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That. All >> right. Good

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afternoon, everyone. Welcome to

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your city hall. I'd like to

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call to order this meeting

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of the salzer city council for

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the afternoon of august 18th.

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toni, would you please call the

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roll to me here, compose

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present today's here to win

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ortiz present mulcahy >> here.

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don kendall is here. Casey

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foley mehan >> here you have a

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quorum. Thank you. All right.

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now if you're able please stand

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and join us in the pledge

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of allegiance. I pledge

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allegiance to the flag >>

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of the united states of america

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and to the republic for which

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it stands one nation under god,

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indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all. >> thank you

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and welcome once again. Today's

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invocation will be provided by

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ten fong taekwondo institute

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council member twan please tell

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us more. >> thank you very

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much, mayor. Good afternoon

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everyone. Today my office is

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pleased to present our >>

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second invocation of the month.

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we are especially honored to

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have a special performance >>

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prepared for us today thanks to

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tun fong and his taekwondo

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group. Taekwondo is a martial

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art that emphasized discipline,

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respect, perseverance and

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self-control beyond impressive

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techniques and physical skill.

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it teaches us the >> importance

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of focus, confidence and value

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that can inspire >> all of us

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in our daily lives. And

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of course >> we are very

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grateful they are here to

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demonstrate this skill to us

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today. I think it is safe to

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say that after watching this

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performance none of us will be

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volunteering to test their

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kicks. With that please join >>

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me in giving a warm welcome to

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ten fong and his taekwondo

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group >>

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. Take one look. Thank you

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both. >> I am the fastest way

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this race

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is to be awarded for the five.

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oh, my god. >> oh. Oh! Oh oh

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oh. 000. Oh. Oh oh. Oh. Oh. Oh

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yeah. >> oh oh. So. So far. So

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far. All right. Glad you're

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back on >> the official place.

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I've got to go back. >> thank

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you so. We start we started

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when you start to get started

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yeah. We're going to be get a

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lot out natalie >> okay, now

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okay. Just >> gonna have fun.

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wow. Got nothing to come by but

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I think it's fun to be up loud

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oh yeah yeah okay yeah >> yeah

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oh yeah. Okay. So what what is

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it >> like what? Soccer got?

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let's go first. Is that what I

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talked about? Think back and

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come back and get back to the

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back but ready? Yeah. Get

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ready. Ready. Why don't you go?

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ready to go? I think >> that

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this and >> like yeah, >> yeah.

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marvin >> come up and >> block

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like that but this way just

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come back out now okay >>

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you up. Yeah. Okay on it. Fun

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please. Yeah, yeah >>

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which like that I mean it

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actually plaza yeah I have been

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out and you have to measure

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to tell us where I go very very

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fancy that's it but but but

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very close and yet like yeah >>

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that's what >> we we we >> like

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. Yeah so now let's know if

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that's your plan. Yeah. How you

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cook it right I mean you you

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now with left. Yeah >> like I'm

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okay >> thank you all very much

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again that was tom fong

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taekwondo institute thank you

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again council member dawn for

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arranging today's invocation.

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we'll do our ceremonial items.

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vice mayor foley, if you would

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join me at the podium we will

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recognize the bay area women's

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sports initiative also known as

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bossy >>

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. >> good afternoon. Today I'm

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>> here to recognize the bay

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area women's sports initiative

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for their continued success in

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advancing youth recreation.

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founded in 2005 bossy and you

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gotta love that acronym, don't

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you? >> women are bossy but

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they're also in control. >> is

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a nonprofit. Bossy >> is a

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nonprofit organization rooted

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in the belief that the women's

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sports community holds the

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power to engage, inspire and

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empower girls to stay active

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regardless of ability or

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socioeconomic >> status. As

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someone who has been proud to

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support bossy, I have seen

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firsthand why this organization

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is so important to our

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community. Throughout >> the

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last 21 years bossy has

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supported over 29,000 children

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and youth through participation

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in their free programs.

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empowered 80 plus coaches and

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inspired >> more than 9800

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volunteers. And let's be honest

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girls belong on the court, on

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the field, at the rink and in

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the stands cheering each other

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on. We're also living >>

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through such an exciting time

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for women's sports here in

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san jose and across the bay

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area particularly with the

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addition of the national >>

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women's hockey league team

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coming to san jose soon. We're

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seeing more professional

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women's sports teams, more

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attention to women athletes and

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more young girls getting >> the

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chance to see women succeeding

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at the highest levels. And I

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think one of the most powerful

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things we can give a young girl

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is the ability to look at an

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athlete and say >> I want to be

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her or even better I can be

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her. But that starts way before

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the professional level. It

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starts when a girl gets her

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first pair of cleats steps onto

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a field, joins a team and

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realizes she belongs there.

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that's where >> the bay area

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women's sports initiative comes

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in. Girls often have less

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opportunities to play

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sports than boys. And this

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disparity is even greater for

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girls of color. Girls who play

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sports have better physical and

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mental health outcomes and

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graduate high school and

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college at higher rates. Bossy

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is creating those opportunities

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for girls right here in our

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community. Bosses first

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initiative aims to harness the

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power of women athletes by

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providing opportunity to serve

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young girls who weren't being

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exposed to organized sports or

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physical education classes and

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to reach girls in communities

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>> where obesity and diabetes

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were prevalent. As someone who

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cares deeply about san jose and

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the young people who call our

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city home, I really value >>

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organizations that are

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investing in our kids and

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giving them opportunities to

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thrive. Because when we invest

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in girls in sports we aren't

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just creating better athletes.

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we're creating future leaders,

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coaches and community members.

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congratulations to >> bossie

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your coaches, volunteers,

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parents and the incredible

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young women and girls you

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serve. Thank you for reminding

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our girls that they are capable

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and reserve >> every chance to

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play, compete, lead and

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succeed. To >> accept today's

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commendation, I'd like to

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welcome dana weintraub, ceo

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of bossy. Okay. First of all, I

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would just like to recognize

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those young people who just

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performed and shared their

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incredible skill of tai chi

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taekwondo with us. Wow, that

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was impressive. Good >>

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afternoon, vice mayor foley.

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mayor mehan and all the members

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of the city council, city

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leaders, partners and friends

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today >> I also have with

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me two bossy alumni coaches who

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are now on staff with us also

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two former collegiate and

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professional athletes annette

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greenlee and lindsey van allen.

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so, so glad they could be here

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with us. The >> rest of our

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team is getting ready to get

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back on playgrounds for back to

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school. On behalf of all of us,

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thank you for this incredibly

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meaningful recognition of our

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20th plus one anniversary bossi

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story is in so many ways a

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san jose's story. We were

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founded in 2005 at a time when

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investment in women's

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sports and access for sport for

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girls was far from guaranteed.

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the first women's professional

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soccer league had recently

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folded including our very own

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san jose cyber is the league's

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very first champions. Marlene

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barnes read the former manager

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of the cyber res along with

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soccer legend legends san jose

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brandi chastain and stanford

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cardinal julie foudy wanted to

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preserve something powerful

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that had grown out of that team

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the connection between women

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athletes and community in truth

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silicon valley fashion bossi

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began in marlene's garage and

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our first official office soon

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followed right here at city

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hall at the invitation of then

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mayor ron gonzalez. So it feels

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especially fitting to be back

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here at city hall 20 plus years

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later since our founding as you

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just heard from vice mayor

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foley, bossi has enrolled over

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29,000 children and youth

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engaged over 9500 volunteers

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and 80 athlete leadership team

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coaches, two of whom are with

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me today. We've built deep

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partnerships with schools and

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communities >> throughout

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san jose and the bay area. But

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the numbers only tell part

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of our story. The real story is

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the thousands of girls from

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under-resourced neighborhoods

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and children with disabilities

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who have stepped onto a busy

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playground and found that they

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belong. The young girl >> who

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finds confidence and begins to

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see yourself as a leader the

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bossy alumni who come back

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years later >> and are leaders

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in their community >> as bossy

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coaches, volunteers, staff and

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board members as well as chief

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of staff to city council member

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peter ortiz. Like our boss the

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alumni brisa rojas marino all

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creating the same opportunity

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for the next generation. 20

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years ago >> bossy was

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created in the wake of the loss

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of a professional women's

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sports team. Today san jose and

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the bay area area are

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experienced an extraordinary

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new era in women's sports. And

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the deep community connections

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which follow just yesterday the

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entire bfc team came out to

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hubbard media arts academy

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playground >> and >> reminded

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us what's possible when

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communities invest in the long,

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long game. We are deeply >>

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grateful to the city of san

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jose for being part of bossi

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story from the very beginning

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and continuing to believe in

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the power of sport to

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strengthen our community. Thank

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>> you vice mayor foley, mayor

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mehan and the entire city

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council for this commendation

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and for ensuring that the next

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generation of san jose youth

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has the opportunity to play, to

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lead and to succeed. We are

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incredibly proud of what we've

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built together over these first

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20 years and even more excited

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about what's ahead. Thank you.

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and we have a little something

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to except when I first >>

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actually gave you this. Thank

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you very much. Thank you. And

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our community. Thank you.

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appreciate it. Let's get a

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photo and we have a little

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something for you to wear in

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the photo. Okay, great. Send

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middle

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thank. It's great. Thank you.

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thank you so much and hopefully

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see you at the bfc. All right.

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thank you vice mayor and boss.

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we really appreciate the

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incredible work you do on our

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community will now move on to

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councilmember mulcahy and

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councilor dumont if you would

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join me here at the podium we

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will recognize valley services

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>>

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. It's always good afternoon

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everyone. I first of all I want

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to say thanks to

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councilmember mulcahy for

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allowing me to present this

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commendation alongside with

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him. It is my honor to

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recognize valley >> services

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for nearly 40 years of service

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to the residents of san jose.

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founded by mike and monica

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salinas valley service began >>

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in 1986 as a small scrap metal

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businesses and has grown into

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full service sanitation company

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serving projects and events

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throughout our community.

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valley services has also been

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>> a dedicated community

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partners supporting local

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organization and events

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including working with the

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san jose foos to provide

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restroom facility >> for major

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community gathering. I

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especially want to recognize

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their commitment to second

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chance employment by creating

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opportunities for individual

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who are incarcerated or return

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from rehabilitation. Valet

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service has helped people

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rebuild their lives, support >>

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their families and reach

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important milestones. For four

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decades valley's >> service

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have shown that a successful

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local business can also be a

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force for positive change.

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while staying true to >> it,

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family and community values >>

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on behalf of the city of san

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jose, thank you for your

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continuous service and

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commitment to our community.

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and I believe >> would like to

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say a few words. >> good

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afternoon mayor. Council

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members and everyone here

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today. On behalf of my family

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and everyone at valley services

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thank you for this recognition.

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it's especially meaningful to

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receive it here in san jose

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down the road from spartan

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stadium. There's a stretch

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of railroad tracks on south

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seventh street. My dad played

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along those tracks as a kid

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growing up in san jose. With

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humble beginnings and often

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finding refuge there when

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things got >> rough at home.

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decades later my parents would

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build valley's newest facility

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along those very same tracks. A

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full circle moment. I don't

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think either of them could have

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imagined at the time my parents

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mike and monica met in san jose

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when they were 16 and went on

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to start the business in 1986.

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at just 25 years old with one

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truck hauling scrap metal and

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junk cars around >> the bay

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area 40 years later valley is

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still proudly rooted right here

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in san jose. Today we employ

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nearly 100 people operate a c

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and disposal facility and

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provide site services for some

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of the bay area's largest

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events including the two

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concerts that were held right

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outside these doors. My three

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sisters and I grew up in the

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yard with our parents.

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eventually a few of us along

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with our husbands found our own

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places within the business. >>

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and now my two sons I see >>

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here are growing up there too.

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but when >> I think about what

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has allowed valley to be here

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for 40 years, the story isn't

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really about >> our family.

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it's >> about the people who

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built this company alongside us

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. From the beginning my parents

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believed in giving people an

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opportunity to work including

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those looking for a second

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chance or simply needing

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someone to take a chance on

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them. We watched people turn

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those opportunities into

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careers, become leaders within

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our company, support their

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families, buy their first

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homes, start businesses

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of their own. And even retire

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after decades with valley. For

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some those milestones may have

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once felt out of reach. That's

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what our purpose >> empowering

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lives enhancing communities

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means to us and creating

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opportunities for people and

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being there for the community

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that has been there for us. >>

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so while our family is

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incredibly proud to accept this

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commendation, we accept it on

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behalf of our employees past

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and present. They are the

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people who made valley what it

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is. 40 years ago my dad was the

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kid who found refuge along

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those tracks on south seventh

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street. Today my children are

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growing up on that same ground.

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san jose is where my parents

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story began where valley's

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story began and where we hope

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the next generation will

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continue it. Thank you to

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councilmembers mulcahy, dewan,

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mayor mason and the city

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council for this recognition.

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we're incredibly grateful to

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call san jose home. Thank you

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>>

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. Just so we can get away

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. Bye bye. All right. We're on

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to our third and final

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ceremonial item for today.

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kills for our compost. If you

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would join me at the podium. We

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will recognize as jaycee's

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air traffic controllers. >>

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thank you, mayor, and good

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afternoon everyone. Whenever we

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are flying >> in or out of san

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jose, do you ever think about

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the many people who make our

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journey possible? Today we

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celebrate >> and recognize the

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work of air traffic

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controllers. These are the men

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and women who keep airplanes

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at safe distances >> from each

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other and prevent them from

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colliding. Thanks to our

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air traffic controllers nearly

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12 million annual passengers

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travel safely through san jose

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mineta airport. Being an air >>

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traffic controller requires

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exceptional levels

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of concentration and

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communication to ensure

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aircrafts can take off and land

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safely and in spite

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of adversary and I'm sorry

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adverse adversity like staff

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shortages or government

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shutdowns. Our air traffic

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controllers show up sometimes

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going weeks without pay. And

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during the most recent

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government shutdown several

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local organizations stepped up

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and provided different levels

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of assistance to this group

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of federal workers for which I

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am deeply, deeply grateful to

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all of the neighbors who showed

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up for our community and

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supported our air traffic

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controllers here in san jose.

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we often don't get to see,

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interact or think the people

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who make our air travel

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possible. And it's my hope that

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>> with this commendation we

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are demonstrating a small token

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of our appreciation for the

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hard work and at times

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sacrifice that our air traffic

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controllers make to ensure that

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we get to our destinations

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safely. So today we are joined

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by alex coronado and colby

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saunders of san jose mineta

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airport. And now I'd like to

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invite victor ramirez to share

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a few words and accept this

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commendation on behalf of the

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air traffic controllers here

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at san jose. Thank you so >>

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much. I didn't have a speech

578
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friday. I came straight from

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work today but I truly

580
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appreciate it. We are the ones

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behind the scenes. When you

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talk about aviation, when

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you're taking a flight you

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always think about the pilot

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because you see the pilot. He's

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00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:46,260
the one that greets you the

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00:30:46,260 --> 00:30:47,260
ticket agent. They're the ones

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to collect your tickets. But

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00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,500
you forget about the behind the

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scenes. So I truly appreciate

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it. And all the air traffic

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controllers are grateful for

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this opportunity to kind of be

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in the limelight. I know

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sometimes tragic accidents do

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bring us to the limelight and

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that's one of the things that

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00:31:02,170 --> 00:31:03,160
did bring us the limelight with

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the accident. But even during

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this shutdown we truly

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appreciate all the

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organizations, agencies,

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00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,500
companies that came out support

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it whether it was lunch,

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00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,000
coffee. So we do appreciate

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that because yeah, being on the

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shutdown for 40 days plus

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without pay, it made a lot

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of impact on our families and

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00:31:20,130 --> 00:31:22,900
our daily lives. So we are so

611
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grateful and remember next time

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you guys are flying or going to

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your destination, there's

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people behind the scenes that

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00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:29,200
do a lot of this work and try

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and make sure that we get you

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guys there safely, smoothly.

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hopefully don't blame us for

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being delayed. It's not us.

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most of the time it's whether

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but the pilots will blame the

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00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:40,150
air traffic controllers. But

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thank you again >>

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for

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all right. Thank you all very

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much. We are on to orders

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of the day. Do any colleagues

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have suggested changes to

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today's printed agenda? For

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00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:58,150
casey. >> yes. I'd like to pull

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item 10.1 please. Okay. That's

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off land use concern. Okay.

633
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,500
well, when we get to ladies

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consent, we will do that. You

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know, appreciate the heads up.

636
00:33:08,110 --> 00:33:09,800
any other changes to the

637
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,120
printed agenda? Not seeing any.

638
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we do have an adjournment today

639
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. >> today will be adjourning

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today's meeting in honor

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00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:25,613
of father peter pabst sj. Today

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I want to take a moment to

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remember and honor the life

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of father peter pabst who

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passed away in may. A man whose

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faith, compassion, humor and

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00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,210
unwavering belief in young

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00:33:38,210 --> 00:33:40,300
people touched countless

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00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:41,180
countless lives here in

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san jose. Father peter gerard

651
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pabst was born in saint paul,

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minnesota in 1954 and his

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00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:51,260
impact here in san jose began

654
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in 1986. After being ordained a

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priest in san francisco. Part

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of his ministry included

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serving at bellarmine and as a

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resident minister at santa

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00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:05,100
clara university. Experiences

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that helped him find his gift

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for connecting with young

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00:34:08,700 --> 00:34:09,220
people, helping them see

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00:34:09,220 --> 00:34:11,270
possibilities for their lives

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that they couldn't yet see for

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00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:15,210
themselves. That gift was

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at the heart of his most

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00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:20,270
important life life's work. In

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2000 father pabst founded the

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sacred heart nativity school's

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opening new doors for students

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00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,190
from low income families. Then

672
00:34:30,190 --> 00:34:33,400
in 2013 he took on another

673
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,100
ambitious mission as the

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founding present of crystal

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rey, san jose's jesuit high

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00:34:38,190 --> 00:34:40,419
school. Father pabst believed

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deeply that a family's income

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00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,210
should never determine whether

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00:34:44,210 --> 00:34:46,290
a young person has access to an

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00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:48,429
excellent education or the

681
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:50,210
opportunity to build a bright

682
00:34:50,210 --> 00:34:53,100
future. Under his leadership as

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founding present and later as

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chancellor crystal rose,

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00:34:56,290 --> 00:34:58,210
san jose has helped hundreds

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of students become the first in

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00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:01,150
their families to attend

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00:35:01,150 --> 00:35:03,140
college. That is an

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extraordinarily legacy. But

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00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,180
anyone who knew father pabst

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00:35:07,180 --> 00:35:09,160
knows that his impact can't be

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00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,800
measured just by the

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institutions he built or the

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number of students who he

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00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:15,180
helped get on the path to

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00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:17,418
college. Service was deeply

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00:35:18,110 --> 00:35:20,190
personal to him. He found

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00:35:20,190 --> 00:35:23,170
tremendous joy in people. He

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00:35:23,170 --> 00:35:25,180
was proud of his students and

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00:35:25,180 --> 00:35:27,700
alumni and those who supported

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00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:29,110
them and he stayed connected

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00:35:29,110 --> 00:35:31,200
with former students long after

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00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,190
they graduated, sometimes even

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00:35:32,190 --> 00:35:34,419
officiating their weddings. His

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00:35:35,110 --> 00:35:37,260
warmth, infectious energy and

706
00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:40,200
sense of humor made people feel

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00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,270
welcome while his faith

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00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:43,120
inspired them to believe in

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00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,180
themselves and what was

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00:35:44,180 --> 00:35:47,180
possible for their lives. Today

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00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:50,270
we honor father pabst not only

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00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:52,100
for his service and what he

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00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:54,130
built but for how he made

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00:35:54,130 --> 00:35:56,413
people feel seen, supported,

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encouraged and loved. On behalf

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00:36:01,150 --> 00:36:03,300
of the city of san jose, I want

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to extend our deepest

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00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,700
condolences to father papp's

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family to the many students,

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00:36:08,190 --> 00:36:10,170
colleagues, friends and loved

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00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:12,250
ones whose lives he profoundly

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00:36:12,250 --> 00:36:16,400
touched. And now I'd like to

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invite carla quinto, a crystal

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00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:20,230
alum, to share a few words

725
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:22,423
about father pabst. >> welcome.

726
00:36:25,210 --> 00:36:28,180
thank you. I recently had a

727
00:36:28,180 --> 00:36:30,140
question posed to me and that

728
00:36:30,140 --> 00:36:32,500
is who have you met >> that

729
00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:33,700
changed the course of your

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00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:35,160
life? For me it was a man who

731
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,250
had a vision of providing

732
00:36:36,250 --> 00:36:38,250
resources, access and

733
00:36:38,250 --> 00:36:40,210
opportunity to kids in

734
00:36:40,210 --> 00:36:42,280
san jose. Reverend peter patz

735
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,170
believed that education was the

736
00:36:44,170 --> 00:36:46,200
great equalizer to give these

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00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,300
students a chance to get out

738
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:50,270
of poverty. In 2012, reverend

739
00:36:50,270 --> 00:36:52,150
peter pappas became the present

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00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:54,600
of christ the san jose jesuit

741
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,260
high school where he continued

742
00:36:55,260 --> 00:36:57,130
to wear many hats to support

743
00:36:57,130 --> 00:36:59,000
the school's mission to help

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00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,150
students get to and through

745
00:37:00,150 --> 00:37:03,180
college and to be set on a path

746
00:37:03,180 --> 00:37:04,210
toward a sustainable,

747
00:37:04,210 --> 00:37:06,421
fulfilling future. Under his

748
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,120
leadership, 100% of christa rey

749
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,220
alums have been admitted to

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00:37:10,220 --> 00:37:12,250
four year universities with

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00:37:12,250 --> 00:37:14,000
most the first in their

752
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,110
families to pursue higher

753
00:37:15,110 --> 00:37:17,160
education. They start their

754
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,160
college career with

755
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,100
professional experience gained

756
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:21,700
through a corporate work study

757
00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:23,300
program that partners with

758
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:24,160
companies across multiple

759
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,700
industries in silicon valley

760
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:28,150
including nonprofit kids, tech

761
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:30,400
giants, health care and

762
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,400
educational institutions where

763
00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:33,200
students work for one day a

764
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,000
week obtaining valuable

765
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000
communication organization and

766
00:37:37,140 --> 00:37:39,180
interpersonal skills needed in

767
00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:41,220
the workplace. I had the

768
00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:43,100
opportunity to graduate from

769
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:44,250
chris array's inaugural class

770
00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:47,160
in 2018 where I graduated with

771
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,110
over 1000 hours of work

772
00:37:49,110 --> 00:37:51,600
experience as an internet cisco

773
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,110
systems and acceptance and

774
00:37:53,110 --> 00:37:54,240
scholarship to santa clara

775
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:57,140
university. I've since grown in

776
00:37:57,140 --> 00:37:58,240
my career at stanford

777
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,600
university for the past four

778
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,000
and a half years where I am a

779
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,140
talent development coordinator

780
00:38:03,140 --> 00:38:04,150
helping our staff grow

781
00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:06,500
professional li and obtain

782
00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:07,120
skills meaningful to their

783
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,412
careers. >> and in 2024 I

784
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,190
started my own small business

785
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:12,290
providing career coaching for

786
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:14,800
early in career first

787
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,100
generation professionals where

788
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:17,150
I have been able to help over

789
00:38:17,150 --> 00:38:19,700
100 people understand and

790
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:21,200
navigate the job search process

791
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,190
. But I'm not the only one who

792
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:25,200
has been able to reap the

793
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,100
benefits of getting access to

794
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:28,150
the resources christopher array

795
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:30,900
provided for its students as

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00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:33,900
over 150 alumni have been hired

797
00:38:33,130 --> 00:38:34,210
by christopher wray work city

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00:38:34,210 --> 00:38:36,900
partners for internships and

799
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:38,800
professional work. With

800
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,500
christopher, his fifth

801
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:40,120
graduating >> class earning

802
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,140
degrees from four year colleges

803
00:38:42,140 --> 00:38:44,250
this year, alumni are entering

804
00:38:44,250 --> 00:38:46,120
the workforce not only with a

805
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,100
degree but extensive work

806
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:49,150
experience and a professional

807
00:38:49,150 --> 00:38:51,800
network of mentors and

808
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,280
champions. None of this would

809
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,500
have been possible without

810
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,200
reverends peter papp's vision

811
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,100
to create opportunities for

812
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:01,800
students in east san jose. His

813
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:02,700
passion to serve

814
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:03,240
under-resourced families should

815
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,270
be recognized and and

816
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:06,230
remembered for its

817
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:08,800
extraordinary >> impact on the

818
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,120
community. I'm proud to be an

819
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,500
alumna from christa ray and I'm

820
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:13,160
thankful for reverend papp's

821
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,100
contributions to make dreams

822
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:17,900
possible for many students and

823
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:19,500
families in san jose. Thank

824
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:22,500
you. Thank >> you. We really

825
00:39:28,110 --> 00:39:29,150
appreciate you being here to

826
00:39:29,150 --> 00:39:31,180
share how father pabst impacted

827
00:39:31,180 --> 00:39:32,290
your life and that of hundreds

828
00:39:32,290 --> 00:39:34,400
of other students I know we're

829
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,150
also joined by leaders jesuit

830
00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:38,300
school leaders, educators,

831
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:40,200
staff >> from santa clara

832
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,120
university, christopher wray,

833
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,300
jesuit high school and sacred

834
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:44,100
heart nativity schools. I just

835
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:46,400
want to thank you all for being

836
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,210
here. If you'd like to stand

837
00:39:47,210 --> 00:39:48,250
up, we'll just thank you for

838
00:39:48,250 --> 00:39:50,000
your service in our community.

839
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,500
I know peter papp's had a big

840
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:53,140
impact on your lives. You don't

841
00:39:53,140 --> 00:39:54,150
have to stand up but thank you

842
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:57,615
all for being >> here and thank

843
00:40:03,150 --> 00:40:04,900
you again for being here to

844
00:40:04,900 --> 00:40:05,220
help honor a great man who had

845
00:40:05,220 --> 00:40:07,700
an incredible impact on our

846
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:08,250
community. We're going to move

847
00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:11,210
on now to our >> close session

848
00:40:11,210 --> 00:40:13,421
report. >> thank you, mayor.

849
00:40:14,260 --> 00:40:16,160
nothing to report from closed

850
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,900
session today. Okay. Thank >>

851
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:20,170
you. So we I know we have a

852
00:40:20,170 --> 00:40:21,200
number of folks here who want

853
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,280
to comment on an item coming up

854
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,400
a little later. I do since we

855
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:24,280
have folks who may not have

856
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,220
been here in the past, I just

857
00:40:26,220 --> 00:40:28,600
want to note that if you would

858
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,700
like to speak it would we would

859
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:32,700
appreciate if you would fill

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out a comment >> card. Our

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00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,130
clerk will call out your names.

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the comment cards are down here

863
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000
at the bottom of the

864
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,130
ampitheater seating and there's

865
00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:44,240
and also up at the top. So if

866
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:45,240
you would fill out a card and

867
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,200
make clear which item on the

868
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,900
agenda you want to speak on

869
00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:49,400
that will help us be more

870
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,260
efficient. Thank you all. Next

871
00:40:51,260 --> 00:40:54,120
is the consent calendar. Are

872
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,250
there any items council members

873
00:40:55,250 --> 00:40:58,800
would like to pull from consent

874
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,700
? Not seen >> any. Do we have a

875
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:05,200
motion so I can. Great. Thank

876
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,150
you toni. Do we have public >>

877
00:41:07,150 --> 00:41:09,300
comment on the consent

878
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,200
calendar? Yes >> I do. I have

879
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,290
currently three cards in person

880
00:41:12,290 --> 00:41:15,150
and five hands online before I

881
00:41:15,150 --> 00:41:16,170
call names as a reminder,

882
00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:17,200
speakers must comply with the

883
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,240
city's code of conduct for

884
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,160
public meetings. Please direct

885
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,240
comments to the body limit

886
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:23,140
remarks to the agenda item. In

887
00:41:23,140 --> 00:41:24,270
this case it's the consent

888
00:41:24,270 --> 00:41:27,900
calendar as a whole even if you

889
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:29,100
submitted more than one card

890
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:31,280
for an item you will speak one

891
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,800
minute on all of the items.

892
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,100
conduct that materially

893
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:36,700
disrupts the meeting or

894
00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:37,130
interferes with others ability

895
00:41:37,130 --> 00:41:38,210
to participate may result in

896
00:41:38,210 --> 00:41:40,800
muting or removal as authorized

897
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,400
by law. If you are

898
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,130
participating by telephone you

899
00:41:42,130 --> 00:41:43,180
press star nine to raise your

900
00:41:43,180 --> 00:41:45,200
hand and I actually see the

901
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,210
three cards I have in person

902
00:41:46,210 --> 00:41:48,600
are for the same person. So

903
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,150
america please come on down.

904
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:51,230
you have one minute to speak on

905
00:41:51,230 --> 00:41:53,270
all three items and then online

906
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:55,900
I'll move to dave followed by

907
00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:57,900
blair >>

908
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:16,824
and that's all I need to get

909
00:42:19,210 --> 00:42:23,300
and I know I want to get

910
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:25,270
everybody am I'm sorry if you

911
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:27,300
want to speak on this item you

912
00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:28,600
can come down. You will have

913
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,260
one minute. The agenda is

914
00:42:29,260 --> 00:42:32,260
posted online as always >> I

915
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,200
understand you have one minute

916
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,100
on this item. This is the

917
00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:37,200
consent calendar. >> okay. I'm

918
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,190
going to go ahead and move up

919
00:42:38,190 --> 00:42:40,150
to the online. Go >> to online

920
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:43,150
first. Go ahead, dave followed

921
00:42:44,260 --> 00:42:47,260
by blair. Go ahead, dave

922
00:42:50,270 --> 00:42:52,150
followed by blair dave,

923
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:56,215
go ahead, kay. I'm going >> to

924
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,230
move on to blair followed by

925
00:42:59,230 --> 00:43:02,230
connie. >> hi blair beekman boy

926
00:43:05,110 --> 00:43:06,280
it's nice to appear on zoom

927
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,110
again here in san jose. I'm

928
00:43:08,110 --> 00:43:09,210
living in san diego for the

929
00:43:09,210 --> 00:43:11,190
past four years. Thank you for

930
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:12,150
working with the state

931
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:13,290
of california to allow zoom

932
00:43:13,290 --> 00:43:16,629
again and hopefully we can have

933
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,400
a hopeful good public decorum

934
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,130
and public process with the

935
00:43:20,130 --> 00:43:22,000
future of zoom. It's a real

936
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,500
good democratic community too.

937
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:26,300
thank you. >> I wanted to

938
00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:28,300
comment on the northern

939
00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:29,000
california regional

940
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,150
intelligence center that you

941
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:31,210
are going to be approving

942
00:43:31,210 --> 00:43:33,280
today. I hope there can be a

943
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,170
comment from your someone from

944
00:43:36,170 --> 00:43:38,160
council what exactly we are

945
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,230
doing with the future of nick

946
00:43:39,230 --> 00:43:41,130
rick things they've just been

947
00:43:41,130 --> 00:43:43,200
caught with san francisco you

948
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,420
know giving federal agencies

949
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,100
carte blanche to data

950
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:50,100
collection practices and

951
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:52,270
they've been spying on people

952
00:43:52,270 --> 00:43:55,150
and spying on our immigrant

953
00:43:55,150 --> 00:43:57,500
communities in really large

954
00:43:57,500 --> 00:43:58,220
numbers. What is southeast

955
00:43:58,220 --> 00:44:00,200
response to that? How are you

956
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,140
going to work on that? And I'll

957
00:44:02,140 --> 00:44:05,900
talk more about this item at a

958
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:08,900
connie followed by america in

959
00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:11,900
person. Hello, my name is

960
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:14,270
connie. Good morning mayor and

961
00:44:14,270 --> 00:44:16,280
council members I am speaking

962
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,170
on consent item ten dot 1ai am

963
00:44:20,170 --> 00:44:22,170
county I'm sorry we're not on

964
00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:24,150
the the land use consent right

965
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:26,140
now so those people who are

966
00:44:26,140 --> 00:44:27,230
online if you're here to speak

967
00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:31,220
about 10.1 a we're going to get

968
00:44:31,220 --> 00:44:34,120
to that next so I would thank

969
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,260
you. Okay. I'm going to

970
00:44:37,260 --> 00:44:38,270
go ahead and go to america here

971
00:44:38,270 --> 00:44:41,627
in person. I'm >> speaking to

972
00:44:47,170 --> 00:44:49,200
three items today regarding

973
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,120
northern california regional

974
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,140
intelligence center. It has

975
00:44:52,140 --> 00:44:55,140
something to do with your >>

976
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,180
citizens quality of life.

977
00:44:57,180 --> 00:44:59,250
therefore it is illegal to put

978
00:44:59,250 --> 00:45:01,260
this under a consent agenda.

979
00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:04,170
your staff is trying to do it

980
00:45:04,170 --> 00:45:06,190
under the radar pass so nobody

981
00:45:06,190 --> 00:45:07,210
knows what you guys are trying

982
00:45:07,210 --> 00:45:08,230
to do with the intelligence

983
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:10,240
center that needs to be put to

984
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:12,130
be discussed. I wish to pour

985
00:45:12,130 --> 00:45:14,700
that I also wish to poor

986
00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:16,700
resilience facility coalition

987
00:45:16,180 --> 00:45:18,900
adoption for the four climate

988
00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:20,170
bond readiness that concerns

989
00:45:20,170 --> 00:45:22,417
your citizens property taxes >>

990
00:45:23,300 --> 00:45:24,200
you're trying to make a pay

991
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,800
more taxes again and she is

992
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,250
again trying to pass this under

993
00:45:27,250 --> 00:45:29,180
the radar. I wish to pull that

994
00:45:29,180 --> 00:45:31,160
for your citizens to discuss in

995
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,180
open public discussion. I also

996
00:45:33,180 --> 00:45:36,200
wish to pull your heritage tree

997
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,500
list to be discussed because

998
00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:40,405
heritage tree list has >>

999
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:43,240
sentimental feelings and values

1000
00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:45,150
to your citizens who are

1001
00:45:45,150 --> 00:45:47,415
founding citizens. So just >>

1002
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:51,140
okay that's your time bryan >>

1003
00:45:51,140 --> 00:45:53,250
online followed by not fine in

1004
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:56,625
person I think the applause may

1005
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,120
have drowned out that I called

1006
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,170
a person. Can you hear me okay?

1007
00:46:04,170 --> 00:46:07,100
yeah. Hold on, bryan. After

1008
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:10,120
after bryan is not fine. Come

1009
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,150
on down. Go ahead, bryan. >>

1010
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:14,900
thank you, ma'am. I would I

1011
00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:15,240
sent a letter about the tree

1012
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:18,150
thing and I know we're going to

1013
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:20,400
be sticking to one minute. I

1014
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,130
would like to remind everybody

1015
00:46:21,130 --> 00:46:23,600
that mr. Bateman has been

1016
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,280
bringing up the security issues

1017
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,500
and data being shared for many,

1018
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:28,250
many, many, many, many, many,

1019
00:46:28,250 --> 00:46:30,260
many, many, many years and for

1020
00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:32,900
many, many, many, many years

1021
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:33,250
mr. Beekman has been ignored

1022
00:46:33,250 --> 00:46:36,700
and he has been correct pretty

1023
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:38,300
much about all of it. And so

1024
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:39,240
now people are councils are

1025
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:41,290
having to go back and finish. I

1026
00:46:41,290 --> 00:46:43,150
would just humbly suggest that

1027
00:46:43,150 --> 00:46:46,000
maybe people listen to us just

1028
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,200
once in a while. That's not a

1029
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,000
rude I'm sorry that make it

1030
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,200
clearer that you're hearing it.

1031
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,280
thank you. >> thank you. Not

1032
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,170
fine. Did you come down? It's

1033
00:46:56,170 --> 00:46:58,220
anonymous. It just is not fine

1034
00:46:58,220 --> 00:47:01,280
for the name. Okay. I'm going

1035
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,220
to move on to alec again. This

1036
00:47:04,220 --> 00:47:06,000
is for regular consent, not

1037
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,000
10.1 alec online. No, sorry. I

1038
00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:13,400
think I'm in for the other one

1039
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,400
that you can pass. Okay. For

1040
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,604
now >> and then amy, that are

1041
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:29,220
you also 10.1. Hi, can you hear

1042
00:47:29,220 --> 00:47:32,622
me now I'm talking about >>

1043
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,220
public safety and the data

1044
00:47:34,220 --> 00:47:36,422
centers. Okay, go ahead. >>

1045
00:47:40,130 --> 00:47:42,400
my name is amy. I grew up in

1046
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,150
santa clara county and I'm a

1047
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:45,290
survivor of a live torture

1048
00:47:45,290 --> 00:47:47,110
basement. I was placed in

1049
00:47:47,110 --> 00:47:49,180
special victims unit and I've

1050
00:47:49,180 --> 00:47:51,500
been in relocation programs for

1051
00:47:51,500 --> 00:47:53,240
25 years. I've been trying to

1052
00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:56,600
join in reports of child

1053
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,150
trafficking and at the san jose

1054
00:47:58,150 --> 00:48:01,210
pd lobby who have been blocking

1055
00:48:01,210 --> 00:48:04,200
me time and time and time again

1056
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,900
internal affairs picked up

1057
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:07,900
my case and then they did an

1058
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:08,200
investigation. They found out

1059
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,290
the police officers were found

1060
00:48:10,290 --> 00:48:12,429
guilty >> and disciplined. And

1061
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:15,240
to this day I still haven't

1062
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:17,280
been able to enter in my in

1063
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,428
my evidence and withholding

1064
00:48:20,130 --> 00:48:21,240
evidence from the multistate

1065
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:23,424
investigation naming my abuser

1066
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:27,110
as I suspect is called

1067
00:48:27,110 --> 00:48:30,220
obstruction of justice and I'm

1068
00:48:30,220 --> 00:48:32,800
receiving violent retaliation.

1069
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,700
>> okay. Thank you. And the

1070
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:36,900
in-person speaker didn't come

1071
00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:37,900
down so I'm going to go back to

1072
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:40,900
counsel. That's all. Okay,

1073
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,150
great. I just want to note for

1074
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:43,100
the record since we have a

1075
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:44,900
number of people here and I

1076
00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:46,210
heard some applause that item

1077
00:48:46,210 --> 00:48:48,130
two nine which is on consent is

1078
00:48:48,130 --> 00:48:50,400
a very simple and very small

1079
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,160
reimbursement from the county

1080
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,200
of san mateo to our police

1081
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,200
department for services we

1082
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,170
rendered it related to

1083
00:48:55,170 --> 00:48:56,240
intelligence around human

1084
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:58,100
trafficking and terrorism. It's

1085
00:48:58,100 --> 00:48:59,900
a pretty routine item probably

1086
00:48:59,900 --> 00:48:59,280
doesn't need a lot

1087
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,900
of discussion or debate and the

1088
00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:03,190
other is the ability for the

1089
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:05,900
city to apply for grant funding

1090
00:49:05,900 --> 00:49:07,200
for some resilience work that

1091
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,170
we'd be doing. Also a very

1092
00:49:08,170 --> 00:49:10,230
modest amount of money. So

1093
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:11,260
that's why we have a consent

1094
00:49:11,260 --> 00:49:13,200
calendar is to be efficient and

1095
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:14,110
allow time for the public to

1096
00:49:14,110 --> 00:49:16,100
comment and for us to discuss

1097
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:17,260
and debate the big policy

1098
00:49:17,260 --> 00:49:19,280
questions that this council

1099
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,400
needs to weigh in on. So don't

1100
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:21,240
want anyone to think we're

1101
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:23,150
hiding the ball here. So on the

1102
00:49:23,150 --> 00:49:25,200
consent calendar and the items

1103
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,200
that have been posted since

1104
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,500
last week we had a motion to

1105
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:31,200
have any further discussion,

1106
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,240
not seen any. So toni, let's

1107
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:34,150
vote on the consent calendar

1108
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:36,150
please

1109
00:49:50,170 --> 00:49:52,170
. >> motion passes unanimously

1110
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,270
. Okay. Thank >> you. So we're

1111
00:49:56,270 --> 00:49:59,250
on to the land use consent

1112
00:49:59,250 --> 00:50:01,250
calendar and councilor akc I

1113
00:50:01,250 --> 00:50:03,300
think requested to poll and

1114
00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:06,120
comment on item 10.1 a is that

1115
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,140
>> correct? Hillsborough a case

1116
00:50:07,140 --> 00:50:08,270
to the floor is yours. Thank >>

1117
00:50:08,270 --> 00:50:11,100
you, mayor. Just a couple

1118
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:13,200
of questions for staff if

1119
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,620
they're available I'll start

1120
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,140
while you guys are coming down.

1121
00:50:20,140 --> 00:50:21,220
so the current pd there's some

1122
00:50:21,220 --> 00:50:23,100
question as to whether or not

1123
00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:24,240
it designates the permanent

1124
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:27,240
open space for the 565 acres

1125
00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:29,240
and how this conforming

1126
00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:31,424
rezoning would impact that.

1127
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,100
thank you. Councilmember chris

1128
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:40,270
burton, director of planning

1129
00:50:40,270 --> 00:50:42,400
building code enforcement. We

1130
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:42,280
brought a whole cast

1131
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:43,250
of characters to answer your

1132
00:50:43,250 --> 00:50:46,130
questions. So currently there's

1133
00:50:46,130 --> 00:50:47,250
a pd zoning in place. It's an

1134
00:50:47,250 --> 00:50:50,000
older zoning that allowed for

1135
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,160
the specific prior use which

1136
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,200
was the I-beam almaden research

1137
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,100
facility on a portion of this

1138
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:58,100
site and then the balance

1139
00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:00,700
of that pd zoning preserved

1140
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:02,110
open space you know in the 500

1141
00:51:02,110 --> 00:51:04,110
plus acres surrounding it.

1142
00:51:04,110 --> 00:51:05,210
since then obviously we've

1143
00:51:05,210 --> 00:51:07,300
updated the general plan the

1144
00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:08,100
underlying general plan

1145
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:10,100
designations to be consistent

1146
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:12,210
with that under the research

1147
00:51:12,210 --> 00:51:15,000
facility we included the ip,

1148
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,160
the industrial park designation

1149
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,700
and so this rezoning would

1150
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:21,200
preserve both the open spaces,

1151
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,400
open space and then the

1152
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,140
research park as ip or

1153
00:51:25,140 --> 00:51:27,230
industrial park moving forward.

1154
00:51:27,230 --> 00:51:28,280
so we believe it's it's

1155
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,500
consistent with the general

1156
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:31,500
plan approvals that have

1157
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:32,180
already taken place and

1158
00:51:32,180 --> 00:51:33,200
consistent with the types

1159
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,170
of uses that we've seen

1160
00:51:34,170 --> 00:51:36,400
historically on this side. >>

1161
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,260
okay. So to be clear, the open

1162
00:51:38,260 --> 00:51:40,426
space, the 565 acres will

1163
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:42,280
remain permanent open space

1164
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,628
with this. Okay. And then the

1165
00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:47,280
second is as it relates to the

1166
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,190
potential for the industrial

1167
00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:51,150
portion of the 35 acres or so

1168
00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:54,200
to be at some point a data

1169
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,200
center and how this conforming

1170
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,420
rezoning would impact that. >>

1171
00:52:00,130 --> 00:52:02,260
so the conforming rezoning

1172
00:52:02,260 --> 00:52:04,110
would allow uses consistent

1173
00:52:04,110 --> 00:52:05,240
with the industrial park

1174
00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:07,130
designation which include data

1175
00:52:07,130 --> 00:52:08,160
center with the issuance of a

1176
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,280
special use permit. So that's a

1177
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,100
discretionary permit that

1178
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:13,270
requires full clearance and

1179
00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:14,260
would go to a director's

1180
00:52:14,260 --> 00:52:16,240
hearing with public outreach

1181
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:18,200
and the opportunity for the

1182
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,700
public to comment. It's then

1183
00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:21,150
appealable to the planning

1184
00:52:21,150 --> 00:52:23,300
commission from that point so

1185
00:52:23,300 --> 00:52:25,800
>> to be clear they would still

1186
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,100
have to apply they would still

1187
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:28,170
go through a process that would

1188
00:52:28,170 --> 00:52:30,180
include public input and this

1189
00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:33,210
does not rubber stamp that a

1190
00:52:33,210 --> 00:52:35,000
data center being built there.

1191
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,250
that's correct. There is some

1192
00:52:37,250 --> 00:52:39,250
conversations about having

1193
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,160
citywide guidelines as they

1194
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,200
apply to data centers. Would

1195
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,230
this in any way prevent this

1196
00:52:45,230 --> 00:52:47,150
project's the potential data

1197
00:52:47,150 --> 00:52:49,120
center from conforming to those

1198
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,150
guidelines or being involved?

1199
00:52:51,150 --> 00:52:53,280
it would not know so I would

1200
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,000
check with staff but I believe

1201
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,240
we have received an application

1202
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:58,240
at this point and we don't

1203
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:00,300
receive so we haven't received

1204
00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:01,200
an application at this point.

1205
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,500
we have received I think a

1206
00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:04,120
prelim and had discussions with

1207
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,260
applicants considering the use

1208
00:53:06,260 --> 00:53:08,150
you know typically a special

1209
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:10,300
use permit could range anywhere

1210
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:12,400
from you know, 6 to 9 months

1211
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,280
for a typical process to the

1212
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,110
extent that it involves an

1213
00:53:15,110 --> 00:53:16,210
environmental impact report

1214
00:53:16,210 --> 00:53:18,600
which again a lot of the data

1215
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,110
centers that we're processing

1216
00:53:19,110 --> 00:53:21,220
require a full environmental

1217
00:53:21,220 --> 00:53:23,300
impact report and it would

1218
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:24,800
likely take considerably

1219
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,000
longer. And so the approval for

1220
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,700
that special use permit would

1221
00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:29,000
likely come after the adoption

1222
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,300
of the city wide standards on

1223
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:32,260
data centers. Great. Thank you.

1224
00:53:32,260 --> 00:53:33,260
that's it for me, mayor. Thank

1225
00:53:33,260 --> 00:53:35,230
you. Thanks, councilmember.

1226
00:53:35,230 --> 00:53:36,240
appreciate it. Let me turn to

1227
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:39,240
council for a comment. Thank

1228
00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:45,120
you. On the same item I'm just

1229
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,240
wondering if there are

1230
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:48,130
objective planning standards

1231
00:53:48,130 --> 00:53:50,170
and why is this coming to us

1232
00:53:50,170 --> 00:53:52,417
now? >> good afternoon munir

1233
00:53:56,130 --> 00:53:57,200
cynthia, deputy director

1234
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,800
of planning. So the conforming

1235
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,290
rezoning is an obligation and

1236
00:54:01,290 --> 00:54:03,130
therefore it's being brought to

1237
00:54:03,130 --> 00:54:06,500
council. We do have design

1238
00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:08,200
standards for projects that

1239
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,290
would come in the future at the

1240
00:54:09,290 --> 00:54:11,290
site but the rezoning only

1241
00:54:11,290 --> 00:54:13,290
allows for consistency between

1242
00:54:13,290 --> 00:54:15,150
the existing zoning on site and

1243
00:54:15,150 --> 00:54:17,120
the general plan designation so

1244
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,230
it expands the kinds of uses

1245
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:19,250
that could be allowed there

1246
00:54:19,250 --> 00:54:21,240
under the industrial park

1247
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:22,240
general plan land use

1248
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:24,424
designation but without an

1249
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:26,250
application it's hard to say

1250
00:54:26,250 --> 00:54:28,000
what kind of design standards

1251
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,100
would apply. Right. So >> I'm

1252
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:32,900
just wondering we received

1253
00:54:32,900 --> 00:54:34,250
information from several groups

1254
00:54:34,250 --> 00:54:36,000
that are very concerned about

1255
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,800
this and perhaps it's just a

1256
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,180
matter of understanding what

1257
00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:41,900
this is and what this is not.

1258
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:43,180
and so they have asked for a

1259
00:54:43,180 --> 00:54:46,700
deferral and since there's no

1260
00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:48,200
urgency to this and there's no

1261
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,190
project to this, would a 30 day

1262
00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:55,300
sort of a sort of hold be a

1263
00:54:55,300 --> 00:54:58,603
problem? Oh yeah. I think it

1264
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,100
might be worth asking the

1265
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:02,160
applicant I think the applicant

1266
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,500
has put this proposal in to

1267
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:06,130
identify a clearer path of what

1268
00:55:06,130 --> 00:55:07,220
kind of uses could be allowed

1269
00:55:07,220 --> 00:55:08,250
on that side. So there is a

1270
00:55:08,250 --> 00:55:11,000
project so there is a project

1271
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,400
not at the moment.

1272
00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:15,500
councilmember >> if I can just

1273
00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:17,900
expand on this. So obviously

1274
00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:19,600
ibm have decided to dispose

1275
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,150
of the site. There's been a

1276
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:22,100
number of conversations that

1277
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:24,300
have been in play regarding

1278
00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:25,120
this property around the future

1279
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,250
use. So as the need to be on

1280
00:55:27,250 --> 00:55:30,200
your side so the property owner

1281
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,620
ibm who owns the facility is

1282
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,220
looking to dispose of the site

1283
00:55:35,220 --> 00:55:37,100
right? So they're no longer

1284
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:38,260
continuing their operations. So

1285
00:55:38,260 --> 00:55:41,500
we've had a number of different

1286
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:42,280
groups that have inquired about

1287
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,130
different types of uses on this

1288
00:55:45,130 --> 00:55:47,170
site. So it's very typical that

1289
00:55:47,170 --> 00:55:48,280
we would see on a project like

1290
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,300
this that the applicant would

1291
00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:52,180
reason the property, you know,

1292
00:55:52,180 --> 00:55:53,230
to make it consistent with the

1293
00:55:53,230 --> 00:55:55,110
general plan and allow the full

1294
00:55:55,110 --> 00:55:57,500
range of uses. As I said

1295
00:55:57,500 --> 00:55:58,140
earlier when it was previously

1296
00:55:58,140 --> 00:56:01,000
adopted it was a very narrow

1297
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,130
pre zoning that you know just

1298
00:56:02,130 --> 00:56:03,180
included research and

1299
00:56:03,180 --> 00:56:05,110
development. So they're looking

1300
00:56:05,110 --> 00:56:06,200
to you know, maximize the

1301
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,290
opportunity through sale of the

1302
00:56:07,290 --> 00:56:09,130
site so they're going to sell

1303
00:56:09,130 --> 00:56:11,000
the property is that they are

1304
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:11,260
going to sell the property?

1305
00:56:11,260 --> 00:56:13,600
yes, that's my understanding.

1306
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,110
okay. And it would it's >> more

1307
00:56:14,110 --> 00:56:15,240
valuable if the zoning is

1308
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:18,280
different >> so that I mean I'm

1309
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,800
just wondering like what the

1310
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,400
urgency is to this. Right. And

1311
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,800
so I don't because we've been

1312
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,170
we've >> been asked we've been

1313
00:56:24,170 --> 00:56:26,417
asked to consider deferring

1314
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,200
this to allow for more and you

1315
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,190
know more the groups who are

1316
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:32,280
concerned about it more

1317
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,120
information. Right. So I'm just

1318
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,000
I'm just sort of weighing you

1319
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,200
know, if there's no urgency

1320
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,260
there are no objective planning

1321
00:56:38,260 --> 00:56:40,700
standards, you know, like

1322
00:56:40,700 --> 00:56:43,800
what's the rush? >> so you

1323
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:44,900
know, from our perspective

1324
00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:45,600
we're just trying to move

1325
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:46,600
applications through on a

1326
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:47,270
timely basis. I think as munir

1327
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:49,130
stated, I would encourage you

1328
00:56:49,130 --> 00:56:50,260
to ask that question of the

1329
00:56:50,260 --> 00:56:53,200
applicant. >> okay? And I'm

1330
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:53,280
going to give the applicant

1331
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,300
five minutes as soon as

1332
00:56:55,300 --> 00:56:57,500
council's secondary questions.

1333
00:56:57,500 --> 00:56:59,405
okay? Okay great councilmember

1334
00:57:00,700 --> 00:57:01,210
we'll wait for the applicant.

1335
00:57:01,210 --> 00:57:03,160
yeah. Okay. Any other

1336
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,416
preliminary questions? Okay. So

1337
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:08,120
as is our practice with land

1338
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,240
use items the applicant will

1339
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:11,180
have five minutes then we'll

1340
00:57:11,180 --> 00:57:13,500
go to public comment and we'll

1341
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:14,250
come back we'll come back to

1342
00:57:14,250 --> 00:57:16,250
the council. >> eric

1343
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,200
and

1344
00:58:03,140 --> 00:58:05,130
to toni. Are we just waiting to

1345
00:58:05,130 --> 00:58:06,170
get something up on the screen?

1346
00:58:06,170 --> 00:58:09,170
yes. Okay. There >> we go.

1347
00:58:13,180 --> 00:58:15,000
okay. You'll have five minutes.

1348
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,210
>> all right. Thank you, mayor

1349
00:58:16,210 --> 00:58:18,600
mehan, members of the council.

1350
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:19,230
my name is eric shay. Now I

1351
00:58:19,230 --> 00:58:22,230
represent the the >> ibm site

1352
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,200
rezoning. First of all, we want

1353
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,250
to thank city staff for all

1354
00:58:26,250 --> 00:58:27,190
their time to get the

1355
00:58:27,190 --> 00:58:30,500
application here. We have two

1356
00:58:30,500 --> 00:58:32,100
parallel goals on this effort.

1357
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:34,800
one is to preserve the open

1358
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,230
space as it exists today. No

1359
00:58:36,230 --> 00:58:38,150
changes to the open space.

1360
00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:40,200
second, to allow the industrial

1361
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,290
site to be put back into

1362
00:58:42,290 --> 00:58:45,200
economic use in an efficient

1363
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,402
manner >> quickly >> a vacant

1364
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,500
site would be susceptible >> to

1365
00:58:51,500 --> 00:58:53,230
vandalism and homeless starting

1366
00:58:53,230 --> 00:58:55,100
fires in the building which we

1367
00:58:55,100 --> 00:58:58,000
experience all over our city on

1368
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,250
the screen. On the left >> is

1369
00:59:00,250 --> 00:59:02,190
the existing general plan which

1370
00:59:02,190 --> 00:59:05,110
is 565 acres of open space and

1371
00:59:05,110 --> 00:59:07,170
35 acres of industrial. On the

1372
00:59:07,170 --> 00:59:09,280
right is our proposed zoning

1373
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,428
exactly the same 565 acres

1374
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,150
of open space and 35 acres

1375
00:59:15,150 --> 00:59:17,100
of industrial park. This is

1376
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:20,610
from the staff report. >> it's

1377
00:59:21,150 --> 00:59:23,230
appropriate to follow the

1378
00:59:23,230 --> 00:59:25,100
adopted general plan of the

1379
00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:27,130
city and the adopted zoning

1380
00:59:27,130 --> 00:59:29,000
code of the city. The image on

1381
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,150
the screen is the san jose

1382
00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:33,200
zoning code. What it says is

1383
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,500
when the general plan

1384
00:59:34,500 --> 00:59:36,500
designation is industrial park

1385
00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:38,110
which the 35 acres is then the

1386
00:59:38,110 --> 00:59:40,190
zoning should be ip on the

1387
00:59:40,190 --> 00:59:42,160
right side of the screen when

1388
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,700
the general plant is open space

1389
00:59:45,700 --> 00:59:47,160
parkland and habitat then the

1390
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,900
zoning should be open space ohs

1391
00:59:50,900 --> 00:59:51,270
zoning on the right side of the

1392
00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:54,140
screen. So all this request is

1393
00:59:54,140 --> 00:59:57,614
is to align the >> zoning with

1394
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,600
the general plan. >> why is

1395
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,210
this important? The property

1396
01:00:03,210 --> 01:00:05,600
needs to be brought into the

1397
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:06,270
21st century. This is

1398
01:00:06,270 --> 01:00:08,250
specialized zoning for ibm was

1399
01:00:08,250 --> 01:00:11,200
adopted back in the 80s and is

1400
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,420
very narrow >> just for

1401
01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:16,160
research and parking. And this

1402
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,160
document looks like this image

1403
01:00:19,230 --> 01:00:21,180
is the actual >> general

1404
01:00:21,180 --> 01:00:22,180
development plan from the

1405
01:00:22,180 --> 01:00:24,130
zoning as you can >> see very

1406
01:00:24,130 --> 01:00:26,120
crude, very simple and it

1407
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,180
leaves a lot of opportunities

1408
01:00:27,180 --> 01:00:30,700
off the table. So here are the

1409
01:00:30,700 --> 01:00:32,190
challenges and the protections

1410
01:00:32,190 --> 01:00:34,200
to attract investment and

1411
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,150
financing. We have to have a

1412
01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:38,130
logical and predictable process

1413
01:00:38,130 --> 01:00:40,600
with no risks or roadblocks.

1414
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,900
the current >> pd zoning is too

1415
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:44,260
limited it just says research

1416
01:00:44,260 --> 01:00:46,250
leaving things off the table

1417
01:00:46,250 --> 01:00:48,210
and it's uncertain about what

1418
01:00:48,210 --> 01:00:49,280
the city would allow under

1419
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,280
research and 17 acres

1420
01:00:52,100 --> 01:00:53,250
of parking that we probably

1421
01:00:53,250 --> 01:00:56,170
don't need anymore sample uses

1422
01:00:56,170 --> 01:00:58,170
in the current zoning >>

1423
01:00:58,170 --> 01:01:00,150
code that wouldn't be allowed

1424
01:01:00,150 --> 01:01:03,615
in >> the in the pd zoning >>

1425
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,130
laboratory processing light

1426
01:01:06,130 --> 01:01:07,250
manufacturing and assembly

1427
01:01:07,250 --> 01:01:09,230
general office r&d office

1428
01:01:09,230 --> 01:01:12,500
medical office those >> are all

1429
01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:13,700
reasonable things that could be

1430
01:01:13,700 --> 01:01:14,900
done on this property but you

1431
01:01:14,900 --> 01:01:15,270
can't do it under the current

1432
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:18,150
zoning. It's important to note

1433
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:20,800
that any future >> proposals

1434
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:21,600
that are special use or

1435
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,230
conditional use would require

1436
01:01:23,230 --> 01:01:25,150
community engagement >> a

1437
01:01:25,150 --> 01:01:27,800
sequel review process, city

1438
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,170
department review and public

1439
01:01:29,170 --> 01:01:31,417
hearing any >> future sequel

1440
01:01:32,900 --> 01:01:34,300
appeals on any of these future

1441
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:35,240
decisions are appealable to the

1442
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,100
city council. So in the end

1443
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:38,240
of the day the city council is

1444
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,110
in control and you have final

1445
01:01:40,110 --> 01:01:41,130
say what happens on the

1446
01:01:41,130 --> 01:01:44,000
property >> as far as zoning

1447
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,400
and general plan only the city

1448
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,110
council can ever change the

1449
01:01:48,110 --> 01:01:49,290
zoning in the general plan. So

1450
01:01:49,290 --> 01:01:52,629
if the zoning >> is open space

1451
01:01:53,900 --> 01:01:55,150
it remains open space until the

1452
01:01:55,150 --> 01:01:58,100
city council says otherwise. So

1453
01:01:58,100 --> 01:02:01,300
today the council can >> make a

1454
01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:02,190
clear statement by approving

1455
01:02:02,190 --> 01:02:04,300
this zoning that you want to

1456
01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:07,100
keep the 565 acres as open

1457
01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:10,100
space and >> you want >> the

1458
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,500
industrial park area to be

1459
01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:14,200
successful by allowing it to

1460
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,420
have modern zoning standards

1461
01:02:18,140 --> 01:02:19,210
that the modern world will

1462
01:02:19,210 --> 01:02:22,700
invest in. That's the urgency

1463
01:02:22,700 --> 01:02:24,400
is we're trying to attract

1464
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,190
investment and financing so

1465
01:02:26,190 --> 01:02:28,300
that this property can be

1466
01:02:28,300 --> 01:02:30,400
repurposed since it's an old

1467
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:31,140
property it can take a lot

1468
01:02:31,140 --> 01:02:33,100
of investment, a lot of work.

1469
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:34,260
so that's the urgency so that

1470
01:02:34,260 --> 01:02:36,600
we can move the project and not

1471
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:37,260
have an empty building out in

1472
01:02:37,260 --> 01:02:39,120
the open space that catches

1473
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,600
fire and endangers the open

1474
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:42,270
space and the city and the

1475
01:02:42,270 --> 01:02:44,180
neighborhood. With that I'm

1476
01:02:44,180 --> 01:02:46,700
available for any questions and

1477
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:47,000
I've been involved with this

1478
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,110
site for decades. I was council

1479
01:02:49,110 --> 01:02:50,210
member >> dan doe's chief

1480
01:02:50,210 --> 01:02:52,280
of staff when the housing

1481
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,160
proposal came forward in 98 and

1482
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,120
99 and so I know all about the

1483
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,600
promise of open space and what

1484
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:00,130
that all means. I'm happy to

1485
01:03:00,130 --> 01:03:01,170
give you that perspective if

1486
01:03:01,170 --> 01:03:04,270
you'd like. Thank you. Okay.

1487
01:03:04,270 --> 01:03:07,200
thank you. So for the applicant

1488
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,600
I suggest we go to public

1489
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:10,900
comment and come back for

1490
01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:11,260
council discussion in a motion

1491
01:03:11,260 --> 01:03:13,150
if that's if that's okay. Toni,

1492
01:03:13,150 --> 01:03:14,180
do you have comment cards on

1493
01:03:14,180 --> 01:03:17,120
this item? Yes, I have several.

1494
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,280
let me read as a reminder

1495
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:20,280
speakers must comply with the

1496
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,200
city's code of conduct for

1497
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,900
public meetings. Please direct

1498
01:03:23,900 --> 01:03:24,150
comments to the body limit

1499
01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:26,000
remarks to the agenda item and

1500
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,240
observe the time limit conduct

1501
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,200
that materially disrupts the

1502
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,300
meeting or interferes with

1503
01:03:30,300 --> 01:03:31,200
others ability to participate

1504
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:32,240
may result in meeting or

1505
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,000
removal as authorized by law.

1506
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,200
if you're participating by

1507
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,110
telephone press star nine to

1508
01:03:37,110 --> 01:03:39,170
raise your hand. Additionally

1509
01:03:39,170 --> 01:03:42,170
we have about 30 speakers for

1510
01:03:42,260 --> 01:03:45,100
this item so we're asking that

1511
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:46,110
instead of applause that you

1512
01:03:46,110 --> 01:03:48,500
show your support visually such

1513
01:03:48,500 --> 01:03:50,800
as jazz hands or thumbs up. So

1514
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,200
that the speakers further down

1515
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,200
the line don't have to wait

1516
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,200
extra time for toni. Let

1517
01:03:55,250 --> 01:03:56,240
me emphasize that point. We

1518
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,600
have a lot of folks here today

1519
01:03:58,600 --> 01:03:58,260
and particularly on the

1520
01:03:58,260 --> 01:03:59,280
following item we're going to

1521
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,180
have a lot of strong emotions

1522
01:04:01,180 --> 01:04:02,220
for and against and it's going

1523
01:04:02,220 --> 01:04:04,120
to be a robust discussion in

1524
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,500
the interest of respecting

1525
01:04:06,500 --> 01:04:07,120
everyone's first amendment

1526
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,600
rights, allowing us to get to

1527
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:10,180
that item and actually get out

1528
01:04:10,180 --> 01:04:11,230
of here before midnight and

1529
01:04:11,230 --> 01:04:13,190
have an efficient meeting. We

1530
01:04:13,190 --> 01:04:16,260
always ask folks to not cheer

1531
01:04:16,260 --> 01:04:18,280
or boo or just if you really

1532
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,900
want to show your support you

1533
01:04:20,900 --> 01:04:22,200
can do this or whatever it is

1534
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:23,400
you want to do but we want to

1535
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:24,120
get through the meeting and not

1536
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,220
keep you here all day. But we

1537
01:04:25,220 --> 01:04:27,300
do want to hear from you and we

1538
01:04:27,300 --> 01:04:28,000
don't want anyone to feel

1539
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,170
pressured or intimidated. So

1540
01:04:29,170 --> 01:04:31,200
please note sharing or booing

1541
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,140
let's let toni do her job and

1542
01:04:32,140 --> 01:04:33,100
let's get through public

1543
01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:35,300
comment. Go ahead, toni. Okay,

1544
01:04:35,300 --> 01:04:36,000
I'm >> going to call about five

1545
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,400
names when you hear your name

1546
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:38,100
go ahead and come on down.

1547
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:39,220
first person to the microphone.

1548
01:04:39,220 --> 01:04:41,100
go ahead and speak. You do not

1549
01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:42,120
have to speak in the order that

1550
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,900
you're called. Evan brooks

1551
01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:48,900
jessica larry ames, john come

1552
01:04:52,900 --> 01:04:54,500
on. If your name is hurt, if

1553
01:04:54,500 --> 01:04:55,900
you heard your name, go ahead

1554
01:04:55,900 --> 01:04:56,270
and line up over here. First

1555
01:04:56,270 --> 01:04:58,230
person in the microphone john

1556
01:04:58,230 --> 01:05:01,230
leavitt and cindy h. >> evan

1557
01:05:04,700 --> 01:05:05,130
brooks, adjoining property

1558
01:05:05,130 --> 01:05:07,500
owner. I want to address one

1559
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:09,500
claim that the existing zoning

1560
01:05:09,500 --> 01:05:10,200
and the proposed zoning protect

1561
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,500
this open space equally they do

1562
01:05:12,500 --> 01:05:14,100
not. Under the current pd

1563
01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:16,110
zoning ibm's own application

1564
01:05:16,110 --> 01:05:18,110
allocates 569 acres exclusively

1565
01:05:19,130 --> 01:05:21,160
to open space adding any other

1566
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,170
use means amending the pd a

1567
01:05:23,170 --> 01:05:24,270
noticed hearing and a vote

1568
01:05:24,270 --> 01:05:26,180
of this council after the

1569
01:05:26,180 --> 01:05:27,280
rezoning the governing list

1570
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,210
becomes the zoning codes

1571
01:05:29,210 --> 01:05:31,200
citywide use >> table for the

1572
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,150
district grading and earth

1573
01:05:33,150 --> 01:05:35,140
removal mineral extraction and

1574
01:05:35,140 --> 01:05:37,600
quarrying golf courses and

1575
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:38,200
shooting ranges are conditional

1576
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,210
uses. They're requiring only a

1577
01:05:40,210 --> 01:05:41,280
use permit from the planning

1578
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,200
commission and it reaches you

1579
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,170
only if someone appeals and

1580
01:05:45,170 --> 01:05:47,200
only a property owner within

1581
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,700
1000ft can appeal. Now that's

1582
01:05:49,700 --> 01:05:51,200
roughly 200 addresses and in

1583
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,200
1999 alone 1250 residents

1584
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,100
signed petitions about this

1585
01:05:55,100 --> 01:05:57,240
land. So today changing the use

1586
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,160
of this hillside takes a vote

1587
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,400
of this body. Tomorrow it takes

1588
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:02,260
a use permit. This is not

1589
01:06:02,260 --> 01:06:04,000
equivalent. Please don't

1590
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,130
approve this without a recorded

1591
01:06:05,130 --> 01:06:07,000
is >> that your time next

1592
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,270
speaker I'm dan from d10. Come

1593
01:06:09,270 --> 01:06:11,220
on down and >> eric you're eric

1594
01:06:11,220 --> 01:06:15,240
or he spoke and monie >> I'm

1595
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,160
jessica and I wrote all of you

1596
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,500
asking that this rezoning

1597
01:06:19,500 --> 01:06:21,100
request be paused what is being

1598
01:06:21,100 --> 01:06:22,220
presented as a simple

1599
01:06:22,220 --> 01:06:24,150
conforming rezoning is more

1600
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:26,100
nuanced and has many impacts

1601
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:28,110
both to the open space and to

1602
01:06:28,110 --> 01:06:30,100
the industrial portions. In

1603
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:32,270
december 1999 our city council

1604
01:06:32,270 --> 01:06:34,170
approved a motion to find a way

1605
01:06:34,170 --> 01:06:36,150
to protect ibm's open space in

1606
01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:38,415
perpetuity. Sadly that prior

1607
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:40,210
counsel failed >> to complete

1608
01:06:40,210 --> 01:06:42,240
what it started but you must do

1609
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,200
better in 2026. Do not make the

1610
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,180
mistake of equating open space

1611
01:06:47,180 --> 01:06:49,300
zoning with permanent

1612
01:06:49,300 --> 01:06:51,130
protection. The word permanent

1613
01:06:51,130 --> 01:06:53,700
>> means nothing if the open

1614
01:06:53,700 --> 01:06:55,200
space is not legally tied to a

1615
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,120
conservation easement, a land

1616
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:58,160
trust or other binding

1617
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,170
protection with no immediate

1618
01:07:00,170 --> 01:07:02,600
development proposal pending

1619
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,400
you have the time to secure the

1620
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,180
open space permanently for

1621
01:07:05,180 --> 01:07:07,180
future >> generations. Pause

1622
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:09,100
the request now so that the

1623
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:11,300
environmental, legal and land

1624
01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:13,300
use issues at stake get the

1625
01:07:13,300 --> 01:07:14,260
proper attention by city

1626
01:07:14,260 --> 01:07:16,426
leadership and the public.

1627
01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:20,180
thank you. Next speaker >> lena

1628
01:07:20,180 --> 01:07:23,618
come on down and america, your

1629
01:07:25,220 --> 01:07:27,160
letter >> your mike there you

1630
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,800
go. This is on now. Okay. Larry

1631
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:31,260
ames, I'm just here to make

1632
01:07:31,260 --> 01:07:32,260
sure that you consider this

1633
01:07:32,260 --> 01:07:35,900
property some I want to see the

1634
01:07:35,900 --> 01:07:36,290
open space preserved and if

1635
01:07:36,290 --> 01:07:38,900
it's just sound this way you

1636
01:07:38,900 --> 01:07:39,100
can change at any given

1637
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:40,160
tuesday. So I want to see you

1638
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,110
have an easement for >> it also

1639
01:07:43,110 --> 01:07:45,100
the development has to be in a

1640
01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:47,900
certain place. You don't want

1641
01:07:47,900 --> 01:07:48,140
to shift around any place up

1642
01:07:48,140 --> 01:07:49,800
there. It's right now it's

1643
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,140
sheltered in a dip in the top

1644
01:07:51,140 --> 01:07:53,700
of mountains so it's hidden

1645
01:07:53,700 --> 01:07:54,160
from the surrounding areas so I

1646
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,130
don't want it built anyplace

1647
01:07:56,130 --> 01:07:57,270
else other than there. I just

1648
01:07:57,270 --> 01:07:58,260
want to see you consider

1649
01:07:58,260 --> 01:07:59,260
listing property. You do not

1650
01:07:59,260 --> 01:08:00,250
want to be rushed through >>

1651
01:08:00,250 --> 01:08:03,250
here. Thank you. Thank you.

1652
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,120
next >> speaker now go ahead.

1653
01:08:21,220 --> 01:08:23,700
I'm >> a resident of district

1654
01:08:23,700 --> 01:08:26,000
ten in almaden. I strongly

1655
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,170
opposed the rezoning of the

1656
01:08:27,170 --> 01:08:30,150
property at its six 650 harry

1657
01:08:30,150 --> 01:08:32,280
road rezoning more than 600

1658
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,260
acres of open space ibm land

1659
01:08:35,260 --> 01:08:37,120
break the city council's

1660
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,120
original amendment commitment

1661
01:08:39,190 --> 01:08:40,240
to keep this land as a

1662
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,230
permanent open space and

1663
01:08:42,230 --> 01:08:44,140
disregards >> the clear

1664
01:08:44,140 --> 01:08:45,280
opposition of the almaden

1665
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,280
community. Although no formal

1666
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,290
easement currently exists, the

1667
01:08:49,290 --> 01:08:52,130
responsible step is to defer

1668
01:08:52,130 --> 01:08:54,110
any decision until council

1669
01:08:54,110 --> 01:08:56,110
finalize the 1999 motion

1670
01:08:56,270 --> 01:08:58,140
protecting this land in

1671
01:08:58,140 --> 01:09:00,210
perpetuity with the same

1672
01:09:00,210 --> 01:09:02,220
concern applied to the 35 acre

1673
01:09:02,220 --> 01:09:04,110
proposed for industrial park

1674
01:09:04,110 --> 01:09:07,600
use. I'd respectfully ask that

1675
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:08,220
this item be removed from the

1676
01:09:08,220 --> 01:09:10,200
consent calendar so the public

1677
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,270
can foley participate. Please

1678
01:09:12,270 --> 01:09:15,400
read postpone action until the

1679
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:16,210
permanent open space

1680
01:09:16,210 --> 01:09:18,220
protections the data center and

1681
01:09:18,220 --> 01:09:20,400
large energy project

1682
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,800
regulations are complete by

1683
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,600
this this you got your time

1684
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,270
help helen >> brock come on

1685
01:09:26,270 --> 01:09:29,270
down and carol peacefully dear

1686
01:09:35,260 --> 01:09:38,200
leaders I am dan from d-10

1687
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:39,250
please vote no to the proposed

1688
01:09:39,250 --> 01:09:41,425
rezoning of 650 harry road

1689
01:09:42,100 --> 01:09:44,900
san jose urgently needs to set

1690
01:09:44,900 --> 01:09:45,140
some standards to protect

1691
01:09:45,140 --> 01:09:46,250
residents from water and power

1692
01:09:46,250 --> 01:09:48,130
supply problems before we

1693
01:09:48,130 --> 01:09:49,290
continue permitting large data

1694
01:09:49,290 --> 01:09:51,180
centers or other redevelopment

1695
01:09:51,180 --> 01:09:53,120
to harry road where allowed >>

1696
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:54,240
large data centers are driving

1697
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,900
up regional power prices

1698
01:09:56,900 --> 01:09:58,800
hurting residents out competing

1699
01:09:58,800 --> 01:09:59,260
us for water to lake tahoe

1700
01:09:59,260 --> 01:10:01,160
region residents receive 13

1701
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:02,200
months notice that their power

1702
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,150
wholesaler will cut them off

1703
01:10:04,150 --> 01:10:05,230
because of a new data center

1704
01:10:05,230 --> 01:10:07,160
customer data center owners

1705
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:08,260
must own their additional

1706
01:10:08,260 --> 01:10:10,170
generating capacity not buy it

1707
01:10:10,170 --> 01:10:12,120
on the market so residents will

1708
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,210
pay for new supply and don't

1709
01:10:13,210 --> 01:10:15,130
pay for stranded generators

1710
01:10:15,130 --> 01:10:17,250
when the data centers shut down

1711
01:10:17,250 --> 01:10:19,170
water is critically short

1712
01:10:19,170 --> 01:10:20,280
supply so only closed loop

1713
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,900
water circuits should ever be

1714
01:10:22,900 --> 01:10:24,600
approved. Okay, let's not have

1715
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:25,200
a toxic release like erin

1716
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,200
brockovich story. Okay.

1717
01:10:28,900 --> 01:10:29,160
san jose needs an emergency

1718
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,160
project to define mitigation

1719
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:32,210
for data centers over a

1720
01:10:32,210 --> 01:10:34,240
megawatt and should not rezone

1721
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,210
to accommodate them until these

1722
01:10:36,210 --> 01:10:39,290
are in place. Thank you. Next

1723
01:10:39,290 --> 01:10:42,220
speaker. Josephine come on down

1724
01:10:42,220 --> 01:10:44,000
and then I have an anonymous

1725
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,600
card. Please do not vote. Okay

1726
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,200
or pass on this particular

1727
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,700
item. I have no confidence in

1728
01:10:55,700 --> 01:10:57,500
the management nor the former

1729
01:10:57,500 --> 01:10:58,140
>> city council member who is

1730
01:10:58,140 --> 01:11:00,110
now a lobbyist for a real

1731
01:11:00,110 --> 01:11:02,290
estate shark that is on this

1732
01:11:02,290 --> 01:11:05,150
agenda an item such as this

1733
01:11:05,150 --> 01:11:07,100
zone change should not have

1734
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:09,160
been I agenda raised under a

1735
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,260
consent agenda which is

1736
01:11:10,260 --> 01:11:12,426
designed to escape public

1737
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,600
scrutiny. Wealthy real estate

1738
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,900
sharks deliberately bribe and

1739
01:11:17,900 --> 01:11:18,210
manipulate city government to

1740
01:11:18,210 --> 01:11:20,180
make american >> corporate fail

1741
01:11:20,180 --> 01:11:22,160
like stand most chevron

1742
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,150
headquarters disclosure I'm not

1743
01:11:25,150 --> 01:11:27,120
suicidal and I drive safely all

1744
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,412
the time. >> good afternoon

1745
01:11:35,180 --> 01:11:37,140
mayor and council members lena

1746
01:11:37,140 --> 01:11:38,700
drape with the santa clara

1747
01:11:38,700 --> 01:11:39,290
valley open space authority. We

1748
01:11:39,290 --> 01:11:41,110
are very grateful >> for

1749
01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:42,200
councilmember casey pulling

1750
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:43,150
this item and for

1751
01:11:43,150 --> 01:11:44,110
councilmember kim for asking

1752
01:11:44,110 --> 01:11:45,210
several questions at the open

1753
01:11:45,210 --> 01:11:46,270
space authority and community

1754
01:11:46,270 --> 01:11:47,260
members have shared and

1755
01:11:47,260 --> 01:11:49,426
expressed our priority is >>

1756
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,000
for request is for this item to

1757
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,170
be deferred to allow critical

1758
01:11:53,170 --> 01:11:55,230
questions to be answered first.

1759
01:11:55,230 --> 01:11:57,100
first, we asked the city to

1760
01:11:57,100 --> 01:11:58,500
address the permanent

1761
01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:00,400
protection of the 565 acre

1762
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:01,110
portion of open space on this

1763
01:12:01,110 --> 01:12:03,400
property that your council in

1764
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,100
1999 directed staff to

1765
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:06,150
permanently protect as a part

1766
01:12:06,150 --> 01:12:07,200
of mitigation for the ibm

1767
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,100
development. While we

1768
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:10,110
appreciate the confirmation

1769
01:12:10,110 --> 01:12:11,270
just previously provided from

1770
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:13,250
staff open space zoning does

1771
01:12:13,250 --> 01:12:15,300
not equate to permanent

1772
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:17,000
protection additional action is

1773
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,000
needed such as through a

1774
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,000
conservation easement. Second,

1775
01:12:20,700 --> 01:12:21,500
we understand that the city

1776
01:12:21,500 --> 01:12:22,100
needs to address general plan

1777
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:23,240
inconsistencies. But as

1778
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,120
previously alluded to there is

1779
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:26,230
no reason that a rezoning for

1780
01:12:26,230 --> 01:12:28,500
this site must occur before a

1781
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:29,140
project application as put

1782
01:12:29,140 --> 01:12:31,100
forward. Besides increasing the

1783
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:32,290
perceived developable value for

1784
01:12:32,290 --> 01:12:34,290
resale preemptively rezoning >>

1785
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:37,100
the site to enable. Thank >>

1786
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:40,140
you that your time. I'd also

1787
01:12:40,140 --> 01:12:43,614
like to call sandy down it >>

1788
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,180
please take the ibm property

1789
01:12:48,180 --> 01:12:50,800
off of the consent calendar.

1790
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:51,110
there's discussion of data

1791
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:53,300
center and as we all know or

1792
01:12:53,300 --> 01:12:54,150
have been informed data centers

1793
01:12:54,150 --> 01:12:56,170
use >> a lot of water and

1794
01:12:56,170 --> 01:12:59,100
electricity until san jose has

1795
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:00,190
the opportunity to put

1796
01:13:00,190 --> 01:13:03,500
guidelines in place to protect

1797
01:13:03,500 --> 01:13:05,120
the public from misuse of that.

1798
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,200
I'd like to see this put on

1799
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,200
taken off the consent calendar

1800
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:10,270
so that we can discuss it as

1801
01:13:10,270 --> 01:13:12,180
well as quite frankly the open

1802
01:13:12,180 --> 01:13:14,280
space. We have a critical sorry

1803
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,300
everybody >> problem with

1804
01:13:16,300 --> 01:13:18,000
housing. So before we make >> a

1805
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,600
general decision to block that

1806
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,400
property off and put in a dated

1807
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,200
for for open space and put in a

1808
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:25,120
data center, let's >> have a

1809
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,400
discussion about it all.

1810
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,400
anyway, thank you. Thank you.

1811
01:13:31,300 --> 01:13:33,260
next >> speaker, I thank you

1812
01:13:33,260 --> 01:13:35,230
for your time. I'm looking

1813
01:13:35,230 --> 01:13:39,000
at this like it's not changing

1814
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,160
the building >> structure and

1815
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:41,200
we need housing and we need

1816
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:42,260
jobs and different >> things

1817
01:13:42,260 --> 01:13:43,250
where it's not going to congest

1818
01:13:43,250 --> 01:13:44,280
the neighborhood or bring

1819
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,000
pollutants or harmful things to

1820
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,500
the community to consider maybe

1821
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:51,250
having more housing. 51% of my

1822
01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:54,250
taxes go to property taxes

1823
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,180
go >> to education. I don't

1824
01:13:57,180 --> 01:13:58,240
have a problem with that. If we

1825
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,500
can approval what the children

1826
01:14:00,500 --> 01:14:02,100
are being taught I don't want

1827
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:03,220
children being sexualized and

1828
01:14:03,220 --> 01:14:04,260
getting pregnant. I've been a

1829
01:14:04,260 --> 01:14:07,300
foster parent. I've had rehabs,

1830
01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:08,120
I've had different things. So

1831
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:09,240
if we can upgrade the community

1832
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,900
, not build big things in

1833
01:14:11,900 --> 01:14:13,400
people's backyard, the lady was

1834
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:14,900
saying that someone who's not

1835
01:14:14,900 --> 01:14:16,130
even a national proposed a 750

1836
01:14:16,130 --> 01:14:18,150
bed right next to >> her. I

1837
01:14:18,150 --> 01:14:19,150
mean think what you want to

1838
01:14:19,150 --> 01:14:21,700
live where people are and

1839
01:14:21,700 --> 01:14:22,200
there's no >> set backs. We

1840
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,270
have to be practical that's

1841
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:24,190
going to congested

1842
01:14:24,190 --> 01:14:25,160
neighborhood. There's enough

1843
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,300
open land >> that we can

1844
01:14:27,300 --> 01:14:28,400
consider it but if we can

1845
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,100
utilize this property that's

1846
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:30,200
been sitting >> there and

1847
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,280
rotting for how long? I used to

1848
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,800
work at ibm. >> thank you. That

1849
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,800
your time? Next speaker good >>

1850
01:14:42,170 --> 01:14:44,900
afternoon. My name is marni.

1851
01:14:44,900 --> 01:14:46,150
I'm an attorney and a san jose

1852
01:14:46,150 --> 01:14:48,130
resident. My work is

1853
01:14:48,130 --> 01:14:50,130
constitutional and antitrust

1854
01:14:50,130 --> 01:14:52,600
litigation which means I read

1855
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,000
regulations for a living and

1856
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,130
tell a court whether it sweeps

1857
01:14:55,130 --> 01:14:57,270
too far or too little. I've

1858
01:14:57,270 --> 01:15:00,200
read the city's proposed

1859
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,200
framework >> and I fear it's

1860
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:04,260
one that should concern this

1861
01:15:04,260 --> 01:15:06,426
council and your constituents.

1862
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,400
two gaps stand out. First,

1863
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:10,900
there's no enforcement

1864
01:15:10,900 --> 01:15:12,700
backbone. If a data center

1865
01:15:12,700 --> 01:15:13,190
violates its terms pollutes

1866
01:15:13,190 --> 01:15:15,140
water exceeds noise limits

1867
01:15:15,140 --> 01:15:17,170
there's no clear review process

1868
01:15:17,170 --> 01:15:19,220
and no real consequence.

1869
01:15:19,220 --> 01:15:21,230
second, there's no aftercare

1870
01:15:21,230 --> 01:15:23,230
provision. Nothing addresses

1871
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:25,230
what happens when an operator

1872
01:15:25,230 --> 01:15:28,623
simply decides to up and leave.

1873
01:15:29,500 --> 01:15:30,240
so my question to this city

1874
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,424
council is what regulatory

1875
01:15:33,500 --> 01:15:35,270
story do you >> want to tell?

1876
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:37,250
thank you. >> thank you. Next

1877
01:15:37,250 --> 01:15:40,250
speaker. Yeah. This city has

1878
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,150
lobbied sacramento for speed

1879
01:15:45,150 --> 01:15:47,900
cameras, red light cameras,

1880
01:15:47,900 --> 01:15:49,100
road diets, flock cameras and

1881
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:50,260
everything else. What >> you

1882
01:15:50,260 --> 01:15:53,160
need to lobby sacramento for is

1883
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,160
a better utility grid. Pagani

1884
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,200
doesn't have it. Everybody

1885
01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:59,280
knows it. If you think that

1886
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,600
you're >> going to run a data

1887
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,170
center here. I got it. I

1888
01:16:03,170 --> 01:16:04,270
got a bridge to sell you. It's

1889
01:16:04,270 --> 01:16:06,500
not >> going to work. I saw a

1890
01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:08,700
smile from the mayor there. And

1891
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:09,200
yeah, I mean you don't have you

1892
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,100
can't even turn a fan on when

1893
01:16:11,100 --> 01:16:12,150
it gets hot and your power goes

1894
01:16:12,150 --> 01:16:14,000
out. Do you really think you're

1895
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,260
going to build this? I mean >>

1896
01:16:15,260 --> 01:16:18,700
it sounds great. I mean imagine

1897
01:16:18,700 --> 01:16:19,130
the water bill they're going to

1898
01:16:19,130 --> 01:16:21,200
get. Anybody got their water

1899
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,200
bill >> lately with $150

1900
01:16:23,900 --> 01:16:25,200
surcharge? Can't imagine what

1901
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:26,100
it would be like for a data

1902
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:27,800
center. Oh yeah. They're going

1903
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,300
to recycle the water. Sure they

1904
01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:30,220
are. Right. It's not >> going

1905
01:16:30,220 --> 01:16:32,130
to work. You know what? Maybe

1906
01:16:32,130 --> 01:16:33,260
turn this place into a data

1907
01:16:33,260 --> 01:16:35,900
center? I don't know. But

1908
01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:37,210
anyway, everybody vote no on

1909
01:16:37,210 --> 01:16:39,260
new data centers until you have

1910
01:16:39,260 --> 01:16:41,210
proper >> electro proper

1911
01:16:41,210 --> 01:16:43,130
electrical grid. It's >> just

1912
01:16:43,130 --> 01:16:45,280
that simple. That's your time.

1913
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,260
next speaker I've called all

1914
01:16:47,260 --> 01:16:49,000
of the in-person cards that I

1915
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,140
received for this item. If you

1916
01:16:50,140 --> 01:16:51,250
did not hear your name please

1917
01:16:51,250 --> 01:16:53,200
line up. I'm going to move on

1918
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,260
to the virtual commenters next.

1919
01:16:55,260 --> 01:16:57,260
go >> ahead. Hello, my name is

1920
01:16:57,260 --> 01:16:59,120
sandy and I'm a long term

1921
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,180
resident of almaden valley.

1922
01:17:01,180 --> 01:17:03,000
first I want to thank council

1923
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,800
member casey for hearing the

1924
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,300
voices of your constituents and

1925
01:17:08,300 --> 01:17:09,270
removing the proposed rezoning

1926
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:12,110
of 650 harry from the consent

1927
01:17:12,110 --> 01:17:15,500
calendar and allowing for some

1928
01:17:15,500 --> 01:17:17,405
public >> discussion. However I

1929
01:17:18,180 --> 01:17:20,260
want >> everyone to know that I

1930
01:17:20,260 --> 01:17:23,260
am still very concerned >> that

1931
01:17:24,500 --> 01:17:26,270
we may be making a decision

1932
01:17:26,270 --> 01:17:30,500
today. I would like to thank I

1933
01:17:30,500 --> 01:17:32,500
think it was councilmember may

1934
01:17:32,500 --> 01:17:34,000
>> for asking some astute

1935
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,000
questions. Thank you. But the

1936
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:41,212
issue is one of many that many

1937
01:17:42,500 --> 01:17:44,160
or a significant number

1938
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,400
of aluminum valley residents

1939
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,600
are still not aware of this

1940
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,130
rezoning or even this meeting

1941
01:17:50,130 --> 01:17:54,110
today. I >> am one of less than

1942
01:17:54,110 --> 01:17:56,220
100 people >> who received the

1943
01:17:56,220 --> 01:17:58,422
postcard at the >> start

1944
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,180
of good time. I'm steve. Come

1945
01:18:03,180 --> 01:18:05,180
on down

1946
01:18:14,250 --> 01:18:17,625
. >> my name is steve martin. I

1947
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,250
am a geothermal developer. I'm

1948
01:18:21,250 --> 01:18:24,240
manoora educated redneck with a

1949
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:25,280
couple of bachelors from

1950
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,428
stanford and I developed

1951
01:18:28,900 --> 01:18:31,300
geothermal power the last year

1952
01:18:31,300 --> 01:18:32,220
thermal plant I developed in

1953
01:18:32,220 --> 01:18:34,120
nevada is supplying power to

1954
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,250
sacramento. The reason I bring

1955
01:18:36,250 --> 01:18:39,170
this up today is that this

1956
01:18:39,170 --> 01:18:41,417
rezoning issue deals with

1957
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:43,230
carbon because we don't know

1958
01:18:43,230 --> 01:18:46,623
who the bidder or the contract

1959
01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:49,190
party is. We're not sure what's

1960
01:18:49,190 --> 01:18:51,000
going to happen in terms of the

1961
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:52,250
power source for the data

1962
01:18:52,250 --> 01:18:54,500
center that they intend to put

1963
01:18:54,500 --> 01:18:56,210
in there. We want to know if we

1964
01:18:56,210 --> 01:18:59,250
can here today who the bidder

1965
01:18:59,250 --> 01:19:02,220
will be and I have provided for

1966
01:19:02,220 --> 01:19:05,622
the council's view some things

1967
01:19:06,270 --> 01:19:08,400
that would happen if there were

1968
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,900
a new bidder that had a very

1969
01:19:11,900 --> 01:19:13,280
progressive program to offer.

1970
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,150
so I've listed the kinds

1971
01:19:15,150 --> 01:19:16,290
of things that we would propose

1972
01:19:16,290 --> 01:19:20,160
to do out there which would add

1973
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:21,140
thank >> you that your time

1974
01:19:21,140 --> 01:19:24,300
next speaker I'm sorry that

1975
01:19:24,300 --> 01:19:27,603
your time. Hello, my >> name is

1976
01:19:33,170 --> 01:19:34,260
jasmine jordan. I would like to

1977
01:19:34,260 --> 01:19:36,400
remind this council and the

1978
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:37,160
mayor of their responsibility

1979
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,200
to their constituents and not

1980
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:40,200
to corporate spokespeople like

1981
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,280
eric shen over of ibm during

1982
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,300
his five minutes of speaking he

1983
01:19:46,300 --> 01:19:48,100
focused on the point that the

1984
01:19:48,100 --> 01:19:50,260
acreage of the ibm industrial

1985
01:19:50,260 --> 01:19:53,900
park will remain the same. But

1986
01:19:53,900 --> 01:19:54,200
that does not mean that the

1987
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,130
energy usage of the proposed

1988
01:19:57,130 --> 01:19:58,250
whatever it is will stay the

1989
01:19:58,250 --> 01:20:01,200
same. He wants to speed up

1990
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,240
rezoning for some project but

1991
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,150
he did not specify what and he

1992
01:20:05,150 --> 01:20:06,250
wants it to pass before

1993
01:20:06,250 --> 01:20:08,290
regulations. I would like to

1994
01:20:08,290 --> 01:20:11,200
urge this council to put a

1995
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,200
pause on this rezoning until

1996
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,240
after regulations are passed.

1997
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,140
he mentioned bringing into

1998
01:20:17,140 --> 01:20:19,110
modern times and tax revenue

1999
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:21,170
investment we can also generate

2000
01:20:21,170 --> 01:20:23,900
tax revenue from increasing a

2001
01:20:23,900 --> 01:20:25,170
corporate tax and on

2002
01:20:25,170 --> 01:20:27,140
billionaires. Yeah that's it.

2003
01:20:27,140 --> 01:20:30,300
thank you. Thank you, mr.

2004
01:20:30,300 --> 01:20:31,270
speaker. When I go to public

2005
01:20:31,270 --> 01:20:33,170
comment brian it will be

2006
01:20:33,170 --> 01:20:36,500
followed by alice. So brian

2007
01:20:36,500 --> 01:20:39,230
at home be prepared. Go ahead.

2008
01:20:39,230 --> 01:20:41,270
hello. >> there has been a lot

2009
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:43,300
of secrecy around the

2010
01:20:43,300 --> 01:20:44,240
development of the data centers

2011
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,110
over the past several months if

2012
01:20:46,110 --> 01:20:49,160
not years. At first it was. Are

2013
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,200
there any applicants? No, there

2014
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:52,200
aren't any applicants. But

2015
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:53,600
here's the applicant. He's

2016
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:54,600
going to speak for five

2017
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,200
minutes. Clearly data centers

2018
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,200
are being discussed and

2019
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,170
developed outside of public

2020
01:21:00,170 --> 01:21:01,160
meetings and private

2021
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,100
conversations without public

2022
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:04,270
input. Rezoning is already

2023
01:21:04,270 --> 01:21:05,280
being moved to the table

2024
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,428
without any applicants without

2025
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,190
any applications. The public

2026
01:21:10,190 --> 01:21:13,100
needs to have not just input.

2027
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:14,210
they need to have decision on

2028
01:21:14,210 --> 01:21:15,280
whether data centers are built

2029
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,270
in >> their communities. Just

2030
01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:18,240
>> saying oh we're going to

2031
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,170
have a public input that can

2032
01:21:20,170 --> 01:21:21,190
mean a lot of things. I've been

2033
01:21:21,190 --> 01:21:23,500
part of public input sessions.

2034
01:21:23,500 --> 01:21:25,900
they're very small. They don't

2035
01:21:25,900 --> 01:21:27,700
do a lot and it's not

2036
01:21:27,700 --> 01:21:28,130
guaranteed that public input

2037
01:21:28,130 --> 01:21:30,180
will be taken into account. So

2038
01:21:30,180 --> 01:21:32,000
please hold off on rezoning

2039
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,000
this. Thank you. >> thank you,

2040
01:21:37,150 --> 01:21:41,215
brian. First of all, if you use

2041
01:21:44,500 --> 01:21:45,230
a cell phone or you youtube or

2042
01:21:45,230 --> 01:21:47,100
anything else or stuff like

2043
01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:49,700
this if you're using a data

2044
01:21:49,700 --> 01:21:51,120
center. So we eventually have

2045
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,700
to find a way to I agree it

2046
01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:54,100
shouldn't have been put on the

2047
01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:55,240
consent calendar. Thank you for

2048
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,000
pulling that off you. When I

2049
01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:59,700
saw that it was being pulled

2050
01:21:59,700 --> 01:22:01,200
off and the consent calendar I

2051
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:02,280
almost fell out of my chair

2052
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,140
here because usually I don't

2053
01:22:04,140 --> 01:22:06,100
think people read the letters

2054
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:09,600
and that's something I wish I I

2055
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,160
don't know. Toni has a hard job

2056
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:11,140
so I appreciate what you're

2057
01:22:11,140 --> 01:22:14,000
trying to do. My email said

2058
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:14,270
that and everybody else that

2059
01:22:14,270 --> 01:22:16,000
far better than I did. Thank

2060
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,600
you >> alice followed by alec I

2061
01:22:26,210 --> 01:22:27,220
good afternoon may or may

2062
01:22:27,220 --> 01:22:29,000
hammond council members this is

2063
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,170
alice kaufman for green

2064
01:22:30,170 --> 01:22:32,220
foothills and I want to bring

2065
01:22:32,220 --> 01:22:34,000
your attention to an issue that

2066
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,400
has not been mentioned yet and

2067
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:37,300
we mentioned it in a letter

2068
01:22:37,300 --> 01:22:38,190
that we submitted but with all

2069
01:22:38,190 --> 01:22:39,200
the public comment you may not

2070
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,220
have seen it. So there is a new

2071
01:22:41,220 --> 01:22:44,220
state law sb 131 which creates

2072
01:22:44,220 --> 01:22:46,190
a total exemption from sequel

2073
01:22:46,190 --> 01:22:48,200
for advanced manufacturing

2074
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,000
facilities but only if they are

2075
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,260
located on industrially zoned

2076
01:22:51,260 --> 01:22:53,180
parcels. So under the current

2077
01:22:53,180 --> 01:22:56,000
pd zoning this total exemption

2078
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,240
does not apply but once it's

2079
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,150
rezone to industrial park it

2080
01:22:59,150 --> 01:23:01,230
would apply and this advanced

2081
01:23:01,230 --> 01:23:03,100
manufacturing facility

2082
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:04,290
exemption is an extremely broad

2083
01:23:04,290 --> 01:23:06,240
and vague category of uses. It

2084
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,300
includes metal recycling,

2085
01:23:08,300 --> 01:23:09,260
semiconductor manufacturing,

2086
01:23:09,260 --> 01:23:11,260
lithium battery manufacturing,

2087
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,100
aerospace and defense

2088
01:23:13,100 --> 01:23:15,110
manufacturing and more. So this

2089
01:23:15,110 --> 01:23:16,280
is why we're asking for this

2090
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,220
item to move forward. We really

2091
01:23:18,220 --> 01:23:20,300
want to work with staff to

2092
01:23:20,300 --> 01:23:21,200
figure out a way to make sure

2093
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,700
that square will continue to

2094
01:23:23,700 --> 01:23:25,900
apply to a project as was

2095
01:23:25,900 --> 01:23:26,160
stated previously that it would

2096
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,416
apply. Thank you >> alec

2097
01:23:29,150 --> 01:23:31,415
followed by dashiell. >> hello.

2098
01:23:35,150 --> 01:23:36,220
I support permanently

2099
01:23:36,220 --> 01:23:38,300
protecting the open space

2100
01:23:38,300 --> 01:23:39,290
surrounding the former ibm site

2101
01:23:39,290 --> 01:23:41,500
but that is not all that this

2102
01:23:41,500 --> 01:23:42,250
rezoning would do. While

2103
01:23:42,250 --> 01:23:44,250
approximately 565 acres would

2104
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:46,260
receive the open space zoning,

2105
01:23:46,260 --> 01:23:48,250
another 35 acres would receive

2106
01:23:48,250 --> 01:23:50,260
broader industrial park zoning

2107
01:23:50,260 --> 01:23:52,100
which could open the door to

2108
01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:53,120
manufacturing advanced

2109
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,250
manufacturing or even a data

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01:23:54,250 --> 01:23:56,180
center with a special use

2111
01:23:56,180 --> 01:23:58,110
permit. At the same time the

2112
01:23:58,110 --> 01:23:59,190
city would eliminate more than

2113
01:23:59,190 --> 01:24:01,290
40 years of site specific plans

2114
01:24:01,290 --> 01:24:03,140
development controls without

2115
01:24:03,140 --> 01:24:04,270
telling the public exactly what

2116
01:24:04,270 --> 01:24:06,230
protections would be lost. We

2117
01:24:06,230 --> 01:24:07,270
also do not know whether the

2118
01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:09,400
city ever fulfilled its

2119
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:10,270
commitment to secure permanent

2120
01:24:10,270 --> 01:24:11,280
legal protection from the

2121
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,230
surrounding open space, open

2122
01:24:13,230 --> 01:24:15,600
space zoning alone is not

2123
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:16,500
permanent. There's no

2124
01:24:16,500 --> 01:24:17,500
development application

2125
01:24:17,500 --> 01:24:17,270
pending. There's no

2126
01:24:17,270 --> 01:24:19,140
demonstrated urgency and once

2127
01:24:19,140 --> 01:24:20,290
these protections are removed

2128
01:24:20,290 --> 01:24:22,290
recovering them is difficult.

2129
01:24:22,290 --> 01:24:24,300
please remove this item from

2130
01:24:24,300 --> 01:24:25,260
the consents and delay rezoning

2131
01:24:25,260 --> 01:24:27,100
until the existing protections

2132
01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:28,270
environmental consequences

2133
01:24:28,270 --> 01:24:30,100
access road restrictions and

2134
01:24:30,100 --> 01:24:31,150
permanent preservation of the

2135
01:24:31,150 --> 01:24:33,150
open space are foley addressed.

2136
01:24:33,150 --> 01:24:34,180
thank you. From an olive

2137
01:24:34,180 --> 01:24:36,180
garden resident >> dashiell

2138
01:24:37,140 --> 01:24:39,414
followed by linda hutchins. >>

2139
01:24:40,230 --> 01:24:42,800
hello, my name is daniel leeds.

2140
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:43,190
I'm a stint as a resident and

2141
01:24:43,190 --> 01:24:44,250
the conservation coordinator

2142
01:24:44,250 --> 01:24:46,300
for the sierra club loma prieta

2143
01:24:46,300 --> 01:24:48,500
chapter. We ask you >> to defer

2144
01:24:48,500 --> 01:24:50,200
rezoning this property as many

2145
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:51,700
community members have already

2146
01:24:51,700 --> 01:24:52,170
told you. We're concerned that

2147
01:24:52,170 --> 01:24:53,190
rezoning this land to

2148
01:24:53,190 --> 01:24:54,260
industrial park could lead to

2149
01:24:54,260 --> 01:24:56,900
data centers and other harmful

2150
01:24:56,900 --> 01:24:58,000
industrial uses to be built in

2151
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,000
this really sensitive area. The

2152
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,500
city and our communities

2153
01:25:01,500 --> 01:25:02,120
deserve full disclosure and

2154
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:03,250
consideration of the legal,

2155
01:25:03,250 --> 01:25:05,500
environmental and land use

2156
01:25:05,500 --> 01:25:06,290
consequences of this rezoning.

2157
01:25:06,290 --> 01:25:08,900
more community engagement and

2158
01:25:08,900 --> 01:25:09,220
disclosure is needed at a

2159
01:25:09,220 --> 01:25:11,230
minimum and you know the city

2160
01:25:11,230 --> 01:25:13,260
really needs to put its foot

2161
01:25:13,260 --> 01:25:15,290
forward and disclose its behind

2162
01:25:15,290 --> 01:25:17,130
the scenes work that it's doing

2163
01:25:17,130 --> 01:25:18,200
on data centers and other

2164
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,600
industrial projects because we

2165
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:20,270
know that there's a lot

2166
01:25:20,270 --> 01:25:22,140
happening >> that you just

2167
01:25:22,140 --> 01:25:23,230
simply aren't telling us until

2168
01:25:23,230 --> 01:25:25,000
it's too late. So the city

2169
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:26,200
needs to do a better job

2170
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:27,500
of disclosing that internal

2171
01:25:27,500 --> 01:25:28,800
work that it's engaging in >>

2172
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,408
every week. Thank you. >>

2173
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,400
darina followed by alice. >>

2174
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,500
hi. This >> is serena. I'm a

2175
01:25:42,500 --> 01:25:43,270
san jose resident. I'm from

2176
01:25:43,270 --> 01:25:46,627
district six but I wanted to

2177
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,240
come and just say I'm I'm in

2178
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,000
support of open space and

2179
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,140
protecting habitat and

2180
01:25:53,140 --> 01:25:55,140
especially this area is a very

2181
01:25:55,140 --> 01:25:57,140
botanically interesting area

2182
01:25:58,150 --> 01:25:59,280
because go and experience the

2183
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,800
land. I mean if you if you're

2184
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:02,250
standing out there and open and

2185
01:26:02,250 --> 01:26:04,100
you can see the poppies on this

2186
01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:06,290
hillside, it's incredible. And

2187
01:26:06,290 --> 01:26:08,180
I'm concerned about industrial

2188
01:26:08,180 --> 01:26:11,700
development in this area and

2189
01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:13,700
specifically datacenters and

2190
01:26:13,170 --> 01:26:15,900
how is that going to impact the

2191
01:26:15,900 --> 01:26:18,900
habitat and just echoing what

2192
01:26:18,900 --> 01:26:20,600
we're ours was saying about

2193
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,230
ceca and you know these

2194
01:26:22,230 --> 01:26:23,200
loopholes that people are

2195
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,100
trying to get through so please

2196
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:28,100
protect open space and defer

2197
01:26:28,110 --> 01:26:31,110
the rezoning. Thank you alice

2198
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,412
>> followed by dave. >> hello.

2199
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,260
can you hear me? Yes. Okay. I'm

2200
01:26:44,260 --> 01:26:46,120
highly skeptical. The claim

2201
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:47,240
made by the proponent of this

2202
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,220
rezoning that school will be

2203
01:26:49,220 --> 01:26:52,100
applied when a specific project

2204
01:26:52,100 --> 01:26:54,900
is considered. No doubt

2205
01:26:54,900 --> 01:26:56,200
developers will take advantage

2206
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,100
of the new school loophole in

2207
01:26:58,100 --> 01:26:59,180
the new school exemption that

2208
01:26:59,180 --> 01:27:02,618
was opened by sb 131 for the

2209
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,260
very poorly defined category

2210
01:27:05,260 --> 01:27:07,250
advanced manufacturing to build

2211
01:27:07,250 --> 01:27:10,100
without any sequel review. The

2212
01:27:10,100 --> 01:27:12,200
council should remove this item

2213
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,280
from the consent calendar. This

2214
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,160
has received only the most

2215
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,290
cursory consideration and do

2216
01:27:18,290 --> 01:27:20,290
not make a rezoning definition

2217
01:27:20,290 --> 01:27:22,250
decision until thorough study

2218
01:27:22,250 --> 01:27:24,425
and solicitation of community

2219
01:27:25,300 --> 01:27:28,300
community input has been done.

2220
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,240
thank you dave followed by

2221
01:27:34,110 --> 01:27:37,110
linda. >> dave, are you there?

2222
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,808
okay, I'm going to go to linda.

2223
01:27:55,260 --> 01:27:57,900
good afternoon. Council this is

2224
01:27:57,900 --> 01:27:58,260
linda hutchins and with mothers

2225
01:27:58,260 --> 01:28:01,400
out front silicon valley we ask

2226
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:02,160
you not to defer the decision

2227
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,180
on rezoning. Thank you to

2228
01:28:04,180 --> 01:28:05,150
councilmember casey for pulling

2229
01:28:05,150 --> 01:28:06,200
this item and the council her

2230
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:07,240
committee for inquiring about

2231
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,200
deferring the rezoning. This is

2232
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,600
too consequential a decision to

2233
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,600
rush. It's essential that you

2234
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:14,120
at first apparently protect the

2235
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:15,240
open space since open space

2236
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,190
zoning is not permanent. Don't

2237
01:28:17,190 --> 01:28:19,100
be fooled by reassurances that

2238
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:20,700
it's not really a zoning

2239
01:28:20,700 --> 01:28:22,600
change. Research in parking is

2240
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:23,240
much less impactful on habitat

2241
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,210
than other industrial uses. I

2242
01:28:25,210 --> 01:28:27,150
want to echo alice kaufman's

2243
01:28:27,150 --> 01:28:30,800
concern about sb 131 the state

2244
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,200
law that exempts all quote

2245
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,200
advanced manufacturing

2246
01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:37,400
facilities from sequa. This is

2247
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:38,230
opening the pandora's box.

2248
01:28:38,230 --> 01:28:40,100
don't let that happen. There's

2249
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:41,260
no rush. Take your time to

2250
01:28:41,260 --> 01:28:43,170
totally understand the impacts

2251
01:28:43,170 --> 01:28:45,140
of your decisions. I want to

2252
01:28:45,140 --> 01:28:46,270
conclude with some comments

2253
01:28:46,270 --> 01:28:48,500
that you know from open space

2254
01:28:48,500 --> 01:28:49,100
stories don't have time to

2255
01:28:49,100 --> 01:28:50,160
finish and her comment

2256
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,110
basically me because the

2257
01:28:52,110 --> 01:28:53,200
current zoning is consistent

2258
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,300
with the general plan and that

2259
01:28:55,300 --> 01:28:57,180
it allows us the uses with the

2260
01:28:57,180 --> 01:28:59,900
designation seek review as

2261
01:28:59,900 --> 01:29:00,150
necessary for you to even

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01:29:00,150 --> 01:29:01,120
change the zoning of the

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01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,412
status. >> sherry followed by

2264
01:29:05,300 --> 01:29:07,300
blair

2265
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:18,190
as you heard me. Yes. Hi, this

2266
01:29:18,190 --> 01:29:20,150
is nick limehouse with the

2267
01:29:20,150 --> 01:29:22,000
santa clarita valley bird

2268
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,000
alliance. We sent you a joint

2269
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:26,180
letter with expressed several

2270
01:29:26,180 --> 01:29:28,110
concerns and we're remain

2271
01:29:28,110 --> 01:29:30,120
concerned. I would like to

2272
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,900
reiterate and emphasize the

2273
01:29:32,900 --> 01:29:33,220
comments made here regarding

2274
01:29:33,220 --> 01:29:36,622
the impacts of sb 131. This law

2275
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:39,100
exemptions and advancement

2276
01:29:39,100 --> 01:29:40,110
factoring projects that are

2277
01:29:40,110 --> 01:29:42,130
proposed on industrial lease on

2278
01:29:42,130 --> 01:29:44,600
land from secure and this is

2279
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:45,200
very consequential for the

2280
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,600
community. Both the

2281
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,600
environmental community but

2282
01:29:49,100 --> 01:29:50,240
also all the residents and all

2283
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,240
the wildlife and open space in

2284
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,150
that area. I would like to

2285
01:29:54,150 --> 01:29:56,000
point out that the general plan

2286
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,400
specifically allows pd zoning

2287
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,220
to continue or to be on places

2288
01:30:01,220 --> 01:30:02,260
that have unusual

2289
01:30:02,260 --> 01:30:04,426
characteristics and the ibm

2290
01:30:05,130 --> 01:30:07,300
campus does have unusual

2291
01:30:07,300 --> 01:30:10,300
character. This has been is why

2292
01:30:10,300 --> 01:30:11,210
so many people are here even

2293
01:30:11,210 --> 01:30:13,180
though this was supposed to be

2294
01:30:13,180 --> 01:30:16,400
a consent item. So robust

2295
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,404
community outreach is needed.

2296
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,600
there followed by sue >> hi

2297
01:30:23,140 --> 01:30:25,200
where beekman. I hope I don't

2298
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,270
step on anyone's toes to try to

2299
01:30:27,270 --> 01:30:29,900
address kind of the mechanics

2300
01:30:29,900 --> 01:30:31,100
of this item. The planning

2301
01:30:31,100 --> 01:30:32,260
director seems to be saying

2302
01:30:32,260 --> 01:30:35,290
that you guys need to have a >>

2303
01:30:35,290 --> 01:30:38,290
a review process, a permit

2304
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,400
process in order for an open

2305
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:42,140
democratic process to take

2306
01:30:42,140 --> 01:30:44,100
place where council person

2307
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:45,170
command other council persons

2308
01:30:45,170 --> 01:30:47,600
may feel that this needs a bit

2309
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,100
more discussion and time and we

2310
01:30:49,100 --> 01:30:51,140
can't and it can't be right. So

2311
01:30:51,140 --> 01:30:52,210
a real good luck that I'm on

2312
01:30:52,210 --> 01:30:54,200
the side of this item sort

2313
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:55,210
of item not be rushed and we

2314
01:30:55,210 --> 01:30:57,700
work towards an open public

2315
01:30:57,700 --> 01:30:58,220
meeting process to really

2316
01:30:58,220 --> 01:31:00,150
decide the future of digital

2317
01:31:00,150 --> 01:31:02,800
centers for ourselves. The

2318
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,110
zoning questions of this item I

2319
01:31:04,110 --> 01:31:05,130
suppose kind of like the flea

2320
01:31:05,130 --> 01:31:06,180
market item where we have a

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01:31:06,180 --> 01:31:08,270
community process to help build

2322
01:31:08,270 --> 01:31:10,110
what can be the future of this

2323
01:31:10,110 --> 01:31:12,150
area and not go straight to the

2324
01:31:12,150 --> 01:31:13,230
permit process in order to

2325
01:31:13,230 --> 01:31:16,230
solve the issue. Thank you >>

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01:31:17,170 --> 01:31:20,617
sue followed by roland. Hi. I

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01:31:23,250 --> 01:31:25,240
lived within half a mile of the

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01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,150
entrance to this property for

2329
01:31:27,150 --> 01:31:29,230
over 30 years. I'd like to

2330
01:31:29,230 --> 01:31:31,180
point out that if the rezoning

2331
01:31:31,180 --> 01:31:33,180
request for ibm is granted

2332
01:31:33,180 --> 01:31:35,900
today the data center

2333
01:31:35,900 --> 01:31:37,130
application can then be quickly

2334
01:31:37,130 --> 01:31:39,170
submitted before new rules are

2335
01:31:39,170 --> 01:31:41,130
announced which will exempt the

2336
01:31:41,130 --> 01:31:43,900
data center from the regulatory

2337
01:31:43,900 --> 01:31:44,290
oversight. The city is

2338
01:31:44,290 --> 01:31:46,290
currently formalizing. Please

2339
01:31:47,170 --> 01:31:49,170
delay defer consideration

2340
01:31:51,110 --> 01:31:53,500
of this rezoning request until

2341
01:31:53,500 --> 01:31:55,200
after new data center rules

2342
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,150
have been completed and are in

2343
01:31:57,150 --> 01:31:59,140
force. For development on this

2344
01:31:59,140 --> 01:32:00,270
property really needs to be

2345
01:32:00,270 --> 01:32:02,210
done with full disclosure

2346
01:32:02,210 --> 01:32:04,230
community input and clear

2347
01:32:04,230 --> 01:32:07,150
rules. This is an inappropriate

2348
01:32:07,150 --> 01:32:09,200
forum for the magnitude

2349
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:11,000
of issues that this land use

2350
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:12,280
and its history represent to

2351
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,150
the public and to the city.

2352
01:32:15,150 --> 01:32:17,415
please defer this decision.

2353
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:19,100
this needs to be made with

2354
01:32:19,100 --> 01:32:21,140
careful consideration and input

2355
01:32:21,140 --> 01:32:23,414
from almaden valley residents.

2356
01:32:24,230 --> 01:32:26,423
roland >> followed by connie.

2357
01:32:28,700 --> 01:32:29,140
good afternoon >> mayor and

2358
01:32:29,140 --> 01:32:31,150
council. My name is roland. I

2359
01:32:31,150 --> 01:32:33,200
live in santa teresa one mile

2360
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,170
from bernal road. I actually

2361
01:32:36,170 --> 01:32:38,260
support the applicants request

2362
01:32:38,260 --> 01:32:40,210
but I also support everybody

2363
01:32:40,210 --> 01:32:43,220
else's request for hearing this

2364
01:32:43,220 --> 01:32:46,110
at a later date. I used to work

2365
01:32:46,110 --> 01:32:49,110
for ibm. This research center

2366
01:32:51,210 --> 01:32:53,180
was used as an r&d and

2367
01:32:53,180 --> 01:32:55,300
laboratory for the last 40

2368
01:32:55,300 --> 01:32:57,300
years. It is supported by a

2369
01:32:57,300 --> 01:32:59,120
massive data center from day

2370
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:02,000
one but nobody outside ibm

2371
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:03,130
knows about it because the data

2372
01:33:03,130 --> 01:33:05,400
center is actually inside the

2373
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,400
building. Now with regards to

2374
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,110
cooling, these data centers

2375
01:33:10,110 --> 01:33:12,180
were so powerful that 40 years

2376
01:33:12,180 --> 01:33:15,150
ago ibm used them at night to

2377
01:33:15,150 --> 01:33:17,220
burn in thermal conduction

2378
01:33:17,220 --> 01:33:18,240
module because they were the

2379
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,500
first computers that used water

2380
01:33:20,500 --> 01:33:22,140
for cooling. Last thing I would

2381
01:33:22,140 --> 01:33:24,300
like a little row to be

2382
01:33:24,300 --> 01:33:26,600
reopened so that we can drive

2383
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:27,210
from santa teresa to almaden

2384
01:33:27,210 --> 01:33:29,421
valley. Thank >> you connie.

2385
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,400
followed by jessica. Hello,

2386
01:33:37,100 --> 01:33:38,250
my name is connie. Good

2387
01:33:38,250 --> 01:33:39,290
morning, mayor and council

2388
01:33:39,290 --> 01:33:41,260
members. I urge council to

2389
01:33:41,260 --> 01:33:43,150
defer the rezoning of the

2390
01:33:43,150 --> 01:33:45,160
former ibm almaden research

2391
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,700
center and I ask for extensive

2392
01:33:48,700 --> 01:33:50,190
community outreach. It is clear

2393
01:33:50,190 --> 01:33:52,100
that many development groups

2394
01:33:52,100 --> 01:33:54,500
have been discussing ibm's

2395
01:33:54,500 --> 01:33:56,800
sale. Therefore it is critical

2396
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:58,170
to allow community input as

2397
01:33:58,170 --> 01:34:01,140
well and to take the steps to

2398
01:34:01,140 --> 01:34:03,120
permanently protect the area.

2399
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,200
as it was originally planned,

2400
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,800
many people have spoken on this

2401
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:09,260
and have left you with enough

2402
01:34:09,260 --> 01:34:12,100
information to realize that you

2403
01:34:12,100 --> 01:34:14,190
really need to stop and think

2404
01:34:14,190 --> 01:34:17,800
before you make a decision on

2405
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:19,408
this. Thank you, jessica.

2406
01:34:22,900 --> 01:34:25,900
followed by dr. Carla jessica

2407
01:34:30,150 --> 01:34:32,600
martinez. >> hello? Can you

2408
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,800
hear me? Yes, hi. This just I'm

2409
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,120
here to ask for this to be

2410
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:38,260
postponed after hearing the

2411
01:34:38,260 --> 01:34:40,280
gentleman from ibm speak.

2412
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:43,120
speak. It is more clear to slow

2413
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:44,260
this process down and there is

2414
01:34:44,260 --> 01:34:46,100
no need to rush. We have

2415
01:34:46,100 --> 01:34:48,100
already seen what is happening

2416
01:34:48,100 --> 01:34:50,200
to our city by the sale of the

2417
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,700
land of great america. Just

2418
01:34:52,700 --> 01:34:55,100
like that land with the what do

2419
01:34:55,100 --> 01:34:57,160
you call it the proposal the

2420
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:58,250
person that bought it most

2421
01:34:58,250 --> 01:35:00,130
likely will turn that into a

2422
01:35:00,130 --> 01:35:02,200
data center or warehouses. We

2423
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,200
don't need to sell this land

2424
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:06,150
and give up what beauty we

2425
01:35:06,150 --> 01:35:09,150
have. Thank you, dr. Carlo

2426
01:35:11,700 --> 01:35:13,700
followed by correct. >> >>

2427
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:20,300
hello? Can you hear me? Yes.

2428
01:35:20,300 --> 01:35:23,200
okay. Yes. So I am a something

2429
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,800
, isn't it? And I'm definitely

2430
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,900
opposed to the data centers and

2431
01:35:28,900 --> 01:35:29,290
pushing this through now we

2432
01:35:29,290 --> 01:35:31,270
already know just looking

2433
01:35:31,270 --> 01:35:33,110
at the news in different cities

2434
01:35:33,110 --> 01:35:35,000
that are currently have data

2435
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:38,000
centers that they are posing

2436
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:39,240
air pollution issues, energy

2437
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,180
consumption emission issues,

2438
01:35:41,180 --> 01:35:43,100
water consumption issues,

2439
01:35:43,100 --> 01:35:45,200
public health issues. So we

2440
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:46,140
don't need to make any rash

2441
01:35:46,140 --> 01:35:48,700
decisions we need to everyone

2442
01:35:48,700 --> 01:35:52,400
have a say and what why not

2443
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:56,600
just use keep the land as it is

2444
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:57,260
like that's what we need to do

2445
01:35:57,260 --> 01:35:59,426
and thank you >> kat >>

2446
01:36:01,150 --> 01:36:04,150
followed by jill follow. Can

2447
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:08,250
you guys hear me? Yes. Hi, I'm

2448
01:36:08,250 --> 01:36:10,170
katrina. I'm also known as cat

2449
01:36:10,170 --> 01:36:12,500
and I urge the city council to

2450
01:36:12,500 --> 01:36:14,900
defer this item and prioritize

2451
01:36:14,900 --> 01:36:15,210
the long term well-being of san

2452
01:36:15,210 --> 01:36:17,220
jose residents over short term

2453
01:36:17,220 --> 01:36:19,800
economic gains or create

2454
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:20,600
lasting environmental

2455
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,900
degradation, health impacts and

2456
01:36:22,900 --> 01:36:23,150
water scarcity that our

2457
01:36:23,150 --> 01:36:25,140
community cannot afford. I

2458
01:36:25,140 --> 01:36:26,180
respectfully demand that the

2459
01:36:26,180 --> 01:36:28,110
council to explicitly exclude

2460
01:36:28,110 --> 01:36:29,230
data center development from

2461
01:36:29,230 --> 01:36:31,210
this rezoning decision until

2462
01:36:31,210 --> 01:36:32,270
the city has set in stone

2463
01:36:32,270 --> 01:36:34,150
standards with legally binding

2464
01:36:34,150 --> 01:36:36,700
enforcement delving into the

2465
01:36:36,700 --> 01:36:37,210
cumulative public health impact

2466
01:36:37,210 --> 01:36:38,270
analysis of planned and

2467
01:36:38,270 --> 01:36:40,230
proposed data centers and

2468
01:36:40,230 --> 01:36:42,220
established and has established

2469
01:36:42,220 --> 01:36:44,000
community protection with

2470
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:45,270
legally binding consequences as

2471
01:36:45,270 --> 01:36:47,427
core requirements. Thank you

2472
01:36:48,130 --> 01:36:49,250
for listening and thank you for

2473
01:36:49,250 --> 01:36:52,110
your time today. >> thank you

2474
01:36:52,110 --> 01:36:55,611
jill followed by dave. I worked

2475
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:03,190
>> at ibm starting back in

2476
01:37:03,190 --> 01:37:05,160
1989. I was at the actually

2477
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:07,900
at the santa teresa laboratory

2478
01:37:07,900 --> 01:37:09,200
but we had frequent meetings

2479
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:10,160
over and sometimes over

2480
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,600
dominant plus so some friends

2481
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,000
were over there. We'd go over

2482
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,300
there a lot and go hiking, take

2483
01:37:16,300 --> 01:37:18,600
walks in that area. >> the

2484
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:19,100
thing is I want to point out

2485
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:21,240
that even if it's quote only

2486
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:24,500
end quote a 35 acre area that

2487
01:37:24,500 --> 01:37:26,000
there talking about presently

2488
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,300
for industrial use you can't

2489
01:37:28,300 --> 01:37:29,600
have the >> road that's there

2490
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,300
now is a road a two lane road

2491
01:37:31,300 --> 01:37:32,250
for ordinary vehicles.

2492
01:37:32,250 --> 01:37:35,250
obviously if there's a new

2493
01:37:35,250 --> 01:37:37,200
development there, new

2494
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:38,230
industrial uses the road would

2495
01:37:38,230 --> 01:37:40,270
be completely would have to

2496
01:37:40,270 --> 01:37:42,140
change and widen and everything

2497
01:37:42,140 --> 01:37:44,200
like that plus I just want to

2498
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,140
point out it's a foolish idea

2499
01:37:46,140 --> 01:37:48,210
to have a foolish place for

2500
01:37:48,210 --> 01:37:50,700
industrial development is right

2501
01:37:50,700 --> 01:37:51,100
in the middle of hundreds

2502
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:52,260
of acres of open space. Thank

2503
01:37:52,260 --> 01:37:55,260
you very much >> dave followed

2504
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,628
by vince venkata dave I your

2505
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:04,000
side I can hear you this time.

2506
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,200
>> okay thank you. Sorry about

2507
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:07,210
that. They pushed a resident

2508
01:38:07,210 --> 01:38:08,230
of the santa teresa

2509
01:38:08,230 --> 01:38:10,190
neighborhood from the late 80s

2510
01:38:10,190 --> 01:38:12,130
until 93 when I became a

2511
01:38:12,130 --> 01:38:14,100
resident of almaden valley in

2512
01:38:14,100 --> 01:38:16,600
99 I had conversations with

2513
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:17,230
my council member and probably

2514
01:38:17,230 --> 01:38:19,423
eric and participated in

2515
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:21,220
community meetings about a

2516
01:38:21,220 --> 01:38:23,160
proposal for the development

2517
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:24,240
of some of the ibm's open

2518
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:27,500
space. The sale was canceled

2519
01:38:27,500 --> 01:38:29,000
when it became clear that ibm

2520
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,700
had committed to a permanent

2521
01:38:31,700 --> 01:38:33,190
open space restriction as part

2522
01:38:33,190 --> 01:38:35,000
of the almaden research center

2523
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:36,190
development the council

2524
01:38:36,190 --> 01:38:38,419
committed to permanent open

2525
01:38:39,230 --> 01:38:42,230
space in perpetuity. It's

2526
01:38:42,260 --> 01:38:44,170
critical in terms of public

2527
01:38:44,170 --> 01:38:46,100
governance protection of the

2528
01:38:46,100 --> 01:38:47,270
serpentine habitat, historic

2529
01:38:47,270 --> 01:38:49,290
bar and rock walls,

2530
01:38:49,290 --> 01:38:51,120
contribution to the quality

2531
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:52,170
of the adjacent santa clara

2532
01:38:52,170 --> 01:38:54,130
teresa or santa teresa county

2533
01:38:54,130 --> 01:38:56,250
park that the open space

2534
01:38:56,250 --> 01:38:58,170
remains open space in

2535
01:38:58,170 --> 01:39:00,417
perpetuity. Please defer. Thank

2536
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,290
you very much >> venkata >>

2537
01:39:03,290 --> 01:39:05,260
online followed by roberta

2538
01:39:05,260 --> 01:39:08,260
moore in person. So roberta

2539
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,300
go ahead and come on down and

2540
01:39:13,300 --> 01:39:17,203
venkata go ahead. I see you're

2541
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:19,800
on muted but we're not hearing

2542
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,608
you. Okay. I'm >> going to

2543
01:39:27,180 --> 01:39:30,618
go to roberta moore in person.

2544
01:39:33,150 --> 01:39:35,250
hi. Thank you. I'm roberta

2545
01:39:35,250 --> 01:39:38,280
moore from d-10. And first I

2546
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:40,130
want to acknowledge you for

2547
01:39:40,130 --> 01:39:41,230
setting standards for

2548
01:39:41,230 --> 01:39:43,230
environmental protections with

2549
01:39:45,110 --> 01:39:48,220
air data centers. I just want

2550
01:39:48,220 --> 01:39:50,280
some facts 800 and >> seven

2551
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,280
160,000,116 million gallons >>

2552
01:39:54,110 --> 01:39:56,210
of water per year and

2553
01:39:56,210 --> 01:39:58,210
876,000,000 kilowatt >> hours

2554
01:40:00,110 --> 01:40:03,230
per year. So we have electrical

2555
01:40:03,230 --> 01:40:05,190
issues, water issues and we

2556
01:40:05,190 --> 01:40:07,210
have traffic issues out there.

2557
01:40:07,210 --> 01:40:10,270
so >> please make if you ignore

2558
01:40:10,270 --> 01:40:13,170
all this feedback please make

2559
01:40:13,170 --> 01:40:16,800
the company pay for this and

2560
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,100
fix these problems and please

2561
01:40:19,100 --> 01:40:22,100
>> require they pay for >> in

2562
01:40:24,500 --> 01:40:27,500
house no water cooling system.

2563
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:29,412
thank you >> katherine matheson

2564
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:33,200
come on down

2565
01:40:48,300 --> 01:40:51,300
. >> hello. I've lived all

2566
01:40:53,900 --> 01:40:57,120
my life in cnn's say since 1950

2567
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:58,210
we've lived in the same house

2568
01:40:58,210 --> 01:41:02,150
and in the rose garden and I

2569
01:41:02,150 --> 01:41:05,200
hate to see this proposal that

2570
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:08,140
you're presenting happen and

2571
01:41:08,140 --> 01:41:10,140
destroy our historical

2572
01:41:10,140 --> 01:41:12,110
neighbors. There's so many

2573
01:41:12,110 --> 01:41:15,240
other ideas. I have a degree in

2574
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,110
biology, ag and forestry and a

2575
01:41:17,110 --> 01:41:18,160
master's in landscape

2576
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:19,190
architecture and helped

2577
01:41:19,190 --> 01:41:21,300
singapore create their gardens

2578
01:41:21,300 --> 01:41:22,200
city so I know what I'm talking

2579
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,420
about >> different ideas put

2580
01:41:26,700 --> 01:41:29,700
housing >> under name >> I'm

2581
01:41:29,210 --> 01:41:31,290
sorry this is >> just the ibm

2582
01:41:31,290 --> 01:41:33,500
site I think you're talking

2583
01:41:33,500 --> 01:41:34,250
about the land use site and

2584
01:41:34,250 --> 01:41:36,280
we're taking up later today I'm

2585
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:39,000
talking about what >> the this

2586
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,200
item we're on is the ibm site

2587
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:42,150
and the potential rezoning

2588
01:41:42,150 --> 01:41:43,220
of that one site. I think you

2589
01:41:43,220 --> 01:41:45,500
may be speaking to the general

2590
01:41:45,500 --> 01:41:47,240
plan review >> item. Oh, okay.

2591
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:49,200
so that'll be coming up and I

2592
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:52,120
throw >> down you can come back

2593
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:53,230
>> up when we get to that I if

2594
01:41:53,230 --> 01:41:55,300
you're speaking to the ibm item

2595
01:41:55,300 --> 01:41:56,200
I'll give you the rest of your

2596
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:57,500
time. I just you were talking

2597
01:41:57,500 --> 01:41:59,600
about housing and landscape I

2598
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:00,160
think this is probably not the

2599
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:03,616
ibm item >> I did great. Okay.

2600
01:42:06,130 --> 01:42:07,150
we'll come back to you when we

2601
01:42:07,150 --> 01:42:10,130
get to that item. Thank you,

2602
01:42:10,130 --> 01:42:11,140
toni. Do we have more public

2603
01:42:11,140 --> 01:42:12,120
speakers? So back >> to

2604
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,110
council. Okay. All right. Well

2605
01:42:14,110 --> 01:42:15,150
>> thank you to everyone who

2606
01:42:15,150 --> 01:42:17,900
weighed in. We're coming back

2607
01:42:17,900 --> 01:42:18,210
to council. I did just want to

2608
01:42:18,210 --> 01:42:19,240


2609
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:21,400
referenced it for those who may

2610
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,190
not be following it as closely

2611
01:42:23,190 --> 01:42:25,140
specifically on data >>

2612
01:42:25,140 --> 01:42:26,260
centers, the council has

2613
01:42:26,260 --> 01:42:28,290
instructed city staff to

2614
01:42:28,290 --> 01:42:31,300
initiate a process over the

2615
01:42:31,300 --> 01:42:32,180
rest of this year of community

2616
01:42:32,180 --> 01:42:33,240
engagement starting with a

2617
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,424
listening session this this

2618
01:42:36,900 --> 01:42:39,900
week and the in fact tomorrow

2619
01:42:39,900 --> 01:42:41,270
evening where well we already

2620
01:42:41,270 --> 01:42:42,270
have some of the strictest

2621
01:42:42,270 --> 01:42:44,200
standards in the country. The

2622
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:45,220
idea is in every category

2623
01:42:45,220 --> 01:42:47,900
of concern can san jose be the

2624
01:42:47,900 --> 01:42:48,170
national leader and have the

2625
01:42:48,170 --> 01:42:50,290
highest standards and really

2626
01:42:50,290 --> 01:42:52,500
ensure that we're protecting

2627
01:42:52,500 --> 01:42:53,250
all of the interests the

2628
01:42:53,250 --> 01:42:55,160
community's expressed on the

2629
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:58,616
specific site which is the ibm

2630
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:01,160
facility out on harry road? I

2631
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:02,190
do want to come back to the

2632
01:43:02,190 --> 01:43:04,200
council member for district ten

2633
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:07,180
and give him the floor once

2634
01:43:07,180 --> 01:43:08,230
again and we'll continue with

2635
01:43:08,230 --> 01:43:10,230
the council deliberation.

2636
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:12,500
councilmember casey thank >>

2637
01:43:12,500 --> 01:43:13,110
you, mayor. I want to thank

2638
01:43:13,110 --> 01:43:14,170
everybody that came out and you

2639
01:43:14,170 --> 01:43:15,270
folks on zoom as well. I know

2640
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:18,140
this is an important piece

2641
01:43:18,140 --> 01:43:20,400
of property all the property is

2642
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:21,150
important to san jose but the

2643
01:43:21,150 --> 01:43:22,210
open space component and the

2644
01:43:22,210 --> 01:43:24,900
fact that this is located in a

2645
01:43:24,900 --> 01:43:25,190
beautiful area I understand the

2646
01:43:25,190 --> 01:43:28,300
concern but I just want to ask

2647
01:43:28,300 --> 01:43:30,130
staff or the attorneys this is

2648
01:43:30,130 --> 01:43:32,000
an eventuality in terms of us

2649
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,130
having to do this conforming

2650
01:43:33,130 --> 01:43:34,290
rezoning. If we don't do it

2651
01:43:34,290 --> 01:43:35,280
now, it's going to happen

2652
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,800
eventually anyway correctly

2653
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:40,800
correct. Sorry. Yes, that is

2654
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:43,160
correct. So there's no stopping

2655
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:46,616
this >> not at this moment. But

2656
01:43:48,250 --> 01:43:50,120
given >> that, is there a way

2657
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:51,270
that we can somehow direct

2658
01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:54,170
staff to pursue the easement

2659
01:43:54,170 --> 01:43:56,000
for the conservation easement,

2660
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:57,120
have that be part of this

2661
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,200
proceeding >> so we can

2662
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:00,200
absolutely pursue that? It

2663
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,600
requires us to work obviously

2664
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:03,500
with the property owner and the

2665
01:44:03,500 --> 01:44:05,150
property owners be willing to

2666
01:44:05,150 --> 01:44:06,250
offer up that easement but it's

2667
01:44:06,250 --> 01:44:07,240
certainly something we can

2668
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:10,624
explore with them. Eric can we

2669
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:12,000
do you mind if I pull eric now

2670
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:13,100
eric you're nodding your head

2671
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:14,900
that the property owner would

2672
01:44:14,900 --> 01:44:15,200
be open to pursuing an easement

2673
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:19,220
on the open space which is I

2674
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:29,300
just want to >> be clear that

2675
01:44:29,300 --> 01:44:30,140
we're in a transition period,

2676
01:44:30,140 --> 01:44:31,260
right? Ibm still owns the

2677
01:44:31,260 --> 01:44:33,800
property, right? So we can't be

2678
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:34,290
making commitments for ibm's

2679
01:44:34,290 --> 01:44:36,170
property. But should the

2680
01:44:36,170 --> 01:44:38,130
property change ownership that

2681
01:44:38,130 --> 01:44:41,130
>> the new owners would be

2682
01:44:41,190 --> 01:44:42,120
interested in having that

2683
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,412
discussion obviously. Okay. I

2684
01:44:49,150 --> 01:44:51,700
think the issue here though is

2685
01:44:51,700 --> 01:44:52,190
as was stated, this is an

2686
01:44:52,190 --> 01:44:54,400
eventuality anyway. This is

2687
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:55,400
something that's coming down

2688
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,160
the pike. I'm interested in

2689
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:00,500
having the property >> pay

2690
01:45:00,500 --> 01:45:01,280
taxes be developed into

2691
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:02,230
something that's going to be

2692
01:45:02,230 --> 01:45:04,170
productive for us economically

2693
01:45:04,170 --> 01:45:05,190
rather than just sitting there

2694
01:45:05,190 --> 01:45:07,200
dormant. There's nothing I've

2695
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:09,900
heard here so far from staff

2696
01:45:09,900 --> 01:45:10,260
and the attorneys that this

2697
01:45:10,260 --> 01:45:12,200
open space is somehow in

2698
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:13,400
jeopardy or that we've

2699
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:14,260
foreclosed on any opportunity

2700
01:45:14,260 --> 01:45:16,130
to have that easement at some

2701
01:45:16,130 --> 01:45:18,130
point in time. Right now this

2702
01:45:18,130 --> 01:45:20,160
decision preserves the open

2703
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,130
space as is. So I'm not sure

2704
01:45:22,130 --> 01:45:24,240
what the concern is at the

2705
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:27,120
moment from the community. And

2706
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:28,200
in addition to that we're not

2707
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:29,260
actually having a conversation

2708
01:45:29,260 --> 01:45:31,140
about data centers right now.

2709
01:45:31,140 --> 01:45:33,230
this is a step towards it. I

2710
01:45:33,230 --> 01:45:35,900
want to acknowledge that. But

2711
01:45:35,900 --> 01:45:36,140
we're not having a data center

2712
01:45:36,140 --> 01:45:37,170
conversation at the moment.

2713
01:45:37,170 --> 01:45:39,220
we're just doing what the state

2714
01:45:39,220 --> 01:45:41,000
is required of us in terms

2715
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,300
of conforming to zoning to meet

2716
01:45:43,300 --> 01:45:44,170
our guidelines or general plan.

2717
01:45:44,170 --> 01:45:46,150
so >> I with that I'll make a

2718
01:45:46,150 --> 01:45:49,220
motion to support or the the

2719
01:45:49,220 --> 01:45:51,220
rezoning I >> think.

2720
01:45:53,150 --> 01:45:54,800
councilmember we have a second

2721
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,180
from councilor cohen. Can I ask

2722
01:45:56,180 --> 01:45:57,290
steph just on that point

2723
01:45:57,290 --> 01:46:00,190
of information, can you expound

2724
01:46:00,190 --> 01:46:02,260
a little bit for the public on

2725
01:46:02,260 --> 01:46:05,626
why this is an eventuality just

2726
01:46:06,150 --> 01:46:07,270
in terms of realigning the

2727
01:46:07,270 --> 01:46:09,500
zoning it would be helpful if

2728
01:46:09,500 --> 01:46:10,180
you all we are in here

2729
01:46:10,180 --> 01:46:12,600
constantly doing rezonings

2730
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:13,170
because of state law. Can you

2731
01:46:13,170 --> 01:46:15,100
please share more about what we

2732
01:46:15,100 --> 01:46:17,110
are mandated by state law to do

2733
01:46:17,110 --> 01:46:18,220
and what we're not mandated to

2734
01:46:18,220 --> 01:46:22,100
do? >> so there is state law sb

2735
01:46:22,100 --> 01:46:24,200
1333 that requires for charter

2736
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:26,280
cities conforming rezoning in

2737
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,500
alignment between the zoning

2738
01:46:28,500 --> 01:46:29,230
and the general plan. So the

2739
01:46:29,230 --> 01:46:31,110
city has been taking different

2740
01:46:31,110 --> 01:46:33,800
batches of sites across the

2741
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:34,170
city and bringing them before

2742
01:46:34,170 --> 01:46:36,800
council to align our zoning and

2743
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:38,400
the general plan since this

2744
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:40,100
application is proposed by a

2745
01:46:40,100 --> 01:46:42,140
private entity we have you

2746
01:46:42,140 --> 01:46:44,700
know, brought this up as part

2747
01:46:44,700 --> 01:46:45,900
of that application but

2748
01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:47,170
ultimately the city is tasked

2749
01:46:47,170 --> 01:46:49,600
to to have conforming zoning

2750
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:51,700
throughout the city. Okay. And

2751
01:46:51,700 --> 01:46:52,250
then and I'll turn to other

2752
01:46:52,250 --> 01:46:53,200
colleagues who are speaking

2753
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:57,150
just a moment. I'm guessing all

2754
01:46:57,150 --> 01:46:59,100
of us want to see the open

2755
01:46:59,100 --> 01:47:00,220
space. I know councilor casey

2756
01:47:00,220 --> 01:47:02,140
cares deeply about this, want

2757
01:47:02,140 --> 01:47:03,250
to see the open space there

2758
01:47:03,250 --> 01:47:06,600
that ibm intended to keep open

2759
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,110
space forever more see that

2760
01:47:08,110 --> 01:47:10,400
protected. Can you share a

2761
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,220
little more about if we do move

2762
01:47:13,220 --> 01:47:15,600
forward with this conforming

2763
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,000
rezoning the protections for

2764
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:18,500
open space and what would

2765
01:47:18,500 --> 01:47:20,270
actually share a little >> more

2766
01:47:20,270 --> 01:47:22,300
I heard a concern about it.

2767
01:47:22,300 --> 01:47:23,900
what would that process look

2768
01:47:23,900 --> 01:47:24,260
like? Should someone say a

2769
01:47:24,260 --> 01:47:26,260
future owner try to change

2770
01:47:26,260 --> 01:47:29,800
that? That's zoning. Yes,

2771
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:30,200
absolutely. So if there was a

2772
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:32,200
future proposal to change the

2773
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:34,260
zoning for that open space, it

2774
01:47:34,260 --> 01:47:35,280
would also need a general plan

2775
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,120
amendment first of all. So that

2776
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:38,260
is that does require councilor

2777
01:47:38,260 --> 01:47:39,250
approval. It requires

2778
01:47:39,250 --> 01:47:41,270
environmental review and the

2779
01:47:41,270 --> 01:47:44,140
due process so public input to

2780
01:47:44,140 --> 01:47:46,230
that through that process. In

2781
01:47:46,230 --> 01:47:49,230
addition the the open space

2782
01:47:50,110 --> 01:47:52,110
zoning that's currently in the

2783
01:47:52,110 --> 01:47:53,160
zoning in the plan development

2784
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:55,200
zoning is actually less

2785
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:56,800
restrictive than the city's

2786
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:57,230
general plan open space

2787
01:47:57,230 --> 01:47:59,500
designation. Can you say that

2788
01:47:59,500 --> 01:48:01,190
again so that the existing open

2789
01:48:01,190 --> 01:48:03,130
space zoning is less than the

2790
01:48:03,130 --> 01:48:05,700
pd in the pd is less

2791
01:48:05,700 --> 01:48:06,170
restrictive than our general

2792
01:48:06,170 --> 01:48:08,110
plan? Open space designation

2793
01:48:08,110 --> 01:48:09,100
because the general plan

2794
01:48:09,100 --> 01:48:11,000
requires that any structures in

2795
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:13,200
an open space designee ation

2796
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:14,500
has to come forward with a

2797
01:48:14,500 --> 01:48:16,190
conditional use permit. I >>

2798
01:48:16,190 --> 01:48:19,300
see so that the rezoning the

2799
01:48:19,300 --> 01:48:20,700
portion going to open space

2800
01:48:20,700 --> 01:48:21,100
actually would be more

2801
01:48:21,100 --> 01:48:22,110
restrictive than what it

2802
01:48:22,110 --> 01:48:24,240
currently is, correct? Correct.

2803
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,150
okay. If anything >> I would

2804
01:48:26,150 --> 01:48:28,190


2805
01:48:28,190 --> 01:48:29,120
to those who are deeply

2806
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,100
concerned although I would say

2807
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:32,110
if anything the trend has been

2808
01:48:32,110 --> 01:48:34,110
toward creating and protecting

2809
01:48:34,110 --> 01:48:36,400
more open space, not less. That

2810
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,500
has been the steady trend now

2811
01:48:38,500 --> 01:48:41,500
for many years. Okay, thanks

2812
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:42,600
for clarifying. I think that

2813
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:45,200
added some helpful context. Let

2814
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:47,100
me turn now to other colleagues

2815
01:48:47,100 --> 01:48:49,401
council our committee. Thank

2816
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:53,400
you so much to all who came out

2817
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:55,800
to give your thoughts on this

2818
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:56,170
item and thank you to

2819
01:48:56,170 --> 01:48:57,220
my colleague

2820
01:48:57,220 --> 01:48:59,800
councilmember casey who who

2821
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:01,800
leads this. >> you know, one

2822
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:02,160
of the things that I am aware

2823
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:05,110
is while the open space there

2824
01:49:05,110 --> 01:49:07,100
are some protection, the only

2825
01:49:07,100 --> 01:49:08,210
way to ensure >> it really is

2826
01:49:08,210 --> 01:49:10,400
if you do have a permanent

2827
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,160
conservation easement on it.

2828
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:13,110
and I just want to get

2829
01:49:13,110 --> 01:49:15,190
clarification on that point. We

2830
01:49:15,190 --> 01:49:18,170
cannot require an applicant as

2831
01:49:18,170 --> 01:49:22,600
a as a part of their rezoning

2832
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:24,160
to require a conservation

2833
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,200
easement on something that has

2834
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:29,400
been known to be permanent open

2835
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:32,604
space. Is that a question for

2836
01:49:33,170 --> 01:49:35,600
the city attorney or yeah, well

2837
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:36,150
>> whoever whoever wants to

2838
01:49:36,150 --> 01:49:39,615
give me the right answer. So

2839
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:42,190
the easement would require both

2840
01:49:42,190 --> 01:49:44,100
parties to agree to come to

2841
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:45,150
some agreement so we cannot

2842
01:49:45,150 --> 01:49:48,100
require okay so >> we can't we

2843
01:49:48,100 --> 01:49:49,400
can't make that as a

2844
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:51,170
requirement of the rezoning.

2845
01:49:51,170 --> 01:49:53,230
correct. Okay. Okay. That that

2846
01:49:53,230 --> 01:49:55,250
makes it very clear. You know,

2847
01:49:55,250 --> 01:49:58,100
I think that it is unfortunate

2848
01:49:58,100 --> 01:50:00,200
that in this circumstance we're

2849
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,500
not allowing more time. I would

2850
01:50:02,500 --> 01:50:04,000
have liked to have seen more

2851
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:07,140
time as was requested by some

2852
01:50:07,140 --> 01:50:10,140
of the letters that we received

2853
01:50:10,140 --> 01:50:12,120
because I think that, you know,

2854
01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:15,100
while yes, we want to update it

2855
01:50:15,100 --> 01:50:16,230
and all of that, I think that

2856
01:50:16,230 --> 01:50:18,100
having conversations with the

2857
01:50:18,100 --> 01:50:21,500
community of what is being done

2858
01:50:21,500 --> 01:50:23,100
is appropriate right? I mean

2859
01:50:23,100 --> 01:50:24,150
this application is not going

2860
01:50:24,150 --> 01:50:26,100
to turn around or we're not

2861
01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:28,700
going to have something there,

2862
01:50:28,700 --> 01:50:30,180
you know, like right away. So

2863
01:50:30,180 --> 01:50:31,290
you know, I do think it's

2864
01:50:31,290 --> 01:50:34,110
important to to have that

2865
01:50:34,110 --> 01:50:35,280
community input. I mean even if

2866
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,800
it's like two weeks or what

2867
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:39,150
have you simply because it

2868
01:50:39,150 --> 01:50:41,500
allows the community to better

2869
01:50:41,500 --> 01:50:43,200
understand where we're going.

2870
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:46,500
so I will not be supporting the

2871
01:50:46,500 --> 01:50:48,500
motion unless

2872
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:50,900
councilmember casey wants to

2873
01:50:50,900 --> 01:50:53,500
wait two weeks to allow people

2874
01:50:53,500 --> 01:50:55,210
to get an understanding further

2875
01:50:55,210 --> 01:50:58,210
understanding I was not aware

2876
01:50:58,290 --> 01:51:02,280
of sb 131 so I just think that

2877
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:04,800
it's important to have that

2878
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,150
community input. But I don't

2879
01:51:07,150 --> 01:51:09,300
know if you would allow a two

2880
01:51:09,300 --> 01:51:12,300
week hold off. >> I appreciate

2881
01:51:12,130 --> 01:51:15,000
community input and I don't

2882
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:16,250
think bad news doesn't age well

2883
01:51:16,250 --> 01:51:18,110
and that community input is not

2884
01:51:18,110 --> 01:51:19,700
going to actually change

2885
01:51:19,700 --> 01:51:20,190
anything. I don't want to be

2886
01:51:20,190 --> 01:51:22,400
performative about it and just

2887
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:23,400
give folks an opportunity to

2888
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:24,300
vent when they're not going to

2889
01:51:24,300 --> 01:51:26,403
actually change anything. Scuse

2890
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:29,424
me ridiculous. >> so please

2891
01:51:30,180 --> 01:51:33,130
don't boo or cheer during

2892
01:51:33,130 --> 01:51:34,280
council deliberations are off

2893
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:35,180
to ask you to leave the

2894
01:51:35,180 --> 01:51:37,000
chamber. Good

2895
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:37,240
councilmember yeah. So just for

2896
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:38,180
that reason I mean it's not

2897
01:51:38,180 --> 01:51:39,140
going to change anything. This

2898
01:51:39,140 --> 01:51:40,180
is an eventuality that's going

2899
01:51:40,180 --> 01:51:42,290
to happen so I appreciate and

2900
01:51:42,290 --> 01:51:44,280
we did receive the input but I

2901
01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:45,270
don't see how that input is

2902
01:51:45,270 --> 01:51:47,270
going to actually change the

2903
01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:49,250
ultimate decision. Yeah, no I

2904
01:51:49,250 --> 01:51:51,190
understand. I thought that that

2905
01:51:51,190 --> 01:51:54,120
would be helpful. I also think

2906
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:57,150
that in the meantime the the

2907
01:51:57,150 --> 01:52:00,120
applicant and the owners would

2908
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,900
perhaps think about I know we

2909
01:52:02,900 --> 01:52:03,260
can't require it but would

2910
01:52:03,260 --> 01:52:06,210
think about you know what might

2911
01:52:06,210 --> 01:52:08,160
be possible in terms of a

2912
01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:10,110
voluntary conservation easement

2913
01:52:10,110 --> 01:52:11,270
that way they you know for sure

2914
01:52:11,270 --> 01:52:13,180
right for those coming in those

2915
01:52:13,180 --> 01:52:16,260
going out so yes but thank you.

2916
01:52:16,260 --> 01:52:18,160
thank you for your thoughts.

2917
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:19,170
but I >> also think there's an

2918
01:52:19,170 --> 01:52:20,290
opportunity if they do come

2919
01:52:20,290 --> 01:52:22,250
back for the industrial portion

2920
01:52:22,250 --> 01:52:24,500
to have that conversation

2921
01:52:24,500 --> 01:52:25,220
before we approve whatever they

2922
01:52:25,220 --> 01:52:26,180
decide to do with the

2923
01:52:26,180 --> 01:52:27,280
industrial part, we can have

2924
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,180
that be a condition and have

2925
01:52:29,180 --> 01:52:31,100
that conversation at that time

2926
01:52:31,100 --> 01:52:31,210
which I think is more

2927
01:52:31,210 --> 01:52:32,280
appropriate than at this moment

2928
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:34,428
. Thank you. Thanks >> council

2929
01:52:37,300 --> 01:52:39,170
member let's go to councilor

2930
01:52:39,170 --> 01:52:41,417
compost next. >> thank you

2931
01:52:43,100 --> 01:52:44,230
mayor and thank you for

2932
01:52:44,230 --> 01:52:47,120
my colleagues cousin casey for

2933
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:48,210
pulling this item.

2934
01:52:48,210 --> 01:52:49,900
councilmember camejo for your

2935
01:52:49,900 --> 01:52:51,000
questions and the members

2936
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:52,700
of the community who came out

2937
01:52:52,700 --> 01:52:55,100
to engage with us on this item.

2938
01:52:55,100 --> 01:52:56,170
I just have two questions that

2939
01:52:56,170 --> 01:52:58,110
I want to ask staff and the

2940
01:52:58,110 --> 01:53:00,120
first is for more information

2941
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,280
about sb 131 and the to

2942
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,170
exemptions for certain

2943
01:53:04,170 --> 01:53:07,170
industrial uses >> I can start

2944
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:11,180
and then I'll see if david

2945
01:53:11,180 --> 01:53:13,600
kianna principal planner wants

2946
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:15,240
to chime in. So sb 131 went

2947
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:18,180
into effect last july and

2948
01:53:18,180 --> 01:53:20,220
allows for that. The state

2949
01:53:20,220 --> 01:53:22,300
essentially has allowed for

2950
01:53:22,300 --> 01:53:23,180
exemptions for advanced

2951
01:53:23,180 --> 01:53:25,418
manufacturing uses from the

2952
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:26,290
california environmental

2953
01:53:26,290 --> 01:53:28,170
quality act. So from

2954
01:53:28,170 --> 01:53:30,150
environmental review and so

2955
01:53:30,150 --> 01:53:33,150
this particular site how sb 131

2956
01:53:33,270 --> 01:53:35,900
could potentially affect it is

2957
01:53:35,900 --> 01:53:38,000
that if the ip rezoning is

2958
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:40,200
approved then there could be

2959
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:41,230
certain very limited advanced

2960
01:53:41,230 --> 01:53:43,240
manufacturing uses within that

2961
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,800
ip zoning table that are

2962
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:47,210
allowed that may be exempt from

2963
01:53:47,210 --> 01:53:49,120
those requirements. However,

2964
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:52,300
the general plan the ip general

2965
01:53:52,300 --> 01:53:53,600
plan designation at a

2966
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:54,160
programmatic level already

2967
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:57,160
allows for those uses. David >>

2968
01:53:58,230 --> 01:54:00,130
and >> good afternoon

2969
01:54:00,130 --> 01:54:01,200
councilmember campos david

2970
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:02,300
conference will plan on the

2971
01:54:02,300 --> 01:54:03,240
city's environment review team

2972
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:07,260
so sb 131 as I said is a

2973
01:54:07,260 --> 01:54:09,160
statutory submission approved

2974
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:10,250
by the state that exempts a

2975
01:54:10,250 --> 01:54:13,625
very targeted group of land use

2976
01:54:15,500 --> 01:54:17,210
actually projects for it under

2977
01:54:17,210 --> 01:54:18,250
the umbrella of advanced

2978
01:54:18,250 --> 01:54:20,140
manufacturing. It's things like

2979
01:54:20,140 --> 01:54:22,140
nanotechnology, biotechnology

2980
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:23,260
you know research and

2981
01:54:23,260 --> 01:54:25,230
development involving some sort

2982
01:54:25,230 --> 01:54:27,150
of manufacturing. It's very

2983
01:54:27,150 --> 01:54:30,800
limited. I do want to mention

2984
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:32,700
and reiterate that it does not

2985
01:54:32,700 --> 01:54:34,200
include most of the land uses

2986
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:36,400
in the wild or the industrial

2987
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:37,130
park zoning districts such as

2988
01:54:37,130 --> 01:54:39,220
offices and warehouses and data

2989
01:54:39,220 --> 01:54:41,220
centers. Those are not within

2990
01:54:41,220 --> 01:54:43,280
>> the group of projects >>

2991
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:45,170
that would be exempt under sb

2992
01:54:45,170 --> 01:54:47,170
131 statutory exemption. So

2993
01:54:48,100 --> 01:54:50,110
projects that proceed if there

2994
01:54:50,110 --> 01:54:51,190
was to be a project that was to

2995
01:54:51,190 --> 01:54:54,150
proceed on the site under the

2996
01:54:54,150 --> 01:54:55,250
industrial park zoning

2997
01:54:55,250 --> 01:54:57,200
designation would have to

2998
01:54:57,200 --> 01:54:58,220
go through its own secure

2999
01:54:58,220 --> 01:55:00,600
process at that time and for

3000
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:01,120
example or data center would

3001
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:03,000
have to go through its own full

3002
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:04,130
environmental review process

3003
01:55:04,130 --> 01:55:07,280
at that time. Thank you, david.

3004
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:10,100
I'm in there for that response

3005
01:55:10,100 --> 01:55:13,100
and then this second question

3006
01:55:13,220 --> 01:55:16,200
is kind of also a request so

3007
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:17,290
you know, given what we heard

3008
01:55:17,290 --> 01:55:20,629
about not being able to require

3009
01:55:21,300 --> 01:55:23,300
the conservation easement

3010
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:27,000
of the future property owner,

3011
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:30,000
can staff guarantee that you

3012
01:55:30,100 --> 01:55:31,150
will provide the information

3013
01:55:31,150 --> 01:55:34,600
that they need to be informed

3014
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,600
about, you know, that that

3015
01:55:37,900 --> 01:55:39,240
option that they have I don't

3016
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:41,900
know if that's common practice

3017
01:55:41,900 --> 01:55:43,000
but for this project is that

3018
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:44,200
something that staff could

3019
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,220
ensure that the project

3020
01:55:46,220 --> 01:55:47,280
applicant or the next property

3021
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:50,100
owner knows that a conservation

3022
01:55:50,100 --> 01:55:52,100
easement is a request of the

3023
01:55:52,100 --> 01:55:54,240
community and that they have

3024
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:56,240
that information? >> yes,

3025
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:58,220
councilmember absolutely. Thank

3026
01:55:58,220 --> 01:56:00,120
you for confirming that. Those

3027
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,412
are my questions. >> thanks,

3028
01:56:03,900 --> 01:56:04,200
councilmember. I appreciate it.

3029
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:05,100
let's turn now to

3030
01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:06,290
councilmember claudius. Thank

3031
01:56:06,290 --> 01:56:07,290
you, mayor, and thank you staff

3032
01:56:07,290 --> 01:56:09,800
for clarifying the process for

3033
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:10,600
actually pursuing the

3034
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:11,250
conservation easement on a

3035
01:56:11,250 --> 01:56:12,220
follow up since it was just

3036
01:56:12,220 --> 01:56:13,230
referenced a couple of times

3037
01:56:13,230 --> 01:56:15,500
about some of the commitments

3038
01:56:15,500 --> 01:56:17,400
made by a previous council back

3039
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:18,260
in the 90s to pursue permanent

3040
01:56:18,260 --> 01:56:20,260
protection of the open space.

3041
01:56:20,260 --> 01:56:22,000
what is your take on that

3042
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,110
history is the history here

3043
01:56:24,110 --> 01:56:25,180
essentially that council made a

3044
01:56:25,180 --> 01:56:26,220
recommendation that was not

3045
01:56:26,220 --> 01:56:28,160
legally enforceable or was it

3046
01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:30,500
too ambiguous kind of what

3047
01:56:30,500 --> 01:56:32,130
council was intending? So again

3048
01:56:32,130 --> 01:56:33,200
>> councilmember, I apologize.

3049
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:34,170
I'm just trying to get to a

3050
01:56:34,170 --> 01:56:37,617
better mike. That's the the

3051
01:56:38,210 --> 01:56:39,250
previous direction came through

3052
01:56:39,250 --> 01:56:41,900
a memo by then

3053
01:56:41,900 --> 01:56:43,900
councilmember dando that

3054
01:56:43,900 --> 01:56:45,190
directed staff to pursue a

3055
01:56:45,190 --> 01:56:46,250
conservation easement. So

3056
01:56:46,250 --> 01:56:48,130
obviously we don't have all

3057
01:56:48,130 --> 01:56:49,400
of the records of the

3058
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:50,700
conversations that occurred

3059
01:56:50,700 --> 01:56:52,000
after that but it does require

3060
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:53,160
both parties to be willing to

3061
01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:56,160
pursue that. And so the

3062
01:56:56,220 --> 01:56:58,100
eventuality is that we don't

3063
01:56:58,100 --> 01:56:59,110
have that so we can only assume

3064
01:56:59,110 --> 01:57:00,290
at this point that no agreement

3065
01:57:00,290 --> 01:57:03,500
was reached. Thank >> you. And

3066
01:57:03,500 --> 01:57:04,150
then just to follow up on

3067
01:57:04,150 --> 01:57:05,190
councilmember casey's point, is

3068
01:57:05,190 --> 01:57:06,170
this something that could be

3069
01:57:06,170 --> 01:57:07,150
potentially added as a

3070
01:57:07,150 --> 01:57:09,160
condition for any future actual

3071
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:10,260
project application on the

3072
01:57:10,260 --> 01:57:12,400
industrial zone portion >>

3073
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:13,200
of the site? So again, it would

3074
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,400
>> be similar direction to

3075
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:17,260
pursue it that certainly

3076
01:57:17,260 --> 01:57:18,150
something that we could >>

3077
01:57:18,150 --> 01:57:20,180
engage with an applicant with

3078
01:57:20,180 --> 01:57:22,700
prior to approval of that

3079
01:57:22,700 --> 01:57:23,270
application and just sort

3080
01:57:23,270 --> 01:57:24,270
of see what their willingness

3081
01:57:24,270 --> 01:57:26,800
is to have the conversation and

3082
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:27,100
then do some follow up work

3083
01:57:27,100 --> 01:57:29,150
around them. Thank you. You

3084
01:57:29,150 --> 01:57:30,230
know, I think it's clear that

3085
01:57:30,230 --> 01:57:32,130
obviously the community itself

3086
01:57:32,130 --> 01:57:33,150
but also many of us up here

3087
01:57:33,150 --> 01:57:35,500
would like to see some firmer

3088
01:57:35,500 --> 01:57:36,240
protections for the open space

3089
01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:38,900
component here. So whatever

3090
01:57:38,900 --> 01:57:39,900
form that takes, I'm hopeful

3091
01:57:39,900 --> 01:57:40,240
that if an actual project

3092
01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:42,500
application comes back on this

3093
01:57:42,500 --> 01:57:43,190
site that we can collectively

3094
01:57:43,190 --> 01:57:44,270
move towards better protections

3095
01:57:44,270 --> 01:57:46,130
for this open space. But in the

3096
01:57:46,130 --> 01:57:47,160
meantime it is good to

3097
01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:48,240
at least know that the general

3098
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:50,500
plan open space designation

3099
01:57:50,500 --> 01:57:51,130
will include some additional

3100
01:57:51,130 --> 01:57:52,200
safeguards that are not present

3101
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:54,150
under the existing pd zoning.

3102
01:57:54,150 --> 01:57:56,415
thank you. Thanks council

3103
01:57:57,230 --> 01:57:59,120
member I don't see any other

3104
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:01,160
hands so toni I think we're

3105
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:02,290
ready to vote on the motion by

3106
01:58:02,290 --> 01:58:04,290
councilor casey >>

3107
01:58:14,180 --> 01:58:16,418
. Motion passes 9 to 2 >> with

3108
01:58:20,180 --> 01:58:23,618
mae and campos voting no. Okay

3109
01:58:24,900 --> 01:58:26,800
. Thank you, toni. We are on to

3110
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:28,150
our next item. That was ladies

3111
01:58:28,150 --> 01:58:30,230
consent rhonda item 3.1 which

3112
01:58:30,230 --> 01:58:32,200
is the report of the city

3113
01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:35,000
manager. >> thank you, mayor. I

3114
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:37,000
have no report today. Okay.

3115
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:37,280
thank you, jennifer rhonda,

3116
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:40,250
item 3.3 this is the housing

3117
01:58:40,250 --> 01:58:42,425
department law loan portfolio

3118
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:46,608
audit report. Take a moment for

3119
01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:51,000
city staff to move down to the

3120
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:53,000
box >>

3121
01:59:10,180 --> 01:59:11,220
and joe, when you in the timber

3122
01:59:11,220 --> 01:59:13,900
ready go ahead and get started.

3123
01:59:13,900 --> 01:59:16,900
yes. So good afternoon >> joy

3124
01:59:19,290 --> 01:59:21,300
city order. I'm here with

3125
01:59:21,300 --> 01:59:22,270
alison, polly adrian perez and

3126
01:59:22,270 --> 01:59:25,400
maria vi to present are on

3127
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:26,230
affordable multiple multifamily

3128
01:59:26,230 --> 01:59:28,400
housing loan portfolio clear

3129
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:29,150
goals and stronger oversight

3130
01:59:29,150 --> 01:59:30,230
would improve monitoring also

3131
01:59:30,230 --> 01:59:32,700
in the boxes eric sullivan from

3132
01:59:32,700 --> 01:59:34,700
the housing department >>

3133
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:37,270
affordable >> housing serves

3134
01:59:37,270 --> 01:59:38,270
low to moderate income

3135
01:59:38,270 --> 01:59:40,000
residents in the city of san

3136
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:41,240
jose to support the development

3137
01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:43,100
of affordable multifamily

3138
01:59:43,100 --> 01:59:44,250
housing. The city's housing

3139
01:59:44,250 --> 01:59:46,300
department provides loans to

3140
01:59:46,300 --> 01:59:47,150
developers for the construction

3141
01:59:47,150 --> 01:59:48,900
of new properties and the

3142
01:59:48,900 --> 01:59:49,110
preservation of existing

3143
01:59:49,110 --> 01:59:51,600
properties. Along with the

3144
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:52,140
loans come restrictions on

3145
01:59:52,140 --> 01:59:54,120
tenant rents and income to

3146
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:55,110
ensure that the units remain

3147
01:59:55,110 --> 01:59:57,600
affordable over the life of the

3148
01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:58,150
agreement and the affordability

3149
01:59:58,150 --> 02:00:00,400
period. Housing staff are

3150
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:01,190
expected to verify that

3151
02:00:01,190 --> 02:00:03,600
property owners repay loans for

3152
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:04,140
affordability restrictions and

3153
02:00:04,140 --> 02:00:06,190
maintain buildings at the time

3154
02:00:06,190 --> 02:00:07,130
of the audit, the permanent

3155
02:00:07,130 --> 02:00:08,250
loan portfolio totaled over

3156
02:00:08,250 --> 02:00:10,250
$745 million with nearly 25,000

3157
02:00:12,260 --> 02:00:14,210
units with active loans

3158
02:00:14,210 --> 02:00:16,200
affordability restrictions or

3159
02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:18,180
were in the pipeline across

3160
02:00:18,180 --> 02:00:20,180
roughly 220 properties. Many

3161
02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:23,100
loans were recorded before 2012

3162
02:00:23,100 --> 02:00:24,700
and are also subject to

3163
02:00:24,700 --> 02:00:26,220
regulations from lenders and

3164
02:00:26,220 --> 02:00:27,280
government agencies including

3165
02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:28,270
the state and the federal

3166
02:00:28,270 --> 02:00:30,230
government. The objective

3167
02:00:30,230 --> 02:00:31,240
of this audit was to assess

3168
02:00:31,240 --> 02:00:33,120
housing processes for managing

3169
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:34,110
the affordable housing loan

3170
02:00:34,110 --> 02:00:36,400
portfolio including loan

3171
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:37,800
servicing and compliance

3172
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:40,300
monitoring as described in the

3173
02:00:40,300 --> 02:00:41,120
city's adopted operating budget

3174
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:42,210
in addition to providing loans,

3175
02:00:42,210 --> 02:00:44,200
housing manages and oversees

3176
02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:45,500
the city's affordable housing

3177
02:00:45,500 --> 02:00:47,500
loan portfolio portfolio

3178
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:48,200
including loan servicing and

3179
02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:49,290
monitoring and compliance

3180
02:00:49,290 --> 02:00:51,200
of deed restricted apartment

3181
02:00:51,200 --> 02:00:53,100
apartments. Housing's role is

3182
02:00:53,100 --> 02:00:54,230
to provide asset management

3183
02:00:54,230 --> 02:00:55,270
which involves monitoring the

3184
02:00:55,270 --> 02:00:57,200
financial performance

3185
02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:58,220
of properties and the overall

3186
02:00:58,220 --> 02:01:00,200
portfolio which differs from

3187
02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:01,180
property management which

3188
02:01:01,180 --> 02:01:02,160
relates to the day to day

3189
02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:04,250
operations of a property

3190
02:01:04,250 --> 02:01:06,100
housing >> context multiple

3191
02:01:06,100 --> 02:01:08,600
types of oversight including

3192
02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:09,150
financial reviews for staff,

3193
02:01:09,150 --> 02:01:11,100
examine financial statements,

3194
02:01:11,100 --> 02:01:12,220
operating budgets and other

3195
02:01:12,220 --> 02:01:13,270
documentation required to be

3196
02:01:13,270 --> 02:01:15,290
submitted by property owners

3197
02:01:15,290 --> 02:01:17,500
affordability restriction

3198
02:01:17,500 --> 02:01:18,150
monitoring where property meant

3199
02:01:18,150 --> 02:01:19,240
or property managers are

3200
02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:21,700
expected to submit rent rolls

3201
02:01:21,700 --> 02:01:22,280
with rent levels and tenant

3202
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:24,110
income information to housing

3203
02:01:24,110 --> 02:01:26,800
staff and staff then check

3204
02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:27,700
whether the rents are within

3205
02:01:27,700 --> 02:01:28,900
the allowed rent limits for the

3206
02:01:28,900 --> 02:01:29,260
unit type and may check tenant

3207
02:01:29,260 --> 02:01:31,250
incomes. Lastly, property

3208
02:01:31,250 --> 02:01:33,240
inspections which enable the

3209
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:34,280
city to monitor the building's

3210
02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:36,100
condition any problems that

3211
02:01:36,100 --> 02:01:36,240
need to be addressed to

3212
02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:37,210
maintain the long term

3213
02:01:37,210 --> 02:01:39,180
viability of the property. We

3214
02:01:39,180 --> 02:01:41,190
had two findings I'm we provide

3215
02:01:41,190 --> 02:01:43,190
alison to talk through those.

3216
02:01:43,190 --> 02:01:46,190
thank you. Our first finding

3217
02:01:46,290 --> 02:01:48,600
was that housing should assess

3218
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:49,150
the asset management teams

3219
02:01:49,150 --> 02:01:52,600
goals and resources as joe just

3220
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:53,160
described the asset management

3221
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:55,120
team's role is to monitor loan

3222
02:01:55,120 --> 02:01:56,200
compliance for the city's

3223
02:01:56,200 --> 02:01:58,200
affordable housing loan

3224
02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:00,200
portfolio. This involves

3225
02:02:00,130 --> 02:02:02,800
verifying that borrowers repay

3226
02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:04,130
city loans, that housing units

3227
02:02:04,130 --> 02:02:05,250
comply with affordability

3228
02:02:05,250 --> 02:02:07,500
restrictions and that

3229
02:02:07,500 --> 02:02:08,170
properties are appropriately

3230
02:02:08,170 --> 02:02:11,800
maintained. We found the team

3231
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:13,500
has not completed all annual

3232
02:02:13,500 --> 02:02:14,280
property reviews or inspections

3233
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:16,260
in recent years. According to

3234
02:02:16,260 --> 02:02:17,260
housing, the team has

3235
02:02:17,260 --> 02:02:19,110
historically not been able to

3236
02:02:19,110 --> 02:02:21,210
complete all reviews annually.

3237
02:02:21,210 --> 02:02:23,140
of the more than 200 properties

3238
02:02:23,140 --> 02:02:25,220
in the portfolio vacancies and

3239
02:02:25,220 --> 02:02:27,170
unclear expectation liens have

3240
02:02:27,170 --> 02:02:29,000
hindered the team's ability to

3241
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:32,000
complete its work. In addition,

3242
02:02:32,900 --> 02:02:33,260
the current software tools may

3243
02:02:33,260 --> 02:02:35,500
not be sufficient to meet the

3244
02:02:35,500 --> 02:02:36,270
goals of the program. Given the

3245
02:02:36,270 --> 02:02:38,140
size and scope of the loan

3246
02:02:38,140 --> 02:02:40,140
portfolio replacing or

3247
02:02:40,160 --> 02:02:42,000
retooling software would help

3248
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:44,100
the team complete their work

3249
02:02:44,100 --> 02:02:45,800
at the time of the audit.

3250
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:46,170
housing was developing an

3251
02:02:46,170 --> 02:02:48,190
automated rent roll portal to

3252
02:02:48,190 --> 02:02:50,120
assist with reviews and was

3253
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:51,250
working on developing standard

3254
02:02:51,250 --> 02:02:53,170
operating procedures that would

3255
02:02:53,170 --> 02:02:55,100
support staff to complete their

3256
02:02:55,100 --> 02:02:57,140
work more consistently. We

3257
02:02:57,140 --> 02:02:58,220
recommend that housing develop

3258
02:02:58,220 --> 02:03:01,000
a program level strategic plan

3259
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:02,180
to identify the program goals

3260
02:03:02,180 --> 02:03:04,110
and resource needs to

3261
02:03:04,110 --> 02:03:05,130
reconfigure the current

3262
02:03:05,130 --> 02:03:07,180
software or to acquire an asset

3263
02:03:07,180 --> 02:03:09,150
management software platform

3264
02:03:09,150 --> 02:03:11,000
and to update and standardize

3265
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:12,100
operating procedures and

3266
02:03:12,100 --> 02:03:14,410
training. Our second finding >>

3267
02:03:16,270 --> 02:03:17,240
is that housing should

3268
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:19,200
strengthen oversight

3269
02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:20,900
of affordability restrictions

3270
02:03:20,900 --> 02:03:22,190
and higher risk properties.

3271
02:03:22,190 --> 02:03:23,180
some properties in the

3272
02:03:23,180 --> 02:03:25,800
affordable housing portfolio do

3273
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:27,200
not comply with affordability

3274
02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:28,250
restrictions. Have not

3275
02:03:28,250 --> 02:03:29,200
submitted required

3276
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:31,280
documentation or have repeated

3277
02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:33,428
property violations. We found

3278
02:03:34,210 --> 02:03:37,100
in a limited sample of 878

3279
02:03:37,100 --> 02:03:39,600
units across ten properties

3280
02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:41,120
which represents 4% of the

3281
02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:43,412
total units managed. 110 units

3282
02:03:44,120 --> 02:03:46,140
had tenants with incomes above

3283
02:03:46,140 --> 02:03:48,190
the cap for their unit type.

3284
02:03:48,190 --> 02:03:51,800
that was 13% of the sample

3285
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:52,250
based on federal standards,

3286
02:03:52,250 --> 02:03:54,200
incomes slightly over the

3287
02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:55,240
limits generally aren't

3288
02:03:55,240 --> 02:03:57,600
considered a problem because we

3289
02:03:57,600 --> 02:03:58,240
don't want to penalize people

3290
02:03:58,240 --> 02:04:00,230
for raising their incomes.

3291
02:04:00,230 --> 02:04:02,423
however, 48 units had tenants

3292
02:04:03,100 --> 02:04:06,800
that earned 140% or more of the

3293
02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:08,140
income cap which was 5% of the

3294
02:04:08,140 --> 02:04:10,210
sample. That income level meant

3295
02:04:10,210 --> 02:04:12,100
that they exceeded the federal

3296
02:04:12,100 --> 02:04:14,180
standard. Another concern is

3297
02:04:14,180 --> 02:04:16,000
the potential for tenant

3298
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:17,180
incomes to be below

3299
02:04:17,180 --> 02:04:19,120
expectations meaning they fall

3300
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:21,100
well below the target income

3301
02:04:21,100 --> 02:04:23,400
level for their unit. This can

3302
02:04:23,400 --> 02:04:24,150
leave the tenant overly rent

3303
02:04:24,150 --> 02:04:26,700
burdened and put the property's

3304
02:04:26,700 --> 02:04:27,250
financial stability at risk if

3305
02:04:27,250 --> 02:04:30,240
the rental income is very low.

3306
02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:32,600
we also noted that housing does

3307
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:33,100
not have a documented

3308
02:04:33,100 --> 02:04:35,140
escalation process to address

3309
02:04:35,140 --> 02:04:37,414
comply or property violations

3310
02:04:38,300 --> 02:04:39,220
despite differences in property

3311
02:04:39,220 --> 02:04:40,290
compliance. The asset

3312
02:04:40,290 --> 02:04:42,100
management teams current

3313
02:04:42,100 --> 02:04:44,000
approach does not differentiate

3314
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:45,130
financial and affordability

3315
02:04:45,130 --> 02:04:47,110
restriction monitoring based on

3316
02:04:47,110 --> 02:04:49,250
the risk of the property. We

3317
02:04:49,250 --> 02:04:51,100
recommend that housing develop

3318
02:04:51,100 --> 02:04:52,250
policies to address over and

3319
02:04:52,250 --> 02:04:54,150
under income tenants and

3320
02:04:54,150 --> 02:04:56,400
resolve significant or repeated

3321
02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:58,500
property concerns and to

3322
02:04:58,500 --> 02:05:00,200
establish a risk rating system

3323
02:05:00,200 --> 02:05:01,150
to prioritize compliance

3324
02:05:01,150 --> 02:05:03,415
monitoring. So to summarize

3325
02:05:05,600 --> 02:05:06,120
finding one focused on a

3326
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:07,240
strategic plan to clarify what

3327
02:05:07,240 --> 02:05:09,800
housing role is and the goals

3328
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:10,260
of the program and that plan

3329
02:05:10,260 --> 02:05:11,240
will help housing create

3330
02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:13,300
structures and processes to

3331
02:05:13,300 --> 02:05:14,900
oversee the portfolio more

3332
02:05:14,900 --> 02:05:16,600
effectively. Finding two is

3333
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:17,000
about making sure we have

3334
02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:18,100
escalation processes when

3335
02:05:18,100 --> 02:05:19,800
something goes wrong in a

3336
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:20,700
property whether that's about

3337
02:05:20,700 --> 02:05:21,120
tenant incomes, financial

3338
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:23,200
concerns or the physical

3339
02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:25,000
condition of the properties. I

3340
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:26,400
do want to emphasize that this

3341
02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:27,150
is a complex regulatory

3342
02:05:27,150 --> 02:05:28,170
environment with requirements

3343
02:05:28,170 --> 02:05:29,210
and regulations that can come

3344
02:05:29,210 --> 02:05:30,260
from multiple agencies which I

3345
02:05:30,260 --> 02:05:31,290
think eric can speak to as

3346
02:05:31,290 --> 02:05:34,300
well. This along with the scope

3347
02:05:34,300 --> 02:05:36,300
of the portfolio makes

3348
02:05:36,300 --> 02:05:36,290
addressing the issues we have

3349
02:05:36,290 --> 02:05:38,200
identified challenging. However

3350
02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:39,220
although the city can troops

3351
02:05:39,220 --> 02:05:40,250
only a part of the funding it

3352
02:05:40,250 --> 02:05:42,190
is incumbent upon the city to

3353
02:05:42,190 --> 02:05:44,150
have processes that ensure

3354
02:05:44,150 --> 02:05:45,400
these properties are

3355
02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:46,110
well-maintained with adequate

3356
02:05:46,110 --> 02:05:47,280
oversight. This is how we can

3357
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:49,100
assure the properties continue

3358
02:05:49,100 --> 02:05:50,180
to provide quality affordable

3359
02:05:50,180 --> 02:05:51,240
housing to san jose residents.

3360
02:05:51,240 --> 02:05:53,290
here is to come as you accept

3361
02:05:53,290 --> 02:05:55,100
report before signature or to

3362
02:05:55,100 --> 02:05:56,600
eric for the administration's

3363
02:05:56,600 --> 02:05:58,230
response. Thank >> you joseph

3364
02:05:58,230 --> 02:06:00,200
eric sullivan director

3365
02:06:00,200 --> 02:06:01,120
of housing. I appreciate the

3366
02:06:01,120 --> 02:06:03,200
work of joe and his team in

3367
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:04,230
acknowledging some of the

3368
02:06:04,230 --> 02:06:06,100
complex positions the housing

3369
02:06:06,100 --> 02:06:07,180
department operates in and

3370
02:06:07,180 --> 02:06:09,240
regarding this portfolio. We

3371
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:11,290
are not the regulator

3372
02:06:11,290 --> 02:06:13,190
of primary instance. We

3373
02:06:13,190 --> 02:06:15,419
primarily notice other entities

3374
02:06:16,170 --> 02:06:19,100
the state, other funders to

3375
02:06:19,100 --> 02:06:21,110
noncompliance issues and play a

3376
02:06:21,110 --> 02:06:23,250
complex part in ensuring the

3377
02:06:23,250 --> 02:06:25,210
continuing asset management

3378
02:06:25,210 --> 02:06:27,150
of this portfolio. As we're

3379
02:06:27,150 --> 02:06:29,260
seeing in our aggressive

3380
02:06:29,260 --> 02:06:31,270
disposition of addressing very

3381
02:06:31,270 --> 02:06:33,500
distressed assets. So that's

3382
02:06:33,500 --> 02:06:34,120
regarding first community

3383
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:36,900
housing and we appreciate joe's

3384
02:06:36,900 --> 02:06:37,200
sort of understanding of sort

3385
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:39,600
of the awkward position that we

3386
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:41,120
sit in and how we're able to

3387
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:43,200
move and improve our overall

3388
02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:45,190
efforts at compliance while

3389
02:06:45,190 --> 02:06:47,200
acknowledging some of these

3390
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:49,300
areas of enforcement are

3391
02:06:49,300 --> 02:06:50,230
outside of our direct

3392
02:06:50,230 --> 02:06:52,423
jurisdiction. The department is

3393
02:06:53,300 --> 02:06:55,150
coming into this position just

3394
02:06:55,150 --> 02:06:57,700
over two years ago has taken a

3395
02:06:57,700 --> 02:06:59,800
lot of work prior to the audit

3396
02:06:59,800 --> 02:07:00,230
including working on us as a

3397
02:07:00,230 --> 02:07:02,170
plan as well as looking at ways

3398
02:07:02,170 --> 02:07:03,190
in which we can better risk

3399
02:07:03,190 --> 02:07:06,190
rate across the 180 or so

3400
02:07:07,700 --> 02:07:08,200
buildings across the asset

3401
02:07:08,200 --> 02:07:10,300
portfolio. And so we're

3402
02:07:10,300 --> 02:07:11,250
continuing to bring that work

3403
02:07:11,250 --> 02:07:13,110
forward this fall as we begin

3404
02:07:13,110 --> 02:07:15,150
to implement these audits we

3405
02:07:15,150 --> 02:07:17,600
accept the findings and I'm

3406
02:07:17,600 --> 02:07:18,170
happy to answer your questions

3407
02:07:18,170 --> 02:07:20,417
. Thank >> you for the

3408
02:07:21,290 --> 02:07:23,429
presentation. Thank you, joe

3409
02:07:24,400 --> 02:07:26,110
allison and eric. Toni, do we

3410
02:07:26,110 --> 02:07:27,120
have any members of the public

3411
02:07:27,120 --> 02:07:29,800
who wish to speak? Yes, america

3412
02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:30,260
come on down followed by brian

3413
02:07:30,260 --> 02:07:32,260
online

3414
02:07:42,900 --> 02:07:44,250
. >> I want to call out the

3415
02:07:44,250 --> 02:07:47,800
city of san jose for violating

3416
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:48,260
the brown act. You have an

3417
02:07:48,260 --> 02:07:51,130
agenda housing items that need

3418
02:07:51,130 --> 02:07:53,200
to be vetted by the public as

3419
02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:55,420
consent agenda consent agenda

3420
02:07:56,600 --> 02:07:58,406
usually is for routine >>

3421
02:07:59,220 --> 02:08:01,240
spending as well as something

3422
02:08:01,240 --> 02:08:03,150
that has been vetted by

3423
02:08:03,150 --> 02:08:05,415
appointed or elected bodies

3424
02:08:06,700 --> 02:08:08,000
such as in this item it should

3425
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:10,160
not be in review again probably

3426
02:08:10,160 --> 02:08:12,140
because your committee in

3427
02:08:12,140 --> 02:08:14,130
economics voted for something

3428
02:08:14,130 --> 02:08:16,130
against >> the governments.

3429
02:08:17,900 --> 02:08:18,260
well so now you're putting a

3430
02:08:18,260 --> 02:08:20,240
here and also I want to call it

3431
02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:22,700
out >> that you got to stay on

3432
02:08:22,700 --> 02:08:23,160
this item is the housing

3433
02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:25,110
department loan portfolio audit

3434
02:08:25,110 --> 02:08:26,160
could you please stick to this

3435
02:08:26,160 --> 02:08:27,150
item? It isn't clear to

3436
02:08:27,150 --> 02:08:29,400
everyone I am. It should not

3437
02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:30,270
have been split back in the

3438
02:08:30,270 --> 02:08:33,500
open agenda. Also why is it

3439
02:08:33,500 --> 02:08:34,250
that you guys are lending your

3440
02:08:34,250 --> 02:08:37,210
property taxes >> as loans to

3441
02:08:37,210 --> 02:08:40,210
developers that is against the

3442
02:08:40,210 --> 02:08:42,900
will of your people? Did you

3443
02:08:42,900 --> 02:08:44,700
guys check with your property

3444
02:08:44,700 --> 02:08:47,700
payers tax? >> thank you that

3445
02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:50,612
your time? Brian darby it's

3446
02:08:55,300 --> 02:08:56,160
sorry about getting on there it

3447
02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:57,230
was well written report thank

3448
02:08:57,230 --> 02:09:00,230
you. Back to council all >>

3449
02:09:02,130 --> 02:09:03,700
right coming back to the

3450
02:09:03,700 --> 02:09:06,700
council thank you all start

3451
02:09:07,180 --> 02:09:09,180
with councilmember >>. Thank

3452
02:09:11,190 --> 02:09:13,100
you as always I'd like to thank

3453
02:09:13,100 --> 02:09:15,110
the auditor and his team for

3454
02:09:15,110 --> 02:09:16,220
good report and also for the

3455
02:09:16,220 --> 02:09:18,180
briefings. I always find them

3456
02:09:18,180 --> 02:09:20,100
very, very informative. I can

3457
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:22,110
ask all my questions and you

3458
02:09:22,110 --> 02:09:24,210
know it's it's very good. So

3459
02:09:24,210 --> 02:09:26,210
thank you for that. I also want

3460
02:09:26,210 --> 02:09:27,280
to thank the housing department

3461
02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:30,230
for answering my questions. I

3462
02:09:30,230 --> 02:09:33,190
did note that some of the there

3463
02:09:33,190 --> 02:09:35,300
were some vacancies during a

3464
02:09:35,300 --> 02:09:36,100
previous time. I was just

3465
02:09:36,100 --> 02:09:38,700
curious if those vacancies have

3466
02:09:38,700 --> 02:09:40,260
been filled and allow you to

3467
02:09:40,260 --> 02:09:42,160
get to some of your target

3468
02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:44,200
completion dates as is

3469
02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:46,120
mentioned in the report >>

3470
02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:47,230
of the two vacancies one has

3471
02:09:47,230 --> 02:09:49,800
already been filled, the other

3472
02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:50,260
were pending an offer to be

3473
02:09:50,260 --> 02:09:52,426
made. Wonderful. Well with >>

3474
02:09:53,100 --> 02:09:57,600
that I'd like to move the the

3475
02:09:57,600 --> 02:09:59,260
item and the report and just

3476
02:09:59,260 --> 02:10:02,110
thank you for your information.

3477
02:10:02,110 --> 02:10:04,411
second >> thank you, councilor

3478
02:10:05,220 --> 02:10:07,422
accomplice >> thank you, mayor.

3479
02:10:09,150 --> 02:10:10,210
I do just want to thank staff

3480
02:10:10,210 --> 02:10:12,500
for this work and for the

3481
02:10:12,500 --> 02:10:14,000
presentation with just one

3482
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:17,000
question can the city council

3483
02:10:17,600 --> 02:10:20,200
receive an update for when the

3484
02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:22,400
policy for addressing tenants

3485
02:10:22,400 --> 02:10:24,500
that exceed or fall below

3486
02:10:24,500 --> 02:10:25,190
income limits in affordable

3487
02:10:25,190 --> 02:10:28,190
units is developed because as

3488
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:31,300
some folks may be concerned

3489
02:10:31,300 --> 02:10:33,200
with displacement impacts and

3490
02:10:33,200 --> 02:10:34,600
would like to understand how

3491
02:10:34,600 --> 02:10:35,900
the housing department might

3492
02:10:35,900 --> 02:10:36,800
prevent or mitigate

3493
02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:38,100
displacement of these tenants.

3494
02:10:38,100 --> 02:10:38,280
yes, we can come back and

3495
02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:40,800
report but again I know that

3496
02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:41,180
the housing department even if

3497
02:10:41,180 --> 02:10:43,210
we find those instances

3498
02:10:43,210 --> 02:10:45,200
of noncompliance of above or

3499
02:10:45,200 --> 02:10:46,260
below income, we can't take any

3500
02:10:46,260 --> 02:10:48,280
action. We just give notice to

3501
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:50,110
the owner or property manager

3502
02:10:50,110 --> 02:10:51,230
and it's on them to then take

3503
02:10:51,230 --> 02:10:53,270
action. So we can't require

3504
02:10:53,270 --> 02:10:56,700
moves, we can't require

3505
02:10:56,700 --> 02:10:57,270
disposition. We can require

3506
02:10:57,270 --> 02:10:59,180
resolution. All we do is check

3507
02:10:59,180 --> 02:11:01,110
and notice this is part of sort

3508
02:11:01,110 --> 02:11:03,300
of the awkward setting that we

3509
02:11:03,300 --> 02:11:04,200
have in the department. >>

3510
02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:05,250
thank you. I think that

3511
02:11:05,250 --> 02:11:07,270
information would be important

3512
02:11:07,270 --> 02:11:09,500
for us to consider future

3513
02:11:09,500 --> 02:11:11,405
policymaking. Thank you and

3514
02:11:13,270 --> 02:11:15,140
great thanks councilmember.

3515
02:11:15,140 --> 02:11:16,130
just want to also thank you for

3516
02:11:16,130 --> 02:11:17,260
the audit. Joe, as always you

3517
02:11:17,260 --> 02:11:19,400
and your team do excellent work

3518
02:11:19,400 --> 02:11:20,280
and I think you have two very

3519
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:22,110
specific and actionable

3520
02:11:22,110 --> 02:11:23,260
recommendations here that are

3521
02:11:23,260 --> 02:11:26,170
material to the city. So

3522
02:11:26,170 --> 02:11:27,270
there's a great audit and

3523
02:11:27,270 --> 02:11:28,260
appreciate the housing

3524
02:11:28,260 --> 02:11:31,600
department's follow up. Do we

3525
02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:32,290
have any >> other hands not

3526
02:11:32,290 --> 02:11:35,110
seen the other colleagues? So

3527
02:11:35,110 --> 02:11:38,110
toni, let's vote. Motion >>

3528
02:11:47,300 --> 02:11:48,150
passes unanimously with casey

3529
02:11:48,150 --> 02:11:51,150
absent. >> thank you. Thank you

3530
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:54,120
all. Okay, rhonda, item 7.1

3531
02:11:54,120 --> 02:11:56,200
this is the city's response to

3532
02:11:56,200 --> 02:11:57,120
the santa clara county civil

3533
02:11:57,120 --> 02:11:59,412
grand jury report entitled >>

3534
02:12:00,100 --> 02:12:02,110
san jose animal care center the

3535
02:12:02,110 --> 02:12:03,270
need to strengthen

3536
02:12:03,270 --> 02:12:05,260
transparency, performance and

3537
02:12:05,260 --> 02:12:08,200
trust. We'll start with the

3538
02:12:08,200 --> 02:12:10,200
staff presentation >>

3539
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:37,800
. >> good afternoon. I'm matt.

3540
02:12:37,110 --> 02:12:38,600
I'm the director of public

3541
02:12:38,600 --> 02:12:39,100
works and with me is monica

3542
02:12:39,100 --> 02:12:41,000
wiley, the deputy director for

3543
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:44,000
animal care and services. We

3544
02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:45,600
will have a very brief

3545
02:12:45,600 --> 02:12:46,200
presentation to highlight some

3546
02:12:46,200 --> 02:12:47,260
of the findings and or

3547
02:12:47,260 --> 02:12:49,900
recommendations included in the

3548
02:12:49,900 --> 02:12:51,150
civil grand jury report that

3549
02:12:51,150 --> 02:12:54,615
was submitted to us in may.

3550
02:12:55,500 --> 02:12:56,300
first, we'd like to thank the

3551
02:12:56,300 --> 02:12:57,110
civil grand jury for their

3552
02:12:57,110 --> 02:12:59,300
review and investigation and

3553
02:12:59,300 --> 02:13:01,200
report for recommendations for

3554
02:13:01,200 --> 02:13:02,280
improvements at the animal care

3555
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:04,270
center and our services that we

3556
02:13:04,270 --> 02:13:06,240
provide to the public. We also

3557
02:13:06,240 --> 02:13:07,200
want to thank them for their

3558
02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:08,260
acknowledgment of the progress

3559
02:13:08,260 --> 02:13:09,280
that's been made and the

3560
02:13:09,280 --> 02:13:11,300
commitment that we have to

3561
02:13:11,300 --> 02:13:13,110
improving our services to our

3562
02:13:13,110 --> 02:13:14,230
animals and to the people that

3563
02:13:14,230 --> 02:13:16,900
care for our animals. You'll

3564
02:13:16,900 --> 02:13:17,180
see that there's five findings

3565
02:13:17,180 --> 02:13:18,150
and the way this is structured

3566
02:13:18,150 --> 02:13:19,120
as you know because you did the

3567
02:13:19,120 --> 02:13:21,000
civil grand jury report last

3568
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:22,180
week for one of them you have

3569
02:13:22,180 --> 02:13:23,250
civil war in the next couple

3570
02:13:23,250 --> 02:13:26,625
of weeks. The there's five

3571
02:13:27,170 --> 02:13:28,120
findings which we have to

3572
02:13:28,120 --> 02:13:29,260
respond if we agree, disagree

3573
02:13:29,260 --> 02:13:31,700
or partially in total and then

3574
02:13:31,700 --> 02:13:32,900
we have recommendations whether

3575
02:13:32,900 --> 02:13:33,150
they're implemented partially

3576
02:13:33,150 --> 02:13:34,900
or when they're going to be

3577
02:13:34,900 --> 02:13:35,260
implemented. So first just a

3578
02:13:35,260 --> 02:13:36,170
quick slide of all the

3579
02:13:36,170 --> 02:13:38,160
findings. We agree with all

3580
02:13:38,160 --> 02:13:40,100
of the findings that they have

3581
02:13:40,100 --> 02:13:41,700
except for one we partially

3582
02:13:41,700 --> 02:13:43,300
disagree and that's because we

3583
02:13:43,300 --> 02:13:44,260
think it's factually different

3584
02:13:44,260 --> 02:13:47,280
that we did not the number

3585
02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:50,240
of animals two taken by rescues

3586
02:13:50,240 --> 02:13:52,160
declined since 2001 they did

3587
02:13:52,160 --> 02:13:53,260
with cats but not with dogs.

3588
02:13:53,260 --> 02:13:55,110
dogs actually increased quite a

3589
02:13:55,110 --> 02:13:57,411
bit since 2021. So digging

3590
02:14:00,180 --> 02:14:03,618
deeper a little bit here on

3591
02:14:04,260 --> 02:14:06,110
finding one they recommended

3592
02:14:06,110 --> 02:14:07,100
the finding was that there was

3593
02:14:07,100 --> 02:14:08,180
a ventilation system error in

3594
02:14:08,180 --> 02:14:10,290
the facility. That's true. It

3595
02:14:10,290 --> 02:14:12,130
was a facility piece that was

3596
02:14:12,130 --> 02:14:14,200
under repair and there was an

3597
02:14:14,200 --> 02:14:15,800
improvement being done at the

3598
02:14:15,800 --> 02:14:16,210
time there were no animals in

3599
02:14:16,210 --> 02:14:18,290
the room. We got our facilities

3600
02:14:18,290 --> 02:14:20,700
folks out there and remediated

3601
02:14:20,700 --> 02:14:23,200
that that next week finding two

3602
02:14:23,200 --> 02:14:24,150
was the animals rescue partners

3603
02:14:24,150 --> 02:14:25,100
declined to that's where we

3604
02:14:25,100 --> 02:14:27,150
disagreed and pardon the

3605
02:14:27,150 --> 02:14:28,180
recommendation is that he needs

3606
02:14:28,180 --> 02:14:29,290
to develop a plan and timeline

3607
02:14:29,290 --> 02:14:31,260
to repair to expand the

3608
02:14:31,260 --> 02:14:33,100
relationship. We have expanded

3609
02:14:33,100 --> 02:14:34,180
relationships. We have more

3610
02:14:34,180 --> 02:14:35,290
relationships last year that

3611
02:14:35,290 --> 02:14:37,110
doesn't mean the animals. So

3612
02:14:37,110 --> 02:14:38,170
the relationship with different

3613
02:14:38,170 --> 02:14:39,230
rescue partners was actually

3614
02:14:39,230 --> 02:14:41,900
at its highest point last year

3615
02:14:41,900 --> 02:14:42,160
than it was in the last five

3616
02:14:42,160 --> 02:14:45,100
years. This is an evergreen

3617
02:14:45,100 --> 02:14:46,160
process. We need to continue to

3618
02:14:46,160 --> 02:14:47,220
work on relationships like

3619
02:14:47,220 --> 02:14:49,280
every relationship some in the

3620
02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:52,110
past we've had relationships

3621
02:14:52,110 --> 02:14:53,270
go away where they weren't

3622
02:14:53,270 --> 02:14:54,280
pleased with working with us

3623
02:14:54,280 --> 02:14:56,260
for a period and then those in

3624
02:14:56,260 --> 02:14:58,110
this last year have returned.

3625
02:14:58,110 --> 02:15:00,100
we have new relationships that

3626
02:15:00,100 --> 02:15:01,160
were added. In fact one of the

3627
02:15:01,160 --> 02:15:04,160
dog rescues pulled more animals

3628
02:15:04,250 --> 02:15:07,900
from us than any species across

3629
02:15:07,900 --> 02:15:09,000
any group in the last five

3630
02:15:09,000 --> 02:15:10,800
years in a single year just

3631
02:15:10,800 --> 02:15:13,800
last year alone finding three

3632
02:15:14,120 --> 02:15:15,250
the current provisions of spay

3633
02:15:15,250 --> 02:15:17,700
neuter is insufficient. We

3634
02:15:17,700 --> 02:15:19,300
agree we should expand public

3635
02:15:19,300 --> 02:15:21,100
to spay neuter either at the

3636
02:15:21,100 --> 02:15:22,150
shelter or to community service

3637
02:15:22,150 --> 02:15:24,200
partners. That's true. We agree

3638
02:15:24,200 --> 02:15:25,500
we have implemented that. We

3639
02:15:25,500 --> 02:15:27,200
have had more surgeries. Each

3640
02:15:27,200 --> 02:15:28,300
of the last three years than

3641
02:15:28,300 --> 02:15:30,270
the preceding year and we need

3642
02:15:30,270 --> 02:15:32,400
to continue to do more and

3643
02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:33,200
staff is committed to

3644
02:15:33,200 --> 02:15:34,200
increasing that and council

3645
02:15:34,200 --> 02:15:36,100
provided us additional

3646
02:15:36,100 --> 02:15:38,200
resources this budget cycle for

3647
02:15:38,200 --> 02:15:39,100
additional spay neuter

3648
02:15:39,100 --> 02:15:41,100
relationships funding funding

3649
02:15:42,100 --> 02:15:45,610
for we have changed some data

3650
02:15:46,170 --> 02:15:48,417
categories and historically not

3651
02:15:49,140 --> 02:15:51,700
consistently noted them. We

3652
02:15:51,700 --> 02:15:52,400
agree that we changed

3653
02:15:52,400 --> 02:15:54,240
categories. We did note them in

3654
02:15:54,240 --> 02:15:56,180
our annual report. One of the

3655
02:15:56,180 --> 02:15:58,140
things that we in a way

3656
02:15:58,140 --> 02:15:59,220
disagreed with what the civil

3657
02:15:59,220 --> 02:16:01,600
grand jury said and pointing to

3658
02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:02,800
what we have in terms of our

3659
02:16:02,800 --> 02:16:03,140
public data and our public

3660
02:16:03,140 --> 02:16:05,000
portals in terms of what the

3661
02:16:05,000 --> 02:16:07,110
actual true information is. For

3662
02:16:07,110 --> 02:16:09,200
example, the city must provide

3663
02:16:09,200 --> 02:16:10,110
accurate, clear complete data

3664
02:16:10,110 --> 02:16:11,260
to the public to assess a

3665
02:16:11,260 --> 02:16:14,700
performance. One of the things

3666
02:16:14,700 --> 02:16:16,300
we've chosen to do is lean

3667
02:16:16,300 --> 02:16:17,290
forward and be very progressive

3668
02:16:17,290 --> 02:16:19,100
about our data going out with

3669
02:16:19,100 --> 02:16:20,210
an open data portal in real

3670
02:16:20,210 --> 02:16:22,100
time. That means as the

3671
02:16:22,100 --> 02:16:23,170
condition of the animals change

3672
02:16:23,170 --> 02:16:25,400
over time we have to change the

3673
02:16:25,400 --> 02:16:26,700
information we have into the

3674
02:16:26,700 --> 02:16:28,280
public. The way I think of this

3675
02:16:28,280 --> 02:16:30,200
in the way staff thinks about

3676
02:16:30,200 --> 02:16:32,160
this is is if a person going

3677
02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:33,180
into the hospital they go in

3678
02:16:33,180 --> 02:16:35,300
one condition and things

3679
02:16:35,300 --> 02:16:36,210
change. They sometimes improve,

3680
02:16:36,210 --> 02:16:38,120
they sometimes decline,

3681
02:16:38,120 --> 02:16:39,160
sometimes they have to go to

3682
02:16:39,160 --> 02:16:40,220
another place before they end

3683
02:16:40,220 --> 02:16:42,130
up going home to a foster

3684
02:16:42,130 --> 02:16:44,000
system or a foster care or

3685
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:45,700
something like that. So it

3686
02:16:45,700 --> 02:16:46,270
changes quite a bit as we see

3687
02:16:46,270 --> 02:16:49,240
it now in our response back in

3688
02:16:49,240 --> 02:16:52,400
the memo it was I want to think

3689
02:16:52,400 --> 02:16:54,110
that it's clear that our annual

3690
02:16:54,110 --> 02:16:55,250
report, our annual reporting

3691
02:16:55,250 --> 02:16:57,900
numbers are the true audited

3692
02:16:57,900 --> 02:16:58,210
numbers for the animals that we

3693
02:16:58,210 --> 02:17:00,230
served over the period of that

3694
02:17:00,230 --> 02:17:03,100
past year. Any in the

3695
02:17:03,100 --> 02:17:04,160
intermittent time it changes

3696
02:17:04,160 --> 02:17:05,240
quite a bit. So yes we change

3697
02:17:05,240 --> 02:17:06,250
it. We don't indicate every

3698
02:17:06,250 --> 02:17:08,180
single time we change. Whereas

3699
02:17:08,180 --> 02:17:11,190
last fiscal year when we we

3700
02:17:11,190 --> 02:17:13,160
presented our annual report we

3701
02:17:13,160 --> 02:17:15,110
noted that we had to in

3702
02:17:15,110 --> 02:17:17,100
alignment with the city audit

3703
02:17:17,100 --> 02:17:19,130
to align our data practices. We

3704
02:17:19,130 --> 02:17:20,190
had to adjust the data

3705
02:17:20,190 --> 02:17:21,180
categories and the data

3706
02:17:21,180 --> 02:17:23,100
reporting structures and we did

3707
02:17:23,100 --> 02:17:24,220
that for the prior year as

3708
02:17:24,220 --> 02:17:26,200
well. So we had two ways to

3709
02:17:26,200 --> 02:17:28,700
compare apples to apples fiscal

3710
02:17:28,700 --> 02:17:30,110
year over fiscal year. Item

3711
02:17:30,110 --> 02:17:31,250
four be worse as I will not be

3712
02:17:31,250 --> 02:17:32,270
implemented. This is something

3713
02:17:32,270 --> 02:17:34,300
that was at contention during

3714
02:17:34,300 --> 02:17:35,290
our audit and that we came to

3715
02:17:35,290 --> 02:17:37,280
an agreement with the seattle

3716
02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:39,800
city auditor about how we would

3717
02:17:39,800 --> 02:17:42,608
present our ability to show how

3718
02:17:43,100 --> 02:17:44,180
what our capacity is at any

3719
02:17:44,180 --> 02:17:47,140
given time as it's listed in

3720
02:17:47,140 --> 02:17:49,240
the report by the civil grand

3721
02:17:49,240 --> 02:17:52,130
jury. It's extremely tricky to

3722
02:17:52,130 --> 02:17:53,260
say what is our capacity? It's

3723
02:17:53,260 --> 02:17:55,160
not the amount of cages that we

3724
02:17:55,160 --> 02:17:56,260
have. It's not the amount

3725
02:17:56,260 --> 02:17:58,700
of professionals that we have.

3726
02:17:58,700 --> 02:18:00,200
it's it's also the the

3727
02:18:00,200 --> 02:18:01,100
condition of the animals that

3728
02:18:01,100 --> 02:18:02,140
we have. And so it's an

3729
02:18:02,140 --> 02:18:03,290
algorithm how do you get the

3730
02:18:03,290 --> 02:18:06,100
data system to present it? It's

3731
02:18:06,100 --> 02:18:08,100
an incredibly labor intensive

3732
02:18:08,100 --> 02:18:09,190
to make that happen in any

3733
02:18:09,190 --> 02:18:11,230
meaningful way. What we agreed

3734
02:18:11,230 --> 02:18:14,500
to is have a a status a shelter

3735
02:18:14,500 --> 02:18:15,160
update dashboard that shows how

3736
02:18:15,160 --> 02:18:16,160
many animals are in the

3737
02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:18,120
building at any given time and

3738
02:18:18,120 --> 02:18:19,140
that gets presented and there's

3739
02:18:19,140 --> 02:18:21,120
a dashboard for that to say

3740
02:18:21,120 --> 02:18:22,220
that we have because the

3741
02:18:22,220 --> 02:18:24,150
condition at some point the

3742
02:18:24,150 --> 02:18:27,600
number of kennels is 530 but

3743
02:18:27,600 --> 02:18:28,200
that doesn't mean we can care

3744
02:18:28,200 --> 02:18:30,200
for 530 animals responsibly

3745
02:18:30,700 --> 02:18:32,200
at any given time if they're in

3746
02:18:32,200 --> 02:18:34,110
a condition that is severely

3747
02:18:34,110 --> 02:18:35,260
negative. We need a lot more

3748
02:18:35,260 --> 02:18:37,160
staff time to do it or if we

3749
02:18:37,160 --> 02:18:40,400
have a smaller staff staffing

3750
02:18:40,400 --> 02:18:41,190
at any given time we might not

3751
02:18:41,190 --> 02:18:42,200
be able to care for as many

3752
02:18:42,200 --> 02:18:44,200
animals so that get capability

3753
02:18:44,200 --> 02:18:46,000
of conditioning of caring for

3754
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:48,400
them is can be very tricky to

3755
02:18:48,400 --> 02:18:49,260
get a data system to present

3756
02:18:49,260 --> 02:18:52,626
our ability and then the other

3757
02:18:53,200 --> 02:18:56,270
ones are implemented as we get

3758
02:18:56,270 --> 02:18:58,240
going through each and then the

3759
02:18:58,240 --> 02:19:00,230
last one is the four d the city

3760
02:19:00,230 --> 02:19:02,423
should issue the number

3761
02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:04,260
of animals that were turned

3762
02:19:04,260 --> 02:19:07,200
away. We have been collecting

3763
02:19:07,200 --> 02:19:09,700
information and the question is

3764
02:19:09,700 --> 02:19:10,170
do we have it ready to present

3765
02:19:10,170 --> 02:19:11,280
into a dashboard so the public

3766
02:19:11,280 --> 02:19:13,290
can see how many we turn away

3767
02:19:13,290 --> 02:19:15,800
at any given time. We don't

3768
02:19:15,800 --> 02:19:18,100
have that system built yet. It

3769
02:19:18,100 --> 02:19:19,120
came in this recommendation and

3770
02:19:19,120 --> 02:19:20,210
as it's transitioning over to

3771
02:19:20,210 --> 02:19:23,700
pyrenees well I wanted to give

3772
02:19:23,700 --> 02:19:25,140
staff time some some time to

3773
02:19:25,140 --> 02:19:26,290
figure out how to transition

3774
02:19:26,290 --> 02:19:27,250
the information that they're

3775
02:19:27,250 --> 02:19:29,100
gathering and what's the

3776
02:19:29,100 --> 02:19:30,260
appropriate place or pace to

3777
02:19:30,260 --> 02:19:32,260
report out how many animals

3778
02:19:32,260 --> 02:19:34,250
they turn away that are healthy

3779
02:19:34,250 --> 02:19:35,230
at any given time due to the

3780
02:19:35,230 --> 02:19:37,423
capacity in the building >>

3781
02:19:39,250 --> 02:19:41,100
five there's a trust gap

3782
02:19:41,100 --> 02:19:44,100
between animal care and some

3783
02:19:44,100 --> 02:19:46,200
and yes that's true. I would

3784
02:19:46,200 --> 02:19:47,210
say that's true of almost any

3785
02:19:47,210 --> 02:19:48,250
relationship at times there's

3786
02:19:48,250 --> 02:19:50,220
trust gaps and we continue to

3787
02:19:50,220 --> 02:19:51,280
work on it. We have worked on

3788
02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:53,500
it. We will continue to work on

3789
02:19:53,500 --> 02:19:55,900
it. Monika has brought in our

3790
02:19:55,900 --> 02:19:56,240
community forums and there's

3791
02:19:56,240 --> 02:19:58,250
been there's three cycles that

3792
02:19:58,250 --> 02:19:59,260
have happened. We keep pushing

3793
02:19:59,260 --> 02:20:00,240
on more. They've got more

3794
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:02,190
scheduled through the fall. It

3795
02:20:02,190 --> 02:20:04,100
is a commitment of animal care

3796
02:20:04,100 --> 02:20:06,100
staff to ensure that we

3797
02:20:06,100 --> 02:20:07,500
continue to work on the

3798
02:20:07,500 --> 02:20:08,100
relationship with the goal

3799
02:20:08,100 --> 02:20:09,800
of having a relationship

3800
02:20:09,800 --> 02:20:11,270
of trust. That takes time. We

3801
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:13,100
obviously have harmed that

3802
02:20:13,100 --> 02:20:14,100
relationship over time and so

3803
02:20:14,100 --> 02:20:15,190
we need to build that over time

3804
02:20:15,190 --> 02:20:18,190
with confidence. One of the

3805
02:20:18,220 --> 02:20:20,700
things they asked for is a

3806
02:20:20,700 --> 02:20:21,220
public report on the audit

3807
02:20:21,220 --> 02:20:23,600
findings. We believe that's

3808
02:20:23,600 --> 02:20:24,230
implemented because one the

3809
02:20:24,230 --> 02:20:26,800
city order published all of the

3810
02:20:26,800 --> 02:20:27,200
things that we did on all

3811
02:20:27,200 --> 02:20:29,800
of our audit items and we did

3812
02:20:29,800 --> 02:20:30,700
the unprecedented thing. I

3813
02:20:30,700 --> 02:20:31,500
don't think there's any audit

3814
02:20:31,500 --> 02:20:32,160
that has a public web page with

3815
02:20:32,160 --> 02:20:34,500
all of the documents presented

3816
02:20:34,500 --> 02:20:35,120
in one place with all of the

3817
02:20:35,120 --> 02:20:36,150
things that were produced as a

3818
02:20:36,150 --> 02:20:38,100
result of that audit it still

3819
02:20:38,100 --> 02:20:39,100
stands today that will stay up

3820
02:20:39,100 --> 02:20:40,260
for a while. It should stay up

3821
02:20:40,260 --> 02:20:41,290
in perpetuity until we change

3822
02:20:41,290 --> 02:20:43,200
policies and do something

3823
02:20:43,200 --> 02:20:45,200
different. The community

3824
02:20:45,290 --> 02:20:47,140
advisory committee and talking

3825
02:20:47,140 --> 02:20:50,900
with both john cicero here the

3826
02:20:50,900 --> 02:20:52,400
parks rec and rex and

3827
02:20:52,400 --> 02:20:53,800
neighborhood services and

3828
02:20:53,800 --> 02:20:55,100
monica they do want this and so

3829
02:20:55,100 --> 02:20:55,280
this is something they're going

3830
02:20:55,280 --> 02:20:57,150
to build over the fall with a

3831
02:20:57,150 --> 02:20:58,270
commitment of having built up a

3832
02:20:58,270 --> 02:21:00,170
team to have their community

3833
02:21:00,170 --> 02:21:01,260
advisory group. They will have

3834
02:21:01,260 --> 02:21:03,000
that in place before the end

3835
02:21:03,000 --> 02:21:05,000
of the calendar year and then

3836
02:21:05,000 --> 02:21:06,700
public needs assessment. We've

3837
02:21:06,700 --> 02:21:07,160
wanted to do this for many

3838
02:21:07,160 --> 02:21:09,170
years. It just hasn't reached

3839
02:21:09,170 --> 02:21:11,270
to the priority that we need to

3840
02:21:11,270 --> 02:21:13,400
get that achieve. We could get

3841
02:21:13,400 --> 02:21:14,700
that achieved right now we had

3842
02:21:14,700 --> 02:21:15,190
too many other urgent things to

3843
02:21:15,190 --> 02:21:18,600
work on and so we do think this

3844
02:21:18,600 --> 02:21:19,100
is good because if we are

3845
02:21:19,100 --> 02:21:20,180
shooting for more spay and

3846
02:21:20,180 --> 02:21:22,110
neuter or for more services we

3847
02:21:22,110 --> 02:21:23,180
need to really understand what

3848
02:21:23,180 --> 02:21:25,170
that community need is to know

3849
02:21:25,170 --> 02:21:27,300
what goal we're shooting at and

3850
02:21:27,300 --> 02:21:28,270
to define and provide you the

3851
02:21:28,270 --> 02:21:30,200
direction the opportunity to

3852
02:21:30,200 --> 02:21:32,500
say we want san jose to be this

3853
02:21:32,500 --> 02:21:34,100
part of that problem set and so

3854
02:21:34,100 --> 02:21:36,150
that community assessment and

3855
02:21:36,150 --> 02:21:38,200
that survey we have a there's a

3856
02:21:38,200 --> 02:21:39,230
study period to see if we have

3857
02:21:39,230 --> 02:21:40,260
all the right resources and

3858
02:21:40,260 --> 02:21:42,700
tools to do it. If we don't

3859
02:21:42,700 --> 02:21:44,800
have it will come to you in the

3860
02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:45,180
fiscal year for the budget to

3861
02:21:45,180 --> 02:21:46,210
make sure that we get allocated

3862
02:21:46,210 --> 02:21:48,250
resources to pull that off

3863
02:21:48,250 --> 02:21:51,160
again, we like to think so as

3864
02:21:51,160 --> 02:21:53,100
noted in both my report and

3865
02:21:53,100 --> 02:21:55,401
other places, the shelter

3866
02:21:56,800 --> 02:21:57,160
animal care and services has

3867
02:21:57,160 --> 02:21:58,230
transitioned to the parks

3868
02:21:58,230 --> 02:21:59,220
recreation and neighborhood

3869
02:21:59,220 --> 02:22:01,250
services department. We hope

3870
02:22:01,250 --> 02:22:03,600
we've set a foundation from

3871
02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:04,500
which they can continue to

3872
02:22:04,500 --> 02:22:06,800
grow. We appreciate the grand

3873
02:22:06,800 --> 02:22:07,190
jury's recommendations and this

3874
02:22:07,190 --> 02:22:09,000
opportunity to reflect on the

3875
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:10,230
progress we've made. We welcome

3876
02:22:10,230 --> 02:22:12,140
your questions. >> thanks,

3877
02:22:12,140 --> 02:22:13,210
matt. Monica, appreciate the

3878
02:22:13,210 --> 02:22:14,220
response. Thank you to the

3879
02:22:14,220 --> 02:22:16,210
grand jury for your report >>

3880
02:22:16,210 --> 02:22:17,230
toni, let's go to public

3881
02:22:17,230 --> 02:22:20,230
comment first. Okay? Again, as

3882
02:22:23,900 --> 02:22:24,700
a reminder, speakers must

3883
02:22:24,700 --> 02:22:25,700
comply with the city's code of

3884
02:22:25,700 --> 02:22:26,140
conduct for public meetings.

3885
02:22:26,140 --> 02:22:28,600
please come comments to the

3886
02:22:28,600 --> 02:22:29,140
body limit remarks to the

3887
02:22:29,140 --> 02:22:31,300
agenda item and observe the

3888
02:22:31,300 --> 02:22:32,170
time limit conduct that

3889
02:22:32,170 --> 02:22:34,200
materially disrupts the meeting

3890
02:22:34,200 --> 02:22:35,300
or interferes with others

3891
02:22:35,300 --> 02:22:36,170
ability to participate may

3892
02:22:36,170 --> 02:22:38,400
result in muting or removal as

3893
02:22:38,400 --> 02:22:39,190
authorized by law. I'm going to

3894
02:22:39,190 --> 02:22:40,210
start with the in-person

3895
02:22:40,210 --> 02:22:42,230
speakers why don't you hear

3896
02:22:42,230 --> 02:22:44,210
your name? Come on down first

3897
02:22:44,210 --> 02:22:45,190
person on the microphone

3898
02:22:45,190 --> 02:22:46,160
go ahead and speak the others

3899
02:22:46,160 --> 02:22:48,120
line up behind that person I

3900
02:22:48,120 --> 02:22:51,120
have samuel dana hayes, lynn

3901
02:22:53,180 --> 02:22:56,180
paulson and and lynn bell. >>

3902
02:22:58,400 --> 02:23:01,604
come on down. Hello. My >> name

3903
02:23:05,100 --> 02:23:06,130
is lynn paulson. I spoke to you

3904
02:23:06,130 --> 02:23:07,260
twice in the last year about

3905
02:23:07,260 --> 02:23:09,400
issues when I tried to rescue

3906
02:23:09,400 --> 02:23:10,900
two different dogs from being

3907
02:23:10,900 --> 02:23:11,160
killed at the san jose animal

3908
02:23:11,160 --> 02:23:13,290
care center. I if you plan to

3909
02:23:13,290 --> 02:23:15,200
move >> forward from the grand

3910
02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:16,120
jury report, it's important

3911
02:23:16,120 --> 02:23:17,700
that you increase your

3912
02:23:17,700 --> 02:23:19,100
engagement as the animal care

3913
02:23:19,100 --> 02:23:20,160
center moves to this different

3914
02:23:20,160 --> 02:23:22,200
administrative department. I've

3915
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:23,290
sent you a letter indicating

3916
02:23:23,290 --> 02:23:25,210
thanks for some actions

3917
02:23:25,210 --> 02:23:27,700
director wiley and the center

3918
02:23:27,700 --> 02:23:29,000
have taken but also listing

3919
02:23:29,000 --> 02:23:31,190
some open issues. Too many cats

3920
02:23:31,190 --> 02:23:33,900
and dogs are being killed in

3921
02:23:33,900 --> 02:23:36,800
the last fiscal year 154 dogs,

3922
02:23:36,800 --> 02:23:38,408
715 cats and 496 kittens were

3923
02:23:39,250 --> 02:23:41,190
killed. There may be a newly

3924
02:23:41,190 --> 02:23:43,160
documented euthanasia process

3925
02:23:43,160 --> 02:23:45,100
but the detailed criteria have

3926
02:23:45,100 --> 02:23:47,800
not yet been made transparent.

3927
02:23:47,800 --> 02:23:48,210
there's not enough being done

3928
02:23:48,210 --> 02:23:50,600
to stop the incoming volume

3929
02:23:50,600 --> 02:23:51,230
of animals such as the actions

3930
02:23:51,230 --> 02:23:53,110
they referred to. We need to

3931
02:23:53,110 --> 02:23:54,270
increase the spay and neuter

3932
02:23:54,270 --> 02:23:56,290
services. >> there are too many

3933
02:23:56,290 --> 02:23:58,210
cases of retribution towards

3934
02:23:58,210 --> 02:24:00,300
staff or volunteers who've been

3935
02:24:00,300 --> 02:24:01,280
summarily dismissed. Please

3936
02:24:01,280 --> 02:24:03,600
listen to the community. We

3937
02:24:03,600 --> 02:24:04,150
count on your leadership >> to

3938
02:24:04,150 --> 02:24:06,200
address the issues. Thank you

3939
02:24:06,200 --> 02:24:09,200
that your time next speaker

3940
02:24:09,900 --> 02:24:10,210
also come on down save the

3941
02:24:10,210 --> 02:24:12,210
cats. >> good afternoon.

3942
02:24:16,210 --> 02:24:18,400
my name is dana hayes. I am a

3943
02:24:18,400 --> 02:24:20,160
foster tnr volunteer and an

3944
02:24:20,160 --> 02:24:22,210
advocate first van neuter. Last

3945
02:24:22,210 --> 02:24:25,150
week in district six I worked

3946
02:24:25,150 --> 02:24:27,240
on a hoarding situation with 77

3947
02:24:27,240 --> 02:24:30,624
cats and kittens. This is the

3948
02:24:32,700 --> 02:24:33,220
result of unchecked

3949
02:24:33,220 --> 02:24:35,422
reproduction and I appreciate

3950
02:24:36,110 --> 02:24:37,210
the grand jury's work and

3951
02:24:37,210 --> 02:24:38,270
recognizing the challenges

3952
02:24:38,270 --> 02:24:40,220
faced with animal services. But

3953
02:24:40,220 --> 02:24:41,200
the root of many shelter

3954
02:24:41,200 --> 02:24:43,180
problems is the animal

3955
02:24:43,180 --> 02:24:45,800
overpopulation and we need to

3956
02:24:45,800 --> 02:24:47,400
focus on prevention and turn

3957
02:24:47,400 --> 02:24:48,230
off the faucet rather than

3958
02:24:48,230 --> 02:24:50,140
continually mopping up the

3959
02:24:50,140 --> 02:24:52,160
mess. I recognize there is a

3960
02:24:52,160 --> 02:24:54,130
national veterinarian shortage

3961
02:24:54,130 --> 02:24:55,200
however, with two in-house

3962
02:24:55,200 --> 02:24:57,110
surgery suites not being foley

3963
02:24:57,110 --> 02:24:59,150
utilized and ongoing vacancies,

3964
02:24:59,150 --> 02:25:00,240
there may be other factors

3965
02:25:00,240 --> 02:25:02,180
worth examining. I would urge

3966
02:25:02,180 --> 02:25:04,300
the city auditor to review the

3967
02:25:04,300 --> 02:25:05,130
applicant pool recruitment

3968
02:25:05,130 --> 02:25:07,800
efforts and hiring outcomes to

3969
02:25:07,800 --> 02:25:09,100
identify barriers barriers the

3970
02:25:09,100 --> 02:25:12,500
city can address. I also ask

3971
02:25:12,500 --> 02:25:14,600
that the city reconsider their

3972
02:25:14,600 --> 02:25:17,600
policy >> of grant not hiring

3973
02:25:17,170 --> 02:25:20,800
and >> next speaker amy jahn

3974
02:25:20,800 --> 02:25:23,800
come on down >> and america.

3975
02:25:25,200 --> 02:25:27,700
hello, my name is andy shayne.

3976
02:25:27,700 --> 02:25:28,130
I live in hamilton place in

3977
02:25:28,130 --> 02:25:29,270
willow glen. I've been coming

3978
02:25:29,270 --> 02:25:31,500
to these city council meetings

3979
02:25:31,500 --> 02:25:32,800
for the last few years to

3980
02:25:32,800 --> 02:25:33,260
express my concerns regarding

3981
02:25:33,260 --> 02:25:35,260
the san jose animal shelter.

3982
02:25:35,260 --> 02:25:36,290
when are you guys going to

3983
02:25:36,290 --> 02:25:39,190
finally listen to us? I feel

3984
02:25:39,190 --> 02:25:42,300
this there are many problems

3985
02:25:42,300 --> 02:25:43,800
that affect the animals in

3986
02:25:43,800 --> 02:25:44,110
their care. I feel this is

3987
02:25:44,110 --> 02:25:45,280
foremost due to the management

3988
02:25:45,280 --> 02:25:47,130
they're firing two long term

3989
02:25:47,130 --> 02:25:48,220
volunteers because they took

3990
02:25:48,220 --> 02:25:50,210
pictures or videos of the dogs

3991
02:25:50,210 --> 02:25:51,240
to help network them is

3992
02:25:51,240 --> 02:25:53,130
unacceptable. How do you fire a

3993
02:25:53,130 --> 02:25:55,800
volunteer? They're volunteering

3994
02:25:55,800 --> 02:25:56,190
their time to help dogs get

3995
02:25:56,190 --> 02:25:58,400
their forever home. The shelter

3996
02:25:58,400 --> 02:25:59,250
should be appreciative of this.

3997
02:25:59,250 --> 02:26:01,170
I've been a volunteer a dog

3998
02:26:01,170 --> 02:26:02,290
volunteer at the humane society

3999
02:26:02,290 --> 02:26:04,900
of silicon valley. They

4000
02:26:04,900 --> 02:26:05,280
encourage us to take videos and

4001
02:26:05,280 --> 02:26:07,150
pictures because it truly does

4002
02:26:07,150 --> 02:26:10,300
help the animals get a home.

4003
02:26:10,300 --> 02:26:11,260
why did yukon have to use their

4004
02:26:11,260 --> 02:26:14,120
light for being inside a dog?

4005
02:26:14,120 --> 02:26:16,130
he made one mistake and one

4006
02:26:16,130 --> 02:26:17,270
knee reaction by this

4007
02:26:17,270 --> 02:26:19,180
administration caused the dog

4008
02:26:19,180 --> 02:26:21,600
to lose their life. You have a

4009
02:26:21,600 --> 02:26:22,120
lot of money to give to this

4010
02:26:22,120 --> 02:26:24,600
shelter over and over the years

4011
02:26:24,600 --> 02:26:25,280
and nothing is changing. When

4012
02:26:25,280 --> 02:26:26,240
are you going to finally >>

4013
02:26:26,240 --> 02:26:28,280
listen that your time next

4014
02:26:28,280 --> 02:26:30,280
speaker. Amelia >> mccluskey

4015
02:26:31,230 --> 02:26:34,000
come on down. Good afternoon.

4016
02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:35,000
my name is samuel. I'm a

4017
02:26:35,000 --> 02:26:37,170
volunteer at the oasis. I've

4018
02:26:37,170 --> 02:26:39,300
been there for more than a year

4019
02:26:39,300 --> 02:26:42,600
and a half with about 700 hours

4020
02:26:42,600 --> 02:26:44,210
of dog walking and 100 hours

4021
02:26:44,210 --> 02:26:46,110
of driving dogs to be neutered

4022
02:26:46,110 --> 02:26:48,230
and spayed. I know the shuttle

4023
02:26:48,230 --> 02:26:51,600
quite well. I walk daily with

4024
02:26:51,600 --> 02:26:54,300
management. I raise issues with

4025
02:26:54,300 --> 02:26:55,240
them. They're considerate. They

4026
02:26:55,240 --> 02:26:58,140
fix it. Maybe not the same day

4027
02:26:58,140 --> 02:27:01,614
but they fix it. People had

4028
02:27:03,150 --> 02:27:06,500
signed a contract with the

4029
02:27:06,500 --> 02:27:08,800
shelter and right after they

4030
02:27:08,800 --> 02:27:09,230
signed the contract they start

4031
02:27:09,230 --> 02:27:12,140
they started breaking the rules

4032
02:27:12,140 --> 02:27:13,190
and now they find themselves

4033
02:27:13,190 --> 02:27:15,200
out and they're going to have a

4034
02:27:15,200 --> 02:27:17,402
rally. 5:00 out there talking

4035
02:27:18,210 --> 02:27:22,300
about dog on volunteers. So I'm

4036
02:27:22,300 --> 02:27:24,800
here to give a testament. The

4037
02:27:24,800 --> 02:27:25,280
shelter management does not on

4038
02:27:25,280 --> 02:27:27,260
volunteers. They walk with

4039
02:27:27,260 --> 02:27:28,290
volunteers who want to walk

4040
02:27:28,290 --> 02:27:30,150
with them. If they want to

4041
02:27:30,150 --> 02:27:32,100
demonstrate outside. They

4042
02:27:32,100 --> 02:27:35,300
should be out. Thank you. Thank

4043
02:27:35,300 --> 02:27:38,603
you. Next speaker >> I urge you

4044
02:27:43,000 --> 02:27:44,130
not >> to accept the response

4045
02:27:44,130 --> 02:27:46,000
to civil grand jury report.

4046
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:47,140
after years of advocates

4047
02:27:47,140 --> 02:27:49,290
raising concerns to audit media

4048
02:27:49,290 --> 02:27:51,230
stories and now this report, it

4049
02:27:51,230 --> 02:27:53,700
is clear that you're still not

4050
02:27:53,700 --> 02:27:54,240
listening to us and I'm sure

4051
02:27:54,240 --> 02:27:55,280
some of you're on your phone

4052
02:27:55,280 --> 02:27:57,600
right now not even listening to

4053
02:27:57,600 --> 02:27:59,800
us again. Finding five

4054
02:27:59,800 --> 02:28:00,280
identifies a trust gap between

4055
02:28:00,280 --> 02:28:02,120
the shelter and the community

4056
02:28:02,120 --> 02:28:03,230
and calls for transparency,

4057
02:28:03,230 --> 02:28:05,800
responsiveness and meaningful

4058
02:28:05,800 --> 02:28:07,240
engagement even with critics.

4059
02:28:07,240 --> 02:28:09,150
but look at recommendation for

4060
02:28:09,150 --> 02:28:11,600
the it calls for the city to

4061
02:28:11,600 --> 02:28:12,150
publicly report how many

4062
02:28:12,150 --> 02:28:14,700
animals are turned away. The

4063
02:28:14,700 --> 02:28:15,270
city claims its transparency

4064
02:28:15,270 --> 02:28:16,260
recommendations are

4065
02:28:16,260 --> 02:28:19,700
implemented. And yet says this

4066
02:28:19,700 --> 02:28:20,220
basic information won't be

4067
02:28:20,220 --> 02:28:22,220
posted until april 2020 >>

4068
02:28:22,220 --> 02:28:24,300
seven. How is that

4069
02:28:24,300 --> 02:28:26,600
transparency? The grand jury

4070
02:28:26,600 --> 02:28:27,260
also identified insufficient

4071
02:28:27,260 --> 02:28:29,170
spay neuter capacity and

4072
02:28:29,170 --> 02:28:31,100
declining rescue transfers

4073
02:28:31,100 --> 02:28:33,500
while its budget has grown to

4074
02:28:33,500 --> 02:28:35,405
17.5 million. Why are animals

4075
02:28:36,120 --> 02:28:38,800
still being set aside for spay

4076
02:28:38,800 --> 02:28:40,300
neuter? Why are there no vets

4077
02:28:40,300 --> 02:28:41,280
on the weekends? Why is medical

4078
02:28:41,280 --> 02:28:43,428
and operation >> still full?

4079
02:28:44,120 --> 02:28:48,212
the next speaker. I am a long

4080
02:28:50,800 --> 02:28:51,230
time tax volunteer. I have

4081
02:28:51,230 --> 02:28:52,250
volunteered there for five

4082
02:28:52,250 --> 02:28:54,130
years and I was one of the

4083
02:28:54,130 --> 02:28:56,500
volunteers who was terminated

4084
02:28:56,500 --> 02:28:57,210
recently. I'm here to speak

4085
02:28:57,210 --> 02:28:58,250
about finding number five the

4086
02:28:58,250 --> 02:29:00,140
civil grand jury report the

4087
02:29:00,140 --> 02:29:02,180
significant trust gap between

4088
02:29:02,180 --> 02:29:03,170
animal care services and the

4089
02:29:03,170 --> 02:29:05,500
community. I have experienced

4090
02:29:05,500 --> 02:29:06,180
that erosion of trust

4091
02:29:06,180 --> 02:29:08,700
firsthand. There is a lack

4092
02:29:08,700 --> 02:29:09,230
of collaboration, transparency

4093
02:29:09,230 --> 02:29:11,190
and accountability. Instead

4094
02:29:11,190 --> 02:29:12,250
of working with volunteers

4095
02:29:12,250 --> 02:29:13,240
toward the shared goal

4096
02:29:13,240 --> 02:29:15,150
of helping animals, the shelter

4097
02:29:15,150 --> 02:29:16,210
is increasingly creating

4098
02:29:16,210 --> 02:29:18,240
barriers. Most concerning lea

4099
02:29:18,240 --> 02:29:20,200
saying >> that saying simply

4100
02:29:20,200 --> 02:29:22,110
that an audit or grand jury

4101
02:29:22,110 --> 02:29:23,100
recommendation has been

4102
02:29:23,100 --> 02:29:25,200
implemented does not mean that

4103
02:29:25,200 --> 02:29:26,260
it's actually being followed.

4104
02:29:26,260 --> 02:29:28,210
we have seen dogs even now even

4105
02:29:28,210 --> 02:29:30,270
today being euthanized who do

4106
02:29:30,270 --> 02:29:32,260
not appear to meet the the

4107
02:29:32,260 --> 02:29:34,160
shelter's own euthanasia

4108
02:29:34,160 --> 02:29:36,400
criteria and volunteers who

4109
02:29:36,400 --> 02:29:38,200
raise these concerns are being

4110
02:29:38,200 --> 02:29:39,290
dismissed. Removing volunteers

4111
02:29:39,290 --> 02:29:41,260
will not remove the underlying

4112
02:29:41,260 --> 02:29:42,280
problems that we bring to

4113
02:29:42,280 --> 02:29:44,180
light. If the city truly wants

4114
02:29:44,180 --> 02:29:46,260
to rebuild trust as tracks need

4115
02:29:46,260 --> 02:29:48,200
to work with the volunteers not

4116
02:29:48,200 --> 02:29:50,800
around them, we need to thank

4117
02:29:50,800 --> 02:29:52,100
you that your time and genuine

4118
02:29:52,100 --> 02:29:54,100
>> collaboration. Next speaker

4119
02:29:57,700 --> 02:29:58,190
I want to know how things

4120
02:29:58,190 --> 02:30:00,210
got so far that a grand jury is

4121
02:30:00,210 --> 02:30:02,700
involved in this. I mean come

4122
02:30:02,700 --> 02:30:04,130
on people. This is governance

4123
02:30:04,130 --> 02:30:06,140
for cities. 101 if you're going

4124
02:30:06,140 --> 02:30:08,110
to take a class on it, you need

4125
02:30:08,110 --> 02:30:09,230
to be able to control the cat

4126
02:30:09,230 --> 02:30:11,500
and dog population without

4127
02:30:11,500 --> 02:30:12,230
having these kind of problems.

4128
02:30:12,230 --> 02:30:15,200
>> I mean these volunteers do

4129
02:30:15,200 --> 02:30:17,130
great work and having too >>

4130
02:30:17,130 --> 02:30:19,290
many cats outside brings down

4131
02:30:19,290 --> 02:30:21,600
the coyotes. Anyone seen a

4132
02:30:21,600 --> 02:30:22,270
coyote rogue roaming around

4133
02:30:22,270 --> 02:30:24,160
your neighborhood in the middle

4134
02:30:24,160 --> 02:30:26,500
of the suburbs? That's why >>

4135
02:30:26,500 --> 02:30:27,800
they got these feral cat

4136
02:30:27,800 --> 02:30:28,250
colonies in there. They come

4137
02:30:28,250 --> 02:30:30,500
down and they eat them sort

4138
02:30:30,500 --> 02:30:31,110
of mountain lions too. I've

4139
02:30:31,110 --> 02:30:33,110
seen them. Believe it or not,

4140
02:30:33,110 --> 02:30:35,140
not too far from where I live.

4141
02:30:35,140 --> 02:30:37,700
so the city needs to get their

4142
02:30:37,700 --> 02:30:38,180
act together, not be so

4143
02:30:38,180 --> 02:30:40,100
nonchalant and try to control

4144
02:30:40,100 --> 02:30:42,000
the cat and dog population. How

4145
02:30:42,000 --> 02:30:44,270
hard could it be? It's not. I

4146
02:30:44,270 --> 02:30:46,100
mean can you imagine this this

4147
02:30:46,100 --> 02:30:47,170
city is running this is like

4148
02:30:47,170 --> 02:30:49,300
mississippi or something. Come

4149
02:30:49,300 --> 02:30:52,100
on people. Get it straight.

4150
02:30:52,100 --> 02:30:55,100
thank you. Your next speaker.

4151
02:30:57,200 --> 02:31:00,280
>> so I have never seen any

4152
02:31:00,280 --> 02:31:03,200
city would have a county civil

4153
02:31:03,200 --> 02:31:05,230
grand jury report. Does that

4154
02:31:05,230 --> 02:31:07,900
mean that you guys were sued?

4155
02:31:07,900 --> 02:31:08,100
do you have dogs that are

4156
02:31:08,100 --> 02:31:10,240
biting people? It is scary. I

4157
02:31:10,240 --> 02:31:11,290
don't think I'm going to come

4158
02:31:11,290 --> 02:31:13,700
and help you guys next time

4159
02:31:13,700 --> 02:31:15,600
even if you guys invite me.

4160
02:31:15,600 --> 02:31:17,800
fellow americans, you guys

4161
02:31:17,800 --> 02:31:20,000
really need to maybe ask your

4162
02:31:20,000 --> 02:31:22,500
city government to stop

4163
02:31:22,500 --> 02:31:24,240
squandering your tax dollars as

4164
02:31:24,240 --> 02:31:27,140
loans to help builders and help

4165
02:31:27,140 --> 02:31:28,160
wealthy real >> estate

4166
02:31:28,160 --> 02:31:31,900
developers. And why is our our

4167
02:31:31,900 --> 02:31:34,200
entire state and especially a

4168
02:31:34,200 --> 02:31:36,500
rich city that is so close to

4169
02:31:36,500 --> 02:31:37,220
silicon valley run on

4170
02:31:37,220 --> 02:31:40,220
volunteers? Only one only one

4171
02:31:41,000 --> 02:31:43,700
answer. You must be communists.

4172
02:31:43,700 --> 02:31:44,800
that's what communist

4173
02:31:44,800 --> 02:31:47,000
government do. You guys >> take

4174
02:31:47,000 --> 02:31:48,250
property you guys take away

4175
02:31:48,250 --> 02:31:50,280
from people and enrich your own

4176
02:31:50,280 --> 02:31:52,270
pockets. And that's why real

4177
02:31:52,270 --> 02:31:55,180
estate sharks has a taste

4178
02:31:55,180 --> 02:31:57,800
because those communist

4179
02:31:57,800 --> 02:31:59,100
government that are corrupt

4180
02:31:59,100 --> 02:32:00,270
they buy cash. Thank you. Next

4181
02:32:00,270 --> 02:32:02,427
speaker. >> yeah, after this

4182
02:32:05,210 --> 02:32:06,230
speaker I'll go to rebecca

4183
02:32:06,230 --> 02:32:10,223
online. Hello. I'm a san jose

4184
02:32:11,500 --> 02:32:14,500
native from district three. I

4185
02:32:14,500 --> 02:32:14,270
would like to thank the

4186
02:32:14,270 --> 02:32:16,250
volunteers and staff whose work

4187
02:32:16,250 --> 02:32:18,210
I imagine can be gratifying,

4188
02:32:18,210 --> 02:32:20,140
heartbreaking and sadly never

4189
02:32:20,140 --> 02:32:22,900
ending. I'm concerned about

4190
02:32:22,900 --> 02:32:23,250
recent news news reports

4191
02:32:23,250 --> 02:32:25,300
regarding the firing of long

4192
02:32:25,300 --> 02:32:26,230
term volunteers for violating

4193
02:32:26,230 --> 02:32:28,500
the questionable rule against

4194
02:32:28,500 --> 02:32:30,120
photography. There is no hipa

4195
02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:32,180
in animal care. As a citizen

4196
02:32:32,180 --> 02:32:34,500
this arbitrary rule makes it

4197
02:32:34,500 --> 02:32:35,180
seem that whoever's in charge

4198
02:32:35,180 --> 02:32:37,900
has something to hide. Our

4199
02:32:37,900 --> 02:32:39,200
animals and volunteers deserve

4200
02:32:39,200 --> 02:32:41,200
better. I ask that the council

4201
02:32:41,200 --> 02:32:42,120
direct that this rule be

4202
02:32:42,120 --> 02:32:44,600
rescinded. Please bring back

4203
02:32:44,600 --> 02:32:46,000
these dedicated volunteers.

4204
02:32:46,000 --> 02:32:49,000
thank you. Thank you, rebecca

4205
02:32:49,000 --> 02:32:52,000
followed by the man rebecca

4206
02:32:59,230 --> 02:33:01,170
davis matthews. All right.

4207
02:33:01,170 --> 02:33:02,180
sorry. We need to start by

4208
02:33:02,180 --> 02:33:03,160
going with sustainable

4209
02:33:03,160 --> 02:33:05,300
shelters. I'm part of a larger

4210
02:33:05,300 --> 02:33:06,100
group of advocates who have

4211
02:33:06,100 --> 02:33:07,100
been coming to these meetings

4212
02:33:07,100 --> 02:33:08,200
for almost four years and

4213
02:33:08,200 --> 02:33:09,280
repeated pleas for change have

4214
02:33:09,280 --> 02:33:11,200
fallen on deaf ears. When it

4215
02:33:11,200 --> 02:33:12,270
comes down to it, trust and

4216
02:33:12,270 --> 02:33:14,200
complacency are figured in the

4217
02:33:14,200 --> 02:33:16,110
grand jury report. Shelter

4218
02:33:16,110 --> 02:33:17,170
management needs to take a hard

4219
02:33:17,170 --> 02:33:18,210
look at rebuilding trust with

4220
02:33:18,210 --> 02:33:20,700
the community. Take a look

4221
02:33:20,700 --> 02:33:21,120
at any found animal related

4222
02:33:21,120 --> 02:33:22,210
posts on social media and you

4223
02:33:22,210 --> 02:33:23,270
will see comments from members

4224
02:33:23,270 --> 02:33:24,260
of the public stating that

4225
02:33:24,260 --> 02:33:26,200
animals should not be taken to

4226
02:33:26,200 --> 02:33:27,280
the shelter because of the many

4227
02:33:27,280 --> 02:33:29,180
adopted cruel dogs silently

4228
02:33:29,180 --> 02:33:31,110
euthanized or put on a final

4229
02:33:31,110 --> 02:33:32,140
because of the many cats

4230
02:33:32,140 --> 02:33:33,250
euthanized behind the scenes or

4231
02:33:33,250 --> 02:33:35,600
listed as final for treatable

4232
02:33:35,600 --> 02:33:37,300
conditions like ringworm.

4233
02:33:37,300 --> 02:33:38,180
complacency current shelter

4234
02:33:38,180 --> 02:33:40,300
management is complacent and

4235
02:33:40,300 --> 02:33:41,170
disbelief that changes have

4236
02:33:41,170 --> 02:33:43,120
been made. There are still many

4237
02:33:43,120 --> 02:33:44,290
gaps in services most notably

4238
02:33:44,290 --> 02:33:46,100
the public spay neuter program

4239
02:33:46,100 --> 02:33:48,300
which currently has 1 to 2 days

4240
02:33:48,300 --> 02:33:49,110
of tnr per week when it should

4241
02:33:49,110 --> 02:33:51,190
be 4 to 5 days of both tnr and

4242
02:33:51,190 --> 02:33:54,120
services for own pets in house.

4243
02:33:54,120 --> 02:33:55,290
with the continued explosion

4244
02:33:55,290 --> 02:33:56,270
of puppies and kittens in our

4245
02:33:56,270 --> 02:33:58,220
area, the time is now to return

4246
02:33:58,220 --> 02:34:00,140
the shelter to its former role

4247
02:34:00,140 --> 02:34:03,140
in supplying a robust >> demand

4248
02:34:04,300 --> 02:34:07,300
followed by brian mann. If

4249
02:34:14,800 --> 02:34:15,180
you're on the phone it star six

4250
02:34:15,180 --> 02:34:17,418
to unmute >> someone. Good

4251
02:34:20,100 --> 02:34:21,100
afternoon. My name is mike

4252
02:34:21,100 --> 02:34:23,000
wagner. I have a fascinating

4253
02:34:23,000 --> 02:34:24,190
observation to share with all

4254
02:34:24,190 --> 02:34:26,000
of you. Over the past four

4255
02:34:26,000 --> 02:34:27,900
years we've had the management

4256
02:34:27,900 --> 02:34:29,500
audit that largely went ignored

4257
02:34:29,500 --> 02:34:31,140
back in 2022 as well as a

4258
02:34:31,140 --> 02:34:33,220
scathing 133 page city audit by

4259
02:34:33,220 --> 02:34:35,240
joe rice and his team. A da's

4260
02:34:35,240 --> 02:34:37,200
office criminal investigation

4261
02:34:37,200 --> 02:34:39,170
in 2024 led by investigate

4262
02:34:39,170 --> 02:34:41,110
owner chrissy durant and now a

4263
02:34:41,110 --> 02:34:42,290
civil grand jury investigation

4264
02:34:42,290 --> 02:34:45,190
in 25 and 26. The city has also

4265
02:34:45,190 --> 02:34:47,000
been sued in santa clara

4266
02:34:47,000 --> 02:34:48,280
superior court in 2026 by an

4267
02:34:48,280 --> 02:34:50,120
animal welfare advocate and a

4268
02:34:50,120 --> 02:34:51,290
former partner of the shelter.

4269
02:34:51,290 --> 02:34:54,200
give it all this. It's shocking

4270
02:34:54,200 --> 02:34:55,300
that the city has not

4271
02:34:55,300 --> 02:34:56,250
terminated a single director

4272
02:34:56,250 --> 02:34:58,190
nor has any director received

4273
02:34:58,190 --> 02:35:00,110
any disciplinary action even

4274
02:35:00,110 --> 02:35:01,170
though over a dozen ethics

4275
02:35:01,170 --> 02:35:03,100
violations complaints have been

4276
02:35:03,100 --> 02:35:04,800
filed with the city manager's

4277
02:35:04,800 --> 02:35:06,130
office. When are people going

4278
02:35:06,130 --> 02:35:08,190
to be held accountable? When

4279
02:35:08,190 --> 02:35:11,000
are people going to be handled,

4280
02:35:11,000 --> 02:35:12,250
held accountable for all

4281
02:35:12,250 --> 02:35:14,800
of these animals suffering and

4282
02:35:14,800 --> 02:35:15,290
dying over the last four years

4283
02:35:15,290 --> 02:35:18,290
>> by brian followed by tina.

4284
02:35:24,240 --> 02:35:28,224
>> I would bring up one thing I

4285
02:35:29,150 --> 02:35:31,200
read through and sent an email

4286
02:35:31,200 --> 02:35:33,500
about it. I've heard the word a

4287
02:35:33,500 --> 02:35:34,130
few times and I've heard it in

4288
02:35:34,130 --> 02:35:36,300
other situations too is

4289
02:35:36,300 --> 02:35:39,300
retaliation that's illegal to

4290
02:35:39,200 --> 02:35:40,220
retaliate against the

4291
02:35:40,220 --> 02:35:42,140
volunteer, to retaliate against

4292
02:35:42,140 --> 02:35:44,600
the citizens to retaliate

4293
02:35:44,600 --> 02:35:46,200
against an employee. Those are

4294
02:35:46,200 --> 02:35:47,110
actionable. The city has not

4295
02:35:47,110 --> 02:35:48,230
done well in lawsuits that have

4296
02:35:48,230 --> 02:35:50,150
done that have been similar to

4297
02:35:50,150 --> 02:35:53,220
that and it that should be a

4298
02:35:53,220 --> 02:35:55,422
critical issue. Firing for

4299
02:35:56,700 --> 02:35:58,100
cause having been a volunteer

4300
02:35:58,100 --> 02:35:59,150
not for the shelter but for

4301
02:35:59,150 --> 02:36:01,210
another organization for making

4302
02:36:01,210 --> 02:36:03,300
bringing up concerns

4303
02:36:03,300 --> 02:36:05,800
retaliation hurts people. You

4304
02:36:05,800 --> 02:36:06,300
know you put your heart and

4305
02:36:06,300 --> 02:36:07,200
soul into something and then it

4306
02:36:07,200 --> 02:36:09,170
just and then you're no longer

4307
02:36:09,170 --> 02:36:11,240
part of anything and it it

4308
02:36:11,240 --> 02:36:14,800
should be dealt with seriously

4309
02:36:14,800 --> 02:36:16,200
and it doesn't seem like it is.

4310
02:36:16,200 --> 02:36:19,200
thank you tina online followed

4311
02:36:19,150 --> 02:36:22,615
by kim in person. Hi, good

4312
02:36:24,150 --> 02:36:25,200
afternoon. This is tina

4313
02:36:25,200 --> 02:36:27,230
murrell. I live in district

4314
02:36:27,230 --> 02:36:30,110
three. I want to say thank you

4315
02:36:30,110 --> 02:36:32,180
guys for your time. I sent you

4316
02:36:32,180 --> 02:36:34,600
some thoughts yesterday via

4317
02:36:34,600 --> 02:36:36,170
email but I wanted to focus on

4318
02:36:36,170 --> 02:36:39,300
one thing in particular which

4319
02:36:39,300 --> 02:36:41,220
is outside of the scope of my

4320
02:36:41,220 --> 02:36:43,250
letter to you. I'd like to urge

4321
02:36:43,250 --> 02:36:44,260
you to please use your

4322
02:36:44,260 --> 02:36:47,240
influence >> as a mayor and

4323
02:36:47,240 --> 02:36:49,220
city council at a higher level

4324
02:36:49,220 --> 02:36:50,230
to help put through some

4325
02:36:50,230 --> 02:36:52,210
policies that will reduce the

4326
02:36:52,210 --> 02:36:54,900
cat population or

4327
02:36:54,900 --> 02:36:56,900
overpopulation. Assembly member

4328
02:36:56,240 --> 02:36:59,150
ash kalra is actively working

4329
02:36:59,150 --> 02:37:01,110
on some bills. He had a great

4330
02:37:01,110 --> 02:37:04,190
bill. It was to allow vet techs

4331
02:37:04,190 --> 02:37:08,219
to be able to spay cats and

4332
02:37:10,180 --> 02:37:11,260
unfortunately it didn't pass

4333
02:37:11,260 --> 02:37:12,230
but he's putting through some

4334
02:37:12,230 --> 02:37:14,200
other ones. Maybe that's a good

4335
02:37:14,200 --> 02:37:16,150
place to start. The other thing

4336
02:37:16,150 --> 02:37:18,110
that I'd like to invite you to

4337
02:37:18,110 --> 02:37:20,180
do is please check out these

4338
02:37:20,180 --> 02:37:22,260
places where you have your

4339
02:37:22,260 --> 02:37:26,826
voting on go and I. Kim was it

4340
02:37:29,000 --> 02:37:33,800
kim yeah. Hi, I'm kim. I just

4341
02:37:35,220 --> 02:37:37,500
got here so didn't get to hear

4342
02:37:37,500 --> 02:37:39,220
everything. I came here because

4343
02:37:39,220 --> 02:37:41,230
I've been watching online all

4344
02:37:41,230 --> 02:37:43,170
about the shelter. I have

4345
02:37:43,170 --> 02:37:46,400
rescued over 100 dogs so I know

4346
02:37:46,400 --> 02:37:47,800
how hard it is to be a

4347
02:37:47,800 --> 02:37:48,290
volunteer. It's so hard. I

4348
02:37:48,290 --> 02:37:50,800
can't imagine these volunteers

4349
02:37:50,800 --> 02:37:51,140
in the shelter watching dogs

4350
02:37:51,140 --> 02:37:54,600
get put down. I really >>

4351
02:37:54,600 --> 02:37:56,300
believe that the volunteers

4352
02:37:56,300 --> 02:37:57,190
need to be looked at. They have

4353
02:37:57,190 --> 02:37:58,200
some great, great >>

4354
02:37:58,200 --> 02:38:00,290
suggestions. I have tried to

4355
02:38:00,290 --> 02:38:03,180
contact you, mayor. I would

4356
02:38:03,180 --> 02:38:05,800
suggest some air to answer your

4357
02:38:05,800 --> 02:38:06,900
phone because you can't get

4358
02:38:06,900 --> 02:38:08,160
through to you. There's less

4359
02:38:08,160 --> 02:38:09,700
air. You want to talk to

4360
02:38:09,700 --> 02:38:11,700
me later? My company does that

4361
02:38:11,700 --> 02:38:12,180
and some of the council people

4362
02:38:12,180 --> 02:38:14,220
too. I've tried to like the

4363
02:38:14,220 --> 02:38:17,200
phone just rings and if we can

4364
02:38:17,200 --> 02:38:19,110
get a consensus of what the

4365
02:38:19,110 --> 02:38:21,190
population is looking at I was

4366
02:38:21,190 --> 02:38:24,150
shocked >> at how much verbiage

4367
02:38:24,150 --> 02:38:25,220
is being talked about council

4368
02:38:25,220 --> 02:38:28,110
people, mayors. I can't imagine

4369
02:38:28,110 --> 02:38:29,700
how hard it is in this

4370
02:38:29,700 --> 02:38:31,150
community with this shelter

4371
02:38:31,150 --> 02:38:33,200
with covid and all the dog

4372
02:38:33,200 --> 02:38:34,160
population. What you're dealing

4373
02:38:34,160 --> 02:38:35,290
with. Thank >> you. That's your

4374
02:38:35,290 --> 02:38:38,629
time. I have sue online here.

4375
02:38:44,000 --> 02:38:44,240
if you leave it you can leave

4376
02:38:44,240 --> 02:38:48,110
it with the clerk. Hi. I just

4377
02:38:48,110 --> 02:38:50,800
wanted to say that one of the

4378
02:38:50,800 --> 02:38:52,100
things I don't understand and

4379
02:38:52,100 --> 02:38:53,140
which I think reflects on

4380
02:38:53,140 --> 02:38:55,260
management somehow and this

4381
02:38:55,260 --> 02:38:57,110
issue of trust I keep hearing

4382
02:38:57,110 --> 02:38:59,190
about is this new volunteer

4383
02:38:59,190 --> 02:39:00,250
agreement that restricts

4384
02:39:00,250 --> 02:39:02,140
volunteers from taking photos

4385
02:39:02,140 --> 02:39:05,300
and videos of animals because

4386
02:39:05,300 --> 02:39:06,220
it really does help the animals

4387
02:39:06,220 --> 02:39:08,300
get adopted which is the whole

4388
02:39:08,300 --> 02:39:11,220
point of the shelter. So I

4389
02:39:11,220 --> 02:39:13,100
don't understand why they won't

4390
02:39:13,100 --> 02:39:15,160
give them permission to do that

4391
02:39:15,160 --> 02:39:16,280
and also the fact that

4392
02:39:16,280 --> 02:39:18,210
volunteers have been retaliated

4393
02:39:18,210 --> 02:39:21,300
against some of them who have

4394
02:39:21,300 --> 02:39:22,160
volunteered at the shelter for

4395
02:39:22,160 --> 02:39:24,140
a long time. They're doing this

4396
02:39:24,140 --> 02:39:27,180
for free for no money and hey,

4397
02:39:27,180 --> 02:39:28,210
you know, it's illegal in the

4398
02:39:28,210 --> 02:39:30,190
workplace. Maybe not for

4399
02:39:30,190 --> 02:39:32,419
volunteers but that just

4400
02:39:33,100 --> 02:39:35,260
doesn't seem right. Thank you.

4401
02:39:35,260 --> 02:39:38,260
>> back to council. Okay. Thank

4402
02:39:40,130 --> 02:39:41,900
you, toni. Thank you to all

4403
02:39:41,900 --> 02:39:42,230
of our public speakers. Before

4404
02:39:42,230 --> 02:39:44,800
I turn to colleagues, I'll just

4405
02:39:44,800 --> 02:39:45,210
say a couple of quick things.

4406
02:39:45,210 --> 02:39:47,700
one, I want to start by really

4407
02:39:47,700 --> 02:39:49,407
thanking the volunteers and

4408
02:39:50,400 --> 02:39:52,130
animal advocates, not just

4409
02:39:52,130 --> 02:39:53,290
those who spoke today but I

4410
02:39:53,290 --> 02:39:55,240
know we are very lucky in

4411
02:39:55,240 --> 02:39:57,100
san jose to have hundreds

4412
02:39:57,100 --> 02:39:59,180
of people who care a lot about

4413
02:39:59,180 --> 02:40:00,210
the care of animals in our

4414
02:40:00,210 --> 02:40:02,200
community and help in a variety

4415
02:40:02,200 --> 02:40:04,190
of ways from walking dogs to

4416
02:40:04,190 --> 02:40:06,120
trapping stray cats and getting

4417
02:40:06,120 --> 02:40:08,000
them spayed or neutered to a

4418
02:40:08,000 --> 02:40:10,120
whole variety of capacity that

4419
02:40:10,120 --> 02:40:12,500
they add just for a little bit

4420
02:40:12,500 --> 02:40:13,230
of context for those following

4421
02:40:13,230 --> 02:40:16,300
along. You go back a few years

4422
02:40:16,300 --> 02:40:18,220
ago coming out of the pandemic

4423
02:40:18,220 --> 02:40:21,622
we were hit with this wave

4424
02:40:22,220 --> 02:40:24,700
of animal releases into the

4425
02:40:24,700 --> 02:40:25,210
community during the pandemic.

4426
02:40:25,210 --> 02:40:28,300
sadly many people rushed out to

4427
02:40:28,300 --> 02:40:30,130
get a pet as they were at home

4428
02:40:30,130 --> 02:40:31,220
and then when they returned to

4429
02:40:31,220 --> 02:40:33,000
work decided it was too much

4430
02:40:33,000 --> 02:40:34,150
trouble and we had a huge

4431
02:40:34,150 --> 02:40:38,190
influx of pets. It also was the

4432
02:40:38,190 --> 02:40:40,300
case at least in my opinion

4433
02:40:40,300 --> 02:40:41,400
that we had been

4434
02:40:41,400 --> 02:40:42,240
under-investing in the shelter

4435
02:40:42,240 --> 02:40:45,100
and staffing and facilities and

4436
02:40:45,100 --> 02:40:47,240
really needed to invest to

4437
02:40:47,240 --> 02:40:49,900
modernize and I'm proud of this

4438
02:40:49,900 --> 02:40:50,900
council over the last three

4439
02:40:50,900 --> 02:40:51,220
years has significantly

4440
02:40:51,220 --> 02:40:53,180
increased the investment nearly

4441
02:40:53,180 --> 02:40:55,220
doubling investment in the

4442
02:40:55,220 --> 02:40:56,270
animal care center just over

4443
02:40:56,270 --> 02:40:58,140
the last three years and adding

4444
02:40:58,140 --> 02:41:00,000
to staffing. It's also worth

4445
02:41:00,000 --> 02:41:02,000
noting we have a new director

4446
02:41:02,000 --> 02:41:03,100
so there's been a leadership

4447
02:41:03,100 --> 02:41:05,210
change and we are in the

4448
02:41:05,210 --> 02:41:07,800
process. We've just moved it

4449
02:41:07,800 --> 02:41:10,100
from within public works to

4450
02:41:10,100 --> 02:41:11,220
under parks recreation and

4451
02:41:11,220 --> 02:41:13,220
neighborhood services. >> a

4452
02:41:14,200 --> 02:41:17,210
couple of years ago I and some

4453
02:41:17,210 --> 02:41:18,190
colleagues and I put forward a

4454
02:41:18,190 --> 02:41:20,160
memo calling for an audit. We

4455
02:41:20,160 --> 02:41:22,300
have a very extensive audit

4456
02:41:22,300 --> 02:41:24,300
with over 30 recommendations

4457
02:41:24,600 --> 02:41:25,110
most of which have been

4458
02:41:25,110 --> 02:41:27,290
implemented. So there is a lot

4459
02:41:27,290 --> 02:41:29,800
of work to do and to the point

4460
02:41:29,800 --> 02:41:30,280
I think you may love trust to

4461
02:41:30,280 --> 02:41:32,800
rebuild that isn't it's going

4462
02:41:32,800 --> 02:41:33,190
to have to be hard earned. It's

4463
02:41:33,190 --> 02:41:35,100
not going to come overnight or

4464
02:41:35,100 --> 02:41:37,300
just be because we say we've

4465
02:41:37,300 --> 02:41:38,230
implemented policies people are

4466
02:41:38,230 --> 02:41:40,200
going to see it and experience

4467
02:41:40,200 --> 02:41:41,100
it for themselves and make

4468
02:41:41,100 --> 02:41:44,100
their own determination. I do.

4469
02:41:44,180 --> 02:41:46,300
I do want to point on what I do

4470
02:41:46,300 --> 02:41:47,800
want to push on one item if we

4471
02:41:47,800 --> 02:41:48,280
could put the slides back up

4472
02:41:48,280 --> 02:41:51,180
and specifically go to finding

4473
02:41:51,180 --> 02:41:53,418
three and recommendation three

4474
02:41:55,900 --> 02:41:56,260
and I forget the slide number

4475
02:41:56,260 --> 02:42:00,500
now but it had to do with our

4476
02:42:00,500 --> 02:42:02,260
spay and neuter capacity. This

4477
02:42:02,260 --> 02:42:05,400
is something I've been very

4478
02:42:05,400 --> 02:42:07,240
focused on in recent years and

4479
02:42:07,240 --> 02:42:10,120
in the in my march budget

4480
02:42:10,120 --> 02:42:12,412
message which council adopted

4481
02:42:13,000 --> 02:42:15,150
we've directed the

4482
02:42:15,150 --> 02:42:18,600
administration to go to five

4483
02:42:18,600 --> 02:42:19,280
days a week and just again I

4484
02:42:19,280 --> 02:42:21,600
think it was said by some folks

4485
02:42:21,600 --> 02:42:23,800
during public comment but this

4486
02:42:23,800 --> 02:42:24,210
is our best opportunity to get

4487
02:42:24,210 --> 02:42:27,210
upstream. I was just actually

4488
02:42:27,270 --> 02:42:29,427
with councilmember cohen up

4489
02:42:30,120 --> 02:42:32,280
at west winds mobile home park

4490
02:42:32,280 --> 02:42:34,170
and happened >> to meet a group

4491
02:42:34,170 --> 02:42:36,400
who again voluntarily are

4492
02:42:36,400 --> 02:42:38,500
trapping stray cats and getting

4493
02:42:38,500 --> 02:42:39,270
them treated and then

4494
02:42:39,270 --> 02:42:42,500
rereleasing them and trying to

4495
02:42:42,500 --> 02:42:43,220
get upstream of this

4496
02:42:43,220 --> 02:42:45,422
proliferation of stray >> cats

4497
02:42:46,300 --> 02:42:48,100
and just in that one colony up

4498
02:42:48,100 --> 02:42:50,280
there, 250 or more cats and

4499
02:42:50,280 --> 02:42:52,210
some folks are lining up

4500
02:42:52,210 --> 02:42:53,260
at five in the morning hoping

4501
02:42:53,260 --> 02:42:55,260
to get a slot. So the thing

4502
02:42:55,260 --> 02:42:56,280
that concerns me and I just I

4503
02:42:56,280 --> 02:42:57,190
want to get a little more

4504
02:42:57,190 --> 02:42:58,210
detail and push on this a

4505
02:42:58,210 --> 02:43:01,621
little bit is >> we put here

4506
02:43:02,280 --> 02:43:04,500
recommendation three that the

4507
02:43:04,500 --> 02:43:05,270
status is implemented which has

4508
02:43:05,270 --> 02:43:08,500
a an air of finality about it

4509
02:43:08,500 --> 02:43:10,300
makes it sound like we're done.

4510
02:43:10,300 --> 02:43:11,900
then I think you said we're not

4511
02:43:11,900 --> 02:43:12,250
>> done or what are our options

4512
02:43:12,250 --> 02:43:15,600
in terms of the responses we

4513
02:43:15,600 --> 02:43:17,110
can give on status because I

4514
02:43:17,110 --> 02:43:18,230
think I think >> we probably

4515
02:43:18,230 --> 02:43:19,260
agree but I just want to get on

4516
02:43:19,260 --> 02:43:20,240
the record here that we have a

4517
02:43:20,240 --> 02:43:22,500
lot of work to do to expand

4518
02:43:22,500 --> 02:43:24,900
that capacity as one of our

4519
02:43:24,900 --> 02:43:26,900
primary prevention strategies

4520
02:43:26,170 --> 02:43:28,700
to relieve all that downstream

4521
02:43:28,700 --> 02:43:29,130
pressure that the staff and

4522
02:43:29,130 --> 02:43:31,120
volunteers are under. So matt

4523
02:43:31,120 --> 02:43:32,100
or monica can you share a

4524
02:43:32,100 --> 02:43:34,130
little more about where we are

4525
02:43:34,130 --> 02:43:36,160
with this? What's next and is

4526
02:43:36,160 --> 02:43:37,230
there any other word we could

4527
02:43:37,230 --> 02:43:39,100
use beyond just implemented

4528
02:43:39,100 --> 02:43:41,280
which makes it sound done >>

4529
02:43:41,280 --> 02:43:43,800
certainly and I did provide it

4530
02:43:43,800 --> 02:43:44,240
in the memo and that's. So this

4531
02:43:44,240 --> 02:43:46,600
was for the slide purposes that

4532
02:43:46,600 --> 02:43:47,230
is just listed as implemented

4533
02:43:47,230 --> 02:43:49,700
and there are contacts provided

4534
02:43:49,700 --> 02:43:50,130
in the notes in the memo and

4535
02:43:50,130 --> 02:43:51,170
which will go back to the civil

4536
02:43:51,170 --> 02:43:53,160
grand jury and monica and clean

4537
02:43:53,160 --> 02:43:54,210
up any additional things that I

4538
02:43:54,210 --> 02:43:57,180
miss. So by implemented it says

4539
02:43:57,180 --> 02:43:59,170
in so the recommendation is to

4540
02:43:59,170 --> 02:44:01,400
increase and expand spay neuter

4541
02:44:01,400 --> 02:44:04,210
surgeries if that's if that's

4542
02:44:04,210 --> 02:44:06,900
the marker then it is implement

4543
02:44:06,900 --> 02:44:08,200
we did increase and expand it

4544
02:44:08,200 --> 02:44:10,100
needs to increase and expand

4545
02:44:10,100 --> 02:44:11,290
more. You provided us new

4546
02:44:11,290 --> 02:44:14,900
resources in july that could

4547
02:44:14,900 --> 02:44:15,170
that will be used to expand

4548
02:44:15,170 --> 02:44:17,170
resources this fiscal year and

4549
02:44:17,170 --> 02:44:19,170
so and we've increased each

4550
02:44:19,170 --> 02:44:20,250
of the last three years double

4551
02:44:20,250 --> 02:44:22,190
digits the prior two years and

4552
02:44:22,190 --> 02:44:25,600
high single digits last year it

4553
02:44:25,600 --> 02:44:26,200
will be reported at the annual

4554
02:44:26,200 --> 02:44:28,700
report what the actual numbers

4555
02:44:28,700 --> 02:44:29,250
are in october so in just a

4556
02:44:29,250 --> 02:44:30,260
couple of months time like six

4557
02:44:30,260 --> 02:44:33,500
weeks time, monica will be

4558
02:44:33,500 --> 02:44:34,180
presenting the annual report

4559
02:44:34,180 --> 02:44:36,000
for the actual figures from

4560
02:44:36,000 --> 02:44:38,800
last year. It was just shy

4561
02:44:38,800 --> 02:44:39,110
of the target that I had sent

4562
02:44:39,110 --> 02:44:41,100
them but they also had a staff

4563
02:44:41,100 --> 02:44:42,260
member was gone for about five

4564
02:44:42,260 --> 02:44:44,250
months of the year due to be on

4565
02:44:44,250 --> 02:44:47,240
leave and there's so we have

4566
02:44:47,240 --> 02:44:50,200
increased even at a decreased

4567
02:44:50,200 --> 02:44:52,800
staff capacity and for the

4568
02:44:52,800 --> 02:44:54,130
first 6 or 7 months of this

4569
02:44:54,130 --> 02:44:56,120
year that last fiscal year

4570
02:44:56,120 --> 02:44:57,250
staff was spending a tremendous

4571
02:44:57,250 --> 02:44:59,500
amount of time implementing the

4572
02:44:59,500 --> 02:45:01,405
39 automated audit items. They

4573
02:45:02,100 --> 02:45:03,600
were spending a lot of time to

4574
02:45:03,600 --> 02:45:04,140
build both the policies and

4575
02:45:04,140 --> 02:45:05,260
procedures and training and all

4576
02:45:05,260 --> 02:45:06,180
of the things that are part

4577
02:45:06,180 --> 02:45:09,000
of that. Again you see

4578
02:45:09,000 --> 02:45:10,700
detracting a little bit from

4579
02:45:10,700 --> 02:45:11,190
our capacity to perform but it

4580
02:45:11,190 --> 02:45:12,290
was we weren't able to provide

4581
02:45:12,290 --> 02:45:14,900
necessarily as many surgeries

4582
02:45:14,900 --> 02:45:15,800
as we had hoped for because we

4583
02:45:15,800 --> 02:45:16,110
were building all those things

4584
02:45:16,110 --> 02:45:17,220
so that we can have a place to

4585
02:45:17,220 --> 02:45:19,220
grow from and so there is an

4586
02:45:19,220 --> 02:45:21,200
increase but it is not the

4587
02:45:21,200 --> 02:45:21,290
target that we're setting. It

4588
02:45:21,290 --> 02:45:23,700
will be increased higher this

4589
02:45:23,700 --> 02:45:24,150
year and the goal is to get to

4590
02:45:24,150 --> 02:45:25,240
a certain amount and I'll let

4591
02:45:25,240 --> 02:45:27,110
the team in october set what

4592
02:45:27,110 --> 02:45:29,260
their stuff is for this year.

4593
02:45:29,260 --> 02:45:32,260
okay. And when we come back and

4594
02:45:32,260 --> 02:45:34,500
continue with this discussion

4595
02:45:34,500 --> 02:45:35,260
in october, would that be the

4596
02:45:35,260 --> 02:45:38,230
best time for us to understand

4597
02:45:38,230 --> 02:45:40,240
for you to be able to quantify

4598
02:45:40,240 --> 02:45:43,100
how much that increase in the

4599
02:45:43,100 --> 02:45:45,200
spay and neuter >> services

4600
02:45:45,200 --> 02:45:46,210
will be this fiscal year? I

4601
02:45:46,210 --> 02:45:47,180
think I will be interested to

4602
02:45:47,180 --> 02:45:48,170
know from the beginning of the

4603
02:45:48,170 --> 02:45:50,200
fiscal year to the end how much

4604
02:45:50,200 --> 02:45:52,230
increased capacity we will get.

4605
02:45:52,230 --> 02:45:53,250
yes. So I think that's what

4606
02:45:53,250 --> 02:45:54,230
we're hoping is that they'll be

4607
02:45:54,230 --> 02:45:56,100
able to produce. So this will

4608
02:45:56,100 --> 02:45:57,250
be monica's first full fiscal

4609
02:45:57,250 --> 02:45:59,000
year with us as well. She had

4610
02:45:59,000 --> 02:46:00,200
gotten in the audit and get

4611
02:46:00,200 --> 02:46:01,230
everything staff oriented and

4612
02:46:01,230 --> 02:46:04,170
then oriented back to with here

4613
02:46:04,170 --> 02:46:06,110
on us and so they have a vision

4614
02:46:06,110 --> 02:46:07,100
of what they want to be working

4615
02:46:07,100 --> 02:46:08,140
on. They'll be presenting that

4616
02:46:08,140 --> 02:46:10,130
to the committee in october and

4617
02:46:10,130 --> 02:46:11,150
that this is what we achieved

4618
02:46:11,150 --> 02:46:12,240
and this is their vision for

4619
02:46:12,240 --> 02:46:14,290
the fiscal year. >> yeah okay.

4620
02:46:14,290 --> 02:46:16,500
and I focus on that one again

4621
02:46:16,500 --> 02:46:17,110
not because it's the only thing

4622
02:46:17,110 --> 02:46:18,120
we need to do. We know there's

4623
02:46:18,120 --> 02:46:19,240
from the audit many different

4624
02:46:19,240 --> 02:46:20,270
areas we're trying to improve

4625
02:46:20,270 --> 02:46:22,600
but it does feel like one

4626
02:46:22,600 --> 02:46:24,000
of the most strategic ways for

4627
02:46:24,000 --> 02:46:25,300
us to get upstream of the

4628
02:46:25,300 --> 02:46:26,130
challenge create some breathing

4629
02:46:26,130 --> 02:46:27,290
room for staff and be able to

4630
02:46:27,290 --> 02:46:29,400
implement all these other audit

4631
02:46:29,400 --> 02:46:30,140
recommendations and kind

4632
02:46:30,140 --> 02:46:32,180
of improve overall operations.

4633
02:46:32,180 --> 02:46:33,270
I see colleagues want to chime

4634
02:46:33,270 --> 02:46:35,120
in. I'm going to turn to them

4635
02:46:35,120 --> 02:46:37,100
now and I'll start with

4636
02:46:37,100 --> 02:46:39,410
councilmember ortiz. Thank you

4637
02:46:41,600 --> 02:46:42,260
mayor. I just want to start out

4638
02:46:42,260 --> 02:46:45,500
by thanking our animal care and

4639
02:46:45,500 --> 02:46:46,220
services staff. This is

4640
02:46:46,220 --> 02:46:48,500
incredibly difficult work and I

4641
02:46:48,500 --> 02:46:49,800
recognize that many of the

4642
02:46:49,800 --> 02:46:50,190
challenges that we are

4643
02:46:50,190 --> 02:46:52,800
discussing today didn't develop

4644
02:46:52,800 --> 02:46:53,260
overnight staff have been

4645
02:46:53,260 --> 02:46:55,800
working through capacity

4646
02:46:55,800 --> 02:46:57,800
pressures, staffing challenges,

4647
02:46:57,180 --> 02:46:59,000
veterinary shortages and

4648
02:46:59,000 --> 02:47:01,700
increasing demand for services

4649
02:47:01,700 --> 02:47:02,170
whilst still caring for

4650
02:47:02,170 --> 02:47:04,200
thousands of animals every

4651
02:47:04,200 --> 02:47:06,190
year. At the same time I want

4652
02:47:06,190 --> 02:47:08,300
to acknowledge our many animal

4653
02:47:08,300 --> 02:47:10,200
advocates rescue partners,

4654
02:47:10,200 --> 02:47:12,100
volunteers >> and residents who

4655
02:47:12,100 --> 02:47:13,170
have continued to >> push this

4656
02:47:13,170 --> 02:47:15,200
city to >> do better something

4657
02:47:15,200 --> 02:47:17,220
I believe we can do >> the

4658
02:47:17,220 --> 02:47:19,120
grand jury makes it clear that

4659
02:47:19,120 --> 02:47:21,400
there has been progress but it

4660
02:47:21,400 --> 02:47:22,700
also makes it clear that there

4661
02:47:22,700 --> 02:47:24,300
are there is still a lot

4662
02:47:24,300 --> 02:47:25,250
of work that needs to be done

4663
02:47:25,250 --> 02:47:27,250
particularly around transparent

4664
02:47:27,250 --> 02:47:30,150
sea rescue partnership spay and

4665
02:47:30,150 --> 02:47:32,700
neuter services and building

4666
02:47:32,700 --> 02:47:34,150
trust with the community. With

4667
02:47:34,150 --> 02:47:37,160
that I have a few questions.

4668
02:47:37,160 --> 02:47:38,150
staff is committed to >>

4669
02:47:38,150 --> 02:47:40,230
identifying the first cohort of

4670
02:47:40,230 --> 02:47:42,220
the community advisory group by

4671
02:47:42,220 --> 02:47:45,170
the end of the year. How will

4672
02:47:45,170 --> 02:47:46,270
members of the advisory group

4673
02:47:46,270 --> 02:47:48,150
be selected and how are we

4674
02:47:48,150 --> 02:47:49,110
making sure that some of the

4675
02:47:49,110 --> 02:47:50,260
advocates who have been most

4676
02:47:50,260 --> 02:47:52,170
critical of this shelter >>

4677
02:47:52,170 --> 02:47:55,220
have a seat at the table >> so

4678
02:47:55,220 --> 02:47:56,180
I'm going to kick this over to

4679
02:47:56,180 --> 02:47:57,180
monica in just a minute because

4680
02:47:57,180 --> 02:47:58,210
I won't be implementing this

4681
02:47:58,210 --> 02:48:00,300
piece because it'll be after

4682
02:48:00,300 --> 02:48:02,210
my term with x and so they will

4683
02:48:02,210 --> 02:48:04,150
be so they're going to spend

4684
02:48:04,150 --> 02:48:06,210
the next few months evaluating

4685
02:48:06,210 --> 02:48:07,220
relationships and kind

4686
02:48:07,220 --> 02:48:08,270
of figure out what seats need

4687
02:48:08,270 --> 02:48:10,180
to be filled what because they

4688
02:48:10,180 --> 02:48:14,400
they need to be in my mind the

4689
02:48:14,400 --> 02:48:15,160
different cohorts that they

4690
02:48:15,160 --> 02:48:16,220
advocate for or have

4691
02:48:16,220 --> 02:48:17,270
information about or have

4692
02:48:17,270 --> 02:48:19,210
information about us and so

4693
02:48:19,210 --> 02:48:22,000
monica can share what they'll

4694
02:48:22,000 --> 02:48:24,110
be a probably 7 to 10 people on

4695
02:48:24,110 --> 02:48:26,200
that first cohort just to get

4696
02:48:26,200 --> 02:48:28,800
the momentum going and they're

4697
02:48:28,800 --> 02:48:29,220
using their community forums to

4698
02:48:29,220 --> 02:48:31,600
build relationships with people

4699
02:48:31,600 --> 02:48:32,900
and they already have existing

4700
02:48:32,900 --> 02:48:33,240
relationships with community

4701
02:48:33,240 --> 02:48:34,220
members. Monica would you like

4702
02:48:34,220 --> 02:48:37,220
to share? >> >> thank you very

4703
02:48:40,260 --> 02:48:43,400
much and yes, to matt's point,

4704
02:48:43,400 --> 02:48:45,130
we are actually building out

4705
02:48:45,130 --> 02:48:47,600
the framework for this advisory

4706
02:48:47,600 --> 02:48:49,150
group and looking at some other

4707
02:48:49,150 --> 02:48:52,300
organizations that have such a

4708
02:48:52,300 --> 02:48:53,220
group in place to look at their

4709
02:48:53,220 --> 02:48:55,800
baseline, what the application

4710
02:48:55,800 --> 02:48:57,220
process looks like and the

4711
02:48:57,220 --> 02:48:59,500
representation for that

4712
02:48:59,500 --> 02:49:01,100
particular group. So john and I

4713
02:49:01,100 --> 02:49:03,210
have discussed briefly again

4714
02:49:03,210 --> 02:49:05,700
how to get this established by

4715
02:49:05,700 --> 02:49:07,110
the end of this year and are

4716
02:49:07,110 --> 02:49:09,150
working to build out those

4717
02:49:09,150 --> 02:49:11,700
pieces to make it a solid group

4718
02:49:11,700 --> 02:49:12,230
to help us move forward in the

4719
02:49:12,230 --> 02:49:14,230
community. Appreciate your

4720
02:49:15,900 --> 02:49:16,150
response but I don't think

4721
02:49:16,150 --> 02:49:17,210
my question was answered how

4722
02:49:17,210 --> 02:49:18,240
are the individuals who have

4723
02:49:18,240 --> 02:49:19,290
been raising concerns about

4724
02:49:19,290 --> 02:49:21,180
transparency going to be

4725
02:49:21,180 --> 02:49:24,180
included in this process? I

4726
02:49:25,260 --> 02:49:27,230
think depending on how this

4727
02:49:27,230 --> 02:49:29,240
group is formatted, will they

4728
02:49:29,240 --> 02:49:31,270
communicate with the group?

4729
02:49:31,270 --> 02:49:33,150
will that be relayed to the the

4730
02:49:33,150 --> 02:49:34,230
shelter itself? I think we're

4731
02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:35,290
still building that out. So

4732
02:49:35,290 --> 02:49:37,140
definitely transparency is key

4733
02:49:37,140 --> 02:49:39,800
for everything and what does

4734
02:49:39,800 --> 02:49:40,600
that look like and what

4735
02:49:40,600 --> 02:49:42,300
specifically are they looking

4736
02:49:42,300 --> 02:49:43,150
for the transparency on that

4737
02:49:43,150 --> 02:49:45,250
we're already reporting. So as

4738
02:49:45,250 --> 02:49:46,220
far as the group like I said,

4739
02:49:46,220 --> 02:49:47,260
we're building that out so we

4740
02:49:47,260 --> 02:49:49,500
we will have to build that into

4741
02:49:49,500 --> 02:49:51,300
it and get some feedback on how

4742
02:49:51,300 --> 02:49:52,210
to do that from the the group

4743
02:49:52,210 --> 02:49:54,421
>> because perhaps if since

4744
02:49:55,130 --> 02:49:56,260
they'll be in front of the nsc

4745
02:49:56,260 --> 02:49:59,100
in just about six weeks time

4746
02:49:59,100 --> 02:50:00,130
perhaps if they have a slide on

4747
02:50:00,130 --> 02:50:01,190
what they think their initial

4748
02:50:01,190 --> 02:50:02,230
thoughts are on that so they

4749
02:50:02,230 --> 02:50:04,700
can get both your feedback

4750
02:50:04,700 --> 02:50:05,280
feedback and community feedback

4751
02:50:05,280 --> 02:50:07,600
on what their thoughts are,

4752
02:50:07,600 --> 02:50:08,200
they can have a little more

4753
02:50:08,200 --> 02:50:09,190
better form thought for you

4754
02:50:09,190 --> 02:50:10,200
know >> the reason why I

4755
02:50:10,200 --> 02:50:11,180
mentioned this is because I

4756
02:50:11,180 --> 02:50:14,200
believe months ago I had asked

4757
02:50:14,200 --> 02:50:15,400
and the community had asked for

4758
02:50:15,400 --> 02:50:16,120
a community >> advisory group

4759
02:50:16,120 --> 02:50:17,000
and then I believe the

4760
02:50:17,000 --> 02:50:18,150
administration pushed back and

4761
02:50:18,150 --> 02:50:19,210
then we had these town halls

4762
02:50:19,210 --> 02:50:22,100
and then surprise, surprise now

4763
02:50:22,100 --> 02:50:23,200
we're being called upon to do

4764
02:50:23,200 --> 02:50:24,000
this community >> advisory

4765
02:50:24,000 --> 02:50:24,180
group and I would have

4766
02:50:24,180 --> 02:50:26,000
appreciated if we would have

4767
02:50:26,000 --> 02:50:27,230
went forward months ago since I

4768
02:50:27,230 --> 02:50:29,000
asked for it and now we are

4769
02:50:29,000 --> 02:50:30,200
doing it and what I don't want

4770
02:50:30,200 --> 02:50:32,190
to happen is for individuals to

4771
02:50:32,190 --> 02:50:34,419
feel like this community

4772
02:50:35,500 --> 02:50:36,190
advisory group was hand-picked

4773
02:50:36,190 --> 02:50:38,300
by the administration. I want

4774
02:50:38,300 --> 02:50:39,230
to make sure that it is made up

4775
02:50:39,230 --> 02:50:41,200
of also the individuals who are

4776
02:50:41,200 --> 02:50:43,160
raising concerns and I think if

4777
02:50:43,160 --> 02:50:46,100
it's not if we don't include >>

4778
02:50:46,100 --> 02:50:47,110
those type of individuals then

4779
02:50:47,110 --> 02:50:49,300
the integrity of the community

4780
02:50:49,300 --> 02:50:51,130
advisory group is in question.

4781
02:50:51,130 --> 02:50:54,000
I want to be clear about that

4782
02:50:54,000 --> 02:50:56,140
received >> okay. Thank you. >>

4783
02:50:56,140 --> 02:50:57,290
what authority or role will

4784
02:50:57,290 --> 02:50:59,150
that group actually have

4785
02:50:59,150 --> 02:51:00,220
because I want >> to make sure

4786
02:51:00,220 --> 02:51:03,130
as I as I mentioned that we're

4787
02:51:03,130 --> 02:51:06,500
not doing any things for show.

4788
02:51:06,500 --> 02:51:07,170
I want to make sure that

4789
02:51:07,170 --> 02:51:08,260
there's actual concrete

4790
02:51:08,260 --> 02:51:10,110
opportunities for people to

4791
02:51:10,110 --> 02:51:11,270
provide recommendations and

4792
02:51:11,270 --> 02:51:13,150
feedback and then that feedback

4793
02:51:13,150 --> 02:51:15,600
will actually influence policy

4794
02:51:15,600 --> 02:51:17,160
or operations. And so how are

4795
02:51:17,160 --> 02:51:18,110
we going to make sure that that

4796
02:51:18,110 --> 02:51:20,110
happens? So absolutely

4797
02:51:24,600 --> 02:51:26,000
recommendations and feedback

4798
02:51:26,000 --> 02:51:27,180
and then that will be viewed in

4799
02:51:27,180 --> 02:51:29,418
conjunction with the operating

4800
02:51:30,260 --> 02:51:33,700
procedures for the shelter and

4801
02:51:33,700 --> 02:51:35,160
reviewed as such. So this

4802
02:51:35,160 --> 02:51:38,100
particular group would not be

4803
02:51:38,100 --> 02:51:40,210
have power in that regard. It's

4804
02:51:40,210 --> 02:51:42,180
it's an advisory group. Let's

4805
02:51:42,180 --> 02:51:44,220
communicate, let's talk let's

4806
02:51:44,220 --> 02:51:46,900
build a better shelter. Let's

4807
02:51:46,900 --> 02:51:49,140
build a better san jose. Okay

4808
02:51:49,140 --> 02:51:50,200
but what okay they're an

4809
02:51:50,200 --> 02:51:51,270
advisory group they're

4810
02:51:51,270 --> 02:51:53,000
recommendations that are

4811
02:51:53,000 --> 02:51:54,130
provided during the meetings.

4812
02:51:54,130 --> 02:51:55,200
where does that go? Is that

4813
02:51:55,200 --> 02:51:56,240
shared to the council? Is that

4814
02:51:56,240 --> 02:51:59,800
reviewed by nsc? I want to make

4815
02:51:59,800 --> 02:52:00,280
sure that this >> isn't just

4816
02:52:00,280 --> 02:52:02,130
discussions and then there's no

4817
02:52:02,130 --> 02:52:03,180
action items or no follow

4818
02:52:03,180 --> 02:52:06,800
through. >> that's a great

4819
02:52:06,800 --> 02:52:07,230
point and I guess that's what

4820
02:52:07,230 --> 02:52:09,400
we'll build in when we have

4821
02:52:09,400 --> 02:52:10,170
this product for october to

4822
02:52:10,170 --> 02:52:12,100
share. Thank you. That's what I

4823
02:52:12,100 --> 02:52:13,210
was I >> was looking for. We've

4824
02:52:13,210 --> 02:52:14,230
talked about increasing the

4825
02:52:14,230 --> 02:52:16,100
number of rescue partnerships

4826
02:52:16,100 --> 02:52:18,600
but how are we measuring the

4827
02:52:18,600 --> 02:52:19,240
quality of those relationships?

4828
02:52:19,240 --> 02:52:21,150
are we regularly seeking

4829
02:52:21,150 --> 02:52:22,220
feedback from our rescue

4830
02:52:22,220 --> 02:52:24,600
partners on what's working,

4831
02:52:24,600 --> 02:52:25,220
what isn't working and what

4832
02:52:25,220 --> 02:52:27,000
barriers are preventing them

4833
02:52:27,000 --> 02:52:29,190
from taking in more animals? >>

4834
02:52:29,190 --> 02:52:31,110
we currently have a monthly

4835
02:52:31,110 --> 02:52:33,100
rescue partner meeting that's

4836
02:52:33,100 --> 02:52:34,160
been going on for the last

4837
02:52:34,160 --> 02:52:36,100
couple of months with it's with

4838
02:52:36,100 --> 02:52:38,200
our current rescue partners and

4839
02:52:38,200 --> 02:52:40,110
I leave the meeting there's a

4840
02:52:40,110 --> 02:52:41,200
meeting this thursday and there

4841
02:52:41,200 --> 02:52:43,100
will be a survey a satisfaction

4842
02:52:43,100 --> 02:52:46,100
survey to highlight some pain

4843
02:52:46,100 --> 02:52:47,140
points or what's working well

4844
02:52:47,140 --> 02:52:49,300
and assess some of their needs

4845
02:52:49,300 --> 02:52:50,130
and recommendations from those

4846
02:52:50,130 --> 02:52:52,110
groups. And then we're also

4847
02:52:52,110 --> 02:52:53,180
looking at how many new groups

4848
02:52:53,180 --> 02:52:55,260
we've added, how many active

4849
02:52:55,260 --> 02:52:57,270
rescue partners we have because

4850
02:52:57,270 --> 02:52:59,110
there are partners that haven't

4851
02:52:59,110 --> 02:53:00,190
taken any animals for some

4852
02:53:00,190 --> 02:53:03,600
time. And so again building on

4853
02:53:03,600 --> 02:53:05,800
that platform and regular

4854
02:53:05,800 --> 02:53:07,270
communication. >> thank you. I

4855
02:53:07,270 --> 02:53:09,170
appreciate that answer. The

4856
02:53:09,170 --> 02:53:10,220
grand jury also recommended

4857
02:53:10,220 --> 02:53:11,250
quarterly reporting on the

4858
02:53:11,250 --> 02:53:13,300
number of animals turned away

4859
02:53:13,300 --> 02:53:15,260
because >> of capacity staff is

4860
02:53:15,260 --> 02:53:16,290
proposing to collect that

4861
02:53:16,290 --> 02:53:18,230
information reported annually

4862
02:53:18,230 --> 02:53:19,210
rather than bringing in

4863
02:53:19,210 --> 02:53:21,230
quarterly reports to committee.

4864
02:53:21,230 --> 02:53:23,000
I understand that quarterly

4865
02:53:23,000 --> 02:53:25,190
reports is is more work for

4866
02:53:25,190 --> 02:53:27,200
staff but if we're already

4867
02:53:27,200 --> 02:53:28,100
collecting this data is there a

4868
02:53:28,100 --> 02:53:30,000
way to automate or publish more

4869
02:53:30,000 --> 02:53:31,240
frequently without requiring

4870
02:53:31,240 --> 02:53:32,280
staff to prepare a separate

4871
02:53:32,280 --> 02:53:35,280
report each time? I would

4872
02:53:36,200 --> 02:53:37,190
presume that we'd end up

4873
02:53:37,190 --> 02:53:38,240
getting someplace like a

4874
02:53:38,240 --> 02:53:40,800
dashboard like we have now

4875
02:53:40,800 --> 02:53:41,290
which has active transmission

4876
02:53:41,290 --> 02:53:44,629
of information in terms of I

4877
02:53:45,200 --> 02:53:46,250
don't it's a it's an

4878
02:53:46,250 --> 02:53:48,250
interesting single metric

4879
02:53:49,300 --> 02:53:50,120
of what the activity is at the

4880
02:53:50,120 --> 02:53:51,800
shelter. There are so many

4881
02:53:51,800 --> 02:53:53,160
other activities in addition to

4882
02:53:53,160 --> 02:53:55,900
healthy animals if you look

4883
02:53:55,900 --> 02:53:56,200
at the recommendation is

4884
02:53:56,200 --> 02:53:57,200
healthy animals that are turned

4885
02:53:57,200 --> 02:53:58,230
away from the shelter due to

4886
02:53:58,230 --> 02:54:00,220
capacity. It's a very narrow

4887
02:54:00,220 --> 02:54:01,260
thing compared to all of the

4888
02:54:01,260 --> 02:54:03,700
other lives that they touch

4889
02:54:03,700 --> 02:54:05,300
there and so to have that as a

4890
02:54:05,300 --> 02:54:07,300
regular report issued to a

4891
02:54:07,300 --> 02:54:08,600
committee or council seems a

4892
02:54:08,600 --> 02:54:09,210
little bit odd considering

4893
02:54:09,210 --> 02:54:10,250
compared to compared to all

4894
02:54:10,250 --> 02:54:12,800
of the other things and so they

4895
02:54:12,800 --> 02:54:13,600
need to work on gathering it,

4896
02:54:13,600 --> 02:54:14,800
make sure they have the data

4897
02:54:14,800 --> 02:54:15,280
feed and the collection correct

4898
02:54:15,280 --> 02:54:17,900
and then publish probably a

4899
02:54:17,900 --> 02:54:18,120
dashboard or some other kind

4900
02:54:18,120 --> 02:54:20,240
of report likely. But the again

4901
02:54:20,240 --> 02:54:21,290
regulated consistent

4902
02:54:21,290 --> 02:54:23,500
information usually hits at the

4903
02:54:23,500 --> 02:54:24,230
annual report for how many in

4904
02:54:24,230 --> 02:54:27,000
total? So as long as it's being

4905
02:54:27,000 --> 02:54:28,300
reported and shared in a

4906
02:54:28,300 --> 02:54:29,500
dashboard or something like

4907
02:54:29,500 --> 02:54:30,240
that, I think that's fine. The

4908
02:54:30,240 --> 02:54:32,170
report also >> speaks to the

4909
02:54:32,170 --> 02:54:33,190
staffing and capacity

4910
02:54:33,190 --> 02:54:35,280
challenges at the shelter as we

4911
02:54:35,280 --> 02:54:37,500
ask staff to improve

4912
02:54:37,500 --> 02:54:38,290
transparency, expand services

4913
02:54:38,290 --> 02:54:40,200
and strengthen rescue

4914
02:54:40,200 --> 02:54:41,170
partnerships and implement

4915
02:54:41,170 --> 02:54:42,250
these recommendations. Do we

4916
02:54:42,250 --> 02:54:44,160
currently have the staffing in

4917
02:54:44,160 --> 02:54:46,210
resources to realistically do

4918
02:54:46,210 --> 02:54:48,200
all that and if not, what are

4919
02:54:48,200 --> 02:54:49,240
the biggest gaps that the

4920
02:54:49,240 --> 02:54:52,240
council >> should be aware of?

4921
02:54:55,600 --> 02:54:56,230
well I'll go first in the

4922
02:54:56,230 --> 02:54:59,623
monitoring. Yeah. So we have a

4923
02:55:00,120 --> 02:55:02,300
very low vacancy rate at animal

4924
02:55:02,300 --> 02:55:03,210
care and services compared to

4925
02:55:03,210 --> 02:55:05,170
other positions in the city. I

4926
02:55:05,170 --> 02:55:06,230
would say most of the city has

4927
02:55:06,230 --> 02:55:07,250
decreased their vacancy rate

4928
02:55:07,250 --> 02:55:10,100
but when it was in public works

4929
02:55:10,100 --> 02:55:11,220
and pureness has the same

4930
02:55:11,220 --> 02:55:13,250
approach likely is to have a

4931
02:55:13,250 --> 02:55:15,250
very aggressive recruiting

4932
02:55:16,210 --> 02:55:18,400
footprint in terms of filling

4933
02:55:18,400 --> 02:55:21,400
vacancies for that service. I

4934
02:55:22,000 --> 02:55:23,180
think the community survey will

4935
02:55:23,180 --> 02:55:25,400
indicate where the biggest gaps

4936
02:55:25,400 --> 02:55:25,280
are compared to what we

4937
02:55:25,280 --> 02:55:27,200
currently have in terms

4938
02:55:27,200 --> 02:55:29,600
of service delivery in terms

4939
02:55:29,600 --> 02:55:30,230
of what the what the community

4940
02:55:30,230 --> 02:55:33,623
needs and then with council we

4941
02:55:34,700 --> 02:55:36,200
can define what is the role

4942
02:55:36,200 --> 02:55:38,190
of san jose's animal shelter in

4943
02:55:38,190 --> 02:55:40,600
filling that role that need.

4944
02:55:40,600 --> 02:55:41,180
and so I think it's a little

4945
02:55:41,180 --> 02:55:42,150
premature to say what the

4946
02:55:42,150 --> 02:55:43,210
biggest gap is some of the

4947
02:55:43,210 --> 02:55:45,800
hardest things to recruit I can

4948
02:55:45,800 --> 02:55:47,600
talk to that registered vet

4949
02:55:47,600 --> 02:55:48,230
techs and veterinarians are the

4950
02:55:48,230 --> 02:55:50,800
two hardest classifications to

4951
02:55:50,800 --> 02:55:51,190
recruit. We're always

4952
02:55:51,190 --> 02:55:52,210
recruiting for animal care

4953
02:55:52,210 --> 02:55:53,280
attendants because it's a very

4954
02:55:53,280 --> 02:55:55,200
transient class because they're

4955
02:55:55,200 --> 02:55:56,110
very new workers in the work

4956
02:55:56,110 --> 02:55:58,600
environment and so they find

4957
02:55:58,600 --> 02:55:59,700
out that the job is not for

4958
02:55:59,700 --> 02:56:01,300
them and they move on or and so

4959
02:56:01,300 --> 02:56:02,200
we have a lot of movement

4960
02:56:02,200 --> 02:56:03,300
there. But the hardest to

4961
02:56:03,300 --> 02:56:04,240
recruit still remains

4962
02:56:04,240 --> 02:56:06,400
veterinarians, even part time

4963
02:56:06,400 --> 02:56:07,300
veterinarians we've been

4964
02:56:07,300 --> 02:56:08,240
recruiting for those endlessly

4965
02:56:08,240 --> 02:56:10,140
seeking and interviewing

4966
02:56:10,140 --> 02:56:11,190
monthly or every other month

4967
02:56:11,190 --> 02:56:13,110
new vet to try to get through.

4968
02:56:13,110 --> 02:56:14,170
we've tried multiple things and

4969
02:56:14,170 --> 02:56:15,900
they're going to continue to

4970
02:56:15,900 --> 02:56:16,700
try multiple things to get

4971
02:56:16,700 --> 02:56:18,270
that. All right. I might

4972
02:56:18,270 --> 02:56:20,400
my light is blinking so it's

4973
02:56:20,400 --> 02:56:21,280
my last question on >> spay and

4974
02:56:21,280 --> 02:56:23,120
neuter services council has

4975
02:56:23,120 --> 02:56:24,180
already approved additional

4976
02:56:24,180 --> 02:56:27,300
funding to expand capacity. Can

4977
02:56:27,300 --> 02:56:27,280
you talk about what we can

4978
02:56:27,280 --> 02:56:29,400
expect to >> see in terms

4979
02:56:29,400 --> 02:56:30,130
of expanded spay and neuter

4980
02:56:30,130 --> 02:56:31,160
services over the next few

4981
02:56:31,160 --> 02:56:33,300
months? And as we increase that

4982
02:56:33,300 --> 02:56:34,230
capacity, do we have a sense

4983
02:56:34,230 --> 02:56:35,260
of what >> level of service we

4984
02:56:35,260 --> 02:56:37,210
ultimately need to reach to

4985
02:56:37,210 --> 02:56:39,700
meaningfully reduce the number

4986
02:56:39,700 --> 02:56:40,300
of animals entering our

4987
02:56:40,300 --> 02:56:41,220
shelter? Well, monica gets the

4988
02:56:41,220 --> 02:56:42,250
specifics. I think I answered

4989
02:56:42,250 --> 02:56:44,000
that in part to the mayor not

4990
02:56:44,000 --> 02:56:45,230
to try to punt off the question

4991
02:56:45,230 --> 02:56:48,623
is we do believe that increase

4992
02:56:49,100 --> 02:56:50,270
spay neuter is a is a need for

4993
02:56:50,270 --> 02:56:52,140
the community and the shelter

4994
02:56:52,140 --> 02:56:54,110
is committed to doing more. And

4995
02:56:54,110 --> 02:56:57,100
so in october when they're in

4996
02:56:57,100 --> 02:56:58,800
front of you at a.s. They'll

4997
02:56:58,800 --> 02:56:59,140
presenting this is what we

4998
02:56:59,140 --> 02:57:00,200
achieved and this is the target

4999
02:57:00,200 --> 02:57:01,190
and this is what we expect in

5000
02:57:01,190 --> 02:57:03,400
terms of growth. This is what

5001
02:57:03,400 --> 02:57:04,300
we're targeting for additional

5002
02:57:04,300 --> 02:57:05,130
resources. I know they're

5003
02:57:05,130 --> 02:57:07,800
soliciting additional vendors

5004
02:57:07,800 --> 02:57:08,180
to help support in that because

5005
02:57:08,180 --> 02:57:09,200
that's specifically what the

5006
02:57:09,200 --> 02:57:11,120
budget was targeted for and so

5007
02:57:11,120 --> 02:57:13,300
we're going to see what that

5008
02:57:13,300 --> 02:57:14,500
number gets us, what that

5009
02:57:14,500 --> 02:57:14,260
dollar amount that was

5010
02:57:14,260 --> 02:57:16,300
provided, how many more spay

5011
02:57:16,300 --> 02:57:17,000
neuter surgeries can be

5012
02:57:17,000 --> 02:57:18,300
provided with that and that'll

5013
02:57:18,300 --> 02:57:19,300
get reported to the committee

5014
02:57:19,300 --> 02:57:21,600
in october. Thank you.

5015
02:57:21,600 --> 02:57:22,110
appreciate the presentation.

5016
02:57:22,110 --> 02:57:23,800
look forward to my colleagues

5017
02:57:23,800 --> 02:57:25,800
questions. Councilmember mayor

5018
02:57:27,600 --> 02:57:28,210
if I would like to address a

5019
02:57:28,210 --> 02:57:29,160
little bit of the community

5020
02:57:29,160 --> 02:57:30,170
engagement questions that you

5021
02:57:30,170 --> 02:57:32,600
had and clearly we're still

5022
02:57:32,600 --> 02:57:32,290
working out a lot of the

5023
02:57:32,290 --> 02:57:34,600
details. Right. So we're not

5024
02:57:34,600 --> 02:57:36,300
prepared just right today to

5025
02:57:36,300 --> 02:57:37,160
kind of give you all the the

5026
02:57:37,160 --> 02:57:39,130
logistical but I do want to

5027
02:57:39,130 --> 02:57:42,280
address a dynamic that is it's

5028
02:57:42,280 --> 02:57:44,500
easy to talk about and harder

5029
02:57:44,500 --> 02:57:46,170
to do. You know, when you know,

5030
02:57:46,170 --> 02:57:48,200
I want to I want to be >> real

5031
02:57:48,200 --> 02:57:50,700
clear that staff is is

5032
02:57:50,700 --> 02:57:52,150
completely open to critical

5033
02:57:52,150 --> 02:57:54,150
opinions, perspectives, ideas,

5034
02:57:54,230 --> 02:57:56,280
even contrarian ideas. Steph is

5035
02:57:56,280 --> 02:57:59,100
definitely open to that. Where

5036
02:57:59,100 --> 02:58:02,100
it's >> problematic is when

5037
02:58:02,400 --> 02:58:03,180
some of those perspectives or

5038
02:58:03,180 --> 02:58:05,130
the advice is in all comes from

5039
02:58:05,130 --> 02:58:06,260
an all or nothing approach or

5040
02:58:06,260 --> 02:58:08,230
comes from a we want you to

5041
02:58:08,230 --> 02:58:10,500
hire this person and fire this

5042
02:58:10,500 --> 02:58:11,270
person and where where some

5043
02:58:11,270 --> 02:58:13,900
of the lines get blurred. And

5044
02:58:13,900 --> 02:58:16,900
so I just want to kind of, you

5045
02:58:16,900 --> 02:58:17,130
know, put the caveat out there

5046
02:58:17,130 --> 02:58:19,160
that as we convene this group

5047
02:58:19,160 --> 02:58:20,260
we need to find people that

5048
02:58:20,260 --> 02:58:22,110
understand that transparency

5049
02:58:22,110 --> 02:58:24,200
goes two ways, communication

5050
02:58:24,200 --> 02:58:27,000
goes two ways trust is built

5051
02:58:27,000 --> 02:58:30,000
two ways and unless people

5052
02:58:30,900 --> 02:58:31,260
including us, the city are

5053
02:58:31,260 --> 02:58:33,140
willing to kind of come to this

5054
02:58:33,140 --> 02:58:35,290
work in a way in a manner where

5055
02:58:35,290 --> 02:58:36,270
we're putting the best

5056
02:58:36,270 --> 02:58:38,500
interests of the animals under

5057
02:58:38,500 --> 02:58:40,110
our care first then I think it

5058
02:58:40,110 --> 02:58:41,220
will be successful otherwise

5059
02:58:41,220 --> 02:58:43,300
we'll end up in this continual

5060
02:58:43,300 --> 02:58:45,260
stalemate. I will say that

5061
02:58:45,260 --> 02:58:47,130
there are a lot of other

5062
02:58:47,130 --> 02:58:48,120
perspectives that you won't

5063
02:58:48,120 --> 02:58:49,190
hear today or you won't hear

5064
02:58:49,190 --> 02:58:50,260
publicly because it's very

5065
02:58:50,260 --> 02:58:51,290
difficult for someone to come

5066
02:58:51,290 --> 02:58:53,110
up and say you know what, we

5067
02:58:53,110 --> 02:58:54,100
support staff in these

5068
02:58:54,100 --> 02:58:56,200
different efforts. But anyway,

5069
02:58:56,200 --> 02:58:57,270
I just wanted to highlight the

5070
02:58:57,270 --> 02:58:59,200
obvious because that is a

5071
02:58:59,200 --> 02:59:01,900
dynamic that we rarely talk

5072
02:59:01,900 --> 02:59:02,230
about but it plays out on a

5073
02:59:02,230 --> 02:59:05,130
daily basis and is very tough

5074
02:59:05,130 --> 02:59:07,110
on staff to to work in that

5075
02:59:07,110 --> 02:59:08,240
environment where it's all or

5076
02:59:08,240 --> 02:59:10,180
nothing. There's a lot of gray

5077
02:59:10,180 --> 02:59:11,130
area here that we've got to

5078
02:59:11,130 --> 02:59:12,260
navigate and so I just wanted

5079
02:59:12,260 --> 02:59:13,280
to kind of just put that out

5080
02:59:13,280 --> 02:59:15,140
there because this will be

5081
02:59:15,140 --> 02:59:17,120
tough work. No, I totally

5082
02:59:17,120 --> 02:59:19,900
understand that angel and I

5083
02:59:19,900 --> 02:59:22,210
think that is fair. I just want

5084
02:59:22,210 --> 02:59:24,250
to make sure that as we do this

5085
02:59:24,250 --> 02:59:27,900
community advisory group we do

5086
02:59:27,900 --> 02:59:29,220
so by choosing individuals from

5087
02:59:29,220 --> 02:59:30,200
all different sides of the

5088
02:59:30,200 --> 02:59:32,100
aisle and all different

5089
02:59:32,100 --> 02:59:34,200
perspectives >> because you

5090
02:59:34,200 --> 02:59:35,130
know then there will be

5091
02:59:35,130 --> 02:59:37,900
questions about the integrity

5092
02:59:37,900 --> 02:59:38,900
of the committee and you know,

5093
02:59:38,900 --> 02:59:39,250
to be brutally honest I have to

5094
02:59:39,250 --> 02:59:41,500
work with people who don't

5095
02:59:41,500 --> 02:59:42,230
agree with my votes, who don't

5096
02:59:42,230 --> 02:59:44,200
agree with what I've done as a

5097
02:59:44,200 --> 02:59:45,160
council member. That's called

5098
02:59:45,160 --> 02:59:47,120
being a public servant. And so

5099
02:59:47,120 --> 02:59:49,140
unfortunately we we have to do

5100
02:59:49,140 --> 02:59:50,260
hard things. And you know, you

5101
02:59:50,260 --> 02:59:52,110
mentioned, you know, people

5102
02:59:52,110 --> 02:59:54,300
talking >> about hire and fire.

5103
02:59:54,300 --> 02:59:55,110
this has been >> going on for

5104
02:59:55,110 --> 02:59:57,110
years. You know this was going

5105
02:59:57,110 --> 02:59:59,400
on in my council office.

5106
02:59:59,400 --> 03:00:00,130
somebody would have recalled

5107
03:00:00,130 --> 03:00:01,190
me somebody or I wouldn't have

5108
03:00:01,190 --> 03:00:03,600
got elected. And so there is a

5109
03:00:03,600 --> 03:00:04,500
question about and I know

5110
03:00:04,500 --> 03:00:06,180
monica you're new but to

5111
03:00:06,180 --> 03:00:07,260
me personally >> there is a

5112
03:00:07,260 --> 03:00:08,200
question about how can we

5113
03:00:08,200 --> 03:00:09,220
continue to be in the news, how

5114
03:00:09,220 --> 03:00:10,120
can we continue to have

5115
03:00:10,120 --> 03:00:12,900
problems and nobody has lost

5116
03:00:12,900 --> 03:00:14,600
their job that that is that is

5117
03:00:14,600 --> 03:00:15,600
a concern for me and I've

5118
03:00:15,600 --> 03:00:16,700
personally mentioned that to

5119
03:00:16,700 --> 03:00:18,407
matt. Thank you. Thanks,

5120
03:00:20,600 --> 03:00:20,230
councilmember >>. Appreciate

5121
03:00:20,230 --> 03:00:22,230
your good questions and

5122
03:00:22,230 --> 03:00:24,210
advocacy. Let me turn now to to

5123
03:00:24,210 --> 03:00:26,421
one >> thank >> you mayor.

5124
03:00:29,200 --> 03:00:31,300
thank you to the speakers and

5125
03:00:31,300 --> 03:00:33,120
the volunteer hours and the

5126
03:00:33,120 --> 03:00:35,100
rescue partner that come out

5127
03:00:35,100 --> 03:00:38,610
and address your concern. I'd

5128
03:00:40,140 --> 03:00:41,250
like to thank the staff for the

5129
03:00:41,250 --> 03:00:43,900
report and the work to have

5130
03:00:43,900 --> 03:00:46,180
gone through the audits and we

5131
03:00:46,180 --> 03:00:48,140
revise and hopefully we can

5132
03:00:48,140 --> 03:00:51,160
find a better solution and I

5133
03:00:51,160 --> 03:00:53,130
know that sometimes that

5134
03:00:53,130 --> 03:00:56,130
solution may not meet the

5135
03:00:56,180 --> 03:00:57,240
perception or understand

5136
03:00:57,240 --> 03:01:00,300
of other but we'll do our best.

5137
03:01:00,300 --> 03:01:02,170
but in november 2020 for

5138
03:01:02,170 --> 03:01:04,260
my office along with

5139
03:01:04,260 --> 03:01:06,260
councilmember combet,

5140
03:01:06,280 --> 03:01:07,240
councilmember ortiz and the

5141
03:01:07,240 --> 03:01:09,500
mayor brought forth a memo

5142
03:01:09,500 --> 03:01:11,100
regarding you know, the

5143
03:01:11,100 --> 03:01:13,140
san jose animal care services

5144
03:01:13,140 --> 03:01:15,170
audit and those audit was >>

5145
03:01:15,170 --> 03:01:18,300
very clear on a lot of issues

5146
03:01:18,300 --> 03:01:20,170
that we need to work on and to

5147
03:01:20,170 --> 03:01:23,150
now >> I believe how many those

5148
03:01:23,150 --> 03:01:25,130
>> audits recommendation >>

5149
03:01:25,130 --> 03:01:27,100
have we completed all of them.

5150
03:01:27,100 --> 03:01:31,120
all of them okay that's that's

5151
03:01:31,120 --> 03:01:33,600
thank you for doing that and

5152
03:01:33,600 --> 03:01:34,220
even then we still have other

5153
03:01:34,220 --> 03:01:38,290
work to do. And >> in that memo

5154
03:01:38,290 --> 03:01:41,629
that we put out in 2000 2424 we

5155
03:01:42,800 --> 03:01:44,170
call for a work plan to expand

5156
03:01:44,170 --> 03:01:46,240
the low cost space and neuters

5157
03:01:46,240 --> 03:01:48,150
and so on and I understand that

5158
03:01:48,150 --> 03:01:50,260
you're working with milpitas as

5159
03:01:50,260 --> 03:01:54,226
well as private vet to do those

5160
03:01:55,230 --> 03:01:58,600
spaces and neuter is is that

5161
03:01:58,600 --> 03:02:01,000
correct? We are contracted with

5162
03:02:01,000 --> 03:02:02,170
the city of milpitas to provide

5163
03:02:02,170 --> 03:02:04,160
them sheltering and animal

5164
03:02:04,160 --> 03:02:07,160
control services for the city.

5165
03:02:07,180 --> 03:02:08,260
at times we have we do have a

5166
03:02:08,260 --> 03:02:10,250
contract with a organization

5167
03:02:10,250 --> 03:02:11,260
humane society of silicon

5168
03:02:11,260 --> 03:02:14,900
valley in milpitas and we have

5169
03:02:14,900 --> 03:02:15,280
contract we are we can have

5170
03:02:15,280 --> 03:02:17,428
animals had certain given

5171
03:02:18,150 --> 03:02:21,150
surgery there at that location.

5172
03:02:21,220 --> 03:02:23,800
they have done surgeries at our

5173
03:02:23,800 --> 03:02:26,500
location using our facility but

5174
03:02:26,500 --> 03:02:28,210
we are not this is not for the

5175
03:02:28,210 --> 03:02:31,621
city in general but okay have

5176
03:02:32,200 --> 03:02:35,200
you prioritize the the rescue

5177
03:02:37,270 --> 03:02:39,427
partner or identified certain

5178
03:02:40,110 --> 03:02:42,250
particular rescue partner group

5179
03:02:42,250 --> 03:02:45,600
that we could collaborate and

5180
03:02:45,600 --> 03:02:47,230
partner with to to reduce that

5181
03:02:47,230 --> 03:02:50,260
amount of you know, the stray

5182
03:02:50,260 --> 03:02:54,826
cats and dogs if you will? I'll

5183
03:02:55,900 --> 03:02:56,250
start monica can clean it up

5184
03:02:56,250 --> 03:02:57,230
and she'll get it right and

5185
03:02:57,230 --> 03:03:00,210
homeless we I believe we had

5186
03:03:00,210 --> 03:03:02,180
over the highest record

5187
03:03:02,180 --> 03:03:04,900
of animal partnerships rescue

5188
03:03:04,900 --> 03:03:05,210
partnerships last year than we

5189
03:03:05,210 --> 03:03:07,000
had in year four and again I'll

5190
03:03:07,000 --> 03:03:09,160
say one of our dog rescues

5191
03:03:09,160 --> 03:03:11,300
rescued more dogs last year

5192
03:03:11,300 --> 03:03:12,160
than any species in the last

5193
03:03:12,160 --> 03:03:14,160
five years and that was a new

5194
03:03:14,160 --> 03:03:15,250
relationship that was formed in

5195
03:03:15,250 --> 03:03:18,110
the last two years. And so they

5196
03:03:18,110 --> 03:03:20,700
had almost 400 animals that

5197
03:03:20,700 --> 03:03:21,190
were rescued by that one

5198
03:03:21,190 --> 03:03:23,120
organization last year and they

5199
03:03:23,120 --> 03:03:24,220
continue to seek more. They

5200
03:03:24,220 --> 03:03:26,400
continue to do better. They

5201
03:03:26,400 --> 03:03:27,700
continue to build on those

5202
03:03:27,700 --> 03:03:28,290
relationships on all species,

5203
03:03:28,290 --> 03:03:31,140
both cats and dogs and it is a

5204
03:03:31,140 --> 03:03:33,140
continued relationship building

5205
03:03:33,160 --> 03:03:36,616
effort that they're working on.

5206
03:03:38,500 --> 03:03:39,150
I was just going to say as I'm

5207
03:03:39,150 --> 03:03:41,600
poring over the data for last

5208
03:03:41,600 --> 03:03:44,000
year, I do believe the rescue

5209
03:03:44,000 --> 03:03:47,000
numbers were up almost 500 last

5210
03:03:47,200 --> 03:03:48,150
fiscal year over the year

5211
03:03:48,150 --> 03:03:50,130
prior. So again continuing to

5212
03:03:50,130 --> 03:03:52,130
build those relationships.

5213
03:03:53,600 --> 03:03:55,400
thank >> you. And I know

5214
03:03:55,400 --> 03:03:56,200
there's a lot of been changes

5215
03:03:56,200 --> 03:03:59,600
with the strikes and I know

5216
03:03:59,600 --> 03:04:00,190
that we're under you guys are

5217
03:04:00,190 --> 03:04:03,190
underneath pureness but there's

5218
03:04:04,120 --> 03:04:06,412
an ongoing issues about

5219
03:04:07,270 --> 03:04:09,427
transparency. How >> do you

5220
03:04:12,700 --> 03:04:13,180
know the the perception out

5221
03:04:13,180 --> 03:04:15,300
there that we're not doing

5222
03:04:15,300 --> 03:04:17,270
enough? How do we get our

5223
03:04:17,270 --> 03:04:19,260
partnership together including

5224
03:04:19,260 --> 03:04:22,626
the public to volunteer to have

5225
03:04:23,200 --> 03:04:25,290
a forum where it can be

5226
03:04:25,290 --> 03:04:28,290
publicized with action item an

5227
03:04:29,130 --> 03:04:31,300
implementation of those action

5228
03:04:31,300 --> 03:04:33,700
item and what is the end result

5229
03:04:33,700 --> 03:04:36,607
? Couple of things there. I do

5230
03:04:40,100 --> 03:04:42,240
believe recommendation in one

5231
03:04:42,240 --> 03:04:44,290
of the fives were the doing a

5232
03:04:44,290 --> 03:04:47,120
community survey of really very

5233
03:04:47,120 --> 03:04:49,900
clearly understanding what the

5234
03:04:49,900 --> 03:04:51,600
problem set is so that it's a

5235
03:04:51,600 --> 03:04:53,000
measurable target instead

5236
03:04:53,000 --> 03:04:55,110
of just more. Many times we

5237
03:04:55,110 --> 03:04:56,190
agree that more things need to

5238
03:04:56,190 --> 03:04:58,900
be done in particular areas and

5239
03:04:58,900 --> 03:05:00,100
specific areas but that you

5240
03:05:00,100 --> 03:05:01,210
need to do more of this what

5241
03:05:01,210 --> 03:05:03,600
are we shooting at and then

5242
03:05:03,600 --> 03:05:04,160
because we need to be able to

5243
03:05:04,160 --> 03:05:06,150
provide you this is the gap

5244
03:05:06,150 --> 03:05:07,170
between what the community

5245
03:05:07,170 --> 03:05:08,250
needs are and what we're able

5246
03:05:08,250 --> 03:05:09,200
to do with our current

5247
03:05:09,200 --> 03:05:11,110
resources. So you have the

5248
03:05:11,110 --> 03:05:13,290
choices to influence whether

5249
03:05:13,290 --> 03:05:15,160
there's a policy need there or

5250
03:05:15,160 --> 03:05:16,220
augmentation in terms

5251
03:05:16,220 --> 03:05:17,180
of resources or if we're

5252
03:05:17,180 --> 03:05:19,300
hitting the target. I we've

5253
03:05:19,300 --> 03:05:20,120
thought this for years but we

5254
03:05:20,120 --> 03:05:21,180
had so many other things to

5255
03:05:21,180 --> 03:05:23,190
work on that were more urgent.

5256
03:05:23,190 --> 03:05:24,260
but now we're at this place,

5257
03:05:24,260 --> 03:05:26,170
we're studying that and making

5258
03:05:26,170 --> 03:05:27,190
sure we understand what the

5259
03:05:27,190 --> 03:05:29,000
community needs in very

5260
03:05:29,000 --> 03:05:30,140
particular and detailed ways

5261
03:05:30,140 --> 03:05:32,500
across all these different

5262
03:05:32,500 --> 03:05:33,200
streams of service is very

5263
03:05:33,200 --> 03:05:36,400
important and it's timely. >>

5264
03:05:36,400 --> 03:05:40,230
thank you. I know the we offer

5265
03:05:40,230 --> 03:05:43,140
euthanized service to the the

5266
03:05:43,140 --> 03:05:45,290
owner or the family of the pet

5267
03:05:45,290 --> 03:05:49,829
cats or dogs. We I know that we

5268
03:05:52,120 --> 03:05:54,200
don't allow family members to

5269
03:05:54,200 --> 03:05:56,170
be in there but other occurs

5270
03:05:56,170 --> 03:05:59,230
does how can we change the

5271
03:05:59,230 --> 03:06:01,423
process to allow grieving

5272
03:06:04,100 --> 03:06:05,150
family members to hold their

5273
03:06:05,150 --> 03:06:08,615
pets and you know, say goodbye?

5274
03:06:09,000 --> 03:06:10,180
well, there you know, with the

5275
03:06:10,180 --> 03:06:13,618
service that we have I think

5276
03:06:15,210 --> 03:06:16,180
that would be something we

5277
03:06:16,180 --> 03:06:18,160
would need to look at staffing

5278
03:06:18,160 --> 03:06:20,500
capacity because it does

5279
03:06:20,500 --> 03:06:23,500
require more staffing for that.

5280
03:06:23,130 --> 03:06:24,240
and so if that's something that

5281
03:06:24,240 --> 03:06:26,220
we need to put on the horizon

5282
03:06:26,220 --> 03:06:28,110
for down the road, absolutely.

5283
03:06:28,110 --> 03:06:29,210
but it does require a different

5284
03:06:29,210 --> 03:06:31,700
level of staffing to

5285
03:06:31,700 --> 03:06:33,700
accommodate that sort

5286
03:06:33,220 --> 03:06:35,280
of feature in a shelter and

5287
03:06:35,280 --> 03:06:37,400
coming from a shelter where we

5288
03:06:37,400 --> 03:06:38,250
did provide that it does take

5289
03:06:38,250 --> 03:06:40,150
more staffing and support in

5290
03:06:40,150 --> 03:06:42,140
that regard. >> all right. Well

5291
03:06:42,140 --> 03:06:43,150
thank you for looking into

5292
03:06:43,150 --> 03:06:45,600
that. And the last question I

5293
03:06:45,600 --> 03:06:48,120
have is how many volunteers can

5294
03:06:48,120 --> 03:06:49,110
we accept and how many

5295
03:06:49,110 --> 03:06:52,110
volunteers do we have now >>

5296
03:06:53,150 --> 03:06:55,280
the last count I have was 300

5297
03:06:55,280 --> 03:06:57,428
active volunteers not including

5298
03:06:58,300 --> 03:07:01,300
fosters and we definitely want

5299
03:07:01,300 --> 03:07:03,170
to bump up that number. We have

5300
03:07:03,170 --> 03:07:05,170
volunteer orientation this

5301
03:07:06,000 --> 03:07:07,270
saturday and they're done in

5302
03:07:07,270 --> 03:07:09,230
person now so we do invite

5303
03:07:09,230 --> 03:07:11,140
folks to come down, attend

5304
03:07:11,140 --> 03:07:12,260
volunteer one on one general

5305
03:07:12,260 --> 03:07:14,270
orientation and I'd love to see

5306
03:07:14,270 --> 03:07:16,100
that number grow pretty

5307
03:07:16,100 --> 03:07:19,800
dramatically to get up there to

5308
03:07:19,800 --> 03:07:21,400
help with the animals and serve

5309
03:07:21,400 --> 03:07:23,500
the community better. >> thank

5310
03:07:23,500 --> 03:07:25,100
you very much. And with that I

5311
03:07:25,100 --> 03:07:28,100
move to accept the report. >>

5312
03:07:28,210 --> 03:07:30,210
thanks councilmember. Okay,

5313
03:07:31,190 --> 03:07:33,140
we're going to kill some. Okay

5314
03:07:33,140 --> 03:07:36,140
. Thank you, mayor. Thank you,

5315
03:07:38,200 --> 03:07:41,900
monica, matt and angel all for

5316
03:07:41,900 --> 03:07:44,130
the report today. I think this

5317
03:07:44,130 --> 03:07:47,200
is sort of a jason to council

5318
03:07:47,200 --> 03:07:48,230
member or tease and I think

5319
03:07:48,230 --> 03:07:50,423
maybe councilmember doogan just

5320
03:07:51,300 --> 03:07:52,700
sort of picked up on it with

5321
03:07:52,700 --> 03:07:55,000
you. Monica, you know the

5322
03:07:55,000 --> 03:07:57,600
volunteer piece, right? We've

5323
03:07:57,600 --> 03:07:59,120
heard some mixed commentary

5324
03:07:59,120 --> 03:08:01,300
from even our volunteers that

5325
03:08:01,300 --> 03:08:04,603
were here today as a former

5326
03:08:05,160 --> 03:08:06,200
executive director of an

5327
03:08:06,200 --> 03:08:08,100
organization that could not

5328
03:08:08,100 --> 03:08:09,800
have survived without

5329
03:08:09,800 --> 03:08:12,800
volunteers and served on boards

5330
03:08:12,100 --> 03:08:13,100
with very similar

5331
03:08:13,100 --> 03:08:15,410
organizations. I'm curious

5332
03:08:16,900 --> 03:08:19,609
whether we're staffed for that

5333
03:08:20,130 --> 03:08:21,210
kind of management

5334
03:08:21,210 --> 03:08:23,100
of volunteers and I apologize I

5335
03:08:23,100 --> 03:08:26,130
didn't ask this question before

5336
03:08:26,130 --> 03:08:28,280
today but can you talk about

5337
03:08:28,280 --> 03:08:30,110
you know, how we do that

5338
03:08:30,110 --> 03:08:33,200
in-house in terms of, you know,

5339
03:08:33,200 --> 03:08:35,200
volunteers oftentimes, you

5340
03:08:35,700 --> 03:08:36,200
know, they want to be treated

5341
03:08:36,200 --> 03:08:38,260
like employees in many cases

5342
03:08:38,260 --> 03:08:40,426
they want responsibilities and

5343
03:08:41,600 --> 03:08:43,300
therefore they want input and

5344
03:08:43,300 --> 03:08:45,400
that requires, you know,

5345
03:08:45,400 --> 03:08:47,000
management of the volunteer

5346
03:08:47,000 --> 03:08:49,290
program. Do we have that set up

5347
03:08:49,290 --> 03:08:51,150
at the shelter today or is that

5348
03:08:51,150 --> 03:08:53,200
something you're consider green

5349
03:08:53,200 --> 03:08:56,602
>> at this time with the number

5350
03:08:58,200 --> 03:08:59,110
of volunteers we currently

5351
03:08:59,110 --> 03:09:02,800
have, we are staffed for that

5352
03:09:02,800 --> 03:09:04,408
capability. We are reallocating

5353
03:09:07,230 --> 03:09:09,230
volunteers to >> their

5354
03:09:10,500 --> 03:09:11,270
coordinators. For example, if

5355
03:09:11,270 --> 03:09:14,800
you're a dog volunteer once

5356
03:09:14,800 --> 03:09:16,180
you're onboarded with the

5357
03:09:16,180 --> 03:09:17,290
volunteer coordinator and that

5358
03:09:17,290 --> 03:09:19,900
handles the administration

5359
03:09:19,900 --> 03:09:20,270
of the volunteer program then

5360
03:09:20,270 --> 03:09:22,230
you go with the dog coordinator

5361
03:09:22,230 --> 03:09:23,270
team or you're with the dog

5362
03:09:23,270 --> 03:09:26,180
team. So we have reallocated

5363
03:09:26,180 --> 03:09:27,280
that resource so it just does

5364
03:09:27,280 --> 03:09:29,260
not fall under one individual

5365
03:09:29,260 --> 03:09:31,000
the volunteer coordinator and

5366
03:09:31,000 --> 03:09:33,100
the same goes for the cat team

5367
03:09:33,100 --> 03:09:35,210
or the smalls team and those

5368
03:09:35,210 --> 03:09:37,200
are the main three teams but

5369
03:09:37,200 --> 03:09:39,100
the other training teams again

5370
03:09:39,100 --> 03:09:40,210
they're with coordinators in

5371
03:09:40,210 --> 03:09:42,150
that unit in the shelter

5372
03:09:42,150 --> 03:09:44,200
operation so they can have more

5373
03:09:44,200 --> 03:09:46,400
support and work more

5374
03:09:46,400 --> 03:09:49,140
cohesively as a as a unit so

5375
03:09:49,140 --> 03:09:51,140
all dogs and cats have their

5376
03:09:51,140 --> 03:09:52,230
own volunteers and staff

5377
03:09:52,230 --> 03:09:54,190
members. So >>

5378
03:09:54,190 --> 03:09:55,300
councilmember ortiz, I don't

5379
03:09:55,300 --> 03:09:55,230
know if you were sort

5380
03:09:55,230 --> 03:09:58,700
of formally requesting them to

5381
03:09:58,700 --> 03:10:00,100
kind of report out to you on

5382
03:10:00,100 --> 03:10:03,200
the you know, the sort of the

5383
03:10:03,200 --> 03:10:05,000
advocacy group that you were

5384
03:10:05,000 --> 03:10:07,200
talking about. But if it if you

5385
03:10:07,200 --> 03:10:10,210
were us and and I'm not on the

5386
03:10:10,210 --> 03:10:14,230
committee see I'd like to sort

5387
03:10:14,230 --> 03:10:16,210
of hear the next step on the

5388
03:10:16,210 --> 03:10:18,150
volunteer piece. I just think

5389
03:10:18,150 --> 03:10:19,200
it's one of those things that

5390
03:10:19,200 --> 03:10:21,200
organizations overlook when

5391
03:10:23,800 --> 03:10:25,300
when staff is there voluntarily

5392
03:10:25,300 --> 03:10:27,160
I.e. Free sometimes we lose

5393
03:10:27,160 --> 03:10:28,250
sight of the fact that they

5394
03:10:28,250 --> 03:10:31,160
still need to be heard managed

5395
03:10:31,160 --> 03:10:34,290
and you know, rewarded for the

5396
03:10:34,290 --> 03:10:36,800
work they're doing and not all

5397
03:10:36,800 --> 03:10:38,900
volunteers are created equally.

5398
03:10:38,900 --> 03:10:39,150
most are not going to want to

5399
03:10:39,150 --> 03:10:41,700
be on an advocacy committee.

5400
03:10:41,700 --> 03:10:42,290
many people want to come walk a

5401
03:10:42,290 --> 03:10:45,170
dog you know, see other

5402
03:10:45,170 --> 03:10:47,400
advocates or excuse me other

5403
03:10:47,400 --> 03:10:49,220
volunteers and move on. But and

5404
03:10:49,220 --> 03:10:51,110
so for those I think we need to

5405
03:10:51,110 --> 03:10:52,230
make sure we've got the support

5406
03:10:52,230 --> 03:10:54,800
of that part of the system

5407
03:10:54,800 --> 03:10:56,250
down. So I'd be interested in

5408
03:10:56,250 --> 03:10:58,300
kind of hearing that next step.

5409
03:10:58,300 --> 03:10:59,000
if >> I could just add one

5410
03:10:59,000 --> 03:11:01,110
thing. One of the things that

5411
03:11:01,110 --> 03:11:03,700
made monica stand out in the

5412
03:11:03,700 --> 03:11:04,160
recruitment of her for this

5413
03:11:04,160 --> 03:11:07,200
role was her again not saying

5414
03:11:07,200 --> 03:11:08,200
exactly what happened in the

5415
03:11:08,200 --> 03:11:09,270
interview but it was just her

5416
03:11:09,270 --> 03:11:11,190
advocacy for the importance

5417
03:11:11,190 --> 03:11:13,260
of solving problems with staff

5418
03:11:13,260 --> 03:11:16,800
and volunteers. And so it was

5419
03:11:16,800 --> 03:11:17,120
really this that you have to

5420
03:11:17,120 --> 03:11:18,260
apply that volunteer muscle as

5421
03:11:18,260 --> 03:11:20,170
well as the staff also by

5422
03:11:20,170 --> 03:11:21,240
themselves ourselves

5423
03:11:21,240 --> 03:11:23,800
at shelters we cannot do it.

5424
03:11:23,800 --> 03:11:24,600
and so that's where that

5425
03:11:24,600 --> 03:11:26,250
advocacy for volunteer is being

5426
03:11:26,250 --> 03:11:28,200
a critical part of that is

5427
03:11:28,200 --> 03:11:29,110
right on point and right

5428
03:11:29,110 --> 03:11:31,170
at monica's ellie thanks >>

5429
03:11:31,170 --> 03:11:32,270
matt. I do want to just take a

5430
03:11:32,270 --> 03:11:36,180
moment and recognize x we had a

5431
03:11:36,180 --> 03:11:38,220
very difficult situation in our

5432
03:11:38,220 --> 03:11:41,220
district with a very difficult

5433
03:11:43,900 --> 03:11:45,800
owner of let's say a lot

5434
03:11:45,800 --> 03:11:47,250
of animals and you know, I

5435
03:11:47,250 --> 03:11:48,280
didn't really realize the

5436
03:11:48,280 --> 03:11:50,180
extent of the services and you

5437
03:11:50,180 --> 03:11:52,800
know the work you're doing out

5438
03:11:52,800 --> 03:11:53,120
of the shelter and I just want

5439
03:11:53,120 --> 03:11:55,100
to recognize the really good

5440
03:11:55,100 --> 03:11:57,120
work of asis in that regard. So

5441
03:11:57,120 --> 03:11:58,100
thank >> you. Yeah, I'd just

5442
03:11:58,100 --> 03:11:59,160
like to say that the work that

5443
03:11:59,160 --> 03:12:00,260
we have to do in the community

5444
03:12:00,260 --> 03:12:02,700
and the animal control piece

5445
03:12:02,700 --> 03:12:04,600
the public safety matters is

5446
03:12:04,600 --> 03:12:06,900
of extreme importance and with

5447
03:12:06,900 --> 03:12:07,190
our partners across the

5448
03:12:07,190 --> 03:12:09,260
organization and housing npr

5449
03:12:09,260 --> 03:12:12,100
west to both serve the people

5450
03:12:12,100 --> 03:12:13,280
who are unhoused or under

5451
03:12:13,280 --> 03:12:16,280
housed and their animals and

5452
03:12:16,290 --> 03:12:18,250
with pureness in their beautify

5453
03:12:18,250 --> 03:12:20,000
team when we have to do

5454
03:12:20,000 --> 03:12:21,000
abatements we all do these

5455
03:12:21,000 --> 03:12:23,100
things hand in glove and it

5456
03:12:23,100 --> 03:12:24,900
really is a critical part and

5457
03:12:24,900 --> 03:12:25,240
our field services are critical

5458
03:12:25,240 --> 03:12:27,200
to that public safety mix and

5459
03:12:27,200 --> 03:12:28,100
we appreciate the outlook for

5460
03:12:28,100 --> 03:12:30,410
that. >> thank you. Thanks

5461
03:12:32,500 --> 03:12:32,210
councilmember. Let's go to

5462
03:12:32,210 --> 03:12:35,100
councilor condo's thank you

5463
03:12:35,100 --> 03:12:36,240
mayor know my appreciation matt

5464
03:12:36,240 --> 03:12:38,200
and monica for your report as

5465
03:12:38,200 --> 03:12:39,230
well as other advocates who

5466
03:12:39,230 --> 03:12:41,250
came out to speak on this item.

5467
03:12:41,250 --> 03:12:42,230
you know, I know the mayor

5468
03:12:42,230 --> 03:12:44,180
already touched on the tnr

5469
03:12:44,180 --> 03:12:46,160
program but I did want to echo

5470
03:12:46,160 --> 03:12:49,300
that as as a member of a.c. You

5471
03:12:49,300 --> 03:12:50,200
know, I do look forward to

5472
03:12:50,200 --> 03:12:51,220
ensuring the ramp up numbers

5473
03:12:51,220 --> 03:12:53,200
and especially what we heard

5474
03:12:53,200 --> 03:12:54,250
from folks is we're not

5475
03:12:54,250 --> 03:12:56,280
utilizing all the slots that

5476
03:12:56,280 --> 03:12:58,280
that we that we can to make

5477
03:12:58,280 --> 03:12:59,280
sure that we're filling that

5478
03:12:59,280 --> 03:13:02,200
need in our community. So I'll

5479
03:13:02,200 --> 03:13:03,900
wait for that october report

5480
03:13:03,900 --> 03:13:06,100
and and make sure that we're

5481
03:13:06,100 --> 03:13:07,150
we're leaning in on that and

5482
03:13:07,150 --> 03:13:09,220
then you know, I also wanted to

5483
03:13:09,220 --> 03:13:11,260
bold and underline closing that

5484
03:13:11,260 --> 03:13:14,260
quote unquote trust gap between

5485
03:13:15,100 --> 03:13:17,250
as jay as jax and our advocacy

5486
03:13:17,250 --> 03:13:19,110
advocate and yes, it's going to

5487
03:13:19,110 --> 03:13:22,611
be >> going along with the nsc

5488
03:13:23,700 --> 03:13:25,130
report that was mentioned in

5489
03:13:25,130 --> 03:13:27,180
the audit in october but also

5490
03:13:27,180 --> 03:13:28,160
the relationships and

5491
03:13:28,160 --> 03:13:30,250
communication that goes beyond

5492
03:13:30,250 --> 03:13:32,180
just a verbal report

5493
03:13:32,180 --> 03:13:34,200
establishing what we did. You

5494
03:13:34,200 --> 03:13:35,170
know, some of the some of those

5495
03:13:35,170 --> 03:13:37,800
relationships extend beyond

5496
03:13:37,800 --> 03:13:38,110
just here's here's the bare

5497
03:13:38,110 --> 03:13:40,260
minimum. And I think, you know

5498
03:13:40,260 --> 03:13:43,400
I'm angel thank you deputy city

5499
03:13:43,400 --> 03:13:44,150
manager angel >> for for

5500
03:13:44,150 --> 03:13:46,700
touching on on that especially

5501
03:13:46,700 --> 03:13:47,120
the comments as it relates to

5502
03:13:47,120 --> 03:13:49,300
that pressure dynamic and

5503
03:13:49,300 --> 03:13:51,300
working with folks who you know

5504
03:13:51,300 --> 03:13:52,290
are passionate but you know are

5505
03:13:52,290 --> 03:13:54,290
critical and I think to

5506
03:13:54,290 --> 03:13:56,600
councilmember ortiz and

5507
03:13:56,600 --> 03:13:57,250
mulcahy's point I think that's

5508
03:13:57,250 --> 03:13:59,400
that's part of it and look

5509
03:13:59,400 --> 03:14:00,600
forward to keeping abreast

5510
03:14:00,600 --> 03:14:02,150
of that as well and I know the

5511
03:14:02,150 --> 03:14:04,400
animal control piece is

5512
03:14:04,400 --> 03:14:05,200
something that we've we've

5513
03:14:05,200 --> 03:14:08,000
heard and this this report

5514
03:14:08,000 --> 03:14:09,230
doesn't explicitly call that

5515
03:14:09,230 --> 03:14:11,500
out but we have I have heard

5516
03:14:11,500 --> 03:14:12,170
from from from residents on

5517
03:14:12,170 --> 03:14:14,170
that process and specifically

5518
03:14:14,170 --> 03:14:16,300
with the transparency piece on

5519
03:14:16,300 --> 03:14:17,800
when we have an incident with

5520
03:14:17,800 --> 03:14:18,000
animal control and the

5521
03:14:18,000 --> 03:14:19,240
communication with our

5522
03:14:19,240 --> 03:14:20,220
residents. But I'll wait for

5523
03:14:20,220 --> 03:14:23,000
that october report to to to

5524
03:14:23,000 --> 03:14:24,100
ask specific questions on that

5525
03:14:24,100 --> 03:14:25,170
because I wanted to get my keep

5526
03:14:25,170 --> 03:14:26,150
my comments more tailored to

5527
03:14:26,150 --> 03:14:27,270
the to the civil grand jury

5528
03:14:27,270 --> 03:14:29,427
report. Thank you. >> thanks,

5529
03:14:31,150 --> 03:14:32,800
councilmember. Last call for

5530
03:14:32,800 --> 03:14:33,160
colleagues who want to chime in

5531
03:14:33,160 --> 03:14:35,140
on this item. Okay. We have a

5532
03:14:35,140 --> 03:14:37,900
motion from councilor dwan I

5533
03:14:37,900 --> 03:14:40,609
believe toni let's vote. Are

5534
03:14:48,200 --> 03:14:48,270
you seeing anything on your

5535
03:14:48,270 --> 03:14:51,627
screens? Yes. Okay. And I see

5536
03:14:52,300 --> 03:14:54,130
unanimous 1104 okay. Yeah. It's

5537
03:14:54,130 --> 03:14:55,110
>> not working on my screen.

5538
03:14:55,110 --> 03:14:57,270
I'll refresh but >> I see an 11

5539
03:14:57,270 --> 03:14:59,150
a unanimous vote to adopt the

5540
03:14:59,150 --> 03:15:00,230
response to the civil grand

5541
03:15:00,230 --> 03:15:02,180
jury report. Thank you. >>

5542
03:15:02,180 --> 03:15:05,180
thanks. Okay. Thank you, matt.

5543
03:15:07,500 --> 03:15:11,500
monica so we're now on to item

5544
03:15:11,500 --> 03:15:13,500
10.2. This is the

5545
03:15:13,170 --> 03:15:14,240
administrative hearing on the

5546
03:15:14,240 --> 03:15:16,230
appeal of the environmental

5547
03:15:16,230 --> 03:15:17,260
determination and site

5548
03:15:17,260 --> 03:15:19,600
development permit for certain

5549
03:15:19,600 --> 03:15:21,150
real property located at 1295

5550
03:15:21,150 --> 03:15:23,000
kirchner avenue and we do have

5551
03:15:23,000 --> 03:15:25,170
a staff presentation so once

5552
03:15:25,170 --> 03:15:27,100
staff is ready you may proceed

5553
03:15:27,100 --> 03:15:30,100
. >> and a reminder for those

5554
03:15:31,240 --> 03:15:33,600
who wish to speak on the next

5555
03:15:33,600 --> 03:15:35,600
item comment cards can be

5556
03:15:35,600 --> 03:15:36,260
submitted at the top or bottom

5557
03:15:36,260 --> 03:15:38,160
of the stairs here and just

5558
03:15:38,160 --> 03:15:40,300
indicate your name and the item

5559
03:15:40,300 --> 03:15:41,700
you wish to speak on. Thank

5560
03:15:41,700 --> 03:15:43,407
you. >> hello. Good afternoon

5561
03:15:44,500 --> 03:15:45,170
again. We're back with the same

5562
03:15:45,170 --> 03:15:47,270
team to my right director chris

5563
03:15:47,270 --> 03:15:50,800
burden or pdc I'm gonna send

5564
03:15:50,800 --> 03:15:52,500
you deputy director of planning

5565
03:15:52,500 --> 03:15:53,180
and to my left to have david

5566
03:15:53,180 --> 03:15:55,500
keon, our principal planner

5567
03:15:55,500 --> 03:15:56,800
with the environmental review

5568
03:15:56,800 --> 03:15:58,400
team and john to division

5569
03:15:58,400 --> 03:15:59,150
manager over the development

5570
03:15:59,150 --> 03:16:01,210
services team. So the item

5571
03:16:01,210 --> 03:16:03,100
before you today is the

5572
03:16:03,100 --> 03:16:05,100
environmental and permit appeal

5573
03:16:05,100 --> 03:16:06,170
of the director's decision on

5574
03:16:06,170 --> 03:16:08,100
the site development permit and

5575
03:16:08,100 --> 03:16:10,140
infill exemption for a

5576
03:16:10,140 --> 03:16:12,140
residential project at 1295

5577
03:16:12,250 --> 03:16:15,625
cotner avenue. The site is a.65

5578
03:16:17,500 --> 03:16:19,150
gross acre site designated a

5579
03:16:19,150 --> 03:16:21,110
residential neighborhood in the

5580
03:16:21,110 --> 03:16:23,000
general plan and with the

5581
03:16:23,000 --> 03:16:24,800
zoning of single family

5582
03:16:24,800 --> 03:16:26,170
residence the project utilized

5583
03:16:26,170 --> 03:16:28,240
state density bonus law to

5584
03:16:28,240 --> 03:16:31,624
propose 12 units at the site by

5585
03:16:32,120 --> 03:16:33,270
demolishing an existing single

5586
03:16:33,270 --> 03:16:35,427
family home and removing 24

5587
03:16:36,160 --> 03:16:38,000
trees that are proposed to be

5588
03:16:38,000 --> 03:16:40,290
replaced. The site development

5589
03:16:40,290 --> 03:16:42,150
sorry the state density bonus

5590
03:16:42,150 --> 03:16:44,130
law application provides two

5591
03:16:44,130 --> 03:16:46,130
affordable units one at the

5592
03:16:46,130 --> 03:16:48,270
very low income which is 50 to

5593
03:16:48,270 --> 03:16:50,427
80% area median income levels

5594
03:16:51,160 --> 03:16:53,200
and then one at the moderate

5595
03:16:53,200 --> 03:16:54,270
income level which is 80 to

5596
03:16:54,270 --> 03:16:57,270
120% of the area median income.

5597
03:16:58,300 --> 03:16:59,170
the project also requests

5598
03:16:59,170 --> 03:17:01,100
avesta ing tentative map for a

5599
03:17:01,100 --> 03:17:03,280
subdivision of the one lot the

5600
03:17:03,280 --> 03:17:05,428
.65 acre lot into ten

5601
03:17:06,900 --> 03:17:08,260
residential lots and one common

5602
03:17:08,260 --> 03:17:10,230
area for a private street with

5603
03:17:10,230 --> 03:17:12,423
access to individual garages.

5604
03:17:15,120 --> 03:17:16,290
so the project was reviewed

5605
03:17:16,290 --> 03:17:18,230
reviewed for consistency with

5606
03:17:18,230 --> 03:17:20,100
the general plan does the

5607
03:17:20,100 --> 03:17:22,700
municipal code are citywide

5608
03:17:22,700 --> 03:17:23,700
designs standards and

5609
03:17:23,700 --> 03:17:25,130
guidelines our public outreach

5610
03:17:25,130 --> 03:17:27,800
policy the california

5611
03:17:27,800 --> 03:17:29,200
environmental quality act as

5612
03:17:29,200 --> 03:17:30,240
well as under a state density

5613
03:17:30,240 --> 03:17:32,424
bonus law. The environmental

5614
03:17:34,160 --> 03:17:36,290
review included a class 32

5615
03:17:36,290 --> 03:17:38,429
infill exemption in accordance

5616
03:17:39,200 --> 03:17:41,260
with the state california

5617
03:17:41,260 --> 03:17:43,170
environmental quality act

5618
03:17:43,170 --> 03:17:45,300
because the project was found

5619
03:17:45,300 --> 03:17:46,200
to be consistent with the

5620
03:17:46,200 --> 03:17:49,100
general plan and zoning and it

5621
03:17:49,100 --> 03:17:51,120
develops and urban in lot which

5622
03:17:51,120 --> 03:17:52,160
does not have any suitable

5623
03:17:52,160 --> 03:17:55,160
habitat nor does it generate

5624
03:17:56,150 --> 03:17:58,130
significant traffic noise

5625
03:17:58,130 --> 03:17:59,200
air quality or water quality

5626
03:17:59,200 --> 03:18:01,420
impacts. Existing utilities and

5627
03:18:02,180 --> 03:18:03,260
other public services are

5628
03:18:03,260 --> 03:18:06,600
available to serve the site and

5629
03:18:06,600 --> 03:18:07,140
no impacts to historic

5630
03:18:07,140 --> 03:18:09,800
resources were found. Nor was

5631
03:18:09,800 --> 03:18:11,700
the site identified as a

5632
03:18:11,700 --> 03:18:13,407
hazardous waste site. The

5633
03:18:14,130 --> 03:18:15,220
director's hearing occurred on

5634
03:18:15,220 --> 03:18:18,220
march 25th and several members

5635
03:18:19,400 --> 03:18:20,600
of the public spoke on this

5636
03:18:20,600 --> 03:18:22,800
item specifically there were

5637
03:18:22,800 --> 03:18:23,160
concerns around traffic and

5638
03:18:23,160 --> 03:18:25,416
safety especially during school

5639
03:18:26,100 --> 03:18:28,400
drop off and pickup times the

5640
03:18:28,400 --> 03:18:29,140
height of the project compared

5641
03:18:29,140 --> 03:18:31,000
to nearby residences,

5642
03:18:31,000 --> 03:18:32,280
construction noise and dust

5643
03:18:32,280 --> 03:18:34,210
waivers from existing city

5644
03:18:34,210 --> 03:18:36,280
standards in compatibility with

5645
03:18:36,280 --> 03:18:38,270
surrounding uses and potential

5646
03:18:38,270 --> 03:18:40,700
negative impacts on property

5647
03:18:40,700 --> 03:18:42,400
values. There was also one

5648
03:18:42,400 --> 03:18:44,180
supporter for the project who

5649
03:18:44,180 --> 03:18:46,100
noted that it would provide

5650
03:18:46,100 --> 03:18:47,100
housing opportunity in this

5651
03:18:47,100 --> 03:18:49,110
area. The hearing officer

5652
03:18:49,110 --> 03:18:50,220
approved the proposed site

5653
03:18:50,220 --> 03:18:51,250
development permit and the

5654
03:18:51,250 --> 03:18:53,100
infill exemption at that

5655
03:18:53,100 --> 03:18:55,800
hearing which was subsequently

5656
03:18:55,800 --> 03:18:57,190
appealed on march 29th and

5657
03:18:57,190 --> 03:19:00,120
april 13th. Since these appeals

5658
03:19:00,120 --> 03:19:02,000
included an appeal of the

5659
03:19:02,000 --> 03:19:03,230
environmental review, these are

5660
03:19:03,230 --> 03:19:05,000
being considered by the city

5661
03:19:05,000 --> 03:19:07,300
council de novo as in to

5662
03:19:07,300 --> 03:19:10,200
consider the whole action the

5663
03:19:10,200 --> 03:19:11,250
appeal for the site development

5664
03:19:11,250 --> 03:19:13,425
permit raised concerns or

5665
03:19:14,170 --> 03:19:16,180
stated that the application was

5666
03:19:16,180 --> 03:19:18,170
not compliant with the citywide

5667
03:19:18,170 --> 03:19:20,600
standards, did not address

5668
03:19:20,600 --> 03:19:22,406
traffic safety concerns. I

5669
03:19:23,110 --> 03:19:25,110
stated that it was inadequate

5670
03:19:25,110 --> 03:19:27,140
the meeting fire requirements

5671
03:19:27,140 --> 03:19:29,260
etc. And then the infill

5672
03:19:29,260 --> 03:19:32,800
exemption also said that the

5673
03:19:32,800 --> 03:19:34,300
infill exemption should not

5674
03:19:34,300 --> 03:19:35,200
have been used because

5675
03:19:35,200 --> 03:19:36,210
of unusual circumstances on the

5676
03:19:36,210 --> 03:19:38,250
site and for the failure to

5677
03:19:38,250 --> 03:19:40,140
adequately analyze construction

5678
03:19:40,140 --> 03:19:42,260
phase traffic impacts. There

5679
03:19:42,260 --> 03:19:44,100
were also additional public

5680
03:19:44,100 --> 03:19:45,140
health and safety concerns

5681
03:19:45,140 --> 03:19:48,614
cited in these appeals staff's

5682
03:19:50,160 --> 03:19:52,110
responses included in the memo

5683
03:19:52,110 --> 03:19:55,110
to council to these appeal

5684
03:19:55,160 --> 03:19:57,220
statements is to say that the

5685
03:19:57,220 --> 03:20:00,200
say density bonus law is what

5686
03:20:00,200 --> 03:20:03,140
allows for the waivers from the

5687
03:20:03,140 --> 03:20:05,170
standards that the city has

5688
03:20:05,170 --> 03:20:07,280
since the project is utilizing

5689
03:20:07,280 --> 03:20:09,100
the city density bonus law to

5690
03:20:09,100 --> 03:20:11,170
provide additional density. The

5691
03:20:11,170 --> 03:20:12,290
project as proposed would not

5692
03:20:12,290 --> 03:20:14,700
be able to build if all of the

5693
03:20:14,700 --> 03:20:16,200
city standards were applied.

5694
03:20:16,200 --> 03:20:17,260
therefore the city is required

5695
03:20:17,260 --> 03:20:19,130
to grant that waiver unless

5696
03:20:19,130 --> 03:20:20,190
there is a specific health and

5697
03:20:20,190 --> 03:20:22,400
safety impact associated with

5698
03:20:22,400 --> 03:20:24,130
that granting of that waiver.

5699
03:20:24,130 --> 03:20:25,160
the fire department was

5700
03:20:25,160 --> 03:20:27,180
consulted during the the review

5701
03:20:27,180 --> 03:20:30,290
of this project and the permit

5702
03:20:30,290 --> 03:20:33,500
was cleared by that department.

5703
03:20:33,500 --> 03:20:34,230
compliance with applicable fire

5704
03:20:34,230 --> 03:20:35,260
and building requirements will

5705
03:20:35,260 --> 03:20:37,200
also be verified during the

5706
03:20:37,200 --> 03:20:38,250
building stage there were no

5707
03:20:38,250 --> 03:20:40,120
quantifiable health or safety

5708
03:20:40,120 --> 03:20:42,800
risks that were identified

5709
03:20:42,800 --> 03:20:44,160
during the planning review.

5710
03:20:44,160 --> 03:20:45,280
public works and the department

5711
03:20:45,280 --> 03:20:47,120
of transportation also reviewed

5712
03:20:47,120 --> 03:20:48,270
the project for compliance with

5713
03:20:48,270 --> 03:20:50,240
our traffic standards and the

5714
03:20:50,240 --> 03:20:51,220
san jose's complete street

5715
03:20:51,220 --> 03:20:53,210
design standards and the

5716
03:20:53,210 --> 03:20:55,100
project did comply with those

5717
03:20:55,100 --> 03:20:57,100
requirements. An individual

5718
03:20:57,180 --> 03:20:59,700
site specific traffic impact

5719
03:20:59,700 --> 03:21:00,230
analysis was not required

5720
03:21:00,230 --> 03:21:02,100
because the project is below

5721
03:21:02,100 --> 03:21:03,240
the threshold so we typically

5722
03:21:03,240 --> 03:21:05,800
require those only if a project

5723
03:21:05,800 --> 03:21:07,130
is 25 units or more. Since this

5724
03:21:07,130 --> 03:21:09,700
project was only 12 units there

5725
03:21:09,700 --> 03:21:10,190
was no site specific

5726
03:21:10,190 --> 03:21:12,190
environmental review required.

5727
03:21:13,110 --> 03:21:16,110
the school proximity does not

5728
03:21:16,200 --> 03:21:18,170
particularly trigger additional

5729
03:21:18,170 --> 03:21:20,900
review of the site. That was

5730
03:21:20,900 --> 03:21:21,140
something that was cited. There

5731
03:21:21,140 --> 03:21:23,120
was some state government

5732
03:21:23,120 --> 03:21:24,110
code section cited in the

5733
03:21:24,110 --> 03:21:26,260
appeal those are but those are

5734
03:21:26,260 --> 03:21:28,150
applicable to schools sites not

5735
03:21:28,150 --> 03:21:29,220
to individual private

5736
03:21:29,220 --> 03:21:31,422
properties and then finally

5737
03:21:32,900 --> 03:21:34,600
staff did provide the directors

5738
03:21:34,600 --> 03:21:35,150
hearing recording which is

5739
03:21:35,150 --> 03:21:37,170
posted during the appeal period

5740
03:21:37,170 --> 03:21:38,260
and the project materials were

5741
03:21:38,260 --> 03:21:40,100
also made available to the

5742
03:21:40,100 --> 03:21:41,280
public before a city council

5743
03:21:41,280 --> 03:21:44,280
meeting. This the response to

5744
03:21:46,400 --> 03:21:47,290
the environmental appeal all

5745
03:21:47,290 --> 03:21:49,140
the staff feels that the

5746
03:21:49,140 --> 03:21:50,180
surrounding conditions and

5747
03:21:50,180 --> 03:21:52,800
existing traffic concerns are

5748
03:21:52,800 --> 03:21:54,600
not unusual circumstances. This

5749
03:21:54,600 --> 03:21:57,190
is an infill project on within

5750
03:21:57,190 --> 03:21:58,240
an urban neighborhood or a

5751
03:21:58,240 --> 03:22:00,240
suburban neighborhood. It does

5752
03:22:00,240 --> 03:22:02,180
not trigger any significant

5753
03:22:02,180 --> 03:22:04,400
environmental effects as noted

5754
03:22:04,400 --> 03:22:06,400
previously and construction

5755
03:22:06,600 --> 03:22:08,800
related traffic is not a secure

5756
03:22:08,800 --> 03:22:10,300
related transportation impact.

5757
03:22:10,300 --> 03:22:11,140
typically when there is a

5758
03:22:11,140 --> 03:22:13,100
construction our public works

5759
03:22:13,100 --> 03:22:14,100
department would required

5760
03:22:14,100 --> 03:22:16,800
construction management plans

5761
03:22:16,800 --> 03:22:17,120
that address construction

5762
03:22:17,120 --> 03:22:19,210
related to traffic issues and

5763
03:22:19,210 --> 03:22:21,400
then the project buy in and

5764
03:22:21,400 --> 03:22:21,240
of itself would not

5765
03:22:21,240 --> 03:22:23,600
substantially increase any

5766
03:22:23,600 --> 03:22:25,000
hazards and there are no

5767
03:22:25,000 --> 03:22:26,200
anticipated health and safety

5768
03:22:26,200 --> 03:22:27,290
impacts due to the project's

5769
03:22:27,290 --> 03:22:30,629
size or location since it is

5770
03:22:31,800 --> 03:22:32,260
therefore a staff recommends

5771
03:22:32,260 --> 03:22:33,290
that the council deny the

5772
03:22:33,290 --> 03:22:35,120
permit appeal and uphold the

5773
03:22:35,120 --> 03:22:37,000
director's decision to approve

5774
03:22:37,000 --> 03:22:38,200
the site development permit as

5775
03:22:38,200 --> 03:22:40,200
well as the infill exemption

5776
03:22:40,200 --> 03:22:41,230
for this project that concludes

5777
03:22:41,230 --> 03:22:42,280
staff's presentation and be

5778
03:22:42,280 --> 03:22:44,428
available for any questions.

5779
03:22:46,400 --> 03:22:46,270
all right. Thank you for the

5780
03:22:46,270 --> 03:22:48,427
presentation we have two

5781
03:22:49,290 --> 03:22:51,290
appellants who combined >>

5782
03:22:51,290 --> 03:22:53,500
we'll have five minutes and

5783
03:22:53,500 --> 03:22:54,120
then the applicant will also

5784
03:22:54,120 --> 03:22:56,500
have five minutes. So I'll

5785
03:22:56,500 --> 03:22:59,500
start with the two appellants

5786
03:22:59,220 --> 03:23:03,222
>> don't I don't know if

5787
03:23:05,130 --> 03:23:08,130
they're here. Are the

5788
03:23:08,250 --> 03:23:11,250
appellants here? Okay. We'll

5789
03:23:13,130 --> 03:23:15,210
just pause for a moment or

5790
03:23:15,210 --> 03:23:18,200
either of the appellants on

5791
03:23:18,200 --> 03:23:20,800
this >> project in the chamber

5792
03:23:20,800 --> 03:23:24,208
. Okay we can try one more time

5793
03:23:26,220 --> 03:23:28,130
after the applicant but the

5794
03:23:28,130 --> 03:23:29,250
applicant has up to five

5795
03:23:29,250 --> 03:23:31,250
minutes to speak >>

5796
03:23:42,230 --> 03:23:45,130
. Good evening. Thank you neera

5797
03:23:45,130 --> 03:23:47,300
and staff for the presentation

5798
03:23:47,300 --> 03:23:49,400
and thank you city council for

5799
03:23:49,400 --> 03:23:51,404
hearing this appeal today.

5800
03:23:52,100 --> 03:23:53,100
my name's cyrus and vice

5801
03:23:53,100 --> 03:23:54,180
present development for city

5802
03:23:54,180 --> 03:23:56,200
connect partners. We're

5803
03:23:56,200 --> 03:23:57,270
san jose based real estate

5804
03:23:57,270 --> 03:23:59,427
developers who are specifically

5805
03:24:00,190 --> 03:24:02,240
focused on missing middle

5806
03:24:02,240 --> 03:24:05,500
housing infill housing here in

5807
03:24:05,500 --> 03:24:07,300
the bay area and just bringing

5808
03:24:07,300 --> 03:24:08,170
access to for sale

5809
03:24:08,170 --> 03:24:10,170
homeownership opportunities.

5810
03:24:11,200 --> 03:24:13,130
this project at 1295 corner we

5811
03:24:13,130 --> 03:24:14,260
love it's across the street

5812
03:24:14,260 --> 03:24:16,426
from wattenberg park community

5813
03:24:17,260 --> 03:24:19,110
garden and the middle and high

5814
03:24:19,110 --> 03:24:21,130
school willow glen high schools

5815
03:24:21,130 --> 03:24:22,240
and we're using state and city

5816
03:24:22,240 --> 03:24:25,240
bronislaw as munir described to

5817
03:24:25,250 --> 03:24:28,120
build 12 townhomes two of which

5818
03:24:28,120 --> 03:24:30,900
will be below market rate and

5819
03:24:30,900 --> 03:24:31,120
we're parking this quite

5820
03:24:31,120 --> 03:24:33,230
generously right now 42 stores

5821
03:24:33,230 --> 03:24:34,270
so it's around three and a half

5822
03:24:34,270 --> 03:24:37,220
stalls per unit when as you

5823
03:24:37,220 --> 03:24:39,190
know san jose has a zero

5824
03:24:39,190 --> 03:24:42,190
parking requirement and using a

5825
03:24:42,290 --> 03:24:44,280
density bonus this could be 18

5826
03:24:44,280 --> 03:24:48,230
units using to use but we felt

5827
03:24:48,230 --> 03:24:50,140
we've found a nice sweet spot

5828
03:24:50,140 --> 03:24:52,200
that we think would complement

5829
03:24:52,200 --> 03:24:54,160
the neighborhood. As I

5830
03:24:54,160 --> 03:24:56,170
mentioned march 25th we

5831
03:24:56,170 --> 03:24:58,900
received this to appeals or

5832
03:24:58,900 --> 03:25:00,110
after the tentative map

5833
03:25:00,110 --> 03:25:02,400
approval and one of the

5834
03:25:02,400 --> 03:25:04,000
challenges that we're facing

5835
03:25:04,000 --> 03:25:05,180
especially in this housing

5836
03:25:05,180 --> 03:25:07,200
crisis that we all are dealing

5837
03:25:07,200 --> 03:25:09,160
with is we have these two

5838
03:25:09,160 --> 03:25:12,160
appeals that both each cost

5839
03:25:13,800 --> 03:25:15,408
$250 per appealing on the

5840
03:25:16,210 --> 03:25:18,200
developer side it costs us

5841
03:25:18,200 --> 03:25:21,200
$15,000 per appeal so that's

5842
03:25:22,400 --> 03:25:25,300
$30,000 and here we are august

5843
03:25:25,300 --> 03:25:27,230
18th to discuss this appeal

5844
03:25:27,230 --> 03:25:30,500
from march 25th. So that's five

5845
03:25:30,500 --> 03:25:32,000
months that we have just been

5846
03:25:32,000 --> 03:25:33,230
kind of waiting around here in

5847
03:25:33,230 --> 03:25:37,900
this window and I just if we're

5848
03:25:37,900 --> 03:25:39,210
to approach this together to

5849
03:25:39,210 --> 03:25:41,600
work with the city developers

5850
03:25:41,600 --> 03:25:43,230
to bring thoughtful infill

5851
03:25:43,230 --> 03:25:45,190
housing next to parks, next to

5852
03:25:45,190 --> 03:25:48,600
schools, next to transit or and

5853
03:25:48,600 --> 03:25:50,100
work where people want to raise

5854
03:25:50,100 --> 03:25:52,400
families, create access to

5855
03:25:52,400 --> 03:25:53,180
homeownership. This is

5856
03:25:53,180 --> 03:25:54,170
something that we need to

5857
03:25:54,170 --> 03:25:57,170
address so delays equal higher

5858
03:25:59,230 --> 03:26:01,280
costs to build homes equals

5859
03:26:01,280 --> 03:26:04,500
higher costs for these homes

5860
03:26:04,500 --> 03:26:05,250
and that's where we are as

5861
03:26:05,250 --> 03:26:06,170
you'll see in the next

5862
03:26:06,170 --> 03:26:09,170
amendment our next agenda item

5863
03:26:09,200 --> 03:26:12,150
even up zoning from r eight to

5864
03:26:12,150 --> 03:26:14,110
r 32 is being proposed with the

5865
03:26:14,110 --> 03:26:15,280
general plan amendment. That

5866
03:26:15,280 --> 03:26:17,220
would mean we could have 21

5867
03:26:17,220 --> 03:26:19,250
homes on this site. So we're

5868
03:26:19,250 --> 03:26:20,240
really excited about this

5869
03:26:20,240 --> 03:26:23,170
project. We hope your to keep

5870
03:26:23,170 --> 03:26:24,230
it going to keep it moving

5871
03:26:24,230 --> 03:26:27,600
forward. It's a shame that the

5872
03:26:27,600 --> 03:26:30,600
opponents you know $250 each to

5873
03:26:31,300 --> 03:26:33,200
produce document aren't even

5874
03:26:33,200 --> 03:26:35,140
here to appeal so it's been

5875
03:26:35,140 --> 03:26:36,170
five months where we've just

5876
03:26:36,170 --> 03:26:38,250
been in this space so thank you

5877
03:26:38,250 --> 03:26:40,240
again for your time and we

5878
03:26:40,240 --> 03:26:43,500
appreciate it. Thanks for your

5879
03:26:43,500 --> 03:26:45,150
time. The appellant is online.

5880
03:26:45,150 --> 03:26:47,800
okay let's go to >> the

5881
03:26:47,800 --> 03:26:48,230
appellant and again >> there's

5882
03:26:48,230 --> 03:26:49,210
a total of five minutes I

5883
03:26:49,210 --> 03:26:51,200
believe we have to have we

5884
03:26:51,200 --> 03:26:52,130
located the other or is it just

5885
03:26:52,130 --> 03:26:54,900
one? Well, the >> other two are

5886
03:26:54,900 --> 03:26:56,140
not online that I see. I only

5887
03:26:56,140 --> 03:26:59,000
have one christine >> one I

5888
03:26:59,000 --> 03:27:00,400
mean start the timer for five

5889
03:27:00,400 --> 03:27:03,400
minutes once again thank you

5890
03:27:04,120 --> 03:27:07,300
but hi can everyone hear me?

5891
03:27:07,300 --> 03:27:10,150
yes, yes. Hi. The crux of >>

5892
03:27:10,150 --> 03:27:12,415
my environmental appeal against

5893
03:27:13,220 --> 03:27:15,422
the 1295 quarter project has

5894
03:27:16,190 --> 03:27:18,419
been existing traffic problems

5895
03:27:19,110 --> 03:27:21,220
at this site. The project will

5896
03:27:21,220 --> 03:27:23,000
permanently worsen these

5897
03:27:23,000 --> 03:27:25,250
problems. I requested a formal

5898
03:27:25,250 --> 03:27:27,230
traffic review before

5899
03:27:27,230 --> 03:27:29,423
proceeding with the project

5900
03:27:30,100 --> 03:27:33,100
today right at the city council

5901
03:27:33,100 --> 03:27:35,800
meeting >> there was an active

5902
03:27:35,800 --> 03:27:37,250
police investigation at the end

5903
03:27:37,250 --> 03:27:40,230
of that intersection of the

5904
03:27:40,230 --> 03:27:42,423
development the entire corner

5905
03:27:43,210 --> 03:27:45,280
of kirchner and cordell was

5906
03:27:45,280 --> 03:27:48,400
blocked off by police and

5907
03:27:48,400 --> 03:27:50,260
helicopters were overhead. Two

5908
03:27:50,260 --> 03:27:53,400
men were stabbed and went to

5909
03:27:53,400 --> 03:27:56,800
hospitals in what nbc and many

5910
03:27:56,800 --> 03:27:57,190
other outlets including mercury

5911
03:27:57,190 --> 03:28:01,219
news say was road rage. Today's

5912
03:28:02,000 --> 03:28:04,900
road rage incident leading to

5913
03:28:04,900 --> 03:28:07,300
two stabbings is the exact

5914
03:28:07,300 --> 03:28:09,300
intersection where neighbors

5915
03:28:09,500 --> 03:28:11,600
have pleaded for a traffic

5916
03:28:11,600 --> 03:28:13,406
study before proceeding. There

5917
03:28:14,160 --> 03:28:16,110
should not be a vote until the

5918
03:28:16,110 --> 03:28:18,700
evidence is clarified as to

5919
03:28:18,700 --> 03:28:20,500
what happened at this road rage

5920
03:28:20,500 --> 03:28:22,200
incident. This road rage

5921
03:28:22,200 --> 03:28:24,200
incident involving >> stabbings

5922
03:28:24,200 --> 03:28:25,100
not matter because there are

5923
03:28:25,100 --> 03:28:27,270
less than 25 units. Are there

5924
03:28:27,270 --> 03:28:29,427
two child injuries >> within

5925
03:28:30,180 --> 03:28:32,418
six months unimportant because

5926
03:28:33,230 --> 03:28:34,230
there are less than 20 >> five

5927
03:28:34,230 --> 03:28:36,150
units. You don't >> have to do

5928
03:28:36,150 --> 03:28:39,120
a traffic study but you should

5929
03:28:39,120 --> 03:28:40,220
your close your eyes and you've

5930
03:28:40,220 --> 03:28:43,210
never answered to explain all

5931
03:28:43,210 --> 03:28:46,900
the child injuries or the >> or

5932
03:28:46,900 --> 03:28:48,240
even this and then you continue

5933
03:28:48,240 --> 03:28:50,700
to proceed saying there is no

5934
03:28:50,700 --> 03:28:52,220
unusual traffic, there is no

5935
03:28:52,220 --> 03:28:54,120
unusual there is this isn't

5936
03:28:54,120 --> 03:28:57,200
corner according to you is not

5937
03:28:57,200 --> 03:29:00,620
a major street. It's insane.

5938
03:29:05,260 --> 03:29:09,290
are you done? I'm done. Okay.

5939
03:29:09,290 --> 03:29:12,629
thank you. All right. Do we

5940
03:29:13,170 --> 03:29:16,617
have the thank you. There was

5941
03:29:18,230 --> 03:29:20,100
still time on the timer. Did

5942
03:29:20,100 --> 03:29:21,240
you find the other appellant? I

5943
03:29:21,240 --> 03:29:23,180
don't see their hands on line.

5944
03:29:23,180 --> 03:29:25,250
I don't wait, there is a

5945
03:29:25,250 --> 03:29:26,220
jenny I'm going to allow her to

5946
03:29:26,220 --> 03:29:28,210
talk and see if that's jennifer

5947
03:29:28,210 --> 03:29:29,220
can wait. Her hand just went

5948
03:29:29,220 --> 03:29:31,500
up. >> can we confirm that that

5949
03:29:31,500 --> 03:29:34,160
is yeah. Yeah. >> hi. Hi yes I

5950
03:29:34,160 --> 03:29:36,100
am the other appellant yes. I

5951
03:29:36,100 --> 03:29:38,800
echo all of christine's points

5952
03:29:38,800 --> 03:29:39,180
and we've been saying the same

5953
03:29:39,180 --> 03:29:42,600
thing the whole time that

5954
03:29:42,600 --> 03:29:43,900
although there is no

5955
03:29:43,900 --> 03:29:45,110
requirement >> to do a safety

5956
03:29:45,110 --> 03:29:47,800
study at 12 units that this

5957
03:29:47,800 --> 03:29:50,000
does seem to be an exception on

5958
03:29:50,000 --> 03:29:51,400
>> the reports have said that

5959
03:29:51,400 --> 03:29:53,500
this is considered a minor

5960
03:29:53,500 --> 03:29:54,260
street. Both carter kirchner

5961
03:29:54,260 --> 03:29:56,290
and cordoba. But we would argue

5962
03:29:56,290 --> 03:29:58,429
at this particular intersection

5963
03:29:59,800 --> 03:30:01,400
that it is a major thoroughfare

5964
03:30:01,400 --> 03:30:03,210
and every single person that

5965
03:30:03,210 --> 03:30:05,240
lives here understands that. So

5966
03:30:05,240 --> 03:30:08,900
we are highly concerned about

5967
03:30:08,900 --> 03:30:10,180
it getting passed without a

5968
03:30:10,180 --> 03:30:12,100
safety study and that's what

5969
03:30:12,100 --> 03:30:13,110
we're asking for. We're not

5970
03:30:13,110 --> 03:30:15,000
saying completely stop this.

5971
03:30:15,000 --> 03:30:17,500
we're saying please take a

5972
03:30:17,500 --> 03:30:19,220
moment. So many of our children

5973
03:30:19,220 --> 03:30:21,600
go here. We have seen so many

5974
03:30:21,600 --> 03:30:23,800
accidents. We live right here.

5975
03:30:23,800 --> 03:30:24,170
we are the first people on

5976
03:30:24,170 --> 03:30:26,900
response when these things

5977
03:30:26,900 --> 03:30:28,400
happen, please make sure it is

5978
03:30:28,400 --> 03:30:31,604
safe. Thank you. Thank that I

5979
03:30:35,190 --> 03:30:37,230
do. Okay let's proceed with

5980
03:30:37,230 --> 03:30:39,130
public comment on this item.

5981
03:30:39,130 --> 03:30:41,140
okay. Let me go through

5982
03:30:41,140 --> 03:30:44,180
my script again. I'm not going

5983
03:30:44,180 --> 03:30:45,240
to because I accidentally

5984
03:30:45,240 --> 03:30:46,270
closed it and you guys heard

5985
03:30:46,270 --> 03:30:48,290
the speech many times. You know

5986
03:30:48,290 --> 03:30:50,210
we're going to call names come

5987
03:30:50,210 --> 03:30:51,220
down to the microphone first

5988
03:30:51,220 --> 03:30:53,120
one >> to speak. Please be

5989
03:30:53,120 --> 03:30:55,000
respectful and speak on the

5990
03:30:55,000 --> 03:30:57,180
topic. I have cleo sandra

5991
03:30:57,180 --> 03:31:01,218
delvin no name it just as local

5992
03:31:02,170 --> 03:31:04,170
subcontractor roberta moore,

5993
03:31:06,120 --> 03:31:09,170
cyrus and alice come on down

5994
03:31:09,170 --> 03:31:11,600
and then I'll go to the zoom

5995
03:31:11,600 --> 03:31:13,300
commenters after these in

5996
03:31:13,300 --> 03:31:15,270
person speakers. Thank you. And

5997
03:31:15,270 --> 03:31:17,130
just a reminder comments tend

5998
03:31:17,130 --> 03:31:20,130
to be specifically on item 10.2

5999
03:31:20,190 --> 03:31:22,400
which is the property located

6000
03:31:22,400 --> 03:31:23,290
at 1295 corner and then in the

6001
03:31:23,290 --> 03:31:25,300
next item we'll get to the

6002
03:31:25,300 --> 03:31:27,200
broader general plan issues.

6003
03:31:27,200 --> 03:31:30,602
yes thank you. Well >> that is

6004
03:31:34,800 --> 03:31:35,270
a lot of trees that I saw in

6005
03:31:35,270 --> 03:31:38,000
the application be removed and

6006
03:31:38,000 --> 03:31:39,200
last week or so you talked

6007
03:31:39,200 --> 03:31:42,150
about tree canopy. This project

6008
03:31:42,150 --> 03:31:43,270
is before you because of the

6009
03:31:43,270 --> 03:31:45,190
actions of the developer has

6010
03:31:45,190 --> 03:31:47,140
requested as well as a

6011
03:31:47,140 --> 03:31:49,140
discretionary review process.

6012
03:31:50,900 --> 03:31:52,000
this process allows the public

6013
03:31:52,000 --> 03:31:53,270
opportunities to comment and

6014
03:31:53,270 --> 03:31:55,210
receive notifications of things

6015
03:31:55,210 --> 03:31:58,400
that will impact them. There

6016
03:31:58,400 --> 03:32:00,300
there's a lot of mature trees

6017
03:32:00,300 --> 03:32:01,240
and they're losing them.

6018
03:32:01,240 --> 03:32:03,424
communities work better when

6019
03:32:04,120 --> 03:32:05,150
residents are provided

6020
03:32:05,150 --> 03:32:07,150
opportunities to be heard and

6021
03:32:07,150 --> 03:32:09,000
have input on the projects that

6022
03:32:09,000 --> 03:32:11,150
impact them every day or will

6023
03:32:11,150 --> 03:32:13,200
in the future. I hope that you

6024
03:32:13,200 --> 03:32:16,500
will still continue to have

6025
03:32:16,500 --> 03:32:18,600
community input on projects in

6026
03:32:18,600 --> 03:32:20,500
this city going forward. Thank

6027
03:32:20,500 --> 03:32:22,220
you. Thank you. Your next

6028
03:32:22,220 --> 03:32:25,622
speaker well >> I'm going to

6029
03:32:29,160 --> 03:32:32,230
shock the out of you. These are

6030
03:32:32,230 --> 03:32:35,623
the kind of projects that work

6031
03:32:37,300 --> 03:32:38,200
parking. Thank you. I was going

6032
03:32:38,200 --> 03:32:41,200
to comment all about parking

6033
03:32:42,700 --> 03:32:45,600
and I want to say that I

6034
03:32:45,600 --> 03:32:46,280
appreciate you having a public

6035
03:32:46,280 --> 03:32:48,428
hearing. If 10.3 passes this

6036
03:32:50,110 --> 03:32:52,180
will be eliminated. I want

6037
03:32:52,180 --> 03:32:55,180
everyone to understand and that

6038
03:32:56,180 --> 03:33:00,140
I do hope that you study and

6039
03:33:00,140 --> 03:33:03,300
fix the traffic safety issue

6040
03:33:03,300 --> 03:33:05,300
and you have the developer

6041
03:33:05,300 --> 03:33:07,000
incorporate that in the cost

6042
03:33:07,000 --> 03:33:10,160
of sale and kudos for building

6043
03:33:10,160 --> 03:33:12,140
housing for homeownership.

6044
03:33:12,140 --> 03:33:15,140
thank you. Thank you. Next

6045
03:33:16,500 --> 03:33:20,205
speaker hi, I'm alice. I was

6046
03:33:21,600 --> 03:33:22,290
shock I actually pulled up

6047
03:33:22,290 --> 03:33:24,150
google just to look look

6048
03:33:24,150 --> 03:33:26,180
at what it is. It's all in a

6049
03:33:26,180 --> 03:33:28,100
single neighbor single family

6050
03:33:28,100 --> 03:33:30,160
neighborhood. Okay. Do you live

6051
03:33:30,160 --> 03:33:32,500
>> right next to a 12 unit

6052
03:33:32,500 --> 03:33:35,500
apartment? Do you most people

6053
03:33:35,800 --> 03:33:37,300
don't they don't expect you to

6054
03:33:37,300 --> 03:33:39,200
be doing this. So >> I'm

6055
03:33:39,200 --> 03:33:40,250
looking at it. Okay. So what's

6056
03:33:40,250 --> 03:33:43,140
a benefit to two affordable

6057
03:33:43,140 --> 03:33:45,600
housing? One is a moderate

6058
03:33:45,600 --> 03:33:46,280
income. What are you are trying

6059
03:33:46,280 --> 03:33:49,130
to achieve? Okay, this is just

6060
03:33:49,130 --> 03:33:51,200
a developer stream and and

6061
03:33:51,200 --> 03:33:53,220
aiming to destroy a single

6062
03:33:53,220 --> 03:33:55,422
family neighborhood. How could

6063
03:33:56,100 --> 03:33:57,150
you be allowing this kind

6064
03:33:57,150 --> 03:34:00,100
of stuff to happen to san jose

6065
03:34:00,100 --> 03:34:03,800
that is just not okay. Okay so

6066
03:34:03,800 --> 03:34:05,170
I need >> you to go back to the

6067
03:34:05,170 --> 03:34:08,140
drawing board to consider what

6068
03:34:08,140 --> 03:34:10,300
a single family housing

6069
03:34:10,300 --> 03:34:12,210
neighborhood looks like. We're

6070
03:34:12,210 --> 03:34:14,100
you know, we have plenty

6071
03:34:14,100 --> 03:34:16,300
of space if you want a higher

6072
03:34:16,300 --> 03:34:18,110
density housing you can >>

6073
03:34:18,110 --> 03:34:21,110
go somewhere else. Thank you.

6074
03:34:21,220 --> 03:34:24,622
next speaker >> hi, my name is

6075
03:34:30,160 --> 03:34:33,170
ron stern and I live 1275 or

6076
03:34:33,170 --> 03:34:35,200
so. I shower a 100 foot fence

6077
03:34:35,200 --> 03:34:37,300
with this guy and I'm telling

6078
03:34:37,300 --> 03:34:39,800
you there's beautiful 100 year

6079
03:34:39,800 --> 03:34:40,280
old trees on the property. So

6080
03:34:40,280 --> 03:34:42,110
we're going to try to squeeze

6081
03:34:42,110 --> 03:34:44,000
so much stuff in such a little

6082
03:34:44,000 --> 03:34:45,260
spot. The traffic I don't know

6083
03:34:45,260 --> 03:34:46,260
if any of you ever been down

6084
03:34:46,260 --> 03:34:48,120
kirton around or cornell avenue

6085
03:34:48,120 --> 03:34:50,160
during school you cannot move

6086
03:34:50,160 --> 03:34:53,000
from kerner all the way to >>

6087
03:34:53,000 --> 03:34:54,210
pine avenue. It's just a solid

6088
03:34:54,210 --> 03:34:56,800
wall now they're talking about

6089
03:34:56,800 --> 03:34:58,800
30, 40, 50, 60 cars. They're

6090
03:34:58,200 --> 03:35:00,700
talking about more people.

6091
03:35:00,700 --> 03:35:01,200
they're talking about more

6092
03:35:01,200 --> 03:35:03,200
congestion. I can't even back

6093
03:35:03,200 --> 03:35:04,190
my car on to kirton or any more

6094
03:35:04,190 --> 03:35:06,800
because of all the problems and

6095
03:35:06,800 --> 03:35:07,250
I just find that nobody >>

6096
03:35:07,250 --> 03:35:09,270
cares. Nobody you guys work for

6097
03:35:09,270 --> 03:35:11,500
us. We don't work for you. We

6098
03:35:11,500 --> 03:35:12,170
don't want this development in

6099
03:35:12,170 --> 03:35:14,000
our neighborhood. This is a

6100
03:35:14,000 --> 03:35:16,300
single family. It's been that

6101
03:35:16,300 --> 03:35:17,400
way for a long time. I'm

6102
03:35:17,400 --> 03:35:18,130
retired. I don't want to listen

6103
03:35:18,130 --> 03:35:20,210
to building over the next 18

6104
03:35:20,210 --> 03:35:21,290
months day and night I'm going

6105
03:35:21,290 --> 03:35:23,110
to have to listen to saws

6106
03:35:23,110 --> 03:35:25,110
sanding cars, trucks,

6107
03:35:25,120 --> 03:35:27,270
everything and I my enjoyment

6108
03:35:27,270 --> 03:35:29,210
and my property will be gone.

6109
03:35:29,210 --> 03:35:31,210
and this is a 30 foot building

6110
03:35:31,210 --> 03:35:33,210
right >> next to my fence 30ft

6111
03:35:33,210 --> 03:35:36,800
. Thank you. That's your time.

6112
03:35:36,800 --> 03:35:39,800
next speaker >> you okay? So

6113
03:35:41,140 --> 03:35:42,200
I'm going to go to online I

6114
03:35:42,200 --> 03:35:45,100
have been carter followed by

6115
03:35:45,100 --> 03:35:48,601
brian van carter you're unmuted

6116
03:35:52,700 --> 03:35:55,607
but we're not hearing you.

6117
03:35:58,240 --> 03:35:59,230
okay. I'm going to move on to

6118
03:35:59,230 --> 03:36:02,230
brian followed by gorman. Simon

6119
03:36:04,260 --> 03:36:05,270
>> says to you but I'll keep it

6120
03:36:05,270 --> 03:36:08,250
under one minute. I want to

6121
03:36:08,250 --> 03:36:10,700
make sure that the people

6122
03:36:10,700 --> 03:36:11,130
listen to what these people are

6123
03:36:11,130 --> 03:36:13,150
saying. The owner has a right

6124
03:36:13,150 --> 03:36:14,210
and we do need more housing but

6125
03:36:14,210 --> 03:36:15,290
there's the infrastructure that

6126
03:36:15,290 --> 03:36:17,260
you there's the infrastructure

6127
03:36:17,260 --> 03:36:21,226
issue there. The there's a and

6128
03:36:22,120 --> 03:36:24,100
the traffic studies that should

6129
03:36:24,100 --> 03:36:26,700
be done and I have driven out

6130
03:36:26,700 --> 03:36:28,600
there and I walk over there it

6131
03:36:28,600 --> 03:36:29,900
is a very dangerous

6132
03:36:29,900 --> 03:36:32,609
intersection. And so I mean you

6133
03:36:33,150 --> 03:36:34,240
can't really do anything about

6134
03:36:34,240 --> 03:36:35,230
it because of what the state

6135
03:36:35,230 --> 03:36:39,150
did and the train it can talk

6136
03:36:39,150 --> 03:36:42,100
to the state is beyond futile.

6137
03:36:42,100 --> 03:36:45,601
so okay. Thank you. Hold on.

6138
03:36:48,200 --> 03:36:51,200
gorman followed by blair hello.

6139
03:36:55,250 --> 03:36:58,110
go ahead. Okay. Good afternoon,

6140
03:36:58,110 --> 03:36:59,260
council members. I'm here today

6141
03:36:59,260 --> 03:37:01,300
to oppose the development

6142
03:37:01,300 --> 03:37:03,290
at 1295 new avenue. This is not

6143
03:37:03,290 --> 03:37:05,160
simply about adding housing.

6144
03:37:05,160 --> 03:37:07,500
it's about making sure that any

6145
03:37:07,500 --> 03:37:08,120
development this size is

6146
03:37:08,120 --> 03:37:09,260
appropriate for the location

6147
03:37:09,260 --> 03:37:11,140
and the concerns of the people

6148
03:37:11,140 --> 03:37:12,180
who actually live here. I

6149
03:37:12,180 --> 03:37:14,150
genuinely heard kerner avenue

6150
03:37:14,150 --> 03:37:15,230
was identified as part of the

6151
03:37:15,230 --> 03:37:17,100
city's vision zero five year

6152
03:37:17,100 --> 03:37:19,300
plan which recognizes the need

6153
03:37:19,300 --> 03:37:20,270
to address dangerous weeds and

6154
03:37:20,270 --> 03:37:22,427
prevent serious injuries and

6155
03:37:23,000 --> 03:37:25,300
fatalities. Today we have an

6156
03:37:25,300 --> 03:37:26,120
urgent reminder of why this

6157
03:37:26,120 --> 03:37:28,000
matter. As you mentioned

6158
03:37:28,000 --> 03:37:29,150
earlier, a stabbing occurred on

6159
03:37:29,150 --> 03:37:30,110
the corner of kirton and

6160
03:37:30,110 --> 03:37:31,280
connell following what has been

6161
03:37:31,280 --> 03:37:33,800
reported as a road rage

6162
03:37:33,800 --> 03:37:35,300
incident. I'm not suggesting

6163
03:37:35,300 --> 03:37:36,500
that this development caused

6164
03:37:36,500 --> 03:37:37,500
that incident but it

6165
03:37:37,500 --> 03:37:38,160
underscores the real safety

6166
03:37:38,160 --> 03:37:40,200
concerns surrounding traffic

6167
03:37:40,200 --> 03:37:41,190
conditions and conflict in this

6168
03:37:41,190 --> 03:37:44,900
area. It is a major thruway to

6169
03:37:44,900 --> 03:37:46,409
freeway 87 and to 88 gold

6170
03:37:47,600 --> 03:37:49,110
within one mile. And even if

6171
03:37:49,110 --> 03:37:50,230
it's not required, do the right

6172
03:37:50,230 --> 03:37:51,220
thing. Listen to your

6173
03:37:51,220 --> 03:37:54,220
constituents and request for a

6174
03:37:55,400 --> 03:37:57,400
traffic study. >> blair

6175
03:37:57,200 --> 03:38:00,200
followed by toni >> by >> blair

6176
03:38:01,290 --> 03:38:03,240
bateman. Nice to hear public

6177
03:38:03,240 --> 03:38:06,230
comment on this item. It's >>

6178
03:38:06,230 --> 03:38:09,140
an old issue good luck and a

6179
03:38:09,140 --> 03:38:11,180
community process working to

6180
03:38:11,180 --> 03:38:13,140
solve this issue. I'm really

6181
03:38:13,140 --> 03:38:15,600
going to respect that if

6182
03:38:15,600 --> 03:38:16,210
there's 100 year old trees

6183
03:38:16,210 --> 03:38:17,260
there and it sounds like a

6184
03:38:17,260 --> 03:38:19,130
number of them that has a

6185
03:38:19,130 --> 03:38:22,700
certain precedence I think tree

6186
03:38:22,700 --> 03:38:23,900
canopies have a certain

6187
03:38:23,900 --> 03:38:25,110
precedence. Good luck in

6188
03:38:25,110 --> 03:38:26,250
wanting to develop low and

6189
03:38:26,250 --> 03:38:29,180
moderate income housing also. I

6190
03:38:29,180 --> 03:38:30,220
hope we can be doing those

6191
03:38:30,220 --> 03:38:33,800
things. It was stated that the

6192
03:38:33,800 --> 03:38:35,200
land >> in this area is pretty

6193
03:38:35,200 --> 03:38:38,100
clean and pretty clear. No

6194
03:38:38,100 --> 03:38:40,100
environmental hazards. Serious.

6195
03:38:41,700 --> 03:38:42,240
good luck if extra tests are

6196
03:38:42,240 --> 03:38:44,424
needed. Our extra environmental

6197
03:38:45,150 --> 03:38:47,200
tests are currently needed for

6198
03:38:47,200 --> 03:38:49,402
the item of 10.1650 harry

6199
03:38:50,600 --> 03:38:52,200
drive. Item I just thought I'd

6200
03:38:52,200 --> 03:38:54,270
ask that. Thank you. >> thank

6201
03:38:54,270 --> 03:38:57,270
you toni followed by venkata.

6202
03:39:03,600 --> 03:39:06,600
hear me? Yes. Okay. Right.

6203
03:39:08,400 --> 03:39:10,250
well, thank you for listening

6204
03:39:10,250 --> 03:39:14,130
to us or to me for today. I

6205
03:39:14,130 --> 03:39:16,250
oppose this tremendously. You

6206
03:39:16,250 --> 03:39:18,800
can do a traffic thing but even

6207
03:39:18,800 --> 03:39:19,160
with the traffic thing I think

6208
03:39:19,160 --> 03:39:20,260
it's a poor decision if you

6209
03:39:20,260 --> 03:39:22,190
want to put a couple units like

6210
03:39:22,190 --> 03:39:25,230
four possibly that are lower no

6211
03:39:25,230 --> 03:39:27,700
more than two stories I could

6212
03:39:27,700 --> 03:39:29,400
understand that. But to put as

6213
03:39:29,400 --> 03:39:30,270
many homes as you're doing and

6214
03:39:30,270 --> 03:39:33,140
if the next thing is passed

6215
03:39:33,140 --> 03:39:34,220
it'll be even worse because

6216
03:39:34,220 --> 03:39:35,240
you'll try to put more in

6217
03:39:35,240 --> 03:39:38,400
there. There is a school there

6218
03:39:38,400 --> 03:39:40,240
and trust me I drive down. I do

6219
03:39:40,240 --> 03:39:42,220
not even go near curtin or in

6220
03:39:42,220 --> 03:39:44,230
carmel during school time. This

6221
03:39:44,230 --> 03:39:46,240
is could be a terrible terrible

6222
03:39:46,240 --> 03:39:48,270
mistake of putting this live in

6223
03:39:48,270 --> 03:39:51,270
the school >> for them. Thank

6224
03:39:52,250 --> 03:39:55,250
you laura >> followed by renee.

6225
03:40:03,170 --> 03:40:06,100
laura, you're unmuted. Can you

6226
03:40:06,100 --> 03:40:09,140
hear me? Yes. Okay. I was born

6227
03:40:09,140 --> 03:40:10,280
>> and raised in san jose and I

6228
03:40:10,280 --> 03:40:12,600
have lived two streets away

6229
03:40:12,600 --> 03:40:13,190
from the property in question

6230
03:40:13,190 --> 03:40:15,140
for 28 years. I am very

6231
03:40:15,140 --> 03:40:17,400
concerned about the parking for

6232
03:40:17,400 --> 03:40:18,210
the proposed condominium units

6233
03:40:18,210 --> 03:40:20,180
>> many families bring with

6234
03:40:20,180 --> 03:40:22,110
them at least two vehicles and

6235
03:40:22,110 --> 03:40:24,140
sometimes many more. If the

6236
03:40:24,140 --> 03:40:25,260
number of owned vehicles

6237
03:40:25,260 --> 03:40:26,240
exceeds >> the number

6238
03:40:26,240 --> 03:40:28,000
of parking spaces on the

6239
03:40:28,000 --> 03:40:29,230
proposed property, cars will

6240
03:40:29,230 --> 03:40:31,160
overflow into the street.

6241
03:40:31,160 --> 03:40:33,150
currently there is a preschool,

6242
03:40:33,150 --> 03:40:35,100
a middle school and a high

6243
03:40:35,100 --> 03:40:37,300
school all located on carroll

6244
03:40:37,300 --> 03:40:38,160
avenue between the subject

6245
03:40:38,160 --> 03:40:40,210
property and dry creek road.

6246
03:40:40,210 --> 03:40:42,220
all three of those schools are

6247
03:40:42,220 --> 03:40:45,150
only in one quarter of a mile.

6248
03:40:45,150 --> 03:40:46,290
there are hundreds and hundreds

6249
03:40:46,290 --> 03:40:47,260
of students >> attending these

6250
03:40:47,260 --> 03:40:49,110
schools. Last year alone

6251
03:40:49,110 --> 03:40:50,180
several students were injured

6252
03:40:50,180 --> 03:40:52,120
during pick up and drop off due

6253
03:40:52,120 --> 03:40:53,290
to extreme traffic congestion.

6254
03:40:53,290 --> 03:40:55,210
on the addition of more parked

6255
03:40:55,210 --> 03:40:57,600
cars will only exacerbate this

6256
03:40:57,600 --> 03:40:59,800
problem. As a homeowner I have

6257
03:40:59,800 --> 03:41:00,140
witnessed >> many many more

6258
03:41:00,140 --> 03:41:02,414
near-misses every day. The

6259
03:41:03,900 --> 03:41:05,000
addition of added cars due to

6260
03:41:05,000 --> 03:41:06,110
inadequate parking >> will pose

6261
03:41:06,110 --> 03:41:09,110
significant risk. Renee I can

6262
03:41:13,190 --> 03:41:16,140
hear me. Yes. These type of >>

6263
03:41:16,140 --> 03:41:17,800
projects in the middle

6264
03:41:17,800 --> 03:41:18,300
of existing neighborhoods

6265
03:41:18,300 --> 03:41:19,200
should not be allowed. 12 units

6266
03:41:19,200 --> 03:41:21,700
on residential parcel is a lot

6267
03:41:21,700 --> 03:41:22,250
of additional people in cars.

6268
03:41:22,250 --> 03:41:24,160
14 waivers to get this through.

6269
03:41:24,160 --> 03:41:26,500
that's a lot of waivers. The

6270
03:41:26,500 --> 03:41:27,600
applicant said that real estate

6271
03:41:27,600 --> 03:41:28,190
developers trying to solve the

6272
03:41:28,190 --> 03:41:30,100
housing crisis. Unfortunately

6273
03:41:30,100 --> 03:41:31,140
the housing crisis continues to

6274
03:41:31,140 --> 03:41:33,700
get worse because of real

6275
03:41:33,700 --> 03:41:34,260
estate developers by

6276
03:41:34,260 --> 03:41:36,300
redeveloping single family

6277
03:41:36,300 --> 03:41:38,800
homes into multi units or multi

6278
03:41:38,800 --> 03:41:39,230
homes. It just makes the

6279
03:41:39,230 --> 03:41:40,280
housing prices continue to

6280
03:41:40,280 --> 03:41:42,230
soar. The city council should

6281
03:41:42,230 --> 03:41:44,210
reject this plan and work

6282
03:41:44,210 --> 03:41:45,260
toward trying to save san jose

6283
03:41:45,260 --> 03:41:46,130
neighborhoods and

6284
03:41:46,130 --> 03:41:48,300
overdevelopment. And see what

6285
03:41:48,300 --> 03:41:50,190
we can do to fight back against

6286
03:41:50,190 --> 03:41:52,110
developers at the state level

6287
03:41:52,110 --> 03:41:53,290
which is basically how they're

6288
03:41:53,290 --> 03:41:55,190
trying to push a lot of these

6289
03:41:55,190 --> 03:41:58,160
projects through by using state

6290
03:41:58,160 --> 03:42:00,170
laws and also by just

6291
03:42:00,170 --> 03:42:02,170
dismantling local oversight.

6292
03:42:03,120 --> 03:42:06,120
thank you. >> back to council.

6293
03:42:06,160 --> 03:42:08,416
>> thank you, toni. Everyone

6294
03:42:09,150 --> 03:42:11,400
who spoke in public comment

6295
03:42:11,400 --> 03:42:12,180
only turned to my colleagues.

6296
03:42:12,180 --> 03:42:13,220
we'll start with the vice mayor

6297
03:42:13,220 --> 03:42:16,220
foley. Thank you, mayor and

6298
03:42:17,170 --> 03:42:19,110
thank you for the presentation

6299
03:42:19,110 --> 03:42:20,260
and for all the public

6300
03:42:20,260 --> 03:42:22,230
comments. I know this

6301
03:42:22,230 --> 03:42:24,600
intersection in this house

6302
03:42:24,600 --> 03:42:25,190
really well although it's in

6303
03:42:25,190 --> 03:42:27,250
districts six >> it's probably

6304
03:42:27,250 --> 03:42:29,800
closer to my house than it is

6305
03:42:29,800 --> 03:42:31,250
to yours. Council member. So I

6306
03:42:31,250 --> 03:42:34,000
drive down that way all the

6307
03:42:34,000 --> 03:42:35,230
time. I know curt and are very

6308
03:42:35,230 --> 03:42:37,210
well kirchner >> is a vision

6309
03:42:37,210 --> 03:42:40,110
zero corridor and does have

6310
03:42:40,110 --> 03:42:43,110
some serious safety issues that

6311
03:42:43,220 --> 03:42:45,200
intersection and in particular

6312
03:42:45,200 --> 03:42:47,200
is a dangerous intersection. I

6313
03:42:47,200 --> 03:42:50,300
agree with our the callers

6314
03:42:50,300 --> 03:42:52,190
about that. In the report it

6315
03:42:52,190 --> 03:42:54,270
mentions that speed bumps have

6316
03:42:54,270 --> 03:42:57,270
been installed on codel but

6317
03:42:58,110 --> 03:43:00,200
that isn't correct. I drove

6318
03:43:00,200 --> 03:43:02,200
down cogdell just yesterday to

6319
03:43:02,200 --> 03:43:04,220
confirm. As I said it's very

6320
03:43:04,220 --> 03:43:06,300
close to my house. I use that

6321
03:43:06,300 --> 03:43:08,240
way to get home all the time

6322
03:43:08,240 --> 03:43:10,120
and did not. There were no

6323
03:43:10,120 --> 03:43:11,250
speed bumps so I'm wondering

6324
03:43:11,250 --> 03:43:13,260
what the status is of the speed

6325
03:43:13,260 --> 03:43:16,500
bumps that might be implemented

6326
03:43:16,500 --> 03:43:18,270
to be installed on that street.

6327
03:43:18,270 --> 03:43:21,270
>> through the mayor we do have

6328
03:43:21,270 --> 03:43:23,700
department of transportation

6329
03:43:23,700 --> 03:43:25,180
staff perhaps they can address

6330
03:43:25,180 --> 03:43:26,180
like what kind of traffic

6331
03:43:26,180 --> 03:43:28,100
calming measures are being

6332
03:43:28,100 --> 03:43:30,200
implemented or proposed in that

6333
03:43:30,200 --> 03:43:31,160
area. Oh good because I have

6334
03:43:31,160 --> 03:43:33,600
more questions for him. Thank

6335
03:43:33,600 --> 03:43:36,606
you. >> you know I am the

6336
03:43:37,300 --> 03:43:39,403
vision zero councilmember so

6337
03:43:41,800 --> 03:43:44,800
and this corridor is of concern

6338
03:43:44,800 --> 03:43:47,800
to me >>. Hi. Hello. >> council

6339
03:43:48,000 --> 03:43:49,250
member for the future dottie

6340
03:43:49,250 --> 03:43:52,300
division manager. Thank you for

6341
03:43:52,300 --> 03:43:54,160
your question. I was not aware

6342
03:43:54,160 --> 03:43:55,270
of the speed bumps but I'll

6343
03:43:55,270 --> 03:43:57,100
have to talk to our vision zero

6344
03:43:57,100 --> 03:43:57,260
team. They're the ones who

6345
03:43:57,260 --> 03:43:59,270
handled those. I'm from a

6346
03:43:59,270 --> 03:44:01,120
different division. I do

6347
03:44:01,120 --> 03:44:03,700
development review as some

6348
03:44:03,700 --> 03:44:04,500
of your council members know

6349
03:44:04,500 --> 03:44:04,230
that I've worked with

6350
03:44:04,230 --> 03:44:06,260
personally but we'll get back

6351
03:44:06,260 --> 03:44:09,800
to you on the speed bumps

6352
03:44:09,800 --> 03:44:10,270
question but definitely this

6353
03:44:10,270 --> 03:44:12,270
intersection in the surrounding

6354
03:44:12,270 --> 03:44:14,140
neighborhood and the high

6355
03:44:14,140 --> 03:44:16,180
school there will high school

6356
03:44:16,180 --> 03:44:18,600
has received attention from

6357
03:44:18,600 --> 03:44:19,250
d.o.t. Traffic safety and our

6358
03:44:19,250 --> 03:44:21,120
neighborhood traffic management

6359
03:44:21,120 --> 03:44:24,180
team in the last few years and

6360
03:44:24,180 --> 03:44:26,240
we'll receive more in the next

6361
03:44:26,240 --> 03:44:28,200
upcoming year. We're currently

6362
03:44:28,200 --> 03:44:30,240
waiting for as the school has

6363
03:44:30,240 --> 03:44:33,500
started for traffic patterns to

6364
03:44:33,500 --> 03:44:35,500
normalize before our

6365
03:44:36,130 --> 03:44:37,210
neighborhood traffic management

6366
03:44:37,210 --> 03:44:40,100
team will go out there, obtain

6367
03:44:40,100 --> 03:44:42,280
specific counts to do a

6368
03:44:42,280 --> 03:44:44,210
crossing guard study at the

6369
03:44:44,210 --> 03:44:46,170
intersection of cogdell and

6370
03:44:46,170 --> 03:44:49,617
kerner and our safety team that

6371
03:44:50,800 --> 03:44:52,210
our school safety team will

6372
03:44:52,210 --> 03:44:55,621
also in mid-october do go out

6373
03:44:56,170 --> 03:44:58,120
there and obtain additional

6374
03:44:58,120 --> 03:45:00,190
data to do a access and

6375
03:45:00,190 --> 03:45:03,190
circulation study that they do

6376
03:45:04,600 --> 03:45:05,210
at other high schools and

6377
03:45:05,210 --> 03:45:08,210
elementary schools in san jose.

6378
03:45:08,240 --> 03:45:10,600
so thank you for that. So

6379
03:45:10,600 --> 03:45:12,000
you're still planning to do a

6380
03:45:12,000 --> 03:45:14,600
traffic study of sorts to

6381
03:45:14,600 --> 03:45:16,300
determine the flow of traffic

6382
03:45:16,300 --> 03:45:18,210
down cogdell and kerner or

6383
03:45:18,210 --> 03:45:20,600
particularly in relation to the

6384
03:45:20,600 --> 03:45:22,200
schools. But that really is

6385
03:45:22,200 --> 03:45:24,280
when traffic is most impacted

6386
03:45:24,280 --> 03:45:26,428
on cogdell avenue because

6387
03:45:27,900 --> 03:45:29,000
of willow glen middle high and

6388
03:45:29,000 --> 03:45:30,210
the preschool that is right

6389
03:45:30,210 --> 03:45:32,260
there. So you're planning to do

6390
03:45:32,260 --> 03:45:34,160
that after school gets settled

6391
03:45:34,160 --> 03:45:37,160
in september or october? Yes,

6392
03:45:37,280 --> 03:45:39,000
right now I think we're talking

6393
03:45:39,000 --> 03:45:41,000
about a mid-october timeline in

6394
03:45:41,000 --> 03:45:43,110
terms of the actual school

6395
03:45:43,110 --> 03:45:45,100
circulation and access study. I

6396
03:45:45,100 --> 03:45:47,260
think that counts for the cross

6397
03:45:47,260 --> 03:45:50,200
card study. Well, maybe perhaps

6398
03:45:50,200 --> 03:45:51,190
a little bit earlier will be

6399
03:45:51,190 --> 03:45:53,140
obtained but will confirm. >>

6400
03:45:53,140 --> 03:45:56,230
okay. Thank you for that. The

6401
03:45:56,230 --> 03:45:58,160
other thing I noticed as I was

6402
03:45:58,160 --> 03:46:00,110
driving across the intersection

6403
03:46:00,110 --> 03:46:04,110
is that the paint on for the

6404
03:46:04,110 --> 03:46:06,240
intersection for the crosswalks

6405
03:46:06,240 --> 03:46:08,260
is quite faded and could use a

6406
03:46:08,260 --> 03:46:10,250
>> refresher. I know they're

6407
03:46:10,250 --> 03:46:12,300
doing work on kerner. We've

6408
03:46:12,300 --> 03:46:16,180
worked on it regularly and it's

6409
03:46:16,180 --> 03:46:19,400
even just having the highlights

6410
03:46:19,400 --> 03:46:21,190
of better painting would would

6411
03:46:21,190 --> 03:46:25,240
help a little bit. So I'm happy

6412
03:46:25,240 --> 03:46:27,160
to hear that. I'm I'm going to

6413
03:46:27,160 --> 03:46:29,290
defer to councilmember mulcahy

6414
03:46:29,290 --> 03:46:32,400
for for some of this but you

6415
03:46:32,400 --> 03:46:33,800
should all know that this is a

6416
03:46:33,800 --> 03:46:35,270
quasi hearing and we act as

6417
03:46:35,270 --> 03:46:37,230
judge and jury over this

6418
03:46:37,230 --> 03:46:40,180
hearing and we're only hearing

6419
03:46:40,180 --> 03:46:43,618
the appeal to what the what

6420
03:46:44,000 --> 03:46:46,180
planning department has already

6421
03:46:46,180 --> 03:46:49,618
said. Isn't that correct? Yes.

6422
03:46:50,800 --> 03:46:52,000
from an attorney or someone who

6423
03:46:52,000 --> 03:46:53,210
whoever? Yes, that is correct.

6424
03:46:53,210 --> 03:46:54,230
although the council can

6425
03:46:54,230 --> 03:46:56,200
consider the project de novo in

6426
03:46:56,200 --> 03:46:57,250
terms of the entirety of the

6427
03:46:57,250 --> 03:47:00,140
project. Okay. So I'm not sure

6428
03:47:00,140 --> 03:47:02,210
that this is on point within

6429
03:47:02,210 --> 03:47:04,230
this quasi hearing or not but I

6430
03:47:04,230 --> 03:47:07,700
have a question with regards to

6431
03:47:07,700 --> 03:47:09,240
the construction hours as it

6432
03:47:09,240 --> 03:47:11,130
relates to the middle and high

6433
03:47:11,130 --> 03:47:14,130
school and traffic patterns. I

6434
03:47:14,160 --> 03:47:17,900
would hope that when we move

6435
03:47:17,900 --> 03:47:19,110
forward or is it possible to

6436
03:47:19,110 --> 03:47:21,110
restrict construction outside

6437
03:47:22,220 --> 03:47:25,220
the window of commute traffic

6438
03:47:26,190 --> 03:47:28,300
drop off and pick up because

6439
03:47:28,300 --> 03:47:30,900
it's they're working on cogdell

6440
03:47:30,900 --> 03:47:32,000
or kerner >> it's going to be a

6441
03:47:32,000 --> 03:47:34,240
mess and I share the concern

6442
03:47:34,240 --> 03:47:35,290
of those neighbors who live

6443
03:47:35,290 --> 03:47:37,140
there. I don't have to >> drop

6444
03:47:37,140 --> 03:47:38,220
my daughter off anymore. She's

6445
03:47:38,220 --> 03:47:40,280
30 but I used to drop her off

6446
03:47:40,280 --> 03:47:42,120
all the time to willow, glen

6447
03:47:42,120 --> 03:47:43,210
and I'd figure out ways to

6448
03:47:43,210 --> 03:47:45,220
avoid the traffic. It's only

6449
03:47:45,220 --> 03:47:47,290
gotten worse so is there

6450
03:47:47,290 --> 03:47:50,629
anything we can? Yes, we can.

6451
03:47:51,140 --> 03:47:52,280
yeah, I think for a

6452
03:47:52,280 --> 03:47:54,120
construction project typically

6453
03:47:54,120 --> 03:47:55,280
a construction management plan

6454
03:47:55,280 --> 03:47:57,800
could be required and the

6455
03:47:57,800 --> 03:47:59,700
council has the discretion to

6456
03:47:59,700 --> 03:48:00,160
provide parameters that can

6457
03:48:00,160 --> 03:48:01,240
then be imposed by the public

6458
03:48:01,240 --> 03:48:03,230
works team. >> okay so council

6459
03:48:03,230 --> 03:48:06,170
member when that comes before

6460
03:48:06,170 --> 03:48:09,120
you I'll let you advocate for

6461
03:48:09,120 --> 03:48:11,200
the schools and parents who are

6462
03:48:11,200 --> 03:48:13,190
traveling with that. I really

6463
03:48:13,190 --> 03:48:15,110
appreciate it. I'm familiar

6464
03:48:15,110 --> 03:48:16,280
with the project, I'm familiar

6465
03:48:16,280 --> 03:48:19,160
with the the house as I said

6466
03:48:19,160 --> 03:48:23,260
very, very much so I think it

6467
03:48:23,260 --> 03:48:25,260
is higher density that in is

6468
03:48:25,260 --> 03:48:29,250
what the what is there now and

6469
03:48:29,250 --> 03:48:32,180
my major concern is traffic and

6470
03:48:32,180 --> 03:48:34,900
pedestrian safety. So I'll

6471
03:48:34,900 --> 03:48:35,180
leave it at that. Thank you.

6472
03:48:35,180 --> 03:48:37,170
thanks, vice mayor. We turn to

6473
03:48:37,170 --> 03:48:39,417
councilmember mckay. Thank you,

6474
03:48:41,800 --> 03:48:44,800
mayor. Thank you, vice mayor

6475
03:48:44,220 --> 03:48:46,290
foley for raising some of those

6476
03:48:46,290 --> 03:48:49,800
issues. I was going to cover a

6477
03:48:49,800 --> 03:48:50,900
couple of those things but I

6478
03:48:50,900 --> 03:48:53,600
really just wanted to start

6479
03:48:53,600 --> 03:48:55,240
when one of the callers came on

6480
03:48:55,240 --> 03:48:57,110
I think it was christine, one

6481
03:48:57,110 --> 03:48:59,300
of the appellant's she was

6482
03:48:59,300 --> 03:49:01,100
right. There was a tragic

6483
03:49:01,100 --> 03:49:04,500
collision or excuse me a tragic

6484
03:49:04,500 --> 03:49:05,260
incident that occurred at this

6485
03:49:05,260 --> 03:49:07,426
very intersection at about 1115

6486
03:49:08,210 --> 03:49:11,000
earlier today which I found out

6487
03:49:11,000 --> 03:49:13,170
about right before this

6488
03:49:13,170 --> 03:49:15,150
meeting. And it was a road rage

6489
03:49:15,150 --> 03:49:18,150
incident. And as vice mayor

6490
03:49:19,180 --> 03:49:21,600
foley pointed out, this has

6491
03:49:21,600 --> 03:49:23,150
been a challenging street

6492
03:49:23,150 --> 03:49:26,000
overall. Kerner is not just

6493
03:49:26,000 --> 03:49:28,290
at coddle but at hix and books

6494
03:49:28,290 --> 03:49:31,100
and and meridian and I know

6495
03:49:31,100 --> 03:49:32,220
going into council member

6496
03:49:32,220 --> 03:49:35,622
foley, vice mayor foley's and

6497
03:49:36,150 --> 03:49:37,110
councilmember duane's district

6498
03:49:37,110 --> 03:49:40,900
that's a kerner situation and

6499
03:49:40,900 --> 03:49:42,250
so we have a lot of work to do

6500
03:49:42,250 --> 03:49:44,270
to keep that a safer street

6501
03:49:44,270 --> 03:49:47,627
overall. So having said that, I

6502
03:49:49,300 --> 03:49:50,160
just want to thank the

6503
03:49:50,160 --> 03:49:51,250
applicant and and the

6504
03:49:51,250 --> 03:49:53,425
appellants for speaking today

6505
03:49:54,200 --> 03:49:55,230
and for following through on

6506
03:49:55,230 --> 03:49:57,800
the appeals process and for

6507
03:49:57,800 --> 03:49:58,220
sharing perspectives and

6508
03:49:58,220 --> 03:50:01,800
reasoning. And again I know

6509
03:50:01,800 --> 03:50:02,250
vice mayor covid this I want to

6510
03:50:02,250 --> 03:50:04,110
emphasize that our role on this

6511
03:50:04,110 --> 03:50:05,180
item is different than a

6512
03:50:05,180 --> 03:50:08,300
typical council agenda. We hear

6513
03:50:08,300 --> 03:50:10,160
this item as a quasi judicial

6514
03:50:10,160 --> 03:50:12,140
role and what is considered an

6515
03:50:12,140 --> 03:50:14,200
administrative appeal. So our

6516
03:50:14,200 --> 03:50:16,500
role is not to decide whether

6517
03:50:16,500 --> 03:50:18,170
we endorse the project at 1295

6518
03:50:18,170 --> 03:50:21,290
kerner avenue or not. It's

6519
03:50:21,290 --> 03:50:23,500
whether they have met the

6520
03:50:23,500 --> 03:50:25,800
obligations of the appeal and

6521
03:50:25,800 --> 03:50:27,140
really all of the project piece

6522
03:50:27,140 --> 03:50:29,400
of this was determined by the

6523
03:50:29,400 --> 03:50:30,170
director of planning at an

6524
03:50:30,170 --> 03:50:33,100
earlier hearing. So with that

6525
03:50:33,100 --> 03:50:34,270
as a backdrop based on

6526
03:50:34,270 --> 03:50:35,290
my review of the information

6527
03:50:35,290 --> 03:50:37,260
made available on the appeal

6528
03:50:37,260 --> 03:50:39,150
and the process the applicable

6529
03:50:39,150 --> 03:50:41,210
laws and procedures appear to

6530
03:50:41,210 --> 03:50:44,170
have been followed now having

6531
03:50:44,170 --> 03:50:46,190
said that, as the community is

6532
03:50:46,190 --> 03:50:48,230
aware our office shares many

6533
03:50:48,230 --> 03:50:50,000
of the concerns regarding

6534
03:50:50,000 --> 03:50:51,240
traffic safety at kerner and

6535
03:50:51,240 --> 03:50:53,160
connell and certainly

6536
03:50:53,160 --> 03:50:55,500
reinforced by the incident this

6537
03:50:55,500 --> 03:50:56,800
morning. We're actually

6538
03:50:56,800 --> 03:50:57,200
concerned about council overall

6539
03:50:57,200 --> 03:50:59,100
as I said before and will

6540
03:50:59,100 --> 03:51:00,260
continue to work on those

6541
03:51:00,260 --> 03:51:03,150
issues more broadly than just

6542
03:51:03,150 --> 03:51:05,200
this intersection. But last

6543
03:51:05,200 --> 03:51:07,240
year there was a collision

6544
03:51:07,240 --> 03:51:09,240
incident at kerner and cottle

6545
03:51:09,240 --> 03:51:11,600
and I think our dot

6546
03:51:11,600 --> 03:51:12,210
representative talked about

6547
03:51:12,210 --> 03:51:14,200
some of the things that

6548
03:51:14,200 --> 03:51:16,600
resulted from that. We've added

6549
03:51:16,600 --> 03:51:18,170
delineation and striping red

6550
03:51:18,170 --> 03:51:20,200
curbing and daylighting at the

6551
03:51:20,200 --> 03:51:22,420
intersection and for those

6552
03:51:23,160 --> 03:51:24,260
of you not as familiar I know

6553
03:51:24,260 --> 03:51:26,800
it was talked about there's a

6554
03:51:26,800 --> 03:51:29,800
park, a community garden, a

6555
03:51:29,240 --> 03:51:31,240
significant tennis facility

6556
03:51:31,290 --> 03:51:34,600
there will a glen middle school

6557
03:51:34,600 --> 03:51:35,240
and willow glen high school it

6558
03:51:35,240 --> 03:51:38,800
is very active and I want to

6559
03:51:38,800 --> 03:51:39,220
specifically recognize the

6560
03:51:39,220 --> 03:51:41,500
willow glen neighborhood

6561
03:51:41,500 --> 03:51:42,220
association and marian sedar

6562
03:51:42,220 --> 03:51:44,900
quest who really helped

6563
03:51:44,900 --> 03:51:46,700
spearhead some of the response

6564
03:51:46,700 --> 03:51:49,800
to that incident last year. Now

6565
03:51:49,800 --> 03:51:50,120
because of the type

6566
03:51:50,120 --> 03:51:51,280
of application this project is

6567
03:51:51,280 --> 03:51:53,100
under state law the city is

6568
03:51:53,100 --> 03:51:54,250
limited in what it can require

6569
03:51:54,250 --> 03:51:56,425
the applicant including traffic

6570
03:51:57,110 --> 03:51:59,220
mitigation improvements. But I

6571
03:51:59,220 --> 03:52:01,300
did want to mention that with

6572
03:52:01,300 --> 03:52:02,200
planning staff and during the

6573
03:52:02,200 --> 03:52:04,210
design process the developer

6574
03:52:04,210 --> 03:52:07,110
did move the ingress egress

6575
03:52:07,110 --> 03:52:09,280
farther. I think it is north on

6576
03:52:09,280 --> 03:52:12,628
cottle in order to get farther

6577
03:52:13,300 --> 03:52:14,260
away from the intersection due

6578
03:52:14,260 --> 03:52:17,100
to obvious concerns about more

6579
03:52:17,100 --> 03:52:19,280
crowding at the intersection >>

6580
03:52:19,280 --> 03:52:22,110
and I know you know this

6581
03:52:22,110 --> 03:52:23,250
doesn't appeal to everybody but

6582
03:52:23,250 --> 03:52:25,900
the developer is building less

6583
03:52:25,900 --> 03:52:28,100
units than they could have

6584
03:52:28,100 --> 03:52:30,220
under state law. And you heard

6585
03:52:30,220 --> 03:52:33,180
the parking ratio at three and

6586
03:52:33,180 --> 03:52:37,100
a half and you know that is

6587
03:52:37,100 --> 03:52:38,180
certainly an improvement to

6588
03:52:38,180 --> 03:52:40,250
what this could have been. And

6589
03:52:40,250 --> 03:52:42,120
as vice mayor foley pointed

6590
03:52:42,120 --> 03:52:43,280
out, I live right up the

6591
03:52:43,280 --> 03:52:45,270
street. I probably I think I

6592
03:52:45,270 --> 03:52:47,150
was on kerner and connell

6593
03:52:47,150 --> 03:52:49,900
intersection this morning on

6594
03:52:49,900 --> 03:52:51,000
the way here. I'm there very

6595
03:52:51,000 --> 03:52:53,400
frequently. I get it and I know

6596
03:52:53,400 --> 03:52:56,400
that is a challenge. But

6597
03:52:56,180 --> 03:52:58,170
there's also the property that

6598
03:52:58,170 --> 03:53:00,260
is there has contributed to the

6599
03:53:00,260 --> 03:53:03,400
challenge and yes there are

6600
03:53:03,400 --> 03:53:04,220
some fantastic trees on the

6601
03:53:04,220 --> 03:53:06,280
property but basically the

6602
03:53:06,280 --> 03:53:10,300
property is the site is so that

6603
03:53:10,300 --> 03:53:11,290
there's created a blind spot

6604
03:53:11,290 --> 03:53:13,160
right on curtin and right on

6605
03:53:13,160 --> 03:53:16,300
cottle because its foliage is

6606
03:53:16,300 --> 03:53:18,120
right out on to onto the

6607
03:53:18,120 --> 03:53:20,000
street. This project will

6608
03:53:20,000 --> 03:53:22,160
provide a greater setback

6609
03:53:22,160 --> 03:53:24,100
at the front edge to create a

6610
03:53:24,100 --> 03:53:26,900
little bit less a lot less of a

6611
03:53:26,900 --> 03:53:28,160
blind spot at that intersection

6612
03:53:28,160 --> 03:53:30,220
both traveling southbound on

6613
03:53:30,220 --> 03:53:33,220
cottle and westbound on and

6614
03:53:35,000 --> 03:53:37,240
kirchner >> so I do we have

6615
03:53:37,240 --> 03:53:39,250
john I know are you here for us

6616
03:53:39,250 --> 03:53:42,150
for dougherty today sir? Yes,

6617
03:53:42,150 --> 03:53:44,290
ma'am. Council okay so there's

6618
03:53:44,290 --> 03:53:47,200
been talk about we can't

6619
03:53:47,200 --> 03:53:48,150
mandate the developer do

6620
03:53:48,150 --> 03:53:50,700
traffic study right? We've been

6621
03:53:50,700 --> 03:53:52,000
doing some of our own because

6622
03:53:52,000 --> 03:53:53,900
in the midst of this process

6623
03:53:53,900 --> 03:53:55,170
we've had other incidents occur

6624
03:53:55,170 --> 03:53:58,250
and of course today we want to

6625
03:53:58,250 --> 03:53:59,280
I want to talk about what we

6626
03:53:59,280 --> 03:54:02,300
can learn from the accident

6627
03:54:02,300 --> 03:54:03,120
that occurred today or the

6628
03:54:03,120 --> 03:54:05,700
incident that occurred today.

6629
03:54:05,700 --> 03:54:08,100
but talk >> to me about what

6630
03:54:08,100 --> 03:54:10,700
what I'd like to recommend is

6631
03:54:10,700 --> 03:54:12,190
that we do a city initiated

6632
03:54:12,190 --> 03:54:14,210
traffic study. It's beyond what

6633
03:54:14,210 --> 03:54:16,190
we're doing for and maybe we

6634
03:54:16,190 --> 03:54:18,220
could sort of piece it together

6635
03:54:18,220 --> 03:54:19,280
with what we're doing for the

6636
03:54:19,280 --> 03:54:22,110
crossing guard program to test

6637
03:54:22,110 --> 03:54:23,160
whether that's going to be

6638
03:54:23,160 --> 03:54:24,230
something we can do at this

6639
03:54:24,230 --> 03:54:27,500
corner. But to make sure that

6640
03:54:27,500 --> 03:54:28,280
we have a baseline of where we

6641
03:54:28,280 --> 03:54:30,110
are pre-construction

6642
03:54:30,110 --> 03:54:32,200
construction and then the the

6643
03:54:32,200 --> 03:54:35,200
concept of a post construction

6644
03:54:35,200 --> 03:54:38,200
but after the occupancy and

6645
03:54:38,290 --> 03:54:41,200
let's say that we get to 75%

6646
03:54:41,200 --> 03:54:43,160
occupancy see of the 12 units

6647
03:54:43,160 --> 03:54:45,150
before we would initiate a

6648
03:54:45,150 --> 03:54:47,150
second after construction

6649
03:54:48,500 --> 03:54:50,290
traffic study with the notion

6650
03:54:50,290 --> 03:54:52,200
that we would do it during

6651
03:54:52,200 --> 03:54:53,260
school time just like we're

6652
03:54:53,260 --> 03:54:55,110
talking about or it's a foley

6653
03:54:55,110 --> 03:54:57,000
loaded schedule both schools

6654
03:54:57,000 --> 03:54:59,600
are back. Is that something

6655
03:54:59,600 --> 03:55:01,230
that we can accommodate and and

6656
03:55:01,230 --> 03:55:03,110
you know put on the record now?

6657
03:55:03,110 --> 03:55:06,110
>> yeah, definitely we can work

6658
03:55:06,150 --> 03:55:08,000
with their staff to make sure

6659
03:55:08,000 --> 03:55:10,600
that that can happen and we'll

6660
03:55:10,600 --> 03:55:12,600
use this opportunity to obtain

6661
03:55:12,600 --> 03:55:14,160
what we can call like existing

6662
03:55:14,160 --> 03:55:16,110
operations and data and then

6663
03:55:16,110 --> 03:55:18,160
post as you said seven 5%

6664
03:55:18,160 --> 03:55:20,270
occupancy afterwards we can

6665
03:55:20,270 --> 03:55:22,100
go back out there and look

6666
03:55:22,100 --> 03:55:23,110
at the situation and obtained

6667
03:55:23,110 --> 03:55:25,200
it again. >> so I want to make

6668
03:55:25,200 --> 03:55:26,230
sure that we're on the same

6669
03:55:26,230 --> 03:55:28,700
page in terms of this

6670
03:55:28,700 --> 03:55:30,900
pre-construction study, I want

6671
03:55:30,900 --> 03:55:32,500
to make sure that we have this

6672
03:55:32,500 --> 03:55:33,170
one piece that's working

6673
03:55:33,170 --> 03:55:35,180
through the system relative to

6674
03:55:35,180 --> 03:55:37,900
testing whether it would rise

6675
03:55:37,900 --> 03:55:40,260
to try a crossing guard. But

6676
03:55:40,260 --> 03:55:42,100
then the other piece that I'm

6677
03:55:42,100 --> 03:55:43,130
talking about is getting an

6678
03:55:43,130 --> 03:55:45,280
overall baseline that might

6679
03:55:45,280 --> 03:55:47,130
require some other data so on

6680
03:55:47,130 --> 03:55:48,160
to make sure we're on the same

6681
03:55:48,160 --> 03:55:49,220
page and we'll work together to

6682
03:55:49,220 --> 03:55:51,300
make sure that scoping is right

6683
03:55:51,300 --> 03:55:53,260
. That's right. Correct. Okay.

6684
03:55:53,260 --> 03:55:57,100
>> and then I don't know if

6685
03:55:57,100 --> 03:56:00,900
you've had any experience with

6686
03:56:00,900 --> 03:56:01,210
you know, whether or not

6687
03:56:01,210 --> 03:56:03,200
there's anything we can learn

6688
03:56:03,200 --> 03:56:04,600
and we won't know until the

6689
03:56:04,600 --> 03:56:06,200
coming days from the incident

6690
03:56:06,200 --> 03:56:09,100
today and whether or not that

6691
03:56:09,100 --> 03:56:11,401
was exacerbated by roadway

6692
03:56:12,110 --> 03:56:14,500
conditions caused by roadway

6693
03:56:14,500 --> 03:56:15,270
conditions. Was there any

6694
03:56:15,270 --> 03:56:17,800
relationship between the

6695
03:56:17,800 --> 03:56:19,260
intersection and what happened?

6696
03:56:19,260 --> 03:56:21,900
I don't think anybody

6697
03:56:21,900 --> 03:56:22,600
of nobody's been out of this

6698
03:56:22,600 --> 03:56:24,900
building today to necessarily

6699
03:56:24,900 --> 03:56:25,190
investigate that. But I want to

6700
03:56:25,190 --> 03:56:27,100
make sure that there's a police

6701
03:56:27,100 --> 03:56:29,100
department engagement and

6702
03:56:29,200 --> 03:56:30,210
really understanding whether or

6703
03:56:30,210 --> 03:56:31,210
not there's anything we can

6704
03:56:31,210 --> 03:56:33,900
learn from today that can

6705
03:56:33,900 --> 03:56:35,260
inform other measures that we

6706
03:56:35,260 --> 03:56:37,110
may take at that intersection.

6707
03:56:37,110 --> 03:56:40,300
>> yeah. D.o.t. Typically works

6708
03:56:40,300 --> 03:56:41,600
with the police department to

6709
03:56:41,600 --> 03:56:42,230
look at the police reports for

6710
03:56:42,230 --> 03:56:44,800
various collisions to

6711
03:56:44,800 --> 03:56:47,200
understand what were the causes

6712
03:56:47,200 --> 03:56:47,250
of the collisions in the

6713
03:56:47,250 --> 03:56:50,000
incidents. Yeah. So when that

6714
03:56:50,000 --> 03:56:51,140
will be available we'll will

6715
03:56:51,140 --> 03:56:52,600
definitely make sure that

6716
03:56:52,600 --> 03:56:54,230
that's part of the study that

6717
03:56:54,230 --> 03:56:56,140
we do out there. Okay. Thank

6718
03:56:56,140 --> 03:56:58,000
you. And >> to the vice mayor's

6719
03:56:58,000 --> 03:57:00,170
point, I'll just double down

6720
03:57:00,170 --> 03:57:03,190
that if there's any you know,

6721
03:57:03,190 --> 03:57:05,100
discoloration in the

6722
03:57:05,100 --> 03:57:06,260
intersection as we sit here

6723
03:57:06,260 --> 03:57:08,160
today, that's probably

6724
03:57:08,160 --> 03:57:09,230
something we can get out and

6725
03:57:09,230 --> 03:57:11,200
and take care of pretty

6726
03:57:11,200 --> 03:57:14,500
quickly. Yes, we can work with

6727
03:57:14,500 --> 03:57:16,180
our d.o.t. Pavement crews to

6728
03:57:16,180 --> 03:57:18,600
refresh, as we say, the

6729
03:57:18,600 --> 03:57:19,220
existing striping out there. I

6730
03:57:19,220 --> 03:57:20,200
mean we've >> been we've done

6731
03:57:20,200 --> 03:57:22,300
work out there most recently

6732
03:57:22,300 --> 03:57:23,130
but a lot of times we put in

6733
03:57:23,130 --> 03:57:24,220
the new work but we don't

6734
03:57:24,220 --> 03:57:26,180
really check the old stuff and

6735
03:57:26,180 --> 03:57:29,170
I think we should do that. So

6736
03:57:29,170 --> 03:57:30,270
>> turning away from traffic I

6737
03:57:30,270 --> 03:57:33,200
just want to go back to trees.

6738
03:57:33,200 --> 03:57:34,180
this has been a very hot topic

6739
03:57:34,180 --> 03:57:37,180
lately here at council. Yes

6740
03:57:38,260 --> 03:57:41,000
they are removing 24 trees but

6741
03:57:41,000 --> 03:57:42,280
as I understand it and minera

6742
03:57:42,280 --> 03:57:44,170
maybe you can check my math on

6743
03:57:44,170 --> 03:57:47,170
this the development will plant

6744
03:57:48,400 --> 03:57:51,604
81 new trees on this site which

6745
03:57:52,600 --> 03:57:54,200
is more than the 74 that would

6746
03:57:54,200 --> 03:57:55,290
be required at the site minera

6747
03:57:55,290 --> 03:57:57,300
can you confirm I have that

6748
03:57:57,300 --> 03:57:58,270
number right? Yes, that is

6749
03:57:58,270 --> 03:58:01,280
correct. So >> given the jury a

6750
03:58:01,280 --> 03:58:03,600
grand jury report we heard

6751
03:58:03,600 --> 03:58:04,150
at council last week, we know

6752
03:58:04,150 --> 03:58:06,200
how important trees are. I

6753
03:58:06,200 --> 03:58:08,100
think this will be helpful for

6754
03:58:08,100 --> 03:58:09,220
our tree canopy and the

6755
03:58:09,220 --> 03:58:11,170
well-being of our city. The one

6756
03:58:11,170 --> 03:58:13,300
thing I want to make sure we do

6757
03:58:13,300 --> 03:58:16,160
and I'm know I'm talking to the

6758
03:58:16,160 --> 03:58:19,110
chiefs of the department here

6759
03:58:19,110 --> 03:58:21,140
we have to make sure that every

6760
03:58:21,140 --> 03:58:22,230
one of those trees gets in the

6761
03:58:22,230 --> 03:58:24,423
ground, especially those street

6762
03:58:25,200 --> 03:58:28,300
trees, those ones that you know

6763
03:58:28,300 --> 03:58:29,200
matter the most to the people

6764
03:58:29,200 --> 03:58:31,210
that are expecting that we're

6765
03:58:31,210 --> 03:58:33,700
going to follow through when we

6766
03:58:33,700 --> 03:58:34,200
say we're going to expect trees

6767
03:58:34,200 --> 03:58:36,230
that they actually get planted.

6768
03:58:36,230 --> 03:58:37,230
so we want to make sure that

6769
03:58:37,230 --> 03:58:39,250
we're you know, on that before

6770
03:58:39,250 --> 03:58:42,625
they get their final. So I

6771
03:58:43,190 --> 03:58:44,250
would just say as a council

6772
03:58:44,250 --> 03:58:46,180
office and as your council

6773
03:58:46,180 --> 03:58:48,800
member will continue to work

6774
03:58:48,800 --> 03:58:50,000
with our residents and our

6775
03:58:50,000 --> 03:58:52,140
transportation partners as well

6776
03:58:52,140 --> 03:58:54,150
as us the san jose unified

6777
03:58:54,150 --> 03:58:56,900
school district leadership whom

6778
03:58:56,900 --> 03:58:58,150
we've spoken to before about

6779
03:58:58,150 --> 03:59:00,180
modifying school times which is

6780
03:59:00,180 --> 03:59:02,400
a state requirement and they

6781
03:59:02,400 --> 03:59:03,240
can't do that. That idea

6782
03:59:03,240 --> 03:59:05,800
of breaking up may be a little

6783
03:59:05,800 --> 03:59:06,160
bit different middle school

6784
03:59:06,160 --> 03:59:08,220
high school even five minutes

6785
03:59:08,220 --> 03:59:10,130
we've noted would make a huge

6786
03:59:10,130 --> 03:59:12,150
difference. State law >> will

6787
03:59:12,150 --> 03:59:14,500
not allow them to do that but

6788
03:59:14,500 --> 03:59:16,180
we'll continue to find ways to

6789
03:59:16,180 --> 03:59:18,240
keep our kids safe and working

6790
03:59:18,240 --> 03:59:20,140
with san jose unified on that.

6791
03:59:20,140 --> 03:59:23,110
>> I just want to say that

6792
03:59:23,110 --> 03:59:25,500
traffic safety I'm sort

6793
03:59:25,500 --> 03:59:26,150
of looking down the days here

6794
03:59:26,150 --> 03:59:28,200
it's probably top three for

6795
03:59:28,200 --> 03:59:29,240
every one of us as we hear from

6796
03:59:29,240 --> 03:59:31,220
our community and will continue

6797
03:59:31,220 --> 03:59:33,190
to be a point of interest. So

6798
03:59:33,190 --> 03:59:35,140
with that I do want to move

6799
03:59:35,140 --> 03:59:37,190
staff's recommendation to deny

6800
03:59:37,190 --> 03:59:40,160
the site development permit and

6801
03:59:40,160 --> 03:59:42,100
environmental appeals and to

6802
03:59:42,100 --> 03:59:45,100
approve this project second all

6803
03:59:47,170 --> 03:59:48,100
right, thanks council

6804
03:59:48,100 --> 03:59:49,110
appreciate >> all your good

6805
03:59:49,110 --> 03:59:52,700
questions and comments on the

6806
03:59:52,700 --> 03:59:53,180
trees. It may be a pet peeve

6807
03:59:53,180 --> 03:59:54,260
but with a strong preference

6808
03:59:54,260 --> 03:59:56,600
for native trees that are going

6809
03:59:56,600 --> 03:59:57,100
to actually provide real

6810
03:59:57,100 --> 03:59:59,400
longevity and canopy cover when

6811
03:59:59,400 --> 04:00:00,100
they get built out and what

6812
04:00:00,100 --> 04:00:02,110
little I don't know how you do

6813
04:00:02,110 --> 04:00:04,500
60 some we don't want little

6814
04:00:04,500 --> 04:00:05,150
ornamental things I think some

6815
04:00:05,150 --> 04:00:08,300
real real trees would be great.

6816
04:00:08,300 --> 04:00:09,150
okay what else anything else

6817
04:00:09,150 --> 04:00:12,120
from colleagues I'm not seeing

6818
04:00:12,120 --> 04:00:14,270
anything. So toni, we need to

6819
04:00:14,270 --> 04:00:16,220
vote on this item motion from

6820
04:00:16,220 --> 04:00:18,220
councilor mulcahy

6821
04:00:34,500 --> 04:00:36,500
. Motion passes >> unanimously.

6822
04:00:39,200 --> 04:00:41,800
okay. Thank you, toni. All

6823
04:00:41,800 --> 04:00:43,160
right. Thank you to staff we

6824
04:00:43,160 --> 04:00:46,616
are on to item 10.3. This is

6825
04:00:47,260 --> 04:00:50,130
the general plan four year

6826
04:00:50,130 --> 04:00:52,413
review policy framework going

6827
04:00:53,150 --> 04:00:55,100
to have a staff presentation

6828
04:00:55,100 --> 04:00:56,170
then we'll move to public

6829
04:00:56,170 --> 04:00:57,220
comment and then we'll come

6830
04:00:57,220 --> 04:00:59,240
back to the council for

6831
04:00:59,240 --> 04:01:02,624
discussion and a motion I do

6832
04:01:03,200 --> 04:01:03,290
want to just note for the

6833
04:01:03,290 --> 04:01:05,100
public and we have a lot

6834
04:01:05,100 --> 04:01:06,800
of folks here who want to speak

6835
04:01:06,800 --> 04:01:09,800
as I mentioned before, we

6836
04:01:09,200 --> 04:01:12,200
strongly encourage folks to not

6837
04:01:12,210 --> 04:01:14,200
cheer and boos so that we can

6838
04:01:14,200 --> 04:01:15,190
hear people can have their time

6839
04:01:15,190 --> 04:01:16,180
at the mic and we can be

6840
04:01:16,180 --> 04:01:17,230
efficient so we're not here

6841
04:01:17,230 --> 04:01:19,190
until midnight. I also want to

6842
04:01:19,190 --> 04:01:20,290


6843
04:01:20,290 --> 04:01:24,100
I see some very large signs and

6844
04:01:24,100 --> 04:01:25,100
I support your signs as an

6845
04:01:25,100 --> 04:01:26,180
expression of free speech.

6846
04:01:26,180 --> 04:01:29,700
however we ask you to keep them

6847
04:01:29,700 --> 04:01:30,290
down kind of in front of you

6848
04:01:30,290 --> 04:01:32,190
and do not block the person

6849
04:01:32,190 --> 04:01:33,260
behind you. Please be

6850
04:01:33,260 --> 04:01:35,426
respectful to your neighbors.

6851
04:01:36,000 --> 04:01:37,300
not everyone in the chamber

6852
04:01:37,300 --> 04:01:38,180
here agrees on this issue. I

6853
04:01:38,180 --> 04:01:39,120
think we're going to hear from

6854
04:01:39,120 --> 04:01:42,120
a wide range of perspectives.

6855
04:01:43,100 --> 04:01:44,140
one other note and toni, we'll

6856
04:01:44,140 --> 04:01:45,160
have more when we go to public

6857
04:01:45,160 --> 04:01:47,800
comment. Council members may

6858
04:01:47,800 --> 04:01:48,290
step back into the green room

6859
04:01:48,290 --> 04:01:50,200
to use the restroom or grab a

6860
04:01:50,200 --> 04:01:51,270
quick bite to eat. It's already

6861
04:01:51,270 --> 04:01:53,900
been a long day. We started

6862
04:01:53,900 --> 04:01:54,200
with closed session at 9:30

6863
04:01:54,200 --> 04:01:56,240
a.m. Today. I want you to know

6864
04:01:56,240 --> 04:01:58,600
that in the back we have the

6865
04:01:58,600 --> 04:01:59,200
full meeting on screens and

6866
04:01:59,200 --> 04:02:01,600
full audio so people are

6867
04:02:01,600 --> 04:02:02,110
hearing every bit of the

6868
04:02:02,110 --> 04:02:03,220
presentation, every public

6869
04:02:03,220 --> 04:02:05,210
comment. It is not a way for

6870
04:02:05,210 --> 04:02:08,000
council members to duck out on

6871
04:02:08,000 --> 04:02:09,110
you. I just want you to be to

6872
04:02:09,110 --> 04:02:12,800
rest assured. Okay chris, I'm

6873
04:02:12,800 --> 04:02:13,250
going to turn to you to begin

6874
04:02:13,250 --> 04:02:15,900
the staff presentation and then

6875
04:02:15,900 --> 04:02:18,609
we'll go to public comment.

6876
04:02:19,130 --> 04:02:22,130
thank you, mayor chris burton,

6877
04:02:22,180 --> 04:02:24,700
director of planning building

6878
04:02:24,700 --> 04:02:25,210
code enforcement. I'm joined

6879
04:02:25,210 --> 04:02:28,170
here today by mira sand here,

6880
04:02:28,170 --> 04:02:30,600
deputy director of planning and

6881
04:02:30,600 --> 04:02:32,300
then ruth cueto and jared

6882
04:02:32,300 --> 04:02:34,200
ferguson who are our principal

6883
04:02:34,200 --> 04:02:36,220
planners within our citywide

6884
04:02:36,220 --> 04:02:38,150
planning team and have really

6885
04:02:38,150 --> 04:02:41,200
been the leads on this effort.

6886
04:02:41,200 --> 04:02:44,400
so today we're here to present

6887
04:02:44,400 --> 04:02:45,700
our recommended policy

6888
04:02:45,700 --> 04:02:46,210
framework for our four year

6889
04:02:46,210 --> 04:02:49,600
review of the general plan

6890
04:02:49,600 --> 04:02:50,180
before we get into the

6891
04:02:50,180 --> 04:02:51,280
specifics, I just wanted to

6892
04:02:51,280 --> 04:02:53,300
talk about where we are in the

6893
04:02:53,300 --> 04:02:54,130
process and what it is that

6894
04:02:54,130 --> 04:02:55,260
we're asking the city council

6895
04:02:55,260 --> 04:02:58,140
to do today. Today's action,

6896
04:02:58,140 --> 04:03:00,300
just to be clear does not amend

6897
04:03:00,300 --> 04:03:01,110
our general plan. It doesn't

6898
04:03:01,110 --> 04:03:03,600
change the zoning

6899
04:03:03,600 --> 04:03:04,150
of residential properties and

6900
04:03:04,150 --> 04:03:05,130
it would not approve

6901
04:03:05,130 --> 04:03:07,000
development projects or in

6902
04:03:07,000 --> 04:03:09,170
title any particular parcel.

6903
04:03:09,170 --> 04:03:10,200
what we're asking the city

6904
04:03:10,200 --> 04:03:12,000
council to do today is to

6905
04:03:12,000 --> 04:03:13,200
provide us with direction on

6906
04:03:13,200 --> 04:03:14,260
the policies staff should

6907
04:03:14,260 --> 04:03:17,160
develop and analyze and then

6908
04:03:17,160 --> 04:03:18,180
bring back for formal

6909
04:03:18,180 --> 04:03:20,180
consideration the proposed

6910
04:03:21,600 --> 04:03:22,260
general plan amendments, zoning

6911
04:03:22,260 --> 04:03:24,230
changes and development

6912
04:03:24,230 --> 04:03:25,220
standards and then all the

6913
04:03:25,220 --> 04:03:27,130
supporting analysis for the

6914
04:03:27,130 --> 04:03:28,160
environmental work would then

6915
04:03:28,160 --> 04:03:29,150
return to the planning

6916
04:03:29,150 --> 04:03:31,800
commission and the city council

6917
04:03:31,800 --> 04:03:32,200
for public hearings in december

6918
04:03:32,200 --> 04:03:34,100
of 27 and they want to

6919
04:03:34,100 --> 04:03:36,600
highlight that as we continue.

6920
04:03:36,600 --> 04:03:37,700
I want to highlight that

6921
04:03:37,700 --> 04:03:39,120
because we continue to receive

6922
04:03:39,120 --> 04:03:40,190
as you can see considerable

6923
04:03:40,190 --> 04:03:42,140
additional input from residents

6924
04:03:42,140 --> 04:03:44,400
particularly about small

6925
04:03:44,400 --> 04:03:46,500
multifamily or what we call our

6926
04:03:46,500 --> 04:03:47,200
missing middle portion of this

6927
04:03:47,200 --> 04:03:50,260
work a a lot of that feedback

6928
04:03:50,260 --> 04:03:51,230
that we've received has

6929
04:03:51,230 --> 04:03:53,110
centered around the scale

6930
04:03:53,110 --> 04:03:54,260
of future development and its

6931
04:03:54,260 --> 04:03:56,426
direct impacts on immediate

6932
04:03:57,120 --> 04:03:58,180
neighbors and then the

6933
04:03:58,180 --> 04:04:00,700
cumulative effect of change

6934
04:04:00,700 --> 04:04:01,160
within our residential single

6935
04:04:01,160 --> 04:04:03,700
family neighborhoods. And so

6936
04:04:03,700 --> 04:04:03,260
you know I just want to be

6937
04:04:03,260 --> 04:04:04,290
clear that today is not the end

6938
04:04:04,290 --> 04:04:07,300
of that conversation. You know,

6939
04:04:07,300 --> 04:04:10,300
it's very much that we're

6940
04:04:10,300 --> 04:04:11,800
asking council to determine

6941
04:04:11,800 --> 04:04:13,110
what staff should go study and

6942
04:04:13,110 --> 04:04:14,800
what issues need to be

6943
04:04:14,800 --> 04:04:15,120
addressed before a final

6944
04:04:15,120 --> 04:04:18,100
decision is made. Okay. So why

6945
04:04:18,100 --> 04:04:21,200
now? So this work is part of a

6946
04:04:21,200 --> 04:04:23,000
longer housing planning process

6947
04:04:23,000 --> 04:04:25,300
that the city undertakes. It

6948
04:04:25,300 --> 04:04:27,180
began with the adoption of the

6949
04:04:27,180 --> 04:04:29,000
sixth cycle of a housing

6950
04:04:29,000 --> 04:04:30,600
element and then the

6951
04:04:30,600 --> 04:04:32,190
certification by the state's

6952
04:04:32,190 --> 04:04:33,230
department of housing and

6953
04:04:33,230 --> 04:04:35,600
community development that

6954
04:04:35,600 --> 04:04:37,406
occurred back in early 2023

6955
04:04:38,210 --> 04:04:41,150
city council saw this in 2022

6956
04:04:41,150 --> 04:04:42,230
when we often talk about the

6957
04:04:42,230 --> 04:04:44,150
housing element a lot of people

6958
04:04:44,150 --> 04:04:45,100
think about the regional

6959
04:04:45,100 --> 04:04:47,000
housing needs allocation number

6960
04:04:47,000 --> 04:04:49,230
that's the 62,000 residential

6961
04:04:49,230 --> 04:04:51,800
unit number that you often hear

6962
04:04:51,800 --> 04:04:53,150
spoken about. But the document

6963
04:04:53,150 --> 04:04:55,415
itself also includes over 90

6964
04:04:56,150 --> 04:04:57,250
policies that the city

6965
04:04:57,250 --> 04:04:59,100
committed to undertake to

6966
04:04:59,100 --> 04:05:00,150
promote the availability and

6967
04:05:00,150 --> 04:05:02,600
the diversity of housing

6968
04:05:02,600 --> 04:05:04,120
throughout san jose. Our most

6969
04:05:04,120 --> 04:05:06,800
recent housing element included

6970
04:05:06,800 --> 04:05:08,110
commitments to create the small

6971
04:05:08,110 --> 04:05:09,110
multifamily housing

6972
04:05:09,110 --> 04:05:11,600
opportunities as well as to

6973
04:05:11,600 --> 04:05:12,220
update our urban village

6974
04:05:12,220 --> 04:05:14,210
strategy which we'll touch on

6975
04:05:14,210 --> 04:05:17,600
as well. We'll as I said refer

6976
04:05:17,600 --> 04:05:19,210
to it multiple times throughout

6977
04:05:19,210 --> 04:05:22,100
this presentation. They're the

6978
04:05:22,100 --> 04:05:23,600
agency with the state that's

6979
04:05:23,600 --> 04:05:24,400
responsible for the

6980
04:05:24,400 --> 04:05:25,240
certification but also the

6981
04:05:25,240 --> 04:05:27,200
monitoring of the

6982
04:05:27,200 --> 04:05:29,200
municipalities housing elements

6983
04:05:30,140 --> 04:05:31,190
and they've made it very clear

6984
04:05:31,190 --> 04:05:32,170
that they'll continue to

6985
04:05:32,170 --> 04:05:33,120
monitor the city's

6986
04:05:33,120 --> 04:05:34,140
implementation of those

6987
04:05:34,140 --> 04:05:35,150
commitments throughout this

6988
04:05:35,150 --> 04:05:37,210
period. At the same time we're

6989
04:05:37,210 --> 04:05:39,500
looking to prepare for our next

6990
04:05:39,500 --> 04:05:40,150
housing element. That cycle

6991
04:05:40,150 --> 04:05:43,150
will run from 2031 to 2039 and

6992
04:05:45,000 --> 04:05:46,280
that's due to the state well it

6993
04:05:46,280 --> 04:05:48,150
needs to be certified by the

6994
04:05:48,150 --> 04:05:50,190
state prior to january 31st

6995
04:05:50,190 --> 04:05:53,700
of 2031. You know big picture

6996
04:05:53,700 --> 04:05:56,190
land use planning like this and

6997
04:05:56,190 --> 04:05:57,270
the type of decisions that are

6998
04:05:57,270 --> 04:05:59,700
needed to support a housing

6999
04:05:59,700 --> 04:06:01,110
element at this scale can't

7000
04:06:01,110 --> 04:06:03,500
just be done the last minute.

7001
04:06:03,500 --> 04:06:04,900
really what we're looking at is

7002
04:06:04,900 --> 04:06:05,240
major general plan amendments,

7003
04:06:05,240 --> 04:06:07,120
zoning changes, environmental

7004
04:06:07,120 --> 04:06:08,230
review as well as

7005
04:06:08,230 --> 04:06:10,900
infrastructure planning and all

7006
04:06:10,900 --> 04:06:11,210
of the community engagement

7007
04:06:11,210 --> 04:06:12,150
that needs to happen

7008
04:06:12,150 --> 04:06:14,130
sequentially. And so that's why

7009
04:06:14,130 --> 04:06:15,260
we're undertaking this review

7010
04:06:15,260 --> 04:06:17,700
right now at the midpoint

7011
04:06:17,700 --> 04:06:18,150
between those two housing

7012
04:06:18,150 --> 04:06:21,210
elements. So we're just trying

7013
04:06:21,210 --> 04:06:22,260
to give you a sense of the

7014
04:06:22,260 --> 04:06:24,180
overall timeline and put

7015
04:06:24,180 --> 04:06:26,280
today's decision in perspective

7016
04:06:26,280 --> 04:06:28,000
of the current housing element.

7017
04:06:28,000 --> 04:06:29,700
establish those commitments

7018
04:06:29,700 --> 04:06:31,700
that I spoke to council that

7019
04:06:31,700 --> 04:06:33,000
approved the scope of the full

7020
04:06:33,000 --> 04:06:36,600
year review in june of 2025. It

7021
04:06:36,600 --> 04:06:38,250
was a reduced scope and

7022
04:06:38,250 --> 04:06:40,220
direction and also included

7023
04:06:40,220 --> 04:06:42,600
using the planning commission

7024
04:06:42,600 --> 04:06:43,180
as the task force for this

7025
04:06:43,180 --> 04:06:45,120
particular four year review

7026
04:06:45,120 --> 04:06:46,280
which is different from the two

7027
04:06:46,280 --> 04:06:48,140
prior iterations that we had

7028
04:06:48,140 --> 04:06:50,260
completed and then we proceeded

7029
04:06:50,260 --> 04:06:51,290
to have them meet in that

7030
04:06:51,290 --> 04:06:53,290
compressed timeline between

7031
04:06:54,120 --> 04:06:55,250
october of 2025 and june

7032
04:06:55,250 --> 04:06:58,625
of 2026. So today is council is

7033
04:06:59,130 --> 04:07:00,160
considering that policy

7034
04:07:00,160 --> 04:07:02,130
framework as you then provide

7035
04:07:02,130 --> 04:07:04,500
us direction we'll begin the

7036
04:07:04,500 --> 04:07:06,500
environmental review process,

7037
04:07:06,500 --> 04:07:07,190
prepare all of the

7038
04:07:07,190 --> 04:07:08,240
documentation and zoning

7039
04:07:08,240 --> 04:07:09,250
amendments, the general plan

7040
04:07:09,250 --> 04:07:11,180
amendments and then develop the

7041
04:07:11,180 --> 04:07:13,418
actual program standards while

7042
04:07:14,600 --> 04:07:16,000
continuing to engage with the

7043
04:07:16,000 --> 04:07:18,180
public through the fall of 2027

7044
04:07:18,180 --> 04:07:20,200
we anticipate to be back in

7045
04:07:20,200 --> 04:07:21,290
full in front of council

7046
04:07:21,290 --> 04:07:23,429
probably by december of 2027

7047
04:07:24,300 --> 04:07:26,150
with the actual decisions the

7048
04:07:26,150 --> 04:07:29,100
proposed amendments I'm sorry.

7049
04:07:29,100 --> 04:07:31,210
yes. By december 27th and that

7050
04:07:31,210 --> 04:07:33,100
work will help us establish the

7051
04:07:33,100 --> 04:07:34,160
land use foundation for that

7052
04:07:34,160 --> 04:07:36,220
next housing element. And so

7053
04:07:36,220 --> 04:07:38,000
the reason that we're targeting

7054
04:07:38,000 --> 04:07:39,220
2027 is our last housing

7055
04:07:39,220 --> 04:07:41,160
element took us approximately

7056
04:07:41,160 --> 04:07:42,140
two and a half years to

7057
04:07:42,140 --> 04:07:44,170
complete and then we have an

7058
04:07:44,170 --> 04:07:45,270
additional sort of work with

7059
04:07:45,270 --> 04:07:48,100
hpd to actually get that done

7060
04:07:48,100 --> 04:07:49,140
and over the goal line before

7061
04:07:49,140 --> 04:07:52,110
january of 31. So this process

7062
04:07:52,110 --> 04:07:53,270
very much has a beginning, very

7063
04:07:53,270 --> 04:07:55,190
much has a middle and an ending

7064
04:07:55,190 --> 04:07:56,290
and right now we're kind of in

7065
04:07:56,290 --> 04:07:59,629
that middle phase. So just to

7066
04:08:00,700 --> 04:08:01,270
review the scope that council

7067
04:08:01,270 --> 04:08:04,200
gave us and we stuck fairly

7068
04:08:04,200 --> 04:08:06,300
well within that scope it did

7069
04:08:06,300 --> 04:08:08,160
expand slightly but first we

7070
04:08:08,160 --> 04:08:09,200
wanted to look at increasing

7071
04:08:09,200 --> 04:08:11,300
the residential capacity so the

7072
04:08:11,300 --> 04:08:12,150
current general plan plan for

7073
04:08:12,150 --> 04:08:14,150
about 120,000 residential units

7074
04:08:15,400 --> 04:08:17,700
the 62,000 units in the current

7075
04:08:17,700 --> 04:08:18,150
housing element pretty much

7076
04:08:18,150 --> 04:08:19,250
got us there on the total

7077
04:08:19,250 --> 04:08:21,100
capacity. So that we know by

7078
04:08:21,100 --> 04:08:23,160
2031 we're going to have to

7079
04:08:23,160 --> 04:08:25,100
identify additional units

7080
04:08:25,100 --> 04:08:26,220
throughout the city to meet the

7081
04:08:26,220 --> 04:08:29,160
state's goals. Secondly, the

7082
04:08:29,160 --> 04:08:30,270
scope was intended to help us

7083
04:08:30,270 --> 04:08:32,160
maintain an appropriate balance

7084
04:08:32,160 --> 04:08:33,230
between the number of jobs in

7085
04:08:33,230 --> 04:08:34,230
the city as well as the

7086
04:08:34,230 --> 04:08:36,800
employed residents. That's a

7087
04:08:36,800 --> 04:08:38,110
core element of our general

7088
04:08:38,110 --> 04:08:41,260
plan and then third and fourth

7089
04:08:41,260 --> 04:08:43,000
with the two commitments that

7090
04:08:43,000 --> 04:08:44,120
we made in the prior housing

7091
04:08:44,120 --> 04:08:46,900
element. So firstly that small

7092
04:08:46,900 --> 04:08:48,250
multifamily housing program and

7093
04:08:48,250 --> 04:08:50,150
then lastly updating our urban

7094
04:08:50,150 --> 04:08:51,240
village strategy which was a

7095
04:08:51,240 --> 04:08:53,424
commitment under program 40 and

7096
04:08:55,500 --> 04:08:56,240
the housing element. And so

7097
04:08:56,240 --> 04:08:58,600
each of these elements really

7098
04:08:58,600 --> 04:08:59,190
addressed a different part

7099
04:08:59,190 --> 04:09:00,280
of san jose's long term growth

7100
04:09:00,280 --> 04:09:02,200
strategy and the common

7101
04:09:02,200 --> 04:09:04,600
question throughout is how the

7102
04:09:04,600 --> 04:09:05,800
city can accommodate its

7103
04:09:05,800 --> 04:09:06,270
housing obligations while

7104
04:09:06,270 --> 04:09:08,500
continuing to plan for the

7105
04:09:08,500 --> 04:09:10,000
infrastructure, employment

7106
04:09:10,000 --> 04:09:12,000
services and complete

7107
04:09:12,200 --> 04:09:14,200
neighborhoods that we aspire

7108
04:09:14,200 --> 04:09:17,200
to. So the recommendations were

7109
04:09:18,140 --> 04:09:19,900
developed through that

7110
04:09:19,900 --> 04:09:21,190
taskforce process. We included

7111
04:09:21,190 --> 04:09:22,260
the community and stakeholder

7112
04:09:22,260 --> 04:09:24,210
outreach. Obviously staff is

7113
04:09:24,210 --> 04:09:25,220
heavily involved with our

7114
04:09:25,220 --> 04:09:27,190
analysis and then that's

7115
04:09:27,190 --> 04:09:28,200
brought forward through the

7116
04:09:28,200 --> 04:09:29,220
planning commission for their

7117
04:09:29,220 --> 04:09:31,170
consideration. It's really the

7118
04:09:31,170 --> 04:09:32,130
planning commission's

7119
04:09:32,130 --> 04:09:33,210
recommendation based on the

7120
04:09:33,210 --> 04:09:35,180
taskforce recommendation that

7121
04:09:35,180 --> 04:09:37,190
we're presenting today.

7122
04:09:37,190 --> 04:09:38,100
obviously the planning

7123
04:09:38,100 --> 04:09:39,170
commission wasn't asked about

7124
04:09:39,170 --> 04:09:41,400
final ordinance language. We

7125
04:09:41,400 --> 04:09:43,600
didn't get into details on many

7126
04:09:43,600 --> 04:09:44,220
of these programs. It was

7127
04:09:44,220 --> 04:09:45,250
really recommending the

7128
04:09:45,250 --> 04:09:47,220
structure of the framework that

7129
04:09:47,220 --> 04:09:49,700
staff can then use to begin

7130
04:09:49,700 --> 04:09:50,220
preparing all of the language

7131
04:09:50,220 --> 04:09:53,000
that will come back later that

7132
04:09:53,000 --> 04:09:54,800
the same is true for council's

7133
04:09:54,800 --> 04:09:55,200
action today and that framework

7134
04:09:55,200 --> 04:09:57,120
really establish all of the

7135
04:09:57,120 --> 04:10:00,000
issues that we need to analyze.

7136
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:01,500
it certainly doesn't settle

7137
04:10:01,500 --> 04:10:02,230
every one of the design

7138
04:10:02,230 --> 04:10:04,800
standards or the geographic

7139
04:10:04,800 --> 04:10:05,280
considerations or even the

7140
04:10:05,280 --> 04:10:07,400
development requirements that

7141
04:10:07,400 --> 04:10:08,110
we expect to come from this

7142
04:10:08,110 --> 04:10:10,220
work. Those details will, you

7143
04:10:10,220 --> 04:10:12,500
know, really determine both the

7144
04:10:12,500 --> 04:10:13,270
effects of the program on local

7145
04:10:13,270 --> 04:10:15,190
neighborhoods as well as

7146
04:10:15,190 --> 04:10:16,270
whether it's likely to abuse

7147
04:10:16,270 --> 04:10:18,180
the housing that we are trying

7148
04:10:18,180 --> 04:10:20,260
to achieve and that work all

7149
04:10:20,260 --> 04:10:23,200
really still lies ahead. Okay.

7150
04:10:23,200 --> 04:10:24,290
so I did want to touch very

7151
04:10:24,290 --> 04:10:26,800
briefly on kind of where the

7152
04:10:26,800 --> 04:10:27,160
planning commission landed on

7153
04:10:27,160 --> 04:10:29,180
their recommendations. So the

7154
04:10:29,180 --> 04:10:30,260
planning commission recommended

7155
04:10:30,260 --> 04:10:32,100
moving forward with staff

7156
04:10:32,100 --> 04:10:34,300
changes to the several general

7157
04:10:34,300 --> 04:10:36,140
plan density ranges the land

7158
04:10:36,140 --> 04:10:38,190
use changes along the alameda

7159
04:10:38,190 --> 04:10:40,900
and on certain mixed use

7160
04:10:40,900 --> 04:10:42,409
commercial sites and sb 1333

7161
04:10:43,290 --> 04:10:46,290
sites that we identified. They

7162
04:10:47,900 --> 04:10:48,150
forwarded the recommendation

7163
04:10:48,150 --> 04:10:49,280
of a framework for public

7164
04:10:49,280 --> 04:10:51,428
public quayside public lands

7165
04:10:52,500 --> 04:10:54,600
throughout the city as well as

7166
04:10:54,600 --> 04:10:56,400
the update to the urban village

7167
04:10:56,400 --> 04:10:57,500
strategy and the small

7168
04:10:57,500 --> 04:10:59,290
multifamily program. They also

7169
04:10:59,290 --> 04:11:01,000
agreed with staff's

7170
04:11:01,000 --> 04:11:02,160
recommendation to maintain the

7171
04:11:02,160 --> 04:11:03,210
current jobs to employed

7172
04:11:03,210 --> 04:11:05,421
residents ratio target of 1.1.

7173
04:11:08,230 --> 04:11:11,800
so that's 1.1 jobs for every

7174
04:11:11,800 --> 04:11:12,250
employed resident. The

7175
04:11:12,250 --> 04:11:14,240
commission voted separately.

7176
04:11:14,240 --> 04:11:17,240
next slide on an individual

7177
04:11:18,110 --> 04:11:21,110
items sorry on that previous

7178
04:11:21,120 --> 04:11:23,800
one. And when the commission

7179
04:11:23,800 --> 04:11:24,170
voted they actually took all

7180
04:11:24,170 --> 04:11:26,150
of the items individually and

7181
04:11:26,150 --> 04:11:28,150
voted on each one. So just

7182
04:11:28,150 --> 04:11:30,100
wanted to note that on the

7183
04:11:30,100 --> 04:11:32,700
small multifamily program the

7184
04:11:32,700 --> 04:11:34,700
commission voted 9 to 2

7185
04:11:34,170 --> 04:11:36,250
recommend approval of that.

7186
04:11:36,250 --> 04:11:39,000
they did not they were not able

7187
04:11:39,000 --> 04:11:40,190
to get to a majority

7188
04:11:40,190 --> 04:11:42,500
recommendation on the proposed

7189
04:11:42,500 --> 04:11:43,200
winchester boulevard land use

7190
04:11:43,200 --> 04:11:45,420
changes. Therefore council has

7191
04:11:46,400 --> 04:11:48,130
the staff recommendation that

7192
04:11:48,130 --> 04:11:50,140
was presented to the task force

7193
04:11:50,140 --> 04:11:52,110
and the planning commission and

7194
04:11:52,110 --> 04:11:53,400
then obviously there are

7195
04:11:53,400 --> 04:11:55,300
alternatives described in the

7196
04:11:55,300 --> 04:11:56,300
memorandum from the

7197
04:11:56,300 --> 04:11:58,260
councilmembers. Okay. So I

7198
04:11:58,260 --> 04:12:00,130
wanted to spend the majority

7199
04:12:00,130 --> 04:12:01,280
of our time just discussing the

7200
04:12:01,280 --> 04:12:03,180
small multifamily housing

7201
04:12:03,180 --> 04:12:05,418
program because obviously this

7202
04:12:06,200 --> 04:12:07,290
is the portion of the work

7203
04:12:07,290 --> 04:12:09,270
that's really garnered the

7204
04:12:09,270 --> 04:12:12,270
greatest public interest at its

7205
04:12:13,100 --> 04:12:14,260
most basic version missing

7206
04:12:14,260 --> 04:12:16,500
middle housing refers to

7207
04:12:16,500 --> 04:12:18,600
housing forms somewhere between

7208
04:12:18,600 --> 04:12:20,110
a detached single family home

7209
04:12:20,110 --> 04:12:22,160
and a larger apartment building

7210
04:12:22,160 --> 04:12:24,600
and that may include, you know,

7211
04:12:24,600 --> 04:12:25,180
different types of housing such

7212
04:12:25,180 --> 04:12:27,418
as duplexes fourplex townhomes

7213
04:12:28,200 --> 04:12:30,600
or even sort of small apartment

7214
04:12:30,600 --> 04:12:33,600
buildings on larger lots. But

7215
04:12:33,210 --> 04:12:34,270
it's really designed at a

7216
04:12:34,270 --> 04:12:36,900
neighborhood scale, right? It's

7217
04:12:36,900 --> 04:12:37,190
intended to integrate with

7218
04:12:37,190 --> 04:12:39,140
existing neighborhoods. The

7219
04:12:39,140 --> 04:12:41,000
policy objective is to really

7220
04:12:41,000 --> 04:12:43,100
create more housing choices in

7221
04:12:43,100 --> 04:12:44,400
parts of the city where those

7222
04:12:44,400 --> 04:12:45,200
choices are limited somewhat

7223
04:12:45,200 --> 04:12:47,230
today. But obviously how we

7224
04:12:47,230 --> 04:12:49,000
create these standards has a

7225
04:12:49,000 --> 04:12:50,250
significant impact on the

7226
04:12:50,250 --> 04:12:52,000
outcomes for individual

7227
04:12:52,000 --> 04:12:53,500
properties and then the

7228
04:12:53,500 --> 04:12:54,130
surrounding neighborhoods in

7229
04:12:54,130 --> 04:12:56,270
those areas. The final number

7230
04:12:56,270 --> 04:12:58,300
of units on an individual

7231
04:12:58,300 --> 04:12:59,220
property can certainly be

7232
04:12:59,220 --> 04:13:01,300
affected by a number of things

7233
04:13:01,300 --> 04:13:03,100
that include parcel size, you

7234
04:13:03,100 --> 04:13:05,180
know adu requirements and laws,

7235
04:13:05,180 --> 04:13:07,190
density bonus law, how

7236
04:13:07,190 --> 04:13:09,120
properties are subdivided and

7237
04:13:09,120 --> 04:13:10,600
then there are other state

7238
04:13:10,600 --> 04:13:11,900
requirements that we have as a

7239
04:13:11,900 --> 04:13:13,110
consideration. I do want to

7240
04:13:13,110 --> 04:13:14,200
assure the council that you

7241
04:13:14,200 --> 04:13:15,170
know we've tried to be really

7242
04:13:15,170 --> 04:13:17,800
candid about that throughout

7243
04:13:17,800 --> 04:13:18,180
our outreach with the public

7244
04:13:18,180 --> 04:13:19,260
and throughout the task force

7245
04:13:19,260 --> 04:13:21,260
process and as we develop these

7246
04:13:21,260 --> 04:13:24,626
programs. So again, just a note

7247
04:13:25,230 --> 04:13:27,500
and you know I'm sure we'll

7248
04:13:27,500 --> 04:13:28,190
touch on this more as we get

7249
04:13:28,190 --> 04:13:30,130
into questions. Our small

7250
04:13:30,130 --> 04:13:32,700
multifamily housing program is

7251
04:13:32,700 --> 04:13:34,900
not in new obligation. You

7252
04:13:34,900 --> 04:13:35,800
know, this is not the first

7253
04:13:35,800 --> 04:13:36,130
time we introduced it through

7254
04:13:36,130 --> 04:13:38,260
this process. P35 is the

7255
04:13:38,260 --> 04:13:41,800
program in our housing element

7256
04:13:41,800 --> 04:13:42,140
and I just wanted to sort

7257
04:13:42,140 --> 04:13:43,200
of bring this up as a reference

7258
04:13:43,200 --> 04:13:45,220
not only did we include it in

7259
04:13:45,220 --> 04:13:48,150
housing element but it was also

7260
04:13:48,150 --> 04:13:50,000
referenced heavily in the

7261
04:13:50,000 --> 04:13:51,900
certification letter that we

7262
04:13:51,900 --> 04:13:54,400
received from hpd that you

7263
04:13:54,400 --> 04:13:55,210
know, really noted the creation

7264
04:13:55,210 --> 04:13:56,290
of this program as an important

7265
04:13:56,290 --> 04:13:58,290
move for san jose and its

7266
04:13:58,290 --> 04:14:00,429
housing element and the

7267
04:14:01,270 --> 04:14:03,270
included program contemplated

7268
04:14:04,300 --> 04:14:06,600
as written at least four and up

7269
04:14:06,600 --> 04:14:08,300
to ten units in locations

7270
04:14:08,300 --> 04:14:10,500
throughout the city. Those

7271
04:14:10,500 --> 04:14:11,800
commitments don't prescribe

7272
04:14:11,800 --> 04:14:12,200
every detail in the final

7273
04:14:12,200 --> 04:14:14,200
ordinance. They do mean that as

7274
04:14:14,200 --> 04:14:15,270
a city we must develop a

7275
04:14:15,270 --> 04:14:17,120
program that is legally

7276
04:14:17,120 --> 04:14:19,180
adequate and reasonably capable

7277
04:14:19,180 --> 04:14:21,600
of being used to meet those

7278
04:14:21,600 --> 04:14:22,210
obligations and commitments in

7279
04:14:22,210 --> 04:14:24,230
the housing element a program

7280
04:14:24,230 --> 04:14:26,230
that purely exists on paper and

7281
04:14:26,230 --> 04:14:28,600
produces no meaningful new

7282
04:14:28,600 --> 04:14:31,600
housing would not satisfy the

7283
04:14:32,000 --> 04:14:32,260
housing element for the

7284
04:14:32,260 --> 04:14:35,110
purposes of cdw's review and

7285
04:14:35,110 --> 04:14:36,170
that does represent a

7286
04:14:36,170 --> 04:14:38,120
compliance risk which we

7287
04:14:38,120 --> 04:14:39,250
believe is significant in

7288
04:14:39,250 --> 04:14:41,180
recent conversations that we've

7289
04:14:41,180 --> 04:14:44,110
had with the state. Failure to

7290
04:14:44,110 --> 04:14:45,250
implement our commitments in

7291
04:14:45,250 --> 04:14:46,290
the certified housing element

7292
04:14:46,290 --> 04:14:48,800
could expose the city to

7293
04:14:48,800 --> 04:14:50,400
financial penalties and

7294
04:14:50,400 --> 04:14:51,130
potential impacts on our

7295
04:14:51,130 --> 04:14:52,210
ability to approve certain

7296
04:14:52,210 --> 04:14:54,170
permits and ultimately the

7297
04:14:54,170 --> 04:14:56,130
possibility of decertifying our

7298
04:14:56,130 --> 04:14:57,110
housing element and the

7299
04:14:57,110 --> 04:14:59,250
reopening of the city to build

7300
04:14:59,250 --> 04:15:01,425
as remedy applications. You

7301
04:15:02,100 --> 04:15:03,150
know that's not something that

7302
04:15:03,150 --> 04:15:05,280
oecd takes lightly. It's also

7303
04:15:05,280 --> 04:15:06,290
not something that would be

7304
04:15:06,290 --> 04:15:09,900
immediate but it is something

7305
04:15:09,900 --> 04:15:10,270
that we've seen as you know, a

7306
04:15:10,270 --> 04:15:12,600
tool that they've used with

7307
04:15:12,600 --> 04:15:13,120
other communities throughout

7308
04:15:13,120 --> 04:15:16,190
california. I just want to be

7309
04:15:16,190 --> 04:15:17,240
clear the council does have

7310
04:15:17,240 --> 04:15:19,300
discretion in you know,

7311
04:15:19,300 --> 04:15:21,600
designing this program but that

7312
04:15:21,600 --> 04:15:22,600
discretion needs to be in the

7313
04:15:22,600 --> 04:15:23,230
context of clear understanding

7314
04:15:23,230 --> 04:15:25,500
that not all the alternatives

7315
04:15:25,500 --> 04:15:27,405
carry equal compliance risk.

7316
04:15:28,900 --> 04:15:29,130
okay. The other thing that I

7317
04:15:29,130 --> 04:15:30,220
think is really important that

7318
04:15:30,220 --> 04:15:32,100
we've been trying to highlight

7319
04:15:32,100 --> 04:15:33,260
through this process is to

7320
04:15:33,260 --> 04:15:35,600
recognize the existing

7321
04:15:35,600 --> 04:15:37,280
condition that we face today

7322
04:15:37,280 --> 04:15:39,200
which is not simply one home on

7323
04:15:39,200 --> 04:15:41,420
every residential parcel over

7324
04:15:42,100 --> 04:15:43,120
the past seven years we've seen

7325
04:15:43,120 --> 04:15:45,130
over 450 bills passed by the

7326
04:15:45,130 --> 04:15:47,220
state that impact our ability

7327
04:15:47,220 --> 04:15:50,230
and the way we approve housing.

7328
04:15:50,230 --> 04:15:52,130
our workers transition

7329
04:15:52,130 --> 04:15:54,413
significantly in that period

7330
04:15:55,200 --> 04:15:55,260
and the state has really

7331
04:15:55,260 --> 04:15:57,600
changed what can occur

7332
04:15:57,600 --> 04:15:58,290
throughout the city. So some

7333
04:15:58,290 --> 04:16:00,110
of the most important bills

7334
04:16:00,110 --> 04:16:01,100
that we deal with in single

7335
04:16:01,100 --> 04:16:03,100
family neighborhoods include

7336
04:16:03,170 --> 04:16:04,240
senate bill nine which allows

7337
04:16:04,240 --> 04:16:06,120
for a qualifying residential

7338
04:16:06,120 --> 04:16:08,150
parcel to accommodate either a

7339
04:16:08,150 --> 04:16:10,240
duplex can be subdivided into

7340
04:16:10,240 --> 04:16:13,500
two parcels or a combination

7341
04:16:13,500 --> 04:16:14,130
that could result in as many as

7342
04:16:14,130 --> 04:16:16,800
four primary units on the

7343
04:16:16,800 --> 04:16:18,290
existing single family lot.

7344
04:16:18,290 --> 04:16:20,290
senate bill 1123 creates

7345
04:16:21,500 --> 04:16:22,900
additional subdivision

7346
04:16:22,900 --> 04:16:23,180
opportunities on either a

7347
04:16:23,180 --> 04:16:25,000
vacant parcel or that's been

7348
04:16:25,000 --> 04:16:26,220
extended to include where you

7349
04:16:26,220 --> 04:16:28,170
can subdivide off the existing

7350
04:16:28,170 --> 04:16:30,700
home and the remainder of the

7351
04:16:30,700 --> 04:16:32,160
lot could accommodate up to ten

7352
04:16:32,160 --> 04:16:35,900
parcels. And then we also have

7353
04:16:35,900 --> 04:16:37,300
adu laws that allow allow

7354
04:16:37,300 --> 04:16:38,220
additional units beyond the

7355
04:16:38,220 --> 04:16:40,250
sort of base density and state

7356
04:16:40,250 --> 04:16:42,600
density bonus laws which can

7357
04:16:42,600 --> 04:16:43,250
increase allowable density and

7358
04:16:43,250 --> 04:16:45,700
provide as we saw in the

7359
04:16:45,700 --> 04:16:46,250
previous project a series

7360
04:16:46,250 --> 04:16:48,250
of waivers from some of our

7361
04:16:48,250 --> 04:16:50,425
local development standards and

7362
04:16:51,100 --> 04:16:52,260
those laws apply whether or not

7363
04:16:52,260 --> 04:16:55,150
san jose creates this program.

7364
04:16:55,150 --> 04:16:56,260
the question is therefore

7365
04:16:56,260 --> 04:16:58,426
really not whether resident

7366
04:16:59,150 --> 04:17:01,100
residential neighborhoods will

7367
04:17:01,100 --> 04:17:03,900
ever change. Some changes

7368
04:17:03,900 --> 04:17:04,250
already permitted by and

7369
04:17:04,250 --> 04:17:06,270
occurring under those existing

7370
04:17:06,270 --> 04:17:08,280
state laws. You know, I think

7371
04:17:08,280 --> 04:17:10,300
what we're trying to do with

7372
04:17:10,300 --> 04:17:12,280
our approach is create a local

7373
04:17:12,280 --> 04:17:14,270
pathway that produces housing

7374
04:17:14,270 --> 04:17:16,220
in a more coordinate gated and

7375
04:17:16,220 --> 04:17:18,422
predictable physical form with

7376
04:17:19,500 --> 04:17:20,800
objective standards that

7377
04:17:20,800 --> 04:17:21,230
address things like height

7378
04:17:21,230 --> 04:17:23,423
setbacks, lock coverage, open

7379
04:17:24,190 --> 04:17:26,170
space privacy access, all

7380
04:17:26,170 --> 04:17:27,700
of those other sort

7381
04:17:27,700 --> 04:17:28,260
of neighborhood conditions that

7382
04:17:28,260 --> 04:17:30,190
can remain within our control

7383
04:17:30,190 --> 04:17:32,160
as we design our own program

7384
04:17:32,160 --> 04:17:34,200
versus being subject to those

7385
04:17:34,200 --> 04:17:36,120
state laws. You know choosing

7386
04:17:36,120 --> 04:17:38,600
not to develop a local program

7387
04:17:38,600 --> 04:17:39,150
doesn't necessarily preserve

7388
04:17:39,150 --> 04:17:40,210
the status quo. I think that's

7389
04:17:40,210 --> 04:17:41,190
the point we're ultimately

7390
04:17:41,190 --> 04:17:43,120
trying to make and we are

7391
04:17:43,120 --> 04:17:44,260
certainly seeing a number

7392
04:17:44,260 --> 04:17:45,220
of these outcomes where

7393
04:17:45,220 --> 04:17:47,100
applicants are coming in and

7394
04:17:47,100 --> 04:17:49,800
layering various state laws in

7395
04:17:49,800 --> 04:17:51,140
different ways to maximize

7396
04:17:51,140 --> 04:17:54,140
their opportunity. So it's

7397
04:17:54,140 --> 04:17:55,170
going to touch a little bit on

7398
04:17:55,170 --> 04:17:57,500
density. I apologize that this

7399
04:17:57,500 --> 04:17:58,290
slide the text is a little

7400
04:17:58,290 --> 04:18:01,700
small. We can certainly dive

7401
04:18:01,700 --> 04:18:02,280
into the details but our

7402
04:18:02,280 --> 04:18:04,180
initial recommendation was to

7403
04:18:04,180 --> 04:18:06,150
evaluate an increase across the

7404
04:18:06,150 --> 04:18:07,120
residential neighborhood

7405
04:18:07,120 --> 04:18:10,000
designation to go from eight

7406
04:18:10,000 --> 04:18:12,250
units per acre to 32 dwelling

7407
04:18:12,250 --> 04:18:15,700
units per acre. So a typical

7408
04:18:15,700 --> 04:18:16,280
residential parcel throughout

7409
04:18:16,280 --> 04:18:19,280
san jose is somewhere between 5

7410
04:18:20,300 --> 04:18:22,190
and 6000ft². So if you see on

7411
04:18:22,190 --> 04:18:24,210
this chart between 3000 and

7412
04:18:24,210 --> 04:18:27,150
8000ft² you've got 84% of all

7413
04:18:27,150 --> 04:18:28,210
single family residential

7414
04:18:28,210 --> 04:18:31,300
parcels throughout the city. So

7415
04:18:31,300 --> 04:18:32,170
really what we're aiming for is

7416
04:18:32,170 --> 04:18:35,617
to raise that that base density

7417
04:18:36,100 --> 04:18:38,000
to allow for units on the vast

7418
04:18:38,000 --> 04:18:40,200
majority of parcels. I do want

7419
04:18:40,200 --> 04:18:41,600
to acknowledge as you'll see

7420
04:18:41,600 --> 04:18:42,500
at the bottom of that chart

7421
04:18:42,500 --> 04:18:44,300
that state adu requirements can

7422
04:18:44,300 --> 04:18:45,210
affect the potential total

7423
04:18:45,210 --> 04:18:47,200
number of units and we also

7424
04:18:47,200 --> 04:18:49,700
deal with state density bonus

7425
04:18:49,700 --> 04:18:51,150
on certain lots that requires

7426
04:18:51,150 --> 04:18:53,150
more units to start with but

7427
04:18:53,150 --> 04:18:55,300
that can affect the number

7428
04:18:55,300 --> 04:18:56,700
further for qualifying

7429
04:18:56,700 --> 04:18:58,270
projects. But ultimately when

7430
04:18:58,270 --> 04:19:00,400
you think about the vast

7431
04:19:00,400 --> 04:19:01,190
majority of parcels throughout

7432
04:19:01,190 --> 04:19:04,500
the city size constraints for

7433
04:19:04,500 --> 04:19:07,200
primary units you know will

7434
04:19:07,200 --> 04:19:08,270
ultimately limit how how they

7435
04:19:08,270 --> 04:19:10,300
will build out and what we will

7436
04:19:10,300 --> 04:19:13,300
ultimately see in these areas

7437
04:19:13,140 --> 04:19:15,600
beyond that number, obviously

7438
04:19:15,600 --> 04:19:16,400
there's a lot of work to be

7439
04:19:16,400 --> 04:19:17,100
done around development

7440
04:19:17,100 --> 04:19:18,260
standards so how can people

7441
04:19:18,260 --> 04:19:20,500
actually build and I think this

7442
04:19:20,500 --> 04:19:22,200
is the crux of the discussion

7443
04:19:22,200 --> 04:19:23,110
is these are the things that we

7444
04:19:23,110 --> 04:19:25,700
are able to implement as a city

7445
04:19:25,700 --> 04:19:27,300
under our program and have a

7446
04:19:27,300 --> 04:19:28,190
little bit more control. You

7447
04:19:28,190 --> 04:19:29,260
know density is only the one

7448
04:19:29,260 --> 04:19:31,250
part of the program. It's the

7449
04:19:31,250 --> 04:19:33,000
standards that will largely

7450
04:19:33,000 --> 04:19:34,140
determine what housing looks

7451
04:19:34,140 --> 04:19:35,260
like and feels like on the

7452
04:19:35,260 --> 04:19:37,426
ground. The current framework

7453
04:19:38,300 --> 04:19:40,200
would retain the existing

7454
04:19:40,200 --> 04:19:41,110
height limit in residential

7455
04:19:41,110 --> 04:19:43,230
neighborhood which is 35ft.

7456
04:19:43,230 --> 04:19:45,800
right now that provision is for

7457
04:19:45,800 --> 04:19:46,280
two and a half stories. We

7458
04:19:46,280 --> 04:19:48,200
would change that to three

7459
04:19:48,200 --> 04:19:49,200
stories. Two and a half means a

7460
04:19:49,200 --> 04:19:51,150
split level home can

7461
04:19:51,150 --> 04:19:52,190
essentially said the same

7462
04:19:52,190 --> 04:19:55,300
height. This allows you to use

7463
04:19:55,300 --> 04:19:56,160
that height more effectively to

7464
04:19:56,160 --> 04:19:58,210
use three stories and I have

7465
04:19:58,210 --> 04:20:00,400
some examples I'll show in a

7466
04:20:00,400 --> 04:20:02,230
moment just what that means. We

7467
04:20:02,230 --> 04:20:03,260
also develop objective

7468
04:20:03,260 --> 04:20:05,140
standards for setbacks floor

7469
04:20:05,140 --> 04:20:07,200
area ratio, things like lock

7470
04:20:07,200 --> 04:20:09,150
coverage, parcel size whether

7471
04:20:09,150 --> 04:20:11,270
or not we allow a lot mergers

7472
04:20:11,270 --> 04:20:12,270
you know some of the provisions

7473
04:20:12,270 --> 04:20:14,190
around historic properties and

7474
04:20:14,190 --> 04:20:15,230
other physical design

7475
04:20:15,230 --> 04:20:17,210
considerations and obviously

7476
04:20:17,210 --> 04:20:19,210
we've heard a lot about parking

7477
04:20:19,210 --> 04:20:22,210
as a concern as well from

7478
04:20:22,210 --> 04:20:24,150
staff's perspective. We began

7479
04:20:24,150 --> 04:20:25,140
with the city's current

7480
04:20:25,140 --> 04:20:26,270
citywide policy which is we

7481
04:20:26,270 --> 04:20:28,150
currently do not have a minimum

7482
04:20:28,150 --> 04:20:30,180
parking requirement but you

7483
04:20:30,180 --> 04:20:32,210
know, hearing not just from the

7484
04:20:32,210 --> 04:20:34,800
task force but from community

7485
04:20:34,800 --> 04:20:36,800
members and certainly some

7486
04:20:36,800 --> 04:20:37,230
of the memos that we've seen

7487
04:20:37,230 --> 04:20:39,260
from the city council, you

7488
04:20:39,260 --> 04:20:40,260
know, that is one of the things

7489
04:20:40,260 --> 04:20:41,250
that we want to bring into that

7490
04:20:41,250 --> 04:20:43,425
consideration. You know, there

7491
04:20:44,500 --> 04:20:45,120
are certain state laws that

7492
04:20:45,120 --> 04:20:47,200
impact our ability to implement

7493
04:20:47,200 --> 04:20:49,300
parking minimums across the

7494
04:20:49,300 --> 04:20:51,000
city and there's portions

7495
04:20:51,000 --> 04:20:52,120
of the city where because

7496
04:20:52,120 --> 04:20:53,230
of its proximity to transit

7497
04:20:53,230 --> 04:20:55,900
access we will not be able to

7498
04:20:55,900 --> 04:20:57,900
institute new parking minimums.

7499
04:20:57,900 --> 04:20:58,150
but there are parts of the city

7500
04:20:58,150 --> 04:21:00,200
that we can consider that. I

7501
04:21:00,200 --> 04:21:02,170
think just overall in creating

7502
04:21:02,170 --> 04:21:03,240
these programs we just need to

7503
04:21:03,240 --> 04:21:05,210
be mindful of balancing the

7504
04:21:05,210 --> 04:21:07,000
objectives to preserve

7505
04:21:07,000 --> 04:21:08,900
community character which is

7506
04:21:08,900 --> 04:21:09,130
really how we're approaching

7507
04:21:09,130 --> 04:21:11,220
this against standards that are

7508
04:21:11,220 --> 04:21:13,400
so restrictive that parcels

7509
04:21:13,400 --> 04:21:14,160
can't be built at all because

7510
04:21:14,160 --> 04:21:16,250
we know will run afoul of hpd

7511
04:21:16,250 --> 04:21:19,200
on that the work between now

7512
04:21:19,200 --> 04:21:20,270
and 2027 is really finding that

7513
04:21:20,270 --> 04:21:23,100
balance and a program that the

7514
04:21:23,100 --> 04:21:25,160
market could actually use you

7515
04:21:25,160 --> 04:21:26,150
know, with the strongest

7516
04:21:26,150 --> 04:21:28,100
locally enforceable standards

7517
04:21:28,100 --> 04:21:28,270
that we can reasonably

7518
04:21:28,270 --> 04:21:31,400
establish. We also need to look

7519
04:21:31,400 --> 04:21:33,700
sort of beyond the individual

7520
04:21:33,700 --> 04:21:35,800
parcel, you know, and think

7521
04:21:35,800 --> 04:21:36,120
about some of the bigger

7522
04:21:36,120 --> 04:21:37,180
issues. And again I think this

7523
04:21:37,180 --> 04:21:38,120
relates to the prior

7524
04:21:38,120 --> 04:21:40,900
conversation. So as we see

7525
04:21:40,900 --> 04:21:41,270
residential capacity increase

7526
04:21:41,270 --> 04:21:43,180
throughout the city, we need to

7527
04:21:43,180 --> 04:21:45,140
consider cumulative effects on

7528
04:21:45,140 --> 04:21:47,140
transportation, on utilities,

7529
04:21:47,170 --> 04:21:49,100
parks, schools, emergency

7530
04:21:49,100 --> 04:21:51,400
response as well as other

7531
04:21:51,400 --> 04:21:52,120
infrastructure. And again

7532
04:21:52,120 --> 04:21:53,140
that's much of the work that

7533
04:21:53,140 --> 04:21:55,900
occurs between now and the end

7534
04:21:55,900 --> 04:21:58,150
of 2027 and we also want to

7535
04:21:58,150 --> 04:22:00,280
make sure that we're evaluating

7536
04:22:00,280 --> 04:22:02,000
whether other general plan

7537
04:22:02,000 --> 04:22:04,400
policies ensure that new

7538
04:22:04,400 --> 04:22:05,140
development can reasonably

7539
04:22:05,140 --> 04:22:06,280
contribute to the services and

7540
04:22:06,280 --> 04:22:08,700
infrastructure that the

7541
04:22:08,700 --> 04:22:11,607
residents will need. Okay. So I

7542
04:22:12,700 --> 04:22:13,110
just wanted to highlight just a

7543
04:22:13,110 --> 04:22:14,270
couple of examples. Now these

7544
04:22:14,270 --> 04:22:16,280
are examples in san jose.

7545
04:22:16,280 --> 04:22:17,240
they're not currently in

7546
04:22:17,240 --> 04:22:18,220
residential neighborhood

7547
04:22:18,220 --> 04:22:19,250
because this is the change

7548
04:22:19,250 --> 04:22:21,140
we're proposing but there are

7549
04:22:21,140 --> 04:22:23,400
adjacent to existing single

7550
04:22:23,400 --> 04:22:25,000
family neighborhoods so this

7551
04:22:25,000 --> 04:22:27,210
property is 39 lester avenue.

7552
04:22:27,210 --> 04:22:29,150
this is a 40 500 square foot

7553
04:22:29,150 --> 04:22:31,250
parcel. There's three units

7554
04:22:31,250 --> 04:22:33,900
they have four parking spaces.

7555
04:22:33,900 --> 04:22:34,280
the height of this building is

7556
04:22:34,280 --> 04:22:36,210
actually just above right? So

7557
04:22:36,210 --> 04:22:38,240
you know, this is again not in

7558
04:22:38,240 --> 04:22:40,700
a residential neighborhood so

7559
04:22:40,700 --> 04:22:41,160
you know, standards wouldn't

7560
04:22:41,160 --> 04:22:42,150
allow this. It would be

7561
04:22:42,150 --> 04:22:44,110
slightly lower. But so the

7562
04:22:44,110 --> 04:22:46,130
density of what this project is

7563
04:22:46,130 --> 04:22:48,200
is about 30 units to the acre

7564
04:22:48,200 --> 04:22:49,170
right now. So it just gives you

7565
04:22:49,170 --> 04:22:51,800
a sense of the scale of that

7566
04:22:51,800 --> 04:22:53,170
type of development. The next

7567
04:22:53,170 --> 04:22:56,700
example this is on park avenue

7568
04:22:56,700 --> 04:22:58,180
at 1945 park. Again we sort

7569
04:22:58,180 --> 04:22:59,290
of took a slightly zoomed out

7570
04:22:59,290 --> 04:23:01,800
version and you can kind of see

7571
04:23:01,800 --> 04:23:02,160
how the lot relates to the

7572
04:23:02,160 --> 04:23:05,300
surrounding area. This is a

7573
04:23:05,300 --> 04:23:06,150
larger lot. This is almost an

7574
04:23:06,150 --> 04:23:09,150
8000 foot lot and again, you

7575
04:23:09,170 --> 04:23:10,220
know the market's coming in to

7576
04:23:10,220 --> 04:23:12,100
really dictate how they

7577
04:23:12,100 --> 04:23:13,120
approach development on these

7578
04:23:13,120 --> 04:23:15,140
in this instance it's a three

7579
04:23:15,140 --> 04:23:17,210
unit project so this is you

7580
04:23:17,210 --> 04:23:19,130
know, lower this is 17 units to

7581
04:23:19,130 --> 04:23:21,170
the acre but this is what the

7582
04:23:21,170 --> 04:23:23,210
developer at the time felt like

7583
04:23:23,210 --> 04:23:25,300
was applicable. I think just

7584
04:23:25,300 --> 04:23:26,200
the important thing as we talk

7585
04:23:26,200 --> 04:23:27,400
about those standards the

7586
04:23:27,400 --> 04:23:28,110
difference between two and a

7587
04:23:28,110 --> 04:23:30,150
half stories and three stories

7588
04:23:30,150 --> 04:23:32,100
is the three stories allow that

7589
04:23:32,100 --> 04:23:33,140
parking to be on the ground

7590
04:23:33,140 --> 04:23:35,200
floor, right? And then you get

7591
04:23:35,200 --> 04:23:37,100
two livable stories above it.

7592
04:23:37,100 --> 04:23:38,800
and so that's how it's being

7593
04:23:38,800 --> 04:23:39,800
accommodated in that

7594
04:23:39,800 --> 04:23:40,290
configuration. Those are

7595
04:23:40,290 --> 04:23:43,629
separate so I just wanted to

7596
04:23:44,800 --> 04:23:46,140
finish on some next steps and

7597
04:23:46,140 --> 04:23:49,614
our timeline I think for the

7598
04:23:50,200 --> 04:23:52,100
next I know you could if

7599
04:23:52,100 --> 04:23:53,150
council provides direction

7600
04:23:53,150 --> 04:23:55,280
today staff will prepare draft

7601
04:23:55,280 --> 04:23:57,428
general plan amendments, zoning

7602
04:23:58,140 --> 04:23:59,290
ordinance changes objective

7603
04:23:59,290 --> 04:24:01,600
development standards and

7604
04:24:01,600 --> 04:24:03,600
environmental analysis will

7605
04:24:03,180 --> 04:24:04,280
continue to do engagement with

7606
04:24:04,280 --> 04:24:06,220
the community with residents as

7607
04:24:06,220 --> 04:24:08,500
well as property owners,

7608
04:24:08,500 --> 04:24:09,170
housing advocates, developers,

7609
04:24:09,170 --> 04:24:11,120
neighborhood organizations and

7610
04:24:11,120 --> 04:24:13,120
other affected stakeholders.

7611
04:24:13,210 --> 04:24:15,240
when this work returns in 2027,

7612
04:24:15,240 --> 04:24:17,500
council will have the actual

7613
04:24:17,500 --> 04:24:19,120
proposed policy language and we

7614
04:24:19,120 --> 04:24:20,300
will be looking for

7615
04:24:20,300 --> 04:24:21,270
opportunities to engage with

7616
04:24:21,270 --> 04:24:23,800
committee and council in

7617
04:24:23,800 --> 04:24:25,170
advance of that we'll also have

7618
04:24:25,170 --> 04:24:27,220
the environmental analysis and

7619
04:24:27,220 --> 04:24:28,210
the results of additional

7620
04:24:28,210 --> 04:24:29,260
outreach and a clearer

7621
04:24:29,260 --> 04:24:31,130
understanding of the kind

7622
04:24:31,130 --> 04:24:33,000
of legal, physical and economic

7623
04:24:33,000 --> 04:24:34,000
implications of the

7624
04:24:34,000 --> 04:24:35,250
alternatives. And really that's

7625
04:24:35,250 --> 04:24:37,120
the point when council will

7626
04:24:37,120 --> 04:24:39,230
decide what to adopt. The

7627
04:24:39,230 --> 04:24:41,300
additional constraint I do just

7628
04:24:41,300 --> 04:24:42,190
want to touch on and then I'm

7629
04:24:42,190 --> 04:24:43,190
going to talk a little bit

7630
04:24:43,190 --> 04:24:45,700
about some of the memos that

7631
04:24:45,700 --> 04:24:47,800
council put forward is

7632
04:24:47,800 --> 04:24:49,800
obviously the other

7633
04:24:49,280 --> 04:24:51,700
consideration we have as we

7634
04:24:51,700 --> 04:24:53,200
go into the next phase

7635
04:24:53,200 --> 04:24:54,170
of development is staff

7636
04:24:54,170 --> 04:24:56,250
capacity. You know we have this

7637
04:24:56,250 --> 04:24:58,260
tight time frame and we're

7638
04:24:58,260 --> 04:25:00,400
working towards that formal

7639
04:25:00,400 --> 04:25:02,270
consideration in december of 27

7640
04:25:02,270 --> 04:25:04,230
and the work you know has to

7641
04:25:04,230 --> 04:25:05,290
position the city to begin

7642
04:25:05,290 --> 04:25:07,120
preparing that next housing

7643
04:25:07,120 --> 04:25:09,220
element as we've previously

7644
04:25:09,220 --> 04:25:11,400
discussed, our citywide

7645
04:25:11,400 --> 04:25:12,200
planning capacity is limited.

7646
04:25:12,200 --> 04:25:13,240
we'll be back in front

7647
04:25:13,240 --> 04:25:17,150
of council on october 6th so a

7648
04:25:17,150 --> 04:25:20,000
little over a month to review

7649
04:25:20,000 --> 04:25:21,900
the work plan and talk about

7650
04:25:21,900 --> 04:25:22,180
priorities and so we'll be

7651
04:25:22,180 --> 04:25:24,230
taking all of the work that

7652
04:25:24,230 --> 04:25:26,200
council directs today and

7653
04:25:26,200 --> 04:25:28,100
wrapping it into that analysis

7654
04:25:28,100 --> 04:25:29,190
so we can just show kind

7655
04:25:29,190 --> 04:25:31,180
of where all of that sits. So

7656
04:25:31,180 --> 04:25:32,800
you know, we just want to

7657
04:25:32,800 --> 04:25:33,210
highlight that as we think

7658
04:25:33,210 --> 04:25:34,110
about the different

7659
04:25:34,110 --> 04:25:35,210
alternatives and as we look

7660
04:25:35,210 --> 04:25:36,250
at different things to study

7661
04:25:36,250 --> 04:25:38,260
and evaluate like all of that

7662
04:25:38,260 --> 04:25:40,230
kind of goes into those

7663
04:25:40,230 --> 04:25:42,160
aspects. So we did just want to

7664
04:25:42,160 --> 04:25:44,110
touch briefly on the memos that

7665
04:25:44,110 --> 04:25:46,200
we received from the city

7666
04:25:46,200 --> 04:25:47,170
council just to kind

7667
04:25:47,170 --> 04:25:48,220
of highlight some of the pieces

7668
04:25:48,220 --> 04:25:51,600
in there. So firstly the memo

7669
04:25:51,600 --> 04:25:53,100
from the mayor,

7670
04:25:53,100 --> 04:25:55,120
councilmember campos cohen, the

7671
04:25:55,120 --> 04:25:56,240
vice mayor and

7672
04:25:56,240 --> 04:25:58,270
councilmember casey, you know,

7673
04:25:58,270 --> 04:26:00,600
I think there's a number of the

7674
04:26:00,600 --> 04:26:01,210
recommendations here absolutely

7675
04:26:01,210 --> 04:26:02,240
we can accommodate within the

7676
04:26:02,240 --> 04:26:04,290
analysis such as the parking

7677
04:26:04,290 --> 04:26:07,800
minimums, the reference to the

7678
04:26:07,800 --> 04:26:09,150
pickup work and then the

7679
04:26:09,150 --> 04:26:11,150
neighborhood serving commercial

7680
04:26:11,270 --> 04:26:12,280
and some of the considerations

7681
04:26:12,280 --> 04:26:14,220
there. The two things that we

7682
04:26:14,220 --> 04:26:15,230
just wanted to touch on

7683
04:26:15,230 --> 04:26:17,140
obviously as I was just noting

7684
04:26:17,140 --> 04:26:19,100
on capacity to the extent that

7685
04:26:19,100 --> 04:26:20,110
we could have you know, very

7686
04:26:20,110 --> 04:26:23,280
broad on our ranges that's

7687
04:26:23,280 --> 04:26:25,800
additional analysis that we

7688
04:26:25,800 --> 04:26:26,200
have to do so does potentially

7689
04:26:26,200 --> 04:26:29,500
impact our timeline. We did

7690
04:26:29,500 --> 04:26:32,605
talk to aicd earlier this week

7691
04:26:33,000 --> 04:26:34,400
and I can dive in a little bit

7692
04:26:34,400 --> 04:26:35,100
more about some of those

7693
04:26:35,100 --> 04:26:37,200
conversations but I think one

7694
04:26:37,200 --> 04:26:38,230
of our considerations from that

7695
04:26:38,230 --> 04:26:40,423
conversation is that 16 when

7696
04:26:41,180 --> 04:26:43,600
you think about an 8000 foot

7697
04:26:43,600 --> 04:26:45,120
lot right now gets you a single

7698
04:26:45,120 --> 04:26:48,900
unit at eight to the acre if

7699
04:26:48,900 --> 04:26:50,100
you do a lot split under sb

7700
04:26:50,100 --> 04:26:52,800
nine that's essentially 16 to

7701
04:26:52,800 --> 04:26:54,400
the acre. And so aicd confirmed

7702
04:26:54,400 --> 04:26:55,280
that that they're understanding

7703
04:26:55,280 --> 04:26:57,110
the 16 to the eight doesn't

7704
04:26:57,110 --> 04:26:58,210
really significantly move us

7705
04:26:58,210 --> 04:27:00,150
forward so that would be a

7706
04:27:00,150 --> 04:27:02,120
concern just as a risk as we

7707
04:27:02,120 --> 04:27:05,160
think about that. The other was

7708
04:27:05,160 --> 04:27:06,160
the recommendation around the

7709
04:27:06,160 --> 04:27:07,190
cottle road, the south side

7710
04:27:07,190 --> 04:27:09,190
community center. This is just

7711
04:27:09,190 --> 04:27:10,200
a technical note that will

7712
04:27:10,200 --> 04:27:12,150
bring back in the analysis the

7713
04:27:12,150 --> 04:27:14,110
community center in the fire

7714
04:27:14,110 --> 04:27:16,130
station are on the same parcel.

7715
04:27:16,130 --> 04:27:17,150
so we would just recommend

7716
04:27:17,150 --> 04:27:18,190
keeping the fire station as

7717
04:27:18,190 --> 04:27:21,000
peaky otherwise we're fine with

7718
04:27:21,000 --> 04:27:23,500
that one. Next up I just wanted

7719
04:27:23,500 --> 04:27:24,170
to reference quickly the

7720
04:27:24,170 --> 04:27:25,290
accounts the memo from

7721
04:27:25,290 --> 04:27:27,100
councilmembers ken dallas ortiz

7722
04:27:27,100 --> 04:27:30,200
and mulcahy. And so again I

7723
04:27:30,200 --> 04:27:32,280
think the conversation around

7724
04:27:32,280 --> 04:27:34,500
the second general plan

7725
04:27:34,500 --> 04:27:35,130
amendment cycle is something we

7726
04:27:35,130 --> 04:27:37,000
can accommodate and the

7727
04:27:37,000 --> 04:27:39,900
discussion around the mixed use

7728
04:27:39,900 --> 04:27:41,160
commercial sites around west

7729
04:27:41,160 --> 04:27:43,300
san carlos is consistent with

7730
04:27:43,300 --> 04:27:45,180
the staff approach obviously

7731
04:27:45,180 --> 04:27:46,160
you know I'm sure we'll have a

7732
04:27:46,160 --> 04:27:48,416
conversation around the mixed

7733
04:27:50,700 --> 04:27:52,407
use neighborhood sites and

7734
04:27:53,290 --> 04:27:55,429
around the corry neighborhood.

7735
04:27:56,230 --> 04:27:57,280
I think you know councilmember

7736
04:27:57,280 --> 04:27:59,130
little katie, you know you've

7737
04:27:59,130 --> 04:28:00,250
put forward your recommendation

7738
04:28:00,250 --> 04:28:03,000
through this memo as we think

7739
04:28:03,000 --> 04:28:05,100
about that, you know the net

7740
04:28:05,100 --> 04:28:08,000
unit yield on those sites is

7741
04:28:08,000 --> 04:28:09,180
relatively low. So just being

7742
04:28:09,180 --> 04:28:11,210
mindful of, you know, the

7743
04:28:11,210 --> 04:28:12,280
benefit of maintaining some

7744
04:28:12,280 --> 04:28:14,270
of the commercial right versus

7745
04:28:14,270 --> 04:28:17,270
going to smaller projects as

7746
04:28:19,400 --> 04:28:20,250
far as the streamlined process

7747
04:28:20,250 --> 04:28:23,900
around steps on peak plans,

7748
04:28:23,900 --> 04:28:24,150
that's something we would refer

7749
04:28:24,150 --> 04:28:26,150
to the budget process obviously

7750
04:28:26,150 --> 04:28:28,800
as a cost recovery department

7751
04:28:28,800 --> 04:28:29,200
we don't have the ability to

7752
04:28:29,200 --> 04:28:31,200
reduce fees in any way so

7753
04:28:31,200 --> 04:28:32,100
council would have to

7754
04:28:32,100 --> 04:28:33,230
supplement that program with

7755
04:28:33,230 --> 04:28:35,900
additional money to support

7756
04:28:35,900 --> 04:28:37,100
those applications. And then

7757
04:28:37,100 --> 04:28:39,180
lastly sort of ground up on

7758
04:28:39,180 --> 04:28:41,170
this one I apologize. I do want

7759
04:28:41,170 --> 04:28:42,280
to touch on the recommendation

7760
04:28:42,280 --> 04:28:44,428
about geographic exclusions. I

7761
04:28:45,000 --> 04:28:47,600
think you know, certainly we'd

7762
04:28:47,600 --> 04:28:48,260
been considering the impact on

7763
04:28:48,260 --> 04:28:50,110
fire severity zones and it's

7764
04:28:50,110 --> 04:28:52,200
something we're very mindful

7765
04:28:52,200 --> 04:28:53,000
of and sort of you know,

7766
04:28:53,000 --> 04:28:54,160
expanding that and being really

7767
04:28:54,160 --> 04:28:56,200
careful about how we plan that

7768
04:28:56,200 --> 04:28:57,230
is something we definitely want

7769
04:28:57,230 --> 04:28:59,160
to accommodate. I do want to

7770
04:28:59,160 --> 04:29:01,400
talk about the areas with

7771
04:29:01,400 --> 04:29:04,400
medical high vmt, the planned

7772
04:29:04,170 --> 04:29:06,800
development areas as well as

7773
04:29:06,800 --> 04:29:08,500
the area specific plans. The

7774
04:29:08,500 --> 04:29:09,240
challenge we run into with

7775
04:29:09,240 --> 04:29:12,240
limiting geography is that p35

7776
04:29:13,110 --> 04:29:14,600
in the housing element

7777
04:29:14,600 --> 04:29:15,180
explicitly called out high

7778
04:29:15,180 --> 04:29:17,270
resource areas and we talk

7779
04:29:17,270 --> 04:29:19,200
about this and we can happily

7780
04:29:19,200 --> 04:29:20,120
go into more details but I did

7781
04:29:20,120 --> 04:29:21,200
want to just show a map of our

7782
04:29:21,200 --> 04:29:23,250
high resource areas and so the

7783
04:29:23,250 --> 04:29:25,230
very dark blue and the sort

7784
04:29:25,230 --> 04:29:27,700
of teal color that doesn't come

7785
04:29:27,700 --> 04:29:28,100
through very well in the screen

7786
04:29:28,100 --> 04:29:30,400
but the darker colors are our

7787
04:29:30,400 --> 04:29:31,250
high resource areas and they

7788
04:29:31,250 --> 04:29:33,230
tend to align with many

7789
04:29:33,230 --> 04:29:35,220
of those geographic exclusions.

7790
04:29:35,220 --> 04:29:37,900
and so we feel that, you know,

7791
04:29:37,900 --> 04:29:38,140
there's a potential for us to

7792
04:29:38,140 --> 04:29:40,220
run afoul of the intent of the

7793
04:29:40,220 --> 04:29:42,120
program to provide those

7794
04:29:42,120 --> 04:29:43,260
opportunities in high resource

7795
04:29:43,260 --> 04:29:45,250
areas if we start to exclude

7796
04:29:45,250 --> 04:29:46,190
them through some of these

7797
04:29:46,190 --> 04:29:48,190
geographical exemptions. And

7798
04:29:49,260 --> 04:29:51,426
then the memo from

7799
04:29:52,600 --> 04:29:52,290
councilmember committee and to

7800
04:29:52,290 --> 04:29:54,260
rios, I think for the most

7801
04:29:54,260 --> 04:29:56,300
part, you know, we can

7802
04:29:56,300 --> 04:29:57,130
absolutely accommodate this in

7803
04:29:57,130 --> 04:29:59,000
the analysis we did just want

7804
04:29:59,000 --> 04:30:00,700
to point out that the work with

7805
04:30:00,700 --> 04:30:01,230
idr is actually we actually

7806
04:30:01,230 --> 04:30:03,230
have language included in the

7807
04:30:03,230 --> 04:30:05,160
pledge priorities around

7808
04:30:05,160 --> 04:30:06,250
density bonus law. It's an

7809
04:30:06,250 --> 04:30:08,270
issue that we've run up against

7810
04:30:08,270 --> 04:30:10,210
recently. I did also want to

7811
04:30:10,210 --> 04:30:12,180
acknowledge the memo from

7812
04:30:12,180 --> 04:30:13,270
councilmember dwan. Obviously

7813
04:30:13,270 --> 04:30:15,150
there's less of a focus for

7814
04:30:15,150 --> 04:30:17,170
city work for staff work and

7815
04:30:17,170 --> 04:30:18,150
that's obviously more of a

7816
04:30:18,150 --> 04:30:20,130
conversation for city council

7817
04:30:20,130 --> 04:30:21,150
as far as deferring the

7818
04:30:21,150 --> 04:30:23,240
discussion. So there's a lot

7819
04:30:23,240 --> 04:30:25,130
there certainly there's a lot

7820
04:30:25,130 --> 04:30:27,300
more detail that we're happy to

7821
04:30:27,300 --> 04:30:28,210
go into as a part of the

7822
04:30:28,210 --> 04:30:30,210
discussion and so staff's

7823
04:30:30,210 --> 04:30:32,421
available for questions. Thank

7824
04:30:33,280 --> 04:30:35,100
you chris. Just as I turn to

7825
04:30:35,100 --> 04:30:36,250
toni to begin public comment, I

7826
04:30:36,250 --> 04:30:38,425
believe we have over 100

7827
04:30:39,300 --> 04:30:40,220
comment cards in the chamber

7828
04:30:40,220 --> 04:30:43,210
and likely over 100 online. So

7829
04:30:43,210 --> 04:30:45,700
even at a minute per speaker

7830
04:30:45,700 --> 04:30:46,100
we're going to be here for a

7831
04:30:46,100 --> 04:30:47,140
while. So again, I want to

7832
04:30:47,140 --> 04:30:50,170
thank you all for your time,

7833
04:30:50,170 --> 04:30:52,417
your participation. This is

7834
04:30:53,290 --> 04:30:55,100
this is democracy. I think it's

7835
04:30:55,100 --> 04:30:58,150
great. I do want to note that I

7836
04:30:58,150 --> 04:31:00,180
know folks are going to be are

7837
04:31:00,180 --> 04:31:01,290
going to want to cheer and boo

7838
04:31:01,290 --> 04:31:02,280
and again, that's just going to

7839
04:31:02,280 --> 04:31:04,150
slow us down and force us to

7840
04:31:04,150 --> 04:31:06,500
stop and ask for order in the

7841
04:31:06,500 --> 04:31:07,900
chamber. So I'd ask that you

7842
04:31:07,900 --> 04:31:08,170
help us move efficiently

7843
04:31:08,170 --> 04:31:10,230
through what may be 2 or 3

7844
04:31:10,230 --> 04:31:13,230
hours of public comment. Toni,

7845
04:31:13,280 --> 04:31:15,250
please I'll turn to you >> as a

7846
04:31:15,250 --> 04:31:17,700
reminder speakers must comply

7847
04:31:17,700 --> 04:31:18,140
with the city's code of conduct

7848
04:31:18,140 --> 04:31:19,210
for public meetings. Please

7849
04:31:19,210 --> 04:31:20,290
direct comments to the body

7850
04:31:20,290 --> 04:31:22,900
limit remarks to the agenda

7851
04:31:22,900 --> 04:31:24,600
item and observe the time limit

7852
04:31:24,600 --> 04:31:25,700
conduct that materially

7853
04:31:25,700 --> 04:31:26,700
disrupts the meeting or

7854
04:31:26,700 --> 04:31:27,180
interferes with others ability

7855
04:31:27,180 --> 04:31:29,800
to participate may result in

7856
04:31:29,800 --> 04:31:30,290
muting or removal as authorized

7857
04:31:30,290 --> 04:31:33,629
by law. I have 118 cards in

7858
04:31:35,160 --> 04:31:39,900
person I have not looked I have

7859
04:31:39,900 --> 04:31:42,900
16 hands are up so far 119

7860
04:31:42,120 --> 04:31:44,700
people online. I'm going to

7861
04:31:44,700 --> 04:31:47,000
call between 20 and 30 names in

7862
04:31:47,000 --> 04:31:48,250
person. Then I'll bump over

7863
04:31:48,250 --> 04:31:50,120
online and call a few names

7864
04:31:50,120 --> 04:31:52,170
there and then I'll go back and

7865
04:31:52,170 --> 04:31:54,150
forth with the larger group

7866
04:31:54,150 --> 04:31:57,700
being the in person if you want

7867
04:31:57,700 --> 04:31:59,700
to speak and then exit we ask

7868
04:31:59,700 --> 04:32:01,150
you to exit quietly because

7869
04:32:01,150 --> 04:32:02,210
there's so many speakers we

7870
04:32:02,210 --> 04:32:03,290
don't want the people at the

7871
04:32:03,290 --> 04:32:04,270
end of the queue to have to

7872
04:32:04,270 --> 04:32:06,160
wait extra time because we need

7873
04:32:06,160 --> 04:32:08,100
to quiet people down. Thank

7874
04:32:08,100 --> 04:32:10,900
you. So in the order that we

7875
04:32:10,900 --> 04:32:12,210
received your cards larry james

7876
04:32:12,210 --> 04:32:15,210
come on down robert. Robert

7877
04:32:16,120 --> 04:32:18,412
squirrel doug andre kristen

7878
04:32:22,160 --> 04:32:25,160
brasi, jim wendling and michael

7879
04:32:26,240 --> 04:32:29,240
schumacher. Come on down larry

7880
04:32:38,200 --> 04:32:40,900
james are larry and larry

7881
04:32:40,900 --> 04:32:43,700
james. Yes. Thank you very

7882
04:32:43,700 --> 04:32:44,210
much. Yeah, I stood up when you

7883
04:32:44,210 --> 04:32:47,210
were five. It's confusing

7884
04:32:49,170 --> 04:32:51,240
my ready to go I start. Hello

7885
04:32:51,240 --> 04:32:53,160
mayor. Man and sound of the

7886
04:32:53,160 --> 04:32:54,230
city council. Thank you for

7887
04:32:54,230 --> 04:32:55,250
having me and thank you very

7888
04:32:55,250 --> 04:32:56,190
much for your dedicated

7889
04:32:56,190 --> 04:32:57,200
service. This is a very

7890
04:32:57,200 --> 04:32:58,210
important issue to

7891
04:32:58,210 --> 04:33:00,230
me personally. I am larry

7892
04:33:00,230 --> 04:33:02,600
james. I'm a resident of the

7893
04:33:02,600 --> 04:33:04,100
city of santa clara. I am a

7894
04:33:04,100 --> 04:33:05,250
small business owner currently

7895
04:33:05,250 --> 04:33:07,700
launching a startup called the

7896
04:33:07,700 --> 04:33:09,180
always outdoorsman. I think

7897
04:33:09,180 --> 04:33:10,210
this issue is extremely

7898
04:33:10,210 --> 04:33:12,220
important because number one I

7899
04:33:12,220 --> 04:33:15,200
have a very large concern about

7900
04:33:15,200 --> 04:33:17,130
the lack of affordable housing

7901
04:33:17,130 --> 04:33:19,700
as a percentage of the total

7902
04:33:19,700 --> 04:33:20,220
that the state is imposing on

7903
04:33:20,220 --> 04:33:22,210
the cities. Right. Is it 2% or

7904
04:33:22,210 --> 04:33:25,200
I don't know what it is but

7905
04:33:25,200 --> 04:33:25,280
okay, it's higher than that.

7906
04:33:25,280 --> 04:33:27,700
but whatever it's not enough,

7907
04:33:27,700 --> 04:33:28,300
right? We don't have enough

7908
04:33:28,300 --> 04:33:29,130
affordable housing and that is

7909
04:33:29,130 --> 04:33:31,210
the crisis right? So I would

7910
04:33:31,210 --> 04:33:34,120
urge the city of san jose to

7911
04:33:34,120 --> 04:33:36,130
make sure that you are using

7912
04:33:36,130 --> 04:33:37,250
your properties that are

7913
04:33:37,250 --> 04:33:39,800
available to you and build

7914
04:33:39,800 --> 04:33:41,100
large complex as much as

7915
04:33:41,100 --> 04:33:43,500
possible. Right. So that you're

7916
04:33:43,500 --> 04:33:45,170
centralizing you know you want

7917
04:33:45,170 --> 04:33:47,100
to build these smart cities and

7918
04:33:47,100 --> 04:33:48,300
what whatever you're doing and

7919
04:33:48,300 --> 04:33:50,800
I think that's great but what

7920
04:33:50,800 --> 04:33:53,608
really concerns me >> I'm sorry

7921
04:33:54,900 --> 04:33:57,270
that your time >> that's okay.

7922
04:33:57,270 --> 04:34:00,270
I'll keep an eye on this. Yeah.

7923
04:34:00,270 --> 04:34:02,427
next speaker okay. Good

7924
04:34:03,600 --> 04:34:04,190
evening. My name is rob. I'm a

7925
04:34:04,190 --> 04:34:07,200
principal planner at vta. We

7926
04:34:07,200 --> 04:34:08,500
submitted a comment letter on

7927
04:34:08,500 --> 04:34:10,300
friday. It's included in packet

7928
04:34:10,300 --> 04:34:12,200
seven of the public comment

7929
04:34:12,200 --> 04:34:14,500
just to reiterate whittier

7930
04:34:14,500 --> 04:34:15,240
urges the city council to adopt

7931
04:34:15,240 --> 04:34:17,700
the framework recommended by

7932
04:34:17,700 --> 04:34:18,300
the planning commission

7933
04:34:18,300 --> 04:34:19,180
including the recommendation in

7934
04:34:19,180 --> 04:34:21,120
the small multifamily category

7935
04:34:21,120 --> 04:34:22,280
to increase the density of our

7936
04:34:22,280 --> 04:34:25,190
end to 32 units to the acre.

7937
04:34:25,190 --> 04:34:27,200
vta also notes the city set a

7938
04:34:27,200 --> 04:34:29,120
progressive direction in 2012

7939
04:34:29,120 --> 04:34:31,160
excuse me 2022 of adopting a

7940
04:34:31,160 --> 04:34:33,140
transit first policy as well as

7941
04:34:33,140 --> 04:34:34,180
removing minimum parking

7942
04:34:34,180 --> 04:34:36,150
requirements and we encourage

7943
04:34:36,150 --> 04:34:38,220
the city council to build on

7944
04:34:38,220 --> 04:34:40,600
those previous policies with

7945
04:34:40,600 --> 04:34:42,900
this general plan for a review.

7946
04:34:42,900 --> 04:34:44,260
and finally we would like to

7947
04:34:44,260 --> 04:34:46,120
continue to work with the city

7948
04:34:46,120 --> 04:34:48,200
city staff to look for a path

7949
04:34:48,200 --> 04:34:49,190
for allowing residential mixed

7950
04:34:49,190 --> 04:34:52,000
use and the vta sereny and

7951
04:34:52,000 --> 04:34:54,100
santa teresa and sites. Thank

7952
04:34:54,100 --> 04:34:56,400
you very much. >> thank you.

7953
04:34:56,400 --> 04:34:59,400
next speaker matt larson and

7954
04:34:59,800 --> 04:35:02,800
michael young come on down.

7955
04:35:02,120 --> 04:35:04,100
yes, my name is jim wendling.

7956
04:35:04,100 --> 04:35:05,280
I've lived here in san jose for

7957
04:35:05,280 --> 04:35:08,628
over seven years and we have

7958
04:35:09,110 --> 04:35:11,130
moved into our third house as

7959
04:35:11,130 --> 04:35:12,280
we've moved up from our starter

7960
04:35:12,280 --> 04:35:15,160
house and the house and our

7961
04:35:15,160 --> 04:35:17,120
we're in our third house and

7962
04:35:17,120 --> 04:35:19,900
it's a very nice single family

7963
04:35:19,900 --> 04:35:21,170
residential area and what I see

7964
04:35:21,170 --> 04:35:24,120
is a risk to people like us

7965
04:35:24,120 --> 04:35:25,130
from what's happening and I

7966
04:35:25,130 --> 04:35:27,400
know we need more housing but

7967
04:35:27,400 --> 04:35:28,280
it's not clear what direction

7968
04:35:28,280 --> 04:35:30,600
you're going in will provide

7969
04:35:30,600 --> 04:35:32,290
more truly affordable housing.

7970
04:35:32,290 --> 04:35:35,280
but when I heard the situation

7971
04:35:35,280 --> 04:35:37,500
that was discussed before us

7972
04:35:37,500 --> 04:35:39,220
today and you approved 1210 or

7973
04:35:39,220 --> 04:35:41,422
11 and nothing for something

7974
04:35:42,800 --> 04:35:45,800
that had potential hazards and

7975
04:35:45,250 --> 04:35:47,425
driving conditions right there

7976
04:35:48,190 --> 04:35:49,230
and then you're going to check

7977
04:35:49,230 --> 04:35:51,500
later to see if it worked out

7978
04:35:51,500 --> 04:35:53,800
okay. I know you don't like

7979
04:35:53,800 --> 04:35:55,120
doing those kinds of things.

7980
04:35:55,120 --> 04:35:56,110
you'd rather be doing other

7981
04:35:56,110 --> 04:35:59,300
things but we're going to

7982
04:35:59,300 --> 04:36:00,220
go into a world where if you

7983
04:36:00,220 --> 04:36:03,220
approve what's promoted thank

7984
04:36:03,220 --> 04:36:06,100
>> you that your time next

7985
04:36:06,100 --> 04:36:08,401
speaker no. Mayor >> mehan

7986
04:36:15,180 --> 04:36:16,220
council members my name is

7987
04:36:16,220 --> 04:36:18,400
michael young, member of the

7988
04:36:18,400 --> 04:36:19,700
planning commission. I'm

7989
04:36:19,700 --> 04:36:21,230
speaking to you today as a

7990
04:36:21,230 --> 04:36:23,423
private citizen. What these

7991
04:36:25,270 --> 04:36:27,130
proposals are is what kind of a

7992
04:36:27,130 --> 04:36:28,200
city we want to have going >>

7993
04:36:28,200 --> 04:36:30,100
forward. Do we want to have a

7994
04:36:30,100 --> 04:36:32,300
city that's only affordable for

7995
04:36:32,300 --> 04:36:33,200
people who work in tech and

7996
04:36:33,200 --> 04:36:35,200
people like myself who've been

7997
04:36:35,200 --> 04:36:36,230
here a long time or do we want

7998
04:36:36,230 --> 04:36:37,150
to have a city that's

7999
04:36:37,150 --> 04:36:39,415
affordable for working people?

8000
04:36:40,200 --> 04:36:41,270
that's what this is about. We

8001
04:36:41,270 --> 04:36:43,160
need to increase the supply

8002
04:36:43,160 --> 04:36:44,180
of rental multifamily

8003
04:36:44,180 --> 04:36:46,180
properties, increasing density

8004
04:36:47,220 --> 04:36:48,220
in our single family

8005
04:36:48,220 --> 04:36:49,260
neighborhoods is the best way

8006
04:36:49,260 --> 04:36:53,226
>> to do that. You know, just a

8007
04:36:56,250 --> 04:36:58,210
reminder we will remove people

8008
04:36:58,210 --> 04:36:59,170
from the chamber if they're

8009
04:36:59,170 --> 04:37:01,140
disrupting the meeting this

8010
04:37:01,140 --> 04:37:03,100
individual gets his minute

8011
04:37:03,100 --> 04:37:04,190
of public comment and his free

8012
04:37:04,190 --> 04:37:05,260
speech his first amendment

8013
04:37:05,260 --> 04:37:07,280
rights like everybody else. Can

8014
04:37:07,280 --> 04:37:09,170
we please rewind the clock to

8015
04:37:09,170 --> 04:37:11,900
where we pause and begin? Thank

8016
04:37:11,900 --> 04:37:13,140
you. Go ahead, sir. Thank >>

8017
04:37:13,140 --> 04:37:16,800
you. Mayor meehan. What I

8018
04:37:16,800 --> 04:37:18,120
learned from my parents is much

8019
04:37:18,120 --> 04:37:21,140
who are given much is expected.

8020
04:37:21,140 --> 04:37:24,000
so I feel as a >> resident in a

8021
04:37:24,000 --> 04:37:26,200
single family neighborhood I

8022
04:37:26,200 --> 04:37:27,230
need to give back and the best

8023
04:37:27,230 --> 04:37:29,400
way I can get back is to be

8024
04:37:29,400 --> 04:37:31,200
open to some changes if a

8025
04:37:31,200 --> 04:37:33,402
triplex. >> okay, thank you

8026
04:37:34,280 --> 04:37:37,280
john klemski come >> mazursky I

8027
04:37:40,200 --> 04:37:41,150
butchered that name john come

8028
04:37:41,150 --> 04:37:43,210
on down and lynn paulson

8029
04:37:43,210 --> 04:37:46,170
go ahead. Honorable mayor and

8030
04:37:46,170 --> 04:37:48,120
city council I am a longtime

8031
04:37:48,120 --> 04:37:49,230
resident of district nine and

8032
04:37:49,230 --> 04:37:51,100
live in the homestead acres

8033
04:37:51,100 --> 04:37:52,800
housing track adjoining the

8034
04:37:52,800 --> 04:37:54,180
boundary of los gatos is an old

8035
04:37:54,180 --> 04:37:56,600
neighborhood of very large lots

8036
04:37:56,600 --> 04:37:58,600
and semi-rural nature. We were

8037
04:37:58,600 --> 04:37:59,260
annexed into the city over our

8038
04:37:59,260 --> 04:38:01,426
strenuous objections not too

8039
04:38:02,000 --> 04:38:03,190
long ago developers sought to

8040
04:38:03,190 --> 04:38:05,600
build nine houses on a single

8041
04:38:05,600 --> 04:38:06,190
lot and homestead acres and was

8042
04:38:06,190 --> 04:38:08,900
turned down by the city. That

8043
04:38:08,900 --> 04:38:09,150
would not happen under this

8044
04:38:09,150 --> 04:38:11,150
proposal. The resulting

8045
04:38:11,160 --> 04:38:13,800
disintegration of cohesive

8046
04:38:13,800 --> 04:38:14,130
neighbors and overflowing

8047
04:38:14,130 --> 04:38:16,140
parking and increasing traffic

8048
04:38:16,140 --> 04:38:18,500
will be a negative impact on

8049
04:38:18,500 --> 04:38:19,210
the quality of life that we've

8050
04:38:19,210 --> 04:38:22,900
worked so hard to maintain. I

8051
04:38:22,900 --> 04:38:23,240
call upon you to protect our

8052
04:38:23,240 --> 04:38:25,000
established neighborhoods and

8053
04:38:25,000 --> 04:38:27,000
communities with reasonable

8054
04:38:27,130 --> 04:38:29,130
with reasonable densities.

8055
04:38:30,250 --> 04:38:33,625
please vote no thank you. Thank

8056
04:38:35,000 --> 04:38:38,000
you. Next speaker okay. Good

8057
04:38:45,270 --> 04:38:47,100
evening. I'm kristen from

8058
04:38:47,100 --> 04:38:49,410
district ten five generations

8059
04:38:50,110 --> 04:38:51,160
of my family and born and

8060
04:38:51,160 --> 04:38:54,160
raised in san jose. And

8061
04:38:54,170 --> 04:38:55,160
my concern is that you're

8062
04:38:55,160 --> 04:38:58,616
forgetting about us. I'm not

8063
04:38:59,260 --> 04:39:01,900
against affordable housing.

8064
04:39:01,900 --> 04:39:02,230
there are some built by

8065
04:39:02,230 --> 04:39:04,130
my house that are not full.

8066
04:39:04,130 --> 04:39:05,170
there's a massive one being

8067
04:39:05,170 --> 04:39:07,700
built down the street and

8068
04:39:07,700 --> 04:39:08,190
there's another one that's

8069
04:39:08,190 --> 04:39:11,400
planned to be developed in the

8070
04:39:11,400 --> 04:39:14,200
next couple of years and I ask

8071
04:39:14,200 --> 04:39:15,280
that you take into

8072
04:39:15,280 --> 04:39:17,190
consideration the impact

8073
04:39:17,190 --> 04:39:19,419
of utilities parking and

8074
04:39:20,200 --> 04:39:24,500
traffic also I don't think we

8075
04:39:24,500 --> 04:39:25,150
need to build because there are

8076
04:39:25,150 --> 04:39:27,110
some in the area I don't think

8077
04:39:27,110 --> 04:39:29,000
that they should be built in

8078
04:39:29,000 --> 04:39:31,400
my neighborhood sorry single

8079
04:39:34,130 --> 04:39:36,260
family >> single family homes

8080
04:39:36,260 --> 04:39:38,426
like mine should the

8081
04:39:39,900 --> 04:39:40,210
neighborhood should stay single

8082
04:39:40,210 --> 04:39:42,421
family homes. So please >>

8083
04:39:47,100 --> 04:39:50,600
thank you that your time next

8084
04:39:50,600 --> 04:39:54,806
speaker I'm robert wood. I'm a

8085
04:39:58,140 --> 04:39:59,250
housing chair of the california

8086
04:39:59,250 --> 04:40:01,425
family association san jose

8087
04:40:02,110 --> 04:40:03,150
state chapter. I'm also

8088
04:40:03,150 --> 04:40:04,250
speaking for bill armor line.

8089
04:40:04,250 --> 04:40:06,270
our political director who had

8090
04:40:06,270 --> 04:40:09,290
to leave and we appreciate what

8091
04:40:09,290 --> 04:40:12,700
the city planning has done in a

8092
04:40:12,700 --> 04:40:15,700
thoughtful effort to work on

8093
04:40:15,120 --> 04:40:17,700
residential neighborhoods. Also

8094
04:40:17,700 --> 04:40:18,130
appreciate the thoughtful

8095
04:40:18,130 --> 04:40:19,210
concerns of the city

8096
04:40:19,210 --> 04:40:21,600
councilmember but we're very

8097
04:40:21,600 --> 04:40:23,170
concerned about key areas

8098
04:40:23,170 --> 04:40:25,170
of opportunity either omitted

8099
04:40:25,170 --> 04:40:28,170
in this proposal. Number one,

8100
04:40:28,190 --> 04:40:29,210
the growth areas in the

8101
04:40:29,210 --> 04:40:32,210
existing plan we have 7.4 miles

8102
04:40:33,000 --> 04:40:34,900
supposed to produce most

8103
04:40:34,900 --> 04:40:36,900
of 170,000 units and

8104
04:40:36,230 --> 04:40:38,423
unrealistic rules and abandoned

8105
04:40:39,100 --> 04:40:40,100
are preventing abandoned

8106
04:40:40,100 --> 04:40:41,800
commercial and office spaces

8107
04:40:41,800 --> 04:40:43,200
from being developed nonprofit

8108
04:40:43,200 --> 04:40:44,260
organizations are not being

8109
04:40:44,260 --> 04:40:46,150
able to build housing on their

8110
04:40:46,150 --> 04:40:49,100
land and we have 85mi² of land

8111
04:40:49,100 --> 04:40:50,170
where zoning prohibits all

8112
04:40:50,170 --> 04:40:52,600
housing just a little bit

8113
04:40:52,600 --> 04:40:52,260
of that. There are some

8114
04:40:52,260 --> 04:40:54,700
excellent opportunities in

8115
04:40:54,700 --> 04:40:56,407
those areas. Sacramento and

8116
04:40:57,700 --> 04:40:59,200
san diego. >> thank you that

8117
04:40:59,200 --> 04:41:02,120
your time larry ames come on

8118
04:41:02,120 --> 04:41:06,812
down and cindy h. Hi, I'm matt

8119
04:41:09,230 --> 04:41:11,220
larson. I work in land use and

8120
04:41:11,220 --> 04:41:13,500
housing policy for the last

8121
04:41:13,500 --> 04:41:14,160
decade and is with that

8122
04:41:14,160 --> 04:41:15,130
background that I say the

8123
04:41:15,130 --> 04:41:18,500
following this is >> great the

8124
04:41:18,500 --> 04:41:19,130
policy framework will have a

8125
04:41:19,130 --> 04:41:21,400
meaningful impact on actually

8126
04:41:21,400 --> 04:41:22,100
building the housing that

8127
04:41:22,100 --> 04:41:24,500
san jose is striving to build.

8128
04:41:24,500 --> 04:41:25,250
staff planning, commission and

8129
04:41:25,250 --> 04:41:28,150
council all deserve our praise.

8130
04:41:28,150 --> 04:41:29,180
there's also a lot of great

8131
04:41:29,180 --> 04:41:30,200
additional policy in the >>

8132
04:41:30,200 --> 04:41:32,150
council memos. The mayor's memo

8133
04:41:32,150 --> 04:41:34,100
adds needed flexibility for

8134
04:41:34,100 --> 04:41:35,260
building affordable housing

8135
04:41:35,260 --> 04:41:38,400
that can dallas a mulcahey or

8136
04:41:38,400 --> 04:41:41,000
t's proposal for additional

8137
04:41:41,000 --> 04:41:42,220
general plan amendment cycle

8138
04:41:42,220 --> 04:41:44,600
will help small developers who

8139
04:41:44,600 --> 04:41:46,800
can't take on the carrying cost

8140
04:41:46,800 --> 04:41:47,180
that larger institutional

8141
04:41:47,180 --> 04:41:49,190
groups can and the tordillos

8142
04:41:49,190 --> 04:41:52,190
command memo and local density

8143
04:41:52,260 --> 04:41:54,210
bonus streamline and will be

8144
04:41:54,210 --> 04:41:56,200
attractive to homebuilders

8145
04:41:56,200 --> 04:41:58,300
while delivering san jose the

8146
04:41:58,300 --> 04:41:59,800
development standards it

8147
04:41:59,800 --> 04:42:02,700
desires. There's also they also

8148
04:42:02,700 --> 04:42:04,600
raise a most important point.

8149
04:42:04,600 --> 04:42:06,100
whatever you do don't risk

8150
04:42:06,100 --> 04:42:07,260
housing element decertification

8151
04:42:07,260 --> 04:42:09,000
and thank you all for your hard

8152
04:42:09,000 --> 04:42:10,200
work. Thank >> you. Next

8153
04:42:10,200 --> 04:42:13,200
speaker. My name is lynn

8154
04:42:14,140 --> 04:42:16,230
paulson. I oppose the proposal

8155
04:42:16,230 --> 04:42:18,800
to revise the general plan to

8156
04:42:18,800 --> 04:42:19,250
increase density allowances for

8157
04:42:19,250 --> 04:42:20,290
most single family home

8158
04:42:20,290 --> 04:42:22,290
parcels. There are many reasons

8159
04:42:22,290 --> 04:42:24,170
I'm opposed but I wanted to

8160
04:42:24,170 --> 04:42:25,250
highlight the impact this could

8161
04:42:25,250 --> 04:42:27,230
have on the tree canopy. I was

8162
04:42:27,230 --> 04:42:29,100
at the council meeting last

8163
04:42:29,100 --> 04:42:30,230
week where you reviewed the

8164
04:42:30,230 --> 04:42:32,000
response to the grand jury

8165
04:42:32,000 --> 04:42:33,260
report regarding the decline

8166
04:42:33,260 --> 04:42:35,270
of san jose's tree canopy which

8167
04:42:35,270 --> 04:42:37,170
is important to all residents

8168
04:42:37,170 --> 04:42:39,500
in the city. During the

8169
04:42:39,500 --> 04:42:40,270
discussion at the august 11th

8170
04:42:40,270 --> 04:42:42,400
council meeting, the city

8171
04:42:42,400 --> 04:42:43,220
forester stated that the

8172
04:42:43,220 --> 04:42:45,400
greatest opportunity to

8173
04:42:45,400 --> 04:42:46,240
reversing this decline in tree

8174
04:42:46,240 --> 04:42:48,230
canopy could be a focus on

8175
04:42:48,230 --> 04:42:50,900
actions related to residential

8176
04:42:50,900 --> 04:42:52,300
parcels. Instead you have

8177
04:42:52,300 --> 04:42:53,110
before you a proposal for

8178
04:42:53,110 --> 04:42:54,220
increased density on single

8179
04:42:54,220 --> 04:42:56,140
family home parcels. That would

8180
04:42:56,140 --> 04:42:58,300
again put the tree canopy issue

8181
04:42:58,300 --> 04:43:00,000
on low priority while not

8182
04:43:00,000 --> 04:43:01,120
helping to reverse the current

8183
04:43:01,120 --> 04:43:02,270
downward trend. Let alone meet

8184
04:43:02,270 --> 04:43:04,260
the goal you have for 2051.

8185
04:43:04,260 --> 04:43:07,110
thank you. Thank >> you. Next

8186
04:43:07,110 --> 04:43:10,611
speaker jo dan from d-10 and

8187
04:43:11,100 --> 04:43:13,210
paul come on >> down. I'm john

8188
04:43:13,210 --> 04:43:14,200
paul mazursky and I was

8189
04:43:14,200 --> 04:43:16,400
surprised to hear about the

8190
04:43:16,400 --> 04:43:17,240
high density housing plan being

8191
04:43:17,240 --> 04:43:20,000
proposed. I attended one of the

8192
04:43:20,000 --> 04:43:21,600
neighborhood meetings but had

8193
04:43:21,600 --> 04:43:22,180
no other communication from

8194
04:43:22,180 --> 04:43:23,260
anywhere about the extent

8195
04:43:23,260 --> 04:43:26,600
of the proposed plan. This plan

8196
04:43:26,600 --> 04:43:27,180
would allow density in the city

8197
04:43:27,180 --> 04:43:28,290
of san jose to be greater than

8198
04:43:28,290 --> 04:43:31,160
new york city. That's your view

8199
04:43:31,160 --> 04:43:33,600
of the city. That's what's

8200
04:43:33,600 --> 04:43:36,100
being proposed. This is a city

8201
04:43:36,100 --> 04:43:37,190
with no real mass transit.

8202
04:43:37,190 --> 04:43:39,700
already long commute times that

8203
04:43:39,700 --> 04:43:41,100
we have everywhere. How are we

8204
04:43:41,100 --> 04:43:42,400
going to pay for that mass

8205
04:43:42,400 --> 04:43:43,100
transit parking? They're

8206
04:43:43,100 --> 04:43:44,160
talking about putting those

8207
04:43:44,160 --> 04:43:45,230
plans in place but it's going

8208
04:43:45,230 --> 04:43:47,230
to be difficult. And I've

8209
04:43:47,230 --> 04:43:48,180
talked to many of your

8210
04:43:48,180 --> 04:43:50,250
constituents and to a person

8211
04:43:50,250 --> 04:43:52,900
they're just incredulous that

8212
04:43:52,900 --> 04:43:54,230
this amount is being proposed.

8213
04:43:54,230 --> 04:43:56,800
and as I understand this, once

8214
04:43:56,800 --> 04:43:58,220
you change the density to a a

8215
04:43:58,220 --> 04:44:00,500
higher density you won't be

8216
04:44:00,500 --> 04:44:01,160
able to reduce it later. So you

8217
04:44:01,160 --> 04:44:02,290
need to make your decision with

8218
04:44:02,290 --> 04:44:05,140
your eyes open. So I support

8219
04:44:05,140 --> 04:44:06,240
the need for new housing but I

8220
04:44:06,240 --> 04:44:08,150
think you need to suggest that

8221
04:44:08,150 --> 04:44:10,130
the planners do take they'll

8222
04:44:10,130 --> 04:44:12,000
take a look at taking those

8223
04:44:12,000 --> 04:44:15,000
high density areas in certain.

8224
04:44:15,110 --> 04:44:17,150
I'm sorry that your time next

8225
04:44:17,150 --> 04:44:20,150
speaker. >> larry ames d six

8226
04:44:22,280 --> 04:44:24,150
neighborhood leaders group as

8227
04:44:24,150 --> 04:44:26,250
we said in a letter we do have

8228
04:44:26,250 --> 04:44:28,100
the need for more housing. The

8229
04:44:28,100 --> 04:44:29,280
state says we must update our

8230
04:44:29,280 --> 04:44:31,280
plans which will change our

8231
04:44:31,280 --> 04:44:34,000
city. But please don't overdo

8232
04:44:34,000 --> 04:44:35,150
it. These changes will be hard

8233
04:44:35,150 --> 04:44:37,190
to undo. We do need to increase

8234
04:44:37,190 --> 04:44:39,150
increased density. But 32 years

8235
04:44:39,150 --> 04:44:41,280
an acre citywide is excessive

8236
04:44:41,280 --> 04:44:43,220
and d six we have many good

8237
04:44:43,220 --> 04:44:45,200
missing middle infill projects

8238
04:44:45,200 --> 04:44:47,130
in japan centric in walkable

8239
04:44:47,130 --> 04:44:49,300
neighborhoods and working out

8240
04:44:49,300 --> 04:44:51,130
around 16 units in acre. The

8241
04:44:51,130 --> 04:44:54,160
mayor's memo 2.1 b calls for

8242
04:44:54,160 --> 04:44:55,210
staff to study this lower

8243
04:44:55,210 --> 04:44:57,110
density. You the growth in

8244
04:44:57,110 --> 04:45:00,110
mayor's.18 and four minimum

8245
04:45:00,110 --> 04:45:02,411
parking standards and analysis

8246
04:45:03,900 --> 04:45:04,280
memo. Don't build high density

8247
04:45:04,280 --> 04:45:07,120
out and transit poor areas. The

8248
04:45:07,120 --> 04:45:09,400
state law calls for some

8249
04:45:09,400 --> 04:45:10,210
objective standards so our

8250
04:45:10,210 --> 04:45:12,900
guidelines will need updating.

8251
04:45:12,900 --> 04:45:13,260
and please ask south to find

8252
04:45:13,260 --> 04:45:15,270
objective ways to our granting

8253
04:45:15,270 --> 04:45:17,160
density bonuses, concessions

8254
04:45:17,160 --> 04:45:19,220
and waivers. We want to work to

8255
04:45:19,220 --> 04:45:21,300
work with the council and the

8256
04:45:21,300 --> 04:45:22,120
city to make san jose better.

8257
04:45:22,120 --> 04:45:24,412
>> thank you. Next speaker

8258
04:45:31,160 --> 04:45:32,170
my my >> historical

8259
04:45:32,170 --> 04:45:34,417
neighborhood opposes the boxy

8260
04:45:36,200 --> 04:45:39,200
ideas that are being presented

8261
04:45:40,170 --> 04:45:42,700
following our different ideas

8262
04:45:42,700 --> 04:45:45,607
that might help put the housing

8263
04:45:46,300 --> 04:45:49,300
>> item on these boxy houses

8264
04:45:50,290 --> 04:45:53,800
and put parking lots underneath

8265
04:45:53,800 --> 04:45:55,500
them rather than putting the

8266
04:45:55,500 --> 04:45:57,500
parking anywhere and

8267
04:45:58,900 --> 04:46:00,140
neighborhood the streets. Place

8268
04:46:00,140 --> 04:46:02,210
more housing near existing high

8269
04:46:02,210 --> 04:46:05,210
rises that high rise housing

8270
04:46:06,200 --> 04:46:08,230
should not be there because

8271
04:46:08,230 --> 04:46:11,623
that's where they work. Work

8272
04:46:12,170 --> 04:46:14,120
with our county government to

8273
04:46:14,120 --> 04:46:17,400
place housing around that. The

8274
04:46:17,400 --> 04:46:19,404
techie >> areas where they

8275
04:46:21,120 --> 04:46:24,800
work. Put business and housing

8276
04:46:24,800 --> 04:46:26,100
around our large regional

8277
04:46:26,100 --> 04:46:28,100
parks. Most of them have

8278
04:46:28,100 --> 04:46:30,280
nothing. Protect our historical

8279
04:46:30,280 --> 04:46:32,428
housing communities and thank

8280
04:46:33,900 --> 04:46:34,270
you. That's your time. Next

8281
04:46:34,270 --> 04:46:36,427
speaker. >> dear leaders please

8282
04:46:43,300 --> 04:46:46,300
vote no on the framework as is

8283
04:46:46,300 --> 04:46:48,290
it must include minimum parking

8284
04:46:48,290 --> 04:46:51,270
any housing needs realistic off

8285
04:46:51,270 --> 04:46:53,150
street parking because working

8286
04:46:53,150 --> 04:46:55,210
class people need their cars.

8287
04:46:55,210 --> 04:46:57,120
few workers have good train or

8288
04:46:57,120 --> 04:46:59,400
bus service to their workplace

8289
04:46:59,400 --> 04:47:01,100
at both ends of the work shift.

8290
04:47:01,100 --> 04:47:02,240
a 16 unit building with no

8291
04:47:02,240 --> 04:47:04,170
parking brings about 24 cars

8292
04:47:04,170 --> 04:47:06,130
that compete for curb space.

8293
04:47:06,130 --> 04:47:08,170
this opens a parking war in

8294
04:47:08,170 --> 04:47:10,900
boston. People hoard curb space

8295
04:47:10,900 --> 04:47:11,800
with old furniture and

8296
04:47:11,800 --> 04:47:12,290
vandalize any car displacing

8297
04:47:12,290 --> 04:47:15,600
that rivalry leads to vandalism

8298
04:47:15,600 --> 04:47:16,280
escalating to violence.

8299
04:47:16,280 --> 04:47:18,230
chicago's infamous projects

8300
04:47:18,230 --> 04:47:20,120
lack parking and don't help

8301
04:47:20,120 --> 04:47:22,400
residents hold down jobs.

8302
04:47:22,400 --> 04:47:23,240
arrogant people say I'm

8303
04:47:23,240 --> 04:47:25,300
interested in space for people

8304
04:47:25,300 --> 04:47:27,260
not cars meaning I'm a people

8305
04:47:27,260 --> 04:47:29,000
person. I don't care what you

8306
04:47:29,000 --> 04:47:31,190
need. Okay. Please continue

8307
04:47:31,190 --> 04:47:33,300
building housing near transit.

8308
04:47:33,300 --> 04:47:35,700
please be practical and include

8309
04:47:35,700 --> 04:47:38,800
parking. Again I can't stress

8310
04:47:38,800 --> 04:47:39,180
this enough I spent a whole

8311
04:47:39,180 --> 04:47:41,600
career working with factory

8312
04:47:41,600 --> 04:47:42,200
people working second and

8313
04:47:42,200 --> 04:47:44,420
third. >> thank you. Next

8314
04:47:46,700 --> 04:47:48,600
speaker series qa. Come on

8315
04:47:48,600 --> 04:47:50,200
down. Ron >> no last name and

8316
04:47:50,200 --> 04:47:52,420
robert. >> okay. I'm

8317
04:47:56,110 --> 04:47:57,500
paul parrott and pretty much

8318
04:47:57,500 --> 04:47:58,170
everything he said the

8319
04:47:58,170 --> 04:48:00,400
community has high density

8320
04:48:00,400 --> 04:48:01,200
areas single family

8321
04:48:01,200 --> 04:48:02,220
neighborhoods, countryside.

8322
04:48:02,220 --> 04:48:04,140
bottom line is we do not want

8323
04:48:04,140 --> 04:48:05,280
our neighborhoods destroyed. We

8324
04:48:05,280 --> 04:48:07,200
spent quite a bit of time

8325
04:48:07,200 --> 04:48:09,400
protecting them. Turns out the

8326
04:48:09,400 --> 04:48:11,110
council actually works for us.

8327
04:48:11,110 --> 04:48:13,260
so if the council votes yes for

8328
04:48:13,260 --> 04:48:15,220
this. Anyone that votes for

8329
04:48:15,220 --> 04:48:16,150
this and raise >> your hand.

8330
04:48:16,150 --> 04:48:17,200
I'm against it. No clapping.

8331
04:48:17,200 --> 04:48:18,240
are you against it? Raise your

8332
04:48:18,240 --> 04:48:20,424
hand. No clapping. Okay.

8333
04:48:21,000 --> 04:48:23,100
everyone I've talked to is

8334
04:48:23,100 --> 04:48:24,260
vietnamese lee against this.

8335
04:48:24,260 --> 04:48:27,170
all right. So any council

8336
04:48:27,170 --> 04:48:30,200
person that votes to to do this

8337
04:48:30,200 --> 04:48:32,700
we are going to recall and

8338
04:48:32,700 --> 04:48:33,700
it'll be about the easiest

8339
04:48:33,700 --> 04:48:35,180
recall we'll ever see. Okay.

8340
04:48:35,180 --> 04:48:36,180
and I know you want to run

8341
04:48:36,180 --> 04:48:38,180
again in 28. I read the article

8342
04:48:38,180 --> 04:48:40,210
you won't be around. So there

8343
04:48:40,210 --> 04:48:43,621
you go. Thank you. Next speaker

8344
04:48:45,220 --> 04:48:48,622
>> we need to ask >> yourself a

8345
04:48:51,250 --> 04:48:53,110
simple question what kind

8346
04:48:53,110 --> 04:48:55,200
of city do we want san jose to

8347
04:48:55,200 --> 04:48:57,170
be? For generations people have

8348
04:48:57,170 --> 04:48:59,000
worked their entire lives to

8349
04:48:59,000 --> 04:49:01,000
buy in a mature, established

8350
04:49:01,000 --> 04:49:03,100
neighborhood. They paid their

8351
04:49:03,100 --> 04:49:04,290
mortgages, property taxes and

8352
04:49:04,290 --> 04:49:06,280
their fair share. That home was

8353
04:49:06,280 --> 04:49:08,120
more than an investment. It was

8354
04:49:08,120 --> 04:49:11,200
an american dream. This isn't

8355
04:49:11,200 --> 04:49:12,280
simply about adding housing. It

8356
04:49:12,280 --> 04:49:14,700
fundamentally changes the

8357
04:49:14,700 --> 04:49:15,160
character of a neighborhood.

8358
04:49:15,160 --> 04:49:17,100
the families worked decades to

8359
04:49:17,100 --> 04:49:20,240
create and preserve. We have to

8360
04:49:20,240 --> 04:49:22,100
ask are we solving a housing

8361
04:49:22,100 --> 04:49:24,500
problem? Are we sacrificing the

8362
04:49:24,500 --> 04:49:25,280
quality of life and established

8363
04:49:25,280 --> 04:49:27,150
neighborhoods because of higher

8364
04:49:27,150 --> 04:49:29,150
density produces more tax

8365
04:49:29,150 --> 04:49:31,200
revenue and development fees?

8366
04:49:31,200 --> 04:49:33,240
we need responsible growth like

8367
04:49:33,240 --> 04:49:36,200
growth at any cost. Please

8368
04:49:36,200 --> 04:49:37,200
protect our mature

8369
04:49:37,200 --> 04:49:38,120
neighborhoods. Respect the

8370
04:49:38,120 --> 04:49:39,120
people who work their whole

8371
04:49:39,120 --> 04:49:41,180
lives to own them and make sure

8372
04:49:41,180 --> 04:49:43,120
san jose remains the city where

8373
04:49:43,120 --> 04:49:46,120
the american dream is protected

8374
04:49:46,120 --> 04:49:48,412
not taken away. >> thanks.

8375
04:49:49,900 --> 04:49:51,130
thank you. Next speaker >>

8376
04:49:51,130 --> 04:49:53,170
alice and katherine matheson.

8377
04:49:53,170 --> 04:49:56,140
come on down. Good evening.

8378
04:49:56,140 --> 04:49:57,150
forgive me if I don't make

8379
04:49:57,150 --> 04:49:59,150
sense. I'm very nervous. I'm

8380
04:49:59,150 --> 04:50:00,290
sorry. Should you not sign as a

8381
04:50:00,290 --> 04:50:02,800
state and an intern for vote on

8382
04:50:02,800 --> 04:50:03,230
climate in san jose

8383
04:50:03,230 --> 04:50:04,260
environmentally sustainable

8384
04:50:04,260 --> 04:50:05,290
land use practices are

8385
04:50:05,290 --> 04:50:07,290
imperative for our city despite

8386
04:50:07,290 --> 04:50:09,100
a dedicated section for

8387
04:50:09,100 --> 04:50:10,180
environmental stewardship. The

8388
04:50:10,180 --> 04:50:11,240
general plan does not outline

8389
04:50:11,240 --> 04:50:12,280
public health or environmental

8390
04:50:12,280 --> 04:50:14,500
studies and regulations high

8391
04:50:14,500 --> 04:50:15,150
energy demanding buildings.

8392
04:50:15,150 --> 04:50:16,150
this city has stressed its

8393
04:50:16,150 --> 04:50:17,160
commitment to implementing

8394
04:50:17,160 --> 04:50:18,120
rigorous environmental

8395
04:50:18,120 --> 04:50:19,160
standards on water and energy

8396
04:50:19,160 --> 04:50:21,200
use. However, noise ordinance

8397
04:50:21,200 --> 04:50:22,600
noncompliance and reports

8398
04:50:22,600 --> 04:50:23,000
of rolling blackouts for

8399
04:50:23,000 --> 04:50:24,800
residents the use of fossil

8400
04:50:24,800 --> 04:50:25,110
fuel generators for backup

8401
04:50:25,110 --> 04:50:26,280
power and potable water line

8402
04:50:26,280 --> 04:50:28,600
easements are inadequate to

8403
04:50:28,600 --> 04:50:29,270
achieve this city's stated

8404
04:50:29,270 --> 04:50:31,280
commitments. The lack of care

8405
04:50:31,280 --> 04:50:32,250
in the general plan is

8406
04:50:32,250 --> 04:50:33,270
worrisome in the lead up to

8407
04:50:33,270 --> 04:50:35,260
developing uniform standards. I

8408
04:50:35,260 --> 04:50:37,200
urge this council to include

8409
04:50:37,200 --> 04:50:38,900
plans for both cumulative

8410
04:50:38,900 --> 04:50:39,230
impact studies and robust rules

8411
04:50:39,230 --> 04:50:41,500
for covering water and clean

8412
04:50:41,500 --> 04:50:42,200
power use for such buildings.

8413
04:50:42,200 --> 04:50:44,170
thank you so much. Thank you.

8414
04:50:44,170 --> 04:50:46,417
next speaker. Also brenda

8415
04:50:47,800 --> 04:50:50,608
doleman, come on down. >> I'm

8416
04:50:54,160 --> 04:50:56,100
here to urge you to vote no on

8417
04:50:56,100 --> 04:50:59,100
item 10.3. It's missing middle

8418
04:50:59,110 --> 04:51:01,240
mom sense. This proposal goes

8419
04:51:01,240 --> 04:51:02,270
far beyond any state

8420
04:51:02,270 --> 04:51:04,210
requirement. No other city in

8421
04:51:04,210 --> 04:51:05,290
santa clara county goes it

8422
04:51:05,290 --> 04:51:07,300
comes anywhere close to

8423
04:51:07,300 --> 04:51:08,100
sweeping. It would allow a

8424
04:51:08,100 --> 04:51:09,120
three story building high

8425
04:51:09,120 --> 04:51:10,280
density of virtually any

8426
04:51:10,280 --> 04:51:13,300
residential lot with no onsite

8427
04:51:13,300 --> 04:51:14,290
parking requirement and no

8428
04:51:14,290 --> 04:51:16,160
firebreak approval. Once it's

8429
04:51:16,160 --> 04:51:18,500
on the books these projects

8430
04:51:18,500 --> 04:51:19,220
skip public hearings, planning

8431
04:51:19,220 --> 04:51:21,600
commissions review or even

8432
04:51:21,600 --> 04:51:23,130
council vote. The impacts are

8433
04:51:23,130 --> 04:51:25,800
permanent. More cars are

8434
04:51:25,800 --> 04:51:27,000
already on already crowded

8435
04:51:27,000 --> 04:51:28,140
streets and a strain on

8436
04:51:28,140 --> 04:51:29,180
utilities and roads and

8437
04:51:29,180 --> 04:51:30,230
according to the city's own

8438
04:51:30,230 --> 04:51:32,270
study. Little to no affordable

8439
04:51:32,270 --> 04:51:34,230
housing is even produced.

8440
04:51:34,230 --> 04:51:36,900
limited public comment by so

8441
04:51:36,900 --> 04:51:37,260
far cannot be mistaken for

8442
04:51:37,260 --> 04:51:39,230
support. Many of us are only

8443
04:51:39,230 --> 04:51:42,900
now learning about how far road

8444
04:51:42,900 --> 04:51:43,210
and irreversible these changes

8445
04:51:43,210 --> 04:51:45,800
are. Please reject this

8446
04:51:45,800 --> 04:51:46,260
proposal at least take it off

8447
04:51:46,260 --> 04:51:48,600
the consent calendar and allow

8448
04:51:48,600 --> 04:51:51,600
for public hearing at least.

8449
04:51:52,200 --> 04:51:55,620
thank you. Next speaker. Do you

8450
04:52:01,260 --> 04:52:03,200
know what fulfilling an

8451
04:52:03,200 --> 04:52:04,250
american dream means? It's not

8452
04:52:04,250 --> 04:52:06,230
living in a condo, an apartment

8453
04:52:06,230 --> 04:52:09,500
or in some high density housing

8454
04:52:09,500 --> 04:52:11,200
but the ability to live in a

8455
04:52:11,200 --> 04:52:13,200
single family house with our

8456
04:52:13,200 --> 04:52:15,300
own little yard. It's absurd

8457
04:52:15,300 --> 04:52:16,900
that now you're seriously

8458
04:52:16,900 --> 04:52:17,260
proposing to destroy every

8459
04:52:17,260 --> 04:52:19,150
single family and neighborhood

8460
04:52:19,150 --> 04:52:21,110
permanently on the neighborhood

8461
04:52:21,110 --> 04:52:23,800
to build high density housing

8462
04:52:23,800 --> 04:52:25,700
on single family lots. I'm

8463
04:52:25,700 --> 04:52:26,150
guessing that all >> of you are

8464
04:52:26,150 --> 04:52:27,250
currently living in your own

8465
04:52:27,250 --> 04:52:29,170
single family home without an a

8466
04:52:29,170 --> 04:52:31,200
unit or even sitting in an

8467
04:52:31,200 --> 04:52:32,120
apartment right next to your

8468
04:52:32,120 --> 04:52:34,190
house. So why would you wish

8469
04:52:34,190 --> 04:52:35,270
other people to live in such a

8470
04:52:35,270 --> 04:52:38,800
condition? So say it's not hong

8471
04:52:38,800 --> 04:52:40,110
kong. There is no lack of space

8472
04:52:40,110 --> 04:52:41,270
to provide additional apartment

8473
04:52:41,270 --> 04:52:43,700
building without messing with

8474
04:52:43,700 --> 04:52:44,180
the existing single family

8475
04:52:44,180 --> 04:52:46,200
neighborhood. Just look

8476
04:52:46,200 --> 04:52:47,230
at block and block of vacant

8477
04:52:47,230 --> 04:52:49,200
old high tech building in north

8478
04:52:49,200 --> 04:52:51,230
san jose with zero productive

8479
04:52:51,230 --> 04:52:53,190
use. Please vote no for this

8480
04:52:53,190 --> 04:52:55,260
nonsensical proposal. You do

8481
04:52:55,260 --> 04:52:57,110
not want to be remembered as

8482
04:52:57,110 --> 04:52:58,180
the one who permanently

8483
04:52:58,180 --> 04:53:01,120
destroys >> san jose and thank

8484
04:53:01,120 --> 04:53:04,612
our next speaker. >> I'm going

8485
04:53:07,200 --> 04:53:10,210
to call wait before there and

8486
04:53:10,210 --> 04:53:13,621
I've already spoken. So I >>

8487
04:53:14,300 --> 04:53:15,170
know you can only speak once on

8488
04:53:15,170 --> 04:53:17,110
each item. I'm sorry. Thank

8489
04:53:17,110 --> 04:53:20,130
you. I'm going to >> go ahead

8490
04:53:20,130 --> 04:53:21,170
and come up to the microphone.

8491
04:53:21,170 --> 04:53:22,190
before you speak I'm going to

8492
04:53:22,190 --> 04:53:24,290
call five people online. Next

8493
04:53:24,290 --> 04:53:25,210
I'm going to go ahead and say

8494
04:53:25,210 --> 04:53:27,180
their names so they can kind

8495
04:53:27,180 --> 04:53:30,100
of wake up. Caller 7 to 0 five

8496
04:53:30,100 --> 04:53:32,230
brian, diane todd and james >>

8497
04:53:32,230 --> 04:53:35,230
patterson. Go ahead. Mayor and

8498
04:53:36,210 --> 04:53:38,120
council members reject the

8499
04:53:38,120 --> 04:53:39,160
missing middle >> framework

8500
04:53:39,160 --> 04:53:41,100
recommendation in the general

8501
04:53:41,100 --> 04:53:43,000
plan for your review. San jose

8502
04:53:43,000 --> 04:53:44,230
residents do not want three

8503
04:53:44,230 --> 04:53:46,423
storey apartment complexes by

8504
04:53:47,000 --> 04:53:48,180
right in residential

8505
04:53:48,180 --> 04:53:50,100
neighborhoods without parking.

8506
04:53:50,100 --> 04:53:51,220
smart growth means

8507
04:53:51,220 --> 04:53:53,100
concentrating density along

8508
04:53:53,100 --> 04:53:54,270
commercial corridors, transit

8509
04:53:54,270 --> 04:53:56,260
hubs not quiet residential

8510
04:53:56,260 --> 04:53:58,180
streets while urban sprawl

8511
04:53:58,180 --> 04:54:00,200
creates long term municipal

8512
04:54:00,200 --> 04:54:02,402
budget deficits. Sb 79 already

8513
04:54:03,150 --> 04:54:05,150
impacts over 40,000 parcels

8514
04:54:06,280 --> 04:54:08,230
near transit stops unlocking up

8515
04:54:08,230 --> 04:54:10,270
to 500,000 units for decades to

8516
04:54:10,270 --> 04:54:13,400
come. Sb >> nine permits four

8517
04:54:13,400 --> 04:54:15,000
units per lot to not go beyond

8518
04:54:15,000 --> 04:54:16,210
state minimums to strain our

8519
04:54:16,210 --> 04:54:18,700
infrastructure, stretch

8520
04:54:18,700 --> 04:54:20,220
emergency services and worsen

8521
04:54:20,220 --> 04:54:23,800
our job to housing ratio cap

8522
04:54:23,800 --> 04:54:25,300
residential neighborhood

8523
04:54:25,300 --> 04:54:27,110
density at four units per lot.

8524
04:54:27,110 --> 04:54:28,240
we need direct leadership.

8525
04:54:28,240 --> 04:54:30,400
please direct our planning

8526
04:54:30,400 --> 04:54:32,700
director city manager ig our

8527
04:54:32,700 --> 04:54:35,160
team to aggressively lobby hk a

8528
04:54:35,160 --> 04:54:38,300
bag drop off in sacramento.

8529
04:54:38,300 --> 04:54:39,150
thank you. That's >> your time.

8530
04:54:39,150 --> 04:54:41,415
caller 7205 please press star

8531
04:54:42,300 --> 04:54:45,603
six to unmute >> and that's

8532
04:54:46,100 --> 04:54:48,700
your last four digits of your

8533
04:54:48,700 --> 04:54:51,700
number. >> hello. Yes go ahead.

8534
04:54:54,150 --> 04:54:56,600
yes >> I'm sj born and raised

8535
04:54:56,600 --> 04:54:58,500
south san jose will go in high

8536
04:54:58,500 --> 04:55:00,100
school class of 2000. I got to

8537
04:55:00,100 --> 04:55:01,120
say the beauty of willow glen

8538
04:55:01,120 --> 04:55:03,130
is its long standing trees,

8539
04:55:03,130 --> 04:55:05,700
nature communities and single

8540
04:55:05,700 --> 04:55:07,100
family homes. This is pure

8541
04:55:07,100 --> 04:55:09,110
developer greed. There are

8542
04:55:09,110 --> 04:55:11,800
better places for small condos

8543
04:55:11,800 --> 04:55:12,250
especially along monterey road

8544
04:55:12,250 --> 04:55:15,200
towards downtown. Don't ruin

8545
04:55:15,200 --> 04:55:16,200
san jose. Be careful of the

8546
04:55:16,200 --> 04:55:18,170
precedence that we set. If

8547
04:55:18,170 --> 04:55:20,260
single family homes for single

8548
04:55:20,260 --> 04:55:22,260
families. >> thank you. >>

8549
04:55:23,110 --> 04:55:26,110
thank you brian followed by

8550
04:55:27,000 --> 04:55:31,200
diane. Thank you. I can't see

8551
04:55:32,500 --> 04:55:33,190
the place where I was

8552
04:55:33,190 --> 04:55:35,150
at because I signed something

8553
04:55:35,150 --> 04:55:36,270
but I had a house and it

8554
04:55:36,270 --> 04:55:39,700
disappeared. And now you can

8555
04:55:39,700 --> 04:55:40,800
go out there and visit and

8556
04:55:40,800 --> 04:55:41,290
there's literally thousands

8557
04:55:41,290 --> 04:55:44,170
of units on top of there. If

8558
04:55:44,170 --> 04:55:45,140
people tell you they're going

8559
04:55:45,140 --> 04:55:47,260
to build moderately it gravity

8560
04:55:47,260 --> 04:55:49,280
will fail before that happens.

8561
04:55:49,280 --> 04:55:51,110
sometime what I'm going to I

8562
04:55:51,110 --> 04:55:52,190
wrote an email that covers all

8563
04:55:52,190 --> 04:55:54,120
the stuff everybody said.

8564
04:55:54,120 --> 04:55:55,180
sometimes you want to walk

8565
04:55:55,180 --> 04:55:58,100
outside, look up and see the

8566
04:55:58,100 --> 04:55:59,800
stars. I understand that's

8567
04:55:59,800 --> 04:56:01,800
emotional and so it doesn't

8568
04:56:01,800 --> 04:56:03,220
have any meaning and never have

8569
04:56:03,220 --> 04:56:07,222
but I can just tell you walk

8570
04:56:08,000 --> 04:56:09,140
softly because once this stuff

8571
04:56:09,140 --> 04:56:11,210
gets in place it won't go away

8572
04:56:11,210 --> 04:56:13,230
and they will go to the maximum

8573
04:56:13,230 --> 04:56:15,700
whenever they get a chance.

8574
04:56:15,700 --> 04:56:18,700
thank you. Thank >> you, diane

8575
04:56:18,250 --> 04:56:21,625
followed by todd in high high.

8576
04:56:28,700 --> 04:56:30,230
please both know to submit our

8577
04:56:30,230 --> 04:56:32,200
recommendation. The general

8578
04:56:32,200 --> 04:56:35,620
plan has an urban reserve area.

8579
04:56:37,290 --> 04:56:41,120
why isn't the urban area being

8580
04:56:41,120 --> 04:56:43,160
considered for high density

8581
04:56:43,160 --> 04:56:46,160
housing plan planning? Is that

8582
04:56:46,230 --> 04:56:49,210
of. Isn't this the ideal

8583
04:56:49,210 --> 04:56:51,100
situation >> to use that

8584
04:56:51,100 --> 04:56:54,200
reserve? There is a lot of land

8585
04:56:54,200 --> 04:56:57,200
there that is not open space.

8586
04:56:57,200 --> 04:57:00,150
it has almost zero density. I

8587
04:57:00,150 --> 04:57:03,000
recommended to use that are

8588
04:57:03,000 --> 04:57:05,200
going to visit the area for the

8589
04:57:05,200 --> 04:57:07,100
estate certification instead

8590
04:57:07,100 --> 04:57:08,170
of disrupting all the

8591
04:57:08,170 --> 04:57:10,120
neighborhood of the city. Thank

8592
04:57:10,120 --> 04:57:12,412
you. >> thank you, todd

8593
04:57:14,900 --> 04:57:17,900
followed by james. Hello. When

8594
04:57:23,900 --> 04:57:25,120
so many residents take the time

8595
04:57:25,120 --> 04:57:27,220
to oppose this agenda item only

8596
04:57:27,220 --> 04:57:29,422
to see memorandums offering

8597
04:57:30,110 --> 04:57:32,100
concessions to wealthier

8598
04:57:32,100 --> 04:57:35,601
suburban todd you cut out these

8599
04:57:43,300 --> 04:57:44,260
>> plans purposely pit

8600
04:57:44,260 --> 04:57:46,426
communities against each other

8601
04:57:47,900 --> 04:57:49,900
while residents simply struggle

8602
04:57:49,900 --> 04:57:51,210
to protect their neighborhoods.

8603
04:57:51,210 --> 04:57:53,100
this entire process feels

8604
04:57:53,100 --> 04:57:55,160
performative and our concerns

8605
04:57:55,160 --> 04:57:58,160
are ultimately ignored. I live

8606
04:57:58,220 --> 04:58:00,120
in an urban transit village

8607
04:58:00,120 --> 04:58:02,900
area so I'm here to support

8608
04:58:02,900 --> 04:58:03,240
other neighborhoods and

8609
04:58:03,240 --> 04:58:05,170
advocate for what is best for

8610
04:58:05,170 --> 04:58:07,170
san jose as a whole. We haven't

8611
04:58:07,170 --> 04:58:09,900
even seen the impacts of the

8612
04:58:09,900 --> 04:58:11,140
urban villages or these new

8613
04:58:11,140 --> 04:58:13,500
state laws yet and we are

8614
04:58:13,500 --> 04:58:15,400
already moving to implement

8615
04:58:15,400 --> 04:58:16,240
blanket policies that strip

8616
04:58:16,240 --> 04:58:19,700
away local oversight. Giving up

8617
04:58:19,700 --> 04:58:22,607
our voice makes no sense. Also

8618
04:58:23,170 --> 04:58:24,260
no parking >> needed near

8619
04:58:24,260 --> 04:58:27,260
trent. Thank you james. Before

8620
04:58:28,220 --> 04:58:30,800
I click allow to speak I'm

8621
04:58:30,800 --> 04:58:32,100
going to call a few names for

8622
04:58:32,100 --> 04:58:33,900
people in person so you can

8623
04:58:33,900 --> 04:58:34,120
make your way down while james

8624
04:58:34,120 --> 04:58:37,200
is speaking. I have cole buford

8625
04:58:37,200 --> 04:58:40,620
bar a c quack. >> it looks

8626
04:58:41,250 --> 04:58:45,225
like. So I guess why wake sioux

8627
04:58:46,220 --> 04:58:49,220
>> and ute or garza? Okay

8628
04:58:51,130 --> 04:58:53,100
james, I'm letting you speak

8629
04:58:53,100 --> 04:58:56,610
now. >> I reso reside in oak

8630
04:58:58,140 --> 04:58:59,230
grove neighborhood in district

8631
04:58:59,230 --> 04:59:02,180
two. Having seen impacts on

8632
04:59:02,180 --> 04:59:03,270
my neighborhood when apartments

8633
04:59:03,270 --> 04:59:05,300
were allowed to change their

8634
04:59:05,300 --> 04:59:07,000
parking rules from multiple

8635
04:59:07,000 --> 04:59:09,280
cars for free to one free and

8636
04:59:09,280 --> 04:59:12,600
any others a monthly charge in

8637
04:59:12,600 --> 04:59:13,250
the carnage it laid to the

8638
04:59:13,250 --> 04:59:15,170
surrounding neighbors. I

8639
04:59:15,170 --> 04:59:17,700
emphatically say this is a

8640
04:59:17,700 --> 04:59:19,120
poorly thought out solution and

8641
04:59:19,120 --> 04:59:21,600
I would expect the city council

8642
04:59:21,600 --> 04:59:23,200
and mayor to vote no on this

8643
04:59:23,200 --> 04:59:24,230
item. This is in direct

8644
04:59:24,230 --> 04:59:27,200
conflict to beautify sj as it

8645
04:59:27,200 --> 04:59:28,250
will lead to beautiful

8646
04:59:28,250 --> 04:59:30,300
neighborhoods. It will

8647
04:59:30,300 --> 04:59:31,160
ultimately force neighbor

8648
04:59:31,160 --> 04:59:33,416
against neighbor parking wars.

8649
04:59:34,100 --> 04:59:35,120
to see actual impacts just

8650
04:59:35,120 --> 04:59:36,210
stroll down walnut blossom

8651
04:59:36,210 --> 04:59:37,210
avenue and the surrounding

8652
04:59:37,210 --> 04:59:38,200
streets across from the

8653
04:59:38,200 --> 04:59:40,420
apartments including haze and

8654
04:59:41,000 --> 04:59:43,200
lead avenue in the evening and

8655
04:59:43,200 --> 04:59:45,210
talk to residents in that area.

8656
04:59:45,210 --> 04:59:47,230
this will break the very fibers

8657
04:59:47,230 --> 04:59:48,230
of a good neighborhood if

8658
04:59:48,230 --> 04:59:50,120
allowed to move forward. I

8659
04:59:50,120 --> 04:59:52,500
expect nonsense ideas like this

8660
04:59:52,500 --> 04:59:53,110
from the current presidential

8661
04:59:53,110 --> 04:59:55,900
administration but not from

8662
04:59:55,900 --> 04:59:57,230
my city leaders. I saw input

8663
04:59:57,230 --> 04:59:59,210
posted indicating the city that

8664
04:59:59,210 --> 05:00:02,190
your >> time next speaker in

8665
05:00:02,190 --> 05:00:05,619
person. Hello. My name's cole.

8666
05:00:08,200 --> 05:00:09,280
>> I do agree with a lot

8667
05:00:09,280 --> 05:00:11,270
of other folks that you know,

8668
05:00:11,270 --> 05:00:13,210
no parking minimum would be a

8669
05:00:13,210 --> 05:00:16,210
bad idea because people have

8670
05:00:17,000 --> 05:00:18,220
cars and made a move into these

8671
05:00:18,220 --> 05:00:21,100
spots hoping to you know will

8672
05:00:21,100 --> 05:00:22,160
park on the street anyways and

8673
05:00:22,160 --> 05:00:24,170
that it does create lot

8674
05:00:24,170 --> 05:00:26,400
of difficulties for working

8675
05:00:26,400 --> 05:00:29,400
class folks. Also I would

8676
05:00:31,140 --> 05:00:33,230
recommend that the general plan

8677
05:00:33,230 --> 05:00:35,260
also include any kind

8678
05:00:35,260 --> 05:00:38,626
of reviews of data centers or

8679
05:00:39,160 --> 05:00:42,616
large energy projects as I do

8680
05:00:43,120 --> 05:00:44,270
believe in the humanist values

8681
05:00:44,270 --> 05:00:47,220
of 2040 plan such as healthy

8682
05:00:47,220 --> 05:00:50,220
neighborhoods and you know data

8683
05:00:51,800 --> 05:00:53,000
centers are also hungry for

8684
05:00:53,000 --> 05:00:55,110
land as well and I hope that

8685
05:00:55,110 --> 05:00:56,200
these data centers are not

8686
05:00:56,200 --> 05:00:58,400
taking priority over more

8687
05:00:58,400 --> 05:01:00,404
housing. >> thank you. Thank

8688
05:01:02,180 --> 05:01:06,218
you. Next speaker I'll wait for

8689
05:01:07,180 --> 05:01:10,110
mahan. He could hear you in the

8690
05:01:10,110 --> 05:01:12,180
back. >> council members I'm

8691
05:01:12,180 --> 05:01:14,130
guilford bar for two years in

8692
05:01:14,130 --> 05:01:16,413
district ten. Please reject

8693
05:01:18,200 --> 05:01:20,110
item 10.3 the proposal >> would

8694
05:01:20,110 --> 05:01:22,110
quadruple density in

8695
05:01:22,270 --> 05:01:24,240
neighborhoods designed for

8696
05:01:24,240 --> 05:01:26,250
single family homes allowing

8697
05:01:26,250 --> 05:01:29,200
for two six units by right no

8698
05:01:29,200 --> 05:01:31,150
parking requirements, no public

8699
05:01:31,150 --> 05:01:33,180
hearings that means no notice,

8700
05:01:33,180 --> 05:01:36,600
no neighbor input, no account

8701
05:01:36,600 --> 05:01:38,400
just permanent citywide

8702
05:01:38,400 --> 05:01:40,210
rezoning. Here's what troubles

8703
05:01:40,210 --> 05:01:42,190
me most saturday doesn't >>

8704
05:01:42,190 --> 05:01:44,200
need this to meet state

8705
05:01:44,200 --> 05:01:47,200
mandate. We can hit our 62,000

8706
05:01:48,100 --> 05:01:49,220
target homes under the existing

8707
05:01:49,220 --> 05:01:51,160
general plan which already

8708
05:01:51,160 --> 05:01:53,170
directs growth toward transit

8709
05:01:53,170 --> 05:01:55,250
corridors. This isn't about

8710
05:01:55,250 --> 05:01:57,260
opposing more housing. It's

8711
05:01:57,260 --> 05:01:59,140
about opposing a permanent >>

8712
05:01:59,140 --> 05:02:01,414
change that bypasses residents,

8713
05:02:02,400 --> 05:02:04,400
invites investor driven

8714
05:02:04,500 --> 05:02:06,500
redevelopment and eliminates

8715
05:02:06,220 --> 05:02:09,800
public voice in there. >> thank

8716
05:02:09,800 --> 05:02:10,270
you that your time? Next

8717
05:02:10,270 --> 05:02:13,627
speaker. >> hi my name is all

8718
05:02:17,150 --> 05:02:19,500
too I am from dayton. Two

8719
05:02:19,500 --> 05:02:20,260
things one you don't have a

8720
05:02:20,260 --> 05:02:22,250
walkable city and some say if

8721
05:02:22,250 --> 05:02:25,100
you want to build housing that

8722
05:02:25,100 --> 05:02:28,100
overcrowded or places it will

8723
05:02:28,600 --> 05:02:31,180
lead to a place where nobody

8724
05:02:31,180 --> 05:02:32,290
can park and that means you

8725
05:02:32,290 --> 05:02:34,230
need to build a walkable city

8726
05:02:34,230 --> 05:02:37,600
first. >> second, I would you

8727
05:02:37,600 --> 05:02:37,290
like to look at the

8728
05:02:37,290 --> 05:02:39,290
sociological sociological

8729
05:02:40,120 --> 05:02:43,900
impact this has? First of all,

8730
05:02:43,900 --> 05:02:45,130
if you have overcrowding in

8731
05:02:45,130 --> 05:02:48,600
places you will get people

8732
05:02:48,600 --> 05:02:50,800
having more crime, higher crime

8733
05:02:50,800 --> 05:02:51,800
rates, you will have more

8734
05:02:51,800 --> 05:02:52,260
vandalism. You will have stuff

8735
05:02:52,260 --> 05:02:56,226
like more what's it called road

8736
05:02:57,210 --> 05:03:00,621
rage and you will make people

8737
05:03:01,130 --> 05:03:02,260
not being proud in their

8738
05:03:02,260 --> 05:03:04,120
neighborhoods anymore because

8739
05:03:04,120 --> 05:03:06,190
if you want to have people have

8740
05:03:06,190 --> 05:03:08,200
pride in something they need to

8741
05:03:08,200 --> 05:03:10,000
have a say in something. Thank

8742
05:03:10,000 --> 05:03:12,200
you. Thank you. Next speaker

8743
05:03:12,200 --> 05:03:14,200
michael bryant. Come on down,

8744
05:03:14,200 --> 05:03:17,700
katherine. Look, no last name.

8745
05:03:17,700 --> 05:03:18,270
go >> ahead. I urge you to

8746
05:03:18,270 --> 05:03:20,800
reject this so-called missing

8747
05:03:20,800 --> 05:03:21,250
middle housing plan forcing up

8748
05:03:21,250 --> 05:03:23,150
to 16 unit apartment buildings

8749
05:03:23,150 --> 05:03:24,170
into single family home

8750
05:03:24,170 --> 05:03:26,600
neighborhoods with no onset

8751
05:03:26,600 --> 05:03:27,150
parking, drastically reduced

8752
05:03:27,150 --> 05:03:29,900
setbacks and no public input

8753
05:03:29,900 --> 05:03:30,160
will not magically produce

8754
05:03:30,160 --> 05:03:32,900
lower income homes. That's not

8755
05:03:32,900 --> 05:03:33,110
leadership. That's a pipe

8756
05:03:33,110 --> 05:03:34,270
dream. This doesn't improve the

8757
05:03:34,270 --> 05:03:36,170
quality of life for residents

8758
05:03:36,170 --> 05:03:37,290
of san jose. Instead it

8759
05:03:37,290 --> 05:03:39,100
enriches investors and

8760
05:03:39,100 --> 05:03:40,140
developers. This plan will

8761
05:03:40,140 --> 05:03:41,170
continue to destroy the

8762
05:03:41,170 --> 05:03:42,240
standard of living and impact

8763
05:03:42,240 --> 05:03:44,200
the safety of residents in your

8764
05:03:44,200 --> 05:03:45,270
community. San jose has

8765
05:03:45,270 --> 05:03:46,220
certainly had its share

8766
05:03:46,220 --> 05:03:47,230
of problems over the last

8767
05:03:47,230 --> 05:03:49,800
years. The california state

8768
05:03:49,800 --> 05:03:50,130
auditor found that not only

8769
05:03:50,130 --> 05:03:52,000
could the 300 million set aside

8770
05:03:52,000 --> 05:03:53,160
to help the homeless not be

8771
05:03:53,160 --> 05:03:54,280
adequately accounted for but

8772
05:03:54,280 --> 05:03:56,260
also that san jose had no

8773
05:03:56,260 --> 05:03:58,100
cohesive plan for building

8774
05:03:58,100 --> 05:03:59,160
affordable homes. This is

8775
05:03:59,160 --> 05:04:01,200
anything but a cohesive plan.

8776
05:04:01,200 --> 05:04:03,220
this is madness. As noted, this

8777
05:04:03,220 --> 05:04:05,140
plan is not needed to achieve

8778
05:04:05,140 --> 05:04:07,300
the current reno numbers.

8779
05:04:07,300 --> 05:04:08,240
future reno developments should

8780
05:04:08,240 --> 05:04:10,160
be planned near transit. Why

8781
05:04:10,160 --> 05:04:11,170
would you want to be on record

8782
05:04:11,170 --> 05:04:12,280
in contributing to the decline

8783
05:04:12,280 --> 05:04:14,170
of quality of life in san jose?

8784
05:04:14,170 --> 05:04:15,270
your job is to make san jose

8785
05:04:15,270 --> 05:04:18,160
better and safer. Vote >> now.

8786
05:04:18,160 --> 05:04:21,800
thank you, mr. Speaker. I >>

8787
05:04:21,800 --> 05:04:23,210
ask you again to please use

8788
05:04:23,210 --> 05:04:25,120
your jazz >> hands or however

8789
05:04:25,120 --> 05:04:26,240
you want to do it quietly so

8790
05:04:26,240 --> 05:04:28,500
that we can get through these

8791
05:04:28,500 --> 05:04:30,150
all quietly and respectfully.

8792
05:04:30,150 --> 05:04:32,000
>> yeah, because you want to

8793
05:04:32,000 --> 05:04:33,170
hear people like me, don't you?

8794
05:04:33,170 --> 05:04:35,150
right. You want to hear people

8795
05:04:35,150 --> 05:04:36,260
like me because I vote for you

8796
05:04:36,260 --> 05:04:38,220
to reject this. Do you guys

8797
05:04:38,220 --> 05:04:40,700
want to live next door >> to a

8798
05:04:40,700 --> 05:04:42,200
housing project I would build?

8799
05:04:42,200 --> 05:04:44,500
I don't think so. I would build

8800
05:04:44,500 --> 05:04:45,250
a mini cruise ship if anyone

8801
05:04:45,250 --> 05:04:47,190
knows what a cruise ship is.

8802
05:04:47,190 --> 05:04:49,180
okay. Yeah. People know, don't

8803
05:04:49,180 --> 05:04:52,200
they? Wouldn't you? I mean any

8804
05:04:52,200 --> 05:04:53,800
of you. Would you want me to

8805
05:04:53,800 --> 05:04:54,190
live next door to you and build

8806
05:04:54,190 --> 05:04:56,400
something? Ask yourself that

8807
05:04:56,400 --> 05:04:57,270
any one of you on the dais. Ask

8808
05:04:57,270 --> 05:04:58,200
yourself if you want to live

8809
05:04:58,200 --> 05:05:00,300
next door to me. I don't think

8810
05:05:00,300 --> 05:05:02,900
so. What I would build you

8811
05:05:02,900 --> 05:05:04,100
wouldn't like you could turn

8812
05:05:04,100 --> 05:05:05,230
into section eight. That could

8813
05:05:05,230 --> 05:05:07,700
be terrible, wouldn't it? Could

8814
05:05:07,700 --> 05:05:08,270
you imagine that this thing is

8815
05:05:08,270 --> 05:05:10,170
designed for specular data's

8816
05:05:10,170 --> 05:05:12,417
flippers developers? Just take

8817
05:05:13,800 --> 05:05:15,120
a look at the >> fair downtown.

8818
05:05:15,120 --> 05:05:16,180
no one wants to live in it.

8819
05:05:16,180 --> 05:05:18,400
that was approved of high

8820
05:05:18,400 --> 05:05:20,900
density housing. I call it the

8821
05:05:20,900 --> 05:05:22,100
fail. And that's exactly what

8822
05:05:22,100 --> 05:05:24,100
this is going to be. If if you

8823
05:05:24,100 --> 05:05:26,800
guys allow this to happen, it's

8824
05:05:26,800 --> 05:05:27,170
going to is going to turn our

8825
05:05:27,170 --> 05:05:29,200
neighborhoods into something

8826
05:05:29,200 --> 05:05:30,600
that you don't want to live in

8827
05:05:30,600 --> 05:05:31,250
and you don't want me to live

8828
05:05:31,250 --> 05:05:33,200
next door to you if you vote

8829
05:05:33,200 --> 05:05:34,500
for this because you wouldn't

8830
05:05:34,500 --> 05:05:35,220
like I could guaran >> thank

8831
05:05:35,220 --> 05:05:37,120
you that your time. Darrell

8832
05:05:37,120 --> 05:05:40,612
come on down. And and melissa,

8833
05:05:46,400 --> 05:05:48,120
I >> strongly urge you to vote

8834
05:05:48,120 --> 05:05:50,200
no on the permanent stay

8835
05:05:50,200 --> 05:05:52,210
missing middle proposal. The

8836
05:05:52,210 --> 05:05:54,230
reason why is I can't describe

8837
05:05:54,230 --> 05:05:57,230
to you. According to this plan,

8838
05:05:57,230 --> 05:06:00,300
my rising neighbor can build up

8839
05:06:00,300 --> 05:06:03,000
to six housing units >> in

8840
05:06:03,000 --> 05:06:05,700
my left side. Neighbor can >>

8841
05:06:05,700 --> 05:06:08,607
build up to 12 units. And every

8842
05:06:09,500 --> 05:06:11,120
one if every unit need two

8843
05:06:11,120 --> 05:06:14,130
cards. I do. My calculation is

8844
05:06:14,130 --> 05:06:18,190
a 50 >> six cards and you don't

8845
05:06:18,190 --> 05:06:20,419
require any outside parking.

8846
05:06:21,100 --> 05:06:24,140
and I tell you I'm down to my.

8847
05:06:24,140 --> 05:06:27,100
my street is a school. And you

8848
05:06:27,100 --> 05:06:29,180
know that school >> traffic. So

8849
05:06:29,180 --> 05:06:31,900
you tell me why. Why? Sure I

8850
05:06:31,900 --> 05:06:34,100
do. And they can be close to

8851
05:06:34,100 --> 05:06:37,100
the property line and find

8852
05:06:37,500 --> 05:06:38,250
my approval. They don't need

8853
05:06:38,250 --> 05:06:40,500
hearing. Don't need the

8854
05:06:40,500 --> 05:06:42,405
neighbor input public input.

8855
05:06:43,900 --> 05:06:44,280
and once they approve it's a

8856
05:06:44,280 --> 05:06:46,280
permanent >> and reversible.

8857
05:06:47,800 --> 05:06:48,210
and also >> thank you that your

8858
05:06:48,210 --> 05:06:51,621
time. Go come on down. Lori

8859
05:06:54,230 --> 05:06:56,423
droste, good evening. Good

8860
05:07:00,250 --> 05:07:02,140
afternoon. My name is michael

8861
05:07:02,140 --> 05:07:05,100
bryant. You've all gotten many

8862
05:07:05,100 --> 05:07:07,240
emails from me since august and

8863
05:07:07,240 --> 05:07:09,230
I've only heard from two people

8864
05:07:09,230 --> 05:07:12,120
on this council. This is campus

8865
05:07:12,120 --> 05:07:14,130
office and I got a face on with

8866
05:07:14,130 --> 05:07:16,150
george casey. So I don't know

8867
05:07:16,150 --> 05:07:18,100
where the rest of you been but

8868
05:07:18,100 --> 05:07:21,700
I'm upset about that. I

8869
05:07:21,700 --> 05:07:23,170
strongly >> am against us. I've

8870
05:07:23,170 --> 05:07:26,180
lived in san jose for 68 years.

8871
05:07:26,180 --> 05:07:28,500
I got my first house when I was

8872
05:07:28,500 --> 05:07:30,160
22 years old. It took me 80

8873
05:07:30,160 --> 05:07:32,500
hours a week to pay that

8874
05:07:32,500 --> 05:07:34,500
mortgage. I got my second house

8875
05:07:34,500 --> 05:07:36,190
when I got close to 30 and I'm

8876
05:07:36,190 --> 05:07:38,220
living out in santa teresa now

8877
05:07:38,220 --> 05:07:40,180
in a nice neighborhood. And it

8878
05:07:40,180 --> 05:07:42,230
took me 80 hours a week to pay

8879
05:07:42,230 --> 05:07:44,400
that house to I was in

8880
05:07:44,400 --> 05:07:46,180
my mid-forties almost 50. So

8881
05:07:46,180 --> 05:07:48,150
now I'm retired. I'm living

8882
05:07:48,150 --> 05:07:50,270
there. I'm comfortable. And

8883
05:07:50,270 --> 05:07:52,260
this is not going to work for

8884
05:07:52,260 --> 05:07:54,150
me. So you guys need to rethink

8885
05:07:54,150 --> 05:07:56,400
this because I guarantee you

8886
05:07:56,400 --> 05:07:57,270
anybody that votes for this I

8887
05:07:57,270 --> 05:07:59,800
will do everything I can to get

8888
05:07:59,800 --> 05:08:00,150
you thrown out in the next

8889
05:08:00,150 --> 05:08:02,415
election. >> thank you. Next

8890
05:08:03,140 --> 05:08:05,414
speaker. >> good evening. And

8891
05:08:11,170 --> 05:08:13,417
paulson representing yimby law

8892
05:08:14,140 --> 05:08:16,110
in be lost sent you a letter >>

8893
05:08:16,110 --> 05:08:18,411
today supporting this up

8894
05:08:19,200 --> 05:08:21,150
zoning. I'll summarize >>

8895
05:08:21,150 --> 05:08:23,150
something like preventing

8896
05:08:23,170 --> 05:08:25,140
someone from building four

8897
05:08:25,140 --> 05:08:26,230
townhouses on their own

8898
05:08:26,230 --> 05:08:29,200
property is a huge property

8899
05:08:29,200 --> 05:08:31,420
right restriction. The supreme

8900
05:08:32,200 --> 05:08:34,120
court and the roberts court in

8901
05:08:34,120 --> 05:08:36,290
particular have shown a lot

8902
05:08:36,290 --> 05:08:38,290
of deference to property rights

8903
05:08:38,290 --> 05:08:41,240
saying that if a city restricts

8904
05:08:41,240 --> 05:08:44,800
property rights it has to be

8905
05:08:44,800 --> 05:08:47,800
the least restrictive way to

8906
05:08:47,240 --> 05:08:49,280
achieve their goal. Yimby >>

8907
05:08:49,280 --> 05:08:52,180
law believes that single family

8908
05:08:52,180 --> 05:08:55,180
zoning >> is >> not the least

8909
05:08:55,210 --> 05:08:58,180
restrictive way to achieve any

8910
05:08:58,180 --> 05:09:01,618
goal. And they are prepared to

8911
05:09:05,160 --> 05:09:06,160
go to court to enforce >> this

8912
05:09:06,160 --> 05:09:08,416
work. You should support >>

8913
05:09:09,000 --> 05:09:10,150
this proposal because it's

8914
05:09:10,150 --> 05:09:12,130
right and >> thank you that

8915
05:09:12,130 --> 05:09:15,260
your time. Milo trout come on

8916
05:09:15,260 --> 05:09:17,426
down. Terrace salon and

8917
05:09:18,160 --> 05:09:20,160
patricia macdonald. >> good

8918
05:09:22,140 --> 05:09:24,190
evening mayor and city council.

8919
05:09:24,190 --> 05:09:26,900
I suppose I'm one of those rare

8920
05:09:26,900 --> 05:09:27,250
examples of a single family

8921
05:09:27,250 --> 05:09:29,270
homeowner who likes living

8922
05:09:29,270 --> 05:09:32,150
between two multiplexes. I'm

8923
05:09:32,150 --> 05:09:33,240
here to speak in support of the

8924
05:09:33,240 --> 05:09:35,500
staff recommendation and the

8925
05:09:35,500 --> 05:09:36,200
tordillos in the committee

8926
05:09:36,200 --> 05:09:38,700
memo. We all feel the effects

8927
05:09:38,700 --> 05:09:39,270
of the housing crisis just this

8928
05:09:39,270 --> 05:09:41,000
year we saw the elementary

8929
05:09:41,000 --> 05:09:42,270
school down our block close.

8930
05:09:42,270 --> 05:09:44,800
we've seen more friends priced

8931
05:09:44,800 --> 05:09:45,190
out of our city and we've seen

8932
05:09:45,190 --> 05:09:46,230
our workers driving long

8933
05:09:46,230 --> 05:09:47,240
commutes because they can't

8934
05:09:47,240 --> 05:09:49,300
afford to live in a city that

8935
05:09:49,300 --> 05:09:51,100
they serve. This week

8936
05:09:51,100 --> 05:09:52,400
my sister's visiting from new

8937
05:09:52,400 --> 05:09:53,150
york to celebrate her first

8938
05:09:53,150 --> 05:09:55,260
pregnancy the first baby in the

8939
05:09:55,260 --> 05:09:58,900
family born in our generation.

8940
05:09:58,900 --> 05:09:59,210
I wish she could afford to move

8941
05:09:59,210 --> 05:10:01,160
here and raise my future nephew

8942
05:10:01,160 --> 05:10:03,300
closer to family instead

8943
05:10:03,300 --> 05:10:05,700
of thousands of miles away. >>

8944
05:10:05,700 --> 05:10:06,140
but like for the majority

8945
05:10:06,140 --> 05:10:07,210
of our residents already living

8946
05:10:07,210 --> 05:10:09,180
here, that dream is too far out

8947
05:10:09,180 --> 05:10:11,100
of reach. Proposals like this

8948
05:10:11,100 --> 05:10:12,150
are about more than numbers

8949
05:10:12,150 --> 05:10:14,000
of dwelling units per acre.

8950
05:10:14,000 --> 05:10:15,200
there are concrete steps you

8951
05:10:15,200 --> 05:10:16,170
can take right now to reverse

8952
05:10:16,170 --> 05:10:18,130
years of an action that has led

8953
05:10:18,130 --> 05:10:20,130
to this housing crisis. Today

8954
05:10:20,130 --> 05:10:21,800
we've heard from a lot

8955
05:10:21,800 --> 05:10:22,140
of people who have lived in

8956
05:10:22,140 --> 05:10:24,170
san jose for. >> thank you that

8957
05:10:24,170 --> 05:10:26,417
your time. Next speaker. >>

8958
05:10:30,200 --> 05:10:32,800
hello, I'm laurie drost,

8959
05:10:32,800 --> 05:10:34,300
housing policy director at spur

8960
05:10:34,300 --> 05:10:35,170
and a former berkeley city

8961
05:10:35,170 --> 05:10:37,100
council member where I authored

8962
05:10:37,100 --> 05:10:38,100
missing little housing and

8963
05:10:38,100 --> 05:10:40,290
parking reforms. We can't solve

8964
05:10:40,290 --> 05:10:42,230
a housing shortage by making

8965
05:10:42,230 --> 05:10:45,200
housing harder to build. Please

8966
05:10:45,200 --> 05:10:46,260
maintain at least 32 dwelling

8967
05:10:46,260 --> 05:10:48,230
units per acre. That is already

8968
05:10:48,230 --> 05:10:50,423
really modest allowing duplexes

8969
05:10:51,300 --> 05:10:52,900
triplexes and smaller

8970
05:10:52,900 --> 05:10:54,300
multifamily homes. When a

8971
05:10:54,300 --> 05:10:56,403
detached home costs 1.7 million

8972
05:10:57,160 --> 05:10:59,400
the american dream

8973
05:10:59,400 --> 05:11:00,110
of homeownership is slipping

8974
05:11:00,110 --> 05:11:02,300
out of reach. Messy middle

8975
05:11:02,300 --> 05:11:03,270
housing creates another path

8976
05:11:03,270 --> 05:11:05,260
and opens more neighborhoods to

8977
05:11:05,260 --> 05:11:07,220
more families. Also, please

8978
05:11:07,220 --> 05:11:08,170
don't bring parking

8979
05:11:08,170 --> 05:11:10,150
requirements back artificial

8980
05:11:10,150 --> 05:11:12,180
mandates consume land, increase

8981
05:11:12,180 --> 05:11:14,110
cost and make small projects

8982
05:11:14,110 --> 05:11:16,700
infeasible. These homes may

8983
05:11:16,700 --> 05:11:18,140
stand for 100 years. We can't

8984
05:11:18,140 --> 05:11:20,110
predict how people will travel

8985
05:11:20,110 --> 05:11:22,110
in 2126. Please maintain 32

8986
05:11:23,180 --> 05:11:25,900
units per acre, reject parking

8987
05:11:25,900 --> 05:11:26,260
minimums and keep the american

8988
05:11:26,260 --> 05:11:28,426
dream within reach. >> thank

8989
05:11:29,270 --> 05:11:32,270
you. Next speaker current home

8990
05:11:33,700 --> 05:11:35,200
yo come on down and linda fall.

8991
05:11:35,200 --> 05:11:39,900
>> I'm terri >> swain. I'm a

8992
05:11:39,900 --> 05:11:41,130
local realtor here in san jose.

8993
05:11:41,130 --> 05:11:44,160
I'm california did not mandate

8994
05:11:44,160 --> 05:11:46,190
>> 32 dwelling units per acre.

8995
05:11:46,190 --> 05:11:48,150
that was with san jose's that

8996
05:11:48,150 --> 05:11:50,150
was san jose's choice the

8997
05:11:50,150 --> 05:11:53,100
planners. Then use the number

8998
05:11:53,100 --> 05:11:54,200
>> to create the figures for

8999
05:11:54,200 --> 05:11:56,100
the missing middle chart. The

9000
05:11:56,100 --> 05:11:58,120
planners showed no data. Why

9001
05:11:58,120 --> 05:12:01,120
2622 or 18 wouldn't have worked

9002
05:12:01,160 --> 05:12:03,416
instead of 32. Before moving

9003
05:12:04,100 --> 05:12:07,100
forward please ask planning may

9004
05:12:07,100 --> 05:12:09,410
model several lower density

9005
05:12:10,400 --> 05:12:11,240
alternate is including the

9006
05:12:11,240 --> 05:12:13,900
lowest additional capacity

9007
05:12:13,900 --> 05:12:16,600
required by hpd. After after

9008
05:12:16,600 --> 05:12:18,700
taking into >> account capacity

9009
05:12:18,700 --> 05:12:20,300
that will already be provided

9010
05:12:20,300 --> 05:12:21,290
through sb nine and other state

9011
05:12:21,290 --> 05:12:24,140
pels planning has paso level

9012
05:12:24,140 --> 05:12:27,614
data use roi is helpful and

9013
05:12:28,200 --> 05:12:31,200
make policy decisions but not

9014
05:12:32,400 --> 05:12:34,600
to make policy decisions but to

9015
05:12:34,600 --> 05:12:35,190
quickly model different

9016
05:12:35,190 --> 05:12:37,190
scenarios and incorporate

9017
05:12:37,270 --> 05:12:40,700
public feedback. Thank you that

9018
05:12:40,700 --> 05:12:43,700
your >> time next speaker may

9019
05:12:43,110 --> 05:12:44,230
or may hand council members I'm

9020
05:12:44,230 --> 05:12:46,200
>> a san jose resident and a

9021
05:12:46,200 --> 05:12:48,250
member. Hi. Wait how did that

9022
05:12:48,250 --> 05:12:50,425
>> happen? Go ahead. >> hi.

9023
05:12:51,160 --> 05:12:53,270
I've lived in my single family

9024
05:12:53,270 --> 05:12:55,500
resident neighborhood for

9025
05:12:55,500 --> 05:12:57,140
almost 40 years and I walk the

9026
05:12:57,140 --> 05:12:59,414
neighborhood every morning and

9027
05:13:00,400 --> 05:13:01,210
I see the changes that are

9028
05:13:01,210 --> 05:13:04,400
occurring and I'm vehemently

9029
05:13:04,400 --> 05:13:07,604
against what's happening. I see

9030
05:13:08,200 --> 05:13:09,240
these monstrous houses and

9031
05:13:09,240 --> 05:13:11,424
beautiful single family homes

9032
05:13:12,100 --> 05:13:14,120
that are one stories being torn

9033
05:13:14,120 --> 05:13:17,612
down and they are like monster

9034
05:13:18,500 --> 05:13:19,220
houses. There seems to be no

9035
05:13:19,220 --> 05:13:22,120
moratorium on the heights and

9036
05:13:22,120 --> 05:13:25,120
they over power everything they

9037
05:13:27,000 --> 05:13:28,200
there's no sunlight. I mean and

9038
05:13:28,200 --> 05:13:30,200
it's it's something that just

9039
05:13:30,200 --> 05:13:33,000
really needs to be looked at. I

9040
05:13:33,000 --> 05:13:34,220
implore you to look at other

9041
05:13:34,220 --> 05:13:37,900
cities and the studies that

9042
05:13:37,900 --> 05:13:40,900
they've done before venturing

9043
05:13:41,100 --> 05:13:44,100
into something like this and

9044
05:13:44,170 --> 05:13:46,210
taking a closer look on the

9045
05:13:46,210 --> 05:13:49,210
impacts of building this type

9046
05:13:50,900 --> 05:13:53,900
of society. The streets look.

9047
05:13:53,110 --> 05:13:55,500
thank you that your time? We

9048
05:13:55,500 --> 05:13:56,170
had a glitch with zuma

9049
05:13:56,170 --> 05:13:57,220
at unmuted somebody I don't

9050
05:13:57,220 --> 05:13:58,190
know how it did that but I'm

9051
05:13:58,190 --> 05:13:59,180
going to go ahead and go over

9052
05:13:59,180 --> 05:14:01,210
to her because she had started

9053
05:14:01,210 --> 05:14:02,180
speaking and then we'll come

9054
05:14:02,180 --> 05:14:05,180
back to you, sir. Sheila,

9055
05:14:06,120 --> 05:14:09,612
go ahead. It >> looks like she

9056
05:14:13,400 --> 05:14:14,130
may have went away so I'm going

9057
05:14:14,130 --> 05:14:15,400
to go ahead and move.

9058
05:14:15,400 --> 05:14:16,400
permission to speak? She can

9059
05:14:16,400 --> 05:14:17,230
raise her hand again but I

9060
05:14:17,230 --> 05:14:18,260
don't know what happened there.

9061
05:14:18,260 --> 05:14:19,190
just wanted to make sure

9062
05:14:19,190 --> 05:14:20,270
everything was fair. Go ahead,

9063
05:14:20,270 --> 05:14:22,400
sir. Thank you for waiting.

9064
05:14:22,400 --> 05:14:25,130
sure. >> hi. I live in an

9065
05:14:25,130 --> 05:14:26,290
apartment building. It's right

9066
05:14:26,290 --> 05:14:28,120
next to a single family home.

9067
05:14:28,120 --> 05:14:30,200
we can see into their yard.

9068
05:14:30,200 --> 05:14:31,210
does this make me and my family

9069
05:14:31,210 --> 05:14:33,210
neighborhood destroyers? No.

9070
05:14:33,270 --> 05:14:35,230
our kids play together. I would

9071
05:14:35,230 --> 05:14:37,500
move into an 8 or 10 story

9072
05:14:37,500 --> 05:14:38,110
apartment building. Does this

9073
05:14:38,110 --> 05:14:40,210
make me a bad person? No. It

9074
05:14:40,210 --> 05:14:42,300
makes me someone living in a

9075
05:14:42,300 --> 05:14:44,700
world class city that happens

9076
05:14:44,700 --> 05:14:45,260
to be caught up in the results

9077
05:14:45,260 --> 05:14:47,170
of decades of poor planning

9078
05:14:47,170 --> 05:14:49,600
decisions. And here we have an

9079
05:14:49,600 --> 05:14:50,290
opportunity for council to

9080
05:14:50,290 --> 05:14:52,230
follow staff's recommendations

9081
05:14:52,230 --> 05:14:54,230
to maintain a certified housing

9082
05:14:54,230 --> 05:14:56,200
element at two six north

9083
05:14:56,200 --> 05:14:58,500
winchester, for example, is a

9084
05:14:58,500 --> 05:14:59,100
prime location that will

9085
05:14:59,100 --> 05:15:01,410
actually deliver housing. But

9086
05:15:02,600 --> 05:15:03,600
the neighbors and council

9087
05:15:03,600 --> 05:15:05,170
member mulcahy are engaging in

9088
05:15:05,170 --> 05:15:07,110
a classic moving of goalposts

9089
05:15:07,110 --> 05:15:08,230
by asking for yet another

9090
05:15:08,230 --> 05:15:10,230
zoning reduction on exactly the

9091
05:15:10,230 --> 05:15:12,130
parcel that is most likely to

9092
05:15:12,130 --> 05:15:14,270
produce housing. You are the

9093
05:15:14,270 --> 05:15:16,180
decision makers. The time is

9094
05:15:16,180 --> 05:15:18,110
now to be bold and meet the

9095
05:15:18,110 --> 05:15:20,200
glaring housing need. Do not

9096
05:15:20,200 --> 05:15:22,700
cave to demands that amount to

9097
05:15:22,700 --> 05:15:23,270
nice to have that amount

9098
05:15:23,270 --> 05:15:25,427
tonight. Thank you. Next

9099
05:15:26,100 --> 05:15:29,900
speaker andrew. So come on

9100
05:15:29,900 --> 05:15:31,140
down, corinne. I already called

9101
05:15:31,140 --> 05:15:33,414
corinne. Trish mcdonald's.

9102
05:15:35,400 --> 05:15:37,404
janet spoke. Okay. Trish

9103
05:15:38,500 --> 05:15:40,405
interested? Okay. Go ahead.

9104
05:15:42,270 --> 05:15:45,130
okay. Good evening. I'm corinne

9105
05:15:45,130 --> 05:15:47,140
tamayo. I live in district six,

9106
05:15:47,140 --> 05:15:49,190
the willow glen neighborhood. I

9107
05:15:49,190 --> 05:15:50,250
have been in my willow glen

9108
05:15:50,250 --> 05:15:53,120
home for 37 years. Most of the

9109
05:15:53,120 --> 05:15:56,800
homes in my neighborhood are 90

9110
05:15:56,800 --> 05:15:59,000
years old at this point. I am

9111
05:15:59,000 --> 05:16:02,000
vehemently opposed to this plan

9112
05:16:02,300 --> 05:16:04,500
to dramatically increase zoning

9113
05:16:04,500 --> 05:16:05,400
in our single-family

9114
05:16:05,400 --> 05:16:07,170
neighborhood. I fear it will

9115
05:16:07,170 --> 05:16:09,160
fundamentally alter the willow

9116
05:16:09,160 --> 05:16:11,150
glen historic neighbor hood

9117
05:16:11,150 --> 05:16:13,415
character character. It will

9118
05:16:14,800 --> 05:16:16,000
tax our neighborhoods aging

9119
05:16:16,000 --> 05:16:18,500
infrastructure such as sewage

9120
05:16:18,500 --> 05:16:20,100
and plumbing capacity. The

9121
05:16:20,100 --> 05:16:21,180
localized electric grid and

9122
05:16:21,180 --> 05:16:23,180
water supply. It will result in

9123
05:16:23,180 --> 05:16:26,000
severe congestion due to lack

9124
05:16:26,000 --> 05:16:28,160
of parking. It will severely

9125
05:16:28,160 --> 05:16:29,200
impact and destroy the

9126
05:16:29,200 --> 05:16:31,140
neighborhoods. Mature a tree

9127
05:16:31,140 --> 05:16:33,700
canopy which is already only

9128
05:16:33,700 --> 05:16:36,300
at a dismal 13.5% for the city

9129
05:16:36,300 --> 05:16:38,600
of san jose. Residential lots

9130
05:16:38,600 --> 05:16:40,250
account for 70% of all san jose

9131
05:16:40,250 --> 05:16:43,150
city trees. I urge you to

9132
05:16:43,150 --> 05:16:45,415
reject this proposal. Thank

9133
05:16:47,000 --> 05:16:50,000
you. Next speaker. >> hi. Thank

9134
05:16:56,400 --> 05:16:58,500
you for listening to all of us.

9135
05:16:58,500 --> 05:17:00,400
I just want to say that please

9136
05:17:00,400 --> 05:17:03,400
reject this proposal. I believe

9137
05:17:03,170 --> 05:17:05,400
this is going to destroy our

9138
05:17:05,400 --> 05:17:06,270
neighborhoods and once it's

9139
05:17:06,270 --> 05:17:09,000
done 30 years from now you

9140
05:17:09,000 --> 05:17:10,240
can't go back and take all

9141
05:17:10,240 --> 05:17:12,160
these buildings down and just

9142
05:17:12,160 --> 05:17:13,250
go back to single family

9143
05:17:13,250 --> 05:17:15,220
housing. Please reject this

9144
05:17:15,220 --> 05:17:18,000
issue. I think it's a very

9145
05:17:18,000 --> 05:17:19,140
important one for the city

9146
05:17:19,140 --> 05:17:21,200
of san jose and I believe that

9147
05:17:21,200 --> 05:17:22,280
this will just I can't

9148
05:17:22,280 --> 05:17:24,230
emphasize enough. I think you

9149
05:17:24,230 --> 05:17:26,280
will destroy our neighborhoods

9150
05:17:26,280 --> 05:17:29,250
and I don't like to propose

9151
05:17:29,250 --> 05:17:32,500
threats but I mean I think our

9152
05:17:32,500 --> 05:17:34,800
next voting round I mean we're

9153
05:17:34,800 --> 05:17:37,200
going to decide do >> we want

9154
05:17:37,200 --> 05:17:40,160
people who want to bring these

9155
05:17:40,160 --> 05:17:42,100
small apartments into our

9156
05:17:42,100 --> 05:17:44,150
neighborhoods? I'm sorry. I

9157
05:17:44,150 --> 05:17:46,210
don't agree with this at all.

9158
05:17:46,210 --> 05:17:49,200
please say no. >> thank you.

9159
05:17:49,200 --> 05:17:51,290
next speaker I also have

9160
05:17:51,290 --> 05:17:54,180
ramachandran bala come on down.

9161
05:17:54,180 --> 05:17:56,418
susan noda and veena >>

9162
05:17:57,170 --> 05:18:00,617
ramachandran. Go ahead. Hi, I'm

9163
05:18:01,190 --> 05:18:03,230
ed russo and I'm sorry for

9164
05:18:03,230 --> 05:18:06,300
my voice but I just want to let

9165
05:18:06,300 --> 05:18:07,160
you know I have lived in

9166
05:18:07,160 --> 05:18:09,110
san jose my whole life. The

9167
05:18:09,110 --> 05:18:11,500
community that we have built

9168
05:18:11,500 --> 05:18:13,250
this city, the working together

9169
05:18:13,250 --> 05:18:15,425
with neighbors and >> partners

9170
05:18:18,400 --> 05:18:19,280
that we >> have in this city to

9171
05:18:19,280 --> 05:18:21,428
destroy that would be

9172
05:18:22,240 --> 05:18:24,424
unconscionable. We >> are a

9173
05:18:25,130 --> 05:18:28,613
city that is a community no

9174
05:18:29,240 --> 05:18:31,210
matter where you live. And to

9175
05:18:31,210 --> 05:18:34,290
destroy that would be so sad.

9176
05:18:34,290 --> 05:18:36,280
and once we destroy it, we

9177
05:18:36,280 --> 05:18:39,200
can't go back. There's plenty

9178
05:18:39,200 --> 05:18:41,200
of places in san jose where we

9179
05:18:41,200 --> 05:18:44,200
can build high density housing.

9180
05:18:44,500 --> 05:18:45,200
my husband worked >> for the

9181
05:18:45,200 --> 05:18:48,200
vta for 35 years. I understand

9182
05:18:48,180 --> 05:18:50,100
we need more housing there.

9183
05:18:50,100 --> 05:18:52,200
vta. Why are we doing that? Why

9184
05:18:52,200 --> 05:18:55,100
are we looking at places like

9185
05:18:55,100 --> 05:18:57,100
abandoned commercial buildings?

9186
05:18:58,200 --> 05:19:01,170
let's be prudent and save >>

9187
05:19:01,170 --> 05:19:04,200
our lives. Thank you. Next

9188
05:19:04,200 --> 05:19:07,200
speaker. Good evening. My name

9189
05:19:11,200 --> 05:19:13,130
is baller and increasing

9190
05:19:13,130 --> 05:19:16,700
density from 8 to 32 units per

9191
05:19:16,700 --> 05:19:17,270
acre with three storey

9192
05:19:17,270 --> 05:19:20,170
buildings will reverse or to

9193
05:19:20,170 --> 05:19:22,170
our neighborhoods. Furthermore,

9194
05:19:22,250 --> 05:19:24,230
the density will place an

9195
05:19:24,230 --> 05:19:26,170
unsustainable burden on

9196
05:19:26,170 --> 05:19:28,417
essential public services. Most

9197
05:19:29,220 --> 05:19:31,800
concerning is the proposed

9198
05:19:31,800 --> 05:19:33,800
ministerial approval process.

9199
05:19:34,190 --> 05:19:35,280
there's three practical

9200
05:19:35,280 --> 05:19:37,210
examples that I have seen. A

9201
05:19:37,210 --> 05:19:40,621
neighbor of mine runs a hostel

9202
05:19:41,000 --> 05:19:42,190
for traveling nurses at one

9203
05:19:42,190 --> 05:19:45,260
point in time on a 5000ft² lot.

9204
05:19:45,260 --> 05:19:47,426
I found 16 vehicles parked.

9205
05:19:48,120 --> 05:19:50,400
another of my neighbors runs a

9206
05:19:50,400 --> 05:19:52,210
rental car agency. A third and

9207
05:19:52,210 --> 05:19:54,110
a fourth. They actually run a

9208
05:19:54,110 --> 05:19:57,120
bar inside their garage. Now if

9209
05:19:57,120 --> 05:19:58,210
we adopt this kind of a

9210
05:19:58,210 --> 05:20:00,170
proposal, just imagine the

9211
05:20:00,170 --> 05:20:02,220
consequences that it'll happen.

9212
05:20:02,220 --> 05:20:04,170
people think commercial and

9213
05:20:04,170 --> 05:20:06,150
this is what is going to cause

9214
05:20:06,150 --> 05:20:08,270
damage to our community. I urge

9215
05:20:08,270 --> 05:20:11,000
the city council to vote no.

9216
05:20:11,000 --> 05:20:14,000
thank you. Next speaker alison

9217
05:20:14,170 --> 05:20:17,140
single loni come on down linda

9218
05:20:17,140 --> 05:20:19,414
geisha and ali >> victory. >>

9219
05:20:22,240 --> 05:20:24,900
good evening. I'm veena

9220
05:20:24,900 --> 05:20:26,250
ramachandran from various huh?

9221
05:20:26,250 --> 05:20:29,500
I strongly opposed the zoning

9222
05:20:29,500 --> 05:20:30,200
from single family home to

9223
05:20:30,200 --> 05:20:32,190
multi >> zoning. Several

9224
05:20:32,190 --> 05:20:34,700
residents of various high in

9225
05:20:34,700 --> 05:20:35,130
san jose >> have worked hard

9226
05:20:35,130 --> 05:20:37,900
all their lives to buy a single

9227
05:20:37,900 --> 05:20:39,200
family >> home. Several people

9228
05:20:39,200 --> 05:20:41,170
have moved from other crowded

9229
05:20:41,170 --> 05:20:43,260
cities nearby to come and live

9230
05:20:43,260 --> 05:20:45,200
in san jose because of the

9231
05:20:45,200 --> 05:20:47,140
present single family homes and

9232
05:20:47,140 --> 05:20:49,414
the large sites. Demolishing

9233
05:20:50,140 --> 05:20:52,230
single family homes destroys an

9234
05:20:52,230 --> 05:20:54,423
entire neighborhood. Also the

9235
05:20:55,100 --> 05:20:56,600
wave of unnecessary

9236
05:20:56,600 --> 05:20:58,120
requirements like garages and

9237
05:20:58,120 --> 05:21:00,190
entrances puts pressure on

9238
05:21:00,190 --> 05:21:03,300
neighbors. And there'll be

9239
05:21:03,300 --> 05:21:06,300
fights and disputes. There'll

9240
05:21:06,500 --> 05:21:08,300
be an increase in crime. And

9241
05:21:08,300 --> 05:21:10,900
most important, what no one is

9242
05:21:10,900 --> 05:21:11,220
mentioning is that land sharks

9243
05:21:11,220 --> 05:21:13,180
will move in. If I have two

9244
05:21:13,180 --> 05:21:15,140
multi-story buildings on either

9245
05:21:15,140 --> 05:21:17,270
side of me I'm a very easy prey

9246
05:21:17,270 --> 05:21:19,230
and I'll be forced out. And >>

9247
05:21:19,230 --> 05:21:21,900
this is not what I bought a

9248
05:21:21,900 --> 05:21:23,400
house in san jose for. So

9249
05:21:23,400 --> 05:21:26,400
please oppose this. Thank you.

9250
05:21:27,200 --> 05:21:29,800
next speaker kris justin. Come

9251
05:21:29,800 --> 05:21:31,190
on down. Bart wilner and

9252
05:21:31,190 --> 05:21:33,419
benjamin white. Good evening,

9253
05:21:34,800 --> 05:21:35,170
alison single lani, director

9254
05:21:35,170 --> 05:21:36,290
of policy with s.v. At home and

9255
05:21:36,290 --> 05:21:39,900
a longtime d5 resident. We

9256
05:21:39,900 --> 05:21:40,300
support the planning

9257
05:21:40,300 --> 05:21:41,140
commission's recommendation to

9258
05:21:41,140 --> 05:21:42,140
increase residential

9259
05:21:42,140 --> 05:21:44,300
neighborhood densities to 32

9260
05:21:44,300 --> 05:21:46,000
units per acre. To support the

9261
05:21:46,000 --> 05:21:47,800
development of middle income

9262
05:21:47,800 --> 05:21:49,600
housing, this can help create

9263
05:21:49,600 --> 05:21:50,220
much needed more affordable

9264
05:21:50,220 --> 05:21:53,800
homes in san jose. Make street

9265
05:21:53,800 --> 05:21:54,230
smart strategic use of our

9266
05:21:54,230 --> 05:21:56,000
existing infrastructure and

9267
05:21:56,000 --> 05:21:57,190
reduce greenhouse gas emissions

9268
05:21:57,190 --> 05:21:59,200
by letting people live closer

9269
05:21:59,200 --> 05:22:00,200
to where they work. We

9270
05:22:00,200 --> 05:22:02,000
encourage council to take this

9271
05:22:02,000 --> 05:22:03,230
necessary step in compliance

9272
05:22:03,230 --> 05:22:05,300
with the city's adopted housing

9273
05:22:05,300 --> 05:22:06,170
element from the teeth,

9274
05:22:06,170 --> 05:22:07,290
tordillos and committee memo we

9275
05:22:07,290 --> 05:22:09,800
support increased height limits

9276
05:22:09,800 --> 05:22:10,120
for middle housing surrounding

9277
05:22:10,120 --> 05:22:12,120
transit areas. From the mayor's

9278
05:22:12,120 --> 05:22:13,200
brown act memo we support the

9279
05:22:13,200 --> 05:22:14,240
recommendations related to

9280
05:22:14,240 --> 05:22:17,500
pickup lands from the candela

9281
05:22:17,500 --> 05:22:18,250
ortiz mulcahey memo. We support

9282
05:22:18,250 --> 05:22:20,110
a streamlined process and lower

9283
05:22:20,110 --> 05:22:21,250
fee structure for special use

9284
05:22:21,250 --> 05:22:23,800
permits for communities serving

9285
05:22:23,800 --> 05:22:26,800
users on pickup land. We oppose

9286
05:22:26,800 --> 05:22:27,250
adding new parking requirements

9287
05:22:27,250 --> 05:22:29,900
to development or exempting

9288
05:22:29,900 --> 05:22:30,160
parts of the city from middle

9289
05:22:30,160 --> 05:22:32,100
income development. You can

9290
05:22:32,100 --> 05:22:33,120
live >> in a vibrant city

9291
05:22:33,120 --> 05:22:36,612
that's growing or >> thank you

9292
05:22:38,140 --> 05:22:40,400
>> that your time next speaker.

9293
05:22:40,400 --> 05:22:42,400
>> linda gautier district

9294
05:22:44,120 --> 05:22:46,170
district nine for 46 years

9295
05:22:46,170 --> 05:22:48,260
esteemed mayor council members

9296
05:22:48,260 --> 05:22:50,300
as an elected official I'm

9297
05:22:50,300 --> 05:22:51,140
accustomed to dense official

9298
05:22:51,140 --> 05:22:53,000
language but please create

9299
05:22:53,000 --> 05:22:54,600
executive summaries for these

9300
05:22:54,600 --> 05:22:55,190
proposals that are bullet

9301
05:22:55,190 --> 05:22:56,270
pointed and in plain english

9302
05:22:56,270 --> 05:22:58,210
for the layperson homeowner who

9303
05:22:58,210 --> 05:23:00,200
wants to know what 100 words or

9304
05:23:00,200 --> 05:23:01,500
less what it means for him or

9305
05:23:01,500 --> 05:23:03,210
her? Personally I'd like to say

9306
05:23:03,210 --> 05:23:05,110
that I'm tired of the pit

9307
05:23:05,110 --> 05:23:07,900
of the popular view that

9308
05:23:07,900 --> 05:23:08,180
my neighbors and I are selfish

9309
05:23:08,180 --> 05:23:10,418
privileged snobs. My cambrian

9310
05:23:11,130 --> 05:23:13,140
home I bought out could only

9311
05:23:13,140 --> 05:23:14,280
squeak into my cambrian home in

9312
05:23:14,280 --> 05:23:16,210
1980 because it had a 60 cubic

9313
05:23:16,210 --> 05:23:17,270
foot hole for a planned

9314
05:23:17,270 --> 05:23:19,180
swimming pool in the backyard.

9315
05:23:19,180 --> 05:23:20,170
I couldn't afford to have it

9316
05:23:20,170 --> 05:23:21,290
filled so for two years I

9317
05:23:21,290 --> 05:23:23,800
got free pool dirt dumped in

9318
05:23:23,800 --> 05:23:24,230
front of the house and used a

9319
05:23:24,230 --> 05:23:25,290
wheelbarrow to get it in the

9320
05:23:25,290 --> 05:23:28,200
hole. My salary at that time

9321
05:23:28,200 --> 05:23:29,150
was under 12 a year and I

9322
05:23:29,150 --> 05:23:30,260
worked multiple jobs for a long

9323
05:23:30,260 --> 05:23:32,290
time. I refinanced to send a

9324
05:23:32,290 --> 05:23:34,600
son to college and again to

9325
05:23:34,600 --> 05:23:35,150
help his family buy a house

9326
05:23:35,150 --> 05:23:37,600
of their own. I live on a tight

9327
05:23:37,600 --> 05:23:38,160
budget in the house so many

9328
05:23:38,160 --> 05:23:41,500
seem to resent me having I made

9329
05:23:41,500 --> 05:23:42,160
this investment under a set

9330
05:23:42,160 --> 05:23:43,170
of rules that I had every

9331
05:23:43,170 --> 05:23:46,600
reason to expect would not.

9332
05:23:46,600 --> 05:23:48,240
thank you that your time? Next

9333
05:23:48,240 --> 05:23:51,110
speaker. Ali superman come on

9334
05:23:51,110 --> 05:23:54,611
down and down. Oh, hello. Ali

9335
05:23:56,140 --> 05:23:59,120
victory in district seven and I

9336
05:23:59,120 --> 05:24:01,300
discovered I'm in the missing

9337
05:24:01,300 --> 05:24:04,300
middle for 45 years my husband

9338
05:24:04,160 --> 05:24:07,900
and I raised our family in high

9339
05:24:07,900 --> 05:24:08,230
density home. We have a

9340
05:24:08,230 --> 05:24:11,100
townhome across the street are

9341
05:24:11,100 --> 05:24:14,601
duplexes a half mile away >> or

9342
05:24:15,800 --> 05:24:17,200
apartment complexes and right

9343
05:24:17,200 --> 05:24:19,280
next door single family homes.

9344
05:24:19,280 --> 05:24:22,170
it's a neighborhood that works.

9345
05:24:22,170 --> 05:24:25,617
it does have issues. Parking is

9346
05:24:26,000 --> 05:24:28,900
one for 45 years we've had

9347
05:24:28,900 --> 05:24:31,800
issues with parking. So this

9348
05:24:31,800 --> 05:24:35,000
plan I support but I am really

9349
05:24:35,000 --> 05:24:38,000
glad to see the memorandums

9350
05:24:38,000 --> 05:24:40,100
that are looking to direct the

9351
05:24:40,100 --> 05:24:43,100
staff in a reasonable way.

9352
05:24:43,300 --> 05:24:46,300
thank you. Thank you. Next

9353
05:24:46,210 --> 05:24:49,621
speaker hi my name is chris

9354
05:24:50,200 --> 05:24:52,700
justine my wife and I have a

9355
05:24:52,700 --> 05:24:54,230
house in willow glen. We all >>

9356
05:24:54,230 --> 05:24:55,230
want housing to be more

9357
05:24:55,230 --> 05:24:57,400
available and more affordable

9358
05:24:57,400 --> 05:24:58,120
but more density, more

9359
05:24:58,120 --> 05:24:59,250
affordable housing are not the

9360
05:24:59,250 --> 05:25:01,220
same thing. Increasing

9361
05:25:01,220 --> 05:25:02,290
neighborhood density is only

9362
05:25:02,290 --> 05:25:05,200
one possible tool. Tax policy

9363
05:25:05,200 --> 05:25:07,000
incentives >> regulatory

9364
05:25:07,000 --> 05:25:08,290
reform, development costs and

9365
05:25:08,290 --> 05:25:10,700
other approaches can also

9366
05:25:10,700 --> 05:25:11,220
affect housing availability >>

9367
05:25:11,220 --> 05:25:13,210
and affordability. Yet we >>

9368
05:25:13,210 --> 05:25:14,290
are considering changes that

9369
05:25:14,290 --> 05:25:16,500
could increase residential

9370
05:25:16,500 --> 05:25:18,600
neighborhood density from eight

9371
05:25:18,600 --> 05:25:20,190
to as much as 32 units an acre

9372
05:25:20,190 --> 05:25:22,900
allow three storey development

9373
05:25:22,900 --> 05:25:24,250
and use ministerial approvals.

9374
05:25:24,250 --> 05:25:26,120
your own memoranda show that

9375
05:25:26,120 --> 05:25:27,180
the answers aren't settled >>

9376
05:25:27,180 --> 05:25:29,270
here. That's why I support

9377
05:25:29,270 --> 05:25:30,230
councilmember jones request for

9378
05:25:30,230 --> 05:25:32,800
a four week deferral and

9379
05:25:32,800 --> 05:25:34,120
dedicated >> public meeting for

9380
05:25:34,120 --> 05:25:36,000
weeks as a small price to pay

9381
05:25:36,000 --> 05:25:37,200
for better public understanding

9382
05:25:37,200 --> 05:25:39,000
of a policy that could

9383
05:25:39,000 --> 05:25:40,230
permanently affect san jose's

9384
05:25:40,230 --> 05:25:42,150
established neighborhoods.

9385
05:25:42,150 --> 05:25:44,140
don't make the policy outrun

9386
05:25:44,140 --> 05:25:46,130
the evidence. Give the public

9387
05:25:46,130 --> 05:25:47,280
the four weeks to study the

9388
05:25:47,280 --> 05:25:49,240
alternatives. Then we can make

9389
05:25:49,240 --> 05:25:52,240
an informed decision. >> I bart

9390
05:25:57,270 --> 05:25:59,200
wilner district six for 48

9391
05:25:59,200 --> 05:26:02,200
years state bill 79 is a

9392
05:26:07,000 --> 05:26:08,270
mandate. It's the law. We have

9393
05:26:08,270 --> 05:26:10,100
to follow it. What you're all

9394
05:26:10,100 --> 05:26:13,140
trying to do now is strictly a

9395
05:26:13,140 --> 05:26:15,600
discretionary decision. It has

9396
05:26:15,600 --> 05:26:17,100
nothing to do with the law. It

9397
05:26:17,100 --> 05:26:18,800
is not a mandate. You only

9398
05:26:18,800 --> 05:26:19,210
mandate is to the voters that

9399
05:26:19,210 --> 05:26:22,200
put you in office. Right now we

9400
05:26:22,200 --> 05:26:24,402
shouldn't be looking

9401
05:26:25,150 --> 05:26:27,400
at increasing what the state

9402
05:26:27,400 --> 05:26:28,200
of california is asking for. We

9403
05:26:28,200 --> 05:26:30,000
should be looking at how we can

9404
05:26:30,000 --> 05:26:31,400
fulfill what the state

9405
05:26:31,400 --> 05:26:32,270
of california is asking for.

9406
05:26:32,270 --> 05:26:35,000
follow the law. Do it for a few

9407
05:26:35,000 --> 05:26:37,240
years. Reevaluate see what how

9408
05:26:37,240 --> 05:26:39,100
it works out and then may

9409
05:26:39,100 --> 05:26:41,400
changes as necessary. We're

9410
05:26:41,400 --> 05:26:42,170
putting a horse in front of the

9411
05:26:42,170 --> 05:26:44,120
cart. It's ridiculous right

9412
05:26:44,120 --> 05:26:47,000
now. Your your emphasis should

9413
05:26:47,000 --> 05:26:48,130
be seeing >> how google is

9414
05:26:48,130 --> 05:26:51,130
going to build the 5900 units

9415
05:26:51,210 --> 05:26:53,250
25% of them affordable housing

9416
05:26:53,250 --> 05:26:55,150
that they promised us and it's

9417
05:26:55,150 --> 05:26:56,170
now going to be probably in the

9418
05:26:56,170 --> 05:26:58,130
mid 2030s before they even

9419
05:26:58,130 --> 05:27:00,100
break ground. Come on, let's do

9420
05:27:00,100 --> 05:27:01,120
the job. Thank you. That your

9421
05:27:01,120 --> 05:27:03,270
time? Thank you. I'm bill

9422
05:27:03,270 --> 05:27:05,150
moline. Come on down steve

9423
05:27:05,150 --> 05:27:07,210
ling, robert wood and mary

9424
05:27:07,210 --> 05:27:10,210
pizzo. Hello. My name is

9425
05:27:13,400 --> 05:27:16,400
benjamin white. I live in the

9426
05:27:16,400 --> 05:27:17,170
winchester corridor

9427
05:27:17,170 --> 05:27:19,417
neighborhood. >> I think that

9428
05:27:20,260 --> 05:27:22,426
the fourfold increase in

9429
05:27:23,200 --> 05:27:25,210
residential zoning density that

9430
05:27:25,210 --> 05:27:28,210
is proposed is extreme for that

9431
05:27:28,210 --> 05:27:30,421
neighborhood. I also >> think

9432
05:27:31,280 --> 05:27:34,280
that rezoning property ease in

9433
05:27:36,160 --> 05:27:38,230
this and any parcel in this

9434
05:27:38,230 --> 05:27:40,230
residential neighborhood to

9435
05:27:41,300 --> 05:27:43,140
urban residential is also

9436
05:27:43,140 --> 05:27:45,414
inappropriate for a residential

9437
05:27:46,130 --> 05:27:49,130
neighborhood like this. And I

9438
05:27:49,260 --> 05:27:52,120
also want to say that I do

9439
05:27:52,120 --> 05:27:54,412
support the memo that

9440
05:27:55,210 --> 05:27:56,160
councilmember mulcahy

9441
05:27:56,160 --> 05:27:59,180
coauthored. I think that is a

9442
05:27:59,180 --> 05:28:02,800
reasonable proposal, a step in

9443
05:28:02,800 --> 05:28:04,200
the right direction. Thank you.

9444
05:28:04,200 --> 05:28:06,402
>> thank you. Next speaker.

9445
05:28:11,220 --> 05:28:15,150
thank you. I'm bill wolf and I

9446
05:28:15,150 --> 05:28:17,260
think this is a great proposal.

9447
05:28:17,260 --> 05:28:20,140
for any city with a subway

9448
05:28:20,140 --> 05:28:23,400
system because with the subway

9449
05:28:23,400 --> 05:28:24,230
system people can just ride to

9450
05:28:24,230 --> 05:28:28,100
work and they're fine. But if

9451
05:28:28,100 --> 05:28:30,140
you don't have a subway system,

9452
05:28:30,140 --> 05:28:32,180
people might need cars and they

9453
05:28:32,180 --> 05:28:34,140
might need to park their car

9454
05:28:34,140 --> 05:28:37,140
both at work and at home. So

9455
05:28:37,140 --> 05:28:40,110
please vote against this idea

9456
05:28:40,110 --> 05:28:42,600
and as an incentive I'll give

9457
05:28:42,600 --> 05:28:45,250
up the rest of my time. Thank

9458
05:28:45,250 --> 05:28:48,250
you. Next speaker I ali

9459
05:28:53,270 --> 05:28:54,270
superman on behalf of the

9460
05:28:54,270 --> 05:28:56,110
housing action coalition and as

9461
05:28:56,110 --> 05:28:58,300
a downtown resident I urge you

9462
05:28:58,300 --> 05:28:59,170
to accept staff's winchester

9463
05:28:59,170 --> 05:29:01,400
boulevard compromise. Please

9464
05:29:01,400 --> 05:29:02,400
don't limit the corridor to

9465
05:29:02,400 --> 05:29:03,150
townhomes only and don't carve

9466
05:29:03,150 --> 05:29:05,140
out parcels 8 to 6 winchester

9467
05:29:05,140 --> 05:29:07,200
hersh special treatment because

9468
05:29:07,200 --> 05:29:08,300
every site shares the same

9469
05:29:08,300 --> 05:29:10,200
characteristics. On missing

9470
05:29:10,200 --> 05:29:11,190
middle housing please adopt

9471
05:29:11,190 --> 05:29:13,110
at least 40 dwelling units per

9472
05:29:13,110 --> 05:29:15,500
acre as task force members have

9473
05:29:15,500 --> 05:29:16,100
called for berkeley's program

9474
05:29:16,100 --> 05:29:18,200
goes further at 17 if berkeley

9475
05:29:18,200 --> 05:29:20,400
can do it, a much larger city

9476
05:29:20,400 --> 05:29:22,100
like san jose can too. Density

9477
05:29:22,100 --> 05:29:23,200
must be high enough to make

9478
05:29:23,200 --> 05:29:24,240
math work. I also support the

9479
05:29:24,240 --> 05:29:26,130
councilmembers tordillos and

9480
05:29:26,130 --> 05:29:28,210
may's memo. I encourage a

9481
05:29:28,210 --> 05:29:29,210
predictable ministerial

9482
05:29:29,210 --> 05:29:30,270
approval process with clear

9483
05:29:30,270 --> 05:29:31,260
objectives standards and

9484
05:29:31,260 --> 05:29:33,220
defined review timelines.

9485
05:29:33,220 --> 05:29:35,000
please maintain the city's

9486
05:29:35,000 --> 05:29:36,110
commitment to eliminate parking

9487
05:29:36,110 --> 05:29:38,400
minimums. We committed to

9488
05:29:38,400 --> 05:29:39,210
things in the housing element

9489
05:29:39,210 --> 05:29:40,160
and we don't need to

9490
05:29:40,160 --> 05:29:42,250
relitigate. We must implement a

9491
05:29:42,250 --> 05:29:44,000
program that maintains the

9492
05:29:44,000 --> 05:29:45,200
city's housing element

9493
05:29:45,200 --> 05:29:46,250
commitments falling short risk,

9494
05:29:46,250 --> 05:29:48,150
decertification and loss

9495
05:29:48,150 --> 05:29:49,220
of local land control. Thank >>

9496
05:29:49,220 --> 05:29:51,240
you. >> thank you. Next

9497
05:29:51,240 --> 05:29:54,240
speaker. >> hello, my name is

9498
05:29:56,210 --> 05:29:58,270
steve leng. I'm present of the

9499
05:29:58,270 --> 05:29:59,290
strawberry park neighborhood

9500
05:29:59,290 --> 05:30:01,429
association in district one.

9501
05:30:02,210 --> 05:30:05,200
I'm also former former chairman

9502
05:30:05,200 --> 05:30:06,600
of the district one leadership

9503
05:30:06,600 --> 05:30:08,400
group. Thanks for the

9504
05:30:08,400 --> 05:30:09,140
opportunity to speak. I'll be

9505
05:30:09,140 --> 05:30:11,260
brief in the if the motivation

9506
05:30:11,260 --> 05:30:13,180
for up zoning in the proposed

9507
05:30:13,180 --> 05:30:15,600
framework is to meet the state

9508
05:30:15,600 --> 05:30:17,406
mandate of 62,200 new housing

9509
05:30:18,150 --> 05:30:20,210
units by 2031 for the regional

9510
05:30:20,210 --> 05:30:22,220
housing needs allocation. I

9511
05:30:22,220 --> 05:30:24,240
believe there are less dramatic

9512
05:30:24,240 --> 05:30:27,600
ways to get this done.

9513
05:30:27,600 --> 05:30:29,200
specifically I'm referring to

9514
05:30:29,200 --> 05:30:31,300
the quadrupling of the single

9515
05:30:31,300 --> 05:30:33,200
family density limits from 8 to

9516
05:30:33,200 --> 05:30:36,110
32 units per acre across the

9517
05:30:36,110 --> 05:30:39,100
entire city. Please vote no on

9518
05:30:39,100 --> 05:30:40,230
this proposal. Hold your

9519
05:30:40,230 --> 05:30:42,423
planning staff and neighborhood

9520
05:30:43,100 --> 05:30:45,220
leaders like me accountable to

9521
05:30:45,220 --> 05:30:47,130
go come up with a better plan.

9522
05:30:47,130 --> 05:30:50,130
thank you. Thank you. Next

9523
05:30:50,140 --> 05:30:52,414
speaker >> after this speaker

9524
05:30:53,000 --> 05:30:55,800
I'm going to call five names

9525
05:30:55,800 --> 05:30:57,110
online. Just so you know, I

9526
05:30:57,110 --> 05:31:00,600
have about six cards left in

9527
05:31:00,600 --> 05:31:02,140
person and 20 >> hands online.

9528
05:31:02,140 --> 05:31:04,240
go ahead. >> good evening.

9529
05:31:04,240 --> 05:31:06,150
my name is mary peet. So I have

9530
05:31:06,150 --> 05:31:08,900
lived in san jose almost all

9531
05:31:08,900 --> 05:31:11,700
of my life and I would like not

9532
05:31:11,700 --> 05:31:13,150
only the council >> but also

9533
05:31:13,150 --> 05:31:15,900
the planners >> to look at the

9534
05:31:15,900 --> 05:31:17,110
items that were detailed by the

9535
05:31:17,110 --> 05:31:19,411
district six leadership group

9536
05:31:20,200 --> 05:31:22,200
because we believe in growth,

9537
05:31:22,200 --> 05:31:23,260
we understand we live in a city

9538
05:31:23,260 --> 05:31:25,240
that needs to grow but we also

9539
05:31:25,240 --> 05:31:27,110
believe that some of the path

9540
05:31:27,110 --> 05:31:29,150
decisions have proven to be

9541
05:31:29,150 --> 05:31:31,280
inaccurate and some of the new

9542
05:31:31,280 --> 05:31:32,270
guidelines that you're

9543
05:31:32,270 --> 05:31:35,260
proposing are way too generous

9544
05:31:35,260 --> 05:31:38,100
for develop buyers and really

9545
05:31:38,100 --> 05:31:40,260
don't address the neighbors who

9546
05:31:40,260 --> 05:31:42,230
come to these meetings to talk

9547
05:31:42,230 --> 05:31:44,220
with other neighbors who really

9548
05:31:44,220 --> 05:31:46,700
want you to respect the fact

9549
05:31:46,700 --> 05:31:47,230
that we also know our

9550
05:31:47,230 --> 05:31:49,110
neighborhood and what's worked

9551
05:31:49,110 --> 05:31:51,100
and what hasn't worked. Thank

9552
05:31:51,100 --> 05:31:54,260
you. >> alright I'm going to

9553
05:31:54,260 --> 05:31:56,120
go to sheila and then followed

9554
05:31:56,120 --> 05:31:58,210
by m.l. And tamisha. Jordan

9555
05:31:58,210 --> 05:32:01,621
moldau and tate. Okay. My name

9556
05:32:02,300 --> 05:32:03,900
is sheila. Okay. I'm an

9557
05:32:03,900 --> 05:32:05,260
associate broker with bmg. I

9558
05:32:05,260 --> 05:32:08,900
think two things are essential.

9559
05:32:08,900 --> 05:32:10,700
I don't agree with the proposal

9560
05:32:10,700 --> 05:32:11,100
because it doesn't meet the

9561
05:32:11,100 --> 05:32:12,290
needs of the city or the

9562
05:32:12,290 --> 05:32:14,429
community but more importantly

9563
05:32:15,900 --> 05:32:17,800
any developer who's making a

9564
05:32:17,800 --> 05:32:20,160
ton of money by giving you 1 or

9565
05:32:20,160 --> 05:32:23,160
2 housing that is subsidized as

9566
05:32:24,210 --> 05:32:28,200
opposed to full tilt money is a

9567
05:32:28,200 --> 05:32:30,100
violation of our rights as

9568
05:32:30,100 --> 05:32:32,200
citizens to give our hard

9569
05:32:32,200 --> 05:32:34,120
earned money and interest to

9570
05:32:34,120 --> 05:32:36,200
them. So I'm opposed to that.

9571
05:32:36,200 --> 05:32:38,600
I'm also opposed to if you're

9572
05:32:38,600 --> 05:32:40,600
going to build why don't you

9573
05:32:40,600 --> 05:32:42,600
just build underground

9574
05:32:42,140 --> 05:32:44,110
permanently just the way you

9575
05:32:44,110 --> 05:32:45,170
need to do to make sure

9576
05:32:45,170 --> 05:32:47,800
everybody in that building has

9577
05:32:47,800 --> 05:32:50,220
a place to go. Now that makes

9578
05:32:50,220 --> 05:32:52,140
no impact on the community

9579
05:32:52,140 --> 05:32:53,180
of the people you're going to

9580
05:32:53,180 --> 05:32:55,180
damage anyway. If you

9581
05:32:55,180 --> 05:32:57,190
go through with it. And third,

9582
05:32:57,190 --> 05:32:59,110
if you're going to get the

9583
05:32:59,110 --> 05:33:02,000
developers to give your money

9584
05:33:02,000 --> 05:33:05,800
to m.l. >> followed by an

9585
05:33:05,800 --> 05:33:08,800
tamisha I am very concerned

9586
05:33:09,700 --> 05:33:10,800
that data centers are not

9587
05:33:10,800 --> 05:33:12,400
included as a study topic and

9588
05:33:12,400 --> 05:33:13,150
this work plan for your four

9589
05:33:13,150 --> 05:33:14,260
year review of the general plan

9590
05:33:14,260 --> 05:33:17,000
for 2047 would need to be

9591
05:33:17,000 --> 05:33:18,600
studied as part of the general

9592
05:33:18,600 --> 05:33:19,230
plan. There are currently 34

9593
05:33:19,230 --> 05:33:20,280
approved and pending data

9594
05:33:20,280 --> 05:33:22,230
center projects in san jose. A

9595
05:33:22,230 --> 05:33:23,290
lot of them are district two

9596
05:33:23,290 --> 05:33:25,400
where there is no recycled

9597
05:33:25,400 --> 05:33:26,180
water. These data centers

9598
05:33:26,180 --> 05:33:27,230
directly steal freshwater

9599
05:33:27,230 --> 05:33:29,000
resources away from human

9600
05:33:29,000 --> 05:33:30,800
beings and wildlife in the

9601
05:33:30,800 --> 05:33:32,400
city. We need water not data to

9602
05:33:32,400 --> 05:33:33,220
survive. We already live in a

9603
05:33:33,220 --> 05:33:35,500
very drought prone area. The

9604
05:33:35,500 --> 05:33:36,150
u.n. Has declared that we are

9605
05:33:36,150 --> 05:33:38,800
now in an era of water being

9606
05:33:38,800 --> 05:33:40,400
added as of this year. So we

9607
05:33:40,400 --> 05:33:41,210
will surely see a drought again

9608
05:33:41,210 --> 05:33:43,120
in this area. Water consumption

9609
05:33:43,120 --> 05:33:45,130
needs to be human consumption

9610
05:33:45,130 --> 05:33:47,500
needs to be prioritized. Noise

9611
05:33:47,500 --> 05:33:48,220
pollution energy needs hazards

9612
05:33:48,220 --> 05:33:50,400
to human and wildlife health

9613
05:33:50,400 --> 05:33:51,270
are also very serious concerns

9614
05:33:51,270 --> 05:33:53,600
that I don't have time to speak

9615
05:33:53,600 --> 05:33:54,260
on. Data centers need to be

9616
05:33:54,260 --> 05:33:56,180
studied as part of this general

9617
05:33:56,180 --> 05:33:57,250
plan. Please reject this

9618
05:33:57,250 --> 05:33:59,250
proposal. The >> mischa

9619
05:34:01,120 --> 05:34:04,120
followed by jordan mayor >> may

9620
05:34:05,400 --> 05:34:06,900
hand council members and west

9621
05:34:06,900 --> 05:34:08,800
tennessee resident and a member

9622
05:34:08,800 --> 05:34:09,230
of I love san jose.org

9623
05:34:09,230 --> 05:34:11,300
coalition of over 3000

9624
05:34:11,300 --> 05:34:12,160
organized residents. My family

9625
05:34:12,160 --> 05:34:14,120
lives less than a mile from the

9626
05:34:14,120 --> 05:34:16,120
prologis proposed 99 megawatt

9627
05:34:17,000 --> 05:34:18,100
data center today. Residents

9628
05:34:18,100 --> 05:34:20,170
spoke against rezoning ibm

9629
05:34:20,170 --> 05:34:21,290
almaden for data centers. You

9630
05:34:21,290 --> 05:34:23,160
voted 9 to 2 to approve it

9631
05:34:23,160 --> 05:34:25,400
anyway. No cumulative impact

9632
05:34:25,400 --> 05:34:26,170
analysis, no standard city

9633
05:34:26,170 --> 05:34:28,180
staff confirm this is analysis

9634
05:34:28,180 --> 05:34:30,800
doesn't currently exist. We

9635
05:34:30,800 --> 05:34:32,000
already have equinox operating

9636
05:34:32,000 --> 05:34:33,220
nearby stack infrastructure's

9637
05:34:33,220 --> 05:34:36,600
100mw pending for a lot for a

9638
05:34:36,600 --> 05:34:39,600
allergist's with 396mw plant

9639
05:34:39,100 --> 05:34:40,190
yet there's no analysis

9640
05:34:40,190 --> 05:34:41,160
of whether our neighborhoods

9641
05:34:41,160 --> 05:34:43,260
can serve this combined load

9642
05:34:43,260 --> 05:34:44,270
of water consumption and

9643
05:34:44,270 --> 05:34:46,270
pollution. Residents near

9644
05:34:46,270 --> 05:34:48,170
betty's facility in mansfield,

9645
05:34:48,170 --> 05:34:49,270
georgia can no longer drink

9646
05:34:49,270 --> 05:34:51,900
their water. We won't let that

9647
05:34:51,900 --> 05:34:52,200
happen here. Your vote today

9648
05:34:52,200 --> 05:34:54,250
proved we need binding

9649
05:34:54,250 --> 05:34:56,425
standards before approvals, not

9650
05:34:57,000 --> 05:34:58,100
after I'm asking you to commit

9651
05:34:58,100 --> 05:34:59,230
now require conditional use

9652
05:34:59,230 --> 05:35:01,200
permit instead of special use

9653
05:35:01,200 --> 05:35:02,120
permits for data centers,

9654
05:35:02,120 --> 05:35:03,240
mandate cumulative impact

9655
05:35:03,240 --> 05:35:04,240
analysis and apply new

9656
05:35:04,240 --> 05:35:06,424
standards or draft >> jordan

9657
05:35:07,300 --> 05:35:10,240
followed by >> tate. Hi this is

9658
05:35:10,240 --> 05:35:12,100
jordan muldowney d through

9659
05:35:12,100 --> 05:35:13,220
resident thank you to council

9660
05:35:13,220 --> 05:35:15,900
members toward ios and comté

9661
05:35:15,900 --> 05:35:16,110
and the city staff for their

9662
05:35:16,110 --> 05:35:17,270
memos that demonstrate forward

9663
05:35:17,270 --> 05:35:19,120
thinking leadership on land

9664
05:35:19,120 --> 05:35:21,130
use. I live in a ten year old

9665
05:35:21,130 --> 05:35:22,900
apartment building in

9666
05:35:22,900 --> 05:35:24,800
japantown. My neighbors and I

9667
05:35:24,800 --> 05:35:25,230
contribute to the neighborhood,

9668
05:35:25,230 --> 05:35:27,300
participate in neighborhood

9669
05:35:27,300 --> 05:35:30,700
groups, walk or dogs pay taxes.

9670
05:35:30,700 --> 05:35:32,100
we're not bogeymen. We live

9671
05:35:32,100 --> 05:35:33,180
peacefully with our home owning

9672
05:35:33,180 --> 05:35:35,220
neighbors. Our apartment our

9673
05:35:35,220 --> 05:35:37,200
apartment was built with

9674
05:35:37,200 --> 05:35:39,000
parking minimums. The parking

9675
05:35:39,000 --> 05:35:41,210
is never close to full.

9676
05:35:41,210 --> 05:35:43,500
families have many different

9677
05:35:43,500 --> 05:35:44,190
shapes and sizes and many

9678
05:35:44,190 --> 05:35:46,170
different transportation needs.

9679
05:35:46,170 --> 05:35:47,250
setting parking minimums are

9680
05:35:47,250 --> 05:35:49,170
unlikely to be too low but

9681
05:35:49,170 --> 05:35:50,280
they're extremely likely to be

9682
05:35:50,280 --> 05:35:52,210
too high. The staff report

9683
05:35:52,210 --> 05:35:54,200
studied parking and determined

9684
05:35:54,200 --> 05:35:55,300
that developers are still

9685
05:35:55,300 --> 05:35:56,180
building it. We shouldn't be

9686
05:35:56,180 --> 05:35:58,120
making policy based on failed

9687
05:35:58,120 --> 05:36:00,120
pseudoscience. Please reject

9688
05:36:00,120 --> 05:36:01,270
parking minimums and the

9689
05:36:01,270 --> 05:36:03,190
negatives that they bring. I

9690
05:36:03,190 --> 05:36:04,210
also support communities

9691
05:36:04,210 --> 05:36:06,150
serving in residential areas

9692
05:36:06,150 --> 05:36:08,210
and pickup zones as as talked

9693
05:36:08,210 --> 05:36:11,140
about in huge council memos >>

9694
05:36:11,140 --> 05:36:13,210
came before a unmute taped I'm

9695
05:36:13,210 --> 05:36:16,200
going to call names of people

9696
05:36:16,200 --> 05:36:19,400
in the room. Lina or liana

9697
05:36:19,400 --> 05:36:21,404
olive lindy hayes, greg

9698
05:36:23,190 --> 05:36:26,190
carlson, jeff pedulla and bill

9699
05:36:27,200 --> 05:36:30,602
wolfe come on down >> and taped

9700
05:36:31,280 --> 05:36:34,628
over to you. >> hello, I'm

9701
05:36:38,140 --> 05:36:40,250
kate. I'm a homeowner in d10.

9702
05:36:40,250 --> 05:36:41,240
I've lived here for about six

9703
05:36:41,240 --> 05:36:42,220
years and I for one would

9704
05:36:42,220 --> 05:36:43,240
welcome new neighbors and

9705
05:36:43,240 --> 05:36:45,130
strongly support that missing

9706
05:36:45,130 --> 05:36:47,100
middle proposal. I think we

9707
05:36:47,100 --> 05:36:48,280
need at least three units

9708
05:36:48,280 --> 05:36:50,000
probably probably more. As

9709
05:36:50,000 --> 05:36:51,400
someone else pointed out to

9710
05:36:51,400 --> 05:36:52,600
me to meet our housing goals.

9711
05:36:52,600 --> 05:36:53,600
we don't need things like

9712
05:36:53,600 --> 05:36:54,900
parking minimums. We can leave

9713
05:36:54,900 --> 05:36:55,230
that up to individual sites to

9714
05:36:55,230 --> 05:36:56,280
determine and they just add

9715
05:36:56,280 --> 05:36:58,428
cost proposals. And please

9716
05:36:59,200 --> 05:37:02,100
think of all the young families

9717
05:37:02,100 --> 05:37:03,130
who aren't there tonight and

9718
05:37:03,130 --> 05:37:05,290
can't express their voices and

9719
05:37:05,290 --> 05:37:07,100
really need affordable housing

9720
05:37:07,100 --> 05:37:10,601
in san jose. Thank you >> mayor

9721
05:37:12,230 --> 05:37:14,230
mehan. Council members >>

9722
05:37:16,700 --> 05:37:17,180
my name is liana all of I'm a

9723
05:37:17,180 --> 05:37:18,240
resident and a member

9724
05:37:18,240 --> 05:37:20,290
of concern corry neighborhood.

9725
05:37:20,290 --> 05:37:22,300
I would like to thank the

9726
05:37:22,300 --> 05:37:24,300
council members conduct

9727
05:37:24,700 --> 05:37:27,700
countless and also ortiz and

9728
05:37:30,120 --> 05:37:32,412
especially our district six

9729
05:37:33,300 --> 05:37:34,210
councilmember malcolm mccarthy

9730
05:37:34,210 --> 05:37:36,200
for listening to our concerns

9731
05:37:36,200 --> 05:37:37,100
on the rezoning of the north

9732
05:37:37,100 --> 05:37:39,110
winchester corridor and ferris

9733
05:37:39,110 --> 05:37:41,260
forest avenue. The designations

9734
05:37:41,260 --> 05:37:43,120
of mulan on winchester with

9735
05:37:43,120 --> 05:37:46,110
forest to remain ryan and cc

9736
05:37:46,110 --> 05:37:47,180
will not only provide for

9737
05:37:47,180 --> 05:37:48,280
additional housing but will

9738
05:37:48,280 --> 05:37:50,190
also preserved small businesses

9739
05:37:50,190 --> 05:37:51,290
that generate greater tax

9740
05:37:51,290 --> 05:37:53,180
revenue and put less strain on

9741
05:37:53,180 --> 05:37:55,418
multiple services. Any other

9742
05:37:56,110 --> 05:37:57,240
zoning will have a negative

9743
05:37:57,240 --> 05:37:59,200
impact on the traffic safety,

9744
05:37:59,200 --> 05:38:01,200
parking and integrity of the

9745
05:38:01,200 --> 05:38:02,250
neighborhood and impact the

9746
05:38:02,250 --> 05:38:04,170
ability of these businesses to

9747
05:38:04,170 --> 05:38:06,280
survive. I would also urge you

9748
05:38:06,280 --> 05:38:08,210
to reject the missing middle

9749
05:38:08,210 --> 05:38:10,160
housing and continue to develop

9750
05:38:10,160 --> 05:38:13,200
land as designated in the 2040

9751
05:38:13,200 --> 05:38:14,290
>> general plan. >> thank you

9752
05:38:14,290 --> 05:38:16,110
that your time next speaker

9753
05:38:16,110 --> 05:38:18,400
christy. Right. Come on down,

9754
05:38:18,400 --> 05:38:20,404
sam kurtzman worksman and

9755
05:38:22,700 --> 05:38:24,407
sandra delavan. Go ahead. >>

9756
05:38:25,200 --> 05:38:26,290
I'm linda hayes from concern

9757
05:38:26,290 --> 05:38:29,100
corrie neighbors. There are two

9758
05:38:29,100 --> 05:38:30,220
issues where we disagree with

9759
05:38:30,220 --> 05:38:32,220
the planning department staff.

9760
05:38:32,220 --> 05:38:34,422
the winchester corridor and

9761
05:38:35,000 --> 05:38:36,200
identification of residential

9762
05:38:36,200 --> 05:38:38,500
neighborhoods for the

9763
05:38:38,500 --> 05:38:40,270
winchester corridor. We embrace

9764
05:38:40,270 --> 05:38:42,190
the recommendations of our

9765
05:38:42,190 --> 05:38:44,190
councilmember michael mulcahy

9766
05:38:45,500 --> 05:38:47,180
to preserve the profitable

9767
05:38:47,180 --> 05:38:50,180
small businesses along for us

9768
05:38:50,220 --> 05:38:53,100
and to rezone as a mixed use

9769
05:38:53,100 --> 05:38:55,200
neighborhood properties along

9770
05:38:55,200 --> 05:38:57,402
winchester to permit housing.

9771
05:38:58,120 --> 05:39:00,100
council member mulcahy's

9772
05:39:00,100 --> 05:39:02,260
solution is better for our

9773
05:39:02,260 --> 05:39:04,426
neighborhood and recognizes the

9774
05:39:05,100 --> 05:39:09,220
housing needs of the city. I am

9775
05:39:09,220 --> 05:39:11,422
thrilled for the densification

9776
05:39:13,300 --> 05:39:14,200
issue. We think it is

9777
05:39:14,200 --> 05:39:17,200
haphazard. Once it is done it

9778
05:39:17,200 --> 05:39:20,800
cannot be undone. If the

9779
05:39:20,800 --> 05:39:22,200
council has a compromise to

9780
05:39:22,200 --> 05:39:24,160
propose we would very much like

9781
05:39:24,160 --> 05:39:26,270
to hear it. Thank you. >> thank

9782
05:39:26,270 --> 05:39:29,627
you. Next speaker. My name is

9783
05:39:33,280 --> 05:39:35,600
greg carlson and I'm with

9784
05:39:35,600 --> 05:39:37,110
concern corey neighbors. And

9785
05:39:37,110 --> 05:39:38,270
this is an important moment not

9786
05:39:38,270 --> 05:39:40,150
just in the winchester corridor

9787
05:39:40,150 --> 05:39:43,120
in san jose but perhaps beyond.

9788
05:39:43,120 --> 05:39:45,150
these are your concerns. Once

9789
05:39:45,150 --> 05:39:47,900
sometime back you asked us to

9790
05:39:47,900 --> 05:39:49,400
give you our votes to allow you

9791
05:39:49,400 --> 05:39:50,800
to be sitting here today to

9792
05:39:50,800 --> 05:39:52,000
represent our neighborhoods and

9793
05:39:52,000 --> 05:39:53,300
to protect the safety and

9794
05:39:53,300 --> 05:39:54,200
integrity of our neighborhoods

9795
05:39:54,200 --> 05:39:57,100
and small businesses. Now is

9796
05:39:57,100 --> 05:39:58,260
the time that we come to you to

9797
05:39:58,260 --> 05:40:00,150
confirm that we the voters made

9798
05:40:00,150 --> 05:40:02,170
the right decision. We asked

9799
05:40:02,170 --> 05:40:03,260
you to protect the safety and

9800
05:40:03,260 --> 05:40:05,800
integrity of our neighborhoods.

9801
05:40:05,800 --> 05:40:06,270
we asked you to support our

9802
05:40:06,270 --> 05:40:08,130
councilmember michael mulcahy's

9803
05:40:08,130 --> 05:40:10,150
recommendation to not changing

9804
05:40:10,150 --> 05:40:13,300
the forest avenue zoning and no

9805
05:40:13,300 --> 05:40:14,270
more than mixed use residential

9806
05:40:14,270 --> 05:40:16,260
on the designated parcels along

9807
05:40:16,260 --> 05:40:18,100
the winchester corridor.

9808
05:40:18,100 --> 05:40:20,100
including 826 north winchester.

9809
05:40:21,290 --> 05:40:23,800
how much time do I have to

9810
05:40:23,800 --> 05:40:26,800
build a vibrant downtown and

9811
05:40:26,250 --> 05:40:28,100
put up two high rises around

9812
05:40:28,100 --> 05:40:30,410
downtown? Perfect. Thank you.

9813
05:40:31,150 --> 05:40:33,415
>> thank you. Next speaker.

9814
05:40:34,210 --> 05:40:37,621
marni, come on down. And ken >>

9815
05:40:38,100 --> 05:40:41,270
hillman. I'm jeff temple. I'm

9816
05:40:41,270 --> 05:40:42,230
approaching this from a

9817
05:40:42,230 --> 05:40:45,230
different angle. I submitted a

9818
05:40:47,300 --> 05:40:50,300
legal ethics complaint to two

9819
05:40:50,190 --> 05:40:52,419
projects in college park.

9820
05:40:54,600 --> 05:40:56,160
applicable laws and procedures

9821
05:40:56,160 --> 05:40:59,616
weren't followed. Then this is

9822
05:41:00,230 --> 05:41:02,423
the 2012 emery street land

9823
05:41:03,700 --> 05:41:05,407
deal. The pedestrian easement

9824
05:41:06,800 --> 05:41:09,300
exists as a cloud on the title

9825
05:41:09,300 --> 05:41:10,210
and the date of the recorded

9826
05:41:10,210 --> 05:41:13,621
deed I saw was december 17th,

9827
05:41:14,300 --> 05:41:17,300
2012 but the matter was heard

9828
05:41:17,400 --> 05:41:19,600
and passed by the council on

9829
05:41:19,600 --> 05:41:22,600
the 18th. Thank you. >> thank

9830
05:41:24,200 --> 05:41:26,220
you. Next speaker I >> urge you

9831
05:41:26,220 --> 05:41:28,210
to vote no. The problem with

9832
05:41:28,210 --> 05:41:31,800
this is the blanket approval to

9833
05:41:31,800 --> 05:41:33,140
build high density housing on

9834
05:41:33,140 --> 05:41:36,500
any residential lot. It doesn't

9835
05:41:36,500 --> 05:41:38,700
make sense. My name is kristi

9836
05:41:38,700 --> 05:41:39,230
wright and I moved to san jose

9837
05:41:39,230 --> 05:41:41,270
30 years ago because I found a

9838
05:41:41,270 --> 05:41:43,120
neighborhood that has

9839
05:41:43,120 --> 05:41:46,220
character. It feels safe. It's

9840
05:41:46,220 --> 05:41:48,190
quiet at night. It has ample

9841
05:41:48,190 --> 05:41:50,280
parking. There are front yards

9842
05:41:50,280 --> 05:41:52,120
and backyards for the kids to

9843
05:41:52,120 --> 05:41:55,200
play in. High density housing

9844
05:41:55,200 --> 05:41:56,100
built right in the middle of a

9845
05:41:56,100 --> 05:41:59,000
quiet block changes the fabric

9846
05:41:59,000 --> 05:42:00,300
of the street and that

9847
05:42:00,300 --> 05:42:02,200
neighborhood. I seriously doubt

9848
05:42:02,200 --> 05:42:04,200
that any of you council members

9849
05:42:04,200 --> 05:42:06,900
would like a high density unit

9850
05:42:06,900 --> 05:42:08,210
built right next to your house.

9851
05:42:08,210 --> 05:42:10,600
we need more housing to let's

9852
05:42:10,600 --> 05:42:11,110
put it along the transit

9853
05:42:11,110 --> 05:42:12,180
corridors like the award

9854
05:42:12,180 --> 05:42:14,418
winning envision san jose 2040

9855
05:42:16,280 --> 05:42:19,200
plan. There is a lot of space

9856
05:42:19,200 --> 05:42:21,600
in san jose. Let's build where

9857
05:42:21,600 --> 05:42:23,290
it makes sense. I also object

9858
05:42:23,290 --> 05:42:26,700
to the lack of public input on

9859
05:42:26,700 --> 05:42:29,100
this rezoning. Thank you that

9860
05:42:29,100 --> 05:42:32,100
>> your time next speaker. Nick

9861
05:42:32,160 --> 05:42:36,250
cochran come on down. I'm here

9862
05:42:36,250 --> 05:42:38,120
>> today speaking as a board

9863
05:42:38,120 --> 05:42:40,150
member of families and homes

9864
05:42:40,150 --> 05:42:42,415
san jose at 100% volunteer

9865
05:42:44,270 --> 05:42:47,270
locally based city grass >> a

9866
05:42:48,400 --> 05:42:50,220
city wide grass neighborhood or

9867
05:42:50,220 --> 05:42:52,220
group directly representing

9868
05:42:52,230 --> 05:42:54,000
san jose residents and voters.

9869
05:42:54,000 --> 05:42:56,400
I'm standing up here alone but

9870
05:42:56,400 --> 05:42:58,150
others stand with me. I am

9871
05:42:58,150 --> 05:43:00,500
presenting a petition titian

9872
05:43:00,500 --> 05:43:02,405
signed by 4244 san jose

9873
05:43:03,170 --> 05:43:05,210
residents. So I am actually

9874
05:43:05,210 --> 05:43:07,200
speaking for those residents

9875
05:43:07,200 --> 05:43:09,900
and more. We oppose the missing

9876
05:43:09,900 --> 05:43:11,700
middle recommendation from the

9877
05:43:11,700 --> 05:43:13,100
planning commission and staff.

9878
05:43:13,100 --> 05:43:14,170
the following is my personal

9879
05:43:14,170 --> 05:43:16,240
comment. We are here today

9880
05:43:16,240 --> 05:43:18,600
because of decisions and votes

9881
05:43:18,600 --> 05:43:21,260
made by 22 and 2023 by the city

9882
05:43:21,260 --> 05:43:23,270
council and staff then who

9883
05:43:23,270 --> 05:43:25,230
worked on the housing element.

9884
05:43:25,230 --> 05:43:27,200
you were responsible for the

9885
05:43:27,200 --> 05:43:29,402
situation today. Fix your

9886
05:43:30,400 --> 05:43:32,200
error. Do not tell us you

9887
05:43:32,200 --> 05:43:34,290
can't. You got us here. Please

9888
05:43:34,290 --> 05:43:37,280
get us out of here. Thank you.

9889
05:43:37,280 --> 05:43:40,628
thank you. That your time? Next

9890
05:43:41,300 --> 05:43:43,403
speaker. >> I strongly support

9891
05:43:46,140 --> 05:43:47,270
the memorandum from

9892
05:43:47,270 --> 05:43:48,290
councilmember baltimore katie

9893
05:43:48,290 --> 05:43:51,250
ortiz and has the >> compromise

9894
05:43:51,250 --> 05:43:53,800
to replace all of the proposed

9895
05:43:53,800 --> 05:43:54,270
user zoning with m1 along with

9896
05:43:54,270 --> 05:43:56,000
the preservation of our and

9897
05:43:56,000 --> 05:43:57,230
along the forest avenue is what

9898
05:43:57,230 --> 05:43:58,280
makes sense for the winchester

9899
05:43:58,280 --> 05:44:00,130
corridor. I have attended

9900
05:44:00,130 --> 05:44:02,100
almost all of the general plan

9901
05:44:02,100 --> 05:44:03,120
for review meetings and

9902
05:44:03,120 --> 05:44:04,260
appreciate that the task force

9903
05:44:04,260 --> 05:44:06,190
members did not support the

9904
05:44:06,190 --> 05:44:08,130
staff's recommendation for u r

9905
05:44:08,130 --> 05:44:09,230
and held multiple votes and

9906
05:44:09,230 --> 05:44:11,110
also countered with proposals

9907
05:44:11,110 --> 05:44:14,000
of m1 zoning in place of u r.

9908
05:44:14,000 --> 05:44:15,900
corey residents understand that

9909
05:44:15,900 --> 05:44:16,260
more housing is needed but u r

9910
05:44:16,260 --> 05:44:18,200
zoning would not create housing

9911
05:44:18,200 --> 05:44:19,200
that would actually benefit the

9912
05:44:19,200 --> 05:44:21,000
potential new residents and

9913
05:44:21,000 --> 05:44:22,100
would severely negatively

9914
05:44:22,100 --> 05:44:23,140
impact the current ones. The

9915
05:44:23,140 --> 05:44:24,200
already terrible traffic would

9916
05:44:24,200 --> 05:44:26,600
be awful and further the lack

9917
05:44:26,600 --> 05:44:27,900
of any parking mandate would be

9918
05:44:27,900 --> 05:44:28,260
devastating to an area already

9919
05:44:28,260 --> 05:44:30,180
impacted by overflow parking

9920
05:44:30,180 --> 05:44:31,230
from valley fair that has been

9921
05:44:31,230 --> 05:44:33,200
exacerbated since the increase

9922
05:44:33,200 --> 05:44:35,000
the parking fees there area is

9923
05:44:35,000 --> 05:44:36,500
not at all appropriate for u r

9924
05:44:36,500 --> 05:44:37,220
zoning m u n zoning along the

9925
05:44:37,220 --> 05:44:38,230
winchester boulevard and

9926
05:44:38,230 --> 05:44:40,600
preserving r and along forest

9927
05:44:40,600 --> 05:44:41,140
avenue is a reasonable

9928
05:44:41,140 --> 05:44:43,414
compromise. Thank you. Thank

9929
05:44:44,900 --> 05:44:46,000
you. Next >> speaker kooser jr

9930
05:44:46,000 --> 05:44:48,280
woods come on down daisy mendez

9931
05:44:48,280 --> 05:44:50,428
and julie finn harris. >>

9932
05:44:51,180 --> 05:44:53,180
go ahead. We were here in june

9933
05:44:53,180 --> 05:44:55,180
2025 talking about 17 and 15

9934
05:44:56,150 --> 05:44:58,300
story project zoning change

9935
05:44:58,300 --> 05:45:00,600
at 826 north winchester with

9936
05:45:00,600 --> 05:45:02,600
overwhelming opposition from

9937
05:45:02,250 --> 05:45:04,110
the community the council

9938
05:45:04,110 --> 05:45:06,100
thankfully denied. Now we are

9939
05:45:06,100 --> 05:45:08,110
back again talking about

9940
05:45:08,110 --> 05:45:09,210
rezoning multiple lots on the

9941
05:45:09,210 --> 05:45:10,260
winchester corridor. I'm

9942
05:45:10,260 --> 05:45:11,270
shocked that winchester

9943
05:45:11,270 --> 05:45:13,120
boulevard is being targeted

9944
05:45:13,120 --> 05:45:15,120
again given many members of the

9945
05:45:15,120 --> 05:45:17,800
planning task force question

9946
05:45:17,800 --> 05:45:19,220
why I would request that the

9947
05:45:19,220 --> 05:45:21,170
issues of the densification

9948
05:45:21,170 --> 05:45:22,270
of residential neighborhoods

9949
05:45:22,270 --> 05:45:24,110
and the winchester corridor

9950
05:45:24,110 --> 05:45:26,800
rezoning be considered

9951
05:45:26,800 --> 05:45:28,150
separately. This would be

9952
05:45:28,150 --> 05:45:29,280
similar to the action at the

9953
05:45:29,280 --> 05:45:31,120
planning commission task force

9954
05:45:31,120 --> 05:45:32,150
where the commissioners pulled

9955
05:45:32,150 --> 05:45:34,200
out these two issues for

9956
05:45:34,200 --> 05:45:36,170
discussion and had divided vote

9957
05:45:36,170 --> 05:45:38,100
on the winchester corridor.

9958
05:45:38,100 --> 05:45:39,160
unfortunately the planning

9959
05:45:39,160 --> 05:45:41,200
director didn't spend any time

9960
05:45:41,200 --> 05:45:43,700
explaining to the council the

9961
05:45:43,700 --> 05:45:45,700
winchester corridor rezoning

9962
05:45:46,200 --> 05:45:47,270
don't break the promise to this

9963
05:45:47,270 --> 05:45:49,100
and as a neighborhoods don't

9964
05:45:49,100 --> 05:45:50,100
go forward with the planning

9965
05:45:50,100 --> 05:45:52,160
department's proposal, don't

9966
05:45:52,160 --> 05:45:55,160
let. >> thank you that your

9967
05:45:55,200 --> 05:45:57,420
time next speaker. Good

9968
05:46:04,150 --> 05:46:07,280
evening. I live in 83 san jose.

9969
05:46:07,280 --> 05:46:09,200
it's made up of distinct

9970
05:46:09,200 --> 05:46:10,240
neighborhoods and this proposal

9971
05:46:10,240 --> 05:46:12,700
can irreparably change and

9972
05:46:12,700 --> 05:46:14,110
possibly destroy them. It will

9973
05:46:14,110 --> 05:46:16,100
certainly negatively impact

9974
05:46:16,100 --> 05:46:18,230
livability. A large influx

9975
05:46:18,230 --> 05:46:19,280
of new residents will make the

9976
05:46:19,280 --> 05:46:21,130
city even less habitable

9977
05:46:21,130 --> 05:46:23,110
without more certainty, without

9978
05:46:23,110 --> 05:46:25,800
more services and resources

9979
05:46:25,800 --> 05:46:27,230
which you can't provide. Under

9980
05:46:27,230 --> 05:46:29,210
this proposal neighbors will

9981
05:46:29,210 --> 05:46:31,200
lose their ability to have

9982
05:46:31,200 --> 05:46:33,170
input on future projects with

9983
05:46:33,170 --> 05:46:35,100
only ministerial review and no

9984
05:46:35,100 --> 05:46:37,100
subjective design requirements.

9985
05:46:37,190 --> 05:46:39,290
historic call and preservation

9986
05:46:39,290 --> 05:46:41,230
conservation districts which

9987
05:46:41,230 --> 05:46:43,100
should be protected can be

9988
05:46:43,100 --> 05:46:45,220
changed beyond recognition. I

9989
05:46:45,220 --> 05:46:46,290
understand that the state is

9990
05:46:46,290 --> 05:46:48,429
mandating many changes which

9991
05:46:49,100 --> 05:46:50,270
san jose needs to comply with

9992
05:46:50,270 --> 05:46:52,100
why the city is proposing to

9993
05:46:52,100 --> 05:46:53,210
make even more draconian

9994
05:46:53,210 --> 05:46:55,800
changes is frankly beyond

9995
05:46:55,800 --> 05:46:56,240
my comprehension. You are

9996
05:46:56,240 --> 05:46:58,700
making the current residents

9997
05:46:58,700 --> 05:46:59,210
of the city plant part of a

9998
05:46:59,210 --> 05:47:01,180
zoning experiment that will

9999
05:47:01,180 --> 05:47:03,180
have unintended consequences.

10000
05:47:03,220 --> 05:47:06,220
I'm just >> going. >> thank

10001
05:47:09,150 --> 05:47:10,250
you. Next speaker roberta moore

10002
05:47:10,250 --> 05:47:12,140
come on down rush patel and

10003
05:47:12,140 --> 05:47:15,140
john leave it. Good evening.

10004
05:47:16,600 --> 05:47:18,500
during the 45 years I've lived

10005
05:47:18,500 --> 05:47:19,230
in san jose there have been

10006
05:47:19,230 --> 05:47:22,200
city council decisions which I

10007
05:47:22,200 --> 05:47:24,600
have not agreed but have always

10008
05:47:24,600 --> 05:47:26,800
been able to understand and if

10009
05:47:26,800 --> 05:47:28,100
not appreciate opposing points

10010
05:47:28,100 --> 05:47:31,190
of view at least until now. The

10011
05:47:31,190 --> 05:47:33,130
planning commission's recent 9

10012
05:47:33,130 --> 05:47:35,130
to 2 decision to effectively

10013
05:47:35,130 --> 05:47:38,400
nullify the envisioned san jose

10014
05:47:38,400 --> 05:47:40,400
2040 plan I recommending

10015
05:47:40,200 --> 05:47:42,170
dramatic up zoning uniformly

10016
05:47:42,170 --> 05:47:44,400
across all residential

10017
05:47:44,400 --> 05:47:46,404
neighborhoods is misguided and

10018
05:47:47,230 --> 05:47:48,270
in my view a complete

10019
05:47:48,270 --> 05:47:50,427
abdication of the dissenting

10020
05:47:51,900 --> 05:47:53,000
commissioners overall duty and

10021
05:47:53,000 --> 05:47:55,000
responsibility to the citizens

10022
05:47:55,000 --> 05:47:58,240
of san jose. Quite frankly I am

10023
05:47:58,240 --> 05:48:00,424
done dumbfounded at finding

10024
05:48:01,100 --> 05:48:03,800
myself in the position

10025
05:48:03,800 --> 05:48:05,200
of having to vehemently voice

10026
05:48:05,200 --> 05:48:06,200
subjection to this vacuous

10027
05:48:06,200 --> 05:48:09,400
policy recommendation. I don't

10028
05:48:09,400 --> 05:48:11,200
recall carmen since being given

10029
05:48:11,200 --> 05:48:14,170
a leave of absence. I trust

10030
05:48:14,170 --> 05:48:16,210
that common sense will thank >>

10031
05:48:16,210 --> 05:48:18,500
you that your time next

10032
05:48:18,500 --> 05:48:21,500
speaker. Carol last name I

10033
05:48:22,190 --> 05:48:24,100
think heffley. Come on down,

10034
05:48:24,100 --> 05:48:27,100
chandler three hand and sam.

10035
05:48:29,800 --> 05:48:31,800
go ahead. >> while the city has

10036
05:48:31,800 --> 05:48:34,000
the authority to rezone and

10037
05:48:34,000 --> 05:48:37,000
pass ordinances a single family

10038
05:48:37,210 --> 05:48:39,421
lot with existing deed

10039
05:48:40,200 --> 05:48:42,420
restrictions cannot be made

10040
05:48:44,100 --> 05:48:47,601
null and void by these actions.

10041
05:48:48,120 --> 05:48:50,700
the enforcement of deed

10042
05:48:50,700 --> 05:48:53,700
restrictions is a civil court

10043
05:48:53,250 --> 05:48:55,250
>> matter between private

10044
05:48:56,220 --> 05:48:58,220
properties parties. Excuse

10045
05:48:59,500 --> 05:49:01,140
me >>. Our neighborhoods will

10046
05:49:01,140 --> 05:49:03,150
actively defend to our

10047
05:49:03,150 --> 05:49:05,415
restrictions of one residential

10048
05:49:06,220 --> 05:49:09,622
unit per lot in court against

10049
05:49:10,200 --> 05:49:13,290
any and all development on our

10050
05:49:13,290 --> 05:49:15,429
deed restricted single family

10051
05:49:17,110 --> 05:49:19,411
>> lots. Obviously I oppose >>

10052
05:49:20,700 --> 05:49:21,270
this. I'd like to thank the

10053
05:49:21,270 --> 05:49:23,280
building and these guys for

10054
05:49:23,280 --> 05:49:25,290
showing chuckie cheese and the

10055
05:49:25,290 --> 05:49:28,629
first slide. That is six more

10056
05:49:29,500 --> 05:49:32,500
stories >> to go. >> thank you

10057
05:49:32,900 --> 05:49:35,900
that your time. Next speaker.

10058
05:49:37,200 --> 05:49:40,800
>> hi there. I'm judy finn

10059
05:49:40,800 --> 05:49:42,900
harris. I live in cary and I'm

10060
05:49:42,900 --> 05:49:45,150
a renter and I've been laid off

10061
05:49:45,150 --> 05:49:48,700
and >> I am really still hoping

10062
05:49:48,700 --> 05:49:51,900
to make san jose my home to put

10063
05:49:51,900 --> 05:49:52,230
down roots here, maybe invite

10064
05:49:52,230 --> 05:49:54,800
>> my son and his girlfriend as

10065
05:49:54,800 --> 05:49:56,130
they hope to build. Well, we're

10066
05:49:56,130 --> 05:49:57,120
not saying what they're hoping

10067
05:49:57,120 --> 05:50:00,200
to build yet >> but one thing

10068
05:50:00,200 --> 05:50:02,170
that really it's so special

10069
05:50:02,170 --> 05:50:05,280
about san jose is the diverse

10070
05:50:05,280 --> 05:50:07,280
>> and distinct neighborhoods.

10071
05:50:08,180 --> 05:50:09,200
each one has their own

10072
05:50:09,200 --> 05:50:12,130
characteristics and that's the

10073
05:50:12,130 --> 05:50:14,170
result of years of careful

10074
05:50:14,170 --> 05:50:15,290
planning, thoughtful

10075
05:50:15,290 --> 05:50:17,290
consideration done hand-in-hand

10076
05:50:18,210 --> 05:50:20,421
with our community >> members.

10077
05:50:21,300 --> 05:50:23,190
so I urge the council to please

10078
05:50:23,190 --> 05:50:24,280
make sure that there's enough

10079
05:50:24,280 --> 05:50:27,150
time to do this to make the

10080
05:50:27,150 --> 05:50:29,110
thoughtful decisions that won't

10081
05:50:29,110 --> 05:50:30,250
negatively impact our

10082
05:50:30,250 --> 05:50:32,250
neighborhoods by rushing

10083
05:50:33,900 --> 05:50:34,180
something >> and to preserve

10084
05:50:34,180 --> 05:50:35,260
that character. And yes, I

10085
05:50:35,260 --> 05:50:38,260
support our district. Markey's

10086
05:50:39,100 --> 05:50:42,100
proposal. Thank you. >> can you

10087
05:50:47,600 --> 05:50:50,140
hear me? Yes. About two weeks

10088
05:50:50,140 --> 05:50:51,200
>> ago I came to the planning

10089
05:50:51,200 --> 05:50:53,150
group and I asked her hearing

10090
05:50:53,150 --> 05:50:55,100
about data centers and that's

10091
05:50:55,100 --> 05:50:57,120
coming up. I very strongly

10092
05:50:57,120 --> 05:50:59,120
recommend you put data centers

10093
05:50:59,120 --> 05:51:00,280
high on the list of things to

10094
05:51:00,280 --> 05:51:02,160
add to your generic general

10095
05:51:02,160 --> 05:51:04,190
plan. You wisely called for a

10096
05:51:04,190 --> 05:51:05,240
meeting tomorrow night. You'll

10097
05:51:05,240 --> 05:51:07,190
hear more about it. Then on

10098
05:51:07,190 --> 05:51:09,419
residential that issue also

10099
05:51:10,210 --> 05:51:13,600
covers water power and open

10100
05:51:13,600 --> 05:51:14,230
space. And I ask you to

10101
05:51:14,230 --> 05:51:16,270
recommend that you spend some

10102
05:51:16,270 --> 05:51:19,100
time looking at the ibm

10103
05:51:19,100 --> 05:51:20,150
property because you're going

10104
05:51:20,150 --> 05:51:22,600
to need open space for more

10105
05:51:22,600 --> 05:51:24,000
people living here. You don't

10106
05:51:24,000 --> 05:51:26,600
want the power being taken from

10107
05:51:26,600 --> 05:51:27,250
the people to raise the price

10108
05:51:27,250 --> 05:51:28,270
of power to the people that

10109
05:51:28,270 --> 05:51:30,200
live in our houses here. You

10110
05:51:30,200 --> 05:51:32,110
should use the power you

10111
05:51:32,110 --> 05:51:34,140
got from manufacturing and keep

10112
05:51:34,140 --> 05:51:36,100
the prices down as low as you

10113
05:51:36,100 --> 05:51:38,250
can. And number three like some

10114
05:51:38,250 --> 05:51:40,170
company like ours like green

10115
05:51:40,170 --> 05:51:42,600
cloud it's not good to use

10116
05:51:42,600 --> 05:51:44,400
water in a data center. I

10117
05:51:44,400 --> 05:51:45,700
really respect what you're

10118
05:51:45,700 --> 05:51:46,160
doing. You've got to bury thank

10119
05:51:46,160 --> 05:51:49,160
god and keep it up. Thank you.

10120
05:51:49,160 --> 05:51:51,416
next speaker roberto moore

10121
05:51:56,130 --> 05:51:58,000
housing commission speaking

10122
05:51:58,000 --> 05:52:00,250
personally. Miss information is

10123
05:52:00,250 --> 05:52:02,425
driving >> this proposal since

10124
05:52:03,160 --> 05:52:05,416
2000 >> 15 h c d decertified >>

10125
05:52:07,230 --> 05:52:10,210
seven city e's and fined two

10126
05:52:10,210 --> 05:52:13,120
one and they were all for very

10127
05:52:13,120 --> 05:52:15,120
serious violations >> despite

10128
05:52:16,120 --> 05:52:18,412
verbal conversations not one

10129
05:52:19,210 --> 05:52:21,270
involved council rejecting >> a

10130
05:52:21,270 --> 05:52:24,270
density proposal not one. This

10131
05:52:26,210 --> 05:52:28,210
proposal >> will undermined >>

10132
05:52:29,160 --> 05:52:32,160
our city's preservation goals.

10133
05:52:34,800 --> 05:52:36,260
barriers to affordable housing

10134
05:52:36,260 --> 05:52:39,260
are >> financing and costs, not

10135
05:52:39,270 --> 05:52:42,627
density and land. How did staff

10136
05:52:43,120 --> 05:52:46,400
get this so >> wrong? Garbage

10137
05:52:46,400 --> 05:52:48,404
in, garbage out require >>

10138
05:52:49,300 --> 05:52:50,270
staff to separate legal

10139
05:52:50,270 --> 05:52:52,210
mandates from discretionary

10140
05:52:52,210 --> 05:52:55,210
choices measure the impact and

10141
05:52:55,250 --> 05:52:58,625
>> thank you that your time. A

10142
05:52:59,800 --> 05:53:03,100
meal jack and ah. Come on down.

10143
05:53:03,100 --> 05:53:05,401
kelly macdonagh >> and gerry

10144
05:53:06,400 --> 05:53:09,400
giles. >> good evening. My name

10145
05:53:09,400 --> 05:53:12,150
is sam district nine and me a

10146
05:53:12,150 --> 05:53:14,100
vice mayor and the city

10147
05:53:14,100 --> 05:53:15,500
council. Thank you for your

10148
05:53:15,500 --> 05:53:16,280
leadership. I know you care

10149
05:53:16,280 --> 05:53:18,500
about this city and make the

10150
05:53:18,500 --> 05:53:21,300
best decisions. We ask you to

10151
05:53:21,300 --> 05:53:23,100
keep >> the promise. The

10152
05:53:23,100 --> 05:53:25,120
promise is what make america >>

10153
05:53:25,120 --> 05:53:28,100
america. We love countries that

10154
05:53:28,100 --> 05:53:30,000
have law of the jungle. They

10155
05:53:30,000 --> 05:53:31,230
make laws along the way and

10156
05:53:31,230 --> 05:53:33,130
they mess up quantities of life

10157
05:53:33,130 --> 05:53:34,220
of people and people live. I

10158
05:53:34,220 --> 05:53:36,500
left there for 50 years. I

10159
05:53:36,500 --> 05:53:38,100
never come back to that

10160
05:53:38,100 --> 05:53:41,100
communist country today let us

10161
05:53:41,400 --> 05:53:42,170
honor >> that. When people

10162
05:53:42,170 --> 05:53:44,180
choose a single housing they

10163
05:53:44,180 --> 05:53:46,800
choose single housing. When

10164
05:53:46,800 --> 05:53:48,000
they choose a community where

10165
05:53:48,000 --> 05:53:49,180
their the kids go to the

10166
05:53:49,180 --> 05:53:51,180
certain schools they want to

10167
05:53:51,180 --> 05:53:53,300
go to those schools. Let's not

10168
05:53:53,300 --> 05:53:54,270
mess up that community. Let's

10169
05:53:54,270 --> 05:53:56,800
not put density where it

10170
05:53:56,800 --> 05:53:58,150
belongs to a place where there

10171
05:53:58,150 --> 05:54:01,300
are works. So please honor >>

10172
05:54:01,300 --> 05:54:02,250
that promise. Help them to keep

10173
05:54:02,250 --> 05:54:04,180
their promise and we ask you to

10174
05:54:04,180 --> 05:54:06,000
keep the promise that keep

10175
05:54:06,000 --> 05:54:08,120
single housing single housing.

10176
05:54:08,120 --> 05:54:11,120
>> next speaker I'm jonathan

10177
05:54:17,270 --> 05:54:19,160
and I have lived >> in san jose

10178
05:54:19,160 --> 05:54:22,616
for almost 43 years and I like

10179
05:54:23,800 --> 05:54:25,200
the neighborhood I live in. In

10180
05:54:25,200 --> 05:54:27,100
fact most of my neighbors have

10181
05:54:27,100 --> 05:54:30,100
lived around us are almost 2530

10182
05:54:30,300 --> 05:54:33,300
plus. >> so this proposal was

10183
05:54:33,230 --> 05:54:35,140
permanently destroyed. That

10184
05:54:35,140 --> 05:54:38,300
community feeling we have if

10185
05:54:38,300 --> 05:54:40,400
you make this decision is not

10186
05:54:40,400 --> 05:54:42,160
something you can reverse once

10187
05:54:42,160 --> 05:54:44,200
it happens it's going to affect

10188
05:54:44,200 --> 05:54:46,230
central day forever. Another

10189
05:54:46,230 --> 05:54:48,190
question I have is what problem

10190
05:54:48,190 --> 05:54:50,190
are resolving california

10191
05:54:51,230 --> 05:54:53,150
population is going down.

10192
05:54:53,150 --> 05:54:56,200
people are moving out. In fact

10193
05:54:56,200 --> 05:54:58,900
the net loss of population in

10194
05:54:58,900 --> 05:55:00,200
california is wonderful and

10195
05:55:00,200 --> 05:55:02,100
this kind of decision by the

10196
05:55:02,100 --> 05:55:04,120
state is pushing more people

10197
05:55:04,120 --> 05:55:06,140
out. They are moving to the

10198
05:55:06,140 --> 05:55:08,800
state where this kind of junk

10199
05:55:08,800 --> 05:55:10,190
is not thrown at them. And

10200
05:55:10,190 --> 05:55:13,300
second thing is even in

10201
05:55:13,300 --> 05:55:15,300
san jose for the last ten years

10202
05:55:15,300 --> 05:55:18,170
are more we are losing point 3%

10203
05:55:18,170 --> 05:55:20,270
>> every thank you that your

10204
05:55:20,270 --> 05:55:23,270
time next speaker david noel

10205
05:55:24,200 --> 05:55:27,602
come on down and tom wilson. >>

10206
05:55:29,270 --> 05:55:31,150
good evening mayor and council

10207
05:55:31,150 --> 05:55:32,230
members my name is maharshi

10208
05:55:32,230 --> 05:55:34,110
patel and I'm a resident

10209
05:55:34,110 --> 05:55:35,270
of district eight. I'm speaking

10210
05:55:35,270 --> 05:55:37,500
tonight in support

10211
05:55:37,500 --> 05:55:38,170
of increasing density to 32

10212
05:55:38,170 --> 05:55:40,140
dwelling units per acre in our

10213
05:55:40,140 --> 05:55:42,250
one zone areas. My generation

10214
05:55:42,250 --> 05:55:44,400
went to school here, worked

10215
05:55:44,400 --> 05:55:46,110
hard. Ghada got her degrees and

10216
05:55:46,110 --> 05:55:48,400
became working professionals.

10217
05:55:48,400 --> 05:55:49,150
yeah we're completely priced

10218
05:55:49,150 --> 05:55:50,190
out of the very neighborhood

10219
05:55:50,190 --> 05:55:52,500
that we grew up in. We're in a

10220
05:55:52,500 --> 05:55:53,800
tough spot that we don't

10221
05:55:53,800 --> 05:55:55,300
qualify for affordable housing

10222
05:55:55,300 --> 05:55:56,200
and we can't afford the

10223
05:55:56,200 --> 05:55:57,140
standard market rate housing as

10224
05:55:57,140 --> 05:55:59,140
well because previous

10225
05:55:59,150 --> 05:56:01,200
generations bought their home,

10226
05:56:01,200 --> 05:56:02,100
bought one, their home prices

10227
05:56:02,100 --> 05:56:04,600
were 3 to 4 times lower and

10228
05:56:04,600 --> 05:56:05,170
interest rates were

10229
05:56:05,170 --> 05:56:07,170
increasingly lower. Longtime

10230
05:56:07,250 --> 05:56:09,600
residents are understandably

10231
05:56:09,600 --> 05:56:11,900
staying put but without new

10232
05:56:11,900 --> 05:56:12,270
housing options there is simply

10233
05:56:12,270 --> 05:56:14,170
no room for young families and

10234
05:56:14,170 --> 05:56:15,200
working professionals like us

10235
05:56:15,200 --> 05:56:17,170
to move in. This isn't just

10236
05:56:17,170 --> 05:56:19,200
about housing. It's about the

10237
05:56:19,200 --> 05:56:20,220
future of our community. When

10238
05:56:20,220 --> 05:56:21,270
young families can't afford to

10239
05:56:21,270 --> 05:56:23,120
live here, our public schools

10240
05:56:23,120 --> 05:56:25,100
lose enrollment and that they

10241
05:56:25,100 --> 05:56:26,260
desperately need to stay open.

10242
05:56:26,260 --> 05:56:28,000
in the past year we've seen

10243
05:56:28,000 --> 05:56:30,400
multiple schools close this.

10244
05:56:31,230 --> 05:56:34,700
thank you. That's your time.

10245
05:56:34,700 --> 05:56:35,240
sandra mckinnon come on down

10246
05:56:35,240 --> 05:56:38,624
and robert mckinnon >> hi my my

10247
05:56:40,170 --> 05:56:42,100
name is jack adler. I am an

10248
05:56:42,100 --> 05:56:44,000
immigrant from india. I grew up

10249
05:56:44,000 --> 05:56:47,200
in india in a city I came to

10250
05:56:47,200 --> 05:56:49,190
chicago, lived in a city lived

10251
05:56:49,190 --> 05:56:51,280
in york, lived in philadelphia

10252
05:56:51,280 --> 05:56:54,120
before moving here, lived it

10253
05:56:54,120 --> 05:56:55,280
until we have a child who had a

10254
05:56:55,280 --> 05:56:58,260
child. We moved to glen because

10255
05:56:58,260 --> 05:57:01,626
we wanted a room. We wanted

10256
05:57:02,400 --> 05:57:04,250
backyard I my job was in

10257
05:57:04,250 --> 05:57:06,210
san francisco, still chose to

10258
05:57:06,210 --> 05:57:09,400
live here and commute. What

10259
05:57:09,400 --> 05:57:10,230
this proposal is doing is

10260
05:57:10,230 --> 05:57:12,140
removing choice from people and

10261
05:57:12,140 --> 05:57:14,414
that is un-american. Inherently

10262
05:57:15,150 --> 05:57:17,150
people who like cities can live

10263
05:57:17,150 --> 05:57:18,240
here. There is there is an

10264
05:57:18,240 --> 05:57:20,200
apartment building across from

10265
05:57:20,200 --> 05:57:23,160
city hall that has 15 open

10266
05:57:23,160 --> 05:57:25,600
apartments. Nobody's renting

10267
05:57:25,600 --> 05:57:28,700
them there, is there is if you

10268
05:57:28,700 --> 05:57:32,140
want to live in middle there is

10269
05:57:32,140 --> 05:57:35,270
there are areas like that we

10270
05:57:35,270 --> 05:57:37,230
the the planning of the

10271
05:57:37,230 --> 05:57:39,230
planning commission should >>

10272
05:57:40,220 --> 05:57:43,622
that's your time next speaker.

10273
05:57:44,190 --> 05:57:48,219
>> hi I'm kelly mcdonough. I'm

10274
05:57:49,250 --> 05:57:51,200
speaking today as a member

10275
05:57:51,200 --> 05:57:52,150
of sharon corey neighbors to

10276
05:57:52,150 --> 05:57:53,170
urge you to reject the high

10277
05:57:53,170 --> 05:57:55,700
density mixed use rezoning for

10278
05:57:55,700 --> 05:57:57,130
north winchester boulevard. The

10279
05:57:57,130 --> 05:57:58,280
foundational principle

10280
05:57:58,280 --> 05:58:00,140
of transit oriented development

10281
05:58:00,140 --> 05:58:01,260
is pairing high density housing

10282
05:58:01,260 --> 05:58:03,100
with high capacity frequent

10283
05:58:03,100 --> 05:58:05,220
transit. This proposal aligns

10284
05:58:05,220 --> 05:58:07,140
with those standards. Direct

10285
05:58:07,140 --> 05:58:08,260
service on this stretch relies

10286
05:58:08,260 --> 05:58:11,000
on a single bus route vta 60

10287
05:58:11,000 --> 05:58:12,210
with busses running 20 20

10288
05:58:12,210 --> 05:58:14,270
minutes apart because line 16

10289
05:58:14,270 --> 05:58:16,200
navigates major freeway

10290
05:58:16,200 --> 05:58:17,400
chokepoints and airport

10291
05:58:17,400 --> 05:58:18,160
terminals. It suffers from

10292
05:58:18,160 --> 05:58:20,100
routine delays. There's no

10293
05:58:20,100 --> 05:58:21,150
light rail, no heavy rail, no

10294
05:58:21,150 --> 05:58:23,000
dedicated transit lane along

10295
05:58:23,000 --> 05:58:25,300
this segment. Assuming future

10296
05:58:25,300 --> 05:58:26,900
residents won't drive here is

10297
05:58:26,900 --> 05:58:28,500
unrealistic. Without true rapid

10298
05:58:28,500 --> 05:58:29,190
transit infrastructure, high

10299
05:58:29,190 --> 05:58:31,120
density rezoning will create

10300
05:58:31,120 --> 05:58:32,190
car dependent development

10301
05:58:32,190 --> 05:58:34,200
spilling traffic into parking

10302
05:58:34,200 --> 05:58:35,220
overflow directly into our

10303
05:58:35,220 --> 05:58:37,180
neighborhood. I support michael

10304
05:58:37,180 --> 05:58:39,150
mckay's proposal to leave the

10305
05:58:39,150 --> 05:58:41,900
forest businesses alone and to

10306
05:58:41,900 --> 05:58:42,230
limit the winchester sites to

10307
05:58:42,230 --> 05:58:44,270
mixed use neighborhood zoning.

10308
05:58:44,270 --> 05:58:47,200
thank you. Thank you. Next

10309
05:58:47,200 --> 05:58:50,200
speaker. >> it is proposed up

10310
05:58:53,100 --> 05:58:55,100
zoning helps the city. Helps

10311
05:58:55,100 --> 05:58:57,100
corporations helps developers

10312
05:58:57,210 --> 05:58:59,280
and helps billionaires. But

10313
05:58:59,280 --> 05:59:01,260
this predatory proposal is

10314
05:59:01,260 --> 05:59:03,100
at the expense of all working

10315
05:59:03,100 --> 05:59:05,230
class neighborhoods. Yes, up

10316
05:59:05,230 --> 05:59:07,230
zoning raises desperate

10317
05:59:08,200 --> 05:59:09,230
desperately needed property tax

10318
05:59:09,230 --> 05:59:11,200
revenue for the city and county

10319
05:59:11,200 --> 05:59:13,210
and it helps the tech pros by

10320
05:59:13,210 --> 05:59:14,250
building housing for their

10321
05:59:14,250 --> 05:59:16,240
employees. But this is at the

10322
05:59:16,240 --> 05:59:19,900
expense of we the people of the

10323
05:59:19,900 --> 05:59:21,180
majority who you are supposed

10324
05:59:21,180 --> 05:59:23,270
to be representing. Working

10325
05:59:23,270 --> 05:59:25,240
class residents bought modest

10326
05:59:25,240 --> 05:59:27,220
single family homes in san jose

10327
05:59:27,220 --> 05:59:30,120
to escape the pack like sardine

10328
05:59:30,120 --> 05:59:32,210
density of apartment living.

10329
05:59:32,210 --> 05:59:34,120
now you want to bring apartment

10330
05:59:34,120 --> 05:59:35,250
living density to their

10331
05:59:35,250 --> 05:59:37,250
neighborhoods based on 1100

10332
05:59:39,300 --> 05:59:41,100
pages of letters written to the

10333
05:59:41,100 --> 05:59:43,200
city regarding zoning. The

10334
05:59:43,200 --> 05:59:45,200
public is overwhelmingly

10335
05:59:45,600 --> 05:59:47,800
opposed. This is your worst

10336
05:59:47,800 --> 05:59:49,200
solution to the housing crisis

10337
05:59:49,200 --> 05:59:51,200
yet so I urge you to vote

10338
05:59:51,200 --> 05:59:53,270
against it. Thank you. >> thank

10339
05:59:53,270 --> 05:59:56,000
you. Next speaker elva wilson

10340
05:59:56,000 --> 05:59:59,000
enrique navarro and gene hunt.

10341
05:59:59,260 --> 06:00:02,626
come on down. Go ahead. >> good

10342
06:00:03,220 --> 06:00:04,270
evening. Honorable mayor and

10343
06:00:04,270 --> 06:00:07,000
city council. I'm dave noel,

10344
06:00:07,000 --> 06:00:08,200
district nine resident

10345
06:00:08,200 --> 06:00:09,150
neighborhood leader and present

10346
06:00:09,150 --> 06:00:10,700
of erickson neighborhood

10347
06:00:10,700 --> 06:00:12,300
association. I urge you to

10348
06:00:12,300 --> 06:00:13,200
adopt the following strategy

10349
06:00:13,200 --> 06:00:15,700
for missing rental housing. >>

10350
06:00:15,700 --> 06:00:16,220
first conform residential

10351
06:00:16,220 --> 06:00:17,270
neighborhood densities with

10352
06:00:17,270 --> 06:00:20,800
current state laws. Second add

10353
06:00:20,800 --> 06:00:21,200
a minimum parking requirement

10354
06:00:21,200 --> 06:00:23,170
for residential neighborhoods

10355
06:00:23,170 --> 06:00:24,260
of one off street parking space

10356
06:00:24,260 --> 06:00:27,110
per unit as allowed by sb nine.

10357
06:00:27,110 --> 06:00:29,200
and third advocate at the state

10358
06:00:29,200 --> 06:00:30,800
>> level to resolve the

10359
06:00:30,800 --> 06:00:32,300
construction defect liability

10360
06:00:32,300 --> 06:00:33,190
laws that currently prevent

10361
06:00:33,190 --> 06:00:35,100
building condos which can

10362
06:00:35,100 --> 06:00:36,190
provide the missing little

10363
06:00:36,190 --> 06:00:39,600
housing we need at scale. Here

10364
06:00:39,600 --> 06:00:40,250
are some benefits matching

10365
06:00:40,250 --> 06:00:42,800
state requirements will allow

10366
06:00:42,800 --> 06:00:43,200
sharing best practices with

10367
06:00:43,200 --> 06:00:45,120
neighboring cities, reducing

10368
06:00:45,120 --> 06:00:46,240
staff time and preserving

10369
06:00:46,240 --> 06:00:48,700
capacity to address future

10370
06:00:48,700 --> 06:00:50,220
state laws. Changes locating

10371
06:00:50,220 --> 06:00:51,260
missing middle housing and

10372
06:00:51,260 --> 06:00:53,120
transit corridors will improve

10373
06:00:53,120 --> 06:00:55,120
vmt, tree canopy and service

10374
06:00:55,120 --> 06:00:56,200
delivery while creating

10375
06:00:56,200 --> 06:00:58,200
walkable neighborhoods.

10376
06:00:58,210 --> 06:01:00,400
finally, conforming to state

10377
06:01:00,400 --> 06:01:01,600
law will prevent local

10378
06:01:01,600 --> 06:01:02,160
government mistrust when

10379
06:01:02,160 --> 06:01:05,160
residents become aware of it.

10380
06:01:05,170 --> 06:01:06,190
thank >> you that your time

10381
06:01:06,190 --> 06:01:08,419
next speaker. This housing

10382
06:01:12,120 --> 06:01:15,700
crisis is nothing compared to

10383
06:01:15,700 --> 06:01:17,700
the number of new crises you

10384
06:01:17,700 --> 06:01:19,100
will create if you

10385
06:01:19,100 --> 06:01:21,100
indiscriminately start packing

10386
06:01:21,300 --> 06:01:22,290
and stacking people in

10387
06:01:22,290 --> 06:01:24,150
neighborhoods currently zoned

10388
06:01:24,150 --> 06:01:27,900
for single family homes. Do not

10389
06:01:27,900 --> 06:01:29,160
pack and stack people without

10390
06:01:29,160 --> 06:01:31,500
full realization that each

10391
06:01:31,500 --> 06:01:33,100
dwelling and each individual

10392
06:01:33,100 --> 06:01:35,170
require water resources which

10393
06:01:35,170 --> 06:01:36,230
we're already trying to

10394
06:01:36,230 --> 06:01:38,423
conserve energy, power impact

10395
06:01:40,500 --> 06:01:43,500
garbage and sewer systems. Each

10396
06:01:43,600 --> 06:01:44,260
person deserves to count on

10397
06:01:44,260 --> 06:01:46,270
san jose's first responders

10398
06:01:46,270 --> 06:01:48,160
police, fire, ambulance

10399
06:01:48,160 --> 06:01:50,240
hospitals all of which are

10400
06:01:50,240 --> 06:01:52,120
already overtaxed and

10401
06:01:52,120 --> 06:01:54,260
functioning below optimal staff

10402
06:01:54,260 --> 06:01:56,426
levels. Traffic is impacted

10403
06:01:57,150 --> 06:01:59,170
significantly and there's a

10404
06:01:59,170 --> 06:02:01,210
much longer list. It is

10405
06:02:01,210 --> 06:02:04,000
negligent to pack and stack

10406
06:02:04,000 --> 06:02:06,400
people in san jose's single

10407
06:02:06,400 --> 06:02:07,290
family home neighborhoods. You

10408
06:02:07,290 --> 06:02:10,100
will only be creating a variety

10409
06:02:10,100 --> 06:02:13,100
of new crises. >> thank you.

10410
06:02:13,230 --> 06:02:16,230
next speaker down with the

10411
06:02:19,100 --> 06:02:21,180
update on the city's plan to up

10412
06:02:21,180 --> 06:02:23,800
zoned high density housing and

10413
06:02:23,800 --> 06:02:24,160
single family neighborhoods >>

10414
06:02:24,160 --> 06:02:26,280
is just bad. Do not kill the

10415
06:02:26,280 --> 06:02:28,428
american dream. Working class

10416
06:02:29,700 --> 06:02:30,250
families that worked hard all

10417
06:02:30,250 --> 06:02:32,200
their lives to achieve the

10418
06:02:32,200 --> 06:02:34,160
american dream of owning a

10419
06:02:34,160 --> 06:02:36,150
single family home should not

10420
06:02:36,150 --> 06:02:38,230
have that stripped away. This

10421
06:02:38,230 --> 06:02:40,200
entire proposal only benefits

10422
06:02:40,200 --> 06:02:42,200
>> rich developers, rich

10423
06:02:42,240 --> 06:02:44,240
companies and politicians who

10424
06:02:44,240 --> 06:02:46,180
want to get rich from campaign

10425
06:02:46,180 --> 06:02:48,418
contributions and kickbacks. We

10426
06:02:49,900 --> 06:02:51,700
need our city us to fight for

10427
06:02:51,700 --> 06:02:53,400
us and not special interest

10428
06:02:53,400 --> 06:02:55,210
groups. Protect our rights to a

10429
06:02:55,210 --> 06:02:57,150
decent standard of living and

10430
06:02:57,150 --> 06:02:59,250
their pursuit of happiness.

10431
06:02:59,250 --> 06:03:01,800
san jose is already facing an

10432
06:03:01,800 --> 06:03:03,100
infrastructure crisis with the

10433
06:03:03,100 --> 06:03:04,240
need for electrical power,

10434
06:03:04,240 --> 06:03:07,400
water, road repair and parking.

10435
06:03:07,400 --> 06:03:08,140
adding more people to a

10436
06:03:08,140 --> 06:03:10,200
neighborhood that was never

10437
06:03:10,200 --> 06:03:11,900
designed or intended to

10438
06:03:11,900 --> 06:03:12,150
accommodate that amount

10439
06:03:12,150 --> 06:03:15,600
of people is just plain crazy.

10440
06:03:15,600 --> 06:03:18,600
>> thank you. Next speaker greg

10441
06:03:18,210 --> 06:03:20,190
peralta. Come on down. Doris

10442
06:03:20,190 --> 06:03:23,190
lives and seek. Good evening.

10443
06:03:25,230 --> 06:03:28,190
>> my name is robert wilson. 36

10444
06:03:28,190 --> 06:03:30,120
year resident of deep. I've

10445
06:03:30,120 --> 06:03:32,120
pretty >> aggressively and

10446
06:03:33,150 --> 06:03:35,130
dramatically increasing

10447
06:03:35,130 --> 06:03:37,413
unmandated levels of density

10448
06:03:38,800 --> 06:03:39,260
will have greater negative

10449
06:03:39,260 --> 06:03:42,210
impacts >> in lower income east

10450
06:03:42,210 --> 06:03:45,140
san jose. We >> know it will be

10451
06:03:45,140 --> 06:03:47,250
a fresh tool for predatory

10452
06:03:47,250 --> 06:03:49,425
landlords to exploit vulnerable

10453
06:03:50,180 --> 06:03:53,180
tenants by cramming even more

10454
06:03:53,220 --> 06:03:55,280
renters into tiny cramped

10455
06:03:55,280 --> 06:03:58,190
spaces to house people like

10456
06:03:58,190 --> 06:04:00,419
cattle. Accepting this proposal

10457
06:04:01,280 --> 06:04:05,140
is bad for all of san jose but

10458
06:04:05,140 --> 06:04:08,800
it is systemic oppression for

10459
06:04:08,800 --> 06:04:10,800
lower income neighborhoods.

10460
06:04:10,210 --> 06:04:12,421
please >> consider the negative

10461
06:04:13,150 --> 06:04:15,150
unintended consequences. Thank

10462
06:04:15,290 --> 06:04:18,290
you. >> your next speaker. Good

10463
06:04:21,110 --> 06:04:22,210
evening mayor and council. I'm

10464
06:04:22,210 --> 06:04:23,240
cannavaro with the santa clara

10465
06:04:23,240 --> 06:04:25,140
county association of realtors.

10466
06:04:25,140 --> 06:04:27,600
to build housing and plan for

10467
06:04:27,600 --> 06:04:28,150
growth in a responsible way, we

10468
06:04:28,150 --> 06:04:29,280
shouldn't ignore transportation

10469
06:04:29,280 --> 06:04:31,250
and parking consequences that

10470
06:04:31,250 --> 06:04:34,600
come with increased density in

10471
06:04:34,600 --> 06:04:35,260
low density neighborhoods. When

10472
06:04:35,260 --> 06:04:36,250
more homes are added to an

10473
06:04:36,250 --> 06:04:37,250
existing neighborhood, there

10474
06:04:37,250 --> 06:04:39,600
will be more vehicles, more

10475
06:04:39,600 --> 06:04:40,200
trips, more vehicle miles

10476
06:04:40,200 --> 06:04:41,290
traveled and a greater

10477
06:04:41,290 --> 06:04:43,110
competition for limited parking

10478
06:04:43,110 --> 06:04:44,270
space. Those impacts need to be

10479
06:04:44,270 --> 06:04:46,600
evaluated before density

10480
06:04:46,600 --> 06:04:47,140
increases are approved or not

10481
06:04:47,140 --> 06:04:49,300
after residents are already

10482
06:04:49,300 --> 06:04:50,180
dealing with the consequences.

10483
06:04:50,180 --> 06:04:51,180
that's one reason why we

10484
06:04:51,180 --> 06:04:53,160
support concentrating growth in

10485
06:04:53,160 --> 06:04:54,230
planned growth areas in mixed

10486
06:04:54,230 --> 06:04:55,210
use corridors where

10487
06:04:55,210 --> 06:04:56,170
transportation and

10488
06:04:56,170 --> 06:04:58,700
infrastructure planning can

10489
06:04:58,700 --> 06:04:59,280
better keep pace of development

10490
06:04:59,280 --> 06:05:01,000
and >> housing affordability

10491
06:05:01,000 --> 06:05:03,000
and supply is key and we do not

10492
06:05:03,000 --> 06:05:04,120
need to sacrifice parking and

10493
06:05:04,120 --> 06:05:05,230
increased street congestion to

10494
06:05:05,230 --> 06:05:07,600
accomplish either. We need to

10495
06:05:07,600 --> 06:05:08,400
think about how people

10496
06:05:08,400 --> 06:05:09,210
primarily get around where they

10497
06:05:09,210 --> 06:05:11,000
park and whether the

10498
06:05:11,000 --> 06:05:12,120
surrounding infrastructure can

10499
06:05:12,120 --> 06:05:13,120
accommodate the additional

10500
06:05:13,120 --> 06:05:15,110
demand. So please support the

10501
06:05:15,110 --> 06:05:17,100
man foley campos cohen and

10502
06:05:17,100 --> 06:05:18,900
casey memo and the candela

10503
06:05:18,900 --> 06:05:20,600
ortiz mulcahy memo which

10504
06:05:20,600 --> 06:05:21,130
address these concerns and

10505
06:05:21,130 --> 06:05:23,800
which have a deep >> thank you

10506
06:05:23,800 --> 06:05:26,800
that your time lynn respects

10507
06:05:26,230 --> 06:05:29,600
key. Come on down marin sader

10508
06:05:29,600 --> 06:05:32,600
quest and jessica home. Good

10509
06:05:33,110 --> 06:05:36,611
evening council and mayor. I am

10510
06:05:38,000 --> 06:05:41,500
a 55 year resident in a single

10511
06:05:41,500 --> 06:05:43,290
family neighborhood. I'm from

10512
06:05:43,290 --> 06:05:45,150
district one. I'm present

10513
06:05:45,150 --> 06:05:46,140
of the murdoch neighborhood

10514
06:05:46,140 --> 06:05:48,414
association and I represent

10515
06:05:49,260 --> 06:05:51,260
their opinions on this matter.

10516
06:05:51,260 --> 06:05:53,150
I'm here to say I don't object

10517
06:05:53,150 --> 06:05:56,200
to growth. We do need it but it

10518
06:05:56,200 --> 06:05:57,400
needs to be carefully

10519
06:05:57,400 --> 06:05:59,400
considered. Ample parking

10520
06:05:59,190 --> 06:06:00,230
definitely needs to be

10521
06:06:00,230 --> 06:06:02,170
considered as well as keeping

10522
06:06:02,170 --> 06:06:06,400
trees. I'm a tree advocate. The

10523
06:06:06,400 --> 06:06:08,100
state legislation already has

10524
06:06:08,100 --> 06:06:11,601
sb nine, sb 310 and sb 79 to

10525
06:06:12,280 --> 06:06:14,428
produce enough housing. Please

10526
06:06:15,110 --> 06:06:17,000
leave the neighborhoods alone

10527
06:06:17,000 --> 06:06:19,200
and focus on the numerous areas

10528
06:06:19,200 --> 06:06:21,800
near existing transit as >>

10529
06:06:21,800 --> 06:06:23,300
people who buy there won't need

10530
06:06:23,300 --> 06:06:26,300
cars. Sb 330 says downsizing a

10531
06:06:27,110 --> 06:06:29,400
property after it has been up

10532
06:06:29,400 --> 06:06:32,400
zoned is legally restricted. In

10533
06:06:32,700 --> 06:06:35,500
other words, please be >> thank

10534
06:06:35,500 --> 06:06:38,500
you that your time? Steven

10535
06:06:40,260 --> 06:06:43,120
meyer come on down and michael

10536
06:06:43,120 --> 06:06:45,120
gordon. >> good evening.

10537
06:06:45,230 --> 06:06:47,100
my name is greg. I'm with the

10538
06:06:47,100 --> 06:06:48,800
santa clara county association

10539
06:06:48,800 --> 06:06:50,700
of realtors. I'm here asking

10540
06:06:50,700 --> 06:06:52,120
you to support the megan foley

10541
06:06:52,120 --> 06:06:55,190
campus coin in casey memo. This

10542
06:06:55,190 --> 06:06:57,900
memo strikes the right balance

10543
06:06:57,900 --> 06:06:58,180
by meeting state housing

10544
06:06:58,180 --> 06:07:00,280
mandates and avoids builder

10545
06:07:00,280 --> 06:07:02,428
remedy. It adds parking

10546
06:07:03,600 --> 06:07:05,100
triggers environmental reviews

10547
06:07:05,100 --> 06:07:06,500
above certain density

10548
06:07:06,500 --> 06:07:08,700
thresholds and allows light

10549
06:07:08,700 --> 06:07:10,180
commercial uses for walkable

10550
06:07:10,180 --> 06:07:12,180
neighborhoods. Thank you. >>

10551
06:07:13,270 --> 06:07:15,290
thank you. Next speaker rebecca

10552
06:07:15,290 --> 06:07:17,429
selden. Stephanie >> legs aa

10553
06:07:18,280 --> 06:07:20,160
and david hind all come on down

10554
06:07:20,160 --> 06:07:22,416
. >> good evening mayor and

10555
06:07:23,600 --> 06:07:24,140
council members. My name is

10556
06:07:24,140 --> 06:07:26,100
jessica home and I'm here to

10557
06:07:26,100 --> 06:07:27,140
support planning staff's

10558
06:07:27,140 --> 06:07:29,000
recommendations for a workable

10559
06:07:29,000 --> 06:07:30,140
missing middle housing

10560
06:07:30,140 --> 06:07:31,150
framework and the urban

10561
06:07:31,150 --> 06:07:33,130
residential designation along

10562
06:07:33,130 --> 06:07:34,260
winchester especially for the

10563
06:07:34,260 --> 06:07:36,170
a26 north winchester boulevard

10564
06:07:36,170 --> 06:07:38,170
>> project. As a millennial,

10565
06:07:38,170 --> 06:07:40,300
many of my friends >> in

10566
06:07:40,300 --> 06:07:41,200
san jose's still live with

10567
06:07:41,200 --> 06:07:42,170
their parents and >> I know a

10568
06:07:42,170 --> 06:07:43,240
lot of these people have talked

10569
06:07:43,240 --> 06:07:44,290
about how hard they work but I

10570
06:07:44,290 --> 06:07:46,700
think we work hard too and

10571
06:07:46,700 --> 06:07:47,700
things are different now. We

10572
06:07:47,700 --> 06:07:48,110
can't buy homes the way that we

10573
06:07:48,110 --> 06:07:50,100
used to and now they're having

10574
06:07:50,100 --> 06:07:50,290
children of their own and

10575
06:07:50,290 --> 06:07:51,290
they're stuck in the same homes

10576
06:07:51,290 --> 06:07:53,100
they grew up with. That's six

10577
06:07:53,100 --> 06:07:54,600
people one bathroom, three

10578
06:07:54,600 --> 06:07:56,600
bedrooms like that is just not

10579
06:07:56,600 --> 06:07:57,230
a hypothetical housing crisis.

10580
06:07:57,230 --> 06:07:59,170
it's happening right now and it

10581
06:07:59,170 --> 06:08:01,160
is untenable. And just because

10582
06:08:01,160 --> 06:08:02,170
some people don't get to

10583
06:08:02,170 --> 06:08:03,190
eat all the cake they want

10584
06:08:03,190 --> 06:08:04,180
doesn't mean that the rest

10585
06:08:04,180 --> 06:08:05,230
of us shouldn't be able to

10586
06:08:05,230 --> 06:08:07,280
eat at all. Please support

10587
06:08:07,280 --> 06:08:09,400
staff's recommendations and

10588
06:08:09,400 --> 06:08:10,270
give san jose the opportunity

10589
06:08:10,270 --> 06:08:12,180
to build a homes that residents

10590
06:08:12,180 --> 06:08:14,120
not just now but in the future

10591
06:08:14,120 --> 06:08:16,412
desperately need. Thank you.

10592
06:08:17,100 --> 06:08:19,401
thank you speaker. >> hello,

10593
06:08:20,200 --> 06:08:22,110
I'm lynn pesci from district

10594
06:08:22,110 --> 06:08:23,270
six and I'm here to urge the

10595
06:08:23,270 --> 06:08:25,210
council to reject the proposal

10596
06:08:25,210 --> 06:08:27,240
for up zoning citywide. Read

10597
06:08:27,240 --> 06:08:29,200
our current guidelines and

10598
06:08:29,200 --> 06:08:30,150
state laws already include

10599
06:08:30,150 --> 06:08:32,900
opportunities to build for the

10600
06:08:32,900 --> 06:08:33,210
missing middle but on a smaller

10601
06:08:33,210 --> 06:08:35,170
scale. And as we implement

10602
06:08:35,170 --> 06:08:37,210
these missing little guidelines

10603
06:08:37,210 --> 06:08:39,500
we need to evaluate their

10604
06:08:39,500 --> 06:08:41,190
impact on parking traffic, tree

10605
06:08:41,190 --> 06:08:43,190
canopy and the use of services

10606
06:08:43,190 --> 06:08:45,700
before we jump into more

10607
06:08:45,700 --> 06:08:47,700
dramatic changes. Even if the

10608
06:08:47,700 --> 06:08:48,150
proposed guidelines are put

10609
06:08:48,150 --> 06:08:49,100
into place, they're going to be

10610
06:08:49,100 --> 06:08:51,500
difficult to reverse and I

10611
06:08:51,500 --> 06:08:52,300
really feel strongly that

10612
06:08:52,300 --> 06:08:53,200
residents need to have the

10613
06:08:53,200 --> 06:08:55,170
opportunity to give input

10614
06:08:55,170 --> 06:08:56,230
regarding the developments that

10615
06:08:56,230 --> 06:08:58,900
will have significant effects

10616
06:08:58,900 --> 06:08:59,800
on their neighborhoods in the

10617
06:08:59,800 --> 06:09:01,408
future. Thank >> you. Thank

10618
06:09:02,300 --> 06:09:05,300
you. Your next speaker. Good

10619
06:09:07,160 --> 06:09:08,160
evening >> mayor and council

10620
06:09:08,160 --> 06:09:10,000
members. I'm marin sater,

10621
06:09:10,000 --> 06:09:11,120
present of willow glen

10622
06:09:11,120 --> 06:09:13,400
neighborhood association. We

10623
06:09:13,400 --> 06:09:14,190
are not against housing. We

10624
06:09:14,190 --> 06:09:16,300
support making san jose more

10625
06:09:16,300 --> 06:09:17,290
affordable for future residents

10626
06:09:17,290 --> 06:09:19,600
while respecting those who

10627
06:09:19,600 --> 06:09:21,200
already >> call san jose home.

10628
06:09:21,200 --> 06:09:22,190
because this proposal >> is

10629
06:09:22,190 --> 06:09:24,700
discretionary. We should have

10630
06:09:24,700 --> 06:09:25,210
data showing that this

10631
06:09:25,210 --> 06:09:27,110
additional density will improve

10632
06:09:27,110 --> 06:09:29,800
affordability and residents

10633
06:09:29,800 --> 06:09:30,170
should have a meaningful voice

10634
06:09:30,170 --> 06:09:31,260
in decisions affecting their

10635
06:09:31,260 --> 06:09:33,210
communities. California has

10636
06:09:33,210 --> 06:09:35,140
already enacted significant new

10637
06:09:35,140 --> 06:09:37,700
housing laws. Why not wait and

10638
06:09:37,700 --> 06:09:38,270
see their impact before going

10639
06:09:38,270 --> 06:09:41,000
further? We also need to

10640
06:09:41,000 --> 06:09:42,800
understand the impacts >> on

10641
06:09:42,800 --> 06:09:44,100
infrastructure parking,

10642
06:09:44,100 --> 06:09:45,190
livability >> and tree canopy

10643
06:09:45,190 --> 06:09:47,100
goals. I asked the council to

10644
06:09:47,100 --> 06:09:49,110
remove the proposed 8 to 32

10645
06:09:49,110 --> 06:09:50,150
dwelling units per acre

10646
06:09:50,150 --> 06:09:51,240
increase >> for residential

10647
06:09:51,240 --> 06:09:53,424
neighborhoods. Then please take

10648
06:09:54,260 --> 06:09:55,280
a thoughtful look >> before

10649
06:09:55,280 --> 06:09:57,600
making meaningful making

10650
06:09:57,600 --> 06:09:58,170
widespread changes that may

10651
06:09:58,170 --> 06:10:00,100
conflict with the city's own

10652
06:10:00,100 --> 06:10:01,280
transportation, public safety

10653
06:10:01,280 --> 06:10:03,160
and environmental >> goals.

10654
06:10:03,160 --> 06:10:05,250
thank you. Thank you. Next >>

10655
06:10:05,250 --> 06:10:07,425
speaker. Hello mayor and

10656
06:10:10,250 --> 06:10:12,210
council. I'm michael gordon,

10657
06:10:12,210 --> 06:10:14,300
the present of the santa clara

10658
06:10:14,300 --> 06:10:15,230
county association of realtors

10659
06:10:15,230 --> 06:10:18,300
and a district ten resident. I

10660
06:10:18,300 --> 06:10:19,260
think the public's concerns are

10661
06:10:19,260 --> 06:10:22,200
clear and I appreciate that the

10662
06:10:22,200 --> 06:10:23,250
balanced approach. The memo

10663
06:10:23,250 --> 06:10:25,210
from mayor mehan, vice mayor

10664
06:10:25,210 --> 06:10:27,190
foley and the council members

10665
06:10:27,190 --> 06:10:30,150
campos, cohen and casey as it

10666
06:10:30,150 --> 06:10:32,150
strikes the right balance. It

10667
06:10:32,150 --> 06:10:33,150
meets the state housing

10668
06:10:33,150 --> 06:10:35,500
mandates, avoids builders

10669
06:10:35,500 --> 06:10:37,500
remedy addresses parking

10670
06:10:37,140 --> 06:10:39,100
triggers, environmental review

10671
06:10:39,100 --> 06:10:40,700
above certain density

10672
06:10:40,700 --> 06:10:42,100
thresholds and allows light

10673
06:10:42,100 --> 06:10:43,230
commercial uses for walkable

10674
06:10:43,230 --> 06:10:45,230
neighborhoods. Please support

10675
06:10:45,250 --> 06:10:48,130
the memo and the candidates

10676
06:10:48,130 --> 06:10:51,613
ortiz and mulcahy memo. I think

10677
06:10:52,000 --> 06:10:53,110
the public is demanding real

10678
06:10:53,110 --> 06:10:55,130
transparency. They deserve more

10679
06:10:55,130 --> 06:10:57,130
outreach, accessible online

10680
06:10:57,160 --> 06:10:59,160
participation and stakeholder

10681
06:10:59,170 --> 06:11:01,190
engagement well ahead of major

10682
06:11:01,190 --> 06:11:03,200
decisions like this one. Show

10683
06:11:03,200 --> 06:11:05,800
the residents exactly what's

10684
06:11:05,800 --> 06:11:07,600
affected on the map. Publish an

10685
06:11:07,600 --> 06:11:09,100
interactive address searchable

10686
06:11:09,100 --> 06:11:11,260
map that shows exactly what. >>

10687
06:11:11,260 --> 06:11:14,170
thank you. That's your time.

10688
06:11:14,170 --> 06:11:17,170
alan. Go ahead, david. But

10689
06:11:17,240 --> 06:11:19,424
alan. Jamie >> waite, joanie

10690
06:11:20,280 --> 06:11:23,280
murphy, betsy tanner, pamela m.

10691
06:11:24,210 --> 06:11:27,210
come on down. >> mr. Mayor,

10692
06:11:28,300 --> 06:11:29,230
council members. I'm exhausted.

10693
06:11:29,230 --> 06:11:31,230
I'm sure you are too. I thought

10694
06:11:31,230 --> 06:11:33,800
I'd give you a quick summary

10695
06:11:33,800 --> 06:11:34,210
of the letter I sent you. I

10696
06:11:34,210 --> 06:11:35,160
thought I was going to have

10697
06:11:35,160 --> 06:11:37,260
30s. I urge you to approve

10698
06:11:37,260 --> 06:11:40,230
them. The mason etc. Memo and

10699
06:11:40,230 --> 06:11:42,150
certainly the ken dallas memo

10700
06:11:42,150 --> 06:11:44,100
which I'd rather fortuitous as

10701
06:11:44,100 --> 06:11:46,120
his name was first. I'd ask you

10702
06:11:46,120 --> 06:11:48,800
though to do one thing and

10703
06:11:48,800 --> 06:11:49,280
eight dwelling units per acre

10704
06:11:49,280 --> 06:11:52,110
to the environmental review. We

10705
06:11:52,110 --> 06:11:55,700
don't know if we don't consider

10706
06:11:55,700 --> 06:11:57,800
>> the current conditions while

10707
06:11:57,800 --> 06:11:59,600
we talk about up zoning we're

10708
06:11:59,600 --> 06:12:01,160
missing the boat. It's >> hard

10709
06:12:01,160 --> 06:12:03,140
to respond to mr. Burton's

10710
06:12:03,140 --> 06:12:05,600
telephone calls since many

10711
06:12:05,600 --> 06:12:06,120
of the things that we have

10712
06:12:06,120 --> 06:12:09,100
heard are different. I also

10713
06:12:09,100 --> 06:12:10,210
urge you to defer this citywide

10714
06:12:10,210 --> 06:12:12,500
rezoning matter. All you had to

10715
06:12:12,500 --> 06:12:13,100
do is hear the hundreds

10716
06:12:13,100 --> 06:12:15,110
of people today. It's not

10717
06:12:15,110 --> 06:12:18,000
necessary under sb 79 as we see

10718
06:12:18,000 --> 06:12:20,000
the situation and also direct

10719
06:12:20,000 --> 06:12:21,280
staff to study all fire risk

10720
06:12:21,280 --> 06:12:24,140
areas. And I got another one

10721
06:12:24,140 --> 06:12:26,400
but I don't have time. Thank

10722
06:12:26,400 --> 06:12:29,190
you very much. Thank you. Next

10723
06:12:29,190 --> 06:12:32,190
speaker. Good afternoon. I am

10724
06:12:37,250 --> 06:12:40,160
part of councilmember casey's

10725
06:12:40,160 --> 06:12:43,160
district and I appreciate that

10726
06:12:44,400 --> 06:12:45,800
I have a chance to tell >> you

10727
06:12:45,800 --> 06:12:47,100
that I am definitely opposed to

10728
06:12:47,100 --> 06:12:49,401
the missing middle >> project.

10729
06:12:50,180 --> 06:12:52,130
I think that that would destroy

10730
06:12:52,130 --> 06:12:55,130
the single family dwelling. Our

10731
06:12:55,140 --> 06:12:57,270
biggest asset my biggest asset

10732
06:12:57,270 --> 06:13:01,100
is my home. You're asking to

10733
06:13:01,100 --> 06:13:02,240
destroy a neighborhood in our

10734
06:13:02,240 --> 06:13:04,424
homes? Councilmember casey, I

10735
06:13:06,110 --> 06:13:07,100
>> actually have to say I

10736
06:13:07,100 --> 06:13:09,100
haven't seen your memo with the

10737
06:13:09,100 --> 06:13:10,220
others so I can't really

10738
06:13:10,220 --> 06:13:12,240
comment on it. But when you

10739
06:13:12,240 --> 06:13:14,300
were and you said you were

10740
06:13:14,300 --> 06:13:14,250
going to put a lot

10741
06:13:14,250 --> 06:13:16,200
of development downtown

10742
06:13:16,200 --> 06:13:17,250
san jose. I'm not sure if that

10743
06:13:17,250 --> 06:13:20,220
memo addressed that so I would

10744
06:13:20,220 --> 06:13:22,210
hope that you would put that in

10745
06:13:22,210 --> 06:13:25,210
you also downtown have the 20

10746
06:13:26,500 --> 06:13:29,500
2040 plan already in place. So

10747
06:13:29,210 --> 06:13:30,210
aren't we going to run with

10748
06:13:30,210 --> 06:13:33,900
that? >> thank you. Thank you.

10749
06:13:33,900 --> 06:13:36,200
next speaker I'm joyce. Last

10750
06:13:36,200 --> 06:13:39,240
name starts with an e. Go go

10751
06:13:39,240 --> 06:13:40,120
ahead and go up to the

10752
06:13:40,120 --> 06:13:42,412
microphone. It looks like

10753
06:13:43,270 --> 06:13:45,200
kevin golden winchester

10754
06:13:45,200 --> 06:13:47,420
corridor >> arts morris and

10755
06:13:48,130 --> 06:13:51,613
kelly irani. Come on down. >> I

10756
06:13:52,120 --> 06:13:54,290
urge you to push back to the

10757
06:13:54,290 --> 06:13:57,170
state and please represent our

10758
06:13:57,170 --> 06:13:59,130
interests. There is a lot

10759
06:13:59,130 --> 06:14:01,150
of properties here that aren't

10760
06:14:01,150 --> 06:14:04,100
even full. They might be a 20%

10761
06:14:04,100 --> 06:14:06,401
capacity and adjacent >> right

10762
06:14:07,600 --> 06:14:09,406
next to 280 and winchester.

10763
06:14:10,500 --> 06:14:12,000
there's a really big building

10764
06:14:12,000 --> 06:14:14,230
and I wonder if it's only 20%

10765
06:14:14,230 --> 06:14:16,423
filled and 80% vacant. Why

10766
06:14:17,190 --> 06:14:19,300
don't you take all the

10767
06:14:19,300 --> 06:14:22,300
buildings that exist and make

10768
06:14:22,210 --> 06:14:24,190
sure they're at full capacity

10769
06:14:24,190 --> 06:14:27,619
and make sure that at least 50%

10770
06:14:29,900 --> 06:14:32,609
of the units are lower? Lower

10771
06:14:33,170 --> 06:14:35,417
priced housing and concentrate

10772
06:14:36,190 --> 06:14:38,419
things near near where

10773
06:14:39,260 --> 06:14:41,260
transportation is. Every

10774
06:14:42,900 --> 06:14:44,100
apartment needs to have two

10775
06:14:44,100 --> 06:14:47,200
cars. I mean in my 30 year old

10776
06:14:47,200 --> 06:14:49,200
daughter is not going to get in

10777
06:14:49,200 --> 06:14:51,200
one of your bike lanes down

10778
06:14:51,200 --> 06:14:54,200
stevens creek. Thank you. That

10779
06:14:54,100 --> 06:14:56,110
your time? Harry neal come on

10780
06:14:56,110 --> 06:14:58,411
down, antonio. Deborah newcomb

10781
06:14:59,130 --> 06:15:01,210
. Thank you >> mayor and

10782
06:15:01,210 --> 06:15:02,240
council members for listening

10783
06:15:02,240 --> 06:15:03,280
to all of us. I know it's not

10784
06:15:03,280 --> 06:15:04,290
easy with all of us here

10785
06:15:04,290 --> 06:15:06,150
tonight but on behalf of the

10786
06:15:06,150 --> 06:15:08,190
vpi community association 82, I

10787
06:15:08,190 --> 06:15:09,280
urge you to reject this

10788
06:15:09,280 --> 06:15:11,110
recommendation and send it back

10789
06:15:11,110 --> 06:15:13,200
to the planning department.

10790
06:15:13,200 --> 06:15:14,800
council is being asked to make

10791
06:15:14,800 --> 06:15:15,290
significant land use changes

10792
06:15:15,290 --> 06:15:18,900
based in part on warnings about

10793
06:15:18,900 --> 06:15:20,900
decertification builders remedy

10794
06:15:20,120 --> 06:15:22,150
and state enforcement. Those

10795
06:15:22,150 --> 06:15:23,270
are serious consequences for

10796
06:15:23,270 --> 06:15:25,190
sure, but the connection to the

10797
06:15:25,190 --> 06:15:27,150
specific proposals need to be

10798
06:15:27,150 --> 06:15:29,170
demonstrated and not simply

10799
06:15:29,170 --> 06:15:31,160
asserted require staff to

10800
06:15:31,160 --> 06:15:33,230
clearly separate what state law

10801
06:15:33,230 --> 06:15:35,170
actually mandates from what

10802
06:15:35,170 --> 06:15:37,130
represents discretionary policy

10803
06:15:37,130 --> 06:15:40,000
choices and if rejecting these

10804
06:15:40,000 --> 06:15:42,170
density changes truly puts

10805
06:15:42,170 --> 06:15:43,210
san jose at risk

10806
06:15:43,210 --> 06:15:45,130
of decertification. Require

10807
06:15:45,130 --> 06:15:47,270
staff to provide the specific

10808
06:15:47,270 --> 06:15:49,120
legal basis and relevant

10809
06:15:49,120 --> 06:15:51,600
precedent along with a complete

10810
06:15:51,600 --> 06:15:52,240
analysis of the impacts on

10811
06:15:52,240 --> 06:15:54,240
infrastructure displacement,

10812
06:15:54,240 --> 06:15:56,800
affordable >> housing and

10813
06:15:56,800 --> 06:15:57,190
existing neighborhoods along

10814
06:15:57,190 --> 06:15:58,160
with meaningful >>

10815
06:15:58,160 --> 06:16:00,160
alternatives. Thank you. >>

10816
06:16:01,250 --> 06:16:04,625
next speaker also amy tran, tom

10817
06:16:05,000 --> 06:16:07,210
tran, jack lin and ruth

10818
06:16:07,210 --> 06:16:10,210
callahan. Come on down. >> hey

10819
06:16:12,800 --> 06:16:14,800
mayor. Councilmember michael.

10820
06:16:14,290 --> 06:16:16,270
first off, I'm our memories

10821
06:16:16,270 --> 06:16:18,280
from the neighborhood and I

10822
06:16:18,280 --> 06:16:21,900
foley support michael mulcahy's

10823
06:16:21,900 --> 06:16:23,900
recommendations. Why? Well,

10824
06:16:23,150 --> 06:16:24,240
come on. He's a genius, right?

10825
06:16:24,240 --> 06:16:28,170
we all know that. So san jose.

10826
06:16:28,170 --> 06:16:31,100
we're missing the middle,

10827
06:16:31,100 --> 06:16:32,700
right? We have single family.

10828
06:16:32,700 --> 06:16:33,700
we have tall buildings. The

10829
06:16:33,700 --> 06:16:34,280
worse the middle and winchester

10830
06:16:34,280 --> 06:16:37,400
corridor has an opportunity to

10831
06:16:37,400 --> 06:16:38,280
work with that. And we have

10832
06:16:38,280 --> 06:16:40,180
several buildings where if you

10833
06:16:40,180 --> 06:16:41,270
make it a mixed use

10834
06:16:41,270 --> 06:16:44,200
neighborhood we can build this

10835
06:16:44,200 --> 06:16:46,500
middle right and have plenty

10836
06:16:46,500 --> 06:16:47,290
of housing which is a win for

10837
06:16:47,290 --> 06:16:49,100
san jose. It's a win for the

10838
06:16:49,100 --> 06:16:50,200
cary neighborhood and it's a

10839
06:16:50,200 --> 06:16:52,300
win for california. So please

10840
06:16:52,300 --> 06:16:53,120
stick with his recommendation.

10841
06:16:53,120 --> 06:16:55,120
thank you. >> thank you. Next

10842
06:16:55,120 --> 06:16:58,120
speaker. Good evening. My name

10843
06:17:00,280 --> 06:17:02,000
is kelly aurora. I'm the

10844
06:17:02,000 --> 06:17:03,900
director of entitlements for

10845
06:17:03,900 --> 06:17:05,240
vici, which is a minority owned

10846
06:17:05,240 --> 06:17:07,100
company that is under

10847
06:17:07,100 --> 06:17:09,300
construction on two sites on

10848
06:17:09,300 --> 06:17:11,120
paige avenue in san jose and

10849
06:17:11,120 --> 06:17:12,150
has a couple more in the

10850
06:17:12,150 --> 06:17:14,270
building permit process. We'd

10851
06:17:14,270 --> 06:17:16,250
like to >> do more. We received

10852
06:17:16,250 --> 06:17:18,170
early denial over a year ago

10853
06:17:18,170 --> 06:17:20,417
at 826 north winchester. When

10854
06:17:21,400 --> 06:17:22,120
councilmember mccain the

10855
06:17:22,120 --> 06:17:24,600
balance of the council asked to

10856
06:17:24,600 --> 06:17:25,210
study more reasonable

10857
06:17:25,210 --> 06:17:27,290
densities, our staff spent a

10858
06:17:27,290 --> 06:17:30,160
year doing that with extensive

10859
06:17:30,160 --> 06:17:32,416
public outreach and concluded

10860
06:17:33,170 --> 06:17:35,140
that winchester corridor is

10861
06:17:35,140 --> 06:17:37,250
near transit high grossing

10862
06:17:37,250 --> 06:17:40,625
retail and their jobs are staff

10863
06:17:41,240 --> 06:17:43,110
studies and made a careful

10864
06:17:43,110 --> 06:17:45,260
logical recommendation that we

10865
06:17:45,260 --> 06:17:48,626
support. Still if >> you don't

10866
06:17:49,120 --> 06:17:50,100
do it here where are you going

10867
06:17:50,100 --> 06:17:52,280
to do it? Where are you going

10868
06:17:52,280 --> 06:17:55,800
to put the working people where

10869
06:17:55,800 --> 06:17:56,140
they can live, work, play and

10870
06:17:56,140 --> 06:17:58,120
stay? I think this is it. I

10871
06:17:58,120 --> 06:18:00,200
don't think they're evil that

10872
06:18:00,200 --> 06:18:01,100
they want to live in apartments

10873
06:18:01,100 --> 06:18:03,130
>> and it's that's your time.

10874
06:18:03,130 --> 06:18:06,130
thank you. Vests hermanas matt

10875
06:18:10,100 --> 06:18:13,110
, I can't read the last name.

10876
06:18:13,110 --> 06:18:14,290
it starts with an s and bob

10877
06:18:14,290 --> 06:18:16,429
valderrama. Come on >> down.

10878
06:18:17,210 --> 06:18:19,190
go >> ahead. Good evening,

10879
06:18:19,190 --> 06:18:21,500
mayor. Council members thank

10880
06:18:21,500 --> 06:18:22,120
you, staff for your time and

10881
06:18:22,120 --> 06:18:23,190
listening to us today. My name

10882
06:18:23,190 --> 06:18:25,160
is tom chen. I'm the present

10883
06:18:25,160 --> 06:18:26,220
of california small builders

10884
06:18:26,220 --> 06:18:28,130
association representing

10885
06:18:28,130 --> 06:18:29,250
homebuilders and contract

10886
06:18:29,250 --> 06:18:30,240
contractors all across

10887
06:18:30,240 --> 06:18:32,200
california. We support the

10888
06:18:32,200 --> 06:18:33,160
planning commission's

10889
06:18:33,160 --> 06:18:34,220
recommendation for a missing

10890
06:18:34,220 --> 06:18:36,230
middle housing. Please maintain

10891
06:18:36,230 --> 06:18:38,300
the allowable density of 32

10892
06:18:38,300 --> 06:18:40,220
units an acre citywide to allow

10893
06:18:40,220 --> 06:18:41,250
housing without adding new

10894
06:18:41,250 --> 06:18:43,120
parking requirements. This

10895
06:18:43,120 --> 06:18:44,130
could help us be our housing

10896
06:18:44,130 --> 06:18:45,170
needs by creating new starter

10897
06:18:45,170 --> 06:18:46,210
homes for first time

10898
06:18:46,210 --> 06:18:48,200
homebuyers. As you may know,

10899
06:18:48,200 --> 06:18:49,160
san jose has been ranked the

10900
06:18:49,160 --> 06:18:52,160
most expensive city to live so

10901
06:18:52,160 --> 06:18:53,120
san jose is actually making

10902
06:18:53,120 --> 06:18:54,230
great progress on creating new

10903
06:18:54,230 --> 06:18:56,500
pathways for homeownership with

10904
06:18:56,500 --> 06:18:58,100
the recent 80s sell as you may

10905
06:18:58,100 --> 06:18:59,900
have heard that sold to a

10906
06:18:59,900 --> 06:19:00,280
contractor. So that's our

10907
06:19:00,280 --> 06:19:02,260
working class community that

10908
06:19:02,260 --> 06:19:04,220
needs a house right here. They

10909
06:19:04,220 --> 06:19:05,270
love to work here. Why can't

10910
06:19:05,270 --> 06:19:07,130
they live here? This is finally

10911
06:19:07,130 --> 06:19:08,220
the time to create houses for

10912
06:19:08,220 --> 06:19:10,150
that. At the same time we need

10913
06:19:10,150 --> 06:19:13,150
a way to be scalable model and

10914
06:19:13,150 --> 06:19:14,230
then we need transparency is

10915
06:19:14,230 --> 06:19:15,230
important for homeowners we

10916
06:19:15,230 --> 06:19:17,280
respect the homeowners can as

10917
06:19:17,280 --> 06:19:19,210
san jose publish an interactive

10918
06:19:19,210 --> 06:19:21,170
map. >> thank you. That's your

10919
06:19:21,170 --> 06:19:24,170
time. Next speaker alex shaw.

10920
06:19:25,120 --> 06:19:27,600
come on down. Chris sava and

10921
06:19:27,600 --> 06:19:29,600
aurelia sanchez. >> evening,

10922
06:19:29,210 --> 06:19:31,100
mayor mahan and council

10923
06:19:31,100 --> 06:19:32,200
members. I'm solomon. I'm

10924
06:19:32,200 --> 06:19:34,400
actually a blossom valley

10925
06:19:34,400 --> 06:19:36,120
resident and working father. I

10926
06:19:36,120 --> 06:19:37,200
want to raise my family here

10927
06:19:37,200 --> 06:19:39,600
and buy a single family home

10928
06:19:39,600 --> 06:19:41,280
that I can call home. But for

10929
06:19:41,280 --> 06:19:43,130
families like mine that's

10930
06:19:43,130 --> 06:19:44,150
increasingly become a bit

10931
06:19:44,150 --> 06:19:46,110
harder to afford. That's why I

10932
06:19:46,110 --> 06:19:48,200
support missing mental housing

10933
06:19:48,200 --> 06:19:49,300
things like townhomes,

10934
06:19:49,300 --> 06:19:51,140
duplexes, starter homes. And

10935
06:19:51,140 --> 06:19:52,900
while I understand that the

10936
06:19:52,900 --> 06:19:53,250
change it's going to be

10937
06:19:53,250 --> 06:19:54,230
difficult for a lot of the

10938
06:19:54,230 --> 06:19:56,423
existing neighbors. I also

10939
06:19:57,000 --> 06:19:57,240
believe that we can work

10940
06:19:57,240 --> 06:19:59,130
together to add housing while

10941
06:19:59,130 --> 06:20:00,160
respecting the character of the

10942
06:20:00,160 --> 06:20:02,240
communities we want san jose to

10943
06:20:02,240 --> 06:20:04,140
be a place where anyone could

10944
06:20:04,140 --> 06:20:06,100
put down roots. And I hope that

10945
06:20:06,100 --> 06:20:07,110
we can find a path that works

10946
06:20:07,110 --> 06:20:08,180
for existing residents and all

10947
06:20:08,180 --> 06:20:10,140
families trying to find a home.

10948
06:20:10,140 --> 06:20:12,230
thank you. Thank you. Next

10949
06:20:12,230 --> 06:20:14,423
speaker. >> good evening mayor

10950
06:20:20,100 --> 06:20:22,150
and council members. My name is

10951
06:20:22,150 --> 06:20:26,110
beth humana's. I grew up in

10952
06:20:26,110 --> 06:20:27,220
santa clara county. My family

10953
06:20:27,220 --> 06:20:29,270
and friends are still here and

10954
06:20:29,270 --> 06:20:32,260
I recently moved back from

10955
06:20:32,260 --> 06:20:34,426
central valley. I originally

10956
06:20:35,000 --> 06:20:36,900
moved away because owning a

10957
06:20:36,900 --> 06:20:37,250
home in san jose was out

10958
06:20:37,250 --> 06:20:39,170
of reach. The commute was

10959
06:20:39,170 --> 06:20:41,400
difficult but that time moving

10960
06:20:41,400 --> 06:20:42,270
away felt like my only

10961
06:20:42,270 --> 06:20:45,140
realistic option. That's why I

10962
06:20:45,140 --> 06:20:47,110
support the general plan update

10963
06:20:47,110 --> 06:20:48,110
and we're missing middle

10964
06:20:48,110 --> 06:20:50,411
housing. Please give working

10965
06:20:51,240 --> 06:20:53,170
people and first time buyers a

10966
06:20:53,170 --> 06:20:56,170
path to homeownership. I hope

10967
06:20:56,260 --> 06:20:58,900
san jose becomes a place where

10968
06:20:58,900 --> 06:21:00,600
people who grew up and work

10969
06:21:00,600 --> 06:21:02,300
here can afford a home without

10970
06:21:02,300 --> 06:21:04,110
moving or having to live with

10971
06:21:04,110 --> 06:21:06,210
their family or sharing an

10972
06:21:06,210 --> 06:21:08,421
apartment. Thank you. >> thank

10973
06:21:10,800 --> 06:21:11,110
you. Next >> speaker I have

10974
06:21:11,110 --> 06:21:14,100
gary steve and louise luis

10975
06:21:14,100 --> 06:21:16,401
kiana >> garcia. After these

10976
06:21:18,300 --> 06:21:19,290
three names I'm going to call

10977
06:21:19,290 --> 06:21:22,900
the online speakers so I just

10978
06:21:22,900 --> 06:21:24,000
want the people who are on zoom

10979
06:21:24,000 --> 06:21:28,290
to sort of wake up. Go ahead.

10980
06:21:28,290 --> 06:21:30,130
>> hi, my name is bob

10981
06:21:30,130 --> 06:21:31,250
valderrama. Thank you honorable

10982
06:21:31,250 --> 06:21:33,230
mayor and council for having a

10983
06:21:33,230 --> 06:21:36,130
public hearing on this. I love

10984
06:21:36,130 --> 06:21:37,280
san jose. I grew up in district

10985
06:21:37,280 --> 06:21:40,100
gate and been a homeowner in

10986
06:21:40,100 --> 06:21:41,170
district nine for over 40

10987
06:21:41,170 --> 06:21:43,170
years. Single family

10988
06:21:43,250 --> 06:21:45,800
neighborhoods are not just part

10989
06:21:45,800 --> 06:21:46,130
of the charm, the culture and

10990
06:21:46,130 --> 06:21:48,210
the character of san jose. I

10991
06:21:48,210 --> 06:21:49,190
would argue that these

10992
06:21:49,190 --> 06:21:51,419
neighborhoods are san jose.

10993
06:21:52,160 --> 06:21:56,280
okay. I urge you to oppose that

10994
06:21:56,280 --> 06:21:59,280
this high density proposal and

10995
06:22:00,150 --> 06:22:01,250
just to remind you that most

10996
06:22:01,250 --> 06:22:03,100
of the people that voiced their

10997
06:22:03,100 --> 06:22:05,300
opinion today did not move to

10998
06:22:05,300 --> 06:22:08,300
austin or nashville or florida.

10999
06:22:08,100 --> 06:22:09,220
they stayed here their

11000
06:22:09,220 --> 06:22:11,220
faithful, their taxpayers

11001
06:22:12,260 --> 06:22:14,800
property owners and just want

11002
06:22:14,800 --> 06:22:16,100
to be one want to leave

11003
06:22:16,100 --> 06:22:17,210
san jose san jose. Vote no

11004
06:22:17,210 --> 06:22:19,280
thank you. >> thank you. Next

11005
06:22:19,280 --> 06:22:21,280
speaker. Good afternoon.

11006
06:22:26,200 --> 06:22:29,620
my name is chris auerbach and

11007
06:22:30,150 --> 06:22:33,100
there's a good public policy.

11008
06:22:33,100 --> 06:22:36,700
there's bad public policy and

11009
06:22:36,700 --> 06:22:37,230
then there's public policy gone

11010
06:22:37,230 --> 06:22:40,230
wild. This is public policy

11011
06:22:41,130 --> 06:22:43,400
gone wild. This should have

11012
06:22:43,400 --> 06:22:44,200
never been brought to the

11013
06:22:44,200 --> 06:22:46,260
people. The thing about filling

11014
06:22:46,260 --> 06:22:49,400
a middle is right now there's

11015
06:22:49,400 --> 06:22:51,404
something in the middle.

11016
06:22:52,200 --> 06:22:53,900
there's no hole. There's

11017
06:22:53,900 --> 06:22:55,160
something there. If there was a

11018
06:22:55,160 --> 06:22:57,170
hole, what you're talking about

11019
06:22:57,170 --> 06:22:58,210
today probably makes >> some

11020
06:22:58,210 --> 06:23:01,100
sense. But when there is no

11021
06:23:01,100 --> 06:23:03,170
hole in the middle. And then

11022
06:23:03,170 --> 06:23:05,160
the other expression that uses

11023
06:23:05,160 --> 06:23:08,160
up zoning these are cutesy

11024
06:23:08,250 --> 06:23:10,150
terms. But what we're really

11025
06:23:10,150 --> 06:23:13,130
doing is saying density and

11026
06:23:13,130 --> 06:23:16,100
what's density? That's where

11027
06:23:16,100 --> 06:23:19,100
you build probably up right?

11028
06:23:19,160 --> 06:23:20,290
and you have to have services

11029
06:23:20,290 --> 06:23:22,220
and stuff. But the real issue

11030
06:23:22,220 --> 06:23:24,000
here with housing and stuff

11031
06:23:24,000 --> 06:23:26,200
like that is the price

11032
06:23:26,200 --> 06:23:28,210
of housing. >> that's your

11033
06:23:28,210 --> 06:23:31,621
time. The next speaker we're

11034
06:23:40,110 --> 06:23:42,160
losing the >> housing battle in

11035
06:23:42,160 --> 06:23:45,270
san jose. We are way behind >>

11036
06:23:45,270 --> 06:23:46,270
the scenes of this housing

11037
06:23:46,270 --> 06:23:49,800
crisis were sown over 50 years

11038
06:23:49,800 --> 06:23:51,160
ago when san jose became a city

11039
06:23:51,160 --> 06:23:53,000
of mostly single family homes

11040
06:23:53,000 --> 06:23:55,120
reliant on driving. We >> went

11041
06:23:55,120 --> 06:23:57,220
too far in one direction. Now

11042
06:23:57,220 --> 06:23:59,190
we need a rebalancing >> so

11043
06:23:59,190 --> 06:24:00,290
everyone can afford to live

11044
06:24:00,290 --> 06:24:03,170
here. The only moral way we do

11045
06:24:03,170 --> 06:24:05,417
this is denser neighborhoods.

11046
06:24:06,000 --> 06:24:08,200
the only >> fair way to do it

11047
06:24:08,200 --> 06:24:10,700
is along racial and class lines

11048
06:24:10,700 --> 06:24:11,180
is multistory housing

11049
06:24:11,180 --> 06:24:14,100
throughout san jose. And the

11050
06:24:14,100 --> 06:24:15,160
best way to do that emphasize

11051
06:24:15,160 --> 06:24:16,290
walking, biking and public

11052
06:24:16,290 --> 06:24:18,290
transit without parking

11053
06:24:19,100 --> 06:24:21,180
mandates. I love neighborhood

11054
06:24:21,180 --> 06:24:22,190
commercial at the >> end

11055
06:24:22,190 --> 06:24:23,280
of blocks in the command to

11056
06:24:23,280 --> 06:24:26,140
videos memo. That's a wonderful

11057
06:24:26,140 --> 06:24:28,100
idea and I hope it's something

11058
06:24:28,100 --> 06:24:30,130
we can pursue. Thank you for

11059
06:24:30,130 --> 06:24:32,180
staff for your work on this

11060
06:24:32,180 --> 06:24:34,120
issue. Thanks council for your

11061
06:24:34,120 --> 06:24:36,250
consideration. Thank you. Next

11062
06:24:36,250 --> 06:24:39,250
speaker. >> by the wages where

11063
06:24:42,240 --> 06:24:45,624
is that high speed rail? You

11064
06:24:46,100 --> 06:24:48,000
know the it's got to be said.

11065
06:24:48,000 --> 06:24:49,800
the state legislature in

11066
06:24:49,800 --> 06:24:52,500
sacramento is out of control.

11067
06:24:52,500 --> 06:24:53,190
it's got to be said it's out

11068
06:24:53,190 --> 06:24:56,300
of control. So why have a

11069
06:24:56,300 --> 06:24:57,270
planning department? If we're

11070
06:24:57,270 --> 06:24:59,427
taking zoning orders from

11071
06:25:00,240 --> 06:25:02,424
sacramento. So this proposal >>

11072
06:25:04,150 --> 06:25:06,250
is crazy. Don't accept it.

11073
06:25:06,250 --> 06:25:09,100
don't approve it. Throw it out.

11074
06:25:09,100 --> 06:25:11,400
throw it out with the garbage,

11075
06:25:11,400 --> 06:25:12,280
not the recycling stuff. So it

11076
06:25:12,280 --> 06:25:14,900
comes back next year or the

11077
06:25:14,900 --> 06:25:17,609
year after. You all need >> to

11078
06:25:18,150 --> 06:25:19,270
go on garbage night and drive

11079
06:25:19,270 --> 06:25:21,600
through your neighborhoods and

11080
06:25:21,600 --> 06:25:23,500
other neighborhoods and see the

11081
06:25:23,500 --> 06:25:25,600
trouble people have even

11082
06:25:25,600 --> 06:25:27,200
fitting their garbage cans on

11083
06:25:27,200 --> 06:25:29,160
the street. A lot of people

11084
06:25:29,160 --> 06:25:31,800
can't even park in front

11085
06:25:31,800 --> 06:25:33,180
of their own houses especially

11086
06:25:33,180 --> 06:25:35,800
in a lot of the older areas.

11087
06:25:35,800 --> 06:25:36,160
think about that. That's right.

11088
06:25:36,160 --> 06:25:39,160
now that's not with 32 units on

11089
06:25:39,160 --> 06:25:41,900
this side, 32 units on that

11090
06:25:41,900 --> 06:25:44,800
side which is thank >> you that

11091
06:25:44,800 --> 06:25:47,800
your time. Next speaker after

11092
06:25:47,110 --> 06:25:48,260
this in-person speaker I'm

11093
06:25:48,260 --> 06:25:50,240
going to call amy online

11094
06:25:50,240 --> 06:25:53,140
followed by rene george, pam

11095
06:25:53,140 --> 06:25:55,180
and cathy. So amy, rene george,

11096
06:25:55,180 --> 06:25:57,130
pam and cathy, get ready.

11097
06:25:57,130 --> 06:25:59,140
go ahead. >> hi, my name is

11098
06:25:59,140 --> 06:26:01,160
lucien garcia and I grew up

11099
06:26:01,160 --> 06:26:02,290
here in san jose in the east

11100
06:26:02,290 --> 06:26:04,210
side. And as someone who

11101
06:26:04,210 --> 06:26:06,240
commutes three hours every day

11102
06:26:06,240 --> 06:26:08,240
to san francisco and still

11103
06:26:08,240 --> 06:26:10,200
decide to live here, it's

11104
06:26:10,200 --> 06:26:11,900
really disheartening to hear

11105
06:26:11,900 --> 06:26:13,240
how many homeowners who I would

11106
06:26:13,240 --> 06:26:15,110
one day would love to be don't

11107
06:26:15,110 --> 06:26:16,190
want more housing >> to be

11108
06:26:16,190 --> 06:26:18,120
built. I am commuting three

11109
06:26:18,120 --> 06:26:20,900
hours a day to save up for what

11110
06:26:20,900 --> 06:26:21,240
if there is no housing I will

11111
06:26:21,240 --> 06:26:23,170
not be able to live here. Once

11112
06:26:23,170 --> 06:26:25,900
I am able to afford a home. And

11113
06:26:25,900 --> 06:26:26,210
as someone who grew up here

11114
06:26:26,210 --> 06:26:27,270
it's very disheartening if

11115
06:26:27,270 --> 06:26:28,290
there is >> no more housing

11116
06:26:28,290 --> 06:26:30,429
built but responsibly along

11117
06:26:31,110 --> 06:26:32,270
rapid transit which is what I

11118
06:26:32,270 --> 06:26:35,240
do use a 66 bus and then the

11119
06:26:35,240 --> 06:26:37,210
bart for an hour and 20 minutes

11120
06:26:37,210 --> 06:26:40,150
one way. So please be

11121
06:26:40,150 --> 06:26:42,600
responsible about how housing

11122
06:26:42,600 --> 06:26:44,900
>> is built but it needs to be

11123
06:26:44,900 --> 06:26:45,260
built or else people that love

11124
06:26:45,260 --> 06:26:47,000
san jose will not get >> to

11125
06:26:47,000 --> 06:26:50,000
live here. Thank you amy. >>

11126
06:26:55,000 --> 06:26:56,300
good evening mayor and council

11127
06:26:56,300 --> 06:26:57,250
members. My name is amy cody

11128
06:26:57,250 --> 06:26:58,250
and I'm a resident of the

11129
06:26:58,250 --> 06:27:00,600
moreland west neighborhood in

11130
06:27:00,600 --> 06:27:02,120
district one. I support smart

11131
06:27:02,120 --> 06:27:04,110
responsible growth across our

11132
06:27:04,110 --> 06:27:06,700
city from our downtown to our

11133
06:27:06,700 --> 06:27:08,400
neighborhoods. That said, I'm

11134
06:27:08,400 --> 06:27:09,700
very concerned about the

11135
06:27:09,700 --> 06:27:11,100
proposed general plan update

11136
06:27:11,100 --> 06:27:13,140
and its unintended irreversible

11137
06:27:13,140 --> 06:27:15,300
consequences on our residential

11138
06:27:15,300 --> 06:27:17,300
neighborhoods. West san jose

11139
06:27:17,300 --> 06:27:18,290
and other areas lack the robust

11140
06:27:18,290 --> 06:27:20,100
transit infrastructure to

11141
06:27:20,100 --> 06:27:21,210
support zero parking

11142
06:27:21,210 --> 06:27:23,110
developments and our working

11143
06:27:23,110 --> 06:27:25,400
families and seniors depend on

11144
06:27:25,400 --> 06:27:27,600
their vehicles. A lack

11145
06:27:27,600 --> 06:27:29,400
of street space already forces

11146
06:27:29,400 --> 06:27:30,180
my neighbors in duplexes

11147
06:27:30,180 --> 06:27:32,110
triplexes and other small

11148
06:27:32,110 --> 06:27:34,130
multifamily properties to park

11149
06:27:34,130 --> 06:27:36,190
in their yards across sidewalks

11150
06:27:36,190 --> 06:27:38,110
or far away and to place

11151
06:27:38,110 --> 06:27:40,900
garbage and recycling bins in

11152
06:27:40,900 --> 06:27:41,290
bike lanes creating safety

11153
06:27:41,290 --> 06:27:43,240
hazards. Please support the

11154
06:27:43,240 --> 06:27:45,230
mayor's memo. At the least we

11155
06:27:45,230 --> 06:27:46,280
need onsite parking

11156
06:27:46,280 --> 06:27:48,428
requirements where possible and

11157
06:27:49,200 --> 06:27:50,110
to ensure that total unit

11158
06:27:50,110 --> 06:27:52,120
counts include ada use. And

11159
06:27:52,120 --> 06:27:53,270
finally I agree with previous

11160
06:27:53,270 --> 06:27:56,160
speakers that these major land

11161
06:27:56,160 --> 06:27:58,110
use changes require more public

11162
06:27:58,110 --> 06:28:00,110
outreach. >> renee. >> the

11163
06:28:04,700 --> 06:28:05,140
missing middle proposal gives

11164
06:28:05,140 --> 06:28:06,140
the middle finger to single

11165
06:28:06,140 --> 06:28:07,240
family homeowners. Save our

11166
06:28:07,240 --> 06:28:09,180
residential single family homes

11167
06:28:09,180 --> 06:28:10,190
and residential neighborhoods

11168
06:28:10,190 --> 06:28:12,900
and vote no on this proposal.

11169
06:28:12,900 --> 06:28:13,130
this plan threatens single

11170
06:28:13,130 --> 06:28:14,250
family homes because developers

11171
06:28:14,250 --> 06:28:16,180
will buy and outbid potential

11172
06:28:16,180 --> 06:28:18,190
homebuyers only to convert them

11173
06:28:18,190 --> 06:28:19,280
to single family only to

11174
06:28:19,280 --> 06:28:21,280
convert them to the most

11175
06:28:21,280 --> 06:28:23,220
allowable number of units on

11176
06:28:23,220 --> 06:28:25,150
that parcel. The planning

11177
06:28:25,150 --> 06:28:26,110
commission should be working

11178
06:28:26,110 --> 06:28:27,150
for city residents and not

11179
06:28:27,150 --> 06:28:29,150
developers. If councilmembers

11180
06:28:29,160 --> 06:28:30,900
have received political

11181
06:28:30,900 --> 06:28:31,200
donations from developers they

11182
06:28:31,200 --> 06:28:32,180
should let it be known before

11183
06:28:32,180 --> 06:28:34,418
voting today. If councilmembers

11184
06:28:35,200 --> 06:28:36,150
actually support this I'll take

11185
06:28:36,150 --> 06:28:37,140
you on the ride along and show

11186
06:28:37,140 --> 06:28:39,700
you what the future holds. I'll

11187
06:28:39,700 --> 06:28:41,300
show you traffic cones, trash

11188
06:28:41,300 --> 06:28:42,250
cans and furniture that people

11189
06:28:42,250 --> 06:28:44,800
use daily to save their parking

11190
06:28:44,800 --> 06:28:46,120
spots. It occurs in san jose.

11191
06:28:46,120 --> 06:28:47,110
and this is going to start

11192
06:28:47,110 --> 06:28:48,180
occurring everywhere else. If

11193
06:28:48,180 --> 06:28:51,180
you vote yes, george followed

11194
06:28:53,140 --> 06:28:57,214
by pam george. If you're on

11195
06:29:02,130 --> 06:29:03,190
your phone it's star six to

11196
06:29:03,190 --> 06:29:06,619
unmute. Okay moving on to pam

11197
06:29:11,400 --> 06:29:13,404
followed by kathy. >> hello.

11198
06:29:20,250 --> 06:29:22,260
can you hear me now? Yes. Yes.

11199
06:29:22,260 --> 06:29:24,140
I am urging you to vote no

11200
06:29:24,140 --> 06:29:25,150
along with almost all of the

11201
06:29:25,150 --> 06:29:26,280
comments here today as well as

11202
06:29:26,280 --> 06:29:28,600
the 12 packets of comments

11203
06:29:28,600 --> 06:29:30,400
online. What is being proposed

11204
06:29:30,400 --> 06:29:32,150
will fundamentally change the

11205
06:29:32,150 --> 06:29:34,100
neighborhoods of san jose and

11206
06:29:34,100 --> 06:29:35,140
there is only enriched

11207
06:29:35,140 --> 06:29:36,120
developers while just

11208
06:29:36,120 --> 06:29:37,220
increasing the overall quality

11209
06:29:37,220 --> 06:29:40,000
of life. I support responsible

11210
06:29:40,000 --> 06:29:41,250
housing development in san jose

11211
06:29:41,250 --> 06:29:43,425
but san jose established

11212
06:29:45,600 --> 06:29:46,170
neighborhoods are an important

11213
06:29:46,170 --> 06:29:48,100
part of that and I have lived

11214
06:29:48,100 --> 06:29:49,290
here for over 40 years and as a

11215
06:29:49,290 --> 06:29:51,210
d9 resident who purchased a

11216
06:29:51,210 --> 06:29:52,220
home in a single family

11217
06:29:52,220 --> 06:29:54,300
neighborhood years ago to raise

11218
06:29:54,300 --> 06:29:55,190
my children, I did so with the

11219
06:29:55,190 --> 06:29:56,190
expectation about the

11220
06:29:56,190 --> 06:29:58,290
surrounding land use framework.

11221
06:29:58,290 --> 06:30:00,600
I'm particularly concerned

11222
06:30:00,600 --> 06:30:01,120
about policies that would allow

11223
06:30:01,120 --> 06:30:02,220
greater density on individual

11224
06:30:02,220 --> 06:30:03,270
lots throughout single family

11225
06:30:03,270 --> 06:30:05,210
neighbors without adequately

11226
06:30:05,210 --> 06:30:06,290
considering the cumulative

11227
06:30:06,290 --> 06:30:07,280
impact on neighborhood

11228
06:30:07,280 --> 06:30:09,150
character traffic parking

11229
06:30:09,150 --> 06:30:11,150
infrastructure, privacy trees

11230
06:30:11,170 --> 06:30:12,290
and especially the scale

11231
06:30:12,290 --> 06:30:14,600
of possible buildings in

11232
06:30:14,600 --> 06:30:16,000
relation to existing homes.

11233
06:30:16,000 --> 06:30:17,000
there's a big difference

11234
06:30:17,000 --> 06:30:18,210
between allowing new forms

11235
06:30:18,210 --> 06:30:19,260
of homes and changing the

11236
06:30:19,260 --> 06:30:21,000
fundamental zoning

11237
06:30:21,000 --> 06:30:23,000
expectations. Kathy >> followed

11238
06:30:24,180 --> 06:30:27,618
by robert reese. Kathy at star

11239
06:30:33,000 --> 06:30:34,700
six on mute if you're on your

11240
06:30:34,700 --> 06:30:37,700
phone. I oppose this proposal.

11241
06:30:39,000 --> 06:30:40,160
it would affect one want

11242
06:30:40,160 --> 06:30:42,170
privacy would be impacted crime

11243
06:30:42,170 --> 06:30:45,190
will increase the area will be

11244
06:30:45,190 --> 06:30:47,140
noise zero that wants peace

11245
06:30:47,140 --> 06:30:49,100
of mind and it will deteriorate

11246
06:30:49,100 --> 06:30:51,500
the neighborhood. I agree that

11247
06:30:51,500 --> 06:30:53,150
san jose needs more housing but

11248
06:30:53,150 --> 06:30:55,415
please consider using empty

11249
06:30:56,130 --> 06:30:58,240
tech or commercial buildings

11250
06:30:58,240 --> 06:31:00,220
like whatsapp and cisco's doing

11251
06:31:00,220 --> 06:31:02,422
for apartments. Okay robert

11252
06:31:07,500 --> 06:31:09,405
followed by michael wing.

11253
06:31:14,260 --> 06:31:16,000
hello, my name is >> robert

11254
06:31:16,000 --> 06:31:17,180
reese. I live in evergreen. I

11255
06:31:17,180 --> 06:31:19,150
support the memo by council

11256
06:31:19,150 --> 06:31:21,220
members candela smoke and or

11257
06:31:21,220 --> 06:31:23,170
keys. I'd like to remind the

11258
06:31:23,170 --> 06:31:25,900
council that when you embarked

11259
06:31:25,900 --> 06:31:27,900
on the update to the general

11260
06:31:27,900 --> 06:31:29,170
plan a year and a half ago you

11261
06:31:29,170 --> 06:31:31,200
explicitly along with staff

11262
06:31:31,200 --> 06:31:33,200
said that the limitations would

11263
06:31:33,200 --> 06:31:35,100
include excluding the high vmt

11264
06:31:35,100 --> 06:31:38,000
areas. So it's sort of odd now

11265
06:31:38,000 --> 06:31:39,150
a year and a half later to find

11266
06:31:39,150 --> 06:31:41,200
out that there's a problem with

11267
06:31:41,200 --> 06:31:43,200
excluding the vmt areas

11268
06:31:43,200 --> 06:31:45,500
evergreen hazardous portion

11269
06:31:45,500 --> 06:31:48,000
amount of pd zone lands and

11270
06:31:48,000 --> 06:31:49,270
area plants like the evergreen

11271
06:31:49,270 --> 06:31:51,240
village square. So essentially

11272
06:31:51,240 --> 06:31:53,000
what we're talking about doing

11273
06:31:53,000 --> 06:31:55,500
is re subdividing existing

11274
06:31:55,500 --> 06:31:56,270
pods. My particular

11275
06:31:56,270 --> 06:31:59,140
circumstances I live in a

11276
06:31:59,140 --> 06:32:00,170
neighborhood with high fire

11277
06:32:00,170 --> 06:32:01,240
risk skinny streets no

11278
06:32:01,240 --> 06:32:03,800
sidewalks, limited ingress and

11279
06:32:03,800 --> 06:32:05,800
egress. I'm already on a small

11280
06:32:05,800 --> 06:32:08,900
lot. I also find it strange

11281
06:32:08,900 --> 06:32:10,150
that the oecd would be saying

11282
06:32:10,150 --> 06:32:12,300
that the 16 unit breakers is

11283
06:32:12,300 --> 06:32:12,270
inadequate when they're

11284
06:32:12,270 --> 06:32:15,110
allowing the west side cities

11285
06:32:15,110 --> 06:32:18,300
to not. >> thank you michael

11286
06:32:18,300 --> 06:32:20,403
wang followed by pierluigi.

11287
06:32:22,260 --> 06:32:24,200
hello >> my name's michael

11288
06:32:24,200 --> 06:32:26,402
wang. News flash. Our

11289
06:32:27,170 --> 06:32:28,250
neighborhoods are already being

11290
06:32:28,250 --> 06:32:31,250
destroyed and now by housing

11291
06:32:32,600 --> 06:32:34,150
prices are rising prices are

11292
06:32:34,150 --> 06:32:36,100
also the product of years

11293
06:32:36,100 --> 06:32:38,110
of careful planning. The phrase

11294
06:32:38,110 --> 06:32:40,400
the purpose of a system is what

11295
06:32:40,400 --> 06:32:42,900
it does comes to mind. As a

11296
06:32:42,900 --> 06:32:43,260
recent college graduate I still

11297
06:32:43,260 --> 06:32:45,190
live with my parents. Our

11298
06:32:45,190 --> 06:32:47,120
schools are closing now.

11299
06:32:47,120 --> 06:32:48,270
housing costs are through the

11300
06:32:48,270 --> 06:32:50,230
roof. This is sound like a

11301
06:32:50,230 --> 06:32:53,000
system we want to keep or when

11302
06:32:53,000 --> 06:32:56,700
we want to change. To everyone

11303
06:32:56,700 --> 06:32:57,280
saying this >> won't activate

11304
06:32:57,280 --> 06:32:59,170
builders already the amount

11305
06:32:59,170 --> 06:33:01,280
of units built by the city are

11306
06:33:01,280 --> 06:33:03,000
assessed in way through the

11307
06:33:03,000 --> 06:33:04,250
housing >> cycle. This will

11308
06:33:04,250 --> 06:33:07,625
help make up enough buffer to

11309
06:33:08,160 --> 06:33:09,160
make sure >> that we don't

11310
06:33:09,160 --> 06:33:11,416
activate it. Thank you. >>

11311
06:33:13,120 --> 06:33:15,200
thank you pierluigi. Followed

11312
06:33:15,200 --> 06:33:18,200
by blair. Npr recently reported

11313
06:33:21,260 --> 06:33:23,230
no city >> is making the

11314
06:33:23,230 --> 06:33:25,500
housing numbers in the state

11315
06:33:25,500 --> 06:33:27,200
of california albeit >> for a

11316
06:33:27,200 --> 06:33:29,150
few small rural areas. Next

11317
06:33:29,150 --> 06:33:30,230
year california will have a new

11318
06:33:30,230 --> 06:33:31,240
governor not running for

11319
06:33:31,240 --> 06:33:34,120
present. And a new cd cd.

11320
06:33:34,120 --> 06:33:37,200
director h.c. The numbers are

11321
06:33:37,200 --> 06:33:39,200
ridiculous and unattainable.

11322
06:33:39,700 --> 06:33:40,210
the state auditor's report

11323
06:33:40,210 --> 06:33:41,290
of cd showed a lack of review

11324
06:33:41,290 --> 06:33:43,100
matrices and sloppy data

11325
06:33:43,100 --> 06:33:45,100
processes regarding suggestive

11326
06:33:45,160 --> 06:33:47,600
versus mandatory language in

11327
06:33:47,600 --> 06:33:49,190
their findings. A discretionary

11328
06:33:49,190 --> 06:33:51,600
decision tonight regarding

11329
06:33:51,600 --> 06:33:52,270
single family neighborhoods

11330
06:33:52,270 --> 06:33:54,600
would lose the trust of san

11331
06:33:54,600 --> 06:33:56,700
jose residents. Please drop

11332
06:33:56,700 --> 06:33:57,900
this and stay with the current

11333
06:33:57,900 --> 06:33:58,190
general plan that already

11334
06:33:58,190 --> 06:34:00,000
accommodates hundreds

11335
06:34:00,000 --> 06:34:01,140
of thousands increase in

11336
06:34:01,140 --> 06:34:03,110
population and allows the

11337
06:34:03,110 --> 06:34:04,230
countless new state laws to

11338
06:34:04,230 --> 06:34:06,100
take their course which are

11339
06:34:06,100 --> 06:34:08,200
excessive and whose impact will

11340
06:34:08,200 --> 06:34:09,220
be massive. Thank you to all

11341
06:34:09,220 --> 06:34:10,230
the sounds of residents who

11342
06:34:10,230 --> 06:34:11,190
came to their first city

11343
06:34:11,190 --> 06:34:12,170
council meeting tonight.

11344
06:34:12,170 --> 06:34:14,700
speaking without lobbyists

11345
06:34:14,700 --> 06:34:15,110
public hearings or a best

11346
06:34:15,110 --> 06:34:17,900
practice in the usa. Don't

11347
06:34:17,900 --> 06:34:18,260
experiment. Instead put it on

11348
06:34:18,260 --> 06:34:20,426
the ballot. >> thank you,

11349
06:34:21,160 --> 06:34:24,160
blair. Followed by marie glee.

11350
06:34:26,300 --> 06:34:28,600
hi, I'm blair beekman. Living

11351
06:34:28,600 --> 06:34:29,200
in san diego, the past four

11352
06:34:29,200 --> 06:34:31,270
years they've done some really

11353
06:34:31,270 --> 06:34:34,100
great work with >> past pap is

11354
06:34:34,100 --> 06:34:36,100
finding homes for low income

11355
06:34:36,100 --> 06:34:37,250
people. It's been a real

11356
06:34:37,250 --> 06:34:39,130
success story that I know path

11357
06:34:39,130 --> 06:34:42,160
works in san jose that I hope

11358
06:34:42,160 --> 06:34:43,240
we can be talking about how to

11359
06:34:43,240 --> 06:34:45,240
be housing low income people.

11360
06:34:45,240 --> 06:34:47,100
I've been talking for years

11361
06:34:47,100 --> 06:34:49,160
about mixed income ideas that

11362
06:34:49,160 --> 06:34:51,120
don't necessarily have to work

11363
06:34:51,120 --> 06:34:53,170
with >> you know, multifamily

11364
06:34:53,170 --> 06:34:55,417
housing and missing middle

11365
06:34:57,300 --> 06:34:58,270
things. It can work for single

11366
06:34:58,270 --> 06:35:00,150
family homes as well in

11367
06:35:00,150 --> 06:35:02,150
neighborhoods >> sharing

11368
06:35:02,270 --> 06:35:04,190
community wealth and income in

11369
06:35:04,190 --> 06:35:05,260
neighborhoods I think is an

11370
06:35:05,260 --> 06:35:07,200
important goal that we have to

11371
06:35:07,200 --> 06:35:08,160
be better learning. And that

11372
06:35:08,160 --> 06:35:09,160
was mentioned by one of the

11373
06:35:09,160 --> 06:35:10,260
first public speakers today.

11374
06:35:10,260 --> 06:35:13,120
thank you for that. Good luck

11375
06:35:13,120 --> 06:35:15,190
in addressing such issues. And

11376
06:35:15,190 --> 06:35:16,230
good luck in working on tech

11377
06:35:16,230 --> 06:35:18,200
accountability for our future

11378
06:35:18,200 --> 06:35:19,260
neighborhood public safety as

11379
06:35:19,260 --> 06:35:22,150
well. Thank you. >> thank you,

11380
06:35:22,150 --> 06:35:25,150
maria. Glee followed by roland.

11381
06:35:26,800 --> 06:35:30,208
>> hi, my name is mira and I

11382
06:35:31,000 --> 06:35:32,190
just recently bought a home in

11383
06:35:32,190 --> 06:35:34,400
district three and prior to

11384
06:35:34,400 --> 06:35:35,400
this had been renting and

11385
06:35:35,400 --> 06:35:37,230
willow glen. This was my first

11386
06:35:37,230 --> 06:35:39,240
home purchase and >> it cost

11387
06:35:39,240 --> 06:35:41,180
me an arm and a leg but was

11388
06:35:41,180 --> 06:35:43,160
worth it because I love this

11389
06:35:43,160 --> 06:35:45,190
city and when I actually save

11390
06:35:45,190 --> 06:35:47,700
up enough I may even be able to

11391
06:35:47,700 --> 06:35:49,210
start a family here. Please do

11392
06:35:49,210 --> 06:35:50,270
not >> sacrifice city

11393
06:35:50,270 --> 06:35:52,250
affordability and the future

11394
06:35:52,250 --> 06:35:56,400
of the youth for parking. I do

11395
06:35:56,400 --> 06:35:57,110
not want it to be this hard >>

11396
06:35:57,110 --> 06:35:59,100
to afford living in san jose. I

11397
06:35:59,100 --> 06:36:00,170
worry about the affordability

11398
06:36:00,170 --> 06:36:01,240
of the city for current and

11399
06:36:01,240 --> 06:36:03,270
future generations. The best

11400
06:36:03,270 --> 06:36:05,300
way to reduce the costs of rent

11401
06:36:05,300 --> 06:36:06,400
and living is building more

11402
06:36:06,400 --> 06:36:07,400
housing stock and I would

11403
06:36:07,400 --> 06:36:08,800
support this even if it would

11404
06:36:08,800 --> 06:36:10,200
mean developing a high rise

11405
06:36:10,200 --> 06:36:12,120
right next to me. I want

11406
06:36:12,120 --> 06:36:13,280
my family to live in a vibrant

11407
06:36:13,280 --> 06:36:15,290
community of residents both old

11408
06:36:15,290 --> 06:36:18,180
and new that can afford to live

11409
06:36:18,180 --> 06:36:21,150
in san jose. Please vote yes.

11410
06:36:21,150 --> 06:36:24,300
thank you. Thank you, roland

11411
06:36:24,300 --> 06:36:27,300
followed by dana murphy. >> and

11412
06:36:29,200 --> 06:36:30,270
good evening. My name is roland

11413
06:36:30,270 --> 06:36:33,110
o'brien. My family and I have

11414
06:36:33,110 --> 06:36:34,240
lived near the santa teresa

11415
06:36:34,240 --> 06:36:36,120
library station for over 40

11416
06:36:36,120 --> 06:36:39,900
years. Please support the view

11417
06:36:39,900 --> 06:36:41,900
request to rezone these 32

11418
06:36:41,900 --> 06:36:43,400
acres back to the original

11419
06:36:43,400 --> 06:36:45,700
mixed use housing zoning which

11420
06:36:45,700 --> 06:36:46,260
has moved to the other side

11421
06:36:46,260 --> 06:36:49,180
of the for you of highway 87 to

11422
06:36:49,180 --> 06:36:51,900
increase the value of blue

11423
06:36:51,900 --> 06:36:53,290
wolves. I stop also by $100

11424
06:36:53,290 --> 06:36:56,170
million to finance those great

11425
06:36:56,170 --> 06:36:59,100
stadia near the airport. Next I

11426
06:36:59,100 --> 06:37:00,240
am strongly opposed to the

11427
06:37:00,240 --> 06:37:02,290
demolition of two schools and

11428
06:37:02,290 --> 06:37:04,250
one church. The other view

11429
06:37:04,250 --> 06:37:06,130
light rail to make room for

11430
06:37:06,130 --> 06:37:08,200
affordable housing. The soon to

11431
06:37:08,200 --> 06:37:11,230
be 79. And finally last but not

11432
06:37:11,230 --> 06:37:13,280
least I hope you value us all

11433
06:37:13,280 --> 06:37:15,280
for 80,000. I repeat 80,000

11434
06:37:17,100 --> 06:37:19,500
homes 30 years ago. Please

11435
06:37:19,500 --> 06:37:20,240
consider rezoning sections

11436
06:37:20,240 --> 06:37:22,250
of coyote valley for mixed use

11437
06:37:22,250 --> 06:37:25,250
open space. Thank you >> dana

11438
06:37:27,120 --> 06:37:30,120
followed by dan cortez. >> hi,

11439
06:37:31,900 --> 06:37:32,200
my name is dana. I live in

11440
06:37:32,200 --> 06:37:34,600
district three and recently

11441
06:37:34,600 --> 06:37:35,210
bought my first home in bonita

11442
06:37:35,210 --> 06:37:37,270
park. I want to live in a city

11443
06:37:37,270 --> 06:37:39,210
that is vibrant and affordable

11444
06:37:39,210 --> 06:37:41,500
and that comes from plans like

11445
06:37:41,500 --> 06:37:43,500
approving to increase density.

11446
06:37:43,500 --> 06:37:44,110
please build next to me. Please

11447
06:37:44,110 --> 06:37:46,100
build around me please build up

11448
06:37:46,100 --> 06:37:49,220
around the city it cost me >>

11449
06:37:49,220 --> 06:37:51,700
about everything to afford a

11450
06:37:51,700 --> 06:37:53,150
home here >> and but I love

11451
06:37:53,150 --> 06:37:56,615
living in san jose. Please vote

11452
06:37:57,200 --> 06:37:58,800
yes on the missing middle

11453
06:37:58,800 --> 06:37:59,230
housing plan to raise the

11454
06:37:59,230 --> 06:38:01,210
minimum to at least 32 dwelling

11455
06:38:01,210 --> 06:38:03,400
units per acre. Thank you very

11456
06:38:03,400 --> 06:38:05,280
much. Thank you dan followed by

11457
06:38:05,280 --> 06:38:08,280
delma. Good evening. Born and

11458
06:38:11,500 --> 06:38:12,210
raised here in san jose. I'm a

11459
06:38:12,210 --> 06:38:15,500
47 year resident of p6. We

11460
06:38:15,500 --> 06:38:16,240
raised a good family here,

11461
06:38:16,240 --> 06:38:18,200
bought a nice home here. I am

11462
06:38:18,200 --> 06:38:20,000
here this evening to express

11463
06:38:20,000 --> 06:38:21,100
my strong opposition to this

11464
06:38:21,100 --> 06:38:23,600
high density proposal in our

11465
06:38:23,600 --> 06:38:24,180
neighborhoods. While I

11466
06:38:24,180 --> 06:38:25,210
understand the need for

11467
06:38:25,210 --> 06:38:27,140
affordable housing in our city,

11468
06:38:27,140 --> 06:38:28,210
there is no such thing as

11469
06:38:28,210 --> 06:38:29,280
affordable housing in silicon

11470
06:38:29,280 --> 06:38:32,190
valley. It is a misnomer. I

11471
06:38:32,190 --> 06:38:33,210
believe that these projects

11472
06:38:33,210 --> 06:38:35,200
would have a detrimental impact

11473
06:38:35,200 --> 06:38:37,900
on our community. This is not

11474
06:38:37,900 --> 06:38:38,800
what I envisioned when I

11475
06:38:38,800 --> 06:38:40,120
purchased our homes here.

11476
06:38:40,120 --> 06:38:41,290
furthermore, the type

11477
06:38:41,290 --> 06:38:44,000
of housing development that's

11478
06:38:44,000 --> 06:38:45,120
being proposed is simply not

11479
06:38:45,120 --> 06:38:48,120
the neighborhood's. Please. We

11480
06:38:48,280 --> 06:38:50,150
think this. I urge you to

11481
06:38:50,150 --> 06:38:51,250
reconsider this proposal. I

11482
06:38:51,250 --> 06:38:52,210
believe that this proposal is

11483
06:38:52,210 --> 06:38:53,270
simply not the right fit for

11484
06:38:53,270 --> 06:38:55,500
our neighborhood. Your

11485
06:38:55,500 --> 06:38:56,290
neighborhood? This is not a

11486
06:38:56,290 --> 06:38:58,250
well thought out plan. This is

11487
06:38:58,250 --> 06:39:00,290
a blurred vision. I implore you

11488
06:39:00,290 --> 06:39:03,629
to vote no. Thank you. >> thank

11489
06:39:04,210 --> 06:39:07,210
you. Delma followed by mansour.

11490
06:39:08,230 --> 06:39:11,230
>> hi. Good evening. This is

11491
06:39:12,280 --> 06:39:15,628
thelma. I. I lived in district

11492
06:39:16,200 --> 06:39:18,150
five for 27 years. I support

11493
06:39:18,150 --> 06:39:20,900
allowing muslim missing middle

11494
06:39:20,900 --> 06:39:22,409
class. My goodness. Missing

11495
06:39:23,100 --> 06:39:24,180
middle housing in all

11496
06:39:24,180 --> 06:39:26,180
residential neighborhoods with

11497
06:39:26,230 --> 06:39:29,000
densities of up to 32 units per

11498
06:39:29,000 --> 06:39:31,260
acre. We urgently need more

11499
06:39:31,260 --> 06:39:34,230
affordable homes. We should we

11500
06:39:34,230 --> 06:39:36,600
should make better use of the

11501
06:39:36,600 --> 06:39:38,170
infrastructure we already have.

11502
06:39:38,170 --> 06:39:40,300
I also support making it easier

11503
06:39:40,300 --> 06:39:41,270
for school districts and faith

11504
06:39:41,270 --> 06:39:43,427
communities to build affordable

11505
06:39:44,800 --> 06:39:46,240
housing on our land and oppose

11506
06:39:46,240 --> 06:39:48,424
adding new parking requirements

11507
06:39:49,130 --> 06:39:50,260
that make housing harder to

11508
06:39:50,260 --> 06:39:53,000
build. At the same time, I also

11509
06:39:53,000 --> 06:39:53,270
urge the council to take

11510
06:39:53,270 --> 06:39:55,270
careful approach to the growth

11511
06:39:55,270 --> 06:39:57,120
of aa data centers and consider

11512
06:39:57,120 --> 06:39:59,900
their impacts on water,

11513
06:39:59,900 --> 06:40:00,280
electricity, infrastructure,

11514
06:40:00,280 --> 06:40:02,170
air quality, greenhouse gas

11515
06:40:02,170 --> 06:40:04,230
emissions. We use strong

11516
06:40:04,230 --> 06:40:06,200
enforceable standards and

11517
06:40:06,200 --> 06:40:08,200
meaningful community input

11518
06:40:09,200 --> 06:40:10,120
before allowing this growth to

11519
06:40:10,120 --> 06:40:12,412
continue unchecked. Thank you

11520
06:40:14,400 --> 06:40:16,404
mansoor followed by bedwell.

11521
06:40:20,250 --> 06:40:22,425
mansoor nasser. >> yeah. Higher

11522
06:40:24,800 --> 06:40:27,600
density doesn't result in

11523
06:40:27,600 --> 06:40:29,190
reduced prices. Look at london,

11524
06:40:29,190 --> 06:40:31,419
new york. Singapore, chicago.

11525
06:40:32,500 --> 06:40:35,000
rome. Madrid. Hong kong. To

11526
06:40:35,000 --> 06:40:38,000
name a few. The environmental

11527
06:40:38,150 --> 06:40:40,700
analysis and final

11528
06:40:40,700 --> 06:40:41,170
recommendations won't be

11529
06:40:41,170 --> 06:40:43,170
available until december 2027.

11530
06:40:45,110 --> 06:40:46,280
while I approve the framework

11531
06:40:46,280 --> 06:40:49,280
now and study the consequences

11532
06:40:50,110 --> 06:40:53,500
later. Please do not ruin a

11533
06:40:53,500 --> 06:40:55,120
great city and call it

11534
06:40:55,120 --> 06:40:57,412
progress. Thank you. >> thank

11535
06:40:58,130 --> 06:41:01,613
you. Manuel followed by j.r..

11536
06:41:03,280 --> 06:41:06,280
>> hi. Good evening, mayor and

11537
06:41:07,000 --> 06:41:08,110
council. And there's been no

11538
06:41:08,110 --> 06:41:09,190
set aside. I'm promising

11539
06:41:09,190 --> 06:41:11,230
at home I live in district four

11540
06:41:11,230 --> 06:41:12,290
and I just want to call in to

11541
06:41:12,290 --> 06:41:14,160
support increasing residential

11542
06:41:14,160 --> 06:41:15,260
neighborhood densities to 30

11543
06:41:15,260 --> 06:41:17,200
minutes per acre to support the

11544
06:41:17,200 --> 06:41:18,600
development of missing middle

11545
06:41:18,600 --> 06:41:20,160
housing from the charges and

11546
06:41:20,160 --> 06:41:21,120
committee memo. You know we

11547
06:41:21,120 --> 06:41:22,120
support increasing height

11548
06:41:22,120 --> 06:41:23,190
limits for middle houses

11549
06:41:23,190 --> 06:41:25,120
surrounding transit areas. And

11550
06:41:25,120 --> 06:41:26,170
then from the mayor's brown act

11551
06:41:26,170 --> 06:41:27,290
memo we support recommendations

11552
06:41:27,290 --> 06:41:28,270
where the need to pick up

11553
06:41:28,270 --> 06:41:31,220
lands. Also we oppose adding

11554
06:41:31,220 --> 06:41:32,210
new parking requires two

11555
06:41:32,210 --> 06:41:34,400
elements I think there's enough

11556
06:41:34,400 --> 06:41:35,800
parking to go around and in

11557
06:41:35,800 --> 06:41:36,110
certain districts seems to be

11558
06:41:36,110 --> 06:41:38,280
over part but there's means

11559
06:41:38,280 --> 06:41:40,220
of developing that that still

11560
06:41:40,220 --> 06:41:42,120
allow for the development

11561
06:41:42,120 --> 06:41:43,230
of high density housing in

11562
06:41:43,230 --> 06:41:45,280
certain regions of the city. So

11563
06:41:45,280 --> 06:41:47,300
that said, thank you for your

11564
06:41:47,300 --> 06:41:49,110
time and good luck with

11565
06:41:49,110 --> 06:41:51,220
everyone else's comments. >>

11566
06:41:51,220 --> 06:41:53,600
thank you, j.r. Followed by

11567
06:41:53,600 --> 06:41:55,406
teresa doerr. >> and evening

11568
06:41:59,000 --> 06:42:00,200
council I'm speaking in support

11569
06:42:00,200 --> 06:42:01,290
of council members command

11570
06:42:01,290 --> 06:42:04,120
tordillos memo hold the line on

11571
06:42:04,120 --> 06:42:06,800
no parking minimums don't undo

11572
06:42:06,800 --> 06:42:07,120
what the city already

11573
06:42:07,120 --> 06:42:09,140
got right. No more winchester

11574
06:42:09,140 --> 06:42:11,100
style carve outs for whoever

11575
06:42:11,100 --> 06:42:12,190
shows up and is the loudest

11576
06:42:12,190 --> 06:42:14,700
voice. I love the idea

11577
06:42:14,700 --> 06:42:16,120
of corner shops and bodegas.

11578
06:42:16,120 --> 06:42:17,270
let's be clear about why I'm

11579
06:42:17,270 --> 06:42:19,210
able to call in tonight.

11580
06:42:19,210 --> 06:42:21,300
san jose didn't restore remote

11581
06:42:21,300 --> 06:42:22,230
public comment out of goodwill

11582
06:42:22,230 --> 06:42:24,800
state law forced the city's

11583
06:42:24,800 --> 06:42:26,110
hand through sb 707 to bring

11584
06:42:26,110 --> 06:42:27,150
equity back to public

11585
06:42:27,150 --> 06:42:29,270
participation for years this

11586
06:42:29,270 --> 06:42:31,100
chamber has been dominated by

11587
06:42:31,100 --> 06:42:32,200
wealthy homeowners as we're

11588
06:42:32,200 --> 06:42:34,210
seeing tonight from districts

11589
06:42:34,210 --> 06:42:37,500
six, nine and ten with the

11590
06:42:37,500 --> 06:42:39,100
luxury of child care flexible

11591
06:42:39,100 --> 06:42:41,800
jobs and hours to sit here on a

11592
06:42:41,800 --> 06:42:43,150
weekday. It isn't civic virtue

11593
06:42:43,150 --> 06:42:45,110
it's privilege. Meanwhile, the

11594
06:42:45,110 --> 06:42:46,260
renters and working families

11595
06:42:46,260 --> 06:42:48,700
hit hardest by this housing

11596
06:42:48,700 --> 06:42:50,230
crisis are stuck in work,

11597
06:42:50,230 --> 06:42:52,120
at work in traffic or taking

11598
06:42:52,120 --> 06:42:54,170
care of their kids as the

11599
06:42:54,170 --> 06:42:56,200
campaign toward deals memo and

11600
06:42:56,200 --> 06:42:57,130
prioritizes housing over

11601
06:42:57,130 --> 06:43:00,130
parking thank you. >> thank you

11602
06:43:01,190 --> 06:43:04,190
teresa doerr followed by toni

11603
06:43:10,190 --> 06:43:13,120
there will be going to city

11604
06:43:13,120 --> 06:43:16,120
council members I am a

11605
06:43:26,120 --> 06:43:29,180
teresa I'm going to remove your

11606
06:43:29,180 --> 06:43:30,190
person to speak go ahead and

11607
06:43:30,190 --> 06:43:31,250
put your hand back up once you

11608
06:43:31,250 --> 06:43:34,130
get your audio fixed toni

11609
06:43:34,130 --> 06:43:37,130
followed by nathaniel mayor and

11610
06:43:42,220 --> 06:43:45,220
council movement for council I

11611
06:43:47,140 --> 06:43:50,300
beg you beg you to please vote

11612
06:43:50,300 --> 06:43:53,500
no on this. I have been in

11613
06:43:53,500 --> 06:43:55,220
my home for 47 years in

11614
06:43:55,220 --> 06:43:58,220
district nine. I pray every

11615
06:43:59,150 --> 06:44:00,280
time a house is sold on

11616
06:44:00,280 --> 06:44:02,290
my block that they don't put a

11617
06:44:02,290 --> 06:44:04,190
big gigantic thing and to have

11618
06:44:04,190 --> 06:44:07,140
32 units next to me would just

11619
06:44:07,140 --> 06:44:09,200
totally I would leave and

11620
06:44:09,200 --> 06:44:10,290
that's what I think is going to

11621
06:44:10,290 --> 06:44:11,270
happen is you're going to have

11622
06:44:11,270 --> 06:44:14,400
more and more people leave this

11623
06:44:14,400 --> 06:44:15,180
that have worked hard and been

11624
06:44:15,180 --> 06:44:17,100
in their homes for a long time.

11625
06:44:17,100 --> 06:44:18,170
there are places there are

11626
06:44:18,170 --> 06:44:19,250
buildings that are out there

11627
06:44:19,250 --> 06:44:21,160
that have nothing in the use

11628
06:44:21,160 --> 06:44:23,260
those for your high density I,

11629
06:44:23,260 --> 06:44:26,600
I totally totally believe that

11630
06:44:26,600 --> 06:44:27,130
we need to have affordable

11631
06:44:27,130 --> 06:44:28,210
housing but I don't think it's

11632
06:44:28,210 --> 06:44:30,600
going to happen even if you do

11633
06:44:30,600 --> 06:44:32,000
do the high density because

11634
06:44:32,000 --> 06:44:33,160
it's become ridiculous as with

11635
06:44:33,160 --> 06:44:35,800
the tech companies and the

11636
06:44:35,800 --> 06:44:36,220
wages that people are making

11637
06:44:36,220 --> 06:44:39,622
here so please please vote no

11638
06:44:41,600 --> 06:44:42,270
thank you nathaniel followed by

11639
06:44:42,270 --> 06:44:45,270
sandy. >> good evening. My name

11640
06:44:47,170 --> 06:44:50,100
is nathaniel and I've lived in

11641
06:44:50,100 --> 06:44:51,150
santa clara county for most

11642
06:44:51,150 --> 06:44:53,120
of my life and I'm here in

11643
06:44:53,120 --> 06:44:55,110
support of the missing middle

11644
06:44:55,110 --> 06:44:57,150
housing proposal. And I just

11645
06:44:57,150 --> 06:44:58,190
wanted to mention that I feel

11646
06:44:58,190 --> 06:45:00,230
like the a lot of this public

11647
06:45:00,230 --> 06:45:02,200
comment has come from like an

11648
06:45:02,200 --> 06:45:03,290
echo chamber of existing

11649
06:45:03,290 --> 06:45:06,300
homeowners. These are these are

11650
06:45:06,300 --> 06:45:07,220
people who have a home and who

11651
06:45:07,220 --> 06:45:08,250
are worried about how this is

11652
06:45:08,250 --> 06:45:09,130
going to affect their

11653
06:45:09,130 --> 06:45:11,120
neighborhood. And that's

11654
06:45:11,120 --> 06:45:13,412
understandable. But I also

11655
06:45:14,150 --> 06:45:15,160
wanted to mention that I feel

11656
06:45:15,160 --> 06:45:16,230
that right now there are

11657
06:45:16,230 --> 06:45:18,200
thousands of working families

11658
06:45:18,200 --> 06:45:19,900
in the city who are severely

11659
06:45:19,900 --> 06:45:21,200
burdened by housing costs

11660
06:45:21,200 --> 06:45:22,400
paying half their income in

11661
06:45:22,400 --> 06:45:23,900
rent, doubling up with

11662
06:45:23,900 --> 06:45:24,180
relatives or leaving that

11663
06:45:24,180 --> 06:45:27,180
region entirely and then and

11664
06:45:28,600 --> 06:45:29,190
missing middle housing is like

11665
06:45:29,190 --> 06:45:30,150
one step in the right

11666
06:45:30,150 --> 06:45:32,210
direction. So I just I'm asking

11667
06:45:32,210 --> 06:45:33,280
for you guys to please vote yes

11668
06:45:33,280 --> 06:45:36,628
on it. Thank you. >> thank you,

11669
06:45:38,800 --> 06:45:40,408
sandy followed by gorman

11670
06:45:51,600 --> 06:45:52,280
. Good >> evening mayor and

11671
06:45:52,280 --> 06:45:55,600
council members. I request that

11672
06:45:55,600 --> 06:45:57,700
you reject this city missing

11673
06:45:57,700 --> 06:46:00,700
middle proposal. Why? It just

11674
06:46:00,160 --> 06:46:02,180
makes absolute lutely no sense

11675
06:46:02,180 --> 06:46:04,130
at all. No parking space

11676
06:46:04,130 --> 06:46:06,210
minimums by right development

11677
06:46:06,210 --> 06:46:08,210
up to 32 homes on a current

11678
06:46:08,210 --> 06:46:11,000
single family lot and the list

11679
06:46:11,000 --> 06:46:14,270
goes on and on and on. I don't

11680
06:46:14,270 --> 06:46:16,240
think anyone is objecting to

11681
06:46:16,240 --> 06:46:18,230
more housing but what we are

11682
06:46:18,230 --> 06:46:20,270
objecting to is the increase

11683
06:46:20,270 --> 06:46:23,110
density and the density in

11684
06:46:23,110 --> 06:46:25,000
existing single family

11685
06:46:25,000 --> 06:46:27,130
neighborhoods. I asked that

11686
06:46:27,130 --> 06:46:29,140
before a vote is taken this

11687
06:46:29,140 --> 06:46:31,210
evening by council you do two

11688
06:46:31,210 --> 06:46:33,260
things and share that

11689
06:46:33,260 --> 06:46:35,426
information with the auditorium

11690
06:46:36,100 --> 06:46:39,800
and those online a tally for

11691
06:46:39,800 --> 06:46:41,300
the for and against written

11692
06:46:41,300 --> 06:46:43,110
comments. And I sure hope you

11693
06:46:43,110 --> 06:46:46,100
read them and a tally for the

11694
06:46:46,100 --> 06:46:47,200
for and against verbal

11695
06:46:47,200 --> 06:46:49,420
testimonies tonight think about

11696
06:46:51,120 --> 06:46:53,110
those numbers and the con >>

11697
06:46:53,110 --> 06:46:55,700
thank you gorman followed by

11698
06:46:55,700 --> 06:46:57,700
kenneth. >> >> hello city

11699
06:47:00,150 --> 06:47:03,600
council I want you to remember

11700
06:47:03,600 --> 06:47:05,180
you're on video we can see you

11701
06:47:05,180 --> 06:47:07,100
on your phones because you've

11702
06:47:07,100 --> 06:47:09,130
probably lost interest of all

11703
06:47:09,130 --> 06:47:11,150
these people giving their

11704
06:47:11,150 --> 06:47:14,900
opinions. I've also been here

11705
06:47:14,900 --> 06:47:16,180
since 130 and I'm very

11706
06:47:16,180 --> 06:47:18,180
passionate about rejecting

11707
06:47:18,220 --> 06:47:20,250
this. All of this as the

11708
06:47:20,250 --> 06:47:22,290
members of our city. This is

11709
06:47:22,290 --> 06:47:25,200
not a state requirement. This

11710
06:47:25,200 --> 06:47:27,290
is you this city who want to

11711
06:47:27,290 --> 06:47:30,170
take away the homes that we

11712
06:47:30,170 --> 06:47:33,000
paid for that we've worked for.

11713
06:47:33,000 --> 06:47:35,220
and if you if you listen >> to

11714
06:47:35,220 --> 06:47:37,220
the vast majority of the people

11715
06:47:37,220 --> 06:47:39,150
that are against it are

11716
06:47:39,150 --> 06:47:41,100
developers and real estate

11717
06:47:41,100 --> 06:47:42,270
agents because they're going to

11718
06:47:42,270 --> 06:47:45,100
be making millions off of the

11719
06:47:45,100 --> 06:47:47,230
backs of the people that made

11720
06:47:47,230 --> 06:47:49,100
san jose a desirable

11721
06:47:49,100 --> 06:47:52,100
neighborhood to live in. Okay.

11722
06:47:54,100 --> 06:47:56,300
thank you kenneth followed by

11723
06:47:56,300 --> 06:47:59,603
george kenneth kay >> I'm going

11724
06:48:09,000 --> 06:48:10,210
to move on. George followed by

11725
06:48:10,210 --> 06:48:13,210
jake after >> jake will be

11726
06:48:16,900 --> 06:48:19,900
sarina to george okay. Jake

11727
06:48:25,800 --> 06:48:27,100
followed by serena and after

11728
06:48:27,100 --> 06:48:30,610
serena we're back to teresa.

11729
06:48:31,200 --> 06:48:32,130
I'm here. When I heard about

11730
06:48:32,130 --> 06:48:34,190
this up zoning, I thought it

11731
06:48:34,190 --> 06:48:36,200
was honestly some trump

11732
06:48:36,200 --> 06:48:38,160
corrupts real estate developer

11733
06:48:38,160 --> 06:48:40,900
written proposal not our local

11734
06:48:40,900 --> 06:48:42,150
city council on development

11735
06:48:42,150 --> 06:48:45,200
planning board. I mean I hear

11736
06:48:45,200 --> 06:48:46,130
people say they want lower

11737
06:48:46,130 --> 06:48:48,140
housing, more affordability. I

11738
06:48:48,140 --> 06:48:49,240
totally understand that but

11739
06:48:49,240 --> 06:48:50,230
that's not what this is going

11740
06:48:50,230 --> 06:48:52,160
to do. When you go to buy a

11741
06:48:52,160 --> 06:48:53,150
house you're a first time

11742
06:48:53,150 --> 06:48:54,160
buyer. It's going to get bought

11743
06:48:54,160 --> 06:48:55,270
by a real estate developer.

11744
06:48:55,270 --> 06:48:56,250
they're going to outbid you

11745
06:48:56,250 --> 06:48:57,260
because they have more money

11746
06:48:57,260 --> 06:48:59,200
than you and then they're going

11747
06:48:59,200 --> 06:48:59,270
to take it and they're going to

11748
06:48:59,270 --> 06:49:01,200
build a bunch of houses on it.

11749
06:49:01,200 --> 06:49:01,210
they're going to sell it for

11750
06:49:01,210 --> 06:49:02,280
millions of dollars. They're

11751
06:49:02,280 --> 06:49:04,210
not buying them to lose money.

11752
06:49:04,210 --> 06:49:05,150
they're buying them to make

11753
06:49:05,150 --> 06:49:06,260
money. We're also one of the

11754
06:49:06,260 --> 06:49:07,270
places that it's the most

11755
06:49:07,270 --> 06:49:09,150
expensive to build as well.

11756
06:49:09,150 --> 06:49:10,250
that's why home prices are

11757
06:49:10,250 --> 06:49:12,100
super high as they are right

11758
06:49:12,100 --> 06:49:14,500
now. So I definitely urge you

11759
06:49:14,500 --> 06:49:15,150
guys as somebody that's in real

11760
06:49:15,150 --> 06:49:16,260
estate to vote no it's going to

11761
06:49:16,260 --> 06:49:18,160
hurt the city, not help it's

11762
06:49:18,160 --> 06:49:19,200
going to kill our

11763
06:49:19,200 --> 06:49:21,290
neighborhoods. Thank you. Thank

11764
06:49:21,290 --> 06:49:23,429
>> you, serena followed by

11765
06:49:24,300 --> 06:49:27,603
theresa doe hello. My name is

11766
06:49:29,110 --> 06:49:30,280
serena wu and I recently bought

11767
06:49:30,280 --> 06:49:32,300
a duplex with friends in

11768
06:49:32,300 --> 06:49:33,160
district three. I support

11769
06:49:33,160 --> 06:49:35,200
increasing housing density in

11770
06:49:35,200 --> 06:49:36,900
san jose to at least 32

11771
06:49:36,900 --> 06:49:37,210
dwelling units per acre because

11772
06:49:37,210 --> 06:49:38,170
it's clear to me from

11773
06:49:38,170 --> 06:49:39,190
my experience in the current

11774
06:49:39,190 --> 06:49:41,120
housing market how difficult it

11775
06:49:41,120 --> 06:49:42,210
is to find affordable housing

11776
06:49:42,210 --> 06:49:44,280
in san jose and our need for

11777
06:49:44,280 --> 06:49:46,200
additional housing to meet our

11778
06:49:46,200 --> 06:49:47,100
housing goals has been an issue

11779
06:49:47,100 --> 06:49:48,270
for years already housing

11780
06:49:48,270 --> 06:49:50,400
density does not increase

11781
06:49:50,400 --> 06:49:51,250
overnight after rezoning

11782
06:49:51,250 --> 06:49:53,100
according to the city's general

11783
06:49:53,100 --> 06:49:54,110
four year plan, the city needs

11784
06:49:54,110 --> 06:49:56,100
55 dwelling units per acre to

11785
06:49:56,100 --> 06:49:57,150
break even in terms

11786
06:49:57,150 --> 06:49:59,100
of providing the services the

11787
06:49:59,100 --> 06:50:00,190
people living there get. So an

11788
06:50:00,190 --> 06:50:02,400
increase to 32 dwelling units

11789
06:50:02,400 --> 06:50:03,110
per acre is only part of what

11790
06:50:03,110 --> 06:50:05,800
we need. I do not want a

11791
06:50:05,800 --> 06:50:06,190
crumbling san jose 30 years

11792
06:50:06,190 --> 06:50:08,170
from now. We need action now to

11793
06:50:08,170 --> 06:50:09,180
build towards a future that

11794
06:50:09,180 --> 06:50:11,300
supports the generations to

11795
06:50:11,300 --> 06:50:12,170
come. We need to vote yes on

11796
06:50:12,170 --> 06:50:14,500
little missing and missing

11797
06:50:14,500 --> 06:50:16,240
middle housing. Thank you.

11798
06:50:16,240 --> 06:50:18,424
thank you >> theresa. Theresa,

11799
06:50:26,130 --> 06:50:27,190
there is something you're not

11800
06:50:27,190 --> 06:50:29,000
you're microphone isn't showing

11801
06:50:29,000 --> 06:50:31,160
up at all so I think you are

11802
06:50:31,160 --> 06:50:33,130
still having audio problems.

11803
06:50:33,130 --> 06:50:35,270
caller 5140 please press star

11804
06:50:35,270 --> 06:50:38,627
six to unmute. Okay go ahead.

11805
06:50:46,290 --> 06:50:48,140
we can hear you. >> oh thank

11806
06:50:48,140 --> 06:50:50,180
you. Oh thank you. Great. Yeah

11807
06:50:50,180 --> 06:50:51,250
I think you guys need to reject

11808
06:50:51,250 --> 06:50:54,150
this. It's not going to work if

11809
06:50:54,150 --> 06:50:56,100
you don't have enough laborers

11810
06:50:56,100 --> 06:50:58,130
that you to do the work. The

11811
06:50:58,130 --> 06:50:59,290
building materials are super

11812
06:50:59,290 --> 06:51:02,700
expensive and I want anyone to

11813
06:51:02,700 --> 06:51:03,500
raise their hand there

11814
06:51:03,500 --> 06:51:04,120
including the city council. If

11815
06:51:04,120 --> 06:51:05,260
they took mass transit to even

11816
06:51:05,260 --> 06:51:07,210
get there today where they have

11817
06:51:07,210 --> 06:51:09,900
a great public transportation

11818
06:51:09,900 --> 06:51:12,220
connect they don't have. So

11819
06:51:12,220 --> 06:51:14,240
it's very important to not ruin

11820
06:51:14,240 --> 06:51:16,400
the neighborhood people who

11821
06:51:16,400 --> 06:51:17,270
have lived there for for a

11822
06:51:17,270 --> 06:51:21,227
while of what >> it's the same

11823
06:51:22,240 --> 06:51:23,280
person who is in person. Thank

11824
06:51:23,280 --> 06:51:26,400
you. Yeah. You can't go home

11825
06:51:26,400 --> 06:51:29,000
and raise your hand again, john

11826
06:51:29,000 --> 06:51:32,000
followed by george >> and john

11827
06:51:45,150 --> 06:51:46,200
kate george followed by

11828
06:51:46,200 --> 06:51:49,620
kenneth. Can you hear me okay?

11829
06:52:00,900 --> 06:52:02,130
you >> I took your permission

11830
06:52:02,130 --> 06:52:04,200
away because you're having a

11831
06:52:04,200 --> 06:52:06,700
really, really big feedback on

11832
06:52:06,700 --> 06:52:09,000
your microphone so try to fix

11833
06:52:09,000 --> 06:52:10,110
your audio. We're going to

11834
06:52:10,110 --> 06:52:13,400
go to kenneth followed by pm.

11835
06:52:13,400 --> 06:52:16,400
>> good evening. Can you hear

11836
06:52:17,140 --> 06:52:20,500
me? Yes, yes. Hi, I'm kenneth.

11837
06:52:20,500 --> 06:52:21,100
kenneth, have you ever saw

11838
06:52:21,100 --> 06:52:23,120
this? I live in district three.

11839
06:52:23,120 --> 06:52:24,200
I support >> enabling the

11840
06:52:24,200 --> 06:52:25,270
development of missing middle

11841
06:52:25,270 --> 06:52:27,600
housing in all residential

11842
06:52:27,600 --> 06:52:28,230
neighborhoods >> by increasing

11843
06:52:28,230 --> 06:52:31,230
density to 32 units per acre.

11844
06:52:31,230 --> 06:52:33,500
this will help create much

11845
06:52:33,500 --> 06:52:35,000
needed more affordable homes in

11846
06:52:35,000 --> 06:52:36,290
san jose make smart strategic

11847
06:52:36,290 --> 06:52:38,700
use of our existing

11848
06:52:38,700 --> 06:52:39,240
infrastructure and reduce

11849
06:52:39,240 --> 06:52:41,400
greenhouse gas emissions by

11850
06:52:41,400 --> 06:52:42,120
letting people live closer to

11851
06:52:42,120 --> 06:52:44,200
where they live work I

11852
06:52:44,200 --> 06:52:45,140
encourage the council to take

11853
06:52:45,140 --> 06:52:47,140
this necessary step in keeping

11854
06:52:47,140 --> 06:52:48,230
with the city's housing element

11855
06:52:48,230 --> 06:52:50,240
commitment. I support removing

11856
06:52:50,240 --> 06:52:52,250
barriers including general plan

11857
06:52:52,250 --> 06:52:54,600
amendments for school districts

11858
06:52:54,600 --> 06:52:55,800
and faith communities that are

11859
06:52:55,800 --> 06:52:57,120
zoned pcp to build affordable

11860
06:52:57,120 --> 06:52:59,100
housing and other communities

11861
06:52:59,100 --> 06:53:01,220
serving uses on their land. I

11862
06:53:01,220 --> 06:53:03,600
oppose adding new parking

11863
06:53:03,600 --> 06:53:04,240
requirements or limiting the

11864
06:53:04,240 --> 06:53:07,500
parts of a city where middle

11865
06:53:07,500 --> 06:53:09,160
housing could be built. We need

11866
06:53:09,160 --> 06:53:11,190
it in every neighborhood. Thank

11867
06:53:11,190 --> 06:53:15,220
you so much. I yield my time.

11868
06:53:15,220 --> 06:53:18,622
thank you. P m followed by

11869
06:53:19,600 --> 06:53:22,600
chris hi. Thank you for

11870
06:53:22,100 --> 06:53:23,140
allowing me to address the

11871
06:53:23,140 --> 06:53:25,180
council. I was actually there

11872
06:53:25,180 --> 06:53:26,270
in person for several hours

11873
06:53:26,270 --> 06:53:28,230
today. However I have young

11874
06:53:28,230 --> 06:53:30,290
children and had to go and get

11875
06:53:30,290 --> 06:53:33,100
them to not take mass transit

11876
06:53:33,100 --> 06:53:33,220
because that would have been

11877
06:53:33,220 --> 06:53:35,600
impossible to pick them up that

11878
06:53:35,600 --> 06:53:36,110
school and get where they need

11879
06:53:36,110 --> 06:53:38,100
to be and soccer and I'm

11880
06:53:38,100 --> 06:53:39,400
sitting out here in the car

11881
06:53:39,400 --> 06:53:40,210
waiting for my daughter to end

11882
06:53:40,210 --> 06:53:43,621
her dance class so in general

11883
06:53:44,000 --> 06:53:44,220
there's a big difference

11884
06:53:44,220 --> 06:53:46,422
between allowing more housing

11885
06:53:47,700 --> 06:53:48,230
and changing the underlying

11886
06:53:48,230 --> 06:53:50,240
zoning expectations and I don't

11887
06:53:50,240 --> 06:53:51,200
know if any of you have driven

11888
06:53:51,200 --> 06:53:52,280
down bascom but all the new

11889
06:53:52,280 --> 06:53:53,240
apartments here and there's a

11890
06:53:53,240 --> 06:53:55,700
lot of vailable you know,

11891
06:53:55,700 --> 06:53:56,110
studios are starting at over

11892
06:53:56,110 --> 06:53:58,170
$3,000 so I'm really not sure

11893
06:53:58,170 --> 06:54:00,600
what's being proposed is going

11894
06:54:00,600 --> 06:54:02,500
to make things affordable. It's

11895
06:54:02,500 --> 06:54:04,160
just going to add new problems

11896
06:54:04,160 --> 06:54:06,220
and I think not solve what

11897
06:54:06,220 --> 06:54:07,250
we're ultimately trying to get

11898
06:54:07,250 --> 06:54:09,260
to here. So please I fear that

11899
06:54:09,260 --> 06:54:11,200
there's no going back if this

11900
06:54:11,200 --> 06:54:12,250
passes and I would like to see

11901
06:54:12,250 --> 06:54:15,300
a no vote. I yield my time.

11902
06:54:15,300 --> 06:54:18,300
thank you. Chris followed by

11903
06:54:19,120 --> 06:54:23,270
john I >> just like to speak in

11904
06:54:23,270 --> 06:54:26,200
favor of the missing as missing

11905
06:54:26,200 --> 06:54:28,300
middle proposal and ask the

11906
06:54:28,300 --> 06:54:30,100
council to vote yes. There are

11907
06:54:30,100 --> 06:54:31,140
a lot of other comments I just

11908
06:54:31,140 --> 06:54:32,290
want to I'm not a developer.

11909
06:54:32,290 --> 06:54:35,200
I'm a resident and I think a

11910
06:54:35,200 --> 06:54:36,240
lot of the comments sort

11911
06:54:36,240 --> 06:54:38,120
of like to highlight that

11912
06:54:38,120 --> 06:54:40,300
provides a lot of goes a long

11913
06:54:40,300 --> 06:54:42,100
ways to providing more housing

11914
06:54:42,100 --> 06:54:45,601
which is sorely needed and and

11915
06:54:46,800 --> 06:54:47,400
basically I think more housing

11916
06:54:47,400 --> 06:54:48,240
supply will help bring down the

11917
06:54:48,240 --> 06:54:49,240
the cost of housing and make

11918
06:54:49,240 --> 06:54:52,200
more housing available. There's

11919
06:54:52,200 --> 06:54:53,900
a meter across island saying

11920
06:54:53,900 --> 06:54:56,900
thank you >> thank >> you john

11921
06:54:57,100 --> 06:54:59,000
followed by teresa after teresa

11922
06:54:59,000 --> 06:55:01,130
I'm going to close now regina

11923
06:55:01,130 --> 06:55:02,140
just put her hand up after

11924
06:55:02,140 --> 06:55:04,210
regina. I'm going to close

11925
06:55:04,210 --> 06:55:06,700
online comments. I'm going to

11926
06:55:06,700 --> 06:55:07,260
call the last couple of names

11927
06:55:07,260 --> 06:55:09,426
of in-person okay, john,

11928
06:55:11,220 --> 06:55:14,200
go ahead. >> hi, this is john

11929
06:55:14,200 --> 06:55:15,180
hessler. I'm the vice present

11930
06:55:15,180 --> 06:55:16,230
of the center teresa foothills

11931
06:55:16,230 --> 06:55:18,180
neighborhood association. We

11932
06:55:18,180 --> 06:55:20,418
represent over 4200 homes in

11933
06:55:21,150 --> 06:55:23,100
the south san jose area and our

11934
06:55:23,100 --> 06:55:24,160
board of directors is

11935
06:55:24,160 --> 06:55:26,160
unanimously and strongly

11936
06:55:26,230 --> 06:55:28,220
opposed to the missing middle

11937
06:55:28,220 --> 06:55:31,200
proposal. We note that the

11938
06:55:31,200 --> 06:55:32,160
missing middle proposal

11939
06:55:32,160 --> 06:55:34,700
directly violates and

11940
06:55:34,700 --> 06:55:36,200
undermines a key principle

11941
06:55:36,200 --> 06:55:37,210
of the existing san jose

11942
06:55:37,210 --> 06:55:40,210
general plan known as major

11943
06:55:40,220 --> 06:55:42,422
strategy number three which

11944
06:55:43,180 --> 06:55:46,300
talks about keeping growth in

11945
06:55:46,300 --> 06:55:47,230
identified growth areas and

11946
06:55:47,230 --> 06:55:49,500
strictly limiting new

11947
06:55:49,500 --> 06:55:51,400
residential development through

11948
06:55:51,400 --> 06:55:52,270
neighborhood infill outside

11949
06:55:52,270 --> 06:55:54,280
of those growth areas to quote

11950
06:55:54,280 --> 06:55:56,270
preserve and enhance the

11951
06:55:56,270 --> 06:55:58,210
quality of established

11952
06:55:58,210 --> 06:56:00,421
neighborhoods. Thank you. Thank

11953
06:56:02,000 --> 06:56:03,200
you, teresa. Let's try one more

11954
06:56:03,200 --> 06:56:06,620
time and followed by regina can

11955
06:56:08,700 --> 06:56:10,220
you hear me? Yes. Good evening

11956
06:56:10,220 --> 06:56:11,230
. May or may han and >> council

11957
06:56:11,230 --> 06:56:13,200
members I'm a resident

11958
06:56:13,200 --> 06:56:14,120
of district six. I'm speaking

11959
06:56:14,120 --> 06:56:16,300
on behalf of over 1000 members

11960
06:56:16,300 --> 06:56:17,900
of san jose yimby we appreciate

11961
06:56:17,900 --> 06:56:18,130
the work you're doing to guide

11962
06:56:18,130 --> 06:56:19,120
san jose's future and we're

11963
06:56:19,120 --> 06:56:20,120
supportive of the direction

11964
06:56:20,120 --> 06:56:22,000
staff has taken. However, we're

11965
06:56:22,000 --> 06:56:23,150
concerned that reducing plan

11966
06:56:23,150 --> 06:56:25,000
density and reinstating parking

11967
06:56:25,000 --> 06:56:26,210
minimums in key neighborhoods

11968
06:56:26,210 --> 06:56:27,230
will limit the city's ability

11969
06:56:27,230 --> 06:56:29,700
to respond effectively to our

11970
06:56:29,700 --> 06:56:30,290
housing crisis. These areas

11971
06:56:30,290 --> 06:56:32,800
were selected because they have

11972
06:56:32,800 --> 06:56:34,100
strong infrastructure, good

11973
06:56:34,100 --> 06:56:35,170
transit access and existing

11974
06:56:35,170 --> 06:56:37,200
parking capacity, adding new

11975
06:56:37,200 --> 06:56:38,130
parking requirements or slowing

11976
06:56:38,130 --> 06:56:39,240
density makes housing more

11977
06:56:39,240 --> 06:56:41,120
expensive to build and reduces

11978
06:56:41,120 --> 06:56:42,210
the home number of homes we can

11979
06:56:42,210 --> 06:56:44,000
create where they make the most

11980
06:56:44,000 --> 06:56:45,900
sense if we miss these

11981
06:56:45,900 --> 06:56:47,700
opportunities. San jose loses

11982
06:56:47,700 --> 06:56:48,290
critical housing capacity this

11983
06:56:48,290 --> 06:56:50,200
affects people who keep our

11984
06:56:50,200 --> 06:56:51,140
city running firefighters,

11985
06:56:51,140 --> 06:56:53,300
teachers, nurses and other

11986
06:56:53,300 --> 06:56:54,120
essential workers who already

11987
06:56:54,120 --> 06:56:55,280
face long commutes. It affects

11988
06:56:55,280 --> 06:56:57,100
families trying to stay near

11989
06:56:57,100 --> 06:56:59,700
loved ones seniors on fixed

11990
06:56:59,700 --> 06:57:01,400
incomes who risked displacement

11991
06:57:01,400 --> 06:57:02,800
and the next generation of tech

11992
06:57:02,800 --> 06:57:03,170
workers who may choose other

11993
06:57:03,170 --> 06:57:04,210
regions if they cannot afford

11994
06:57:04,210 --> 06:57:06,500
to live here. San jose must

11995
06:57:06,500 --> 06:57:07,100
build the housing needed for

11996
06:57:07,100 --> 06:57:08,100
both today and tomorrow

11997
06:57:08,100 --> 06:57:10,800
policies that key thank >> you

11998
06:57:10,800 --> 06:57:12,160
regina. After regina it will be

11999
06:57:12,160 --> 06:57:14,180
debbie, debra and ted in

12000
06:57:14,180 --> 06:57:17,180
person. So debbie, debbie and

12001
06:57:17,250 --> 06:57:19,120
ted you can make your way down.

12002
06:57:19,120 --> 06:57:22,120
regina go ahead. Good evening.

12003
06:57:23,400 --> 06:57:24,130
my name is regina celeste in

12004
06:57:24,130 --> 06:57:25,290
williams and I'm the executive

12005
06:57:25,290 --> 06:57:28,500
director of sba at home and a

12006
06:57:28,500 --> 06:57:30,600
district three resident. I'm

12007
06:57:30,600 --> 06:57:32,100
really excited about the staff

12008
06:57:32,100 --> 06:57:33,270
recommendations because we are

12009
06:57:33,270 --> 06:57:35,270
sba at home support increasing

12010
06:57:35,270 --> 06:57:36,270
residential neighborhood

12011
06:57:36,270 --> 06:57:39,270
densities to 32 units per acre.

12012
06:57:40,200 --> 06:57:42,500
we want to support the

12013
06:57:42,500 --> 06:57:43,210
development of more housing

12014
06:57:43,210 --> 06:57:45,700
especially neighborhood scale

12015
06:57:45,700 --> 06:57:47,900
housing which can create much

12016
06:57:47,900 --> 06:57:49,230
needed affordable homes in

12017
06:57:49,230 --> 06:57:51,270
san jose and we encourage

12018
06:57:51,270 --> 06:57:53,427
council to really support

12019
06:57:54,210 --> 06:57:56,240
building more housing in this

12020
06:57:56,240 --> 06:57:58,130
city where people are looking

12021
06:57:58,130 --> 06:58:00,220
for more affordability from the

12022
06:58:00,220 --> 06:58:03,000
tordillos and campaign memo we

12023
06:58:03,000 --> 06:58:05,100
support increased height limits

12024
06:58:05,100 --> 06:58:07,130
for middle housing surrounding

12025
06:58:07,130 --> 06:58:09,100
transit areas and from the

12026
06:58:09,100 --> 06:58:11,100
mayor's brownback memo we

12027
06:58:11,100 --> 06:58:12,190
support the recommendations

12028
06:58:12,190 --> 06:58:14,260
related to pickup. We're very

12029
06:58:14,260 --> 06:58:15,250
excited about those

12030
06:58:15,250 --> 06:58:17,425
recommendations and we oppose

12031
06:58:18,190 --> 06:58:20,200
adding new parking requirement

12032
06:58:20,200 --> 06:58:22,402
to developments. Thank you.

12033
06:58:23,190 --> 06:58:25,419
thank you. Next speaker. >>

12034
06:58:29,210 --> 06:58:31,200
good evening mayor and council

12035
06:58:31,200 --> 06:58:32,260
members. And it's been a long

12036
06:58:32,260 --> 06:58:35,700
day. As a neighbor resident

12037
06:58:35,700 --> 06:58:36,150
curry neighborhood resident who

12038
06:58:36,150 --> 06:58:38,170
championed against the 17 story

12039
06:58:38,170 --> 06:58:40,170
proposal at 826 north

12040
06:58:41,800 --> 06:58:43,300
winchester, it's gratifying to

12041
06:58:43,300 --> 06:58:45,240
see the turnout today from more

12042
06:58:45,240 --> 06:58:47,120
san jose residents who love

12043
06:58:47,120 --> 06:58:48,290
this city and want to see a

12044
06:58:48,290 --> 06:58:50,270
thoughtful housing plan. I

12045
06:58:50,270 --> 06:58:52,210
strongly support the mixed use

12046
06:58:52,210 --> 06:58:54,400
neighborhood designation for

12047
06:58:54,400 --> 06:58:55,120
the winchester boulevard

12048
06:58:55,120 --> 06:58:57,700
corridor that is included in

12049
06:58:57,700 --> 06:58:58,270
the recommendation from council

12050
06:58:58,270 --> 06:59:00,427
members mulcahy, kendell and

12051
06:59:01,140 --> 06:59:03,150
ortiz. It's sensible, it's

12052
06:59:03,150 --> 06:59:05,220
reasonable and smart. It's a

12053
06:59:05,220 --> 06:59:07,422
realistic compromise. But I

12054
06:59:08,300 --> 06:59:09,100
have an important task and we

12055
06:59:09,100 --> 06:59:11,800
must address transportation

12056
06:59:11,800 --> 06:59:13,240
traffic and infrastructure bill

12057
06:59:13,240 --> 06:59:15,700
before we move forward with a

12058
06:59:15,700 --> 06:59:17,110
comprehensive housing plan. I

12059
06:59:17,110 --> 06:59:18,160
know you're under pressure from

12060
06:59:18,160 --> 06:59:20,200
the state but I know we can do

12061
06:59:20,200 --> 06:59:22,210
better. Thank you. Thank you.

12062
06:59:22,210 --> 06:59:23,290
next speaker I'd also like to

12063
06:59:23,290 --> 06:59:25,400
now announce that every single

12064
06:59:25,400 --> 06:59:27,290
card has been called from

12065
06:59:27,290 --> 06:59:31,000
inside and out. If you put in a

12066
06:59:31,000 --> 06:59:32,140
card and did not hear your

12067
06:59:32,140 --> 06:59:34,230
name, this is the time to line

12068
06:59:34,230 --> 06:59:37,623
up. Go ahead. Thank you, mayor

12069
06:59:41,170 --> 06:59:44,190
. And the council members I'm

12070
06:59:44,190 --> 06:59:46,210
debbie kerzner and I have lived

12071
06:59:46,210 --> 06:59:49,230
in san jose for 47 years in the

12072
06:59:49,230 --> 06:59:52,800
cary neighborhood. Our city is

12073
06:59:52,800 --> 06:59:54,100
a vibrant has a vibrant

12074
06:59:54,100 --> 06:59:56,700
downtown. It has vibrant

12075
06:59:56,700 --> 06:59:58,700
neighborhoods. They are

12076
06:59:59,000 --> 07:00:02,000
beautiful and they are the life

12077
07:00:02,000 --> 07:00:04,260
of san jose. Please do not make

12078
07:00:04,260 --> 07:00:06,200
our neighborhoods high density

12079
07:00:06,200 --> 07:00:08,270
parking lots on all of our

12080
07:00:08,270 --> 07:00:10,427
neighborhood streets. The new

12081
07:00:11,110 --> 07:00:13,150
apartments built recently in

12082
07:00:13,150 --> 07:00:15,500
our area of south winchester

12083
07:00:15,500 --> 07:00:18,500
and bascom are not affordable.

12084
07:00:18,280 --> 07:00:21,170
you want to increase density

12085
07:00:21,170 --> 07:00:23,180
but we already have traffic

12086
07:00:23,180 --> 07:00:25,000
problems and terrible

12087
07:00:25,000 --> 07:00:27,500
congestion. And that has not

12088
07:00:27,500 --> 07:00:30,600
been addressed. And we need the

12089
07:00:30,600 --> 07:00:33,600
public transit to be adequate.

12090
07:00:33,250 --> 07:00:35,290
please work to use the

12091
07:00:35,290 --> 07:00:37,210
unoccupied tech buildings and

12092
07:00:37,210 --> 07:00:39,100
apartments in the city to

12093
07:00:39,100 --> 07:00:41,410
increase the density. I >>

12094
07:00:42,200 --> 07:00:43,250
thank you that your time next

12095
07:00:43,250 --> 07:00:45,425
speaker. Mayor city council.

12096
07:00:52,600 --> 07:00:54,406
good evening. Life, liberty.

12097
07:00:56,120 --> 07:00:57,280
the >> pursuit of happiness.

12098
07:00:57,280 --> 07:00:59,200
that's what's going out the

12099
07:00:59,200 --> 07:01:01,300
door here. That's in the

12100
07:01:01,300 --> 07:01:02,100
declaration of independence

12101
07:01:02,100 --> 07:01:03,260
thomas written by thomas

12102
07:01:03,260 --> 07:01:06,626
jefferson. >> I think we've had

12103
07:01:08,000 --> 07:01:10,210
some paid speakers here tonight

12104
07:01:10,210 --> 07:01:13,210
that were >> supportive of this

12105
07:01:14,160 --> 07:01:17,616
>> and this area has not been

12106
07:01:21,120 --> 07:01:23,200
>> affordable for more than 40

12107
07:01:23,200 --> 07:01:26,700
years. Also I think it's a

12108
07:01:26,700 --> 07:01:28,260
disgrace for what I'll call

12109
07:01:28,260 --> 07:01:31,260
newbies to criticize people who

12110
07:01:32,260 --> 07:01:35,260
have lived here for 5060 years

12111
07:01:36,200 --> 07:01:38,500
and they don't know the

12112
07:01:38,500 --> 07:01:40,260
struggles that those people

12113
07:01:40,260 --> 07:01:42,426
including myself went through

12114
07:01:43,600 --> 07:01:45,100
to even get our homes 40 years

12115
07:01:45,100 --> 07:01:47,290
ago. I'm out of time. Thank

12116
07:01:47,290 --> 07:01:50,290
you. >> thank you. Next speaker

12117
07:01:55,270 --> 07:01:57,800
I support the >> memo from

12118
07:01:57,800 --> 07:01:58,240
council members mulcahy

12119
07:01:58,240 --> 07:02:00,424
candidates and ortiz rezoning

12120
07:02:01,150 --> 07:02:03,000
the winchester corridor as

12121
07:02:03,000 --> 07:02:04,110
outlined in their memo is

12122
07:02:04,110 --> 07:02:06,700
reasonable whereas the staff

12123
07:02:06,700 --> 07:02:08,170
recommendations were not. The

12124
07:02:08,170 --> 07:02:09,200
staff recommendations

12125
07:02:09,200 --> 07:02:11,190
contradict san jose's goal

12126
07:02:11,190 --> 07:02:13,200
of preserving the business tax

12127
07:02:13,200 --> 07:02:15,200
base. Why weren't businesses in

12128
07:02:15,200 --> 07:02:16,180
the affected zone consulted by

12129
07:02:16,180 --> 07:02:17,220
the city during the staff

12130
07:02:17,220 --> 07:02:19,190
recommendation process

12131
07:02:19,190 --> 07:02:22,200
regarding a26 winter storm? The

12132
07:02:22,200 --> 07:02:23,140
planning commissioner who

12133
07:02:23,140 --> 07:02:24,170
stated he visited the

12134
07:02:24,170 --> 07:02:26,180
neighborhood explained how that

12135
07:02:26,180 --> 07:02:28,900
exploration caused him to

12136
07:02:28,900 --> 07:02:30,900
understand 8 to 6 winchester

12137
07:02:30,280 --> 07:02:32,190
boulevard >> should not be re

12138
07:02:32,190 --> 07:02:35,400
zoned as the staff recommended.

12139
07:02:35,400 --> 07:02:37,120
come and see for yourself the

12140
07:02:37,120 --> 07:02:39,150
two legs of this l-shaped

12141
07:02:39,150 --> 07:02:41,190
property surrounded on exterior

12142
07:02:41,190 --> 07:02:44,800
sides by one side with the legs

12143
07:02:44,800 --> 07:02:45,230
>> with the leg connecting to

12144
07:02:45,230 --> 07:02:47,230
winchester being extremely

12145
07:02:48,200 --> 07:02:50,000
narrow. The need for more

12146
07:02:50,000 --> 07:02:51,150
housing doesn't justify trying

12147
07:02:51,150 --> 07:02:52,280
to pack the staff recommended

12148
07:02:52,280 --> 07:02:55,200
level density level into cary

12149
07:02:55,200 --> 07:02:56,800
neighborhood. Those >>

12150
07:02:56,800 --> 07:02:59,800
recommend that's your >> time

12151
07:02:59,160 --> 07:03:01,150
next speaker. This is our final

12152
07:03:01,150 --> 07:03:04,615
speaker. Well this has been a

12153
07:03:05,220 --> 07:03:07,220
fun night. Good evening,

12154
07:03:07,220 --> 07:03:10,100
council. First of all I want to

12155
07:03:10,100 --> 07:03:11,000
thank you staff for the work

12156
07:03:11,000 --> 07:03:13,100
that you've done. And I'd like

12157
07:03:13,100 --> 07:03:14,180
to say mayor mehan, if you

12158
07:03:14,180 --> 07:03:15,100
could be a little bit more

12159
07:03:15,100 --> 07:03:16,150
judicious with that gavel. I've

12160
07:03:16,150 --> 07:03:17,700
heard a lot of clapping

12161
07:03:17,700 --> 07:03:20,200
tonight. >> but I do want to

12162
07:03:20,200 --> 07:03:22,400
speak in very, very strong

12163
07:03:22,400 --> 07:03:24,100
support of the memo from

12164
07:03:24,100 --> 07:03:26,410
councilmembers come in terms

12165
07:03:27,200 --> 07:03:29,140
the desperate desperate need

12166
07:03:29,140 --> 07:03:32,400
for housing in the city is the

12167
07:03:32,400 --> 07:03:33,240
issue not only of the day

12168
07:03:33,240 --> 07:03:34,290
of the decade of multiple

12169
07:03:34,290 --> 07:03:37,900
decades and we really need to

12170
07:03:37,900 --> 07:03:40,900
be willing to take unpopular

12171
07:03:41,200 --> 07:03:42,800
actions that are the right

12172
07:03:42,800 --> 07:03:45,280
thing to do because the reality

12173
07:03:45,280 --> 07:03:47,900
is that this city is so

12174
07:03:47,900 --> 07:03:49,700
unaffordable that people like

12175
07:03:49,700 --> 07:03:52,200
me I'm 24 college student I

12176
07:03:52,200 --> 07:03:53,240
cannot afford to live here if

12177
07:03:53,240 --> 07:03:55,800
things keep getting worse.

12178
07:03:55,800 --> 07:03:57,100
people like me are not a

12179
07:03:57,100 --> 07:04:00,400
rarity. People my age and young

12180
07:04:00,400 --> 07:04:02,900
families are rapidly leaving

12181
07:04:02,900 --> 07:04:03,200
the city and the region for

12182
07:04:03,200 --> 07:04:05,190
lack of affordability. Please

12183
07:04:05,190 --> 07:04:08,190
vote. Thank you. Back to

12184
07:04:08,240 --> 07:04:11,500
council. All right. Thank you,

12185
07:04:11,500 --> 07:04:14,110
toni. Thank you to everyone who

12186
07:04:14,110 --> 07:04:16,120
spoke. We still have a number

12187
07:04:16,120 --> 07:04:17,190
of folks here in the chamber.

12188
07:04:17,190 --> 07:04:18,160
I'm really impressed with

12189
07:04:18,160 --> 07:04:20,110
everyone's wherewithal. It was

12190
07:04:20,110 --> 07:04:23,170
good to hear so many diverse

12191
07:04:23,170 --> 07:04:25,120
perspectives both in person and

12192
07:04:25,120 --> 07:04:27,220
on online. I'm going to may

12193
07:04:27,220 --> 07:04:28,290
make a few comments >> and ask

12194
07:04:28,290 --> 07:04:31,800
a few broader questions to

12195
07:04:31,800 --> 07:04:33,160
frame things up and then turn

12196
07:04:33,160 --> 07:04:36,160
to colleagues. You know, a

12197
07:04:37,180 --> 07:04:38,270
number of residents have asked

12198
07:04:38,270 --> 07:04:39,260
me over the last couple

12199
07:04:39,260 --> 07:04:41,500
of weeks why why are we here?

12200
07:04:41,500 --> 07:04:42,110
what are we what are we doing?

12201
07:04:42,110 --> 07:04:45,110
and >> I think the simplest

12202
07:04:45,250 --> 07:04:47,800
answer chris, I'm going to come

12203
07:04:47,800 --> 07:04:49,100
to you in a second to talk a

12204
07:04:49,100 --> 07:04:51,180
little more about this is that

12205
07:04:51,180 --> 07:04:54,618
we committed to a direction in

12206
07:04:55,100 --> 07:04:56,230
our approved housing element.

12207
07:04:56,230 --> 07:04:59,190
it's worth remembering we had a

12208
07:04:59,190 --> 07:05:00,230
housing element that was not in

12209
07:05:00,230 --> 07:05:02,190
compliance. It took three tries

12210
07:05:02,190 --> 07:05:03,230
and while we were out

12211
07:05:03,230 --> 07:05:06,230
of compliance we had we

12212
07:05:07,110 --> 07:05:08,200
builders remedy essentially

12213
07:05:08,200 --> 07:05:10,140
imposed on the city allowing

12214
07:05:10,140 --> 07:05:12,200
developers to build housing

12215
07:05:12,200 --> 07:05:14,700
even on employment land very

12216
07:05:14,700 --> 07:05:15,150
haphazard development where we

12217
07:05:15,150 --> 07:05:18,150
lost control entirely which is

12218
07:05:19,900 --> 07:05:20,270
a very bad place for the city

12219
07:05:20,270 --> 07:05:23,500
>> to be. And as we came into

12220
07:05:23,500 --> 07:05:26,500
compliance we made a commitment

12221
07:05:26,170 --> 07:05:29,220
to explore some of these more

12222
07:05:29,220 --> 07:05:31,200
modest densities. Now I think

12223
07:05:31,200 --> 07:05:32,240
the community has asked a very

12224
07:05:32,240 --> 07:05:34,900
reasonable question which are

12225
07:05:34,900 --> 07:05:35,150
series of questions which is

12226
07:05:35,150 --> 07:05:36,150
okay, there's been a lot

12227
07:05:36,150 --> 07:05:37,260
of state law that has come down

12228
07:05:37,260 --> 07:05:39,270
our way that has removed local

12229
07:05:39,270 --> 07:05:41,200
control and create a lot

12230
07:05:41,200 --> 07:05:44,110
of mandates. So you have sb 979

12231
07:05:44,110 --> 07:05:46,160
ab 1123 and chris, I think you

12232
07:05:46,160 --> 07:05:48,210
said about 450 bills but those

12233
07:05:48,210 --> 07:05:50,700
are some of the more >>

12234
07:05:50,700 --> 07:05:52,407
consequential ones. And the

12235
07:05:53,120 --> 07:05:56,120
question really is in terms

12236
07:05:56,230 --> 07:05:58,200
of what staff in the planning

12237
07:05:58,200 --> 07:05:59,280
commission are sending to us,

12238
07:05:59,280 --> 07:06:01,120
how different is it from what

12239
07:06:01,120 --> 07:06:04,100
state law already requires and

12240
07:06:04,100 --> 07:06:05,290
where it's different, why and

12241
07:06:05,290 --> 07:06:07,700
really understanding that

12242
07:06:07,700 --> 07:06:08,120
distinction that I think a

12243
07:06:08,120 --> 07:06:09,150
number of people pointed to.

12244
07:06:09,150 --> 07:06:12,120
now I understanding of sb nine

12245
07:06:12,120 --> 07:06:15,290
is that on most single family

12246
07:06:15,290 --> 07:06:19,280
lots in the city today an owner

12247
07:06:19,280 --> 07:06:21,428
a property owner can

12248
07:06:22,300 --> 07:06:24,200
essentially develop four units

12249
07:06:24,200 --> 07:06:27,600
and given that most single

12250
07:06:27,600 --> 07:06:30,600
family lots are around 6000ft²

12251
07:06:32,000 --> 07:06:36,200
we're roughly are in one 8 or 8

12252
07:06:37,210 --> 07:06:40,250
parcels eight lots to the acre.

12253
07:06:40,250 --> 07:06:42,160
four times eight is effectively

12254
07:06:42,160 --> 07:06:45,130
32. So chris, I just >> could

12255
07:06:45,130 --> 07:06:47,700
you comment first of all on how

12256
07:06:47,700 --> 07:06:48,110
much of a change we're talking

12257
07:06:48,110 --> 07:06:50,400
about what state law currently

12258
07:06:50,400 --> 07:06:52,110
allows a property owner to do?

12259
07:06:52,110 --> 07:06:53,700
and what's the difference and

12260
07:06:53,700 --> 07:06:54,180
why are we doing this? Can you

12261
07:06:54,180 --> 07:06:55,220
just go back through that

12262
07:06:55,220 --> 07:06:58,220
again? Yeah. Thanks, mayor. And

12263
07:06:59,150 --> 07:07:01,240
you have it right? So in the

12264
07:07:01,240 --> 07:07:03,900
prior house in our current

12265
07:07:03,900 --> 07:07:05,500
housing element we committed to

12266
07:07:05,500 --> 07:07:06,110
a missing middle program and

12267
07:07:06,110 --> 07:07:07,270
this actually dates back prior

12268
07:07:07,270 --> 07:07:09,400
to the development of a housing

12269
07:07:09,400 --> 07:07:11,800
element. If you'll recall

12270
07:07:11,800 --> 07:07:13,160
roughly five plus years ago

12271
07:07:13,160 --> 07:07:14,220
there was a conversation around

12272
07:07:14,220 --> 07:07:15,160
what was called at the time

12273
07:07:15,160 --> 07:07:17,416
opportunity housing. And the

12274
07:07:18,100 --> 07:07:19,180
council declined to move

12275
07:07:19,180 --> 07:07:20,280
forward at that time with that

12276
07:07:20,280 --> 07:07:23,280
proposal because sb nine was

12277
07:07:24,140 --> 07:07:25,180
coming into effect and the

12278
07:07:25,180 --> 07:07:26,290
thought was well let's see how

12279
07:07:26,290 --> 07:07:30,100
sb nine goes and you know we

12280
07:07:30,100 --> 07:07:32,900
can see what the implementation

12281
07:07:32,900 --> 07:07:33,140
looks like and what the impact

12282
07:07:33,140 --> 07:07:35,280
to our neighborhoods is. And as

12283
07:07:35,280 --> 07:07:37,300
>> a result, as we then moved

12284
07:07:37,300 --> 07:07:39,150
into our housing element

12285
07:07:39,150 --> 07:07:41,100
process and started to right

12286
07:07:41,100 --> 07:07:42,500
the housing element we are a

12287
07:07:42,500 --> 07:07:44,800
clear indication from hpd that

12288
07:07:44,800 --> 07:07:46,700
they wanted to see a missing

12289
07:07:46,700 --> 07:07:48,230
middle program pursued. >> and

12290
07:07:48,230 --> 07:07:50,240
they were very direct about

12291
07:07:50,240 --> 07:07:52,600
that and you know, they wanted

12292
07:07:52,600 --> 07:07:53,170
to put performance standards

12293
07:07:53,170 --> 07:07:54,230
around that and a timeline

12294
07:07:54,230 --> 07:07:56,260
which are all included in our

12295
07:07:56,260 --> 07:07:58,270
housing element. So you know

12296
07:07:58,270 --> 07:08:00,100
we're about midway through this

12297
07:08:00,100 --> 07:08:01,210
cycle we need to start

12298
07:08:01,210 --> 07:08:03,270
delivering on these programs.

12299
07:08:03,270 --> 07:08:04,200
you know, we've done a

12300
07:08:04,200 --> 07:08:05,200
significant amount of work

12301
07:08:05,200 --> 07:08:06,180
that's led to a lot

12302
07:08:06,180 --> 07:08:08,250
of implementation but this is

12303
07:08:08,250 --> 07:08:10,700
one of the major factors this

12304
07:08:10,700 --> 07:08:11,170
in the urban village strategy.

12305
07:08:11,170 --> 07:08:13,900
so as you approach this four

12306
07:08:13,900 --> 07:08:15,140
year review, you know, we

12307
07:08:15,140 --> 07:08:17,120
wanted to be considerate of the

12308
07:08:17,120 --> 07:08:19,150
current condition. We wanted to

12309
07:08:19,150 --> 07:08:21,150
think about a solution that did

12310
07:08:21,150 --> 07:08:23,110
help preserve the character

12311
07:08:23,110 --> 07:08:24,150
of single family neighborhoods

12312
07:08:24,150 --> 07:08:27,000
when we wrote our general plan.

12313
07:08:27,000 --> 07:08:28,230
a number of the speakers this

12314
07:08:28,230 --> 07:08:29,290
evening have been absolutely

12315
07:08:29,290 --> 07:08:31,429
correct. We prioritized high

12316
07:08:32,400 --> 07:08:34,200
intensity, high density

12317
07:08:34,200 --> 07:08:35,140
development along transit

12318
07:08:35,140 --> 07:08:37,260
corridors and in growth areas.

12319
07:08:37,260 --> 07:08:38,230
and part of the challenges we

12320
07:08:38,230 --> 07:08:40,150
have not seen all of that

12321
07:08:40,150 --> 07:08:41,240
development occur because

12322
07:08:41,240 --> 07:08:42,250
of economics and some of these

12323
07:08:42,250 --> 07:08:44,200
other reasons. So you know,

12324
07:08:44,200 --> 07:08:46,200
part of our approach is we know

12325
07:08:46,200 --> 07:08:48,150
we need to provide a great

12326
07:08:48,150 --> 07:08:50,400
variety >> in the types

12327
07:08:50,400 --> 07:08:51,280
of housing that the market can

12328
07:08:51,280 --> 07:08:53,428
>> achieve that respects and

12329
07:08:55,120 --> 07:08:56,170
preserves the character.

12330
07:08:56,170 --> 07:08:57,290
everything of our single family

12331
07:08:57,290 --> 07:08:59,160
neighborhoods. So we have a

12332
07:08:59,160 --> 07:09:00,160
situation where we're looking

12333
07:09:00,160 --> 07:09:02,110
at this program. We also have a

12334
07:09:02,110 --> 07:09:03,140
number of state laws that have

12335
07:09:03,140 --> 07:09:04,170
been implemented and you're

12336
07:09:04,170 --> 07:09:05,280
absolutely right on the density

12337
07:09:05,280 --> 07:09:08,000
question so under sb nine there

12338
07:09:08,000 --> 07:09:09,110
is the opportunity for four

12339
07:09:09,110 --> 07:09:11,270
primary units in the context

12340
07:09:11,270 --> 07:09:13,200
of to duplexes on one single

12341
07:09:13,200 --> 07:09:15,600
family existing single family

12342
07:09:15,600 --> 07:09:17,160
line. And so we felt like we

12343
07:09:17,160 --> 07:09:19,900
could create a program in the

12344
07:09:19,900 --> 07:09:21,290
city that sort of maintains and

12345
07:09:21,290 --> 07:09:24,200
or was parallel to what sb nine

12346
07:09:24,200 --> 07:09:26,900
would allow but that we could

12347
07:09:26,900 --> 07:09:28,270
design with the context of more

12348
07:09:28,270 --> 07:09:30,190
local design standards and

12349
07:09:30,190 --> 07:09:32,180
controls that would allow us to

12350
07:09:32,180 --> 07:09:33,250
sort of help preserve that

12351
07:09:33,250 --> 07:09:34,270
single family neighborhood

12352
07:09:34,270 --> 07:09:36,180
character. So that's the

12353
07:09:36,180 --> 07:09:38,110
approach that we took. You

12354
07:09:38,110 --> 07:09:39,110
know, we believe that that's

12355
07:09:39,110 --> 07:09:41,250
consistent with the spirit

12356
07:09:41,250 --> 07:09:44,100
of p35 in the housing element.

12357
07:09:44,100 --> 07:09:45,250
but sort of gets us the best

12358
07:09:45,250 --> 07:09:47,120
of both worlds but doesn't

12359
07:09:47,120 --> 07:09:48,240
really extend much beyond what

12360
07:09:48,240 --> 07:09:49,250
you can do on the state level.

12361
07:09:49,250 --> 07:09:51,800
>> okay. Thanks. Can you just

12362
07:09:51,800 --> 07:09:52,140
say the last part again if you

12363
07:09:52,140 --> 07:09:54,414
already today in most

12364
07:09:55,000 --> 07:09:57,000
residential neighborhoods can

12365
07:09:57,600 --> 07:10:00,200
buy a parcel and under state

12366
07:10:00,200 --> 07:10:02,900
law convert it to four to

12367
07:10:02,900 --> 07:10:05,200
redevelop it to four >> units

12368
07:10:05,200 --> 07:10:06,180
which we've seen a few examples

12369
07:10:06,180 --> 07:10:08,100
of but not a lot. My guess is

12370
07:10:08,100 --> 07:10:10,000
that doesn't actually pencil in

12371
07:10:10,000 --> 07:10:13,120
a lot of places but if you can

12372
07:10:13,120 --> 07:10:15,150
that's effectively 32 units to

12373
07:10:15,150 --> 07:10:16,170
the acre. So what's the

12374
07:10:16,170 --> 07:10:18,130
difference? And what you're

12375
07:10:18,130 --> 07:10:20,000
saying there's an advantage to

12376
07:10:20,000 --> 07:10:21,210
having >> this path rather than

12377
07:10:21,210 --> 07:10:23,130
sb nine. So we >> think there's

12378
07:10:23,130 --> 07:10:24,190
an advantage from the city's

12379
07:10:24,190 --> 07:10:26,170
perspective because it allows

12380
07:10:26,170 --> 07:10:28,100
us to implement design

12381
07:10:28,100 --> 07:10:29,170
standards that sort of a more

12382
07:10:29,170 --> 07:10:30,180
respectful of the neighborhood

12383
07:10:30,180 --> 07:10:33,900
character. I think the broader

12384
07:10:33,900 --> 07:10:35,200
policy objective of allowing a

12385
07:10:35,200 --> 07:10:38,220
local program is that there is

12386
07:10:38,220 --> 07:10:40,120
probably more market desire to

12387
07:10:40,120 --> 07:10:41,200
pursue this than some of the

12388
07:10:41,200 --> 07:10:43,800
restrictions that exist under

12389
07:10:43,800 --> 07:10:45,150
sb nine. So right now there's a

12390
07:10:45,150 --> 07:10:47,200
residency requirement, right?

12391
07:10:47,200 --> 07:10:49,170
so somebody who owns the law

12392
07:10:49,170 --> 07:10:50,250
has to stay in residence for

12393
07:10:50,250 --> 07:10:53,000
two years post development. And

12394
07:10:53,000 --> 07:10:54,100
that's been a significant

12395
07:10:54,100 --> 07:10:55,300
barrier to a lot of the people

12396
07:10:55,300 --> 07:10:56,100
that have explored sb nine as

12397
07:10:56,100 --> 07:10:58,410
an opportunity to >> couple

12398
07:11:00,600 --> 07:11:02,200
other issues adjacent to that I

12399
07:11:02,200 --> 07:11:05,200
would like to better understand

12400
07:11:05,200 --> 07:11:08,160
what mergers and whether or not

12401
07:11:08,160 --> 07:11:10,110
that >> is you kind

12402
07:11:10,110 --> 07:11:11,230
of reference to quickly as a

12403
07:11:11,230 --> 07:11:13,200
potential tool that council

12404
07:11:13,200 --> 07:11:14,400
might want to explore and I

12405
07:11:14,400 --> 07:11:15,220
think for context for the

12406
07:11:15,220 --> 07:11:17,170
public this is the first time

12407
07:11:17,170 --> 07:11:18,150
these recommendations are

12408
07:11:18,150 --> 07:11:19,180
coming to the council. There's

12409
07:11:19,180 --> 07:11:21,150
been a process where I'm going

12410
07:11:21,150 --> 07:11:22,210
to talk about the process and

12411
07:11:22,210 --> 07:11:24,100
public input in a moment as

12412
07:11:24,100 --> 07:11:26,280
well. But this is the first

12413
07:11:26,280 --> 07:11:27,240
time we're having this

12414
07:11:27,240 --> 07:11:29,000
conversation at this set

12415
07:11:29,000 --> 07:11:30,260
of recommendations that would

12416
07:11:30,260 --> 07:11:32,190
come back to the council in

12417
07:11:32,190 --> 07:11:34,250
over a year from now. So we are

12418
07:11:34,250 --> 07:11:36,240
not at the end of the

12419
07:11:36,240 --> 07:11:37,270
conversation. I want to be

12420
07:11:37,270 --> 07:11:40,627
really clear about that. On lot

12421
07:11:41,000 --> 07:11:43,200
mergers >> and to use so how to

12422
07:11:43,200 --> 07:11:44,210
add use count in the unit count

12423
07:11:44,210 --> 07:11:45,270
and what should we take from

12424
07:11:45,270 --> 07:11:47,270
that and and what is the risk

12425
07:11:47,270 --> 07:11:49,400
of what mergers or is that

12426
07:11:49,400 --> 07:11:50,240
maybe a restriction that

12427
07:11:50,240 --> 07:11:51,230
council might want to have in

12428
07:11:51,230 --> 07:11:53,250
its toolkit? So >> just to

12429
07:11:53,250 --> 07:11:54,290
start with lot mergers that is

12430
07:11:54,290 --> 07:11:56,110
something that we have the

12431
07:11:56,110 --> 07:11:58,130
ability to put standards in

12432
07:11:58,130 --> 07:12:00,150
place so we can you know,

12433
07:12:00,150 --> 07:12:02,500
restrict the ability to merge

12434
07:12:02,500 --> 07:12:04,250
logs. We can have restrictions

12435
07:12:04,250 --> 07:12:06,270
around lot sizes as well to say

12436
07:12:06,270 --> 07:12:07,230
that you can only do this

12437
07:12:07,230 --> 07:12:09,200
development on a certain size

12438
07:12:09,200 --> 07:12:10,200
that stops people from

12439
07:12:10,200 --> 07:12:11,220
aggregating so >> big corporate

12440
07:12:11,220 --> 07:12:13,200
developer can't come in you

12441
07:12:13,200 --> 07:12:16,300
know merge together, roll up 8

12442
07:12:16,300 --> 07:12:17,290
or 10 single family homes and

12443
07:12:17,290 --> 07:12:20,130
build some massive you know,

12444
07:12:20,130 --> 07:12:22,200
connecting on the middle of oc.

12445
07:12:22,200 --> 07:12:24,230
that seems important. So right

12446
07:12:24,230 --> 07:12:27,700
now >> as it relates to edu law

12447
07:12:27,700 --> 07:12:28,290
and one of the challenges again

12448
07:12:28,290 --> 07:12:31,210
by what we've seen both in

12449
07:12:31,210 --> 07:12:32,270
single family neighborhoods and

12450
07:12:32,270 --> 07:12:34,240
with multifamily development is

12451
07:12:34,240 --> 07:12:36,290
you know adu law tends to layer

12452
07:12:36,290 --> 07:12:39,629
on top of local provisions and

12453
07:12:41,140 --> 07:12:42,140
people are using that in

12454
07:12:42,140 --> 07:12:43,210
multiple different ways and

12455
07:12:43,210 --> 07:12:46,500
obviously there's a there's

12456
07:12:46,500 --> 07:12:47,160
much more much less

12457
07:12:47,160 --> 07:12:48,230
restrictions we can put in

12458
07:12:48,230 --> 07:12:51,700
place on adus. You know,

12459
07:12:51,700 --> 07:12:52,700
certainly they can build in

12460
07:12:52,700 --> 07:12:54,000
reduced setbacks. They require

12461
07:12:54,000 --> 07:12:56,170
no parking. The standards there

12462
07:12:56,170 --> 07:12:58,900
are very different. So in

12463
07:12:58,900 --> 07:13:00,900
theory, you know, adus sit on

12464
07:13:00,900 --> 07:13:02,300
top of whatever requirement we

12465
07:13:02,300 --> 07:13:04,160
create in our end. I think

12466
07:13:04,160 --> 07:13:07,200
again from our approach is to

12467
07:13:07,200 --> 07:13:09,600
design standards that encourage

12468
07:13:09,600 --> 07:13:11,180
the market to deliver a type

12469
07:13:11,180 --> 07:13:12,250
of development similar to the

12470
07:13:12,250 --> 07:13:14,900
types of you know, examples

12471
07:13:14,900 --> 07:13:15,100
that we showed in the

12472
07:13:15,100 --> 07:13:16,130
photographs. And what you'll

12473
07:13:16,130 --> 07:13:18,300


12474
07:13:18,300 --> 07:13:20,400
the utilizing the lot for the

12475
07:13:20,400 --> 07:13:22,700
four units or the three units

12476
07:13:22,700 --> 07:13:24,100
and it reduces the opportunity

12477
07:13:24,100 --> 07:13:26,140
to leverage edu as a you know

12478
07:13:26,140 --> 07:13:28,000
an additional sort of capacity

12479
07:13:28,000 --> 07:13:30,180
gain. Okay. Thanks. >> I think

12480
07:13:30,180 --> 07:13:31,260
given the way the state

12481
07:13:31,260 --> 07:13:33,400
interprets ada use and the

12482
07:13:33,400 --> 07:13:35,500
count as in not counting them

12483
07:13:35,500 --> 07:13:36,130
though they do count toward our

12484
07:13:36,130 --> 07:13:37,240
arena target so there seems to

12485
07:13:37,240 --> 07:13:39,110
be quite a discrepancy here in

12486
07:13:39,110 --> 07:13:41,100
how the state is as counting

12487
07:13:41,100 --> 07:13:42,280
need to use it yes in one case

12488
07:13:42,280 --> 07:13:45,400
not in another. But I think

12489
07:13:45,400 --> 07:13:46,130
that's part of the motivation

12490
07:13:46,130 --> 07:13:47,220
for our group member to say

12491
07:13:47,220 --> 07:13:49,150
let's look at a range. Let's

12492
07:13:49,150 --> 07:13:51,160
look at 16 to 32. Our member

12493
07:13:51,160 --> 07:13:54,130
also does speak to parking

12494
07:13:54,130 --> 07:13:55,150
requirements. We're allowed by

12495
07:13:55,150 --> 07:13:57,200
state law and the reality is in

12496
07:13:57,200 --> 07:13:58,250
much of the city we are

12497
07:13:58,250 --> 07:14:00,160
preempted by state law and not

12498
07:14:00,160 --> 07:14:02,200
allowed to impose a parking

12499
07:14:02,200 --> 07:14:04,190
requirement. And san jose was

12500
07:14:04,190 --> 07:14:06,160
actually a leader in removing

12501
07:14:06,160 --> 07:14:07,290
parking requirements. But

12502
07:14:07,290 --> 07:14:09,150
really if you were here for

12503
07:14:09,150 --> 07:14:10,270
that conversation it was in the

12504
07:14:10,270 --> 07:14:13,270
context largely of our downtown

12505
07:14:15,600 --> 07:14:17,000
urban villages near transit

12506
07:14:17,000 --> 07:14:19,000
multi-family denser development

12507
07:14:19,290 --> 07:14:20,200
where I remember very

12508
07:14:20,200 --> 07:14:22,140
distinctly one of the big

12509
07:14:22,140 --> 07:14:23,180
things we were pointing to

12510
07:14:23,180 --> 07:14:25,130
which I think still is is very

12511
07:14:25,130 --> 07:14:26,140
valid is the notion

12512
07:14:26,140 --> 07:14:28,300
of unbundled parking. If you

12513
07:14:28,300 --> 07:14:29,280
have an office building next to

12514
07:14:29,280 --> 07:14:32,628
an apartment or condo tower you

12515
07:14:33,400 --> 07:14:33,270
might be able to share the

12516
07:14:33,270 --> 07:14:35,500
parking because people need to

12517
07:14:35,500 --> 07:14:36,170
park at home at night in the

12518
07:14:36,170 --> 07:14:38,100
apartment building and maybe

12519
07:14:38,100 --> 07:14:40,300
park where they work and so you

12520
07:14:40,300 --> 07:14:40,280
could actually make more

12521
07:14:40,280 --> 07:14:42,180
efficient use of unbundled

12522
07:14:42,180 --> 07:14:43,160
parking in a place like

12523
07:14:43,160 --> 07:14:45,900
downtown or urban village. I

12524
07:14:45,900 --> 07:14:47,270
think when you get out into

12525
07:14:47,270 --> 07:14:48,280
councilmember ortiz's district

12526
07:14:48,280 --> 07:14:51,000
where I have walked many times

12527
07:14:51,000 --> 07:14:52,290
and seen families coming home

12528
07:14:52,290 --> 07:14:53,200
you know, people going home

12529
07:14:53,200 --> 07:14:55,200
from a second job having to

12530
07:14:55,200 --> 07:14:57,200
park six blocks from their home

12531
07:14:57,200 --> 07:14:59,400
every night to know that it is

12532
07:14:59,400 --> 07:15:00,300
something that when you get out

12533
07:15:00,300 --> 07:15:01,150
to the periphery of our city

12534
07:15:01,150 --> 07:15:02,280
you really need to be thinking

12535
07:15:02,280 --> 07:15:04,120
about that impact on people's

12536
07:15:04,120 --> 07:15:06,100
lives. I would say for I know

12537
07:15:06,100 --> 07:15:07,210
we have a number of very pro

12538
07:15:07,210 --> 07:15:09,190
housing folks who spoken and I

12539
07:15:09,190 --> 07:15:11,700
you know, often find myself

12540
07:15:11,700 --> 07:15:12,160
very aligned with that

12541
07:15:12,160 --> 07:15:15,616
perspective. I do think that we

12542
07:15:16,210 --> 07:15:17,180
shouldn't be overly

12543
07:15:17,180 --> 07:15:19,210
ideologically rigid about the

12544
07:15:19,210 --> 07:15:21,100
notion that we should never

12545
07:15:21,100 --> 07:15:22,900
have any kind of parking

12546
07:15:22,900 --> 07:15:23,700
requirement anywhere in the

12547
07:15:23,700 --> 07:15:24,150
city. I think that's that's

12548
07:15:24,150 --> 07:15:26,150
overly overly broad. So our

12549
07:15:26,150 --> 07:15:27,260
memo says let's let's study

12550
07:15:27,260 --> 07:15:29,250
that. I really appreciate the

12551
07:15:29,250 --> 07:15:32,180
group memo pointing to density

12552
07:15:32,180 --> 07:15:35,170
in fire high fire risk zones I

12553
07:15:35,170 --> 07:15:36,150
thought that was a really

12554
07:15:36,150 --> 07:15:38,415
thoughtful inclusion. I do

12555
07:15:39,600 --> 07:15:40,900
think we should be looking

12556
07:15:40,900 --> 07:15:42,160
at at lot mergers. So I think

12557
07:15:42,160 --> 07:15:43,230
what our memo and I think

12558
07:15:43,230 --> 07:15:46,400
colleagues memos point to is

12559
07:15:46,400 --> 07:15:47,170
some areas where we really

12560
07:15:47,170 --> 07:15:50,180
ought to study the notion that

12561
07:15:50,180 --> 07:15:52,120
we can be super dense in

12562
07:15:52,120 --> 07:15:54,600
downtown in urban villages and

12563
07:15:54,600 --> 07:15:56,500
then kind of have that go down

12564
07:15:56,500 --> 07:15:57,120
as you go out and start to

12565
07:15:57,120 --> 07:15:58,230
think about some of those other

12566
07:15:58,230 --> 07:16:00,200
impacts I will say I'm really

12567
07:16:00,200 --> 07:16:01,120
proud of all the actions this

12568
07:16:01,120 --> 07:16:03,000
council has taken to be

12569
07:16:03,000 --> 07:16:05,400
extremely pro housing removing

12570
07:16:07,700 --> 07:16:09,407
the you know increasing

12571
07:16:10,210 --> 07:16:13,200
capacity in in our plant growth

12572
07:16:13,200 --> 07:16:14,240
areas, removing the

12573
07:16:14,240 --> 07:16:16,800
construction tax, having to

12574
07:16:16,800 --> 07:16:18,000
park fees, removing the

12575
07:16:18,000 --> 07:16:20,000
unfunded inclusion requirement,

12576
07:16:21,000 --> 07:16:22,300
moving to ministerial

12577
07:16:22,300 --> 07:16:23,400
approvals, getting rid

12578
07:16:23,400 --> 07:16:24,210
of parking requirements. We

12579
07:16:24,210 --> 07:16:26,900
have led so many times on

12580
07:16:26,900 --> 07:16:29,100
saying yes to housing but I do

12581
07:16:29,100 --> 07:16:30,110
think that we need to really be

12582
07:16:30,110 --> 07:16:32,100
thoughtful about how we manage

12583
07:16:32,100 --> 07:16:33,180
change out in our

12584
07:16:33,180 --> 07:16:34,180
neighborhoods. So as was

12585
07:16:34,180 --> 07:16:36,400
pointed out in many cases state

12586
07:16:36,400 --> 07:16:38,110
laws have already dictated a

12587
07:16:38,110 --> 07:16:39,180
density level that you're not

12588
07:16:39,180 --> 07:16:40,270
recommending we go beyond I

12589
07:16:40,270 --> 07:16:42,700
don't think the public really

12590
07:16:42,700 --> 07:16:43,160
understands that which gets to

12591
07:16:43,160 --> 07:16:45,220
my last point. Public input.

12592
07:16:45,220 --> 07:16:47,100
can you just share with us up

12593
07:16:47,100 --> 07:16:49,200
to this point as you went

12594
07:16:49,200 --> 07:16:50,800
through the initial stage

12595
07:16:50,800 --> 07:16:51,600
of the process with the

12596
07:16:51,600 --> 07:16:52,150
planning commission and came

12597
07:16:52,150 --> 07:16:53,130
here to the council for the

12598
07:16:53,130 --> 07:16:54,800
first time with your

12599
07:16:54,800 --> 07:16:56,800
recommendation, what kind

12600
07:16:56,110 --> 07:16:57,190
of community engagement and

12601
07:16:57,190 --> 07:17:00,190
public input you you organized

12602
07:17:01,120 --> 07:17:03,300
and what we can expect over the

12603
07:17:03,300 --> 07:17:05,190
next year as this continues to

12604
07:17:05,190 --> 07:17:07,190
develop. >> yeah it

12605
07:17:07,210 --> 07:17:08,170
sounds great. Let mahan over to

12606
07:17:08,170 --> 07:17:09,280
ruth to talk through public

12607
07:17:09,280 --> 07:17:12,300
outreach and then maybe circle

12608
07:17:12,300 --> 07:17:15,200
back on what to expect. Thank

12609
07:17:15,200 --> 07:17:18,200
>> you mayor so staff in

12610
07:17:18,240 --> 07:17:19,270
partnership with the office

12611
07:17:19,270 --> 07:17:21,120
of racial and social equity and

12612
07:17:21,120 --> 07:17:22,190
our community engagement

12613
07:17:22,190 --> 07:17:24,180
consultant kicked off our

12614
07:17:24,180 --> 07:17:25,250
outreach strategy that we

12615
07:17:25,250 --> 07:17:26,290
discussed with council and

12616
07:17:26,290 --> 07:17:29,230
council approved last year. We

12617
07:17:29,230 --> 07:17:32,230
began with a virtual webinar.

12618
07:17:32,280 --> 07:17:34,170
we also employed different

12619
07:17:34,170 --> 07:17:36,300
methods to reach out to people

12620
07:17:36,300 --> 07:17:37,260
so we had four in-person open

12621
07:17:37,260 --> 07:17:40,500
houses across the city really

12622
07:17:40,500 --> 07:17:42,600
targeting communities that we

12623
07:17:42,600 --> 07:17:45,300
don't often hear from. We had

12624
07:17:45,300 --> 07:17:47,000
several leadership meetings six

12625
07:17:47,000 --> 07:17:47,270
I think it might be seven

12626
07:17:47,270 --> 07:17:49,170
actually we had our town hall

12627
07:17:49,170 --> 07:17:51,110
last week seven neighborhood

12628
07:17:51,110 --> 07:17:53,270
meetings with the office

12629
07:17:53,270 --> 07:17:55,200
of racial and social equity. We

12630
07:17:55,200 --> 07:17:56,190
were able to host three focus

12631
07:17:56,190 --> 07:17:59,200
groups. In addition, we had our

12632
07:17:59,200 --> 07:18:00,150
task force meetings which

12633
07:18:00,150 --> 07:18:02,240
allowed for public comment. I

12634
07:18:02,240 --> 07:18:03,290
think after the first meeting

12635
07:18:03,290 --> 07:18:05,290
public comment was taken before

12636
07:18:05,290 --> 07:18:07,290
the task force sort

12637
07:18:07,290 --> 07:18:09,000
of deliberated and gave us

12638
07:18:09,000 --> 07:18:10,280
their feedback. We met with

12639
07:18:10,280 --> 07:18:12,280
intergovernmental agencies and

12640
07:18:13,700 --> 07:18:17,230
also we sort of did our online

12641
07:18:17,230 --> 07:18:20,623
sort of email blasts and our >>

12642
07:18:21,600 --> 07:18:23,130
virtual open house. I will say

12643
07:18:23,130 --> 07:18:24,240
through our four in-person

12644
07:18:24,240 --> 07:18:27,110
houses we did touch sort

12645
07:18:27,110 --> 07:18:29,110
of communicate with over 800

12646
07:18:29,110 --> 07:18:30,160
residents and people in the

12647
07:18:30,160 --> 07:18:32,900
city. One of these open houses

12648
07:18:32,900 --> 07:18:33,270
was at veeva. So that's the one

12649
07:18:33,270 --> 07:18:35,300
where we actually were able to

12650
07:18:35,300 --> 07:18:36,280
talk to the most most of the

12651
07:18:36,280 --> 07:18:39,000
community and we had roughly

12652
07:18:39,000 --> 07:18:41,300
400 participants in the virtual

12653
07:18:41,300 --> 07:18:43,120
open house. >> thanks, ruth.

12654
07:18:43,120 --> 07:18:45,120
and then from this point

12655
07:18:45,120 --> 07:18:46,260
forward, whatever direction we

12656
07:18:46,260 --> 07:18:48,260
ultimately settle on here

12657
07:18:48,260 --> 07:18:50,500
you've got a process that runs

12658
07:18:50,500 --> 07:18:52,140
more than a year presumably

12659
07:18:52,140 --> 07:18:54,700
before we take a final vote on

12660
07:18:54,700 --> 07:18:57,110
where we are. What does that

12661
07:18:57,110 --> 07:18:58,210
community engagement look like

12662
07:18:58,210 --> 07:18:59,230
? Right. There's a number

12663
07:18:59,230 --> 07:19:01,700
of different opportunities for

12664
07:19:01,700 --> 07:19:02,170
us to engage the community both

12665
07:19:02,170 --> 07:19:04,900
in the formal process as we get

12666
07:19:04,900 --> 07:19:05,180
launch our environmental

12667
07:19:05,180 --> 07:19:06,200
process that has, you know,

12668
07:19:06,200 --> 07:19:08,210
very prescriptive elements as

12669
07:19:08,210 --> 07:19:11,000
well as sort of more of the

12670
07:19:11,000 --> 07:19:12,200
community engagement and

12671
07:19:12,200 --> 07:19:13,150
participation opportunities

12672
07:19:13,150 --> 07:19:15,110
that we'll be looking to craft

12673
07:19:15,110 --> 07:19:16,250
as we develop those standards

12674
07:19:16,250 --> 07:19:18,600
so we can create regular

12675
07:19:18,600 --> 07:19:20,200
touchpoints. We don't have all

12676
07:19:20,200 --> 07:19:21,260
of those aspects foley fleshed

12677
07:19:21,260 --> 07:19:22,190
out but I think we're going to

12678
07:19:22,190 --> 07:19:23,270
be looking for opportunities to

12679
07:19:23,270 --> 07:19:25,260
engage with partner departments

12680
07:19:25,260 --> 07:19:27,220
to continue to sort of spread

12681
07:19:27,220 --> 07:19:29,000
the opportunity to talk about

12682
07:19:29,000 --> 07:19:31,100
this as well as engaging with

12683
07:19:31,100 --> 07:19:33,100
those groups that we've managed

12684
07:19:33,100 --> 07:19:34,180
to reach through our process so

12685
07:19:34,180 --> 07:19:36,210
far to keep them you know,

12686
07:19:36,210 --> 07:19:38,160
engaged in this and allow them

12687
07:19:38,160 --> 07:19:39,280
to provide additional feedback

12688
07:19:39,280 --> 07:19:42,200
as we go. >> okay. And sorry to

12689
07:19:42,200 --> 07:19:42,290
put you on the spot with this

12690
07:19:42,290 --> 07:19:45,500
but does ppc have the capacity

12691
07:19:45,500 --> 07:19:46,180
to manage all that public

12692
07:19:46,180 --> 07:19:47,260
engagement? Do we need to talk

12693
07:19:47,260 --> 07:19:49,210
about what else as one team the

12694
07:19:49,210 --> 07:19:50,260
administration might do to

12695
07:19:50,260 --> 07:19:52,120
support a robust public

12696
07:19:52,120 --> 07:19:53,200
engagement process over the

12697
07:19:53,200 --> 07:19:55,220
next year? Yeah, absolutely. I

12698
07:19:55,220 --> 07:19:56,150
think obviously we're going to

12699
07:19:56,150 --> 07:19:57,210
look for those opportunities.

12700
07:19:57,210 --> 07:19:58,220
you know, with the city

12701
07:19:58,220 --> 07:20:00,600
manager's office we've had a

12702
07:20:00,600 --> 07:20:02,270
great partnership with the

12703
07:20:02,270 --> 07:20:04,800
office of racial and social

12704
07:20:04,800 --> 07:20:06,130
equity on our outreach so far.

12705
07:20:06,130 --> 07:20:07,170
and then as I said, I think

12706
07:20:07,170 --> 07:20:08,150
some of those other partner

12707
07:20:08,150 --> 07:20:09,180
departments that are also

12708
07:20:09,180 --> 07:20:10,220
consistently out with the

12709
07:20:10,220 --> 07:20:12,600
community they represent a

12710
07:20:12,600 --> 07:20:13,200
great opportunity for us to

12711
07:20:13,200 --> 07:20:16,120
partner and tag along to spread

12712
07:20:16,120 --> 07:20:18,150
sort of more engagement and

12713
07:20:18,150 --> 07:20:19,130
more information about what

12714
07:20:19,130 --> 07:20:20,200
we're doing. >> yeah, I just I

12715
07:20:20,200 --> 07:20:21,160
really don't want to be here a

12716
07:20:21,160 --> 07:20:23,000
year from now and have people

12717
07:20:23,000 --> 07:20:24,200
feel like they were not aware

12718
07:20:24,200 --> 07:20:25,120
that we were having this

12719
07:20:25,120 --> 07:20:26,270
conversation. So I just hope

12720
07:20:26,270 --> 07:20:28,150
jennifer the spirit

12721
07:20:28,150 --> 07:20:29,290
of leveraging the whole

12722
07:20:29,290 --> 07:20:31,110
capacity of the administration

12723
07:20:31,110 --> 07:20:33,600
that will find more ways to to

12724
07:20:33,600 --> 07:20:34,180
engage the public. I said that

12725
07:20:34,180 --> 07:20:35,180
was my last point. Just very

12726
07:20:35,180 --> 07:20:37,210
quickly though, chris, I do

12727
07:20:37,210 --> 07:20:38,230
want to know more about your

12728
07:20:38,230 --> 07:20:40,120
conversations with side the

12729
07:20:40,120 --> 07:20:41,220
risk of decertification. I

12730
07:20:41,220 --> 07:20:42,240
understand you said you just

12731
07:20:42,240 --> 07:20:44,130
had a call with them. What is

12732
07:20:44,130 --> 07:20:47,160
your sense of what they're

12733
07:20:47,160 --> 07:20:49,110
essentially are our obligations

12734
07:20:49,110 --> 07:20:51,800
are to stay compliant and what

12735
07:20:51,800 --> 07:20:53,110
would avoid decertification and

12736
07:20:53,110 --> 07:20:54,250
going back to builder's remedy

12737
07:20:54,250 --> 07:20:55,210
which I think we all want to

12738
07:20:55,210 --> 07:20:57,421
avoid. >> yeah. So obviously,

12739
07:20:59,000 --> 07:21:00,900
you know, this is really staff

12740
07:21:00,900 --> 07:21:02,210
level guidance. We reach out to

12741
07:21:02,210 --> 07:21:03,260
each side and work with them on

12742
07:21:03,260 --> 07:21:05,180
a fairly regular basis around

12743
07:21:05,180 --> 07:21:07,200
project issues and policy

12744
07:21:07,200 --> 07:21:09,100
issues. So they do make

12745
07:21:09,100 --> 07:21:10,700
themselves available when we

12746
07:21:10,700 --> 07:21:12,150
need to talk through this. So I

12747
07:21:12,150 --> 07:21:15,800
reached out end of last week I

12748
07:21:15,800 --> 07:21:17,170
was on a call with one of the

12749
07:21:17,170 --> 07:21:19,130
senior program managers with

12750
07:21:19,130 --> 07:21:21,120
each side on monday just

12751
07:21:21,120 --> 07:21:22,210
because we wanted to discuss,

12752
07:21:22,210 --> 07:21:23,180
you know, this item coming

12753
07:21:23,180 --> 07:21:25,290
forward to city council and

12754
07:21:25,290 --> 07:21:27,900
just get a sense of how they

12755
07:21:27,900 --> 07:21:29,000
might view, you know, an

12756
07:21:29,000 --> 07:21:30,270
alternate proposal based on

12757
07:21:30,270 --> 07:21:32,000
some of the memos that we were

12758
07:21:32,000 --> 07:21:33,100
seeing coming through from

12759
07:21:33,100 --> 07:21:35,800
council. Like I said, it's

12760
07:21:35,800 --> 07:21:36,190
staff level guidance. It's

12761
07:21:36,190 --> 07:21:38,260
certainly not a written opinion

12762
07:21:38,260 --> 07:21:40,250
by cdd. I think there's a

12763
07:21:40,250 --> 07:21:42,200
couple of important things that

12764
07:21:42,200 --> 07:21:43,170
came from that conversation. So

12765
07:21:43,170 --> 07:21:45,100
one is they look at our missing

12766
07:21:45,100 --> 07:21:47,190
middle program. Really the

12767
07:21:47,190 --> 07:21:49,250
focus is creating opportunities

12768
07:21:49,250 --> 07:21:52,130
for diverse housing in high

12769
07:21:52,130 --> 07:21:54,600
opportunity areas areas where

12770
07:21:54,600 --> 07:21:56,200
they don't currently exist.

12771
07:21:56,200 --> 07:21:58,900
there's a chart we used in I

12772
07:21:58,900 --> 07:21:59,250
think a study session and in

12773
07:21:59,250 --> 07:22:01,600
some of the other presentations

12774
07:22:01,600 --> 07:22:02,100
we've done that really

12775
07:22:02,100 --> 07:22:04,300
highlights that you know it

12776
07:22:04,300 --> 07:22:05,160
really is a missing middle.

12777
07:22:05,160 --> 07:22:06,230
there's a huge gap around these

12778
07:22:06,230 --> 07:22:08,800
types of housing throughout the

12779
07:22:08,800 --> 07:22:11,700
city. And so what they're

12780
07:22:11,700 --> 07:22:12,190
looking for and you saw the

12781
07:22:12,190 --> 07:22:14,260
high opportunity map is how do

12782
07:22:14,260 --> 07:22:17,500
we create opportunities for for

12783
07:22:17,500 --> 07:22:18,190
that gap, right? That's the gap

12784
07:22:18,190 --> 07:22:21,700
that ultimately we have. You

12785
07:22:21,700 --> 07:22:25,700
had it there for a second and

12786
07:22:25,700 --> 07:22:26,800
it's really around, you know,

12787
07:22:26,800 --> 07:22:28,500
so I mean we don't have a ton

12788
07:22:28,500 --> 07:22:29,190
of duplexes. It's really around

12789
07:22:29,190 --> 07:22:31,000
those opportunities for two or

12790
07:22:31,000 --> 07:22:33,210
3 or 4 units. You know, we're

12791
07:22:33,210 --> 07:22:35,500
seeing more opportunity through

12792
07:22:35,500 --> 07:22:36,130
some state law in the sort of,

12793
07:22:36,130 --> 07:22:39,400
you know, 10 to 20 and plus I'm

12794
07:22:39,400 --> 07:22:41,100
seeing some success there. But

12795
07:22:41,100 --> 07:22:42,150
they really sort of focused on

12796
07:22:42,150 --> 07:22:43,190
that high opportunity area

12797
07:22:43,190 --> 07:22:45,150
piece. What they did say was,

12798
07:22:45,150 --> 07:22:46,220
you know, obviously as they're

12799
07:22:46,220 --> 07:22:48,100
focused on it, they're looking

12800
07:22:48,100 --> 07:22:49,100
at what's already allowed under

12801
07:22:49,100 --> 07:22:51,140
state law and while, you know,

12802
07:22:51,140 --> 07:22:53,170
sb nine does allow up to four,

12803
07:22:53,170 --> 07:22:55,600
you know the focus in many sort

12804
07:22:55,600 --> 07:22:56,160
of places has been on lot

12805
07:22:56,160 --> 07:22:57,260
splits that allow two single

12806
07:22:57,260 --> 07:23:00,300
family homes. So in their

12807
07:23:00,300 --> 07:23:02,160
opinion, you know, they didn't

12808
07:23:02,160 --> 07:23:06,800
feel like a six units to the

12809
07:23:06,800 --> 07:23:08,800
acres sort of program was

12810
07:23:08,800 --> 07:23:09,220
substantially different from

12811
07:23:09,220 --> 07:23:10,270
what we would expect to see

12812
07:23:10,270 --> 07:23:12,200
under the current provisions

12813
07:23:12,200 --> 07:23:14,600
of sb nine. So they felt like

12814
07:23:14,600 --> 07:23:15,220
that, you know, would be a

12815
07:23:15,220 --> 07:23:18,000
concern now, you know, whatever

12816
07:23:18,000 --> 07:23:19,110
council's decision is today and

12817
07:23:19,110 --> 07:23:21,600
ultimately with implementation

12818
07:23:21,600 --> 07:23:23,150
of a program, it doesn't mean

12819
07:23:23,150 --> 07:23:25,100
that we're facing, you know,

12820
07:23:25,100 --> 07:23:27,110
the immediate repercussions of,

12821
07:23:27,110 --> 07:23:29,600
you know, decertification.

12822
07:23:29,600 --> 07:23:30,140
there's a process associated

12823
07:23:30,140 --> 07:23:31,250
with that that's baked into

12824
07:23:31,250 --> 07:23:34,000
state law into the government

12825
07:23:34,000 --> 07:23:34,130
code. You know, we would

12826
07:23:34,130 --> 07:23:35,190
certainly have the opportunity

12827
07:23:35,190 --> 07:23:37,240
to work with hpd to understand

12828
07:23:37,240 --> 07:23:39,100
that. But I think it's

12829
07:23:39,100 --> 07:23:40,500
important to understand that

12830
07:23:40,500 --> 07:23:41,260
there is a risk that currently

12831
07:23:41,260 --> 07:23:43,160
performing mid-cycle reviews

12832
07:23:43,160 --> 07:23:44,210
with all of the cities that

12833
07:23:44,210 --> 07:23:46,140
have, you know, housing

12834
07:23:46,140 --> 07:23:47,170
elements we just got a call

12835
07:23:47,170 --> 07:23:49,210
from them in july to do a

12836
07:23:49,210 --> 07:23:52,130
mid-cycle review. As was noted,

12837
07:23:52,130 --> 07:23:54,600
most cities are not performing

12838
07:23:54,600 --> 07:23:55,290
on the delivery of housing on

12839
07:23:55,290 --> 07:23:57,200
their arena number. So they are

12840
07:23:57,200 --> 07:23:59,100
really focused on program

12841
07:23:59,100 --> 07:24:00,100
performance. So when you look

12842
07:24:00,100 --> 07:24:01,100
at some of the challenges that

12843
07:24:01,100 --> 07:24:03,230
other cities have had with you

12844
07:24:03,230 --> 07:24:04,190
know, all the way to

12845
07:24:04,190 --> 07:24:06,120
decertification but also in

12846
07:24:06,120 --> 07:24:08,230
just you know, noncompliance

12847
07:24:08,230 --> 07:24:09,260
letters and some of the other

12848
07:24:09,260 --> 07:24:11,130
challenges, it's really been

12849
07:24:11,130 --> 07:24:12,140
around programing

12850
07:24:12,140 --> 07:24:14,100
implementation rather than

12851
07:24:14,100 --> 07:24:17,100
holding them to the minimum.

12852
07:24:18,130 --> 07:24:19,900
all >> right. Thanks for that

12853
07:24:19,900 --> 07:24:20,170
additional context from your

12854
07:24:20,170 --> 07:24:22,000
conversations with each city. I

12855
07:24:22,000 --> 07:24:23,200
think that's helpful. Okay. I

12856
07:24:23,200 --> 07:24:26,800
know the mix reset I had

12857
07:24:26,800 --> 07:24:27,120
councilmember cohen first and

12858
07:24:27,120 --> 07:24:28,280
then I did not keep track

12859
07:24:28,280 --> 07:24:30,140
of the rest but the mikes reset

12860
07:24:30,140 --> 07:24:31,200
about two hours into public

12861
07:24:31,200 --> 07:24:32,200
comment. So I'm going to go to

12862
07:24:32,200 --> 07:24:34,420
councilor cohen next. Just

12863
07:24:35,270 --> 07:24:37,900
before just before we

12864
07:24:37,900 --> 07:24:38,170
go forward, I just want to make

12865
07:24:38,170 --> 07:24:42,290
a note that I just I told >> on

12866
07:24:42,290 --> 07:24:43,260
councilmember cohen I'm sorry

12867
07:24:43,260 --> 07:24:45,600
he was first with the mikes

12868
07:24:45,600 --> 07:24:46,400
reset. I'm going to go to

12869
07:24:46,400 --> 07:24:47,200
councilmember calling first.

12870
07:24:47,200 --> 07:24:48,200
thank you. >> well, thank you

12871
07:24:48,200 --> 07:24:50,170
first of all to staff for all

12872
07:24:50,170 --> 07:24:51,200
the work that's gone into it up

12873
07:24:51,200 --> 07:24:53,600
to this point and thanks to all

12874
07:24:53,600 --> 07:24:54,100
the members of the public who

12875
07:24:54,100 --> 07:24:55,220
came out on both sides on all

12876
07:24:55,220 --> 07:24:56,170
sides of this issue. It's not

12877
07:24:56,170 --> 07:24:58,200
two sides. It's actually a lot

12878
07:24:58,200 --> 07:24:59,700
in this proposal, a lot more

12879
07:24:59,700 --> 07:25:01,230
than just one element although

12880
07:25:01,230 --> 07:25:03,400
I know a lot of the interest is

12881
07:25:03,400 --> 07:25:04,400
on the missing middle element.

12882
07:25:04,400 --> 07:25:05,210
there's a lot in this and so I

12883
07:25:05,210 --> 07:25:06,150
don't want to lose sight of the

12884
07:25:06,150 --> 07:25:08,100
fact that this is a much more

12885
07:25:08,100 --> 07:25:09,120
comprehensive look at the

12886
07:25:09,120 --> 07:25:10,270
general plan than just this one

12887
07:25:10,270 --> 07:25:11,270
issue of missing middle in

12888
07:25:11,270 --> 07:25:13,270
residential neighborhoods. But

12889
07:25:14,700 --> 07:25:16,120
I know that there's a lot

12890
07:25:16,120 --> 07:25:19,120
of well-placed fears when when

12891
07:25:19,150 --> 07:25:20,280
there's the potential to change

12892
07:25:20,280 --> 07:25:22,180
zoning. And so I want to thank

12893
07:25:22,180 --> 07:25:24,400
people who came out and and

12894
07:25:24,400 --> 07:25:25,300
expressed that and sat through

12895
07:25:25,300 --> 07:25:26,300
this long discussion of our

12896
07:25:26,300 --> 07:25:27,150
meeting. I know many have gone

12897
07:25:27,150 --> 07:25:28,210
home probably to listen online

12898
07:25:28,210 --> 07:25:29,230
but I appreciate those who have

12899
07:25:29,230 --> 07:25:31,000
stayed and want to listen to

12900
07:25:31,000 --> 07:25:33,260
the rest of the conversation.

12901
07:25:33,260 --> 07:25:35,300
I'm going to just start first

12902
07:25:35,300 --> 07:25:35,190
of all just talking a little

12903
07:25:35,190 --> 07:25:36,150
bit about the missing middle

12904
07:25:36,150 --> 07:25:38,600
item and then talk about a

12905
07:25:38,600 --> 07:25:38,220
couple of other things.

12906
07:25:38,220 --> 07:25:39,170
although I want to point out I

12907
07:25:39,170 --> 07:25:40,250
know some couple of commenters

12908
07:25:40,250 --> 07:25:43,200
talked about the focus on areas

12909
07:25:43,200 --> 07:25:44,260
where we want higher density

12910
07:25:44,260 --> 07:25:46,000
and north san jose is one I

12911
07:25:46,000 --> 07:25:47,600
represent north san jose.

12912
07:25:47,600 --> 07:25:48,150
my focus regardless of how this

12913
07:25:48,150 --> 07:25:49,130
moves forward will continue to

12914
07:25:49,130 --> 07:25:51,150
be on bringing developers into

12915
07:25:51,150 --> 07:25:52,190
north san jose to build high

12916
07:25:52,190 --> 07:25:54,000
density housing where we want

12917
07:25:54,000 --> 07:25:55,300
high density housing and I'm

12918
07:25:55,300 --> 07:25:57,200
excited about several projects

12919
07:25:57,200 --> 07:25:58,700
that are under construction now

12920
07:25:58,700 --> 07:26:00,150
and coming that are in much

12921
07:26:00,150 --> 07:26:01,200
higher density places. That's

12922
07:26:01,200 --> 07:26:02,210
what we're going to get a lot

12923
07:26:02,210 --> 07:26:03,260
of our housing units and will

12924
07:26:03,260 --> 07:26:05,150
continue to be my focus. But I

12925
07:26:05,150 --> 07:26:06,290
also want to point out that

12926
07:26:06,290 --> 07:26:08,270
rightfully so our staff and

12927
07:26:08,270 --> 07:26:10,120
myself are continued to focus

12928
07:26:10,120 --> 07:26:12,412
on preserving commercial land

12929
07:26:13,900 --> 07:26:14,230
in north san jose and not

12930
07:26:14,230 --> 07:26:16,110
rushing to convert commercial

12931
07:26:16,110 --> 07:26:18,280
land into the housing as well.

12932
07:26:18,280 --> 07:26:20,500
we have a lot of land in north

12933
07:26:20,500 --> 07:26:21,130
san jose that's designated for

12934
07:26:21,130 --> 07:26:23,100
housing but our commercial land

12935
07:26:23,100 --> 07:26:24,150
is really important to us and

12936
07:26:24,150 --> 07:26:27,160
we don't want to lose it. You

12937
07:26:27,160 --> 07:26:30,200
know there's there are concerns

12938
07:26:30,200 --> 07:26:31,400
>> about what it looks like

12939
07:26:31,400 --> 07:26:32,240
when people build this kind

12940
07:26:32,240 --> 07:26:35,160
of this kind of multi-unit or

12941
07:26:35,160 --> 07:26:36,260
turn a property from one house

12942
07:26:36,260 --> 07:26:38,400
into several. And I just want

12943
07:26:38,400 --> 07:26:39,400
to say in my district there are

12944
07:26:39,400 --> 07:26:40,120
already some examples of some

12945
07:26:40,120 --> 07:26:41,250
sites where people have used sb

12946
07:26:41,250 --> 07:26:44,250
nine to subdivide and build 3

12947
07:26:45,600 --> 07:26:47,000
to 5 units mostly three and

12948
07:26:47,000 --> 07:26:48,600
four units on a single

12949
07:26:48,600 --> 07:26:49,400
property. You can see them

12950
07:26:49,400 --> 07:26:50,300
along piedmont road and a

12951
07:26:50,300 --> 07:26:52,900
couple of places usually it's

12952
07:26:52,900 --> 07:26:53,400
done where there's a

12953
07:26:53,400 --> 07:26:55,404
dilapidated or vacant parcel

12954
07:26:56,000 --> 07:26:57,700
very rare that someone's going

12955
07:26:57,700 --> 07:26:59,000
to, you know, buy a $2.5

12956
07:26:59,000 --> 07:27:00,900
million house and then decide

12957
07:27:00,900 --> 07:27:01,260
to tear it down. I mean that's

12958
07:27:01,260 --> 07:27:02,260
you know, economically I don't

12959
07:27:02,260 --> 07:27:03,290
know that it works but a lot

12960
07:27:03,290 --> 07:27:05,800
of this happens where there's

12961
07:27:05,800 --> 07:27:06,900
something that needs to be

12962
07:27:06,900 --> 07:27:09,900
replaced anyway. But you can

12963
07:27:09,140 --> 07:27:11,400
see that these don't really

12964
07:27:11,400 --> 07:27:13,400
change. This doesn't happen

12965
07:27:13,400 --> 07:27:14,200
enough enough to change the

12966
07:27:14,200 --> 07:27:15,600
overall character of the

12967
07:27:15,600 --> 07:27:16,500
neighborhoods that that they're

12968
07:27:16,500 --> 07:27:17,260
happening in. But I do

12969
07:27:17,260 --> 07:27:19,200
appreciate your explanation as

12970
07:27:19,200 --> 07:27:22,240
to why having our own procedure

12971
07:27:22,240 --> 07:27:24,200
can actually allow us to

12972
07:27:24,200 --> 07:27:25,220
implement better codes or

12973
07:27:25,220 --> 07:27:27,700
requirements in the development

12974
07:27:27,700 --> 07:27:28,210
because if people use sb nine

12975
07:27:28,210 --> 07:27:30,230
we have no say over what a very

12976
07:27:30,230 --> 07:27:32,500
little say over what those

12977
07:27:32,500 --> 07:27:34,700
projects end up looking like.

12978
07:27:34,700 --> 07:27:35,800
there are also neighborhoods in

12979
07:27:35,800 --> 07:27:36,180
my district that are mostly

12980
07:27:36,180 --> 07:27:38,140
single family but have >> 430

12981
07:27:38,140 --> 07:27:40,170
to 40 years have had duplexes

12982
07:27:40,170 --> 07:27:42,150
and fourplex in them so you can

12983
07:27:42,150 --> 07:27:43,130
walk those neighborhoods and

12984
07:27:43,130 --> 07:27:45,500
see that mix. Sometimes you

12985
07:27:45,500 --> 07:27:46,120
don't even know that some

12986
07:27:46,120 --> 07:27:48,300
of the buildings are fourplex

12987
07:27:48,300 --> 07:27:49,200
versus the single family homes

12988
07:27:49,200 --> 07:27:51,600
next door. So there are

12989
07:27:51,600 --> 07:27:52,170
examples of neighborhoods where

12990
07:27:52,170 --> 07:27:55,170
that mix is working. Having

12991
07:27:55,280 --> 07:27:57,140
said that, we have 11 people on

12992
07:27:57,140 --> 07:27:58,170
this council and I suspect

12993
07:27:58,170 --> 07:28:00,500
there's 11 opinions as to what

12994
07:28:00,500 --> 07:28:02,200
the right outcome is. So you

12995
07:28:02,200 --> 07:28:04,000
will see that in the memo that

12996
07:28:04,000 --> 07:28:06,120
I was part of along with mayor

12997
07:28:06,120 --> 07:28:08,200
mehan and kosmas foley, casey

12998
07:28:08,200 --> 07:28:11,500
and campos that we are asking

12999
07:28:11,500 --> 07:28:13,220
for staff to do the analysis

13000
07:28:13,220 --> 07:28:15,600
of a range of densities so that

13001
07:28:15,600 --> 07:28:17,600
we have an understanding as to

13002
07:28:17,600 --> 07:28:19,500
what the analysis tells us

13003
07:28:19,500 --> 07:28:20,250
while we also working with hpd

13004
07:28:20,250 --> 07:28:22,600
and continuing to gather public

13005
07:28:22,600 --> 07:28:24,230
input. So our item asks for

13006
07:28:24,230 --> 07:28:26,260
continuing to review 1624 and

13007
07:28:26,260 --> 07:28:29,260
32 as potential numbers and we

13008
07:28:30,150 --> 07:28:31,160
obviously be having this

13009
07:28:31,160 --> 07:28:32,200
conversation going forward.

13010
07:28:32,200 --> 07:28:35,800
it's another six months at a

13011
07:28:35,800 --> 07:28:36,120
minimum before we would be

13012
07:28:36,120 --> 07:28:39,600
voting on some final outcome

13013
07:28:39,600 --> 07:28:40,240
here. The other thing that was

13014
07:28:40,240 --> 07:28:42,160
important to me and I know I

13015
07:28:42,160 --> 07:28:43,140
heard from a lot of members

13016
07:28:43,140 --> 07:28:44,170
of the public was this question

13017
07:28:44,170 --> 07:28:46,270
of parking right now and this

13018
07:28:46,270 --> 07:28:48,120
is something that's kind

13019
07:28:48,120 --> 07:28:49,160
of lost in this conversation

13020
07:28:49,160 --> 07:28:50,210
right now. There's many homes

13021
07:28:50,210 --> 07:28:51,240
in our city because of the

13022
07:28:51,240 --> 07:28:53,500
affordability issues where

13023
07:28:53,500 --> 07:28:54,210
multiple families are living in

13024
07:28:54,210 --> 07:28:56,230
a single family home. That's

13025
07:28:56,230 --> 07:28:59,200
pretty much the same outcome as

13026
07:28:59,200 --> 07:29:00,140
a four plex on a property with

13027
07:29:00,140 --> 07:29:01,210
four families living in it. If

13028
07:29:01,210 --> 07:29:03,700
you have a single family home

13029
07:29:03,700 --> 07:29:04,170
with multiple families living

13030
07:29:04,170 --> 07:29:06,200
in it, I would say it's

13031
07:29:06,200 --> 07:29:07,130
preferable to have separate

13032
07:29:07,130 --> 07:29:08,900
units for each of those

13033
07:29:08,900 --> 07:29:10,240
families. So >> the result

13034
07:29:10,240 --> 07:29:11,290
though and in case and I know

13035
07:29:11,290 --> 07:29:12,290
some districts like district

13036
07:29:12,290 --> 07:29:14,800
five are particularly impacted

13037
07:29:14,800 --> 07:29:15,140
but all of our districts have

13038
07:29:15,140 --> 07:29:17,260
it is that there is not parking

13039
07:29:17,260 --> 07:29:19,200
and we end up with this parking

13040
07:29:19,200 --> 07:29:20,140
problem where multiple families

13041
07:29:20,140 --> 07:29:21,150
are living in single family

13042
07:29:21,150 --> 07:29:23,300
homes now we have parking

13043
07:29:23,300 --> 07:29:25,700
overflowing. We have issues on

13044
07:29:25,700 --> 07:29:26,190
the streets based on that

13045
07:29:26,190 --> 07:29:28,200
experience I feel that it's

13046
07:29:28,200 --> 07:29:31,800
important for us to outside

13047
07:29:31,800 --> 07:29:33,260
of the state restricted areas

13048
07:29:33,260 --> 07:29:35,120
to create a parking standard.

13049
07:29:35,120 --> 07:29:36,170
and my understanding I think

13050
07:29:36,170 --> 07:29:37,230
you kind of said this before is

13051
07:29:37,230 --> 07:29:39,000
that those who are doing this

13052
07:29:39,000 --> 07:29:41,600
now are typically including

13053
07:29:41,600 --> 07:29:42,250
parking. Can you clarify this?

13054
07:29:42,250 --> 07:29:44,800
but typically including parking

13055
07:29:44,800 --> 07:29:45,270
because they want a sellable

13056
07:29:45,270 --> 07:29:47,000
marketable product when they're

13057
07:29:47,000 --> 07:29:48,250
done? That's correct. Yeah. The

13058
07:29:48,250 --> 07:29:50,300
examples we've seen so far have

13059
07:29:50,300 --> 07:29:51,150
included parking and again when

13060
07:29:51,150 --> 07:29:54,140
we removed our parking minimums

13061
07:29:54,140 --> 07:29:56,600
part of that conversation was

13062
07:29:56,600 --> 07:29:58,100
that the market would adjust to

13063
07:29:58,100 --> 07:29:59,170
provide the appropriate parking

13064
07:29:59,170 --> 07:30:01,000
and you know we've seen

13065
07:30:01,000 --> 07:30:03,100
examples where that's gone both

13066
07:30:03,100 --> 07:30:05,500
ways but in instances like this

13067
07:30:05,500 --> 07:30:06,140
we've seen it always provide

13068
07:30:06,140 --> 07:30:07,250
at >> least clearly in the

13069
07:30:07,250 --> 07:30:09,400
higher density projects there's

13070
07:30:09,400 --> 07:30:10,200
still there's still some

13071
07:30:10,200 --> 07:30:11,110
experimentation that that's

13072
07:30:11,110 --> 07:30:13,200
happening. But I think in these

13073
07:30:13,200 --> 07:30:14,180
lower density sites that it's

13074
07:30:14,180 --> 07:30:16,200
typical that they're wanting to

13075
07:30:16,200 --> 07:30:17,300
provide at least one parking

13076
07:30:17,300 --> 07:30:18,000
space for each unit that

13077
07:30:18,000 --> 07:30:19,200
they're building already. So

13078
07:30:19,200 --> 07:30:20,210
I'm going >> to try to craft

13079
07:30:20,210 --> 07:30:21,210
out of all the memos and I

13080
07:30:21,210 --> 07:30:23,400
appreciate all the all of my

13081
07:30:23,400 --> 07:30:24,260
colleagues on the council for

13082
07:30:24,260 --> 07:30:26,700
all the work that they've done

13083
07:30:26,700 --> 07:30:27,190
on various things and I'm going

13084
07:30:27,190 --> 07:30:30,190
to put together a motion

13085
07:30:31,210 --> 07:30:32,220
combining >> a whole lot

13086
07:30:32,220 --> 07:30:34,180
of stuff and leaving some

13087
07:30:34,180 --> 07:30:35,180
openings for additional

13088
07:30:35,180 --> 07:30:36,170
conversation on some of the

13089
07:30:36,170 --> 07:30:37,240
things that I'm not clear on in

13090
07:30:37,240 --> 07:30:40,240
other people's memos. >> first

13091
07:30:40,260 --> 07:30:43,150
moving the the full group memo

13092
07:30:43,150 --> 07:30:45,000
>> that that I was part of that

13093
07:30:45,000 --> 07:30:46,200
includes the parking not

13094
07:30:46,200 --> 07:30:49,100
parking it number the range

13095
07:30:49,100 --> 07:30:50,190
of explanation of the range

13096
07:30:50,190 --> 07:30:53,800
of densities pickup and I'm

13097
07:30:53,800 --> 07:30:54,500
going to make a quick comment

13098
07:30:54,500 --> 07:30:55,160
about pickup while I'm on it

13099
07:30:55,160 --> 07:30:58,120
though there's been some

13100
07:30:58,120 --> 07:31:00,100
discussion about blanket

13101
07:31:00,100 --> 07:31:02,000
rezoning of pickup properties.

13102
07:31:02,000 --> 07:31:03,700
I think it's important for us

13103
07:31:03,700 --> 07:31:06,150
to to continue to have that

13104
07:31:06,150 --> 07:31:07,290
message out there that in the

13105
07:31:07,290 --> 07:31:09,000
long run there will be a

13106
07:31:09,000 --> 07:31:10,500
certain amount of pickup

13107
07:31:10,500 --> 07:31:12,800
properties that are necessary

13108
07:31:12,800 --> 07:31:13,120
as we hope that more

13109
07:31:13,120 --> 07:31:14,200
affordability gets in place and

13110
07:31:14,200 --> 07:31:15,230
more children come back into

13111
07:31:15,230 --> 07:31:18,300
our communities. We shouldn't

13112
07:31:18,300 --> 07:31:20,600
encourage the wholesale loss

13113
07:31:20,600 --> 07:31:21,180
of pickup lands and so I think

13114
07:31:21,180 --> 07:31:22,260
a thoughtful process for each

13115
07:31:22,260 --> 07:31:24,230
peak conversion is important

13116
07:31:24,230 --> 07:31:26,280
but I think an expedited

13117
07:31:26,280 --> 07:31:28,170
process to do that pickup

13118
07:31:28,170 --> 07:31:30,600
conversion would be helpful to

13119
07:31:30,600 --> 07:31:31,200
people who want to make that

13120
07:31:31,200 --> 07:31:32,600
conversion. But there's a

13121
07:31:32,600 --> 07:31:33,180
couple of items here on pickup.

13122
07:31:33,180 --> 07:31:35,150
there's also a specific item in

13123
07:31:35,150 --> 07:31:37,200
south san jose. Our item number

13124
07:31:37,200 --> 07:31:39,270
two in our memo for a the

13125
07:31:39,270 --> 07:31:42,220
property at coral on coral road

13126
07:31:42,220 --> 07:31:44,270
in district two >> in the memo

13127
07:31:44,270 --> 07:31:48,100
from candela ahi and or ts I'm

13128
07:31:48,100 --> 07:31:50,300
going to at this point include

13129
07:31:50,300 --> 07:31:53,603
item 1ai1 which is the moderate

13130
07:31:55,300 --> 07:31:56,270
fire severity zones making sure

13131
07:31:56,270 --> 07:31:57,280
that we are taking that into

13132
07:31:57,280 --> 07:32:00,628
account in our in our plans

13133
07:32:01,130 --> 07:32:02,160
because I know that some of our

13134
07:32:02,160 --> 07:32:03,170
districts in the hillsides

13135
07:32:03,170 --> 07:32:04,250
particularly have that issue

13136
07:32:04,250 --> 07:32:06,400
and some of them don't have a

13137
07:32:06,400 --> 07:32:07,700
lot of ways in or out of those

13138
07:32:07,700 --> 07:32:07,290
neighborhoods. So it's

13139
07:32:07,290 --> 07:32:09,130
important for us to take that

13140
07:32:09,130 --> 07:32:12,613
into account. >> the one be in

13141
07:32:15,170 --> 07:32:17,900
that memo include one, be in

13142
07:32:17,900 --> 07:32:19,180
that memo on one, see, I'm

13143
07:32:19,180 --> 07:32:20,250
going to I'm going to probably

13144
07:32:20,250 --> 07:32:22,270
ask councilmember kay later to

13145
07:32:22,270 --> 07:32:24,190
make some clarification.

13146
07:32:24,190 --> 07:32:26,170
my motion at this point will

13147
07:32:26,170 --> 07:32:28,130
ask that we don't rezone as was

13148
07:32:28,130 --> 07:32:30,600
recommended by the planning

13149
07:32:30,600 --> 07:32:32,600
department because

13150
07:32:32,800 --> 07:32:33,600
my understanding from their

13151
07:32:33,600 --> 07:32:36,600
explanation is that the the

13152
07:32:36,250 --> 07:32:38,180
moon designation would actually

13153
07:32:38,180 --> 07:32:40,180
potentially underutilized some

13154
07:32:40,240 --> 07:32:42,600
properties on that on that

13155
07:32:42,600 --> 07:32:43,900
place but leaving it the way it

13156
07:32:43,900 --> 07:32:44,250
is would allow side by side

13157
07:32:44,250 --> 07:32:46,120
discussions about appropriate

13158
07:32:46,120 --> 07:32:48,260
uses. But we can discuss that

13159
07:32:48,260 --> 07:32:51,000
as we move forward >> include

13160
07:32:51,000 --> 07:32:55,800
item d and e from the memo and

13161
07:32:56,000 --> 07:32:59,000
on f. Well I support the idea

13162
07:32:59,000 --> 07:33:00,000
>> we will bring will be

13163
07:33:00,000 --> 07:33:02,000
included and included in the

13164
07:33:02,000 --> 07:33:04,200
october 6th discussion from pbc

13165
07:33:04,200 --> 07:33:05,220
on the overall set

13166
07:33:05,220 --> 07:33:06,230
of priorities of all the work

13167
07:33:06,230 --> 07:33:08,800
that they've been asked to do.

13168
07:33:08,800 --> 07:33:09,150
so we will include that but it

13169
07:33:09,150 --> 07:33:11,110
would go to that the priority

13170
07:33:11,110 --> 07:33:14,611
session on that at that time

13171
07:33:15,180 --> 07:33:17,160
and the memo from tordillos and

13172
07:33:17,160 --> 07:33:20,160
may I we I did not have the

13173
07:33:20,160 --> 07:33:21,230
benefit of being part of the

13174
07:33:21,230 --> 07:33:23,170
brown act to understand number

13175
07:33:23,170 --> 07:33:25,200
one as well as I should and get

13176
07:33:25,200 --> 07:33:27,200
a full feel for the rationale

13177
07:33:27,200 --> 07:33:28,170
and all the thought so I'm

13178
07:33:28,170 --> 07:33:29,220
leaving it out of the motion

13179
07:33:29,220 --> 07:33:31,400
but offering the opportunity

13180
07:33:31,400 --> 07:33:33,600
for the members of that brown

13181
07:33:33,600 --> 07:33:34,290
act or the members of that the

13182
07:33:34,290 --> 07:33:36,200
authors of that memo to provide

13183
07:33:36,200 --> 07:33:39,170
context and we'll consider that

13184
07:33:39,170 --> 07:33:41,417
one independently include item

13185
07:33:42,230 --> 07:33:44,170
number two changing the >> word

13186
07:33:44,170 --> 07:33:47,150
develop to explore and include

13187
07:33:47,150 --> 07:33:50,615
number three and on number four

13188
07:33:53,110 --> 07:33:55,000
include it with the caveat that

13189
07:33:55,000 --> 07:33:56,130
I would like a better

13190
07:33:56,130 --> 07:33:58,000
clarification of the definition

13191
07:33:58,000 --> 07:33:59,300
of downtown. I'm a little

13192
07:33:59,300 --> 07:34:00,250
concerned about how wide

13193
07:34:00,250 --> 07:34:02,180
ranging it could be and and

13194
07:34:02,180 --> 07:34:04,280
exactly what that means. So

13195
07:34:04,280 --> 07:34:06,700
leaving it open for us to

13196
07:34:06,700 --> 07:34:08,600
discuss the actual definition

13197
07:34:08,600 --> 07:34:10,140
in the motion and then item

13198
07:34:10,140 --> 07:34:13,700
five one would be included as

13199
07:34:13,700 --> 07:34:16,607
part of our number which number

13200
07:34:18,180 --> 07:34:20,280
was that? Our our number are

13201
07:34:20,280 --> 07:34:23,280
one >> pc0 sorry 11c so

13202
07:34:24,900 --> 07:34:25,600
basically it's the same thing

13203
07:34:25,600 --> 07:34:27,150
allowing the commercial and

13204
07:34:27,150 --> 07:34:28,210
then including these

13205
07:34:28,210 --> 07:34:30,500
restrictions on that commercial

13206
07:34:30,500 --> 07:34:31,400
as part of you would include

13207
07:34:31,400 --> 07:34:32,170
the sub point include the sub

13208
07:34:32,170 --> 07:34:34,200
point as part of our one c in

13209
07:34:34,200 --> 07:34:37,100
our underlying memo. So that's

13210
07:34:37,100 --> 07:34:39,000
the that's the motion that I

13211
07:34:39,000 --> 07:34:41,230
put on the floor. Thank you. Oh

13212
07:34:41,230 --> 07:34:44,230
yeah, sure. On >> our memo what

13213
07:34:44,230 --> 07:34:48,223
did you say about one d and >>

13214
07:34:49,100 --> 07:34:52,110
I, I included danny yeah as as

13215
07:34:52,110 --> 07:34:54,411
written. >> okay. I think

13216
07:34:55,300 --> 07:34:56,400
that's a great basis for

13217
07:34:56,400 --> 07:34:58,404
discussion and I appreciate

13218
07:34:59,800 --> 07:35:02,608
that. Councilor don, I know you

13219
07:35:04,000 --> 07:35:05,240
had also I think you got out

13220
07:35:05,240 --> 07:35:06,280
of line there when we had the

13221
07:35:06,280 --> 07:35:08,900
confusion a moment ago so I'll

13222
07:35:08,900 --> 07:35:09,150
let you go and go next and then

13223
07:35:09,150 --> 07:35:10,500
I'm going to go through the

13224
07:35:10,500 --> 07:35:11,220
order I have on my screen. But

13225
07:35:11,220 --> 07:35:13,200
go ahead, councilor one >> I

13226
07:35:13,200 --> 07:35:16,160
appreciate that mayor how well

13227
07:35:16,160 --> 07:35:18,200
I support two san jose goal to

13228
07:35:18,200 --> 07:35:19,290
have producing more housing and

13229
07:35:19,290 --> 07:35:21,240
recognized a needs for

13230
07:35:21,240 --> 07:35:23,240
additional housing option.

13231
07:35:24,220 --> 07:35:26,210
my concern is whether we built

13232
07:35:26,210 --> 07:35:29,900
housing it is where and how we

13233
07:35:29,900 --> 07:35:31,409
add these density >> and

13234
07:35:32,900 --> 07:35:34,900
particularly concerns about the

13235
07:35:34,900 --> 07:35:36,150
impact of the proposed

13236
07:35:36,150 --> 07:35:39,150
implementation of p dash 35 and

13237
07:35:40,160 --> 07:35:42,600
missing middle housing on

13238
07:35:42,600 --> 07:35:44,000
establish single family

13239
07:35:44,000 --> 07:35:45,130
neighborhood and district >>

13240
07:35:45,130 --> 07:35:47,130
£0.07 >> 35 call for expanding

13241
07:35:48,270 --> 07:35:50,427
opportunity for small multi

13242
07:35:51,200 --> 07:35:53,200
housing multifamily housing

13243
07:35:54,000 --> 07:35:56,290
generally 4 to 10 units but the

13244
07:35:56,290 --> 07:35:58,290
original policy contemplate

13245
07:35:59,180 --> 07:36:01,180
strategically location

13246
07:36:01,200 --> 07:36:03,420
including major street urban

13247
07:36:04,300 --> 07:36:06,403
village area transition area

13248
07:36:07,000 --> 07:36:09,900
and other location appropriate

13249
07:36:09,900 --> 07:36:12,900
for additional density. I am

13250
07:36:13,300 --> 07:36:14,250
concerned that >> the current

13251
07:36:14,250 --> 07:36:16,130
four year review could take

13252
07:36:16,130 --> 07:36:19,300
that concept much further by

13253
07:36:19,300 --> 07:36:21,000
substantially increasing

13254
07:36:21,000 --> 07:36:22,230
development capacity throughout

13255
07:36:22,230 --> 07:36:24,230
residential neighborhood area

13256
07:36:26,400 --> 07:36:27,200
before doing >> that, council

13257
07:36:27,200 --> 07:36:29,400
should clearly establish

13258
07:36:29,400 --> 07:36:31,110
whether this broader approach

13259
07:36:31,110 --> 07:36:33,400
is actually necessary to

13260
07:36:33,400 --> 07:36:36,604
accomplish the goal of p 35. It

13261
07:36:37,280 --> 07:36:39,150
>> changed from predominantly

13262
07:36:39,150 --> 07:36:42,100
one home per parcel to the

13263
07:36:42,100 --> 07:36:44,230
possibility of 4 to 10 units

13264
07:36:44,230 --> 07:36:47,400
per parcel is not simply an

13265
07:36:47,400 --> 07:36:50,000
increase of housing supply. It

13266
07:36:50,000 --> 07:36:51,190
>> can fundamentally change the

13267
07:36:51,190 --> 07:36:53,300
physical characters of the

13268
07:36:53,300 --> 07:36:55,300
neighborhood. Speaking

13269
07:36:55,130 --> 07:36:57,170
specifically to district seven,

13270
07:36:57,170 --> 07:36:59,180
the city has designated area

13271
07:36:59,180 --> 07:37:01,250
for substantial growth and

13272
07:37:01,250 --> 07:37:04,170
redevelopment. I want the staff

13273
07:37:04,170 --> 07:37:06,400
to explain why additional >>

13274
07:37:06,400 --> 07:37:08,900
density needs to be broadly

13275
07:37:08,900 --> 07:37:10,900
distributed across establish >>

13276
07:37:11,160 --> 07:37:13,160
residential neighborhood rather

13277
07:37:13,210 --> 07:37:16,210
than concentrate on more growth

13278
07:37:16,230 --> 07:37:18,423
along major corridor transit,

13279
07:37:20,250 --> 07:37:22,210
urban village and other areas

13280
07:37:22,210 --> 07:37:23,270
already plan for greater

13281
07:37:23,270 --> 07:37:25,270
intensity different

13282
07:37:26,600 --> 07:37:27,900
neighborhoods have different

13283
07:37:27,900 --> 07:37:29,900
street worth infrastructure

13284
07:37:29,200 --> 07:37:31,420
transit access and existing

13285
07:37:32,220 --> 07:37:34,422
density. A citywide standard

13286
07:37:36,100 --> 07:37:38,400
may not produce a proper result

13287
07:37:38,400 --> 07:37:40,404
in every single neighborhood.

13288
07:37:42,200 --> 07:37:45,200
my memorandum proposed a four

13289
07:37:47,120 --> 07:37:50,612
weeks delay on this item for

13290
07:37:51,270 --> 07:37:54,627
staff to return. Would it clear

13291
07:37:55,100 --> 07:37:58,120
to the lack of information and

13292
07:37:58,120 --> 07:38:00,412
or misinformation causing or

13293
07:38:01,200 --> 07:38:02,260
resident concerns such as

13294
07:38:02,260 --> 07:38:04,260
increased traffic, parking,

13295
07:38:05,220 --> 07:38:07,220
congestion overcrowding,

13296
07:38:08,800 --> 07:38:10,100
property value and change in

13297
07:38:10,100 --> 07:38:12,100
the neighborhood? Characters?

13298
07:38:14,100 --> 07:38:17,100
and I think that we need to

13299
07:38:17,100 --> 07:38:19,400
make it even more transparency

13300
07:38:19,400 --> 07:38:21,250
c to reduce >> the amount

13301
07:38:21,250 --> 07:38:23,425
of confusion especially an

13302
07:38:24,160 --> 07:38:26,416
overwhelming letter that was

13303
07:38:27,100 --> 07:38:28,400
sent in from the public

13304
07:38:28,400 --> 07:38:30,260
comments saying no and the

13305
07:38:30,260 --> 07:38:32,140
government should not interfere

13306
07:38:32,140 --> 07:38:35,200
with the free market therefore

13307
07:38:35,200 --> 07:38:38,200
we need more time so >>

13308
07:38:38,200 --> 07:38:40,150
therefore I move to have in

13309
07:38:40,150 --> 07:38:42,150
substitution >> to >> approve

13310
07:38:45,280 --> 07:38:48,280
my memorandums for a 30 days

13311
07:38:51,200 --> 07:38:54,600
setback to reset to engage >>

13312
07:38:54,600 --> 07:38:57,400
more with our constituent to

13313
07:38:57,400 --> 07:38:58,220
make sure we hear and

13314
07:38:58,220 --> 07:39:00,422
understand what their concern

13315
07:39:01,220 --> 07:39:04,160
and end of the day there is a

13316
07:39:04,160 --> 07:39:07,160
very legit argument that our

13317
07:39:08,500 --> 07:39:11,500
constituent voters in to be

13318
07:39:12,600 --> 07:39:14,406
their representation >> and I

13319
07:39:15,100 --> 07:39:18,601
asked for a second >> right to

13320
07:39:19,500 --> 07:39:21,140
have a second on the substitute

13321
07:39:21,140 --> 07:39:25,130
I'm not hearing any you did I

13322
07:39:25,130 --> 07:39:26,260
did hear a question for staff

13323
07:39:26,260 --> 07:39:28,140
in there did you? Yes, I do and

13324
07:39:28,140 --> 07:39:30,200
let me you want to ask that as

13325
07:39:30,200 --> 07:39:33,620
to staff question on this why

13326
07:39:35,000 --> 07:39:36,130
>> isn't the city concentrate

13327
07:39:36,130 --> 07:39:38,270
more of the additional housing

13328
07:39:38,270 --> 07:39:40,190
capacity in the existing growth

13329
07:39:40,190 --> 07:39:43,190
area like urban villages, major

13330
07:39:43,260 --> 07:39:45,260
corridor corridors, transit

13331
07:39:46,260 --> 07:39:48,190
before changing the development

13332
07:39:48,190 --> 07:39:50,419
pattern of the established

13333
07:39:51,600 --> 07:39:53,600
neighborhood. So again,

13334
07:39:56,000 --> 07:39:57,600
councilmember and maybe I'll

13335
07:39:57,600 --> 07:39:58,260
let the team answer this as

13336
07:39:58,260 --> 07:40:01,240
well but you know we continue

13337
07:40:01,240 --> 07:40:03,200
to believe that growth in our

13338
07:40:03,200 --> 07:40:05,800
growth areas and urban villages

13339
07:40:05,800 --> 07:40:07,400
along the transit corridors and

13340
07:40:07,400 --> 07:40:09,170
you know, major arterials is

13341
07:40:09,170 --> 07:40:12,100
absolutely the the right way to

13342
07:40:12,100 --> 07:40:13,140
go. There's you know, a

13343
07:40:13,140 --> 07:40:15,700
considerable amount of housing

13344
07:40:15,700 --> 07:40:17,160
capacity already contained in

13345
07:40:17,160 --> 07:40:21,150
those areas and we have over I

13346
07:40:21,150 --> 07:40:23,180
think it's over 26,000 units

13347
07:40:23,180 --> 07:40:25,120
entitled throughout the city

13348
07:40:25,120 --> 07:40:26,170
for various different types

13349
07:40:26,170 --> 07:40:27,270
of housing development. And I

13350
07:40:27,270 --> 07:40:28,250
think what we're trying to

13351
07:40:28,250 --> 07:40:31,300
achieve with this policy is a

13352
07:40:31,300 --> 07:40:33,000
diversity of housing type. So

13353
07:40:33,000 --> 07:40:35,240
really sort of address that gap

13354
07:40:35,240 --> 07:40:37,100
where we don't have an

13355
07:40:37,100 --> 07:40:40,100
opportunity for this well you

13356
07:40:40,300 --> 07:40:41,400
know it is an increase in

13357
07:40:41,400 --> 07:40:42,200
density. We would still

13358
07:40:42,200 --> 07:40:44,402
consider this lower density

13359
07:40:45,000 --> 07:40:47,130
than some of those other areas.

13360
07:40:47,130 --> 07:40:48,180
we don't have opportunity for

13361
07:40:48,180 --> 07:40:49,200
these types of developments

13362
07:40:49,200 --> 07:40:50,210
around the city where you can

13363
07:40:50,210 --> 07:40:52,700
see, you know, rowhouses or

13364
07:40:52,700 --> 07:40:53,270
town townhomes or small

13365
07:40:53,270 --> 07:40:55,210
apartment blocks. So you know,

13366
07:40:55,210 --> 07:40:57,150
we don't want to go back and

13367
07:40:57,150 --> 07:40:58,270
reduce the density in any

13368
07:40:58,270 --> 07:41:00,130
of those growth areas to allow

13369
07:41:00,130 --> 07:41:02,200
for this type of development.

13370
07:41:02,200 --> 07:41:03,150
so we're looking for other

13371
07:41:03,150 --> 07:41:05,250
opportunities is and you know,

13372
07:41:05,250 --> 07:41:08,250
the most the most practical

13373
07:41:09,160 --> 07:41:10,200
alternative is to find a

13374
07:41:10,200 --> 07:41:11,290
solution that's in keeping with

13375
07:41:11,290 --> 07:41:12,280
the neighborhood character in

13376
07:41:12,280 --> 07:41:14,150
our single family districts and

13377
07:41:14,150 --> 07:41:15,240
allow this you know what some

13378
07:41:15,240 --> 07:41:17,200
people refer to as gentle

13379
07:41:17,200 --> 07:41:19,400
density throughout the city in

13380
07:41:19,400 --> 07:41:22,120
a way that sort of equitable.

13381
07:41:22,120 --> 07:41:24,130
if I could just add to

13382
07:41:24,130 --> 07:41:25,200
councilmember jared ferguson,

13383
07:41:25,200 --> 07:41:27,120
principal planner, something we

13384
07:41:27,120 --> 07:41:28,200
haven't spent a ton of time

13385
07:41:28,200 --> 07:41:29,180
talking about but chris

13386
07:41:29,180 --> 07:41:31,600
mentioned in his presentation a

13387
07:41:31,600 --> 07:41:32,900
key point of what we were

13388
07:41:32,900 --> 07:41:33,140
undergoing in this for you

13389
07:41:33,140 --> 07:41:34,290
review is also a part of our

13390
07:41:34,290 --> 07:41:36,130
housing element to evaluate our

13391
07:41:36,130 --> 07:41:38,180
urban village strategy. It was

13392
07:41:38,180 --> 07:41:39,170
something mentioned in the

13393
07:41:39,170 --> 07:41:41,200
letter from hpd that they were

13394
07:41:41,200 --> 07:41:42,270
going to be monitoring but how

13395
07:41:42,270 --> 07:41:44,110
we could improve and speed up

13396
07:41:44,110 --> 07:41:45,230
how we do our urban village

13397
07:41:45,230 --> 07:41:47,300
plans because it is still an

13398
07:41:47,300 --> 07:41:48,230
emphasis that we do want to see

13399
07:41:48,230 --> 07:41:50,900
continued housing production in

13400
07:41:50,900 --> 07:41:52,200
those areas. But how do we

13401
07:41:52,200 --> 07:41:54,200
speed up the completion of the

13402
07:41:54,200 --> 07:41:55,280
plans for the 40 plus village

13403
07:41:55,280 --> 07:41:58,000
that haven't been planned since

13404
07:41:58,000 --> 07:42:00,800
2011? So >> it is still a very

13405
07:42:00,800 --> 07:42:02,500
key and important aspect of how

13406
07:42:02,500 --> 07:42:04,210
we're going to produce housing.

13407
07:42:04,210 --> 07:42:06,000
but this is an additional

13408
07:42:06,000 --> 07:42:07,210
strategy to to produce units

13409
07:42:07,210 --> 07:42:09,190
above and beyond that. Thank

13410
07:42:09,190 --> 07:42:11,400
you for that explanation. But I

13411
07:42:11,400 --> 07:42:12,210
understand that even though we

13412
07:42:12,210 --> 07:42:14,210
estimated at 26,000 housing

13413
07:42:15,120 --> 07:42:17,240
toward the transit and the

13414
07:42:17,240 --> 07:42:19,250
major corridors but we haven't

13415
07:42:19,250 --> 07:42:22,250
seen those fruition >> until we

13416
07:42:23,800 --> 07:42:25,230
see the fruition we we can't

13417
07:42:25,230 --> 07:42:27,160
put the horse >> and the cart

13418
07:42:27,160 --> 07:42:29,220
before the horse. We have to

13419
07:42:29,220 --> 07:42:32,900
take one >> step at a time. We

13420
07:42:32,900 --> 07:42:34,700
see those fruition then we can

13421
07:42:34,700 --> 07:42:36,160
go okay, we can take the next

13422
07:42:36,160 --> 07:42:38,800
steps and I think it's

13423
07:42:38,800 --> 07:42:41,170
important that again I want to

13424
07:42:41,170 --> 07:42:44,170
make sure that even though

13425
07:42:44,260 --> 07:42:46,700
there's no one second

13426
07:42:46,700 --> 07:42:48,700
my substitution, I want to make

13427
07:42:48,700 --> 07:42:50,280
sure that the communication,

13428
07:42:50,280 --> 07:42:52,180
the transparency to our

13429
07:42:52,180 --> 07:42:54,418
residents out there continues

13430
07:42:55,100 --> 07:42:57,400
as we move forward. >> thank

13431
07:42:57,400 --> 07:42:59,404
you so much. Thanks,

13432
07:43:00,300 --> 07:43:01,000
councilmember and I appreciate

13433
07:43:01,000 --> 07:43:02,190
your emphasis on public input

13434
07:43:02,190 --> 07:43:03,230
which is why I also asked some

13435
07:43:03,230 --> 07:43:06,110
questions about how many town

13436
07:43:06,110 --> 07:43:07,140
halls and other outreach

13437
07:43:07,140 --> 07:43:08,240
opportunities have we had so

13438
07:43:08,240 --> 07:43:10,160
far and then over the next six

13439
07:43:10,160 --> 07:43:12,200
months or so, what's the

13440
07:43:12,200 --> 07:43:13,220
expectation for actually doing

13441
07:43:13,220 --> 07:43:15,100
even more because we certainly

13442
07:43:15,100 --> 07:43:16,120
don't want residents to come

13443
07:43:16,120 --> 07:43:17,240
here a year a year from now and

13444
07:43:17,240 --> 07:43:18,240
feel like they didn't have

13445
07:43:18,240 --> 07:43:20,100
ample opportunity to really

13446
07:43:20,100 --> 07:43:21,250
learn and engage and give

13447
07:43:21,250 --> 07:43:23,900
input. All right. Thank you,

13448
07:43:23,900 --> 07:43:25,900
councilor. Let's go now to

13449
07:43:25,900 --> 07:43:27,900
councilmember claudius. >>

13450
07:43:28,500 --> 07:43:29,500
thank you, mayor. And thank you

13451
07:43:29,500 --> 07:43:30,230
everyone from the public who

13452
07:43:30,230 --> 07:43:31,190
came out to speak today and

13453
07:43:31,190 --> 07:43:33,400
provided comments online even

13454
07:43:33,400 --> 07:43:34,100
though there are again a

13455
07:43:34,100 --> 07:43:35,700
diversity of opinions in the

13456
07:43:35,700 --> 07:43:36,230
room today. And I also want to

13457
07:43:36,230 --> 07:43:38,200
thank members of the planning

13458
07:43:38,200 --> 07:43:39,600
commission and planning staff

13459
07:43:39,600 --> 07:43:40,800
who've been working on this for

13460
07:43:40,800 --> 07:43:42,700
the better part of a year to

13461
07:43:42,700 --> 07:43:43,290
get us to this point. You know,

13462
07:43:43,290 --> 07:43:45,600
as I was preparing for today's

13463
07:43:45,600 --> 07:43:46,170
meeting I saw a headline that I

13464
07:43:46,170 --> 07:43:47,220
think really for me put the

13465
07:43:47,220 --> 07:43:48,260
stakes of these sorts

13466
07:43:48,260 --> 07:43:50,800
of decisions into context. I

13467
07:43:50,800 --> 07:43:50,280
think some of the public

13468
07:43:50,280 --> 07:43:52,500
commenters referenced that as

13469
07:43:52,500 --> 07:43:53,170
well and it was around the

13470
07:43:53,170 --> 07:43:55,220
publication of the 2026 silicon

13471
07:43:55,220 --> 07:43:57,160
valley pain index and that

13472
07:43:57,160 --> 07:43:59,500
report leads off with a pretty

13473
07:43:59,500 --> 07:44:00,180
sobering statistic which is

13474
07:44:00,180 --> 07:44:01,200
that there was yet another

13475
07:44:01,200 --> 07:44:04,200
study that identified san jose

13476
07:44:04,200 --> 07:44:05,210
as the least affordable city to

13477
07:44:05,210 --> 07:44:07,120
purchase a home anywhere in the

13478
07:44:07,120 --> 07:44:09,120
world. So I know throughout the

13479
07:44:09,120 --> 07:44:10,700
public comment tonight there

13480
07:44:10,700 --> 07:44:11,700
was a lot of talk about the

13481
07:44:11,700 --> 07:44:12,140
american dream and what that

13482
07:44:12,140 --> 07:44:14,500
means and I personally don't

13483
07:44:14,500 --> 07:44:15,500
think that we can sit up here

13484
07:44:15,500 --> 07:44:16,140
and pretend as if the american

13485
07:44:16,140 --> 07:44:18,150
dream is alive and well when

13486
07:44:18,150 --> 07:44:19,290
homeownership is so out

13487
07:44:19,290 --> 07:44:21,150
of reach for so many of our

13488
07:44:21,150 --> 07:44:24,700
residents here in san jose and

13489
07:44:24,700 --> 07:44:25,600
even amongst those who do

13490
07:44:25,600 --> 07:44:27,600
manage to purchase homes, data

13491
07:44:27,600 --> 07:44:28,110
from the american community

13492
07:44:28,110 --> 07:44:29,290
survey shows that over a third

13493
07:44:29,290 --> 07:44:31,100
of homeowners in san jose are

13494
07:44:31,100 --> 07:44:32,260
currently cost burdened and the

13495
07:44:32,260 --> 07:44:34,210
story is far worse for renters

13496
07:44:34,210 --> 07:44:35,250
with data showing that well

13497
07:44:35,250 --> 07:44:37,800
over half of renters in our

13498
07:44:37,800 --> 07:44:39,000
city are rent burdened. I've

13499
07:44:39,000 --> 07:44:39,230
said it before and >> I'll say

13500
07:44:39,230 --> 07:44:41,800
it again that in my limited

13501
07:44:41,800 --> 07:44:43,500
time in this office addressing

13502
07:44:43,500 --> 07:44:44,800
our housing affordability

13503
07:44:44,800 --> 07:44:45,200
crisis is my number one

13504
07:44:45,200 --> 07:44:47,130
priority and the fact is that

13505
07:44:47,130 --> 07:44:48,180
we know that the root cause >>

13506
07:44:48,180 --> 07:44:50,270
of that crisis is a severe lack

13507
07:44:50,270 --> 07:44:52,270
of housing. At the same time we

13508
07:44:52,270 --> 07:44:54,000
know that the city continues to

13509
07:44:54,000 --> 07:44:55,240
fall dramatically short of all

13510
07:44:55,240 --> 07:44:57,190
of our housing goals so far

13511
07:44:57,190 --> 07:44:58,230
with the most recent progress

13512
07:44:58,230 --> 07:45:00,400
report, we're on track to meet

13513
07:45:00,400 --> 07:45:01,100
about one third of our rina >>

13514
07:45:01,100 --> 07:45:03,100
obligation foley acknowledging

13515
07:45:03,230 --> 07:45:04,230
that other cities are also

13516
07:45:04,230 --> 07:45:06,100
struggling in that department.

13517
07:45:06,100 --> 07:45:07,180
but with that translates to is

13518
07:45:07,180 --> 07:45:09,240
a shortfall of about 40,000

13519
07:45:09,240 --> 07:45:11,230
homes and critically this is

13520
07:45:11,230 --> 07:45:13,600
not some recent trend that we

13521
07:45:13,600 --> 07:45:14,150
can just attribute to the

13522
07:45:14,150 --> 07:45:15,290
pandemic or to the current

13523
07:45:15,290 --> 07:45:17,100
interest rate environment or to

13524
07:45:17,100 --> 07:45:18,290
tariffs driving up the cost

13525
07:45:18,290 --> 07:45:20,260
of materials. This is a trend

13526
07:45:20,260 --> 07:45:23,600
that has held for many years

13527
07:45:23,600 --> 07:45:24,290
and we've missed our housing

13528
07:45:24,290 --> 07:45:26,200
targets by a significant margin

13529
07:45:26,200 --> 07:45:28,420
every single year since 2014.

13530
07:45:29,140 --> 07:45:30,160
and to me that means that we do

13531
07:45:30,160 --> 07:45:32,180
need to look at new strategies.

13532
07:45:32,180 --> 07:45:33,250
I want to acknowledge that many

13533
07:45:33,250 --> 07:45:34,240
of the commenters here today

13534
07:45:34,240 --> 07:45:36,300
did clarify that they're not

13535
07:45:36,300 --> 07:45:37,110
opposed to all new housing.

13536
07:45:37,110 --> 07:45:38,150
they just question if it needs

13537
07:45:38,150 --> 07:45:39,140
to be happening in their

13538
07:45:39,140 --> 07:45:40,210
neighborhoods. And I think

13539
07:45:40,210 --> 07:45:41,250
folks have raised some very

13540
07:45:41,250 --> 07:45:43,140
well reasoned questions about

13541
07:45:43,140 --> 07:45:45,100
why we can't just meet our

13542
07:45:45,100 --> 07:45:46,130
housing goals or whether we

13543
07:45:46,130 --> 07:45:47,210
can't meet those goals by just

13544
07:45:47,210 --> 07:45:49,700
focusing on construction in our

13545
07:45:49,700 --> 07:45:51,230
urban villages and in downtown.

13546
07:45:51,230 --> 07:45:53,180
but I think that our history in

13547
07:45:53,180 --> 07:45:54,230
this domain has shown that the

13548
07:45:54,230 --> 07:45:56,400
honest answer to that question

13549
07:45:56,400 --> 07:45:58,120
is that no, we cannot. That

13550
07:45:58,120 --> 07:45:59,250
focus on trying to funnel

13551
07:45:59,250 --> 07:46:01,200
nearly all new housing growth

13552
07:46:01,200 --> 07:46:03,230
in our city into a tiny sliver

13553
07:46:03,230 --> 07:46:05,800
of our land has been the

13554
07:46:05,800 --> 07:46:06,150
dominant strategy that we have

13555
07:46:06,150 --> 07:46:07,240
pursued for housing growth

13556
07:46:07,240 --> 07:46:08,280
since the adoption of our

13557
07:46:08,280 --> 07:46:10,700
current general plan back in

13558
07:46:10,700 --> 07:46:11,240
2011. And I think if we are

13559
07:46:11,240 --> 07:46:13,200
being honest with ourselves

13560
07:46:13,200 --> 07:46:14,100
that strategy has largely

13561
07:46:14,100 --> 07:46:15,260
failed and it is the most

13562
07:46:15,260 --> 07:46:17,200
vulnerable residents in our

13563
07:46:17,200 --> 07:46:17,250
community who have

13564
07:46:17,250 --> 07:46:19,300
disproportionately borne the

13565
07:46:19,300 --> 07:46:21,110
price of that failure. So to

13566
07:46:21,110 --> 07:46:22,110
me I think it's clear we need

13567
07:46:22,110 --> 07:46:23,260
to be open to new approaches

13568
07:46:23,260 --> 07:46:25,120
here and I think as a city we

13569
07:46:25,120 --> 07:46:26,170
need to move past the notion

13570
07:46:26,170 --> 07:46:27,120
that somehow we're going to

13571
07:46:27,120 --> 07:46:28,200
meet all of the new housing

13572
07:46:28,200 --> 07:46:29,270
need for a city of a million

13573
07:46:29,270 --> 07:46:32,180
people on just the without ever

13574
07:46:32,180 --> 07:46:34,210
touching the 80 or 90% of land

13575
07:46:34,210 --> 07:46:36,300
that is currently zoned to only

13576
07:46:36,300 --> 07:46:38,230
allow single family homes. You

13577
07:46:38,230 --> 07:46:39,210
know, folks have rightfully

13578
07:46:39,210 --> 07:46:41,000
questioned what this might mean

13579
07:46:41,000 --> 07:46:42,000
in terms of changes to their

13580
07:46:42,000 --> 07:46:43,150
neighborhood. I know my husband

13581
07:46:43,150 --> 07:46:44,270
gave public comment and he

13582
07:46:44,270 --> 07:46:47,000
noted that we live in between a

13583
07:46:47,000 --> 07:46:49,100
six plex and a five plex on a

13584
07:46:49,100 --> 07:46:50,100
block that has about half

13585
07:46:50,100 --> 07:46:51,900
single family homes and half

13586
07:46:51,900 --> 07:46:52,220
small apartment buildings. I

13587
07:46:52,220 --> 07:46:53,900
don't think that I've

13588
07:46:53,900 --> 07:46:54,700
personally seen in

13589
07:46:54,700 --> 07:46:55,900
my experience the sorts

13590
07:46:55,900 --> 07:46:56,170
of quality life concerns that

13591
07:46:56,170 --> 07:46:58,300
some folks are concerned about.

13592
07:46:58,300 --> 07:47:00,600
but change is scary. But I will

13593
07:47:00,600 --> 07:47:01,220
just say that rejecting this

13594
07:47:01,220 --> 07:47:03,200
proposal will not prevent our

13595
07:47:03,200 --> 07:47:04,120
neighborhoods from changing.

13596
07:47:04,120 --> 07:47:06,600
all it will do is further the

13597
07:47:06,600 --> 07:47:07,600
trends that we are already

13598
07:47:07,600 --> 07:47:08,700
seeing with growing

13599
07:47:08,700 --> 07:47:09,150
homelessness continued

13600
07:47:09,150 --> 07:47:10,230
displacement of our most

13601
07:47:10,230 --> 07:47:12,220
vulnerable residents. We will

13602
07:47:12,220 --> 07:47:14,000
continue to see the strain on

13603
07:47:14,000 --> 07:47:15,500
all of our teachers >> and our

13604
07:47:15,500 --> 07:47:16,170
public workers and our police

13605
07:47:16,170 --> 07:47:18,100
officers who can't afford to >>

13606
07:47:18,100 --> 07:47:19,700
live in the cities that they

13607
07:47:19,700 --> 07:47:20,140
serve. And we'll see the

13608
07:47:20,140 --> 07:47:22,250
continuing impacts on families

13609
07:47:22,250 --> 07:47:24,800
as young people are priced out

13610
07:47:24,800 --> 07:47:25,100
of >> the city because they

13611
07:47:25,100 --> 07:47:26,400
realize that they can't afford

13612
07:47:26,400 --> 07:47:27,190
to raise children here. I also

13613
07:47:27,190 --> 07:47:28,230
think it is important that we

13614
07:47:28,230 --> 07:47:29,240
as a council move forward with

13615
07:47:29,240 --> 07:47:32,000
this proposal on missing little

13616
07:47:32,000 --> 07:47:34,900
housing today. I did want >> to

13617
07:47:34,900 --> 07:47:35,800
just touch on a couple of the

13618
07:47:35,800 --> 07:47:36,000
things that I heard because I

13619
07:47:36,000 --> 07:47:36,230
think there's been a lot

13620
07:47:36,230 --> 07:47:38,800
of confusion and misinformation

13621
07:47:38,800 --> 07:47:40,000
around some of these proposals.

13622
07:47:40,000 --> 07:47:41,600
you know, we repeatedly heard

13623
07:47:41,600 --> 07:47:43,600
people referencing 16 unit

13624
07:47:43,700 --> 07:47:44,160
apartment buildings, 20 unit

13625
07:47:44,160 --> 07:47:45,200
apartment buildings, people

13626
07:47:45,200 --> 07:47:46,160
saying that this will make us

13627
07:47:46,160 --> 07:47:48,100
denser than new york city. I

13628
07:47:48,100 --> 07:47:48,280
just want to be absolutely

13629
07:47:48,280 --> 07:47:50,900
crystal clear that that is not

13630
07:47:50,900 --> 07:47:52,000
what this proposal is about.

13631
07:47:52,000 --> 07:47:53,000
for the vast majority of the

13632
07:47:53,000 --> 07:47:54,120
single family lots in the city,

13633
07:47:54,120 --> 07:47:56,000
this proposal will translate to

13634
07:47:56,000 --> 07:47:57,250
a modest increase over what is

13635
07:47:57,250 --> 07:47:59,600
already allowed under state law

13636
07:47:59,600 --> 07:48:00,280
as the mayor outlined most

13637
07:48:00,280 --> 07:48:02,290
likely 2 to 6 primary homes on

13638
07:48:02,290 --> 07:48:04,100
most parcels throughout the

13639
07:48:04,100 --> 07:48:05,270
city. >> and we have also heard

13640
07:48:05,270 --> 07:48:07,210
that this proposal was extreme

13641
07:48:07,210 --> 07:48:09,130
but it is way out of alignment

13642
07:48:09,130 --> 07:48:10,200
with what other major cities

13643
07:48:10,200 --> 07:48:11,270
are doing to tackle our housing

13644
07:48:11,270 --> 07:48:13,220
crisis. I don't think that that

13645
07:48:13,220 --> 07:48:15,180
is borne out in the data that

13646
07:48:15,180 --> 07:48:16,220
I've seen and if anything I

13647
07:48:16,220 --> 07:48:17,170
think that the program that

13648
07:48:17,170 --> 07:48:18,180
we're proposing here is

13649
07:48:18,180 --> 07:48:20,500
actually much more modest than

13650
07:48:20,500 --> 07:48:21,100
what some other cities are

13651
07:48:21,100 --> 07:48:23,000
doing. A couple of years ago

13652
07:48:23,000 --> 07:48:24,100
washington state passed a law

13653
07:48:24,100 --> 07:48:26,000
that legalized six units per

13654
07:48:26,000 --> 07:48:27,170
single family parcel in every

13655
07:48:27,170 --> 07:48:29,240
single major city in the state.

13656
07:48:29,240 --> 07:48:31,100
and here in california,

13657
07:48:31,100 --> 07:48:32,110
san diego already allows seven

13658
07:48:32,110 --> 07:48:34,500
units per single person single

13659
07:48:34,500 --> 07:48:35,240
family home parcel >> which

13660
07:48:35,240 --> 07:48:37,120
works out to about 30 to 50

13661
07:48:37,120 --> 07:48:38,240
dwelling units per acre more

13662
07:48:38,240 --> 07:48:40,900
than we're proposing here in

13663
07:48:40,900 --> 07:48:41,250
berkeley as was mentioned about

13664
07:48:41,250 --> 07:48:43,170
70 dwelling units per acre more

13665
07:48:43,170 --> 07:48:44,280
than double what san jose is

13666
07:48:44,280 --> 07:48:46,160
evaluating and sacramento has

13667
07:48:46,160 --> 07:48:48,160
no density cap at all. On the

13668
07:48:48,160 --> 07:48:49,180
missing middle programs in

13669
07:48:49,180 --> 07:48:50,160
their residential zones

13670
07:48:50,160 --> 07:48:51,270
allowing ten or more units on

13671
07:48:51,270 --> 07:48:54,300
single family lots. And finally

13672
07:48:54,300 --> 07:48:54,280
I just want to speak to this

13673
07:48:54,280 --> 07:48:56,120
notion that this is not a

13674
07:48:56,120 --> 07:48:58,100
required program. You know,

13675
07:48:58,100 --> 07:48:59,000
staff has already spoke to the

13676
07:48:59,000 --> 07:49:02,000
risk of decertification by hpd

13677
07:49:02,120 --> 07:49:03,120
and I agree that that is not

13678
07:49:03,120 --> 07:49:04,000
something that would be

13679
07:49:04,000 --> 07:49:05,110
immediate but I do think it is

13680
07:49:05,110 --> 07:49:07,900
a very real risk. The city made

13681
07:49:07,900 --> 07:49:08,170
very clear commitments in our

13682
07:49:08,170 --> 07:49:09,210
housing element that we would

13683
07:49:09,210 --> 07:49:11,210
allow 4 to 10 units on parcels

13684
07:49:11,210 --> 07:49:13,400
throughout the city. We provide

13685
07:49:13,400 --> 07:49:14,240
additional metrics in terms

13686
07:49:14,240 --> 07:49:16,280
of how many total additional

13687
07:49:16,280 --> 07:49:18,140
residential units of capacity

13688
07:49:18,140 --> 07:49:20,300
would be added. And I reached

13689
07:49:20,300 --> 07:49:21,180
out to the housing

13690
07:49:21,180 --> 07:49:23,400
accountability chief with hpd

13691
07:49:23,400 --> 07:49:25,200
myself and said point blank if

13692
07:49:25,200 --> 07:49:26,130
the city tries to walk back its

13693
07:49:26,130 --> 07:49:27,210
commitments here, if we don't

13694
07:49:27,210 --> 07:49:29,300
move forward with this program

13695
07:49:29,300 --> 07:49:30,150
or if we try to downscale the

13696
07:49:30,150 --> 07:49:31,170
program below what was

13697
07:49:31,170 --> 07:49:32,110
committed in the housing

13698
07:49:32,110 --> 07:49:34,100
element, would that be grounds

13699
07:49:34,100 --> 07:49:35,170
for decertification? And she

13700
07:49:35,170 --> 07:49:37,000
said quote yes. Should the city

13701
07:49:37,000 --> 07:49:37,270
choose not to implement the

13702
07:49:37,270 --> 07:49:39,140
housing programs it should can

13703
07:49:39,140 --> 07:49:40,240
review the inaction and revoke

13704
07:49:40,240 --> 07:49:42,150
its finding of compliance. So I

13705
07:49:42,150 --> 07:49:43,270
think that the >> potential

13706
07:49:43,270 --> 07:49:45,180
ramifications here we cannot

13707
07:49:45,180 --> 07:49:46,260
pretend as if they are

13708
07:49:46,260 --> 07:49:48,240
imaginary. Finally, since I

13709
07:49:48,240 --> 07:49:49,270
know there were some questions

13710
07:49:49,270 --> 07:49:51,140
about the memo from myself and

13711
07:49:51,140 --> 07:49:52,900
council member committee, I

13712
07:49:52,900 --> 07:49:53,120
want to speak to a couple

13713
07:49:53,120 --> 07:49:55,000
of those items. I think the one

13714
07:49:55,000 --> 07:49:56,800
that we are most excited about

13715
07:49:56,800 --> 07:49:57,140
or I'm most excited about I

13716
07:49:57,140 --> 07:49:59,140
won't speak for my colleague is

13717
07:49:59,140 --> 07:50:01,200
the local density bonus

13718
07:50:01,200 --> 07:50:02,900
program. And I think it's

13719
07:50:02,900 --> 07:50:03,240
actually timely that we are

13720
07:50:03,240 --> 07:50:05,200
hearing this item now because

13721
07:50:05,200 --> 07:50:07,170
we just saw with item 10.2 a

13722
07:50:07,170 --> 07:50:09,600
missing middle housing

13723
07:50:09,600 --> 07:50:10,190
application that we're actually

13724
07:50:10,190 --> 07:50:12,170
leveraging state density bonus

13725
07:50:12,170 --> 07:50:14,800
law and with that application

13726
07:50:14,800 --> 07:50:15,120
we saw that they waived height

13727
07:50:15,120 --> 07:50:16,220
limits, they waived

13728
07:50:16,220 --> 07:50:17,190
requirements around lot

13729
07:50:17,190 --> 07:50:19,210
coverage, they waived setbacks.

13730
07:50:19,210 --> 07:50:20,210
they basically got to just

13731
07:50:20,210 --> 07:50:21,280
ignore all of the local

13732
07:50:21,280 --> 07:50:23,900
development >> standards that

13733
07:50:23,900 --> 07:50:25,290
we as a city set. So the idea

13734
07:50:25,290 --> 07:50:27,190
behind this program is that

13735
07:50:27,190 --> 07:50:29,800
since legally the city cannot

13736
07:50:29,800 --> 07:50:30,180
prevent >> builders from

13737
07:50:30,180 --> 07:50:31,290
pursuing this state density >>

13738
07:50:31,290 --> 07:50:34,130
bonus but what we could do is

13739
07:50:34,130 --> 07:50:35,240
provide an appealing local

13740
07:50:35,240 --> 07:50:37,600
alternative >> density bonus

13741
07:50:37,600 --> 07:50:38,160
program that actually does

13742
07:50:38,160 --> 07:50:40,170
preserve local control. So that

13743
07:50:40,170 --> 07:50:41,250
is the intent of what is

13744
07:50:41,250 --> 07:50:43,210
recommended in our memo. We can

13745
07:50:43,210 --> 07:50:45,900
set up an alternative local

13746
07:50:45,900 --> 07:50:47,200
pathway that they can pursue

13747
07:50:47,200 --> 07:50:48,150
that does require that

13748
07:50:48,150 --> 07:50:49,290
applicants adhere to local

13749
07:50:49,290 --> 07:50:51,100
development standards things

13750
07:50:51,100 --> 07:50:52,230
like building heights setbacks

13751
07:50:52,230 --> 07:50:54,120
and open space requirements.

13752
07:50:54,120 --> 07:50:55,120
and we can use that to provide

13753
07:50:55,120 --> 07:50:56,260
an incentive for builders

13754
07:50:56,260 --> 07:50:58,300
of missing little programs to

13755
07:50:58,300 --> 07:50:59,000
actually make sure that they're

13756
07:50:59,000 --> 07:50:59,270
building missing little

13757
07:50:59,270 --> 07:51:01,160
projects that are a good fit

13758
07:51:01,160 --> 07:51:03,290
for our community. And then

13759
07:51:03,290 --> 07:51:06,000
just speaking again on the

13760
07:51:06,000 --> 07:51:07,100
increased height limits that

13761
07:51:07,100 --> 07:51:08,260
are proposed near downtown

13762
07:51:08,260 --> 07:51:10,160
transit hubs, I'm fairly open

13763
07:51:10,160 --> 07:51:12,140
minded here. I would defer to

13764
07:51:12,140 --> 07:51:13,260
staff in terms of what they

13765
07:51:13,260 --> 07:51:15,170
evaluate as appropriate here.

13766
07:51:15,170 --> 07:51:16,250
we have been primarily trying

13767
07:51:16,250 --> 07:51:18,150
to target the kind of highest

13768
07:51:18,150 --> 07:51:20,800
capacity transit nodes that are

13769
07:51:20,800 --> 07:51:22,300
already in existing denser

13770
07:51:22,300 --> 07:51:24,700
neighborhoods that have kind

13771
07:51:24,700 --> 07:51:25,130
of well connected

13772
07:51:25,130 --> 07:51:27,130
pedestrianized grid networks.

13773
07:51:27,150 --> 07:51:28,200
understanding that some

13774
07:51:28,200 --> 07:51:30,300
of those, you know, peripheral

13775
07:51:30,300 --> 07:51:31,210
downtown transit hubs are close

13776
07:51:31,210 --> 07:51:33,150
to the freeway. Maybe there is

13777
07:51:33,150 --> 07:51:34,190
not a clear walking path to

13778
07:51:34,190 --> 07:51:35,260
actually get to the other side

13779
07:51:35,260 --> 07:51:37,400
of the freeway. So we would

13780
07:51:37,400 --> 07:51:38,140
just recommend that staff come

13781
07:51:38,140 --> 07:51:39,270
back with some recommendations

13782
07:51:39,270 --> 07:51:41,100
around this specific subset

13783
07:51:41,100 --> 07:51:43,000
of downtown downtown transit

13784
07:51:43,000 --> 07:51:44,800
stations that they think would

13785
07:51:44,800 --> 07:51:45,290
be appropriate for this kind

13786
07:51:45,290 --> 07:51:46,290
of increased but still

13787
07:51:46,290 --> 07:51:48,800
transitional height limit

13788
07:51:48,800 --> 07:51:51,500
of 45ft. So with >> oh sorry I

13789
07:51:51,500 --> 07:51:52,200
was just going to say I'm going

13790
07:51:52,200 --> 07:51:53,900
to take those those sound like

13791
07:51:53,900 --> 07:51:54,120
friendly amendments. I want to

13792
07:51:54,120 --> 07:51:55,170
give you and councilor cohen an

13793
07:51:55,170 --> 07:51:57,700
opportunity to maybe dialog and

13794
07:51:57,700 --> 07:51:58,800
see if that gets you. >>

13795
07:51:58,800 --> 07:51:59,800
absolutely. I was going to

13796
07:51:59,800 --> 07:52:00,130
request a friendly amendment

13797
07:52:00,130 --> 07:52:02,170
for the elements that were left

13798
07:52:02,170 --> 07:52:03,290
out of the original motion

13799
07:52:03,290 --> 07:52:06,100
which I believe is item one and

13800
07:52:06,100 --> 07:52:09,600
item four >> and four wasn't

13801
07:52:09,600 --> 07:52:10,120
left out. I put it in but I

13802
07:52:10,120 --> 07:52:11,110
just want to make sure there's

13803
07:52:11,110 --> 07:52:12,230
clarification and I, I guess I

13804
07:52:12,230 --> 07:52:14,120
can ask staff on this one it's

13805
07:52:14,120 --> 07:52:15,170
I mean I don't want to

13806
07:52:15,170 --> 07:52:16,290
wordsmith and try to decide

13807
07:52:16,290 --> 07:52:19,180
what downtown means today but

13808
07:52:19,180 --> 07:52:20,180
you would interpret this to

13809
07:52:20,180 --> 07:52:21,160
mean you would come back with a

13810
07:52:21,160 --> 07:52:22,250
reasonable program that would

13811
07:52:22,250 --> 07:52:24,600
allow some flexibility on where

13812
07:52:24,600 --> 07:52:25,500
the boundaries are, where it

13813
07:52:25,500 --> 07:52:27,100
would apply. That's correct.

13814
07:52:27,100 --> 07:52:28,800
okay. So that's I mean we

13815
07:52:28,800 --> 07:52:29,240
already included that one. The

13816
07:52:29,240 --> 07:52:30,180
other one I just want to ask

13817
07:52:30,180 --> 07:52:31,250
the question so the advantage

13818
07:52:31,250 --> 07:52:34,000
of this is a >> a speed

13819
07:52:34,000 --> 07:52:35,400
question. They could do it

13820
07:52:35,400 --> 07:52:36,600
faster >> than they could with

13821
07:52:36,600 --> 07:52:37,800
the state density bonus or

13822
07:52:37,800 --> 07:52:39,000
what's the well, I guess I just

13823
07:52:39,000 --> 07:52:40,180
was curious about what would

13824
07:52:40,180 --> 07:52:41,290
lead somebody to choose the

13825
07:52:41,290 --> 07:52:43,180
local versus the state density

13826
07:52:43,180 --> 07:52:45,500
bonus. I think a component

13827
07:52:45,500 --> 07:52:46,290
of it could be speed. I think

13828
07:52:46,290 --> 07:52:48,500
it could also be based on what

13829
07:52:48,500 --> 07:52:49,220
other other requirements staff

13830
07:52:49,220 --> 07:52:51,600
would recommend including as

13831
07:52:51,600 --> 07:52:53,700
criteria for pursuing the local

13832
07:52:53,700 --> 07:52:55,000
path. I think we would need

13833
07:52:55,000 --> 07:52:56,110
something if we're going to ask

13834
07:52:56,110 --> 07:52:58,150
developers to kind of waive the

13835
07:52:58,150 --> 07:53:00,260
ability to exceed local design

13836
07:53:00,260 --> 07:53:02,160
standards. So maybe that means

13837
07:53:02,160 --> 07:53:03,100
that we adjust the

13838
07:53:03,100 --> 07:53:04,250
affordability thresholds to tap

13839
07:53:04,250 --> 07:53:06,700
into the density bonus program.

13840
07:53:06,700 --> 07:53:07,150
maybe it means a faster

13841
07:53:07,150 --> 07:53:09,300
guaranteed many ministerial

13842
07:53:09,300 --> 07:53:10,240
permit timeline. I just think

13843
07:53:10,240 --> 07:53:11,190
that it would be valuable to

13844
07:53:11,190 --> 07:53:13,200
have a local alternative so

13845
07:53:13,200 --> 07:53:13,280
that we don't see all of these

13846
07:53:13,280 --> 07:53:15,500
projects just tapping into

13847
07:53:15,500 --> 07:53:16,200
state density bonus law to

13848
07:53:16,200 --> 07:53:17,170
exceed any development

13849
07:53:17,170 --> 07:53:19,180
standards that staff comes up

13850
07:53:19,180 --> 07:53:20,170
with in partnership with our >>

13851
07:53:20,170 --> 07:53:21,150
communities. I think it's an

13852
07:53:21,150 --> 07:53:22,110
intriguing >> idea. Let me just

13853
07:53:22,110 --> 07:53:23,150
ask one question of staff on

13854
07:53:23,150 --> 07:53:25,200
this one. You know, there's a

13855
07:53:25,200 --> 07:53:26,500
lot of stuff being loaded on

13856
07:53:26,500 --> 07:53:26,270
here. There's a lot of other

13857
07:53:26,270 --> 07:53:27,260
stuff being worked on. So just

13858
07:53:27,260 --> 07:53:30,300
what is your feeling about what

13859
07:53:30,300 --> 07:53:31,230
this does to the timeline

13860
07:53:31,230 --> 07:53:33,190
of this or the your your

13861
07:53:33,190 --> 07:53:35,230
ability to to create such a

13862
07:53:35,230 --> 07:53:37,180
program as well also doing all

13863
07:53:37,180 --> 07:53:38,150
the other things that are being

13864
07:53:38,150 --> 07:53:41,150
asked for >> here. So so we

13865
07:53:41,150 --> 07:53:42,400
agree there's a lot

13866
07:53:42,400 --> 07:53:43,200
of opportunity here and I

13867
07:53:43,200 --> 07:53:44,170
actually think you know there's

13868
07:53:44,170 --> 07:53:46,700
a lot of really good work for

13869
07:53:46,700 --> 07:53:48,600
us to do. Obviously would love

13870
07:53:48,600 --> 07:53:49,800
to be able to do it all as

13871
07:53:49,800 --> 07:53:51,100
quickly as possible. So we're

13872
07:53:51,100 --> 07:53:52,140
currently in the process

13873
07:53:52,140 --> 07:53:54,160
of doing that analysis so we

13874
07:53:54,160 --> 07:53:56,140
can come back on october 6th to

13875
07:53:56,140 --> 07:53:58,700
have the conversation. I think

13876
07:53:58,700 --> 07:53:59,900
part of that was waiting for

13877
07:53:59,900 --> 07:54:00,150
this conversation so we could

13878
07:54:00,150 --> 07:54:02,290
see what kind of gets added.

13879
07:54:02,290 --> 07:54:04,120
some of it gets sequenced in

13880
07:54:04,120 --> 07:54:05,170
right and there's a sequential

13881
07:54:05,170 --> 07:54:06,270
aspect. Some of it needs to be

13882
07:54:06,270 --> 07:54:08,700
prioritized and we have to make

13883
07:54:08,700 --> 07:54:10,130
choices of some aspects ahead

13884
07:54:10,130 --> 07:54:12,260
of others. So I think, you

13885
07:54:12,260 --> 07:54:14,000
know, we'll need to hear how

13886
07:54:14,000 --> 07:54:15,220
the conversation goes and then

13887
07:54:15,220 --> 07:54:17,100
come back on october 6th with a

13888
07:54:17,100 --> 07:54:18,270
sort of full analysis. But

13889
07:54:18,270 --> 07:54:20,270
again, I think it would fit

13890
07:54:20,270 --> 07:54:23,900
within that context and and you

13891
07:54:23,900 --> 07:54:24,110
know, it's appropriate for us

13892
07:54:24,110 --> 07:54:25,120
to look at it though. So so >>

13893
07:54:25,120 --> 07:54:26,110
I will accept it with the

13894
07:54:26,110 --> 07:54:28,180
understanding. I think that

13895
07:54:28,180 --> 07:54:30,800
amongst the dozens of things we

13896
07:54:30,800 --> 07:54:31,140
have asked over the years for

13897
07:54:31,140 --> 07:54:32,250
this department to handle, we

13898
07:54:32,250 --> 07:54:33,290
will be prioritizing all

13899
07:54:33,290 --> 07:54:35,300
of those in october and this

13900
07:54:35,300 --> 07:54:35,270
will be part of that

13901
07:54:35,270 --> 07:54:38,170
conversation. So that would be

13902
07:54:38,170 --> 07:54:39,180
yeah, I foley expect that this

13903
07:54:39,180 --> 07:54:41,100
should be prioritized alongside

13904
07:54:41,100 --> 07:54:42,200
everything else on staff's, you

13905
07:54:42,200 --> 07:54:44,700
know, hefty plate. The only

13906
07:54:44,700 --> 07:54:45,400
other thing that we'll note and

13907
07:54:45,400 --> 07:54:46,800
we noted this in the memo as

13908
07:54:46,800 --> 07:54:47,230
well is that another housing

13909
07:54:47,230 --> 07:54:48,270
element program that the city

13910
07:54:48,270 --> 07:54:50,150
did commit to was evaluating

13911
07:54:50,150 --> 07:54:51,250
expanding our at the local

13912
07:54:51,250 --> 07:54:53,250
density >> bonus opportunities.

13913
07:54:54,300 --> 07:54:54,230
so we think that this is

13914
07:54:54,230 --> 07:54:56,000
actually aligned with existing

13915
07:54:56,000 --> 07:54:56,290
work that staff has already

13916
07:54:56,290 --> 07:54:58,400
tentatively committed to for

13917
07:54:58,400 --> 07:54:59,280
2027 in the housing >> element.

13918
07:54:59,280 --> 07:55:02,600
>> I got to ask this. Sorry I

13919
07:55:02,600 --> 07:55:04,200
have to ask the second or if

13920
07:55:04,200 --> 07:55:05,290
she'll accept this so so you're

13921
07:55:05,290 --> 07:55:07,160
>> accepting it as a friendly

13922
07:55:07,160 --> 07:55:08,230
amendment? I'm concerned about

13923
07:55:08,230 --> 07:55:10,180
the scope that it's adding on

13924
07:55:10,180 --> 07:55:14,900
to staff and I just hate to add

13925
07:55:14,900 --> 07:55:15,160
something to staff and then

13926
07:55:15,160 --> 07:55:18,700
come back on october 2nd six

13927
07:55:18,700 --> 07:55:19,200
and we all say oh yeah, that's

13928
07:55:19,200 --> 07:55:21,150
too much. And now we've taken

13929
07:55:21,150 --> 07:55:23,250
it away. What's your what's

13930
07:55:23,250 --> 07:55:26,110
your. I mean if it says to be

13931
07:55:26,110 --> 07:55:28,800
reviewed as a priority in

13932
07:55:28,800 --> 07:55:29,100
october 6th I'm happy with

13933
07:55:29,100 --> 07:55:31,190
that. >> yeah, I think that

13934
07:55:31,190 --> 07:55:33,500
makes sense to us. Again, we

13935
07:55:33,500 --> 07:55:36,240
have to there's a let me pause

13936
07:55:36,240 --> 07:55:38,110
for a second. There's obviously

13937
07:55:38,110 --> 07:55:40,140
a finite capacity into how much

13938
07:55:40,140 --> 07:55:42,500
work we can get done. You know,

13939
07:55:42,500 --> 07:55:43,130
certainly within the next six

13940
07:55:43,130 --> 07:55:44,270
months we have plans and our

13941
07:55:44,270 --> 07:55:46,160
work plan across the next 3 to

13942
07:55:46,160 --> 07:55:49,300
5 years. You know, really what

13943
07:55:49,300 --> 07:55:50,170
we're looking at is is not to

13944
07:55:50,170 --> 07:55:52,400
sort of say none of this is

13945
07:55:52,400 --> 07:55:53,170
good work. It's about how does

13946
07:55:53,170 --> 07:55:55,000
it sequence and how does it fit

13947
07:55:55,000 --> 07:55:56,170
together. And that's really the

13948
07:55:56,170 --> 07:55:57,250
priority conversation that

13949
07:55:57,250 --> 07:55:59,160
we'll be having in october.

13950
07:55:59,160 --> 07:56:01,900
it's not to say hey, throw all

13951
07:56:01,900 --> 07:56:02,100
of this stuff out. We don't

13952
07:56:02,100 --> 07:56:03,110
want to do it anymore. It's

13953
07:56:03,110 --> 07:56:04,210
about hey, we really need to do

13954
07:56:04,210 --> 07:56:06,190
this work up front. So you

13955
07:56:06,190 --> 07:56:08,419
know, probably highest priority

13956
07:56:09,600 --> 07:56:10,220
for us is the work that we will

13957
07:56:10,220 --> 07:56:11,190
sort of get out of this

13958
07:56:11,190 --> 07:56:13,170
conversation to move forward

13959
07:56:13,170 --> 07:56:14,290
those programs in the existing

13960
07:56:14,290 --> 07:56:16,800
housing element and prepare us

13961
07:56:16,800 --> 07:56:17,290
for the next housing element as

13962
07:56:17,290 --> 07:56:19,800
well as anything that touches

13963
07:56:19,800 --> 07:56:20,150
existing state laws that we're

13964
07:56:20,150 --> 07:56:21,290
trying to implement. So we

13965
07:56:21,290 --> 07:56:23,100
would fit it in within that

13966
07:56:23,100 --> 07:56:24,170
context and then look at the

13967
07:56:24,170 --> 07:56:25,270
rest of you know, what's on the

13968
07:56:25,270 --> 07:56:28,500
plate to make a best guess

13969
07:56:28,500 --> 07:56:29,130
at how that then sequences

13970
07:56:29,130 --> 07:56:32,130
after. >> oh okay. All except

13971
07:56:32,190 --> 07:56:36,700
it in in those terms. But it's

13972
07:56:36,700 --> 07:56:39,700
very complicated and for for

13973
07:56:39,240 --> 07:56:41,150
me to understand it I'm having

13974
07:56:41,150 --> 07:56:43,700
a hard time getting my head

13975
07:56:43,700 --> 07:56:45,600
around what the implications

13976
07:56:45,600 --> 07:56:46,210
are, what are the unintended

13977
07:56:46,210 --> 07:56:48,210
unintended consequences of it

13978
07:56:48,210 --> 07:56:51,140
so I think by october 6th when

13979
07:56:51,140 --> 07:56:53,600
it comes back we'll be able to

13980
07:56:53,600 --> 07:56:54,240
have more of a discussion about

13981
07:56:54,240 --> 07:56:56,250
unintended consequences of it.

13982
07:56:56,250 --> 07:56:58,900
but but for now I'll accept it

13983
07:56:58,900 --> 07:57:00,250
as a friendly amendment. Okay.

13984
07:57:00,250 --> 07:57:02,800
and councilor >> richards, you

13985
07:57:02,800 --> 07:57:03,900
had the floor. Was that your

13986
07:57:03,900 --> 07:57:04,230
last your last piece? Okay,

13987
07:57:04,230 --> 07:57:05,270
great. So I'm going to turn now

13988
07:57:05,270 --> 07:57:07,240
to thank you and I'll turn to

13989
07:57:07,240 --> 07:57:09,424
councilmember condell us. Thank

13990
07:57:10,120 --> 07:57:12,200
>> you, mayor. First of all,

13991
07:57:12,200 --> 07:57:13,160
thank you to chris and your

13992
07:57:13,160 --> 07:57:15,240
staff for the work today and

13993
07:57:15,240 --> 07:57:17,100
also for the presentation this

13994
07:57:17,100 --> 07:57:18,140
evening as as well as to

13995
07:57:18,140 --> 07:57:20,210
my brown art group for >> their

13996
07:57:20,210 --> 07:57:22,180
conversation and engagement and

13997
07:57:22,180 --> 07:57:24,200
policy debate that we had the

13998
07:57:24,200 --> 07:57:26,900
last couple of weeks. And you

13999
07:57:26,900 --> 07:57:27,190
know, I also >> want to take a

14000
07:57:27,190 --> 07:57:29,000
brief moment to folks who are

14001
07:57:29,000 --> 07:57:30,400
still >> here or listening on

14002
07:57:30,400 --> 07:57:33,170
line who came out and spoke on

14003
07:57:33,170 --> 07:57:35,700
this item. You know this is a

14004
07:57:35,700 --> 07:57:37,407
major moment for policymaking

14005
07:57:38,000 --> 07:57:40,130
in our city and our impacts and

14006
07:57:40,130 --> 07:57:41,140
our community's voice is

14007
07:57:41,140 --> 07:57:42,150
important in helping us

14008
07:57:42,150 --> 07:57:43,280
understand the impact of our

14009
07:57:43,280 --> 07:57:45,220
decisions. And you know, there

14010
07:57:45,220 --> 07:57:46,230
are there are a few areas that

14011
07:57:46,230 --> 07:57:48,160
I want to speak to and the

14012
07:57:48,160 --> 07:57:51,616
first is yes, state law has

14013
07:57:52,400 --> 07:57:54,400
already taken a lot of land use

14014
07:57:54,400 --> 07:57:56,404
authority from cities. However,

14015
07:57:57,140 --> 07:57:59,400
there is a difference to what

14016
07:57:59,400 --> 07:58:01,700
could be done to what is being

14017
07:58:01,700 --> 07:58:03,170
proposed as someone who earlier

14018
07:58:03,170 --> 07:58:04,150
noted I don't know if they're

14019
07:58:04,150 --> 07:58:06,130
still here there appears that

14020
07:58:06,130 --> 07:58:07,260
we're quote unquote overdoing

14021
07:58:07,260 --> 07:58:09,280
it. And you know, I'm going to

14022
07:58:09,280 --> 07:58:11,250
be blunt. I believe that we're

14023
07:58:11,250 --> 07:58:13,130
being asked to essentially take

14024
07:58:13,130 --> 07:58:16,100
a shortcut a one size fits all

14025
07:58:16,100 --> 07:58:18,170
approach that treats the entire

14026
07:58:18,170 --> 07:58:20,160
city as if every neighborhood

14027
07:58:20,160 --> 07:58:22,120
is the same not not to mention

14028
07:58:22,120 --> 07:58:23,280
proposed projects under this

14029
07:58:23,280 --> 07:58:26,230
program are by right >> I make

14030
07:58:26,230 --> 07:58:28,260
little to no public comment.

14031
07:58:28,260 --> 07:58:29,270
again from the staff

14032
07:58:29,270 --> 07:58:31,200
recommendation raising the

14033
07:58:31,200 --> 07:58:32,240
density limit from eight units

14034
07:58:32,240 --> 07:58:35,300
per acre to 32 units per acre

14035
07:58:35,300 --> 07:58:37,100
across roughly 85% of our

14036
07:58:37,100 --> 07:58:39,300
of our residential >> land. You

14037
07:58:39,300 --> 07:58:41,150
know it's not thoughtful enough

14038
07:58:41,150 --> 07:58:43,415
this blanket this blanketing

14039
07:58:44,110 --> 07:58:45,200
of the city with a single

14040
07:58:45,200 --> 07:58:48,800
number and calling it progress.

14041
07:58:48,800 --> 07:58:50,180
and while yes it's it's under

14042
07:58:50,180 --> 07:58:52,200
state law developers can

14043
07:58:52,200 --> 07:58:53,130
already get these densities

14044
07:58:53,130 --> 07:58:55,600
it's not our policy it's state

14045
07:58:55,600 --> 07:58:57,120
law and so san jose is not

14046
07:58:57,120 --> 07:59:00,700
uniform. San jose has different

14047
07:59:00,700 --> 07:59:01,240
neighborhoods that sit near

14048
07:59:01,240 --> 07:59:03,240
frequent transit walkable

14049
07:59:03,250 --> 07:59:05,190
commercial corridors, existing

14050
07:59:05,190 --> 07:59:07,100
infrastructure, other

14051
07:59:07,100 --> 07:59:09,230
neighborhoods not so much. And

14052
07:59:09,230 --> 07:59:11,500
by choosing this blanket

14053
07:59:11,500 --> 07:59:12,150
approach I think we avoid the

14054
07:59:12,150 --> 07:59:14,150
harder work of identifying

14055
07:59:14,150 --> 07:59:16,180
which areas we can genuinely

14056
07:59:16,180 --> 07:59:18,240
support more housing sequencing

14057
07:59:18,240 --> 07:59:20,200
the transit and infrastructure

14058
07:59:20,200 --> 07:59:22,200
investments and writing

14059
07:59:22,160 --> 07:59:23,170
standards that respect

14060
07:59:23,170 --> 07:59:25,170
different neighborhoods context

14061
07:59:25,290 --> 07:59:27,429
things like egress, ingress,

14062
07:59:28,400 --> 07:59:30,300
public safety response times,

14063
07:59:30,300 --> 07:59:31,150
parking minimums and

14064
07:59:31,150 --> 07:59:33,700
development standards. You

14065
07:59:33,700 --> 07:59:35,600
know, instead of doing the the

14066
07:59:35,600 --> 07:59:36,240
careful analysis, I think the

14067
07:59:36,240 --> 07:59:38,600
proposal simply multiplies the

14068
07:59:38,600 --> 07:59:39,280
density number of by four and

14069
07:59:39,280 --> 07:59:42,700
applies it citywide. You know,

14070
07:59:42,700 --> 07:59:44,800
I want to be clear that, you >>

14071
07:59:44,800 --> 07:59:45,150
know, this is not an opposition

14072
07:59:45,150 --> 07:59:47,400
to housing as several folks

14073
07:59:47,400 --> 07:59:48,180
have said that it's opposition

14074
07:59:48,180 --> 07:59:51,140
to what appears to be careless

14075
07:59:51,140 --> 07:59:53,000
housing policy and the

14076
07:59:53,000 --> 07:59:54,110
unintended consequences that

14077
07:59:54,110 --> 07:59:56,140
may create. And you know, I

14078
07:59:56,140 --> 07:59:58,700
think we deserve a thoughtful

14079
07:59:58,700 --> 07:59:59,110
approach that respects the

14080
07:59:59,110 --> 08:00:00,700
differences between our

14081
08:00:00,700 --> 08:00:02,400
neighborhoods and recognizes

14082
08:00:02,400 --> 08:00:03,280
that once density grants a

14083
08:00:03,280 --> 08:00:05,150
rights are granted, they're

14084
08:00:05,150 --> 08:00:07,800
extremely we can't we can't

14085
08:00:07,800 --> 08:00:08,200
take it back. We know the state

14086
08:00:08,200 --> 08:00:10,270
law doesn't let us down so and

14087
08:00:10,270 --> 08:00:12,210
so you know, when this comes

14088
08:00:12,210 --> 08:00:15,600
back to us next december, our

14089
08:00:15,600 --> 08:00:16,120
options are going to be limited

14090
08:00:16,120 --> 08:00:18,000
based on the alternatives and

14091
08:00:18,000 --> 08:00:19,110
the direction we provide staff

14092
08:00:19,110 --> 08:00:21,600
today. So that's what makes

14093
08:00:21,600 --> 08:00:22,190
this this conversation that

14094
08:00:22,190 --> 08:00:25,800
much more vital. You know, I

14095
08:00:25,800 --> 08:00:26,170
think there's there's there's

14096
08:00:26,170 --> 08:00:27,230
an important point that I want

14097
08:00:27,230 --> 08:00:29,160
to quickly touch on is you

14098
08:00:29,160 --> 08:00:31,000
know, there's a power dynamic

14099
08:00:31,000 --> 08:00:32,130
with with cd that it

14100
08:00:32,130 --> 08:00:34,140
essentially forces our hand to

14101
08:00:34,140 --> 08:00:36,220
make decisions you know that

14102
08:00:36,220 --> 08:00:39,150
that are you know can perceived

14103
08:00:39,150 --> 08:00:41,500
to be against our residents and

14104
08:00:41,500 --> 08:00:42,800
the will of our residents the

14105
08:00:42,800 --> 08:00:44,000
people who for us on the dais

14106
08:00:44,000 --> 08:00:46,700
who voted us in. And so you

14107
08:00:46,700 --> 08:00:47,240
know I don't I don't buy this I

14108
08:00:47,240 --> 08:00:49,100
believe we have the right to

14109
08:00:49,100 --> 08:00:51,000
implement a program as we see

14110
08:00:51,000 --> 08:00:53,900
fit. And so when it comes to

14111
08:00:53,900 --> 08:00:54,170
housing affordability and

14112
08:00:54,170 --> 08:00:56,220
spurring development, I've seen

14113
08:00:56,220 --> 08:00:57,270
our council take a balanced

14114
08:00:57,270 --> 08:01:00,160
approach to not only taking

14115
08:01:00,160 --> 08:01:02,230
every option available to us to

14116
08:01:02,230 --> 08:01:04,500
make a difference but doing so

14117
08:01:04,500 --> 08:01:05,100
in a way that doesn't

14118
08:01:05,100 --> 08:01:07,000
compromise our city's fiscal

14119
08:01:07,000 --> 08:01:08,120
sustainability and the quality

14120
08:01:08,120 --> 08:01:09,240
of life for our residents. You

14121
08:01:09,240 --> 08:01:11,170
know, in march 2025 this

14122
08:01:11,170 --> 08:01:13,170
council unanimously adopted

14123
08:01:14,400 --> 08:01:16,900
direction to the administration

14124
08:01:16,900 --> 08:01:18,220
to explore densify outside

14125
08:01:18,220 --> 08:01:19,210
of our growth areas where the

14126
08:01:19,210 --> 08:01:21,210
market dictated excluding

14127
08:01:22,700 --> 08:01:24,220
excluding high vmt >> areas,

14128
08:01:24,220 --> 08:01:25,280
having empty areas have been

14129
08:01:25,280 --> 08:01:27,190
identified as part of our city

14130
08:01:27,190 --> 08:01:29,200
that lack reliable transit

14131
08:01:29,200 --> 08:01:31,600
options with limited routes for

14132
08:01:31,600 --> 08:01:32,120
for again getting in and out

14133
08:01:32,120 --> 08:01:34,600
of it out of those areas we

14134
08:01:34,600 --> 08:01:35,170
have deemed these areas read on

14135
08:01:35,170 --> 08:01:39,100
a map for a reason and again a

14136
08:01:39,100 --> 08:01:40,240
couple of months later in june

14137
08:01:40,240 --> 08:01:42,160
2025 staff returned with the

14138
08:01:42,160 --> 08:01:44,000
memo mirroring the language

14139
08:01:44,000 --> 08:01:45,240
that was proposed in the scope

14140
08:01:45,240 --> 08:01:46,270
of work for the general plan

14141
08:01:46,270 --> 08:01:49,190
four year review and I quote

14142
08:01:49,190 --> 08:01:50,230
staff will include in the

14143
08:01:50,230 --> 08:01:52,290
analysis city council direction

14144
08:01:52,290 --> 08:01:54,400
from the march budget message

14145
08:01:54,400 --> 08:01:55,120
to expand growth areas to where

14146
08:01:55,120 --> 08:01:56,200
there is current market demand

14147
08:01:56,200 --> 08:01:58,210
for housing and employment uses

14148
08:01:58,210 --> 08:02:00,180
except in areas with a medical

14149
08:02:00,180 --> 08:02:02,418
>> vmt impacts this direction

14150
08:02:04,150 --> 08:02:06,800
was approved unanimously by

14151
08:02:06,800 --> 08:02:08,170
this council and yet the

14152
08:02:08,170 --> 08:02:10,500
recommendations before us takes

14153
08:02:10,500 --> 08:02:12,240
us to a different path applying

14154
08:02:12,240 --> 08:02:15,150
uniform density across the city

14155
08:02:15,150 --> 08:02:17,200
than the more targeted approach

14156
08:02:17,200 --> 08:02:18,800
and I understand the concerns

14157
08:02:18,800 --> 08:02:20,270
as explained by staff. I get it

14158
08:02:20,270 --> 08:02:23,270
but it's very disheartening to

14159
08:02:23,270 --> 08:02:26,200
to be here and not have this

14160
08:02:26,200 --> 08:02:28,210
flag or not have the concerns

14161
08:02:28,210 --> 08:02:30,130
of potential decertification as

14162
08:02:30,130 --> 08:02:33,130
a threat beforehand >> and or

14163
08:02:33,210 --> 08:02:35,800
you know, at the 11th hour

14164
08:02:35,800 --> 08:02:37,140
getting a phone call from aicd

14165
08:02:37,140 --> 08:02:39,700
essentially saying hey, you're

14166
08:02:39,700 --> 08:02:42,700
going to be decertified and

14167
08:02:42,700 --> 08:02:43,250
yes, it's not overnight and

14168
08:02:43,250 --> 08:02:45,230
yes, it's a series of lack

14169
08:02:45,230 --> 08:02:47,000
of implementation of what we

14170
08:02:47,000 --> 08:02:48,140
said we were going to do

14171
08:02:48,140 --> 08:02:49,180
through the through the housing

14172
08:02:49,180 --> 08:02:52,140
element. But it just does not

14173
08:02:52,140 --> 08:02:53,250
sit well with me. And you know,

14174
08:02:53,250 --> 08:02:55,200
I appreciate

14175
08:02:55,200 --> 08:02:57,402
councilmember cohen's motion

14176
08:02:58,400 --> 08:02:59,230
and the ability to try to get

14177
08:02:59,230 --> 08:03:02,130
something but but I just wanted

14178
08:03:02,130 --> 08:03:05,270
to express my frustration and I

14179
08:03:05,270 --> 08:03:08,000
in the spirit of of

14180
08:03:08,000 --> 08:03:09,210
collaboration I may offer up a

14181
08:03:09,210 --> 08:03:11,270
few more comments but that's

14182
08:03:11,270 --> 08:03:13,600
that's I look forward to

14183
08:03:13,600 --> 08:03:14,110
hearing from the rest of my

14184
08:03:14,110 --> 08:03:15,900
colleagues before I do so >>

14185
08:03:15,900 --> 08:03:17,900
thanks. Thanks.

14186
08:03:17,170 --> 08:03:19,170
councilmember >>. >> all right.

14187
08:03:22,210 --> 08:03:24,100
let's go to

14188
08:03:24,100 --> 08:03:26,401
councilmember ortiz. Thank you,

14189
08:03:27,200 --> 08:03:29,800
mayor. I want to start by

14190
08:03:29,800 --> 08:03:30,260
thanking city staff the

14191
08:03:30,260 --> 08:03:32,200
planning commission for all

14192
08:03:32,200 --> 08:03:34,100
your work that has gone into

14193
08:03:34,100 --> 08:03:36,600
this four year review. I >>

14194
08:03:36,600 --> 08:03:38,200
want to begin just with one

14195
08:03:38,200 --> 08:03:39,600
of the additions in our memo

14196
08:03:39,600 --> 08:03:40,180
that I believe is particularly

14197
08:03:40,180 --> 08:03:42,220
important for serious >> about

14198
08:03:42,220 --> 08:03:44,800
meeting our housing goals. Then

14199
08:03:44,800 --> 08:03:45,290
we also need to look at our own

14200
08:03:45,290 --> 08:03:47,150
processes and identify where we

14201
08:03:47,150 --> 08:03:49,110
may be creating unnecessary

14202
08:03:49,110 --> 08:03:50,240
barriers or delays for

14203
08:03:50,240 --> 08:03:52,424
projects. Right now applicants

14204
08:03:53,100 --> 08:03:54,170
>> have only one opportunity

14205
08:03:54,170 --> 08:03:56,600
each year to advance a general

14206
08:03:56,600 --> 08:03:57,270
plan amendment. If they miss

14207
08:03:57,270 --> 08:03:59,500
that window >> it can mean

14208
08:03:59,500 --> 08:04:01,200
waiting another year while

14209
08:04:01,200 --> 08:04:02,120
continuing to carry land

14210
08:04:02,120 --> 08:04:03,270
financing and pre-development

14211
08:04:03,270 --> 08:04:06,240
>> costs for some projects that

14212
08:04:06,240 --> 08:04:08,120
additional >> time and expense

14213
08:04:08,120 --> 08:04:09,150
can make the difference between

14214
08:04:09,150 --> 08:04:11,100
whether a viable project moves

14215
08:04:11,100 --> 08:04:14,400
forward or whether it doesn't.

14216
08:04:14,400 --> 08:04:15,170
our recommendation which >> was

14217
08:04:15,170 --> 08:04:17,170
accepted into

14218
08:04:18,170 --> 08:04:20,000
councilmember collins motion

14219
08:04:20,000 --> 08:04:21,600
creates an >> additional

14220
08:04:21,600 --> 08:04:22,260
general plan amendment cycle

14221
08:04:22,260 --> 08:04:24,900
for residential, commercial and

14222
08:04:24,900 --> 08:04:26,900
public quasi public sites

14223
08:04:26,900 --> 08:04:27,230
giving us another opportunity

14224
08:04:27,230 --> 08:04:29,000
to move projects forward

14225
08:04:29,000 --> 08:04:30,120
without changing any of the

14226
08:04:30,120 --> 08:04:32,120
underlying review or approval

14227
08:04:32,120 --> 08:04:35,100
requirements. I also want to

14228
08:04:35,100 --> 08:04:37,100
say even though it's not really

14229
08:04:37,100 --> 08:04:38,110
my district, I do support the

14230
08:04:38,110 --> 08:04:41,110
vmt and vmt based protections

14231
08:04:41,200 --> 08:04:44,200
in our memo >> given sb 70 >>

14232
08:04:46,300 --> 08:04:48,160
nine and sb nine. Majority

14233
08:04:48,160 --> 08:04:50,240
of my district >> is already on

14234
08:04:50,240 --> 08:04:52,800
the road to being >> extremely

14235
08:04:52,800 --> 08:04:53,290
dense so this vote doesn't

14236
08:04:53,290 --> 08:04:55,210
really impact my area that

14237
08:04:55,210 --> 08:04:58,700
much. But I think sometimes we

14238
08:04:58,700 --> 08:05:00,260
get individuals who get really

14239
08:05:00,260 --> 08:05:02,426
>> bogged into dogmatic policy.

14240
08:05:03,120 --> 08:05:05,110
I call them policy wonks and

14241
08:05:05,110 --> 08:05:07,400
things are good on paper.

14242
08:05:07,400 --> 08:05:08,900
however, when we actually move

14243
08:05:08,900 --> 08:05:10,100
forward with development they

14244
08:05:10,100 --> 08:05:11,240
>> don't actually make sense. I

14245
08:05:11,240 --> 08:05:13,300
think the faa in downtown

14246
08:05:13,300 --> 08:05:14,190
san jose was a good example.

14247
08:05:14,190 --> 08:05:16,200
people do not want housing

14248
08:05:16,200 --> 08:05:18,220
without parking and especially

14249
08:05:18,220 --> 08:05:20,422
>> in areas >> like east

14250
08:05:22,500 --> 08:05:23,170
san jose where they're spread

14251
08:05:23,170 --> 08:05:26,800
out and we don't have the best

14252
08:05:26,800 --> 08:05:27,200
transportation system already

14253
08:05:27,200 --> 08:05:29,000
developed. It makes things

14254
08:05:29,000 --> 08:05:30,170
difficult especially for

14255
08:05:30,170 --> 08:05:31,190
working >> class people who

14256
08:05:31,190 --> 08:05:34,619
rely on their cars. And so

14257
08:05:35,200 --> 08:05:37,700
while >> you know, the the

14258
08:05:37,700 --> 08:05:39,407
addition of potential parking

14259
08:05:40,120 --> 08:05:42,150
in the overall motion was

14260
08:05:42,150 --> 08:05:45,000
included, it won't necessarily

14261
08:05:45,000 --> 08:05:47,220
impact my district given >> you

14262
08:05:47,220 --> 08:05:48,110
know, the level

14263
08:05:48,110 --> 08:05:49,210
of transportation that exists

14264
08:05:49,210 --> 08:05:51,300
>> there. I think it's good

14265
08:05:51,300 --> 08:05:53,150
because as we look at our city

14266
08:05:53,150 --> 08:05:55,415
sprawling out and expanding,

14267
08:05:56,000 --> 08:05:57,110
these developments are going to

14268
08:05:57,110 --> 08:05:59,270
need parking because people >>

14269
08:05:59,270 --> 08:06:01,160
want in city of san jose people

14270
08:06:01,160 --> 08:06:04,160
will not go into apartments >>

14271
08:06:04,180 --> 08:06:06,100
or condos that don't provide

14272
08:06:06,100 --> 08:06:07,290
spaces for their cars. This

14273
08:06:07,290 --> 08:06:09,600
isn't new york and it's not

14274
08:06:09,600 --> 08:06:10,270
chicago. And so we need to make

14275
08:06:10,270 --> 08:06:12,300
sure that as we make our land

14276
08:06:12,300 --> 08:06:14,180
use decisions we reflect that.

14277
08:06:14,180 --> 08:06:15,200
I >> understand that we do need

14278
08:06:15,200 --> 08:06:16,270
to create additional housing

14279
08:06:16,270 --> 08:06:19,200
capacity citywide but I do

14280
08:06:19,200 --> 08:06:20,900
struggle with the idea that on

14281
08:06:20,900 --> 08:06:21,160
one hand we recognize that

14282
08:06:21,160 --> 08:06:22,230
higher densities make the most

14283
08:06:22,230 --> 08:06:24,230
sense in areas with strong

14284
08:06:24,230 --> 08:06:26,120
transit infrastructure and good

14285
08:06:26,120 --> 08:06:28,300
access to jobs and services

14286
08:06:28,300 --> 08:06:29,300
while on the other hand we

14287
08:06:29,300 --> 08:06:30,180
could apply essentially the

14288
08:06:30,180 --> 08:06:31,270
same density increases to

14289
08:06:31,270 --> 08:06:33,600
neighborhoods where residents

14290
08:06:33,600 --> 08:06:34,120
have fewer transportation

14291
08:06:34,120 --> 08:06:35,230
options, experience more

14292
08:06:35,230 --> 08:06:37,150
traffic and may already have to

14293
08:06:37,150 --> 08:06:39,170
drive further to >> meet their

14294
08:06:39,170 --> 08:06:41,100
everyday needs. We can

14295
08:06:41,100 --> 08:06:42,230
reconcile these two goals and

14296
08:06:42,230 --> 08:06:43,220
make sure we're thinking about

14297
08:06:43,220 --> 08:06:45,400
the infrastructure needed to

14298
08:06:45,400 --> 08:06:46,900
support density where we're

14299
08:06:46,900 --> 08:06:48,110
actually creating it. I'm >>

14300
08:06:48,110 --> 08:06:49,140
also generally supportive

14301
08:06:49,140 --> 08:06:50,190
of providing more flexibility

14302
08:06:50,190 --> 08:06:51,240
in our public quasi public

14303
08:06:51,240 --> 08:06:53,120
lands. There's a balance to

14304
08:06:53,120 --> 08:06:54,260
strike between preserving these

14305
08:06:54,260 --> 08:06:56,190
important community spaces and

14306
08:06:56,190 --> 08:06:57,240
giving schools faith

14307
08:06:57,240 --> 08:06:59,180
institutions and other property

14308
08:06:59,180 --> 08:07:01,280
owners more opportunities for

14309
08:07:01,280 --> 08:07:03,428
housing, child care, recreation

14310
08:07:04,100 --> 08:07:06,500
and community serving uses. And

14311
08:07:06,500 --> 08:07:07,190
with >> that, I do have a

14312
08:07:07,190 --> 08:07:09,419
couple questions for staff.

14313
08:07:10,700 --> 08:07:11,000
first, I'd like to better

14314
08:07:11,000 --> 08:07:12,180
understand how long we have >>

14315
08:07:12,180 --> 08:07:14,130
to decide on density and

14316
08:07:14,130 --> 08:07:15,200
whether we'll have more

14317
08:07:15,200 --> 08:07:17,240
definitive guidance on exactly

14318
08:07:17,240 --> 08:07:19,200
how high our dwelling units per

14319
08:07:19,200 --> 08:07:21,230
acre needs to be. How soon do

14320
08:07:21,230 --> 08:07:22,230
we need to make a final

14321
08:07:22,230 --> 08:07:24,100
decision on residential

14322
08:07:24,100 --> 08:07:25,200
neighborhood density to remain

14323
08:07:25,200 --> 08:07:27,100
compliant with the housing

14324
08:07:27,100 --> 08:07:29,100
element? >> thanks

14325
08:07:30,230 --> 08:07:32,120
councilmember. So this was

14326
08:07:32,120 --> 08:07:33,200
mentioned by

14327
08:07:33,200 --> 08:07:34,100
councilmember tordillos as

14328
08:07:34,100 --> 08:07:36,250
well. There are some both

14329
08:07:36,250 --> 08:07:38,210
timeline and metrics associated

14330
08:07:38,210 --> 08:07:40,600
with the program. So there are

14331
08:07:40,600 --> 08:07:41,120
specific milestones we're

14332
08:07:41,120 --> 08:07:44,230
supposed to meet. And so we're

14333
08:07:44,230 --> 08:07:46,400
already a little bit behind

14334
08:07:46,400 --> 08:07:47,800
some of those milestones in

14335
08:07:47,800 --> 08:07:48,600
terms of when we would have

14336
08:07:48,600 --> 08:07:50,180
these land use decisions done.

14337
08:07:50,180 --> 08:07:51,180
so I think as long as we're

14338
08:07:51,180 --> 08:07:53,000
continuing to show progress and

14339
08:07:53,000 --> 08:07:54,110
show work that we're going

14340
08:07:54,110 --> 08:07:56,200
forward with these things, you

14341
08:07:56,200 --> 08:07:57,150
know, we can we can stay

14342
08:07:57,150 --> 08:07:59,280
compliant. But if we continue

14343
08:07:59,280 --> 08:08:01,120
to delay, that's when we would

14344
08:08:01,120 --> 08:08:03,220
get into a situation where they

14345
08:08:03,220 --> 08:08:05,100
may look unfavorably on us. So

14346
08:08:05,100 --> 08:08:07,200
there's not a hard deadline but

14347
08:08:07,200 --> 08:08:08,140
there are deadlines that we've

14348
08:08:08,140 --> 08:08:10,270
committed to that we've not

14349
08:08:10,270 --> 08:08:12,220
foley kept up with so far. So

14350
08:08:12,220 --> 08:08:15,220
not hard deadlines. So >> when

14351
08:08:15,230 --> 08:08:17,700
you give me an example >> sorry

14352
08:08:17,700 --> 08:08:18,230
there are specific deadlines in

14353
08:08:18,230 --> 08:08:19,280
terms of months of when we

14354
08:08:19,280 --> 08:08:21,800
would make decisions in the

14355
08:08:21,800 --> 08:08:23,260
housing element under p 35 it

14356
08:08:23,260 --> 08:08:25,240
has a specific point and date I

14357
08:08:25,240 --> 08:08:27,424
believe 26th december of 2026

14358
08:08:30,200 --> 08:08:32,190
was when the first milestone is

14359
08:08:32,190 --> 08:08:33,270
technically >> we do have some

14360
08:08:33,270 --> 08:08:36,627
months. Yeah and then there's

14361
08:08:38,180 --> 08:08:40,200
october of 2026 was when we

14362
08:08:40,200 --> 08:08:41,100
were supposed to we're supposed

14363
08:08:41,100 --> 08:08:42,800
to have design standards

14364
08:08:42,800 --> 08:08:44,170
approved and under our current

14365
08:08:44,170 --> 08:08:45,230
timeline we're suggesting

14366
08:08:45,230 --> 08:08:47,240
december of 27 when we'd have

14367
08:08:47,240 --> 08:08:48,290
those approved. So we're

14368
08:08:48,290 --> 08:08:50,210
already a little bit behind and

14369
08:08:50,210 --> 08:08:51,160
so that's why you know,

14370
08:08:51,160 --> 08:08:52,250
continued to make progress is

14371
08:08:52,250 --> 08:08:53,240
important and have some

14372
08:08:53,240 --> 08:08:55,200
decisions made in terms of what

14373
08:08:55,200 --> 08:08:57,000
direction we're but in reality

14374
08:08:57,000 --> 08:08:58,600
we wouldn't be the only city

14375
08:08:58,600 --> 08:08:59,000
behind. There's plenty

14376
08:08:59,000 --> 08:09:00,700
of cities that aren't

14377
08:09:00,700 --> 08:09:01,210
necessarily in good standing

14378
08:09:01,210 --> 08:09:05,600
with hpd. So it's important as

14379
08:09:05,600 --> 08:09:06,220
chris was was mentioning is

14380
08:09:06,220 --> 08:09:07,240
that we continue to show

14381
08:09:07,240 --> 08:09:09,400
progress on those programs.

14382
08:09:09,400 --> 08:09:10,130
those are the types of things

14383
08:09:10,130 --> 08:09:11,210
that they are enforcing on in

14384
08:09:11,210 --> 08:09:13,120
terms of what commitments we

14385
08:09:13,120 --> 08:09:14,230
made in terms of decisions and

14386
08:09:14,230 --> 08:09:17,300
policy programs. You know, I

14387
08:09:17,300 --> 08:09:18,290
think where where there are

14388
08:09:18,290 --> 08:09:20,100
things outside of our control

14389
08:09:20,100 --> 08:09:21,100
with the actual housing

14390
08:09:21,100 --> 08:09:22,230
production under the arena

14391
08:09:22,230 --> 08:09:24,200
that's not necessarily where

14392
08:09:24,200 --> 08:09:25,210
they're choosing to enforce

14393
08:09:25,210 --> 08:09:26,220
because they understand that,

14394
08:09:26,220 --> 08:09:28,400
you know, those are things

14395
08:09:28,400 --> 08:09:29,500
outside of our control but

14396
08:09:29,500 --> 08:09:31,600
where we can implement programs

14397
08:09:31,600 --> 08:09:32,170
and are not making progress,

14398
08:09:32,170 --> 08:09:34,230
that's where we could really,

14399
08:09:34,230 --> 08:09:36,100
you know, run into an issue and

14400
08:09:36,100 --> 08:09:37,700
where they're really monitoring

14401
08:09:37,700 --> 08:09:40,400
us closely. Okay. >> so again,

14402
08:09:40,400 --> 08:09:41,200
I'd like to understand what our

14403
08:09:41,200 --> 08:09:42,600
neighboring cities are doing. I

14404
08:09:42,600 --> 08:09:43,280
understand berkeley is doing I

14405
08:09:43,280 --> 08:09:46,400
think it was 70 but what is

14406
08:09:46,400 --> 08:09:47,800
sunnyvale doing? What is

14407
08:09:47,800 --> 08:09:48,150
cupertino doing? What are

14408
08:09:48,150 --> 08:09:50,400
cities doing in santa clara

14409
08:09:50,400 --> 08:09:51,180
county? I mean the city of san

14410
08:09:51,180 --> 08:09:53,600
jose is not going to solve the

14411
08:09:53,600 --> 08:09:55,800
housing crisis for the county

14412
08:09:55,800 --> 08:09:57,180
or for northern california. So

14413
08:09:57,180 --> 08:09:58,220
and we shouldn't be expected to

14414
08:09:58,220 --> 08:10:00,180
do so. And so what are other

14415
08:10:00,180 --> 08:10:02,400
cities doing? Are other cities

14416
08:10:02,400 --> 08:10:03,170
are already taking these votes

14417
08:10:03,170 --> 08:10:06,100
on how dense or are we rushing?

14418
08:10:06,100 --> 08:10:06,270
we don't need to be the first

14419
08:10:06,270 --> 08:10:09,270
city to vote on this >>

14420
08:10:19,800 --> 08:10:23,290
. So >> I can't I don't I can't

14421
08:10:23,290 --> 08:10:25,500
speak to specific smaller

14422
08:10:25,500 --> 08:10:26,260
cities in santa clara county in

14423
08:10:26,260 --> 08:10:28,220
terms of this type of missing

14424
08:10:28,220 --> 08:10:30,150
middle programs. We'd have to

14425
08:10:30,150 --> 08:10:31,250
look at their housing elements

14426
08:10:31,250 --> 08:10:33,170
more closely. I know in terms

14427
08:10:33,170 --> 08:10:35,000
of the larger cities in the bay

14428
08:10:35,000 --> 08:10:36,210
area and elsewhere in the

14429
08:10:36,210 --> 08:10:38,230
state. These are programs that

14430
08:10:38,230 --> 08:10:40,800
are typical in their housing

14431
08:10:40,800 --> 08:10:42,230
elements. We were just talking

14432
08:10:42,230 --> 08:10:45,100
to oakland, the city of oakland

14433
08:10:45,100 --> 08:10:46,130
the other day and they also

14434
08:10:46,130 --> 08:10:47,220
have a similar program and are

14435
08:10:47,220 --> 08:10:48,270
currently working on general

14436
08:10:48,270 --> 08:10:50,170
plan updates and looking

14437
08:10:50,170 --> 08:10:51,210
at increased density in their

14438
08:10:51,210 --> 08:10:53,290
single-family so they're so

14439
08:10:53,290 --> 08:10:55,000
they're looking >> at it.

14440
08:10:55,000 --> 08:10:56,800
they're not voting on it yet.

14441
08:10:56,800 --> 08:10:57,200
how far away I mean that's what

14442
08:10:57,200 --> 08:10:58,140
I'm trying to understand are we

14443
08:10:58,140 --> 08:11:00,100
like the first city in

14444
08:11:00,100 --> 08:11:01,500
santa clara county doing this

14445
08:11:01,500 --> 08:11:02,700
or why can't we have a

14446
08:11:02,700 --> 08:11:03,260
conversation and stop and

14447
08:11:03,260 --> 08:11:05,700
realize, you know, actually

14448
08:11:05,700 --> 08:11:07,600
where we're at? So they'll be

14449
08:11:07,600 --> 08:11:08,160
bringing forward those changes

14450
08:11:08,160 --> 08:11:09,220
in the coming months to their

14451
08:11:09,220 --> 08:11:11,190
city council in months. Okay.

14452
08:11:11,190 --> 08:11:13,110
so then we are we are moving

14453
08:11:13,110 --> 08:11:16,500
at a faster rate. So how are we

14454
08:11:16,500 --> 08:11:17,900
more susceptible to being

14455
08:11:17,900 --> 08:11:18,200
referred other than we

14456
08:11:18,200 --> 08:11:19,190
got council members calling

14457
08:11:19,190 --> 08:11:22,900
oecd on us? Other than that,

14458
08:11:22,900 --> 08:11:23,290
how are we more susceptible >>

14459
08:11:23,290 --> 08:11:25,210
to hd and us being in

14460
08:11:25,210 --> 08:11:27,250
non-compliant? So in comparison

14461
08:11:27,250 --> 08:11:29,200
to these other municipalities

14462
08:11:29,200 --> 08:11:30,180
obviously you know wouldn't

14463
08:11:30,180 --> 08:11:32,110
want to speak too much for

14464
08:11:32,110 --> 08:11:33,170
oecd. But what I will say

14465
08:11:33,170 --> 08:11:34,180
council members is when you

14466
08:11:34,180 --> 08:11:36,900
take the statewide housing

14467
08:11:36,900 --> 08:11:37,120
element program, the vast

14468
08:11:37,120 --> 08:11:39,700
majority of units added through

14469
08:11:39,700 --> 08:11:40,210
all of the housing elements

14470
08:11:40,210 --> 08:11:42,400
reside in the largest cities in

14471
08:11:42,400 --> 08:11:43,210
the state. Right. And as such

14472
08:11:43,210 --> 08:11:45,230
we've seen, you know,

14473
08:11:45,230 --> 08:11:47,500
noncompliance letters or

14474
08:11:47,500 --> 08:11:49,120
actions taken against, you

14475
08:11:49,120 --> 08:11:50,230
know, san diego with their adu

14476
08:11:50,230 --> 08:11:51,290
law. You know, there's been

14477
08:11:51,290 --> 08:11:53,100
interventions around l.a on

14478
08:11:53,100 --> 08:11:54,400
some of their permitting

14479
08:11:54,400 --> 08:11:54,230
questions and their

14480
08:11:54,230 --> 08:11:56,290
applications. San francisco had

14481
08:11:56,290 --> 08:11:58,140
an unprecedented intervention

14482
08:11:58,140 --> 08:11:59,220
based on some of their

14483
08:11:59,220 --> 08:12:02,200
processes. So we do draw more

14484
08:12:02,200 --> 08:12:03,230
attention by nature that we are

14485
08:12:03,230 --> 08:12:04,290
the third largest city in the

14486
08:12:04,290 --> 08:12:06,280
state and we have you know a

14487
08:12:06,280 --> 08:12:08,000
considerable amount

14488
08:12:08,000 --> 08:12:09,200
of statewide capacity resides

14489
08:12:09,200 --> 08:12:12,400
in the big cities. >> what I

14490
08:12:12,400 --> 08:12:13,130
still would have liked to have

14491
08:12:13,130 --> 08:12:14,290
as we took this vote to get an

14492
08:12:14,290 --> 08:12:16,150
understanding of what our our

14493
08:12:16,150 --> 08:12:17,150
neighboring cities would have

14494
08:12:17,150 --> 08:12:18,150
done, I think that's important

14495
08:12:18,150 --> 08:12:21,700
for us as a council to do so

14496
08:12:21,700 --> 08:12:22,110
especially as we are thinking

14497
08:12:22,110 --> 08:12:24,250
about votes that may change the

14498
08:12:24,250 --> 08:12:27,110
essentially who our city is the

14499
08:12:27,110 --> 08:12:29,500
culture of our city. You know I

14500
08:12:29,500 --> 08:12:31,170
am a renter. I have lived in

14501
08:12:31,170 --> 08:12:33,900
apartments. You know, I know

14502
08:12:33,900 --> 08:12:34,900
what that's like. You know,

14503
08:12:34,900 --> 08:12:35,190
I've I grew up in a single

14504
08:12:35,190 --> 08:12:37,600
family home but in my district

14505
08:12:37,600 --> 08:12:38,000
people already living like

14506
08:12:38,000 --> 08:12:38,270
this. I want to be brutally

14507
08:12:38,270 --> 08:12:40,260
honest with everybody. I grew

14508
08:12:40,260 --> 08:12:41,290
up in a single family home.

14509
08:12:41,290 --> 08:12:43,120
there was three families that

14510
08:12:43,120 --> 08:12:44,190
lived there. And here's

14511
08:12:44,190 --> 08:12:45,270
san jose. We have no parking

14512
08:12:45,270 --> 08:12:47,500
because that's that's the

14513
08:12:47,500 --> 08:12:48,500
reality. So at the end of the

14514
08:12:48,500 --> 08:12:49,200
day the vote today doesn't

14515
08:12:49,200 --> 08:12:51,120
impact my district. I just want

14516
08:12:51,120 --> 08:12:52,210
to make sure that if we're

14517
08:12:52,210 --> 08:12:53,270
taking an important >> vote

14518
08:12:53,270 --> 08:12:55,140
like this, we're doing so with

14519
08:12:55,140 --> 08:12:57,100
all >> the information we need

14520
08:12:57,100 --> 08:12:59,700
and crossing our t's and dot in

14521
08:12:59,700 --> 08:13:01,200
our eyes and I just I feel like

14522
08:13:01,200 --> 08:13:02,200
we are rushing and I feel like

14523
08:13:02,200 --> 08:13:05,100
there's a there is a heightened

14524
08:13:05,100 --> 08:13:08,100
>> level of haziness that's

14525
08:13:09,300 --> 08:13:10,400
that's been pushed on this

14526
08:13:10,400 --> 08:13:12,100
council and I don't I don't

14527
08:13:12,100 --> 08:13:13,210
appreciate that I don't I don't

14528
08:13:13,210 --> 08:13:15,140
feel I feel like you know part

14529
08:13:15,140 --> 08:13:16,180
of this council is forcing the

14530
08:13:16,180 --> 08:13:17,170
other part of the council to

14531
08:13:17,170 --> 08:13:20,170
make this well thank you >>

14532
08:13:24,210 --> 08:13:28,120
okay let's let's keep going and

14533
08:13:28,120 --> 08:13:29,240
we will turn now to council

14534
08:13:29,240 --> 08:13:32,240
member committee. Thank you so

14535
08:13:35,160 --> 08:13:38,500
much. I want to thank all

14536
08:13:38,500 --> 08:13:40,220
of the people who came out to

14537
08:13:40,220 --> 08:13:41,290
give us your thoughts. We've

14538
08:13:41,290 --> 08:13:44,400
had a lot of emails, a lot

14539
08:13:44,400 --> 08:13:45,190
of information, a lot

14540
08:13:45,190 --> 08:13:47,160
of letters. There's been quite

14541
08:13:47,160 --> 08:13:49,200
a bit of engagement. So thank

14542
08:13:49,200 --> 08:13:52,200
you so much. I want to thank >>

14543
08:13:52,200 --> 08:13:55,200
the >> the department for all

14544
08:13:55,210 --> 08:13:57,150
of the work that you've done. I

14545
08:13:57,150 --> 08:13:59,100
especially want to thank jared

14546
08:13:59,100 --> 08:14:01,120
ferguson who you know we've

14547
08:14:01,120 --> 08:14:02,170
been sort of having him on

14548
08:14:02,170 --> 08:14:05,170
speed dial and director burton

14549
08:14:05,270 --> 08:14:07,100
as well, you know, in terms

14550
08:14:07,100 --> 08:14:08,170
of answering questions and

14551
08:14:08,170 --> 08:14:11,800
doing a lot of work on this. So

14552
08:14:11,800 --> 08:14:12,100
thank you very much. I want to

14553
08:14:12,100 --> 08:14:14,210
thank my colleagues. I think

14554
08:14:14,210 --> 08:14:16,800
you we all worked really hard

14555
08:14:16,800 --> 08:14:18,220
on our memos and tried to move

14556
08:14:18,220 --> 08:14:20,422
something that was manageable

14557
08:14:21,130 --> 08:14:23,160
and to move forward in our >>

14558
08:14:23,160 --> 08:14:26,500
process here now I want to talk

14559
08:14:26,500 --> 08:14:28,120
about a little bit on the you

14560
08:14:28,120 --> 08:14:29,200
know, what are we doing here

14561
08:14:29,200 --> 08:14:31,700
today >> and what it is and

14562
08:14:31,700 --> 08:14:32,230
what it isn't because I've

14563
08:14:32,230 --> 08:14:35,130
heard a lot of >> different

14564
08:14:35,130 --> 08:14:37,160
understandings of of what we

14565
08:14:37,160 --> 08:14:40,170
are today doing. We aren't

14566
08:14:40,170 --> 08:14:43,110
rezoning anything. We aren't

14567
08:14:43,110 --> 08:14:45,700
adopting any changes in the

14568
08:14:45,700 --> 08:14:46,200
general plan or making an

14569
08:14:46,200 --> 08:14:48,210
amendment. Nobody will be able

14570
08:14:48,210 --> 08:14:50,500
to leave here today or tomorrow

14571
08:14:50,500 --> 08:14:52,600
and apply for to build anything

14572
08:14:52,600 --> 08:14:53,120
under any of the land use

14573
08:14:53,120 --> 08:14:56,200
policies that we are discussing

14574
08:14:56,200 --> 08:14:58,300
so this is to >> give

14575
08:14:58,300 --> 08:15:00,300
direction. We're discussing the

14576
08:15:00,300 --> 08:15:02,210
parameters of future policy. So

14577
08:15:02,210 --> 08:15:04,130
this is part of a very long

14578
08:15:04,130 --> 08:15:07,230
process and there was a slide

14579
08:15:07,230 --> 08:15:09,290
today that shows where we are

14580
08:15:09,290 --> 08:15:13,229
in that process. You know it's

14581
08:15:14,800 --> 08:15:15,170
going to be for the adoption

14582
08:15:15,170 --> 08:15:16,260
and defining the outer

14583
08:15:16,260 --> 08:15:18,230
boundaries of environmental

14584
08:15:18,230 --> 08:15:21,800
study so that whatever >> the

14585
08:15:21,800 --> 08:15:23,800
whatever action the >> council

14586
08:15:23,800 --> 08:15:26,400
ultimately takes we have a

14587
08:15:26,400 --> 08:15:28,200
sufficient study of what those

14588
08:15:28,200 --> 08:15:30,270
impacts are. The environmental

14589
08:15:30,270 --> 08:15:32,150
impact is like tailoring a

14590
08:15:32,150 --> 08:15:33,150
garment. You could always

14591
08:15:33,150 --> 08:15:35,180
reduce it and remove fabric but

14592
08:15:35,180 --> 08:15:38,250
you can't add to it. Similarly

14593
08:15:38,250 --> 08:15:41,800
we can't enact regulations

14594
08:15:41,800 --> 08:15:42,250
which are whose impacts we

14595
08:15:42,250 --> 08:15:45,200
haven't studied >> so this will

14596
08:15:45,200 --> 08:15:47,400
give sort >> of the the

14597
08:15:47,400 --> 08:15:50,000
landscape of what the body

14598
08:15:50,000 --> 08:15:51,210
of study >> is going to be so

14599
08:15:51,210 --> 08:15:53,100
that when we do get the

14600
08:15:53,100 --> 08:15:55,300
information we will make an

14601
08:15:55,300 --> 08:15:57,150
informed decision on what those

14602
08:15:57,150 --> 08:15:59,250
impacts >> are. There will be

14603
08:15:59,250 --> 08:16:01,110
additional points in time for

14604
08:16:01,110 --> 08:16:02,180
the council and the public to

14605
08:16:02,180 --> 08:16:04,120
further define each of these

14606
08:16:04,120 --> 08:16:07,160
policies as we move forward to

14607
08:16:07,160 --> 08:16:09,250
eventually do a general plan

14608
08:16:09,250 --> 08:16:11,220
amendment at the end of 2020

14609
08:16:11,220 --> 08:16:14,622
for 27 excuse me and for the

14610
08:16:15,100 --> 08:16:17,400
adoption and implementation

14611
08:16:17,400 --> 08:16:19,400
of ordinances and policy. So

14612
08:16:19,400 --> 08:16:22,240
today is a very important day.

14613
08:16:22,240 --> 08:16:25,250
it's a very key check in

14614
08:16:25,250 --> 08:16:27,400
between the beginning of this

14615
08:16:27,400 --> 08:16:28,260
discussion and what >> will

14616
08:16:28,260 --> 08:16:31,210
happen locally in in in the

14617
08:16:31,210 --> 08:16:34,120
future. >> so you know, I

14618
08:16:34,120 --> 08:16:35,170
wanted to say a little bit

14619
08:16:35,170 --> 08:16:38,617
about the density bonus law and

14620
08:16:40,130 --> 08:16:42,600
I'm going to kind of simplify

14621
08:16:42,600 --> 08:16:45,220
>> the you know what we were

14622
08:16:45,220 --> 08:16:48,100
considering in point one on our

14623
08:16:48,100 --> 08:16:50,700
memo with council member toward

14624
08:16:50,700 --> 08:16:53,200
dios. What it really is is that

14625
08:16:53,200 --> 08:16:55,200
>> at this point in time an

14626
08:16:55,200 --> 08:16:57,160
applicant could get in some

14627
08:16:57,160 --> 08:16:59,140
of the larger lots up to five

14628
08:16:59,140 --> 08:17:02,300
units. Right. And if they have

14629
08:17:02,300 --> 08:17:03,240
these five units on an existing

14630
08:17:03,240 --> 08:17:05,260
parcel they could did restrict

14631
08:17:05,260 --> 08:17:08,170
one and use the state's density

14632
08:17:08,170 --> 08:17:10,190
bonus >> law to toss out all

14633
08:17:10,190 --> 08:17:11,270
of the height all of the

14634
08:17:11,270 --> 08:17:14,200
setback and other standards are

14635
08:17:14,200 --> 08:17:16,230
item number one really proposes

14636
08:17:16,230 --> 08:17:18,160
a pathway >> that should be

14637
08:17:18,160 --> 08:17:20,100
preferable to state law so that

14638
08:17:20,100 --> 08:17:22,260
we would have local control

14639
08:17:22,260 --> 08:17:24,200
right? So we want to make it

14640
08:17:24,200 --> 08:17:26,100
more desirable. So the idea is

14641
08:17:26,100 --> 08:17:29,100
really to explore >> our own

14642
08:17:30,500 --> 08:17:32,120
density bonus law instead

14643
08:17:32,120 --> 08:17:34,500
of having them trigger once you

14644
08:17:34,500 --> 08:17:37,700
get the five you know I mean we

14645
08:17:37,700 --> 08:17:38,260
had an example today of more

14646
08:17:38,260 --> 08:17:41,270
than five so you know, I think

14647
08:17:41,270 --> 08:17:43,100
that that is certainly worth

14648
08:17:43,100 --> 08:17:45,000
considering and I'm glad that

14649
08:17:45,000 --> 08:17:47,000
it was made a part of the >>

14650
08:17:47,000 --> 08:17:48,160
friendly amendment. I just

14651
08:17:48,160 --> 08:17:49,260
wanted to clarify >> to make

14652
08:17:49,260 --> 08:17:51,426
sure that councilmember cohen

14653
08:17:52,190 --> 08:17:55,110
you had added item number two

14654
08:17:55,110 --> 08:17:56,240
to develop written health and

14655
08:17:56,240 --> 08:17:58,424
safety standards on projects.

14656
08:17:59,600 --> 08:18:01,150
so >> that was that was

14657
08:18:01,150 --> 08:18:02,190
included. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

14658
08:18:02,190 --> 08:18:04,190
okay. Okay. I just wanted to

14659
08:18:04,190 --> 08:18:06,419
confirm that >> and explore.

14660
08:18:08,160 --> 08:18:10,200
yes, yes >> that's fine. That's

14661
08:18:10,200 --> 08:18:13,190
fine. And you know I do

14662
08:18:13,190 --> 08:18:16,900
appreciate that many of the

14663
08:18:16,900 --> 08:18:18,900
residents mentioned the

14664
08:18:19,900 --> 08:18:20,220
fundamental changes to the

14665
08:18:20,220 --> 08:18:22,260
quality of life of our american

14666
08:18:22,260 --> 08:18:25,260
dream >> and I understand that

14667
08:18:26,800 --> 08:18:28,290
you know, I too worked very,

14668
08:18:28,290 --> 08:18:31,290
very hard, struggled very, very

14669
08:18:32,200 --> 08:18:33,270
much to be able to afford a

14670
08:18:33,270 --> 08:18:36,400
single family home. I know how

14671
08:18:36,400 --> 08:18:37,280
it changes. It does change the

14672
08:18:37,280 --> 08:18:40,280
character >> but the the what

14673
08:18:41,260 --> 08:18:43,160
we're trying to do today is

14674
08:18:43,160 --> 08:18:46,100
really to study what is going

14675
08:18:46,100 --> 08:18:49,180
to happen >> in those areas. So

14676
08:18:49,180 --> 08:18:52,618
I look forward to the resulting

14677
08:18:53,400 --> 08:18:54,210
information that will come to

14678
08:18:54,210 --> 08:18:57,621
us and look forward to being

14679
08:18:59,800 --> 08:19:00,800
able to continue the

14680
08:19:00,800 --> 08:19:02,800
conversation. Thanks

14681
08:19:04,200 --> 08:19:05,150
councilmember. Maybe just to

14682
08:19:05,150 --> 08:19:07,170
quickly combine the points from

14683
08:19:07,170 --> 08:19:08,280
councilmembers ortiz and

14684
08:19:08,280 --> 08:19:11,300
committee back to back there in

14685
08:19:11,300 --> 08:19:12,270
order to not rush to

14686
08:19:12,270 --> 08:19:14,240
prematurely close the door and

14687
08:19:14,240 --> 08:19:16,230
limit our optionality as

14688
08:19:16,230 --> 08:19:18,423
councilmember ortiz conveyed I

14689
08:19:19,100 --> 08:19:20,190
think councilor akamai's point

14690
08:19:20,190 --> 08:19:21,240
that we're setting a direction

14691
08:19:21,240 --> 08:19:23,120
for staff study is important. I

14692
08:19:23,120 --> 08:19:24,140
think councilor candles and

14693
08:19:24,140 --> 08:19:25,500
others have all pointed to

14694
08:19:25,500 --> 08:19:27,130
this. I think the question

14695
08:19:27,130 --> 08:19:28,280
right now that we have to

14696
08:19:28,280 --> 08:19:30,210
settle on today is what's

14697
08:19:30,210 --> 08:19:32,600
within the scope of what staff

14698
08:19:32,600 --> 08:19:33,250
is going to go study. It's not

14699
08:19:33,250 --> 08:19:35,140
a final decision but leaving it

14700
08:19:35,140 --> 08:19:37,280
out tonight basically precludes

14701
08:19:37,280 --> 08:19:40,100
us. It's not guaranteed we

14702
08:19:40,100 --> 08:19:41,170
could all decide to pull the

14703
08:19:41,170 --> 08:19:42,250
handbrake and add something in

14704
08:19:42,250 --> 08:19:44,400
but it gets a lot harder to add

14705
08:19:44,400 --> 08:19:45,150
new concepts later and it's not

14706
08:19:45,150 --> 08:19:46,270
fair to staff and it puts us

14707
08:19:46,270 --> 08:19:48,160
off track. So tonight is a

14708
08:19:48,160 --> 08:19:49,150
night to be and that's why I

14709
08:19:49,150 --> 08:19:51,000
appreciate we've got three

14710
08:19:51,000 --> 08:19:52,800
different memos, a lot

14711
08:19:52,800 --> 08:19:53,200
of different recs. I think

14712
08:19:53,200 --> 08:19:55,400
councilor condon an admirable

14713
08:19:55,400 --> 08:19:56,180
job of trying to put as many

14714
08:19:56,180 --> 08:19:58,150
pieces in we're not done. I

14715
08:19:58,150 --> 08:20:00,270
still see a lot of hands but

14716
08:20:00,270 --> 08:20:02,600
lest anyone think that we are

14717
08:20:02,600 --> 08:20:04,170
rushing to a conclusion I would

14718
08:20:04,170 --> 08:20:06,900
say read the memos from all the

14719
08:20:06,900 --> 08:20:07,600
council members which are

14720
08:20:07,600 --> 08:20:08,190
adding a lot of scope to what

14721
08:20:08,190 --> 08:20:10,100
staff is studying for the very

14722
08:20:10,100 --> 08:20:11,500
point that we don't want to

14723
08:20:11,500 --> 08:20:13,270
settle or or zero in today on

14724
08:20:13,270 --> 08:20:15,200
one answer we're giving a lot

14725
08:20:15,200 --> 08:20:17,000
of optionality and a range

14726
08:20:17,000 --> 08:20:18,250
intentionally here and there

14727
08:20:18,250 --> 08:20:20,190
may be more added as we go on

14728
08:20:20,190 --> 08:20:21,130
though I know we have some

14729
08:20:21,130 --> 08:20:22,250
limits to chris's team's

14730
08:20:22,250 --> 08:20:24,130
capacity. All right. Let

14731
08:20:24,130 --> 08:20:25,210
me turn now to

14732
08:20:25,210 --> 08:20:27,210
councilmember campos. Thank

14733
08:20:29,270 --> 08:20:32,230
you, mayor. I want to begin by

14734
08:20:32,230 --> 08:20:34,140
appreciating the members of our

14735
08:20:34,140 --> 08:20:36,600
community who have participated

14736
08:20:36,600 --> 08:20:37,140
in the general plan review

14737
08:20:37,140 --> 08:20:40,150
process for the past year for

14738
08:20:40,150 --> 08:20:41,240
those who have shared their

14739
08:20:41,240 --> 08:20:44,100
diverse opinions here today, I

14740
08:20:44,100 --> 08:20:46,120
thank you. I am also grateful

14741
08:20:46,120 --> 08:20:47,270
to the planning commissioners

14742
08:20:47,270 --> 08:20:49,180
who have spent many hours

14743
08:20:49,180 --> 08:20:51,200
during the general plan task

14744
08:20:51,200 --> 08:20:52,200
force meetings listening

14745
08:20:52,200 --> 08:20:54,400
carefully to public input and

14746
08:20:54,400 --> 08:20:55,170
putting together thoughtful

14747
08:20:55,170 --> 08:20:57,170
recommendations for council and

14748
08:20:57,170 --> 08:20:58,900
of course I want to thank

14749
08:20:58,900 --> 08:20:59,280
planning staff for their

14750
08:20:59,280 --> 08:21:01,428
significant and difficult work

14751
08:21:02,700 --> 08:21:04,200
to help the city meet the

14752
08:21:04,200 --> 08:21:05,110
housing needs of our community

14753
08:21:05,110 --> 08:21:07,300
and comply with complex and

14754
08:21:07,300 --> 08:21:09,100
challenging state mandates.

14755
08:21:09,100 --> 08:21:10,140
finally, I want to thank

14756
08:21:10,140 --> 08:21:11,230
my colleagues in the general

14757
08:21:11,230 --> 08:21:13,160
plan brown act group that I've

14758
08:21:13,160 --> 08:21:14,190
been working with and in the

14759
08:21:14,190 --> 08:21:16,900
spirit of compromise we have

14760
08:21:16,900 --> 08:21:17,190
prepared prudent

14761
08:21:17,190 --> 08:21:19,100
recommendations which I'll

14762
08:21:19,100 --> 08:21:22,700
speak to briefly. None of us on

14763
08:21:22,700 --> 08:21:24,110
council are oblivious to the

14764
08:21:24,110 --> 08:21:25,120
public comments that we've

14765
08:21:25,120 --> 08:21:26,280
received in our inbox that

14766
08:21:26,280 --> 08:21:29,100
we've heard tonight. Nor are we

14767
08:21:29,100 --> 08:21:30,150
ignorant about the housing

14768
08:21:30,150 --> 08:21:32,600
crisis and its impacts on

14769
08:21:32,600 --> 08:21:33,220
hundreds of thousands of our

14770
08:21:33,220 --> 08:21:35,800
neighbors. But the hard truth

14771
08:21:35,800 --> 08:21:36,280
is that our obligation to

14772
08:21:36,280 --> 08:21:39,300
comply with state law is real.

14773
08:21:39,300 --> 08:21:40,280
and as we've heard there are

14774
08:21:40,280 --> 08:21:42,180
severe consequences if we do

14775
08:21:42,180 --> 08:21:44,130
not make that good faith effort

14776
08:21:44,130 --> 08:21:46,130
to meet state mandates. Each

14777
08:21:46,130 --> 08:21:47,220
side has provided clear

14778
08:21:47,220 --> 08:21:49,300
guidance to our staff about

14779
08:21:49,300 --> 08:21:50,150
their expectations around the

14780
08:21:50,150 --> 08:21:52,190
housing element and if we do

14781
08:21:52,190 --> 08:21:54,500
not implement housing element

14782
08:21:54,500 --> 08:21:56,270
program p 35 which allows small

14783
08:21:56,270 --> 08:21:58,270
multifamily housing citywide

14784
08:21:59,200 --> 08:22:00,270
and if our housing element is

14785
08:22:00,270 --> 08:22:02,427
decertified we risk loss

14786
08:22:03,500 --> 08:22:05,100
of local control in return

14787
08:22:05,100 --> 08:22:07,170
of the builders remedy and loss

14788
08:22:07,170 --> 08:22:09,300
of eligibility for hundreds

14789
08:22:09,300 --> 08:22:10,250
of millions of dollars in state

14790
08:22:10,250 --> 08:22:12,160
grants for transportation

14791
08:22:12,160 --> 08:22:14,160
infrastructure and affordable

14792
08:22:14,210 --> 08:22:16,140
housing. But that's not the

14793
08:22:16,140 --> 08:22:18,190
only reason that we on council

14794
08:22:18,190 --> 08:22:19,280
have to make these tough

14795
08:22:19,280 --> 08:22:21,700
decisions. And I want to share

14796
08:22:21,700 --> 08:22:23,160
a personal story of an

14797
08:22:23,160 --> 08:22:25,210
experience that I had yesterday

14798
08:22:25,210 --> 08:22:27,700
that left me reflecting on the

14799
08:22:27,700 --> 08:22:29,600
vote before us today because

14800
08:22:29,600 --> 08:22:30,900
yesterday at southside

14801
08:22:30,900 --> 08:22:32,260
community center we hosted a

14802
08:22:32,260 --> 08:22:34,250
wildfire wildfire preparedness

14803
08:22:34,250 --> 08:22:36,260
town hall and on my way in I

14804
08:22:36,260 --> 08:22:38,100
noticed a young man who was

14805
08:22:38,100 --> 08:22:40,150
arriving with a suitcase but

14806
08:22:40,150 --> 08:22:41,180
instead of walking inside the

14807
08:22:41,180 --> 08:22:43,200
building he stayed outside

14808
08:22:43,200 --> 08:22:45,220
sitting on a bench in our past.

14809
08:22:45,220 --> 08:22:47,130
and as I walked back to my car

14810
08:22:47,130 --> 08:22:48,290
I noticed he was still sitting

14811
08:22:48,290 --> 08:22:51,250
on that bench. I went home and

14812
08:22:51,250 --> 08:22:53,500
I continued thinking about this

14813
08:22:53,500 --> 08:22:55,150
person who was about my age who

14814
08:22:55,150 --> 08:22:57,170
had no safe home to spend their

14815
08:22:57,170 --> 08:22:59,260
night who most likely spent the

14816
08:22:59,260 --> 08:23:02,300
evening outside because that's

14817
08:23:02,300 --> 08:23:04,800
the reality that we are facing

14818
08:23:04,800 --> 08:23:06,190
where too many older adults are

14819
08:23:06,190 --> 08:23:08,110
families with children and

14820
08:23:08,110 --> 08:23:09,230
youth aging out of foster >>

14821
08:23:09,230 --> 08:23:11,200
care are at risk

14822
08:23:11,200 --> 08:23:14,500
of homelessness in our city or

14823
08:23:14,500 --> 08:23:15,150
they're already experiencing

14824
08:23:15,150 --> 08:23:18,110
this and as a city as a

14825
08:23:18,110 --> 08:23:20,800
council. But most importantly

14826
08:23:20,800 --> 08:23:22,110
as a community I hope that we

14827
08:23:22,110 --> 08:23:24,130
can reset our north star and

14828
08:23:24,130 --> 08:23:26,200
framing for this general plan

14829
08:23:26,200 --> 08:23:28,100
conversation because we have

14830
08:23:28,100 --> 08:23:29,260
not built enough housing for

14831
08:23:29,260 --> 08:23:32,210
decades costs have increased so

14832
08:23:32,210 --> 08:23:34,280
much that the cost that most

14833
08:23:34,280 --> 08:23:36,130
of the housing in san jose is

14834
08:23:36,130 --> 08:23:38,270
not affordable to hundreds

14835
08:23:38,270 --> 08:23:40,230
of thousands of people who

14836
08:23:40,230 --> 08:23:43,200
struggle every single day to

14837
08:23:43,200 --> 08:23:46,140
make rent or people like me who

14838
08:23:46,140 --> 08:23:47,270
feel like they will never be

14839
08:23:47,270 --> 08:23:49,190
able to buy a house in their

14840
08:23:49,190 --> 08:23:52,140
hometown. I'm 32 and I live

14841
08:23:52,140 --> 08:23:54,150
at home with my parents. This

14842
08:23:54,150 --> 08:23:56,800
is why I'm proud to have worked

14843
08:23:56,800 --> 08:23:58,900
with my colleagues to find ways

14844
08:23:58,900 --> 08:24:00,900
to provide more affordable and

14845
08:24:00,900 --> 08:24:02,400
accessible housing in

14846
08:24:02,400 --> 08:24:04,000
my district district to the

14847
08:24:04,000 --> 08:24:05,240
southside community center is

14848
08:24:05,240 --> 08:24:07,400
what I want to speak to as an

14849
08:24:07,400 --> 08:24:08,260
opportunity for us to explore

14850
08:24:08,260 --> 08:24:10,230
public private partnership that

14851
08:24:10,230 --> 08:24:12,150
would bring new housing

14852
08:24:12,150 --> 08:24:14,100
including affordable homes

14853
08:24:14,100 --> 08:24:15,290
along with a new community

14854
08:24:15,290 --> 08:24:17,429
center by proactively amending

14855
08:24:18,120 --> 08:24:19,220
the general plan, the city can

14856
08:24:19,220 --> 08:24:21,180
subsequently go through an

14857
08:24:21,180 --> 08:24:23,100
extensive public process to

14858
08:24:23,100 --> 08:24:24,240
identify a development partner,

14859
08:24:24,240 --> 08:24:26,120
design a new community center

14860
08:24:26,120 --> 08:24:27,260
and public amenities and

14861
08:24:27,260 --> 08:24:29,426
provide much needed community

14862
08:24:30,600 --> 08:24:32,000
facilities and housing. And as

14863
08:24:32,000 --> 08:24:33,110
the property owner the city

14864
08:24:33,110 --> 08:24:35,700
would retain all land use and

14865
08:24:35,700 --> 08:24:37,600
planning discretion on the

14866
08:24:37,600 --> 08:24:39,200
southside community center

14867
08:24:39,200 --> 08:24:42,400
piece that is included on the

14868
08:24:42,400 --> 08:24:44,500
motion on the floor council

14869
08:24:44,500 --> 08:24:45,260
members command tordillos

14870
08:24:45,260 --> 08:24:47,600
remind us in their memo that

14871
08:24:47,600 --> 08:24:48,240
this action today is not the

14872
08:24:48,240 --> 08:24:50,230
final approval of any changes.

14873
08:24:50,230 --> 08:24:52,110
it is the framework for

14874
08:24:52,110 --> 08:24:54,700
necessary environmental review

14875
08:24:54,700 --> 08:24:56,600
and there will be many more

14876
08:24:56,600 --> 08:24:57,160
opportunities as we've heard

14877
08:24:57,160 --> 08:24:58,220
for the community to provide

14878
08:24:58,220 --> 08:25:00,120
input on development standards

14879
08:25:00,120 --> 08:25:02,190
and implementation. So I look

14880
08:25:02,190 --> 08:25:03,210
forward to supporting the

14881
08:25:03,210 --> 08:25:05,170
motion and continuing the

14882
08:25:05,170 --> 08:25:07,110
conversation over the next

14883
08:25:07,110 --> 08:25:09,411
year. Thank you, council

14884
08:25:11,300 --> 08:25:12,240
members. Let me turn now to

14885
08:25:12,240 --> 08:25:15,624
vice mayor. Thank you. I was

14886
08:25:17,110 --> 08:25:18,290
debating whether to say

14887
08:25:18,290 --> 08:25:21,100
anything because it's been said

14888
08:25:21,100 --> 08:25:22,230
by many of my colleagues and

14889
08:25:22,230 --> 08:25:25,623
much more eloquently than I can

14890
08:25:26,000 --> 08:25:27,270
say it. But first I want to

14891
08:25:27,270 --> 08:25:29,140
thank the staff for their

14892
08:25:29,140 --> 08:25:31,300
presentation and and

14893
08:25:31,300 --> 08:25:34,300
particularly ruth and jared for

14894
08:25:34,180 --> 08:25:36,230
presenting at the joint town

14895
08:25:36,230 --> 08:25:38,220
hall we had with the two and

14896
08:25:38,220 --> 08:25:42,250
ten last was it last week but

14897
08:25:42,250 --> 08:25:45,900
but thank you for that. I did

14898
08:25:45,900 --> 08:25:48,170
sit in on the final planning

14899
08:25:48,170 --> 08:25:50,300
commission meeting where the

14900
08:25:50,300 --> 08:25:51,280
planning commission voted to

14901
08:25:51,280 --> 08:25:54,190
move this forward and I found

14902
08:25:54,190 --> 08:25:56,160
it a very interesting but

14903
08:25:56,160 --> 08:25:58,140
confusing and complicated

14904
08:25:58,140 --> 08:26:01,600
conversation. This is not an

14905
08:26:01,600 --> 08:26:03,150
easy topic and I come from a

14906
08:26:03,150 --> 08:26:06,615
real estate world so to to

14907
08:26:07,600 --> 08:26:08,180
go through all of the

14908
08:26:08,180 --> 08:26:10,500
recommendations to listen to

14909
08:26:10,500 --> 08:26:11,210
the planning commission and I

14910
08:26:11,210 --> 08:26:12,230
know there are some planning

14911
08:26:12,230 --> 08:26:14,140
commissioners in the room thank

14912
08:26:14,140 --> 08:26:16,110
you so much for your time on

14913
08:26:16,110 --> 08:26:17,190
the task force and then as a

14914
08:26:17,190 --> 08:26:19,210
planning commissioner as well.

14915
08:26:19,210 --> 08:26:22,210
I really appreciate that this

14916
08:26:23,400 --> 08:26:25,404
is really difficult. Thank >>

14917
08:26:26,100 --> 08:26:28,500
you to also for all the public

14918
08:26:28,500 --> 08:26:31,500
comments both emails that I

14919
08:26:31,120 --> 08:26:32,260
received over the last couple

14920
08:26:32,260 --> 08:26:35,626
of weeks and today and while >>

14921
08:26:36,150 --> 08:26:38,110
I didn't respond to everybody I

14922
08:26:38,110 --> 08:26:40,100
did listen and read all of them

14923
08:26:40,100 --> 08:26:41,240
because I wanted to see where

14924
08:26:41,240 --> 08:26:42,240
you were coming from and

14925
08:26:42,240 --> 08:26:44,270
frankly I live one 2 in 1

14926
08:26:44,270 --> 08:26:47,110
of those neighborhoods that is

14927
08:26:47,110 --> 08:26:49,300
going to be quote unquote up

14928
08:26:49,300 --> 08:26:51,120
zoned and that's of concern to

14929
08:26:51,120 --> 08:26:52,800
me because I'm going to have to

14930
08:26:52,800 --> 08:26:54,900
look at my neighbors after we

14931
08:26:54,900 --> 08:26:55,270
vote on after we approve

14932
08:26:55,270 --> 08:26:57,210
density and they're going to be

14933
08:26:57,210 --> 08:26:59,170
really disappointed at me on

14934
08:26:59,170 --> 08:27:02,800
how I make a vote, how I vote.

14935
08:27:02,800 --> 08:27:04,170
I also want to say that this is

14936
08:27:04,170 --> 08:27:06,170
the last time I will be voting

14937
08:27:06,170 --> 08:27:08,170
on the general plan when this

14938
08:27:08,170 --> 08:27:11,617
comes to us them in december

14939
08:27:13,100 --> 08:27:16,300
of 2027 I won't be here I term

14940
08:27:16,300 --> 08:27:17,200
out at the end of december and

14941
08:27:17,200 --> 08:27:20,620
so this decision that they will

14942
08:27:21,300 --> 08:27:23,110
be making I may be standing in

14943
08:27:23,110 --> 08:27:24,190
the audience coming in and

14944
08:27:24,190 --> 08:27:26,280
saying you're ruining

14945
08:27:26,280 --> 08:27:28,130
my neighborhood. I don't know.

14946
08:27:28,130 --> 08:27:30,290
but we'll see. We'll see. I

14947
08:27:30,290 --> 08:27:32,280
want to challenge you all to

14948
08:27:32,280 --> 08:27:35,280
continue. The engagement so far

14949
08:27:36,400 --> 08:27:38,220
has been really important and

14950
08:27:38,220 --> 08:27:40,100
and I want to challenge you to

14951
08:27:40,100 --> 08:27:42,000
continue to be involved,

14952
08:27:42,000 --> 08:27:43,210
continue to pay attention to

14953
08:27:43,210 --> 08:27:46,100
the issue as it goes forward

14954
08:27:46,100 --> 08:27:49,000
because as it's been explained,

14955
08:27:49,000 --> 08:27:50,200
this is the starting point.

14956
08:27:50,200 --> 08:27:52,230
this isn't the end. We are

14957
08:27:52,230 --> 08:27:54,240
giving direction for staff to

14958
08:27:54,240 --> 08:27:57,400
look at a variety of densities

14959
08:27:57,400 --> 08:28:00,600
but no decision is being made.

14960
08:28:00,600 --> 08:28:01,240
the decision on design

14961
08:28:01,240 --> 08:28:03,424
standards three storeys high

14962
08:28:04,300 --> 08:28:05,600
I've heard a lot of comments

14963
08:28:05,600 --> 08:28:07,000
about three storey high no

14964
08:28:07,000 --> 08:28:08,120
parking that was really

14965
08:28:08,120 --> 08:28:10,500
important that for me that we

14966
08:28:10,500 --> 08:28:12,110
added in the parking because I

14967
08:28:12,110 --> 08:28:14,160
was on council when we removed

14968
08:28:14,160 --> 08:28:17,100
parking a minimum parking as a

14969
08:28:17,100 --> 08:28:19,500
requirement we thought it would

14970
08:28:19,500 --> 08:28:21,400
rightsize itself and it did and

14971
08:28:21,400 --> 08:28:22,120
it didn't. But in the

14972
08:28:22,120 --> 08:28:24,140
neighborhoods we I really felt

14973
08:28:24,140 --> 08:28:26,200
we needed to bring back the

14974
08:28:26,200 --> 08:28:28,170
minimum requirements and staff

14975
08:28:28,170 --> 08:28:30,400
will take a look at that and

14976
08:28:30,400 --> 08:28:32,180
bring it in but your input is

14977
08:28:32,180 --> 08:28:34,260
really important from from all

14978
08:28:34,260 --> 08:28:36,426
sides because truthfully all

14979
08:28:37,500 --> 08:28:38,220
count all of us up here have

14980
08:28:38,220 --> 08:28:40,000
listened to what you have to

14981
08:28:40,000 --> 08:28:42,900
say to my council members

14982
08:28:42,900 --> 08:28:45,900
candela and ortiz >> I hear

14983
08:28:45,120 --> 08:28:48,700
your frustration and I don't

14984
08:28:48,700 --> 08:28:51,700
disagree with it. This feels

14985
08:28:52,000 --> 08:28:53,200
that it's a this is a very

14986
08:28:53,200 --> 08:28:56,200
complicated decision with a lot

14987
08:28:56,270 --> 08:28:59,200
of repercussions but you will

14988
08:28:59,200 --> 08:29:02,190
have a year plus to still craft

14989
08:29:02,190 --> 08:29:05,300
it and come back with the right

14990
08:29:05,300 --> 08:29:07,150
the right thing for the city

14991
08:29:07,150 --> 08:29:09,600
of san jose and for your

14992
08:29:09,600 --> 08:29:11,100
communities. I know there's

14993
08:29:11,100 --> 08:29:14,610
some pressure to to create a

14994
08:29:15,290 --> 08:29:17,429
boundary with vehicle miles

14995
08:29:18,300 --> 08:29:20,280
traveled and a barrier where

14996
08:29:20,280 --> 08:29:23,400
development won't occur. I

14997
08:29:23,400 --> 08:29:25,800
would caution you not to that

14998
08:29:25,800 --> 08:29:26,130
feels a little bit like

14999
08:29:26,130 --> 08:29:29,500
redlining to me and in the old

15000
08:29:29,500 --> 08:29:31,190
days redlining was bad. So

15001
08:29:31,190 --> 08:29:33,800
where you draw a circle around

15002
08:29:33,800 --> 08:29:35,000
an area in a city and said

15003
08:29:35,000 --> 08:29:36,000
we're not going to get people

15004
08:29:36,000 --> 08:29:38,300
who live in that so that area

15005
08:29:38,300 --> 08:29:41,500
housing and so I would just

15006
08:29:41,500 --> 08:29:42,180
caution you as you're thinking

15007
08:29:42,180 --> 08:29:44,100
about that think about the

15008
08:29:44,100 --> 08:29:46,800
unintended consequences and how

15009
08:29:46,800 --> 08:29:47,230
that's going to play out with

15010
08:29:47,230 --> 08:29:49,110
the greater the greater

15011
08:29:49,110 --> 08:29:50,280
community. And I realize I'm

15012
08:29:50,280 --> 08:29:52,110
lecturing but this is the last

15013
08:29:52,110 --> 08:29:54,270
time I get to lecture and

15014
08:29:54,270 --> 08:29:56,220
that's just the way it's going

15015
08:29:56,220 --> 08:30:00,222
to be right now. So again, stay

15016
08:30:02,160 --> 08:30:04,416
please community stay engaged.

15017
08:30:05,000 --> 08:30:08,900
this is it's important that we

15018
08:30:08,900 --> 08:30:10,200
truly >> preserve the the

15019
08:30:10,200 --> 08:30:11,100
character of our of our

15020
08:30:11,100 --> 08:30:13,300
neighborhoods too because

15021
08:30:13,300 --> 08:30:15,150
you're living you're buying or

15022
08:30:15,150 --> 08:30:16,140
you're renting in our

15023
08:30:16,140 --> 08:30:18,500
communities. You're sending

15024
08:30:18,500 --> 08:30:19,210
your kids to schools in those

15025
08:30:19,210 --> 08:30:21,260
communities for a reason

15026
08:30:21,260 --> 08:30:24,260
because you feel connected to

15027
08:30:24,280 --> 08:30:26,270
it. You feel safe there. Your

15028
08:30:26,270 --> 08:30:29,100
family may be there. So we need

15029
08:30:29,100 --> 08:30:30,290
to make sure that we protect

15030
08:30:30,290 --> 08:30:33,500
the dynamic and the the the

15031
08:30:33,500 --> 08:30:36,500
feelings of the communities and

15032
08:30:36,500 --> 08:30:37,270
that doesn't mean I'm against

15033
08:30:37,270 --> 08:30:39,270
density or development

15034
08:30:39,280 --> 08:30:41,200
development is really

15035
08:30:41,200 --> 08:30:42,140
important. We actually

15036
08:30:42,140 --> 08:30:45,400
absolutely must build but we

15037
08:30:45,400 --> 08:30:47,100
haven't seen the effects of sb

15038
08:30:47,100 --> 08:30:49,210
79 yet and we have a lot

15039
08:30:49,210 --> 08:30:52,300
of vacant schools that could be

15040
08:30:52,300 --> 08:30:54,100
in that pathway of development

15041
08:30:54,100 --> 08:30:56,270
for sb 79 where we're going to

15042
08:30:56,270 --> 08:30:58,210
get some high rises and we

15043
08:30:58,210 --> 08:31:00,130
won't even have an authority or

15044
08:31:00,130 --> 08:31:02,140
an ability to do anything about

15045
08:31:02,140 --> 08:31:04,160
it. I'm concerned about that

15046
08:31:04,160 --> 08:31:05,600
because I had a couple

15047
08:31:05,600 --> 08:31:08,606
of schools close in my district

15048
08:31:09,180 --> 08:31:12,900
I would to staff when you come

15049
08:31:12,900 --> 08:31:14,100
back with the design and

15050
08:31:14,100 --> 08:31:16,401
guidelines and future memos

15051
08:31:18,000 --> 08:31:20,230
could you please use language

15052
08:31:20,230 --> 08:31:23,700
that I or a fifth grader could

15053
08:31:23,700 --> 08:31:25,180
understand? It would really be

15054
08:31:25,180 --> 08:31:29,500
helpful for me to be able to

15055
08:31:29,500 --> 08:31:32,300
explain it to others. I think a

15056
08:31:32,300 --> 08:31:33,100
school board member actually

15057
08:31:33,100 --> 08:31:35,100
mentioned that and she's she's

15058
08:31:35,100 --> 08:31:37,130
right. The the the simpler you

15059
08:31:37,130 --> 08:31:38,210
make it for us the easier it

15060
08:31:38,210 --> 08:31:42,700
is. I think that is about it

15061
08:31:42,700 --> 08:31:45,150
but council member cohen I have

15062
08:31:45,150 --> 08:31:47,700
a question for you regarding

15063
08:31:47,700 --> 08:31:49,200
the south side or actually

15064
08:31:49,200 --> 08:31:50,260
staff you mentioned something

15065
08:31:50,260 --> 08:31:52,800
about the fire station being

15066
08:31:52,800 --> 08:31:55,120
retained as pickup. So do we

15067
08:31:55,120 --> 08:31:57,210
need to clued that in the >>

15068
08:31:57,210 --> 08:32:00,200
motion that the fire station be

15069
08:32:00,200 --> 08:32:03,200
retained in pcb? >> yes. Okay

15070
08:32:05,140 --> 08:32:07,170
then councilmember cohen, will

15071
08:32:07,170 --> 08:32:08,280
you include that? Yeah, I did

15072
08:32:08,280 --> 08:32:10,120
ask and I got the answer before

15073
08:32:10,120 --> 08:32:11,800
that we didn't have to that

15074
08:32:11,800 --> 08:32:12,900
they would understand that. But

15075
08:32:12,900 --> 08:32:13,260
if if it makes it clear we'll

15076
08:32:13,260 --> 08:32:15,600
go ahead and just use that in

15077
08:32:15,600 --> 08:32:18,606
the motion. Okay. With that, I

15078
08:32:19,180 --> 08:32:21,600
know we're going to hear from

15079
08:32:21,600 --> 08:32:22,700
councilmember mulcahy and thank

15080
08:32:22,700 --> 08:32:24,250
you for negotiating all of the

15081
08:32:24,250 --> 08:32:26,600
issues in your area which

15082
08:32:26,600 --> 08:32:27,270
frankly I haven't paid much

15083
08:32:27,270 --> 08:32:30,300
attention to because it's your

15084
08:32:30,300 --> 08:32:32,220
council district >> but that's

15085
08:32:32,220 --> 08:32:35,200
that I think what you've heard

15086
08:32:35,200 --> 08:32:37,180
is the council really does

15087
08:32:37,180 --> 08:32:39,170
listen to what you have to say.

15088
08:32:39,170 --> 08:32:41,110
we're concerned about

15089
08:32:41,110 --> 08:32:44,110
development and yeah and a

15090
08:32:46,300 --> 08:32:47,180
carte >> blanche change of >>

15091
08:32:47,180 --> 08:32:49,400
zoning from residential to

15092
08:32:49,400 --> 08:32:51,150
higher density across the city

15093
08:32:51,150 --> 08:32:52,110
there is a place for

15094
08:32:52,110 --> 08:32:54,190
development. It's not a place

15095
08:32:54,190 --> 08:32:56,190
in all of our neighborhoods

15096
08:32:56,190 --> 08:32:59,800
just to have a citywide zoning

15097
08:32:59,800 --> 08:33:01,170
change with that thank you,

15098
08:33:01,170 --> 08:33:03,150
mayor. Thanks, vice mayor.

15099
08:33:03,150 --> 08:33:04,220
appreciate your reflections.

15100
08:33:04,220 --> 08:33:05,270
let's turn now to

15101
08:33:05,270 --> 08:33:07,270
councilmember mckay. >> thank

15102
08:33:08,300 --> 08:33:11,300
you, mayor. Vice mayor paul,

15103
08:33:11,270 --> 08:33:13,130
you can add me to the same list

15104
08:33:13,130 --> 08:33:15,200
as ortiz and candela has been

15105
08:33:15,200 --> 08:33:17,290
frustrated with things and we

15106
08:33:17,290 --> 08:33:18,290
were in the same brown act

15107
08:33:18,290 --> 08:33:21,629
together. Who knew? So I want

15108
08:33:22,300 --> 08:33:24,600
to thank the city staff. You

15109
08:33:24,600 --> 08:33:26,170
guys have a very difficult job

15110
08:33:26,170 --> 08:33:28,230
balancing not only all the

15111
08:33:28,230 --> 08:33:30,210
public comment and how to

15112
08:33:30,210 --> 08:33:32,270
process that but certainly the

15113
08:33:32,270 --> 08:33:34,210
11 of us and all of our team.

15114
08:33:34,210 --> 08:33:36,110
so thank you for hanging in

15115
08:33:36,110 --> 08:33:39,700
there >> and and I you know, I

15116
08:33:39,700 --> 08:33:40,100
want to recognize the planning

15117
08:33:40,100 --> 08:33:41,260
commissioners who sat as the

15118
08:33:41,260 --> 08:33:44,100
four year review board and all

15119
08:33:44,100 --> 08:33:45,220
the neighbors who've taken time

15120
08:33:45,220 --> 08:33:48,622
to engage today tonight and all

15121
08:33:49,230 --> 08:33:52,200
the weeks leading up to this

15122
08:33:52,200 --> 08:33:53,250
meeting. So I want to start

15123
08:33:53,250 --> 08:33:56,100
with the items in district six

15124
08:33:56,100 --> 08:33:57,210
because district six is out

15125
08:33:57,210 --> 08:33:59,100
of the entire review process

15126
08:33:59,100 --> 08:34:01,110
leading up to this session is

15127
08:34:01,110 --> 08:34:02,250
the only district where there

15128
08:34:02,250 --> 08:34:04,425
were targeted changes made

15129
08:34:05,600 --> 08:34:06,100
specifically for the

15130
08:34:06,100 --> 08:34:07,250
opportunity for >> additional

15131
08:34:07,250 --> 08:34:09,425
residential capacity city and

15132
08:34:11,100 --> 08:34:13,260
this included both the alameda

15133
08:34:13,260 --> 08:34:15,200
and winchester boulevard. So I

15134
08:34:15,200 --> 08:34:16,230
want to talk about winchester

15135
08:34:16,230 --> 08:34:18,110
for a moment. This has been on

15136
08:34:18,110 --> 08:34:21,700
our agenda a lot over the last

15137
08:34:21,700 --> 08:34:25,100
year and I don't think that

15138
08:34:25,100 --> 08:34:27,000
there's a more involved

15139
08:34:27,000 --> 08:34:28,170
neighborhood than the cary

15140
08:34:28,170 --> 08:34:29,270
neighborhood in this and I just

15141
08:34:29,270 --> 08:34:32,800
want to paint a little picture.

15142
08:34:32,800 --> 08:34:34,110
this >> is not you know, your

15143
08:34:34,110 --> 08:34:36,220
single family neighborhood, you

15144
08:34:36,220 --> 08:34:38,230
know, not wanting encroachment

15145
08:34:38,230 --> 08:34:41,100
into it. This is a neighborhood

15146
08:34:41,100 --> 08:34:44,100
that sits directly astride the

15147
08:34:44,190 --> 08:34:46,210
valley fair mall which as we

15148
08:34:46,210 --> 08:34:49,200
know is our biggest mall, one

15149
08:34:49,200 --> 08:34:50,200
of the top producers in the

15150
08:34:50,200 --> 08:34:53,620
world price per foot and they

15151
08:34:54,000 --> 08:34:55,270
have growth capacity that

15152
08:34:55,270 --> 08:34:58,270
remains. They also have santana

15153
08:34:59,000 --> 08:35:02,000
row just adjacent to that. >>

15154
08:35:02,200 --> 08:35:03,160
so this is not just a

15155
08:35:03,160 --> 08:35:05,180
neighborhood that is pushing

15156
08:35:05,180 --> 08:35:08,280
back on high rise. Rasi this is

15157
08:35:08,280 --> 08:35:10,110
one that is already dealing

15158
08:35:10,110 --> 08:35:13,000
with real everyday issues. No

15159
08:35:13,000 --> 08:35:15,300
valley fare now charges for

15160
08:35:15,300 --> 08:35:17,140
parking. So this is these are

15161
08:35:17,140 --> 08:35:19,900
real issues for this community

15162
08:35:19,900 --> 08:35:20,900
and I want to make sure that

15163
08:35:20,900 --> 08:35:21,200
we're not just thinking about

15164
08:35:21,200 --> 08:35:24,620
that little burb, you know, and

15165
08:35:25,200 --> 08:35:26,000
just kind of pushing off

15166
08:35:26,000 --> 08:35:27,180
housing. This is an affected

15167
08:35:27,180 --> 08:35:30,600
impacted neighborhood. So we've

15168
08:35:30,600 --> 08:35:31,270
heard from our neighbors from

15169
08:35:31,270 --> 08:35:34,200
san jose or from city of santa

15170
08:35:34,200 --> 08:35:35,270
clara too. That's right across

15171
08:35:35,270 --> 08:35:38,110
the street of winchester. And

15172
08:35:38,110 --> 08:35:39,700
you know, we've heard from

15173
08:35:39,700 --> 08:35:40,150
their council member and mayor

15174
08:35:40,150 --> 08:35:41,110
have weighed in on their

15175
08:35:41,110 --> 08:35:44,100
concerns on this. It's worth

15176
08:35:44,100 --> 08:35:45,270
noting too that the planning

15177
08:35:45,270 --> 08:35:47,427
commission took five votes

15178
08:35:48,160 --> 08:35:50,180
specifically on trying to piece

15179
08:35:50,180 --> 08:35:52,220
together something for the

15180
08:35:52,220 --> 08:35:54,100
winchester corridor and

15181
08:35:54,100 --> 08:35:55,280
couldn't come to an agreement

15182
08:35:55,280 --> 08:35:58,220
on it. And it's late and

15183
08:35:58,220 --> 08:36:00,100
at first when I heard it I

15184
08:36:00,100 --> 08:36:01,150
thought it was distasteful. Now

15185
08:36:01,150 --> 08:36:02,210
I'm laughing about it but I

15186
08:36:02,210 --> 08:36:03,220
think he meant it tongue in

15187
08:36:03,220 --> 08:36:05,160
cheek. But after the last

15188
08:36:05,160 --> 08:36:06,280
meeting the planning and the

15189
08:36:06,280 --> 08:36:07,240
chair of the planning

15190
08:36:07,240 --> 08:36:09,500
commission said I think the

15191
08:36:09,500 --> 08:36:11,700
staff give council member

15192
08:36:11,700 --> 08:36:14,600
mulcahy our love knowing that

15193
08:36:14,600 --> 08:36:15,400
we were going to have this

15194
08:36:15,400 --> 08:36:17,200
difficult challenge to deal

15195
08:36:17,200 --> 08:36:19,400
with. >> so which is why I'm

15196
08:36:19,400 --> 08:36:20,150
proud to bring forward a

15197
08:36:20,150 --> 08:36:22,110
compromise proposal that gets

15198
08:36:22,110 --> 08:36:24,411
us residential development and

15199
08:36:25,140 --> 08:36:27,140
at the same time protects

15200
08:36:27,140 --> 08:36:29,140
neighborhoods serving retail

15201
08:36:29,200 --> 08:36:31,250
that is sort of from the

15202
08:36:31,250 --> 08:36:33,425
heading corner of winchester

15203
08:36:34,120 --> 08:36:36,300
down to forest which is

15204
08:36:36,300 --> 08:36:38,120
essentially the the you know,

15205
08:36:38,120 --> 08:36:41,900
the door of valley fair. So as

15206
08:36:41,900 --> 08:36:43,260
we work our way from heading on

15207
08:36:43,260 --> 08:36:45,240
the north we've got some

15208
08:36:45,240 --> 08:36:47,230
residential opportunities as we

15209
08:36:47,230 --> 08:36:49,170
work our way down to existing

15210
08:36:49,170 --> 08:36:51,417
commercial you know active

15211
08:36:52,270 --> 08:36:54,427
successful retail now that

15212
08:36:55,140 --> 08:36:57,230
serves that community. So

15213
08:36:57,230 --> 08:36:59,800
that's really what we're trying

15214
08:36:59,800 --> 08:37:01,200
to accomplish and I would

15215
08:37:01,200 --> 08:37:02,700
really appreciate you

15216
08:37:02,700 --> 08:37:04,000
considering a friendly

15217
08:37:04,000 --> 08:37:07,120
amendment to your motion that's

15218
08:37:07,120 --> 08:37:10,120
on the floor >> and your

15219
08:37:10,240 --> 08:37:12,230
request is to include the your

15220
08:37:12,230 --> 08:37:14,200
entire recommendation >> would

15221
08:37:14,200 --> 08:37:18,170
be one c on the domingo candela

15222
08:37:18,170 --> 08:37:21,280
mulcahy or t's memo. Okay I

15223
08:37:21,280 --> 08:37:24,100
mean I my preference was to

15224
08:37:24,100 --> 08:37:25,100
defer to the work you had done

15225
08:37:25,100 --> 08:37:26,230
in the community but I just I

15226
08:37:26,230 --> 08:37:28,130
wanted I had I had heard staff

15227
08:37:28,130 --> 08:37:29,150
with a little bit of concern

15228
08:37:29,150 --> 08:37:31,100
about the appropriate densities

15229
08:37:31,100 --> 08:37:32,230
and so can you I'll just ask

15230
08:37:32,230 --> 08:37:33,250
chris one more time and then

15231
08:37:33,250 --> 08:37:36,160
I'll >> yeah, happy to talk to

15232
08:37:36,160 --> 08:37:39,100
it. I think you know, I do

15233
08:37:39,100 --> 08:37:41,100
really appreciate

15234
08:37:41,120 --> 08:37:42,150
councilmember mckay's approach

15235
08:37:42,150 --> 08:37:44,800
in trying to sort of be

15236
08:37:44,800 --> 08:37:45,110
thoughtful about how to

15237
08:37:45,110 --> 08:37:47,411
approach this very specific

15238
08:37:48,130 --> 08:37:50,220
part of the recommendation. I

15239
08:37:50,220 --> 08:37:53,220
think you know, initially staff

15240
08:37:53,280 --> 08:37:55,800
had been looking this following

15241
08:37:55,800 --> 08:37:57,250
the proposal for the 17 storey

15242
08:37:57,250 --> 08:37:59,100
development on the particular

15243
08:37:59,100 --> 08:38:01,120
site and trying to find an

15244
08:38:01,120 --> 08:38:02,110
appropriate compromise in the

15245
08:38:02,110 --> 08:38:03,290
conversation at that time was

15246
08:38:03,290 --> 08:38:05,180
this is a you know, fairly

15247
08:38:05,180 --> 08:38:07,200
significant thoroughfare, you

15248
08:38:07,200 --> 08:38:09,140
know on the approach to valley

15249
08:38:09,140 --> 08:38:11,230
fair and santana row there's an

15250
08:38:11,230 --> 08:38:13,130
opportunity here to see

15251
08:38:13,130 --> 08:38:15,150
redevelopment for housing now

15252
08:38:15,150 --> 08:38:17,140
the way that we've considered

15253
08:38:17,140 --> 08:38:19,140
conversion of commercial sites

15254
08:38:19,140 --> 08:38:21,100
throughout the city which is

15255
08:38:21,100 --> 08:38:22,130
different to sort of how we're

15256
08:38:22,130 --> 08:38:23,180
talking about kind of other

15257
08:38:23,180 --> 08:38:25,200
density conversations in this

15258
08:38:25,200 --> 08:38:26,260
recommendation is typically in

15259
08:38:26,260 --> 08:38:28,100
the past we've pushed for

15260
08:38:28,100 --> 08:38:29,290
higher densities on commercial

15261
08:38:29,290 --> 08:38:31,500
sites and part of the reason

15262
08:38:31,500 --> 08:38:32,100
for that there's a couple

15263
08:38:32,100 --> 08:38:33,260
of tradeoffs and one, you know,

15264
08:38:33,260 --> 08:38:34,200
we're trying to create

15265
08:38:34,200 --> 08:38:36,000
opportunity for balanced growth

15266
08:38:36,000 --> 08:38:37,120
throughout san jose that

15267
08:38:37,120 --> 08:38:38,270
provides the sort of services,

15268
08:38:38,270 --> 08:38:39,270
amenities and retail

15269
08:38:39,270 --> 08:38:41,700
opportunities to support our

15270
08:38:41,700 --> 08:38:43,150
residents and when we convert

15271
08:38:43,150 --> 08:38:45,150
that it comes at a cost both

15272
08:38:45,150 --> 08:38:47,900
sort of amenities and services

15273
08:38:47,900 --> 08:38:48,150
cost as well as an actual

15274
08:38:48,150 --> 08:38:50,200
fiscal cost to the city. It was

15275
08:38:50,200 --> 08:38:52,110
mentioned earlier by a

15276
08:38:52,110 --> 08:38:53,150
councilmember committee about

15277
08:38:53,150 --> 08:38:54,180
sort of density levels and the

15278
08:38:54,180 --> 08:38:56,250
fiscal impact of land use. And

15279
08:38:56,250 --> 08:38:57,240
so typically we're always

15280
08:38:57,240 --> 08:38:58,260
looking at pushing those

15281
08:38:58,260 --> 08:39:00,000
densities on commercial

15282
08:39:00,000 --> 08:39:01,400
conversions and I think that's

15283
08:39:01,400 --> 08:39:03,500
part of our hesitation when we

15284
08:39:03,500 --> 08:39:04,220
think about the sort of long

15285
08:39:04,220 --> 08:39:06,160
range approach is that if we're

15286
08:39:06,160 --> 08:39:07,220
going to come down on that

15287
08:39:07,220 --> 08:39:10,200
density into those lower ranges

15288
08:39:10,200 --> 08:39:11,200
you know should we just leave

15289
08:39:11,200 --> 08:39:13,200
it as commercial and just sort

15290
08:39:13,200 --> 08:39:14,000
of wait for the long term

15291
08:39:14,000 --> 08:39:16,100
opportunity? Now the tradeoff

15292
08:39:16,100 --> 08:39:17,190
is that, you know, there is a

15293
08:39:17,190 --> 08:39:19,190
near-term opportunity to see

15294
08:39:19,190 --> 08:39:21,700
redevelopment and create

15295
08:39:21,700 --> 08:39:23,500
opportunity for housing units.

15296
08:39:23,500 --> 08:39:24,120
so I get I mean that's that's

15297
08:39:24,120 --> 08:39:25,170
really the sort of policy

15298
08:39:25,170 --> 08:39:27,190
consideration for council to

15299
08:39:27,190 --> 08:39:28,240
kind of give us the direction

15300
08:39:28,240 --> 08:39:30,150
>> and I >> would say and add

15301
08:39:30,150 --> 08:39:31,200
to that that there are two

15302
08:39:31,200 --> 08:39:32,260
of these properties that we're

15303
08:39:32,260 --> 08:39:34,426
really encouraging you know

15304
08:39:35,190 --> 08:39:37,110
what we're what we're placing

15305
08:39:37,110 --> 08:39:38,800
at it now encourages

15306
08:39:38,800 --> 08:39:39,100
development. Now there are two

15307
08:39:39,100 --> 08:39:40,230
blighted sites that have been

15308
08:39:40,230 --> 08:39:42,150
just sitting there and so they

15309
08:39:42,150 --> 08:39:44,800
are you know, challenges for

15310
08:39:44,800 --> 08:39:46,408
the neighborhoods as well.

15311
08:39:47,280 --> 08:39:49,900
okay. I mean I don't I guess I

15312
08:39:49,900 --> 08:39:50,700
don't hear I think we're

15313
08:39:50,700 --> 08:39:51,170
applying this is applied to

15314
08:39:51,170 --> 08:39:54,617
such a small set of properties

15315
08:39:55,600 --> 08:39:57,000
that it's you know while it's

15316
08:39:57,000 --> 08:39:58,300
my go against some of the

15317
08:39:58,300 --> 08:39:59,180
instincts that I have and the

15318
08:39:59,180 --> 08:40:02,600
staff has about density, you

15319
08:40:02,600 --> 08:40:03,120
know, given the work that

15320
08:40:03,120 --> 08:40:05,200
you've done, I'm I'm okay with

15321
08:40:05,200 --> 08:40:06,300
accepting it as a friendly

15322
08:40:06,300 --> 08:40:09,300
amendment on the motion >> to

15323
08:40:09,110 --> 08:40:11,000
approve the second >> great

15324
08:40:11,000 --> 08:40:14,000
thank you very much. So I do

15325
08:40:14,000 --> 08:40:14,280
want to talk about a couple

15326
08:40:14,280 --> 08:40:16,100
of other things I think it's

15327
08:40:16,100 --> 08:40:18,400
important to highlight west

15328
08:40:18,400 --> 08:40:21,600
san carlos this is item one d

15329
08:40:21,600 --> 08:40:22,800
which has already been picked

15330
08:40:22,800 --> 08:40:23,100
up but I just wanted to sort

15331
08:40:23,100 --> 08:40:25,200
of highlight it so I'm

15332
08:40:25,200 --> 08:40:26,150
supportive of staff's effort to

15333
08:40:26,150 --> 08:40:28,100
evaluate how mixed use

15334
08:40:28,100 --> 08:40:29,180
commercial designations

15335
08:40:29,180 --> 08:40:31,900
throughout the city are working

15336
08:40:31,900 --> 08:40:32,240
where they may not be and

15337
08:40:32,240 --> 08:40:34,140
identifying options for future

15338
08:40:34,140 --> 08:40:36,200
uses. And while conversion to

15339
08:40:36,200 --> 08:40:38,300
commercial may make sense in

15340
08:40:38,300 --> 08:40:40,230
some areas the west san carlos

15341
08:40:40,230 --> 08:40:42,210
corridor is well positioned to

15342
08:40:42,210 --> 08:40:44,421
pursue more new residential

15343
08:40:45,100 --> 08:40:47,000
development. Right now we have

15344
08:40:47,000 --> 08:40:49,000
1500 units recently delivered

15345
08:40:49,130 --> 08:40:51,300
under construction and or

15346
08:40:51,300 --> 08:40:53,170
submitted when we lost the

15347
08:40:53,170 --> 08:40:55,300
corner. If you remember last

15348
08:40:55,300 --> 08:40:57,200
year race in west san carlos to

15349
08:40:57,200 --> 08:40:59,200
a new chick-fil-a. I made a

15350
08:40:59,200 --> 08:41:00,160
commitment to those against

15351
08:41:00,160 --> 08:41:02,500
that used to identify more

15352
08:41:02,500 --> 08:41:04,300
residential opportunities. This

15353
08:41:04,300 --> 08:41:06,100
is part of that. The corridor

15354
08:41:06,100 --> 08:41:08,800
is in transition despite the

15355
08:41:08,800 --> 08:41:10,500
new construction which is sort

15356
08:41:10,500 --> 08:41:13,500
of more down towards downtown

15357
08:41:13,600 --> 08:41:15,900
san carlos is countless aging,

15358
08:41:15,900 --> 08:41:17,140
vacant and blighted buildings.

15359
08:41:17,140 --> 08:41:19,900
it is littered with unwanted

15360
08:41:19,900 --> 08:41:20,240
commercial activities and

15361
08:41:20,240 --> 08:41:22,130
code violations and has the

15362
08:41:22,130 --> 08:41:24,130
third highest concentration

15363
08:41:24,290 --> 08:41:26,190
of graffiti among major

15364
08:41:26,190 --> 08:41:29,100
corridors in the entire city

15365
08:41:29,100 --> 08:41:30,230
exploring the conversion

15366
08:41:30,230 --> 08:41:31,260
of some of the remaining mixed

15367
08:41:31,260 --> 08:41:33,000
use commercial sites to

15368
08:41:33,000 --> 08:41:34,280
residential would align with

15369
08:41:34,280 --> 08:41:36,700
our goals of creating

15370
08:41:36,700 --> 08:41:38,700
additional residential capacity

15371
08:41:38,100 --> 08:41:40,160
in our urban villages and along

15372
08:41:40,160 --> 08:41:41,290
our major boulevards. And I

15373
08:41:41,290 --> 08:41:43,200
want to thank

15374
08:41:43,200 --> 08:41:44,150
councilmember cohen for pulling

15375
08:41:44,150 --> 08:41:47,800
that into the motion. So on

15376
08:41:47,800 --> 08:41:50,800
residential density, I'm still

15377
08:41:50,110 --> 08:41:52,000
really, really having a

15378
08:41:52,000 --> 08:41:53,150
difficult time reconciling the

15379
08:41:53,150 --> 08:41:55,160
rationale or defense of the

15380
08:41:55,160 --> 08:41:57,416
proposed increase from 8 to 32

15381
08:41:58,180 --> 08:41:59,230
dwelling units per acre

15382
08:41:59,230 --> 08:42:01,130
effectively going from 1 to 4

15383
08:42:01,130 --> 08:42:03,190
units on a lot in a blanket

15384
08:42:03,190 --> 08:42:05,100
approach over the entire city.

15385
08:42:05,100 --> 08:42:06,150
I think that's sort of been the

15386
08:42:06,150 --> 08:42:07,280
common theme the blanket

15387
08:42:07,280 --> 08:42:10,170
approach doesn't even account

15388
08:42:10,170 --> 08:42:12,210
for 80 use generate used state

15389
08:42:12,210 --> 08:42:14,421
density bonus or the 450

15390
08:42:16,120 --> 08:42:18,150
something state laws around

15391
08:42:18,150 --> 08:42:21,615
housing and I think with those

15392
08:42:23,000 --> 08:42:25,240
80 use junior ideas I mean does

15393
08:42:25,240 --> 08:42:27,900
I think that math can get us up

15394
08:42:27,900 --> 08:42:29,270
to 32 units per acre in

15395
08:42:29,270 --> 08:42:32,110
practice >> so much of the

15396
08:42:32,110 --> 08:42:33,290
disagreement and certainly I

15397
08:42:33,290 --> 08:42:35,400
think why our brown act

15398
08:42:35,400 --> 08:42:36,400
couldn't come together with

15399
08:42:36,400 --> 08:42:38,200
five signatures is really on

15400
08:42:38,200 --> 08:42:40,600
this very item stems from the

15401
08:42:40,600 --> 08:42:42,700
variety of interpretations and

15402
08:42:42,700 --> 08:42:44,210
I know I'm treading on comments

15403
08:42:44,210 --> 08:42:47,170
from earlier but from each

15404
08:42:47,170 --> 08:42:49,300
code and my read is that our

15405
08:42:49,300 --> 08:42:50,220
commitment was to evaluate

15406
08:42:50,220 --> 08:42:52,180
opportunities for 210 housing

15407
08:42:52,180 --> 08:42:53,270
and locations throughout the

15408
08:42:53,270 --> 08:42:55,427
city including areas adjacent

15409
08:42:56,400 --> 08:42:57,800
to urban villages and

15410
08:42:57,800 --> 08:42:59,120
residential areas along major

15411
08:42:59,120 --> 08:43:01,160
streets. The intent was to

15412
08:43:01,160 --> 08:43:03,700
support missing middle housing

15413
08:43:03,700 --> 08:43:04,280
near urban villages, create and

15414
08:43:04,280 --> 08:43:06,700
transition between our

15415
08:43:06,700 --> 08:43:08,000
residential neighborhoods and

15416
08:43:08,000 --> 08:43:10,500
major thoroughfares. I don't

15417
08:43:10,500 --> 08:43:11,130
believe the commitment was

15418
08:43:11,130 --> 08:43:13,180
intended to require a one size

15419
08:43:13,180 --> 08:43:16,800
fits all approach. If it was,

15420
08:43:16,800 --> 08:43:18,400
why even call out urban

15421
08:43:18,400 --> 08:43:19,280
villages >> and major streets

15422
08:43:19,280 --> 08:43:21,160
to begin with? Couldn't the

15423
08:43:21,160 --> 08:43:23,500
phrase throughout the city just

15424
08:43:23,500 --> 08:43:24,200
as likely refer to being

15425
08:43:24,200 --> 08:43:26,220
equitable making sure we get

15426
08:43:26,220 --> 08:43:29,500
density across the city and not

15427
08:43:29,500 --> 08:43:30,170
unfairly consecrate

15428
08:43:30,170 --> 08:43:33,400
concentrated? I'd have expected

15429
08:43:33,400 --> 08:43:34,260
an approach that placed value

15430
08:43:34,260 --> 08:43:37,300
on the uniqueness and diversity

15431
08:43:37,300 --> 08:43:38,270
of our neighborhoods as well as

15432
08:43:38,270 --> 08:43:40,427
differences in access to

15433
08:43:41,000 --> 08:43:42,270
reliable transit and major

15434
08:43:42,270 --> 08:43:44,427
roadways. We should concentrate

15435
08:43:45,120 --> 08:43:46,250
more densely around urban

15436
08:43:46,250 --> 08:43:48,200
villages and apply more modest

15437
08:43:48,200 --> 08:43:50,200
increases in primarily

15438
08:43:50,210 --> 08:43:52,210
residential neighborhoods. We

15439
08:43:52,210 --> 08:43:54,140
should be more meticulous

15440
08:43:54,140 --> 08:43:56,700
considering all the variables

15441
08:43:56,700 --> 08:43:58,210
>> and the realities on the

15442
08:43:58,210 --> 08:44:01,700
ground. In my view this is a

15443
08:44:01,700 --> 08:44:02,270
more thoughtful and responsible

15444
08:44:02,270 --> 08:44:05,200
way to approach city planning.

15445
08:44:05,200 --> 08:44:06,600
this would allow us to create

15446
08:44:06,600 --> 08:44:07,160
the residential capacity we

15447
08:44:07,160 --> 08:44:09,230
need while recognizing that not

15448
08:44:09,230 --> 08:44:10,290
every lot and every

15449
08:44:10,290 --> 08:44:13,800
neighborhood is the same and

15450
08:44:13,800 --> 08:44:14,190
even consider for such an

15451
08:44:14,190 --> 08:44:16,260
important decision we must have

15452
08:44:16,260 --> 08:44:18,200
greater clarity on the

15453
08:44:18,200 --> 08:44:19,120
framework of our decision.

15454
08:44:19,120 --> 08:44:21,180
while my colleagues and I in

15455
08:44:21,180 --> 08:44:23,130
our memo pointed to our support

15456
08:44:23,130 --> 08:44:25,210
of the mayor, vice mayor and

15457
08:44:25,210 --> 08:44:27,190
and the others memo regarding

15458
08:44:27,190 --> 08:44:28,260
you know to environmentally

15459
08:44:28,260 --> 08:44:30,230
clear a range of options it

15460
08:44:30,230 --> 08:44:32,260
still gives me pause because

15461
08:44:32,260 --> 08:44:34,100
of the range of interpretations

15462
08:44:34,100 --> 08:44:37,400
of p 35 the city's promise to

15463
08:44:37,400 --> 08:44:40,120
cd and I'll just finish here >>

15464
08:44:40,120 --> 08:44:43,800
we can't make decisions >>

15465
08:44:43,800 --> 08:44:45,000
based on threats from a state

15466
08:44:45,000 --> 08:44:47,400
agency that has not yet given

15467
08:44:47,400 --> 08:44:49,120
us an answer. Well, some of us

15468
08:44:49,120 --> 08:44:51,150
an answer will actually be

15469
08:44:51,150 --> 08:44:53,150
acceptable to me. We have no

15470
08:44:53,150 --> 08:44:55,700
real opinion from our city

15471
08:44:55,700 --> 08:44:56,280
attorney speculation run by

15472
08:44:56,280 --> 08:44:59,100
city staff has created rumor

15473
08:44:59,100 --> 08:45:01,800
and innuendo and people around

15474
08:45:01,800 --> 08:45:02,130
this building have been playing

15475
08:45:02,130 --> 08:45:04,000
land use attorney for the last

15476
08:45:04,000 --> 08:45:05,250
couple of weeks that kind

15477
08:45:05,250 --> 08:45:07,280
of guns lightning only gets us

15478
08:45:07,280 --> 08:45:09,280
in trouble. There's just too

15479
08:45:09,280 --> 08:45:13,828
much at stake. I don't I went

15480
08:45:14,300 --> 08:45:15,290
last hoping that there would be

15481
08:45:15,290 --> 08:45:18,210
a magic answer to where we

15482
08:45:18,210 --> 08:45:20,240
go here and I appreciate all

15483
08:45:20,240 --> 08:45:22,110
of my colleagues, you know,

15484
08:45:22,110 --> 08:45:24,160
suggesting that this is only

15485
08:45:24,160 --> 08:45:25,140
the beginning of this

15486
08:45:25,140 --> 08:45:28,140
conversation and I just really

15487
08:45:29,600 --> 08:45:30,160
hope that we get the

15488
08:45:30,160 --> 08:45:32,400
information we need. The

15489
08:45:32,400 --> 08:45:33,230
community gets the information

15490
08:45:33,230 --> 08:45:36,900
it deserves and we can come to

15491
08:45:36,900 --> 08:45:38,130
a solution on this in december

15492
08:45:38,130 --> 08:45:40,413
of 27. Thank you. Thanks,

15493
08:45:47,200 --> 08:45:47,200
councilmember. Appreciate your

15494
08:45:47,200 --> 08:45:50,700
>> comments. It may give you

15495
08:45:50,700 --> 08:45:52,180
some solace that were we to

15496
08:45:52,180 --> 08:45:54,160
come back and ultimately agree

15497
08:45:54,160 --> 08:45:55,210
not I'm sure not ruling would

15498
08:45:55,210 --> 08:45:57,400
like this but were we to

15499
08:45:57,400 --> 08:46:00,604
go with 16 plus use and not

15500
08:46:02,100 --> 08:46:04,410
allow for the combination

15501
08:46:05,130 --> 08:46:06,200
of lots you would effectively

15502
08:46:06,200 --> 08:46:08,150
be defaulting test benign which

15503
08:46:08,150 --> 08:46:10,900
is what we have today so it

15504
08:46:10,900 --> 08:46:12,110
does preserve a range that

15505
08:46:12,110 --> 08:46:15,110
allows a status quo approach

15506
08:46:15,220 --> 08:46:17,220
but other options as well. Let

15507
08:46:17,220 --> 08:46:20,240
me turn to council. It could >>

15508
08:46:20,240 --> 08:46:23,800
first you know, I appreciate

15509
08:46:23,800 --> 08:46:25,800
everybody, you know, chiming in

15510
08:46:25,800 --> 08:46:27,100
and given their perspective

15511
08:46:27,100 --> 08:46:28,200
it's it's appreciated and >>

15512
08:46:28,200 --> 08:46:30,420
ditto councilmember mulcahy on

15513
08:46:31,000 --> 08:46:32,120
your talking points and you

15514
08:46:32,120 --> 08:46:34,150
know we talked a lot as we were

15515
08:46:34,150 --> 08:46:35,270
coming up with our our group

15516
08:46:35,270 --> 08:46:37,200
memos and you know, mayor, to

15517
08:46:37,200 --> 08:46:39,100
your point earlier about now

15518
08:46:39,100 --> 08:46:40,270
being the opportunity for for

15519
08:46:40,270 --> 08:46:43,240
input and it being critical to

15520
08:46:43,240 --> 08:46:46,230
offering the guidance to staff

15521
08:46:46,230 --> 08:46:48,500
in order to see a program that

15522
08:46:48,500 --> 08:46:50,400
best addresses the concerns

15523
08:46:50,400 --> 08:46:52,200
that we've we've outlined. And

15524
08:46:52,200 --> 08:46:53,150
with that I'd like to offer a

15525
08:46:53,150 --> 08:46:55,800
friendly amendment to the

15526
08:46:55,800 --> 08:46:58,140
motion and shout out to the

15527
08:46:58,140 --> 08:46:59,140
city attorney's office for

15528
08:46:59,140 --> 08:47:01,900
helping our office craft this

15529
08:47:01,900 --> 08:47:04,900
language with regards to the

15530
08:47:05,110 --> 08:47:07,700
environmental review and in

15531
08:47:07,700 --> 08:47:09,180
your all in your your memo with

15532
08:47:09,180 --> 08:47:11,290
amend and replace its one be

15533
08:47:11,290 --> 08:47:13,200
amend and replace e one to

15534
08:47:13,200 --> 08:47:14,220
direct staff to environmental

15535
08:47:14,220 --> 08:47:16,220
review increasing the densities

15536
08:47:16,220 --> 08:47:19,100
from 1624 and 32 and return to

15537
08:47:19,100 --> 08:47:21,130
the council with these options

15538
08:47:21,130 --> 08:47:23,170
etc. Etc. I'd like to be

15539
08:47:23,170 --> 08:47:26,170
specific in exploring it as

15540
08:47:27,130 --> 08:47:28,160
part of this environmental

15541
08:47:28,160 --> 08:47:30,200
review to study and explore

15542
08:47:30,200 --> 08:47:33,200
guardrails for high vmt areas

15543
08:47:34,800 --> 08:47:36,800
including ingress, egress,

15544
08:47:36,150 --> 08:47:38,140
public safety impacts to

15545
08:47:38,140 --> 08:47:39,250
emergency response times

15546
08:47:39,250 --> 08:47:42,100
associated with police and fire

15547
08:47:42,100 --> 08:47:43,120
public transit options as it

15548
08:47:43,120 --> 08:47:44,270
relates to mobility, parking

15549
08:47:44,270 --> 08:47:46,427
minimums and development design

15550
08:47:47,300 --> 08:47:48,800
standards. And this is all

15551
08:47:48,800 --> 08:47:50,130
language that I've ran through

15552
08:47:50,130 --> 08:47:52,500
the city attorney's office that

15553
08:47:52,500 --> 08:47:54,180
would help us get an extra you

15554
08:47:54,180 --> 08:47:56,150
know, review as part of the

15555
08:47:56,150 --> 08:47:57,240
environmental >> process that

15556
08:47:57,240 --> 08:47:59,300
they're going to be engaging in

15557
08:47:59,300 --> 08:48:00,800
to be able to flesh that out

15558
08:48:00,800 --> 08:48:02,110
given the impact to these

15559
08:48:02,110 --> 08:48:04,160
areas. And I would I would hope

15560
08:48:04,160 --> 08:48:06,000
you would accept this as a as a

15561
08:48:06,000 --> 08:48:09,200
as a friendly yeah. I >> mean I

15562
08:48:09,200 --> 08:48:10,500
think it makes sense. I will

15563
08:48:10,500 --> 08:48:11,200
tell you and I have mahan up

15564
08:48:11,200 --> 08:48:12,140
because I just wanted to say

15565
08:48:12,140 --> 08:48:13,190
some things that that have been

15566
08:48:13,190 --> 08:48:14,170
triggered by this conversation

15567
08:48:14,170 --> 08:48:16,700
since I went first and I and I

15568
08:48:16,700 --> 08:48:17,600
>> wanted to go I wanted to

15569
08:48:17,600 --> 08:48:17,290
go in front of you on purpose.

15570
08:48:17,290 --> 08:48:19,100
no, no, no. I wanted to but I'm

15571
08:48:19,100 --> 08:48:21,300
just I'm just saying that I

15572
08:48:21,300 --> 08:48:22,200
because I have some of the same

15573
08:48:22,200 --> 08:48:23,250
concerns that >> you have that

15574
08:48:23,250 --> 08:48:25,200
led you to your to your >>

15575
08:48:25,200 --> 08:48:27,900
memo. It's not like I didn't I

15576
08:48:27,900 --> 08:48:29,100
mean so so I appreciate that

15577
08:48:29,100 --> 08:48:30,130
there's a way to study these

15578
08:48:30,130 --> 08:48:32,413
impacts without at upfront

15579
08:48:33,120 --> 08:48:36,120
eliminating them from the where

15580
08:48:36,240 --> 08:48:39,190
we can make changes. I think

15581
08:48:39,190 --> 08:48:41,900
that was the point it was and

15582
08:48:41,900 --> 08:48:42,500
so I was actually going to ask

15583
08:48:42,500 --> 08:48:43,600
in my comments if there was a

15584
08:48:43,600 --> 08:48:44,190
way to be more granular. So I

15585
08:48:44,190 --> 08:48:46,500
appreciate what you're >>

15586
08:48:46,500 --> 08:48:48,405
recommending. Yeah sorry said

15587
08:48:49,280 --> 08:48:51,260
okay with the second okay

15588
08:48:51,260 --> 08:48:54,170
great. And you will you've

15589
08:48:54,170 --> 08:48:55,170
got that language clear the

15590
08:48:55,170 --> 08:48:56,210
city attorney and will share

15591
08:48:56,210 --> 08:48:58,120
with the clerk thanks

15592
08:48:58,120 --> 08:48:59,120
councilmember okay did you have

15593
08:48:59,120 --> 08:49:01,140
more was that that was that

15594
08:49:01,140 --> 08:49:02,200
concluded your remarks? Thank

15595
08:49:02,200 --> 08:49:03,280
you. Let me go to

15596
08:49:03,280 --> 08:49:06,190
councilmember casey. Well I'll

15597
08:49:06,190 --> 08:49:09,200
be brief. Mulcahy and domingos

15598
08:49:09,200 --> 08:49:12,100
stole a lot of my thunder. I

15599
08:49:12,100 --> 08:49:13,160
appreciate councilmember cohen

15600
08:49:13,160 --> 08:49:15,500
for incorporating the vmt

15601
08:49:15,500 --> 08:49:16,800
language. I know even in our

15602
08:49:16,800 --> 08:49:17,800
brown act >> we had had

15603
08:49:17,800 --> 08:49:19,210
conversations about that. The

15604
08:49:19,210 --> 08:49:22,100
challenge for me is I'm nearing

15605
08:49:22,100 --> 08:49:24,600
half a century in my district

15606
08:49:24,600 --> 08:49:26,000
and I remember looking over

15607
08:49:26,000 --> 08:49:27,130
my backyard and seeing orchards

15608
08:49:27,130 --> 08:49:28,260
and now it's a housing track so

15609
08:49:28,260 --> 08:49:30,110
I understand change is

15610
08:49:30,110 --> 08:49:32,170
inevitable. My concern is that

15611
08:49:32,170 --> 08:49:33,140
we're not doing this in a

15612
08:49:33,140 --> 08:49:34,240
thoughtful way and I think

15613
08:49:34,240 --> 08:49:36,280
mulcahy >> had mentioned that.

15614
08:49:36,280 --> 08:49:38,150
I think we're in a negotiation

15615
08:49:38,150 --> 08:49:40,250
with hpd and I don't think it's

15616
08:49:40,250 --> 08:49:42,190
appropriate for us to just

15617
08:49:42,190 --> 08:49:44,250
yield to their authority and do

15618
08:49:44,250 --> 08:49:46,120
what essentially negotiate

15619
08:49:46,120 --> 08:49:47,250
against ourselves. So I'm

15620
08:49:47,250 --> 08:49:49,230
supportive of us aggressively

15621
08:49:49,230 --> 08:49:51,423
negotiating for >> the lowest

15622
08:49:52,800 --> 08:49:54,400
density in areas where it

15623
08:49:54,400 --> 08:49:56,300
doesn't >> make sense. I ran on

15624
08:49:56,300 --> 08:49:57,100
density where it makes sense in

15625
08:49:57,100 --> 08:49:59,110
downtown and in transportation

15626
08:49:59,110 --> 08:50:01,400
corridors density does not make

15627
08:50:01,400 --> 08:50:03,900
sense in d-10 so ultimately I'm

15628
08:50:03,900 --> 08:50:05,270
open to our memos but when the

15629
08:50:05,270 --> 08:50:07,200
rubber hits the road I will not

15630
08:50:07,200 --> 08:50:09,150
support density >> in d-10

15631
08:50:09,150 --> 08:50:11,150
thank you. Thanks

15632
08:50:13,100 --> 08:50:15,500
councilmember. Let me go back

15633
08:50:15,500 --> 08:50:18,150
to sue. Let me go did I just

15634
08:50:18,150 --> 08:50:19,100
put >> my light on because I

15635
08:50:19,100 --> 08:50:20,600
assumed you're saying my name

15636
08:50:20,600 --> 08:50:22,260
so yes I'll circle the system

15637
08:50:22,260 --> 08:50:25,400
doesn't anyway, thank you. I

15638
08:50:25,400 --> 08:50:26,300
just want to start by just

15639
08:50:26,300 --> 08:50:27,170
saying look many of us in this

15640
08:50:27,170 --> 08:50:29,260
city are lucky in terms of the

15641
08:50:29,260 --> 08:50:31,500
timing of when we were able to

15642
08:50:31,500 --> 08:50:33,100
buy homes in our city. I just

15643
08:50:33,100 --> 08:50:34,130
tell the story I bought my home

15644
08:50:34,130 --> 08:50:37,000
27 years ago. I was just I mean

15645
08:50:37,000 --> 08:50:38,170
I was young, I was in my 20s. I

15646
08:50:38,170 --> 08:50:39,280
was able to buy a home in

15647
08:50:39,280 --> 08:50:42,200
my 20s. That home as my value

15648
08:50:42,200 --> 08:50:43,130
has appreciated by a factor

15649
08:50:43,130 --> 08:50:46,613
of six over 27 years now is

15650
08:50:47,700 --> 08:50:48,170
that an expectation that that

15651
08:50:48,170 --> 08:50:50,120
should happen? I don't believe

15652
08:50:50,120 --> 08:50:51,290
so and I will say that I

15653
08:50:51,290 --> 08:50:53,429
sometimes feel sheepish about

15654
08:50:54,600 --> 08:50:55,160
this whole thing that people

15655
08:50:55,160 --> 08:50:58,200
now can't do what I did right

15656
08:50:58,200 --> 08:51:00,170
and am I willing to say that

15657
08:51:00,170 --> 08:51:02,500
that some things that we do in

15658
08:51:02,500 --> 08:51:03,240
our neighborhood will allow

15659
08:51:03,240 --> 08:51:05,700
will force my home value to

15660
08:51:05,700 --> 08:51:07,100
depreciate a little bit so that

15661
08:51:07,100 --> 08:51:07,200
others will have more

15662
08:51:07,200 --> 08:51:08,240
opportunity? I think that's

15663
08:51:08,240 --> 08:51:10,250
reasonable. I've I've gained

15664
08:51:10,250 --> 08:51:11,280
and I've been and I've been

15665
08:51:11,280 --> 08:51:14,110
able to benefit from this

15666
08:51:14,110 --> 08:51:17,160
community and the and the and

15667
08:51:17,160 --> 08:51:18,170
the problems that we're trying

15668
08:51:18,170 --> 08:51:19,160
to deal with as a community. So

15669
08:51:19,160 --> 08:51:20,900
I'm just going to say that up

15670
08:51:20,900 --> 08:51:21,210
front I think it's important to

15671
08:51:21,210 --> 08:51:23,400
point that out and just say it

15672
08:51:23,400 --> 08:51:25,100
pains me that others can't have

15673
08:51:25,100 --> 08:51:26,110
what I have and that and we're

15674
08:51:26,110 --> 08:51:27,160
fortunate to do what I did

15675
08:51:27,160 --> 08:51:28,230
at the time that I was able to

15676
08:51:28,230 --> 08:51:31,100
do it. But a lot of things can

15677
08:51:31,100 --> 08:51:34,800
be true at once. One size fits

15678
08:51:34,800 --> 08:51:37,150
all is not always the best but

15679
08:51:37,150 --> 08:51:39,900
we >> shouldn't say that there

15680
08:51:39,900 --> 08:51:40,140
are areas of the city where we

15681
08:51:40,140 --> 08:51:42,200
can't provide opportunity for

15682
08:51:42,200 --> 08:51:43,260
people to be able to live there

15683
08:51:43,260 --> 08:51:45,270
. The whole idea of this

15684
08:51:45,270 --> 08:51:48,627
of this policy is that >> we

15685
08:51:49,900 --> 08:51:51,500
should be offering opportunity

15686
08:51:51,500 --> 08:51:52,160
for people to find places

15687
08:51:52,160 --> 08:51:54,100
anywhere in the city if they

15688
08:51:54,100 --> 08:51:55,800
want a certain school district,

15689
08:51:55,800 --> 08:51:57,260
if they want certain services

15690
08:51:57,260 --> 08:51:59,110
we provide opportunity and so

15691
08:51:59,110 --> 08:52:01,900
both those things are sort

15692
08:52:01,900 --> 08:52:02,220
of counter to each other. One

15693
08:52:02,220 --> 08:52:03,290
size fits all is not always the

15694
08:52:03,290 --> 08:52:06,160
best but we also can't paint

15695
08:52:06,160 --> 08:52:09,616
the broad brush of of saying

15696
08:52:10,120 --> 08:52:11,100
certain areas are going to be

15697
08:52:11,100 --> 08:52:13,250
off limits and I appreciate the

15698
08:52:13,250 --> 08:52:15,100
comments that vice mayor made

15699
08:52:15,100 --> 08:52:16,270
about if you do that you're

15700
08:52:16,270 --> 08:52:19,200
you're kind of keeping in place

15701
08:52:19,200 --> 08:52:21,100
policies that have gotten us

15702
08:52:21,100 --> 08:52:22,200
into this problem in the first

15703
08:52:22,200 --> 08:52:25,100
place. Character of cities and

15704
08:52:25,100 --> 08:52:26,100
neighborhoods necessarily

15705
08:52:26,100 --> 08:52:28,120
changes over time, right? I

15706
08:52:28,120 --> 08:52:29,240
mean we the fact that this was

15707
08:52:29,240 --> 08:52:30,290
the way it was 40 years ago

15708
08:52:30,290 --> 08:52:32,000
when people bought their homes

15709
08:52:32,000 --> 08:52:32,200
doesn't mean it's the way it's

15710
08:52:32,200 --> 08:52:33,120
going to be now as

15711
08:52:33,120 --> 08:52:34,700
councilmember casey just

15712
08:52:34,700 --> 08:52:36,100
pointed out. Right. I mean

15713
08:52:36,100 --> 08:52:37,400
there were orchards and there's

15714
08:52:37,400 --> 08:52:37,290
homes now there's going to be

15715
08:52:37,290 --> 08:52:39,600
some density >> and things are

15716
08:52:39,600 --> 08:52:40,800
changing and we should be able

15717
08:52:40,800 --> 08:52:44,000
to work work on that. But one

15718
08:52:44,000 --> 08:52:44,170
of the things that been

15719
08:52:44,170 --> 08:52:45,160
occurring to me during this

15720
08:52:45,160 --> 08:52:47,270
conversation is you know, I've

15721
08:52:47,270 --> 08:52:48,290
been pushing back on the one

15722
08:52:48,290 --> 08:52:50,110
size fits all from a state

15723
08:52:50,110 --> 08:52:51,140
standpoint from our state

15724
08:52:51,140 --> 08:52:52,210
legislators this idea that

15725
08:52:52,210 --> 08:52:53,240
every city should have this

15726
08:52:53,240 --> 08:52:54,150
should have the same set

15727
08:52:54,150 --> 08:52:57,200
of rules >> we you know, we

15728
08:52:57,200 --> 08:52:58,160
shouldn't necessarily accept

15729
08:52:58,160 --> 08:52:59,230
that one size can fit all in

15730
08:52:59,230 --> 08:53:01,140
our city and I and it's

15731
08:53:01,140 --> 08:53:03,600
difficult to ask how can we be

15732
08:53:03,600 --> 08:53:05,600
more granular in this decision

15733
08:53:05,600 --> 08:53:08,600
making and I agree with

15734
08:53:08,700 --> 08:53:08,260
councilmember ken jealous and

15735
08:53:08,260 --> 08:53:10,120
your basic premise that we

15736
08:53:10,120 --> 08:53:12,500
should be more granular. I

15737
08:53:12,500 --> 08:53:13,900
don't necessarily agree that

15738
08:53:13,900 --> 08:53:15,200
that that the vmt was the right

15739
08:53:15,200 --> 08:53:16,240
approach because it basically

15740
08:53:16,240 --> 08:53:18,800
shuts down huge swaths of our

15741
08:53:18,800 --> 08:53:19,190
city from having the

15742
08:53:19,190 --> 08:53:21,200
opportunity that's that's the

15743
08:53:21,200 --> 08:53:21,270
challenge here and I just

15744
08:53:21,270 --> 08:53:23,900
wanted to say that so I mean

15745
08:53:23,900 --> 08:53:25,280
it's a challenge then put on

15746
08:53:25,280 --> 08:53:27,500
the planning department >>

15747
08:53:27,500 --> 08:53:28,210
going forward to think about

15748
08:53:28,210 --> 08:53:30,100
this granularity what makes

15749
08:53:30,100 --> 08:53:31,110
sense? How can we be more

15750
08:53:31,110 --> 08:53:33,190
focused without shutting it

15751
08:53:33,190 --> 08:53:35,190
down anywhere? I don't know the

15752
08:53:35,190 --> 08:53:37,200
answer to that. But >> you

15753
08:53:37,200 --> 08:53:39,100
know, even when we study 1632,

15754
08:53:39,100 --> 08:53:41,120
16, 2432 are there some places

15755
08:53:41,120 --> 08:53:42,210
where 16 makes sense in some

15756
08:53:42,210 --> 08:53:44,140
places where 32 makes sense. I

15757
08:53:44,140 --> 08:53:46,170
know it's a lot of work to sort

15758
08:53:46,170 --> 08:53:47,140
of decide neighborhood by

15759
08:53:47,140 --> 08:53:48,150
neighborhood what makes sense

15760
08:53:48,150 --> 08:53:50,500
but I just we shouldn't

15761
08:53:50,500 --> 08:53:51,140
necessarily be shutting off

15762
08:53:51,140 --> 08:53:54,614
that conversation. I think I do

15763
08:53:55,300 --> 08:53:56,150
appreciate the memo from

15764
08:53:56,150 --> 08:53:57,200
today's committee and I when I

15765
08:53:57,200 --> 08:53:58,190
read it I thought this

15766
08:53:58,190 --> 08:53:59,160
sounds like a good idea but I

15767
08:53:59,160 --> 08:54:00,180
just needed a little more

15768
08:54:00,180 --> 08:54:03,150
explanation on it. >> the idea

15769
08:54:03,150 --> 08:54:05,000
that we can bring back some

15770
08:54:05,000 --> 08:54:06,120
local control over design

15771
08:54:06,120 --> 08:54:08,160
standards and what gets built

15772
08:54:08,160 --> 08:54:10,100
is important and I will say

15773
08:54:10,100 --> 08:54:11,900
this is a big fight across the

15774
08:54:11,900 --> 08:54:13,400
state. I'm I am the chair

15775
08:54:13,400 --> 08:54:14,800
of the resolutions committee

15776
08:54:14,800 --> 08:54:15,600
for the league of the cities

15777
08:54:15,600 --> 08:54:16,160
of the state of california.

15778
08:54:16,160 --> 08:54:18,416
this >> september >> at our

15779
08:54:19,800 --> 08:54:20,700
conference there is a

15780
08:54:20,700 --> 08:54:21,800
resolution being brought

15781
08:54:21,800 --> 08:54:23,220
forward >> to the general

15782
08:54:23,220 --> 08:54:24,260
assembly >> of the league that

15783
08:54:24,260 --> 08:54:26,100
I will be evaluating as chair

15784
08:54:26,100 --> 08:54:27,800
as part of that committee will

15785
08:54:27,800 --> 08:54:29,000
be evaluating asking for a

15786
08:54:29,000 --> 08:54:30,250
working group to figure out how

15787
08:54:30,250 --> 08:54:32,170
to put how to develop a

15788
08:54:32,170 --> 08:54:33,230
potential state constitutional

15789
08:54:33,230 --> 08:54:35,180
amendment to bring back local

15790
08:54:35,180 --> 08:54:37,200
control of land use for cities

15791
08:54:37,200 --> 08:54:38,700
because this is the push that

15792
08:54:38,700 --> 08:54:39,250
cities are are pushing back on

15793
08:54:39,250 --> 08:54:41,200
the state. This conversation is

15794
08:54:41,200 --> 08:54:42,270
going >> to be had at the state

15795
08:54:42,270 --> 08:54:46,150
level so this is not easy and I

15796
08:54:46,150 --> 08:54:48,150
and you know I do you know

15797
08:54:48,150 --> 08:54:50,100
while I appreciate some of the

15798
08:54:50,100 --> 08:54:51,500
intent of some of the state

15799
08:54:51,500 --> 08:54:52,270
laws, they have continued to

15800
08:54:52,270 --> 08:54:55,700
pile on and pile on and it's

15801
08:54:55,700 --> 08:54:57,400
made it our lives difficult. So

15802
08:54:57,400 --> 08:54:59,000
I just want to say, you know, I

15803
08:54:59,000 --> 08:55:00,260
made a motion I support some

15804
08:55:00,260 --> 08:55:01,270
of the underlying ideas here

15805
08:55:01,270 --> 08:55:02,270
but it was never totally

15806
08:55:02,270 --> 08:55:05,160
comfortable to me that we were

15807
08:55:05,160 --> 08:55:06,220
doing this broad brush. I just

15808
08:55:06,220 --> 08:55:08,130
wanted to say that here and

15809
08:55:08,130 --> 08:55:11,000
sort of leave that out there as

15810
08:55:11,000 --> 08:55:12,120
a thought as we move forward in

15811
08:55:12,120 --> 08:55:13,220
the next 16 months before it

15812
08:55:13,220 --> 08:55:15,210
comes back to council. Thank

15813
08:55:15,210 --> 08:55:17,210
you. Great. Thanks

15814
08:55:19,800 --> 08:55:20,200
councilmember. I appreciate

15815
08:55:20,200 --> 08:55:21,270
that and all the friendly

15816
08:55:21,270 --> 08:55:23,100
amendments that you accepted

15817
08:55:23,100 --> 08:55:25,130
along with the vice mayor

15818
08:55:25,130 --> 08:55:28,100
councilor casey. Yes. Sorry for

15819
08:55:28,100 --> 08:55:29,150
extending conversation. I just

15820
08:55:29,150 --> 08:55:30,200
want to push back a bit on this

15821
08:55:30,200 --> 08:55:32,900
notion that density anywhere

15822
08:55:32,900 --> 08:55:33,110
at least to affordability I

15823
08:55:33,110 --> 08:55:33,260
don't know that that

15824
08:55:33,260 --> 08:55:35,270
necessarily bears out in

15825
08:55:35,270 --> 08:55:37,427
reality. I >> think david

15826
08:55:38,600 --> 08:55:39,600
noelle has a good point in

15827
08:55:39,600 --> 08:55:40,240
terms of condo defect if we

15828
08:55:40,240 --> 08:55:43,200
build a torn of condos, smaller

15829
08:55:43,200 --> 08:55:44,210
units you know affordable by

15830
08:55:44,210 --> 08:55:46,100
design that will lead to

15831
08:55:46,100 --> 08:55:48,220
affordability. But a multi-unit

15832
08:55:48,220 --> 08:55:50,600
in los gatos for example is

15833
08:55:50,600 --> 08:55:52,100
still very expensive. A

15834
08:55:52,100 --> 08:55:54,250
multi-unit in almaden is still

15835
08:55:54,250 --> 08:55:55,220
going to be very expensive.

15836
08:55:55,220 --> 08:55:56,500
it's not going to be

15837
08:55:56,500 --> 08:55:58,700
affordable. So I just want to

15838
08:55:58,700 --> 08:55:59,120
push back on this idea that

15839
08:55:59,120 --> 08:56:00,140
density naturally be used to

15840
08:56:00,140 --> 08:56:01,160
affordability because I don't

15841
08:56:01,160 --> 08:56:04,160
think that's necessarily true.

15842
08:56:05,500 --> 08:56:08,140
all right. And and I suspect

15843
08:56:08,140 --> 08:56:09,140
this is going to be a very

15844
08:56:09,140 --> 08:56:11,800
engaging ongoing conversation

15845
08:56:11,800 --> 08:56:12,500
for this council over the

15846
08:56:12,500 --> 08:56:13,150
coming years. But let me turn

15847
08:56:13,150 --> 08:56:14,260
now to councilmember tordillos

15848
08:56:14,260 --> 08:56:16,220
>> and I would push back

15849
08:56:16,220 --> 08:56:18,800
against that notion. You know

15850
08:56:18,800 --> 08:56:19,180
the city has actually looked

15851
08:56:19,180 --> 08:56:21,000
at this. They did a feasibility

15852
08:56:21,000 --> 08:56:22,600
study on missing rental housing

15853
08:56:22,600 --> 08:56:24,400
in 2021 and across the board

15854
08:56:24,400 --> 08:56:26,110
they found that 4 to 8 unit

15855
08:56:26,110 --> 08:56:27,250
projects would be cheaper than

15856
08:56:27,250 --> 08:56:29,600
the lower density projects that

15857
08:56:29,600 --> 08:56:30,220
they studied. This can also be

15858
08:56:30,220 --> 08:56:32,100
seen in data on actual missing

15859
08:56:32,100 --> 08:56:33,900
little programs that have been

15860
08:56:33,900 --> 08:56:34,220
developed in other cities.

15861
08:56:34,220 --> 08:56:36,200
there have been studies of 4000

15862
08:56:36,200 --> 08:56:38,600
missing middle homes built in

15863
08:56:38,600 --> 08:56:40,900
seattle over the past 20 years

15864
08:56:40,900 --> 08:56:41,110
and they consistently showed

15865
08:56:41,110 --> 08:56:42,190
that higher density projects

15866
08:56:42,190 --> 08:56:44,400
had lower prices been lower

15867
08:56:44,400 --> 08:56:47,400
density projects. Oh boy. Here

15868
08:56:48,200 --> 08:56:50,290
we go. All right. We only do a

15869
08:56:50,290 --> 08:56:52,190
study session on this specific

15870
08:56:52,190 --> 08:56:54,419
topic, councilor. Okay. >> so

15871
08:56:55,400 --> 08:56:57,400
as you need to do in every

15872
08:56:57,400 --> 08:56:59,100
debate is define the terms. So

15873
08:56:59,100 --> 08:57:01,000
a blanket statement of more

15874
08:57:01,000 --> 08:57:02,240
density leads to cheaper

15875
08:57:02,240 --> 08:57:03,270
development. That's just not

15876
08:57:03,270 --> 08:57:06,200
true. Are you talking about 100

15877
08:57:06,200 --> 08:57:09,620
unit density versus a duplex? I

15878
08:57:10,230 --> 08:57:11,210
don't know that that actually

15879
08:57:11,210 --> 08:57:13,110
bears out so I would push back.

15880
08:57:13,110 --> 08:57:16,600
I think that's a gut feeling.

15881
08:57:16,600 --> 08:57:17,210
I'd look at this study and I

15882
08:57:17,210 --> 08:57:18,240
assure you that there's issues

15883
08:57:18,240 --> 08:57:20,160
with it. There's no way you can

15884
08:57:20,160 --> 08:57:21,230
tell me you look at vancouver,

15885
08:57:21,230 --> 08:57:23,170
you look at like I mentioned

15886
08:57:23,170 --> 08:57:24,250
los gatos, you look at hong

15887
08:57:24,250 --> 08:57:26,900
kong international cities, the

15888
08:57:26,900 --> 08:57:28,200
demand >> for housing in

15889
08:57:28,200 --> 08:57:30,800
certain areas is so high and

15890
08:57:30,800 --> 08:57:31,170
it's supply and demand I get

15891
08:57:31,170 --> 08:57:32,210
it. But there's enough of the

15892
08:57:32,210 --> 08:57:34,200
demand where we we can't

15893
08:57:34,200 --> 08:57:35,250
outstrip the demand with the

15894
08:57:35,250 --> 08:57:37,500
supply at the moment in certain

15895
08:57:37,500 --> 08:57:37,290
areas in san jose in

15896
08:57:37,290 --> 08:57:39,260
particular. So I push back on

15897
08:57:39,260 --> 08:57:42,626
your push back. All right. I

15898
08:57:44,300 --> 08:57:45,800
think at that point we're going

15899
08:57:45,800 --> 08:57:47,160
to pause and take a vote. Thank

15900
08:57:47,160 --> 08:57:48,120
you all. It's a great

15901
08:57:48,120 --> 08:57:49,260
discussion. I appreciate all

15902
08:57:49,260 --> 08:57:51,110
the really thoughtful memos and

15903
08:57:51,110 --> 08:57:52,190
recommendations. Ions thank

15904
08:57:52,190 --> 08:57:53,290
you, councilor cohen, for

15905
08:57:53,290 --> 08:57:55,429
managing the motion there >>

15906
08:57:57,120 --> 08:57:59,100
and staff thank >> you for all

15907
08:57:59,100 --> 08:58:00,400
of your work and thank you the

15908
08:58:00,400 --> 08:58:01,200
members of the committee you

15909
08:58:01,200 --> 08:58:04,300
hung in there all the way. So

15910
08:58:04,300 --> 08:58:05,180
what time >> is it? We're

15911
08:58:05,180 --> 08:58:07,110
at 1030. Impressive. Thank you.

15912
08:58:07,110 --> 08:58:09,160
I appreciate it, toni. Let's

15913
08:58:09,160 --> 08:58:11,160
vote

15914
08:58:22,110 --> 08:58:26,170
. I, I still have one >> got to

15915
08:58:26,170 --> 08:58:29,170
hold out. Okay. Keep motion

15916
08:58:30,240 --> 08:58:33,240
passes 8 to 3 with dawn kendall

15917
08:58:34,170 --> 08:58:36,270
and casey voting no. >> all

15918
08:58:36,270 --> 08:58:39,627
right. Okay, we are thank you

15919
08:58:41,120 --> 08:58:45,000
all. We are >> on to open forum

15920
08:58:45,000 --> 08:58:48,000
>> and this is an opportunity

15921
08:58:48,170 --> 08:58:49,180
for members of the public to

15922
08:58:49,180 --> 08:58:51,200
comment on city business that

15923
08:58:51,200 --> 08:58:54,620
was not on today's agenda >>

15924
08:58:55,120 --> 08:58:58,120
2012 credit cards. Okay. I have

15925
08:58:58,160 --> 08:59:01,700
>> ernestina if you're still

15926
08:59:01,700 --> 08:59:04,607
here brady how will rich ted

15927
08:59:07,160 --> 08:59:11,216
scarlett and I don't know this

15928
08:59:12,190 --> 08:59:16,819
the pine on lou cassie I don't

15929
08:59:17,130 --> 08:59:18,270
know what that means but those

15930
08:59:18,270 --> 08:59:22,600
are the ones I have in person.

15931
08:59:22,600 --> 08:59:23,180
if nobody is coming down I'm

15932
08:59:23,180 --> 08:59:25,140
going to go ahead and go to

15933
08:59:25,140 --> 08:59:28,900
brian followed by blair online

15934
08:59:28,900 --> 08:59:32,209
. Can you hear me okay? Yes, I

15935
08:59:36,100 --> 08:59:38,300
just I watch the whole thing.

15936
08:59:38,300 --> 08:59:39,160
I'm really glad that we do this

15937
08:59:39,160 --> 08:59:41,200
because I was able to

15938
08:59:41,200 --> 08:59:44,200
go through about 500 coins and

15939
08:59:44,900 --> 08:59:47,400
do my laundry and listen to but

15940
08:59:47,400 --> 08:59:48,220
I have to say this and all

15941
08:59:48,220 --> 08:59:50,100
of you worked very hard. I mean

15942
08:59:50,100 --> 08:59:51,180
I have agreed with everything

15943
08:59:51,180 --> 08:59:55,218
but I have to take back what

15944
08:59:56,000 --> 08:59:57,500
I've said a couple of times

15945
08:59:57,500 --> 08:59:58,260
where nobody reads emails that

15946
08:59:58,260 --> 09:00:01,100
I have been wrong about that

15947
09:00:01,100 --> 09:00:02,170
and proven wrong today on

15948
09:00:02,170 --> 09:00:03,190
several occasions and I

15949
09:00:03,190 --> 09:00:05,900
apologize for that. Thank you

15950
09:00:05,900 --> 09:00:07,250
and have a good evening. Thank

15951
09:00:07,250 --> 09:00:10,200
you. Blair remember these are

15952
09:00:10,200 --> 09:00:11,240
for topics not on the agenda,

15953
09:00:11,240 --> 09:00:14,240
>> right? Blair beakman hi. I

15954
09:00:15,260 --> 09:00:16,240
got quite a learning lesson

15955
09:00:16,240 --> 09:00:18,160
today. Thank you. I hopefully I

15956
09:00:18,160 --> 09:00:19,260
can talk about it. Wilson open

15957
09:00:19,260 --> 09:00:21,426
government tomorrow I thanks

15958
09:00:23,130 --> 09:00:25,900
that you have zoom >> available

15959
09:00:25,900 --> 09:00:28,220
again by the way I >> it's

15960
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important to the city

15961
09:00:30,500 --> 09:00:32,270
of oakland is there developing

15962
09:00:32,270 --> 09:00:34,210
a full community process to

15963
09:00:34,210 --> 09:00:35,290
address the future of how to

15964
09:00:35,290 --> 09:00:38,170
leave block that they can look

15965
09:00:38,170 --> 09:00:40,200
for another aop vendor as a

15966
09:00:40,200 --> 09:00:42,250
full community process they're

15967
09:00:42,250 --> 09:00:45,250
taking you know another 12 to

15968
09:00:46,700 --> 09:00:48,600
16 months to do that that

15969
09:00:48,600 --> 09:00:50,100
they've already started I think

15970
09:00:50,100 --> 09:00:51,130
san jose and san diego

15971
09:00:51,130 --> 09:00:52,150
definitely can be doing the

15972
09:00:52,150 --> 09:00:54,230
same sort of things >> you guys

15973
09:00:54,230 --> 09:00:57,230
kind of oh it you obviously put

15974
09:00:57,230 --> 09:00:59,900
in way too much surveillance

15975
09:00:59,900 --> 09:01:00,250
tech under the carter

15976
09:01:00,250 --> 09:01:02,800
administration. I hope you

15977
09:01:02,800 --> 09:01:03,130
learned an important lessons

15978
09:01:03,130 --> 09:01:05,130
that minimal amounts of tech

15979
09:01:05,130 --> 09:01:06,180
can do the same amount

15980
09:01:06,180 --> 09:01:08,140
of public safety work and those

15981
09:01:08,140 --> 09:01:09,180
are important lessons to learn.

15982
09:01:09,180 --> 09:01:11,600
good luck on leaving flock and

15983
09:01:11,600 --> 09:01:12,600
finding a new way. Hope your

15984
09:01:12,600 --> 09:01:15,600
vendor that we practice pete >>

15985
09:01:15,130 --> 09:01:19,813
rich see yeah I'm here. Are you

15986
09:01:24,230 --> 09:01:28,180
able to hear me? Yes. So this

15987
09:01:28,180 --> 09:01:31,618
is in regards to stinky new

15988
09:01:33,210 --> 09:01:36,210
food trucks. >> oh okay. Yeah.

15989
09:01:40,200 --> 09:01:43,220
so we're I don't know why it's

15990
09:01:43,220 --> 09:01:46,170
echoing but anyways we are here

15991
09:01:46,170 --> 09:01:49,200
about talking about your you're

15992
09:01:49,200 --> 09:01:51,420
moving every 15 minutes. Are >>

15993
09:01:59,120 --> 09:02:03,140
you done? No. So you guys have

15994
09:02:03,140 --> 09:02:05,180
a lot of that that we have to

15995
09:02:05,180 --> 09:02:07,250
move our food truck every 15

15996
09:02:07,250 --> 09:02:10,190
minutes and that's it's pretty

15997
09:02:10,190 --> 09:02:13,100
much impossible because we have

15998
09:02:13,100 --> 09:02:14,270
it takes 15 minutes just to get

15999
09:02:14,270 --> 09:02:17,270
the food truck >> started and

16000
09:02:20,000 --> 09:02:21,230
yes so that's what we're here

16001
09:02:21,230 --> 09:02:24,230
for. Okay thank >> you colin

16002
09:02:24,250 --> 09:02:28,225
user to start six to unmute hi

16003
09:02:32,170 --> 09:02:35,617
I like to address the situation

16004
09:02:36,200 --> 09:02:37,210
at the corner of speak in

16005
09:02:37,210 --> 09:02:40,621
lucchese there's been a pile

16006
09:02:41,500 --> 09:02:43,130
of debris that is impeding

16007
09:02:43,130 --> 09:02:46,130
traffic. I have contacted the

16008
09:02:47,100 --> 09:02:48,150
city numerous times and

16009
09:02:48,150 --> 09:02:50,000
contacted the vice mayor

16010
09:02:50,000 --> 09:02:52,120
numerous times and her staff

16011
09:02:52,120 --> 09:02:53,230
and this pile just keeps

16012
09:02:53,230 --> 09:02:55,200
growing bigger and bigger with

16013
09:02:55,200 --> 09:02:59,000
more trash and it needs to be

16014
09:02:59,000 --> 09:03:00,200
removed just in a red zone.

16015
09:03:00,200 --> 09:03:02,150
it's actually an emergency zone

16016
09:03:02,150 --> 09:03:03,250
for emergency vehicles and

16017
09:03:03,250 --> 09:03:06,400
painted red and there's no

16018
09:03:06,400 --> 09:03:07,210
reason that it can't be

16019
09:03:07,210 --> 09:03:09,900
removed. I realize they may

16020
09:03:09,900 --> 09:03:11,000
pile stuff back after is

16021
09:03:11,000 --> 09:03:12,600
removed but it shouldn't stay

16022
09:03:12,600 --> 09:03:13,200
there till it's dried out as a

16023
09:03:13,200 --> 09:03:15,190
fire hazard. It needs to be

16024
09:03:15,190 --> 09:03:18,600
moved and it cause it's almost

16025
09:03:18,600 --> 09:03:19,190
caused me to rear end people

16026
09:03:19,190 --> 09:03:20,280
because when they go to make a

16027
09:03:20,280 --> 09:03:22,290
right hand turn they break

16028
09:03:22,290 --> 09:03:24,170
because there's debris in the

16029
09:03:24,170 --> 09:03:26,120
way. It shouldn't be that way

16030
09:03:26,120 --> 09:03:27,170
and there's no way it should

16031
09:03:27,170 --> 09:03:29,000
take this long to have it

16032
09:03:29,000 --> 09:03:31,140
removed. I've called d o t I've

16033
09:03:31,140 --> 09:03:33,100
called tampa office and no one

16034
09:03:33,100 --> 09:03:36,610
is. Thank you, sheila. I I >>

16035
09:03:42,290 --> 09:03:45,260
own property on medgar avenue

16036
09:03:45,260 --> 09:03:48,120
in san jose and at the corner

16037
09:03:48,120 --> 09:03:51,120
of medgar and the entrance to

16038
09:03:51,120 --> 09:03:53,250
the 280 freeway is a huge

16039
09:03:53,250 --> 09:03:55,200
parking lot that would be

16040
09:03:55,200 --> 09:03:58,200
perfect for another cerato huge

16041
09:03:59,900 --> 09:04:01,260
building and I don't understand

16042
09:04:01,260 --> 09:04:03,500
why there's nothing being done

16043
09:04:03,500 --> 09:04:05,900
about it. It's empty and that's

16044
09:04:05,900 --> 09:04:08,900
a perfect space for advancing

16045
09:04:09,240 --> 09:04:12,240
the goal of affordable housing.

16046
09:04:13,300 --> 09:04:14,800
I mean it's got to be

16047
09:04:14,800 --> 09:04:15,160
affordable almost. Garris

16048
09:04:15,160 --> 09:04:17,220
whatever your bills I agree so

16049
09:04:17,220 --> 09:04:20,600
I mean I don't know who is I

16050
09:04:20,600 --> 09:04:21,300
don't know whose district

16051
09:04:21,300 --> 09:04:23,000
that's in I, I don't know but

16052
09:04:23,000 --> 09:04:24,190
what I do know is that

16053
09:04:24,190 --> 09:04:26,190
particular corner is open

16054
09:04:26,190 --> 09:04:27,180
whether it's owned by the

16055
09:04:27,180 --> 09:04:30,150
church or whether it's I don't

16056
09:04:30,150 --> 09:04:32,270
know but I'm going to ask every

16057
09:04:32,270 --> 09:04:35,170
person who knows about medgar

16058
09:04:35,170 --> 09:04:37,110
and the entrance to the 280

16059
09:04:37,110 --> 09:04:40,611
freeway to invest. I gave that

16060
09:04:41,900 --> 09:04:43,130
as a reason. Thank >> you,

16061
09:04:43,130 --> 09:04:47,213
milo. Hi. So I have a thought

16062
09:04:50,170 --> 09:04:51,250
experiment. I think it might

16063
09:04:51,250 --> 09:04:53,100
illuminate the conversation

16064
09:04:53,100 --> 09:04:55,120
tonight. Imagine you have two

16065
09:04:55,120 --> 09:04:58,120
really nice toys lego toys the

16066
09:04:58,120 --> 09:05:00,500
right next to each other. They

16067
09:05:00,500 --> 09:05:02,260
happen to be in los gatos. One

16068
09:05:02,260 --> 09:05:03,270
of the toys is made of what two

16069
09:05:03,270 --> 09:05:06,627
pieces you knock it down and

16070
09:05:07,240 --> 09:05:09,800
with the pieces you build for

16071
09:05:09,800 --> 09:05:12,800
smaller toys >> you think each

16072
09:05:12,220 --> 09:05:13,210
one of these toys they're still

16073
09:05:13,210 --> 09:05:15,400
really nice. We still

16074
09:05:15,400 --> 09:05:17,120
got those. Do you think each

16075
09:05:17,120 --> 09:05:19,200
one of these four smaller toys

16076
09:05:19,200 --> 09:05:21,500
is going to sell for the same

16077
09:05:21,500 --> 09:05:23,170
amount as the one really nice

16078
09:05:23,170 --> 09:05:26,200
toy right next to it that

16079
09:05:26,200 --> 09:05:27,200
wasn't knocked to pieces? This

16080
09:05:27,200 --> 09:05:28,120
sounds like it's on >> the same

16081
09:05:28,120 --> 09:05:29,180
topic we already talked about

16082
09:05:29,180 --> 09:05:31,160
last night earlier this doesn't

16083
09:05:31,160 --> 09:05:34,616
sound like a new topic price

16084
09:05:40,100 --> 09:05:42,230
hello. This is priced >>

16085
09:05:42,230 --> 09:05:45,230
at eight. >> okay. Okay so

16086
09:05:48,250 --> 09:05:50,800
my name is bryce. I own and

16087
09:05:50,800 --> 09:05:51,240
operate a gourmet mobile food

16088
09:05:51,240 --> 09:05:53,230
truck together with my mother.

16089
09:05:53,230 --> 09:05:55,700
the current rule that states a

16090
09:05:55,700 --> 09:05:56,270
food truck must move every 15

16091
09:05:56,270 --> 09:05:58,150
minutes does not match with

16092
09:05:58,150 --> 09:06:00,900
reality. It takes 20 minutes to

16093
09:06:00,900 --> 09:06:02,160
get set up to perform duties.

16094
09:06:02,160 --> 09:06:04,200
I'm asking council to delete or

16095
09:06:04,200 --> 09:06:06,500
>> amend this rule so I may

16096
09:06:06,500 --> 09:06:07,230
continue to perform my duties

16097
09:06:07,230 --> 09:06:09,280
and support my family. I have

16098
09:06:09,280 --> 09:06:11,220
received countless citations

16099
09:06:11,220 --> 09:06:13,170
and infractions which truly

16100
09:06:13,170 --> 09:06:16,180
boggles my mind because I am an

16101
09:06:16,180 --> 09:06:19,000
active member in my community

16102
09:06:19,000 --> 09:06:20,210
who works with many youth

16103
09:06:20,210 --> 09:06:22,100
groups, churches and

16104
09:06:22,100 --> 09:06:24,900
nonprofits. And I'm just asking

16105
09:06:24,900 --> 09:06:27,100
that we can either revise the

16106
09:06:27,100 --> 09:06:28,400
rules that have to do with

16107
09:06:28,400 --> 09:06:30,270
mobile vending. I'm willing to

16108
09:06:30,270 --> 09:06:32,170
come back next tuesday and as

16109
09:06:32,170 --> 09:06:34,400
long as it takes because you

16110
09:06:34,400 --> 09:06:35,900
know, we pay all of our fees.

16111
09:06:35,900 --> 09:06:38,500
we have every permit possible.

16112
09:06:38,500 --> 09:06:39,240
and I just I love stand part

16113
09:06:39,240 --> 09:06:40,170
of the community and I want to

16114
09:06:40,170 --> 09:06:42,500
continue. Thank you. >> thank

16115
09:06:42,500 --> 09:06:45,605
you. Back to council. I need

16116
09:06:49,250 --> 09:06:51,425
somebody to adjourn. >> all

16117
09:06:55,200 --> 09:06:57,700
right. Thanks, everybody. We're

16118
09:06:57,700 --> 09:06:59,000
adjourned. Have a great night

16119
09:06:59,000 --> 09:07:01,000
>>

16120
09:09:49,120 --> 09:09:51,120
. >>