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>> good evening. I'd like to call tonight's

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meeting of the san mateo planning commission to order.

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[pledge of allegiance].

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>> can we have rollcall, please.

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>> commissioner romaro.

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>> present.

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>> commissioner ellen mallory?

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>> present.

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>> chair, diane whitaker.

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>> here.

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>> thank you.

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on the consent calendar for this evening we

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have two sets of minutes. The first one is the march

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12th 2019 planning commission meeting, and then the

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second one is the march 26th 2019 planning commission

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meeting which that one we will be holding over to our

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next meeting on april 23rd but do I have any additions

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or corrections to the march 12th minutes? Nope? Okay.

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could I have a motion, please?

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>> I motion that we approve the minutes of

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the march planning commission meeting.

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>> a second?

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>> second.

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>> thank you. All those in favor say aye.

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>> aye.

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>> minutes are approved three zero.

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the next item is the public comment period,

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and this is the opportunity for anyone in the audience

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to address the commission on an item not on tonight's

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agenda. Do we have any speaker slips for the public

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comment period? The general? Nope. Okay.

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is there anyone in the audience who would

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like to address the commission on an item not on

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tonight's agenda? Seeing none we'll close the public

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comment period and move on to our study session tonight.

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this is a study session. There will be no

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vote, but we will be taking input and start with staff

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presentation.

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>> yes thank you, chair.

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so as you mentioned this meeting does serve

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dual purposes for this project tonight. This is the for

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the underground flow equalization system that is part of

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the clean water program that the council has adopted.

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so first of all tonight, the staff will be

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making a presentation regarding both the project and the

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draft eir that's now out for review. Following that

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presentation we will first take questions and comments

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on the project itself. And then following that we will

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take a look at the draft eir intake, and take comments

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from both the commission and the public on the draft

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eir.

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again, there is no decisionmaking tonight.

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this will come back to the planning commission and the

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council at a later time with a site plan review, special

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use permit and a site plan review application.

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the deadline for eir comments if you do not

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make comments on this tonight, you have until may 7th to

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provide written comments, and we'll take them by e-mail,

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and we also have in the lobby on the table at the entry

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there are some cards made up especially for taking

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comments on the draft eir. So we invite you to

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participate in that. And at this time I will turn this

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over to derrick for the presentation.

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>> thank you, richard.

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once again, my name is derrick and I'm the

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engineering manager with public works helping to assist

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with the clean water program. My presentation tonight, I

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will be presenting as well as tom williams our senior

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engineer, but this is our agenda. I'm going to be giving

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an overview of the clean water program, and tom will

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provide some updates specifically about the project,

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which is the underground flow equalization system and

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talk about the sequel process overview and discuss all

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the resource areas addressed in the draft environmental

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impact report and, as richard indicated, go through the

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planning commission to answer any questions related to

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the project of the presentation and lastly, receive

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formal comments on this document.

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so this is the why slide. Why are we here

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today, and why is the clean water program even here?

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whenever there is weather flows the sewer system gets

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inundated, and the capacity gets overwhelmed and the

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sewer overflows occur.

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on the image to the left there all those

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blue dots are either historical sso locations, active

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sso locations or model sso locations, and as a result of

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overflows they spew out of manholes. And this is

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essentially raw sewage, and it spills out on to the

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streets, into the gutters and into the creeks and

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affects our beaches.

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essentially, our san francisco bay and along

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every step of that sewer overflow all those components

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get contaminated. It's gotten to the point where we've

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had to close our beaches and also has gotten to the

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point where the regional quality control board has

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issued permits mandating the elimination and prevention

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of sanitary sewer overflows in our collection system and

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waste water treatment facility.

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because of both of those regulatory drivers

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the clean water program was established to replace the

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agent infrastructure and built a wet weather sewer

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system capacity to prevent these sewer overflows to meet

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current and future regulatory requirements and to align

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with the city of san mateo. And in 2016 the city council

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adopted and certified the environmental impact report,

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and at that same time the city council selected the in

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system storage approach which really culminates where we

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are today and the suggestion of the treatment system

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strategy and this component.

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the clean water program, it has multiple

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projects within it. This is a map of all the pipeline

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projects, and the dots indicate all the pump station

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improvements, and in the upper right where that yellow

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blotch is is the waste water treatment plant.

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multifaceted approach for this clean water

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program is to construct an underground equal flow

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project, and why is the underground project needed? It

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will minimize the cease and desist order to prevent

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sewer overflows and provide system capacity and

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performance and improve safety and reliability of the

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system and relieves discharge of sewage in the bay. And

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because of this selected program approach we don't have

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to build a treatment plant much larger than what it is

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currently being designed for. The fact that we are

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holding capacity upstream in the system with this

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project allows the size of the treatment plan to be much

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the imagery to the left here is at the

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intersection of saratoga and delaware and happens almost

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annually and has been mitigated through our field and

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maintenance crews helping to prevent that and through

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some flow management with our system right now and along

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with improvements in our sewage system that we're

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now, the impact report also identified 55

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sites for this facility, for this underground flow

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equalization facility, and these next slides take you

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through the history of how it was selected to be where

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it is today. 55 sites were in the impact report and from

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there it got shortlisted from 55 down to 12 down to six

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down to two to one and the green boxes on the right were

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criteria selection and shortlisted it down to six and

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from six all the way to one there were 31 meetings with

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various stakeholders including the city council, various

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commissions, various community meetings and neighborhood

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associations some of which are here today. And I

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august of 2016 is when we revealed the first

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six or at that time five locations, and then in january

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of 2017 it got shortlisted to the corp yard and event

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center. And at that point we did another alternatives

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analysis that looked at the economic, technical

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consideration and did a matrix to help provide

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information to the city council to make their decision

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on selecting the event center.

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and tom williams here is now going to talk

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>> good evening. Tom williams senior

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engineer with the public works clean water program.

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>> excuse me, can we have the microphone

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turned on, please.

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>> okay. Thank you. Tom williams senior

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so, this structure it's in the corner of the

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event center and it's underground. It's about five

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million gallons, 150 to about 200 feet. The way it

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in a rain event when the sewer has become

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overwhelmed the water begins to divert into the storage

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system, and that's part of a complex operation. It's not

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a key element. So the flow flows into the system, and it

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stays there about 24 hours, and then pumps pump it back

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into the system when the treatment can handle the flow,

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and it flows by gravity into the treatment plant. It has

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continuous odor control, and it also cleans itself

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automatically. When the flow subsides it has an

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automatic flush system that flushes it, and then it will

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get an inspection, and if it needs any additional

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cleaning then it will be done at that time.

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for maintenance purposes. We may need to hold some flow

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the surface is like the picture on the upper left.

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there will be an airtight hatch, an access hatch to the

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controls and pumps, and it will be flush with the

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surface of the ground, and there will be an electrical

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of diversion system that diverts flow to this.

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back a few slides to the layout real quick just to

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provide some context for this. The underground structure

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lines and force mains and the continuous odor structure

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delaware as well as saratoga and feed into the

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sound wall and a channel that separates saratoga from

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the fiesta gardens neighborhood, and to the south

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neighborhood and to the south there's the train tracks

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the contents are summarized here. We have the executive

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summary, the summary of the impacts and mitigation

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measures and introduction which includes the background

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objectives for the project and the description

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components, such as the underground structure, the

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pipes, electrical building, etcetera, and of course,

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maintenance construction aspects of this project.

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environmental resource areas addressed and of course,

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alternatives as well. In terms of the environmental

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this is all of them here. Out of all these, these can

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all be avoided through mitigation measures all with the

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exception of noise and vibration during construction.

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these next few slides are going to really

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highlight some of the comments and concerns that we've

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heard through the public since introducing this project

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in 2016, and also through the comments that we've

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received during the common period so far. One of the

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main concerns is odor control, as tom indicated. We will

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have air tight vaults, which is shown again there in the

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the carbon odor scrubbers, which is the

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all going to be in the vault. Under the surface is what

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these will be covered after we construct the

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facility. You will essentially see what the current use

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parking surface is the flushing curbs, the self-cleaning

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tipping buckets and part of the self cleaning mechanisms

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buckets tip, clean the facility, and reduce any odors

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in terms of the material being used it is

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highly efficient technology used throughout the

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industry, and these are carbon odor scrubbers, and they

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absorb large massive odors. And three grams of this

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stuff has a surface of a football field, and any odorous

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components stick to it and going back one slide, you can

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see that odor scrubber, that big tank there on the upper

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right, and instead of just three grams we're filling

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that whole thing up. It's going to be a lot of football

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fields that are going to be extracting that odor.

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in terms of construction, we understand that

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construction noise is an issue. These are images to help

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demonstrate what to expect during construction. In the

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bottom left there after excavating, walls will be up

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there and most of the excavation and construction for

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concrete pouring and rebar instillation, etcetera, will

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be drawn in that hole so the shoring walls and the fact

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that it's down in there will be a noise mitigation

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measure all in itself as opposed to constructing much

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taller sound walls. The elevation at which this

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construction will be occurring once it's excavated will

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help to mitigate some of that noise.

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the image to the top left shows almost a

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finished structure, and the image to the top right is

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sort of the finished product of this project. And this

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project is up in the seattle area and to the south here,

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hopefully I can show it here, where I'm highlighting now

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this is actually a daycare or preschool center and all

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these residential homes. So this has been built in

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similar types of scenarios to what we're trying to build

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here in san mateo.

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this image here is of a local bay area

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construction. This is in pacifica, and they are

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constructing a flow equalization system as well. And

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they have been in construction as you can see in the

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back there.

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there is a noise barrier along with a

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residential home, and so this is being built under their

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community center parking lot. After it's done they are

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going to re pave it, and it's going to be used all over

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again as a parking lot.

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another concern that has echoed through all

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the meetings that we've had is traffic impacts, and we

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are aware of them. We will be implementing a management

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plan and just to provide some background there are

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vehicle types that we're considering here, heavy trucks

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or other construction trucks, worker vehicles and in

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terms of construction it's going to be similar to

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construction in bay meadows and also at the hillsdale

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mall. And the management plan will be implemented, and

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some of the key components that have been listed out in

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the report to help mitigate to avoid peak traffic hours

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and coordinate with emergency responders.

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this image was also in the environmental

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impact report. The blue or light blue colored lines are

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the current city truck access routes, and these are the

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major arterials and major collectors within the city

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designated for construction traffic and truck routes.

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and the orange lines are the proposed access truck

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routes from the project site to those truck routes so

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primarily traveling to and from saratoga to either

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delaware or towards the freeway on the south.

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and in terms of geology the design team

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completed geotechnical investigations, and we're

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currently monitoring the area to establish base

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groundwater levels. And the intent is to mitigate

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measures to prevent settlement, and we have a plan to

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provide monitoring to make sure measures are taken and

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design criteria for the project itself.

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this slide is to illustrate the ceqa process

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and the permit process and also to identify the public

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input opportunities. In october of this past year we had

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a scoping period, which is shown there on the far left

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box. After that scoping period we received comments and

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prepared the draft environmental impact report and we

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released the report. And we are here tonight to receive

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more commentary, comments on the report, so that we can

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implement any measures into the report.

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in late summer after all the comments have

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been implemented and the eir has been revised we plan on

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releasing it. We will come back to the planning

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commission to get a recommendation or to request a

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recommendation on the eir certification and permit, and

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after that in october we plan on going to city council

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for the same two actions.

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these blue asterisks are for public input,

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and it started back in the scoping input and we're here

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tonight and there will be planning and city council

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opportunities again.

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so to echo what richard said in the

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beginning we're going to first take any questions

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related specifically to the project or presentation

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through and from the planning commission, and then

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secondarily or mainly the main goal for tonight is to

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obtain comments on the draft environmental impact

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report. And those could be submitted through verbal

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comments tonight. We have comment cards in the lobby as

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well as up front here where you could rip off a portion

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of the comment card and insert it into the drop box out

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front or you could share it with ryan up here. There's

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also the opportunity to e-mail or mail the comments in.

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thank you.

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>> thank you.

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does the commission have any questions of

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the staff presentation? No? No. Okay.

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I'm just going to start, and if it doesn't

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flow I'm really sorry.

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I was reading in the packet about potential

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contamination in the soil that will be brought up during

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excavation, and I wondered what type of contamination we

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were talking about?

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>> so again, I would just emphasize tonight

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we're taking comments, we'll respond to those in the

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finals. If there's a quick answer we'll give it.

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otherwise, we'll respond to those comments in the final.

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>> so I can go through and ask them one

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right after the other?

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>> sure and the consultant of the eir is

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here tonight, and we'll be preparing the final documents

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and questions raised tonight.

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>> I wonder what the agricultural district

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meant, if that particular area of land was considered

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agricultural because of the event center or what used to

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be there?

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>> the event center partial is zoned as

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agricultural mainly due to its history of being a

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racetrack.

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>> I wanted clarification of when the

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project would be starting. There were several parts of

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the packet that said 2019, and there were several parts

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in the packet that said 2020. So I just wanted to know

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what the plan was on that, and I wanted to know a

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definition of dewatering. I assume that relates to when

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you start digging down below sea level that there's

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leeching of water and how that -- am I correct in that

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assumption and then it's how it's pumped out?

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>> yes. Essentially dewatering is when we

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get below the groundwater table during excavation. This

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facility will go down as deep as 50 feet, and we will be

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running into groundwater levels and part of it to secure

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the site as to dewater it so we can construct the

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facility.

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>> where does it go?

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>> it will get pumped and essentially taken

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for treatment elsewhere.

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>> okay. So pumped out through our regular

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sewer system now?

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>> no, it would be through dewatering pumps

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specifically.

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>> into tanker trucks and then driven away?

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>> yes.

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>> okay. Is there a potential that any

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residents will need to be relocated?

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>> not to my knowledge.

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>> if you could explain to me what a

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piezometer is?

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>> it measures ground pressures.

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>> ground pressure?

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>> yes.

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>> okay.

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so it said in the packet that the daytime

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hours that construction was allowed was between 7:00 and

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7:00. Are there multiple shifts that go on during that

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time period or is there an eight-hour shift that happens

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some time during that time period?

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>> we haven't gotten to that level of detail

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for the construction contract yet, but we'll take that

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comment into consideration.

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>> so my question is, will there be

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construction activity from 7:00 a.m. To 7:00 p.m.?

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that's my question, ongoing? Have we ever used a hotline

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in the past on any projects here in the city?

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>> the hotline has been established since

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2015.

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>> so I'd like to know just the history of

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that, how many calls we get in a given month.

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>> oh, it fluctuates depending on the

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topics. For example, when we had to raise rates for

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sewers we got a lot of calls.

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>> okay.

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>> but when there's not much activity we

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don't get many calls.

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>> is it posted on our website?

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>> yes it's on the screen too. On the right.

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>> so that's the hotline to the call the

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clean water program?

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>> yes.

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>> okay. How do you notice when construction

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is going to incur on the weekend or does it just happen?

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>> any type of variance outside of monday

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through friday workdays would have to get approved, and

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then notifications would go out accordingly.

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>> how does that happen?

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>> through mailers, typically.

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>> does it go through e-mail or is it a hard

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copy?

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>> typically, for some of the projects in

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the collection system that we're doing right now we send

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out mailers and then follow up with door hangers.

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>> okay. Will the grade separation at 25th

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avenue be done before this project starts?

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>> I'm not familiar with the timeline of

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that project.

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>> my concern is, are we going to have a

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traffic impact from the grade separation at that exact

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point that we have traffic issues affecting delaware at

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25th with this project?

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there was a table under the traffic section

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that detailed 2005 conditions and then potential

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conditions from this project. I wondered if there were

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any other data points for later than 2005 because

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between 2005 and now things have really changed, and I

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wasn't confident in that data. It was table 16-4.

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on the native american requirements there

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was only a letter in the packet from a state department

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that just gave how things needed to work. It wasn't a

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response from an ohlone representative, and I just

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wondered if anyone from the ohlone people had responded

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personally to what was going on along the construction

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site? My concern with that would be that since it does

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have a close proximity to a creek bed that there could

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possibly be artifacts that we're going to dig up

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underground.

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those are my only comments or questions

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right now.

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>> alright. Thank you.

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>> thank you.

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>> I have a couple of questions. I

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understand that your construction time is from 7:00

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a.m. To 7:00 p.m.. How would that affect the flow of

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traffic from the neighborhood -- the traffic plant from

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the neighborhood residents and also for the school? Have

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you had conversations with the school and residents

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about when would be the best time to have construction

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vehicles on that street? I understand that saratoga is

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going to be the main point for the construction

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vehicles, and saratoga is the main street to go into the

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school and the residents.

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and also, if the goal was to have mailers or

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have door hangers on weekend construction, how would

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that affect the use of the neighborhood park where some

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of the events, sports events, are held on the weekend as

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well? Those are my two questions.

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>> thank you. Okay. I will open up the

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public comment period on this project, and I see we have

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speaker slips. How many?

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>> 12.

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>> 12, okay. We're going to be using the

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timer tonight so each speaker will have three minutes,

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and the secretary will call your name.

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>> bay meadows neighborhood alliance, kelly

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moran and jonathan shafferman.

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>> before we begin, we put in a request for

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a group presentation and the slip says that allows us

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fifteen minutes and we have planned for more than three

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minutes as our neighborhood presentation.

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>> okay we'll set the timer for 15, and I

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hope we won't take up all that time.

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>> jonathan is actually going to start, but

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I want to introduce the bay meadows neighborhood

518
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,400
alliance. We're 750 for homes, and we've got between

519
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,200
1,000 and 2,000 residents in the neighborhood alliance.

520
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,600
we did not have time to take a position

521
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,600
given the short notice, but we'll be submitting written

522
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,600
comments but we won't be indicating specific positions

523
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,600
on almost anything that we say tonight. We do request

524
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,600
additional time to review the design because the first

525
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:14,600
time we saw it was friday night. Jonathan is going to

526
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,600
start off with our main comments, and then I'll follow

527
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,600
up.

528
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,600
>> commissioners, I'm jonathan and I reside

529
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:29,200
at 490 east 28th avenue, and I am speaking on behalf of

530
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,600
the bay meadows neighborhood alliance and also as a

531
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,200
member of the landsdowne homeowners association.

532
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,600
our bay meadows neighborhood alliance has

533
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:46,400
been actively engaged for two years. Given the

534
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,600
extraordinary project cost many of us actually disagreed

535
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,600
with the city's conclusion that the five million gallon

536
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,600
sewer tank sized for flood overflows was a better

537
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,600
multigenerational solution than full conveyance which we

538
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,800
discussed in several community meetings, addressing the

539
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,600
antiquated storm sewer network from the top of the

540
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,600
watershed and not at the bottom down in the flatlands of

541
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,600
the city. We also expressed concern that placement in

542
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,600
either bay meadows park or fiesta gardens park would

543
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,600
affect park users in either area.

544
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,600
additionally, we remain unsettled with the

545
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,600
additional financial burden that our neighborhood will

546
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,600
shoulder from property assessments to service the bond

547
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,600
debt for the project. Many of our homes are within 50 to

548
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,600
several hundred feet from the project site visible from

549
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:47,600
some of the diagrams. Today my home is visible from

550
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,600
diagrams that were presented today.

551
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,600
and our concern is that the draft eir does

552
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,600
not adequately address impacts during the construction

553
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,600
and post construction project phases especially the

554
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,600
structural risk to our homes. Our primary concern is

555
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,600
soil stability in the areas surrounding both trunk line

556
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,600
and sewer tank excavations especially given the amount

557
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,600
of dewatering that will be necessary.

558
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,200
the draft eir indicates that groundwater

559
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,600
elevation is shallow here. It has yet to be determined

560
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:28,600
as was expressed earlier, but it has in the report

561
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,600
expected to be somewhere between six and no more than 15

562
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,600
feet below the surface along most of the site.

563
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:43,000
now this is a site where the sewer tank

564
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,600
structure will be 50 feet below the surface, and what

565
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,600
wasn't mentioned earlier is that in order to support

566
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,400
that heavy a structure an additional 25 feet of

567
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,600
excavation will need to go down to install the piles

568
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,600
that will hold up the sewer tank. That's 75 feet below

569
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,600
surface.

570
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,600
we in the neighborhood are aware of the

571
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,600
severe unexpected settling, and I believe it was in

572
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:16,400
excess of three foot unexpected settling that occurred

573
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,600
at the concar rite aid store during excavation and

574
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,600
dewatering for the adjacent projects at 40o and 450

575
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,600
concar. And want adequate assurance that our homes,

576
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,600
streets and the bay meadows park will not survey similar

577
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,600
fate.

578
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,600
we believe no open trench codes will be done

579
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,800
and that pipeline installation discussed in section 4.2

580
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,400
of the project geotechnical report should be mandatory.

581
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,600
furthermore, we ask that the project contract stipulate

582
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,600
that no settlement damage will be made to adjacent

583
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,800
structures especially pipeline trenching and sewer tank

584
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,400
excavation activities, and that the contractor take full

585
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,600
equivocal responsibility for any settlement damage that

586
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,600
occurs to private property or city facilities.

587
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,600
we're concerned with construction noise. In

588
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,400
fact, the eir concludes that significant and unavoidable

589
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,600
impact will occur during the twenty-five month

590
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,600
construction phase of the project.

591
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,200
table 5.5 indicates that pile driving will

592
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:37,600
result in a noise level at 50 feet, and this exceeds the

593
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:43,000
threshold outline in a section of san mateo manciple

594
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,800
code and furthermore, 7.2 of the geotechnical report

595
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,600
suggest that quote, drilled in place piles may be

596
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:59,600
considered if noise and vibration of pile driving is not

597
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,600
acceptable without defining acceptable to whom. We

598
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,400
assert herein equivocally that noise and vibration from

599
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,600
pile driving will be unacceptable from hour homes within

600
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,600
the construction area and pre drilling as opposed to

601
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,600
standard pile driving will be necessary to mitigate

602
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,600
noise impact to punch through the coarse, sandy layers

603
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,600
of soil that show up in your soil locks.

604
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,800
sandy soil is where piledrivers get stuck

605
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,400
trying to punch through stiff soil layers. Measure 12.3

606
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,600
inquired to incorporate project construction to help

607
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,600
reduce the effects of off-site vibration, and these are

608
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,200
vibration reducing methods that can quantifiably

609
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:02,400
demonstrate noise impacts, but we cannot find any

610
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,400
definition of vibration issues describing how they may

611
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,400
be mitigated. Mitigation 12.3.a. Only calls for site

612
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,600
specific mitigation measures for the project to be

613
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:23,600
implemented as necessary. We do not want to repeat the

614
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,600
experience.

615
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,600
>> thank you.

616
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,600
to follow up just in a bigger picture we're

617
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,600
used to construction. There's construction going on all

618
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,600
around bay meadows. This project is proposing different

619
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,200
techniques tremendously troubling to our neighborhood.

620
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,600
the city has never allowed a private developer to do

621
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:13,600
pile driver, the one that goes pound, pound, pound. We

622
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,600
hear that in san francisco. We have never let anyone

623
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,600
violate that ordinance.

624
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,600
second, the proposal to put in sheet piles

625
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,600
instead of the standard water system that is being used

626
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,600
by every other development. So every other development

627
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,600
is doing drilled in place piles and lagging and tie

628
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,600
backs. This is the only proposal that has tried to do

629
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,600
that is cal train.

630
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,800
there were residents running into the street

631
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,600
in the middle of the night when cal train did that and

632
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,600
that was 2,000 feet from homes, and this is less than

633
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,600
one hundred feet from the nearest home and third is the

634
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,600
depth and this is why we're concerned about the

635
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,600
dewatering and we understand there are other methods

636
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,600
that's would be drawing down a lot less water, a

637
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:13,000
pinpoint watering system and we suggest that the city

638
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,600
review these other techniques and we were shocked when

639
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,600
we opened the eir and found those disturbing precedents

640
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,600
in this project. Nothing had ever been said about that.

641
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,600
we know that having construction near our homes is going

642
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:35,600
to be a pain, but we don't want damage in our homes.

643
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,600
the other precedent here is about vibration.

644
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:44,600
the eir, you all get to set the significant standard and

645
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,600
that is no damage to buildings. So the right significant

646
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,600
standard should be ability to use ones' home and work in

647
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,600
ones' office nearby. So that's a lower vibration level.

648
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,600
the vibration that is being proposed almost

649
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,600
reaches but doesn't quite reach at the nearest house as

650
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,600
they predict the level that would cause damage to

651
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,600
buildings. It far exceeds the level that would prevent

652
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,600
normal use of ones' home. It would be like having a mini

653
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,600
earthquake going on. All the dishes would rattle in your

654
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:20,600
home.

655
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,600
for example, everything would rattle in your

656
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,600
office if you are working at home. That does not create

657
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,600
a condition that would be acceptable in my view for the

658
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,600
city and not a precedent we would want to set for

659
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,600
allowing private developers to do the same thing. I urge

660
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:38,600
you to define it as such. That sort of precedent could

661
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,600
not be accepted by the rest of the city.

662
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,600
we're also interested in preserving the use

663
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:50,000
of the parks. The eir admits that there's construction

664
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,600
next to both of the other city parks in the area so this

665
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,600
would be at the same time, construction next to the

666
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,600
city's largest park in this area. Here we'd be looking

667
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,600
for hours of construction to end to allow for that after

668
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,600
school soccer time and quiet time on weekends.

669
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,600
the staff informed you on the city

670
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,600
construction hours. Unless you establish requirements to

671
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,600
provide that kind of notification and self permitting

672
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,600
weekend system, that would not be by default a city

673
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,600
requirement.

674
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,600
there were e-mail notices sent and it kept

675
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,600
the construction to weekdays to allow us to use our

676
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,600
residences and gave us advanced notice so we could plan

677
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,600
our lives around that and not use the park space next to

678
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:37,600
them.

679
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,600
also, I think there's a very strong city

680
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,600
interest in preventing damage to homes and to prevent

681
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,600
unreasonable noise as precedents, and I think you all

682
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,600
really need to enforce that of staff. I don't think the

683
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,600
staff really want to do these things, but the

684
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,600
information in front of us and our experience which

685
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,600
should highlight the event center has been a really

686
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,600
great neighbor but they've been trying to handle how

687
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,600
they work out late night parties, and they've had a

688
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,600
private person running the sound system and the

689
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:16,400
vibration causes the exact same vibration I'm talking

690
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,600
about; dishes rattling during a concert, our whole homes

691
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,600
were rattling at night so every half an hour you'd wake

692
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,600
up, shake, shake, shake for five minutes. That's the

693
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,600
kind of stuff. It's just simply not acceptable for

694
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,600
members of our community and to have that go on for six

695
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:41,600
months, it's devastating to members of our community and

696
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,600
we do as a neighborhood -- it is our pattern to try to

697
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,600
work with people, and we are are interested in working

698
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,600
on this to find an acceptable solution.

699
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,600
I'm pretty confident if the city proposed

700
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,600
techniques and monitoring programs and did some work to

701
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,600
make sure that the park is useable on the weekends and

702
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,600
so forth, that our neighborhood would not oppose the

703
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,600
project, but I'm not 100% sure on that since we haven't

704
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,600
taken a position.

705
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,600
thank you for listening to our neighborhoods

706
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,600
concerns, and we're hoping by laying this more detailed

707
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,600
testimony in front of you that will make it easier for

708
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,600
both you and the other residents who have shared their

709
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,600
concerns to share their concerns with you. Thank you.

710
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,600
>> thank you. Now we're going to go to the

711
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,600
three minute clock and call the individual speakers,

712
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,600
please.

713
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,600
>> jean holbrook followed by joshua

714
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,600
wallstorm.

715
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,200
>> thank you, commissioners, for giving us

716
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:56,600
this opportunity. I am a member of the amelia members

717
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:03,200
association. I have sewage tank fatigue. I was at all of

718
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,600
those meetings, and I appreciate that the neighborhood

719
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,600
association and my neighbors are willing to persist on

720
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,600
this because we care very much about the quality of life

721
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,600
in our neighborhood.

722
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,600
both jonathan and kelly laid out the

723
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,600
details, but I just want to say as a member of the

724
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,600
community I'm concerned about continued use of the park

725
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,600
through the construction. It's not just used on weekends

726
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,600
by any means. We have soccer over there every day during

727
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,600
the soccer season and there are many families, children,

728
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,600
parents, dogs, that use that park on a regular basis

729
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,600
since that is our backyard.

730
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,600
I also am concerned about the noise and the

731
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,600
vibration. I thought I heard staff say we can mitigate

732
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,600
everything but noise and vibration which of course I

733
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,600
hope I misunderstood.

734
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:55,600
also I want to make sure that the

735
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,600
construction methods that are used do make it possible

736
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,600
for us to sleep and enjoy our homes. Bay meadows is a

737
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,600
wonderful community, and that's why we're all here

738
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,600
tonight. We want to preserve that. Thank you.

739
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,600
>> thank you.

740
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:16,400
>> hi. My name is joshua wallstorm, and I'm

741
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,600
a resident of bay meadows and also a member of the

742
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,400
landsdowne homeowners association, and I lived in bay

743
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,600
meadows, one of the first people to move in and of

744
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,600
course, I'm no stranger to construction and living with

745
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,600
construction noise but I just want to reiterate kelly

746
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:43,600
and johnathen's comments. I think they did a good job

747
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,600
expressing my concerns about the construction techniques

748
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,600
that are being used and whether they are appropriate and

749
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,600
safe and avoid damage to our homes and the surrounding

750
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,600
homes outside of bay meadows as well.

751
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,600
one comment that I'd like to state

752
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,600
specifically about about the noise mitigation, there was

753
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,600
a claim that due to the fact that most of the

754
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,600
construction is going to happen deep inside the tank

755
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:11,400
that's being constructed, that noise mitigation is not

756
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,600
as much of a concern, but there is that six month period

757
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,600
where they are going to be constructing and pile driving

758
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,600
and I would really urge the commission to require and

759
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,600
the city in fact to require that they erect a tall noise

760
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,600
barrier. Thank you.

761
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,600
>> thank you.

762
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,600
>> eranzi followed by ann mclaughlin.

763
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,600
>> good evening. Thank you for giving me the

764
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:46,400
opportunity to address my concern and rest for

765
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:54,200
assurance. I'm an owner of a house on 20th avenue and

766
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,600
I'm actually a member of the bright side hoa. The

767
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:05,600
environmental study that I saw has a lot of shortcoming

768
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,600
and I'm here to -- actually, I was here to try to get

769
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,600
some answers which I guess I'm not going to get this

770
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:17,600
evening.

771
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,600
my many concerns is actually about the noise

772
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:27,600
and the vibrations. So, we had the experience with the

773
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:36,200
cal train issues and we made the noise and well it

774
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:41,600
stopped but it was really, really bad. It was in the

775
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,600
middle of the night, two a.m. And I don't know how they

776
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,600
got to it and on the weekends it was really bad.

777
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:55,400
and my main concern is that the vibration

778
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,600
will weaken the foundations. In the event of an

779
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,600
earthquake and because of the foundations that got

780
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,600
weakened, if there's a damage to their houses, my house,

781
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:18,400
neighborhood houses, will we be compensated? Will the

782
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:27,000
city compensate us? Will the construction? That's a big

783
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:36,600
concern that I have. An earthquake can actually hit us

784
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,600
and I understand if it's a 10.0 it's not going to stand

785
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,600
usually, but maybe if it's weakened and it's a 4.0 it

786
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,600
may cause some issues.

787
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,600
and also since I work from home, most of the

788
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,600
days of the week I'd like to limit the noise and

789
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,600
definitely I'd like the noise just to be between nine

790
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:04,600
and five just like every other work and definitely not

791
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,600
on the weekends and nights.

792
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:14,000
and also, I wanted to ask if anybody thinks

793
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:19,600
about the contingency in case we have an overrun on the

794
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:24,400
budget for this construction because in my experience

795
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,600
everything runs over budget, actually.

796
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,600
well, thank you for listening to me. Thank

797
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,600
you.

798
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,600
>> thank you.

799
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,600
>> ann mclaughlin followed by vanessa

800
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,600
seawell.

801
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,600
>> hi. My name is ann mclaughlin and martin

802
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,600
and I are residents at bay meadows and members of the

803
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,600
bright side homeowners association. And we agree that

804
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,600
the environmental impact report has serious shortcomings

805
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,600
and also support the neighborhoods' requests that the

806
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:04,000
site change it's approach, and do not involve violation

807
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,600
of the city's noise ordinance. And we believe that

808
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,600
mitigation and several areas of the eir are both

809
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:20,600
imprecise and lacking include but are not limited to

810
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,600
noise abatement.

811
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,600
I was one of the residents who ran out in

812
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,600
the middle of the night in my pj's. The noise was

813
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,600
unacceptable and frightening.

814
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,600
the cal train project was more limited in

815
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,600
scope and duration than this proposed project. Only

816
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,600
after residents' complaints to cal train was it switched

817
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,600
to alternative methods and the impact of this projects

818
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,600
construction on local schools and parks and it is

819
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,600
unacceptable. A hotline is not mitigation, and the

820
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,800
proposed temporary barriers appear inadequate. I request

821
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,600
that any city official who has not experienced this type

822
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,600
of noise and vibration to sample it personally before

823
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:18,600
making a decision on this proposal. It is frightening.

824
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,600
second issue, dewatering impact 7-3, this

825
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,600
issue is also concerning without more information. The

826
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,600
risk of dewatering is called out in the report, and I

827
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:34,400
would also reference the millennial reflux. San mateo

828
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,600
says dewatering. This is from the san francisco

829
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,600
chronicle from an october 2016 article. This article

830
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,600
reports on the resulting litigation and potential

831
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,600
liability and the whole thing sounds like a mess.

832
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,600
as a homeowner I'm concerned about property

833
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,600
damage. As a san mateo taxpayer I'm concerned and

834
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,600
worried about the city leaving tax papers on the hook

835
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:04,400
for significant financial liability. We would like to

836
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:09,600
request a precise plan that fully addressed this risk

837
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,600
and adopts all reasonable measures to mitigate these

838
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,600
potential impacts.

839
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,200
traffic, this report estimates a significant

840
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,600
number of truck trips per day with estimates as high as

841
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,600
206 and the mitigation proposal of quote preparing a

842
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,600
traffic management plan is not mitigation. It proposes

843
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,600
no specific actions to address this significant

844
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,600
disruption. The proposed scheduling of this work

845
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,600
concurrently of the closure of the cal train station

846
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:48,600
promises to make a bad situation even worse. This eir

847
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:53,600
reinforces the poor site selection and planning for a

848
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,600
project in the middle of schools, parks and housing

849
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,600
areas, and I would urge this commission to reevaluate

850
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,600
this plan.

851
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:02,600
thank you very much.

852
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,600
>> thank you.

853
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,600
>> vanessa seawell.

854
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,600
>> hi, my name is vanessa seawell. I have

855
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,600
twin babies and a three year old. My biggest concern as

856
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,600
a mother is the noise vibration, the construction

857
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,600
process. My home is on saratoga drive, and I'm the

858
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,600
nearest home at bay meadows to this construction project

859
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,600
less than three hundred feet away.

860
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,600
the rite aid is about five hundred feet away

861
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,600
from recent construction that caused their structural

862
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,600
damage. So that is a large concern, and we've touched on

863
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:59,600
that. My biggest concern is the noise and pile driving.

864
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,600
I had my daughter, my first daughter and

865
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:08,400
next door the house was demolished and reconstructed

866
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,600
over the course of the next year. I was severely

867
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,600
affected by vibration, by sound that was constant over

868
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:22,600
that year, so much so that I was hospitalized for mental

869
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,600
health. This is not just something that can physically

870
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,600
affect hearing loss but mentally affect you.

871
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,600
I have three children that sleep in that

872
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,600
home everyday, and they take two naps a day. We're at

873
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,600
home with our kids, we're into the neighborhood walking

874
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,600
to the park every single day, and that's a large issue

875
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,600
if we're looking at something like over one hundred

876
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,600
decibels. That is a hundred times louder than the

877
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,600
eighty-five decibel mark that can cause hearing loss.

878
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,600
it's ridiculous and that cannot be acceptable.

879
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,600
further information or concern that I have

880
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,600
is with the dewatering process and I know that there are

881
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,600
better best practices to mitigate those issues that

882
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,600
could cause foundation and structural damage to our

883
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,600
homes and those need to be addressed. There's also -- I

884
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,600
don't believe the water would be trucked out of the area

885
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,600
if we're looking in excess of millions of gallons of

886
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,600
water during this construction period. We need to look

887
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,600
at recycling or recharging that water in the best

888
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:25,600
possible way, again, to limit problems with our

889
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,600
foundation.

890
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,600
I'm also concerned about vehicle traffic.

891
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,600
that is a large amount of noise specially because we

892
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,600
live on saratoga and several of my neighbors do as well.

893
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:41,600
we couldn't have four a.m., five a.m., six a.m. Trucks,

894
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:47,000
diesel, huge vehicles driving down our street waking us

895
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:52,600
up every morning for over six months. I have one year

896
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,600
old twins, newborns, I understand losing sleep but the

897
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,600
facts of these large vehicles roaring up and down the

898
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,600
street every day is not acceptable. So I do think we

899
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,600
need to have parameters of times of day in place for

900
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,600
construction and traffic. Thank you.

901
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,600
>> thank you.

902
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:49,000
>> just a couple of things to add. One is

903
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:52,600
around the traffic mitigation that hasn't been mentioned

904
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,600
around the construction of the new sewer pipelines along

905
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:59,000
saratoga drive. Given the extra traffic that is flowing

906
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:06,600
on saratoga due to the parking of the facebook and

907
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,600
google employees. I think you are going to see extra

908
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:19,600
traffic impacts and as the event center continues to

909
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,600
have more and more events you are seeing more and more

910
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,600
cars in the morning between six and seven a.m. Going to

911
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:32,600
set up. I think any taking away of lanes is going to

912
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,600
cause major issues and you are going to have to mitigate

913
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,600
through the event center and that could lead to other

914
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,600
impacts.

915
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,200
>> those need to be thought of an

916
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,100
alternative method. There are many

917
01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:25,200
considerations and I won't go over them

918
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,602
now. The vibrations of our homes

919
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,402
foundations and our values

920
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:44,100
again, I just ask that you hear us and

921
01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:48,201
I want to reiterate there are more

922
01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:54,100
appropriate and safer methods. That's

923
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:56,100
what's being proposed and I also want to

924
01:04:56,100 --> 01:05:00,100
remind this is a brand new high density

925
01:05:00,100 --> 01:05:02,100
neighborhood. This is not an industrial

926
01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:03,100
commercial zone. Thank you.

927
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:05,100
>> thank you.

928
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:08,100
>> ray lynn.

929
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,100
public speaker: hi, I'm a resident of

930
01:05:16,100 --> 01:05:20,100
bay meadows and also a member of the

931
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:23,601
homeowners association. I share the same

932
01:05:24,100 --> 01:05:25,100
concerns with my neighbors. In addition

933
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:26,100
I

934
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:28,100
have two questions and I wonder if the

935
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:30,100
council can help with. My first question

936
01:05:30,100 --> 01:05:33,601
is regarding the environmental impact on

937
01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:39,100
the natural lives in the parks of the

938
01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:42,100
birds. During spring there is a lot of

939
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:44,100
birds migrating into this area. I wonder

940
01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:47,100
if the team has evaluated the potential

941
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:49,100
environmental impact on these natural

942
01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:50,100
lives.

943
01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:51,100
second question is regarding the

944
01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:54,601
selection of the exact location. So

945
01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:59,100
there are other spots in the san mateo

946
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:00,100
area. The proposed area is adjacent to

947
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:02,100
the park and also very close to the

948
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:03,100
residential area. So I just wonder if

949
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:05,100
the

950
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:07,100
team has evaluated other spots in the

951
01:06:07,100 --> 01:06:09,100
san

952
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:18,100
mateo area. One wish that I wish for

953
01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:22,801
council to help is that we didn't get

954
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:26,100
this environmental impact report until

955
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:30,100
very late lasts week. So that makes it

956
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:33,100
very challenging to have a thorough

957
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:35,100
review and provide comment during this

958
01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:36,100
short period. We would appreciate more

959
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:39,100
time for review in order to have more

960
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:40,100
constructive and meaning full feedback

961
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:41,100
to

962
01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:45,100
the council in the future. So that's why

963
01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:47,100
I'm especially preview of today's

964
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:49,100
opportunity that we can be here to share

965
01:06:49,100 --> 01:06:52,100
our thoughts with this council. I hope

966
01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:53,100
the council can keep the spirit and

967
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:54,100
we'll

968
01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:57,601
have a very open and transparent

969
01:06:58,100 --> 01:06:59,100
democratic process throughout this

970
01:06:59,100 --> 01:07:02,100
project. Thank you very much.

971
01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:04,100
>> thank you.

972
01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:12,100
>>clerk: jennifer mcadam.

973
01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:15,100
public speaker: hi, there, I would like

974
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:17,100
to thank the commission for the

975
01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:18,100
opportunity to speak. I'm a member of

976
01:07:18,100 --> 01:07:20,100
the

977
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:24,601
homeowners associations and I live along

978
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:27,100
13th avenue. I share some of these

979
01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:28,100
comments regarding the short

980
01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:30,100
accommodations regarding the

981
01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:35,100
environmental impact report, and agree

982
01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:40,100
with my neighbors. I work from home and

983
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:45,401
I'm very sensitive to noise and I run a

984
01:07:46,100 --> 01:07:47,100
lot of meetings. I'm mostly concerned

985
01:07:47,100 --> 01:07:50,601
about the foundation and the vibration

986
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:53,100
issues that it could have on my home.

987
01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:57,100
therefore I request that the city will

988
01:07:57,100 --> 01:07:59,100
change the construction approach and may

989
01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:03,100
not involve the violation of the cities

990
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:05,100
ordinance. In addition I would like the

991
01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:08,100
commission to add a wall barrier during

992
01:08:08,100 --> 01:08:10,100
the noise construction and consider

993
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:11,100
limiting the construction hours so we

994
01:08:11,100 --> 01:08:13,100
may

995
01:08:13,100 --> 01:08:14,100
have some peaceful days where we are

996
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:16,100
living. Thank you.

997
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:19,100
>> thank you.

998
01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:25,100
>>clerk: wendy?

999
01:08:25,100 --> 01:08:29,801
public speaker: I'm wendy, I have a home

1000
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:32,100
in the meadows. I would like to support

1001
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:35,601
all the concerns that bay meadows

1002
01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:39,100
alliance has brought up. I think our

1003
01:08:39,100 --> 01:08:41,100
homes is like, it's our sanctuary, it's

1004
01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:46,100
where we go home and relax and all of

1005
01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:47,100
that stuff. The parks in our

1006
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:48,100
neighborhood

1007
01:08:48,100 --> 01:08:49,100
are really important to us. So the use

1008
01:08:49,100 --> 01:08:51,100
of

1009
01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:55,100
that should be somewhat of a priority.

1010
01:08:55,100 --> 01:08:56,100
the noise and vibration, I also work

1011
01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:57,100
from

1012
01:08:57,100 --> 01:09:01,801
home. I would like you all to empathize

1013
01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:05,601
with homeowners there. Living there has

1014
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:07,100
been great. We love our neighborhood,

1015
01:09:07,100 --> 01:09:08,100
but

1016
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:09,100
if this is going to go on for 6 months

1017
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:11,100
at

1018
01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:15,100
a time, it's really going to impact

1019
01:09:15,100 --> 01:09:19,201
everyone there. My husband would like to

1020
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:25,100
add.

1021
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:30,200
>> I live with her. A couple things I

1022
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:34,200
will add. I don't know if you read the

1023
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,202
recent new york times. There was a

1024
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:43,200
couple that bought a couple brown stones

1025
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,200
and they have been driving into the

1026
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,200
foundation for months and it's driving

1027
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:51,202
every mad and the local didn't realize

1028
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:53,200
that was happening. So there are a lot

1029
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,200
of

1030
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:57,200
unintended consequences to these kinds

1031
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,200
of

1032
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,200
decisions that people have to live with.

1033
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,200
unfortunately those that made the

1034
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,200
decisions don't have to live with it.

1035
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,200
the people around it do. Many of us are

1036
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:10,200
always involved in planning large

1037
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,200
projects. The plan that we have in place

1038
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:16,200
is the most optimistic view. There is

1039
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,200
never a plan that actually happens the

1040
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,602
way it is planned. Everything always,

1041
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,200
something always goes wrong. The fact

1042
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:30,802
that we are this most optimistic view is

1043
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,200
already quite horrifying if you live in

1044
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,200
the neighborhood should give everyone

1045
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,200
pause. It can get worse and it likely

1046
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,200
will get worse, but if we already feel

1047
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:45,200
this way of what the optimal view looks

1048
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:49,200
like, that scares me. So I echo

1049
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,200
everything that everyone here has been

1050
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:51,200
saying. I look forward to having a

1051
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,200
better

1052
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,200
dialogue of where this goes after this.

1053
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,200
thanks.

1054
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,200
>> thank you.

1055
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,200
>>clerk: claire?

1056
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,200
public speaker: good evening,

1057
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,200
commissioners and staff. My name is

1058
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,602
claire and president of the homeowners

1059
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,200
association's and I thank you for your

1060
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:22,200
time today and thank you for your hard

1061
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,200
work to listen to us. I really

1062
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,200
appreciate

1063
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:30,200
it. I have a couple of concerns and

1064
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:31,200
first is vibrating and it's impacting

1065
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:32,200
the

1066
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:33,200
homes in our neighborhood. We've all

1067
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,200
seen

1068
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,200
issues with structure integrity can

1069
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,602
actually cause things like windows and

1070
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,200
wall cracks and even foundation at

1071
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,200
issues. These are expensive problems. My

1072
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,200
questions are what is the staff as plan,

1073
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,602
mitigation plan for these issues which

1074
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,200
are expensive to repair, and do we have

1075
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:05,200
a

1076
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,200
fund set aside to pay for potential

1077
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:07,200
damages for private property and homes.

1078
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,200
we've all heard about the leaning power

1079
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,602
of san francisco caused by transbay

1080
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,200
construction. We don't want to be known

1081
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,200
as the leaning homes in san mateo. That

1082
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:20,200
is not ideal for all of us. So my

1083
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:21,200
question is, have you considered

1084
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,200
alternative construction methods? The

1085
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,200
current proposed message is the

1086
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,200
polydriven method. How did we reach this

1087
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,602
conclusion? Is it the cheapest method,

1088
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,200
have you thought about it damaging other

1089
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:38,200
homes. Why is there no report in the

1090
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,200
eir.

1091
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:41,200
is there a way that we can actually do

1092
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,200
an

1093
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,200
analysis and an alternative construction

1094
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,200
method. I also want to echo a point that

1095
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:53,200
a neighbor brought up earlier which is

1096
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:57,202
impact to wildlife. In san mateo, we

1097
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:01,200
have wildlife birds that pass through

1098
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:02,200
the

1099
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,200
parks. Have we thought about the

1100
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,200
wildlife that pass through the parks. I

1101
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,200
thank you for your time and effort on

1102
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:08,200
this project. I hope we can work

1103
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,200
together

1104
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:11,200
to get to a good conclusion for

1105
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,200
everyone.

1106
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,200
>> thank you.

1107
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,602
>> sally chang followed by lauren lee.

1108
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,200
public speaker: hi, I'm sally chang.

1109
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:32,202
thank you for letting us speak tonight.

1110
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:39,200
I'm a property owner and I live near the

1111
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:40,200
proposed construction and also part of

1112
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,402
the lands down association.

1113
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:44,200
we just moved into this neighborhood

1114
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,200
last

1115
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:47,200
year and we specifically moved out of

1116
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:48,200
san

1117
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,200
francisco where there is a lot of

1118
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:51,200
construction because we wanted to live

1119
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:52,200
in

1120
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:53,200
a place where we could raise children

1121
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,200
and

1122
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,200
we could have like a quiet neighborhood,

1123
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:04,402
a beautiful park to live next to, and to

1124
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:11,402
just have a peaceful home to go home to.

1125
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,200
we are planning on starting our family

1126
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,200
this coming year, and the fact that this

1127
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,200
construction has really loud methods of

1128
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,402
construction for 6 months really

1129
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,200
terrifies me. As a mother going

1130
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:37,200
through this, it's a really scare

1131
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,200
process

1132
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:41,200
at some point having construction

1133
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:42,200
between

1134
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:43,200
the hours of 7:00 a.m. And 7:00 p.m.

1135
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,200
that

1136
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:50,200
makes it even more terrifying. I agree

1137
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,200
with a lot that has been said so far by

1138
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,200
the members of the community, and I

1139
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,200
strongly urge the city and commission to

1140
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,200
really think of alternative methods of

1141
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,200
construction because it just really

1142
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:06,200
affects the livelihoods of many people

1143
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,200
--

1144
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,200
who are here to speak today and it

1145
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:15,202
affects lives of people who are working,

1146
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,200
people who have families, children,

1147
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,200
animals, everyone in our community.

1148
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:21,200
thank you.

1149
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,602
>>clerk: lauren lee, followed by simon

1150
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:28,200
yun.

1151
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,602
public speaker: good evening. Thank you

1152
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,200
so much to the commission for the

1153
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:38,200
opportunity for all the of us to speak

1154
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:39,200
here.

1155
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:43,202
I'm lauren lee, and I live at 2868

1156
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,602
saratoga drive. From east 28th in

1157
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,200
saratoga. Just close to my neighbor with

1158
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,200
vanessa. She was here with three kids. I

1159
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,200
have four kids and three of them being

1160
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,200
boys. We moved from pleasanton. We were

1161
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:03,200
the first building to go up and we were

1162
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,200
there before anything came to bay

1163
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,202
meadows. And bay meadows park is our

1164
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,200
backyard. We left pleasanton and bay

1165
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:18,802
meadows is our backyard and we need it

1166
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,200
desperately especially with the boys. I

1167
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,802
want to agree with all of my neighbors

1168
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:27,200
and community members here that are

1169
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,200
present that you take a closer look at

1170
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:34,200
some of the plans and consider just the

1171
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:38,200
impact that it has in our neighborhood.

1172
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:39,200
thank you.

1173
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,200
>> thank you.

1174
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:43,200
>>clerk: simon yun followed by eric

1175
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,200
park.

1176
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:46,200
public speaker: good evening, I want to

1177
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,200
say thank you to the commission for what

1178
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:49,200
you are doing and the time you are

1179
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,200
taking

1180
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,200
to look into it. We really appreciate

1181
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,200
it.

1182
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:54,200
my name is simon yun, a homeowner in

1183
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,200
the

1184
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,200
land down hoa, also part of bay meadows.

1185
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:09,200
I thank you for listening to our

1186
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,200
concerns

1187
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,200
and I want to speak to again the noise

1188
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,200
and the vibration. When I think of the

1189
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,200
substance of our concerns have been

1190
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:20,200
addressed already. I just want to paint

1191
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:21,200
a

1192
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,602
picture of what this looks like.

1193
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:31,200
my bedroom faces bay meadows park so

1194
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,200
there is going to be nothing between us

1195
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,200
and the construction going on. The issue

1196
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,200
with noise and particularly concerning

1197
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,200
are going to be imagine that maybe you

1198
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,200
work at home and you are trying to work

1199
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:44,200
during the day but there is power

1200
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,200
driving

1201
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,802
going on. It's not going to affect only

1202
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,200
the conferences that you have going on

1203
01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:00,200
and you have to get work done and it may

1204
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:01,200
not be easy to get work done because

1205
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,200
it's

1206
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:08,802
harder to focus and maybe you lose sleep

1207
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:13,802
and you get woken up in the morning

1208
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,200
because of this. I think this is

1209
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:19,200
something we should avoid if we can. The

1210
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,200
other thing is I have two young children

1211
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:22,200
anther in school now fortunately and

1212
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,200
they

1213
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,200
are pretty good at sleeping, but I think

1214
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:27,200
any parent knows the difference between

1215
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,200
a

1216
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:33,200
well rested child and a child on sleep

1217
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,200
debt in terms of their ability to focus

1218
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:37,200
and learn. I'm concerned about the

1219
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:38,200
impact

1220
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:42,202
that losing sleep is having on them

1221
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:44,200
especially after the power driving

1222
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,602
situation. The other thing is vibration,

1223
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:54,402
and I think as residents of the bay area

1224
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,200
we are cognizant of risks we have with

1225
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,200
earthquakes, but I don't think when we

1226
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,200
are buying property we as much think

1227
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,200
about human caused risks to our

1228
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,200
properties, structural risks to our

1229
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:10,200
properties caused by construction

1230
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:11,200
especially when there may be

1231
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:12,200
alternatives

1232
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,200
that are safer for our structures. I ask

1233
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,200
that you please consider that. Thanks

1234
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,200
for your time.

1235
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:23,202
>> thank you. Eric park followed by tom

1236
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,200
t.

1237
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,200
public speaker: as everyone else has

1238
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:30,200
said, thank you, commissioners, for

1239
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,200
taking the time to listen to our

1240
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,602
comments. I'm also with bay meadows

1241
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,200
homeowners association. I agree with the

1242
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,200
points made by the previous speakers. 2

1243
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,200
points that I would like to reiterate, I

1244
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,200
would like to say that bay meadows in

1245
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,200
particular is a neighborhood of young

1246
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,200
families. I have a six-year-old and

1247
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,200
almost all houses near mine have houses

1248
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:58,202
with families and near the schools. And

1249
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,200
we have many people that work from home

1250
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:06,200
and this is one of the demographics that

1251
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:07,200
will be impacted by work. I have

1252
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,200
concerns

1253
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,000
about noise, pollution and noise on

1254
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,100
families. I would like you to consider

1255
01:20:16,100 --> 01:20:18,100
the request made by all the speakers

1256
01:20:18,100 --> 01:20:20,100
today. Thank you.

1257
01:20:21,100 --> 01:20:24,601
>> tom t followed by dana stuart.

1258
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:30,100
public speaker: hello, my name is tom

1259
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:33,100
chi. I have been part of bay meadows

1260
01:20:33,100 --> 01:20:36,100
since 2015. Thank you, commission, for

1261
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:46,201
allowing us to participate. I will keep

1262
01:20:47,100 --> 01:20:51,100
it short. I absolutely continue to echo

1263
01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:52,100
a lot of points that have been made and

1264
01:20:52,100 --> 01:20:54,100
I

1265
01:20:57,100 --> 01:21:01,100
can underscore what this allows us to do

1266
01:21:01,100 --> 01:21:04,100
except to engage in participation. A

1267
01:21:04,100 --> 01:21:07,100
couple of additional points. When we go

1268
01:21:07,100 --> 01:21:10,100
through all the construction, it's

1269
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:13,100
absolutely understandable and expected,

1270
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:16,100
right? People didn't move into a new

1271
01:21:16,100 --> 01:21:19,601
development expecting that you get peace

1272
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:22,100
and quiet immediately. However, what I

1273
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:26,100
do always noticed is that regardless of

1274
01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:28,100
the methods, while construction is

1275
01:21:28,100 --> 01:21:31,100
happening, the folks that are in it, the

1276
01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:34,601
workers, they have got gear protecting

1277
01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:42,201
eyes, ears, mouths, nose. When a mere

1278
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:48,100
25-100 feet, however many feet away, we

1279
01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:49,100
are as residents experiencing much of

1280
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:51,100
the

1281
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:54,100
similar impacts without any of that

1282
01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:56,100
protection. So that is just another

1283
01:21:56,100 --> 01:22:00,100
perspective on what we talk about in

1284
01:22:00,100 --> 01:22:03,601
terms fof noise concerns and vibration

1285
01:22:09,100 --> 01:22:13,100
concerns. It matters a lot when we have

1286
01:22:13,100 --> 01:22:16,100
an expectation when we can have some

1287
01:22:16,100 --> 01:22:19,100
level of normalcy. But there is too much

1288
01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:20,100
x factor in the air, you know, perhaps

1289
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:22,100
on

1290
01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:25,100
that day, not all the time and you want

1291
01:22:25,100 --> 01:22:31,100
to go back inside, but there is a lot of

1292
01:22:31,100 --> 01:22:34,100
impact there. Lastly, I would like to

1293
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:38,801
just call in the question as we move

1294
01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:40,100
forward, let's, I would really love to

1295
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:42,100
be

1296
01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:47,201
able to review information that helps us

1297
01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:50,100
validate decisions made progressively

1298
01:22:50,100 --> 01:22:53,100
with regard to the cost and what the

1299
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:55,100
solution is such that as conditions

1300
01:22:55,100 --> 01:22:57,100
change, we allow ourselves the

1301
01:22:57,100 --> 01:22:59,100
flexibility. So what I would definitely

1302
01:22:59,100 --> 01:23:00,100
appreciate is that a ton of hard work

1303
01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:02,100
has

1304
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:05,100
already gone into this over a long

1305
01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:07,100
period

1306
01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:12,100
of time. But every week, month that

1307
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:16,201
passes and we have these large scale

1308
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:20,601
projects, that it allows for flexibility

1309
01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:23,100
to approach solutions and what solutions

1310
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:26,601
are best or matter most. Thanks.

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01:23:37,100 --> 01:23:38,100
>>clerk: dana stuart.

1312
01:23:38,100 --> 01:23:40,100
public speaker: thank you, commissioner

1313
01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:42,100
for allowing me to speak tonight. My

1314
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:46,100
name is dana story. The ceo of the san

1315
01:23:46,100 --> 01:23:48,100
mateo county event center. I would like

1316
01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:52,100
to thank the city staff that I have

1317
01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:53,100
directly worked through with this

1318
01:23:53,100 --> 01:23:56,100
process. And I would like us to note the

1319
01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:58,100
designation of the agricultural

1320
01:23:58,100 --> 01:24:02,201
designation of the land. The san mateo

1321
01:24:09,100 --> 01:24:11,100
exposition and fair has dealt with san

1322
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:15,801
mateo for the last 70 years. We are not

1323
01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:18,100
the oldest host facility, but the oldest

1324
01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:21,100
neighbors in the area. We also and I

1325
01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:22,100
think it's an important designation

1326
01:24:22,100 --> 01:24:23,100
under

1327
01:24:23,100 --> 01:24:24,100
the department of california food and

1328
01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:25,100
ag,

1329
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:29,100
we are among the network of california

1330
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:31,100
fairs and we are also the designated

1331
01:24:31,100 --> 01:24:33,100
office of emergency management resource

1332
01:24:33,100 --> 01:24:34,100
for the entire county and in the event

1333
01:24:34,100 --> 01:24:36,100
of

1334
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:39,601
a natural disaster. We are self

1335
01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:42,100
supporting 501c3. All of the receive

1336
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:46,801
that we operate on the land comes from

1337
01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:50,100
activities on the property. We are too

1338
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:52,100
concerned about noise constraints. We

1339
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:53,100
host everything from holiday parties

1340
01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:56,100
which you have heard from the neighbors

1341
01:24:56,100 --> 01:24:59,100
that can be somewhat disruptive

1342
01:25:00,100 --> 01:25:03,100
unfortunately to academic testings to

1343
01:25:04,100 --> 01:25:06,100
sony, high profile corporate events. We

1344
01:25:06,100 --> 01:25:07,100
also strive to be a really good

1345
01:25:07,100 --> 01:25:09,100
neighbor.

1346
01:25:09,100 --> 01:25:13,201
so specifically in relative to the event

1347
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:16,100
that ms. Moran mentioned, one with the

1348
01:25:16,100 --> 01:25:19,601
issue of vibrations, that was a $200,000

1349
01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:26,100
per event of the event center. Because

1350
01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:30,100
they weren't able to comply with the

1351
01:25:30,100 --> 01:25:33,601
request for the reverberation made, this

1352
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:38,801
is a san mateo corporation that put on

1353
01:25:39,100 --> 01:25:41,100
this event, they were asked not to come

1354
01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:43,100
back and that's because of our alliance

1355
01:25:43,100 --> 01:25:46,100
with the neighborhood. We are important

1356
01:25:46,100 --> 01:25:49,100
as a self supporting organization that

1357
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:52,601
noise doesn't override our ability to

1358
01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:55,100
sustain that self sustainability and we

1359
01:25:55,100 --> 01:25:59,100
don't drive away our clients and we look

1360
01:25:59,100 --> 01:26:01,100
forward to working with city staff so

1361
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:04,100
that doesn't happen. So such as

1362
01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:06,100
construction time, noise, process, our

1363
01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:07,100
buildings are old and not angered. We

1364
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:09,100
are

1365
01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:13,100
working through an eir with county

1366
01:26:13,100 --> 01:26:15,100
council to achieve our best outcomes. We

1367
01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:16,100
look forward to continuing to work with

1368
01:26:16,100 --> 01:26:19,100
the community and the neighbors and the

1369
01:26:19,100 --> 01:26:22,100
city and hosting the project and looking

1370
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:24,100
for developing as many positive outcomes

1371
01:26:24,100 --> 01:26:28,100
as we can along the way knowing that I'm

1372
01:26:28,100 --> 01:26:30,100
also a citizen of the city of san mateo

1373
01:26:30,100 --> 01:26:34,801
to work together to get to outcomes to

1374
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:50,201
develop and minimize the noise in san

1375
01:26:56,100 --> 01:26:57,100
mateo.

1376
01:26:57,100 --> 01:26:59,100
public speaker: thank you, jonathan, I'm

1377
01:26:59,100 --> 01:27:01,100
speaking on behalf of myself and my

1378
01:27:01,100 --> 01:27:06,100
family on this add on comment. I want to

1379
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:08,100
discuss pedestrian, public safety and

1380
01:27:08,100 --> 01:27:10,401
pedestrian and bicycle safety

1381
01:27:11,100 --> 01:27:14,100
specifically. Both on saratoga during

1382
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:22,100
the construction period, but also the

1383
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:26,801
city have a safer walking route for the

1384
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:31,100
safe bus commuters and to the centers

1385
01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:34,601
from the parking lot during the

1386
01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:36,100
construction. Saratoga is going to be

1387
01:27:36,100 --> 01:27:39,601
less welcoming at best and quite

1388
01:27:41,100 --> 01:27:44,601
dangerous at worse. Both pedestrians and

1389
01:27:46,100 --> 01:27:47,100
bicyclist during the construction

1390
01:27:47,100 --> 01:27:48,100
period.

1391
01:27:48,100 --> 01:27:50,100
a suggestion that the city study and

1392
01:27:50,100 --> 01:27:52,100
potentially coordinate with the event

1393
01:27:52,100 --> 01:27:56,100
center and the county to provide a

1394
01:27:56,100 --> 01:28:00,100
pedestrian gate from bay meadows park to

1395
01:28:00,100 --> 01:28:02,100
the event center parking lot and that

1396
01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:05,601
suggestion would be at an appropriate

1397
01:28:08,100 --> 01:28:10,100
location where pedestrian safety and

1398
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:12,100
bicycle safety can be taken into account

1399
01:28:12,100 --> 01:28:13,100
perhaps closer to nuevo school. Thank

1400
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:15,100
you.

1401
01:28:28,100 --> 01:28:29,100
>>clerk: lily wu.

1402
01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:33,801
public speaker: hi, my name is lily wu.

1403
01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:37,601
>> please speak closer to the mic.

1404
01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:41,100
>> I would like to thank you for giving

1405
01:28:41,100 --> 01:28:42,100
us the opportunity to let you know how

1406
01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:44,100
we

1407
01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:48,100
feel. I live near with my children. I

1408
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:51,601
represent my family and the community.

1409
01:28:59,100 --> 01:29:02,100
my concern mainly is the foundation or

1410
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:03,100
the process and method of their trying

1411
01:29:03,100 --> 01:29:05,100
to

1412
01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:08,100
build the sewage tank. The reason for

1413
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:09,100
that is already, I understand there is

1414
01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:12,100
already the way it is proposed right now

1415
01:29:12,100 --> 01:29:13,100
it could have some very possible

1416
01:29:13,100 --> 01:29:15,100
damages,

1417
01:29:17,100 --> 01:29:19,100
and I'm thinking, you know, in san

1418
01:29:19,100 --> 01:29:23,100
francisco, we have the problem with the

1419
01:29:23,100 --> 01:29:26,100
leaning building and then later on with

1420
01:29:26,100 --> 01:29:29,100
the bus terminal area. We are very

1421
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:30,100
concerned about problems with

1422
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:31,100
foundations

1423
01:29:31,100 --> 01:29:32,100
because the foundation is most important

1424
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:36,801
to a building. And that is expensive in

1425
01:29:42,100 --> 01:29:44,100
the area and even to live in the area,

1426
01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:47,100
and if there is a problem affecting the

1427
01:29:47,100 --> 01:29:49,100
residents, I think is a lot of stress

1428
01:29:49,100 --> 01:29:51,100
because in our bay meadows neighborhood,

1429
01:29:51,100 --> 01:29:53,100
I think a lot of people are very

1430
01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:55,100
hardworking and a lot of money is going

1431
01:29:55,100 --> 01:29:56,100
into the residents but they work hard

1432
01:29:56,100 --> 01:29:58,100
for

1433
01:29:58,100 --> 01:30:00,100
that, and if something happens, how will

1434
01:30:00,100 --> 01:30:04,801
they be able to handle the damages and

1435
01:30:05,100 --> 01:30:08,601
the recuperate. Which could be coming

1436
01:30:13,100 --> 01:30:17,100
back to the city. So I would recommend

1437
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:20,100
instead of going forward, with

1438
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:27,100
the problems, take the preventative

1439
01:30:27,100 --> 01:30:30,100
method. If there is a problem, then

1440
01:30:30,100 --> 01:30:35,401
later it might be worse. If you are not

1441
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:44,100
able to prevent the damages, maybe look

1442
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:47,100
at it in a different way. And for the

1443
01:30:47,100 --> 01:30:51,201
people that are also of working class,

1444
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:54,100
and to do well, if there is a lot of

1445
01:30:54,100 --> 01:30:57,100
noise, that is going to affect the

1446
01:30:57,100 --> 01:31:01,201
performance. I think my main concern is

1447
01:31:06,100 --> 01:31:11,100
that I don't think this is an ideal area

1448
01:31:11,100 --> 01:31:13,100
to have a sewage tank. I don't know if

1449
01:31:13,100 --> 01:31:17,801
it's too late to consider, or as was

1450
01:31:18,100 --> 01:31:19,100
suggested earlier, there is a location

1451
01:31:19,100 --> 01:31:21,100
in

1452
01:31:22,100 --> 01:31:25,100
the park that can serve the area better.

1453
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:27,100
I really worry about it for everyone in

1454
01:31:27,100 --> 01:31:29,401
that area. Thank you.

1455
01:31:36,100 --> 01:31:38,100
public speaker: thank you for the

1456
01:31:38,100 --> 01:31:40,100
opportunity to speak as an individual.

1457
01:31:40,100 --> 01:31:42,100
I'm here representing myself and my

1458
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:43,100
husband markle yot who was too sick to

1459
01:31:43,100 --> 01:31:45,100
be

1460
01:31:46,100 --> 01:31:50,801
here tonight. We are members of the land

1461
01:31:51,100 --> 01:31:53,100
homeowners associations association. I

1462
01:31:53,100 --> 01:31:54,100
want to mention there are numerous

1463
01:31:54,100 --> 01:31:56,100
errors

1464
01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:00,100
in the eir and I will send those

1465
01:32:00,100 --> 01:32:02,100
comments

1466
01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:05,100
to you. And I want to mention that

1467
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:08,100
delaware is set to open when it would

1468
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:10,100
start and 25th would close and traffic

1469
01:32:10,100 --> 01:32:13,100
would be very difficult and the same for

1470
01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:15,100
pedestrian and bicycle situation through

1471
01:32:15,100 --> 01:32:16,100
the construction area. Finally, I would

1472
01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:20,100
like to point you to design comments I

1473
01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:24,100
have sent via e-mail. I will not take

1474
01:32:24,100 --> 01:32:25,100
time to repeat those here but I'm

1475
01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:27,100
assuming

1476
01:32:31,100 --> 01:32:33,100
you will get that. And I would like to

1477
01:32:33,100 --> 01:32:37,100
thank you for being here. It's also an

1478
01:32:37,100 --> 01:32:39,000
opportunity to get things on course when

1479
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:41,100
they seem off course in the community.

1480
01:32:41,100 --> 01:32:43,100
you have that opportunity tonight. Thank

1481
01:32:43,100 --> 01:32:45,100
you.

1482
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,200
public speaker: hello, my name is mike

1483
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,200
brat. I live on 10th street which is 150

1484
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:58,200
feet from where this tank is proposed to

1485
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:03,200
go in. What is I find amazing is that I

1486
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:04,200
was up here when bay meadows phase 1

1487
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:06,200
came

1488
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,200
in and I said, look, one of the big

1489
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:13,200
things is the sewage capacity. It barely

1490
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:17,200
meets what we have. You need to increase

1491
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:23,200
it. No no no. When phase two came in, we

1492
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,200
said, it a big problem. And you said, no

1493
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:34,200
no no, we are going to have more coming

1494
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,200
in, are you goes to increase capacity?

1495
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:40,200
no no, we are going to build a storage

1496
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:41,200
tank. Well for 25 years with all of

1497
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:42,200
these

1498
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,200
developments we have been going over the

1499
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:48,202
same stuff over and over again, sewer,

1500
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:53,200
noise, vibration. Honestly, the

1501
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:56,200
neighborhood is done. You have

1502
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,200
surrounded us with development that is

1503
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,200
just inundating our lives with nothing

1504
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:04,200
that is redeeming. I take it back. I

1505
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:07,200
like bay meadows, both phase 1 and phase

1506
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,200
2, they beat the expectation that I had

1507
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:13,200
for them. I enjoy walking through them

1508
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,200
and I enjoy it every single day every

1509
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,200
weekend. I apologize for my comment.

1510
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,200
however, the noise and all of the

1511
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:24,200
construction impacts of those two

1512
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,200
developments, and everything that's gone

1513
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:28,200
on around us has taken our quality of

1514
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:32,802
life and made it very stressful. My wife

1515
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:34,200
is a two time cancer survivor. Her

1516
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,200
cancer

1517
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:40,802
came on about a year after saratoga was

1518
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:42,200
done. I sustained $5,000 worth of

1519
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:45,200
personal damage to the outside of my

1520
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,602
house because of the fungal infection

1521
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:52,200
that came from the air born stuff that

1522
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:56,200
they tore off from saratoga. I asked for

1523
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:57,200
it to be paid for, no, no, no, I

1524
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,200
couldn't

1525
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:07,200
prove it. I had proof, but it didn't

1526
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:09,200
matter. But I'm here watching this and

1527
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:12,200
hearing all the concerns which I 100%

1528
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,200
appreciate all of the research that they

1529
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:18,200
have done. I hope it doesn't fall on

1530
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,200
deaf ears having lived through all this,

1531
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:22,200
having been told everything is going to

1532
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:26,200
be fine and then you find out it's not

1533
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:30,202
fine. But it's already in process and

1534
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,200
the impacts are horrendous. Listen to

1535
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:42,202
their comments because they are going to

1536
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:46,602
be impacted like when theirs was

1537
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:55,200
developed. Thank you.

1538
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:58,200
>> I have no more speaker slips.

1539
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:02,202
>> okay, is there anyone else in the

1540
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:04,200
audience that would like to come forward

1541
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,200
and make some comments to the planning

1542
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,200
commission? You can fill out the yellow

1543
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,200
slip afterwards if need be.

1544
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:18,200
>> james yang.

1545
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,200
public speaker: thank you for the

1546
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,200
opportunity to speak. My name is james

1547
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:25,200
yang. I'm a resident of bay meadows, my

1548
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:26,200
wife and I are and a member of the

1549
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:28,200
meadow

1550
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:33,202
walks and the bay meadows alliance and

1551
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,200
the meadow walk homeowners associations.

1552
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:39,200
I don't want to reiterate too much of

1553
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:41,200
what my neighbors have been saying. I

1554
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:44,200
have absolutely agreed with most of the

1555
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:47,200
comments here tonight, and most of the

1556
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:50,602
bay meadows residents have come to

1557
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,200
understand that the sewage tank is a

1558
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:57,802
result or I guess it's a solution for

1559
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:01,200
waters that's overflow that's coming

1560
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:02,200
from

1561
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:03,200
pipes that are damaged up and through

1562
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:05,200
the

1563
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,200
hills and it's a result of rain and not

1564
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,602
really a result of increased population.

1565
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:15,202
we've come to understand that this is

1566
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:20,202
necessary. The residents are a group of

1567
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:34,200
public minding and decent citizens. I

1568
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:38,802
would add that if we allow for potential

1569
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:42,200
property damage or additional noise,

1570
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:44,200
it's

1571
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:47,200
really adding injury to insult. It's

1572
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:50,200
adding an additional layer of things for

1573
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,200
residents who have already come to

1574
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:54,200
understand the need for something like

1575
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,200
this and come to accept it and actually

1576
01:37:56,200 --> 01:38:00,200
be open to it. So I just wanted to add

1577
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,200
that. Thank you.

1578
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,200
>> thank you.

1579
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:16,200
>> anyone else? Okay, we'll close the

1580
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:18,200
public comment period. So continue or

1581
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:22,802
take a short break? Okay. Are you okay?

1582
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:27,200
okay.

1583
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:28,200
so were there any questions or issues

1584
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,200
that the public brought up that we can

1585
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:33,402
provide additional information tonight?

1586
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:50,200
>> I would like to introduce heather,

1587
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,200
she

1588
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:55,200
prepared the environmental impact

1589
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:56,200
report.

1590
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:59,200
>> I would like to address the public

1591
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,200
comments. The public comments will be

1592
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:04,200
considered and considered against the

1593
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:05,200
evaluation that was conducted for the

1594
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:06,200
eir

1595
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:10,200
and formal responses will be made in a

1596
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,200
final document and again, as derek

1597
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:17,200
indicated, we are expecting that to be

1598
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,200
sometime in the fall. But I did want to

1599
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,200
address a few things that the

1600
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:22,200
commissioners brought up. I believe the

1601
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:25,200
agricultural question that you had was

1602
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:26,200
addressed, but if you have additional

1603
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:27,200
questions, we can go over that. There

1604
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:29,200
was

1605
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:30,200
some concern about the contamination or

1606
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:32,200
a

1607
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:33,200
question about the contamination and

1608
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:34,200
there is a phase 1 site assessment in

1609
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,200
the

1610
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,200
report. I don't want to quote from it

1611
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,200
because I don't have it in front of me,

1612
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:45,802
but I would start there and review that,

1613
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:50,200
and we can of course come back with full

1614
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,602
quick summary on the contamination that

1615
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,200
was determined not necessarily, there

1616
01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:00,200
were not soil samples that I understand,

1617
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:01,200
but again, I don't want to quote from

1618
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:03,200
the

1619
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,000
report.

1620
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:10,100
>> excuse me, is it in this report?

1621
01:40:10,100 --> 01:40:11,100
>> yes, the first part of the report

1622
01:40:11,100 --> 01:40:13,100
that

1623
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:17,100
summarizes the phase 1 assessment and

1624
01:40:18,100 --> 01:40:21,100
there were errors on the phase 1 on the

1625
01:40:21,100 --> 01:40:22,100
thumb drive.

1626
01:40:22,100 --> 01:40:23,100
>> I don't have a thumb drive.

1627
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:27,100
>> I'm sorry, I thought a thumb drive of

1628
01:40:27,100 --> 01:40:30,601
the reports was provided to the

1629
01:40:31,100 --> 01:40:34,100
commissioners? Either way, we can get

1630
01:40:34,100 --> 01:40:38,201
the report. It's on the website also.

1631
01:40:39,100 --> 01:40:43,100
the full eir and the attachments are on

1632
01:40:43,100 --> 01:40:45,100
the website for this attachment.

1633
01:40:45,100 --> 01:40:47,100
>> you gave it a name where the

1634
01:40:47,100 --> 01:40:48,100
contamination was?

1635
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:50,401
>> a phase 1 site assessment.

1636
01:40:52,100 --> 01:40:55,601
>> phase one, thank you. So derek

1637
01:41:07,100 --> 01:41:10,100
provided a quick explanation of the

1638
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:12,100
dewatering. If you have any questions on

1639
01:41:12,100 --> 01:41:15,100
that, I'm happy to provide an

1640
01:41:15,100 --> 01:41:18,601
explanation. He also responded to your

1641
01:41:28,100 --> 01:41:32,201
question of what a pedo meter is.

1642
01:41:37,100 --> 01:41:40,100
and a question about dewatering and a

1643
01:41:40,100 --> 01:41:43,100
question about dewatering to our

1644
01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:47,100
waterways. That method has not been

1645
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:50,100
determined. It can also be removed via

1646
01:41:50,100 --> 01:41:54,100
truck. The method by dewatering has not

1647
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:57,100
been determined. Regardless of the

1648
01:41:57,100 --> 01:41:59,100
method, the contractor will be required

1649
01:41:59,100 --> 01:42:02,601
to follow state requirements from the

1650
01:42:03,100 --> 01:42:06,100
regional quality control board and the

1651
01:42:06,100 --> 01:42:10,100
city of san mateo. The city has

1652
01:42:10,100 --> 01:42:11,100
requirements on disposing water as well

1653
01:42:11,100 --> 01:42:13,401
through their municipal code.

1654
01:42:14,100 --> 01:42:15,100
I believe derek responded to the

1655
01:42:15,100 --> 01:42:17,100
hotline,

1656
01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:20,100
we have received comments about the eir

1657
01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:23,100
via the hotline, the prime use of the

1658
01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:26,601
hotline again was during the 2018 rates

1659
01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:32,100
which I was not involved with and I

1660
01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:34,100
don't

1661
01:42:34,100 --> 01:42:36,100
want to necessarily get into that

1662
01:42:36,100 --> 01:42:37,100
discussion.

1663
01:42:37,100 --> 01:42:38,100
the hours of construction were

1664
01:42:38,100 --> 01:42:40,100
addressed,

1665
01:42:41,100 --> 01:42:42,100
the municipal code does have

1666
01:42:42,100 --> 01:42:44,100
construction

1667
01:42:48,100 --> 01:42:49,100
limitations, construction hour

1668
01:42:49,100 --> 01:42:51,100
limitations and currently the

1669
01:42:51,100 --> 01:42:52,100
construction is planned to be within

1670
01:42:52,100 --> 01:42:55,100
those limited hours. I can't tell you

1671
01:42:55,100 --> 01:42:57,100
specifically if they are going to arrive

1672
01:42:57,100 --> 01:43:01,100
at 7:00 a.m. And leave at 7:00 p.m.. But

1673
01:43:01,100 --> 01:43:03,100
I'm currently, the construction is

1674
01:43:03,100 --> 01:43:04,100
planned to occur within those time

1675
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:06,100
limits

1676
01:43:07,100 --> 01:43:08,100
established by the cities municipal

1677
01:43:08,100 --> 01:43:10,100
code.

1678
01:43:16,100 --> 01:43:19,601
and there was a question about

1679
01:43:22,100 --> 01:43:23,100
consultation with native-american

1680
01:43:23,100 --> 01:43:26,100
heritage commission. We did follow the

1681
01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:27,100
requirements established by assembly

1682
01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:29,100
bill

1683
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:34,100
52 and there is a state consultation

1684
01:43:34,100 --> 01:43:36,100
with

1685
01:43:36,100 --> 01:43:38,100
tribes and letters and phone calls were

1686
01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:39,100
made and there were no tribes in the

1687
01:43:39,100 --> 01:43:41,100
area

1688
01:43:42,100 --> 01:43:43,100
that requested consultation. We did

1689
01:43:43,100 --> 01:43:46,100
receive one letter from the heritage

1690
01:43:46,100 --> 01:43:47,100
commission on the draft eir and that

1691
01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:48,100
will

1692
01:43:48,100 --> 01:43:49,100
be addressed through the mechanism of

1693
01:43:49,100 --> 01:43:51,100
the

1694
01:43:52,100 --> 01:43:54,100
final eir. That I think addresses the

1695
01:43:54,100 --> 01:43:58,201
bulk of the questions that you had.

1696
01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:07,100
>> I don't know if tonight is the night

1697
01:44:07,100 --> 01:44:09,100
to answer, but there is a question about

1698
01:44:09,100 --> 01:44:12,100
the table in the eir and talk about a

1699
01:44:12,100 --> 01:44:13,100
traffic study.

1700
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:14,100
>> I'm sorry, you are right. That is a

1701
01:44:14,100 --> 01:44:17,100
question that I will have to research a

1702
01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:19,100
little bit further. I know that when the

1703
01:44:19,100 --> 01:44:23,100
eir was prepared, we did not have recent

1704
01:44:23,100 --> 01:44:25,100
date accounts on the roadways in the

1705
01:44:25,100 --> 01:44:27,100
area. So we used the materials that were

1706
01:44:27,100 --> 01:44:29,100
available. So I will have to go back and

1707
01:44:29,100 --> 01:44:33,100
take a look at that at that table to see

1708
01:44:33,100 --> 01:44:37,100
if we have updated counts and could

1709
01:44:37,100 --> 01:44:38,100
possibly update that analysis.

1710
01:44:38,100 --> 01:44:42,801
>> could I just ask of staff when the

1711
01:44:44,100 --> 01:44:45,100
station park green development went in,

1712
01:44:45,100 --> 01:44:47,100
I

1713
01:44:48,100 --> 01:44:52,201
assumed there was traffic data for that

1714
01:44:53,100 --> 01:44:54,100
area, right?

1715
01:44:54,100 --> 01:44:56,100
>> yes, but as you recall when station

1716
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:58,100
park green went through the development

1717
01:44:58,100 --> 01:45:01,601
review process, it was during the

1718
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:05,100
recession. So the traffic counts were

1719
01:45:05,100 --> 01:45:06,100
low.

1720
01:45:06,100 --> 01:45:07,100
>> what year was it?

1721
01:45:07,100 --> 01:45:10,100
>> it was probably around (2) 011-2012.

1722
01:45:13,100 --> 01:45:16,100
those were more current. It just jumped

1723
01:45:16,100 --> 01:45:20,100
out to me that it was 14 years old. And

1724
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:22,100
in response to comments, we can update

1725
01:45:22,100 --> 01:45:25,100
the traffic counts in terms of what is

1726
01:45:25,100 --> 01:45:26,100
actually occurring on the ground. So

1727
01:45:26,100 --> 01:45:28,100
most

1728
01:45:45,100 --> 01:45:48,601
of the conversation tonight has been

1729
01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:52,100
about the draft environmental impact

1730
01:45:52,100 --> 01:45:54,100
report. The eir document, but we as a

1731
01:45:54,100 --> 01:45:56,100
planning commission can talk about the

1732
01:45:56,100 --> 01:46:00,201
design. I'm wondering if you have given

1733
01:46:01,100 --> 01:46:04,100
any thought to that or have comments or

1734
01:46:04,100 --> 01:46:05,100
questions?

1735
01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:07,100
>> I have a question for staff. In your

1736
01:46:07,100 --> 01:46:10,100
report you indicated there is a project

1737
01:46:10,100 --> 01:46:13,100
being done at the pacifica community

1738
01:46:13,100 --> 01:46:16,100
center. What methods are they using to

1739
01:46:16,100 --> 01:46:17,100
construct their project. Also on the

1740
01:46:17,100 --> 01:46:18,100
page

1741
01:46:18,100 --> 01:46:22,801
that you showed us, there was also a

1742
01:46:24,100 --> 01:46:27,601
sound barrier constructed as well. What

1743
01:46:28,100 --> 01:46:31,601
sound levels were shared with those

1744
01:46:35,100 --> 01:46:36,100
residents?

1745
01:46:36,100 --> 01:46:38,100
>> I don't have the construction. I only

1746
01:46:38,100 --> 01:46:42,100
have the photos that I shared and that's

1747
01:46:42,100 --> 01:46:44,100
the detail that I know.

1748
01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:45,100
>> any other comment?

1749
01:46:45,100 --> 01:46:48,100
>> I can make a comment on the design. I

1750
01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:52,201
guess I should go back. It's very

1751
01:46:55,100 --> 01:46:57,100
difficult, we got the information on

1752
01:46:57,100 --> 01:47:00,100
thursday. I know some of the residents

1753
01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:03,100
commented that they got it on friday.

1754
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:07,100
it's not a long time to look at large

1755
01:47:07,100 --> 01:47:09,100
amounts of data. I feel very fortunate

1756
01:47:09,100 --> 01:47:11,100
that I was around on the public works

1757
01:47:11,100 --> 01:47:14,100
commission when this whole project was

1758
01:47:14,100 --> 01:47:15,100
being discussed and being developed and

1759
01:47:15,100 --> 01:47:19,100
we saw a lot of stuff from the seattle

1760
01:47:19,100 --> 01:47:23,801
trip that you all went on and got

1761
01:47:25,100 --> 01:47:26,100
information, real life information from

1762
01:47:26,100 --> 01:47:30,100
cities that were going through it. So,

1763
01:47:30,100 --> 01:47:36,100
this is an awful lot to take in over 4-5

1764
01:47:37,100 --> 01:47:40,100
days. So, I think it would have been

1765
01:47:40,100 --> 01:47:43,100
helpful to have a presentation on this,

1766
01:47:43,100 --> 01:47:45,100
just presentation only to the planning

1767
01:47:45,100 --> 01:47:48,100
commission to sort of give some

1768
01:47:48,100 --> 01:47:52,201
background that would make it a lot

1769
01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:56,100
easier for us to analyze what's in the

1770
01:47:56,100 --> 01:47:57,100
eir based on the thought process that

1771
01:47:57,100 --> 01:47:58,100
was

1772
01:47:58,100 --> 01:48:00,100
gone through to develop the program

1773
01:48:00,100 --> 01:48:04,201
because it was a very detailed process,

1774
01:48:05,100 --> 01:48:09,201
and it's very beneficial to have that

1775
01:48:18,100 --> 01:48:22,100
process. I looked through the plans of

1776
01:48:22,100 --> 01:48:26,801
the building and the bay meadows is a

1777
01:48:28,100 --> 01:48:29,100
very appealing community, and it would

1778
01:48:29,100 --> 01:48:31,100
be

1779
01:48:32,100 --> 01:48:34,100
great if the building can look like the

1780
01:48:34,100 --> 01:48:38,100
houses in the area rather than the brick

1781
01:48:38,100 --> 01:48:40,100
so it blends more with the surrounding.

1782
01:48:40,100 --> 01:48:45,100
but that would be my only comment on the

1783
01:48:45,100 --> 01:48:48,601
structures because I admit, I wasn't

1784
01:48:50,100 --> 01:48:53,100
aware we were discussing the actual

1785
01:48:53,100 --> 01:48:56,100
aesthetic of the building. So I did take

1786
01:48:56,100 --> 01:48:57,100
a quick look, but it's only a quick

1787
01:48:57,100 --> 01:48:59,100
look.

1788
01:49:08,100 --> 01:49:11,100
>> so I have a few questions that relate

1789
01:49:11,100 --> 01:49:15,100
to other aspects of the project beside

1790
01:49:15,100 --> 01:49:17,100
the environmental document. There is

1791
01:49:17,100 --> 01:49:20,601
fencing proposed along saratoga and the

1792
01:49:21,100 --> 01:49:24,100
adjoining property line with the bay

1793
01:49:24,100 --> 01:49:28,201
meadows park. The documents we have say

1794
01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:36,401
-- is it an 8 or 6-foot. An 8-foot fence

1795
01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:44,100
and concrete wall. I think we can

1796
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:47,100
provide direction as to which we would

1797
01:49:47,100 --> 01:49:51,201
prefer. Whether we prefer a metal, or

1798
01:49:56,100 --> 01:49:57,100
even wood.

1799
01:49:57,100 --> 01:49:59,100
>> through the chair if I can make a

1800
01:49:59,100 --> 01:50:03,100
comment. Right now the city and the

1801
01:50:03,100 --> 01:50:07,100
county and also the events that are in

1802
01:50:07,100 --> 01:50:08,100
negotiations on the screening material

1803
01:50:08,100 --> 01:50:12,100
whether it's going to be a cme wall or a

1804
01:50:12,100 --> 01:50:15,100
fence. That will most likely be part of

1805
01:50:15,100 --> 01:50:18,100
the easement negotiation that's being

1806
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:21,100
taken now.

1807
01:50:21,100 --> 01:50:24,601
>> so, the planning commission can still

1808
01:50:32,100 --> 01:50:33,100
provide their preference and I don't

1809
01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:34,100
know

1810
01:50:34,100 --> 01:50:36,100
what will come of that at the moment.

1811
01:50:36,100 --> 01:50:38,100
>> okay, any preference?

1812
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:52,100
>> not metal.

1813
01:50:52,100 --> 01:50:54,100
>> my comments is that what we have on

1814
01:50:54,100 --> 01:50:58,201
the other side of saratoga, and that

1815
01:51:00,100 --> 01:51:03,100
until the landscaping has reached a

1816
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:04,100
certain maturity, it's going to feel

1817
01:51:04,100 --> 01:51:05,100
like

1818
01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:06,100
you are driving down the freeway with

1819
01:51:06,100 --> 01:51:07,100
two

1820
01:51:07,100 --> 01:51:11,100
sound walls. That was my comment there.

1821
01:51:11,100 --> 01:51:12,100
also this site plan had a location of

1822
01:51:12,100 --> 01:51:14,100
the

1823
01:51:17,100 --> 01:51:20,100
air exhaust. It was labeled as 16 inches

1824
01:51:20,100 --> 01:51:23,601
diameter and 10 feet tall and it's

1825
01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:30,601
located fairly adjacent to the sidewalk,

1826
01:51:31,100 --> 01:51:34,601
the public sidewalk. Is there any

1827
01:51:35,100 --> 01:51:38,100
latitude as to where that air exhaust

1828
01:51:38,100 --> 01:51:41,100
people can be located? Perhaps further

1829
01:51:41,100 --> 01:51:43,100
away from the public right-of-way?

1830
01:51:43,100 --> 01:51:45,100
>> we'll have to work with the engineer

1831
01:51:45,100 --> 01:51:49,201
of design and determine if that is

1832
01:51:50,100 --> 01:51:51,100
feasible.

1833
01:51:51,100 --> 01:51:55,801
>> and is there only one of those air

1834
01:51:57,100 --> 01:51:58,100
exhaust?

1835
01:51:58,100 --> 01:52:00,100
>> from my recollection of the plans and

1836
01:52:00,100 --> 01:52:01,100
I don't have it in front of me right

1837
01:52:01,100 --> 01:52:02,100
now,

1838
01:52:02,100 --> 01:52:03,100
I believe there should only be one.

1839
01:52:03,100 --> 01:52:07,201
>> okay. And then it was indicated that

1840
01:52:16,100 --> 01:52:19,100
there would be many at grade hatches. Do

1841
01:52:19,100 --> 01:52:22,100
we have how many of those. I know you

1842
01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:24,100
showed them in your presentation.

1843
01:52:24,100 --> 01:52:28,201
>> not at the moment. We are currently

1844
01:52:34,100 --> 01:52:37,100
passed 60% design and optimizing the

1845
01:52:37,100 --> 01:52:39,401
location of those vaults.

1846
01:52:41,100 --> 01:52:44,601
>> one of the public comment letters

1847
01:52:52,100 --> 01:52:55,100
posed the question about if there was a

1848
01:52:55,100 --> 01:52:56,100
spare the air, would construction

1849
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:58,100
proceed

1850
01:52:59,100 --> 01:53:00,100
as normal or would construction recede

1851
01:53:00,100 --> 01:53:02,100
at

1852
01:53:13,100 --> 01:53:14,100
that time?

1853
01:53:14,100 --> 01:53:16,100
>> I don't have a response for that, but

1854
01:53:16,100 --> 01:53:19,100
we can take that into consideration.

1855
01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:22,100
>> okay, and the staff report talked

1856
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:26,201
about as many as 200 vehicle trips per

1857
01:53:27,100 --> 01:53:30,601
day during the construction period. How

1858
01:53:31,100 --> 01:53:33,100
do we get a number that high and what

1859
01:53:33,100 --> 01:53:37,801
would the majority of them be the reason

1860
01:53:38,100 --> 01:53:39,100
for?

1861
01:53:39,100 --> 01:53:42,100
>> I would have to call in heather for

1862
01:53:42,100 --> 01:53:45,100
this. She has the number. There is a

1863
01:53:45,100 --> 01:53:46,100
separation of truck trips associated

1864
01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:48,100
with

1865
01:53:48,100 --> 01:53:49,100
the underground structure and truck

1866
01:53:49,100 --> 01:53:51,100
trips

1867
01:53:51,100 --> 01:53:52,100
associated with the pipeline

1868
01:53:52,100 --> 01:53:53,100
construction

1869
01:53:53,100 --> 01:53:56,100
that total the numbers that you stated.

1870
01:53:56,100 --> 01:53:59,100
>> right, the estimators for the

1871
01:54:04,100 --> 01:54:06,100
project and designers, we did our best

1872
01:54:06,100 --> 01:54:09,100
assessment of the type of construction,

1873
01:54:09,100 --> 01:54:10,100
the duration of construction, and the

1874
01:54:10,100 --> 01:54:11,100
types of equipment that would be

1875
01:54:11,100 --> 01:54:13,100
required

1876
01:54:16,100 --> 01:54:19,100
to not only build the holding structure

1877
01:54:19,100 --> 01:54:21,100
and the associated facilities but also

1878
01:54:21,100 --> 01:54:24,100
the pipeline. So the peak daily, we

1879
01:54:24,100 --> 01:54:27,100
don't have an average for each of the

1880
01:54:27,100 --> 01:54:28,100
different elements, but rather we

1881
01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:32,801
analyzed what is going to be the worse

1882
01:54:35,100 --> 01:54:38,100
case scenario on any given day but this

1883
01:54:38,100 --> 01:54:41,100
is maximum that would occur on any given

1884
01:54:41,100 --> 01:54:44,100
day. We estimated a total of 100 truck

1885
01:54:44,100 --> 01:54:48,201
trips and that would mean haul trucks,

1886
01:54:50,100 --> 01:54:53,100
bringing or removing, bringing equipment

1887
01:54:53,100 --> 01:54:56,601
and supplies or removing excavated soil.

1888
01:54:57,100 --> 01:54:59,100
for the holding structure and we are

1889
01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:01,100
expecting approximately 30 workers on

1890
01:55:01,100 --> 01:55:04,100
site. So we estimated a total of 60

1891
01:55:04,100 --> 01:55:05,100
truck trips for those 30 workers. A

1892
01:55:05,100 --> 01:55:07,100
truck

1893
01:55:08,100 --> 01:55:13,100
trip is one trip in and one trip out. 30

1894
01:55:13,100 --> 01:55:14,100
workers would generate 30 work trips,

1895
01:55:14,100 --> 01:55:16,100
one

1896
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:18,100
in and one out.

1897
01:55:18,100 --> 01:55:19,100
the pipeline construction we are

1898
01:55:19,100 --> 01:55:22,100
expecting a peak of 30 heavy truck trips

1899
01:55:22,100 --> 01:55:26,100
per day, and 8 workers on a daily basis

1900
01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:27,100
for a total of 16 truck trips per day

1901
01:55:27,100 --> 01:55:29,100
for

1902
01:55:32,100 --> 01:55:36,100
a combined total of 206 truck trips or

1903
01:55:36,100 --> 01:55:39,100
206 trips on a peak day.

1904
01:55:39,100 --> 01:55:43,801
so, just to point out, a point of

1905
01:55:45,100 --> 01:55:46,100
clarification, howe, the environmental

1906
01:55:46,100 --> 01:55:50,100
document assessed a truck trip as a 1.5

1907
01:55:50,100 --> 01:55:52,100
passenger car equivalent. So for folks

1908
01:55:52,100 --> 01:55:53,100
who are reviewing the eir, they are

1909
01:55:53,100 --> 01:55:54,100
going

1910
01:55:54,100 --> 01:55:55,100
to see a peak number of combined trips

1911
01:55:55,100 --> 01:55:57,100
at

1912
01:56:00,100 --> 01:56:02,100
271, but that is because the truck trips

1913
01:56:02,100 --> 01:56:05,100
that are holding the structure are

1914
01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:07,401
estimated at 150 passenger car

1915
01:56:09,100 --> 01:56:12,100
equivalence and a 45 passenger care

1916
01:56:18,100 --> 01:56:19,100
equivalence.

1917
01:56:19,100 --> 01:56:21,100
>> okay, based on what you told us, the

1918
01:56:21,100 --> 01:56:25,801
pipe line project is it going to run

1919
01:56:28,100 --> 01:56:30,100
concurrent with the the construction of

1920
01:56:30,100 --> 01:56:32,100
the tank?

1921
01:56:32,100 --> 01:56:33,100
>> that is going to be a shorter line.

1922
01:56:33,100 --> 01:56:35,100
we

1923
01:56:36,100 --> 01:56:39,100
are estimating about 13 months for the

1924
01:56:39,100 --> 01:56:42,601
construction of the pipeline, but there

1925
01:56:43,100 --> 01:56:44,100
will be concurrent construction.

1926
01:56:44,100 --> 01:56:45,100
>> okay.

1927
01:56:45,100 --> 01:56:48,601
>> for a total construction duration of

1928
01:56:50,100 --> 01:56:51,100
25 months, expected construction

1929
01:56:51,100 --> 01:56:52,100
duration

1930
01:56:52,100 --> 01:56:54,100
of 25 months for the entire project,

1931
01:56:54,100 --> 01:56:56,401
pipeline and holding structure.

1932
01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:05,100
>> and then there was a comment tonight

1933
01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:07,100
by the public and I don't think it's

1934
01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:11,201
going to involve you, heather, you can

1935
01:57:12,100 --> 01:57:16,801
sit down. I remember reading it in the

1936
01:57:17,100 --> 01:57:20,100
online comments about looking at

1937
01:57:23,100 --> 01:57:26,100
installing a new pedestrian gate

1938
01:57:26,100 --> 01:57:27,100
between the bay meadows park and the

1939
01:57:27,100 --> 01:57:31,801
parking lot at the center that take the

1940
01:57:33,100 --> 01:57:37,801
shuttles to their jobs in the area. If

1941
01:57:42,100 --> 01:57:46,201
we do nothing, a possible safety issue.

1942
01:57:47,100 --> 01:57:49,100
>> that component for having an access

1943
01:57:49,100 --> 01:57:52,100
gate between the gate center and bay

1944
01:57:52,100 --> 01:57:53,100
meadows is not considered as part of

1945
01:57:53,100 --> 01:57:55,100
this

1946
01:57:56,100 --> 01:58:00,801
project, but dana is here to talk about

1947
01:58:01,100 --> 01:58:02,100
discussions with the recreation and

1948
01:58:02,100 --> 01:58:04,100
parks

1949
01:58:07,100 --> 01:58:09,100
department.

1950
01:58:10,100 --> 01:58:13,100
>> sheila and I have discussed and with

1951
01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:15,100
the issues with the center and the city.

1952
01:58:15,100 --> 01:58:16,100
one would be to create an access gate

1953
01:58:16,100 --> 01:58:18,100
for

1954
01:58:18,100 --> 01:58:20,100
those folks that are currently using the

1955
01:58:20,100 --> 01:58:24,801
soccer feeds as a relief measure for the

1956
01:58:29,100 --> 01:58:32,100
congestion on 28 and we are developing a

1957
01:58:32,100 --> 01:58:36,100
process to do that so that's in

1958
01:58:36,100 --> 01:58:37,100
conversation.

1959
01:58:37,100 --> 01:58:38,100
relative to the commuters, the google

1960
01:58:38,100 --> 01:58:39,100
and

1961
01:58:39,100 --> 01:58:42,601
facebook commuters that we host, that

1962
01:58:43,100 --> 01:58:46,100
traffic is automobile traffic coming

1963
01:58:48,100 --> 01:58:49,100
through the saratoga entrance. City

1964
01:58:49,100 --> 01:58:51,100
staff and I have worked through the

1965
01:58:51,100 --> 01:58:54,100
processes in which that won't be

1966
01:58:54,100 --> 01:58:57,601
interrupted based on times when buses

1967
01:58:59,100 --> 01:59:01,100
arrive and leave. It has to do with

1968
01:59:01,100 --> 01:59:02,100
commuter traffic making sure that if

1969
01:59:02,100 --> 01:59:07,401
there is a way that we can alleviate and

1970
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:12,201
enhance safety for not only kids playing

1971
01:59:21,100 --> 01:59:24,100
in the park. The access is open to

1972
01:59:24,100 --> 01:59:26,100
delaware. It would be open for the park.

1973
01:59:26,100 --> 01:59:27,100
the access would be twofold and one

1974
01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:29,100
fore

1975
01:59:30,100 --> 01:59:34,100
soccer and for bay meadows residents or

1976
01:59:34,100 --> 01:59:36,100
any san mateo residents that are going

1977
01:59:36,100 --> 01:59:39,100
through the parking lot. Does that help

1978
01:59:39,100 --> 01:59:40,100
clarify that?

1979
01:59:40,100 --> 01:59:41,100
>> it's under negotiation?

1980
01:59:41,100 --> 01:59:44,601
>> right, we are working on that

1981
01:59:45,100 --> 01:59:49,100
separately. And then not a part of this

1982
01:59:49,100 --> 01:59:51,100
project. Thank you.

1983
02:00:14,100 --> 02:00:18,801
>> derek, in the work that you did with

1984
02:00:20,100 --> 02:00:23,100
seattle, did they ever address the

1985
02:00:23,100 --> 02:00:27,100
vibration and the noise issues? Were you

1986
02:00:27,100 --> 02:00:29,401
there to see it?

1987
02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:35,601
>> not to my recollection. The noise

1988
02:00:39,100 --> 02:00:40,100
issues in seattle, they were completed

1989
02:00:40,100 --> 02:00:42,100
or

1990
02:00:42,100 --> 02:00:44,401
not active construction sites.

1991
02:00:46,100 --> 02:00:49,100
>> I would be really interested to know

1992
02:00:49,100 --> 02:00:51,100
from them what their experience was on

1993
02:00:51,100 --> 02:00:54,601
this because theirs is a similar

1994
02:00:55,100 --> 02:00:56,100
situation with structures right there on

1995
02:00:56,100 --> 02:00:58,100
top of what it is they were building. So

1996
02:00:58,100 --> 02:01:02,100
I would be interested to know if the

1997
02:01:02,100 --> 02:01:05,100
structures were there when it was built

1998
02:01:05,100 --> 02:01:07,100
or if the structures came after it was

1999
02:01:07,100 --> 02:01:10,100
built. What the impact on those

2000
02:01:10,100 --> 02:01:13,100
structures was during their construction

2001
02:01:13,100 --> 02:01:16,100
because that's great information to get

2002
02:01:16,100 --> 02:01:18,100
from them, also from pacifica as well

2003
02:01:18,100 --> 02:01:20,100
since they have a neighborhood right

2004
02:01:20,100 --> 02:01:24,201
behind theirs. What sort of things were

2005
02:01:25,100 --> 02:01:27,401
they encountering during their

2006
02:01:30,100 --> 02:01:34,100
construction. I also would like to know

2007
02:01:34,100 --> 02:01:38,201
who is responsible, and who holds the

2008
02:01:51,100 --> 02:01:54,100
bill at the end. People commented that

2009
02:01:54,100 --> 02:01:56,100
the contractors shouldn't do the decibel

2010
02:01:56,100 --> 02:01:57,100
level, but if it is the contractors

2011
02:01:57,100 --> 02:01:59,100
doing

2012
02:02:00,100 --> 02:02:02,100
the work, who is responsible for it and

2013
02:02:02,100 --> 02:02:05,100
the damage and how would the city handle

2014
02:02:05,100 --> 02:02:06,100
it. I would like to know what the

2015
02:02:06,100 --> 02:02:08,100
thought

2016
02:02:09,100 --> 02:02:12,601
process is behind it. People mentioned

2017
02:02:13,100 --> 02:02:16,100
other construction methods. Are there

2018
02:02:18,100 --> 02:02:20,100
other construction methods, I don't know

2019
02:02:20,100 --> 02:02:22,100
about building something like that and I

2020
02:02:22,100 --> 02:02:25,100
know you probably looked at all the

2021
02:02:25,100 --> 02:02:26,100
different options.

2022
02:02:26,100 --> 02:02:28,100
>> I'm not too sure what other

2023
02:02:28,100 --> 02:02:31,100
construction methods the public comment

2024
02:02:32,100 --> 02:02:36,100
shared tonight other than methods of the

2025
02:02:36,100 --> 02:02:40,100
pipe. I'm not too sure about what other

2026
02:02:40,100 --> 02:02:41,100
alternatives.

2027
02:02:41,100 --> 02:02:45,100
>> have you investigated all of that in

2028
02:02:45,100 --> 02:02:46,100
your planning?

2029
02:02:46,100 --> 02:02:49,601
>> the design team has evaluated several

2030
02:02:50,100 --> 02:02:51,100
options for construction.

2031
02:02:51,100 --> 02:02:54,100
>> so they chose this method that's been

2032
02:02:54,100 --> 02:02:56,401
considered in the eir?

2033
02:03:01,100 --> 02:03:05,801
>> I would have to rely on heather for

2034
02:03:12,100 --> 02:03:13,100
that.

2035
02:03:13,100 --> 02:03:14,100
>> I'm sorry, can you repeat the

2036
02:03:14,100 --> 02:03:15,100
question?

2037
02:03:15,100 --> 02:03:16,100
>> my question is are there other

2038
02:03:16,100 --> 02:03:18,100
options

2039
02:03:18,100 --> 02:03:19,100
for putting supports down into the

2040
02:03:19,100 --> 02:03:21,100
ground

2041
02:03:21,100 --> 02:03:24,100
to support the tank. I'm not a

2042
02:03:24,100 --> 02:03:26,100
construction person so I'm not going to

2043
02:03:26,100 --> 02:03:27,100
say it right, but are there other

2044
02:03:27,100 --> 02:03:29,100
methods

2045
02:03:30,100 --> 02:03:32,100
other than driving piles or is that the

2046
02:03:32,100 --> 02:03:35,100
only method that's available to us? I

2047
02:03:35,100 --> 02:03:37,100
just want to understand how far along we

2048
02:03:37,100 --> 02:03:39,100
are in the process if it's already been

2049
02:03:39,100 --> 02:03:40,100
decided because that's the best option,

2050
02:03:40,100 --> 02:03:42,100
I

2051
02:03:42,100 --> 02:03:43,100
would like to know that. And if there

2052
02:03:43,100 --> 02:03:45,100
are

2053
02:03:46,100 --> 02:03:49,100
other options why weren't they selected?

2054
02:03:49,100 --> 02:03:53,100
>> so, I'm not the best person to answer

2055
02:03:53,100 --> 02:03:56,100
that either. I'm not a geotechnical

2056
02:03:56,100 --> 02:03:59,100
expert, I'm not a structural engineer,

2057
02:03:59,100 --> 02:04:02,100
I'm not an engineer. That would be a

2058
02:04:02,100 --> 02:04:04,100
better question for our structural folks

2059
02:04:04,100 --> 02:04:07,100
who are not here tonight.

2060
02:04:08,100 --> 02:04:11,601
>> I would be interested the know.

2061
02:04:13,100 --> 02:04:16,601
>> the eir did not evaluate other

2062
02:04:19,100 --> 02:04:21,100
construction methods. So we don't have a

2063
02:04:21,100 --> 02:04:24,100
construction evaluation. Based on the

2064
02:04:25,100 --> 02:04:28,100
geotechnical analysis and I'm venturing

2065
02:04:28,100 --> 02:04:30,100
into an area that I'm not an expert on,

2066
02:04:30,100 --> 02:04:33,100
this was the method to build a

2067
02:04:33,100 --> 02:04:35,100
structurally sound structure. So I would

2068
02:04:35,100 --> 02:04:38,100
say we can take that back to our team to

2069
02:04:38,100 --> 02:04:42,201
see what other terms fof method of

2070
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:45,100
foundation have been explored and

2071
02:04:45,100 --> 02:04:46,100
provide

2072
02:04:46,100 --> 02:04:48,100
and answer for you.

2073
02:04:48,100 --> 02:04:53,100
>> I was just curious. I know a lot of

2074
02:04:53,100 --> 02:04:57,100
work has been done. It doesn't involve a

2075
02:04:57,100 --> 02:04:58,100
long answer. I'm just curious as to

2076
02:04:58,100 --> 02:05:00,100
other

2077
02:05:03,100 --> 02:05:05,100
options. Thank you.

2078
02:05:13,100 --> 02:05:17,100
>> I have a question for heather. You

2079
02:05:17,100 --> 02:05:20,100
were discussing other site location

2080
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:22,401
options? What are they?

2081
02:05:23,100 --> 02:05:26,601
>> that was covered in the earlier

2082
02:05:29,100 --> 02:05:31,100
sites. There were 55 sites.

2083
02:05:31,100 --> 02:05:33,100
>> other sites. Okay, I interpreted

2084
02:05:33,100 --> 02:05:37,201
there were other site locations on the

2085
02:05:38,100 --> 02:05:39,100
event center parking area.

2086
02:05:39,100 --> 02:05:42,100
>> not within the center parking area.

2087
02:05:42,100 --> 02:05:43,100
this location through discussions with

2088
02:05:43,100 --> 02:05:45,100
the event center was the only feasible

2089
02:05:45,100 --> 02:05:47,100
location that they were willing to work

2090
02:05:47,100 --> 02:05:49,401
with the city on.

2091
02:05:50,100 --> 02:05:52,100
>> okay.

2092
02:05:56,100 --> 02:05:58,100
>> anything more? So let me ask a

2093
02:05:58,100 --> 02:06:01,100
question of city staff. I will start

2094
02:06:01,100 --> 02:06:04,100
there. So trying to understand what the

2095
02:06:04,100 --> 02:06:08,100
public talked about with respect to the

2096
02:06:08,100 --> 02:06:11,100
caltrain construction at 25th, that's

2097
02:06:18,100 --> 02:06:21,601
under the jurisdiction of caltrain which

2098
02:06:22,100 --> 02:06:25,100
is a regional entity, and what we are

2099
02:06:25,100 --> 02:06:28,100
talking about tonight, the underground

2100
02:06:30,100 --> 02:06:33,601
flow equalization storage is entirely a

2101
02:06:36,100 --> 02:06:38,100
city, a municipal project with the

2102
02:06:38,100 --> 02:06:39,100
exception of the easement that we are

2103
02:06:39,100 --> 02:06:43,100
asking for from the county for its

2104
02:06:43,100 --> 02:06:47,201
location. So we have what I'm getting

2105
02:06:50,100 --> 02:06:51,100
at is the midnight 2:00 a.m.

2106
02:06:51,100 --> 02:06:52,100
construction

2107
02:06:52,100 --> 02:06:56,801
that went on with caltrain, and that we

2108
02:06:57,100 --> 02:06:58,100
have more control with this project

2109
02:06:58,100 --> 02:07:01,100
because it's a city project in terms of

2110
02:07:01,100 --> 02:07:02,999
the hours of construction.

2111
02:07:02,999 --> 02:07:05,000
>> this project would be coming to the

2112
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:08,000
city for a special use permit and a site

2113
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:10,000
plan and architectural review and there

2114
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:11,000
will be conditions of approval

2115
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:12,000
associated

2116
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:14,000
with those. So the construction hours

2117
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:18,200
will be addressed in the conditions of

2118
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:20,000
approval.

2119
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:23,600
>> okay. Then one other question, by

2120
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:36,000
calculations, the electrical building is

2121
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:37,000
37 feet long by 16 feet wide and a

2122
02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:39,000
little

2123
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:45,200
over 13 feet tall. Does that sound about

2124
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:49,600
right? Okay. And then the underground

2125
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:51,000
storage area is a little over 200 feet

2126
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:53,000
by

2127
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:58,200
a little less than 150 feet in planned

2128
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:05,000
mention and it was mentioned earlier

2129
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:07,000
that

2130
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,000
the depth of the storage was probably 50

2131
02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:16,000
feet but that we would have to excavate

2132
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:20,200
25 feet below that in order to install

2133
02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:22,000
the structure?

2134
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:23,000
>> the depth of the structure is

2135
02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:25,000
anywhere

2136
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:29,000
from 32-50 feet. The bottom of it slopes

2137
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:32,600
to facilitate the cleaning mechanism. In

2138
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:34,000
terms of over excavation, I don't have

2139
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:37,600
that information with me right now.

2140
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:43,000
>> okay.

2141
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:47,200
so we are onto comments? You are

2142
02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:51,600
finished. Comments? You are good. Well

2143
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:57,800
my input would be that based on the

2144
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:07,000
quantity of input we got from the public

2145
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:08,000
and pretty much a consistent message

2146
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:10,000
that

2147
02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:20,400
the project needs to go back and look at

2148
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:25,600
an alternate method of construction and

2149
02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:31,000
avoid the pile of driving and the sheet

2150
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:32,000
pile construction that were delineated

2151
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:34,000
in

2152
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:36,000
the environmental document. I think, I

2153
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:39,000
agree with the residents. That's

2154
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:48,000
unacceptable impacts to those homes, and

2155
02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:51,000
especially given the duration of this

2156
02:09:51,000 --> 02:09:54,600
project. That's it. Just to remind

2157
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:07,000
everyone, you have until may 7 to submit

2158
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:10,600
further comments and questions. We had

2159
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:12,000
an e-mail address I think on the screen

2160
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:16,200
at the end of the presentation. And

2161
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:22,000
those concerns are to my understanding

2162
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:25,000
will be addressed in the final

2163
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:27,000
environmental impact report document

2164
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,000
before it comes back to planning

2165
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:32,000
commission and then onto city council.

2166
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:36,200
so, thank you, everyone. If you could

2167
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:09,000
take your conversation to the lobby. We

2168
02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:13,000
have to wrap up our meeting tonight.

2169
02:11:13,000 --> 02:11:17,200
thank you. So, a couple things. Romero

2170
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:26,000
never got this document. It was passed

2171
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:28,000
out at our last planning commission

2172
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:30,000
meeting and he was absent. And then also

2173
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:34,000
there was mention of a thumb drive with

2174
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:37,600
some additional studies, we didn't get

2175
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:42,800
that and I wasn't aware that that was

2176
02:11:44,000 --> 02:11:45,000
available.

2177
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:47,000
>> I wasn't aware that a thumb drive was

2178
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:48,000
available.

2179
02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:49,000
>> sometimes in the past we have gotten

2180
02:11:49,000 --> 02:11:50,000
a

2181
02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:51,000
cd at the back of the draft

2182
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:53,000
environmental

2183
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:58,000
impact report that we can look at.

2184
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:01,000
>> I think another reason that we

2185
02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:03,000
included the link in the staff report is

2186
02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:05,000
that those technical studies are

2187
02:12:05,000 --> 02:12:07,000
available on the website. I realize that

2188
02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:11,000
is not a substitute for having a hard

2189
02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:14,600
copy. It's a little late now.

2190
02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:21,000
[ laughter ]

2191
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:30,000
we apologize. You are correct, they were

2192
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:33,000
handed out at the last planning

2193
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:36,000
commission meeting. We can follow up on

2194
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:38,000
the thumb drive, but again, that's the

2195
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:40,000
reason we also included the link on the

2196
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:44,800
staff report to the web page which has

2197
02:12:46,000 --> 02:12:48,000
the document.

2198
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:53,000
>> okay.

2199
02:12:53,000 --> 02:12:56,000
>> from a planning point, we could have

2200
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:57,000
handled it better.

2201
02:12:57,000 --> 02:13:01,000
>> I'm looking at page 3 of the staff

2202
02:13:01,000 --> 02:13:04,600
report where it lists attachment 8, the

2203
02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:09,000
geotechnical report. I had heard

2204
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:11,000
references to that but I didn't know how

2205
02:13:11,000 --> 02:13:12,000
to get it.

2206
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:13,000
>> if you go to the website listed in

2207
02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:15,000
the

2208
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:19,000
staff report. It's got all of those

2209
02:13:19,000 --> 02:13:20,000
technical opinions.

2210
02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:23,600
>> can I add a statement of

2211
02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:30,000
clarification. The report is in the

2212
02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:33,000
attachments to the copies you received.

2213
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:34,000
the phase 1 site assessment in

2214
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:36,000
attachment

2215
02:13:37,000 --> 02:13:38,000
e is a 400 plus page document. So we

2216
02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:40,000
just

2217
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:45,600
took the summary section of that

2218
02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:49,000
report and the remainder of that report

2219
02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:52,000
is available in full on the website. If

2220
02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:55,000
there is a request for that report to be

2221
02:13:55,000 --> 02:13:56,000
sent to you directly, please let me

2222
02:13:56,000 --> 02:13:58,000
know.

2223
02:13:58,000 --> 02:14:01,000
>> I think at this point since we closed

2224
02:14:01,000 --> 02:14:02,000
the public hearing, if there are

2225
02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:03,000
procedural questions about how can we

2226
02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:05,000
get

2227
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,000
the documents, we can answer them if

2228
02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:09,000
there are questions about the documents

2229
02:14:09,000 --> 02:14:13,000
themselves, I think that would be better

2230
02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:15,000
handled in a public setting since we

2231
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:17,400
closed the public hearing.

2232
02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:20,000
>> yeah. Okay.

2233
02:14:23,000 --> 02:14:26,000
>> okay. There are no off the record

2234
02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:29,000
questions at a public hearing.

2235
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:35,000
but really, we have closed the public

2236
02:14:35,000 --> 02:14:37,000
hearing on this item. If there is more

2237
02:14:37,000 --> 02:14:39,000
information, we can forward it to the

2238
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:41,000
planning commission. If there is

2239
02:14:41,000 --> 02:14:45,200
anything more, we have a may 6 deadline.

2240
02:14:52,000 --> 02:14:56,000
for making comments. I think since we

2241
02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:57,000
closed the public hearing, we should

2242
02:14:57,000 --> 02:14:59,000
move

2243
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,000
onto other business.

2244
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:04,000
>> reports and announcements.

2245
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:10,200
>> okay, let's see, on april 15th, the

2246
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:13,000
city council will be holding a public

2247
02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:14,000
hearing on the modifications to the

2248
02:15:14,000 --> 02:15:16,000
water

2249
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:17,000
quality control plant that the

2250
02:15:17,000 --> 02:15:19,000
commission

2251
02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:21,400
heard earlier in march.

2252
02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:29,800
if you happen to be at the extravaganza

2253
02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:32,000
on saturday april 20th, we'll have a

2254
02:15:32,000 --> 02:15:34,000
book

2255
02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:37,000
on the efforts that the city has entered

2256
02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:39,000
into with the county to provide

2257
02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:41,000
affordable housing issues. It's mainly

2258
02:15:41,000 --> 02:15:45,000
informational as well as a general plan

2259
02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:48,000
information booth. We'll be there that

2260
02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:49,000
day.

2261
02:15:49,000 --> 02:15:51,000
at your next meeting april 23rd, there

2262
02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:55,000
will be a study session on the

2263
02:15:55,000 --> 02:15:58,000
mid-peninsula proposal and the new

2264
02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:01,600
downtown parking garage and the former

2265
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:03,000
redevelopment sites downtown.

2266
02:16:03,000 --> 02:16:07,200
additionally we will have the return of

2267
02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:10,000
the kerry school modification. I can't

2268
02:16:10,000 --> 02:16:11,000
recall which commissioners were on the

2269
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:15,200
commission when we heard it in study

2270
02:16:16,000 --> 02:16:17,000
session.

2271
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:18,000
saturday, april 27th, again the city has

2272
02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:20,000
entered into an agreement with home for

2273
02:16:20,000 --> 02:16:23,000
all through the county of san mateo to

2274
02:16:23,000 --> 02:16:24,000
provide a forum for a housing

2275
02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:26,000
discussions

2276
02:16:27,000 --> 02:16:29,000
outside of a specific general plan

2277
02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:32,600
discussion, outside of the discussion on

2278
02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:36,600
a specific development project. Home for

2279
02:16:37,000 --> 02:16:39,000
all will be facilitating discussions at

2280
02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:43,000
this meeting which will be from 930-1130

2281
02:16:43,000 --> 02:16:46,000
at san mateo high school in the

2282
02:16:46,000 --> 02:16:50,800
cafeteria. The hope is that not only in

2283
02:16:55,000 --> 02:16:58,600
attendance will be people that are

2284
02:16:59,000 --> 02:17:01,000
normally involved in housing issues, but

2285
02:17:01,000 --> 02:17:03,000
people that are not normally involved in

2286
02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:06,000
civic affairs. That is the reason we are

2287
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:10,200
going to the eggs extravaganza and city

2288
02:17:13,000 --> 02:17:17,200
staff will be setting up and phil's

2289
02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:23,000
coffee shop downtown. The commission is

2290
02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:27,800
welcome for all to come saturday but in

2291
02:17:29,000 --> 02:17:33,200
the guise of being observers rather than

2292
02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:37,000
participants. In the may 14 and 28, we

2293
02:17:37,000 --> 02:17:39,000
do have planned planning commission

2294
02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:40,000
meetings. We have items on those

2295
02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:42,000
agendas.

2296
02:17:43,000 --> 02:17:47,800
so, those would include a review of the

2297
02:17:49,000 --> 02:17:50,000
bay meadows annual development

2298
02:17:50,000 --> 02:17:51,000
agreement,

2299
02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:56,400
as well as a return of the windy hill

2300
02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:01,000
project on the program and construction.

2301
02:18:01,000 --> 02:18:05,000
that's what we have in may for the

2302
02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:07,400
planning commission. That concludes

2303
02:18:10,000 --> 02:18:11,000
staff announcements.

2304
02:18:11,000 --> 02:18:15,000
>> did you want to give an update on the

2305
02:18:15,000 --> 02:18:17,000
432 virginia avenue?

2306
02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:26,200
>> yes, we have responded. Now, if you

2307
02:18:28,100 --> 02:18:32,801
can recollect, did you get cc'ed on the

2308
02:18:37,000 --> 02:18:38,100
staff response, there is a building

2309
02:18:38,100 --> 02:18:41,601
permit, the results of the building

2310
02:18:42,100 --> 02:18:44,100
permit indicate and we've had an

2311
02:18:44,100 --> 02:18:46,100
inspection on the property and the work

2312
02:18:46,100 --> 02:18:48,100
is within the scope. We have sent a

2313
02:18:48,100 --> 02:18:51,100
letter to the property owner and

2314
02:18:51,100 --> 02:18:55,100
indicated that it is a permit issue for

2315
02:18:55,100 --> 02:18:56,100
the single family dwelling and in the

2316
02:18:56,100 --> 02:18:59,100
code that include the single family

2317
02:18:59,100 --> 02:19:01,100
dwelling and the definition of dwelling

2318
02:19:01,100 --> 02:19:04,100
and I will provide a copy of that letter

2319
02:19:04,100 --> 02:19:07,100
to you shortly after adjournment.

2320
02:19:07,100 --> 02:19:09,000
>> okay. Any announcements?

2321
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:09,100
we are adjourned.

2322
02:19:09,100 --> 02:19:11,100
>> okay. Any announcements?