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>> Thank you. We have 2 closed

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welcome back, everyone. Thank

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you for being here. Fred. Rica

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meeting Open session. MADAM

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day in video month, Kitty

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of us. The nuance 6, it done

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us, the man to name a list.

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in the kit and is it coming?

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those updates. Stone is, you

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>> Thank you again. Welcome

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everyone move on to item 4.1,

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our South Santa Rosa specific

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plan draft preferred

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alternative. All right. And

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welcome members are planning

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been great to have you back.

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>> Thanks. Good afternoon,

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mayor and council members and

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members of the Public, Amy

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planner. Before we dive into

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the presentation, I'd like to

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specific plan process and what

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we are asking. Of the council

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today. So this presentation is

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focus on the draft, a

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preferred land use and

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circulation alternative for

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the South Center is a specific

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plan and that reflects the

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feedback on the 3

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alternatives. Were previously

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plan. So this is where housing

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commercial and other types of

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how people can safely move

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with men and through the plan

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area. So are primary. Ask is

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shaping the preferred

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alternative particular,

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improvements. We have heard

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significant concerns about

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housing affordability as well

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as displacement as a result of

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preservation, tenant

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protections. And support for

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annexation. So you won't see

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preferred alternative that

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development process that staff

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council and the community as a

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part of the next round, which

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this fall. Just one other

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partnership between the city

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Sonoma. We've been working

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jurisdiction. So our goal at

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the end of this process is

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jurisdiction and any future

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annexation decisions. So with

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specific feedback on land use

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>> thank you. Supervisor

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Nicholson for that

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introduction Greetings, Mayor

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man is caught him. Okay. I'm a

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senior partner in the morning

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division. I'm very excited to

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plan. Thanks for background to

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an introduction. Supervisor

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Nicholson, I will move through

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the presentation.

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>> Just to talk about will be

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chatting about today. So we'll

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go over what the project has

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consisted of thus far at this

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point in the process and then

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describe the draft referred

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alternative itself and then go

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on to a next steps in the

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specific plan process. So this

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specific plan process started

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with visioning exercise isn't

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getting feedback about issues

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community members vision for

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the use Greater South Center

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is the area this consisted of

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virtual workshops, in-person

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workshops, a survey table

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various events and

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celebrations and things of of

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of that nature in the

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community. We eventually

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released. The alternatives

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report which reflected that

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feedback I've received

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throughout the average

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process. And as you'll

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remember, we did hold a study

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session with the City Council

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on MARCH 24th earlier this

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year and got some feedback

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that discuss later on in my

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presentation. So all that

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feedback that received on land

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use and circulation

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alternatives report is a

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serving is informing the

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preparation of the draft

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preferred alternative that we

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are discussing today the

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outreach that we've performed

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for that first far is that we

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did hold a virtual workshop

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late JULY. And our reach is

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actually still ongoing sort

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table in community events for

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meeting with neighborhood

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groups. We do have another

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survey open that is available

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for folks to take as well. We

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did present it to the planning

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Commission. We have a study

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session with them on Thursday

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of last week. Today's study

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session, obviously with the

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council and then on AUGUST,

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25th, we are presenting to the

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county Board of Supervisors

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has a supervisor. Nicholson

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mentioned it is crucial to

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engage in an ongoing

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partnership with the county

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and ultimately get the boards

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by in on this effort. Then

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later on this year resident

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Wilson mention will move on to

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the preparation of the actual

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specific point itself. And

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that will include the creation

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of those goals and policies

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and the associated

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Implementation strategy. We'll

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also be preparing the

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environmental impact report

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shooting for adoption by the

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council in both the border,

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both the council and the Board

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of Supervisors later on in

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spring of 2027. And then the

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slide. It might be a little

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bit hard to see. But this kind

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of shows where we are in

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overall process. You'll know

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that we're a little bit over

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half way of two-year process.

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I will note as well that

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you'll see a lot of deliver

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exciting deliverables and

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milestones between now and

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good option of the plan. And

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I'll talk a little bit more

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about that during my

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discussion of next steps. So

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just to kind refresh the

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council's memory about what

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the alternatives consisted of.

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So as I mentioned, we took

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feedback from the community

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lived experiences and their

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visions for the South Center

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is area and brought forward 3

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district approaches for

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development and land use

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changes in addition to

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transportation network

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improvements to hopefully

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address those issues and

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achieve the vision is for the

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neighborhoods in this area.

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And all feedback did inform.

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As I mentioned, the creation

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of this trap preferred

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alternative that we're

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discussing today. And briefly

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recap each of the 3

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alternatives that we discussed

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in our meeting last last time

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during our study session. So

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the first alternative is a

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mixed use corridor on Centers

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avenue. It also uses smaller

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or larger parks on the eastern

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portion of the plan area. And

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then a consistent across all 3

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alternatives as you'll notice.

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We are maintaining the

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existing industrial

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designations to the West and

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southwest of the plan area.

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And then the second

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alternative is city center

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growth. So that really focuses

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increased residential

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developments surrounding the

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Costco shopping Center or

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center is a marketplace. And

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finally, number 3 is centers,

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which kind of takes a stripped

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down version of both one into

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and combines them to focus

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increased residential density

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to the south of Costco and a

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stripped down version of the

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mixed use district attorney of

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one primarily in the southern

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southern portion of the

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center's Avenue corridor. And

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so I've touched on a bit

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already, but we did, as I

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mentioned, a hold person and

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virtual workshops. We

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presented to broad range of

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the city and county boards of

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boards and commissions. We did

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hold study Sessions of the

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Planning Commission and City

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Council. In addition to the

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Summit County Planning

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Commission, we post a lot of

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exciting social media content,

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including Instagram, Real

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which I was very happy with.

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In addition to, you know, bus

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to our subscribers. And as I

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mentioned, tabling at existing

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celebrations, Cinco de Mayo

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the Bear Farm Harvest

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Festival. Was a great time

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being out in the community

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hearing from folks. You'll see

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a screen shot on the right

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side of the screen of our of

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our face. But one of our

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Facebook posts on that we

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posted about this effort as

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well. And then as far as

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takeaways, I want to start

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with just kind of summarizing

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the feedback of the council

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provided to during the MARCH

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24th workshop. So we've heard

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a lot of feedback about

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Moreland specifically. We knew

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we wanted to see investment in

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infrastructure Moreland and

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that is bike and ped bicycle

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and pedestrian improvements.

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Increased connectivity to

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Centers avenue and then

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focusing on that investment

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for existing Moreland

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residents and not increasing

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residential densities in the

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Moreland neighborhood due to

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existing to potential

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exacerbation of existing

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infrastructure needs in the

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area. We also heard that we

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like to focus on supporting

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both new and existing

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businesses, particularly along

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the center is Avenue corridor

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and then we heard some

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excitement from the council

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about the of the Greenway

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connections that flows through

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the along the Todd Creek limit

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the are the reaches of the

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Todd Go through the planning

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area. And then we also heard

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support for him feel closer to

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the urban core, acknowledging

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some of the costs of

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infrastructure as you get

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further away from the the true

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Santa Rosa Urban core. And

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then we did broad support for

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keeping displacement issues

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and equity issues at the

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center of our approaches to

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the discussions of these of

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issues. And a lot of the

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public take away. The takeaway

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is that we received the public

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engagement are kind of on your

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screen as you'll see. And

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there's a lot of overlap

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between what the council and

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with County Planning

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Commission and center of

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Planning Commission all said

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but we did kind of we did

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notice we that we experience

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that most people like various

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parts of each alternative but

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didn't have super clear

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oftentimes we noticed and

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share that there needs to be a

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better East-West connection

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from Orland across one-on-one

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into the center is Avenue

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corridor and also back from

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west to east and then my that

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be provided by new multi-modal

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crossing a Bellevue, which is

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consistent with the center is

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a general plan 2050, and is

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supported by our

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transportation public works.

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Folks and then additional

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investment and Moreland. I

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didn't mention sidewalk safer

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streets, lighting public

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transit connections and just

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overall better connections

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throughout the city.

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>> And then there's a lot of

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excitement about Centers

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avenue improvements to allow

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for.

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>> Multi-modal experience and

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and then also, as I mentioned,

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keeping equity displacement.

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Top of mind as we navigate

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throughout this process. Ok,

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moving on to the draft

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preferred alternative. There

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are a couple maps that are a

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little bit hard to read. It's

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always a struggle trying to

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get all necessary information

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like to communicate. So the

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stock, let's through it. And

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if we need to revisit

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anything, I'm happy to do

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that. So we We did take that

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mixed use district from the

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first alternatives and

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centered on Center's avenue

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with a higher density

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residential to the south and

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north of couscous. We

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ultimately combines the urban

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the center of the city center

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growth with the mixed use

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district alternatives. And

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then we decided to integrate

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smaller parks throughout. I

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think a lot of the folks

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preferred kind meandering

585
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creek pathway that connects 2

586
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little outdoor open space

587
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moments along the along the

588
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Pathway and also provides an

589
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opportunity to traverse the

590
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plan area without needing to

591
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be on center is avenue. And

592
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then you'll see a broad

593
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diversity of housing with the

594
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high density housing centered

595
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along the center's Avenue

596
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corridor with media and then

597
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density as you stray further

598
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from the Saint Rose Avenue

599
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corridor. Keeping in mind of

600
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the infrastructure costs

601
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associated with the touch

602
00:21:24,214 --> 00:21:24,814
development. And then as I

603
00:21:24,814 --> 00:21:26,350
mentioned, maintain is

604
00:21:26,350 --> 00:21:29,486
industrial uses to the West in

605
00:21:29,486 --> 00:21:31,188
the south and I'd like to also

606
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note that none of the plan

607
00:21:31,922 --> 00:21:32,622
area, 17 mobile home parks are

608
00:21:32,622 --> 00:21:36,222
proposed to read as a nation

609
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of any kind. Okay. So I talked

610
00:21:40,831 --> 00:21:41,798
a little bit of

611
00:21:41,798 --> 00:21:42,966
transportation, but I was

612
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mainly focusing on the land

613
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use and that slide. So I just

614
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kind of briefly touch upon the

615
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transportation improvements

616
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that are contemplated with the

617
00:21:51,908 --> 00:21:53,908
draft, the preferred

618
00:21:54,711 --> 00:21:55,879
alternative. I mentioned the

619
00:21:55,879 --> 00:21:56,579
center's avenue improvements.

620
00:21:56,579 --> 00:22:00,179
So as you MAY remember, the

621
00:22:00,283 --> 00:22:01,151
city just adopted. They're

622
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active transportation plan.

623
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,222
And the county is also adopted

624
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as well. So the thought is to

625
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just integrate the scientific

626
00:22:08,358 --> 00:22:09,260
findings and recommendations

627
00:22:09,260 --> 00:22:09,726
of those plans and in truth

628
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and then to this plan to make

629
00:22:12,562 --> 00:22:15,562
it a seamless, a seamless

630
00:22:16,867 --> 00:22:17,734
transition integration. And I

631
00:22:17,734 --> 00:22:19,403
mentioned the multimodal pass

632
00:22:19,403 --> 00:22:20,370
along the creek that would

633
00:22:20,370 --> 00:22:22,370
connect neighborhood Park

634
00:22:22,138 --> 00:22:25,138
cynic in existing and new

635
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:26,677
neighborhoods in the plan area

636
00:22:26,677 --> 00:22:27,310
and then improving the

637
00:22:27,310 --> 00:22:29,310
one-on-one crossings both

638
00:22:30,180 --> 00:22:32,820
Baker and Todd Road. And then

639
00:22:32,820 --> 00:22:33,417
a new multi-modal crossing a

640
00:22:33,417 --> 00:22:34,117
Bellevue and potentially a new

641
00:22:34,117 --> 00:22:37,717
bike, a ped crossing at Rules

642
00:22:39,655 --> 00:22:41,691
Avenue. And then will now kind

643
00:22:41,691 --> 00:22:42,392
of zoom in a geographically to

644
00:22:42,392 --> 00:22:43,930
the both the north and in the

645
00:22:43,930 --> 00:22:46,930
central and southern parts of

646
00:22:46,129 --> 00:22:46,930
the plan area to see what are

647
00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:47,598
the actual changes from what

648
00:22:47,598 --> 00:22:49,998
is currently designated up

649
00:22:50,934 --> 00:22:52,690
there. We're getting so

650
00:22:52,690 --> 00:22:54,872
looking at the northern part

651
00:22:54,872 --> 00:22:55,506
of the plan mention that we're

652
00:22:55,506 --> 00:22:56,206
looking at increasing

653
00:22:56,206 --> 00:22:58,206
residential densities around

654
00:23:00,744 --> 00:23:02,646
the Costco area, leveraging

655
00:23:02,646 --> 00:23:05,460
the existing multitude of

656
00:23:05,382 --> 00:23:06,160
options for grocery and

657
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:06,683
entertainment and kind of

658
00:23:06,683 --> 00:23:08,352
other daily needs that are

659
00:23:08,352 --> 00:23:09,190
provided in that Costco

660
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:11,190
shopping center integrating

661
00:23:12,122 --> 00:23:13,991
existing and new neighborhood

662
00:23:13,991 --> 00:23:14,591
parks. I mentioned that the

663
00:23:14,591 --> 00:23:16,591
improved highway, 1, 1,

664
00:23:19,930 --> 00:23:20,998
overcrossing as well. And

665
00:23:20,998 --> 00:23:22,998
improving district overall

666
00:23:23,233 --> 00:23:25,269
existing corridors and new

667
00:23:25,269 --> 00:23:27,237
noon necessary connections to

668
00:23:27,237 --> 00:23:27,938
enhance walkability for both

669
00:23:27,938 --> 00:23:30,938
new and existing residents of

670
00:23:33,376 --> 00:23:34,440
the neighborhood. Moving south

671
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,440
to the central and southern

672
00:23:37,715 --> 00:23:38,883
portions of the plan area so

673
00:23:38,883 --> 00:23:39,950
that this is where you'll see

674
00:23:39,950 --> 00:23:41,218
that mixed use district on

675
00:23:41,218 --> 00:23:42,552
Centers avenue with commercial

676
00:23:42,552 --> 00:23:43,286
centers and active retail

677
00:23:43,286 --> 00:23:45,686
frontage to enhance the

678
00:23:46,123 --> 00:23:47,424
walkability experience in the

679
00:23:47,424 --> 00:23:50,940
area. And they also noticed

680
00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:51,328
that transit hub is kind of a

681
00:23:51,328 --> 00:23:53,728
translucent because folks in

682
00:23:54,532 --> 00:23:56,932
transit wanted the flexibility

683
00:23:59,370 --> 00:24:00,504
to adjust specific location as

684
00:24:00,504 --> 00:24:01,172
development occurs. And as the

685
00:24:01,172 --> 00:24:01,872
city has an opportunity to

686
00:24:01,872 --> 00:24:04,272
procuring necessary right of

687
00:24:06,376 --> 00:24:07,211
way. And then you'll also

688
00:24:07,211 --> 00:24:10,147
notice the low and medium

689
00:24:10,147 --> 00:24:12,283
density housing to the east of

690
00:24:12,283 --> 00:24:12,917
the connection from Mel to

691
00:24:12,917 --> 00:24:15,317
Petaluma Hill Road Condit

692
00:24:15,619 --> 00:24:17,621
operative, your slide there.

693
00:24:17,621 --> 00:24:19,223
And then as I mentioned, all

694
00:24:19,223 --> 00:24:19,924
industrial uses are maintained

695
00:24:19,924 --> 00:24:22,924
and then you'll see Greenway

696
00:24:23,361 --> 00:24:24,280
connection that starts all the

697
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:24,728
way. The top right of your

698
00:24:24,728 --> 00:24:27,128
screen, the northeast portion

699
00:24:27,532 --> 00:24:28,232
of the plan area, that

700
00:24:28,232 --> 00:24:30,201
neighborhood park and follows

701
00:24:30,201 --> 00:24:31,903
the creek path way all the way

702
00:24:31,903 --> 00:24:32,637
down through the transit hub

703
00:24:32,637 --> 00:24:35,370
and then eventually hopefully

704
00:24:36,307 --> 00:24:37,410
connecting with the runner

705
00:24:37,410 --> 00:24:40,410
Park. The smart train, smarter

706
00:24:44,515 --> 00:24:47,851
trail down to run a park. So

707
00:24:47,851 --> 00:24:48,586
here is our total projected

708
00:24:48,586 --> 00:24:49,454
build out and just want to cut

709
00:24:49,454 --> 00:24:51,756
caviar by saying this is a

710
00:24:51,756 --> 00:24:53,424
full build out realistically

711
00:24:53,424 --> 00:24:54,558
would likely not occur for

712
00:24:54,558 --> 00:24:56,260
several decades. So well,

713
00:24:56,260 --> 00:24:57,428
seems very striking at this

714
00:24:57,428 --> 00:25:00,428
point. It would be quite

715
00:25:01,980 --> 00:25:03,498
incremental in nature. And

716
00:25:04,301 --> 00:25:06,204
most of those new the 6300

717
00:25:06,204 --> 00:25:07,972
residential units would would

718
00:25:07,972 --> 00:25:08,606
result from the new mixed use

719
00:25:08,606 --> 00:25:10,208
areas along the center's

720
00:25:10,208 --> 00:25:12,577
avenue, which we envision and

721
00:25:12,577 --> 00:25:16,177
up to 40 units per acre. And

722
00:25:16,179 --> 00:25:17,148
they're also be a nearly

723
00:25:17,148 --> 00:25:17,848
3 million square feet of a new

724
00:25:17,848 --> 00:25:19,617
nonresidential construction.

725
00:25:19,617 --> 00:25:23,217
And again, that is permit from

726
00:25:23,554 --> 00:25:26,554
the mixed use and industrial

727
00:25:29,727 --> 00:25:33,327
areas of the plant area. Okay.

728
00:25:33,898 --> 00:25:35,667
So I don't think I mentioned

729
00:25:35,667 --> 00:25:38,690
U.S. The specific plan area

730
00:25:38,690 --> 00:25:40,205
severely lacking in green,

731
00:25:40,205 --> 00:25:41,172
open spaces, which is why I'm

732
00:25:41,172 --> 00:25:43,572
really excited about that

733
00:25:44,275 --> 00:25:45,343
creek pathway and the job, the

734
00:25:45,343 --> 00:25:46,100
potential to build a new

735
00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:46,678
neighborhood parks that are

736
00:25:46,678 --> 00:25:47,846
all connected by that creek

737
00:25:47,846 --> 00:25:51,446
path. Where think it will be

738
00:25:51,916 --> 00:25:53,785
quite nice. But just 2, just

739
00:25:53,785 --> 00:25:57,385
take the city park standard is

740
00:25:57,821 --> 00:25:59,290
6 acres per 1000 residents and

741
00:25:59,290 --> 00:25:59,924
the plan would include park

742
00:25:59,924 --> 00:26:01,459
space that would meet the

743
00:26:01,459 --> 00:26:03,361
standard of future residents.

744
00:26:03,361 --> 00:26:04,429
But that would likely be

745
00:26:04,429 --> 00:26:06,531
developed prior to full build

746
00:26:06,531 --> 00:26:07,532
out so existing residents

747
00:26:07,532 --> 00:26:10,135
would get to enjoy the benefit

748
00:26:10,135 --> 00:26:11,369
of the parks, provided

749
00:26:11,369 --> 00:26:13,305
specific plan and that would

750
00:26:13,305 --> 00:26:14,500
be more of the medium term

751
00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:17,605
need that is addressed and as

752
00:26:21,412 --> 00:26:24,412
opposed to be longer term.

753
00:26:25,517 --> 00:26:27,652
Next As I mentioned, we are

754
00:26:27,652 --> 00:26:28,320
continuing outreach. Our draft

755
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,254
preferred alternative. The

756
00:26:29,254 --> 00:26:29,955
survey is still open. We have

757
00:26:29,955 --> 00:26:32,355
some meetings scheduled some

758
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,759
table exciting tabling events,

759
00:26:37,940 --> 00:26:39,998
but that will continue through

760
00:26:39,998 --> 00:26:40,665
summer. And late summer early

761
00:26:40,665 --> 00:26:43,650
fall will start conducting

762
00:26:43,235 --> 00:26:44,336
some analysis of the preferred

763
00:26:44,336 --> 00:26:45,137
alternative and understanding

764
00:26:45,137 --> 00:26:45,771
the infrastructure and

765
00:26:45,771 --> 00:26:48,171
circulation needs of full

766
00:26:48,339 --> 00:26:51,939
build out. Towards the end of

767
00:26:52,770 --> 00:26:54,477
the year as Supervisor

768
00:26:55,790 --> 00:26:55,814
Nicholson mentioned, we will

769
00:26:55,814 --> 00:26:58,214
starch work shopping and

770
00:26:58,817 --> 00:27:00,886
actual specific plan and are

771
00:27:00,886 --> 00:27:03,188
with with the release of those

772
00:27:03,188 --> 00:27:04,456
things. And that will also

773
00:27:04,456 --> 00:27:05,924
include study session with the

774
00:27:05,924 --> 00:27:08,924
commission and the Council on

775
00:27:14,499 --> 00:27:15,700
those policy ideas. Yeah,

776
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:16,668
eventually looking what other

777
00:27:16,668 --> 00:27:18,504
mentions looking to adopt the

778
00:27:18,504 --> 00:27:20,572
specific plant in spring of

779
00:27:20,572 --> 00:27:21,730
2027. And that would be the

780
00:27:21,730 --> 00:27:21,673
specific plan and

781
00:27:21,673 --> 00:27:23,673
environmental impact in

782
00:27:26,878 --> 00:27:29,810
report. Okay. That's my

783
00:27:29,810 --> 00:27:29,748
presentation. The final slide

784
00:27:29,748 --> 00:27:30,448
just a few helpful qr codes

785
00:27:30,448 --> 00:27:34,480
for folks in the audience for

786
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,287
for anybody watching online on

787
00:27:35,287 --> 00:27:36,388
the far left, one is just the

788
00:27:36,388 --> 00:27:38,157
website that is that is online

789
00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:40,225
on the city's website about

790
00:27:40,225 --> 00:27:42,327
this plan. Middle One is if

791
00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:43,280
you want to sign up for e-mail

792
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,296
distribution, major milestone

793
00:27:44,296 --> 00:27:46,331
announcements and things of

794
00:27:46,331 --> 00:27:47,199
that nature. And then as I

795
00:27:47,199 --> 00:27:47,866
mentioned, preferred

796
00:27:47,866 --> 00:27:49,100
alternative survey is open

797
00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:50,469
right now. So if you want to

798
00:27:50,469 --> 00:27:51,436
take that, maybe save the

799
00:27:51,436 --> 00:27:55,360
bookmark, you can scan that qr

800
00:27:55,740 --> 00:27:56,800
code on the far right. And

801
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,810
finally, there's our e-mail

802
00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:59,511
address, the Self Sr specific

803
00:27:59,511 --> 00:28:00,679
plan. That's That's our city

804
00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:01,614
Dot org. And then we have a

805
00:28:01,614 --> 00:28:05,214
phone number on there for both

806
00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:06,351
English and Spanish speakers.

807
00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:08,190
That concludes my

808
00:28:08,190 --> 00:28:09,922
presentation. I'm happy to

809
00:28:09,922 --> 00:28:12,322
entertain questions or or

810
00:28:14,193 --> 00:28:14,860
facilitated discussion.

811
00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:15,594
>> Current Connor, Amy just

812
00:28:15,594 --> 00:28:17,229
couldn't. Gabe, thank you very

813
00:28:17,229 --> 00:28:18,531
much. This is just a huge

814
00:28:18,531 --> 00:28:19,231
project project, unusually

815
00:28:19,231 --> 00:28:20,266
important for the city. Thank

816
00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:20,932
you for bringing this back to

817
00:28:20,932 --> 00:28:23,932
us. Looking to counsel the

818
00:28:26,138 --> 00:28:27,273
questions, MR. Alvarez. And

819
00:28:27,273 --> 00:28:30,873
thank you for the that's been

820
00:28:30,909 --> 00:28:31,644
put into the outreach. And

821
00:28:31,644 --> 00:28:32,244
really, you participation from

822
00:28:32,244 --> 00:28:33,512
the community less felt

823
00:28:33,512 --> 00:28:35,512
disenfranchised for decades.

824
00:28:35,715 --> 00:28:38,183
With that being said, I know

825
00:28:38,183 --> 00:28:39,852
it's hard to gauge metrics

826
00:28:39,852 --> 00:28:40,652
when it comes to

827
00:28:40,652 --> 00:28:42,621
participation. But how have

828
00:28:42,621 --> 00:28:44,589
you personally feel about the

829
00:28:44,589 --> 00:28:46,250
civic engagement from our

830
00:28:46,250 --> 00:28:46,658
community in regards to the

831
00:28:46,658 --> 00:28:49,658
future. Santa Rosa in the

832
00:28:50,696 --> 00:28:51,864
Southwest Corridor.

833
00:28:51,864 --> 00:28:52,865
>> Yeah, that's a great.

834
00:28:52,865 --> 00:28:54,800
That's a great question. I

835
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,935
think you kind of speaks to

836
00:28:55,935 --> 00:28:56,668
the heart of And I think the

837
00:28:56,668 --> 00:29:00,268
people behind you speak to the

838
00:29:00,473 --> 00:29:01,774
fact as well right? Yeah, I

839
00:29:01,774 --> 00:29:02,775
think I think in some ways I

840
00:29:02,775 --> 00:29:03,376
will never feel like enough

841
00:29:03,376 --> 00:29:05,278
because there's always

842
00:29:05,278 --> 00:29:05,911
somebody who didn't hasn't

843
00:29:05,911 --> 00:29:08,311
heard about the planning

844
00:29:09,150 --> 00:29:09,715
process that we've been doing.

845
00:29:09,715 --> 00:29:11,784
But I do think throughout the

846
00:29:11,784 --> 00:29:12,518
employment of all the

847
00:29:12,518 --> 00:29:14,918
different strategies that I've

848
00:29:15,688 --> 00:29:16,822
discussed, you know, some some

849
00:29:16,822 --> 00:29:17,690
pretty conventional kind of

850
00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:20,900
government outreach come come

851
00:29:21,427 --> 00:29:22,610
see us at our workshop. Verse.

852
00:29:22,610 --> 00:29:24,262
Let me come eat with your

853
00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:25,465
neighborhood group or you'll

854
00:29:25,465 --> 00:29:26,165
see me at the Cinco de Mayo

855
00:29:26,165 --> 00:29:28,565
celebration or something like

856
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:29,735
that. I think throughout the

857
00:29:29,735 --> 00:29:30,436
def all the different

858
00:29:30,436 --> 00:29:31,103
approaches that we took, I

859
00:29:31,103 --> 00:29:34,103
think I think we've gotten

860
00:29:35,775 --> 00:29:37,409
better. A better response. And

861
00:29:37,409 --> 00:29:38,878
I think a normal traditional

862
00:29:38,878 --> 00:29:40,878
conventional government

863
00:29:42,715 --> 00:29:43,316
outreach effort and I have

864
00:29:43,316 --> 00:29:43,982
been PRESIDENT Some of

865
00:29:43,982 --> 00:29:44,917
meetings and I'm impressed

866
00:29:44,917 --> 00:29:46,986
with the knot of people and

867
00:29:46,986 --> 00:29:48,921
the quality of comments and

868
00:29:48,921 --> 00:29:51,324
him and ideas that are being

869
00:29:51,324 --> 00:29:51,791
shared with the law. So I do

870
00:29:51,791 --> 00:29:53,791
appreciate it.

871
00:29:54,193 --> 00:29:55,428
>> in regards to alternatives

872
00:29:55,428 --> 00:29:56,462
and hearing. But the lived

873
00:29:56,462 --> 00:29:58,862
experience from the residents

874
00:29:58,932 --> 00:29:59,766
of Southwest Santa Rosa, what

875
00:29:59,766 --> 00:30:03,366
seems to be the biggest hurdle

876
00:30:04,237 --> 00:30:05,710
that they for seeing besides

877
00:30:05,710 --> 00:30:08,671
time and and you stated a

878
00:30:08,740 --> 00:30:10,843
little bit of the equitable

879
00:30:10,843 --> 00:30:12,780
housing when it comes to the

880
00:30:12,780 --> 00:30:12,978
word affordable. Are other any

881
00:30:12,978 --> 00:30:13,680
factors that you worry? The

882
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,800
residents of Southwest Center

883
00:30:16,915 --> 00:30:18,510
is?

884
00:30:18,510 --> 00:30:20,520
>> Yeah, I think trying just a

885
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,323
bit of my presentation, but I

886
00:30:23,323 --> 00:30:24,390
think just general lack of

887
00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:25,358
infrastructure investment,

888
00:30:25,358 --> 00:30:27,227
they don't feel safe walking

889
00:30:27,227 --> 00:30:28,940
on the street. They don't feel

890
00:30:28,940 --> 00:30:30,940
comfortable writing anything

891
00:30:30,863 --> 00:30:31,998
other than a car to go

892
00:30:31,998 --> 00:30:32,665
shopping or take their kids to

893
00:30:32,665 --> 00:30:36,265
school or do other kind of

894
00:30:36,569 --> 00:30:37,303
daily need just because of

895
00:30:37,303 --> 00:30:39,572
general lack of infrastructure

896
00:30:39,572 --> 00:30:40,607
development in the area.

897
00:30:40,607 --> 00:30:41,207
>> Would you feel that? That's

898
00:30:41,207 --> 00:30:43,877
part of the reason that

899
00:30:43,877 --> 00:30:45,645
committee believe

900
00:30:45,645 --> 00:30:46,312
connectivity, 2 Saint Rose

901
00:30:46,312 --> 00:30:46,980
Avenue from Southwest Santa

902
00:30:46,980 --> 00:30:47,681
Rosa is so vital and one of

903
00:30:47,681 --> 00:30:50,681
the concerns of the community

904
00:30:53,219 --> 00:30:54,354
absolutely. And in regards to

905
00:30:54,354 --> 00:30:57,954
the way that we're looking at

906
00:30:58,124 --> 00:30:58,758
the the corridor, as you know,

907
00:30:58,758 --> 00:30:59,459
with the quarter, but the

908
00:30:59,459 --> 00:31:02,362
central housing model or the

909
00:31:02,362 --> 00:31:03,620
different alternatives. How

910
00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:05,865
will all the houses are being

911
00:31:05,865 --> 00:31:07,865
built? Currently? Influence

912
00:31:11,104 --> 00:31:12,772
our? And result, for example,

913
00:31:12,772 --> 00:31:13,406
done medal every single time

914
00:31:13,406 --> 00:31:15,741
that drive anywhere near

915
00:31:15,741 --> 00:31:17,878
Bellevue or gone done Meadow.

916
00:31:17,878 --> 00:31:19,913
I have to pay attention to the

917
00:31:19,913 --> 00:31:20,514
road as it changes the housing

918
00:31:20,514 --> 00:31:22,649
is incredible amount of

919
00:31:22,649 --> 00:31:23,216
housing that's coming in and

920
00:31:23,216 --> 00:31:25,216
infrastructure being

921
00:31:25,818 --> 00:31:26,486
introduced in the area as

922
00:31:26,486 --> 00:31:29,486
well. But I'm wondering the

923
00:31:30,657 --> 00:31:31,291
decade from now, how will this

924
00:31:31,291 --> 00:31:31,925
study incorporate the new

925
00:31:31,925 --> 00:31:34,325
housing that's now being

926
00:31:35,195 --> 00:31:37,195
built?

927
00:31:38,231 --> 00:31:38,898
>> So I think as part of the

928
00:31:38,898 --> 00:31:40,233
analysis that is associated

929
00:31:40,233 --> 00:31:43,233
with this plan, we are

930
00:31:43,236 --> 00:31:43,971
considering projects that are

931
00:31:43,971 --> 00:31:45,172
recently construction projects

932
00:31:45,172 --> 00:31:45,806
that are currently under

933
00:31:45,806 --> 00:31:47,474
construction and finally

934
00:31:47,474 --> 00:31:48,208
projects that could be

935
00:31:48,208 --> 00:31:50,208
constructed and compliance

936
00:31:51,945 --> 00:31:52,646
with those plans. So and you

937
00:31:52,646 --> 00:31:53,347
know, 10, 10 years from now,

938
00:31:53,347 --> 00:31:56,182
if there's some projects that

939
00:31:56,182 --> 00:31:57,251
have popped up, we have

940
00:31:57,251 --> 00:31:59,251
analyzed the infrastructure

941
00:31:59,452 --> 00:32:00,320
needs of those of of those

942
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,320
projects and ideally, it would

943
00:32:03,523 --> 00:32:04,658
be an improved experience.

944
00:32:04,658 --> 00:32:06,760
>> Now, this is a very loaded

945
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:07,895
question. I do not expect the

946
00:32:07,895 --> 00:32:10,895
answer, but I ponder whenever

947
00:32:12,980 --> 00:32:13,367
we speak of housing. We are

948
00:32:13,367 --> 00:32:16,302
doing our best to build

949
00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:16,937
housing in Santa Rosa, even to

950
00:32:16,937 --> 00:32:19,937
the point where some are

951
00:32:21,842 --> 00:32:22,409
saying it's too much. With the

952
00:32:22,409 --> 00:32:23,110
increase in inventory

953
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:24,778
ultimately in your opinions.

954
00:32:24,778 --> 00:32:27,748
And this is after all, just

955
00:32:27,748 --> 00:32:28,782
opinions lead to more

956
00:32:28,782 --> 00:32:30,651
affordable housing for those

957
00:32:30,651 --> 00:32:32,920
that live in the area or will

958
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,487
we do see gap that exists in

959
00:32:33,487 --> 00:32:34,188
this extremely loaded

960
00:32:34,188 --> 00:32:37,188
question? And I do understand

961
00:32:38,792 --> 00:32:39,626
that.

962
00:32:39,626 --> 00:32:42,260
>> Thank you, councilmember. I

963
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,496
believe that's an excellent

964
00:32:45,933 --> 00:32:47,340
question. Oftentimes from the

965
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:48,936
whole conversation of building

966
00:32:48,936 --> 00:32:51,380
housing. How does it affect

967
00:32:51,380 --> 00:32:51,705
the economic vitality of Santa

968
00:32:51,705 --> 00:32:52,373
Rosa? And what does it look

969
00:32:52,373 --> 00:32:53,730
like in the future? Because

970
00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:55,676
housing does a lot of things,

971
00:32:55,676 --> 00:32:56,210
right? It brings people brings

972
00:32:56,210 --> 00:32:57,778
revenue with those

973
00:32:57,778 --> 00:32:58,979
individuals. Those individuals

974
00:32:58,979 --> 00:33:00,800
have needs and we have a lot

975
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,981
of stress on the need for

976
00:33:01,981 --> 00:33:02,649
affordable housing. So really,

977
00:33:02,649 --> 00:33:04,918
what does it do to housing

978
00:33:04,918 --> 00:33:06,219
prices is often part of the

979
00:33:06,219 --> 00:33:07,955
process. I think a lot of that

980
00:33:07,955 --> 00:33:09,220
is dictated by the market is

981
00:33:09,220 --> 00:33:10,691
very difficult to determine

982
00:33:10,691 --> 00:33:11,392
what the value of prices,

983
00:33:11,392 --> 00:33:14,392
housing prices will look like

984
00:33:14,762 --> 00:33:16,831
10 to 25 years from now. I

985
00:33:16,831 --> 00:33:17,965
think when we look at the

986
00:33:17,965 --> 00:33:18,899
strategies and it really and I

987
00:33:18,899 --> 00:33:21,100
you'll hear it from some of

988
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:21,869
the public comment today. It's

989
00:33:21,869 --> 00:33:24,772
really about ensuring that we

990
00:33:24,772 --> 00:33:25,372
have the appropriate mix types

991
00:33:25,372 --> 00:33:26,400
for Ford abilities and

992
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:26,874
protecting certain housing

993
00:33:26,874 --> 00:33:27,408
types. This development comes

994
00:33:27,408 --> 00:33:29,408
in also recognizing

995
00:33:29,476 --> 00:33:30,211
development is needed. But how

996
00:33:30,211 --> 00:33:31,812
do you really create that full

997
00:33:31,812 --> 00:33:32,479
spectrum of affordability? And

998
00:33:32,479 --> 00:33:34,548
that's really what a lot of

999
00:33:34,548 --> 00:33:36,617
these plans attempt to look

1000
00:33:36,617 --> 00:33:38,185
at. It is I can't state that

1001
00:33:38,185 --> 00:33:38,986
an affordable units truly

1002
00:33:38,986 --> 00:33:40,855
affordable 20 years from now

1003
00:33:40,855 --> 00:33:42,957
because that's the value of

1004
00:33:42,957 --> 00:33:44,859
the dollar. But ensuring that

1005
00:33:44,859 --> 00:33:45,859
we have that spectrum of

1006
00:33:45,859 --> 00:33:46,527
affordability is really

1007
00:33:46,527 --> 00:33:47,228
critical to these plans in

1008
00:33:47,228 --> 00:33:49,563
understanding how we get that

1009
00:33:49,563 --> 00:33:51,365
appropriate mix tape that

1010
00:33:51,365 --> 00:33:52,633
really does drive our economic

1011
00:33:52,633 --> 00:33:53,401
development desires does make

1012
00:33:53,401 --> 00:33:54,135
sure we're taking care of our

1013
00:33:54,135 --> 00:33:56,938
community from those from that

1014
00:33:56,938 --> 00:33:58,206
variety of spectrums. And I

1015
00:33:58,206 --> 00:33:59,807
think what you see today from

1016
00:33:59,807 --> 00:34:01,876
the preferred alternative is a

1017
00:34:01,876 --> 00:34:02,743
blending of those various

1018
00:34:02,743 --> 00:34:04,812
types in attempt to try to

1019
00:34:04,812 --> 00:34:05,546
meet that, to understand where

1020
00:34:05,546 --> 00:34:06,214
the densities makes sense from

1021
00:34:06,214 --> 00:34:07,648
a transportation standpoint

1022
00:34:07,648 --> 00:34:09,717
from an economic development

1023
00:34:09,717 --> 00:34:10,384
standpoint, also understand,

1024
00:34:10,384 --> 00:34:11,519
and this will be a future

1025
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:13,454
conversation from the Counter

1026
00:34:13,454 --> 00:34:14,155
Council where we need to

1027
00:34:14,155 --> 00:34:14,722
protect that existing housing

1028
00:34:14,722 --> 00:34:15,389
stock because that is

1029
00:34:15,389 --> 00:34:16,657
important to the community

1030
00:34:16,657 --> 00:34:18,657
from an affordability

1031
00:34:18,659 --> 00:34:19,761
standpoint. So very critical

1032
00:34:19,761 --> 00:34:20,495
part of the plan, but very

1033
00:34:20,495 --> 00:34:21,162
difficult to determine at

1034
00:34:21,162 --> 00:34:22,930
total dollar amount of what

1035
00:34:22,930 --> 00:34:24,865
that looks like in the future.

1036
00:34:24,865 --> 00:34:25,600
And thank you for taking a

1037
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,335
loaded question. And this was

1038
00:34:27,335 --> 00:34:27,835
it just gives greatly

1039
00:34:27,835 --> 00:34:28,536
appreciated.

1040
00:34:28,536 --> 00:34:30,904
>> And I just asked you look

1041
00:34:30,904 --> 00:34:31,606
towards the future. The

1042
00:34:31,606 --> 00:34:33,410
following question is for you

1043
00:34:33,410 --> 00:34:34,909
just look in the rearview

1044
00:34:34,909 --> 00:34:35,476
mirror and the question is

1045
00:34:35,476 --> 00:34:38,112
when it comes to the

1046
00:34:38,112 --> 00:34:38,813
infrastructure that we

1047
00:34:38,813 --> 00:34:41,282
currently have, you know, use

1048
00:34:41,282 --> 00:34:43,284
Kern as an example with this

1049
00:34:43,284 --> 00:34:44,180
lack of sidewalks, even in

1050
00:34:44,180 --> 00:34:46,418
from Southwest Community Park,

1051
00:34:46,554 --> 00:34:50,754
where we just all a light near

1052
00:34:50,858 --> 00:34:52,360
for Burbank Avenue. Could you

1053
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,270
explain why there aren't

1054
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:56,270
sidewalks to this point and

1055
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:56,965
ultimately his responsibility.

1056
00:34:56,965 --> 00:34:59,670
It is an understanding that we

1057
00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:59,700
had with the developers of of

1058
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:02,100
yesterday compared to us

1059
00:35:05,730 --> 00:35:06,340
moving forward.

1060
00:35:06,340 --> 00:35:08,743
>> Yes, that that is another

1061
00:35:08,743 --> 00:35:09,477
excellent point. Typically the

1062
00:35:09,477 --> 00:35:11,877
expansion of infrastructure is

1063
00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:14,282
often done with development

1064
00:35:14,282 --> 00:35:15,383
and sidewalk is a really good

1065
00:35:15,383 --> 00:35:16,618
example that most of the

1066
00:35:16,618 --> 00:35:17,285
sidewalks that we have in

1067
00:35:17,285 --> 00:35:18,787
Santa Rosa were a part of a

1068
00:35:18,787 --> 00:35:20,688
development. Was the

1069
00:35:20,688 --> 00:35:21,389
developers responsibility.

1070
00:35:21,389 --> 00:35:21,956
Now, the problem that creates

1071
00:35:21,956 --> 00:35:23,758
is how do you create

1072
00:35:23,758 --> 00:35:26,270
continuity through that side?

1073
00:35:26,270 --> 00:35:27,896
Way in for sidewalk?

1074
00:35:27,896 --> 00:35:28,596
Infrastructure because there's

1075
00:35:28,596 --> 00:35:29,530
often gaps where development

1076
00:35:29,530 --> 00:35:32,530
is not occurring or developers

1077
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:33,802
not required to do so. So

1078
00:35:33,802 --> 00:35:35,302
really one of the focuses that

1079
00:35:35,302 --> 00:35:36,371
we have placed through the

1080
00:35:36,371 --> 00:35:37,500
lens that we pondella Mont

1081
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:37,639
applications is how do we

1082
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:39,807
ensure that closing that

1083
00:35:39,807 --> 00:35:40,541
sidewalk? Connectivity gap?

1084
00:35:40,541 --> 00:35:41,243
There is a legal next. This is

1085
00:35:41,243 --> 00:35:44,912
what the city can ask for is

1086
00:35:44,912 --> 00:35:45,513
part of developments. So

1087
00:35:45,513 --> 00:35:46,214
sometimes that creates

1088
00:35:46,214 --> 00:35:47,882
challenges and increase that

1089
00:35:47,882 --> 00:35:49,170
cap and infrastructure. I

1090
00:35:49,170 --> 00:35:49,918
think what is a really

1091
00:35:49,918 --> 00:35:52,787
important point to a specific

1092
00:35:52,787 --> 00:35:54,889
plan because in many ways it

1093
00:35:54,889 --> 00:35:55,590
is aspirational. It develops a

1094
00:35:55,590 --> 00:35:57,990
set of infrastructure needed

1095
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,940
to support full density. It

1096
00:35:59,940 --> 00:36:00,996
doesn't always factor into the

1097
00:36:00,996 --> 00:36:02,996
city's current fiscal

1098
00:36:03,310 --> 00:36:04,900
constraints. So when we

1099
00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:05,800
determined really a cost of

1100
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,468
service analysis or a cost to

1101
00:36:06,468 --> 00:36:10,680
the plan, which is a piece

1102
00:36:10,272 --> 00:36:11,173
that will evolve it really

1103
00:36:11,173 --> 00:36:12,340
attempts to understand how you

1104
00:36:12,340 --> 00:36:13,275
come up with creative funding

1105
00:36:13,275 --> 00:36:15,430
solutions that help to close

1106
00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:16,244
the gap because you can't

1107
00:36:16,244 --> 00:36:17,512
completely rely on development

1108
00:36:17,512 --> 00:36:18,113
because development does occur

1109
00:36:18,113 --> 00:36:20,181
in various areas and it

1110
00:36:20,181 --> 00:36:22,183
doesn't necessarily go in a

1111
00:36:22,183 --> 00:36:23,184
logical pattern. So as we

1112
00:36:23,184 --> 00:36:23,852
progress through this and

1113
00:36:23,852 --> 00:36:26,154
understand those really in

1114
00:36:26,154 --> 00:36:27,256
critical points to the

1115
00:36:27,256 --> 00:36:28,357
community, I think it

1116
00:36:28,357 --> 00:36:30,258
important pieces injecting

1117
00:36:30,258 --> 00:36:30,959
some creative revenue

1118
00:36:30,959 --> 00:36:31,726
strategies where we can look

1119
00:36:31,726 --> 00:36:32,327
at this plan area to

1120
00:36:32,327 --> 00:36:33,862
understand how we could

1121
00:36:33,862 --> 00:36:35,797
potentially address that in

1122
00:36:35,797 --> 00:36:36,531
the future. That always, that

1123
00:36:36,531 --> 00:36:38,266
hasn't always been factored in

1124
00:36:38,266 --> 00:36:40,235
previous plans. Becomes very

1125
00:36:40,235 --> 00:36:41,360
aspirational. And the reality

1126
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:41,703
is, is the appropriate funding

1127
00:36:41,703 --> 00:36:44,390
is not necessarily there to

1128
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:46,908
close those gaps. But this is

1129
00:36:46,908 --> 00:36:47,876
a good opportunity to take

1130
00:36:47,876 --> 00:36:48,543
those challenges that we know

1131
00:36:48,543 --> 00:36:49,211
of and try to figure out a

1132
00:36:49,211 --> 00:36:51,611
better model moving forward

1133
00:36:52,647 --> 00:36:56,247
that can prevent And just can

1134
00:36:56,351 --> 00:36:58,119
minor of Burbank Avenue.

1135
00:36:58,119 --> 00:36:59,210
>> And where there's a bit

1136
00:36:59,210 --> 00:36:59,721
where this is not develop

1137
00:36:59,721 --> 00:37:01,560
planning and residential and

1138
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,570
up and down the poured over

1139
00:37:02,570 --> 00:37:04,590
Burbank Avenue and yet side of

1140
00:37:04,590 --> 00:37:04,693
the street has sidewalks and

1141
00:37:04,693 --> 00:37:08,293
even on that side of the

1142
00:37:09,531 --> 00:37:12,531
street, is there anything that

1143
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:14,502
residents can advocate for in

1144
00:37:14,502 --> 00:37:15,204
ordered have those sidewalks

1145
00:37:15,204 --> 00:37:17,604
place, although it's already

1146
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,377
been developed.

1147
00:37:21,377 --> 00:37:23,212
>> Yes, usually. And obviously

1148
00:37:23,212 --> 00:37:24,213
this is getting into Director

1149
00:37:24,213 --> 00:37:25,314
Hennessy's arena on how those

1150
00:37:25,314 --> 00:37:25,981
types of projects are funded.

1151
00:37:25,981 --> 00:37:29,385
So I'll talk about that. It

1152
00:37:29,385 --> 00:37:30,218
really at a high level that's

1153
00:37:30,218 --> 00:37:32,387
very much some of the

1154
00:37:32,387 --> 00:37:33,550
challenges, right? Sidewalk is

1155
00:37:33,550 --> 00:37:33,789
the private property owners

1156
00:37:33,789 --> 00:37:35,230
spawn civility, the expansion,

1157
00:37:35,230 --> 00:37:36,792
the sidewalk comes in through

1158
00:37:36,792 --> 00:37:37,493
development. When we look at

1159
00:37:37,493 --> 00:37:39,895
concepts such as safe routes

1160
00:37:39,895 --> 00:37:40,529
to schools or other

1161
00:37:40,529 --> 00:37:41,597
initiatives where they've

1162
00:37:41,597 --> 00:37:42,298
looked at connectivity in

1163
00:37:42,298 --> 00:37:44,698
providing safe routes through

1164
00:37:45,401 --> 00:37:46,101
a pedestrian path. Those

1165
00:37:46,101 --> 00:37:48,437
usually require other funding

1166
00:37:48,437 --> 00:37:49,604
sources to close those gaps. I

1167
00:37:49,604 --> 00:37:52,441
know much of the discussion

1168
00:37:52,441 --> 00:37:52,941
about Rosalynn was gaps and

1169
00:37:52,941 --> 00:37:53,642
infrastructure in

1170
00:37:53,642 --> 00:37:54,777
understanding where sidewalk

1171
00:37:54,777 --> 00:37:55,711
is and where you where it is

1172
00:37:55,711 --> 00:37:56,378
and how do you focus on

1173
00:37:56,378 --> 00:37:57,790
creating that connectivity?

1174
00:37:57,790 --> 00:38:00,790
And where is the appropriate

1175
00:38:00,349 --> 00:38:01,383
funding source for that? So I

1176
00:38:01,383 --> 00:38:02,840
think it's always it's always

1177
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,520
interesting when development

1178
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:03,753
isn't occurring because that

1179
00:38:03,753 --> 00:38:04,420
is based on what the economy

1180
00:38:04,420 --> 00:38:06,956
is doing. We do go through

1181
00:38:06,956 --> 00:38:07,623
peaks and valleys, but the

1182
00:38:07,623 --> 00:38:09,250
need in the community still

1183
00:38:09,250 --> 00:38:10,960
exists in the Valley of

1184
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,228
development. And how do we

1185
00:38:12,228 --> 00:38:14,196
understand how that's

1186
00:38:14,196 --> 00:38:15,831
prioritized over other capital

1187
00:38:15,831 --> 00:38:16,532
looks projects and the

1188
00:38:16,532 --> 00:38:17,233
expenditures associated with

1189
00:38:17,233 --> 00:38:20,169
that that are needed to fund

1190
00:38:20,169 --> 00:38:21,300
some of these. But that really

1191
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:21,704
becomes part of the capital

1192
00:38:21,704 --> 00:38:24,104
project mix and understanding

1193
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,642
where those come in. As I

1194
00:38:26,642 --> 00:38:27,777
mentioned in the previous

1195
00:38:27,777 --> 00:38:28,778
response, understanding how

1196
00:38:28,778 --> 00:38:29,845
much can be placed on

1197
00:38:29,845 --> 00:38:31,180
development in pushing further

1198
00:38:31,180 --> 00:38:31,881
for that is a critical piece

1199
00:38:31,881 --> 00:38:33,482
to to make sure that that we

1200
00:38:33,482 --> 00:38:35,618
don't have to piecemeal that

1201
00:38:35,618 --> 00:38:37,152
together. But it is a bit of a

1202
00:38:37,152 --> 00:38:37,853
challenge with those

1203
00:38:37,853 --> 00:38:38,554
understanding the appropriate

1204
00:38:38,554 --> 00:38:40,954
funding strategy for closing

1205
00:38:42,258 --> 00:38:43,240
the sidewalk apps.

1206
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:43,726
>> And before I get the mic

1207
00:38:43,726 --> 00:38:45,161
back where they want to thank

1208
00:38:45,161 --> 00:38:48,761
both our city staff and my

1209
00:38:49,999 --> 00:38:50,665
colleagues for the effort to.

1210
00:38:50,665 --> 00:38:53,650
Install the sidewalk stall

1211
00:38:53,269 --> 00:38:54,737
high visibility crosswalk in

1212
00:38:54,737 --> 00:38:55,904
front of group from McMahon

1213
00:38:55,904 --> 00:38:57,774
and Burbank and what has been

1214
00:38:57,774 --> 00:38:58,841
done in that intersection

1215
00:38:58,841 --> 00:38:59,542
there is greatly appreciate by

1216
00:38:59,542 --> 00:39:01,778
many in the community. And I

1217
00:39:01,778 --> 00:39:02,578
definitely want to give a pass

1218
00:39:02,578 --> 00:39:05,140
to those that I know have so

1219
00:39:05,140 --> 00:39:05,715
much to do with it, which is

1220
00:39:05,715 --> 00:39:09,915
are so many more than I could

1221
00:39:14,490 --> 00:39:17,693
Thank you. Thank you. MISS Of

1222
00:39:17,693 --> 00:39:19,693
Thank you, Mayor.

1223
00:39:21,731 --> 00:39:22,398
>> Thank you so much for the I

1224
00:39:22,398 --> 00:39:25,998
think first, I just want to

1225
00:39:27,302 --> 00:39:28,370
say that I the combination of

1226
00:39:28,370 --> 00:39:31,370
the the alternatives of wanted

1227
00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:31,741
to, you know, I know bringing

1228
00:39:31,741 --> 00:39:34,110
it back from the last time

1229
00:39:34,110 --> 00:39:34,811
that you were here. I really

1230
00:39:34,811 --> 00:39:37,811
like the direction that we're

1231
00:39:38,381 --> 00:39:39,115
going in now. Because it

1232
00:39:39,115 --> 00:39:39,816
encompasses so many things, I

1233
00:39:39,816 --> 00:39:42,816
think that's that's really a

1234
00:39:43,453 --> 00:39:46,453
good thing. Couple things that

1235
00:39:48,157 --> 00:39:49,358
I'm concerned about that.

1236
00:39:49,358 --> 00:39:52,262
>> know in the beginning it,

1237
00:39:52,262 --> 00:39:52,896
you know, it was mentioned

1238
00:39:52,896 --> 00:39:54,564
that some things weren't

1239
00:39:54,564 --> 00:39:54,898
necessarily going to talk

1240
00:39:54,898 --> 00:39:56,898
about.

1241
00:39:57,834 --> 00:39:59,602
>> Today that we're in a

1242
00:39:59,602 --> 00:40:03,600
central part of this plan. I

1243
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:03,740
guess, is the the issues of

1244
00:40:03,740 --> 00:40:05,708
displacement and affordability

1245
00:40:05,708 --> 00:40:07,611
and mobile home parks.

1246
00:40:07,611 --> 00:40:10,110
Annexation, all those things,

1247
00:40:12,549 --> 00:40:16,149
which to me is everything. So

1248
00:40:17,186 --> 00:40:17,921
I said, I just want to ask. In

1249
00:40:17,921 --> 00:40:18,622
terms of displacement and what

1250
00:40:18,622 --> 00:40:21,591
what folks, I think what I'm

1251
00:40:21,591 --> 00:40:22,225
hearing from the community are

1252
00:40:22,225 --> 00:40:24,426
concerned about is being

1253
00:40:24,426 --> 00:40:26,329
pushed out of their homes.

1254
00:40:26,329 --> 00:40:28,310
Once this development, which

1255
00:40:28,310 --> 00:40:28,698
is the great thing. But

1256
00:40:28,698 --> 00:40:31,368
there's a fine line between

1257
00:40:31,368 --> 00:40:32,268
improvements and pushing

1258
00:40:32,268 --> 00:40:35,905
people out as was done in San

1259
00:40:35,905 --> 00:40:37,774
Francisco, quite frankly. So I

1260
00:40:37,774 --> 00:40:38,642
don't want to see that happen,

1261
00:40:38,642 --> 00:40:39,276
especially to this particular

1262
00:40:39,276 --> 00:40:42,876
area, which I think is a

1263
00:40:42,979 --> 00:40:45,548
really special area. So what

1264
00:40:45,548 --> 00:40:46,282
I'm wondering is what kind of

1265
00:40:46,282 --> 00:40:46,982
protections do we have? And we

1266
00:40:46,982 --> 00:40:48,584
can talk about we're going to

1267
00:40:48,584 --> 00:40:50,287
fight against displacement.

1268
00:40:50,287 --> 00:40:53,900
But what kind of protections

1269
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:55,920
do the residents really have

1270
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,560
to? To the extent that it can

1271
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,327
ensure that they will not be

1272
00:40:57,327 --> 00:40:59,327
displaced from this

1273
00:41:04,635 --> 00:41:06,603
development in the long term.

1274
00:41:06,603 --> 00:41:09,603
Thank you for that. The

1275
00:41:10,730 --> 00:41:12,730
question councilmember. I

1276
00:41:14,911 --> 00:41:15,212
would start the limited areas

1277
00:41:15,212 --> 00:41:16,380
where

1278
00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:17,130
>> we are proposing land use

1279
00:41:17,130 --> 00:41:19,130
changes within preferred

1280
00:41:25,522 --> 00:41:26,223
alternative. There are areas

1281
00:41:26,223 --> 00:41:28,250
intended or envision for

1282
00:41:28,250 --> 00:41:30,260
higher density housing and

1283
00:41:30,260 --> 00:41:32,196
mixed use and then serve the

1284
00:41:32,196 --> 00:41:34,298
lower spectrum of residential

1285
00:41:34,298 --> 00:41:35,732
densities primarily within

1286
00:41:35,732 --> 00:41:37,835
areas that do not contain any

1287
00:41:37,835 --> 00:41:40,835
residents at all. Right now,

1288
00:41:41,710 --> 00:41:42,940
these are parcels that are

1289
00:41:42,940 --> 00:41:45,940
used for unlike commercial or

1290
00:41:45,976 --> 00:41:48,976
industrial uses or they are

1291
00:41:49,113 --> 00:41:51,513
vacant. And so Ed.

1292
00:41:53,550 --> 00:41:54,752
>> We have made

1293
00:41:54,752 --> 00:41:55,686
>> real attempt are focused. I

1294
00:41:55,686 --> 00:41:56,687
understand where existing

1295
00:41:56,687 --> 00:41:58,880
residents are located and

1296
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:58,756
where land-use changes are

1297
00:41:58,756 --> 00:42:01,125
suggested are proposed as a

1298
00:42:01,125 --> 00:42:04,125
part of this process. Another

1299
00:42:06,563 --> 00:42:07,331
piece I would add is that.

1300
00:42:07,331 --> 00:42:09,331
>> The policies related

1301
00:42:09,366 --> 00:42:11,168
displacement or tenant

1302
00:42:11,168 --> 00:42:12,503
protections. Those can be

1303
00:42:12,503 --> 00:42:15,500
included as part of the

1304
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:16,390
specific plan as we move into

1305
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:16,740
policy development. So my

1306
00:42:16,740 --> 00:42:19,140
comments previously were just

1307
00:42:20,811 --> 00:42:22,579
to say that we hope to hear

1308
00:42:22,579 --> 00:42:24,548
the council's feedback on the

1309
00:42:24,548 --> 00:42:26,716
land use in circulation

1310
00:42:26,716 --> 00:42:27,684
changes today. But of course,

1311
00:42:27,684 --> 00:42:28,385
any feedback on policy

1312
00:42:28,385 --> 00:42:31,385
direction as we move forward

1313
00:42:32,923 --> 00:42:33,791
is also really important.

1314
00:42:33,791 --> 00:42:37,391
Great. Thank That's And I hear

1315
00:42:37,528 --> 00:42:38,162
what you're saying and one

1316
00:42:38,162 --> 00:42:38,929
thing to that, I will ask

1317
00:42:38,929 --> 00:42:40,498
about the traffic study. I

1318
00:42:40,498 --> 00:42:44,980
notice that it's it's not out

1319
00:42:44,267 --> 00:42:46,300
yet. The traffic study. Okay.

1320
00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:46,637
Will that go to the planning

1321
00:42:46,637 --> 00:42:47,605
Commission first and then

1322
00:42:47,605 --> 00:42:51,205
maybe we'll see it later or.

1323
00:42:52,376 --> 00:42:55,376
>> What's the plan for that?

1324
00:42:57,782 --> 00:42:59,517
>> So once we've gotten the

1325
00:42:59,517 --> 00:43:00,384
feedback from the community

1326
00:43:00,384 --> 00:43:01,850
and from various boards and

1327
00:43:01,850 --> 00:43:02,653
commissions in the council on

1328
00:43:02,653 --> 00:43:05,530
the Board of Supervisors.

1329
00:43:05,356 --> 00:43:07,756
>> We'll take all that

1330
00:43:07,925 --> 00:43:10,610
feedback and prepare a final

1331
00:43:10,610 --> 00:43:11,729
preferred alternative and then

1332
00:43:11,729 --> 00:43:12,964
will performed the traffic

1333
00:43:12,964 --> 00:43:14,964
analysis and infrastructure

1334
00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:17,401
analysis. I don't believe that

1335
00:43:17,401 --> 00:43:19,637
study session specifically on

1336
00:43:19,637 --> 00:43:20,938
that portion, but it will made

1337
00:43:20,938 --> 00:43:22,940
publicly available and we'll

1338
00:43:22,940 --> 00:43:23,975
do continue conversations

1339
00:43:23,975 --> 00:43:26,975
about policies and to a

1340
00:43:27,278 --> 00:43:28,612
specific part itself.

1341
00:43:28,612 --> 00:43:31,150
>> Okay. Thank you. I was just

1342
00:43:31,150 --> 00:43:31,716
concerned about it because we

1343
00:43:31,716 --> 00:43:32,350
know we know currently center

1344
00:43:32,350 --> 00:43:35,119
is avenue was used as an

1345
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:35,819
alternative to want to one.

1346
00:43:35,819 --> 00:43:38,156
And in high traffic peaked at

1347
00:43:38,156 --> 00:43:40,792
times a day. So I know the

1348
00:43:40,792 --> 00:43:41,893
idea is that we're going to

1349
00:43:41,893 --> 00:43:43,294
have that or circulation

1350
00:43:43,294 --> 00:43:44,194
multi-modal all that stuff.

1351
00:43:44,194 --> 00:43:47,194
Wonderful. But I still have

1352
00:43:49,233 --> 00:43:51,233
concerns. 10 years out, 20

1353
00:43:51,302 --> 00:43:53,437
years out long that's going to

1354
00:43:53,437 --> 00:43:56,700
look like for the community at

1355
00:43:56,700 --> 00:43:58,309
at that point, once the

1356
00:43:58,309 --> 00:44:00,211
though, all those 6,000 rather

1357
00:44:00,211 --> 00:44:00,878
homes get built, you know

1358
00:44:00,878 --> 00:44:03,140
what, what that traffic is

1359
00:44:03,140 --> 00:44:03,815
going to look like. And you

1360
00:44:03,815 --> 00:44:04,649
see that all just yeah. Just

1361
00:44:04,649 --> 00:44:07,649
add very quickly to what

1362
00:44:10,355 --> 00:44:11,722
Connor was mentioning. So

1363
00:44:11,722 --> 00:44:14,722
there's a couple pieces next

1364
00:44:14,792 --> 00:44:15,660
steps that I think are really

1365
00:44:15,660 --> 00:44:16,427
important for.

1366
00:44:16,427 --> 00:44:17,950
>> The community and our

1367
00:44:17,950 --> 00:44:19,950
decision makers, including

1368
00:44:19,464 --> 00:44:21,265
both Planning Commission and

1369
00:44:21,265 --> 00:44:22,967
the council. So Amy mentioned

1370
00:44:22,967 --> 00:44:23,802
earlier, we will be bringing a

1371
00:44:23,802 --> 00:44:26,802
study session forward. Once we

1372
00:44:27,972 --> 00:44:28,940
have a draft. But the draft

1373
00:44:28,940 --> 00:44:30,942
policies ready, which is that

1374
00:44:30,942 --> 00:44:32,100
the draft actual specific plan

1375
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:32,944
itself and it will include all

1376
00:44:32,944 --> 00:44:33,812
the policies and we will bring

1377
00:44:33,812 --> 00:44:34,512
it forward to both the

1378
00:44:34,512 --> 00:44:37,512
commission and the council in

1379
00:44:38,490 --> 00:44:40,952
a study session with a focus

1380
00:44:40,952 --> 00:44:43,154
on. Did we get it right with

1381
00:44:43,154 --> 00:44:43,955
looking at addressing some of

1382
00:44:43,955 --> 00:44:44,656
the protections and the

1383
00:44:44,656 --> 00:44:46,824
displacement issues that have

1384
00:44:46,824 --> 00:44:48,793
been brought forward. So there

1385
00:44:48,793 --> 00:44:50,428
will be that process in

1386
00:44:50,428 --> 00:44:51,129
addition to additional

1387
00:44:51,129 --> 00:44:53,298
outreach and a similar manner

1388
00:44:53,298 --> 00:44:56,298
as what Connor Mission we've

1389
00:44:56,401 --> 00:44:59,401
already done to the community,

1390
00:44:59,404 --> 00:45:01,306
but specific to the

1391
00:45:01,306 --> 00:45:02,306
evaluation. That will be part

1392
00:45:02,306 --> 00:45:04,208
of the draft er that will come

1393
00:45:04,208 --> 00:45:05,376
as a public hearing to the

1394
00:45:05,376 --> 00:45:07,212
Planning Commission. So it

1395
00:45:07,212 --> 00:45:09,314
will be out for the public for

1396
00:45:09,314 --> 00:45:10,147
review as well as the planning

1397
00:45:10,147 --> 00:45:11,216
Commission. Ultimately, it

1398
00:45:11,216 --> 00:45:13,618
will come to the council as

1399
00:45:13,618 --> 00:45:14,686
part of the final er and

1400
00:45:14,686 --> 00:45:15,353
specific plan. So you'll have

1401
00:45:15,353 --> 00:45:19,553
a chance to look at at that

1402
00:45:20,758 --> 00:45:23,758
point as well. Thank you.

1403
00:45:23,795 --> 00:45:24,562
>> Let's see. I had just one

1404
00:45:24,562 --> 00:45:25,297
other question.

1405
00:45:25,297 --> 00:45:28,897
>> Okay. So in it with respect

1406
00:45:29,501 --> 00:45:31,169
to mobile home parks

1407
00:45:31,169 --> 00:45:31,937
>> they are part of this plan,

1408
00:45:31,937 --> 00:45:33,805
right? And I know that we're

1409
00:45:33,805 --> 00:45:35,841
talking about the county and

1410
00:45:35,841 --> 00:45:36,541
city. My understanding is

1411
00:45:36,541 --> 00:45:38,941
there's about 14 mobile home

1412
00:45:40,645 --> 00:45:41,313
parks in this. 4 of which are

1413
00:45:41,313 --> 00:45:42,114
in the city. And I I passed

1414
00:45:42,114 --> 00:45:45,714
them every day when I come

1415
00:45:47,486 --> 00:45:48,185
home

1416
00:45:48,185 --> 00:45:48,753
>> you know, looking at that.

1417
00:45:48,753 --> 00:45:49,587
That's why I'm really

1418
00:45:49,587 --> 00:45:51,587
concerned about displacement.

1419
00:45:51,657 --> 00:45:54,657
I know that to my

1420
00:45:56,495 --> 00:45:57,162
understanding is the counties

1421
00:45:57,162 --> 00:45:59,665
policy is so much stronger

1422
00:45:59,665 --> 00:46:01,934
than ours. And I know that's

1423
00:46:01,934 --> 00:46:02,600
what I've heard. I haven't

1424
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,600
looked at myself, but it's

1425
00:46:05,637 --> 00:46:06,338
what I've heard. So I'm

1426
00:46:06,338 --> 00:46:07,500
wondering because I know the

1427
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:08,506
last time that you are all

1428
00:46:08,506 --> 00:46:09,141
here and we were talking about

1429
00:46:09,141 --> 00:46:12,741
how you are going to work

1430
00:46:12,978 --> 00:46:15,978
together with the county. Is

1431
00:46:16,140 --> 00:46:16,715
there some room for you all to

1432
00:46:16,715 --> 00:46:17,482
look at their policy and see

1433
00:46:17,482 --> 00:46:20,482
if we can strengthen our

1434
00:46:21,286 --> 00:46:21,986
policy to match that if not

1435
00:46:21,986 --> 00:46:23,522
all of you, I would. I would

1436
00:46:23,522 --> 00:46:25,570
hope that both the county, the

1437
00:46:25,570 --> 00:46:25,991
city would look at making them

1438
00:46:25,991 --> 00:46:28,991
even stronger what we don't

1439
00:46:30,162 --> 00:46:32,898
want is for folks to be.

1440
00:46:32,898 --> 00:46:33,565
Displaced and or displaced

1441
00:46:33,565 --> 00:46:37,165
rather. And and for me that

1442
00:46:37,268 --> 00:46:38,269
that is really important. So

1443
00:46:38,269 --> 00:46:38,971
I'm just wondering, you know

1444
00:46:38,971 --> 00:46:40,873
what, what do you foresee in

1445
00:46:40,873 --> 00:46:41,540
terms of that? And when you're

1446
00:46:41,540 --> 00:46:43,940
putting together the final

1447
00:46:47,145 --> 00:46:50,745
plan? Thank you for the very

1448
00:46:51,490 --> 00:46:52,217
important question. But

1449
00:46:52,217 --> 00:46:54,286
tomorrow we actually have a

1450
00:46:54,286 --> 00:46:55,754
meeting with city and county

1451
00:46:55,754 --> 00:46:56,388
staffs.

1452
00:46:56,388 --> 00:46:58,788
>> Specifically to it to

1453
00:46:59,858 --> 00:47:00,692
discuss housing policies as we

1454
00:47:00,692 --> 00:47:03,195
move forward through this Part

1455
00:47:03,195 --> 00:47:05,931
of that conversation, we'll be

1456
00:47:05,931 --> 00:47:06,832
looking at the existing

1457
00:47:06,832 --> 00:47:07,599
protections that are in place

1458
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:09,368
within the city and how those

1459
00:47:09,368 --> 00:47:11,437
differ from what the county

1460
00:47:11,437 --> 00:47:13,639
has and that can help to

1461
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:14,673
inform how we develop policies

1462
00:47:14,673 --> 00:47:17,476
as we move forward in the

1463
00:47:17,476 --> 00:47:19,876
specific plan process. So

1464
00:47:22,715 --> 00:47:25,851
we're very mindful of. The the

1465
00:47:25,851 --> 00:47:26,552
layers jurisdiction and

1466
00:47:26,552 --> 00:47:27,853
different staffer involved in

1467
00:47:27,853 --> 00:47:28,554
in these protections and and

1468
00:47:28,554 --> 00:47:31,357
implementing them and want to

1469
00:47:31,357 --> 00:47:34,600
ensure that. We are addressing

1470
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,290
the comments that we hear and

1471
00:47:37,290 --> 00:47:38,297
that we are truly

1472
00:47:38,297 --> 00:47:40,165
understanding what's happening

1473
00:47:40,165 --> 00:47:40,833
now then what can be done in

1474
00:47:40,833 --> 00:47:44,337
the future as a part of the

1475
00:47:44,337 --> 00:47:45,904
specific plan. And I just have

1476
00:47:45,904 --> 00:47:48,541
one more question. It's around

1477
00:47:48,541 --> 00:47:50,541
the 6300.

1478
00:47:53,780 --> 00:47:54,280
>> a future housing I I am not

1479
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:54,981
against market housing. Want

1480
00:47:54,981 --> 00:47:55,514
to be really clear about the

1481
00:47:55,514 --> 00:47:57,914
exit think that was

1482
00:47:58,184 --> 00:48:01,354
misunderstood. I am. I am for

1483
00:48:01,354 --> 00:48:03,222
a diversity of different

1484
00:48:03,222 --> 00:48:04,289
housing types. I really want

1485
00:48:04,289 --> 00:48:05,240
to see more affordable

1486
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:08,240
housing, not just market rate.

1487
00:48:08,394 --> 00:48:09,262
And I know the way things are

1488
00:48:09,262 --> 00:48:09,962
set up now that what ends up

1489
00:48:09,962 --> 00:48:12,532
happening more 9 times out of

1490
00:48:12,532 --> 00:48:13,198
10. I'm just going to say is

1491
00:48:13,198 --> 00:48:16,798
that we end up with market

1492
00:48:17,336 --> 00:48:20,936
rate housing and I think, you

1493
00:48:22,542 --> 00:48:23,309
know, when I look at a couple

1494
00:48:23,309 --> 00:48:24,510
of last housing projects that

1495
00:48:24,510 --> 00:48:27,510
were done that were actually

1496
00:48:29,248 --> 00:48:29,948
affordable and and how. From

1497
00:48:29,948 --> 00:48:30,717
my understanding how quickly

1498
00:48:30,717 --> 00:48:31,451
they were filled versus the

1499
00:48:31,451 --> 00:48:33,860
market rate, which doesn't get

1500
00:48:33,860 --> 00:48:36,860
feel very quickly. I think

1501
00:48:36,556 --> 00:48:39,492
it's a question of what we

1502
00:48:39,492 --> 00:48:41,226
need versus what we want. I

1503
00:48:41,226 --> 00:48:41,961
know we want nice. Nice

1504
00:48:41,961 --> 00:48:45,561
looking housing. I do, I think

1505
00:48:47,433 --> 00:48:48,340
it all should be nice on him.

1506
00:48:48,340 --> 00:48:49,869
C is as a person that I

1507
00:48:49,869 --> 00:48:51,869
consider myself low-income.

1508
00:48:54,807 --> 00:48:56,142
Not poor, but low-income. And.

1509
00:48:56,142 --> 00:48:56,908
Much of my my district is that

1510
00:48:56,908 --> 00:49:00,380
in my district isn't the only

1511
00:49:00,380 --> 00:49:01,470
one and I I so I see what the

1512
00:49:01,470 --> 00:49:04,647
needs are more than what we

1513
00:49:06,118 --> 00:49:06,819
would what we want. And so

1514
00:49:06,819 --> 00:49:07,553
just thinking about that even

1515
00:49:07,553 --> 00:49:08,154
the number the number of folks

1516
00:49:08,154 --> 00:49:10,554
that are considered low

1517
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:14,194
income. That try fill those

1518
00:49:14,194 --> 00:49:16,280
needs as well. Not just

1519
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,263
marketing and I'm sorry that

1520
00:49:17,263 --> 00:49:18,300
it question. But I guess my

1521
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:21,300
question of at thinking about

1522
00:49:23,236 --> 00:49:23,970
that is how can we promote

1523
00:49:23,970 --> 00:49:24,604
that? As we're looking for

1524
00:49:24,604 --> 00:49:27,604
folks to develop of this

1525
00:49:28,507 --> 00:49:29,576
house. Beyond the 50% that we

1526
00:49:29,576 --> 00:49:33,176
have right now, it's I don't

1527
00:49:33,947 --> 00:49:37,160
think is enough and the low

1528
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,850
what folks, I always tell me

1529
00:49:39,850 --> 00:49:39,752
too low fees that are charged,

1530
00:49:39,752 --> 00:49:43,952
if you choose not to do any

1531
00:49:45,224 --> 00:49:47,624
affordable housing. Thank you

1532
00:49:48,194 --> 00:49:49,929
for that question. So, yeah, I

1533
00:49:49,929 --> 00:49:50,964
think those are very valid

1534
00:49:50,964 --> 00:49:52,832
points. So the 6300 units that

1535
00:49:52,832 --> 00:49:54,167
were mentioned, those are not

1536
00:49:54,167 --> 00:49:54,901
identified as

1537
00:49:54,901 --> 00:49:57,301
>> market radar affordable it.

1538
00:49:58,271 --> 00:49:58,938
It is just a total number. And

1539
00:49:58,938 --> 00:50:00,273
so I think, you know, as we

1540
00:50:00,273 --> 00:50:01,700
start looking at the policies

1541
00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:04,700
that we've talked about, we

1542
00:50:04,845 --> 00:50:05,745
can certainly add in some

1543
00:50:05,745 --> 00:50:06,446
language to help emphasize the

1544
00:50:06,446 --> 00:50:10,460
fact that we really want this

1545
00:50:10,183 --> 00:50:11,510
to be diversified area. But,

1546
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:13,190
you know, I also do want to

1547
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:13,754
emphasize the city has our

1548
00:50:13,754 --> 00:50:14,955
regional housing needs numbers

1549
00:50:14,955 --> 00:50:17,590
that we have to address. And

1550
00:50:17,590 --> 00:50:18,758
so there will be an emphasis,

1551
00:50:18,758 --> 00:50:20,661
you know, from our perspective

1552
00:50:20,661 --> 00:50:22,262
to make sure that we are

1553
00:50:22,262 --> 00:50:22,996
addressing that as we move

1554
00:50:22,996 --> 00:50:26,596
forward with policy and in our

1555
00:50:28,634 --> 00:50:30,634
conversations with developers.

1556
00:50:32,306 --> 00:50:34,706
>> Thank you. MISS McDonald.

1557
00:50:36,343 --> 00:50:37,770
Thank you for the

1558
00:50:37,770 --> 00:50:38,478
presentation. I too appreciate

1559
00:50:38,478 --> 00:50:39,413
the mixture of the alternative

1560
00:50:39,413 --> 00:50:41,581
plans. I think you guys did a

1561
00:50:41,581 --> 00:50:43,981
great job from council

1562
00:50:44,384 --> 00:50:45,520
feedback and I appreciate

1563
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,252
that. I I was looking for a

1564
00:50:50,958 --> 00:50:52,993
slight 11 on a couple things

1565
00:50:52,993 --> 00:50:54,461
>> you're seeing in here that

1566
00:50:54,461 --> 00:50:55,362
Mobile home parks were not

1567
00:50:55,362 --> 00:50:57,762
proposing re designation and

1568
00:50:57,998 --> 00:51:00,998
just going off of what?

1569
00:51:02,436 --> 00:51:03,403
Councilmember Ben Willis said.

1570
00:51:03,403 --> 00:51:05,605
Is there a way for us to

1571
00:51:05,605 --> 00:51:08,442
protect the mobile home parks

1572
00:51:08,442 --> 00:51:09,543
from being re-designated to

1573
00:51:09,543 --> 00:51:11,778
anything but that or have you

1574
00:51:11,778 --> 00:51:14,615
seen policies put in place

1575
00:51:14,615 --> 00:51:16,349
where there's sort of an

1576
00:51:16,349 --> 00:51:17,317
overlay to prevent them from

1577
00:51:17,317 --> 00:51:20,317
selling to make them even

1578
00:51:20,987 --> 00:51:21,722
affordable housing because we

1579
00:51:21,722 --> 00:51:22,489
know mobile home parks are one

1580
00:51:22,489 --> 00:51:23,157
of the most affordable ways

1581
00:51:23,157 --> 00:51:26,393
for families to be able to

1582
00:51:26,393 --> 00:51:29,396
stay in parks. And that goes

1583
00:51:29,396 --> 00:51:30,970
for our senior parks as well

1584
00:51:30,970 --> 00:51:30,764
family mobile home parks. And

1585
00:51:30,764 --> 00:51:33,764
I'm just curious, have you

1586
00:51:35,869 --> 00:51:36,437
seen any language like that?

1587
00:51:36,437 --> 00:51:38,837
>> Thank you for that

1588
00:51:41,775 --> 00:51:43,110
question. So I to start the

1589
00:51:43,110 --> 00:51:44,845
time as mentioned. Already

1590
00:51:44,845 --> 00:51:46,113
have in the city a mobile home

1591
00:51:46,113 --> 00:51:47,615
land use designation as well

1592
00:51:47,615 --> 00:51:49,350
as a specific zoning district

1593
00:51:49,350 --> 00:51:51,518
for that. It's different in

1594
00:51:51,518 --> 00:51:53,553
the county. But in the city,

1595
00:51:53,553 --> 00:51:54,655
we do have that. And the the

1596
00:51:54,655 --> 00:51:57,550
allowed uses within that

1597
00:51:58,492 --> 00:51:59,930
mobile home zoning is very

1598
00:51:59,930 --> 00:52:00,561
limited. But something

1599
00:52:00,561 --> 00:52:01,828
certainly that, you know,

1600
00:52:01,828 --> 00:52:02,563
given all of the comments and

1601
00:52:02,563 --> 00:52:04,532
concerns that we are receiving

1602
00:52:04,532 --> 00:52:06,801
from folks that live in those

1603
00:52:06,801 --> 00:52:07,501
areas, certainly something

1604
00:52:07,501 --> 00:52:08,802
that we can start looking at

1605
00:52:08,802 --> 00:52:09,904
as we move forward again from

1606
00:52:09,904 --> 00:52:11,939
a policy standpoint, but also

1607
00:52:11,939 --> 00:52:12,639
looking at our zoning

1608
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:14,675
regulations to see if we want

1609
00:52:14,675 --> 00:52:18,275
to shrink that down even more

1610
00:52:18,913 --> 00:52:22,513
to make it more limited to

1611
00:52:22,983 --> 00:52:25,219
that housing. And so any

1612
00:52:25,219 --> 00:52:25,987
future requests to change it

1613
00:52:25,987 --> 00:52:27,988
to something other than that

1614
00:52:27,988 --> 00:52:28,656
would be through both general

1615
00:52:28,656 --> 00:52:29,724
plan amendment which would

1616
00:52:29,724 --> 00:52:31,692
have to come before the

1617
00:52:31,692 --> 00:52:32,559
council. Thank you for that

1618
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:34,362
clarification on on that

1619
00:52:34,362 --> 00:52:37,565
process. And what we can do is

1620
00:52:37,565 --> 00:52:38,533
we potentially titan language

1621
00:52:38,533 --> 00:52:39,500
moving forward on those

1622
00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:41,900
specific areas that are

1623
00:52:42,803 --> 00:52:43,638
currently designated as mobile

1624
00:52:43,638 --> 00:52:45,406
home parks.

1625
00:52:45,406 --> 00:52:46,240
>> what I notice on slide 11,

1626
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:48,750
specifically, if you're able

1627
00:52:48,750 --> 00:52:49,430
to pull it up, you don't need

1628
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:50,911
to.

1629
00:52:50,911 --> 00:52:51,579
>> But I see a lot of light

1630
00:52:51,579 --> 00:52:53,281
yellow. That's as low

1631
00:52:53,281 --> 00:52:54,248
residential medium-low

1632
00:52:54,248 --> 00:52:56,170
residential. When I'm looking

1633
00:52:56,170 --> 00:52:59,170
at your color coordinated map,

1634
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,221
which I appreciate, by the

1635
00:53:00,221 --> 00:53:03,790
way, but I am seeing a lot of

1636
00:53:03,790 --> 00:53:06,227
mixed use and it and as you

1637
00:53:06,227 --> 00:53:08,229
said, Jessica, was that that

1638
00:53:08,229 --> 00:53:10,229
6300 units, they're not

1639
00:53:10,398 --> 00:53:11,232
determined of how that is

1640
00:53:11,232 --> 00:53:12,633
going to go. But if I'm

1641
00:53:12,633 --> 00:53:14,602
looking on these color

1642
00:53:14,602 --> 00:53:15,869
coordinated maps, wooden, it

1643
00:53:15,869 --> 00:53:16,604
show that we actually have a

1644
00:53:16,604 --> 00:53:20,804
lot of area that's going to be

1645
00:53:20,842 --> 00:53:22,743
for. Low residential or is

1646
00:53:22,743 --> 00:53:23,878
that considering that price of

1647
00:53:23,878 --> 00:53:24,979
the market or just low

1648
00:53:24,979 --> 00:53:26,747
residential of how many

1649
00:53:26,747 --> 00:53:29,147
they're putting in those

1650
00:53:29,918 --> 00:53:31,686
areas? Those designations are

1651
00:53:31,686 --> 00:53:34,860
density. So low density

1652
00:53:34,822 --> 00:53:37,222
residential today. Units per

1653
00:53:38,192 --> 00:53:39,360
acre me say The colors

1654
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,760
differentiate amount of units.

1655
00:53:41,930 --> 00:53:42,663
Second on the side doesn't

1656
00:53:42,663 --> 00:53:45,630
identify the affordability. So

1657
00:53:47,802 --> 00:53:48,636
yeah, when I said the 6300

1658
00:53:48,636 --> 00:53:49,870
units aren't and what I meant

1659
00:53:49,870 --> 00:53:52,707
by that is that they are

1660
00:53:52,707 --> 00:53:53,975
identified far as the level of

1661
00:53:53,975 --> 00:53:54,943
affordability that those

1662
00:53:54,943 --> 00:53:56,144
units, it is just the density

1663
00:53:56,144 --> 00:53:56,945
of those areas that's going to

1664
00:53:56,945 --> 00:53:57,878
do with the affordability.

1665
00:53:57,878 --> 00:53:59,314
Thank you for that

1666
00:53:59,314 --> 00:53:59,948
clarification not makes more

1667
00:53:59,948 --> 00:54:01,948
sense. What councilmember

1668
00:54:02,450 --> 00:54:03,251
basically thing because I was

1669
00:54:03,251 --> 00:54:06,251
thinking they actually meant a

1670
00:54:06,955 --> 00:54:07,889
fairly large area. So thank

1671
00:54:07,889 --> 00:54:11,959
you for that. I think that is

1672
00:54:11,959 --> 00:54:14,996
most of my. Questions. One of

1673
00:54:14,996 --> 00:54:15,897
the questions I had it you had

1674
00:54:15,897 --> 00:54:17,831
on the map, Connor, where you

1675
00:54:17,831 --> 00:54:20,831
had connectivity from south to

1676
00:54:21,469 --> 00:54:22,170
our part the east to west on a

1677
00:54:22,170 --> 00:54:23,738
couple different roads. Could

1678
00:54:23,738 --> 00:54:24,839
you tell me what that would

1679
00:54:24,839 --> 00:54:26,774
look like for connectivity? I

1680
00:54:26,774 --> 00:54:27,475
know we just did the Hearn

1681
00:54:27,475 --> 00:54:30,475
we're talking about a bridge

1682
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:32,881
can to connect, you know,

1683
00:54:32,881 --> 00:54:33,748
North West and northeast. But

1684
00:54:33,748 --> 00:54:36,818
could you tell me what that

1685
00:54:36,818 --> 00:54:37,853
might look like? France

1686
00:54:37,853 --> 00:54:38,587
connectivity? Would it be

1687
00:54:38,587 --> 00:54:42,187
under over the freeway or what

1688
00:54:43,758 --> 00:54:44,493
are looking at for those?

1689
00:54:44,493 --> 00:54:45,527
>> Sorry, could you? Thank you

1690
00:54:45,527 --> 00:54:46,194
for the question. Could you

1691
00:54:46,194 --> 00:54:49,194
clarify? Are you looking at

1692
00:54:49,531 --> 00:54:50,665
specific think it might be?

1693
00:54:50,665 --> 00:54:51,333
>> Under the trance and or

1694
00:54:51,333 --> 00:54:53,733
transportation or there was

1695
00:54:54,302 --> 00:54:55,504
something that said improved

1696
00:54:55,504 --> 00:54:56,905
existing highway 101 cross

1697
00:54:56,905 --> 00:55:00,505
Crossing. So I think it's on

1698
00:55:01,777 --> 00:55:02,978
slide. Twelves. There's some

1699
00:55:02,978 --> 00:55:04,413
little arrows going back for

1700
00:55:04,413 --> 00:55:05,800
us as proposed highway 101

1701
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,800
crossing. You have a couple

1702
00:55:09,584 --> 00:55:11,584
different areas.

1703
00:55:11,753 --> 00:55:12,387
>> All-Star carrying improved

1704
00:55:12,387 --> 00:55:15,387
existing. So part of the

1705
00:55:15,691 --> 00:55:16,991
feedback and I mean, driven on

1706
00:55:16,991 --> 00:55:19,561
Todd Road crossing many times

1707
00:55:19,561 --> 00:55:20,562
and it's not a very

1708
00:55:20,562 --> 00:55:22,962
comfortable that will be

1709
00:55:23,230 --> 00:55:23,932
partnering with City County

1710
00:55:23,932 --> 00:55:27,336
public works folks to see if

1711
00:55:27,336 --> 00:55:28,470
there's any sort of traffic

1712
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:29,204
design changes or striping and

1713
00:55:29,204 --> 00:55:31,272
things of that nature. It just

1714
00:55:31,272 --> 00:55:31,974
kind of identifies that it is

1715
00:55:31,974 --> 00:55:34,974
existing issue that we'd like

1716
00:55:36,578 --> 00:55:40,178
to improve. It light for to

1717
00:55:40,248 --> 00:55:40,915
improve the experience of

1718
00:55:40,915 --> 00:55:42,684
vertically that rose to the

1719
00:55:42,684 --> 00:55:44,684
Moreland neighborhood, getting

1720
00:55:44,686 --> 00:55:45,386
Centers avenue and then moving

1721
00:55:45,386 --> 00:55:48,386
north, you'll see a proposed.

1722
00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:49,910
I went to one crossing that

1723
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:50,926
first one that Robles that is

1724
00:55:50,926 --> 00:55:54,526
kind of a contemplated to be

1725
00:55:55,397 --> 00:55:56,865
just a bike and ped bridge.

1726
00:55:56,865 --> 00:55:57,599
And then the one North

1727
00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:00,599
Bellevue is contemplated to be

1728
00:56:01,300 --> 00:56:01,870
vehicles as well. And as we

1729
00:56:01,870 --> 00:56:03,839
know from the herd

1730
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:04,506
overcrossing things get put on

1731
00:56:04,506 --> 00:56:06,675
maps are in plans and that

1732
00:56:06,675 --> 00:56:08,978
takes years and years of cip

1733
00:56:08,978 --> 00:56:09,745
proposition and fundraising.

1734
00:56:09,745 --> 00:56:10,379
But this is kind of that

1735
00:56:10,379 --> 00:56:12,779
planning exercise at this

1736
00:56:13,315 --> 00:56:14,383
point.

1737
00:56:14,383 --> 00:56:15,840
>> Great. That's helpful to

1738
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,519
know. I'm glad you're meeting

1739
00:56:17,519 --> 00:56:21,119
with the county to remind them

1740
00:56:21,423 --> 00:56:22,625
that any area that still in

1741
00:56:22,625 --> 00:56:23,325
county jurisdiction should be

1742
00:56:23,325 --> 00:56:25,270
having infrastructure done by

1743
00:56:25,270 --> 00:56:27,930
the county coffers. Before we

1744
00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:28,864
take over from the city. So I

1745
00:56:28,864 --> 00:56:29,498
hope you can convey that

1746
00:56:29,498 --> 00:56:31,898
message in your meetings

1747
00:56:33,135 --> 00:56:33,836
tomorrow as well. Thank you.

1748
00:56:33,836 --> 00:56:36,836
Thank you. And the questions

1749
00:56:38,274 --> 00:56:39,275
from council. Let's open it up

1750
00:56:39,275 --> 00:56:41,100
to public comment. Then we'll

1751
00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:42,211
start in council chambers and

1752
00:56:42,211 --> 00:56:44,980
we have some names in front of

1753
00:56:44,980 --> 00:56:45,715
If you do want to make public

1754
00:56:45,715 --> 00:56:46,382
comment, you consider card the

1755
00:56:46,382 --> 00:56:47,490
back. Otherwise, please be

1756
00:56:47,490 --> 00:56:48,651
waiting by the podium when

1757
00:56:48,651 --> 00:56:49,918
it's time speak.

1758
00:56:49,918 --> 00:56:51,754
>> And if you're online,

1759
00:56:51,754 --> 00:56:52,621
please raise your hand or dial

1760
00:56:52,621 --> 00:56:54,189
star 9. Still, we move to

1761
00:56:54,189 --> 00:56:56,991
online public comment next. We

1762
00:56:56,991 --> 00:56:59,161
know you have a comment. Let's

1763
00:56:59,161 --> 00:57:01,300
start with those who submit

1764
00:57:01,300 --> 00:57:03,132
their cars start with Caitlin

1765
00:57:03,132 --> 00:57:05,100
and again Linda. Caitlin,

1766
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:05,667
Abby. And if you can use both

1767
00:57:05,667 --> 00:57:09,267
podiums so that we can move

1768
00:57:09,305 --> 00:57:10,339
through this efficiently. That

1769
00:57:10,339 --> 00:57:12,341
would be appreciated. And if

1770
00:57:12,341 --> 00:57:13,750
you do need help with

1771
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:15,645
translation, then we will have

1772
00:57:15,645 --> 00:57:17,947
an extra 2 minutes. It will

1773
00:57:17,947 --> 00:57:18,681
meet him in a public comment,

1774
00:57:18,681 --> 00:57:20,149
it's at translator is required

1775
00:57:20,149 --> 00:57:22,549
provide extra 2 minutes. So,

1776
00:57:23,850 --> 00:57:25,321
Linda, you have the floor.

1777
00:57:25,321 --> 00:57:26,455
>> Hello, everybody. It's

1778
00:57:26,455 --> 00:57:27,123
Lena. For the record have not

1779
00:57:27,123 --> 00:57:27,756
gone. Tenant organizer with

1780
00:57:27,756 --> 00:57:29,525
the North Bay Organizing

1781
00:57:29,525 --> 00:57:31,727
Project in Sonoma County

1782
00:57:31,727 --> 00:57:32,628
tenants Union last week. Santa

1783
00:57:32,628 --> 00:57:33,663
Rosa Planning Commission. We

1784
00:57:33,663 --> 00:57:36,663
had over 35 residents who live

1785
00:57:37,433 --> 00:57:39,435
in the Santa Rosa plan area.

1786
00:57:39,435 --> 00:57:40,569
The South Center is a specific

1787
00:57:40,569 --> 00:57:41,304
plan and brought for their

1788
00:57:41,304 --> 00:57:43,339
concerns and need for

1789
00:57:43,339 --> 00:57:45,740
essential anti displacement

1790
00:57:45,740 --> 00:57:45,675
protections for the mobile

1791
00:57:45,675 --> 00:57:47,176
home parks and aims of

1792
00:57:47,176 --> 00:57:49,145
emergency concerns happening

1793
00:57:49,145 --> 00:57:50,346
right now, residents of

1794
00:57:50,346 --> 00:57:50,980
Western and cause a mobile

1795
00:57:50,980 --> 00:57:52,482
home parks are primarily

1796
00:57:52,482 --> 00:57:53,449
immigrants. Spanish speaking

1797
00:57:53,449 --> 00:57:55,449
families, veterans, survivors

1798
00:57:56,118 --> 00:57:56,819
of domestic abuse, single

1799
00:57:56,819 --> 00:57:57,552
mothers, people living with

1800
00:57:57,552 --> 00:57:59,952
disabilities and elders living

1801
00:58:01,123 --> 00:58:03,326
on fixed incomes. Many of the

1802
00:58:03,326 --> 00:58:04,160
folks who live in these parks

1803
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,228
experience displacement, not

1804
00:58:05,228 --> 00:58:07,628
only from the 2008 financial

1805
00:58:07,764 --> 00:58:09,866
crisis, but also from the 2017

1806
00:58:09,866 --> 00:58:11,834
wildfires. Folks are enduring

1807
00:58:11,834 --> 00:58:13,736
pressures not only from

1808
00:58:13,736 --> 00:58:14,337
possible displacement from the

1809
00:58:14,337 --> 00:58:15,571
south Rent Santa Rosa,

1810
00:58:15,571 --> 00:58:16,539
specific area, but also from

1811
00:58:16,539 --> 00:58:17,173
corporate investor, Harmony

1812
00:58:17,173 --> 00:58:19,173
Communities who recently

1813
00:58:22,211 --> 00:58:23,312
bought their parks. Residents

1814
00:58:23,312 --> 00:58:24,470
have faced an onslaught of

1815
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:24,747
intimidation and harassment by

1816
00:58:24,747 --> 00:58:26,747
harmony, including seven-day

1817
00:58:27,830 --> 00:58:27,784
notices. The overnight removal

1818
00:58:27,784 --> 00:58:28,350
of 40 shaved essential shape,

1819
00:58:28,350 --> 00:58:30,350
providing trees, park

1820
00:58:30,487 --> 00:58:32,655
maintenance to glatt, it's

1821
00:58:32,655 --> 00:58:35,425
cetera. You know, harmony is

1822
00:58:35,425 --> 00:58:37,259
investing right now. Not 5 of

1823
00:58:37,259 --> 00:58:38,395
the 9 parks that Harmony

1824
00:58:38,395 --> 00:58:40,330
Communities owns is in Santa

1825
00:58:40,330 --> 00:58:41,131
Rosa. And 3 of those are in

1826
00:58:41,131 --> 00:58:42,831
the unincorporated area in the

1827
00:58:42,831 --> 00:58:44,834
South. Santa Rosa specific

1828
00:58:44,834 --> 00:58:45,768
plan. If the city and county

1829
00:58:45,768 --> 00:58:47,871
move forward, we need to see

1830
00:58:47,871 --> 00:58:48,705
some essential renter

1831
00:58:48,705 --> 00:58:49,706
protections that includes

1832
00:58:49,706 --> 00:58:51,308
baseline targets for

1833
00:58:51,308 --> 00:58:53,308
preserving housing for

1834
00:58:55,450 --> 00:58:56,120
extremely low and very

1835
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,913
low-income households,

1836
00:58:57,913 --> 00:58:59,315
protecting mobile home parks

1837
00:58:59,315 --> 00:59:00,316
through specific land use

1838
00:59:00,316 --> 00:59:01,918
designations, stronger, rent,

1839
00:59:01,918 --> 00:59:03,386
stabilization and safeguards

1840
00:59:03,386 --> 00:59:05,187
against Park closure. We want

1841
00:59:05,187 --> 00:59:06,256
to see just cause protections

1842
00:59:06,256 --> 00:59:06,990
for all renters in Santa Rosa

1843
00:59:06,990 --> 00:59:09,990
to match or exceed protections

1844
00:59:10,493 --> 00:59:11,393
in the county. We want to

1845
00:59:11,393 --> 00:59:13,463
adopt a rent, stabilization

1846
00:59:13,463 --> 00:59:16,199
and cap of annual rent

1847
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:16,866
increases by 3%. You know, we

1848
00:59:16,866 --> 00:59:17,534
support investment in plant

1849
00:59:17,534 --> 00:59:18,234
area but want to make sure

1850
00:59:18,234 --> 00:59:18,902
that the folks who live here

1851
00:59:18,902 --> 00:59:19,869
can stay rooted here. Thank

1852
00:59:19,869 --> 00:59:21,869
you so much.

1853
00:59:25,508 --> 00:59:26,576
>> Thank you, Caitlin. Thank

1854
00:59:26,576 --> 00:59:28,145
you. And good afternoon, Mayor

1855
00:59:28,145 --> 00:59:28,878
stop and council members. I'm

1856
00:59:28,878 --> 00:59:31,878
Kate by housing policy analyst

1857
00:59:32,148 --> 00:59:32,882
at Legal aid Sonoma County.

1858
00:59:32,882 --> 00:59:36,186
And today I'm here to urge the

1859
00:59:36,186 --> 00:59:37,220
city to invest in South Santa

1860
00:59:37,220 --> 00:59:38,540
Rosa without displacing the

1861
00:59:38,540 --> 00:59:39,890
low-income working Latino and

1862
00:59:39,890 --> 00:59:40,824
immigrant families who live in

1863
00:59:40,824 --> 00:59:43,590
these neighborhoods and called

1864
00:59:43,590 --> 00:59:44,828
him home median household

1865
00:59:44,828 --> 00:59:47,228
income. Here is a $60,000.

1866
00:59:47,397 --> 00:59:49,399
That's a full 35% below the

1867
00:59:49,399 --> 00:59:50,867
citywide average. And this

1868
00:59:50,867 --> 00:59:52,836
area which has long deserved

1869
00:59:52,836 --> 00:59:54,571
access to services to

1870
00:59:54,571 --> 00:59:55,238
infrastructure and 2 basic

1871
00:59:55,238 --> 00:59:57,638
amenities. The residents in

1872
00:59:59,800 --> 00:59:59,576
the rest of Santa Rosa enjoy

1873
00:59:59,576 --> 01:00:00,944
they deserve to have

1874
01:00:00,944 --> 01:00:01,645
investment that starts with

1875
01:00:01,645 --> 01:00:03,645
protecting housing, stability

1876
01:00:04,140 --> 01:00:05,882
of families who live here.

1877
01:00:05,882 --> 01:00:08,882
This area has 17 mobile home

1878
01:00:09,453 --> 01:00:10,353
parks or 1000 homes in rv's.

1879
01:00:10,353 --> 01:00:10,921
These are some of the last

1880
01:00:10,921 --> 01:00:12,555
naturally occurring,

1881
01:00:12,555 --> 01:00:14,758
affordable housing that we

1882
01:00:14,758 --> 01:00:15,592
have and corporate investors,

1883
01:00:15,592 --> 01:00:16,527
as you've heard, have already

1884
01:00:16,527 --> 01:00:17,127
been acquiring parks in

1885
01:00:17,127 --> 01:00:19,127
anticipation of rising

1886
01:00:19,997 --> 01:00:22,899
property values in the area.

1887
01:00:22,899 --> 01:00:25,899
When a single new affordable

1888
01:00:26,303 --> 01:00:27,637
units of housing cost $500,000

1889
01:00:27,637 --> 01:00:29,606
to develop preserving what we

1890
01:00:29,606 --> 01:00:30,540
have is one of the most cost

1891
01:00:30,540 --> 01:00:31,675
effective tools that the city

1892
01:00:31,675 --> 01:00:34,675
has its disposal to prevent

1893
01:00:34,778 --> 01:00:36,778
displacement and homelessness.

1894
01:00:36,780 --> 01:00:37,748
And the plan zoning should

1895
01:00:37,748 --> 01:00:38,648
reflect the city's actual

1896
01:00:38,648 --> 01:00:40,117
needs. Appreciate the comments

1897
01:00:40,117 --> 01:00:42,860
from some of the council

1898
01:00:42,860 --> 01:00:45,656
members today. City is on pace

1899
01:00:45,656 --> 01:00:49,256
to build only 56% of its very

1900
01:00:49,426 --> 01:00:50,127
low reena targets by 2030.

1901
01:00:50,127 --> 01:00:51,528
Meanwhile, it's on target to

1902
01:00:51,528 --> 01:00:53,928
build 231% of its above

1903
01:00:54,331 --> 01:00:55,499
moderate income housing. And

1904
01:00:55,499 --> 01:00:56,400
we see this in the low

1905
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:57,201
density, the single-family

1906
01:00:57,201 --> 01:01:00,801
zoning on the east side tied

1907
01:01:00,905 --> 01:01:01,572
to the Todd Creek Development,

1908
01:01:01,572 --> 01:01:02,272
which is rumored to be the

1909
01:01:02,272 --> 01:01:02,973
first project to come forward

1910
01:01:02,973 --> 01:01:05,973
to materialize out of this

1911
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:06,710
plan. Placement also cares

1912
01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:08,450
environmental consequences. I

1913
01:01:08,450 --> 01:01:09,613
want to highlight that in a

1914
01:01:09,613 --> 01:01:10,313
community that's already

1915
01:01:10,313 --> 01:01:12,313
significantly environmentally

1916
01:01:13,684 --> 01:01:14,818
burdened and has had

1917
01:01:14,818 --> 01:01:15,786
significant health disparities

1918
01:01:15,786 --> 01:01:17,688
from the rest of the city and

1919
01:01:17,688 --> 01:01:18,388
the county. So please

1920
01:01:18,388 --> 01:01:19,550
highlight and to displace the

1921
01:01:19,550 --> 01:01:20,491
measure part of this plan.

1922
01:01:20,491 --> 01:01:21,225
Happy to work with council and

1923
01:01:21,225 --> 01:01:24,361
staff on any of those specific

1924
01:01:24,361 --> 01:01:26,163
policies. Thank you. Thank

1925
01:01:26,163 --> 01:01:27,364
you. Calyn over at me. And

1926
01:01:27,364 --> 01:01:28,320
then Norman Marina, an Angel.

1927
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,935
Abby will start with you in

1928
01:01:30,935 --> 01:01:31,902
the norm or in an angel.

1929
01:01:31,902 --> 01:01:33,904
>> Have had. Thank you so

1930
01:01:33,904 --> 01:01:34,538
much. Good afternoon, mayor

1931
01:01:34,538 --> 01:01:35,906
and council members. I'm

1932
01:01:35,906 --> 01:01:38,306
representing Santa Rosa Yimby

1933
01:01:38,442 --> 01:01:40,842
an all volunteer organization

1934
01:01:41,978 --> 01:01:43,800
of over 500 Santa Rosa

1935
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:44,215
residents dedicated to

1936
01:01:44,215 --> 01:01:45,949
building Santa Rosa into an

1937
01:01:45,949 --> 01:01:47,949
affordable, vibrant and

1938
01:01:48,285 --> 01:01:49,787
low-carbon city. We're pleased

1939
01:01:49,787 --> 01:01:50,488
that the proposed alternative

1940
01:01:50,488 --> 01:01:52,823
addresses are top priorities

1941
01:01:52,823 --> 01:01:54,592
for Santa Rosa. One of which

1942
01:01:54,592 --> 01:01:56,592
is concentrating housing

1943
01:01:57,862 --> 01:01:58,562
density near downtown,

1944
01:01:58,562 --> 01:02:00,562
improving connections between

1945
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,835
East and West and recognizing

1946
01:02:04,835 --> 01:02:05,503
the need for multi-modal

1947
01:02:05,503 --> 01:02:07,503
corridor improvements along

1948
01:02:08,973 --> 01:02:10,973
Santa Rosa Avenue.

1949
01:02:11,576 --> 01:02:12,430
>> We encourage you to propose

1950
01:02:12,430 --> 01:02:14,430
some additions.

1951
01:02:15,179 --> 01:02:17,247
>> To the plan, which include

1952
01:02:17,247 --> 01:02:19,647
increasing the density near

1953
01:02:21,252 --> 01:02:21,886
the Eastern Urban wildlife

1954
01:02:21,886 --> 01:02:23,254
interface to generate the

1955
01:02:23,254 --> 01:02:25,388
revenues that will be needed

1956
01:02:25,388 --> 01:02:28,388
to offset the new roads,

1957
01:02:29,393 --> 01:02:31,393
utilities and vegetation

1958
01:02:31,429 --> 01:02:33,164
maintenance that the new

1959
01:02:33,164 --> 01:02:35,564
development will require in

1960
01:02:37,340 --> 01:02:39,370
our proposed low density is

1961
01:02:39,370 --> 01:02:39,670
not adequate to pay for the

1962
01:02:39,670 --> 01:02:41,380
costs of maintaining the

1963
01:02:41,380 --> 01:02:43,700
necessary public

1964
01:02:43,700 --> 01:02:43,741
infrastructure. Secondly, in

1965
01:02:43,741 --> 01:02:46,141
order to maintain the

1966
01:02:46,878 --> 01:02:47,745
affordability of the Moreland

1967
01:02:47,745 --> 01:02:48,412
neighborhood, encourage

1968
01:02:48,412 --> 01:02:50,812
increased housing supply in

1969
01:02:51,582 --> 01:02:52,450
that neighborhood. Offering

1970
01:02:52,450 --> 01:02:53,718
additional housing

1971
01:02:53,718 --> 01:02:55,686
opportunities will help keep

1972
01:02:55,686 --> 01:02:58,550
the cost of housing at an

1973
01:02:58,550 --> 01:02:58,889
affordable level. And 3rd to

1974
01:02:58,889 --> 01:03:01,889
retain the possibility of a

1975
01:03:02,227 --> 01:03:05,196
future smart station in the

1976
01:03:05,196 --> 01:03:06,297
South area that will serve the

1977
01:03:06,297 --> 01:03:08,697
proposed cluster of industry,

1978
01:03:10,100 --> 01:03:10,568
housing and retail as we in

1979
01:03:10,568 --> 01:03:12,568
the future decreased

1980
01:03:13,370 --> 01:03:16,370
dependency on cars. Thanks so

1981
01:03:16,730 --> 01:03:16,775
much, MISS Arnold. Thank you.

1982
01:03:16,775 --> 01:03:17,475
Norm a marina and then angel

1983
01:03:17,475 --> 01:03:20,475
and use both podiums. Please.

1984
01:03:23,681 --> 01:03:24,282
>> Normal.

1985
01:03:24,282 --> 01:03:24,982
>> Hi. My name is Norma

1986
01:03:24,982 --> 01:03:28,286
Fernandez. And I lived in was

1987
01:03:28,286 --> 01:03:28,953
to mobile home park for 15

1988
01:03:28,953 --> 01:03:31,256
years. I live in one of the

1989
01:03:31,256 --> 01:03:33,391
mobile home parks. They're 17.

1990
01:03:33,391 --> 01:03:36,428
And if I'm not wrong and I

1991
01:03:36,428 --> 01:03:38,290
just come to ask him plea that

1992
01:03:38,290 --> 01:03:38,730
we would not be removed. We

1993
01:03:38,730 --> 01:03:41,660
know you're building. We know

1994
01:03:41,660 --> 01:03:44,536
it looks beautiful rcd. If it

1995
01:03:44,536 --> 01:03:45,236
looks nice and clean, we're

1996
01:03:45,236 --> 01:03:47,380
part of harmony are many. We

1997
01:03:47,380 --> 01:03:50,638
have no management. We have no

1998
01:03:50,908 --> 01:03:53,110
one to look after us. We're

1999
01:03:53,110 --> 01:03:53,678
just the bandit I buy by the

2000
01:03:53,678 --> 01:03:56,678
freeway at an apartment or

2001
01:03:57,649 --> 01:03:59,517
space number. 64 and I have no

2002
01:03:59,517 --> 01:04:01,152
lightning. I've been asked and

2003
01:04:01,152 --> 01:04:02,654
rejected my petition if I

2004
01:04:02,654 --> 01:04:05,757
don't like it, I can be

2005
01:04:05,757 --> 01:04:06,791
removed. We have the big board

2006
01:04:06,791 --> 01:04:07,492
that, of course, they're going

2007
01:04:07,492 --> 01:04:09,795
develop new apartments. They

2008
01:04:09,795 --> 01:04:12,564
could make more money. I am a

2009
01:04:12,564 --> 01:04:14,899
widow. I have my grandkids. My

2010
01:04:14,899 --> 01:04:16,301
son and myself leaving that we

2011
01:04:16,301 --> 01:04:18,690
all live in different mobile

2012
01:04:18,690 --> 01:04:20,438
homes. We try to keep it clean

2013
01:04:20,438 --> 01:04:23,438
ourselves. We think we deserve

2014
01:04:23,474 --> 01:04:25,377
a little sharing a little

2015
01:04:25,377 --> 01:04:26,440
respect were all together here

2016
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,440
and we appreciate each and

2017
01:04:29,381 --> 01:04:30,682
every one here.

2018
01:04:30,682 --> 01:04:31,315
>> That is taking a little a

2019
01:04:31,315 --> 01:04:33,418
little easier on and say

2020
01:04:33,418 --> 01:04:34,119
hello, we're not alone when

2021
01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:35,887
that, but that home before my

2022
01:04:35,887 --> 01:04:37,923
husband passed away, I was

2023
01:04:37,923 --> 01:04:39,925
excited to get it. Now I'm

2024
01:04:39,925 --> 01:04:40,826
afraid now. I can speak out if

2025
01:04:40,826 --> 01:04:42,560
I don't have a light mean

2026
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:43,962
outside and I'm in the dark

2027
01:04:43,962 --> 01:04:46,430
spot. Well, that's ok, because

2028
01:04:46,430 --> 01:04:47,980
if you complain you're out, if

2029
01:04:47,980 --> 01:04:49,968
you don't like it, you can

2030
01:04:49,968 --> 01:04:51,570
afford a new warehouse. I know

2031
01:04:51,570 --> 01:04:53,472
I cannot. That's why I'm

2032
01:04:53,472 --> 01:04:54,506
there. I appreciate having a

2033
01:04:54,506 --> 01:04:58,106
home, but I do not appreciate

2034
01:04:58,877 --> 01:05:00,450
being left alone. When I see

2035
01:05:00,450 --> 01:05:02,347
the streets, developing a lot

2036
01:05:02,347 --> 01:05:04,820
new mobile homes in apartments

2037
01:05:04,820 --> 01:05:05,817
and it looks gorgeous. I want

2038
01:05:05,817 --> 01:05:08,753
to look like that too. I want

2039
01:05:08,753 --> 01:05:09,855
to have a house like that.

2040
01:05:09,855 --> 01:05:10,589
>> how we're going to do it if

2041
01:05:10,589 --> 01:05:13,658
we cannot even keep our little

2042
01:05:13,658 --> 01:05:14,359
mobile home safe. We all fear

2043
01:05:14,359 --> 01:05:15,661
we are all talking about it.

2044
01:05:15,661 --> 01:05:18,530
And I appreciate your time and

2045
01:05:18,530 --> 01:05:19,665
please make sure we have

2046
01:05:19,665 --> 01:05:20,466
enough to get inside our

2047
01:05:20,466 --> 01:05:22,568
parking spot. We do not have

2048
01:05:22,568 --> 01:05:24,203
ability to get in there. If

2049
01:05:24,203 --> 01:05:26,238
somebody goes to mobile home

2050
01:05:26,238 --> 01:05:27,639
Parks, thank you. Appreciate

2051
01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:28,307
it.

2052
01:05:28,307 --> 01:05:29,410
>> Thank you. Ms Fernandez,

2053
01:05:29,410 --> 01:05:32,410
Marina Angel and then Alex

2054
01:05:36,114 --> 01:05:37,883
Marina.

2055
01:05:37,883 --> 01:05:39,840
>> And when a start of a new

2056
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,186
Levy man, up to the U.S. Will

2057
01:05:41,186 --> 01:05:42,153
be kept in the side. You

2058
01:05:42,153 --> 01:05:43,455
living in those top goal, you

2059
01:05:43,455 --> 01:05:44,355
not been normal. This blast.

2060
01:05:44,355 --> 01:05:46,258
And then Reebok is Maureen is

2061
01:05:46,258 --> 01:05:47,859
momentum. Marino siento I we

2062
01:05:47,859 --> 01:05:49,859
get the instructions.

2063
01:05:50,696 --> 01:05:51,363
>> Thank you, Mayor.

2064
01:05:51,363 --> 01:05:54,963
>> Let me bring one of the

2065
01:05:55,300 --> 01:05:57,300
interpreters back over.

2066
01:05:57,435 --> 01:05:58,700
>> Claudia or low shot lotion.

2067
01:05:58,700 --> 01:05:58,737
Am I bringing you back to

2068
01:05:58,737 --> 01:06:01,737
English side? If so, please

2069
01:06:16,388 --> 01:06:17,122
raise your hand. Ok, low show.

2070
01:06:17,122 --> 01:06:21,322
>> We have snow on the side of

2071
01:06:21,927 --> 01:06:22,661
the is.

2072
01:06:22,661 --> 01:06:23,328
>> Okay on those this blessing

2073
01:06:23,328 --> 01:06:26,328
and you don't really think

2074
01:06:27,533 --> 01:06:30,236
that one. You normally Miami

2075
01:06:30,236 --> 01:06:30,970
this something was Bacchus,

2076
01:06:30,970 --> 01:06:35,541
get in on those who want a lot

2077
01:06:35,541 --> 01:06:36,242
rain that. In honor of this

2078
01:06:36,242 --> 01:06:39,242
getting mean in your normal.

2079
01:06:43,150 --> 01:06:43,649
So Thi You give them put them

2080
01:06:43,649 --> 01:06:44,350
on the open sea on unless

2081
01:06:44,350 --> 01:06:46,219
Kaczynski Senate see them put

2082
01:06:46,219 --> 01:06:50,489
in that now on the d a isn't

2083
01:06:50,489 --> 01:06:51,790
this asked that animals see

2084
01:06:51,790 --> 01:06:53,225
Yeah. You have a one just

2085
01:06:53,225 --> 01:06:53,960
based on a silent best game.

2086
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:58,160
Which of this in on those pull

2087
01:07:00,766 --> 01:07:01,467
them of this. I at ease. Nice

2088
01:07:01,467 --> 01:07:02,702
to see them I knew that. But

2089
01:07:02,702 --> 01:07:05,671
again, no known women then was

2090
01:07:05,671 --> 01:07:06,338
the little storm was just so

2091
01:07:06,338 --> 01:07:06,972
that the name was they did

2092
01:07:06,972 --> 01:07:10,572
join with pro that you so

2093
01:07:12,245 --> 01:07:12,911
violent reign fact, I knew

2094
01:07:12,911 --> 01:07:13,612
then that can North Beth in

2095
01:07:13,612 --> 01:07:14,647
ways that eventually they be

2096
01:07:14,647 --> 01:07:16,647
in that.

2097
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,160
>> Casing at that moment do,

2098
01:07:20,753 --> 01:07:23,989
ok, we would like to have r.

2099
01:07:23,989 --> 01:07:27,589
Rent to fair and we would

2100
01:07:27,727 --> 01:07:29,929
also. Like to not be

2101
01:07:29,929 --> 01:07:31,929
discriminated against or

2102
01:07:31,964 --> 01:07:32,898
harassed. We would like to be

2103
01:07:32,898 --> 01:07:35,898
paid attention to the things

2104
01:07:36,350 --> 01:07:36,435
that we need. We don't want to

2105
01:07:36,435 --> 01:07:37,203
be denied.

2106
01:07:37,203 --> 01:07:40,373
>> And we also want to keep

2107
01:07:40,373 --> 01:07:41,140
our home. We are older adults

2108
01:07:41,140 --> 01:07:41,841
and we have hard time

2109
01:07:41,841 --> 01:07:44,241
functioning and moving around

2110
01:07:46,646 --> 01:07:48,715
and we cannot move so fast and

2111
01:07:48,715 --> 01:07:49,849
we want them to respect us and

2112
01:07:49,849 --> 01:07:52,510
not raise our rent. So end up

2113
01:07:52,510 --> 01:07:52,685
with a look at. We have the

2114
01:07:52,685 --> 01:07:53,419
need to get the in Festus

2115
01:07:53,419 --> 01:07:54,154
Court. This about You just put

2116
01:07:54,154 --> 01:07:55,988
up with it. Think they want to

2117
01:07:55,988 --> 01:07:58,491
in place to get used advocate

2118
01:07:58,491 --> 01:08:02,691
eating, to put this u n okay,

2119
01:08:05,565 --> 01:08:06,232
put Guess going lie.

2120
01:08:06,232 --> 01:08:06,932
>> invisible. Kevin wasn't

2121
01:08:06,932 --> 01:08:07,667
just based on island. That's

2122
01:08:07,667 --> 01:08:11,267
I. Yeah. I mean, you something

2123
01:08:12,238 --> 01:08:13,239
in me. Wilson was thrown

2124
01:08:13,239 --> 01:08:13,973
that's what news is. The give

2125
01:08:13,973 --> 01:08:14,873
most apoyen knocking on the of

2126
01:08:14,873 --> 01:08:15,575
I and others because it

2127
01:08:15,575 --> 01:08:16,242
normally and that's where we

2128
01:08:16,242 --> 01:08:17,676
let me in fact, it in this

2129
01:08:17,676 --> 01:08:20,213
that most. We'll see you on

2130
01:08:20,213 --> 01:08:23,213
the ballot is give on.

2131
01:08:24,951 --> 01:08:27,153
>> So we you guys. We would

2132
01:08:27,153 --> 01:08:28,188
like you guys to please stop

2133
01:08:28,188 --> 01:08:29,823
harassing us. When you go over

2134
01:08:29,823 --> 01:08:30,657
there did not raise our rent.

2135
01:08:30,657 --> 01:08:32,458
We are older adults. We need

2136
01:08:32,458 --> 01:08:33,393
help. We also have children

2137
01:08:33,393 --> 01:08:36,993
there and we don't want to

2138
01:08:40,734 --> 01:08:42,734
move. Thank you.

2139
01:08:43,690 --> 01:08:45,471
>> And Marina, thank you for

2140
01:08:45,471 --> 01:08:49,710
coming across the U.S.. We

2141
01:08:52,212 --> 01:08:53,280
want to see Angel Alex

2142
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:53,947
>> We'll be sharing his

2143
01:08:53,947 --> 01:08:54,614
comments in Spanish and has

2144
01:08:54,614 --> 01:08:57,614
asked that. I interpret for

2145
01:08:58,618 --> 01:08:59,319
him. Thank you very much.

2146
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:00,200
>> We went that but I you

2147
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,255
know, I'm going a part of the

2148
01:09:02,255 --> 01:09:03,355
deal.

2149
01:09:03,355 --> 01:09:04,691
>> So afternoon, everyone, my

2150
01:09:04,691 --> 01:09:06,590
name is on But the

2151
01:09:06,590 --> 01:09:08,695
>> So you in this way

2152
01:09:08,695 --> 01:09:09,395
>> I'm from in Atlanta.

2153
01:09:09,395 --> 01:09:11,264
>> They will quote that knew

2154
01:09:11,264 --> 01:09:11,932
even then that. But okay.

2155
01:09:11,932 --> 01:09:14,868
>> I have 4 years living in

2156
01:09:14,868 --> 01:09:15,568
Western Mobile home park.

2157
01:09:15,568 --> 01:09:19,168
>> So you'd be deemed this a

2158
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:20,707
companion capital owner.

2159
01:09:20,707 --> 01:09:21,408
Mothers go missing Comaneci

2160
01:09:21,408 --> 01:09:23,543
Thelma, Guinea and the singer

2161
01:09:23,543 --> 01:09:24,744
and the utility.

2162
01:09:24,744 --> 01:09:26,613
>> You know, I am a recent

2163
01:09:26,613 --> 01:09:27,781
victim of the company, Harmony

2164
01:09:27,781 --> 01:09:29,883
Communities about 4 months ago

2165
01:09:29,883 --> 01:09:32,853
they started charging me rent

2166
01:09:32,853 --> 01:09:35,555
and I have lost 1001 those

2167
01:09:35,555 --> 01:09:36,756
under anatomy and doesn't want

2168
01:09:36,756 --> 01:09:39,590
you $1500 paying extra for the

2169
01:09:39,590 --> 01:09:39,726
rent. They're charging me.

2170
01:09:39,726 --> 01:09:41,928
>> But I will say this. You

2171
01:09:41,928 --> 01:09:43,664
indulge in the

2172
01:09:43,664 --> 01:09:44,231
>> I used to pay $780 for

2173
01:09:44,231 --> 01:09:46,231
MySpace rent.

2174
01:09:46,333 --> 01:09:49,333
>> In moment that on their

2175
01:09:50,337 --> 01:09:51,370
o'Malley's, any main call, you

2176
01:09:51,370 --> 01:09:53,272
settles yet meant that on the

2177
01:09:53,272 --> 01:09:54,641
inside most elite. My.

2178
01:09:54,641 --> 01:09:56,443
>> And they just they increase

2179
01:09:56,443 --> 01:09:58,412
it to a is that, you know, is

2180
01:09:58,412 --> 01:09:59,790
in Spanish, Mexican Spanish

2181
01:09:59,790 --> 01:10:00,981
that I can't even say. But

2182
01:10:00,981 --> 01:10:01,415
from one day to the next they

2183
01:10:01,415 --> 01:10:02,950
increased it.

2184
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:03,516
>> Only double by wind

2185
01:10:03,516 --> 01:10:05,516
overnight. Yeah, man,

2186
01:10:07,187 --> 01:10:09,187
Sacramento.

2187
01:10:11,425 --> 01:10:12,192
>> I called Sacramento up.

2188
01:10:12,192 --> 01:10:13,560
>> Macomb against Sacramento

2189
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:14,294
Judge will come at the end.

2190
01:10:14,294 --> 01:10:16,330
Can double the U.S. Have We'll

2191
01:10:16,330 --> 01:10:19,399
get several not gone by in

2192
01:10:19,399 --> 01:10:20,670
Wailua. Casey Kenney a and

2193
01:10:20,670 --> 01:10:21,680
give me the lesson for love

2194
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:22,200
it. But there's also report

2195
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,200
that.

2196
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,106
>> So I called the company I

2197
01:10:26,106 --> 01:10:26,774
called Harmony Communities.

2198
01:10:26,774 --> 01:10:27,474
And when they told me what

2199
01:10:27,474 --> 01:10:28,909
their response actually was,

2200
01:10:28,909 --> 01:10:29,577
it was said that we could find

2201
01:10:29,577 --> 01:10:31,512
another place to live. That

2202
01:10:31,512 --> 01:10:31,879
was the response that they

2203
01:10:31,879 --> 01:10:33,747
gave me.

2204
01:10:33,747 --> 01:10:36,283
>> important key will come But

2205
01:10:36,283 --> 01:10:37,116
I was today in Milan.

2206
01:10:37,116 --> 01:10:37,818
>> And I came here looking for

2207
01:10:37,818 --> 01:10:39,687
support, hoping that you can

2208
01:10:39,687 --> 01:10:41,522
give that to us. And to me.

2209
01:10:41,522 --> 01:10:42,156
>> When I thought that, but I

2210
01:10:42,156 --> 01:10:44,556
>> Very good afternoon to

2211
01:10:48,195 --> 01:10:49,697
everybody.

2212
01:10:49,697 --> 01:10:50,630
>> Prices per report, senior

2213
01:10:50,630 --> 01:10:54,230
Next. We'll go to Alex tough

2214
01:10:57,938 --> 01:10:58,639
Ina and then Dwane think Alex.

2215
01:10:58,639 --> 01:11:01,390
>> Mayor and council members,

2216
01:11:01,909 --> 01:11:02,876
thank you for leading. Letting

2217
01:11:02,876 --> 01:11:04,778
Alex, from the latest in a

2218
01:11:04,778 --> 01:11:06,147
county. I'm here to share a

2219
01:11:06,147 --> 01:11:06,847
statement from the resident of

2220
01:11:06,847 --> 01:11:10,447
West. Plus, that was not able

2221
01:11:10,751 --> 01:11:12,752
to make it today. So bear with

2222
01:11:12,752 --> 01:11:14,922
me as I read both in Spanish

2223
01:11:14,922 --> 01:11:15,656
and English, you know, but can

2224
01:11:15,656 --> 01:11:18,591
stay in a Houston neighborhood

2225
01:11:18,591 --> 01:11:19,293
West. Plus, everything you

2226
01:11:19,293 --> 01:11:20,995
need those. Gun and bless it.

2227
01:11:20,995 --> 01:11:21,662
And center the U.S. On news.

2228
01:11:21,662 --> 01:11:24,932
My name is Christina. I'm a

2229
01:11:24,932 --> 01:11:25,366
member of West. The senior

2230
01:11:25,366 --> 01:11:27,366
Sunni. Those.

2231
01:11:28,703 --> 01:11:32,303
>> And I have been a member

2232
01:11:35,710 --> 01:11:36,444
>> resident of plus for 10

2233
01:11:36,444 --> 01:11:37,111
years, the moon those said the

2234
01:11:37,111 --> 01:11:40,111
buck somewhere. Is the idea

2235
01:11:41,150 --> 01:11:41,749
banks somewhat annoying. He is

2236
01:11:41,749 --> 01:11:42,383
the out in media. Me from list

2237
01:11:42,383 --> 01:11:45,383
that you that, you know,

2238
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,720
personally that the I live in

2239
01:11:49,923 --> 01:11:50,625
one of the 17 parks that

2240
01:11:50,625 --> 01:11:52,260
mobile home parks in the area

2241
01:11:52,260 --> 01:11:53,928
that of the plan that we're

2242
01:11:53,928 --> 01:11:54,695
talking today. And this park

2243
01:11:54,695 --> 01:11:56,264
has brought me the ability to

2244
01:11:56,264 --> 01:11:57,198
have stability with my family.

2245
01:11:57,198 --> 01:12:01,398
And I and the ability to live

2246
01:12:01,735 --> 01:12:03,171
in Sonoma County. Because of

2247
01:12:03,171 --> 01:12:04,438
the that is the condo we had

2248
01:12:04,438 --> 01:12:07,675
make media. And with just one

2249
01:12:07,675 --> 01:12:08,376
us as he visited bad local me

2250
01:12:08,376 --> 01:12:11,376
that that's part of business.

2251
01:12:12,513 --> 01:12:13,280
It The cost of living here in

2252
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:14,615
county is very expensive and

2253
01:12:14,615 --> 01:12:17,510
it's very hard for many

2254
01:12:17,510 --> 01:12:17,752
families like mine to afford

2255
01:12:17,752 --> 01:12:20,152
food, transportation and many

2256
01:12:22,457 --> 01:12:24,225
unnecessary costs. Does the

2257
01:12:24,225 --> 01:12:26,561
high season got to do that by

2258
01:12:26,561 --> 01:12:30,298
the King? Let me Saints w that

2259
01:12:30,298 --> 01:12:30,965
I went to a that continue that

2260
01:12:30,965 --> 01:12:31,599
investment which is in the

2261
01:12:31,599 --> 01:12:34,599
South. There is a center

2262
01:12:36,537 --> 01:12:37,572
squatters centers on that is

2263
01:12:37,572 --> 01:12:39,720
yeah, out of it as close as

2264
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:39,774
model is that by the cake. So

2265
01:12:39,774 --> 01:12:42,777
but think I knew it was nose

2266
01:12:42,777 --> 01:12:45,777
down. Ever since army charge

2267
01:12:46,347 --> 01:12:46,681
of this park.

2268
01:12:46,681 --> 01:12:48,681
>> The.

2269
01:12:48,916 --> 01:12:49,984
>> The threat of instability

2270
01:12:49,984 --> 01:12:53,521
for us as a park has become a

2271
01:12:53,521 --> 01:12:54,488
reality for every day.

2272
01:12:54,488 --> 01:12:57,488
Residents, many of our rents

2273
01:12:58,960 --> 01:12:59,661
have been raise $2030400. They

2274
01:12:59,661 --> 01:13:00,395
have taken away amenities of

2275
01:13:00,395 --> 01:13:02,363
the park, including trees that

2276
01:13:02,363 --> 01:13:05,963
been there for 30 years and to

2277
01:13:07,434 --> 01:13:11,340
provide us shade this. Is it

2278
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:11,939
the most? Maybe a significant

2279
01:13:11,939 --> 01:13:12,941
is that pretty soon. Let us

2280
01:13:12,941 --> 01:13:14,709
cause more delays in getting

2281
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:15,410
those Santas that Kaepernick,

2282
01:13:15,410 --> 01:13:18,410
what lenders said, are going

2283
01:13:20,748 --> 01:13:21,682
listen to We need significant

2284
01:13:21,682 --> 01:13:22,550
protections.

2285
01:13:22,550 --> 01:13:23,752
>> For our community and our

2286
01:13:23,752 --> 01:13:24,486
mobile homes before any plan

2287
01:13:24,486 --> 01:13:27,550
is approved for south of Santa

2288
01:13:27,550 --> 01:13:27,689
Rosa.

2289
01:13:27,689 --> 01:13:30,890
>> No vending. That's the

2290
01:13:31,226 --> 01:13:32,694
company that I and that could

2291
01:13:32,694 --> 01:13:34,796
get out of the sense that

2292
01:13:34,796 --> 01:13:35,330
united don't sell our

2293
01:13:35,330 --> 01:13:36,310
communities and our

2294
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:36,565
neighborhoods just for people

2295
01:13:36,565 --> 01:13:38,965
that want to enrich

2296
01:13:42,771 --> 01:13:45,140
themselves. Working with was

2297
01:13:45,140 --> 01:13:46,410
on the if know anyone missing

2298
01:13:46,410 --> 01:13:48,677
that you can only We don't

2299
01:13:48,677 --> 01:13:49,611
have anywhere to go. There's

2300
01:13:49,611 --> 01:13:52,110
no affordable neighborhoods to

2301
01:13:56,184 --> 01:13:57,218
go to in this county. This

2302
01:13:57,218 --> 01:13:59,588
assume to wouldn't can do to

2303
01:13:59,588 --> 01:14:00,689
spend get on those in a way

2304
01:14:00,689 --> 01:14:01,456
and throws more one in for

2305
01:14:01,456 --> 01:14:04,456
descendants. But I can on

2306
01:14:06,728 --> 01:14:09,364
those But I and in the seek an

2307
01:14:09,364 --> 01:14:10,432
honest I was given a subtle

2308
01:14:10,432 --> 01:14:12,801
about it. This is an urgent

2309
01:14:12,801 --> 01:14:13,668
matter and I'm asking the

2310
01:14:13,668 --> 01:14:16,505
county of Sonoma and the city

2311
01:14:16,505 --> 01:14:17,205
of Santa Rosa to put on

2312
01:14:17,205 --> 01:14:20,205
protection. So we don't have

2313
01:14:21,109 --> 01:14:21,810
to leave our community. It's

2314
01:14:21,810 --> 01:14:25,847
been a look at them want them

2315
01:14:25,847 --> 01:14:26,548
used make the Simon you the

2316
01:14:26,548 --> 01:14:28,784
gag I hope you take into

2317
01:14:28,784 --> 01:14:29,485
account my to my statement in

2318
01:14:29,485 --> 01:14:32,521
my testimony and that we find

2319
01:14:32,521 --> 01:14:33,188
a solution. Thank you.

2320
01:14:33,188 --> 01:14:35,588
>> Thank you, Alex Delfina.

2321
01:14:38,460 --> 01:14:40,860
And then wane Delfina.

2322
01:14:43,498 --> 01:14:44,232
>> actually don't My

2323
01:14:44,232 --> 01:14:46,232
apologies. Good afternoon.

2324
01:14:46,968 --> 01:14:49,137
Hearing Council members. Thank

2325
01:14:49,137 --> 01:14:50,539
you for allowing me to speak

2326
01:14:50,539 --> 01:14:51,239
today. My name is enough

2327
01:14:51,239 --> 01:14:54,239
Loriano. I'm a caseworker at

2328
01:14:54,543 --> 01:14:55,243
legal aid of Sonoma County. I

2329
01:14:55,243 --> 01:14:55,944
will be sharing a common will

2330
01:14:55,944 --> 01:14:59,514
be in Spanish. So if and that

2331
01:14:59,514 --> 01:15:00,248
the translator could be ready.

2332
01:15:00,248 --> 01:15:03,752
And from tenant, I have one of

2333
01:15:03,752 --> 01:15:04,919
the local parks.

2334
01:15:04,919 --> 01:15:05,921
>> Yes, I'm ready. Please go

2335
01:15:05,921 --> 01:15:07,489
ahead. And if you could please

2336
01:15:07,489 --> 01:15:08,157
speak in short sentences.

2337
01:15:08,157 --> 01:15:10,859
Appreciate it. Thank you so

2338
01:15:10,859 --> 01:15:11,794
much. Okay. Now he's.

2339
01:15:11,794 --> 01:15:15,764
>> My name is or what I am a

2340
01:15:15,764 --> 01:15:18,764
leader at Western Plaza United

2341
01:15:21,403 --> 01:15:22,137
Neighbors. The one in the

2342
01:15:22,137 --> 01:15:25,137
state openness and revealing a

2343
01:15:26,408 --> 01:15:27,510
bucket put we to say sign us.

2344
01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:28,644
>> I live in district 3 in

2345
01:15:28,644 --> 01:15:32,244
been living in the park for 22

2346
01:15:33,182 --> 01:15:33,849
years.

2347
01:15:33,849 --> 01:15:35,151
>> I am a citizen just like

2348
01:15:35,151 --> 01:15:35,751
any other person. And I am

2349
01:15:35,751 --> 01:15:38,151
asking for respect and

2350
01:15:40,156 --> 01:15:40,790
dignity. Because I've been

2351
01:15:40,790 --> 01:15:43,790
living here and pain for

2352
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:46,729
friend. And it is my right to

2353
01:15:46,729 --> 01:15:47,797
be able to have some were

2354
01:15:47,797 --> 01:15:49,797
comfortable and stability

2355
01:15:54,937 --> 01:15:56,172
where I'm living. Does it can

2356
01:15:56,172 --> 01:15:58,673
harm an isis ocado their lives

2357
01:15:58,673 --> 01:15:59,375
doing that. But it on this

2358
01:15:59,375 --> 01:16:00,943
place on the and those commit

2359
01:16:00,943 --> 01:16:01,610
not believe that the on the as

2360
01:16:01,610 --> 01:16:04,610
those important that. But I

2361
01:16:06,382 --> 01:16:07,883
mean,

2362
01:16:07,883 --> 01:16:08,584
>> ever since harmony to place

2363
01:16:08,584 --> 01:16:12,184
of the management of the car

2364
01:16:12,688 --> 01:16:14,656
of the park. The reality of

2365
01:16:14,656 --> 01:16:18,256
being removed from my home has

2366
01:16:20,897 --> 01:16:21,630
been a daily reminder for me.

2367
01:16:21,630 --> 01:16:23,933
>> Lucas to pass on coming up

2368
01:16:23,933 --> 01:16:27,703
us on as as the temple people

2369
01:16:27,703 --> 01:16:28,304
going into it. He died emv

2370
01:16:28,304 --> 01:16:29,405
medal got bet on total

2371
01:16:29,405 --> 01:16:32,975
sidewall is on we will. And so

2372
01:16:32,975 --> 01:16:34,610
lieu of that just personas

2373
01:16:34,610 --> 01:16:38,210
units to income of those. What

2374
01:16:38,447 --> 01:16:39,114
body with the Bulls. Yemeni,

2375
01:16:39,114 --> 01:16:42,114
though, the let the system,

2376
01:16:45,788 --> 01:16:48,788
which was scene in bucket.

2377
01:16:49,580 --> 01:16:50,393
>> So what has been happening

2378
01:16:50,393 --> 01:16:51,694
is that lately is been that

2379
01:16:51,694 --> 01:16:52,995
they have been.

2380
01:16:52,995 --> 01:16:54,995
>> Could up?

2381
01:16:55,899 --> 01:16:57,899
>> All of the

2382
01:16:59,302 --> 01:17:02,902
>> trees where I live. And I

2383
01:17:02,972 --> 01:17:06,142
feel like this is creating a

2384
01:17:06,142 --> 01:17:07,477
lot of Tom is security for me.

2385
01:17:07,477 --> 01:17:08,144
And second of all, a lot of

2386
01:17:08,144 --> 01:17:10,544
people are leaving because

2387
01:17:12,681 --> 01:17:13,383
they are depressed.

2388
01:17:13,383 --> 01:17:14,500
>> They are just leaving

2389
01:17:14,500 --> 01:17:17,500
because their very sad with

2390
01:17:19,255 --> 01:17:19,889
what's going on.

2391
01:17:19,889 --> 01:17:22,289
>> As this event, solely

2392
01:17:22,992 --> 01:17:23,659
Moses, but those cement, the

2393
01:17:23,659 --> 01:17:26,950
appear to be. So does that

2394
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:26,763
include another? The Sonoma

2395
01:17:26,763 --> 01:17:28,631
that I have, but a solution

2396
01:17:28,631 --> 01:17:31,834
that is the problem. Not so

2397
01:17:31,834 --> 01:17:34,304
busy on a city on.

2398
01:17:34,304 --> 01:17:37,304
>> Okay. And this is urgent

2399
01:17:38,575 --> 01:17:39,843
and what we want this to

2400
01:17:39,843 --> 01:17:42,243
>> County board of directors

2401
01:17:43,113 --> 01:17:46,115
to do is do the which we are

2402
01:17:46,115 --> 01:17:48,115
requesting.

2403
01:17:49,619 --> 01:17:50,253
>> Number what in many the so

2404
01:17:50,253 --> 01:17:52,422
see But because the cause

2405
01:17:52,422 --> 01:17:53,230
moving this. But every and

2406
01:17:53,230 --> 01:17:54,900
this place me this was

2407
01:17:54,900 --> 01:17:56,900
incident,

2408
01:17:57,427 --> 01:18:01,270
>> We would like some kind of

2409
01:18:02,498 --> 01:18:04,534
a norm to say that we cannot

2410
01:18:04,534 --> 01:18:06,302
be removed from our home, be

2411
01:18:06,302 --> 01:18:09,302
displaced from it for the

2412
01:18:11,775 --> 01:18:12,475
residents.

2413
01:18:12,475 --> 01:18:14,475
>> Therefore, without loading

2414
01:18:14,678 --> 01:18:15,712
onto sublease they're looking

2415
01:18:15,712 --> 01:18:16,413
at is but in the dome and

2416
01:18:16,413 --> 01:18:19,649
those how was he was thinking

2417
01:18:19,649 --> 01:18:21,649
at

2418
01:18:21,818 --> 01:18:23,186
>> To reinforce the rental

2419
01:18:23,186 --> 01:18:26,786
ordinance so that we can avoid

2420
01:18:28,391 --> 01:18:29,593
to abusive rent, increase.

2421
01:18:29,593 --> 01:18:30,293
>> Could add incentive because

2422
01:18:30,293 --> 01:18:33,430
you're in a specific put the

2423
01:18:33,430 --> 01:18:35,320
down, put on those. But is

2424
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:35,698
U.S. Has movie listened and

2425
01:18:35,698 --> 01:18:38,535
the law, annoying could put

2426
01:18:38,535 --> 01:18:39,235
American, though the Sonoma

2427
01:18:39,235 --> 01:18:41,710
going be in that. They had, I

2428
01:18:41,710 --> 01:18:41,772
was the most you on the be in

2429
01:18:41,772 --> 01:18:45,372
the even though they time and

2430
01:18:45,842 --> 01:18:46,709
economy ca.

2431
01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:48,878
>> And for there to be some

2432
01:18:48,878 --> 01:18:51,878
kind of a Sony ordinance

2433
01:18:54,985 --> 01:18:55,819
place. 2 protect people in the

2434
01:18:55,819 --> 01:18:56,553
mobile home parks in the

2435
01:18:56,553 --> 01:18:58,221
unincorporated areas of Sonoma

2436
01:18:58,221 --> 01:19:00,221
County.

2437
01:19:00,490 --> 01:19:04,900
>> Thank you. Do for you now,

2438
01:19:12,135 --> 01:19:12,835
MR. MR. Do 2 minutes to

2439
01:19:12,835 --> 01:19:13,537
>> Hello, my name is Dwayne

2440
01:19:13,537 --> 01:19:16,740
DeWitt on from Rose. And I'd

2441
01:19:16,740 --> 01:19:17,374
like for you, folks too, Kim

2442
01:19:17,374 --> 01:19:18,742
possible direction to the

2443
01:19:18,742 --> 01:19:20,911
staff to go back to the

2444
01:19:20,911 --> 01:19:22,246
community. The preferred draft

2445
01:19:22,246 --> 01:19:23,981
is not something that many in

2446
01:19:23,981 --> 01:19:25,949
the community are supportive

2447
01:19:25,949 --> 01:19:28,850
of. As you can see by the

2448
01:19:28,850 --> 01:19:29,860
attendance tonight, there are

2449
01:19:29,860 --> 01:19:30,621
many folks who've come here

2450
01:19:30,621 --> 01:19:31,788
and didn't understand exactly

2451
01:19:31,788 --> 01:19:34,188
how this preferred alternative

2452
01:19:35,358 --> 01:19:36,994
has been coming forward. I

2453
01:19:36,994 --> 01:19:38,428
have attended meetings of this

2454
01:19:38,428 --> 01:19:40,828
South Sanford, Santa Rosa,

2455
01:19:41,980 --> 01:19:42,999
specific plan. And felt it was

2456
01:19:42,999 --> 01:19:44,535
perform It was like a

2457
01:19:44,535 --> 01:19:45,236
presentation that wasn't

2458
01:19:45,236 --> 01:19:47,237
really interested in what the

2459
01:19:47,237 --> 01:19:49,600
community wanted to say. It's

2460
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:50,740
a matter of fact. I wasn't

2461
01:19:50,740 --> 01:19:51,775
invited back and I understand

2462
01:19:51,775 --> 01:19:53,430
that from the city's

2463
01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:53,744
perspective because they don't

2464
01:19:53,744 --> 01:19:54,478
want to hear something that's

2465
01:19:54,478 --> 01:19:56,180
different than the way they're

2466
01:19:56,180 --> 01:19:59,850
going to do it. But if you

2467
01:19:59,850 --> 01:20:01,752
saying that this is a

2468
01:20:01,752 --> 01:20:02,453
community vision you need to

2469
01:20:02,453 --> 01:20:03,587
have with the community wants

2470
01:20:03,587 --> 01:20:06,457
to say and have the community

2471
01:20:06,457 --> 01:20:08,426
bring forward their desired

2472
01:20:08,426 --> 01:20:10,194
preferred alternative, not

2473
01:20:10,194 --> 01:20:10,895
staffs. So this is one of the

2474
01:20:10,895 --> 01:20:12,963
dilemmas we face here at the

2475
01:20:12,963 --> 01:20:15,232
city of Santa Rosa. It's about

2476
01:20:15,232 --> 01:20:17,301
planning with the community,

2477
01:20:17,301 --> 01:20:18,669
not what you're going to do to

2478
01:20:18,669 --> 01:20:22,269
them. But what you might do

2479
01:20:22,606 --> 01:20:23,340
with them for them. Those are

2480
01:20:23,340 --> 01:20:25,343
distinct alternatives which do

2481
01:20:25,343 --> 01:20:27,178
not happen here very often.

2482
01:20:27,178 --> 01:20:28,212
It's a matter of fact. The

2483
01:20:28,212 --> 01:20:30,881
city staff directs you and how

2484
01:20:30,881 --> 01:20:31,582
they're going to take things.

2485
01:20:31,582 --> 01:20:34,818
And then you give it a little

2486
01:20:34,818 --> 01:20:35,553
chance. A little area here.

2487
01:20:35,553 --> 01:20:37,555
You know what? We call it. You

2488
01:20:37,555 --> 01:20:38,255
do the happy talk and you blow

2489
01:20:38,255 --> 01:20:38,956
sunshine up our tailpipes and

2490
01:20:38,956 --> 01:20:41,192
say, oh, yeah, this is going

2491
01:20:41,192 --> 01:20:41,892
to get good. It's a matter of

2492
01:20:41,892 --> 01:20:44,862
fact. This is not happen and

2493
01:20:44,862 --> 01:20:46,530
good for us, especially for

2494
01:20:46,530 --> 01:20:47,197
extra housing in the places

2495
01:20:47,197 --> 01:20:49,133
where it's needed. I don't

2496
01:20:49,133 --> 01:20:51,235
know any of these folks here.

2497
01:20:51,235 --> 01:20:54,171
So they listen me to come down

2498
01:20:54,171 --> 01:20:55,206
here. I'm down here because I

2499
01:20:55,206 --> 01:20:55,839
know Roseann gets mistreated

2500
01:20:55,839 --> 01:20:58,175
South Santa Rosa. Marlins

2501
01:20:58,175 --> 01:20:59,430
going to get mistreated and

2502
01:20:59,430 --> 01:21:01,546
you don't even have the money

2503
01:21:01,546 --> 01:21:02,646
to take care of City Hall. Let

2504
01:21:02,646 --> 01:21:04,182
alone a whole big section of

2505
01:21:04,182 --> 01:21:06,583
Saint Rose Avenue as you go

2506
01:21:06,583 --> 01:21:07,885
forward. So please back to the

2507
01:21:07,885 --> 01:21:08,585
drawing board a couple more

2508
01:21:08,585 --> 01:21:09,320
meetings. It won't make much

2509
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:10,988
difference. But at least it'll

2510
01:21:10,988 --> 01:21:14,588
make us feel like you might

2511
01:21:14,792 --> 01:21:15,493
have listened. Thank you.

2512
01:21:15,493 --> 01:21:16,694
>> Thank you, MR. DeWitt. Is

2513
01:21:16,694 --> 01:21:17,662
there anybody else in council

2514
01:21:17,662 --> 01:21:19,960
chambers who wishes to speak?

2515
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:19,964
I see one person at the

2516
01:21:19,964 --> 01:21:20,665
microphone. If you do is to

2517
01:21:20,665 --> 01:21:21,265
speak, please be making your

2518
01:21:21,265 --> 01:21:24,265
way towards one of the

2519
01:21:26,503 --> 01:21:27,237
podiums. Go ahead.

2520
01:21:27,237 --> 01:21:27,939
>> My name's in the blank. I'm

2521
01:21:27,939 --> 01:21:28,606
interpreting for that aside.

2522
01:21:28,606 --> 01:21:31,600
Neighbor at Western Mobile

2523
01:21:33,677 --> 01:21:34,478
home park.

2524
01:21:34,478 --> 01:21:35,179
>> Witness, that is me numbers

2525
01:21:35,179 --> 01:21:38,282
that is sent even won an idea

2526
01:21:38,282 --> 01:21:39,516
that I've been, you know, some

2527
01:21:39,516 --> 01:21:40,251
federal, men go to prison

2528
01:21:40,251 --> 01:21:43,251
Jaime Diaz about gizmo, mobile

2529
01:21:44,155 --> 01:21:45,589
home. Was there.

2530
01:21:45,589 --> 01:21:47,989
>> Good afternoon to everyone.

2531
01:21:48,159 --> 01:21:49,727
My name is that and I live on

2532
01:21:49,727 --> 01:21:50,428
Santa Rosa Avenue and icon

2533
01:21:50,428 --> 01:21:52,828
representing the families of

2534
01:21:54,432 --> 01:21:56,534
Western Mobile home Park.

2535
01:21:56,534 --> 01:21:58,670
>> It's almost like switch on

2536
01:21:58,670 --> 01:21:59,370
I was little boys, this most

2537
01:21:59,370 --> 01:22:01,906
both which end with the Vols

2538
01:22:01,906 --> 01:22:03,341
to see more news.

2539
01:22:03,341 --> 01:22:05,943
>> We are here listening to

2540
01:22:05,943 --> 01:22:06,678
these new proposals and we

2541
01:22:06,678 --> 01:22:09,678
asking where pleading with you

2542
01:22:10,148 --> 01:22:11,316
that you hear our testimonies.

2543
01:22:11,316 --> 01:22:13,551
>> It's some of us on the

2544
01:22:13,551 --> 01:22:14,184
board, a body of conflict, the

2545
01:22:14,184 --> 01:22:14,919
skin, most and least one

2546
01:22:14,919 --> 01:22:17,488
thought. You've got that. This

2547
01:22:17,488 --> 01:22:19,124
is an in built on.

2548
01:22:19,124 --> 01:22:19,957
>> We have been experiencing

2549
01:22:19,957 --> 01:22:22,357
several conflicts that have

2550
01:22:23,694 --> 01:22:24,429
result that have the have not

2551
01:22:24,429 --> 01:22:25,130
been resolved and every day

2552
01:22:25,130 --> 01:22:28,130
things are getting worse for

2553
01:22:29,967 --> 01:22:31,967
us.

2554
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:32,737
>> It's the most being means

2555
01:22:32,737 --> 01:22:33,471
this enough family for me to

2556
01:22:33,471 --> 01:22:34,204
put by those, you know, timing

2557
01:22:34,204 --> 01:22:38,143
was good. Look us that give up

2558
01:22:38,143 --> 01:22:39,210
a set.

2559
01:22:39,210 --> 01:22:40,578
>> I'm seeing my own family

2560
01:22:40,578 --> 01:22:41,246
worried and my neighbors and

2561
01:22:41,246 --> 01:22:44,246
we don't quite know what's

2562
01:22:45,884 --> 01:22:46,818
going to happen next.

2563
01:22:46,818 --> 01:22:47,751
>> I went to a family of Qasem

2564
01:22:47,751 --> 01:22:51,189
a chill in all of con of the

2565
01:22:51,189 --> 01:22:52,224
fee can sent a

2566
01:22:52,224 --> 01:22:53,191
>> We're seeing so many

2567
01:22:53,191 --> 01:22:53,892
changes in our park and

2568
01:22:53,892 --> 01:22:57,492
harmony does not let us know

2569
01:23:00,498 --> 01:23:01,198
what these changes are.

2570
01:23:01,198 --> 01:23:01,933
>> Have money. So don't look

2571
01:23:01,933 --> 01:23:02,634
on local most important number

2572
01:23:02,634 --> 01:23:03,367
8, but also to know the name

2573
01:23:03,367 --> 01:23:06,738
listening or not points that I

2574
01:23:06,738 --> 01:23:07,372
just but I want this.

2575
01:23:07,372 --> 01:23:09,772
>> They don't they don't

2576
01:23:10,775 --> 01:23:12,100
notify us of the changes and

2577
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:14,780
harmony. We don't know who

2578
01:23:14,780 --> 01:23:16,681
they are and then they don't

2579
01:23:16,681 --> 01:23:19,681
respond to. Our questions are

2580
01:23:22,119 --> 01:23:24,890
worries. And we have

2581
01:23:24,890 --> 01:23:27,959
>> bus and I get w let's buy

2582
01:23:27,959 --> 01:23:29,293
tickets. But and need

2583
01:23:29,293 --> 01:23:31,293
>> We already experienced 3

2584
01:23:32,363 --> 01:23:33,297
managers overseeing our park.

2585
01:23:33,297 --> 01:23:36,297
But those people have left

2586
01:23:37,970 --> 01:23:38,737
already.

2587
01:23:38,737 --> 01:23:39,437
>> Well, the most of got to

2588
01:23:39,437 --> 01:23:41,437
northamptonshire non. They'll

2589
01:23:41,907 --> 01:23:42,908
be in.

2590
01:23:42,908 --> 01:23:43,608
>> We can really see that

2591
01:23:43,608 --> 01:23:46,608
something is not working well

2592
01:23:47,912 --> 01:23:48,480
here. It's something first

2593
01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:49,181
one. And then Monday

2594
01:23:49,181 --> 01:23:51,816
Ninamandell seem and I get in

2595
01:23:51,816 --> 01:23:54,216
which program must months.

2596
01:23:55,854 --> 01:23:56,855
>> You know, without a manager

2597
01:23:56,855 --> 01:23:58,123
there so we are without

2598
01:23:58,123 --> 01:23:59,725
manager or anybody. The care

2599
01:23:59,725 --> 01:24:00,426
of the management of the park.

2600
01:24:00,426 --> 01:24:01,600
We are seeing a lot of

2601
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,460
problems happening in the

2602
01:24:05,364 --> 01:24:06,640
park.

2603
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:06,698
>> Putin momentum by the most

2604
01:24:06,698 --> 01:24:09,400
to him. Any one. Guinness

2605
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,136
coach and a struggle says.

2606
01:24:11,136 --> 01:24:11,804
>> So now we are asking about

2607
01:24:11,804 --> 01:24:14,204
harmony or somebody really

2608
01:24:16,107 --> 01:24:17,242
listen to our voices.

2609
01:24:17,242 --> 01:24:18,243
>> Forget the name that.

2610
01:24:18,243 --> 01:24:18,910
Unfair the most predicts him.

2611
01:24:18,910 --> 01:24:20,612
But I was just I mean, yes,

2612
01:24:20,612 --> 01:24:23,549
good ss. Because we have a

2613
01:24:23,549 --> 01:24:26,318
right to a roof. And we are

2614
01:24:26,318 --> 01:24:27,219
asking protection for our

2615
01:24:27,219 --> 01:24:28,200
family and we are fighting for

2616
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,488
our homes. Thank you for your

2617
01:24:30,488 --> 01:24:31,900
attention.

2618
01:24:31,900 --> 01:24:33,490
>> Thank you. Reena and

2619
01:24:36,294 --> 01:24:36,995
Theresa Fred.

2620
01:24:36,995 --> 01:24:37,696
>> Good afternoon. Members of

2621
01:24:37,696 --> 01:24:39,531
the City Council. My name is

2622
01:24:39,531 --> 01:24:41,399
Fred, all about come. The

2623
01:24:41,399 --> 01:24:42,101
co-chair of the Santa Rosa,

2624
01:24:42,101 --> 01:24:44,501
Sonoma County, naacp Housing

2625
01:24:45,571 --> 01:24:46,405
Committee. And we didn't quite

2626
01:24:46,405 --> 01:24:47,239
get our letter out in time,

2627
01:24:47,239 --> 01:24:50,839
but I'm going quote a couple

2628
01:24:53,278 --> 01:24:56,148
points from the letter the 2

2629
01:24:56,148 --> 01:24:57,316
census tracks in this South

2630
01:24:57,316 --> 01:25:00,316
Center of the speed. Specific

2631
01:25:01,587 --> 01:25:02,654
plan are 4, 5%, black. Sonoma

2632
01:25:02,654 --> 01:25:04,356
County and Santa Rosa are much

2633
01:25:04,356 --> 01:25:08,556
less than that of the Bay area

2634
01:25:10,963 --> 01:25:11,564
percent of black and 6%. The

2635
01:25:11,564 --> 01:25:13,564
concentration of black

2636
01:25:13,999 --> 01:25:15,660
residents in the plan, areas

2637
01:25:15,660 --> 01:25:16,335
of significant and warns

2638
01:25:16,335 --> 01:25:17,360
deliberate intention to

2639
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,360
preserving community housing,

2640
01:25:23,676 --> 01:25:25,578
stability and opportunity. So

2641
01:25:25,578 --> 01:25:26,512
Santa Rosa specific plan

2642
01:25:26,512 --> 01:25:28,481
represent an extraordinary

2643
01:25:28,481 --> 01:25:30,481
opportunity to demonstrate

2644
01:25:30,482 --> 01:25:31,217
what equitable equitable

2645
01:25:31,217 --> 01:25:31,951
development can look like. One

2646
01:25:31,951 --> 01:25:33,685
community's most vulnerable to

2647
01:25:33,685 --> 01:25:34,353
displacement are considered

2648
01:25:34,353 --> 01:25:37,353
before and not after major

2649
01:25:39,459 --> 01:25:40,793
investment. Cursed my switch

2650
01:25:40,793 --> 01:25:44,993
hats and on some from my own

2651
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:48,835
letter here that on page, 29

2652
01:25:48,835 --> 01:25:50,803
of and the displacement

2653
01:25:50,803 --> 01:25:51,403
strategy. There's a lot of

2654
01:25:51,403 --> 01:25:53,403
options and ordinances

2655
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:54,740
presented by staff. And

2656
01:25:54,740 --> 01:25:55,575
there's also been quite a few

2657
01:25:55,575 --> 01:25:57,710
presented by members of the

2658
01:25:57,710 --> 01:26:00,346
public. I would suggest then

2659
01:26:00,346 --> 01:26:01,381
in the program and policy

2660
01:26:01,381 --> 01:26:02,481
development study, which by

2661
01:26:02,481 --> 01:26:03,883
the way, was not listed. And

2662
01:26:03,883 --> 01:26:05,685
one of the next steps of

2663
01:26:05,685 --> 01:26:08,685
what's coming next. I found

2664
01:26:09,789 --> 01:26:12,189
that so interesting. Staff

2665
01:26:12,692 --> 01:26:14,594
could could put grid to show

2666
01:26:14,594 --> 01:26:15,561
all these things and the

2667
01:26:15,561 --> 01:26:16,262
public's ideas to and what

2668
01:26:16,262 --> 01:26:17,563
they would cost, who they're

2669
01:26:17,563 --> 01:26:21,163
going to benefit. And a couple

2670
01:26:21,801 --> 01:26:23,336
of. Things here is I live in a

2671
01:26:23,336 --> 01:26:24,537
mobile home park. I wonder

2672
01:26:24,537 --> 01:26:26,739
when our park is going to be

2673
01:26:26,739 --> 01:26:28,508
next. I don't think preserving

2674
01:26:28,508 --> 01:26:29,108
land use designation isn't a

2675
01:26:29,108 --> 01:26:30,610
few needed closure in

2676
01:26:30,610 --> 01:26:31,711
conversion ordinance update

2677
01:26:31,711 --> 01:26:34,111
and strengthening and rent

2678
01:26:35,715 --> 01:26:36,950
stabilization, strengthening.

2679
01:26:36,950 --> 01:26:38,952
Plan a little more balance

2680
01:26:38,952 --> 01:26:41,352
with the socioeconomic pieces.

2681
01:26:41,955 --> 01:26:42,688
>> Thank you, Fred.

2682
01:26:42,688 --> 01:26:45,688
>> Are there others in council

2683
01:26:47,193 --> 01:26:48,595
chambers who wish to speak?

2684
01:26:48,595 --> 01:26:51,431
Seeing no one making their way

2685
01:26:51,431 --> 01:26:52,132
to the podium. Let's go

2686
01:26:52,132 --> 01:26:54,367
online. If you are online, if

2687
01:26:54,367 --> 01:26:55,101
you could raise your hand or

2688
01:26:55,101 --> 01:26:56,936
press star, resume host, we'll

2689
01:26:56,936 --> 01:26:57,536
we'll call on You. MADAM Zoo

2690
01:26:57,536 --> 01:26:59,772
host. We have any hands

2691
01:26:59,772 --> 01:27:00,473
raised.

2692
01:27:00,473 --> 01:27:03,473
>> And seeing no hands raised

2693
01:27:04,577 --> 01:27:05,812
zoom.

2694
01:27:05,812 --> 01:27:07,781
>> Thank you. To close public

2695
01:27:07,781 --> 01:27:08,581
comment thank you to everybody

2696
01:27:08,581 --> 01:27:09,215
who came out today and made

2697
01:27:09,215 --> 01:27:12,215
and made those point made

2698
01:27:12,385 --> 01:27:13,860
those impassioned pleas to

2699
01:27:13,860 --> 01:27:15,488
bring back to council for

2700
01:27:15,488 --> 01:27:16,122
comments final direction.

2701
01:27:16,122 --> 01:27:18,522
>> Any thoughts from our

2702
01:27:22,629 --> 01:27:24,397
group? Question is from

2703
01:27:24,397 --> 01:27:25,365
>> thank to all the public

2704
01:27:25,365 --> 01:27:25,966
members of the public who came

2705
01:27:25,966 --> 01:27:27,934
out to speak and share

2706
01:27:27,934 --> 01:27:32,720
concerns of the U.S.. I'm just

2707
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,472
wondering if staff could

2708
01:27:34,507 --> 01:27:35,208
clarify the concerns around

2709
01:27:35,208 --> 01:27:37,608
the public's comments around

2710
01:27:40,460 --> 01:27:40,747
harmony in the management with

2711
01:27:40,747 --> 01:27:41,481
the matter before us as

2712
01:27:41,481 --> 01:27:44,481
understand the concerns of the

2713
01:27:44,985 --> 01:27:47,788
members of the public around

2714
01:27:47,788 --> 01:27:49,256
the management company. But

2715
01:27:49,256 --> 01:27:52,856
unclear how that ties into the

2716
01:27:53,894 --> 01:27:56,894
issue of the rezoning. The

2717
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,660
excuse me, the planned change.

2718
01:27:59,660 --> 01:28:00,133
>> Thank you for that

2719
01:28:00,133 --> 01:28:02,936
question. So, yeah, so what

2720
01:28:02,936 --> 01:28:04,838
we're focused on here is land

2721
01:28:04,838 --> 01:28:06,573
use policy that will

2722
01:28:06,573 --> 01:28:07,239
ultimately result in potential

2723
01:28:07,239 --> 01:28:09,639
zoning regulations, both in

2724
01:28:10,610 --> 01:28:11,678
the city and the county. You

2725
01:28:11,678 --> 01:28:12,779
know, the the the issues with

2726
01:28:12,779 --> 01:28:15,779
harmony that is with a

2727
01:28:16,383 --> 01:28:16,983
particular property owner, you

2728
01:28:16,983 --> 01:28:17,584
know, certainly we are

2729
01:28:17,584 --> 01:28:19,584
definitely hearing the

2730
01:28:21,521 --> 01:28:22,255
concerns raised by the

2731
01:28:22,255 --> 01:28:25,125
residents of those areas. We

2732
01:28:25,125 --> 01:28:27,525
have been conversation with

2733
01:28:28,295 --> 01:28:29,296
our housing division as Ms

2734
01:28:29,296 --> 01:28:30,300
Nicholson mentioned earlier,

2735
01:28:30,300 --> 01:28:32,432
we're going to be working with

2736
01:28:32,432 --> 01:28:36,320
the county cdc on, you know,

2737
01:28:36,369 --> 01:28:38,137
how we can help from a policy

2738
01:28:38,137 --> 01:28:38,872
perspective. But in a in

2739
01:28:38,872 --> 01:28:41,272
particular, with the residents

2740
01:28:41,641 --> 01:28:42,309
that are here today, they are

2741
01:28:42,309 --> 01:28:43,543
from a park that is located

2742
01:28:43,543 --> 01:28:45,543
within the county

2743
01:28:45,779 --> 01:28:48,179
jurisdiction. So there's not

2744
01:28:48,382 --> 01:28:49,483
at this point a lot that the

2745
01:28:49,483 --> 01:28:52,219
city can do from our

2746
01:28:52,219 --> 01:28:52,920
perspective to assist, but

2747
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,920
certainly in a going continue

2748
01:28:56,223 --> 01:28:58,623
those conversations with the

2749
01:28:58,892 --> 01:29:01,610
county. Okay. So the residents

2750
01:29:01,610 --> 01:29:02,830
who are here today live in the

2751
01:29:02,830 --> 01:29:04,830
park that

2752
01:29:05,566 --> 01:29:06,800
>> management harmony. Our

2753
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:07,668
county residents. And

2754
01:29:07,668 --> 01:29:09,503
unfortunately the city does

2755
01:29:09,503 --> 01:29:10,337
have resources for residents

2756
01:29:10,337 --> 01:29:13,937
who live in parks within the

2757
01:29:14,108 --> 01:29:14,842
city limits. But those are not

2758
01:29:14,842 --> 01:29:15,909
available to county residents.

2759
01:29:15,909 --> 01:29:18,846
Is that is that right? I

2760
01:29:18,846 --> 01:29:21,846
believe that is correct. We

2761
01:29:22,616 --> 01:29:23,317
have our Yeah.

2762
01:29:23,317 --> 01:29:24,170
>> I'm just just helping. So

2763
01:29:24,170 --> 01:29:27,870
it would. But I'm just trying

2764
01:29:27,870 --> 01:29:27,755
to assist our are listening

2765
01:29:27,755 --> 01:29:28,422
public.

2766
01:29:28,422 --> 01:29:29,890
>> Would it make sense for

2767
01:29:29,890 --> 01:29:31,192
those folks who are in that

2768
01:29:31,192 --> 01:29:33,592
situation in contact? The

2769
01:29:34,862 --> 01:29:35,596
county housing department?

2770
01:29:35,596 --> 01:29:36,463
Thank you for the question.

2771
01:29:36,463 --> 01:29:38,863
Megan passenger, director of

2772
01:29:39,166 --> 01:29:40,200
Housing Community Services. So

2773
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:41,335
yes, the city does have

2774
01:29:41,335 --> 01:29:43,700
resources available regarding

2775
01:29:43,700 --> 01:29:44,972
the mobile home rent

2776
01:29:44,972 --> 01:29:46,473
stabilization ordinance that

2777
01:29:46,473 --> 01:29:47,174
we provide to parks. Residents

2778
01:29:47,174 --> 01:29:49,210
within the city limits. The

2779
01:29:49,210 --> 01:29:49,610
county has similar services

2780
01:29:49,610 --> 01:29:50,745
available.

2781
01:29:50,745 --> 01:29:51,412
>> Through the Community

2782
01:29:51,412 --> 01:29:53,412
Development Commission, so

2783
01:29:54,215 --> 01:29:54,882
residents of parks in the

2784
01:29:54,882 --> 01:29:56,882
county jurisdiction should

2785
01:29:58,952 --> 01:29:59,653
reach out to the county cdc

2786
01:29:59,653 --> 01:30:00,755
for questions and guidance on

2787
01:30:00,755 --> 01:30:01,622
how they work through the

2788
01:30:01,622 --> 01:30:03,390
rent, Stabilization Ordinance,

2789
01:30:03,390 --> 01:30:05,593
which is very similar to the

2790
01:30:05,593 --> 01:30:07,695
cities and any concerns they

2791
01:30:07,695 --> 01:30:08,796
have regarding park. And is

2792
01:30:08,796 --> 01:30:10,998
that something that's of the

2793
01:30:10,998 --> 01:30:11,899
folks here today could ask you

2794
01:30:11,899 --> 01:30:12,633
for that contact or or the

2795
01:30:12,633 --> 01:30:15,633
website yesterday to meet with

2796
01:30:15,636 --> 01:30:15,937
them at the conclusion of

2797
01:30:15,937 --> 01:30:17,937
item.

2798
01:30:18,638 --> 01:30:21,638
>> Thank The other question I

2799
01:30:22,910 --> 01:30:23,544
had was around gentrification.

2800
01:30:23,544 --> 01:30:24,244
That's that's the sound.

2801
01:30:24,244 --> 01:30:24,879
Something that's more within

2802
01:30:24,879 --> 01:30:25,478
the purview of the matter

2803
01:30:25,478 --> 01:30:28,478
before us. And I'm just

2804
01:30:28,749 --> 01:30:30,418
curious to know what measures

2805
01:30:30,418 --> 01:30:31,184
it will be taking around

2806
01:30:31,184 --> 01:30:31,853
preservation and protection as

2807
01:30:31,853 --> 01:30:34,889
we move forward. And if you

2808
01:30:34,889 --> 01:30:35,590
could just review those and

2809
01:30:35,590 --> 01:30:36,257
see if we can satisfy some of

2810
01:30:36,257 --> 01:30:36,923
the concerns of our of our

2811
01:30:36,923 --> 01:30:39,923
members of the public here

2812
01:30:44,298 --> 01:30:47,298
today. Thank you for the

2813
01:30:49,370 --> 01:30:51,370
question.

2814
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,775
>> I think focuses on a lot of

2815
01:30:53,775 --> 01:30:55,276
that. The comments that we've

2816
01:30:55,276 --> 01:30:56,100
heard today on specific

2817
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:58,100
measures related to

2818
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:01,916
preservation the affordable

2819
01:31:01,916 --> 01:31:03,170
housing anti displacement

2820
01:31:03,170 --> 01:31:03,684
strategy, which was done

2821
01:31:03,684 --> 01:31:05,620
specifically for this area,

2822
01:31:05,620 --> 01:31:06,387
was also referenced, but at

2823
01:31:06,387 --> 01:31:09,387
least one public comment or

2824
01:31:10,910 --> 01:31:11,325
that does include pretty

2825
01:31:11,325 --> 01:31:14,461
diverse mix of ways to protect

2826
01:31:14,461 --> 01:31:15,429
residents and preserve either

2827
01:31:15,429 --> 01:31:16,831
deed restricted or just

2828
01:31:16,831 --> 01:31:17,365
naturally occurring,

2829
01:31:17,365 --> 01:31:19,365
affordable housing.

2830
01:31:22,670 --> 01:31:23,504
>> So we will be continuing to

2831
01:31:23,504 --> 01:31:25,473
kind of flush these out as

2832
01:31:25,473 --> 01:31:26,508
they apply to the issues that

2833
01:31:26,508 --> 01:31:29,310
we're hearing in concert with

2834
01:31:29,310 --> 01:31:29,944
county staff and then bring

2835
01:31:29,944 --> 01:31:32,344
those specific items for

2836
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,484
council to review it this fall

2837
01:31:36,484 --> 01:31:37,185
has options to integrate into

2838
01:31:37,185 --> 01:31:37,886
the specific plan answer your

2839
01:31:37,886 --> 01:31:40,886
question that that does thank

2840
01:31:41,220 --> 01:31:42,230
you for your health.

2841
01:31:42,230 --> 01:31:42,757
>> Thank you for those

2842
01:31:42,757 --> 01:31:44,757
clarifications. Other comments

2843
01:31:48,829 --> 01:31:51,799
from council. MRS. And the

2844
01:31:51,799 --> 01:31:54,199
most respectful manner that

2845
01:31:55,269 --> 01:31:57,172
>> Nov. I would hope I believe

2846
01:31:57,172 --> 01:32:01,372
that I do have the support of

2847
01:32:02,900 --> 01:32:03,178
my colleagues to invite our

2848
01:32:03,178 --> 01:32:06,178
regional partners and at the

2849
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:06,915
lectern level 2 continue the

2850
01:32:06,915 --> 01:32:09,315
conversation. How we come

2851
01:32:11,319 --> 01:32:12,387
together. Provide the median

2852
01:32:12,387 --> 01:32:14,356
housing in the most effective

2853
01:32:14,356 --> 01:32:14,989
and efficient manner possible.

2854
01:32:14,989 --> 01:32:17,692
And I'm grateful that our

2855
01:32:17,692 --> 01:32:20,920
staff. Are having that

2856
01:32:20,662 --> 01:32:21,763
conversation. But again, I do

2857
01:32:21,763 --> 01:32:22,430
invite our regional partners

2858
01:32:22,430 --> 01:32:26,300
to join us and having that

2859
01:32:26,668 --> 01:32:29,680
conversation as well. Thank

2860
01:32:31,573 --> 01:32:32,207
you. Spend

2861
01:32:32,207 --> 01:32:35,207
>> And along the lines of

2862
01:32:35,343 --> 01:32:37,212
Councilmember Alvarez was just

2863
01:32:37,212 --> 01:32:38,179
saying. I appreciate that. I

2864
01:32:38,179 --> 01:32:39,514
see you reading copious notes.

2865
01:32:39,514 --> 01:32:40,715
I appreciate that. You are

2866
01:32:40,715 --> 01:32:43,715
listening to what the public

2867
01:32:44,285 --> 01:32:45,754
is saying it is true that many

2868
01:32:45,754 --> 01:32:46,454
of these parks are in the

2869
01:32:46,454 --> 01:32:49,454
county, but they're also part

2870
01:32:49,591 --> 01:32:50,258
of the

2871
01:32:50,258 --> 01:32:52,127
>> And there are parks that

2872
01:32:52,127 --> 01:32:56,327
are in the city, not as many

2873
01:32:57,299 --> 01:32:58,330
in this particular plan, but

2874
01:32:58,330 --> 01:32:58,901
just to say we have many parks

2875
01:32:58,901 --> 01:32:59,935
throughout the city of Santa

2876
01:32:59,935 --> 01:33:02,935
Rosa. So so with thinking

2877
01:33:03,304 --> 01:33:04,500
about that, I I do agree with

2878
01:33:04,500 --> 01:33:04,706
some of the things that some

2879
01:33:04,706 --> 01:33:07,943
of the speakers were sent and

2880
01:33:07,943 --> 01:33:08,677
that is that we before we move

2881
01:33:08,677 --> 01:33:10,345
forward, we need to figure out

2882
01:33:10,345 --> 01:33:12,548
how we make sure that.

2883
01:33:12,548 --> 01:33:14,548
>> Displacement doesn't

2884
01:33:15,483 --> 01:33:16,652
happen. Whether know whether

2885
01:33:16,652 --> 01:33:17,119
you live in mobile home Park

2886
01:33:17,119 --> 01:33:19,119
rv Park.

2887
01:33:20,322 --> 01:33:21,289
>> Oran in an apartment

2888
01:33:21,289 --> 01:33:21,957
building.

2889
01:33:21,957 --> 01:33:22,624
>> I think that's something

2890
01:33:22,624 --> 01:33:24,920
that we need to look at. I

2891
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,620
think I'm going to say this to

2892
01:33:27,620 --> 01:33:27,929
my counsel. Don't the load

2893
01:33:27,929 --> 01:33:28,797
Council members we need to

2894
01:33:28,797 --> 01:33:32,997
step up. We need to step up

2895
01:33:33,202 --> 01:33:34,269
take some action. I we've been

2896
01:33:34,269 --> 01:33:36,204
watching what's happening in

2897
01:33:36,204 --> 01:33:36,905
other jurisdictions and that's

2898
01:33:36,905 --> 01:33:37,573
great. But I think we need to

2899
01:33:37,573 --> 01:33:40,775
step up and do something to

2900
01:33:40,775 --> 01:33:41,510
protect our residents. So and

2901
01:33:41,510 --> 01:33:44,510
that's not on you necessarily.

2902
01:33:45,247 --> 01:33:45,814
That's really on us. If we

2903
01:33:45,814 --> 01:33:47,116
want to really make a

2904
01:33:47,116 --> 01:33:49,116
difference protect our

2905
01:33:50,786 --> 01:33:51,920
community the only other thing

2906
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,556
I would say is I actually am

2907
01:33:54,556 --> 01:33:57,556
still happy with the direction

2908
01:33:58,600 --> 01:33:58,694
this is going I know you're

2909
01:33:58,694 --> 01:33:59,328
going to continue to take

2910
01:33:59,328 --> 01:34:01,329
community input. I think

2911
01:34:01,329 --> 01:34:03,729
that's really important. And

2912
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:06,601
and and get more feedback

2913
01:34:06,601 --> 01:34:07,336
because I want to ensure that

2914
01:34:07,336 --> 01:34:10,372
we incorporate as much as what

2915
01:34:10,372 --> 01:34:11,507
the community wants is

2916
01:34:11,507 --> 01:34:14,507
possible. So very much in

2917
01:34:15,143 --> 01:34:17,450
favor of that.

2918
01:34:17,450 --> 01:34:17,746
>> And I also thinking about

2919
01:34:17,746 --> 01:34:18,981
protecting our community, but

2920
01:34:18,981 --> 01:34:19,315
also that whatever development

2921
01:34:19,315 --> 01:34:21,315
we do.

2922
01:34:22,918 --> 01:34:24,850
>> That word equitable

2923
01:34:24,850 --> 01:34:26,221
development that that to me, I

2924
01:34:26,221 --> 01:34:26,956
think that was in the in acp

2925
01:34:26,956 --> 01:34:28,457
letter and I did read it even

2926
01:34:28,457 --> 01:34:29,157
though it came to us at the

2927
01:34:29,157 --> 01:34:32,161
last minute. I read the whole

2928
01:34:32,161 --> 01:34:35,161
thing. You know, I represent

2929
01:34:35,664 --> 01:34:37,499
people of color represent

2930
01:34:37,499 --> 01:34:39,568
Latinos. Echo the to me is

2931
01:34:39,568 --> 01:34:40,469
really important in any kind

2932
01:34:40,469 --> 01:34:42,404
of development that we do so

2933
01:34:42,404 --> 01:34:44,774
and I know you you for that

2934
01:34:44,774 --> 01:34:45,708
for me. Not just now, but even

2935
01:34:45,708 --> 01:34:46,409
of the time commission, those

2936
01:34:46,409 --> 01:34:47,743
of the things that that I

2937
01:34:47,743 --> 01:34:49,845
think are important. So with

2938
01:34:49,845 --> 01:34:51,146
that all. That's all I have to

2939
01:34:51,146 --> 01:34:54,746
say. Thank you. Thank you, MR.

2940
01:34:55,985 --> 01:34:58,287
Donald. Thank you, Mayor. I

2941
01:34:58,287 --> 01:34:59,210
just have a few more comments.

2942
01:34:59,210 --> 01:35:00,423
I notice in the specific plans

2943
01:35:00,423 --> 01:35:02,224
that are being brought

2944
01:35:02,224 --> 01:35:03,559
forward.

2945
01:35:03,559 --> 01:35:04,159
>> We have an increase of

2946
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:05,894
people, an increase of

2947
01:35:05,894 --> 01:35:07,896
services that we're going to

2948
01:35:07,896 --> 01:35:09,650
need infrastructure. And I

2949
01:35:09,650 --> 01:35:09,865
know that sometimes you you

2950
01:35:09,865 --> 01:35:12,568
have this great plan in place.

2951
01:35:12,568 --> 01:35:12,902
It takes us a long time to get

2952
01:35:12,902 --> 01:35:14,470
there.

2953
01:35:14,470 --> 01:35:15,672
>> But have we ever done a

2954
01:35:15,672 --> 01:35:16,572
crosswalk of about how much

2955
01:35:16,572 --> 01:35:19,275
money this will cost less to

2956
01:35:19,275 --> 01:35:20,343
do it, whether it's

2957
01:35:20,343 --> 01:35:22,211
infrastructure.

2958
01:35:22,211 --> 01:35:23,645
>> Public safety, if you're

2959
01:35:23,645 --> 01:35:24,313
looking at it, it looked like

2960
01:35:24,313 --> 01:35:27,249
we were going acquire more

2961
01:35:27,249 --> 01:35:29,318
parks, that type of thing. I

2962
01:35:29,318 --> 01:35:30,319
oftentimes we look at these

2963
01:35:30,319 --> 01:35:32,989
specific plans and we have

2964
01:35:32,989 --> 01:35:33,689
this dream, but I'm not seeing

2965
01:35:33,689 --> 01:35:34,357
the pen and pencil part of it

2966
01:35:34,357 --> 01:35:37,957
of how we're going to take

2967
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:39,729
care of that and maybe it's in

2968
01:35:39,729 --> 01:35:40,529
there it all of your

2969
01:35:40,529 --> 01:35:41,230
documents. But when it comes

2970
01:35:41,230 --> 01:35:43,932
to me to approve these plans

2971
01:35:43,932 --> 01:35:45,268
and we're looking at policy, I

2972
01:35:45,268 --> 01:35:46,269
think it's wise of us to

2973
01:35:46,269 --> 01:35:49,138
actually look at what we're

2974
01:35:49,138 --> 01:35:51,600
biting off to make sure that

2975
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:51,774
we can chew it and that we can

2976
01:35:51,774 --> 01:35:54,644
actually take care of all of

2977
01:35:54,644 --> 01:35:56,644
these areas appropriately

2978
01:35:56,779 --> 01:35:58,848
because we're seeing already

2979
01:35:58,848 --> 01:35:59,549
now how Sandra spread in the

2980
01:35:59,549 --> 01:36:00,282
city. So I don't know if you

2981
01:36:00,282 --> 01:36:01,984
have any feedback on that now,

2982
01:36:01,984 --> 01:36:02,719
but I think just moving

2983
01:36:02,719 --> 01:36:05,540
forward, that would be helpful

2984
01:36:05,540 --> 01:36:07,590
for me. Yes, thank you,

2985
01:36:07,590 --> 01:36:09,125
councilmember question. So

2986
01:36:09,125 --> 01:36:11,960
it's an excellent point. And

2987
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:12,662
yes, part of every specific

2988
01:36:12,662 --> 01:36:13,596
plan, one of the requirements

2989
01:36:13,596 --> 01:36:16,596
included in that is an

2990
01:36:17,633 --> 01:36:19,502
implementation plan. And that

2991
01:36:19,502 --> 01:36:20,103
addresses the short-term

2992
01:36:20,103 --> 01:36:20,803
projects, mid-term and

2993
01:36:20,803 --> 01:36:22,803
long-term projects, potential

2994
01:36:24,140 --> 01:36:25,800
costs and potential funding.

2995
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:27,910
Rep for new or not revenue.

2996
01:36:27,910 --> 01:36:30,910
But but funding mechanisms put

2997
01:36:31,140 --> 01:36:32,182
those measures into place and

2998
01:36:32,182 --> 01:36:34,250
then who would be responsible

2999
01:36:34,250 --> 01:36:36,190
for doing that? So, yeah. So

3000
01:36:36,190 --> 01:36:37,787
when the final specific plan

3001
01:36:37,787 --> 01:36:38,521
comes before the council for

3002
01:36:38,521 --> 01:36:39,756
consideration, you'll see that

3003
01:36:39,756 --> 01:36:42,250
as part of it definitely would

3004
01:36:42,250 --> 01:36:42,625
welcome any feedback on that.

3005
01:36:42,625 --> 01:36:45,250
Thank you. That's very

3006
01:36:47,197 --> 01:36:48,980
helpful. Thank you. Ms Rogers.

3007
01:36:48,980 --> 01:36:51,980
Thank you, Mayor. I just

3008
01:36:51,668 --> 01:36:52,369
wanted to thank staff for the

3009
01:36:52,369 --> 01:36:53,269
presentation and for all the

3010
01:36:53,269 --> 01:36:56,269
hard work that you're doing.

3011
01:36:57,206 --> 01:36:59,775
And I think although many of

3012
01:36:59,775 --> 01:37:00,442
our speakers where from a live

3013
01:37:00,442 --> 01:37:02,842
outside our jurisdiction. I

3014
01:37:03,413 --> 01:37:05,615
think that this was great.

3015
01:37:05,615 --> 01:37:07,617
>> reminder that now is the

3016
01:37:07,617 --> 01:37:08,752
time that we can collaborate

3017
01:37:08,752 --> 01:37:10,920
with the county and that this

3018
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:13,920
will allow us to collaborate

3019
01:37:14,558 --> 01:37:18,940
even more. So with the county

3020
01:37:18,940 --> 01:37:19,162
too, ensure that the low

3021
01:37:19,162 --> 01:37:19,996
income housing remains

3022
01:37:19,996 --> 01:37:22,396
protected and that's within

3023
01:37:23,133 --> 01:37:23,834
the city limits. And without I

3024
01:37:23,834 --> 01:37:27,434
mean, an outside of the city

3025
01:37:27,738 --> 01:37:31,338
limits and how important it is

3026
01:37:31,341 --> 01:37:32,275
in that the lines that we draw

3027
01:37:32,275 --> 01:37:33,910
are imaginary, but people's

3028
01:37:33,910 --> 01:37:36,120
livelihoods and their housing

3029
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:38,548
in there families are very

3030
01:37:38,548 --> 01:37:39,182
real. So I do want to thank

3031
01:37:39,182 --> 01:37:42,182
everyone that came out to

3032
01:37:42,752 --> 01:37:44,554
speak with us and I I can

3033
01:37:44,554 --> 01:37:45,889
speak for myself, but I think

3034
01:37:45,889 --> 01:37:49,693
that I can also speak for my

3035
01:37:49,693 --> 01:37:51,795
colleagues that we do what to

3036
01:37:51,795 --> 01:37:53,597
protect the housing that we

3037
01:37:53,597 --> 01:37:54,598
have. Not only do we want to

3038
01:37:54,598 --> 01:37:55,265
increase the housing stock

3039
01:37:55,265 --> 01:37:58,865
that we want to protect the

3040
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:01,104
housing that we have in. We

3041
01:38:01,104 --> 01:38:03,500
appreciate you coming out to

3042
01:38:03,500 --> 01:38:03,874
tell us to remind a little

3043
01:38:03,874 --> 01:38:07,474
reminder goes a long way. So

3044
01:38:08,111 --> 01:38:08,879
thank you very much. Thank

3045
01:38:08,879 --> 01:38:09,546
you. Any other question or

3046
01:38:09,546 --> 01:38:11,946
comments or direction from

3047
01:38:12,983 --> 01:38:14,884
council?

3048
01:38:14,884 --> 01:38:16,954
>> I'll just follow up on ms

3049
01:38:16,954 --> 01:38:17,955
Rogers and it's been a while

3050
01:38:17,955 --> 01:38:19,957
point with with the reminder

3051
01:38:19,957 --> 01:38:20,657
that a positive reminder that

3052
01:38:20,657 --> 01:38:21,992
there are a lot of attorneys,

3053
01:38:21,992 --> 01:38:23,259
a lot of elected officials and

3054
01:38:23,259 --> 01:38:24,527
a lot of city managers across

3055
01:38:24,527 --> 01:38:25,162
the county right now working

3056
01:38:25,162 --> 01:38:26,296
on exactly the issue that

3057
01:38:26,296 --> 01:38:28,332
you're here to talk about

3058
01:38:28,332 --> 01:38:30,234
today. As many of you know,

3059
01:38:30,234 --> 01:38:30,968
well, you see what's going on

3060
01:38:30,968 --> 01:38:33,603
in Petaluma in Windsor, in the

3061
01:38:33,603 --> 01:38:35,606
city of Santa Rosa. We are

3062
01:38:35,606 --> 01:38:36,439
part of that discussion. So

3063
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:37,607
please don't think that the

3064
01:38:37,607 --> 01:38:40,310
city of Santa Rosa City on its

3065
01:38:40,310 --> 01:38:41,745
hands. We have our staff and

3066
01:38:41,745 --> 01:38:42,313
our elected officials here or

3067
01:38:42,313 --> 01:38:43,130
are paying very close

3068
01:38:43,130 --> 01:38:44,147
attention to this discussion

3069
01:38:44,147 --> 01:38:44,982
because we do need to protect

3070
01:38:44,982 --> 01:38:47,982
our housing. With respect to

3071
01:38:48,786 --> 01:38:49,720
to the specific plan, I just

3072
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:51,422
continue to be excited with

3073
01:38:51,422 --> 01:38:52,156
the ideas that are coming

3074
01:38:52,156 --> 01:38:52,856
forward and impressed with the

3075
01:38:52,856 --> 01:38:54,291
incredible want to staff work

3076
01:38:54,291 --> 01:38:57,891
that's gone into this. This is

3077
01:38:58,862 --> 01:39:00,164
the last large. Relatively

3078
01:39:00,164 --> 01:39:02,990
undeveloped piece of land in

3079
01:39:02,990 --> 01:39:03,900
the city within our with

3080
01:39:03,900 --> 01:39:04,468
boundaries and I say

3081
01:39:04,468 --> 01:39:05,201
relatively and of the

3082
01:39:05,201 --> 01:39:06,700
undeveloped because of course,

3083
01:39:06,700 --> 01:39:06,737
we have thousands of people

3084
01:39:06,737 --> 01:39:07,371
living there. We have

3085
01:39:07,371 --> 01:39:09,771
businesses. We have major

3086
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,709
pieces of infrastructure, but

3087
01:39:12,709 --> 01:39:14,611
it is it is going to grow. It

3088
01:39:14,611 --> 01:39:16,146
is going to dense if I I'm

3089
01:39:16,146 --> 01:39:17,214
excited, but I see that even

3090
01:39:17,214 --> 01:39:17,915
even the talk of bridges or

3091
01:39:17,915 --> 01:39:20,315
pedestrian overcrossing to or

3092
01:39:21,352 --> 01:39:22,319
want to one as we continue to

3093
01:39:22,319 --> 01:39:24,870
try to our city to back

3094
01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:25,956
together after building a

3095
01:39:25,956 --> 01:39:26,690
freeway right through and the

3096
01:39:26,690 --> 01:39:27,391
improvements in the quality of

3097
01:39:27,391 --> 01:39:30,940
life that's going to have for

3098
01:39:30,940 --> 01:39:30,828
all residents in the city with

3099
01:39:30,828 --> 01:39:31,495
special reference to those who

3100
01:39:31,495 --> 01:39:33,397
are living in Southeast and

3101
01:39:33,397 --> 01:39:35,499
Southwest Santa Rosa along

3102
01:39:35,499 --> 01:39:37,601
this corridor. So the plan is

3103
01:39:37,601 --> 01:39:39,337
put forward that incorporate

3104
01:39:39,337 --> 01:39:41,572
all the community feedback it

3105
01:39:41,572 --> 01:39:42,472
It proves means gives us and

3106
01:39:42,472 --> 01:39:45,442
abroad a line from what that

3107
01:39:45,442 --> 01:39:47,243
part of the city can look like

3108
01:39:47,243 --> 01:39:47,978
and and how great it can I

3109
01:39:47,978 --> 01:39:49,280
mean, it's it's a good part of

3110
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:50,140
the city now, but we can make

3111
01:39:50,140 --> 01:39:50,715
it better with a lot of

3112
01:39:50,715 --> 01:39:52,715
infrastructure investment and

3113
01:39:53,751 --> 01:39:54,885
with good planning. This is a

3114
01:39:54,885 --> 01:39:56,200
step towards that. So staff,

3115
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:56,686
thank you very much. And thank

3116
01:39:56,686 --> 01:39:58,755
you all the members of the

3117
01:39:58,755 --> 01:39:59,357
community that put time in

3118
01:39:59,357 --> 01:40:01,757
today in our community

3119
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:03,894
meetings to help push this

3120
01:40:03,894 --> 01:40:05,529
forward. Backed a staff room

3121
01:40:05,529 --> 01:40:06,196
and you've you've gotten some

3122
01:40:06,196 --> 01:40:06,864
feedback from a son serving

3123
01:40:06,864 --> 01:40:08,598
from the community. Do need

3124
01:40:08,598 --> 01:40:11,598
anything else for today. I

3125
01:40:12,636 --> 01:40:15,636
think we're good. Thank you.

3126
01:40:15,806 --> 01:40:17,207
Director has been we're going.

3127
01:40:17,207 --> 01:40:18,809
Yes, thank you, mayor. Just a

3128
01:40:18,809 --> 01:40:20,430
really quick recap. I think

3129
01:40:20,430 --> 01:40:21,780
the critical pieces, the

3130
01:40:21,780 --> 01:40:22,946
council to understand that we

3131
01:40:22,946 --> 01:40:23,748
are moving forward now with

3132
01:40:23,748 --> 01:40:24,949
the preferred alternative that

3133
01:40:24,949 --> 01:40:26,500
was presented. So we'll do.

3134
01:40:26,500 --> 01:40:26,917
The technical studies will

3135
01:40:26,917 --> 01:40:27,585
look at the displacement

3136
01:40:27,585 --> 01:40:29,520
issues that potentially can

3137
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:30,921
can exist with that.

3138
01:40:30,921 --> 01:40:31,622
>> But this is a critical

3139
01:40:31,622 --> 01:40:33,724
decision making point for us

3140
01:40:33,724 --> 01:40:34,658
because we are now investing

3141
01:40:34,658 --> 01:40:35,726
resources and understanding

3142
01:40:35,726 --> 01:40:37,728
the financial analysis. The

3143
01:40:37,728 --> 01:40:38,462
traffic study, all those other

3144
01:40:38,462 --> 01:40:39,162
parts and pieces. So thank you

3145
01:40:39,162 --> 01:40:40,964
for the feedback. This really

3146
01:40:40,964 --> 01:40:42,967
helps us hold our timeline.

3147
01:40:42,967 --> 01:40:43,601
Staff will move forward with

3148
01:40:43,601 --> 01:40:44,268
Council direction. We're

3149
01:40:44,268 --> 01:40:47,370
looking forward to the next

3150
01:40:47,370 --> 01:40:48,939
generation. Thank you all.

3151
01:40:48,939 --> 01:40:51,275
>> All right. We will move

3152
01:40:51,275 --> 01:40:51,876
ahead then want to item 6. Our

3153
01:40:51,876 --> 01:40:52,443
report on our clothes

3154
01:40:52,443 --> 01:40:54,443
Sessions, MADAM City,

3155
01:40:55,446 --> 01:40:56,247
Attorney.

3156
01:40:56,247 --> 01:40:56,948
>> Thank you, mayor. There's

3157
01:40:56,948 --> 01:40:59,948
one reportable action out of

3158
01:41:00,251 --> 01:41:01,119
closed session. The city

3159
01:41:01,119 --> 01:41:03,455
COUNCILMAN Closed session on

3160
01:41:03,455 --> 01:41:04,550
item 3.1 anticipated

3161
01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:05,456
litigation pursuant to

3162
01:41:05,456 --> 01:41:07,456
Government Code Section 5, 4,

3163
01:41:08,193 --> 01:41:10,193
9, 5, 6.0. 94 has identified

3164
01:41:11,796 --> 01:41:12,563
on the posted agenda on a

3165
01:41:12,563 --> 01:41:14,399
motion by Councilmember

3166
01:41:14,399 --> 01:41:16,534
Fleming, seconded by Vice

3167
01:41:16,534 --> 01:41:17,168
Mayor Okrepkie the council

3168
01:41:17,168 --> 01:41:19,700
voted unanimously to give

3169
01:41:19,700 --> 01:41:20,380
direction to legal counsel, to

3170
01:41:20,380 --> 01:41:22,380
initiate litigation against

3171
01:41:22,907 --> 01:41:23,508
Pierce manufacturing at all.

3172
01:41:23,508 --> 01:41:25,908
There are no additional

3173
01:41:26,144 --> 01:41:27,278
reportable action is taken.

3174
01:41:27,278 --> 01:41:29,214
>> Thank you very much, indeed

3175
01:41:29,214 --> 01:41:30,415
public comment. I just want to

3176
01:41:30,415 --> 01:41:31,820
thank all the members of the

3177
01:41:31,820 --> 01:41:32,550
public again, who took the

3178
01:41:32,550 --> 01:41:33,184
time to come out. Your please,

3179
01:41:33,184 --> 01:41:35,584
please come back anytime

3180
01:41:35,753 --> 01:41:37,522
states stay engaged with this

3181
01:41:37,522 --> 01:41:38,189
issue. Back to our closed

3182
01:41:38,189 --> 01:41:40,589
session report. Any public

3183
01:41:43,929 --> 01:41:45,930
comment on that? Seeing none.

3184
01:41:45,930 --> 01:41:47,532
We'll close public comment.

3185
01:41:47,532 --> 01:41:48,990
And we had then to item 9, our

3186
01:41:48,990 --> 01:41:50,499
city manager and city

3187
01:41:51,102 --> 01:41:53,102
attorneys reports. City

3188
01:41:54,105 --> 01:41:55,500
manager, not anything for us

3189
01:41:55,500 --> 01:41:55,674
today.

3190
01:41:55,674 --> 01:41:58,430
>> Yes, I thank you, Mayor

3191
01:41:58,430 --> 01:42:01,430
Mayor and council. I have

3192
01:42:01,313 --> 01:42:02,580
several great items to talk

3193
01:42:02,580 --> 01:42:04,749
about. First. I'm really proud

3194
01:42:04,749 --> 01:42:06,617
to announce that Moody's

3195
01:42:06,617 --> 01:42:08,319
ratings, one of the world's

3196
01:42:08,319 --> 01:42:09,120
top credit rating agencies is

3197
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:10,989
upgraded the city of Santa

3198
01:42:10,989 --> 01:42:12,157
Rosa's credit rating to a a

3199
01:42:12,157 --> 01:42:14,159
one. The second highest credit

3200
01:42:14,159 --> 01:42:14,826
rating in their system

3201
01:42:14,826 --> 01:42:17,226
assigning a stable outlook

3202
01:42:18,429 --> 01:42:20,332
across the board. And a one

3203
01:42:20,332 --> 01:42:21,466
rating is an exceptional

3204
01:42:21,466 --> 01:42:22,167
achievement and a powerful

3205
01:42:22,167 --> 01:42:22,801
external validation of its

3206
01:42:22,801 --> 01:42:23,468
strength, resilience and

3207
01:42:23,468 --> 01:42:25,868
positive trajectory of our

3208
01:42:26,204 --> 01:42:26,938
community. Achieving this

3209
01:42:26,938 --> 01:42:29,338
level of financial recognition

3210
01:42:30,342 --> 01:42:31,430
was no accident. It's the

3211
01:42:31,430 --> 01:42:31,777
direct results of difficult

3212
01:42:31,777 --> 01:42:34,177
but necessary decisions made

3213
01:42:35,314 --> 01:42:36,481
by eu Council and the work of

3214
01:42:36,481 --> 01:42:38,830
our city departments and the

3215
01:42:38,830 --> 01:42:38,717
proactive strategies of the

3216
01:42:38,717 --> 01:42:41,117
city leadership team both

3217
01:42:42,254 --> 01:42:43,388
today and previously today,

3218
01:42:43,388 --> 01:42:45,900
specifically highlight

3219
01:42:45,900 --> 01:42:46,691
highlighted our track record

3220
01:42:46,691 --> 01:42:47,593
of budgeting and our decisive

3221
01:42:47,593 --> 01:42:49,593
proactive response to

3222
01:42:51,630 --> 01:42:53,630
budgetary pressures, including

3223
01:42:53,650 --> 01:42:53,732
discipline spending, executing

3224
01:42:53,732 --> 01:42:54,365
significant spending

3225
01:42:54,365 --> 01:42:55,968
reductions while strictly

3226
01:42:55,968 --> 01:42:58,368
maintaining our General Fund

3227
01:42:58,803 --> 01:42:59,671
Reserve strategic depth

3228
01:42:59,671 --> 01:43:00,404
management implementing highly

3229
01:43:00,404 --> 01:43:02,107
effective strategies to manage

3230
01:43:02,107 --> 01:43:05,107
pension debt such as the

3231
01:43:06,879 --> 01:43:08,947
Calpers Fresh Start program.

3232
01:43:08,947 --> 01:43:09,948
Which secures an estimated

3233
01:43:09,948 --> 01:43:11,116
37 million and long-term cost

3234
01:43:11,116 --> 01:43:12,250
avoidance community

3235
01:43:12,250 --> 01:43:14,353
partnership. The final support

3236
01:43:14,353 --> 01:43:16,922
of our residents who have past

3237
01:43:16,922 --> 01:43:17,556
success who have passed

3238
01:43:17,556 --> 01:43:18,257
successful voter approved

3239
01:43:18,257 --> 01:43:20,657
measures to protect Essential

3240
01:43:21,526 --> 01:43:23,328
City services, responsible

3241
01:43:23,328 --> 01:43:24,463
planning developing public,

3242
01:43:24,463 --> 01:43:26,231
really disclose long-term

3243
01:43:26,231 --> 01:43:26,832
contingency plans to ensure

3244
01:43:26,832 --> 01:43:28,832
our financial stability

3245
01:43:28,867 --> 01:43:30,969
regardless of future economic

3246
01:43:30,969 --> 01:43:31,737
shifts. The on city

3247
01:43:31,737 --> 01:43:32,404
operations, Moody's recognize

3248
01:43:32,404 --> 01:43:34,804
the undeniable strength of

3249
01:43:35,875 --> 01:43:36,609
Santa Rosa itself. Our local

3250
01:43:36,609 --> 01:43:38,443
economy continues to thrive as

3251
01:43:38,443 --> 01:43:39,545
a prepare regional center for

3252
01:43:39,545 --> 01:43:41,545
government medical services,

3253
01:43:42,214 --> 01:43:44,116
retail and tourism. This

3254
01:43:44,116 --> 01:43:46,485
upgrade reflects our robust

3255
01:43:46,485 --> 01:43:48,200
property value growth, solid

3256
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:49,388
resident incomes and the

3257
01:43:49,388 --> 01:43:49,989
ongoing construction projects

3258
01:43:49,989 --> 01:43:51,423
that underscore a deep

3259
01:43:51,423 --> 01:43:53,759
continue to invest in our

3260
01:43:53,759 --> 01:43:54,793
city. These upgrades confirm

3261
01:43:54,793 --> 01:43:56,610
what we already know. Santa

3262
01:43:56,610 --> 01:43:57,296
Rosa's economy and community

3263
01:43:57,296 --> 01:43:59,632
are steadily moving in a

3264
01:43:59,632 --> 01:44:00,332
highly positive and prosperous

3265
01:44:00,332 --> 01:44:02,732
direction. I want to

3266
01:44:04,203 --> 01:44:05,303
congratulate and thank the

3267
01:44:05,303 --> 01:44:07,739
council our team for all of

3268
01:44:07,739 --> 01:44:09,909
the hard work they did to

3269
01:44:09,909 --> 01:44:12,309
achieve this upgraded ratings

3270
01:44:13,713 --> 01:44:14,379
structure. I think it's great.

3271
01:44:14,379 --> 01:44:17,379
Absolutely. Our cfo is not

3272
01:44:18,550 --> 01:44:19,618
here to take a bow. He's

3273
01:44:19,618 --> 01:44:21,820
hiding steadiest hiding in the

3274
01:44:21,820 --> 01:44:23,689
back. Thank you to the whole

3275
01:44:23,689 --> 01:44:24,690
team. I also want to say that

3276
01:44:24,690 --> 01:44:25,858
the Santa Rosa Police

3277
01:44:25,858 --> 01:44:26,659
Department will host a

3278
01:44:26,659 --> 01:44:27,860
community meeting on

3279
01:44:27,860 --> 01:44:29,295
SEPTEMBER, the 17th about the

3280
01:44:29,295 --> 01:44:31,197
use of its flock, automated

3281
01:44:31,197 --> 01:44:33,197
license plate reader

3282
01:44:33,199 --> 01:44:34,166
technology. The meeting

3283
01:44:34,166 --> 01:44:36,350
explain how alpr assist with

3284
01:44:36,350 --> 01:44:37,637
serious criminal

3285
01:44:37,637 --> 01:44:38,304
investigations outline privacy

3286
01:44:38,304 --> 01:44:40,205
safeguards such as vehicle

3287
01:44:40,205 --> 01:44:42,605
only data collection. 30 day

3288
01:44:43,976 --> 01:44:44,610
retention case based searches

3289
01:44:44,610 --> 01:44:45,311
and audits and provide an

3290
01:44:45,311 --> 01:44:46,812
opportunity for residents to

3291
01:44:46,812 --> 01:44:48,981
ask questions and offer

3292
01:44:48,981 --> 01:44:50,783
feedback Spanish translation

3293
01:44:50,783 --> 01:44:51,984
and accommodations will be

3294
01:44:51,984 --> 01:44:52,885
available and the meeting is

3295
01:44:52,885 --> 01:44:54,720
being promoted through a

3296
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:55,755
variety of avenues, including

3297
01:44:55,755 --> 01:44:58,424
social media civic, ready and

3298
01:44:58,424 --> 01:44:59,125
future radio announcements

3299
01:44:59,125 --> 01:45:02,725
more to come and be published

3300
01:45:03,496 --> 01:45:04,764
on that. In addition, 7 Santa

3301
01:45:04,764 --> 01:45:05,564
Rosa police officers were

3302
01:45:05,564 --> 01:45:07,964
honored by Mothers Against

3303
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,369
Drunk Driving for their dui

3304
01:45:10,369 --> 01:45:12,369
enforcement efforts in 2025.

3305
01:45:13,873 --> 01:45:15,741
The Srpd made 614 dui arrests

3306
01:45:15,741 --> 01:45:18,141
with the 7 recognized officers

3307
01:45:18,278 --> 01:45:20,450
accounting for nearly 60% of

3308
01:45:20,450 --> 01:45:22,150
that total honorees included

3309
01:45:22,150 --> 01:45:23,683
Officer Anthony Metairie,

3310
01:45:23,683 --> 01:45:25,683
Officer Brendan Sawyer,

3311
01:45:27,186 --> 01:45:29,122
Officer Chase McIntyre officer

3312
01:45:29,122 --> 01:45:31,522
John Fisher. Officer Hannah

3313
01:45:31,858 --> 01:45:34,258
Combs. Officer Diego Asensio

3314
01:45:35,929 --> 01:45:38,640
and Officer Mike meager

3315
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:38,731
Officer Anthony Metairie

3316
01:45:38,731 --> 01:45:40,731
receive special recognition

3317
01:45:41,670 --> 01:45:41,701
for making more than 100 dui

3318
01:45:41,701 --> 01:45:44,101
arrests and recording the

3319
01:45:44,237 --> 01:45:45,304
third-highest total in

3320
01:45:45,304 --> 01:45:45,838
Northern California. The these

3321
01:45:45,838 --> 01:45:46,439
awards reflect the

3322
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:48,207
department's continued

3323
01:45:48,207 --> 01:45:49,409
commitment to traffic safety

3324
01:45:49,409 --> 01:45:50,109
impaired, driving enforcement

3325
01:45:50,109 --> 01:45:52,509
and reducing traffic related

3326
01:45:52,912 --> 01:45:54,714
injuries and fatalities. Thank

3327
01:45:54,714 --> 01:45:55,447
you all to those 7 officers

3328
01:45:55,447 --> 01:45:58,952
for their hard and continue to

3329
01:45:58,952 --> 01:45:59,652
work. I'm also happy to share

3330
01:45:59,652 --> 01:46:01,955
that the Ross Street

3331
01:46:01,955 --> 01:46:02,655
activation is now underway,

3332
01:46:02,655 --> 01:46:03,356
bringing new energy activity

3333
01:46:03,356 --> 01:46:04,924
and opportunities to connect

3334
01:46:04,924 --> 01:46:06,959
in the heart of downtown Santa

3335
01:46:06,959 --> 01:46:09,296
Rosa through OCTOBER 31st. The

3336
01:46:09,296 --> 01:46:09,996
east side of Ross Street will

3337
01:46:09,996 --> 01:46:11,498
serve as a vibrant community

3338
01:46:11,498 --> 01:46:13,499
gathering space featuring live

3339
01:46:13,499 --> 01:46:14,234
music lunchtime, food trucks

3340
01:46:14,234 --> 01:46:15,435
and family-friendly activities

3341
01:46:15,435 --> 01:46:16,303
designed to welcome residents

3342
01:46:16,303 --> 01:46:18,703
and visitors while supporting

3343
01:46:19,380 --> 01:46:20,974
our downtown businesses. We

3344
01:46:20,974 --> 01:46:21,808
are proud to support this

3345
01:46:21,808 --> 01:46:22,776
effort through funding

3346
01:46:22,776 --> 01:46:24,411
partnership and coordination

3347
01:46:24,411 --> 01:46:26,546
assistance from our Economic

3348
01:46:26,546 --> 01:46:27,246
Development division. This

3349
01:46:27,246 --> 01:46:28,248
activation reflects the power

3350
01:46:28,248 --> 01:46:29,416
of collaboration and we

3351
01:46:29,416 --> 01:46:31,751
appreciate the many but

3352
01:46:31,751 --> 01:46:33,653
downtown businesses, community

3353
01:46:33,653 --> 01:46:34,721
partners and event. Organizers

3354
01:46:34,721 --> 01:46:36,756
who helped bring this vision

3355
01:46:36,756 --> 01:46:37,624
to life. And I encourage

3356
01:46:37,624 --> 01:46:39,590
everyone to visit downtown,

3357
01:46:39,590 --> 01:46:39,759
enjoy the activities and

3358
01:46:39,759 --> 01:46:40,860
support our local businesses

3359
01:46:40,860 --> 01:46:43,260
through the activation period

3360
01:46:43,729 --> 01:46:45,832
for more information visit

3361
01:46:45,832 --> 01:46:48,832
downtown Santa Rosa Dot Org.

3362
01:46:49,669 --> 01:46:50,704
And I have one more mayor. I

3363
01:46:50,704 --> 01:46:52,539
am pleased to announce that

3364
01:46:52,539 --> 01:46:54,340
the registration is now open

3365
01:46:54,340 --> 01:46:55,241
for fall into fitness. These

3366
01:46:55,241 --> 01:46:58,841
are free class demo day taking

3367
01:46:59,112 --> 01:47:00,446
place on SEPTEMBER. 19th at

3368
01:47:00,446 --> 01:47:02,215
the Finley Community Center.

3369
01:47:02,215 --> 01:47:03,417
This Free Community event

3370
01:47:03,417 --> 01:47:05,419
invites adults and seniors to

3371
01:47:05,419 --> 01:47:06,119
explore a variety of exercise

3372
01:47:06,119 --> 01:47:09,119
and dance classes designed to

3373
01:47:09,289 --> 01:47:11,425
support a healthy heart body

3374
01:47:11,425 --> 01:47:12,492
and mind participants can

3375
01:47:12,492 --> 01:47:14,594
register for up to 3 classes

3376
01:47:14,594 --> 01:47:15,328
at no cost through advanced

3377
01:47:15,328 --> 01:47:17,328
registration, although advance

3378
01:47:18,398 --> 01:47:19,320
registration is required.

3379
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:19,699
Fallen to fitness is made

3380
01:47:19,699 --> 01:47:22,990
possible through measure m

3381
01:47:22,536 --> 01:47:23,237
Parks for all which supports

3382
01:47:23,237 --> 01:47:25,637
parks and recreation programs

3383
01:47:26,440 --> 01:47:27,440
through Sonoma County to view

3384
01:47:27,440 --> 01:47:29,709
available classes and register

3385
01:47:29,709 --> 01:47:30,610
visit sr City dot org forward

3386
01:47:30,610 --> 01:47:31,311
slash calendar and we hope

3387
01:47:31,311 --> 01:47:33,814
you'll join us at the Finley

3388
01:47:33,814 --> 01:47:35,480
Community Center on SEPTEMBER.

3389
01:47:35,480 --> 01:47:37,818
19th. Thank you, mayor. That

3390
01:47:37,818 --> 01:47:38,919
concludes my report. Good up.

3391
01:47:38,919 --> 01:47:39,619
A good update. We are a

3392
01:47:39,619 --> 01:47:40,354
healthier and safer city with

3393
01:47:40,354 --> 01:47:42,622
a higher credit rating. That's

3394
01:47:42,622 --> 01:47:43,289
our report for this.

3395
01:47:43,289 --> 01:47:45,289
>> This meeting? Excellent.

3396
01:47:45,959 --> 01:47:46,994
Alright. MADAM City Attorney.

3397
01:47:46,994 --> 01:47:47,761
>> Thank you, mayor of a

3398
01:47:47,761 --> 01:47:49,529
report of settlements and

3399
01:47:49,529 --> 01:47:50,264
active litigation. There are

3400
01:47:50,264 --> 01:47:51,565
no settlements or judgments to

3401
01:47:51,565 --> 01:47:54,534
report out for the month of

3402
01:47:54,534 --> 01:47:56,636
JULY. As of 8/6/2026, are

3403
01:47:56,636 --> 01:47:58,572
active. Caseload was 33

3404
01:47:58,572 --> 01:47:59,306
litigation matters with child

3405
01:47:59,306 --> 01:48:01,108
eats assigned to approximately

3406
01:48:01,108 --> 01:48:03,177
25% of the trial court level

3407
01:48:03,177 --> 01:48:04,780
matters. 4 cases are currently

3408
01:48:04,780 --> 01:48:06,347
on appeal following rulings in

3409
01:48:06,347 --> 01:48:08,515
favor of the city at the trial

3410
01:48:08,515 --> 01:48:10,150
court level and the litigation

3411
01:48:10,150 --> 01:48:10,918
report is attached to the

3412
01:48:10,918 --> 01:48:11,652
agenda materials and I have

3413
01:48:11,652 --> 01:48:14,652
nothing further to report this

3414
01:48:14,955 --> 01:48:15,655
evening. Thank you. Thank you

3415
01:48:15,655 --> 01:48:16,357
very much the public comment.

3416
01:48:16,357 --> 01:48:17,925
Are there any members of the

3417
01:48:17,925 --> 01:48:18,626
public who wish to comment on

3418
01:48:18,626 --> 01:48:21,626
either of these reports, MR.

3419
01:48:27,735 --> 01:48:29,735
Do it.

3420
01:48:29,937 --> 01:48:31,380
>> Hello, my name is Dwayne

3421
01:48:31,380 --> 01:48:33,507
from Roseland. Thank you. For

3422
01:48:33,507 --> 01:48:34,541
those recent reports from the

3423
01:48:34,541 --> 01:48:37,541
interim city manager and the

3424
01:48:39,246 --> 01:48:39,980
attorney. It's nice to hear

3425
01:48:39,980 --> 01:48:42,980
that they'll be a meeting

3426
01:48:43,684 --> 01:48:44,351
about the flock cameras. This

3427
01:48:44,351 --> 01:48:46,653
has become an issue that's

3428
01:48:46,653 --> 01:48:48,122
growing for a number of

3429
01:48:48,122 --> 01:48:48,889
people. And I'm hoping as

3430
01:48:48,889 --> 01:48:51,889
specially because the chief of

3431
01:48:52,793 --> 01:48:53,460
police is come by tonight.

3432
01:48:53,460 --> 01:48:56,397
That he'll make a point of

3433
01:48:56,397 --> 01:48:57,131
making sure the meeting is set

3434
01:48:57,131 --> 01:49:00,701
up so that half of the time is

3435
01:49:00,701 --> 01:49:01,402
for the residents. I've been

3436
01:49:01,402 --> 01:49:05,200
to a number of city meetings

3437
01:49:06,607 --> 01:49:07,975
over the years and typically

3438
01:49:07,975 --> 01:49:09,443
evolves into the city, talking

3439
01:49:09,443 --> 01:49:11,312
at the people who've come

3440
01:49:11,312 --> 01:49:13,647
talking out a more given him

3441
01:49:13,647 --> 01:49:17,247
some more talk and you can

3442
01:49:17,285 --> 01:49:17,919
have a two-hour meeting. It

3443
01:49:17,919 --> 01:49:20,319
comprises one hour and 45

3444
01:49:21,188 --> 01:49:21,856
minutes. City staff and

3445
01:49:21,856 --> 01:49:22,723
different people talking to

3446
01:49:22,723 --> 01:49:25,723
the residents who then all

3447
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:27,995
they get 15 minutes. So the

3448
01:49:27,995 --> 01:49:30,995
whole flock camera issue has

3449
01:49:33,434 --> 01:49:34,168
become fraught with this,

3450
01:49:34,168 --> 01:49:34,802
understanding this information

3451
01:49:34,802 --> 01:49:37,472
and other things that are

3452
01:49:37,472 --> 01:49:40,600
problematic to folks in the

3453
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:41,442
community. So this would be

3454
01:49:41,442 --> 01:49:43,177
excellent opportunity for the

3455
01:49:43,177 --> 01:49:44,645
police department and city

3456
01:49:44,645 --> 01:49:47,450
staff, even elected officials

3457
01:49:49,283 --> 01:49:51,452
to be there and point out to

3458
01:49:51,452 --> 01:49:53,521
the community. It's what they

3459
01:49:53,521 --> 01:49:54,222
want. The community is asking

3460
01:49:54,222 --> 01:49:56,622
about information. They want

3461
01:49:58,126 --> 01:49:58,859
safety in the future and

3462
01:49:58,859 --> 01:50:02,459
explain how this might be able

3463
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:04,832
to deliver some of those. You

3464
01:50:04,832 --> 01:50:07,768
might call questions that come

3465
01:50:07,768 --> 01:50:10,168
from the greater community,

3466
01:50:11,239 --> 01:50:11,873
deliver answers for those. So

3467
01:50:11,873 --> 01:50:15,142
don't go in with a preset

3468
01:50:15,142 --> 01:50:16,944
agenda per se make to our

3469
01:50:16,944 --> 01:50:18,545
meeting one hour for the city

3470
01:50:18,545 --> 01:50:21,382
staff and one are for

3471
01:50:21,382 --> 01:50:22,950
community to talk and interact

3472
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:25,253
have it be an interactive

3473
01:50:25,253 --> 01:50:27,856
discussion. Not just one side

3474
01:50:27,856 --> 01:50:30,792
leads. Thank you kindly. Going

3475
01:50:30,792 --> 01:50:31,826
take you to Wayne.

3476
01:50:31,826 --> 01:50:32,460
>> Are there any other members

3477
01:50:32,460 --> 01:50:35,460
of the public in council

3478
01:50:36,331 --> 01:50:37,310
chambers who wish to speak?

3479
01:50:37,310 --> 01:50:37,832
Seeing none. We'll go online

3480
01:50:37,832 --> 01:50:38,499
if you're online was to make

3481
01:50:38,499 --> 01:50:39,133
public comment. This item,

3482
01:50:39,133 --> 01:50:42,133
please raise your hand or

3483
01:50:42,403 --> 01:50:44,272
press star 9. MADAM Zoom host.

3484
01:50:44,272 --> 01:50:45,205
Is there anybody with her hand

3485
01:50:45,205 --> 01:50:45,907
raised online?

3486
01:50:45,907 --> 01:50:48,242
>> Thank you, Mayor. We have

3487
01:50:48,242 --> 01:50:48,543
no one wishing to speak on

3488
01:50:48,543 --> 01:50:49,377
Zoom.

3489
01:50:49,377 --> 01:50:50,312
>> Thank you. We'll close

3490
01:50:50,312 --> 01:50:52,213
public comment on this item

3491
01:50:52,213 --> 01:50:53,581
and more on to item. 10

3492
01:50:53,581 --> 01:50:54,316
statements of abstention are

3493
01:50:54,316 --> 01:50:54,949
accused my council members. Do

3494
01:50:54,949 --> 01:50:55,550
we have any statements of

3495
01:50:55,550 --> 01:50:57,550
abstention recusal this

3496
01:51:00,255 --> 01:51:00,889
evening? Seeing none. On to

3497
01:51:00,889 --> 01:51:01,489
mayor and Councilmembers

3498
01:51:01,489 --> 01:51:04,489
reports. Do we have any

3499
01:51:04,559 --> 01:51:06,959
reports this evening? MR.

3500
01:51:08,163 --> 01:51:09,364
Donald kick us off.

3501
01:51:09,364 --> 01:51:10,731
>> Thank you, Mayor. I just

3502
01:51:10,731 --> 01:51:13,735
have a couple of things to

3503
01:51:13,735 --> 01:51:15,770
report out I was able to 10. I

3504
01:51:15,770 --> 01:51:19,370
think it was a last Wednesday

3505
01:51:19,774 --> 01:51:20,842
night market last week and see

3506
01:51:20,842 --> 01:51:24,112
drummer from Guns n Roses. So

3507
01:51:24,112 --> 01:51:24,979
if you know, I wasn't at the

3508
01:51:24,979 --> 01:51:27,379
really big event politically,

3509
01:51:28,650 --> 01:51:29,885
it's because I was listening

3510
01:51:29,885 --> 01:51:31,720
to that.

3511
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:33,221
>> I also want say

3512
01:51:33,221 --> 01:51:35,621
congratulations to the Rincon

3513
01:51:36,190 --> 01:51:36,892
Valley Library for their

3514
01:51:36,892 --> 01:51:39,194
amazing renovation. Open the

3515
01:51:39,194 --> 01:51:41,229
doors yesterday and and it

3516
01:51:41,229 --> 01:51:41,963
looks like a bookstore going

3517
01:51:41,963 --> 01:51:44,666
in there. They've done a great

3518
01:51:44,666 --> 01:51:45,934
job, making it a resource,

3519
01:51:45,934 --> 01:51:47,669
have for community members.

3520
01:51:47,669 --> 01:51:48,670
And I know a lot of students

3521
01:51:48,670 --> 01:51:49,405
go to that library after

3522
01:51:49,405 --> 01:51:52,107
school. And so I just want to

3523
01:51:52,107 --> 01:51:54,208
congratulate them. And thank

3524
01:51:54,208 --> 01:51:55,900
you for opportunity come and

3525
01:51:55,900 --> 01:51:56,144
speak to all the committee

3526
01:51:56,144 --> 01:51:56,945
members that were in

3527
01:51:56,945 --> 01:51:57,579
attendance. And thank you to

3528
01:51:57,579 --> 01:52:00,579
city manager net for his

3529
01:52:00,882 --> 01:52:02,882
attendance as well.

3530
01:52:04,119 --> 01:52:06,255
>> Thank you. Anyone else? I

3531
01:52:06,255 --> 01:52:08,890
want just bunch of real quick

3532
01:52:08,890 --> 01:52:08,790
items you mention, not every

3533
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:09,490
dimension police night out a

3534
01:52:09,490 --> 01:52:12,600
couple weeks ago when we had

3535
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:13,428
the police to put up a dames

3536
01:52:13,428 --> 01:52:14,263
again. Thanks, rpd for putting

3537
01:52:14,263 --> 01:52:15,998
together. We have hundreds of

3538
01:52:15,998 --> 01:52:18,132
people that that's that's a

3539
01:52:18,132 --> 01:52:20,680
great tradition. Thank you to

3540
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:21,436
city staff here as well as in

3541
01:52:21,436 --> 01:52:22,104
Rohnert Park in Windsor for

3542
01:52:22,104 --> 01:52:22,838
being part of the business

3543
01:52:22,838 --> 01:52:23,572
line. Sonoma County

3544
01:52:23,572 --> 01:52:26,408
presentation on where our city

3545
01:52:26,408 --> 01:52:27,710
budgets are right now as well

3546
01:52:27,710 --> 01:52:28,410
as the ballot tax measures and

3547
01:52:28,410 --> 01:52:31,410
a number of jurisdictions in

3548
01:52:31,846 --> 01:52:32,548
the county are going out with

3549
01:52:32,548 --> 01:52:34,483
it was well attended meeting.

3550
01:52:34,483 --> 01:52:35,117
We probably want to add 150

3551
01:52:35,117 --> 01:52:37,180
plus people. They're just

3552
01:52:37,180 --> 01:52:37,886
talking through municipal

3553
01:52:37,886 --> 01:52:39,388
municipal finances, both Santa

3554
01:52:39,388 --> 01:52:40,880
Rosa and our and our

3555
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:42,488
neighboring cities. That was

3556
01:52:43,359 --> 01:52:44,627
an important meeting. We did

3557
01:52:44,627 --> 01:52:46,428
have the Clean Power Board

3558
01:52:46,428 --> 01:52:47,630
meeting a couple weeks ago.

3559
01:52:47,630 --> 01:52:48,897
Interesting subject discussed

3560
01:52:48,897 --> 01:52:50,699
the cost of electric

3561
01:52:50,699 --> 01:52:51,833
electrification for

3562
01:52:51,833 --> 01:52:53,135
lower-income neighborhoods. So

3563
01:52:53,135 --> 01:52:53,902
think about the lower income

3564
01:52:53,902 --> 01:52:56,302
neighborhoods and our county.

3565
01:52:56,872 --> 01:52:58,206
How do we give them the get

3566
01:52:58,206 --> 01:52:59,400
those neighborhoods, the

3567
01:52:59,400 --> 01:52:59,708
benefits ev of solar cells of

3568
01:52:59,708 --> 01:53:01,708
more reliable electricity,

3569
01:53:02,912 --> 01:53:03,612
lower electric costs. Sonoma,

3570
01:53:03,612 --> 01:53:04,379
clean power as ever is ahead

3571
01:53:04,379 --> 01:53:05,314
of the curve and trying to

3572
01:53:05,314 --> 01:53:08,283
figure out how we make that

3573
01:53:08,283 --> 01:53:09,585
happen here in our county in a

3574
01:53:09,585 --> 01:53:10,653
And of course, the fair I know

3575
01:53:10,653 --> 01:53:12,860
the county tries to end game,

3576
01:53:12,860 --> 01:53:12,755
for the fair, but we had 10

3577
01:53:12,755 --> 01:53:13,455
days of the fair. And that

3578
01:53:13,455 --> 01:53:16,455
really happens in Santa Rosa

3579
01:53:16,725 --> 01:53:17,459
as everybody knows. Attendance

3580
01:53:17,459 --> 01:53:18,127
was good. It was a lot of What

3581
01:53:18,127 --> 01:53:21,727
a what a great addition for

3582
01:53:22,398 --> 01:53:24,433
the county. A week ago we had

3583
01:53:24,433 --> 01:53:26,702
this change council chamber

3584
01:53:26,702 --> 01:53:27,403
right here was full MARCH. The

3585
01:53:27,403 --> 01:53:30,403
7th and 8th graders actually

3586
01:53:30,406 --> 01:53:32,742
3rd through 8th graders who

3587
01:53:32,742 --> 01:53:33,376
were who had were winners in

3588
01:53:33,376 --> 01:53:35,110
the read on Sonoma County

3589
01:53:35,110 --> 01:53:36,145
reading effort across the

3590
01:53:36,145 --> 01:53:37,713
county. They chose to come

3591
01:53:37,713 --> 01:53:39,916
here and learn about city

3592
01:53:39,916 --> 01:53:40,883
government. It's a great

3593
01:53:40,883 --> 01:53:41,784
program county wide. They're

3594
01:53:41,784 --> 01:53:43,786
going about 7,000 kids in

3595
01:53:43,786 --> 01:53:46,186
Sonoma County participating re

3596
01:53:46,822 --> 01:53:48,557
on Sonoma. Again, to encourage

3597
01:53:48,557 --> 01:53:49,291
reading for encourage reading

3598
01:53:49,291 --> 01:53:52,295
skills. So kudos to that and

3599
01:53:52,295 --> 01:53:53,295
to the school districts who

3600
01:53:53,295 --> 01:53:55,970
are involved. And then finally

3601
01:53:55,970 --> 01:53:57,366
an unusual conversation this

3602
01:53:57,366 --> 01:53:59,869
week I was at San Quentin on

3603
01:53:59,869 --> 01:54:01,300
Saturday and found myself in

3604
01:54:01,300 --> 01:54:02,338
policy conversations with

3605
01:54:02,338 --> 01:54:02,972
relevance to our vies for into

3606
01:54:02,972 --> 01:54:04,307
partnership. That's been

3607
01:54:04,307 --> 01:54:06,609
windows in this in this

3608
01:54:06,609 --> 01:54:08,210
Rogers, believe it or not, we

3609
01:54:08,210 --> 01:54:09,745
have we have a committed group

3610
01:54:09,745 --> 01:54:10,413
of men inside San Quentin who

3611
01:54:10,413 --> 01:54:12,614
wake up at 05:30am, in the

3612
01:54:12,614 --> 01:54:14,317
morning to watch our council

3613
01:54:14,317 --> 01:54:15,500
meetings. And so when I'm in

3614
01:54:15,500 --> 01:54:18,500
there, too, with my basketball

3615
01:54:18,687 --> 01:54:19,756
team to play basketball, a

3616
01:54:19,756 --> 01:54:21,724
policy session sometimes

3617
01:54:21,724 --> 01:54:22,792
emerges and this time around

3618
01:54:22,792 --> 01:54:24,761
what was concerning for for

3619
01:54:24,761 --> 01:54:26,963
the for the colleagues I was

3620
01:54:26,963 --> 01:54:27,729
with was on the increase in

3621
01:54:27,729 --> 01:54:30,566
gun violence in our area and

3622
01:54:30,566 --> 01:54:31,667
the increase in youth

3623
01:54:31,667 --> 01:54:34,670
violence. They've noticed that

3624
01:54:34,670 --> 01:54:35,438
and particularly some for some

3625
01:54:35,438 --> 01:54:36,773
residents, former residents of

3626
01:54:36,773 --> 01:54:37,406
Santa Rosa, Future residents

3627
01:54:37,406 --> 01:54:38,775
of Santa Rosa with their

3628
01:54:38,775 --> 01:54:41,775
family. Still here. Want to

3629
01:54:43,646 --> 01:54:45,748
know how they can help. So and

3630
01:54:45,748 --> 01:54:46,415
touching They mentioned that

3631
01:54:46,415 --> 01:54:49,415
they feel as though they've

3632
01:54:50,119 --> 01:54:50,820
participated, they they helped

3633
01:54:50,820 --> 01:54:52,288
create the conditions for the

3634
01:54:52,288 --> 01:54:53,222
problem that we're seeing here

3635
01:54:53,222 --> 01:54:54,324
and they want to they want to

3636
01:54:54,324 --> 01:54:55,240
give back in some way. And

3637
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:55,625
that led into a conversation

3638
01:54:55,625 --> 01:54:56,892
about what the violence

3639
01:54:56,892 --> 01:54:58,892
Prevention partnership does.

3640
01:55:00,863 --> 01:55:02,799
What are city Some discussion

3641
01:55:02,799 --> 01:55:03,899
of how they can participate

3642
01:55:03,899 --> 01:55:05,735
from San Quentin now with

3643
01:55:05,735 --> 01:55:06,736
their media labs in terms of

3644
01:55:06,736 --> 01:55:07,470
videos in terms of terms of

3645
01:55:07,470 --> 01:55:09,104
public presentations, how they

3646
01:55:09,104 --> 01:55:11,740
might how they might

3647
01:55:11,740 --> 01:55:13,740
participate. Much discussion

3648
01:55:13,209 --> 01:55:14,344
about what Srpd has done, what

3649
01:55:14,344 --> 01:55:18,114
we have done here in terms of

3650
01:55:18,114 --> 01:55:19,248
gun seizures in terms of terms

3651
01:55:19,248 --> 01:55:21,117
ghost lab, ghost manufacturing

3652
01:55:21,117 --> 01:55:24,117
arrests, et cetera. They were

3653
01:55:24,853 --> 01:55:25,622
glad to hear that news. But

3654
01:55:25,622 --> 01:55:28,220
again, it turned into

3655
01:55:28,758 --> 01:55:30,758
substantive conversation. So

3656
01:55:31,270 --> 01:55:31,728
shout out to Johnny and Jonas

3657
01:55:31,728 --> 01:55:32,762
to residents to 2 individuals

3658
01:55:32,762 --> 01:55:33,663
will be coming back to our

3659
01:55:33,663 --> 01:55:36,663
city Sunday. We're ready to

3660
01:55:37,501 --> 01:55:38,501
worry to plug you in. And then

3661
01:55:38,501 --> 01:55:40,670
the San Quentin Kings, the

3662
01:55:40,670 --> 01:55:41,771
name of the team we play when

3663
01:55:41,771 --> 01:55:44,373
we go in, they would want it

3664
01:55:44,373 --> 01:55:45,800
noted for the city record that

3665
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:46,376
they did actually because

3666
01:55:46,376 --> 01:55:47,143
pretty badly in and in a

3667
01:55:47,143 --> 01:55:50,143
basketball game, it wasn't. It

3668
01:55:51,147 --> 01:55:54,840
wasn't very close this time

3669
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:54,784
around by 2 long. But 2

3670
01:55:54,784 --> 01:55:55,685
longtime friends, their land

3671
01:55:55,685 --> 01:55:56,553
cookie. I want to also be on

3672
01:55:56,553 --> 01:55:57,853
the record that I outscored

3673
01:55:57,853 --> 01:55:59,220
both of them, even though I

3674
01:55:59,220 --> 01:56:01,825
was injured. So if our minutes

3675
01:56:01,825 --> 01:56:03,326
could reflect And and to that

3676
01:56:03,326 --> 01:56:05,726
to the gentleman watching,

3677
01:56:06,263 --> 01:56:07,998
first of all, good morning.

3678
01:56:07,998 --> 01:56:08,698
Thank you. Thank you tuning in

3679
01:56:08,698 --> 01:56:10,900
for interest in the city and

3680
01:56:10,900 --> 01:56:13,837
I'll see you in SEPTEMBER.

3681
01:56:13,837 --> 01:56:15,971
That concludes our report. Any

3682
01:56:15,971 --> 01:56:18,971
public comment on these items?

3683
01:56:20,777 --> 01:56:21,511
In council chambers MADAM

3684
01:56:21,511 --> 01:56:23,480
Zuma, host is any online, have

3685
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,480
their hands raised?

3686
01:56:26,649 --> 01:56:27,226
>> Nobody is commenting on

3687
01:56:27,226 --> 01:56:27,784
zoom.

3688
01:56:27,784 --> 01:56:30,184
>> We'll close public comment.

3689
01:56:32,122 --> 01:56:33,256
We will move on to item 11.2.

3690
01:56:33,256 --> 01:56:34,570
We have a few of us here who

3691
01:56:34,570 --> 01:56:37,570
are going to California cities

3692
01:56:37,661 --> 01:56:39,696
in a couple of weeks and we

3693
01:56:39,696 --> 01:56:42,696
need we need delegate voting

3694
01:56:44,434 --> 01:56:46,403
rights to a few of them. And

3695
01:56:46,403 --> 01:56:47,370
so MR. Dunham internal review

3696
01:56:47,370 --> 01:56:47,638
from for a motion for our

3697
01:56:47,638 --> 01:56:49,638
undesignated voter and

3698
01:56:50,874 --> 01:56:52,874
alternate.

3699
01:56:54,100 --> 01:56:55,278
>> Thank you, I move to

3700
01:56:55,278 --> 01:56:56,579
designate Councilmember Rogers

3701
01:56:56,579 --> 01:56:58,979
as voting delicate and

3702
01:56:59,283 --> 01:57:01,151
councilmember Alvarez and

3703
01:57:01,151 --> 01:57:02,190
myself as the 2 alternatives

3704
01:57:02,190 --> 01:57:04,555
for the upcoming Cal City

3705
01:57:04,555 --> 01:57:05,189
Conference. Second that.

3706
01:57:05,189 --> 01:57:07,558
>> We have a motion and a

3707
01:57:07,558 --> 01:57:10,558
second. Any public comment on

3708
01:57:13,464 --> 01:57:16,233
this item? In council chambers

3709
01:57:16,233 --> 01:57:18,350
anybody online, MADAM To host.

3710
01:57:18,350 --> 01:57:18,468
>> Nobody is raising their

3711
01:57:18,468 --> 01:57:19,436
hand online.

3712
01:57:19,436 --> 01:57:22,205
>> we have a motion. A second

3713
01:57:22,205 --> 01:57:25,900
City clerk call the vote.

3714
01:57:25,900 --> 01:57:26,176
>> Thank you, Mayor

3715
01:57:26,176 --> 01:57:26,844
Councilmember Rogers, I

3716
01:57:26,844 --> 01:57:28,844
Councilmember MacDonald by

3717
01:57:30,147 --> 01:57:30,881
Councilmember Councilmember

3718
01:57:30,881 --> 01:57:33,317
Ben Yes, councilmember over as

3719
01:57:33,317 --> 01:57:36,152
our vice Cookie. I mayor step

3720
01:57:36,152 --> 01:57:37,154
yes. Let the record show this

3721
01:57:37,154 --> 01:57:38,880
passes unanimously.

3722
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:40,488
>> Thank you, Ron 12 approval

3723
01:57:41,191 --> 01:57:42,759
of minutes. We have 2 sets of

3724
01:57:42,759 --> 01:57:43,727
minutes. Our JULY 2026 regular

3725
01:57:43,727 --> 01:57:45,663
meeting minutes and AUGUST

3726
01:57:45,663 --> 01:57:46,597
4th, 2026 regular meeting

3727
01:57:46,597 --> 01:57:48,499
minutes. Are there any

3728
01:57:48,499 --> 01:57:49,199
amendments or corrections to

3729
01:57:49,199 --> 01:57:52,199
these minutes? Looking to my

3730
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:57,400
colleagues. So we do an

3731
01:57:57,700 --> 01:57:57,541
extension. You want to make

3732
01:57:57,541 --> 01:57:58,109
that announcement?

3733
01:57:58,109 --> 01:57:58,909
>> I need to abstain,

3734
01:57:58,909 --> 01:58:00,344
apologize for not saying it

3735
01:58:00,344 --> 01:58:03,344
earlier for the obvious 4th

3736
01:58:05,649 --> 01:58:06,450
meeting as I was out of town.

3737
01:58:06,450 --> 01:58:08,386
>> Thank you. All right. Any

3738
01:58:08,386 --> 01:58:10,386
other corrections or

3739
01:58:10,654 --> 01:58:11,355
amendments seeing none over

3740
01:58:11,355 --> 01:58:13,390
the public comment in council

3741
01:58:13,390 --> 01:58:14,240
chambers? Are there any

3742
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:14,725
members of the public who

3743
01:58:14,725 --> 01:58:15,392
would like to make comment on

3744
01:58:15,392 --> 01:58:18,992
either set or either set of

3745
01:58:19,363 --> 01:58:20,640
minutes? Seeing none in

3746
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:21,531
council chambers. MADAM Zoom

3747
01:58:21,531 --> 01:58:22,320
host, anybody online with her

3748
01:58:22,320 --> 01:58:22,732
hand raised.

3749
01:58:22,732 --> 01:58:25,732
>> We have no public comment

3750
01:58:26,504 --> 01:58:27,604
via them.

3751
01:58:27,604 --> 01:58:30,508
>> Thank you. All right. Then

3752
01:58:30,508 --> 01:58:31,342
Ms MacDonald stipulation that

3753
01:58:31,342 --> 01:58:32,109
she is that she's abstaining

3754
01:58:32,109 --> 01:58:32,777
from item. 12.2 will be will

3755
01:58:32,777 --> 01:58:35,777
adopt both those minutes as

3756
01:58:36,948 --> 01:58:39,160
submitted. And move on to

3757
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:41,416
consent. We have items 13.1

3758
01:58:41,519 --> 01:58:42,119
through 13.6. Are there any

3759
01:58:42,119 --> 01:58:42,820
questions regarding the

3760
01:58:42,820 --> 01:58:45,220
consent calendar, anything to

3761
01:58:48,526 --> 01:58:49,327
be pulled? Seeing? None. What

3762
01:58:49,327 --> 01:58:50,394
a public comment winning

3763
01:58:50,394 --> 01:58:51,896
numbers. The public like to

3764
01:58:51,896 --> 01:58:54,896
make comment on consent, MR.

3765
01:59:02,773 --> 01:59:03,608
Do it. You have the floor.

3766
01:59:03,608 --> 01:59:07,208
>> Hello. My name is Dwayne Do

3767
01:59:07,611 --> 01:59:08,779
it. I'm from Roseland I'm

3768
01:59:08,779 --> 01:59:10,448
definitely concerned and

3769
01:59:10,448 --> 01:59:12,183
hopeful that the downtown

3770
01:59:12,183 --> 01:59:13,450
connectivity to support

3771
01:59:13,450 --> 01:59:15,850
housing density is actually

3772
01:59:16,870 --> 01:59:16,955
going to occur and bring good

3773
01:59:16,955 --> 01:59:19,355
things forward since sizable

3774
01:59:19,390 --> 01:59:20,691
amount of money that's being

3775
01:59:20,691 --> 01:59:24,291
spent and one of the things

3776
01:59:24,829 --> 01:59:25,463
that we hear often is that we

3777
01:59:25,463 --> 01:59:27,863
want more housing density

3778
01:59:29,367 --> 01:59:30,735
downtown. But we haven't been

3779
01:59:30,735 --> 01:59:31,569
getting it. It's a matter of

3780
01:59:31,569 --> 01:59:33,604
fact. People in the past that

3781
01:59:33,604 --> 01:59:35,139
have come here before and told

3782
01:59:35,139 --> 01:59:37,800
you they're going to do

3783
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:38,676
projects to get more housing

3784
01:59:38,676 --> 01:59:40,678
downtown, then return and say,

3785
01:59:40,678 --> 01:59:43,481
well, it didn't pencil out so

3786
01:59:43,481 --> 01:59:45,349
we didn't do it and we don't

3787
01:59:45,349 --> 01:59:46,985
get that housing that's

3788
01:59:46,985 --> 01:59:48,887
promised. This is the kind of

3789
01:59:48,887 --> 01:59:50,854
stuff that needs to be paid

3790
01:59:50,854 --> 01:59:53,190
attention to you. Folks need

3791
01:59:53,190 --> 01:59:55,994
to keep a tight rein on what

3792
01:59:55,994 --> 01:59:56,661
kind of promises you take.

3793
01:59:56,661 --> 01:59:59,197
It's a matter of fact. You

3794
01:59:59,197 --> 02:00:01,899
know, there's a term he caught

3795
02:00:01,899 --> 02:00:04,299
a proverb, actually, perhaps

3796
02:00:06,370 --> 02:00:08,840
once burned, twice shy. So you

3797
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:09,541
could be looking different

3798
02:00:09,541 --> 02:00:10,208
developer that MAY come here

3799
02:00:10,208 --> 02:00:12,177
and say we're going to get

3800
02:00:12,177 --> 02:00:14,279
more housing downtown. We're

3801
02:00:14,279 --> 02:00:15,212
going to increase that housing

3802
02:00:15,212 --> 02:00:18,150
density and make sure that you

3803
02:00:18,150 --> 02:00:19,918
get it in writing because

3804
02:00:19,918 --> 02:00:20,651
apparently that hasn't

3805
02:00:20,651 --> 02:00:22,320
occurred before and that's why

3806
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:24,589
they've been able to slip

3807
02:00:24,589 --> 02:00:28,189
through, if you will, and that

3808
02:00:28,193 --> 02:00:28,893
we don't get that housing.

3809
02:00:28,893 --> 02:00:31,293
That whole dilemma didn't

3810
02:00:33,931 --> 02:00:35,767
pencil out. So as this goes

3811
02:00:35,767 --> 02:00:36,401
forward, which is 13.3 kind of

3812
02:00:36,401 --> 02:00:39,401
an ominous number, if you

3813
02:00:40,639 --> 02:00:41,373
will. You'll make sure that

3814
02:00:41,373 --> 02:00:43,773
somehow these people that

3815
02:00:45,477 --> 02:00:48,477
build this project for 13 can

3816
02:00:50,716 --> 02:00:51,549
be 3.7, 7, 9, 141,000. That's

3817
02:00:51,549 --> 02:00:54,549
a lot of money. 3 million,

3818
02:00:54,986 --> 02:00:55,720
almost 4 million dollars.

3819
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:56,388
Gonna show somehow that we get

3820
02:00:56,388 --> 02:00:58,788
that housing density. Thank

3821
02:01:00,792 --> 02:01:01,459
you. Thank you to Wayne. Any

3822
02:01:01,459 --> 02:01:02,194
other members of the public

3823
02:01:02,194 --> 02:01:04,763
like to comment on the consent

3824
02:01:04,763 --> 02:01:05,998
calendar.

3825
02:01:05,998 --> 02:01:08,367
>> Seeing none in council

3826
02:01:08,367 --> 02:01:09,300
chambers met MADAM Zuma, host,

3827
02:01:09,300 --> 02:01:10,200
anybody online.

3828
02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:12,304
>> Thank you, Mayor. We have

3829
02:01:12,304 --> 02:01:12,638
no one raising their hand

3830
02:01:12,638 --> 02:01:13,405
online.

3831
02:01:13,405 --> 02:01:14,172
>> Thank you. We'll close

3832
02:01:14,172 --> 02:01:17,175
public comment and I look to

3833
02:01:17,175 --> 02:01:18,309
vice mayor creepy for motion.

3834
02:01:18,309 --> 02:01:20,312
I move to adopt consent items.

3835
02:01:20,312 --> 02:01:20,646
13.1 through submitted by

3836
02:01:20,646 --> 02:01:22,646
staff.

3837
02:01:24,383 --> 02:01:25,830
>> Second, it. When I was

3838
02:01:25,830 --> 02:01:26,552
close talking about what MR.

3839
02:01:26,552 --> 02:01:27,652
Alvarez with a motion and a

3840
02:01:27,652 --> 02:01:29,388
second, MADAM City clerk, you

3841
02:01:29,388 --> 02:01:30,122
can call a vote whenever

3842
02:01:30,122 --> 02:01:33,122
you're ready. Thank you. Mayor

3843
02:01:33,859 --> 02:01:35,859
Councilmember Rogers.

3844
02:01:36,929 --> 02:01:37,996
>> Councilmember MacDonald, I

3845
02:01:37,996 --> 02:01:39,640
councilmember Fleming

3846
02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:40,650
Councilmember Ben Willows.

3847
02:01:40,650 --> 02:01:42,465
Yes, councilmember over vice

3848
02:01:43,102 --> 02:01:46,102
Cookie. I mean, your step?

3849
02:01:46,171 --> 02:01:47,172
Yes. Let the record show this

3850
02:01:47,172 --> 02:01:47,906
passes unanimously.

3851
02:01:47,906 --> 02:01:50,875
>> Thank you very rights where

3852
02:01:50,875 --> 02:01:52,277
we are just a few minutes

3853
02:01:52,277 --> 02:01:54,780
before 5. You know what? Let's

3854
02:01:54,780 --> 02:01:55,447
let's move right into our

3855
02:01:55,447 --> 02:01:58,447
report item for the evening

3856
02:01:58,717 --> 02:01:59,451
item. 15.1. Our report

3857
02:01:59,451 --> 02:02:00,118
regarding the approval of Real

3858
02:02:00,118 --> 02:02:02,118
property Exchange agreement

3859
02:02:05,591 --> 02:02:06,691
for City Hall campus, 9100

3860
02:02:06,691 --> 02:02:08,193
Senators Avenue and a portion

3861
02:02:08,193 --> 02:02:11,193
of that. And then 6.30, per 6,

3862
02:02:13,799 --> 02:02:14,499
3, 6, 5, 5 for street and 5

3863
02:02:14,499 --> 02:02:15,100
23rd Street with a decoration

3864
02:02:15,100 --> 02:02:17,500
exempt surplus land and

3865
02:02:22,774 --> 02:02:23,509
related actions. A

3866
02:02:23,509 --> 02:02:26,212
high-profile item for those of

3867
02:02:26,212 --> 02:02:26,846
you read the papers. Thank you

3868
02:02:26,846 --> 02:02:28,547
for it. To all those who

3869
02:02:28,547 --> 02:02:29,247
showed up tonight to talk

3870
02:02:29,247 --> 02:02:31,647
through this. It's important

3871
02:02:39,892 --> 02:02:43,492
for the city. MISS Scott, MR.

3872
02:02:47,233 --> 02:02:47,867
Wagner, MR. Hennessey.

3873
02:02:47,867 --> 02:02:48,968
>> Good Evening. Council

3874
02:02:48,968 --> 02:02:49,635
members. We are happy to be

3875
02:02:49,635 --> 02:02:50,903
here tonight. Excited to be

3876
02:02:50,903 --> 02:02:52,570
here tonight to talk to

3877
02:02:52,570 --> 02:02:54,970
addressing the city hall

3878
02:02:55,274 --> 02:02:57,143
liability and the proposed

3879
02:02:57,143 --> 02:02:58,611
exchange agreement. I am Jill

3880
02:02:58,611 --> 02:02:59,512
Scott, the city's real

3881
02:02:59,512 --> 02:03:02,512
property manager start off the

3882
02:03:02,681 --> 02:03:04,160
discussion. I'm here with our

3883
02:03:04,160 --> 02:03:05,985
deputy director or excuse

3884
02:03:05,985 --> 02:03:08,654
director of just give it a

3885
02:03:08,654 --> 02:03:09,288
motion. Our director of

3886
02:03:09,288 --> 02:03:11,288
transportation and public

3887
02:03:12,458 --> 02:03:15,458
works and cfo, MISTER Wagner.

3888
02:03:15,628 --> 02:03:17,663
We also have our consulting

3889
02:03:17,663 --> 02:03:19,331
law firm bk in in the audience

3890
02:03:19,331 --> 02:03:20,660
to help us out with any

3891
02:03:20,660 --> 02:03:22,466
questions they've been working

3892
02:03:23,703 --> 02:03:25,671
with us to this whole process.

3893
02:03:25,671 --> 02:03:26,771
>> So just going to go over a

3894
02:03:26,771 --> 02:03:27,773
little road map of how the

3895
02:03:27,773 --> 02:03:29,800
presentation is going to go

3896
02:03:29,800 --> 02:03:31,110
because it's a little We want

3897
02:03:31,110 --> 02:03:31,744
to make sure we had all the

3898
02:03:31,744 --> 02:03:34,144
points. Any answers. Many

3899
02:03:37,116 --> 02:03:38,518
questions as we can. Rt Pw

3900
02:03:38,518 --> 02:03:40,190
Tractor Director Hennessy is

3901
02:03:40,190 --> 02:03:40,719
going to start out with the

3902
02:03:40,719 --> 02:03:41,420
liability and what's going on

3903
02:03:41,420 --> 02:03:45,200
at the city Hall campus right

3904
02:03:46,125 --> 02:03:48,261
now. Our cfo is go through the

3905
02:03:48,261 --> 02:03:49,829
fiscal impact. Then I minister

3906
02:03:49,829 --> 02:03:52,980
with salt alternatives that

3907
02:03:52,980 --> 02:03:54,132
we've considered the exchange

3908
02:03:54,132 --> 02:03:55,668
itself the transaction and

3909
02:03:55,668 --> 02:03:56,235
what it looks like and how the

3910
02:03:56,235 --> 02:03:58,235
improvements and the

3911
02:03:58,805 --> 02:04:01,205
transition would go. They're

3912
02:04:01,573 --> 02:04:02,875
going turn it back over to cfo

3913
02:04:02,875 --> 02:04:03,576
Wagner to go through the

3914
02:04:03,576 --> 02:04:05,976
financial review and the

3915
02:04:06,790 --> 02:04:08,479
proposed council action. So

3916
02:04:10,583 --> 02:04:13,583
next slide to MR. Hennessey.

3917
02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:16,720
>> Good afternoon Council. As

3918
02:04:17,223 --> 02:04:20,326
a slide on for a new shows. We

3919
02:04:20,326 --> 02:04:23,926
have more than 9 figures in my

3920
02:04:24,430 --> 02:04:26,266
ability on the That doesn't

3921
02:04:26,266 --> 02:04:27,433
happen overnight. That is not

3922
02:04:27,433 --> 02:04:30,136
specifically my fault or your

3923
02:04:30,136 --> 02:04:30,837
fault. This is a generational

3924
02:04:30,837 --> 02:04:33,372
issue that has happened over

3925
02:04:33,372 --> 02:04:36,342
decades. What we have figured

3926
02:04:36,342 --> 02:04:40,212
out, though, is how to fix it.

3927
02:04:40,212 --> 02:04:41,347
And I walk through some of the

3928
02:04:41,347 --> 02:04:42,415
specific issues. It is our

3929
02:04:42,415 --> 02:04:44,617
million dollars needed to fix

3930
02:04:44,617 --> 02:04:47,617
these buildings for a variety

3931
02:04:49,489 --> 02:04:50,724
of things from structural

3932
02:04:50,724 --> 02:04:51,424
repairs to sewer and water

3933
02:04:51,424 --> 02:04:54,424
issues and ada issues amongst

3934
02:04:56,863 --> 02:04:58,863
other things.

3935
02:04:58,998 --> 02:04:59,432
>> These cost to the city here

3936
02:04:59,432 --> 02:05:00,166
is

3937
02:05:00,166 --> 02:05:03,103
>> cfo we'll talk a little bit

3938
02:05:03,103 --> 02:05:04,470
more about that. We are not

3939
02:05:04,470 --> 02:05:06,906
paying for annually. And as a

3940
02:05:06,906 --> 02:05:07,573
result of that, it continues

3941
02:05:07,573 --> 02:05:08,241
to grow rather having us

3942
02:05:08,241 --> 02:05:11,241
address it in a meaningful

3943
02:05:17,283 --> 02:05:18,840
way. Joe mentioned this, this

3944
02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:20,320
liability is systemic both

3945
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:21,755
within our facilities

3946
02:05:21,755 --> 02:05:23,823
portfolio and within our our

3947
02:05:23,823 --> 02:05:24,758
budgeting over the last many

3948
02:05:24,758 --> 02:05:27,758
decades. With respect to the

3949
02:05:28,829 --> 02:05:31,829
buildings and the site itself.

3950
02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:32,799
We have structural issues,

3951
02:05:32,799 --> 02:05:34,167
including exterior conditions

3952
02:05:34,167 --> 02:05:36,567
that have deteriorated past

3953
02:05:36,903 --> 02:05:37,870
the point of repair that need

3954
02:05:37,870 --> 02:05:38,538
complete replacement

3955
02:05:38,538 --> 02:05:39,239
structural deficiencies of

3956
02:05:39,239 --> 02:05:41,875
started to crop up in some of

3957
02:05:41,875 --> 02:05:42,575
the buildings. We have ada

3958
02:05:42,575 --> 02:05:43,243
issues all over the place,

3959
02:05:43,243 --> 02:05:45,643
including the elevator out

3960
02:05:46,879 --> 02:05:47,781
here. The ramps essentially we

3961
02:05:47,781 --> 02:05:50,717
would need to rebuild the

3962
02:05:50,717 --> 02:05:52,519
building to make it 88

3963
02:05:52,519 --> 02:05:54,888
compliant. We also have as

3964
02:05:54,888 --> 02:05:55,555
best of sunlight issues

3965
02:05:55,555 --> 02:05:56,223
throughout a number of the

3966
02:05:56,223 --> 02:05:59,910
buildings. And I think the

3967
02:05:59,910 --> 02:06:00,600
biggest thing that I want to

3968
02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:00,761
fixing this requires everybody

3969
02:06:00,761 --> 02:06:03,761
working in these buildings to

3970
02:06:04,498 --> 02:06:06,299
be out of them. You know, we

3971
02:06:06,299 --> 02:06:06,967
cannot deal with lead and

3972
02:06:06,967 --> 02:06:09,367
asbestos issues with people

3973
02:06:10,604 --> 02:06:13,400
working around here. You've

3974
02:06:13,674 --> 02:06:15,642
all heard the anecdotes of us

3975
02:06:15,642 --> 02:06:16,844
buying hvac parts from the bay

3976
02:06:16,844 --> 02:06:19,244
because we cannot find

3977
02:06:20,848 --> 02:06:23,160
suppliers sell them anymore.

3978
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:23,651
That those are truthful

3979
02:06:23,651 --> 02:06:25,651
anecdotes are facilities.

3980
02:06:27,721 --> 02:06:28,756
Coordinator superintendent is

3981
02:06:28,756 --> 02:06:29,389
frequently shopping and

3982
02:06:29,389 --> 02:06:30,190
second-hand sites to find

3983
02:06:30,190 --> 02:06:33,190
pieces equipment for us to

3984
02:06:35,662 --> 02:06:36,930
keep the building running.

3985
02:06:36,930 --> 02:06:37,798
Some of the specific examples.

3986
02:06:37,798 --> 02:06:39,633
I know. I've got a couple

3987
02:06:39,633 --> 02:06:40,834
slides here just showing some

3988
02:06:40,834 --> 02:06:42,769
some pictures because I know a

3989
02:06:42,769 --> 02:06:43,437
lot of the public sees the

3990
02:06:43,437 --> 02:06:46,437
council chamber MAY be some

3991
02:06:46,873 --> 02:06:47,941
reception areas, but the 300

3992
02:06:47,941 --> 02:06:49,509
plus staff members who work in

3993
02:06:49,509 --> 02:06:52,509
these building see this every

3994
02:06:53,212 --> 02:06:53,847
day. We have hvac units with

3995
02:06:53,847 --> 02:06:56,847
Faye Linda Quirk. We have

3996
02:06:57,418 --> 02:06:58,719
water leaks stained carpet

3997
02:06:58,719 --> 02:06:59,553
replacing that carpet. It is a

3998
02:06:59,553 --> 02:07:00,120
challenge because it would

3999
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:02,520
expose who knows what

4000
02:07:04,580 --> 02:07:06,458
underneath them. Have paint

4001
02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:09,697
caused by leaks even in the

4002
02:07:09,697 --> 02:07:10,330
point of 2 point of crack

4003
02:07:10,330 --> 02:07:10,898
concrete walls that's not

4004
02:07:10,898 --> 02:07:12,366
supposed to happen as

4005
02:07:12,366 --> 02:07:13,330
especially not supposed to

4006
02:07:13,330 --> 02:07:15,903
have then. Where will those

4007
02:07:15,903 --> 02:07:18,303
concrete walls are important

4008
02:07:18,305 --> 02:07:20,705
structurally for Keeping the

4009
02:07:23,310 --> 02:07:25,279
building operate. Sealing

4010
02:07:25,279 --> 02:07:27,180
leaks are not only water

4011
02:07:27,180 --> 02:07:29,580
lines, but sometimes sewage

4012
02:07:30,518 --> 02:07:31,251
lines we've had. Those leaks

4013
02:07:31,251 --> 02:07:33,354
mostly contained by the

4014
02:07:33,354 --> 02:07:34,210
ceilings. And as you staying

4015
02:07:34,210 --> 02:07:34,755
there, we've also had some

4016
02:07:34,755 --> 02:07:35,422
sewage leaks not contained by

4017
02:07:35,422 --> 02:07:36,550
the ceilings and make their

4018
02:07:36,550 --> 02:07:39,655
way down to the desk and

4019
02:07:40,761 --> 02:07:42,296
ground level. You'll remember

4020
02:07:42,296 --> 02:07:43,300
a few years ago that we had an

4021
02:07:43,300 --> 02:07:43,697
infestation of fleas that send

4022
02:07:43,697 --> 02:07:44,398
everybody home for a short

4023
02:07:44,398 --> 02:07:47,568
period of time. While we got

4024
02:07:47,568 --> 02:07:51,168
that taken care of. These are

4025
02:07:51,405 --> 02:07:52,730
all costs to us in terms of

4026
02:07:52,730 --> 02:07:53,740
fixing city facilities but

4027
02:07:53,740 --> 02:07:54,408
also costs to us in terms of

4028
02:07:54,408 --> 02:07:57,408
the ability of staff to

4029
02:07:58,446 --> 02:07:59,714
deliver services for the

4030
02:07:59,714 --> 02:08:02,316
public. So the great part is

4031
02:08:02,316 --> 02:08:04,218
that now we know what it costs

4032
02:08:04,218 --> 02:08:07,818
to fix. And cfo Wagner will

4033
02:08:08,220 --> 02:08:08,556
tell us how to get there.

4034
02:08:08,556 --> 02:08:10,556
Thank you, Director

4035
02:08:11,910 --> 02:08:13,127
Hennessy's. So all Echo one of

4036
02:08:13,127 --> 02:08:14,261
the points that Dan made in

4037
02:08:14,261 --> 02:08:14,863
that myself and dinner are

4038
02:08:14,863 --> 02:08:16,631
willing to come back to

4039
02:08:16,631 --> 02:08:17,198
councils address this issue,

4040
02:08:17,198 --> 02:08:17,865
too.

4041
02:08:17,865 --> 02:08:21,465
>> To put a Band-Aid on to

4042
02:08:22,570 --> 02:08:23,604
this. Campus not to fix it,

4043
02:08:23,604 --> 02:08:24,205
but to put a Band-Aid on it so

4044
02:08:24,205 --> 02:08:26,605
that we can immediately

4045
02:08:27,842 --> 02:08:30,242
address. The problems here

4046
02:08:30,578 --> 02:08:31,212
that make this campus a place

4047
02:08:31,212 --> 02:08:31,913
that we the public cannot

4048
02:08:31,913 --> 02:08:34,749
reliably count on to be able

4049
02:08:34,749 --> 02:08:35,449
to conduct their services

4050
02:08:35,449 --> 02:08:38,449
here. That indeed is a

4051
02:08:39,387 --> 02:08:40,488
48 million dollar band did.

4052
02:08:40,488 --> 02:08:41,656
And again, we are willing to

4053
02:08:41,656 --> 02:08:45,256
return to council with dot to

4054
02:08:45,493 --> 02:08:46,194
be able to execute that plan.

4055
02:08:46,194 --> 02:08:48,594
Roughly what an understanding

4056
02:08:48,629 --> 02:08:49,264
of how that would really to

4057
02:08:49,264 --> 02:08:49,896
our budget would we would

4058
02:08:49,896 --> 02:08:51,896
anticipate the 6 million

4059
02:08:53,568 --> 02:08:54,235
dollar annual cost to fund

4060
02:08:54,235 --> 02:08:56,635
that 48 million dollars. We

4061
02:08:57,380 --> 02:08:58,339
would do so through debt. Now,

4062
02:08:58,339 --> 02:09:00,341
as Dan mentioned, that would

4063
02:09:00,341 --> 02:09:02,900
be fully burden costs of

4064
02:09:02,900 --> 02:09:03,100
finding a new place for our

4065
02:09:03,100 --> 02:09:04,646
employees to work until we

4066
02:09:04,646 --> 02:09:06,614
were able to fix all the

4067
02:09:06,614 --> 02:09:07,382
issues here. It would be

4068
02:09:07,382 --> 02:09:10,585
complex and it would be very

4069
02:09:10,585 --> 02:09:11,286
challenging to execute. But

4070
02:09:11,286 --> 02:09:14,522
again, we are at a place with

4071
02:09:14,522 --> 02:09:16,391
our current failure that we do

4072
02:09:16,391 --> 02:09:17,392
need to take action. And one

4073
02:09:17,392 --> 02:09:19,260
of the consistent themes that

4074
02:09:19,260 --> 02:09:21,162
will be throughout this

4075
02:09:21,162 --> 02:09:22,964
presentation is that this is a

4076
02:09:22,964 --> 02:09:24,131
issue that has developed over

4077
02:09:24,131 --> 02:09:27,731
decades and part of that issue

4078
02:09:27,902 --> 02:09:29,337
is in action. And we're going

4079
02:09:29,337 --> 02:09:30,370
to talk about that a little

4080
02:09:30,370 --> 02:09:33,370
bit more in the presentation.

4081
02:09:34,209 --> 02:09:36,110
Next slide. 6 million dollars

4082
02:09:36,110 --> 02:09:39,470
is a meaningful impact to our

4083
02:09:39,470 --> 02:09:40,480
budget. We're going to talk

4084
02:09:40,480 --> 02:09:40,715
about leader our exchange

4085
02:09:40,715 --> 02:09:41,415
concept and how that equals

4086
02:09:41,415 --> 02:09:44,415
less than 1 million dollars a

4087
02:09:45,190 --> 02:09:47,419
year. The way I'm

4088
02:09:48,189 --> 02:09:50,570
characterizing for my Ron

4089
02:09:50,570 --> 02:09:50,759
finances that there is a

4090
02:09:50,759 --> 02:09:52,327
5 million dollar Delta there

4091
02:09:52,327 --> 02:09:54,129
between these solutions and

4092
02:09:54,129 --> 02:09:56,529
again, the 6 million dollars

4093
02:09:57,299 --> 02:09:58,667
is not a solution. It is a

4094
02:09:58,667 --> 02:10:00,667
Band-Aid. 5 million Dollar

4095
02:10:01,269 --> 02:10:01,969
Delta really is a meaningful

4096
02:10:01,969 --> 02:10:04,372
impact to the service that we

4097
02:10:04,372 --> 02:10:05,740
can provide the community. Our

4098
02:10:05,740 --> 02:10:07,843
general fund, which would have

4099
02:10:07,843 --> 02:10:09,811
to bear the burden of that

4100
02:10:09,811 --> 02:10:10,846
expense is responsible for

4101
02:10:10,846 --> 02:10:13,246
providing the services that

4102
02:10:13,448 --> 02:10:15,450
the community expects and asks

4103
02:10:15,450 --> 02:10:16,418
for first that being our

4104
02:10:16,418 --> 02:10:18,286
police fire emergency

4105
02:10:18,286 --> 02:10:20,222
response, our streets and

4106
02:10:20,222 --> 02:10:21,323
infrastructure keeping our

4107
02:10:21,323 --> 02:10:23,124
parks clean and well

4108
02:10:23,124 --> 02:10:23,858
maintained. And as long as

4109
02:10:23,858 --> 02:10:25,327
well as the community services

4110
02:10:25,327 --> 02:10:27,327
through our recreation

4111
02:10:27,329 --> 02:10:29,697
programs. At the end of the

4112
02:10:29,697 --> 02:10:30,332
day, we have one high in Santa

4113
02:10:30,332 --> 02:10:32,801
Rosa and how we choose to

4114
02:10:32,801 --> 02:10:34,969
divvy it out is the way to

4115
02:10:34,969 --> 02:10:35,670
provide the most service to

4116
02:10:35,670 --> 02:10:38,700
the community. Ultimately the

4117
02:10:38,674 --> 02:10:39,541
end of the day, this inaction

4118
02:10:39,541 --> 02:10:42,310
on see by the city over the

4119
02:10:42,310 --> 02:10:43,478
decades to create this problem

4120
02:10:43,478 --> 02:10:45,814
has left us where we have to

4121
02:10:45,814 --> 02:10:47,849
make this start decision on

4122
02:10:47,849 --> 02:10:49,500
how we are going to invest

4123
02:10:49,500 --> 02:10:52,650
that pie best to maintain our

4124
02:10:55,590 --> 02:10:56,257
city services. The second

4125
02:10:56,257 --> 02:10:59,857
thing that I would I would

4126
02:11:00,280 --> 02:11:01,630
impress is that

4127
02:11:01,630 --> 02:11:03,832
>> these couple of decades of

4128
02:11:03,832 --> 02:11:05,267
the city discussing this and

4129
02:11:05,267 --> 02:11:06,934
this has been discussed at

4130
02:11:06,934 --> 02:11:09,710
this table for a very long

4131
02:11:09,710 --> 02:11:11,390
time and very long

4132
02:11:11,390 --> 02:11:13,439
presentations. I would really

4133
02:11:13,442 --> 02:11:16,778
describe that as the city was

4134
02:11:16,778 --> 02:11:18,880
stuck in spiral of a rebuild

4135
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:21,283
concept and that it's very

4136
02:11:21,283 --> 02:11:21,950
rare to be able to know you

4137
02:11:21,950 --> 02:11:23,752
haven't identified facility

4138
02:11:23,752 --> 02:11:25,554
that you're able to move into.

4139
02:11:25,554 --> 02:11:26,188
That will meet your needs. We

4140
02:11:26,188 --> 02:11:28,588
do have that opportunity

4141
02:11:30,326 --> 02:11:31,260
today. But when you don't have

4142
02:11:31,260 --> 02:11:34,626
that, you have to build from

4143
02:11:34,896 --> 02:11:36,464
the ground up. The last time

4144
02:11:36,464 --> 02:11:39,501
the city took a very serious

4145
02:11:39,501 --> 02:11:40,535
approach at looking at this

4146
02:11:40,535 --> 02:11:41,102
issue. The twenty-twenty

4147
02:11:41,102 --> 02:11:43,380
initial estimate was

4148
02:11:43,380 --> 02:11:45,438
64 million dollars. That is

4149
02:11:48,310 --> 02:11:49,178
the large number but what's

4150
02:11:49,178 --> 02:11:51,247
even larger is taking that

4151
02:11:51,247 --> 02:11:51,947
number from just 6 years ago.

4152
02:11:51,947 --> 02:11:54,947
And today we're looking at

4153
02:11:55,150 --> 02:11:57,519
around 82 million dollars. We

4154
02:11:57,519 --> 02:11:58,754
have this existing liability

4155
02:11:58,754 --> 02:12:02,354
on our books for this campus

4156
02:12:02,992 --> 02:12:03,726
and it grows each year. Unlike

4157
02:12:03,726 --> 02:12:04,459
an actuary report from Calpers

4158
02:12:04,459 --> 02:12:05,794
where they'll tell us exactly

4159
02:12:05,794 --> 02:12:09,697
how much it is each year. We

4160
02:12:09,697 --> 02:12:10,498
have to look at this and

4161
02:12:10,498 --> 02:12:12,498
ultimately that 30% increase

4162
02:12:13,636 --> 02:12:16,439
just makes the rebuild concept

4163
02:12:16,439 --> 02:12:17,339
more unfeasible than it was in

4164
02:12:17,339 --> 02:12:19,141
2020 more unfeasible than it

4165
02:12:19,141 --> 02:12:22,780
was prior to the Great

4166
02:12:22,780 --> 02:12:23,212
Recession. And we really need

4167
02:12:23,212 --> 02:12:23,913
to exit that strategy. We need

4168
02:12:23,913 --> 02:12:24,613
to come up with something

4169
02:12:24,613 --> 02:12:27,613
different that we're here to

4170
02:12:32,321 --> 02:12:33,220
propose today.

4171
02:12:33,220 --> 02:12:33,623
>> ok, so we've had a lot of

4172
02:12:33,623 --> 02:12:35,623
questions about what's

4173
02:12:38,628 --> 02:12:39,695
happened over the years

4174
02:12:39,695 --> 02:12:40,396
personally, myself and our

4175
02:12:40,396 --> 02:12:42,664
city manager of been working

4176
02:12:42,664 --> 02:12:43,366
on these concepts for over 10

4177
02:12:43,366 --> 02:12:44,967
years. But I'm gonna go back

4178
02:12:44,967 --> 02:12:45,668
in history a little bit for

4179
02:12:45,668 --> 02:12:47,703
the public, even though this

4180
02:12:47,703 --> 02:12:48,371
has been to.

4181
02:12:48,371 --> 02:12:51,240
>> In public means so many

4182
02:12:51,240 --> 02:12:51,874
times over the years. Back in

4183
02:12:51,874 --> 02:12:52,974
the 2 thousands, they

4184
02:12:52,974 --> 02:12:55,974
attempted a man, a master

4185
02:12:57,146 --> 02:12:58,280
planning process for city hall

4186
02:12:58,280 --> 02:12:59,515
and and recognize that the

4187
02:12:59,515 --> 02:13:03,115
times I it wasn't a long-term

4188
02:13:03,619 --> 02:13:04,787
solution that is affordable in

4189
02:13:04,787 --> 02:13:06,689
2000 Ten's they evaluated

4190
02:13:06,689 --> 02:13:08,925
selling or rebuilding and even

4191
02:13:08,925 --> 02:13:09,559
bought more property a little

4192
02:13:09,559 --> 02:13:12,610
earlier than not the West

4193
02:13:12,610 --> 02:13:14,461
America Bank building too

4194
02:13:15,865 --> 02:13:16,566
extend and expand on a rebuild

4195
02:13:16,566 --> 02:13:17,400
of the property. But the high

4196
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:20,400
costs and the limited market

4197
02:13:22,137 --> 02:13:24,537
interest made that not

4198
02:13:24,874 --> 02:13:26,242
feasible. And the 2000

4199
02:13:26,242 --> 02:13:28,770
twenty's. So here is where I

4200
02:13:28,770 --> 02:13:30,779
came earlier in the 2020 is

4201
02:13:30,779 --> 02:13:31,514
probably 2018 we started we

4202
02:13:31,514 --> 02:13:34,383
looked at, we studied for over

4203
02:13:34,383 --> 02:13:36,486
an entire year. We looked at

4204
02:13:36,486 --> 02:13:37,687
the public private partnership

4205
02:13:37,687 --> 02:13:41,287
side. So we went through a

4206
02:13:41,491 --> 02:13:44,260
years long study and some some

4207
02:13:44,260 --> 02:13:44,928
MAY say we over analyzed and

4208
02:13:44,928 --> 02:13:47,330
my opinion. We were at the

4209
02:13:47,330 --> 02:13:49,465
point of over analyzing all of

4210
02:13:49,465 --> 02:13:51,400
this. We brought in every

4211
02:13:51,400 --> 02:13:54,400
expert you could think We

4212
02:13:55,572 --> 02:13:56,272
brought in, you know, finance

4213
02:13:56,272 --> 02:13:59,375
experts. We we put in private

4214
02:13:59,375 --> 02:14:00,643
equity. We brought and on

4215
02:14:00,643 --> 02:14:02,545
brokers from in the area from

4216
02:14:02,545 --> 02:14:03,145
outside the area. We did

4217
02:14:03,145 --> 02:14:03,880
market surveys. We did

4218
02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:06,880
studies. We did test surveys

4219
02:14:08,718 --> 02:14:10,754
with the community. We started

4220
02:14:10,754 --> 02:14:12,880
a master planning process. We

4221
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:12,822
looked at all of our property,

4222
02:14:12,822 --> 02:14:16,580
every piece of property we own

4223
02:14:16,580 --> 02:14:17,260
in the downtown. We looked at

4224
02:14:17,260 --> 02:14:18,280
selling those at the highest

4225
02:14:18,280 --> 02:14:20,630
possible price that we could

4226
02:14:20,630 --> 02:14:22,765
come up with for appraised

4227
02:14:22,765 --> 02:14:23,733
value and we still couldn't

4228
02:14:23,733 --> 02:14:26,436
get to a number that the city

4229
02:14:26,436 --> 02:14:27,437
could afford on a rebuilt

4230
02:14:27,437 --> 02:14:28,104
that's selling every single

4231
02:14:28,104 --> 02:14:30,390
piece of land we own in the

4232
02:14:30,390 --> 02:14:32,390
downtown. Including parking

4233
02:14:35,645 --> 02:14:36,479
garages. So Twenty-twenty we

4234
02:14:36,479 --> 02:14:39,582
realize that we're just not in

4235
02:14:39,582 --> 02:14:43,319
a place where and at that time

4236
02:14:43,319 --> 02:14:45,322
where rebuild as possible. And

4237
02:14:45,322 --> 02:14:46,289
as cfo Wagner just went over

4238
02:14:46,289 --> 02:14:46,923
and the slide previous to

4239
02:14:46,923 --> 02:14:49,323
this, those numbers even

4240
02:14:50,927 --> 02:14:52,940
gotten larger. Now. In 2025,

4241
02:14:52,940 --> 02:14:53,864
we decided to test the market

4242
02:14:53,864 --> 02:14:54,498
a little bit. Let's see what

4243
02:14:54,498 --> 02:14:55,465
our properties worth. And

4244
02:14:55,465 --> 02:14:56,399
let's see if we sell some of

4245
02:14:56,399 --> 02:14:58,799
the pieces individually rather

4246
02:15:00,503 --> 02:15:02,372
than a whole. Where we would

4247
02:15:02,372 --> 02:15:04,374
come out, too. So we decided

4248
02:15:04,374 --> 02:15:05,800
to put up for sale 6.55, for

4249
02:15:05,800 --> 02:15:05,709
street, which is the West

4250
02:15:05,709 --> 02:15:08,709
America Bank building to see

4251
02:15:09,646 --> 02:15:10,514
what would happen. We received

4252
02:15:10,514 --> 02:15:12,115
after a pretty significant

4253
02:15:12,115 --> 02:15:15,115
amount of time. We received 2

4254
02:15:15,418 --> 02:15:18,488
offers both of the officers or

4255
02:15:18,488 --> 02:15:19,422
so significantly below the

4256
02:15:19,422 --> 02:15:21,858
appraised values that the city

4257
02:15:21,858 --> 02:15:24,940
declined to move forward with

4258
02:15:24,940 --> 02:15:24,995
those. And at that time with

4259
02:15:24,995 --> 02:15:25,695
that told me, in my

4260
02:15:25,695 --> 02:15:28,950
professional opinion, is that

4261
02:15:30,200 --> 02:15:32,236
this? City Hall campus is

4262
02:15:32,236 --> 02:15:32,869
worth more as a whole than it

4263
02:15:32,869 --> 02:15:34,370
is peace million that are

4264
02:15:34,370 --> 02:15:36,437
separating that. Next slide.

4265
02:15:38,374 --> 02:15:41,111
Please. So this slide just

4266
02:15:41,111 --> 02:15:42,179
shows you that we've we've

4267
02:15:42,179 --> 02:15:44,579
tested analyzed, brought in

4268
02:15:48,752 --> 02:15:49,453
every expert. To the Nth

4269
02:15:49,453 --> 02:15:50,153
Degree on rebuilding what we

4270
02:15:50,153 --> 02:15:50,821
could do to rehabilitate this

4271
02:15:50,821 --> 02:15:54,158
campus and what needs to be

4272
02:15:54,158 --> 02:15:54,758
done. We had significant

4273
02:15:54,758 --> 02:15:57,158
amount of studies done

4274
02:15:57,861 --> 02:15:58,562
facilities, study's done

4275
02:15:58,562 --> 02:15:59,229
100 million dollar liability

4276
02:15:59,229 --> 02:16:02,229
at 6 million dollars a year

4277
02:16:03,567 --> 02:16:05,967
for 30 years. I'm thinking

4278
02:16:05,969 --> 02:16:06,670
it's just it doesn't work for

4279
02:16:06,670 --> 02:16:07,404
the city. We don't. We don't

4280
02:16:07,404 --> 02:16:10,808
have the funds as our cfo tell

4281
02:16:10,808 --> 02:16:13,444
you. Building new on the

4282
02:16:13,444 --> 02:16:16,346
existing site. Like I said, a

4283
02:16:16,346 --> 02:16:17,480
minimum of 82 Million. It's

4284
02:16:17,480 --> 02:16:19,880
probably closer to 100 million

4285
02:16:20,350 --> 02:16:21,685
at this time. And estimating

4286
02:16:21,685 --> 02:16:22,286
5 million dollars a year for

4287
02:16:22,286 --> 02:16:22,953
30 years. Again, not a

4288
02:16:22,953 --> 02:16:25,353
sustainable option for the

4289
02:16:27,257 --> 02:16:29,793
city. Next slide. Please. So

4290
02:16:29,793 --> 02:16:30,528
after years and years of

4291
02:16:30,528 --> 02:16:32,996
studies of talking to everyone

4292
02:16:32,996 --> 02:16:36,596
we can talking to every expert

4293
02:16:39,103 --> 02:16:39,804
we came up with a or an

4294
02:16:39,804 --> 02:16:41,605
opportunity for an exchange

4295
02:16:41,605 --> 02:16:43,607
which we want to talk to you

4296
02:16:43,607 --> 02:16:45,676
about tonight. And this

4297
02:16:45,676 --> 02:16:46,377
opportunity is the first

4298
02:16:46,377 --> 02:16:48,777
opportunity I-10 to 12 years

4299
02:16:48,779 --> 02:16:51,582
of working on this that I can

4300
02:16:51,582 --> 02:16:53,784
say is a sustainable

4301
02:16:53,784 --> 02:16:55,853
opportunity and is in my

4302
02:16:55,853 --> 02:16:56,720
professional opinion, a great

4303
02:16:56,720 --> 02:16:59,556
opportunity for the city to

4304
02:16:59,556 --> 02:17:01,359
get out of 100 million dollar

4305
02:17:01,359 --> 02:17:02,393
liability. And let's just say

4306
02:17:02,393 --> 02:17:03,194
that one more time,

4307
02:17:03,194 --> 02:17:04,729
100 million dollar taxpayer

4308
02:17:04,729 --> 02:17:07,398
liability on this campus. Next

4309
02:17:07,398 --> 02:17:10,398
slide. Please. So what's an

4310
02:17:12,136 --> 02:17:13,437
exchange? I've been asked many

4311
02:17:13,437 --> 02:17:14,137
times what a property

4312
02:17:14,137 --> 02:17:15,406
exchanges. It's exactly what

4313
02:17:15,406 --> 02:17:17,410
it sounds like. So let's think

4314
02:17:17,410 --> 02:17:17,708
of the definition exchange.

4315
02:17:17,708 --> 02:17:19,209
It's you give something you

4316
02:17:19,209 --> 02:17:21,211
get something usually of equal

4317
02:17:21,211 --> 02:17:23,380
value or or becomes of equal

4318
02:17:23,380 --> 02:17:25,116
value. And that's exactly what

4319
02:17:25,116 --> 02:17:26,817
a property changes. So what

4320
02:17:26,817 --> 02:17:29,530
staff is proposing tonight is

4321
02:17:29,530 --> 02:17:30,288
that the city of Santa Rosa

4322
02:17:30,288 --> 02:17:31,222
Exchange, what we call the

4323
02:17:31,222 --> 02:17:32,523
city Hall campus. Now, I'd be

4324
02:17:32,523 --> 02:17:33,424
very specific about what those

4325
02:17:33,424 --> 02:17:35,824
properties are. That is 100

4326
02:17:36,860 --> 02:17:37,460
Santa Rosa Avenue, which is

4327
02:17:37,460 --> 02:17:40,460
the campus that this is

4328
02:17:42,266 --> 02:17:44,335
sitting on today.-1.6 one

4329
02:17:44,335 --> 02:17:46,570
acres. So director Hennessy is

4330
02:17:46,570 --> 02:17:48,272
going to go into this slides

4331
02:17:48,272 --> 02:17:51,872
coming up. But the city is

4332
02:17:52,276 --> 02:17:54,676
keeping keeping full. 1.6, one

4333
02:17:54,712 --> 02:17:57,480
acres of all of the creek

4334
02:17:57,480 --> 02:17:57,915
property. So all of the

4335
02:17:57,915 --> 02:17:59,450
property of Santa Rosa Creek

4336
02:17:59,450 --> 02:18:00,151
and Matanzas Creek that is

4337
02:18:00,151 --> 02:18:02,553
covert under here will remain

4338
02:18:02,553 --> 02:18:04,923
in the government's hands.

4339
02:18:04,923 --> 02:18:05,623
That will provide flexibility

4340
02:18:05,623 --> 02:18:06,390
in the future. So what what

4341
02:18:06,390 --> 02:18:09,390
can be done with those

4342
02:18:10,395 --> 02:18:11,620
properties? So 100 Rose Avenue

4343
02:18:11,620 --> 02:18:14,620
minus a 1.6 acres which we

4344
02:18:14,399 --> 02:18:17,135
will be keeping 90 Santa Rosa

4345
02:18:17,135 --> 02:18:17,902
Avenue 6.55. For street and

4346
02:18:17,902 --> 02:18:18,636
6.31, 0st street that are all

4347
02:18:18,636 --> 02:18:19,704
the properties here and across

4348
02:18:19,704 --> 02:18:23,304
the street on First Street and

4349
02:18:23,942 --> 02:18:25,776
we would exchange all of those

4350
02:18:25,776 --> 02:18:26,444
properties for 5 23rd Street,

4351
02:18:26,444 --> 02:18:29,980
which is owned by museum on

4352
02:18:29,980 --> 02:18:30,615
the Square llc. That is an

4353
02:18:30,615 --> 02:18:32,615
existing downtown office

4354
02:18:32,917 --> 02:18:33,985
building that meets all of the

4355
02:18:33,985 --> 02:18:37,585
city's needs. And I'll go into

4356
02:18:39,157 --> 02:18:40,158
the next couple of slides. How

4357
02:18:40,158 --> 02:18:42,590
we got to the point of

4358
02:18:42,590 --> 02:18:43,328
recommending this property at

4359
02:18:43,328 --> 02:18:45,290
5 23rd Street. So where we

4360
02:18:45,290 --> 02:18:46,865
came from is the city have a

4361
02:18:46,865 --> 02:18:48,990
need? Moss has a need and

4362
02:18:48,990 --> 02:18:51,136
desire and the need to line.

4363
02:18:51,136 --> 02:18:52,604
That's the hardest part. A

4364
02:18:52,604 --> 02:18:53,305
finding in exchange property

4365
02:18:53,305 --> 02:18:56,905
that works and needs have to

4366
02:18:57,909 --> 02:18:59,577
align for both. So how this

4367
02:18:59,577 --> 02:19:00,879
fits in the state law. So the

4368
02:19:00,879 --> 02:19:03,581
Surplus Lands Act, which I

4369
02:19:03,581 --> 02:19:04,616
know you've all heard me talk

4370
02:19:04,616 --> 02:19:05,717
about it. Not probably at this

4371
02:19:05,717 --> 02:19:07,618
point. I'm a you have to

4372
02:19:07,618 --> 02:19:08,920
designate this is this is how

4373
02:19:08,920 --> 02:19:11,923
the city governs or how the

4374
02:19:11,923 --> 02:19:14,323
state governs, how governments

4375
02:19:14,359 --> 02:19:15,590
sell property and it has to be

4376
02:19:15,590 --> 02:19:17,590
designated either non-exempt

4377
02:19:17,129 --> 02:19:19,497
surplus land or exempt surplus

4378
02:19:19,497 --> 02:19:22,901
land. There is an exception in

4379
02:19:22,901 --> 02:19:24,603
the state law that in the

4380
02:19:24,603 --> 02:19:25,470
surplus lands out that allows

4381
02:19:25,470 --> 02:19:27,870
and property exchange for

4382
02:19:29,507 --> 02:19:31,907
government use. For agents.

4383
02:19:32,410 --> 02:19:34,346
What they call agency use

4384
02:19:34,346 --> 02:19:35,347
obesity use. So we are asking

4385
02:19:35,347 --> 02:19:37,747
tonight that the council

4386
02:19:38,483 --> 02:19:39,618
declare this property exempt

4387
02:19:39,618 --> 02:19:41,452
surplus land and that we are

4388
02:19:41,452 --> 02:19:44,256
and that allows us to be able

4389
02:19:44,256 --> 02:19:44,956
to exchange that property for

4390
02:19:44,956 --> 02:19:47,956
agency the existing city hall

4391
02:19:49,328 --> 02:19:50,429
property would be transferred

4392
02:19:50,429 --> 02:19:51,196
2 Mott's llc and then 5 23rd

4393
02:19:51,196 --> 02:19:54,196
Street would be transferred to

4394
02:19:56,969 --> 02:19:57,836
the city for agency use. So it

4395
02:19:57,836 --> 02:19:59,571
all you ation. Here's another

4396
02:19:59,571 --> 02:20:00,272
question. We've got a lot of

4397
02:20:00,272 --> 02:20:02,707
that we wanted to go over is

4398
02:20:02,707 --> 02:20:03,741
how did we get to the

4399
02:20:03,741 --> 02:20:05,644
recommendation of 5 23rd

4400
02:20:05,644 --> 02:20:06,611
Street? There's a lot of

4401
02:20:06,611 --> 02:20:07,346
properties in the downtown

4402
02:20:07,346 --> 02:20:08,130
have. Why did this come out at

4403
02:20:08,130 --> 02:20:10,781
the top of the less? I will

4404
02:20:10,781 --> 02:20:11,483
tell you, this came out far

4405
02:20:11,483 --> 02:20:12,150
beyond any other property. It

4406
02:20:12,150 --> 02:20:15,150
was a no-brainer really to

4407
02:20:16,455 --> 02:20:17,556
bring this one to you we

4408
02:20:17,556 --> 02:20:19,291
looked at all the different

4409
02:20:19,291 --> 02:20:21,691
properties and the downtown.

4410
02:20:24,563 --> 02:20:26,532
So There are we look to bronco

4411
02:20:26,532 --> 02:20:27,666
through first we looked at him

4412
02:20:27,666 --> 02:20:28,434
for size and functionality

4413
02:20:28,434 --> 02:20:29,768
tenant, relocation because

4414
02:20:29,768 --> 02:20:31,690
obviously we don't want to re.

4415
02:20:31,690 --> 02:20:34,730
We don't want to be display

4416
02:20:34,730 --> 02:20:35,340
scene. Commercial tenants more

4417
02:20:35,340 --> 02:20:37,509
than we need to. We want to be

4418
02:20:37,509 --> 02:20:38,177
very careful about that. So a

4419
02:20:38,177 --> 02:20:40,577
building that has 15 people

4420
02:20:42,214 --> 02:20:42,881
and it is not not the best for

4421
02:20:42,881 --> 02:20:45,881
us. Our businesses are very

4422
02:20:46,151 --> 02:20:47,252
important to us. We looked at

4423
02:20:47,252 --> 02:20:49,252
tenant improvement costs.

4424
02:20:49,888 --> 02:20:50,589
Would what condition is the

4425
02:20:50,589 --> 02:20:51,289
building? You know, how many?

4426
02:20:51,289 --> 02:20:54,693
How much money do we need to

4427
02:20:54,693 --> 02:20:55,327
put in nt eyes with that said

4428
02:20:55,327 --> 02:20:56,280
exchange feasibility, not

4429
02:20:56,280 --> 02:20:56,829
everybody's going to want to

4430
02:20:56,829 --> 02:21:00,429
exchange a property or how or

4431
02:21:00,799 --> 02:21:02,000
once a city property and then

4432
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:02,734
long term city suitability. So

4433
02:21:02,734 --> 02:21:04,669
do we have room for growth and

4434
02:21:04,669 --> 02:21:07,606
what does it look like for the

4435
02:21:07,606 --> 02:21:08,840
future? When we looked at it

4436
02:21:08,840 --> 02:21:10,643
all the properties in the

4437
02:21:10,643 --> 02:21:12,645
downtown, it was important. We

4438
02:21:12,645 --> 02:21:13,812
knew to counsel and we knew

4439
02:21:13,812 --> 02:21:14,446
for staff and and the business

4440
02:21:14,446 --> 02:21:16,446
community. It's those 300

4441
02:21:17,416 --> 02:21:18,150
employees that we have remain

4442
02:21:18,150 --> 02:21:18,851
in the downtown. So we did not

4443
02:21:18,851 --> 02:21:21,851
look outside of the downtown

4444
02:21:22,555 --> 02:21:23,255
area. When we got to size and

4445
02:21:23,255 --> 02:21:25,224
functionality, which was one

4446
02:21:25,224 --> 02:21:26,959
of them that cut the majority

4447
02:21:26,959 --> 02:21:29,161
of the properties out in the

4448
02:21:29,161 --> 02:21:30,729
downtown. They're are not. We

4449
02:21:30,729 --> 02:21:31,430
would have to buy 2 properties

4450
02:21:31,430 --> 02:21:35,300
and most instances to be able

4451
02:21:35,901 --> 02:21:37,970
to. Have enough space to

4452
02:21:37,970 --> 02:21:38,771
situate all of our employees

4453
02:21:38,771 --> 02:21:39,471
that in the downtown now, let

4454
02:21:39,471 --> 02:21:42,471
alone. You know, we wouldn't

4455
02:21:42,874 --> 02:21:45,770
be able to put them together

4456
02:21:45,770 --> 02:21:45,744
so we can, you know, have a

4457
02:21:45,744 --> 02:21:48,214
one-stop shop or any of the

4458
02:21:48,214 --> 02:21:49,548
issues any of that items that

4459
02:21:49,548 --> 02:21:50,249
we want to bring forward for

4460
02:21:50,249 --> 02:21:53,653
the community to make this an

4461
02:21:53,653 --> 02:21:55,653
easier serviceable area.

4462
02:21:57,690 --> 02:21:58,758
Exchange feasibility we had a

4463
02:21:58,758 --> 02:22:00,258
partner, a development partner

4464
02:22:00,258 --> 02:22:01,594
Hugh Futrell and Montel see

4465
02:22:01,594 --> 02:22:03,994
that was interested in

4466
02:22:03,996 --> 02:22:06,650
exchange that wanted to do

4467
02:22:06,650 --> 02:22:06,799
that. And then we had to look

4468
02:22:06,799 --> 02:22:09,799
at costs and disruption. So

4469
02:22:09,802 --> 02:22:12,802
how could we move people

4470
02:22:13,506 --> 02:22:14,206
without disrupting service?

4471
02:22:14,206 --> 02:22:14,940
And that's something that we

4472
02:22:14,940 --> 02:22:15,575
negotiate within the contract,

4473
02:22:15,575 --> 02:22:19,175
which I will talk about a

4474
02:22:20,279 --> 02:22:22,115
minute. So here's the here's

4475
02:22:22,115 --> 02:22:23,716
the crux of the agreement. How

4476
02:22:23,716 --> 02:22:26,716
did we establish fair value?

4477
02:22:27,587 --> 02:22:28,521
So we have a very specific

4478
02:22:28,521 --> 02:22:29,789
business protocol that we do

4479
02:22:29,789 --> 02:22:30,489
in the city with every real

4480
02:22:30,489 --> 02:22:32,889
property transaction that we

4481
02:22:33,726 --> 02:22:35,595
do. And it's based on

4482
02:22:35,595 --> 02:22:36,796
appraisal on outside

4483
02:22:36,796 --> 02:22:38,631
appraisals by qualified

4484
02:22:38,631 --> 02:22:39,297
appraisals. And we stuck to

4485
02:22:39,297 --> 02:22:40,733
that process of which we do

4486
02:22:40,733 --> 02:22:42,702
with every acquisition that we

4487
02:22:42,702 --> 02:22:43,436
do here in the city. And we

4488
02:22:43,436 --> 02:22:44,137
did it again with this one.

4489
02:22:44,137 --> 02:22:47,540
And sometimes we did it with

4490
02:22:47,540 --> 02:22:48,608
multiple appraisals, which is

4491
02:22:48,608 --> 02:22:51,343
very common. So it's very

4492
02:22:51,343 --> 02:22:52,679
common even in right away

4493
02:22:52,679 --> 02:22:55,448
transactions by one Palm Beach

4494
02:22:55,448 --> 02:22:56,181
Party get their own appraisal.

4495
02:22:56,181 --> 02:22:56,883
And then, you know, to go, she

4496
02:22:56,883 --> 02:22:57,583
ate between the 2. And that's

4497
02:22:57,583 --> 02:23:00,583
exactly the same process that

4498
02:23:00,787 --> 02:23:01,988
we followed here. So let's

4499
02:23:01,988 --> 02:23:03,656
start with the Fy 23 Street.

4500
02:23:03,656 --> 02:23:04,657
The appraised value range

4501
02:23:04,657 --> 02:23:06,292
between appraisals was 12.4

4502
02:23:06,292 --> 02:23:08,292
million to 18.7 million.

4503
02:23:10,290 --> 02:23:12,365
Again, that might seem like

4504
02:23:12,365 --> 02:23:15,268
very big Delta to the

4505
02:23:15,268 --> 02:23:16,336
community. That is not it is

4506
02:23:16,336 --> 02:23:18,871
typical for us to see an

4507
02:23:18,871 --> 02:23:19,439
appraisal that there is a very

4508
02:23:19,439 --> 02:23:20,400
big delta between one

4509
02:23:20,400 --> 02:23:22,440
appraisal and the other

4510
02:23:23,442 --> 02:23:24,511
appraisal. It is and my job

4511
02:23:24,511 --> 02:23:28,148
and my staff's job in the city

4512
02:23:28,148 --> 02:23:29,182
manager's job to know and

4513
02:23:29,182 --> 02:23:31,217
understand what the value is

4514
02:23:31,217 --> 02:23:31,851
and to negotiate appropriately

4515
02:23:31,851 --> 02:23:32,919
for the city and for the

4516
02:23:32,919 --> 02:23:34,754
taxpayers and for the council.

4517
02:23:34,754 --> 02:23:38,354
And that's what we did here.

4518
02:23:38,991 --> 02:23:39,826
So we looked at very similar

4519
02:23:39,826 --> 02:23:41,628
properties. We looked like

4520
02:23:41,628 --> 02:23:45,228
what it was going on downtown.

4521
02:23:45,632 --> 02:23:46,699
And we came to a fair value

4522
02:23:46,699 --> 02:23:48,935
that was agreed upon by both

4523
02:23:48,935 --> 02:23:49,836
properties at 15.7 million.

4524
02:23:49,836 --> 02:23:50,503
And I will tell council and

4525
02:23:50,503 --> 02:23:53,503
the community that I think

4526
02:23:53,640 --> 02:23:55,775
this is a very, very

4527
02:23:55,775 --> 02:23:57,430
appropriate value. The

4528
02:23:57,430 --> 02:23:58,345
exchange has to be beneficial

4529
02:23:58,345 --> 02:23:59,279
for both parties. And this

4530
02:23:59,279 --> 02:24:01,130
very beneficial to the city

4531
02:24:01,130 --> 02:24:04,613
and it works for our exchange

4532
02:24:05,180 --> 02:24:06,253
partner. The existing city

4533
02:24:06,253 --> 02:24:08,880
Hall campus. Again, I'll go

4534
02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:10,457
back to my comments before

4535
02:24:10,457 --> 02:24:11,910
that. I truly believe that the

4536
02:24:11,910 --> 02:24:13,226
campus is worth more as a

4537
02:24:13,226 --> 02:24:13,894
whole that it is separately

4538
02:24:13,894 --> 02:24:16,894
the appraised value for the

4539
02:24:17,798 --> 02:24:18,432
city Hall campus has a

4540
02:24:18,432 --> 02:24:20,901
combined to campus was a

4541
02:24:20,901 --> 02:24:23,102
little over 13 million dollars

4542
02:24:23,102 --> 02:24:24,171
when we negotiated this value.

4543
02:24:24,171 --> 02:24:25,772
Again, these negotiate

4544
02:24:25,772 --> 02:24:27,641
somewhere very detailed and

4545
02:24:27,641 --> 02:24:28,375
and extensive when we

4546
02:24:28,375 --> 02:24:31,375
negotiated this a value of

4547
02:24:31,979 --> 02:24:32,479
11.1 million. We had to take

4548
02:24:32,479 --> 02:24:34,479
other things into

4549
02:24:35,882 --> 02:24:37,250
consideration that were not in

4550
02:24:37,250 --> 02:24:38,752
the appraised So the appraised

4551
02:24:38,752 --> 02:24:39,419
value is going to be exactly

4552
02:24:39,419 --> 02:24:41,888
what the property is worse

4553
02:24:41,888 --> 02:24:43,724
could be in its best

4554
02:24:43,724 --> 02:24:47,324
condition. This is not in its

4555
02:24:47,560 --> 02:24:49,629
best condition during during

4556
02:24:49,629 --> 02:24:50,364
the negotiations. We had

4557
02:24:50,364 --> 02:24:50,965
environmental studies done,

4558
02:24:50,965 --> 02:24:53,965
which we had planned in

4559
02:24:54,301 --> 02:24:55,569
advance to be doing those

4560
02:24:55,569 --> 02:24:56,503
environmental studies just for

4561
02:24:56,503 --> 02:24:57,670
lead and asbestos abatement,

4562
02:24:57,670 --> 02:24:59,406
not even all the other payment

4563
02:24:59,406 --> 02:25:01,642
that needs to be done for

4564
02:25:01,642 --> 02:25:02,376
anybody to do anything with

4565
02:25:02,376 --> 02:25:03,430
this campus came back at 4 and

4566
02:25:03,430 --> 02:25:06,430
a half million dollars. Our

4567
02:25:06,747 --> 02:25:07,948
ada came back at U.S.

4568
02:25:07,948 --> 02:25:09,183
Astronomical number. Those are

4569
02:25:09,183 --> 02:25:10,951
the things that we had to take

4570
02:25:10,951 --> 02:25:13,351
into account for. We're

4571
02:25:13,887 --> 02:25:15,155
keeping 1.6 acres of land. We

4572
02:25:15,155 --> 02:25:16,457
are not transferring that

4573
02:25:16,457 --> 02:25:18,224
land. So that had to come into

4574
02:25:18,224 --> 02:25:21,824
play is also as a reduced

4575
02:25:22,296 --> 02:25:25,320
value. So the 11.1 by 3 value

4576
02:25:25,320 --> 02:25:25,632
I feel is a very fair value as

4577
02:25:25,632 --> 02:25:27,868
well. So when I say net

4578
02:25:27,868 --> 02:25:30,370
exchange differential, what I

4579
02:25:30,370 --> 02:25:32,390
mean is the difference. The

4580
02:25:32,390 --> 02:25:33,139
delta between the value,

4581
02:25:33,139 --> 02:25:34,541
negotiated value of 5 23rd

4582
02:25:34,541 --> 02:25:36,443
Street and then negotiated

4583
02:25:36,443 --> 02:25:39,443
value of existing city Hall

4584
02:25:39,479 --> 02:25:40,114
campus. That is 4.5 million.

4585
02:25:40,114 --> 02:25:43,490
And that is what the city

4586
02:25:43,490 --> 02:25:43,751
would pay to Montz llc at the

4587
02:25:43,751 --> 02:25:45,252
close of escrow for the

4588
02:25:45,252 --> 02:25:47,652
exchange to happen. Next

4589
02:25:49,456 --> 02:25:51,458
slide. Please. What is the

4590
02:25:51,458 --> 02:25:52,960
city gain? The city gains a

4591
02:25:52,960 --> 02:25:54,594
lot. The taxpayers gain a lot.

4592
02:25:54,594 --> 02:25:57,698
I can't harp on this and not

4593
02:25:57,698 --> 02:25:58,265
design or cfo. Really harp on

4594
02:25:58,265 --> 02:26:00,167
is we are eliminating

4595
02:26:00,167 --> 02:26:00,835
100 million dollar liability

4596
02:26:00,835 --> 02:26:03,835
from the taxpayers from the

4597
02:26:08,542 --> 02:26:11,579
city. We gained so much being

4598
02:26:11,579 --> 02:26:12,546
in one building. It's

4599
02:26:12,546 --> 02:26:14,515
consolidating departments and

4600
02:26:14,515 --> 02:26:16,550
its customer service. It's the

4601
02:26:16,550 --> 02:26:17,251
ability to put a one-stop shop

4602
02:26:17,251 --> 02:26:20,851
and so that we can our

4603
02:26:21,880 --> 02:26:22,957
community can walk in and get

4604
02:26:22,957 --> 02:26:23,791
almost every service that they

4605
02:26:23,791 --> 02:26:25,693
want and one place instead of

4606
02:26:25,693 --> 02:26:27,693
walking into 5 different

4607
02:26:27,728 --> 02:26:28,496
places are having to go here

4608
02:26:28,496 --> 02:26:29,163
or across the street or

4609
02:26:29,163 --> 02:26:31,563
across, you know, wherever

4610
02:26:32,899 --> 02:26:34,535
they need to go. Its strength

4611
02:26:34,535 --> 02:26:35,636
shun strengthens the

4612
02:26:35,636 --> 02:26:36,337
collaboration across city

4613
02:26:36,337 --> 02:26:38,306
services and city departments

4614
02:26:38,306 --> 02:26:38,973
and even allows us to move

4615
02:26:38,973 --> 02:26:40,808
other departments into the

4616
02:26:40,808 --> 02:26:41,541
building that are not to are

4617
02:26:41,541 --> 02:26:44,541
not downtown already. And that

4618
02:26:45,546 --> 02:26:47,480
has. Even more facts, right?

4619
02:26:47,480 --> 02:26:47,882
And it allows us to

4620
02:26:47,882 --> 02:26:49,490
collaborate more with each

4621
02:26:49,490 --> 02:26:50,485
other, which gives us a better

4622
02:26:50,485 --> 02:26:51,185
customer service. It also

4623
02:26:51,185 --> 02:26:53,585
brings a significant even

4624
02:26:56,423 --> 02:26:57,725
more. Employees down to use

4625
02:26:57,725 --> 02:26:59,560
the services to go to the

4626
02:26:59,560 --> 02:27:00,628
businesses, to have to go out

4627
02:27:00,628 --> 02:27:03,628
after work. It helps our

4628
02:27:04,132 --> 02:27:04,799
community and so many ways

4629
02:27:04,799 --> 02:27:06,000
it's it's a some markets, a

4630
02:27:06,000 --> 02:27:08,000
smart community investment

4631
02:27:08,636 --> 02:27:11,636
next slide. Please. Turn this

4632
02:27:12,573 --> 02:27:15,409
over to director Hennessey as

4633
02:27:15,409 --> 02:27:16,244
Joe mentions or keep in about

4634
02:27:16,244 --> 02:27:18,644
1.6 acres and it's highlighted

4635
02:27:18,813 --> 02:27:19,580
by that image on the scene

4636
02:27:19,580 --> 02:27:20,214
from close to center as Avenue

4637
02:27:20,214 --> 02:27:22,614
looking back towards Nome

4638
02:27:22,650 --> 02:27:23,885
Avenue.

4639
02:27:23,885 --> 02:27:25,986
>> The 1.6 acres is at its

4640
02:27:25,986 --> 02:27:27,989
widest at certain center is

4641
02:27:27,989 --> 02:27:29,958
avenue and then kind of comes

4642
02:27:29,958 --> 02:27:31,920
back through here and almost

4643
02:27:31,920 --> 02:27:32,494
scrapes this corner of the

4644
02:27:32,494 --> 02:27:33,194
building before heading down

4645
02:27:33,194 --> 02:27:36,698
Sonoma to all the way to the

4646
02:27:36,698 --> 02:27:38,699
street. The purpose of the

4647
02:27:38,699 --> 02:27:40,602
retention of this is because

4648
02:27:40,602 --> 02:27:44,202
it has a number of potential

4649
02:27:44,505 --> 02:27:45,473
uses for First and foremost is

4650
02:27:45,473 --> 02:27:46,174
the creek uncovered

4651
02:27:46,174 --> 02:27:48,574
infrastructure that is under

4652
02:27:50,612 --> 02:27:52,414
that that land. Right now. It

4653
02:27:52,414 --> 02:27:56,284
does lot of work for us with

4654
02:27:56,284 --> 02:27:58,419
respect to flood as you know,

4655
02:27:58,419 --> 02:27:59,721
fema has released updated fund

4656
02:27:59,721 --> 02:28:00,421
risk maps that we are

4657
02:28:00,421 --> 02:28:01,122
reviewing in concert with our

4658
02:28:01,122 --> 02:28:04,122
partners at the Sonoma County

4659
02:28:04,592 --> 02:28:06,428
Water Agency for how we're

4660
02:28:06,428 --> 02:28:08,529
going to address those risks

4661
02:28:08,529 --> 02:28:10,929
moving forward. Retention of

4662
02:28:11,465 --> 02:28:12,533
this property gives us a

4663
02:28:12,533 --> 02:28:13,368
number of options to do that.

4664
02:28:13,368 --> 02:28:14,202
And in fact, it gives us the

4665
02:28:14,202 --> 02:28:16,738
same number of options that we

4666
02:28:16,738 --> 02:28:18,639
have today to do that. So

4667
02:28:18,639 --> 02:28:19,608
essentially, by keeping this

4668
02:28:19,608 --> 02:28:20,942
property, there is no change

4669
02:28:20,942 --> 02:28:22,710
to what the city and the

4670
02:28:22,710 --> 02:28:23,445
county collectively can do

4671
02:28:23,445 --> 02:28:26,445
with respect to mitigate flood

4672
02:28:28,883 --> 02:28:29,884
risk in the future. This also

4673
02:28:29,884 --> 02:28:30,952
does provide, you know,

4674
02:28:30,952 --> 02:28:31,886
pointing out towards Juilliard

4675
02:28:31,886 --> 02:28:33,420
Park towards Luther Burbank,

4676
02:28:33,420 --> 02:28:34,122
home and Garden tours to

4677
02:28:34,122 --> 02:28:36,522
intersection of Sonoma Avenue

4678
02:28:37,325 --> 02:28:39,327
and Saint Rose Avenue gives us

4679
02:28:39,327 --> 02:28:40,362
the opportunity for other

4680
02:28:40,362 --> 02:28:41,610
things, too like Placemaking

4681
02:28:41,610 --> 02:28:44,661
we'll be happy to answer any

4682
02:28:48,437 --> 02:28:51,437
questions you have on that.

4683
02:28:51,472 --> 02:28:53,408
>> How we make the move for.

4684
02:28:53,408 --> 02:28:54,142
This another area of where

4685
02:28:54,142 --> 02:28:56,578
really thought through what we

4686
02:28:56,578 --> 02:28:59,414
don't want to disrupt service

4687
02:28:59,414 --> 02:29:00,382
to the public at all. And so

4688
02:29:00,382 --> 02:29:01,749
we had to think about how we

4689
02:29:01,749 --> 02:29:02,583
prepare 5.24 the city to move

4690
02:29:02,583 --> 02:29:06,183
into it. If the council does

4691
02:29:06,455 --> 02:29:07,322
approve this transaction

4692
02:29:07,322 --> 02:29:09,558
tonight, so will need to

4693
02:29:09,558 --> 02:29:10,224
complete design and tenant

4694
02:29:10,224 --> 02:29:12,224
improvements or estimating

4695
02:29:12,561 --> 02:29:14,496
right now that those will be

4696
02:29:14,496 --> 02:29:15,863
between 17 20 Million. But

4697
02:29:15,863 --> 02:29:16,532
those will come back to

4698
02:29:16,532 --> 02:29:18,133
council will make it closer

4699
02:29:18,133 --> 02:29:19,300
for appropriations and for

4700
02:29:19,300 --> 02:29:22,700
review. When we get closer and

4701
02:29:22,700 --> 02:29:24,172
get a more defined dollar

4702
02:29:24,172 --> 02:29:26,608
amount, we'll need to put a

4703
02:29:26,608 --> 02:29:29,800
plan together and relocate

4704
02:29:29,611 --> 02:29:30,879
existing commercial tenants

4705
02:29:30,879 --> 02:29:32,648
and then we need to just

4706
02:29:32,648 --> 02:29:33,581
prepare the space for city

4707
02:29:33,581 --> 02:29:35,851
departments to move into an

4708
02:29:35,851 --> 02:29:38,554
order to do that. We needed to

4709
02:29:38,554 --> 02:29:40,880
lease back on this property

4710
02:29:40,880 --> 02:29:42,524
and that this was another

4711
02:29:42,524 --> 02:29:43,325
thing that we had to take into

4712
02:29:43,325 --> 02:29:45,160
consideration and the value of

4713
02:29:45,160 --> 02:29:46,695
the property. And in the

4714
02:29:46,695 --> 02:29:49,695
exchange partner, we needed to

4715
02:29:50,990 --> 02:29:52,234
be able we can't move 300 or

4716
02:29:52,234 --> 02:29:53,369
400 people overnight and we

4717
02:29:53,369 --> 02:29:54,102
can't disrupt services like

4718
02:29:54,102 --> 02:29:56,839
that to the community. We have

4719
02:29:56,839 --> 02:29:58,507
to be able to supply those

4720
02:29:58,507 --> 02:29:59,208
services. So Hamas agreed to

4721
02:29:59,208 --> 02:30:01,608
through their negotiations to

4722
02:30:02,478 --> 02:30:03,145
allow us to lease back 2 years

4723
02:30:03,145 --> 02:30:04,813
on this campus at 100 Santa

4724
02:30:04,813 --> 02:30:06,150
Rosa Avenue. So we still

4725
02:30:06,150 --> 02:30:07,982
having these in this chamber

4726
02:30:07,982 --> 02:30:10,819
for 2 more years doing these

4727
02:30:10,819 --> 02:30:12,888
meetings and one year at City

4728
02:30:12,888 --> 02:30:13,989
Hall Annex 90 Santa Rosa

4729
02:30:13,989 --> 02:30:15,623
Avenue. Mostly because most of

4730
02:30:15,623 --> 02:30:16,358
our it operations happened out

4731
02:30:16,358 --> 02:30:19,628
of there and will need time to

4732
02:30:19,628 --> 02:30:22,628
prepare those and move them.

4733
02:30:22,698 --> 02:30:24,733
And and they agreed to lease

4734
02:30:24,733 --> 02:30:27,302
back for a total of $2, but is

4735
02:30:27,302 --> 02:30:28,300
$2 total for all of that lease

4736
02:30:28,300 --> 02:30:30,403
back consideration? And that

4737
02:30:31,540 --> 02:30:33,476
was a big deal for the city.

4738
02:30:33,476 --> 02:30:35,644
And and then the 3rd part is

4739
02:30:35,644 --> 02:30:37,130
we need to consolidate and set

4740
02:30:37,130 --> 02:30:38,748
up our one stop shop. So we're

4741
02:30:38,748 --> 02:30:40,490
not disrupting service. So

4742
02:30:40,490 --> 02:30:42,550
we'll do that. He eyes over in

4743
02:30:42,550 --> 02:30:43,519
the new building. The tenant

4744
02:30:43,519 --> 02:30:45,519
improvements to transition

4745
02:30:46,922 --> 02:30:47,589
people in space into it. When

4746
02:30:47,589 --> 02:30:50,589
the public counter space is

4747
02:30:50,893 --> 02:30:52,270
complete and ready. Then we

4748
02:30:52,270 --> 02:30:54,620
will move public counters from

4749
02:30:54,620 --> 02:30:55,331
here to there. But we won't be

4750
02:30:55,331 --> 02:30:56,980
moving those and tell the

4751
02:30:56,980 --> 02:30:56,799
spaces ready. So there's no

4752
02:30:56,799 --> 02:30:59,799
disruption in service for the

4753
02:31:00,769 --> 02:31:03,169
community. Next slide. The

4754
02:31:05,174 --> 02:31:05,841
other thing is is there's

4755
02:31:05,841 --> 02:31:07,109
closing. So lake, even when

4756
02:31:07,109 --> 02:31:08,243
you now say you're buying a

4757
02:31:08,243 --> 02:31:08,878
house, you come to an

4758
02:31:08,878 --> 02:31:09,612
agreement. You negotiate

4759
02:31:09,612 --> 02:31:12,612
agreement just like we have

4760
02:31:13,449 --> 02:31:14,617
you open escrow during that

4761
02:31:14,617 --> 02:31:15,818
escrow period. You have an

4762
02:31:15,818 --> 02:31:16,518
inspection period. You're

4763
02:31:16,518 --> 02:31:17,219
looking at the house. You're

4764
02:31:17,219 --> 02:31:17,820
looking at the property. It's

4765
02:31:17,820 --> 02:31:18,520
the same thing with an

4766
02:31:18,520 --> 02:31:20,920
exchange agreement or any

4767
02:31:22,230 --> 02:31:24,423
acquisition for that matter.

4768
02:31:25,661 --> 02:31:27,830
So during if council passes us

4769
02:31:27,830 --> 02:31:30,650
tonight during this time and

4770
02:31:30,650 --> 02:31:30,767
when we close escrow, there'll

4771
02:31:30,767 --> 02:31:32,602
be some things that we still

4772
02:31:32,602 --> 02:31:34,803
need to work through and work

4773
02:31:34,803 --> 02:31:36,806
on. So where need to establish

4774
02:31:36,806 --> 02:31:37,540
a process? Tonight's Exchange

4775
02:31:37,540 --> 02:31:40,540
agreement, if you approve this

4776
02:31:40,977 --> 02:31:42,979
also approves it. Iwork letter

4777
02:31:42,979 --> 02:31:43,979
to and establishes a process

4778
02:31:43,979 --> 02:31:45,114
for design, pricing

4779
02:31:45,114 --> 02:31:45,815
construction and tenant

4780
02:31:45,815 --> 02:31:46,382
improvements on 5.20. But it

4781
02:31:46,382 --> 02:31:47,950
does not approve the

4782
02:31:47,950 --> 02:31:49,785
appropriations for that yet.

4783
02:31:49,785 --> 02:31:53,822
So we will be back to council

4784
02:31:53,822 --> 02:31:55,224
and public session to talk

4785
02:31:55,224 --> 02:31:55,891
about the scope and the amount

4786
02:31:55,891 --> 02:31:58,291
and the appropriations that

4787
02:31:59,429 --> 02:32:00,964
will need for that. We need to

4788
02:32:00,964 --> 02:32:01,931
finish up relocation plans

4789
02:32:01,931 --> 02:32:02,765
with the tenants. Help find

4790
02:32:02,765 --> 02:32:05,765
those tenants space if they

4791
02:32:07,360 --> 02:32:08,571
want our help work out, what

4792
02:32:08,571 --> 02:32:09,239
their what they will be

4793
02:32:09,239 --> 02:32:11,639
through the relocations. So

4794
02:32:12,741 --> 02:32:13,676
there is a state relocation

4795
02:32:13,676 --> 02:32:15,578
process that we are mandated

4796
02:32:15,578 --> 02:32:16,212
to follow and which we will

4797
02:32:16,212 --> 02:32:16,979
and which we need to help

4798
02:32:16,979 --> 02:32:17,647
those tenants. And we will

4799
02:32:17,647 --> 02:32:20,549
have some payments to those

4800
02:32:20,549 --> 02:32:21,251
tenants as well for their

4801
02:32:21,251 --> 02:32:23,651
moving expenses. Among other

4802
02:32:25,550 --> 02:32:26,756
things. There was one tenant

4803
02:32:26,756 --> 02:32:29,224
in the building that had

4804
02:32:29,224 --> 02:32:31,127
already had plans to long

4805
02:32:31,127 --> 02:32:34,727
before the city had come into

4806
02:32:34,898 --> 02:32:35,498
play. That one 10, came to us

4807
02:32:35,498 --> 02:32:36,899
and said, would you be

4808
02:32:36,899 --> 02:32:39,299
interested? We'd like to

4809
02:32:39,369 --> 02:32:39,969
leave. Could you take over our

4810
02:32:39,969 --> 02:32:42,969
lease? And we said yes,

4811
02:32:43,339 --> 02:32:44,400
because the hot makes it a lot

4812
02:32:44,400 --> 02:32:44,707
easier for the tenant and for

4813
02:32:44,707 --> 02:32:48,307
the city. We can move some

4814
02:32:48,445 --> 02:32:50,145
staff that we need. We'll need

4815
02:32:50,145 --> 02:32:50,780
to move out of the chamber

4816
02:32:50,780 --> 02:32:52,215
building at the close of

4817
02:32:52,215 --> 02:32:54,384
escrow. So we'll be moving

4818
02:32:54,384 --> 02:32:57,984
some staff from there and here

4819
02:32:58,388 --> 02:33:01,324
and allows us some extra space

4820
02:33:01,324 --> 02:33:02,359
for transition. The city

4821
02:33:02,359 --> 02:33:04,260
assume the lease rent from

4822
02:33:04,260 --> 02:33:04,728
SEPTEMBER first through

4823
02:33:04,728 --> 02:33:07,728
DECEMBER 31st. When we expect

4824
02:33:09,640 --> 02:33:09,866
to close escrow part of

4825
02:33:09,866 --> 02:33:10,534
relocation is an appraisal

4826
02:33:10,534 --> 02:33:14,134
process that we do that we

4827
02:33:14,337 --> 02:33:14,971
hire outside experts for and

4828
02:33:14,971 --> 02:33:15,806
they up raise the cost of

4829
02:33:15,806 --> 02:33:18,206
their fsa. Furnitures and

4830
02:33:18,742 --> 02:33:21,142
fixtures and equipment. And

4831
02:33:21,778 --> 02:33:22,813
then we can either pay to have

4832
02:33:22,813 --> 02:33:24,547
them moved or we can offer to

4833
02:33:24,547 --> 02:33:26,383
purchase sighed equipment. And

4834
02:33:26,383 --> 02:33:27,117
this case they had very nice

4835
02:33:27,117 --> 02:33:30,117
furniture that would work well

4836
02:33:30,586 --> 02:33:32,322
for the city. So we offered

4837
02:33:32,322 --> 02:33:34,291
them 50% of the appraised

4838
02:33:34,291 --> 02:33:37,227
value and they did accept. And

4839
02:33:37,227 --> 02:33:37,928
so the city is paying 55,008,

4840
02:33:37,928 --> 02:33:40,328
77 for the existing furniture

4841
02:33:41,564 --> 02:33:42,199
and not space for the city to

4842
02:33:42,199 --> 02:33:45,199
go out buy that furniture

4843
02:33:45,635 --> 02:33:48,635
would be much more expensive.

4844
02:33:48,672 --> 02:33:49,372
The assignment in this

4845
02:33:49,372 --> 02:33:50,400
agreement, the assignment of

4846
02:33:50,400 --> 02:33:51,675
the lease would end at the

4847
02:33:51,675 --> 02:33:52,909
close of escrow and there and

4848
02:33:52,909 --> 02:33:53,577
we would let them out of their

4849
02:33:53,577 --> 02:33:56,413
lease and that would be the

4850
02:33:56,413 --> 02:33:57,800
end of any lease payment that

4851
02:33:57,800 --> 02:33:57,814
we have other tenant

4852
02:33:57,814 --> 02:34:00,214
arrangements will and the

4853
02:34:01,417 --> 02:34:02,252
relocation process will keep

4854
02:34:02,252 --> 02:34:04,652
going through through this

4855
02:34:06,489 --> 02:34:09,192
process. The other thing that

4856
02:34:09,192 --> 02:34:10,227
we will need to do and the

4857
02:34:10,227 --> 02:34:12,461
developers asked for is a

4858
02:34:12,461 --> 02:34:13,129
development agreement,

4859
02:34:13,129 --> 02:34:13,830
development agreement has a

4860
02:34:13,830 --> 02:34:15,830
completely separate processes

4861
02:34:18,268 --> 02:34:19,102
of his own. It will come back

4862
02:34:19,102 --> 02:34:20,204
to planning Commission for

4863
02:34:20,204 --> 02:34:22,239
consideration. So we'll work

4864
02:34:22,239 --> 02:34:23,606
on trying to negotiate a very

4865
02:34:23,606 --> 02:34:25,606
draft development agreement

4866
02:34:27,378 --> 02:34:28,780
with the developer. That will

4867
02:34:28,780 --> 02:34:28,712
go to planning Commission for

4868
02:34:28,712 --> 02:34:31,415
their input in for public

4869
02:34:31,415 --> 02:34:33,483
input and a public meeting,

4870
02:34:33,483 --> 02:34:34,685
then it will go to city

4871
02:34:34,685 --> 02:34:36,720
Council twice and a public

4872
02:34:36,720 --> 02:34:38,589
meeting for your input and the

4873
02:34:38,589 --> 02:34:39,222
communities put input again.

4874
02:34:39,222 --> 02:34:40,900
So it's total of 3 public

4875
02:34:40,900 --> 02:34:41,558
meetings and it does have its

4876
02:34:41,558 --> 02:34:43,558
own environmental process.

4877
02:34:45,161 --> 02:34:48,161
Next slide, please. So from

4878
02:34:51,402 --> 02:34:52,102
today until closing today, if

4879
02:34:52,102 --> 02:34:53,503
Council approves the exchange

4880
02:34:53,503 --> 02:34:54,638
agreement, if you authorize

4881
02:34:54,638 --> 02:34:55,272
and you adopt the secret

4882
02:34:55,272 --> 02:34:55,939
findings for the Exchange

4883
02:34:55,939 --> 02:34:57,939
agreement that transaction

4884
02:34:59,376 --> 02:35:01,711
begins. After this. The 85 day

4885
02:35:01,711 --> 02:35:04,111
due diligence period will

4886
02:35:04,415 --> 02:35:07,415
start during that 85 days. We

4887
02:35:07,418 --> 02:35:08,452
will too We will do at a lot

4888
02:35:08,452 --> 02:35:09,119
of testing. We already have.

4889
02:35:09,119 --> 02:35:11,455
It is lined up just in case

4890
02:35:11,455 --> 02:35:13,223
counsel prove said we will

4891
02:35:13,223 --> 02:35:13,924
begin testing on the building

4892
02:35:13,924 --> 02:35:17,227
to make sure that we know all

4893
02:35:17,227 --> 02:35:19,630
of the ins and outs of this

4894
02:35:19,630 --> 02:35:20,263
building. So this is also part

4895
02:35:20,263 --> 02:35:23,000
of how we would set up a

4896
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:24,101
facilities plan going forward.

4897
02:35:24,101 --> 02:35:27,438
And I think I've mentioned in

4898
02:35:27,438 --> 02:35:28,139
past meetings that we very

4899
02:35:28,139 --> 02:35:31,139
much planned to. This will

4900
02:35:32,243 --> 02:35:33,377
these 2 guys right here. Our

4901
02:35:33,377 --> 02:35:34,645
cfo and director Hennessy will

4902
02:35:34,645 --> 02:35:35,446
bring forward a plan to

4903
02:35:35,446 --> 02:35:38,446
council to probably with the

4904
02:35:39,183 --> 02:35:39,884
budget every year to make sure

4905
02:35:39,884 --> 02:35:41,152
that we have enough money in

4906
02:35:41,152 --> 02:35:42,220
the budget every year to

4907
02:35:42,220 --> 02:35:42,887
properly maintain the new

4908
02:35:42,887 --> 02:35:43,621
building so that we're not

4909
02:35:43,621 --> 02:35:46,524
getting back in the situation.

4910
02:35:46,524 --> 02:35:47,592
We are now. So we'll have

4911
02:35:47,592 --> 02:35:49,592
other things. Relocation

4912
02:35:50,795 --> 02:35:51,462
plans, a stop. Assignments,

4913
02:35:51,462 --> 02:35:52,763
transaction documents that

4914
02:35:52,763 --> 02:35:53,898
will have to that will have to

4915
02:35:53,898 --> 02:35:54,998
work through. Some of those

4916
02:35:54,998 --> 02:35:56,767
will have to come back to

4917
02:35:56,767 --> 02:35:58,736
council for approval. Some of

4918
02:35:58,736 --> 02:35:59,637
those will be under the city

4919
02:35:59,637 --> 02:36:02,370
manager's authority to approve

4920
02:36:02,540 --> 02:36:03,306
her. This exchange agreement,

4921
02:36:03,306 --> 02:36:04,410
the ones that require

4922
02:36:04,410 --> 02:36:07,410
appropriations will be back to

4923
02:36:07,311 --> 02:36:09,470
the city council. Once we

4924
02:36:09,470 --> 02:36:11,447
satisfy all of those

4925
02:36:12,316 --> 02:36:13,250
conditions and we're ready to

4926
02:36:13,250 --> 02:36:13,885
close, we plan to close on

4927
02:36:13,885 --> 02:36:16,285
DECEMBER 31st. That's our

4928
02:36:18,856 --> 02:36:19,490
goal. I should say. The city

4929
02:36:19,490 --> 02:36:21,759
would acquire than 5 23rd

4930
02:36:21,759 --> 02:36:22,860
Street Mott. So we'll see what

4931
02:36:22,860 --> 02:36:24,595
occurred. Why the exchange

4932
02:36:24,595 --> 02:36:27,595
property? The city hall cancel

4933
02:36:27,799 --> 02:36:28,533
the Kent campus. The payments.

4934
02:36:28,533 --> 02:36:30,933
4.5 million dollars and the

4935
02:36:31,468 --> 02:36:34,405
least back time will begin now

4936
02:36:34,405 --> 02:36:35,573
sometimes with government. We

4937
02:36:35,573 --> 02:36:36,608
don't like this, but we do

4938
02:36:36,608 --> 02:36:37,742
have a lot of regulations. We

4939
02:36:37,742 --> 02:36:40,742
have especially a lot of

4940
02:36:42,613 --> 02:36:44,315
regulations with Acquisition

4941
02:36:44,315 --> 02:36:45,216
process is and this is a type

4942
02:36:45,216 --> 02:36:45,917
of the acquisition process and

4943
02:36:45,917 --> 02:36:48,917
sometimes that causes a delay

4944
02:36:52,890 --> 02:36:54,626
that we don't like so if. Due

4945
02:36:54,626 --> 02:36:58,226
solely to our we have to

4946
02:36:59,564 --> 02:37:00,998
extend escrow. Part of the

4947
02:37:00,998 --> 02:37:03,998
agreement is that we will

4948
02:37:04,680 --> 02:37:04,769
payments. $37,500 a month,

4949
02:37:04,769 --> 02:37:07,769
which would be prorated daily

4950
02:37:08,600 --> 02:37:08,705
if it's a half a month for

4951
02:37:08,705 --> 02:37:11,108
every month that we go over,

4952
02:37:11,108 --> 02:37:11,776
we did put a cap on that at

4953
02:37:11,776 --> 02:37:14,176
$450,000. But its side does

4954
02:37:17,382 --> 02:37:18,950
happen. It could cars the 4.5

4955
02:37:18,950 --> 02:37:21,950
million to be slightly more.

4956
02:37:23,922 --> 02:37:26,922
Next slide. Please. That turn

4957
02:37:28,860 --> 02:37:30,462
this over to our cfo thank

4958
02:37:30,462 --> 02:37:31,162
you, for the remainder of

4959
02:37:31,162 --> 02:37:34,165
these sides, I'm going to get

4960
02:37:34,165 --> 02:37:34,565
into some more of the

4961
02:37:34,565 --> 02:37:35,299
specifics.

4962
02:37:35,299 --> 02:37:37,699
>> Around how this transaction

4963
02:37:38,269 --> 02:37:40,372
is going to proceed. As you

4964
02:37:40,372 --> 02:37:41,305
mentioned, there's a 4.5,

4965
02:37:41,305 --> 02:37:41,873
5 million dollar difference

4966
02:37:41,873 --> 02:37:42,574
between the exchange

4967
02:37:42,574 --> 02:37:45,574
properties that that she took

4968
02:37:46,811 --> 02:37:48,847
us through. The overall

4969
02:37:48,847 --> 02:37:49,514
implementation costs of 17 to

4970
02:37:49,514 --> 02:37:50,181
20 million dollars. The way

4971
02:37:50,181 --> 02:37:50,949
that I would describe that

4972
02:37:50,949 --> 02:37:53,718
from a finance perspective is

4973
02:37:53,718 --> 02:37:55,530
that's being fully burdened.

4974
02:37:55,530 --> 02:37:55,820
So given analogy, when I

4975
02:37:55,820 --> 02:37:57,522
bought my first house, we

4976
02:37:57,522 --> 02:37:58,223
bought the house and we didn't

4977
02:37:58,223 --> 02:37:58,890
have the money for the couch

4978
02:37:58,890 --> 02:38:00,358
and the moving expenses and

4979
02:38:00,358 --> 02:38:02,560
all that stuff. We're not

4980
02:38:02,560 --> 02:38:05,564
doing that here. We are fully

4981
02:38:05,564 --> 02:38:07,432
baking in all of the moving

4982
02:38:07,432 --> 02:38:08,533
expenses, the tenant

4983
02:38:08,533 --> 02:38:09,534
improvements that are going to

4984
02:38:09,534 --> 02:38:10,969
happen in the building. The

4985
02:38:10,969 --> 02:38:11,703
architectural designs, the

4986
02:38:11,703 --> 02:38:13,904
professional services that are

4987
02:38:13,904 --> 02:38:14,905
going to be needed. We'll add

4988
02:38:14,905 --> 02:38:16,675
that. I think we're going to

4989
02:38:16,675 --> 02:38:19,343
be on the low end of that

4990
02:38:19,343 --> 02:38:20,450
estimate. We've put together a

4991
02:38:20,450 --> 02:38:22,247
very thoughtful, well baked

4992
02:38:22,247 --> 02:38:24,349
planted to kind of make that

4993
02:38:24,349 --> 02:38:26,984
all there. At the end of the

4994
02:38:26,984 --> 02:38:27,586
day, we're anticipating the

4995
02:38:27,586 --> 02:38:28,253
ongoing expenses to the

4996
02:38:28,253 --> 02:38:29,821
general fund to be around a

4997
02:38:29,821 --> 02:38:31,923
little less than 1 million

4998
02:38:31,923 --> 02:38:32,724
dollars. What we're going to

4999
02:38:32,724 --> 02:38:34,590
do is we're gonna have to go

5000
02:38:34,590 --> 02:38:34,759
out and raise some debt for

5001
02:38:34,759 --> 02:38:35,626
this. There's different debt

5002
02:38:35,626 --> 02:38:37,763
tools that we can use as a

5003
02:38:37,763 --> 02:38:40,632
city to be able to finance

5004
02:38:40,632 --> 02:38:42,000
that I can say publicly. Now

5005
02:38:42,000 --> 02:38:43,868
it's about public knowledge.

5006
02:38:43,868 --> 02:38:46,205
I've been meeting with rating

5007
02:38:46,205 --> 02:38:46,872
agencies recently. We are very

5008
02:38:46,872 --> 02:38:47,573
credit worthy where a very

5009
02:38:47,573 --> 02:38:49,174
strong financial positions to

5010
02:38:49,174 --> 02:38:49,875
be able to take this action

5011
02:38:49,875 --> 02:38:53,475
based on the strength of our

5012
02:38:57,949 --> 02:38:59,918
community. Let's drill down on

5013
02:38:59,918 --> 02:39:00,552
the specifics just a little

5014
02:39:00,552 --> 02:39:02,952
bit more. The 4.5 million

5015
02:39:03,121 --> 02:39:05,924
dollars worth of the exchange

5016
02:39:05,924 --> 02:39:07,590
amount council has already

5017
02:39:07,590 --> 02:39:09,459
assigned to fire 4.5 million

5018
02:39:10,950 --> 02:39:10,828
dollars of that money. This is

5019
02:39:10,828 --> 02:39:12,864
prior council action to

5020
02:39:12,864 --> 02:39:15,864
address facility needs in the

5021
02:39:15,934 --> 02:39:18,934
city that we're allocating in

5022
02:39:19,460 --> 02:39:20,171
this way. That's best to use

5023
02:39:20,171 --> 02:39:22,274
of those funds. We're asking

5024
02:39:22,274 --> 02:39:23,942
for an additional less than

5025
02:39:23,942 --> 02:39:26,111
$50,000 as part of this action

5026
02:39:26,111 --> 02:39:27,112
to meet that differential

5027
02:39:27,112 --> 02:39:29,512
difference of the 4.5 versus

5028
02:39:32,651 --> 02:39:34,486
the 4 points. 5, 4, 6, As Joe

5029
02:39:34,486 --> 02:39:35,688
mentioned, there's going to be

5030
02:39:35,688 --> 02:39:38,490
around little let little more

5031
02:39:38,490 --> 02:39:39,224
than $80,000 with additional

5032
02:39:39,224 --> 02:39:42,600
expenses tied to the take over

5033
02:39:42,600 --> 02:39:42,728
of the lease at the new

5034
02:39:42,728 --> 02:39:45,728
property to get some office

5035
02:39:46,131 --> 02:39:46,965
space for us right away. And

5036
02:39:46,965 --> 02:39:47,633
to have smoother transition

5037
02:39:47,633 --> 02:39:50,633
with one of the established

5038
02:39:51,670 --> 02:39:53,272
tenants. Are you mention less

5039
02:39:53,272 --> 02:39:54,172
than a million dollars of

5040
02:39:54,172 --> 02:39:54,906
ongoing annual costs spread

5041
02:39:54,906 --> 02:39:57,906
over potentially what would be

5042
02:39:58,410 --> 02:40:01,180
30 years? Key to that number

5043
02:40:01,180 --> 02:40:02,481
is a number that we spoke

5044
02:40:02,481 --> 02:40:04,481
about earlier. 1 million

5045
02:40:05,451 --> 02:40:07,860
dollars is a lot less than

5046
02:40:07,860 --> 02:40:07,786
6 million dollars. That is

5047
02:40:07,786 --> 02:40:09,288
something that comes up very

5048
02:40:09,288 --> 02:40:09,988
frequently in these

5049
02:40:09,988 --> 02:40:12,388
conversations. But as point

5050
02:40:13,759 --> 02:40:15,600
important point out,

5051
02:40:15,600 --> 02:40:15,761
fundamentally, today's action

5052
02:40:15,761 --> 02:40:17,597
is about maintaining in

5053
02:40:17,597 --> 02:40:18,197
safeguarding the services that

5054
02:40:18,197 --> 02:40:20,597
we're providing to the

5055
02:40:20,766 --> 02:40:22,766
community. Joe mentioned

5056
02:40:24,570 --> 02:40:25,538
there's going to be a $2 lease

5057
02:40:25,538 --> 02:40:27,573
back. I will share that. There

5058
02:40:27,573 --> 02:40:28,240
was coincidentally a $2

5059
02:40:28,240 --> 02:40:30,977
donation to the city today

5060
02:40:30,977 --> 02:40:33,112
over at the revenue counter.

5061
02:40:33,112 --> 02:40:34,713
Sam Davis is ready to receive

5062
02:40:34,713 --> 02:40:35,380
that money. But overall we'll

5063
02:40:35,380 --> 02:40:38,980
be able to lease back this

5064
02:40:40,186 --> 02:40:41,487
property for $2 that's a great

5065
02:40:41,487 --> 02:40:42,788
deal for us because it's going

5066
02:40:42,788 --> 02:40:44,623
to give us transition time

5067
02:40:44,623 --> 02:40:46,392
that we're going to need as an

5068
02:40:46,392 --> 02:40:48,194
organization to execute this

5069
02:40:48,194 --> 02:40:49,262
move in all of the complicated

5070
02:40:49,262 --> 02:40:52,262
ways they're going to happen

5071
02:40:54,734 --> 02:40:56,602
potentially after today. So

5072
02:40:56,602 --> 02:40:57,970
today's council action just to

5073
02:40:57,970 --> 02:41:00,940
summarize is is asking council

5074
02:41:00,940 --> 02:41:03,376
to declare an exempt surplus

5075
02:41:03,376 --> 02:41:03,976
land adopt an example exempt

5076
02:41:03,976 --> 02:41:05,144
surplus Land resolution

5077
02:41:05,144 --> 02:41:07,130
declaring the identified

5078
02:41:07,130 --> 02:41:09,413
exchange property exempt a

5079
02:41:09,748 --> 02:41:10,416
surplus land make the required

5080
02:41:10,416 --> 02:41:12,816
sequel. Findings and second

5081
02:41:14,786 --> 02:41:15,822
approve the exchange adopt the

5082
02:41:15,822 --> 02:41:16,489
exchange agreement resolution

5083
02:41:16,489 --> 02:41:18,889
approved the real property

5084
02:41:18,925 --> 02:41:20,293
sheens agreement with Montel c

5085
02:41:20,293 --> 02:41:22,395
adopt the secret findings

5086
02:41:22,395 --> 02:41:23,296
authorize the city manager to

5087
02:41:23,296 --> 02:41:25,498
execute these change agreement

5088
02:41:25,498 --> 02:41:27,898
and all related transaction

5089
02:41:28,267 --> 02:41:29,435
docks. I will give a brief

5090
02:41:29,435 --> 02:41:31,370
closing on any subject that

5091
02:41:31,370 --> 02:41:32,205
has been talked about at this

5092
02:41:32,205 --> 02:41:35,205
South table for decades and

5093
02:41:39,780 --> 02:41:39,812
for a very long period of time

5094
02:41:39,812 --> 02:41:41,414
like the actions council has

5095
02:41:41,414 --> 02:41:44,414
been taking over the past 3

5096
02:41:45,185 --> 02:41:47,420
years. This is a big swing on

5097
02:41:47,420 --> 02:41:49,388
an area of deep, deep need in

5098
02:41:49,388 --> 02:41:51,424
our city. These large

5099
02:41:51,424 --> 02:41:52,659
liabilities that are in the 9

5100
02:41:52,659 --> 02:41:53,893
figures like the one we're

5101
02:41:53,893 --> 02:41:54,594
addressing today have real

5102
02:41:54,594 --> 02:41:56,896
impact on the way that we're

5103
02:41:56,896 --> 02:41:57,530
able to provide service to our

5104
02:41:57,530 --> 02:41:59,930
community and our budget

5105
02:41:59,966 --> 02:42:00,700
issues that honestly we've

5106
02:42:00,700 --> 02:42:03,436
been facing now for the past 3

5107
02:42:03,436 --> 02:42:05,671
years. Staff is brought

5108
02:42:05,671 --> 02:42:07,671
forward different resolution

5109
02:42:09,442 --> 02:42:10,543
towards this problem that

5110
02:42:10,543 --> 02:42:13,543
addresses the flaws that have

5111
02:42:15,682 --> 02:42:16,316
made the prior propose actions

5112
02:42:16,316 --> 02:42:17,650
Today's pros actions that

5113
02:42:17,650 --> 02:42:18,784
additional piece of that

5114
02:42:18,784 --> 02:42:19,486
puzzle that we've been putting

5115
02:42:19,486 --> 02:42:21,888
together to help maintain our

5116
02:42:21,888 --> 02:42:22,588
services to the community. And

5117
02:42:22,588 --> 02:42:25,292
with that, I'll turn it over

5118
02:42:25,292 --> 02:42:27,294
to council. I think that's the

5119
02:42:27,294 --> 02:42:30,894
last light. I hope her That

5120
02:42:31,130 --> 02:42:34,130
was that was enough. Thank

5121
02:42:34,300 --> 02:42:35,100
you. So becoming Thank you for

5122
02:42:35,100 --> 02:42:35,868
that. They years of work on

5123
02:42:35,868 --> 02:42:37,670
this on this project. We have

5124
02:42:37,670 --> 02:42:38,471
certain excited from the

5125
02:42:38,471 --> 02:42:39,673
beginning.

5126
02:42:39,673 --> 02:42:40,674
>> We're not going to count

5127
02:42:40,674 --> 02:42:43,674
questions yet. Our rushing to

5128
02:42:45,245 --> 02:42:47,180
turn over to MISTER For trial

5129
02:42:47,180 --> 02:42:47,880
and who is our partner in this

5130
02:42:47,880 --> 02:42:50,117
proposed deal? All right. You

5131
02:42:50,117 --> 02:42:50,784
would you like to take 5 or 6

5132
02:42:50,784 --> 02:42:51,485
minutes and then talk about

5133
02:42:51,485 --> 02:42:54,485
your perspectives on on what

5134
02:43:02,628 --> 02:43:03,997
we're discussing here. There

5135
02:43:03,997 --> 02:43:07,597
it is. I should know. Thank

5136
02:43:09,403 --> 02:43:10,690
you. Mayor and council members

5137
02:43:10,690 --> 02:43:11,571
will be brief thank you for

5138
02:43:11,571 --> 02:43:14,571
taking the time on this.

5139
02:43:14,641 --> 02:43:15,408
>> And thanks very much, too,

5140
02:43:15,408 --> 02:43:17,244
to your staff for professional

5141
02:43:17,244 --> 02:43:19,644
staff for the extremely

5142
02:43:20,914 --> 02:43:21,748
focused, extremely detailed

5143
02:43:21,748 --> 02:43:25,348
work in the course of extended

5144
02:43:25,785 --> 02:43:26,486
period of time, there has been

5145
02:43:26,486 --> 02:43:28,522
yes is in that conversation.

5146
02:43:28,522 --> 02:43:31,580
There have been knows. But

5147
02:43:31,580 --> 02:43:33,930
there's always been logic and

5148
02:43:33,930 --> 02:43:36,630
it has been from my standpoint

5149
02:43:36,630 --> 02:43:36,697
to exemplary experience. Just

5150
02:43:36,697 --> 02:43:39,697
to just very, very, very

5151
02:43:41,502 --> 02:43:42,502
quickly. When my partners and

5152
02:43:42,502 --> 02:43:44,371
I first considered this

5153
02:43:44,371 --> 02:43:46,371
possibility, there were

5154
02:43:46,874 --> 02:43:47,674
reservations. The 5 23rd

5155
02:43:47,674 --> 02:43:50,674
Street building is in certain

5156
02:43:50,978 --> 02:43:51,645
respects and iconic building

5157
02:43:51,645 --> 02:43:53,645
required tremendous capital

5158
02:43:54,248 --> 02:43:56,216
investment on our part. We

5159
02:43:56,216 --> 02:43:59,153
have been very, very reluctant

5160
02:43:59,153 --> 02:43:59,853
to sell the assets that we

5161
02:43:59,853 --> 02:44:00,787
created in the city of Santa

5162
02:44:00,787 --> 02:44:03,187
Rosa. Almost invariably, we

5163
02:44:03,957 --> 02:44:05,250
have kept well, we've built,

5164
02:44:05,250 --> 02:44:05,825
but we will yourselves

5165
02:44:05,825 --> 02:44:07,927
ultimately around to the

5166
02:44:07,927 --> 02:44:08,896
notion that this does make

5167
02:44:08,896 --> 02:44:09,596
sense, make sense for the

5168
02:44:09,596 --> 02:44:13,133
city. It makes sense for for

5169
02:44:13,133 --> 02:44:14,670
ownership. We also had

5170
02:44:14,670 --> 02:44:14,768
concerns that my partners

5171
02:44:14,768 --> 02:44:17,768
expressed to me because I'm

5172
02:44:18,305 --> 02:44:21,305
responsible to a board other

5173
02:44:22,809 --> 02:44:23,477
jurisdictions have What can be

5174
02:44:23,477 --> 02:44:25,579
sure to become train wrecks

5175
02:44:25,579 --> 02:44:26,247
when it comes to evaluating

5176
02:44:26,247 --> 02:44:28,647
expanded the facilities or

5177
02:44:29,583 --> 02:44:30,284
relocations. As a company. We

5178
02:44:30,284 --> 02:44:32,253
did not want to be associated

5179
02:44:32,253 --> 02:44:34,653
with another train wreck.

5180
02:44:36,690 --> 02:44:39,393
There is no train wreck. My

5181
02:44:39,393 --> 02:44:40,260
partner's looked at the

5182
02:44:40,260 --> 02:44:40,728
numbers. I looked at the

5183
02:44:40,728 --> 02:44:43,464
analysis and I was absolutely

5184
02:44:43,464 --> 02:44:44,765
convinced of the precision.

5185
02:44:44,765 --> 02:44:46,634
The diligence, the extreme

5186
02:44:46,634 --> 02:44:48,669
detail of the analysis you've

5187
02:44:48,669 --> 02:44:51,605
now that's for the city to

5188
02:44:51,605 --> 02:44:52,839
decide that's for the public

5189
02:44:52,839 --> 02:44:55,709
to evaluate a counter party.

5190
02:44:55,709 --> 02:44:56,710
But I'm saying that that did

5191
02:44:56,710 --> 02:44:57,244
come into consideration as we

5192
02:44:57,244 --> 02:44:59,244
evaluated this this

5193
02:45:01,682 --> 02:45:04,820
transaction. The second issue

5194
02:45:05,753 --> 02:45:06,487
my partners. Ask Because they

5195
02:45:06,487 --> 02:45:10,870
know my history. They know I'm

5196
02:45:10,458 --> 02:45:11,726
of a certain age. Now they

5197
02:45:11,726 --> 02:45:13,694
also know that the first time

5198
02:45:13,694 --> 02:45:14,462
that I appeared before this

5199
02:45:14,462 --> 02:45:15,829
and before this council in

5200
02:45:15,829 --> 02:45:18,229
this exact council chambers

5201
02:45:19,433 --> 02:45:20,100
almost exactly 47 years ago.

5202
02:45:20,100 --> 02:45:22,103
And there have been 4 e

5203
02:45:22,103 --> 02:45:23,738
projects that my company has

5204
02:45:23,738 --> 02:45:24,438
done here. 12 of them in the

5205
02:45:24,438 --> 02:45:26,838
downtown core, all buildings

5206
02:45:27,375 --> 02:45:28,276
that we've built. We don't

5207
02:45:28,276 --> 02:45:30,676
entitle buildings. We don't

5208
02:45:30,710 --> 02:45:33,110
acquire land except but

5209
02:45:34,715 --> 02:45:35,416
executing the project, MR. Do

5210
02:45:35,416 --> 02:45:36,500
it made a comment about that?

5211
02:45:36,500 --> 02:45:39,500
Our record is very, very

5212
02:45:40,210 --> 02:45:40,654
clear. And that I think the 12

5213
02:45:40,654 --> 02:45:42,523
buildings we built in the

5214
02:45:42,523 --> 02:45:43,424
downtown core, which has been

5215
02:45:43,424 --> 02:45:45,727
a particular emphasis of ours

5216
02:45:45,727 --> 02:45:46,427
has included 5 housing

5217
02:45:46,427 --> 02:45:50,270
projects of news for all all

5218
02:45:50,865 --> 02:45:52,865
income ranges. Downtown

5219
02:45:54,802 --> 02:45:55,469
really, really matters. And

5220
02:45:55,469 --> 02:45:56,204
this is an opportunity from

5221
02:45:56,204 --> 02:45:58,573
our standpoint, apart from the

5222
02:45:58,573 --> 02:45:59,706
economics of the exchange to

5223
02:45:59,706 --> 02:46:00,408
do something special over and

5224
02:46:00,408 --> 02:46:03,408
above the numbers that could

5225
02:46:04,450 --> 02:46:04,946
have major impact on creating

5226
02:46:04,946 --> 02:46:06,546
the sense of residents sense

5227
02:46:06,546 --> 02:46:08,946
of attraction to sensitive

5228
02:46:12,530 --> 02:46:13,120
since of visit this. Let's

5229
02:46:13,120 --> 02:46:14,289
call it the can attract the

5230
02:46:14,289 --> 02:46:15,990
whole community to downtown

5231
02:46:15,990 --> 02:46:18,126
and make downtown thrive. Even

5232
02:46:18,126 --> 02:46:19,193
more. A good part of my career

5233
02:46:19,193 --> 02:46:20,827
has been focused on exactly

5234
02:46:20,827 --> 02:46:22,597
that point. As you as you

5235
02:46:22,597 --> 02:46:25,597
know, and this is an

5236
02:46:25,667 --> 02:46:26,835
opportunity to to help execute

5237
02:46:26,835 --> 02:46:28,803
that difficult cobi other

5238
02:46:28,803 --> 02:46:30,803
partners inevitably involved

5239
02:46:30,939 --> 02:46:31,539
sophisticated and it is a

5240
02:46:31,539 --> 02:46:32,140
collaboration in the in

5241
02:46:32,140 --> 02:46:33,842
between city. There was

5242
02:46:33,842 --> 02:46:34,542
comment about the development

5243
02:46:34,542 --> 02:46:35,243
agreement which is subject to

5244
02:46:35,243 --> 02:46:38,243
further review when the time

5245
02:46:39,313 --> 02:46:40,381
comes. I also want to stress

5246
02:46:40,381 --> 02:46:41,820
something else as we move

5247
02:46:41,820 --> 02:46:44,820
forward. Should you choose to

5248
02:46:44,419 --> 02:46:47,419
approve this exchange? On our

5249
02:46:47,522 --> 02:46:48,489
end contact with the

5250
02:46:48,489 --> 02:46:49,190
community, transparency with

5251
02:46:49,190 --> 02:46:52,190
the community outreach to the

5252
02:46:52,494 --> 02:46:53,728
community to hear what people

5253
02:46:53,728 --> 02:46:55,730
think. What matters. Clearly,

5254
02:46:55,730 --> 02:46:57,365
we have our own ideas at this

5255
02:46:57,365 --> 02:47:00,350
point but to shape that in a

5256
02:47:00,350 --> 02:47:00,668
way that the public likes that

5257
02:47:00,668 --> 02:47:01,569
serves, the needs of the

5258
02:47:01,569 --> 02:47:02,370
community will be fundamental.

5259
02:47:02,370 --> 02:47:06,974
And that has to be a very open

5260
02:47:06,974 --> 02:47:07,908
process. I want to thank the

5261
02:47:07,908 --> 02:47:08,810
staff again, I want to thank

5262
02:47:08,810 --> 02:47:10,612
you for the opportunity. It's

5263
02:47:10,612 --> 02:47:14,212
been a very long opera, very

5264
02:47:14,716 --> 02:47:16,117
long process. I would say look

5265
02:47:16,117 --> 02:47:18,517
forward to whatever decisions

5266
02:47:18,954 --> 02:47:20,222
you in the course of meeting

5267
02:47:20,222 --> 02:47:20,856
today. MR. Trial. Thank you

5268
02:47:20,856 --> 02:47:23,191
very much. Thank you for

5269
02:47:23,191 --> 02:47:24,459
taking time to speak.

5270
02:47:24,459 --> 02:47:25,590
>> All right. Now, as for get

5271
02:47:25,590 --> 02:47:27,459
back to council Rogers

5272
02:47:28,829 --> 02:47:29,830
annually to

5273
02:47:29,830 --> 02:47:31,699
>> Thank you. Hugh stepped

5274
02:47:31,699 --> 02:47:34,269
away. But I think one of my

5275
02:47:34,269 --> 02:47:34,969
questions was why would a

5276
02:47:34,969 --> 02:47:37,271
developer want a development

5277
02:47:37,271 --> 02:47:38,172
agreement? What is that? Mean,

5278
02:47:38,172 --> 02:47:42,372
or what is that insurer for a

5279
02:47:45,313 --> 02:47:46,480
developer?

5280
02:47:46,480 --> 02:47:46,747
>> We're going bring up Ethan

5281
02:47:46,747 --> 02:47:50,947
bk law who is working on this

5282
02:47:58,426 --> 02:47:59,895
for us.

5283
02:47:59,895 --> 02:48:00,462
>> We thank you. Councilmember

5284
02:48:00,462 --> 02:48:02,862
So when a development

5285
02:48:03,231 --> 02:48:03,932
agreement is, is it it's an

5286
02:48:03,932 --> 02:48:06,332
agreement provided for under

5287
02:48:08,704 --> 02:48:09,871
under state law that allows

5288
02:48:09,871 --> 02:48:10,472
developers to have more

5289
02:48:10,472 --> 02:48:12,872
certainty and what they

5290
02:48:14,900 --> 02:48:15,430
ultimately want to develop. So

5291
02:48:15,430 --> 02:48:17,450
what it does is gives the

5292
02:48:17,450 --> 02:48:18,180
developer what's called vested

5293
02:48:18,180 --> 02:48:20,182
rights and what it means is

5294
02:48:20,182 --> 02:48:22,582
generally the developer will

5295
02:48:23,850 --> 02:48:25,854
ebb the opportunity to to to

5296
02:48:25,854 --> 02:48:29,358
build and develop in the area

5297
02:48:29,358 --> 02:48:30,325
in a manner that's consistent

5298
02:48:30,325 --> 02:48:33,925
with the with the rules in

5299
02:48:34,620 --> 02:48:34,696
place today. So when you when

5300
02:48:34,696 --> 02:48:35,330
you give someone when you

5301
02:48:35,330 --> 02:48:37,499
enter into a development

5302
02:48:37,499 --> 02:48:38,666
agreement with the developer,

5303
02:48:38,666 --> 02:48:41,469
they get certainty that the

5304
02:48:41,469 --> 02:48:43,605
rules are going to change when

5305
02:48:43,605 --> 02:48:44,606
they ultimately come forward

5306
02:48:44,606 --> 02:48:45,373
for development. So if there's

5307
02:48:45,373 --> 02:48:47,773
a development agreement per

5308
02:48:49,878 --> 02:48:51,460
term of 10 years, then during

5309
02:48:51,460 --> 02:48:51,647
that 10 year know that they

5310
02:48:51,647 --> 02:48:54,830
are going to be able to

5311
02:48:54,830 --> 02:48:55,150
develop their property

5312
02:48:55,150 --> 02:48:57,550
consistent with those rules.

5313
02:48:58,988 --> 02:49:00,422
And then if it's a there's a

5314
02:49:00,422 --> 02:49:01,890
specific plan amendment or if

5315
02:49:01,890 --> 02:49:04,890
there's a zoning change or

5316
02:49:07,329 --> 02:49:07,929
something like that that won't

5317
02:49:07,929 --> 02:49:08,630
affect their ability to

5318
02:49:08,630 --> 02:49:10,165
develop. And so so that's the

5319
02:49:10,165 --> 02:49:12,234
reason why developer would

5320
02:49:12,234 --> 02:49:13,402
typically wanted development

5321
02:49:13,402 --> 02:49:15,170
agreement. Again, what we're

5322
02:49:15,170 --> 02:49:16,539
dealing with today's just know

5323
02:49:16,539 --> 02:49:17,139
that the property

5324
02:49:17,139 --> 02:49:19,139
transactions. So that's

5325
02:49:20,376 --> 02:49:21,944
something that will come

5326
02:49:21,944 --> 02:49:22,845
forward in the future. But

5327
02:49:22,845 --> 02:49:23,546
that's ultimately there is

5328
02:49:23,546 --> 02:49:26,546
help her looks for something

5329
02:49:30,386 --> 02:49:31,119
like Thank you. And in.

5330
02:49:31,119 --> 02:49:33,389
>> Why would there be a delay?

5331
02:49:33,389 --> 02:49:35,391
I know we're government. Why

5332
02:49:35,391 --> 02:49:38,930
are we giving enough time?

5333
02:49:38,930 --> 02:49:41,290
Because I feel like Christmas

5334
02:49:41,290 --> 02:49:42,631
is going to be here tomorrow.

5335
02:49:42,631 --> 02:49:44,967
So are is there enough time

5336
02:49:44,967 --> 02:49:47,967
with us being government for

5337
02:49:49,505 --> 02:49:51,905
this? Actually, too. Close

5338
02:49:54,760 --> 02:49:55,177
DECEMBER 31st.

5339
02:49:55,177 --> 02:49:57,213
>> And all honesty. I think

5340
02:49:57,213 --> 02:49:58,481
it's tough. It's going to be a

5341
02:49:58,481 --> 02:50:00,916
hard push on our end to get

5342
02:50:00,916 --> 02:50:01,617
all of those things done. Now,

5343
02:50:01,617 --> 02:50:04,153
if everything aligns, we have

5344
02:50:04,153 --> 02:50:06,289
enough time to do the work. We

5345
02:50:06,289 --> 02:50:09,289
don't have control of outside

5346
02:50:10,526 --> 02:50:11,260
things that come up and happen

5347
02:50:11,260 --> 02:50:14,860
in a perfect world. They would

5348
02:50:16,566 --> 02:50:17,700
easily closed by a van I'm

5349
02:50:17,700 --> 02:50:18,367
anticipating my schedule that

5350
02:50:18,367 --> 02:50:19,670
there could be issues that

5351
02:50:19,670 --> 02:50:22,338
come up that we have to deal

5352
02:50:22,338 --> 02:50:23,105
along the way. And so I think

5353
02:50:23,105 --> 02:50:27,905
it is going to be a hard push.

5354
02:50:30,112 --> 02:50:32,800
But this was a very detailed

5355
02:50:32,800 --> 02:50:33,983
important part of the

5356
02:50:33,983 --> 02:50:36,190
negotiation there were some

5357
02:50:36,190 --> 02:50:36,886
parts that that there had to

5358
02:50:36,886 --> 02:50:37,620
be some give and take during

5359
02:50:37,620 --> 02:50:38,287
the negotiation. And so that's

5360
02:50:38,287 --> 02:50:41,887
why staff agree to where we

5361
02:50:42,524 --> 02:50:44,524
are. Okay.

5362
02:50:46,296 --> 02:50:46,929
>> so of the departments that

5363
02:50:46,929 --> 02:50:48,929
potential potentially be

5364
02:50:50,332 --> 02:50:53,332
housed at 5.20. How many are

5365
02:50:55,505 --> 02:50:56,639
currently in least properties.

5366
02:50:56,639 --> 02:50:57,373
>> We do not have any lease

5367
02:50:57,373 --> 02:50:58,730
properties. We don't have

5368
02:50:58,730 --> 02:51:01,730
staff in any lease properties

5369
02:51:02,811 --> 02:51:04,811
at this moment.

5370
02:51:05,140 --> 02:51:06,182
>> In staffing right as we've

5371
02:51:06,182 --> 02:51:07,830
talked about is not had a

5372
02:51:07,830 --> 02:51:09,483
all-time high. Its actually.

5373
02:51:13,957 --> 02:51:15,591
>> At a low. With that and

5374
02:51:15,591 --> 02:51:17,393
hoping to increase in the

5375
02:51:17,393 --> 02:51:20,393
future will 5.20? I gotta get

5376
02:51:22,131 --> 02:51:25,131
used to saying that. Well,

5377
02:51:25,535 --> 02:51:27,935
5.20, be able to accommodate

5378
02:51:28,400 --> 02:51:28,605
an increase in staffing for

5379
02:51:28,605 --> 02:51:30,600
the departments that we

5380
02:51:30,600 --> 02:51:33,600
believing that will be housed.

5381
02:51:33,576 --> 02:51:35,576
And 5.20.

5382
02:51:36,479 --> 02:51:38,879
>> Have my Ashley anticipated

5383
02:51:41,250 --> 02:51:42,285
this question. So yes, we We

5384
02:51:42,285 --> 02:51:43,653
assuming a growth factor and

5385
02:51:43,653 --> 02:51:44,620
each floor for each

5386
02:51:44,620 --> 02:51:47,757
department, but just to be a

5387
02:51:47,757 --> 02:51:50,157
little more specific about

5388
02:51:50,392 --> 02:51:51,600
this, because I do know

5389
02:51:51,600 --> 02:51:52,395
Councilmember Okrepkie also

5390
02:51:52,395 --> 02:51:54,130
asked this last time at our

5391
02:51:54,130 --> 02:51:54,865
study session. So I wanted to

5392
02:51:54,865 --> 02:51:55,565
have the information available

5393
02:51:55,565 --> 02:51:59,165
for you in the public, which

5394
02:51:59,569 --> 02:52:00,269
is. The city hall campus right

5395
02:52:00,269 --> 02:52:01,505
now. So I'm not talking about

5396
02:52:01,505 --> 02:52:02,906
square footage of talking

5397
02:52:02,906 --> 02:52:05,306
about building square footage.

5398
02:52:05,408 --> 02:52:07,477
So not usable square footage.

5399
02:52:07,477 --> 02:52:09,412
Again, just a square foot each

5400
02:52:09,412 --> 02:52:10,280
building. If you add it all

5401
02:52:10,280 --> 02:52:12,280
together, we have 97,811

5402
02:52:14,584 --> 02:52:17,687
square feet. Of that. We can

5403
02:52:17,687 --> 02:52:20,870
only have people and 82,000

5404
02:52:22,426 --> 02:52:26,260
Square feet. Now of that, what

5405
02:52:27,564 --> 02:52:29,432
is actually usable is 16,

5406
02:52:29,432 --> 02:52:31,167
5,000 square feet. 65,000

5407
02:52:31,167 --> 02:52:31,902
square feet of 97,000 total

5408
02:52:31,902 --> 02:52:33,536
square feet because of the

5409
02:52:33,536 --> 02:52:35,936
conditions of our buildings

5410
02:52:36,172 --> 02:52:36,940
and the wasted space.

5411
02:52:36,940 --> 02:52:37,641
Honestly, we have a lot of

5412
02:52:37,641 --> 02:52:38,308
leases space in here. You can

5413
02:52:38,308 --> 02:52:41,908
kind of see in the council

5414
02:52:43,146 --> 02:52:46,146
chamber. The new building, the

5415
02:52:46,149 --> 02:52:48,150
usable space and and 5.20,

5416
02:52:48,150 --> 02:52:49,252
there is a 12,000 square-foot

5417
02:52:49,252 --> 02:52:51,652
4 Square-foot Basin, which I'm

5418
02:52:52,722 --> 02:52:53,857
not I'm not including is

5419
02:52:53,857 --> 02:52:56,257
75,000 Square feet. So we're

5420
02:52:56,993 --> 02:52:58,896
gaining over 15, almost 16,000

5421
02:52:58,896 --> 02:53:01,965
Square feet. And what we have

5422
02:53:01,965 --> 02:53:02,632
now and that leaves growth

5423
02:53:02,632 --> 02:53:03,967
space. We're also thinking

5424
02:53:03,967 --> 02:53:05,350
about moving things around a

5425
02:53:05,350 --> 02:53:05,736
little bit and MAY not need

5426
02:53:05,736 --> 02:53:06,369
everything in that building.

5427
02:53:06,369 --> 02:53:09,369
But that also allows us.

5428
02:53:09,606 --> 02:53:11,606
>> To move. Additional

5429
02:53:12,443 --> 02:53:13,877
employees. And so we MAY be

5430
02:53:13,877 --> 02:53:16,747
able to, for instance, move

5431
02:53:16,747 --> 02:53:18,882
some of tp w r or you know,

5432
02:53:18,882 --> 02:53:21,351
admin staff from across town

5433
02:53:21,351 --> 02:53:22,952
into this building. So it

5434
02:53:22,952 --> 02:53:26,552
allows the city a good amount

5435
02:53:27,858 --> 02:53:29,159
of flexibility. In my last

5436
02:53:29,159 --> 02:53:33,359
question is there is a lot of

5437
02:53:34,198 --> 02:53:35,599
history that is housed at 5

5438
02:53:35,599 --> 02:53:36,299
20. So have we determined if

5439
02:53:36,299 --> 02:53:39,899
that history is going to stay

5440
02:53:40,337 --> 02:53:43,937
or is it? Leaving the photos?

5441
02:53:44,375 --> 02:53:45,509
Yes, yes, they are stain

5442
02:53:45,509 --> 02:53:46,176
according to MR. Futrell. They

5443
02:53:46,176 --> 02:53:49,280
go with the building and we

5444
02:53:49,280 --> 02:53:51,514
get to keep those. There's a a

5445
02:53:51,514 --> 02:53:52,516
wall of history of photos and

5446
02:53:52,516 --> 02:53:54,218
the new building that shows

5447
02:53:54,218 --> 02:53:54,952
all of the work they did. It

5448
02:53:54,952 --> 02:53:58,155
starts when it was the 18 team

5449
02:53:58,155 --> 02:53:59,156
building and it shows the old

5450
02:53:59,156 --> 02:54:00,324
like I know you call them

5451
02:54:00,324 --> 02:54:00,990
where you push the buttons and

5452
02:54:00,990 --> 02:54:03,270
picked up the phone or, you

5453
02:54:03,270 --> 02:54:05,290
know, whatever, whatever those

5454
02:54:05,290 --> 02:54:05,729
are called.

5455
02:54:05,729 --> 02:54:07,264
>> It shows the that era and

5456
02:54:07,264 --> 02:54:07,965
then it shows when they bought

5457
02:54:07,965 --> 02:54:08,866
the building and redeveloped

5458
02:54:08,866 --> 02:54:12,403
it where they have these, they

5459
02:54:12,403 --> 02:54:15,339
even have large Sabah leads

5460
02:54:15,339 --> 02:54:16,473
and and that he lcd office

5461
02:54:16,473 --> 02:54:17,140
from these massive saw

5462
02:54:17,140 --> 02:54:20,740
believes they had to use to

5463
02:54:21,110 --> 02:54:24,110
cut into the building and

5464
02:54:24,810 --> 02:54:24,749
create windows months and Mr

5465
02:54:24,749 --> 02:54:26,830
for child did fantastic job

5466
02:54:26,830 --> 02:54:26,750
and lot of work to redevelop

5467
02:54:26,750 --> 02:54:29,750
that for this part benefit.

5468
02:54:30,187 --> 02:54:32,187
Now.

5469
02:54:34,659 --> 02:54:37,659
>> Thank you. Spend Thank you,

5470
02:54:38,262 --> 02:54:38,963
Well, first of all, thank you

5471
02:54:38,963 --> 02:54:41,699
for not only what you brought

5472
02:54:41,699 --> 02:54:42,532
forward today, but for working

5473
02:54:42,532 --> 02:54:43,200
on this for years and years.

5474
02:54:43,200 --> 02:54:46,800
I'm so sorry, but thank you

5475
02:54:47,738 --> 02:54:50,473
for all that. I just have 2

5476
02:54:50,473 --> 02:54:51,142
quick I wanted to ask just a

5477
02:54:51,142 --> 02:54:52,543
little bit. Just really to

5478
02:54:52,543 --> 02:54:53,611
clarify for the public is a

5479
02:54:53,611 --> 02:54:56,611
beginning. A lot of questions

5480
02:54:56,848 --> 02:54:57,682
about the development part. It

5481
02:54:57,682 --> 02:55:00,518
does say in the staff report

5482
02:55:00,518 --> 02:55:01,919
that that's going to be done.

5483
02:55:01,919 --> 02:55:02,619
Seems like it's saying at the

5484
02:55:02,619 --> 02:55:04,655
close of escrow or before the

5485
02:55:04,655 --> 02:55:05,389
close of escrow, if you could

5486
02:55:05,389 --> 02:55:06,570
talk about that the

5487
02:55:06,570 --> 02:55:08,570
development agreement. Yes,

5488
02:55:08,626 --> 02:55:09,694
that will happen before for

5489
02:55:09,694 --> 02:55:12,930
the close of escrow. So we

5490
02:55:12,930 --> 02:55:13,698
will have 3 public meetings,

5491
02:55:13,698 --> 02:55:14,365
one at Planning Commission and

5492
02:55:14,365 --> 02:55:17,365
2 at City Council where the

5493
02:55:18,769 --> 02:55:21,169
public will have plenty

5494
02:55:21,706 --> 02:55:23,140
chances to have input. The

5495
02:55:23,140 --> 02:55:23,975
planning commission will have

5496
02:55:23,975 --> 02:55:24,642
and put the city council have

5497
02:55:24,642 --> 02:55:27,642
and put before anything is

5498
02:55:27,745 --> 02:55:28,446
adopted. All right. Great.

5499
02:55:28,446 --> 02:55:30,581
Thank you. And then the only

5500
02:55:30,581 --> 02:55:31,515
other thing that would I think

5501
02:55:31,515 --> 02:55:35,115
we've been getting a lot input

5502
02:55:35,920 --> 02:55:36,621
on is the creek. Just wanted

5503
02:55:36,621 --> 02:55:37,322
to ask Doctor Hennessy if you

5504
02:55:37,322 --> 02:55:37,955
talk a little bit more about

5505
02:55:37,955 --> 02:55:40,955
what that's going to look

5506
02:55:43,600 --> 02:55:45,960
like. We don't frankly, based

5507
02:55:45,960 --> 02:55:46,898
on what we're talking about

5508
02:55:46,898 --> 02:55:48,366
today and what we know this

5509
02:55:48,366 --> 02:55:49,100
1.0, 6, one acres that we

5510
02:55:49,100 --> 02:55:51,340
talked about will look exactly

5511
02:55:51,340 --> 02:55:52,470
like it does today.

5512
02:55:52,470 --> 02:55:53,438
>> All options remain on the

5513
02:55:53,438 --> 02:55:55,720
table to us. Nothing has been

5514
02:55:55,720 --> 02:55:55,907
decided. All we've done a

5515
02:55:55,907 --> 02:55:56,641
separate that land out from

5516
02:55:56,641 --> 02:56:00,241
this exchange so that the city

5517
02:56:01,212 --> 02:56:02,713
keeps it. All options are at

5518
02:56:02,713 --> 02:56:03,281
our disposal. Okay. All right.

5519
02:56:03,281 --> 02:56:04,616
So that that's to be

5520
02:56:04,616 --> 02:56:07,160
determined then. Okay. All

5521
02:56:07,452 --> 02:56:10,452
right. Great. Thank you. Thank

5522
02:56:12,157 --> 02:56:13,900
you, MISTER. Donald. Thank

5523
02:56:13,900 --> 02:56:14,792
you, Mayor, thank you for the

5524
02:56:14,792 --> 02:56:16,928
presentation. I want say up

5525
02:56:16,928 --> 02:56:17,795
front, I'm in full support at

5526
02:56:17,795 --> 02:56:19,630
this exchange.

5527
02:56:19,630 --> 02:56:21,899
>> I think it's critical for a

5528
02:56:21,899 --> 02:56:24,340
lot of different reasons that

5529
02:56:24,340 --> 02:56:24,635
we're moving. And and mostly

5530
02:56:24,635 --> 02:56:25,570
it's a liability of the

5531
02:56:25,570 --> 02:56:26,270
deferred maintenance that we

5532
02:56:26,270 --> 02:56:29,270
have on the current buildings

5533
02:56:29,273 --> 02:56:30,108
that we have the condition of

5534
02:56:30,108 --> 02:56:32,109
our buildings and how that

5535
02:56:32,109 --> 02:56:34,509
results in taxpayer money

5536
02:56:35,413 --> 02:56:36,448
going to basically throw good

5537
02:56:36,448 --> 02:56:37,482
money after some things, bad

5538
02:56:37,482 --> 02:56:41,820
things, Mr for child taking on

5539
02:56:41,419 --> 02:56:43,754
the bad. I just want to make

5540
02:56:43,754 --> 02:56:44,589
sure that when they questions

5541
02:56:44,589 --> 02:56:45,256
come across it's just for

5542
02:56:45,256 --> 02:56:45,957
clarification purposes, not

5543
02:56:45,957 --> 02:56:49,461
because I'm not in support of

5544
02:56:49,461 --> 02:56:51,296
this. When was the last time

5545
02:56:51,296 --> 02:56:52,130
we had a full assessment done

5546
02:56:52,130 --> 02:56:53,965
on the property because the

5547
02:56:53,965 --> 02:56:55,634
site about 100 million dollars

5548
02:56:55,634 --> 02:56:57,235
of of maintenance. But what

5549
02:56:57,235 --> 02:57:01,239
year was that that we had that

5550
02:57:01,239 --> 02:57:01,839
study done the last?

5551
02:57:01,839 --> 02:57:03,374
>> Facilities, complete

5552
02:57:03,374 --> 02:57:05,774
facilities assessment was done

5553
02:57:06,211 --> 02:57:08,460
in 2016. We have escalated

5554
02:57:08,460 --> 02:57:08,747
those What we have added to

5555
02:57:08,747 --> 02:57:09,414
that in pieces. But the last

5556
02:57:09,414 --> 02:57:11,414
complete assessment was 10

5557
02:57:12,450 --> 02:57:14,786
years ago. Okay. So with that

5558
02:57:14,786 --> 02:57:17,355
said, if you haven't done that

5559
02:57:17,355 --> 02:57:18,523
full assessment knowing about

5560
02:57:18,523 --> 02:57:20,425
how much the cost of

5561
02:57:20,425 --> 02:57:21,559
construction has increased

5562
02:57:21,559 --> 02:57:23,959
since 2016, what would your

5563
02:57:23,996 --> 02:57:24,829
guess be if that was more of a

5564
02:57:24,829 --> 02:57:26,829
realistic number?

5565
02:57:26,932 --> 02:57:28,199
>> Of the liability that we

5566
02:57:28,199 --> 02:57:28,800
currently have we escalator

5567
02:57:28,800 --> 02:57:29,501
that number 200 million

5568
02:57:29,501 --> 02:57:31,169
dollars and put the plus sign

5569
02:57:31,169 --> 02:57:33,700
after it because I have no

5570
02:57:33,700 --> 02:57:34,773
idea. It's definitely more

5571
02:57:34,773 --> 02:57:35,473
than 100 million dollars.

5572
02:57:35,473 --> 02:57:36,241
Whether that's, you know, as

5573
02:57:36,241 --> 02:57:39,478
we get into this and it

5574
02:57:39,478 --> 02:57:41,478
uncovered different things.

5575
02:57:42,614 --> 02:57:43,915
Who knows. But I am certain

5576
02:57:43,915 --> 02:57:45,150
that we don't know everything

5577
02:57:45,150 --> 02:57:45,984
we would need to fix today

5578
02:57:45,984 --> 02:57:47,351
until we started fixing it.

5579
02:57:47,351 --> 02:57:50,322
And then we would find out

5580
02:57:50,322 --> 02:57:52,224
more like a true remodel.

5581
02:57:52,224 --> 02:57:53,225
Okay. So that that's I think

5582
02:57:53,225 --> 02:57:55,625
something that's critical for

5583
02:57:56,195 --> 02:57:57,395
us to to also know is that we

5584
02:57:57,395 --> 02:57:58,970
actually don't know the

5585
02:57:58,970 --> 02:57:59,965
potential the cost of what it

5586
02:57:59,965 --> 02:58:00,631
would even costs for us to fix

5587
02:58:00,631 --> 02:58:03,310
this current liability that

5588
02:58:03,168 --> 02:58:05,738
were sitting on the numbers

5589
02:58:05,738 --> 02:58:06,405
that we shared earlier. Our

5590
02:58:06,405 --> 02:58:07,106
best estimates best without

5591
02:58:07,106 --> 02:58:09,808
starting to tear the building

5592
02:58:09,808 --> 02:58:12,578
to part of victim. Okay. And

5593
02:58:12,578 --> 02:58:13,278
so I I think that that's

5594
02:58:13,278 --> 02:58:14,646
something else you mentioned

5595
02:58:14,646 --> 02:58:16,582
that I hadn't heard before was

5596
02:58:16,582 --> 02:58:17,283
the ada.

5597
02:58:17,283 --> 02:58:17,983
>> That hasn't been completed

5598
02:58:17,983 --> 02:58:19,718
in these buildings. You have

5599
02:58:19,718 --> 02:58:22,588
any idea about how much that

5600
02:58:22,588 --> 02:58:23,955
would That assessment was done

5601
02:58:23,955 --> 02:58:25,524
at the same time across the

5602
02:58:25,524 --> 02:58:26,692
full campus. That number was

5603
02:58:26,692 --> 02:58:28,593
on the order at 8 million

5604
02:58:28,593 --> 02:58:29,661
dollars. But that number is 10

5605
02:58:29,661 --> 02:58:30,429
years old. And frankly, so

5606
02:58:30,429 --> 02:58:31,129
this all these buildings were

5607
02:58:31,129 --> 02:58:31,664
built before the adoption of

5608
02:58:31,664 --> 02:58:33,664
the Americans with

5609
02:58:34,199 --> 02:58:35,100
Disabilities Act.

5610
02:58:35,100 --> 02:58:38,170
>> I don't even know how we

5611
02:58:38,170 --> 02:58:38,704
would fix some of the issues

5612
02:58:38,704 --> 02:58:39,405
like, like complete

5613
02:58:39,405 --> 02:58:41,805
reconstruction to make these

5614
02:58:41,940 --> 02:58:44,844
some of these ramps great

5615
02:58:44,844 --> 02:58:45,410
accessible. It would be major

5616
02:58:45,410 --> 02:58:46,911
construction project.

5617
02:58:46,911 --> 02:58:49,915
>> And on the new property, do

5618
02:58:49,915 --> 02:58:51,490
we have any of concerns?

5619
02:58:51,490 --> 02:58:53,449
>> Everything has been updated

5620
02:58:53,786 --> 02:58:54,519
since the adoption of the ada

5621
02:58:54,519 --> 02:58:56,550
approved by city staff through

5622
02:58:56,550 --> 02:58:57,122
that building permit process.

5623
02:58:57,122 --> 02:58:57,756
And so we have no concerns

5624
02:58:57,756 --> 02:58:59,756
really accessible. That's

5625
02:59:01,494 --> 02:59:02,695
right. Thank you.

5626
02:59:02,695 --> 02:59:04,130
>> And so so I am trying to

5627
02:59:04,130 --> 02:59:07,130
make sure that the community

5628
02:59:07,233 --> 02:59:08,801
and all of us know that really

5629
02:59:08,801 --> 02:59:09,535
we have to do something is

5630
02:59:09,535 --> 02:59:12,535
critical at this point because

5631
02:59:13,606 --> 02:59:16,542
of the liability. Scott, you

5632
02:59:16,542 --> 02:59:17,275
mentioned the 4.5 5 million

5633
02:59:17,275 --> 02:59:17,944
dollars that we've already set

5634
02:59:17,944 --> 02:59:20,944
aside in reserves. Was that

5635
02:59:21,614 --> 02:59:22,281
the money that we were going

5636
02:59:22,281 --> 02:59:23,649
to appropriate for starting

5637
02:59:23,649 --> 02:59:27,249
some of the critical needs of

5638
02:59:28,254 --> 02:59:28,954
the campus is right now. Yes,

5639
02:59:28,954 --> 02:59:31,954
thank you for your question.

5640
02:59:32,910 --> 02:59:34,910
COUNCILMAN Member Donald.

5641
02:59:34,193 --> 02:59:35,494
>> Specifically as part of the

5642
02:59:35,494 --> 02:59:37,894
adopted for this current

5643
02:59:38,464 --> 02:59:39,164
fiscal year. The 2026 27

5644
02:59:39,164 --> 02:59:41,367
budgeted. We have been having

5645
02:59:41,367 --> 02:59:43,767
conversations about. Our lack

5646
02:59:45,204 --> 02:59:45,905
of facility funding and now we

5647
02:59:45,905 --> 02:59:46,906
have breaking point and many

5648
02:59:46,906 --> 02:59:49,906
of our facilities. And at

5649
02:59:50,900 --> 02:59:51,477
Point Council's specifically

5650
02:59:51,477 --> 02:59:52,178
directed to assign 4.5 million

5651
02:59:52,178 --> 02:59:54,578
dollars towards this function

5652
02:59:55,682 --> 02:59:57,349
of the city. So so those those

5653
02:59:57,349 --> 02:59:58,684
are those are funds that are

5654
02:59:58,684 --> 02:59:59,419
essentially already accounted

5655
02:59:59,419 --> 03:00:00,860
for as a way to think about it

5656
03:00:00,860 --> 03:00:02,486
from a budgeting accounting

5657
03:00:03,222 --> 03:00:05,222
perspective.

5658
03:00:07,226 --> 03:00:08,428
>> And I see the.

5659
03:00:08,428 --> 03:00:10,529
>> The more like rip back. If

5660
03:00:10,529 --> 03:00:12,365
we're not able to close.

5661
03:00:12,365 --> 03:00:14,500
>> Escrow it says if you'll

5662
03:00:14,500 --> 03:00:15,401
state I got to tell you, it

5663
03:00:15,401 --> 03:00:17,169
feels a little steep on the

5664
03:00:17,169 --> 03:00:18,271
potential of a half a million

5665
03:00:18,271 --> 03:00:20,740
dollars. But when I look at

5666
03:00:20,740 --> 03:00:23,740
this pace, it you're talking

5667
03:00:24,510 --> 03:00:25,712
about. And these back at it

5668
03:00:25,712 --> 03:00:26,746
feels that that's an

5669
03:00:26,746 --> 03:00:27,580
appropriate amount. Keeps a

5670
03:00:27,580 --> 03:00:28,448
fire underneath us and makes

5671
03:00:28,448 --> 03:00:30,549
do our job make sure that

5672
03:00:30,549 --> 03:00:32,185
we're getting these public

5673
03:00:32,185 --> 03:00:35,185
meetings So so I appreciate

5674
03:00:35,388 --> 03:00:38,388
the negotiation. Part of it.

5675
03:00:38,491 --> 03:00:40,259
And and I'm not thrilled about

5676
03:00:40,259 --> 03:00:43,290
that and or that figure. But I

5677
03:00:43,290 --> 03:00:44,364
understand the reason for it.

5678
03:00:44,364 --> 03:00:45,331
So I will just say that not

5679
03:00:45,331 --> 03:00:48,331
happy about that part, but

5680
03:00:49,469 --> 03:00:52,205
other than that great job and

5681
03:00:52,205 --> 03:00:52,906
then finally, Joe, you spoke

5682
03:00:52,906 --> 03:00:53,573
about it in the presentation.

5683
03:00:53,573 --> 03:00:56,209
I know it's something that

5684
03:00:56,209 --> 03:00:56,943
we've talked about several

5685
03:00:56,943 --> 03:00:58,311
times is moving forward. And I

5686
03:00:58,311 --> 03:01:00,790
think this is in a critical

5687
03:01:00,790 --> 03:01:02,182
component for the community to

5688
03:01:02,182 --> 03:01:05,510
know is what policies we going

5689
03:01:05,510 --> 03:01:05,986
to put in place to ensure that

5690
03:01:05,986 --> 03:01:06,686
there's deferred maintenance

5691
03:01:06,686 --> 03:01:08,153
funds appropriated every year

5692
03:01:08,153 --> 03:01:11,753
from the city of Santa Rosa.

5693
03:01:12,580 --> 03:01:13,590
So we don't have 6 decades

5694
03:01:13,590 --> 03:01:13,693
neglecting our buildings. And

5695
03:01:13,693 --> 03:01:16,693
when will that be brought

5696
03:01:18,765 --> 03:01:19,999
forward to us?

5697
03:01:19,999 --> 03:01:21,868
>> You have a chief financial

5698
03:01:21,868 --> 03:01:23,303
officer and a director of

5699
03:01:23,303 --> 03:01:24,400
transportation public works

5700
03:01:24,400 --> 03:01:24,637
who want nothing more than to

5701
03:01:24,637 --> 03:01:26,637
decrease the maintenance

5702
03:01:27,841 --> 03:01:29,420
liability of the city. So

5703
03:01:29,420 --> 03:01:31,211
should this happen. You would

5704
03:01:31,211 --> 03:01:31,911
see this as part of next

5705
03:01:31,911 --> 03:01:34,911
year's budget. Scott, my way

5706
03:01:35,615 --> 03:01:36,283
back highlighting this issue

5707
03:01:36,283 --> 03:01:36,983
continuing a ban women will

5708
03:01:36,983 --> 03:01:37,716
probably asking for something

5709
03:01:37,716 --> 03:01:40,716
else to decrease liability and

5710
03:01:41,421 --> 03:01:43,957
some arena. And I know it's

5711
03:01:43,957 --> 03:01:44,658
not popular to set money aside

5712
03:01:44,658 --> 03:01:45,292
for deferred maintenance, but

5713
03:01:45,292 --> 03:01:46,592
we just don't want to put

5714
03:01:46,592 --> 03:01:47,127
ourselves in this position

5715
03:01:47,127 --> 03:01:47,827
again.

5716
03:01:47,827 --> 03:01:50,827
>> I think that the community

5717
03:01:51,698 --> 03:01:53,700
deserves us to appropriate

5718
03:01:53,700 --> 03:01:55,469
money and their money really

5719
03:01:55,469 --> 03:01:57,236
so that we can take measures

5720
03:01:57,236 --> 03:01:59,573
and set aside money moves

5721
03:01:59,573 --> 03:02:02,109
forward. I know we spoke about

5722
03:02:02,109 --> 03:02:02,976
this specifically during the

5723
03:02:02,976 --> 03:02:04,976
Calpers conversations. Scott

5724
03:02:06,146 --> 03:02:06,880
has that liability goes away

5725
03:02:06,880 --> 03:02:08,215
that potentially in the future

5726
03:02:08,215 --> 03:02:10,417
we would be able to capture

5727
03:02:10,417 --> 03:02:12,151
that. One of my clarifying

5728
03:02:12,151 --> 03:02:13,654
questions around this is the

5729
03:02:13,654 --> 03:02:15,789
cip funds that we set aside

5730
03:02:15,789 --> 03:02:16,824
every single year to do

5731
03:02:16,824 --> 03:02:18,824
deferred maintenance. Dan,

5732
03:02:19,793 --> 03:02:20,660
does a portion of that go to

5733
03:02:20,660 --> 03:02:21,728
our buildings or is that

5734
03:02:21,728 --> 03:02:23,930
strictly reserved for other

5735
03:02:23,930 --> 03:02:26,834
parts of cip? A very small

5736
03:02:26,834 --> 03:02:29,350
portion of The 1.2 million

5737
03:02:29,350 --> 03:02:30,670
dollars from the general fund

5738
03:02:30,670 --> 03:02:31,871
that goes into the ada

5739
03:02:31,871 --> 03:02:34,271
improvements account that can

5740
03:02:34,975 --> 03:02:36,109
be used on city facilities,

5741
03:02:36,109 --> 03:02:37,945
not just for buildings but for

5742
03:02:37,945 --> 03:02:38,912
all city facilities, which

5743
03:02:38,912 --> 03:02:39,579
includes.

5744
03:02:39,579 --> 03:02:40,247
>> Curb ramps and parks and

5745
03:02:40,247 --> 03:02:42,949
other things. So that gets

5746
03:02:42,949 --> 03:02:44,150
stretched thin very quickly.

5747
03:02:44,150 --> 03:02:45,919
That is the only eligible

5748
03:02:45,919 --> 03:02:47,955
funding source that I have

5749
03:02:47,955 --> 03:02:48,889
through Cip to improve city

5750
03:02:48,889 --> 03:02:50,889
buildings. That's very

5751
03:02:51,391 --> 03:02:52,920
helpful. I think for us to

5752
03:02:52,920 --> 03:02:55,329
know from council as well as

5753
03:02:55,329 --> 03:02:55,995
the community to know that

5754
03:02:55,995 --> 03:02:57,464
deferred maintenance funds

5755
03:02:57,464 --> 03:02:58,299
have to come out of general

5756
03:02:58,299 --> 03:02:58,999
fund and that we have to

5757
03:02:58,999 --> 03:03:01,234
appropriate that because you

5758
03:03:01,234 --> 03:03:01,969
cannot just be earmarked as a

5759
03:03:01,969 --> 03:03:03,969
cip.

5760
03:03:04,805 --> 03:03:05,872
>> Funded projects. So I

5761
03:03:05,872 --> 03:03:07,775
appreciate that. And I want to

5762
03:03:07,775 --> 03:03:08,576
commend all of you for

5763
03:03:08,576 --> 03:03:09,275
bringing information forward

5764
03:03:09,275 --> 03:03:12,275
so that it's an understanding

5765
03:03:12,546 --> 03:03:16,283
that it's not just a swap of

5766
03:03:16,283 --> 03:03:18,352
property, but that this is a

5767
03:03:18,352 --> 03:03:20,821
fiscal decision really for the

5768
03:03:20,821 --> 03:03:23,821
council to make for community

5769
03:03:24,625 --> 03:03:26,694
and and to me, this makes

5770
03:03:26,694 --> 03:03:27,594
financial sense for us. I know

5771
03:03:27,594 --> 03:03:29,363
the 6 million dollars a year

5772
03:03:29,363 --> 03:03:30,970
that we need to appropriate to

5773
03:03:30,970 --> 03:03:33,334
go down to 1 Million. That's a

5774
03:03:33,334 --> 03:03:34,535
pretty easy math equation. The

5775
03:03:34,535 --> 03:03:35,503
savings that we won't be

5776
03:03:35,503 --> 03:03:36,203
needing to appropriate from

5777
03:03:36,203 --> 03:03:38,872
the general friend looking at

5778
03:03:38,872 --> 03:03:41,742
our deficit. So thank you for

5779
03:03:41,742 --> 03:03:42,809
laying it out the way that you

5780
03:03:42,809 --> 03:03:43,677
did. I don't really have any

5781
03:03:43,677 --> 03:03:45,646
more questions other than I'm

5782
03:03:45,646 --> 03:03:46,614
I'm hopeful that you'll get

5783
03:03:46,614 --> 03:03:47,313
the direction that you need

5784
03:03:47,313 --> 03:03:49,283
from council today and not be

5785
03:03:49,283 --> 03:03:52,419
in favor of it. Thank you.

5786
03:03:52,419 --> 03:03:53,420
Anything else from council?

5787
03:03:53,420 --> 03:03:54,455
All right. Members of the

5788
03:03:54,455 --> 03:03:57,391
public, this is your chance.

5789
03:03:57,391 --> 03:03:58,326
We'll start with people in

5790
03:03:58,326 --> 03:04:00,227
council chambers.

5791
03:04:00,227 --> 03:04:00,928
>> Beginning with looks like

5792
03:04:00,928 --> 03:04:03,328
Abby Arnold, Richard Carlisle

5793
03:04:05,399 --> 03:04:06,300
and Derek Stephen.

5794
03:04:06,300 --> 03:04:08,700
>> There's been ongoing might

5795
03:04:09,136 --> 03:04:09,870
not want to have listed here.

5796
03:04:09,870 --> 03:04:12,870
Duane Shedding some stuff. You

5797
03:04:14,342 --> 03:04:16,310
folks beat you to punch.

5798
03:04:16,310 --> 03:04:17,578
Richard and Eric Abbe, go

5799
03:04:17,578 --> 03:04:19,578
ahead.

5800
03:04:20,681 --> 03:04:21,949
>> Good Evening Council and

5801
03:04:21,949 --> 03:04:24,349
mayor, I'm representing Santa

5802
03:04:24,652 --> 03:04:25,819
Rosa Yimby tonight. An all

5803
03:04:25,819 --> 03:04:28,219
volunteer organization of over

5804
03:04:28,656 --> 03:04:30,925
500 Santa Rosa residents. We

5805
03:04:30,925 --> 03:04:32,994
are very pleased to support

5806
03:04:32,994 --> 03:04:34,929
the proposed exchange

5807
03:04:34,929 --> 03:04:36,164
agreement, which we think if

5808
03:04:36,164 --> 03:04:39,320
done right will quickly bring

5809
03:04:39,320 --> 03:04:41,969
more people downtown, save a

5810
03:04:41,969 --> 03:04:43,938
lot of money for the city and

5811
03:04:43,938 --> 03:04:46,338
uncover Santa Rosa Creek,

5812
03:04:46,941 --> 03:04:48,142
which is long hidden under

5813
03:04:48,142 --> 03:04:48,809
this building. We some

5814
03:04:48,809 --> 03:04:50,809
recommendations for the

5815
03:04:52,213 --> 03:04:52,847
development agreement, but in

5816
03:04:52,847 --> 03:04:55,160
the interest of time and

5817
03:04:55,160 --> 03:04:56,951
moving ahead with this

5818
03:04:56,951 --> 03:04:57,652
tonight, I refer you to our

5819
03:04:57,652 --> 03:05:00,540
written comments and we will

5820
03:05:00,540 --> 03:05:01,890
be there at your community

5821
03:05:01,890 --> 03:05:04,890
meetings. Thank you so much.

5822
03:05:04,758 --> 03:05:05,727
And please approve it.

5823
03:05:05,727 --> 03:05:06,461
>> Thank you. MISS Arnold.

5824
03:05:06,461 --> 03:05:10,610
Thank you. Center is a would

5825
03:05:13,168 --> 03:05:13,601
say it's Richard and Derek.

5826
03:05:13,601 --> 03:05:14,234
>> The mayor.

5827
03:05:14,234 --> 03:05:16,634
>> Members of the Richard

5828
03:05:17,505 --> 03:05:19,905
Carlisle. I'm retired civil

5829
03:05:21,743 --> 03:05:23,110
engineer and urban planner.

5830
03:05:23,110 --> 03:05:26,710
I'm very much favor of this

5831
03:05:26,948 --> 03:05:29,717
exchange. I was a young

5832
03:05:29,717 --> 03:05:32,117
engineer 50 some years ago.

5833
03:05:32,820 --> 03:05:33,954
Doing working for the

5834
03:05:33,954 --> 03:05:35,957
engineer. That was the urban

5835
03:05:35,957 --> 03:05:39,557
renewal engineer. So I did a

5836
03:05:42,330 --> 03:05:42,997
lot of this.

5837
03:05:42,997 --> 03:05:45,397
>> I connected designed the

5838
03:05:47,102 --> 03:05:48,636
street. The connected.

5839
03:05:48,636 --> 03:05:51,360
Mendocino Avenue was Santa

5840
03:05:52,941 --> 03:05:53,942
right through the square. And

5841
03:05:53,942 --> 03:05:54,643
50 years later, I got to

5842
03:05:54,643 --> 03:05:57,612
design debris, put the square

5843
03:05:57,612 --> 03:05:58,213
back together again. And the

5844
03:05:58,213 --> 03:06:00,613
same thing with Prince

5845
03:06:00,782 --> 03:06:03,782
Memorial Greenway. I was able

5846
03:06:03,885 --> 03:06:06,885
to do the redesigned that.

5847
03:06:09,690 --> 03:06:10,292
This is your front porch. You

5848
03:06:10,292 --> 03:06:13,292
have to have good urban

5849
03:06:15,497 --> 03:06:18,433
design. This is another chance

5850
03:06:18,433 --> 03:06:19,167
to make it right. Well,

5851
03:06:19,167 --> 03:06:22,767
there's opening it up with the

5852
03:06:25,139 --> 03:06:27,539
creeks. Obviously some housing

5853
03:06:29,430 --> 03:06:32,470
can be put on this. And I'm

5854
03:06:32,470 --> 03:06:32,714
glad that we got a local

5855
03:06:32,714 --> 03:06:33,781
developer. Hugh Futrell who

5856
03:06:33,781 --> 03:06:34,415
has a track record. He

5857
03:06:34,415 --> 03:06:36,815
understands what the city

5858
03:06:37,552 --> 03:06:38,720
wants, what the city needs.

5859
03:06:38,720 --> 03:06:39,488
But remember, this is your

5860
03:06:39,488 --> 03:06:40,122
front porch. You can put all

5861
03:06:40,122 --> 03:06:43,122
the bedrooms on the front

5862
03:06:45,460 --> 03:06:48,460
porch. I think it's really

5863
03:06:50,732 --> 03:06:52,267
important. That you some

5864
03:06:52,267 --> 03:06:55,267
public input. You get good

5865
03:06:57,272 --> 03:06:59,874
urban in on this. On the map.

5866
03:06:59,874 --> 03:07:00,976
Thank you.

5867
03:07:00,976 --> 03:07:03,976
>> MR. Cole, thank you very

5868
03:07:04,212 --> 03:07:06,212
much.

5869
03:07:07,416 --> 03:07:10,520
>> Council, thank you so much

5870
03:07:10,520 --> 03:07:11,720
for the opportunity to speak.

5871
03:07:11,720 --> 03:07:12,353
Derek Stephen, Real chore and

5872
03:07:12,353 --> 03:07:15,353
resident long time in the

5873
03:07:15,858 --> 03:07:17,926
Jaycee neighborhood. Very much

5874
03:07:17,926 --> 03:07:19,928
would like to say thank you to

5875
03:07:19,928 --> 03:07:22,230
staff and 2 consultants for

5876
03:07:22,230 --> 03:07:24,132
this report. It's a very

5877
03:07:24,132 --> 03:07:24,867
meaningful report to have at

5878
03:07:24,867 --> 03:07:28,360
this juncture of time in our

5879
03:07:28,360 --> 03:07:31,306
history in Santa Rosa, I will

5880
03:07:31,306 --> 03:07:32,274
urge the council to consider

5881
03:07:32,274 --> 03:07:34,143
this unanimously as this is an

5882
03:07:34,143 --> 03:07:36,543
important historic moment and

5883
03:07:37,913 --> 03:07:39,480
the city of Santa Rosa and the

5884
03:07:39,480 --> 03:07:40,149
son of George and Stevan

5885
03:07:40,149 --> 03:07:40,783
architect now deceased. But he

5886
03:07:40,783 --> 03:07:43,183
appeared in these council

5887
03:07:44,152 --> 03:07:45,520
chambers over many years and

5888
03:07:45,520 --> 03:07:46,121
supported many local projects

5889
03:07:46,121 --> 03:07:48,423
as an architect in the

5890
03:07:48,423 --> 03:07:50,492
downtown core and residential

5891
03:07:50,492 --> 03:07:52,561
designs. And but they and

5892
03:07:52,561 --> 03:07:55,530
beyond one of the things that

5893
03:07:55,530 --> 03:07:57,866
I think this report from staff

5894
03:07:57,866 --> 03:08:00,266
and consultants is highlighted

5895
03:08:00,669 --> 03:08:04,269
is not only cost savings, but

5896
03:08:05,775 --> 03:08:07,142
it's a social value and this

5897
03:08:07,142 --> 03:08:08,444
is in transit to the community

5898
03:08:08,444 --> 03:08:11,113
and to civic pride, but also

5899
03:08:11,113 --> 03:08:12,214
civic use for many generations

5900
03:08:12,214 --> 03:08:15,214
to come. I would definitely

5901
03:08:17,653 --> 03:08:18,621
like to urge the design team

5902
03:08:18,621 --> 03:08:19,288
in future generations of use

5903
03:08:19,288 --> 03:08:22,888
of this building to look at

5904
03:08:23,191 --> 03:08:23,859
the tops base. I don't know

5905
03:08:23,859 --> 03:08:25,728
the engineering. Certainly,

5906
03:08:25,728 --> 03:08:28,728
sir, you would. And MR.

5907
03:08:29,865 --> 03:08:32,865
Trailwood. But a roof garden

5908
03:08:32,969 --> 03:08:34,804
for the public and staff to

5909
03:08:34,804 --> 03:08:36,605
use in the throes of Kaiser

5910
03:08:36,605 --> 03:08:38,474
Permanente's Roof Garden in

5911
03:08:38,474 --> 03:08:39,107
Oakland. When I was a member

5912
03:08:39,107 --> 03:08:42,278
of the team at Kaiser, we

5913
03:08:42,278 --> 03:08:44,678
enjoyed it quite extensively

5914
03:08:45,280 --> 03:08:46,282
on the top of a parking garage

5915
03:08:46,282 --> 03:08:47,983
and was built because MR.

5916
03:08:47,983 --> 03:08:49,510
Henry j Kaiser said build a

5917
03:08:49,510 --> 03:08:51,587
roof garden for people to use

5918
03:08:51,587 --> 03:08:52,522
and was open for the public

5919
03:08:52,522 --> 03:08:54,757
and perhaps that could happen

5920
03:08:54,757 --> 03:08:55,657
here in Santa Rosa. Another

5921
03:08:55,657 --> 03:08:56,392
beautification project. And

5922
03:08:56,392 --> 03:08:58,792
lastly, my mom, Terri,

5923
03:09:00,262 --> 03:09:01,463
Stephen, is a big proponent of

5924
03:09:01,463 --> 03:09:02,331
keeping. The fountains are

5925
03:09:02,331 --> 03:09:02,999
bringing them back to

5926
03:09:02,999 --> 03:09:04,000
courthouse square. So where

5927
03:09:04,000 --> 03:09:04,667
are those mountains are? If

5928
03:09:04,667 --> 03:09:07,667
they could come back? That

5929
03:09:08,437 --> 03:09:09,104
would be great. Thank you.

5930
03:09:09,104 --> 03:09:09,772
>> Stay tuned, MR. Stephen,

5931
03:09:09,772 --> 03:09:10,439
thank you very much. We're

5932
03:09:10,439 --> 03:09:11,640
going to Betty Andrews and

5933
03:09:11,640 --> 03:09:15,840
then doing too wet that he and

5934
03:09:17,180 --> 03:09:18,470
chambers. Welcome. You have

5935
03:09:18,470 --> 03:09:20,850
the floor. Thank you. Thank

5936
03:09:20,850 --> 03:09:21,216
you, mayor. Members of the

5937
03:09:21,216 --> 03:09:22,919
council.

5938
03:09:22,919 --> 03:09:24,860
>> My name is Betty Andrews.

5939
03:09:24,860 --> 03:09:27,860
I'm a 38 year resident of

5940
03:09:27,657 --> 03:09:28,291
Santa Rosa and I then working

5941
03:09:28,291 --> 03:09:29,992
throughout that time as a

5942
03:09:29,992 --> 03:09:30,660
professional civil engineer

5943
03:09:30,660 --> 03:09:32,962
had an opportunity to work

5944
03:09:32,962 --> 03:09:34,631
with my friend and neighbor,

5945
03:09:34,631 --> 03:09:38,231
MR. Carlo, who you just heard

5946
03:09:40,536 --> 03:09:41,237
from back at the beginning of

5947
03:09:41,237 --> 03:09:44,407
focus on Santa Rosa Creek and

5948
03:09:44,407 --> 03:09:45,241
the possibility of lightening

5949
03:09:45,241 --> 03:09:48,241
this feature of our downtown

5950
03:09:50,647 --> 03:09:51,381
area. I worked on that Creek

5951
03:09:51,381 --> 03:09:53,349
Masterplan in the early

5952
03:09:53,349 --> 03:09:55,551
1990's. I worked on Prince

5953
03:09:55,551 --> 03:09:57,854
Memorial Greenway. I also

5954
03:09:57,854 --> 03:09:58,555
worked on the hydrology and

5955
03:09:58,555 --> 03:10:00,723
hydraulics studies that found

5956
03:10:00,723 --> 03:10:03,723
created the foundation for the

5957
03:10:04,627 --> 03:10:06,396
fema flood maps that are

5958
03:10:06,396 --> 03:10:07,630
provisionally out there and

5959
03:10:07,630 --> 03:10:10,663
soon to be adopted for the

5960
03:10:10,966 --> 03:10:13,903
city of Santa Rosa. And I want

5961
03:10:13,903 --> 03:10:14,604
to applaud the staff for

5962
03:10:14,604 --> 03:10:15,304
coming up with a solution. As

5963
03:10:15,304 --> 03:10:17,373
a resident, it's been hard to

5964
03:10:17,373 --> 03:10:17,973
see how we were going to solve

5965
03:10:17,973 --> 03:10:20,877
this problem. So I like

5966
03:10:20,877 --> 03:10:21,978
everything about it. With one

5967
03:10:21,978 --> 03:10:24,378
exception. I'm worried about

5968
03:10:28,985 --> 03:10:30,419
that. 1.6, 1 acres. I do not

5969
03:10:30,419 --> 03:10:31,420
understand the basis for

5970
03:10:31,420 --> 03:10:33,420
director Hennessy's statement

5971
03:10:34,124 --> 03:10:36,226
that all options are

5972
03:10:36,226 --> 03:10:38,194
preserved. It's a very narrow

5973
03:10:38,194 --> 03:10:41,194
corridor that has been set

5974
03:10:45,401 --> 03:10:47,904
aside in this plan. I e do not

5975
03:10:47,904 --> 03:10:50,304
know what analysis developed.

5976
03:10:50,574 --> 03:10:53,577
That number. And that form of

5977
03:10:53,577 --> 03:10:56,577
land to preserve options along

5978
03:10:59,916 --> 03:11:02,916
the creek the Sonoma Water

5979
03:11:03,987 --> 03:11:05,880
staff who have been working on

5980
03:11:05,880 --> 03:11:05,956
solutions for Santa Rosa Creek

5981
03:11:05,956 --> 03:11:08,956
to deal with those culverts

5982
03:11:11,461 --> 03:11:12,950
have not been consulted with

5983
03:11:12,950 --> 03:11:12,862
those cold hurts are the

5984
03:11:12,862 --> 03:11:14,765
biggest hydraulic constrained

5985
03:11:14,765 --> 03:11:18,201
in the entire city of Santa

5986
03:11:18,201 --> 03:11:19,169
Rosa. And this is a

5987
03:11:19,169 --> 03:11:21,169
generational opportunity to

5988
03:11:21,238 --> 03:11:23,730
make sure we set aside enough

5989
03:11:23,730 --> 03:11:26,730
land to thank. Thank Sanders,

5990
03:11:37,754 --> 03:11:40,154
MR. MR. Do it.

5991
03:11:41,124 --> 03:11:42,590
>> Hello. My name is doing to

5992
03:11:42,590 --> 03:11:43,459
from Rosen. But I've been in

5993
03:11:43,459 --> 03:11:46,229
Santa Rosa all my life. Pretty

5994
03:11:46,229 --> 03:11:48,629
much. Remember the Occidental

5995
03:11:48,865 --> 03:11:51,265
Hotel lasted for 100 years

5996
03:11:51,668 --> 03:11:52,402
until 1976, when urban renewal

5997
03:11:52,402 --> 03:11:55,873
decide they were going to help

5998
03:11:55,873 --> 03:11:56,306
downtown.

5999
03:11:56,306 --> 03:11:56,974
>> So

6000
03:11:56,974 --> 03:11:59,374
>> it's been interesting to

6001
03:12:00,900 --> 03:12:01,145
hear these discussions. One of

6002
03:12:01,145 --> 03:12:02,646
the things that's most

6003
03:12:02,646 --> 03:12:04,715
important for the public to

6004
03:12:04,715 --> 03:12:06,683
evaluate the taxpayer

6005
03:12:06,683 --> 03:12:07,584
liability is give the public

6006
03:12:07,584 --> 03:12:09,984
the actual opportunity to

6007
03:12:10,821 --> 03:12:12,550
speak more at the meetings.

6008
03:12:12,550 --> 03:12:14,455
Taking away the 3 minute

6009
03:12:15,250 --> 03:12:15,726
making it too running

6010
03:12:15,726 --> 03:12:17,726
everything clicks. Everybody

6011
03:12:19,290 --> 03:12:20,730
goes your way is not the best

6012
03:12:20,730 --> 03:12:21,398
way to have the public be

6013
03:12:21,398 --> 03:12:24,398
served. And that's what we

6014
03:12:24,734 --> 03:12:27,734
learned from urban renewal. As

6015
03:12:28,872 --> 03:12:29,673
it stands now. You haven't

6016
03:12:29,673 --> 03:12:32,673
talked much about how museum

6017
03:12:34,311 --> 03:12:36,447
on the square got tnt

6018
03:12:36,447 --> 03:12:37,214
building, which was owned by

6019
03:12:37,214 --> 03:12:39,316
the city of Santa Rosa's

6020
03:12:39,316 --> 03:12:41,850
redevelopment agency in the

6021
03:12:41,850 --> 03:12:43,687
past. And there was a deal

6022
03:12:43,687 --> 03:12:45,220
done for the building to go

6023
03:12:45,220 --> 03:12:45,756
over too. A developer with an

6024
03:12:45,756 --> 03:12:48,692
idea that housing would get in

6025
03:12:48,692 --> 03:12:51,227
there. I went to those

6026
03:12:51,227 --> 03:12:51,896
meetings. I participated. One

6027
03:12:51,896 --> 03:12:54,664
of the things that happens

6028
03:12:54,664 --> 03:12:56,466
when we get a lockstep kind of

6029
03:12:56,466 --> 03:12:59,904
crew like you got here today

6030
03:12:59,904 --> 03:13:02,305
is we're going to lose. We're

6031
03:13:02,305 --> 03:13:04,208
going to lose money. So I ask

6032
03:13:04,208 --> 03:13:06,476
you not to give any money to

6033
03:13:06,476 --> 03:13:08,876
the proposed developer. Just

6034
03:13:10,347 --> 03:13:11,480
do a straight across exchange.

6035
03:13:11,480 --> 03:13:13,117
You've already made your mind

6036
03:13:13,117 --> 03:13:13,850
up to give the land up. So

6037
03:13:13,850 --> 03:13:17,450
don't give any of our taxpayer

6038
03:13:18,456 --> 03:13:19,689
money over. I've watched

6039
03:13:19,689 --> 03:13:21,689
development agreements.

6040
03:13:22,459 --> 03:13:24,295
Violated. I've seen it. I know

6041
03:13:24,295 --> 03:13:26,263
what's going to happen here in

6042
03:13:26,263 --> 03:13:26,930
the future. The taxpayers are

6043
03:13:26,930 --> 03:13:27,597
going to be on the hook for

6044
03:13:27,597 --> 03:13:29,433
things that cost more than

6045
03:13:29,433 --> 03:13:31,168
you've been told and down the

6046
03:13:31,168 --> 03:13:33,300
road. You won't be

6047
03:13:33,300 --> 03:13:34,138
accountable. No one will be

6048
03:13:34,138 --> 03:13:37,138
held accountable. You get to

6049
03:13:39,143 --> 03:13:41,145
walk away. Sadly. Thank you,

6050
03:13:41,145 --> 03:13:42,480
MR. Do Does anybody else in

6051
03:13:42,480 --> 03:13:43,147
council chambers wish to

6052
03:13:43,147 --> 03:13:46,117
speak? Fred, are you making

6053
03:13:46,117 --> 03:13:47,351
your way to the microphone?

6054
03:13:47,351 --> 03:13:48,819
>> Good afternoon. Again. As

6055
03:13:48,819 --> 03:13:49,553
long as I stayed here this

6056
03:13:49,553 --> 03:13:53,753
long, I might as well throw in

6057
03:13:55,526 --> 03:13:56,927
my $0.2. This reminds me of

6058
03:13:56,927 --> 03:13:58,927
Varias complicated decisions

6059
03:13:59,730 --> 03:14:01,231
that I've had to make myself

6060
03:14:01,231 --> 03:14:05,431
with lot of factors. And so it

6061
03:14:05,736 --> 03:14:08,606
seems to me that that the

6062
03:14:08,606 --> 03:14:09,707
staff and and everyone is is

6063
03:14:09,707 --> 03:14:10,408
making reasonable jean here.

6064
03:14:10,408 --> 03:14:12,143
So I think that, you know, I

6065
03:14:12,143 --> 03:14:14,579
don't know problem with that.

6066
03:14:14,579 --> 03:14:16,848
I'd like follow up on Betty

6067
03:14:16,848 --> 03:14:19,116
Andrews comments. Did have a

6068
03:14:19,116 --> 03:14:19,817
chance to meet with want to

6069
03:14:19,817 --> 03:14:20,451
Sonoma. Water's top engineers

6070
03:14:20,451 --> 03:14:22,851
talking about the Central

6071
03:14:24,221 --> 03:14:26,621
Center rose up watershed

6072
03:14:27,191 --> 03:14:29,960
project and the covert there.

6073
03:14:29,960 --> 03:14:32,830
If you look at the future

6074
03:14:32,830 --> 03:14:33,531
modeling with the in the

6075
03:14:33,531 --> 03:14:34,765
Russian River sustainability

6076
03:14:34,765 --> 03:14:37,680
study, that's no more water

6077
03:14:37,680 --> 03:14:38,360
recently did. There's a

6078
03:14:38,360 --> 03:14:40,371
shocking map of of flooding in

6079
03:14:40,371 --> 03:14:41,390
downtown Santa Rosa and then

6080
03:14:41,390 --> 03:14:43,808
engineered told me that was

6081
03:14:43,808 --> 03:14:44,475
all because of the the covert

6082
03:14:44,475 --> 03:14:46,444
that's on that area. That's

6083
03:14:46,444 --> 03:14:49,444
that's the real problem. It's

6084
03:14:50,981 --> 03:14:53,510
not the Matanzas Dam. And so

6085
03:14:53,510 --> 03:14:54,219
that flooded all the way up

6086
03:14:54,219 --> 03:14:55,253
Montgomery Village. And so

6087
03:14:55,253 --> 03:14:57,550
that looks like it could be a

6088
03:14:57,550 --> 03:15:00,550
future serious problem. So I

6089
03:15:01,159 --> 03:15:02,260
think that it would be

6090
03:15:02,260 --> 03:15:03,361
worthwhile with Austin, normal

6091
03:15:03,361 --> 03:15:04,529
water to 10 loss. Step back

6092
03:15:04,529 --> 03:15:05,597
and look at that covert there

6093
03:15:05,597 --> 03:15:07,432
and see if you got enough

6094
03:15:07,432 --> 03:15:09,634
land, maybe you need another

6095
03:15:09,634 --> 03:15:11,269
half acre or what what you

6096
03:15:11,269 --> 03:15:13,438
need to do to make it so that

6097
03:15:13,438 --> 03:15:15,339
that off future flooding map

6098
03:15:15,339 --> 03:15:17,142
would be greatly reduced.

6099
03:15:17,142 --> 03:15:17,842
Thank you. Thank you, Fred.

6100
03:15:17,842 --> 03:15:20,242
Anybody else in council

6101
03:15:24,783 --> 03:15:26,951
chambers, MR. Floor is yours.

6102
03:15:26,951 --> 03:15:29,721
>> a resident here in Santa

6103
03:15:29,721 --> 03:15:30,755
Rosa. I sent a letter last

6104
03:15:30,755 --> 03:15:34,355
week to the council which I

6105
03:15:34,558 --> 03:15:36,861
hope you had a chance to read.

6106
03:15:36,861 --> 03:15:37,595
But I've been an advocate

6107
03:15:37,595 --> 03:15:40,595
liberating the creek since the

6108
03:15:40,665 --> 03:15:41,799
day. I moved here and

6109
03:15:41,799 --> 03:15:44,602
discovered that the creek was

6110
03:15:44,602 --> 03:15:45,236
flowing under our city hall.

6111
03:15:45,236 --> 03:15:46,137
And so I think there's an

6112
03:15:46,137 --> 03:15:46,771
intention here when I began

6113
03:15:46,771 --> 03:15:49,771
talking about the idea of

6114
03:15:50,175 --> 03:15:51,976
integrating the creek, I heard

6115
03:15:51,976 --> 03:15:53,110
from countless people who for

6116
03:15:53,110 --> 03:15:53,711
decades have been advocating

6117
03:15:53,711 --> 03:15:54,579
for the same things. This is

6118
03:15:54,579 --> 03:15:56,470
not a new idea has been around

6119
03:15:56,470 --> 03:15:59,751
for a really long time. To be

6120
03:15:59,751 --> 03:16:01,653
clear, I'm in full support.

6121
03:16:01,653 --> 03:16:03,540
Not just a full 4. I'm in. In

6122
03:16:03,540 --> 03:16:04,890
support in concept of this

6123
03:16:04,890 --> 03:16:04,756
kind of this project of this

6124
03:16:04,756 --> 03:16:07,156
transfer. I appreciate the

6125
03:16:08,660 --> 03:16:10,195
work the city staff has done

6126
03:16:10,195 --> 03:16:12,595
manage are our city's

6127
03:16:12,997 --> 03:16:15,397
financial situation. I in

6128
03:16:16,434 --> 03:16:17,101
fact, support of development

6129
03:16:17,101 --> 03:16:17,803
here, I'd love to see more

6130
03:16:17,803 --> 03:16:21,403
housing. I'd love to see more

6131
03:16:23,641 --> 03:16:24,342
housing on this property but

6132
03:16:24,342 --> 03:16:25,760
last night when the fit that

6133
03:16:25,760 --> 03:16:27,178
the maps were finally released

6134
03:16:27,178 --> 03:16:27,979
to the public. As you heard

6135
03:16:27,979 --> 03:16:30,816
from it. But Andrews was her

6136
03:16:30,816 --> 03:16:33,718
name said so eloquently. We're

6137
03:16:33,718 --> 03:16:35,454
talking about 1.6 acres that

6138
03:16:35,454 --> 03:16:36,121
narrows to incredibly narrow

6139
03:16:36,121 --> 03:16:37,723
degree. We're talking about

6140
03:16:37,723 --> 03:16:41,359
the length of the width of a

6141
03:16:41,359 --> 03:16:42,494
covert, whether or not that

6142
03:16:42,494 --> 03:16:44,494
can accommodate daylighting

6143
03:16:44,563 --> 03:16:45,664
the creek to any meaningful

6144
03:16:45,664 --> 03:16:49,264
way to make that creek real

6145
03:16:49,568 --> 03:16:50,302
part of our community. I'm

6146
03:16:50,302 --> 03:16:52,237
really doubtful. And that's my

6147
03:16:52,237 --> 03:16:52,938
wish that again increase

6148
03:16:52,938 --> 03:16:56,538
creeks team was so some water

6149
03:16:56,808 --> 03:16:58,877
been consulted prior to this.

6150
03:16:58,877 --> 03:17:01,877
I feel like you're all

6151
03:17:02,747 --> 03:17:04,383
probably moving this evening.

6152
03:17:04,383 --> 03:17:05,170
So what I'll simply say to

6153
03:17:05,170 --> 03:17:07,886
staff and of course, the

6154
03:17:07,886 --> 03:17:10,722
developer Emaar for trial is

6155
03:17:10,722 --> 03:17:13,692
to please take a look at how

6156
03:17:13,692 --> 03:17:15,928
that the creek can become a

6157
03:17:15,928 --> 03:17:16,495
centerpiece for the community,

6158
03:17:16,495 --> 03:17:17,762
a benefit to the new

6159
03:17:17,762 --> 03:17:18,764
development that's going to be

6160
03:17:18,764 --> 03:17:19,431
taking place here and really

6161
03:17:19,431 --> 03:17:22,340
become a landmark for Santa

6162
03:17:22,340 --> 03:17:22,735
Rosa. Thank you, Evan, thank

6163
03:17:22,735 --> 03:17:25,637
you. Anybody else in council

6164
03:17:25,637 --> 03:17:27,637
chambers.

6165
03:17:28,807 --> 03:17:28,995
>> Seeing none. Let's go h#

6166
03:17:28,995 --> 03:17:29,168
#

6167
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#

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.

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03:17:29,975 --> 03:17:31,420
Does anybody have their hand

6170
03:17:31,420 --> 03:17:32,177
raised? If you are online?

6171
03:17:32,177 --> 03:17:35,447
Yeah. Raise your hand or press

6172
03:17:35,447 --> 03:17:36,480
star 9. Lauren, anybody there.

6173
03:17:36,480 --> 03:17:38,448
>> Thank you, mayor. We

6174
03:17:39,651 --> 03:17:41,587
currently have 2 hands raised

6175
03:17:41,587 --> 03:17:42,855
3 hands raised. We will start

6176
03:17:42,855 --> 03:17:45,691
with Joey and then next will

6177
03:17:45,691 --> 03:17:48,691
be chops. And then Ellen.

6178
03:17:48,827 --> 03:17:51,696
Julie, I'm going to go ahead

6179
03:17:51,696 --> 03:17:52,398
and enable your permissions to

6180
03:17:52,398 --> 03:17:54,533
speak. You'll hear the timer

6181
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to alert you to the 2 minutes.

6182
03:17:55,234 --> 03:17:58,300
Please go ahead. When you're

6183
03:17:58,300 --> 03:17:59,204
ready.

6184
03:17:59,204 --> 03:18:02,204
>> Hey, there. Can you hear

6185
03:18:03,800 --> 03:18:05,408
me? Yes, we can.

6186
03:18:06,779 --> 03:18:07,747
>> Hello, I want to.

6187
03:18:07,747 --> 03:18:08,647
>> I have good memories in

6188
03:18:08,647 --> 03:18:11,283
these chambers on the Santa

6189
03:18:11,283 --> 03:18:12,685
Rosa resident. My whole life.

6190
03:18:12,685 --> 03:18:15,850
Grateful for the opportunity

6191
03:18:15,554 --> 03:18:16,221
to address city council just a

6192
03:18:16,221 --> 03:18:19,221
few Still there's they can

6193
03:18:19,892 --> 03:18:20,759
pass this on to the board. I

6194
03:18:20,759 --> 03:18:23,896
really want to echo what the

6195
03:18:23,896 --> 03:18:26,896
last speaker said as well

6196
03:18:27,433 --> 03:18:28,133
Indians Andrews about the

6197
03:18:28,133 --> 03:18:31,133
creek and concerned about the

6198
03:18:31,871 --> 03:18:34,600
creek. I want. And in the

6199
03:18:34,600 --> 03:18:35,700
1950's was a time of concrete

6200
03:18:35,700 --> 03:18:36,108
hazing and channeling. And i

6201
03:18:36,108 --> 03:18:39,578
really and it was before the

6202
03:18:39,578 --> 03:18:41,978
term ecology really existed.

6203
03:18:42,681 --> 03:18:44,750
And here we are in 2026 of

6204
03:18:44,750 --> 03:18:45,451
this great opportunity that

6205
03:18:45,451 --> 03:18:46,118
again, does seem like you're

6206
03:18:46,118 --> 03:18:47,119
going to vote yes on. And I

6207
03:18:47,119 --> 03:18:47,686
think there's a lot of good

6208
03:18:47,686 --> 03:18:49,686
reasons for.

6209
03:18:52,924 --> 03:18:54,193
>> But I would really like you

6210
03:18:54,193 --> 03:18:55,961
I would like to put it in the

6211
03:18:55,961 --> 03:18:58,361
strongest language possible in

6212
03:18:58,865 --> 03:18:59,598
these in this development

6213
03:18:59,598 --> 03:19:00,166
agreement to mandate

6214
03:19:00,166 --> 03:19:02,166
Daylighting the creek

6215
03:19:04,236 --> 03:19:05,405
featuring the creek. I'm

6216
03:19:05,405 --> 03:19:09,500
thinking of South Bend and how

6217
03:19:09,441 --> 03:19:10,642
Mayor Pete Buttigieg groove to

6218
03:19:10,642 --> 03:19:11,577
national prominence with the

6219
03:19:11,577 --> 03:19:12,278
good work he did featuring the

6220
03:19:12,278 --> 03:19:15,248
creek and saying, wait, this

6221
03:19:15,248 --> 03:19:18,248
can be amazing. And building

6222
03:19:18,551 --> 03:19:19,184
on I think some of the

6223
03:19:19,184 --> 03:19:19,885
mistakes made with Prince

6224
03:19:19,885 --> 03:19:22,285
Memorial. Let's learn, let's

6225
03:19:23,522 --> 03:19:25,922
learn from what many

6226
03:19:26,250 --> 03:19:26,759
municipalities have done and

6227
03:19:26,759 --> 03:19:27,427
let's fate have the building's

6228
03:19:27,427 --> 03:19:30,427
faced a creek really again

6229
03:19:30,429 --> 03:19:32,732
featuring it as an asset. If

6230
03:19:32,732 --> 03:19:33,432
anybody's looking for good

6231
03:19:33,432 --> 03:19:36,432
summer read just finished one

6232
03:19:38,638 --> 03:19:39,372
called. Is a river, a life. By

6233
03:19:39,372 --> 03:19:42,372
Robert McFarland. And he's got

6234
03:19:43,142 --> 03:19:46,742
a really good section. Kind of

6235
03:19:47,546 --> 03:19:48,447
some what I'm saying here. So

6236
03:19:48,447 --> 03:19:50,490
again, the I have some

6237
03:19:50,490 --> 03:19:50,783
skepticism about the 1.6 one

6238
03:19:50,783 --> 03:19:53,520
acres as well. I'd like you to

6239
03:19:53,520 --> 03:19:54,988
take a closer look at that.

6240
03:19:54,988 --> 03:19:57,256
And I do think is great idea

6241
03:19:57,256 --> 03:19:58,291
and a great project, but let's

6242
03:19:58,291 --> 03:19:58,924
do it right. Once in a

6243
03:19:58,924 --> 03:20:00,924
generation opportunity to

6244
03:20:01,760 --> 03:20:03,760
shake your time.

6245
03:20:08,702 --> 03:20:09,436
>> Thank you, Joey. Next will

6246
03:20:09,436 --> 03:20:13,360
be chops teen club followed by

6247
03:20:14,841 --> 03:20:15,441
Allen. Chop Simon, a billing,

6248
03:20:15,441 --> 03:20:17,441
your position, your

6249
03:20:18,211 --> 03:20:19,445
permissions.

6250
03:20:19,445 --> 03:20:20,112
>> Hi, good evening, MR. Mayor

6251
03:20:20,112 --> 03:20:23,112
members of the council, my

6252
03:20:23,149 --> 03:20:23,849
name is Kevin Anderson. And

6253
03:20:23,849 --> 03:20:26,152
then in the West and Historic

6254
03:20:26,152 --> 03:20:26,886
District of Santa Rosa also

6255
03:20:26,886 --> 03:20:28,988
work in the downtown core is a

6256
03:20:28,988 --> 03:20:30,123
program director at Trump's

6257
03:20:30,123 --> 03:20:31,424
team club and then many

6258
03:20:31,424 --> 03:20:32,191
interactions with many of you

6259
03:20:32,191 --> 03:20:33,559
and respect the time and

6260
03:20:33,559 --> 03:20:34,827
energy put you put into making

6261
03:20:34,827 --> 03:20:35,495
the city quite a good place to

6262
03:20:35,495 --> 03:20:38,640
live. But Santa Rosa can be

6263
03:20:38,640 --> 03:20:38,798
better, much better. It is

6264
03:20:38,798 --> 03:20:41,501
empty each of you to recognize

6265
03:20:41,501 --> 03:20:42,468
the opportunity. You have. The

6266
03:20:42,468 --> 03:20:44,337
amenities we have here in

6267
03:20:44,337 --> 03:20:46,405
Santa Rosa can rival any other

6268
03:20:46,405 --> 03:20:47,673
city here we have a small town

6269
03:20:47,673 --> 03:20:49,509
feel of the big count energy,

6270
03:20:49,509 --> 03:20:50,143
however, as many of already

6271
03:20:50,143 --> 03:20:51,111
mentioned, fly under the

6272
03:20:51,111 --> 03:20:53,212
radar. And there's one major

6273
03:20:53,212 --> 03:20:54,381
reason our downtown has been

6274
03:20:54,381 --> 03:20:56,249
gutted for multiple urban

6275
03:20:56,249 --> 03:20:57,283
renewal projects gone wrong.

6276
03:20:57,283 --> 03:20:59,619
None of you made the choice to

6277
03:20:59,619 --> 03:21:02,190
the most historic buildings.

6278
03:21:02,422 --> 03:21:03,389
My for Courthouse squares,

6279
03:21:03,389 --> 03:21:04,891
destroy the walkability on the

6280
03:21:04,891 --> 03:21:07,291
housing connection. Here we

6281
03:21:07,861 --> 03:21:09,129
are over 50 years later with

6282
03:21:09,129 --> 03:21:11,640
an opportunity to bring that

6283
03:21:11,640 --> 03:21:12,999
to downtown that charm. Not

6284
03:21:12,999 --> 03:21:14,340
only must we like the Santa

6285
03:21:14,340 --> 03:21:16,169
Rosa Creek. We must make it a

6286
03:21:16,169 --> 03:21:17,971
prominent feature. The

6287
03:21:17,971 --> 03:21:19,339
downtown landscape. Somebody

6288
03:21:19,339 --> 03:21:21,730
mentioned bend. But you can

6289
03:21:21,730 --> 03:21:22,275
also think about Creek in

6290
03:21:22,275 --> 03:21:23,900
Libya, Park and downtown kind

6291
03:21:23,900 --> 03:21:23,643
of the San Francisco

6292
03:21:23,643 --> 03:21:25,643
Embarcadero after the 89

6293
03:21:28,810 --> 03:21:29,282
quake. Madonna utilize the

6294
03:21:29,282 --> 03:21:29,916
creek path from the West and

6295
03:21:29,916 --> 03:21:32,916
the Sonoma Avenue for our

6296
03:21:33,386 --> 03:21:34,287
daily by commute to school

6297
03:21:34,287 --> 03:21:34,922
birds. Fish river otters are

6298
03:21:34,922 --> 03:21:38,392
just a few of the amazing

6299
03:21:38,392 --> 03:21:39,590
gives. We get daily. Urge you

6300
03:21:39,590 --> 03:21:42,590
to not let opportunity slip

6301
03:21:43,530 --> 03:21:44,231
away on it. I love the words,

6302
03:21:44,231 --> 03:21:45,265
MISTER Hugh, for tell. And I

6303
03:21:45,265 --> 03:21:45,899
totally agree. This can be a

6304
03:21:45,899 --> 03:21:47,100
game-changer for downtown

6305
03:21:47,100 --> 03:21:49,102
Santa Rosa. He talked about

6306
03:21:49,102 --> 03:21:50,170
contact with the community of

6307
03:21:50,170 --> 03:21:53,170
transparency shape than we the

6308
03:21:54,375 --> 03:21:56,760
public like I love this. But

6309
03:21:56,760 --> 03:21:56,844
we need to make daylighting

6310
03:21:56,844 --> 03:21:59,244
binding condition. Not an

6311
03:21:59,580 --> 03:22:00,247
aspiration set design standard

6312
03:22:00,247 --> 03:22:02,247
creekside development that

6313
03:22:02,917 --> 03:22:03,917
faces the creek. And let's

6314
03:22:03,917 --> 03:22:05,319
look at the whole space with

6315
03:22:05,319 --> 03:22:05,986
the other John o'Shea, federal

6316
03:22:05,986 --> 03:22:08,856
building next door. Look at

6317
03:22:08,856 --> 03:22:10,190
the whole thing. In a minimum

6318
03:22:10,190 --> 03:22:12,258
up, John mentioned this a

6319
03:22:12,258 --> 03:22:14,494
minimum, the public design

6320
03:22:14,494 --> 03:22:15,161
process even well publicized

6321
03:22:15,161 --> 03:22:15,829
workshop. Before we go into

6322
03:22:15,829 --> 03:22:17,829
any development agreement.

6323
03:22:20,434 --> 03:22:21,101
Thank you.

6324
03:22:21,101 --> 03:22:24,101
>> Thank you. Next will be

6325
03:22:28,808 --> 03:22:29,877
Ellen. Helen. I'm going to.

6326
03:22:29,877 --> 03:22:30,544
Enable your permissions to

6327
03:22:30,544 --> 03:22:33,544
talk. Please go ahead when

6328
03:22:35,916 --> 03:22:37,840
you're ready.

6329
03:22:37,840 --> 03:22:39,319
>> Thank you. Very impressed

6330
03:22:39,319 --> 03:22:41,689
by all the work that has gone

6331
03:22:41,689 --> 03:22:44,689
into this and appalled by

6332
03:22:45,492 --> 03:22:47,492
deferred maintenance. How

6333
03:22:48,328 --> 03:22:49,196
overall it seems to be

6334
03:22:49,196 --> 03:22:51,980
excellent agreement. However,

6335
03:22:51,980 --> 03:22:52,799
I agree the creek is a

6336
03:22:52,799 --> 03:22:53,433
sticking point. Literally a

6337
03:22:53,433 --> 03:22:55,833
sticking point. When you

6338
03:22:57,771 --> 03:22:58,372
speak, has it covered? I'm

6339
03:22:58,372 --> 03:22:59,390
absolutely in favor of

6340
03:22:59,390 --> 03:23:01,439
daylighting. I think making

6341
03:23:02,843 --> 03:23:05,243
features wonderful. But far

6342
03:23:06,480 --> 03:23:10,800
beyond that, the call Kids k.

6343
03:23:10,384 --> 03:23:12,719
Liability far beyond perhaps

6344
03:23:12,719 --> 03:23:13,888
100 million considering was

6345
03:23:13,888 --> 03:23:14,588
happening with our climate and

6346
03:23:14,588 --> 03:23:17,588
what floods have taken place

6347
03:23:17,959 --> 03:23:21,194
in other areas. So I do think

6348
03:23:21,194 --> 03:23:24,194
the while this he's obviously

6349
03:23:26,333 --> 03:23:29,333
on track to happen tonight.

6350
03:23:29,804 --> 03:23:30,538
You have something that case.

6351
03:23:30,538 --> 03:23:34,138
Huge and needs to be addressed

6352
03:23:38,112 --> 03:23:40,112
here.

6353
03:23:41,616 --> 03:23:44,918
>> Thank you, Ellen. And I am

6354
03:23:44,918 --> 03:23:47,918
seeing there hands raised on

6355
03:23:48,989 --> 03:23:49,624
zoom.

6356
03:23:49,624 --> 03:23:51,624
>> Wonderful. Thank you.

6357
03:23:52,259 --> 03:23:53,600
Alright, we will bring it back

6358
03:23:53,600 --> 03:23:56,664
to before we open it up to 2

6359
03:23:56,664 --> 03:23:57,732
to thoughts here. All right.

6360
03:23:57,732 --> 03:23:58,833
Some several several of the

6361
03:23:58,833 --> 03:24:01,233
speakers did raise an

6362
03:24:01,769 --> 03:24:02,670
important issue. And one of

6363
03:24:02,670 --> 03:24:03,403
the city is well aware of it

6364
03:24:03,403 --> 03:24:05,720
as the importance of this site

6365
03:24:05,720 --> 03:24:07,241
and that creek for flood

6366
03:24:07,241 --> 03:24:09,109
control. And we certainly

6367
03:24:09,109 --> 03:24:10,478
wouldn't want more get out

6368
03:24:10,478 --> 03:24:12,146
there that that we were not in

6369
03:24:12,146 --> 03:24:14,281
touch regularly with Sonoma

6370
03:24:14,281 --> 03:24:16,150
Water. Fact I myself is with

6371
03:24:16,150 --> 03:24:16,650
the snow water team at the

6372
03:24:16,650 --> 03:24:17,384
Matanzas Stammer

6373
03:24:17,384 --> 03:24:19,384
rehabilitation discussion just

6374
03:24:20,355 --> 03:24:21,890
a week ago. We are well aware

6375
03:24:21,890 --> 03:24:21,756
the fema fund, fema flood maps

6376
03:24:21,756 --> 03:24:24,756
we've been doing with those

6377
03:24:25,126 --> 03:24:26,594
for a couple years now. Are

6378
03:24:26,594 --> 03:24:28,429
centers of water team has been

6379
03:24:28,429 --> 03:24:30,665
noise is constant focus on

6380
03:24:30,665 --> 03:24:32,367
this issue. Dan, very briefly

6381
03:24:32,367 --> 03:24:33,935
can use can use confirmed for

6382
03:24:33,935 --> 03:24:35,370
the public that we we do have

6383
03:24:35,370 --> 03:24:36,404
flood control issues in mind.

6384
03:24:36,404 --> 03:24:37,705
We're well aware of the

6385
03:24:37,705 --> 03:24:38,806
importance of of this

6386
03:24:38,806 --> 03:24:39,774
particular particular section

6387
03:24:39,774 --> 03:24:41,542
of covert. Now want to

6388
03:24:41,542 --> 03:24:42,810
highlight that. The 1.6 one

6389
03:24:42,810 --> 03:24:44,120
acres that we mentioned is not

6390
03:24:44,120 --> 03:24:44,813
a random number. We've done

6391
03:24:44,813 --> 03:24:47,748
surveys out there to know

6392
03:24:47,748 --> 03:24:49,750
exactly where the culverts

6393
03:24:49,750 --> 03:24:51,685
are. We've kept an amount of

6394
03:24:51,685 --> 03:24:52,220
land be on the edge of the

6395
03:24:52,220 --> 03:24:52,920
culverts to give us

6396
03:24:52,920 --> 03:24:53,621
flexibility in terms of what

6397
03:24:53,621 --> 03:24:56,557
we do in the future.

6398
03:24:56,557 --> 03:24:58,626
>> And so like I mentioned,

6399
03:24:58,626 --> 03:24:59,260
respect to the land available

6400
03:24:59,260 --> 03:24:59,961
where where the culverts

6401
03:24:59,961 --> 03:25:02,361
currently exist. All options

6402
03:25:03,230 --> 03:25:04,198
are on the table to anything

6403
03:25:04,198 --> 03:25:05,232
that would happen on this

6404
03:25:05,232 --> 03:25:07,134
property. We would still have

6405
03:25:07,134 --> 03:25:07,868
to move some somebody out of

6406
03:25:07,868 --> 03:25:09,304
the way these buildings out of

6407
03:25:09,304 --> 03:25:12,239
the way to make something else

6408
03:25:12,239 --> 03:25:14,175
happened. We have now from the

6409
03:25:14,175 --> 03:25:14,776
edge of property that we're

6410
03:25:14,776 --> 03:25:16,711
keeping to the exchange

6411
03:25:16,711 --> 03:25:17,412
agreement all the way into

6412
03:25:17,412 --> 03:25:18,946
Sonoma Avenue. If we need to

6413
03:25:18,946 --> 03:25:20,749
to reconfigure and make things

6414
03:25:20,749 --> 03:25:22,417
happen. So there are still

6415
03:25:22,417 --> 03:25:24,819
lots of options on the table

6416
03:25:24,819 --> 03:25:27,219
and frankly conditioning any

6417
03:25:27,255 --> 03:25:28,560
of that on MR. Futrell would

6418
03:25:28,560 --> 03:25:30,456
make exchange agreement fall

6419
03:25:33,261 --> 03:25:34,863
apart keeping us with the

6420
03:25:34,863 --> 03:25:35,564
property allows us flexibility

6421
03:25:35,564 --> 03:25:36,965
of that land moving forward.

6422
03:25:36,965 --> 03:25:37,899
Perfect. Thank you. And I

6423
03:25:37,899 --> 03:25:39,300
think that underlines as well

6424
03:25:39,300 --> 03:25:40,350
for the public is rightfully

6425
03:25:40,350 --> 03:25:43,171
interested in the creek as all

6426
03:25:43,171 --> 03:25:44,272
of us here are.

6427
03:25:44,272 --> 03:25:46,408
>> How complicated and how

6428
03:25:46,408 --> 03:25:47,142
public and how frequent those

6429
03:25:47,142 --> 03:25:47,809
conversations are going to be.

6430
03:25:47,809 --> 03:25:49,511
That is not going to that.

6431
03:25:49,511 --> 03:25:50,512
That's not gonna be a simple

6432
03:25:50,512 --> 03:25:51,413
meeting or 2. That's gonna be

6433
03:25:51,413 --> 03:25:53,480
a long discussion of how that

6434
03:25:53,480 --> 03:25:53,882
and how that creek is best

6435
03:25:53,882 --> 03:25:55,883
best used for the city. So

6436
03:25:55,883 --> 03:25:56,485
absolutely. Stay tuned with

6437
03:25:56,485 --> 03:25:59,485
that. Let's go back to

6438
03:26:02,891 --> 03:26:03,491
council. Final final thoughts.

6439
03:26:03,491 --> 03:26:06,491
What I'm looking for, a

6440
03:26:07,195 --> 03:26:09,310
motion. And I think I think

6441
03:26:09,310 --> 03:26:10,666
I'm looking at Rogers. Yes,

6442
03:26:10,666 --> 03:26:12,666
there we

6443
03:26:14,802 --> 03:26:17,239
>> I would just like to thank

6444
03:26:17,239 --> 03:26:20,239
staff Thank Not llc. Thank

6445
03:26:21,176 --> 03:26:23,440
you. The consultants and thank

6446
03:26:23,440 --> 03:26:23,845
the mayor for allowing me to

6447
03:26:23,845 --> 03:26:26,845
make this motion because this

6448
03:26:27,916 --> 03:26:30,886
is a very historical like the

6449
03:26:30,886 --> 03:26:32,354
meeting because I'm just so

6450
03:26:32,354 --> 03:26:35,354
excited. And at the potential

6451
03:26:35,490 --> 03:26:37,426
what is about to transpire. So

6452
03:26:37,426 --> 03:26:38,960
with that, I would like to

6453
03:26:38,960 --> 03:26:39,628
make a motion to adopt 2

6454
03:26:39,628 --> 03:26:40,395
resolutions as presented by

6455
03:26:40,395 --> 03:26:42,395
staff in way.

6456
03:26:45,967 --> 03:26:46,668
>> Are there?

6457
03:26:46,668 --> 03:26:49,668
>> Reading of the trading of

6458
03:26:49,804 --> 03:26:50,505
the attack saying it.

6459
03:26:50,505 --> 03:26:54,105
>> he's got that, this is how

6460
03:26:54,576 --> 03:26:55,210
excited we are. People. We are

6461
03:26:55,210 --> 03:26:58,790
we good with the motion a

6462
03:26:58,790 --> 03:26:58,780
second. MADAM City clerk. All

6463
03:26:58,780 --> 03:26:59,415
right. If that passes muster,

6464
03:26:59,415 --> 03:27:02,415
then let's let's call the

6465
03:27:02,918 --> 03:27:03,953
roll.

6466
03:27:03,953 --> 03:27:05,420
>> Call thank you, Mayor

6467
03:27:05,420 --> 03:27:07,420
Councilmember Rogers Side,

6468
03:27:07,689 --> 03:27:08,824
Councilmember I councilmember

6469
03:27:08,824 --> 03:27:10,824
Fleming Councilmember Ben

6470
03:27:11,927 --> 03:27:12,261
Willows. Yes, Councilmember

6471
03:27:12,261 --> 03:27:12,961
office.

6472
03:27:12,961 --> 03:27:14,429
>> All say is a kids play to

6473
03:27:14,429 --> 03:27:17,533
most of the critical center is

6474
03:27:17,533 --> 03:27:19,101
a I don't care how old I If

6475
03:27:19,101 --> 03:27:22,701
it's over earth and shown I

6476
03:27:23,706 --> 03:27:24,339
will be in that creek. So

6477
03:27:24,339 --> 03:27:26,739
>> Thank you. Vice Mayor

6478
03:27:26,775 --> 03:27:27,442
Okrepkie I mayor step yes. But

6479
03:27:27,442 --> 03:27:30,442
the record show this passes

6480
03:27:31,947 --> 03:27:32,615
unanimously.

6481
03:27:32,615 --> 03:27:33,882
>> That that is worthy of a

6482
03:27:33,882 --> 03:27:34,550
little lies. All right. A big

6483
03:27:34,550 --> 03:27:35,250
swing, indeed. Thank. Thank

6484
03:27:35,250 --> 03:27:38,850
you, city team for getting to

6485
03:27:39,188 --> 03:27:40,923
this point. So after

6486
03:27:40,923 --> 03:27:41,657
consulting with my colleagues

6487
03:27:41,657 --> 03:27:42,323
were going to power on just to

6488
03:27:42,323 --> 03:27:44,259
show that the city of Santa

6489
03:27:44,259 --> 03:27:45,795
Rosa never rests even when

6490
03:27:45,795 --> 03:27:48,300
we're going in getting into

6491
03:27:48,300 --> 03:27:51,233
our 4, go back to our public

6492
03:27:51,233 --> 03:27:54,233
comment on non agenda matters.

6493
03:27:54,537 --> 03:27:55,471
Our first public comment and

6494
03:27:55,471 --> 03:27:56,672
gender matters. And those of

6495
03:27:56,672 --> 03:27:57,373
you heading for the door. Be

6496
03:27:57,373 --> 03:27:59,208
aware that we've got exciting

6497
03:27:59,208 --> 03:28:01,310
items left to come. We're

6498
03:28:01,310 --> 03:28:03,120
talking about storm water

6499
03:28:03,120 --> 03:28:06,612
charges. Yeah, no, no. Need to

6500
03:28:06,681 --> 03:28:07,883
rush hour. But first. First,

6501
03:28:07,883 --> 03:28:09,118
this is your chance to to to

6502
03:28:09,118 --> 03:28:12,718
make public MAY comment on it

6503
03:28:13,923 --> 03:28:14,657
was not listed on the agenda.

6504
03:28:14,657 --> 03:28:16,425
Anybody in council chambers is

6505
03:28:16,425 --> 03:28:17,590
not simply walking towards the

6506
03:28:17,590 --> 03:28:17,759
door was to make comment

6507
03:28:17,759 --> 03:28:20,429
items, not just on the agenda

6508
03:28:20,429 --> 03:28:21,162
Fred. Even kick us off. All

6509
03:28:21,162 --> 03:28:24,762
right. Bring some order to the

6510
03:28:27,904 --> 03:28:29,305
room, Fred. Here you're out.

6511
03:28:29,305 --> 03:28:32,208
>> Again, been sort of new to

6512
03:28:32,208 --> 03:28:34,900
Santa Rosa and I felt like

6513
03:28:34,900 --> 03:28:34,744
coming to the city council is

6514
03:28:34,744 --> 03:28:37,744
kind of like visiting the

6515
03:28:42,351 --> 03:28:44,119
Oracle of Delphi the council

6516
03:28:44,119 --> 03:28:44,754
someone inscrutable and my

6517
03:28:44,754 --> 03:28:47,754
journey find the Isle of

6518
03:28:48,224 --> 03:28:48,925
Equity in a just society. I

6519
03:28:48,925 --> 03:28:52,280
have found that the Oracle to

6520
03:28:52,280 --> 03:28:53,429
be tremendously transparent.

6521
03:28:53,429 --> 03:28:56,265
But this evening, I have to

6522
03:28:56,265 --> 03:28:57,467
say that I was very impressed

6523
03:28:57,467 --> 03:28:58,600
with councilmember well as

6524
03:28:58,600 --> 03:29:01,000
comments and really appreciate

6525
03:29:01,537 --> 03:29:03,806
that. Thank you very much.

6526
03:29:03,806 --> 03:29:04,574
>> Thank you, Fred and Oracle

6527
03:29:04,574 --> 03:29:05,308
Delphi. Appreciate that. All

6528
03:29:05,308 --> 03:29:08,308
right. We're going ebb economy

6529
03:29:08,510 --> 03:29:12,110
and then to Wayne Ave Europe.

6530
03:29:13,182 --> 03:29:14,117
>> Mayor and council members.

6531
03:29:14,117 --> 03:29:14,851
>> I am.

6532
03:29:14,851 --> 03:29:17,453
>> Here tonight to invite each

6533
03:29:17,453 --> 03:29:20,389
of you to participate in this

6534
03:29:20,389 --> 03:29:22,250
year's a week without driving.

6535
03:29:22,250 --> 03:29:24,425
It's Thursday, OCTOBER, first

6536
03:29:25,128 --> 03:29:27,128
through Wednesday, OCTOBER

6537
03:29:29,320 --> 03:29:30,333
8th. And it's a national

6538
03:29:30,333 --> 03:29:32,333
observation the use

6539
03:29:34,470 --> 03:29:36,105
alternatives to cars each year

6540
03:29:36,105 --> 03:29:36,672
we ask elected officials and

6541
03:29:36,672 --> 03:29:38,672
community leaders to

6542
03:29:39,976 --> 03:29:40,877
experience the world as this

6543
03:29:40,877 --> 03:29:43,277
experience by about 30% or

6544
03:29:44,814 --> 03:29:45,615
more of your constituents who

6545
03:29:45,615 --> 03:29:47,817
are dependent on public

6546
03:29:47,817 --> 03:29:49,752
transportation options walking

6547
03:29:49,752 --> 03:29:51,621
and biking. These are your

6548
03:29:51,621 --> 03:29:54,621
constituents who are too young

6549
03:29:55,491 --> 03:29:56,926
to old physically unable

6550
03:29:56,926 --> 03:29:59,950
financially, unable or legally

6551
03:29:59,950 --> 03:30:01,264
unable to have a personal car

6552
03:30:01,264 --> 03:30:03,599
to drive wherever they need to

6553
03:30:03,599 --> 03:30:07,370
be. Even if you are only able

6554
03:30:07,370 --> 03:30:09,406
to participate for one or 2

6555
03:30:09,406 --> 03:30:10,173
days, we really urge you to

6556
03:30:10,173 --> 03:30:13,576
make the commitment and try to

6557
03:30:13,576 --> 03:30:15,579
get around without a car for

6558
03:30:15,579 --> 03:30:17,781
day or 2 during the week

6559
03:30:17,781 --> 03:30:20,820
without driving. I hope you'll

6560
03:30:20,820 --> 03:30:22,180
join North Bay Transit Rise

6561
03:30:22,180 --> 03:30:24,254
Riders in experiencing are

6562
03:30:24,254 --> 03:30:26,654
wonderful biking and walking

6563
03:30:26,923 --> 03:30:28,792
assets as well as our local

6564
03:30:28,792 --> 03:30:29,459
public transportation and that

6565
03:30:29,459 --> 03:30:31,528
when you're doing that, you

6566
03:30:31,528 --> 03:30:33,928
can note any needed

6567
03:30:34,431 --> 03:30:36,565
improvements and you can

6568
03:30:36,565 --> 03:30:38,101
recognize those parts of the

6569
03:30:38,101 --> 03:30:41,370
system that are so wonderful

6570
03:30:41,370 --> 03:30:42,238
and that deserves your

6571
03:30:42,238 --> 03:30:44,140
recognition. Santa Rosa is

6572
03:30:44,140 --> 03:30:44,908
proud to be part of this

6573
03:30:44,908 --> 03:30:45,475
national movement. I'll be

6574
03:30:45,475 --> 03:30:47,875
writing about it for

6575
03:30:48,244 --> 03:30:49,445
Streetsblog again this year.

6576
03:30:49,445 --> 03:30:50,790
And again, the dates are

6577
03:30:50,790 --> 03:30:52,790
Thursday, OCTOBER first

6578
03:30:53,830 --> 03:30:54,483
through Wednesday, OCTOBER 8.

6579
03:30:54,483 --> 03:30:57,200
And if you let me know, I'll

6580
03:30:57,200 --> 03:30:58,555
make sure that you get talked

6581
03:30:58,555 --> 03:30:59,222
about your experiences

6582
03:30:59,222 --> 03:31:01,222
described.

6583
03:31:02,258 --> 03:31:03,994
>> Nationally through streets

6584
03:31:03,994 --> 03:31:04,727
plot. Thank you. Thanks for

6585
03:31:04,727 --> 03:31:06,629
organizing, Connie, Dwayne and

6586
03:31:06,629 --> 03:31:08,629
then Daniel Daniel.

6587
03:31:10,133 --> 03:31:10,766
>> Connie, welcome.

6588
03:31:10,766 --> 03:31:13,203
>> Thank you. This is in

6589
03:31:13,203 --> 03:31:14,403
regards to the city naming

6590
03:31:14,403 --> 03:31:15,138
department. I was here

6591
03:31:15,138 --> 03:31:15,772
starting this several years

6592
03:31:15,772 --> 03:31:18,342
ago and spoke to some eu

6593
03:31:18,342 --> 03:31:20,243
council members that had.

6594
03:31:20,243 --> 03:31:20,944
>> The city naming department

6595
03:31:20,944 --> 03:31:23,347
kinda revises. We're going to

6596
03:31:23,347 --> 03:31:26,347
try get through this anyways.

6597
03:31:27,317 --> 03:31:28,185
This is in regards I'm a Santa

6598
03:31:28,185 --> 03:31:28,885
Rosa resident submitting this

6599
03:31:28,885 --> 03:31:30,787
request regarding an unnamed

6600
03:31:30,787 --> 03:31:31,588
trail in Highland Park. My

6601
03:31:31,588 --> 03:31:33,624
friend Rick for Ella took his

6602
03:31:33,624 --> 03:31:36,726
life on the trail and Memorial

6603
03:31:36,726 --> 03:31:37,528
Tree and rocket already been

6604
03:31:37,528 --> 03:31:40,528
approved by the centers are

6605
03:31:41,231 --> 03:31:41,999
commissions and the city Rick

6606
03:31:41,999 --> 03:31:42,699
was born and raised in center

6607
03:31:42,699 --> 03:31:46,200
isn't spent. Most of us live

6608
03:31:46,200 --> 03:31:48,105
in this community. And in how

6609
03:31:48,105 --> 03:31:49,390
were fired from young age he

6610
03:31:49,390 --> 03:31:50,574
carved in the trail and in the

6611
03:31:50,574 --> 03:31:53,210
main trails with youth groups,

6612
03:31:53,210 --> 03:31:53,911
friends and adults. The park

6613
03:31:53,911 --> 03:31:57,181
was his happy place who works

6614
03:31:57,181 --> 03:31:57,815
as a local contractor in the

6615
03:31:57,815 --> 03:31:59,216
area getting freeway wall

6616
03:31:59,216 --> 03:32:01,216
schools, public buildings,

6617
03:32:01,351 --> 03:32:03,153
private residents throughout

6618
03:32:03,153 --> 03:32:03,821
Santa Rosa. Many people

6619
03:32:03,821 --> 03:32:06,221
recovered. Howard Park knew

6620
03:32:06,657 --> 03:32:07,891
him as doing bike tricks from

6621
03:32:07,891 --> 03:32:10,291
Pharma says this petition

6622
03:32:10,995 --> 03:32:12,463
seeks to name the name trail

6623
03:32:12,463 --> 03:32:13,197
and memory of him because of

6624
03:32:13,197 --> 03:32:15,990
the lifelong connection to the

6625
03:32:15,990 --> 03:32:17,234
park in the community. Most of

6626
03:32:17,234 --> 03:32:18,636
all the communities supported

6627
03:32:18,636 --> 03:32:21,360
this. I'm moving number 2.

6628
03:32:23,700 --> 03:32:25,409
That has to reference to 5, 1,

6629
03:32:25,409 --> 03:32:25,943
point, 2, at least 1000 of the

6630
03:32:25,943 --> 03:32:27,943
Santa Rosa resident

6631
03:32:31,949 --> 03:32:32,917
signatures. And at with 50% or

6632
03:32:32,917 --> 03:32:35,319
more living within a half a

6633
03:32:35,319 --> 03:32:38,919
mile of the city. Nowhere in

6634
03:32:41,250 --> 03:32:41,725
that does it say that there's

6635
03:32:41,725 --> 03:32:43,725
1000 required signatures. And

6636
03:32:44,295 --> 03:32:44,962
in addition, an additional 500

6637
03:32:44,962 --> 03:32:47,331
the way it's worded and the

6638
03:32:47,331 --> 03:32:47,965
way I talked to this, the

6639
03:32:47,965 --> 03:32:50,365
staff and previous people

6640
03:32:51,335 --> 03:32:52,402
waiting for this for years, it

6641
03:32:52,402 --> 03:32:54,802
was 500 friend Sonoma County,

6642
03:32:55,206 --> 03:32:57,606
Santa Rosa residents and 500

6643
03:32:58,609 --> 03:33:00,778
from half a mile moving

6644
03:33:00,778 --> 03:33:02,130
further. The petition and

6645
03:33:02,130 --> 03:33:03,681
despair and see we submitted a

6646
03:33:03,681 --> 03:33:07,281
total of 8,000 in my mind and

6647
03:33:08,853 --> 03:33:09,720
it came back at 570 were Santa

6648
03:33:09,720 --> 03:33:12,720
Rosa residents and then they

6649
03:33:15,292 --> 03:33:15,959
counted 304.

6650
03:33:15,959 --> 03:33:16,560
>> Connie, thank you. Thank

6651
03:33:16,560 --> 03:33:17,695
you for coming to speak

6652
03:33:17,695 --> 03:33:18,396
tonight. I'm sure that our

6653
03:33:18,396 --> 03:33:20,598
staff will be willing to talk

6654
03:33:20,598 --> 03:33:21,299
to speak further with you in

6655
03:33:21,299 --> 03:33:24,899
the back. Moving on, then to

6656
03:33:34,110 --> 03:33:34,712
DeWayne Daniel.

6657
03:33:34,712 --> 03:33:37,949
>> Hello, my name is doing to

6658
03:33:37,949 --> 03:33:38,616
wit. I'm from Roseland. I come

6659
03:33:38,616 --> 03:33:42,216
today because I want to ask

6660
03:33:43,621 --> 03:33:45,656
you to put up some posters.

6661
03:33:45,656 --> 03:33:46,824
Prisoners of war missing in

6662
03:33:46,824 --> 03:33:50,424
Action Day, which is one month

6663
03:33:50,695 --> 03:33:52,930
away from today. It's next

6664
03:33:52,930 --> 03:33:54,666
month. It's a national day of

6665
03:33:54,666 --> 03:33:55,365
recognition and it's important

6666
03:33:55,365 --> 03:33:58,365
because America is always at

6667
03:34:01,390 --> 03:34:04,390
war. My entire lifetime. We've

6668
03:34:04,442 --> 03:34:07,442
or somewhere or another. We're

6669
03:34:07,946 --> 03:34:10,140
at war right now. It's not

6670
03:34:10,140 --> 03:34:11,115
something that's talked much

6671
03:34:11,115 --> 03:34:13,584
about, but we did a sneak

6672
03:34:13,584 --> 03:34:16,654
attack on a country. We killed

6673
03:34:16,654 --> 03:34:19,540
over 160 children. Think about

6674
03:34:21,125 --> 03:34:21,859
that. Pearl Harbor, a sneak

6675
03:34:21,859 --> 03:34:24,695
attack started World War 2 for

6676
03:34:24,695 --> 03:34:25,396
America. There's a lot of

6677
03:34:25,396 --> 03:34:27,465
things that go along with the

6678
03:34:27,465 --> 03:34:30,201
fact that there are prisoners

6679
03:34:30,201 --> 03:34:32,303
of war and missing in action.

6680
03:34:32,303 --> 03:34:33,238
Military members still

6681
03:34:33,238 --> 03:34:36,238
unaccounted for. We'd like to

6682
03:34:36,674 --> 03:34:37,776
get some posters up here and

6683
03:34:37,776 --> 03:34:41,120
get the city and the community

6684
03:34:41,120 --> 03:34:43,120
to understand that.

6685
03:34:44,215 --> 03:34:46,251
>> We believe U.S. Veterans

6686
03:34:46,251 --> 03:34:47,519
believe and the city's open

6687
03:34:47,519 --> 03:34:48,219
government ordinance. That

6688
03:34:48,219 --> 03:34:49,286
specifically stated you would

6689
03:34:49,286 --> 03:34:49,854
embrace a culture of open

6690
03:34:49,854 --> 03:34:51,854
government.

6691
03:34:52,590 --> 03:34:54,990
>> To ensure public trust.

6692
03:34:55,359 --> 03:34:57,194
>> engage the community.

6693
03:34:57,194 --> 03:34:58,829
>> Establish a system of

6694
03:34:58,829 --> 03:34:59,330
transparency, public

6695
03:34:59,330 --> 03:35:01,330
participation and

6696
03:35:02,566 --> 03:35:03,168
collaboration. We're hoping

6697
03:35:03,168 --> 03:35:04,869
that that's going to be

6698
03:35:04,869 --> 03:35:06,604
something that you really

6699
03:35:06,604 --> 03:35:08,639
delve into now that you talked

6700
03:35:08,639 --> 03:35:09,440
about these new plans, you

6701
03:35:09,440 --> 03:35:11,420
have what you're going to do

6702
03:35:11,420 --> 03:35:14,613
to us here in the city. I'll

6703
03:35:14,613 --> 03:35:15,247
leave you with this. You had a

6704
03:35:15,247 --> 03:35:17,848
policy that if you would

6705
03:35:17,848 --> 03:35:19,217
turned in a written comment.

6706
03:35:19,217 --> 03:35:22,217
You couldn't speak on that

6707
03:35:23,255 --> 03:35:25,357
same matter. And that meeting.

6708
03:35:25,357 --> 03:35:27,626
That's what you did. If Red

6709
03:35:27,626 --> 03:35:28,325
recently. But tonight, some

6710
03:35:28,325 --> 03:35:30,327
people and turned in comments

6711
03:35:30,327 --> 03:35:30,996
and then came and spoke again.

6712
03:35:30,996 --> 03:35:31,729
You need to have equity and

6713
03:35:31,729 --> 03:35:35,329
fairness and all you do. Thank

6714
03:35:35,667 --> 03:35:36,367
you. Kind.

6715
03:35:36,367 --> 03:35:38,767
>> Thank you Wayne. Actually,

6716
03:35:38,870 --> 03:35:40,720
address that point directly

6717
03:35:40,720 --> 03:35:41,873
because the city relies it

6718
03:35:41,873 --> 03:35:42,573
better. That interpretation of

6719
03:35:42,573 --> 03:35:44,109
policy regarding the written

6720
03:35:44,109 --> 03:35:46,111
versus spoken comments was an

6721
03:35:46,111 --> 03:35:48,130
heir. So we have fall

6722
03:35:48,130 --> 03:35:48,747
apologize to Fred and in fact,

6723
03:35:48,747 --> 03:35:51,516
called the the all-in buck for

6724
03:35:51,516 --> 03:35:52,150
real change. If you'd like,

6725
03:35:52,150 --> 03:35:52,818
you can submit public to

6726
03:35:52,818 --> 03:35:53,485
submit written both written

6727
03:35:53,485 --> 03:35:55,885
and verbal comments. That's

6728
03:35:56,540 --> 03:35:58,454
the explanation. Daniel, you

6729
03:36:00,659 --> 03:36:01,359
have that you have the floor.

6730
03:36:01,359 --> 03:36:02,194
>> First and foremost, I just

6731
03:36:02,194 --> 03:36:05,230
want to thank the city council

6732
03:36:05,230 --> 03:36:05,998
and the public for being here

6733
03:36:05,998 --> 03:36:07,633
today. I just wanted to

6734
03:36:07,633 --> 03:36:09,000
comment on specifically on the

6735
03:36:09,000 --> 03:36:12,537
creek that it was kind of a

6736
03:36:12,537 --> 03:36:15,537
good decision from a financial

6737
03:36:16,508 --> 03:36:17,642
standpoint, not the best. But

6738
03:36:17,642 --> 03:36:20,312
I also want to Vice-mayor for

6739
03:36:20,312 --> 03:36:21,980
working on Harper Avenue. It's

6740
03:36:21,980 --> 03:36:24,980
the first ever seen anything

6741
03:36:25,820 --> 03:36:28,554
being done there in a long

6742
03:36:28,554 --> 03:36:29,287
time. And then also on the

6743
03:36:29,287 --> 03:36:32,900
topic on technology as well. I

6744
03:36:32,900 --> 03:36:32,791
want to talk about

6745
03:36:32,791 --> 03:36:35,791
>> new policies that have not

6746
03:36:35,828 --> 03:36:36,595
been risen yet like

6747
03:36:36,595 --> 03:36:38,595
>> specifically for DoorDash

6748
03:36:39,531 --> 03:36:40,599
drivers, Lyft drivers like

6749
03:36:40,599 --> 03:36:41,533
Amazon.

6750
03:36:41,533 --> 03:36:43,533
>> Specifically setting aside

6751
03:36:44,636 --> 03:36:45,837
like apartments to follow

6752
03:36:45,837 --> 03:36:48,207
policies to allow those people

6753
03:36:48,207 --> 03:36:50,275
to deliver certain things or

6754
03:36:50,275 --> 03:36:53,875
even for the state or public

6755
03:36:54,880 --> 03:36:55,547
offices. I think making the

6756
03:36:55,547 --> 03:36:57,283
committee specifically for

6757
03:36:57,283 --> 03:36:59,283
innovation, innovative

6758
03:36:59,852 --> 03:37:03,452
policies to work on, do things

6759
03:37:03,555 --> 03:37:05,424
like Waymo's to bees past

6760
03:37:05,424 --> 03:37:07,626
specifically at a local

6761
03:37:07,626 --> 03:37:09,626
ordinance level recently.

6762
03:37:09,862 --> 03:37:11,697
Sacramento just pass a law

6763
03:37:11,697 --> 03:37:14,697
that allowed the increase of

6764
03:37:14,934 --> 03:37:15,634
Waymo's from San Francisco to

6765
03:37:15,634 --> 03:37:16,535
Sacramento. Obviously we

6766
03:37:16,535 --> 03:37:19,535
should pass at a local

6767
03:37:20,720 --> 03:37:21,806
ordinance. But looking at that

6768
03:37:21,806 --> 03:37:23,608
from a general specific point

6769
03:37:23,608 --> 03:37:26,345
of view, we should make a

6770
03:37:26,345 --> 03:37:27,246
committee focus on innovative

6771
03:37:27,246 --> 03:37:30,246
policies that allowed us to

6772
03:37:30,282 --> 03:37:33,185
look at things that are

6773
03:37:33,185 --> 03:37:34,353
happening in the current

6774
03:37:34,353 --> 03:37:34,987
society. But thank you so much

6775
03:37:34,987 --> 03:37:37,422
to the city Council, the

6776
03:37:37,422 --> 03:37:38,424
public today. Thank you.

6777
03:37:38,424 --> 03:37:39,525
>> Daniel, thanks for taking

6778
03:37:39,525 --> 03:37:40,259
time to come and speak. Are

6779
03:37:40,259 --> 03:37:40,993
there any other members of the

6780
03:37:40,993 --> 03:37:43,993
public in council chambers who

6781
03:37:45,831 --> 03:37:47,831
wish to speak?

6782
03:37:48,734 --> 03:37:49,367
>> Seeing none that we will go

6783
03:37:49,367 --> 03:37:51,337
online. MADAM House. Does

6784
03:37:51,337 --> 03:37:51,970
anybody online have their

6785
03:37:51,970 --> 03:37:53,439
hands raising? If you're

6786
03:37:53,439 --> 03:37:54,640
online press star 9 or raise

6787
03:37:54,640 --> 03:37:55,341
your hand?

6788
03:37:55,341 --> 03:37:57,509
>> Thank you, mayor. There's

6789
03:37:57,509 --> 03:37:58,443
no one on zoom, wishing to

6790
03:37:58,443 --> 03:37:59,145
speak.

6791
03:37:59,145 --> 03:38:01,380
>> Her facts. Alright, we'll

6792
03:38:01,380 --> 03:38:02,615
close public comment. And with

6793
03:38:02,615 --> 03:38:03,815
that, we'll conclude this. The

6794
03:38:03,815 --> 03:38:04,649
first public comment non

6795
03:38:04,649 --> 03:38:07,649
agenda matters. Bringing us to

6796
03:38:10,256 --> 03:38:11,324
then item 16.1. Which is our

6797
03:38:11,324 --> 03:38:13,493
public Let's see if the public

6798
03:38:13,493 --> 03:38:15,828
hearing is an ordinance or

6799
03:38:15,828 --> 03:38:16,996
introduction. The ordinance of

6800
03:38:16,996 --> 03:38:17,729
the city Council, the city of

6801
03:38:17,729 --> 03:38:20,199
Santa Rosa, amending the Santa

6802
03:38:20,199 --> 03:38:22,201
Rosa City code. Chapter 14

6803
03:38:22,201 --> 03:38:22,969
dash. 21 waterways,

6804
03:38:22,969 --> 03:38:23,736
regulations to include

6805
03:38:23,736 --> 03:38:25,736
definitions prohibitions on

6806
03:38:26,105 --> 03:38:28,105
irrigation of non-functional

6807
03:38:29,108 --> 03:38:29,942
turf, compliance deadlines and

6808
03:38:29,942 --> 03:38:30,643
enforcement provisions. I

6809
03:38:30,643 --> 03:38:34,243
think that's the end of that

6810
03:38:34,613 --> 03:38:36,549
long title. All right. This is

6811
03:38:36,549 --> 03:38:38,317
this is an exciting one given

6812
03:38:38,317 --> 03:38:39,218
to us by the state. If I'm not

6813
03:38:39,218 --> 03:38:41,218
mistaken, which emphasize

6814
03:38:43,756 --> 03:38:46,756
throughout. But Musk way for

6815
03:38:56,869 --> 03:38:57,970
yours.

6816
03:38:57,970 --> 03:38:59,806
>> All right. Good evening.

6817
03:38:59,806 --> 03:39:02,806
Mayor stopped vice mayor and

6818
03:39:02,976 --> 03:39:03,643
council members. My name is

6819
03:39:03,643 --> 03:39:07,243
Lisa Quail are and will be

6820
03:39:07,914 --> 03:39:08,615
walking you all through.

6821
03:39:08,615 --> 03:39:09,215
Spiciness specific revisions

6822
03:39:09,215 --> 03:39:11,550
to our city's waterways

6823
03:39:11,550 --> 03:39:13,253
regulation. That is indeed

6824
03:39:13,253 --> 03:39:13,919
required by state law,

6825
03:39:13,919 --> 03:39:15,919
specifically Assembly Bill.

6826
03:39:19,526 --> 03:39:21,526
15, 72. So California Assembly

6827
03:39:24,300 --> 03:39:26,990
Bill 15 72 was signed into law

6828
03:39:26,990 --> 03:39:27,400
2023 and it explicitly

6829
03:39:27,400 --> 03:39:29,102
prohibits the use of potable

6830
03:39:29,102 --> 03:39:32,102
water to irrigate what's been

6831
03:39:33,106 --> 03:39:34,400
termed non-functional turf a

6832
03:39:34,400 --> 03:39:34,641
host of property types,

6833
03:39:34,641 --> 03:39:36,641
including commercial

6834
03:39:38,444 --> 03:39:39,450
industrial institutional

6835
03:39:39,450 --> 03:39:40,547
Properties, Homeowners

6836
03:39:40,547 --> 03:39:42,547
Association, common areas.

6837
03:39:44,840 --> 03:39:44,684
There are some exemptions to

6838
03:39:44,684 --> 03:39:45,418
this prohibition which

6839
03:39:45,418 --> 03:39:47,818
includes irrigation that would

6840
03:39:48,622 --> 03:39:49,322
be allowed to preserve the

6841
03:39:49,322 --> 03:39:51,722
health of established trees.

6842
03:39:52,250 --> 03:39:53,226
Another perennial plantings

6843
03:39:53,226 --> 03:39:55,626
public parks where people

6844
03:39:56,596 --> 03:39:57,998
recreate on lawn would be

6845
03:39:57,998 --> 03:39:58,698
exempt cemeteries and in the

6846
03:39:58,698 --> 03:40:01,698
event of an immediate health

6847
03:40:01,901 --> 03:40:02,868
or safety need, you could have

6848
03:40:02,868 --> 03:40:05,868
the ability to keep irrigating

6849
03:40:06,873 --> 03:40:09,976
on social turf. So by JANUARY

6850
03:40:09,976 --> 03:40:10,977
of 2027, which is approaching

6851
03:40:10,977 --> 03:40:13,613
the city of Santa us updated

6852
03:40:13,613 --> 03:40:15,749
city code to be 15 72

6853
03:40:15,749 --> 03:40:18,485
compliance and we must notify

6854
03:40:18,485 --> 03:40:19,119
those impacted by the

6855
03:40:19,119 --> 03:40:19,786
regulation. This is a

6856
03:40:19,786 --> 03:40:22,186
requirement folded into the

6857
03:40:25,892 --> 03:40:27,260
regulation. So the purpose, as

6858
03:40:27,260 --> 03:40:30,860
you might suspect is really to

6859
03:40:33,900 --> 03:40:34,668
proactively help urban water

6860
03:40:34,668 --> 03:40:35,367
suppliers preserve our water

6861
03:40:35,367 --> 03:40:37,767
supply, especially during in

6862
03:40:39,539 --> 03:40:42,420
light of. You know, cyclical

6863
03:40:42,420 --> 03:40:42,742
periods of drought that

6864
03:40:42,742 --> 03:40:43,910
commonly experience up within

6865
03:40:43,910 --> 03:40:46,310
the region, water, scarcity,

6866
03:40:47,981 --> 03:40:48,915
et cetera. It also builds upon

6867
03:40:48,915 --> 03:40:50,617
previous conservation

6868
03:40:50,617 --> 03:40:53,170
legislation that passed sb

6869
03:40:54,254 --> 03:40:55,155
606. And ab 16. 68. That was a

6870
03:40:55,155 --> 03:40:57,155
2018 timeframe. When that

6871
03:40:57,757 --> 03:40:58,358
pass, it's referred to as

6872
03:40:58,358 --> 03:41:00,358
making conservation a

6873
03:41:00,493 --> 03:41:01,294
California way of life

6874
03:41:01,294 --> 03:41:03,294
regulation that regulation

6875
03:41:06,667 --> 03:41:07,901
had. Water efficiency targets

6876
03:41:07,901 --> 03:41:08,635
set for commercial industrial

6877
03:41:08,635 --> 03:41:11,350
institutional accounts for the

6878
03:41:11,438 --> 03:41:13,507
outdoor usage. So this. New

6879
03:41:13,507 --> 03:41:16,507
regulation kind of to give

6880
03:41:17,144 --> 03:41:20,744
backs off of that. The state

6881
03:41:20,880 --> 03:41:22,182
did formally acknowledge that

6882
03:41:22,182 --> 03:41:22,883
potable water use for non

6883
03:41:22,883 --> 03:41:24,651
functional turf is considered

6884
03:41:24,651 --> 03:41:27,510
wasteful and unsustainable. So

6885
03:41:28,188 --> 03:41:29,556
the ordinance that is being a

6886
03:41:29,556 --> 03:41:31,956
presented tonight during the

6887
03:41:33,461 --> 03:41:34,194
first reading is a way to

6888
03:41:34,194 --> 03:41:36,194
reviser waterways, regulations

6889
03:41:36,730 --> 03:41:37,431
so that we are, in fact, in

6890
03:41:37,431 --> 03:41:39,900
compliance with state law and

6891
03:41:39,900 --> 03:41:41,168
really trying to support the

6892
03:41:41,168 --> 03:41:42,503
long term goals, conservation

6893
03:41:42,503 --> 03:41:46,103
goals of the state and its

6894
03:41:47,708 --> 03:41:48,676
regulators. There is a

6895
03:41:48,676 --> 03:41:50,676
staggered compliance timeline

6896
03:41:51,312 --> 03:41:52,120
for different property types,

6897
03:41:52,120 --> 03:41:54,120
too terminated their

6898
03:41:54,148 --> 03:41:55,416
irrigation of non-functional

6899
03:41:55,416 --> 03:41:59,160
turf. So as soon as JANUARY,

6900
03:41:59,353 --> 03:42:01,255
first of 2027 Department of

6901
03:42:01,255 --> 03:42:01,989
General Services, local

6902
03:42:01,989 --> 03:42:02,723
government and public agencies

6903
03:42:02,723 --> 03:42:05,123
have to discontinue irrigation

6904
03:42:05,325 --> 03:42:07,725
of non-functional turf. That

6905
03:42:08,495 --> 03:42:10,895
also includes public schools

6906
03:42:12,990 --> 03:42:12,967
followed the next year by that

6907
03:42:12,967 --> 03:42:13,500
commercial industrial and

6908
03:42:13,500 --> 03:42:15,500
other institutional

6909
03:42:17,337 --> 03:42:19,737
properties. And then in 2029

6910
03:42:20,941 --> 03:42:21,675
H.O.A. Common areas come

6911
03:42:21,675 --> 03:42:22,743
coming service. Public service

6912
03:42:22,743 --> 03:42:25,679
developments, I believe is the

6913
03:42:25,679 --> 03:42:27,314
other term. They have to come

6914
03:42:27,314 --> 03:42:29,714
into compliance with a

6915
03:42:29,750 --> 03:42:31,218
regulation and then the 2031

6916
03:42:31,218 --> 03:42:31,852
deadline doesn't apply to save

6917
03:42:31,852 --> 03:42:33,621
Santa Rosa, but for local

6918
03:42:33,621 --> 03:42:34,355
governments that are in

6919
03:42:34,355 --> 03:42:35,156
disadvantaged communities,

6920
03:42:35,156 --> 03:42:38,156
they have an extended timeline

6921
03:42:39,393 --> 03:42:41,228
of for compliance. Just to

6922
03:42:41,228 --> 03:42:43,640
back up a little bit because

6923
03:42:43,640 --> 03:42:44,899
I'd mention the term and folks

6924
03:42:44,899 --> 03:42:46,667
MAY be asking what is

6925
03:42:46,667 --> 03:42:47,335
nonfunctional turf.

6926
03:42:47,335 --> 03:42:49,335
Essentially it's irrigated

6927
03:42:49,804 --> 03:42:51,639
lawn that is purely decorative

6928
03:42:51,639 --> 03:42:54,639
and not regularly used for

6929
03:42:54,775 --> 03:42:55,709
recreation or public or

6930
03:42:55,709 --> 03:42:56,878
community gatherings. So

6931
03:42:56,878 --> 03:42:57,611
feeling time you walk on the

6932
03:42:57,611 --> 03:43:01,211
turf is it then effectively it

6933
03:43:02,216 --> 03:43:02,884
is nonfunctional. These are

6934
03:43:02,884 --> 03:43:04,719
some examples of areas and

6935
03:43:04,719 --> 03:43:05,419
non-functional turf within

6936
03:43:05,419 --> 03:43:07,655
within the city of Santa Rosa

6937
03:43:07,655 --> 03:43:10,655
within our service area. A

6938
03:43:10,959 --> 03:43:11,792
couple of business park

6939
03:43:11,792 --> 03:43:14,792
examples where you see the

6940
03:43:14,862 --> 03:43:17,262
narrow strips there along

6941
03:43:18,299 --> 03:43:19,133
abutting the around business.

6942
03:43:19,133 --> 03:43:22,133
Park signage is pretty common

6943
03:43:22,203 --> 03:43:24,603
throughout our community. And

6944
03:43:26,240 --> 03:43:26,941
then the other example

6945
03:43:26,941 --> 03:43:27,575
suspected non-functional turf

6946
03:43:27,575 --> 03:43:31,645
at an H.O.A. One of their

6947
03:43:31,645 --> 03:43:32,313
common areas. And associate

6948
03:43:32,313 --> 03:43:35,313
deadlines are listed on the

6949
03:43:37,418 --> 03:43:39,420
site as well. The city of

6950
03:43:39,420 --> 03:43:40,621
Santa Rosa to be proactive. We

6951
03:43:40,621 --> 03:43:41,656
did do an internal screening

6952
03:43:41,656 --> 03:43:42,724
of all of our city and

6953
03:43:42,724 --> 03:43:43,391
irrigation accounts to see if

6954
03:43:43,391 --> 03:43:44,910
any of those were. In fact,

6955
03:43:44,910 --> 03:43:46,491
you're getting on functional

6956
03:43:48,696 --> 03:43:52,566
turf. The good news is is that

6957
03:43:52,566 --> 03:43:53,701
after detailed review in and

6958
03:43:53,701 --> 03:43:54,402
js and doing some selected

6959
03:43:54,402 --> 03:43:56,802
site, reconnaissance or water

6960
03:43:57,105 --> 03:43:57,839
use efficiency team found only

6961
03:43:57,839 --> 03:44:00,239
2 sites to have non-functional

6962
03:44:01,576 --> 03:44:02,543
turf. At the end of the day,

6963
03:44:02,543 --> 03:44:04,712
parks and recreational areas

6964
03:44:04,712 --> 03:44:05,880
where Dean excluded due to the

6965
03:44:05,880 --> 03:44:08,880
functional nature of the turf.

6966
03:44:09,170 --> 03:44:10,118
And then also they have. As

6967
03:44:10,118 --> 03:44:12,518
you know, several established

6968
03:44:12,520 --> 03:44:14,155
areas of established trees and

6969
03:44:14,155 --> 03:44:14,789
again, the turf can be

6970
03:44:14,789 --> 03:44:15,457
irrigated to preserve the

6971
03:44:15,457 --> 03:44:17,857
health of those established

6972
03:44:21,995 --> 03:44:24,366
trees. This is an example of

6973
03:44:24,366 --> 03:44:25,330
one of those facilities with

6974
03:44:25,330 --> 03:44:25,734
city-owned facilities with

6975
03:44:25,734 --> 03:44:28,134
non-functional turf. It's for

6976
03:44:29,137 --> 03:44:29,770
station number 3. Pretty small

6977
03:44:29,770 --> 03:44:30,472
patch, looking about 1000

6978
03:44:30,472 --> 03:44:32,872
square feet. A non-functional

6979
03:44:36,110 --> 03:44:38,813
turf. The fire. So they

6980
03:44:38,813 --> 03:44:40,810
decided that they wanted to

6981
03:44:40,810 --> 03:44:40,748
replace that non-functional to

6982
03:44:40,748 --> 03:44:41,883
not just discontinue the

6983
03:44:41,883 --> 03:44:42,450
irrigation to meet to come

6984
03:44:42,450 --> 03:44:44,450
into compliance with

6985
03:44:45,285 --> 03:44:46,688
regulation, but if they wanted

6986
03:44:46,688 --> 03:44:47,388
to install waters landscape

6987
03:44:47,388 --> 03:44:49,724
estimated cost of doing that

6988
03:44:49,724 --> 03:44:52,660
is about 7 to $11 per square

6989
03:44:52,660 --> 03:44:53,527
foot. So however, run our fire

6990
03:44:53,527 --> 03:44:55,527
station anywhere between 7

6991
03:44:56,598 --> 03:44:58,800
$11,000 to do that. Her for

6992
03:44:58,800 --> 03:44:59,701
turf replacement. Just as a

6993
03:44:59,701 --> 03:45:01,603
side note, we do have a cash

6994
03:45:01,603 --> 03:45:02,337
for grass rebate program

6995
03:45:02,337 --> 03:45:04,239
that's administered out of the

6996
03:45:04,239 --> 03:45:05,674
water. Use efficiency section

6997
03:45:05,674 --> 03:45:07,642
that could offset that cost

6998
03:45:07,642 --> 03:45:10,642
about $1000 if they were get

6999
03:45:12,280 --> 03:45:14,680
preapproved machine likely it.

7000
03:45:16,851 --> 03:45:17,486
So we are very aware that the

7001
03:45:17,486 --> 03:45:20,486
public might be a little

7002
03:45:20,522 --> 03:45:21,189
confused with this regulation.

7003
03:45:21,189 --> 03:45:24,189
And so we have a

7004
03:45:24,259 --> 03:45:25,560
communications plan in place.

7005
03:45:25,560 --> 03:45:29,160
We are obligated by law to

7006
03:45:29,697 --> 03:45:30,432
notify affected I believe

7007
03:45:30,432 --> 03:45:31,990
postage was put on that first

7008
03:45:31,990 --> 03:45:33,990
batch notification letters

7009
03:45:34,336 --> 03:45:36,404
this afternoon. Should hit

7010
03:45:36,404 --> 03:45:40,400
mailboxes by the end of the

7011
03:45:40,609 --> 03:45:41,243
week. We so all all affected

7012
03:45:41,243 --> 03:45:43,643
accounts will be notified

7013
03:45:44,779 --> 03:45:46,648
restarting the process. Now we

7014
03:45:46,648 --> 03:45:47,783
have some water, smart branded

7015
03:45:47,783 --> 03:45:48,750
fact sheets in guidance

7016
03:45:48,750 --> 03:45:51,750
documents which will live on

7017
03:45:53,880 --> 03:45:55,857
our city website, which is.

7018
03:45:55,857 --> 03:45:56,592
Presented here on the Www City

7019
03:45:56,592 --> 03:45:58,526
Sr City Dot org for its last 4

7020
03:45:58,526 --> 03:46:02,126
to slash in Ft. We've also

7021
03:46:02,397 --> 03:46:03,465
designated an email address

7022
03:46:03,465 --> 03:46:04,599
where customers can send us

7023
03:46:04,599 --> 03:46:05,300
questions and the water

7024
03:46:05,300 --> 03:46:07,700
sufficiency team will respond

7025
03:46:09,400 --> 03:46:10,372
in a timely manner. To help

7026
03:46:10,372 --> 03:46:11,907
demystify the regulation,

7027
03:46:11,907 --> 03:46:12,875
provide some guidance, offer

7028
03:46:12,875 --> 03:46:15,275
some resources and for

7029
03:46:16,745 --> 03:46:17,379
commercial landscapes for to

7030
03:46:17,379 --> 03:46:20,979
you know, a lot of hearts

7031
03:46:22,685 --> 03:46:23,285
keeps. Gravel, other things

7032
03:46:23,285 --> 03:46:24,190
that could potentially

7033
03:46:24,190 --> 03:46:27,190
exacerbate the Heat island. We

7034
03:46:27,488 --> 03:46:28,357
would like. We are working on

7035
03:46:28,357 --> 03:46:30,159
some resources to encourage

7036
03:46:30,159 --> 03:46:32,861
them to replace if there going

7037
03:46:32,861 --> 03:46:36,461
to replace the turf. To, you

7038
03:46:37,660 --> 03:46:38,834
know, keep it green. And do

7039
03:46:38,834 --> 03:46:41,834
you do that with efficient

7040
03:46:44,206 --> 03:46:44,840
irrigation and mind? As I

7041
03:46:44,840 --> 03:46:47,240
mentioned, the water use

7042
03:46:47,309 --> 03:46:48,177
efficiency team. We do have

7043
03:46:48,177 --> 03:46:48,744
resources to support our

7044
03:46:48,744 --> 03:46:49,445
commercial industrial

7045
03:46:49,445 --> 03:46:51,845
institutional counts as well

7046
03:46:54,149 --> 03:46:55,818
as ways. Not just again, meet

7047
03:46:55,818 --> 03:46:56,452
the requirement of the

7048
03:46:56,452 --> 03:46:58,452
regulation to discontinue

7049
03:46:59,722 --> 03:47:00,455
irrigation, but 2 maintain a

7050
03:47:00,455 --> 03:47:01,256
static Lee pleasing landscapes

7051
03:47:01,256 --> 03:47:04,256
or cash for grass program

7052
03:47:05,895 --> 03:47:08,295
would. Support that outcome

7053
03:47:09,765 --> 03:47:10,699
rate of keeping our city

7054
03:47:10,699 --> 03:47:12,601
beautiful. We will for

7055
03:47:12,601 --> 03:47:15,100
commercial counts. We rebate

7056
03:47:15,438 --> 03:47:17,139
for every square foot of turf

7057
03:47:17,139 --> 03:47:17,807
removed. I mean, our design

7058
03:47:17,807 --> 03:47:20,807
criteria and a little water

7059
03:47:21,409 --> 03:47:22,545
use landscape goes We kept we

7060
03:47:22,545 --> 03:47:23,245
will revisit rebate them at a

7061
03:47:23,245 --> 03:47:25,246
dollar per square foot with a

7062
03:47:25,246 --> 03:47:26,949
cap of $10,000 annually per

7063
03:47:26,949 --> 03:47:29,949
meter. We also have efficient

7064
03:47:31,554 --> 03:47:32,788
irrigation rebates to you

7065
03:47:32,788 --> 03:47:35,188
know, at $1000 lifetime year.

7066
03:47:35,290 --> 03:47:38,290
So that includes a hardware

7067
03:47:38,427 --> 03:47:39,950
and things like smart

7068
03:47:39,950 --> 03:47:41,950
irrigation controllers for

7069
03:47:43,466 --> 03:47:45,866
commercial accounts. So this

7070
03:47:46,200 --> 03:47:49,602
brings me now action item for

7071
03:47:49,972 --> 03:47:50,639
this evening, which is.

7072
03:47:50,639 --> 03:47:51,307
Introducing an ordinance to

7073
03:47:51,307 --> 03:47:53,707
revise the city's waterways

7074
03:47:54,900 --> 03:47:57,900
regulation. And city of Santa

7075
03:47:58,114 --> 03:47:59,615
Rosa did adopt the codified or

7076
03:47:59,615 --> 03:48:00,383
waterways regulations under

7077
03:48:00,383 --> 03:48:02,783
City Code chapter 14 dash. 21

7078
03:48:04,787 --> 03:48:05,688
in 1999. As the name implies,

7079
03:48:05,688 --> 03:48:09,580
the purpose was to promote the

7080
03:48:09,580 --> 03:48:10,426
efficient use of potable and

7081
03:48:10,426 --> 03:48:11,930
recycled water by prohibiting

7082
03:48:11,930 --> 03:48:13,493
water uses which constitute

7083
03:48:15,631 --> 03:48:16,466
water waste. And folded into

7084
03:48:16,466 --> 03:48:18,600
that regulation is an

7085
03:48:18,600 --> 03:48:20,969
enforcement mechanism where we

7086
03:48:20,969 --> 03:48:23,969
can for violators of our

7087
03:48:25,740 --> 03:48:25,775
waterways, regulation. We have

7088
03:48:25,775 --> 03:48:27,243
you know, process for issuing

7089
03:48:27,243 --> 03:48:29,243
written warnings, then

7090
03:48:29,946 --> 03:48:31,946
followed by administrative

7091
03:48:32,150 --> 03:48:35,150
fines, escalate the longer the

7092
03:48:35,840 --> 03:48:36,285
violation persists and then

7093
03:48:36,285 --> 03:48:37,420
ultimately with Director Berks

7094
03:48:37,420 --> 03:48:40,420
approval, we could end up

7095
03:48:40,689 --> 03:48:41,791
discontinuing water service.

7096
03:48:41,791 --> 03:48:44,791
Do everything we can to

7097
03:48:44,827 --> 03:48:45,561
prevent that outcome. But it

7098
03:48:45,561 --> 03:48:46,162
is enforcement measure that we

7099
03:48:46,162 --> 03:48:49,162
could end up taking for

7100
03:48:51,767 --> 03:48:53,569
violators. So the waterways,

7101
03:48:53,569 --> 03:48:54,504
regulation included as

7102
03:48:54,504 --> 03:48:56,904
attachment to agenda package

7103
03:48:59,742 --> 03:49:00,477
has the proposed lines. The

7104
03:49:00,477 --> 03:49:02,679
ordinance has a proposed highs

7105
03:49:02,679 --> 03:49:05,790
to the waterways, regulation

7106
03:49:06,649 --> 03:49:07,917
in summary, it includes 13 new

7107
03:49:07,917 --> 03:49:09,352
definitions taken verbatim

7108
03:49:09,352 --> 03:49:12,870
from statute from the new

7109
03:49:12,870 --> 03:49:14,457
regulation. It's simply to to

7110
03:49:14,457 --> 03:49:15,191
clarify terms that are listed

7111
03:49:15,191 --> 03:49:15,825
in the prohibition. Mike, what

7112
03:49:15,825 --> 03:49:18,895
is a common area? What is

7113
03:49:18,895 --> 03:49:19,528
nonfunctional turf? What is

7114
03:49:19,528 --> 03:49:21,928
functional turf? What our

7115
03:49:23,700 --> 03:49:25,700
common interest developments.

7116
03:49:25,735 --> 03:49:28,638
We also clarified waterways to

7117
03:49:28,638 --> 03:49:32,750
is and or sorry, we included a

7118
03:49:32,750 --> 03:49:32,709
new reference to water waste

7119
03:49:32,709 --> 03:49:34,709
citing potable irrigation

7120
03:49:36,446 --> 03:49:37,847
non-functional turf. We took

7121
03:49:37,847 --> 03:49:38,715
verbatim from statute, the

7122
03:49:38,715 --> 03:49:41,115
prohibition and inserted that

7123
03:49:42,152 --> 03:49:42,886
as a new prohibition and our

7124
03:49:42,886 --> 03:49:45,286
waterways regulation. And then

7125
03:49:45,355 --> 03:49:46,423
we just referenced the new

7126
03:49:46,423 --> 03:49:48,823
prohibition in our enforcement

7127
03:49:49,492 --> 03:49:51,628
section of the regulation,

7128
03:49:51,628 --> 03:49:53,628
enforcement, mechanized

7129
03:49:53,797 --> 03:49:55,980
mechanism has not been

7130
03:49:55,980 --> 03:49:58,635
modified. And I just wanted to

7131
03:49:58,635 --> 03:49:59,503
note that by using the exact

7132
03:49:59,503 --> 03:50:01,903
language in the regulation

7133
03:50:02,371 --> 03:50:04,675
from California water code. We

7134
03:50:04,675 --> 03:50:05,509
really are trying to reduce

7135
03:50:05,509 --> 03:50:07,377
confusion for businesses,

7136
03:50:07,377 --> 03:50:09,377
landscape, landscapers,

7137
03:50:09,411 --> 03:50:10,514
property managers and others

7138
03:50:10,514 --> 03:50:13,514
that work in multiple service

7139
03:50:15,452 --> 03:50:16,319
areas across the region. As

7140
03:50:16,319 --> 03:50:17,200
far as budget impacts Co

7141
03:50:17,200 --> 03:50:19,200
adoption. This ordinance

7142
03:50:19,550 --> 03:50:22,550
really has no immediate budget

7143
03:50:22,993 --> 03:50:24,194
impact. I wanted to note that

7144
03:50:24,194 --> 03:50:25,729
customers that have that fall

7145
03:50:25,729 --> 03:50:28,129
under this regulation that

7146
03:50:28,165 --> 03:50:30,565
have more than 5,000 Square

7147
03:50:31,100 --> 03:50:32,736
feet of irrigated landscape

7148
03:50:32,736 --> 03:50:33,437
have to self certified

7149
03:50:33,437 --> 03:50:37,370
directly to the state and not

7150
03:50:37,140 --> 03:50:37,874
the city of Santa Rosa, which

7151
03:50:37,874 --> 03:50:40,244
means that that administrative

7152
03:50:40,244 --> 03:50:40,910
burden doesn't fall on our

7153
03:50:40,910 --> 03:50:43,910
shoulders and then we dealt

7154
03:50:45,482 --> 03:50:46,116
with at the state level.

7155
03:50:46,116 --> 03:50:47,618
Potential long-term costs

7156
03:50:47,618 --> 03:50:48,786
really folded into the

7157
03:50:48,786 --> 03:50:52,386
customer service is we want a

7158
03:50:52,589 --> 03:50:54,591
already provides. We? You

7159
03:50:54,591 --> 03:50:56,991
know, offer complant support

7160
03:50:57,560 --> 03:50:59,560
for other conservation

7161
03:50:59,663 --> 03:51:00,364
regulations. We enforce the

7162
03:51:00,364 --> 03:51:01,310
waterways, regulation and we

7163
03:51:01,310 --> 03:51:04,310
monitor some of those sites

7164
03:51:04,968 --> 03:51:06,303
that are under inforcement.

7165
03:51:06,303 --> 03:51:07,970
Any future funding requests

7166
03:51:07,970 --> 03:51:08,739
will follow the normal

7167
03:51:08,739 --> 03:51:10,739
budgetary approval process

7168
03:51:11,374 --> 03:51:12,420
would be addressed at the time

7169
03:51:12,420 --> 03:51:15,420
if there were any increases

7170
03:51:15,913 --> 03:51:18,848
that were needed. So the

7171
03:51:18,848 --> 03:51:20,517
timeline for approval is

7172
03:51:20,517 --> 03:51:24,117
listed on the screen We are

7173
03:51:24,555 --> 03:51:25,255
through the first 2 items. Bp

7174
03:51:25,255 --> 03:51:28,255
you did make a recommendation

7175
03:51:29,526 --> 03:51:32,429
to council on JUNE 18th

7176
03:51:32,429 --> 03:51:34,829
approve the ordinance. So

7177
03:51:35,866 --> 03:51:36,600
tonight is AUGUST 18 through

7178
03:51:36,600 --> 03:51:37,267
here City Council to introduce

7179
03:51:37,267 --> 03:51:39,837
ordinance and host a public

7180
03:51:39,837 --> 03:51:42,237
hearing. And take public

7181
03:51:43,607 --> 03:51:45,750
comments regarding the changes

7182
03:51:45,750 --> 03:51:46,743
if council moves to adopt the

7183
03:51:46,743 --> 03:51:49,143
ordinance. A second reading

7184
03:51:50,114 --> 03:51:52,817
would occur on SEPTEMBER 15th

7185
03:51:52,817 --> 03:51:54,652
and then the proposed

7186
03:51:54,652 --> 03:51:55,251
effective date of the new code

7187
03:51:55,251 --> 03:51:55,919
change would happen

7188
03:51:55,919 --> 03:51:57,888
approximately OCTOBER 16th.

7189
03:51:57,888 --> 03:52:00,288
That's 31 days. Following the

7190
03:52:03,527 --> 03:52:04,494
second reading. So I'll end

7191
03:52:04,494 --> 03:52:06,894
with the formal recommendation

7192
03:52:09,233 --> 03:52:09,967
to council tonight. The Public

7193
03:52:09,967 --> 03:52:11,268
Utilities and Santa Rosa Water

7194
03:52:11,268 --> 03:52:13,268
recommended the council

7195
03:52:13,337 --> 03:52:16,337
approve the first reading and

7196
03:52:16,840 --> 03:52:17,842
introduce an ordinance

7197
03:52:17,842 --> 03:52:20,842
endings, Santa Rosa City Code

7198
03:52:22,279 --> 03:52:24,279
chapter 14 dash. 21 water

7199
03:52:25,820 --> 03:52:26,917
waste regulations to include

7200
03:52:26,917 --> 03:52:27,851
clarifying definitions, a

7201
03:52:27,851 --> 03:52:29,587
prohibition for irrigating

7202
03:52:29,587 --> 03:52:31,555
non-functional turf with

7203
03:52:31,555 --> 03:52:33,555
potable water compliance

7204
03:52:33,557 --> 03:52:35,492
deadlines per affected

7205
03:52:35,492 --> 03:52:37,492
property type enforcement

7206
03:52:37,962 --> 03:52:38,662
provisions and make other

7207
03:52:38,662 --> 03:52:40,464
clarifying changes. This item

7208
03:52:40,464 --> 03:52:43,464
has no impact on current

7209
03:52:44,369 --> 03:52:46,337
fiscal year budget. And at

7210
03:52:46,337 --> 03:52:47,939
this time I would be happy to

7211
03:52:47,939 --> 03:52:50,939
field any questions from the

7212
03:52:51,676 --> 03:52:52,777
mayor, vice mayor and council.

7213
03:52:52,777 --> 03:52:53,377
Lisa, thank you very much. I'm

7214
03:52:53,377 --> 03:52:55,412
sure you can sense the

7215
03:52:55,412 --> 03:52:57,448
enthusiasm from from the

7216
03:52:57,448 --> 03:52:58,316
>> Thank you. Thank you for

7217
03:52:58,316 --> 03:52:59,160
your presentation. All right,

7218
03:52:59,160 --> 03:53:02,160
friends. What questions do we

7219
03:53:05,757 --> 03:53:06,490
have? It's been wheeless.

7220
03:53:06,490 --> 03:53:07,158
>> Thank you, Mayor. Thank you

7221
03:53:07,158 --> 03:53:08,526
for the presentation. I was

7222
03:53:08,526 --> 03:53:10,926
just wondering them because

7223
03:53:11,729 --> 03:53:12,429
we're a I know we have to do

7224
03:53:12,429 --> 03:53:14,665
this. It sounds like this is

7225
03:53:14,665 --> 03:53:15,667
something they have to do. So

7226
03:53:15,667 --> 03:53:16,333
there's no really debate

7227
03:53:16,333 --> 03:53:19,333
around that. But I'm just

7228
03:53:19,570 --> 03:53:20,204
wondering since this is.

7229
03:53:20,204 --> 03:53:22,604
Relatively new home. And

7230
03:53:23,675 --> 03:53:25,643
during one sits effective,

7231
03:53:25,643 --> 03:53:28,646
which I guess is up tober

7232
03:53:28,646 --> 03:53:29,847
16th. Is there any kind of

7233
03:53:29,847 --> 03:53:31,683
grace period for the property

7234
03:53:31,683 --> 03:53:33,518
owners or any anybody that

7235
03:53:33,518 --> 03:53:34,152
might? I'm just wondering

7236
03:53:34,152 --> 03:53:36,588
people are going to start

7237
03:53:36,588 --> 03:53:38,322
getting code enforcement right

7238
03:53:38,322 --> 03:53:40,225
away or is there a grace

7239
03:53:40,225 --> 03:53:40,925
period? Weather understanding

7240
03:53:40,925 --> 03:53:43,325
what the non-functional turf

7241
03:53:44,762 --> 03:53:48,362
isn't all that. Thank you for

7242
03:53:49,667 --> 03:53:52,670
your question. Just revisit.

7243
03:53:53,138 --> 03:53:55,407
There is staggered compliance

7244
03:53:55,407 --> 03:53:56,700
timeline. So the first

7245
03:53:56,700 --> 03:53:56,908
property types that are

7246
03:53:56,908 --> 03:53:59,308
affected or local government

7247
03:53:59,844 --> 03:54:02,747
public schools and I just

7248
03:54:02,747 --> 03:54:03,481
wanted to reiterate to comply.

7249
03:54:03,481 --> 03:54:07,681
They just have to turn off the

7250
03:54:08,819 --> 03:54:10,622
irrigation. So. You know, it's

7251
03:54:10,622 --> 03:54:11,556
it's sort of a simple

7252
03:54:11,556 --> 03:54:12,223
compliance measure. We do

7253
03:54:12,223 --> 03:54:13,725
understand that that could

7254
03:54:13,725 --> 03:54:14,392
lead to some areas turning

7255
03:54:14,392 --> 03:54:16,961
going from green to Brown,

7256
03:54:16,961 --> 03:54:19,961
which folks in community might

7257
03:54:21,366 --> 03:54:23,766
not like so much.

7258
03:54:24,569 --> 03:54:25,670
>> The the state does have

7259
03:54:25,670 --> 03:54:26,571
there's a hardship provision

7260
03:54:26,571 --> 03:54:30,171
that was writ written into the

7261
03:54:30,742 --> 03:54:31,877
regulation that does allow.

7262
03:54:31,877 --> 03:54:33,779
>> Impacted properties to

7263
03:54:33,779 --> 03:54:34,445
appeal to the state and ask

7264
03:54:34,445 --> 03:54:35,112
for a three-year extension.

7265
03:54:35,112 --> 03:54:38,112
They do have to demonstrate

7266
03:54:42,320 --> 03:54:44,255
some type of economic hardship

7267
03:54:44,255 --> 03:54:44,989
there wasn't. But a number of

7268
03:54:44,989 --> 03:54:46,390
qualifying hardship categories

7269
03:54:46,390 --> 03:54:47,920
that they could appeal to the

7270
03:54:47,920 --> 03:54:47,792
state on. So those appeals go

7271
03:54:47,792 --> 03:54:50,195
directly to the state, not to

7272
03:54:50,195 --> 03:54:53,899
the city of Santa Rosa and the

7273
03:54:53,899 --> 03:54:56,701
state this time has not

7274
03:54:56,701 --> 03:54:58,603
released information about how

7275
03:54:58,603 --> 03:55:00,672
to formally go about doing

7276
03:55:00,672 --> 03:55:02,607
that. So we're sort of waiting

7277
03:55:02,607 --> 03:55:05,343
to see when the information

7278
03:55:05,343 --> 03:55:06,410
will be released. So we can

7279
03:55:06,410 --> 03:55:07,346
direct customers to that

7280
03:55:07,346 --> 03:55:09,746
process to request hardship

7281
03:55:13,318 --> 03:55:13,919
extension. Ok? Thank you.

7282
03:55:13,919 --> 03:55:16,319
>> Thank you. Any other

7283
03:55:18,323 --> 03:55:19,240
questions? All right. What a

7284
03:55:19,240 --> 03:55:19,724
public comment are there any

7285
03:55:19,724 --> 03:55:20,359
members of the public here in

7286
03:55:20,359 --> 03:55:22,759
council chambers wish to

7287
03:55:24,829 --> 03:55:25,964
comment? Seeing none. We'll go

7288
03:55:25,964 --> 03:55:27,266
online. MADAM Zuma, host, is

7289
03:55:27,266 --> 03:55:29,401
anybody online have their

7290
03:55:29,401 --> 03:55:32,401
hands raised as press star 9.

7291
03:55:33,338 --> 03:55:34,390
>> They do not. Mayor.

7292
03:55:34,390 --> 03:55:34,706
>> All right. I confess I'm a

7293
03:55:34,706 --> 03:55:35,440
little surprised when give

7294
03:55:35,440 --> 03:55:39,400
some comment on this item, MR.

7295
03:55:42,948 --> 03:55:43,615
Rogers. Good question. That's

7296
03:55:43,615 --> 03:55:46,615
right. We're doing a public

7297
03:55:47,653 --> 03:55:48,287
hearing our way. All right. So

7298
03:55:48,287 --> 03:55:49,788
Karen, hoping the public

7299
03:55:49,788 --> 03:55:50,823
hearing back to back to

7300
03:55:50,823 --> 03:55:51,523
council chambers any made any

7301
03:55:51,523 --> 03:55:52,157
members. The public here was

7302
03:55:52,157 --> 03:55:54,557
to participate in public

7303
03:55:55,928 --> 03:55:57,596
hearing. There are non I back

7304
03:55:57,596 --> 03:56:00,199
to back to admitting that was

7305
03:56:00,199 --> 03:56:01,467
alert no colors on zoom.

7306
03:56:01,467 --> 03:56:02,134
>> Then we're closing the

7307
03:56:02,134 --> 03:56:03,836
public hearing. Thank you.

7308
03:56:03,836 --> 03:56:04,503
Thank you. I wasn't I wasn't

7309
03:56:04,503 --> 03:56:07,503
paying All right. Any final

7310
03:56:08,640 --> 03:56:09,374
comments from the dais? All

7311
03:56:09,374 --> 03:56:10,743
right. You have that. You have

7312
03:56:10,743 --> 03:56:11,577
the difficult duty tonight.

7313
03:56:11,577 --> 03:56:12,610
Reset bringing is before

7314
03:56:12,610 --> 03:56:13,812
especially after a long day.

7315
03:56:13,812 --> 03:56:15,580
So thank Thank you. Thank you

7316
03:56:15,580 --> 03:56:17,249
for getting him for bringing

7317
03:56:17,249 --> 03:56:17,949
us into line with state

7318
03:56:17,949 --> 03:56:18,617
regulations. It was something

7319
03:56:18,617 --> 03:56:19,318
that had to be done. Thank

7320
03:56:19,318 --> 03:56:20,919
you. Senator is a water team.

7321
03:56:20,919 --> 03:56:24,519
We will comply even if it's

7322
03:56:25,457 --> 03:56:26,759
half heartedly. All right. I'm

7323
03:56:26,759 --> 03:56:27,459
looking for a motion from

7324
03:56:27,459 --> 03:56:29,928
let's see who ms been? Willis

7325
03:56:29,928 --> 03:56:32,928
yours. Looking make make make

7326
03:56:34,766 --> 03:56:35,434
a motion for us. Okay.

7327
03:56:35,434 --> 03:56:36,102
>> I moved to approved the

7328
03:56:36,102 --> 03:56:36,802
first reading and introduce

7329
03:56:36,802 --> 03:56:39,802
the ordinance as presented by

7330
03:56:40,739 --> 03:56:41,440
staff. Second. It.

7331
03:56:41,440 --> 03:56:42,140
>> We have a motion and a

7332
03:56:42,140 --> 03:56:44,509
second. MADAM City clerk can

7333
03:56:44,509 --> 03:56:44,843
call the vote whenever you're

7334
03:56:44,843 --> 03:56:46,450
ready.

7335
03:56:46,450 --> 03:56:46,645
>> Thank you, Mayor

7336
03:56:46,645 --> 03:56:48,580
Councilmember Rogers, I

7337
03:56:48,580 --> 03:56:50,580
Councilmember Macdonald, I

7338
03:56:50,615 --> 03:56:51,616
councilmember Fleming

7339
03:56:51,616 --> 03:56:52,685
Councilmember Ben well oath.

7340
03:56:52,685 --> 03:56:54,685
Yes, Councilmember Alvarez,

7341
03:56:55,387 --> 03:56:56,550
Vice Cookie. I step yes. Let

7342
03:56:56,550 --> 03:56:58,424
the record show this passes

7343
03:56:58,424 --> 03:56:59,625
unanimously.

7344
03:56:59,625 --> 03:57:00,326
>> All right. Thank you and

7345
03:57:00,326 --> 03:57:02,528
thank and thank you again for

7346
03:57:02,528 --> 03:57:03,895
for the presentation. Thank

7347
03:57:03,895 --> 03:57:06,465
you. Move on to our last item

7348
03:57:06,465 --> 03:57:07,466
of the evening item. 16 point

7349
03:57:07,466 --> 03:57:09,268
to our public hearing on the

7350
03:57:09,268 --> 03:57:10,469
placement of annual storm

7351
03:57:10,469 --> 03:57:12,438
water enterprises charges on

7352
03:57:12,438 --> 03:57:14,540
the Sonoma County property tax

7353
03:57:14,540 --> 03:57:15,574
roll. All right. This is gonna

7354
03:57:15,574 --> 03:57:16,275
be a good awake again.

7355
03:57:16,275 --> 03:57:19,275
Jennifer, are you doing this

7356
03:57:22,949 --> 03:57:26,549
one? All right, Nick. Are all

7357
03:57:34,627 --> 03:57:35,260
yours? State staff is making

7358
03:57:35,260 --> 03:57:35,962
way for the door for the

7359
03:57:35,962 --> 03:57:38,362
doors. Peter, you're walking

7360
03:57:40,733 --> 03:57:41,634
out on this one. Shame on you,

7361
03:57:41,634 --> 03:57:44,634
Nick. We're here. We're here.

7362
03:57:46,380 --> 03:57:47,239
We're paying attention.

7363
03:57:47,239 --> 03:57:49,639
>> Thank you, mayor and

7364
03:57:49,842 --> 03:57:50,443
members of council. My name is

7365
03:57:50,443 --> 03:57:51,144
Nick Lanham, a research

7366
03:57:51,144 --> 03:57:53,544
program coordinator with the

7367
03:57:53,946 --> 03:57:54,947
storm water creeks team. Stay.

7368
03:57:54,947 --> 03:57:55,782
I mean, the over the placement

7369
03:57:55,782 --> 03:57:56,449
of annual storm water and or

7370
03:57:56,449 --> 03:57:59,449
press charges on the Sonoma

7371
03:57:59,752 --> 03:58:02,752
County property tax roll. Just

7372
03:58:03,723 --> 03:58:04,356
a very brief enterprises

7373
03:58:04,356 --> 03:58:05,570
create by council and of

7374
03:58:05,570 --> 03:58:08,570
course, title 16 of the city

7375
03:58:09,362 --> 03:58:10,196
code in 1996, provides funding

7376
03:58:10,196 --> 03:58:12,298
for the implementation of

7377
03:58:12,298 --> 03:58:13,299
cities and pds permit and

7378
03:58:13,299 --> 03:58:15,699
funds activities like creek

7379
03:58:16,436 --> 03:58:17,135
restoration, Stewardship, foot

7380
03:58:17,135 --> 03:58:19,135
protection, public education,

7381
03:58:21,107 --> 03:58:23,760
other activities as well. The

7382
03:58:23,760 --> 03:58:25,440
calculate assessment is based

7383
03:58:25,440 --> 03:58:27,880
on nie er you equivalent

7384
03:58:27,880 --> 03:58:28,548
residential unit and considers

7385
03:58:28,548 --> 03:58:30,948
parcel amount of impervious

7386
03:58:30,950 --> 03:58:34,550
surface and land use for each

7387
03:58:34,821 --> 03:58:35,922
parcel. Current year. Ufi is

7388
03:58:35,922 --> 03:58:36,856
$43.52. And that was approved

7389
03:58:36,856 --> 03:58:39,256
by council during the 2026

7390
03:58:41,995 --> 03:58:43,995
2027 budget process. To

7391
03:58:44,197 --> 03:58:45,164
simplify process for property

7392
03:58:45,164 --> 03:58:46,320
owners is requested that these

7393
03:58:46,320 --> 03:58:46,733
charges be id on the Sonoma

7394
03:58:46,733 --> 03:58:49,733
County property tax from the

7395
03:58:50,269 --> 03:58:51,237
city's behalf. These charges

7396
03:58:51,237 --> 03:58:52,720
been collected annually on

7397
03:58:52,720 --> 03:58:52,739
that actual since they

7398
03:58:52,739 --> 03:58:55,139
established in SEPTEMBER of

7399
03:58:56,675 --> 03:58:57,310
1996. It's in the best

7400
03:58:57,310 --> 03:58:59,646
interest of the city that

7401
03:58:59,646 --> 03:59:00,680
these parcels not built by the

7402
03:59:00,680 --> 03:59:02,882
county due to a minimum charge

7403
03:59:02,882 --> 03:59:03,583
of $10 and or parcels with

7404
03:59:03,583 --> 03:59:05,983
known incorrect ownership be

7405
03:59:06,853 --> 03:59:08,540
exempt from these buildings.

7406
03:59:08,540 --> 03:59:08,654
Any charges not collected will

7407
03:59:08,654 --> 03:59:11,540
not affect other parcel

7408
03:59:13,360 --> 03:59:14,260
charges. Today's public

7409
03:59:14,260 --> 03:59:14,761
hearing in accordance with

7410
03:59:14,761 --> 03:59:15,328
title 16 of the city code will

7411
03:59:15,328 --> 03:59:17,328
adopt the stormwater

7412
03:59:17,397 --> 03:59:19,397
Enterprise charge report

7413
03:59:19,666 --> 03:59:20,600
approved placing the charges

7414
03:59:20,600 --> 03:59:21,234
on the county tax bill for

7415
03:59:21,234 --> 03:59:21,868
collection and allow the

7416
03:59:21,868 --> 03:59:22,435
public the opportunity to

7417
03:59:22,435 --> 03:59:24,835
protest the method of

7418
03:59:26,973 --> 03:59:28,740
collecting charges. Therefore,

7419
03:59:28,740 --> 03:59:30,877
the board of Public Utilities

7420
03:59:30,877 --> 03:59:31,845
in Santa Rosa Water or

7421
03:59:31,845 --> 03:59:33,880
recommend that council by

7422
03:59:33,880 --> 03:59:35,315
resolution adopt by 2 0rd

7423
03:59:35,315 --> 03:59:35,982
vote. The stormwater

7424
03:59:35,982 --> 03:59:36,616
Enterprise Charger port and

7425
03:59:36,616 --> 03:59:38,819
approved placement of the

7426
03:59:38,819 --> 03:59:39,953
stormwater enterprise charges

7427
03:59:39,953 --> 03:59:41,688
on the Sonoma County property

7428
03:59:41,688 --> 03:59:45,250
tax roll to be collected by

7429
03:59:45,250 --> 03:59:45,925
the Sonoma County auditor, a

7430
03:59:45,925 --> 03:59:47,194
controller treasurer tax

7431
03:59:47,194 --> 03:59:48,280
collector at the same time and

7432
03:59:48,280 --> 03:59:50,960
in the same manner as Sonoma

7433
03:59:50,960 --> 03:59:52,299
County property taxes are

7434
03:59:52,299 --> 03:59:53,330
collected unless those charges

7435
03:59:53,330 --> 03:59:55,569
do not meet the county minimum

7436
03:59:55,569 --> 03:59:56,269
of $10 and or partial owner

7437
03:59:56,269 --> 03:59:58,669
contact information is known

7438
03:59:58,771 --> 03:59:59,439
to be incorrect. This item was

7439
03:59:59,439 --> 04:00:01,541
no impact on current fiscal

7440
04:00:01,541 --> 04:00:02,975
year budget. And I'm happy to

7441
04:00:02,975 --> 04:00:05,450
answer any questions. You

7442
04:00:05,450 --> 04:00:08,450
have. That was masterful neck

7443
04:00:10,117 --> 04:00:11,585
bring it back to council.

7444
04:00:11,585 --> 04:00:12,652
Surprise. Surprise. No

7445
04:00:12,652 --> 04:00:13,520
questions. All right. Over to

7446
04:00:13,520 --> 04:00:15,589
public hearing, Sarah, to

7447
04:00:15,589 --> 04:00:16,689
start a public opening this up

7448
04:00:16,689 --> 04:00:17,290
to the public during am are

7449
04:00:17,290 --> 04:00:17,958
any members, the public

7450
04:00:17,958 --> 04:00:20,358
hearing House chambers that

7451
04:00:20,427 --> 04:00:21,940
wish to speak?

7452
04:00:21,940 --> 04:00:23,494
>> Seeing non online host.

7453
04:00:23,764 --> 04:00:24,464
Anybody online.

7454
04:00:24,464 --> 04:00:26,700
>> We have no one was wishing

7455
04:00:26,700 --> 04:00:27,600
to speak Zoom.

7456
04:00:27,600 --> 04:00:30,600
>> Thank you so much. Alright,

7457
04:00:31,405 --> 04:00:32,506
causing a public I feel like I

7458
04:00:32,506 --> 04:00:33,207
should make comments or or ask

7459
04:00:33,207 --> 04:00:33,874
a question or something, but

7460
04:00:33,874 --> 04:00:35,943
I'm I'm too tired. I'm not

7461
04:00:35,943 --> 04:00:36,643
doing it. Were now. We're

7462
04:00:36,643 --> 04:00:37,311
going to thank you for going

7463
04:00:37,311 --> 04:00:39,980
to thank you for your work.

7464
04:00:39,980 --> 04:00:40,647
This is again necessary

7465
04:00:40,647 --> 04:00:43,149
necessary work on behalf of

7466
04:00:43,149 --> 04:00:43,850
the city in the county. And

7467
04:00:43,850 --> 04:00:46,452
with that, a look see MISTER

7468
04:00:46,452 --> 04:00:47,754
Alvarez for Motion.

7469
04:00:47,754 --> 04:00:48,654
>> Thank you, Mayor. I like to

7470
04:00:48,654 --> 04:00:49,389
make a motion to adopt a

7471
04:00:49,389 --> 04:00:50,900
resolution is presented by

7472
04:00:50,900 --> 04:00:52,726
staff and we for the reading

7473
04:00:52,726 --> 04:00:53,727
of the text second, we have a

7474
04:00:53,727 --> 04:00:54,428
motion and a second and MADAM

7475
04:00:54,428 --> 04:00:57,428
City Clerk, Inc, all whenever

7476
04:00:57,998 --> 04:00:58,531
you're ready.

7477
04:00:58,531 --> 04:00:59,166
>> Thank you. Mayor

7478
04:00:59,166 --> 04:01:01,166
Councilmember Rogers and

7479
04:01:02,969 --> 04:01:03,536
Councilmember MacDonald.

7480
04:01:03,536 --> 04:01:05,536
Councilmember Fleming

7481
04:01:07,941 --> 04:01:10,341
Councilmember Yes, Bres vice

7482
04:01:11,450 --> 04:01:14,480
Cookie. I mayor step yes. Let

7483
04:01:14,480 --> 04:01:14,481
the record show this passes

7484
04:01:14,481 --> 04:01:15,316
unanimously.

7485
04:01:15,316 --> 04:01:16,830
>> All right. Thank you. Thank

7486
04:01:16,830 --> 04:01:17,160
you for the work in the

7487
04:01:17,160 --> 04:01:18,185
presentation. Both Nick, an

7488
04:01:18,185 --> 04:01:21,185
entire Santa Rosa Water team.

7489
04:01:21,989 --> 04:01:23,524
Thank you for being here That

7490
04:01:23,524 --> 04:01:24,258
is the and of our substantive

7491
04:01:24,258 --> 04:01:27,858
items. We have one more public

7492
04:01:28,362 --> 04:01:30,230
comment on non agenda matters.

7493
04:01:30,230 --> 04:01:31,970
So opening that There is no

7494
04:01:31,970 --> 04:01:32,499
one, no member. There are no

7495
04:01:32,499 --> 04:01:34,602
members of the public hearing

7496
04:01:34,602 --> 04:01:35,269
Council chambers to make host

7497
04:01:35,269 --> 04:01:37,710
anybody online for our our

7498
04:01:37,710 --> 04:01:38,380
second public comment on non

7499
04:01:38,380 --> 04:01:38,706
agenda matters.

7500
04:01:38,706 --> 04:01:40,574
>> No mayor, we have no one

7501
04:01:40,574 --> 04:01:41,275
online wishing to comment.

7502
04:01:41,275 --> 04:01:41,842
>> And then we are officially

7503
04:01:41,842 --> 04:01:43,842
adjourned. Thank you,

7504
04:01:55,523 --> 04:01:57,523
everyone.