[2:51:43] because they are not rezoning
[2:51:44] the land under footnote seven.
[2:51:46] But the lots where we zoned
[2:51:51] with footnote seven So why
[2:51:51] didn't that trigger air?
[2:51:56] Where's our air?
[2:51:57] There's no air to support
[2:52:01] the zoning change and there is
[2:52:02] no due process.
[2:52:02] But you are still going to
[2:52:03] allow these projects to
[2:52:06] continue.
[2:52:07] >> Going back to the city
[2:52:12] attorney's memo, if you look at
[2:52:12] the document closely you will
[2:52:16] see another footnote Footnote
[2:52:17] to that footnote states other
[2:52:21] community concerns raised
[2:52:25] include process follow to amend
[2:52:26] Table 131-04d2 add footnote
[2:52:30] seven and effectively rezone
[2:52:33] from rs one two to rs one
[2:52:33] seven.
[2:52:34] We just said that a sequel
[2:52:38] would be required for rezoning
[2:52:39] and you said here again that
[2:52:42] those areas were rezone.
[2:52:47] >> So again where is the air
[2:52:47] possible conflict?
[2:52:48] It continues to say possible
[2:52:52] conflict with the Encanto
[2:52:52] community plan regarding park
[2:52:53] spaces.
[2:52:56] Possible conflict with
[2:52:57] the equity environmental
[2:52:58] justice elements of the city's
[2:53:02] general plan and and the best
[2:53:02] part.
[2:53:07] Violation of the California
[2:53:07] Environmental Quality Act
[2:53:08] sequel.
[2:53:12] Again, where is the air?
[2:53:13] Because right here she just
[2:53:17] said it violates it.
[2:53:17] Even though this footnote has
[2:53:22] violated secure, you are still
[2:53:23] going to allow these projects
[2:53:27] to proceed If for No.
[2:53:28] Seven violated sequel all these
[2:53:28] projects also violate secure
[2:53:31] these projects are the at
[2:53:32] the very least should require
[2:53:36] should be required to do a
[2:53:37] sequel environmental review
[2:53:37] because those lots have been
[2:53:41] rezone and a sequel
[2:53:42] environmental review is
[2:53:42] required.
[2:53:45] The last sentence of this
[2:53:46] footnote states those issues
[2:53:50] are not addressed in this
[2:53:50] memorandum This memorandum.
[2:53:55] So where's the memorandum where
[2:53:56] they're addressed and why
[2:53:57] hasn't that memo been provided
[2:54:02] to the public?
[2:54:03] >> There is a critical piece
[2:54:03] that is missing from today's
[2:54:06] conversation and that is to
[2:54:07] stop any project that is using
[2:54:08] footnote seven for approval
[2:54:11] that have already submitted an
[2:54:12] application.
[2:54:12] I hope someone can make a
[2:54:16] motion to add an amendment to
[2:54:21] not allow any project to use
[2:54:22] but No seven no matter where
[2:54:22] they are in the process.
[2:54:25] We keep bringing up legal
[2:54:26] implications where the legal
[2:54:28] implications considered when
[2:54:33] Footnote seven was passed No
[2:54:34] because y'all didn't think we
[2:54:35] were going to find it.
[2:54:39] Let alone sue you over it.
[2:54:43] >> Either way you will pay.
[2:54:44] You can have blood on your
[2:54:45] hands or you can do the right
[2:54:48] thing.
[2:54:49] Doing the right thing is
[2:54:50] defined as making a motion to
[2:54:53] add an amendment to not allow
[2:54:54] any projects to use for No.
[2:54:57] Seven no matter where they are
[2:54:57] in the process.
[2:55:02] I want you all to also
[2:55:02] understand the laws codes but
[2:55:03] notes and projects you approve
[2:55:06] are feeding into structural
[2:55:06] racism whether you know it or
[2:55:07] not.
[2:55:07] Structural racism pushes
[2:55:10] the agenda to destroy black
[2:55:11] families and black communities
[2:55:12] but No seven does does exactly
[2:55:16] that taking away our park
[2:55:16] space, taking away our native
[2:55:17] grasslands, destroying our
[2:55:20] natural habitats, furthering
[2:55:21] polluting our air, destroying
[2:55:25] our infrastructure that is
[2:55:25] already broken.
[2:55:26] And most of all it's creating a
[2:55:29] safety hazard.
[2:55:30] We know that our neighbor
[2:55:31] neighborhoods suffer from
[2:55:35] systemic racism that is
[2:55:35] perpetrated by racist policy
[2:55:39] and zoning.
[2:55:40] Racism and racial inequality
[2:55:41] will continue to perpetuate in
[2:55:45] our communities if we do not
[2:55:46] collectively commit to targeted
[2:55:46] and consistent action.
[2:55:49] Though our laws are much less
[2:55:50] explicitly racist today our
[2:55:55] public and private institutions
[2:55:55] continue to discriminate
[2:55:56] against people of color.
[2:55:58] I know no one likes to be
[2:55:59] called racists but we all have
[2:56:03] a bias and sometimes our biases
[2:56:03] are rooted in racist beliefs
[2:56:04] and we MAY and we MAY not even
[2:56:08] be aware of it.
[2:56:09] Racism is perpetuated through
[2:56:09] the people and until we address
[2:56:13] our own biases the cycles
[2:56:13] continue.
[2:56:14] i am convinced that there is a
[2:56:18] greater agenda to destroy and
[2:56:19] oppress people of color and
[2:56:23] addressing structural racism is
[2:56:23] no one's priority.
[2:56:24] We have been dehumanized.
[2:56:28] You do not see us.
[2:56:29] >> You do not hear us.
[2:56:29] Our community is under attack
[2:56:33] from the mayor's office, from
[2:56:34] dsd, the planning department
[2:56:38] and our own city council member
[2:56:39] You cannot ignore what's going
[2:56:43] on in other districts because
[2:56:43] it's not your district or
[2:56:44] because it doesn't primarily
[2:56:45] affect you and your community.
[2:56:47] You are all in positions of
[2:56:48] leadership.
[2:56:48] It is your duty to serve
[2:56:49] the people and look out for
[2:56:55] their best interests.
[2:56:59] This is a monumental moment one
[2:57:00] that will be document added as
[2:57:01] part of our history.
[2:57:04] How will you how will your vote
[2:57:04] be documented?
[2:57:09] How will your vote be perceived
[2:57:10] I encourage all of you to visit
[2:57:10] our neighborhood.
[2:57:13] Any one of us will give you a
[2:57:13] tour.
[2:57:14] If you can see the devastation
[2:57:17] that is occurring with your own
[2:57:18] eyes, you cannot deny what we
[2:57:22] are saying.
[2:57:26] I leave you with this question
[2:57:27] >> Would you allow this to
[2:57:31] happen in your district?
[2:57:36] >> If the answer is no, I ask
[2:57:37] you to make a motion to add an
[2:57:38] amendment to not allow any
[2:57:42] projects to use footnote seven
[2:57:42] no matter where they are in
[2:57:43] the process.
[2:57:46] I know that you MAY not want to
[2:57:47] step on Henri's toes but if he
[2:57:51] doesn't make this motion I ask
[2:57:52] one of you to stand up for
[2:57:54] justice.
[2:57:55] >> Equal protection and
[2:57:59] fairness.
[2:58:05] >> Next is Evelyn Smith.
[2:58:05] >> Evelyn Smith You have time
[2:58:09] ceded to you by Katie.
[2:58:10] >> My name was Paul.
[2:58:10] Yes.
[2:58:11] You'll be combing your body.
[2:58:14] Tenses are after Evelyn Smith
[2:58:15] since there's a lot of them I'm
[2:58:19] calling them all at once.
[2:58:20] Please proceed.
[2:58:20] Up to now Council PRESIDENT And
[2:58:23] council member Henry Foster.
[2:58:24] I am Evelyn Smith.
[2:58:28] I live in Emery Hills which I
[2:58:31] have lived there for 51 years
[2:58:32] the entire time that I lived in
[2:58:36] San Diego.
[2:58:36] I have been involved with
[2:58:37] the neighborhood council
[2:58:41] the entire time and I have been
[2:58:45] the council chair since 2015.
[2:58:50] I currently reside on at least
[2:58:51] ten boards and commissions so I
[2:58:54] know the need of a community.
[2:58:58] Yes we need houses but we don't
[2:58:58] want 123.
[2:59:03] I want community is a different
[2:59:08] world from any other district
[2:59:08] in the city.
[2:59:12] You know our stormwater system
[2:59:17] is in bad condition.
[2:59:18] The mayor has told us there's
[2:59:18] no funds to upgrade it.
[2:59:23] Park has not had a darn thing
[2:59:27] done to see if it was built in
[2:59:27] the 60s.
[2:59:31] We are living in a shambles and
[2:59:32] to put that many homes and our
[2:59:37] community they are not doing
[2:59:41] anything about the traffic.
[2:59:42] The school has put a cap on
[2:59:42] enrollment.
[2:59:47] So where it is chosen is gone.
[2:59:50] There is no busses provided by
[2:59:51] city schools anymore.
[2:59:55] So before you vote to keep
[2:59:56] footnote seven and to let
[3:00:00] the developer go ahead with
[3:00:01] that many homes think about a
[3:00:06] movie the spot Buckley made
[3:00:07] some years ago Do the right
[3:00:11] thing for the people at Encanto
[3:00:16] and do the right thing for all
[3:00:16] of the people that you
[3:00:21] represent not just one
[3:00:22] community.
[3:00:22] >> And I thank you.
[3:00:25] Next desperate to have you and
[3:00:26] Cesar Javier, if you can please
[3:00:27] come up to the mic.
[3:00:28] You'll have one minute each and
[3:00:30] then if I can have
[3:00:30] the following individuals
[3:00:31] please come up to the yellow
[3:00:31] reserved seats.
[3:00:35] Becca Batiste.
[3:00:35] Tiago Batiste.
[3:00:39] Marge Orgel, Janine Salas and
[3:00:39] then Kenny.
[3:00:40] My apologies if I mispronounce
[3:00:49] any names but it's all right.
[3:00:50] Okay.
[3:00:53] One minute.
[3:00:57] I am privileged to have your
[3:01:02] victim of toxicity West Bank
[3:01:03] Choice Creek.
[3:01:03] We are in opposition of
[3:01:07] planning Department proposal.
[3:01:08] We are requesting that City
[3:01:12] Council modify the proposal
[3:01:17] from the planning Department to
[3:01:21] halt and deny any all projects
[3:01:22] that have ever relied upon foot
[3:01:27] not.
[3:01:32] Please step down and be a brave
[3:01:32] and free American someone who
[3:01:36] really is fit to govern.
[3:01:41] MR. Mayor or our CHAIRMAN
[3:01:49] Environmental and free city
[3:01:55] Council Council.
[3:02:00] >> I am a witness since I was a
[3:02:01] substitute teacher at Encanto
[3:02:05] Elementary School I was
[3:02:06] unmindful because I was
[3:02:10] focusing on economics.
[3:02:10] Work, work, work and earn.
[3:02:15] Now I realize that from then on
[3:02:16] I was so curious how governance
[3:02:20] works and when my one year
[3:02:24] attendance classmate Council
[3:02:30] Rivera classmate Council or
[3:02:33] Lacob usher at the San Diego
[3:02:34] 350 we had a seminar there.
[3:02:38] You handed the appreciation to
[3:02:39] the bicyclist and environmental
[3:02:42] advocate Clean Air.
[3:02:43] The issue is a leadership
[3:02:43] failure.
[3:02:47] MAY we request our respectfully
[3:02:48] to step down because we are
[3:02:52] ready, brave and free
[3:02:52] knowledgeable, sober solving
[3:02:58] problem moguls.
[3:02:58] >> Please step down.
[3:02:59] Thank you for that comment,
[3:03:04] Becca Battista.
[3:03:05] >> Good afternoon.
[3:03:09] Council.
[3:03:10] I'm Becca Battista.
[3:03:11] I am opposed to the overturn a
[3:03:14] footnote seven as it stands and
[3:03:14] I'm requesting that the City
[3:03:15] Council modify the proposal to
[3:03:18] halt and deny any and all
[3:03:19] projects that have ever relied
[3:03:19] upon.
[3:03:20] Footnote seven.
[3:03:23] Our community of Encanto has
[3:03:24] been blatantly targeted with
[3:03:25] unfair building practices
[3:03:28] allowing developers
[3:03:29] the opportunity to build these
[3:03:30] large scale projects without a
[3:03:30] single dime Going back to our
[3:03:33] community or allowing us
[3:03:34] the decency to review this
[3:03:35] massive density increase and
[3:03:38] complete 180 degree change from
[3:03:38] our community plan.
[3:03:43] How is it that our city is
[3:03:43] giant with our city's giant
[3:03:44] deficit?
[3:03:44] You are allowing these projects
[3:03:47] to be shouldered by a community
[3:03:48] with such limited resources
[3:03:49] allowing shoddy apartment
[3:03:52] complexes to be approved
[3:03:53] without proper impact fees and
[3:03:54] environmental studies It is
[3:03:54] deeply wrong.
[3:03:57] Is your plan to just dump these
[3:03:58] projects on the shoulders of
[3:03:58] Encanto and just leave us to
[3:04:02] figure it out after the fact?
[3:04:02] The only explanation for this
[3:04:03] is that there is a
[3:04:06] collaboration between the city
[3:04:07] and the developers.
[3:04:08] We promise you that we will not
[3:04:09] sit quietly as we have done all
[3:04:12] these years.
[3:04:13] >> Thank you for that
[3:04:13] concluding comment.
[3:04:21] Tiago, what is the.
[3:04:22] I urge each of you to stop by
[3:04:26] my house, my neighborhood, Your
[3:04:27] neighborhood, MR. Foster.
[3:04:31] This is your people right here.
[3:04:32] We need your right now.
[3:04:33] We're not We are not getting
[3:04:35] heard by you and I.
[3:04:36] Please, I urge you guys to walk
[3:04:40] with us around our neighborhood
[3:04:41] choosing a block worth of a
[3:04:45] lots.
[3:04:46] How the city is allowing
[3:04:50] developers to destroy our
[3:04:50] neighborhood.
[3:04:55] I cannot think about any other
[3:04:56] thing but one more time, MR.
[3:04:56] Foster.
[3:04:59] We do need you.
[3:05:00] My doors are open for you.
[3:05:04] I can have a coffee with you.
[3:05:05] We can go around this
[3:05:09] neighborhood and I challenge
[3:05:10] you to walk to the trolley from
[3:05:15] any of those properties.
[3:05:15] Thank you, Marge.
[3:05:20] Good.
[3:05:21] >> Good afternoon, council
[3:05:21] members.
[3:05:25] I'm Marge Wargo, a happy
[3:05:26] resident in Encanto.
[3:05:30] For 40 years And I'm grateful
[3:05:34] that it looks like footnote
[3:05:35] seven is going to be removed.
[3:05:39] But I want to ask you to please
[3:05:40] amend that to be able to
[3:05:45] prevent the Klauber project and
[3:05:45] the Emerald Hills project from
[3:05:46] moving forward.
[3:05:49] We do not have
[3:05:50] the infrastructure in our
[3:05:54] community to be able to
[3:05:55] increase the density as those
[3:05:55] projects would do.
[3:06:00] We don't have the road space.
[3:06:00] The roads are a mess.
[3:06:03] We don't have fire exits
[3:06:04] adequate to large numbers of
[3:06:04] people.
[3:06:08] We're seeing what happens when
[3:06:09] neighborhoods can't get out of
[3:06:09] an area.
[3:06:14] Please amend the staff report
[3:06:19] and eliminate the permits for
[3:06:24] the Klauber project and Emerald
[3:06:24] Hills.
[3:06:24] >> Thank you for that
[3:06:25] concluding comment.
[3:06:27] Jeanine Salas.
[3:06:28] After that will be kind of key
[3:06:29] and then after that if I can
[3:06:33] have Andrea through Amelia
[3:06:33] Meany, Susan Baldwin and Hazel
[3:06:35] Higgins come up to those yellow
[3:06:36] reserved seats.
[3:06:41] >> Please proceed Along
[3:06:41] the term these homes, these
[3:06:45] single family homes, these
[3:06:46] homes that they're talking
[3:06:47] about are massive apartment
[3:06:51] complexes proposing to be about
[3:06:51] 500ft.
[3:06:55] What kind of family can live in
[3:06:55] a 500 square foot home?
[3:06:59] I think what this footnote is
[3:07:00] doing is setting a very
[3:07:01] dangerous precedent for our
[3:07:05] city, allowing special interest
[3:07:05] groups and private investors to
[3:07:09] exploit these backdoor tactics
[3:07:10] and negotiations without any
[3:07:14] kind of transparency,
[3:07:14] accountability or due
[3:07:14] diligence.
[3:07:19] These proposed developments are
[3:07:19] also exploiting these loopholes
[3:07:20] that will bypass paying any
[3:07:24] development impact fees.
[3:07:25] Why would we do that when we're
[3:07:25] in such a deficit?
[3:07:29] I don't understand it.
[3:07:30] That's the question we should
[3:07:31] be asking is why wouldn't we
[3:07:34] tax them?
[3:07:35] Why wouldn't we take money from
[3:07:35] investors that are going to
[3:07:39] make so much money?
[3:07:40] The Environmental Impact
[3:07:43] reporters from 2015 Thank you
[3:07:44] for that concluding comment.
[3:07:47] >> Next is Canning Keith.
[3:07:48] Can you have time seated if
[3:07:49] the following individuals can
[3:07:49] please raise their hand?
[3:07:51] Sage Gonzalez Spalding.
[3:07:56] Thank you Saatchi Eagleton or
[3:08:00] thank you Peter Wilding.
[3:08:01] Well, thank you.
[3:08:06] Lisa Bezerra, Brian Poland and
[3:08:08] Alex.
[3:08:13] As you know, our Alex.
[3:08:14] Oh, right there.
[3:08:14] Okay.
[3:08:14] Thank you.
[3:08:15] You'll have seven minutes.
[3:08:16] Please proceed.
[3:08:18] Hello.
[3:08:19] Hi.
[3:08:19] My name is Kenny Key in
[3:08:23] opposition of the current
[3:08:24] reversal with As it stands you
[3:08:27] need to remove that footnote
[3:08:28] seven as well as stop
[3:08:32] the projects and I love my
[3:08:33] city.
[3:08:34] You know I love my community.
[3:08:37] It's a beautiful community and
[3:08:38] I'm representing a lot of
[3:08:38] people here.
[3:08:39] I can't make it today.
[3:08:42] Senior citizens from our
[3:08:43] neighborhood I got an Air Force
[3:08:43] background.
[3:08:47] I work for the county of San
[3:08:47] Diego five and a half years.
[3:08:48] I've got thousands of hours of
[3:08:52] flying in traffic and working
[3:08:53] on repair and wrote for
[3:08:53] the county of San Diego to plow
[3:08:57] snow up in Julian Campo Alpine
[3:09:01] Spring Valley Road Station work
[3:09:01] 18 months on a striping crew.
[3:09:02] I'm probably one of the most
[3:09:05] qualified people in this room I
[3:09:05] know to speak on traffic and
[3:09:06] repair the roads.
[3:09:06] Okay.
[3:09:10] If you haven't done a job you
[3:09:11] can't speak on it.
[3:09:12] We need more people and
[3:09:15] understand the damage that's
[3:09:15] caused by traffic.
[3:09:15] Okay.
[3:09:16] On roads.
[3:09:16] Okay.
[3:09:22] So I want to speak to the fact
[3:09:25] that you guys are casting
[3:09:31] projects and and ideas that are
[3:09:31] just that They're just ideas.
[3:09:32] They're not proven, they're not
[3:09:36] based on data or you know, any
[3:09:36] kind of input that matters.
[3:09:40] You know, it's just based on
[3:09:41] you know, we're going to okay
[3:09:41] build let's do it like this.
[3:09:42] Okay?
[3:09:45] And that is not best practices
[3:09:46] We didn't elect you guys to get
[3:09:50] up here and demand best
[3:09:50] practices out of your staff and
[3:09:55] your employees of the city But
[3:09:56] you guys you don't hold
[3:09:59] yourself to the same standards
[3:10:00] when it comes to items that
[3:10:00] crossed your desk on this vote
[3:10:04] that require your vote.
[3:10:05] You're going to you're going to
[3:10:06] brush off the data that you
[3:10:09] need to make educated decisions
[3:10:10] on these projects that are
[3:10:10] coming your way.
[3:10:14] You go brush aside that
[3:10:14] information.
[3:10:15] I would say that's almost as
[3:10:21] true in violation of your oath
[3:10:22] >> Okay.
[3:10:22] The last I checked people
[3:10:26] developers don't vote.
[3:10:30] They MAY give you some money
[3:10:30] but that don't shouldn't
[3:10:31] influence your decision making
[3:10:35] up here to voting is necessary
[3:10:40] But you're moral ethics and
[3:10:44] integrity is what we want to We
[3:10:45] put you up there today We need
[3:10:45] champion leadership.
[3:10:49] I remember George Stevens GOD
[3:10:50] rest his soul.
[3:10:50] He was our champion.
[3:10:54] He said to Standards District
[3:10:55] board He probably rolling over
[3:10:59] right now with
[3:11:00] the representation that we get.
[3:11:05] Yeah I said it because I love
[3:11:08] him on hills I love and care to
[3:11:09] Right now we can We're trying
[3:11:14] to take a video in a community
[3:11:14] that can rewind the tape and
[3:11:18] you guys as reset speeches
[3:11:19] talking about Martin Luther
[3:11:23] King and trying to align
[3:11:23] yourself in your districts with
[3:11:28] his values, his principles How
[3:11:33] dare you come in here today and
[3:11:33] defecate on his memory, his
[3:11:37] legacy by allowing this project
[3:11:42] to harm a black community?
[3:11:43] >> Let's call it like let's
[3:11:43] let's educate people Up until
[3:11:47] late 60s in the hills had
[3:11:47] redlining conditions.
[3:11:48] We couldn't buy property up
[3:11:51] there.
[3:11:52] It used to be a golf course
[3:11:52] Emerald Hill the churches was
[3:11:56] the clubhouse okay We couldn't
[3:11:57] even play up here Probably oc
[3:12:01] is one of the more beautiful
[3:12:02] locations in the city Don't
[3:12:05] okay And you want to give it to
[3:12:06] it to a developer at a state
[3:12:11] developer who want to take dump
[3:12:12] on our community with a shallow
[3:12:14] vision for our community not a
[3:12:15] shallow vision a 128 homes for
[3:12:20] millionaires That's not what we
[3:12:20] need.
[3:12:21] >> We need sensible
[3:12:25] comprehensive build and we
[3:12:25] don't need edu edu's wood no
[3:12:30] parking establishing a
[3:12:30] community.
[3:12:31] I bet you will do that.
[3:12:32] You bet you wouldn't do that at
[3:12:34] Torrey Pines Who a district
[3:12:35] representative You need to get
[3:12:39] on district board and making us
[3:12:39] look bad.
[3:12:40] This is America's finest city
[3:12:44] and right now it does not look
[3:12:44] like debt.
[3:12:45] This is a community push back.
[3:12:48] We are united You don't ignore
[3:12:49] push back Martin Luther King
[3:12:53] wouldn't ignored great He would
[3:12:54] not aligned himself with no Jim
[3:12:58] Crow Footnote whoever thought
[3:13:03] it out need to come clean and
[3:13:04] stand on your record.
[3:13:07] >> Yeah yeah yeah The people
[3:13:12] demand it We put you there.
[3:13:12] >> Okay.
[3:13:13] We need championship
[3:13:13] leadership.
[3:13:17] You need to be protecting us
[3:13:18] from aggressive developers.
[3:13:23] You need to call up the dogs.
[3:13:23] I buy sd.Com all that kind of
[3:13:24] stuff to companies that come in
[3:13:26] our neighborhood trying to give
[3:13:27] does pennies on the dollar to
[3:13:32] senior citizens to monitor real
[3:13:33] estate so you can tear down a
[3:13:36] home and put a former complex
[3:13:36] up.
[3:13:37] We don't want to cop apartment
[3:13:38] complexes.
[3:13:41] We want to be at a strip.
[3:13:42] We want to be able to transfer
[3:13:42] generational wealth just like
[3:13:43] y'all do in your district.
[3:13:46] Yeah, well but if you guys
[3:13:47] allow developers to come in and
[3:13:51] buy up our community yeah I'm
[3:13:52] going to refrain from language
[3:13:56] I want to use speak for buying
[3:14:00] up our community, selling off
[3:14:01] our assets to developers.
[3:14:05] >> We have no poor young black
[3:14:06] and brown families that want to
[3:14:06] buy.
[3:14:10] It's already hard to live to
[3:14:11] buy here.
[3:14:12] >> We never want to give away
[3:14:15] our property.
[3:14:15] Well how about fixing
[3:14:16] the world?
[3:14:16] How about putting some concrete
[3:14:20] sidewalks in the ghetto?
[3:14:20] >> The latest up here Juswant I
[3:14:23] don't know how she was but she
[3:14:24] broke up about 3 or 4
[3:14:25] generations and you all just
[3:14:25] ignore it.
[3:14:28] It's like you got to middle
[3:14:29] fingers pull back on us from
[3:14:34] City hall imo Hills South San
[3:14:35] Diego is how we feel this new
[3:14:38] yellow it we're telling you how
[3:14:39] we feel Does it matter?
[3:14:39] It would matter to Martin
[3:14:43] Luther King and me.
[3:14:44] >> It should matter to you
[3:14:47] where people okay The developer
[3:14:52] is not who you should represent
[3:14:53] If you if they show you it
[3:14:53] won't be the first and it won't
[3:14:57] be the last.
[3:14:57] >> Okay.
[3:15:02] You know you need to focus on
[3:15:02] the people.
[3:15:06] >> Please don't require them to
[3:15:07] have parking requirement.
[3:15:11] >> I mean the world conditions
[3:15:11] you don't even take care of now
[3:15:12] and you want to put a D.R.
[3:15:16] Horton project in a middle of a
[3:15:17] neighborhood and not require
[3:15:18] him to have no color.
[3:15:21] >> You guys ought to be ashamed
[3:15:22] of yourself.
[3:15:26] >> Andrea Yeah.
[3:15:27] Thank you, Andrea And then if I
[3:15:31] can have the following
[3:15:32] individuals in the front row a
[3:15:32] mini a mini Susan Baldwin and
[3:15:36] Hazel Higgins now you have time
[3:15:36] ceded to you by several
[3:15:37] individuals if they can please
[3:15:39] raise their hands has 19
[3:15:43] apostles whatever.
[3:15:48] Gregory Morales, Mary Young,
[3:15:53] Ian Mills Mills I'm sorry
[3:15:54] the handwriting's a bit
[3:15:59] difficult It looks like I Liam
[3:16:01] Maybe now Liam I'll come back.
[3:16:06] Rebecca Wilder Sorry to read
[3:16:10] Catherine Leanne Leon Lewis
[3:16:15] Caskey Marisol Campbell.
[3:16:16] Roslyn Cook.
[3:16:20] Janet Clover.
[3:16:24] Michelle Logan and Darlene Not
[3:16:25] Is there anyone that seated
[3:16:25] time that didn't get their name
[3:16:30] called What's your name sir
[3:16:30] John Mellencamp.
[3:16:35] >> Oh, Jim Yes, that is what it
[3:16:35] says.
[3:16:35] Thank you very much.
[3:16:36] You'll have 14 minutes.
[3:16:39] Please proceed.
[3:16:40] I am speaking on the record.
[3:16:41] I'm Andrea Head Hebrew.
[3:16:43] I am first and foremost a
[3:16:43] citizen of the United States of
[3:16:47] America and by law a national
[3:16:48] who owes my permanent
[3:16:49] allegiance to the United States
[3:16:49] of America which means its
[3:16:52] Constitution.
[3:16:53] I am the chair of Choice Valley
[3:16:54] Community Planning Group
[3:16:58] The following statement is
[3:16:58] entered into the record Encanto
[3:16:59] is used interchangeably with
[3:17:02] Choice Valley in the statement
[3:17:03] as the name change occurred a
[3:17:05] short time after the publishing
[3:17:06] of the 2015 Community Plan
[3:17:07] The adoption of Footnote seven
[3:17:10] which imposed selective zoning
[3:17:11] in the Encanto neighborhoods
[3:17:12] was a betrayal of our community
[3:17:15] and a clear violation of due
[3:17:16] process equal protection,
[3:17:17] environmental law and fair
[3:17:20] housing obligations.
[3:17:21] It was a policy enacted without
[3:17:22] meaningful input bypassing
[3:17:25] procedural safeguards,
[3:17:26] environmental reviews and our
[3:17:27] community's right to equitable
[3:17:31] development including that of
[3:17:32] 21st Century Parks as Degnan
[3:17:36] designated for our areas
[3:17:36] affected in our community plan.
[3:17:40] Footnote seven must be repealed
[3:17:40] retroactively because it was
[3:17:44] unlawful at inception and is
[3:17:45] poised to do irreversible and
[3:17:46] severe harm to our community.
[3:17:49] Before Footnote seven District
[3:17:50] four the low resource primarily
[3:17:54] nonwhite district with by far
[3:17:55] the greatest concentration of
[3:17:55] black San Diego and had
[3:17:59] crumbling roads, poor schools
[3:18:03] boarded up storefronts, food
[3:18:04] deserts severely deficient
[3:18:05] stormwater infrastructure trash
[3:18:08] strewn medians filled with
[3:18:09] cracked weed written asphalt
[3:18:13] and streets with no sidewalks.
[3:18:14] The few parks we have are
[3:18:14] broken down relics from
[3:18:18] the middle of the last century
[3:18:19] the only amenity we had was 17%
[3:18:23] of the city's r's one two Lot
[3:18:23] size.
[3:18:27] Footnote seven completely
[3:18:27] eliminated the one amenity we
[3:18:31] had District one the far
[3:18:32] wealthier and whiter District
[3:18:35] had all the things lacking in
[3:18:36] District four and had a
[3:18:39] whopping 61% of the rs one two
[3:18:39] Lot size.
[3:18:42] Footnote seven Reduced District
[3:18:43] four share of that lot size
[3:18:46] from 17% to zero while
[3:18:49] increasing District one share
[3:18:50] from 61% to 74%.
[3:18:55] Housing cost is driven at least
[3:18:55] as much by location as it is by
[3:18:56] inventory.
[3:18:59] Everyone is familiar with
[3:19:00] the retail and real estate
[3:19:04] maxim of location location,
[3:19:04] location.
[3:19:05] As long as there are large
[3:19:09] areas that are deemed undesired
[3:19:10] rebuild the cost of housing
[3:19:11] will remain inflated.
[3:19:14] Fixing this means leveling
[3:19:15] the public amenities available
[3:19:15] throughout our city.
[3:19:19] Modern well-paying park What
[3:19:20] I'm sorry Modern
[3:19:20] well-maintained parks bring
[3:19:24] higher quality retail and more
[3:19:25] residents with higher incomes,
[3:19:26] more schooling and more time to
[3:19:29] engage civically When Choice
[3:19:30] Valley is no longer considered
[3:19:34] undesirable, the prices of
[3:19:35] housing and other areas of our
[3:19:35] city will come down.
[3:19:40] Our community does not oppose
[3:19:40] housing.
[3:19:41] In fact the 2015 Encanto
[3:19:44] Community Plan significantly
[3:19:45] increased multi housing
[3:19:46] capacity by over 8000 units.
[3:19:49] While reducing single family
[3:19:50] units by 203 resulting in a net
[3:19:54] population increase of over
[3:19:57] 28,000 a 160% growth.
[3:19:58] So why are we so fiercely
[3:20:01] opposed to footnote seven?
[3:20:01] Because it was unlawful and
[3:20:02] unconscionable.
[3:20:06] It was buried within
[3:20:06] the sprawling Phase two of
[3:20:07] the 2019 land Development Code.
[3:20:11] A massive collection collection
[3:20:11] of amendments divided into
[3:20:16] three phases due to its sheer
[3:20:16] size.
[3:20:16] The Phase two update was
[3:20:17] presented to the Community
[3:20:20] Planners Committee or cpc on
[3:20:21] October 2nd, 2019, giving
[3:20:25] members only three weeks to
[3:20:25] review it before Planning
[3:20:26] Commission's hearing on OCTOBER
[3:20:29] 26th, 2019.
[3:20:29] At that Planning Commission
[3:20:30] meeting cpc Chair Wallace
[3:20:34] Wolford requested a three month
[3:20:34] continuance citing
[3:20:35] the overwhelming size of
[3:20:39] the update and the need for
[3:20:40] the cpc individual planning
[3:20:40] groups and the code monitoring
[3:20:43] team to adequately review and
[3:20:43] provide input.
[3:20:48] The cpc had voted unanimously
[3:20:48] 27 to 0 to support the requests
[3:20:49] underscoring the need for
[3:20:53] sufficient time for public
[3:20:54] participation which is required
[3:20:57] for meaningful due process.
[3:20:57] Priscilla Escobar, chair of
[3:21:02] the Code Monitoring Team,
[3:21:03] described the process as being
[3:21:03] quote like drinking out of a
[3:21:07] firehose in quote illustrating
[3:21:07] how overwhelming the rushed
[3:21:08] timeline was for those tasked
[3:21:11] with analyzing the changes.
[3:21:12] Despite these very valid
[3:21:12] concerns, the Planning
[3:21:13] Commission denied
[3:21:16] the continuance.
[3:21:17] Commissioner Vicki Granites
[3:21:17] harshly rebuked the cpc and
[3:21:21] Planning groups for quote being
[3:21:22] so far behind.
[3:21:22] While Commissioner Susan
[3:21:26] Pearson argued that there were
[3:21:27] time sensitive items requiring
[3:21:30] immediate approval notably
[3:21:30] during that meeting
[3:21:31] Commissioner William Hoffman
[3:21:32] questioned the rationale behind
[3:21:35] requirements of Footnote seven
[3:21:36] applying exclusively to
[3:21:37] southeastern San Diego and
[3:21:37] Encanto.
[3:21:40] In response, Planning
[3:21:41] department staff provided
[3:21:41] misleading justifications
[3:21:45] stating that Footnote seven was
[3:21:46] needed to quote clean up
[3:21:49] inconsistencies and avoid
[3:21:50] penalizing smaller lots in
[3:21:51] Encanto an assertion that
[3:21:54] failed to acknowledge
[3:21:55] the Ordinance's direct conflict
[3:21:56] with the Encanto neighborhood's
[3:21:56] community plan.
[3:22:00] Following this flawed process,
[3:22:00] the City Council voted
[3:22:03] unanimously on DECEMBER 17th,
[3:22:04] 2019 to adopt phase two of
[3:22:05] the Land Development Code
[3:22:05] update without incorporating
[3:22:09] any input from the cpc code
[3:22:09] monitoring team or individual
[3:22:13] planning groups.
[3:22:14] Footnote seven represents a
[3:22:15] violation of the affirmatively
[3:22:19] furthering fair housing or affo
[3:22:19] obligations under state and
[3:22:20] federal law.
[3:22:23] These obligations require local
[3:22:24] governments to actively
[3:22:25] dismantle housing
[3:22:27] discrimination and segregation
[3:22:28] while creating equitable
[3:22:28] opportunities for all
[3:22:29] residents.
[3:22:33] Footnote seven does
[3:22:33] the opposite.
[3:22:34] By disproportionately burdening
[3:22:37] choice Valley a predominantly
[3:22:37] black and Hispanic community
[3:22:38] with the reduction of
[3:22:41] greenspace to increase housing
[3:22:42] stock with reduced lot sizes
[3:22:43] and increased density it
[3:22:46] exacerbates preexisting
[3:22:47] inequities and segregated
[3:22:47] housing patterns.
[3:22:51] Furthermore, adding more market
[3:22:52] rate housing to an area already
[3:22:55] deemed undesirable due to its
[3:22:56] lack of resources and its
[3:22:57] racial segregation of primarily
[3:22:57] nonwhite residents.
[3:23:01] Does nothing to affirmatively
[3:23:01] further fair housing.
[3:23:02] Such housing will remain
[3:23:06] undervalued compared to
[3:23:07] virtually identical market rate
[3:23:07] housing in whiter high resource
[3:23:08] areas.
[3:23:11] Perpetuating the racial and
[3:23:12] economic inequities.
[3:23:12] That effort was designed to
[3:23:16] address.
[3:23:16] Additionally, the increased
[3:23:17] density allowed by Footnote
[3:23:20] seven imposes significant
[3:23:21] environmental burdens on our
[3:23:22] community including worsening
[3:23:22] heat island effects
[3:23:26] overburdened stormwater
[3:23:26] infrastructure and reducing
[3:23:30] access to public green spaces.
[3:23:30] These impacts contravene both
[3:23:31] Fair Housing Act and
[3:23:35] California's eight ffo mandates
[3:23:36] which demand proactive measures
[3:23:40] to address systemic inequities
[3:23:40] in housing and environmental
[3:23:41] quality.
[3:23:44] Footnote seven entrenches these
[3:23:45] disparities rather than
[3:23:45] alleviating them making it
[3:23:49] repeal necessary to comply with
[3:23:50] law and uphold fair housing
[3:23:50] principles.
[3:23:54] The city has failed to
[3:23:55] demonstrate that Footnote seven
[3:23:55] serves a public good that
[3:23:59] justifies the disparate impact
[3:24:00] it imposes on Choice Valley.
[3:24:00] While disparate impact on
[3:24:04] certain communities MAY in
[3:24:05] limited cases be permissible
[3:24:05] under equal protection
[3:24:09] principles if they are tied to
[3:24:10] a compelling public interest.
[3:24:10] Footnote seven fails to meet
[3:24:13] the standard to the extent
[3:24:14] the stated justification about
[3:24:15] cleaning code up and making it
[3:24:18] more consistent makes any sense
[3:24:19] And it's not suspected as a
[3:24:23] pretext for something shameful
[3:24:24] It appears to have been done
[3:24:25] for administrative convenience
[3:24:28] rather than any demonstra ble
[3:24:29] benefit to the public at large
[3:24:30] or to the community It burdens
[3:24:33] as established in village of
[3:24:34] Arlington Heights versus
[3:24:34] Metropolitan Housing
[3:24:35] Development.
[3:24:38] Government policies that create
[3:24:39] racial disparities must have
[3:24:40] strong justifications rooted in
[3:24:42] the public good to withstand
[3:24:43] legal scrutiny.
[3:24:44] Footnote seven has no such
[3:24:47] justification This policy's
[3:24:48] disparate impact combined with
[3:24:52] its procedural irregularities
[3:24:53] renders it indefensible under
[3:24:53] equal protection principles.
[3:24:57] The city attorney's dedication
[3:24:58] to defending the indefensible
[3:25:02] acts of the city sets a new bar
[3:25:03] for behavior that is merely
[3:25:07] under the color of law.
[3:25:08] >> Footnote seven also violates
[3:25:09] Sequoyah, which mandates an
[3:25:12] environmental review for
[3:25:13] significant zoning changes.
[3:25:14] The failure to conduct an
[3:25:14] environmental impact report
[3:25:18] constitutes a deprivation of
[3:25:19] procedural due process a seek
[3:25:19] to ensure stakeholders are
[3:25:23] informed of potential
[3:25:23] environmental impacts and given
[3:25:24] the opportunity to participate
[3:25:26] in mitigating them.
[3:25:27] This omission denied residents
[3:25:28] of Choice Valley
[3:25:28] the opportunity to raise
[3:25:32] concerns about the increased
[3:25:32] densities environmental
[3:25:33] consequences such as heat
[3:25:33] island effect and storm water
[3:25:37] runoff as established in Moline
[3:25:38] versus Central Hanover Bank and
[3:25:42] Trust and Walker vs City of
[3:25:42] Hutchinson Due process requires
[3:25:43] notice reasonably calculated to
[3:25:47] inform interested parties and
[3:25:48] provide them a fair opportunity
[3:25:48] to be heard.
[3:25:52] The absence of a second
[3:25:52] mandated eia also violates
[3:25:53] precedent requiring
[3:25:57] environmental review of
[3:25:57] significant zoning changes per
[3:26:01] Know Oil Inc. Versus the City
[3:26:01] of Los Angeles.
[3:26:02] Furthermore, Footnote seven is
[3:26:06] substantively unlawful because
[3:26:06] it conflicts with the Encanto
[3:26:07] neighborhoods Community plan of
[3:26:11] 2015 and the city's general
[3:26:11] plan under Lester
[3:26:12] Communications Inc. Versus
[3:26:16] the City of Walnut Creek Zoning
[3:26:16] ordinances inconsistent with
[3:26:17] the general plan are invalid
[3:26:20] from inception.
[3:26:21] Footnote seven Increased
[3:26:21] density contradicts the Encanto
[3:26:25] community plan's provisions for
[3:26:25] infrastructure development,
[3:26:26] greenspace preservation and
[3:26:30] environmental sustainability
[3:26:31] rendering it void under this
[3:26:31] principle allowing projects to
[3:26:35] proceed under Footnote seven
[3:26:36] would set a dangerous precedent
[3:26:40] and undermine public trust If
[3:26:41] developers and city officials
[3:26:41] are allowed to benefit from
[3:26:44] ordinances later deemed
[3:26:44] unlawful.
[3:26:45] It creates a perverse incentive
[3:26:49] a perverse incentive for
[3:26:50] passing and relying on unlawful
[3:26:50] legislation.
[3:26:54] California Government Code
[3:26:59] 66498.1 prohibits reliant on
[3:27:00] ordinances that do not comply
[3:27:01] with state or federal law.
[3:27:03] Acker versus Baldwin
[3:27:04] invalidated development
[3:27:04] approval based on
[3:27:05] unconstitutional zoning code
[3:27:08] and Starbird versus County of
[3:27:09] San Benito has specific
[3:27:13] applications to violations of
[3:27:13] Sequoyah.
[3:27:14] Allowing such reliance would
[3:27:15] discourage accountability erode
[3:27:18] confidence in the city's
[3:27:19] planning processes and
[3:27:19] disproportionately harm
[3:27:23] marginalized communities.
[3:27:24] It is essential to send a clear
[3:27:25] message that unlawful
[3:27:27] ordinances cannot serve as
[3:27:28] the basis for development
[3:27:28] approvals.
[3:27:32] The Choice Valley Community
[3:27:33] does not oppose housing.
[3:27:33] Our 2015 community plan
[3:27:34] demonstrated our commitment to
[3:27:37] sustainable and equitable
[3:27:38] development.
[3:27:39] Footnote seven seven However
[3:27:42] disregarded our needs and
[3:27:43] the law prioritizing developer
[3:27:47] profits over both its
[3:27:47] retroactive repeal is necessary
[3:27:52] not only to correct past harms
[3:27:52] but to ensure a future where
[3:27:56] all San Diego communities are
[3:27:57] treated with fairness, dignity
[3:27:57] and respect.
[3:27:58] If there is a burden to be
[3:28:02] borne as a result of
[3:28:03] the unlawful passage of
[3:28:03] Footnote seven it should not
[3:28:06] fall on a demographic that has
[3:28:06] been misused and neglected for
[3:28:11] over a century.
[3:28:11] >> So City of San Diego.
[3:28:16] Pay the developers if they
[3:28:16] should prevail or you think
[3:28:17] they ought to prevail but halt
[3:28:21] the development that is based
[3:28:22] on wrong and unlawful zoning.
[3:28:22] That remedy though somewhat
[3:28:25] painful is the least our
[3:28:26] community's do on this matter
[3:28:29] and do this without board
[3:28:30] burdening our already low
[3:28:35] resource community with taking
[3:28:35] you to court.
[3:28:36] The recommendation before you
[3:28:40] today needs to amended to have
[3:28:41] explicit retroactive effect.
[3:28:45] The mere fact that footnote
[3:28:46] seven effectively resound an
[3:28:49] area with a significant change
[3:28:49] in density without an
[3:28:50] environmental impact review is
[3:28:55] all alone sufficient reason for
[3:28:55] you to amend it?
[3:28:56] This should be a no brainer
[3:28:58] decision albeit one that
[3:28:59] requires the courage of your
[3:29:03] patriotism.
[3:29:04] And just in terms of just math
[3:29:08] basic math one acre divided by
[3:29:11] 20,000ft is to two Lot two
[3:29:12] unit not four.
[3:29:16] >> Thank you.
[3:29:21] >> Next is Ameen Amin.
[3:29:22] You have time ceded to you by
[3:29:26] Sanam Pessl over Sanam Can you
[3:29:27] please raise your hand?
[3:29:27] >> Thank you so much.
[3:29:28] You'll have two minutes.
[3:29:30] Please proceed.
[3:29:31] Good afternoon.
[3:29:35] Well, let's be honest Footnote
[3:29:36] seven was quietly added to
[3:29:36] the city code.
[3:29:37] We all know that by now with no
[3:29:40] transparency on notice to
[3:29:41] the community And now it's
[3:29:42] being used to push through high
[3:29:45] density projects.
[3:29:46] These projects are
[3:29:46] fundamentally changing
[3:29:47] the character of our
[3:29:51] neighborhoods with or without
[3:29:51] our consent And they're based
[3:29:54] on a rule that none of
[3:29:55] the residents didn't even know
[3:29:55] existed.
[3:29:56] This isn't just about
[3:29:59] the density.
[3:30:00] It's about justice.
[3:30:01] And Canada has a long history
[3:30:05] of redlining and equality and
[3:30:05] this footnote feels like yet
[3:30:08] another blow to a community
[3:30:09] that already endured systemic
[3:30:14] inequalities for decades by
[3:30:14] allowing these projects to
[3:30:15] proceed.
[3:30:15] Accelerating gentrification
[3:30:18] displacing long time residents
[3:30:19] and continuing a legacy of
[3:30:23] unfair treatment.
[3:30:23] There's also a legal question
[3:30:24] here How can project still rely
[3:30:28] on a quietly added footnote one
[3:30:28] that many stakeholders weren't
[3:30:32] even aware of be considered
[3:30:33] valid?
[3:30:33] This lack of transparency
[3:30:34] undermines trust in the process
[3:30:38] and raises serious concerns
[3:30:38] about whether these projects
[3:30:39] comply with the principle of
[3:30:43] equality and due process.
[3:30:44] I urge the Council today to
[3:30:48] take immediate action halt
[3:30:49] these projects that are tied to
[3:30:49] footnote seven until a full
[3:30:53] review can be conducted with
[3:30:54] proper community community
[3:30:54] input.
[3:30:57] Let's take a step back and
[3:30:58] think about how we can support
[3:30:58] and can do it without
[3:31:02] continuing to perpetuate
[3:31:02] the pattern of inequality and
[3:31:03] displacement.
[3:31:07] >> Thank you xo Susan Baldwin.
[3:31:11] You have time to buy Yvonne
[3:31:11] Jones.
[3:31:12] Yvonne Jones are you here?
[3:31:12] Thank you.
[3:31:13] You'll have two minutes.
[3:31:16] Please proceed.
[3:31:16] >> Thank you.
[3:31:20] I am here speaking on behalf of
[3:31:21] neighbors for a better San
[3:31:21] Diego.
[3:31:22] In support of the Planning
[3:31:25] Department's recommendation to
[3:31:26] remove a footnote Footnote
[3:31:30] seven which only applied to
[3:31:31] the Troilus Valley Community
[3:31:31] Planning area and Southeastern
[3:31:35] Community Planning area where
[3:31:36] there is no such zoning and did
[3:31:40] not affect any other rs one to
[3:31:41] zoned lands in the city.
[3:31:45] Footnotes seven should be
[3:31:46] removed from the municipal code
[3:31:49] however because of the improper
[3:31:50] and apparently deliberatively
[3:31:54] deliberately deceptive process
[3:31:55] used to approve Footnote seven
[3:31:55] which has yet to be explained
[3:31:59] by the Planning Department or
[3:32:00] any city officials The removal
[3:32:03] of footnote seven should be
[3:32:04] applied retroactively to any
[3:32:08] projects that submitted
[3:32:08] applications using the footnote
[3:32:12] zoning including the two
[3:32:13] projects known as the Klauber
[3:32:14] Project and Radio Towers Old
[3:32:17] Memory Lane project.
[3:32:18] These projects should not be
[3:32:19] allowed to go forward as
[3:32:22] currently proposed.
[3:32:23] In addition, it is important to
[3:32:27] note both projects are located
[3:32:28] on community plan designated
[3:32:28] park land.
[3:32:33] The manner in which Footnote
[3:32:33] seven was adopted lumped in
[3:32:37] with a general land development
[3:32:38] code update deliberately and
[3:32:42] unfairly bypassing community
[3:32:43] input denied the community
[3:32:43] the ability to negotiate any
[3:32:47] community benefits such as
[3:32:48] setting aside a portion of both
[3:32:51] sites for park space to
[3:32:52] implement the community park
[3:32:53] designation In both the general
[3:32:57] plan recreation element and
[3:32:57] the community plan in exchange
[3:33:02] for subdivision of the land for
[3:33:02] development.
[3:33:06] Why were these projects?
[3:33:07] Why are these projects not
[3:33:08] required to process community
[3:33:12] plan and general plan
[3:33:12] amendments giving
[3:33:13] the designation Given
[3:33:17] the designation of the sites
[3:33:17] for Parkland?
[3:33:18] >> Thank you for that
[3:33:18] concludes.
[3:33:19] Thank you very much.
[3:33:25] Hazel Higgins And you have time
[3:33:30] to go to by DR. Catherine Pope
[3:33:31] >> Catherine Pope There's
[3:33:31] another microphone that's lower
[3:33:35] for Come here Access.
[3:33:35] And I'm sorry I didn't see
[3:33:36] the hand of Catherine Pope.
[3:33:39] Thank you so much, DR.
[3:33:40] Catherine Pope.
[3:33:44] Thank you so much.
[3:33:44] Okay.
[3:33:48] Good afternoon, City COUNCILMAN
[3:33:49] And especially COUNCILMAN
[3:33:49] Foster.
[3:33:54] My arthritic body.
[3:33:58] 86 years young is not happy to
[3:33:59] be here with you this
[3:33:59] afternoon.
[3:34:03] I've been here many, many times
[3:34:03] before.
[3:34:08] I've served in my community for
[3:34:08] more than 60 years serving on
[3:34:13] the Southeast Development.
[3:34:13] Southeast Park and Recreation.
[3:34:18] PRESIDENT Of my pta for more
[3:34:18] than three years.
[3:34:19] PRESIDENT Of the Emerald Hills
[3:34:22] Neighborhood Council for more
[3:34:23] than three years Working with
[3:34:27] many, many.
[3:34:28] Many of my people My community
[3:34:28] people.
[3:34:32] I'd like to tell you about
[3:34:33] the Encanto task force.
[3:34:37] Many years ago.
[3:34:38] Petitioned the City Council to
[3:34:42] rezone the Encanto community.
[3:34:46] R 110 r 115 r 120 Because we
[3:34:50] liked the hillsides
[3:34:51] the openness and it all.
[3:34:55] >> The project that is planned
[3:34:56] My kitchen window looks on it
[3:35:00] My my.
[3:35:01] i have two houses on Egret
[3:35:04] Street on the hillside one
[3:35:05] house down below and a vacant
[3:35:05] property.
[3:35:06] I have done a real estate
[3:35:09] license for many years and I
[3:35:10] could have moved I could have
[3:35:13] bought property in other areas
[3:35:14] but I like the Encanto
[3:35:14] community.
[3:35:18] But this is that my bell
[3:35:19] ringing.
[3:35:19] It's the same old.
[3:35:23] La la la And it's just a
[3:35:24] different day.
[3:35:24] This is our day in court.
[3:35:29] You listen to us but do you
[3:35:29] hear us?
[3:35:32] Do you really hear us?
[3:35:33] Do you hear us?
[3:35:38] Your hoper made me CHAIRMAN Of
[3:35:43] the open space in southeast San
[3:35:43] Diego and I took it seriously.
[3:35:47] It was 5.39 acres of designated
[3:35:47] adopted open space.
[3:35:51] So okay, that is your time But
[3:35:52] thank you very much for coming
[3:35:56] And that does conclude public
[3:35:56] comment hearing Council
[3:35:57] chambers will go to those
[3:35:58] participating remotely.
[3:36:01] I started the five minute time
[3:36:01] We're here in council chambers.
[3:36:02] We currently have ten
[3:36:03] individuals with their hands
[3:36:06] raised starting with John
[3:36:06] Stump.
[3:36:07] >> If you can please unmute.
[3:36:09] Thank you very much.
[3:36:10] I completely agree with
[3:36:14] the community presenters.
[3:36:19] GOD bless the soul of our
[3:36:23] COUNCILMAN George Stevens.
[3:36:24] I urge all the community
[3:36:28] members there to vote no on
[3:36:29] the proposal to increase their
[3:36:34] water fees and taxes.
[3:36:35] You got to cut off a form and
[3:36:38] send them in.
[3:36:39] I have property.
[3:36:42] My family has property in
[3:36:43] District four and I am
[3:36:48] the secretary of property at
[3:36:52] 4425 Home Avenue.
[3:36:52] We are being mistreated.
[3:36:53] It's racial.
[3:36:57] The complete southeastern San
[3:37:02] Diego Planning Group's scheme
[3:37:07] is racially based and there's
[3:37:08] no reason that Ridge view Home
[3:37:11] Avenue and Webster should be in
[3:37:12] City Heights.
[3:37:16] I just concluded sir.
[3:37:17] >> Next is Francine Maxwell If
[3:37:21] you can please unmute Francine
[3:37:26] Maxwell and resident Thank you
[3:37:26] for the presentation.
[3:37:30] Again we are looking for bold
[3:37:30] leadership.
[3:37:31] >> We've been looking for bold
[3:37:35] leadership for quite a while
[3:37:35] and although we enjoy our
[3:37:40] district elections sometimes
[3:37:41] it's a shot in the foot because
[3:37:42] you wouldn't treat all of San
[3:37:45] Diego as our mayor says a city
[3:37:46] for all of us that way.
[3:37:49] You allow one community to be
[3:37:50] treated a certain way because
[3:37:51] it's represented by one person.
[3:37:54] So since we are a democracy and
[3:37:59] everybody represents everybody
[3:38:03] ,let's go ahead and amend and
[3:38:04] make sure that it covers
[3:38:04] the past and the present and
[3:38:08] remove footnote seven.
[3:38:09] We know that there will be some
[3:38:13] challenges when it comes to you
[3:38:14] moving to your next office and
[3:38:14] you need those donations.
[3:38:18] But the donors, the developers
[3:38:19] are very forgiving So do do
[3:38:20] the right thing for the people.
[3:38:23] Thank you so much.
[3:38:24] >> Thank you.
[3:38:24] Next is Catalina in us?
[3:38:27] If you can please unmute.
[3:38:28] Thank you.
[3:38:28] I would like to start by saying
[3:38:32] I believe you.
[3:38:33] The City Council voted for
[3:38:34] the 12th planning update under
[3:38:37] false and deceitful testimony
[3:38:38] given to you by the planning
[3:38:38] group.
[3:38:39] And with that I would like to
[3:38:42] say please repeal footnote
[3:38:42] seven halt and terminate all
[3:38:46] permits that were illegally
[3:38:47] approved by the footnote.
[3:38:47] As most have indicated,
[3:38:51] the most inexpensive way to
[3:38:51] make this community back whole
[3:38:52] is by you halting, stopping
[3:38:56] terminating all and any
[3:38:56] footnote seven approved
[3:39:00] projects under the fairness
[3:39:01] Housing Governance Code of 8890
[3:39:01] 9.5.
[3:39:06] It requires a balanced living
[3:39:06] pattern.
[3:39:07] Encanto is a food desert.
[3:39:07] Adding housing to a food desert
[3:39:11] will make it a food depression.
[3:39:12] No to the Clabber Project and
[3:39:13] no to the radio project.
[3:39:15] Thank you.
[3:39:16] Thank you.
[3:39:16] Next is Robert Campbell.
[3:39:19] If you can please unmute.
[3:39:23] >> It's not enough to simply
[3:39:24] repeal Footnote seven Any
[3:39:25] project relying on it must be
[3:39:25] stopped immediately.
[3:39:29] Make the amendment to
[3:39:29] the Planning Department's
[3:39:30] proposal to retroactively void
[3:39:31] any project relying on Footnote
[3:39:31] seven.
[3:39:34] The City Attorney's JANUARY
[3:39:34] 22nd memorandum supposedly
[3:39:37] addressed the legality of
[3:39:37] footnote seven in the San Diego
[3:39:38] Municipal Code but only
[3:39:42] partially as a footnote to on
[3:39:42] page three of that memorandum
[3:39:43] indicates conflicts with
[3:39:46] the Encanto community plan
[3:39:47] the general plan equity and
[3:39:48] environmental justice as well
[3:39:48] as issues related to rezoning
[3:39:52] without due process and
[3:39:53] violations of sequel none of
[3:39:53] which were addressed in
[3:39:56] the memo.
[3:39:56] Why?
[3:39:57] Because these issues are
[3:39:57] indefensible and the city
[3:40:01] attorney knows it.
[3:40:01] The city attorney should have
[3:40:02] released an evaluation of all
[3:40:06] issues raised including those
[3:40:06] in footnote two of the memo to
[3:40:07] the Council and to the public
[3:40:08] for review.
[3:40:11] But did not which makes
[3:40:12] the council decision an easy
[3:40:12] one today.
[3:40:16] Council Please add the language
[3:40:17] to retroactively reject
[3:40:17] projects relying on footnote
[3:40:20] seven today or you'll end up on
[3:40:20] the side of history You'll
[3:40:24] probably live to regret.
[3:40:25] >> DR. Ethel Sims If you can
[3:40:29] please unmute.
[3:40:30] DR. Ethel Sims I can't unmute
[3:40:34] for you.
[3:40:35] I will have to move on to
[3:40:38] the next caller a pop up should
[3:40:43] come up to unmute.
[3:40:43] Hello.
[3:40:49] Yes, please proceed.
[3:40:49] Hi.
[3:40:50] Let me stop the apple since I
[3:40:50] live in the other side of Inver
[3:40:51] hills.
[3:40:53] Coronavirus states and this
[3:40:56] this development has been here
[3:40:56] for 45 years.
[3:40:57] I do think that footnote seven
[3:41:01] was wrong but moving forward I
[3:41:02] do feel like housing and
[3:41:02] community type beautification
[3:41:06] projects that will enhance our
[3:41:07] community are overdue.
[3:41:11] We always get in our community
[3:41:11] Encanto and Southeast.
[3:41:12] Some high density practices or
[3:41:13] just regular homes.
[3:41:17] There are kind of like designs
[3:41:18] similar to Coronado views and
[3:41:18] upgraded with them and Hills
[3:41:20] design.
[3:41:21] So they'll be single families
[3:41:21] Two stories.
[3:41:25] No one right now is living on
[3:41:26] the property that's proposed
[3:41:26] with D.R. Horton.
[3:41:30] So we can't have views any way
[3:41:31] but we get houses up there that
[3:41:31] we can upgrade.
[3:41:32] We can actually have
[3:41:34] neighborhoods that are kind of
[3:41:35] like have more amenities and
[3:41:36] become enhanced.
[3:41:39] Yes, we've been downplayed and
[3:41:40] there have been some
[3:41:40] irregularities and unfair
[3:41:41] treatment in our communities.
[3:41:45] But these housing projects can
[3:41:45] come in and it can actually
[3:41:50] enhance us and we can have an
[3:41:50] opportunity to connect.
[3:41:51] Time has concluded.
[3:41:51] My apologies.
[3:41:54] Victoria Brousseau also
[3:41:55] the five minute timer has
[3:41:55] concluded here in council
[3:41:56] chambers.
[3:41:58] There are six callers left.
[3:41:59] No additional callers will be
[3:41:59] taken.
[3:42:03] Victoria, please proceed.
[3:42:04] >> Good afternoon Council
[3:42:04] members As the victory lap
[3:42:08] Rizzo I'm the chair of
[3:42:08] the Scripps French Planning
[3:42:09] Group but I'm here to
[3:42:09] personally support
[3:42:13] the residents of Encanto and
[3:42:13] Choice Valley Community
[3:42:14] Planning Group.
[3:42:17] Bottom line that footnote seven
[3:42:18] was not properly vetted as
[3:42:18] acknowledged by the City
[3:42:19] Planning Staff report.
[3:42:22] The process by which
[3:42:23] the footnote seven was adopted
[3:42:24] did not represent best planning
[3:42:28] practices procedurally That's a
[3:42:28] quote from the report.
[3:42:29] Therefore it should be removed
[3:42:33] and any projects depending on
[3:42:33] it should be canceled.
[3:42:34] It's time for a win for
[3:42:37] the voice of the community.
[3:42:38] Again approve the removal of
[3:42:39] Footnote seven and legislate
[3:42:39] that the current projects
[3:42:43] relying on footnote seven be
[3:42:43] removed.
[3:42:44] Honor the community plan zoning
[3:42:47] established by appropriate
[3:42:48] procedures and do not allow
[3:42:49] the procedural mistakes by
[3:42:52] the city planning Department to
[3:42:52] adversely affect the residents
[3:42:53] of Choice Valley.
[3:42:57] Thank you for your time.
[3:42:57] >> Thank you.
[3:42:58] Next is Blaire Beekman.
[3:43:02] If you can please unmute.
[3:43:03] >> Hi we're Beekman.
[3:43:07] Always in the children's
[3:43:08] waiting pool trying to wade out
[3:43:08] into the deeper waters of
[3:43:09] the subject.
[3:43:12] I thank you.
[3:43:13] I'm interested in how you know
[3:43:16] we haven't beginning concepts
[3:43:16] to really want to develop
[3:43:17] generational wealth in
[3:43:21] the future of our housing.
[3:43:21] That's an important factor.
[3:43:26] And market rate housing.
[3:43:27] City government staff seem to
[3:43:27] be talking about that I'm not
[3:43:28] sure.
[3:43:31] But can we concentrate that We
[3:43:36] have to question you know,
[3:43:36] market rate housing and
[3:43:40] consider what housing can be
[3:43:41] for people and their incomes in
[3:43:45] the area and not you know means
[3:43:45] middle income housing and lower
[3:43:46] mixed income use Ideas I talked
[3:43:50] about often.
[3:43:51] You know that can be a factor
[3:43:55] in flexibility to this process
[3:43:55] really be considering to work
[3:43:56] organically with it.
[3:44:00] Please.
[3:44:01] We're in a new era.
[3:44:01] You've got a good community
[3:44:02] here asking questions.
[3:44:05] Good luck and organic.
[3:44:06] >> Thank you.
[3:44:06] Your time has concluded.
[3:44:07] Next is Sally.
[3:44:11] Sally Small.
[3:44:12] All righty then.
[3:44:12] Thank you.
[3:44:17] I am Sally Small Animal Hills
[3:44:21] resident co-PRESIDENT Of
[3:44:22] the Animal Health Neighborhood
[3:44:22] Council.
[3:44:25] As to footnote seven it's been
[3:44:26] made very clear by everyone
[3:44:30] ahead of me that not only do we
[3:44:31] not like it, we think it was
[3:44:32] decided upon behind closed
[3:44:35] doors.
[3:44:36] Yes, it was created in a way
[3:44:39] that is not open to the public
[3:44:44] presentations and not being
[3:44:45] able to be seen by very many
[3:44:45] people.
[3:44:46] You know the cpc asked for
[3:44:50] extra time back in 2019.
[3:44:50] Now come forward.
[3:44:54] It's out there.
[3:44:55] We need to say hey, get rid of
[3:44:59] the footnote.
[3:45:00] Get rid of the projects that
[3:45:04] have already been approved void
[3:45:05] them out completely and let
[3:45:06] them try again with the lower
[3:45:10] numbers But they need to have
[3:45:10] an environmental review and we
[3:45:11] need to support the people that
[3:45:15] live in that neighborhood.
[3:45:16] And your time has concluded.
[3:45:19] My apologies Dana Give it after
[3:45:20] that is Jeff Tutor and our
[3:45:27] final speaker 7968.
[3:45:27] >> Thank you.
[3:45:28] The city's timetable to
[3:45:31] finalize repeal of footnote
[3:45:31] seven is a slap in the face to
[3:45:32] Choice Valley.
[3:45:36] The timetables being maximized
[3:45:36] allowing more projects to
[3:45:39] submit plans before footnote
[3:45:40] seven effectively disappears.
[3:45:41] The council should be
[3:45:45] expediting this.
[3:45:45] Additionally, both the Klauber
[3:45:46] and Radio Tower projects are in
[3:45:50] areas designated for future
[3:45:51] parks in the 2015 Encanto
[3:45:51] Community Plan.
[3:45:55] How can the city allow these
[3:45:56] areas to be developed with
[3:45:56] housing without requiring
[3:46:00] community and general plan
[3:46:00] amendments?
[3:46:01] This is unconscionable.
[3:46:04] The city should and the city
[3:46:05] attorney should be looking at
[3:46:05] this.
[3:46:09] I do not believe this would be
[3:46:14] allowed in any other community
[3:46:14] only in district floor.
[3:46:15] >> Thank you for your time and
[3:46:18] consideration.
[3:46:19] >> Next is Jeff Huber.
[3:46:28] If you can please unmute Thank
[3:46:29] you council members and regret
[3:46:30] that I'm not able to attend in
[3:46:33] person today due to an illness
[3:46:33] but I can't emphasize enough
[3:46:34] how important this issue is.
[3:46:37] To reinforce earlier comments
[3:46:38] neighbors for better San Diego
[3:46:39] support staff's recommendation
[3:46:42] to remove footnote seven from
[3:46:43] Table 131 support of the Land
[3:46:44] Development Code.
[3:46:47] However, if we disagree with
[3:46:48] the Planning Department and
[3:46:49] City Attorney's justifications
[3:46:52] for allowing planning projects
[3:46:53] to continue taking advantage of
[3:46:57] Footnote seven regardless of
[3:46:58] whether it was legal, Footnote
[3:46:58] seven was here skillfully and
[3:47:01] deceptively written to skirt
[3:47:02] legal requirements or would
[3:47:03] have required.
[3:47:03] They go through the Community
[3:47:06] Plan amendment process which in
[3:47:07] turn would have required and
[3:47:11] allowed the residents to of
[3:47:12] Choice Valley to negotiate a
[3:47:13] park or other community benefit
[3:47:15] in exchange for the community's
[3:47:16] adopted plan.
[3:47:20] I urge you to not only remove
[3:47:25] Footnote seven but apply that
[3:47:26] removal to other future
[3:47:26] projects and current projects.
[3:47:27] Thank you.
[3:47:30] Thank you.
[3:47:31] >> Our final speaker is 7968.
[3:47:44] If you can please unmute and
[3:47:45] thank you to the quick
[3:47:45] communities ideally coming out
[3:47:46] of two three.
[3:47:46] I don't live in your district.
[3:47:47] Good luck to all of you.
[3:47:48] I'm going from a very tight
[3:47:49] view of this and I want to say
[3:47:54] this This is a beautiful
[3:47:58] historic moment and let's open
[3:47:59] our hearts and our minds to
[3:47:59] this.
[3:48:00] We are stumbling.
[3:48:04] There are human beings together
[3:48:04] figuring out this life and we
[3:48:08] are stumbling.
[3:48:09] So open your hearts and open
[3:48:10] your minds.
[3:48:14] I don't know what the answer is
[3:48:15] going to be but I respect and
[3:48:15] love the answer.
[3:48:18] We're stumbling.
[3:48:19] We're in this together.
[3:48:22] Let's keep it one San Diego one
[3:48:26] people and one dream Win all.
[3:48:27] >> Thank you.
[3:48:28] That concludes our public
[3:48:31] comment And item 331 for
[3:48:31] the record.
[3:48:32] We did receive eight web
[3:48:36] comments in opposition and 24
[3:48:36] in favor.
[3:48:37] Those were distributed to
[3:48:37] the council.
[3:48:41] Thank you.
[3:48:41] >> All right, you city clerk
[3:48:42] Thank you everybody that showed
[3:48:45] up today and participated.
[3:48:46] A special things for me as
[3:48:49] the council PRESIDENT For
[3:48:50] the respectful way that you
[3:48:51] conducted yourselves, you made
[3:48:51] it very clear about your
[3:48:55] passion on this issue but you
[3:48:56] allowed us to move quickly
[3:48:56] through in a fit not quickly,
[3:49:00] efficiently you through that
[3:49:01] And I appreciate those people
[3:49:01] that took the time to call in
[3:49:05] as well.
[3:49:06] So we'll now go to our council
[3:49:06] members for questions and
[3:49:09] comments and entertain a motion
[3:49:09] and we'll start with Council
[3:49:10] member Foster.
[3:49:14] >> Yes, Thank you Council
[3:49:15] PRESIDENT And thank you staff
[3:49:19] for the presentation.
[3:49:20] Also thank you to all
[3:49:20] the district four residents who
[3:49:24] came out today and provided
[3:49:24] public comment on this matter.
[3:49:25] As I have indicated on several
[3:49:29] occasions, I strongly support a
[3:49:30] balanced housing approach
[3:49:34] creating pathways to
[3:49:34] homeownership is critical to
[3:49:35] the sustainability of District
[3:49:38] four and we must continue to
[3:49:39] bring forward options and
[3:49:39] pathways for residents to build
[3:49:43] generational wealth through
[3:49:43] homeownership.
[3:49:44] I have stood by my community
[3:49:45] when it comes to fighting
[3:49:48] the concentration of poverty
[3:49:49] and the hundreds of deed
[3:49:49] restricted units.
[3:49:50] District four continues to
[3:49:53] receive.
[3:49:57] >> I would also like to again
[3:49:57] thank all the District four
[3:49:58] residents and community groups
[3:50:02] as they play a key role in
[3:50:03] the development, growth and
[3:50:03] sustainability of the district.
[3:50:06] And I will always encourage
[3:50:07] planners, developers and city
[3:50:11] staff to engage with our
[3:50:12] community when land use policy
[3:50:13] changes and developments are
[3:50:16] taking place.
[3:50:17] I want to thank the City
[3:50:17] planning staff for presenting
[3:50:21] information concerning this
[3:50:22] land use designation to
[3:50:22] the community and receiving
[3:50:26] their feedback.
[3:50:27] As I have previously previously
[3:50:28] said on this Dyess the lack of
[3:50:32] transparent and see and
[3:50:32] engagement in policy making
[3:50:33] affecting neighborhoods
[3:50:36] especially those historically
[3:50:37] discriminated against like
[3:50:37] District four is unacceptable
[3:50:41] And I continue to share my
[3:50:42] community's concern that
[3:50:43] the process or lack thereof
[3:50:46] regarding footnote seven was
[3:50:47] not transparent and inclusive.
[3:50:51] Also, as indicated by
[3:50:51] the city's current planning
[3:50:52] director Footnote seven was
[3:50:55] that was not done in accordance
[3:50:56] with city policies and best
[3:50:56] practices.
[3:51:00] Hence we are here today.
[3:51:01] Throughout this discussion
[3:51:05] there have been references to
[3:51:06] furthering fair housing.
[3:51:10] >> To be clear, large minimum
[3:51:11] lots do not further fair
[3:51:12] housing in our discriminatory
[3:51:15] as they were designed to keep
[3:51:15] specific individuals from
[3:51:19] moving into a community.
[3:51:20] >> These are policies that we
[3:51:21] must address as they continue
[3:51:25] to be harmful and further
[3:51:25] the economic divide which
[3:51:26] directly impacts quality of
[3:51:30] life and opportunity.
[3:51:34] I recently read a 2024 San
[3:51:34] Diego Law Review article
[3:51:35] Cutting zoning down to size
[3:51:39] revamp due to the legal
[3:51:40] vulnerability of urban minimum
[3:51:44] minimum size lot sizes where
[3:51:44] studies consistently highlight
[3:51:47] how these types of rules hurt
[3:51:48] affordability promote exclusion
[3:51:53] and waste land.
[3:51:54] Here it was indicated that
[3:51:55] large bean in lot size rules
[3:51:58] limit single family home
[3:51:58] ownership, drive up housing
[3:52:03] costs and deepen inequality by
[3:52:03] prioritizing rental focused
[3:52:08] multifamily developments.
[3:52:08] Houston, Texas provided a
[3:52:09] compelling example After
[3:52:13] reducing large minimum lot
[3:52:14] sizes in 1998, the city saw a
[3:52:14] surge in market driven
[3:52:18] investment that revitalized
[3:52:19] aging housing stock, increased
[3:52:22] generational wealth and
[3:52:23] strengthened its tax base.
[3:52:23] Research also reveals that
[3:52:27] the adoption of large minimum
[3:52:28] lot size rules in many cities
[3:52:32] outside the American South
[3:52:32] coincided with the arrival of
[3:52:33] black Americans during
[3:52:37] the second Great Migration and
[3:52:37] the push for school
[3:52:38] desegregation.
[3:52:42] This timing suggest that large
[3:52:43] median lot sizes were not only
[3:52:46] driven by fiscal considerations
[3:52:46] but also served exclusionary,
[3:52:51] racially motivated purposes.
[3:52:52] Frankly, frankly large minimum
[3:52:56] lot sizes are outdated and
[3:52:57] harmful serving as barriers to
[3:52:57] affordability while
[3:53:01] perpetuating exclusion and
[3:53:01] inequality.
[3:53:06] And to be clear I think it is
[3:53:07] we need to know and make sure
[3:53:10] we understand the history of
[3:53:10] District four.
[3:53:11] My family was one of the first
[3:53:14] black black families to move to
[3:53:15] the community and dealt with
[3:53:19] the discrimination firsthand.
[3:53:20] My grandfather built
[3:53:24] the Encanto baseball fields as
[3:53:25] a city would not do it.
[3:53:29] It is clear we need zoning
[3:53:30] reforms that promote equitable
[3:53:30] homeownership.
[3:53:34] >> We must champions zoning
[3:53:35] reforms that prioritize for
[3:53:36] sale homes and promote
[3:53:39] equitable access to
[3:53:40] homeownership citywide making
[3:53:44] our city a place where more
[3:53:44] residents can thrive.
[3:53:48] With that it is ever so
[3:53:49] critical that we support
[3:53:49] balanced for sale housing
[3:53:53] options in district four to
[3:53:54] ensure our sustainability while
[3:53:58] ensuring we preserve community
[3:53:58] character.
[3:53:59] Having said that, we also we
[3:54:03] have also received countless
[3:54:03] public comment from communities
[3:54:07] citywide regarding the city's
[3:54:08] adu density bonus program.
[3:54:12] These provisions go way beyond
[3:54:13] state regulations and are doing
[3:54:17] more harm than good.
[3:54:17] >> Thank you.
[3:54:21] As I spent the past weekend
[3:54:22] celebrating the life and legacy
[3:54:26] of Reverend DR. Martin Luther
[3:54:27] King Jr, I took time to drive
[3:54:31] in cancer and I must say that I
[3:54:32] agree with my community.
[3:54:33] The current adu density bonus
[3:54:37] program as implemented is
[3:54:37] destroying community character
[3:54:38] impacting for sale
[3:54:42] opportunities and potentially
[3:54:42] creating unsafe conditions.
[3:54:46] We must pauses program and
[3:54:46] address all unintended
[3:54:49] consequences and negative
[3:54:50] impacts that are affecting
[3:54:55] communities citywide.
[3:54:56] When I conclude I want to
[3:55:00] indicate that I am in support
[3:55:01] of staff's recommendation
[3:55:01] before us today.
[3:55:05] I will say again we must
[3:55:06] continue to support our working
[3:55:06] families.
[3:55:10] Our skilled and trained
[3:55:10] workforce teachers, nurses,
[3:55:15] firefighters, police officers,
[3:55:15] professionals, mothers,
[3:55:20] fathers, millennials and
[3:55:20] the like who seek to build
[3:55:21] generational wealth and have an
[3:55:25] opportunity tunity to buy, live
[3:55:26] and raise their families in
[3:55:30] District four and citywide.
[3:55:34] >> >> With that I move
[3:55:39] the following approves Das
[3:55:39] recommendation to remove
[3:55:40] the footnote seven from
[3:55:44] the Land Development code and
[3:55:45] to request that city staff
[3:55:49] return to City Council within
[3:55:50] 60 days with an action item to
[3:55:50] remove the city's 82 density
[3:55:54] bonus program so that the 82
[3:55:55] program is consistent with
[3:55:58] the state mandated adu
[3:55:59] regulations for single family
[3:55:59] zoned parcels.
[3:56:06] >> I would like to.
[3:56:07] >> I would like to thank my
[3:56:11] fellow council members and ask
[3:56:12] that you stand with me in doing
[3:56:13] what is right for our
[3:56:15] communities.
[3:56:16] >> And Council PRESIDENT This
[3:56:20] concludes my comments.
[3:56:21] >> All right.
[3:56:21] Thank you, sir.
[3:56:25] We'll get that up on the screen
[3:56:29] so everybody understands that.
[3:56:30] And we'll go next to council
[3:56:34] member Campo.
[3:56:35] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[3:56:36] I want to thank everyone who
[3:56:39] came to the meeting.
[3:56:40] Well, first the planning
[3:56:43] commission then all your
[3:56:44] community group meetings then
[3:56:49] to State of the City public
[3:56:49] comment and then today because
[3:56:54] this is a lot of time, effort,
[3:56:54] money out of your pocket that
[3:56:57] you're not working and having
[3:56:58] to find daycare or childcare.
[3:57:02] You've put exceptional effort
[3:57:03] into community concern As I'm
[3:57:07] looking at Councilmember
[3:57:08] Foster's motion approving an
[3:57:08] ordinance to get rid of
[3:57:13] footnotes seven that is clearly
[3:57:14] important and just on its own
[3:57:18] because it's clear that when it
[3:57:19] was put in it was not done
[3:57:19] the right way.
[3:57:22] Planning staff has said that
[3:57:23] that is at the core of why they
[3:57:23] want to get rid of it that it
[3:57:27] was not done the right way.
[3:57:28] That that's undeniably clear.
[3:57:32] The request to return to city
[3:57:33] staff for 60 days with an
[3:57:34] action item to the 80 density
[3:57:34] bonus program.
[3:57:37] I know that my constituents
[3:57:37] have serious serious concerns
[3:57:38] about how that's applied
[3:57:41] throughout the city.
[3:57:41] Councilmember Foster has
[3:57:42] described how this impacts
[3:57:46] the folks here.
[3:57:47] And I'll just say for the folks
[3:57:47] who are at home who can't see
[3:57:51] what we can see down here,
[3:57:56] there are a lot of red eyes and
[3:57:56] wrinkled foreheads And folks
[3:58:01] who are really, really anxious
[3:58:01] for the state of their
[3:58:05] community here angry as well.
[3:58:10] Yes.
[3:58:10] I think that these two
[3:58:15] components right here while
[3:58:15] obviously we also heard folks
[3:58:20] say that a pause on
[3:58:21] the projects is is an ultimate
[3:58:24] goal.
[3:58:25] I think that it is really
[3:58:29] important to understand what
[3:58:29] the city staff said about what
[3:58:33] that means to ask for that
[3:58:38] particular amendment.
[3:58:39] I have to ask our staff these
[3:58:42] items that are at the Club for
[3:58:43] Development and the Radio Tower
[3:58:47] those things those those things
[3:58:48] are discretionary items that
[3:58:52] are not just sailing through
[3:58:53] because we're not mentioning
[3:58:54] them specifically today.
[3:58:57] They do have to come back for
[3:58:58] different votes, don't they?
[3:58:58] That is correct.
[3:59:01] Those items will be separately
[3:59:02] noticed.
[3:59:06] And one of them was heard at
[3:59:06] this council, the Klauber
[3:59:09] appeal and that appeal was
[3:59:10] granted.
[3:59:10] I do anticipate that that item
[3:59:14] will return to this council for
[3:59:15] a decision on the subdivision.
[3:59:16] The Council retains approval
[3:59:19] authority over that subdivision
[3:59:20] and as part of that process
[3:59:23] required findings are required
[3:59:24] under state and local law for
[3:59:28] subdivisions for the D.R.
[3:59:29] Horton Radio Tower Project.
[3:59:29] That item is a process for
[3:59:33] subdivision approval process
[3:59:34] with an appeal right of appeal
[3:59:34] to the city council.
[3:59:35] All right.
[3:59:39] So both of those have to come
[3:59:39] to city council for a vote on
[3:59:40] specific items right there.
[3:59:40] That is correct.
[3:59:43] Okay.
[3:59:48] So what I think you mentioned
[3:59:49] the word notice, right?
[3:59:53] I think that it's important to
[3:59:58] it's important to keep in mind
[3:59:58] that this right here is
[4:00:03] achieving I think it sounds to
[4:00:04] me like two of the three things
[4:00:07] that folks in the chambers want
[4:00:08] And there's one thing left to
[4:00:09] be decided at two separate
[4:00:11] votes because they are two
[4:00:12] different concepts that will
[4:00:13] get deserved attention and look
[4:00:17] at an analysis.
[4:00:17] And and I think that that's
[4:00:18] important for everyone here to
[4:00:21] know as they leave here today
[4:00:26] that that aspect is not baked
[4:00:26] in.
[4:00:30] But I really think that
[4:00:31] Councilmember Foster's motion
[4:00:36] here is a substantial step
[4:00:37] forward towards protecting
[4:00:37] the community of Encanto
[4:00:40] protecting communities in my
[4:00:41] district with especially with
[4:00:41] that second part.
[4:00:45] And I really do want to ask
[4:00:45] about the concept of footnote.
[4:00:46] I know you brought this up at
[4:00:49] Planning Commission at what has
[4:00:50] there been a substantial review
[4:00:54] for any other types of
[4:00:55] footnotes that say in any
[4:00:59] particular community a Zoning
[4:01:00] that is on one map is actually
[4:01:03] not that because that is
[4:01:03] the very most disappointing
[4:01:08] part that such a footnote could
[4:01:09] ever get through.
[4:01:09] Has your staff looked for any
[4:01:10] more of those footnotes that
[4:01:13] actually say just kidding?
[4:01:14] >> rs one two means rs one
[4:01:18] seven.
[4:01:19] >> We have reviewed the land
[4:01:22] development code and we have
[4:01:23] not identified any other
[4:01:23] instances.
[4:01:23] Okay.
[4:01:27] I will.
[4:01:32] >> Besides the two projects on
[4:01:32] Klauber and Radio Tower
[4:01:36] anywhere else in the city.
[4:01:37] What I'm trying to say doesn't
[4:01:38] seem to be that there's any
[4:01:39] other projects relying on
[4:01:44] footnotes to deal with lot size
[4:01:45] density requirements that
[4:01:48] differentiates based on rs one
[4:01:49] whatever rs one whatever.
[4:01:53] >> I don't want to represent to
[4:01:54] you the entirety of the land
[4:01:55] development code but with
[4:01:55] respect to singling out a
[4:01:58] particular community I do not
[4:01:58] believe any additional exist.
[4:01:59] Okay.
[4:02:03] We we really need to make sure
[4:02:03] that that that is the thing is
[4:02:07] that singled out are the two
[4:02:08] key words that people are
[4:02:09] disappointed about.
[4:02:11] And so I think because this
[4:02:12] motion restores a a good amount
[4:02:17] of justice to what's going on
[4:02:17] here, I'm going to second
[4:02:18] the motion from Councilmember
[4:02:21] Foster and I appreciate that.
[4:02:22] So thank you for doing
[4:02:25] the analysis on that.
[4:02:26] Councilmember Foster
[4:02:27] Particularly that second item
[4:02:31] and I'll leave it at that for
[4:02:31] now.
[4:02:31] Thank you.
[4:02:36] We have a motion by Council
[4:02:36] member Foster, a second by
[4:02:37] Councilmember Campo and will go
[4:02:40] to the city attorney.
[4:02:40] Thank you Council PRESIDENT,
[4:02:41] for the clarification of that
[4:02:45] council.
[4:02:46] The item before you today was a
[4:02:46] notice to the public as a
[4:02:50] potential repeal of Footnote
[4:02:50] seven.
[4:02:51] It was not noticed for a few
[4:02:55] bonus issues or anything else.
[4:02:56] The Council certainly can take
[4:03:00] action on those in the future.
[4:03:00] It would just have to be
[4:03:01] noticed for a separate hearing.
[4:03:05] Therefore we recommend that
[4:03:05] the second part of the motion
[4:03:06] be removed.
[4:03:10] Other alternatives could be.
[4:03:11] You can certainly ask
[4:03:14] the mayor's office outside
[4:03:14] the motion to bring back which
[4:03:19] you would like either to
[4:03:20] council or to committee.
[4:03:20] It's just because of the state
[4:03:24] law noticing require ments we
[4:03:25] recommend it not be part of
[4:03:29] the actual motion.
[4:03:34] >> I appreciate the city
[4:03:34] attorney's position.
[4:03:38] However I find it very
[4:03:39] problematic.
[4:03:39] >> We are here.
[4:03:43] We are here discussing footnote
[4:03:44] seven which I think we have
[4:03:48] clearly indicated that
[4:03:49] the process that was followed
[4:03:53] it was okay.
[4:03:54] >> And so I take issue and I
[4:03:58] will I'm I'm say that's how we
[4:04:02] got put into place your right
[4:04:03] let me finish my comments.
[4:04:04] If it was acceptable as we move
[4:04:07] forward as we moved forward and
[4:04:12] we have two projects in India
[4:04:12] application process which I
[4:04:13] understand we do have
[4:04:17] opportunities to review those
[4:04:18] on their own but there's a
[4:04:22] motion on the floor and I would
[4:04:22] request that we call further
[4:04:23] question or have some
[4:04:26] additional dialog.
[4:04:27] And that's where I stand on
[4:04:36] this issue right now.
[4:04:37] >> So to clarify for the value
[4:04:41] the audience I'm supportive of
[4:04:41] the motion.
[4:04:46] I like to manage expectations.
[4:04:46] We don't know what action will
[4:04:47] be brought forward.
[4:04:50] This is not binding on
[4:04:51] the Council with due respect to
[4:04:55] my colleague but it is a way to
[4:04:56] assert a feeling by the Council
[4:05:00] in a stronger way than simply
[4:05:01] asking staff Would you please
[4:05:07] do this?
[4:05:07] Well we'll work with staff in
[4:05:12] terms of your timelines to do
[4:05:12] whatever analysis has to be
[4:05:17] done in whatever scale or scope
[4:05:18] this action requires.
[4:05:21] I have to admit I don't know
[4:05:22] what moving the City density
[4:05:26] bonus program to can be
[4:05:27] consistent with the state's adu
[4:05:31] regulations and the state's adu
[4:05:35] bonus density bonus I think is
[4:05:36] what I'm hearing from my
[4:05:37] colleague if I understand that
[4:05:37] correctly.
[4:05:41] So it is a more structured way
[4:05:46] for the Council to assert our
[4:05:47] legislative authority.
[4:05:47] I think the city Attorney has
[4:05:48] given us good guidance for us
[4:05:50] to hear and then for us to
[4:05:55] decide what we want to do.
[4:05:56] But with that I will go to
[4:06:00] council Bloomberg.
[4:06:01] Thank you and thank you to
[4:06:05] everyone who commented today.
[4:06:06] Thank you for this discussion.
[4:06:06] Thank you to Victoria who
[4:06:10] called in from Scripps Ranch
[4:06:11] Planning Group in Scripps Ranch
[4:06:11] has quite a few issues with
[4:06:15] the bonus edu program as well.
[4:06:16] I know we're not noted to
[4:06:16] discuss that today so I won't
[4:06:19] go further than that but my
[4:06:19] community also has issues with
[4:06:20] this program as well so I'm
[4:06:21] going to be supportive of
[4:06:24] the motion as well.
[4:06:25] I understand the concern it
[4:06:26] wasn't noticed but this is
[4:06:26] merely a request We're not
[4:06:29] amending the law today.
[4:06:30] So I see that we can make this
[4:06:34] request in the motion and of
[4:06:35] course I want to hear more
[4:06:35] about the discussion.
[4:06:36] I'm not committing my vote
[4:06:36] either way.
[4:06:37] I never do.
[4:06:38] I had a discussion.
[4:06:39] I also want to know more about
[4:06:43] new state laws that I know are
[4:06:44] coming down with mandates that
[4:06:44] are affecting us.
[4:06:45] So that's what I'd love to
[4:06:46] learn more about as we do this
[4:06:47] And I think Councilmember
[4:06:47] Foster for bringing this
[4:06:51] forward.
[4:06:52] >> We'll go next to
[4:06:53] Councilmember Campbell.
[4:06:53] Thank you very much.
[4:06:57] And thanks to my colleagues And
[4:06:57] thank you Councilmember Foster.
[4:07:02] I have ever since the density
[4:07:02] bonus program in the city was
[4:07:06] passed which far out does
[4:07:07] the state program about use?
[4:07:12] I my constituents have been so
[4:07:16] upset and the material ization
[4:07:17] of small little box on top of
[4:07:18] small little box on top of
[4:07:21] small little bugs called them
[4:07:25] to use and one on one one
[4:07:26] affordable one not and you can
[4:07:30] double your money and it's just
[4:07:31] we're having a terrible time in
[4:07:32] district two with this and I
[4:07:35] totally agree that this has got
[4:07:36] to be reviewed and I, I agree
[4:07:40] with my colleague Von Wilpert
[4:07:40] who's an excellent attorney and
[4:07:45] also here well, we're lucky We
[4:07:46] have excellent attorneys all
[4:07:50] around us here And I agree this
[4:07:51] is only a request So I think it
[4:07:55] would pass the muster And then
[4:07:59] when it comes back in 60 days
[4:07:59] let's hope everybody knows
[4:08:00] about it ahead of time, thinks
[4:08:04] about it, reads it and digests
[4:08:04] it because this is very, very
[4:08:08] important about keeping
[4:08:09] the quality of our
[4:08:10] neighborhoods in our city.
[4:08:13] So thank you very much.
[4:08:13] >> Okay.
[4:08:18] We're almost there.
[4:08:18] Come on.
[4:08:18] We'll go next to Councilmember
[4:08:18] Whitburn.
[4:08:19] Council PRESIDENT Just one
[4:08:19] request I would request that we
[4:08:20] bifurcate the motion if we
[4:08:25] could please.
[4:08:26] We have a motion on the floor.
[4:08:26] You'd have to ask the makers of
[4:08:27] the motion So I'm not willing
[4:08:32] to bifurcate.
[4:08:32] Come on.
[4:08:33] We're almost there.
[4:08:37] We're almost there.
[4:08:37] Okay.
[4:08:42] Councilmember Lee Oh, excuse
[4:08:42] me.
[4:08:43] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[4:08:44] Thank yous PRESIDENT Thank you
[4:08:47] for the presentation today on
[4:08:47] this item.
[4:08:48] We've certainly heard a lot
[4:08:49] about it in the last couple of
[4:08:49] months.
[4:08:51] I want to thank the planning
[4:08:51] Department for good due
[4:08:52] diligence in amending the land
[4:08:56] development code when this
[4:08:57] issue was brought up to
[4:08:57] the city's attention as those
[4:09:01] in the public might be able to
[4:09:01] tell.
[4:09:02] I know some requested that this
[4:09:03] happen as quickly as possible
[4:09:05] and our planning department
[4:09:06] actually does quite a lot And I
[4:09:07] think when you look at
[4:09:07] the substance of the item it's
[4:09:11] not just as simple as removing
[4:09:11] a footnote.
[4:09:12] You've done some due diligence
[4:09:15] in terms of checking with each
[4:09:16] cd, I believe and our relevant
[4:09:19] state officials to ensure that
[4:09:20] this will comply moving forward
[4:09:21] with the changes that
[4:09:21] the planning.
[4:09:24] That was a significant portion
[4:09:25] of the backup material.
[4:09:25] >> So I just wanted to confirm
[4:09:29] that Once again we had
[4:09:30] originally conferred with each
[4:09:33] city and then our our city
[4:09:34] attorney colleagues did confirm
[4:09:38] to us separately that we would
[4:09:39] be consistent generally
[4:09:43] speaking with based on
[4:09:44] the advice from the city
[4:09:45] attorney's office that we were
[4:09:47] able to move forward with
[4:09:48] the removal of the amendment.
[4:09:49] So we did later withdraw
[4:09:52] the requests from city.
[4:09:53] Understood.
[4:09:53] Okay.
[4:09:54] Thank you for clarifying that
[4:09:54] as well.
[4:09:57] I do And I also think
[4:09:58] the public commenters
[4:09:59] specifically all the residents
[4:09:59] of Encanto for your advocacy to
[4:10:03] correct this decision a
[4:10:03] decision that at the time of
[4:10:04] its adoption was frankly not
[4:10:07] representative of the best
[4:10:08] planning or land use practices.
[4:10:09] >> You've heard the city
[4:10:11] acknowledge that I think I too
[4:10:12] like you have been asking how
[4:10:13] that came out about to be.
[4:10:16] But I also can tell you that
[4:10:17] the folks in planning today are
[4:10:18] not the ones that were here at
[4:10:18] that time.
[4:10:19] And so as much as as as that
[4:10:22] might be something that we all
[4:10:22] want understanding of, I think
[4:10:23] how we move forward is probably
[4:10:27] just as important as well.
[4:10:27] I'm happy to support
[4:10:28] the removal of Footnote seven
[4:10:32] to restore the 20,000 square
[4:10:32] foot minimum lot size that
[4:10:33] matches the densities
[4:10:34] designated in the Canton
[4:10:36] neighborhoods Community plan
[4:10:37] area and which is also
[4:10:38] consistent with the application
[4:10:41] of development regulations
[4:10:42] citywide.
[4:10:42] I will note I want to thank
[4:10:43] Councilmember Foster for
[4:10:46] talking about just the issue of
[4:10:46] minimum lot size in general.
[4:10:51] I think I think for this
[4:10:51] footnote the most egregious
[4:10:52] component of it is what some of
[4:10:56] you have pointed out.
[4:10:56] It is the specificity in which
[4:11:01] it was applied only to specific
[4:11:03] neighborhoods even despite
[4:11:04] the rs 1-2 zoning being used in
[4:11:05] other neighborhoods throughout
[4:11:09] the city.
[4:11:10] Now if this was an attempt to
[4:11:10] apply that across the city we
[4:11:14] might still have the same
[4:11:14] arguments of whether that's
[4:11:15] appropriate.
[4:11:15] But I would I would argue that
[4:11:16] is actually a much more
[4:11:19] relevant way to approach a
[4:11:19] significant zoning change here
[4:11:23] with a zoning designation like
[4:11:24] this as opposed to doing it
[4:11:24] with within one community As
[4:11:25] many folks probably know in
[4:11:29] this room I have been a strong
[4:11:29] advocate for housing.
[4:11:30] I would not like to see that go
[4:11:33] away but also would like to see
[4:11:34] that fairly applied to high and
[4:11:34] highest resource areas
[4:11:35] throughout the city including
[4:11:37] within my own community as
[4:11:38] opposed to focused in
[4:11:38] communities especially that
[4:11:42] have been red line in the past
[4:11:47] I appreciate that but I'll also
[4:11:47] want to address the second item
[4:11:52] that is attached here to
[4:11:53] the motion at hand.
[4:11:53] I also heard from the city
[4:11:57] attorney I will admit when I
[4:11:58] first saw it I also was a
[4:11:59] little bit concerned about
[4:11:59] where it fell within our notice
[4:12:02] guidelines.
[4:12:02] But you understand that
[4:12:03] the wording here is
[4:12:08] specifically that a request is
[4:12:08] being made to staff lessee I
[4:12:11] don't know if you could clarify
[4:12:12] in your opinion if that allows
[4:12:16] us some leeway if there are
[4:12:17] concerns about ramifications
[4:12:17] moving forward, I would at
[4:12:18] least like to know to
[4:12:19] the public what those
[4:12:24] ramifications might look like.
[4:12:28] The issue is that the second
[4:12:29] part of the motion includes an
[4:12:30] entirely different topic that
[4:12:34] wasn't in front of the council
[4:12:34] today.
[4:12:35] So I would be remiss if I did
[4:12:35] not advise you that under
[4:12:38] the Brown Act all that's in
[4:12:38] front of you is the footnote
[4:12:39] seven.
[4:12:39] However, this Council can
[4:12:41] certainly bring back anything
[4:12:47] else that it would like.
[4:12:47] Okay.
[4:12:48] Thank you for the guidance.
[4:12:52] Clear as clear water I guess in
[4:12:52] this particular case But but
[4:12:53] that is that is the guidance
[4:12:54] that I think is appropriate to
[4:12:56] given if we didn't hear that, I
[4:12:57] think that would that would be
[4:12:57] remiss if you do not provide it
[4:13:01] to us if we're going to talk
[4:13:02] about the 80 density bonus
[4:13:06] program as a whole as well of
[4:13:07] course Chair the Land Use and
[4:13:08] housing committee for the city,
[4:13:10] I will note that I think
[4:13:10] there's been many discussions
[4:13:11] whether it's behind the scenes
[4:13:12] on this council certainly
[4:13:14] hearing from the public that
[4:13:15] the density program bonus
[4:13:16] program has had some
[4:13:20] significant issues and folks
[4:13:20] have shared several egregious
[4:13:21] examples of the application of
[4:13:25] that.
[4:13:26] I will only fairly note to you
[4:13:26] that 80 density bonus program
[4:13:29] has also been used and not just
[4:13:30] in District four but in areas
[4:13:30] throughout the city to add
[4:13:34] additional housing and not
[4:13:34] always in the egregious manner
[4:13:35] that folks have seen.
[4:13:39] I can probably agree with you
[4:13:39] that seeing a 40 unit building
[4:13:43] pop up in a single family
[4:13:44] parcel right next to you is
[4:13:45] alarming for a million reasons
[4:13:49] and that's not going to be
[4:13:50] the same and we should not
[4:13:51] compare it as the same as when
[4:13:54] it is applied in other areas in
[4:13:54] much smaller capacities That
[4:13:55] MAY still not be okay with
[4:13:58] folks Some folks in this room
[4:13:59] but that do add housing to our
[4:13:59] stock.
[4:14:03] One of the issues that has been
[4:14:04] brought up about the program in
[4:14:05] the past and reported on by
[4:14:07] the media is whether it's
[4:14:07] actually delivering the very
[4:14:08] low and low income affordable
[4:14:12] housing opportunities that we'd
[4:14:13] like to see And that has not
[4:14:13] necessarily been the case in
[4:14:17] the program but it has
[4:14:17] delivered moderate income
[4:14:18] housing in a city where when
[4:14:22] you look at the reports that we
[4:14:23] take a look at year after year
[4:14:24] we often don't get moderate
[4:14:27] income housing in any
[4:14:28] productive way unless it just
[4:14:29] naturally happens.
[4:14:31] And so I will say that there
[4:14:32] has been some value to that
[4:14:33] program that we should not
[4:14:33] deny.
[4:14:36] At the same time as we're
[4:14:37] considering the detriments to
[4:14:37] it as well.
[4:14:41] So with that said, I would I
[4:14:42] would not personally jump
[4:14:43] straight to the idea of
[4:14:46] removing the program entirely
[4:14:47] because we haven't even
[4:14:48] conducted I believe a review of
[4:14:51] the program and its function at
[4:14:52] least since my time here on
[4:14:55] the Council and I think it
[4:14:56] deserves that review and
[4:15:00] the potential for any revisions
[4:15:01] that could be made moving
[4:15:01] forward.
[4:15:03] I'll take my additional three
[4:15:04] minutes but in this particular
[4:15:05] case I do understand that
[4:15:05] Councilmember Foster is simply
[4:15:08] making the request that staff
[4:15:09] return to this as a potential
[4:15:10] item that we might discuss at a
[4:15:14] council and that I will respect
[4:15:14] given the magnitude of this
[4:15:17] overall conversation.
[4:15:18] I just wanted to stay very
[4:15:19] clear for the record My
[4:15:23] positioning when it comes to
[4:15:23] how we approach housing
[4:15:24] decisions and that even for
[4:15:24] something like the density
[4:15:28] bonus program I'm very happy to
[4:15:28] have that discussion.
[4:15:29] But again I would not jump to
[4:15:32] simply removing it without
[4:15:33] understanding the full
[4:15:33] ramifications of what that
[4:15:34] looks like.
[4:15:34] So with that said I will
[4:15:38] conclude my time.
[4:15:38] Thank you to Councilmember
[4:15:39] Foster for your work on
[4:15:39] the same.
[4:15:40] All right.
[4:15:42] Councilmember Moreno, thank you
[4:15:43] for the presentation and thank
[4:15:46] you to all the members that
[4:15:47] came out today.
[4:15:47] I just want to be very clear
[4:15:52] that I absolutely do support
[4:15:52] the motion on the floor but I
[4:15:57] also want to be clear about
[4:15:58] the fact that I'm going to have
[4:16:01] to consider any any changes to
[4:16:02] the adu program separately from
[4:16:03] the action before us today.
[4:16:04] But I will be supporting
[4:16:05] the motion on the floor.
[4:16:10] >> Thank you.
[4:16:11] We'll go back to Council member
[4:16:11] Whipper.
[4:16:14] Thank you very much.
[4:16:14] Council PRESIDENT I strongly
[4:16:18] support the first part of
[4:16:21] the motion removing Footnote
[4:16:22] seven I am very hesitant to
[4:16:26] support a part of the motion
[4:16:26] that the city Attorney has
[4:16:27] specifically advised the City
[4:16:31] Council violates the Brown Act.
[4:16:36] I would ask the city Attorney
[4:16:36] and one of the reasons that I
[4:16:41] hesitate is because if
[4:16:41] the second part of the motion
[4:16:42] is found to violate the Brown
[4:16:45] Act and is thrown out, that
[4:16:46] would invalidate the entire
[4:16:46] motion And I don't think that's
[4:16:50] what anybody here wants to see.
[4:16:51] So let me ask the city attorney
[4:16:55] if the second part of this
[4:16:56] motion were found to be in
[4:16:59] violation of the Brown Act,
[4:16:59] would it in fact invalidate
[4:17:00] the entire motion or how would
[4:17:04] that be handled?
[4:17:09] >> >> I can't completely answer
[4:17:10] that question because that's
[4:17:11] something that would be up to a
[4:17:14] court to decide if someone
[4:17:15] filed a lawsuit alleging a
[4:17:19] Brown Act violation, then it
[4:17:24] would be possible that
[4:17:24] the court could invalidate
[4:17:25] the whole motion.
[4:17:29] But I can't speak to that.
[4:17:30] >> I'm sorry.
[4:17:30] Okay.
[4:17:34] I think it would be safer for
[4:17:35] everybody here to bifurcate
[4:17:35] the motion and lock in
[4:17:39] the repeal of footnotes seven
[4:17:40] and deal with the second part
[4:17:43] of the motion separately.
[4:17:44] But I will support the motion
[4:17:49] and if people want to take
[4:17:53] their chances okay,
[4:17:54] Councilmember Gilbert, thank
[4:17:58] you very much.
[4:17:59] A couple of things to add.
[4:18:02] One is it showed we could if
[4:18:03] there were a Brown Act
[4:18:04] violation allegation we could
[4:18:04] simply cure the motion.
[4:18:05] Correct.
[4:18:07] Just hear it again.
[4:18:09] We just have to go to court to
[4:18:11] be cured.
[4:18:12] >> The Brown Act as you know,
[4:18:16] has some requirements that
[4:18:21] someone before they do ask
[4:18:22] the city to cure the violation.
[4:18:23] That's not true for every
[4:18:26] single violation of the Brown
[4:18:27] Act.
[4:18:28] So I would need to double check
[4:18:28] on that.
[4:18:32] But to answer your question in
[4:18:32] part yes, generally the council
[4:18:36] would need to have an
[4:18:37] opportunity to cure that before
[4:18:37] a lawsuit could be filed.
[4:18:37] Okay.
[4:18:41] Thank you and I appreciate it.
[4:18:42] And I understand not having all
[4:18:42] the answers on the spot
[4:18:46] Attorneys get better all
[4:18:46] the time.
[4:18:47] I just wanted to also add more
[4:18:50] context to my request in terms
[4:18:51] of when we come back to have a
[4:18:55] discussion again in District
[4:18:56] five actually as far as I
[4:18:56] understand it, based on last
[4:19:01] year's report accepted the most
[4:19:01] infill density the second most
[4:19:05] of any district in the city
[4:19:05] some short of District three we
[4:19:06] accepted thousands of housing
[4:19:12] units in our district in
[4:19:12] pre-independence ghettos and
[4:19:13] Castle Mountain.
[4:19:14] Our script for Clean Plan Group
[4:19:14] is actually not against a new
[4:19:15] project going forward in
[4:19:16] Rasouli So our district does
[4:19:17] want to accept new housing for
[4:19:19] young families, for
[4:19:20] professionals we are we are all
[4:19:20] about that.
[4:19:21] Our concerns are about when
[4:19:24] things aren't planned.
[4:19:25] We can't have a 40 unit
[4:19:25] apartment building going up
[4:19:29] south of Cammarata Road where
[4:19:30] there's only one exit in and
[4:19:30] out and that community barn in
[4:19:33] 2003 we just had a major
[4:19:33] traffic back up in
[4:19:34] the evacuation of Rancho
[4:19:35] Bernardo when the fire broke
[4:19:38] out where all the new
[4:19:39] developments are and we're
[4:19:39] going to address that if we can
[4:19:40] fix it.
[4:19:40] I'm meeting with the police
[4:19:43] department next week to talk
[4:19:44] about evacuation procedures.
[4:19:44] We can certainly fix it but
[4:19:45] that's because these are
[4:19:48] planned developments and we
[4:19:49] know where they're going.
[4:19:49] And so I think that's part of
[4:19:53] our request is just to make
[4:19:53] sure that we have transparency
[4:19:54] in this and that things don't
[4:19:57] just pop up out of nowhere.
[4:19:58] So I'd love to talk about, you
[4:19:59] know, fire zones and evacuation
[4:20:02] plans when the when this comes
[4:20:03] back And again, I'm not
[4:20:04] committing my vote either way
[4:20:04] because I wouldn't do that.
[4:20:07] I'm committing to having a
[4:20:08] discussion again.
[4:20:08] So I appreciate that And thank
[4:20:12] you very much for your time.
[4:20:12] All right.
[4:20:13] I don't see anybody on
[4:20:16] the lights sitting here in this
[4:20:16] chair.
[4:20:17] I feel compelled It seems to me
[4:20:21] that there's definitely
[4:20:22] the vote for the first part and
[4:20:22] I believe there's actually
[4:20:26] definitely votes for the second
[4:20:26] part.
[4:20:27] The risk that the city attorney
[4:20:31] has not addressed and I don't
[4:20:32] think my colleagues have asked.
[4:20:36] We're fighting the clock on
[4:20:37] getting rid of footnote seven
[4:20:41] Any delay pushes the final
[4:20:42] action which is not final today
[4:20:46] goes through bureaucratic steps
[4:20:47] before footnote seven actually
[4:20:50] is a race from the books.
[4:20:51] Well anybody come after us for
[4:20:55] a brown I don't know But there
[4:20:56] is a risk But I think the votes
[4:21:01] are there if it were to
[4:21:05] bifurcated So that's my thought
[4:21:06] I'm still going to support it
[4:21:11] as is But just want to make
[4:21:11] sure that all my colleagues
[4:21:15] including our esteemed
[4:21:16] colleague Councilmember Foster
[4:21:17] is aware of that option.
[4:21:17] But if you want to leave it
[4:21:20] like that in the sucker
[4:21:21] the motion wants to leave it
[4:21:22] like that So be it.
[4:21:27] I appreciate the comments
[4:21:32] Council PRESIDENT But as it
[4:21:36] stands right now I have tried
[4:21:41] to work with the administration
[4:21:42] I have not heard anything in
[4:21:46] regards to a pause and when I
[4:21:47] say I drove the community I
[4:21:51] drove a project that is in
[4:21:51] the dead end of a hillside
[4:21:58] where I could not drive my car
[4:21:59] through the road to get there
[4:22:04] and for me I don't know how we
[4:22:05] get a fire truck through.
[4:22:08] There you go.
[4:22:13] And so I just have to stand on
[4:22:14] my position at this point And
[4:22:19] again it is to request an
[4:22:19] action to come back.
[4:22:23] As I do know there is a lot of
[4:22:24] discussion that needs to take
[4:22:28] place because when we roll this
[4:22:29] out and did the implementation
[4:22:33] clearly we did it wrong.
[4:22:33] Yeah And so I would request
[4:22:37] that we move forward and call
[4:22:38] for the question and let's move
[4:22:38] on.
[4:22:38] Thank you.
[4:22:42] That was the last comment.
[4:22:43] The motion is up there on
[4:22:43] the screen.
[4:22:47] Put forth by Councilmember
[4:22:48] Foster and a second by Council
[4:22:49] member Campo.
[4:22:52] Clerk Call the vote.
[4:22:53] >> I started the voting system.
[4:23:01] Please cast your vote.
[4:23:04] That does pass unanimously 8 to
[4:23:05] 0 with council member Yellow
[4:23:09] River absent.
[4:23:10] Okay with that action we will
[4:23:14] now adjourn Council for
[4:23:14] the next regularly scheduled
[4:23:15] Council meeting on Monday