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Meeting, everybody please rise for the public meeting.

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I pledge allegiance to the spirit of the United States of America and to the product of which stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Councilor Layne-Marcos.

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Present.

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Councilor Campy-Dellar.

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Councilor Vicki Lowe.

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Councilor Rachel Adams.

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or Anderson, I'm sorry.

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Deputy Mayor Brandon Jamies.

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Present.

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Chancellor Lowell-Rampton, Mayor Tom Farrell.

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The Interrogate Emotion to dismiss both Tom

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and Lowell for excused actions.

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Do you

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have a position?

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Objection.

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Do you have an Emotion passes?

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Item 4 approval of the final agenda.

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Is there any changes anybody wants to make?

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I would like to move item 9.1 to right after item number six.

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I have some people that I would like to speak to.

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I have number five public comments.

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Let me read this script. Sorry guys.

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The public comment she has been collected for those attending in person.

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Comments will be taken every other one from those attending virtually by phone or in person.

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But those attending virtually are by phone, if you would like to provide public comment.

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Please now press or raise your hand icon or if you're on the phone press not.

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Each person will have three minutes to speak on any topic and there will be a timer visible on the street.

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And you total of 30 minutes will be permitted to provide comment. Please get your name, address, and if you're representing an organization.

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Again, for those who are virtual or on the phone, please no press or raise your hand icon or press star nine.

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My name is Rebecca Horst. I am a resident of the city of Squim and I originally submitted a

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proclamation for pride and I would like to read that because I would like the community

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to know what I submitted. Whereas the month of June is chosen as pride month across the nation

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to commemorate the catalyst of the LGBT rights movement known as the Stonewall

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riots of June 1969, and whereas the President of the United States proclaimed the month of June 2021

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as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer pride month, and furthermore stated,

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I call upon the people of the United States to recognize the achievements of the LGBTQ plus

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community, to celebrate the great diversity of the American people and to wave their flags of

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pride high and whereas the governor of Washington state proclaimed the month of June 2021 lesbian gay

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bisexual transgender queer two-spirit and intersex pride month and whereas every individual is equal

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before and under the law and has the right to equal protection and equal benefit of the law

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without discrimination based on race nation ethnic origin color religion sex age or mental

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or physical disability and whereas we all have an obligation to understand those rights

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and treat each other's human condition at the core of every citizen of all ages with respect

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and dignity and whereas all demographics deserve to be heard even when their voices are silenced

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and whereas many of SWIM's LGBT plus retirement community are content to declare their advocacy

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days are over and they intend to live in peaceful retirement and whereas Swim has a thriving

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youth and young adult and middle-aged LGBT plus community that needs nurturing self-respect

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that comes from representation and visible symbols of inclusivity and acceptance openly

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displayed that leads to the ability to make healthy choices and cope with the challenges

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life brings for the greatest chance for future success.

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Now, therefore, the City Council of Swim, Washington, does hereby proclaim June as lesbian, gay,

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bisexual, transgender, queer, two-spirit, and intersex pride month.

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This is what I submitted.

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The reason I submitted this, many reasons, one we've never done it before.

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I want everyone to know that, according to the Trevor Projects 2022 National Survey,

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LGBTQ youth who live in a community that is accepting of the LGBTQ people reported significantly lower

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rates of attempting suicide than those who do not. 45% of LGBT youth this year have admitted

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to considering suicide. This flag represents identity and it represents support. It does

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not represent a political ideology, as I was told when I tried to hand this over to the

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city of Swim to fly on the pole. This represents people and when you raise it, you're raising

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the LGBTQ community. And I am asking you to possibly reconsider the decision by the city

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attorney to fly this flag during this month. So these younger LGBT youth, the citizens who

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are quiet, finished with their advocacy, the young adults in the middle age can

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all look up and see that we have pride and we support our community here. Thank you.

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Before the next one, I have a question. Is there a way to get a few more chairs in here that doesn't

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I didn't lock the fire exits.

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Excuse me.

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My guess is they're right up here.

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Come stay closer to us.

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sorry for the delay there. Next person we have joining us is from our remote

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audience, Mr. Hodgson. Mr. Hodgson, you may now unmute your microphone and you may address

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the council.

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Thank

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you. Good evening, Councillors, City staff, members of the community. My name

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is Mark Hodgson. I live at 1725 West 16th Street in Fort Angeles, and I'm here

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tonight as a board member with Habitat for Humanity, Clowham County.

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Affordable housing is one of the top issues women's surrounding areas face

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today. The housing crisis has far-reaching effects on the current

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health of our citizenry and the long-term sustainability of our

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communities. Potential homeowners are simply priced out of today's limited housing stock.

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And although the seriousness of the issue is well known,

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governmental response has been inadequate or too slow.

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Nearly three months ago, this council voted to accept the Planning Commission's recommended

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changes to the comprehensive plan. Those changes allow for development of multi-family

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units within the city. However, despite acceptance of the Planning Commission's recommendations,

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The same zoning restrictions remain in effect today.

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With those restrictions in place,

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we cannot begin to resolve the housing crisis.

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Habitat Clalamone's four and a half acres of property in Squim

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and recently received a generous donation of $1 million

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from the Mackenzie Scott Foundation.

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Unfortunately, the delay in zoning changes

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has prevented us from using the property

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to build affordable multi-family housing.

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This delay is burdensome on a community already struggling with affordable housing and, frankly, unacceptable.

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This moment calls for more.

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I'm here to ask you to take bold, purposeful and swift action to ensure the proposed zoning changes move through the municipal process in an efficient and timely manner.

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The longer the process takes, the longer it will be until Habitat Clowlam can provide

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safe, decent and affordable housing for families in Swim.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Hodgson.

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Yes.

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I would invite you to reach out to Manager Hewish, he would be able to share with you

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some insight on the progress of those changes that we made a while back.

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I appreciate that.

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Thank you.

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And I, I'm sorry.

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There is a report on that the council asked city staff to report them in the city manager report and part of the community doesn't have that right now from here from Steve as part of the city manager report tonight.

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Okay.

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Okay, next step is Jim black.

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Good evening.

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Okay.

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I just want to address a couple, a couple of meetings ago, you talked about the homeless and housing homeless here in swim and how you were going to do that.

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Excuse me sir go ahead and press the button on the microphone.

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There you go.

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Yes. Yes. Okay, you were talking about the homeless here and possibly having property here and swim that you're going to possibly manage to have a homeless camp.

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And I don't know the details about that, but has to do with homeless and home sharing and dealing with that issue in our community for the homeless.

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I don't know the details, and I don't have a big speech here prepared, but I guess what I want to ask for when you do talk about those things, can we have a discussion with you are representatives, instead of just common periods like this.

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I came from Bellevue in the Seattle area and we had a low barrier men's shelter that was going to be housed right next to the Eastgate Park and ride.

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And we had discussions with the public. We had discussions with county members, county council members account with the city council of Bellevue and Seattle, and that was a positive thing for all of us.

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So just to give comments here isn't enough.

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Also, you can get ideas on how to do that better than it's been done in the past.

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You talked here last time here about an agency that you might hire to do that.

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Well, we don't know what that means, but we know one thing.

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It doesn't work in Seattle, it hasn't worked in Bellevue, it hasn't worked in Los Angeles.

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If we're going to do something like that here, let's do it in a way that is going

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to be positive for the community and positive for the people that you're trying to help.

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So my request is have an open forum, have a discussion instead of just comments. Thanks.

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Sir, would you like to leave your contact information with the city court for future follow up?

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I would do that.

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And just a reminder for those at home, if you care to leave public comment for the council, you may do so by pressing star nine, you may raise your hand, or press, if you're using the zoom app, you can press the raise your hand icon.

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Then Kathleen Kean.

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Hi.

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My name is Kathleen Kean.

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I did a 61 discovery review drive in

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swim I came here last city council meeting and spoke to you about my concerns about

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the corporation of the city of

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swim planning, doing planning meetings with the tribal corporation.

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It seems to me that the first people that were missing were the people.

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So we invited some townspeople so they could start learning about some of these things because we do have big concerns about them.

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As far as what Jim was just saying about this comment period happening only at the beginning

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of the meetings, it does feel a little unfair. It almost feels like a phone censorship to me

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because how can we comment on what's going on in the meeting when it hasn't happened yet?

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So I know it's hard to run meetings and I'm not trying to, but in a situation like this, we might need to have a little bit more back and forth.

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So if you can consider that we appreciate it.

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And then I really do want to talk a little bit more about this home sharing idea.

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I'm very concerned about it.

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My husband and I were landlords for almost 30 years and one of the reasons that we gave that up is because the laws were changing such that it gave me the tenants more rights than the property owner.

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And in this situation, I really do wonder if you do have a problem tenant, how are you going to get rid of them?

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They're living in your home. How do you get rid of them? It's not that easy, not with the laws that are in place today.

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So, these things have to be considered. Also, I'm worried about the homeowner's safety and their property.

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You know, what happens, you know, with a tenant living there? Is there insurance going to cover them?

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Or is the City of Swim going to provide extra insurance coverage?

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I mean, I just don't want to wake up in the morning and read about the home that got burned

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down because somebody was smoking a crack pipe in the bed, you know, we don't know what's

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going to happen.

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We know a lot of these homeless people have drug problems and crazy things happen when

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people are on drugs, so I'm very worried for the people and anyway, I just wanted

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to bring those concerns to the council and help you consider them. Thank you.

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Okay, moving on to item number six, proclamations to here. First one would be appreciation for the

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contributions of Eric Baratowski. Is he on Zoom, you know?

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Unfortunately, he's traveling

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the night and so he has apologetically said he's not there. So, unfortunately.

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Okay. All right. City of Scam proclamation recognizing Barry Berazowski for exceptional

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leadership and dedicated service as the Department of Community Development Director. Whereas

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Barry Berazowski began his public service career in community development in 1989 and whereas

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as his retirement signifies the 33 year career,

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serving as a planner at the state, county,

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and local levels of government within Washington state.

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And whereas Barry served in his hometown of Swim,

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he's in the community development department

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during the last five years of his career,

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overseeing planning, economic development,

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building and code compliance.

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And whereas Barry was a key player

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of the City of Swim team bringing vast amounts of experience to his work and whereas with

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the help of Barry's technical knowledge and leadership, the City of Swim adopted comprehensive

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plan and zoning toward amendments and whereas Barry cared deeply about Swim and worked

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towards actions and decisions that were in Swim's best interest and whereas Barry's

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quick wit and humor for our joining connection to those who work with him. His contributions

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will be missed by staff, council, and members of the community. And now therefore the City Council

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of the City of Swim, Washington, is hereby proclaimed its great appreciation for the

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contributions of Barry Berazowski. Recognition and gratitude for the lasting value of his

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contributions to see a swim will claim by the mayor of swim this 13th day of

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June by Mayor Tom Farrell.

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Any member of the council have any comments?

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Item 6.2 recognition of pride month and I do have something that the mayor

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wished for me to read prior.

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He states I signed this proclamation with

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significant deflection and introspection that our society with

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differences is one of the kids of one people. We are all in this life together and inclusion of

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everyone is the only thing that makes sense. Congratulations on this proclamation and all

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should take this moment to cherish our diverse citizenry, Marathon.

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CSWIN Proclamation recognizing

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Pride Month 2022. Whereas our nation was founded on the principle of people right for all

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people critical moments in American history have impacted civil rights movements and whereas

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a major watershed event for equal rights for the LGBTQ plus community occurred on June 28,

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1969 in New York City known as the Stonewall riots and whereas LGBTQ plus private celebrations

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occur nationally and globally every June to commemorate the Stonewall event and has become Pride Month.

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And whereas the City of Swim has a diverse LGBTQ plus community that includes people of all ethnicities, religions, professions, families.

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And whereas all people should expect to live without fear of prejudice discrimination, violence and hatred for any reason, including against sexual orientation and gender identity.

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And whereas all citizens should take this moment to reflect on ensuring human kindness and respect for all residents and build a culture of inclusion for all.

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Now, therefore, the mayor and the city council, the city of Swim, Washington, does hear my

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honor and recognize the month of June 2022 as Pride Month and encourage all citizens to

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celebrate, proclaimed and presented by the mayor of Swim on this 13th day of June 2022,

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Mayor Tom Barra.

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I am dissenting from this proclamation and would like to honor the original proclamation.

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submitted by Miss Horst. Human rights are not political. We do great harm to people by pretending

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that they are. And just a reminder that slavery was a human rights violation and it was legal.

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Indian boarding schools were human rights violations and they were legal. The equal

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protections under the 14th amendment is the law of the land. If this makes you feel uncomfortable

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than maybe you need some self-reflection.

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We're finally living in a time where children who are LGBTQ+,

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can maybe grow up and not be grown to be heterosexual.

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This will have a huge impact on the mental health

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of our children.

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Discrimination, racism, and white supremacy

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are not political.

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Sorry, those are human rights violations.

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We need to raise those who have been oppressed up

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until they are equal on the same chance of the rest of us. Thank you.

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Any comments from council?

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If you can unbind with the one that we did. Thank you.

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Thank you everybody for a shout out coming to for these two proclamations.

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Okay, number nine point actually let's get a consent nine point one sorry.

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The skin housing and health collaborative mid-year reports.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I'm sure he was going to do a near about a year, they received information

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in the packet, so they're just going to summarize that.

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And then be.

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Thank you so much. Good evening and thank you for this time that we have here together.

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As Cherie said, I'm Andrea Smith with the Swim Food Bank and tonight I have with me this evening

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Sandra Allen from Peninsula Behavioral Health and Sarah Nichols from the Swim Food Clinic.

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And I think also on virtually we also have other members of our team from a healthy family called County

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Olympic Community Action Programs, Olympic Peninsula Community Clinic and also United Play.

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So, inside your package, you do have a video presentation of our half-year update.

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But as the Scrim Health and Housing Collaborative continues to move through our fourth year of work, the mission and focus remains the same.

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To promote community health and pathways to housing with a synergistic and unified approach.

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This means continuing to reach out to those individuals and families who may be facing challenges related to homelessness, housing, food insecurity, family safety, unmet mental health, and substance use means, and health care treatment.

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So we're here to answer any questions if you guys may have from the presentation that was in your packet.

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If

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you want to help us, great presentation. I enjoy the information. I'm grateful. I was part of the early beginnings as time got busy and code and move on regret having that ongoing engagement, but this is genuine me and as I've become very clear on the commitment.

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that you may be shown and those in the team

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who are grateful for the energy and time you give

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and that you certainly meet the needs

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that we have in our communities.

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Thank

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you.

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Councilor Anderson, did you have anything?

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I don't have any questions.

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I'm just extremely grateful for all the work that they do.

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I was going to mention it later in the meeting,

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but now might be a good time.

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I'm part of a growing community

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where our rent keeps going up and our income is staying the same and so within the next

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year or two, my family and I might be at risk of being homeless and so I'm trying to come

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to terms with that and trying to find other options and I just really appreciate the

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work that the SCWM Health and Housing Collaborative does for families like mine. So thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you Councilor Anderson.

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Thank you.

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So as I know the council is aware and most of our residents, but this collaborative

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was presented to the ICMA which is the International City County Management Association. It's

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a very well known as kind of the industry standard for city management. And they

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they had put out a call for creative programs

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and things like this.

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And so last October,

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Theresa was able to go to the annual meeting,

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which was important and received this award.

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They had some things wrong with it.

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We just took a while to get it back from them.

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So you've seen it before,

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but we will be hanging this up in our display cabinet

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out here,

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but it's a program excellence award for community partnerships and you all are the reason we've

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received this.

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So we thank the council for supporting it, we thank the previous administration for working

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with such great organizations as yours and we'll probably display this.

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So, thank you.

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I just want to echo what manager Hewis said that even though that says it is a swim

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It's really the individual within your guys' organization that has boots on the ground and it's really the people to thank for receiving this award. So thank you again.

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Thank you very much. Thank you.

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Item number seven, the consent agenda.

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We'll see if we can read the consent agenda.

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7.2 point vouchers totaling $840,669.

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dollars and 69 cents. Minutes of the regular city council meeting May 23rd, 2022. Request

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for public funds, the swim school district cares closet. Call for public hearing ordinance

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about being 20 22 cross connection manual and amending swim municipal code chapter

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They're 13.1, 2, 0.

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And the city manager employment agreement amendment.

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Senator Kayne, motion accept the consent agenda.

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I'm moving to accept the consent agenda as read.

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I'll second it.

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The motion is seconded. Is there any opposition?

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I see none.

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The motion passes.

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Item number eight, general business.

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Item 8.1, stormwater management code and update,

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the swim municipal code chapter 13.104.

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And this will be the second reading.

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City Manager Fewish.

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Thank you.

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We have our deputy director of full force here

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to present that to you, Don, and set the podium.

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Good evening, council members.

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Good evening, council members.

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Don Steewar, city engineer.

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Good evening, board of worship director.

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You have before you the stormwater, new stormwater management code.

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This is a second touch and I'm here if you have any questions.

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Any questions you can counsel or staff?

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If you have some range of stuff, you can put your hand up so I remember that you're up there.

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Seeing none, there is an optional motion and a recommendation.

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You

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want to move this to a public hearing of the next regular schedule to the council meeting or move to adopt.

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The new stormwater guidelines.

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Motion is made.

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Is there a second?

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Good move and second.

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Is there any objection?

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Seeing none, the motion passes.

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So there were public hearings with the planning commission, right? And no one gave the comments.

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I watched the videos.

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I don't remember. I don't remember public comments coming in.

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Okay.

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I just want to make sure it gave time for the public to get comments, but they did during the planning commission.

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I'm sorry, just to note that we have to do a public hearing for that item. We can't move to adopt until we have the public hearing. So, okay.

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Sorry to interrupt.

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Do you wish to.

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I wish to retract.

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I wish to retract.

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my motion to adopt the stormwater ordinance.

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Would somebody please second?

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I second that.

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Any opposition to the motion to retract that motion?

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To amend the motion to retract passes

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and this will move to public hearing

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and that's where we'll schedule to also meeting.

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Apologies, Debbie Mayor.

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We've worked without our city attorney

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and our clerk tonight.

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So, some of your technicalities, but appreciate those standing in.

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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8.2 trespass warnings.

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The new moon, this whole city code chapter. This will be a second reading.

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And chief crane is prepared to do that.

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Evening everyone.

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Yeah. So you had asked that we make some adjustments based on comments.

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We heard at the last council meeting.

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So I guess for the record that she said, and I'm sure you're crying.

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So, this is the trespass warnings this is the ordinance that talks about actual city operations right how would we deal with something, somebody disrupting city operations so it's a very limited ordinance, internal looking really.

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Some of the concerns and questions were about any potential right focusing on people for kind of who they are and not what their behavior is.

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So I think we've provided a little bit of additional language that will kind of reiterate that no, there's nothing focused on classes, who they are, it's really we're looking at behavior that is kind of beyond the pale.

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So specifically glasses on because the font is small.

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Specifically, we added the reference to ADA page two. There's a couple of different areas where we put in ADA. And of course, ADA is a long behemoth of a thing that talks a lot about protections and what you can and cannot do.

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So I think that'll cover that end of it. And then we also added.

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Oh, so the bottom of page two under no circumstances made this chapter be used as a method for excluding any particular group or person engaged in otherwise lawful behavior, including without limitation, homeless individuals, juveniles will just solicitors just for examples.

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So I leave it to you folks now to tell me whether or not those additional changes are sufficient.

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And then after that, it's really up to you as to how you want to move forward.

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The recommendations have a couple of different options. This is second touch.

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We could ask for a public hearing. If you wanted a public hearing, it doesn't require one.

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And then obviously if you are satisfied with the changes and we're ready to move forward, you also have the option of voting to move it forward.

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And I'm here for any questions and to take any comments you might have.

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Absolutely.

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Thank you. Those addressed my concerns.

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Councilor Rafton is not here, but I think the rest of the same.

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Okay.

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There's no further council comment. I'm ready to make a motion.

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I move to waive council rules and approve the ordinance adopting the new squid municipal

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code chapter 9.45 trust that's warning for public seat.

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I second it motion has been made and seconded there's a additional council discussion.

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If you have one question, do you think that council or Rathbun would have wanted a public

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of caring, based on his last comments of this item.

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So, the motions on the table, is there any objections?

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Seeing none, the motion passes.

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I make

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0.3 public private street policy discussion.

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This will be presented by our Public Works Director,

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Sarah Van Osten.

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Well, good evening, Council.

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Hope everyone's doing well this evening.

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Tonight staff is bringing forward a topic that's been touched on several times in the

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past and that's the issue of public and private streets.

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Several months ago a council member formulated several questions specifically to staff regarding

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this issue and the presentation that you saw in your agenda packet this last week was

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specifically directed at answering those questions and also providing some additional

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information that hopefully will be helpful to you in trying to decide how to move forward with this process.

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Your agenda cover actually summarizes sort of the four issues, and I'll just briefly retouch on them.

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Number one, currently HOAs are requesting that the city take ownership of private streets in their neighborhoods.

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Number two, there is no current policy for adopting private streets.

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streets. Third, some existing private streets are being used by the general public for connectivity.

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And fourth, the city's current code, which requires new streets to be public, creates

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both road islands and public maintenance costs for no benefit to the general public. Before

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I go any further on this, I wanted to let you know that I received a call from a citizen

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and who was a member of an HOA this afternoon, and he wanted to give his input that the presentation

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he viewed it didn't really address the homeowner's perspective of the situation.

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So I assured him that I'd be happy to share his insights with you this evening.

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And he said that currently it's not really a great situation if homeowners are to take

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care of private streets. They're not the ones that know how to do it. HOAs are typically not

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prepared and don't have the knowledge to do that. He said the city actually knows the most

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and has the equipment and the knowledge of how to maintain the streets. And he just felt like

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it was important to say that some sort of cooperative effort between the city and the HOAs

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he thought would be the best possible solution. So I assured him that I would share that

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information with you this evening.

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So basically it kind of boils down to what

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staff believes is two distinct issues but maybe council can identify more and

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that is one does council want to reconsider requiring public streets

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in all our new developments that actually serve no public benefit or

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council find with that citywide policy. And then secondly, does council want to adopt a policy for

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accepting current private streets? And if so, what would be the criteria for doing so?

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So we've sort of given you all the information we could compile around the issue and staff. It's

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just here to listen to council and ask for direction and input, how you might want to

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proceed or not proceed with this issue if you're interested in open council

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discussion, if you need more input or facts from staff, public outreach, if you

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have specific proposals, we're here to listen to that. And I just wanted to

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add to the public works is bringing this forward but it's not just a public

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works issue. Obviously DCD is heavily involved with this in terms of the

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comprehensive plan and compliance with that.

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It's a legal issue as you read and heard in the presentation.

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It's obviously a financial issue as well.

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And then obviously the police department get involved

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when you start adopting for private streets as public.

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So it's really a citywide issue and decision.

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With that, we're here to listen.

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Thank you for that email to council.

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Yeah, every time that you receive from that individual.

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It wasn't an email. It was a phone call.

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So, but I can write down those specific points that he made. If you'd like to forward it to council, please. Okay.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I just wanted to ask.

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You gave me the standards for the streets when I asked for them.

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But the two years before that I could not get that information out of the city.

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And I think the first step would to be is give the age of ways, the standards for a public street.

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And then if they can meet those standards because I was told they can't do it because they don't know who built the street, what standard was it built to, etc, etc.

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If you could just the city could come up with those standards like you gave me or make it a process so that people that they want to apply for their street to become public or for the city to take it over.

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They would have to bring it up to those standards.

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And I also want to say when most people buy into an HOA, they know it's a private road.

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They're told that before escrow closes, and many HOAs have a street fund that people pay

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into for repairs to streets.

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But in the other hand, all those HOA people also pay city taxes to have streets repair.

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Thank you.

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Any comments from Council?

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Councilor Armstrong.

454
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Yeah, one year video presentation was inviting very informative for the gentleman in the from the HOA was he indicating his willingness to financially support the concept of the city taking over.

455
00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:46,210
He indicated concern that the HOA did not have funds available to bring the streets up to city standards or to make the necessary repairs.

456
00:44:47,370 --> 00:44:59,690
You know, the challenge on public streets have been an item since I started the council back in 18. I have a better understanding today than I did that, of course, the financial.

457
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:21,080
Commitment from the city, the substantial. The benefit of time from what I'm understanding, even in the private developments, the standard of the construction, the bedding of the pipes, the process of our trained professionals observing the quality of actually what's being done before it's covered up has significantly improved.

458
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:32,480
But then we have the potential of resort development, i.e. the Wayne property, that financially it's hard for the developer on that scale to bring it up to speed.

459
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,180
So it's a real sticky wicket, if you will.

460
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:44,940
I'm pro on to the new order of development if it's done properly and something will enhance the needs of our city.

461
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,600
I think as we continue to grow, which is inevitable.

462
00:45:48,360 --> 00:46:02,060
We have to really be keen on the core infrastructure, our ability to provide clean water or ability to deal with waste is something that continues to be a concern that I have from a budget point of view.

463
00:46:02,060 --> 00:46:04,460
of how can we address those needs financially

464
00:46:04,980 --> 00:46:07,520
to continue to retain the quality

465
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:12,100
that I'm proud to say Public Works has done an amazing job

466
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:15,260
at keeping a step ahead of the problem.

467
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,840
So doing a great job, the presentation,

468
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:19,260
the numbers were pretty staggering,

469
00:46:19,580 --> 00:46:21,320
even though you have a pretty good idea,

470
00:46:21,620 --> 00:46:23,360
it's big dollars and cents.

471
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:26,940
It's unfortunate, past, we can't change

472
00:46:26,940 --> 00:46:28,060
and we can learn from it.

473
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,560
And I think moving forward,

474
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:40,140
It's hard to put up in the box one size fits all. So we really need to look at that as an individual development and the extent of the benefits of the city as well as the liability.

475
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,640
So, you appreciate all we do.

476
00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:48,600
I can assure you that going forward it will be different. It is different already.

477
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,480
It's evident and it's appreciated. Thank you.

478
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:19,500
I think one of the things I heard from, I've never lived in an HOA, I've always lived in town, was like, when we had snow, and I knew I could get up and my street would be swept clean as snow, that they couldn't get anybody into their developments to clean the streets

479
00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:26,320
up because they had the HOA had to go out and get somebody to do that. Is there a way that they

480
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:32,340
can use, I'm not just throwing something out there, to use some of their street funds to pay the city

481
00:47:32,340 --> 00:47:40,340
for that service? Is that doesn't really provide pay to me though? All you have to do is sign a

482
00:47:40,340 --> 00:47:46,920
contract once a year with a snow removal. That's what my HOA does. And they come when you call them.

483
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,900
I don't think when it snowed like it did that there was that.

484
00:47:51,060 --> 00:47:52,580
We have that kind of capacity.

485
00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:55,900
When we had snow.

486
00:47:56,060 --> 00:47:56,360
Yeah.

487
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,580
Hopefully that's the only time we'll see that,

488
00:48:02,620 --> 00:48:05,760
but there probably is when it's a big event,

489
00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:08,540
there's, there's going to be issues and it's a struggle for the

490
00:48:08,540 --> 00:48:10,400
city to keep up with this as well.

491
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,600
I don't, in terms of your question, I don't know if there's any sort

492
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,540
of legal agreement that can be made or not. I get certainly inquired into that.

493
00:48:23,580 --> 00:48:30,540
Just an FYI, we have had the grace of our public works. Once they have taken care of their

494
00:48:30,540 --> 00:48:35,400
responsibility on the city's streets, they have actually gone in and helped clean.

495
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:41,080
There's also work in hand with Fire District 3. When we have emergencies, we need to get to

496
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:47,340
people. They've been there. What an amazing crew. And I also want to echo the comment

497
00:48:47,340 --> 00:48:54,080
that the councilor downer made as a business owner, having commercial clients, it's my

498
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,380
responsibility if I'm collecting the rent. I should provide a cleaning parking lot for

499
00:48:58,380 --> 00:49:05,120
them to have their customers enjoy as well as the sidewalks. There are individuals out

500
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,740
there. Now's a great time to plan ahead because we don't have that urgency. But

501
00:49:09,740 --> 00:49:14,680
if you can get the communication, especially if it's an HOA, to understand, yes, it

502
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:27,720
It could happen again, it'd be rather convenient if you have a long retainer or an opportunity to have that potential service, we plan. So any event that it happens, you make the phone call before like the checkbook.

503
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:30,540
Yeah,

504
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,360
the comments counselor.

505
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:47,740
I'm not sure I'm able to articulate all of the questions and comments I have it's such a complicated issue.

506
00:49:47,740 --> 00:50:05,060
I was thinking mostly about the, I don't know the names of subdivisions, but I know that there are subdivisions over by there's like a trailhead kind of out past I live at Elk Creek and so you know that it there's like a trailhead that connects to the ODT.

507
00:50:05,060 --> 00:50:20,980
And I think people drive through a couple subdivisions to be able to get there. And so, like that is a general public use street, but I don't know if that road is supposed to be private or not.

508
00:50:20,980 --> 00:50:39,920
And so it makes me wonder for if we did reconsider the private versus public thing, you know, what would the parameters be for saying who would have to become public streets and who wouldn't so.

509
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:50,820
So there's, it's just so, it seems so complex and, and we always want to try to be equitable.

510
00:50:51,880 --> 00:51:09,600
And I really liked Vicki's idea of like HOA's being able to have a contract or something either either with the city or even like a private business that will snow plow.

511
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:33,840
if HOA's would be able to pay for that, but that doesn't address the damage that can happen to streets, like if there's heatwaves and there's cracks in the street or if there are, if there's like flooding and freezing and that cracks the streets or makes a lot of potholes, you know, those HOA fees might not be able to cover that kind of maintenance.

512
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:48,480
And so it makes me wonder what are people in HOAs supposed to do if their dues or their fees, whatever they're called, if they don't compensate for that kind of damage.

513
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,060
And so it's complicated.

514
00:51:54,340 --> 00:51:59,620
And I wish I had a miracle answer.

515
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:17,280
I feel like it's definitely one of those issues where I would also like to hear from like HOA boards or HOA members specifically and kind of hear their pros and cons to

516
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:38,220
Because from a city, I mean, the financial impact could be, it could be a lot bigger for the city too, but if I don't know if we're able to like counteract that kind of expense somehow and so yeah, those are those are some of the thoughts going through my head.

517
00:52:38,220 --> 00:52:39,160
Councillor

518
00:52:42,620 --> 00:52:45,380
Anderson, any other comments from council?

519
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:50,370
If there is no motion at this time,

520
00:52:50,550 --> 00:52:53,690
how are staff with like direction from council on how to proceed?

521
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:06,340
I think Rachel's idea of getting more information from the people most impacted by HOA and the

522
00:53:06,340 --> 00:53:13,000
people out there. No, we've got Kathy or kind of our representative, the mole, but I don't know

523
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,900
I don't know how we could best do that.

524
00:53:17,350 --> 00:53:20,910
Have staff bring it back in the future.

525
00:53:21,090 --> 00:53:23,450
Sometimes we'll save time to do some research.

526
00:53:23,770 --> 00:53:27,650
We could reach out to the various HOA and ask for their input on the issue.

527
00:53:30,500 --> 00:53:30,940
No.

528
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:32,440
Council.

529
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,560
No, but I really would like to see the city start working on a checkout.

530
00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:38,920
It's really two separate issues.

531
00:53:39,260 --> 00:53:40,320
What are the standards.

532
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:47,040
for the streets to be considered the city street and what would the city do with people

533
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,600
that say, we've brought our streets up to standards now when we take this down.

534
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,420
So it's really two separate issues.

535
00:53:53,640 --> 00:54:00,240
I'd like to at least we need to start addressing it, even if we end up not doing anything

536
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:00,920
about it.

537
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:07,100
And let me remind everybody that people in the age of age today, just as much as everyone

538
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:07,540
else.

539
00:54:17,610 --> 00:54:28,490
Cathy, you know, I technically on the subdivisions when the developers are developing those are building lesser roads cheaper and they're meant for that specific travel.

540
00:54:29,730 --> 00:54:33,150
They typically will not do the depth of base.

541
00:54:33,810 --> 00:54:36,950
Rock they'll do substantially less.

542
00:54:37,330 --> 00:54:41,110
So when you have a smaller street like that, that.

543
00:54:41,110 --> 00:54:45,910
that you want to bring up to a city standard, you would core it and get a cross-section

544
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:46,970
of what's underneath it.

545
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:51,570
So let's say a typical road would have six inches of ag base and then you'd have three

546
00:54:51,570 --> 00:54:52,630
or four inches of asphalt.

547
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:57,530
So on a residential street that's private, the developer's saving money.

548
00:54:58,130 --> 00:55:04,490
He's going to put, say, three inches of ag base, if much, and say two to three

549
00:55:04,490 --> 00:55:05,190
inches of asphalt.

550
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:18,290
So when you do your coring in a subdivision and you're asking the subdivision to bring it up to city standards, the only way that you would be able to do that would be to excavate the street and rebuild it, which would be a huge cost.

551
00:55:18,610 --> 00:55:22,250
But you don't I don't know every single private road house and bill.

552
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:34,790
No, we don't but but the damage and that we see on the private roads, typically are built to a far less standard than the city standards.

553
00:55:34,790 --> 00:55:40,190
Well, the city still owns the water and sewer underneath and the very, and there are very

554
00:55:40,190 --> 00:55:40,870
powered on.

555
00:55:41,090 --> 00:55:45,850
So you do have the ability in the future to come in and work on those.

556
00:55:46,030 --> 00:55:49,350
It can't just be a core sample, you have to dig up the entire street.

557
00:55:49,690 --> 00:55:55,670
No, no, we do core, you would, they would hire core samples to be taken to evaluate

558
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:59,890
the street, the cross section to see how it compares to a city standard.

559
00:56:00,510 --> 00:56:16,530
And I could virtually guarantee that they're not built to city standards and the only way to bring it up to city standards would be to increase the depth of base and asphalt so that could handle the heavier traffic that we would require on our city streets.

560
00:56:16,850 --> 00:56:24,450
I understand what you're saying. So next time the city comes and works on the water and sewer in front of my house you have my permission to take your car.

561
00:56:26,330 --> 00:56:35,450
And report back to comes. Thank you. I understand what you're saying. Okay. I just wanted to be clear on that. Thank you, John.

562
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:41,560
Yeah.

563
00:56:43,140 --> 00:56:46,240
To help out Rachel she she actually made a really good point.

564
00:56:50,060 --> 00:56:52,820
I was going to say that she's right on.

565
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,500
Rachel had a good point and as far as we're getting back,

566
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:57,840
I'll just do with a weird.

567
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,480
I wanted to just emphasize too that our current city standards do

568
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,460
require private streets to be built to city standards now.

569
00:57:08,740 --> 00:57:12,360
And we do inspect that actual construction and installation.

570
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:13,300
Now.

571
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,780
So it's the past that we're talking about.

572
00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:22,560
I have one more comment.

573
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:31,680
If we had decided to start acquiring private streets to become public streets.

574
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:47,240
Would there be any way we could say we'll acquire your private street as a public street, once it needs to be repaved or something because it seems like the.

575
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:52,100
It would still be expensive to totally redo the street, right?

576
00:57:52,300 --> 00:58:02,060
But I think it would be less expensive to do that once the street kind of hit its, you know, end of life, end of life point.

577
00:58:02,500 --> 00:58:04,380
I hope I'm making sense.

578
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:07,760
So that was it. That was just my comment.

579
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:16,260
Well, that's the direction we're looking for is what do you want to concentrate on there. There is several issues outlined here and

580
00:58:17,420 --> 00:58:26,880
One of those is what Rachel actually alluded to was that there are some private streets being used for public connectivity, the one you're talking about between Key or Laugh Green Road.

581
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:32,260
That's a private street. Public uses it to get back and forth all the time. So that's a criteria.

582
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,860
Maybe it is that they bring it up to city standards.

583
00:58:37,140 --> 00:58:42,800
There's any number of possibilities, but we can start with one issue. We can start with three issues.

584
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:47,860
We were just here to see what council would like us to proceed with.

585
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,800
I'm going to try this. Do we want to go counsel by counselor and have.

586
00:58:53,740 --> 00:58:56,760
We would like them to bring back every point.

587
00:59:04,050 --> 00:59:07,410
Like, like, like take like a consensus is that.

588
00:59:08,090 --> 00:59:11,670
If you have something specific that you wanted to us out where they have a list of what.

589
00:59:14,430 --> 00:59:17,070
Okay. Yeah, I'm, I'm open to that.

590
00:59:21,900 --> 00:59:22,540
Sorry.

591
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:29,960
I really like this idea about seeing if any of the current streets meet standards,

592
00:59:30,220 --> 00:59:33,580
you know, we probably don't according to dawn, but at least starting there.

593
00:59:34,300 --> 00:59:42,720
And then I do want to really hear from the HRAs and the homeowners about what they think they could do to.

594
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,020
to make it work.

595
00:59:46,370 --> 00:59:47,790
That's about it.

596
00:59:47,790 --> 00:59:48,850
That's about it.

597
00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:52,470
That's where I'm from.

598
00:59:53,530 --> 00:59:55,050
I just want to echo what

599
00:59:55,050 --> 00:59:56,490
Dawn shared with us.

600
00:59:57,050 --> 00:59:58,350
Current private street developments

601
00:59:58,350 --> 00:59:59,750
fortunately have been

602
00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:59,970
.

603
01:00:00,370 --> 01:00:12,290
Observe a certain standard met in the construction to retrofit is where the cost becomes critical. It's to physically excavate and do it over.

604
01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:24,830
It's more expensive than if they did it properly first time. So that, I think, has to be handled on an individual case by case basis, again, based upon the needs of the people and the city.

605
01:00:24,830 --> 01:00:30,290
We are trying to meet the needs of all the citizens, not just certain groups.

606
01:00:30,750 --> 01:00:36,090
One of the realities when you choose to purchase this cap, the downer alluded.

607
01:00:36,930 --> 01:00:48,370
You're very clearly aware when you purchase into an HOA, the responsibility that you assume as a homeowner and part of that organization to be responsible for those maintenance of your streets.

608
01:00:48,370 --> 01:00:52,050
So it's part of the hard pill to swallow,

609
01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:54,970
beautiful when it starts out or when there's problems.

610
01:00:55,490 --> 01:00:57,610
If you haven't put away for that rainy day front

611
01:00:57,610 --> 01:01:00,410
of your roof is leaking, you have issues.

612
01:01:00,990 --> 01:01:03,970
So there's only so much our shoulders as a city

613
01:01:04,670 --> 01:01:05,950
can handle that burden.

614
01:01:09,070 --> 01:01:09,630
Councillor Anderson.

615
01:01:12,820 --> 01:01:16,540
I would really like to hear from the HOAs

616
01:01:16,540 --> 01:01:19,680
and hopefully we can,

617
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:26,900
And I can get a better idea of how our decisions would impact them.

618
01:01:28,140 --> 01:01:36,080
And that being said, I would hope that they would also be able to reach out to everyone

619
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:43,920
in their HOA and not just kind of make executive decisions about it, but I know that I can't

620
01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:45,500
be the authority on that.

621
01:01:45,500 --> 01:01:50,340
So, yeah, I would just really like to hear from HOA's

622
01:01:53,150 --> 01:01:54,410
to have enough direction.

623
01:01:55,270 --> 01:01:55,910
We have a lot.

624
01:01:58,670 --> 01:02:07,050
Well, thank you for your time wasn't sure how that would go, but I really appreciate your input and we will come back to you with some additional information.

625
01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:18,730
Moving on to item number nine reports.

626
01:02:18,730 --> 01:02:28,570
9.2 City Manager. Thank you very much, Council. We'll start with number 9.28, which is home

627
01:02:28,570 --> 01:02:33,930
chairing, and Therese will address that. She's our, of course, our assistant city manager.

628
01:02:34,250 --> 01:02:43,770
It's been tasked with the Council's request to do some research on the home chairing article

629
01:02:43,770 --> 01:02:49,850
that was shared with city staff, so she's prepared for that, and that's a key other report that happened as well.

630
01:02:50,250 --> 01:02:58,390
Thank you. Yes, Trace DeShane is the city manager for the record, and for the last few weeks since the last meeting,

631
01:02:58,670 --> 01:03:04,590
Council has directed us to take a look at home sharing and come back with a generalized report.

632
01:03:04,590 --> 01:03:21,930
And so I looked at the UW report, listened to many podcasts, reached out to about 25 different agencies and more and provided you with a three-page summary of what I've found just kind of to give you an overview of what home sharing is.

633
01:03:22,850 --> 01:03:32,010
And really, you know, there's anything from when you consider the basic tenets of home sharing is really someone is you're sharing a home, right?

634
01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:35,330
So, and then you can go even deeper from there.

635
01:03:35,590 --> 01:03:39,130
So, for instance, I talked with a company named Silver Nest.

636
01:03:39,930 --> 01:03:50,370
They're an agency that is nationally known and they provide it, they provide a service that's similar to like dating service, but for like, you know, home sharing.

637
01:03:50,370 --> 01:03:59,930
And that is a four, it's a market driven kind of product that is out there that anybody

638
01:03:59,930 --> 01:04:04,410
could use right now if we had people that were home providers or home share that someone

639
01:04:04,410 --> 01:04:08,890
who was a home seeker, excuse me, looking for a place to live.

640
01:04:09,850 --> 01:04:12,270
And so yeah, please check that out.

641
01:04:12,410 --> 01:04:12,950
That's an option.

642
01:04:13,850 --> 01:04:19,930
They have also – I've talked a little bit about – so that's the basic, like, market-driven.

643
01:04:20,730 --> 01:04:26,210
Homesharing is an issue that you can do, like, on a market issue – or market stance.

644
01:04:26,450 --> 01:04:26,910
Excuse me.

645
01:04:27,650 --> 01:04:32,170
And then I dove a little deeper and looked at things like, okay, there's the market-driven

646
01:04:32,590 --> 01:04:39,290
homeshare product, but there's also agencies that look at providing that service as well.

647
01:04:39,290 --> 01:04:47,490
So in the report, I outlined, you know, the for-profit market and then also the non-profit sector

648
01:04:47,490 --> 01:04:53,970
and also working with local governments. So in one case that I looked at, Silvernest partnered

649
01:04:53,970 --> 01:05:01,570
with an agency called HIP, it's in Montgomery County, Maryland. And Maryland had halls and

650
01:05:01,570 --> 01:05:07,910
services through their county, but they didn't have the program aspect of what the Silvernest

651
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:19,830
So SilverNest would come in, they outlined, you know, they connect you, you're doing like your profile. They help do background checks on anyone that's using their system.

652
01:05:20,410 --> 01:05:32,350
They help set up that basic agreement between individuals. So the difference that maybe home sharing could be, it doesn't have to be, but it can be a simple rent agreement.

653
01:05:32,350 --> 01:05:37,390
It also could be if one of the, you know, the seekers that was coming along and they

654
01:05:37,390 --> 01:05:40,750
couldn't pay as much, but the provider was looking for someone to help in their house

655
01:05:40,750 --> 01:05:45,030
or do chores or, you know, transportation needs, things like that, they could build

656
01:05:45,030 --> 01:05:49,810
that into their agreement so they help you like manage and actually work out an agreement

657
01:05:50,290 --> 01:05:54,910
and they also help with the insurance portion of it and they can help mediate as well.

658
01:05:55,050 --> 01:05:55,490
They're all trained.

659
01:05:55,810 --> 01:06:00,610
So some of these agencies that are partnering with groups like Silvernest have the

660
01:06:00,610 --> 01:06:07,170
wraparound services, they do that part of it. They also do the, you know, IT part

661
01:06:07,170 --> 01:06:12,590
of it and security checks and all that. And then that group is able to do what

662
01:06:12,590 --> 01:06:18,010
they do with their public agency or their nonprofit group. So that's what

663
01:06:18,010 --> 01:06:22,730
example and other examples I've checked out around Washington State, you know,

664
01:06:23,610 --> 01:06:29,390
like the Associated Ministries Program out of Tacoma, they started in 1991 as

665
01:06:29,390 --> 01:06:36,170
a different name, but they merged since then, started with a Christian organization noticing that

666
01:06:36,820 --> 01:06:41,990
there were some elderly people in their church that wanted to, they didn't have housing and so

667
01:06:41,990 --> 01:06:47,210
they connected, you know, members of their church and then they started an organization from there.

668
01:06:48,190 --> 01:06:54,910
So they provide, one of their offerings was strictly for they were trying to connect

669
01:06:54,910 --> 01:07:03,310
senior citizens that are looking for that particular, you know, service, the home seeker

670
01:07:04,030 --> 01:07:10,470
would be looking for a reduced rent or, you know, a companion. The home provider was looking for

671
01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:16,170
someone to maybe help provide a little more income, maybe companionship or help around the house.

672
01:07:16,550 --> 01:07:21,890
So that's one model and they also provide like teen services as well. So I outlined in this

673
01:07:21,890 --> 01:07:27,350
report a little bit of like you know the amount of lift that you as a city

674
01:07:27,350 --> 01:07:32,410
organization would take forward so like basic hey there's home sharing in our

675
01:07:32,410 --> 01:07:35,850
community because silver nest is here something that you don't have to get

676
01:07:35,850 --> 01:07:40,750
involved in you could you could help market that to okay maybe the city is

677
01:07:40,750 --> 01:07:44,650
interested in providing some wraparound services and helping a senior

678
01:07:44,650 --> 01:07:48,610
program get started in the community or something like that perhaps you

679
01:07:48,610 --> 01:07:52,930
would consider partnering with social services agencies that we have in the

680
01:07:52,930 --> 01:07:58,630
community or even if you wanted to go like further than that and you know look

681
01:07:58,630 --> 01:08:04,110
at teen teen homeless issues in the community you probably would start with

682
01:08:04,110 --> 01:08:08,030
talking with their McKinney-Vento at the school and talking to the

683
01:08:08,030 --> 01:08:12,630
representatives that have provided or can provide those services. One of the

684
01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:20,530
agencies I talked to that does work with Silver Nest is the Olympic Peninsula area on aging that

685
01:08:20,530 --> 01:08:26,350
serves Pacific County, Grace Harbor County, Jefferson County, and Clowham County. And they're

686
01:08:26,350 --> 01:08:32,210
currently working out an agreement with Silver Nest to provide services for their focusing on

687
01:08:32,210 --> 01:08:39,570
the aging. So one of the members, well, if the provider, the provider has to be a senior

688
01:08:39,570 --> 01:08:47,190
citizen over 60, and the seeker can be 18 or over, but they're working on that program and

689
01:08:47,190 --> 01:08:52,150
intend to launch that in July of this year. So that's something that's actually in our area right

690
01:08:52,150 --> 01:08:59,410
now. But it's definitely the report that I outlined, and I know I did touch base briefly on

691
01:09:00,470 --> 01:09:06,070
short-term rentals and Airbnb, and I only mentioned that because there are

692
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:12,590
are interested in renting out rooms with Airbnb and there are people that do short-term rental

693
01:09:12,590 --> 01:09:20,670
of a room in their home and that is like considered home sharing whereas Airbnb renting out their

694
01:09:20,670 --> 01:09:25,990
entire house for that use would not be considered home sharing the way that I've read about

695
01:09:25,990 --> 01:09:31,330
it in the articles and different guides and things like that that I've reviewed.

696
01:09:31,330 --> 01:09:36,350
But I'll just turn it over to you for questions.

697
01:09:36,850 --> 01:09:45,210
I did provide you a, an outline and I have like told you I talked about 25 different agencies and I'm waiting for some responses.

698
01:09:45,850 --> 01:09:51,350
This is what we have to date and I'll continue doing that work for you to let you know what others are doing.

699
01:09:51,950 --> 01:09:59,170
But asked questions like, you know, how was your program funded? Who does your program serve? How was your program started?

700
01:09:59,730 --> 01:10:05,010
What's the annual budget, the average amount your agency is spending per month, the number

701
01:10:05,010 --> 01:10:12,090
of people housed per year, the number of clients served, what partnerships exist, data or metrics

702
01:10:12,090 --> 01:10:15,050
collected and how often, and then lessons learned.

703
01:10:17,290 --> 01:10:21,170
So those are some of the items that we've overviewed.

704
01:10:21,170 --> 01:10:29,530
I did want to let you know that I have talked to local governments in, down in Olympia and

705
01:10:29,530 --> 01:10:38,470
Lacy, Dirston County in that area, the city of Tomwater, that have provided draft agreements

706
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:46,350
that they have with their, the, I'm sorry, the third one now, the senior services for

707
01:10:46,350 --> 01:10:54,410
South Sound. So if you need an example of remits or anything to look at, reached out to, you know, similar city government agencies as well.

708
01:10:54,810 --> 01:10:58,550
So I think I've talked too much for my presentation. I'm here for questions.

709
01:10:59,870 --> 01:11:08,290
Are you going to put this information like these, what you gave us really available on the website for those that might have issues or concerns. Absolutely.

710
01:11:10,330 --> 01:11:11,450
Questions from council.

711
01:11:13,190 --> 01:11:18,450
Thank you. I appreciate the new information. You've got a lot more information than I did.

712
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:21,510
Thank you.

713
01:11:25,740 --> 01:11:33,100
You know, unfortunately, I got this late just after finishing work, so I haven't had a chance to go through it. A couple items that are

714
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:40,840
many cities that are even remotely similar in size to what we are in the swim that you were able to get their data from.

715
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:54,680
I know that they're providing services in like Mason County, and so the safe shelter is like a partner agency. So I'm seeing more of four cities of our size or even cities of larger sizes.

716
01:11:55,600 --> 01:12:07,980
Like I mentioned that other agreement like Lacey Tom water, the city of Olympia and the county are going together. And to me, like in my research, I think it makes more sense to like if I'm giving you my opinion on this.

717
01:12:07,980 --> 01:12:14,780
It makes more sense to go about it because with those other cities in mind, if you were

718
01:12:14,780 --> 01:12:19,620
going that direction, especially if you were using a program of silverness, because you're

719
01:12:19,620 --> 01:12:25,800
creating a platform for collecting that information and you're able to reach out to people that

720
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:30,440
are not just in your community, you can reach beyond into the county, into the other cities.

721
01:12:30,820 --> 01:12:32,880
So that might be one thing to consider.

722
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:40,800
But yeah, you know what the areas that jumped out off the page, market driven and poor profit.

723
01:12:41,340 --> 01:12:43,940
Now, I'm a capitalist, I'm all about that.

724
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,700
But the balance, who shall lose the cost?

725
01:12:48,260 --> 01:12:53,680
There's been a reference of $1,000, $2,000, and then most importantly, the liability.

726
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,880
So I'll answer the first question.

727
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:03,520
And so if you were doing just the simple silver nest is in your area in the city is not involved

728
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:10,640
and you're just a private person searching for a roommate, then you pay, I believe it's

729
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,880
like $29.99 as the seeker.

730
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:20,200
And then the home provider would pay like $49.99 for a 60-day period where they would be actively

731
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,680
searching for someone to live in their house.

732
01:13:23,140 --> 01:13:25,700
And that's time starts when they start searching.

733
01:13:25,700 --> 01:13:29,840
So they could pay it now and then if they can start searching for like 30 days or more,

734
01:13:30,140 --> 01:13:37,820
that is when the clock would tick start ticking. And the liability that goes along with that is

735
01:13:38,500 --> 01:13:45,500
so there's an insurance writer that the like if it's silverness they work with the two to make

736
01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:49,800
sure that their agreement is that they both agree on the agreement. And then they also have

737
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:54,940
insurance that goes over the top that homeowners insurance for that renter. For

738
01:13:54,940 --> 01:13:59,280
Or other agencies, I would say that that's probably part of what you're looking at,

739
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:04,940
like when you're working for a nonprofit, and you're not including, like, silver nest

740
01:14:04,940 --> 01:14:05,360
in that.

741
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:12,920
That's something you would need to look at is, you know, how would you mediate?

742
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:18,740
How would you write that agreement to make sure that if the one party is not happy

743
01:14:18,740 --> 01:14:22,100
with the situation, then you can leave that agreement, things like that.

744
01:14:22,100 --> 01:14:37,540
But they have looked at that so I'm sure we can get examples of like if you were choosing not to go with the the company silver nest or something like that that we could find that answer by asking others for what they've done and learning a little bit more about that too.

745
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,400
And then was your third question.

746
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,300
The third was and it was brought up in public comment.

747
01:14:45,140 --> 01:14:59,900
What if it doesn't work out? And how do we get them out? I know personally, in the guise of COVID, I had one tenant that, because she didn't have to be right, chose not to apply.

748
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,260
The Heifer Cares Act received funds three months after they were applied.

749
01:15:04,900 --> 01:15:07,480
Then the early eviction, it came in three and a half months later.

750
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:12,760
For those that are not in a position to either not have a mortgage or pay the mortgage fees,

751
01:15:12,860 --> 01:15:14,820
there's a reason we have these investment properties.

752
01:15:15,780 --> 01:15:20,700
They're not holding the wall. The challenge that I'm always concerned with is the liability.

753
01:15:21,740 --> 01:15:26,980
We live in a community which is predominantly, it's changing, but our average age is 58 years old,

754
01:15:26,980 --> 01:15:33,280
many of us were retired. My moral compass that I was raised with, we take care of the

755
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:41,540
widow and the children. And in my public engagement, the amount of elder abuse in our little town

756
01:15:41,540 --> 01:15:47,440
is astounding. And it comes on many, many different levels from internet, communication,

757
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:54,600
relationships, etc. To caregivers, to family members, etc. That's my biggest concern. I believe

758
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,940
the selected officials, it's part of the responsibility to look at the most vulnerable, and how can

759
01:15:59,940 --> 01:16:07,160
we be open to addressing the need, we all agree we have an issue with illness, and physical rent on

760
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:14,540
the space to put a roof over your head. But I feel we really have to be moving very cautiously

761
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:20,420
at looking at alternatives that are not going to put those very vulnerable individuals at risk.

762
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:28,140
Yeah, I talked to a few different agencies. One of them, I mentioned earlier, was the,

763
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:36,300
like Brandon mentioned, we'll put this information out for you all so you can see. But the senior

764
01:16:36,300 --> 01:16:42,560
services for South Sound, I talked to two of their case providers, and they don't use

765
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:48,120
silverness. They do this through, they provide a case management, they work through the

766
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:52,680
senior center that they provide senior services with and so that's another whom

767
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:58,640
sharing is another element that they provide and so even talking with

768
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:03,480
wilderness but with these groups with these people specifically I've heard

769
01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:09,160
a number of times that it isn't you don't want to fastly match someone you

770
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:14,260
take time to build they build their profile you learn who they are you

771
01:17:14,260 --> 01:17:18,020
meet with them and you talk to them and this is if you're providing that

772
01:17:18,020 --> 01:17:23,980
extra element of a social services wrap around for, you know, for seniors or

773
01:17:23,980 --> 01:17:29,360
something like that. But you take the time to build that and understand that

774
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:34,020
relationship and you're the provider or if you're the case manager so that you

775
01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:36,980
understand when you're connecting people that you're hoping that you're

776
01:17:36,980 --> 01:17:42,220
getting a better match. And when I talked to Silver and as they said that

777
01:17:42,220 --> 01:17:46,500
they do spend quite a few hours meeting with them as well because they

778
01:17:46,500 --> 01:17:51,260
don't want that to happen. I would think that you would get, you know, if you're doing that

779
01:17:51,260 --> 01:17:58,680
individually and you're meeting with people, of course, the service that's provided in Lacey

780
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:04,820
and Tomwater in that area is a little bit more wraparound. And I believe the program,

781
01:18:05,100 --> 01:18:10,720
it's currently being developed with the Olympic area, or I'm sorry, the Olympic area on aging.

782
01:18:11,540 --> 01:18:15,360
They're looking at what that looks like for them too. So they were talking about,

783
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:27,020
You know, for that first year for the four counties, they want 20 providers and like 100 and some seekers, you know, just to make sure that they're getting it right.

784
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:40,140
So they want to slow move into that realm. And they're talking about a pilot program to do so. And then when you're talking about, you know, the agreements, I can't say what they would do.

785
01:18:40,140 --> 01:18:45,240
COVID, you know, it's a pandemic in a different situation and we have a lot of different rules

786
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:50,600
at that point in time. But if you're writing that into the agreement too, I think that that's

787
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:55,760
something that they should take in mind. And yeah, I can't make you feel confident about that part

788
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,200
of it because I'm not an attorney and I don't know exactly the law on that part too, but I could

789
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:06,460
do a little more research. One of the podcasts I was listening to was, there was a gentleman

790
01:19:06,460 --> 01:19:09,540
one that asked a question in the Q and A with silverness,

791
01:19:09,620 --> 01:19:15,160
as they were talking about, that issue of COVID and the rent.

792
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,120
And can you kick someone out of your house?

793
01:19:18,460 --> 01:19:20,300
And at that point, what their answer was

794
01:19:20,300 --> 01:19:21,860
is that they had to work through it,

795
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,640
and it didn't sound like that particular moment was

796
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,760
a really easy one to work through that issue.

797
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:29,700
Thank you.

798
01:19:29,940 --> 01:19:30,360
You're welcome.

799
01:19:33,230 --> 01:19:33,670
Thank you.

800
01:19:33,810 --> 01:19:33,970
Sure.

801
01:19:34,190 --> 01:19:34,930
That's really helpful.

802
01:19:35,550 --> 01:19:36,810
And I just want to remind you,

803
01:19:36,810 --> 01:19:42,810
because I heard some misunderstanding in the public comments that the goal of this is really

804
01:19:42,810 --> 01:19:48,870
to stop more homelessness from happening. So we're trying to get upstream the people who are at risk

805
01:19:48,870 --> 01:19:54,310
of losing their home. So, you know, I know we talked about other views that we're talking about

806
01:19:54,310 --> 01:19:59,110
women whose husbands pass away and they'll have social security to social security checks

807
01:19:59,110 --> 01:20:04,930
coming in and maybe they can't make their tax payments and, you know, those kind of people

808
01:20:04,930 --> 01:20:08,030
What is silver and what do you put hell in my mind?

809
01:20:08,210 --> 01:20:09,930
Oh, that was, that was funny.

810
01:20:10,190 --> 01:20:11,910
And, you know, silver and us being,

811
01:20:12,050 --> 01:20:13,350
I know I keep talking about them,

812
01:20:13,370 --> 01:20:14,830
but they're a big company and they've been providing

813
01:20:14,830 --> 01:20:17,730
the service when I was talking with a representative.

814
01:20:18,490 --> 01:20:22,110
The median or the average person that they're serving

815
01:20:22,110 --> 01:20:23,690
is a 67 year old woman.

816
01:20:24,390 --> 01:20:27,670
And a lot of women, they said that, you know,

817
01:20:27,750 --> 01:20:30,010
maybe they've lost a spouse or they're single

818
01:20:30,010 --> 01:20:33,870
and they're looking for someone to run out of room

819
01:20:33,870 --> 01:20:42,650
have a roommate, things like that. And so that was interesting data to hear. But I can provide

820
01:20:42,650 --> 01:20:48,190
some more information from them too if you'd like. She provided a PowerPoint presentation to me

821
01:20:48,190 --> 01:20:51,790
and kind of went through it. And I can share some of that information if you're interested in

822
01:20:51,790 --> 01:20:58,350
learning more about that too. But again, Olympia area, I'm sorry, Olympic area on aging, if I'd

823
01:20:58,350 --> 01:21:03,150
said that correctly. They are piloting with Silverness, so we might be able to even talk

824
01:21:03,150 --> 01:21:09,470
with them more and more about their progress. The Olympic Area Agents and Agents. That's it.

825
01:21:10,770 --> 01:21:15,510
I'm really interested in learning more about what they're doing. You know, they're here local already

826
01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:21,090
and I don't know, maybe the screen, helping housing, collaborativeness and working with them.

827
01:21:22,430 --> 01:21:23,870
But they want to hear. See you in a moment.

828
01:21:27,180 --> 01:21:34,550
Do you want Andrew to speak to that or

829
01:21:39,030 --> 01:21:40,070
I just

830
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:51,230
want to make sure that we talked about this is the third time we talked about this

831
01:21:51,230 --> 01:21:51,770
on council.

832
01:21:52,090 --> 01:21:55,810
I'm not sure where these ideas are coming from that the city is going to buy property

833
01:21:55,810 --> 01:21:57,070
for homeless people.

834
01:21:57,170 --> 01:21:58,650
We've never even discussed it.

835
01:21:59,170 --> 01:22:03,430
The home sharing is not for addicts or homeless people.

836
01:22:03,730 --> 01:22:08,630
It is for people that have been screened, both the person providing the home and

837
01:22:08,630 --> 01:22:14,690
person that needs a room to be screened first. The city would not have any liability. We're just

838
01:22:14,690 --> 01:22:24,310
interested in getting somebody to offer this in our area. Thank you. And you can, I mean, for like

839
01:22:24,310 --> 01:22:29,870
youth homeless services like the McKinney-Vento programs and things like that, like the program

840
01:22:29,870 --> 01:22:37,790
in Mason County program in Seattle and program in the Lacy area to help with homeless youth

841
01:22:37,790 --> 01:22:43,530
or youth at risk of being homeless. So the couch surfers that we have in our community,

842
01:22:44,130 --> 01:22:49,290
the kids that you're not really sure where they're sleeping, there are programs that are out there

843
01:22:49,290 --> 01:22:53,870
that do provide that wraparound service and I mentioned associated ministries at the beginning

844
01:22:53,870 --> 01:23:00,110
and they have a program that started in 2013. The counties and other agencies approached

845
01:23:00,110 --> 01:23:04,470
them because they had you've been doing the adult home sharing for so long and they

846
01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:15,810
I mean, they have like a $250,000 budget and they have a number of agencies providing, you know, sort of, you know, funding, so some funding, some donations, some brands that they're writing.

847
01:23:16,450 --> 01:23:27,630
And then the home provider gets a stipend every month of like $550 somewhere in there for helping provide that service. So there are those kinds of services do go deeper.

848
01:23:27,630 --> 01:23:33,610
And it's a little bit more of, you know, you probably want more agencies involved if you

849
01:23:33,610 --> 01:23:37,510
were doing something like that to make sure that you're providing that record on service

850
01:23:37,510 --> 01:23:38,070
correctly.

851
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:49,540
I think the DCYF and the CPS or the Associated Ministries and the homeless people.

852
01:23:51,380 --> 01:23:59,360
So Associated Ministries in Tacoma, they have about 25 or 30 partner agencies that

853
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:05,240
mentioned, so I don't know all of them they could be. I guess that they're working with the

854
01:24:06,700 --> 01:24:14,600
DCYS and the state and also probably the school district there, I can confirm,

855
01:24:14,980 --> 01:24:19,460
I just need to look at them, you know, look them up again and ask them some more questions about

856
01:24:19,460 --> 01:24:27,500
it. But yeah, they said that they are, they were never really well within the city of Tacoma

857
01:24:27,500 --> 01:24:35,140
and all of the social services agencies that they have there, especially in 1991, which is that early year to know it.

858
01:24:36,340 --> 01:24:36,940
So.

859
01:24:40,500 --> 01:24:42,320
You have any comments, Councillor Anderson?

860
01:24:43,420 --> 01:24:49,040
I do. Thank you so much. So let's try and remember all of them.

861
01:24:50,960 --> 01:25:02,640
Okay, so one, I'll call it the meanwhile easy plan could be the silver nest, because anybody

862
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,320
can participate in that.

863
01:25:04,540 --> 01:25:11,320
And I would also hope that we could reach out to, you know, Clalem County, maybe even

864
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:16,500
Jefferson County and like Port Townsend and Chimacum, I'd want to reach out to all

865
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:24,240
all the way out to forks PA and just reach out and let everybody know that they can participate in that.

866
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:26,540
So that was my first comment.

867
01:25:27,180 --> 01:25:30,420
My second comment was that

868
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:57,140
If we decided to do some sort of nonprofit program or partner for like some kind of nonprofit program, I would really hope that we could partner with like the senior center or partner with a DSHS or DCYF or maybe even the library.

869
01:25:57,140 --> 01:26:07,380
Like if somebody goes to the library and needs some kind of service or anything like that, you know, in a perfect world, we could all work together and find a match for everybody.

870
01:26:07,380 --> 01:26:13,080
But I do know that all staff everywhere is stretched very thin.

871
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:24,400
So I guess it's just kind of an overarching comment. And then if we ended up doing like a youth home sharing program.

872
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:41,900
I assume that the programs, I didn't get a chance to read too much about the report that you had printed out for us, Rhys, but I would assume that there is some kind of like certifiable kind of like if you're a foster parent, right, you need to be certified to do that.

873
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:49,840
And so I would hope that the youth home sharing would have an equivalent, at least, to be able to participate in that.

874
01:26:51,380 --> 01:26:51,900
And

875
01:26:54,240 --> 01:27:12,120
I think, I think those are all my comments for now. I really appreciate all of the research. I was really excited to see all of the information that you could find. And I think it was such a great idea to reach out to other agencies and see, especially lessons learned.

876
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,340
I think is really one of the most important parts.

877
01:27:15,940 --> 01:27:22,040
Just because, you know, we can learn from everybody's mistakes or if they can do it over how can we do it differently.

878
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,800
And I'm really interested in the silver nest idea.

879
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:28,760
Oh, I'm sorry.

880
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:29,720
I didn't comment.

881
01:27:30,500 --> 01:27:34,320
I would say that when, as like a general overview,

882
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:35,780
when I was reading through it,

883
01:27:35,820 --> 01:27:41,500
I kind of saw silver nest as like a kind of like mid

884
01:27:41,500 --> 01:27:46,180
to like, I don't know, mid management type income

885
01:27:46,180 --> 01:27:50,800
or like relatively teacher income or nursing income,

886
01:27:51,220 --> 01:27:55,140
those kinds of incomes would maybe use silver nest,

887
01:27:55,140 --> 01:28:05,980
but for people on a fixed income or are extremely low income, then a non-profit route may work a

888
01:28:05,980 --> 01:28:13,580
little bit, might be more financially stable for them. But at the same time, the price for the

889
01:28:13,580 --> 01:28:22,240
silver nest seemed pretty affordable if you're looking for a roommate. And yeah, yeah, that's

890
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,420
All my comments. Thank you. Thank you.

891
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:38,580
I responded to that a little bit. So they were giving you kind of a median price point of what they were doing there. And then I mentioned that there were for profit, but I do recall she mentioned that they're playing for like a socially conscious.

892
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:47,440
designation for, I guess, the core or something like that, but it's a socially conscious effort.

893
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:55,460
And then most recently, Solverness has been working with AmeriCorps to place AmeriCorps

894
01:28:56,660 --> 01:28:58,280
in Washington state.

895
01:28:58,440 --> 01:29:01,580
So there's a program going on right now that you can look up for them.

896
01:29:03,020 --> 01:29:06,160
They also work with the state of Oregon and their housing program.

897
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,180
and I can't remember the name of it right now,

898
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,180
but that's another agency.

899
01:29:11,540 --> 01:29:14,020
So they are a little bit more socially conscious

900
01:29:14,020 --> 01:29:15,300
than I had mentioned before.

901
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:21,240
So I think you're probably spot on

902
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,100
if there are more wraparound services needed,

903
01:29:24,220 --> 01:29:26,580
but I think you could also work through them

904
01:29:26,580 --> 01:29:27,580
because you're providing,

905
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:29,960
when you're looking at an agreement

906
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:31,700
and you're trying to set up an agreement,

907
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,180
then you wanna take into account

908
01:29:34,180 --> 01:29:41,860
that you could help provide some type of chore or service and reduced rent. There's a she had mentioned

909
01:29:42,660 --> 01:29:51,260
that they do try to work with the provider and the seeker to provide a rent that will work for

910
01:29:51,260 --> 01:29:59,840
individuals. And so yeah, I'll stop it. Thank you. And I was interested in

911
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,600
They also have connections and they can help people set up for home and community services,

912
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:12,040
for volunteer support services, they have shield of volunteers, they can help them with Medicare,

913
01:30:12,780 --> 01:30:18,580
and so it's a great connection for others who are struggling to also seek other services

914
01:30:18,580 --> 01:30:19,360
that are available.

915
01:30:22,450 --> 01:30:26,070
I will ask more questions about other programs, but yeah, I think that's

916
01:30:26,070 --> 01:30:32,170
just, I think they were looking at some more programs to that hit the program in the

917
01:30:32,170 --> 01:30:36,870
Uh, yeah. Yes, I agree. Look at that.

918
01:30:38,540 --> 01:30:40,640
Any other questions, comments from council.

919
01:30:42,990 --> 01:30:44,030
Okay, one comment.

920
01:30:44,750 --> 01:30:47,970
It would, in reality, it'd be much nicer to.

921
01:30:48,410 --> 01:30:51,570
To get a nonprofit to do this is that it would go.

922
01:30:56,110 --> 01:30:57,870
And so, um,

923
01:31:01,490 --> 01:31:08,230
looking at Silverness, like I said, they're socially conscious and they work with the nonprofit agencies. So, like, if you.

924
01:31:09,650 --> 01:31:16,950
One way you could do that is to let the nonprofit agencies know that you are looking for a home

925
01:31:16,950 --> 01:31:21,710
share program, and then they could figure out the way that they wanted to provide it, similar

926
01:31:21,710 --> 01:31:22,870
to SHHC.

927
01:31:23,170 --> 01:31:26,870
Like we told them what we needed, and they came up with the way that they were going

928
01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:27,450
to do that.

929
01:31:28,090 --> 01:31:32,970
So, one way that that nonprofit agency might go about that is to partner and whistle

930
01:31:32,970 --> 01:31:40,490
and us to provide the services that are harder to put together, like the intake, the tracking,

931
01:31:40,810 --> 01:31:47,010
the data, all that stuff would be taken care of if they work with them, or, again, you can

932
01:31:47,010 --> 01:31:52,650
recreate that if you want, but it's another option. So they were working directly with

933
01:31:53,310 --> 01:32:00,190
that nonprofit, not the city government. So does that make sense?

934
01:32:00,190 --> 01:32:01,250
Do

935
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,600
you need more guidance from Council on moving forward?

936
01:32:07,820 --> 01:32:08,400
Yes, please.

937
01:32:11,480 --> 01:32:12,860
Comments on that? Council?

938
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:18,500
Staff, continue research.

939
01:32:20,990 --> 01:32:27,570
I'm interested in hearing more from the Olympic Area Agents 0 and 18, and I don't know if this has been collaborative.

940
01:32:28,770 --> 01:32:34,570
I want to chime in too, and it's an organization we help fund.

941
01:32:34,570 --> 01:32:40,430
And I could look at a lot more of the local agencies and what they provide.

942
01:32:40,710 --> 01:32:53,370
I talked to Marin Packer over at the school district and I've talked to, or I'm a call in to some others in the community to provide the social services thing that they work with SHHC too.

943
01:32:53,490 --> 01:32:54,390
So I'll be happy to do that.

944
01:32:56,480 --> 01:32:56,920
Okay.

945
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:03,740
Sure. Yeah, and bring that back like once I talk to the local agencies and let you know what they say.

946
01:33:03,740 --> 01:33:08,100
Is there anything else you want me to follow up on from all of them?

947
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:16,300
If you have questions, like, you know, after taking a look at that in more detail again, we'll put it up on the website so people can see that.

948
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:27,640
And then if you have more questions, or if I get more information from those other agencies that I've been waiting to hear from, we'll continue to share that and update that stack of that spreadsheet and put it up on the website.

949
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:33,200
So everyone here can see the research too. And yeah, we'll go from there.

950
01:33:35,500 --> 01:33:36,520
Thank you. Thanks.

951
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:41,660
Thank you.

952
01:33:42,540 --> 01:33:46,020
We have a few items here tonight on your city manager. So I apologize.

953
01:33:46,020 --> 01:33:51,320
Guys, this item was asked for as well by Council for,

954
01:33:51,380 --> 01:33:57,640
so we have to articulate in a clearer fashion

955
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:00,820
how we're trying to move from point A to point B

956
01:34:00,820 --> 01:34:03,940
relative to moving from single family only

957
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,280
to multi-flex here.

958
01:34:06,460 --> 01:34:09,960
Some of that comments most every time with me

959
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:12,020
in the comments section.

960
01:34:12,740 --> 01:34:13,820
And so I just don't,

961
01:34:13,820 --> 01:34:18,540
We wanted to articulate the process of tasks and timelines to get there,

962
01:34:19,020 --> 01:34:26,100
and tonight our Director of Community Development Department will present that.

963
01:34:28,590 --> 01:34:33,550
Council members, State Lochnecht Community Development Director.

964
01:34:35,010 --> 01:34:40,250
In April, the council adopted a conference of plan amendment which opened the door for

965
01:34:40,250 --> 01:34:43,330
or duplex, triplex, quadruplex,

966
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:46,640
oh, no, I'm sorry.

967
01:34:47,540 --> 01:34:49,940
Okay, well, we've heard the introduction.

968
01:34:51,620 --> 01:34:53,720
So I put a timeline together.

969
01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:57,760
I said, I would suggest that the last council meeting

970
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:58,500
and here it is.

971
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,620
I did add something in though, an optional suggestion

972
01:35:02,620 --> 01:35:06,160
and that is, you know, some of the members here

973
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,200
are newer than this issue

974
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:09,920
and some in myself I'm new.

975
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:18,100
So it might be helpful to have a very informal discussion before we go into the actual drafting of it and adoption of an ordinance.

976
01:35:19,060 --> 01:35:31,960
And so I've suggested perhaps on June 27, as soon as June 27 that the council, I could present some general options to you not a full blown ordinance but just sort of point out like what some of the options could be.

977
01:35:32,060 --> 01:35:33,240
Now there's two parts to this.

978
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:45,700
The way it was adopted in the comprehensive plan, it allows for these units, but also allows for a conditional use permit process. And so we have to adopt both design standards perhaps for these units.

979
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:59,000
And there could be degrees of design standards, so to say. And then there's also a administrative conditional use permit process which has been at least a first draft was done by our former director.

980
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:03,080
And that's something I'd like to have you consider also before I go forward with that.

981
01:36:03,220 --> 01:36:13,420
The next step then would be to take this same to finish drafting the ordinance based on the comments from the council and take it through the process of adoption.

982
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:17,500
So the first reading with the planning commission that could be as soon as July 19.

983
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:22,160
A second public hearing for adoption with the planning commission.

984
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:36,480
And then after the planning commission's actions, we would take it to the council first reading, second reading and finally adoption concurrent with that process. We would have to put it through the CEPA process, the state environmental policy act process.

985
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:44,220
And also the Department of Commerce has a review process. Those can look concurrently and be well within the same timelines as we have here.

986
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,840
That's the process going forward. If there's any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

987
01:36:52,230 --> 01:36:55,030
He's trying to bring up that email that you had sent us.

988
01:36:55,370 --> 01:36:58,890
While he's doing that, is there any comments, questions from Council?

989
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:10,360
Thank you, Steve. I feel like some of us were on the planning commission before we were on Council, and we've been waiting for this moment for a long time.

990
01:37:10,740 --> 01:37:14,660
And I appreciate all your hard work, especially since you just got the job.

991
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:16,760
Thank you.

992
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:23,240
Just one other piece of information that you can put on the website for people to screen.

993
01:37:25,180 --> 01:37:37,880
I think that's the point is that so many people they know we've initiated this but they don't know how long it takes or estimate that and the steps and so that's what we're trying to do here.

994
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:44,540
if you have any other ways of presenting this or articulating this, of course, be very open

995
01:37:44,540 --> 01:37:51,370
at staff, but appreciate students that are trying to document that process.

996
01:37:55,030 --> 01:37:55,750
Any other

997
01:37:55,750 --> 01:38:01,690
comments, questions from council? So we're talking about a work session at five o'clock

998
01:38:01,690 --> 01:38:12,210
at our next meeting. It could be a regular agenda. I'm sorry. It could be a regular

999
01:38:12,210 --> 01:38:16,570
It doesn't have to be a long session. I don't think it's that complicated.

1000
01:38:16,850 --> 01:38:19,670
I just wanted to get your input first before I took an ordinance forward.

1001
01:38:20,590 --> 01:38:24,550
Do you need director and council moving forward on anything as well as.

1002
01:38:25,070 --> 01:38:31,170
Like I said, the idea of having it come to council first for a discussion was an option. It's certainly not required.

1003
01:38:31,670 --> 01:38:37,990
But I thought it would be up to you if you'd like to have an opportunity or if you wanted to go ahead and push an ordinance out to the planning commission.

1004
01:38:38,610 --> 01:38:42,150
I would like just to get the process started by

1005
01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:55,530
having the council which one I'll go ahead, bring it to the planning commission. Yeah, I mean that started.

1006
01:38:56,290 --> 01:38:56,850
Okay.

1007
01:38:59,410 --> 01:39:00,130
Councilor Anderson.

1008
01:39:01,650 --> 01:39:02,770
Yes, thank you.

1009
01:39:04,010 --> 01:39:04,530
Very good.

1010
01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:05,970
Thank you.

1011
01:39:10,290 --> 01:39:10,850
So

1012
01:39:13,090 --> 01:39:20,770
I don't see several levels here and I'm happy to report some wins and some real positive

1013
01:39:20,770 --> 01:39:23,090
things around the city will move quickly through them.

1014
01:39:23,670 --> 01:39:28,330
The first one is a report from Sherry Crane, who is of course our place chief and Dennis

1015
01:39:28,330 --> 01:39:35,650
Burnett who is the latest emergency manager and added to our staff regarding today's mock

1016
01:39:35,650 --> 01:39:43,450
Cascadia emergency exercise and so city staff spend the day working through a very complex

1017
01:39:43,450 --> 01:39:52,530
and very real scenario to prepare ourselves in our city with District 3 for a serious

1018
01:39:53,780 --> 01:39:54,200
earthquake.

1019
01:39:54,540 --> 01:39:57,900
So at least Sherry she did a great job of leading that exercise.

1020
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:03,260
Yes, so two weeks ago you guys got the presentation of what to expect if the big one were to

1021
01:40:03,260 --> 01:40:03,500
come.

1022
01:40:03,500 --> 01:40:11,600
So this week is a series of tabletop and exercise events that State of Washington, probably Oregon, right?

1023
01:40:11,900 --> 01:40:20,960
It's at the national, I mean, you've got FEMA, federal government, military, State of Washington, their emergency management crew, WOSDOT, and a bunch of other agencies.

1024
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:26,760
So Linwell Swim just wanted to take care of our business to make sure that we're meeting our responsibilities.

1025
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:41,920
So we've been partnering as you know with fire district three and taking care of the swim operational area city of swim obviously has a great deal of the resources so people are going to come to swim and eating medical food, any number of things so

1026
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:55,840
So, today's exercise was to accomplish a budget goals. So, heavy lift with the first one was to make sure that our city staff kind of know how to function in that decision making process, you know how do you handle all of those things that need to get done.

1027
01:40:56,120 --> 01:41:00,320
So we had 29 city staff members there today working through the exercise.

1028
01:41:01,180 --> 01:41:20,980
We started at nine o'clock and went to three PM. We had seven fire district full-time staff, fire district three. We had a couple of facilitators and evaluators that were volunteer folks that were employed by anybody to just for the goodness of the heart and based on their expertise we're able to come in and assist us with our event today.

1029
01:41:20,980 --> 01:41:31,280
We also had a bunch of other volunteer citizen community members, whether they were areas members, which is the amateur radio folks.

1030
01:41:31,660 --> 01:41:43,200
We have some assert folks, which is the emergency response team folks community or emergency response team folks that are seated throughout how county remain and be a member in the audience.

1031
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:45,440
No, they usually raise their hand pretty quick.

1032
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:55,540
I am in two years and I've been going for administration role for either the county or the emergency response.

1033
01:41:55,860 --> 01:41:56,080
Okay.

1034
01:41:56,300 --> 01:41:58,800
I was a wildland firefighter for 10 years.

1035
01:42:00,740 --> 01:42:14,000
So as most of you know serve as that program that you're right you're really nesting community involvement for people to take care of their own neighborhood. And then of course, some folks commit to even going broader and they start

1036
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:17,460
to reach out, and they're helping their, you know, they just brought in, brought in, brought in.

1037
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:28,360
But they do provide a level of contact and first response, first aid communication pathways that

1038
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:33,960
wouldn't exist if you didn't have three or 400 people in the community able to perform those

1039
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:39,920
functions. So we did quite a bit with communications, obviously, but we also worked on

1040
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:44,720
on some very specific goals for this week,

1041
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:45,640
which is mass care.

1042
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:48,080
We focused a lot on what it would take

1043
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:49,600
to ramp up a shelter.

1044
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:52,960
So tomorrow we actually have a shelter demonstration

1045
01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:55,780
happening at the Trinity United Methodist Church.

1046
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,880
So that's a fantastic operation happening

1047
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:02,880
with fires to free the church and American Red Cross.

1048
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:05,360
So the local Red Cross folks are gonna be there as well.

1049
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:17,160
We also worked on mass transfer and your transportation issues. You're going to have an earthquake and a bunch of broken bridges. You're going to have liquid faction, which is going to create our problems with your roadways.

1050
01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:31,760
You need to have some debris management plan in order, and you need to have a plan for how to get those bridges in the roads up and running, or at least identify and try to access resources to help fix those issues.

1051
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:38,660
So we had a fairly focused event that we wanted to deal with today, and those happened to be wheel houses

1052
01:43:38,660 --> 01:43:45,060
So our public works crew had a big crew in there our planning group DCD director Steve

1053
01:43:45,900 --> 01:43:52,640
planning crew out there in force real tangible things that our city staff could dig their teeth into and

1054
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:57,080
We'll be building on those efforts today moving forward

1055
01:43:57,080 --> 01:44:02,420
So we're also going to be doing some stuff later on the week with with food, right?

1056
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:04,920
That's kind of a good deal. We don't like some.

1057
01:44:05,620 --> 01:44:11,280
So we thank Andrew for taking a lead in assisting us with some food distribution conversations that we're having.

1058
01:44:12,440 --> 01:44:16,700
So that in a nutshell is kind of what happened today, but I would like to bring Dennis up.

1059
01:44:16,700 --> 01:44:25,420
The, the city has had a part time FTE on the books for a couple of years now for a emergency management coordinator to assist me with what I can do.

1060
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:42,280
And we have recently brought Dennis on to assist us and he slid right in his exercise was ramping up here. So, maybe if you want to come up and say a few words about your background and have any comments from today, he was able to observe the entire bed.

1061
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:51,560
So anyway, Dennis, appreciate the opportunity. Dennis Burnett's name, retired in 2007,

1062
01:44:52,480 --> 01:44:57,280
after 35 years of national tortures, 13 different parks nationwide, Coast to Coast.

1063
01:44:57,920 --> 01:44:59,920
I retired as a deputy chief in D.C.

1064
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:09,860
For law enforcement, SAR, EMS, all those sorts of fun things. And it was very impressive to see the actions going on today.

1065
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:19,360
My last real big assignment was on the oil spill in 2010. At least at that time certified as a type 2 planning section chief.

1066
01:45:20,140 --> 01:45:26,280
And so at least I could spell ICS. And that's a big step forward with all the forms they use.

1067
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:28,300
You know, it's coming from the federal government,

1068
01:45:28,540 --> 01:45:30,000
it's going to be fairly close.

1069
01:45:31,300 --> 01:45:34,540
But the space that this area is in right now,

1070
01:45:34,860 --> 01:45:37,600
compared to my experience over those 35 years,

1071
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,600
with the emergency operations was very, very impressed.

1072
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,000
The cohesion of the groups that got together

1073
01:45:44,510 --> 01:45:45,760
were quite well together,

1074
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:46,880
and they knew what they were doing.

1075
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:50,000
And you can see the learning curve as the day went on,

1076
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:51,580
even though it was still a short day.

1077
01:45:52,460 --> 01:45:54,640
Looking forward to the work, it is part time.

1078
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:58,620
15 years of retirement is good, so we'll see how this goes.

1079
01:45:59,480 --> 01:45:59,880
Thanks.

1080
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:06,040
Just answer their comments. So I had a chance to vote.

1081
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:10,760
You have some more to say. No, no, no, just any questions. I'm here for that too.

1082
01:46:12,380 --> 01:46:38,080
So I think that was there of course all day with the exercise as well and just talked to people in the county and the state and I want you to know all of them were said swim is way ahead of any other agencies most counties in the state believe I was just shaking my head they were just so impressed and so it certainly as a new member of this community leadership team.

1083
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:45,900
You know, very grateful. I wanted you to know what you have here at the city operation. So it was very impressive.

1084
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:56,880
And the exercise goes on for another four days. This was a statewide exercise. Many of them, most of the state did not do the practical full-blown exercise.

1085
01:46:56,880 --> 01:47:02,560
like we did they was mostly just informative and they sat up computers and talked but they did actually

1086
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:08,800
engage or open up their ELC's and fully staff them like we did so.

1087
01:47:17,850 --> 01:47:25,390
Well she uh well she steps away from putting my another win for the city for their council

1088
01:47:25,390 --> 01:47:32,910
it is this month's we have a new police officer starting that makes us fully staffed.

1089
01:47:32,930 --> 01:47:38,450
That's what we saw, you know, there's a lot of the municipalities very close to us that are

1090
01:47:38,450 --> 01:47:44,890
registered and I think that speaks to our police leadership. And so thank you for that.

1091
01:47:45,350 --> 01:47:50,410
I'm the next time and I'm sorry for the time here, but this is hopefully all videos.

1092
01:47:50,910 --> 01:47:56,050
I'd like to invite Ty Brown to the microphone. As you know, he's the

1093
01:47:56,050 --> 01:48:00,730
operations manager for Public Works and he has a very, I think a very distinct

1094
01:48:00,730 --> 01:48:03,110
the information that you wanted to share with the council.

1095
01:48:04,650 --> 01:48:05,510
Just a moment.

1096
01:48:11,130 --> 01:48:11,570
So

1097
01:48:14,990 --> 01:48:17,850
I'm going to illuminate that sucker so you can see it.

1098
01:48:19,030 --> 01:48:28,010
I guess I'm tied around on the operations manager for the city's when council thank you for having me here. Mr. Hewis asked me to talk quickly about a nice when that we had.

1099
01:48:28,530 --> 01:48:29,990
So it won't be brief.

1100
01:48:30,570 --> 01:48:31,270
It's kind of my style.

1101
01:48:31,830 --> 01:48:35,870
The last six years we've been applying for the tree city award to be a tree city.

1102
01:48:36,590 --> 01:48:41,110
So this year we received our six annual tree city award, which is.

1103
01:48:41,110 --> 01:48:53,250
It's a pretty cool thing, you know, it just basically shows that we care we value and we, you know, we basically take really good care of our street trees, you know, and our growth of carry hopes that we have.

1104
01:48:53,250 --> 01:48:57,190
There's a lot of crime in our street trees that we do have.

1105
01:48:59,350 --> 01:49:01,350
Time and effort and taking care of it.

1106
01:49:02,050 --> 01:49:10,170
I just got a few quick things of what that tree city award, you know, what it takes to get there, right? So,

1107
01:49:11,990 --> 01:49:15,550
basically, one of the first things to qualify for having a,

1108
01:49:18,130 --> 01:49:30,610
One of the first things it takes is we have to have a parks board or a tree board and our parks board qualifies as a tree board for that, which we do balance things off of, you know, Tom's part of the parks board.

1109
01:49:31,210 --> 01:49:33,530
Anyway, he's a big part of all of that stuff.

1110
01:49:33,530 --> 01:49:38,350
So the next thing we have to do is have a tree, a tree ordinance. Like I said,

1111
01:49:38,450 --> 01:49:40,350
it shows that we take care of our street trees.

1112
01:49:40,650 --> 01:49:44,690
And we do have a certain code that we go by as far as purchasing,

1113
01:49:44,890 --> 01:49:49,870
maintaining and where we plant them and our code for that is 12 by 2,

1114
01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:53,130
5 city ordinance. Um, let's see.

1115
01:49:53,230 --> 01:49:59,030
It also shows that we spend $2 per capita. So on street trees,

1116
01:49:59,030 --> 01:50:06,630
which means for us that we track every single receipt as far as mark placement, chips, fabric,

1117
01:50:08,050 --> 01:50:12,930
employee time, everything that we do has to be accounted for, tracked all year long.

1118
01:50:13,390 --> 01:50:18,450
And we just label a tree city, we follow it, and then when that November comes for us,

1119
01:50:18,530 --> 01:50:22,530
then we start pouring all these numbers together, see if we hit our mark.

1120
01:50:24,510 --> 01:50:30,110
The next thing we have is an Arbor Day celebration, ours is in November, which is kind of odd.

1121
01:50:30,470 --> 01:50:37,990
We do get a little bit of flack for that, but it's basically because that's when it was first handed off to us was in October, November, six years ago.

1122
01:50:38,410 --> 01:50:46,670
And so, we just had to come up with an Arbor Day date and it kind of works out good because everything's dormant at that time for trees. So, and we came our day.

1123
01:50:46,670 --> 01:50:51,830
even though it's a little cold and wet out there, we still plant some trees. And with that

1124
01:50:51,830 --> 01:50:57,350
Arbor Day celebration, we also, we don't always have to plant a tree. You know, we can, we can

1125
01:50:57,350 --> 01:51:02,630
also do classes, you know, how to prune trees, just has to be tree related. So I know going

1126
01:51:02,630 --> 01:51:06,710
forward, we're going to start working with Hannah. She's our new parks manager and see if we can

1127
01:51:06,710 --> 01:51:11,130
get some of the kids involved and maybe do some training and lessons and things of that nature

1128
01:51:11,130 --> 01:51:14,450
through the ordinary, what we typically do, right?

1129
01:51:16,510 --> 01:51:20,530
You see, another cool thing that falls by this

1130
01:51:20,850 --> 01:51:23,450
is we have to have a community forester

1131
01:51:23,450 --> 01:51:25,670
and currently I'm the community forester,

1132
01:51:25,750 --> 01:51:28,650
so I go out, every call we get about gary oak trees,

1133
01:51:28,770 --> 01:51:30,690
for example, on the different groves,

1134
01:51:31,370 --> 01:51:33,810
whether it's up around or over here,

1135
01:51:33,830 --> 01:51:36,970
off of Scrum Avenue, we're on private property.

1136
01:51:37,270 --> 01:51:38,930
I look at the trees, we evaluate them,

1137
01:51:38,930 --> 01:51:42,510
We hire a business in our worst to come in,

1138
01:51:42,630 --> 01:51:44,550
give us a report and then I can tell you,

1139
01:51:44,630 --> 01:51:46,410
basically, you know, as history does,

1140
01:51:46,590 --> 01:51:48,170
the shot is it gonna fall on your house,

1141
01:51:48,330 --> 01:51:50,390
we take it down, basically all that kind of,

1142
01:51:50,510 --> 01:51:52,770
some things that people need to know,

1143
01:51:52,950 --> 01:51:56,010
want to know, so that's a pretty important role

1144
01:51:56,010 --> 01:51:57,470
and it's a pretty busy one, actually.

1145
01:51:58,010 --> 01:51:59,150
Personally think about it,

1146
01:51:59,150 --> 01:52:01,890
but it is kind of a timely thing.

1147
01:52:03,230 --> 01:52:04,550
Next, the city must have,

1148
01:52:06,390 --> 01:52:08,450
see, we must, this is kind of a big one,

1149
01:52:08,450 --> 01:52:11,370
we provide a treat or a, excuse me,

1150
01:52:11,430 --> 01:52:14,770
we provide a treat care plan and vegetation management plan

1151
01:52:15,250 --> 01:52:17,470
for every park and pocket park in the city.

1152
01:52:17,950 --> 01:52:19,950
So when we sit down in November, basically,

1153
01:52:20,130 --> 01:52:23,610
we have to create a plan, a big parenthesis that says,

1154
01:52:23,770 --> 01:52:25,690
you know, this is how many invasive species

1155
01:52:25,690 --> 01:52:27,870
we're getting, a Blackberry, you know,

1156
01:52:28,010 --> 01:52:31,030
poison hemlock, scotch broom, all of that kind of stuff.

1157
01:52:31,210 --> 01:52:33,910
We have to track all of that for every park park,

1158
01:52:34,130 --> 01:52:34,770
everything that we're doing,

1159
01:52:34,770 --> 01:53:04,150
How we're getting rid of it and then basically then we have to fulfill that throughout the year and at the end of the year when we turn our stuff in in November, they go back they take about five months to review everything and then if you've met those needs and you can accomplish what you were

1160
01:53:04,150 --> 01:53:10,050
criteria to burn our six annual tree city award and just goes to show you that

1161
01:53:10,050 --> 01:53:12,250
we're proud of our trees. We're going to keep planting them.

1162
01:53:13,730 --> 01:53:16,790
That's about it for me. Any questions?

1163
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:28,440
So we're proud of our trees and that designation.

1164
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:33,720
We're also working on bicycle certification as a city and whatnot, that being a bicycle

1165
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:39,820
friendly. All right, so a couple other just last few items. One is you remember

1166
01:53:39,820 --> 01:53:48,820
that we applied for the $210,000 grant from the Washington State Parks and Rec

1167
01:53:48,820 --> 01:53:53,000
Creation Association as well as the Association of Washington Cities and we

1168
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:57,660
received it. It was a partnership with the city and with the Boys and Girls Club

1169
01:53:57,660 --> 01:54:03,620
and with the YMCA. The Boys and Girls Club said they would use the

1170
01:54:03,620 --> 01:54:09,000
money to offer low or no cost for attendance at their 10-week summer camp

1171
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:19,760
program and we received those funds. We passed those on to them and they are now up to so they

1172
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:28,000
signed 135 youths up to that action that summer. So that's really amazing and the YMCA of SWIM that

1173
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:34,660
was our other partner they have a nine-week outdoor leadership program and they just reported

1174
01:54:34,660 --> 01:54:42,620
back to trees that they initially planned on only having 25 participants and now they're over 31 with the help of this grant that

1175
01:54:42,620 --> 01:54:48,440
partnership with the city. So I wanted you to be proud of what you've done and a part of for the city.

1176
01:54:49,220 --> 01:54:57,240
Two last things. I know that you were made aware of through an email about some issues.

1177
01:54:58,020 --> 01:55:00,540
There's always operational challenges and whatnot.

1178
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:02,760
So we always like to share wins.

1179
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:06,800
I heard back from a resident who says,

1180
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:09,620
and I quote, that his email expected you to contact me

1181
01:55:09,620 --> 01:55:11,980
with an update when your work was complete

1182
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:14,960
so that you could take credit for your efforts

1183
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:15,620
as you should.

1184
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:18,560
Since you just quietly did as you promised,

1185
01:55:18,740 --> 01:55:21,740
I will therefore give you the credit you deserve

1186
01:55:22,180 --> 01:55:23,020
through this email.

1187
01:55:23,900 --> 01:55:35,760
He addresses the the bench that we worked on. He says it looks so much better. Thanks to your efforts. I'm sure all the sponsors of the positive facilities are also so grateful for your hard work.

1188
01:55:35,980 --> 01:55:41,800
He stepped up and answered the call of a citizen importantly and responsibly if I could return to kindness in any way.

1189
01:55:41,800 --> 01:56:01,700
Let me know and sign that. So I wanted to share that with you. And my last item is I wanted to publicly thank Kalina who's in our legal department. She's the legal assistant and has graciously worked hard to step in and fill in for our full time city clerk who's off in at her

1190
01:56:01,700 --> 01:56:04,040
And I'll try to get it certified. So, thank you.

1191
01:56:05,740 --> 01:56:08,480
And that's it. Thank you.

1192
01:56:10,780 --> 01:56:11,800
See council.

1193
01:56:15,670 --> 01:56:16,930
You mean an answer.

1194
01:56:18,170 --> 01:56:20,150
Well, I have one major.

1195
01:56:21,230 --> 01:56:23,750
The mayor was, I apologize.

1196
01:56:25,290 --> 01:56:30,430
Councilman Armand was unavailable to take the bus to Hurricane Ridge.

1197
01:56:30,850 --> 01:56:33,930
I took it and took my federal National Park senior pass.

1198
01:56:34,510 --> 01:56:36,970
The bus is free for the month of June,

1199
01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:40,590
and they made it a transit,

1200
01:56:40,870 --> 01:56:42,910
Cloud County transit meeting because we had

1201
01:56:42,910 --> 01:56:45,590
a quorum of the board who wanted to take this bus ride.

1202
01:56:45,990 --> 01:56:50,790
So the bus leaves three times a day from Fort Angeles Transit Center and

1203
01:56:50,790 --> 01:56:54,890
and returns from Hurricane Ridge four times a day.

1204
01:56:55,230 --> 01:56:59,010
So if you missed the last bus at 345, you're out of luck.

1205
01:56:59,450 --> 01:57:01,630
We did see a bear and a grouse

1206
01:57:02,110 --> 01:57:03,450
and it was a beautiful weather.

1207
01:57:03,990 --> 01:57:06,010
I was worried it might be snow when we got up there,

1208
01:57:06,150 --> 01:57:08,630
but it was very nice and I'm so glad

1209
01:57:08,630 --> 01:57:13,550
that the county transit is addressing this issue.

1210
01:57:13,930 --> 01:57:17,030
You can park your car at the transit center or nearby

1211
01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:19,230
and just hop on the bus and spend the day there.

1212
01:57:19,230 --> 01:57:21,150
It's an awesome service.

1213
01:57:21,770 --> 01:57:22,510
Thank you.

1214
01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:30,200
I could add one addition of Gateway Center, which is kind of downtown in Fort Angeles.

1215
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:33,440
That's where the bus will actually pick you up to go up the hurricane.

1216
01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:36,620
Oh, I call it the transit center. I don't know.

1217
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:39,120
We're the big buses.

1218
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:50,080
So, Angela Rathbone sent out an email, at least one, I think the other one he didn't address to everybody's office.

1219
01:57:50,280 --> 01:58:02,470
That's the court to get to council, but one of the things that he mentioned in his report on the housing solution committee during one of the public comment sessions.

1220
01:58:03,610 --> 01:58:05,870
So the comment made that was kind of

1221
01:58:08,650 --> 01:58:16,870
potentially bring about a discussion from council, but he says that the individual, the local builder who complained that building.

1222
01:58:17,990 --> 01:58:28,470
Manufacturer housing in the area would have negative impact on the values of single families get built homes. You didn't mention that you put his money into building short term rentals.

1223
01:58:28,470 --> 01:58:33,450
this could be rent out between $470 to $800 per day.

1224
01:58:35,420 --> 01:58:37,500
So depending on what the definition

1225
01:58:37,500 --> 01:58:39,840
that's in this context was short term rentals

1226
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:41,140
is whether it's B and B,

1227
01:58:42,260 --> 01:58:44,220
they're the possible that might come

1228
01:58:44,850 --> 01:58:46,160
this way from all discussion.

1229
01:58:48,460 --> 01:58:50,780
But that was from the Council of Ratham's report

1230
01:58:50,780 --> 01:58:52,780
and I saw 70 other reports that said

1231
01:58:52,780 --> 01:58:54,000
for the distribution.

1232
01:58:54,460 --> 01:58:55,620
I did get two of them.

1233
01:58:55,660 --> 01:58:58,060
Yeah, should be forwarded in the course of time.

1234
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:09,880
All right, so I have three committee briefs and try to make them brief.

1235
01:59:11,380 --> 01:59:19,080
My tablet might be struggling because I have so many programs open. So if I stutter or lag out, I apologize.

1236
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:45,240
So the first meeting was the solid waste advisory committee meeting and there weren't a whole lot of updates other than I think the, oh yeah, the blue mountain transfer transfer station is that reopening has been pushed back.

1237
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:57,360
So that one was the only one that really pertained to us, so I will open up the NODC meeting notes

1238
01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:59,960
if my tablet will cool.

1239
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:10,160
We had a presentation from the WSU Clallam County extension, which has all kinds of programs

1240
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:16,040
like 4-H youth development, master gardener program, food system program, and waste prevention

1241
02:00:16,040 --> 02:00:22,170
program. So if you have some free time, I highly recommend looking into the WSU Clallam

1242
02:00:22,170 --> 02:00:32,650
County Extensions. And what else? There were a couple points about broadband updates. I

1243
02:00:32,650 --> 02:00:38,950
wasn't sure if Anthony had known about them. I know he's pretty on top of everything, everything,

1244
02:00:39,070 --> 02:00:46,310
broadband and squim. So they were talking about hoping to have a second broadband symposium

1245
02:00:46,310 --> 02:00:54,730
I'm in the fall to focus on what's been accomplished for the region and some of the best ways that we can move forward.

1246
02:00:57,590 --> 02:01:00,390
I think that was it from that one really.

1247
02:01:01,350 --> 02:01:07,410
And then the last one was from the homelessness task force meeting.

1248
02:01:09,110 --> 02:01:18,250
There was a lot of discussion around safe parking and we will also be talking about it at the next meeting.

1249
02:01:19,290 --> 02:01:27,730
And these are quarterly meetings. So the next one I don't think will be until September, if I'm remembering correctly.

1250
02:01:35,730 --> 02:01:39,030
And, yeah, that's it. That's it for me. Thanks.

1251
02:01:42,950 --> 02:01:46,890
I had a meeting with the Economic Development Council on the 25th.

1252
02:01:47,570 --> 02:01:50,530
One of the highlights was Colleen McLean. She's our director.

1253
02:01:50,530 --> 02:01:55,210
of his rebirth. And she was very kind and gracious to her little crown that her coworkers

1254
02:01:55,210 --> 02:02:00,830
coerced her into. If you get a chance to know Colleen, she's not an eye person. She's a week

1255
02:02:00,830 --> 02:02:05,570
and she does an amazing job for our community. Michael McCabe, who's been our chair,

1256
02:02:06,290 --> 02:02:11,390
runs two businesses in Port Angeles. And due to the heavy lift of that, he is stepping down

1257
02:02:11,390 --> 02:02:17,030
from chair to secretary. And Jennifer Burkhard was kind enough to take over the helm.

1258
02:02:17,030 --> 02:02:23,650
We had quite a robust discussion concerning solid waste

1259
02:02:23,650 --> 02:02:28,490
and the potential of going into the Carlsberg Industrial Park.

1260
02:02:29,130 --> 02:02:36,370
There were 596 letters written from superintendent of Frable to residents,

1261
02:02:36,670 --> 02:02:42,990
to businesses in the Carlsberg area opposing the landfill site.

1262
02:02:42,990 --> 02:02:46,330
The EDC took it upon their direction.

1263
02:02:46,910 --> 02:02:51,590
There was concern from the airport of the risk of birds interfering with air traffic.

1264
02:02:51,910 --> 02:02:54,210
There was also concern, of course, with traffic.

1265
02:02:55,010 --> 02:03:01,230
I was on the first rotation and Gray will open my son's starting kindergarten there.

1266
02:03:02,290 --> 02:03:09,910
Unfortunately, we have traffic backups getting into school and we had traffic backups getting out of school that hasn't changed.

1267
02:03:09,910 --> 02:03:15,030
What they did to address the concerns they visited the solid waste location in

1268
02:03:15,030 --> 02:03:19,170
Montesano, which is the same organization is proposing to do it in

1269
02:03:19,170 --> 02:03:25,030
Carlsberg. They spent two hours there, they had a really amazing quality drone

1270
02:03:25,030 --> 02:03:33,750
video, and during that two hours they saw two birds. So the emphasis, it's a solid

1271
02:03:33,750 --> 02:03:38,470
waste transfer station. It's not where garbage is left to be accumulated. So the

1272
02:03:38,470 --> 02:03:44,210
over as minimal. Based upon the footage, I wouldn't suggest eating on the floor, but you can certainly

1273
02:03:44,210 --> 02:03:51,410
sleep on it. It was very impressive. Addressing the 596 people who were opposed. And of course,

1274
02:03:51,490 --> 02:03:56,150
they were requesting that the EDC writes a letter to support not in our backyard.

1275
02:03:56,950 --> 02:04:04,090
Barney reminded everyone that May 19th of 2019, we the public became aware of the proposed

1276
02:04:04,090 --> 02:04:13,930
map clinic. We have over 2,600 ink on paper signatures, not email sent in, but

1277
02:04:13,930 --> 02:04:17,990
actual people talking to small businesses, knocking on doors, getting input.

1278
02:04:18,910 --> 02:04:24,130
Those who were opposed to that, it was not in my backyard, the NIMBYism. It's in

1279
02:04:24,130 --> 02:04:28,270
the core of our shopping. We've got our largest residential senior housing

1280
02:04:28,270 --> 02:04:35,910
development. Now, fast forward to 2022. The Healing Center, if you haven't physically

1281
02:04:35,910 --> 02:04:41,170
driven by, is a beautiful facility. It's done in the standard that we're accustomed to,

1282
02:04:41,350 --> 02:04:46,510
the change town, the architectural, the landscape, and yes, we will have Christmas

1283
02:04:46,510 --> 02:04:53,170
markets come all the way down. My point being, we're all quick to jump to conclusions.

1284
02:04:53,710 --> 02:05:00,290
What I've learned during my tenure on your council, if it is zone appropriately, if they

1285
02:05:00,290 --> 02:05:06,530
meet the secret requirements, we're not King Arthur, they can say, no, I don't like it.

1286
02:05:07,030 --> 02:05:12,450
So at the end of the day, what I suggest, we all keep an open mind, realize we have

1287
02:05:12,450 --> 02:05:14,990
a physical need that has to be addressed.

1288
02:05:15,350 --> 02:05:19,650
The eastern portion of Collin County, we need to do something that's solid waste.

1289
02:05:19,650 --> 02:05:22,070
So, stay tuned. There'll be more to come.

1290
02:05:22,970 --> 02:05:27,450
The second meeting was the advisory committee for the Healing Center.

1291
02:05:28,450 --> 02:05:34,550
They have been going through the frustration of getting permits finalized. The construction, of course, is changed. It's beautiful.

1292
02:05:35,290 --> 02:05:39,950
We're still waiting for the DEA to get their final blessings so they can move forward.

1293
02:05:40,690 --> 02:05:47,130
We're hoping to have an opening within the next week or two, a grand opening of schedule for July.

1294
02:05:47,870 --> 02:05:52,190
The technology, they're running three different software systems to maintain

1295
02:05:53,290 --> 02:05:58,210
proficiency in communication. Epic, of course, is our medical that we communicate with.

1296
02:05:58,750 --> 02:06:02,770
That has created a bit of a dilemma because it's patient information.

1297
02:06:04,790 --> 02:06:08,830
We have in Clough County, we've actually had for quite a while, our health and spoke,

1298
02:06:09,530 --> 02:06:15,890
which is a treatment facility where we in Clough County can treat 940 people

1299
02:06:15,890 --> 02:06:17,250
with opioid injections.

1300
02:06:18,310 --> 02:06:20,550
Know your doctor, your stress is concerned.

1301
02:06:21,050 --> 02:06:24,050
With Epi, those medications show up on that list.

1302
02:06:24,250 --> 02:06:26,070
So that's a bit of a hurdle that they're working through.

1303
02:06:26,690 --> 02:06:29,330
Of course, Metasol, monitoring patient flow,

1304
02:06:29,610 --> 02:06:30,730
as well as online demo.

1305
02:06:34,190 --> 02:06:36,350
The opportunity to reach out,

1306
02:06:36,450 --> 02:06:38,910
let me say one more thing about the health and spoke.

1307
02:06:39,530 --> 02:06:43,210
There's currently 120 participants in that program

1308
02:06:43,210 --> 02:06:45,150
that are currently taking Suboxone.

1309
02:06:45,770 --> 02:06:47,750
Most of the employers have no idea

1310
02:06:48,150 --> 02:06:50,950
the normal business people that look like you and me,

1311
02:06:51,390 --> 02:06:52,690
but for whatever reason,

1312
02:06:52,750 --> 02:06:55,810
they have an issue and they're doing something about it.

1313
02:06:56,010 --> 02:06:58,870
So the opportunity to meet the need is being addressed

1314
02:06:58,870 --> 02:07:00,770
and we're excited about that process.

1315
02:07:01,490 --> 02:07:03,590
It's interesting the process of intake

1316
02:07:03,590 --> 02:07:05,050
is a four-hour dilemma.

1317
02:07:05,590 --> 02:07:07,370
They're anticipating the opening of the doors

1318
02:07:07,810 --> 02:07:09,790
is going to be a minimum of 30 patients

1319
02:07:10,150 --> 02:07:11,610
and there's a specific need.

1320
02:07:11,610 --> 02:07:16,770
Not only will they be dealing with opioid addiction or primary care as well as death.

1321
02:07:18,350 --> 02:07:28,650
The navigator, which is a very positive part that someone other than a new boy for James town where the city is from behavior and this will be your health.

1322
02:07:28,650 --> 02:07:34,850
They have a software called ClickUp, where they will be monitoring not only the neighborhood

1323
02:07:34,850 --> 02:07:38,770
concern, but they can communicate directly with the navigator.

1324
02:07:39,290 --> 02:07:43,790
If there is a person loitering behavior, they find them desirable or things are concerned,

1325
02:07:44,150 --> 02:07:48,590
they have access to that person who can then move forward and address the issue.

1326
02:07:49,390 --> 02:07:55,410
So things are set up, it appears to be a well organized, well thought out opportunity

1327
02:07:55,410 --> 02:07:58,750
And we're looking forward to the opportunity.

1328
02:07:59,990 --> 02:08:00,550
So.

1329
02:08:04,770 --> 02:08:05,330
Comments.

1330
02:08:08,250 --> 02:08:09,110
We'll be candle discussion.

1331
02:08:15,450 --> 02:08:19,830
I would like to know what type of ordinance we need to pass to get this room cool.

1332
02:08:22,590 --> 02:08:24,250
I'm sorry about that.

1333
02:08:24,350 --> 02:08:27,810
There must be somebody that can make an executive decision. Okay.

1334
02:08:27,910 --> 02:08:30,130
I just want to briefly affordable thing.

1335
02:08:33,390 --> 02:08:41,390
I just wanted to say briefly that the city is trying to address housing the lack of housing.

1336
02:08:42,830 --> 02:08:53,110
We're up against a huge mini mini faceted problem. We have no control over the price of housing across the country and no control over the cost of longer.

1337
02:08:55,430 --> 02:09:02,710
The council before us updated the ordinances for ADUs, which is accessory to all our units.

1338
02:09:02,930 --> 02:09:05,630
You can build a small house on your lot and rent it to somebody.

1339
02:09:05,930 --> 02:09:08,370
It has to meet the city code for ADUs.

1340
02:09:09,070 --> 02:09:15,890
That council also passed an ordinance that you can live in commercial property.

1341
02:09:16,790 --> 02:09:20,110
You've always been able to live upstairs in commercial property.

1342
02:09:20,110 --> 02:09:25,410
can live in the downstairs of the commercial property if it does not face Washington Street.

1343
02:09:25,830 --> 02:09:29,610
We want to preserve the look of our downtown so that it still looks like a downtown.

1344
02:09:30,810 --> 02:09:37,690
We've been talking about the home sharing. There's many, many ways to address lack of housing

1345
02:09:37,690 --> 02:09:42,890
because there are many, many reasons why we have a lack of housing. I just want people to

1346
02:09:42,890 --> 02:09:46,090
to be patient and we're working on it.

1347
02:09:46,650 --> 02:09:47,650
We welcome ideas.

1348
02:09:48,070 --> 02:09:49,290
You can send us emails.

1349
02:09:51,130 --> 02:09:53,010
We are committed to it.

1350
02:09:53,090 --> 02:09:54,290
The whole city is committed to it.

1351
02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:54,870
Thank you.

1352
02:09:57,210 --> 02:09:58,910
That's when I got anything to add?

1353
02:10:03,950 --> 02:10:05,990
No, I don't think I have anything at this time.

1354
02:10:06,390 --> 02:10:06,710
Thank you.

1355
02:10:16,090 --> 02:10:17,790
I'm gonna ask about the consideration

1356
02:10:17,790 --> 02:10:20,070
from the request from this force

1357
02:10:20,070 --> 02:10:22,670
from public comments about the flag.

1358
02:10:23,890 --> 02:10:39,390
And I know that Christina, my attorney is not here and that makes it hard to talk about it, but I think that the reason Chol's no flag was because it's up with a cool thing and it really isn't.

1359
02:10:39,730 --> 02:10:41,570
So I just want to consider that.

1360
02:10:42,490 --> 02:10:45,130
And maybe we don't, is Christina on vacation?

1361
02:10:50,810 --> 02:11:14,690
I don't know if you want to address this. I think there was an email from the mayor. I didn't hear it was for political reasons. I, it's not my conversation, but I heard it was because there's so many potential other groups that may want to have a, like, phone that the mayor felt uncomfortable trying to yes and no, you know, once you start.

1362
02:11:14,690 --> 02:11:19,370
I didn't I never heard there was a political reason if it was a concern over

1363
02:11:21,230 --> 02:11:26,310
Senate presidents that again that that that was just a virtual conversation. So I

1364
02:11:26,310 --> 02:11:32,330
I don't know if that answers your question. I probably deferred to Christina when she was back

1365
02:11:32,330 --> 02:11:36,930
she was building a horno and John that one because there was um

1366
02:11:40,670 --> 02:11:41,810
because I was I'll do a

1367
02:11:41,810 --> 02:11:47,790
little bit of research I know the city of Boston or a lot of superior court case very recently

1368
02:11:48,490 --> 02:11:55,290
Um, Harold, Harold, the shirt left versus the city of Boston that kind of dealt with this

1369
02:11:55,290 --> 02:11:55,630
issue.

1370
02:11:56,110 --> 02:11:56,330
I

1371
02:11:58,470 --> 02:12:03,680
mean, I was interested in that up and dealt with flying using them.

1372
02:12:04,380 --> 02:12:06,140
Um, I just did that today.

1373
02:12:06,840 --> 02:12:08,820
I would defer to Christina.

1374
02:12:12,770 --> 02:12:15,190
Will she be up for any extended period of time or?

1375
02:12:15,770 --> 02:12:19,710
No, she's, she may be back even later this week.

1376
02:12:20,290 --> 02:12:21,110
But for sure next week.

1377
02:12:21,890 --> 02:12:25,210
Can you ask her to reach out to Council?

1378
02:12:26,310 --> 02:12:29,050
And she's often unavailable by email.

1379
02:12:29,230 --> 02:12:32,070
So we'll do what we can to attend the individual

1380
02:12:32,070 --> 02:12:34,090
that asked her in public comment.

1381
02:12:34,370 --> 02:12:35,290
She could reach you back after her.

1382
02:12:35,430 --> 02:12:36,610
She hasn't anything

1383
02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:42,600
else from Council.

1384
02:12:43,200 --> 02:12:45,700
One thing that I'd like to bring up and I'm sure we've all had the

1385
02:12:45,700 --> 02:12:47,620
emails concerning the rolling bills.

1386
02:12:47,820 --> 02:12:55,330
We all have a responsibility to try to do our due diligence on

1387
02:12:55,330 --> 02:12:58,350
and keep that to date to what's in the hopper, so to speak.

1388
02:12:59,310 --> 02:13:02,210
I regret if it wasn't, it wasn't until it came out

1389
02:13:02,210 --> 02:13:03,750
in the news app that I became aware of it.

1390
02:13:03,970 --> 02:13:06,890
So I started scrambling and doing some investigation

1391
02:13:06,890 --> 02:13:08,910
and then emails came in.

1392
02:13:11,550 --> 02:13:14,270
Transparency in city government and federal government

1393
02:13:14,670 --> 02:13:16,150
to me, I believe is essential.

1394
02:13:17,110 --> 02:13:21,690
We the people are who pay our outrageous huge salaries

1395
02:13:21,690 --> 02:13:22,650
that we get up here.

1396
02:13:22,650 --> 02:13:32,090
But the point being, as a representative of the community, it's critical that we as council members

1397
02:13:32,090 --> 02:13:32,810
take the information.

1398
02:13:33,550 --> 02:13:38,770
So when we're asked the questions, we can respond with a reasonable degree of integrity and honesty

1399
02:13:38,770 --> 02:13:39,530
of where it's going.

1400
02:13:40,510 --> 02:13:49,370
And we are, fortunately, in the city in my believe, having some very positive changes moving forward.

1401
02:13:49,370 --> 02:13:55,950
We've watched it to transfer in public works to where things are happening in a very positive

1402
02:13:55,950 --> 02:14:02,550
direction, as well as with our city staff, hiring key people, and of course, through

1403
02:14:02,550 --> 02:14:03,930
the direction that we've seen management.

1404
02:14:04,550 --> 02:14:11,470
So I would like to continue to get the inside track, if you will, so that we're not blindsided

1405
02:14:11,470 --> 02:14:16,250
by the angry citizen that I look like a boom, which I'm good at doing that.

1406
02:14:17,030 --> 02:14:18,190
I don't know what you're talking about.

1407
02:14:18,190 --> 02:14:27,890
But the opportunity, I think, when we hear the public comment, I genuinely appreciate those who have the willingness to get up and speak their minds.

1408
02:14:29,030 --> 02:14:35,250
You know, people are what fuels this country moving forward. This is not a couple of people that believe their direction is the most known.

1409
02:14:35,730 --> 02:14:37,070
So I think added communication.

1410
02:14:37,970 --> 02:14:39,210
We do have a young council.

1411
02:14:40,350 --> 02:14:45,930
in terms of experience and you know fortunately they bring another set of

1412
02:14:45,930 --> 02:14:49,770
classes that are going to give us a better perspective on how we can sort of

1413
02:14:49,770 --> 02:14:55,570
view the people better. So the opportunity to have those emails have

1414
02:14:55,570 --> 02:14:59,970
those questions we try to respond to the best that we can and if we don't we

1415
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:16,000
We're doing the subject matter expert and get that input so that we can follow through. So your town is your town and we're going to try to have a handle on the rudder of what we feel your needs are with what the city is responsible for being part of.

1416
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:16,700
Thank

1417
02:15:21,210 --> 02:15:39,790
you. Just reminded me. We also heard about transparency and the need for it. And, you know, we do follow the Open Public Meetings Act and we do need it is in public. There aren't any behind the doors meetings with the Jamestown tribe.

1418
02:15:39,790 --> 02:15:49,910
We are planning a meeting with them, the city manager is working on, and that will be an open meeting so people are welcome to come and listen and hear and join us online.

1419
02:15:51,130 --> 02:16:03,330
We're not really allowed to help back and forth with the public in our meetings that we are as cancer armor costs that available through email and emails probably best phone.

1420
02:16:03,330 --> 02:16:16,350
And then public comments or what we have also to hear from you and I take notes every time we really appreciate when the public comes and tells us what they're worried about if we did something well.

1421
02:16:16,810 --> 02:16:31,250
And so please continue to do that but know that there's a lot of roles we also have to follow that maybe it'd be easier but it also protects you guys from us transacting business behind closed doors which you need to be able to see what we're doing.

1422
02:16:31,250 --> 02:16:32,690
Thank you.

1423
02:16:42,750 --> 02:16:46,390
I don't want to thank everybody for attending the city council meeting.

1424
02:16:46,970 --> 02:16:54,050
And that our next regular city council meeting will be June 27th at 6pm, both in person and hybrid.

1425
02:16:54,050 --> 02:16:54,270
Great.

1426
02:16:54,930 --> 02:16:56,030
This meeting is adjourned.