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» I'd like to call to order the 2026 27

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budget committee and the urban renewal

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agency budget committee meetings to

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order at 5:30.

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Uh roll call. All counselors are

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present. Council President Miller is

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online virtually. everyone else here.

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I'm joined tonight by our budget

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committee members Michelle Brown, Beth

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Rysky, Teresa Keller, Sandy Wig, and

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Joel Hogan.

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should I go over the staff that is here?

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All department heads are here.

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Um,

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moving forward, we need to nominate a

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budget committee chair.

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Anybody want to make a nomination?

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Anybody interested in running tonight's

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meeting?

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Can't be. Oh, not one of them, but it

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can't be me.

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>> Nominate Joe.

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>> Motion to nominate

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with Joel.

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>> Joel.

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>> Joe.

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>> Mayor Joe.

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>> Is there a second?

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>> Second.

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All those in favor say by saying

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>> I.

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>> Opposed.

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Um, okay. Moving on. Uh, tonight, you

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know, looking at last year's minutes,

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um, okay, we were able to conclude at

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and urban renewal then at 8:46. Rita,

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we did my four year, three other years.

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really stuck on task and went through

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this very quickly and people provided

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questions ahead of time and hopefully we

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can do that again tonight. Um,

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so if there's items in here that we

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don't need to speak a bunch about, we'll

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keep moving on. Uh, but tonight we'd

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like to answer all your questions and

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make a recommendation to council with

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any changes. Um and then council will

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discuss at our next few meetings before

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we vote officially on accepting the

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budget. But uh looking for an approval

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of uh the minutes from May 12th, 2025.

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» So move

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makes a motion to approve when it

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minutes from May 12th, 2025. Second

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Uh all any discussion seems none all in

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favor say by saying I. I

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» Okay, moving on. We are now up to the uh

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received the budget message. City

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manager Ben Bergener with message.

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>> Thank you, Chair Bakus.

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As citizens of Scapus, Mayor Bakus, city

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council members, and the budget

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committee members, it is my pleasure to

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present to you the city of Scapus's

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proposed budget for fiscal year 2027.

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This year's budget allocates funding to

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accomplish many ongoing and new city

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projects, regular operations, and many

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of the city council's adopted

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priorities. Fisc fiscal year 2026 saw

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many accomplishments as the city of

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council and staff work through large

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projects and continue to facilitate

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important conversations internally and

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with the public regarding the direction

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and future of scapoos. One of the major

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ongoing conversations has been centered

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on the future of law enforcement in

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scapuse. Two years ago, after

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considering the varying options and

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after listening to the public, it was

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determined that the city will continue

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to focus on building an appropriately

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staffed and trained internal law

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enforcement team as opposed to

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contracting out the service to another

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agency. To succeed in this goal and to

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attract a competitive professional law

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enforcement team, the city council and

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city staff have been reviewing service

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levels and law enforcement in the

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community, re viewed union contracts,

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and did a deep dive into the general

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fund to better understand what is needed

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in the police department, where the city

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can reduce expenditures, and where the

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city can increase resources to create a

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more sustainable budget to accommodate

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the desired law enforcement service

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levels in Scapus for years to come. The

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city also continues conversations around

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parks to plan for and provide increasing

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park amenities, access, maintenance, and

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programming. Both the police and parks

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departments rely entirely on the general

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fund for their resources to provide

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these valuable services. Major concern

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for cities across Oregon continues to be

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the long-foreseen issues created by

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measures 5 and 50 that restrict property

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tax rates from increasing since the

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1990s, compresses property tax in

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certain circumstances, and restricts a

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property's assessed value from growing

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at the same rate as real market values.

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the state have had to look for

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alternative methods to supplement

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funding for these important services and

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other general fund services as resources

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have not been able to keep up with the

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increased expenses. Scapuse has been

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conservative in its budgeting, has had

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consistent new growth in the city, and

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has been successful in getting grants

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for different projects, which has

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allowed the city to weather the storm

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longer than most cities in the state,

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and has built a healthy fund balance in

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the general fund of just over $6

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million.

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become apparent that these issues, the

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issues of measure 5 and 50 are quickly

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catching up with the city of Scapuse.

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in that the city brings in each year no

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longer cover the cost of law enforcement

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personnel at the current levels of

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service desired. This is important to

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recognize because anything spent beyond

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property taxes and associated police

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revenues on police operations takes away

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from the other services the city

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currently provides or would like to

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provide with other general fund

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resources. For example, park amenities,

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maintenance, economic development

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grants, recreation program, events, etc.

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operational deficit. This means that

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even if the city doesn't allocate

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resources for projects, capital

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expenditures, and other variable

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expenditures, the city will still chip

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away at the fund balance each year for

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regular operations and will eventually

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deplete the general fund. This will

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happen more quickly when projects,

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capital expenditures, and other variable

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expenditures not covered by grants or

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other funding sources are planned and

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budgeted for. The story of the general

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fund is not completely bleak. There

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continues to be new growth and

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opportunities coming to Scapuse that

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will continue to offset some of this

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deficit. And there are funding

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strategies utilized by other Oregon

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communities that the city of Scapuse has

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not implemented to date that will

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increase the sustainability of the

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general fund. The city council's goal

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too of their annual priorities is focus

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on sustainable finances for these and

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other services. The city will continue

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to discuss and monitor the general fund

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closely and work through the varying

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different different strategies to

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provide additional sustainable funding

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mechanisms for the long-term prosperity

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of Scapus. An effort to avoid reducing

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important services with as minimal

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fiscal impact on the community as

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possible. The city has continued to

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utilize grants to multiply the impact of

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city funds, reduce impact on the budget,

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and bring new amenities to the city.

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Over the past two years, the city

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pursued over $3 million worth of grants

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and donations for park projects. These

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through these efforts, the city received

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award donation uh award notifications

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for $1,366,500

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in grant funds and a generous donation

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of 1.91 acres for parkland. As the city

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moves forward with the final designs of

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these construct and construction, the

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community will receive will have

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received over $4 million in park

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improvements which let with less than

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half of the cost coming from the city

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reserves. The grants described above

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associated park projects and the

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potential land purchase are the most

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notable changes in the general funds

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budget from fiscal year 2026. As noted

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earlier, these planned projects will

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reduce the general funds reserves since

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they are beyond the operational deficit

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already causing reductions. While this

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year will show a notable decrease in

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general fund reserves, these are

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one-time projects and the near-term

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future fiscal periods will not reflect

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an equivalent reduction without the city

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planning for and approving additional

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projects. Outside of the general fund,

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you will notice the city's funds are

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healthy and not facing concerning

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operational deficits. Any spending that

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utilizes fund reserves is due to planned

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projects or capital expenditures, most

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of which are being paid for through

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grants, loans, or other outside funding

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sources. Major ongoing projects are the

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improvements, Miller B, the salt well,

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and the 50-year plan. Additionally, the

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city has budgeted for the design and

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construction of important sidewalk,

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storm water, and street improvements.

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proposed to be less than the fiscal year

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2026 budget, largely due to wrapping up

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se several large system improvements in

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our water and sewer departments. The

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city's full-time equivalent for staff

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will increase a few positions to 43.5

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full-time equivalents, two of which are

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supported by grants and/or outside

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contributions. These additional

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positions will bring additional economic

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development support, public safety, and

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park and recreational opportunities. The

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city has also budgeted for 3% cost of

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living adjustment. Scapuse has a bright

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future both fiscally and with the many

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exciting projects, programming, and

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amenities planned for or are already

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underway that will further enhance the

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sustainability and livability of this

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wonderful community. I would like to

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thank financial director Carol Halner

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and and the city department heads, the

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city council, and the budget committee

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for their tireless work already done and

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the work that will continue to be done

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in preparing for and implementing the

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fiscal year 2027 budget for the city of

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Scapuse. Sincerely Benjamin Berner, city

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questions that can move forward.

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>> Okay. Um there's any questions on tab

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» Mr. Mayor.

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>> I do have a question on tab two. going

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back um I think we need I think we need

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uh where it says which was incorporated

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after that

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in 1925

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um the city was one of 25 founding

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members of William Gordon cities so

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that's not you know the fact that we

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were have a death population at that

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time was about 800 people Yeah. Yeah. We

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were one of those 25 founders of the

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League of Golden Cities and of which uh

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mayor I mean manager Gner received a a

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noteworthy plot for that big big meeting

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in the title.

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>> Where where was that? Um

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>> page four halfway down right after

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Stampoo was incorporated in 1921.

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>> Yeah. Right before the fire in 1930, we

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were one of the founding members of the

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League of Organiz

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So we got ourselves mayor manager

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Bernard received a 100redy year flat

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for that number of the event. Anyway, I

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think we

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» uh council president Miller.

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>> Yeah, going forward. Um, if you guys can

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refer to uh the pages by page number

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instead of sections, um, that would be

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very helpful for me because I'm looking

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at the digital copy that does not have

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the tabs.

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>> So, as every page just keeps going to

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the line. Okay.

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>> Thank you.

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>> You're welcome.

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>> I should have sent the list.

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>> Okay. So, um, as we make that, I I

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agree. I I'm with adding that as a

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founding member of League of Oregon

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Cities

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with them daily. Um, we had the budget

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message, a little bit about Scapoo. Our

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financial policies, no changes to that.

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Our policies, we've stuck with the same.

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>> It's virtually the same. We took out I

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took out a few things that we just are

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not doing anymore because basically it

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was in the investment policy

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>> something

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ago. We went through and developed this

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as our policy kind of.

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>> Yeah.

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>> And that where is that conservative

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policies kind of built into this

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>> change it maybe at some time we can

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review if needed.

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Um

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then tab six, page 35 is your general

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all funds combined summary citywide

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financial overview.

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Um

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I'm going to move on to in our budget

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public hearing state revenue sharing.

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This is where we get funding from the

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state um for various things. I think it

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includes property taxes, everything,

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right? Or is it just the syntax stuff?

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Is it

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>> It's just the syntax stuff. The um the

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cigarette tax, the liquor tax, marijuana

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tax, revenue sharing tax.

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>> Does anybody have a reason um to not

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accept recommend accepting those to the

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council? I think that's just a

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formality. So, I would entertain a

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motion to accept state revenue sharing.

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Santiago move to accept

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pay revenue sharing. Um it's a public

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hearing. Do I need to open a public

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hearing? See if there's anybody else

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from the public that wishes to discuss.

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Being none, we'll close the public

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hearing and then I accept the motion by

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councelor Santiago to accept state

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revenue sharing. Any second?

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>> Second. Any

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more discussion?

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Seeing none, all those in favor state by

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saying I.

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>> I.

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>> Opposed?

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Motion carried.

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>> Any changes to our summary personnel

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services page 40, section 7.

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>> If we could go back actually page 38.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Uh, and section six. It looks like we're

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maybe missing a row of digits in the

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upper part. Total expenditure tenure

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history.

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I get cuts off there.

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>> I'm sorry. I didn't quite hear you. I'm

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sorry.

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>> Oh, okay. I'll fix that. Um I know the

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mayor mentioned something about that.

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I'll fix that for the final budget. I'll

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fix that chart. You'll find that

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sometimes on those tenure charts,

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they're almost too big to fit on the

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page. I should probably screenshot them

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instead of putting them in as tables,

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but okay.

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>> We'll have a couple others if we see

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them know them.

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We're missing a digit.

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>> Okay, that we're good for six. Moving on

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to summary personal services page 40.

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You said there's no changes.

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kind of briefly looking through.

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» Well, my question I did have I guess is

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where is Sierra listed? What position is

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that?

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>> Yeah, she's the economic development

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specialist.

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>> So, on page 42

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development specialist is one of the new

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FPE,

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>> right? Another one is a school resource

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officer. We got confirmation from the

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school that they put aside some money

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for that as well. Um that's they'll be

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discussed a little bit later.

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>> Okay.

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>> Those are the two grant funded

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positions.

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>> When you mentioned a couple new FTE,

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those are the ones you're referring to

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and we'll get into those on how they're

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funded and

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council president Miller.

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>> Thank you, Mayor. So, I'm looking at

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page 42, which is the list of or it's

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the city of Scapu's compensation

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schedule with the different

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classifications listed. So, I just want

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to clarify because in the opening budget

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message, it said that there were just a

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couple of positions.

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Um, so it looks like from what I can

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glean from this page though that there's

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an additional there's addition of an

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associate planner SRO economic

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development specialists and then it

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looks like um, city manager if you can

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clarify this too and maybe now is not

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the time but it looks like there's

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potentially classification changes with

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the utility parks workers to utility

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worker

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>> there. There was like I can do it. Okay.

439
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>> Yeah, we did make a change um in the

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middle of this budget year to you know

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agreed with the union that we split up

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utility parks workers and utility

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workers because they really are very

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different jobs. The utility workers

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still work in the parks but they're

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classified and have a different wage

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scale. So that's why you see the utility

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workers down at the bottom. And Dave, do

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you want to say anything more to that if

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you I think that kind of explains it.

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So,

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>> no, I'm I'm just seeing this, too. Um,

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>> that's right. They don't get these

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pages, I guess. Well,

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>> but

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>> Okay.

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>> Yeah. So, it's basically reclassifying

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existing personnel we have.

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>> Okay. Thank Thank you for that. So, for

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the record, can we please just get a

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clarification straight uh

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straightforward statement about which

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positions are being added for this

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fiscal year?

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We do show four uh 39.5 43.5.

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So

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>> right there is the um school resource

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officer, there's an additional patrol

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officer, there is the um yeah, economic

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development specialist and we added a

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parks

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um position.

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>> Okay.

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>> So the parks pos so what are what are

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the two that are funded by grants? the

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economic development specialist and then

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are we referring to

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>> resource officer?

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>> Okay. All right. So, the the others are

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coming out of general fund then,

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>> right? The patrol officer is based off

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of funding. That's not a we're not

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something we're hiring right off the

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bat, but due to our conversations, it's

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just put in the budget, but it's not

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something that's out for hire at this

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time. It's a it's a placeholder

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>> um depending on what we're able to

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figure out with the um potential funding

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strategies.

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Um and then the parks one was an

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adjustment of a well there's like I said

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there's a couple classifications so it's

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kind of mixed in there a little bit. Um

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they were already having utility workers

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come over and help with parks and we

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just kind of shore that up to um

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actually make it a parks position as

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opposed to a hybrid position.

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>> But there is one additional parks

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utility work somewhere in those numbers.

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There's one additional

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>> there are there are mistakes that we

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we've had utility threes through this

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whole time span. So there's there's

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errors here.

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>> Yeah. My my

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>> that's why it's catching me off guard

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because this isn't right. There's

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>> the 43.5 is correct. The new one going

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forward.

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>> The number is correct. And Dave I last

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week we didn't kept on to go through it

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because I don't know who's a one two and

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a three. Our records I use the records

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we have in spring in the system.

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So,

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>> by the adoption of this, we can get it

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correct.

520
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>> We'll fix it. We'll fix it on the on the

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pilot. I'll send it out to you.

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>> We'll get through it as we get to the

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budget. As far as you know, there's no

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additional workers in our

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>> public work. No.

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>> So, the one definitely economic

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development specialist, a patrol officer

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that would take our normal 12 to 13 and

529
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the SRO would then take it to 14.

530
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>> No, the SRO was included. Uh well, yeah.

531
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Did we go to 14 on that for this year? I

532
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don't remember say 13 14.

533
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>> Yeah. So, I went to 14 as a budgeted

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number.

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>> The the one thing for public works I

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will note though is that there are

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classification classification changes.

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The treatment leads is a new position,

539
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but those were promotions within. So, we

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didn't add bodies, but we did reclassify

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and restructure.

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» Do we just curious, do we know what the

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net effect is on these changes? Is it um

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is it less of a cost or does it go up a

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little bit because it looks like the as

546
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pointed out already the wage scale looks

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like it starts out a little bit higher

548
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>> for public works it's a wash I can't

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speak to any other department

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>> okay thank you

551
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>> with the retirement of Daryl and the

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restructuring it evened out

553
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>> okay thank you Dave

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» uh Councelor Miller I'll point out on

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page 35 it does look like personnel is

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up about $600,000

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for this year. So, if you're looking at

558
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:40,630
overall personnel costs

559
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,240
and we'll get into those as we go

560
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,400
through each department. Um, okay. Well,

561
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,799
we we'll start tab 8 page 43 general

562
00:20:50,799 --> 00:20:53,600
fund. Carol, are you taking on general

563
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,159
fund?

564
00:20:54,159 --> 00:20:54,880
>> Yes.

565
00:20:54,880 --> 00:21:00,240
>> Information. Go ahead. So, and I can go through this as much or as little as

566
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,799
you want me to. Obviously, the general

567
00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:05,520
fund has not changed. It still has, you

568
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,799
know, the departments that you're

569
00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:09,520
looking at up here, the administration,

570
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,679
police, planning, municipal court, and

571
00:21:11,679 --> 00:21:12,320
parks and grounds.

572
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,240
>> I definitely focus on really any changes

573
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,600
you see changes. Okay.

574
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,000
>> Anything that you think stands out if

575
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,200
anybody has any questions?

576
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,200
>> Some of the big things you'll see are on

577
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,240
page 44, uh, which has the whole general

578
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,320
fund. I have not done this in the past

579
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,919
but I wanted you to be able to see the

580
00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:30,720
revenues and expenses al together when

581
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,520
they're split out in the next sections.

582
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,120
Um the you know that you will notice

583
00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:39,440
that you know the there is some

584
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,440
additional intergovernmental revenue

585
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,440
which we can talk about in a few minutes

586
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,400
here. Uh the big changes you'll see is

587
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,840
administration has got a bump in the

588
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,720
expenses and that's partly due to uh

589
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,919
purchase of property that Ben can talk

590
00:21:55,919 --> 00:22:00,159
about and if he wants to um the police

591
00:22:00,159 --> 00:22:02,000
are pretty much they're not that much.

592
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,760
It's a couple hundred thousand. Of

593
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,039
course that adds a school resource

594
00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:08,080
officer and I don't have a list in the

595
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,320
revenues of how much revenue that is

596
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,400
because it just got approved. So, it's

597
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,159
kind of brand new uh to us. So, so that

598
00:22:16,159 --> 00:22:18,240
because a police officer ends up costing

599
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,720
us approximately $160,000

600
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,559
with wages and benefits and that's, you

601
00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:26,880
know, half of that's paid by the school,

602
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,360
then obviously that's a good resource

603
00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:32,480
for us, but um but that does increase

604
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,559
it. The increase in parks and grounds is

605
00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:36,960
really the uh spending the money we got

606
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,520
from the grants that we got this last

607
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,200
year and we'll get that as we spend it.

608
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,720
Um

609
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,559
and there is a the 3% bump every and

610
00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:50,559
keep in mind that everything that we

611
00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:53,760
have to spy also is going up too and

612
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,000
sometimes they aren't limited to the 3%

613
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,360
that we get as our increase in taxes.

614
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:03,520
So, um, planning is really it's down

615
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,200
from last year because we did not buy

616
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,440
the building that we we talked about

617
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,480
last year and got approved last year.

618
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,840
Um, the and the non-EP departmental

619
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,320
transfers that did go up, but that's a

620
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,000
transfer to go from the general fund to

621
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,120
the new fund

622
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:26,480
17 you'll see in your book for the uh

623
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,440
the Columbia Business Alliance. Now that

624
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,320
is money that doesn't come out of the

625
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,480
general fund. It's money we have

626
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,000
received this year because when we put

627
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,400
the new fund in or when we got we took

628
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,640
over the agency you know the first of

629
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,320
the year we ended up getting money in

630
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,480
from St. Helens and from a grant and you

631
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,720
I'm sure Lori will talk more about that

632
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,120
but we had to collect it into the

633
00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:57,280
general fund. We couldn't put it in a

634
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,120
separate fund because then we couldn't

635
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:02,480
spend it and pay for our employee who's

636
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,559
now being funded in the general fund,

637
00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:07,679
but we'll move entirely over to the new

638
00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:10,480
fund next year. So, I'm sorry that was

639
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,080
probably way more complicated than you

640
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,200
wanted it to be. But it's the transfer.

641
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,960
We have to transfer the money. It's

642
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,600
whatever money we have left over. It's

643
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,400
no money out of the general fund. It's

644
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,360
money that we have received this year.

645
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:29,120
and have not spent this year, that'll go

646
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:32,320
over to the new fund and become their

647
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,640
beginning fund balance.

648
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,400
So, you'll see that estimate over on

649
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,510
their side, too.

650
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,039
Hopefully, that made some sort of sense.

651
00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:44,640
So, okay,

652
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,919
>> Carol, on page 44, I think you got a

653
00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:48,960
two.

654
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,520
>> I'm sorry.

655
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,000
>> On page 44, I think you got a typo or

656
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,159
two.

657
00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:57,679
uh third line down uh swim pool res

658
00:24:57,679 --> 00:24:59,679
should be reserved I think.

659
00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:01,120
>> Yes.

660
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:04,720
>> And then the the figure 48,331

661
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,760
is is uh not the same as later on where

662
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,320
it talks about transferring $9,800 into

663
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,279
the

664
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:14,159
>> Oh, okay. You're talking about the 98 to

665
00:25:14,159 --> 00:25:16,640
$97,000.

666
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,039
Yeah. The this is totally separate. the

667
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:22,880
swim pool reserve in a a part of getting

668
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,799
rid of the pool fund which we're going

669
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:29,279
to spend about 10 seconds on um is part

670
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:32,400
of that is there is money and I had to

671
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,919
work with the auditors over the last

672
00:25:33,919 --> 00:25:36,880
couple of years there's money that is

673
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,640
restricted and we cannot spend it on

674
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,400
anything except for a pool. So that is

675
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,320
that $48,000.

676
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,960
We actually took that to make it more

677
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,200
transparent this year because in the

678
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,279
past it was just sitting in a holding

679
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:56,480
account uh really doing nothing and it

680
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,400
had never been recognized as revenue or

681
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,559
anything in the in our books. So we made

682
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:06,640
that much more transparent this year and

683
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,600
you'll see this now pretty much forever.

684
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,799
you know, we're trying to figure out the

685
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:13,200
best way to present it in the budget,

686
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,640
but that money is going to stay there.

687
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,039
It's money we cannot spend. So, it

688
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:20,480
basically is like a restricted

689
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,120
>> still a little bit murky because back in

690
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,679
2020 when we bought the Buxom property,

691
00:26:25,679 --> 00:26:28,960
we leveraged the pool uh to purchase

692
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,679
that

693
00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:30,320
>> and so

694
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,520
>> part of it part of it

695
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,440
>> and so so that that's where that that

696
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,720
gets kind of muddy.

697
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,559
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. because we now my

698
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:38,000
understanding and I was not here then

699
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,240
but my understanding is we spent when we

700
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,520
bought Grehorn that we spent the money

701
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,520
we could out of that pool fund and

702
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,679
bought that but there has always been

703
00:26:49,679 --> 00:26:52,400
this 40 $48,000

704
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,720
that was restricted so we could not

705
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,880
spend the

706
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,440
>> footnote I agree yeah yeah

707
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,039
>> I think those were donations that were

708
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:02,640
stipulated we could never be spent on

709
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,480
anything else but

710
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,360
>> yeah I'll I can put note on there.

711
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:09,039
>> And reminder, everybody speak in the

712
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:12,000
microphone so we can record it here.

713
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,440
>> I have a question.

714
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,480
>> Councelor Santiago,

715
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,400
>> can uh Carol, can you just uh tell us

716
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,279
what exactly is a non-dump departmental

717
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:20,880
transfer?

718
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,960
I know it's cut off, but it's transfer.

719
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,279
>> Okay. A non-dep departmental transfer.

720
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:27,679
We have two. And actually, that's in in

721
00:27:27,679 --> 00:27:29,360
another section back here

722
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:31,600
>> that um that I was going to talk about

723
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,120
those because they're listed

724
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:36,960
specifically in uh section

725
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,720
>> 14 or whatever it is. Um and those are

726
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,320
one is the transfer to Watts House. We

727
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,200
have a $10,000 transfer to Watts house

728
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,240
>> and we have the 97,000 or whatever it

729
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,120
turns out to be

730
00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:51,919
>> 919

731
00:27:51,919 --> 00:27:55,600
>> 90 uh to 91,700

732
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,600
and it's not going to end up being that.

733
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,039
I don't know what it's going to be

734
00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:01,360
because we can't predict right now how

735
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:02,960
much that's going to be. It'll be

736
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,880
whatever's left over. Well, we predicted

737
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,279
it but we may have predicted it wrong.

738
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:07,600
>> Sure.

739
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,279
>> That will go towards our economic

740
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:10,320
development group.

741
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,919
>> The economic development fund.

742
00:28:11,919 --> 00:28:13,600
>> Okay. That's what those are.

743
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,120
>> And it's titled non-EP departmental

744
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:16,399
because it's not coming from a specific

745
00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:18,080
department. It's just a general fund

746
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,520
because it's not the police or the

747
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,360
administration or anybody send spending

748
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:24,000
money over to that fund. It's just a

749
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,200
nonpart

750
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,000
>> that could be spent.

751
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,320
>> It's being it's just being transferred.

752
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,440
It's money that was in the general fund

753
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,799
is being transferred over, but it's

754
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:34,480
titled weird just because of where it's

755
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,640
coming from. Not that it's not going to

756
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,520
a different department.

757
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,279
>> Okay. Thank And we did something similar

758
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,600
this year with lots house when we, you

759
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,799
know, um, did work over there last year.

760
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,990
So,

761
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,120
okay. And revenues really did not change

762
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,640
that much. There's not much to talk

763
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,080
about. Uh, the if anybody has any

764
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:56,799
questions, let me know.

765
00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:58,640
>> Do you expect any of the new houses to

766
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,399
be on this year's tax?

767
00:29:00,399 --> 00:29:02,320
>> We do not. That doesn't mean they won't,

768
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,159
but there may be one or two, but I bet

769
00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:05,520
there's not because they have to

770
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,919
basically be completed

771
00:29:07,919 --> 00:29:09,440
There are a few in Dutch Canyon being

772
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,440
lived in right now. Few.

773
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,679
>> You may have a few of those.

774
00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:16,080
>> There may be a few, but I I know that

775
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,000
from what I've heard there won't be

776
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:18,480
many.

777
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,480
>> I believe the cut off is January.

778
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:20,960
>> Yeah.

779
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,399
>> Before it will hit the tax roll this

780
00:29:22,399 --> 00:29:23,760
year. That doesn't come out till

781
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,840
October. So,

782
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,320
>> so

783
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,520
>> it's quite a delay.

784
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,320
>> So, the tax increase is mostly the 3%

785
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,080
that we can kind of count on. That's

786
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:32,720
about it.

787
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,799
>> That's about it right now. That's about

788
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:38,000
it. Now, on page 47, you'll see

789
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,120
intergovernmental revenue and there is a

790
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,080
the park grant the balance and then it

791
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,520
goes down because we didn't get it or

792
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,320
didn't didn't spend it. So, and then it

793
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,240
comes back up. So, that's basically the

794
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,120
park grants. So, that's why that has

795
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,200
gotten higher.

796
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,120
And

797
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,200
>> so, the $1 million grab horn grant we

798
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,640
bud put in last year, but we didn't

799
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,919
spend it. So, we moved over to this

800
00:30:01,919 --> 00:30:02,559
year.

801
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:05,200
>> Yeah. And maybe the playground grant is

802
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,279
probably in there as well spent this

803
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:08,480
year.

804
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,480
>> Yeah, we'll receive it because that

805
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,720
those grants we get as we receive the as

806
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,880
we do the work. So since we hadn't

807
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,200
started those projects, we did not

808
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,679
receive any of that money. So that's why

809
00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:22,240
it b that bounces.

810
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,440
There's not anything else that really

811
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,919
bounced much. Um the charges for service

812
00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:30,480
did bounce a few years ago, but uh that was because we did some accounting

813
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,630
changes.

814
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,039
and transfers are going down in the

815
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:39,600
general fund and the reason for that is

816
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,080
Ben is really working on the on making

817
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,559
things more transparent. So we're

818
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:46,960
instead of in the old days there were

819
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,120
lots of transfers that were transferred

820
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,440
to the general fund and then the general

821
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,120
fund paid for things like for things

822
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,200
like software you know it's very

823
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,720
expensive and the if you transfer the

824
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,960
money it comes out of the other funds

825
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,760
but you can't really see where it goes.

826
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,919
Now, we actually are taking those

827
00:31:05,919 --> 00:31:08,880
expenses and splitting them up as we get

828
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,919
the bills. So, they're in the individual

829
00:31:11,919 --> 00:31:14,480
funds budgets. So, their budgets have

830
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,640
gone up and the general fund has gone

831
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,039
down because we're not paying to all of

832
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:20,960
those and we're not receiving the money

833
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,080
for it. So,

834
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,480
>> we have the one time in 25 a big kind of

835
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,320
kick in the property tax with Cascade

836
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,640
Tissues. We had a clawback on some

837
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,200
property tax maybe 500,000 or so.

838
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,880
>> It was about 500,000. That's why that

839
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,720
one was higher a one time thing

840
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,720
enterprise. Yeah.

841
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:43,830
>> Yeah.

842
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,120
» But yeah, we'll dig into these further

843
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,720
with each department as well.

844
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,519
>> Yeah.

845
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,600
>> Any more questions this on the general

846
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,000
fund expenditures or we get into each

847
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,320
individual department?

848
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,600
I I do have a question on page 43 um

849
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,519
about the $850,000 to an unappropriated

850
00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,519
ending fund balance funds cannot be

851
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:05,200
utilized during upcoming fiscal year. Is

852
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,279
that going to be covered

853
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:10,159
at a in a later chapter here or can you

854
00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:11,840
share a little more information? Is that

855
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,279
money that's pre-committed to something

856
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:18,310
else in 27 and 28?

857
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,919
» Are you looking at the budget note? It's

858
00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:21,840
asking about the 850 un

859
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,880
>> unappropriated funds for

860
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,320
>> unappropriated. We just don't have it

861
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,679
appropriated towards anything else. It's

862
00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:28,880
basically saying we will not be spending

863
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,000
that money this year.

864
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:30,480
>> Sorry. Yeah.

865
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,120
>> For future years,

866
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,480
>> but it's not pre-committed to something

867
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:32,880
else.

868
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,960
>> No, it's just we didn't have in our

869
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,640
budget spend. You could say it's saving

870
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,399
for a future year. It's saving for the

871
00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:39,760
first part of the year so that we have,

872
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,600
you know, funds to pay for the different

873
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,600
services we have until taxes come in.

874
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,960
But it's just it's money that's set

875
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,799
aside for pretty much next year, not to

876
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:48,480
be spent this upcoming fiscal year.

877
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,640
>> My apologies. I guess that comes so

878
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,640
logically to me because it's it's kind

879
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,480
of since we don't get taxes until

880
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,440
November, you know, generally we try and

881
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,200
leave a couple of months worth of uh

882
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,480
money in the general fund so that we've

883
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,640
got money to pay until the tax money

884
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,000
starts coming in in November. So yeah,

885
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,399
that cannot be spent this year at all.

886
00:33:12,399 --> 00:33:16,240
It's it's locked in. So I apologize.

887
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,840
pulling it out of savings and putting it

888
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,360
back in your checking account.

889
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,630
>> Okay.

890
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:31,760
» Um can I ask a question following that that um so when you set it aside

891
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,279
where do you put it to to increase

892
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,519
interest? Well, the mini the money sits

893
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:41,279
in our our LGIP where we where we do

894
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:43,519
pretty much all our investing at this

895
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:45,919
point is we use the local government

896
00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:50,880
investment pool state resource and they

897
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,880
store it. Their interest has been

898
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,440
actually very good. It's been over 4%

899
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:57,919
invested.

900
00:33:57,919 --> 00:34:01,440
>> Yeah, it's been very good interest and so it sits there and collects money

901
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,480
right every month. safely, not high risk

902
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,760
from funding, but

903
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,240
>> right.

904
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,879
>> I hope.

905
00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:12,000
>> Okay, moving on to section nine and

906
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,679
administration department page 51.

907
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:19,040
>> That's still me. Sorry about that. So,

908
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,119
>> anything any highlights or changes or

909
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:24,159
things you think are not?

910
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,879
>> There really is not much. Um, you know,

911
00:34:26,879 --> 00:34:29,679
we don't have, you know, we do have, uh,

912
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,240
the one project with, you know, we don't

913
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:35,599
plan on having doing any building uh or

914
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:38,079
capital projects. Uh, there isn't

915
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:39,760
anything that's really out of the

916
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,800
ordinary. Our budget is higher because

917
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,599
there is a $700,000

918
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:47,919
land purchase in there,

919
00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:49,679
>> right? As discussed with the council,

920
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,919
that will be purchased in July. As soon

921
00:34:51,919 --> 00:34:53,440
as that closes, we bring that forward.

922
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,359
So it's it's more earmarked to until the

923
00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:58,720
deal is finalized. Um but that would be

924
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:04,390
that price range that we're looking in.

925
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,640
» So that is that is the bump in that

926
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,800
particular budget.

927
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,920
>> And again the FTE I mean it's just um

928
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,920
the assistant to city manager planner

929
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,680
NJ's position you kind of change a

930
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,119
little bit of where get the funds come

931
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:20,800
from. Yes, he's paid this year mostly

932
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,480
out of piss.

933
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,280
>> Um,

934
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,720
>> right. The idea was moving it more

935
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:26,560
towards recreation type things. So, it'

936
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,760
be more out of administration compared

937
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,440
to where it was before. So, that gave a

938
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:36,710
little bump there.

939
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,680
people where it says insurance. Why

940
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:45,990
change?

941
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,040
» Insurance has gotten very very

942
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,400
expensive.

943
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,240
>> This goes way down.

944
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:53,760
This goes to those transfers we were

945
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,079
talking about earlier where they used to

946
00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:57,760
put transfer from every department into

947
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,040
the general fund and then we did one

948
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,359
lump sum payment for insurance but now

949
00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:04,079
those specific insurance car uh costs

950
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,720
per fund per department are spread out

951
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:07,920
so we actually know what it costs for

952
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,920
that department not just the total by

953
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,839
itself. So it's more like thinking of

954
00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:13,359
each of these as individual businesses.

955
00:36:13,359 --> 00:36:14,640
How much does it cost to provide

956
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,640
insurance in the water department? It

957
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,720
will be in their fund as opposed to all

958
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:20,960
in one lump sum here instead. So that's

959
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,480
why it reduced here. But those will go

960
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,320
up in you'll see that in each individual

961
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,560
fund those numbers will have increased

962
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,560
>> because we actually made that change you

963
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,720
know last year you can see it went from

964
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:32,640
like $320,000

965
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,680
to 18,000 and that's I can see that that

966
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,280
yeah I should have highlighted and

967
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,240
pointed that out because it used to be

968
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,560
but that's is what the insurance and

969
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,880
that's liability and property insurance

970
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,560
with the city doesn't include health

971
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,880
insurance. That's just liability and

972
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,240
property insurance uh for the city and

973
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,640
the general fund was paying all that and

974
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,680
then doing transfers to to cover it. So

975
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,680
yeah, good catch. I should have pointed

976
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:09,670
that out.

977
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,160
» Any other questions for administration?

978
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,520
>> I have a question real quick.

979
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,760
>> Yes, councelor President. Go ahead. So

980
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,680
in regards to associating the insurance

981
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,760
premiums to specific departments, are we

982
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,280
doing the same thing with legal and

983
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,280
those other professional services?

984
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,560
>> Yes, we are.

985
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:24,880
>> Okay.

986
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,920
>> Yeah. Legal and software, everything.

987
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,520
You know, we're everything we can. I

988
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,280
think we may still have couple little

989
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,920
ones left, but anything that we can

990
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,599
easily

991
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,000
charge out to the department. The things

992
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,760
we are not doing are are like um council

993
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,440
expenses

994
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,280
um and

995
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,880
um you know little bit bank fees, couple

996
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,119
of things that are small and just be

997
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,920
more wieldy to make those changes. I

998
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,680
think we've got three things that we're

999
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,440
actually having the departments transfer

1000
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,640
us the money for.

1001
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,320
>> Question there though. I don't see any

1002
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,280
legal fees in administration. So

1003
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,520
>> well it's in it's in contractual. So you

1004
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,880
don't have the um

1005
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,400
>> contract.

1006
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,040
>> Yeah, the there is a line.

1007
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,200
>> Yes, contractual professionals. All and

1008
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,880
that that includes a lot of things.

1009
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,760
>> That's the C school district that

1010
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,079
>> Okay, that is the um

1011
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:21,200
>> construction.

1012
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,359
>> Yeah, the construction excise tax.

1013
00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:25,040
That's something that when somebody

1014
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,599
builds a house, you know, single family

1015
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:29,280
home, I believe it's only single family

1016
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,240
homes that there is money that they have

1017
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,720
to pay towards that. It is a straight

1018
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:36,800
pass through. If we get the money, we

1019
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,800
pay it through to the school district

1020
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,599
the end of the year. If we don't get if

1021
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:42,800
they we don't get any through the

1022
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,440
building permits, uh we don't pay them

1023
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,440
anything. So, you know, there is some

1024
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,760
this year that we will be paying, but

1025
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,839
that's a that is a straight pastor. It's

1026
00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:54,960
not revenue or expenses really for the

1027
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,510
general fund.

1028
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,880
» Okay. So, looks like

1029
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,359
very it's lower than last year minus the

1030
00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:08,000
potential purchase

1031
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,200
down. Okay,

1032
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:17,190
good. Uh, police department.

1033
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:17,839
» No pressure.

1034
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:18,640
>> Any questions?

1035
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,800
>> Chief,

1036
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,359
>> such a small subject,

1037
00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:24,640
>> small percentage.

1038
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,960
>> All right. Thank you very much. Um, Mr.

1039
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,680
chair also my fellow staff members also

1040
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,520
budget committee too as well before I

1041
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,200
begin Mr. Mayor Mr. Chair, may I hand

1042
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,040
out some documentation? Is that okay?

1043
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,430
>> I will.

1044
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,119
» I'm going to pass it out.

1045
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:44,960
>> So, uh, good afternoon everybody. Uh,

1046
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,480
thank you very much for being here. Um,

1047
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,520
look forward to entertaining questions

1048
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,800
you might have about your police

1049
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,480
department. Uh, just a couple of big

1050
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,680
things that you'll see in our budget

1051
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,680
that I would like to highlight. Um, some

1052
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,040
of the big things are going to be the

1053
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,880
potential proposal of a drug detection

1054
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,440
K-9 program. Um that's going to be

1055
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,119
associated uh document you're being

1056
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:05,520
handed up about right now by our chair.

1057
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,079
Also to adding

1058
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:11,119
>> Thanks also adding a um detective

1059
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:14,480
position and also the additional uh

1060
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,280
procurement of officer survival and for

1061
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,280
um equipment such as body armor and

1062
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,760
things that are ple rows. Uh currently

1063
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,480
right now we have 11 officers altogether

1064
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,880
um to include myself uh three sergeants

1065
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,640
which takes one s one position takes

1066
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,240
place of lieutenant and also seven

1067
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:31,920
patrol officers out of seven patrol

1068
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,320
officers three are actively in training

1069
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:39,440
um right now. So with that being said um

1070
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,800
the what I just hand out right there is

1071
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,480
just for the drug detection K9 program

1072
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,920
to answer a couple questions which I'll

1073
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,240
love to entertain. Uh this is probably

1074
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:47,520
one of the biggest thing that'll be new

1075
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,599
to the police department and this kind

1076
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:51,680
of comes from almost two years of um

1077
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,040
going back and forth with this to see

1078
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,960
what will best benefit our community and

1079
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,240
some of the things that could possibly

1080
00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,599
benefit such as um just getting drugs

1081
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:02,000
out of community. Uh, Highway 30 is a

1082
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,119
big inter uh, interstate uh, sorry,

1083
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,200
state route that's used to transfer

1084
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,119
drugs and stuff obviously throughout our

1085
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:11,599
county and also to Washington state and

1086
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:14,720
just being more um, able to help uh,

1087
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:16,160
prevent hopefully overdose and things

1088
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,920
are happening in our community as Keptus

1089
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,920
County grows. Uh, there on the right

1090
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,440
side, if you look at the document, if I

1091
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,040
put your attention to that, these are

1092
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,800
some of the initial costs for that. Um,

1093
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,839
the dog itself will cost roughly 14,000,

1094
00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:31,680
but I also cruise $100 worth of

1095
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,920
training. That's a onetime cost for us.

1096
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Um, and the food itself is just

1097
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,800
estimated to be roughly about 1 $1,800

1098
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,440
uh for the for Emily and just going down

1099
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,440
there. Things such as um aids to help

1100
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,200
train the dog on drug and such that

1101
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,760
nature. Uh, but we have tried to reduce

1102
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,200
cost with the police department. But a

1103
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,160
couple things um one we had a a car that

1104
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,839
was donated by our partners at the

1105
00:41:53,839 --> 00:41:55,599
police department which was great um

1106
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:57,200
cost in the city I believe maybe at the

1107
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,119
most a dollar alltogether that'll be

1108
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:01,760
used for position if approved and we

1109
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,240
also have potential resources where we

1110
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:06,560
can have the food be donated from a

1111
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,400
local store um Wilco and I collect

1112
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,280
information from um Oregon Association

1113
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,960
of K9 Police officers to get more

1114
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,240
information about how we can reduce the

1115
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,240
cost and annual costs and this what I

1116
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:19,920
have Here you look at the very bottom of

1117
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,720
it estimated more than likely it's going

1118
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:25,359
to be roughly 4,675 annually after

1119
00:42:25,359 --> 00:42:28,960
initial startup cost and I said $7,000

1120
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,720
the high end that will include any

1121
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:32,720
possible in unanticipated additional

1122
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:35,760
resources equipment and also um veterary

1123
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,079
bills that might happen but annually I

1124
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:39,599
talked to some partners here in Columbia

1125
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:42,400
County it's about $300 a month for

1126
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,680
annual check for the veterary um cost

1127
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,880
for that. So moving on, also SRO

1128
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,480
position. It was already talked about

1129
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,920
this school. We haven't had anything

1130
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,640
official yet, but we had a conversation.

1131
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,920
I guess just out of curiosity.

1132
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,560
>> Yes.

1133
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,200
>> Where where is the dog housed off duty?

1134
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,280
>> I'll be housed with an officer who's

1135
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,079
Yes, sir. Awesome.

1136
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:04,240
>> Great question. So yeah, I'll hand any

1137
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:05,599
questions on that and I'll continue to

1138
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:06,560
move on.

1139
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,680
>> Well, yeah. Before I mean, um, are we

1140
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,480
able to This is obviously the first time

1141
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,720
we've kind of looked at this part of it.

1142
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,640
Is there a way that if we, you know, you

1143
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,319
okay the budget, but then we discuss

1144
00:43:18,319 --> 00:43:20,400
this at a later time and learn more

1145
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,560
about it, uh, or if we recommended the

1146
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,800
council tonight to accept this budget,

1147
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,960
is this approved? You know, and then the

1148
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,760
council then would also approve. Um,

1149
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,400
>> so this is not in there. Is that where

1150
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,760
>> this is in the budget?

1151
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,119
>> Yes, it's been it's in the budget,

1152
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:40,000
ma'am. This just I mean, it's not

1153
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,599
$1,500,000.

1154
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:45,599
estimate about 28,000 but the initial

1155
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:49,440
cost plus the reoccurring is 27 28,000

1156
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,400
>> for the first year. Yeah.

1157
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,520
>> Yeah. First year.

1158
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,160
>> Council President Miller.

1159
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,640
>> Thank you. Um, mayor, I do uh have

1160
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,000
basically the same question that you

1161
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,640
just raised is if we do do a conditional

1162
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,680
approval um on the budget, if we could

1163
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,319
caveat because I think there is a lot

1164
00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:09,280
more discussion to be had on this um

1165
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,440
that we do have more discussion on it

1166
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,400
before we do a full approval on it. The

1167
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,160
reason is is because council has spent a

1168
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,240
lot of time over the last several years

1169
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:20,079
trying to focus on patrol coverage and

1170
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,400
get our service levels related to patrol

1171
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,560
up. And I don't know at this point if

1172
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,480
this really

1173
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,800
complements that effort um with the

1174
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,960
training that can kines take uh with my

1175
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,119
experience I they take a ton of uh

1176
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:36,480
training and that will take um again

1177
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,760
this is what I want to learn about is

1178
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,160
how much it'll take an officer off of

1179
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,079
patrol and going outside of our area for

1180
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:46,800
training activities for that canine. The

1181
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,160
other issue, just putting on the record

1182
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,839
really quick, is that um when an officer

1183
00:44:51,839 --> 00:44:53,440
or handler leaves a department for

1184
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,880
whatever reason or they're on vacation,

1185
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,839
um St. Helens had the same issue. It

1186
00:44:59,839 --> 00:45:01,599
creates a burden for somebody else that

1187
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:03,920
didn't want a dog. And when you have a

1188
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,319
small workforce, um you of course reduce

1189
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:07,839
the number of people that are willing or

1190
00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:09,359
qualified to be able to be a canine

1191
00:45:09,359 --> 00:45:12,800
handler. So, I think that we do need to

1192
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,920
hear a little bit more about this. Um, I

1193
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,520
support it. I just don't know that if

1194
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,200
now's the time. And so I would like to

1195
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,920
hear more from Chief Blan before we give

1196
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,040
final approval on this budget item.

1197
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,960
Um, the other thing that I'll add too is

1198
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,800
that there's a lot going on for a small

1199
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,960
department. Um, I didn't know that we

1200
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,720
were adding a detective. So, you know,

1201
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:35,200
that's a new program. Um, I would like

1202
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,119
to hear how that's going to impact um,

1203
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:39,839
the patrol coverage. Um, but also we're

1204
00:45:39,839 --> 00:45:41,680
adding the SRO program, too. and now we

1205
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,440
want to add a a canine program within

1206
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,079
the same physical year. That's a lot. Um

1207
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:49,040
so I would just ask that we we can give

1208
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,800
conditional approval if that's what the

1209
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,280
majority decides but I think there needs

1210
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,839
to be further conversation on this.

1211
00:45:55,839 --> 00:45:57,839
Thank you.

1212
00:45:57,839 --> 00:45:59,520
>> Uh thank you very much and for the

1213
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,400
information counselor. So just quick um

1214
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,400
u more information. So particularly for

1215
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,960
the detective position and also the K9,

1216
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,880
this is already going to be internally

1217
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,240
additional assignments from patrol

1218
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:12,319
officers currently in our ranks. Um so

1219
00:46:12,319 --> 00:46:15,359
it's not additional new FTE uh when it

1220
00:46:15,359 --> 00:46:17,359
comes down to it. So the K9 position if

1221
00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:18,640
approved by the council and budget

1222
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,960
committee will still be part of patrol

1223
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,560
and still be responding for call for

1224
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,560
services. But council Miller is correct.

1225
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,160
There is certain requirements that we

1226
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,560
have to name sufficiency for that. As

1227
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,160
for detective position, um that will be

1228
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,560
uh once again part of one of patrol

1229
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,720
officer additional duties. Um that will

1230
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:38,800
be set aside once we get to our patrol

1231
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,000
coverage levels. Um but my priority as a

1232
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,520
chief is still make sure we have patrol

1233
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,760
officers responding to call for services

1234
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,200
um during the times we currently have

1235
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,839
right now as a priority and as we

1236
00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:51,200
continue to move through and and

1237
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,319
backfill people uh to put those people

1238
00:46:54,319 --> 00:46:56,480
out and make sure we maintain that level

1239
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,200
of coverage. and SRO position two once

1240
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,800
again that's going to be assigned to the

1241
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,000
schools um during the school year um but

1242
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,839
they'll be asset that will come back to

1243
00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:07,359
the patrol level during the summer time

1244
00:47:07,359 --> 00:47:09,599
with schools out so that'll help

1245
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:11,440
facilitate that too as well so that's

1246
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,400
kind of the quick down and dirty of how

1247
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,359
looking for going forward sir thank you

1248
00:47:17,359 --> 00:47:19,119
chief and I I want to make clear that I

1249
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:21,119
support you and I support these efforts

1250
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:23,520
um I I just want to make sure that we're

1251
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,880
doing our due diligence we're having the

1252
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,560
right conversations about these things

1253
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,240
it can have a a really significant

1254
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:30,800
impact. So, uh, thank you for your

1255
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,240
comments. I appreciate it.

1256
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:33,520
>> But, but yes, councelor President

1257
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,359
Miller, to your to your answer your

1258
00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:36,480
question, if we approved it in the

1259
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,760
budget does not mean that we have to go

1260
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,119
forward at this time. It just places it

1261
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:40,400
in the budget so we are allowed to go

1262
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,720
forward when if and when we go forward

1263
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,160
with that. Without that, it makes it

1264
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,640
hard to go forward with it. If we do

1265
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,240
decide to go with it, um, it's much

1266
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,319
easier to plan to spend as opposed to

1267
00:47:50,319 --> 00:47:51,599
having to do it after the budget is

1268
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:53,040
adopted.

1269
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,720
>> Okay. Thank you.

1270
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:58,240
>> Correct me if I'm wrong. Um, and if if

1271
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:02,000
it is approved it, uh, would you be able

1272
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,000
just to implement without running it

1273
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,520
through city council? Again,

1274
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,720
>> I I wouldn't implement it if there was

1275
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:10,560
discussion requested by the council

1276
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,400
before we did that. That would not be a

1277
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,520
wise move on my part. So,

1278
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,880
>> and I will say that for our police

1279
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,920
department, this is going to be

1280
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,520
community thing and it really that's

1281
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,680
what it comes back to. So, I like the

1282
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,240
community be board. Um this will be the

1283
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:25,920
first asset I think in Columbia County.

1284
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,280
Other two dogs that are in the county

1285
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,920
are apprehension dogs. Um one that

1286
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,200
tracks down criminals who want to run or

1287
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,920
people who are post arrest. This will be

1288
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,880
focused on um drug detection getting out

1289
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,520
of our community and also with the

1290
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,280
hopeful goal too to also help CL County

1291
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,440
Sheriff's Office by um doing additional

1292
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,119
checks or contraband within their jail

1293
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:49,440
system. So, um I think it'll have a very

1294
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,960
positive impact for the whole entire

1295
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,680
community just computers if uh deployed

1296
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,079
correctly. But appreciate you're looking

1297
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:58,559
at this and I said I'm I'm glad for the

1298
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:00,079
communication and dialogue.

1299
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:01,440
>> This is probably a good time for us to

1300
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,520
talk about, you know, we'd like to also

1301
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,480
add $400,000

1302
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,480
just under that. I know it's terrible

1303
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,680
time to ask, right? But uh it's 399 or

1304
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,000
whatever um for if we get the grant for

1305
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,800
radios, we're gonna need to spend it.

1306
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,480
And that was not now buying new radios.

1307
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,520
>> Right. Yeah. I'll give I'll give a

1308
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,880
little context. So just over the last

1309
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,319
week after we submitted these budget

1310
00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:28,319
documents, uh we were notified of a

1311
00:49:28,319 --> 00:49:30,319
grant that council president Miller is

1312
00:49:30,319 --> 00:49:34,640
working with chief and um fellow a some

1313
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,240
other agencies to get some additional

1314
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:37,920
ratings radios and other things. So, we

1315
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,079
were notified last week that we're on

1316
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:41,359
the top of the list. There's some things

1317
00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:44,400
that we still need to move forward with,

1318
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,839
but with that, we didn't have it in the

1319
00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:48,240
budget plan for a number. Um, since we

1320
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:50,640
got that, we we can add it in this

1321
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,160
meeting. We couldn't add it in the next

1322
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,800
council meeting. So, um, once again,

1323
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,839
it's a lot easier to get it in the

1324
00:49:55,839 --> 00:49:57,440
budget ahead of time. It would be a

1325
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,440
grant with associated expense, so it

1326
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,839
doesn't really change anything we're

1327
00:50:01,839 --> 00:50:04,480
doing with our general fund monies. is

1328
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,839
just adding it to the budget.

1329
00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:10,640
>> So, we'll be adding $400,000 worth of

1330
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,640
>> revenue and $400,000 worth of capital

1331
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:15,920
expense.

1332
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,280
>> So, it's basically

1333
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,119
>> there's a couple other agencies that get

1334
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:20,800
part of that as well

1335
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,920
>> or the 400 isn't just Scapoo.

1336
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,440
>> I'm pretty sure that the money would

1337
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,760
come to Scapus and then we would

1338
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,240
distribute the resources out. So, it

1339
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:31,200
would have to come here and then it

1340
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,520
would be it I don't know the specifics.

1341
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:34,800
It'd be best just to plan for that and

1342
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,960
if it end up less that'd be great. We

1343
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,319
just want to make sure it's easy.

1344
00:50:38,319 --> 00:50:40,000
>> It's two other cities Reneer and

1345
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,200
Columbia City

1346
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:41,680
>> right

1347
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,800
>> organizations. Ultimately 399 will come

1348
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,000
in and then go out. Um

1349
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,000
but you're going to put it in here then?

1350
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,760
>> We'd like to add it as Yeah, we'd like

1351
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,160
to add that. So, and that will come out.

1352
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,240
I'll send out new sheets and everything

1353
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:56,720
for people.

1354
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:58,319
>> All right. So that be added 400,000

1355
00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:00,240
expense, 400,000 in revenue and it just

1356
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,480
be a wash

1357
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,520
because it would be a

1358
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:08,319
>> nothing out of from mud additional

1359
00:51:08,319 --> 00:51:10,240
>> mill council. Was there any match on our

1360
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:11,920
side that was required? I didn't see.

1361
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,440
>> No, there's there's no match and this is

1362
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,520
a re reimbursement grant too. So, we

1363
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,280
will we will write the first check and

1364
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,960
then they basically we submit the

1365
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,640
invoices to Oregon Criminal Justice

1366
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,800
Commission and they reimburse us fully

1367
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,040
for the expenses up to the allowed

1368
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,440
amount which is uh right now pending at

1369
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,030
399,84.

1370
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,559
Um and they they do that within 30 days.

1371
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:36,079
>> That's you know congratulations. That's

1372
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:38,000
a really good grant to get us new if

1373
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,720
even if it's 200,000 for us. I mean

1374
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,520
that's we'll go buy $200,000 worth.

1375
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:49,750
That's great. Yeah,

1376
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,000
» but you don't have anywhere on here

1377
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,760
radios already in

1378
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:56,960
>> because I didn't know anything about it

1379
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,280
until like yesterday like today.

1380
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:02,800
>> Yeah. And we wouldn't have been able to

1381
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,040
do this in this, you know, physical year

1382
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,400
or anything to do with replacement

1383
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,040
radios without this grant. So now that

1384
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,599
we were notified that we are place

1385
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:14,319
number one right now, um now it now it

1386
00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:22,549
is an issue to put in there.

1387
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:24,559
» And so we keep talking about level of

1388
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:25,760
service with the police department.

1389
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,119
We're going to continue to talk about

1390
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:29,440
that as we go on the next couple months.

1391
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,079
So, you know, as a budget, we've got

1392
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:34,160
placeholders in here and looking at this

1393
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,640
funding and I agree with what you have

1394
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,160
in here. forward and um but we're going

1395
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,640
to continue to talk about funding other

1396
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,680
funding sources for the police that we

1397
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,520
have. Okay,

1398
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,960
>> Carol, I have a quick question. I don't

1399
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,680
see fuel code 206 being used for police.

1400
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,839
How are they tracking their fuel?

1401
00:52:53,839 --> 00:52:56,000
>> That's under um vehicle maintenance. I

1402
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,960
believe for us, Dave, but it's in

1403
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:01,119
he

1404
00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:02,240
>> approves it every month.

1405
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:07,440
>> Yeah, it's in there. Trust me. Check it.

1406
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,280
You want to increase that a little with

1407
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,599
um

1408
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:15,270
gas.

1409
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:20,630
» Good thing we have a

1410
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,240
» electric bikes for patrol. We're going

1411
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:25,599
>> I like that.

1412
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:29,359
>> Okay. Any more questions?

1413
00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:33,349
>> In a minute.

1414
00:53:33,359 --> 00:53:39,430
Moving on to parks department page 57.

1415
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,119
» Ready?

1416
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:42,559
>> That' be me.

1417
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:45,680
>> Uh thank you chair. Uh council budget

1418
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,240
committee. Um talking some parks right

1419
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:50,720
now. Um go ahead and start off with the

1420
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:56,309
operational budget of 3,777,238

1421
00:53:56,319 --> 00:53:58,480
$230.

1422
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:03,430
Of that personnel, $414,500.

1423
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:08,790
Materials and services, $249,35

1424
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,000
with $2,925

1425
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,920
for transfers. Uh capital outlay uh

1426
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,670
$3,110,500

1427
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,480
as mentioned in the uh budget message

1428
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,680
and by the chair. Mr. Mayor, uh, three

1429
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,400
of these line items for this has grant

1430
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,240
or grant driven. Uh, one is the one that

1431
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:34,319
we budgeted for last year. The Smith

1432
00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:37,599
Road Veterans Park extension um is in

1433
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:41,839
there. We received a grant for an ADA

1434
00:54:41,839 --> 00:54:46,160
playground for Veterans Park. Um, that

1435
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,520
one uh just went through the RFPs. We

1436
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,800
received b some bids and we awarded uh

1437
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,359
Burke to do the constructing which

1438
00:54:55,359 --> 00:54:58,079
should happen in the next fiscal year.

1439
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:00,480
Um the third one is the bridge from

1440
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,319
veterans to comely. We received a 50%

1441
00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:09,440
total cost grant for that. Um so um that

1442
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,240
includes the design for that bridge as

1443
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:16,319
well. Uh $100,000 for miscellaneous park

1444
00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:18,800
improvements. This is just for things

1445
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,079
that uh either staff and or council uh

1446
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:24,319
recommends and they go through council

1447
00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:25,920
process throughout the year that can

1448
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,960
come up and then just equipment grades

1449
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,280
um for any type of emergencies that come

1450
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,910
up uh throughout the year.

1451
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,079
» Does that 100,000 cover like the disc

1452
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:42,160
golf covers a disc golf? Um if meer

1453
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,760
property um I know there's some

1454
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,000
municipal code issues with that but

1455
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,760
that's what that stuff's allocated for.

1456
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,589
>> You did ask about that

1457
00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:53,440
when will we start building the park?

1458
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,200
>> Yeah, we had a very clear discussion

1459
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,079
when that all transpired that u the EJ

1460
00:55:58,079 --> 00:55:59,760
Smith parcel would be developed first

1461
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,200
and a few other things that were already

1462
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,760
in the queue. So he he is aware that

1463
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:10,710
it'd be a couple years out but

1464
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:12,160
I have a question. Are we looking at

1465
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,440
some of the development codes though

1466
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,359
that may lower the bar for some of the

1467
00:56:15,359 --> 00:56:17,200
infrastructure and upgrades that are

1468
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,880
necessary when city parks are being

1469
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,200
developed?

1470
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,559
>> We don't have any proposed changes at

1471
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:28,319
this time. Um

1472
00:56:28,319 --> 00:56:30,960
the snag we were running into was well

1473
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,720
number one typically you know you'd do

1474
00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:34,720
frontage improvements at the time of

1475
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:37,040
development. That would be a really

1476
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,760
heavy lift for this project when you

1477
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,680
know the intent really is initially to

1478
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,680
um try and get it up and running and

1479
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,880
usable. Uh putting in a small kind of

1480
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,960
parking lot area, but like our code does

1481
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,839
require that parking lots are paved. Um

1482
00:56:55,839 --> 00:56:58,160
uh the other thing was potentially doing

1483
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,040
just like a portaotty initially until we

1484
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,680
have funding to do a full standalone

1485
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:08,000
structure. um our code kind of really uh

1486
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,520
the municipal code in terms of

1487
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,440
portaotties is more about like for

1488
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,200
events or for shortterm use not for

1489
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,640
long-term use. Um and so my thought

1490
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,200
really on that one was just for that

1491
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,200
particular issue. It would be a pretty

1492
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,079
quick fix to kind of clarify it could be

1493
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:31,440
used for uh underutilized parks or or

1494
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,839
spaces like that. But I it's it's

1495
00:57:33,839 --> 00:57:36,880
something to look at for sure. Um but

1496
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,640
it's not been I we're 50-year plan is

1497
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,720
top top to get through right now.

1498
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:43,760
>> Yeah, I was going to say we have had

1499
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,119
discussions about it. It's just trying

1500
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:46,480
to get these

1501
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,559
>> backlog of 50-year plan updates done

1502
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:50,640
before she can move to the next set of

1503
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,200
updates we'd like to get moving on. So

1504
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,359
>> So it's not the intent to package all of

1505
00:57:55,359 --> 00:57:59,119
the changes into one effort. So this

1506
00:57:59,119 --> 00:57:59,920
wouldn't be

1507
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,559
>> um Yeah. and those were held for three

1508
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:04,880
years and so that's coming forward as

1509
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,160
one package. I did count we are touching

1510
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,760
and amending 36 chapters out of 54 of

1511
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,079
the development code. It's a huge

1512
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:16,240
undertaking. So we we've got to get that

1513
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,240
done first. Uh we have talked about some

1514
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,480
interim type stuff we could do to get

1515
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,720
something going at that park. But um

1516
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,599
again to to Dave's point like we have

1517
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:27,760
grant funding that has deadlines. We're

1518
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,640
trying to get that work done uh first

1519
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,640
knowing we would love to use that parcel

1520
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,680
because it's treated and beautiful. So,

1521
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,559
>> are you able to build trails in there?

1522
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:43,280
Bark dust trails without a parking lot.

1523
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,200
>> You know, you you can, but our biggest

1524
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,799
concern right now is some sort of a

1525
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:47,839
restroom.

1526
00:58:47,839 --> 00:58:50,480
>> If if people are there too long, they're

1527
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,079
going to have needs and then if you

1528
00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:53,440
don't have facilities,

1529
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:54,480
>> we're going to have things we don't

1530
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,280
want. So,

1531
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,280
>> are we okay having the porta potty at

1532
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,359
Chapman Landing because it's county prop

1533
00:58:59,359 --> 00:58:59,680
county?

1534
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:00,240
>> That's right.

1535
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,760
>> It meets the zoning requirements, I

1536
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:02,000
guess.

1537
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,270
>> Yeah.

1538
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,720
» So, yeah, we'll continue to look at that

1539
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,480
is in the discussions.

1540
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,839
>> Okay. Thanks.

1541
00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:14,960
>> I have a question for Doug. Um, under

1542
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,359
the, uh, 242 dues, fees, and

1543
00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:18,960
subscriptions.

1544
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,440
Um, I know it's only 10,000, but it is

1545
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,880
three times what it was last year. Um

1546
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,599
what what are the dues and descriptions

1547
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:29,200
and fees? Why not? You

1548
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:29,920
>> want me to take that?

1549
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,960
>> Yeah, that's that's a part of the money

1550
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,040
coming out of

1551
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,200
>> the general fund to the individual funds

1552
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,000
administration stuff. Uh y'all that has

1553
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,640
come

1554
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,319
>> Spring Brook there's there's that's a

1555
00:59:46,319 --> 00:59:47,119
big thing the software.

1556
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:48,960
>> So it's not an increase. It's coming

1557
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,960
some used to go in,

1558
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:51,359
>> right?

1559
00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:52,079
>> Yeah.

1560
00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:54,559
>> And so it went to other other things

1561
00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:56,559
>> and insurance wasn't in there in the

1562
00:59:56,559 --> 00:59:58,240
past. You know, it's always got the

1563
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,200
insurance also is a big cost that went

1564
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,440
down to the individual departments just

1565
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,119
for transparency sake. So,

1566
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:10,309
>> okay, thank you.

1567
01:00:10,319 --> 01:00:12,640
» Hey, great jobs with parks. Again, we're

1568
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,200
talking level of service there. So, as

1569
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,599
we can find additional funding sources,

1570
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:22,240
we'll be able to adjust and

1571
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,960
build some more park.

1572
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,400
Um, municipal court department page 61.

1573
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,079
>> There's not a lot to say about municipal

1574
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:32,079
court. I told the chief I wouldn't make

1575
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:34,960
him do this because because court really

1576
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,599
kind of falls more on administration.

1577
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:39,599
It's, you know, we hope we always hope

1578
01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:43,680
we get $100,000 worth of um of revenue

1579
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,359
from fines. Never happens, but you know,

1580
01:00:47,359 --> 01:00:48,799
it hasn't, at least since I've been

1581
01:00:48,799 --> 01:00:50,880
here. So, you can kind of see that, you

1582
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,680
know, we budget for it, uh, but it's not

1583
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,040
there. They do, the court does pay for

1584
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,280
half an employee plus a little bit of

1585
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:00,799
administration.

1586
01:01:00,799 --> 01:01:03,280
And, you know, they have, you know,

1587
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,680
costs they have to pay money through.

1588
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,280
that's what their materials and services

1589
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,119
is. They have to pay money through to

1590
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:11,920
the state and so they're collecting

1591
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,920
money for other things. Really, there

1592
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,000
isn't a lot that's changed. Obviously,

1593
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,240
we've got attorney fees. That's the big

1594
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,839
cost for municipal court is the is the

1595
01:01:21,839 --> 01:01:24,400
judge and the attorneys, the defense

1596
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,319
attorney and the our prosecuting

1597
01:01:26,319 --> 01:01:29,280
attorney. That's the big cost for court.

1598
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,480
Well, it looks like the payroll costs

1599
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:37,040
went from 54,000 about in 2425 up to

1600
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,119
133,000.

1601
01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:41,359
>> Is that another one of these transfers

1602
01:01:41,359 --> 01:01:41,839
from general?

1603
01:01:41,839 --> 01:01:44,000
>> Transfers from partly. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

1604
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,760
Good. Now, they're in the general fund.

1605
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,799
So, if we get money from court or part

1606
01:01:48,799 --> 01:01:51,040
of our salaries go to court, we try to

1607
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,760
we tried to take part of everything. I

1608
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,880
don't think the general man that bend

1609
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,559
has um had anything going to court in

1610
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:02,880
the past. So, we're trying to make these

1611
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,680
kind of even them out to where things

1612
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,760
seem to fit. So,

1613
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,559
>> does the does the code enforcement come

1614
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:13,119
in here at all? That's fees for

1615
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:14,960
speeding, tickets, those type of things.

1616
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,559
>> They're they're entirely, you know,

1617
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:17,920
unless they unless he writes a ticket

1618
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,240
and we get revenue from it, but I I

1619
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,520
don't think he's been they've been doing

1620
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:27,599
things that way. So, yes, we have code of force of

1621
01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:29,119
violation. There have been tickets going

1622
01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:31,599
through the process of describing so

1623
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:33,440
that would come

1624
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,440
>> that's a good thing. So

1625
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,440
>> I didn't realize that. So

1626
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,599
>> obviously our first thing is to enforce

1627
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:42,319
and to communicate and get them to

1628
01:02:42,319 --> 01:02:45,119
change and do stuff but ultimately there

1629
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:47,520
violations.

1630
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,040
Okay.

1631
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,520
Um we good. Moving on. Number 13, page

1632
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,319
64, planning department.

1633
01:02:56,319 --> 01:02:57,839
>> Planning department.

1634
01:02:57,839 --> 01:03:01,920
>> Yes. Yes. Thank you, mayor. So, let's

1635
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:06,240
see. Um, no very big changes this year,

1636
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,640
but you'll see overall from uh the 20 uh

1637
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,640
2025 to 2026 to this next year um the

1638
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,880
total expenditures have dropped roughly

1639
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,240
in half. Again, that's reflective of um

1640
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,000
the fact that we did not purchase the

1641
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,760
building on East Columbia. Um aside from

1642
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,640
that, uh we don't have any big changes.

1643
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:33,440
Uh this year we will be focusing on

1644
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,880
uh completion of the 50-year plan.

1645
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,880
Um I will also serve on the project

1646
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,039
management team for the transportation

1647
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:43,599
system plan update and the Scapoost to

1648
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:46,480
St. Helen's trail project as well as

1649
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,960
supporting the entrepreneurship programs

1650
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,799
we'll be talking about at the new

1651
01:03:50,799 --> 01:03:52,880
economic development fund in a little

1652
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:57,680
bit. Um we will be let's see we can go

1653
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,920
through here. The budget amount from the

1654
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:04,710
general fund department is 958,216.

1655
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,760
We anticipate revenue of 113,000 this

1656
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,319
year. Uh personnel services costs are

1657
01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:13,839
budgeted at 628605.

1658
01:04:13,839 --> 01:04:15,760
Material and services costs are

1659
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,280
estimated at 28336

1660
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,280
and capital outlay is budgeted at

1661
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,390
43,650,000

1662
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,079
and there will be a transfer to the

1663
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:30,549
administration department at 2925

1664
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:33,599
for the completion of the 50-year plan.

1665
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:37,200
Um, I did include 15,000 um in

1666
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,760
contingency in case um I there there is

1667
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,920
no way to know as we're heading into

1668
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,799
adoption hearings how many um hearings

1669
01:04:46,799 --> 01:04:50,400
that's going to take. Um it's a complete

1670
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,559
unknown. So we have estimates of what we

1671
01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:58,240
um think that could look like. Um but we

1672
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,599
don't know. So I figured it would be

1673
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:01,599
best to put a little contingency in

1674
01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:03,200
there in case we need it. Of course,

1675
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,920
we'd come back to council um to make

1676
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,920
that change if we needed to.

1677
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,760
>> What is your rough guesstimate of when

1678
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,640
will those start monthly?

1679
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,720
>> So, no um they are going to start the

1680
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,599
planning commission hearing is um going

1681
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:23,119
to be scheduled for June 25th.

1682
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:25,440
Council, if everything goes well,

1683
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,599
council's hearing would be scheduled for

1684
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:30,640
July 20th.

1685
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,359
It's going to be a very large large

1686
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:36,079
binder for you all. I apologize ahead of

1687
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:39,440
time. Um working on putting those staff

1688
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,319
reports together um through this month

1689
01:05:42,319 --> 01:05:45,280
and June.

1690
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,480
So yeah, happy to answer any questions.

1691
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,200
Um, again I did notice the dues went up

1692
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,440
like had to go back in and look and

1693
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,599
again that's just the stuff being parsed

1694
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:58,160
out to the individual departments.

1695
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:03,109
>> On this you skip 2526

1696
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:04,319
» from 23.

1697
01:06:04,319 --> 01:06:09,920
>> Yes, I will fix that. There's also a um an error in your copy

1698
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,839
for the uh community development

1699
01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:14,240
director. Those wages are wrong. So, but

1700
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,960
I will fix that update right here.

1701
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,240
>> Yeah.

1702
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:18,640
um

1703
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,720
>> do I get for copying stuff?

1704
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,119
>> Yeah, I mean aside from that, I'm seeing

1705
01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:27,440
health insurance jumped quite a bit. Um

1706
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,079
again, that's just across the board, but

1707
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:32,240
generally speaking, costs are pretty

1708
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,599
similar to what they've been in the

1709
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:36,160
past,

1710
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:36,559
>> yes.

1711
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:38,720
>> Yeah, I I would like to see a line item

1712
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,520
for a comprehensive waterf study

1713
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,440
eventually because we need that.

1714
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,119
>> I think that actually would come from

1715
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:53,990
storm water fund. Yeah.

1716
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,000
» Okay. Moving on.

1717
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,520
>> Number 14.

1718
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:02,240
>> A quick question. Um, in terms of the revenue, the planning, development

1719
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:03,839
fees, and the infrastructure inspection

1720
01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:05,599
and planning fees. Um, so we're

1721
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:08,000
anticipating that to be lower this year.

1722
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,000
Why would that be?

1723
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,200
Um, it's always interesting for us to

1724
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,960
kind of sit down, put our heads together

1725
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,160
at CDC and figure out what projects we

1726
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,039
think will actually write their check in

1727
01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:24,559
this upcoming fiscal year. Uh, it's

1728
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:26,240
really hard when they kind of span

1729
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:27,920
years. We're not sure exactly when

1730
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,480
they're going to go, but based on what

1731
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,559
we're seeing, we we there's not a lot

1732
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:35,119
kind of in the pipeline coming through.

1733
01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:37,920
So we do expect revenues for this

1734
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,720
upcoming fiscal year will be lower than

1735
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,760
they have been um say in the last um few

1736
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,920
years just because we're not seeing the

1737
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,960
projects like coming in. Uh there was a

1738
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,280
lot of housing the last few years so it

1739
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,799
was kind of up for infrastructure

1740
01:07:52,799 --> 01:07:53,839
inspection fees.

1741
01:07:53,839 --> 01:07:55,440
>> So those all three are already done

1742
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:56,720
through the

1743
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,079
>> Yeah. So they've already made their

1744
01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:01,200
payments. That's correct. So, I we it

1745
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,520
very well could be higher than this, but

1746
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,599
um we're just not seeing stuff that's

1747
01:08:05,599 --> 01:08:08,319
like definitely going to go next year.

1748
01:08:08,319 --> 01:08:10,319
>> Okay. Great. And then in terms of the

1749
01:08:10,319 --> 01:08:13,039
50-year plan, uh so you'll be kind of

1750
01:08:13,039 --> 01:08:15,039
making the case to the county if there

1751
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:17,440
were to be an appeal at all and that

1752
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:20,799
caused incurred more consultation fees

1753
01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:22,400
and that when would that come? Like do

1754
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,239
we need to be accounting potentially for

1755
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:25,120
any sort of

1756
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:26,880
>> That's a good point. I mean, I do not

1757
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,520
have any type of I mean, I do have a

1758
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,400
healthy, you know, kind of amount for

1759
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,040
attorney fees um that I just carry

1760
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:36,960
normally. Well, it's I'm carrying more

1761
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,960
than I would typically just because of

1762
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,359
we're going through this process.

1763
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:43,600
>> Um, but it would come out of a

1764
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,400
contractual professional line item

1765
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,040
should we have to, you know, spend more

1766
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,199
on attorney's fees going through that

1767
01:08:51,199 --> 01:08:52,719
process.

1768
01:08:52,719 --> 01:08:55,040
Um, that's where it would come out of.

1769
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,359
But I I have not kind of patted the

1770
01:08:57,359 --> 01:08:59,199
budget, if you will, to account for

1771
01:08:59,199 --> 01:08:59,920
that.

1772
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:00,480
>> Okay.

1773
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:03,440
>> The UGB expansion should not be very

1774
01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:06,319
contentious. Um I mean, it's all it's

1775
01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:07,920
not farm forest land. It's

1776
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,799
straightforward. It's residential. It's

1777
01:09:10,799 --> 01:09:14,799
um so I don't anticipate that, but you

1778
01:09:14,799 --> 01:09:15,920
never know.

1779
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,359
>> Okay.

1780
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:21,440
But if there was an extreme event, our general fund does have a $1.1

1781
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:23,440
million contingency in there. So, we

1782
01:09:23,440 --> 01:09:25,520
could pull and and make that happen if

1783
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,600
needed for

1784
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,960
um any unforeseen big event.

1785
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,359
>> Okay.

1786
01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:38,400
Now, on to 14, right? U general

1787
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,839
fund non-EP departmental page 67.

1788
01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:44,880
>> Kind of already discussed a lot of this.

1789
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,960
Um you know this is basically things

1790
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,279
that don't fit into any of the standard

1791
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:50,960
departments you know so it includes

1792
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,799
those couple of transfers one to

1793
01:09:52,799 --> 01:09:55,840
economic development agency and to the

1794
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,159
Watts house for their porch for their

1795
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:00,880
porch work and then the contingency and

1796
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,440
the other prepared fund balance you are

1797
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:05,840
both in here in this line and then we

1798
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,159
also put the swim reserve here because

1799
01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:10,000
it's still there you add it in you got

1800
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,800
to take it back out so

1801
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,640
>> and that transfer to economic public

1802
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,640
development agency is basically funded

1803
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,080
by a grant coming.

1804
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:23,590
>> Yes. Yeah. That's not city money.

1805
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,880
» Get more into that, I'm sure.

1806
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,000
>> Okay.

1807
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,120
>> Um number 15, page 68, law enforcement

1808
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,040
assessment.

1809
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,840
>> Okay. I told Chief I do this one, too.

1810
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,600
So, okay. Um, this this fund was set up

1811
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,719
to basically

1812
01:10:42,719 --> 01:10:45,199
track funds that come through ticket

1813
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:48,880
revenue and are transferred to the law

1814
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,440
enforcement fund so that the police have

1815
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:55,120
money to help pay for some of their uh,

1816
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,480
you know, things that that they do on a

1817
01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:00,560
regular basis like doughnut day and

1818
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,840
national night out and um, Earth Day,

1819
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,400
you know, and that fund has not had a

1820
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:07,600
lot money because we haven't had a lot

1821
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,239
of ticket revenue. So that you know

1822
01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:12,080
there is a certain amount of ticket

1823
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,960
revenue that's assigned that's that's

1824
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,159
earmarked for this law enforcement

1825
01:11:18,159 --> 01:11:20,960
criminal justice fees and police fees.

1826
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,199
And the idea originally was that they

1827
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:25,040
would be able to buy cars and stuff with

1828
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,199
this. It's never been that way for at

1829
01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:29,440
least as long as I can see. So, it's

1830
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:32,560
just kind of there as as funds that is

1831
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,719
are available without hitting the

1832
01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:37,360
regular police budget, you know, to do

1833
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,640
these events that that the chief works

1834
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,199
so hard on, you know, always cooks,

1835
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:45,520
right? So, but he can talk you can talk

1836
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,280
more about that. But then we noticed

1837
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,120
that like Ben caught me and he says,

1838
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,280
"Okay, you're spending more money than

1839
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,679
you're getting in and so you're so

1840
01:11:53,679 --> 01:11:55,280
obviously you can see the reserves going

1841
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,280
down. So, we're probably have to talk to

1842
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,360
Timmy Sue and say, you know, we have to

1843
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:00,960
kind of back off a little bit on what

1844
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,920
we're spending. But, you know, because

1845
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,239
this is basically this is the amount of

1846
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:09,120
money they've got and and they can't go

1847
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,280
over that for the year. So,

1848
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,440
>> typically though, like like Earth Day,

1849
01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:15,280
all the food was donated.

1850
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,560
>> So, this pays for sal you know pays some

1851
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:19,199
salary.

1852
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:21,679
>> It does not pay any salary

1853
01:12:21,679 --> 01:12:24,239
for but there are trinkets and stuff.

1854
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:25,120
having us.

1855
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:26,560
>> So just the same thing like when the

1856
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,960
city council has it or your booths just

1857
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,239
those little gifts we get out to our

1858
01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:32,560
community which stickers and stuff like

1859
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,199
that. So those type of things.

1860
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:38,630
>> So

1861
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,719
Council President Miller

1862
01:12:40,719 --> 01:12:43,040
>> Carol, do you um happen to know what

1863
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:47,040
this fund looked like prior to 2324?

1864
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,520
>> I could send you a his Well, see I have

1865
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:55,669
a 10ear history in here. Um,

1866
01:12:55,679 --> 01:12:59,280
let's see. I got it down to back to 1516

1867
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,760
and it really is I don't have the

1868
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,000
revenue back there. Um, I can get you

1869
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,719
the revenue for the for that amount. I

1870
01:13:06,719 --> 01:13:08,640
can get you the 10-year revenue if you'd

1871
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:09,120
like.

1872
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:10,159
>> Great. And you can see the cash

1873
01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:12,000
carryover though starting back in 156

1874
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:13,360
has been going down steadily over the

1875
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,600
last 10 10 years.

1876
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,520
>> Okay. So, the

1877
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,239
>> the trends over the last maybe 10 years

1878
01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:25,750
with this fund. Thank you.

1879
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,679
» Okay, moving on. Was house page 70

1880
01:13:29,679 --> 01:13:34,390
>> 16.

1881
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:35,760
» Well, that'll be me.

1882
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,159
>> Is that Is that

1883
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:38,800
going to take this one?

1884
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,480
>> I'll take this one. Yeah. uh Watts House

1885
01:13:42,480 --> 01:13:46,080
uh total uh working capital carryover is

1886
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,800
$24,45

1887
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:53,520
with uh again as mentioned $10,000 of a

1888
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,719
transfer uh and $900 of interest will

1889
01:13:56,719 --> 01:13:59,760
bring it to $35,35

1890
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:05,600
for the year. Um pretty much for this fund uh as mentioned is a new

1891
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,239
railing for the house um coming out of

1892
01:14:08,239 --> 01:14:10,880
capital outlay and then uh typical

1893
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,199
maintenance and organ

1894
01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:17,430
um from the materials and services.

1895
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:18,800
Pretty straightforward.

1896
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:23,110
>> Yeah.

1897
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,280
» Question

1898
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,600
moving on.

1899
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,360
You say the mayor should live where you

1900
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,910
want them.

1901
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,040
As long as you get along with the

1902
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:35,520
Grinch.

1903
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,719
>> Yeah. Wow. That might change.

1904
01:14:38,719 --> 01:14:43,679
>> Um, number 17, egg fund, page 61, page

1905
01:14:43,679 --> 01:14:45,600
73,

1906
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,440
>> and I'm going to talk for about two

1907
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:50,159
minutes on this, right? um peg fee fund

1908
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:53,120
was something that Comcast was paying us

1909
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,120
special funds

1910
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,000
in addition to their franchise fees up

1911
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,120
until the end of 2025.

1912
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,159
So we haven't gotten anything since

1913
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:07,520
their report for 2025 and they don't

1914
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,520
it's not in their new franchise

1915
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,239
agreement so there will be going away.

1916
01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:16,719
This did pay for the website, you know,

1917
01:15:16,719 --> 01:15:18,960
it paid for, you know, basically

1918
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:23,600
communication things. So, uh, that is no

1919
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,840
longer there. We're basically running it

1920
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,480
down and probably spending the rest of

1921
01:15:28,480 --> 01:15:30,719
the money this year and it's going to go

1922
01:15:30,719 --> 01:15:32,560
away and become like the swimming pool

1923
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,719
fund. You know, it'll eventually drop

1924
01:15:34,719 --> 01:15:36,640
off. I got to keep it on for three

1925
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:41,120
years. So, so it just was not negotiated

1926
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:42,719
out and you know we're going to spend

1927
01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:44,880
the money and the plan is to spend it

1928
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,199
all this year and I suspect that will

1929
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:49,360
happen this fiscal year to

1930
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,360
>> keep it going. They require like a

1931
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,320
channel you had to do your own public

1932
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:58,880
channel spend so much time on TV and we

1933
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:00,000
don't have that

1934
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,239
>> the funds to do that. So, and it wasn't

1935
01:16:02,239 --> 01:16:04,080
going to fund it all. Yeah. you know.

1936
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,159
So,

1937
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:12,070
>> number 18, page 75, building fund 13.

1938
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,880
» All righty. So, let's see. The building

1939
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,360
department estimated uh estimates around

1940
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,679
50 new home permits could be issued this

1941
01:16:19,679 --> 01:16:22,320
year. In addition, we anticipate one new

1942
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,080
commercial building will be issued a

1943
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,320
permit to begin construction. That would

1944
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,120
be the new WAN branch.

1945
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:30,880
The building fund begins the year with

1946
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,040
the starting position of 135,968.

1947
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:36,960
Permit revenue and miscellaneous fees

1948
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,080
are anticipated to be 286,000.

1949
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,640
Total fund resources are expected to be

1950
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:46,550
421,968.

1951
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,120
Personnel service costs are budgeted at

1952
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,280
114,500.

1953
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,840
Materials and services are estimated at

1954
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,830
244,441.

1955
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,440
and there will be a transfer to the

1956
01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:03,040
general fund of 2,925.

1957
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,120
And then that does leave us with a

1958
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:10,149
contingency of $60,12.

1959
01:17:10,159 --> 01:17:12,400
Um this fund is separate from the

1960
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,679
general fund. It is self sustaining

1961
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:18,640
usually. Uh a few years back there was a

1962
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,480
transfer from the general fund to cover

1963
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:22,960
it, but there has been quite a bit of uh

1964
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,440
permanent permit revenue the last few

1965
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:27,840
years from uh the subdivisions under

1966
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:28,640
construction

1967
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,159
>> and they paid us back

1968
01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:30,880
>> and we paid back.

1969
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,320
>> I want you to know the building fund

1970
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:33,920
paid the general fund back

1971
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:34,239
>> right

1972
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:36,560
>> last year

1973
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:37,840
>> with interest.

1974
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:39,199
>> No interest

1975
01:17:39,199 --> 01:17:39,760
>> um

1976
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,120
>> other than had interest of them paying

1977
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,400
us back. The storage units is that

1978
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,719
development have permits and stuff. Are

1979
01:17:46,719 --> 01:17:48,880
we anticipating

1980
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:49,920
new storage unit?

1981
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,760
>> We anticipated that it would be this

1982
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:52,880
fiscal year.

1983
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:57,440
>> All the permit stuff was last year.

1984
01:17:57,440 --> 01:18:00,640
>> And um I hope our office administrator

1985
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,480
and city manager don't start with a

1986
01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:05,440
negative salary.

1987
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:06,080
>> I mean,

1988
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:11,590
>> yeah. Oh, whoops.

1989
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:12,239
Thank you.

1990
01:18:12,239 --> 01:18:15,360
>> So then yeah, keep it.

1991
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,159
>> I worked so hard on all of the numbers.

1992
01:18:18,159 --> 01:18:18,719
>> I know

1993
01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:20,960
>> to make sure everything matched and the

1994
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,320
rest of it

1995
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:23,840
>> personnel suffered. I'm sorry.

1996
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,990
>> Test us to see if we're

1997
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:32,159
» okay. Um on to the brand new one. Tab

1998
01:18:32,159 --> 01:18:34,960
19, economic development fund 17, page

1999
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,120
78.

2000
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,280
Okay.

2001
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,440
So, the economic development department

2002
01:18:41,440 --> 01:18:44,480
is a newly formed uh department within

2003
01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:47,199
the city of Scapus which implements the

2004
01:18:47,199 --> 01:18:51,120
Colombia business alliance CBA for short

2005
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,360
that is housed within uh the community

2006
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,080
development center. So, the CBA is

2007
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,719
serving as a communitywide

2008
01:18:58,719 --> 01:19:02,719
um well, I should say a countywide

2009
01:19:02,719 --> 01:19:07,280
uh business community um uh gosh, I

2010
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,000
really messed that one up. Um is

2011
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,679
dedicated to strengthening Columbia

2012
01:19:11,679 --> 01:19:14,400
County's existing business ecosystem as

2013
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,800
well as recognizing and supporting

2014
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,400
entrepreneurs.

2015
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,920
So for this year, um the four focus

2016
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:25,120
areas are serving as Columbia County's

2017
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,280
business resource hub, providing

2018
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,239
accessible business education, business

2019
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:32,400
ecosystem development, business

2020
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,760
promotion, and implementation of

2021
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:40,080
billocal campaigns. So I'll just um

2022
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,760
pause. There were some questions

2023
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,040
submitted um kind of just more to get an

2024
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,760
understanding of funding for this um for

2025
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,760
this new department.

2026
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,360
So, uh, with the dissolution of Columbia

2027
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,920
Economic Team, uh, there were some

2028
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,560
programs that were, uh, essentially

2029
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,920
going to go away in the community unless

2030
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,640
there was a way to, uh, have someone

2031
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,000
house those grants and really combine

2032
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,960
um, two of them particularly together in

2033
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,719
order to fund one full-time position uh,

2034
01:20:14,719 --> 01:20:17,360
in its entirety. So, uh, what

2035
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,840
transferred to the city is the Ford

2036
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:24,400
Family Foundation Grow Grant. Um, that

2037
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:28,719
is a $100,000 max grant amount. Um, and

2038
01:20:28,719 --> 01:20:33,910
we had transferred to us $93,598.

2039
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:39,280
Um, that grow grant actually is um the

2040
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,920
city or the city of St. Helens is the

2041
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,040
grant recipient. The city of St. Helens

2042
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,719
contracted with Scapus in order to

2043
01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:52,719
implement uh and run that program. Uh

2044
01:20:52,719 --> 01:20:55,600
this does between the Ford Family

2045
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,360
Foundation grant and then the other

2046
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,199
grant that transferred to us was a

2047
01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:02,960
business Oregon um rural opportunities

2048
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,560
initiative grant. Between those two are

2049
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,800
is what is funding the new position

2050
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,760
economic development specialist.

2051
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,800
The business Oregon ROI grant was for

2052
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,719
105,000.

2053
01:21:16,719 --> 01:21:19,760
Um, and

2054
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:21,520
I guess back to the Ford family

2055
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,520
foundation, let me uh answer the

2056
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,400
remaining questions. There is no match.

2057
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,320
Uh, there is no match for either of the

2058
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:29,840
grants.

2059
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,840
The uh Ford Family Foundation Grow Grant

2060
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,679
is runs on a calendar year. This current

2061
01:21:37,679 --> 01:21:41,040
grant will run through the end of uh

2062
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,400
this calendar year, so till December

2063
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,159
2026.

2064
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:50,560
Uh the city can apply for two additional

2065
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,600
rounds of that grant at 100,000 each. So

2066
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,280
for 2027 and 2028,

2067
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,800
the key deliverables for that grant, uh

2068
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:04,000
one-on-one navigation support. So that's

2069
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:05,760
connecting business owners or

2070
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,600
entrepreneurs to resources within the uh

2071
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,400
greater community. Leadership team

2072
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:13,920
engagement

2073
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,440
co-starter programming. This is uh boot

2074
01:22:17,440 --> 01:22:20,320
camps for new business owners or for

2075
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,440
people wanting to start a business. Uh

2076
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:26,239
we have our first co-starter boot camp

2077
01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:30,239
coming up on May 29th and 30th. This

2078
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:32,800
also funds uh the munch and learn

2079
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,520
classes that uh Sierra will be putting

2080
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,440
on throughout the county. Uh this adds

2081
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:41,520
one more resource corner to a local

2082
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,239
library. Uh Scapus is the target this

2083
01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:46,880
year. It essentially purchases books

2084
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,280
around entrepreneurship, starting a

2085
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:52,719
business, business support and outfits

2086
01:22:52,719 --> 01:22:55,280
sort of a little area in each of the um

2087
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,520
community libraries.

2088
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,840
also a small business appreciation

2089
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:03,440
event. Um that is tomorrow morning

2090
01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:05,600
actually at the John Gum building. So

2091
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,080
hopefully you saw that uh advertisement

2092
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,800
in the community and signed up if you'd

2093
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,880
like to be there.

2094
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:16,239
And then the business Oregon grant that

2095
01:23:16,239 --> 01:23:20,880
again uh 105,000 that goes from um

2096
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,360
January through the following June. So

2097
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,719
it's roughly 18 months. we can apply for

2098
01:23:26,719 --> 01:23:30,000
three more rounds of that. Uh we are

2099
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:34,639
currently in stage two uh of the cycle.

2100
01:23:34,639 --> 01:23:38,480
Uh it's meant to be reallocated and and

2101
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:40,639
re-uped. As long as you're doing good

2102
01:23:40,639 --> 01:23:43,360
projects and business sees the work

2103
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,360
you're doing, they do like these to

2104
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:49,280
continue on. Stage two, we can ask for

2105
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,400
between 70 and 120,000.

2106
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,120
Um there is one more round of that and

2107
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:56,960
then stage three which is really

2108
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,719
capitalizing on all the work you've done

2109
01:23:58,719 --> 01:24:01,280
in the first few stages uh you can ask

2110
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:05,360
for between 100,000 and 175,000

2111
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,120
again there's two more rounds of that

2112
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,760
which would take us out through June of

2113
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,360
2023

2114
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,239
for that third round the key

2115
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:15,120
>> 23

2116
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,960
>> 2033 sorry yes 10 years off

2117
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,920
>> uh the key deliverables for that project

2118
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,800
is the BRE project continuence. That's

2119
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,440
the business retention and expansion

2120
01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:30,080
project. The focus areas which were

2121
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:34,000
identified by uh the business

2122
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,719
uh community a few years back during a

2123
01:24:36,719 --> 01:24:39,199
series of interviews that we did uh

2124
01:24:39,199 --> 01:24:41,440
workforce development, regulatory

2125
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:43,120
clarity, communication and

2126
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:46,320
revitalization. So, uh, Sierra and I

2127
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,920
will be, um, convening groups around

2128
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,960
those topics and, uh, moving those

2129
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,239
projects forward. It also pays for

2130
01:24:56,239 --> 01:24:59,120
hiring a consultant to map the regular,

2131
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,679
uh, local regulatory process and that's

2132
01:25:01,679 --> 01:25:05,679
part of the regulations action team. Um,

2133
01:25:05,679 --> 01:25:09,120
again, there's been um

2134
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,840
some questions about sort of the

2135
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,280
capacity to to run this by one person,

2136
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,320
but what I'll say to that is that Sierra

2137
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,440
was running or um very much involved in

2138
01:25:21,440 --> 01:25:24,000
mo most of these projects before. So,

2139
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,560
this is really a continuation

2140
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,880
of the work she's done in the past.

2141
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,880
There's also additional funding that

2142
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:35,600
comes in um to this uh department from

2143
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,639
contributions from other local um

2144
01:25:38,639 --> 01:25:41,520
governments and agencies.

2145
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:45,199
And so that additional funding um you

2146
01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:47,280
know once that starts coming in could

2147
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,000
also cover uh the one-on-one business

2148
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,639
coaching which is a small business

2149
01:25:52,639 --> 01:25:56,080
resource center was offering before. Um

2150
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,719
the grants do not cover that. There was

2151
01:25:58,719 --> 01:26:02,239
a USDA grant that was covering that work

2152
01:26:02,239 --> 01:26:05,840
before. Um that being a federal grant,

2153
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,600
it was not transferable to the city. So

2154
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,120
for now, uh the one-on-one business

2155
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:14,880
coaching is not funded. There are

2156
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:19,520
resources available um um through some

2157
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,679
of the chambers for some of that work,

2158
01:26:21,679 --> 01:26:23,360
but we really would like to bring that

2159
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:28,400
back locally. Um, and so as we get, you

2160
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,719
know, sort of those contributions from

2161
01:26:30,719 --> 01:26:37,360
agencies and local businesses, um, the one-on-one business coaching is as a

2162
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,760
contract work that we would, um, we have

2163
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,880
certain folks who did that work before.

2164
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:44,560
We would like to contract with them

2165
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,480
again. Um, they are still in the

2166
01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:48,880
community and available. So, um, that

2167
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,480
that's something where if the money

2168
01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:52,400
comes in, we'll spend it and we'll hire

2169
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,400
and pay those contractors to do that

2170
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,000
work. If the money does not come in,

2171
01:26:56,000 --> 01:27:01,199
then we'll wait. So, um, but again, this

2172
01:27:01,199 --> 01:27:05,760
is money separate from um general fund

2173
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,800
or city of Scapus money. These are grant

2174
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:12,800
funds. This is going to be run as a um

2175
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,560
self- sustaining department essentially.

2176
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,800
So like the funds that we get from the

2177
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,120
other cities or agencies is that under

2178
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,280
the economic development revenue

2179
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:24,560
>> correct that's correct

2180
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,280
>> and grow fund which is the for

2181
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:28,480
foundation

2182
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:31,040
>> will you have to I think they've already

2183
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,320
applied before second round and it so we

2184
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:35,920
would hope that when they apply we'll

2185
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,719
say Helen's applied in next year

2186
01:27:38,719 --> 01:27:41,280
>> again and we would subcontract for them

2187
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,679
or going forward we apply.

2188
01:27:43,679 --> 01:27:44,480
>> That's a good question.

2189
01:27:44,480 --> 01:27:46,000
>> It could go either way. We yeah, we've

2190
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,320
talked with St. Helens and and the Ford

2191
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,080
family foundation and when it comes down

2192
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:51,679
to the relication, it's just going to be

2193
01:27:51,679 --> 01:27:52,960
whatever's best for the Ford family

2194
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,679
foundation. Uh but either city, I mean,

2195
01:27:55,679 --> 01:27:56,960
we're all working together on this. This

2196
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,280
is a a countywide, so we we meet

2197
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,920
regularly with the other city managers,

2198
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,560
administrators, the the PUB, and there

2199
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,080
there's a lot of coordination that goes

2200
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,679
along this and a lot of people involved.

2201
01:28:07,679 --> 01:28:11,199
But um yeah, whatever is most beneficial

2202
01:28:11,199 --> 01:28:12,719
for the application process, the the

2203
01:28:12,719 --> 01:28:14,560
route will go on once it comes around to

2204
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:15,120
that.

2205
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:16,719
>> I think it's all good because before I

2206
01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:18,239
think too the grow is really focused

2207
01:28:18,239 --> 01:28:19,679
more St. Helen, right?

2208
01:28:19,679 --> 01:28:21,120
>> Now it opens up to the whole county.

2209
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,520
Councel President Miller.

2210
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,679
>> Uh thank you. I just have a quick uh

2211
01:28:25,679 --> 01:28:27,360
clarification for Lori. Lori, when you

2212
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,120
said that there's um no match, do you

2213
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,440
mean that the grant doesn't require a

2214
01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:33,920
match or we don't have the match?

2215
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,760
>> No. No, there's no grant match required.

2216
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,520
Okay, great. Thank you. And then I think

2217
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,120
the last part of the conversation there

2218
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,360
in the room kind of uh clarified my next

2219
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,800
question, but just to throw it out

2220
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,600
there, when we apply for the grants to

2221
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,239
fund this economic development program

2222
01:28:50,239 --> 01:28:52,719
um that we're discussing right now, are

2223
01:28:52,719 --> 01:28:55,679
we is all are all the other cities

2224
01:28:55,679 --> 01:28:58,080
collaborating and in that grant

2225
01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,440
application saying this is going to

2226
01:28:59,440 --> 01:29:01,520
benefit all the cities and and that is

2227
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,440
perhaps a consideration on us getting

2228
01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:05,120
those grants?

2229
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,400
Yeah, for sure, Tyler. Um, and and just

2230
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,400
by the nature of the work that I had

2231
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,120
mentioned, um, or the deliverables for

2232
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,920
each grant, it it is to build that

2233
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,639
ecosystem across the county. This is a

2234
01:29:18,639 --> 01:29:21,679
countywide effort. So absolutely

2235
01:29:21,679 --> 01:29:23,040
>> what where I'm going with this is trying

2236
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,800
to connect the dots in between those

2237
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,880
different uh municipalities

2238
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,679
contributions to this program and

2239
01:29:29,679 --> 01:29:31,840
basically establishing here on the

2240
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,080
record that our success with obtaining

2241
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,320
those grants to fund this program is

2242
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:37,360
because all of those other

2243
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,760
municipalities are contributing to that

2244
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,920
grant application.

2245
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:43,360
>> Right. And I would also add to the

2246
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,920
success of this program is contingent on

2247
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:47,280
us providing a service that they want to

2248
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,280
continue with in the future as well. Um,

2249
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,120
so we we'd have it's a shared

2250
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,120
responsibility to both collaborate both

2251
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:54,800
ways with our partners and for them to

2252
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,880
work with us to provide a service that

2253
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:58,960
benefits both Scapus and the county in a

2254
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:00,639
way that we want to continue and and

2255
01:30:00,639 --> 01:30:02,159
they want to continue to contribute.

2256
01:30:02,159 --> 01:30:05,360
>> To clarify, Tyler, I I'm not sure to

2257
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,560
what extent the other communities were

2258
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:12,560
like um uh part of the grant application

2259
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,520
so much as they probably wrote letters

2260
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,400
of support towards that grant. Um, but I

2261
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,320
don't know that they were co-licants.

2262
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,239
Just full transparency.

2263
01:30:22,239 --> 01:30:23,679
>> Okay. Let me ask in a different way

2264
01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:26,480
then. So, if we were to apply and run,

2265
01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:28,719
so right now the way this is designed is

2266
01:30:28,719 --> 01:30:33,120
to help other areas outside of Scapuse,

2267
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:34,960
could we apply for that grant and have

2268
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,840
that position focused 100% on Scapus or

2269
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,120
do you think that that wouldn't work

2270
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,120
because the success of getting those

2271
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,440
grants is based on us helping all the

2272
01:30:43,440 --> 01:30:46,320
other neighboring cities?

2273
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:50,400
>> Yeah. What are they? My my my thing is what Sorry, Ben. What are they

2274
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,320
contributing

2275
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,360
>> um to this and do we anticipate getting

2276
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,440
anything from those other municipalities

2277
01:30:57,440 --> 01:31:00,000
that we're assisting?

2278
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:03,360
>> Couple things there. Um first of all,

2279
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,400
the grant funding can do all of these

2280
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,719
all of this work and the deliverables I

2281
01:31:08,719 --> 01:31:10,960
just mentioned without contributions

2282
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,920
from the cities. What the contributions

2283
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,280
from the cities add to the pot, if you

2284
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,800
will, is is that we could then do this

2285
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,320
one-on-one

2286
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,040
um business coaching and could put on

2287
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:26,880
potentially, you know, additional

2288
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:28,800
trainings beyond the grant-f funded

2289
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,840
trainings for uh different business

2290
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:35,120
resource um trainings. So,

2291
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:38,320
the grant funding covers Sierra 100% and

2292
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,960
covers um and covers these deliverables,

2293
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:42,880
but there are additional services we

2294
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:44,800
would like to be able to offer like the

2295
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:46,719
one-on-one business coaching. That does

2296
01:31:46,719 --> 01:31:48,159
not happen unless we get those

2297
01:31:48,159 --> 01:31:50,320
additional contributions.

2298
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:54,159
in terms of ci could we apply for these

2299
01:31:54,159 --> 01:31:57,040
grants and keep that money inhouse just

2300
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,760
to serve scapus. My sense is that the

2301
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,159
way and and uh you know full

2302
01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:04,800
transparency I'm still coming up to

2303
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,120
speed on these grants. uh I didn't write

2304
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,120
them so I don't know all the rules and

2305
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:12,719
regulations but based on what I'm seeing

2306
01:32:12,719 --> 01:32:14,560
and kind of what the mission and the

2307
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,120
things I'm learning is that it it really

2308
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:21,199
is focused on this business ecosystem

2309
01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:24,080
building and I don't know that Scapus by

2310
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:27,920
itself would lend to kind of the lens

2311
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,760
that they're you know what the way that

2312
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:31,520
they're seeing this and approaching it

2313
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,040
and and Ben I don't know if you have

2314
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:35,920
more to add to that. Yeah, I would say

2315
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:37,679
that the grants were initially given for

2316
01:32:37,679 --> 01:32:39,040
business Oregon because it was

2317
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:42,000
benefiting the county as a so the ROI

2318
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,639
was a countywide initiative and it's for

2319
01:32:44,639 --> 01:32:46,639
the ecosystem. The the grow greater

2320
01:32:46,639 --> 01:32:48,800
grant was originally for St. Helens and

2321
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,400
went to St. Helens greater St. Helens

2322
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:52,719
area and then our proposal was to make

2323
01:32:52,719 --> 01:32:56,639
it countywide. uh these specific grants,

2324
01:32:56,639 --> 01:32:58,400
yeah, we're I would say it would be

2325
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,480
pretty hard to refocus those back to

2326
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:04,000
Scapus only um because of how they were

2327
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:05,520
initiated and grow is actually a very

2328
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,080
specific program that is not everywhere.

2329
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:09,440
There's only three or four other

2330
01:33:09,440 --> 01:33:11,199
communities in the state and it's for

2331
01:33:11,199 --> 01:33:13,679
similar things. So the fact that we when

2332
01:33:13,679 --> 01:33:15,600
advocated for these was with the

2333
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,360
position that we would be offering it

2334
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:18,960
both in Scapus and the rest of the

2335
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,800
county and that also um to that point is

2336
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,400
the future beyond the grants. They do

2337
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,320
have a limit on those grants if we want

2338
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:27,920
to continue having these economic

2339
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:29,920
development services. It is important

2340
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,199
that we build those relationships with

2341
01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:32,880
our county partners so that we can still

2342
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,760
have a funding source to keep this this

2343
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,400
department going. uh without that it

2344
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:39,520
doesn't just take away from the county

2345
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:40,960
but it takes away from scapus as well

2346
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:42,080
because we wouldn't be receiving it

2347
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:43,360
either.

2348
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:44,800
>> Thank you. Yeah, I just want to capture

2349
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,800
the contribution

2350
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:48,800
>> that those other municipalities are

2351
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,520
giving through basically an indirect uh

2352
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:52,960
method.

2353
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:56,239
>> Can I um I'm I'm been hearing they are

2354
01:33:56,239 --> 01:34:00,239
and they will. So I'm just just clarify

2355
01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:02,800
the when the agencies and departments

2356
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,800
and PUB and all that they were

2357
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,199
contributing or fund even Scapus was

2358
01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:11,040
giving money to CCT are they you're

2359
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:14,560
currently collecting the funds that CCT

2360
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,800
was collecting from these public

2361
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,360
agencies or you're thinking they will

2362
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:20,800
>> it is budgeted to we've had

2363
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:22,639
conversations with the counties and

2364
01:34:22,639 --> 01:34:24,320
other partners not all of them are going

2365
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,080
to come across and we've anticipated as

2366
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:29,360
such But um some of those because CCT

2367
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:32,320
also served uh business recruitment

2368
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,800
which we're not doing countywide. So

2369
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:36,719
there are some that have more of a focus

2370
01:34:36,719 --> 01:34:38,560
on that. Um but contribution came from

2371
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:39,760
cities that came from businesses. It

2372
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,960
came from um PUB and other there's a lot

2373
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:44,960
of resources or sources it came from. So

2374
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:46,639
those who have a vested interest still

2375
01:34:46,639 --> 01:34:48,639
we've had those conversations with some

2376
01:34:48,639 --> 01:34:51,600
are wait and see. Um, but we have

2377
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,840
anticipated as such in our budget that

2378
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,480
we want to get these programs to show. A

2379
01:34:56,480 --> 01:34:57,520
lot of the people in the county are

2380
01:34:57,520 --> 01:34:59,120
like, "It's in scapos. Are you guys

2381
01:34:59,120 --> 01:34:59,920
going to steal it at all? Are you

2382
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:00,880
actually going to help the county? Are

2383
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:01,920
you going to actually be able to deliver

2384
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,320
this stuff?" Luckily, the grants allow

2385
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,560
us that time before the time to actually

2386
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,120
show that we can do this at a place that

2387
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,440
helps both scapus and the county. And

2388
01:35:11,440 --> 01:35:14,159
then as that trust grows, we'll gain

2389
01:35:14,159 --> 01:35:15,440
back some of those who are not willing

2390
01:35:15,440 --> 01:35:17,920
to contribute at this time. to to answer

2391
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,520
your question though is um we have made

2392
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:27,760
the pitch to councils to um to PUB to

2393
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:31,600
different agencies. They are taking it

2394
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:33,600
under advisement. They are putting it in

2395
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:36,239
their budgets and then once we find out

2396
01:35:36,239 --> 01:35:38,239
what you know went into their budget

2397
01:35:38,239 --> 01:35:42,080
then July in July we would invoice them

2398
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,239
for whatever their contribution is and

2399
01:35:44,239 --> 01:35:45,840
then that money would come in. So, no,

2400
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,960
it has not been collected. Um, we are

2401
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:53,040
showing we are hoping for 120,000 in

2402
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:55,199
contributions, which was similar to what

2403
01:35:55,199 --> 01:35:58,639
CCT was collecting. 12,000 of that is

2404
01:35:58,639 --> 01:36:00,880
City of Scapoo's contribution, just like

2405
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:03,920
we did before. Um, but we won't know

2406
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:07,520
until until, you know, come July when

2407
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,320
they actually start cutting checks. And

2408
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,400
that's that that's that lever where if

2409
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,159
it doesn't come in, we don't spend it on

2410
01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:16,239
the one-on-one business coaching, right?

2411
01:36:16,239 --> 01:36:18,239
We can't spend it if it doesn't come in.

2412
01:36:18,239 --> 01:36:19,840
>> Okay. So, we didn't have a budget for

2413
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:20,480
this year.

2414
01:36:20,480 --> 01:36:23,120
>> Uh uh obviously this fiscal year because

2415
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:25,280
we didn't know this was happening. Next

2416
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,560
fiscal year, I'm I'm assuming 120 comes

2417
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,239
in. I don't know that we'll get that

2418
01:36:30,239 --> 01:36:31,679
full amount.

2419
01:36:31,679 --> 01:36:34,080
>> Um but if we don't, we don't spend it.

2420
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:35,920
If we do, we have more services to

2421
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:39,040
offer. Are you also um contributing the

2422
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:42,480
probably the uh revenue of charging for

2423
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:46,639
classes or partly or uh so the grants

2424
01:36:46,639 --> 01:36:49,920
are covering the classes the cost of the

2425
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,719
classes and the food and the you know

2426
01:36:52,719 --> 01:36:56,320
extras and all the stuff um we have

2427
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,080
toyed with and I think in the future

2428
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,080
there will be some nominal cost because

2429
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,480
it does show a value when you do that.

2430
01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:03,440
Yeah. Yeah.

2431
01:37:03,440 --> 01:37:06,480
>> So, um I think initially we just we want

2432
01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:08,080
to be out there. We want to be in the

2433
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:09,760
communities. We want to show that we

2434
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,560
have um services. Um we know a lot of

2435
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,560
businesses are struggling right now. So,

2436
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,400
we feel like it's it's really worth it

2437
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,560
to especially the grants are covering

2438
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,960
it, right? So, in the future there will

2439
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:22,960
probably be more discussion around some

2440
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:24,320
charge for services.

2441
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:25,760
>> Yeah. And one point of additional

2442
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,000
clarification, this is still really new.

2443
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,960
Our official launch is tomorrow at at

2444
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,280
the John Gum building. Um so there's

2445
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,679
still a lot of discussions going on. Um

2446
01:37:35,679 --> 01:37:37,199
we've met with a lot of the city

2447
01:37:37,199 --> 01:37:40,880
managers, city administrators, the uh

2448
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:42,560
executive directors, met with some

2449
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:43,840
councils, but there's still more

2450
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:45,840
conversations that we're working through

2451
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,000
as we're trying to rope down what it's

2452
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:50,719
going to look like specifically. That's

2453
01:37:50,719 --> 01:37:52,400
why we give ourselves enough leeway for

2454
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:54,639
what we plan with some room that if it

2455
01:37:54,639 --> 01:37:57,280
doesn't happen, we're fine. um that

2456
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,920
there's there's a lot of unknowns from

2457
01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:01,360
outside partners wanting to see what's

2458
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:02,400
going to happen and how it's going to

2459
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:03,920
work. So, it's it's still a work in

2460
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,280
progress, but um because we're able to

2461
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:08,800
rope those grants together, it gives us

2462
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,360
that room to to work through it to to

2463
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:12,800
make it happen. The other reason

2464
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:14,400
nothing's coming from until next year is

2465
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:15,920
everybody already contributed to C,

2466
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:16,320
right?

2467
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:17,360
>> So, they're waiting till their new

2468
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,199
fiscal year before they're willing to to

2469
01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:21,520
contribute again to anything. So,

2470
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,320
>> and a lot a lot of the issue CT had was

2471
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:27,760
questions of how to charge people for

2472
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:29,520
one-on-one advising or this help and

2473
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:30,719
they couldn't it was really hard. We

2474
01:38:30,719 --> 01:38:32,960
couldn't even come up with a plan a way

2475
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,280
to fund them for so many hours, you

2476
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:36,480
know, and different levels of

2477
01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:39,679
sponsorship. It was tough. Um, but I do

2478
01:38:39,679 --> 01:38:41,600
think like with the grow through CCT,

2479
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,400
grow is really St. Helen specific. So we

2480
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,320
have an economic development committee,

2481
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:47,840
you know, now if that we saw a grant

2482
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:49,840
that would really help us or a program

2483
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:52,159
would really help us specifically. I

2484
01:38:52,159 --> 01:38:53,520
think I would hope they would have the

2485
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,679
ability to go after some other grants

2486
01:38:55,679 --> 01:38:56,719
too and additional

2487
01:38:56,719 --> 01:38:58,159
>> right and the grow program is really

2488
01:38:58,159 --> 01:38:59,440
exciting for all of our businesses in

2489
01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:01,360
the county and in in Scapus because they

2490
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,480
have grants that are under 3% uh or

2491
01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:07,440
they're low sorry loans

2492
01:39:07,440 --> 01:39:10,080
>> um for 3% for up to 50,000 and then we

2493
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:13,440
have a KA loan that's uh 0% for 15. So

2494
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:15,440
there's access to capital at a really

2495
01:39:15,440 --> 01:39:17,440
inexpensive rate that we get for our

2496
01:39:17,440 --> 01:39:19,520
businesses as well as a countywide that

2497
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,239
were not there before. That should help.

2498
01:39:22,239 --> 01:39:23,840
Um and that that's what to me one of the

2499
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:25,040
biggest things I'm excited to get out

2500
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:26,320
there make sure businesses are aware of.

2501
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,320
So if they want to grow or start there's

2502
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:29,760
some access to capital at a really

2503
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:31,679
inexpensive way to and and support to

2504
01:39:31,679 --> 01:39:32,880
make it happen.

2505
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:34,560
>> But if going forward too if you have a

2506
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:37,600
French aerospace company come in C is no

2507
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,119
longer there but now it's us. They can

2508
01:39:39,119 --> 01:39:40,960
go through business Oregon and us and we

2509
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:42,719
still have that ability to go after

2510
01:39:42,719 --> 01:39:44,000
those businesses.

2511
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,600
>> Yeah. Now, Business Oregon through their

2512
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:47,040
prospector worked with each individual

2513
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:49,440
city at this point and then we'll work

2514
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:51,119
with those where wherever those

2515
01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:53,199
aerospace companies or whatever company

2516
01:39:53,199 --> 01:39:55,440
may be would be interested in going to.

2517
01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:58,719
So, they work with whatever area um with

2518
01:39:58,719 --> 01:40:00,880
those businesses and and the city

2519
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:01,920
managers. I

2520
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,800
>> think that will help us.

2521
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:08,719
Um, did we take a break last year?

2522
01:40:08,719 --> 01:40:11,040
I mean, is it's online and recorded, but

2523
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:12,880
can we take a break since we're about

2524
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:14,880
halfway done?

2525
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:16,800
>> Um, mayor needs a break.

2526
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,960
>> No, I'm good. But, um, try to see. Is

2527
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,719
there a good one to take a break after?

2528
01:40:20,719 --> 01:40:26,149
We're about an hour and a half in. Um,

2529
01:40:26,159 --> 01:40:27,760
» let's just go. Let's give me a couple

2530
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:29,760
more. Let's get to the SDC's. Let's get

2531
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:31,360
through these real quick. Street Fund

2532
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,920
20, page 80.

2533
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:37,119
like to continue I guess.

2534
01:40:37,119 --> 01:40:38,880
>> All right. Well, good evening everyone.

2535
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:40,400
Um bear with me because you'll have me

2536
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:41,920
for the next five. So maybe we can just

2537
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:42,960
run through that and then you take a

2538
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:43,760
break.

2539
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,560
>> Uh street fund. So always an interesting

2540
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,880
topic. Uh when I started here nine years

2541
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,760
ago, this fund was in dire straits and

2542
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,239
uh with some careful work and and

2543
01:40:54,239 --> 01:40:56,000
strategy, we've turned it around and now

2544
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:57,280
it's actually a very healthy fund and

2545
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,040
we're excited because there's some big

2546
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,280
capital projects on the horizon for it.

2547
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:02,639
So I'll run through the revenues real

2548
01:41:02,639 --> 01:41:04,159
quick. The street fund receives its

2549
01:41:04,159 --> 01:41:06,239
revenues from multiple sources. We

2550
01:41:06,239 --> 01:41:08,400
receive the state gas tax which is based

2551
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,440
on revenues collected distributed

2552
01:41:11,440 --> 01:41:13,199
between cities, the state and the

2553
01:41:13,199 --> 01:41:15,360
counties. And then per capita we get a

2554
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:16,560
certain percentage. We've been hovering

2555
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,800
around the 650,000 mark. This year was

2556
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,280
projected for 6547

2557
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:24,320
which is $7,900 higher than last year.

2558
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,480
Uh our local fuel tax brings in very

2559
01:41:26,480 --> 01:41:28,800
consistently $250,000

2560
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,600
within a few bucks every year. Um, and

2561
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:33,920
then we also receive federal fuel tax

2562
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:35,920
that goes through the exchange program

2563
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,159
which has to be identified for capital

2564
01:41:38,159 --> 01:41:40,800
projects. Uh, we're bringing in 103,000

2565
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:42,239
on that. It's been just slowly and

2566
01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:43,920
incrementally going up every year a

2567
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:45,920
couple thousand. I think my first year

2568
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:48,639
here was like 72 or 78,000. So slow

2569
01:41:48,639 --> 01:41:50,960
increases. Um, with the fund being

2570
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:52,960
healthy, interest is up. Uh, we're

2571
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:54,800
projecting that at 85,000 for the year,

2572
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:57,440
which is 25,000 more than last year. and

2573
01:41:57,440 --> 01:41:58,800
credits back to those interest rates

2574
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:00,560
that Carol was referring to earlier.

2575
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:02,239
That's been very beneficial for the

2576
01:42:02,239 --> 01:42:05,520
city. Um the working capital carryover

2577
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,800
was 3,367,5

2578
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:10,639
for the year given a total resources of

2579
01:42:10,639 --> 01:42:14,070
4,459152.

2580
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:16,560
Uh personal services for the year is

2581
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,920
projected at 27700 which is down 20

2582
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:21,840
almost $29,000.

2583
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:23,280
Uh over the years we've been learning

2584
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:24,960
what our staff is doing and adjusting

2585
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:26,639
our budgets accordingly to right size

2586
01:42:26,639 --> 01:42:29,199
them to where the workforce is being

2587
01:42:29,199 --> 01:42:31,600
used. Uh materials and services is at

2588
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:36,080
275 586 which is up $46,000 this year

2589
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:37,920
mostly because material costs for us

2590
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:39,840
that covers the striping materials

2591
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:43,440
crosswalk things signs etc. Um we're

2592
01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:44,960
going to be doing a lot of that work

2593
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,360
this year uh as soon as the temperatures

2594
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,840
warm up. And then capital projects for

2595
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:51,840
the year. We've got a paving project out

2596
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,000
to bid right now which is going to do

2597
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,080
four blocks of this region of town.

2598
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:57,440
We're going to be doing part of Elm

2599
01:42:57,440 --> 01:43:01,520
Street, third from Columbia down to uh

2600
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:04,400
Elm and then uh Oak and Myrtle will be

2601
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:05,920
getting paved as well. So we're excited

2602
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:08,159
for that. We're estimating that project

2603
01:43:08,159 --> 01:43:10,880
to be somewhere between 5 and 700,000.

2604
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,040
With oil prices up, that does impact

2605
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:14,320
asphalt costs. So we're going to wait

2606
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:15,520
and see what the numbers look like

2607
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,520
there. You know, we're also excited to

2608
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:20,000
kick off the design um of the Vine

2609
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:21,920
Street project, which is all of the

2610
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,800
sidewalks that we promoted when we've

2611
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:26,560
moved forward with the local fuel tax

2612
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:27,920
that we wanted to accomplish and we're

2613
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,159
finally in a position to do that. Um

2614
01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:32,080
once that project is complete, if the

2615
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:33,440
funding is still there, then we'll

2616
01:43:33,440 --> 01:43:35,600
probably move over to JP West and work

2617
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,239
from first up to the park and to get

2618
01:43:38,239 --> 01:43:40,159
that widen some sidewalks because that's

2619
01:43:40,159 --> 01:43:43,600
another priority route for us. Um with

2620
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:49,189
that, I'll take any questions.

2621
01:43:49,199 --> 01:43:52,480
I have a couple. Um, so when does the

2622
01:43:52,480 --> 01:43:55,119
local uh fuel tax expire? Is that in

2623
01:43:55,119 --> 01:43:56,239
2029?

2624
01:43:56,239 --> 01:43:57,600
>> Yes, I believe so.

2625
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,000
>> Okay. Do are we foreseeing needing to

2626
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:00,880
renew that?

2627
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:02,639
>> I would highly encourage that when that

2628
01:44:02,639 --> 01:44:04,080
time starts nearing that we start

2629
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:05,199
working on that. Yes.

2630
01:44:05,199 --> 01:44:06,639
>> Okay. So, one thing I would I mean I

2631
01:44:06,639 --> 01:44:08,080
think these budgets are great not only

2632
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:09,760
for financial accountability but for

2633
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:11,520
some storytelling and building a

2634
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,760
narrative. Um, I would maybe suggest

2635
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:15,760
either in this version for the final

2636
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,520
version or in next year's budget, we

2637
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:20,400
list those projects that the community's

2638
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,040
really benefited from. So, um, it can

2639
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:23,840
quickly be ref.

2640
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:25,520
>> Yeah. When that time draws near, my

2641
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:27,199
anticipation would be is that would be

2642
01:44:27,199 --> 01:44:29,760
our ATM topic, and we would have a

2643
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:31,679
slideshow with all of the projects, the

2644
01:44:31,679 --> 01:44:33,360
dollars, each one, it costs, what we've

2645
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,080
accomplished, and tell a very, very

2646
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:37,840
thorough tale. That's that's how we

2647
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,159
promoted the local fuel attacks is we

2648
01:44:40,159 --> 01:44:42,480
were at the ATM and several other things

2649
01:44:42,480 --> 01:44:44,159
telling the whole story so that the

2650
01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:46,159
community could understand the need and

2651
01:44:46,159 --> 01:44:48,159
so yes we will be working on it when the

2652
01:44:48,159 --> 01:44:48,480
time

2653
01:44:48,480 --> 01:44:49,679
>> so that might be one we want to start

2654
01:44:49,679 --> 01:44:52,080
building in 2027

2655
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:54,159
that story

2656
01:44:54,159 --> 01:44:57,280
>> and going on this fiveyear CIP all the

2657
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:01,119
funding is based on this current

2658
01:45:01,119 --> 01:45:03,920
gas tax like you have some funding out

2659
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:08,080
there in 2029 2030, but that would be

2660
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:09,679
based on

2661
01:45:09,679 --> 01:45:11,920
>> the the CIP is based on that and that

2662
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,239
federal exchange because we we know

2663
01:45:14,239 --> 01:45:15,520
we're going to be getting at least that

2664
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,320
$100,000 in every year. The state fuel

2665
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:20,159
tax basically covers our personnel and

2666
01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:22,320
operational costs. And then those other

2667
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,159
two, the local fuel tax and this the

2668
01:45:24,159 --> 01:45:26,400
federal, that's our capital. That's what

2669
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:28,239
we save up every few years. We'll do an

2670
01:45:28,239 --> 01:45:30,239
overlay project when we have enough to

2671
01:45:30,239 --> 01:45:32,480
justify doing that.

2672
01:45:32,480 --> 01:45:34,960
If the project's too small, the costs

2673
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,520
for the project go up. Contractors like

2674
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,360
to buy into big projects that lower

2675
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,440
their price and do it by volume. So, if

2676
01:45:41,440 --> 01:45:43,119
we do that at the half a million dollar

2677
01:45:43,119 --> 01:45:47,990
mark, we get a better deal.

2678
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,560
Any other questions?

2679
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,800
>> I noticed we we got a grant a couple

2680
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:55,600
years ago for safe route to school. They

2681
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,239
came out and did a study basically found

2682
01:45:58,239 --> 01:46:01,600
that we weren't qualified for any

2683
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:02,719
>> additional.

2684
01:46:02,719 --> 01:46:05,199
>> We don't score well for safe routes.

2685
01:46:05,199 --> 01:46:10,400
This community is just too wealthy for that. Um we actually score very

2686
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,239
poorly on that because of that

2687
01:46:12,239 --> 01:46:15,040
typically. So that at this time until

2688
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:16,480
the state changes that and we've had a

2689
01:46:16,480 --> 01:46:17,840
lot of discussions with them about

2690
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:20,560
changing that criteria. I think they do

2691
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:24,239
it on um free lunch type program or

2692
01:46:24,239 --> 01:46:25,600
something. I can't remember the criteria

2693
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:27,920
that that's aligned with, but it it's

2694
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:29,600
very challenging for communities like us

2695
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:31,920
that are are small and don't bring in

2696
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:33,840
the streets revenue regardless of the

2697
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:36,639
health of the the schools that that

2698
01:46:36,639 --> 01:46:38,480
aligns it because it in the reality it

2699
01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:39,920
doesn't. So, we've we've had lots of

2700
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:41,360
talks with them trying to improve that

2701
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:43,119
program.

2702
01:46:43,119 --> 01:46:45,679
However, the county did do a safe route

2703
01:46:45,679 --> 01:46:47,920
one and studied the corridors around the

2704
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:49,600
schools and we do have that data. They

2705
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:53,199
shared all that with us. So,

2706
01:46:53,199 --> 01:46:54,239
great.

2707
01:46:54,239 --> 01:46:55,360
Move on then.

2708
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:55,679
>> All right.

2709
01:46:55,679 --> 01:46:57,040
>> Number 21,

2710
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,600
>> foot paths. So, footpaths is based on 1%

2711
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,560
of that state gas tax. Um, historically,

2712
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:04,800
we've been using this money towards the

2713
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,199
sidewalk repair program, which we offer

2714
01:47:07,199 --> 01:47:09,119
to anybody in the community who has

2715
01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:11,520
sidewalks that are in dire need of

2716
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,600
replacement or repair. Uh, we will

2717
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:16,480
contribute up to $2,000 or 50% of their

2718
01:47:16,480 --> 01:47:19,040
project, whichever is greater. Um, we

2719
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:20,880
have not had a lot of interest in this

2720
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,040
program in the last couple of years, but

2721
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:24,880
we are planning on pitching that one

2722
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,040
more year. What I highly recommend is if

2723
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:28,800
this doesn't move forward over this next

2724
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,199
year, that we take these funds and go

2725
01:47:31,199 --> 01:47:37,040
start doing wheelchair replacement ramp replacements throughout the city in

2726
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:38,880
advance of pavement overlay projects

2727
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:40,719
because the law won't allow us to do an

2728
01:47:40,719 --> 01:47:42,480
overlay project without being ADA

2729
01:47:42,480 --> 01:47:45,040
compliant on the sidewalks. So, if this

2730
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:46,560
fund continues to grow without

2731
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:48,480
expenditures, we need to come up with

2732
01:47:48,480 --> 01:47:49,679
plan B, and that would be my

2733
01:47:49,679 --> 01:47:51,920
recommendation. So, we're going to hold

2734
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,080
status quo. Uh, we do have our new

2735
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:55,920
contract administrator who is very good

2736
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:57,360
on social media and things, and she's

2737
01:47:57,360 --> 01:47:58,800
already been building a program that

2738
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:00,560
we're going to get out there and try to

2739
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,080
help encourage people to do that. We've

2740
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:03,679
also talked about raising the limits.

2741
01:48:03,679 --> 01:48:05,679
Maybe we're going to have to give more

2742
01:48:05,679 --> 01:48:07,679
with the way things cost nowadays just

2743
01:48:07,679 --> 01:48:08,400
to help them out.

2744
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,440
>> I thought I saw increasing the amount.

2745
01:48:11,440 --> 01:48:12,800
>> We did double it. It used to be a

2746
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,040
thousand. and it's at two now and maybe

2747
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:19,040
that's just not enough yet. So,

2748
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:20,560
um I can run through the numbers real

2749
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:22,960
quick. So, the beginning capital is

2750
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,520
26615

2751
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,679
interest is projected at 5,000 which is

2752
01:48:27,679 --> 01:48:30,080
the same as previous year. Um the

2753
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:32,960
revenue is like as I said the 1% so it's

2754
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:35,199
at 6 6,600

2755
01:48:35,199 --> 01:48:37,119
given total resources for the fund of

2756
01:48:37,119 --> 01:48:38,960
278415

2757
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:40,880
materials and services we only plug in

2758
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,520
3,000 that's if we do something with our

2759
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:46,400
crews on one of those sidewalks. Um

2760
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:48,239
capital outlay for the year is 40,000

2761
01:48:48,239 --> 01:48:50,000
which is money allocated towards the

2762
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:53,840
program leaving a contingency of 235415

2763
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:57,760
balancing the budget at 278415.

2764
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:01,430
Any questions?

2765
01:49:01,440 --> 01:49:03,360
Good. Moving on.

2766
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:05,760
>> Storm water drainage fund. So, a couple

2767
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,600
of years ago, we did the master plan

2768
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:11,119
update. Um, got our CIPs up to date and

2769
01:49:11,119 --> 01:49:13,440
work through the revenues that should be

2770
01:49:13,440 --> 01:49:15,520
brought in. We adjusted the storm water

2771
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:18,800
fees accordingly. That has now put this

2772
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:20,960
uh fund into a position where it's

2773
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,280
functioning. For several years, we were

2774
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:25,440
only paying a small portion of costs out

2775
01:49:25,440 --> 01:49:27,040
of this to build the fund. It's now

2776
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,280
there fully developed. So, we're we're

2777
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:31,199
pulling for FTEEs out of it now

2778
01:49:31,199 --> 01:49:32,880
officially. We're paying equipment costs

2779
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:35,119
out of it. Uh we're using our vector

2780
01:49:35,119 --> 01:49:36,880
truck extensively through this. So,

2781
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:38,960
there's costs there. All of the debris

2782
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:40,560
that we hauled away from the cleaning

2783
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:42,239
the catch basin, so on so forth, street

2784
01:49:42,239 --> 01:49:44,000
sweeping, that all comes out of this

2785
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:46,800
fund. Um so, with that, I'll start

2786
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:47,760
running through the numbers. The

2787
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:49,440
beginning cash for this fund right now

2788
01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:52,320
is 2,74684,

2789
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:55,199
which is up 479,000 from the previous

2790
01:49:55,199 --> 01:49:57,360
year. That is due to the fact that we

2791
01:49:57,360 --> 01:49:58,960
have not been doing capital projects as

2792
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:01,119
of yet. That is currently in the works.

2793
01:50:01,119 --> 01:50:03,040
I'll get on that in just a second. Uh

2794
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:05,360
interest income because of that fund is

2795
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:07,920
$80,000 which is up 45,000 from last

2796
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:10,400
year. And charges for service for the

2797
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,520
fund or will be projected at 1,110,000

2798
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:16,000
which is up 141955 from the previous

2799
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:17,760
year.

2800
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:22,560
Um giving total resources of 3,936184.

2801
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:25,360
Personal services for this one is 369

2802
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:29,040
which is now up 400 or 48,727.

2803
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:30,960
As I mentioned earlier, we're adjusting

2804
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:33,280
these personnel costs to what our crews

2805
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:35,119
are actually doing. They're doing much

2806
01:50:35,119 --> 01:50:36,719
more storm work now than they used to.

2807
01:50:36,719 --> 01:50:39,040
So, there is an increase in that. Uh

2808
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:41,679
materials and services are up as well um

2809
01:50:41,679 --> 01:50:43,679
at 317836

2810
01:50:43,679 --> 01:50:45,840
which is up 61,000 from the previous

2811
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,320
year once again as we're doing more work

2812
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:50,560
in the storm water department. uh

2813
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,520
capital outlay which is primarily we're

2814
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:55,440
partnering with the Scapus Bay wershed

2815
01:50:55,440 --> 01:50:57,520
on some more layback projects this

2816
01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:59,600
summer we're going to be doing a layback

2817
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:01,600
if all you are familiar with Veterans

2818
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,280
Park we've been working on the referian

2819
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:04,880
boundary of the creek we're going to be

2820
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,360
doing that on the conley side along the

2821
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:09,280
park there that'll be our big project

2822
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:11,840
for this year we're also in talks with

2823
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,880
an engineer to design three storm water

2824
01:51:14,880 --> 01:51:16,639
projects over on the east side of town

2825
01:51:16,639 --> 01:51:18,480
as many of you who travel through town

2826
01:51:18,480 --> 01:51:20,480
realize over here most of these streets

2827
01:51:20,480 --> 01:51:22,080
flood during the rain events. We're

2828
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,400
working to improve that um with this

2829
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:25,360
funds as well.

2830
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:26,880
>> I have a question there. Yeah. When you

2831
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:28,719
redo the sidewalks from Vine and all

2832
01:51:28,719 --> 01:51:30,880
these projects, is some of that storm

2833
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:31,679
water?

2834
01:51:31,679 --> 01:51:33,199
>> Yes.

2835
01:51:33,199 --> 01:51:35,119
>> Y

2836
01:51:35,119 --> 01:51:37,360
um the one of the big areas. Well, we

2837
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:39,920
have two things is we have a DEEQ UIC

2838
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:42,000
retrofit project. DEEQ mandated a

2839
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:43,360
several year to make some improvements

2840
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:45,040
to our storm water system. We haven't

2841
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:47,440
had the funds until now. So, we're going

2842
01:51:47,440 --> 01:51:49,119
to be working on that as one of them.

2843
01:51:49,119 --> 01:51:51,840
the other, like I said, over um two

2844
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:54,239
blocks over here on second floods

2845
01:51:54,239 --> 01:51:56,000
extensively. If you go down second here,

2846
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:57,520
you'll see it flood extensively down

2847
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,679
towards and so we're going to that those

2848
01:51:59,679 --> 01:52:01,760
are our primary kickoff projects and

2849
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,239
then we'll move on from there. Um the

2850
01:52:04,239 --> 01:52:05,840
contingency will still be left at

2851
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:08,950
1,93868

2852
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:13,830
balancing the budget at 3,936,184.

2853
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:20,229
questions on

2854
01:52:20,239 --> 01:52:22,000
we need a line item for a confidential

2855
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:23,360
waterhed.

2856
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,679
>> We would

2857
01:52:25,679 --> 01:52:28,960
>> that that would be my advice that it

2858
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:32,560
relates to so many different

2859
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:34,639
new developments talking about flooded

2860
01:52:34,639 --> 01:52:42,790
area without that water stud.

2861
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:44,239
Okay.

2862
01:52:44,239 --> 01:52:47,040
Um, I can look and see. We could look at

2863
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:48,880
doing that through the capital. We'll

2864
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:50,560
have to see if that aligns and what that

2865
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:53,360
scope looks like. We also do uh budget

2866
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:56,880
engineering money for this fund. So, I

2867
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:58,320
can talk with Ben about what that might

2868
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:01,119
look like.

2869
01:53:01,119 --> 01:53:03,440
>> And that that's good. I mean, this would

2870
01:53:03,440 --> 01:53:05,280
make more sense in the storm water. I

2871
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:09,679
mean, could we have um the same the

2872
01:53:09,679 --> 01:53:11,679
transportation study coming up too? I

2873
01:53:11,679 --> 01:53:14,000
mean, is that could have anything to do

2874
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:15,199
with?

2875
01:53:15,199 --> 01:53:17,119
>> No, I I would I would want to learn more

2876
01:53:17,119 --> 01:53:18,480
about what Joel's talking about because

2877
01:53:18,480 --> 01:53:20,719
some of that data may be represented in

2878
01:53:20,719 --> 01:53:23,040
our stormwater master plan. So, what we

2879
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:24,560
would need to do is see what that scope

2880
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:26,880
would look like over and above and see

2881
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:28,400
what additional storm water work would

2882
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:29,840
need to be done.

2883
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,719
>> Council President Miller,

2884
01:53:32,719 --> 01:53:34,560
>> thank you. Uh Dave, um you mentioned

2885
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:36,719
that there's a lot more storm drainage

2886
01:53:36,719 --> 01:53:39,119
work going on. Can you uh touch on that

2887
01:53:39,119 --> 01:53:41,520
just a little bit?

2888
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:43,360
Uh is are you talking about the

2889
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:44,560
maintenance side of it that I mentioned

2890
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:46,639
or just on the capital?

2891
01:53:46,639 --> 01:53:48,000
>> Well, when you're going through the the

2892
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:49,840
line items here, you mentioned that um

2893
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:51,440
there's a lot more storm drainage work

2894
01:53:51,440 --> 01:53:53,119
going on, which I believe was

2895
01:53:53,119 --> 01:53:54,880
articulating why.

2896
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:57,199
>> Yeah. Well, it's both. So, maintenance-

2897
01:53:57,199 --> 01:53:59,199
wise, now that we have a true storm

2898
01:53:59,199 --> 01:54:01,599
water fund and and can staff it, we're

2899
01:54:01,599 --> 01:54:04,560
doing more catch basin cleaning, drywall

2900
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:06,560
cleaning, pipe cleaning. We now

2901
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,360
purchased a TV truck. um the TV truck is

2902
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:11,760
going to start doing anal analyzing of

2903
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:14,080
CCTV of all the pipes. So that's the

2904
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:15,119
kind of thing that we're going to be

2905
01:54:15,119 --> 01:54:16,960
doing there. And then these capital

2906
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:20,239
projects are new as well. So does that

2907
01:54:20,239 --> 01:54:21,520
help?

2908
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,599
>> Yes. Thank you.

2909
01:54:23,599 --> 01:54:26,080
>> So Dave is the uh contractual and

2910
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:29,119
professional you said last in another

2911
01:54:29,119 --> 01:54:30,880
somebody said it was attorneys. So are

2912
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:33,119
we paying that much more for attorneys

2913
01:54:33,119 --> 01:54:39,430
or what what covers under line item 230?

2914
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:42,000
Um that is attorneys.

2915
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:45,270
See here

2916
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:51,990
more detail

2917
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,000
» and that also includes those other costs

2918
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:56,000
like a lot of times you know software

2919
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:57,840
and stuff like that that have gone back

2920
01:54:57,840 --> 01:54:58,960
to the departments.

2921
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:01,119
>> Yeah, we used to have

2922
01:55:01,119 --> 01:55:02,719
we don't anymore. So let me look here

2923
01:55:02,719 --> 01:55:03,440
real quick.

2924
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:05,679
>> Pretty hard to compare. So because it

2925
01:55:05,679 --> 01:55:07,440
did go up a lot but so did so did

2926
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:10,480
straight so did all of them went up.

2927
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:13,440
>> So 13,000 of that is partnership with

2928
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:16,400
the RIGA with Scapus Bay wershed.

2929
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:20,239
There's 6,000 for the attorney. Um and

2930
01:55:20,239 --> 01:55:22,159
then there's 30,000 identified for storm

2931
01:55:22,159 --> 01:55:24,320
water contracts and the big one is

2932
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:26,560
50,000 for contract engineering because

2933
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:29,199
the CDC's want to do a public works

2934
01:55:29,199 --> 01:55:31,040
design standard update. That's the big

2935
01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:32,960
ticket item that jumped this one up is

2936
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:35,119
for that work. Oh, so that's why you

2937
01:55:35,119 --> 01:55:36,800
wanted to do a different line, excuse

2938
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:38,800
me, line item for engineering. Is that

2939
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:40,719
why you were saying

2940
01:55:40,719 --> 01:55:42,960
>> we don't have an engineering line item?

2941
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:44,880
So, it falls under this category and

2942
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:46,880
that's where this is allocated. So,

2943
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:50,000
50,000 of that 230 is just to do design

2944
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:53,599
standard up update.

2945
01:55:53,599 --> 01:55:55,199
>> Well, I like your idea that it probably

2946
01:55:55,199 --> 01:55:57,199
should be a different line item. I don't

2947
01:55:57,199 --> 01:55:59,360
know. Just

2948
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:01,599
because it's I don't know, just a lot. I

2949
01:56:01,599 --> 01:56:03,599
mean there's a lot in that just one line

2950
01:56:03,599 --> 01:56:06,000
item that we can see.

2951
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:07,599
>> Yeah. But it fluctuates. There's not

2952
01:56:07,599 --> 01:56:11,119
always a dedicated engineering cost. So,

2953
01:56:11,119 --> 01:56:11,760
>> right.

2954
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:13,280
>> It's all just contractual professional

2955
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:14,320
based on the year.

2956
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:15,440
>> Yeah. I was going to say typically with

2957
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:16,960
accounting you just group similar type

2958
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:18,639
of things together and then we have

2959
01:56:18,639 --> 01:56:20,719
breakdown for I mean a lot of these line

2960
01:56:20,719 --> 01:56:22,639
items will have quite a few things in

2961
01:56:22,639 --> 01:56:24,239
like publications. We don't we don't

2962
01:56:24,239 --> 01:56:26,560
make a separate line item per like

2963
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:29,760
computer software unnecessarily. We can,

2964
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:33,920
but it's usually um

2965
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:35,520
>> Yeah. Right.

2966
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:37,440
>> There's 20 items identified in there

2967
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:39,920
that even are very generic of that. So,

2968
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:41,599
>> well, thank you for identifying them.

2969
01:56:41,599 --> 01:56:45,510
>> Yeah.

2970
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:47,679
» Good there. I was just going to say in

2971
01:56:47,679 --> 01:56:49,199
response to Joel's questions about the

2972
01:56:49,199 --> 01:56:50,400
uh the study though, that would be

2973
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:52,080
something I would recommend. Yeah, you

2974
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:53,360
could probably look in one of your other

2975
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:55,040
line items. It's not currently a council

2976
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:56,480
priority, but to be discussed obviously

2977
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:57,840
with the the council if that's something

2978
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:00,080
to designate staff time towards this

2979
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:01,280
year or if that's going to be next year

2980
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,400
as a future line item. Um, but that's

2981
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:05,920
something we can continue to work on as

2982
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:08,880
we identify if that is going to be a

2983
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:09,840
project,

2984
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:12,080
>> right? It replaces so many things we're

2985
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:15,679
doing. Um, and and the reality is what

2986
01:57:15,679 --> 01:57:18,719
we're dealing with is old data from old

2987
01:57:18,719 --> 01:57:20,560
studies and they didn't it was nothing

2988
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:22,480
comprehensive had ever been done.

2989
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:24,400
Capital Bay Wershed Council really wants

2990
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:26,480
to have this done having instrumentation

2991
01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:29,199
in the creek so we can we can judge temp

2992
01:57:29,199 --> 01:57:31,199
thermal thermal gradients for examining

2993
01:57:31,199 --> 01:57:33,440
the habitat. There's so many elements of

2994
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:35,679
this that we need to address if we don't

2995
01:57:35,679 --> 01:57:39,119
get started thinking about that keep on

2996
01:57:39,119 --> 01:57:40,639
kicking the can down the road.

2997
01:57:40,639 --> 01:57:42,080
>> Well, I agree I agree with that. It was

2998
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:43,920
just we have limited staff time, limited

2999
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:45,760
resources with council priorities and

3000
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:47,599
other projects that we try to designate

3001
01:57:47,599 --> 01:57:48,960
which one, you know, we put the budget

3002
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:50,880
together with what the council and staff

3003
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:52,239
current projects are. That could be a

3004
01:57:52,239 --> 01:57:54,080
future project. It could still be this a

3005
01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:56,159
year. It's just that would be a for

3006
01:57:56,159 --> 01:57:57,679
future discussion that was not current

3007
01:57:57,679 --> 01:57:59,119
in this because it has not been

3008
01:57:59,119 --> 01:58:00,800
identified as something that we need to

3009
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:03,119
put over other projects at this time.

3010
01:58:03,119 --> 01:58:05,280
>> But anyway, like you said, I've in there

3011
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:08,480
at least at least we have a basis for

3012
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:10,560
>> is that something we could partner with

3013
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:14,159
county and water vet and I mean is there

3014
01:58:14,159 --> 01:58:16,239
any group? They're probably not because

3015
01:58:16,239 --> 01:58:18,400
this is this is this is community

3016
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:20,400
specific

3017
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:22,400
>> that and that's what what needs to

3018
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:23,760
that's what we need to address. We

3019
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:25,119
should have done it years ago but we

3020
01:58:25,119 --> 01:58:27,280
have

3021
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:29,679
>> Joel what was the what was the dollar

3022
01:58:29,679 --> 01:58:31,599
amountish

3023
01:58:31,599 --> 01:58:35,280
>> well it was the last bit was

3024
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:38,080
but it would be desirable

3025
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:39,840
as well.

3026
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:41,679
So I I I would I would kind of phase it

3027
01:58:41,679 --> 01:58:44,800
in. So first get the get the pictures of

3028
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:47,920
what we're facing and larger companies

3029
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:49,760
really like to have the instrumentation

3030
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:53,440
on the judge thermal gradients when

3031
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:56,159
they're habitat expiration and so forth

3032
01:58:56,159 --> 01:58:57,920
but there's just a lot of elements to

3033
01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:02,310
that that need to be

3034
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:03,679
» and that that study would probably fall

3035
01:59:03,679 --> 01:59:05,920
under the contractual professional be

3036
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:07,920
contracting that out. So if once again

3037
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:11,360
if that did become a priority project we

3038
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:12,719
could pull it out of our contingency.

3039
01:59:12,719 --> 01:59:15,440
There's 1.9 million in the contingency

3040
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:18,000
that we could

3041
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:19,840
>> Yeah,

3042
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:21,760
>> I think I think we're trying to gather

3043
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:23,199
thermmo data and stuff though. It would

3044
01:59:23,199 --> 01:59:25,199
be it would be beneficial to bring in

3045
01:59:25,199 --> 01:59:27,280
Scapus Bay wershed and Columbia soil and

3046
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:29,199
water because Colombian soil water

3047
01:59:29,199 --> 01:59:30,719
already has access to some of that

3048
01:59:30,719 --> 01:59:32,400
equipment and is doing some of that work

3049
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:34,639
because I've sat in presentations on

3050
01:59:34,639 --> 01:59:36,480
ecoli studies and things where they do

3051
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:38,960
have water temperature data. So I it's

3052
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:40,320
collective. I just think we need to work

3053
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:42,400
with the other agencies to to partner

3054
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:44,159
and pull something together, maybe a

3055
01:59:44,159 --> 01:59:47,199
bigger picture.

3056
01:59:47,199 --> 01:59:48,719
>> Yeah.

3057
01:59:48,719 --> 01:59:50,400
>> Excuse me, Ben. Would that be something

3058
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:52,639
that we can look into getting partially

3059
01:59:52,639 --> 01:59:55,360
like a grant for?

3060
01:59:55,360 --> 01:59:56,480
>> Yeah, I mean, if there are grants out

3061
01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:58,560
there for we'd have to look into it. I

3062
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:01,280
100% sure, but there probably is a grant

3063
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:06,239
out there for something similar to that.

3064
02:00:06,239 --> 02:00:08,400
Okay, continuing on to storm water

3065
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:11,360
drainage SD SDC.

3066
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:14,639
>> Yep. So, uh SDC's as you all know are

3067
02:00:14,639 --> 02:00:17,119
the contribution by homes that are being

3068
02:00:17,119 --> 02:00:18,960
built towards future development for

3069
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:20,880
growth. So, any of these funds can only

3070
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:23,920
be used for capacity adding projects. Um

3071
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:25,199
working capital carryover for the

3072
02:00:25,199 --> 02:00:28,960
stormwater SDC fund is 488,29

3073
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:31,440
which is up 67,759

3074
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:33,360
from the previous year. Interest is

3075
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:36,560
projected at 15,000. SDC's are projected

3076
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:39,599
to come in at 44,167

3077
02:00:39,599 --> 02:00:41,840
which is down 42,000 from the previous

3078
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:44,719
year. Um current year resources then are

3079
02:00:44,719 --> 02:00:47,040
at 59,167

3080
02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:51,199
giving a total resources of 547376.

3081
02:00:51,199 --> 02:00:54,159
Capital outlay is budgeted at 500 uh

3082
02:00:54,159 --> 02:00:56,560
which is 300 more than last year. We

3083
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:57,920
don't have anything specifically

3084
02:00:57,920 --> 02:01:00,000
identified for that yet until we get the

3085
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:01,920
design work done on these projects and

3086
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:03,199
then we'll be able to use some of those

3087
02:01:03,199 --> 02:01:04,880
funds. That's why it's there just

3088
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:06,639
earmarked for projects, but we don't

3089
02:01:06,639 --> 02:01:09,920
have it set to a contract yet. Um

3090
02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:14,400
transfers are at two or 220 which is a

3091
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:16,080
admin fee transferred over from the

3092
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:17,599
money that comes in. There's a portion

3093
02:01:17,599 --> 02:01:19,599
kicked back to the general fund to help

3094
02:01:19,599 --> 02:01:23,199
cover admin costs. Um contingency is

3095
02:01:23,199 --> 02:01:30,229
45,168 balancing the budget at 547376

3096
02:01:30,239 --> 02:01:34,870
questions.

3097
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:35,840
All right, moving on.

3098
02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:39,440
>> Continue on street SDC. Same concept

3099
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:42,000
contributions from development working

3100
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:45,440
capital carryover of 1,233,125

3101
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:48,639
which is up 295594.

3102
02:01:48,639 --> 02:01:50,400
Development charges projected for the

3103
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:52,880
year at 277608.

3104
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:55,840
Interest is projected at 30,000 giving a

3105
02:01:55,840 --> 02:02:00,310
total resources of 1,540,733.

3106
02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:03,520
Um capital outlay for the year is 1.2

3107
02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:06,080
million. This fund is eligible to be

3108
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:08,080
spent towards the Bind Street project

3109
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:11,119
50% of it. So um we're allocating money

3110
02:02:11,119 --> 02:02:13,440
towards that project for that. uh

3111
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:17,119
transfers to the general fund of 13,880

3112
02:02:17,119 --> 02:02:20,239
and a contingency of 326853

3113
02:02:20,239 --> 02:02:23,920
balance the budget at 1.54733.

3114
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:26,000
So once again big expenses are going to

3115
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:27,440
the Vine Street project when that goes

3116
02:02:27,440 --> 02:02:29,599
to construction which won't be until

3117
02:02:29,599 --> 02:02:32,320
spring summer of next year. We'll be in

3118
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:34,719
the design stage effective now till

3119
02:02:34,719 --> 02:02:37,119
probably January. So

3120
02:02:37,119 --> 02:02:39,119
>> this budget pays for the completion of

3121
02:02:39,119 --> 02:02:40,239
that project.

3122
02:02:40,239 --> 02:02:42,239
>> Pays for a portion of it. Pays for up to

3123
02:02:42,239 --> 02:02:43,520
50%.

3124
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:45,679
>> Um but it will all I mean the whole

3125
02:02:45,679 --> 02:02:47,840
budget though it will be done by the end

3126
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:49,199
of this budget.

3127
02:02:49,199 --> 02:02:52,080
>> No, more than likely we're going to be

3128
02:02:52,080 --> 02:02:54,159
doing the work through next summer

3129
02:02:54,159 --> 02:02:56,400
because of the impact of the schools. So

3130
02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:58,800
we'll be doing utility work and things

3131
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:00,560
while the kids are in school, but the

3132
02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:02,560
major sidewalks, paving work, we're

3133
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:04,159
going to try to align with next summer.

3134
02:03:04,159 --> 02:03:05,760
So I would imagine there's going to be a

3135
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:07,440
small amount that's going to trickle

3136
02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:09,679
into the next fiscal year just to wrap

3137
02:03:09,679 --> 02:03:11,679
up the project into the fall. So it'll

3138
02:03:11,679 --> 02:03:14,400
be a split season. Most of the expenses

3139
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:15,920
will be in this fiscal year, but

3140
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:17,440
there'll be some trickle over.

3141
02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:19,119
>> And do when do these housing

3142
02:03:19,119 --> 02:03:21,360
developments pay the street SDC? Like

3143
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:23,119
have they already all three of them?

3144
02:03:23,119 --> 02:03:24,960
>> At the time they pull their permits to

3145
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:25,440
build.

3146
02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:26,320
>> Yeah.

3147
02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:29,119
>> So this this is money we have. It's not,

3148
02:03:29,119 --> 02:03:32,080
you know, expected. I mean the 277,000

3149
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:37,119
is expected for out of new houses. So

3150
02:03:37,119 --> 02:03:39,760
>> you said this uh this was eligible to be

3151
02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:44,400
used for that that sidewalk project is

3152
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:46,560
>> 50% of it is.

3153
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:47,280
>> Yeah.

3154
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:48,960
>> Um could it could it be used for any

3155
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:50,400
sidewalk project or is there something

3156
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:52,880
>> capacity adding? Yes, it can. and we

3157
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:55,040
have so when we did the sidewalk

3158
02:03:55,040 --> 02:03:56,480
improvements on Old Portland Road a

3159
02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:58,239
handful of years ago and things same

3160
02:03:58,239 --> 02:04:01,440
thing we applied 50% of the SDC's

3161
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:02,960
the the SDC's are a little bit

3162
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:04,320
challenging to use or a curse and a

3163
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:05,920
blessing because if you don't have the

3164
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:07,599
capacity adding then you can't apply

3165
02:04:07,599 --> 02:04:09,119
them well we're not really building a

3166
02:04:09,119 --> 02:04:10,560
lot of new streets because when the new

3167
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:12,239
streets come in they're built by a

3168
02:04:12,239 --> 02:04:14,000
developer and we're not contributing to

3169
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:15,599
those costs anyway so that's why it's

3170
02:04:15,599 --> 02:04:17,040
good that these sidewalk projects are

3171
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:18,639
eligible because that's how we can best

3172
02:04:18,639 --> 02:04:21,920
align them to use them

3173
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:28,870
questions on that.

3174
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:32,639
» Let's continue on. Um, park SDC.

3175
02:04:32,639 --> 02:04:34,639
>> Park SDC's. All right.

3176
02:04:34,639 --> 02:04:36,880
>> Page 94.

3177
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:39,440
>> All right. Parks SDC's. Total resources

3178
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:44,629
for parks SDC's $416,875.

3179
02:04:44,639 --> 02:04:46,080
That includes the working capital

3180
02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:50,709
carryover of $277,749

3181
02:04:50,719 --> 02:04:54,560
with $7,000 of interest and for the SDC

3182
02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:56,719
charges for the two subdivisions coming

3183
02:04:56,719 --> 02:05:01,830
in is $132,126.

3184
02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:04,719
Expenditures for this fund is uh through

3185
02:05:04,719 --> 02:05:07,520
capital out capital outlay is 400,000

3186
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:12,320
which is marked for the uh Smith Road uh

3187
02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:14,880
veterans extension

3188
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:17,679
project

3189
02:05:17,679 --> 02:05:20,800
with 6 $6,66

3190
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:30,550
in interest per contingency of $10,269.

3191
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:32,159
Um,

3192
02:05:32,159 --> 02:05:35,679
so do you anticipate then spending

3193
02:05:35,679 --> 02:05:37,199
$400,000

3194
02:05:37,199 --> 02:05:41,040
on the park in this budget?

3195
02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:45,840
Will we have stuff ground dug? And

3196
02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:46,400
or

3197
02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:47,679
>> once again, just like the sidewalk

3198
02:05:47,679 --> 02:05:48,800
project, I think it's going to be a

3199
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:51,199
split year. We're going to allocate for

3200
02:05:51,199 --> 02:05:53,679
it. Um, but we're going to be through

3201
02:05:53,679 --> 02:05:55,840
the duration of next summer. By the time

3202
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:57,440
we get the design done, we're going to

3203
02:05:57,440 --> 02:06:00,880
be bidding late winter, spring, going to

3204
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:03,440
construction, doing the dirt work during

3205
02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:06,159
the dry months, probably paving and

3206
02:06:06,159 --> 02:06:07,920
things into the fall. So, it's it's

3207
02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:10,080
going to be a carryover

3208
02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:11,040
right in the middle of it.

3209
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:13,199
>> Next June, July, there could be some

3210
02:06:13,199 --> 02:06:14,560
>> there'll be construction activities

3211
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:16,560
hopefully going on at that point, but it

3212
02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:18,320
won't be done by any means by the end of

3213
02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:28,790
this fiscal year.

3214
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:32,079
Page 26.

3215
02:06:32,079 --> 02:06:33,360
Fool fun.

3216
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:36,400
>> The the pool fun. We always joke about

3217
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:39,599
page 96. So, this is when you only have

3218
02:06:39,599 --> 02:06:41,679
to see this now for a couple more years

3219
02:06:41,679 --> 02:06:44,159
because I got the the last little bit

3220
02:06:44,159 --> 02:06:49,040
of, you know, um ending dollars uh out

3221
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:53,599
this last year or this year. So the the

3222
02:06:53,599 --> 02:06:55,760
remaining money, you know, of course we

3223
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:58,239
talked a little bit about the 48,000 for

3224
02:06:58,239 --> 02:07:01,040
it that we cannot spend, but the n the

3225
02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:04,560
other funds that were in there, 9844,

3226
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:09,280
uh we um could we transferred it over to

3227
02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:12,000
the general fund to parks basically. So

3228
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:14,000
it's going to the park projects. So

3229
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:17,040
that's that's pretty much done. So

3230
02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:19,440
nothing is going to acrue. This is going

3231
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:20,960
to be kind of like that peg fee fund

3232
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:22,880
that's gonna kind of just eventually

3233
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:29,280
roll off. So, did it off our books? So, you still have to look at it for a

3234
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:31,920
couple more years.

3235
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:34,000
Potentially a new hotel coming in. You

3236
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:37,679
use that to rent it for the city couple

3237
02:07:37,679 --> 02:07:40,159
times summer pool.

3238
02:07:40,159 --> 02:07:41,040
>> Yeah.

3239
02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:44,480
>> Rent their pool.

3240
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:46,000
>> Okay. And I also do unemployment

3241
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:48,880
insurance fund. This is fund 87. We are

3242
02:07:48,880 --> 02:07:50,639
self-insured for unemployment. We don't

3243
02:07:50,639 --> 02:07:53,280
pay the state anything for it. So if

3244
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:56,960
there is if we do lay somebody off or um

3245
02:07:56,960 --> 02:07:58,960
shortly after I came, there was somebody

3246
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:00,480
that we didn't lay them off but they

3247
02:08:00,480 --> 02:08:02,320
quit but then they got laid off their

3248
02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:04,560
job their next job. So we ended up

3249
02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:07,840
coming back and hitting us for it. So So

3250
02:08:07,840 --> 02:08:09,920
you know we do have this it's got it's

3251
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:11,920
very healthy. It's got good reserves.

3252
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:16,000
Um, and so, you know, we have $100,000,

3253
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:18,000
you know, reserved for this. Uh, we

3254
02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:20,000
haven't paid anything for a couple of

3255
02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:22,560
years out on the unemployment fund, but

3256
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:24,400
we pay basically all the unemployment

3257
02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:27,119
costs if we lay somebody off, you know,

3258
02:08:27,119 --> 02:08:30,480
so so we don't pay the state their uh uh

3259
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:32,800
amount. So, you know, the fund has we

3260
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:35,599
always budget $50,000, you know, we

3261
02:08:35,599 --> 02:08:38,320
haven't spent that much, you know, since

3262
02:08:38,320 --> 02:08:40,400
I've been here. We just spent a few

3263
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:42,880
thousand dollars since I've been here.

3264
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:45,360
Uh, and you know, a dozen interest every

3265
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:48,159
year and we just are rolling it over.

3266
02:08:48,159 --> 02:08:50,960
And because the fund is in such such is

3267
02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:53,679
so healthy, we aren't having to take

3268
02:08:53,679 --> 02:08:56,079
money from payroll out of all the other

3269
02:08:56,079 --> 02:08:58,880
funds for the payroll cost to add to

3270
02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:02,159
this fund. So basically this this fund

3271
02:09:02,159 --> 02:09:05,520
being healthy is keeping it's keeping

3272
02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:08,400
our costs down, you know, for all of the

3273
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:11,119
other payroll, you know, funds,

3274
02:09:11,119 --> 02:09:12,960
everybody else's payroll because we're

3275
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:14,719
not putting we haven't put any money in

3276
02:09:14,719 --> 02:09:18,079
here from the other departments since

3277
02:09:18,079 --> 02:09:20,800
I've been here. So it's it's healthy and

3278
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:22,800
just rolling along. The interest is

3279
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:25,520
keeping it going. So So that's the

3280
02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:27,199
unemployment interest. How does that

3281
02:09:27,199 --> 02:09:30,159
like show that you hire good people

3282
02:09:30,159 --> 02:09:32,320
>> or we don't hire too many people we have

3283
02:09:32,320 --> 02:09:33,840
to lay off or

3284
02:09:33,840 --> 02:09:35,520
>> that's that's a lot of it is we just

3285
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:36,400
have

3286
02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:38,480
>> management and so we haven't had to use

3287
02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:40,639
>> it's good management right I think I

3288
02:09:40,639 --> 02:09:42,239
think we want to think that whether it's

3289
02:09:42,239 --> 02:09:44,719
true or not we're a good place to work

3290
02:09:44,719 --> 02:09:46,320
>> a lot we are a good place

3291
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:48,320
>> a long time and a lot of locals that

3292
02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:49,760
have grown up here

3293
02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:52,719
>> yeah so

3294
02:09:52,719 --> 02:09:55,840
>> okay back to utility water fund I want

3295
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:57,760
to try to get done with the regular. We

3296
02:09:57,760 --> 02:09:59,520
have to turn off the recording for the

3297
02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:01,119
urban renewal. We'll take a few minute

3298
02:10:01,119 --> 02:10:03,119
break there. That's okay.

3299
02:10:03,119 --> 02:10:09,990
>> Uh but up to tab number 28, page 100.

3300
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:10,480
» I do.

3301
02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:11,199
>> And I

3302
02:10:11,199 --> 02:10:12,800
>> All right. Thank you everybody for being

3303
02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:16,000
here and part of the community and

3304
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:18,400
spending your time with us. Uh working

3305
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:21,040
capital carryover for water is almost

3306
02:10:21,040 --> 02:10:24,560
2.7 million interest 108,000

3307
02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:28,560
charges for services 2.7 million

3308
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:31,360
our governmental is 350,000 long-term

3309
02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:34,800
debt crew proceeds is 2.5 million for

3310
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:39,280
total resource of 5.6 6 million

3311
02:10:39,280 --> 02:10:42,719
total resources sorry 8.3 million

3312
02:10:42,719 --> 02:10:46,159
uh personnel services 1.3 million

3313
02:10:46,159 --> 02:10:49,280
materials services just over 1 million

3314
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:53,040
capital outlay 4.2 million a couple

3315
02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:56,239
loans down there

3316
02:10:56,239 --> 02:10:59,920
uh less contingency of 1.2 total

3317
02:10:59,920 --> 02:11:03,750
expenditures 8.3.

3318
02:11:03,760 --> 02:11:05,840
Uh most of the material service items

3319
02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:07,679
are pretty much the same thing. We've

3320
02:11:07,679 --> 02:11:09,440
talked about these fees and

3321
02:11:09,440 --> 02:11:12,320
subscriptions that shifting of funds has

3322
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:14,320
happened

3323
02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:17,280
capital outlay projects most everything

3324
02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:19,679
is tied to ongoing projects the

3325
02:11:19,679 --> 02:11:23,199
reservoir and the well

3326
02:11:23,199 --> 02:11:27,750
at Miller

3327
02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:30,400
» typically charges for services is is the

3328
02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:32,079
water bill

3329
02:11:32,079 --> 02:11:34,159
>> from there's there's a meter fee and

3330
02:11:34,159 --> 02:11:36,159
then there's commodity fee

3331
02:11:36,159 --> 02:11:40,320
>> and inner governmental. Um, does some of

3332
02:11:40,320 --> 02:11:44,079
this come from No, this urban renewal to

3333
02:11:44,079 --> 02:11:49,040
pay for the reservoir.

3334
02:11:49,040 --> 02:11:52,079
Urban urban renewal is kicking in 21%

3335
02:11:52,079 --> 02:11:53,760
towards the reservoir, but you won't see

3336
02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:58,719
that money anywhere in this budget. It's tied directly to the paying the

3337
02:11:58,719 --> 02:12:00,719
contractor out of that fund. So, it's

3338
02:12:00,719 --> 02:12:03,280
not carrying through here. Um, anything

3339
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:05,280
intergovernmental is pretty much all the

3340
02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:07,360
ARPA. And then there's long-term debt

3341
02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:09,360
proceeds which are self-explanatory.

3342
02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:11,199
That's the loans that we've taken out

3343
02:12:11,199 --> 02:12:13,040
through the special public works fund to

3344
02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:16,159
fund these. So we we have one loan on

3345
02:12:16,159 --> 02:12:17,920
the reservoir and we just took out a

3346
02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:20,880
loan on the basalt well which we're

3347
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:24,480
getting ready to sign contracts on soon.

3348
02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:26,480
>> And speaking of ARPA, all the deadlines,

3349
02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:28,480
all the reporting, we've done good on

3350
02:12:28,480 --> 02:12:30,159
all of them.

3351
02:12:30,159 --> 02:12:31,840
The only one that's still lingering,

3352
02:12:31,840 --> 02:12:33,840
which has almost been exhausted, is for

3353
02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:35,360
the bass well.

3354
02:12:35,360 --> 02:12:37,280
>> I think we're down to about 400,000 left

3355
02:12:37,280 --> 02:12:39,599
to spend on that. I anticipate with the

3356
02:12:39,599 --> 02:12:41,280
new well driller that we'll be cutting

3357
02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:43,599
that one here real soon and closing that

3358
02:12:43,599 --> 02:12:49,669
out.

3359
02:12:49,679 --> 02:12:51,119
The one thing that I want to mention on

3360
02:12:51,119 --> 02:12:52,800
the water fund though is this is the

3361
02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:57,280
fund that we're watching the closest. um

3362
02:12:57,280 --> 02:12:59,119
the revenues are actually down and

3363
02:12:59,119 --> 02:13:04,480
they've been trending down or flat with people conserving water and things

3364
02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:06,800
and the rates not going up as drastic.

3365
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:09,679
So it's indexed right now at a a 2.5 or

3366
02:13:09,679 --> 02:13:11,920
the construction cost and the

3367
02:13:11,920 --> 02:13:13,520
construction cost index have been down

3368
02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:15,360
so we're only coming up at two and a

3369
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:17,920
half. Well the cost of living I mean

3370
02:13:17,920 --> 02:13:19,360
just our personnel costs have been going

3371
02:13:19,360 --> 02:13:21,679
up at over 3%. Health insurance has been

3372
02:13:21,679 --> 02:13:24,639
going up 7 to 10%. So, we're trending in

3373
02:13:24,639 --> 02:13:27,360
a downward negative pattern right now

3374
02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:29,440
and so we will probably be coming to

3375
02:13:29,440 --> 02:13:31,360
council within the next year to talk

3376
02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:33,440
about this and come up with a strategy

3377
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:36,400
of how we want to address it. So, stay

3378
02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:37,280
tuned on that one.

3379
02:13:37,280 --> 02:13:38,880
>> And your budget is down a little on

3380
02:13:38,880 --> 02:13:40,880
charges even with the new houses coming

3381
02:13:40,880 --> 02:13:43,199
online. Kind of forecast for that.

3382
02:13:43,199 --> 02:13:47,750
>> Yeah, we forecast for that. Yep.

3383
02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:48,960
» But we I mean we've asked people to

3384
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:50,719
conserve all along and they are.

3385
02:13:50,719 --> 02:13:52,239
>> It just it's going to impact your bottom

3386
02:13:52,239 --> 02:13:53,520
dollar too. So

3387
02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:55,520
>> when were the rates changed to remind

3388
02:13:55,520 --> 02:13:56,560
me?

3389
02:13:56,560 --> 02:13:57,280
>> When do they

3390
02:13:57,280 --> 02:13:59,199
>> when when did they change? We have

3391
02:13:59,199 --> 02:14:00,560
>> Well, they change every year,

3392
02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:01,040
>> right?

3393
02:14:01,040 --> 02:14:03,040
>> So we follow the index every year,

3394
02:14:03,040 --> 02:14:05,280
>> which is how much

3395
02:14:05,280 --> 02:14:07,280
>> from one from one year to the next?

3396
02:14:07,280 --> 02:14:08,239
>> Two and a half%.

3397
02:14:08,239 --> 02:14:09,760
Okay.

3398
02:14:09,760 --> 02:14:11,199
>> There was a year because of the

3399
02:14:11,199 --> 02:14:12,880
construction cost index where it went up

3400
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:15,440
7.2. That was our big spike, but then

3401
02:14:15,440 --> 02:14:17,040
the very next year it reversed. It went

3402
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:21,840
to 2.7. So it hovers at that three range

3403
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:24,239
give or take but the last few years it's

3404
02:14:24,239 --> 02:14:27,679
been down to half of I think I think

3405
02:14:27,679 --> 02:14:30,639
last year the index was 1.6 six if

3406
02:14:30,639 --> 02:14:32,560
memory serves me correct. So we

3407
02:14:32,560 --> 02:14:34,560
defaulted to the 2.5 which the current

3408
02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:38,800
resolution has as the minimum

3409
02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:40,560
but once again two and a half isn't

3410
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:42,960
covering when your costs are three plus

3411
02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:45,040
and and the chemicals and things that

3412
02:14:45,040 --> 02:14:50,719
we're paying to operate the plant are increasing like 10% every year. So

3413
02:14:50,719 --> 02:14:50,880
if

3414
02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:52,400
>> everything goes right, what's your best

3415
02:14:52,400 --> 02:14:54,560
guess on when we would take water out of

3416
02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:56,560
the salt well? When?

3417
02:14:56,560 --> 02:15:02,550
>> Fall of this year. Yeah.

3418
02:15:02,560 --> 02:15:04,159
» Yeah. I anticipate with the new driller

3419
02:15:04,159 --> 02:15:06,079
that's on site that they'll bottom out

3420
02:15:06,079 --> 02:15:08,000
within the next month or two and start

3421
02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:10,000
to test it and make sure and then we'll

3422
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:12,239
have to go to bid for a contractor to

3423
02:15:12,239 --> 02:15:14,480
install the pumps and tie it into the

3424
02:15:14,480 --> 02:15:17,760
plant. So, probably fall, winter, or

3425
02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:19,760
latest.

3426
02:15:19,760 --> 02:15:22,239
Great.

3427
02:15:22,239 --> 02:15:24,320
Okay.

3428
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:27,679
Water SEC fund

3429
02:15:27,679 --> 02:15:31,440
>> water SEC is carryover 210,000

3430
02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:34,239
interest 6,000 system development

3431
02:15:34,239 --> 02:15:37,599
charges 552,000

3432
02:15:37,599 --> 02:15:41,760
our transfer and utility fund 100,000

3433
02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:47,510
total resources 868,000

3434
02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:51,040
uh capital improvements 141,000 that's

3435
02:15:51,040 --> 02:15:55,360
the basalt well and loans Contingency

3436
02:15:55,360 --> 02:16:00,069
423,000

3437
02:16:00,079 --> 02:16:01,040
questions on SC.

3438
02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:02,560
>> Can you just remind us like the loans

3439
02:16:02,560 --> 02:16:04,560
that we have? What what are we have

3440
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:08,310
loans on?

3441
02:16:08,320 --> 02:16:10,400
» We're still paying on the line that goes

3442
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:12,880
up the canyon.

3443
02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:16,159
Um and the capital outlay is actually

3444
02:16:16,159 --> 02:16:17,520
huh Miller.

3445
02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:18,880
>> There might be still some of that too.

3446
02:16:18,880 --> 02:16:21,679
Yeah. Um, in the capital outlay, the

3447
02:16:21,679 --> 02:16:24,480
$149.99 though is actually development

3448
02:16:24,480 --> 02:16:26,960
fees. So when the Charles T. Parker

3449
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:29,599
properties annexed in, the city received

3450
02:16:29,599 --> 02:16:31,920
money through land use decisions that

3451
02:16:31,920 --> 02:16:33,439
contributed towards the reservoir and

3452
02:16:33,439 --> 02:16:36,000
towards the well, that 140 is their

3453
02:16:36,000 --> 02:16:38,000
contribution towards the well. They've

3454
02:16:38,000 --> 02:16:40,240
already paid out the money to the

3455
02:16:40,240 --> 02:16:44,719
reservoir as we're completing that. So,

3456
02:16:44,719 --> 02:16:47,040
um, pretty much the SDC fund is just

3457
02:16:47,040 --> 02:16:49,439
paying back debt through the revenues

3458
02:16:49,439 --> 02:16:51,200
it's receiving other than that one

3459
02:16:51,200 --> 02:17:06,309
49.92.

3460
02:17:06,319 --> 02:17:09,840
Are the SDC charges are those just like

3461
02:17:09,840 --> 02:17:12,559
per unit that's coming online or that's

3462
02:17:12,559 --> 02:17:14,639
all it is? Doesn't matter how big the

3463
02:17:14,639 --> 02:17:15,760
thing is or

3464
02:17:15,760 --> 02:17:19,040
>> it's it's per meter size that they're

3465
02:17:19,040 --> 02:17:21,439
>> buying into. The bigger the meter, the

3466
02:17:21,439 --> 02:17:22,719
higher the SDC.

3467
02:17:22,719 --> 02:17:25,200
>> So like an apartment up at a meter that

3468
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:26,319
one meter

3469
02:17:26,319 --> 02:17:30,319
>> can be. Yeah. depending on the complex

3470
02:17:30,319 --> 02:17:31,760
of how many different buildings. If it's

3471
02:17:31,760 --> 02:17:33,040
a complex with more, then usually

3472
02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:35,040
there's one meter per building. But it's

3473
02:17:35,040 --> 02:17:37,200
typically what we see.

3474
02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:40,080
>> Standard 3/4 one inch of water is about

3475
02:17:40,080 --> 02:17:46,469
10,000 wast.

3476
02:17:46,479 --> 02:17:49,200
It's just per unit like for the parks

3477
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:52,240
SEC about $1,500 or

3478
02:17:52,240 --> 02:17:54,719
>> Yeah, I believe it's broken out to by

3479
02:17:54,719 --> 02:17:57,519
single family versus like multifamily

3480
02:17:57,519 --> 02:18:04,469
unit. It's a little less I

3481
02:18:04,479 --> 02:18:07,359
» Okay. Utility wastewater fund path 30

3482
02:18:07,359 --> 02:18:09,760
page 107.

3483
02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:13,040
>> Wastewater fund has a carryover of 4.2 2

3484
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:17,760
million 144,000 in interest

3485
02:18:17,760 --> 02:18:22,080
3.1 million in charges for services

3486
02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:25,040
intergovernmental revenue of 100,000

3487
02:18:25,040 --> 02:18:28,639
long-term debt proceeds of 3 million

3488
02:18:28,639 --> 02:18:33,359
total resources of 10.6 million

3489
02:18:33,359 --> 02:18:36,080
personnel is 1.3 material service

3490
02:18:36,080 --> 02:18:37,599
972,000

3491
02:18:37,599 --> 02:18:43,280
capital outlay 3.4 million there's

3492
02:18:43,280 --> 02:18:46,160
the old loan in there from 2010 and the

3493
02:18:46,160 --> 02:18:49,760
new new payment coming online. Total

3494
02:18:49,760 --> 02:18:53,359
expenditures 10.6 million.

3495
02:18:53,359 --> 02:18:56,160
And the same story here within the

3496
02:18:56,160 --> 02:18:57,840
service

3497
02:18:57,840 --> 02:19:00,719
contract professionals allocation and

3498
02:19:00,719 --> 02:19:03,280
news fees subscriptions are electrical.

3499
02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:05,599
It's going to be a shift electrical and

3500
02:19:05,599 --> 02:19:08,240
chemicals uh with the new additions

3501
02:19:08,240 --> 02:19:14,230
phase one project.

3502
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:17,439
Yeah. Any questions on that one?

3503
02:19:17,439 --> 02:19:20,399
>> So phase one, I mean it it did a lot and

3504
02:19:20,399 --> 02:19:23,679
you're able to operate and then phase

3505
02:19:23,679 --> 02:19:25,280
two will be

3506
02:19:25,280 --> 02:19:27,599
>> phase two is a new clarifier, a new

3507
02:19:27,599 --> 02:19:30,399
digest, aerobic digesttor and new

3508
02:19:30,399 --> 02:19:33,519
offices and effluent line to the new one

3509
02:19:33,519 --> 02:19:35,679
channel. We're using all the that now

3510
02:19:35,679 --> 02:19:37,920
but old and then we'll up phase two

3511
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:40,160
would be the upgrade and

3512
02:19:40,160 --> 02:19:44,479
>> we are the next couple months we'll be

3513
02:19:44,479 --> 02:19:46,639
online. This week is a big week. There's

3514
02:19:46,639 --> 02:19:48,880
lots of equipment that's being tested

3515
02:19:48,880 --> 02:19:51,120
and coming online. Electrical transfers

3516
02:19:51,120 --> 02:19:52,960
and

3517
02:19:52,960 --> 02:19:55,920
computer upgrades.

3518
02:19:55,920 --> 02:19:57,359
Couple things I'd like to point out on

3519
02:19:57,359 --> 02:19:59,840
this fund is the beginning cash. Yes,

3520
02:19:59,840 --> 02:20:02,000
it's extremely large, but over the past

3521
02:20:02,000 --> 02:20:03,600
five years, we've been raising the rate

3522
02:20:03,600 --> 02:20:06,160
7% per year. This will be the last year

3523
02:20:06,160 --> 02:20:08,399
of that. That's anticipation of making

3524
02:20:08,399 --> 02:20:11,040
payments on the $20 million loan that's

3525
02:20:11,040 --> 02:20:14,319
going to begin next year. So, that big

3526
02:20:14,319 --> 02:20:16,240
balance is going to start to dwindle

3527
02:20:16,240 --> 02:20:19,359
relatively quickly moving forward. So,

3528
02:20:19,359 --> 02:20:21,680
um this fund is is right now healthy,

3529
02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:23,680
but it won't be as healthy as we move

3530
02:20:23,680 --> 02:20:25,040
forward, as we start to pay back the

3531
02:20:25,040 --> 02:20:26,479
debt because we've been planning to pay

3532
02:20:26,479 --> 02:20:28,479
that debt. And that's that's why you'll

3533
02:20:28,479 --> 02:20:30,960
see some money in there. So,

3534
02:20:30,960 --> 02:20:32,880
um, and we will be coming to you next

3535
02:20:32,880 --> 02:20:35,520
Monday to talk about a new wastewater

3536
02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:38,720
rate structure. If you remember back in

3537
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:41,359
November, we came to you council and

3538
02:20:41,359 --> 02:20:43,280
talked about this new commercial rates

3539
02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:45,359
and things. We heard what you said about

3540
02:20:45,359 --> 02:20:47,840
the multif family. And so, now we've got

3541
02:20:47,840 --> 02:20:49,520
a plan to come forward and present to

3542
02:20:49,520 --> 02:20:53,280
you um, next week. So, stay tuned on

3543
02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:58,150
that.

3544
02:20:58,160 --> 02:21:00,000
We've been I've been signing some big

3545
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:03,680
checks over the last year for the WWTP

3546
02:21:03,680 --> 02:21:07,200
like those we pay along the as we go on

3547
02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:09,520
some of that. Is that coming from ARPA

3548
02:21:09,520 --> 02:21:13,200
dollar or that's not part of the loan?

3549
02:21:13,200 --> 02:21:15,840
It's it's pretty much all loan. So that

3550
02:21:15,840 --> 02:21:17,920
project was only eligible for ARPA in

3551
02:21:17,920 --> 02:21:20,479
the amount of 2.2 million of the nearly

3552
02:21:20,479 --> 02:21:22,479
$20 million that we spent well I take

3553
02:21:22,479 --> 02:21:25,120
that back 16.8 8 million towards the

3554
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:27,040
plant itself and then we had the close

3555
02:21:27,040 --> 02:21:29,439
to $2 million that did have ARPA money

3556
02:21:29,439 --> 02:21:31,760
half of it for the bioer but that

3557
02:21:31,760 --> 02:21:33,680
project's been complete for over a year

3558
02:21:33,680 --> 02:21:34,960
this past year has just been on the

3559
02:21:34,960 --> 02:21:39,040
wastewater plant which has been all been

3560
02:21:39,040 --> 02:21:41,520
other than the 2.2 been going to the the

3561
02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:44,080
lawn.

3562
02:21:44,080 --> 02:21:46,160
>> Okay. And then urban renewal, when we

3563
02:21:46,160 --> 02:21:48,640
get to that, Carol will touch on that it

3564
02:21:48,640 --> 02:21:51,040
has a percentage allocated towards it

3565
02:21:51,040 --> 02:21:53,040
and it's urban renewal will make the

3566
02:21:53,040 --> 02:21:55,200
first few payments of that loan until

3567
02:21:55,200 --> 02:21:57,120
its eligibility is gone or the funds

3568
02:21:57,120 --> 02:21:58,960
were available depending on how the

3569
02:21:58,960 --> 02:22:01,439
taxes come in and then after that then

3570
02:22:01,439 --> 02:22:03,359
rateayers will be paying those loans

3571
02:22:03,359 --> 02:22:07,120
moving forward. Hope that makes sense.

3572
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:09,520
>> I do have a question. Um what what does

3573
02:22:09,520 --> 02:22:11,359
it mean when it something is like more

3574
02:22:11,359 --> 02:22:15,200
than 100% paid like 140? Is that I've

3575
02:22:15,200 --> 02:22:19,830
seen that a couple of times

3576
02:22:19,840 --> 02:22:20,560
» where you

3577
02:22:20,560 --> 02:22:24,080
>> when the let's see when you guys

3578
02:22:24,080 --> 02:22:26,240
percentage of allocated time

3579
02:22:26,240 --> 02:22:27,439
>> is it two people

3580
02:22:27,439 --> 02:22:30,080
>> yes two people yes

3581
02:22:30,080 --> 02:22:32,880
>> okay 70 okay

3582
02:22:32,880 --> 02:22:35,920
you said worker

3583
02:22:35,920 --> 02:22:38,640
140 so yeah two people it's 70%

3584
02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:39,520
>> okay

3585
02:22:39,520 --> 02:22:41,680
>> yeah4

3586
02:22:41,680 --> 02:22:43,520
point4 whatever of one person you know

3587
02:22:43,520 --> 02:22:45,520
half person

3588
02:22:45,520 --> 02:22:47,200
>> and some of these are like even it's the

3589
02:22:47,200 --> 02:22:49,920
same utility and different fund it's

3590
02:22:49,920 --> 02:22:52,960
still the same amount on both funds. See

3591
02:22:52,960 --> 02:22:54,640
how that you guys break it down the

3592
02:22:54,640 --> 02:22:56,479
percentages.

3593
02:22:56,479 --> 02:22:57,120
>> Okay.

3594
02:22:57,120 --> 02:23:00,479
>> And there too on page 107 you have 2526

3595
02:23:00,479 --> 02:23:04,230
twice.

3596
02:23:04,240 --> 02:23:06,800
» Okay, you're right. Okay. But again it's

3597
02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:10,319
7.5 FP no

3598
02:23:10,319 --> 02:23:13,040
>> equals out but all the percentages might

3599
02:23:13,040 --> 02:23:15,200
be different

3600
02:23:15,200 --> 02:23:17,680
>> right

3601
02:23:17,680 --> 02:23:23,990
um

3602
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:28,469
we do 30 waste waterc

3603
02:23:28,479 --> 02:23:30,479
E

3604
02:23:30,479 --> 02:23:32,000
31

3605
02:23:32,000 --> 02:23:35,910
F

3606
02:23:35,920 --> 02:23:39,359
» we have about 230,000 in carryover

3607
02:23:39,359 --> 02:23:43,840
20,000 in interest and uh on this one

3608
02:23:43,840 --> 02:23:45,760
you can see how the SDC's are actually

3609
02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:47,280
split

3610
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:50,479
60,000 reimbursement 228,000 extra

3611
02:23:50,479 --> 02:23:54,720
capacity and 15% for admin fees

3612
02:23:54,720 --> 02:23:57,840
the total there of 324,000 total

3613
02:23:57,840 --> 02:24:00,960
resources is 554,000

3614
02:24:00,960 --> 02:24:03,920
capital outlays 500,000 transfers of

3615
02:24:03,920 --> 02:24:06,560
15,230

3616
02:24:06,560 --> 02:24:15,270
leaves a contingency of 39,336.

3617
02:24:15,280 --> 02:24:18,960
Those are all uh headed towards phase

3618
02:24:18,960 --> 02:24:25,990
one project.

3619
02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:28,800
» Okay.

3620
02:24:28,800 --> 02:24:30,240
question.

3621
02:24:30,240 --> 02:24:34,160
>> So, tab 32, page 113,

3622
02:24:34,160 --> 02:24:36,000
excuse me, are the the loans that we

3623
02:24:36,000 --> 02:24:37,280
have out.

3624
02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:39,439
>> Yeah, I decided to put those back in

3625
02:24:39,439 --> 02:24:41,840
this year so you could see what loans

3626
02:24:41,840 --> 02:24:43,200
were in there. We used to have a debt

3627
02:24:43,200 --> 02:24:45,680
service fund, but I thought it would be

3628
02:24:45,680 --> 02:24:47,280
beneficial. And I pulled these numbers

3629
02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:49,120
out pretty quickly, you know, took them

3630
02:24:49,120 --> 02:24:50,960
off the audit, last year's audit, and

3631
02:24:50,960 --> 02:24:53,359
calculated what was in this year. So, so

3632
02:24:53,359 --> 02:24:55,200
it just kind of tells you where we are

3633
02:24:55,200 --> 02:25:01,439
and what the rates are. um on for debt.

3634
02:25:01,439 --> 02:25:02,399
>> So

3635
02:25:02,399 --> 02:25:04,240
>> that that first one then for a point of

3636
02:25:04,240 --> 02:25:06,399
clarity is the one that we amended to

3637
02:25:06,399 --> 02:25:09,040
the 20 million. So that's no longer 6.4.

3638
02:25:09,040 --> 02:25:11,680
It's now 20

3639
02:25:11,680 --> 02:25:13,840
>> at the 1.88. So that is a phenomenal

3640
02:25:13,840 --> 02:25:15,280
interest rate that we do still have on

3641
02:25:15,280 --> 02:25:16,960
that. So

3642
02:25:16,960 --> 02:25:20,080
>> that's why we raised it, right?

3643
02:25:20,080 --> 02:25:23,439
>> So yeah, that's good good point because

3644
02:25:23,439 --> 02:25:26,080
like I say off last year's audit. So, so

3645
02:25:26,080 --> 02:25:27,920
should the zero be 20 million? Is that

3646
02:25:27,920 --> 02:25:29,840
what you're saying? I I didn't catch

3647
02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:30,240
you.

3648
02:25:30,240 --> 02:25:32,399
>> The balance hasn't been finalized is why

3649
02:25:32,399 --> 02:25:33,840
I mean this is the first I've seen this

3650
02:25:33,840 --> 02:25:36,319
table too, but we we haven't closed it.

3651
02:25:36,319 --> 02:25:37,680
It's still an open account that we're

3652
02:25:37,680 --> 02:25:38,800
drawing against.

3653
02:25:38,800 --> 02:25:41,439
>> So once once we've said that's it, then

3654
02:25:41,439 --> 02:25:42,960
that will be able to give you a hard

3655
02:25:42,960 --> 02:25:43,520
number.

3656
02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:43,840
>> Okay.

3657
02:25:43,840 --> 02:25:45,439
>> But it does have a total amount

3658
02:25:45,439 --> 02:25:48,960
available of 20 million. Wait a minute.

3659
02:25:48,960 --> 02:25:51,439
>> Do these have a date of when they paid

3660
02:25:51,439 --> 02:25:53,600
off

3661
02:25:53,600 --> 02:25:56,080
or they

3662
02:25:56,080 --> 02:25:58,640
Yeah, she could she could add some

3663
02:25:58,640 --> 02:25:59,200
wrote.

3664
02:25:59,200 --> 02:26:02,319
>> Yeah, they're advertised out. So, yeah.

3665
02:26:02,319 --> 02:26:04,080
>> Yeah, we can't get obviously the first

3666
02:26:04,080 --> 02:26:06,800
one, but yeah.

3667
02:26:06,800 --> 02:26:08,479
>> Yeah, bear with me. This was my first

3668
02:26:08,479 --> 02:26:10,399
shot at this. So,

3669
02:26:10,399 --> 02:26:16,150
>> nice to see when some are expiring or

3670
02:26:16,160 --> 02:26:19,680
» and the, you know, the page 114 section

3671
02:26:19,680 --> 02:26:22,800
33 is just the listing of your transfers

3672
02:26:22,800 --> 02:26:25,760
in and out of each fund.

3673
02:26:25,760 --> 02:26:28,479
And, you know, they do go in. I always

3674
02:26:28,479 --> 02:26:31,920
put little asterisks by the SDC funds.

3675
02:26:31,920 --> 02:26:34,000
In the past, they used to transfer

3676
02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:35,520
whatever money it said they were going

3677
02:26:35,520 --> 02:26:37,280
to transfer and we don't do that

3678
02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:39,280
anymore. If we don't get the money, we

3679
02:26:39,280 --> 02:26:41,280
don't transfer it. So, nothing gets

3680
02:26:41,280 --> 02:26:44,160
transferred to the general fund unless

3681
02:26:44,160 --> 02:26:46,560
it unless we receive the money for admin

3682
02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:48,479
fees.

3683
02:26:48,479 --> 02:26:49,439
You found

3684
02:26:49,439 --> 02:26:52,720
>> budgeted transfers from SDC change.

3685
02:26:52,720 --> 02:26:56,800
>> Yeah, she is. I just spell check this

3686
02:26:56,800 --> 02:26:58,160
document, too. I'm surprised I didn't

3687
02:26:58,160 --> 02:27:02,710
catch that. work.

3688
02:27:02,720 --> 02:27:03,200
» Okay,

3689
02:27:03,200 --> 02:27:05,359
>> still works.

3690
02:27:05,359 --> 02:27:07,280
>> I'll go through the glossery one at a

3691
02:27:07,280 --> 02:27:09,120
time. Um,

3692
02:27:09,120 --> 02:27:09,760
>> that's it.

3693
02:27:09,760 --> 02:27:13,200
>> We're good there. Uh,

3694
02:27:13,200 --> 02:27:15,920
>> Council President Miller.

3695
02:27:15,920 --> 02:27:17,920
>> Yeah. Uh, some of the dialogue uh

3696
02:27:17,920 --> 02:27:19,520
related to debt services there, I

3697
02:27:19,520 --> 02:27:21,439
couldn't understand. What was the error?

3698
02:27:21,439 --> 02:27:23,439
Um, did I hear that there was an error

3699
02:27:23,439 --> 02:27:26,720
on the debt services page 113?

3700
02:27:26,720 --> 02:27:28,319
>> There was a spelling error on the

3701
02:27:28,319 --> 02:27:30,399
bottom. said budgeted transfers pro

3702
02:27:30,399 --> 02:27:32,080
instead of from.

3703
02:27:32,080 --> 02:27:33,680
>> Okay. Thank you.

3704
02:27:33,680 --> 02:27:37,270
>> And then

3705
02:27:37,280 --> 02:27:39,600
oh that was on the transfer debt

3706
02:27:39,600 --> 02:27:41,280
service. She'll add a column maybe to

3707
02:27:41,280 --> 02:27:42,720
say we would expire.

3708
02:27:42,720 --> 02:27:43,920
>> Yeah. I don't know if we'll get that in

3709
02:27:43,920 --> 02:27:45,600
this year but but we'll add it next year

3710
02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:47,280
for sure.

3711
02:27:47,280 --> 02:27:52,469
>> Okay. So we are um

3712
02:27:52,479 --> 02:27:54,000
done going through everything. if

3713
02:27:54,000 --> 02:27:56,560
anybody wants to have any more

3714
02:27:56,560 --> 02:27:58,479
questions.

3715
02:27:58,479 --> 02:28:02,000
Um, and if not, if we can look for an

3716
02:28:02,000 --> 02:28:04,160
approval, a recommendation approval of

3717
02:28:04,160 --> 02:28:06,880
this budget to provide to the council

3718
02:28:06,880 --> 02:28:08,960
with any updates or changes that we had

3719
02:28:08,960 --> 02:28:10,960
talked about.

3720
02:28:10,960 --> 02:28:13,120
Um,

3721
02:28:13,120 --> 02:28:15,200
Tyler, do you have any of them down that

3722
02:28:15,200 --> 02:28:16,800
you remember?

3723
02:28:16,800 --> 02:28:19,920
>> Yeah, I just emailed them to you and

3724
02:28:19,920 --> 02:28:30,550
Susan.

3725
02:28:30,560 --> 02:28:32,960
Okay, we'll get Susan will have these,

3726
02:28:32,960 --> 02:28:35,760
but taking notes. Page 43, we're

3727
02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:37,439
correcting position count error for

3728
02:28:37,439 --> 02:28:39,280
public works positions as flagged by the

3729
02:28:39,280 --> 02:28:42,319
public works director. Page 44, footnote

3730
02:28:42,319 --> 02:28:44,720
about restricted funds came up when

3731
02:28:44,720 --> 02:28:46,319
discussing the pool funds that councelor

3732
02:28:46,319 --> 02:28:49,760
Hen. Page 56, approval of drug D drug

3733
02:28:49,760 --> 02:28:51,840
Doug drug drug detention dog pennies

3734
02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:53,600
further conversations and approvals

3735
02:28:53,600 --> 02:28:55,280
about the program prior to any

3736
02:28:55,280 --> 02:28:57,040
expenditure.

3737
02:28:57,040 --> 02:28:59,040
I I feel fine putting it in the budget

3738
02:28:59,040 --> 02:29:01,439
but like Mr. Miller would like to talk

3739
02:29:01,439 --> 02:29:04,640
about it moving forward.

3740
02:29:04,640 --> 02:29:07,200
Uh page 64 incorrect wages for community

3741
02:29:07,200 --> 02:29:09,760
development director. Does that mean

3742
02:29:09,760 --> 02:29:12,560
also department salaries on page 65 will

3743
02:29:12,560 --> 02:29:16,880
be needed is updated as well?

3744
02:29:16,880 --> 02:29:20,720
believe so. Uh they come from a totally

3745
02:29:20,720 --> 02:29:22,160
different spot by the way.

3746
02:29:22,160 --> 02:29:23,920
>> Okay.

3747
02:29:23,920 --> 02:29:24,800
Confirm all.

3748
02:29:24,800 --> 02:29:26,399
>> It was just a table amendment.

3749
02:29:26,399 --> 02:29:27,920
>> Just a table.

3750
02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:30,240
>> Um correct me the negative numbers on

3751
02:29:30,240 --> 02:29:34,309
page 76.

3752
02:29:34,319 --> 02:29:36,960
Page 78. Potential

3753
02:29:36,960 --> 02:29:38,960
typo.

3754
02:29:38,960 --> 02:29:39,439
>> Got that?

3755
02:29:39,439 --> 02:29:46,469
>> There's a few. Uh page 107 believe uh

3756
02:29:46,479 --> 02:29:53,910
was fun.

3757
02:29:53,920 --> 02:29:55,200
I wish I could blame it on my

3758
02:29:55,200 --> 02:29:57,439
handwriting, but uh I don't think I can.

3759
02:29:57,439 --> 02:30:02,150
There.

3760
02:30:02,160 --> 02:30:03,439
» Does everything make sense in those

3761
02:30:03,439 --> 02:30:04,000
notes, Joe?

3762
02:30:04,000 --> 02:30:06,399
>> Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I had an error

3763
02:30:06,399 --> 02:30:09,520
there. Just question about I had folded

3764
02:30:09,520 --> 02:30:11,359
a page

3765
02:30:11,359 --> 02:30:14,560
uh that services spelling error on page

3766
02:30:14,560 --> 02:30:17,439
113

3767
02:30:17,439 --> 02:30:23,429
buyers uh

3768
02:30:23,439 --> 02:30:26,479
and then just somewhere is there a way

3769
02:30:26,479 --> 02:30:28,319
to qualify?

3770
02:30:28,319 --> 02:30:30,720
Um, some of the numbers look a lot

3771
02:30:30,720 --> 02:30:32,560
different this year versus next, but

3772
02:30:32,560 --> 02:30:34,640
because of intergovernmental transfer

3773
02:30:34,640 --> 02:30:36,880
transfers, you know, Sam, is there a way

3774
02:30:36,880 --> 02:30:40,000
to put that somewhere that

3775
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:42,399
transfers? Um, some of the big changes

3776
02:30:42,399 --> 02:30:44,000
aren't they're not really changes.

3777
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:46,560
They're just because the way we're

3778
02:30:46,560 --> 02:30:50,240
standard operating procedure.

3779
02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:53,760
>> I figure out how I would do that.

3780
02:30:53,760 --> 02:30:55,439
>> It will disappear pretty quick.

3781
02:30:55,439 --> 02:30:56,880
>> Yeah, just as long as we keep bringing

3782
02:30:56,880 --> 02:30:59,040
it up here.

3783
02:30:59,040 --> 02:31:01,520
become there. The other thing that was

3784
02:31:01,520 --> 02:31:03,359
not listed on here was the $400,000

3785
02:31:03,359 --> 02:31:05,439
adjustment for the police department

3786
02:31:05,439 --> 02:31:08,399
>> and the 400 399,814.

3787
02:31:08,399 --> 02:31:09,760
Did you say

3788
02:31:09,760 --> 02:31:10,319
>> um

3789
02:31:10,319 --> 02:31:12,560
>> I'm going to put it as 400

3790
02:31:12,560 --> 02:31:14,960
>> grant for the radio.

3791
02:31:14,960 --> 02:31:17,520
Um and maybe at some time you could have

3792
02:31:17,520 --> 02:31:19,760
a page where it like changes or

3793
02:31:19,760 --> 02:31:21,120
something changes from last year, you

3794
02:31:21,120 --> 02:31:22,720
know, big

3795
02:31:22,720 --> 02:31:24,960
>> and we like potential purchase property

3796
02:31:24,960 --> 02:31:27,520
or this way we transferred money might

3797
02:31:27,520 --> 02:31:31,429
have changed something.

3798
02:31:31,439 --> 02:31:33,760
» Yeah, I was gonna

3799
02:31:33,760 --> 02:31:35,520
sorry I'll raise my hand and wait my

3800
02:31:35,520 --> 02:31:36,720
turn.

3801
02:31:36,720 --> 02:31:38,399
>> Okay.

3802
02:31:38,399 --> 02:31:40,720
Yeah. Yeah. I was going to bring up um

3803
02:31:40,720 --> 02:31:42,160
somewhere in the very beginning. I think

3804
02:31:42,160 --> 02:31:43,760
it would be helpful just to have a

3805
02:31:43,760 --> 02:31:47,920
summary of uh um additional expenses for

3806
02:31:47,920 --> 02:31:51,600
the proposed budget. Um just related to

3807
02:31:51,600 --> 02:31:53,439
uh I wrote out notes and now I lost my

3808
02:31:53,439 --> 02:31:55,439
notes, but something just like uh

3809
02:31:55,439 --> 02:31:57,680
additional FTEEs, um additional

3810
02:31:57,680 --> 02:31:59,760
equipment, just large items. If we had a

3811
02:31:59,760 --> 02:32:01,840
summary right up front of what those

3812
02:32:01,840 --> 02:32:03,920
major changes are in the budget, um that

3813
02:32:03,920 --> 02:32:10,070
would be helpful, I think. Interesting.

3814
02:32:10,080 --> 02:32:10,960
» And then obviously

3815
02:32:10,960 --> 02:32:12,479
>> see if I can figure out how to do that.

3816
02:32:12,479 --> 02:32:17,349
Okay.

3817
02:32:17,359 --> 02:32:19,760
» To me this year.

3818
02:32:19,760 --> 02:32:21,760
>> Yeah, we didn't have we didn't have very

3819
02:32:21,760 --> 02:32:23,760
many um this year, so I don't think

3820
02:32:23,760 --> 02:32:25,520
it'll be a heavy lift, but just having

3821
02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:28,240
that, you know, right up front.

3822
02:32:28,240 --> 02:32:30,399
Um it may be even something that Ben can

3823
02:32:30,399 --> 02:32:35,359
just include in his um opening letter

3824
02:32:35,359 --> 02:32:37,439
>> when I do open my regulation book every

3825
02:32:37,439 --> 02:32:39,520
year up front. Yeah. Here in red are the

3826
02:32:39,520 --> 02:32:41,200
changes or something different just so

3827
02:32:41,200 --> 02:32:42,720
you

3828
02:32:42,720 --> 02:32:44,720
made aware. And then on page four the

3829
02:32:44,720 --> 02:32:46,240
LLC where we were one of the first

3830
02:32:46,240 --> 02:32:50,790
founding members of LLC in 1925.

3831
02:32:50,800 --> 02:32:52,880
» Anybody else have any other changes or

3832
02:32:52,880 --> 02:32:55,280
things they'd like to potentially vote

3833
02:32:55,280 --> 02:32:57,600
on?

3834
02:32:57,600 --> 02:32:59,760
I I would just go and make sure that the

3835
02:32:59,760 --> 02:33:01,439
some of the charts were wrong like the

3836
02:33:01,439 --> 02:33:02,720
years

3837
02:33:02,720 --> 02:33:05,120
>> the all the clerical adjustments

3838
02:33:05,120 --> 02:33:07,359
>> dropped.

3839
02:33:07,359 --> 02:33:10,479
>> Okay. So

3840
02:33:10,479 --> 02:33:12,800
noting that, I'm looking for an approval

3841
02:33:12,800 --> 02:33:14,720
of tonight's

3842
02:33:14,720 --> 02:33:28,070
budget.

3843
02:33:28,080 --> 02:33:30,160
» I'll offer a motion to approve the

3844
02:33:30,160 --> 02:33:33,600
budget with the changes discussed.

3845
02:33:33,600 --> 02:33:35,359
Councelor Holmes, budget committee

3846
02:33:35,359 --> 02:33:38,160
member makes the motion to accept the

3847
02:33:38,160 --> 02:33:42,399
2026 2027 budget with amendments or

3848
02:33:42,399 --> 02:33:45,600
changes noted. Any second?

3849
02:33:45,600 --> 02:33:46,880
>> I'll second.

3850
02:33:46,880 --> 02:33:50,080
>> I will second that. And um Mr. Mayor, if

3851
02:33:50,080 --> 02:33:52,800
we can just clarify the process now uh

3852
02:33:52,800 --> 02:33:55,120
just to get on the record so um the

3853
02:33:55,120 --> 02:33:56,560
public understands if they watch this

3854
02:33:56,560 --> 02:33:58,319
video.

3855
02:33:58,319 --> 02:34:01,920
>> Yes. Um the discussion we have a first

3856
02:34:01,920 --> 02:34:03,680
and a second to accept this budget. Now

3857
02:34:03,680 --> 02:34:05,359
this budget will be recommended to

3858
02:34:05,359 --> 02:34:07,920
council um with the changes and they'll

3859
02:34:07,920 --> 02:34:09,680
bring it back within the next month or

3860
02:34:09,680 --> 02:34:10,000
so

3861
02:34:10,000 --> 02:34:10,720
>> in June. Yes.

3862
02:34:10,720 --> 02:34:12,800
>> In June and then we'll revisit it was

3863
02:34:12,800 --> 02:34:15,600
our public hearing. Um they'll be open

3864
02:34:15,600 --> 02:34:18,240
to the public which will discuss any

3865
02:34:18,240 --> 02:34:20,640
changes and then the council will vote

3866
02:34:20,640 --> 02:34:24,080
on approval of the budget.

3867
02:34:24,080 --> 02:34:26,560
So this is approving the recommendation

3868
02:34:26,560 --> 02:34:29,280
proving uh to the council

3869
02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:31,120
>> and the final numbers are always

3870
02:34:31,120 --> 02:34:34,160
published in the paper also will be

3871
02:34:34,160 --> 02:34:35,920
published for the budget.

3872
02:34:35,920 --> 02:34:37,520
>> Any more discussion? Anything else

3873
02:34:37,520 --> 02:34:40,000
council president?

3874
02:34:40,000 --> 02:34:42,319
>> I'm good. Thank you. A a job well done

3875
02:34:42,319 --> 02:34:43,920
again to city staff. Thank you very much

3876
02:34:43,920 --> 02:34:46,240
for your work on this. I know it's a

3877
02:34:46,240 --> 02:34:48,080
large endeavor and I'm always impressed

3878
02:34:48,080 --> 02:34:49,680
with the way that we run our budget

3879
02:34:49,680 --> 02:34:52,080
process every year.

3880
02:34:52,080 --> 02:34:54,240
Yes, I echo that. I've seen a couple

3881
02:34:54,240 --> 02:34:56,800
other cities and it's been very

3882
02:34:56,800 --> 02:34:58,080
fortunate. You guys have done a really

3883
02:34:58,080 --> 02:35:01,120
good job making this understandable and

3884
02:35:01,120 --> 02:35:03,680
thorough and um we've been very

3885
02:35:03,680 --> 02:35:05,520
fortunate to be in a good position where

3886
02:35:05,520 --> 02:35:08,080
we are. Um so appreciate it and that's

3887
02:35:08,080 --> 02:35:09,760
thanks to all of you guys for sure. You

3888
02:35:09,760 --> 02:35:10,960
guys have all been here a lot longer

3889
02:35:10,960 --> 02:35:12,880
than I have. So thank you. Thank

3890
02:35:12,880 --> 02:35:14,000
>> Thank you to the budget committee

3891
02:35:14,000 --> 02:35:16,240
members too. Uh your guys' work and your

3892
02:35:16,240 --> 02:35:17,520
time

3893
02:35:17,520 --> 02:35:21,120
>> um should be uh noted as well.

3894
02:35:21,120 --> 02:35:23,760
Appreciate it very much. Thank you.

3895
02:35:23,760 --> 02:35:25,439
Okay. All those in favor state by saying

3896
02:35:25,439 --> 02:35:26,160
I.

3897
02:35:26,160 --> 02:35:27,040
>> I.

3898
02:35:27,040 --> 02:35:28,640
>> Oppos.

3899
02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:31,760
>> Motion carries. Okay. We will adjourn

3900
02:35:31,760 --> 02:35:35,359
this uh budget committee meeting. Um and

3901
02:35:35,359 --> 02:35:38,240
in 5 minutes at 8:10 we'll start up real

3902
02:35:38,240 --> 02:35:41,200
quick the uh urban renewal budget

3903
02:35:41,200 --> 02:35:45,240
committee meeting. And that should