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Please do the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all.

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We have roll call, please. Councilor Pizzo, here, Councillor Coleman, here, Councillor Butler, excused.

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Councillor Moyer, here, Councillor Exner, here, Councillor Gerber, here, and Mayor King, here.

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Any changes to the agenda?

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Any public comment on items not on the agenda?

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Would you state your name and address with record please?

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Hi, Dennis Bachman, 18035, we record, and you have said side of recent good morning Sandy.

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put on by the Sandy Area Chamber of Commerce and there was brought to our

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attention that Sandy's public information officer, the one Alice

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Lashar Bush right now is the one who fills that position. They're planning on

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cutting that position completely and what she does is after I've done some

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research not only as she got into a million dollars not last nine years of me

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with the grants, for she's helped right, but she goes to schools in various other places

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that you can have apartment complex managers can have her come to the department complex

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and teach about the second story, one of the changes, there's all kinds of good things

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that she probably prevents that we'll never know about.

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The truck doesn't roll because she does her job or whoever feels that position does her

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job now on the 14th of this month at the fire annex. She's going to the city, the people

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are going to need the support for that position, not just this lady. I urge everyone to

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talk about this and look into it and be there. Thank you.

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Any

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other public comments? I'm Sharon McCalla at 1-8-0-3-5. We record. I'm also her just to say

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a little bit about the public information offers position. I wasn't really aware until

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I was brought to my attention to being eliminated, so I did a little research and the things that Dennis mentioned, but I also did the last couple of years, I noticed that that public information officer is the person who goes to the family after their home is destroyed by fire.

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And is there for the kind of support that you really can't get anywhere else?

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And I think that's something that so many cities or so many towns lack is that somebody's there to actually assist the family in that this is a heart-breaking time.

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And I just think that's a really important piece that would be ashamed of the lose.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Any other public comments?

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Well, we have our first resolution, the staff report.

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So yes, we have a whole slew of resolutions actually before you tonight, to which we'll

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fall under the Urban and Rule Board jurisdiction and we'd invited members of the Chamber and

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the Fire District to be with us tonight.

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The first three resolutions, instead of kind of going through and talking about each line item,

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what each budget item is representing, I'd be happy to go into more detail about particular items

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that are presented in the resolutions, but I thought I'd just go over the main point of each resolution.

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The supplemental budget resolution is a change to the current biennial budget,

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budget, but it's a resolution to increase what has already been adopted previously.

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And so in each of the three cases that are included in the supplemental budget, there

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were revenues identified to cover the costs that are also associated with the increase

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in the budget.

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For the second resolution, 2011-12, this is just approving transfers within the current

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year budget. So we have major object categories like personnel or capital

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outlay and at times especially right towards the end of the buy-in and we find

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that one category may be over budget while another may be under budget and

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these transfers help kind of make up the difference and transfer portions of the

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budget with access to portions of the budget that may have a shortage. What this

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This does just help us to avoid an audit finding at the end of the biennium.

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Budgets are a guideline and are meant to help us estimate what we think the figures

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will be occasionally just doesn't come out that way and so we find budget categories

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that have excess and budget categories that sort of shortages.

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So this transfer right toward the end of the biennium kind of helps to mitigate those effects

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and transfer funds where they may be needed.

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And then the final resolution for the city is the actual adoption of the next

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biennial budget. This is the same budget that was approved by the Budget Committee and

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recommended by the Budget Committee, saved that the one minor change with the water fund.

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We transferred some money from other capital outlay items into the automatic

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need a reading line item so the net effect was zero but those numbers have been

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changed within the final category. So those are the three budget resolutions

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before the city and I'd be happy to go into any specific detail or answering

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questions about any of the different line items. I tried to lay them out there in

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the staff report but if there are any questions I'd be happy to go over.

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Well just the way I read it and what you've explained to me before this does

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increase the overall budget but just rather each department's budget and it's

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taken from other departments to just balance things out on the yeah

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2011-12 the resolution 2011-10 actually does increase the current year budget

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but we identified revenue sources that offset those increases could you

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explain to me what those revenue sources are yeah we didn't see those earlier in

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the budget. So in the first, this is in resolution 2011-10, right? So there were three funds

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affected. And in the general fund, the revenue source was actually additional, or money

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that we requested from the county early on. We weren't supposed to receive any part of

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that. We weren't supposed to receive the million dollars from the county to help fund the

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library renovation until July. And we'd asked some, for some earlier funds to help cover

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some of the architectural engineering fees that it occurred with with the library. So that's the

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200,000 that we repress this, so we're going to get 800,000 once the new fiscal year begins.

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In the long run, we're still going to get the same million dollars. It's not actually additional money.

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It's just early money. Yeah. Okay. And that's on the previous by any, the one we're just going to

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current in the current one right now yeah that's just about the end yeah so

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as what is done is it's created that capital outlay category in the general

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fund it's caused that to go over okay and we would get an audit finding if we

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didn't do something about that so this but plenty of the book yeah say we have

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the revenue identified we'd like to increase the budget amount for that

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category and this is the amount in the sewer fund it's actually almost the

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technicality. It's an accounting rule that we're required to do. We took out

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at least to get the vacuum truck. You've probably seen rolling around town for

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public works. Accounting rules require us to book the revenue and the expense

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in the fiscal year that happened. So it's a net zero effect, but it causes that

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expense line to really shoot up. And so that's all this is really doing is

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saying, well, we've booked the revenue as well as he

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expense, but this just kind of brings the budget in line

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with what's already happened.

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that's a little bit more complicated.

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This is a combination of two different things.

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We entered into a capital E to fund the purchase

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of additional wireless access points that went around the city

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need to help us increase our coverage for sanding that.

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And so the same county rule applied that the Book the Revenue and Book the Expense

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in the year that it occurred so it caused that line item, that capital outlay category

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to go over budget.

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But the second thing that happened is that we entered into or received that grant for

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the BIT project, the broadband initiatives program project.

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And when we, when Scott had originally put together a budget for the telecommunications fund, he'd only budgeted $500,000 but the grant loan amount that we actually ended up receiving was $750,000.

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So we're spending as if we were going to be reimbursed for $750,000, but there's only $500,000 in the budget.

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So that $442,000 in revenue is a combination of the $250,000 increase for the BIT program and the capital lease amount, which was like $192

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Just a request, I guess, this is only part of the budget committee.

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We have a chance to talk with any budget committee members that are not part of the council.

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It wasn't, you know, it's not required that the budget committee be present for formal adoption of the next biennium budget

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Welcome to be here. Okay. They wanted to but yeah, local budget law

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Just requires the final adoption be done by the the full city council

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Got that right and we already shouldn't have to be doing this so the state law

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Dates that requires to go through these generation it dates back to the reform era a hundred years ago and you know

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management practices have actually changed in 100 years, but the state

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the way it manages this stuff hasn't and you know we have philosophy to look at

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the bottom line make sure we you know expenditures are covered by revenues and

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again this is a fairly antiquated procedure and not one that other states impose

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on cities too as not surprisingly Oregon is a kind of micro-manages local

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government on this issue is in so many others but you know the council has seen the actual

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financial reports and you know we give you the revenue expenditures and that's where we

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kind of watch are we you know we operating in the whole but we're not the grants have come in

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the financing the council has seen all these policy issues already so this really is just a

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Housekeeping matter to try to keep modern financial management consistent with antiquated Oregon Statues.

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I'd entertain the motion at this time if there's no other questions.

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I move that we accept resolutions 2011-10, 2011-12, and 2011-13 as given to us by the staff.

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Motion by Carl second by Jeremy that we adopt resolutions 2011-10-12-13

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All those in favor signify by say nine.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Motion carries.

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And we have the, we need to convene the urban renewal agency.

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And I hereby convene the urban renewal agency.

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Recognize Paul.

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Well yeah, Wenzel McLean is representing the Chamber of Commerce, note that there is no fire department representative here.

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What do we have? What do you have for set?

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Pretty much something very similar to what was presented for the city, just a supplemental budget, which is increasing the budget amount.

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But again has a revenue to offset it.

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This was the decision made by the council to construct the police station earlier than was in the urban removal plan.

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So we had to go out and get the bond issuance to cover that.

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So we, of course, overshot our revenue budget.

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We overshot our expense budget.

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And this supplemental budget helps us to, again, bring it back in line to reality.

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And then the second resolution is the, again, the second, or the budget adoption for the next Friday.

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Any fun?

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Mayor, we're free to take action.

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Since you do have a spare seat up there to record the policies, but you might ask her to go and counsel.

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That way we can get her on the tape.

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And then the Tracy's issue has a little more substance, frankly, at least, too.

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Yeah.

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We have any questions on either of those items for me.

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Would that be questions or comments because the chamber represented by did have a comment?

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First of all, on the chambers, on behalf of the chamber, we just want to say that we're

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really excited about all the changes that we've seen with the SOD program and think that

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the staff have done an incredible job with it.

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What I did want to comment on and I just wanted to kind of put it on the City Council's radar

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and on yours is that according to the bid process it was only necessary for the

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city to send out written requests for vids to three contractors and we have a

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lot more than three contractors that are within the city and our chamber members

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is a matter of fact. So I just thought it would be not only more transparent but also

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better received by our business community if we have things that are going out to

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bit of any substantial amount for the city, not just contractors, but, you know, other

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things as well, that we make sure to let your chamber membership know, and our, you know,

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just a little bit broader outreach, it seems like that would be better for the city as well

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to have more than just a few people, even though it's only required to notify three,

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or

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and only receive back work time too.

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I know. And that's my whole point. It's only set out to seven. So if you had a broader net, he would have had more business commitments. So did we send that out to specific contractors, or do we also publish it in any? You know, I'll ask Tracy to comment when we get to that agenda item. Yeah, nice.

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Any other

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Questions?

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I'll make a motion that we approve.

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Resolution 2011-11.

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The Urban Renewal Supplemental Budget for 09-11.

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And the Resolution 2-2011-14.

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The Urban Renewal says 2011-14.

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is that right or should it be 13?

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That's not the year.

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It's just the US.

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You guys all that's on the number.

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Yeah.

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2014.

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Resolution over.

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Okay, anyway, I got a decision.

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Five second, then motion.

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I'm motion by Lois, second by Phil.

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That we adopt.

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Urban Renewal Agency Resolution 2011.

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Dash 11 and 2011.

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Dash 14.

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All those in favor, signify by say 9.

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I opposed motions here.

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Tracing?

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I was tracing it to talk about this.

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You know, we did issue a single grant.

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just going to step down before you get going.

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Is it okay if I sit in the audience?

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Yes, thank you.

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And in the last cycle, we had a single contractor

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for the work on the side program.

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I mean, we did, I trace, we did want to especially seek out local contractors to do it.

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So that's what, that's why we're here today.

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So, Chris, yeah, so, yeah, based on the advice of the city, let me just start the beginning.

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So, yeah, this is for the second round of the sod projects, or the second year,

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and what I'm calling the first round, and I think that I anticipate two or possibly three rounds

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of projects this year. I'm still working on those projects. And, you know, based on the advice of

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the city attorney, instead of doing the formal bidding process where you put it in the daily journal

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commerce and solicit bids from basically the world, this intermediate procurement process

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allows us to just solicit bids. So it's a simpler process than us and it allows us actually to

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open it more closely to local folks and so that's what I did, you know, I did, you know,

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how, how, how is this common as, as noted, you know, I racked my brain, I asked everybody

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at City Hall and around who should I send this to and I sent it to everybody that I could

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think of which was these seven different contractors, you know, on the future. We did put on our website

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as well and well in advance. In the future, I'll definitely, you know, send it to the chamber

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and they could solicit it, you know, get it out there as well.

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But anyway, the project, the process we followed, you know,

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there's a timeline in there and I did receive,

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we did have a mandatory pre-bid meeting.

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And the purpose of that was just so contractors could come,

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get the information from myself and the architect

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about the project.

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And actually only two people picked up the plans

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and two people attended this pre-bid meeting,

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and we received two bids.

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So, and if you look at the bids,

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hold all of a, you know, we felt pretty good.

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They were relatively close in the amounts.

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And as a total, they're right in the ballpark

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of what the city architect had estimated.

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They looked slightly higher, but not by very much.

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And so we feel good about the amounts of the bids.

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After the initial bidding,

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I did meet with the contractors actually today, and that's why you have just received this tonight, and they've

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voluntarily and basically agreed to split the job between the two of them.

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Typically, on a project like this, we would just take the low bidder, and they would get all of the work.

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In this case, both of the contractors are interested in splitting it up.

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And, you know, the result of that, I think, is a win for everybody, in a sense, the two contractors each get two of the jobs.

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And as I noted in my final paragraph there, because we're taking the low bid for each contractor, the amount that the city will ultimately be charged would be less than if we had taken the low bid of one of the contractors.

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So it's a win-win in that way, and it is keeping the work local.

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So with that, we're recommending that we award to KLM construction in the amount of

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$56,500 for the double dragon and 7-11 projects and full throttle construction in the amount

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of $32,261 for the Anne Farm, it's any chainsaw and frontier building north projects.

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And I'm glad to answer any questions.

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It just looks to me like that is the most, the best decision you could make to save money.

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And stay at the job done.

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And as I'm sure you're probably aware,

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Full throttle did the ACE hardware billing.

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They did a great job on that.

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And I personally know the KLM construction people and I know they do good work too.

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So they did work on the museum and our city community center remodel project.

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All right, so we're familiar with their work and I think they should be very easy to work with and are known for quality work.

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So Tracy, do you have any signs of what's the 4.5 for you?

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Yeah, I didn't bring those with me, but I would be glad to share those with you.

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Yeah, I've been sure.

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Yeah, I'd like to see them too. That'd be great.

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So Trissi, you saved up to round two and round three coming up.

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Depending on the same kind of process they did here.

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That's what I'm hoping, you know, based on the advice of David, because of the size of projects.

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There's not a legal requirement to do this other type of.

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The world wide kind of thing.

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Well, I sure want to compliment you on getting it local.

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This is really.

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You're really typically pretty limited in terms of this process allows for us to be more flexible

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in terms of local contractors. That's one reason that was attractive. Some people will say even

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if you can do it this way, you're better off going through some sort of a, if not a full-blown

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formal process, something that gets public bids out there because they have drive costs down.

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You know, you're constantly kind of weighing sort of a six and one half dozen the other approach is some of these things because

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While that may argue you through it. It's a lot more staff time the front end to do all that so there's cost them while they're and

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you know

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basically to you can't just go out and say all we want to do is hire local contractors

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But you can through this process obviously, you know have your direct your attention more closely on this

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It's not due to the dollar value amount.

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What is the dollar value?

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No.

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Is that due to the dollar value?

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Yes, mayor.

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What's the limit?

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$100,000.

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And is that an aggregate for the whole thing, or is that per?

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It's for the great question.

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It's for the project.

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And so sometimes we get into basically what the law says is that you can't start artificially

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dividing things up in order to avoid thresholds.

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Right.

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So what the way I've sort of approached these questions, you know, with clients over the years to say, okay, well, you know, at this point, what are you ready to go and do, you know, and that's when we talk with Tracy, so right now, I got four projects that are ready to go.

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And I said, okay, let's look at that as the project for right now, and if more come along, you if it's likely, if they're not ready, we can, you know, I think reasonably wait.

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We're not doing that artificially, we're not trying to avoid anything.

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So I think in this case, it just works out really well based on timing and projects that are in the pipeline that will probably be utilized again.

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And then for Tracy, when will this start and be projected to be finished on these?

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Well, we're hoping to, you know,

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assuming you approve this,

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we'll hopefully sign a contract this week

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with the applicants or the contractors.

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And then they have, I think it was 120 days completed,

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but I get, my guess is it will be sooner than that.

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You know, they will have to,

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we talked to them today about, you know,

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the need to not, you know,

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have things torn open during Mount Festival.

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So there's always that weekend,

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and you've got to plan around.

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That's everything, yeah.

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So they'll do as much as they can up until that point

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and then take a break and then probably come back

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and finish it.

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Both contractors are able to and available

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to complete the work as soon as possible.

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Great.

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Thank you.

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Not to interrupt the break, either.

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Right, no, yeah.

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I'm just going to leave you alone.

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Right, so that, yeah, no, they'll be

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butting things up, you know, that week before.

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Tracy, I just wanted to say I do appreciate you trying to hire local people as much as possible and we talked about.

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It's just that Chamber of Commerce needs to feel like they're aware of it.

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Great.

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Any other questions, comments?

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Nope.

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I'm wishing that the approval of the SOG Master of Programs to see the bid recommendation for approval of the SOG program will be approved.

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And I'll second motion by haul a second by Carl that we follow staff recommendation award construction contracts to KLM and

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whole throttle construction to do facade repairs improvements. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Motion carries.

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Thank you.

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Next.

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I'm going to close the urban thing.

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Yes.

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Urban Reserve Board is closed and reconvene a council.

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Staff report on ordinance 2011-08 franchise agreement.

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Mayor or council, this has been a long time coming.

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The current franchise agreement originally expired in late 2009.

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I've been working on it ever since.

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Most of our work has been through an attorney representing wave, David Hanken, but he's obviously communicated with the wave staff.

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It's been done in parallel with Clackham's County as well and the franchise agreement we're recommending is very similar to theirs.

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You had a workshop recently where Nancy Werner explained some of the provisions in the franchise and what you see tonight before you in the ordinance form.

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is essentially what you saw in the workshop.

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There's a couple of blanks that I'll definitely highlight,

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because they're important missing pieces.

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There's some minor language changes

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that we pretty much worked out in conference calls

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between Nancy, myself, Mr. Hank, and Karen Danager,

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by the way, is here.

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I represent a wave.

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She's the general manager for wave broadband in the area

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that includes the Sandy service area.

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The missing, I have no hesitation to recommending the franchise agreement as it's written, the areas of where we still have some blanks and we're hoping to get these worked out between now and the second reading is the term of the agreement and the amount to be paid for access equipment and this again was a discussion for the council workshop as well.

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The term and way CZs is linked, because if they have to find a higher amount for the equipment, they want a longer franchise, basically to amortize that cost.

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And so we're still talking about that and don't have a specific recommendation.

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We had their proposed at the workshop of 12-year term to tie it to the counties.

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Technically, though, the counties is 12 with a five-year extension provision.

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Is that not at all?

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You hear what I'm saying?

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Well, I think it's a certain criteria that it is automatic.

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Nancy and I have proposed some ability to mutually agree to extend it,

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But it would be neutral, where either party could say now let's come up with a new one.

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And so that's still an open issue.

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And again, we hope to have something that both parties can recommend by the next meeting,

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if not, we'll ask you to hold off.

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And again, the amount for the access equipment fees is still an open issue.

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The council noted that there might be additional programming needs.

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if encased amount of college, for example, gets a satellite installation out here.

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But by the same focal way that has asked us to kind of describe what kind of programming

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we envision coming as a result of this equipment.

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And we've shared that because I think we have a mutual interest here.

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If we as a city are going to require the company to pass on the fee to the subscribers,

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you know, we have an interest in making sure those subscribers are getting their

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money's worth. Whatever that cost is, we want it to be programming that they

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will enjoy seeing. I think the options are very much in the cities and the

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company's best interest if we can pull this off. If we could have sports coverage

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from the high school, all the very sports that they do in their facilities near

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the high school campus, if you think about it, it could be everything from football

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games to attendance matches because they don't have outstanding facilities there and if they could

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they could do that coverage.

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And then if you think about it, think about, if you've ever been to a Mr. Dornbecker competition as the fundraiser for Dornbecker days, that is just good entertainment. I mean, I think that would be something that I think a broader community would really enjoy seeing if we could do that. It would give, it would give something special for the cable company that this and Greg TV cannot offer. So we're still discussing that. And I think it's true of mutual interest to come up with some arrangement to provide.

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By quality programming, it's truly local that will give wave, frankly, a competitive

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advantage in the TV service.

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But that's where we are.

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I would urge you to invite Karen to speak to you from first standpoint.

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We hope, again, we hope to work out these final details before the second reading next month

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because the way we have it now, it's set to expire at the end of this month.

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And, frankly, I don't want to do any more extensions, so that's the timeline we're working

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forward. Okay, Karen, would you like to address please? Please.

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I'm Karen Danorher

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at the Vice President of Oregon Operations for Green Park and I've been involved

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in all of the conversations pretty much with regard to the franchise's extension.

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I think that we've come to a mutual agreement on all areas and even the two remaining

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I don't think it's something that's going to hold us up, so if you have some questions

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about me, is it willing to answer your question?

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Are you pretty enabled to send the equipment we're talking about from providing for the

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community college and the school system that Scott talked about earlier?

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How does that feel as far as your company?

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I think we have looked at the list.

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We see that it's a, let's say, a year, kind of a graduation of a commitment.

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So, we feel that the equipment is appropriate,

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we have some agreement on what your programming

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is going to be.

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As Scott said, we find sometimes it's come to us and want us to spend very large amounts

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of money on equipment and do all of these, you know, grandiose things that they're going

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to provide programming and they never provide any programming.

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And, you know, that's our concern, that our customers are going to tune into something they want to see, and they're not going to be looking at the same program in our 12 times over and over and over and over, so I think that the list that we saw, and I believe just from the connection I've had with this, you know, thank community, since we've come on board that you guys are intending to do something for RAM and I'm sure you will.

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So I think that we'll come to some agreement on that with any problem.

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Great, great.

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I see, as I'm a subscriber, I see that you keep adding channels, more options, more programs.

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Sure.

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And if we're going to continue to see that in the future, then I think the community would

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partake very nicely at that.

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Sure. I think Pag is an important component that people operator can provide

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That's nobody else can't rely on right today and that's kind of the local connection that we have as far as

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other stuff great

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I'm not a subscriber

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But I wanted to know a little bit about how

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You handle

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customer service issues

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As there's been a problems from the community in general because the city here about

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that at all?

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How's it about the rest?

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I can address that. I had a couple of issues and I can tell you they were

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very promptly and took care of the problem right away.

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I mean, it was no, certainly wasn't like talking to somebody in the

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year of Pakistan that I couldn't understand. They just took care of it.

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Well, I think that we have it through our franchise. We have a process to handle

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customer complaints. Anybody within the city is welcome to contact me anytime if

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they're not getting any response from our local group. We did open a local office

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here in Sandy to help connect customers here as prior you know there was no

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office and so there was some disconnection there. I'm not aware of any

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You know, and I can come from where I can, from my perspective, the volume that finally

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come to the city out of frustration has been less underweighed by the end than it was previously.

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I think we could document that.

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And the ones that we've only been a couple that have made it to us when people are frustrated

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and the company's been very responsive and resolving the complaint.

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Now, that's not to say that there's some, I know even a member of council never did get

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service and found some other alternatives. So there could be things that get dropped

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and I never hear about it. But the ones that I do hear about that the company's been

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very responsive. Good.

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Any other questions?

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Thank you. I guess I'm going to call for a

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First reading of ordnance 2011-08.

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Let me bring it up here.

446
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,040
Oops.

447
00:35:53,060 --> 00:35:53,380
Here it is.

448
00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:55,780
Ordnance 2011-08.

449
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,020
Ordnance granting a non-exclusive cable television franchise

450
00:35:59,020 --> 00:36:01,560
to wave broadband, fixing terms, conditions,

451
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,180
and compensation of such franchise,

452
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,620
and repealing ordnance 21-94.

453
00:36:06,620 --> 00:36:06,760
4.

454
00:36:14,420 --> 00:36:21,480
In accordance, 2,011 gas zero weight, ready to cable television franchise the wave.

455
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:22,900
I second that motion.

456
00:36:23,460 --> 00:36:24,280
Emotion by Lewis.

457
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,720
Second by Aldo.

458
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:32,140
That we adopt orders 2,011 dash 08, an ordinance granting a non-exclusive cable television franchise

459
00:36:32,140 --> 00:36:37,560
to wave broadband, fixing terms, conditions, and compensation of such franchise and repelling

460
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,100
ordinance 21 dash 94.

461
00:36:39,820 --> 00:36:41,740
All those in favor signify by saying aye.

462
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:42,640
Aye.

463
00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:50,120
I have a question, is this last franchise originally done with talking cables?

464
00:36:50,340 --> 00:36:50,460
Yes.

465
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,520
So you just get charged all the time?

466
00:36:52,820 --> 00:36:52,960
Yeah.

467
00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:56,740
They assume Falcons provisions.

468
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,560
And that was like a 12th page frame.

469
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,240
That's a agreement.

470
00:37:00,580 --> 00:37:02,800
So now we have a 66 page one.

471
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,280
I saw that.

472
00:37:04,540 --> 00:37:05,420
This is not completed.

473
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:05,860
Yeah.

474
00:37:06,580 --> 00:37:07,060
More reading.

475
00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:07,500
More reading.

476
00:37:10,580 --> 00:37:11,060
Wonderful.

477
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,360
That's why you come here.

478
00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:22,500
ordinance 2011 national five.

479
00:37:23,060 --> 00:37:30,280
Mayor council this is a direct response to a city council fall to at least get the procedures in place

480
00:37:31,110 --> 00:37:40,200
to provide a standing at five or to the premises for you know for for kind of the future service.

481
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,480
It does definitely seem to be the direction to go.

482
00:37:44,580 --> 00:37:48,120
We are certainly not on the leading edge here.

483
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,560
Many cities have gone ahead and done this.

484
00:37:52,940 --> 00:37:59,040
The Sandy Net Advisory Board has been very supportive as well, but it is a council goal.

485
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:07,660
We did need to make some minor changes to our development code to require contractors to put in condo at the time of construction.

486
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:17,140
They already have to do that, of course, for water, sewer, street, street lighting, stormwater, and other public improvements, and this would just be one of those.

487
00:38:18,340 --> 00:38:24,120
Tracy managed the process through the Planning Commission, and they did review and recommend and approve.

488
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:25,320
Well, they did have some questions.

489
00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:26,840
There are good questions.

490
00:38:27,020 --> 00:38:35,020
A number of those have already been addressed operationally by the Standing Advisory Board, and we'll deal with them as a utility issue.

491
00:38:35,020 --> 00:38:41,380
for example we will try to you know the contractor would put in frankly the

492
00:38:41,380 --> 00:38:45,300
stuff that's relatively easy when the trenches are open. We'll use a common

493
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:53,180
trench for the utilities and they'll drop the conduit in. We won't require

494
00:38:53,180 --> 00:38:59,100
we don't intend to require the contractors to go outside the subdivision so if

495
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:04,280
we need to get back haul to the subdivision we would take care of that. The city

496
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,520
would own the conduit and fiber once it's installed as we do with all the other, well it's

497
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,580
most of the other utilities.

498
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,980
One question, too, is well potential competitors be allowed to use the conduit and or the

499
00:39:15,980 --> 00:39:16,280
fiber.

500
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,880
I was a little surprised at Karela.

501
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:26,060
Actually, this is one area that we would partner with other companies to make services available

502
00:39:26,060 --> 00:39:31,040
to people, residents who, you know, once they pay for their pipe, this broadband pipe,

503
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,440
Right, we want to make them, you know, have as many services as possible that they can

504
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:36,660
get.

505
00:39:37,020 --> 00:39:38,220
We're only going to be doing an internet.

506
00:39:38,460 --> 00:39:40,580
We're not going to be doing the so-called triple play.

507
00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:47,660
And so that if they wanted, if the customers, our subscribers wanted to use that fiber facility

508
00:39:47,660 --> 00:39:52,980
to get access to waves programming, you know, we really see an opportunity for a partnership

509
00:39:52,980 --> 00:39:58,720
there with wave with facilities here in town to use our fiber network to get programming

510
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:04,780
to homes, or frankly, others too, I mean, competition sure doesn't hurt.

511
00:40:05,180 --> 00:40:07,840
Have we brought that up in the negotiations for their action?

512
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,100
Yeah, now we didn't want to mix the franchise approval with this.

513
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,840
One provision in the franchise says that if we're going in with fiber,

514
00:40:17,020 --> 00:40:22,120
they don't have to put cable because it is technically feasible for them to serve

515
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,680
a TV service to people using our fiber system, so we're not going to

516
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,280
require them to over-build us.

517
00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:32,640
They accepted that change.

518
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,080
They wanted to make a comment in the franchise agreement

519
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,720
that they didn't necessarily agree with us

520
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,740
wiring homes, but we said, you can share that.

521
00:40:40,820 --> 00:40:44,220
But we did talk about the possibilities for partnership.

522
00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:46,360
We've had the same conversation with Frontier,

523
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,300
and they've also been open to the concept.

524
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:50,020
It's a new model for them.

525
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,280
But I think they understand that their phone experts,

526
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,120
and the person wants to have their home wired

527
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,440
for a standard dial tone, you know, they're in a good position to do that.

528
00:41:01,940 --> 00:41:05,340
So I think that's the answer to the other question from the planning commission.

529
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,320
I know they're good questions, but it's not like we haven't thought about those.

530
00:41:10,060 --> 00:41:16,000
I don't think the cost to the developer will be very minimal, but the value in the subdivision

531
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,440
to have a fiber-ready is going to be substantial.

532
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:26,600
I think compared to a number of things that contractors have to do, this is one that they'll be a

533
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,740
no brainer for them to drop that conduit in when that trench is open.

534
00:41:30,980 --> 00:41:33,660
So Tracy, any other comments from the Plank Mission?

535
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:34,820
I'm really happy.

536
00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:41,820
They had a public hearing and there were no public comments at the hearing, so that in

537
00:41:41,820 --> 00:41:44,680
that Scott mentioned, they're just to make this work.

538
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:51,340
There's a few tweaks to the development code as you're, you know, containing the ordinance.

539
00:41:51,340 --> 00:41:54,400
It's a pretty minimal changes that make it possible.

540
00:41:56,250 --> 00:42:02,070
Also comment about from the standing end, or the side of things, equipment for the fiber

541
00:42:02,070 --> 00:42:09,350
in the palm, the way it works, the way the products that are looking at doing is similar

542
00:42:09,350 --> 00:42:13,190
to products that are used in other communities as well.

543
00:42:13,850 --> 00:42:21,130
So we are able to provide down that same fiber path, the internet, and then also in provide

544
00:42:21,130 --> 00:42:27,350
down that same path, a video or telephone, or something that hasn't been yet

545
00:42:27,350 --> 00:42:32,150
rustic in glass, and they come out and enter in, and they just peel off the wave

546
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:36,250
black man connection or when he's here telephone connection. So it's nothing like

547
00:42:36,250 --> 00:42:40,750
something that's bringing out where it's been in. It's basically the same thing

548
00:42:40,750 --> 00:42:49,290
but similar to fire sprays, fire sprays, some of these type of things. It's easy

549
00:42:49,290 --> 00:42:54,230
the content down and they know the other end is divided and they can divide that out.

550
00:42:55,530 --> 00:42:56,170
He's separate.

551
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:07,760
Scott, do you know if the wave is too bad she's left, has similar kinds of greenness with

552
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:14,860
other cities like, you know, this, or we're talking about having them win off ours, would

553
00:43:14,860 --> 00:43:17,900
it be anybody else out there that they've done the same thing with or is it, are we kind

554
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:19,680
of like the one and only guy?

555
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,620
I don't know the answer to that because the only other major

556
00:43:24,620 --> 00:43:28,040
fiber to the whole municipal service that I'm aware of is

557
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,540
on within the penance and there's this triple play. The city

558
00:43:31,540 --> 00:43:35,900
or the cooperative venture provides

559
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,440
a full package for about $100 phone

560
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,540
video and there he is. So I don't know

561
00:43:44,540 --> 00:43:47,340
if wave is doing this

562
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:57,180
But again, as Jeremy points out, the technology is relatively new, but it's not unheard of.

563
00:43:57,540 --> 00:43:59,300
I think again it's the way to go.

564
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,520
In the same way, we're going to be talking about the garbage franchise here in a moment.

565
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,180
We franchise the garbage company, use our streets.

566
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,000
They're using our street.

567
00:44:09,460 --> 00:44:13,140
And residents can get access to FedEx, you know, post office.

568
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:16,160
There's a lot of services that get to the homes via our streets.

569
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,040
It's the same thing.

570
00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:18,820
We're just providing as a utility.

571
00:44:18,980 --> 00:44:22,820
It's very efficient for us to provide that pipe, light it up, and the first step back

572
00:44:22,820 --> 00:44:27,660
and say, you know, whatever content you want to do, you know, it's open access.

573
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,900
I think this is going to be the way of the future.

574
00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:32,700
I don't think there's any question about that.

575
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,000
It's nice for them because they don't have to physically have to maintain that, they call

576
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:38,800
a physical plan.

577
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:40,540
Oh, sure.

578
00:44:40,780 --> 00:44:42,440
The city's going to be the city.

579
00:44:47,060 --> 00:44:47,560
The city's going to be the city.

580
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:47,740
The city's going to be the city.

581
00:44:47,740 --> 00:44:50,620
The city's going to be the city.

582
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,060
The city's going to be the city.

583
00:44:54,060 --> 00:44:59,320
to prepare to hand-made or run that thing with wet air system, if we just like to close

584
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:12,290
So would that have to be quite a process or quite a bit, many what we're talking about, this, we repair things, somebody digs or. Talk about the transition does.

585
00:45:18,310 --> 00:45:25,970
It's a pretty protected pipe, I suspect. You don't tend to have leaks of zeros or ones as obviously.

586
00:45:28,810 --> 00:45:30,330
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

587
00:45:30,450 --> 00:45:31,750
And those are his rules.

588
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:32,070
Those are his rules.

589
00:45:32,070 --> 00:45:32,270
Those are his rules.

590
00:45:32,270 --> 00:45:36,770
Why call for a first reading of ordinance in 1011-5.

591
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:38,490
Mayor just said, that's a point of order.

592
00:45:38,610 --> 00:45:41,490
We want to make sure we take hearings and test how many,

593
00:45:41,550 --> 00:45:41,850
and it's okay.

594
00:45:42,170 --> 00:45:42,770
Right here, so.

595
00:45:42,970 --> 00:45:43,130
Alright.

596
00:45:43,350 --> 00:45:46,010
I would invite public comment on this.

597
00:45:46,330 --> 00:45:46,770
Matter.

598
00:45:50,110 --> 00:45:50,390
Okay.

599
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:50,910
There you go.

600
00:45:51,070 --> 00:45:51,390
Thank you.

601
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:52,750
Now, I call for reading...

602
00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:56,030
First reading of ordinance, 2011-05 by Title Lone.

603
00:45:56,030 --> 00:45:56,710
We'll

604
00:45:58,860 --> 00:45:59,580
read it.

605
00:45:59,860 --> 00:46:00,960
Thanks for that.

606
00:46:01,100 --> 00:46:01,660
2011.

607
00:46:02,340 --> 00:46:03,940
That's 05 in ordinance of many

608
00:46:03,940 --> 00:46:07,020
and Sandy municipal co-chapter 1784

609
00:46:07,020 --> 00:46:10,490
and 17100 regarding the installation

610
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:11,820
of broadband fiber.

611
00:46:16,070 --> 00:46:18,870
Make a motion that we accept the first reading

612
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:20,190
of ordinance 2011.

613
00:46:20,490 --> 00:46:20,730
Action.

614
00:46:22,010 --> 00:46:22,670
Second.

615
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:25,230
Motion by Jeremy.

616
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:26,670
Second by Phil.

617
00:46:27,010 --> 00:46:29,070
That we adopt ordinance 2011.

618
00:46:29,070 --> 00:46:37,750
11.05 an ordinance amending standing musical code chapter 17.84 and 17.100 regarding the installation of broadband 5

619
00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:40,790
All those in favor signify by say hi

620
00:46:54,830 --> 00:46:55,550
201106

621
00:46:58,420 --> 00:46:59,360
This one is

622
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,820
second reading that

623
00:47:01,820 --> 00:47:07,720
Yeah, the ordinance you saw before where the chief was mentioned is just mostly house cleaning items on

624
00:47:08,420 --> 00:47:09,720
dark control and

625
00:47:15,230 --> 00:47:16,150
I would call for the

626
00:47:16,930 --> 00:47:20,390
Second reading of ordinance 2011 06 by title only.

627
00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:25,220
Oh

628
00:47:25,220 --> 00:47:27,360
Sorry, sorry, there you go

629
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:35,580
Get there and notice mandering chapter 6.04 of the San Emeasible Code related to dog control and reaffirming all remaining provisions of chapter 6.04

630
00:47:35,580 --> 00:47:37,220
The San Emeasible Code

631
00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:45,030
2011

632
00:47:51,250 --> 00:48:01,010
hit motion by Lois, second by Jeremy, that we adopted in 2011-06, in order to amend chapter 6.04 of the Sandy Municipal Code relating to

633
00:48:01,010 --> 00:48:10,510
dog control and reaffirming all remaining provisions of chapter 6.04 of the Sandy Municipal Code. All those in favor signify by say 9.

634
00:48:13,110 --> 00:48:14,430
That's quite a mouthful.

635
00:48:14,850 --> 00:48:15,610
Yes, it is.

636
00:48:15,790 --> 00:48:18,030
It's got motion passes.

637
00:48:22,450 --> 00:48:24,030
It's 2011-07.

638
00:48:28,070 --> 00:48:33,470
This is the second reading of an ordinance that you was before you at the May 16th meeting.

639
00:48:34,570 --> 00:48:43,430
And at that meeting, the council directed staff to do some outreach and notify people who would be affected by this.

640
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:46,870
Code enforcement, Kim can elaborate on this better than I can.

641
00:48:47,450 --> 00:48:50,450
We developed a notice that indicated that the Secondary

642
00:48:50,450 --> 00:48:56,330
Disords would take place tonight, have an email and a fax contact

643
00:48:56,330 --> 00:49:00,710
for people who couldn't attend the meeting to present submit comments

644
00:49:00,710 --> 00:49:07,370
and Kim, Code enforcement staff, placed the notice on trucks and trailers

645
00:49:07,370 --> 00:49:12,050
that have been part of the industrial way over the last, since the 16th.

646
00:49:13,130 --> 00:49:19,150
And there was, I think there was a thing in paper last week about it, too, and I, as

647
00:49:19,150 --> 00:49:26,790
of this, I had one telephone call that just really wants a clarification of what would

648
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:30,190
happen if your answer got to, and that's the only comment I have.

649
00:49:30,310 --> 00:49:32,950
I don't know if anybody in the audience is here to speak.

650
00:49:33,250 --> 00:49:35,990
We have any public comment on this ordinance, parking orders?

651
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:44,110
And one thing I should mention, this issue came up at the first meeting as well, is

652
00:49:44,110 --> 00:49:47,030
if adopted with an emergency clause,

653
00:49:47,550 --> 00:49:51,050
the ordinance would be an effect for July 4th

654
00:49:51,050 --> 00:49:54,450
so that the area of industrial way would be open

655
00:49:54,450 --> 00:49:58,190
for people attending the fireworks display

656
00:49:58,190 --> 00:49:59,190
and parking on there.

657
00:49:59,390 --> 00:50:04,410
Otherwise it wouldn't take effect until the August,

658
00:50:04,890 --> 00:50:09,450
no, July 6th, the duration of the fireworks.

659
00:50:10,250 --> 00:50:12,630
You know, the emergency clause is just a way

660
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:15,650
for under-organ law that you can make things be effective immediately.

661
00:50:16,270 --> 00:50:21,930
As staff, if we were to backtrack from the port, we could have had this to, you know,

662
00:50:22,010 --> 00:50:23,570
one meeting ahead to avoid that.

663
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:28,430
There was just, it took some time to figure out the actual ordinance change would do this.

664
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:33,810
And one of the issues we were dealing with and drafting this was, do we just make it site-specific

665
00:50:33,810 --> 00:50:39,030
to industrial way and we decided it would be better to do it city-wide so we don't kind

666
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:40,150
of push the problem around.

667
00:50:40,690 --> 00:50:45,710
so that that did cost him the life so we try to avoid this but it doesn't you

668
00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:50,590
know you're not like crying saying the sky is falling with emergency calls

669
00:50:50,590 --> 00:50:54,630
just means you it's going to be effective immediately now we we can get the

670
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:58,130
word out the folks so you know we're not going to worry about it too much until

671
00:50:58,130 --> 00:51:01,710
the fourth but they especially on that weekend there's going to be a lot of traffic

672
00:51:01,710 --> 00:51:03,330
I think they're in parking there.

673
00:51:03,690 --> 00:51:05,450
Particularly since we're in the fireworks overnight.

674
00:51:05,450 --> 00:51:06,150
Exactly, yeah.

675
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:06,930
That's exactly right.

676
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:08,230
Oh, but the comments that you got,

677
00:51:08,410 --> 00:51:11,710
did they just question or would they?

678
00:51:11,710 --> 00:51:15,090
Yeah, mostly just questions, and the fact

679
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:18,770
that we were going to post it was just

680
00:51:18,770 --> 00:51:19,810
be a citywide thing.

681
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:22,630
And that, you know, since it's all complaint generally

682
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:24,770
and the biggest issue is, you know,

683
00:51:24,830 --> 00:51:27,830
first student will be occupying that facility

684
00:51:28,450 --> 00:51:29,890
and the next couple of weeks in schools

685
00:51:29,890 --> 00:51:34,830
will be starting again and the fall and so and that's really an issue there and then one of the

686
00:51:35,850 --> 00:51:40,790
the construction firm and industrial way to it has had trouble with getting in and out because of

687
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:45,770
the other types of park industry. So that's really kind of the area we're focusing on but like Scott said

688
00:51:45,770 --> 00:51:50,950
you know when you tend to post an area that just moves it to another area they post that area and

689
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:54,570
just moves it to another area so we just made this city wide and this is not uncommon when we were

690
00:51:54,570 --> 00:51:58,930
doing the research on the ordinance you know Portland has this in fact some of this

691
00:51:58,930 --> 00:52:06,290
language was listed from Portland's Code, most of it is from Mattress's Code, so it's

692
00:52:06,290 --> 00:52:10,130
not unusual, it prohibits this type of parking on city streets, and since it is

693
00:52:10,130 --> 00:52:16,130
some point driven, if somebody comes in Friday night and they're dead tired and

694
00:52:16,130 --> 00:52:21,430
they're going to be gone Sunday night, probably it won't be a big issue and they'll

695
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:25,210
be able to do it, and it won't be an independent pound something right away, but we

696
00:52:25,210 --> 00:52:28,610
get people that are, as has been the case when they're actually operating

697
00:52:35,590 --> 00:52:43,850
I appreciate the effort that the city made in terms of reaching out to the work out there

698
00:52:43,850 --> 00:52:50,530
in ample time for them to make some other accommodations for their equipment.

699
00:52:51,370 --> 00:52:54,630
You think we'll be rushing it? You know, did I just create outreach?

700
00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:58,450
now we're going to do it a week early. You think that's going to throw some

701
00:52:58,450 --> 00:53:01,770
King King people's? Well actually my perception is is that we've already got

702
00:53:01,770 --> 00:53:07,810
the message out and I don't see nearly as many trucks there. Yeah I think we

703
00:53:07,810 --> 00:53:12,630
could provide more jeans of them. I think Kevin posted every vehicle that was out

704
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:16,890
there the last two weeks so I noticed some of the regulars are not there.

705
00:53:23,130 --> 00:53:23,550
Yeah

706
00:53:35,580 --> 00:53:39,860
I'll add the emergency class to the title, and we'll probably have a section in there

707
00:53:39,860 --> 00:53:41,580
that says declaring emergency as well.

708
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,540
That's the only thing I want to clarify, and the council wants to have it as emergency.

709
00:53:45,060 --> 00:53:46,400
Just make it as part of the motion.

710
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,100
I think we should.

711
00:53:48,540 --> 00:53:48,660
Yeah.

712
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:48,920
I'm sorry.

713
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:49,600
Which day?

714
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:58,600
Well, we did if we make it to the ordinance will be affected immediately, but we again we'll give people a transition period again

715
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:03,180
We are goal is to try to get it get it pretty well cleared out by a month from now

716
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:05,480
Yeah

717
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:14,420
Good call for second reading. Yeah, I've got a cute up now ordinance

718
00:54:14,420 --> 00:54:18,900
It's a 2007-07 notice of many chapter 10.24 of the St.

719
00:54:18,980 --> 00:54:20,720
Missile Code relating to parking of trucks,

720
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,160
semi-trailers, and trailers, and reaffirming declared

721
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,640
an emergency, and reaffirming all removing

722
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,900
provisions of chapter 10.24 of the St.

723
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,500
Missile Code.

724
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:31,160
That

725
00:54:33,820 --> 00:54:37,560
means that the second reading of 1 is 2011

726
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,300
that actually serves 7, including the emergency.

727
00:54:41,060 --> 00:54:42,360
I'll check them down, question.

728
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,460
Motion by Jeremy.

729
00:54:44,660 --> 00:54:45,320
Second by Olga.

730
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:51,620
that we adopt ordinance 2011-07 in order to amend Chapter 10.24 of the

731
00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:55,020
sanding municipal code relating to parking of trucks, semi-trailers, and

732
00:54:55,020 --> 00:54:58,840
trailers, and reaffirming all remaining provisions of 10.24 of the sanding

733
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,300
municipal code with an emergency clause making it effective immediately. All

734
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:04,960
those in favor signify by saying aye.

735
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:05,560
Aye.

736
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:06,440
Opposed?

737
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:08,180
Motion carries.

738
00:55:11,060 --> 00:55:11,880
Next order of business.

739
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:12,980
New business.

740
00:55:12,980 --> 00:55:17,150
the view disposal fees update.

741
00:55:17,730 --> 00:55:26,290
Mayor of Council on this one, we did, in the past, we had a franchise agreement that was actually with waste management

742
00:55:26,290 --> 00:55:32,850
where any rate increases, they would come and argue for, and it was, you know, put the Council on common

743
00:55:32,850 --> 00:55:38,770
awkward spot of having to decide whether the company's rate increases were a reason or not.

744
00:55:38,770 --> 00:55:52,550
In the 2004 update where we actually put it out to bid and got a new hauler, in that franchise agreement we actually had sort of a formula for rate increases.

745
00:55:52,790 --> 00:55:57,290
So we'd have some certainty, some limitations on the things that would trigger it.

746
00:55:57,930 --> 00:56:03,830
And so one of the triggers though that does allow for an increase in the company's rates.

747
00:56:03,830 --> 00:56:05,870
In this case, it's going to be you disposal recycling.

748
00:56:06,530 --> 00:56:13,450
One of them is that the fees that they face, the dispose of garbage, the tipping fees at

749
00:56:13,450 --> 00:56:18,010
the landfill sites, and that's a formula that they run through.

750
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:22,590
They use a consultant, Steve Donovan, who's good at this sort of thing.

751
00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:28,190
He's actually the same consultant we use for our stormwater fee analysis recently, and

752
00:56:28,190 --> 00:56:33,210
they have attached with their letter of calculations they went through, but the tipping fee increase

753
00:56:33,210 --> 00:56:37,150
is leading to an increase in their fees, their proposing.

754
00:56:38,410 --> 00:56:43,690
Initially in 2004, I think it was their fee increases were effective January 1st,

755
00:56:43,710 --> 00:56:49,070
but their reporting was on a calendar year, so it made it kind of hard to react quick enough.

756
00:56:49,810 --> 00:56:56,610
So we pushed it back to July 1st rate increases that also corresponds with our fiscal year.

757
00:56:57,890 --> 00:57:05,710
And what they're proposing is 57 cents a month for the average residential subscriber which

758
00:57:05,710 --> 00:57:06,770
is not unreasonable.

759
00:57:08,050 --> 00:57:14,030
And people obviously can still, if they have a 35 gallon roll card for a weekly service,

760
00:57:15,170 --> 00:57:21,650
if they can get to a smaller can, if they recycle more, they can go to a 20 gallon container and

761
00:57:21,650 --> 00:57:22,490
save some money.

762
00:57:22,490 --> 00:57:23,650
So there's options for people.

763
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:26,470
People can sort of recycle everything.

764
00:57:27,350 --> 00:57:28,250
Recycling is free.

765
00:57:28,790 --> 00:57:30,430
Yard would be in recycles.

766
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:33,770
So there's ways for customers to keep their costs down.

767
00:57:34,750 --> 00:57:36,770
But in any case, unless we change the franchise agreement

768
00:57:36,770 --> 00:57:38,310
or unless we dispute their numbers

769
00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:40,950
that this is a fairly automatic process.

770
00:57:41,210 --> 00:57:42,370
So I'm putting it before you.

771
00:57:42,730 --> 00:57:47,010
Not for you to take action, but to at least just acknowledge

772
00:57:47,010 --> 00:57:48,510
that they've requested that.

773
00:57:48,670 --> 00:57:51,010
It does correspond with that increase.

774
00:57:51,010 --> 00:57:59,910
I suppose they would be good for the council to vote on it except in accepting the rate increases they propose.

775
00:58:00,750 --> 00:58:05,370
What are we looking to go out for a new franchise?

776
00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:10,950
That sounded like it was 2004. It seemed like just yesterday.

777
00:58:11,570 --> 00:58:12,990
No, that's why I don't know.

778
00:58:14,070 --> 00:58:17,750
I have to look up what it is, but I think it's probably 10 years.

779
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:24,250
So we'd be looking at 2014 and again, it would be a council decision at that time whether you want to open up the bids or

780
00:58:25,090 --> 00:58:27,090
Renegotiate the franchise and that'll be your call

781
00:58:28,350 --> 00:58:34,290
Cities do it one way or the others. There was a lot of work putting out the bed a lot of work. It turned out it was

782
00:58:34,810 --> 00:58:36,070
It was good. I'm glad we did

783
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:41,590
We have this big tickler file that

784
00:58:42,930 --> 00:58:44,130
puts it on our calendar.

785
00:58:44,330 --> 00:58:46,530
In fact, one with PGE is coming up for actually

786
00:58:46,530 --> 00:58:48,870
in early 2012.

787
00:58:49,930 --> 00:58:51,770
And so we're already in discussions with PGE

788
00:58:51,770 --> 00:58:53,510
and with the city attorney on that.

789
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:59,530
So last time we did this review came for me

790
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:01,990
and discussed answers to the question.

791
00:59:02,050 --> 00:59:02,230
Yeah.

792
00:59:03,470 --> 00:59:06,150
Some questions I guess I have that we asked last time

793
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:10,750
was word that for recycling, there are recycling

794
00:59:10,750 --> 00:59:20,550
I think as much as they used to recycle some of it in Styrofoam, other things because they didn't have a fire to offload that recycled material.

795
00:59:21,870 --> 00:59:23,710
I guess my question is, has that changed?

796
00:59:24,110 --> 00:59:24,710
Or will that change?

797
00:59:25,070 --> 00:59:27,690
Or will the ignition not be changed?

798
00:59:28,930 --> 00:59:37,290
For the types of materials that can be recycled, or if the safe Francis and Styrofoam have to be available?

799
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:43,090
That's a good question, Councillor Pizzola. They asked me if I felt they needed to be here for the meeting.

800
00:59:43,150 --> 00:59:49,130
I didn't feel they did for the rate increase, but I'll ask them that specific question and get a response back to the council on that.

801
00:59:49,630 --> 00:59:51,070
So the question is, happy.

802
00:59:51,070 --> 00:59:54,750
You know, my recycling, they never turned any back.

803
00:59:56,310 --> 00:59:57,830
They take it and throw it.

804
00:59:58,370 --> 00:59:59,970
I don't know what they do.

805
01:00:13,170 --> 01:00:23,830
It's a fair question. There's some, there's some, but there are some plastics that have been added, some of those kinds of containers have been added. So I'll ask them to what the outlook is for the recycling market.

806
01:00:23,830 --> 01:00:29,430
an updated flyer of what they will take down for cycles to do because it's ever changing.

807
01:00:29,570 --> 01:00:33,210
Was there a phone with the big one? I think that they said specifically last time that they

808
01:00:33,210 --> 01:00:37,570
were a lot of horrors don't they, but it's not a big market for it. Yeah, it's too bad.

809
01:00:39,350 --> 01:00:45,070
I have to say that when we had the big recycle, put everything on your corner, a lot,

810
01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:50,990
and let them all drag it away. That was a good thing. We've really done a, that was a nice to see

811
01:00:50,990 --> 01:00:53,730
and a lot of people clean up a lot of stuff, particularly me.

812
01:00:55,010 --> 01:00:56,430
You do put Cree on it.

813
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:59,670
Nobody could call us.

814
01:00:59,890 --> 01:01:01,950
That's becoming kind of a tradition, it seems like.

815
01:01:02,090 --> 01:01:05,470
People are wandering the streets, looking for something cool to us.

816
01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:08,160
Yeah, but we've got to get this time.

817
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,560
So, 57 cents is pretty minimal.

818
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:15,200
Yeah, probably a good aspect of this franchise and this agreement with them.

819
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,360
Is there a possibility of getting to do that twice a year?

820
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:36,520
one in the spring and one in the fall or voluntarily I'm willing to ask but maybe the next

821
01:01:38,060 --> 01:01:43,520
in three years or something like that I'm much sure that that's a big thing for me although

822
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:51,000
I did accumulate a lot of stuff in the last time, so they took it all, so maybe now we're going to have a house on this.

823
01:01:51,540 --> 01:01:57,420
People are quite a few extra trucks that may get a lot more rigged and pull it down.

824
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,220
Flatbeds and so on.

825
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,920
And it gets good, definitely.

826
01:02:05,140 --> 01:02:06,400
My neighbor's recycling.

827
01:02:09,580 --> 01:02:17,790
We should have a weekend party doing this party to see people walk up the

828
01:02:17,790 --> 01:02:18,050
mountains.

829
01:02:20,590 --> 01:02:25,810
Yeah, I recommend this motion to accept the rate increase proposal.

830
01:02:27,810 --> 01:02:33,570
Yeah, that's pretty much the same as the increase as proposed by the

831
01:02:35,450 --> 01:02:37,110
I'll second it.

832
01:02:37,290 --> 01:02:44,090
Emotion by Lois, second by Carl, that we accept the rating increase submitted by

833
01:02:45,550 --> 01:02:47,630
put view disposal and recycling.

834
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,590
All those in favor, said by by saying aye.

835
01:02:51,070 --> 01:02:51,430
Aye.

836
01:02:52,010 --> 01:02:52,210
Opposed?

837
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,200
Next on the agenda.

838
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,900
Stormwater detention facility.

839
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:04,240
And Mike has in this staff report responded to the council question.

840
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:10,700
And I was actually surprised when I saw the results of the increase even for the very

841
01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:16,960
largest stormwater deliverers basically as relatively modest, but if you consider the

842
01:03:17,890 --> 01:03:23,780
typical monthly utility bill from Fred Meyer or some of these, it's really pretty modest

843
01:03:23,780 --> 01:03:27,300
compared to their complete utility bill saw.

844
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:37,120
Yeah, this is a leftover from the May 16, where we reviewed the bids for the project and the bids came in.

845
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:45,040
We were very competitive and we had 12 bidders and the little bid was a below the engineer's estimate.

846
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,280
And so, we have looked in the financing on this,

847
01:03:49,420 --> 01:03:51,540
based now that we have the good price

848
01:03:51,540 --> 01:03:56,500
and he recommends the League of Oregon Cities low cap program,

849
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,680
which we've used in the past for the Ruben Lane project,

850
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,240
and which is kind of suited for these smaller issues,

851
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,020
and seems like it's a better fit for the city.

852
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:06,280
Pay a little premium than interest,

853
01:04:06,660 --> 01:04:08,560
but you would, you would, you would,

854
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,700
it would, it would cost you a small bond issue.

855
01:04:11,860 --> 01:04:14,360
And the debt service on that

856
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,380
that is between 60 and 75 miles a year,

857
01:04:16,460 --> 01:04:19,260
which is what we targeted at this 25 cent per year,

858
01:04:19,420 --> 01:04:21,740
you per month rate increase.

859
01:04:22,580 --> 01:04:25,240
And so we believe we can cover the debt service on this

860
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:26,400
with this type of change.

861
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,140
And then Seth also dug up some data mining here

862
01:04:30,140 --> 01:04:33,720
and got all the customers to have a monthly

863
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,060
storm on those greater $100.

864
01:04:36,180 --> 01:04:38,860
And just like Scott, I was kind of surprised too

865
01:04:38,860 --> 01:04:42,680
that with the bigger places you expect to be bigger,

866
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:47,920
but some of these smaller ones, it's really not that big of a, doesn't seem like that big of a burden.

867
01:04:48,780 --> 01:04:52,480
And so at this point, if the Council wanted to proceed with this, we would go ahead and

868
01:04:54,180 --> 01:04:58,940
enter into the agreement with MLHU construction and then come back at some point in the future.

869
01:05:02,260 --> 01:05:06,700
We probably have to do it sometime, we intend to do it after the new fiscal year.

870
01:05:06,700 --> 01:05:12,020
We're trying to time these stormwater changes with the rainy season, so you don't want to

871
01:05:12,020 --> 01:05:16,340
slap everybody with the 25 set of months to increase them, but it's, you know, 95 degrees

872
01:05:16,340 --> 01:05:21,100
out of August and I have three weeks to help them, so it probably might be correct.

873
01:05:21,540 --> 01:05:26,620
Shoot for sometime in November, maybe, just seeing how the cash flow works, huh?

874
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:32,240
And you think we'll have to change that 25 cents, I see you recommending that you have

875
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:36,580
staff return with a rate adjustment, once the low cap has been finalized, so it could

876
01:05:36,580 --> 01:05:37,200
be a little higher.

877
01:05:37,660 --> 01:05:41,620
No, I think it'd be 25 cents will come in because they did give us some preliminary

878
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:42,760
numbers.

879
01:05:43,180 --> 01:05:43,320
All right.

880
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,860
And it looked like the annual debts were speaking to 60 and 70,000 years.

881
01:05:46,980 --> 01:05:47,180
Right.

882
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:52,320
They'll actually let us finance the project over the life of the asset, which was like 50

883
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,580
years, but we didn't recommend that you pay interest costs that would be huge.

884
01:05:55,720 --> 01:06:00,340
But because of that, we could do a 20 year bond and if we did, the payment would actually

885
01:06:00,340 --> 01:06:02,460
should be really very manageable.

886
01:06:02,820 --> 01:06:06,000
So we may be able to look at a 15 year possibly

887
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,800
and avoid some interest costs.

888
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,600
At the 25% E or U.

889
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,740
And once we do that, will this set the 25 cents

890
01:06:15,740 --> 01:06:18,640
or is that going to be of your every 25 cents increase?

891
01:06:18,980 --> 01:06:23,940
I think the stormwater management situation

892
01:06:23,940 --> 01:06:25,840
will be very complex in 15 years.

893
01:06:25,980 --> 01:06:27,280
And who knows what will be doing with water

894
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,400
that falls from the sky.

895
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:34,140
But so it would be surprised if we would be in a position I can't predict 15 years in the future, but

896
01:06:34,140 --> 01:06:35,080
You know, I'll be here.

897
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,480
You should be the check order.

898
01:06:38,300 --> 01:06:38,520
Yeah.

899
01:06:39,820 --> 01:06:40,300
Maybe.

900
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:40,800
Hopefully.

901
01:06:42,220 --> 01:06:42,700
Yeah.

902
01:06:45,260 --> 01:06:46,500
Hopefully both changes.

903
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,940
I would go for the meeting here and I'll still be walking here.

904
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,900
Anyway, you know, certainly we would.

905
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,400
You know, we didn't, you know, in 15 years' hands, you know.

906
01:06:59,460 --> 01:07:01,780
But I'm sure we'll see other rate of distance between them.

907
01:07:01,780 --> 01:07:05,200
I won't be sitting here either to remind you of it.

908
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,120
But it's the moralized now I'm serious.

909
01:07:09,620 --> 01:07:09,760
Yeah.

910
01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:11,620
I feel so much more better.

911
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,740
I'm gonna say it in a second.

912
01:07:14,860 --> 01:07:15,520
I use my key.

913
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:18,960
Yeah.

914
01:07:19,020 --> 01:07:19,540
Do you have a question to mine?

915
01:07:20,420 --> 01:07:20,780
Love it.

916
01:07:21,580 --> 01:07:22,620
Thanks for doing it, though.

917
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:24,420
Yes, thank you, Mike.

918
01:07:28,790 --> 01:07:28,870
Yeah.

919
01:07:29,010 --> 01:07:29,330
Okay.

920
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:29,870
Oh.

921
01:07:30,890 --> 01:07:31,370
Okay.

922
01:07:32,810 --> 01:07:33,870
I'll go get there.

923
01:07:36,730 --> 01:07:44,430
All right, I'll move to the right staff to sign a contract with the ML help construction for the storm order

924
01:07:44,430 --> 01:07:45,790
decension project.

925
01:07:49,940 --> 01:07:56,880
Return with a rate adjustment for the storm order utility when the low cap of one is biolized.

926
01:07:58,940 --> 01:08:06,540
Second. Motion by Phil. Second by Olden that we authorize staff to sign a contract with ML help construction for the

927
01:08:06,540 --> 01:08:11,380
The Munning Park Stormwater Detention Project and direct staff return with a rate adjustment

928
01:08:11,380 --> 01:08:14,700
for the stormwater utility once a low cap loan amount is finalized.

929
01:08:15,220 --> 01:08:17,540
All those in favor signify Bissé and I?

930
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:18,320
Aye.

931
01:08:18,980 --> 01:08:19,360
Opposed?

932
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:20,840
Motion carried.

933
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:26,500
Street closure request?

934
01:08:27,820 --> 01:08:28,660
He's standing.

935
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:31,880
That's my alter ego.

936
01:08:32,180 --> 01:08:32,500
I'm sorry.

937
01:08:32,980 --> 01:08:34,540
He doesn't shop to these units.

938
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:36,240
Well,

939
01:08:41,970 --> 01:08:46,250
it says here we're there requesting closure of Hoffman from Proctor Boulevard to

940
01:08:46,250 --> 01:08:52,110
pine your boulevard for August 20, 2011 for a community event in the Centennial Plaza.

941
01:08:53,210 --> 01:08:56,570
We also very much appreciated your allowing us to do it last year.

942
01:08:57,690 --> 01:08:58,470
What was it?

943
01:08:58,590 --> 01:09:05,130
I looked at it and it was the sandy community and food event, something along those lines.

944
01:09:05,130 --> 01:09:16,650
It is under the they submitted a letter very similarly last year around August 13th. I think it was the event. So it's on the agenda last year. It was a one day event.

945
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:19,450
Who is the writer? I don't know.

946
01:09:21,540 --> 01:09:25,680
Well, maybe they'll give us more information on the next letter next year.

947
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,560
There's nothing in conflict with that. I take it.

948
01:09:29,660 --> 01:09:33,300
So, I guess I'd like to know more about what the amendment is.

949
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:35,740
That is a little curious.

950
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:37,720
I think that...

951
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,160
Stan should come in time.

952
01:09:41,580 --> 01:09:42,700
I'll talk to him.

953
01:09:44,020 --> 01:09:46,160
Sounds like we're recommending you contact him.

954
01:09:46,260 --> 01:09:47,640
Find out what's going on and then come back.

955
01:09:48,700 --> 01:09:50,360
I don't think we have a problem with that.

956
01:09:50,540 --> 01:09:52,760
It would just be nice to know what we're doing.

957
01:09:58,660 --> 01:10:03,540
Yeah, and no conflict with something other other of equal importance or more.

958
01:10:04,180 --> 01:10:08,260
Did they have address? Did they leave a contact information besides that?

959
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:13,880
No, just a letter. Okay. We can call it through and there's no hurry so we can bring it back.

960
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,920
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've got a couple of months. That would be great.

961
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:31,020
Yeah, if you want to look it up, I can't remember if there was any comments made at that meeting, but it was August 13th of 2010.

962
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:34,600
When are we starting on the transit center?

963
01:10:35,620 --> 01:10:42,080
I think we're going to get the final ground approval to begin the design until later this year.

964
01:10:42,460 --> 01:10:44,760
It's a while. It's a ways off.

965
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:49,440
You know, I know concerns have been raised, but I think in the design we can address a lot of the concerns.

966
01:10:49,620 --> 01:10:55,280
I think it was great to provide more event space on the plus itself, and that will take a little bit of work, but I think we can do that.

967
01:10:57,980 --> 01:11:03,760
And I think we can provide a fair amount of parking still on Hoffman and work with the friends, I think we can do that.

968
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,240
So it's just a matter of good design.

969
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,360
Okay, look forward to seeing that.

970
01:11:09,780 --> 01:11:10,940
We have a consent agenda.

971
01:11:16,220 --> 01:11:22,420
motion by Jeremy. Second by Lois that we approve the consent agenda. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

972
01:11:22,940 --> 01:11:25,120
Aye. Opposed? Motion carried.

973
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:37,780
So you manage your report. Just a couple items. The county just this morning forwarded the hearings officer's decision on the tower for the rural broadband.

974
01:11:37,780 --> 01:11:48,020
On a two unincorporated county residence, it was 91 days after we met with them and they agreed to have an expedited process to give us the go ahead.

975
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,860
But they did approve it at the location we had proposed.

976
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:57,560
They have a few other requirements, but I don't think they're especially onerous.

977
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:03,600
They are requiring us to cooperate with their engineering staff on making sure the access road is sufficient.

978
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,440
and we're pretty confident that they'll find it is

979
01:12:06,440 --> 01:12:09,680
since they've had home construction and logging trucks

980
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,000
and everything else going up that road.

981
01:12:12,900 --> 01:12:13,960
So anyway, it's good news.

982
01:12:14,260 --> 01:12:16,120
So we're having a pre-construction meeting

983
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:17,880
with the contractor on Thursday

984
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,520
to get the project started.

985
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:20,880
There's a lot of people waiting for it.

986
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,020
A lot of people are really interested in that.

987
01:12:23,180 --> 01:12:24,020
Great, that's good news.

988
01:12:24,460 --> 01:12:25,500
Yeah, yeah.

989
01:12:26,340 --> 01:12:30,720
A second issue is, and Mary, you'll probably

990
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:31,840
bring this up under your comments.

991
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:36,520
A few weeks ago, we had a very productive meeting with the Mountain Festival with the Chamber

992
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:41,320
on kind of the future of some elements of the Mountain Festival.

993
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:46,480
And the Mountain Festival Committee did decide to do something a little different in

994
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:47,760
2012 with the parade.

995
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:55,440
It will solve a parade, it will be different, but what we've been talking about is more

996
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:58,620
back to the roots of what the Sandy Mountain Festival was 40 years ago.

997
01:12:58,620 --> 01:13:05,660
Next year will be their 40th anniversary, the 40th anniversary, so the plans are for something really good.

998
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:15,420
Anyway, I don't want to see your Thunder mayor, but Councillor Butler and Mayor King, Chamber reps and the Mount.

999
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:22,020
It is a Mount Festival committee's decision on these things, as far as the official Mount Festival things.

1000
01:13:22,020 --> 01:13:26,860
but they've got some good plans for 2012 and beyond.

1001
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:33,380
So, you know, we're going to work pretty closely with them on those things.

1002
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,080
That's all I've got. Oh, one minor issue.

1003
01:13:38,300 --> 01:13:40,180
I think I've sent you by email.

1004
01:13:40,380 --> 01:13:45,180
We had a request for business license for business that, in their description,

1005
01:13:45,420 --> 01:13:51,100
it sounded awful lot like a medical marijuana dispensary

1006
01:13:51,100 --> 01:13:58,000
and the City Attorney's Office worked with the applicant for the business license and wasn't that comfortable

1007
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,840
that what they're proposing was really legal under state law.

1008
01:14:01,020 --> 01:14:07,220
And so we did not issue the business license, but we appreciate the help from the City Attorney's Office reading in the newspaper.

1009
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,980
It seems like this is not a new issue.

1010
01:14:11,180 --> 01:14:17,060
I mean, this is happening statewide when people are kind of testing the law, the prohibits these things.

1011
01:14:17,060 --> 01:14:20,100
and at least it doesn't look like so far,

1012
01:14:20,260 --> 01:14:22,920
we'll be proving ground in the strike.

1013
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:24,840
Oh, really?

1014
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:25,720
Oh, hey.

1015
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,580
Anyway, I just wanted to close the loop on that.

1016
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,040
We didn't deny the business license application.

1017
01:14:35,660 --> 01:14:36,420
Council reports.

1018
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:37,120
Olga?

1019
01:14:38,020 --> 01:14:40,720
Well, not Saturday.

1020
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:42,220
It was wonderful.

1021
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,140
I think we have an excellent time.

1022
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:45,240
And it was very successful.

1023
01:14:46,060 --> 01:14:48,200
That whole deal ceremony of the old building,

1024
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:54,060
of the payroll and the ceremony as well for the plaza, the center might be themselves.

1025
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,700
So, I can tell Rob's, you guys did a good job chasing everybody there.

1026
01:15:01,620 --> 01:15:02,280
I agree.

1027
01:15:05,930 --> 01:15:32,450
Okay. Couple of things. I did go to regional ladder providers to sorting board last week. So thanks for electing me to go to that. It wasn't totally. Actually, it was actually a pretty good meeting to be of understanding what's going on with that group of folks and all the interactions. They have a couple of things that we'll try to do, particularly in terms of how things

1028
01:15:32,450 --> 01:15:39,970
this effect down water energize with different communities and so that will actually be a productive discussion.

1029
01:15:40,890 --> 01:15:49,290
But I did send out an email that I think had a lot of good points in it in terms of how people perceive

1030
01:15:51,070 --> 01:15:57,250
public leaders participate and or listen to individuals within the communities.

1031
01:15:57,250 --> 01:16:14,010
And really, it was a good, interesting discussion by this Adam Davis, who talked about how people perceive leaders not listening to or listening to or being convinced or not being convinced about projects that proposed.

1032
01:16:14,010 --> 01:16:19,110
I think we've had a bunch of those last few years that didn't go across as well as good.

1033
01:16:19,250 --> 01:16:26,610
I really would like to see us kick around those ideas because sometimes you get a little bit of pushback for no particular reason.

1034
01:16:26,610 --> 01:16:30,550
or maybe just we don't understand it, and it's because they don't, the public doesn't understand

1035
01:16:31,090 --> 01:16:36,210
what we're proposing so much. Maybe they disagree with us anyway. But anyway, I thought it was very

1036
01:16:36,210 --> 01:16:37,110
productive for me.

1037
01:16:40,050 --> 01:16:45,470
I don't know if you didn't mention the developers that we talked about this past week.

1038
01:16:46,390 --> 01:16:51,350
I guess I'll bring it up. There it is out of the open area. We did talk with a couple of developers,

1039
01:16:51,350 --> 01:17:06,750
There's potential developers who are thinking about looking at this for acres we have down here in the old city shops, and partnering with us to be able to do some work for some high density housing.

1040
01:17:07,470 --> 01:17:16,610
I have to say that it's a very interesting process. It's got some slices to it, and I assume we're going to be discussing that in the future.

1041
01:17:18,050 --> 01:17:37,950
We've got a review committee and councillors Erberg and actually we asked him to serve on it but a decision will come to the full council as to how we proceed among the two whether we do or not or choose one of them to move ahead and the review committee's meeting on Thursday to come up with this recommendation will bring that to the council.

1042
01:17:39,490 --> 01:17:45,830
interesting stuff. I thought that was well done and nice to see that happening. That was

1043
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:49,150
something you put out, right? And then I just applied to it. That's great.

1044
01:17:51,230 --> 01:17:51,670
I don't know

1045
01:17:51,670 --> 01:17:56,710
that. I have a small complaint that came through me because actually it was only about three

1046
01:17:56,710 --> 01:18:02,610
doors down. Some speeding is happening. People on blind corners are speeding and I mean,

1047
01:18:02,610 --> 01:18:11,350
pass that along to chief and there are some corner of Kimberley Court and Wolf. There's

1048
01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:18,030
a blind corner there and people do from the stop sign to stop sign to do some speed

1049
01:18:18,030 --> 01:18:22,670
up and when you make that corner is about five or six families that have small kids

1050
01:18:22,670 --> 01:18:29,490
that like to play in the street and I'm not going to point any fingers.

1051
01:18:32,170 --> 01:18:35,950
I was thinking you're going to go everywhere the cars are coming from.

1052
01:18:35,990 --> 01:18:37,370
Well, that's what they happen to be to say.

1053
01:18:37,730 --> 01:18:38,130
Yeah.

1054
01:18:39,290 --> 01:18:39,330
Okay.

1055
01:18:39,690 --> 01:18:40,750
That's it.

1056
01:18:44,570 --> 01:18:45,090
Okay.

1057
01:18:45,250 --> 01:18:46,530
I have a couple things.

1058
01:18:47,230 --> 01:18:47,750
I'll

1059
01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:51,150
kind of be into one here.

1060
01:18:53,030 --> 01:19:00,250
So I can, you know, today about all the grass and the weeds and stuff that's popping up on pioneer

1061
01:19:00,250 --> 01:19:06,310
and a partner with all the rain and then of course the warm weather and stuff.

1062
01:19:06,850 --> 01:19:19,110
And it's the business property owner responsibility to get their parking strip there cleaned up

1063
01:19:19,110 --> 01:19:22,410
from weeds and put down some part of the stuff.

1064
01:19:23,170 --> 01:19:30,150
I'm hoping that Jim Hart is listening and he'll do a story for a little bit of civic pride

1065
01:19:30,150 --> 01:19:37,070
from the business community with the Centennial Celebration coming and everything

1066
01:19:37,070 --> 01:19:45,990
that will step up to the plate and get out and fix along the street there and get the weeds down and stuff.

1067
01:19:47,310 --> 01:19:51,890
So I, unfortunately, I have jury, I have to report for jury duty on Wednesday.

1068
01:19:52,610 --> 01:19:58,790
I was going to mention it at the Chamber lunch, and so maybe Hollis or Kelly, you could

1069
01:19:58,790 --> 01:20:04,530
maybe champion it a little bit to work with business, your neighbors or something.

1070
01:20:04,830 --> 01:20:09,450
Just pick it out, at least clean it up a little bit, because if it's looking a little bratty

1071
01:20:09,450 --> 01:20:10,250
and stuff.

1072
01:20:13,260 --> 01:20:23,380
And then maybe we could do a nice letter that Kevin for code enforcement could give to the owners, just asking them to.

1073
01:20:23,740 --> 01:20:26,240
We have ordinance requiring that.

1074
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,880
Right, but I don't want to go in and have a break.

1075
01:20:29,180 --> 01:20:30,220
Or just a slight note.

1076
01:20:30,500 --> 01:20:35,180
Just a little note with a nice letter or something to work out of or something.

1077
01:20:35,180 --> 01:20:43,180
I did ask Austin Moody to his on vacation this week, but when he comes back from vacation to go and

1078
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:50,620
Visit with all the property owners up and down the strip in preparation for the centennial. Okay. That would be nice. Yep. Thank you. Yep.

1079
01:20:51,500 --> 01:20:53,300
The other thing I have is the

1080
01:20:53,300 --> 01:20:58,360
League of Oregon City's meeting and then is coming up. Is that September?

1081
01:21:00,180 --> 01:21:02,100
Last weekend is September.

1082
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:14,340
So while we won't be in the convention hotel and stuff, we should probably get our reservations in for people that are interested in going.

1083
01:21:14,660 --> 01:21:29,200
So I would suggest that we contact Marlin and if you're interested in stuff, I suggest that Carlin and Billy, it would be really good for you guys as a great place to go.

1084
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:29,600
Okay.

1085
01:21:30,780 --> 01:21:33,220
Being bias-banking new and I haven't done that before,

1086
01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:34,500
I guess I don't know what that's about,

1087
01:21:34,500 --> 01:21:36,860
but I assume I could probably ask a couple of questions

1088
01:21:36,860 --> 01:21:37,300
that are on.

1089
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,960
Yeah, but if it is good for you to go around

1090
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,580
and do like a workshop,

1091
01:21:42,380 --> 01:21:44,000
it'll increase and come back.

1092
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,020
So what you're saying, the old members don't have to go?

1093
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:49,200
Is that what you say?

1094
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,180
I want the other new members to have the opportunity

1095
01:21:52,180 --> 01:21:54,640
to go, if they still choose,

1096
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,120
or if it goes with anybody having an upcare.

1097
01:22:01,140 --> 01:22:08,180
And I do have to say Kudos also to Carol for the first Saturday market, the success of it.

1098
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:09,140
It was wonderful.

1099
01:22:09,660 --> 01:22:17,260
If you didn't make it, you've reeling this out on a very nice market, best one ever,

1100
01:22:17,660 --> 01:22:22,300
25 to 30 vendors and stuff and warm and perfect for them.

1101
01:22:22,300 --> 01:22:23,560
It was perfect.

1102
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,960
It was perfect.

1103
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:34,280
it was just a premier event. Thanks, Carol. She's in there. Okay, that's all I have.

1104
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:41,620
All right. Well, I want to say that first Friday was a blast and with her with my family

1105
01:22:41,620 --> 01:22:46,780
and walk around before we headed out of town. And so the weather was obviously helping

1106
01:22:46,780 --> 01:22:53,440
that, but went over to the chamber and saw Paulis and Kelly there. And it was, your guys

1107
01:23:09,740 --> 01:23:14,640
I'm sorry to say I didn't miss the Saturday event and we wanted to go to a

1108
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:23,880
We tried three times, I was having a day wrong, but the day that it was happening I was out of town, so, but I sat over and looked at them and all there.

1109
01:23:24,780 --> 01:23:28,500
It's a pretty nice asset to our community.

1110
01:23:32,230 --> 01:23:39,970
I know we've been talking about having a meeting with the school district that was scheduled for June 20th or more good.

1111
01:23:40,130 --> 01:23:40,530
That's good.

1112
01:23:40,530 --> 01:23:50,230
changed. That has changed. Yeah, we're looking at probably August 22nd now, which is the Monday. Okay, it's not a council meeting. So they don't have a

1113
01:23:50,230 --> 01:24:00,050
port meeting. Okay, they want to bring up. Before I do, they sent out the flag of the Bulls and Bill spoke to market over at Bulls and Bill for the city

1114
01:24:00,050 --> 01:24:03,290
dinner. I told me that they've wind up someone from

1115
01:24:03,290 --> 01:24:07,630
forecast state to talk about the census on

1116
01:24:09,780 --> 01:24:10,220
that. We're

1117
01:24:10,220 --> 01:24:13,560
very interesting. So the last is

1118
01:24:15,670 --> 01:24:18,210
the data for that. So I

1119
01:24:18,210 --> 01:24:18,510
cringe.

1120
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,680
That's since June. The Wilson billboard. Yes, it's

1121
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,260
June 23rd. Okay, okay, I could remember if we still did

1122
01:24:28,260 --> 01:24:30,480
them in June or not. Okay, that's good. Well, I made a comment

1123
01:24:30,480 --> 01:24:32,280
And tomorrow he goes, oh yeah, it's in our city.

1124
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,760
I think I'm going to get better at the coming days.

1125
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,900
So, can you come to ours?

1126
01:24:38,540 --> 01:24:39,780
They actually had an enemy.

1127
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:40,920
They were happy to stay in Finland.

1128
01:24:47,380 --> 01:24:49,500
Latvia is coming up and I

1129
01:24:51,770 --> 01:24:52,870
would like to attend that.

1130
01:24:53,170 --> 01:24:54,230
That's all right with the council.

1131
01:24:54,510 --> 01:24:55,430
It was

1132
01:24:58,240 --> 01:24:58,640
very helpful.

1133
01:24:58,880 --> 01:24:59,520
It was a great conference.

1134
01:25:04,710 --> 01:25:07,390
National Organization and Telecommunications Officers

1135
01:25:07,390 --> 01:25:07,610
invited.

1136
01:25:09,790 --> 01:25:10,930
How much were that cost us?

1137
01:25:11,910 --> 01:25:13,110
Less than a new last year.

1138
01:25:23,610 --> 01:25:32,160
Well, that would be cheaper, but it is an event that

1139
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:35,220
Joe now,

1140
01:25:41,930 --> 01:25:43,790
a lot of invaluable information

1141
01:25:45,870 --> 01:25:47,530
perceived by everyone in

1142
01:25:50,380 --> 01:25:52,980
all the things that we're trying to achieve.

1143
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,780
Can I interject there just as you were since you brought that up?

1144
01:25:58,780 --> 01:26:05,620
Do you know any about the, is it the same thing or the vote about the development?

1145
01:26:06,140 --> 01:26:12,400
Yes, the vote did close a few days ago, the Sandy Net Advisory Board is meeting in a week from,

1146
01:26:12,500 --> 01:26:18,920
or two weeks from Thursday, a week from Thursday. We'll bring the results back to them and then they'll,

1147
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:25,940
we'll be back to the Council. It looks to me like a frontrunner, but I'll ask the Advisory Board

1148
01:26:25,940 --> 01:26:32,860
look at the results. So you can still you can see the response maps on the

1149
01:26:32,860 --> 01:26:36,860
website. There's a little tin map that shows where the votes came in. Oh check.

1150
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:44,360
I give kudos to Scott Brown and show you how to program that up. Literally program that up and you know

1151
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:52,020
and thing and not survey monkey right or something. So as you would enter in your house on

1152
01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:06,720
And then I just want to say that the sidewalk and industrial way there are

1153
01:27:10,850 --> 01:27:11,910
all the trucks used to park.

1154
01:27:12,270 --> 01:27:12,350
Oh.

1155
01:27:13,890 --> 01:27:14,750
Next to the...

1156
01:27:14,750 --> 01:27:15,270
To the bus.

1157
01:27:15,930 --> 01:27:16,030
Yeah.

1158
01:27:16,730 --> 01:27:17,870
What are we calling it?

1159
01:27:18,010 --> 01:27:18,610
The first one?

1160
01:27:19,130 --> 01:27:19,530
The bus bar.

1161
01:27:20,030 --> 01:27:20,270
Right.

1162
01:27:20,650 --> 01:27:20,750
Yeah.

1163
01:27:21,030 --> 01:27:22,630
So I want to say that.

1164
01:27:22,830 --> 01:27:23,250
It's pretty nice.

1165
01:27:24,110 --> 01:27:24,510
Definitely.

1166
01:27:27,310 --> 01:27:31,490
I went to the C4 meeting last Thursday.

1167
01:27:31,490 --> 01:27:37,510
and so the topics on there were that we treat that we're planning for

1168
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:45,500
agenda

1169
01:27:45,500 --> 01:27:48,460
haven't been set yet so we're going to step the issue

1170
01:27:52,940 --> 01:27:54,220
so there was a debate on

1171
01:27:54,220 --> 01:28:01,880
it and it's a debate but a big topic was we had someone there from the

1172
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:06,080
National League of Cities helping discuss and answer questions on our annexation

1173
01:28:07,100 --> 01:28:13,990
and incorporation several cities or in and when in or not cities yet the

1174
01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:20,570
areas that want to consider incorporating a couple of ink blackness back

1175
01:28:24,220 --> 01:28:24,660
to the back

1176
01:28:24,660 --> 01:28:31,720
plane ink and how to do that in a big push from cities as well as the representational

1177
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:35,800
ink out was wanting the county to get out of the city business

1178
01:28:42,230 --> 01:28:43,090
become their own cities

1179
01:28:43,090 --> 01:28:43,970
in the county.

1180
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:52,790
Oak Grove, if they were to incorporate their entire area and

1181
01:28:59,860 --> 01:29:01,740
then the last thing that C4

1182
01:29:01,740 --> 01:29:07,700
was a discussion about the ambulance and our contract.

1183
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:26,550
As I mentioned a little bit earlier, this joint meeting

1184
01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:28,570
between the Council and the school board,

1185
01:29:29,010 --> 01:29:31,330
we've tentatively sketched it, rescuated it.

1186
01:29:31,470 --> 01:29:34,590
For August 22nd, it's gonna be a Monday, 6 p.m.

1187
01:29:35,130 --> 01:29:36,490
over at the Museum of Commerce.

1188
01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:37,510
True.

1189
01:29:39,430 --> 01:29:39,690
Yes.

1190
01:29:40,850 --> 01:29:45,690
And in June 8th, Wednesday, Tracy and I

1191
01:29:45,690 --> 01:29:51,570
are going to be going to a working lunch at weatherfers to try and finalize an

1192
01:29:51,570 --> 01:29:59,900
ITA with PLAC NOMA and Metro and keep buffers.

1193
01:30:03,340 --> 01:30:29,520
So, hopefully we can get that ironed out. I'm going to try and get with them again and finalize some final stuff. We're originally going to have one of our, one of the Metro counsellors, surely, credit. We're so going to get her to write a sandmout here. Or at least write a max out and have maybe a trace of your Scott pick her up and bring her out and kind of show her firsthand what we're trying to maintain.

1194
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:34,220
so that she'd have a better idea than us trying to describe it to her.

1195
01:30:34,780 --> 01:30:37,120
But it looks like she's kind of throwing a monkey wrench in this thing.

1196
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,160
So we're still going to try and get her point across

1197
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,880
and see if we can get this idea signed and finalized.

1198
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:48,660
I have something that kind of a query here.

1199
01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:52,640
I saw Tracy at lunch time today

1200
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:57,360
and I've noticed a PGE meter basically in the sidewalk

1201
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:02,080
walk and I was kind of wondering why that would be in the right

1202
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:12,280
of way in the sidewalk down between the Thai place and no place on the north side

1203
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:22,640
of the road right but they kind of hung it right in the sidewalk yeah well

1204
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:27,640
I don't mean there's any several great people I've had in there, there's a PGS parents

1205
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:32,040
requirements for that, there's some sort of research you can get in there so it can't

1206
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:32,940
be people's fulfilment.

1207
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:33,260
Right.

1208
01:31:34,020 --> 01:31:36,460
You just seem a little odd to me, but okay.

1209
01:31:37,740 --> 01:31:41,580
And I also attended first Friday, I didn't make her with chamber office, sorry.

1210
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:51,000
I was impressed with the turnout for that considering it was high school graduations ceremony and it

1211
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,900
it was the best weather I think we've had for a first Friday and if haven't been for

1212
01:31:54,900 --> 01:31:59,660
the high school graduation I think the streets would have been crawling with people so it's

1213
01:31:59,660 --> 01:32:06,200
encouraging to me. The Mountain Festival, like Scott said earlier, did meet with the city and

1214
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:12,140
they were kind of deciding that the parade is going to be changing. We're still going to have

1215
01:32:12,140 --> 01:32:18,540
a parade like Scott said. They're trying to plan a whole lot of new stuff and they haven't got a lot

1216
01:32:18,540 --> 01:32:23,020
a firm details yet but they've got a lot of great ideas and they're still looking for more ideas

1217
01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:29,200
in the ways to keep up the energy and the excitement and make sure everybody still has fun.

1218
01:32:29,900 --> 01:32:34,220
The parade is going to be kind of aimed at children in the future here.

1219
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:38,780
I'm going to garden through 12th grade kind of thing and I think we're

1220
01:32:38,780 --> 01:32:46,480
tentatively looking at Pleasant Street to possibly for that. So some of the ideas they've got

1221
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:50,940
Sounds like it's going to be a lot of fun. It's just going to be different and we

1222
01:32:50,940 --> 01:32:54,440
used to it. We won't have to worry about trying to shut down Highway 26.

1223
01:32:57,220 --> 01:33:07,040
If you have any ideas for things for people to do, then please let somebody know who can get that in there.

1224
01:33:07,140 --> 01:33:16,220
We will jointly author organizations will have a survey. It will point to a survey to get ideas for events, things, activities.

1225
01:33:16,220 --> 01:33:22,060
the city website, mountain festival website, and the chamber's website, so I forgot about that.

1226
01:33:22,500 --> 01:33:28,600
Great way to get the ideas out. One other thing now, it looks like the ARCO station is just about

1227
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:32,920
complete and I've got to say that it looks a lot better, it looks like they've designed it to

1228
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:39,300
try and contain spills while they're filling the tanks. It's my guess from the way the concrete

1229
01:33:39,300 --> 01:33:49,240
board in there. And with the trees and the plants they've got looks a lot nicer. And looks like the

1230
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:56,260
police stations come along very nicely. I've heard a few people ask it's not going to be yellow.

1231
01:33:57,060 --> 01:34:01,160
No, I'm sure it's not. Emma's home and I wasn't mistaken.

1232
01:34:07,740 --> 01:34:20,300
That's all I have. Oh, on the dedication, we did dedicate that mural to Linda for her service as mayor and I can tell from her eyes

1233
01:34:20,300 --> 01:34:27,740
and you can a little bit or her demeanor that we definitely called her by surprise. I don't know how it kept the cat in the bag for as long as we did.

1234
01:34:27,740 --> 01:34:33,100
but I thought it really went off great. There was great participation. A lot of people there,

1235
01:34:33,700 --> 01:34:42,460
the mural looked great. We dedicated the Centennial Plaza also. And if you weren't there or

1236
01:34:42,460 --> 01:34:47,660
why you missed something great, there was a lot of fun. The farmer's market really came off good too

1237
01:34:47,660 --> 01:34:52,220
and I hope that continues throughout the summer. And with that, the journey.