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Welcome, everyone, to the city council regular meeting of the Santa Paula City Council. It's Tuesday, July 2nd scheduled for 6.30 p.m. We will now call the meeting to order at 6.35. Madam Clerk, would you call the roll, please. Excuse me. I went out of order. Did I not? Forgive me. I was ready to go with that. First, we will ask for the invocation.

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Mayer, vice mayor, council members, staff and all those in the chamber here with me and beyond in the virtual community, will you pray with me?

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Gracious loving God, spirit of life and love, by whatever name you call the Holy, we are grateful to be together this week of Independence Day

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In this, our beloved community of Santa Paula, we are grateful, again, for our very lives,

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even as we know that many struggle, even here, even here in our beloved community.

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May we be reminded that no matter where we live, everyone is our neighbor, everyone is

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are sibling and that throughout the ages, profits have called the leaders of people to respect

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and protect the least of those among us, our children, the elderly, the poor, those

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who are hungry, those who have no homes.

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We pray this evening for our mayor, for our

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city officials and in particular for this assemble council. We pray for the agenda set before

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for them this evening. May our work here this evening may or Leslie Cornelho.

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A lot of

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people out here. It's an honor to be here. Thank you, Caitlin. Thank you to the people

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in it.

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May all beings be safe. May all beings be at peace. May it be so in the name of the

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Holy, amen.

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Reverend, would you stay up at the mic just for a moment?

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I'd like to thank you for all of your lovely invocations.

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A little over a month ago, the Reverend retired and had a reception.

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And so she was presented by a certificate of recognition.

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And I'd like to also give that again to you this evening.

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And thank you again for all of your lovely invocations that you've given.

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Thank you.

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And just so you all know, I'm not planning to move out of the area necessarily, so you may see me back, because the church has made me a merit us.

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So, you'll see.

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That's a good word of merit.

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There you are.

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Someone wants a photo.

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Oh.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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That's a great name on me.

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As we remain standing, I would ask the vice mayor to please leave this in the pledge of

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legions.

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Thank you, ma'am.

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Please put your right hand over the floor.

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To be followed for which it stands, formation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice

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are all.

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Now, Madam Clerk, if you'd so kindly call the roll.

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Council Member Crosswhite, here.

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Council Member Juarez.

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Here.

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Council members, the bill is absent this evening.

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Vice Mayor Chavez.

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President.

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Mayor Cornejo here.

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Thank you.

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And I would like to ask our city attorney, Ms. Castillo, to give a report on our closed

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session.

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Thank you, Madame Mayor.

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This evening, Council recessed into closed session to discuss two items.

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The first was conference with real property negotiator,

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opportunity.

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We're suant to government code 54956.8 about property located at 1430 Santa Clara Street. The terms of the negotiation and price terms were discussed. Secondly, council recess discuss the public performance evaluation of the city manager. That process has concluded and there are no reportable actions on either item. Thank you, Madam Mayor.

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Thank you. We'll move on to public comment and I won't read the whole paragraph about

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public comment but you are given three minutes and asked to fill out a card or a paper to

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be recognized. And at this point for public comment, these are the items that are not

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already on the agenda at a later time this evening. We do have a Michael Lozano, we call

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you to speak. Are you here? Please. And you'll be given three minutes.

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Three minutes. Whole three minutes. Yeah.

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Good afternoon. City Councilmembers. And this is Prejudifier. You all know that the last

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several months that the citizens of this city have been enduring relentless firework and it's

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nuisance and it's not tolerable.

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If I read the general plan, this is a city shall aggressively pursue enforcement of its

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noise ordinance to respond and make it noise violations nuisance, noise such as parking

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dogs, a lot of music shall also be enforcement priority for the city.

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So I want you to know that and I speak honestly that there are people in this community that

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are suffering, um, legitimate suffering from the noise of, uh, you know, these fireworks.

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And I don't know how many of you live within the city, but it's gotten, forgetfully, worse

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and worse.

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Well, like Beverly and I have lived in the city, have been homeowners back in that oaks area

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for about 36 years, and we've watched you get worse and worse.

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I don't say that, uh, as witness to that, it's not getting better.

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And it is no fault of our police department.

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God bless them.

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They do a great job.

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I love our police department.

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I feel safe.

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I don't like the threat of fireworks

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possibly causing a fire.

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We've watched fires on the hill up by the hospital.

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And we've found fireworks in our neighbor's trees.

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She calls us crying at 9 o'clock at night, 10 o'clock at night.

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She is traumatized.

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She's a widow, and she's a loan, and she's frightened.

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She's not the only one.

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If I visit the social media, Facebook, next door,

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the neighborhood, whatever's called now, it's endless.

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And I don't accept when someone says,

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well, you might as well tranquilize your dog,

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you might as well buy some.

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Stay the art, headset, mitigate the noise.

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That's not acceptable.

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I live in the evasion world,

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and we're subject to noise abatement, policy procedures, we comply because to not do so the penalty is severe.

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One warning and then it's $5,000. It doesn't go to me, it goes to the aircraft owner, and that keeps us honest.

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So we say that approach this problem, not as an illegal firework, they're destroying the evidence before the officers can get there.

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But you go after the homeowner who is wrenching to a tenant or the tenant themselves and they get a letter first off.

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And then it is a severe punishment.

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You can misdemeanor and usually reduce to maybe some sort of refraction.

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But the penalty is not great enough.

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There's one more I can say on the subject how they have curved airplane noise

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in communities like Torrance, Santa Monica, and some of the others I've missed across the country.

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So, but they have empowered citizens.

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The citizens have the capacity to send the letter by witness of several neighbors.

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And then they impose, find it's not the FAA, and it's not a state or a county or city, it is a citizen group.

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Thank you, Mr. Listen, I'm sorry to time us up appreciate your comments.

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Thank you,

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Vice Mayor.

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Yeah, Mayor Cornel, is that the only public comment we have for the evening?

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That's on the Nanaget night.

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It is.

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Since we don't have any other public comments, I'd like to ask the chief to please come up and

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just share what our policy is regarding.

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Starting fireworks so that we can again inform the public about our firework policy in the city. I know that's a bit of video recently, so. If you could just respond to the concerns without a full report since it's not agendized, but certainly we need to acknowledge that. Thank you mayor and vice mayor. Yes, so we have been moving with our campaign forward this season for 4th of July and the other holidays that come later in the year.

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It is violation to possess even safe and sane fireworks, or any other fireworks that are in the health and safety code categorized and identified as dangerous, which means we could arrest anybody for violation of the ordinance here in the city, or the health and safety code for those dangerous fireworks, whether they are illegal, or they are safe and sane.

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are not allowable in the city limits and we will look for those violators.

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We have extra dispatchers on this weekend.

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We have extra patrols this weekend as well to look out for where those are happening.

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We ask for the public's patience.

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We'll respond to those calls and we'll affect arrests whether they have used the fireworks

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or have a supply on hand that have not been used yet.

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We have a disposal at our station for anyone who comes into contact with fireworks

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whether they are have been used or unused, and we will take those and confiscate those to make sure we dispose of those safely.

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So that's our approach, we've produced a public safety announcement on video, that's been on the website.

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We have been on our social media to let everybody know that safe and safe fireworks are illegal, and

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to report fireworks violations as they appear out there.

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So we'll be out this weekend in force, beginning with our extra enforcement beginning tomorrow through the weekend.

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Thank you, Chief.

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Appreciate it.

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Move on to presentations, 7A.

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We have a presenter for the Ventura County Fairport poster.

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We have Betsy Chess.

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Good evening, Madam Mayor.

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Council, staff, it's a pleasure to be here.

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You probably know that our mayor is also on the fair board but she can only

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were so many hats, so I'm here this evening. And it's my pleasure to make a presentation

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of this year's County Fair poster. The theme is Fair Ever Young. And this is the

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work of Stephanie Garcia, she's 17 years old from Oxard. This year there were 340 submissions,

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so it's quite an honor to be chosen. It was interesting last year, there were only 32 submissions,

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and this year the change of not having was last year and years previously it was a $10 fee to enter your poster that's been done away with and the other interesting thing was this year entries were open from kindergarten through 12th grade and I've got to tell you there was some remarkable second and third grade art.

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So it's my pleasure to present this to you and also welcome to the fair. There's 12 days of drone shows.

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There's all sorts of new exciting things and then there's some returning things the lions will be there doing bingo

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So there's something for everyone this year at the fair and thank you, and I hope to see you all at the fair

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Thank you fair director Betsy chess

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Okay, we'll move on to seven B parks and rec

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Recreation month proclamation

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I have the proclamation here

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Designation of July as Park and Recreation Month, whereas Parks and Recreation programs are an integral part of communities throughout this country, including the city of Santa Paula, and whereas our parks and recreation are vitally important to establishing and maintaining the quality of life in our communities, ensuring the health of all citizens and contributing to the economic and environmental well-being of a community and region, and whereas Parks and Recreation programs build healthy,

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active communities that aid in the prevention of chronic disease, provide therapeutic

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recreation services for those who are mentally or physically disabled, and also improve

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the mental and emotional health of all citizens, and whereas parks and recreation programs

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increase a community's economic prosperity, through increased property values, expansion of

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the local tax base, increased tourism, the attraction and retention of businesses, and crime

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reduction and whereas parks and recreation areas are fundamental to the

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environmental well-being of our community and whereas parks and natural

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recreation areas improve water quality protect groundwater prevent flooding

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improve the quality

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We have the air we breathe, provide vegetative buffers to the development and produce habitat for wildlife. And whereas our parks and natural recreation areas ensure the ecological beauty of our community and provide a place for children and adults to connect with nature and recreate outdoors. And whereas the U.S. House of Representatives has designated July as parks and recreation month. And whereas the city of Santa Paula recognizes the benefits derived from parks and recreation resources.

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Now therefore, I, Leslie Cornel, Mayor of the City of Santa Paula, and on behalf of the City Council recognize the importance of access to local parks, trails, open space, and facilities for the health, wellness, development, inspiration, and safety of all Californians, and do hereby proclaim the month of July as Park and Recreation Month in the City of Santa Paula, they did the second day of July 2024.

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and we have Vanessa Olmos, a committee chair of Parks Recreation here to receive the

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proclamation.

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So,

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good evening, everyone.

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On behalf of the Parks and Recreation Commission and Department, I want to thank you for recognizing

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July's Parks and Recreation Month.

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Our Parks and Recreation Department worked tirelessly day in and day out to make sure that

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the community has programs and facilities to utilize.

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Not enough can be said about the entire department, and this proclamation just emphasizes

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the hard work and dedication that they all have.

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Whether it's partnering with the school district to make sure our youths have access to

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sports programs during the school year and programs during the summer, or making sure our seniors

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are able to access meals and activities for their lifestyles.

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This team knows no end to the possibilities that are out there for our community.

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And none of this is possible without the park's crew who take pride in what they do to make sure our facilities are pristine.

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I know they take pride in the work that they do and without them we wouldn't be able to host such wonderful events in the community.

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And I urge everyone to participate in some of our facilities and activities, whether it's a visit with the mobile activity center at a park near you,

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or whether it's the movie nights, which our next one is July 12th at last year of this park.

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So I want to implore the community to enjoy everything that our Parks and Recreation Department has to offer.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Do you have anyone else here that was on the commission with you?

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We do have our newest commissioner, Chris Ines, the lease here as well.

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Thank you very, very much.

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Okay,

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item 7c, Community Action, Ventura County, CVIC presentation, and we have here with

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Asuzi Lopez Garcia, Executive Director, and Julia, is it Louis or Luis?

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Louis, Administrative Assistant, please.

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Good evening everyone, my name is Zuzi Lopez Garcia, and this is Julia.

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So we just wanted to come to the meeting to really give you a more of an overview of community

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community action and also some of the work we've been doing in Santa Paula.

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So, community action was established in 1965.

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We have been serving the whole county of Ventura for since 1965.

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But in the last year, we actually moved and

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leased out a space here in the city of Santa Paula.

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So, we wanted to share some of that information.

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And we'll start off with our mission.

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Our mission is helping our community establish pathways out of poverty through advocacy,

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see partnerships and services that promote dignity and self-sufficiency.

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What's unique about us?

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So I do see some familiar faces around the table.

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Councilmember Crosswhite is a past board member with community action of Intura County.

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So our board's structure, it really brings together community leaders to collaborate and

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developing responses to local leads.

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So what that means is we, our board composition, one third is from the public sector.

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So each board of supervisors appoints an elected official on to our board.

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So currently the board member that represents the area of Santa Paula, film or pyru,

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is council member Christina Villesanyard who sits on our board.

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The other piece is, so one third is public officials, one third is private sector.

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And the other third is of the low income sector. So that means it can be a community member who may be low income or a representative or somebody that works representing an agency such as we have had people on our board who represents real economics, different agencies as well. And that really brings all the voices to the table as we make decisions. We have representation across the county and also in our work and serving individuals or households who are

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of low income that we're taking that into consideration when we're making decisions.

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The other piece is we definitely depend on volunteer support.

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We'll share out some of our programs that really, if we didn't have volunteers, we wouldn't

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be able to serve a lot of the different households.

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And then maximum feasible participation.

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We've had clients of ours who have been hired and our staff members now, so we definitely

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look at that piece as well of people who have come in through looking for services and then at

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some point may have become staff members of ours.

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And like I mentioned, we did open up, we just

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hit our one year anniversary. We have a satellite office out of Pueblo, a center del pueblo who also hosts

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Pueblo in Latino town hall along with others. So we've been there for a full year now and really that

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that came about because of our community needs assessment.

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We conduct the community needs assessment every two years.

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We look at demographics, we look at data,

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we ask questions around what are the needs

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in every community.

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So we do try to have focus groups in all our cities.

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We have surveys that go out.

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So something that kept coming up was there

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was a need to come into the area to provide services.

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People would make their way to Oxford where our main office is.

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We would rent out space, we used a borrow space from Bo-Bulab so we can serve once a month

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we would come in when I think CAUSE, the first five had different offices here, we would

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also borrow office space.

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So it's been a great help to been able to open an office here so that we can then kind

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of come in, have our own keys meet with clients.

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If it's outside of the eight to five hours, we're able to make appointments, we're able

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to have the bigger space to host groups,

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to host trainings.

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And then just sharing some of our strategic goals.

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I do want to highlight number four,

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making ourselves known throughout Ventura County,

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unless people access our services,

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many times they don't know who community action is.

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So we have been working on that by, again, presentations,

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social media, talking to everyone we can

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so that people can access our services.

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And then a rundown of our programs, the one you might be familiar with that just wrapped

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up earlier this year was the Water Bill Assistant Lightwap.

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So I think we hosted a day, thank you to the council members, thank you, council member

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Tavis, who also kind of asked us like, explain Lightwap to me.

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So we hosted a day where we had an enrollment and then we processed and we'll share out some

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data on that program, but it did wrap up earlier in the year.

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We were able to connect with staff and really work together on that.

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We also have a community market food hub, so we have a food pantry every Thursday in our

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Oxford office.

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We also partnered with Food Forward, and they bring us produce to our Oxford office, and

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then in turn we organize and get that produce out to about 27 pantries across the county,

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which includes some pantries here in Santa Paula.

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community workshops around financial wellness, mental wellness, and then we also just started

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a new program with Medi-Cal Enrollment Navigator Program, and so that is staff that is helping

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people stay enrolled or renew into the program.

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Home weatherization.

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So that's the other piece we also connected with staff here in Santa Paula.

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We go into home so we're not only just looking at helping them pay their utility assistance,

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since we also look at what can be done in the home

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to lower those utility payments.

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And so we can do anything from shower heads

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to light balls or energy efficient

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out to replacing water heaters, furnaces.

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We do appliances, washers, dryers.

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We've just added some refrigerators, microwave stoves,

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and we also run tests.

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It's not just about lowering the utility costs.

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It's also making sure that how safe we conduct tests around carbon monoxide in the home to make sure everything's working properly

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Utility assistance so the one we are continuing is the gas or electricity and then in our Oxford office

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We do provide on shelter services so that showers laundry milling address

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And referrals out for other services.

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And Julia's going to explain a little bit more of the impact we've had here in Santa Paula.

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I'm Julia. So if you look on the screen, the graph displays how much Lywap funds went into each city in Ventura County. And Santa Paula was the second city to receive the largest amount of Lywap funds at 200, 200,000, 175,000.

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$173.35.

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Over 200 households in Santa Paula received water assistance.

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In Santa Paula, 39 homes were weatherized, and depending on the services,

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it takes an average of $4,000 to weatherize a home.

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An average of 718 households in Santa Paula received utility assistance,

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and that includes gas and electricity.

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And out of our Santa Paula satellite office,

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we do a lot of workshops there.

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So recently we partnered with everyone on

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where staff conducted a digital literacy program

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that was that in Spanish and a consistent cohort of 15 seniors.

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This workshop was five weeks long

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and at the end upon completion of the workshops,

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all the seniors received free Chromebooks.

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Also out of our Santa Paula office,

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we partner with Chase Bank,

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that hosts financial literacy workshops.

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We also partner with Ventera County Credit Union,

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where they do those workshops in Fillmore

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in the public library,

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but also includes participants from Santa Paula in Fillmore.

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Another important workshop that we do

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out of our Santa Paula satellite office

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This is our mental wellness workshops.

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Our first connection to Santa Paula was our mental wellness workshops and we started

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doing those twice a year and as soon as we opened up our satellite office, we started

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doing them twice a month.

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Additionally, one of our staff members, Maria Jimenez, coordinates monthly meetings for

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a women's group that talks about, they focus on community issues.

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recently started a new program, and it is a medical enrollment navigator program.

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This is in partnership with Gold Coast Health Plan, and we have a dedicated staff that

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is stationed at our Santa Paula office, and she services our Santa Clara River Valley.

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She can also be found at the East Campus of Inter our College on Wednesdays, and she also

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takes appointments.

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In partnership with Food Forward, as Susie mentioned, our food hub provides produce to

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food pantries in Santa Paula, like, for example, both at Boopalard's pantry, and that's

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twice a month, and it roughly serves up to 150 residents in Santa Paula.

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And we also distribute food to love without borders.

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Additionally, we distribute diapers and baby formula, depending on the amount of donations

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that we get and we try to do those like semi-alignly or on an annual basis.

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I did mention in our mission statement partnerships are key.

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Obviously we can't try to take everything on and we have amazing partners

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throughout the county who are already doing some of the work.

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So we are not part of our community needs assessment was also about not duplicating services

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and making sure we were filling gaps versus duplication.

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So these are just some of the partners that we're working with.

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Again, we've mentioned that food have with food forward, the credit unions, the banks.

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Broadband, we just hosted a focus group around broadband, some of the barriers, opportunities

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for the plan that's going to go more at the county level, but we did host.

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We were a part to see if we could host those for Santa Paula in Oxford to really get the

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community involvement.

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So those in Santa Paula actually was conducted in Spanish earlier last month to get some

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of that feedback. We are picturing Maria Jimenez, who I think a lot of community members are

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familiar with. She initially started with us as a volunteer. So she was our connection here in

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Santa Paula. Hey, we're going to host this. Hey, can you get the word out? Once we had some additional

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funding come through, we were able to hire her on part time. So that's been an amazing

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I hope whenever we do host any of those groups or additional workshops, she's able to help us get that word out. And also, we have joined the Isabella Project, which I know is very important here in Santa Paula. So, we are part of the Isabella Project and working through that.

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And that is it. So, I don't know if I can take for any questions or can't submit a classified. So, if there were community members who saw this presentation or see it in replay,

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on Channel 10 and are wondering about getting connected with your services, what would be the best

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way for them to do that? Definitely come into our satellite office here. So again, it said 113 North

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Mills Street. They can also call in our main number is the they can call our main number in Oxford

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and so they can also get directed that way. Right now we do have a medical enrollment staff who is

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here full time, so between her and Maria Jimenez,

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they're able to answer questions or let them know

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when the next staff member who's specific to any program

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can be here and meet with them

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and we can set up appointments with them.

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My name is Mary Chavez.

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Thank you, Mary Cornelius.

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Thank you so much for sharing the information tonight,

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especially the slideshow that shows

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how many Santa Paula residents were able to access

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the lip wall program.

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Has there been any updates regarding that,

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making a return in the future?

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I know we that had a significant impact here. I know that we work with your staff to make

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that provide the community center as a place where we can help people fill out a 13-page

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application. I think sometimes very difficult for many to navigate that. But do you have any

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insight regarding that problem because it's very effective? I think it was meant to be a

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time with the idea of because of COVID, right? But everything is still, the need is still there.

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We're even struggling with funding. We received the same funding and then the need is still high.

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We're in the past three years. We had received CARES money, ARPA money, and we were able to use that.

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So now we're really re-focusing on prioritizing who is coming through and prioritizing. I mean,

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We're meant to prioritize families with households with children under five, seniors, people with disabilities as they come in for help with that.

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But with the water, it was asked if community actions were willing to take on if it did come back around and we said yes.

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But I think it was at the state level of that decision kind of where it was going to go.

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So we're more than willing because we still, you know, are trying to connect or learn, like who else is there a church?

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Is there another group doing some water assistance? Where can we refer people?

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So we try to keep an update a list to see where we can send anyone.

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But unfortunately, as of right now, we haven't been told that it

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like a timeline or one it would happen if it does happen.

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Again, I appreciate you and the staff that work diligently to provide these opportunities for our residents.

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It really made a difference in our community here.

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as we saw over 200 families were impacted and assisted.

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And I also want to thank the staff and city council

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because this program was completely different

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from our electricity and gas.

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Electricity and gas, we just deal with Edison

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and Southern California gas.

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With the water, we had to connect

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with every water district company.

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And so not every city signed on to work with us

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right from the beginning.

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It was kind of like a, do you know someone

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can the state connect with them?

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They had to kind of sign in

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and signed up to work with us and then that was the urgency of disconnection right so having that

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communication with staff of yes they did come in please don't disconnect we're processing but it's

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Friday at 3 p.m. So having that open communication was key in serving Santa Paula because throughout

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we're going to I would give reports every week of like what city signed on there were certain cities

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that were not on that list and I'm like people are coming because we're promoting we're venture

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But if that water company or district was not on our list, we couldn't serve that resident and trying to explain that to the resident was a little difficult. So I also really want to thank you because it wasn't just the need.

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It was also being able to work with the cities or the districts to get that process out. And when we looked at the data, I don't know if you looked at the top three.

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It's Oxnard, we had an office in Oxnard, Santa Paula, we have an office here, and we also have a center light office out of Simea.

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And that was also one of the top ones, so we did look at that as well.

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And I just want to give kudos to our city manager as well as director Ramirez, because it was instrumental for us to be flexible and

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working that to ensure that our water cutoffs didn't happen because the applications were in process with the state.

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Thank

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you very much for your presentation and we appreciate that all that you've done for a city thing.

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Thank you, and continue to do.

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Okay, we move on to 70, community and economic development department, quarterly report, director James Mason.

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Thank you, mayor and council.

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As you probably well know, like every anyone that's in town, there's a lot going on. But just want to give you some highlights of things. Right now in planning with 28 active projects and we say planning that those are either entitlement projects or just the beginning of development.

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and that could be probably a differentiation between planning and building, building could

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be a water heater, planning is going to be something that's actually going to change

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a site or development.

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Big initiatives really, as you well know, we're going to be working

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on code updates, the development code is going to be a big portion of that, and then specific

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plans, I'll talk about that a little bit later. Building and safety, weekly we are at plus

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That's a minus 60 inspections.

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When I did this presentation put this together last week, we just jumped up to about 20 inspections a day now.

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And that's both small developments and improvements to homes and businesses around town.

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But a big portion of that is what's happening at Harvest right now.

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If you have a chance to drive through there, I'm sure Vice Mayor Chavis has that chance to drive through there.

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there's the speed that those houses is going up is pretty amazing and then 12

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permits issued a week and 17 plan checks a week and it's exciting to have

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not only the engaged and competent staff that we have right now but it's just

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exciting to actually have staff right now to be able to do this level work because

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there's a lot of demands. Code compliance. I can't just ask that you're still not

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We're fully staffed though, correct?

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Correct.

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But you have gains in privacy.

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Yeah, great, thank you.

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Code compliance, active closing out code cases.

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One thing, we have 102 active code cases of those active ones.

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We've had one close in this last quarter, but what I should qualify is we have code

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cases that come up every week that are opened and closed before they're really actively

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opened as a case.

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It's one thing we appreciate about the community is when people are aware of non-compliance.

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They're generally very responsive and take care of that.

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The challenge that we've had just want to clarify and quantify.

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We did hire a full-time code inspector with hopes of starting to get a handle on those 102

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active cases.

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And with this incredible increase in development, especially in harvest right now, we're

439
00:37:58,010 --> 00:38:00,770
just barely able to keep up with the inspections.

440
00:38:01,430 --> 00:38:04,650
So that's really taken a little bit of hit on our code person

441
00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:07,030
because he's backing up those inspections.

442
00:38:08,330 --> 00:38:10,110
Development engineering, as you know,

443
00:38:10,290 --> 00:38:12,090
contract services with M6 and Wildand.

444
00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:15,550
Economic development, business as usual

445
00:38:15,550 --> 00:38:17,390
will collaborate with the city manager's office,

446
00:38:17,590 --> 00:38:18,670
PBIT and the team member of commerce.

447
00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:21,570
And also with the EDC, the economic development collaborative.

448
00:38:21,970 --> 00:38:24,690
And they've been really helpful in both making connections

449
00:38:24,690 --> 00:38:26,650
with businesses that are interested in the area.

450
00:38:26,650 --> 00:38:30,970
Yeah, our big growth opportunity right now is really an economic development.

451
00:38:31,770 --> 00:38:37,730
On the one side, as we have growth in employment is retail and services.

452
00:38:38,430 --> 00:38:42,670
But on the other side is we have, at least for our town, our size.

453
00:38:42,670 --> 00:38:49,390
We have more industrial land per capita and per size of our town than any other city within Ventura County.

454
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:52,450
And the demand for industrial property is very high.

455
00:38:52,450 --> 00:38:56,950
So our hopes are to be able to attract those jobs and we're working actively to do that.

456
00:38:58,750 --> 00:39:12,670
Kind of just go over this quickly, you're well aware, we have planning commission, economic development, standing committee, housing and homeless standing committee, development agreement, ad hoc committee, cannabis standing committee, affordable housing, trust fund, oversight committee, brand new committee, we'll be meeting within the next week to 10 days.

457
00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:17,730
So kind of a lot of groups, but it keeps us moving.

458
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:24,290
I mentioned a lot of these before, all of these are moving forward and they're really close

459
00:39:24,290 --> 00:39:25,210
to the finish line.

460
00:39:25,810 --> 00:39:31,930
Industrial shell building at Bender Industrial, they're just finishing up some of their

461
00:39:31,930 --> 00:39:40,070
approvals from the fire department on that and they'll hopefully be going vertical before

462
00:39:40,070 --> 00:39:42,050
the end of this year on that space.

463
00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:46,350
It's going to take some time, it's tilts up concrete building so that takes a little

464
00:39:46,350 --> 00:39:50,150
a little bit more on site development.

465
00:39:50,490 --> 00:39:53,370
Santa Maria Industrial Park, Santa Paula RV Storage

466
00:39:53,370 --> 00:39:56,850
and Santa Paula Self Storage 2, they're finishing up

467
00:39:56,850 --> 00:39:59,970
what has been a long process of getting FEMA approved.

468
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:09,900
And our hope is to have that finished up probably by the end of this month, which will allow them to start doing some of the vertical development that they need to do on the site.

469
00:40:12,020 --> 00:40:29,680
Action pack just found out that there, as a business, there's been some decline in their business and demand for what they do. They manufacture a manufacturing, packaging manufacturing machinery. And they're recalibrating what they're going to do at their site.

470
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,340
they may be downsizing, they may be selling, so we'll see what happens moving forward.

471
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,960
ARP is expanding, Ben Pack, we've talked about this before, that's one of our biggest opportunities,

472
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:45,280
it's 230,000 square feet total in Santa Paula, they're slowly moving out of Santa Paula,

473
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,660
and we're working to try and backfill that space as quickly as they move out.

474
00:40:50,260 --> 00:40:55,560
And we're excited about that because I think and believe this is one of our best opportunities

475
00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:01,320
to turn mostly warehouse space into manufacturing space and more jobs than just storage.

476
00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:08,220
And in Santa Paula West Business Park, we just got some of the finalization from Lafko

477
00:41:08,220 --> 00:41:10,520
as far as all questions have been answered.

478
00:41:11,340 --> 00:41:16,040
And we're hoping to go to the next Lafko board, I hope, if not the next one, the one after

479
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,220
that.

480
00:41:16,340 --> 00:41:19,660
I think we've checked all the boxes, so I'm pretty excited about that.

481
00:41:22,660 --> 00:41:28,500
Downtown activity in the last quarter, gun smoke is, I got coming soon on there, they're up and running.

482
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:34,920
Lots of rosas still working on their event center.

483
00:41:34,940 --> 00:41:39,420
Event center space, took a while, they had a lot of seismic retrofit on that.

484
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,380
And that's a good lesson, I'm trying to remember, I think it might have been,

485
00:41:44,780 --> 00:41:49,820
Vice Mayor Chavez mentioned this before, I think, about just lessons learned

486
00:41:49,820 --> 00:41:53,000
and being able to get businesses together, and that's a really good example.

487
00:41:53,140 --> 00:41:58,200
The seismic retrofits, that's a hurdle that some folks are afraid to address.

488
00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:03,180
And I think being able to get some of these folks together and talk with their contractors about how do you do it?

489
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,140
How do you make that happen?

490
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:12,020
That's one of the biggest hurdles we have in downtown development is how do you make these buildings current and do it affordably?

491
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:16,760
Park 1055, if you have a chance to drive by there on the corner of Ohio Street and

492
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,780
In Maine, it's getting really close to finish.

493
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:24,280
Their patio is looking pretty amazing, hopefully in the next 60 days to open.

494
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:29,980
And then a good orchard cafe and event center, they're just about done with everything

495
00:42:29,980 --> 00:42:31,460
as far as all their permits.

496
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,280
They should be starting work on that pretty soon.

497
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,640
They've done some preliminary demo inside the building, but that is exciting to have another

498
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,840
space, both for event and for food and beverage.

499
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:49,800
And then on the East Area Gateway over towards Harvest, to Harvest Medical Bavillion Development,

500
00:42:50,740 --> 00:42:55,540
kind of waiting with Bated Breath to see what happens with the hospital decision and how

501
00:42:55,540 --> 00:42:58,460
that links to the medical offices there.

502
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:04,980
They are still moving forward with the plan check and design for that medical office.

503
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,320
So we're moving forward with that.

504
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,760
McGailic Finch property, that's the retail property across from Harvest.

505
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,240
just still in discussions with them.

506
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:23,080
We plan to have their plans submitted within the next probably two weeks or less, and tenants and that yet to be determined.

507
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:27,880
There have been some challenges in the retail market of just attracting tenants, but we'll see where we go on that.

508
00:43:28,420 --> 00:43:38,740
And in the East Triangle property, I expect when council gets back from break, we should have a proposal and a discussion regarding a development of that site.

509
00:43:38,740 --> 00:43:44,340
some of the kind of preface to that is looking at some retail and looking at

510
00:43:45,340 --> 00:43:48,520
electric vehicle charging stations is the proposal that we have right now.

511
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,120
So we'll see where we go from there.

512
00:43:51,780 --> 00:44:01,820
Those are the sites, but really quickly on harvest as you know phase one is all been closed out.

513
00:44:01,820 --> 00:44:09,320
Phase 1D which is what I was talking about, that's the 121 units are going up very quickly.

514
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:15,060
I think right now they've got somewhere between 35 and 40 units that are up out of the

515
00:44:15,060 --> 00:44:22,480
ground and they did last weekend before last, they did their ribbon cutting, grand opening

516
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,100
of the models.

517
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,260
Phase 2, the tentative maps are approved, designs are underway, they're going to start site work

518
00:44:29,260 --> 00:44:30,240
there very soon.

519
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:34,420
And if they go at the speed that 1D and it's all the NAR on phase two,

520
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:42,600
it'll be a really interesting two years as far as how much development because that's over 500 homes up on the hillside.

521
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:54,020
And Halleck Center in phase three, we're working on that which includes duplex and some other development sports park.

522
00:44:54,020 --> 00:44:59,800
just waiting on finishing site work and sign off on...

523
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,880
City acceptance, main thing is, as you well know, I'm heard from our parks and rec director, Mr. Barnes, that waiting for turf and some of the other aspects of that to just be finalized. Bridge negotiations still continue for the Santa Paula Creek Bridge. There just seems to be hiccups with the core of engineers and working with watershed. Kind of have all hands on deck working on that. I believe our next step is also to work

524
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,560
through our supervisor's office to hopefully keep that moving.

525
00:45:34,180 --> 00:45:39,660
It's more than just about fish, it's about people in a city encirculation.

526
00:45:39,820 --> 00:45:41,020
We really need to keep that moving.

527
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,620
Housing development citywide, people's place, they are really close.

528
00:45:48,740 --> 00:45:50,620
They're waiting for Edison activation.

529
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,880
They hope to be moving people in within the next 60 days.

530
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:03,560
date for a grand opening, we'll get that to you with some good leeway so Council can attend that.

531
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,320
That's an exciting project and opportunity.

532
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:12,340
11th Street Town Homes getting ready to do site work on that within the next 30 to 60 days.

533
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:19,400
And then senior housing you can see at 603's main street, they've already started to clear out the retail on that site.

534
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,520
So that'll be starting very soon also.

535
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:28,260
So, Faulkner Hall, residential rehab, that's adjacent to the Methodist Church, which was the Good Orchard Cafe.

536
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:35,320
As soon as they finish up on the Good Orchard Cafe, they're going to continue that.

537
00:46:35,340 --> 00:46:38,720
It's 14 affordable units in that Faulkner Hall.

538
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:47,400
Redtail, we've kind of gone through that, waiting to see in August if they've got their state funding, and we'll keep moving with that.

539
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:55,500
And the K-Mart site, we're looking at demolition in September and site work to begin at the beginning of the year.

540
00:46:56,580 --> 00:47:04,760
So 224 units still working with them on the actual plan and how many affordable units based on our inclusionary housing, it would be 35.

541
00:47:05,180 --> 00:47:09,300
So we'll see how that and those are town homes that will be for rent.

542
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:16,860
Permit and the activity, this is really interesting and I think perplexing in some ways.

543
00:47:16,860 --> 00:47:24,260
But if you notice, we've had challenges getting revenue from the standpoint of projects that we expected to come in.

544
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,760
We've had a lot of small projects.

545
00:47:26,260 --> 00:47:35,820
The challenge that we've had prior to this year in the last quarter is we just did not have the staff to be able to keep processing permits.

546
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:39,860
They would start backing up because we don't have enough time and enough people in the office.

547
00:47:39,860 --> 00:48:09,840
And that's so what we've done in the last quarter we've actually rotated putting all hands on deck so we've put people from planning and our building inspector and our code inspector assisting with getting permits out and that's making phone calls having people coming in and getting checks so you notice a dramatic jump and a lot of that's been the the pressure of what we faced as far as you know finances coming into the end of this fiscal year going into the next one we want to try and be able

548
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,800
more efficient in how we can get these out.

549
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,320
Mr. Mason, I think Vice Mayor has a question.

550
00:48:14,660 --> 00:48:16,120
Yeah, I have a question in regards to that.

551
00:48:16,220 --> 00:48:21,560
It looks like staffing issues are somewhat created a bottleneck now in terms of processing these permits

552
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,660
and these permits lead to jobs, potentially revenue sources.

553
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,040
Have you considered short-term employment opportunities so we can push that along so

554
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,320
that you don't take away staff that might be key in other areas?

555
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:44,040
And that's, if you remember, we had the city gates kind of audit of ideas, and that was one of the things that they highly recommended.

556
00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:52,620
So we will work with what we have, and it's a balance between what we have budget availability for.

557
00:48:52,940 --> 00:48:59,500
And that's not just our department, but citywide, that we have a maintain that balance, and do the best it can with what we have.

558
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,900
But that's definitely something we're looking at.

559
00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:05,160
And a lot of that, it's not singular.

560
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:11,500
We have plan checks that need to get process that have revenue coming in.

561
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,440
We have building permits that need to be processed that revenue coming in.

562
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:21,040
We have consultants and projects that need to be paid for going through.

563
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:26,680
So there's a lot of different moving parts that, when one ramps up, the other ones ramp down.

564
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:34,640
And then to your point, inspections and other things code, it also involves revenue based on citations.

565
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:35,720
So there's a lot of layers.

566
00:49:36,420 --> 00:49:53,040
And I think it's working through in the next couple of weeks we're going to be kind of working as city staff to look at those recommendations from city gate and look at an implementation plan that can help us get there with the budget we have and with the staff that we have.

567
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:59,980
And then we'll move to where we can from there, but I'm really proud of what the folks are doing with what we have.

568
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:31,260
We're doing a great job. Thank you. And then lemonwood business park. That's, again, that's action pack and ben pack. There's some great activity happening back there. Santa Paula materials as. Got interest actually has control of property at the back of lemonwood and dov court and they're doing expansion of their facility back there. And there's I would say every week I am talking to either a developer or

569
00:50:31,260 --> 00:50:35,920
a business that's interested in properties back there, so it's just finding the right fit

570
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,520
and someone that will pull the trigger.

571
00:50:38,340 --> 00:50:42,440
One other thing I want to mention on the economic development side is actually more in the housing

572
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:51,420
side, but I have been here just about nine years and I have never seen the level of activity

573
00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:56,880
in real estate as far as interest in people wanting to sell and interest in people wanting

574
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:02,540
to develop. And it's kind of exciting because one of the challenges you have in small towns is

575
00:51:02,540 --> 00:51:08,120
people have family trusts and have property that they've owned for generations and they're not

576
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,800
really sure what they want to do with it. And right now we're having people that are motivated and

577
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,320
interested and people that are from out of town that are motivated and interested. So it's creating

578
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,880
some great opportunities. So you just have to stay on it and keep it moving. I've got good

579
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,980
relationships with brokers and I hope great things in this coming year.

580
00:51:28,090 --> 00:51:34,760
We talked about city gate and we'll be looking at process improvements in the implementation

581
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:41,920
plan. Hunt our city wayfinding program. We're meeting with them, believe next week to talk

582
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,820
about implementation and next steps and that will be providing some updates to council when

583
00:51:46,820 --> 00:51:47,420
and you come back.

584
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,420
Then city negotiations kind of gone through all of these.

585
00:51:52,580 --> 00:51:54,460
We're working on Palm Avenue sales right now.

586
00:51:54,460 --> 00:51:57,960
We're hoping to wrap those up by the end of this month.

587
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:02,580
And as you saw, temporary fire station is all up

588
00:52:02,580 --> 00:52:05,180
and they're getting ready to demo within the next couple

589
00:52:05,180 --> 00:52:06,560
of weeks the old fire station.

590
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:12,550
And trying to wrap up permit coordination

591
00:52:12,550 --> 00:52:16,230
for the security fencing and improvements at City Hall

592
00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:21,270
and the police station and other facility improvements around the city.

593
00:52:26,090 --> 00:52:48,010
One other thing I want to mention, we are working with homeless facility operations funding with spirit, and we had a meeting this past week, our new management analyst, Cesar Hernandez, and I met with a group of affordable builders and for housing, and

594
00:52:48,010 --> 00:53:13,230
And operations management, so we had about eight different individuals representing companies to talk about what we can do around spirit on the triangle piece that we bought and other vacant properties in that area to try and look at not only sheltering but transitional housing and permanent housing that provides a continuum of all that we're coming out of the ground that we can think about all the how all these things work together.

595
00:53:13,230 --> 00:53:18,630
Just real quickly, one of the challenges that we've had in getting grants is we are so

596
00:53:19,410 --> 00:53:24,730
landlocked and so locked as far as where people are in living spaces that for us to be

597
00:53:24,730 --> 00:53:28,370
able to make transitions of moving people out, there's no place for them to go.

598
00:53:28,570 --> 00:53:30,530
Good example is the Santa Paula Motel.

599
00:53:30,690 --> 00:53:34,250
We'd like to do something with that property, but there's people living there and if we

600
00:53:34,250 --> 00:53:36,230
do something with that, there's no place for them to go.

601
00:53:36,650 --> 00:53:40,890
So as we start to have things like people's self-help and red tail, it'll give us an inventory

602
00:53:40,890 --> 00:53:50,690
That will provide a continuum that will give us everything from homeless and farm worker to market re-housing and provide people an opportunity not only to move but to move up.

603
00:53:51,930 --> 00:53:55,590
With that, we'll entertain any questions. I appreciate the opportunity.

604
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,540
That's what it was. I'm going to ask someone to maybe close that door.

605
00:54:01,540 --> 00:54:03,940
Mr. Minneskin, thank you for your report.

606
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,640
Sir, I'll come back to Code Compliance, and we realize that you're short staff,

607
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:12,440
but how are you in staffing on your Code Compliance?

608
00:54:12,660 --> 00:54:17,720
And you mentioned that for those that aren't in compliance, you have general response.

609
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,960
For those that aren't, does that Code Enforcement Officer wear a lot of hats?

610
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:27,680
Or is that the only thing that person does and how much follow-up is there to the violations?

611
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:36,940
Well, we have the person who's doing the field calls, and we also have staff in house that's writing letters whether it's a planning violation or a building and safety violation.

612
00:54:37,460 --> 00:54:45,180
So we've got several that are kind of longstanding and a couple that are very challenging.

613
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:55,720
And in this past week, past two weeks, we've had probably four that we've issued citations that may lead to, I don't want to say threat.

614
00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:59,940
but that leads to, I'll leave.

615
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:28,840
On the property that the next step will be a lien on their property if they don't comply. So that's, and the challenge we have is through, to document and go through the process, we generally have about a 30-day cycle working through, through things, 30 days citation, 30 days notification and working through that. And the documentation allows us to take that final step. Every situation I've had since I've been here, that's dealt with a lien on the property.

616
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:35,280
there's either been compliance or if it was a tenant they were evicted and then it was cleaned

617
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:40,540
up so I have a really good track record on that the challenge is it takes time to make sure

618
00:55:40,540 --> 00:55:46,000
it's documented and done correctly hope that helps answer yeah and we realize it's a qualitative

619
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:52,320
life issue so the longer it takes the less it seems like we're reactive to the concerns so thank you

620
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:52,600
Thank you for that.

621
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:53,040
Thanks.

622
00:55:55,210 --> 00:55:55,950
Can someone request?

623
00:55:58,310 --> 00:56:01,030
So the couple of things.

624
00:56:01,510 --> 00:56:03,090
One is just a clarification.

625
00:56:03,970 --> 00:56:10,610
It mentions in the staff report that the Regional Housing Needs Assessment 6-cycle, it

626
00:56:10,610 --> 00:56:14,090
refers to it as the SCAG 6-cycle.

627
00:56:14,650 --> 00:56:18,830
It should be the Housing and Community Development Department of the State.

628
00:56:19,950 --> 00:56:25,210
and then SCAG, yes, is part of the process of dividing it up, but the numbers come from

629
00:56:25,650 --> 00:56:31,850
HCD. So I just want to make sure that as we go forward, that even though both entities

630
00:56:31,850 --> 00:56:39,790
are involved, that SCAG doesn't get the blame for what happens with the cycle numbers because

631
00:56:39,790 --> 00:56:45,690
it's actually the state that sends those down. So I'm sure you know that, but I just wanted

632
00:56:45,690 --> 00:56:47,510
and to make sure that as we refer to it,

633
00:56:47,590 --> 00:56:49,870
we don't refer to it as the scag green of it.

634
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:52,770
It's the HCB from the state that issues it.

635
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:58,930
And then in terms of the bridge, do you know,

636
00:56:59,250 --> 00:57:01,010
so that means that it won't be this year.

637
00:57:01,410 --> 00:57:02,330
They won't be able to start

638
00:57:02,330 --> 00:57:04,950
because they're gonna run into the same problem

639
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:08,570
that VCTC's run into where if you don't start early enough

640
00:57:08,570 --> 00:57:10,790
in the year, you can't get it finished

641
00:57:10,790 --> 00:57:12,910
and then there's all of the runoff in the winter,

642
00:57:12,910 --> 00:57:17,910
which means we're looking at at least 2025 for that construction starting, correct?

643
00:57:18,350 --> 00:57:20,570
As it stands now, there's still a window.

644
00:57:21,150 --> 00:57:22,030
There's still a chance.

645
00:57:22,350 --> 00:57:27,950
What it comes down to is the reason they need to be in that window, which is May to

646
00:57:27,950 --> 00:57:32,310
October, so we're halfway through it, is just enough time to be able to build

647
00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:38,810
supports within the floodway that will allow them to support the bridge while it's being built.

648
00:57:38,810 --> 00:57:45,570
So we're waiting, we won't we won't know until time lapses.

649
00:57:45,570 --> 00:57:51,210
So they're still hoping that there will be enough time to get those supports in before the winter window closes.

650
00:57:52,190 --> 00:57:53,710
But otherwise it would be a year, yes.

651
00:57:54,090 --> 00:58:00,290
And is there any sort of pre-manufacturing that they can do, or does everything have to be built on site?

652
00:58:01,390 --> 00:58:03,130
Not sure, how they're doing that.

653
00:58:03,130 --> 00:58:21,970
And then just a comment on the medical pavilion, hopefully we can keep engaged with the county on that to make sure that that does in fact move forward to any extent that we can be involved in encouraging that.

654
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:23,450
Thank you.

655
00:58:27,020 --> 00:58:28,180
Thank you, Mr. Mason,

656
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,600
to you and your department because you've done a lot with less.

657
00:58:34,420 --> 00:58:40,460
Obviously, staffing has been an issue for the last several years and your department is

658
00:58:40,460 --> 00:58:43,080
really key to our success in the future.

659
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:49,300
And so, I know this council is committed to finding ways to provide you and your department

660
00:58:49,300 --> 00:58:56,120
the resources it needs so that we could push things along, especially because of the urgency

661
00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:01,320
with shortfalls in the future. I do have some questions that I wanted to ask you.

662
00:59:03,180 --> 00:59:10,120
You know, there's a nice sore on 12th Street and Harvard, and I brought it up several times before.

663
00:59:11,260 --> 00:59:15,780
What's being done there? Can you please inform our residents in terms of that status?

664
00:59:16,980 --> 00:59:24,280
We've provided multiple citations regarding graffiti and one thing I want to kind of

665
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:29,300
preface with one of the biggest challenges we have with a potential development site.

666
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:36,960
So they've submitted for plans for development of that site is that pressuring someone

667
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:43,600
or encouraging someone to do demo prior to them having a building permit based on bank

668
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:48,900
loans in that whole chain is challenging and that's the same thing with K-Mart.

669
00:59:49,140 --> 00:59:54,580
When you have sites that are an attractive nuisance, if there was nothing there, there'd be nothing to tag.

670
00:59:54,780 --> 00:59:57,040
That would be a whole lot better way to approach that.

671
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,860
that he's been general

672
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,280
It's really responsive on the tagging. It's just the day after it gets cleaned up. It's the next day, and then it's a couple of weeks before it gets done again.

673
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:18,320
That, I don't know how much detail I can go in based on citations, but did the citations have been-

674
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,780
What's the enforcement mechanism we have currently when we have a property of that nature?

675
01:00:22,860 --> 01:00:30,540
It's a notification followed by citation, followed by action that would involve both fine and

676
01:00:30,540 --> 01:00:35,120
alien on the property, and that's, and we've been following that process.

677
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,620
And so it's in process in terms of making sure there's some sort of enforcement.

678
01:00:39,140 --> 01:00:39,240
Correct.

679
01:00:39,780 --> 01:00:40,760
Okay, thanks.

680
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:46,440
The triangle property, Mr. Mason, we purchased, I was at last year, or this year.

681
01:00:48,260 --> 01:00:51,740
Just maintains that property, and we own it.

682
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:52,720
We do.

683
01:00:53,340 --> 01:00:53,580
Okay.

684
01:00:53,940 --> 01:00:55,700
And I think it was just taking care of just great.

685
01:00:56,140 --> 01:00:56,540
Thank you.

686
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,860
Because it's a nice or when we see all the weeds that I've been growing in that corner,

687
01:01:00,860 --> 01:01:02,260
it's definitely a gateway.

688
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,380
Councilmember Crossright mentioned the issue regarding the bridge harvest.

689
01:01:09,260 --> 01:01:15,680
You know, there's been conversations and concerns regarding safety in terms of residents being

690
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:21,180
being able to exit harvest because there's only one entry into harvest currently.

691
01:01:22,140 --> 01:01:27,380
With the new housing being built at a speedy rate, and that's because it's private development,

692
01:01:27,580 --> 01:01:27,680
right?

693
01:01:27,700 --> 01:01:29,920
It's not like we're putting the money, flipping the bill for that.

694
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:38,080
But are there population requirements that are going to go into play since we have this

695
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,060
expansion of housing in that community?

696
01:01:40,060 --> 01:01:48,220
And if so, how is that going to go or fall in line with that bridge?

697
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,380
That's an excellent question.

698
01:01:51,140 --> 01:02:05,380
We have the 121 units plus about 200 of the foothill is the maximum that they'll be able to build without that bridge.

699
01:02:05,380 --> 01:02:20,460
So, that becomes a little bit of a linchpin in development for harvest, so without that bridge and the timing of that development, that conceivably mean that harvest stalls, so it's really important.

700
01:02:21,500 --> 01:02:29,720
And it's trying to get a gauge of how quickly that foothill will start, because that's the other thing is mobilizing and then having to stop.

701
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:38,280
They've got seven different plans that they're doing within that development, all done by Lunar, so they'll be working quickly.

702
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,140
So it's really important.

703
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,020
But you hit kind of the nail on the head.

704
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,920
It's a public safety issue more than anything else.

705
01:02:45,060 --> 01:02:46,480
How do we provide circulation?

706
01:02:48,580 --> 01:02:54,500
And they're doing improvements on 126, but that's not enough to get people in and out in the event of emergency.

707
01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:02,220
In the meantime, we do have an emergency access exit that will be available, and that's just about done, but it's not permanent.

708
01:03:02,660 --> 01:03:24,240
Yeah, Madam Mayor, if I can add to Mr. Mason's report there, there is a, as Mr. Mason just said, there is a second, secondary emergency access roadway that's being negotiated right now as a condition of the Ventura County Fire District fire evacuation.

709
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:24,280
end of the election.

710
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:25,140
I'm gonna do a presentation.

711
01:03:25,340 --> 01:03:25,860
Standards.

712
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:26,900
And they're taking into

713
01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:27,220
consideration.

714
01:03:27,340 --> 01:03:28,880
Also, when you open the

715
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,080
sports complex and you're

716
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:30,560
gonna have more

717
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:31,780
population in that area.

718
01:03:32,540 --> 01:03:32,620
Right.

719
01:03:33,540 --> 01:03:33,660
Okay.

720
01:03:34,020 --> 01:03:36,640
My other question is, you know,

721
01:03:36,660 --> 01:03:37,740
I brought up a previously

722
01:03:38,700 --> 01:03:40,500
looking at what other cities

723
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:42,340
do regarding vacant

724
01:03:42,340 --> 01:03:43,760
properties in terms of

725
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,000
ordinance, and I don't see

726
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,160
much on the presentation

727
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,320
today on that issue, but I

728
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,820
think it's a really a key

729
01:03:50,820 --> 01:03:52,260
issue that we need to, especially

730
01:03:52,260 --> 01:03:53,460
in our downtown area, if

731
01:03:53,460 --> 01:03:54,500
we're going to have a thriving downtown.

732
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,200
We really need to set some sort of standards

733
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,660
in regards to vacant properties

734
01:03:58,660 --> 01:04:00,740
because they're impacting the business next door.

735
01:04:00,940 --> 01:04:05,100
That's the, and they, I just want to express urgency

736
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:05,920
on that as well.

737
01:04:07,380 --> 01:04:09,560
Obviously the came art site, you mentioned already.

738
01:04:10,220 --> 01:04:14,040
You know, staffing, thank you again for doing a lot with last.

739
01:04:14,260 --> 01:04:15,440
There's a lot going on.

740
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,880
And if you look at all these projects and these timelines,

741
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,860
we're going to be in a very different place in two years

742
01:04:20,860 --> 01:04:29,700
if once we get these developments in place and so kudos to all the work that's being done.

743
01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:34,940
And also I invite our residents to go to our website and actually want to take this opportunity

744
01:04:34,940 --> 01:04:40,200
to see if the clerk can put the website online because this is really key for your department

745
01:04:40,900 --> 01:04:46,380
is all of the active projects that are happening with plans and you want to know what's happening.

746
01:04:46,380 --> 01:04:49,440
Go to the website and check out our community development.

747
01:04:49,860 --> 01:04:56,940
I want to see if we can put that website online now because there's a lot of projects happening here.

748
01:04:57,020 --> 01:04:58,020
It's exciting, right?

749
01:04:58,020 --> 01:04:59,980
And like

750
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:29,940
Again, if there are needs that your department has and working with city manager, if we have to reprioritize things to put resources behind these investments, the time is now because we're in the midst of going into the second year of our two year budget. So now's a time to make any recommendations and I just urge you if those recommendations exist that we as council can hear

751
01:05:29,940 --> 01:05:34,000
them in the near future.

752
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,860
And so if you go to departments, ladies and gentlemen, just

753
01:05:41,860 --> 01:05:44,340
click on departments up on top, Julie.

754
01:05:48,500 --> 01:05:50,140
And then you go to community economic development.

755
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,640
And I love it because it's been revamped. So now there's icons, right? So go to community

756
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,080
and economic development. Yeah. And click on that active projects.

757
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,840
And you can see the amazing

758
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,940
work that staff and the city is doing to make a community a better place to live.

759
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:14,100
And again, these are all things that are happening, moving parts.

760
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:19,680
I know people are impatient, I know there's a lot of questions, a lot of chatter.

761
01:06:20,380 --> 01:06:25,120
But if you want the answer, go to this website and know what's going on in our city in regards

762
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,140
to economic development.

763
01:06:26,300 --> 01:06:31,160
So I just wanted to point that out to you again and please share this council support for

764
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:36,660
for all the work that's being done in reimagining our community through community investment.

765
01:06:41,530 --> 01:06:42,390
Councillor Miller-Warris.

766
01:06:42,470 --> 01:06:47,290
Thank you. Thank you, Vice Mayor Chavez, for pointing out about the trying of property that we're responsible for.

767
01:06:47,510 --> 01:06:52,650
But there's other properties that are eye-sourced, but we have no responsibility for, but we know who owns them.

768
01:06:53,230 --> 01:06:56,950
For example, there's the property at 12th in Harvard, which is the old custom on Yonna site.

769
01:06:57,430 --> 01:07:01,810
I know we've gotten some emails about that and becoming a place for transients.

770
01:07:02,930 --> 01:07:07,130
It's one of the entrances to the city by South Mount Road, and it looks really bad.

771
01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:08,290
The other one is Kmart.

772
01:07:08,470 --> 01:07:10,350
That's one of the three major exits off the freeway.

773
01:07:10,750 --> 01:07:16,390
Toral is leasing or renting that property, and I don't know whether they have any say on how who maintains it.

774
01:07:16,690 --> 01:07:18,950
But it looks really bad, and Kmart looks really bad.

775
01:07:19,330 --> 01:07:23,790
And I realize that it's going to be demolished, but in the meantime, people get off the freeway, and that's what they see.

776
01:07:24,410 --> 01:07:29,290
I hope there's somewhere we can encourage or urge the property owners to keep it cleaner.

777
01:07:30,250 --> 01:07:30,470
Thank you.

778
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:31,630
Thank you

779
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:33,430
Council requested

780
01:07:34,830 --> 01:07:38,530
So going back to there was a sort of a question about the

781
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:45,150
Some of the work that the economic development standing committee because I know that it was listed in your power point

782
01:07:45,890 --> 01:07:51,490
Where where are some of the major what are some of the major things that the economic development standing committee?

783
01:07:51,790 --> 01:07:57,810
Has been working on and do you have any anticipation of when those items might be coming back to council probably the

784
01:07:57,810 --> 01:08:06,510
The two biggest items, one was already mentioned by the vice mayor, which is kind of vacant property and how to address within the central business district.

785
01:08:07,210 --> 01:08:12,190
So that's we've discussed that come up with some options that should be coming to council.

786
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:22,390
Probably we have one more committee meeting before I think before council meets again, and we'll probably have direction from that committee on what to bring to council.

787
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:40,430
Also, in that committee, for that next meeting, we're looking at the nexus between what we did a few years ago as far as a SWAT analysis and economic development strategic plan and dovetailing that with the council's strategic goals.

788
01:08:40,430 --> 01:08:46,850
So, as we go into the next kind of fiscal year and strategic goals, we start to have

789
01:08:46,850 --> 01:08:52,010
some things that link and have a plan that makes sense based on what community needs and

790
01:08:52,010 --> 01:08:53,790
demands are and what council's direction is.

791
01:08:54,870 --> 01:08:55,590
Thank you.

792
01:08:57,450 --> 01:09:05,370
I would just like to reiterate a couple of things that have been mentioned by the council

793
01:09:05,370 --> 01:09:17,640
already today and two of them are the work towards the Medical Center on the 126 and the bridge.

794
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:26,140
We've done a good bit of communications relationship building with other electeds,

795
01:09:26,700 --> 01:09:34,100
lobbying even with Washington with Congressman Brownlee working with the Army Corps of Engineers.

796
01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:38,620
So if more is needed, please call on us.

797
01:09:38,740 --> 01:09:46,840
We all stand ready to help move that along if whatever is needed because those are things that are deeply concerning and

798
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:53,440
stalling some of the progress in our city and if we can be of any help, that's just we stand ready.

799
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:59,960
So please staff and your department and everyone, just let us know who we can talk to or what meetings we need.

800
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:11,460
We need to make to move these things along. We'll do what we can. Okay, and we really appreciate all the worthier department. So please pass that on. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Mason.

801
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:33,020
Okay. We will move on to 7e, city manager's department report. Thank you, Madam Mayor, members of the council and the public. I don't have the benefit of a PowerPoint, but a number of accomplishments to highlight by members of the administrative function of the city,

802
01:10:33,020 --> 01:10:39,540
which include HR and IT and our clerk and our deputy city manager and fellows.

803
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:48,500
On the major initiative side, we're really pleased to celebrate the donation that Chevron

804
01:10:48,500 --> 01:10:55,820
made to our community, not just of the historic union oil building but of whole block of our

805
01:10:55,820 --> 01:11:01,360
downtown as well as the $2 million that we'll go into and endowment to help keep that building

806
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:01,620
up.

807
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:08,760
You had a presentation from the Ventura County Community Foundation about the Isabella

808
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:14,520
Project and our support for early childhood education. This has come about because of

809
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,340
essentially a grant, although it's not a monetary grant that we have with the National League

810
01:11:19,340 --> 01:11:25,040
of Cities, one of only nine communities in the whole country that have been selected to work

811
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:29,260
on this issue. So we're really pleased to be part of that and work with the school district

812
01:11:29,260 --> 01:11:35,720
and the whole Isabella team, and then finally that we've been part of work trying to

813
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:41,840
garner input and support from our residents about what we've called the Santa Paula Speaks

814
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:47,380
initiative to really better understand the community's priorities as we face decisions

815
01:11:47,380 --> 01:11:53,620
about possible funding and the council at your last meeting moved forward with placing

816
01:11:53,620 --> 01:12:00,840
a ballot measure on the November general election that will give our residents a chance

817
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:07,360
to decide if that's something that they're wanting to support and what that would do for

818
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:07,960
our community.

819
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,620
So there'll be a lot more initiatives in that respect.

820
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:17,660
Our deputy city manager, along with the fellows, was hard at work on a number of initiatives.

821
01:12:17,980 --> 01:12:22,380
I won't go into all of them there in your report, but I will highlight some of them, including

822
01:12:22,380 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaking of the Union oil building, the selection of tenants and that effort continues and is represented on the council by, I think, Councilmember Sobel and the mayor.

823
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:42,520
So we're making progress and expect to be back to you guys in August about that.

824
01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:46,800
The Clean Power Alliance transition is finally concluded.

825
01:12:47,780 --> 01:12:54,700
Councilwoman Crosswhite has been serving the city on that joint powers authority.

826
01:12:55,520 --> 01:13:03,520
92% of our community has transitioned to the Clean Power Alliance, so although they'll continue to get Edison bills,

827
01:13:04,340 --> 01:13:09,660
their power sources will actually come from 100% renewable energy through the CPA,

828
01:13:10,180 --> 01:13:15,580
or if they chose to go for a different tier that might be 50% renewable.

829
01:13:18,440 --> 01:13:25,300
We're pleased to kick off a new employee engagement program this year called Made in Santa

830
01:13:25,300 --> 01:13:25,640
Paul.

831
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:32,000
It stands for making a difference every day, engaging our employees in topics of importance

832
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:32,920
and getting their input.

833
01:13:33,580 --> 01:13:41,100
On the economic development side, we are launching with the economic development subcommittees support

834
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:44,700
Or a new program called Business Connect.

835
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:51,420
And this is an opportunity, primarily for the staff members or

836
01:13:51,420 --> 01:13:56,940
a member of the Chamber of Commerce, and also the mayor to sit down with some of our businesses.

837
01:13:57,540 --> 01:14:03,360
And so we've already reached out to eight or ten local businesses to make that invitation.

838
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:10,380
We'll see how many of them take us up on it, and it'll really give us an opportunity to understand what some of the business needs are in our community.

839
01:14:10,380 --> 01:14:17,520
what their challenges are, how we can be supportive, and help them, and what makes our community tick.

840
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:27,920
As you know, on tonight's agenda, you have the opportunity to take a step forward in some beautification efforts, and the Deputy City Manager,

841
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:37,940
working with our PBIT was instrumental, along with one of our fellows, who will be presenting tonight on selecting new trash cans for our downtown.

842
01:14:37,940 --> 01:14:42,600
town, you've already had a presentation on the wayfinding and new signage.

843
01:14:43,540 --> 01:14:50,540
On the grant side, two notable grants that we've secured $85,000 from VCTC for a new

844
01:14:50,540 --> 01:14:57,200
police vehicle, an incident response vehicle that we are now securing, and 20,000 in funding

845
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,420
to help with our broadband efforts.

846
01:15:00,590 --> 01:15:30,230
And then as you all know, on the legislative affairs side, both the mayor and Mr. Royus had an opportunity to go to Washington, D.C. Had some really meaningful meetings with our Congresswoman, our two state senator offices and merchant McIntyre who's our lobbyists in Washington, D.C. And has been successful in these last two years in securing federal funding and continues to

847
01:15:30,230 --> 01:15:34,270
to meet with encouraging opportunities in that regard.

848
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:55,290
We've also had the mayor and vice mayor meeting as we've tried to do every year with both our senator, state senator Monique Limone and assembly member Stephen Bennett as well as our board of supervisor representative Kelly Long.

849
01:15:55,290 --> 01:16:01,070
long. And you'll see in your staff report a number of support letters for legislation

850
01:16:01,070 --> 01:16:07,430
and opposition letters that have been written. And we continue to try and make our voice

851
01:16:07,430 --> 01:16:13,770
heard in Sacramento and Washington when it comes to matters that might affect our community.

852
01:16:15,770 --> 01:16:22,470
Our fellows have been, oh, and finally I should say, well, our fellows have done most of this.

853
01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:30,870
We have continued to try and keep the community informed about the Harvard Boulevard Project which is now finally coming to a conclusion.

854
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:37,730
Final chapter of that long awaited public improvement and paving is well underway.

855
01:16:38,270 --> 01:16:45,130
It's a bit of a mess this week, a little bit last week and will be somewhat next week before that is concluded.

856
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:49,690
But we're getting quite close and it's really great to see that coming together.

857
01:16:49,690 --> 01:16:57,170
Our fellows have been instrumental in creating and assisting with the establishment of our

858
01:16:57,170 --> 01:16:59,630
first ever future leaders academy.

859
01:17:00,650 --> 01:17:07,310
The 18 participants that went through that inaugural program just graduated this last

860
01:17:07,310 --> 01:17:14,250
Tuesday and we're pleased to already see many of them getting more involved in community

861
01:17:14,250 --> 01:17:20,730
and it's just really comforting to know people actually care to learn more about their

862
01:17:20,730 --> 01:17:24,570
community and what we do and how we do it and how we can be better at it, too.

863
01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:32,990
And our fellows have helped with a number of initiatives, again I won't go into too

864
01:17:32,990 --> 01:17:36,050
much detail, you'll hear about one of them tonight.

865
01:17:36,050 --> 01:17:47,470
On the human resource side, they have been busy helping with a number of trainings, traffic

866
01:17:47,470 --> 01:17:48,670
control, and flagging.

867
01:17:49,250 --> 01:17:53,410
We had a successful program on teamwork.

868
01:17:54,980 --> 01:18:02,450
We also had lunch and learn on coping with stress, kind of a personal wellness activity.

869
01:18:03,610 --> 01:18:10,270
and then did some Cinco de Mayo celebrating that all of you were at, we, things have slowed

870
01:18:10,270 --> 01:18:16,790
down finally a little bit on the recruitment side, so HR processed the recruiting efforts

871
01:18:16,790 --> 01:18:22,070
for four new positions and successfully hired four new employees to and police and to and

872
01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:28,570
public works, and we have other recruitments that are going on currently, but compared to

873
01:18:28,570 --> 01:18:38,030
The last quarter when we had, well, like 13 police employees and numerous others, it's

874
01:18:38,030 --> 01:18:40,330
nice to have things quiet down a little bit.

875
01:18:41,750 --> 01:18:48,190
Our IT folks have also been instrumental in completing some projects, getting communication

876
01:18:48,190 --> 01:18:56,830
systems out to East Area 1 where we have new water pumping and tanks, facilities moving

877
01:18:56,830 --> 01:19:02,490
the equipment on the new Mesa tanks and getting a set up because those are an important communication

878
01:19:02,490 --> 01:19:09,590
point for our town because of the location. And then also completing power and network

879
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:16,890
extensions to accommodate our police command post because our police department is about to get

880
01:19:17,550 --> 01:19:24,630
started with a number of site improvements and upgrades. And so we're having the temporary

881
01:19:24,630 --> 01:19:28,290
they relocate some of them to the trailer that we have out front.

882
01:19:28,850 --> 01:19:33,770
And so we've hooked them up into our computer network and made some other accommodations so

883
01:19:33,770 --> 01:19:37,290
that that can sit there in assistance to the department.

884
01:19:38,510 --> 01:19:46,030
And then finally, our city clerk has been busy in active process 14 different city council agendas

885
01:19:46,030 --> 01:19:51,950
and minutes attended for bid openings, process 69 public records requests.

886
01:19:53,910 --> 01:19:59,970
and has begun the election process for the November election, and finally, and...

887
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:29,540
Actually, probably most significantly is working with the consultant that we've hired an expert at helping us redo our whole records retention system. Our current records retention policy was adopted in 1999. They sang a song about that year. That was 25 years ago. It's in desperate need of updating. And so Julie is spearheading that effort. And we'll look forward to bringing that to council for approval.

888
01:20:29,540 --> 01:20:36,760
And then most importantly, moving forward with the disposal of a lot of records we don't need to keep

889
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:45,120
and doing a better job of documenting and keeping records that we do, so more to come on that.

890
01:20:45,740 --> 01:20:47,800
That concludes kind of where we've been at.

891
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:53,200
I'm sure I missed a number of things, but just wanted to give you that update and take any questions.

892
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,260
Thank you, Mr. Sanger, I see Vice Mayor.

893
01:20:56,260 --> 01:21:03,700
Yes. Thank you, Mayor Cornel. Mr. Singer, can you share, you know, we just went through a public

894
01:21:04,740 --> 01:21:09,380
crisis with our water system. I think it's helpful to share

895
01:21:11,860 --> 01:21:18,340
what took place as a way to inform our residents. And I know there's an agenda item for

896
01:21:18,340 --> 01:21:23,320
a consent item, but I think coming from you as our leader here that runs city operations,

897
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:43,460
it would be helpful for you to give information to our community about what took place and how we're going to prevent something like that from taking place in the future, because if it takes one idiot to shut down half the water system in our city, then our system is not functioning, and I'd really want to hear from your leadership on this.

898
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:53,060
I appreciate that I had it noted as part of my regular city manager's report, so I can either do it then or do it now, whatever your choice, whatever.

899
01:21:53,220 --> 01:21:53,600
Whatever it is.

900
01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:55,040
We'd like to hear from you on it.

901
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:59,120
Would you prefer to do it as part of your report as or now?

902
01:21:59,460 --> 01:22:03,560
I can do it now unless Chief Aguilar, were you going to cover much of that?

903
01:22:04,540 --> 01:22:04,660
Good.

904
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:11,900
Then let me do that now just because it is such an important topic.

905
01:22:11,900 --> 01:22:17,620
right so I'm sure most of the public has been tuned in to the fact that last

906
01:22:17,620 --> 01:22:22,680
week we discovered a breach of our main reservoir which exists up off of

907
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:29,700
10th Street you know as a water agency we are subject to the regulations of

908
01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:38,480
the State Department of Water Resources and they force us essentially to go

909
01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:44,620
through them both for any questions about water quality and water safety and reliability

910
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:52,340
as well as how we message that. So they dictate what we need to do when we come across any type of

911
01:22:53,080 --> 01:23:00,540
crisis. That could be as simple as a rupture in a mainline where we think there's been intrusion.

912
01:23:01,340 --> 01:23:07,860
And so there's maybe a boil water notice or a significant shutoff of water to a group of

913
01:23:07,860 --> 01:23:14,060
customers. But in this case it was quite unique and it's funny because I've heard stories

914
01:23:14,060 --> 01:23:19,220
about how that reservoir didn't use to have a cover on it and people in town used to

915
01:23:19,220 --> 01:23:25,920
actually go and swim in there. Long are those days gone. It's now covered with security

916
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:34,760
fencing. But as you noted, Vice Mayor, there was a breach of that. And what became quickly

917
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:41,500
clearly clear to our staff and our police was that it looked like a person had either been inside the reservoir,

918
01:23:41,820 --> 01:23:48,400
at least had some clothing items outside of it, and some of those were floating in the water.

919
01:23:48,620 --> 01:23:51,040
So we were quick to respond to that.

920
01:23:51,780 --> 01:24:02,000
You know, not surprisingly when it comes to water safety and water reliability, the Department of Water Resources and the city take those very seriously.

921
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:16,980
So out of an abundant of caution in terms of the state's direction, we quickly shut down the reservoir so no waters were leaving that.

922
01:24:18,440 --> 01:24:21,260
And that's, I should point out that that's already treated water.

923
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:27,260
So that reservoir is holding treated water. It's not like a lake that's just water storage.

924
01:24:27,260 --> 01:24:31,360
So that water that was treated is going into the water system.

925
01:24:31,860 --> 01:24:33,700
So we shut down the use of it.

926
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:39,820
We obviously the police immediately were searching for this person that we thought existed.

927
01:24:40,340 --> 01:24:45,720
We inspected the tank to make sure that there was no person in it and obviously removed

928
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,260
the couple of clothing items.

929
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:56,940
And the state said, you know, because what we didn't know is how long things had been

930
01:24:56,940 --> 01:24:59,960
in that way, and whether or not somebody had intending to do it.

931
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:27,820
Conventionally poisoned, in some way, the water source that we needed to issue would do not drink notice to those people that are on that eastern side of town, which is about half of our city. Thankfully, our water team, our police team, our public information officer, our emergency preparedness officer really pulled together quickly, and I'd say cooperatively, they immediately tested the water and sent that out.

932
01:25:27,820 --> 01:25:36,920
So we're in touch with DSW, controlled the flow and the output by cutting off the sources,

933
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:43,900
started the notification process using VC alerts with text messages, voicemail messages

934
01:25:43,900 --> 01:25:49,400
in English and Spanish, social media posts, a press release.

935
01:25:50,500 --> 01:25:57,460
and then probably most importantly notified the community within hours of

936
01:25:57,460 --> 01:26:02,240
discovering this that we would make sure that there was free drinking water

937
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:09,100
available on the safe side of town over on the Steckel Parkside and so we had

938
01:26:09,100 --> 01:26:13,780
volunteers our explorers and our police that came out tried to help in an

939
01:26:13,780 --> 01:26:18,500
orderly way allow the community that needed it to come and get drinking water at

940
01:26:18,500 --> 01:26:27,200
at no charge. Thankfully within 24 hours this issue was abated and the state allowed us

941
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:33,700
to lift the order. The water division had started draining a lot of what was in the reservoir

942
01:26:34,180 --> 01:26:43,400
and then co-mixing fresh water with it. And so the issue, the crisis, if you will, was fairly

943
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:47,080
short in its lifespan, but still critical nonetheless.

944
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,080
It clearly created confusion and uncertainty.

945
01:26:52,540 --> 01:26:58,440
It obviously brought criticism to us, which we take seriously.

946
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:04,120
And I certainly want to let the community and the Council know that we've taken

947
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:05,200
this matter seriously.

948
01:27:05,660 --> 01:27:10,420
This morning, in fact, we had kind of a debrief, what we call an after-action

949
01:27:10,420 --> 01:27:16,540
a report with 20 different employees from a number of our departments working together

950
01:27:16,540 --> 01:27:21,660
to talk about what went well, what didn't go well, and how we can respond better in the

951
01:27:21,660 --> 01:27:23,620
future and what needs to happen.

952
01:27:25,020 --> 01:27:27,880
Our emergency services coordinator facilitated that.

953
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,620
She's actively putting together her notes.

954
01:27:30,620 --> 01:27:34,740
We'll have, you know, kind of an internal lessons learned report.

955
01:27:36,300 --> 01:27:38,060
And there was room for improvement.

956
01:27:38,060 --> 01:27:44,380
You know, I'll be the first to admit that there were things that could have been handled

957
01:27:44,380 --> 01:27:45,100
more smoothly.

958
01:27:46,260 --> 01:27:54,260
And certainly on the security side, a big takeaway for us is we need to work to harden

959
01:27:54,260 --> 01:27:55,100
the system.

960
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:59,760
In other words, to create greater surveillance and security there.

961
01:28:01,380 --> 01:28:06,560
Surveillance cameras, you know, I saw a number of posts on social media, you know, surveillance

962
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:11,120
surveillance cameras are cheap. Why don't we have them? That would not have prevented this.

963
01:28:12,020 --> 01:28:15,760
And so we should be clear about that. People that have surveillance cameras on their house

964
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:20,920
doesn't mean that they don't end up getting their house broken into. It would have been

965
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:27,320
informative. It would have helped our police. And so we're looking at a much more comprehensive

966
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:35,600
system than just cameras where we need to have kind of a better prevention from allowing

967
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:43,460
people to even enter that area, just so that it is secure, because it is our main source of drinking water for half of the town.

968
01:28:44,700 --> 01:28:52,320
And so we're going to look at that immediately, both short-term solutions as well as more permanent ones.

969
01:28:53,060 --> 01:29:02,260
Great, I really appreciate you sharing that information, especially when it comes to, what can we do in the future to prevent this again, 1% to cause all this ruckus?

970
01:29:02,260 --> 01:29:04,220
unbelievable to me.

971
01:29:06,010 --> 01:29:12,760
How soon will we hear back on these recommendations because at the end of the day it's also about resources

972
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:18,600
and resource allocation if we need stronger barriers, security cameras,

973
01:29:19,380 --> 01:29:23,960
et cetera, they're going to be an audit and a timeline of that security audit

974
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:28,380
for us to hear from you on what we need to do because

975
01:29:28,380 --> 01:29:35,340
because we also put the one-cent sales tax initiative on the ballot and the information

976
01:29:35,340 --> 01:29:38,220
on the ballot initiatives as protecting our drinking water.

977
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:44,840
And I think we need to make it clear that this is part of ensuring that we secure our

978
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:48,840
infrastructure, not only our streets, but our drinking water.

979
01:29:49,060 --> 01:29:51,900
It's critical to our city and our public safety, thank you.

980
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:59,940
Our IT director is already planning to reach out to security.

981
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,220
Security, resources to come and do an assessment, to make recommendations about what's really the best solution there, so that we can come to you with some type of capital improvement project. And I don't expect that we'll wait. We have, you know, under tonight's agenda, you have an opportunity to ratify the emergency proclamation, I issued last week, in doing so it gives us some flexibility on how quickly we can react.

982
01:30:29,220 --> 01:30:33,440
and respond to some of these issues.

983
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:38,300
And so we'll look at doing what we can in the short term and then coming to council

984
01:30:38,300 --> 01:30:42,660
with the fuller explanation and request if needed.

985
01:30:43,480 --> 01:30:48,740
Not just for this facility, we have, you know, we have water tanks all over town.

986
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:53,860
It's a critical part of providing the community with safe and reliable drinking water.

987
01:30:56,900 --> 01:30:57,620
Councillor Neill.

988
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:58,400
Thank you, Mayor.

989
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:06,160
people have sought me out by phone and in person and I think you touched upon the security

990
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:10,380
measures that we have in place and we're going to improve and again without compromising

991
01:31:10,380 --> 01:31:16,000
the security of our infrastructure I'm glad you brought that to the forefront and there

992
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:20,060
are some things that we're going to look at I think you mentioned and improve upon so thank

993
01:31:20,060 --> 01:31:26,180
you for that. But this also brought up the fact that our 1610 radio which last was utilized

994
01:31:26,180 --> 01:31:32,360
revised during COVID would have been very instrumental for this, and it comes up every month at the

995
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:38,400
students of the core meeting, and I think we talk today that we're going to move forward with getting that

996
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:44,400
operation again. And this is a prime example where it would have been very beneficial, because there are some people,

997
01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:50,640
especially some of our elderly and econically challenged, that don't have a smartphone, don't have a computer.

998
01:31:50,980 --> 01:31:55,960
They have channel 10, or they have a radio, so it's important that we reach out to those folks in

999
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,480
every possible means. Thanks. Appreciate it.

1000
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:05,160
Thank you very much for the report and again just to follow

1001
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:13,040
up on what has been said here as well. Thank you. Have a known was heard and it was an important

1002
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:19,120
exercise in finding out where our strengths are and where the weaknesses are so that we can be better

1003
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:22,480
prepared in the future. So I appreciate that and thank you for the entire report and I'll just

1004
01:32:22,480 --> 01:32:23,400
that. So thank you.

1005
01:32:25,870 --> 01:32:31,070
Okay, we'll move on to item 7F, the police department report. Plenty

1006
01:32:31,070 --> 01:32:32,030
old reports tonight.

1007
01:32:36,500 --> 01:32:38,440
Please Chief Abigail, please go ahead.

1008
01:32:40,820 --> 01:32:49,480
Thank you Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council, City staff, and our residents watching tonight. I'm

1009
01:32:49,480 --> 01:32:54,960
here to provide a police report on the department, the men and women of the police department have

1010
01:32:54,960 --> 01:33:01,980
been working diligently to address crime issues and provide other services to the community.

1011
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:08,720
And so tonight I'm going to cover an area of several months beginning with January

1012
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:11,580
1st through the actual end of June.

1013
01:33:11,860 --> 01:33:14,620
So we have our crime stats that have become available.

1014
01:33:15,340 --> 01:33:19,120
So I just like to go first and foremost to go over the crime stats.

1015
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:31,660
This again is a comparison for the same time period June 1st, or January 1st through June 30th, for the last three years, 2022, 2023, and currently year 2024.

1016
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:40,640
On the column on the far right, the comparisons are from this year to 2022 and this year to 2023.

1017
01:33:41,420 --> 01:33:46,160
So I'm going to go all the way to the right hand column in comparison to last year.

1018
01:33:47,140 --> 01:33:50,540
and just go over quickly some brief highlights.

1019
01:33:51,220 --> 01:33:56,640
Our violent crimes compared to last year at this time are down 7%.

1020
01:33:57,150 --> 01:34:05,740
And noted here, the aggravated assault number has gone down significantly, which is good news for us.

1021
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:09,380
And we'll go into that and talk about some of the other crimes related to that.

1022
01:34:09,900 --> 01:34:14,500
And in some more detail, our property crimes went up a bit.

1023
01:34:14,500 --> 01:34:22,500
And overall, the bottom right, bottom, corner there, part one crimes are up total between

1024
01:34:22,500 --> 01:34:25,300
property and violent crimes, up about 15%.

1025
01:34:26,020 --> 01:34:30,760
You may see an increase on arson under property crimes.

1026
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:36,640
We had an increase from 2023, where we had one, or I'm sorry, yes, one, and then we had

1027
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:38,580
an increase so far this year to three.

1028
01:34:38,980 --> 01:34:43,540
And I'll just let you know that two of those arson's of the three were related, and the

1029
01:34:43,540 --> 01:34:49,560
rest was made on those two. So we only had one other arson that has not yet been solved.

1030
01:34:49,740 --> 01:34:53,680
And these are reckless fires or not damaging large properties or what not.

1031
01:34:56,140 --> 01:34:59,980
The other increase, as you have seen, is underprop-

1032
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:10,820
Property crimes is theft, so again, our numbers went up from 90 in 2023 to 117 incidents currently

1033
01:35:10,820 --> 01:35:18,100
this year. So overall, crimes is down on the violence side which is important for us, and

1034
01:35:18,100 --> 01:35:25,100
we're still working on the property crimes part of that on some of the increases. Any questions

1035
01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:28,100
on this particular chart before I move forward.

1036
01:35:35,550 --> 01:35:38,290
Okay, let me go back just really quick.

1037
01:35:38,310 --> 01:35:42,870
Grand Theft Auto, our numbers went up 13% compared

1038
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:44,370
to last year at this time.

1039
01:35:44,950 --> 01:35:47,910
So we've been working hard to try and reduce that number

1040
01:35:47,910 --> 01:35:50,810
and the number is 27 so far to date.

1041
01:35:51,690 --> 01:35:54,870
And so I'll go over it by month, how many,

1042
01:35:55,070 --> 01:35:57,190
how many stolen vehicles we had

1043
01:35:57,190 --> 01:36:00,150
and how we've been working hard to strategize

1044
01:36:00,150 --> 01:36:13,650
and reduce those. In January we had nine, February we had four stolen vehicles. In March we had eight, April we had four, May we had two, and in June we had zero.

1045
01:36:14,010 --> 01:36:25,690
So thanks to our officers on patrol, working looking at time frames, looking at times of the day, looking at where they're occurring on main thoroughfares in some residential areas.

1046
01:36:25,690 --> 01:36:29,910
So kudos to all of us, all of them at the police department for

1047
01:36:29,910 --> 01:36:33,130
working on reducing our stolen vehicles.

1048
01:36:38,030 --> 01:36:47,240
I just want to touch a little bit on domestic violence, that has come under the forefront because our aggravated assaults were up because our felony domestic violence arrests were up.

1049
01:36:47,620 --> 01:36:55,840
But now we have had a reduced aggravated assaults statistics so far this year, just giving you some updates on that.

1050
01:36:55,840 --> 01:37:04,500
So our calls for service both this time, this year, and compared to last year, at the same time period, the calls are about the same.

1051
01:37:05,060 --> 01:37:13,560
However, the arrests are down, which means we're not making as many arrests, which means that lower the aggravated assaults, especially on the families.

1052
01:37:14,220 --> 01:37:18,640
So in total, this year we have 60 arrests for domestic violence.

1053
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:24,800
were last year we were at 87 so again the drop in domestic violence related

1054
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:34,760
crimes and arrests. Good news. And on that before I move on to training I did pull

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01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:39,760
up some response times for emergency calls which are our priority one calls and

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01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:45,360
in comparison from last year to this year this time period and right about our

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01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:52,040
priority one in emergency calls, we sponsor time, which means the time it was dispatched by the dispatcher to the time of arrival.

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01:37:52,800 --> 01:38:00,500
So those times are for this year, just around two minutes, and last year we were out almost about two and a half minutes.

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01:38:01,020 --> 01:38:09,780
So I can tell you that we have more officers on the street, we have staffings up, hence we're going to be able to respond in a better time frame.

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01:38:09,780 --> 01:38:12,240
We're going to continue to work on reducing that number.

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01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:13,220
We

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01:38:16,770 --> 01:38:21,410
are continuing with ongoing briefing training, and that is for all of our employees.

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01:38:21,930 --> 01:38:26,030
We have lots of new employees, so we want to make sure we continue that training aspect.

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01:38:27,370 --> 01:38:40,630
Our executive consultant, Micah Randa, has helped out with doing instruction on employee due process, which means this is the information provided for

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01:38:40,630 --> 01:38:44,330
employees if they are subject to either an administrative

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01:38:44,330 --> 01:38:49,610
inquiry or investigation, it gives them their due rights, due process and was available to them.

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01:38:49,770 --> 01:38:54,550
So it's good to clean that to all of our employees so that they're aware and can make informed decisions.

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01:38:55,610 --> 01:39:02,590
Secondly, we have had the district attorney's office, different deputy district attorneys come in and provide training for all of our officers.

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01:39:03,070 --> 01:39:06,690
So the four areas we've been focusing on recently, the last few months,

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01:39:06,690 --> 01:39:13,990
Victim advocate, training, gang investigations, gun violence restraining order, or GVROs,

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01:39:14,390 --> 01:39:17,590
and juvenile interviews and interrogations.

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01:39:18,110 --> 01:39:23,430
So we appreciate our partners at district attorneys for coming out, coming down several

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01:39:23,430 --> 01:39:29,150
days each week for a couple of weeks to touch all of our employees, our officers, to provide

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01:39:29,150 --> 01:39:29,710
them with training.

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01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:36,150
The other training we have also done is we've updated our DUI enforcement forms to help our

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01:39:36,150 --> 01:39:41,350
officers be more efficient and also cover all the areas necessary to have a

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01:39:41,350 --> 01:39:46,470
prosecutable case for the district attorney. So we worked on that as well.

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01:39:48,330 --> 01:39:52,850
And in doing so, I'm happy to share with you because of that training and because

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01:39:52,850 --> 01:39:58,850
more officers on the street we have literally almost doubled the amount of DUI

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01:39:58,850 --> 01:39:59,850
rest from

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01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:25,340
Last year, to this year, same time frame. And that for us means safer streets and saving lives. So we're really happy to see that number. In fact, we have one of our officers will be honored in a couple of weeks at the mother's against drunk drivers awards for his work the past year in providing the highest number of DUI arrests for the station.

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01:40:28,250 --> 01:40:31,390
Let's talk about wellness. We continue to have wellness and peer support.

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01:40:32,510 --> 01:40:38,430
But our peer support staff received more training on resiliency and critical incident

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01:40:38,430 --> 01:40:38,910
review.

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01:40:39,610 --> 01:40:47,150
Also, Port Raynimi Police Department had a abrupt loss of one of their civilian employees

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01:40:47,150 --> 01:40:49,030
at a young age.

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01:40:49,670 --> 01:40:54,510
So our peer support stepped in, they went over to the police department and consoled them,

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01:40:54,670 --> 01:41:00,630
provided empathy and also provided a meal that we prepared, we had picked up and delivered

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01:41:00,630 --> 01:41:02,250
delivered over there and spent some time with them.

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01:41:02,610 --> 01:41:06,410
It's all about working together in the brotherhood of the history of law enforcement in the county.

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01:41:06,970 --> 01:41:10,130
And we were there for them as I'm sure they would be there for us.

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01:41:10,790 --> 01:41:13,450
Our newsletters for peer support still came out.

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01:41:13,570 --> 01:41:15,010
You might see a picture of the donut up there.

1094
01:41:15,250 --> 01:41:17,410
That's a mean that we're telling people they eat donuts.

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01:41:18,930 --> 01:41:23,670
We just had a special observance of national donut day just as a fun thing.

1096
01:41:23,890 --> 01:41:28,070
So we're not telling her after the donuts, although we enjoy them very much.

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01:41:28,070 --> 01:41:28,690
So,

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01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:59,080
okay, moving on to department projects, as Mr. Singer had said, we are now at the beginning point of our projects at the end of the month, we will be starting our phase one of our public lobby lobby being expanded, and so that will require some impacts to our staffing inside during this and we'll have to be moving staff to other locations, either it's community development or our detective trailer.

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01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:04,160
and what not. So that project will begin at the end of the month. Our fencing project to

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01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:09,700
enclose the fence at the City Hall parking lot will begin the first week of August. So we

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01:42:09,700 --> 01:42:15,740
will have simultaneous projects going on. Needless to say, the parking impacts in the City Hall

1102
01:42:15,740 --> 01:42:22,020
parking lot will be impacted. And so we're working together with all departments to find out more

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01:42:22,020 --> 01:42:28,260
options for parking and to make everybody's life just a little bit easier during the tough time.

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01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:33,780
I want to say thanks to Greg Barnes over at Park NRECT and our Executive Consultant

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01:42:33,780 --> 01:42:38,100
Mike Arana for marshalling this forward to the point now where we're seeing this happen

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01:42:38,100 --> 01:42:39,100
and we're excited.

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01:42:39,700 --> 01:42:43,580
We're going to have to go through some challenges, but at the same time the end result is going

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01:42:43,580 --> 01:42:46,960
to be great for all of us here at the city, so we appreciate that.

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01:42:53,670 --> 01:42:57,610
All right, I'm again happy to report our recruitment and our hiring.

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01:42:58,090 --> 01:43:03,770
This past March we graduated two recruits from the Ventura County Criminal Justice Training

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01:43:03,770 --> 01:43:09,410
meeting center, which is the academy over in Camarillo at the airport, historic on many

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01:43:09,410 --> 01:43:15,710
accounts. Those two officers are currently on field training, but we had not graduated

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01:43:15,710 --> 01:43:20,390
recruits from the Sheriff's Academy there in about ten years. So this was historic for

1114
01:43:20,390 --> 01:43:26,350
us to get back to saving money, providing good training, getting our recruits out, and getting

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01:43:26,350 --> 01:43:31,710
them to be successful out on the field after they graduate from the academy. What's also

1116
01:43:31,710 --> 01:43:45,810
We look great as our honor guard has expanded, we participated in that celebration of the graduation with our own member of our honor guard joining those from other agencies who had graduates, so another great, a great showing for Santa Paula PD.

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01:43:50,170 --> 01:44:00,790
Our promotional recruitment has continued, we have finished the recruitment testing process for police commander and we will be making, I'll be making a selection soon on that so that's coming just around the corner.

1118
01:44:02,010 --> 01:44:08,930
As far as our other staffing are dispatchers, we have hired, we're fully staffed at dispatchers.

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01:44:09,050 --> 01:44:13,730
We have a couple dispatchers finishing up training, and we anticipate we'll have those

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01:44:14,220 --> 01:44:17,790
full staffing of six off of training sometime soon.

1121
01:44:18,510 --> 01:44:20,970
Our sworn vacancies we have approximately three.

1122
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:26,850
We have hired a reserve officer, and we have two other reserve officers in background.

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01:44:26,850 --> 01:44:32,770
So we our goal at the end to reach at the end of this calendar year is still to be having five reserved officers

1124
01:44:32,770 --> 01:44:36,610
So we're happy about that and the progress with our volunteer services

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01:44:39,130 --> 01:44:44,510
Just a review of some of the grants that are going on for us. We have our alcohol beverage control grant

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01:44:45,190 --> 01:44:47,530
that has been instrumental for us in

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01:44:48,530 --> 01:44:53,570
providing extra hours of over time to work at the city parks doing alcohol beverage

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01:44:53,570 --> 01:44:59,890
enforcement, those who have open containers of alcohol, drinking, that we observe, we've been issuing

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01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,420
Item citations and arrests. And also, ABC has joined us and come out on Main Street. You may have seen that cruise night recently. They joined us to make sure we were doing compliance check on everybody's ABC licenses. We actually had an issue or they issued a notification warning to one of our establishments that refused to comply with the directives we had on one evening. So appreciate the cooperation from them and the ability for us to continue to do

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01:45:29,420 --> 01:45:31,100
doing license compliance checks.

1131
01:45:32,100 --> 01:45:34,100
Our Office of Traffic Safety Grant continues.

1132
01:45:34,300 --> 01:45:38,000
We're doing DUI saturation patrols during the holiday times

1133
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:40,740
and staffing that with our officers

1134
01:45:41,340 --> 01:45:42,500
because of our increased staffing.

1135
01:45:42,500 --> 01:45:45,400
We're able to send some cars out for extra patrols

1136
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,620
and our Ventura County Transportation Commission grant.

1137
01:45:49,500 --> 01:45:51,820
We have purchased two traffic message boards

1138
01:45:51,820 --> 01:45:54,500
and those message boards also track speed.

1139
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:58,580
So when Harvard Boulevard is finally paved

1140
01:45:58,580 --> 01:46:02,460
we anticipate there would be some speed problems and we're going to monitor that and put our

1141
01:46:02,460 --> 01:46:07,140
message boards out there, speed surveys are already in progress to make sure they're updated

1142
01:46:07,140 --> 01:46:11,080
and so we can make sure we do some traffic enforcement for safety.

1143
01:46:11,740 --> 01:46:17,420
We also are in the process purchasing the incident responder vehicle which will provide equipment

1144
01:46:17,420 --> 01:46:23,380
for us to show up at critical scenes such as injury to serious injury traffic collisions,

1145
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:25,700
other detective investigations and whatnot.

1146
01:46:25,700 --> 01:46:29,800
So we're glad to have that and we've been making that purchase very soon.

1147
01:46:32,140 --> 01:46:34,240
Just a few things on engagement.

1148
01:46:34,580 --> 01:46:40,700
I just want to, again, thank Greg Barnes for working with us on Police Activities League.

1149
01:46:41,180 --> 01:46:44,980
This recent event we had, which is, I believe, the week and before last,

1150
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:49,080
Oxard College hosted a soccer tournament in our PAL team,

1151
01:46:49,220 --> 01:46:53,820
which had young men age 15 to 17 enter into this tournament.

1152
01:46:53,820 --> 01:47:00,160
They played games Friday, Saturday, and on Sunday, I attended their third game on Sunday,

1153
01:47:00,260 --> 01:47:02,960
they won and went to the title match, and they won.

1154
01:47:03,420 --> 01:47:05,300
So we're really excited about that.

1155
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:10,260
In fact, tomorrow, we're having a meeting for dinner, for a meal, complements of the

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01:47:10,260 --> 01:47:14,540
police officer's association to recognize them for their awesome work.

1157
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:20,600
And just watching the coaching and the adjustments to the players made and their commitment to working

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01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:21,000
hard.

1159
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:25,880
They practiced two or three days a week over at Las Vegas Park and it really is amazing

1160
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:29,080
I was really come in these young men for doing a great job so

1161
01:47:30,260 --> 01:47:33,940
That's one of the things we're very happy to watch them

1162
01:47:35,020 --> 01:47:38,660
Neighborhood watch we are now back in neighborhood watch mode. I'm glad

1163
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,580
the commander and I and our volunteers

1164
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:46,120
Martha Brown and Jimmy Fagata have helped us resurrect this great and

1165
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:54,600
and needed program, and it's going out in the neighborhoods and just talking about current issues they have in their neighborhoods.

1166
01:47:54,820 --> 01:47:59,940
We've done two talks already, our third neighbor watch meeting in East Area 1 is next week.

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01:48:00,820 --> 01:48:06,460
And we hope to see all of our residents there to talk about not only concerns but

1168
01:48:06,460 --> 01:48:10,540
any other things that they have questions about about the police department or other services that we provide.

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01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:14,120
So it's great to be out there well-attended advance on the first two.

1170
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:18,780
We had, I think, 22 on the first one, on the second one, about 15 or 20.

1171
01:48:19,260 --> 01:48:23,500
So, really glad to get the interaction out there and meet people in the community,

1172
01:48:23,700 --> 01:48:30,200
let them know that we're there for them, and we're in nexus to help reduce crime in their neighborhood.

1173
01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:37,010
Some of the other engagement this year, we coordinated our peace officers memorial.

1174
01:48:37,430 --> 01:48:44,110
The police memorial committee, I worked with them, and we held a great, great event on during National Police Week.

1175
01:48:44,110 --> 01:48:51,870
the event had bagpipers, the release of doves, and the play of taps by one of our Santa

1176
01:48:51,870 --> 01:48:56,970
Polo high school students in a marvelous job, and really, really felt the moment of those

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01:48:56,970 --> 01:48:59,370
who gave their lives for all of us.

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01:48:59,470 --> 01:49:00,470
So it was a good event.

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01:49:01,630 --> 01:49:05,730
The other event, our honor guard also attended along with the commander, was the Ventura County

1180
01:49:05,730 --> 01:49:07,750
Peace Officers Memorial, which was the following week.

1181
01:49:08,290 --> 01:49:13,550
And we showed our interest in our participation, the honor guard participated with the others

1182
01:49:13,550 --> 01:49:19,730
from all across the county, and another event recognizing those who have given their lives for all of us.

1183
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:26,580
All right, and some emergency preparedness news.

1184
01:49:27,300 --> 01:49:32,480
We had our graduating cert class, which was on March the 9th.

1185
01:49:32,620 --> 01:49:40,720
I was glad our emergency services coordinator Kate walked into the amazing job coordinating this program along with Ventura City Fire.

1186
01:49:41,300 --> 01:49:44,160
And we got, and I believe, not all of them were there.

1187
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:49,360
I think we had about 12 or 13 total graduates, so I was very honored to go out there and stand with them.

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01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:53,680
And since then, we've had them participate in events.

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01:49:54,220 --> 01:49:59,920
On June the 22nd, they participated in the Santa Paula Services Coalition Fair, which was that veteran.

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01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:29,000
It's part, it's always good to have them there in case we need them not just for offer services or offer information, but to be there in the event of an emergency. And then as soon as, as recent as June 25th, the Santa Paula Water Distribution during the Water Reservoir incident, they provided assistance at the Water Human Plant, helping distribute water to our residents. So again, those are the, those are the types of callings that we want.

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01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:35,660
our cert team out on and I know that Kate is also working on another cert class to expand our

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01:50:35,660 --> 01:50:37,780
cert program. So really happy about that.

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01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:45,500
Recognition, I just am proud to say that on June 17th,

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01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:54,380
our officer, Yvette Solis, was recognized for her great work this past year, 2023 for the amazing

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01:50:55,100 --> 01:51:00,920
job that she did. She worked in detectives. When we felt we felt shorthanded, she went back to

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01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:04,980
and has been doing field training to all our new officers.

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01:51:04,980 --> 01:51:06,300
She's done an amazing job.

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01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:14,460
She was recognized by Polar Polar Polar for an award for her success as a woman in the community.

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And so we're very happy to have her recognize along with other officers from across the county on June 17th.

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01:51:20,980 --> 01:51:26,080
Our police officer's association was there to also assist us in congratulating her in that evening.

1201
01:51:26,420 --> 01:51:27,720
So it was a great evening.

1202
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:29,860
Congratulations to the event, she's great.

1203
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:35,960
And National Volunteer Week, we recognize our own police department volunteers.

1204
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:39,940
Those are citizen volunteers, explorers for what they do.

1205
01:51:40,260 --> 01:51:48,700
And so Commander Starron had a head of that one up, and we were able to provide those who've been here for several years prior to service explorers or police volunteers.

1206
01:51:48,700 --> 01:51:49,540
We recognize them.

1207
01:51:50,020 --> 01:51:52,820
And so we thank them for the endless hours again.

1208
01:51:53,240 --> 01:52:01,280
I'll give you an example of how reliable they are and appreciative we are of them the other night when we needed help for

1209
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:08,580
the water distribution hand out. I called our explorer advisor an hour before this distribution

1210
01:52:08,580 --> 01:52:14,480
started and I said I need as many explorers as you can get. He said no problem. An hour

1211
01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:19,000
later at the start of this event we had 11 explorers and we needed every one of them to

1212
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:23,800
get those cars through and that involved traffic traffic direction at the intersection of

1213
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:27,640
Steccal and Maine all the way in and around the wraparound of the drive through we did. So

1214
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:32,120
So they worked well with the parameters and we're able to improvise when necessary.

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01:52:32,700 --> 01:52:40,200
So again, the volunteerism of Santa Paula stood again in the eyes of our explorers providing

1216
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:42,000
great, great service, so I appreciate them.

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01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:48,700
And that wraps up my presentation for my report tonight and I'd be happy to answer any questions.

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01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:55,420
If I may, I'd like to start only because I was going to mention later on that evening of

1219
01:52:55,420 --> 01:52:59,560
the water incident, we had a meeting here at City Hall

1220
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:02,500
and as I drove home, I drove past the water distribution

1221
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:07,760
and just nothing but explorers, working, smiling,

1222
01:53:08,100 --> 01:53:11,420
assisting, they were happy to be there to help

1223
01:53:11,420 --> 01:53:13,380
and it was just wonderful to see

1224
01:53:13,380 --> 01:53:16,040
so I'd wanted to make special mention to them

1225
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:17,880
at this one but I appreciate the report.

1226
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:19,380
Anyone have a question?

1227
01:53:19,540 --> 01:53:19,860
Thank you, Mayor.

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01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:20,800
Council Member Morris.

1229
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:21,400
Thank you, Mayor.

1230
01:53:21,580 --> 01:53:23,320
I see Kate Watkins in the room.

1231
01:53:23,440 --> 01:53:24,400
Can we confirm that date?

1232
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:28,860
We learned it today at Susan's core meeting will be August 14th, does that seem right?

1233
01:53:37,890 --> 01:53:40,950
Okay, and also August 14th.

1234
01:53:41,390 --> 01:53:45,910
Okay, and we understand there might be, or there will be a Spanish instructor, or possibly,

1235
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:52,660
the, the, I'm sorry, Susan, the search training, forgive me.

1236
01:53:52,820 --> 01:53:57,880
If we could have her speak up at the Dias so that she's heard by the public as well, please.

1237
01:54:02,570 --> 01:54:09,190
No, I apologize for the infusion, the message is that has been requested in our community.

1238
01:54:09,790 --> 01:54:16,850
There is emphasis for that, however, countywide there is a shortage of Spanish certain

1239
01:54:16,850 --> 01:54:17,290
structures.

1240
01:54:17,510 --> 01:54:18,630
And so we're looking for them.

1241
01:54:18,630 --> 01:54:23,730
So that is a push with all of the cities in our county to find that because we recognize

1242
01:54:23,730 --> 01:54:29,570
is that that is a needed class that we really do want to provide for our community.

1243
01:54:29,870 --> 01:54:35,010
So that is something we're looking into, but the class will be offered in English on August 14th.

1244
01:54:35,110 --> 01:54:40,130
All right. And what's the best way for somebody to let or to apply or let you know they want to attend?

1245
01:54:40,970 --> 01:54:45,770
Yes. We first and foremost, they can always contact me via email.

1246
01:54:46,330 --> 01:54:51,290
Secondly, with the last class, we put this up on our city website.

1247
01:54:51,290 --> 01:54:59,970
So, that is www.spyty.org, and those would be great ways as-

1248
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:27,760
Well, we had such a humongous interest last time. We're trying to fill those spots. I've had emails from people asking. We had several students who were not able to complete all six weeks. And so we are extending the invitation to them as well to get them to recover their classes. But we saw such a great turnout in the first and such a huge interest. We will continue to offer this and build those classes up and get our community involved.

1249
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:31,800
All right. Thank you. And this, again, let me start off by saying, for the cert training.

1250
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:33,140
Yes, for the cert.

1251
01:55:36,830 --> 01:55:40,110
Any other questions for the Chief, Council Member Crossway?

1252
01:55:40,250 --> 01:55:41,070
Just one quick question.

1253
01:55:41,850 --> 01:55:45,670
When the officers respond to the domestic violence calls,

1254
01:55:46,230 --> 01:55:51,250
are they also referring the victims in those calls to the Family Justice Center or?

1255
01:55:52,350 --> 01:55:55,390
Yes, so we have the domestic violence pamphlets we can hand them.

1256
01:55:55,930 --> 01:55:59,030
They refer them to the District Attorney Victim Advocate

1257
01:55:59,030 --> 01:56:02,810
or a family just a center if it applies depending on what the services they need.

1258
01:56:03,070 --> 01:56:06,850
Sometimes it's 2-1-1, sometimes it's a family just a center and sometimes it's DA.

1259
01:56:07,010 --> 01:56:10,850
But we make sure we cover all those aspects with them so that they get the services they need.

1260
01:56:11,210 --> 01:56:11,570
Thank you.

1261
01:56:11,790 --> 01:56:12,230
Thank you.

1262
01:56:13,970 --> 01:56:16,050
Thank you, Chief, very much for your report, today.

1263
01:56:16,190 --> 01:56:18,530
I appreciate all the work, the department, oh, did you have a question?

1264
01:56:18,910 --> 01:56:22,250
Okay, I appreciate all that you and the department do, thank you.

1265
01:56:22,450 --> 01:56:22,990
Thank you, Council.

1266
01:56:24,090 --> 01:56:25,250
Okay, Vice Mayor Chavez.

1267
01:56:26,310 --> 01:56:43,250
I was going to ask if you and my fellow council members would be able to accommodate several members of the public that are here for agenda item 11-A noting that the time is 8-30 to allow them the opportunity to speak because I know that we're going to be going very late this evening.

1268
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:54,220
That would be to skip the art, replace, skip over the consent agenda to the first action item of 11-A.

1269
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:56,580
to accommodate public comments.

1270
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,140
Is that the only item we have public comment on?

1271
01:56:59,480 --> 01:56:59,740
Check.

1272
01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:04,860
We have two public comments for that,

1273
01:57:05,020 --> 01:57:06,020
and then another one for later,

1274
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:07,440
another action item later.

1275
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:07,860
So.

1276
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:10,140
What's the second one?

1277
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:12,300
11, see,

1278
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:17,380
stousing, housing.

1279
01:57:21,630 --> 01:57:25,990
I'd like to see, first, if there are,

1280
01:57:26,870 --> 01:57:28,950
well, that's right, we have to do the reports and all, too.

1281
01:57:29,190 --> 01:57:30,550
So yeah, I was just thinking we just

1282
01:57:30,550 --> 01:57:31,490
I just had to consent agenda.

1283
01:57:31,990 --> 01:57:41,350
Yes, I will use my prerogative to go ahead and go ahead and move to taking item action item 11A at this time.

1284
01:57:41,650 --> 01:57:48,610
Moving that up on the agenda for the public speakers, and then we'll continue with our regular agenda after that.

1285
01:57:49,370 --> 01:57:56,990
We went kind of long on reports and all which are important, but I understand the interest of time for the people here.

1286
01:57:58,470 --> 01:58:04,470
We can go ahead and take that item without objection from the staff or questions.

1287
01:58:04,750 --> 01:58:12,110
Or could we just move our reports to later and that way I just I feel a little bit bad

1288
01:58:12,110 --> 01:58:16,970
if we move one item that has not the rest comments and that's actually a very good suggestion.

1289
01:58:17,150 --> 01:58:18,170
Would you be all right with that as well?

1290
01:58:18,290 --> 01:58:19,030
There's a ton of.

1291
01:58:19,030 --> 01:58:22,550
We just move the both of those items up front yeah to be equitable.

1292
01:58:23,130 --> 01:58:25,710
Well at that point they were moving almost all the other action items.

1293
01:58:25,710 --> 01:58:31,530
I actually like the idea of moving our reports, taking the consent agenda, and then moving

1294
01:58:31,530 --> 01:58:34,170
right into 11 a and reports after it, that's all right.

1295
01:58:35,550 --> 01:58:39,270
Okay, but appreciate the issue being brought up, so let's accommodate.

1296
01:58:39,990 --> 01:58:51,590
Let's, we will move items 8 and 9, City Council and Manager reports to later, and we will

1297
01:58:51,590 --> 01:58:52,850
we'll take our consent agenda.

1298
01:58:55,290 --> 01:58:59,150
Item 10, we have no public comment at this point. Do

1299
01:58:59,150 --> 01:59:05,970
we have any items in the consent agenda that need to be addressed or pulled before

1300
01:59:05,970 --> 01:59:10,230
vote? I have a couple of questions on 10B.

1301
01:59:10,890 --> 01:59:12,030
10B? Okay.

1302
01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:19,360
Any others? Okay, so what are your questions in on 10B? Let's go ahead and

1303
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:23,540
There it goes. Is there someone who knows about Tendi?

1304
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:27,000
Yeah, good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council Member.

1305
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:39,660
Jonathan, do you know why on my original understanding was that the route that the broadband was going to take was going to be just along the railroad?

1306
01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:47,300
Do you know why it deviates and goes down Santa Barbara Street instead of continuing along the railroad through Santa Paula?

1307
01:59:47,300 --> 01:59:49,600
Council Member Crossway, there's actually two reasons.

1308
01:59:50,500 --> 01:59:53,760
They've been in partnership with us the entire time, having conversations.

1309
01:59:54,440 --> 01:59:59,420
As councils aware, we also have a latter grant, and we're looking to put out an RFP on

1310
01:59:59,420 --> 01:59:59,640
that.

1311
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:29,240
From process to identify internally in Santa Paula where we could do connectivity and fiber connections. The main first reason is that along the rail cord or at that juncture where it ventures off on the Santa Barbara, the plowing or the equipment that's utilized to do the trinching underneath the ground because we wouldn't be disturbing the roadway. Essentially, we'd be going underneath boring under the street. Doesn't fit in that narrow passageway.

1312
02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:32,280
along the rail corridor in that particular area.

1313
02:00:32,980 --> 02:00:36,300
I'm not too sure exactly how far that area extends out,

1314
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:39,740
but that was one of the main reasons is that there's a large portion

1315
02:00:39,740 --> 02:00:42,660
where that just equipment will not accommodate.

1316
02:00:43,300 --> 02:00:45,560
The second reason when they looked at it,

1317
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:48,640
the engineers, is they realize that we already have

1318
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:51,960
fiber connection points up 10th street or the SR150

1319
02:00:52,540 --> 02:00:54,780
that end at Santa Barbara Street.

1320
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:57,260
And then you also have commercial businesses

1321
02:00:57,260 --> 02:01:01,760
and a corridor there, so it actually from an economic development standpoint and from

1322
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:07,160
a standpoint of connecting to our existing city infrastructure, it actually makes a lot

1323
02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:12,400
more sense to actually run the conduit in that particular region on Santa Barbara.

1324
02:01:13,220 --> 02:01:19,820
And in talking with our chief information officer, he agrees, it's funny we're actually having

1325
02:01:19,820 --> 02:01:24,080
this conversation and he's like, I hope they don't go along the rail corridor in that particular

1326
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:28,720
area because if they could just bore into Santa Barbara Street, we already have actually

1327
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:33,240
the fiber connection right there, which will be great because we'll be able to make

1328
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:40,060
a connection from city hall up to street to that connection, utilize the fiber that goes

1329
02:01:40,060 --> 02:01:46,100
along that corridor and then reconnect with the community center. So thereby kind of completing

1330
02:01:46,100 --> 02:01:47,160
the circuit for us.

1331
02:01:48,060 --> 02:01:52,920
All right. That's helpful. I just saw that and I was like, wait, I don't remember that.

1332
02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:58,140
And so then will they have to work with CalTRans when it gets to 10th Street?

1333
02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:02,280
I'm not like part of the conversation do you know?

1334
02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:05,180
I can't speak to that that portion at this time.

1335
02:02:05,420 --> 02:02:07,420
It would just be something I know that you've been talking with them.

1336
02:02:07,580 --> 02:02:11,760
If you would just take that back and make sure that if they need to because I know that on the

1337
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:18,180
map it shows it going through 10th Street and I know that the 10th Street corridor is CalTRans.

1338
02:02:18,180 --> 02:02:22,460
So just making sure that if they also need an MOU for that one block with

1339
02:02:22,460 --> 02:02:26,060
Caltrans that they've had that conversation and maybe they already have but

1340
02:02:26,660 --> 02:02:29,460
Okay, just wanted to flag that. I will note that

1341
02:02:29,460 --> 02:02:32,340
And then do you know

1342
02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:34,760
If

1343
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:43,040
What how when they use the word commercial do they just mean like so the two strands of fiber that we would have access to the dark fiber

1344
02:02:43,700 --> 02:02:44,540
it says that

1345
02:02:45,740 --> 02:02:47,680
We can't use it for commercial purposes

1346
02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:50,600
does that just mean generating revenue,

1347
02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:54,080
or do they mean we couldn't have anyone other than the city use it?

1348
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:55,980
We can generate revenue off of it.

1349
02:02:56,540 --> 02:03:00,860
We can utilize it in other manners, but we can't charge for.

1350
02:03:01,380 --> 02:03:04,680
Right, but like, so let's just, I'm just going to throw out a wild.

1351
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:08,420
Like, let's say we said, oh, we want the library to be able to have access

1352
02:03:08,420 --> 02:03:10,640
because we've realized we had extra capacity.

1353
02:03:11,020 --> 02:03:15,280
If we offered that as a public service, is that something we could offer

1354
02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:21,520
for free as a community space or not because it's not technically a city property.

1355
02:03:22,420 --> 02:03:27,020
As I understand it and speaking with them, libraries have been brought up as an example,

1356
02:03:27,260 --> 02:03:29,180
connecting other infrastructure in the community.

1357
02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:32,100
Don't want to give you 100% positive answer right now?

1358
02:03:32,260 --> 02:03:32,680
Potential.

1359
02:03:32,980 --> 02:03:40,080
As long as we're not making money off of it, could potentially have community partners that

1360
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:44,240
that we designated as a beneficial public use.

1361
02:03:44,860 --> 02:03:45,240
Correct.

1362
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:48,620
And the other idea behind it too is just economic development.

1363
02:03:48,900 --> 02:03:54,380
If the city were to see fit, those dark fiber cables would be ours to do it.

1364
02:03:54,540 --> 02:03:59,620
So if there were economic development reasons in that particular region where we felt

1365
02:03:59,620 --> 02:04:05,560
that it would help bring in businesses or help kind of activate that area, we could do

1366
02:04:05,560 --> 02:04:05,780
that.

1367
02:04:05,860 --> 02:04:06,660
That would be up to us.

1368
02:04:07,700 --> 02:04:23,440
And then I don't know, city attorney, do you know when it talks not that we would ever need to execute a termination clause, but when it talks in the termination clause about a public hearing, is that a public hearing like we do for a housing project where it has to be moved in the paper?

1369
02:04:24,220 --> 02:04:27,300
Or is that just are they just referring to a public meeting?

1370
02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:35,140
Council Member Crossfight, that would be a notice hearing, it's more formal to give them

1371
02:04:35,140 --> 02:04:35,620
to process.

1372
02:04:37,760 --> 02:04:40,780
And then my only other comment is we just need to make sure that the final

1373
02:04:40,780 --> 02:04:45,060
version that we sign actually has a county designate written on the line right now there's just

1374
02:04:45,060 --> 02:04:53,680
a line. So those are all my questions. Thank you. And that was the only item that was had

1375
02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:55,900
Any questions on it. Thank you, Mr. Rice.

1376
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:58,360
I motion to approve consent calendar.

1377
02:04:58,540 --> 02:04:58,760
Okay.

1378
02:04:59,060 --> 02:04:59,680
I would.

1379
02:05:00,500 --> 02:05:02,620
Second, items a through g, George.

1380
02:05:04,980 --> 02:05:24,420
Any other questions? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. We have passed the consent agenda. I have a request for a, I know we want to move to 11 a, but I have a request for a 5 minute comfort break. So if you will indulge us for just a few minutes, and please come back quickly, if you may, if you can.

1381
02:05:24,420 --> 02:05:25,760
We

1382
02:05:43,420 --> 02:05:52,260
convened after a brief break moving on to action items 11 a ordinance amending SPMC chapter

1383
02:05:52,260 --> 02:05:58,400
124 relating to dining entertainment permits in the commercial business district zone.

1384
02:05:59,180 --> 02:06:06,480
We would ask that we do the staff report first by our presentation by director James Mason.

1385
02:06:06,920 --> 02:06:08,940
And then we will ask for public comment.

1386
02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:19,760
Thank you mayor and council.

1387
02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:19,820
So

1388
02:06:35,050 --> 02:06:49,770
we've had a lot of growth and development within downtown as far as new restaurants and VR a community that's about not only entertainment but activities.

1389
02:06:50,370 --> 02:07:00,270
So we do have an existing chapter within the municipal code chapter 124 that addresses dining entertainment.

1390
02:07:00,270 --> 02:07:14,170
But we made some modifications to kind of relate to some of the needs that we have and to really start to try and regulate how we move through the process with the understanding that as things grow.

1391
02:07:15,410 --> 02:07:30,250
I kind of want to preface this by saying this is something I see as being somewhat organic and we may address this again as we move forward and see what the needs are, what the concerns are and how we can modify it to better serve both the community.

1392
02:07:30,250 --> 02:07:31,810
and the businesses that want to do this.

1393
02:07:32,590 --> 02:07:34,870
So what we have before you, staff recommending,

1394
02:07:35,250 --> 02:07:39,170
introduce and wave first reading of this ordinance 1339,

1395
02:07:39,950 --> 02:07:42,870
which is entitled in ordinance of the City of Santa Paula,

1396
02:07:43,170 --> 02:07:45,590
amending chapter 124 of the municipal code,

1397
02:07:45,850 --> 02:07:47,270
relating to dining attainment permits

1398
02:07:47,270 --> 02:07:49,790
in the commercial business districts on.

1399
02:07:50,430 --> 02:07:53,370
And again, this relates just to businesses within

1400
02:07:53,370 --> 02:07:57,270
the central business district, businesses outside

1401
02:07:57,270 --> 02:08:06,630
But side the central business district that would have some type of dining or entertainment would be under a conditional use permit.

1402
02:08:09,430 --> 02:08:19,830
And the municipal code requires an active cafe entertainment permit or dining permit for businesses to offer live entertainment that includes amplified music within their establishment.

1403
02:08:20,130 --> 02:08:24,650
This permit process is exclusive for businesses within the central business district, as I mentioned.

1404
02:08:25,730 --> 02:08:35,330
Central business district from 8th Street to 12th Street, really it's businesses that front on Main Street primarily.

1405
02:08:36,550 --> 02:08:52,770
What I also included is businesses that either have existing music or potential or proposed music in the future, so right now I believe we've had four businesses that have music intermittently.

1406
02:08:52,770 --> 02:08:59,290
and then another three that potentially would be having music, but that's what we know

1407
02:08:59,290 --> 02:09:00,730
right now. There could be more later.

1408
02:09:03,150 --> 02:09:09,950
This code kind of dovetails with our chapter 93, which is noise. It was one of the major

1409
02:09:09,950 --> 02:09:16,970
elements dealing with live entertainment, amplified music is our noise ordinance. And one thing

1410
02:09:16,970 --> 02:09:26,550
And one kind of, that overshadows all of this is when we're dealing with compliance within this dining and entertainment ordinance,

1411
02:09:26,730 --> 02:09:31,990
it really relates to compliance with our municipal code in several different areas.

1412
02:09:32,110 --> 02:09:40,510
And this is one of them related to this area of commercial and office, which the central business district is considered a commercial office district.

1413
02:09:42,190 --> 02:09:48,270
70 decibels is what's allowed at any time within that district and when we're

1414
02:09:48,270 --> 02:09:53,310
talking about the sound level limits for live entertainment and that's at the

1415
02:09:53,310 --> 02:09:59,070
property line that's not at the point of disbursement of that noise.

1416
02:10:01,120 --> 02:10:30,000
So right now at an overview, we have a loud locations, a central business district. The current license deposit is $1,300. This is within our existing ordinance for retaining that same deposit. And I say deposit because depending on the level of demand on review, an example, the scale goes from a business that is a restaurant that has acoustic

1417
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:33,120
acoustic music and no alcohol, that'd be basic.

1418
02:10:33,320 --> 02:10:38,100
You don't have an ABC license, you don't have any requirements for police background checks.

1419
02:10:38,480 --> 02:10:41,440
You've got someone that's got someone in the corner playing an acoustic guitar.

1420
02:10:42,500 --> 02:10:48,120
The review on that is very simple, they don't even have any expansion to their facilities,

1421
02:10:48,340 --> 02:10:50,080
no patio expansion or anything like that.

1422
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:56,560
That'd be a brief staff review, probably related to building safety, maybe planning.

1423
02:10:57,460 --> 02:11:06,720
Now, you take something to the other FARC stream where you have someone that maybe has a space where they have dancing, where they have live music, that's amplified music, they have an alcohol license.

1424
02:11:07,720 --> 02:11:15,720
Now, we have to review their enforcement permit with the City Council for alcohol, ABC license.

1425
02:11:16,360 --> 02:11:20,460
If they haven't had complete background checks on ownership, that would need to be done.

1426
02:11:20,460 --> 02:11:27,460
So now you start to add in more departments, building in safety if they have a patio area, fire department if they have a patio area.

1427
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:37,660
So again, a deposit that may, portions of that may be refunded or all of it may be used depending on the stringency of what they're requiring.

1428
02:11:38,300 --> 02:11:44,020
Number of performers, I put a asterisks next to some things that were major changes or at least some changes.

1429
02:11:44,020 --> 02:11:52,820
It was pointed out to me by a couple of the businesses that our current ordinance required that any

1430
02:11:52,820 --> 02:12:01,300
live performances had to be less than four members in the band, which I think at least one person in the council

1431
02:12:01,300 --> 02:12:04,380
can relate to many bands around here that have less than four people.

1432
02:12:04,880 --> 02:12:11,300
So that was problematic, let alone Maryachee or any larger groups or brass or something like that.

1433
02:12:13,300 --> 02:12:20,200
Location restrictions, it's indoor or approved patio space, and approved patio space as a couple of different layers.

1434
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:26,820
One is if it's obviously, it's outdoor dining with the patio as it's related to a restaurant.

1435
02:12:27,040 --> 02:12:35,380
But if there's alcohol served, there's requirements from the ABC as far as what's allowed for outdoor patio alcohol service,

1436
02:12:35,380 --> 02:12:40,740
which requires a barrier between public space and private space.

1437
02:12:41,420 --> 02:12:43,940
So that, all of those things come into play.

1438
02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:50,380
In addition, if it's a patio space, it needs to be reviewed and approved by fire department and

1439
02:12:50,380 --> 02:12:57,460
building safety and ensure that if it has a covering, it's safe and that there's access in and out of that patio space from a fire protection standpoint.

1440
02:12:57,460 --> 02:13:04,060
point. So that's the term approved patio space with that would be based on their license

1441
02:13:04,940 --> 02:13:08,720
application that it defines where the space is and that it's reviewed by the appropriate

1442
02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:10,740
departments and approved.

1443
02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:18,180
Excuse me, just a second, Mr. Mason, Council Member Fires has quick question. So I realize when

1444
02:13:18,180 --> 02:13:22,360
you just mentioned about an approved patio space, if they have to get an ABC license, it's

1445
02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:26,860
more or less like a beer garden scenario for patio. But I looked for and I couldn't find

1446
02:13:26,860 --> 02:13:33,360
Anywhere where the description or restrictions on what is defined as a approved patio space?

1447
02:13:33,700 --> 02:13:39,540
As I just said, it would be what is approved based on what they submit it within their application,

1448
02:13:39,780 --> 02:13:45,260
as a space that they want to use for a patio, that they're defining that, and that it meets our requirements

1449
02:13:45,260 --> 02:13:49,260
from the building and safety and fire department.

1450
02:13:49,520 --> 02:13:54,540
So as long as they define that as they want to outdoor space for dining and music,

1451
02:13:54,540 --> 02:13:59,960
And that it meets the code requirements of building code and fire code and then that would be fine.

1452
02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:01,100
Okay, thank you very much.

1453
02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:01,840
Thank you.

1454
02:14:01,900 --> 02:14:11,440
I have a follow up to that same, but I'm going to ask regarding the defining indoor for practicable purposes.

1455
02:14:14,060 --> 02:14:23,180
Your business having a mariachi band or any group would have to have these requirements met for music,

1456
02:14:23,180 --> 02:14:25,820
even if their business establishes and goes beyond that time frame?

1457
02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:30,360
We're talking about time limits now.

1458
02:14:31,140 --> 02:14:35,860
Well, it says that this, you're putting restrictions on indoor, right?

1459
02:14:36,420 --> 02:14:40,080
You're making rules regarding indoor activity of a business.

1460
02:14:41,000 --> 02:14:47,080
Indoor, live music or amplified music would fall under this category and has consistently

1461
02:14:47,080 --> 02:14:49,780
fall under this, that's our way, this is not a change in order.

1462
02:14:49,820 --> 02:14:52,440
So we have multiple event centers coming to town,

1463
02:14:52,440 --> 02:14:56,440
La Terraza and the other one, we also have Palacios.

1464
02:14:56,820 --> 02:14:58,140
How do they comply with this?

1465
02:14:58,360 --> 02:14:58,840
They're in door.

1466
02:14:59,360 --> 02:14:59,980
The one.

1467
02:15:00,900 --> 02:15:06,560
It's, like, Palazio, for instance, is under a CUP and it's generally private events. And that

1468
02:15:06,560 --> 02:15:12,400
will get to that when we get to exemptions. If it's a private event or fits under other

1469
02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:17,320
different classifications, then it doesn't fit within this ordinance. It still fits within

1470
02:15:17,320 --> 02:15:25,680
our noise ordinance. It still fits within a couple other ones, unruly gatherings and other

1471
02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:31,920
things like that. And then time limits amplified entertainment right now

1472
02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:38,740
Monday through Thursday, 5 to 9 Friday, 5 to 10, Saturday, noon to 10, and Sunday noon to 9.

1473
02:15:39,920 --> 02:15:48,760
Had discussions with several businesses and also with just other residents of things like

1474
02:15:48,760 --> 02:15:56,260
Well, when you think about major urban areas and live music and or entertainment, a lot

1475
02:15:56,260 --> 02:16:02,880
of restaurants that serve alcohol are open till 1 a.m. or up until midnight, and even

1476
02:16:02,880 --> 02:16:07,020
downtown Ventura when the sidewalks aren't rolled up.

1477
02:16:08,900 --> 02:16:18,740
But the intent in this was to kind of test this as far as times because we just don't have

1478
02:16:18,740 --> 02:16:31,640
of moving too far into late night activity in a community that's not used to that and having the pendulum swing the other way to where this is too much and for us to push the limits too much.

1479
02:16:31,780 --> 02:16:37,220
So this is kind of to test the water based on times that's very consistent with what we have right now.

1480
02:16:37,900 --> 02:16:47,000
And as I said at the kind of the preface to this, I look at this as somewhat of an organic ordinance and as we look at our code update depending on where we are in that cycle,

1481
02:16:47,000 --> 02:16:51,280
So we may want to revisit this based on those hours, but I think the key is to see,

1482
02:16:52,060 --> 02:16:55,360
test this and see how this works, both for the businesses and for the community.

1483
02:16:55,860 --> 02:17:02,900
My hope is, entertainment and activity in a central business district is the lifeblood of a community.

1484
02:17:03,660 --> 02:17:08,800
And I can see, at some point, it being actual, an actual attraction for

1485
02:17:08,800 --> 02:17:13,940
people wanting to live and develop housing downtown because it's an activity center where people would want to live and do things.

1486
02:17:16,120 --> 02:17:21,800
And then the other kind of caveat to that is extended hours on holidays can be approved by

1487
02:17:21,800 --> 02:17:25,500
city manager or designee within a request within 10 days in advance.

1488
02:17:25,740 --> 02:17:29,440
So if there's a special event or something associated with something that somebody wants

1489
02:17:29,440 --> 02:17:32,020
to do that's one off, there's an opportunity for that.

1490
02:17:33,100 --> 02:17:38,720
I don't at this point the ordinance doesn't have a limit to how many times that can happen

1491
02:17:38,720 --> 02:17:42,200
within a year, but basically it's based on a request and approval.

1492
02:17:43,260 --> 02:17:48,000
The enforcement policy is really compliance with the Santa

1493
02:17:48,000 --> 02:17:51,160
Poly Municipal Code and no verifiable complaints.

1494
02:17:51,640 --> 02:17:55,900
So the ordinance talks about complaints that with six

1495
02:17:55,900 --> 02:18:00,200
complaints, verified complaints, license could be revoked.

1496
02:18:00,600 --> 02:18:04,440
And the key to verifiable complaints is that complaints are

1497
02:18:04,440 --> 02:18:09,420
violations of the municipal code, violations of building

1498
02:18:09,420 --> 02:18:16,560
in code or violations of, in case of alcohol, violations of their enforcement agreement with City Council and their ABC license.

1499
02:18:17,060 --> 02:18:26,740
So really what it comes down to is the statutory and code requirements that they have to fulfill to operate as a business if they're in violation of that.

1500
02:18:27,320 --> 02:18:36,880
And I say complaint based, but those complaints need to align with that, and maybe I don't say this flippantly, but if somebody just didn't like the kind of music, that's not a complaint.

1501
02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:03,200
It needs to be in alignment with our code.

1502
02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:07,360
on whether they approve of that type of activity.

1503
02:19:08,100 --> 02:19:16,780
Their approval does not, their approval as a license is not contingent on the approval of their neighbor.

1504
02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:20,560
It's just for us to get an indication of where there may be complaints.

1505
02:19:21,160 --> 02:19:31,680
Again, the only thing that creates a loss of their permit or impact of their permit is a violation of city code.

1506
02:19:31,680 --> 02:19:32,600
And

1507
02:19:34,650 --> 02:19:38,410
then we're going backwards.

1508
02:19:40,740 --> 02:19:43,180
So again, mentioned the amendments.

1509
02:19:44,120 --> 02:19:48,740
One thing we did change throughout the whole thing, before it said cafe entertainment,

1510
02:19:49,660 --> 02:19:51,260
we changed it to dining entertainment.

1511
02:19:51,400 --> 02:19:54,220
It was just more clear cafe, it can mean a lot of different things.

1512
02:19:55,420 --> 02:19:59,680
And again, we changed, we're talking about the number of individuals.

1513
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:29,160
Those that are allowed to perform fewer than four, we removed that section in there. And then we also added within permit location if there's a change of ownership of more than 10% or an alteration to the existing facility. So if somebody has a license in place but we have a new owner, we need to make sure that we have a background check. If there's, especially if there's alcohol involved, that's an ABC requirement. And then also if there's an alteration to the facility.

1514
02:20:29,160 --> 02:20:32,580
They're going to submit how they're going to use the facility, what the layout is, and

1515
02:20:32,580 --> 02:20:36,080
if there's a change in that, that can impact fire and building and safety codes.

1516
02:20:37,500 --> 02:20:41,080
Limitations on outdoor dining permits should say dining again.

1517
02:20:41,320 --> 02:20:44,480
Dining entertainment is limited to ground level and approved patio areas.

1518
02:20:47,610 --> 02:20:49,510
Talked about the time already.

1519
02:20:52,090 --> 02:20:56,830
And then permit modifications, suspension, revocation, progressive enforcement for noise

1520
02:20:56,830 --> 02:20:59,930
complaints with escalating actions up to 12 months suspension.

1521
02:21:00,850 --> 02:21:07,030
if the permit after six valid complaints, and again, complaints that are in alignment with the municipal code.

1522
02:21:07,830 --> 02:21:29,830
One thing we have yet to do, and that's to work with the police department on actual sound metering, we've done some research on devices, you can get a sound device on your phone, but it's not certified, it's not calibrated, and it definitely wouldn't hold up in court.

1523
02:21:29,830 --> 02:21:39,790
So, that's our goal is to find the right sound measuring instrument that we can use for the city, and it will be helpful for a lot of other things for construction and code enforcement too.

1524
02:21:41,310 --> 02:21:49,830
And then public notification, as I mentioned, all adjacent neighbors adjacent property lines must be contacted by the applicant at intent of the entertainment.

1525
02:21:50,750 --> 02:21:53,150
just really quickly going through exemptions.

1526
02:21:53,210 --> 02:21:58,030
The following types of entertainment establishment are exempt from permit requirements.

1527
02:21:58,290 --> 02:22:01,170
So entertainment authorized through a special event or park event.

1528
02:22:01,730 --> 02:22:06,850
Entertainment held at a city owned facility authorized pursuant to a contract.

1529
02:22:08,810 --> 02:22:15,810
Entertainment sponsored by the city, by the county, various boards of education, any political subdivision of the state of California.

1530
02:22:15,810 --> 02:22:18,690
a charter school's educational or instructional program,

1531
02:22:19,050 --> 02:22:22,590
then entertainment provided by radio, music recording machine,

1532
02:22:22,870 --> 02:22:25,150
jukebox television, video games, video programs,

1533
02:22:25,450 --> 02:22:26,390
recorded music.

1534
02:22:26,870 --> 02:22:30,930
So really this is about live, either amplified

1535
02:22:30,930 --> 02:22:34,450
or unamplified music, it's a band playing, or a DJ.

1536
02:22:35,290 --> 02:22:38,230
Exemptions, entertainment provided by private clubs,

1537
02:22:38,810 --> 02:22:40,250
entertainment provided by private residents,

1538
02:22:40,630 --> 02:22:42,730
entertainment provided by nonprofit organizations,

1539
02:22:43,470 --> 02:22:48,450
entertainment in theaters, entertainment through dance lessons, theatrical and performing arts,

1540
02:22:48,790 --> 02:22:53,150
entertainment through book readings, book signings, poetry, and spoken word.

1541
02:22:53,630 --> 02:22:56,730
And entertainment provided at fundraisers for political causes.

1542
02:23:00,270 --> 02:23:08,290
That was kind of quick through that, but I'm open to questions interested to hear public comment.

1543
02:23:09,150 --> 02:23:14,650
At this point, we would have questions for verification, then we'll go to public comment and then discussion.

1544
02:23:15,430 --> 02:23:19,350
So do I have any questions by council members before we move to public comment?

1545
02:23:20,050 --> 02:23:22,510
I have questions, but I think I'd like to hear the public comment first.

1546
02:23:22,810 --> 02:23:23,530
Shall we do that then?

1547
02:23:23,870 --> 02:23:25,130
Okay, let's go ahead with that.

1548
02:23:25,330 --> 02:23:26,050
Thank you, Mr. Mason.

1549
02:23:26,410 --> 02:23:26,750
Thank you.

1550
02:23:29,150 --> 02:23:31,870
Okay, we have public comment.

1551
02:23:32,110 --> 02:23:33,810
We call Valerie Valencia.

1552
02:23:42,390 --> 02:23:46,790
So I'm here to, my name is Valerie, and I'm a resident of Santa Paula.

1553
02:23:46,790 --> 02:23:47,830
I

1554
02:23:49,850 --> 02:23:50,310
want to hear you.

1555
02:23:51,210 --> 02:23:57,770
I'm here to discuss the ordinance of 1339, chapter 124.

1556
02:23:58,550 --> 02:24:08,710
I've heard that there were being enforced on a minority on a woman-owned business here

1557
02:24:08,710 --> 02:24:13,330
in town, and I'm wondering if this enforcement is being implemented for all small businesses.

1558
02:24:14,530 --> 02:24:19,190
When I first moved here to Santa Paula, there was not much here.

1559
02:24:19,870 --> 02:24:21,890
We didn't have, you know, we had very few restaurants.

1560
02:24:22,450 --> 02:24:23,610
We didn't have a grocery store.

1561
02:24:23,710 --> 02:24:24,770
We didn't have a movie theater.

1562
02:24:25,970 --> 02:24:29,950
And after several years, that has changed, and I have seen more businesses opening up

1563
02:24:29,950 --> 02:24:33,230
in our community, which makes me very happy for our growth.

1564
02:24:34,210 --> 02:24:39,730
Prior to these new business coming to our town, I would go out of town, instead because

1565
02:24:39,730 --> 02:24:41,870
there wasn't enough offered here in our community.

1566
02:24:44,130 --> 02:24:49,570
I like the fact now that we have options with regarding to entertainment and eating establishments.

1567
02:24:50,150 --> 02:24:54,610
It saddens me that our leaders of our community want to enforce restrictions on small businesses.

1568
02:24:55,450 --> 02:24:59,770
If you have these restrictions, it affects our financial business not only for their families

1569
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:29,200
But for their workers as well, not to mention the tax revenues that our city receives. I would hate to see our city lose small business owners due to the restrictions our city is trying to enforce. In the state of California, we have a large number of corporate and franchise businesses, but we need to focus on supporting our small business owners. I would ask you to reconsider the restrictions you're trying to put on our small business owners, because I would hate to see them leaving

1570
02:25:29,200 --> 02:25:31,680
and close in our doors and live in our community.

1571
02:25:32,760 --> 02:25:33,340
Thank you.

1572
02:25:34,540 --> 02:25:35,340
Thank you.

1573
02:25:36,820 --> 02:25:39,660
Next comment, Elizabeth Arrenas.

1574
02:25:50,000 --> 02:25:51,180
Good evening, councilmembers.

1575
02:25:51,540 --> 02:25:52,960
Mayor, my name is Elizabeth.

1576
02:25:53,140 --> 02:25:55,300
I am the owner of Edgabriture Restaurant on Main Street.

1577
02:25:55,820 --> 02:25:57,200
I'm here to discuss the new ordinance

1578
02:25:57,200 --> 02:25:59,340
regarding the Dynand Live Entertainment.

1579
02:25:59,940 --> 02:26:02,200
After reading the initial draft multiple times,

1580
02:26:02,740 --> 02:26:04,040
I found it very complicated.

1581
02:26:04,720 --> 02:26:07,240
The second draft introduced to additional requirements

1582
02:26:07,240 --> 02:26:10,740
making it even more restrictive for downtown businesses.

1583
02:26:11,500 --> 02:26:14,620
Have you ever looking to the noise, time, and parking ordinance?

1584
02:26:16,140 --> 02:26:18,240
New dining in front of...

1585
02:26:18,960 --> 02:26:21,900
So we have tables and chairs in front of our establishment.

1586
02:26:22,940 --> 02:26:26,400
So unless we are 50 between feet of the driveway,

1587
02:26:26,860 --> 02:26:29,140
either, and there's two driveways next to us.

1588
02:26:29,780 --> 02:26:31,620
So this is something new.

1589
02:26:31,900 --> 02:26:34,740
And as you guys know, since it's been Vince's coffee shop

1590
02:26:34,740 --> 02:26:41,480
that restaurant's been there since 1979. It is Vintage Cafe DBA El Capriccio, but I talked to Alice

1591
02:26:41,480 --> 02:26:46,140
over the weekend, which is the former mayor, the former mayor, I'm sorry, the former owner, Alice

1592
02:26:46,140 --> 02:26:53,280
Montes. And she was, she was surprised to hear all this. So she said she was here years ago,

1593
02:26:53,680 --> 02:27:00,060
also arguing about the tables and the chairs to be outside. The Ornus does not require specific

1594
02:27:00,060 --> 02:27:05,260
specific numbers, a space of parking, but neither does it tell you anything about how much

1595
02:27:05,260 --> 02:27:08,000
spaces needed until the implication is filed.

1596
02:27:08,400 --> 02:27:13,340
That's after I spent the $1300 and gone through all that paperwork.

1597
02:27:15,660 --> 02:27:19,960
So there's going to be more paperwork as what I feel it's going to be, not just submitting

1598
02:27:19,960 --> 02:27:20,740
one application.

1599
02:27:21,320 --> 02:27:23,740
It's confusing permitting requirements.

1600
02:27:24,480 --> 02:27:27,100
It's out on my day, out on my focus on my business.

1601
02:27:27,100 --> 02:27:31,980
I urge the council members to consider the issues and to work with the

1602
02:27:31,980 --> 02:27:36,280
default as a straightforward and practical ordinance that supports a

1603
02:27:36,280 --> 02:27:41,520
downtown business community. And as I wish to grow and expand one day here in

1604
02:27:41,520 --> 02:27:47,980
this town, I was born and raised here and to be doing this is an achievement for

1605
02:27:47,980 --> 02:27:52,940
me. Maybe you guys don't see it that way because it's tiny, but you guys

1606
02:27:52,940 --> 02:27:54,840
Let's watch. Thank you.

1607
02:27:57,500 --> 02:28:01,160
Thank you. I don't see any other public comment at this point.

1608
02:28:01,340 --> 02:28:03,600
We're going to open to discussion or other questions.

1609
02:28:05,740 --> 02:28:12,680
Right there. Mr. Macy, can you share how this process was to bring this up to Council?

1610
02:28:15,390 --> 02:28:19,890
I'm sorry, how the process was. Yeah, like this is coming to us as a first reading, right?

1611
02:28:20,070 --> 02:28:24,970
But what's, what work has been done behind the scenes to get this to come to forward to us?

1612
02:28:27,450 --> 02:28:35,380
We looked at other cities as far as what they had, we looked at what we have as far as

1613
02:28:35,380 --> 02:28:40,480
an existing ordinance, really minor changes to the existing ordinance.

1614
02:28:40,720 --> 02:28:47,940
We just wanted to, we did go to planning commission to get some feedback from them, and

1615
02:28:48,400 --> 02:28:50,540
which wasn't necessary, but we went through that process.

1616
02:28:50,540 --> 02:28:50,720
us.

1617
02:28:50,960 --> 02:28:51,660
What about Peabit?

1618
02:28:52,480 --> 02:28:56,280
Share information with Peabit or any other consulting group of small businesses?

1619
02:28:57,200 --> 02:28:57,820
No.

1620
02:28:58,160 --> 02:28:58,520
We did not.

1621
02:29:02,540 --> 02:29:09,060
And then outreach to businesses I've spoken to that potentially would have or have music.

1622
02:29:10,160 --> 02:29:10,380
Sure.

1623
02:29:11,940 --> 02:29:12,940
You had a question?

1624
02:29:15,600 --> 02:29:15,920
Go ahead.

1625
02:29:16,220 --> 02:29:16,340
Sorry.

1626
02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:22,320
Just a question about the Central Business District and I realize that there's other establishments

1627
02:29:22,320 --> 02:29:24,940
It's off the business district, like on Mill Street, South

1628
02:29:24,940 --> 02:29:27,960
Hill, North Mill, and sometimes they have a lot of music, but

1629
02:29:27,960 --> 02:29:30,800
that might or amplified music, but that might be private

1630
02:29:30,800 --> 02:29:31,240
parties.

1631
02:29:32,320 --> 02:29:36,960
So why aren't these areas not included in the ordinance because

1632
02:29:36,960 --> 02:29:39,580
they're part of the, they're not the central business, but

1633
02:29:39,580 --> 02:29:42,320
they're in that corridor of the business district?

1634
02:29:42,580 --> 02:29:46,680
We, Councilmember, whereas we expanded the central business

1635
02:29:46,680 --> 02:29:49,860
district from where it was before, and we looked at other areas to

1636
02:29:49,860 --> 02:29:52,300
expand, for example, down Mill Street because of

1637
02:29:52,300 --> 02:29:58,500
Glen Tavern, eventually Good Orchard Cafe, but it's not a contiguous business stretch.

1638
02:29:58,500 --> 02:29:59,500
You've got residential.

1639
02:30:00,820 --> 02:30:29,580
So I had traditionally central business districts will morph over time based on development. Right now we don't have that. Glenn Tavern for instance has been long under a conditional use permit, both for private parties and for public events. So it's, as I mentioned, those businesses that are outside of the central business district. This is an existing ordinance and with some modifications are existing ordinance and are existing.

1640
02:30:29,580 --> 02:30:34,940
municipal code has live entertainment within the central business district, anything outside

1641
02:30:34,940 --> 02:30:38,700
of the central business district comes under a conditional use permit if it's ongoing.

1642
02:30:39,420 --> 02:30:45,360
If it's a one time or a periodic thing, it could be a temporary use permit.

1643
02:30:45,560 --> 02:30:48,640
Let's say within a year they're going to have three events they could do a temporary use

1644
02:30:48,640 --> 02:30:49,240
permit for that.

1645
02:30:49,400 --> 02:30:51,440
So there's other paths and options.

1646
02:30:53,060 --> 02:30:57,960
More specifically to that point, there may be some opportunity to expand our central business

1647
02:30:57,960 --> 02:31:02,800
district and expand the Peabit but that's will be incremental over the years depending on what

1648
02:31:02,800 --> 02:31:07,300
the demand and the opportunity is. And I don't want to open Penter's box but just something to

1649
02:31:07,300 --> 02:31:13,220
consider years ago there would be bands of two three you know Spanish style music and singers

1650
02:31:13,220 --> 02:31:17,880
that would just go a restaurant to restaurant and play. Now it doesn't seem to fall into this where

1651
02:31:17,880 --> 02:31:23,000
it's part of the establishment but how would we handle something like that if they start coming in

1652
02:31:23,000 --> 02:31:27,540
again in the future. Now it's just interesting you say that because I was looking through our

1653
02:31:27,540 --> 02:31:31,960
ordinance because I was, I haven't seen much in Ventura County from a standpoint of,

1654
02:31:32,240 --> 02:31:37,400
you know, what they would call buskers or people that, you know, play music either on the street or would.

1655
02:31:37,920 --> 02:31:43,400
And so we really don't have anything clear within our ordinance that defines that maybe something we want to look at at some point.

1656
02:31:43,560 --> 02:31:50,580
Because on regulated it can be a really attractive thing for a community and for a downtown unregulated it can be a nightmare.

1657
02:31:50,940 --> 02:31:52,000
But anyway.

1658
02:31:52,000 --> 02:31:52,240
Yeah.

1659
02:31:52,820 --> 02:31:59,780
And just a suggestion, since you do list the decibels for the noise ordinance or the music ordinance,

1660
02:32:00,320 --> 02:32:06,340
it would probably might be a good idea to find out what devices are acceptable for the court in case it does make it to the court.

1661
02:32:06,640 --> 02:32:12,780
And they're probably going to mandate that those be calibrated frequently before and after use and so forth.

1662
02:32:13,200 --> 02:32:13,740
I appreciate that.

1663
02:32:14,080 --> 02:32:14,340
Thank you.

1664
02:32:18,740 --> 02:32:19,580
Councilmember Crosswright.

1665
02:32:19,980 --> 02:32:21,600
I'm trying to figure out where to start.

1666
02:32:23,180 --> 02:32:34,200
So I want to start with the definition of outdoor dining because it talks about sit-down

1667
02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:34,820
restaurants.

1668
02:32:35,840 --> 02:32:42,880
So we have establishments, one of them had a star on it that isn't technically outdoor

1669
02:32:43,510 --> 02:32:49,060
dining or a sit-down restaurant, but has outdoor live entertainment.

1670
02:32:49,060 --> 02:32:55,790
Are we saying that that falls under a different thing, but it's in the Central Business District?

1671
02:32:56,110 --> 02:33:04,010
There are currently under a CUP that was under a broader use that involved market and

1672
02:33:04,010 --> 02:33:07,530
other broad uses within when they did their CUP.

1673
02:33:08,630 --> 02:33:12,950
So the CUP, that CUP includes the live entertainment?

1674
02:33:13,910 --> 02:33:19,510
One thing we haven't addressed yet, and that's what is the transition for some of the other

1675
02:33:19,510 --> 02:33:23,590
the things that we may have in town from a standpoint of grandfathered versus coming

1676
02:33:23,590 --> 02:33:28,330
under this permit and we have a discussion about that.

1677
02:33:28,510 --> 02:33:33,410
That was another question I had because I wouldn't want us to so if some places are already

1678
02:33:34,890 --> 02:33:36,210
have different roles.

1679
02:33:36,970 --> 02:33:37,070
Right.

1680
02:33:37,310 --> 02:33:43,870
We need to find a path to bring everyone under the same level of compliance and requirements

1681
02:33:43,870 --> 02:33:48,690
and just I'm not sure, we haven't kind of

1682
02:33:49,810 --> 02:33:52,490
approached that process yet, but that'd be

1683
02:33:52,490 --> 02:33:53,370
the next thing to look at.

1684
02:33:56,410 --> 02:33:56,890
A

1685
02:33:59,900 --> 02:34:00,840
couple of other questions.

1686
02:34:01,360 --> 02:34:03,080
If someone has a question why I look for mine.

1687
02:34:03,540 --> 02:34:04,040
Let's go.

1688
02:34:04,720 --> 02:34:05,480
Thank you, Mayor Cornel.

1689
02:34:06,100 --> 02:34:08,700
What year did the ordinance go into a fact regarding the noise?

1690
02:34:11,240 --> 02:34:12,140
What year did...

1691
02:34:12,140 --> 02:34:16,640
Yeah, when the ordinance was created regarding the noise issue,

1692
02:34:18,320 --> 02:34:19,540
when was that created?

1693
02:34:19,540 --> 02:34:26,380
And the reason why I'm asking Mr. Mason is, you know, there seems to be a level of urgency

1694
02:34:26,380 --> 02:34:32,880
on this issue and I don't really feel that there should be because we're in the midst

1695
02:34:32,880 --> 02:34:42,020
of trying to create a thriving downtown and the decision on the kind of downtown we want

1696
02:34:42,020 --> 02:34:51,520
is made by this council in regards to sensible enforcement right we're

1697
02:34:54,240 --> 02:34:59,060
creating additional obstacles for something where we can't we have other

1698
02:34:59,060 --> 02:34:59,620
more important.

1699
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:29,980
Issues to deal with. I appreciate businesses I try to bring nightlife here because the majority of people here are under 18 and the vast majority of the average age is 28. So businesses that are creating nightlife so that residents can stay here instead of going to Ventura, I think it's part of the change in culture that we're seeing in our community. People move to the woods because they want to be quiet. People don't move downtown because they want to

1700
02:35:29,980 --> 02:35:35,460
to be quiet. They want nightlife. They want community. They want engagement. And we have

1701
02:35:35,460 --> 02:35:40,700
businesses that are going to be coming, as you've noted earlier regarding event centers

1702
02:35:40,700 --> 02:35:46,880
and having more traffic downtown. And, you know, those people are going to be attracted

1703
02:35:46,880 --> 02:35:52,400
by the fact that you have a restaurant that could be open providing entertainment past nine

1704
02:35:52,400 --> 02:35:57,060
o'clock or ten o'clock. And those things I think are really important as we think about

1705
02:35:57,060 --> 02:36:05,620
this and this could be an issue of timing. As you mentioned, it being about, or being organic,

1706
02:36:07,080 --> 02:36:12,500
we're barely scratching the surface when it comes to developing a more substantial night life

1707
02:36:12,500 --> 02:36:16,320
here and I think we've got to give that, our business is an opportunity, especially the ones that

1708
02:36:16,320 --> 02:36:21,740
are coming in, to help us develop policy in the future. I know people are always in a complaint

1709
02:36:21,740 --> 02:36:26,480
about noise, you know? That's just a reality of life, right? Everyone's going to complain about

1710
02:36:26,480 --> 02:36:33,220
That's something, but I think for the greater good we got to let our businesses help us, and

1711
02:36:33,220 --> 02:36:44,040
maybe this could be an opportunity to work with them and the new ones that are coming in as well to help us create sensible policies that are enforceable, actually enforceable.

1712
02:36:44,240 --> 02:36:53,000
And so I'm really in favor and I'm speaking for the young people because I remember when I was 28 and 29, I want to go hang out, I want to have a couple of drinks, I want to walk downtown.

1713
02:36:53,000 --> 02:36:56,320
And I got that chance because I lived in LA in Hollywood.

1714
02:36:57,040 --> 02:36:59,300
But the people here want that same opportunity.

1715
02:36:59,600 --> 02:37:02,400
And so we want businesses that provide that.

1716
02:37:02,640 --> 02:37:05,160
And so I don't see the level of urgency on this.

1717
02:37:05,200 --> 02:37:10,220
I think we have to do some more work on the ground so

1718
02:37:10,220 --> 02:37:15,000
that we can really have a conversation as what do our people want?

1719
02:37:15,680 --> 02:37:19,300
In terms of the kind of entertainment and spaces that are going to

1720
02:37:19,300 --> 02:37:22,200
bring at the end of the day a nightlife tax revenue.

1721
02:37:22,200 --> 02:37:25,280
And I applaud those businesses that are bringing those tax revenues.

1722
02:37:25,860 --> 02:37:32,220
9 o'clock or 10 o'clock, I mean, do we really want people driving, drinking, and

1723
02:37:32,220 --> 02:37:33,720
driving outside of the city limits?

1724
02:37:34,540 --> 02:37:39,000
Let's have them stay local, drink local, and have a good time here.

1725
02:37:39,760 --> 02:37:47,900
And so I really see this as a little premature, unless you can explain to me a little bit more

1726
02:37:47,900 --> 02:37:50,920
of the urgency in bringing this up at this moment in time?

1727
02:37:52,980 --> 02:37:59,480
Ms. Mayor, the real urgency was to just, we can work with the ordinance as it is and

1728
02:37:59,480 --> 02:38:04,380
work through that process, but some of the limitations are still there.

1729
02:38:04,760 --> 02:38:13,660
So the question is, this was an attempt to provide some modifications that, again, a recommendation

1730
02:38:15,080 --> 02:38:20,500
I am very attuned to what you're saying from the standpoint, and I say this a lot.

1731
02:38:20,620 --> 02:38:24,740
What we have as far as ordinance process and everything else is to ensure that we have

1732
02:38:24,740 --> 02:38:30,840
the ability to enforce things and maintain order, but ultimately everything that we have is

1733
02:38:30,840 --> 02:38:34,080
to serve a community and serve people and what their needs and what their desires are.

1734
02:38:34,220 --> 02:38:37,920
So you have to, that's the lens we definitely need to look through.

1735
02:38:38,340 --> 02:38:39,460
And we're trying to do that.

1736
02:38:39,460 --> 02:38:45,740
And I'll just add one last thing, when I look at rules that are very defined as, okay,

1737
02:38:46,420 --> 02:38:48,900
Monday to Friday, Saturday, schedule, right?

1738
02:38:50,060 --> 02:38:55,180
We need to have some flexibility, because the reality is we want nightlife, maybe not

1739
02:38:55,180 --> 02:39:01,920
all year round, but potentially maybe have some sort of exception, or maybe later hours

1740
02:39:01,920 --> 02:39:03,860
during summer, right?

1741
02:39:04,020 --> 02:39:08,140
Because we, again, those are the months where we have a more thriving community coming out,

1742
02:39:08,140 --> 02:39:12,700
And wanting to spend their dollars because of the weather right so I think we want some flexibility as well

1743
02:39:12,700 --> 02:39:17,200
I would see some flexibility in the timing at least for a certain part of the year as well.

1744
02:39:20,380 --> 02:39:22,600
I have one question actually too.

1745
02:39:24,000 --> 02:39:26,820
If these are in compliance with our noise

1746
02:39:28,020 --> 02:39:29,560
restrictions in the city

1747
02:39:30,840 --> 02:39:33,180
Were we to pick a later hour?

1748
02:39:34,000 --> 02:39:39,080
Would that go in would that conflict with the noise ordinances that we have in the city?

1749
02:39:40,140 --> 02:39:48,540
Mayor, as our noise ordinance stands right now within business districts, the decibel level is 24-7.

1750
02:39:49,020 --> 02:39:53,240
So it's 70 all the time.

1751
02:39:53,480 --> 02:39:55,500
So it doesn't create a conflict of hours.

1752
02:39:56,120 --> 02:39:59,080
And the thing, it was brought to my attention that, you know,

1753
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:29,880
70 decibels could be allowed conversation, but that's at this point right here, but as our ordinance defines, it's that property line, so depending on what's done as far as sound attenuation, how, how speakers are set up and everything else, that's off property. So that's gotta be significant. The people that are within that space, if it's in 70 at the edge, they're probably not having conversations and having your damage. So that's, there's some flexibility with them.

1754
02:40:29,880 --> 02:40:39,780
My other question is, were we not to pass this this evening, the changes to the ordinance?

1755
02:40:42,120 --> 02:40:46,400
Would that create problems for any existing businesses that we have?

1756
02:40:46,620 --> 02:40:50,200
For example, the number of performers allowed.

1757
02:40:51,200 --> 02:40:58,420
So if we don't change that, it remains at a maximum for by ordinance, by current ordinance.

1758
02:40:58,960 --> 02:41:03,380
So it seems like to help businesses at least in that, that part needs to change.

1759
02:41:04,540 --> 02:41:10,260
So I don't know, creates a problem where we're struggling with part of it, but

1760
02:41:10,260 --> 02:41:11,740
we want to help in the other way.

1761
02:41:11,960 --> 02:41:18,860
In the end, we'd like to help the community, we'd like to make it better for

1762
02:41:19,220 --> 02:41:22,760
the business owners to do what they want to do.

1763
02:41:24,780 --> 02:41:27,660
So it's a little bit complicated as it is right now.

1764
02:41:27,660 --> 02:41:30,580
How can I add one quick thing before I lose my memory?

1765
02:41:31,240 --> 02:41:32,360
Do you want to know a lot about the second era?

1766
02:41:35,310 --> 02:41:38,570
Let's say you have a business and we have this curfew, right?

1767
02:41:40,950 --> 02:41:43,290
You're also regulating what happens inside, right?

1768
02:41:43,550 --> 02:41:45,090
So which means if the curfew is 10 o'clock,

1769
02:41:45,090 --> 02:41:48,130
you're telling me that the business can't go even though it's indoors,

1770
02:41:48,890 --> 02:41:50,490
it can't go past 10 o'clock?

1771
02:41:52,470 --> 02:41:54,210
Music, can't go past 10 o'clock.

1772
02:41:54,350 --> 02:41:57,530
If it's indoors, again, we're regulating, creating

1773
02:41:57,530 --> 02:42:00,450
in order to regulate inside a building.

1774
02:42:01,150 --> 02:42:03,210
I'm sorry, but if you have a choice, right?

1775
02:42:03,430 --> 02:42:05,550
And you want to be in there, you choose to be in there.

1776
02:42:05,970 --> 02:42:09,170
How is the noise factor going to impact something

1777
02:42:09,170 --> 02:42:14,370
that happens inside a contained area, especially

1778
02:42:14,370 --> 02:42:17,670
in our downtown where we don't have a lot of housing, right?

1779
02:42:17,930 --> 02:42:21,110
So shouldn't our businesses be free if they want to have music

1780
02:42:21,110 --> 02:42:22,630
that's contained within their structure?

1781
02:42:23,030 --> 02:42:24,210
It's not outside, right?

1782
02:42:24,470 --> 02:42:25,030
It's inside.

1783
02:42:25,550 --> 02:42:26,710
Shouldn't we have some flexibility

1784
02:42:26,710 --> 02:42:33,630
ability and maybe massaging the ordinance so that it's not to the level of that type of restriction.

1785
02:42:34,550 --> 02:42:40,110
I have two suggestions, one with the help of our attorney.

1786
02:42:40,370 --> 02:42:47,630
The first one is, as stated within our ordinance, understanding of the climate that we're in,

1787
02:42:48,310 --> 02:42:53,750
it's pretty normal for indoor businesses to have windows that are open, doors that are open,

1788
02:42:53,750 --> 02:42:57,590
and that kind of has a little bit more flow in space

1789
02:42:57,590 --> 02:42:59,950
than you would have in other areas of the country.

1790
02:43:00,390 --> 02:43:03,430
So, and more of what we're getting as far as businesses

1791
02:43:03,430 --> 02:43:10,170
that case in point Park, 1055, they will have an outdoor space.

1792
02:43:10,350 --> 02:43:12,310
They could do entertainment indoors too

1793
02:43:12,310 --> 02:43:13,370
based on the size of their space.

1794
02:43:13,650 --> 02:43:14,830
All their doors roll up.

1795
02:43:15,450 --> 02:43:19,710
So, they've got two major doors on the eastern side

1796
02:43:19,710 --> 02:43:22,830
of their facility that will be basically indoors

1797
02:43:22,830 --> 02:43:28,070
the outdoors becomes outdoors. So that was kind of the thought process behind that.

1798
02:43:28,630 --> 02:43:33,310
But to kind of overshadow that, we're here with you for our first reading.

1799
02:43:34,030 --> 02:43:43,150
We've got feedback from community. And I don't, the question is, is there enough information

1800
02:43:43,650 --> 02:43:48,570
that there could be guidance from council on some modifications that if we came back with the

1801
02:43:48,570 --> 02:43:52,990
second reading, it would make enough sense to move forward.

1802
02:43:54,070 --> 02:43:58,470
So we don't, so the mayor's comment, we don't lose kind of don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

1803
02:43:58,590 --> 02:44:04,510
There's a few things in here that could be instrumental to businesses being a succeed.

1804
02:44:04,890 --> 02:44:06,310
So that's my thought in this.

1805
02:44:08,640 --> 02:44:16,080
I can make a suggestion for an approach that kind of allows us to move forward with something tonight.

1806
02:44:16,080 --> 02:44:25,180
It sounds like the limit of four persons in, I guess, the musical entertaining is a little

1807
02:44:25,180 --> 02:44:36,960
restrictive and restrictive. So, you know, I would say some of the more common sense

1808
02:44:36,960 --> 02:44:45,840
This edits, maybe in the less subjective ones of sound time, that can be pushed to a

1809
02:44:45,840 --> 02:44:48,880
later discussion with more feedback from the community.

1810
02:44:50,040 --> 02:44:53,360
But this is, tonight is just a first reading and introduction.

1811
02:44:53,900 --> 02:44:57,540
This does not have to go back to planning commission, it's not part of the development code.

1812
02:44:57,540 --> 02:44:59,980
These are, this is the,

1813
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:22,000
Basically, permit requirements and procedure. So, you know, that's one option to do, you know, go through your red line and see what of those markups council would like to move forward. And then that will be brought to you again at the next regular meeting for reintroduction.

1814
02:45:26,440 --> 02:45:31,280
community conversation that has to take place, and there's some homework that we have to

1815
02:45:31,280 --> 02:45:39,560
do as the representatives of the community to take this, talk to business owners, talk

1816
02:45:39,560 --> 02:45:46,400
to groups that are involved, maybe take it a p-bid, and for us to also, you know, communicate

1817
02:45:46,400 --> 02:45:53,100
what the intent is, and also come up with maybe recommendations, it's something that I'd

1818
02:45:53,100 --> 02:45:58,040
I would like to see that we do as the elected representatives, because, you know,

1819
02:45:58,240 --> 02:46:00,700
it does change the culture again, right?

1820
02:46:00,880 --> 02:46:02,740
It's going to impact our downtown area.

1821
02:46:03,300 --> 02:46:12,520
We're making a significant, we're creating rules on the kind of downtown we want.

1822
02:46:12,920 --> 02:46:17,560
And I think it goes beyond just the four of us tonight, but five, but.

1823
02:46:18,420 --> 02:46:20,440
Sounds number one, I said at a point.

1824
02:46:20,440 --> 02:46:20,840
Thank you.

1825
02:46:20,920 --> 02:46:21,700
No, we're elected to your side.

1826
02:46:21,820 --> 02:46:23,560
I mean, the best way in charge makes a good point.

1827
02:46:23,700 --> 02:46:25,920
You know, here we want to have a thriving community

1828
02:46:25,920 --> 02:46:29,120
with draw people in and if the sidewalks roll up at 10 o'clock,

1829
02:46:29,960 --> 02:46:32,160
it doesn't really lend itself to a nightlife,

1830
02:46:32,160 --> 02:46:33,180
like you had mentioned.

1831
02:46:34,120 --> 02:46:35,860
Councilmember Sobel and I left here one night

1832
02:46:35,860 --> 02:46:38,560
after meaty went up town and it was last call.

1833
02:46:38,820 --> 02:46:40,220
It's like, wait a minute, it was only like 10 o'clock.

1834
02:46:40,760 --> 02:46:43,840
So anyway, and so you don't want to deter business,

1835
02:46:44,120 --> 02:46:46,860
but on the other hand, how do we promote it?

1836
02:46:47,120 --> 02:46:49,160
And I don't know, for our attorney,

1837
02:46:49,160 --> 02:46:57,440
Do we have anything at our disposal for a variance of any kind, or does it have to be handled as a total ordinance with those changes and edits?

1838
02:46:59,200 --> 02:47:06,460
When it comes to restrictions like this, there's no process to get around it.

1839
02:47:06,800 --> 02:47:16,900
If it's a land use, like CUP, or meeting certain design requirements, you can go through a variance process.

1840
02:47:16,900 --> 02:47:25,860
but that is pretty cumbersome and difficult to prove that you're excused from standards that are real.

1841
02:47:25,860 --> 02:47:26,740
So that's a comply with.

1842
02:47:27,560 --> 02:47:34,220
And I agree, not do anything tonight, as the mayor mentioned, limits you to where we are right now at this moment in time.

1843
02:47:34,220 --> 02:47:41,080
And it's really not beneficial to move forward dealing with ordinances have been in place for 25 years or whatever it is.

1844
02:47:41,080 --> 02:47:56,340
So, one thing I did want to mention, as stated in there, there is a special exception based on application for an event or a seasonal thing that could go past hours or whatever else.

1845
02:47:56,440 --> 02:47:58,520
That's kind of one-off type stuff.

1846
02:47:59,080 --> 02:48:09,420
The other thing I did want to make clear, if we're going to do community outreach, I mean, it's as valuable and challenging to be beyond businesses too,

1847
02:48:09,420 --> 02:48:11,940
because there's residents and other people that will have input.

1848
02:48:12,400 --> 02:48:20,640
So it's understanding what is the general consensus going to be, and I have no idea.

1849
02:48:21,400 --> 02:48:28,160
I mean, it could be overwhelming that this needs to be modified dramatically to ensure that we have that nightlife.

1850
02:48:28,420 --> 02:48:35,080
I mean, that's our economic goal in future, but also there may be feedback that's not supportive.

1851
02:48:35,260 --> 02:48:37,400
So we're always going to get two sides of it.

1852
02:48:37,400 --> 02:48:40,460
So, but that's public process and I think it's important.

1853
02:48:40,560 --> 02:48:46,120
Well, you've been like that 10-day requirement for a special event during the holiday season.

1854
02:48:46,560 --> 02:48:55,760
I mean, it does really say that's that for the time of application or, you know, you have to have it completed by that 10th day and there's 10 business days and so it's 10 days before the event.

1855
02:48:56,160 --> 02:48:58,360
10 days before, yeah, so all right.

1856
02:48:58,640 --> 02:48:59,240
Yeah, thank you.

1857
02:49:01,850 --> 02:49:03,170
Thank you, Mayor Cornel.

1858
02:49:03,750 --> 02:49:08,570
On the slide, you have a lot of groups that are exempt from this, right?

1859
02:49:09,670 --> 02:49:12,430
Can you put up that slide so we can look over to these groups?

1860
02:49:12,810 --> 02:49:12,990
It

1861
02:49:15,870 --> 02:49:16,550
wasn't my family.

1862
02:49:17,110 --> 02:49:17,370
Oh, no.

1863
02:49:40,000 --> 02:49:41,320
So, there's three slides.

1864
02:49:41,520 --> 02:49:42,220
So, that's the first one.

1865
02:49:42,600 --> 02:49:43,720
Special Debt Park event.

1866
02:49:44,480 --> 02:49:45,260
City on facility.

1867
02:49:46,480 --> 02:49:47,620
So, the city is on Apollo.

1868
02:49:47,880 --> 02:49:50,060
We haven't even had various boards of education.

1869
02:49:50,840 --> 02:49:53,520
Any political subdivision of the state of California?

1870
02:49:53,520 --> 02:49:58,020
Can you define political subdivision, Marika?

1871
02:50:00,720 --> 02:50:30,320
So, that's a term of art, and it's very much, it could be like a city or a district, a special district, anything that has a lot of district, a lot of district, yeah. Okay, so a charter school is educational or instructional program, right? So if they do a fundraising event on a Friday, and they want to go to one o'clock in the morning,

1872
02:50:30,320 --> 02:50:34,720
They're fine, right, because it's a charter school or it's for fundraising and educational

1873
02:50:34,720 --> 02:50:35,120
purposes.

1874
02:50:36,720 --> 02:50:43,100
Under that case, since they actually don't, the charter school, it would have to be a charter

1875
02:50:43,100 --> 02:50:44,980
school on the central-

1876
02:50:44,980 --> 02:50:45,640
Mr. Reale.

1877
02:50:46,100 --> 02:50:47,940
I don't think they're in the central business district.

1878
02:50:48,360 --> 02:50:49,460
They're just outside the corner.

1879
02:50:49,640 --> 02:50:54,860
But regardless of that, anything that would be a special event would require either

1880
02:50:54,860 --> 02:50:58,600
a temporary use permit or a conditional use permit, regardless of where they are,

1881
02:50:58,600 --> 02:51:14,540
If it was anything on here in that entertainment sponsored by and the previous page would require a special event permit, temporary use permit, or conditional use permit, which would regulate hours and all the things associated with that.

1882
02:51:14,780 --> 02:51:23,740
And again, when we start to delve into that, we're talking about police presence, security, all those other things that are required when you have an event.

1883
02:51:23,740 --> 02:51:29,440
as opposed to something that happens, could happen every single night as a part of a license.

1884
02:51:30,280 --> 02:51:32,880
But in our language it says indoor, right?

1885
02:51:33,380 --> 02:51:33,420
Right.

1886
02:51:33,500 --> 02:51:44,080
So again, if it goes beyond the indoor, it could, it's going to be, these are going to be exemptions for that as well.

1887
02:51:44,600 --> 02:51:46,520
You're treating basically indoor and outdoor the same.

1888
02:51:47,440 --> 02:51:51,220
And that's one of my concerns is the very different.

1889
02:51:51,220 --> 02:51:59,880
Having loud musicians in an indoor setting is very different than having a bond out side,

1890
02:52:00,760 --> 02:52:00,940
right?

1891
02:52:01,640 --> 02:52:02,580
The noise factor.

1892
02:52:03,060 --> 02:52:08,120
And the choice factor, you choose to go into a place that has a rock and roll band, right?

1893
02:52:09,020 --> 02:52:13,140
We're still regulating the inside of what's taking place in a business.

1894
02:52:13,820 --> 02:52:15,400
As I said before, I think it's,

1895
02:52:18,360 --> 02:52:21,140
it may be to your argument,

1896
02:52:21,140 --> 02:52:26,060
It could be maybe too comprehensive, but also understanding, if you've been down

1897
02:52:26,060 --> 02:52:30,820
Broadway in Nashville or been Hallstead Street in Chicago, every place it's got

1898
02:52:30,820 --> 02:52:34,100
its doors open and walking from place to place, you can't hear yourself.

1899
02:52:34,540 --> 02:52:39,420
But that's, and that's not who we are right now, but yeah, very different.

1900
02:52:40,160 --> 02:52:44,900
But I'm just saying, that's the idea of having open spaces that can be open all the time.

1901
02:52:45,160 --> 02:52:49,620
That was the intent behind this, whether it's right or wrong, that's a recommendation

1902
02:52:49,620 --> 02:52:50,780
at this point.

1903
02:52:51,280 --> 02:53:00,470
It looks to me, honestly, as in the process of solving some problems revamping the entire

1904
02:53:00,470 --> 02:53:05,830
policy, and I think some of the council members are having trouble with some of the new policy,

1905
02:53:05,990 --> 02:53:11,430
new policies, or we'd like to have some discussion about that, I think, a little more philosophical

1906
02:53:11,430 --> 02:53:12,530
about the direction.

1907
02:53:13,090 --> 02:53:18,270
But it doesn't mean that some of these aren't logical and needed to be in place to be more

1908
02:53:18,270 --> 02:53:23,930
practical for our enforcement. So that's why we're having a bit of a dilemma about this.

1909
02:53:24,570 --> 02:53:32,090
Councilmember? Well, along the practical piece, like it's in the original version of the

1910
02:53:32,090 --> 02:53:39,010
ordinance, it's really unclear who they're supposed to notify. And so that's a piece that

1911
02:53:39,010 --> 02:53:44,030
needs to be clarified because it just said in the original which didn't get struck and I'm

1912
02:53:44,030 --> 02:53:44,590
Not quite sure why.

1913
02:53:44,950 --> 02:53:52,370
They must attempt to notify all affected persons by reasonable means, is that everyone

1914
02:53:52,370 --> 02:54:00,270
in Santa Paula, I mean, so the old ordinance language wasn't clear either.

1915
02:54:01,650 --> 02:54:08,090
And so I think, because then you have a later note that I think defines what that was supposed

1916
02:54:08,090 --> 02:54:18,250
to be all adjacent property lines must be contacted but both of those things are still in there

1917
02:54:18,970 --> 02:54:26,190
and so I think maybe both of them don't need to still be there would be something to look at

1918
02:54:27,030 --> 02:54:30,370
but I mean just in terms of some of the practical things it should be clear

1919
02:54:31,050 --> 02:54:39,370
from the ordinance? Who exactly are they supposed to notify? Is it just the lot lines? Is it

1920
02:54:40,550 --> 02:54:46,230
anyone who might be impacted? Is it, you know, within a radius?

1921
02:54:49,390 --> 02:54:55,350
And it is, Council Member Crossway, it is the lot lines so striking that other stuff would provide more clarity.

1922
02:54:55,350 --> 02:54:57,350
So we could do that.

1923
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:02,560
Let me go to exemption G George,

1924
02:55:06,060 --> 02:55:32,540
entertainment provided by nonprofit organizations, which are exempt from the internal revenue code section 501c3. Is that the only one we're going to accept as being exempt? Because there's a lot of other organizations, church, fraternal chambers, a different 501c status. Are we limited to by law to 501c3? Or is that what we wrote in? That's what we wrote. But that could be expanded religious organizations. A lot of other 501c organizations after that.

1925
02:55:32,540 --> 02:55:34,260
That could benefit from being exempt.

1926
02:55:34,880 --> 02:55:39,260
And there are nonprofits that aren't 501C3, that might be, have another designation.

1927
02:55:39,760 --> 02:55:39,860
Yeah.

1928
02:55:45,360 --> 02:55:53,960
So, if I could ask how we can move forward from here, with at least speaking, a couple of the changes that we want to clarification,

1929
02:55:54,440 --> 02:56:04,020
for example, notification around your property by the line of the property, the number of performers that are allowed.

1930
02:56:04,020 --> 02:56:14,460
about the, trying to think what else that should be, should move forward just for the benefit

1931
02:56:14,460 --> 02:56:18,600
of the businesses and the people who want to to be there, and then we can have another

1932
02:56:18,600 --> 02:56:25,040
discussion about should it be 11, should it be midnight, should it be Bourbon Street in

1933
02:56:25,040 --> 02:56:31,060
New Orleans, where everyone's drinking and partying all night, but you have people on horses,

1934
02:56:34,580 --> 02:56:34,580
law

1935
02:56:34,580 --> 02:56:37,140
want to have about that, and that's the extreme.

1936
02:56:37,880 --> 02:56:42,240
The other is concerned for the people who are still residents downtown, because we do

1937
02:56:42,240 --> 02:56:46,060
have some residents that just may just go crazy if there's just too much noise all the

1938
02:56:46,060 --> 02:56:46,260
time.

1939
02:56:46,860 --> 02:56:51,220
And I understand that there's a sensitivity for that too, because in an area that's changing

1940
02:56:51,220 --> 02:57:01,420
which is a mix of residential and business, we don't want to hurt residents that have lived

1941
02:57:01,420 --> 02:57:06,460
there for many, many years, even sometimes generations, and yet you don't want to inhibit

1942
02:57:06,460 --> 02:57:10,560
new businesses and the thriving, exciting things that are happening in our downtown.

1943
02:57:11,020 --> 02:57:17,760
So it is a longer conversation to have, I think, about those hours more than anything.

1944
02:57:18,080 --> 02:57:21,480
So I don't know how we can split this.

1945
02:57:22,000 --> 02:57:30,200
Mayor, one thing you did say that I think is important, again, my goal in this is to serve

1946
02:57:30,200 --> 02:57:34,900
the community, you know, both the businesses and the community in general.

1947
02:57:35,220 --> 02:57:39,440
And the question could also be brought up based on hours.

1948
02:57:39,620 --> 02:57:45,400
Do we have police enforcement and availability depending on those hours?

1949
02:57:45,780 --> 02:57:47,960
And that may be something else to consider too.

1950
02:57:48,360 --> 02:57:53,020
And then again, we serve a community and those are modifications that would need to be made

1951
02:57:53,020 --> 02:57:56,940
if that's the decision, but, but your question, how do we do that?

1952
02:57:56,940 --> 02:58:04,680
Yeah, so it's just a consulting law enforcement as well as to the effect on some of these changes as well Councilmember Crossway.

1953
02:58:04,860 --> 02:58:09,880
So the question I have is for my colleagues is other than the hours of operation.

1954
02:58:10,560 --> 02:58:18,060
Is there any other part of the changes in the red line version that we have in our packet that someone has an issue with?

1955
02:58:18,760 --> 02:58:24,760
Because I do think that there's a larger conversation to be had about the hours that indoor outdoor.

1956
02:58:24,760 --> 02:58:30,640
I mean, I know that prior to 2020, there was at least one business that regularly had live music until

1957
02:58:31,320 --> 02:58:36,380
after midnight and folks went and danced and enjoyed and so

1958
02:58:39,820 --> 02:58:48,060
I'm not sure if I'm ready to say today that nothing indoor or outdoor should happen after 10 pm.

1959
02:58:49,160 --> 02:58:54,060
I mean, it even says that if I'm reading this right that if you were going to do karaoke

1960
02:58:54,760 --> 02:58:56,620
you would also have to end by 10 p.m.

1961
02:59:00,380 --> 02:59:05,880
I think some of those are part of a bigger conversation,

1962
02:59:08,700 --> 02:59:10,340
but what about the other pieces?

1963
02:59:12,450 --> 02:59:13,390
Councilmember Crosswell,

1964
02:59:13,470 --> 02:59:15,230
I'd just be interested in exploring more about

1965
02:59:15,230 --> 02:59:17,350
the exemptions on G for nonprofits.

1966
02:59:20,970 --> 02:59:24,450
Item H, dining entertainment is limited to ground level

1967
02:59:24,450 --> 02:59:26,010
in approved paddocks areas.

1968
02:59:26,010 --> 02:59:31,930
I think we need more guidance on the language that's being used here, and that's definition.

1969
02:59:33,330 --> 02:59:37,050
And what if we have music on a second floor?

1970
02:59:40,330 --> 02:59:42,570
That's the intent not to have music on the second floor.

1971
02:59:43,930 --> 02:59:45,150
Then we should spell that out.

1972
02:59:51,340 --> 02:59:54,940
Subsequent floors above ground floor patio.

1973
02:59:54,940 --> 02:59:55,940
What

1974
02:59:59,100 --> 02:59:59,960
was the...

1975
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:05,840
The thought process. Just sound projection.

1976
03:00:08,560 --> 03:00:29,560
Seeing that another ordinance is based on sound projection. And my experience adventure with the rest of example, watermark where they had music on the roof. And you could hear the words from half a mile away. Even within the sound requirements.

1977
03:00:29,560 --> 03:00:37,810
because it's just, and we're in a valley on main floor, the buildings attenuate the sound.

1978
03:00:40,910 --> 03:00:47,790
Mayor. Councilmember Crossway indicated an earlier version talked about contacting neighbors, but it didn't really give parameters.

1979
03:00:48,430 --> 03:00:55,790
This one does say all adjacent neighbors adjacent property lines. That just mean the next door neighbor and that's it.

1980
03:00:56,170 --> 03:00:59,390
Because there are people that may be affected that are two doors away.

1981
03:00:59,390 --> 03:01:09,110
For example, there's a hotel, there's residential neighborhood on North 11th Street with a bunch of, you know, people go to work early in the morning and you're going to have loud music like half block away.

1982
03:01:09,570 --> 03:01:16,110
So maybe that should be expanded to so many feet instead of adjacent, adjacent property lines.

1983
03:01:21,740 --> 03:01:30,020
So if the sound goes higher than the decibel level allowed, that's where you stop at not how far away you are.

1984
03:01:30,020 --> 03:01:36,760
Yeah, that's what I was thinking is it depends on what your decibels are right because if your decibels are within a certain amount then

1985
03:01:37,360 --> 03:01:38,580
you shouldn't be

1986
03:01:40,080 --> 03:01:41,240
negatively impacting

1987
03:01:42,520 --> 03:01:44,560
Something a block and a half away

1988
03:01:44,560 --> 03:01:48,020
right the the experience that I've had in this

1989
03:01:48,580 --> 03:01:54,540
Based on the ordinance. It's at the property line. That's why it's those adjacent property owners

1990
03:01:55,170 --> 03:01:57,420
And I'm sure you all can relate to this

1991
03:01:57,420 --> 03:02:00,620
Somebody gets a dog that they didn't have before.

1992
03:02:01,240 --> 03:02:05,680
It could be well below what requirements are as far as the decibels.

1993
03:02:06,040 --> 03:02:08,820
But that change in noise can be the most annoying thing ever.

1994
03:02:09,640 --> 03:02:11,880
You know, somebody's working in their shed.

1995
03:02:12,260 --> 03:02:16,960
It's under the decibel levels, but it's a noise that's new and it becomes a complaint.

1996
03:02:17,480 --> 03:02:27,320
So it's trying to put some brackets around that understanding that our noise ordinance is the buffer in what those requirements are.

1997
03:02:28,140 --> 03:02:29,820
as opposed to a subjective.

1998
03:02:30,520 --> 03:02:31,860
City Attorney Castillo.

1999
03:02:32,220 --> 03:02:33,160
Yes. Thank you Madam Mayor.

2000
03:02:33,740 --> 03:02:41,940
Earlier, Vice Mayor Chavez asked the date that the noise ordinance was adopted and it was in 2004.

2001
03:02:43,820 --> 03:02:52,040
And to keep something to keep in mind tonight, what isn't before council is altering the noise limitations.

2002
03:02:52,040 --> 03:03:01,440
questions. Our noise ordinance isn't on the agenda tonight. So doing nothing doesn't affect those restrictions.

2003
03:03:05,740 --> 03:03:11,200
One thing to add to that when I kind of confirmed this and looked at the ordinance and our noise ordinance,

2004
03:03:11,200 --> 03:03:16,840
it was very consistent across the country as far as residential versus commercial,

2005
03:03:17,360 --> 03:03:22,320
you know, very few exceptions to that. You know, Manhattan's probably one of the few exceptions.

2006
03:03:28,600 --> 03:03:38,260
So to clarify, we can make changes or no changes to the noise ordinance.

2007
03:03:38,680 --> 03:03:42,060
Not to the noise ordinance, but just to the ordinance before us.

2008
03:03:42,080 --> 03:03:42,380
Correct.

2009
03:03:42,540 --> 03:03:45,280
You can make changes to this permit ordinance.

2010
03:03:49,580 --> 03:03:51,520
And you said this is a living document.

2011
03:03:51,720 --> 03:03:53,420
You can bring it back six months later.

2012
03:03:53,820 --> 03:03:56,180
We can make adjustments to it as we wish.

2013
03:03:56,180 --> 03:04:06,190
Can we live with not having time limits on this and just using the sound restrictions?

2014
03:04:07,190 --> 03:04:13,950
I know we have limits as far as filming because of noise. Is that because of a filming ordinance?

2015
03:04:14,310 --> 03:04:18,910
No, it's actually more because of a curfew ordinance. We haven't even gotten into that.

2016
03:04:18,910 --> 03:04:19,530
Okay.

2017
03:04:21,410 --> 03:04:23,430
What we would need to do is just-

2018
03:04:23,430 --> 03:04:23,850
No worms.

2019
03:04:24,410 --> 03:04:28,330
Mayor and Council, look through our existing ordinance and make sure there's no restrictions

2020
03:04:28,330 --> 03:04:29,490
based on timing.

2021
03:04:29,950 --> 03:04:37,690
And then the- I mean, this is a suggestion or recommendation would be to have the permit,

2022
03:04:38,670 --> 03:04:44,210
the license request to find those hours and that'd be subject to staff approval.

2023
03:04:44,510 --> 03:04:45,290
Approval, okay.

2024
03:04:45,970 --> 03:04:47,450
That would be one way to approach it.

2025
03:04:49,340 --> 03:04:59,900
Then would we eliminate the time limit portion of this and have it subject to approval by staff based on staff's understanding of the sentiment that is coming.

2026
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:01,820
To you from council?

2027
03:05:04,410 --> 03:05:05,090
Or is that?

2028
03:05:07,450 --> 03:05:32,190
We're putting you in a very sticky situation. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. I'm at the judgment call on something that really is our responsibility. I would don't want to put that on you. But there's two pieces of that. One is, what do we have in our existing ordinance that regulates that? And then we also have the noise ordinance, which if they are in violation of our municipal code based on those hours of operation,

2029
03:05:32,190 --> 03:05:36,610
or they have issues that are police calls or anything like that, they're going to lose the license.

2030
03:05:37,930 --> 03:05:43,330
Again, that becomes an enforcement challenge, but we don't have that many businesses that are doing this right now.

2031
03:05:47,700 --> 03:05:48,560
Council member, cross-fied?

2032
03:05:49,300 --> 03:05:53,200
Well, I have a question, because there weren't hours in here previously.

2033
03:05:53,640 --> 03:05:53,800
Correct.

2034
03:05:55,480 --> 03:06:05,040
So, I guess what I'm trying to figure out is, were there hours somewhere outside this that regulate that or is that what you're wondering about if there's hours somewhere else?

2035
03:06:05,040 --> 03:06:11,020
because I think that would be one concern, not having this be part of the entire municipal

2036
03:06:11,020 --> 03:06:17,220
code update at this moment, not knowing if this would then put that in conflict with

2037
03:06:17,220 --> 03:06:22,140
something else. So I guess what I'm wondering is,

2038
03:06:25,750 --> 03:06:28,750
is there another way, city attorney, to

2039
03:06:28,750 --> 03:06:34,970
address the hours that wouldn't permanently bake them into the ordinance, but that also

2040
03:06:34,970 --> 03:06:41,530
So wouldn't leave it completely subjective, right?

2041
03:06:41,750 --> 03:06:47,650
Like could you say subject to a resolution that sets the hours or something where that

2042
03:06:47,650 --> 03:06:54,990
could be an ongoing conversation, community outreach, but that the ordinance piece, I'm

2043
03:06:54,990 --> 03:07:00,270
just trying to figure out if there's a way to move through this that still gives us some

2044
03:07:00,270 --> 03:07:04,770
an opportunity to think on the hour's piece.

2045
03:07:05,870 --> 03:07:07,970
Yeah, so there's a tension here.

2046
03:07:08,090 --> 03:07:12,650
You don't want to give too much discretion to a public official

2047
03:07:13,110 --> 03:07:15,670
and have an ordinance give all that discretion

2048
03:07:15,670 --> 03:07:18,330
because then you risk an equal application.

2049
03:07:18,830 --> 03:07:19,870
Right, right.

2050
03:07:20,670 --> 03:07:25,730
And then to introduce some sort of resolution process

2051
03:07:25,730 --> 03:07:29,450
or formal process that creates even more

2052
03:07:29,450 --> 03:07:37,570
cost and burden to applicants and staff and decision-making bodies so it's

2053
03:07:37,570 --> 03:07:43,650
something to think about. So if I search my memory banks correctly we used to

2054
03:07:43,650 --> 03:07:47,430
got a loud music calls people would always come up and say well it's not 10

2055
03:07:47,430 --> 03:07:51,630
o'clock but we would tell them it doesn't matter the law is or at least our rule

2056
03:07:51,630 --> 03:07:57,570
ordinances that anytime you disturb someone else would with a loud and

2057
03:07:57,570 --> 03:08:14,890
unreasonable noise at any time, and that's really what we utilize, and that might exist somewhere in our ordinances that you can disturb your neighbors, and that's because we would go to a lot of music calls in residential neighborhoods, and they would think it would be 10 o'clock, but it really if we remember the ordinance, it's whenever you it disturbs your neighbors at any time.

2058
03:08:14,890 --> 03:08:20,950
I believe it's 102 unruly gatherings, I think it's defined in there.

2059
03:08:21,790 --> 03:08:26,630
And it also relates to police calls, number of police calls to a specific location.

2060
03:08:26,970 --> 03:08:28,850
So, after a secondary call, then it becomes?

2061
03:08:30,170 --> 03:08:36,190
So, maybe that's what we relied upon, and this just is pertinent to the downtown noise or music ordinance.

2062
03:08:44,840 --> 03:08:50,660
Not sure how to move forward with this, because I'd like to see most of this passed.

2063
03:08:51,540 --> 03:08:57,160
just for the benefit of the businesses, and for clarification for everybody.

2064
03:08:57,480 --> 03:08:59,560
But we're just struggling with the hours on this.

2065
03:09:01,640 --> 03:09:03,880
Do you want to look like you wanted to say something?

2066
03:09:03,980 --> 03:09:08,780
I feel like we spend a lot of time in this and that's a indication that I think we should table the item.

2067
03:09:09,180 --> 03:09:13,140
Provide direction of staff, have staff come back with what they've heard tonight.

2068
03:09:15,500 --> 03:09:23,400
My only concern is any problem that it creates for any businesses that would want to have more performers than three.

2069
03:09:24,600 --> 03:09:29,280
I mean, it hasn't been enforced as it, how have we been enforcing this?

2070
03:09:29,380 --> 03:09:31,720
It's kind of like the cruising ordinance that I brought before, right?

2071
03:09:32,240 --> 03:09:35,060
Oh, it's not enforced, so let's not bring it up until we have something come up.

2072
03:09:35,120 --> 03:09:38,760
So I think we need to move on on this issue, Mayor Cornie-Hole.

2073
03:09:38,760 --> 03:09:56,020
So, one other thing to keep in mind, we don't have another council meeting till August 7th, so there's an opportunity to come with something more fully baked in that process, especially with the input that you've raised on this, yeah.

2074
03:09:56,500 --> 03:09:57,780
And the public input too.

2075
03:09:58,320 --> 03:09:59,700
Because there's some good in here too.

2076
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:29,240
So, we're struggling with some of the issues here. So, could we ask that you bring it back to us, either to an August meeting, the first or the second, whenever you could have it ready? And with the input that you have from here, just kind of. Yes. And making sure that on the application, it also clarifies whatever you're suggesting that neighbor is if it's a lot of line. Because that was on the application itself, that was a little bit.

2077
03:10:29,240 --> 03:10:30,280
Yeah, unclear

2078
03:10:31,220 --> 03:10:36,840
I've got a question for those that have pending applications. Are they in limbo? They do nothing they move forward

2079
03:10:37,580 --> 03:10:40,000
What would be the recommendation from our attorney?

2080
03:10:42,640 --> 03:10:49,340
Well, we have this ordinance already in place it exists so it needs to submit the process according to our cup

2081
03:10:49,340 --> 03:10:53,500
Right, but then as vice mayor Chava said, you know, what if they want five members in the band?

2082
03:10:53,680 --> 03:10:56,680
I know you can only have four. Okay, who doesn't get paid tonight, right?

2083
03:10:56,680 --> 03:11:04,760
Well, it's about enforcement at the end of the day and we've been looking over enforcement on many, many issues including fireworks.

2084
03:11:05,500 --> 03:11:12,100
So let's just come back in August on the issue and then also take it a peabit.

2085
03:11:13,300 --> 03:11:20,020
And I think staff has heard our concurrence that four members were not enforcing that part of the ordinance.

2086
03:11:21,960 --> 03:11:30,020
Okay, all right. Are you all right with that? Everyone will just move forward with this and ask that you bring it back to us. We understand we appreciate the work.

2087
03:11:30,860 --> 03:11:37,800
Also in when you need to correct some of it, you want to go ahead and revise everything that needs to be done at that point.

2088
03:11:38,100 --> 03:11:45,520
But I think there just needs to be some some more work a bit more work done on that is particularly with our current concern for the limitations of the hours.

2089
03:11:46,860 --> 03:11:51,540
And if you could bring that back to us in August, we'd appreciate that, so thank you.

2090
03:11:51,940 --> 03:11:57,640
All right, and just to add to that comment, and work for us because we have to go and

2091
03:11:57,640 --> 03:12:00,720
talk to the community members and let them know what this means, right?

2092
03:12:01,220 --> 03:12:04,940
It'll give us a little bit of time for us to do our work that we have to do with our constituent.

2093
03:12:05,060 --> 03:12:10,800
If we've got, we'd like to talk to constituents and get feedback to you as well through the city manager.

2094
03:12:11,040 --> 03:12:12,840
And we can get that to you as well, so yes.

2095
03:12:12,840 --> 03:12:23,020
May I suggest that you move for staff to bring back this item on not necessarily August of the future?

2096
03:12:23,100 --> 03:12:23,520
When ready?

2097
03:12:23,700 --> 03:12:24,100
When ready?

2098
03:12:24,300 --> 03:12:26,120
Okay. Is there a motion to that effect?

2099
03:12:26,460 --> 03:12:32,860
I move that this item be moved to a future meeting sometime after our break in July.

2100
03:12:33,700 --> 03:12:33,780
Okay.

2101
03:12:34,400 --> 03:12:35,120
Any other discussion?

2102
03:12:35,620 --> 03:12:36,220
Beaton it to death.

2103
03:12:36,560 --> 03:12:37,200
All those in favor?

2104
03:12:37,700 --> 03:12:38,100
Aye.

2105
03:12:38,640 --> 03:12:39,140
Opposed?

2106
03:12:39,280 --> 03:12:39,360
No.

2107
03:12:39,760 --> 03:12:40,080
Motion carries.

2108
03:12:40,080 --> 03:12:44,060
Thank you, Mr. Mason. We appreciate that. Thank you.

2109
03:12:44,440 --> 03:12:44,600
Yes.

2110
03:12:45,160 --> 03:12:49,720
So in this case, do I need a temporary CUP at this point?

2111
03:12:51,340 --> 03:12:53,600
I would direct that question to enforcement.

2112
03:12:53,980 --> 03:12:58,460
Work with the department, and they understand how we feel about this too.

2113
03:12:58,760 --> 03:12:59,480
So thank you.

2114
03:13:02,560 --> 03:13:05,400
All right. Let's move on everyone. Thank you.

2115
03:13:06,400 --> 03:13:10,720
Item 11B seems like whenever we're making appointments to commissions and committees

2116
03:13:10,720 --> 03:13:12,420
So we make them wait a really long time.

2117
03:13:13,180 --> 03:13:13,740
Yes.

2118
03:13:14,140 --> 03:13:20,920
So in the interest of efficiency, does anyone have the three returning applicants?

2119
03:13:22,460 --> 03:13:25,260
Fireworks, speaking of the three returning applicants.

2120
03:13:25,260 --> 03:13:29,760
Does anyone mind if I make those three as one motion since they're just returning and have no?

2121
03:13:31,260 --> 03:13:32,040
Competition moved.

2122
03:13:33,520 --> 03:13:35,180
I guess I'm such a human.

2123
03:13:37,160 --> 03:13:40,480
And do you want to state who those are?

2124
03:13:40,720 --> 03:13:44,320
So we would be, or I guess you made the motion, so.

2125
03:13:44,640 --> 03:13:55,120
So motion to adopt, to the appointments of senior advisory committee, Veronica Hedon?

2126
03:13:55,940 --> 03:13:56,860
No, no, no, no.

2127
03:13:57,260 --> 03:13:57,740
Those are not.

2128
03:13:57,820 --> 03:13:58,220
Those are not.

2129
03:13:58,740 --> 03:14:02,980
Those we have to talk about, I was like about the last three, the Susan Williffard for the

2130
03:14:02,980 --> 03:14:10,700
Santa Paul Housing Authority, Jason Herbert to design assistance, and Karen Harris and

2131
03:14:10,700 --> 03:14:15,140
to the mobile home rent review, because they were already in that position and

2132
03:14:15,140 --> 03:14:16,500
they were the only person to reapply.

2133
03:14:16,800 --> 03:14:19,360
I withdraw my motion, can you pick it on?

2134
03:14:19,600 --> 03:14:20,760
So I move those three.

2135
03:14:21,000 --> 03:14:22,020
Did somebody second that?

2136
03:14:22,500 --> 03:14:24,660
She moved, I have moved,

2137
03:14:28,080 --> 03:14:29,300
and is there a second on that?

2138
03:14:30,940 --> 03:14:31,780
I'll second that.

2139
03:14:31,840 --> 03:14:34,580
Councilmember Juarez seconds, all those in favor?

2140
03:14:35,300 --> 03:14:35,440
Aye.

2141
03:14:36,140 --> 03:14:36,620
Opposed?

2142
03:14:36,860 --> 03:14:41,280
Motion carries, so we have three reappointments, now we'll move on to the new appointments.

2143
03:14:47,420 --> 03:14:53,220
I believe we have two applicants for three positions on the senior advisory committee.

2144
03:14:54,020 --> 03:14:59,980
Do we have a motion on the side if we're, that was why I wanted to come back to that, because we have to decide if we're doing the two that we-

2145
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:07,420
We have to the two full terms, or if either of them get the one partial. So I'd like to make a motion to give Ron

2146
03:15:07,420 --> 03:15:11,580
Merson the full term to the senior advisory committee.

2147
03:15:13,740 --> 03:15:25,820
Second. Second. Okay. Any other discussion on that? All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Congratulations, Mr.

2148
03:15:25,820 --> 03:15:26,920
person has waited patiently.

2149
03:15:28,200 --> 03:15:35,020
Motion, Veronica, heat on stone to the partial term on the senior advisory committee.

2150
03:15:35,880 --> 03:15:36,640
Second.

2151
03:15:37,280 --> 03:15:38,160
I'll second it.

2152
03:15:39,120 --> 03:15:40,520
Any other discussion?

2153
03:15:41,720 --> 03:15:42,520
All those in favor?

2154
03:15:43,100 --> 03:15:43,280
Aye.

2155
03:15:44,060 --> 03:15:44,640
Opposed?

2156
03:15:45,440 --> 03:15:45,700
All right.

2157
03:15:46,000 --> 03:15:47,000
Second, congratulations.

2158
03:15:48,240 --> 03:15:52,800
And then we have two applicants for parks and recreation and one opening.

2159
03:15:52,800 --> 03:15:55,420
We have two candidates that were interviewed.

2160
03:15:56,480 --> 03:16:02,640
I know we had, we always have excellent people that apply for these commissions and it's

2161
03:16:02,640 --> 03:16:08,700
very unfortunate when we have more applicants that we have positions and in this particular

2162
03:16:08,700 --> 03:16:13,900
one for the Parks and Recreation Commission we have two qualified applicants and a Varella

2163
03:16:13,900 --> 03:16:19,620
and Monique Vargas and unfortunately we only have one spot so I prepared to make a motion

2164
03:16:19,620 --> 03:16:24,360
or make a motion towards recommending one, unless there's just anybody else wants to say anything before?

2165
03:16:24,720 --> 03:16:26,160
Go right ahead and we'll go from there.

2166
03:16:28,640 --> 03:16:32,520
He has someone to nominate. Go ahead and make a nomination we can discuss.

2167
03:16:32,860 --> 03:16:39,140
I would like to nominate to my colleagues Anna Verella for the position on the Parks and Recreation Commission.

2168
03:16:39,520 --> 03:16:43,160
Second. Any other discussion on that?

2169
03:16:43,560 --> 03:16:48,740
I just want to say again I reiterate the fact that we have two amazing candidates and what's interesting is that

2170
03:16:48,740 --> 03:16:53,720
sometimes you don't get it on the first round and as one of those people she did

2171
03:16:53,720 --> 03:16:59,440
not make it the first round and then she came second time so I encourage the

2172
03:16:59,440 --> 03:17:03,220
other canary will need to come back and she said she was gonna come back so she

2173
03:17:03,220 --> 03:17:06,360
will be sitting on one of our commissions very soon especially because she's

2174
03:17:06,360 --> 03:17:10,220
gone through the leadership academy and she's just an amazing person and a

2175
03:17:10,220 --> 03:17:15,040
candidate that has a big heart. It's extraordinary the people that we have

2176
03:17:15,040 --> 03:17:19,920
willing to serve on these boards, we've just had some fabulous people by.

2177
03:17:20,520 --> 03:17:24,820
So with that motion then, for Ana Varella, all those in favor?

2178
03:17:25,460 --> 03:17:25,580
Aye.

2179
03:17:26,100 --> 03:17:26,660
Opposed?

2180
03:17:27,060 --> 03:17:27,360
Okay.

2181
03:17:27,360 --> 03:17:28,560
Motion carries unanimously.

2182
03:17:29,180 --> 03:17:35,880
Congratulations to Ms. Varella, and we hope to see Monique Vargas very soon again applying to another commission appointment.

2183
03:17:36,620 --> 03:17:37,340
Commissioner Board.

2184
03:17:38,040 --> 03:17:38,280
Okay.

2185
03:17:38,840 --> 03:17:41,700
I think if we've got all of those done, is that correct, Madam Clerk?

2186
03:17:41,700 --> 03:17:52,040
Okay, very well, we'll move on to item 11c, application to the California Department of Housing and Community Development, HCD, seeking a pro-housing designation by the state.

2187
03:17:52,960 --> 03:18:01,340
Okay, we have a presentation by Management Analyst, Cesar Hernandez, bringing it back to us.

2188
03:18:01,340 --> 03:18:01,960
Yes.

2189
03:18:05,570 --> 03:18:07,770
Get any mayor, council?

2190
03:18:09,310 --> 03:18:14,310
June 5th, 2024, staff presented a consent item requesting that council

2191
03:18:14,310 --> 03:18:19,390
consider a proposing designation program app to the California Department of Housing

2192
03:18:19,810 --> 03:18:22,390
and Committer Development after discussing the item.

2193
03:18:23,110 --> 03:18:28,790
City council determined that the item be continued to address council's questions and provide

2194
03:18:28,790 --> 03:18:31,070
clarification of the application process.

2195
03:18:32,030 --> 03:18:38,490
So on the application staff did its best to explain the application scoring process.

2196
03:18:40,620 --> 03:18:47,370
The timeline and then answer questions from the June 5th, 2024 CC meeting.

2197
03:18:48,880 --> 03:18:53,510
So if there's any questions, staff will be happy to answer at this point.

2198
03:18:55,010 --> 03:18:57,190
Any additional questions we've had time?

2199
03:18:57,270 --> 03:18:58,350
Yes, Councilmember Crossway.

2200
03:18:58,470 --> 03:19:00,310
We do have one public comment, yes.

2201
03:19:00,310 --> 03:19:15,350
So any clarification questions for you if not, then we'll go to the public comment and then discussion that okay are you're all okay if we move on to public comment we have one I'd like to go ahead and hear that first in case I don't

2202
03:19:15,350 --> 03:19:22,210
know if they'll want to stay through the item or not, but since it's almost it's 10 o'clock and I know I know I would like to at least go ahead and hear the public comment.

2203
03:19:22,210 --> 03:19:24,670
Let's do that for Jorge de Leon, please.

2204
03:19:25,530 --> 03:19:26,930
Welcome, and thanks for your patience.

2205
03:19:26,930 --> 03:19:28,410
We're going to close the happy hour.

2206
03:19:28,810 --> 03:19:29,350
Hey, I know.

2207
03:19:30,570 --> 03:19:31,510
We'd like you to come in.

2208
03:19:31,510 --> 03:19:31,990
Last call.

2209
03:19:32,250 --> 03:19:33,590
Too late for last call.

2210
03:19:34,170 --> 03:19:36,590
And I just want to say that it's kind of sad that we're who can't.

2211
03:19:36,870 --> 03:19:38,690
So my name is Jorge de Leon.

2212
03:19:38,750 --> 03:19:41,230
I'm here on behalf of the Ventura County Coastal Association

2213
03:19:41,230 --> 03:19:44,810
of Realtors, we're a membership of over 2,000

2214
03:19:44,810 --> 03:19:45,730
real estate practitioners.

2215
03:19:47,470 --> 03:19:50,970
And as you've heard before, Santa Paula was my home

2216
03:19:50,970 --> 03:19:52,630
when I was a child and a teenager.

2217
03:19:54,150 --> 03:19:57,130
So we are here to commend you and basically come

2218
03:19:57,130 --> 03:19:59,230
with a very positive and very resound.

2219
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:29,340
In pro support of this resolution or this ordinance, we understand that there's a lot of construction going on, and I think it's great that Santa Paula is getting the much needed housing, the report that Mr. James Mason presented with a lot of the housing that's coming. I think it's phenomenal because the city of Santa Paula needs it. We get to see multiple applicants for the limited time amount of housing that's available in Santa Paula.

2220
03:20:29,340 --> 03:20:43,280
So speaking specifically to the resolution before you this evening, specifically to assembly bill 101, it provides those incentives in the form of additional points and other preferences in the scoring of the competitive process, right?

2221
03:20:44,900 --> 03:20:51,080
Under this legislation, which is pro housing, there are several points I would like to point out to you.

2222
03:20:51,180 --> 03:20:54,980
It's reducing the parking requirements for sites that are zoned for residential development.

2223
03:20:54,980 --> 03:21:00,240
The adoption of zoning, allowing for use of right for residential and mixed use development.

2224
03:21:01,560 --> 03:21:07,640
Zoning more sites for residential development or zoning at higher densities that are required

2225
03:21:07,640 --> 03:21:13,020
to accommodate the minimum existing regional housing need allocation for the current housing

2226
03:21:13,020 --> 03:21:13,800
element cycle.

2227
03:21:14,520 --> 03:21:20,080
Obviously, the adoption of accessory dwelling unit ordinances and other mechanisms to reduce

2228
03:21:20,080 --> 03:21:24,080
the barriers for property owners to create accessory dwelling units.

2229
03:21:24,660 --> 03:21:31,240
The reduction of the time frames for the processing times, the creation of the objective development

2230
03:21:31,240 --> 03:21:34,280
standards, and the reduction of development impact fees.

2231
03:21:35,080 --> 03:21:41,440
I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge the fact that it's been wonderful to work with

2232
03:21:41,440 --> 03:21:49,480
the department, specifically Mr. James Mason and Cesar, with regards to this, and we feel

2233
03:21:49,480 --> 03:21:56,900
We hope that these are changes that are common sense and very pragmatic, that reduce those barriers to additional housing and we support them all.

2234
03:21:57,980 --> 03:22:05,020
We hope to see the continue to see the city to take that all of the above approach when it comes to this.

2235
03:22:06,660 --> 03:22:13,140
And for you to continue to be the talk of the town in a positive note as to creating housing opportunities for the county.

2236
03:22:13,140 --> 03:22:24,600
Okay. So that's what we're here for. Again, we're all in and we continue to commend you for taking this and considering this as a pro housing city.

2237
03:22:25,160 --> 03:22:25,460
Thank you.

2238
03:22:25,980 --> 03:22:27,240
Thank you for your comments.

2239
03:22:29,180 --> 03:22:31,500
Council discussion or questions for staff?

2240
03:22:32,200 --> 03:22:36,440
I just had a question I had of Mr. Singer today and he had me bring it up tonight maybe.

2241
03:22:37,240 --> 03:22:42,240
Excuse me, excuse me, the little, excuse me, my bringin' up, and that's, what did they use for the rating points?

2242
03:22:42,600 --> 03:22:45,120
One through three? I never saw a rating key.

2243
03:22:48,140 --> 03:22:49,260
You said radiant points.

2244
03:22:49,760 --> 03:22:51,840
Yeah, you know, listed rating one.

2245
03:22:52,000 --> 03:22:52,960
Oh, rating point, I'm sorry.

2246
03:22:53,140 --> 03:22:58,260
I didn't see how you came to that, you know, what, what each one, where, you got that figure from.

2247
03:22:59,520 --> 03:23:01,840
Oh, the ratings, how they came up with the rating system?

2248
03:23:02,380 --> 03:23:02,960
Yeah, yeah.

2249
03:23:02,960 --> 03:23:10,120
So, I very simply, if you look on the application that's attached on page 225,

2250
03:23:12,430 --> 03:23:13,510
if you look on the top,

2251
03:23:18,190 --> 03:23:24,650
there is a government code section that says 655-889.9, okay?

2252
03:23:25,290 --> 03:23:31,290
In that government code section, it allows HCD to come up with the program or the incentives.

2253
03:23:32,230 --> 03:23:37,070
So, say, for example, the program was created for incentives for jurisdictions

2254
03:23:37,070 --> 03:23:42,110
locations that are compliant with the state housing element like law, like the city of Santa

2255
03:23:42,110 --> 03:23:46,870
Paul is when there are six cycles and we enact pro-housing policies.

2256
03:23:47,410 --> 03:23:53,090
These incentives as stated will take the form of additional points or other preference

2257
03:23:53,090 --> 03:23:58,370
instance scoring of applications competing housing infrastructure programs and those are listed

2258
03:23:58,370 --> 03:24:06,490
in the front as I have here at the beginning in the staff report such as favorable zoning

2259
03:24:06,490 --> 03:24:14,630
I think acceleration of housing production, reduction of construction, and financial subsidies that could be enacted like rent, rent assistance.

2260
03:24:15,630 --> 03:24:22,590
The administrators of HCD are responsible for creating the program and they determine the value of the form.

2261
03:24:23,050 --> 03:24:24,430
That's really what it boils down to.

2262
03:24:25,890 --> 03:24:26,750
Okay, thank you.

2263
03:24:31,070 --> 03:24:31,930
Anyone else?

2264
03:24:32,270 --> 03:24:33,490
Yes, Council Member Crosswright.

2265
03:24:33,490 --> 03:24:35,850
So, I just wanted to re-ask.

2266
03:24:37,820 --> 03:24:45,880
It's our understanding that HCD won't see SOAR as an impediment to housing.

2267
03:24:46,940 --> 03:24:47,300
No.

2268
03:24:47,980 --> 03:24:48,840
I believe so.

2269
03:24:49,000 --> 03:24:49,120
Okay.

2270
03:24:49,380 --> 03:24:53,560
It was a little unclear in the response in the packet, so I just wanted to clarify.

2271
03:24:54,820 --> 03:24:55,160
Right.

2272
03:24:55,160 --> 03:24:59,980
Right, and stuff understands where you're getting at, because Sora is...

2273
03:25:00,270 --> 03:25:28,730
Not to discuss or too much in extension, but it more or less, the cities are voting into open space, but it doesn't mean it's restricting any housing within the city limits. So it's, what goes, it's more applicant. The city based application is based on going into the open space areas that are not annexed or not part of the city limits, more or less than anything, but not restricted to a number of housing limits.

2274
03:25:28,730 --> 03:25:34,370
I just wanted to check because I know that when I'm part of conversations regionally there are some entities

2275
03:25:34,370 --> 03:25:39,130
especially at the state that look at Ventura County sideways as if we're just

2276
03:25:40,090 --> 03:25:41,130
trying not to

2277
03:25:41,930 --> 03:25:47,330
Build anything so I just I just wanted to to make sure that staff didn't think that they would

2278
03:25:47,950 --> 03:25:53,630
Look at oh, well you're in Ventura County, so we're just gonna, you know, toss it right now without looking at it

2279
03:25:53,630 --> 03:25:55,170
So I just wanted to check.

2280
03:25:55,450 --> 03:26:07,030
And it's a valid point, you know, we could, we make it a comment from HCD when they review it for 60 days and look at that point as, oh, wait a minute, but we could be ready to respond to them if that's the case.

2281
03:26:07,410 --> 03:26:07,890
Okay, right.

2282
03:26:08,930 --> 03:26:09,310
Great.

2283
03:26:09,830 --> 03:26:10,410
My spare.

2284
03:26:10,910 --> 03:26:11,770
Thank you, Mayor Cornelio.

2285
03:26:12,570 --> 03:26:20,870
As a follow-up question to Councilmember Crossway, in no way disconflicts with our housing element, it basically compliments it.

2286
03:26:21,510 --> 03:26:26,110
Correct? Absolutely. Okay, great. I'm ready to make a motion on that says another question.

2287
03:26:26,750 --> 03:26:30,810
Just one more quick question. Go ahead, please. Thank you, Mayor. You know that they're on page

2288
03:26:33,030 --> 03:26:37,390
248 where it talks about homeless encampments. I'm sure this was written before the Supreme Court made a

2289
03:26:37,390 --> 03:26:42,350
decision on encampments in public. So this is again probably a living document that's going to be

2290
03:26:42,350 --> 03:26:48,650
changed according to. Exactly. So that you're talking about the seven points. Yes. So in light of

2291
03:26:48,650 --> 03:26:56,490
Friday's or a ruling by the Supreme Court, I'm assuming not to speak on behalf of HCD that they probably may modify that.

2292
03:26:56,750 --> 03:26:58,670
Okay, that's what I'm saying.

2293
03:26:58,670 --> 03:27:00,410
Thank you very much, that's fine.

2294
03:27:01,030 --> 03:27:03,110
Okay, go ahead then, please.

2295
03:27:03,550 --> 03:27:14,590
Motion to adopt resolution 7521 authorizing the City Manager's desk need to submit the pre-housing designation program application to the California Department of Housing and Community Development, HCD.

2296
03:27:14,590 --> 03:27:18,150
and if the application is approved by HCD to execute all documents,

2297
03:27:18,290 --> 03:27:23,250
the necessary or appropriate to participate in the pro-housing designation program.

2298
03:27:23,870 --> 03:27:26,690
I'm all second. Okay. Any other discussion?

2299
03:27:27,790 --> 03:27:34,990
Just a clarification. So part of the reason for this is it opens up more opportunities in terms of grants and funding, correct?

2300
03:27:38,460 --> 03:27:41,740
That's correct. All right. Okay. Thank you. All right.

2301
03:27:41,740 --> 03:27:44,300
All right, all those in favor.

2302
03:27:45,160 --> 03:27:45,640
Aye.

2303
03:27:46,320 --> 03:27:46,800
Opposed?

2304
03:27:47,020 --> 03:27:47,860
Motion carries.

2305
03:27:48,540 --> 03:27:52,440
I heard a lovely wave putting housing in terms from some of

2306
03:27:52,440 --> 03:27:56,720
what I was speaking to in the real estate business that this has to do with housing for all.

2307
03:27:57,140 --> 03:27:59,600
And I think this encourages that and I appreciate that.

2308
03:27:59,780 --> 03:28:00,960
Thank you for all your work on this.

2309
03:28:03,160 --> 03:28:06,400
All right, let's move on to item, and thank you all.

2310
03:28:06,680 --> 03:28:10,740
Item 11D, purchase of downtown trash and recycling receptacles.

2311
03:28:10,740 --> 03:28:18,100
and we have Deputy City Manager Jonathan Royce presenting, and fellow Esteban.

2312
03:28:18,620 --> 03:28:21,740
Yes, good evening Mayor, Vice Mayor Council.

2313
03:28:22,540 --> 03:28:27,800
Staff comes before you this evening, along with our management fellow, Mr. Esteban Herrera,

2314
03:28:28,320 --> 03:28:31,400
to talk trash about our downtown trash receptacles.

2315
03:28:32,400 --> 03:28:39,380
So I did want to thank our fellows that have worked on this project, actually for the last year,

2316
03:28:39,380 --> 03:28:45,000
including Mr. Miguel Perez, who isn't here this evening, but kickstarted this project

2317
03:28:45,000 --> 03:28:50,460
off. And then Mr. Herrera, this evening, will bring us across the finish line, hopefully.

2318
03:28:50,920 --> 03:28:55,080
So I will let him take over, and he has a presentation for you.

2319
03:29:00,080 --> 03:29:06,320
Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Council Members. Yes, I'm here today to talk trash about purchasing

2320
03:29:06,320 --> 03:29:13,120
of downtown trash and recycling, receptacles. I come to you this evening with a recommendation

2321
03:29:13,120 --> 03:29:20,040
of one wave form of bidding requirements and consent to purchase a trash, recycling receptacles for an amount not to exceed

2322
03:29:21,160 --> 03:29:30,280
132, 130,713 dollars and 40 cents based on the finding that purchase of receptacles is desirable or necessary

2323
03:29:30,280 --> 03:29:41,260
pursuant to the Santa Paula Municipal Code section 4110 and two authorize City Manager or his designee to execute a purchase agreement with forms

2324
03:29:41,260 --> 03:29:44,660
services using American Rescue Act Plan funds.

2325
03:29:47,160 --> 03:29:51,080
Here are just a couple of photos I've taken going up and down Main Street.

2326
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:29,980
Or in public works at the moment, often you will see that lids completely off the bottom two, mismatched lids and often there are other examples I've seen where the lids are just not there, right? And very easy for someone to get in. Often we see people going through the trash, looking for like aluminum or bottles throwing everything out, finding what they can. And then just leaving, not cleaning up.

2327
03:30:29,980 --> 03:30:40,340
and on the left we see here is in the alleyway there are multiple examples of this there's one a little bit further down and believe looks the same way as we can see.

2328
03:30:40,840 --> 03:30:51,140
I think it's pretty clear that what we're seeing right now is just the state is in poor condition of pretty much all the trash cans across the downtown district.

2329
03:30:54,730 --> 03:31:01,730
And here's a map that was created with the previous fellows kind of my help as well.

2330
03:31:01,730 --> 03:31:09,370
While these are just outlining the current trash cans, as we can see in the top left, the green are just regular trash cans, the blue.

2331
03:31:09,930 --> 03:31:21,130
It's kind of hard to see, they're kind of overlapping, but they're paired with a couple of the trash cans and the five black we see are kind of just unbranded, unlabeled black trash cans.

2332
03:31:21,130 --> 03:31:45,090
And for the most part, we would work with Parks and Rec and Public Works to determine if we were to purchase new trash cans kind of their placement, generally in the same area, if not, maybe new spots, maybe on belief A, and we talked about 11th and 12th Street could use a few more.

2333
03:31:48,540 --> 03:32:08,040
And the research done by other members and a little bit of myself, we looked at what other cities are doing, just to get a sense of what, I guess, modern, quote unquote, like out-to-date trash cans are doing it, and as we can see, if you've gone to Ventura, you see the big belly since Max, these things are crazy.

2334
03:32:08,840 --> 03:32:21,160
They're expensive, they're super high tax, they're the art, maybe not exactly what the city needs but it is an example of what other cities are doing and city of Monterey and Pisman Beach.

2335
03:32:21,300 --> 03:32:33,200
Those are using cans made from the vendors that we actually got proposals for, so they give us a better example of what to look for, what other cities are doing.

2336
03:32:33,200 --> 03:32:40,160
Again, kind of in terms of aesthetics design, something that's been brought up when I am

2337
03:32:40,160 --> 03:32:48,480
talking to different departments is kind of a requisite that they bring up, something

2338
03:32:48,480 --> 03:32:53,720
that we see on both of these are the top, they're covered, kind of providing a little bit

2339
03:32:53,720 --> 03:33:01,720
of cover from the rain in particular, that was a big point brought up and I believe on

2340
03:33:01,720 --> 03:33:19,680
both there's a side opening instead of something that was brought up from city core is that sometimes when the trash, if it's loaded just from the top, pretty hard to pick up, especially if it's full, they can kind of strenuous rather than to side opening,

2341
03:33:19,680 --> 03:33:23,940
make it out, take it out, put a new line or sign it back in.

2342
03:33:28,420 --> 03:33:32,640
Feedback received from Athens, parts and recreation staff, city core, streets of vision,

2343
03:33:33,240 --> 03:33:34,800
property business improvement district.

2344
03:33:35,520 --> 03:33:39,240
One, the need for additional recycling cans to encourage, encourage proper waste,

2345
03:33:39,960 --> 03:33:42,920
recreation, and recycling cabinets among residents and visitors.

2346
03:33:43,480 --> 03:33:44,240
This is the big one.

2347
03:33:45,520 --> 03:33:49,760
If you see the previous map, there's only nine current recycling bins.

2348
03:33:50,780 --> 03:33:57,960
and our aims are to bring that balance to pretty much even where we have an equal

2349
03:33:57,960 --> 03:34:04,020
number of trash receptacles with recycling. Another point was convenience

2350
03:34:04,020 --> 03:34:08,760
that was brought up. I was told when talking to someone from parks and

2351
03:34:08,760 --> 03:34:12,480
recs, sometimes often if someone's walking around with trash on their hand for

2352
03:34:12,480 --> 03:34:15,740
an extended amount of time, like if you have an aluminum can and you don't see a

2353
03:34:18,460 --> 03:34:34,120
So I think it is important to have both, to make it easier for someone to not misuse trash cans to security-locking mechanisms to secure trash inside.

2354
03:34:34,120 --> 03:34:38,960
This is I think one of the bigger ones that I think Jonathan brought up along with other people

2355
03:34:38,960 --> 03:34:45,660
talking to kind of just getting their input on what to look for in a trash can and when I get

2356
03:34:45,660 --> 03:34:50,680
to the three proposals I believe all three of them have a security lock. They're all side-opening.

2357
03:34:50,880 --> 03:34:58,940
They're all pretty secure. It was explained that they're the furthest one of the cans we're looking at.

2358
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:27,460
The idea was it's easy to open, but it's hard to break. I think the idea is whether or not we would like. People are going to try to access these, and if it's harder for them, obviously, that'd be good. It's less to clean up and dealing with broken locks, you know, can add up over time. Number three, lids or rain guards, which could not be removed. This is also another big one. I think probably the biggest. Often we see.

2359
03:35:27,460 --> 03:35:34,960
the trash cans without the lids, downtown, again, people going through them, either it's

2360
03:35:34,960 --> 03:35:42,340
emptying them out or looking for something to recycle and across all the three different

2361
03:35:42,340 --> 03:35:48,160
proposals, we've gotten all have a ring guard slash a cover pretty much that is unable

2362
03:35:48,160 --> 03:35:48,980
to be taken off.

2363
03:35:49,900 --> 03:35:55,920
I think if you look at the, what other cities are doing, that's a pretty common trend

2364
03:35:55,920 --> 03:36:03,820
the theme versus what we have now where some mornings I watch some of the

2365
03:36:03,820 --> 03:36:07,900
out-and-house just take the lid off toss it aside and then it's just there

2366
03:36:07,900 --> 03:36:12,120
like that all day like it's less worried about it and also you know I feel

2367
03:36:12,120 --> 03:36:16,440
Liz gone from a trash can like who's going to pay for that like how are we going

2368
03:36:16,440 --> 03:36:21,620
to get that back and for inclusion of durable graffiti resistant cutting to

2369
03:36:21,620 --> 03:36:27,540
maintained receptacles efficiently, so far in all the proposals, all the color options

2370
03:36:27,540 --> 03:36:32,000
and variants we've seen, they've all been powder coat, which I believe is a little easier

2371
03:36:32,000 --> 03:36:36,440
to clean up rather than what we have now talking to someone from Parks and Rec.

2372
03:36:38,700 --> 03:36:47,520
It seems to be that the way to tackle like graffiti if we were to buy these new ones, if they

2373
03:36:47,520 --> 03:36:50,580
or graffiti, it's overall pretty easier to maintain

2374
03:36:50,580 --> 03:36:52,580
and get the graffiti off rather than having to

2375
03:36:53,160 --> 03:36:55,340
buy a whole load of new paint, paint it over,

2376
03:36:55,460 --> 03:36:57,040
which can cost you know, over time.

2377
03:37:00,350 --> 03:37:04,030
And now we have the three kind of main,

2378
03:37:04,490 --> 03:37:04,930
looking

2379
03:37:08,130 --> 03:37:10,030
for, three prospects that we're looking at.

2380
03:37:10,410 --> 03:37:12,170
These are all the fairly similar models

2381
03:37:13,290 --> 03:37:15,290
across the three different vendors,

2382
03:37:15,630 --> 03:37:17,410
form services, effective salient, do more.

2383
03:37:18,170 --> 03:37:19,630
What these all kind of have in common is that

2384
03:37:19,630 --> 03:37:21,030
they are 36 gallons.

2385
03:37:21,030 --> 03:37:29,750
They are side-loading, meaning the side-opens to take out the bin and change it, easy access.

2386
03:37:30,930 --> 03:37:34,830
And these photos are configured in the way we would like.

2387
03:37:35,610 --> 03:37:40,610
There's a bunch of different configurations, but these are the ones we kind of proposal for,

2388
03:37:41,410 --> 03:37:46,430
demonstrating the rain lid and kind of the color and overall look.

2389
03:37:47,130 --> 03:37:52,750
Victor Stanley and Doomer are, I think, what we typically picture when we think of like a trash can,

2390
03:37:53,250 --> 03:37:58,650
like pretty standard looking stuff, but when it comes to forms and surfaces, what's really cool and

2391
03:37:58,650 --> 03:38:03,170
what Jonathan kind of pointed out when going through the different configurations.

2392
03:38:04,470 --> 03:38:08,570
He can recross this lid, which the model is going to be, you know, a little more expensive.

2393
03:38:08,870 --> 03:38:15,870
But the cool part is that the bottom part, again, this regular trash receptacle, 36 gallons,

2394
03:38:15,870 --> 03:38:22,110
You know, easy load-in load-out at the top is a dedicated recycle compartment.

2395
03:38:22,970 --> 03:38:31,230
And the idea is that instead of having to have one bin dedicated for trash,

2396
03:38:31,230 --> 03:38:33,630
or one bin dedicated for a cycle,

2397
03:38:33,830 --> 03:38:40,050
we can have the same like one uniform trash can to be easier,

2398
03:38:40,610 --> 03:38:43,750
and just be more convenient for someone to walk it around.

2399
03:38:43,750 --> 03:38:48,110
they don't have to walk far to see both trash and recycle.

2400
03:38:53,130 --> 03:38:57,710
Tonight a new purchase will result in at least 40 new trash cans of receptacles in the

2401
03:38:57,710 --> 03:39:02,370
downturn versus what we have currently, which is 24, 40 recycling receptacles in the

2402
03:39:02,370 --> 03:39:08,050
downturn versus the nine we have, just less trash in the floor because more per units per

2403
03:39:08,050 --> 03:39:15,130
square feet in the downturn means Jonathan, we're talking about it, Daisy Land, there's an anecdote

2404
03:39:15,130 --> 03:39:19,590
out where I think like Walt Disney, he watched people for a day and counted how many feet

2405
03:39:20,270 --> 03:39:25,970
they step before throwing something on the trash. So it just gives people who are just

2406
03:39:25,970 --> 03:39:35,050
downtown easier access to see and more spread out opportunities to use the trash and less

2407
03:39:35,050 --> 03:39:42,990
time looking for a trash and deciding like, oh, I'll talk to this in the bush. And better

2408
03:39:42,990 --> 03:39:51,830
aesthetics as if we go with this form surfaces one it can be like a uniform color and it

2409
03:39:51,830 --> 03:39:56,530
would be just a little bit more consistent for the people in the downtown.

2410
03:40:00,020 --> 03:40:29,700
Again, the recommendation would be to waive formal bidding requirements and consent to purchase of trash recycling receptacles for an amount not to exceed $132,000 as a big number, $713 and $40,000. Based on the finding purchase of the receptacles is, quote, unquote, desirable or necessary, pursuant to Santa Paula Municipal Code Section 4110. And, again, authorize city manager or his days of fee to execute a purchase agreement.

2411
03:40:29,700 --> 03:40:34,760
with forms and surfaces using American Rescue Act Plan funds.

2412
03:40:35,520 --> 03:40:36,760
Thank you for your time.

2413
03:40:37,080 --> 03:40:38,580
I am having to answer any questions.

2414
03:40:39,260 --> 03:40:43,060
I've Jonathan here who obviously has more experience as well,

2415
03:40:43,280 --> 03:40:44,340
going back to the previous fellows.

2416
03:40:44,800 --> 03:40:48,680
And do we have Chris on the Zoom was able to join us?

2417
03:40:48,840 --> 03:40:50,580
We have a representative from Chris,

2418
03:40:51,540 --> 03:40:55,240
way of it Chris from forms and surfaces as well,

2419
03:40:56,180 --> 03:40:59,120
ready to answer any questions.

2420
03:40:59,120 --> 03:41:02,480
and that I might not be able to?

2421
03:41:02,680 --> 03:41:06,200
Is it possible to have the power point up as well at the same time?

2422
03:41:06,320 --> 03:41:07,180
We'll be able to have him.

2423
03:41:08,280 --> 03:41:10,480
We'll be on the near end, and we need to see.

2424
03:41:17,470 --> 03:41:17,950
Thank you.

2425
03:41:17,950 --> 03:41:18,810
I have two questions.

2426
03:41:19,090 --> 03:41:27,270
One is, is this amount, because I don't recall, already a line item in the ARPA funds,

2427
03:41:27,310 --> 03:41:31,910
is it already listed as the amount that would be covered by the ARPA funds?

2428
03:41:32,290 --> 03:41:33,430
As far as I know, no.

2429
03:41:33,430 --> 03:41:33,490
No.

2430
03:41:35,230 --> 03:41:44,750
Well, the monies that were set aside for ARPA were very broad, so they basically were

2431
03:41:44,750 --> 03:41:47,490
labeled as downtown beautification farms.

2432
03:41:48,670 --> 03:41:51,130
Some of those are being put towards the wayfinding effort.

2433
03:41:53,800 --> 03:41:58,350
I think early on we used some towards American and Bloom for their efforts.

2434
03:41:59,110 --> 03:42:05,750
We've improved lighting on the tree well lights, and this would be kind of one of the last pieces.

2435
03:42:06,530 --> 03:42:12,990
The amount that we had kind of theoretically set aside in our minds was something in the $75,000 range.

2436
03:42:13,050 --> 03:42:14,550
This is obviously a lot more than that.

2437
03:42:15,650 --> 03:42:21,910
That will erode some of the monies we would have left over for sign implementation.

2438
03:42:21,910 --> 03:42:30,410
But there is ample money to pay for this project, if the council favors doing it less

2439
03:42:30,410 --> 03:42:37,130
expensively we can either do fewer cans, we can not customize the cans, or we could look

2440
03:42:37,130 --> 03:42:44,250
for a cheaper product, or if you're more inclined to go for quality and aesthetics, then it just

2441
03:42:44,250 --> 03:42:50,790
means that we'll use up the ARPA monies and it means that as we tackle downtown wayfinding

2442
03:42:50,790 --> 03:42:54,230
signs, we might have to find new monies for that.

2443
03:42:54,730 --> 03:42:58,490
Okay, so the monies are there and it's money that expires at some point if we don't use

2444
03:42:58,490 --> 03:42:58,670
it.

2445
03:42:58,950 --> 03:43:06,190
So there's, I do know that PBID has looked at this and would be thrilled to have new trash

2446
03:43:06,190 --> 03:43:08,110
cans on the streets and more of them.

2447
03:43:11,050 --> 03:43:14,310
How is, this might be a question for Chris.

2448
03:43:14,550 --> 03:43:18,010
How is delivery and availability for these units?

2449
03:43:20,650 --> 03:43:25,470
It takes 8 weeks to build them, it takes approximately one week to get across country.

2450
03:43:25,990 --> 03:43:26,170
Okay.

2451
03:43:27,150 --> 03:43:31,130
And the policy you're talking about, I think, included delivery and all of that, right?

2452
03:43:31,390 --> 03:43:32,010
Okay, I think.

2453
03:43:32,390 --> 03:43:34,250
Those are my questions, anyone else?

2454
03:43:34,850 --> 03:43:38,990
What about the customization, what do you mean by that?

2455
03:43:39,170 --> 03:43:41,710
No, I'm not having our city seal on there or logo or whatever.

2456
03:43:42,230 --> 03:43:45,730
Vice Mayor, if I might add, so we have discussed with the forms and

2457
03:43:45,730 --> 03:43:49,890
services, Mr. Kelly, the customization of the units.

2458
03:43:50,430 --> 03:43:52,890
So this evening you're approving an amount not to exceed.

2459
03:43:53,650 --> 03:43:59,370
What we'll do is actually, if you do approve this process, we will go back to Mr. Mason

2460
03:43:59,370 --> 03:44:05,350
and team along with the way-finding team and we will hone in on the aesthetics and the design

2461
03:44:05,350 --> 03:44:13,350
options related to this in terms of, there's different aesthetics, there's different colors,

2462
03:44:13,350 --> 03:44:18,630
and there's also we have the option of putting in our logos on there so we

2463
03:44:18,630 --> 03:44:22,250
would do that at a minimum we would be able to deliver 40 cans to the

2464
03:44:22,250 --> 03:44:26,890
downtown but we just need to approval this evening on the dollar amount not to

2465
03:44:26,890 --> 03:44:33,270
exceed. Councilor Crossway follow up on that so because that was what relates to

2466
03:44:33,270 --> 03:44:38,990
one of my questions was we saw at least three different designs of can so what

2467
03:44:38,990 --> 03:44:42,830
you're saying is that the actual design you would try to work with the way

2468
03:44:42,830 --> 03:44:48,230
finding because this one has scallops and one in here that just has bars and then there was the

2469
03:44:48,230 --> 03:44:57,810
one from the other city that looked pretty. So what you would work with them go. There's one in

2470
03:44:57,810 --> 03:44:59,750
your staff report that isn't in the presentation.

2471
03:45:05,340 --> 03:45:29,980
It was the nicest looking one and it had their logo on it and it said trash on the bottom and it had recycling on the top. That's our aim. That's what we're going for. So we'll work offline with Mr. Mason and the Hunt wayfinding team to make sure that the delivered product aesthetically fits and fits properly in the downtown. What is the capacity up there?

2472
03:45:29,980 --> 03:45:34,800
the recycle portion. It's hard to tell scale.

2473
03:45:35,820 --> 03:45:38,220
It is approximately 16 gallons.

2474
03:45:42,190 --> 03:45:45,910
I was just trying to get a sense of how many water bottles would fit in there.

2475
03:45:46,730 --> 03:45:52,410
One thing I might add that I wanted to elaborate on Mr. Herrera's portion.

2476
03:45:53,190 --> 03:46:00,750
This is a really innovative unique design. It really encourages recycling at each of the locations where

2477
03:46:00,750 --> 03:46:06,630
There's a footprint of one of these particular units which to remind council based on the research

2478
03:46:06,630 --> 03:46:10,370
we only have nine recycling units in the downtown corridor right now.

2479
03:46:11,010 --> 03:46:12,990
So we're drastically going to increase that.

2480
03:46:13,390 --> 03:46:18,710
The other thing that we find is that typically I guess the term now I learned this is they're

2481
03:46:18,710 --> 03:46:25,710
called urban minors, is that there's essentially transits are homeless looking in the trash bins.

2482
03:46:25,710 --> 03:46:30,570
they actually dig and rummage through the bins to find the valuable aluminum and bottles.

2483
03:46:31,070 --> 03:46:35,970
Here, if people are utilizing them properly, they'll actually put those materials up in

2484
03:46:35,970 --> 03:46:41,690
the top, and you actually are encouraging those urban miners to basically pull the items

2485
03:46:41,690 --> 03:46:42,790
out of there easily.

2486
03:46:43,410 --> 03:46:46,970
They can take them with them and turn them in if they want to, or they can leave them,

2487
03:46:47,210 --> 03:46:50,330
and Athens and our city core team will collect them.

2488
03:46:51,470 --> 03:46:51,510
So.

2489
03:46:51,510 --> 03:47:04,050
So, I think the idea is, yeah, we would see less of the entire can being dug up, emptied out, and then only, yeah, the cans and bottles, rather than I think it's inevitable that people will go through them.

2490
03:47:04,370 --> 03:47:12,430
So it would make it easier to get exactly what you're looking for if you're going through it and leave the rest of the trash intact and in the bin.

2491
03:47:14,890 --> 03:47:15,590
That's very important.

2492
03:47:15,990 --> 03:47:16,330
Thank you, Mayor.

2493
03:47:16,510 --> 03:47:20,070
We're going to school right along with our down time beautification, so I'll come forward.

2494
03:47:20,070 --> 03:47:23,070
But it begs question, what do we do with the old containers?

2495
03:47:23,450 --> 03:47:33,590
It'd be nice if we could repurpose them and make them more secure, because I'm sure there's other parks or some place in town we could utilize them, but certainly not if it's going to create the problem and the mess that it does downtown.

2496
03:47:34,250 --> 03:47:39,190
So the other alternative would be if we don't repurpose them, maybe we could donate them like to the school or something.

2497
03:47:42,220 --> 03:47:43,280
We can look into that, Councilman.

2498
03:47:43,540 --> 03:47:43,620
Yeah.

2499
03:47:44,640 --> 03:47:50,840
Say first, if there's other places where we could repurpose them, make them more secure within our parks, whatever.

2500
03:47:50,840 --> 03:47:51,420
First.

2501
03:47:54,300 --> 03:47:59,100
Just for clarification, we have into December 31st of this year, right, on our defense.

2502
03:47:59,620 --> 03:47:59,780
Correct.

2503
03:48:00,120 --> 03:48:01,260
To obligate the funds.

2504
03:48:05,040 --> 03:48:05,700
More questions?

2505
03:48:06,300 --> 03:48:06,920
Any motion?

2506
03:48:13,780 --> 03:48:16,200
So I'll, let's see, I'll wave, let's see, we're on, yeah.

2507
03:48:16,600 --> 03:48:20,020
Wave formal bidding requirements and consent to purchase of trash and recycling

2508
03:48:20,020 --> 03:48:25,820
receptacles for an amount not to exceed $132,713 and $0.42, based on the findings

2509
03:48:25,820 --> 03:48:29,580
that purchase other receptacles is desirable or necessary,

2510
03:48:29,580 --> 03:48:32,800
I'm sorry, a person to a San Paul Minism Code section 4110

2511
03:48:33,400 --> 03:48:36,720
and authorize senior manager or his designate to execute a purchase

2512
03:48:37,300 --> 03:48:40,260
agreement with forms plus surfaces using American Rescue Plan

2513
03:48:40,260 --> 03:48:41,480
Act Arpefants.

2514
03:48:43,480 --> 03:48:44,260
So second?

2515
03:48:48,440 --> 03:48:49,360
I guess a little second.

2516
03:48:49,900 --> 03:48:51,020
We're getting tired here.

2517
03:48:52,500 --> 03:48:55,120
I'm sorry, I was waiting to make a motion to extend the meeting

2518
03:48:55,120 --> 03:48:55,960
when the item was done.

2519
03:48:56,080 --> 03:48:56,560
No, it's okay.

2520
03:48:57,140 --> 03:48:58,260
So you wanted to do that one.

2521
03:48:58,320 --> 03:48:59,260
I was ready to hear that too.

2522
03:48:59,600 --> 03:48:59,880
Okay.

2523
03:49:00,100 --> 03:49:00,520
All right.

2524
03:49:00,760 --> 03:49:04,420
I just want to put this out there for folks

2525
03:49:04,420 --> 03:49:06,220
that don't understand the term ARPA.

2526
03:49:06,920 --> 03:49:12,940
Kid, you can staff elaborate what ARPA is for those that are watching, so that, and

2527
03:49:12,940 --> 03:49:19,600
specify what the intent of those funds are, that these are necessarily funds that we can

2528
03:49:19,600 --> 03:49:21,220
use for simply other sources.

2529
03:49:21,680 --> 03:49:24,320
Sure, Vice Mayor, excellent question.

2530
03:49:24,680 --> 03:49:32,020
So American Rescue Plan Act funds are funding, bless you, that came through after the COVID-19

2531
03:49:32,020 --> 03:49:37,760
experience and was funny, money that was transferred down from the federal government through

2532
03:49:37,760 --> 03:49:40,160
the state down to local governments.

2533
03:49:40,800 --> 03:49:46,600
And every city, including Santa Paula, was given an allocated amount based on a particular

2534
03:49:46,600 --> 03:49:47,460
amount of factors.

2535
03:49:47,840 --> 03:49:54,280
Our particular city received approximately $7.1 million in two separate tranches in the

2536
03:49:54,280 --> 03:49:56,520
past three years thereabouts.

2537
03:49:56,520 --> 03:49:59,980
And those funds are meant to really provide a

2538
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:28,780
There are a few different things in the community, economic stimulus, based on the after-effects of COVID-19, utilizing the funds for general city services where a lot of cities actually either had to dip into reserves or cut down on staff. There were a lot of ramifications from it. So, staff has come over the past 30 years to council extensively to understand your priorities and considerations related to that.

2539
03:50:28,780 --> 03:50:36,140
the $7.1 million just to share out there a large portion of that ARPA funding actually went

2540
03:50:36,140 --> 03:50:41,340
to the Harvard Boulevard Paving Project and also the Mesa Tanks. That was one of the kind

2541
03:50:41,340 --> 03:50:47,080
of the first big areas that you put large chunks of that money into. There's several

2542
03:50:47,080 --> 03:50:53,320
other categories that have been outlined and I have made a note it is not there yet but

2543
03:50:53,320 --> 03:50:54,380
But it's still on my list.

2544
03:50:54,540 --> 03:50:59,960
We will get a full accounting on the website of all the different areas that you've allocated

2545
03:51:00,550 --> 03:51:04,680
for your ARPA, monies, including this transaction tonight.

2546
03:51:06,140 --> 03:51:07,680
Great, I'm glad to cut that.

2547
03:51:08,680 --> 03:51:08,960
Okay.

2548
03:51:09,500 --> 03:51:10,440
We'll call for the question.

2549
03:51:10,560 --> 03:51:11,540
All those in favor?

2550
03:51:12,240 --> 03:51:12,460
Aye.

2551
03:51:12,920 --> 03:51:13,420
Opposed?

2552
03:51:13,880 --> 03:51:14,760
Motion carries.

2553
03:51:15,440 --> 03:51:20,960
I would make a motion that we extend our meeting past 1030 so that we can finish our meeting

2554
03:51:20,960 --> 03:51:23,780
with the request that we make our council reports quick at the end.

2555
03:51:24,020 --> 03:51:24,880
I'll stick at that.

2556
03:51:25,460 --> 03:51:25,980
Thank you, Council.

2557
03:51:26,740 --> 03:51:28,560
Thank you, Mr. Herrera and Mr. Royas.

2558
03:51:28,600 --> 03:51:29,760
We appreciate your time on this.

2559
03:51:30,020 --> 03:51:31,480
We're very excited about the project.

2560
03:51:32,980 --> 03:51:37,800
And so we need to call for the extension of our meeting.

2561
03:51:38,160 --> 03:51:39,020
All those in favor?

2562
03:51:39,780 --> 03:51:40,040
Aye.

2563
03:51:40,180 --> 03:51:40,300
Aye.

2564
03:51:40,800 --> 03:51:41,200
Opposed?

2565
03:51:41,640 --> 03:51:45,560
Okay, we will continue because we want to hear from Christy.

2566
03:51:46,020 --> 03:51:46,980
Is that the next one?

2567
03:51:47,220 --> 03:51:47,420
No.

2568
03:51:48,340 --> 03:51:49,260
Oh no, it is not.

2569
03:51:49,260 --> 03:52:01,400
Not, it is the ballot first, sorry, 11E, ballot argument concerning in one sent one, city transactions and you sales tax measure on the November 5, 2024 ballot.

2570
03:52:02,320 --> 03:52:13,540
Madam Mayor, we're joined by BBK representative Jim Priest, although this might be passed as bad time, so I'd like to say thank you for staying with us wherever you are.

2571
03:52:13,540 --> 03:52:17,580
It's going to be still available, you'll recall.

2572
03:52:17,820 --> 03:52:18,600
Can you hear me?

2573
03:52:19,140 --> 03:52:19,360
Yes.

2574
03:52:19,640 --> 03:52:19,800
Yes.

2575
03:52:20,100 --> 03:52:23,020
And you'll recall meeting him at your meeting two weeks ago.

2576
03:52:23,140 --> 03:52:27,920
This item is returning to you for any further considerations based on that direction.

2577
03:52:29,020 --> 03:52:31,980
Mr. Priest, did you want to give a little overview or should we just?

2578
03:52:33,440 --> 03:52:36,420
I can give a quick overview and I promise I will be brief.

2579
03:52:38,580 --> 03:52:39,800
Good evening, Madam Mayor.

2580
03:52:39,800 --> 03:52:43,000
members of the Council, honorable staff, Jim Priest, best, best, and career.

2581
03:52:43,560 --> 03:52:48,460
The Council will remember that at your last meeting you adopted three resolutions to place

2582
03:52:48,460 --> 03:52:51,440
the sales tax measure on the November 5th ballot.

2583
03:52:52,080 --> 03:52:58,000
One of those resolutions set rules and deadlines for arguments that would be printed in the ballot

2584
03:52:58,000 --> 03:53:00,000
for and against the measure.

2585
03:53:01,000 --> 03:53:06,000
Consistent with the Elections Code, that resolution authorizes the following persons to write

2586
03:53:06,000 --> 03:53:07,680
an argument for against the measure.

2587
03:53:07,680 --> 03:53:13,020
the Council or any members of the Council, an individual voter who can vote on the measure,

2588
03:53:13,700 --> 03:53:19,160
a bona fide association of citizens, or any combination of citizens and associations.

2589
03:53:20,000 --> 03:53:29,000
As a last housekeeping item, staff is requesting Council direction as to whether the Council wishes to

2590
03:53:29,000 --> 03:53:36,780
delegate authorship of an argument for against the measure to a subcommittee so that the Council would

2591
03:53:36,780 --> 03:53:42,900
be authoring an argument or whether the council wants to just allow individual citizens

2592
03:53:42,900 --> 03:53:48,380
and associations to write an argument and the city council would not be writing one.

2593
03:53:49,100 --> 03:53:55,260
If the council decides not to submit an argument or delegate to a subcommittee, then no further

2594
03:53:55,260 --> 03:54:01,260
action is necessary this evening. If you do want to do so, then you should delegate those

2595
03:54:01,260 --> 03:54:04,060
members tonight. It could be one or two members.

2596
03:54:04,780 --> 03:54:13,100
We do have some ground rules written in the staff report if the council does decide to delegate writing an argument to a subcommittee.

2597
03:54:13,680 --> 03:54:25,660
But again, if the council chooses not to do so this evening and just leave it to citizens and the associations out there in the community to prepare the arguments and know for their action is necessary this evening.

2598
03:54:26,120 --> 03:54:29,240
And that'll conclude my report. I'm happy to answer any questions the council may have.

2599
03:54:29,240 --> 03:54:35,180
Thank you, Mr. Priest, questions, staff, and vice mayor Chavez.

2600
03:54:35,860 --> 03:54:37,560
I have a question,

2601
03:54:39,970 --> 03:54:46,510
and it's regarding, we made a motion to put something for the voters, right?

2602
03:54:46,810 --> 03:54:47,270
And so,

2603
03:54:49,890 --> 03:54:57,110
what is our limitation on what we can advocate for, on something like that?

2604
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:29,880
Thank you, council member. If the council wants to delegate to a subcommittee to write an argument in favor or against the measure, you can certainly do this evening. Now, in your private time, not using city time, or using city public resources, you are still free as a private citizen that you can go and advocate in favor or against the measure, whatever is your particular position. But again, you cannot be using public resources.

2605
03:55:29,880 --> 03:55:37,260
or public time to do that, and as indicated in the staff report should the council designate

2606
03:55:37,260 --> 03:55:41,980
a subcommittee to write an argument. We have some ground rules listed in there where

2607
03:55:41,980 --> 03:55:48,100
city staff, the city attorney's office, other higher consultants on the public, publicly

2608
03:55:48,100 --> 03:55:55,140
public retainer cannot be used to draft or consult on an argument either. The subcommittee

2609
03:55:55,140 --> 03:56:00,760
would basically have to come together as like two private citizens write the argument

2610
03:56:00,760 --> 03:56:05,720
in their own time on their own resources like their own computer or something like that.

2611
03:56:06,440 --> 03:56:08,680
And then they would file that directly with the city clerk.

2612
03:56:08,900 --> 03:56:14,000
The city as a public agency would have no involvement in writing that argument.

2613
03:56:14,720 --> 03:56:19,460
And again, if you do not designate this evening, then any citizen or association out in the

2614
03:56:19,460 --> 03:56:24,180
community can do so, and likewise, they would be doing that themselves.

2615
03:56:24,180 --> 03:56:29,640
They would not be coming to the city, asking for any resources or assistance in writing that.

2616
03:56:31,200 --> 03:56:35,060
But now it's the measures on the ballot in your private capacity, in your private

2617
03:56:35,060 --> 03:56:38,840
citizen capacity, not using public time or public time.

2618
03:56:39,300 --> 03:56:41,920
You can still advocate and trade over the measure.

2619
03:56:42,120 --> 03:56:43,000
You can certainly do that.

2620
03:56:43,120 --> 03:56:47,340
You just have to be very mindful of when you're wearing your public servant hat and

2621
03:56:47,340 --> 03:56:49,140
when you're wearing your private citizen hat.

2622
03:56:50,020 --> 03:56:56,560
To clarify that, then would that be using your title to, I'm assuming we've not be able

2623
03:56:56,560 --> 03:56:57,380
to use our title.

2624
03:56:57,540 --> 03:57:00,800
We would just use our name as an individual, is that correct?

2625
03:57:01,580 --> 03:57:08,600
I tend to think it's not that big of a deal to use your title because there is not a

2626
03:57:09,520 --> 03:57:14,440
particularly monetary value in using the title.

2627
03:57:14,440 --> 03:57:33,360
So I'm comfortable with you even as a private citizen using your title I would advise that if you are in a private citizen capacity that if you express an opinion of support or opposition that you make it clear that this is my personal opinion my personal position.

2628
03:57:33,400 --> 03:57:36,000
This is not expressing the position of the city.

2629
03:57:36,000 --> 03:57:38,420
Okay, and Mr. Singer had a point out.

2630
03:57:38,420 --> 03:57:47,800
Yes, if I could just interject, BBK has helped to put a simple kind of one-page reminder of the do's and don'ts, kind of the rules of the game.

2631
03:57:48,460 --> 03:57:55,580
I just distributed that to our staff earlier this week, it will be in my Friday update to the council this week.

2632
03:57:56,000 --> 03:58:02,560
So I'll make sure you have that in your hands and it's just a helpful reminder to the vice mayor's question.

2633
03:58:02,560 --> 03:58:12,680
Thank you. So this is requesting direction not necessarily a vote. Do we have a strong

2634
03:58:12,680 --> 03:58:20,900
opinion on this as a council on whether we want to be responsible for putting the argument

2635
03:58:20,900 --> 03:58:24,800
on the ballot or not? Councilmember Crossweight.

2636
03:58:24,800 --> 03:58:40,620
I'm inclined to say we're giving the community a choice, and if community would like to put together a ballot argument, then that would be the direction that I personally would lean.

2637
03:58:40,820 --> 03:58:43,720
I don't know if someone feels strongly in the opposite direction.

2638
03:58:43,720 --> 03:58:53,880
Not in the opposite, but I also feel, as I mentioned last time, I think we should stay as impartial and unattached to this as much as possible as public officials.

2639
03:58:54,640 --> 03:59:02,280
But it comes from a cross-white said, certainly give free reign to anybody out there in the community that would like to speak on behalf of this.

2640
03:59:03,000 --> 03:59:06,480
Any other, same or opposing?

2641
03:59:08,120 --> 03:59:14,000
I think the clarification that was given, you know, provides us guidance in terms of

2642
03:59:14,000 --> 03:59:18,400
our individual ability as private citizens to advocate for something.

2643
03:59:20,270 --> 03:59:22,260
I actually believe the opposite.

2644
03:59:22,700 --> 03:59:23,780
I don't believe we live in Switzerland.

2645
03:59:23,780 --> 03:59:29,980
I think neutrality on this issue, especially in the space that we're in, in the environment

2646
03:59:29,980 --> 03:59:45,020
We're in with social media that we're purviewed to a lot of information that our residents don't necessarily know, understand, know how to navigate.

2647
03:59:46,140 --> 03:59:51,920
So they elect us, they trust us to be a voice for them on these issues.

2648
03:59:51,920 --> 03:59:59,980
and I think we know, you know,

2649
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:10,560
So, where we stand in terms of our finances, our budget, where we're heading, and I believe

2650
04:00:10,560 --> 04:00:15,800
in being and being a strong advocate for something that I know is the right thing to do.

2651
04:00:16,680 --> 04:00:24,360
Not only for our residents, but for our staff, the future of our community. This bond measure

2652
04:00:24,360 --> 04:00:31,510
There is, in my view, a make it or break it moment in time.

2653
04:00:32,750 --> 04:00:36,670
And because of that level of urgency, you know, we see where the numbers are.

2654
04:00:37,230 --> 04:00:41,890
We have a finance presentation coming up right after this where we're going to get some

2655
04:00:41,890 --> 04:00:43,370
bleak information.

2656
04:00:45,210 --> 04:00:53,050
We have to, I believe, in using our influence as a body to make a statement because we have

2657
04:00:53,050 --> 04:00:53,910
that information.

2658
04:00:53,910 --> 04:00:59,950
We have that knowledge knowing what's ahead and I don't want to be in a position where we're going to have to make

2659
04:01:00,950 --> 04:01:07,790
cuts or we're not going to be able to fix our streets in the timely manner that our community is expecting and

2660
04:01:09,210 --> 04:01:15,790
So I counter the argument of neutrality on this issue because it is going to be a nail-biter

2661
04:01:15,790 --> 04:01:21,970
We see that when we double step up and we just let things happen we look at the school board

2662
04:01:23,530 --> 04:01:31,430
bond. And we know what a bond measure can do for the learning environment of the school district,

2663
04:01:31,430 --> 04:01:42,510
the community. And so this bond measure is really critical to our ability to best serve our

2664
04:01:42,510 --> 04:01:52,510
residents. And I would urge us to, if we're going to take a stand on something, this is something

2665
04:01:52,510 --> 04:01:58,370
that we should take a stand on, because of the influence that we do have, currently with

2666
04:02:00,990 --> 04:02:04,890
being gatekeepers of sorts for the community.

2667
04:02:05,010 --> 04:02:10,310
But I do respect the neutrality that my colleagues represent.

2668
04:02:10,610 --> 04:02:15,810
But I'm glad that we have guidance in terms of whatever decisions made here tonight.

2669
04:02:16,270 --> 04:02:19,810
I'll respect that decision, and I will put my neck out and

2670
04:02:19,810 --> 04:02:24,930
in the line as a private citizen out there because I believe in this measure.

2671
04:02:25,890 --> 04:02:26,510
Metambees.

2672
04:02:26,890 --> 04:02:33,170
I just want to caution before somebody else speaks that not to get into the merits of the

2673
04:02:33,170 --> 04:02:40,790
ballot measure again since we already discussed that the last meeting and this item is about

2674
04:02:40,790 --> 04:02:42,990
delegating somebody if council so chooses.

2675
04:02:42,990 --> 04:02:44,230
I appreciate that.

2676
04:02:45,390 --> 04:02:51,610
It's actually for that same reason that I'm going to weigh in on the allowing the public

2677
04:02:51,610 --> 04:02:57,950
to speak on the ballot because certainly members of the public who would advocate for this

2678
04:02:58,270 --> 04:03:05,650
would make the argument and the numbers greater not smaller than being just limited to a council

2679
04:03:07,350 --> 04:03:10,530
advocating can be seen politically in a different way.

2680
04:03:11,110 --> 04:03:40,190
And so, to attempt to keep us separate from the political part of the discussion in the arguments and allow us individually to go out and advocate as individuals for this, should weigh as much, especially if allowed to use a title to identify ourselves rather than saying I am a member of the council, but I speak for myself on the benefits of this, I think would be sufficient.

2681
04:03:40,190 --> 04:03:47,710
and so I to feel have some reservations about putting it on the ballot and also being the

2682
04:03:47,710 --> 04:03:53,950
the the the sole argument for for the passage of that. But yes.

2683
04:03:54,530 --> 04:03:59,710
Well, just to add just to be clear, I'm not advocating that individually outside of this

2684
04:03:59,710 --> 04:04:06,050
meaning we don't take we can't take a position. I'm just saying that in terms of the actual

2685
04:04:06,050 --> 04:04:15,110
Well, argument, I'm not sure that we're the ones that should be making the ballot argument, one way or the other.

2686
04:04:17,030 --> 04:04:29,090
So with a majority of you feeling that inclination, which would be not to have the council endorse something and allow the residents to do so.

2687
04:04:29,090 --> 04:04:41,470
So, would there be any objection to an individual council member volunteering to be part of, I think we're allowed up to five signatories to the argument?

2688
04:04:47,760 --> 04:04:51,180
Mr. Singer, if I am, I just jump in for a second.

2689
04:04:52,660 --> 04:04:59,980
If the council is inclined to delegate an argument to a subcommittee, they can certainly entertain.

2690
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:29,900
In that motion, this evening, if they are not inclined to do so, then they can just not take any action this evening. And individual council members are still free to politically associate with those in the community. And if they want to visually sign an argument, that's their prerogative. And they can certainly do that. There doesn't have to be any action this evening to authorize them to do that. And I didn't mean to imply that. I'm looking kind of more from a decorum standpoint.

2691
04:05:29,900 --> 04:05:36,760
point to not have conflicts amongst our elected officials and make sure that there's just

2692
04:05:36,760 --> 04:05:43,100
a nod that you're not uncomfortable if an individual was part of those residents that

2693
04:05:43,100 --> 04:05:43,940
stepped forward.

2694
04:05:44,360 --> 04:05:49,440
I think that the attorney's advice does not make me uncomfortable.

2695
04:05:50,950 --> 04:05:51,720
I would agree.

2696
04:05:53,660 --> 04:05:54,320
Good.

2697
04:05:54,480 --> 04:05:54,720
I think.

2698
04:05:55,080 --> 04:05:55,120
Good.

2699
04:05:55,180 --> 04:05:56,280
I cannot act at this point.

2700
04:05:56,280 --> 04:06:13,780
Could I add one more thing in there, and Mr. Priest, if you can correct me if I'm wrong, there can only be one rebuttal, so if one council member wants to do that on their own, and then another one wants to do it on their own only one rebuttal will go through, is that correct?

2701
04:06:14,260 --> 04:06:17,100
If you could bring that to the attention of us.

2702
04:06:17,100 --> 04:06:18,580
Certainly, certainly.

2703
04:06:19,100 --> 04:06:24,880
Under the elections code, what happens is there's an opportunity for an argument in favor

2704
04:06:25,240 --> 04:06:27,620
and argument against to be five.

2705
04:06:28,380 --> 04:06:33,520
If multiple arguments are filed on one side or the other, there's a priority list of the

2706
04:06:33,520 --> 04:06:37,180
elections come that helps the city for determine which one gets selected.

2707
04:06:38,560 --> 04:06:45,540
And if that one is selected, and there is also an argument selected for the against side,

2708
04:06:45,540 --> 04:06:47,480
then there can be rebuttals.

2709
04:06:48,320 --> 04:06:55,380
But there was only one rebuttal for each sign that's written by the people whose argument was selected for the first argument.

2710
04:06:56,160 --> 04:07:01,840
You cannot have, you know, completely separate groups doing rebuttals from the primary argument.

2711
04:07:04,830 --> 04:07:05,770
Thank you.

2712
04:07:06,030 --> 04:07:06,510
Appreciate that.

2713
04:07:07,850 --> 04:07:12,830
So, we, the direction is to not take a, take action on this at this time.

2714
04:07:12,830 --> 04:07:13,330
Is that correct?

2715
04:07:13,670 --> 04:07:13,790
Okay.

2716
04:07:14,630 --> 04:07:18,350
That is sufficient for your purposes, correct?

2717
04:07:18,490 --> 04:07:18,610
Yes.

2718
04:07:18,790 --> 04:07:19,110
Thank you.

2719
04:07:19,330 --> 04:07:19,630
Okay.

2720
04:07:20,070 --> 04:07:20,970
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

2721
04:07:21,330 --> 04:07:21,570
All right.

2722
04:07:21,750 --> 04:07:22,450
Thanks for-

2723
04:07:22,450 --> 04:07:23,010
Thank you, Mr. Priest.

2724
04:07:23,590 --> 04:07:25,010
And for waiting us out tonight.

2725
04:07:25,750 --> 04:07:26,950
We appreciate your time.

2726
04:07:28,270 --> 04:07:28,570
Thank you.

2727
04:07:30,310 --> 04:07:30,750
Okay.

2728
04:07:30,950 --> 04:07:36,750
With that, we will move on to item 11F, fiscal year 2325, mid-cycle budget.

2729
04:07:37,330 --> 04:07:37,630
Please.

2730
04:07:38,450 --> 04:07:38,950
Director Ramirez.

2731
04:07:39,770 --> 04:07:40,230
Thank you.

2732
04:07:40,230 --> 04:07:47,370
meeting mayor and council. As noted, we'll be presenting the mid-cycle budget for fiscal year

2733
04:07:47,370 --> 04:07:57,870
2325. That's 2324 and 2425, the biannual budget that you adopted in June of 2023. The fiscal year

2734
04:07:57,870 --> 04:08:04,050
has technically closed. However, we do have a 60-day crawl period, which I'll get into a little bit more.

2735
04:08:04,050 --> 04:08:11,570
I want to start off before we get into the weeds of the figures of the mid-cycle

2736
04:08:11,570 --> 04:08:16,870
adjustments, touching on two topics that are one that was previously presented to you

2737
04:08:16,870 --> 04:08:18,990
and one that is being presented to you tonight for adoption.

2738
04:08:19,550 --> 04:08:28,590
Previously presented to you was a balanced budget policy wherein we requested to have counsel

2739
04:08:28,590 --> 04:08:35,030
adopt a policy really encompassing the idea of a two-year budget, where that budget would

2740
04:08:35,030 --> 04:08:43,650
be balanced over a two-year period. Council had some very valid questions that were asked

2741
04:08:43,650 --> 04:08:48,510
of staff on June 19th. I apologize. There are questions I should have asked myself

2742
04:08:48,510 --> 04:08:57,710
and I normally do. I think we're hoping to get it before the June 30th deadline. And staff

2743
04:08:57,710 --> 04:09:02,150
has since gone and researched per council's direction.

2744
04:09:03,130 --> 04:09:08,090
Unfortunately, that research had two outcomes.

2745
04:09:09,030 --> 04:09:11,370
The first is that the auditor said they had no problem

2746
04:09:11,370 --> 04:09:16,870
with the idea of a two year balance budget.

2747
04:09:17,190 --> 04:09:18,310
As long as in the first year,

2748
04:09:18,450 --> 04:09:19,930
you're not using reserves to balance

2749
04:09:19,930 --> 04:09:22,250
the revenue that would be coming in in the second year,

2750
04:09:22,730 --> 04:09:26,270
which kind of defeats the idea of a balance budget, right?

2751
04:09:26,270 --> 04:09:30,070
in reality then all you're doing is using carry-over surplus funds.

2752
04:09:31,830 --> 04:09:37,110
The local comparison that we use from another city included language regarding a minimum

2753
04:09:37,110 --> 04:09:43,670
fund balance which again kind of has the same idea of at the end of the day you're just

2754
04:09:43,670 --> 04:09:47,930
using existing fund balance for them it might be a little bit different in that they don't

2755
04:09:48,550 --> 04:09:54,030
move any excess or surplus at the end of the year to their reserve fund and that might be

2756
04:09:54,030 --> 04:09:58,590
the difference between that city and our city. Again, my contact there isn't

2757
04:09:58,590 --> 04:09:59,810
longer there, so I wasn't able to.

2758
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:29,920
Follow up and kind of dig a little bit deeper into their thought process. But with that, that means that we are not returning to you with a balanced budget policy for adoption. Instead, what we're going to do is we're going to return to you with a request to use reserves for the first fiscal year shortfall. As you know, staff has come to you multiple times throughout this past year, letting you know that there were going to be revenue shortfalls.

2759
04:10:29,920 --> 04:10:31,640
some of which we're going to be permanent.

2760
04:10:32,020 --> 04:10:37,640
They were not going to be revenues that were going to be realized because of project changes

2761
04:10:37,640 --> 04:10:39,060
to certain development activity.

2762
04:10:40,140 --> 04:10:46,520
Others were revenues that were going to be realized in the coming fiscal year due to delays

2763
04:10:46,520 --> 04:10:48,400
to some development activity.

2764
04:10:49,400 --> 04:10:55,200
So the budget is balanced for 2324 on the permanent revenue side.

2765
04:10:55,900 --> 04:11:05,180
However, for the delayed revenue, that's where the idea of the balance budget came in because we're no longer pursuing that.

2766
04:11:05,680 --> 04:11:12,740
We'll need to return to you just like we do with emergencies to request the use of reserve funds.

2767
04:11:12,960 --> 04:11:21,740
Thankfully those reserve funds will be supplemented or replaced within the first couple of months of the year because like we said,

2768
04:11:21,740 --> 04:11:24,160
the revenues expected is just delayed.

2769
04:11:26,560 --> 04:11:30,700
However, because while we are in July, we do have a two-month

2770
04:11:30,700 --> 04:11:37,320
period where revenues continue to be received, so we'll have a better idea in August of where things

2771
04:11:37,320 --> 04:11:46,180
stand. Most significantly for cell stacks. Cell stacks happens on a two-month look-back period,

2772
04:11:46,180 --> 04:11:50,540
and the first two months in every quarter are advances based on prior

2773
04:11:50,540 --> 04:11:54,780
your activity and the third quarter is when they really true up the total. So

2774
04:11:55,460 --> 04:11:59,820
that money won't be receivable around August 25th but they'll let us know by

2775
04:11:59,820 --> 04:12:03,940
August 12th so we should be able to come to council at least communicates a

2776
04:12:03,940 --> 04:12:07,740
council what the final figures will be towards the end of August and then come in

2777
04:12:07,740 --> 04:12:10,200
September with a resolution for that.

2778
04:12:13,950 --> 04:12:15,890
The other option the other item that's being

2779
04:12:15,890 --> 04:12:30,210
And presented is the GAN Annual Limit, that is something that has noted in the staff report on this slide is an adoption that occurs every year typically on a one year budget cycle.

2780
04:12:30,890 --> 04:12:45,830
It gets adopted with the budget for this year and last budget cycle, we've had to come to you in the middle of the budget cycle to adopt this year's because we don't receive the data from the states or from the department of finance.

2781
04:12:45,830 --> 04:12:50,810
with the present population that includes the numbers that we use to calculate until May.

2782
04:12:51,710 --> 04:12:54,770
So that is also being presented to you today.

2783
04:12:57,290 --> 04:13:03,050
So we have two slides really, then encompass what is being requested.

2784
04:13:03,350 --> 04:13:06,990
Again, unfortunately decreased revenues.

2785
04:13:07,830 --> 04:13:15,390
The good news is that for the most part, the two big numbers that you see up there are numbers that were previously communicated to you.

2786
04:13:15,390 --> 04:13:23,370
and have been addressed with expense decreases and expense as we'll get into in the next slide.

2787
04:13:23,890 --> 04:13:29,310
The building permits and plan check fees decreases of one point, almost $1.2 million

2788
04:13:30,190 --> 04:13:34,350
related to the same development activity that had their project scope changed.

2789
04:13:35,690 --> 04:13:42,530
The school resource officer reimbursement, originally we had around $300,000 that we were

2790
04:13:42,530 --> 04:13:48,410
hoping to get reimbursed in the past that would amount was closer to 250 and as it goes,

2791
04:13:48,790 --> 04:13:57,070
as time goes, you know, that amount increases because we had new officers who didn't have

2792
04:13:57,070 --> 04:14:01,010
the significant unfunded accrued liability costs associated with them in those positions.

2793
04:14:01,290 --> 04:14:09,490
We ended up getting lower revenues recognized. This is actually still reflecting two officers,

2794
04:14:09,490 --> 04:14:16,150
to full-time school resource officers, so if we end up not having to, that number will go down again.

2795
04:14:16,910 --> 04:14:21,550
For property taxes, we've increased, actually let me stick to the decreases.

2796
04:14:22,250 --> 04:14:29,290
Sales tax is another figure that we communicated in the past to be lower than the projected amounts,

2797
04:14:30,030 --> 04:14:36,290
and we'll know whether that figure of 260,000 for next year's revenues of 3.4 million

2798
04:14:36,290 --> 04:14:46,450
and is reflective of what we're seeing based on the August activity on the positive side.

2799
04:14:46,790 --> 04:14:54,170
The property taxes, we don't typically budget for residuals because they range significantly.

2800
04:14:54,510 --> 04:14:57,010
This past year, we had $200,000 in residuals.

2801
04:14:57,010 --> 04:14:59,970
the year prior to that was I want to

2802
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:29,980
We're going to see 90,000, so it really ranges. I'm comfortable with 100,000 that's a little conservative amount. And what we're going to do is we're going to we're going to do a really detailed analysis of a breakdown between residuals and regular ongoing property taxes because that's one of the questions that always gets asked of us is how much is just our regular portion of property taxes and then how much is the true up when people buy a house and they have to do supplemental taxes.

2803
04:15:29,980 --> 04:15:34,080
So we're going to have a more detailed analysis, but for now I'm very comfortable with

2804
04:15:34,080 --> 04:15:38,000
100,000 and I actually feel like we might be able to go a little bit higher.

2805
04:15:40,640 --> 04:15:51,400
So that shortfall in revenues is being offset with a significant change in the budgeted expenses

2806
04:15:51,400 --> 04:15:57,740
and primarily those are going to be, I'm going to narrow it down to three categories.

2807
04:15:57,740 --> 04:16:06,420
categories. The first is actually four categories. The first is a lot of savings in IT. You have a

2808
04:16:06,420 --> 04:16:13,740
very confident and capable IT manager who feels that he has already saved a lot of money, and he likes to

2809
04:16:13,740 --> 04:16:20,160
remind me of it every time, but can find additional savings or at least postpone some things that can be

2810
04:16:20,160 --> 04:16:29,420
postpone to another year. The second is $40,000 for the re-key system of City Hall that

2811
04:16:29,420 --> 04:16:37,240
is the Parks and Recreation Director feels can wait another year. And the last is the implementation

2812
04:16:37,790 --> 04:16:43,580
of the Compton Class Study for this year because obviously we didn't have the Compton Class Study

2813
04:16:43,580 --> 04:16:54,060
last year. So we do have in the increased column $50,000 identified within that $75,000 for

2814
04:16:54,060 --> 04:17:00,100
the Compton Class Study. And the hope is that in the future we will have the funds to

2815
04:17:00,100 --> 04:17:06,760
be able to implement what is found in the Compton Class Study. And also included in the increased

2816
04:17:06,760 --> 04:17:13,300
This column is $27,000 for, oh, I should note, Council originally budgeted $50,000.

2817
04:17:13,440 --> 04:17:18,440
We are requesting $75,000 for the Compton Cast Study this year, because we are seeing

2818
04:17:18,960 --> 04:17:21,300
increased estimates of that study.

2819
04:17:22,440 --> 04:17:31,140
Second is the increase of $50,000 for legal costs, which we can discuss more, but we're finding

2820
04:17:31,140 --> 04:17:41,740
that the retainer amounts that was agreed to were exceeding that amount for a variety of

2821
04:17:41,740 --> 04:17:46,380
different reasons including public records requests and some other investigations and

2822
04:17:46,380 --> 04:17:58,160
whatnot that were going on. And lastly is $55,000 for the Mark 43 system. Mark 43 is the new

2823
04:17:58,160 --> 04:18:07,000
system in PD that thankfully ARPA was able to fund. However, what was not

2824
04:18:07,000 --> 04:18:11,200
incorporated was the difference between TrackNet, the previous system of

2825
04:18:11,200 --> 04:18:17,460
$26,000 per year versus Mark 43, the ongoing annual amount of $8,000 per year.

2826
04:18:18,060 --> 04:18:24,140
So this is incorporating that difference. Any questions before I move on from

2827
04:18:24,140 --> 04:18:24,560
on this side.

2828
04:18:26,850 --> 04:18:26,930
Okay.

2829
04:18:29,150 --> 04:18:34,290
So that's obviously not the same amount as the revenue shortfall.

2830
04:18:34,810 --> 04:18:41,850
And this is the last category that I mentioned earlier and that is the savings, the salary

2831
04:18:41,850 --> 04:18:47,490
savings from vacant positions that are expected in the next fiscal year. And the City Manager

2832
04:18:47,490 --> 04:18:54,390
will speak more on that. I will say that if anyone notices that the amount is balanced

2833
04:18:54,390 --> 04:19:00,050
and perfectly from the revenue shortfall to the amount that is being decreased, that

2834
04:19:00,050 --> 04:19:00,950
is intentional.

2835
04:19:01,210 --> 04:19:03,950
We do actually anticipate that there might be more savings.

2836
04:19:04,350 --> 04:19:05,450
There should be more savings.

2837
04:19:06,990 --> 04:19:07,830
There will be more savings.

2838
04:19:07,990 --> 04:19:08,930
Let me be more confident on that.

2839
04:19:09,030 --> 04:19:15,590
There will be more savings from these vacant positions, and also from the hiring of newer officers,

2840
04:19:17,950 --> 04:19:22,990
and staff will come back to you, we're currently doing a more detailed analysis and updating

2841
04:19:22,990 --> 04:19:28,570
our complete budget numbers so that we have very specific figures to come back to you.

2842
04:19:29,110 --> 04:19:33,930
It also is a more conservative approach just like we are doing with the property taxes.

2843
04:19:36,300 --> 04:19:39,220
So as you know, labor is our largest expense.

2844
04:19:39,440 --> 04:19:45,660
It is for any governmental organization, it's our people that are out there doing the work.

2845
04:19:46,340 --> 04:19:54,280
So being able to identify either freezing or reducing the time that bodies are spent in positions.

2846
04:19:54,280 --> 04:19:59,680
At the beginning of a fiscal year, it allows us also to realize the greatest cost of savings.

2847
04:20:01,040 --> 04:20:30,220
We went into an exercise with the executive team three weeks ago, both on the supplies and services, as Ms. Ramirez just covered with you, where it is that we know we're going to need more money, but also where it is we felt we could save money. And we also have come up with opportunities to reduce costs related to personnel savings. So I want to be clear about just a few things.

2848
04:20:30,220 --> 04:20:34,380
A few things here. One is that we're not proposing elimination of any of these positions.

2849
04:20:36,400 --> 04:20:44,580
We would hope to be able to fill many of them, even this fiscal year, that might just have to come later in the fiscal year if things are looking up.

2850
04:20:47,960 --> 04:20:53,840
And these all come with the support of the departments who had requested them.

2851
04:20:53,840 --> 04:21:01,140
So I just wanted you to know this isn't a top down, okay, Dan took a knife to these positions.

2852
04:21:01,140 --> 04:21:07,840
These were offered up from our departments all trying to do their part to help us have a balanced budget.

2853
04:21:09,420 --> 04:21:18,320
I want to mostly point out that in the police department, because I'm sure you would have concerns about taking sworn officers off the street.

2854
04:21:19,040 --> 04:21:20,480
That's not what's happening here.

2855
04:21:20,480 --> 04:21:27,880
As you know, we had a fairly significant departure of more tenured personnel in the police

2856
04:21:27,880 --> 04:21:35,440
department that we have since hired back and are almost fully staffed at the officer level.

2857
04:21:37,120 --> 04:21:44,240
We have one upcoming resignation that the chief is already in the process of looking at

2858
04:21:44,240 --> 04:21:44,940
replacing.

2859
04:21:44,940 --> 04:21:52,380
So, what we do have, however, is at the higher levels at the sergeant and senior officer levels,

2860
04:21:53,560 --> 04:21:57,200
vacancies that we don't yet have people ready to fill.

2861
04:21:58,360 --> 04:22:04,500
We are going to do some external recruiting for some of our sergeant vacancies

2862
04:22:04,500 --> 04:22:06,740
and also some internal promotions.

2863
04:22:06,740 --> 04:22:10,640
So, we anticipate trying to fill one or two of those spots.

2864
04:22:10,640 --> 04:22:20,960
But that last sixth position, we could realistically see being vacant for at least this next year.

2865
04:22:21,720 --> 04:22:26,280
And then with some of the senior officers that would still open up the opportunity for internal promotion.

2866
04:22:27,040 --> 04:22:36,860
But realistically with a lot of the new hires, they simply wouldn't have the mandatory requirements to move up until they've got a few years under their belt.

2867
04:22:37,380 --> 04:22:44,960
So this just reflects the opportunity to save money in positions we're not going to be able to fill, but it's not related to getting

2868
04:22:46,240 --> 04:22:51,880
cops out on the street and I just wanted the public to understand that and also the council to be clear on that and

2869
04:22:51,880 --> 04:22:58,040
Mr. Aguilar is still holding down one of the seats in the back of the room if you have questions for him

2870
04:22:59,280 --> 04:23:00,980
as are some of our other directors.

2871
04:23:00,980 --> 04:23:08,440
Directors where you see like three months or six months listed what it relates to is that it will

2872
04:23:09,640 --> 04:23:15,500
mean if if there's three months of savings, it means that we will allow that position to be filled, but

2873
04:23:15,500 --> 04:23:19,980
Realistically, we might just now be starting to advertise for it and so we know that

2874
04:23:19,980 --> 04:23:25,780
We'll have three months of salary savings until we get someone in that in that chair

2875
04:23:26,520 --> 04:23:28,820
Same thing was something that might say six months

2876
04:23:29,780 --> 04:23:34,840
where we do still anticipate filling the position, we'll just do it a little later into the fiscal year.

2877
04:23:36,220 --> 04:23:45,340
With that, I'll take any questions about personnel, and then, either Ms. Ramirez or I could answer questions about the budget recommendations.

2878
04:23:47,260 --> 04:23:47,900
I see.

2879
04:23:50,760 --> 04:23:57,200
In terms of community and economic development, there's two positions listed on here, Associate Planner and Community Development Technician.

2880
04:23:58,820 --> 04:24:17,720
We talked about there being a bottleneck and your team having to basically all hands on Zach, which again, this is a department that we're relying on for future growth, economic growth, that's going to bring in tax revenue.

2881
04:24:17,720 --> 04:24:17,880
You know,

2882
04:24:20,220 --> 04:24:35,280
of these two positions would freeing up one of those positions at least, help with speeding up the permitting issue.

2883
04:24:36,120 --> 04:24:41,560
And my big concern is that when you have it all heads on deck, something falls through the cracks.

2884
04:24:42,720 --> 04:24:51,620
and I believe that you've been, your department has been doing a lot again with last but we really,

2885
04:24:51,820 --> 04:24:56,400
if we're going to do something that's going to have an impact, you need more hands

2886
04:24:56,400 --> 04:24:58,940
or there needs to be more people to help you.

2887
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:29,900
For all the great things that are happening within your department. So, can you elaborate a little bit about how these two positions, what their roles and responsibilities are and? Yes, based on being able to get permits out and get plan checks done. What's really critical, that could help us is that community development technician. And this six month period really fits within that. We need to modify that. I've already talked to HR about modifying that

2888
04:25:29,900 --> 04:25:35,400
that position, that community development technician is very much entry-level planning position

2889
04:25:35,840 --> 04:25:43,280
and we'd like to have the job description be more in alignment with what the title is

2890
04:25:43,280 --> 04:25:47,940
that it's a, we call it a utility player within the department.

2891
04:25:48,540 --> 04:25:55,060
So modifying that position, advertising for that position, that six-month period makes

2892
04:25:55,060 --> 04:26:00,160
make sense for us to be able to work through that to have that available and and we can

2893
04:26:00,160 --> 04:26:05,300
start to recalibrate what we have inside and we'll have input and implementation of

2894
04:26:05,300 --> 04:26:10,360
city gate stuff. So it's it works with what we want to do and what we need to do.

2895
04:26:11,180 --> 04:26:15,880
Because we will need to come back to council with a new job description and classification.

2896
04:26:15,880 --> 04:26:23,970
Yeah. My biggest concern is that we cut six months down the road. And then we don't have the fund.

2897
04:26:24,610 --> 04:26:33,950
Well, what's not listed on there, which is still in recruitment is building inspector, which frees up our code person and gives us another person.

2898
04:26:34,110 --> 04:26:37,710
So that, so we're on the same page.

2899
04:26:38,350 --> 04:26:46,910
And if I may mention the community economics development technician used to be 12 months when we started this process and your city managers had the same thought.

2900
04:26:46,910 --> 04:26:50,490
and so that was changed to six months for the same reason.

2901
04:26:51,310 --> 04:26:52,030
Accelerate that.

2902
04:26:55,170 --> 04:26:55,690
Councilmember.

2903
04:26:55,690 --> 04:26:56,110
Thank you, Mayor.

2904
04:26:56,290 --> 04:26:58,410
Well, I'm looking at the accounting specialist.

2905
04:26:58,670 --> 04:27:00,970
Is that a position that, because we don't have it,

2906
04:27:01,070 --> 04:27:04,930
we're not making billing or keeping up with revenue coming in?

2907
04:27:05,110 --> 04:27:06,890
I mean, wouldn't that position kind of help pay for itself?

2908
04:27:08,910 --> 04:27:14,950
So I'm biased, obviously, and I actually just

2909
04:27:14,950 --> 04:27:43,090
I had a conversation with my existing accounting specialist who's doing double duty and in the context of another conversation, I said, hey, I noticed the CPI increase didn't happen on this and he said, I'm so sorry, it was just I dropped the ball with having both positions so there's definitely an impact on staff and on what's occurring, I would hope that we are still doing our best to follow up on accounts receivable as needed.

2910
04:27:43,870 --> 04:27:48,430
However, most more importantly, that position covers business licenses.

2911
04:27:49,090 --> 04:27:58,090
So we felt that the three months was the most that that position could be not filled because that would get them to be hired in October.

2912
04:27:58,670 --> 04:28:02,110
Business licenses, you know, normally goes out in November for renewals.

2913
04:28:02,730 --> 04:28:09,870
So again, your city manager to his credit also said if we're able to fill that a little bit sooner.

2914
04:28:10,450 --> 04:28:16,050
But like Dan said, everyone wanted to make sure that they were doing their part in considering the short fall revenue shortfall.

2915
04:28:16,250 --> 04:28:23,030
All your department directors thought hard about what we could do without and that's what we thought for three months.

2916
04:28:23,590 --> 04:28:27,050
And like we said, Dan said, we could start recruitment for now.

2917
04:28:27,810 --> 04:28:32,290
Well, thank you, and it's understood that you'll work, somebody mistakes are going to happen, so.

2918
04:28:32,990 --> 04:28:37,570
But thank you, but that's a good consideration to wait because of the explanation you gave.

2919
04:28:37,570 --> 04:28:38,090
Okay.

2920
04:28:40,550 --> 04:28:41,630
Any other questions?

2921
04:28:43,350 --> 04:28:44,750
Do we have the motion to raise your vote?

2922
04:28:45,690 --> 04:28:48,310
There's a, I don't adopt, yeah.

2923
04:28:49,290 --> 04:28:59,230
Can I ask a question about savings where there I know the, so the chief in his presentation

2924
04:28:59,230 --> 04:29:05,690
tonight talked about the utilizing the Sheriff's Academy, we saved money, and for the benefit

2925
04:29:05,690 --> 04:29:10,130
To the public, I understand how it works when getting reimbursed from post,

2926
04:29:10,670 --> 04:29:16,930
but can maybe the chief or finance director can explain that those reimbursements from post or

2927
04:29:16,930 --> 04:29:21,610
peace officer standards of training are, you know, into the next fiscal year or the next year.

2928
04:29:21,870 --> 04:29:24,250
And so how do you, how do you reconcile that?

2929
04:29:24,550 --> 04:29:25,690
That's a wonderful question.

2930
04:29:25,870 --> 04:29:29,630
So you now have a chief of police who is very supportive of finance staff and

2931
04:29:29,630 --> 04:29:34,890
has said that he would be willing to let us, you know, get into the weeds and reconcile

2932
04:29:34,890 --> 04:29:40,890
because we, the revenue, so it's difficult. Number one, post tells us we're only going

2933
04:29:40,890 --> 04:29:46,290
to reimburse you $75 per day. So it's without the detail, it's hard for us to reconcile

2934
04:29:46,970 --> 04:29:51,710
of what was spent, how much is getting reimbursed, what was actually submitted to get reimbursed,

2935
04:29:51,890 --> 04:29:58,190
that's just we're not very hands on on the financial side. But again, Chief Aguilar has opened

2936
04:29:58,190 --> 04:29:59,930
the door for us. There's been a

2937
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:22,180
A couple of hiccups with post and getting approval and authorization, but we are on the path to having a better answer for you. Right now, what I can tell you is that some of the revenue that is received or at least was received in 2324 was from years past. So there is a significant delay in that.

2938
04:30:23,040 --> 04:30:37,020
It's not urgent obviously, but sometimes down the road it would be nice to see over these last 10 years how much we've saved versus going out of the county for training and thank you Chief for bringing training back to venture county.

2939
04:30:37,540 --> 04:30:51,960
That information I can give you because we did do an analysis of that and there was a mixture because there is obviously a cost savings to not having $10,000 spent on.

2940
04:30:51,960 --> 04:30:56,020
and on hotel costs because this is not,

2941
04:30:56,100 --> 04:30:58,920
it sounds like a lot, but they're there for months on end.

2942
04:30:59,640 --> 04:31:02,420
So it's for lots of weeks worth of hotel accommodations.

2943
04:31:03,560 --> 04:31:05,380
But there's also been a change

2944
04:31:06,580 --> 04:31:10,040
from having folks share rooms, having individual rooms

2945
04:31:10,040 --> 04:31:13,940
and we've asked other cities, do you make folks share rooms

2946
04:31:13,940 --> 04:31:14,860
and the answers no?

2947
04:31:15,020 --> 04:31:18,900
So I think we're doing, at the time we were doing the best

2948
04:31:18,900 --> 04:31:20,340
we could, we're obviously doing better now

2949
04:31:20,340 --> 04:31:26,180
All by having no hotel costs and having it be local, but we can definitely provide you that information.

2950
04:31:26,580 --> 04:31:29,700
No, I'm not advocating for you to do any extra work right now.

2951
04:31:30,020 --> 04:31:35,180
Take your time if it takes a year or two, but it'd be nice sometimes down the road to know what we've saved or actually more.

2952
04:31:35,380 --> 04:31:38,580
So how much more we were expanding that we probably shouldn't have.

2953
04:31:38,780 --> 04:31:40,240
But it's not important this time.

2954
04:31:40,380 --> 04:31:41,280
Thank you very much.

2955
04:31:43,370 --> 04:31:45,890
Okay, any other questions or a motion?

2956
04:31:46,730 --> 04:31:57,250
Motion to adopt resolution 7523 amending the fiscal year 2425 budget, and adopting the fiscal year 2425 GANN limit.

2957
04:31:59,930 --> 04:32:01,210
I'll second that motion, Mayor.

2958
04:32:01,510 --> 04:32:05,070
Okay. Any other questions before we vote? All those in favor?

2959
04:32:05,650 --> 04:32:05,890
Aye.

2960
04:32:06,610 --> 04:32:11,630
Opposed? Okay. Thank you very much and also for being here so late.

2961
04:32:16,490 --> 04:32:16,810
Okay.

2962
04:32:16,810 --> 04:32:28,880
Okay, we skipped council reports and City Manager Report, so we can run through those relatively quickly.

2963
04:32:29,220 --> 04:32:34,220
I believe we'll just pull that line so

2964
04:32:37,260 --> 04:32:44,140
we will go back to items 8 and 9, Vice Mayor, do you have a report?

2965
04:32:44,340 --> 04:32:45,860
I'm going to skip my report for this evening.

2966
04:32:46,100 --> 04:32:46,340
All right.

2967
04:32:47,360 --> 04:32:48,740
Council Member Crosswhite.

2968
04:32:49,320 --> 04:33:04,500
Just real quick, I did attend two board retreats, one for the Clean Power Alliance, which short version is it was one of the best-run interactive things like that that I've done.

2969
04:33:05,200 --> 04:33:06,560
It was really great.

2970
04:33:06,760 --> 04:33:15,300
They had lots of small group conversations around everything from rate-setting to governance to business models and all kinds of things.

2971
04:33:15,300 --> 04:33:22,200
it was great. And then I also attended a two-day SCAG executive board retreat.

2972
04:33:23,600 --> 04:33:30,080
And then just of all of the other things that happened, just really want to re-emphasize

2973
04:33:30,080 --> 04:33:36,400
how great it was to be able to be there at the graduation for our future leader academy.

2974
04:33:37,260 --> 04:33:42,220
We had a great group of individuals and I really hope that we'll see that again. Thank you.

2975
04:33:44,000 --> 04:33:44,980
Councilmember Horace.

2976
04:33:45,240 --> 04:33:45,580
Thank you, Mayor.

2977
04:33:45,640 --> 04:33:46,380
Just a few things.

2978
04:33:47,060 --> 04:33:55,160
On the 20th, I went to the regional sanitation district where we talk about some expansion and renovations going on the landfill.

2979
04:33:55,400 --> 04:34:02,300
And as it happened, I went yesterday to the landfill to take some personal trash up there in Saisal.

2980
04:34:02,620 --> 04:34:04,260
First hand, some of the improvements are doing.

2981
04:34:04,600 --> 04:34:09,380
I went on the Friday the 21st and robin of a new superior court judge.

2982
04:34:09,380 --> 04:34:21,280
This was Judge Dana K. Caudill, it's only the second one I've ever attended, it's a very nice ceremony where a judge is elevated by a point of a Governor Newsom to the bench.

2983
04:34:22,280 --> 04:34:25,920
I attended, as other council members, it's the youth pride event on the 23rd Sunday.

2984
04:34:26,500 --> 04:34:30,460
We all had a Joint City Council Planning Commission meeting on the 24th.

2985
04:34:30,900 --> 04:34:33,660
I think most of us attended the future leaders' graduation.

2986
04:34:34,320 --> 04:34:43,080
There was an annual historical site dinner where we talked about the 122 years of law enforcement chief Aguilar and retired chief of dare spoke as well.

2987
04:34:45,040 --> 04:34:59,240
Let's see, obviously yesterday we had some interviews and then today myself and the mayor helped cook breakfast for the senior, I guess it was the 4th of July pancake breakfast at the senior center.

2988
04:35:00,000 --> 04:35:29,980
And there was a citizen's court meeting at 10 o'clock, and I attended virtually, as we have been, and Chief Williams is in the room, and I did ask him about some of the efforts during the fireworks season. And he said that every year during our fireworks display, they actually have engines or station, just in case just like years ago, there was a mishap at a fireworks display. But because we're using drones this year, he didn't mention that there's going to be a 20 person hand crew that's going to be going between the county line of Ventura to say.

2989
04:35:29,980 --> 04:35:32,300
part of the valley during the firework season.

2990
04:35:33,040 --> 04:35:40,640
And as you heard earlier tonight, there is a upcoming cert training, right, and say

2991
04:35:40,640 --> 04:35:43,460
cert on August 14th, and that's my report, Mayor.

2992
04:35:43,600 --> 04:35:43,860
Thank you.

2993
04:35:44,980 --> 04:35:45,620
Thank you.

2994
04:35:46,460 --> 04:35:47,500
I have a long report.

2995
04:35:47,680 --> 04:35:48,560
I'll give the short report.

2996
04:35:50,220 --> 04:35:55,460
Again, it was really special to be a part, attend the graduation of the Santa Paula Future

2997
04:35:55,460 --> 04:35:59,960
leaders of the academy and what a successful program that turned out to be thanks to a lot

2998
04:35:59,960 --> 04:36:07,740
of work staff, including Mirka, and I've forgotten her last name, so forgive me because I go

2999
04:36:07,740 --> 04:36:09,680
by first name, so it was so many here.

3000
04:36:10,320 --> 04:36:16,320
I intended two memorials over the weekend, Gary Nasal Road and Ruben Gaeta.

3001
04:36:17,040 --> 04:36:20,040
Each one was attended by 350 to 400 people.

3002
04:36:21,920 --> 04:36:27,700
different segments of the community but it was just really touching to see such huge

3003
04:36:27,700 --> 04:36:33,200
communities turning out and they all talked about the importance of family and friends

3004
04:36:33,200 --> 04:36:42,120
and just very common things to bring you back to reality and all the rest has been mentioned

3005
04:36:42,120 --> 04:36:48,760
or can be assumed that we were at other meetings so I'm going to call it that city manager how

3006
04:36:48,760 --> 04:36:49,100
How about you?

3007
04:36:49,360 --> 04:36:57,540
Thank you, Madam Mayor, members of the council, and thank you ice mayor for asking me to do the water thing earlier.

3008
04:36:58,140 --> 04:37:04,900
It's helpful, but just a couple of announcements and some upcoming issues.

3009
04:37:05,120 --> 04:37:12,820
The first is that we've been experiencing some phone telephone problems, especially in our billing and finance department.

3010
04:37:13,220 --> 04:37:15,440
We've been in communication with our providers.

3011
04:37:16,080 --> 04:37:35,600
Our IT officer today confirmed for me that he's been doing kind of a work around, but I just wanted the public to know if they're experiencing dropped calls, it's not because our employees are dropping those, we're having system problems, so we're trying to get those addressed.

3012
04:37:36,540 --> 04:37:38,840
We will be closed, of course, for July 4th.

3013
04:37:38,840 --> 04:37:44,100
The evening of July 4th will have our first ever drone show instead of a fireworks show

3014
04:37:44,640 --> 04:37:51,960
And we're excited about that. You might have seen the article in the star will be the only city in the county to do a drone show

3015
04:37:51,960 --> 04:37:57,420
Now that's not to say that there aren't other drone shows, but for the 4th of July will be the first

3016
04:37:58,080 --> 04:38:04,740
As you know, the X Games just did some and the fair will be doing drones this fair season

3017
04:38:04,740 --> 04:38:10,160
And Harvard has finally gotten started.

3018
04:38:10,480 --> 04:38:13,220
As we said earlier, we're moving quickly.

3019
04:38:14,040 --> 04:38:17,920
Contractors are making great progress, the weather helps, I think.

3020
04:38:18,680 --> 04:38:23,700
And appreciate the community's tolerance of all the problems there,

3021
04:38:23,720 --> 04:38:25,740
especially the businesses that are being impacted.

3022
04:38:26,380 --> 04:38:33,700
But they're moving through quickly, and we would hope by end of next week to pretty much be near done.

3023
04:38:33,700 --> 04:38:38,380
Now, eventually, they'll have to come back and do the striping, but it'll be really nice

3024
04:38:38,380 --> 04:38:38,820
to see.

3025
04:38:39,900 --> 04:38:43,120
Cruise night is this next Friday, don't forget that.

3026
04:38:45,180 --> 04:38:51,600
And finally, thank you for your patience in such a lengthy meeting tonight, but for

3027
04:38:53,000 --> 04:38:59,400
as a reward, we go dark for the rest of the month, so enjoy your time off, enjoy July.

3028
04:38:59,400 --> 04:39:06,960
why we do not anticipate any special meetings being necessary, and we'll look forward to reconvening in August.

3029
04:39:08,440 --> 04:39:09,080
Very well.

3030
04:39:09,720 --> 04:39:10,600
Yes, please.

3031
04:39:11,020 --> 04:39:19,180
I just want to add something so when the City Manager and I were driving down hard, we're curious because we said hey, that looks like almost four inches of asphalt.

3032
04:39:19,520 --> 04:39:25,060
So we actually jumped out real quick and measured it and it was about three and a half, three and three quarter inches thick.

3033
04:39:25,060 --> 04:39:31,780
So I know you've seen on different medias that it's like two inches or whatever, but it's actually three and three and a half

3034
04:39:31,780 --> 04:39:34,200
Maybe a little bit more three and five eights, but

3035
04:39:35,940 --> 04:39:41,300
And that's at the apex, right and there's something different about maybe a little bit at the slope or so

3036
04:39:41,800 --> 04:39:46,140
Anyway, just thought I'd bring that up. Thank you. It's a lot of asphalt. Yes

3037
04:39:47,140 --> 04:39:52,540
It's really exciting. There's a lot of celebrating going on with that. It's just pretty amazing when you drive on that just

3038
04:39:53,360 --> 04:39:55,440
A lot of shouting and hoots.

3039
04:39:55,460 --> 04:39:58,380
We will plan kind of a grand opening.

3040
04:39:58,580 --> 04:39:59,860
Obviously the street will be open.

3041
04:40:00,000 --> 04:40:23,680
Throughout, but probably looking at late and August. Pretty exciting. Simple pleasures, but boy, it's really- We're all in town. Wonderful. We appreciate that. And also with- we have future agenda items, anything to mention at this point to- that's on the agenda. They are not a future agenda item, but what is the progress for a question of future presentation?

3042
04:40:26,080 --> 04:40:30,040
Future presentation? Run it through the mayor and the city manager. Okay.

3043
04:40:30,040 --> 04:40:31,960
Thank you.

3044
04:40:31,960 --> 04:40:32,360
Thank you.

3045
04:40:32,600 --> 04:40:32,740
Great.

3046
04:40:33,300 --> 04:40:34,240
Anything else?

3047
04:40:34,640 --> 04:40:35,340
Are the good of the order?

3048
04:40:36,160 --> 04:40:43,960
I wish everyone a safe and wonderful 4th of July and wonderful month off and we'll see you

3049
04:40:43,960 --> 04:40:45,100
early Augusta.

3050
04:40:45,920 --> 04:40:46,780
And we are adjourned.