1 00:17:38,117 --> 00:17:40,117 SENSITCITY OF SARASOTA. 2 00:17:43,355 --> 00:17:46,392 CITY OF SARASOTA. CITY OF SARASOTA. 3 00:17:46,392 --> 00:17:48,392 CITY OF SARASOTA. 4 00:28:47,518 --> 00:28:50,922 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ] >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT, 5 00:28:50,922 --> 00:28:53,922 EVERYBODY. IT IS MONDAY, OCTOBER 20, 2025. 6 00:28:54,225 --> 00:28:58,329 I'M CALLING TO ORDER OUR REGULAR SARASOTA CITY COMMISSION 7 00:28:58,329 --> 00:29:03,670 MEETING. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT YET, 8 00:29:03,670 --> 00:29:06,804 IF YOU WANT TO TURN OFF YOUR CELL PHONES OR PUT THEM ON 9 00:29:06,804 --> 00:29:08,139 SILENCE. I'M GOING TO ASK THE CITY 10 00:29:08,139 --> 00:29:10,941 AUDITOR AND CLERK FOR THE INVOCATION. 11 00:29:10,941 --> 00:29:16,341 >>Shayla Griggs: PLEASE STAND. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE AFFIRM OUR 12 00:29:17,148 --> 00:29:19,883 FAITH IN THEE. WE SEEK YOUR DIVINE STRENGTH, 13 00:29:19,883 --> 00:29:21,719 WISDOM AND GUIDANCE IN THE DELIBERATIONS THAT AFFECT THE 14 00:29:21,719 --> 00:29:24,890 LIVES OF EACH OF THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY. 15 00:29:24,890 --> 00:29:27,425 IN THY NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. >>Mayor Alpert: COMMISSIONER 16 00:29:27,425 --> 00:29:32,225 AHEARN-KOCH, COULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? 17 00:29:34,899 --> 00:29:39,990 [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. 18 00:29:45,843 --> 00:29:49,113 ANY CHANGES TO THE ORDER OF THE DAY, MS. GRIGGS? 19 00:29:49,113 --> 00:29:51,282 >>Shayla Griggs: YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU. 20 00:29:51,282 --> 00:29:56,682 PLEASE REMOVE AGENDA ITEM 6.2 APPROVAL RE: THORING THE MAYOR 21 00:29:57,388 --> 00:29:59,590 AND CITY AUDITOR EXECUTE THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT 22 00:29:59,590 --> 00:30:03,127 BETWEEN THE CITY OF SARASOTA AND THE CITRUS CANNERY FOOD 23 00:30:03,127 --> 00:30:07,365 PROCESSING AND ALLIED WORKERS DRIVERS WAREHOUSE AND HELP 24 00:30:07,365 --> 00:30:10,935 AFFILIATED WITH THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF 25 00:30:10,935 --> 00:30:14,500 TEAMSTER LOCAL 173 PER THE REQUEST OF INTERIM CITY MANAGER 26 00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:17,208 BULLOCK. THAT'S ALL THE CHANGES I HAVE, 27 00:30:17,208 --> 00:30:18,142 MAYOR. >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. 28 00:30:18,142 --> 00:30:23,114 THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 29 00:30:23,114 --> 00:30:26,951 THE CHANGES TO THE ORDER OF THE DAY? 30 00:30:26,951 --> 00:30:28,619 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: SO MOVED. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: SECOND. 31 00:30:28,619 --> 00:30:31,155 >>Mayor Alpert: THE VICE MAYOR MOVED TO APPROVE THE CHANGES TO 32 00:30:31,155 --> 00:30:35,955 THE ORDER OF THE DAY. COMMISSIONER OHLRICH SECONDED. 33 00:30:36,693 --> 00:30:42,930 COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU WILL VOTE. IS THAT YOUR VOTE? 34 00:30:43,834 --> 00:30:46,834 >> YES. >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. 35 00:30:46,971 --> 00:30:52,371 THE CHANGES ARE APPROVED. SO, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A 36 00:30:54,589 --> 00:30:56,792 PRESENTATION THIS MORNING -- >>Shayla Griggs: MAYOR, YOU ALSO 37 00:30:56,792 --> 00:30:59,394 NEED TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED AGENDA SCHEDULE. 38 00:30:59,394 --> 00:31:04,265 >>Mayor Alpert: I'M SORRY. SINCE WE APPROVED THE CHANGES. 39 00:31:04,265 --> 00:31:06,335 OKAY. APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED AGENDA 40 00:31:06,335 --> 00:31:09,935 SCHEDULE, COMMISSIONERS. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: SO MOVED. 41 00:31:10,271 --> 00:31:12,541 >>Kyle Battie: SECOND. >>Mayor Alpert: VICE MAYOR MOVED 42 00:31:12,541 --> 00:31:14,609 APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED AGENDA SCHEDULE. 43 00:31:14,609 --> 00:31:19,409 COMMISSIONER BATTIE SECONDED. IF YOU WILL VOTE, COMMISSIONERS. 44 00:31:20,983 --> 00:31:23,852 IS THAT YOUR VOTE? ALL RIGHT. 45 00:31:23,852 --> 00:31:28,520 THEN WE CAN NOW DO THE PRESENTATION. 46 00:31:52,581 --> 00:31:55,450 WE HAVE A LEGACY BUSINESS, AND I WOULD LIKE COMMISSIONER 47 00:31:55,450 --> 00:32:00,250 AHEARN-KOCH TO COME UP AND DO THIS PRESENTATION. 48 00:32:05,193 --> 00:32:08,196 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. THIS IS LEGACY BUSINESS 49 00:32:08,196 --> 00:32:10,665 PROCLAMATION: WHEREAS, THE CITY OF SARASOTA LEGACY BUSINESS 50 00:32:10,665 --> 00:32:14,265 PROGRAM RECOGNIZES THE CONTRIBUTION OF LOCAL 51 00:32:15,804 --> 00:32:18,140 LONG-STANDING BUSINESSES AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE GROWTH AND 52 00:32:18,140 --> 00:32:22,940 PROSPERITY OF THE CITY; AND WHEREAS, ON DECEMBER 8, 2002, 53 00:32:23,780 --> 00:32:27,416 MATTISON'S CITY GRILLE OPENED FOR BUSINESS AS AN UPSCALE, 54 00:32:27,416 --> 00:32:31,220 EUROPEAN-STYLE OUTDOOR CAFE; AND WHEREAS, FOR 23 YEARS, 55 00:32:31,220 --> 00:32:36,620 MATTISON'S CITY GRILLE HAS OPERATED AS A CHEF-OWNED LOCAL 56 00:32:36,624 --> 00:32:39,962 RESTAURANT; AND WHEREAS, MATTISON'S CITY GRILLE HAS BEEN 57 00:32:39,962 --> 00:32:42,998 A CITY FIXTURE AND A CONTRIBUTING ASSET TO THE 58 00:32:42,998 --> 00:32:47,360 VITALITY AND PROSPERITY OF DOWNTOWN SARASOTA SINCE 2002. 59 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,772 NOW, THEREFORE, THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF 60 00:32:49,772 --> 00:32:53,420 SARASOTA, FLORIDA, ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY 61 00:32:53,420 --> 00:32:56,778 TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN RECOGNIZING MATTISON'S CITY GRILLE AS A 62 00:32:56,778 --> 00:33:00,978 LEGACY BUSINESS. MR. PAUL MATTISON, WOULD YOU 63 00:33:01,384 --> 00:33:06,784 PLEASE COME DOWN AND ACCEPT THE LEGACY BUSINESS PROCLAMATION? 64 00:33:06,889 --> 00:33:11,689 WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? 65 00:33:12,661 --> 00:33:16,331 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S HUMBLING AND AN HONOR TO BE 66 00:33:16,331 --> 00:33:19,635 RECOGNIZED. IT'S BEEN A GREAT 23 YEARS. 67 00:33:19,635 --> 00:33:21,200 LOVE SARASOTA. LOVE THE CITY. 68 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,740 APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK AND EVERYTHING YOU DO. 69 00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:29,545 AND THOSE BEFORE YOU THAT HAVE INTERACTED WITH MANY TIMES OVER 70 00:33:29,545 --> 00:33:31,948 THE YEAR PUTTING THIS RESTAURANT TOGETHER. 71 00:33:31,948 --> 00:33:35,830 IT'S BEEN A WIN. IT'S BEEN A GREAT HOME-RUN FOR 72 00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:36,752 US. WE LOVE BEING HERE AND WE LOOK 73 00:33:36,752 --> 00:33:39,888 FORWARD TO MANY, MANY MORE YEARS IN THE CITY OF SARASOTA. 74 00:33:39,888 --> 00:33:43,592 IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY TO 75 00:33:43,592 --> 00:33:46,295 SUPPORT ANYTHING, ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS AND EVERYONE'S IN THE 76 00:33:46,295 --> 00:33:49,764 CITY, OUR DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE HONOR. 77 00:33:49,764 --> 00:33:52,764 APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] 78 00:33:54,636 --> 00:33:58,440 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: I WOULD ALSO JUST LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS 79 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,760 ABOUT MATTISON'S. FULL DISCLOSURE, I WORKED FOR 80 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,813 PAUL FOR 12 YEARS, PR AND MARKETING WHEN HE WAS JUST 81 00:34:04,813 --> 00:34:06,848 STARTING OUT IN DOWNTOWN SARASOTA. 82 00:34:06,848 --> 00:34:11,854 I'M VERY, VERY, VERY PROUD TO HAVE WORKED FOR THIS MAN WHO IS 83 00:34:11,854 --> 00:34:16,358 NOT ONLY A TALENTED AND INCREDIBLE CHEF BUT ALSO A VERY 84 00:34:16,358 --> 00:34:21,196 SMART BUSINESSMAN AND A VERY, VERY KIND COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTOR. 85 00:34:21,196 --> 00:34:25,734 IT WAS ACTUALLY PAUL THORPE, MR. DOWNTOWN, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS 86 00:34:25,734 --> 00:34:30,539 HIM, WAS SCHEMING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WERE GOING TO GET OUR 87 00:34:30,539 --> 00:34:33,942 DOWNTOWN REVITALIZED. HE GOT AHOLD OF PAUL MATTISON. 88 00:34:33,942 --> 00:34:38,213 GOT HOLD OF ME AND OTHER FOLKS AND SAID THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO 89 00:34:38,213 --> 00:34:43,613 CAN REALLY GET THIS DONE. THROUGH PAUL'S DESIGN AND 90 00:34:43,652 --> 00:34:48,256 WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, MANAGED TO CREATE A VERY 91 00:34:48,256 --> 00:34:52,895 IMPORTANT CORNER OF THE CITY OF SARASOTA AND TURN IT INTO A 92 00:34:52,895 --> 00:34:56,431 VIBRANT, WELCOMING, OPEN SPACE. ASIDE FROM C'EST LA VIE, THIS 93 00:34:56,431 --> 00:35:00,350 WAS I BELIEVE ONLY THE SECOND PLACE IN DOWNTOWN WHERE YOU 94 00:35:00,350 --> 00:35:02,571 ACTUALLY SAT OUTSIDE. BACK IN THE DAY, NOBODY THOUGHT 95 00:35:02,571 --> 00:35:06,171 ABOUT SITTING OUTSIDE IN DOWNTOWN SARASOTA. 96 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,181 SO MATTISON'S, HAVING OFFICIALLY HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE 97 00:35:13,181 --> 00:35:17,860 BUSINESS, I ALWAYS SAY, AT LEAST A MAJOR PART OF TURNING DOWNTOWN 98 00:35:17,860 --> 00:35:21,900 SARASOTA AROUND INTO THE VIBRANT PLACE THAT IT IS TODAY. 99 00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:25,890 PAUL IS AN INCREDIBLY RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS OWNER AND 100 00:35:27,530 --> 00:35:32,534 JUST A VERY GOOD HUMAN BEING. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY FOR THE 101 00:35:32,534 --> 00:35:36,538 RECORD I ALWAYS RECUSED MYSELF ON ANY VOTES INVOLVING 102 00:35:36,538 --> 00:35:40,642 MATTISON'S EVEN THOUGH I DON'T WORK FOR HIM ANYMORE FOR OVER 103 00:35:40,642 --> 00:35:44,113 EIGHT YEARS, THERE'S STILL SOMETHING THAT MAKES MATTISON'S 104 00:35:44,113 --> 00:35:48,313 SUPER SPECIAL TO ME. THANK YOU, PAUL. 105 00:35:48,750 --> 00:35:51,219 [ APPLAUSE ] >>Mayor Alpert: I WANT TO ADD A 106 00:35:51,219 --> 00:35:55,624 QUICK REMARK. WHEN I MOVED BACK TO SARASOTA IN 107 00:35:55,624 --> 00:35:59,361 2002, OF COURSE, YOU WERE ALREADY OPEN AT THAT LOCATION, 108 00:35:59,361 --> 00:36:03,264 AND IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE TIKI TORCHES AND THE OUTDOOR 109 00:36:03,264 --> 00:36:06,968 SEATING THAT I WAS LIKE THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE I WANT TO LIVE. 110 00:36:06,968 --> 00:36:12,707 IT WAS VERY, VERY MAGICAL. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE. 111 00:36:12,707 --> 00:36:15,107 COMMISSIONERS. ? Thank you. Thank 112 00:36:48,209 --> 00:36:49,944 >> THANK YOU, EVERYONE. APPRECIATE IT. 113 00:36:49,944 --> 00:36:52,344 >>Mayor Alpert: CONGRATULATIONS. OKAY. 114 00:37:13,312 --> 00:37:17,116 I WOULD ASK THE CITY AUDITOR AND CLERK TO READ THE PLEDGE OF 115 00:37:17,116 --> 00:37:21,916 PUBLIC CONDUCT. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE OUR 116 00:37:22,855 --> 00:37:25,724 CITIZEN COMMENTS. WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE SIGNED UP. 117 00:37:25,724 --> 00:37:31,330 YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH. WHEN YOU SPEAK, BE SURE TO STATE 118 00:37:31,330 --> 00:37:33,532 YOUR NAME AND WHETHER YOU ARE A CITY RESIDENT. 119 00:37:33,532 --> 00:37:36,401 >>Shayla Griggs: WE WILL DISAGREE BUT RESPECTFUL TO ONE 120 00:37:36,401 --> 00:37:37,602 ANOTHER. DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO ISSUES. 121 00:37:37,602 --> 00:37:39,272 WE WILL NOT ENGAGE IN PERSONAL ATTACKS. 122 00:37:39,272 --> 00:37:43,750 THANK YOU. >>Mayor Alpert: WE HAVE MARTIN 123 00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:46,750 HYDE. DAVID LOUGH, CHRIS JOHNSON. 124 00:37:48,146 --> 00:37:51,146 AND SHAWN PATTEN. MR. HYDE. 125 00:38:03,295 --> 00:38:05,300 >> INDEED. OBVIOUSLY, I REMAIN THAT VERY 126 00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:09,230 SAME ONE. FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT DON'T 127 00:38:12,705 --> 00:38:19,305 FOLLOW THESE THINGS, THERE WAS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM REMOVED FROM 128 00:38:21,113 --> 00:38:24,830 TODAY'S AGENDA. DOES TELL SOMEWHAT THE STORY 129 00:38:24,830 --> 00:38:28,883 ABOUT WHAT MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT AGREEMENTS BEING MADE 130 00:38:29,388 --> 00:38:33,925 TURNS PEOPLE INTO. THE ASSUMPTION WAS PER THE 131 00:38:33,925 --> 00:38:38,530 CONSENT AGENDA THAT THE TEAMSTERS UNION WOULD AGREE TO A 132 00:38:38,530 --> 00:38:42,667 PROPOSITION THAT WAS MADE TO THEM IN PART GAVE NO RAISES TO 133 00:38:42,667 --> 00:38:46,939 THE PEOPLE ALREADY ENTITLED TO SO-CALLED STEP INCREASES LEAVING 134 00:38:46,939 --> 00:38:53,278 27% OR ABOUT 83 OF THEM TO BE OFFERED NOT A RAISE BUT A 135 00:38:53,278 --> 00:38:57,415 THOUSAND TO 1500 BUCKS WHICH IN PRACTICAL TERMS IS ABOUT 2%, 136 00:38:57,415 --> 00:39:03,155 WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS A PAY CUT. I GUESS THE QUESTION HERE IS, 137 00:39:03,155 --> 00:39:06,558 WHOSE IDEA WAS IT? HOW DID YOU EVER THINK THAT WAS 138 00:39:06,558 --> 00:39:09,628 EVER GOING TO PASS. THERE WAS NO WAY THAT ANYBODY IS 139 00:39:09,628 --> 00:39:13,699 GOING TO AGREE TO A PAY CUT. IT'S REALLY NOT STAFF'S FAULT 140 00:39:13,699 --> 00:39:16,301 THAT YOU ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY. 141 00:39:16,301 --> 00:39:21,507 I TOLD YOU MONTHS AGO THAT YOUR BUDGET HAS TO INCLUDE SALARIES 142 00:39:21,507 --> 00:39:24,176 BECAUSE IT'S YOUR BIGGEST, ONGOING COMMITMENT. 143 00:39:24,176 --> 00:39:27,980 YOU CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT. NOW WHAT YOU'RE FACING BY WAY OF 144 00:39:27,980 --> 00:39:32,518 YOUR PAYROLL IS ABOUT A $2.5 MILLION BLACK HOLE. 145 00:39:32,518 --> 00:39:37,789 AS ANOTHER FYI, THE PART OF THE NEGOTIATION THAT WAS IN THAT 146 00:39:37,789 --> 00:39:42,729 CONSENT AGENDA TWO WAS SOME ILLUSION TO THE FACT THAT THEIR 147 00:39:42,729 --> 00:39:48,000 HEALTH INSURANCE WOULDN'T GO UP AFTER THIS YEAR FOR ANOTHER TWO 148 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,269 YEARS. THAT'S A BLANK CHECK. 149 00:39:49,269 --> 00:39:51,870 YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT WOULD BE. 150 00:39:51,870 --> 00:39:55,700 IN PRACTICAL TERMS, THE CITY'S INCREASE OVER THAT TIME IS 151 00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:58,143 LIKELY TO BE COLLECTIVELY SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS THAT 152 00:39:58,143 --> 00:40:01,413 STAFF WOULDN'T BE ASKED TO PARTICIPATE. 153 00:40:01,413 --> 00:40:06,752 THAT'S SOMETHING YOU NEED TO BUDGET AND SOMETHING YOU NEED TO 154 00:40:06,752 --> 00:40:10,352 INCLUDE. LASTLY, MORE GENERAL POINT, YOU 155 00:40:10,889 --> 00:40:15,361 OVER DOUBLED YOUR BUDGET OVER A PERIOD WHEN INFLATION WAS 35% 156 00:40:15,361 --> 00:40:17,162 AND ALWAYS HOW IT WAS GOING TO END. 157 00:40:17,162 --> 00:40:23,435 IT'S NOT FAIR TO PUT STACIE MASON, THE HR DIRECTOR OUT AS A 158 00:40:23,435 --> 00:40:27,172 SACRIFICIAL LAMB FOR THE FOLLY AND MISTAKES YOU GUYS HAVE MADE. 159 00:40:27,172 --> 00:40:33,145 IT DID CULMINATE, BRING IT TO THE FORE HERE, IN A RATHER 160 00:40:33,145 --> 00:40:34,312 DISTURBING TWO-PAGE ANONYMOUS E-MAIL. 161 00:40:34,312 --> 00:40:38,160 IT WASN'T FROM ME BECAUSE I DON'T DO ANONYMOUS. 162 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,816 ANONYMOUS E-MAIL DETAILING IN PART SEXUAL HARASSMENT, CRONYISM 163 00:40:43,488 --> 00:40:46,258 AND MISUSE OF OPIATE SETTLEMENT FUNDS. 164 00:40:46,258 --> 00:40:49,595 THAT IS A RELATIVELY SERIOUS SET OF ALLEGATIONS. 165 00:40:49,595 --> 00:40:53,999 MY LAST THOUGHT HERE IS IF YOU DON'T WANT ANOTHER 166 00:40:53,999 --> 00:40:58,537 NADALINI-GATE, A COUPLE OF YOU WERE HERE AT THE TIME, I SUGGEST 167 00:40:58,537 --> 00:41:00,739 YOU INVESTIGATE THIS PRONTO. >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. 168 00:41:00,739 --> 00:41:02,739 DAVID LOUGH. >> YES. 169 00:41:02,942 --> 00:41:06,145 DAVID LOUGH, A ROSEMARY DISTRICT RESIDENT. 170 00:41:06,145 --> 00:41:10,616 MILES, CAN YOU PUT THAT ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE? 171 00:41:10,616 --> 00:41:13,218 I'M GOING TO PRESENT A COUPLE OF NUMBERS TODAY. 172 00:41:13,218 --> 00:41:15,787 WHY? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR 173 00:41:15,787 --> 00:41:19,825 STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION IN ABOUT NINE DAYS AND THERE IS A 174 00:41:19,825 --> 00:41:21,761 WORKSHOP RESIDENTS MAY SPEAK. THAT'S ONE THING. 175 00:41:21,761 --> 00:41:25,632 THE OTHER THING, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS HAVING A BOARD 176 00:41:25,632 --> 00:41:29,167 MEETING THIS WEDNESDAY. I KNOW THAT ON THEIR AGENDA IS 177 00:41:29,167 --> 00:41:33,238 THE POSSIBLE PARKING THERE. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. 178 00:41:33,238 --> 00:41:38,109 HERE IS THE ROSEMARY DISTRICT. I DON'T EXPECT TO YOU READ THIS, 179 00:41:38,109 --> 00:41:41,180 BUT THOSE SHOWN ARE THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN EACH OF THOSE 180 00:41:41,180 --> 00:41:47,552 BUILDINGS, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE ROSEMARY IS KIND OF FILLING OUT. 181 00:41:47,552 --> 00:41:49,870 THE ORANGE ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 182 00:41:49,870 --> 00:41:52,858 THE YELLOW ARE PLANNED AND THE RED ARE EXISTING. 183 00:41:52,858 --> 00:41:57,595 SO WHAT THIS AMOUNTS TO, THERE IS AROUND 3300 DWELLING UNITS IN 184 00:41:57,595 --> 00:42:02,995 THE ROSEMARY TODAY. AND DEPENDING ON YOUR MATH, HOW 185 00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:08,606 MANY PEOPLE PER UNIT, VICE MAYOR TRICE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT 186 00:42:08,606 --> 00:42:10,141 THAT. I USE 1.5. 187 00:42:10,141 --> 00:42:13,450 YOU PICK A NUMBER. BUT IT'S A LOT OF FOLKS. 188 00:42:13,450 --> 00:42:17,845 HERE IS THE THING. WITH THE ABOUT 500 UNDER 189 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,821 CONSTRUCTION TODAY AND GIVE OR TAKE ANOTHER 500 ON THE 190 00:42:22,821 --> 00:42:26,358 PIPELINE, WE WILL HAVE OVER 3,000 DWELLING UNITS IN THE 191 00:42:26,358 --> 00:42:32,958 ROSEMARY IN FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS. AGAIN, WHATEVER YOUR MATH IS 192 00:42:33,832 --> 00:42:38,320 AROUND 5,000 PEOPLE. NUMBER 36 DOWN THERE IS THE 193 00:42:38,804 --> 00:42:42,404 NUMBER OF PEOPLE ESTIMATED PER ACRE. 194 00:42:43,308 --> 00:42:49,114 THINK OF THAT DENSITY AND WHAT THAT CAN DO IN TERMS OF HELPING 195 00:42:49,114 --> 00:42:54,553 SUPPORT PUBLIC TRANSIT AND OTHER NEEDS THAT A DENSE KIND OF 196 00:42:54,553 --> 00:42:59,358 NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE. ONE GOOD BIT OF NEWS, STILL ON 197 00:42:59,358 --> 00:43:04,863 THE LEFT-HAND BAR, 26% OF THE DWELLING UNITS IN THE ROSEMARY, 198 00:43:04,863 --> 00:43:10,263 ACCORDING TO MY PROJECTIONS IN 2032 WILL REMAIN SENIOR OR 199 00:43:11,845 --> 00:43:14,347 ATTAINABLE, AFFORDABLE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM. 200 00:43:14,347 --> 00:43:18,850 SO WE ARE BUILDING STOCK, WHETHER IT BE LOFTS ON LEMON. 201 00:43:18,850 --> 00:43:24,240 IT JUST SHOWS YOU WHY I THINK THE ROSEMARY IS GREAT, INCLUDING 202 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:28,280 OUR FIRST TATTOO PARLOR I MIGHT ADD, WHICH HAS COME IN. 203 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:33,701 HERE IS ONE VISION OF McCOWN'S APARTMENTS THAT THE HOUSING 204 00:43:33,701 --> 00:43:38,338 AUTHORITY IS THINKING ABOUT. THIS IS MY PARTICULAR VISION. 205 00:43:38,338 --> 00:43:42,420 I KNOW TO MR. BULLOCK'S POINT, ASPIRATIONS HAVE TO MEET 206 00:43:42,420 --> 00:43:45,512 REALITY. BUT HERE'S ONE WAY OF THINKING 207 00:43:45,512 --> 00:43:50,484 ABOUT STRUCTURED PARKING IN THIS BUILDING WITH RETAIL ON THE 208 00:43:50,484 --> 00:43:55,189 GROUND FLOOR, WITH EXPERIENTIAL MAKING ROSEMARY THE 15-MINUTE 209 00:43:55,189 --> 00:43:58,860 CITY. THE FINAL SLIDE IS AS TORE AND 210 00:43:58,860 --> 00:44:04,260 LINKS IS TESTING OUT I'LL CALL IT i-Ride 2 CONCEPT. 211 00:44:04,665 --> 00:44:08,535 THAT'S ANOTHER ELEMENT. AS YOU GO INTO YOUR STRATEGIC 212 00:44:08,535 --> 00:44:11,338 PLANNING SESSION, SOME THINGS I RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST YOU KEEP IN 213 00:44:11,338 --> 00:44:13,338 MIND. THANKS. 214 00:44:15,341 --> 00:44:16,810 >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. CHRIS JOHNSON. 215 00:44:16,810 --> 00:44:17,745 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. 216 00:44:17,745 --> 00:44:21,810 CHRIS JOHNSON, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AT THE UNITED WAY OF 217 00:44:21,810 --> 00:44:24,170 SOUTH SARASOTA COUNTY. WE ARE THE LEAD AGENCY FOR BOTH 218 00:44:24,170 --> 00:44:29,890 THE LONG-TERM RECOVERY GROUP FOR HURRICANES IAN, IDALIA, DEBBY, 219 00:44:29,890 --> 00:44:31,892 MILTON AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ACTIVE IN 220 00:44:31,892 --> 00:44:35,162 DISASTER. ALSO RECENTLY, THE RECIPIENT OF 221 00:44:35,162 --> 00:44:37,231 DISASTER CASE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FUNDING THROUGH FEMA AND THROUGH 222 00:44:37,231 --> 00:44:40,701 THE STATE AND VOLUNTEER FLORIDA. I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE 223 00:44:40,701 --> 00:44:43,503 TODAY ON WHAT WE'RE DOING COUNTYWIDE WITH THE LONG-TERM 224 00:44:43,503 --> 00:44:47,174 RECOVERY GROUP AND WITH THE DCMP, DISASTER CASE MANAGEMENT 225 00:44:47,174 --> 00:44:50,174 PROGRAM. TO DATE, COMPLETED 120 REBUILDS 226 00:44:50,277 --> 00:44:53,646 ON HOMES HELPING FAMILIES IMPACTED BY THESE FIVE STORMS. 227 00:44:53,646 --> 00:44:56,249 RETURN TO SAFE, SECURE AND FUNCTIONAL HOUSING. 228 00:44:56,249 --> 00:44:59,253 WE CONTINUE TO ACTIVELY RAISE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR 229 00:44:59,253 --> 00:45:01,988 RECONSTRUCTION. EVERY BIT OF THE FUNDING WE USED 230 00:45:01,988 --> 00:45:03,390 FOR RECONSTRUCTION WE HAVE RAISED OURSELVES. 231 00:45:03,390 --> 00:45:07,360 WE'RE THRILLED TO SHARE THAT WE SUCCEEDED THE CONTINUED SUPPORT 232 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,330 FOR WORLD RENEW FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS. 233 00:45:10,330 --> 00:45:13,801 WORLD RENEW OFFERS VOLUNTEER SKILLED LABOR FORCE THAT COMES 234 00:45:13,801 --> 00:45:17,337 INTO OUR COMMUNITY. CONTRIBUTED $1.2 MILLION WORTH 235 00:45:17,337 --> 00:45:23,900 OF LABOR IN LAST TWO YEARS AND CONTINUE THE EFFORTS WITH 236 00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:26,179 HURRICANE HELENE AND MILTON OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS. 237 00:45:26,179 --> 00:45:29,149 OTHER LABOR GROUPS, MENNONITE DISASTER SERVICES, PRAYING 238 00:45:29,149 --> 00:45:32,149 PELICAN MISSIONS AND PRESBYTERIAN DISASTER 239 00:45:32,819 --> 00:45:35,689 ASSISTANCE. GREATLY EXPAND OUR CAPACITY TO 240 00:45:35,689 --> 00:45:37,900 REBUILD HOMES. LONG-TERM RECOVERY ALSO SECURE 241 00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:40,861 THE PURCHASE OF 16-FOOT BOX TRUCK SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO 242 00:45:40,861 --> 00:45:43,797 TRANSPORT BUILDING MATERIALS AND APPLIANCES TO WORK SITES. 243 00:45:43,797 --> 00:45:47,667 THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT STEP FORWARD FOR US IN OUR ABILITY TO 244 00:45:47,667 --> 00:45:50,304 INCREASE LOGISTICAL EFFICIENCY. HOWEVER, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE AN 245 00:45:50,304 --> 00:45:54,508 ONGOING NEED FOR A WAREHOUSE TO STORE CONSTRUCTION SUPPLIES AND 246 00:45:54,508 --> 00:45:56,209 DONATED MATERIALS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE 247 00:45:56,209 --> 00:45:59,179 CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OTHER AGENCIES TO TRY TO FIND A 248 00:45:59,179 --> 00:46:01,648 PARTNERSHIP TO DO. CURRENTLY, LONG-TERM RECOVERY 249 00:46:01,648 --> 00:46:05,385 GROUP HAS 78 ACTIVE CASES SPANNING FROM HURRICANE IAN 250 00:46:05,385 --> 00:46:08,220 THROUGH HURRICANE MILTON. CASE MANAGERS ARE IN THE PROCESS 251 00:46:08,220 --> 00:46:11,792 OF MAKING THE FIRST INITIAL 540 OUTREACH CALLS TO THOSE THAT ARE 252 00:46:11,792 --> 00:46:16,630 ON THE FEMA LIST. 70,000 PEOPLE ON THAT LIST. 253 00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:19,466 AS PART OF THE DISASTER CASE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IT IS OUR 254 00:46:19,466 --> 00:46:21,670 RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE EVERY ONE OF THEM IS REACHED. 255 00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:25,472 ON THAT NOTE, UNITED WAY OF SOUTH SARASOTA COUNTY HAS BEEN 256 00:46:25,472 --> 00:46:27,207 AWARDED $2.2 MILLION OF THE DISASTER CASE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM 257 00:46:27,207 --> 00:46:30,207 FOR HURRICANES HELENE AND MILTON. 258 00:46:30,277 --> 00:46:32,379 THIS IS THROUGH VOLUNTEER FLORIDA FROM FEMA. 259 00:46:32,379 --> 00:46:37,840 THIS MARKS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND PILOT PROGRAM WITHIN THE STATE 260 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,353 WHERE A LONG-TERM RECOVERY GROUP IS ADMINISTERING THE DISASTER 261 00:46:40,353 --> 00:46:41,655 CASE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM DIRECTLY. 262 00:46:41,655 --> 00:46:44,725 NORMALLY DONE THROUGH A THIRD PARTY NONPROFIT THAT'S HIRED IN 263 00:46:44,725 --> 00:46:48,428 TO DO THAT. WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BE A -- TO BE 264 00:46:48,428 --> 00:46:52,632 PART OF THIS PILOT PROGRAM, AND IT REQUIRED APPROVAL AT BOTH THE 265 00:46:52,632 --> 00:46:56,103 STATE AND THE FEDERAL LEVEL. ONLY ONE OF TWO COUNTIES IN THIS 266 00:46:56,103 --> 00:46:59,773 PROGRAM, US AND COLLIER, THAT ARE PILOTING THIS INNOVATIVE 267 00:46:59,773 --> 00:47:02,743 APPROACH. AGAIN, DCMP IS CASE MANAGEMENT 268 00:47:02,743 --> 00:47:03,911 ONLY. DOES NOT CONSIDER CONSTRUCTION 269 00:47:03,911 --> 00:47:05,912 MONEY. THERE'S NO FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR 270 00:47:05,912 --> 00:47:09,116 THAT SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO RAISE THE FUNDS OURSELVES. 271 00:47:09,116 --> 00:47:12,119 WE ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE TO REACH THE 70,000 FOLKS AND WILL 272 00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:14,555 DO THAT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS IN OUR PROCESSES. 273 00:47:14,555 --> 00:47:17,657 WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO IN DISASTER RECOVERY AND LOOK 274 00:47:17,657 --> 00:47:20,126 FORWARD TO GIVING YOU UPDATES AS WE GO FORWARD. 275 00:47:20,126 --> 00:47:22,396 THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU FOR 276 00:47:22,396 --> 00:47:24,396 THAT. SHAWN PATTEN. 277 00:47:25,799 --> 00:47:27,134 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. 278 00:47:27,134 --> 00:47:29,669 FIRST OFF, THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING. 279 00:47:29,669 --> 00:47:32,206 YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK TO SUPPORT THE ENVIRONMENTAL 280 00:47:32,206 --> 00:47:34,741 COMMUNITY IN SARASOTA. AND WE SEE IT. 281 00:47:34,741 --> 00:47:38,345 I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK MORNING SHOUT-OUT AS SOMEONE WHO 282 00:47:38,345 --> 00:47:41,215 ADVISES QUITE A FEW TOWNS AND CITIES ACROSS THE STATE, I KNOW 283 00:47:41,215 --> 00:47:45,218 HOW HARD YOUR JOB IS. I MIGHT BE ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE 284 00:47:45,218 --> 00:47:47,554 THAT TRULY DOES. THANK YOU FOR THAT. 285 00:47:47,554 --> 00:47:49,756 UNFORTUNATELY, I WISH I WAS HERE ON BETTER TERMS. 286 00:47:49,756 --> 00:47:52,626 AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN SARASOTA WHO EMPLOYS DOZENS OF 287 00:47:52,626 --> 00:47:56,763 YOUNG PEOPLE I WAS VERY EXCITED TO SPONSOR AND SUPPORT THE 288 00:47:56,763 --> 00:47:59,299 SARASOTA CHALK FESTIVAL. LONGTIME RUNNING EVENT. 289 00:47:59,299 --> 00:48:02,369 WE PUT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS INTO HELPING SUPPORT THE EVENT, 290 00:48:02,369 --> 00:48:06,173 ADVERTISING, CLEANUP, AND FOR A LOT OF MY STAFF, IT WAS THE 291 00:48:06,173 --> 00:48:11,477 FIRST-EVER PROJECT THAT THEY PUT MONEY TOWARDS, THAT WE HELPED 292 00:48:11,477 --> 00:48:12,379 SPONSOR. SO IT'S EXCITING. 293 00:48:12,379 --> 00:48:17,183 THEN WHEN YOU SEE THE SARASOTA CHALK FESTIVAL, INCLUDING THE 294 00:48:17,183 --> 00:48:19,586 PERMANENT INSTALLATIONS, YOU OFTEN THINK OF THE BUSINESSES 295 00:48:19,586 --> 00:48:21,855 THAT SUPPORT THEM. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY AS 296 00:48:21,855 --> 00:48:25,580 A BUSINESS OWNER I SUPPORT THESE ART INSTALLATIONS. 297 00:48:25,580 --> 00:48:28,362 THEY WERE GREAT. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I 298 00:48:28,362 --> 00:48:30,264 WAS A SPONSOR FOR THE CHALK FESTIVAL. 299 00:48:30,264 --> 00:48:35,835 IMAGINE MY SURPRISE WHEN A FEW MONTHS AFTER THE CHALK FESTIVAL, 300 00:48:35,835 --> 00:48:40,273 EVERYTHING IS PULLED UP. NO MEETINGS, NO NOTICE, NO 301 00:48:40,273 --> 00:48:44,911 CALLS, NOTHING, NO PUSH-BACK. WHAT IS THE CITY OF SARASOTA'S 302 00:48:44,911 --> 00:48:49,549 PLAN TO REIMBURSE OR TO HELP ALLEVIATE DAMAGES FOR THE 303 00:48:49,549 --> 00:48:52,219 BUSINESSES AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAD DIRECT LOSSES DUE TO 304 00:48:52,219 --> 00:48:55,880 THE REMOVAL OF ALL THIS PUBLIC ART? 305 00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,327 WHY SHOULD I CONTINUE TO SPONSOR ART EVENTS IN SARASOTA COUNTY OR 306 00:49:00,327 --> 00:49:06,327 SARASOTA CITY IF THEY COULD BE DESTROYED AT ANY MOMENT? 307 00:49:07,834 --> 00:49:11,434 THAT'S IT. >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU, 308 00:49:12,706 --> 00:49:17,506 SHAWN. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT 309 00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:23,854 THAT THIS IS JUST COMMENTS. IF THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO 310 00:49:23,854 --> 00:49:27,692 RESPOND TO ANYTHING, WE GENERALLY DO THAT AT 311 00:49:27,692 --> 00:49:29,526 COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING. 312 00:49:29,526 --> 00:49:33,126 SO IT'S NOT INTERACTIVE. ALL RIGHT. 313 00:49:33,230 --> 00:49:38,300 LET'S MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES. 314 00:49:40,338 --> 00:49:42,506 ITEM 4.1. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE 315 00:49:42,506 --> 00:49:47,906 MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL SARASOTA CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF 316 00:49:48,745 --> 00:49:50,614 SEPTEMBER 9? >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: MOVE 317 00:49:50,614 --> 00:49:51,215 APPROVAL. >> SECOND. 318 00:49:51,215 --> 00:49:54,484 >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER OHLRICH MOVED 319 00:49:54,484 --> 00:50:02,284 APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL SARASOTA CITY COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES Okay, set your vote. 320 00:50:14,238 --> 00:50:19,510 Commissioners. Alright, passes unanimously. All righ OF PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. 321 00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:21,445 ALL RIGHT. WE MOVE ON TO THE MINUTES OF THE 322 00:50:21,445 --> 00:50:25,645 REGULAR SARASOTA CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 15, 2025. 323 00:50:26,250 --> 00:50:28,650 ANY CORRECTIONS? COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH. 324 00:50:29,653 --> 00:50:33,258 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: I SUBMITTED SOME NON-SUBSTANTIVE CORRECTIONS 325 00:50:33,258 --> 00:50:38,929 AND ONE SUBSTANTIVE THAT I WILL LET THE CITY AUDITOR AND CLERK 326 00:50:38,929 --> 00:50:41,929 ELABORATE UPON. >>Shayla Griggs: COMMISSIONER 327 00:50:43,634 --> 00:50:47,834 AHEARN-KOCH BROUGHT UP UNDER THE SEPTEMBER 15, 2025, MINUTES 328 00:50:50,141 --> 00:50:54,211 REGARDING PAGE 15. IT'S THE SECOND LINE, AND IT 329 00:50:54,211 --> 00:50:57,214 READS, AND THE COMMISSION DISCUSSED THE WORD NEIGHBORHOOD 330 00:50:57,214 --> 00:51:01,218 BEING REMOVED FROM THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ALONG WITH 331 00:51:01,218 --> 00:51:04,255 CITY DOCUMENTS. THIS IS A COMMENT BASED ON 332 00:51:04,255 --> 00:51:06,220 CITIZENS' INPUT. I BELIEVE THE DISCUSSION WAS NOT 333 00:51:06,220 --> 00:51:11,280 ABOUT US LOOKING TO REMOVE THE WORD NEIGHBORHOOD BUT AS TO WHY 334 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,432 IT WAS ALREADY REMOVED. I THINK, AND I AM NOT SURE WHAT 335 00:51:14,432 --> 00:51:16,234 IS MEANT BY OTHER CITY DOCUMENTS. 336 00:51:16,234 --> 00:51:21,105 MAY I SUGGEST ADDING IN THE CONTEXT A LITTLE, RESPONSE TO 337 00:51:21,105 --> 00:51:24,705 CITIZEN INPUT. COMMISSIONER OHLRICH SPOKE ABOUT 338 00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:28,709 OR SOMETHING SIMPLE TO ADD CONTEXT. 339 00:51:29,113 --> 00:51:33,984 FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE GET WHAT COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH WAS 340 00:51:33,984 --> 00:51:38,322 TRYING TO STATE. SO OUR ANSWER IS, THIS IS UNDER 341 00:51:38,322 --> 00:51:42,226 COMMISSIONER OHLRICH'S REMARKS. BECAUSE SHE REITERATED THE TOPIC 342 00:51:42,226 --> 00:51:45,596 AS A RESULT OF CITIZENS' INPUT RECEIVED, WE BELIEVE THIS IS 343 00:51:45,596 --> 00:51:48,199 SOMETHING THAT WE MAYBE NEEDED TO ELABORATE MORE ON. 344 00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:53,203 THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT THERE IN THAT CONTEXT. 345 00:51:53,203 --> 00:51:58,300 HOWEVER, ONCE IT WAS MENTIONED COMMISSION DISCUSSION ENSUED 346 00:51:59,276 --> 00:52:01,411 MORE, YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT IT MORE. 347 00:52:01,411 --> 00:52:03,215 THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT THERE LIKE THAT. 348 00:52:03,215 --> 00:52:09,353 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO CHIME IN BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT YOU. 349 00:52:09,353 --> 00:52:13,690 SO THE CLOSED CAPTIONING IS COMMISSIONER OHLRICH'S STATEMENT 350 00:52:13,690 --> 00:52:16,761 INTERPRETING HOW SHE UNDERSTOOD THE CITIZENS INPUT RECEIVED AND 351 00:52:16,761 --> 00:52:19,229 THEN MINUTES REFLECT COMMISSIONER OHLRICH'S 352 00:52:19,229 --> 00:52:21,165 STATEMENT. THAT'S BASICALLY WE WERE JUST 353 00:52:21,165 --> 00:52:24,235 REFLECTING WHAT COMMISSIONER OHLRICH WAS STATING IN CASE IT 354 00:52:24,235 --> 00:52:27,271 CAME BACK UP LATER. IT WAS IN CONTEXT TO WHAT WAS 355 00:52:27,271 --> 00:52:31,471 BEING DISCUSSED. WE AGREED WITH SOME LANGUAGE 356 00:52:31,909 --> 00:52:35,509 MOVEMENT AND THAT WILL BE REFLECTED. 357 00:52:37,248 --> 00:52:39,450 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: WHEN YOU READ, SOMETIMES YOU READ THESE 358 00:52:39,450 --> 00:52:44,550 OUT OF CONTEXT. WE WERE THERE, BUT IF SOMEBODY 359 00:52:44,550 --> 00:52:47,391 WOULD JUST READ THIS, THE STATEMENT SAYS THAT WE WERE 360 00:52:47,391 --> 00:52:50,394 DISCUSSING REMOVING NEIGHBORHOODS FROM THE COMP 361 00:52:50,394 --> 00:52:52,463 PLAN, IT READ A LITTLE DIFFERENT TO ME. 362 00:52:52,463 --> 00:52:59,663 SO I THOUGHT IF WE ADDED JUST SOME SORT OF CONTEXT AND 363 00:53:00,270 --> 00:53:04,474 MS. GRIGGS AND MS. JOHNSON CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT WAS VERY 364 00:53:04,474 --> 00:53:08,278 SIMPLE, A ONE-LINER THAT WAS IN CONTEXT OF CITIZENS AND THAT WE 365 00:53:08,278 --> 00:53:14,878 DISCUSS IT AS A BODY. >>Mayor Alpert: WE CAN HAVE A 366 00:53:19,689 --> 00:53:22,759 MOTION FOR THE UPDATED. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I MOVE 367 00:53:22,759 --> 00:53:26,359 APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS CHANGED? 368 00:53:26,897 --> 00:53:29,566 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: SECOND. >>Mayor Alpert: COMMISSIONER 369 00:53:29,566 --> 00:53:33,970 OHLRICH MOVED APPROVAL OF THE REGULAR CITY COMMISSION MEETING 370 00:53:33,970 --> 00:53:37,570 OF SEPTEMBER 15 AS AMENDED. COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH 371 00:53:41,312 --> 00:53:44,312 SECONDED. IF YOU'LL VOTE COMMISSIONERS. 372 00:53:46,884 --> 00:53:51,684 IS THAT YOUR VOTE? THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 373 00:53:53,256 --> 00:53:59,256 WE ARE NOW AT ITEM 4.3, THE SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING 374 00:53:59,563 --> 00:54:01,963 OF SEPTEMBER 15. ANY CHANGES? 375 00:54:02,766 --> 00:54:04,402 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: I HAVE NONE. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: MOVE 376 00:54:04,402 --> 00:54:05,635 APPROVAL. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: SECOND. 377 00:54:05,635 --> 00:54:09,139 >>Mayor Alpert: COMMISSIONER OHLRICH MOVED APPROVAL OF THE 378 00:54:09,139 --> 00:54:12,609 SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 15, 2025. 379 00:54:12,609 --> 00:54:14,609 COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH SECONDED. 380 00:54:15,780 --> 00:54:19,878 IF YOU'LL VOTE, COMMISSIONERS. IS THAT YOUR VOTE? 381 00:54:21,850 --> 00:54:25,285 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM 4.4, THESE ARE THE MINUTES 382 00:54:27,892 --> 00:54:32,229 OF THE SPECIAL SARASOTA CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 383 00:54:32,229 --> 00:54:36,232 16, 2025. MAN, WE HAVE BEEN MEETING A LOT. 384 00:54:36,232 --> 00:54:38,902 ANY CORRECTIONS? >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: I HAD NONE. 385 00:54:38,902 --> 00:54:41,571 >>Mayor Alpert: CAN I GET A MOTION? 386 00:54:41,571 --> 00:54:42,639 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: MOVE APPROVAL. 387 00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:44,842 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: SECOND. >>Mayor Alpert: COMMISSIONER 388 00:54:44,842 --> 00:54:47,844 AHEARN-KOCH MOVED APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION 389 00:54:47,844 --> 00:54:50,244 MEETING MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 16, 2025. 390 00:54:51,648 --> 00:54:55,848 COMMISSIONER OHLRICH SECONDED. IF YOU'LL VOTE, COMMISSIONERS. 391 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,720 IS THAT YOUR VOTE? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 392 00:55:01,725 --> 00:55:05,925 OKAY. WE GO NOW TO CONSENT AGENDA 393 00:55:05,929 --> 00:55:10,129 NUMBER 1. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TOON PULLED 394 00:55:10,367 --> 00:55:12,603 FROM CONSENT AGENDA 1? >>Shayla Griggs: YES, MAYOR. 395 00:55:12,603 --> 00:55:18,300 COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH WANTED TO PULL ITEM 6.3 -- IS THAT 396 00:55:18,609 --> 00:55:20,344 CORRECT? >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: 2. 397 00:55:20,344 --> 00:55:21,745 >>Shayla Griggs: SORRY. -- 398 00:55:21,745 --> 00:55:26,545 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: 6.3. >>Shayla Griggs: I THOUGHT I SAW 399 00:55:27,284 --> 00:55:32,684 -- JUST 6.3, CORRECT? I ALSO HAVE A CITIZENS' INPUT 400 00:55:32,692 --> 00:55:39,292 FOR AN AGENDA ITEM ON CONSENT ONE THAT IS NOT PULLED. 401 00:55:39,366 --> 00:55:41,234 >>Mayor Alpert: WHICH ITEM IS THAT? 402 00:55:41,234 --> 00:55:44,834 >>Shayla Griggs: THAT IS FOR ITEM 6.5. 403 00:55:48,308 --> 00:55:51,908 >>Mayor Alpert: LET'S PULL THAT THEN. 404 00:55:53,313 --> 00:55:58,519 DO WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA 405 00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:02,719 WHICH ELIMINATES 6.3 AND 6.5? >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: MOVE 406 00:56:03,256 --> 00:56:06,856 APPROVAL OF THE BALANCE OF CONSENT 1. 407 00:56:07,227 --> 00:56:08,862 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: SECOND. >>Mayor Alpert: COMMISSIONER 408 00:56:08,862 --> 00:56:12,331 OHLRICH MOVED APPROVAL OF THE BALANCE OF CONSENT 1. 409 00:56:12,331 --> 00:56:13,934 COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH SECONDED. 410 00:56:13,934 --> 00:56:18,734 IF YOU'LL VOTE, COMMISSIONERS. IS THAT YOUR VOTE? 411 00:56:21,108 --> 00:56:24,708 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. LET'S GO TO ITEM 6.3. 412 00:56:28,882 --> 00:56:33,219 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: I ASKED THAT THIS ITEM BE PULLED, IF WE COULD 413 00:56:33,219 --> 00:56:38,190 HAVE MS. KELLY COME DOWN FOR A SECOND. 414 00:56:45,999 --> 00:56:51,271 I JUST ASKED THAT THIS BE PULLED SO MS. KELLY COULD MAKE A BRIEF 415 00:56:51,271 --> 00:56:57,271 PRESENTATION ABOUT THE GRANT PROGRAM AND SOME OF THE GRANTS 416 00:56:57,911 --> 00:57:00,113 THAT SHE RECEIVED. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE 417 00:57:00,113 --> 00:57:02,982 COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOODS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROGRAM IS 418 00:57:02,982 --> 00:57:06,653 AVAILABLE AND THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS DO APPLY AND IT 419 00:57:06,653 --> 00:57:09,188 MAKES A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE FOR THEM IN THEIR OUTREACH IN A 420 00:57:09,188 --> 00:57:13,393 LOT OF THE PROGRAMS THEY PUT TOGETHER FOR THEIR COMMUNITY. 421 00:57:13,393 --> 00:57:15,793 >> NANCY KELLY, NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNER. 422 00:57:17,130 --> 00:57:22,369 GREAT TIME TO ASK ME TO COME UP HERE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A RECORD 423 00:57:22,369 --> 00:57:27,169 NUMBER OF SUBMISSIONS THIS YEAR. 18 NEIGHBORHOODS APPLIED, AND 424 00:57:27,874 --> 00:57:33,874 OUR BUDGET IS 40,000 WITH THE 18 GRANTS EQUALS A LITTLE OVER 425 00:57:34,948 --> 00:57:37,348 36,000. THE REMAINING BALANCE WE'VE 426 00:57:39,850 --> 00:57:42,422 ALREADY HAD ABOUT 15 COMMUNITY BUILDING GRANTS WHICH EACH 427 00:57:42,422 --> 00:57:45,425 NEIGHBORHOOD IS ENTITLED TO ONE COMMUNITY BUILDING GRANT FOR 428 00:57:45,425 --> 00:57:47,829 $250 TO HOLD A NEIGHBORHOOD EVENT. 429 00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:53,829 ALREADY RECEIVED ABOUT 15. I'M ALMOST OUT OF MONEY OF THE 430 00:57:54,701 --> 00:57:58,901 40,000. AS I SAID, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 431 00:57:59,973 --> 00:58:02,409 FOR 21 YEARS. IT IS SO THRILLING TO WORK WITH 432 00:58:02,409 --> 00:58:04,645 ALL THESE NEIGHBORHOODS TO HELP THEM. 433 00:58:04,645 --> 00:58:08,715 THEY ARE ALL VOLUNTEER BOARDS. THEY GIVE THEIR OWN TIME. 434 00:58:08,715 --> 00:58:14,454 AND THEY JUST WANT MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TO BE A COMMUNITY. 435 00:58:14,454 --> 00:58:17,124 SO THIS HELPS THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. 436 00:58:17,124 --> 00:58:20,124 POSTCARD MAILINGS, NEWSLETTERS, EVENTS, LANDSCAPING. 437 00:58:22,328 --> 00:58:26,650 IT BRINGS ALL THE RESIDENTS TOGETHER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 438 00:58:26,650 --> 00:58:29,665 I THINK IT'S VALUABLE. ANYTHING ELSE? 439 00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:33,873 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE A SMALL POINT OF 440 00:58:33,873 --> 00:58:36,409 PRIVILEGE AND SAY AS A NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER, BEFORE I 441 00:58:36,409 --> 00:58:42,582 WAS ON THE COMMISSION, I WORKED WITH MS. KELLY IN A VARIETY OF 442 00:58:42,582 --> 00:58:45,418 OTHER CAPACITIES. SHE HAS ALWAYS PUT THE 443 00:58:45,418 --> 00:58:48,154 NEIGHBORHOODS FIRST AND THE INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS AND 444 00:58:48,154 --> 00:58:51,758 THE COMMUNITY FIRST. WHENEVER I GO TO ANY 445 00:58:51,758 --> 00:58:56,558 NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY, SHE'S ALMOST 446 00:58:56,896 --> 00:58:59,899 ALWAYS THERE AND THE NEIGHBORS ALWAYS THANK HER FOR HER HELP, 447 00:58:59,899 --> 00:59:04,103 HER GUIDANCE, AND HER SERVICE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. 448 00:59:04,103 --> 00:59:08,641 >> APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. >>Mayor Alpert: THEY ALL LOVE 449 00:59:08,641 --> 00:59:10,641 NANCY. VICE MAYOR. 450 00:59:15,948 --> 00:59:21,540 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I WANT TO THANK YOU AS SOMEONE WHO WAS A 451 00:59:21,540 --> 00:59:22,254 NEIGHBORHOOD PERSON. A QUESTION. 452 00:59:22,254 --> 00:59:24,724 HOW MANY RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOODS DO WE HAVE IN THE 453 00:59:24,724 --> 00:59:26,724 CITY? BALLPARK. 454 00:59:28,995 --> 00:59:32,332 >> LITTLE OVER 50. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: SO ALREADY 455 00:59:32,332 --> 00:59:36,636 WE'RE GIVING TO 18. YOU CAN ONLY DO ONE A YEAR, SO 456 00:59:36,636 --> 00:59:42,700 WE'VE GOT, WHAT, 32 THAT MIGHT BE VYING FOR THE $4,000 THAT'S 457 00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:44,700 LEFT OVER. >> CORRECT. 458 00:59:45,478 --> 00:59:48,615 OFTENTIMES SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DIDN'T APPLY 459 00:59:48,615 --> 00:59:52,952 WEREN'T PART OF THE 18 HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN COMMUNITY 460 00:59:52,952 --> 00:59:55,870 BUILDING GRANTS. THEY DIDN'T NEED THE FULL 2,000 461 00:59:55,870 --> 00:59:59,625 BUT APPLIED FOR THE 250 AND ALREADY AWARDED THAT. 462 00:59:59,625 --> 01:00:02,161 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: GREAT. I'M REALLY ENTHUSIASTIC BECAUSE 463 01:00:02,161 --> 01:00:06,566 SO MANY OF THE GRANTS WERE FOR COMMUNICATIONS, WHETHER IT WAS 464 01:00:06,566 --> 01:00:10,370 SENDING OUT NOTICES OF MEETINGS, DOING A WEBSITE, DOING 465 01:00:10,370 --> 01:00:12,770 NEWSLETTERS, BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER. 466 01:00:15,674 --> 01:00:21,681 I'M HOPING THAT LEADING UP TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET HEARINGS THAT 467 01:00:21,681 --> 01:00:27,720 MAYBE YOU SUGGEST THAT WE INCREASE THE GRANT FUNDING SO WE 468 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,550 CAN EXTEND THE BENEFITS TO EVEN MORE. 469 01:00:30,550 --> 01:00:32,993 BUT THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING. 470 01:00:32,993 --> 01:00:37,193 ONE MORE THING. NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IN THE 471 01:00:37,263 --> 01:00:41,801 PAST HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERING FOR MANATEE COUNTY, 472 01:00:41,801 --> 01:00:47,640 SARASOTA COUNTY, AND THE CITY. AND THAT WAS SUCH A WORTHWHILE 473 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,609 EVENT. SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU WILL LOOK 474 01:00:49,609 --> 01:00:54,414 INTO DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN IN THE UPCOMING YEAR. 475 01:00:54,414 --> 01:00:56,882 THE SUMMIT, GREAT. THANK YOU. 476 01:00:56,882 --> 01:01:00,482 >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. 477 01:01:02,389 --> 01:01:05,225 I SAW YOU THERE. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: THAT'S 478 01:01:05,225 --> 01:01:08,261 ALL RIGHT. SO THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU DO IS 479 01:01:08,261 --> 01:01:13,661 EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE NOT REMOVED NEIGHBORHOODS FROM THE 480 01:01:14,533 --> 01:01:15,301 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. [ LAUGHTER ] 481 01:01:15,301 --> 01:01:18,901 >> AMEN. >>Mayor Alpert: I WAS THINKING 482 01:01:20,173 --> 01:01:24,373 SAYING THAT, SO I'M GLAD YOU DID. 483 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,784 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE GRANTS AS 484 01:01:29,784 --> 01:01:31,784 PROPOSED. >> SECOND. 485 01:01:32,118 --> 01:01:38,118 >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. THE VICE MAYOR MOVED APPROVAL OF 486 01:01:39,325 --> 01:01:41,725 ITEM 6.3. COMMISSIONER BATTIE SECONDED. 487 01:01:43,866 --> 01:01:48,203 IF YOU WILL VOTE, COMMISSIONERS. IS THAT YOUR VOTE? 488 01:01:48,203 --> 01:01:50,603 ALL RIGHT. PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. 489 01:01:51,740 --> 01:01:58,213 NOW WE HAVE ITEM 6.5. WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO 490 01:01:58,213 --> 01:02:01,813 SPEAK ON THIS. MR. MARTIN HYDE. 491 01:02:08,230 --> 01:02:10,292 >>Shayla Griggs: NONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS PULLED IT. 492 01:02:10,292 --> 01:02:18,920 >>Mayor Alpert: WE ONLY PULLED IT FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK. 493 01:02:24,907 --> 01:02:28,110 >> FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DIDN'T READ THE AGENDA OR THOUGHT THIS 494 01:02:28,110 --> 01:02:32,114 WAS OKAY, MY NAME OBVIOUSLY REMAINS MARTIN HYDE. 495 01:02:32,114 --> 01:02:38,114 IT'S A DE FACTO NO BID CONTRACT EXTENSION BY STEALTH. 496 01:02:39,988 --> 01:02:44,788 MY FIRST QUESTION, WHY PUT $370,000 CLEANING CONTRACT ON 497 01:02:46,594 --> 01:02:51,394 CONSENT TWO MONTHS AFTER THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT EXPIRED? 498 01:02:51,433 --> 01:02:55,370 WHY AFTER FOUR YEARS ISN'T IT REBID? 499 01:02:55,370 --> 01:02:58,873 BECAUSE THEY ARE ASKING FOR A 20% INCREASE. 500 01:02:58,873 --> 01:03:02,677 NOW, IT DOES STIPULATE OR STATE WITHIN THERE THAT THESE ARE 501 01:03:02,677 --> 01:03:04,679 ADDITIONAL SERVICES. BUT IF THINGS HAVE CHANGED, 502 01:03:04,679 --> 01:03:08,984 THINGS HAVE CHANGED. ONE MIGHT REASONABLY SAY OR HOPE 503 01:03:08,984 --> 01:03:11,953 THAT SOMEONE WOULD ASK THE QUESTION, WHY NONE OF YOU ASK 504 01:03:11,953 --> 01:03:15,891 ABOUT IT WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT A DEFICIT DESPITE A 505 01:03:15,891 --> 01:03:18,760 9% MILLAGE INCREASE. OBVIOUSLY ONLY YOU CAN ANSWER. 506 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,165 IT IS, AS I SAID, 20% INCREASE ON THE CURRENT CONTRACT, SO IT 507 01:03:23,165 --> 01:03:27,365 DOES MERIT BIDDING OUT. QUESTION RHETORICALLY ASKING, 508 01:03:29,170 --> 01:03:32,941 OBVIOUSLY, IS THIS ACTUALLY YOUR DECISION OR ONE THAT SUITS 509 01:03:32,941 --> 01:03:35,244 STAFF? FOR STAFF IT MEANS NO WORK AND 510 01:03:35,244 --> 01:03:38,914 NO CONSEQUENCES FOR THEM. BUT UNDER YOUR CURRENT BUDGET 511 01:03:38,914 --> 01:03:43,318 CRISIS, ONE MIGHT HOPE STAFF WOULD BE INSTRUCTED TO LOOK FOR 512 01:03:43,318 --> 01:03:45,987 SAVINGS. THAT IS WHAT A CITY MANAGER FOR 513 01:03:45,987 --> 01:03:50,125 20 PLUS GRAND A MONTH SHOULD BE DOING. 514 01:03:50,125 --> 01:03:55,130 OVERALL, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE STORY OF BLOCKBUSTER AND 515 01:03:55,130 --> 01:03:57,232 NETFLIX. BLOCKBUSTER THOUGHT THE GOOD 516 01:03:57,232 --> 01:04:01,203 TIMES WOULD NEVER END. NETFLIX WAS SENDING OUT THEIR 517 01:04:01,203 --> 01:04:04,939 VIDEOS BY MAIL. AND THEY DECIDED IF THEY WERE TO 518 01:04:04,939 --> 01:04:09,100 SURVIVE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO INNOVATE AND ADAPT. 519 01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:14,820 THE LAST BLOCKBUSTER STORE IS ACTUALLY STILL OPEN IN BEND, 520 01:04:14,820 --> 01:04:16,885 OREGON. BUT IT IS THE ONLY ONE. 521 01:04:16,885 --> 01:04:21,850 THE OTHER 4499 ARE CLOSED. MEANWHILE, NETFLIX MARKET 522 01:04:23,892 --> 01:04:28,920 CAPITALIZATION ON THE POSITIVE SIDE IS $527 BILLION. 523 01:04:29,363 --> 01:04:30,699 THE MORAL OF THAT IS FAIRLY CLEAR. 524 01:04:30,699 --> 01:04:34,903 YOU HAVE TO ADAPT TO NEW REALITIES OR YOU HAVE TO FACE 525 01:04:34,903 --> 01:04:40,303 THE INEVITABLE CONSEQUENCES. THE SIMPLE POINT HERE IS A 526 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,460 FAIRLY OBVIOUS ONE. I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD BE 527 01:04:44,460 --> 01:04:47,516 GRABBING EVERY ITEM OF COST, LOOKING FOR SAVINGS AT THIS TIME 528 01:04:47,516 --> 01:04:50,719 ISN'T JUST GOOD SENSE AND GOOD HOUSEKEEPING. 529 01:04:50,719 --> 01:04:55,724 IT IS AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY UNLESS YOU WANT TO BECOME THE 530 01:04:55,724 --> 01:04:58,124 MUNICIPAL EQUIVALENT OF BLOCKBUSTER. 531 01:05:00,662 --> 01:05:05,462 >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, ANY DISCUSSION OR 532 01:05:07,469 --> 01:05:12,269 QUESTIONS OR A MOTION? >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I'LL 533 01:05:19,414 --> 01:05:22,351 MOVE APPROVAL OF AGENDA ITEM 6.5. 534 01:05:22,351 --> 01:05:25,951 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: SECOND. >>Mayor Alpert: COMMISSIONER 535 01:05:28,423 --> 01:05:31,693 OHLRICH MOVED APPROVAL OF AGENDA ITEM 6.5. 536 01:05:31,693 --> 01:05:33,362 COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH SECONDED. 537 01:05:33,362 --> 01:05:38,162 IF YOU'LL VOTE, COMMISSIONERS. IS THAT YOUR VOTE? 538 01:05:40,202 --> 01:05:42,237 ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 539 01:05:42,237 --> 01:05:46,175 THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE ON TO CONSENT AGENDA 540 01:05:46,175 --> 01:05:50,450 NUMBER TWO. ANY ITEMS TO BE PULLED THERE? 541 01:05:50,450 --> 01:05:54,245 >>Shayla Griggs: YES, MAYOR. COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH PULLED 542 01:05:54,582 --> 01:05:59,982 ITEM 7.3 AND 7.4. THAT IS ALL I AM AWARE OF. 543 01:06:01,790 --> 01:06:04,526 >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 544 01:06:04,526 --> 01:06:06,595 BALANCE? YOU'VE GOT TO READ THEM. 545 01:06:06,595 --> 01:06:10,195 SORRY. >>Shayla Griggs: I'LL READ ALL 546 01:06:11,399 --> 01:06:13,668 OF THEM. RESOLUTION 26 R-3358, A 547 01:06:13,668 --> 01:06:15,303 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF 548 01:06:15,303 --> 01:06:19,675 SARASOTA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF 549 01:06:19,675 --> 01:06:23,311 ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION STATE REVOLVING FUND LOAN PROGRAM, 550 01:06:23,311 --> 01:06:28,111 MAKING FINDINGS, AUTHORIZING AMENDMENT 1 TO LOAN AGREEMENT DW 551 01:06:28,684 --> 01:06:31,684 580250, PROVIDING ASSURANCES, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, 552 01:06:32,220 --> 01:06:35,220 SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 553 01:06:36,625 --> 01:06:37,893 RESOLUTION 26 R-3359, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY 554 01:06:37,893 --> 01:06:40,695 COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SARASOTA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO 555 01:06:40,695 --> 01:06:44,232 THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION STATE 556 01:06:44,232 --> 01:06:47,502 REVOLVING FUND LOAN PROGRAM, MAKING FINDINGS, AUTHORIZING 557 01:06:47,502 --> 01:06:51,702 AMENDMENT 1 TO LOAN AGREEMENT WW 580260, PROVIDING ASSURANCES, 558 01:06:52,574 --> 01:06:56,774 PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS, SEVERABILITY, AND AN EFFECTIVE 559 01:06:57,312 --> 01:07:00,312 DATE. RESOLUTION NUMBER 25-5577, AN 560 01:07:02,984 --> 01:07:05,820 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SARASOTA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE 561 01:07:05,820 --> 01:07:08,924 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE CITY OF SARASOTA, AKA, THE SARASOTA 562 01:07:08,924 --> 01:07:13,795 CITY PLAN, TO REVISE THE TEXT OF ACTION STRATEGY 4.15 OF THE 563 01:07:13,795 --> 01:07:16,565 FUTURE LAND USE CHAPTER TO PROVIDE THAT THE ZONING CODE 564 01:07:16,565 --> 01:07:19,701 RATHER THAN THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IS THE DOCUMENT THAT 565 01:07:19,701 --> 01:07:22,804 CONTAINS THE OFFICIAL MAP OF PRIMARY GRID STREETS AND TO 566 01:07:22,804 --> 01:07:28,204 RELOCATE THE MODIFIED TEXT OF SAID ACTION STRATEGY FROM 567 01:07:28,743 --> 01:07:32,480 OBJECTIVE 4, DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, TO OBJECTIVE 2, LAND 568 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,117 DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, REPEALING ORDINANCES IN 569 01:07:35,117 --> 01:07:37,152 CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR THE SEVERABILITY OF THE PARTS 570 01:07:37,152 --> 01:07:39,687 HEREOF, PROVIDING FOR READING BY TITLE ONLY AND PROVIDING AN 571 01:07:39,687 --> 01:07:42,687 EFFECTIVE DATE. ORDINANCE NUMBER 5580, AN 572 01:07:48,783 --> 01:07:51,520 ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SARASOTA, FLORIDA, TO REZONE 573 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:56,320 THAT CERTAIN VACANT PARCEL OF REAL PROPERTY TOTALING 574 01:07:56,391 --> 01:08:00,162 APPROXIMATELY 1.35 + ACRES LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER 575 01:08:00,162 --> 01:08:04,466 OF ASPINWALL STREET AND RHODES AVENUE WITH A STREET ADDRESS OF 576 01:08:04,466 --> 01:08:09,138 351 NORTH RHODES AVENUE FROM THE OFFICE REGIONAL DISTRICT ORD TO 577 01:08:09,138 --> 01:08:14,376 THE URBAN MIX USE 1 MU-1 ZONE DISTRICT, APPROVING SITE PLAN 578 01:08:14,376 --> 01:08:19,348 APPLICATION NUMBER 24-SP-11 TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF A 17 UNIT 579 01:08:19,348 --> 01:08:22,417 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT TO BE PLATTED AS 580 01:08:22,417 --> 01:08:26,689 INDIVIDUAL LOTS UPON THE REZONED REAL PROPERTY, ALL AS MORE 581 01:08:26,689 --> 01:08:29,658 PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR READING BY TITLE 582 01:08:29,658 --> 01:08:33,258 ONLY, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 583 01:08:36,165 --> 01:08:38,634 >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 584 01:08:38,634 --> 01:08:42,137 CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF AGENDA NUMBER 2, 585 01:08:42,137 --> 01:08:46,908 WHICH IS ITEM 7.1 AND 7.2? >>Kyle Battie: SO MOVED. 586 01:08:46,908 --> 01:08:48,711 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: SECOND. >>Mayor Alpert: COMMISSIONER 587 01:08:48,711 --> 01:08:53,480 BATTIE MOVED TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF CONSENT AGENDA NUMBER 588 01:08:53,480 --> 01:08:55,448 1 WHICH INCLUDE ITEM 7.1 AND 7.2. 589 01:08:56,585 --> 01:08:59,387 COMMISSIONER OHLRICH SECONDED. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: THAT'S 590 01:08:59,387 --> 01:09:03,580 CONSENT AGENDA 2. >>Mayor Alpert: I SAID ONE. 591 01:09:03,580 --> 01:09:05,193 CONSENT AGENDA 2. THANK YOU. 592 01:09:05,193 --> 01:09:07,262 >>Shayla Griggs: ALSO ROLL CALL. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: YES. 593 01:09:07,262 --> 01:09:08,930 >>Mayor Alpert: YES. >>Kyle Battie: YES. 594 01:09:08,930 --> 01:09:13,130 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: YES. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: YES. 595 01:09:13,201 --> 01:09:15,671 >>Mayor Alpert: OKAY. NOW GOING TO -- IS THAT YOUR 596 01:09:15,671 --> 01:09:17,671 VOTE, COMMISSIONERS? >> YES. 597 01:09:19,408 --> 01:09:22,411 >>Shayla Griggs: MOTION PASSES. >>Mayor Alpert: TRYING TO FINISH 598 01:09:22,411 --> 01:09:24,811 BY 5 HERE. ITEM 7.3, COMMISSIONER 599 01:09:26,248 --> 01:09:28,650 AHEARN-KOCH, YOU PULLED THAT. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: I PULLED THIS 600 01:09:28,650 --> 01:09:32,954 TO HAVE AN EXPRESSED VOTE ON IT. UNLESS ANYBODY HAS COMMENTS, I 601 01:09:32,954 --> 01:09:35,954 MOVE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 25-5577. 602 01:09:36,625 --> 01:09:38,226 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: SECOND. >>Mayor Alpert: COMMISSIONER 603 01:09:38,226 --> 01:09:41,163 AHEARN-KOCH MOVED APPROVAL ON ITEM 7.3. 604 01:09:41,163 --> 01:09:45,363 COMMISSIONER OHLRICH SECONDED. IF YOU'LL VOTE, COMMISSIONERS. 605 01:09:45,367 --> 01:09:47,168 YES. >>Kyle Battie: YES. 606 01:09:47,168 --> 01:09:48,703 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: YES. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: YES. 607 01:09:48,703 --> 01:09:51,806 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: YES. >>Mayor Alpert: IS THAT YOUR 608 01:09:51,806 --> 01:09:54,206 VOTE, COMMISSIONERS? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 609 01:09:55,577 --> 01:09:57,450 ITEM 7.4. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: SAME. 610 01:09:57,450 --> 01:10:00,916 TO HAVE AN EXPRESSED VOTE ON AN ORDINANCE, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY 611 01:10:00,916 --> 01:10:05,716 COMMENTS, I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 25-5580. 612 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,188 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: SECOND. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I WOULD LIKE 613 01:10:07,188 --> 01:10:10,525 TO MAKE A COMMENT, MAYOR. >>Mayor Alpert: SURE. 614 01:10:10,525 --> 01:10:13,795 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR 615 01:10:13,795 --> 01:10:18,667 US TO BE SUPPORTING HABITAT FOR HUMANITY AND THEIR SUPPORT FOR 616 01:10:18,667 --> 01:10:22,671 THE PEOPLE OF SARASOTA IN HELPING TO PROVIDE LOW-INCOME 617 01:10:22,671 --> 01:10:26,871 HOUSING AND OWNERSHIP OF THAT LOW-INCOME HOUSING. 618 01:10:29,677 --> 01:10:32,280 >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. CAN I GET A MOTION? 619 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,280 >>Shayla Griggs: ALREADY DID THAT. 620 01:10:35,417 --> 01:10:37,817 ALSO ROLL CALL. BATTIE? 621 01:10:37,952 --> 01:10:39,154 >>Kyle Battie: YES. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: YES. 622 01:10:39,154 --> 01:10:40,488 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: YES. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: YES. 623 01:10:40,488 --> 01:10:44,688 >>Mayor Alpert: YES. >>Shayla Griggs: MOTION PASSES 624 01:10:46,461 --> 01:10:48,763 5-0. >>Mayor Alpert: MOTION PASSES 625 01:10:48,763 --> 01:10:50,763 5-0. ALL RIGHT. 626 01:10:52,235 --> 01:10:57,350 CITY MANAGER SEARCH UPDATE, ITEM 9 FOR UNFINISHED BUSINESS. 627 01:10:57,506 --> 01:11:01,576 >>Shayla Griggs: THANK YOU. AS OF RIGHT NOW, TODAY, THANK 628 01:11:01,576 --> 01:11:08,316 YOU ALL FOR MEETING WITH THE STRATEGIC -- I MEAN, THE SEARCH 629 01:11:08,316 --> 01:11:12,516 FIRM. HE DEFINITELY STATED THAT HE GOT 630 01:11:12,654 --> 01:11:18,600 A LOT OF FEEDBACK. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THE 631 01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,129 ADVERTISEMENT BEFORE YOU ALL TO REVIEW AT THE NEXT CITY 632 01:11:21,129 --> 01:11:25,666 COMMISSION MEETING. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET ALL OF THAT 633 01:11:25,666 --> 01:11:28,537 COMPILED AND HE CAN GET THAT DONE AND HAVE OFFICIAL 634 01:11:28,537 --> 01:11:31,740 ADVERTISEMENT READY FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW AND HOPEFULLY APPROVE 635 01:11:31,740 --> 01:11:36,540 SO WE CAN KIND OF FORWARD THE PROCESS. 636 01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,348 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: WILL WE BE GETTING THAT AHEAD OF TIME? 637 01:11:40,348 --> 01:11:43,552 >>Shayla Griggs: YES. AS SOON AS WE GET IT, YEAH. 638 01:11:43,552 --> 01:11:47,823 >>Joseph Polzak: IT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR FORMAL APPROVAL. 639 01:11:47,823 --> 01:11:50,826 >>Shayla Griggs: THAT'S ALL THE UPDATES WE HAVE. 640 01:11:50,826 --> 01:11:52,961 >>Joseph Polzak: YES, THAT'S IT. >>Mayor Alpert: IF THERE'S 641 01:11:52,961 --> 01:11:58,361 NOTHING ELSE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARING. 642 01:12:01,837 --> 01:12:05,108 I'M GOING TO CALL UPON THE CITY AUDITOR AND CLERK TO ADMINISTER 643 01:12:05,108 --> 01:12:07,375 THE OATH. >>Shayla Griggs: ANYONE WHO 644 01:12:07,375 --> 01:12:09,578 PLANS TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING TODAY, PLEASE STAND AND 645 01:12:09,578 --> 01:12:13,178 TAKE THE OATH. >>Mayor Alpert: ITEM 10.1. 646 01:12:17,819 --> 01:12:20,521 >>Shayla Griggs: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE OR 647 01:12:20,521 --> 01:12:22,724 FACTUAL REPRESENTATIONS WHICH YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE OR PRESENT 648 01:12:22,724 --> 01:12:26,461 TO THIS COMMISSION DURING ANY PUBLIC HEARING HELD THIS 20th 649 01:12:26,461 --> 01:12:29,131 DAY OF OCTOBER, 2025, ARE TRUTHFUL? 650 01:12:29,131 --> 01:12:31,800 THANK YOU. >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. 651 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:37,720 I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED ORDINANCE 652 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,276 25-5583 AND CALL UPON THE CITY AUDITOR AND CLERK TO READ THE 653 01:12:41,276 --> 01:12:42,810 TITLE. >>Shayla Griggs: THANK YOU, 654 01:12:42,810 --> 01:12:44,110 MAYOR. PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH ME. 655 01:12:44,110 --> 01:12:49,351 THIS IS A LONG ONE, EVERYONE. ORDINANCE 25-5583, AN ORDINANCE 656 01:12:49,351 --> 01:12:53,221 OF THE CITY OF SARASOTA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING 657 01:12:53,221 --> 01:12:57,192 CODE 2002 EDITION, ARTICLE II, DEFINITIONS AND RULES OF 658 01:12:57,192 --> 01:12:59,361 CONSTRUCTION, TO MODIFY DEFINITION OF DWELLING UNIT AND 659 01:12:59,361 --> 01:13:03,632 PROTECTED TREE, AND DELETE DEFINITION OF COMMERCIAL PARKING 660 01:13:03,632 --> 01:13:05,967 LOTS, ARTICLE III, DECISION MAKING AND ADMINISTRATIVE 661 01:13:05,967 --> 01:13:08,837 BODIES, TO REMOVE THE CITY COMMISSION AND PLANNING BOARD 662 01:13:08,837 --> 01:13:12,641 AUTHORITY TO APPROVE AND REVIEW SUBDIVISION PLATS CONSISTENT 663 01:13:12,641 --> 01:13:15,977 WITH STATE STATUTE, AND ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT THAT 664 01:13:15,977 --> 01:13:20,281 THE BUILDING OFFICIAL BE APPOINTED BY THE CITY MANAGER; 665 01:13:20,281 --> 01:13:23,985 ARTICLE IV, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCEDURES, TO ESTABLISH THE 666 01:13:23,985 --> 01:13:25,920 ABILITY FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD TO GRANT 667 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:30,158 VARIANCES OR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE MAXIMUM DENSITY WHEN A LOCALLY 668 01:13:30,158 --> 01:13:34,620 DESIGNATED HISTORIC STRUCTURE IS RELOCATED TO A DIFFERENT ZONING 669 01:13:34,620 --> 01:13:37,662 LOT, AND MODIFY SUBDIVISIONS/PLATS STANDARDS; 670 01:13:39,501 --> 01:13:42,437 ARTICLE VI, ZONE DISTRICTS, TO MODIFY BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS 671 01:13:42,437 --> 01:13:47,237 IN DOWNTOWN ZONE DISTRICTS, ELIMINATE STORAGE REQUIREMENT IN 672 01:13:47,342 --> 01:13:49,770 SINGLE-FAMILY ZONES, MODIFY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN 673 01:13:49,770 --> 01:13:52,947 DOWNTOWN ZONE DISTRICTS, MODIFY LANDSCAPING PLAN REQUIREMENTS, 674 01:13:52,947 --> 01:13:57,119 MODIFY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN URBAN MIXED-USE DISTRICTS, AND 675 01:13:57,119 --> 01:14:00,706 AMEND STAGING PLAN REQUIREMENTS; ARTICLE VII, REGULATIONS OF 676 01:14:00,706 --> 01:14:04,610 GENERAL APPLICABILITY, TO MODIFY POOL AND POOL CAGE SETBACKS, 677 01:14:04,610 --> 01:14:07,346 CLARIFY BICYCLE STANDARDS, CLARIFY THAT THE PARKING IS 678 01:14:07,346 --> 01:14:10,248 PROHIBITED IN WATERFRONT SETBACKS, MODIFY RECOMMENDED 679 01:14:10,248 --> 01:14:14,520 TREE LIST, CLARIFY GRAND TREE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, CLARIFY 680 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,823 TREE PROTECTION STANDARDS DURING AN EMERGENCY, MODIFY PLANT 681 01:14:17,823 --> 01:14:21,393 MATERIAL AND INSTALLATION STANDARDS, CLARIFY WINDOW SIGN 682 01:14:21,393 --> 01:14:24,730 PERMIT REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS, AND MODIFY HOW HEIGHT 683 01:14:24,730 --> 01:14:29,135 OF STRUCTURES LESS THAN 30 INCHES ARE MEASURED WITHIN THE 684 01:14:29,135 --> 01:14:32,735 WATERFRONT SETBACK; ARTICLE VIII, ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS 685 01:14:32,871 --> 01:14:37,276 AND PENALTIES TO ADD CERTAIN AGREEMENTS TO BE ENFORCED BY 686 01:14:37,276 --> 01:14:39,812 CODE ENFORCEMENT; FOR SEVERABILITY OF THE PARTS 687 01:14:39,812 --> 01:14:44,160 HEREOF; PROVIDING FOR READING BY TITLE ONLY; AND PROVIDING FOR AN 688 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,284 EFFECTIVE DATE. >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU VERY 689 01:14:45,284 --> 01:14:49,288 MUCH. NOW WE'LL CALL UPON OUR PLANNING 690 01:14:49,288 --> 01:14:53,559 GENERAL MANAGER CHAPDELAIN AND CHIEF PLANNER DOBBS TO MAKE A 691 01:14:53,559 --> 01:14:55,828 PRESENTATION. >>Ryan Chapdelain: THANK YOU. 692 01:14:55,828 --> 01:14:59,264 GOOD MORNING, RYAN CHAPDELAIN, GENERAL MANAGER OF THE PLANNING 693 01:14:59,264 --> 01:15:02,864 DEPARTMENT. AND BRIANA DOBBS, CHIEF PLANNER. 694 01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:08,774 GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE ZTA BATCH THAT MS. GRIGGS JUST READ 695 01:15:08,774 --> 01:15:10,309 OFF. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE, WE 696 01:15:10,309 --> 01:15:15,914 DO THIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, SO THIS IS THE ONE FOR 2025. 697 01:15:15,914 --> 01:15:18,650 WE HAVE ROUGHLY 22 INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. 698 01:15:18,650 --> 01:15:22,850 WE'LL GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THAT. 699 01:15:23,622 --> 01:15:28,393 SEPTEMBER 10, 2025, THE PLANNING BOARD HEARD THIS AND THEY 700 01:15:28,393 --> 01:15:31,130 RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR ALL OF THESE BUT TWO. 701 01:15:31,130 --> 01:15:34,132 AND THAT'S NUMBER 8, LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AND NUMBER 15, 702 01:15:34,132 --> 01:15:37,200 MAXIMUM BUILDING LENGTH. WE'LL GET INTO A LITTLE MORE 703 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,138 DETAIL ON THAT AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION. 704 01:15:39,138 --> 01:15:42,341 ONE OTHER ITEM I WANTED TO MENTION, THERE WAS A ZT ITEM 705 01:15:42,341 --> 01:15:47,790 THAT THE PLANNING BOARD HEARD THAT HAS SINCE BEEN WITHDRAWN 706 01:15:47,790 --> 01:15:50,215 FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING BASED ON THE GUIDANCE OF INTERIM CITY 707 01:15:50,215 --> 01:15:54,286 MANAGER MR. BULLOCK. IT DEALT WITH HOW THE BUILDING 708 01:15:54,286 --> 01:15:56,221 OFFICIAL APPOINTED. SLIGHT CONFLICT BETWEEN THE 709 01:15:56,221 --> 01:15:58,957 ZONING CODE AND CITY CODE. WE BELIEVE THE CITY CODE WILL 710 01:15:58,957 --> 01:16:02,427 PROBABLY BE THE MORE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENT IN WHICH TO MAKE THAT 711 01:16:02,427 --> 01:16:05,130 AMENDMENT. THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD 712 01:16:05,130 --> 01:16:09,134 SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S WITHDRAWN FOR THIS 713 01:16:09,134 --> 01:16:12,604 PARTICULAR HEARING. WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND 714 01:16:12,604 --> 01:16:14,239 GET STARTED. THE FIRST ONE THAT YOU HAVE 715 01:16:14,239 --> 01:16:17,710 BEFORE YOU HERE IS REGARDING ROOFTOP MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT. 716 01:16:17,710 --> 01:16:21,312 THIS IS AN AMENDMENT THAT CLARIFIES THAT EQUIPMENT BE 717 01:16:21,312 --> 01:16:25,250 FULLY SCREENED FROM ALL SIDES. IT ALLOWS DECORATIVE PANELS 718 01:16:25,250 --> 01:16:28,120 INCLUDING METAL TO BE USED PROMOTING VISUAL COMPATIBILITY 719 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,923 AND ADDRESSING ANY CONFUSION RELATED TO PERMITTED SCREENING 720 01:16:30,923 --> 01:16:33,923 MATERIALS. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: MAYOR, 721 01:16:37,162 --> 01:16:42,734 SHOULD WE ASK QUESTIONS AFTER EACH ITEM OR AT THE VERY END? 722 01:16:42,734 --> 01:16:45,538 >>Mayor Alpert: I WOULD PREFER WE WAIT UNTIL THE VERY END SO 723 01:16:45,538 --> 01:16:49,138 THEY CAN GET THROUGH THEIR PRESENTATION. 724 01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:54,546 >>Ryan Chapdelain: NEXT IS DWELLING UNIT DEFINITION WE 725 01:16:54,546 --> 01:16:59,484 RECEIVED A LOT OF PERMIT -- REDOING A HOUSE WITH A POOL. 726 01:16:59,484 --> 01:17:03,555 WANT A DESIGNATED POOL BATH. CURRENTLY IN THE CODE, 727 01:17:03,555 --> 01:17:05,757 DEFINITION OF DWELLING UNIT REQUIRES THAT ALL THE ROOMS HAVE 728 01:17:05,757 --> 01:17:07,959 AN INTERNAL CONNECTION. THIS WOULD MODIFY THAT 729 01:17:07,959 --> 01:17:12,264 DEFINITION TO ALLOW AN ATTACHED ACCESSORY ROOM TO NOT HAVE THAT 730 01:17:12,264 --> 01:17:13,565 INTERNAL CONNECTION TO THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE. 731 01:17:13,565 --> 01:17:17,436 YOU SEE IN THE GRAPHIC THERE, A POOL BATH THAT WOULDN'T CONNECT 732 01:17:17,436 --> 01:17:22,707 INTO THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE. UTILITY ROOM OR STORAGE ROOM 733 01:17:22,707 --> 01:17:26,978 COULD ALSO HAVE THAT SAME TYPE OF COMPONENT. 734 01:17:26,978 --> 01:17:28,847 THE NEXT ITEM IS COMMERCIAL PARKING. 735 01:17:28,847 --> 01:17:32,184 RIGHT NOW IN THE CODE WE HAVE TWO COMMERCIAL PARKING 736 01:17:32,184 --> 01:17:36,540 DEFINITIONS. ONE IS A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE 737 01:17:36,540 --> 01:17:39,125 AND THAT IS ENCOMPASSING AS THE OTHER. 738 01:17:39,125 --> 01:17:42,794 WE'LL GO WITH THE MORE ENCOMPASSING DEFINITION TO 739 01:17:42,794 --> 01:17:45,564 MINIMIZE CONFUSION AND REALLY CLARIFY HOW COMMERCIAL PARKING 740 01:17:45,564 --> 01:17:52,738 LOTS AND GARAGES CAN BE USED. IT CAN BE FOUR FEET OR NOT FOUR 741 01:17:52,738 --> 01:17:54,740 FEET. JUST CREATING THAT MORE 742 01:17:54,740 --> 01:17:59,540 ENCOMPASSING DEFINITION OR GOING WITH THAT PARTICULAR DEFINITION. 743 01:18:01,790 --> 01:18:04,616 SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR POOLS. THIS ITEM CLARIFIES THAT A 744 01:18:04,616 --> 01:18:09,870 CONSISTENT FIVE FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR SWIMMING POOLS 745 01:18:09,870 --> 01:18:15,870 AND POOL CAGES HELPS STREAMLINE THE PERMIT REVIEW AND PREVENTS 746 01:18:15,694 --> 01:18:18,230 SITE DESIGN ISSUES. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT 747 01:18:18,230 --> 01:18:21,433 PEOPLE GOING INTO THIS WHEN THEY ARE BUILDING A POOL, THAT THEY 748 01:18:21,433 --> 01:18:26,171 KNOW IT IS A FIVE FOOT SETBACK. IF THE POOL IS FIVE FEET, YOU 749 01:18:26,171 --> 01:18:29,974 WANT TO ERECT THE CAGE LATER ON, THAT MAY CAUSE AN ISSUE. 750 01:18:29,974 --> 01:18:34,947 MAKING IT VERY CLEAR IN THE CODE WHAT THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE. 751 01:18:34,947 --> 01:18:39,551 BICYCLE PARKING, THIS SIMPLY IS JUST CLARIFYING THAT IT APPLIES 752 01:18:39,551 --> 01:18:41,754 TO ALL DEVELOPMENTS OR NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS 753 01:18:41,754 --> 01:18:45,891 EITHER IN THE DOWNTOWN OR OUTSIDE THE DOWNTOWN. 754 01:18:45,891 --> 01:18:50,910 JUST PROVIDING THAT CLARITY WITHIN THE CODE. 755 01:18:50,929 --> 01:18:53,999 LOCATION OF PARKING AND WATERFRONT SETBACKS, AGAIN, MORE 756 01:18:53,999 --> 01:18:56,668 OF A CLARIFICATION WITHIN THE CODE, ENUMERATING IT 757 01:18:56,668 --> 01:19:00,472 SPECIFICALLY IN THE CODE THAT IT CLEARLY STATES THAT PARKING IS 758 01:19:00,472 --> 01:19:04,672 NOT ALLOWED IN ANY REQUIRED WATERFRONT SETBACK. 759 01:19:05,945 --> 01:19:09,140 I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO MS. DOBBS. 760 01:19:09,140 --> 01:19:12,510 >>Briana Dobbs: BRIANA DOBBS, CHIEF PLANNER FOR THE RECORD. 761 01:19:12,510 --> 01:19:15,420 ITEM NUMBER 7, ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO REMOVE THE 762 01:19:15,420 --> 01:19:18,723 TWO-STORY LIMIT IN THE RSM 9 DISTRICT WHICH IS IN LAUREL PARK 763 01:19:18,723 --> 01:19:22,428 WHILE MAINTAINING THE 30-FOOT MAXIMUM HEIGHT, ELIMINATING THE 764 01:19:22,428 --> 01:19:25,970 NUMBER OF STORIES IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE OTHER SINGLE-FAMILY 765 01:19:25,970 --> 01:19:29,101 ZONE DISTRICTS THAT CURRENTLY ARE ONLY MEASURED HEIGHT AND 766 01:19:29,101 --> 01:19:30,669 FEET. ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS AMENDMENT 767 01:19:30,669 --> 01:19:33,669 TO SECTION 6-1005 DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. 768 01:19:33,739 --> 01:19:38,539 THAT'S BEING UPDATED FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THIS CHANGE. 769 01:19:42,848 --> 01:19:48,587 ITEM NUMBER 8 ALLOWS LOTS WITH A FRONT WIDTH OF 30 FEET OR LESS, 770 01:19:48,587 --> 01:19:51,790 WHICH IS TYPICALLY AN ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY HOME OR A TOWNHOME 771 01:19:51,790 --> 01:19:56,610 TO PLANT AN UNDERSTORY TREE WHEN IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO PLANT A 772 01:19:56,610 --> 01:19:58,630 CANOPY TREE TO MEET THE LANDSCAPE PLAN REQUIREMENTS. 773 01:19:58,630 --> 01:20:02,334 THIS APPROACH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING CODE RIGHT TREE, 774 01:20:02,334 --> 01:20:05,604 RIGHT PLACE PRINCIPLE WHICH REQUIRES SITE EVALUATION AND 775 01:20:05,604 --> 01:20:09,289 SPECIE SELECTIONS BASED ON FACTORS SUCH AS UTILITY 776 01:20:09,289 --> 01:20:13,894 CONFLICTS, SOIL CONDITIONS, ROOT SPACING AND MATURE SIZE. 777 01:20:13,894 --> 01:20:18,566 I DO HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF UNDERSTORY TREES THAT ARE 778 01:20:18,566 --> 01:20:22,903 FLORIDA FRIENDLY AND NATIVE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED HERE. 779 01:20:22,903 --> 01:20:27,307 THE ZONING CODE, UNDERSTORY TREE DOES REACH UP TO 35 FEET AT 780 01:20:27,307 --> 01:20:31,507 MATURE SIZE. JUST A COUPLE MORE GRAPHICS. 781 01:20:34,515 --> 01:20:39,915 ITEM NUMBER 9 MOVES INVASIVE AND MISCLASSIFIED SPECIES FROM THE 782 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,720 PROTECTED TREE. RECLINATA CLASS 2 INVASIVE FROM 783 01:20:44,992 --> 01:20:48,696 THE INVASIVE COUNCIL AND SAW PALMETTO DOES NOT MEET THE 784 01:20:48,696 --> 01:20:53,200 PROTECTED TREE DUE TO THE TYPICAL TRUNK HEIGHT. 785 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:57,738 ITEM NUMBER 10, PINK TABEBUIA IS BEING REMOVED FROM THE CITY'S 786 01:20:57,738 --> 01:21:01,876 RECOMMENDED TREE LIST BECAUSE IT IS NOW CONSIDERED A CLASS 2 787 01:21:01,876 --> 01:21:04,277 INVASIVE SPECIES IN SOUTH FLORIDA BY THE FLORIDA INVASIVE 788 01:21:04,277 --> 01:21:06,680 SPECIES COUNCIL. THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT PROHIBIT 789 01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,840 PLANTING THE TREE. IT SIMPLY MEANS IT WILL NO 790 01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,821 LONGER BE PROMOTED AS ONE OF THE CITY'S OPTIONS SINCE IT IS NOW 791 01:21:13,821 --> 01:21:16,821 INVASIVE. ITEM NUMBER 11 REINFORCES THE 792 01:21:18,291 --> 01:21:21,495 EXISTING REQUIREMENT THAT TREE REMOVAL PERMITS FOR GRAND TREES 793 01:21:21,495 --> 01:21:24,331 MUST BE POSTED AND GRAND TREES MUST BE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED WITH 794 01:21:24,331 --> 01:21:27,368 AN ORANGE RIBBON. TREES NOT PROPERLY MARKED WILL 795 01:21:27,368 --> 01:21:32,768 BE SUBJECT TO A FINE. ITEM NUMBER 12 CLARIFIES THAT 796 01:21:33,874 --> 01:21:36,977 THE SUSPENDED TREE PROTECTION STANDARDS ONLY APPLY TO TREES 797 01:21:36,977 --> 01:21:41,248 THAT ARE DEAD, STORM DAMAGED, UPROOTED OR DOWNED AND IT DOES 798 01:21:41,248 --> 01:21:46,480 NOT APPLY TO HEALTHY TREES. ITEM NUMBER 13, EXISTING 799 01:21:49,657 --> 01:21:53,594 REGULATIONS IN THE ZONING CODE ALLOW THREE PALM TREES PLANTED 800 01:21:53,594 --> 01:21:57,465 AT 12 FEET HIGH TO EQUAL TO ONE REQUIRED CANOPY TREE. 801 01:21:57,465 --> 01:22:01,100 THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO REMOVE QUEEN PALM AS 802 01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:05,172 IT IS NOW CONSIDERED A CLASS TWO INVASIVE AND REPLACES WITH A 803 01:22:05,172 --> 01:22:09,143 RIBBON PALM TO COUNT TOWARD THE CANOPY TREE REQUIREMENT AT 3:1 804 01:22:09,143 --> 01:22:12,143 RATIO. RIBBON PALM IS CONSIDERED 805 01:22:13,747 --> 01:22:17,947 FLORIDA FRIENDLY. ITEM 14 MODIFIES THE EXISTING 1O 806 01:22:19,753 --> 01:22:21,154 FINISHED CEILING HEIGHT REQUIREMENT AT THE SIDEWALK 807 01:22:21,154 --> 01:22:25,626 LEVEL TO ONLY APPLY FOR A MINIMUM OF 20 FEET IN DEPTH 808 01:22:25,626 --> 01:22:29,763 INSTEAD OF THE ENTIRE DEPTH OF THE BUILDING, SIMILAR TO THE 809 01:22:29,763 --> 01:22:32,433 HABITABLE SPACE AND FINISHED FLOOR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE 810 01:22:32,433 --> 01:22:36,633 DOWNTOWN CORE AND DOWNTOWN BAYFRONT BALANCING DESIGN 811 01:22:36,704 --> 01:22:39,306 CONSISTENCIES WITH PRIMARY STREET STANDARDS. 812 01:22:39,306 --> 01:22:41,976 HAVE SEEN DEVELOPMENTS HAVING ISSUES MEETING THE 12-FOOT 813 01:22:41,976 --> 01:22:43,844 HEIGHT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEPTH OF THE BUILDING. 814 01:22:43,844 --> 01:22:47,314 MANY TIMES SEE A LINER BUILDING AND THAT WOULD BE LINING A 815 01:22:47,314 --> 01:22:50,184 GARAGE. THE GARAGE WOULD NEED TO STILL 816 01:22:50,184 --> 01:22:51,652 MEET THAT ENTIRE HEIGHT STANDARD. 817 01:22:51,652 --> 01:22:56,356 MIGHT BE NECESSARY TO HAVE THE 12 FEET HEIGHT. 818 01:22:56,356 --> 01:22:59,593 ITEM NUMBER 15 PROPOSES TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM BUILDING 819 01:22:59,593 --> 01:23:03,798 LENGTH FROM 200 TO 250, WHICH ALLOWS MORE DESIGN FLEXIBILITY 820 01:23:03,798 --> 01:23:06,166 WHILE STILL PROTECTING WALKABILITY. 821 01:23:06,166 --> 01:23:09,203 THIS REQUIREMENT IS ONLY APPLICABLE TO THE URBAN MIXED 822 01:23:09,203 --> 01:23:12,406 USE ZONE DISTRICTS WHICH CAN BE FOUND ALONG THE CITY'S 823 01:23:12,406 --> 01:23:15,800 COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS. ONE EXAMPLE OF A BUILDING THAT 824 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:20,147 EXCEEDS THE 200-FOOT LENGTH IS CITRUS SQUARE PHASE TWO WHICH IS 825 01:23:20,147 --> 01:23:24,947 PROVIDED IMAGE ON THE SCREEN. ITEM NUMBER 16 RELOCATES 826 01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:28,556 EXISTING LANGUAGE ABOUT CONSTRUCTION STAGING PLANS FOR 827 01:23:28,556 --> 01:23:32,426 CLARITY AND REINFORCES THAT THESE PLANS ARE REQUIRED FOR 828 01:23:32,426 --> 01:23:34,995 NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. ALL RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION 829 01:23:34,995 --> 01:23:38,265 GREATER THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET AND MAJOR RENOVATIONS GREATER 830 01:23:38,265 --> 01:23:40,634 THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET, EXISTING LANGUAGE AND STANDARDS ARE NOT 831 01:23:40,634 --> 01:23:44,638 BEING CHANGED. THIS IS SIMPLY BEING RELOCATED 832 01:23:44,638 --> 01:23:50,380 TO THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION AND APPLICABILITY OF THE SECTION. 833 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,682 ITEM NUMBER 17 ALLOWS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD TO 834 01:23:54,682 --> 01:23:57,651 GRANT DENSITIES, DENSITY VARIANCES OR ADJUSTMENTS WHEN 835 01:23:57,651 --> 01:24:00,651 RELOCATING LOCALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC STRUCTURES. 836 01:24:00,854 --> 01:24:04,425 THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT PROVIDES RELIEF THAT MAY INCENTIVE 837 01:24:04,425 --> 01:24:06,860 PRESERVING A LOCAL DESIGNATED BUILDING. 838 01:24:06,860 --> 01:24:12,860 THIS IS GOING TO BE USED WITH THE McALPIN HOUSE. 839 01:24:15,836 --> 01:24:18,739 NUMBER 18, SENATE BILL 812 ESTABLISHES AN EXPEDITED 840 01:24:18,739 --> 01:24:23,770 PERMITTING PROCESS THAT ALLOWS ISSUANCE UP TO 75% OF 841 01:24:23,770 --> 01:24:25,613 RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. 842 01:24:25,613 --> 01:24:28,820 PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF FINAL PLAT. 843 01:24:28,820 --> 01:24:32,190 SENATE BILL 784 REQUIRES A PLAT OR REPLAT TO BE APPROVED, 844 01:24:32,190 --> 01:24:35,489 APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS OR DENIED ADMINISTRATIVELY RATHER 845 01:24:35,489 --> 01:24:38,526 THAN GOING TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION. 846 01:24:38,526 --> 01:24:42,296 SO THESE TWO CHANGES LINE THE CITY SUBDIVISIONS AND PLAT 847 01:24:42,296 --> 01:24:46,300 PROCESS WITH THE NEWER SENATE BILLS AS WELL AS NEW STATE 848 01:24:46,300 --> 01:24:49,900 STATUTE. >>Ryan Chapdelain: FEW MORE TO 849 01:24:49,903 --> 01:24:52,903 GO HERE. EXTERIOR FINISH MATERIALS. 850 01:24:54,141 --> 01:24:58,941 PRIMARY STREETS ONLY SPECIFIC EXTERIOR FINISHED MATERIALS ARE 851 01:24:59,446 --> 01:25:03,646 ALLOWED. SEMEN TISSUES FINISH IS A COMMON 852 01:25:05,152 --> 01:25:09,156 MATERIAL ALLOWED AS EXTERIOR. WINDOW SURROUNDS MADE OF METAL 853 01:25:09,156 --> 01:25:12,156 AND PERMITTED ON PRIMARY STREETS. 854 01:25:12,527 --> 01:25:16,727 THIS ADDS CEMENTITIOUS FINISH AS PERMITTED MATERIAL. 855 01:25:22,669 --> 01:25:25,669 ENFORCEMENT REGARDING VIOLATIONS, PENALTIES, REMEDIES, 856 01:25:26,407 --> 01:25:29,410 THIS RELATES TO JUST KIND OF ANOTHER LAYER OF PROTECTION FOR 857 01:25:29,410 --> 01:25:31,412 THE CITY. CURRENTLY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING 858 01:25:31,412 --> 01:25:35,160 AGREEMENTS RELATED TO DENSITY BONUSES AND HISTORIC 859 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:36,617 PRESERVATION TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT RIGHT AGREEMENTS 860 01:25:36,617 --> 01:25:39,420 CURRENTLY ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER TO ENFORCE THESE AGREEMENTS 861 01:25:39,420 --> 01:25:42,289 THROUGH THE BUILDING DIVISION AND CODE ENFORCEMENT 862 01:25:42,289 --> 01:25:43,957 PROCEEDINGS. THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE CODIFIES 863 01:25:43,957 --> 01:25:48,195 THIS IN THE ZONING CODE. THAT THE CITY MANAGER MAY 864 01:25:48,195 --> 01:25:52,299 ENFORCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, DENSITY BONUS AGREEMENTS AND 865 01:25:52,299 --> 01:25:54,902 HISTORIC PRESERVATION TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AGREEMENTS 866 01:25:54,902 --> 01:25:57,204 FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS. 867 01:25:57,204 --> 01:25:59,840 AGAIN, BOTH OF THOSE AGREEMENTS THAT WERE MENTIONED HAVE DEFAULT 868 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,543 PROVISIONS IN THEM. AGAIN, ANOTHER LAYER OF 869 01:26:02,543 --> 01:26:05,612 PROTECTION FOR THE CITY, ONE WE WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S 870 01:26:05,612 --> 01:26:10,785 OFFICE ON TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS INCORPORATED IN THE ZONING CODE. 871 01:26:10,785 --> 01:26:13,720 WINDOW SIGNS, THIS IS PRETTY SIMPLE. 872 01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:17,724 JUST CLARIFYING THAT ADDITIONAL WINDOW SIGN REGULATION APPLYING 873 01:26:17,724 --> 01:26:20,609 SPECIFIC COMMERCIAL ZONE DISTRICTS AND OVERLAY DISTRICTS. 874 01:26:20,609 --> 01:26:22,845 ESSENTIALLY INCLUDING A CROSS-REFERENCE IN THE ZONING 875 01:26:22,845 --> 01:26:28,245 CODE SO THE ADDITIONAL STANDARDS DO NOT GET MISSED. 876 01:26:28,351 --> 01:26:30,886 LASTLY, THIS RELATES TO WATERFRONT PROPERTY AND 877 01:26:30,886 --> 01:26:34,486 SEAWALLS. THERE WAS A ZONING TEXT 878 01:26:34,756 --> 01:26:37,292 AMENDMENT RECENTLY THAT PERMITTED THE HEIGHT OF 879 01:26:37,292 --> 01:26:41,230 SEAWALLS, INCREASE THE PERMITTED HEIGHT OF SEAWALLS TO SUPPORT 880 01:26:41,230 --> 01:26:43,899 LONG-TERM SHORELINE PROTECTION AND RESILIENCY. 881 01:26:43,899 --> 01:26:47,702 TO DO THAT, PROPERTY OWNERS MAY BE REQUIRED TO BRING ADDITIONAL 882 01:26:47,702 --> 01:26:52,274 FILL TO HELP FORTIFY THE SEAWALL WHICH WOULD INCREASE THE NATURAL 883 01:26:52,274 --> 01:26:54,110 GRADE ABOVE 30 INCHES. PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW 884 01:26:54,110 --> 01:27:00,115 FOR THE HEIGHT OF STRUCTURES NO MORE THAN 30 INCHES IN HEIGHT IN 885 01:27:00,115 --> 01:27:03,819 WATERFRONT SETBACKS, MAYBE A POOL OR A DECK, TO BE MEASURED 886 01:27:03,819 --> 01:27:08,619 FROM THE FINISHED GRADE VERSUS THE NATURAL GRADE. 887 01:27:09,191 --> 01:27:12,191 THAT IS IT. THANK YOU. 888 01:27:17,232 --> 01:27:20,402 >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP 889 01:27:20,402 --> 01:27:22,204 TO SPEAK. WE'LL TAKE THEM FIRST. 890 01:27:22,204 --> 01:27:25,204 THEN WE'LL GET COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. 891 01:27:32,481 --> 01:27:34,881 CALLY BROWN. BROOK FLEMMING. 892 01:27:36,819 --> 01:27:41,900 CHRIS GALLAGHER. I BELIEVE YOU GET FIVE MINUTES. 893 01:27:41,900 --> 01:27:47,900 STATE YOUR NAME AND WHETHER YOU ARE A CITY RESIDENT. 894 01:27:57,573 --> 01:27:59,442 >> KELLY BROWN, PRESIDENT OF SARASOTA COALITION OF 895 01:27:59,442 --> 01:28:03,245 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, BETTER KNOWN AS CCNA, WHICH 896 01:28:03,245 --> 01:28:05,515 REPRESENTS OVER 25,000 HOUSEHOLDS WITHIN THE CITY OF 897 01:28:05,515 --> 01:28:09,180 SARASOTA. WITH RESPECT TO CCNA MEMBER 898 01:28:09,180 --> 01:28:11,253 FOCUS ON PARTICIPATING IN NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT PLANS, 899 01:28:11,253 --> 01:28:14,256 WE ARE ASKING THE CITY COMMISSION TO PULL THE ZONING 900 01:28:14,256 --> 01:28:17,726 TEXT AMENDMENT REQUEST TO MODIFY THE MAXIMUM LENGTH STANDARD FOR 901 01:28:17,726 --> 01:28:21,263 URBAN MIXED-USE ZONE DISTRICT FROM 200 TO 200 FEET FROM THE 902 01:28:21,263 --> 01:28:24,863 BATCH FOR DISCUSSION AND ULTIMATELY DENIAL. 903 01:28:25,670 --> 01:28:27,736 ACCORDING TO CITY STAFF, A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT IS TO 904 01:28:27,736 --> 01:28:30,939 RESOLVE AN INCONSISTENCY OR MAKE A CORRECTION. 905 01:28:30,939 --> 01:28:34,143 WE DO NOT BELIEVE THIS REQUEST FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY. 906 01:28:34,143 --> 01:28:36,412 THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT ZONING CHANGE REQUEST THAT SHOULD BE 907 01:28:36,412 --> 01:28:40,160 CONSIDERED ACCORDINGLY. THE STANDARD -- CURRENT STANDARD 908 01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,617 OF 200 FEET HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR ONE YEAR. 909 01:28:42,617 --> 01:28:46,890 WITH THE ORIGINAL STANDARD PRESENTED LAST YEAR ASKED FOR 910 01:28:46,890 --> 01:28:50,159 300 FEET FOR DEVELOPMENT USE. CITY LEADERSHIP DID NOT APPROVE 911 01:28:50,159 --> 01:28:53,950 AT THAT TIME. WHEN CCNA REVIEWED THE 912 01:28:53,950 --> 01:28:56,198 RECOMMENDED BATCH WITH CITY STAFF WEEKS AGO, WE ASKED FOR 913 01:28:56,198 --> 01:28:59,602 CLARIFICATION AS TO WHERE EACH REQUEST FOR CHANGE ORIGINATED. 914 01:28:59,602 --> 01:29:03,272 PER STAFF, THIS REQUEST IS A DEVELOPMENT ARCHITECT REQUEST. 915 01:29:03,272 --> 01:29:07,420 STATED REASON IS THE DIFFICULTY WORKING WITH THE 200-FOOT. 916 01:29:07,420 --> 01:29:10,450 IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THERE ARE PROJECTS UNDERWAY THAT WERE 917 01:29:10,450 --> 01:29:12,648 ABLE TO WORK WITH THE 200-FOOT RULE. 918 01:29:12,648 --> 01:29:16,318 CCNA DID NOT SUPPORT THE STAFF REQUEST TO INCREASE TO 300 FEET. 919 01:29:16,318 --> 01:29:20,190 CITY STAFF THEN ADJUSTED TO 250 FEET AFTER OUR CONVERSATIONS. 920 01:29:20,190 --> 01:29:24,694 WE WERE UP FRONT WITH CITY STAFF THAT WE DID NOT SUPPORT 921 01:29:24,694 --> 01:29:26,262 250-FOOT. CCNA DOES NOT SUPPORT A CHANGE 922 01:29:26,262 --> 01:29:30,132 FROM THE 200-FOOT STANDARD THAT IS ONLY ONE YEAR OLD. 923 01:29:30,132 --> 01:29:33,732 CURRENT CODE ALLOWS ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF A 25% 924 01:29:35,300 --> 01:29:37,740 VARIANCE LEEWAY WHERE BY IF 250-FOOT INCREASE IS APPROVED 925 01:29:37,740 --> 01:29:41,277 THE RESULT WOULD BE OVER 300-FOOT BUILDINGS. 926 01:29:41,277 --> 01:29:43,479 CCNA SPOKE TO THE ISSUE AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING WHO 927 01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:48,350 ULTIMATELY DENIED UNANIMOUSLY. WITH THE REALITY OF SB 180, THE 928 01:29:48,350 --> 01:29:52,388 CITY AND OUR RESIDENTS WILL BE OBLIGATED TO THIS REQUESTED 929 01:29:52,388 --> 01:29:54,790 INCREASE FOR AN UNKNOWN AMOUNT OF TIME. 930 01:29:54,790 --> 01:30:00,763 DO WE EVEN KNOW HOW MANY PROPERTIES COULD IN EFFECT BUILD 931 01:30:00,763 --> 01:30:03,232 FOOTBALL FIELD LENGTH ADJACENT TO NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE 932 01:30:03,232 --> 01:30:04,767 CORRIDORS. THE REQUEST TO INCREASE THE 933 01:30:04,767 --> 01:30:08,304 LENGTH OF BUILDINGS IN THE URBAN ZONE DISTRICT IS UNNECESSARY AND 934 01:30:08,304 --> 01:30:11,140 IN CONFLICT WITH THE COMMISSION'S DIRECTION JUST ONE 935 01:30:11,140 --> 01:30:12,708 YEAR AGO. PLEASE DENY THIS REQUEST. 936 01:30:12,708 --> 01:30:17,179 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SUPPORT. 937 01:30:17,179 --> 01:30:19,514 APPRECIATE YOU. >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU VERY 938 01:30:19,514 --> 01:30:20,716 MUCH. BROOK FLEMMING. 939 01:30:20,716 --> 01:30:21,585 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. 940 01:30:21,585 --> 01:30:24,720 FOR THE RECORD, BROOK FLEMMING, CERTIFIED PLANNER WITH 941 01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,890 KIMLEY-HORN. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR CLIENT 942 01:30:27,890 --> 01:30:31,394 ORANGE PINEAPPLE, LLC, THE CURRENT OWNERS OF THE McALPIN 943 01:30:31,394 --> 01:30:32,994 HOUSE. WE WANTED TO EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT 944 01:30:32,994 --> 01:30:35,464 OF THE BATCH AMENDMENT SPECIFICALLY ITEM 17 WHICH WILL 945 01:30:35,464 --> 01:30:38,334 AUTHORIZE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD TO PERMIT 946 01:30:38,334 --> 01:30:40,870 VARIANCE OR ADJUSTMENT IN RELATION TO DENSITY PERMITTED ON 947 01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:42,738 A LOT. THIS AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW 948 01:30:42,738 --> 01:30:46,208 FLEXIBILITY FOR THE MOVEMENT OF THE McALPIN HOUSE TO A SITE 949 01:30:46,208 --> 01:30:48,100 MORE SUITABLE FOR ITS PRESERVATION. 950 01:30:48,100 --> 01:30:50,713 WE APPLAUD THE CITY FOR TAKING THIS ON AND THE PLANNING 951 01:30:50,713 --> 01:30:52,915 DEPARTMENT'S WILLINGNESS TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S LAND 952 01:30:52,915 --> 01:30:54,416 DEVELOPMENT CODE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 953 01:30:54,416 --> 01:30:58,160 >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. >> CHRIS GALLAGHER. 954 01:31:05,270 --> 01:31:07,630 I SENT MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, SENT YOU ALL AN 955 01:31:07,630 --> 01:31:12,101 E-MAIL THIS MORNING. NOT SURE IF YOU GOT TO SEE IT. 956 01:31:12,101 --> 01:31:16,773 THIS IS ABOUT THE 200-FOOT LONG BUILDING ONE OF THE OTHER 957 01:31:16,773 --> 01:31:20,142 SPEAKERS JUST SAID THEY UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME IN THE 958 01:31:20,142 --> 01:31:23,450 PROCESS. THERE MAY BE, I'M NOT AWARE OF 959 01:31:23,450 --> 01:31:26,150 THEM, I DO KNOW THAT WE I THINK HAD THE FIRST ONE THAT WAS A 960 01:31:26,150 --> 01:31:32,788 HOTEL UP BY THE AIRPORT WHERE WE HAD TO GET AN ADJUSTMENT FOR 961 01:31:32,788 --> 01:31:38,188 MAYBE 230-FOOT BUILDING. WE DID GET THE ADJUSTMENT, BUT 962 01:31:38,660 --> 01:31:40,396 IT STILL PROVIDED LIMITATIONS ON THAT SITE. 963 01:31:40,396 --> 01:31:43,865 WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER DIFFERENT SITES WITH LONG BLOCKS ON THEM. 964 01:31:43,865 --> 01:31:46,702 THE E-MAIL I SENT YOU THIS MORNING LISTED FIVE DIFFERENT 965 01:31:46,702 --> 01:31:51,720 BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN THAT ALL HAVE WELL IN EXCESS OF 200 FEET. 966 01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:55,144 ARCOS IS 587. LOFTS ON LEMON, AN ENTIRELY 967 01:31:55,144 --> 01:31:59,944 AFFORDABLE PROJECT IS 383 FEET. THE DISTRICT IS 418 FEET. 968 01:32:00,782 --> 01:32:04,382 ON MAIN 315 FEET. CITY WIDE 444 FEET. 969 01:32:04,386 --> 01:32:07,889 AS DESCRIBED EARLIER, EVEN THE TWO PHASES OF CITRUS SQUARE 970 01:32:07,889 --> 01:32:10,158 NORTH AND SOUTH BOTH LONGER THAN 200 FEET. 971 01:32:10,158 --> 01:32:14,162 CITY'S PALM AVENUE PARKING GARAGE IS 257 FEET. 972 01:32:14,162 --> 01:32:17,966 STATE STREET GARAGE WITH ITS 1500 STATE STREET, THE SMALL 973 01:32:17,966 --> 01:32:20,436 CONDOS AT THE END, TOTALS 349 FEET. 974 01:32:20,436 --> 01:32:25,173 PALM AVENUE AND STATE STREET AS YOU KNOW ARE PLACES THAT WE 975 01:32:25,173 --> 01:32:27,442 REGULARLY HOLD CITY FUNCTIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO 976 01:32:27,442 --> 01:32:32,625 BE ATTRACTIVE STREETS. I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THE PROBLEM 977 01:32:32,625 --> 01:32:35,393 IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET GOOD ARCHITECTURE NECESSARILY BECAUSE 978 01:32:35,393 --> 01:32:41,467 YOU MAKE THE BUILDINGS SHORTER. ALSO IN THE PACKET I SENT TO 979 01:32:41,467 --> 01:32:45,337 YOU, I GAVE A COUPLE MORE EXAMPLES, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO 980 01:32:45,337 --> 01:32:50,676 LONDON, ONE OF THE MOST WALKABLE CITIES IN THE WORLD AND IT'S GOT 981 01:32:50,676 --> 01:32:54,747 BLOCK UPON BLOCK WITH TOWN HOUSES THAT GO FAR IN EXCESS OF 982 01:32:54,747 --> 01:32:57,216 200 FEET. I ALSO INCLUDED A BUILDING FROM 983 01:32:57,216 --> 01:33:00,720 MY OWN HOMETOWN OF LOWELL, MASSACHUSETTS, OLD MILL BUILDING 984 01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:04,390 ON WHAT IS A BEAUTIFUL SEAT. MILL BUILDING IS 700 FEET LONG. 985 01:33:04,390 --> 01:33:09,790 VERY SIMPLE BUILDING BUT VERY PLEASANT WALK AS WELL. 986 01:33:11,300 --> 01:33:14,366 AGAIN, I SUGGEST THAT AGAIN YOU'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY 987 01:33:14,366 --> 01:33:19,166 GET GOOD ARCHITECTURE, BETTER WALKABILITY JUST BECAUSE YOU 988 01:33:19,305 --> 01:33:23,375 HAVE A BREAK, TEN FOOT BREAK BETWEEN BUILDINGS. 989 01:33:23,375 --> 01:33:27,613 THINK OF ALL OF MAIN STREET. DO OUR BEST NOT TO HAVE BREAKS 990 01:33:27,613 --> 01:33:30,716 BETWEEN BUILDINGS THAT THEY CONTINUE ON FOREVER FROM BLOCK 991 01:33:30,716 --> 01:33:35,121 END TO BLOCK END. THAT EXHIBIT I PUT UP THERE, B 992 01:33:35,121 --> 01:33:37,389 IS WHAT THE LIMITATIONS WOULD PLACE ON US. 993 01:33:37,389 --> 01:33:40,926 COULD YOU MOVE THAT UP A TINY BIT? 994 01:33:40,926 --> 01:33:43,829 IF YOU ARE OVER 200 FEET, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COUPLE OF 995 01:33:43,829 --> 01:33:48,267 BUILDINGS. WHAT THAT MEANS IS, AND WITH A 996 01:33:48,267 --> 01:33:51,871 10-FOOT SPACE BETWEEN THEM, MY SENSE, 10-FOOT SPACE IS REALLY 997 01:33:51,871 --> 01:33:55,207 KIND OF A SILLY THING. IMAGINE A FOUR-STORY BUILDING 998 01:33:55,207 --> 01:33:58,277 WITH TEN FOOT SPACE, REALLY DOESN'T DO THE JOB EITHER OF 999 01:33:58,277 --> 01:34:01,347 MAKING ANYTHING PLEASANT BUT YOU END UP WITH FOUR STAIRCASES AND 1000 01:34:01,347 --> 01:34:04,417 TWO ELEVATORS. AS OPPOSED TO A SINGLE BUILDING 1001 01:34:04,417 --> 01:34:08,721 WHERE YOU COULD PUT A STAIR AT EACH END. 1002 01:34:08,721 --> 01:34:11,557 SINGLE ELEVATOR. IF YOU DID ALTERNATIVELY DO SOME 1003 01:34:11,557 --> 01:34:15,894 KIND OF RECESS, IF YOU KNOW THE BUILDING, THE ARCOS BUILDING, 1004 01:34:15,894 --> 01:34:20,899 WHICH IS ON A PRIMARY STREET IS ACTUALLY BIGGER THAN THAT THEY 1005 01:34:20,899 --> 01:34:25,171 RECESSED IT WHERE THEY DO THEIR LOADING WHERE THE PARKING GARAGE 1006 01:34:25,171 --> 01:34:27,473 ENTRANCE IS. THERE ARE APARTMENTS ALONG THE 1007 01:34:27,473 --> 01:34:32,577 STREET AND THEN IT FALLS BACK TO THE CORRIDOR, WHICH IS I GUESS 1008 01:34:32,577 --> 01:34:36,182 PROBABLY 25 OR 30 FEET BACK. IF YOU HAD A RECESS IN THAT 1009 01:34:36,182 --> 01:34:42,722 SENSE, YOU GET MUCH BETTER THAN 10 FEET AND YOU GET THE DESIRED 1010 01:34:42,722 --> 01:34:46,492 EFFECT, TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH NOT HAVING A FULL WALL OF BUILDINGS. 1011 01:34:46,492 --> 01:34:51,970 AGAIN, MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU THIS MORNING AND MY 1012 01:34:51,970 --> 01:34:54,134 RECOMMENDATION AGAIN TODAY -- THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY, WE 1013 01:34:54,134 --> 01:34:57,690 DO HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS ON THE BOARDS IN THE MU ZONES. 1014 01:34:57,690 --> 01:35:00,539 I CAN TELL YOU, IT IS A STRUGGLE WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL BLOCK THAT 1015 01:35:00,539 --> 01:35:04,443 IS OVER 200 FEET AND TRYING TO MAKE AN EFFICIENT BUILDING OR 1016 01:35:04,443 --> 01:35:08,130 EFFICIENT SET OF BUILDINGS, IT DOES INHIBIT THE FLEXIBILITY ON 1017 01:35:08,130 --> 01:35:11,950 IT, WHICH LEADS TO COST. THE WHOLE POINT OF THE MU ZONES 1018 01:35:11,950 --> 01:35:15,221 WAS TO ENCOURAGE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THAT GOES IN THE 1019 01:35:15,221 --> 01:35:19,358 WRONG DIRECTION. AGAIN, IF YOU CANNOT SEE PAST 1020 01:35:19,358 --> 01:35:22,962 THE 200 FEET, I DO RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONSIDER ANOTHER 1021 01:35:22,962 --> 01:35:26,310 ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS WHAT I'M PROPOSING IN A ABOVE, WHERE YOU 1022 01:35:26,310 --> 01:35:29,268 DO SOME KIND OF RECESS, SIGNIFICANT RECESS, MORE THAN 1023 01:35:29,268 --> 01:35:32,706 TEN FEET THAT ACTUALLY MAKES IT FEEL LIKE YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING 1024 01:35:32,706 --> 01:35:35,706 SUBSTANTIAL GOING ON. THANK YOU. 1025 01:35:38,377 --> 01:35:40,779 >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU ALL. ALL RIGHT. 1026 01:35:40,779 --> 01:35:46,510 WE WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS, WHICH I SUSPECT THERE 1027 01:35:46,510 --> 01:35:50,851 WILL BE A NUMBER OF THEM. COMMISSIONER OHLRICH. 1028 01:36:03,135 --> 01:36:05,138 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: THANK YOU, MAYOR. 1029 01:36:05,138 --> 01:36:08,741 JUST SO I CAN GET THINGS FIGURED OUT IN MY HEAD, HOW DO WE WANT 1030 01:36:08,741 --> 01:36:13,545 TO DO THIS? WANT ME TO ASK ALL MY QUESTIONS 1031 01:36:13,545 --> 01:36:15,548 FOR EVERY ONE? >>Mayor Alpert: YOU HAVE TEN 1032 01:36:15,548 --> 01:36:16,681 MINUTES. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I HAVE 1033 01:36:16,681 --> 01:36:18,681 TEN MINUTES. EXCELLENT. 1034 01:36:21,954 --> 01:36:27,354 FOR ITEM 1, HAS THE PLANNING BOARD CLARIFICATION BEEN ADDED? 1035 01:36:27,392 --> 01:36:30,129 THEY REQUESTED A CLARIFICATION AT THEIR MEETING? 1036 01:36:30,129 --> 01:36:31,960 >>Ryan Chapdelain: THAT'S CORRECT. 1037 01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:33,432 IT HAS. PARAPET WALLS REQUIRED SCREENING 1038 01:36:33,432 --> 01:36:37,235 TECHNIQUE AND WE HAVE CLARIFIED THAT IN THE LANGUAGE. 1039 01:36:37,235 --> 01:36:38,837 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: THANK YOU. 1040 01:36:38,837 --> 01:36:44,837 ITEM NUMBER 2, THERE'S NO REFERENCE TO A KITCHEN IN THESE 1041 01:36:49,114 --> 01:36:53,314 DWELLING UNITS. SHOULD IT BE EXPLICIT THAT 1042 01:36:54,319 --> 01:36:57,919 THERE'S NO KITCHEN IN THESE UNITS? 1043 01:36:59,925 --> 01:37:01,861 >>Briana Dobbs: NO, I THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE. 1044 01:37:01,861 --> 01:37:04,930 IT DOES SAY ANOTHER LOCATION IN THE ZONING CODE WHEN THERE IS A 1045 01:37:04,930 --> 01:37:07,400 KITCHEN THAT IT IS CONSIDERED AN ADDITIONAL UNIT. 1046 01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,200 THAT'S HOW DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND THEN 1047 01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:12,604 A DWELLING UNIT. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: OKAY. 1048 01:37:12,604 --> 01:37:19,780 AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE MET. 1049 01:37:19,780 --> 01:37:26,852 WHAT ABOUT A GARAGE OR A CARPORT THAT HAS BEEN ENCLOSED AND MADE 1050 01:37:26,852 --> 01:37:30,355 INTO A LIVING UNIT? IS THAT INCLUDED IN THIS? 1051 01:37:30,355 --> 01:37:33,910 >>Briana Dobbs: THAT WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. 1052 01:37:33,910 --> 01:37:34,693 IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: 1053 01:37:34,693 --> 01:37:39,231 DIFFERENT FROM THIS, BUT IT'S ACCOUNTED FOR IN OUR CODE 1054 01:37:39,231 --> 01:37:42,231 SOMEWHERE. >>Briana Dobbs: THAT'S CORRECT. 1055 01:37:48,974 --> 01:37:52,574 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: ITEM 13, PALM TREES. 1056 01:37:53,212 --> 01:37:59,212 I UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE FOR HAVING THREE PALMS EQUAL ONE 1057 01:38:03,989 --> 01:38:10,528 CANOPY TREE, BUT IF THE PALMS ARE SPREAD OUT, THEY SEEM TO ME 1058 01:38:10,528 --> 01:38:13,331 TO EQUAL THREE TREES, NOT ONE CANOPY. 1059 01:38:13,331 --> 01:38:19,331 IS THERE SOMETHING INCLUDED IN THIS ABOUT PROXIMITY TO EACH 1060 01:38:19,438 --> 01:38:24,800 OTHER FOR THE PALM TREES TO MAKE A GROUPING RATHER THAN THREE 1061 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:26,311 INDIVIDUAL PALMS? >>Ryan Chapdelain: WE SPOKE WITH 1062 01:38:26,311 --> 01:38:29,140 THE CITY ARBORIST ABOUT THIS. GOOD QUESTION. 1063 01:38:29,140 --> 01:38:33,752 GENERALLY THEY WILL BE CLUSTERED DEPENDING ON WHAT MIGHT BE 1064 01:38:33,752 --> 01:38:35,688 UNDERGROUND OR IF THERE COULD BE CONFLICTS. 1065 01:38:35,688 --> 01:38:38,233 GENERALLY THE PALM TREES ARE CLUSTERED. 1066 01:38:38,233 --> 01:38:43,105 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: IS THERE WORDING TO ENCOURAGE THAT? 1067 01:38:43,105 --> 01:38:46,574 >>Ryan Chapdelain: THAT IS THE ARBORIST'S MISSION THAT SHE 1068 01:38:46,574 --> 01:38:51,460 STRONGLY ENCOURAGES THAT, WHEN SHE REVIEWS THESE ON A 1069 01:38:51,460 --> 01:38:53,480 CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: YEAH, IF 1070 01:38:53,480 --> 01:38:59,587 WE DON'T HAVE IT IN WORDS, IT'S JUST ONE PERSON ENCOURAGING 1071 01:38:59,587 --> 01:39:04,987 SOMEBODY TO DO SOMETHING, AND THEY CAN SAY NO. 1072 01:39:06,461 --> 01:39:09,264 >>Ryan Chapdelain: THEY COULD. THAT'S GENERALLY BEEN THE 1073 01:39:09,264 --> 01:39:12,867 PRACTICE. AGAIN, THIS IS AN EXISTING CODE 1074 01:39:12,867 --> 01:39:15,336 STANDARD. WE'RE SIMPLY REPLACING WHAT IS 1075 01:39:15,336 --> 01:39:18,807 CONSIDERED INVASIVE TREE NOW WITH A DIFFERENT PALM TREE. 1076 01:39:18,807 --> 01:39:24,807 THAT'S BEEN THE PRACTICE. REQUIRING THAT, WE COULD LOOK AT 1077 01:39:25,981 --> 01:39:29,250 IT JUST MAKING SURE THERE IS NOT A POTENTIAL 180 CONFLICT. 1078 01:39:29,250 --> 01:39:32,821 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: IS THE ARBORIST HERE? 1079 01:39:32,821 --> 01:39:37,210 >>Ryan Chapdelain: SHE IS. >> JACKIE HARTLEY, CITY 1080 01:39:47,169 --> 01:39:49,571 ARBORIST, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. >>Mayor Alpert: BE SURE TO TALK 1081 01:39:49,571 --> 01:39:53,171 INTO THE MICROPHONE. >> JACKIE HARTLEY, DEVELOPMENT 1082 01:39:53,208 --> 01:39:57,408 SERVICES. SO TODAY WE'RE JUST ASKING TO 1083 01:39:57,912 --> 01:40:04,512 REPLACE THE QUEEN PALM WITH THE RIBBON PALM BECAUSE THE QUEEN 1084 01:40:06,870 --> 01:40:12,870 PALM IS A CLASS TWO EXOTIC. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: THAT 1085 01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:22,604 DOESN'T SEEM TO ME TO BE WHAT IT SAYS IN THE FOURTH COLUMN, 1086 01:40:22,604 --> 01:40:25,604 GENERAL DESCRIPTION. ON PAGE 11 OF 85. 1087 01:40:42,290 --> 01:40:47,229 IT SAYS, PERMITS THREE PALM TREES OF A CERTAIN SPECIES TO BE 1088 01:40:47,229 --> 01:40:52,629 CONSIDERED EQUIVALENT TO A CANOPY TREE FOR LANDSCAPING AND 1089 01:40:54,102 --> 01:40:56,504 BUFFERING STANDARDS. >> THAT LANGUAGE IS ALREADY IN 1090 01:40:56,504 --> 01:40:58,106 THERE. WE ALREADY DO CONSIDER THE 1091 01:40:58,106 --> 01:41:03,506 ADDITIONAL PALMS HERE. THREE PALMS FOR ONE CANOPY TREE. 1092 01:41:04,245 --> 01:41:08,583 >>Ryan Chapdelain: PAGE 34 IS THE ACTUAL TEXT THAT'S BEING 1093 01:41:08,583 --> 01:41:11,986 PROPOSED TO BE REVISED IN BACKUP MATERIAL. 1094 01:41:11,986 --> 01:41:13,722 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I DON'T HAVE PAGE 34 IN FRONT OF ME. 1095 01:41:13,722 --> 01:41:15,857 IS IT LONG? >> THREE OF THE FOLLOWING PALMS 1096 01:41:15,857 --> 01:41:21,263 ARE EQUIVALENT TO ONE REQUIRED CANOPY TREE WHEN PLANTED AT THE 1097 01:41:21,263 --> 01:41:27,340 REQUIRED HEIGHT OF 12 FEET AND AS STATED BEFORE THE QUEEN PALM 1098 01:41:27,340 --> 01:41:30,772 IS NOW CONSIDERED NUISANCE EXOTIC SO WE'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT 1099 01:41:30,772 --> 01:41:35,900 OFF AND WE NEEDED TO REPLACE IT. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I SEE. 1100 01:41:35,900 --> 01:41:37,900 CORRECT. THANK YOU. 1101 01:41:39,814 --> 01:41:46,414 MOVING ON, ITEM NUMBER 15, SO THE POINT THAT MS. BROWN FROM 1102 01:41:50,692 --> 01:41:54,892 CCNA MADE IS VERY INTERESTING TO ME. 1103 01:41:57,799 --> 01:42:04,399 IS IT TRUE THAT AN APPLICATION FOR A BUILDING 200 FEET IN 1104 01:42:06,375 --> 01:42:10,445 LENGTH CAN BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED TO BE HOW LONG? 1105 01:42:10,445 --> 01:42:15,183 >>Ryan Chapdelain: THERE IS AN ADJUSTMENT PROCESS UP TO 25% OF 1106 01:42:15,183 --> 01:42:18,620 THAT DIMENSIONAL STANDARD CAN BE REVIEWED ADMINISTRATIVELY IF IT 1107 01:42:18,620 --> 01:42:21,156 EXCEEDS THAT 25% DIMENSIONAL STANDARD, THEN IT WOULD BE A 1108 01:42:21,156 --> 01:42:24,459 PLANNING BOARD ADJUSTMENT. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: IT CAN 1109 01:42:24,459 --> 01:42:28,590 BE LONGER THAN 200 FEET. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: 250. 1110 01:42:29,464 --> 01:42:31,999 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: UP TO. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: WELL, YEAH. 1111 01:42:31,999 --> 01:42:34,999 25% OF 200. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: JUST 1112 01:42:37,472 --> 01:42:42,477 WANTED TO GET CLARITY ON THAT. ITEM NUMBER 21, THE WINDOW 1113 01:42:42,477 --> 01:42:45,180 SIGNS. I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE, THERE 1114 01:42:45,180 --> 01:42:51,180 WAS A LOT OF DETAIL IN YOUR MATERIALS REFERENCING ZONING 1115 01:42:57,358 --> 01:42:59,758 CODE 7-110, 5, 16, 19, ET CETERA. 1116 01:43:01,229 --> 01:43:04,432 I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ST. ARMANDS IS INCLUDED 1117 01:43:04,432 --> 01:43:08,632 SOMEWHERE IN THIS. >>Ryan Chapdelain: IT IS. 1118 01:43:09,838 --> 01:43:13,941 IF YOU SEE CT DOWN THERE, THAT IS A COMMERCIAL TOURIST ZONE 1119 01:43:13,941 --> 01:43:14,842 DISTRICT. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: THAT'S 1120 01:43:14,842 --> 01:43:15,509 WHAT I THOUGHT. THANK YOU. 1121 01:43:15,509 --> 01:43:20,248 THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS, MAYOR. >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. 1122 01:43:20,248 --> 01:43:21,782 WONDERFUL. COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH. 1123 01:43:21,782 --> 01:43:25,787 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. I WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE TWO 1124 01:43:25,787 --> 01:43:28,189 THAT WERE DENIED BY THE PLANNING BOARD. 1125 01:43:28,189 --> 01:43:30,458 ITEM NUMBER 8 AND ITEM NUMBER 15. 1126 01:43:30,458 --> 01:43:36,631 IF YOU COULD JUST PLEASE CLARIFY THE DISCUSSION AT THE PLANNING 1127 01:43:36,631 --> 01:43:39,133 BOARD AND WHAT THEIR REASONING WAS FOR RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL 1128 01:43:39,133 --> 01:43:41,936 FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS, NUMBER 8 AND 15. 1129 01:43:41,936 --> 01:43:44,139 >>Ryan Chapdelain: SURE. NUMBER 8, THERE WAS SOME 1130 01:43:44,139 --> 01:43:47,800 DISCUSSION, I THINK, A COUPLE OF PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS WERE 1131 01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,344 LOOKING FOR SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE APPROACH. 1132 01:43:50,344 --> 01:43:54,415 JUST FOR SOME CONTEXT, WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE 1133 01:43:54,415 --> 01:43:57,885 ARE FEE SIMPLE LOTS GENERALLY 30 FEET OR LESS IN LENGTH. 1134 01:43:57,885 --> 01:44:03,230 THE IDEA WAS IF -- WE TALKED ABOUT UNDERSTORY TREE AND YOU 1135 01:44:03,230 --> 01:44:05,260 SAW THE GRAPHICS IN THE PRESENTATION. 1136 01:44:05,260 --> 01:44:08,563 THE COMPROMISE APPROACH THAT I THINK BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD 1137 01:44:08,563 --> 01:44:13,101 FROM THE PLANNING BOARD WAS THE PREFERENCE IS A CANOPY TREE. 1138 01:44:13,101 --> 01:44:16,771 IF YOU CANNOT DO A CANOPY TREE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, THEN 1139 01:44:16,771 --> 01:44:19,174 AN UNDERSTORY TREE COULD BE AN ADEQUATE SUBSTITUTE. 1140 01:44:19,174 --> 01:44:25,774 AT LEAST IT'S BETTER THAN NOT HAVING ANY TREE AT ALL. 1141 01:44:26,648 --> 01:44:29,250 IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE WHOLE 1142 01:44:29,250 --> 01:44:33,221 RIGHT TREE, RIGHT PLACE PRINCIPLE, MAKING SURE IN TERMS 1143 01:44:33,221 --> 01:44:38,659 OF WHEN YOU HAVE THE SMALL NARROW LOTS, CANOPY TREE, ONCE 1144 01:44:38,659 --> 01:44:43,398 IT IS FULLY MATURE, THE ROOT SYSTEM MAY BE IMPACTING THE 1145 01:44:43,398 --> 01:44:47,936 STRUCTURE OR THE ASPHALT NEARBY, UTILITIES, JUST ENSURING THAT 1146 01:44:47,936 --> 01:44:51,681 THE ROOT SPACING IS APPROPRIATE. GENERALLY THESE TREES I THINK 1147 01:44:51,681 --> 01:44:56,119 ARE PLANTED 30 FEET ON CENTER. JUST MAKING SURE THAT IF WE ARE 1148 01:44:56,119 --> 01:44:59,589 GOING WITH THE CANOPY TREE THERE, IT CAN BE HEALTHY AND 1149 01:44:59,589 --> 01:45:03,493 THRIVE IN THE FUTURE AND NOT SOMETHING REMOVED IN FIVE TO 1150 01:45:03,493 --> 01:45:06,429 SEVEN YEARS. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: ONE OF MY 1151 01:45:06,429 --> 01:45:10,000 QUESTIONS HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THIS IS IN 1152 01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:14,200 THEORY THOUGHT ABOUT FOR FUTURE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT. 1153 01:45:14,571 --> 01:45:21,912 WOULDN'T IT BE WISE TO KEEP IT AND HAVE THEM PLAN AROUND A 1154 01:45:21,912 --> 01:45:27,884 CANOPY TREE, AROUND THE ROOTS THAT ARE GOING TO GROW INSTEAD 1155 01:45:27,884 --> 01:45:34,191 OF SAYING YOU CAN MAXIMIZE THE IMPERVIOUS SPACE AND WE'LL ALLOW 1156 01:45:34,191 --> 01:45:41,991 YOU TO PLANT A TREE THAT HAS LESS CANOPY AND LESS SHADE, LESS 1157 01:45:43,633 --> 01:45:49,633 MASS AND LESS ROOT SYSTEM TO IMPACT YOUR BUILDING, WHO 1158 01:45:50,473 --> 01:45:56,473 WOULDN'T CHOOSE TO DO THAT? WHO WOULDN'T CHOOSE TO MAXIMIZE 1159 01:45:58,148 --> 01:46:02,486 THEIR BUILDING SPACE? WHO WOULD CHOOSE TO SAY, YOU 1160 01:46:02,486 --> 01:46:07,557 KNOW, I'LL VOLUNTARILY PULL BACK ON THE SIZE OF MY UNIT SO I CAN 1161 01:46:07,557 --> 01:46:14,970 PLANT A GINORMOUS GRAND TREE? DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? 1162 01:46:14,970 --> 01:46:19,669 I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE IMPACTS. IF WE ALLOW THEM LESS, THEY WILL 1163 01:46:19,669 --> 01:46:21,838 ALWAYS CHOOSE LESS OF A TREE, RIGHT? 1164 01:46:21,838 --> 01:46:25,174 OR PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M WRONG. 1165 01:46:25,174 --> 01:46:30,800 >>Briana Dobbs: THIS IS ALSO FOR THE LOTS THAT ARE 30 FEET OR 1166 01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:32,490 LESS. MOST COMMONLY THE TOWNHOMES. 1167 01:46:32,490 --> 01:46:37,187 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT DO HAVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT ARE 50 1168 01:46:37,187 --> 01:46:39,723 FEET OR LARGER. WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY DRAFTED 1169 01:46:39,723 --> 01:46:42,859 MORE THINKING ABOUT SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, NOT THE 1170 01:46:42,859 --> 01:46:45,195 IDEAS FROM THE ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY AND JUST WHAT 1171 01:46:45,195 --> 01:46:50,533 WE'VE HEARD, CITY ARBORIST, HAVE YOU SPEAK ON IT AS WELL, JUST 1172 01:46:50,533 --> 01:46:55,472 THE DIFFERENCE REQUIRED BETWEEN THE CANOPY TREES IS LARGER. 1173 01:46:55,472 --> 01:46:58,241 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: LET ME ASK YOU THIS, IN OUR ZONING CODE 1174 01:46:58,241 --> 01:47:00,310 ALREADY, IT TALKS ABOUT A GRAND TREE. 1175 01:47:00,310 --> 01:47:04,948 IF THE GRAND TREE TAKES UP 25% OF THE BUILDABLE LOT, THEN WE 1176 01:47:04,948 --> 01:47:07,551 HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TAKING DOWN, ALLOWING THE REMOVAL OF 1177 01:47:07,551 --> 01:47:12,255 THE GRAND TREE. BUT THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY 1178 01:47:12,255 --> 01:47:15,240 TRIED OTHER ALTERNATE DESIGNS. SHOULD WE HAVE SOME SORT OF 1179 01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:17,628 LANGUAGE THAT THEY HAVE TO DO SOME SORT OF STANDARDS THAT HAVE 1180 01:47:17,628 --> 01:47:21,197 TO BE MET BEFORE WE ALLOW THE UNDERSTORY TREE? 1181 01:47:21,197 --> 01:47:24,834 MY CONCERN IS IF WE ALLOW IT, LIKE, IF YOU CAN'T DO A GRAND, 1182 01:47:24,834 --> 01:47:28,372 THEN YOU CAN DO AN UNDERSTORY TREE. 1183 01:47:28,372 --> 01:47:31,375 THE GOAL WILL BE AN UNDERSTORY TREE. 1184 01:47:31,375 --> 01:47:34,644 IT WILL NEVER TRY TO BE ACHIEVABLE TO MAKE THE BUILDING 1185 01:47:34,644 --> 01:47:38,849 SMALLER, MAKE THE BUILDING, I DON'T KNOW, CURVE, DO SOMETHING 1186 01:47:38,849 --> 01:47:44,849 TO ALLOW GRAND TREE. IF WE REQUIRE SOME SORT OF 1187 01:47:45,322 --> 01:47:51,695 STEPS, MEASURES, PROOF, EXERCISE TAKEN TO SEE IF A GRAND TREE 1188 01:47:51,695 --> 01:47:55,865 INDEED COULD BE HAD AND IF IT CAN'T, THEN AT THAT TIME ALLOW 1189 01:47:55,865 --> 01:47:58,669 FOR AN UNDERSTORY TREE. >>Ryan Chapdelain: THE WAY THIS 1190 01:47:58,669 --> 01:48:01,271 IS DRAFTED, THE BURDEN WOULD BE ON THE DEVELOPER TO DEMONSTRATE 1191 01:48:01,271 --> 01:48:04,700 THAT THE CANOPY TREE IS NOT FEASIBLE. 1192 01:48:04,700 --> 01:48:06,676 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: WE HAVE THE LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT YOU FEEL 1193 01:48:06,676 --> 01:48:11,214 SUFFICIENT REQUIRES THEM TO DEMONSTRATE THAT IT'S NOT -- 1194 01:48:11,214 --> 01:48:15,619 THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO BUILD OR TO PUT IN A GRAND TREE. 1195 01:48:15,619 --> 01:48:19,222 >>Ryan Chapdelain: I DO BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS IS DRAFTED. 1196 01:48:19,222 --> 01:48:21,910 AGAIN, THE PREFERENCE IS THE CANOPY TREE. 1197 01:48:21,910 --> 01:48:26,300 CAN'T DO THE CANOPY TREE, THEN THEY NEED TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY 1198 01:48:26,300 --> 01:48:30,767 CANNOT PROVIDE THE CANOPY TREE. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. 1199 01:48:30,767 --> 01:48:34,637 ITEM 15 AS WELL, CAN YOU CLARIFY AND SUMMARIZE THE PLANNING 1200 01:48:34,637 --> 01:48:38,837 BOARD'S DISCUSSION ON THAT? >>Ryan Chapdelain: SURE. 1201 01:48:40,443 --> 01:48:45,843 THEY WERE UNANIMOUS IN THEIR RECOMMENDING DENIAL FOR THIS 1202 01:48:46,382 --> 01:48:49,285 PARTICULAR ITEM. THE ADJUSTMENT PROCESS WAS 1203 01:48:49,285 --> 01:48:56,359 BROUGHT UP AS IT WAS HERE. AND THEY FELT WITH THAT PROCESS 1204 01:48:56,359 --> 01:48:59,361 THEY DID NOT SUGGEST MAKING THE CHANGE. 1205 01:48:59,361 --> 01:49:01,665 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: DID THEY STATE ANY OTHER REASONS WHY THEY 1206 01:49:01,665 --> 01:49:05,670 DIDN'T SUGGEST LIKE THE DOWN-FALLS OF SUPER BLOCKS OR 1207 01:49:05,670 --> 01:49:08,804 ANY OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? >>Ryan Chapdelain: NO. 1208 01:49:08,804 --> 01:49:10,941 200, 250 FEET GENERALLY WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED A SUPER BLOCK. 1209 01:49:10,941 --> 01:49:17,280 I THINK IT WAS MORE JUST -- I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY OTHER THAN THEY 1210 01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,650 FELT THE NUMBER THAT WAS IN PLACE TODAY WAS SUFFICIENT WITH 1211 01:49:20,650 --> 01:49:26,500 THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THAT ADJUSTMENT PROCESS IF NECESSARY. 1212 01:49:26,222 --> 01:49:28,557 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: I'LL RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE THAT MORE 1213 01:49:28,557 --> 01:49:31,895 THAN 200 FEET IS NOT A SUPER BLOCK. 1214 01:49:31,895 --> 01:49:32,628 ANYWAY, OKAY. THANK YOU. 1215 01:49:32,628 --> 01:49:34,764 THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. >>Mayor Alpert: VICE MAYOR 1216 01:49:34,764 --> 01:49:37,764 TRICE. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: THANK YOU. 1217 01:49:39,269 --> 01:49:45,575 I WANT TO CONFIRM, I HAPPENED TO SEE ON PAGE 34 OF 85 AN ANSWER 1218 01:49:45,575 --> 01:49:50,980 TO COMMISSIONER OHLRICH'S QUESTION AT THE VERY TOP OF THE 1219 01:49:50,980 --> 01:49:55,180 PAGE. IT'S ABOUT THE GROUPING OF THE 1220 01:49:57,530 --> 01:49:58,788 PALMS. AT THE VERY TOP OF THE PAGE, BY 1221 01:49:58,788 --> 01:50:02,792 GROUPING THE SAME SO AS TO CREATE THE EQUIVALENT OF A CROWN 1222 01:50:02,792 --> 01:50:08,192 SPREAD OF 15 FEET. SO THAT WOULD BE RIGHT THERE. 1223 01:50:08,264 --> 01:50:11,735 I BELIEVE THAT ADDRESSES THE CONCERN. 1224 01:50:11,735 --> 01:50:15,935 I HAVE CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS ABOUT NUMBER 15. 1225 01:50:17,273 --> 01:50:23,873 AS YOU KNOW FROM OUR ONE-ON-ONE DISCUSSION YESTERDAY, I THINK WE 1226 01:50:29,952 --> 01:50:32,488 SELECTED 200 ARBITRARILY LAST YEAR AND I WAS THE ONE WHO SAID 1227 01:50:32,488 --> 01:50:37,288 NO MORE THAN 200. SO I APPRECIATE MR. GALLAGHER'S 1228 01:50:41,197 --> 01:50:48,397 CONCERNS, AND I'M NOT INTERESTED AT THIS POINT IN GOING ABOVE THE 1229 01:50:48,838 --> 01:50:52,438 200. BUT MY QUESTION IS, AS OPPOSED 1230 01:50:53,209 --> 01:51:01,900 AS I AM TO MODIFYING THESE LINE ITEMS FROM THE DAIS, WHAT IS 1231 01:51:03,858 --> 01:51:09,997 YOUR OPINION OF REMOVING THAT LINE ITEM VERSUS TRYING TO AMEND 1232 01:51:09,997 --> 01:51:14,337 IT HERE? IS IT BETTER TO REMOVE NUMBER 15 1233 01:51:14,337 --> 01:51:22,137 IF WE CAN'T SUPPORT IT AS IS OR IS IT BETTER TO NEGOTIATE 1234 01:51:22,744 --> 01:51:23,479 CHANGES? >>Ryan Chapdelain: IT'S 1235 01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:26,347 CERTAINLY YOUR PLEASURE. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM IF IT IS 1236 01:51:26,347 --> 01:51:28,747 REMOVED. THAT'S CERTAINLY FINE. 1237 01:51:32,553 --> 01:51:34,322 . >>Vice-Mayor Trice: WHILE I 1238 01:51:34,322 --> 01:51:39,722 APPRECIATE MR. GALLAGHER'S INPUT, I THINK IT WOULD BE 1239 01:51:39,761 --> 01:51:45,767 BETTER FOR HIM TO WORK WITH YOU AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING, 1240 01:51:45,767 --> 01:51:48,903 ALTERNATIVE TO PROPOSE RATHER THAN US COMING UP WITH SOMETHING 1241 01:51:48,903 --> 01:51:53,103 HERE. IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU. 1242 01:51:53,241 --> 01:51:54,442 >>Briana Dobbs: IT DOES. THANK YOU. 1243 01:51:54,442 --> 01:51:55,377 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 1244 01:51:55,377 --> 01:51:57,245 >>Mayor Alpert: COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH. 1245 01:51:57,245 --> 01:52:02,316 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: SO ON PAGE 27 FOR NUMBER 8, AGAIN WITH THE 1246 01:52:02,316 --> 01:52:05,453 CANOPY TREE AND THE UNDERSTORY TREE, CAN YOU SHOW ME IN HERE 1247 01:52:05,453 --> 01:52:12,327 THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THEY SHOULD TRY FOR A CANOPY TREE AND 1248 01:52:12,327 --> 01:52:16,398 IF NOT, UNDERSTORY IS ALLOWED AND WE'LL ASK THEM TO TRY FOR A 1249 01:52:16,398 --> 01:52:19,400 CANOPY TREE? >>Ryan Chapdelain: I'LL READ IT. 1250 01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:23,710 FOR EACH FRONT ZONING LOT LINE LESS THAN 30 FEET IN LENGTH ONE 1251 01:52:23,710 --> 01:52:26,274 CANOPY TREE IS THE REQUIREMENT. UNDERSTORY TREE MAY BE PLANTED 1252 01:52:26,274 --> 01:52:30,145 WHEN A CANOPY TREE IS NOT FEASIBLE. 1253 01:52:30,145 --> 01:52:32,948 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: IS THERE A THRESHOLD OR A DEFINITION OF 1254 01:52:32,948 --> 01:52:35,170 WHEN NOT FEASIBLE. THEY COULD SAY IT'S NOT 1255 01:52:35,170 --> 01:52:37,952 FEASIBLE. >>Ryan Chapdelain: THEY NEED TO 1256 01:52:37,952 --> 01:52:43,625 DEMONSTRATE AS TO THE REASONS WHY IT WOULD NOT BE FEASIBLE. 1257 01:52:43,625 --> 01:52:47,295 >> THEY WOULD DO THAT THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS LIKE DRC. 1258 01:52:47,295 --> 01:52:49,297 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: IN THE ZONING CODE, IT IS VERY SPECIFIC. 1259 01:52:49,297 --> 01:52:51,967 THERE IS A NUMBER THEY HAVE TO TRY, THEY HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE, 1260 01:52:51,967 --> 01:52:55,303 THIS HE HAVE TO SHOW THAT THEY HAVE TRIED ALTERNATE DESIGNS TO 1261 01:52:55,303 --> 01:53:00,575 NOT TAKE DOWN A CANOPY TREE. I KNOW THAT. 1262 01:53:00,575 --> 01:53:05,180 BUT WE HAVE LANGUAGE IN OUR CODE ALREADY THAT SAYS IF A GRANT 1263 01:53:05,180 --> 01:53:12,380 TREE TAKES UP 25% OF THE LOT COVERAGE OR MORE, THEN THERE IS 1264 01:53:12,487 --> 01:53:15,257 A PROCESS TO APPLY TO HAVE THE TREE REMOVED. 1265 01:53:15,257 --> 01:53:19,460 BUT AS A LAST RESORT AND THEY DO HAVE TO SHOW THAT THEY HAVE 1266 01:53:19,460 --> 01:53:21,664 TRIED ALTERNATE DESIGNS AND THERE'S NO WORKING AROUND THAT 1267 01:53:21,664 --> 01:53:27,640 GRAND TREE. SO WE HAVE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS TO 1268 01:53:27,690 --> 01:53:29,938 THE DEVELOPERS, YOU MUST TRY TO KEEP A GRAND TREE AND WORK 1269 01:53:29,938 --> 01:53:34,843 AROUND IT. IF YOU CAN'T, YOU HAVE TO SHOW 1270 01:53:34,843 --> 01:53:38,146 US THAT YOU HAVE TRIED. FOR ME, I DON'T THINK THE 1271 01:53:38,146 --> 01:53:44,185 LANGUAGE IS STRONG ENOUGH IN HERE TO SAY YOU MUST TRY WHEN 1272 01:53:44,185 --> 01:53:47,189 YOU'RE BUILDING YOUR TOWNHOME, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT IT'S 1273 01:53:47,189 --> 01:53:50,492 DESIGNED FOR, YOU MUST TRY TO PLAN YOUR TOWNHOME AROUND A 1274 01:53:50,492 --> 01:53:53,195 GRAND TREE. IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE, THEN YOU 1275 01:53:53,195 --> 01:53:58,990 MUST SHOW US THAT SOMEHOW AND THEN YOU WILL BE ALLOWED FOR AN 1276 01:53:58,990 --> 01:54:01,368 UNDERSTORY TREE. THAT'S NOT MAKING ANY SENSE. 1277 01:54:01,368 --> 01:54:03,838 >>Kyle Battie: THAT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING, IT HAS TO 1278 01:54:03,838 --> 01:54:09,838 BE DEMONSTRATED, THAT GRAND TREE IS NOT FEASIBLE, WOULDN'T FIT, 1279 01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:16,317 WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS AND YOU CAN GO TO AN UNDERSTORY 1280 01:54:16,317 --> 01:54:19,487 TREE. WHEN I SPOKE TO YOU ALL, YOU 1281 01:54:19,487 --> 01:54:25,660 SAID THAT A LOT OF IT WOULD HAVE TO COME DOWN TO BASICALLY IF 1282 01:54:25,660 --> 01:54:30,131 THIS IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TREE ITSELF IN TERMS OF ITS 1283 01:54:30,131 --> 01:54:33,201 ROOTS, THE LIFE OF THE TREE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. 1284 01:54:33,201 --> 01:54:41,100 SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT WOULD APPLY TO THE VERY 1285 01:54:41,342 --> 01:54:44,546 LOGIC WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING TO DEMONSTRATE THAT A 1286 01:54:44,546 --> 01:54:49,217 GRAND TREE IS NOT FEASIBLE OR IS NOT APPLICABLE TO THAT SIZE OR 1287 01:54:49,217 --> 01:54:52,817 WHAT HAVE YOU. AM I CORRECT? 1288 01:54:55,890 --> 01:54:59,227 MY APOLOGIES. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: I SOLICITED 1289 01:54:59,227 --> 01:55:03,531 SOME INPUT ON THIS. BECAUSE I COULD BE READING THIS 1290 01:55:03,531 --> 01:55:06,100 WRONG. MAYBE IN A 30-FOOT LOT, WHEN 1291 01:55:06,100 --> 01:55:09,270 WE'RE THINKING ABOUT TOWNHOMES, GRAND TREES SHOULD NEVER BE 1292 01:55:09,270 --> 01:55:11,239 CONSIDERED. MAYBE WE SHOULD SAY THEY ARE 1293 01:55:11,239 --> 01:55:14,242 NEVER ALLOWED BECAUSE THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE ENOUGH SPACE. 1294 01:55:14,242 --> 01:55:18,379 IF THAT'S THE CASE, MAYBE THAT IS THE DISCUSSION WE SHOULD BE 1295 01:55:18,379 --> 01:55:20,515 HAVING. IF WE WANT TOWNHOMES WITH GRAND 1296 01:55:20,515 --> 01:55:25,586 TREES, IF THAT IS ACTUALLY A REALITY THAT CAN HAPPEN, AND YOU 1297 01:55:25,586 --> 01:55:30,458 HAVE A BLANK SLATE, LIKE A LOT THAT'S COMPLETELY EMPTY AND YOU 1298 01:55:30,458 --> 01:55:34,162 SAY I WANT TO BUILD A TOWNHOME, WELL, THE TREE WILL TAKE UP THIS 1299 01:55:34,162 --> 01:55:36,650 MUCH IF IT'S GOING TO BE A GRAND TREE. 1300 01:55:36,650 --> 01:55:38,799 THIS LEAVES YOU THIS MUCH FOR A TOWNHOME. 1301 01:55:38,799 --> 01:55:43,471 IF YOU SAY TO THEM YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A GRAND TREE. 1302 01:55:43,471 --> 01:55:47,442 YOU COULD HAVE AN UNDERSTORY TREE INSTEAD AND UNDERSTORY TREE 1303 01:55:47,442 --> 01:55:50,878 TAKES UP THIS MUCH, THAT MEANS YOUR TOWNHOME IS THREE TIMES THE 1304 01:55:50,878 --> 01:55:53,148 SIZE, WELL, WHO WOULDN'T CHOOSE THAT? 1305 01:55:53,148 --> 01:55:55,830 WE DON'T WANT UNHEALTHY TREES TO BE PLANTED. 1306 01:55:55,830 --> 01:55:59,153 WE DON'T WANT THEM COMING DOWN EVERY SEVEN YEARS, WHAT WE HOPE 1307 01:55:59,153 --> 01:56:02,790 TO BE A GRAND TREE TURNS INTO NOTHING MORE THAN AN UNDERSTORY 1308 01:56:02,790 --> 01:56:06,528 TREE BEFORE WE HAVE TO KILL IT. I GUESS THAT'S MY CONFUSION, IF 1309 01:56:06,528 --> 01:56:11,767 WE'RE HOPING FOR GRAND TREES AND WE WANT TO INCENTIVIZE THAT, 1310 01:56:11,767 --> 01:56:15,303 LET'S ENCOURAGE THAT AND ENCOURAGE CREATIVE DEVELOPMENT 1311 01:56:15,303 --> 01:56:18,639 TO ALLOW FOR A GRAND TREE TO GROW AND DEVELOP AND BECOME. 1312 01:56:18,639 --> 01:56:21,910 AND IF THAT'S NEVER A POSSIBILITY, WHY DO WE ALLOW IT 1313 01:56:21,910 --> 01:56:24,912 IN THE FIRST PLACE? >>Ryan Chapdelain: WHAT WENT 1314 01:56:24,912 --> 01:56:27,382 BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD WAS JUST THAT, ALLOWING THE 1315 01:56:27,382 --> 01:56:29,717 UNDERSTORY TREE AND NOT HAVING THE CANOPY TREE. 1316 01:56:29,717 --> 01:56:32,253 THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A COMPROMISE APPROACH BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED 1317 01:56:32,253 --> 01:56:34,389 AT THE PLANNING BOARD. I THINK STAFF WOULD BE FINE IF 1318 01:56:34,389 --> 01:56:37,258 YOU WANTED TO JUST GO UNDERSTORY TREE TO PREVENT ANY OF THE 1319 01:56:37,258 --> 01:56:39,393 CONFLICTS IN THE FUTURE ON NARROW LOTS. 1320 01:56:39,393 --> 01:56:43,731 YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: MAYBE THE 1321 01:56:43,731 --> 01:56:45,660 ARBORIST CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. 1322 01:56:45,660 --> 01:56:50,138 ON THESE LOTS, COULD A GRAND TREE NEVER SURVIVE? 1323 01:56:50,138 --> 01:56:54,750 >> SO I THINK WE'RE GETTING -- THERE ARE ONLY FOUR SPECIES THAT 1324 01:56:54,750 --> 01:56:55,544 ARE GRAND TREES. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: FOR THE CITY 1325 01:56:55,544 --> 01:56:58,346 OF SARASOTA, YES. >> THEY ARE PROPOSING THERE ARE 1326 01:56:58,346 --> 01:57:04,346 SEVERAL UNDERSTORY TREES YOU CAN USE AND SEVERAL BENEFITS WITHIN 1327 01:57:04,686 --> 01:57:07,422 A LOT THIS SMALL. I HAVE SOME WRITTEN DOWN. 1328 01:57:07,422 --> 01:57:11,428 SMALLER ROOT SYSTEMS REDUCE IMPACT ON THE UNDERGROUND 1329 01:57:11,428 --> 01:57:15,628 UTILITIES, FOUNDATION, SIDEWALKS AND DRIVEWAYS, ASPHALT AND 1330 01:57:15,633 --> 01:57:18,836 CONCRETE BECAUSE IT'S LESS REPAIR WHEN YOU HAVE SHADE TREES 1331 01:57:18,836 --> 01:57:23,360 OR UNDERSTORY AND SHADE TREES. COMMUNITY CHARACTER. 1332 01:57:23,775 --> 01:57:27,375 IT CREATES A QUAINT, WELL-CONNECTED ATMOSPHERE. 1333 01:57:27,545 --> 01:57:30,647 IT MAINTAINS PROPORTIONAL SCALE WITH NARROW LOTS AND MODEST 1334 01:57:30,647 --> 01:57:33,647 HOMES. IT HELPS WITH STORMWATER 1335 01:57:35,586 --> 01:57:40,191 RECHARGE, AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES IS STORM RESILIENCE, SAFER 1336 01:57:40,191 --> 01:57:45,591 DURING HIGH-WIND EVENTS, LESS ROOT, REDUCES RISK OF UPROOTING 1337 01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,168 TREES. AND ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS 1338 01:57:50,168 --> 01:57:54,968 OFFERS THE SAME ECOLOGICAL BENEFITS AS LARGER TREES. 1339 01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:58,743 FOR EXAMPLE, THEY SEQUESTER CARBON, PROVIDE SHADE AND LOWERS 1340 01:57:58,743 --> 01:58:02,943 HEAT INDEX. ALSO, THE RIGHT TREE, RIGHT 1341 01:58:05,216 --> 01:58:09,555 PLACE SECTION, 7309 OF THE CITY OF SARASOTA ZONING CODE. 1342 01:58:09,555 --> 01:58:12,824 WE HAVE TO HAVE RIGHT TREE, RIGHT PLACE. 1343 01:58:12,824 --> 01:58:16,628 THAT'S THE BIGGEST ONE, I THINK. >>Mayor Alpert: YOU HAD 1344 01:58:16,628 --> 01:58:18,862 SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD SO YOU COULD CLARIFY THIS 1345 01:58:18,862 --> 01:58:24,350 BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GRAND TREE REMOVAL HERE. 1346 01:58:24,350 --> 01:58:26,137 >> ALISON CHRISTIE, GENERAL MANAGER, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 1347 01:58:26,137 --> 01:58:29,773 I DID WANT TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE STATEMENTS MADE THAT, YEAH, 1348 01:58:29,773 --> 01:58:32,576 CANOPY TREES AND GRAND TREES, TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. 1349 01:58:32,576 --> 01:58:35,479 THIS IS SPEAKING TO CANOPY TREES. 1350 01:58:35,479 --> 01:58:37,182 AS RYAN SAID, I THINK IT IS A COMPROMISE. 1351 01:58:37,182 --> 01:58:39,718 THE GOAL OF THE LANGUAGE WAS TO COMPROMISE. 1352 01:58:39,718 --> 01:58:43,421 WE DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE CANOPY TREES, BUT WHERE IT'S NOT 1353 01:58:43,421 --> 01:58:45,323 FEASIBLE THEN WE WOULD ALLOW THE UNDERSTORY. 1354 01:58:45,323 --> 01:58:48,259 THE LANGUAGE IS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING IN THE 1355 01:58:48,259 --> 01:58:51,996 GRAND TREE REMOVAL SECTION, BUT IT GETS TO THE SAME POINT. 1356 01:58:51,996 --> 01:58:56,267 THE 25% FOR GRAND TREE REMOVAL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GIVE US THE 1357 01:58:56,267 --> 01:58:58,936 ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS. THEY JUST HAVE TO GIVE US THE 1358 01:58:58,936 --> 01:59:02,707 SQUARE FOOTAGE AND DEMONSTRATE THE 25% OF THE BUILDABLE AREA OR 1359 01:59:02,707 --> 01:59:05,409 PARKING AREA IS RENDERED UNUSABLE BY THE TREE. 1360 01:59:05,409 --> 01:59:10,150 SO THERE IS A MONETARY -- NOT A MONETARY BUT NUMERICAL VALUE 1361 01:59:10,150 --> 01:59:12,350 THERE THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN THIS LANGUAGE. 1362 01:59:12,350 --> 01:59:15,285 BUT IT STILL HAS TO BE DEMONSTRATED TO US BY THE 1363 01:59:15,285 --> 01:59:18,189 APPLICANT THAT IT'S NOT FEASIBLE, THAT IT WON'T WORK. 1364 01:59:18,189 --> 01:59:19,156 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: THAT'S MY POINT. 1365 01:59:19,156 --> 01:59:23,627 YOU FEEL LIKE THE LANGUAGE HERE REQUIRES IT TO BE DEMONSTRATED 1366 01:59:23,627 --> 01:59:26,630 BY THE APPLICANT IF THEY CANNOT PUT IN A GRAND TREE. 1367 01:59:26,630 --> 01:59:30,769 FOR CLARITY, I'M NOT CONFUSING GRAND TREES AND CANOPY TREES. 1368 01:59:30,769 --> 01:59:34,672 I WANT TO SAY THE LANGUAGE EXISTS IN THE CODE TO HOLD THE 1369 01:59:34,672 --> 01:59:39,177 APPLICANT ACCOUNTABLE TO PROVE IN THAT KIND OF SITUATION. 1370 01:59:39,177 --> 01:59:41,979 I WAS NOT MIXING THE TWO. I WAS SAYING WE HAVE LANGUAGE 1371 01:59:41,979 --> 01:59:44,379 THAT HOLDS APPLICANTS ACCOUNTABLE. 1372 01:59:45,116 --> 01:59:49,854 COULD WE HAVE LANGUAGE IN HERE ALSO TO HOLD APPLICANTS 1373 01:59:49,854 --> 01:59:53,224 ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE ARE WE ENCOURAGING GRAND TREES? 1374 01:59:53,224 --> 01:59:56,326 IF WE ARE, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE. 1375 01:59:56,326 --> 02:00:00,297 IF NOT, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T. >>Mayor Alpert: THAT'S YOUR 1376 02:00:00,297 --> 02:00:02,433 TIME. COMMISSIONER BATTIE, YOU'RE NOT 1377 02:00:02,433 --> 02:00:03,934 SIGNED UP. >>Kyle Battie: NO. 1378 02:00:03,934 --> 02:00:06,803 THANK YOU, MAYOR. >>Mayor Alpert: I HAVEN'T 1379 02:00:06,803 --> 02:00:13,403 WEIGHED IN YET, SO I'LL TALK ABOUT NUMBER 8, THE TREE ISSUE. 1380 02:00:14,812 --> 02:00:21,351 I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED AND KEPT IN 1381 02:00:21,351 --> 02:00:25,551 MIND IS THAT THERE ARE SETBACK STANDARDS. 1382 02:00:28,559 --> 02:00:33,631 YOU CAN'T REQUIRE THEM NOT TO USE THE SETBACK STANDARDS, IF 1383 02:00:33,631 --> 02:00:38,769 THE SETBACK IS NARROW, AND THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BUILD UP TO A 1384 02:00:38,769 --> 02:00:42,906 CERTAIN POINT, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN THEN SAY, WELL, WE'RE NOT 1385 02:00:42,906 --> 02:00:49,460 GOING TO LET YOU USE THAT SETBACK THAT YOU'VE GOT TO SET 1386 02:00:49,460 --> 02:00:51,715 BACK FURTHER BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A CANOPY TREE PLANTED FOR A 1387 02:00:51,715 --> 02:00:55,915 TREE THAT HAS NOT BEEN PLANTED YET. 1388 02:00:56,454 --> 02:01:01,325 BY CHANGING THAT BY SAYING YOU CAN DO A DIFFERENT KIND OF TREE, 1389 02:01:01,325 --> 02:01:05,996 BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE ALLOWED TO BUILD IN THE 1390 02:01:05,996 --> 02:01:09,700 BUILDABLE AREA THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BUILD ACCORDING TO 1391 02:01:09,700 --> 02:01:15,100 OUR ZONING CODE. FOR ME, I THINK NUMBER 8 COVERS 1392 02:01:17,341 --> 02:01:22,146 THAT SITUATION WHICH THEN SAYS IF YOU CAN'T DO IT, THEN WE PUT 1393 02:01:22,146 --> 02:01:28,746 IN ANOTHER TREE THAT IS ALSO VALUABLE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND 1394 02:01:31,756 --> 02:01:38,956 FOR GREEN IN OUR CITY. THEN I WANT TO GO TO ITEM 15 1395 02:01:39,497 --> 02:01:46,970 THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AS WELL. I GET THE VICE MAYOR'S POINT 1396 02:01:48,639 --> 02:01:51,708 ABOUT LEGISLATING FROM HERE WHEN WE AREN'T EXPERTS. 1397 02:01:51,708 --> 02:01:58,916 I THINK THE FACT THAT WE PICKED 200 FEET OUT OF THE AIR, WE 1398 02:01:58,916 --> 02:02:02,919 AREN'T ARCHITECTS. WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE 1399 02:02:02,919 --> 02:02:05,289 THINGS. I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE SERIOUSLY 1400 02:02:05,289 --> 02:02:10,127 PEOPLE WHO DO UNDERSTAND DESIGN AND DO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S NEEDED. 1401 02:02:10,127 --> 02:02:15,299 I THINK IT WOULD BE LUDICROUS TO MAKE TWO BUILDINGS AND CREATE A 1402 02:02:15,299 --> 02:02:20,699 TEN-FOOT ALLEY BETWEEN TWO BUILDINGS WHICH IS CERTAINLY NOT 1403 02:02:21,405 --> 02:02:25,605 ATTRACTIVE. SO ONE BUILDING WITH A SETBACK, 1404 02:02:26,277 --> 02:02:29,213 MAYBE 300 IS THE RIGHT NUMBER. I DON'T KNOW. 1405 02:02:29,213 --> 02:02:34,951 BUT ALL OF THE BUILDINGS THAT MR. GALLAGHER TALKED ABOUT ARE 1406 02:02:34,951 --> 02:02:40,791 ALL REALLY ATTRACTIVE BUILDINGS AND DON'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE 1407 02:02:40,791 --> 02:02:45,429 WALKABILITY OF THE CITY. I THINK A 200 LIMIT IS WAY TOO 1408 02:02:45,429 --> 02:02:49,867 SHORT. I'M FOR MOVING IT UP OR NOT EVEN 1409 02:02:49,867 --> 02:02:52,867 HAVING A LIMIT. ALL RIGHT. 1410 02:02:52,870 --> 02:02:58,870 WE'LL GO TO VICE MAYOR TRICE. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: SINCE YOU 1411 02:02:59,110 --> 02:03:03,581 JUST MENTIONED THE LONG BUILDINGS, AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES 1412 02:03:03,581 --> 02:03:11,550 IN ONE OF THOSE LONG BUILDINGS AND HAS TO WALK THAT LONG, LONG, 1413 02:03:11,550 --> 02:03:17,550 UNBROKEN UP BLOCK REGULARLY, I THINK THEY ARE TOO LONG. 1414 02:03:17,462 --> 02:03:25,700 AND MY OTHER CONCERN WOULD BE IF WE INCREASE THE BY RIGHT LENGTH, 1415 02:03:25,700 --> 02:03:29,208 OKAY, SO WE PUT ONE BUILDING IS PUT HERE. 1416 02:03:29,208 --> 02:03:33,512 AT SOME POINT, SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO COME ALONG AND PUT 1417 02:03:33,512 --> 02:03:36,550 ANOTHER ONE RIGHT NEXT TO IT BY RIGHT. 1418 02:03:36,550 --> 02:03:43,150 SO WE WILL END UP WITH THOSE CORRIDORS LOOKING LIKE MIDNIGHT 1419 02:03:44,890 --> 02:03:49,294 PASS ROAD WITH WALLS, THE LENGTH OF THE ROAD. 1420 02:03:49,294 --> 02:03:54,132 SO I THINK HAVING ADJUSTMENTS WILL BE A BETTER APPROACH AND 1421 02:03:54,132 --> 02:03:58,700 I'M HOPING THAT YOU GUYS CAN WORK WITH MR. GALLAGHER AND 1422 02:03:58,700 --> 02:04:02,441 OTHERS TO COME UP WITH WHAT MIGHT BE BETTER. 1423 02:04:02,441 --> 02:04:07,780 MR. GALLAGHER, I ALSO LIVE IN A SINGLE BUILDING WHICH 1424 02:04:07,780 --> 02:04:11,450 FORTUNATELY HAS TWO ELEVATORS, ONE ON EACH END. 1425 02:04:11,450 --> 02:04:15,755 I WOULD HATE HAVING ONE ELEVATOR AND I HAVE TO WALK A BLOCK TO 1426 02:04:15,755 --> 02:04:19,592 GET IT EVERY TIME I WANT TO USE THE ELEVATOR. 1427 02:04:19,592 --> 02:04:27,392 I WANT TO GET TO 8 AND QUESTIONS FOR OUR ARBORIST ON THE TREES. 1428 02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:33,000 I'M IMAGINING WITH TOWN HOUSE DEVELOPMENTS, THERE WILL BE, 1429 02:04:33,472 --> 02:04:40,720 SAY, I'M GOING TO USE THE NUMBER 6, 30-FOOT WIDE HOUSES BECAUSE 1430 02:04:41,413 --> 02:04:44,884 THAT'S UNDER 200 FEET. SUPPOSE WE HAD A TOWN HOUSE 1431 02:04:44,884 --> 02:04:50,884 DEVELOPMENT THAT APPLIED AND IT WAS 6 30-FOOT WIDE HOMES OR 1432 02:04:54,827 --> 02:04:56,529 PLOTS. WOULD WE UNDER NORMAL 1433 02:04:56,529 --> 02:04:58,764 CIRCUMSTANCE HAVE THE DEVELOPER SAYING, WELL, EACH HOUSE IS 1434 02:04:58,764 --> 02:05:03,564 GOING TO HAVE THE SAME KIND OF TREE. 1435 02:05:05,204 --> 02:05:11,204 IF THAT'S THE CASE, 30 FEET APART CANOPY TREES, MIGHT YOU 1436 02:05:12,811 --> 02:05:17,116 SUGGEST THAT'S TOO CLOSE TOGETHER AND MIGHT YOU THEN EVEN 1437 02:05:17,116 --> 02:05:23,116 BE RECOMMENDING THAT UNDERSTORY TREES WOULD BE A BETTER THING. 1438 02:05:23,122 --> 02:05:25,991 >> CANOPY TREES ARE NORMALLY 30 FEET ON CENTER. 1439 02:05:25,991 --> 02:05:30,130 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: OKAY. IF IT WAS 30 FEET, BUT IF -- CAN 1440 02:05:30,130 --> 02:05:34,733 THEY DO LESS THAN 30 FEET FOR TOWN HOUSE WIDTH? 1441 02:05:34,733 --> 02:05:37,335 >> THEY CAN REDUCE I THINK TO 20 FEET. 1442 02:05:37,335 --> 02:05:40,539 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: IF IT WAS 20 FEET, THEN YOU WOULD RECOMMEND 1443 02:05:40,539 --> 02:05:43,539 AGAINST THE CANOPY TREE. >> DEFINITELY. 1444 02:05:44,209 --> 02:05:47,813 I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST THE 30 FEET, TOO. 1445 02:05:47,813 --> 02:05:52,613 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: SO OUR ARBORIST WOULD BE RECOMMENDING 1446 02:05:53,852 --> 02:05:57,452 AGAINST WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE ZONING. 1447 02:05:57,757 --> 02:06:04,357 THAT LEADS ME TO THINK THAT GOING FOR THE CHANGE FOR 1448 02:06:06,310 --> 02:06:08,901 UNDERSTORY TREES IS MORE -- IT'S BENEFICIAL. 1449 02:06:08,901 --> 02:06:12,501 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: THANK YOU. NEEDED CLARIFICATION. 1450 02:06:12,504 --> 02:06:14,306 THANK YOU. >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. 1451 02:06:14,306 --> 02:06:18,506 COMMISSIONER BATTIE. >>Kyle Battie: THANK YOU, MAYOR. 1452 02:06:18,877 --> 02:06:24,817 JUST SITTING HERE LISTENING OR WHAT HAVE YOU, I THINK ONE OF 1453 02:06:24,817 --> 02:06:30,455 THE MORE IMPORTANT STATEMENTS THAT WAS MADE WAS THAT WE ARE 1454 02:06:30,455 --> 02:06:32,855 NOT EXPERTS. WE'RE NOT. 1455 02:06:36,128 --> 02:06:43,928 PART OF ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT I'VE SEEN WITH THIS CITY FROM 1456 02:06:45,104 --> 02:06:48,940 JUMP STREET IS THERE WAS NO REAL URBAN PLANNING. 1457 02:06:48,940 --> 02:06:53,278 A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WAS BUILT IN PRIOR COMMISSIONS, 1458 02:06:53,278 --> 02:06:59,278 BUILT BY THE COMMISSIONS, NOT BY WHATEVER PROJECTIONS, WHAT THE 1459 02:07:00,352 --> 02:07:03,489 CITY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SO ON AND SO FORTH, BUT TO THE VICE 1460 02:07:03,489 --> 02:07:09,561 MAYOR'S POINT AND TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, TO TRY AND NEGOTIATE LIKE 1461 02:07:09,561 --> 02:07:15,300 BUILDING LENGTH RIGHT HERE AT THE DAIS OR WHAT HAVE YOU 1462 02:07:15,300 --> 02:07:19,972 WITHOUT ANY REAL COMPREHENSIVE AND IN-DEPTH STUDY, BECAUSE THAT 1463 02:07:19,972 --> 02:07:23,842 SPEAKS TO WHAT THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO BE, PARTICULARLY 1464 02:07:23,842 --> 02:07:27,246 TALKING ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND ALL OF THESE 1465 02:07:27,246 --> 02:07:30,515 DIFFERENT THINGS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. 1466 02:07:30,515 --> 02:07:36,515 THAT'S MORE OR LESS A STATEMENT THAN ASKING QUESTIONS OR 1467 02:07:37,756 --> 02:07:42,528 ANYTHING BECAUSE I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE A BIT MORE MINDFUL OF 1468 02:07:42,528 --> 02:07:44,996 WHEN WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THESE THINGS. 1469 02:07:44,996 --> 02:07:48,800 I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS BEING REMOVED OR WHAT HAVE YOU 1470 02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:56,141 AND BEING LOOKED INTO A BIT MORE WITH A MICROPHONE, IF YOU WILL, 1471 02:07:56,141 --> 02:08:00,745 SPEAKING TO ARCHITECTS AND DEVELOPERS AND CITY PLANNERS TO 1472 02:08:00,745 --> 02:08:03,883 TRY AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS APPLICABLE TO WHERE WE 1473 02:08:03,883 --> 02:08:06,285 ARE TODAY AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE TOMORROW. 1474 02:08:06,285 --> 02:08:07,619 THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. 1475 02:08:07,619 --> 02:08:11,219 >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER OHLRICH. 1476 02:08:15,961 --> 02:08:20,365 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO GET BACK HERE, 1477 02:08:20,365 --> 02:08:22,340 RIGHT? I JUST WANTED CLARITY, AND I 1478 02:08:22,340 --> 02:08:27,172 THINK I HAVE IT, THAT ALL CANOPY TREES ARE NOT GRAND TREES. 1479 02:08:27,172 --> 02:08:29,400 >> THIS IS CORRECT. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: OKAY. 1480 02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:30,909 THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. 1481 02:08:30,909 --> 02:08:33,309 >>Mayor Alpert: COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH. 1482 02:08:34,646 --> 02:08:37,583 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: IN THIS TOWNHOME WITH THE 30-FOOT LOTS, 1483 02:08:37,583 --> 02:08:41,453 COULD TWO LOTS COMBINE AND THEN PUT A TREE IN THE MIDDLE, FOR 1484 02:08:41,453 --> 02:08:43,689 EXAMPLE? >>Ryan Chapdelain: GENERALLY 1485 02:08:43,689 --> 02:08:45,691 NOT. THESE ARE GOING TO BE FEE SIMPLE 1486 02:08:45,691 --> 02:08:47,992 LOTS. THEY CAN BE LESS THAN 30 FEET. 1487 02:08:47,992 --> 02:08:50,596 IT IS A STANDARD WE PUT IN THERE. 1488 02:08:50,596 --> 02:08:53,832 BUT CAN BE 20, 25 FEET IN WIDTH. GENERALLY THEY ARE INDIVIDUALLY 1489 02:08:53,832 --> 02:08:55,801 OWNED LOTS. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: WOULD THAT BE 1490 02:08:55,801 --> 02:08:58,670 A POSSIBILITY, LET'S SAY TWO PEOPLE BOUGHT THEM AND SAID 1491 02:08:58,670 --> 02:09:02,908 WE'RE BEST FRIENDS AND WE WOULD LIKE ONE GINORMOUS CANOPY TREE 1492 02:09:02,908 --> 02:09:08,346 AND WE'LL PUT IT MOSTLY ON THIS PERSON'S, ON RYAN'S LOT. 1493 02:09:08,346 --> 02:09:12,651 THE TREE WILL GROW AND BE A BEAUTIFUL GRAND TREE OR CANOPY 1494 02:09:12,651 --> 02:09:17,880 TREE OVER BOTH OUR LOTS, WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THE RATIO OF 1495 02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:20,859 CANOPY TREE, UNDERSTORY TREE? WOULD THAT WORK TOGETHER? 1496 02:09:20,859 --> 02:09:23,795 IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE? 1497 02:09:23,795 --> 02:09:25,230 >>Ryan Chapdelain: I THINK GENERALLY WOULD BE ON THE 1498 02:09:25,230 --> 02:09:30,503 INDIVIDUAL'S LOT. A LOT OF THIS IS DESIGNED PRIOR 1499 02:09:30,503 --> 02:09:34,730 TO THESE UNITS EVER SELLING. NOT SURE WHO THE END USER IS BY 1500 02:09:34,730 --> 02:09:37,110 THE TIME GOING THROUGH THE DRC PROCESS. 1501 02:09:37,110 --> 02:09:39,244 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: THAT WOULD BE A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A 1502 02:09:39,244 --> 02:09:44,851 CANOPY TREE AND AN UNDERSTORY TREE AND THEY COULD LIVE 1503 02:09:44,851 --> 02:09:48,455 TOGETHER AND MAKE LOTS OF SHADE. ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THE LANGUAGE 1504 02:09:48,455 --> 02:09:55,550 THAT IS DRAFTED AS IT IS RIGHT NOW FOR THIS ITEM? 1505 02:09:55,394 --> 02:09:58,197 >>Ryan Chapdelain: BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD AT THE PLANNING BOARD 1506 02:09:58,197 --> 02:10:03,136 AND TODAY, WE THINK IT IS A FAIR COMPROMISE. 1507 02:10:03,136 --> 02:10:04,670 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW 1508 02:10:04,670 --> 02:10:07,700 ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. 1509 02:10:08,607 --> 02:10:11,900 >>Mayor Alpert: OKAY. WHAT WOULD YOU THINK ABOUT 1510 02:10:11,900 --> 02:10:16,409 REMOVING ITEM 15 FOR TODAY SINCE, AGAIN, WE AREN'T EXPERTS 1511 02:10:18,884 --> 02:10:23,550 AND GIVE THIS A LITTLE MORE CONSIDERATION? 1512 02:10:23,550 --> 02:10:27,193 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: WOULD WE NEED CONSENSUS OR A VOTE ON 1513 02:10:27,193 --> 02:10:29,361 REMOVING ITEM 15? >>Mayor Alpert: PROBABLY NEED A 1514 02:10:29,361 --> 02:10:32,231 MOTION. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I MOVE THAT 1515 02:10:32,231 --> 02:10:37,631 WE APPROVE THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT BATCH MINUS NUMBER 15 1516 02:10:37,870 --> 02:10:41,240 DEALING WITH THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING. 1517 02:10:41,240 --> 02:10:42,307 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I'LL SECOND THAT. 1518 02:10:42,307 --> 02:10:48,470 >>Mayor Alpert: MAKER OF THE MOTION, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO 1519 02:10:48,470 --> 02:10:51,470 THAT? >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I THINK 1520 02:10:51,383 --> 02:10:56,783 EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD EXCEPT, AND I APPRECIATE THE ARCHITECT'S 1521 02:10:57,389 --> 02:11:02,728 SUGGESTION THAT THEY WOULD HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY WITH A LONGER 1522 02:11:02,728 --> 02:11:09,601 BUILDING, YET I WOULD HATE TO ENABLE THAT BY RIGHT AND THEN AS 1523 02:11:09,601 --> 02:11:15,341 WE DISCOVERED DURING INFILL, IF WE RUN INTO PROBLEMS, THE 1524 02:11:15,341 --> 02:11:21,941 LEGISLATURE REALLY WOULD MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO CLAW BACK 1525 02:11:22,414 --> 02:11:26,140 THOSE CHANGES. BECAUSE WITH THE 25% ADJUSTMENT 1526 02:11:30,823 --> 02:11:35,623 ADMINISTRATIVELY, THAT WOULD ENABLE 250 FEET ON OUR CURRENT 1527 02:11:36,495 --> 02:11:40,298 ZONING LAW OF 200, I THINK AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING, WE'RE 1528 02:11:40,298 --> 02:11:45,370 IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE DISCUSSION. 1529 02:11:45,370 --> 02:11:48,273 >>Shayla Griggs: MAYOR, CAN YOU STATE THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC 1530 02:11:48,273 --> 02:11:52,245 HEARING BEFORE WE GO DOWN THAT. >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. 1531 02:11:52,245 --> 02:11:55,845 CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. 1532 02:11:58,250 --> 02:12:00,119 COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: COULD YOU 1533 02:12:00,119 --> 02:12:03,119 REPEAT THE MOTION? I'M SORRY. 1534 02:12:04,857 --> 02:12:10,857 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE ORDINANCE 25-5583 1535 02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:19,800 AND PETITION 25-ZTA-01 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM NUMBER 15. 1536 02:12:23,108 --> 02:12:26,110 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: AND ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER 15 1537 02:12:26,110 --> 02:12:28,580 IN A SEPARATE MOTION? >>Vice-Mayor Trice: NO. 1538 02:12:28,580 --> 02:12:32,780 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: IT JUST GETS REMOVED COMPLETELY. 1539 02:12:33,252 --> 02:12:35,955 ALL RIGHT. I'LL SPEAK TO THE MOTION. 1540 02:12:35,955 --> 02:12:40,292 I THINK STAFF DID A GREAT JOB ON ALL OF THESE AND PROVIDING US 1541 02:12:40,292 --> 02:12:45,431 WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEEDED AND EXPLAINING THE 1542 02:12:45,431 --> 02:12:49,201 RATIONALE, CROSSED ALL THEIR Ts AND DOTTED ALL THEIR Is. 1543 02:12:49,201 --> 02:12:54,601 FOR ITEM NUMBER 15, I UNDERSTAND WE ARE NOT EXPERTS. 1544 02:12:54,639 --> 02:12:57,843 WE ARE NOT THE EXPERT AND THERE ARE EXPERTS, AND THEY ARE ALSO 1545 02:12:57,843 --> 02:13:03,616 NOT THE EXPERT ON EVERYTHING CITY, BUT WE ARE INFORMED AND WE 1546 02:13:03,616 --> 02:13:06,919 DO HAVE INFORMATION AND A LOT OF US HAVE BEEN DOING THIS A VERY, 1547 02:13:06,919 --> 02:13:11,991 VERY LONG TIME. WE ARE NOT INCAPABLE OF MAKING 1548 02:13:11,991 --> 02:13:15,661 DECISIONS THAT GOVERN HOW OUR CITY MOVES AND GROWS AND MOVES 1549 02:13:15,661 --> 02:13:18,597 FORWARD. WE'RE ABLE TO READ E-MAILS AND 1550 02:13:18,597 --> 02:13:23,397 BOOKS. AND I WOULD HAVE QUOTED MY JEFF 1551 02:13:23,402 --> 02:13:29,474 SPECK BOOK BUT I LENT IT TO THAXTON IN THE AUDIENCE -- LET 1552 02:13:29,474 --> 02:13:32,278 ME KNOW FOR THE RECORD HE SAID IT'S IN THE CAR. 1553 02:13:32,278 --> 02:13:38,278 >>Joseph Polzak: SPD IS HERE. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: I JUST MAY. 1554 02:13:41,286 --> 02:13:45,624 THAT ONE ITEM I AGREE THAT ONE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED. 1555 02:13:45,624 --> 02:13:48,930 I SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU. 1556 02:13:48,930 --> 02:13:51,364 >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? 1557 02:13:51,364 --> 02:13:54,900 IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT. COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU WOULD 1558 02:13:54,900 --> 02:13:57,900 VOTE, PLEASE. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: YES. 1559 02:14:00,172 --> 02:14:01,640 >>Mayor Alpert: YES. >>Kyle Battie: YES. 1560 02:14:01,640 --> 02:14:05,840 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: YES. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: YES. 1561 02:14:08,747 --> 02:14:10,682 >>Mayor Alpert: IS THAT YOUR VOTE, COMMISSIONERS? 1562 02:14:10,682 --> 02:14:16,682 THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. TO BRING BACK ITEM NUMBER 15 OR 1563 02:14:17,656 --> 02:14:24,856 TO SEND IT TO STAFF TO REVIEW FURTHER FOR MAYBE THINGS LIKE 1564 02:14:25,998 --> 02:14:29,401 REQUIRING AFTER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FEET THAT THERE BE SOME KIND 1565 02:14:29,401 --> 02:14:35,374 OF A SETBACK OR SOMETHING TO THEN BREAK UP -- DO WE NEED A 1566 02:14:35,374 --> 02:14:38,611 MOTION -- >>Shayla Griggs: YOU CAN DISCUSS 1567 02:14:38,611 --> 02:14:39,812 IT. >>Mayor Alpert: LET STAFF WORK 1568 02:14:39,812 --> 02:14:42,515 ON IT. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: BRING IT 1569 02:14:42,515 --> 02:14:47,753 BACK IN THE NEXT SET OF BATCH OF ZTAs. 1570 02:14:47,753 --> 02:14:50,523 >>Mayor Alpert: OR IF THEY GET DONE SOONER THEY CAN BRING IT 1571 02:14:50,523 --> 02:14:51,490 BACK. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: I DON'T WANT 1572 02:14:51,490 --> 02:14:54,893 TO SEE IT COME BACK. LET'S BE CAREFUL WHAT WE DO 1573 02:14:54,893 --> 02:14:55,561 HERE. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I'M 1574 02:14:55,561 --> 02:14:59,761 COMFORTABLE WITH STAFF HAS HEARD OUR CONCERNS. 1575 02:15:01,266 --> 02:15:03,702 MR. GALLAGHER IS VOCAL SO LET THEM WORK IT OUT. 1576 02:15:03,702 --> 02:15:07,902 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I AGREE WITH THAT. 1577 02:15:08,307 --> 02:15:11,309 >>Shayla Griggs: ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT? 1578 02:15:11,309 --> 02:15:14,790 INTERIM CITY MANAGER, DO YOU NEED ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT? 1579 02:15:14,790 --> 02:15:15,514 >>Dave Bullock: NO, MA'AM. WE'LL BRING IT BACK. 1580 02:15:15,514 --> 02:15:19,114 >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 1581 02:15:22,888 --> 02:15:25,888 >>Kyle Battie: IT'S JUST CONSENSUS. 1582 02:15:26,325 --> 02:15:31,330 >>Shayla Griggs: IF SHE'S NOT AGREEING, WE NEED A MOTION. 1583 02:15:31,330 --> 02:15:37,930 >>Mayor Alpert: PASS THE GAVEL. I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT ITEM 15, 1584 02:15:39,710 --> 02:15:47,471 THAT STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND WORK ON IT WITH THE 1585 02:15:49,281 --> 02:15:54,820 RELEVANT PARTIES IN THIS CASE AND BRING IT BACK TO US, EITHER 1586 02:15:54,820 --> 02:16:00,959 THEY CAN BRING IT BACK AND SAY WE'LL KEEP IT 200 FEET OR ADD TO 1587 02:16:00,959 --> 02:16:03,896 IT OR ADD SETBACKS, WHATEVER IT IS. 1588 02:16:03,896 --> 02:16:08,234 MY MOTION IS THAT WE SEND IT BACK TO STAFF TO BRING IT BACK 1589 02:16:08,234 --> 02:16:10,570 TO US FOR FURTHER REVIEW AND DISCUSSION. 1590 02:16:10,570 --> 02:16:15,370 >>Kyle Battie: I SECOND. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: MOTION BY 1591 02:16:15,574 --> 02:16:21,180 MAYOR ALPERT AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BATTIE TO ASK STAFF 1592 02:16:21,180 --> 02:16:26,580 TO LOOK AT NUMBER 15 AND BRING BACK THEIR RECOMMENDATION. 1593 02:16:34,126 --> 02:16:36,528 >>Mayor Alpert: I THINK I SPOKE TO IT ALREADY. 1594 02:16:36,528 --> 02:16:41,467 >>Kyle Battie: I'LL SPEAK TO IT. THE MERE FACT THAT TALKING ABOUT 1595 02:16:41,467 --> 02:16:45,204 US BEING EXPERTS OR NOT BEING EXPERTS AND THEM BEING EXPERTS 1596 02:16:45,204 --> 02:16:48,341 AND NOT BEING EXPERTS, THEY ARE HIRED BECAUSE OF THEIR 1597 02:16:48,341 --> 02:16:52,541 EXPERTISE. THAT'S WHY THEY WORK FOR THE 1598 02:16:53,112 --> 02:16:55,415 CITY IN THIS RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENT. 1599 02:16:55,415 --> 02:17:01,686 WHEN WE SAY THE COMMISSION IS NOT EXPERTS OR WHATEVER, OR ARE 1600 02:17:01,686 --> 02:17:05,925 EXPERTS, JUST AS A CITIZEN, A RESIDENT OF THE CITY, GREW UP IN 1601 02:17:05,925 --> 02:17:09,562 THE CITY, THERE ARE PROBLEMS IN THIS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT EXPERTS. 1602 02:17:09,562 --> 02:17:14,833 YOU HAVE ALL THE HEIGHT ON THE WATER AND NOT IN THE CORE OF THE 1603 02:17:14,833 --> 02:17:19,330 CITY BECAUSE KNOW WHAT, WE'RE NOT EXPERTS. 1604 02:17:20,405 --> 02:17:26,450 I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I RELY ON OUR STAFF AND THOSE THAT ARE 1605 02:17:26,450 --> 02:17:30,516 EXPERTS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE FIELDS REGARDING THIS MATTER. 1606 02:17:30,516 --> 02:17:34,187 THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: ANYBODY ELSE 1607 02:17:34,187 --> 02:17:35,387 BEFORE WE VOTE? OKAY. 1608 02:17:35,387 --> 02:17:38,987 SO WE'RE VOTING. >>Shayla Griggs: OKAY. 1609 02:17:41,227 --> 02:17:44,227 ALL RIGHT. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: MOTION 1610 02:17:45,264 --> 02:17:47,666 PASSES 3-2. IS THAT YOUR VOTE, EVERYONE? 1611 02:17:47,666 --> 02:17:51,700 >>Mayor Alpert: YES. >>Kyle Battie: CAN WE TAKE A 1612 02:17:51,700 --> 02:17:54,670 BREAK? >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU ALL. 1613 02:17:55,730 --> 02:18:01,730 WE ARE AT NEW BUSINESS. DOES ANYONE NEED A BREAK? 1614 02:18:03,749 --> 02:18:06,749 IT'S 2:51. THAT CLOCK IS WRONG. 1615 02:18:08,154 --> 02:18:11,154 LET'S BE BACK AT 3:00. [RECESS] 1616 02:18:28,774 --> 02:18:30,774 ? ? ? 1617 02:18:43,589 --> 02:18:45,589 ? ? ? 1618 02:18:58,537 --> 02:19:00,537 ? ? ? 1619 02:19:13,485 --> 02:19:15,485 ? ? ? 1620 02:19:29,101 --> 02:19:31,101 ? ? ? 1621 02:19:44,116 --> 02:19:46,116 ? ? ? 1622 02:19:59,131 --> 02:20:01,131 ? ? ? 1623 02:20:13,813 --> 02:20:15,813 ? ? ? 1624 02:20:27,225 --> 02:20:29,225 ? ? ? 1625 02:20:42,241 --> 02:20:44,241 ? ? ? 1626 02:20:59,191 --> 02:21:01,191 ? ? ? 1627 02:21:16,942 --> 02:21:18,942 ? ? ? 1628 02:21:36,428 --> 02:21:38,428 ? ? ? 1629 02:21:51,464 --> 02:21:53,464 ? ? ? 1630 02:22:06,545 --> 02:22:08,545 ? ? ? 1631 02:22:21,427 --> 02:22:23,427 ? ? ? 1632 02:22:36,508 --> 02:22:38,508 ? ? ? 1633 02:22:51,457 --> 02:22:53,457 ? ? ? 1634 02:23:06,472 --> 02:23:08,472 ? ? ? 1635 02:23:21,353 --> 02:23:23,353 ? ? ? 1636 02:23:36,435 --> 02:23:38,435 ? ? ? 1637 02:23:51,517 --> 02:23:53,517 ? ? ? 1638 02:24:06,532 --> 02:24:08,532 ? ? ? 1639 02:24:21,413 --> 02:24:23,413 ? ? ? 1640 02:24:36,495 --> 02:24:38,495 ? ? ? 1641 02:24:51,510 --> 02:24:53,510 ? ? ? 1642 02:25:06,525 --> 02:25:08,525 ? ? ? 1643 02:25:21,406 --> 02:25:23,406 ? ? ? 1644 02:25:37,356 --> 02:25:39,356 ? ? ? 1645 02:26:06,251 --> 02:26:08,251 ? ? ? 1646 02:26:21,133 --> 02:26:23,133 ? ? ? 1647 02:26:36,281 --> 02:26:38,281 ? ? ? 1648 02:26:51,163 --> 02:26:53,163 ? ? ? 1649 02:27:17,390 --> 02:27:19,390 ? ? ? 1650 02:27:33,405 --> 02:27:35,405 ? ? ? 1651 02:27:48,420 --> 02:27:50,420 ? ? 1652 02:28:02,915 --> 02:28:06,515 [ SOUNDING GAVEL ] >>Mayor Alpert: OKAY, EVERYBODY. 1653 02:28:06,920 --> 02:28:09,990 I KNOW EVERYONE IS HAVING A REALLY GOOD TIME OUT THERE. 1654 02:28:09,990 --> 02:28:15,390 IT'S 3:00, AND WE WANT TO GET STARTED AGAIN HERE. 1655 02:28:17,330 --> 02:28:24,700 WHEN WE WENT ON RECESS, WE WERE GETTING READY TO START OUR ITEM 1656 02:28:24,700 --> 02:28:27,670 12.1, NEW BUSINESS. AND THAT'S A DISCUSSION 1657 02:28:29,142 --> 02:28:31,644 REGARDING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF SPECIAL DISTRICTS FOR LIGHTING 1658 02:28:31,644 --> 02:28:36,750 AND UNDERGROUNDING. I AM GOING TO CALL ON -- IS SHE 1659 02:28:36,750 --> 02:28:41,550 HERE? WE WILL CALL ON OUR DIRECTOR OF 1660 02:28:45,258 --> 02:28:50,580 PUBLIC WORKS, NIK PATEL TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. 1661 02:28:54,968 --> 02:29:00,968 HE WENT INTO A WHOLE EXPLANATION AT LIDO KEY RESIDENTS 1662 02:29:00,973 --> 02:29:04,211 ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS A WONDERFUL WAY FOR EVERYBODY TO 1663 02:29:04,211 --> 02:29:06,646 REMEMBER YOUR NAME. WE'LL LET YOU -- I THINK YOU 1664 02:29:06,646 --> 02:29:10,450 SHOULD DO THAT AGAIN. >>Nik Patel: GOOD AFTERNOON 1665 02:29:10,450 --> 02:29:12,519 MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COMMISSIONERS. 1666 02:29:12,519 --> 02:29:14,987 I'M NIK PATEL, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR E FOR THE RECORD. 1667 02:29:14,987 --> 02:29:18,587 HERE WITH ME TODAY IS. >> SAGI. 1668 02:29:20,761 --> 02:29:24,564 I BEG THE INDULGENCE, I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY 1669 02:29:24,564 --> 02:29:26,867 OF THE NAME. SPELL IT LIKE SAGE. 1670 02:29:26,867 --> 02:29:29,937 I THINK MY PARENTS MUST HAVE BEEN HIPPIES AND THEY DECIDED 1671 02:29:29,937 --> 02:29:34,730 THAT WAS FUN. I GET TO SPEND MY ENTIRE LIFE 1672 02:29:34,730 --> 02:29:37,100 TELLING PEOPLE YOU DON'T PRONOUNCE IT LIKE IT IS SPELLED. 1673 02:29:37,100 --> 02:29:40,947 I PRONOUNCE IS SAGE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 1674 02:29:40,947 --> 02:29:43,884 WITH THAT, WE'LL JUMP INTO THE PRESENTATION. 1675 02:29:43,884 --> 02:29:49,756 I WILL APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF ALVI, SHE REALLY WANTED TO BE 1676 02:29:49,756 --> 02:29:51,158 HERE BUT FEELING UNDER THE WEATHER. 1677 02:29:51,158 --> 02:29:54,940 UNFORTUNATELY, YOU GET THE PINCH-HITTING THIS MORNING 1678 02:29:54,940 --> 02:29:57,563 INSTEAD OF ALVI THIS AFTERNOON. YES, THIS ITEM IS ABOUT 1679 02:29:57,563 --> 02:30:00,563 ESTABLISHING A COUPLE OF DISTRICTS. 1680 02:30:02,969 --> 02:30:07,169 REAL QUICKLY, THE AGENDA INCLUDES BACKGROUND COMMUNITY 1681 02:30:07,441 --> 02:30:10,977 INTEREST, AREAS OF INTEREST, SPECIFICALLY A COUPLE OF MAPS, 1682 02:30:10,977 --> 02:30:15,248 CITY CODE AND STATE STATUTE FRAMEWORK, A SCOPE FOR THE REST 1683 02:30:15,248 --> 02:30:21,248 OF TODAY, AND THEN NEXT STEPS AND A RECOMMENDED MOTION. 1684 02:30:21,688 --> 02:30:24,791 BACKGROUND AND COMMUNITY INTEREST, FIVE ASSOCIATIONS HAVE 1685 02:30:24,791 --> 02:30:29,329 FORMALLY ASKED THE CITY TO EXPLORE SPECIAL DISTRICTS FOR 1686 02:30:29,329 --> 02:30:32,799 UNDERGROUNDING OF POWER FOR THE UTILITY POWER. 1687 02:30:32,799 --> 02:30:36,636 AND THAT INCLUDES ST. ARMANDS RESIDENTS, LIDO SHORE PROPERTY 1688 02:30:36,636 --> 02:30:40,874 OWNER ASSOCIATION, LIDO KEY RESIDENTS, AND ST. ARMANDS 1689 02:30:40,874 --> 02:30:43,900 CIRCLE MERCHANTS. THE SECOND SOMEONE LIGHTING, 1690 02:30:43,900 --> 02:30:45,345 SOUTH POINSETTIA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS 1691 02:30:45,345 --> 02:30:48,849 REQUESTED THAT. EACH GROUP POLLED ITS MEMBERS 1692 02:30:48,849 --> 02:30:53,649 AND SUPPORT RANGES ANYWHERE FROM 85% TO 98% DEMONSTRATING CLEAR 1693 02:30:55,555 --> 02:30:58,959 GRASSROOTS MINIMUM TO ASK FOR THESE. 1694 02:30:58,959 --> 02:31:02,162 THE AREAS OF INTEREST FOR SPECIFICALLY UNDERGROUNDING, YOU 1695 02:31:02,162 --> 02:31:05,131 CAN SEE ON THE EXHIBIT A, WHICH IS ON YOUR SCREEN AND SHOULD BE 1696 02:31:05,131 --> 02:31:09,236 IN YOUR PACKET AS WELL, PURPLE IS THE ST. ARMANDS RESIDENTIAL 1697 02:31:09,236 --> 02:31:11,304 CORE. THE ORANGE IS LIDO SHORES. 1698 02:31:11,304 --> 02:31:14,440 YELLOW IS LIDO KEY. AND THE TEAL IS THE ST. ARMANDS 1699 02:31:14,440 --> 02:31:18,400 BUSINESS CORE. THESE OUTLINES ARE PRELIMINARY, 1700 02:31:18,245 --> 02:31:22,116 OF COURSE, AT THIS POINT. REFINE PARCEL LINES DURING 1701 02:31:22,116 --> 02:31:26,916 FEASIBILITY AND LEGAL REVIEW. EVERY PARCEL INSIDE HAS 1702 02:31:27,320 --> 02:31:30,323 EXPRESSED STRONG INTEREST FOR BURYING UTILITIES FOR 1703 02:31:30,323 --> 02:31:33,590 RELIABILITY AND AESTHETICS AS WELL. 1704 02:31:33,590 --> 02:31:36,897 AREA INTEREST FOR LIGHTING, EXHIBIT B DISPLAYS PROPOSED 1705 02:31:36,897 --> 02:31:39,733 LIGHTING DISTRICTS. SOUTH POINSETTIA PARK AREA, 1706 02:31:39,733 --> 02:31:42,937 RESIDENTS SEEK FULL REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING FIXTURES WITH 1707 02:31:42,937 --> 02:31:46,873 UNIFORM LED LIGHTING TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND NEIGHBORHOOD 1708 02:31:46,873 --> 02:31:50,343 CHARACTER, BOUNDARIES MAY SHIFT SLIGHTLY AFTER THE PHOTOMETRIC 1709 02:31:50,343 --> 02:31:55,549 DESIGN AND COST ANALYSIS BUT THE PARCEL IN BLUE IS OUTLINED THAT 1710 02:31:55,549 --> 02:31:57,417 THEY HAVE SUBSTANTIAL SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. 1711 02:31:57,417 --> 02:32:00,487 WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO NIK. 1712 02:32:00,487 --> 02:32:05,158 >>Nik Patel: SO THE PROCESS IS GOVERNED BY THE CITY CODE 1713 02:32:05,158 --> 02:32:08,158 CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE 9. SPECIAL ASSESSMENT AREA. 1714 02:32:09,829 --> 02:32:14,901 PART OF THE CITY CODE. IT'S ALSO -- THE PROCESS IS ALSO 1715 02:32:14,901 --> 02:32:19,701 DICTATED BY THE FLORIDA STATUTES 163.506, WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD 1716 02:32:20,507 --> 02:32:23,643 IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE FLORIDA STATUTES 170 WHICH 1717 02:32:23,643 --> 02:32:28,443 IS THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT AND FLORIDA STATUTE 197.3632 WHICH 1718 02:32:30,884 --> 02:32:33,884 IS THE UNIFORM ASSESSMENT COLLECTION. 1719 02:32:33,920 --> 02:32:38,325 THESE ALLOW THE CITY TO LEVY NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENTS, 1720 02:32:38,325 --> 02:32:43,930 WHICH MEANS NO MILLAGE FOR THE CITY AND COLLECT THEM ON THE TAX 1721 02:32:43,930 --> 02:32:45,799 BILL. THE COMMISSION SITS AS THE 1722 02:32:45,799 --> 02:32:48,799 GOVERNING BOARD FOR EACH DISTRICT. 1723 02:32:51,710 --> 02:32:56,209 SO TODAY WE'RE NOT CREATING A DISTRICT OR LEVYING ANY 1724 02:32:56,209 --> 02:32:59,679 ASSESSMENTS. WE'RE ASKING CITY COMMISSION TO 1725 02:32:59,679 --> 02:33:04,479 ACKNOWLEDGE THE LETTERS, SURVEY, AND PETITION RECEIVED, AUTHORIZE 1726 02:33:04,951 --> 02:33:09,889 STAFF TO BEGIN FEASIBILITY AND LEGAL FRAMEWORK UNDER THE CITY 1727 02:33:09,889 --> 02:33:14,293 CODE AND THE STATE STATUTES AND COORDINATE WITH THE CITY 1728 02:33:14,293 --> 02:33:18,564 ATTORNEY AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT, ENGAGE A CONSULTANT FOR 1729 02:33:18,564 --> 02:33:22,764 PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATE FUNDING OPTIONS AND BENEFIT 1730 02:33:23,370 --> 02:33:27,106 APPORTIONMENT ANALYSIS, AND DIRECT STAFF TO RETURN WITH THE 1731 02:33:27,106 --> 02:33:30,309 DRAFT INITIAL ASSESSMENT AND REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION BEFORE 1732 02:33:30,309 --> 02:33:35,709 ANY COSTS ARE ADOPTED. IF AUTHORIZED, STAFF WILL DRAFT 1733 02:33:44,324 --> 02:33:47,924 BOTH RESOLUTIONS, REFINE BOUNDARIES AND PRELIMINARY 1734 02:33:48,528 --> 02:33:52,799 COSTS, PUBLISH STATUTORY NOTICE AND SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND 1735 02:33:52,799 --> 02:33:57,599 PREPARE A FULL ASSESSMENT ROLL AND FUNDING RECOMMENDATION. 1736 02:33:58,472 --> 02:34:00,807 THE FUTURE HEARING, THE COMMISSION CAN DECIDE WHETHER TO 1737 02:34:00,807 --> 02:34:04,407 ADVANCE TO DESIGN BONDING OR CONSTRUCTION. 1738 02:34:06,780 --> 02:34:09,695 SO RECOMMENDED MOTION IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE COMMUNITY 1739 02:34:09,695 --> 02:34:14,167 INTEREST AND AUTHORIZE CITY STAFF TO PREPARE ALL PROCEDURAL 1740 02:34:14,167 --> 02:34:17,304 DOCUMENTS, RETAIN A CONSULTANT AND RETURN WITH INITIAL 1741 02:34:17,304 --> 02:34:19,704 ASSESSMENT AND REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS. 1742 02:34:20,440 --> 02:34:25,240 NO ASSESSMENT OR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT IS APPROVED TODAY. 1743 02:34:25,979 --> 02:34:29,249 THIS SIMPLY GREEN LIGHTS THE DETAIL ANALYSIS AND MAINTAIN THE 1744 02:34:29,249 --> 02:34:34,388 CITY'S ABILITY TO REIMBURSE EARLY COSTS ONCE DISTRICTS ARE 1745 02:34:34,388 --> 02:34:38,558 FORMED. AND ALSO I WANT TO KIND OF 1746 02:34:38,558 --> 02:34:43,630 MANAGE EXPECTATIONS A LITTLE BIT, SPECIFICALLY ON CREATION OF 1747 02:34:43,630 --> 02:34:45,998 A SPECIAL DISTRICT. FOR ST. ARMANDS, THE 1748 02:34:45,998 --> 02:34:51,872 UNDERGROUNDING AS WELL AS THE LIDO KEY, IT'S GOING TO TAKE 1749 02:34:51,872 --> 02:34:56,209 ABOUT FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS IF THE COMMISSION DOES PROCEED IN 1750 02:34:56,209 --> 02:35:01,348 CREATING A SPECIAL DISTRICT TO ALL THE WAY TO IMPLEMENTING THE 1751 02:35:01,348 --> 02:35:03,750 PROJECT. FOR THE LIGHTING DISTRICT, IT 1752 02:35:03,750 --> 02:35:09,356 CAN TAKE ALL THE WAY UP FROM THREE TO FOUR YEARS ROUGHLY TO 1753 02:35:09,356 --> 02:35:11,625 IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT IF THE COMMISSION APPROVES MOVING 1754 02:35:11,625 --> 02:35:13,160 FORWARD WITH THE SPECIAL DISTRICT. 1755 02:35:13,160 --> 02:35:17,960 WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 1756 02:35:21,901 --> 02:35:24,237 >>Mayor Alpert: WE'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK SO 1757 02:35:24,237 --> 02:35:28,241 WE'LL DO THAT FIRST AND THEN COME BACK TO QUESTIONS. 1758 02:35:28,241 --> 02:35:34,915 I'M GOING TO DIVIDE THIS UP AND BRING -- AND START WITH -- ONLY 1759 02:35:34,915 --> 02:35:39,586 FIVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP. BUT THE FIRST FOUR ARE HERE ON 1760 02:35:39,586 --> 02:35:43,657 BEHALF OF THE SPECIAL UNDERGROUNDING, AND THEN THE 1761 02:35:43,657 --> 02:35:47,257 SOUTH POINSETTIA ISSUE. CHRIS GO LEAH. 1762 02:35:49,195 --> 02:35:52,795 DENNIS BENEFICIARY COULD HAVE. CARL SHOFFSTALL. 1763 02:35:53,266 --> 02:35:55,666 BOB KELLY. ALAN PARISSER. 1764 02:36:03,143 --> 02:36:07,147 WHEN I CALL ON YOU, STATE YOUR NAME AND WHETHER YOU ARE A CITY 1765 02:36:07,147 --> 02:36:10,747 RESIDENT. WE'LL START WITH MR. GOGLIA. 1766 02:36:28,501 --> 02:36:29,303 >> CHRIS GOGLIA. PRESIDENT ST. ARMANDS 1767 02:36:29,303 --> 02:36:31,239 ASSOCIATION. YES, I AM A CITY RESIDENT. 1768 02:36:31,239 --> 02:36:33,106 I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS SHORT AND SWEET. 1769 02:36:33,106 --> 02:36:38,712 A MAJORITY OF MY CAREER WAS SPENT IN WHAT'S CALLED MARKETING 1770 02:36:38,712 --> 02:36:40,447 RESEARCH DOING SURVEYS. WE HAVE A SAYING IN MARKETING 1771 02:36:40,447 --> 02:36:42,783 RESEARCH, THAT SAYING IS, EVERYTHING IN LIFE IS A 1772 02:36:42,783 --> 02:36:45,619 TRADE-OFF. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS IF YOU 1773 02:36:45,619 --> 02:36:49,560 ASK A THOUSAND PEOPLE, WOULD YOU LIKE THE CITY TO BURY YOUR POWER 1774 02:36:49,560 --> 02:36:50,957 LINES, A THOUSAND PEOPLE WOULD SAY, YEAH. 1775 02:36:50,957 --> 02:36:54,194 BUT IF YOU TOLD THOSE SAME THOUSAND PEOPLE, WELL, YOU GOT 1776 02:36:54,194 --> 02:36:57,363 TO HAVE A METAL BOX ON THE GROUND IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE 1777 02:36:57,363 --> 02:37:02,436 AND YOU'VE GOT TO PAY FOR IT, ALL THOSE THOUSAND PEOPLE MIGHT 1778 02:37:02,436 --> 02:37:05,271 NOT SAY YES ANYMORE. WE ASKED OUR RESIDENTS IN THIS 1779 02:37:05,271 --> 02:37:09,809 YEAR AFTER THE TWO HURRICANES PUT US UNDERWATER, KNOWING THIS, 1780 02:37:09,809 --> 02:37:11,945 THAT PROPERTY OWNERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE THIS 1781 02:37:11,945 --> 02:37:16,516 DONE, WOULD YOU LIKE THE CITY TO PROCEED WITH BURYING POWER 1782 02:37:16,516 --> 02:37:18,885 LINES? WE HAD A HUGE RESPONSE RATE IN 1783 02:37:18,885 --> 02:37:23,357 OUR ANNUAL SURVEY, 87% SAID, YES, WE WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO 1784 02:37:23,357 --> 02:37:26,920 DO THIS. WHEN WE LOOK AT JUST THE SURVEY 1785 02:37:26,920 --> 02:37:30,163 RESPONDENTS WHO INDICATED THAT THEY ALSO VOTE IN SARASOTA, 1786 02:37:30,163 --> 02:37:33,433 WHICH MEANS THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE IS HERE IN SARASOTA, 1787 02:37:33,433 --> 02:37:39,973 THE NUMBER INCREASES FROM 85% TO -- BASED ON THE DATA, THE 1788 02:37:39,973 --> 02:37:43,576 ST. ARMANDS ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THE INITIATIVE AND WE ASK YOU TO 1789 02:37:43,576 --> 02:37:44,711 PLEASE APPROVE IT AND MOVE IT FORWARD. 1790 02:37:44,711 --> 02:37:47,981 THANK YOU. >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. 1791 02:37:47,981 --> 02:37:51,385 DENNIS. >> MY NAME IS DENNIS BISHOFF. 1792 02:37:51,385 --> 02:37:55,550 I AM A RESIDENT OF THE CITY. I REPRESENT HOMEOWNERS OF LIDO 1793 02:37:55,550 --> 02:37:58,925 SHORES. I THINK THE KEYWORD HERE IS 1794 02:37:58,925 --> 02:38:01,925 RESILIENCY. LIDO SHORES, LIDO KEY, 1795 02:38:03,530 --> 02:38:06,533 ST. ARMANDS ARE ON A FRAGILE BARRIER ISLAND. 1796 02:38:06,533 --> 02:38:12,405 FAR MORE SUBJECT TO MOTHER NATURE AND TO HAVE POWER LINES 1797 02:38:12,405 --> 02:38:16,543 UNDERGROUND IS OBVIOUS AND SHOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR THE 1798 02:38:16,543 --> 02:38:19,812 HOMEOWNERS, BUSINESSES, FOR THE CITY OF SARASOTA, AND FLORIDA 1799 02:38:19,812 --> 02:38:23,885 POWER AND LIGHT. IN FACT, FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT 1800 02:38:23,885 --> 02:38:27,485 SHOULD BE THRILLED. 14 TIMES BETTER PERFORMANCE, 1801 02:38:28,755 --> 02:38:32,558 REDUCING REPAIR TIME AND COSTS LONG TERM. 1802 02:38:32,558 --> 02:38:36,758 LIDO SHORES PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION BOARD UNANIMOUSLY 1803 02:38:37,230 --> 02:38:41,300 SUPPORTS AND REQUESTS THE CITY OF SARASOTA TO PROCEED WITH THIS 1804 02:38:41,300 --> 02:38:45,571 PROJECT TO BURY THE POWER LINES AND COMMUNICATION LINES ON LIDO 1805 02:38:45,571 --> 02:38:48,841 SHORES, ST. ARMANDS, AND LIDO KEY. 1806 02:38:48,841 --> 02:38:53,641 WE BELIEVE THIS WILL IMPROVE SAFETY, RESILIENCY AND 1807 02:38:53,712 --> 02:38:56,316 AESTHETICS. LIDO SHORES PROPERTY OWNERS 1808 02:38:56,316 --> 02:38:59,386 BOARD HAS DISCUSSED AND DEBATED THE TOPIC. 1809 02:38:59,386 --> 02:39:03,256 WE REVIEWED THE EXPERIENCES OF OTHER BARRIER ISLANDS. 1810 02:39:03,256 --> 02:39:08,128 FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, AS WELL AS THE EXPERIENCES OF MANY OF 1811 02:39:08,128 --> 02:39:14,128 OUR NEIGHBORS WHO HAD EXTENDED POWER OUTAGES IN PRIOR YEAR 1812 02:39:15,401 --> 02:39:18,339 STORMS. I PERSONALLY LOST POWER IN EVERY 1813 02:39:18,339 --> 02:39:22,539 STORM SINCE LIVING IN LIDO SHORES SINCE 2002. 1814 02:39:23,142 --> 02:39:29,215 WITH FIVE DAYS LOSS OF POWER FROM IAN AND SEVEN DAYS LOSS 1815 02:39:29,215 --> 02:39:31,350 FROM THE LAST PAST YEAR'S STORMS. 1816 02:39:31,350 --> 02:39:35,789 IN A RECENT SURVEY, THE MAJORITY OF LIDO SHORES HOUSEHOLDS 1817 02:39:35,789 --> 02:39:39,692 RESPONDED AND 97% RESPONDED -- RESPONDENTS VOTED, YES, THEY ARE 1818 02:39:39,692 --> 02:39:43,162 IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT PROCEEDING. 1819 02:39:43,162 --> 02:39:46,499 UNDERGROUNDING UTILITIES HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED ON NEARBY 1820 02:39:46,499 --> 02:39:51,971 BIRD KEY, LONGBOAT KEY, JOHN RINGLING BOULEVARD FROM THE CITY 1821 02:39:51,971 --> 02:39:54,374 TO ST. ARMANDS CIRCLE AND SINGLE RESIDENTIAL STREET ON 1822 02:39:54,374 --> 02:39:57,577 ST. ARMANDS KEY. OUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE INDICATED 1823 02:39:57,577 --> 02:40:01,114 THAT THEY WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO FINISH THE JOB. 1824 02:40:01,114 --> 02:40:04,751 AND ARE WILLING TO FUND THIS INVESTMENT THEM THIS. 1825 02:40:04,751 --> 02:40:11,351 IN FACT, HOWARD ROOK, GOD REST HIS SOUL, WAS INVESTIGATING THIS 1826 02:40:11,791 --> 02:40:16,591 WAY BACK, FOR LIDO SHORES WAY BACK IN 2016. 1827 02:40:16,830 --> 02:40:21,760 AT NINE YEARS AND SEVERAL STORMS LATER, WE HOPE THE PROJECT CAN 1828 02:40:21,760 --> 02:40:23,612 COMMENCE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. 1829 02:40:23,612 --> 02:40:25,614 >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. KARL. 1830 02:40:25,614 --> 02:40:28,150 >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE AT THE DAIS. 1831 02:40:28,150 --> 02:40:29,819 HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN A LITTLE BIT. 1832 02:40:29,819 --> 02:40:32,819 NICE. EVERYBODY IS LOOKING GOOD. 1833 02:40:33,489 --> 02:40:37,689 I'M CARL SHOFFSTALL, 129 TYLER DRIVE, LIDO KEY. 1834 02:40:38,270 --> 02:40:41,197 I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OUT THERE FOR 22 YEARS NOW. 1835 02:40:41,197 --> 02:40:44,300 AND ON SATURDAY, WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING OF THE SEASON. 1836 02:40:44,300 --> 02:40:48,771 I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS THAT DID COME OUT. 1837 02:40:48,771 --> 02:40:51,507 STAFF DID A NICE PRESENTATION. THESE PEOPLE UP HERE WERE ALL 1838 02:40:51,507 --> 02:40:56,912 HERE, AND WE HAD THE MAYOR OF LONGBOAT KEY COME UP AND SPEAK 1839 02:40:56,912 --> 02:41:00,782 ABOUT THEY HAD JUST DONE THE UNDERGROUNDING AND GAVE US SOME 1840 02:41:00,782 --> 02:41:04,253 VERY, VERY INSIGHTFUL INFORMATION ON WHAT WENT ON. 1841 02:41:04,253 --> 02:41:10,853 I TALKED ABOUT THIS WHEN ROBERT TAYLOR COMPLEX WAS OPENED ABOUT 1842 02:41:10,859 --> 02:41:15,531 COMING OUT TO LIDO AND START UNDERGROUNDING UTILITIES AND THE 1843 02:41:15,531 --> 02:41:18,468 CABLE, OVERHEAD WIRES AND STUFF. AT THE TIME I THOUGHT WELL, I 1844 02:41:18,468 --> 02:41:23,338 DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ALL THAT NECESSARY, BUT OVER THE YEARS IN 1845 02:41:23,338 --> 02:41:26,876 THIS LAST STORM, WE WERE DEVASTATED. 1846 02:41:26,876 --> 02:41:29,712 I LOST EVERYTHING OR MY WIFE AND I LOST EVERYTHING AND WE MOVED 1847 02:41:29,712 --> 02:41:32,414 OUT FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS, GOT IT REBUILT, NO PROBLEM. 1848 02:41:32,414 --> 02:41:37,954 WE'RE BACK. BUT IT IS NOW TIME AS ALL OF 1849 02:41:37,954 --> 02:41:42,458 THESE GENTLEMEN UP HERE SAID, WE DID THE SURVEYS OUT AT OUR PLACE 1850 02:41:42,458 --> 02:41:46,762 ON LIDO, AND EVERYBODY IS IN FAVOR OF DOING IT. 1851 02:41:46,762 --> 02:41:52,668 WE'RE IN FAVOR OF PAYING FOR IT, WHICH HELPS EVERYBODY, BUT IT'S 1852 02:41:52,668 --> 02:41:56,538 TIME TO GET IT MOVING. AGAIN, YOUR STAFF SAID ABOUT 1853 02:41:56,538 --> 02:41:59,708 FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS. WE NEED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN A 1854 02:41:59,708 --> 02:42:02,645 LITTLE FASTER THAN THIS. I WOULD HOPE EVERYBODY, BECAUSE 1855 02:42:02,645 --> 02:42:04,847 YOU'LL GET IT FROM EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY. 1856 02:42:04,847 --> 02:42:09,118 IT'S GOING TO EVENTUALLY COME THAT IT WILL HAVE TO BE 1857 02:42:09,118 --> 02:42:12,655 UNDERGROUNDING WITH UTILITIES. LET'S GET IT DONE, GANG. 1858 02:42:12,655 --> 02:42:15,655 IT'S THAT SIMPLE. THANK YOU. 1859 02:42:15,690 --> 02:42:16,926 >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. BOB. 1860 02:42:16,926 --> 02:42:18,728 >> HI, EVERYONE. I'M BOB KELLY. 1861 02:42:18,728 --> 02:42:22,328 I LIVE ON ST. ARMANDS. KEY. 1862 02:42:22,731 --> 02:42:26,100 I LIVED THERE FOR THREE YEARS NOW. 1863 02:42:26,100 --> 02:42:30,206 I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION OF 1864 02:42:30,206 --> 02:42:32,174 ST. ARMANDS. I AM A FORMER BOARD MEMBER OF 1865 02:42:32,174 --> 02:42:34,944 THE MERCHANTS BOARD AS WELL. I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BOTH 1866 02:42:34,944 --> 02:42:39,144 AREAS. I'M SURE YOU HAVE SEEN THE 1867 02:42:39,215 --> 02:42:41,885 NUMBERS AND YOU'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED TO US, 1868 02:42:41,885 --> 02:42:47,756 ST. ARMANDS ALONE, WE HAD 200 HOMES AND PROBABLY AFTER THE 1869 02:42:47,756 --> 02:42:51,894 STORMS, HALF OF THEM OR MORE WERE UNINHABITABLE. 1870 02:42:51,894 --> 02:42:54,730 WE HAVE 150 BUSINESSES. A LOT OF THEM HAVE COME BACK. 1871 02:42:54,730 --> 02:42:59,468 A LOT OF THEM ARE GONE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF EMPTY 1872 02:42:59,468 --> 02:43:01,437 STOREFRONTS, STILL. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. 1873 02:43:01,437 --> 02:43:07,760 THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES, BUT POWER IS DEFINITELY A BIG PART 1874 02:43:07,760 --> 02:43:10,645 OF IT. THE REALITY IS YOU CAN'T LIVE, 1875 02:43:10,645 --> 02:43:13,448 WORK, OR REPAIR ANYTHING WITHOUT POWER. 1876 02:43:13,448 --> 02:43:17,319 THE THING THAT WE REALLY LEARNED SUBSEQUENT TO THE STORM IS THOSE 1877 02:43:17,319 --> 02:43:22,258 LOCATIONS THAT DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF BURYING THEIR POWER LINES 1878 02:43:22,258 --> 02:43:26,228 BEFORE OR IN THE PAST, LIKE LONGBOAT KEY AND BIRD KEY. 1879 02:43:26,228 --> 02:43:29,799 THEY CAME BACK SO MUCH QUICKER IF THEY HAD ANY ISSUES AND WE 1880 02:43:29,799 --> 02:43:32,535 WERE STUCK WITHOUT POWER, WITHOUT WATER, OTHER THINGS FOR 1881 02:43:32,535 --> 02:43:37,935 A LONG TIME. SO BIG PICTURE IS, ALL OF 1882 02:43:38,541 --> 02:43:41,577 FLORIDA'S BARRIER ISLANDS HAVE GOT TO BECOME MUCH MORE 1883 02:43:41,577 --> 02:43:43,279 RESILIENT. ALL OF THESE POWER LINES SHOULD 1884 02:43:43,279 --> 02:43:47,149 BE BURIED OVER TIME, PARTICULARLY OURS FOR A WHOLE 1885 02:43:47,149 --> 02:43:50,352 BUNCH OF DIFFERENT REASONS, WHICH I WON'T GO INTO NOW. 1886 02:43:50,352 --> 02:43:55,824 BUT WE'RE IN DESPERATE NEED. ONE THING ABOUT CHRIS, HE IS 1887 02:43:55,824 --> 02:44:00,290 LIKE A FORCE TO BE -- IN DOING SURVEYS. 1888 02:44:00,290 --> 02:44:05,167 THE REALITY IS, BACK IN, FOUR FIVE YEARS AGO, MAYBE FIVE, SIX 1889 02:44:05,167 --> 02:44:07,503 YEARS AGO, HE HAD THE SAME QUESTIONS ON THE SAME SURVEYS 1890 02:44:07,503 --> 02:44:11,730 THAT SAID, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD UNDERGROUND? 1891 02:44:11,730 --> 02:44:14,709 IF SO, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT? 1892 02:44:14,709 --> 02:44:19,247 I THINK TWO-THIRDS SAID YES. NOW WE'RE AT 87% IN LIGHT OF 1893 02:44:19,247 --> 02:44:22,250 WHAT HAPPENED. THE OTHER GREAT THING THAT'S 1894 02:44:22,250 --> 02:44:25,721 HAPPENED SINCE WE STARTED TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS AND REALIZING 1895 02:44:25,721 --> 02:44:31,590 WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS DONE IS CARL AND DENNIS JUMPED IN AS 1896 02:44:31,590 --> 02:44:33,796 WELL VERY QUICKLY. THE MERCHANTS NEED TO GET THIS 1897 02:44:33,796 --> 02:44:37,666 DONE AS WELL FOR REASONS THAT ARE ACTUALLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN 1898 02:44:37,666 --> 02:44:40,469 FOR THE RESIDENTS. SO WE'RE A TEAM HERE AND WE'RE 1899 02:44:40,469 --> 02:44:43,538 ALL WORKING TOGETHER. THE REALITY IS WE OVERLAP EACH 1900 02:44:43,538 --> 02:44:48,811 OTHER AND WE WORK AND SHOP AND GO TO THE SAME RESTAURANTS AND 1901 02:44:48,811 --> 02:44:53,282 THE LIKE. WHAT WE DID DO UP FRONT IS I 1902 02:44:53,282 --> 02:44:55,818 HELPED CHRIS A LITTLE BIT BY DOING A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH 1903 02:44:55,818 --> 02:45:01,223 ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS AND PLUSES AND MINUSES OF THE WHOLE 1904 02:45:01,223 --> 02:45:02,624 THING. IT WAS GREAT. 1905 02:45:02,624 --> 02:45:08,300 I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH FPL, LONGBOAT KEY, CONSULTANTS, 1906 02:45:08,300 --> 02:45:09,965 CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES, RESIDENTS, RESIDENTS OF WEST 1907 02:45:09,965 --> 02:45:12,167 PALM BEACH AND THE CEO OF ANOTHER MAJOR POWER COMPANY IN 1908 02:45:12,167 --> 02:45:16,705 THE COUNTRY. IT JUST MAKES YOU WANT TO DO IT 1909 02:45:16,705 --> 02:45:19,375 EVEN FASTER AND BETTER AND QUICKER. 1910 02:45:19,375 --> 02:45:23,879 WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES, FINALLY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE SAW THE 1911 02:45:23,879 --> 02:45:26,415 MAYOR FIRST, SO THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE 1912 02:45:26,415 --> 02:45:27,416 INVOLVED. >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. 1913 02:45:27,416 --> 02:45:30,986 THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND ALAN. 1914 02:45:30,986 --> 02:45:33,923 >> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ALAN PARISSER. 1915 02:45:33,923 --> 02:45:37,325 I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH POINSETTIA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD 1916 02:45:37,325 --> 02:45:41,263 ASSOCIATION. OBVIOUSLY, DO I LIVE IN THE CITY 1917 02:45:41,263 --> 02:45:44,667 ON CLEMATIS STREET. CAN I TELL YOU I HAVE A VERY 1918 02:45:44,667 --> 02:45:47,736 LARGE AND NOT SO ATTRACTIVE STREETLIGHT POLE DIRECTLY IN 1919 02:45:47,736 --> 02:45:51,730 FRONT OF MY HOUSE. I FIRST OF ALL WOULD LIKE TO 1920 02:45:51,730 --> 02:45:55,611 THANK ALL THE COMMISSIONERS FOR REVIEWING OUR REQUEST TO 1921 02:45:55,611 --> 02:45:59,548 CONSIDER THE IDEA OF A LIGHTING ZONE AND REPLACEMENT OF 1922 02:45:59,548 --> 02:46:04,252 STREETLIGHTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR BOTH SAFETY AND AESTHETIC 1923 02:46:04,252 --> 02:46:06,588 PURPOSES. I WOULD NOTE THAT WE'RE VERY 1924 02:46:06,588 --> 02:46:09,992 FORTUNATE TO HAVE HAD -- I SHOULDN'T SAY ALL, MOST OF THE 1925 02:46:09,992 --> 02:46:15,898 POWER LINES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WERE UNDERGROUNDED BY FPL, ABOUT 1926 02:46:15,898 --> 02:46:20,103 FIVE YEARS AGO, AS PART OF A PROGRAM TO DETERMINE WHAT KIND 1927 02:46:20,103 --> 02:46:23,905 OF COSTS THEY WOULD BUMP INTO FROM DOING THESE THINGS. 1928 02:46:23,905 --> 02:46:26,641 AND THAT HAS RESULTED IN REDUCING THE COSTS OF THEN 1929 02:46:26,641 --> 02:46:31,540 REMOVING THE REMAINING WOODEN POLES AND STREETLIGHTS AND 1930 02:46:31,540 --> 02:46:35,659 REPLACING THEM WITH MORE MODERN AND MORE ATTRACTIVE POLES. 1931 02:46:35,659 --> 02:46:39,463 SO WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE IN THAT REGARD. 1932 02:46:39,463 --> 02:46:42,299 WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR PROBABLY FOUR OR 1933 02:46:42,299 --> 02:46:44,668 FIVE YEARS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DID HAVE A SURVEY. 1934 02:46:44,668 --> 02:46:46,604 WE HAD A VERY GOOD RESPONSE RATE. 1935 02:46:46,604 --> 02:46:51,141 MORE THAN 75% SAID THEY APPROVED DOING THIS KIND OF THING, BUT, 1936 02:46:51,141 --> 02:46:53,677 FRANKLY, THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST. 1937 02:46:53,677 --> 02:46:56,880 THEY ARE AWARE THAT IT WILL COST SOME AMOUNT. 1938 02:46:56,880 --> 02:46:58,882 OF COURSE, WE'RE ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO FINDING OUT WHAT THE 1939 02:46:58,882 --> 02:47:02,753 MAGIC NUMBER IS. WE'VE BEEN IN CONSTANT 1940 02:47:02,753 --> 02:47:04,210 COMMUNICATION WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 1941 02:47:04,210 --> 02:47:07,157 THEY REMAIN VERY ENTHUSIASTIC, BUT, AGAIN, WE'RE STILL WAITING 1942 02:47:07,157 --> 02:47:11,695 TO FIND OUT WHAT EXACTLY -- WHAT WILL IT TAKE FROM THE 1943 02:47:11,695 --> 02:47:15,320 NEIGHBORHOOD'S POINT OF VIEW TO GET THINGS MOVING. 1944 02:47:15,320 --> 02:47:18,635 SO I'M LOOKING VERY MUCH FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION'S APPROVAL 1945 02:47:18,635 --> 02:47:22,706 TODAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY TO DETERMINE 1946 02:47:22,706 --> 02:47:27,440 THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT AND SO FORTH. 1947 02:47:27,440 --> 02:47:29,979 I THINK THIS WILL BENEFIT NOT JUST THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THE 1948 02:47:29,979 --> 02:47:32,916 CITY, BECAUSE I THINK THIS CAN BECOME A ROLE MODEL OF HOW TO DO 1949 02:47:32,916 --> 02:47:35,652 THINGS IN THE FUTURE. I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY 1950 02:47:35,652 --> 02:47:39,322 NEIGHBORHOODS, WE FOUND OUT TODAY, ABOUT 50 OF THEM, WHO 1951 02:47:39,322 --> 02:47:44,394 HAVE A LIST OF THINGS THEY'D LIKE TO DO, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW 1952 02:47:44,394 --> 02:47:48,999 HOW TO GO ABOUT GETTING IT DONE. THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD ROAD MAP 1953 02:47:48,999 --> 02:47:53,203 FOR THEM TO FOLLOW. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS VERY 1954 02:47:53,203 --> 02:47:57,730 MUCH SO. I HEARD NIK SAY, THOUGH, IT WILL 1955 02:47:57,730 --> 02:47:59,409 TAKE THREE TO FOUR YEARS. THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT LONGER 1956 02:47:59,409 --> 02:48:02,746 THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED. SO I'M HOPING WE CAN NOT ONLY 1957 02:48:02,746 --> 02:48:05,949 APPROVE IT, BUT MAYBE ACCELERATE THE SCHEDULE A BIT. 1958 02:48:05,949 --> 02:48:09,619 THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING 1959 02:48:09,619 --> 02:48:11,488 US THE PRIVILEGE TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. 1960 02:48:11,488 --> 02:48:12,490 THANK YOU. >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. 1961 02:48:12,490 --> 02:48:17,290 THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS. 1962 02:48:17,660 --> 02:48:20,764 I SEE COMMISSIONER OHLRICH IS ON THE BOARD. 1963 02:48:20,764 --> 02:48:24,364 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: THANK YOU, MAYOR. 1964 02:48:39,316 --> 02:48:43,253 IT SEEMS THAT ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO WERE PRESENT 1965 02:48:43,253 --> 02:48:48,658 HERE ARE INTERESTED IN THE PROJECT, AND THEY ACTUALLY WOULD 1966 02:48:48,658 --> 02:48:50,861 LIKE US TO ACCELERATE THE PROJECT. 1967 02:48:50,861 --> 02:48:56,861 TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ACCELERATING THE PROJECT. 1968 02:48:57,100 --> 02:49:01,338 >>Nik Patel: NIK PATEL, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, FOR THE RECORD. 1969 02:49:01,338 --> 02:49:06,138 SO ACCELERATION, THE CHALLENGE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THIS 1970 02:49:08,345 --> 02:49:12,820 WEEKEND, THE MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF LONGBOAT KEY SPOKE UP AND 1971 02:49:12,820 --> 02:49:15,752 ORIGINALLY THEIR PLAN WAS TO GET IT DONE IN ROUGHLY ABOUT FOUR TO 1972 02:49:15,752 --> 02:49:18,422 FIVE YEARS. IT TOOK THEM CLOSE TO SEVEN 1973 02:49:18,422 --> 02:49:23,160 YEARS TO GET IT DONE. THE CHALLENGE IS THERE ARE 1974 02:49:23,160 --> 02:49:28,560 MULTIPLE THINGS THAT CAN CAUSE SOME CHALLENGES TO ACCELERATE. 1975 02:49:29,320 --> 02:49:32,169 SPECIFICALLY, IT'S NOT JUST UNDERGROUNDING FPL, BUT IT'S 1976 02:49:32,169 --> 02:49:36,239 ALSO UNDERGROUNDING ALL THE OTHER UTILITIES, VERIZON. 1977 02:49:36,239 --> 02:49:40,109 YOU HAVE COMCAST. YOU HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT 1978 02:49:40,109 --> 02:49:42,913 OTHER FRANCHISEES THAT NEED TO UNDERGROUND. 1979 02:49:42,913 --> 02:49:46,183 SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES. 1980 02:49:46,183 --> 02:49:51,121 THINK THE WAY THE MAYOR PUT IT WAS THAT WAS AN ADVENTURE OF ITS 1981 02:49:51,121 --> 02:49:55,625 OWN, SPECIFICALLY NOT WITH FPL BUT FOR THE OTHER FRANCHISEES. 1982 02:49:55,625 --> 02:50:00,630 AND THEN THE OTHER ASPECT IS ALSO YOU HAVE TO GET PUBLIC 1983 02:50:00,630 --> 02:50:05,202 EASEMENTS FROM PROPERTY OWNERS, AND THAT TAKES TIME AS WELL. 1984 02:50:05,202 --> 02:50:07,710 SURE, WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ACCELERATE 1985 02:50:07,710 --> 02:50:12,742 THE PROJECT, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME BARRIERS THAT MAY PRECLUDE 1986 02:50:12,742 --> 02:50:16,120 US FROM GETTING THERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 1987 02:50:16,120 --> 02:50:18,147 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: IS THE CITY THE LEAD AGENCY IN THIS? 1988 02:50:18,147 --> 02:50:20,160 >>Nik Patel: THAT'S CORRECT. THE CITY WOULD BE. 1989 02:50:20,160 --> 02:50:20,817 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: THANK YOU. 1990 02:50:20,817 --> 02:50:26,217 ONE MORE QUESTION, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE LANGUAGE THAT 1991 02:50:27,157 --> 02:50:31,794 WOULD PROHIBIT THE CREATION OF A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT IN 1992 02:50:31,794 --> 02:50:35,165 ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD AT ANOTHER TIME, RIGHT? 1993 02:50:35,165 --> 02:50:36,501 >>Nik Patel: THAT IS CORRECT. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: THOSE 1994 02:50:36,501 --> 02:50:38,835 ARE MY QUESTIONS. >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. 1995 02:50:38,835 --> 02:50:42,435 VICE MAYOR. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: THANK YOU. 1996 02:50:47,444 --> 02:50:50,313 WHO ACTUALLY WOULD BE DOING THE PHYSICAL LABOR AFTER THE 1997 02:50:50,313 --> 02:50:54,450 PLANNING AND ALL THAT IS TAKEN CARE OF AND NOW YOU HAVE AN 1998 02:50:54,450 --> 02:50:59,250 IMPLEMENTATION PHASE, WHO WOULD BE DOING THE LABOR? 1999 02:50:59,389 --> 02:51:03,860 >>Nik Patel: FOR THE LIGHTING DISTRICT, THERE'S A MODEL THAT 2000 02:51:03,860 --> 02:51:10,460 HAS BEEN DONE BY THE COUNTY. ESSENTIALLY, FPL WOULD BE THE 2001 02:51:11,935 --> 02:51:15,939 LEAD ON THAT AS FAR AS PROVIDING THE LIGHTING, DOING THE 2002 02:51:15,939 --> 02:51:21,144 ANALYSIS, AND ALSO PROVIDING THE OPTIONS OF THE DIFFERENT LIGHT 2003 02:51:21,144 --> 02:51:26,544 POLES FOR THE LIGHTING DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY TIED TO THE 2004 02:51:28,485 --> 02:51:32,756 UNDERGROUNDING WOULD HAVE TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO WORK OUT 2005 02:51:32,756 --> 02:51:36,359 THE EASEMENTS AND WORK WITH FPL, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO PUT A 2006 02:51:36,359 --> 02:51:39,959 CONTRACTOR OUT TO BID TO UNDERGROUND. 2007 02:51:43,433 --> 02:51:46,235 THERE ARE SPECIALTY CONTRACTORS THAT WORK WITH FPL, AND THEY 2008 02:51:46,235 --> 02:51:49,272 WILL BE THE ONES THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY DO THE WORK 2009 02:51:49,272 --> 02:51:53,472 ASSOCIATED WITH IT. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: THANK YOU. 2010 02:51:53,510 --> 02:51:57,581 THE REASON FOR MY QUESTION IS, AT LEAST FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE 2011 02:51:57,581 --> 02:52:02,981 DOING THE WORK, I IMAGINE IT'S A SPECIALIZED EXPERTISE. 2012 02:52:06,589 --> 02:52:11,528 IF WE HAVE CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS WHO ARE SAYING WE HAVE THE 2013 02:52:11,528 --> 02:52:18,201 WHEREWITHAL TO PAY TO HAVE THIS WORK DONE, AND WE HAVE OTHER 2014 02:52:18,201 --> 02:52:22,806 NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY THAT ALSO HAVE BEEN ASKING TO BE 2015 02:52:22,806 --> 02:52:27,644 UNDERGROUNDED OR HAVE STREET LIGHTING, ARE THEY GOING TO BE 2016 02:52:27,644 --> 02:52:34,844 TAKING A BACK SEAT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BECOME A SPECIAL 2017 02:52:34,952 --> 02:52:41,552 DISTRICT AND PAY THE MONEY. CAN THERE BE, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE 2018 02:52:43,164 --> 02:52:46,501 FOR UNDERGROUNDING IN THESE BARRIER ISLANDS THAT ARE WILLING 2019 02:52:46,501 --> 02:52:52,273 TO PAY AND ALSO HAVE PARALLEL PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY IN 2020 02:52:52,273 --> 02:52:58,273 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY OR THE POOR NEIGHBORHOODS 2021 02:52:58,379 --> 02:53:04,979 GET PUSHED TO THE BACK BECAUSE THE WEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS GO OUT 2022 02:53:05,520 --> 02:53:06,854 FRONT? >> IF I CAN TAKE A CRACK AT 2023 02:53:06,854 --> 02:53:11,459 THAT, MADAM MAYOR. THIS SPECIFICALLY DEALS WITH THE 2024 02:53:11,459 --> 02:53:14,263 CREATION OF A DISTRICT WHICH HAS VERY DEFINED GEOGRAPHIC 2025 02:53:14,263 --> 02:53:17,664 BOUNDARIES. ONE OF THE THINGS, BEFORE I GET 2026 02:53:17,664 --> 02:53:20,635 TO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, THAT THE COMMISSION WILL NEED TO 2027 02:53:20,635 --> 02:53:25,139 KNOW, ONCE WE HAVE THE COSTS, WHICH WILL BE KNOWN ON A 2028 02:53:25,139 --> 02:53:29,677 PER-PROPERTY BASIS, YOU MAY WANT TO BE ASSURED THAT THERE'S 2029 02:53:29,677 --> 02:53:35,216 ENOUGH PEOPLE WHO STILL WANT TO DO IT, NOW THAT THEY KNOW THE 2030 02:53:35,216 --> 02:53:38,200 COST, IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'LL HAVE THAT QUEUED UP FOR 2031 02:53:38,200 --> 02:53:40,554 YOU. WHEN WE DO IT AS A DISTRICT, 2032 02:53:40,554 --> 02:53:44,910 WHICH IS THE PRIMARY WAY THIS IS DONE, HAVING DONE THIS ONCE 2033 02:53:44,910 --> 02:53:49,230 BEFORE ON A BARRIER ISLAND, SOME FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF IT, WHEN 2034 02:53:49,230 --> 02:53:52,400 YOU MOVE OUT OF THAT AND YOU SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, DOES THE CITY 2035 02:53:52,400 --> 02:53:55,770 WANT TO PAY FOR SOMETHING, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO MAKE A 2036 02:53:55,770 --> 02:53:59,373 POLICY -- YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE A POLICY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, 2037 02:53:59,373 --> 02:54:02,643 WHERE THE REVENUE WOULD COME FROM AND SO ON. 2038 02:54:02,643 --> 02:54:08,249 THIS ONE WILL REQUIRE THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO PAY AN 2039 02:54:08,249 --> 02:54:12,820 ASSESSMENT BASED ON THE BENEFIT DIRECTLY TO THEIR PROPERTY. 2040 02:54:12,820 --> 02:54:18,392 IT'S A VERY BENEFIT AND PROPERTY RELATED DETERMINATION OF COSTS. 2041 02:54:18,392 --> 02:54:22,530 IF YOU LOOK FOR A DIFFERENT MODEL, WE COULD HAVE THE POLICY 2042 02:54:22,530 --> 02:54:25,990 DISCUSSIONS AROUND WHAT THAT MIGHT BE. 2043 02:54:25,990 --> 02:54:26,400 THERE ARE DIFFERENT MODELS FOR IT. 2044 02:54:26,400 --> 02:54:30,471 IN FACT, YOU HEARD ONE EARLIER, FPL HAS DONE -- AND YOU HEARD 2045 02:54:30,471 --> 02:54:35,209 FROM THE FPL GENTLEMAN MAYBE TWO MONTHS AGO, THEY HAVE DONE VERY, 2046 02:54:35,209 --> 02:54:40,900 I CALL THEM LIMITED UNDERGROUNDING BASED ON THEIR 2047 02:54:40,130 --> 02:54:44,151 COMPLAINTS AND SO ON. BUT THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH DONE NOW 2048 02:54:44,151 --> 02:54:49,290 IN THE LAST THREE, FOUR, FIVE YEARS THAT THE COSTS ARE PRETTY 2049 02:54:49,290 --> 02:54:50,893 WELL KNOWN. THE ONLY VARIATION IS GOING TO 2050 02:54:50,893 --> 02:54:55,300 BE HOW DOES IT APPLY TO THE SPECIFIC PROPERTY. 2051 02:54:55,300 --> 02:54:57,898 BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A BENEFIT PAID BY THE PROPERTY OWNER. 2052 02:54:57,898 --> 02:55:02,302 THE CITY SETS UP THE DISTRICT, DOES ALL OF THE WORK, DOES THE 2053 02:55:02,302 --> 02:55:05,239 CONTRACTING, AS NIK SAID. THERE WOULD BE A BID FOR THE 2054 02:55:05,239 --> 02:55:07,908 CONSTRUCTION. WE'LL DO RFP FOR CONSULTANT THAT 2055 02:55:07,908 --> 02:55:11,312 HELPS US GET ALL OF THIS ORGANIZED AND UNDERWAY. 2056 02:55:11,312 --> 02:55:14,315 AND ALL OF THOSE COSTS GET WRAPPED INTO A FINANCING. 2057 02:55:14,315 --> 02:55:18,652 AND THEN PAID FOR OVER TIME BY EACH PROPERTY OWNER. 2058 02:55:18,652 --> 02:55:24,520 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I'M STILL CONCERNED, SO FPL HAS IDENTIFIED 2059 02:55:24,357 --> 02:55:28,662 A BLOCK HERE, A BLOCK THERE BASED ON PROBLEMS. 2060 02:55:28,662 --> 02:55:32,862 FPL HAS MOVED FORWARD TO UNDERGROUND THERE. 2061 02:55:33,400 --> 02:55:38,800 I'M WONDERING IF DOING THESE SPECIAL DISTRICTS WILL ABSORB 2062 02:55:40,207 --> 02:55:45,479 ALL THE AVAILABLE, LOCAL LABOR WHO CAN DO THE UNDERGROUNDING SO 2063 02:55:45,479 --> 02:55:50,884 THAT THE BLOCK HERE, BLOCK THERE IN SARASOTA THAT HAVE PROBLEMS 2064 02:55:50,884 --> 02:55:56,424 BUT ARE NOT IN ONE OF THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS WILL, SORRY, 2065 02:55:56,424 --> 02:55:59,760 WE DON'T HAVE MANPOWER TO FIX YOUR PROBLEM. 2066 02:55:59,760 --> 02:56:01,696 >>Dave Bullock: I BELIEVE THERE ARE ENOUGH UNDERGROUNDING 2067 02:56:01,696 --> 02:56:05,310 CONTRACTORS OUT THERE. IT'S HARD TO DRIVE VERY FAR IN 2068 02:56:05,310 --> 02:56:10,471 THIS STATE AND NOT SEE SOMEONE WITH A DIRECTIONAL BORE MACHINE 2069 02:56:10,471 --> 02:56:13,573 BURYING SOME TYPE OF CONDUIT. THERE ARE A LOT OF THOSE 2070 02:56:13,573 --> 02:56:15,575 CONTRACTORS OUT THERE. I CAN'T SPEAK SPECIFICALLY, BUT 2071 02:56:15,575 --> 02:56:20,380 I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THIS PROJECT ATE UP ALL THE 2072 02:56:20,380 --> 02:56:23,380 CONTRACTORS. I CAN'T ENVISION THAT. 2073 02:56:23,717 --> 02:56:27,454 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: SO I'M WONDERING, DO YOU ANTICIPATE 2074 02:56:27,454 --> 02:56:34,195 THAT THE CITY MAY STILL GO TO BAT WITH FPL FOR SOME OF OUR 2075 02:56:34,195 --> 02:56:38,199 OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH AND NEED 2076 02:56:38,199 --> 02:56:39,734 UNDERGROUNDING. >>Dave Bullock: WE'LL BE DEEPLY 2077 02:56:39,734 --> 02:56:42,803 ENGAGED WITH FPL ON THIS PROJECT. 2078 02:56:42,803 --> 02:56:45,272 WE CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THEIR CRITERIA, THEIR TIMING. 2079 02:56:45,272 --> 02:56:50,644 REMEMBER, THEY ARE OPERATING UNDER A PSC MANDATE TO 2080 02:56:50,644 --> 02:56:52,212 UNDERGROUND EVERYTHING WITHIN 30 YEARS. 2081 02:56:52,212 --> 02:56:56,412 SO THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY TIME DRIVEN. 2082 02:56:56,683 --> 02:56:59,754 CERTAINLY NOT AS URGENT AS WHAT YOU HEAR FROM THESE RESIDENTS 2083 02:56:59,754 --> 02:57:04,554 AND BUSINESSES. BUT THEY ARE ON THAT LONG 2084 02:57:04,691 --> 02:57:10,691 PROJECT BASED ON THE PSC RULINGS TO UNDERGROUND WITHIN 30 YEARS. 2085 02:57:11,365 --> 02:57:14,968 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT CERTAIN 2086 02:57:14,968 --> 02:57:18,505 NEIGHBORHOODS WHOSE FPL POLES ARE AT AN ANGLE AND CONTINUE TO 2087 02:57:18,505 --> 02:57:23,430 BE AT AN ANGLE AND DON'T WANT THEM PUSHED OFF TEN YEARS 2088 02:57:23,430 --> 02:57:25,846 BECAUSE OF THIS. THANK YOU. 2089 02:57:25,846 --> 02:57:28,249 >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH. 2090 02:57:28,249 --> 02:57:30,450 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE APPROVAL PROCESS 2091 02:57:30,450 --> 02:57:34,500 NEEDED FOR THIS FROM THIS COMMISSION? 2092 02:57:34,122 --> 02:57:36,723 LET'S SAY THE DISTRICT, COME BACK WITH A PLAN. 2093 02:57:36,723 --> 02:57:41,610 COST THIS MUCH PER PERSON. THIS IS WHAT -- WHAT TIMELINE. 2094 02:57:41,610 --> 02:57:44,665 FROM OUR END, WHAT IS THE APPROVAL PROCESS AS FAR AS 2095 02:57:44,665 --> 02:57:48,865 CREATING THE DISTRICT? THREE, SUPERMAJORITY OR FIVE? 2096 02:57:51,271 --> 02:57:54,871 >> THREE. >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU, BOB. 2097 02:57:59,120 --> 02:58:00,213 >>Dave Bullock: THERE WILL BE A FINANCING. 2098 02:58:00,213 --> 02:58:03,551 THAT FINANCING WILL COME TO THE COMMISSION IN THE FORM OF A BOND 2099 02:58:03,551 --> 02:58:06,420 ISSUE. IT WILL BE DEBT, WHICH IS 2100 02:58:06,420 --> 02:58:11,492 PROBABLY BACKED BY, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, COVENANT TO BUDGET AND 2101 02:58:11,492 --> 02:58:13,894 APPROPRIATE LEGALLY AVAILABLE NON-AD VALOREM REVENUE, BUT YOU 2102 02:58:13,894 --> 02:58:17,665 WILL REPAY IT WITH THE ASSESSMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE 2103 02:58:17,665 --> 02:58:21,101 PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: WILL THAT 2104 02:58:21,101 --> 02:58:25,380 IMPACT OUR BOND RATING AT ALL? >>Dave Bullock: NO, IT WON'T. 2105 02:58:25,380 --> 02:58:28,420 I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF IT DID. I SEE NO SCENARIO WHERE THAT 2106 02:58:28,420 --> 02:58:32,242 IMPACTS IT. THESE ARE PRETTY STANDARD BONDS. 2107 02:58:32,780 --> 02:58:35,649 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: CONCEIVABLY, COULD EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE 2108 02:58:35,649 --> 02:58:38,986 CITY APPLY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS? 2109 02:58:38,986 --> 02:58:41,222 >>Nik Patel: SURE. THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET AT LEAST 2110 02:58:41,222 --> 02:58:44,525 TWO-THIRDS OR A MAJORITY OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS TO AGREE TO 2111 02:58:44,525 --> 02:58:48,665 THIS, AND THEN WE CAN DO THE SAME PROCESS FOR THEM AS WELL. 2112 02:58:48,665 --> 02:58:51,935 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: ON THE EASEMENT SITUATION, WHAT IF AN 2113 02:58:51,935 --> 02:58:57,935 EASEMENT IS NOT GRANTED? >>Nik Patel: THERE ARE WAYS TO 2114 02:58:59,343 --> 02:59:04,743 WORK AROUND THAT. WE WILL NEED -- SOME PROPERTIES 2115 02:59:06,683 --> 02:59:11,688 WILL -- IT IS MORE AN EDUCATION ASPECT OF IT TO EXPLAIN THE NEED 2116 02:59:11,688 --> 02:59:15,859 FOR THE EASEMENT. CERTAINLY, A PROPERTY HAS A 2117 02:59:15,859 --> 02:59:22,432 RIGHT TO NOT GRANT AN EASEMENT, BUT I'M SURE WE CAN WORK ON A 2118 02:59:22,432 --> 02:59:25,802 CASE-BY-CASE BASIS ON THAT. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: MR. BULLOCK, 2119 02:59:25,802 --> 02:59:29,307 YOU MAY REMEMBER. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT 2120 02:59:29,307 --> 02:59:34,111 WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE HUNDRED PERCENT AGREEMENT ON SOMETHING 2121 02:59:34,111 --> 02:59:38,415 LIKE THIS AND THEY GOT IT. >>Dave Bullock: NO. 2122 02:59:38,415 --> 02:59:40,490 IN LONGBOAT KEY WE DID TWO REFERENDA. 2123 02:59:40,490 --> 02:59:44,788 ONE PASSED BY ABOUT 70 PERCENT AND ONE BY ABOUT SOMEWHERE NEAR 2124 02:59:44,788 --> 02:59:48,258 60 PERCENT. IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS NOW 2125 02:59:48,258 --> 02:59:51,127 EXACTLY. THE COMMISSION SIMPLY SAID 2126 02:59:51,127 --> 02:59:57,330 MAJORITY WOULD CARRY THE DAY. YOU DO GET TO SET, YOU ALL HAVE 2127 02:59:57,330 --> 03:00:00,871 TO DECIDE TO FORM THE DISTRICT AND THEN INCUR DEBT ON BEHALF OF 2128 03:00:00,871 --> 03:00:04,700 THE CITY. YOU DO NEED TO REACH A COMFORT 2129 03:00:04,700 --> 03:00:06,610 LEVEL THAT ENOUGH OF THE RESIDENTS WANT TO DO THIS, THEY 2130 03:00:06,610 --> 03:00:10,347 NOW KNOW THE COST TO DO THIS, THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO MOVE 2131 03:00:10,347 --> 03:00:14,547 FORWARD. YOUR ORDINANCE DOES SET OUT SOME 2132 03:00:15,819 --> 03:00:19,230 MINIMUMS, BUT YOU'LL NEED TO EITHER AGREE WITH WHAT'S ALREADY 2133 03:00:19,230 --> 03:00:23,628 BEEN SET OUT OR SET NEW MINIMUMS IN ORDER TO GIVE YOURSELVES 2134 03:00:23,628 --> 03:00:27,397 COMFORT TO DO IT. BECAUSE THE LAST THING YOU WANT 2135 03:00:27,397 --> 03:00:32,235 TO DO IS GET 50% OF THE VOTE PLUS ONE PERSON, AND THEN YOU 2136 03:00:32,235 --> 03:00:38,374 HAVE 49.9 PERCENT THAT ARE JUST VERY, VERY UPSET BECAUSE THIS IS 2137 03:00:38,374 --> 03:00:41,312 AN ASSESSMENT THAT WILL BE ON THEIR PROPERTY BILLS IF THEY 2138 03:00:41,312 --> 03:00:45,480 DON'T PAY IT ALL UP FRONT FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. 2139 03:00:45,480 --> 03:00:50,653 IT IS A SIGNIFICANT COST. THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE THINGS 2140 03:00:50,653 --> 03:00:55,592 WE CAN BRING FORWARD IN THE NEXT ITERATION OF THE PROCESS IS HOW 2141 03:00:55,592 --> 03:00:58,661 YOU WANT TO DO THIS. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET 2142 03:00:58,661 --> 03:01:01,931 STARTED, TO START THOSE COST ESTIMATES, SO THAT THE RESIDENTS 2143 03:01:01,931 --> 03:01:06,135 AND BUSINESSES, THE PROPERTY OWNERS KNOW OR HAVE A DECENT 2144 03:01:06,135 --> 03:01:10,700 IDEA OF WHAT THEIR COSTS WOULD BE. 2145 03:01:10,700 --> 03:01:15,407 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: MR. PATEL, AT THE PRESENTATION BY MAYOR 2146 03:01:15,545 --> 03:01:19,549 SCHNEIDER AT LIDO ON SATURDAY MORNING, ONE THING HE DID SAY 2147 03:01:19,549 --> 03:01:22,719 WHICH SHOCKED ME TREMENDOUSLY, BECAUSE I REALLY ALMOST EVERY 2148 03:01:22,719 --> 03:01:27,424 HEARD OF THIS, WAS THAT THE COST WAS $6 MILLION LESS THAN THEY 2149 03:01:27,424 --> 03:01:28,591 WERE QUOTED OR THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE. 2150 03:01:28,591 --> 03:01:32,729 DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS DUE TO? COULD ANY OF THESE OTHER 2151 03:01:32,729 --> 03:01:37,768 NEIGHBORHOODS EXPECT A SURPRISE LIKE THAT TOO TO BE GIVEN THEM? 2152 03:01:37,768 --> 03:01:41,838 >>Dave Bullock: CAN I ANSWER THAT ONE? 2153 03:01:41,838 --> 03:01:49,380 AT THE TIME, THE TOWN MANAGER OF LONGBOAT KEY ADDED 15% TO THE 2154 03:01:49,112 --> 03:01:53,312 ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE. BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN A 2155 03:01:53,917 --> 03:01:58,655 PROJECT THAT DID NOT, COMPLEX, LONG PERIOD OF TIME THAT DID NOT 2156 03:01:58,655 --> 03:02:01,925 GO OVER BUDGET. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT 2157 03:02:01,925 --> 03:02:05,662 NUMBER WAS, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT'S WHAT HE DID AND THE 2158 03:02:05,662 --> 03:02:09,332 PROJECT TURNED OUT NOT TO NEED MOST OF IT. 2159 03:02:09,332 --> 03:02:11,401 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: SO IT WAS OVERESTIMATING. 2160 03:02:11,401 --> 03:02:16,206 IT WASN'T THAT THERE WERE ECONOMIES OF SCALE OR THAT THEY 2161 03:02:16,206 --> 03:02:20,406 PURCHASED BULK IN SOMETHING. I GUESS NOT. 2162 03:02:22,145 --> 03:02:28,745 AND THEN TO THE VICE MAYOR'S OVERARCHING CONCERN, A WHILE AGO 2163 03:02:29,619 --> 03:02:34,391 AND MAYBE SOMEBODY FROM FPL CAN SPEAK TO THIS, I WAS AT A 2164 03:02:34,391 --> 03:02:38,628 FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETING AND SOMEBODY FROM FPL SAID THAT 2165 03:02:38,628 --> 03:02:42,398 THERE ARE IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE A 2166 03:02:42,398 --> 03:02:46,437 NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD WITH UNDERGROUNDING 2167 03:02:46,437 --> 03:02:49,773 THEMSELVES AND WOULD TAKE A PORTION OF THE RESPONSIBILITY, 2168 03:02:49,773 --> 03:02:54,177 THERE ARE GRANTS AVAILABLE FOR PARTIAL FUNDING, BUT YOU HAVE TO 2169 03:02:54,177 --> 03:02:56,847 MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE GRANTS 2170 03:02:56,847 --> 03:03:01,852 ARE STILL AVAILABLE, BUT PERHAPS WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT IN THIS 2171 03:03:01,852 --> 03:03:05,452 SITUATION THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO. 2172 03:03:06,790 --> 03:03:09,860 >>Nik Patel: YES, WE'LL LOOK INTO THE GRANTS FOR THAT. 2173 03:03:09,860 --> 03:03:12,362 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. >>Mayor Alpert: COMMISSIONER 2174 03:03:12,362 --> 03:03:13,396 BATTIE. >>Kyle Battie: THANK YOU ALL FOR 2175 03:03:13,396 --> 03:03:14,531 YOUR PRESENTATION. APPRECIATE IT. 2176 03:03:14,531 --> 03:03:20,203 THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GUESS THIS SPEAKS TO THE VICE 2177 03:03:20,203 --> 03:03:23,607 MAYOR'S POINT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CREATING 2178 03:03:23,607 --> 03:03:30,807 THESE DISTRICTS OR TIFs, IF YOU WILL, TAKE CARE OF THIS TYPE 2179 03:03:31,140 --> 03:03:37,614 OF SITUATION, AND HOW THAT PERTAINS TO AREAS, IT'S OF THE 2180 03:03:40,957 --> 03:03:43,392 UTMOST URGENCY OUT ON THE BARRIER ISLANDS. 2181 03:03:43,392 --> 03:03:48,999 WE KNOW THAT. AND EVEN AREAS IN THE CITY THAT 2182 03:03:48,999 --> 03:03:52,702 FLOODED UP NEAR WHERE I AM, LIKE WHITAKER BAYOU. 2183 03:03:52,702 --> 03:03:59,902 SAY IN DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT THREE AND WHATNOT, LET'S KEEP IT 2184 03:04:00,644 --> 03:04:05,181 REAL, DISTRICT TWO HAS ALL THE MONEY AND WHATNOT. 2185 03:04:05,181 --> 03:04:08,318 DISTRICT ONE DOESN'T NOR DOES DISTRICT THREE. 2186 03:04:08,318 --> 03:04:14,291 HOW DOES THIS WORK WITH THOSE DISTRICTS IN TERMS OF THEM 2187 03:04:14,291 --> 03:04:18,600 FINDING FUNDING TO GET THESE THINGS DONE? 2188 03:04:18,600 --> 03:04:20,464 >>Dave Bullock: I'LL TAKE THAT ONE, TOO, BECAUSE FUNDING IS 2189 03:04:20,464 --> 03:04:25,602 KIND OF IN MY ARENA THERE. IT'S NOT AS NEAT AND IT'S NOT AS 2190 03:04:25,602 --> 03:04:29,720 CLEAN AS THE CREATION OF A DISTRICT WHERE THE PROPERTY 2191 03:04:29,720 --> 03:04:32,800 OWNERS AGREE TO PAY. AND YOU'RE SECURE THAT ONE, THEY 2192 03:04:32,800 --> 03:04:35,712 WANT TO DO IT, TWO, THEY JUST MADE THE COMMITMENT AND THERE IS 2193 03:04:35,712 --> 03:04:39,483 AN ASSESSMENT PLACED ON THEM. YOU DO HAVE SOME OTHER TOOLS. 2194 03:04:39,483 --> 03:04:43,620 I'M NOT SAYING RIGHT OR WRONG, ADVOCATING FOR OR AGAINST, 2195 03:04:43,620 --> 03:04:45,889 CRAs HAVE BEEN USED TO UNDERGROUND IN THE PAST. 2196 03:04:45,889 --> 03:04:48,425 IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT. IT'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE 2197 03:04:48,425 --> 03:04:49,627 IMPROVEMENT THAT BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY. 2198 03:04:49,627 --> 03:04:55,298 SO THAT IS A METHOD. THE CITY CAN EXPLORE SOME OTHER 2199 03:04:55,298 --> 03:05:01,372 METHODS THAT WILL HELP YOU KIND OF WORK THROUGH, POSSIBLY SOME 2200 03:05:01,372 --> 03:05:04,876 GRANTS, PROBABLY WON'T MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DENT IN THE OVERALL 2201 03:05:04,876 --> 03:05:08,980 COST BUT MIGHT HELP. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE 2202 03:05:08,980 --> 03:05:11,650 FEDERAL PROGRAMS MIGHT BE APPLICABLE. 2203 03:05:11,650 --> 03:05:14,219 THEY ARE ALL PART OF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND 2204 03:05:14,219 --> 03:05:17,789 RESILIENCY, WHICH IS GETTING SOME PRETTY DECENT FUNDING. 2205 03:05:17,789 --> 03:05:20,791 I'M SORRY NOT SURE THAT THEY'LL QUALIFY, BUT THOSE ARE THE KIND 2206 03:05:20,791 --> 03:05:25,620 OF THINGS THAT I WOULD START TO LOOK AT. 2207 03:05:25,620 --> 03:05:28,133 >>Kyle Battie: THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT CAME TO MIND 2208 03:05:28,133 --> 03:05:31,360 WHEN THINKING ABOUT NEWTOWN WAS THE CRA AND HOW THAT FUNDING 2209 03:05:31,360 --> 03:05:34,405 WORKS WITH THE CRA. BUT THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. 2210 03:05:34,405 --> 03:05:37,800 THANK YOU, MAYOR. >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. 2211 03:05:37,800 --> 03:05:41,808 THANK YOU. IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, 2212 03:05:42,113 --> 03:05:44,949 CAN I GET A MOTION? >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I'LL 2213 03:05:44,949 --> 03:05:49,749 MAKE A MOTION, MAYOR. MOVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE STAKEHOLDER 2214 03:05:50,354 --> 03:05:56,940 SUPPORT AND AUTHORIZE CITY STAFF TO CONDUCT ITEMS 1 THROUGH 4 AS 2215 03:05:56,940 --> 03:06:02,940 INDICATED ON PAGE 2 OF THE AGENDA REQUEST FORM FOR AGENDA 2216 03:06:02,299 --> 03:06:04,699 NUMBER 12.1. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: SECOND. 2217 03:06:05,360 --> 03:06:09,708 >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER OHLRICH MOVED TO 2218 03:06:09,708 --> 03:06:14,946 ACKNOWLEDGE STAKEHOLDER SUPPORT AND AUTHORIZE CITY STAFF TO DO 2219 03:06:14,946 --> 03:06:18,916 ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR ON THE ADMINISTRATION'S 2220 03:06:18,916 --> 03:06:20,916 RECOMMENDATIONS. COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH 2221 03:06:21,386 --> 03:06:23,786 SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS? 2222 03:06:24,922 --> 03:06:26,924 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I THINK WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF DISCUSSION. 2223 03:06:26,924 --> 03:06:28,793 >>Mayor Alpert: OKAY. THANK YOU. 2224 03:06:28,793 --> 03:06:32,730 IF YOU WILL VOTE. IS THAT YOUR VOTE, 2225 03:06:32,730 --> 03:06:34,730 COMMISSIONERS? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 2226 03:06:37,201 --> 03:06:38,736 CONGRATULATIONS. OKAY. 2227 03:06:38,736 --> 03:06:43,536 ALL RIGHT. WE ARE NOW AT ITEM 12.2, NEW 2228 03:06:49,279 --> 03:06:51,279 BUSINESS. VERY EXCITING. 2229 03:06:54,152 --> 03:07:00,358 THIS IS PLAN FOR THE BAY PARK PHASE 3A AND DESIGN OF 3B BY THE 2230 03:07:00,358 --> 03:07:06,431 BAY PARK CONSERVANCY TO BE FINANCED IN THE FUTURE WITH THE 2231 03:07:06,431 --> 03:07:11,831 REVENUE PAID UTILIZING THE BAY TAX INCREMENTAL FINANCING FUND. 2232 03:07:12,603 --> 03:07:17,400 I AM GOING TO CALL UPON AG LAFLEY, COO OF THE BAY PARK 2233 03:07:17,400 --> 03:07:20,400 CONSERVANCY, TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. 2234 03:07:20,978 --> 03:07:23,314 THANK YOU ALL. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL 2235 03:07:23,314 --> 03:07:28,114 DAY FOR THIS. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. 2236 03:07:28,453 --> 03:07:31,122 >> HANG ON ONE SEC. FIRST, I HAVE TO FIND MY WAY 2237 03:07:31,122 --> 03:07:35,922 INTO THE PROGRAM. >>Mayor Alpert: MILES TO THE 2238 03:07:37,396 --> 03:07:39,396 RESCUE. >> ALL RIGHT. 2239 03:07:54,679 --> 03:07:56,130 JENNIFER. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. 2240 03:07:56,130 --> 03:07:58,883 I'M JENNIFER COMPTON. I'M CHAIR OF THE BAY PARK 2241 03:07:58,883 --> 03:08:02,200 CONSERVANCY. WITH ME IS AG LAFLEY, OUR 2242 03:08:02,200 --> 03:08:06,230 FOUNDING CEO, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU FOR 2243 03:08:06,230 --> 03:08:10,161 MAYBE THE NINTH TIME I THINK DOING THIS. 2244 03:08:10,161 --> 03:08:13,970 AND MORE ALONG THE WAY. FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, 2245 03:08:13,970 --> 03:08:16,868 WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AND SEEK APPROVAL FOR THE 2246 03:08:16,868 --> 03:08:20,304 NEXT PHASE OF THE BAY PARK. I'M GOING TO TAKE US FROM THE 2247 03:08:20,304 --> 03:08:25,309 PAST TO THE PRESENT. AG WILL TAKE US FROM THE PRESENT 2248 03:08:25,309 --> 03:08:28,309 FORWARD. CAN YOU PROJECT IT? 2249 03:08:32,517 --> 03:08:37,917 >> I WAS DOING SO WELL. WE'LL GO BACK ONE. 2250 03:08:47,398 --> 03:08:51,869 >> THIS IS OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY. WE WILL GO AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. 2251 03:08:51,869 --> 03:08:54,500 WE KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE ALREADY. 2252 03:08:54,500 --> 03:08:57,875 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE STARTING POINT AS ALWAYS, WE 2253 03:08:57,875 --> 03:09:00,770 KNOW THAT GREAT CITIES HAVE GREAT PARKS. 2254 03:09:00,770 --> 03:09:05,820 AND THE BAY PARK AND OUR HUMBLE ESTIMATION IS OUR MILLENNIUM 2255 03:09:05,820 --> 03:09:06,984 PARK. IT IS OUR CENTRAL PARK, AND WE 2256 03:09:06,984 --> 03:09:11,223 WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE IT THE OUTSTANDING PLACE IT IS AND 2257 03:09:11,223 --> 03:09:13,157 COMPLEMENT TO THE CITY PARK SYSTEM. 2258 03:09:13,157 --> 03:09:17,294 EVERY BIT OF WORK DONE ON THAT SITE IS DONE AND DRIVEN BY THREE 2259 03:09:17,294 --> 03:09:20,765 ENDURING GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE SCREEN. 2260 03:09:20,765 --> 03:09:24,302 THEY INFORM EVERY DECISION WE MAKE AND EVERY DOLLAR WE SPEND, 2261 03:09:24,302 --> 03:09:26,838 AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE THAT'S NOT ATTENDED ONE OF OUR 2262 03:09:26,838 --> 03:09:28,390 BOARD MEETINGS TO COME AND LISTEN. 2263 03:09:28,390 --> 03:09:30,576 WE TALK ABOUT THIS STUFF ALL THE TIME. 2264 03:09:30,576 --> 03:09:34,244 TODAY, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON BLUE AND GREEN OASIS 2265 03:09:34,244 --> 03:09:37,381 FOR A PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION. 2266 03:09:37,381 --> 03:09:39,117 SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN WITH US SINCE THE BEGINNING, FOR THOSE 2267 03:09:39,117 --> 03:09:42,387 OF YOU THAT HAVEN'T, WE'LL TAKE A QUICK WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE, 2268 03:09:42,387 --> 03:09:45,456 GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE SARASOTA BAYFRONT PLANNING 2269 03:09:45,456 --> 03:09:49,600 ORGANIZATION. THAT WAS THE ENTITY THAT CAME ON 2270 03:09:49,600 --> 03:09:53,998 THE HEELS OF BAYFRONT 2020 AND A COUPLE OF ANOTHER INITIATIVES 2271 03:09:53,998 --> 03:09:55,866 THAT WAS THE SEEDING GROUND FONT INITIATIVE. 2272 03:09:55,866 --> 03:09:59,700 FROM THERE, WE PUT TOGETHER THE BAY PARK MASTER PLAN WHICH THIS 2273 03:09:59,700 --> 03:10:01,672 COMMISSION APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2018. 2274 03:10:01,672 --> 03:10:06,440 THEN WE CREATED THE BAY PARK CONSERVANCY TO HELP US RUN, 2275 03:10:06,440 --> 03:10:10,810 IMPLEMENT, AND OPERATE THE PARK. OUR FIRST PROJECT WAS THE 2276 03:10:10,810 --> 03:10:13,500 FOUNTAIN GARDEN RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER OF BOULEVARD OF THE 2277 03:10:13,500 --> 03:10:16,387 ARTS AND 41. AND THAT WAS DONE IN JANUARY OF 2278 03:10:16,387 --> 03:10:19,957 2020, RIGHT BEFORE COVID. IT REALLY, WE THINK, SET THE 2279 03:10:19,957 --> 03:10:23,270 TONE FOR WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE AS A PARK. 2280 03:10:23,270 --> 03:10:28,266 THEN BEPROGRESSED TO DOING THE BAYOU MANGROVE WALKWAY, WHICH IS 2281 03:10:28,266 --> 03:10:29,834 PHENOMENAL. I'M SURE YOU HAVE ALL BEEN 2282 03:10:29,834 --> 03:10:31,235 THERE. THAT WAS AN EARLY INITIATIVE AND 2283 03:10:31,235 --> 03:10:35,172 DONE WITH THE HELP OF ONE OF OUR LOCAL FOUNDATIONS, THE BARANCIK 2284 03:10:35,172 --> 03:10:37,107 FOUNDATION. THEN WE QUICKLY MOVED INTO PHASE 2285 03:10:37,107 --> 03:10:38,976 ONE. PHASE ONE, AS I KNOW EVERYBODY 2286 03:10:38,976 --> 03:10:42,113 ON THE COMMISSION KNOWS, IS THAT BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND RIGHT 2287 03:10:42,113 --> 03:10:45,383 THERE ALONG BOULEVARD OF THE ARTS WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF 2288 03:10:45,383 --> 03:10:47,685 COMMUNITY CELEBRATIONS, INCLUDING OUR MONTHLONG 2289 03:10:47,685 --> 03:10:51,856 CELEBRATION GOING ON RIGHT NOW. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE MIDDLE 2290 03:10:51,856 --> 03:10:55,860 OF PHASE TWO, AND WE ARE COMING UP WITH SIMILAR PROJECTS BEING 2291 03:10:55,860 --> 03:10:58,196 DONE. AG WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON 2292 03:10:58,196 --> 03:11:01,132 ALL OF THE PHASE TWO UPDATES. IT WILL BE REALLY GOOD. 2293 03:11:01,132 --> 03:11:04,680 THEN MOVING INTO PHASE THREE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT OUR GOAL IS 2294 03:11:04,680 --> 03:11:07,205 TO DELIVER AS MUCH PARK AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FOR OUR 2295 03:11:07,205 --> 03:11:11,209 COMMUNITY. I THINK YOU'LL SEE FROM THE 2296 03:11:11,209 --> 03:11:16,810 SLIDE, WE BUILT MOMENTUM. WE HAVE A PARALLEL TRACK OF NOT 2297 03:11:16,810 --> 03:11:18,149 ONLY DOING THE PROJECT BUT RUNNING THE PARK. 2298 03:11:18,149 --> 03:11:21,753 WE THINK THAT BY DOING IT PARALLEL WITH EACH OTHER WE SAVE 2299 03:11:21,753 --> 03:11:24,288 MONEY AND WE DELIVER ON OUR PROMISE TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY AS 2300 03:11:24,288 --> 03:11:26,959 MUCH PARK AS POSSIBLE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 2301 03:11:26,959 --> 03:11:29,794 AS A CONSERVANCY, WE HAVE FOUR MAIN ROLES. 2302 03:11:29,794 --> 03:11:32,630 THESE ARE ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU. 2303 03:11:32,630 --> 03:11:35,966 WE KNOW IT'S OUR JOB TO DO THE MASTER PLAN, DESIGN PLAN AND 2304 03:11:35,966 --> 03:11:37,802 DEVELOP EACH PHASE OF THE NEW PARK. 2305 03:11:37,802 --> 03:11:41,106 THEN WE HAVE TO MANAGE, OPERATE, MAINTAIN IT AND RAISE FUNDS THAT 2306 03:11:41,106 --> 03:11:44,308 ARE CONTRIBUTED IN EXCESS OF WHAT THE CITY AND COUNTY GIVE 2307 03:11:44,308 --> 03:11:46,244 US. THOSE LOOK LIKE FOUR SHORT 2308 03:11:46,244 --> 03:11:50,448 LITTLE SENTENCES AND THEY ARE QUITE BIG TASKS, WE KNOW. 2309 03:11:50,448 --> 03:11:54,251 WE THOUGHT WE WOULD SHARE WITH YOU FUNDING OF THE PARK. 2310 03:11:54,251 --> 03:11:57,455 THE SLIDE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE WHAT IT IS FOR IMPLEMENTATION 2311 03:11:57,455 --> 03:12:00,124 AND OPERATION, BECAUSE LET'S NOT FORGET WE'RE NOT JUST BUILDING 2312 03:12:00,124 --> 03:12:01,192 IT. WE HAVE TO RUN IT. 2313 03:12:01,192 --> 03:12:03,727 THEN ON THE RIGHT IS IMPLEMENTATION ONLY. 2314 03:12:03,727 --> 03:12:06,798 IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IT COSTS US TO HAVE THE BAY PARK 2315 03:12:06,798 --> 03:12:11,736 IMPLEMENTATION AND OPERATIONS, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE BPC HAS DONE 2316 03:12:11,736 --> 03:12:15,336 56% OF IT. WITH NON-CITY, NONCOUNTY FUNDS. 2317 03:12:15,739 --> 03:12:19,410 WE THINK THAT IS A PRETTY IMPRESSIVE NUMBER. 2318 03:12:19,410 --> 03:12:23,514 WHERE DID WE START? THIS WAS THE BEAUTIFUL SITE BACK 2319 03:12:23,514 --> 03:12:26,351 IN 1930. NOTICE THE BAY IS STILL WHERE IT 2320 03:12:26,351 --> 03:12:29,219 IS TODAY WHEN THEY BUILT THE SITE AND STARTED FILLING IT. 2321 03:12:29,219 --> 03:12:35,226 WE ENDED UP WITH 53 ACRES ON THE BAY, WHICH BECAME A PARKING LOT 2322 03:12:35,226 --> 03:12:37,950 SURROUNDING OUR PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. 2323 03:12:37,950 --> 03:12:39,564 THIS MASSIVE PARKING LOT THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF 2324 03:12:39,564 --> 03:12:42,966 THE SCREEN THAT'S ADJACENT TO VAN WEZEL IS THE BIGGEST 2325 03:12:42,966 --> 03:12:46,504 POLLUTER ON THE SITE TODAY. ALSO OUR GREATEST OPPORTUNITY TO 2326 03:12:46,504 --> 03:12:50,707 MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN WATER QUALITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 2327 03:12:50,707 --> 03:12:54,545 SO WE SET OUT ABOUT MAKING A MASTER PLAN TO CHANGE THAT 2328 03:12:54,545 --> 03:12:55,913 SITUATION. WHAT WAS THE PLAN? 2329 03:12:55,913 --> 03:13:00,785 IT WAS TO TAKE THESE PRECIOUS 53 ACRES AND OVER THE COURSE OF WE 2330 03:13:00,785 --> 03:13:04,389 THOUGHT 8 TO 10 YEARS, SPEND ABOUT $200 MILLION, DO ABOUT 2331 03:13:04,389 --> 03:13:09,600 FOUR OR SO PHASES, AND IT INCLUDED FOUR BUILDINGS THAT ARE 2332 03:13:09,600 --> 03:13:11,662 ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES WHICH POSE THEIR 2333 03:13:11,662 --> 03:13:13,332 OWN CHALLENGE. SOMEHOW WITH ALL THAT, WE ARE 2334 03:13:13,332 --> 03:13:16,100 GOING TO BUILD A PARK. AND WE DID. 2335 03:13:16,100 --> 03:13:20,738 IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARK TODAY, WE HAVE OVER 700,000 USERS THAT 2336 03:13:20,738 --> 03:13:24,475 COME TO THE PARK TO DO EITHER PARK RELATED ACTIVITIES OR ONE 2337 03:13:24,475 --> 03:13:29,947 OF OUR MANY SITE PARTNERS. THAT IS DOUBLE THE AMOUNT THAT 2338 03:13:29,947 --> 03:13:33,685 WAS ON THE SITE THREE YEARS AGO, AND WE BELIEVE IN ANOTHER THREE 2339 03:13:33,685 --> 03:13:37,200 YEARS, WE'LL GET IT UP TO A MILLION USERS A YEAR, WHICH IS 2340 03:13:37,200 --> 03:13:42,420 PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. WHILE WE SET OUT TO BUILD A 2341 03:13:42,493 --> 03:13:43,961 PARK, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING SO MUCH MORE. 2342 03:13:43,961 --> 03:13:47,966 A LOT OF THIS IS ON THE BLUE AND GREEN OASIS WE TALKED ABOUT. 2343 03:13:47,966 --> 03:13:50,368 THIS IS CLEANING UP. IT'S IMPROVING STORMWATER. 2344 03:13:50,368 --> 03:13:54,238 IT'S MAKING IT MORE RESILIENT. HOW MANY TIMES TODAY WE HEARD 2345 03:13:54,238 --> 03:13:56,574 THE WORD RESILIENT. RESTORING, PRESERVING AND ADDING 2346 03:13:56,574 --> 03:13:59,510 TO THE GREENSPACE. AND IN ADDITION TO ALL THAT WE 2347 03:13:59,510 --> 03:14:02,446 HAVE FUN WHILE THERE AND A REALLY COOL PARK. 2348 03:14:02,446 --> 03:14:06,650 THE RESULT IS THAT WE HAVE A PARK THAT HAS 20 PLUS ACRES 2349 03:14:06,650 --> 03:14:10,254 ALREADY WITH GOLF COURSE QUALITY LAWNS, BEAUTIFUL GARDENS, A LOT 2350 03:14:10,254 --> 03:14:13,758 OF FUN ACTIVITIES, AND EVERY SINGLE DAY THE PARK LOOKS LIKE 2351 03:14:13,758 --> 03:14:15,693 IT DID THE FIRST DAY WE OPENED IT. 2352 03:14:15,693 --> 03:14:19,997 AND THAT IS THE STANDARD WE HOLD OURSELVES TO. 2353 03:14:19,997 --> 03:14:22,733 WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE TWO ESSENTIAL ROLES OF THE BAY PARK 2354 03:14:22,733 --> 03:14:26,400 SITE WHICH SOUNDS SILLY WHEN TALKING ABOUT A PARK BUT TRUE. 2355 03:14:26,400 --> 03:14:29,540 BAY PARK SITE PROTECTS SARASOTA BAY FROM THE CITY. 2356 03:14:29,540 --> 03:14:31,609 ALL OF THE WATER QUALITY ISSUES THAT WE HAVE. 2357 03:14:31,609 --> 03:14:34,212 BUT THE PARK ALSO PROTECTS THE CITY FROM SARASOTA BAY. 2358 03:14:34,212 --> 03:14:38,149 IT STANDS AS A BARRIER BETWEEN THE BAY AND THE CITY SO WE TAKE 2359 03:14:38,149 --> 03:14:40,551 VERY SERIOUSLY OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP PROTECT 2360 03:14:40,551 --> 03:14:45,223 OUR WONDERFUL CITY. RESILIENCE WAS THE WORD OF THE 2361 03:14:45,223 --> 03:14:49,360 YEAR LAST YEAR AND CERTAINLY THE LESSONS WE LEARNED IN THE STORMS 2362 03:14:49,360 --> 03:14:51,295 WAS THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE MORE RESILIENT. 2363 03:14:51,295 --> 03:14:55,990 WE KNEW THAT WE WERE BUILDING A PARK FOR RESILIENCY, BUT EVEN WE 2364 03:14:55,990 --> 03:14:58,369 LEARNED SOME LESSONS. THE BAY PARK SUSTAINED OVER A 2365 03:14:58,369 --> 03:15:03,507 MILLION DOLLARS IN DAMAGES. BIG NUMBER, AND THIS WAS A PARK 2366 03:15:03,507 --> 03:15:06,711 THAT WAS BUILT FOR RESILIENCY. I WOULD POINT OUT OUR PARK WAS 2367 03:15:06,711 --> 03:15:10,480 OPEN WITHIN TWO DAYS OF THE LAST STORM. 2368 03:15:10,480 --> 03:15:13,518 AND THAT'S DUE TO GREAT DESIGN BUT ALSO DUE TO A FANTASTIC TEAM 2369 03:15:13,518 --> 03:15:16,354 OUT THERE WORKING BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THE BAY PARK HAD TO BE 2370 03:15:16,354 --> 03:15:17,856 A PLACE OF RESPITE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 2371 03:15:17,856 --> 03:15:21,580 A LOT OF CITY PARKS WERE NOT ABLE TO OPEN FOR MANY, MANY 2372 03:15:21,580 --> 03:15:23,261 WEEKS, SO WE WERE HAPPY TO BE THE PLACE WHERE OUR COMMUNITY 2373 03:15:23,261 --> 03:15:27,931 COULD GO. THE LESSON WAS THAT IT WAS THE 2374 03:15:27,931 --> 03:15:30,668 STORY OF ONE SITE WITH TWO OUTCOMES. 2375 03:15:30,668 --> 03:15:33,837 BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TOTALLY DONE THE ENTIRE SITE YET, WE COULD 2376 03:15:33,837 --> 03:15:36,607 SEE SIDE BY SIDE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PLAN FOR RESILIENCY 2377 03:15:36,607 --> 03:15:38,876 VERSUS WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN FOR 2378 03:15:38,876 --> 03:15:40,878 RESILIENCY. ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, YOU'LL 2379 03:15:40,878 --> 03:15:44,349 SEE THE DAMAGE FROM THE STORM AND THERE WAS DAMAGE, BUT IT WAS 2380 03:15:44,349 --> 03:15:46,351 INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED FOR RESILIENCE. 2381 03:15:46,351 --> 03:15:48,620 THINGS WERE NOT DESTROYED. THING WERE NOT TORN APART. 2382 03:15:48,620 --> 03:15:52,323 IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, WHICH I WOULD SAY IS 200 2383 03:15:52,323 --> 03:15:55,159 YARDS NORTH OF THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT, YOU CAN SEE AN AREA 2384 03:15:55,159 --> 03:15:59,630 NOT DESIGNED FOR RESILIENCE. THIS TAUGHT US THAT WE CAN -- 2385 03:15:59,630 --> 03:16:02,499 AND NEED TO DOUBLE DOWN ON OUR FOCUS ON RESILIENCY, WHICH IS 2386 03:16:02,499 --> 03:16:06,370 WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN PHASE TWO AND HOPE TO DO IN PHASE THREE. 2387 03:16:06,370 --> 03:16:10,410 AG. >> IF YOU THINK BACK TO THE 2388 03:16:10,410 --> 03:16:14,841 BLACK-AND-WHITE PHOTO THAT WE SHOWED EARLIER, THIS PICTURE 2389 03:16:16,247 --> 03:16:20,985 PROBABLY MAKES SENSE. THE SITE IS A CHALLENGING ONE. 2390 03:16:20,985 --> 03:16:25,256 WITH SIX FEET OF STORM SURGE, EVERYTHING BLUE WOULD BE 2391 03:16:25,256 --> 03:16:28,193 UNDERWATER. OBVIOUSLY, THE SAFEST PART OF 2392 03:16:28,193 --> 03:16:34,793 THE SITE IS UP AGAINST NORTH TAMIAMI TRAIL TO THE EAST. 2393 03:16:34,865 --> 03:16:37,702 FORTUNATELY, VAN WEZEL PERFORMING ART HALL IS A BIT 2394 03:16:37,702 --> 03:16:41,638 ABOVE SIX, BUT THAT DIDN'T PROTECT US FROM HELENE AND FROM 2395 03:16:41,638 --> 03:16:47,545 MILTON, BECAUSE THE STORM SURGE AND WAVE ACTION WAS AT 8.5 FEET. 2396 03:16:47,545 --> 03:16:50,280 THIS REMINDED ME THAT FROM THE BEGINNING, FROM THE TIME WE DID 2397 03:16:50,280 --> 03:16:54,419 THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN, WE LOOKED AT THE EXISTING 2398 03:16:54,419 --> 03:16:59,356 ELEVATIONS, WHICH ARE IN PA LEN THEY SEES -- PARENTHESES AND 2399 03:16:59,356 --> 03:17:01,626 PLAN FOR MORE RESILIENCY BY BUILDING ELEVATION WHEREVER WE 2400 03:17:01,626 --> 03:17:05,297 COULD. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CENTER OF THE 2401 03:17:05,297 --> 03:17:08,832 PARK, WHERE THE CURRENT ELEVATION AND THE PARKING LOT 2402 03:17:08,832 --> 03:17:14,838 ADJACENT TO THE VAN WEZEL IS SIX FEET ABOVE BAY LEVEL, WE PLANNED 2403 03:17:14,838 --> 03:17:18,438 FOR 18. THIS IS OUR PLAN TODAY. 2404 03:17:18,530 --> 03:17:23,930 ELEVATION MATTERS. IT IS THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE 2405 03:17:25,337 --> 03:17:26,203 AGAINST STORM SURGE, SEA LEVEL RISE. 2406 03:17:26,203 --> 03:17:29,730 LET ME TAKE YOU THROUGH THE PHASE TWO UPDATE. 2407 03:17:29,730 --> 03:17:30,608 I DON'T KNOW. HAVE ANY OF YOU BEEN OVER TO THE 2408 03:17:30,608 --> 03:17:35,246 PARK IN THE LAST FEW DAYS? WE ACTUALLY OPENED THE PROMENADE 2409 03:17:35,246 --> 03:17:37,349 AND THE CULTURAL DISTRICT ON THE FRONT SIDE. 2410 03:17:37,349 --> 03:17:40,885 PHASE TWO HAD -- HAS FOUR ACTIVE PROJECTS. 2411 03:17:40,885 --> 03:17:43,622 THEY ARE ALL DESIGNED TO IMPROVE RESILIENCE. 2412 03:17:43,622 --> 03:17:48,226 THEY ALL IMPROVE STORMWATER AND WATER QUALITY AND THEY ADD 2413 03:17:48,226 --> 03:17:51,826 ADDITIONAL GREENSPACE. THE RESILIENT SHORELINE IS 2414 03:17:53,131 --> 03:17:56,267 OUTLINED ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, ALONG SARASOTA BAY, TWO PIECES, 2415 03:17:56,267 --> 03:17:59,971 ONE PIECE SOUTH OF THE BOAT BASIN, ONE PIECE TO THE NORTH. 2416 03:17:59,971 --> 03:18:04,709 THE CANAL DISTRICT OR BOAT BASIN DISTRICT IS THE REPAIR OF THE 2417 03:18:04,709 --> 03:18:07,979 SEAWALL ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THE ADDITION OF NEW FLOATING DAY 2418 03:18:07,979 --> 03:18:12,317 DOCKS AFTER WE DREDGED THE BOAT BASIN AS WE DID THE BAYOU. 2419 03:18:12,317 --> 03:18:14,986 THE CULTURAL DISTRICT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PARK. 2420 03:18:14,986 --> 03:18:18,189 OUR NEW FRONT DOOR TO THE PARK. THAT PROMENADE IS OPEN AND HAS 2421 03:18:18,189 --> 03:18:23,261 BEEN OPEN FOR THE PAST WEEK. THE CHIDSEY IS ABOUT TO OPEN. 2422 03:18:23,261 --> 03:18:29,861 IF YOU COME TO THE RIBBON CUTTING AND CELEBRATION OF THE 2423 03:18:30,868 --> 03:18:35,406 STATE OF THE PARK, WE'LL HAVE A TOUR OF THE CHIDSEY AND RIBBON 2424 03:18:35,406 --> 03:18:39,611 CUTTING FOR THE PROMENADE. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, AND THIS IS 2425 03:18:39,611 --> 03:18:43,811 IMPORTANT, JUST AS WE REHABILITATE, RENOVATE, AND 2426 03:18:44,949 --> 03:18:49,870 REPURPOSE THE PARK, WE'RE DOING THE SAME WITH ARCHITECTURALLY 2427 03:18:49,870 --> 03:18:51,556 AND HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT BUILDINGS THAT WERE ENTRUSTED TO 2428 03:18:51,556 --> 03:18:59,956 US AS PART OF THE PARK. SO FAR, KNOCK ON WOOD, TWO AND A 2429 03:19:00,298 --> 03:19:04,103 HALF YEARS IN WE'RE STILL ON PLAN, STILL ON BUDGET, AND WE'RE 2430 03:19:04,103 --> 03:19:09,641 STILL ON SCHEDULE. WE TAKE A GREAT DEAL OF PRIDE IN 2431 03:19:09,641 --> 03:19:12,243 THE ON-BUDGET PIECE DESPITE THESE PROJECTS BEING APPROVED IN 2432 03:19:12,243 --> 03:19:17,282 THE FALL OF '22, WE'RE THREE YEARS LATER, WE HAVEN'T YIELDED 2433 03:19:17,282 --> 03:19:21,453 TO ESCALATION OR INFLATION. WE FIND WAYS TO MANAGE SCOPE. 2434 03:19:21,453 --> 03:19:26,323 WE FIND WAYS TO MANAGE PLAN, WE FIND WAYS TO VALUE ENGINEER SO 2435 03:19:26,323 --> 03:19:31,329 WE CAN DELIVER EVERYTHING THAT WE COMMIT TO AT A VERY GOOD 2436 03:19:31,329 --> 03:19:34,990 VALUE. THESE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN VERY 2437 03:19:34,990 --> 03:19:37,135 RECENTLY. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN TO THE 2438 03:19:37,135 --> 03:19:41,390 BOAT BASIN, THE NEW SEAWALL IS MOSTLY DONE ON THE LEFT AND THE 2439 03:19:41,390 --> 03:19:45,410 FLOATING DAY DOCKS ARE IN PLACE. AND THEY WILL BE OPEN IN 2440 03:19:45,410 --> 03:19:48,790 NOVEMBER. I MENTIONED THE PROMENADE. 2441 03:19:48,790 --> 03:19:52,500 THIS IS THE NEW PROMENADE. IT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND FEET 2442 03:19:52,500 --> 03:19:55,953 STRETCHING FROM NORTH OF THE MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM SOUTH PAST 2443 03:19:55,953 --> 03:20:02,161 THE BLUE PAGODA TO THE CORNER OF BOULEVARD OF THE ARTS AND NORTH 2444 03:20:02,161 --> 03:20:06,361 TAMIAMI TRAIL. THIS IS AN ARTIST REPRESENTATION 2445 03:20:07,632 --> 03:20:10,235 OF THE SECOND PHASE OF THE CULTURAL DISTRICT, SO WE'RE 2446 03:20:10,235 --> 03:20:13,572 GOING TO DO A TOWN SQUARE BETWEEN THE MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM 2447 03:20:13,572 --> 03:20:19,978 AND THE ARTS CENTER, HOLLEY HALL ON THE WEST SIDE AND A 2448 03:20:19,978 --> 03:20:23,648 CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING PARK THAT WILL BEGIN NEXT SPRING AND 2449 03:20:23,648 --> 03:20:30,248 BE COMPLETED NEXT FALL. AS PART OF THAT, WE WILL HAVE 2450 03:20:31,220 --> 03:20:34,392 COMPLETED THE GARDEN CLUB ON THE RIGHT. 2451 03:20:34,392 --> 03:20:37,595 WE'LL BE WORKING ON THE BLUE PAGODA AND HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME 2452 03:20:37,595 --> 03:20:40,732 MINOR RENOVATIONS THERE. YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT THE 2453 03:20:40,732 --> 03:20:42,934 RESTROOMS WILL BE UPGRADED TO PARK STANDARDS. 2454 03:20:42,934 --> 03:20:47,338 WE'RE DOING THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY CENTER RIGHT NOW ON 2455 03:20:47,338 --> 03:20:49,941 THE WEST SIDE OF THE MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM AND THEN WE'LL TURN 2456 03:20:49,941 --> 03:20:53,611 OUR ATTENTION TO THE REST OF THAT BUILDING. 2457 03:20:53,611 --> 03:20:59,160 THIS IS AN ARTIST REPRESENTATION OF THE RESILIENT SHORELINE WHICH 2458 03:20:59,160 --> 03:21:01,619 THE CITY WILL BE BIDDING THIS PROJECT BEFORE THE END OF THE 2459 03:21:01,619 --> 03:21:04,155 YEAR. IT SHOULD BE IN CONSTRUCTION 2460 03:21:04,155 --> 03:21:08,760 NEXT YEAR AND WE HOPE TO HAVE IT COMPLETED BY THE END OF NEXT 2461 03:21:08,760 --> 03:21:11,228 CALENDAR. TURNING TO PHASE THREE, WHILE WE 2462 03:21:11,228 --> 03:21:17,302 CONSTRUCT PHASE TWO, WE'VE BEGUN THE DESIGN AND PLANNING OF THE 2463 03:21:17,302 --> 03:21:22,102 NEXT PHASE. WE WORK FROM AN EVOLVING AND 2464 03:21:23,241 --> 03:21:26,244 WORKING MASTER PLAN. AS JENNY SAID EARLIER, WE START 2465 03:21:26,244 --> 03:21:29,714 WITH THE LAND AND THE WATER. WE PLAN FOR RESILIENCY. 2466 03:21:29,714 --> 03:21:33,985 WE PLAN FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND WATER QUALITY, 2467 03:21:33,985 --> 03:21:38,289 AND THEN AND ONLY THEN BASED ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND FEEDBACK 2468 03:21:38,289 --> 03:21:42,994 FROM CURRENT SITE USERS, WE BEGIN TO LAY IN THE DESIGN AND 2469 03:21:42,994 --> 03:21:46,640 PLAN FOR THE ACTUAL USE OF NEW PARK SPACE. 2470 03:21:46,640 --> 03:21:50,134 WE ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE EVOLVING NEEDS OF VAN WEZEL 2471 03:21:50,134 --> 03:21:53,905 PERFORMING ARTS HALL AND THE FUTURE SARASOTA PERFORMING ARTS 2472 03:21:53,905 --> 03:21:58,105 CENTER. WE WORK CLOSELY WITH BOTH OF 2473 03:22:01,946 --> 03:22:05,350 THOSE TEAMS. PHASE 3A, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT 2474 03:22:05,350 --> 03:22:07,618 FIRST IS ESSENTIALLY CENTENNIAL PARK. 2475 03:22:07,618 --> 03:22:11,218 CENTENNIAL PARK IS THE NORTHERNMOST 11 ACRES. 2476 03:22:11,223 --> 03:22:14,759 IT IS A PARK MANAGED BY THE CITY. 2477 03:22:14,759 --> 03:22:17,562 IT IS THE ONLY PARK I BELIEVE OR ONE OF THE ONLY PARKS I BELIEVE 2478 03:22:17,562 --> 03:22:22,367 IN THE CITY THAT IS OPEN 24 HOURS A DAY, 7 DAYS A WEEK TO 2479 03:22:22,367 --> 03:22:25,371 ACCOMMODATE THE BOATING AND FISHING COMMUNITIES. 2480 03:22:25,371 --> 03:22:30,975 AS YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE, WE FOCUS ON ALL OF THE KEY 2481 03:22:30,975 --> 03:22:33,345 COMPONENTS AS WE DO THAT IMPROVEMENT. 2482 03:22:33,345 --> 03:22:39,451 PHASE 3B IS THE CENTER OF THE PARK, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO 2483 03:22:39,451 --> 03:22:43,388 DESIGN AND PLAN FOR THAT CENTER. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE, 2484 03:22:43,388 --> 03:22:49,388 OBVIOUSLY, OF THE TOTAL PARK. THE RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS TO 2485 03:22:51,129 --> 03:22:55,329 INVEST $20 MILLION, $16 MILLION FOR DESIGN, DEVELOPMENT, AND 2486 03:22:55,367 --> 03:23:00,167 CONSTRUCTION OF CENTENNIAL PARK IMPROVEMENTS, AND $4 MILLION TO 2487 03:23:02,473 --> 03:23:06,744 CONTINUE DESIGN AND PLANNING OF THE CENTER OF THE PARK. 2488 03:23:06,744 --> 03:23:08,613 WE, OF COURSE, CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY. 2489 03:23:08,613 --> 03:23:11,282 WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH THE BOATING COMMUNITY. 2490 03:23:11,282 --> 03:23:15,686 I WON'T BORE YOU WITH ALL THE DETAILS, BUT THERE IS NOT ONE 2491 03:23:15,686 --> 03:23:18,222 BOATING COMMUNITY. IF YOU CHATTED WITH THEM, 2492 03:23:18,222 --> 03:23:20,892 THERE'S NOT ONE RECREATIONAL BOATING COMMUNITY AND NOT ONE 2493 03:23:20,892 --> 03:23:24,194 COMMERCIAL BOATING COMMUNITY. SO YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO ALL THE 2494 03:23:24,194 --> 03:23:29,220 GROUPS AND SOMETIMES ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS TO UNDERSTAND THE 2495 03:23:29,220 --> 03:23:30,789 NEEDS. WE ALSO CONTINUOUSLY TALK TO 2496 03:23:30,789 --> 03:23:33,458 SITE AND PARK USERS. WE MEET WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND 2497 03:23:33,458 --> 03:23:35,593 NEIGHBORHOOD WORKING GROUP, OUR CITY PARTNERS. 2498 03:23:35,593 --> 03:23:39,664 AND WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON RESILIENCY, STORMWATER, AND 2499 03:23:39,664 --> 03:23:42,834 WATER QUALITY WITH EXPERTS IN THOSE AREAS. 2500 03:23:42,834 --> 03:23:46,434 SO WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT PHASE 3A? 2501 03:23:46,805 --> 03:23:49,274 CENTENNIAL PARK. IT'S WHAT WE LEFT OUT. 2502 03:23:49,274 --> 03:23:52,810 WE LEFT OUT THE FUTURE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. 2503 03:23:52,810 --> 03:23:57,480 WE MOVED TO PLANNED RESTAURANTS FROM NORTH OF THE BOAT BASIN TO 2504 03:23:57,480 --> 03:24:00,840 SOUTH, TO THE CENTER OF THE PARK. 2505 03:24:00,840 --> 03:24:03,870 WE TOOK AWAY P THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE BECAUSE WITHOUT THE 2506 03:24:03,870 --> 03:24:06,524 RESTAURANTS IT WAS A BRIDGE TO NOWHERE. 2507 03:24:06,524 --> 03:24:10,940 WE TOOK OUT THE OVERLOOK BY THE MOUTH OF HOG CREEK. 2508 03:24:10,940 --> 03:24:14,165 WE TOOK OUT ALL THE OVERLOOKS BECAUSE THEY GOT SMASHED AND 2509 03:24:14,165 --> 03:24:18,360 TRASHED BY STORM SURGE AND WE FOCUSED ON THE ESSENTIALS. 2510 03:24:18,360 --> 03:24:22,374 FIRST SET OF ESSENTIALS, EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TO DO TO 2511 03:24:22,374 --> 03:24:24,976 IMPROVE RESILIENCY, RESTORE AS MUCH OF THE GREEN AND BLUE 2512 03:24:24,976 --> 03:24:29,470 ENVIRONMENT AS WE POSSIBLY COULD, INSTALL ALL THE 2513 03:24:29,470 --> 03:24:32,617 STORMWATER WE NEEDED TO TREAT EVERY DROP OF WATER THAT COMES 2514 03:24:32,617 --> 03:24:34,986 THROUGH THE 11 ACRES OF THE SITE. 2515 03:24:34,986 --> 03:24:38,189 THE NEXT PIECE WAS TO DRAMATICALLY IMPROVE THE 2516 03:24:38,189 --> 03:24:40,392 INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE EXPERIENCE FOR THE BOATING 2517 03:24:40,392 --> 03:24:44,929 COMMUNITY, WHO ARE THE PRINCIPAL USERS OF THE PARK. 2518 03:24:44,929 --> 03:24:47,799 SO WE'LL REHABILITATE THE NORTH AND EAST SEAWALLS JUST AS WE DID 2519 03:24:47,799 --> 03:24:51,936 THE SOUTH SEAWALL. WE'LL INCREASE THE BOAT LAUNCH 2520 03:24:51,936 --> 03:24:56,874 CAPACITY, ADD A LAUNCH LANE, ADD TWO LANES, AN ADDITIONAL LAUNCH 2521 03:24:56,874 --> 03:24:59,874 BAY. INCREASE BOAT TRAILER PARKING 2522 03:25:00,378 --> 03:25:03,978 CAPACITY BY 50%. REHABILITATE THE RESTROOMS TO 2523 03:25:04,482 --> 03:25:07,485 PARK STANDARDS, AND INSTALL FLOATING DAY DOCKS TO THE EAST 2524 03:25:07,485 --> 03:25:12,757 TO GO WITH THE FIXED STAGE DAY DOCKS WHICH THE CITY JUST 2525 03:25:12,757 --> 03:25:16,357 REPAIRED AND IMPROVED TO THE WEST. 2526 03:25:17,495 --> 03:25:25,295 PHASE 3B, PHASE 3B IS ALSO BUILT ON THIS KIND OF LAYER CAKE 2527 03:25:25,370 --> 03:25:27,573 STANDARD. WE STARTED WITH RESILIENCE. 2528 03:25:27,573 --> 03:25:33,110 SO WE WILL BUILD TO TEN FEET ABOVE BAY LEVEL ON THE EAST EDGE 2529 03:25:33,110 --> 03:25:38,350 OF THE RESILIENT SHORELINE, TO 20 FEET ABOVE BAY LEVEL IN THE 2530 03:25:38,350 --> 03:25:40,985 CENTER OF THE PARK. WE WILL INSTALL BELOW GROUND, AT 2531 03:25:40,985 --> 03:25:45,657 GROUND AND ABOVEGROUND ALL THE ELEMENTS WE NEED NATURAL AND 2532 03:25:45,657 --> 03:25:48,960 ENGINEERED FOR STORMWATER TREATMENT AND BEGIN TO TREAT ALL 2533 03:25:48,960 --> 03:25:51,395 THE POLLUTED STORMWATER AND RUNOFF THAT GOES THROUGH THE 2534 03:25:51,395 --> 03:25:57,395 CENTER OF THE SITE. WE WILL INSTALL BUILD DESIGN AND 2535 03:25:57,869 --> 03:26:01,873 BUILD A PLAY AREA, WATER FEATURES, NEW RESTAURANTS, AND, 2536 03:26:01,873 --> 03:26:07,144 MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE'LL PUT IN A REAL GARAGE THAT WILL CONSIST OF 2537 03:26:07,144 --> 03:26:10,982 GARAGE ON THE VAN WEZEL AND PARKING UNDER PARK IN THE CENTER 2538 03:26:10,982 --> 03:26:16,870 OF THE PARK. I JUST -- WE PUT THIS SLIDE IN 2539 03:26:16,870 --> 03:26:21,260 FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF HOW WE WORK FROM 2540 03:26:21,260 --> 03:26:25,563 BAY LEVEL TO THE RESILIENT SHORELINE AT 9.5 FEET TO THE 2541 03:26:25,563 --> 03:26:30,367 PARK RESTAURANTS AT 22 FEET TO THE TOP OF THE PARKING LEVEL AT 2542 03:26:30,367 --> 03:26:32,437 29 FEET. THE MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM IS AT 2543 03:26:32,437 --> 03:26:36,574 55 FEET. A FEW QUICK VIEWS OF WHAT THE 2544 03:26:36,574 --> 03:26:40,712 CENTER OF THE PARK MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 2545 03:26:40,712 --> 03:26:45,116 THERE WILL BE PLAY AREAS, SUGGESTIONS ON THE RIGHT. 2546 03:26:45,116 --> 03:26:49,754 THE PARK WILL TERRACE UP FROM SARASOTA BAY, SO THE PLAY AREAS 2547 03:26:49,754 --> 03:26:54,580 CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TERRACING AND THE PLAY SCAPE AS 2548 03:26:54,580 --> 03:26:56,927 CAN THE WATER FEATURES. AND THESE ARE JUST SOME 2549 03:26:56,927 --> 03:26:58,963 EXAMPLES. YOU TURN STORMWATER TREATMENT 2550 03:26:58,963 --> 03:27:05,336 INTO PLAY, IT IS A TWOFER. FUNDING, I'M GOING TO TURN TO 2551 03:27:05,336 --> 03:27:10,136 CITY MANAGER BULLOCK FOR THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATION ON 2552 03:27:10,208 --> 03:27:14,946 FUNDING, WHICH WE CONCUR WITH. >>Dave Bullock: AG, YOU SAID YOU 2553 03:27:14,946 --> 03:27:16,414 WERE GOING TO FUND THE ENTIRE THING. 2554 03:27:16,414 --> 03:27:18,783 >> I DID. BUT, DAVE, THAT WAS FRIDAY. 2555 03:27:18,783 --> 03:27:21,183 [ LAUGHTER ] TODAY IS MONDAY. 2556 03:27:21,686 --> 03:27:24,622 >>Dave Bullock: WHAT THE BAY PARK HAS ASKED FOR AND WHAT WAS 2557 03:27:24,622 --> 03:27:28,159 PRESENTED AT THE BAY PARK IMPROVEMENT BOARD WAS 2558 03:27:28,159 --> 03:27:33,559 ESSENTIALLY IN TOTAL A $20 MILLION REQUEST WITH REALLY A 2559 03:27:34,899 --> 03:27:41,105 MILLION DOLLAR NEED IN THE NEXT, LET'S SAY, FIVE TO SIX MONTHS. 2560 03:27:41,105 --> 03:27:47,105 SO IN CONSULTATION WITH THE COUNTY STAFF, IF THE COUNTY 2561 03:27:47,646 --> 03:27:51,583 COMMISSION AGREES WITH THAT REQUEST, WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN 2562 03:27:51,583 --> 03:27:56,955 OUR, LET'S CALL IT, OUR JOINT CHECKING ACCOUNT, THAT WE COULD 2563 03:27:56,955 --> 03:28:01,590 ACCOMMODATE THE MILLION DOLLARS AND AG CAN INVOICE AGAINST THAT. 2564 03:28:01,590 --> 03:28:03,828 FOR THE BALANCE OF IT, WE WOULD NEED TO DO FINANCING. 2565 03:28:03,828 --> 03:28:11,200 THE OTHER REASON WHY WE REALLY -- WHY AT LEAST I WANT TO JUST 2566 03:28:11,200 --> 03:28:15,774 LET A FEW MONTHS GO BY, THERE'S SOME PRETTY COMPLEX PERMITTING 2567 03:28:15,774 --> 03:28:18,676 THAT HAS TO TAKE PLACE FOR SOME OF THIS. 2568 03:28:18,676 --> 03:28:21,813 AND PROBABLY THE POTENTIAL FOR DELAY IS MORE IN PERMITTING THAN 2569 03:28:21,813 --> 03:28:25,216 IT WILL BE IN CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S OFTEN THE CASE. 2570 03:28:25,216 --> 03:28:28,820 IT TAKES LONGER TO DESIGN AND PERMIT AN IMPROVEMENT THAN IT 2571 03:28:28,820 --> 03:28:32,156 DOES TO BUILD IT. THAT WILL GIVE US -- WE'LL GET A 2572 03:28:32,156 --> 03:28:35,293 BEAT ON WHEN WE CAN REASONABLY EXPECT THE PERMITTING TO COME IN 2573 03:28:35,293 --> 03:28:38,195 BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO FINANCE TOO EARLY AND THEN GET A YEAR 2574 03:28:38,195 --> 03:28:41,332 AND A HALF DELAY ON PERMITTING AND RUN INTO SPEND-DOWN 2575 03:28:41,332 --> 03:28:46,437 REQUIREMENTS. WE THINK WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THE 2576 03:28:46,437 --> 03:28:48,840 MILLION DOLLARS IF THE COMMISSION CONCURS. 2577 03:28:48,840 --> 03:28:54,244 THIS IS ALL CONTINGENT ON THE COUNTY ALSO APPROVING THE SAME 2578 03:28:54,244 --> 03:28:55,846 PLAN. AND THEN BEYOND THAT WE WOULD 2579 03:28:55,846 --> 03:28:59,446 LOOK TO ISSUE DEBT SOMETIME IN 2026. 2580 03:29:01,985 --> 03:29:05,389 WHICH WOULD CARRY THE PROJECT THROUGH THIS PHASE WHICH TOTALS, 2581 03:29:05,389 --> 03:29:09,927 IN TOTAL, $20 MILLION. >> THE ONE MILLION IS SIMPLY 2582 03:29:09,927 --> 03:29:15,660 DESIGN AND PLANNING MONEY FOR THE NEXT THREE TO SIX MONTHS. 2583 03:29:15,660 --> 03:29:20,400 THE PERMITTING THAT CITY MANAGER REFERRED TO, TWO PRINCIPAL 2584 03:29:20,400 --> 03:29:24,209 PERMITS, U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND S.W.F.W.M.D. 2585 03:29:24,209 --> 03:29:29,547 WE BELIEVE WE CAN HAVE 60% PLANS DONE FOR CENTENNIAL PARK PROJECT 2586 03:29:29,547 --> 03:29:34,419 BY, SAY, THE END OF JANUARY. WE'RE BEING TOLD BECAUSE IT'S 2587 03:29:34,419 --> 03:29:38,703 REPAIRS TO THE SEAWALL THAT THE U.S. ARMY CORPS PERMITS COULD 2588 03:29:38,703 --> 03:29:41,707 COME AS QUICKLY AS FOUR TO SIX MONTHS, BUT WE'VE COMMITTED TO 2589 03:29:41,707 --> 03:29:48,307 THE CITY THAT WE'LL GIVE THEM A DETAILED TIMELINE OF PLANNING, 2590 03:29:48,714 --> 03:29:52,914 PERMITTING, START OF CONSTRUCTION, AND CITY MANAGER 2591 03:29:53,119 --> 03:29:55,589 IS RIGHT. LION'S SHARE OF THE CONSTRUCTION 2592 03:29:55,589 --> 03:30:00,392 WOULD OCCUR IN THE SECOND HALF OR LAST QUARTER OF 2026 AND 2593 03:30:00,392 --> 03:30:02,261 2027. WE DON'T WANT TO BOND, WE DON'T 2594 03:30:02,261 --> 03:30:04,396 WANT TO FINANCE TOO EARLY, BORROW THE MONEY BEFORE WE NEED 2595 03:30:04,396 --> 03:30:08,596 IT. IN CLOSING, AS WE MOVE FORWARD 2596 03:30:09,869 --> 03:30:14,740 AND WORK EVEN CLOSER WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE CITY, NIK WAS UP 2597 03:30:14,740 --> 03:30:18,770 HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF JERRY WAS HERE TODAY, BUT WE WORK CLOSELY 2598 03:30:18,770 --> 03:30:22,480 WITH PARKS AND REC. JENNIFER JORGENSEN AND HER TEAM 2599 03:30:22,480 --> 03:30:25,818 IN PURCHASING, BUT THESE ARE THE CONSIDERATIONS WE'RE PAYING A 2600 03:30:25,818 --> 03:30:29,488 LOT OF ATTENTION TO IN THE WEEKS AND MONTHS AHEAD AS WE PLAN AND 2601 03:30:29,488 --> 03:30:31,490 WORK TOGETHER. BECAUSE AS WE MOVE INTO THE 2602 03:30:31,490 --> 03:30:35,227 MIDDLE OF THE PARK, WE'LL HAVE TO COORDINATE AND COLLABORATE AT 2603 03:30:35,227 --> 03:30:39,365 EVEN HIGHER LEVELS THAN WE HAVE SO FAR. 2604 03:30:39,365 --> 03:30:44,503 FIRST AND FOREMOST IS HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DELIVER ON THE 2605 03:30:44,503 --> 03:30:48,173 RESILIENCY STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND WATER QUALITY THAT SERVES 2606 03:30:48,173 --> 03:30:52,444 THE ENTIRE PARK. SECOND IS, YOU SAW IN THE USE, 2607 03:30:52,444 --> 03:30:57,517 THIS IS A SURPRISING PARK OF 50 ACRES FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT 2608 03:30:57,517 --> 03:30:58,917 USES AND THE COMBINATION OF USES. 2609 03:30:58,917 --> 03:31:01,453 IF YOU LOOK ACROSS AMERICA, THERE AREN'T MANY PARKS THAT 2610 03:31:01,453 --> 03:31:05,391 HAVE A PUBLIC BOAT LAUNCH, HAVE A GARDEN CLUB, HAVE AN ART 2611 03:31:05,391 --> 03:31:08,727 CENTER, HAVE A MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM HOLLEY HALL, VAN 2612 03:31:08,727 --> 03:31:12,731 WEZEL AND ARE CONTEMPLATING A NEW PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. 2613 03:31:12,731 --> 03:31:15,735 SO IT ALL FITS, BUT WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT 2614 03:31:15,735 --> 03:31:20,539 IT FITS WELL, IT FITS IN A RESILIENT WAY AND FITS IN A WAY 2615 03:31:20,539 --> 03:31:24,739 THAT WORKS FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT USERS. 2616 03:31:26,144 --> 03:31:32,840 SO ASSUMING WE GET AN APPROVAL WITH THE COUNTY TOMORROW, I'LL 2617 03:31:32,840 --> 03:31:35,487 BE MEETING WITH TONYA AND HER TEAM ON WEDNESDAY TO BEGIN TO 2618 03:31:35,487 --> 03:31:38,757 TALK ABOUT THIS. HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER AND 2619 03:31:38,757 --> 03:31:42,361 AGAIN, CITY MANAGER BULLOCK JUST ENCOURAGED US TO TAKE OUR LEVELS 2620 03:31:42,361 --> 03:31:47,161 OF COMMUNICATION, COLLABORATION, AND COORDINATION TO EVEN HIGHER 2621 03:31:47,266 --> 03:31:48,835 LEVELS AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO DO THAT. 2622 03:31:48,835 --> 03:31:53,635 THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. 2623 03:31:54,640 --> 03:31:58,440 I'LL GET IN TROUBLE IF I DON'T SHOW THE LAST SLIDE. 2624 03:31:58,440 --> 03:32:01,379 THIS FRIDAY IS THE STATE OF THE PARK EVENT. 2625 03:32:01,379 --> 03:32:06,619 I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE COMING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING 2626 03:32:06,619 --> 03:32:09,321 AND PARTICIPATING. THERE'S STILL TIME TO COME TO 2627 03:32:09,321 --> 03:32:11,190 TASTE OF THE BAY THIS WEEKEND ON SUNDAY. 2628 03:32:11,190 --> 03:32:14,860 AND THEN WE CLOSE STRONG WITH TWO DAYS OF MUSIC ON NOVEMBER 2629 03:32:14,860 --> 03:32:18,460 THE 1st AND NOVEMBER THE 2nd. 2630 03:32:18,931 --> 03:32:21,200 THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT. >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. 2631 03:32:21,200 --> 03:32:25,204 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP 2632 03:32:25,204 --> 03:32:28,874 TO SPEAK, I TAKE IT. COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? 2633 03:32:28,874 --> 03:32:31,411 COMMISSIONER OHLRICH. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: THANK 2634 03:32:31,411 --> 03:32:35,611 YOU. I HAVE A FEW DETAILED QUESTIONS 2635 03:32:37,216 --> 03:32:42,321 BUT THEN A COUPLE OF BIG-PICTURE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MONEY. 2636 03:32:42,321 --> 03:32:44,890 YOU SAID THERE WERE FOUR BUILDINGS ON THE NATIONAL 2637 03:32:44,890 --> 03:32:49,690 REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. WHO MADE THOSE APPLICATIONS? 2638 03:32:50,830 --> 03:32:55,835 >> OH, MY GOODNESS, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND PULL THEM UP 2639 03:32:55,835 --> 03:32:57,870 INDIVIDUALLY. SEVERAL WERE MADE BY THE CITY. 2640 03:32:57,870 --> 03:33:03,242 THEY HAVE BEEN ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER FOR DECADES. 2641 03:33:03,242 --> 03:33:06,245 I BELIEVE THE FIRST ONE THAT WENT ON WAS THE MUNICIPAL 2642 03:33:06,245 --> 03:33:07,846 AUDITORIUM. AND THEN INDEPENDENTLY -- 2643 03:33:07,846 --> 03:33:09,448 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: IT WASN'T PART OF THIS PROJECT. 2644 03:33:09,448 --> 03:33:11,717 >> NO, IT WASN'T PART OF THIS EFFORT. 2645 03:33:11,717 --> 03:33:16,122 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I APPRECIATE, I WAS GOING TO SAY 2646 03:33:16,122 --> 03:33:19,991 RESPECTFUL DISCUSSIONS YOU'VE HAD WITH THE 40 TO 60,000 2647 03:33:19,991 --> 03:33:24,191 BOATERS. I IMAGINE THAT IT WAS -- 2648 03:33:24,998 --> 03:33:29,535 >> NOT SURE WE SAW ALL 40,000 BUT WE SAW A REPRESENTATIVE 2649 03:33:29,535 --> 03:33:33,135 GROUP. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: WHAT IS 2650 03:33:34,140 --> 03:33:38,940 A STORMWATER TREATMENT TRAIN. >> A STORMWATER TREATMENT TRAIN 2651 03:33:39,144 --> 03:33:43,944 IS THE COMBINATION OF UNDERGROUND CATCHMENTS, SO THINK 2652 03:33:45,617 --> 03:33:48,755 OF ENGINEERED PIECES AND PARTS, IN THE CURRENT PARK. 2653 03:33:48,755 --> 03:33:53,125 WE HAVE BAFFLE BOXES, BEGINNING OF THE TRAIN. 2654 03:33:53,125 --> 03:33:57,630 WE HAVE DENITRIFICATION TRENCHES UNDER THE WALKWAYS. 2655 03:33:57,630 --> 03:34:00,499 WE HAVE CATCHMENT AREAS WHICH CAPTURE WATER THAT'S RUNNING 2656 03:34:00,499 --> 03:34:05,171 FROM EAST TO WEST. ALL THE WATER COMES FROM THE 2657 03:34:05,171 --> 03:34:09,441 EAST, HIGHER GROUND, AND HEADS TO THE WEST, EXCEPT FOR STORM 2658 03:34:09,441 --> 03:34:12,441 SURGES. BUT THE NORMAL RUNOFF. 2659 03:34:13,212 --> 03:34:18,584 YOU WANT TO DO AS MUCH REMOVAL OF THE PHOSPHOROUS AND NITROGEN 2660 03:34:18,584 --> 03:34:23,322 AND ANY HEAVY METALS IF THEY EXIST IN THAT CATCHMENT. 2661 03:34:23,322 --> 03:34:26,991 THEN IT MOVES THROUGH SORT OF THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE 2662 03:34:26,991 --> 03:34:31,997 TRAIN, WHICH IS ALL THESE TREES, ALL THIS LANDSCAPING, ALL THESE 2663 03:34:31,997 --> 03:34:35,597 LAWNS. THEY ACTUALLY ALSO HELP FILTER 2664 03:34:36,680 --> 03:34:38,470 THE THINGS YOU DON'T WANT TO GO INTO SARASOTA BAY. 2665 03:34:38,470 --> 03:34:44,143 AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE USE DRY PONDS AND WET PONDS AND 2666 03:34:44,143 --> 03:34:49,810 THE FANCY NAME IS RAIN GARDENS, BUT THEY ARE REALLY POND AREAS 2667 03:34:49,810 --> 03:34:55,681 THAT CAPTURE WATER AND ALLOW IT TO SLOWLY FILTER THROUGH THE 2668 03:34:56,521 --> 03:34:57,890 LAST -- >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: SO A 2669 03:34:57,890 --> 03:35:00,826 VARIETY OF SOURCES HOOKED TOGETHER TO TREAT THE STORMWATER 2670 03:35:00,826 --> 03:35:04,563 BEFORE IT GOES INTO THE BAY. GOTCHA. 2671 03:35:04,563 --> 03:35:09,363 >> WE HAVE SEVERAL SHOTS AT REMOVING THE NITROGEN. 2672 03:35:09,401 --> 03:35:13,505 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: OKAY. YOU TALKED ABOUT A PARK OVER A 2673 03:35:13,505 --> 03:35:15,905 PARK. PARK OVER PARK. 2674 03:35:17,409 --> 03:35:20,112 >> PARK OVER PARKING. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: SOME 2675 03:35:20,112 --> 03:35:24,850 TIME AGO, THE CITY COMMISSION DIRECTED THE CITY MANAGER TO -- 2676 03:35:24,850 --> 03:35:29,254 AND THESE ARE MY WORDS TODAY -- TO COME BACK TO THE CITY 2677 03:35:29,254 --> 03:35:33,425 COMMISSION WITH A PARKING PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE AREA, INCLUDING 2678 03:35:33,425 --> 03:35:37,625 THE ROSEMARY DISTRICT. IS THIS THAT RETURN? 2679 03:35:40,599 --> 03:35:43,535 >> ONE PIECE IN THE PUZZLE. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: DOES 2680 03:35:43,535 --> 03:35:46,338 THAT MEAN THERE WILL BE NO OTHER PARKING REQUIRED WITHIN THE 2681 03:35:46,338 --> 03:35:48,338 ROSEMARY DISTRICT? >> NO. 2682 03:35:49,688 --> 03:35:53,359 OKAY. >>Dave Bullock: IF I MIGHT, WE 2683 03:35:53,359 --> 03:35:57,363 HAVE COMMISSIONED A PARKING ANALYSIS SPECIFICALLY FOR 2684 03:35:57,363 --> 03:36:01,701 ROSEMARY. THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO 2685 03:36:01,701 --> 03:36:04,303 TRY TO WORK WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO INCLUDE SOME 2686 03:36:04,303 --> 03:36:06,572 PARKING THERE? MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT IS 2687 03:36:06,572 --> 03:36:09,407 THE DEMAND NOW AND IN THE FUTURE? 2688 03:36:09,407 --> 03:36:13,278 SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ASCERTAIN, AND THAT SHOULD BE 2689 03:36:13,278 --> 03:36:16,381 READY, SUPPOSED TO BE READY BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. 2690 03:36:16,381 --> 03:36:19,517 NEXT WEEK OR SO. THIS IS A PIECE. 2691 03:36:19,517 --> 03:36:22,587 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: PARKING OVER PARK WILL FIT INTO THAT 2692 03:36:22,587 --> 03:36:23,389 ANALYSIS. OKAY. 2693 03:36:23,389 --> 03:36:26,989 THANK YOU. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. 2694 03:36:28,994 --> 03:36:33,198 ONE MILLION IS CONTINGENT UPON THE BOARD OF COUNTY 2695 03:36:33,198 --> 03:36:37,690 COMMISSIONERS CONCURRENCE WITH WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING HERE 2696 03:36:37,690 --> 03:36:38,403 TODAY. THAT'S TOMORROW THAT YOU'RE 2697 03:36:38,403 --> 03:36:42,474 MEETING WITH THEM. DO YOU WANT TO TALK TO US AT ALL 2698 03:36:42,474 --> 03:36:46,674 ABOUT ANY CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE HAD WITH THEM? 2699 03:36:47,346 --> 03:36:52,785 >> WELL, RECALL ON THE BAY PARK IMPROVEMENT BOARD THERE ARE TWO 2700 03:36:52,785 --> 03:36:55,621 COLLEAGUES, TWO COMMISSIONERS FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSION. 2701 03:36:55,621 --> 03:37:00,292 COMMISSION CUTSINGER AND COMMISSIONER SMITH, BOTH OF WHOM 2702 03:37:00,292 --> 03:37:03,629 VOTED FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN. 2703 03:37:03,629 --> 03:37:06,932 AND STEVE BOTELHO, THE DEPUTY COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND ALSO 2704 03:37:06,932 --> 03:37:11,732 ESSENTIALLY THE CFO, YEAH, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND 2705 03:37:11,970 --> 03:37:14,840 ESSENTIALLY THE FINANCIAL MANAGER OR CFO WITH THE COUNTY, 2706 03:37:14,840 --> 03:37:19,745 SERVES ON THE BOARD, AND HE'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROGRAM. 2707 03:37:19,745 --> 03:37:24,917 WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY 2708 03:37:24,917 --> 03:37:27,720 COMMISSIONERS, BUT AS CITY MANAGER BULLOCK SAID, ALL WE'RE 2709 03:37:27,720 --> 03:37:34,926 ASKING THEM TO DO IS TAKE ONE MILLION DOLLARS OF SIX TO SEVEN 2710 03:37:34,926 --> 03:37:38,300 MILLION DOLLARS. THEY ALREADY CODEPOSITED AS PART 2711 03:37:38,300 --> 03:37:44,630 OF THE FIRST SEVERAL YEARS OF TIF INCREMENTS INTO THE TIF 2712 03:37:44,669 --> 03:37:47,605 TRUST FUND AND INVEST ESSENTIALLY THEIR SHARE OF 2713 03:37:47,605 --> 03:37:53,345 500,000 WITH THE CITY'S SHARE OF 500,000 TO BRIDGE THE DESIGN AND 2714 03:37:53,345 --> 03:37:55,213 PLANNING. AND THEN ONCE THE FINANCING IS 2715 03:37:55,213 --> 03:37:59,418 DONE AND THE FUNDING IS DONE, THE RESPONSIBILITY, I BELIEVE, 2716 03:37:59,418 --> 03:38:02,554 CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WOULD BE THEIR SHARE OF THE DEBT 2717 03:38:02,554 --> 03:38:07,159 SERVICE. IN A WAY, IT IS A WIN-WIN FOR 2718 03:38:07,159 --> 03:38:09,940 THEM. >>Dave Bullock: PRINCIPAL AND 2719 03:38:09,940 --> 03:38:09,628 INTEREST. >> YEAH. 2720 03:38:09,628 --> 03:38:13,766 EVENTUALLY THEY HAVE TO PAY THE PRINCIPAL. 2721 03:38:13,766 --> 03:38:20,366 BUT, BUT THE TIF REVENUES BUILD IN THE 5 TO 10 TO 15 YEARS 2722 03:38:23,842 --> 03:38:26,779 AHEAD, SO THEY WILL BE PAYING THE DEBT SERVICE NOW AND FOR THE 2723 03:38:26,779 --> 03:38:30,716 NEXT FEW YEARS THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE PRINCIPAL OFF UNTIL 2724 03:38:30,716 --> 03:38:33,585 THERE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE FUNDS AVAILABLE. 2725 03:38:33,585 --> 03:38:37,990 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: GOT IT. SO AFTER THAT IS WHEN WE ISSUE 2726 03:38:37,990 --> 03:38:43,390 DEBT, RIGHT? EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT FITS WITH 2727 03:38:43,929 --> 03:38:46,932 THE TIF? THAT IS THE TIF? 2728 03:38:46,932 --> 03:38:48,333 >>Dave Bullock: YES. LET'S CLARIFY. 2729 03:38:48,333 --> 03:38:54,206 LET'S CALL IT A LITTLE PREPAYMENT WHERE IF THE COUNTY 2730 03:38:54,206 --> 03:38:57,876 COMMISSION GOES ALONG, WE MAKE ROUGHLY A MILLION DOLLARS 2731 03:38:57,876 --> 03:39:02,447 AVAILABLE FOR THE BAY PARK CONSERVANCY TO BILL AGAINST, 2732 03:39:02,447 --> 03:39:07,219 BECAUSE THEY SENT US A BILL FOR WORK AND WE PAY THAT. 2733 03:39:07,219 --> 03:39:12,424 THEN THE BIGGER CONCERN, WHICH I THINK WE WANT TO GET A CLEAR 2734 03:39:12,424 --> 03:39:18,424 INDICATION FROM THE COMMISSION TODAY IS TO FINANCE PHASE THREE, 2735 03:39:19,297 --> 03:39:23,435 IF I'M SAYING IT CORRECTLY, YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING TO IT, BUT 2736 03:39:23,435 --> 03:39:28,239 YOU'RE SAYING, YES, YOU'RE WILLING TO, WHEN IT COMES BACK 2737 03:39:28,239 --> 03:39:33,112 TO YOU, RESERVING ALL YOUR RIGHTS, YOU'RE STILL WILLING TO 2738 03:39:33,112 --> 03:39:36,915 FINANCE THE CITY'S PART OF THAT. THAT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT 2739 03:39:36,915 --> 03:39:42,520 STATEMENT FOR THE CITY TO MAKE SO THAT AG AND COUNTY STAFF CAN 2740 03:39:42,520 --> 03:39:48,460 SAY, YES, THE CITY HAS EXPRESSED ITS WILLINGNESS TO FINANCE THE 2741 03:39:48,460 --> 03:39:50,462 TOTAL $20 MILLION FOR PHASE THREE AT A FUTURE TIME NEXT 2742 03:39:50,462 --> 03:39:54,533 YEAR. SO THEN NOW THE COUNTY KNOWS 2743 03:39:54,533 --> 03:39:59,138 WE'RE IN FOR OUR HALF OF ALL OF PHASE THREE. 2744 03:39:59,138 --> 03:40:02,574 AND THEN THE ASK THAT HE WILL MAKE TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS 2745 03:40:02,574 --> 03:40:06,244 FOR THEM TO BE IN FOR THEIR HALF. 2746 03:40:06,244 --> 03:40:09,244 AND -- >> VIA THE TIF. 2747 03:40:09,280 --> 03:40:11,482 >>Dave Bullock: THANK YOU. THE WAY THIS WHOLE THING WORKS, 2748 03:40:11,482 --> 03:40:15,620 AS IT WAS ENVISIONED FROM THE BEGINNING, THE TAX INCREMENT 2749 03:40:15,620 --> 03:40:19,624 THAT IS COLLECTED ANNUALLY AND DEPOSITED EITHER IN THE TIF FUND 2750 03:40:19,624 --> 03:40:23,362 FOR THE PART OF THE CITY OR HELD BY THE COUNTY BUT THEY PAY THEIR 2751 03:40:23,362 --> 03:40:26,231 HALF OF THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST TO THE CITY, AND THE 2752 03:40:26,231 --> 03:40:31,236 WAY THE FINANCING WORKS IS THE CITY ISSUES ALL DEBT AND THE 2753 03:40:31,236 --> 03:40:33,505 COUNTY PAYS HALF OF THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST EACH 2754 03:40:33,505 --> 03:40:37,705 YEAR. IT'S ALL UNDER THE TAX INCREMENT 2755 03:40:38,643 --> 03:40:43,315 FINANCING APPROACH THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY STARTED BACK IN 2756 03:40:43,315 --> 03:40:46,985 2019, I THINK, IS WHEN IT FIRST STARTED. 2757 03:40:46,985 --> 03:40:47,785 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: THANK YOU. 2758 03:40:47,785 --> 03:40:49,322 THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. 2759 03:40:49,322 --> 03:40:51,722 THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH. 2760 03:40:53,725 --> 03:40:59,531 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: THANK YOU. WELL, I WANTED TO SAY THAT AS 2761 03:40:59,531 --> 03:41:02,801 YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS SINCE THE BAYFRONT 2020 2762 03:41:02,801 --> 03:41:08,801 VERY, VERY, VERY BEGINNING, AND HAVE BEEN PRETTY OUTSPOKEN ABOUT 2763 03:41:08,974 --> 03:41:12,577 EVERYTHING THE BAY. AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I REALLY 2764 03:41:12,577 --> 03:41:18,500 WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH MS. BROWN FROM CCNA AND 2765 03:41:18,500 --> 03:41:23,288 HELPING TO GET THE VOICE OF THE BOATERS, AND THERE ARE SO MANY 2766 03:41:23,288 --> 03:41:26,558 DIFFERENT KINDS AND SO MANY DIFFERENT SHAPES AND SO MANY 2767 03:41:26,558 --> 03:41:31,958 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. AND TO GET THAT VOICE HEARD AND 2768 03:41:33,431 --> 03:41:36,431 NOTED AND RECOGNIZED IS INVALUABLE. 2769 03:41:37,302 --> 03:41:40,505 SO I REALLY THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT IS A HERCULEAN 2770 03:41:40,505 --> 03:41:42,407 EFFORT. AND THANK YOU TO MS. BROWN AS 2771 03:41:42,407 --> 03:41:45,644 WELL FROM CCNA. SO THANK YOU. 2772 03:41:45,644 --> 03:41:52,244 THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT WAS THE RESILIENCY 2773 03:41:52,751 --> 03:41:56,351 FACTOR OF THE PARK. PHENOMENAL JOB. 2774 03:41:58,201 --> 03:42:01,404 YES, THERE WAS DAMAGE, BUT FROM SOME OF THE DAMAGE THAT WE'VE 2775 03:42:01,404 --> 03:42:07,811 SEEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY THROUGH OUR OWN PARKS, OUR OTHER PARKS, 2776 03:42:07,811 --> 03:42:10,614 UNFORTUNATELY, DAMAGE WAS SIGNIFICANT, AND SIGNIFICANTLY 2777 03:42:10,614 --> 03:42:13,483 MORE DIFFICULT TO REPAIR AND TO GET BACK OPEN AGAIN. 2778 03:42:13,483 --> 03:42:18,355 AND WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY IS LAUDABLE 2779 03:42:18,355 --> 03:42:22,920 BECAUSE OF THAT EXTRA EFFORT IN KEEPING THE COMMUNITY'S VOICE 2780 03:42:22,920 --> 03:42:25,228 INVOLVED, MAKING SURE YOU'RE DOING BEST PRACTICES, AND DOING 2781 03:42:25,228 --> 03:42:31,367 EXACTLY WHAT YOU SET OUT TO DO. SO I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU 2782 03:42:31,367 --> 03:42:37,367 FOR THAT AS WELL. AND THE EFFORT THAT YOU'VE TAKEN 2783 03:42:41,345 --> 03:42:48,317 TOWARDS THE SHIFTING OF THE DESIGN OF THE PARK HAS ALSO BEEN 2784 03:42:48,317 --> 03:42:50,920 COMMENDABLE BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT HAS MOVING 2785 03:42:50,920 --> 03:42:55,120 PIECES. AND THAT IS ANOTHER EFFORT THAT 2786 03:42:55,859 --> 03:43:02,465 HAS TO BE NOTED AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THAT AS WELL. 2787 03:43:02,465 --> 03:43:07,700 I ALSO APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT BEING BORROWED OR BEING USED, 2788 03:43:07,700 --> 03:43:11,740 THE MILLION DOLLARS REQUESTED BEING USED AND WAITING UNTIL THE 2789 03:43:11,740 --> 03:43:14,277 OPPORTUNE TIME TO GO FORWARD WITH THE REQUEST FOR THE OTHER 2790 03:43:14,277 --> 03:43:19,148 BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT SAVES MONEY. 2791 03:43:19,148 --> 03:43:22,885 I JUST REALLY WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. 2792 03:43:22,885 --> 03:43:26,623 THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO VOLUNTEER YOUR TIME AND FOR 2793 03:43:26,623 --> 03:43:29,692 CONTINUING TO WORK WITH ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS, FOR BUILDING AN 2794 03:43:29,692 --> 03:43:34,970 INCREDIBLE GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS, AND FOR BEING COMMITTED TO THE 2795 03:43:34,970 --> 03:43:40,570 OPEN, ACCESSIBLE, FREE MOST OF THE TIME, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE 2796 03:43:40,570 --> 03:43:44,641 WAY ALL PARKS WORK. THERE ARE PARKS WHERE IT IS NOT 2797 03:43:44,641 --> 03:43:46,443 FREE. SO BEING COMMITTED TO THAT AND 2798 03:43:46,443 --> 03:43:49,979 FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THAT COMMITMENT IS REALLY VALUED BY 2799 03:43:49,979 --> 03:43:54,500 THE COMMUNITY AND BY MYSELF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 2800 03:43:54,500 --> 03:43:57,354 >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE TWO OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS 2801 03:43:57,354 --> 03:44:03,126 TODAY, DIANA SHAHEEN, COO AND ADAM GELTER WHO WAS THE MAN WE 2802 03:44:03,126 --> 03:44:06,796 COULDN'T SEE AT THE BAY PARK IMPROVEMENT BOARD. 2803 03:44:06,796 --> 03:44:09,332 HE LIVES. HE DOES -- HE LEADS ALL OF OUR 2804 03:44:09,332 --> 03:44:11,602 IMPLEMENTATION AND, OF COURSE, A LOT OF THE TEAM ISN'T HERE. 2805 03:44:11,602 --> 03:44:15,738 I GUESS THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY, THIS THING IS BUILT ON 2806 03:44:15,738 --> 03:44:18,275 PARTNERSHIPS. AND WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE NUMBER 2807 03:44:18,275 --> 03:44:20,810 OF PARTNERS THAT DO ALL THE DESIGN AND THE ENGINEERING AND 2808 03:44:20,810 --> 03:44:25,610 HELP US WITH THE RESILIENCY AND STORMWATER CONSTRUCTION. 2809 03:44:26,682 --> 03:44:30,286 ALL OF OUR PROGRAMMING IS PARTNERED, WE HAVE 30 PLUS 2810 03:44:30,286 --> 03:44:35,860 NONPROFIT PARTNERS. IT'S A UNIQUE NETWORK AND IT'S 2811 03:44:35,892 --> 03:44:38,628 BEEN TERRIFIC TO SEE IT GROW AND GET STRONGER. 2812 03:44:38,628 --> 03:44:43,766 BUT THAT'S HOW THINGS GET DONE. THAT'S HOW THINGS GET DONE. 2813 03:44:43,766 --> 03:44:46,766 >>Mayor Alpert: VICE MAYOR TRICE. 2814 03:44:46,969 --> 03:44:50,400 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: THANK YOU. THE THING IN YOUR PRESENTATION 2815 03:44:50,400 --> 03:44:58,440 THAT I HAVE TO COMMEND YOU ON IS LOTS OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE DESIGN 2816 03:44:58,581 --> 03:45:03,530 AND BUILD SOMETHING AND THEN THE STORM RIPS IT APART, YOU SAY, 2817 03:45:03,530 --> 03:45:07,590 OKAY, I'LL BUILD IT BACK THE WAY IT WAS, NO, YOU ADAPTED AND 2818 03:45:07,590 --> 03:45:13,590 SAID, WELL, THAT MIGHT NOT BE SUCH A GOOD IDEA. 2819 03:45:14,330 --> 03:45:18,680 I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE TAKING THAT APPROACH AND SAYING LET'S 2820 03:45:18,680 --> 03:45:22,868 LEARN OUR LESSONS AND ADAPT TO THE SITUATION. 2821 03:45:25,476 --> 03:45:29,780 HOPEFULLY IT WON'T COME TO IT, BUT AFTER YOU ADAPTED, WE MAY 2822 03:45:29,780 --> 03:45:32,481 DISCOVER THERE IS A NEED FOR MORE ADAPTATION, BUT AT LEAST 2823 03:45:32,481 --> 03:45:36,953 IT'S NOT SAYING I WANT TO REBUILD THE WAY IT WAS IN THE 2824 03:45:36,953 --> 03:45:39,622 BEGINNING. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 2825 03:45:39,622 --> 03:45:46,822 BUT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. BULLOCK BECAUSE THE NUMBERS HE 2826 03:45:47,960 --> 03:45:51,367 WAS THROWING OUT CONFUSED ME A LITTLE BECAUSE I'M UNDER THE 2827 03:45:51,367 --> 03:45:56,767 IMPRESSION FROM THE BAY PARK IMPROVEMENT BOARD MEETING THAT 2828 03:45:59,743 --> 03:46:06,343 YOUR REQUEST FOR PHASE THREE WAS FOR $20 MILLION OUT OF THE 2829 03:46:09,520 --> 03:46:15,652 COMBINED CITY-COUNTY TIF FUND. SO WHEN IT COMES -- AS I 2830 03:46:18,610 --> 03:46:23,666 UNDERSTAND IT THEN, THE CITY WILL AT SOME POINT DO THE BOND 2831 03:46:23,666 --> 03:46:30,266 ISSUE FOR THE FULL 20 MILLION, BUT IT WILL BE REPAID THROUGH 2832 03:46:32,341 --> 03:46:35,411 THE COMBINED COUNTY CITY TIF FUND. 2833 03:46:35,411 --> 03:46:37,480 >>Dave Bullock: THAT'S CORRECT. THE WAY THAT IT WORKS, THE CITY 2834 03:46:37,480 --> 03:46:41,584 ISSUES THE DEBT AND THEN THE COUNTY PAYS 50% OF THE PRINCIPAL 2835 03:46:41,584 --> 03:46:45,355 AND INTEREST ANNUALLY AND WE PAY 50% OF THE PRINCIPAL AND 2836 03:46:45,355 --> 03:46:47,156 INTEREST ANNUALLY. BUT IT IS CITY DEBT. 2837 03:46:47,156 --> 03:46:50,793 AND WE MAKE THE GUARANTEES. AND THEN THAT'S THE REVENUE 2838 03:46:50,793 --> 03:46:52,295 FLOW. THAT IS THE FLOW OF FUNDS TO PAY 2839 03:46:52,295 --> 03:46:56,967 THE DEBT IS 50-50, ASSUMING THE COUNTY COMMISSION APPROVES 2840 03:46:56,967 --> 03:46:59,967 EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY APPROVES. 2841 03:47:01,237 --> 03:47:04,507 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: THAT'S THE GLITCH IN THERE THAT THREE 2842 03:47:04,507 --> 03:47:09,450 ENTITIES NEED TO APPROVE THIS. THE BAY PARK IMPROVEMENT BOARD 2843 03:47:09,450 --> 03:47:15,952 ALREADY APPROVED IT, AND IF WE APPROVE IT TODAY, THEN IT WILL 2844 03:47:15,952 --> 03:47:23,152 DEPEND ON THE COUNTY TO APPROVE. IF ON THE OUTSIDE CHANCE THE 2845 03:47:23,226 --> 03:47:29,826 COUNTY DOES NOT APPROVE, IS THERE A MECHANISM FOR THE BAY 2846 03:47:35,271 --> 03:47:38,475 PARK CONSERVANCY TO COME BACK TO US TO WORK SOMETHING OUT? 2847 03:47:38,475 --> 03:47:41,344 >>Dave Bullock: I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT, BUT IF 2848 03:47:41,344 --> 03:47:46,830 SOMETHING LIKE THAT SHOULD OCCUR NOW OR IN THE FUTURE, WE WOULD 2849 03:47:46,830 --> 03:47:50,286 BEGIN TO ENGAGE IN A DISCUSSION ABOUT A DIFFERENT APPROACH. 2850 03:47:50,286 --> 03:47:51,153 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: OKAY. THANK YOU. 2851 03:47:51,153 --> 03:47:53,422 THAT WAS MY QUESTION. >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. 2852 03:47:53,422 --> 03:47:58,222 COMMISSIONER BATTIE. >>Kyle Battie: I JUST WANTED TO 2853 03:47:59,429 --> 03:48:04,701 SAY THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO 2854 03:48:04,701 --> 03:48:12,119 THIS PROJECT AND EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING TO BE IN THE FUTURE TO 2855 03:48:12,119 --> 03:48:15,989 THIS CITY AND ITS INCLUSION. AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN A 2856 03:48:15,989 --> 03:48:21,328 CHAMPION OF IT FROM JUMP STREET AND JUST HUMBLED AND 2857 03:48:21,328 --> 03:48:28,528 APPRECIATIVE TO BE ON THE BOARD AND BE A PART OF THIS. 2858 03:48:29,203 --> 03:48:34,141 AGAIN, I DON'T THINK I DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING THAT'S PERTAINING 2859 03:48:34,141 --> 03:48:37,311 TO THIS PROJECT. I'M OUTSPOKEN ABOUT IT, IN FAVOR 2860 03:48:37,311 --> 03:48:42,149 OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO AND CONTINUE TO DO. 2861 03:48:42,149 --> 03:48:44,818 APPLAUD YOU IN ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING. 2862 03:48:44,818 --> 03:48:48,956 THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. 2863 03:48:48,956 --> 03:48:54,356 >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS EITHER. 2864 03:48:54,628 --> 03:48:56,430 JUST WANTED TO JUST COMMENT. I SAW THIS PRESENTATION AT THE 2865 03:48:56,430 --> 03:49:00,368 BAY PARK IMPROVEMENT BORED, SO I SAW IT. 2866 03:49:00,368 --> 03:49:04,171 BUT I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT A LOT. 2867 03:49:04,171 --> 03:49:10,771 THE CONCEPTS ARE SO EXCITING, AND I THINK FROM DAY ONE, 2868 03:49:10,911 --> 03:49:16,911 EVERYBODY HAS COME UP WITH JUST A REALLY AMAZING PARK. 2869 03:49:16,917 --> 03:49:21,989 SO FAR ALL OF THE CREATIVE PEOPLE WHO COME UP WITH THESE 2870 03:49:21,989 --> 03:49:28,589 DESIGNS AND WAYS TO DO THINGS, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO 2871 03:49:28,695 --> 03:49:33,495 GETTING THIS APPROVED AND SEEING THAT WATER FEATURE. 2872 03:49:35,700 --> 03:49:39,730 SO I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA. 2873 03:49:39,730 --> 03:49:42,876 I LOVED THE PARK OVER PARKING IDEA TO PROVIDE SOME PARKING. 2874 03:49:42,876 --> 03:49:47,581 AND GIVE US A HILL TO CLIMB. ALL RIGHT. 2875 03:49:47,581 --> 03:49:50,150 COMMISSIONERS, CAN WE GET A MOTION? 2876 03:49:50,150 --> 03:49:53,354 >>Dave Bullock: MADAM CHAIR, IF I COULD MAKE A PROPOSED MOTION? 2877 03:49:53,354 --> 03:49:55,222 >>Mayor Alpert: SURE. >>Dave Bullock: YOU CAN ALL DO 2878 03:49:55,222 --> 03:49:57,491 WITH IT WHAT YOU WANT. IT WOULD BE MOVE TO APPROVE THE 2879 03:49:57,491 --> 03:50:02,163 CONCEPT OF FUNDING FOR PHASE 3 OF THE BAY PARK IN AN AMOUNT 2880 03:50:02,163 --> 03:50:05,499 ESTIMATED TO BE $20 MILLION CONTINGENT ON EQUAL FUNDING BY 2881 03:50:05,499 --> 03:50:08,636 SARASOTA COUNTY. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I'LL 2882 03:50:08,636 --> 03:50:11,439 MAKE THAT MOTION. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I'LL SECOND 2883 03:50:11,439 --> 03:50:13,708 IT. BUT DO YOU NEED THE MILLION 2884 03:50:13,708 --> 03:50:16,708 DOLLARS THROWN IN THERE SOMEPLACE? 2885 03:50:21,648 --> 03:50:24,520 >>Dave Bullock: I THINK -- NO. [ LAUGHTER ] 2886 03:50:24,520 --> 03:50:27,721 I THINK WE'RE OKAY. IF YOU APPROVE -- THIS IS A 2887 03:50:27,721 --> 03:50:32,327 CONCEPT WHERE EVERYTHING IS CONTINGENT ON THE COUNTY. 2888 03:50:32,327 --> 03:50:35,796 I THINK WE'RE COMFORTABLE THEY CAN BEGIN TO INVOICE AGAINST 2889 03:50:35,796 --> 03:50:39,467 MONEY WE ALREADY HAVE IN AN ACCOUNT, AS LONG AS THE COUNTY 2890 03:50:39,467 --> 03:50:41,802 APPROVES IT. AND YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THE 2891 03:50:41,802 --> 03:50:45,500 FUNDING YET. I'M TRYING TO RESERVE FOR YOU 2892 03:50:45,500 --> 03:50:48,475 THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY APPROVE THE FUNDING AT A FUTURE DATE 2893 03:50:48,475 --> 03:50:50,944 WHEN WE HAVE EVERYTHING NAILED DOWN, WE KNOW HOW MUCH 2894 03:50:50,944 --> 03:50:54,481 EVERYTHING IS, YOU'LL MAKE THE FINAL VOTE ON FUNDING. 2895 03:50:54,481 --> 03:50:57,818 BUT AG CAN MAKE THE STATEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS APPROVED THE 2896 03:50:57,818 --> 03:51:03,224 CONCEPT OF FUNDING PHASE THREE IN THE AMOUNT OF $20 MILLION AND 2897 03:51:03,224 --> 03:51:07,494 CERTAINLY RELAY TO THEM WE HAVE THE ABILITY AND AT THE STAFF 2898 03:51:07,494 --> 03:51:11,898 LEVEL, AGREED WITH STEVE PATELLAR WE CAN USE OUR JOINT 2899 03:51:11,898 --> 03:51:13,835 ACCOUNT FOR THE FIRST FEW MONTHS OF THE WORK. 2900 03:51:13,835 --> 03:51:18,171 I THINK WE'RE OKAY. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I SECONDED. 2901 03:51:18,171 --> 03:51:22,371 >>Mayor Alpert: COMMISSIONER OHLRICH MADE THE MOTION. 2902 03:51:23,510 --> 03:51:26,514 ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I WOULD 2903 03:51:26,514 --> 03:51:29,449 LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. I REMEMBER THE DAY VIRGINIA 2904 03:51:29,449 --> 03:51:35,255 HALEY, MICHAEL KLAUBER AND I THINK JON THAXTON CAME TO CCNA 2905 03:51:35,255 --> 03:51:41,195 AND PITCHED THIS WILD IDEA ABOUT A PARK ON THE BAY. 2906 03:51:41,195 --> 03:51:43,397 AND WE SAID THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA. 2907 03:51:43,397 --> 03:51:46,867 WE'RE ALL IN. SO HERE WE ARE TODAY, HOPEFULLY 2908 03:51:46,867 --> 03:51:50,467 ALL IN. >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. 2909 03:51:51,605 --> 03:51:57,500 COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU WILL VOTE. IS THAT YOUR VOTE? 2910 03:51:59,412 --> 03:52:04,812 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH LET US 2911 03:52:04,885 --> 03:52:12,685 KNOW IF WE NEED HELP TOMORROW. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO 2912 03:52:20,567 --> 03:52:22,302 SPEAK? NOBODY. 2913 03:52:22,302 --> 03:52:25,438 OKAY. WE'LL GO TO ITEM 14, REMARKS OF 2914 03:52:25,438 --> 03:52:27,438 COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER BATTIE. 2915 03:52:28,308 --> 03:52:30,643 >>Kyle Battie: ABSOLUTELY NONE. >>Mayor Alpert: COMMISSIONER 2916 03:52:30,643 --> 03:52:33,514 OHLRICH. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: THANK 2917 03:52:33,514 --> 03:52:35,315 YOU. TWO THINGS. 2918 03:52:35,315 --> 03:52:40,587 I'M ON THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES FINANCE AND TAXATION 2919 03:52:40,587 --> 03:52:43,457 COMMITTEE. WE HAVE THREE AREAS OF FOCUS. 2920 03:52:43,457 --> 03:52:48,395 ONE IS AD VALOREM TAXES, WHICH SEEMS TO BE A BIG DEAL THIS 2921 03:52:48,395 --> 03:52:52,320 YEAR. THE OTHER IS LOCAL OPTION SALES 2922 03:52:52,320 --> 03:52:55,200 TAXES. AND THE THIRD IS LOCAL BUSINESS 2923 03:52:55,200 --> 03:52:59,202 TAX REFORM. THE COMMITTEE HAS DECIDED TO 2924 03:52:59,239 --> 03:53:03,944 FOCUS ON AD VALOREM TAXES, AND WILL BE WRITING A POLICY 2925 03:53:03,944 --> 03:53:09,150 STATEMENT THAT WE USE TO WORK WHEN WE GO TALK TO THE 2926 03:53:09,150 --> 03:53:14,415 LEGISLATORS IN TALLAHASSEE. THE SECOND THING IS, I'M TAKING 2927 03:53:15,823 --> 03:53:20,360 A COURSE FROM THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES UNIVERSITY ON 2928 03:53:20,360 --> 03:53:24,560 HOW TO BECOME A MORE DATA-DRIVEN CITY. 2929 03:53:25,566 --> 03:53:31,404 I HOPE TO BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THIS CITY SO WE CAN BE 2930 03:53:31,404 --> 03:53:34,641 MORE DATA DRIVEN IN OUR DECISION MAKING. 2931 03:53:34,641 --> 03:53:37,244 THAT'S IT, MAYOR. >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. 2932 03:53:37,244 --> 03:53:39,780 COMMISSIONER AHEARN-KOCH. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: YES. 2933 03:53:39,780 --> 03:53:43,450 SO FOR FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, I'M ON THE UTILITIES NATURAL 2934 03:53:43,450 --> 03:53:47,650 RESOURCES AND PUBLIC WORKS LEGISLATIVE POLICY COMMITTEE. 2935 03:53:47,655 --> 03:53:51,324 WE HAVE 56 MEMBERS, AND WE HAD A NUMBER OF ITEMS. 2936 03:53:51,324 --> 03:53:56,724 WE CHOSE AS OUR FIRST ONE ENTERPRISE FUND TRANSFERS 2937 03:53:57,264 --> 03:54:02,664 BECAUSE LAST YEAR, LAST SESSION, THE LEGISLATORS IN TALLAHASSEE 2938 03:54:02,669 --> 03:54:07,608 PROPOSED TO LIMIT AND RESTRICT HOW MUNICIPALITIES CAN USE 2939 03:54:07,608 --> 03:54:11,808 REVENUES GENERATED FROM UTILITIES SUCH AS ELECTRIC, 2940 03:54:13,146 --> 03:54:18,546 NATURAL GAS, WATER, WASTEWATER, OUTSIDE OF THE CORPORATE LIMITS. 2941 03:54:18,762 --> 03:54:22,232 AND THERE ARE OFTEN BOND OBLIGATIONS, DEBT SERVICE, AND 2942 03:54:22,232 --> 03:54:26,436 OTHER CONTRACTUAL PROJECTS THAT MUNICIPALITIES USE THOSE FUNDS 2943 03:54:26,436 --> 03:54:29,773 FOR, AND THIS WOULD LIMIT THAT. THE BILL LAST YEAR PASSED THE 2944 03:54:29,773 --> 03:54:34,578 HOUSE, BUT IT FAILED IN THE SENATE, SO WE FEEL THAT IT'S -- 2945 03:54:34,578 --> 03:54:38,982 WE'RE SURE IT'S GOING TO COME BACK AND WANT TO BE PREPARED TO 2946 03:54:38,982 --> 03:54:42,652 GO TO TALLAHASSEE AND GIVE GOOD ARGUMENTS AGAINST IT. 2947 03:54:42,652 --> 03:54:47,452 THE SECOND ONE WAS THE EXTRA TERRITORIAL SURCHARGES. 2948 03:54:49,920 --> 03:54:53,630 FOR MUNICIPALITIES TO MAINTAIN AUTHORITY OVER ESTABLISHING -- 2949 03:54:53,630 --> 03:54:57,000 TO ESTABLISH AND APPLY REASONABLE EXTRA TERRITORIAL 2950 03:54:57,000 --> 03:55:00,604 SURCHARGES TO REFLECT THE COST OF PROVIDING SERVICES OUTSIDE OF 2951 03:55:00,604 --> 03:55:05,275 THE MUNICIPAL BORDERS. FOR EXAMPLE, LONGBOAT KEY HAS AN 2952 03:55:05,275 --> 03:55:10,814 AGREEMENT TO GET -- THEY HAVE A SUBAQUEOUS LINE WHERE THEY GET I 2953 03:55:10,814 --> 03:55:13,160 BELIEVE WATER AND WASTEWATER, IS THAT CORRECT? 2954 03:55:13,160 --> 03:55:15,151 >>Dave Bullock: THEY TAKE WASTEWATER -- 2955 03:55:15,151 --> 03:55:17,155 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: OUT TO MANATEE COUNTY. 2956 03:55:17,155 --> 03:55:21,955 LONGBOAT KEY HAPPILY PAYS THAT SURCHARGE, WHATEVER MANATEE 2957 03:55:22,259 --> 03:55:27,300 COUNTY GIVES THEM BECAUSE THE CONSEQUENCE IS PRETTY 2958 03:55:27,300 --> 03:55:31,230 UNAPPETIZING. LONGBOAT KEY IS A RECEIVER OF 2959 03:55:32,269 --> 03:55:35,439 SERVICES, HAS NO ISSUE, AS DO A LOT OF FOLKS WHO RECEIVE THOSE 2960 03:55:35,439 --> 03:55:36,974 KINDS OF SERVICES. THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THEM 2961 03:55:36,974 --> 03:55:41,645 OTHERWISE. SO WE ARE GOING TO BE ADVOCATING 2962 03:55:41,645 --> 03:55:45,845 AGAINST THEM LIMITING THAT INCREASE IN CHARGES. 2963 03:55:47,384 --> 03:55:50,387 OFTEN THE MUNICIPALITY HAS TO INVEST OR THE COUNTY HAS TO 2964 03:55:50,387 --> 03:55:53,122 INVEST IN PROVIDING THAT. SO THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PAY 2965 03:55:53,122 --> 03:55:57,527 FOR THAT. A THIRD, CLOSE THIRD WAS ONE 2966 03:55:57,527 --> 03:55:59,462 WATER. AND IT'S A CONCEPT WE SUPPORTED 2967 03:55:59,462 --> 03:56:01,465 LAST YEAR AND WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT. 2968 03:56:01,465 --> 03:56:06,736 AND WHAT ONE WATER IS, IT IS AN INTEGRATIVE APPROACH TO ALL 2969 03:56:06,736 --> 03:56:09,720 THINGS WATER. THAT'S WATER SUPPLY, QUALITY, 2970 03:56:09,720 --> 03:56:12,720 QUANTITY, PROTECTION, CONSERVATION AND SURFACE 2971 03:56:13,877 --> 03:56:17,477 GROUNDWATER, FRESHWATER, MARINE WATER, POTABLE WATER, 2972 03:56:17,614 --> 03:56:21,417 WASTEWATER, RECLAIMED WATER, ALL OF IT FALLS UNDER ONE 2973 03:56:21,417 --> 03:56:26,217 INTERCONNECTED UMBRELLA. WHAT IT DOES IS IT BASICALLY 2974 03:56:26,422 --> 03:56:32,422 ENCOURAGES FUNDING FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT SILOED BUT ACTUALLY 2975 03:56:32,829 --> 03:56:36,299 HAVE MULTIPLE IMPACTS ON THE WHOLE GLOBAL SYSTEM BECAUSE 2976 03:56:36,299 --> 03:56:39,502 WATER IS REGIONAL. AND TEXAS, FOR EXAMPLE, SPENDS A 2977 03:56:39,502 --> 03:56:44,974 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR ON ONE WATER PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY CAN 2978 03:56:44,974 --> 03:56:47,710 SECURE FUNDING TO SAY IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO FIT THIS CHECK 2979 03:56:47,710 --> 03:56:50,781 MARK OR THAT ONE. IT'S GOING TO FIT 50 OF THEM. 2980 03:56:50,781 --> 03:56:57,381 AND IT'S GOING TO IMPACT US IN A MUCH BIGGER WAY. 2981 03:56:59,550 --> 03:57:03,526 WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR WAS THE STATE FELT LIKE THE COMMITTEE 2982 03:57:03,526 --> 03:57:07,230 WAS NOT COMPLETELY READY TO ADDRESS THIS. 2983 03:57:07,230 --> 03:57:10,967 SO OUR COMMITTEE PICKING TWO DECIDED WE WOULD SPEAK IN 2984 03:57:10,967 --> 03:57:15,605 SUPPORT OF ONE WATER AND WAIT UNTIL THE COMMITTEE WAS ACTUALLY 2985 03:57:15,605 --> 03:57:20,944 AT A POINT WHERE THEY CAN DO IT. PLANT CITY IS A BIG ONE WATER 2986 03:57:20,944 --> 03:57:27,483 CITY AS ARE A NUMBER OF CITIES. SO THERE IS A CONFERENCE, MR. 2987 03:57:27,483 --> 03:57:32,822 BULLOCK OR SUMMIT, I SHOULD SAY, ON OCTOBER 30th IN PLANT CITY 2988 03:57:32,822 --> 03:57:35,691 HAVING TO DO WITH ONE WATER. AND GOT A NUMBER OF PARTNERS 2989 03:57:35,691 --> 03:57:38,294 THAT WE KNOW AND PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE AS WELL. 2990 03:57:38,294 --> 03:57:42,565 SO THAT WAS REALLY -- IT'S WHERE THINGS ARE GOING FOR FUNDING AND 2991 03:57:42,565 --> 03:57:45,235 WATER, BECAUSE THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASSET FOR THE CITY OR 2992 03:57:45,235 --> 03:57:52,435 FOR THE STATE, I SHOULD SAY. I WANTED TO SHARE THAT I 2993 03:57:52,776 --> 03:57:56,976 ATTENDED THE DOWNTOWN SARASOTA ENRICHMENT ASSOCIATION'S ANNUAL 2994 03:57:57,380 --> 03:57:59,783 MEETING. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF FOLKS 2995 03:57:59,783 --> 03:58:02,184 THERE. I WOULD SAY OVER 50 FROM 2996 03:58:02,184 --> 03:58:05,455 MERCHANTS FROM DOWNTOWN. THEY ARE GOING TO BE HAVING AN 2997 03:58:05,455 --> 03:58:08,455 EVENT DURING THE THANKSGIVING, CHRISTMASTIME. 2998 03:58:09,526 --> 03:58:12,529 IT'S GOING TO BE TO PROMOTE LOCAL SHOPPING IN DOWNTOWN 2999 03:58:12,529 --> 03:58:14,664 SARASOTA, AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING ALL KINDS OF STUFF TO 3000 03:58:14,664 --> 03:58:16,332 CELEBRATE AROUND THAT. SO LOOK FOR THAT. 3001 03:58:16,332 --> 03:58:20,937 THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING INTO DOING A DOWNTOWN SHOPPING MAP. 3002 03:58:20,937 --> 03:58:25,274 WE ALL ATTENDED I BELIEVE THAT SWEARING IN OF THE SEVEN NEW 3003 03:58:25,274 --> 03:58:28,878 OFFICERS, AND THAT WAS REALLY A BEAUTIFUL EVENT. 3004 03:58:28,878 --> 03:58:35,251 SO I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THOSE OF HOW ATTENDED AS WELL. 3005 03:58:35,251 --> 03:58:41,851 U.S. RECYCLING, THE GROUP FROM CCNA, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE 3006 03:58:43,959 --> 03:58:50,559 MEETING AND MOVING FORWARD WITH TRYING TO GET THAT SITUATION TO 3007 03:58:50,766 --> 03:58:52,969 CHANGE. I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. 3008 03:58:52,969 --> 03:58:56,172 AND WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SHARE. 3009 03:58:56,172 --> 03:58:57,706 >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 3010 03:58:57,706 --> 03:59:00,910 VICE MAYOR. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I'M GOING TO 3011 03:59:00,910 --> 03:59:03,780 BE VERY BRIEF ON FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. 3012 03:59:03,780 --> 03:59:08,580 I'M ON THE DEVELOPMENT CODE ENFORCEMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT 3013 03:59:12,322 --> 03:59:16,260 COMMITTEE. WE PRACTICALLY HAD A TIE ON OUR 3014 03:59:16,260 --> 03:59:22,626 TWO ITEMS BEING CRAs BECAUSE AT LEAST ONE LEGISLATOR WANTS TO 3015 03:59:23,399 --> 03:59:28,199 ELIMINATE CRAs. AND THEN THERE WERE LAUNDRY LIST 3016 03:59:29,139 --> 03:59:35,739 OF HOUSING RELATED THINGS, SO WE SAID HOUSING ALSO, WHICH WOULD 3017 03:59:38,130 --> 03:59:44,130 INCLUDE LIVE LOCAL ACT AND IMPACT FEES, SEVERAL LINE ITEMS. 3018 03:59:44,220 --> 03:59:51,420 SO WE WILL PROBABLY NARROW DONE WHICH OF THOSE WE WILL INCLUDE 3019 03:59:51,427 --> 03:59:55,270 IN OUR ISSUE WITH THE LEGISLATORS. 3020 03:59:56,990 --> 04:00:01,504 BUT SEVERAL BILLS IN THAT AREA WERE FILED DURING THE MEETING, 3021 04:00:01,504 --> 04:00:04,841 SO IT WAS, OH, YEAH, WE CAN'T REALLY GIVE YOU ANY DETAILS 3022 04:00:04,841 --> 04:00:09,379 BECAUSE THIS JUST CAME OUT. SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T HAVE 3023 04:00:09,379 --> 04:00:13,917 ANYTHING SOLID TO SAY TODAY. AND THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO LET 3024 04:00:13,917 --> 04:00:18,321 YOU ALL KNOW TODAY. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: YOU SAID 3025 04:00:18,321 --> 04:00:22,792 NUMBER ONE WAS CRAs. AND NUMBER TWO WAS? 3026 04:00:22,792 --> 04:00:27,697 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: HOUSING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN THAT 3027 04:00:27,697 --> 04:00:29,941 ORDER BECAUSE THEY WERE DIFFERENT BY ONE VOTE. 3028 04:00:29,941 --> 04:00:33,110 SO THEN THEY DID A RECOUNT. BUT I WAS BUSY TALKING TO 3029 04:00:33,110 --> 04:00:38,411 SOMEBODY WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED THE RESULTS OF THE RECOUNT. 3030 04:00:39,284 --> 04:00:41,860 >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: YOU'LL TELL US AT THE NEXT MEETING. 3031 04:00:41,860 --> 04:00:44,686 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: YEAH. >>Mayor Alpert: OKAY. 3032 04:00:48,920 --> 04:00:53,364 I GUESS I'LL TALK ABOUT MY LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE, WHICH 3033 04:00:53,364 --> 04:00:58,164 SEEMS LIKE A REALLY DISPARATE GROUP OF TOPICS. 3034 04:00:58,303 --> 04:01:01,303 IT'S INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS, MOBILITY, AND 3035 04:01:02,974 --> 04:01:07,779 EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. SO I'M NOT SURE -- SO I DO HAVE 3036 04:01:07,779 --> 04:01:11,249 -- SB 180. WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT. 3037 04:01:11,249 --> 04:01:17,849 WE'RE PROMOTING SOME, OR THE ISSUE CAME UP TO PROMOTE SOME 3038 04:01:17,989 --> 04:01:22,861 AMENDMENTS TO SB 180 TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION, CLEAN UP 3039 04:01:22,861 --> 04:01:29,461 SOME OF THE PROVISIONS AND THE ISSUE IS SUPPOSEDLY THE ORIGINAL 3040 04:01:35,600 --> 04:01:40,278 INTENT WAS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO REBUILD WHERE 3041 04:01:40,278 --> 04:01:45,817 THEY ALREADY HAD A BUILDING AND NOT BE.IS TOED BY LOCAL 3042 04:01:45,817 --> 04:01:49,154 GOVERNMENT IF THEY LOST IT BECAUSE OF A HURRICANE. 3043 04:01:49,154 --> 04:01:53,392 BUT THAT APPLIES NOW TO EVERYBODY WHETHER THEY WERE 3044 04:01:53,392 --> 04:01:56,992 AFFECTED BY THE HURRICANE OR NOT. 3045 04:01:57,495 --> 04:01:59,564 AND THEN WE DISCUSSED SEVERAL ISSUES. 3046 04:01:59,564 --> 04:02:07,172 WE HAD TO NARROW IT DOWN TO TWO, AND THEN NEXT MONTH WE'LL CHOOSE 3047 04:02:07,172 --> 04:02:10,575 ONE. THE SECOND ISSUE THAT WAS CHOSEN 3048 04:02:10,575 --> 04:02:14,775 WAS CHANGING THE DATES FOR MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS. 3049 04:02:15,946 --> 04:02:18,916 SO ESSENTIALLY THE STATE IS WANTING THEM TO CHANGE THE DATES 3050 04:02:18,916 --> 04:02:23,716 OF THEIR ELECTIONS JUST AS WE DID HERE. 3051 04:02:24,855 --> 04:02:31,796 AND THE POINT FROM THE GROUP WAS THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE THE POINT 3052 04:02:31,796 --> 04:02:37,134 THAT THEY DON'T REALLY THINK THE STATE SHOULD BE INTERFERING IN 3053 04:02:37,134 --> 04:02:43,800 THE LOCAL ELECTIONS AND WHEN THEY ARE HELD AND THE TERM 3054 04:02:43,800 --> 04:02:47,808 LIMITS. IF YOU MAKE IT EVERY EVEN YEAR, 3055 04:02:50,810 --> 04:02:53,885 WHERE GOVERNOR OR A PRESIDENT IS GETTING ELECTED, YOU'VE GOT 3056 04:02:53,885 --> 04:02:57,890 COMMISSIONS THAT ARE -- HAVE THREE-YEAR TERMS. 3057 04:02:57,890 --> 04:03:00,224 SO THEN THEY CHANGE THEIR CHARTER REGARDING THAT AND HOW 3058 04:03:00,224 --> 04:03:03,428 LONG THEY SERVE. SO IT'S MUCH MORE COMPLICATED 3059 04:03:03,428 --> 04:03:06,831 AND THEY JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT IS THE STATE'S PURVIEW. 3060 04:03:06,831 --> 04:03:12,103 SO THOSE WERE THE TWO ISSUES THAT GOT CHOSEN. 3061 04:03:12,103 --> 04:03:15,706 OUR ISSUE FOR THE ART ON SIDEWALKS CAME IN THIRD. 3062 04:03:15,706 --> 04:03:21,512 BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T INDIVIDUALLY LOBBY FOR 3063 04:03:21,512 --> 04:03:26,312 THAT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY. 3064 04:03:26,784 --> 04:03:28,453 YES. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: FIRST OF ALL, 3065 04:03:28,453 --> 04:03:31,790 I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THE ART ON SIDEWALKS. 3066 04:03:31,790 --> 04:03:33,392 I HEARD IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. 3067 04:03:33,392 --> 04:03:38,129 THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. AND THEN, SECOND OF ALL, FOR SB 3068 04:03:38,129 --> 04:03:41,199 180, WHEN YOU GET THAT LANGUAGE FINAL, WOULD YOU MIND SHARING 3069 04:03:41,199 --> 04:03:43,401 IT? BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS OUR MOST 3070 04:03:43,401 --> 04:03:47,272 IMPORTANT ONE, WHEN WE GO TO TALLAHASSEE, BIG ONE. 3071 04:03:47,272 --> 04:03:50,740 >>Mayor Alpert: YEAH, OKAY. THAT WILL BE AFTER NEXT MONTH'S 3072 04:03:50,740 --> 04:03:51,208 MEETING. BUT THERE ARE SOME PROPOSALS. 3073 04:03:51,208 --> 04:03:56,214 I CAN GET WHAT THEY HAVE ALREADY PROPOSED, WHAT THEY ARE WANTING 3074 04:03:56,214 --> 04:03:57,549 TO -- >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: OKAY. 3075 04:03:57,549 --> 04:04:01,886 DO I HAVE A DOCUMENT FROM -- FROM VOLUSIA COUNTY, WHAT THEY 3076 04:04:01,886 --> 04:04:05,156 DID SIDE BY SIDE AS THEIR PROPOSAL. 3077 04:04:05,156 --> 04:04:07,825 IF YOU HAVE WHAT YOUR COMMITTEE DID, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 3078 04:04:07,825 --> 04:04:10,496 THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: WHEN YOU ARE 3079 04:04:10,496 --> 04:04:13,698 FINISHED, I DO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE I WOULD LIKE TO ADD. 3080 04:04:13,698 --> 04:04:16,340 >>Mayor Alpert: GO AHEAD. >>Vice-Mayor Trice: THIS IS TO 3081 04:04:16,340 --> 04:04:20,571 THROW OUT AND MAYBE GET A SENSE OF THE COMMISSION. 3082 04:04:20,571 --> 04:04:27,145 IN LIGHT OF THE REMOVAL OF STUFF ON THE SIDEWALKS, STREETS, 3083 04:04:27,145 --> 04:04:34,345 CROSSWALKS, I NOTICED AT LEAST ONE OTHER CITY IN THE STATE HAS 3084 04:04:37,122 --> 04:04:41,322 PAINTED THE BICYCLE RACKS IN RAINBOW COLORS. 3085 04:04:42,427 --> 04:04:47,465 I THINK THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING IF WE ARE IN A POSITION TO PAINT 3086 04:04:47,465 --> 04:04:53,537 BICYCLE RACKS IN OUR PARKS, WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER DOING 3087 04:04:53,537 --> 04:04:56,208 THAT. >>Jen Ahearn-Koch: SAW THAT AS 3088 04:04:56,208 --> 04:04:59,544 WELL. >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I ASK 3089 04:04:59,544 --> 04:05:04,944 HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST? >>Vice-Mayor Trice: THERE MIGHT 3090 04:05:05,351 --> 04:05:09,220 BE VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE WILLING TO DO THAT. 3091 04:05:09,220 --> 04:05:14,250 >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. 3092 04:05:14,250 --> 04:05:14,760 >>Joseph Polzak: NOTHING FOR TODAY. 3093 04:05:14,760 --> 04:05:18,960 THANK YOU, MAYOR. >>Mayor Alpert: MS. GRIGGS. 3094 04:05:20,970 --> 04:05:22,300 >>Shayla Griggs: I DO HAVE SOMETHING. 3095 04:05:22,300 --> 04:05:25,837 RARELY. I NEED TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT 3096 04:05:25,837 --> 04:05:31,237 THAT WE ARE HOSTING OUR SECOND SHRED DOCUMENT EVENT. 3097 04:05:33,978 --> 04:05:37,581 SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 9 A.M. TO NOON AT THE VAN WEZEL PARKING 3098 04:05:37,581 --> 04:05:42,381 LOT. WE WILL HAVE THE SAME VAN BACK. 3099 04:05:42,788 --> 04:05:47,588 THEY WERE AWESOME. THAT IS THE GARBAGE MEN. 3100 04:05:47,859 --> 04:05:50,862 THEY ARE PERFORMING '60s SONGS. 3101 04:05:50,862 --> 04:05:52,397 OPEN TO THE CITY OF SARASOTA RESIDENTS. 3102 04:05:52,397 --> 04:05:57,601 YOU CAN BRING UP TO FOUR BOXES PER HOUSEHOLD, FREE, SECURE, 3103 04:05:57,601 --> 04:06:00,905 ON-SITE SHREDDING. ACCEPTABLE ITEMS ARE PAPER 3104 04:06:00,905 --> 04:06:04,542 DOCUMENTS, FILE FOLDERS, STAPLES, AND PAPER CLIPS. 3105 04:06:04,542 --> 04:06:09,346 NOT ACCEPTED, CDs, DVDs, HARD METAL BINDERS, NOT TAKING 3106 04:06:09,346 --> 04:06:14,152 ANY OF THAT. YOU WILL NEED TO SHOW YOUR CITY 3107 04:06:14,152 --> 04:06:16,954 ID. AND WE JUST HOPE PEOPLE SHOW UP 3108 04:06:16,954 --> 04:06:19,900 AGAIN. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PROMOTE IT. 3109 04:06:19,900 --> 04:06:21,760 GET IT OUT THERE. WE HAD A GREAT EVENT LAST TIME. 3110 04:06:21,760 --> 04:06:25,263 GREAT TURNOUT LAST TIME. HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER 3111 04:06:25,263 --> 04:06:28,166 ONE. >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. 3112 04:06:28,166 --> 04:06:30,340 DONE FREE. >>Shayla Griggs: ALSO. 3113 04:06:30,340 --> 04:06:32,837 I HAVE ONE MORE THING. I NEED TO BRING TO YOUR 3114 04:06:32,837 --> 04:06:35,140 ATTENTION, I'LL HAVE MILES COME OUT AND EXPLAIN IT. 3115 04:06:35,140 --> 04:06:39,177 THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND COMMUNITY NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT IT 3116 04:06:39,177 --> 04:06:41,518 AND YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT IF ASKED. 3117 04:06:41,518 --> 04:06:43,654 MILES WILL EXPLAIN IT BETTER THAN I CAN. 3118 04:06:43,654 --> 04:06:47,925 >> THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. WANTED TO UPDATE EVERYBODY, AS 3119 04:06:47,925 --> 04:06:53,164 MOST EVERYBODY KNOWS, THE COUNTY IS MOVING OUT OF 1660 RINGLING. 3120 04:06:53,164 --> 04:06:56,133 IT'S QUITE A MOMENT. BEEN A LONG TIME OVER THERE. 3121 04:06:56,133 --> 04:06:59,337 THEIR LAST MEETING THERE IS TOMORROW. 3122 04:06:59,337 --> 04:07:02,740 IN THE MEANTIME, UNTIL THE NEW ADMINISTRATION BUILDING GETS 3123 04:07:02,740 --> 04:07:08,679 BUILT UP BY THE CELERY FIELDS, THEY ARE GOING TO BE AT RLA IN 3124 04:07:08,679 --> 04:07:13,619 VENICE. WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US SPECIFICALLY AND OUR BROADCAST 3125 04:07:13,619 --> 04:07:17,287 OF THE MEETINGS -- >>Mayor Alpert: RL ANDERSON. 3126 04:07:17,287 --> 04:07:20,887 >> THAT IS THEIR SOUTH COUNTY FACILITY. 3127 04:07:21,426 --> 04:07:25,229 FOR US, GENERALLY -- HOW IT WORKS, OUR SIGNAL GOES FROM THIS 3128 04:07:25,229 --> 04:07:28,866 ROOM VIA FIBER ACROSS THE STREET TO 1660 AND THEN THAT'S WHERE 3129 04:07:28,866 --> 04:07:33,170 MASTER CONTROL IS AND IT GOES TO VERIZON AND COMCAST FROM THERE. 3130 04:07:33,170 --> 04:07:36,574 1660 IS GONE AS OF THE END OF THIS MONTH. 3131 04:07:36,574 --> 04:07:42,460 THERE'S NO CONNECTION TO VERIZON OR COMCAST FROM THE RLA BUILDING 3132 04:07:42,460 --> 04:07:44,781 IN VENICE. NOT ONLY US, BUT THEM AS WELL 3133 04:07:44,781 --> 04:07:50,253 ARE NOT GOING TO BE ON THOSE TV CHANNELS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. 3134 04:07:50,253 --> 04:07:52,857 THEY ARE SAYING JANUARY FOR THE BUILD-OUT TO BE COMPLETED BUT 3135 04:07:52,857 --> 04:07:56,360 THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES. 3136 04:07:56,360 --> 04:07:59,130 THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT. JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, IF YOU 3137 04:07:59,130 --> 04:08:04,335 HEAR ABOUT IT, WE'RE NOT ON TV. THE COMCAST FEED IS 3138 04:08:04,335 --> 04:08:06,537 UNINTERRUPTED. THAT'S FOR ALL OUR ADVISORY 3139 04:08:06,537 --> 04:08:09,807 BOARDS ON COMCAST LIVE STREAMING AND ON DEMAND. 3140 04:08:09,807 --> 04:08:15,207 THE CITY COMMISSION IS ON GRANICUS AND Facebook LIVE. 3141 04:08:16,413 --> 04:08:17,881 >>Mayor Alpert: PEOPLE CAN STREAM IT -- 3142 04:08:17,881 --> 04:08:21,481 >> YOU CAN STILL STREAM IT. UNINTERRUPTED. 3143 04:08:23,554 --> 04:08:26,554 GRANICUS WILL UNINTERRUPTED, KEEP GOING. 3144 04:08:27,958 --> 04:08:29,293 >>Shayla Griggs: WE WON'T HAVE TV FEED. 3145 04:08:29,293 --> 04:08:32,229 WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF THAT. 3146 04:08:32,229 --> 04:08:33,431 >>Mayor Alpert: THANK YOU. GOOD IDEA. 3147 04:08:33,431 --> 04:08:38,340 WE NEED TO KNOW THAT. THANK YOU, MILES. 3148 04:08:38,340 --> 04:08:41,105 I'LL GO TO THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. 3149 04:08:41,105 --> 04:08:42,506 NOTHING. OKAY. 3150 04:08:42,506 --> 04:08:47,306 MR. BULLOCK. >>Dave Bullock: I HAVE A COUPLE 3151 04:08:47,711 --> 04:08:51,582 OF THINGS. I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSION'S 3152 04:08:51,582 --> 04:08:55,319 APPROVAL TO SEND A LETTER TO SARASOTA COUNTY UNDER THE 3153 04:08:55,319 --> 04:08:59,122 MAYOR'S SIGNATURE ASKING THEM, FIRST ASKING IF WE CAN DO A 3154 04:08:59,122 --> 04:09:03,460 PRESENTATION ON THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND IF WE COULD GET 3155 04:09:03,460 --> 04:09:06,330 AN INDICATION OF WHERE THEY ARE AS A COMMISSION ON FUTURE 3156 04:09:06,330 --> 04:09:10,134 FUNDING. WE'RE AT A POINT IN OUR PLANNING 3157 04:09:10,134 --> 04:09:14,400 WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO NAIL DOWN WHETHER THEY ARE IN WITH US 3158 04:09:14,400 --> 04:09:19,944 ALL THE WAY, PART WAY, A LITTLE BIT, OR SOMETHING ELSE. 3159 04:09:19,944 --> 04:09:23,130 SO I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO CRAFT THAT LETTER UNDER THE MAYOR'S 3160 04:09:23,130 --> 04:09:28,352 SIGNATURE AND SEND IT TO THE CHAIR OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION. 3161 04:09:28,352 --> 04:09:30,488 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: DO YOU NEED A VOTE FROM THE COMMISSION 3162 04:09:30,488 --> 04:09:32,290 OR CONSENSUS? >>Dave Bullock: IT WOULD BE BEST 3163 04:09:32,290 --> 04:09:35,559 IF WE HAD A MOTION JUST TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SEND A 3164 04:09:35,559 --> 04:09:40,231 LETTER TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO OFFER TO MEET WITH THEM AND 3165 04:09:40,231 --> 04:09:45,680 THEN EXPRESS OUR DESIRE TO KNOW WHERE THEY STAND ON THIS. 3166 04:09:45,680 --> 04:09:46,704 >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. 3167 04:09:46,704 --> 04:09:50,904 >>Vice-Mayor Trice: I'LL SECOND. >>Mayor Alpert: OKAY. 3168 04:09:52,343 --> 04:09:53,311 ANY DISCUSSION? >>Kathy Kelley Ohlrich: I'LL 3169 04:09:53,311 --> 04:09:58,983 JUST SAY THAT YOU AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. 3170 04:09:58,983 --> 04:10:03,783 I AGREE THAT IT'S TIME TO DO THAT. 3171 04:10:03,921 --> 04:10:09,321 >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. IF YOU WILL VOTE, COMMISSIONERS. 3172 04:10:13,297 --> 04:10:16,467 IS THAT YOUR VOTE? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 3173 04:10:16,467 --> 04:10:18,836 >>Dave Bullock: THANK YOU. MY LAST THING, AND WE CAN DO 3174 04:10:18,836 --> 04:10:23,774 THIS AT ANOTHER MEETING. UPDATE YOU ON THE WORK WE'RE 3175 04:10:23,774 --> 04:10:27,210 DOING ON THE VAN WEZEL. WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF 3176 04:10:27,210 --> 04:10:29,280 ENGINEERING. SOME MATERIALS HAVE COME IN. 3177 04:10:29,280 --> 04:10:37,680 SO RATHER THAN DO IT NOW, EVEN THOUGH I DID HAVE NIK STAY, IF 3178 04:10:39,123 --> 04:10:43,427 IT'S OKAY, WE'LL SCHEDULE IT, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE 3179 04:10:43,427 --> 04:10:45,763 HAVE DONE AND WHAT IS YET TO COME. 3180 04:10:45,763 --> 04:10:48,365 THAT'S IT. >>Mayor Alpert: ALL RIGHT. 3181 04:10:48,365 --> 04:10:51,101 SO IF THERE IS -- ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? 3182 04:10:51,101 --> 04:10:53,304 ALL RIGHT. THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED.