1 00:00:44,812 --> 00:00:46,812 Uh 2 00:00:47,948 --> 00:00:50,948 now I recording in progress. 3 00:00:51,886 --> 00:00:56,556 Now I call to order the Shoreline City Council 4 00:00:56,556 --> 00:00:58,556 17, 2026, will you please 5 00:01:00,627 --> 00:01:04,827 join the council for the flag salute. 6 00:01:05,432 --> 00:01:08,902 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United 7 00:01:08,902 --> 00:01:12,506 States of America to the republic for which it 8 00:01:12,506 --> 00:01:15,375 stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty 9 00:01:15,375 --> 00:01:17,375 and justice 10 00:01:19,647 --> 00:01:23,984 Thank you. Well, the clerk please call the roll. 11 00:01:23,984 --> 00:01:26,984 Mayor Robertson, Deputy Mayor Pobee 12 00:01:27,187 --> 00:01:29,187 Councilmember Snyder. Here 13 00:01:30,725 --> 00:01:33,725 Councilmember Roberts Councilmember Ademasu present. 14 00:01:35,195 --> 00:01:38,795 Councilmember Mark present Councilmember Scully present. 15 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,204 Is there a motion to excuse That are 16 00:01:43,204 --> 00:01:46,804 missing members. I move to excuse 17 00:01:47,740 --> 00:01:51,120 Mayor Robertson and Deputy Mayor Pobee for personal reasons. Second. 18 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,415 Thank you. Uh, if there are no objections, the 19 00:01:54,415 --> 00:01:58,150 motion shall pass by unanimous consent. 20 00:01:59,486 --> 00:02:03,156 Our first item on the agenda, the first item 21 00:02:03,156 --> 00:02:06,427 is approval of tonight's agenda Are there any objections 22 00:02:06,427 --> 00:02:09,563 or comments? Seeing none, the agenda 23 00:02:09,563 --> 00:02:12,563 is adopted by unanimous consent 24 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:16,437 Next is a report from the acting city 25 00:02:16,437 --> 00:02:20,370 manager, Mr. Branstetter. Good evening, counsel. 26 00:02:20,441 --> 00:02:23,977 I have a few updates to share this statement. First, here's a quick update 27 00:02:23,977 --> 00:02:27,581 on our community emergency response team, also 28 00:02:27,581 --> 00:02:31,118 known as CERT. The October Cert basics course is building 29 00:02:31,118 --> 00:02:34,921 up fast. There are only a few spots left. This 30 00:02:34,921 --> 00:02:38,926 free 3 day course is open to Shoreline community members and city 31 00:02:38,926 --> 00:02:42,997 staff. Registration is required so if you're interested, please sign up using 32 00:02:42,997 --> 00:02:46,667 the QR code on your screen. We've had a great response to this training 33 00:02:46,667 --> 00:02:50,700 and staff is already looking into offering another cert course 34 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:53,670 in late 26 or early 27. There's another 35 00:02:53,740 --> 00:02:57,811 free preparedness opportunity coming up in January, the 36 00:02:57,811 --> 00:03:01,682 disaster preparedness and survival course will teach more hands-on skills 37 00:03:01,682 --> 00:03:05,885 for getting ready for responding to and recovering from emergencies. 38 00:03:05,885 --> 00:03:08,285 Earlier this month, Shoreline 39 00:03:09,757 --> 00:03:13,560 hosted a special pickleball event to celebrate National Pickleball Day 40 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,363 partnering with diversity and inclusion in pickleball. Over 41 00:03:17,363 --> 00:03:21,101 150 people joined throughout the day, and more than 20 volunteers 42 00:03:21,101 --> 00:03:24,772 coaches, and helpers made the event possible. We also gave out 43 00:03:24,772 --> 00:03:27,772 over 35 donated paddles for participants 44 00:03:28,575 --> 00:03:32,512 to take home. The event was free and brought together players of all 45 00:03:32,512 --> 00:03:35,582 ages, backgrounds and experience levels. I'd like to thank recreation 46 00:03:35,582 --> 00:03:37,982 supervisor Angie Rance and 47 00:03:39,786 --> 00:03:43,923 recreation specialist Mary Anne Johnson for helping bring together this partnership 48 00:03:43,923 --> 00:03:47,393 to Shoreline, as well as Sue Goodwin and all the DIIAP volunteers who made this day 49 00:03:47,393 --> 00:03:51,198 a great success. The event is a great example 50 00:03:51,198 --> 00:03:55,135 of equity in action through recreation. It removed, excuse me 51 00:03:55,135 --> 00:03:56,470 it removed barriers and created a welcoming space for everyone where everyone 52 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:58,470 could join in. 53 00:04:01,875 --> 00:04:04,875 At Celebrate Shoreline this past 54 00:04:05,945 --> 00:04:09,816 weekend, staff continued our community education around the new roundabouts at 55 00:04:09,816 --> 00:04:13,686 the 140 5th Street Interchange, as you can see in this photo, some 56 00:04:13,686 --> 00:04:17,891 of our young residents really enjoyed testing the roundabout layout 57 00:04:17,891 --> 00:04:21,562 with model cars. It turned out to be a great way to bring families over to our table. 58 00:04:21,562 --> 00:04:25,165 While kids tried out the roadway, parents had the opportunity 59 00:04:25,165 --> 00:04:28,769 to ask staff questions about lane choices yielding, and 60 00:04:28,769 --> 00:04:33,106 how to safely navigate the new interchange. These kinds 61 00:04:33,106 --> 00:04:36,776 of hands-on conversations are especially helpful as drivers get used to the 62 00:04:36,776 --> 00:04:39,913 new roadway and we'll continue looking for opportunities 63 00:04:39,913 --> 00:04:42,913 to make this transition easier. 64 00:04:44,510 --> 00:04:47,521 Looking ahead, are our last energized shoreline workshop 65 00:04:47,521 --> 00:04:51,525 of 2026 is tomorrow evening, August 18th, from 6:30 66 00:04:51,525 --> 00:04:54,862 to 7:30 at City Hall. Residents can learn about heat pump technology. 67 00:04:54,862 --> 00:04:58,462 Ways to save energy. Available rebates 68 00:04:58,799 --> 00:05:02,535 and financing and incentives that could save them up to $6000 on a qualifying 69 00:05:02,535 --> 00:05:06,539 heat pump. The workshop is available in person and online. 70 00:05:06,539 --> 00:05:09,877 If you're coming in person, you can register at the door 71 00:05:09,877 --> 00:05:13,213 For more information or to register, please 72 00:05:13,213 --> 00:05:15,613 visit shorelinewah.gov/goelectric. 73 00:05:17,818 --> 00:05:21,288 We have two shoreline walk events happening this week. Join our 74 00:05:21,288 --> 00:05:24,958 walk leaders on Tuesday for the Meridian Trail 75 00:05:24,958 --> 00:05:28,629 Meridian Park loop walk and Saturday for the Lake Ballinger 76 00:05:28,629 --> 00:05:32,365 Interurban Trail Walk. These guided walks are a great 77 00:05:32,365 --> 00:05:36,103 way to explore shorelines neighborhoods, parks, and community 78 00:05:36,103 --> 00:05:39,907 destinations. To learn more or to sign up for a walk, visit 79 00:05:39,907 --> 00:05:41,907 shorelinewah.gov/shorelinewalks 80 00:05:43,577 --> 00:05:47,848 And finally I have just a few public reminders to share 81 00:05:47,848 --> 00:05:48,248 Counsel will be on break the rest of the summer, so the next city council meeting will take 82 00:05:48,248 --> 00:05:50,248 place on Monday 83 00:05:52,119 --> 00:05:55,856 September 14th at 7 p.m. here in the council chambers. The planning 84 00:05:55,856 --> 00:05:59,593 commission will meet on Thursday, September 3rd, also in the 85 00:05:59,593 --> 00:06:03,330 city council chambers at 7 p.m. And the parks, recreation 86 00:06:03,330 --> 00:06:06,667 and Cultural services tree board's next meeting is Thursday 87 00:06:06,667 --> 00:06:10,137 September 24th at 7 p.m. in conference 88 00:06:10,137 --> 00:06:13,760 room 303 at City Hall. Meeting details, agenda 89 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,360 and additional information can be found 90 00:06:17,764 --> 00:06:21,167 at shorelinewah.gov/calendar. This concludes the city manager's report. 91 00:06:21,167 --> 00:06:24,570 Thank you, Mr. Branstadter. Uh, are there 92 00:06:24,570 --> 00:06:27,570 any council reports? This evening. 93 00:06:29,242 --> 00:06:31,242 Councilmember Ademasu. 94 00:06:32,178 --> 00:06:34,578 Thank you. I I 95 00:06:36,449 --> 00:06:39,385 attended Washington's water future, virtual 96 00:06:39,385 --> 00:06:41,385 input session and 97 00:06:42,655 --> 00:06:46,255 local governments. You also can make 98 00:06:46,392 --> 00:06:50,330 public comment on Department of Ecology's website through 99 00:06:50,330 --> 00:06:56,930 August 31st with your comments on our water future. Thank you. 100 00:06:58,471 --> 00:07:01,875 Seeing no other hands indicating that 101 00:07:01,875 --> 00:07:05,545 for a council report, next on the agenda is 102 00:07:05,545 --> 00:07:09,215 public comment. This is the opportunity for members 103 00:07:09,215 --> 00:07:13,219 of the public to address the city council on agenda items or 104 00:07:13,219 --> 00:07:16,889 other matter pertaining to city business for a 3 minutes or less, depending on 105 00:07:16,889 --> 00:07:20,826 the number of people wishing to speak. The total public 106 00:07:20,826 --> 00:07:24,964 comment period will be no more than 30 minutes if more than 10 people 107 00:07:24,964 --> 00:07:28,501 are assigned, are assigned up to speak. Each speaker will be allocated 2 minutes. 108 00:07:28,501 --> 00:07:31,838 Please note there is also an opportunity to speak after 109 00:07:31,838 --> 00:07:35,108 agenda item 8A this evening. Action 110 00:07:35,108 --> 00:07:37,844 of resolution number 567. Miss Hardy, how 111 00:07:37,844 --> 00:07:41,470 many individuals have signed up to speak. I have 112 00:07:41,470 --> 00:07:43,447 6 speakers for general comment. 113 00:07:45,117 --> 00:07:48,722 Uh, thank you. That means each speaker will get 3 minutes. 114 00:07:48,722 --> 00:07:52,458 Um, before we begin, I'd like to ask our audience to 115 00:07:52,458 --> 00:07:56,262 refrain from clapping, booing, or other outbursts. We want 116 00:07:56,262 --> 00:08:00,660 to make sure every speaker feels safe and respected while sharing 117 00:08:00,660 --> 00:08:03,669 their perspective regardless of whether the room agrees with them. 118 00:08:03,669 --> 00:08:07,207 Thank you for helping us keep this space neutral 119 00:08:07,207 --> 00:08:10,677 productive, and welcoming. The clerk will call on 120 00:08:10,677 --> 00:08:14,814 each person in-person speakers first and remote 121 00:08:14,814 --> 00:08:18,951 speakers second when it is your turn, please state your name, city, residence, and 122 00:08:18,951 --> 00:08:22,621 any organization represented. Please be advised that your testimony is being recarded. 123 00:08:22,621 --> 00:08:26,250 Ms. Hardy, could you please call the first speaker. For 124 00:08:26,250 --> 00:08:29,294 a general comment, our first speakers are 125 00:08:29,294 --> 00:08:32,894 Violet Kay, Amber, and Bonnie Berry. 126 00:08:34,300 --> 00:08:37,900 You'll speak at this podium here. 127 00:08:37,903 --> 00:08:39,903 Thank you. 128 00:08:42,374 --> 00:08:44,774 Testing, OK. Hello, I'm 129 00:08:45,912 --> 00:08:49,782 Violet Kawaguchi. I am the executive director of 130 00:08:49,782 --> 00:08:53,653 the Kawaguchi O'Connor Initiative. We are a Washington state 501c3 131 00:08:53,653 --> 00:08:57,190 that helps transgender individuals flee legislatively hostile states 132 00:08:57,190 --> 00:09:00,659 and settle here in Washington. I would like to thank the 133 00:09:00,659 --> 00:09:04,196 council for taking a stance on trans rights 134 00:09:04,196 --> 00:09:08,201 and that trans people should be included in the city 135 00:09:08,201 --> 00:09:11,671 of Shoreline. Brian Haywood's initiatives and the people who support them 136 00:09:11,671 --> 00:09:15,607 are dangerous. One of the people that, Brian 137 00:09:15,607 --> 00:09:18,945 Haywood strongly associates with, is named Ary Hoffman, and she has been 138 00:09:18,945 --> 00:09:22,748 he has been known to go into local parks to 139 00:09:22,748 --> 00:09:26,348 intimidate people who are advocates for 140 00:09:26,752 --> 00:09:30,356 trans rights or just people in general. These include parts of children 141 00:09:30,356 --> 00:09:33,826 at them. These are not people that represent the views of 142 00:09:33,826 --> 00:09:37,363 the shoreline that I live in, and I thank 143 00:09:37,363 --> 00:09:41,701 the council for sticking up for its trans constituents. 144 00:09:41,701 --> 00:09:44,101 But, uh, yeah. Thank 145 00:09:45,371 --> 00:09:48,775 you. Uh, is it correct you live in Shoreline? Yeah, I live 146 00:09:48,775 --> 00:09:52,512 uh, thank you. Thank you very much. 147 00:09:52,512 --> 00:09:54,512 Hello. Welcome. Uh 148 00:09:55,982 --> 00:09:59,251 hi, I'm Ember. I live in 149 00:09:59,251 --> 00:10:02,988 the Ballard area, um, I fled here to 150 00:10:02,988 --> 00:10:05,988 like this to Washington, like 3 151 00:10:06,590 --> 00:10:09,590 years ago, fleeing the fleeing 152 00:10:09,595 --> 00:10:11,995 the absolute hate of 153 00:10:12,865 --> 00:10:15,865 like anti-trans legislation and if 154 00:10:16,535 --> 00:10:19,739 if I return, I will likely 155 00:10:19,739 --> 00:10:23,339 be arrested and sent to jail 156 00:10:23,609 --> 00:10:26,813 for fucking sorry, excuse me. Um, for nothing 157 00:10:26,813 --> 00:10:29,882 and the official policy of the 158 00:10:29,882 --> 00:10:32,882 US prison system is literally 159 00:10:33,180 --> 00:10:35,180 to forcefully de-transition 160 00:10:36,689 --> 00:10:39,959 anyone they have in their custody, the 161 00:10:39,959 --> 00:10:43,559 federal prison system, um, and that's 162 00:10:44,229 --> 00:10:47,567 And just being arrested for using 163 00:10:47,567 --> 00:10:50,903 Just the bathroom for 5 years being arrested 164 00:10:50,903 --> 00:10:54,106 for 5 years, that's just, you can, and 165 00:10:54,106 --> 00:10:57,706 then you can put it together 166 00:10:57,777 --> 00:11:00,913 I, the first thing that they ever did 167 00:11:00,913 --> 00:11:03,982 in my home state of Utah to chip 168 00:11:03,982 --> 00:11:06,982 away at our rights was 169 00:11:07,186 --> 00:11:11,386 was to ban trans people from sports 170 00:11:12,325 --> 00:11:15,594 and don't even give them an inch. Uh 171 00:11:15,594 --> 00:11:17,594 fortify Washington. 172 00:11:19,799 --> 00:11:21,799 Support resolution 567. 173 00:11:23,469 --> 00:11:25,469 Thank you. 174 00:11:27,206 --> 00:11:30,543 Bonnie Berry, Kathleen Russell, then Janelle Kimmerly. 175 00:11:30,543 --> 00:11:32,543 Welcome. Hi, Bonnie 176 00:11:34,414 --> 00:11:37,750 Berry Shoreline. I'm going to do my best to read this off my phone. 177 00:11:37,750 --> 00:11:40,686 Shoot, OK, um, I wanted to 178 00:11:40,686 --> 00:11:43,860 talk about um the 179 00:11:45,424 --> 00:11:48,895 Design engineering contract for Westminster sidewalks and 180 00:11:48,895 --> 00:11:51,764 just remind you of some comments that have 181 00:11:51,764 --> 00:11:54,164 So in May of 2021 182 00:11:55,968 --> 00:11:59,305 um, Deputy, um, Keith Scully agreed 183 00:11:59,305 --> 00:12:02,775 that flexibility in sidewalk design can be 184 00:12:02,775 --> 00:12:05,775 useful preserving mature trees. February 2022 185 00:12:06,245 --> 00:12:09,845 council members acknowledged the difficulty of 186 00:12:10,315 --> 00:12:13,719 balancing the community's desires with the goal of making shoreline walkable 187 00:12:13,719 --> 00:12:17,319 safe, and accessible. accessible to all 188 00:12:17,457 --> 00:12:20,543 providing opportunities to reduce impacts to climate change 189 00:12:20,543 --> 00:12:22,943 through preservation of trees. 190 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,880 September 2023, Councilmember Mork 191 00:12:27,150 --> 00:12:30,820 stated trees are an asset that increase 192 00:12:30,820 --> 00:12:34,290 in value the bigger they are, and since then, the city 193 00:12:34,290 --> 00:12:37,960 now has an inventory of the street trees with 194 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,432 street valuations requested on all public works projects. 195 00:12:42,432 --> 00:12:44,432 March 2024, Councilmember 196 00:12:46,436 --> 00:12:49,839 Scully stated that he wants to make sure existing mature trees are included in 197 00:12:49,839 --> 00:12:53,175 the balance of roadway projects as proposed 198 00:12:53,175 --> 00:12:55,575 to prioritizeizing wider sidewalks. 199 00:12:56,713 --> 00:13:00,116 And uh Mayor Roberts at the time stated his support 200 00:13:00,116 --> 00:13:03,520 for tree replacement in capital projects. 201 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,920 April 2024, Councilmember Adam Masu 202 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:10,526 questioned whether Sidewalk widths can be narrowed 203 00:13:10,526 --> 00:13:13,930 to preserve trees in general and councilmember 204 00:13:13,930 --> 00:13:17,533 Pobee stated that we have an opportunity and 205 00:13:17,533 --> 00:13:22,710 a responsibility to save trees for generations to come. 206 00:13:22,710 --> 00:13:24,710 June 2024 councilmember Po 207 00:13:25,742 --> 00:13:29,745 Pobee expressed that trees are natural assets 208 00:13:29,745 --> 00:13:33,683 and sidewalks are just capitalized assets that belong to the community. 209 00:13:33,683 --> 00:13:36,830 And just last week 210 00:13:36,819 --> 00:13:38,819 councilmember Ademasu and 211 00:13:40,623 --> 00:13:43,960 Mork commented about public street trees to be removed along 212 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,960 North 175th corridor for the phase phase 213 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,496 1 renovation without a 1 to 214 00:13:50,767 --> 00:13:54,170 1 tree replacement. This conversation has been going on 215 00:13:54,170 --> 00:13:57,640 since 2021 and yet limited progress has been 216 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,976 made on retaining trees at public work projects 217 00:14:00,976 --> 00:14:03,976 Westminster Way. is an opportunity 218 00:14:04,380 --> 00:14:07,984 for counsel to approve the design engineering 219 00:14:07,984 --> 00:14:12,187 contract that actually demonstrates this can be done. 220 00:14:12,187 --> 00:14:14,187 Thank you. 221 00:14:15,191 --> 00:14:17,191 Welcome. Hello counsel 222 00:14:19,862 --> 00:14:22,862 Janelle Kemmerling, resident of Shoreline. 223 00:14:23,199 --> 00:14:26,469 It's apparent from reading ongoing reports 224 00:14:26,469 --> 00:14:29,469 and comments regarding Theresa versus 225 00:14:30,139 --> 00:14:33,476 sidewalks that some people and organizations continue 226 00:14:33,476 --> 00:14:36,946 to focus on their own single interests. You 227 00:14:36,946 --> 00:14:40,215 have heard from Doctor Kathleen Wolf that 228 00:14:40,215 --> 00:14:43,619 trees and housing can and must coexist. 229 00:14:43,619 --> 00:14:46,956 You know from the experience with Washdot 230 00:14:46,956 --> 00:14:50,292 on Dayton Avenue that money can be saved 231 00:14:50,292 --> 00:14:53,892 by retaining existing trees instead of 232 00:14:53,963 --> 00:14:56,363 installing man-made stormwater infrastructure. 233 00:14:57,366 --> 00:15:00,966 Remember, the 2018 bond issue was money 234 00:15:01,104 --> 00:15:04,173 voted for sidewalks. It was not voted for shared use paths 235 00:15:04,173 --> 00:15:06,573 or bike lanes. Save 236 00:15:07,576 --> 00:15:10,913 Shoreline trees supports the bike network 237 00:15:10,913 --> 00:15:14,117 but must we pour more and more concrete 238 00:15:14,117 --> 00:15:17,117 concrete, hardscape into high walls. 239 00:15:18,321 --> 00:15:22,580 We must not write off living in a city among trees 240 00:15:22,580 --> 00:15:25,928 that benefit all who live in the city by saying it is just a 241 00:15:25,928 --> 00:15:29,532 handful of trees, and there are other trees on land outside the city. 242 00:15:29,532 --> 00:15:32,935 Taking down a handful here and a 243 00:15:32,935 --> 00:15:36,472 handful there equals no trees left in the city. 244 00:15:36,472 --> 00:15:39,876 Is it not possible for folks to 245 00:15:39,876 --> 00:15:43,613 come together with their combined intellect and a 246 00:15:43,613 --> 00:15:47,820 purpose of preserving and increasing shorelines tree canopy 247 00:15:47,820 --> 00:15:50,286 as presented in the 2044 comprehensive plan. 248 00:15:50,286 --> 00:15:53,886 For the good of everyone. Please. 249 00:15:54,490 --> 00:15:56,490 Thank you. Welcome. 250 00:15:57,293 --> 00:15:59,293 Thank you. 251 00:16:01,970 --> 00:16:04,633 Kathleen Russell, resident of Shoreline on behalf of 252 00:16:04,633 --> 00:16:07,970 Safe Shoreline Trees. My comment pertains to the 253 00:16:07,970 --> 00:16:11,574 consent calendar item F. I live along 254 00:16:11,574 --> 00:16:14,910 Westminster Way north and it has definitely become 255 00:16:14,910 --> 00:16:18,180 a speedway. In considering the new sidewalk 256 00:16:18,180 --> 00:16:21,717 we all agree it needs to be safe. 257 00:16:21,717 --> 00:16:24,854 As we understand bike lanes are an additional budget 258 00:16:24,854 --> 00:16:27,854 to what voters approved in 2018 259 00:16:28,190 --> 00:16:31,790 At the council workshop on March 7 260 00:16:32,395 --> 00:16:34,395 2026, Kevin Hickinbottom, urban 261 00:16:36,132 --> 00:16:39,602 forestry supervisor, provided information about appraising the 262 00:16:39,602 --> 00:16:42,602 value of Shoreline's 19,000 street trees. 263 00:16:42,739 --> 00:16:45,739 While a citywide evaluation was 264 00:16:46,209 --> 00:16:49,345 not deemed efficient, counsel was provided the 265 00:16:49,345 --> 00:16:51,745 option of quote. Performing 266 00:16:52,948 --> 00:16:56,285 tree appraisals on a project by project basis as 267 00:16:56,285 --> 00:16:59,822 part of an arborist report. We ask 268 00:16:59,822 --> 00:17:03,292 council to request the reprised value of trees that 269 00:17:03,292 --> 00:17:06,829 are slated to be removed along. Westminster 270 00:17:06,829 --> 00:17:10,232 Way north as part of the Arborist report and that 271 00:17:10,232 --> 00:17:13,636 the valuation be available before the project 272 00:17:13,636 --> 00:17:16,773 reaches 30% design. In addition we ask that 273 00:17:16,773 --> 00:17:19,773 a Permitrex walkway which would 274 00:17:20,443 --> 00:17:23,779 protect the roots and preserve trees be installed along a 275 00:17:23,779 --> 00:17:27,379 segment of Westminster Way. The permit 276 00:17:27,650 --> 00:17:30,919 track installed along Dayton Avenue North at 155th, eliminated the 277 00:17:30,919 --> 00:17:33,319 need for stormwater infrastructure. 278 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,456 Which the 91 trees provide. 279 00:17:37,393 --> 00:17:40,863 Two questions. First, would a permit 280 00:17:40,863 --> 00:17:44,600 track installation along Westminster Way from 150th 281 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,204 to 153rd, where most of the tall trees 282 00:17:48,204 --> 00:17:51,474 are located, eliminate the need for the 6 ft wide or 6 283 00:17:51,474 --> 00:17:54,474 ft tall concrete walls. Second 284 00:17:54,943 --> 00:17:58,414 would tree retention eliminate the need for 285 00:17:58,414 --> 00:18:01,884 an underground stormwater system. These these 286 00:18:01,884 --> 00:18:05,487 savings could possibly fund the Permitrac sidewalk. 287 00:18:05,487 --> 00:18:08,891 Thank you for your consideration of these requests 288 00:18:08,891 --> 00:18:11,961 Thank you. The last speaker I've signed 289 00:18:11,961 --> 00:18:14,361 up is Guinevere Gulsdottir. 290 00:18:22,370 --> 00:18:25,641 Hi, thank you. Uh, my name is 291 00:18:25,641 --> 00:18:29,178 Guinevere God'sdotterer. I'm a trans woman from Seattle. Um 292 00:18:29,178 --> 00:18:32,401 I wanna say that I'm here, uh, in support of 293 00:18:32,401 --> 00:18:35,403 the resolution. I think it was 5:09. 294 00:18:35,403 --> 00:18:37,803 The one that's under 295 00:18:38,339 --> 00:18:40,339 consideration, um. 296 00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:47,349 567 brought forth by a council members Roberts and Mork, I want to thank 297 00:18:47,349 --> 00:18:50,819 you for bringing that forth. Um 298 00:18:50,819 --> 00:18:53,889 Yeah, there is a trans genocide going 299 00:18:53,889 --> 00:18:56,289 on in this country. 300 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,696 If I were in Idaho right now, I would be in prison 301 00:19:00,696 --> 00:19:04,767 for using the bathroom. Uh, it is a 302 00:19:04,767 --> 00:19:08,904 felony on the 2nd offense for a trans person to use the bathroom aligning with their 303 00:19:08,904 --> 00:19:12,507 identity in Idaho. Uh, and because of Idaho's three strikes law, if 304 00:19:12,507 --> 00:19:15,644 you use the bathroom 4 times, you can go to prison 305 00:19:15,644 --> 00:19:19,244 for life. That's just next door 306 00:19:19,314 --> 00:19:22,851 Um, so I just want to impress on everyone that 307 00:19:22,851 --> 00:19:25,987 the gravity of the situation that we're facing. Um 308 00:19:25,987 --> 00:19:28,987 I myself everyday face jeers 309 00:19:29,324 --> 00:19:32,794 and taunts on the sidewalk here in Seattle 310 00:19:32,794 --> 00:19:36,264 sometimes threats of rape, sometimes threats of 311 00:19:36,264 --> 00:19:39,267 grievous bodily harm in Seattle supposedly 312 00:19:39,267 --> 00:19:42,267 the wokest city in America 313 00:19:42,937 --> 00:19:46,608 um, I was maced just 3 nights ago while waiting at a bus 314 00:19:46,608 --> 00:19:49,677 stop, just for waiting at a bus stop while trains in the 315 00:19:49,677 --> 00:19:52,770 university district. Um, This 316 00:19:53,214 --> 00:19:56,751 cross contains the ashes of my mother. Uh, she 317 00:19:56,751 --> 00:20:00,222 just died two weeks ago. She was a proud gay woman. 318 00:20:00,222 --> 00:20:03,291 And she drank herself to death because of the 319 00:20:03,291 --> 00:20:06,291 decades of oppression that she 320 00:20:06,427 --> 00:20:09,831 faced as a cis gay woman. Um 321 00:20:09,831 --> 00:20:13,301 and the, uh, The oppression that faces trans 322 00:20:13,301 --> 00:20:16,638 women and especially trans women of color is far 323 00:20:16,638 --> 00:20:20,242 worse than that. Um, so thank you for 324 00:20:20,242 --> 00:20:23,712 your support, and I hope you pass this resolution. 325 00:20:23,712 --> 00:20:25,712 Thank you. 326 00:20:28,583 --> 00:20:31,583 Uh, is there anyone else 327 00:20:32,654 --> 00:20:36,858 ? OK, last one, last one, I think I'm AJ Randall on the shoreline resident. 328 00:20:36,858 --> 00:20:41,620 Um, I mean, the first thing I have to say is that spaces can't 329 00:20:41,620 --> 00:20:44,332 be neutral. We're, we're talking about neutrality. Don't clap. We've got to make sure 330 00:20:44,332 --> 00:20:48,337 everyone feels safe. Um, there is no 331 00:20:48,337 --> 00:20:52,700 neutrality between people who want to eliminate you from public life. If you 332 00:20:52,700 --> 00:20:55,610 if I said, if I said I wanted you dead and you said 333 00:20:55,610 --> 00:20:59,347 I wanted to live, what's the middle ground there? OK. 334 00:20:59,347 --> 00:21:03,618 I don't see trans people on this council. I don't know. You know 335 00:21:03,618 --> 00:21:07,756 obviously I'm not going to transvestigate anybody here, but nobody's talked about that 336 00:21:07,756 --> 00:21:11,226 It's pretty obvious in politics today. I don't know how many of you have trans friends 337 00:21:11,226 --> 00:21:11,493 I don't know how many of you have friends who are trans who would actually say, you know 338 00:21:11,493 --> 00:21:13,493 what 339 00:21:15,163 --> 00:21:15,430 that person's a close friend of mine. I don't know. I'm not gonna say one way or another, 340 00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:17,430 but 341 00:21:19,434 --> 00:21:23,371 I can tell you I have a lot. My partner's trans. I'm surrounded by trans people 342 00:21:23,371 --> 00:21:25,974 and it is very difficult for me to live like day to day knowing what 343 00:21:25,974 --> 00:21:29,578 is happening throughout this community. How many are fleeing here from Texas 344 00:21:29,578 --> 00:21:33,715 from Utah, from Florida, from everywhere throughout 345 00:21:33,715 --> 00:21:38,530 this country and like I have housed two of them in the last 3 years in my home with no 346 00:21:38,530 --> 00:21:41,923 support from anybody but myself paying for them from the cash I made from my tech shitty 347 00:21:41,923 --> 00:21:45,326 tech bro job out of Seattle, but like nobody, the fact that again 348 00:21:45,326 --> 00:21:49,131 like this, we're talking about just stopping 349 00:21:49,131 --> 00:21:52,600 these bullshit, um, totally frivolous waste of our time that 350 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,538 are, wow, this genocide is happening. Like that is 351 00:21:56,538 --> 00:22:00,342 a minimum. I really, again, I'm I'm begging you to figure something out 352 00:22:00,342 --> 00:22:04,479 that's more than that. Seattle just passed a bill to allocate 353 00:22:04,479 --> 00:22:08,549 funds 3000. Awesome. That's great. That's the a starting point. You want to 354 00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:11,286 give that to nonprofits, whatever, I don't know. I think we can build better 355 00:22:11,286 --> 00:22:11,553 services for trans people. I think we can help them get their medical care. I think we 356 00:22:11,553 --> 00:22:13,553 can 357 00:22:15,557 --> 00:22:19,427 figure out housing. Housing is like a big deal. food, stuff like that. We're 358 00:22:19,427 --> 00:22:22,898 losing federal benefits for things like SNAP. Like I, I had to go 359 00:22:22,898 --> 00:22:22,964 on unemployment like benefits like I haven't been able to get a job after getting fired from 360 00:22:22,964 --> 00:22:24,964 a 361 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:30,972 tech job 9 months ago. Like it works for 6 weeks or 2 months. It's nothing. Like 362 00:22:30,972 --> 00:22:35,243 trans people have a way more difficult time getting a job than I do as 363 00:22:35,243 --> 00:22:39,181 a 15 year tech career. I can go get some shitty job. I can absolutely pay for myself. They 364 00:22:39,181 --> 00:22:43,452 can't get Amazon jobs. They get discriminated everywhere. Like if you 365 00:22:43,452 --> 00:22:43,585 do not understand how hard it is for trans people, just like they said in communities. That 366 00:22:43,585 --> 00:22:45,585 are 367 00:22:47,522 --> 00:22:51,726 highly progressive, considered the leftmost places in this country, then 368 00:22:51,726 --> 00:22:55,730 you really do not understand the struggle that is actually in these streets, and I'm 369 00:22:55,730 --> 00:22:59,670 asking you and begging you to like really focus more on that. So pass this 370 00:22:59,670 --> 00:22:59,134 do whatever, um, but we need to go way, way farther, and I hope that people are talking about 371 00:22:59,134 --> 00:23:01,134 it 372 00:23:03,204 --> 00:23:03,605 especially the people that are running for other offices, because when you run for other 373 00:23:03,605 --> 00:23:05,605 offices and 374 00:23:07,609 --> 00:23:07,876 you're not solving these major problems, man, it makes me feel like you're, that's what's 375 00:23:07,876 --> 00:23:09,876 important to 376 00:23:11,412 --> 00:23:15,283 you. So anyway, have a good day y'all. Thank you. 377 00:23:15,283 --> 00:23:17,283 Welcome. Um, 378 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,880 Lake Buchanan, Meridian Park represent. 379 00:23:24,292 --> 00:23:28,497 Trans people in Idaho now face prison time for using the correct bathroom. 1700 trans 380 00:23:28,497 --> 00:23:31,900 folks in Kansas woke up one day in February to find out their driver's licenses had been 381 00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:32,100 revoked with no warning or notice. The Trump administration is currently 382 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:34,100 trying to 383 00:23:35,303 --> 00:23:35,503 force medical providers across the country to turn over private medical information 384 00:23:35,503 --> 00:23:37,503 about 385 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,311 gender-affirming care and the people receiving it. A naive reading of 386 00:23:43,311 --> 00:23:47,490 initiatives 001 and 638 might suggest that they are mild by comparison 387 00:23:47,490 --> 00:23:51,119 but they are quite simply the thin end of the wedge, that is 388 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,560 the conservative movement's ongoing efforts at trans. Genocide. This is 389 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:55,323 not hyperbole. The UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of 390 00:23:55,323 --> 00:23:57,323 Genocide 391 00:23:59,193 --> 00:24:02,998 defines the term to include causing serious bodily or mental harm 392 00:24:02,998 --> 00:24:07,201 to members of the group deliberately inflicting on the group 393 00:24:07,201 --> 00:24:11,205 conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part 394 00:24:11,205 --> 00:24:11,472 and forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. We have seen 395 00:24:11,472 --> 00:24:13,472 numerous 396 00:24:15,677 --> 00:24:15,810 instances of all of these actions attempted and carried out by conservatives over the 397 00:24:15,810 --> 00:24:17,810 past 398 00:24:19,948 --> 00:24:23,218 10 or 12 years, to say nothing of the escalation in anti-trans violence at the hands 399 00:24:23,218 --> 00:24:26,154 of non-state actors in March, the 400 00:24:26,154 --> 00:24:29,224 Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention and Human Security 401 00:24:29,224 --> 00:24:32,224 issued its red flag alert 402 00:24:32,761 --> 00:24:36,765 about anti-trans genocide in the United States 403 00:24:36,765 --> 00:24:40,386 Brian Haywood and his hateful ilk know that they can't push as hard in 404 00:24:40,386 --> 00:24:40,586 Washington as they've pushed in other states. They know that they don't have the support for 405 00:24:40,586 --> 00:24:42,586 their 406 00:24:44,524 --> 00:24:48,795 real aims, so they feign concern about fairness in youth sports, though I 407 00:24:48,795 --> 00:24:52,799 ask what's fair about telling a kid that they can't play with their friends because of 408 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:56,200 how they were born. parental rights, though I must point out that if your child 409 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:56,202 doesn't feel safe telling you who they are, you have fundamentally failed as a 410 00:24:56,202 --> 00:24:58,202 parent 411 00:25:00,406 --> 00:25:04,343 They don't care about the health or well-being of kids. They only care about hurting 412 00:25:04,343 --> 00:25:08,281 trans people. They frame their detractors as predators and groomers. As a 413 00:25:08,281 --> 00:25:11,818 trans person, I can assure you trans people do not want your cis kids 414 00:25:11,818 --> 00:25:15,621 to become trans. We just want your trans kids to survive 415 00:25:15,621 --> 00:25:19,691 Over the last year or two, the Puget Sound region has seen tens 416 00:25:19,691 --> 00:25:23,629 of thousands of trans refugees come here fleeing right-wing violence and hate. 417 00:25:23,629 --> 00:25:27,366 Seeking some measure of safety in our community because our community 418 00:25:27,366 --> 00:25:31,570 is one of the last safe refuges in the country for trans people 419 00:25:31,570 --> 00:25:35,641 and as bad as things have been getting in the United States, much of the rest of the 420 00:25:35,641 --> 00:25:39,645 world is even worse. The trans community needs all the help and support we can 421 00:25:39,645 --> 00:25:43,249 get. It's bad out there, and Brian Haywood and his lot would love nothing more 422 00:25:43,249 --> 00:25:46,853 than to make it just as bad here. Do not let them 423 00:25:46,853 --> 00:25:50,255 even start because they will not stop with destroying the 424 00:25:50,255 --> 00:25:53,592 trans community just as they didn't in 1933. 425 00:25:53,592 --> 00:25:56,592 Protect trans kids, pass Resolution 567 426 00:25:57,596 --> 00:26:01,467 as amended by Councilmember Roberts. Thank you, Councilmembers Roberts and 427 00:26:01,467 --> 00:26:05,710 Mark. And for any of my fellow transgender folks here or listening 428 00:26:05,710 --> 00:26:08,741 elsewhere or watching the recording, Dora Richter lived. 429 00:26:08,741 --> 00:26:10,741 Thank you. Welcome. 430 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:16,279 Hi, um, I'm here to 431 00:26:16,682 --> 00:26:20,153 say support trans people first need your name 432 00:26:20,153 --> 00:26:23,689 and state of city of residence. Yes 433 00:26:23,689 --> 00:26:27,930 uh, I'm Lou and I'm from Seattle, uh, but I'm 434 00:26:27,930 --> 00:26:30,562 speaking here for, I know a lot of trans people 435 00:26:30,562 --> 00:26:34,366 in Shoreline and um I've gathered that the 436 00:26:34,366 --> 00:26:37,637 culture here is a little more repressive than it is in Seattle 437 00:26:37,637 --> 00:26:41,174 especially trans people of color I know 438 00:26:41,174 --> 00:26:45,644 here experience like. A lot of racism here 439 00:26:45,644 --> 00:26:49,844 uh, transphobia is more prevalent here, and 440 00:26:50,116 --> 00:26:53,252 We know that Seattle has a cost of living, like 441 00:26:53,252 --> 00:26:56,922 it's quite high to live in Seattle 442 00:26:56,922 --> 00:27:01,594 A lot of places around Seattle that where it's cheaper to 443 00:27:01,594 --> 00:27:05,198 live is where plenty of people go just 444 00:27:05,198 --> 00:27:08,134 because that's affordable for them 445 00:27:08,134 --> 00:27:11,134 Um, there is a trans 446 00:27:12,271 --> 00:27:16,750 refugee crisis, and it's not just a Seattle thing 447 00:27:16,750 --> 00:27:19,745 Trans people don't just live in Seattle, they live here. And the 448 00:27:19,745 --> 00:27:22,749 most vocal of us might be from Seattle. Seattle, but In order 449 00:27:22,749 --> 00:27:25,749 for you, this culture of 450 00:27:26,419 --> 00:27:29,622 like being actually decent with trans, can't just stop 451 00:27:29,622 --> 00:27:33,158 at Seattle. Washington as a whole 452 00:27:33,158 --> 00:27:37,300 needs to be fortified and feel safe for the trans 453 00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:40,320 people leaving all of these states that are 454 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,320 against us or 455 00:27:43,436 --> 00:27:46,572 Like, I think I'd like um 456 00:27:46,572 --> 00:27:50,172 saw a thing about how like 457 00:27:50,909 --> 00:27:53,112 trees struggle if there's only like one, but if it's in a forest 458 00:27:53,112 --> 00:27:55,381 it can actually thrive. We can't have just like 459 00:27:55,381 --> 00:27:58,981 these little specks. where we're safe 460 00:27:59,185 --> 00:28:02,455 The more we concentrate our right 461 00:28:02,455 --> 00:28:06,550 rights and cultural changes to be 462 00:28:06,580 --> 00:28:09,862 good for us, the more we as 463 00:28:09,862 --> 00:28:13,132 an entire community survive, and it's very much a survival thing 464 00:28:13,132 --> 00:28:16,736 and that's why you hear people being 465 00:28:16,736 --> 00:28:20,606 very angry. It is survival. It is life or death for us 466 00:28:20,606 --> 00:28:24,143 So please continue, um, thank you for the people who 467 00:28:24,143 --> 00:28:27,800 put in, uh, put out this proposal to oppose this. 468 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,480 Uh, I know Brian's 469 00:28:30,816 --> 00:28:34,153 friend Ari. I've seen her. She's going to 470 00:28:34,153 --> 00:28:37,756 be in Redmond with Brian Haywood, and she 471 00:28:37,756 --> 00:28:40,893 Or he, he's a de-transitioner, but he takes 472 00:28:40,893 --> 00:28:44,493 estrogen, but I will respect he 473 00:28:44,497 --> 00:28:47,833 will, um, he's talking with Brian Haywood 474 00:28:47,833 --> 00:28:50,703 in Redmond on an anti-trans thing. So, 475 00:28:50,703 --> 00:28:52,703 Like Basically 476 00:28:53,973 --> 00:28:56,709 these like more mild things are 477 00:28:56,709 --> 00:29:00,379 direct friends with the more violent end of this 478 00:29:00,379 --> 00:29:03,849 if not just violent themselves, so 479 00:29:03,849 --> 00:29:07,253 these things work in tandem, um legislatively 480 00:29:07,253 --> 00:29:10,923 even if it seems mild, but out outing people is 481 00:29:10,923 --> 00:29:14,660 not mild. Having that in legislation is not that mild 482 00:29:14,660 --> 00:29:18,598 but it does go tandem with the people pulling guns. Thank you. 483 00:29:18,598 --> 00:29:21,598 Thank you. Is there anyone 484 00:29:22,935 --> 00:29:26,339 else here who would like to speak? Thank 485 00:29:26,339 --> 00:29:29,742 you. Uh, now I would like to ask for approval of 486 00:29:29,742 --> 00:29:33,346 the consent calendar. Is there a motion? 487 00:29:33,346 --> 00:29:37,950 I, I move approval of the consent counter. Second. 488 00:29:37,950 --> 00:29:41,621 Uh, there's been a motion and a 489 00:29:41,621 --> 00:29:44,690 second while the clerk please call the vote. Councilmember 490 00:29:44,690 --> 00:29:46,690 Snyder, Councilmember 491 00:29:48,294 --> 00:29:51,294 Roberts. Councilmember Ademasu, Councilmember Mork 492 00:29:51,964 --> 00:29:54,964 Councilmember Scully. Motion passes 5 to 0. 493 00:29:56,635 --> 00:29:59,350 Now we're moving our 494 00:30:01,173 --> 00:30:03,173 Uh, item 8A. 495 00:30:11,316 --> 00:30:14,316 OK. The next item is 496 00:30:14,653 --> 00:30:17,653 action on resolution number 567 opposing 497 00:30:17,857 --> 00:30:20,257 Washington state ballot initiative 498 00:30:22,194 --> 00:30:25,198 IL 26-638 concerning participation in athletics 499 00:30:25,198 --> 00:30:27,598 at K through 12 public 500 00:30:28,934 --> 00:30:33,272 schools and Washington State Ballot initiative, IL 26-001. 501 00:30:33,272 --> 00:30:36,608 Concerning parental rights relating to their children in 502 00:30:36,608 --> 00:30:40,612 public schools. This item was sponsored by 503 00:30:40,612 --> 00:30:44,417 council members Mork and myself Jim Hammond will present the staff report. 504 00:30:44,417 --> 00:30:46,417 Good evening 505 00:30:48,970 --> 00:30:51,970 uh, counsel, I am. Presenting 506 00:30:52,841 --> 00:30:56,378 remotely today, so forgive me if I struggle 507 00:30:56,378 --> 00:31:00,449 with advancing the slides, uh, but I'm here today to 508 00:31:00,449 --> 00:31:02,449 Present briefly on 509 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,120 uh resolution 567, which by its 510 00:31:07,389 --> 00:31:10,726 terms would um advocate or place this 511 00:31:10,726 --> 00:31:14,730 uh Shoreline City Council in opposition to 512 00:31:14,730 --> 00:31:18,200 two ballot initiatives that are currently on the ballot scheduled for the 513 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,138 November vote, and I am not succeeding in 514 00:31:22,138 --> 00:31:25,474 advancing this. I'm very sorry, Kendall, if I can 515 00:31:25,474 --> 00:31:28,544 have your help. Um, so first of all, just 516 00:31:28,544 --> 00:31:30,544 a background of 517 00:31:31,414 --> 00:31:33,414 uh initiative 26 638 518 00:31:35,484 --> 00:31:38,484 relates to, uh, high school 519 00:31:38,954 --> 00:31:42,224 athletic competitions and it defines the concept 520 00:31:42,224 --> 00:31:45,224 of biologically male and requirements 521 00:31:45,561 --> 00:31:48,497 for uh a sort of a medical evaluation 522 00:31:48,497 --> 00:31:50,497 Uh, next slide. 523 00:31:51,434 --> 00:31:53,834 Um, The, the, the 524 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,444 uh, articulated supporter of the main support argument is fairness in girls' sports 525 00:32:01,444 --> 00:32:05,114 uh, opponents state that the initiative will subject all girls who wish to 526 00:32:05,114 --> 00:32:08,317 play sports to these additional evaluations. The second 527 00:32:08,317 --> 00:32:10,717 initiative, next slide please. 528 00:32:11,787 --> 00:32:14,457 I initiative 26001 and, and this 529 00:32:14,457 --> 00:32:16,457 uh 530 00:32:17,993 --> 00:32:20,993 It will, would reinstate an 531 00:32:21,397 --> 00:32:24,733 earlier initiative that was passed, uh. 532 00:32:24,733 --> 00:32:28,136 Initiative 2081. That was later amended by 533 00:32:28,136 --> 00:32:31,740 the legislature. The changes here would um 534 00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:34,877 Would, uh, essentially allow parents greater 535 00:32:34,877 --> 00:32:37,877 access to what is currently 536 00:32:38,747 --> 00:32:41,950 confidential information in, in student records 537 00:32:41,950 --> 00:32:44,950 and including healthcare records as 538 00:32:45,221 --> 00:32:48,221 well. Next slide, please. Supporters 539 00:32:49,425 --> 00:32:52,828 argue that parents have a right to know what is being discussed with their children 540 00:32:52,828 --> 00:32:56,298 Opponents. I note that not necessarily all 541 00:32:56,298 --> 00:32:59,898 students feel safe at home, and 542 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,172 the current structure gives students a safe place to talk at 543 00:33:03,172 --> 00:33:06,172 high schools, that is to 544 00:33:06,509 --> 00:33:10,109 their benefit, um, next slide, please. 545 00:33:10,112 --> 00:33:13,112 So there was an initial 546 00:33:13,783 --> 00:33:17,385 amendment drafted for the request of council members Roberts 547 00:33:17,385 --> 00:33:20,985 and Mork, uh, subsequently, Councilmember Roberts 548 00:33:21,389 --> 00:33:24,994 made several proposed amendments that would change 549 00:33:24,994 --> 00:33:28,463 the language, shorten it in some cases, certainly, uh, uh. 550 00:33:28,463 --> 00:33:32,100 An effective editorial pen, uh, these next 551 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:36,201 3 slides highlight what those changes would be. 552 00:33:36,739 --> 00:33:40,276 And so if you can just go through these 553 00:33:40,276 --> 00:33:43,879 three slides slowly, Kendall, uh, this one. 554 00:33:43,879 --> 00:33:47,750 The 3rd whereas clause condenses the language and 555 00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:50,753 makes it clearer. And finally, Kendall, thank you. The next one. 556 00:33:50,753 --> 00:33:52,753 Uh, this one, 557 00:33:54,156 --> 00:33:57,756 Just changes the language and given 558 00:33:57,893 --> 00:34:01,764 uh that, uh, Mr. uh, Councilmember Roberts wished to put 559 00:34:01,764 --> 00:34:05,901 these amendments forward for counsel consideration. Next slide, please. 560 00:34:05,901 --> 00:34:09,505 So, I, as staff, we are not 561 00:34:09,505 --> 00:34:13,309 able to run for electoral issues such as this take 562 00:34:13,309 --> 00:34:16,779 a position ourselves, so are our recommendation is simply that 563 00:34:16,779 --> 00:34:20,379 the council consider this proposed resolution 564 00:34:20,382 --> 00:34:24,186 and uh and take it from there. Next slide, please. 565 00:34:24,186 --> 00:34:27,589 So while we have already heard a comment 566 00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:31,660 from members of the public on this issue 567 00:34:31,660 --> 00:34:34,930 there is, um, formal structure, a public comment period 568 00:34:34,930 --> 00:34:38,400 that would follow now, uh, for any 569 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,871 remaining commenters to to speak, and that 570 00:34:41,871 --> 00:34:45,407 would procede counsel review and potential action on 571 00:34:45,407 --> 00:34:48,411 this. So with that, um, I turn it back to you 572 00:34:48,411 --> 00:34:50,811 Councilmember. Thank you, Mr 573 00:34:52,348 --> 00:34:55,885 Hammond. Uh, Ms. Hardy, is has anybody signed up for this portion? 574 00:34:55,885 --> 00:34:58,954 For public comment. Yes, we have a couple people. 575 00:34:58,954 --> 00:35:01,354 Um, our 1st 3 speakers 576 00:35:02,224 --> 00:35:05,224 will be Jean Norbert Steele 577 00:35:05,227 --> 00:35:07,627 and then Scott Menzies. 578 00:35:14,903 --> 00:35:16,903 Is Gene 579 00:35:17,773 --> 00:35:19,773 still here? 580 00:35:23,450 --> 00:35:25,981 Oh no, Gina is not there. 581 00:35:25,981 --> 00:35:28,381 Looks like she. Left. 582 00:35:31,187 --> 00:35:34,187 some issues with their stomach 583 00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:36,790 OK, we'll start with 584 00:35:38,794 --> 00:35:42,464 Norbert I don't. Hello, my name is Norbert Steele of Shoreline 585 00:35:42,464 --> 00:35:45,868 Um, obviously this, uh, this resolution's a layup, you 586 00:35:45,868 --> 00:35:48,738 should always, uh, you obviously should. 587 00:35:48,738 --> 00:35:51,138 As this resolution to 588 00:35:52,474 --> 00:35:55,878 oppose the reso the upcoming initiatives that are going to 589 00:35:55,878 --> 00:35:59,147 be voted on statewide, I believe. Um, that's 590 00:35:59,147 --> 00:36:01,951 a no-brainer. I do want to touch 591 00:36:01,951 --> 00:36:04,887 on something that I heard one of the previous speakers 592 00:36:04,887 --> 00:36:07,287 say about how they 593 00:36:08,557 --> 00:36:12,427 experience a uh uncomfortable but believable amount 594 00:36:12,427 --> 00:36:16,431 of discrimination here in Shoreline. I've been coming here for 6 595 00:36:16,431 --> 00:36:19,634 months now talking to you guys about all of the things going on in the city 596 00:36:19,634 --> 00:36:23,234 um, you know, just. Signs expressing 597 00:36:23,372 --> 00:36:26,575 solidarity with our immigrant community, constantly being 598 00:36:26,575 --> 00:36:30,175 vandalized around the city, um. I 599 00:36:30,445 --> 00:36:34,316 agree with the sentiments of several other speakers 600 00:36:34,316 --> 00:36:38,530 that although this resolution that I'm assuming you will all agree 601 00:36:38,530 --> 00:36:41,550 to and pass, uh, and thank you, Roberts and Mork for again 602 00:36:41,550 --> 00:36:43,455 putting it forward. I 603 00:36:44,593 --> 00:36:47,996 It is, you know, again, some bare minimum stuff, right 604 00:36:47,996 --> 00:36:51,400 ? Like I expect our city to 605 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,269 come out and say this is fucked up and we shouldn't do this. That's like 606 00:36:54,269 --> 00:36:56,669 a baseline for me 607 00:36:58,421 --> 00:37:02,910 um, realistically, I would like to see the city go much further with this sort of 608 00:37:02,910 --> 00:37:04,160 thing and start treating the incidents that are going around 609 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,310 right now, both in terms of, you know 610 00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:11,901 uh, discrimination against trans people and also the activity that 611 00:37:11,901 --> 00:37:15,504 ICE has been displaying in the area. Uh, take this seriously. Uh, as 612 00:37:15,504 --> 00:37:19,175 someone else said, these things are the wedge that 613 00:37:19,175 --> 00:37:22,979 cracks open basically everything and rots our society 614 00:37:22,979 --> 00:37:26,849 I came from Pennsylvania. I came from the Rot. I thought I got out of 615 00:37:26,849 --> 00:37:29,719 the rot. I'm watching the rot creep back into where I live now. 616 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,719 Please. Pass 617 00:37:33,255 --> 00:37:35,992 this resolution and also please 618 00:37:35,992 --> 00:37:39,729 continue to push on other agenda items like 619 00:37:39,729 --> 00:37:43,333 Getting the King County Sheriff's Department to show up to 620 00:37:43,333 --> 00:37:47,200 a hit and run caused by federal officers. Thank you. 621 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,200 Thank you. Welcome. 622 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,611 Good evening. My name is Scott Menzies, a resident 623 00:37:55,611 --> 00:37:59,683 of Shoreline, my organizing project is fortify Washington 624 00:37:59,683 --> 00:38:04,200 Presiding Officer Mork and members of the council, thanks for having us today and 625 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,230 thanks for taking up this for consideration, council members Mork and Roberts, thank you 626 00:38:07,230 --> 00:38:10,230 so much for proposing this. 627 00:38:10,930 --> 00:38:13,693 This is What I heard from 628 00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:16,833 my trans siblings earlier makes my heart hurt. 629 00:38:16,833 --> 00:38:18,833 And I'm I'm 630 00:38:21,371 --> 00:38:24,441 P help put this model resolution together and worked with no 631 00:38:24,441 --> 00:38:26,841 hate in Washington state. 632 00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:31,581 As an ally, I'm here as an ally and I want to see. 633 00:38:31,581 --> 00:38:33,981 Them feel as safe. 634 00:38:35,118 --> 00:38:38,788 As I feel walking down the street. And I know 635 00:38:38,788 --> 00:38:41,791 that I have all of the privileges that make 636 00:38:41,791 --> 00:38:45,600 it easy for me to exist. 637 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,460 In this place. And 638 00:38:49,650 --> 00:38:52,935 Knowing that it's not the case for others, knowing that we have to 639 00:38:52,935 --> 00:38:56,673 Field and waste money and time and energy 640 00:38:56,673 --> 00:38:59,673 and emotion, resisting what are 641 00:38:59,742 --> 00:39:01,742 awful. Horrifying 642 00:39:03,546 --> 00:39:05,546 transphobic, homophobic, misogynistic. 643 00:39:08,351 --> 00:39:11,821 Initiatives is. It hurts, and it is, it hurts 644 00:39:11,821 --> 00:39:15,558 my heart and it is the thin edge of the wedge. 645 00:39:15,558 --> 00:39:19,695 As Megan Rapinoe put it in an article, this is not just about 646 00:39:19,695 --> 00:39:22,899 This is, it starts with the trans folks 647 00:39:22,899 --> 00:39:25,899 and it moves towards constricting 648 00:39:26,836 --> 00:39:30,507 the spaces within which women are even allowed to exist in their sports. 649 00:39:30,507 --> 00:39:34,177 This is the thin edge of the wedge, and we have to 650 00:39:34,177 --> 00:39:37,246 repudiate it in the strongest and most definitive way possible 651 00:39:37,246 --> 00:39:40,246 This is why I feel. 652 00:39:40,850 --> 00:39:44,187 It's important for our city councils in this state to take 653 00:39:44,187 --> 00:39:47,724 this stand. I don't feel us voting is 654 00:39:47,724 --> 00:39:50,727 gonna is gonna be what does it or doesn't do it. 655 00:39:50,727 --> 00:39:54,327 But I feel like Our city 656 00:39:55,865 --> 00:39:59,268 Elected officials whom we elected, who represent us 657 00:39:59,268 --> 00:40:03,473 who are close to us because we live in the same 658 00:40:03,473 --> 00:40:07,143 place. We want to see you stand with us. And so, I wanna say I'm grateful that you 659 00:40:07,143 --> 00:40:10,212 are standing with us on this. I'm here as 660 00:40:10,212 --> 00:40:13,682 an ally. I wish I saw more 661 00:40:13,682 --> 00:40:17,820 allies, that also kind of hurts my heart. But 662 00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:21,691 I know that you will pass this and I 663 00:40:21,691 --> 00:40:25,695 am grateful for that much you know, everybody who's here in support of 664 00:40:25,695 --> 00:40:30,633 this resolution, please raise your hand just so everybody can see. Great. 665 00:40:30,633 --> 00:40:33,770 Thank you. Anybody here for the first time at a city council meeting? 666 00:40:33,770 --> 00:40:36,170 Excellent. Woke in shoreline 667 00:40:36,906 --> 00:40:40,443 great. Welcome. Thank you so much 668 00:40:40,443 --> 00:40:43,980 Thank you so much for your consideration. Um 669 00:40:43,980 --> 00:40:47,450 I appreciate you. Thanks. Thank you. Oh, and this 670 00:40:47,450 --> 00:40:50,586 is actually some more petition signatures. 671 00:40:50,586 --> 00:40:54,123 Thank you. Is there anyone else 672 00:40:54,123 --> 00:40:57,794 that signed up to speak at this moment? Yes, Our 673 00:40:57,794 --> 00:41:04,394 our last two are Lake Buchanan and then Jamie Lee Blake. 674 00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:09,606 Uh, I didn't know how the signups worked, so I've just 675 00:41:09,606 --> 00:41:12,942 you know, the same thing I said before, uh, I do 676 00:41:12,942 --> 00:41:13,343 want to say thank you, Councilmember Roberts for the amendment because while I was 677 00:41:13,343 --> 00:41:15,343 reading through 678 00:41:17,346 --> 00:41:21,840 the initial uh version that would those are basically my concerns, and 679 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,288 they addressed them, so I'm like, cool, good job, um, but yeah 680 00:41:25,288 --> 00:41:28,958 I agree with basically everything everyone has said. This is a no-brainer, and it 681 00:41:28,958 --> 00:41:32,495 is basically table stakes like this we need to be looking for 682 00:41:32,495 --> 00:41:37,767 more to be doing, um, I have been to a couple of 683 00:41:37,767 --> 00:41:41,638 Seattle City Council meetings. I haven't spoken at them because I don't live in Seattle 684 00:41:41,638 --> 00:41:45,410 I live in Shoreline, so I am grateful for the opportunity to Speak 685 00:41:45,410 --> 00:41:48,577 my mind on this, um, but, uh, keep 686 00:41:48,577 --> 00:41:51,447 pushing harder, more this and more. Keep going more 687 00:41:51,447 --> 00:41:53,847 do more, go more 688 00:41:55,251 --> 00:41:58,654 please It's not as eloquent if I don't write it out ahead of time 689 00:41:58,654 --> 00:42:02,254 apparently. Thank you. I agree. Welcome. 690 00:42:03,926 --> 00:42:08,130 Good evening. My name is Jamie Lee Blake. I live in Edmonds 691 00:42:08,130 --> 00:42:11,668 just over the border to the north of Shoreline, but I spend a lot of time in Shoreline. 692 00:42:11,668 --> 00:42:13,668 I came here 693 00:42:14,804 --> 00:42:17,804 anyway because IL 26-638 is 694 00:42:18,541 --> 00:42:21,611 a statewide measure and it doesn't stop at the county line 695 00:42:21,611 --> 00:42:24,110 I'm a transgender woman. 696 00:42:25,147 --> 00:42:28,618 I'm also a mom of 3 teenagers, and I've spent 20 years 697 00:42:28,618 --> 00:42:32,421 as an engineer, which mostly means I've been paid 698 00:42:32,421 --> 00:42:36,159 to read specifications closely and notice what they actually 699 00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:40,290 say, instead of what people say they say. So I read this one. 700 00:42:40,290 --> 00:42:43,432 It doesn't affect only transgender girls 701 00:42:43,432 --> 00:42:47,360 but even if it did. It would be Too much. 702 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,436 Under IL 26 638, any student 703 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,710 who wants to play a girl's sport has to produce 704 00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:58,247 a signed statement from a healthcare provider verifying her sex 705 00:42:58,247 --> 00:43:01,847 The anatomy, genetics, or testosterone levels. 706 00:43:02,117 --> 00:43:04,866 That means genital inspections for 707 00:43:04,866 --> 00:43:06,866 our 110 708 00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:12,340 girls playing middle school and high school sports in the state That's 709 00:43:12,340 --> 00:43:16,745 The sponsors of the Initiatives number, not mine. 710 00:43:16,745 --> 00:43:19,145 Every girl who wants 711 00:43:20,548 --> 00:43:24,286 to play, boys don't have to do this to play boys' sports 712 00:43:24,286 --> 00:43:28,223 and that doesn't get said as much, and I think we should think 713 00:43:28,223 --> 00:43:31,559 about that too, and what that means. Washington has had an inclusive 714 00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:34,559 policy since 2007. It's worked for 20 715 00:43:35,297 --> 00:43:38,767 years. What's changed isn't the sports, it's the politics. 716 00:43:38,767 --> 00:43:42,970 And The doctors note that this initiative requires. 717 00:43:42,970 --> 00:43:45,970 will be a burden on 718 00:43:47,241 --> 00:43:50,645 All girls trying to play sports especially the 719 00:43:50,645 --> 00:43:53,781 most marginalized. With less access to doctors 720 00:43:53,781 --> 00:43:56,781 less able to play sports. 721 00:43:57,251 --> 00:44:00,522 The girls who get questioned first won't be the 722 00:44:00,522 --> 00:44:04,125 trans ones. They will be the CIS 723 00:44:04,125 --> 00:44:07,596 ones, the ones that are a head taller than everyone else 724 00:44:07,596 --> 00:44:10,799 or have short hair, or just look to wrong 725 00:44:10,799 --> 00:44:14,999 to somebody in the stands. The same 726 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,808 instinct runs through IL 26001, which would roll back protections the legislator 727 00:44:19,808 --> 00:44:23,277 added last year after real families like mine testified about what the 728 00:44:23,277 --> 00:44:26,882 original version was doing to their kids. 729 00:44:26,882 --> 00:44:30,552 I know a city resolution doesn't change the policy or take 730 00:44:30,552 --> 00:44:34,156 anything off the ballot. I'm not confused about that, but 731 00:44:34,156 --> 00:44:37,826 when my kid is deciding whether a place is safe. 732 00:44:37,826 --> 00:44:41,229 She isn't reading state law. She's looking at what the people 733 00:44:41,229 --> 00:44:44,499 in charge were willing to say out loud. 734 00:44:44,499 --> 00:44:47,499 So please pass resolution 567, if 735 00:44:48,303 --> 00:44:52,107 you pass it, put it where people will actually see it 736 00:44:52,107 --> 00:44:55,777 the website, the newsletter, not buried in the minutes. Thank you and 737 00:44:55,777 --> 00:44:55,910 thank you again to council members Roberts and Mork for bringing this forward. Thank 738 00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:57,910 you. 739 00:44:59,781 --> 00:45:03,185 Thank you. Is there anybody else who would 740 00:45:03,185 --> 00:45:07,589 like to speak in this public comment period. 741 00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:09,589 Hello, uh, 742 00:45:10,992 --> 00:45:14,196 Um, my name's Oliver Wolf. I'm from North 743 00:45:14,196 --> 00:45:17,532 Seattle, and um. I didn't have 744 00:45:17,532 --> 00:45:21,200 a comment written out today, but um. I 745 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,539 just wanted to speak against a uh a myth that I 746 00:45:24,539 --> 00:45:27,809 haven't really heard challenged yet today. About um 747 00:45:27,809 --> 00:45:29,809 Like, This, this 748 00:45:31,213 --> 00:45:34,282 initiative kind of presupposes a long standing 749 00:45:34,282 --> 00:45:37,552 myth that cisje or that a 750 00:45:37,552 --> 00:45:40,552 transgender women have the same 751 00:45:41,890 --> 00:45:44,692 physical performance as cisgender men. Which Isn't true 752 00:45:44,692 --> 00:45:47,763 for medically transitioning trans women because 753 00:45:47,763 --> 00:45:50,763 Uh, cisgender women don't take 754 00:45:51,299 --> 00:45:54,235 testosterone blockers and transgender women 755 00:45:54,235 --> 00:45:56,635 do usually. Thank you. 756 00:45:58,573 --> 00:46:02,511 Hello, I'm, hello, my name's Violel Kawaguchi 757 00:46:02,511 --> 00:46:05,447 I'm a shoreline resident. I would also like to 758 00:46:05,447 --> 00:46:07,847 point out that people's 759 00:46:09,184 --> 00:46:12,587 hormone levels are variable depending on who they are and 760 00:46:12,587 --> 00:46:15,587 their racial background, testosterone testing 761 00:46:16,725 --> 00:46:20,529 will disproportionately affect cisgender athletes of color because cisgender athletes 762 00:46:20,529 --> 00:46:24,533 of color do on occasion have higher testosterone levels than 763 00:46:24,533 --> 00:46:28,403 average. We see this in Olympic sports. We see this in sports universally 764 00:46:28,403 --> 00:46:31,606 Behind the thin veneer of parental. Concern, there's always an air 765 00:46:31,606 --> 00:46:35,206 of racism and just the most 766 00:46:35,210 --> 00:46:38,279 vile aspects of our country hidden behind every single 767 00:46:38,279 --> 00:46:41,750 thing these people pass or want 768 00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:44,953 to pass. The bone density arguments aren't 769 00:46:44,953 --> 00:46:48,890 even like the two things that I'm 770 00:46:48,890 --> 00:46:52,361 pretty sure the vast majority of what they're harping on is, is trans 771 00:46:52,361 --> 00:46:56,564 people may have higher bone density, and we may 772 00:46:56,564 --> 00:46:59,968 develop muscle mass that we had before better because of predis 773 00:46:59,968 --> 00:47:03,839 or a pre-exposure to testosterone, these are 774 00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:07,309 very nebulous things. They are not well defined. The science is not 775 00:47:07,309 --> 00:47:10,779 there. This initiative is based on nothing and 776 00:47:10,779 --> 00:47:14,582 is purely an excuse to discriminate while giving 777 00:47:14,582 --> 00:47:18,319 nebulous actors, unlimited access to your children under the 778 00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:21,856 guise of keeping them safe. Anyone who is an advocate for 779 00:47:21,856 --> 00:47:25,259 this, anyone who wants this, I would greatly be concerned 780 00:47:25,259 --> 00:47:29,640 about even having that person in my like 781 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,801 group of people, I assume. associate with because on its front 782 00:47:32,801 --> 00:47:36,337 there's nothing about this that even makes any sense to anyone 783 00:47:36,337 --> 00:47:40,700 who knows, like a basic amount of anatomy or 784 00:47:40,700 --> 00:47:42,410 like science as a trans person, when I started HRT 11 years 785 00:47:42,410 --> 00:47:46,800 ago, within months, you want to know what my T levels were 786 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,800 ? 17 nanograms per deciliter. That is 787 00:47:49,483 --> 00:47:53,754 significantly below the level of a cis woman 788 00:47:53,754 --> 00:47:56,230 Like these, their arguments don't make sense. They are not seen out in the science 789 00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:59,961 They're not seen out in the performance statistics, one of the most. 790 00:47:59,961 --> 00:48:02,961 the largest anti-trans and sports 791 00:48:03,698 --> 00:48:07,768 advocates Riley Gaines loves to talk about how a 792 00:48:07,768 --> 00:48:11,238 trans person beat her without telling everyone that this trans person didn't 793 00:48:11,238 --> 00:48:15,430 win the race, and Riley Gaines was 3rd, so like 794 00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:18,913 these people are just losers. They're losers 795 00:48:18,913 --> 00:48:22,450 and they want to discriminate against people of color and trans 796 00:48:22,450 --> 00:48:26,530 people and people who they perceive as getting something 797 00:48:26,530 --> 00:48:29,791 that they didn't earn, but they really earned it. 798 00:48:29,791 --> 00:48:33,194 So please do the bare minimum as this gentleman in orange said 799 00:48:33,194 --> 00:48:36,931 and passed this resolution and as a trans 800 00:48:36,931 --> 00:48:40,668 person of color in shoreline, I will say walking to the 801 00:48:40,668 --> 00:48:44,539 one line station right over there. I have had people like yell 802 00:48:44,539 --> 00:48:48,276 at me outside of their cars. I've had people yell racial slurs 803 00:48:48,276 --> 00:48:51,880 at me, old decrepit man in a Charlie Kirk shirt and a MAGA hat 804 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,483 like yelling the teas slur at me. This is like real 805 00:48:55,483 --> 00:48:58,486 like people in Seattle are harassed daily for being trans. 806 00:48:58,486 --> 00:49:00,886 This needs to stop. 807 00:49:03,290 --> 00:49:08,290 Thank you. Is there any other public comment tonight? 808 00:49:08,290 --> 00:49:11,298 Seen none, I will close public comment 809 00:49:11,298 --> 00:49:14,898 and we'll move to counsel action. 810 00:49:15,984 --> 00:49:19,454 Councilmember Roberts, thank you, Presiding Officer 811 00:49:19,454 --> 00:49:22,858 Mark. Uh, I move adoption of resolution number 812 00:49:22,858 --> 00:49:25,727 567 with the amendments that I have proposed. 813 00:49:25,727 --> 00:49:27,727 Second, Motion 814 00:49:29,998 --> 00:49:33,268 in a second. Would you like to speak to your motion, Councilor Roberts. 815 00:49:33,268 --> 00:49:36,868 Uh thank you, Councilmember Mork for 816 00:49:36,938 --> 00:49:40,609 uh, sponsoring this and getting this on the agenda, um. 817 00:49:40,609 --> 00:49:44,209 We have adopted in this council 818 00:49:44,613 --> 00:49:47,750 on this dio, multiple resolutions saying that Shoreland needs to be a 819 00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:50,750 welcoming space for everyone. We 820 00:49:51,687 --> 00:49:53,687 uh, for everyone 821 00:49:54,957 --> 00:49:57,957 for LGBTQIA plus individuals specifically 822 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,360 uh, this is, I think 823 00:50:01,897 --> 00:50:05,100 a continuation of that, those series of resolutions 824 00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:09,104 and because we need to be, and 825 00:50:09,104 --> 00:50:12,974 we ought to be a place where people feel safe. We want people to live here 826 00:50:12,974 --> 00:50:16,845 We want people to feel comfortable uh working here. We want people 827 00:50:16,845 --> 00:50:20,315 comfortable going to school here, and that's something that we. 828 00:50:20,315 --> 00:50:23,986 As elected leaders of this city ought to continue 829 00:50:23,986 --> 00:50:27,255 to push for. As we've heard from public comment, we 830 00:50:27,255 --> 00:50:31,326 are not there yet. There are too many 831 00:50:31,326 --> 00:50:35,630 people, there are too many people who are facing discrimination in their daily 832 00:50:35,630 --> 00:50:38,133 lives. Too many people who face discrimination just existing. 833 00:50:38,133 --> 00:50:41,336 Um, that is a problem. We 834 00:50:41,336 --> 00:50:44,730 and we have a moral responsibility 835 00:50:44,730 --> 00:50:47,609 to say no, that's not what we want, that's not the 836 00:50:47,609 --> 00:50:51,213 values that we want to see in in shoreline. 837 00:50:51,213 --> 00:50:55,283 Now I know that um we do need to do better. 838 00:50:55,283 --> 00:50:58,753 I mean, I, and I think that some of the advocates 839 00:50:58,753 --> 00:51:02,910 who are speaking here today, talking about how 840 00:51:02,910 --> 00:51:05,360 do we make sure that and how do we provide 841 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,960 the resources that people need, so 842 00:51:09,565 --> 00:51:13,701 that that is something we ought to sort of, that's something we need to strive for. It's 843 00:51:13,701 --> 00:51:17,639 not something on our agenda tonight, but that's something we need to continue 844 00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:21,430 to strive for is how do we protect our residents? How do we make sure 845 00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:24,646 that our residents get the support they need. And 846 00:51:24,646 --> 00:51:28,917 It's hard. It is hard to be a child in 847 00:51:28,917 --> 00:51:31,986 This world today. It's especially hard if 848 00:51:31,986 --> 00:51:34,386 they are in transitioning 849 00:51:35,390 --> 00:51:38,794 have transitioned. It is a scary, it is 850 00:51:38,794 --> 00:51:42,331 scary, so individuals who decide and make the 851 00:51:42,331 --> 00:51:45,467 decision to transition, that is not an 852 00:51:45,467 --> 00:51:49,670 easy decision. That is a tough. 853 00:51:49,338 --> 00:51:51,738 Tough, tough. Decision that 854 00:51:53,542 --> 00:51:57,946 people have to make. It is if you are. 855 00:51:57,946 --> 00:51:59,946 People It is 856 00:52:02,417 --> 00:52:05,821 Facing people who do decide to transition 857 00:52:05,821 --> 00:52:08,821 sadly faced this additional discrimination. 858 00:52:08,824 --> 00:52:12,424 They, uh, um, as I said 859 00:52:12,428 --> 00:52:15,764 it's harder, the studies have shown that individuals who 860 00:52:15,764 --> 00:52:18,900 a harder time trying to find work. 861 00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:21,900 That individuals who are trans. 862 00:52:24,106 --> 00:52:27,375 Struggle with lots of things in their daily lives. It's not something 863 00:52:27,375 --> 00:52:30,846 people take lightly if they are in 864 00:52:30,846 --> 00:52:35,117 transition. And it's our job as a country, we should 865 00:52:35,117 --> 00:52:35,383 be letting people live the lives they want to live. If they should not, people should 866 00:52:35,383 --> 00:52:37,383 not 867 00:52:39,540 --> 00:52:42,591 be discriminated against because of the choices that they 868 00:52:42,591 --> 00:52:46,795 make, how they live their lives because individuals 869 00:52:46,795 --> 00:52:50,532 Just want to live, they just want to live their lives. They they want to feel, well, say 870 00:52:50,532 --> 00:52:54,200 feel protected. They want to be supported by their community. 871 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,806 They want to be supported in their schools. 872 00:52:57,806 --> 00:53:01,760 These are things that people want. These are basic needs that people 873 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,613 uh, people want and. It's sad to 874 00:53:04,613 --> 00:53:08,149 see that there are people in this state who want to 875 00:53:08,149 --> 00:53:11,219 enshrine discrimination in our laws. As was said 876 00:53:11,219 --> 00:53:13,619 uh, the initiative around 877 00:53:14,489 --> 00:53:17,489 Sports, it is not the 878 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,163 small handful of trans youth who are participating in sports who are going 879 00:53:22,163 --> 00:53:25,434 to be affected by it. It is going to be the people who are 880 00:53:25,434 --> 00:53:29,360 as was described, uh, as Jamie said 881 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,174 correctly, it's the people who are, it's the people 882 00:53:33,174 --> 00:53:36,511 women of color who are a head taller, who have a a little bit stronger muscle mass 883 00:53:36,511 --> 00:53:40,111 who are seemingly better than everyone 884 00:53:40,715 --> 00:53:44,252 else on the field, who they're the ones who are going to be questioned. That's been 885 00:53:44,252 --> 00:53:48,657 That's been questioned every time for hundreds of years. 886 00:53:48,657 --> 00:53:51,570 Thousands of years. That 887 00:53:52,861 --> 00:53:56,397 is really the people who are going to be affected by this 888 00:53:56,397 --> 00:54:00,335 because it is invasive, and it is discriminatory that 889 00:54:00,335 --> 00:54:04,205 One gender is going to be affected by this, while 890 00:54:04,205 --> 00:54:07,750 another gender is not. That is wrong. Clean 891 00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:09,750 flat wrong. 892 00:54:10,545 --> 00:54:14,682 And then we need to, I mean, the 893 00:54:14,682 --> 00:54:18,286 school counselors, the teachers they know how important this is They know how 894 00:54:18,286 --> 00:54:21,957 important the schools need to be a safe space for everyone 895 00:54:21,957 --> 00:54:25,427 That an ideal world, yes, you should be able to talk 896 00:54:25,427 --> 00:54:29,300 to your parents about who you are and what your true 897 00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:32,634 identity is. That's important, but schools also are 898 00:54:32,634 --> 00:54:36,171 a safe space, need to be a safe space for people. And 899 00:54:36,171 --> 00:54:39,841 this law makes the schools not a safe space. It makes it 900 00:54:39,841 --> 00:54:43,377 a hostile space that anything that 901 00:54:43,377 --> 00:54:46,715 you say can suddenly go right back to a parent. A a 902 00:54:46,715 --> 00:54:50,184 parent who may or may not be supportive. 903 00:54:50,184 --> 00:54:53,588 A parent who may be willing to throw their 904 00:54:53,588 --> 00:54:56,658 child out. We know that and studies show 905 00:54:56,658 --> 00:55:00,258 that people are in who are 906 00:55:01,863 --> 00:55:05,800 kids who are transitioning, who have transitioned, they're the ones who are 907 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,804 more likely, are very likely to be homeless. They're the more likely to 908 00:55:08,804 --> 00:55:11,204 run away. If either 909 00:55:12,740 --> 00:55:16,277 two unfortunately, 2 homelessness or to some other place. And I think for 910 00:55:16,277 --> 00:55:19,815 the people who are, have opened their homes and let 911 00:55:19,815 --> 00:55:23,218 people in and recognize and celebrate who they are 912 00:55:23,218 --> 00:55:27,237 as individuals and not because of us. 913 00:55:27,237 --> 00:55:30,508 So I encouraged and implore my colleagues to 914 00:55:30,508 --> 00:55:33,711 support this, um, and I hope that if 915 00:55:33,711 --> 00:55:37,311 this passes, that the people of 916 00:55:37,648 --> 00:55:41,585 Washington state agree with me and say that this is wrong. These are 917 00:55:41,585 --> 00:55:44,922 not Washington values. These are not shoreline values. So, thank you. 918 00:55:44,922 --> 00:55:46,922 Councilmember Mark. Thank 919 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,863 you, Councilmember Scully. Thanks, and I'll keep this short because this, this is a 920 00:55:52,863 --> 00:55:56,867 slam dunk and what's been said tonight is, is all true. So I'm 921 00:55:56,867 --> 00:56:01,720 I'm bisexual. My part of the rainbow is fairly safe, but I've got a lot of 922 00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:04,608 close friends who are trans, and at age 53, most of my trans friends transitioned a long 923 00:56:04,608 --> 00:56:04,875 time ago, and so they have watched the world get progressively brighter, and 924 00:56:04,875 --> 00:56:06,875 it's 925 00:56:09,146 --> 00:56:12,682 Very unfortunate that they may see the world start to get more dim 926 00:56:12,682 --> 00:56:16,887 with initiatives like this. I just want to share 927 00:56:16,887 --> 00:56:20,891 11 life experience. I had the unfortunate life experience of explaining how difficult it 928 00:56:20,891 --> 00:56:24,495 was to be trans to someone who later turned out to be a trans man, so I 929 00:56:24,495 --> 00:56:28,232 mansplained being trans to a trans man, which is like meta 930 00:56:28,232 --> 00:56:32,302 um, but he's a big bearded dude and I found out he 931 00:56:32,302 --> 00:56:36,373 was trans when he got really upset at signature gatherers on a ferry for the 932 00:56:36,373 --> 00:56:36,774 bathroom band that we, we dealt with years ago, and he said, look, he told me he was trans 933 00:56:36,774 --> 00:56:38,774 and he said 934 00:56:40,911 --> 00:56:44,448 look, this is Homer S for me. I can't leave the house because if I go into a women's room. 935 00:56:44,448 --> 00:56:47,852 room, look at me. There will be screams if I go into 936 00:56:47,852 --> 00:56:51,989 a men's room, you know, that's, you 937 00:56:51,989 --> 00:56:56,193 know, that that's, that's not where I want to be. It's not safe for me to be there. So 938 00:56:56,193 --> 00:57:00,197 I've spent a lot of time talking to folks, not only in Shoreland, but in surrounding 939 00:57:00,197 --> 00:57:03,333 communities, and the good news is there is a strong trans community here, and 940 00:57:03,333 --> 00:57:03,601 what makes my heart glad is when I meet someone who's trans and the households next to them 941 00:57:03,601 --> 00:57:05,601 are 942 00:57:07,672 --> 00:57:11,742 all flying pride flags, even though they are not part of that community, they're just 943 00:57:11,742 --> 00:57:15,613 showing solidarity. The bad news is there is a lot of misunderstanding about. 944 00:57:15,613 --> 00:57:19,350 What these bills are. It's usually posed around safety, which is 945 00:57:19,350 --> 00:57:23,870 ridiculous. And what misses the point is, this isn't aimed at 946 00:57:23,870 --> 00:57:26,690 adults, right? The first measure is aimed at children. And for 947 00:57:26,690 --> 00:57:30,494 me it's especially invidious because it tells a 12 year 948 00:57:30,494 --> 00:57:34,565 old girl that her body has to pass inspection, usually by a man 949 00:57:34,565 --> 00:57:37,634 before she's allowed to participate. I mean that that's that's like 1,80s 950 00:57:37,634 --> 00:57:40,340 1700s thinking. The other 951 00:57:41,639 --> 00:57:45,176 measure about school counselors and and medical professionals. When my 952 00:57:45,176 --> 00:57:45,443 daughter was 12, she cut her hair short and started wearing different clothes, and I 953 00:57:45,443 --> 00:57:47,443 thought 954 00:57:49,513 --> 00:57:52,583 huh, and she told me years later that she had been questioning her gender 955 00:57:52,583 --> 00:57:52,917 identity, and she wasn't ready to talk to me about it. That doesn't make me a bad parent, 956 00:57:52,917 --> 00:57:54,917 that doesn't mean 957 00:57:56,987 --> 00:57:57,388 we have a bad relationship. She just wasn't ready to share with her dad that she was 958 00:57:57,388 --> 00:57:59,388 questioning who 959 00:58:00,925 --> 00:58:04,328 she was. So no kid should be, should know that there is 960 00:58:04,328 --> 00:58:04,461 no safe space, right? There should always be a safe space. All this has been said. Thank 961 00:58:04,461 --> 00:58:06,461 you 962 00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:08,732 for coming, and I'm actually familiar with the Kawaguchi O'Connor Initiative, and thank 963 00:58:08,732 --> 00:58:10,732 you 964 00:58:12,536 --> 00:58:16,273 for doing that. It's making a big difference to a lot of people. 965 00:58:16,273 --> 00:58:18,273 CouncilmanRadamasu. Thank you 966 00:58:20,744 --> 00:58:23,744 Councilmember Mork and Roberts for 967 00:58:24,615 --> 00:58:27,951 bringing this resolution. I'm in full support of the resolution 968 00:58:27,951 --> 00:58:31,488 and I want to every person that physically 969 00:58:31,488 --> 00:58:34,291 came here and Spoke from 970 00:58:34,291 --> 00:58:36,291 your heart and 971 00:58:38,829 --> 00:58:41,829 touched me greatly, um, So, 972 00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:47,700 I just want to reiterate, I oppose 973 00:58:48,380 --> 00:58:51,508 the initiative regarding youth participation in 974 00:58:51,508 --> 00:58:55,450 athletics. It is wrong to victimize trans youth. 975 00:58:55,450 --> 00:58:58,782 And this initiative, as we all know 976 00:58:58,782 --> 00:59:02,319 will subject girls who wish to play sports 977 00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:05,856 in kindergarten through senior year in high school to 978 00:59:05,856 --> 00:59:09,259 the additional medical evaluations. I also oppose 979 00:59:09,259 --> 00:59:12,996 the initiative about parental rights is not 980 00:59:12,996 --> 00:59:16,667 all students are safe at home, and I believe that all students 981 00:59:16,667 --> 00:59:20,603 need safe spaces to talk about private issues that 982 00:59:20,603 --> 00:59:24,740 they are dealing with, and I want to surround everyone with protection and 983 00:59:24,740 --> 00:59:28,274 love. Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember Snyder. 984 00:59:28,611 --> 00:59:32,149 I'll, I'll do my best to 985 00:59:32,149 --> 00:59:35,752 articulate all of the many thoughts, and I, first 986 00:59:35,752 --> 00:59:39,156 of all, I appreciate everyone who showed up today and who 987 00:59:39,156 --> 00:59:42,960 spoke and also for council members, uh, Mork 988 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,363 and Roberts for Paying attention to what's going on, um. 989 00:59:46,363 --> 00:59:49,699 Uh, I grew up playing sports 990 00:59:49,699 --> 00:59:52,969 My sisters played sports. We all 991 00:59:52,969 --> 00:59:56,372 played softball, um, all through high 992 00:59:56,372 --> 01:00:00,110 school and and uh and even into college 993 01:00:00,110 --> 01:00:02,510 um, uh. You know 994 01:00:03,981 --> 01:00:07,581 the, they weren't always straight. Many 995 01:00:07,651 --> 01:00:10,721 of the players were, were not, and you get questioned 996 01:00:10,721 --> 01:00:13,721 about that, but Those are 997 01:00:14,591 --> 01:00:17,594 our people. I mean that that there's no other way to say it. I mean 998 01:00:17,594 --> 01:00:20,864 uh, they kick at us, so, um. 999 01:00:20,864 --> 01:00:24,401 Uh, All I can think about with 1000 01:00:24,401 --> 01:00:27,938 with this regards to the the the initial 1001 01:00:27,938 --> 01:00:31,408 bill about girls' sports, uh, it's, you know 1002 01:00:31,408 --> 01:00:34,411 it's invasive, it's perverse, it's just 1003 01:00:34,411 --> 01:00:38,110 brings to mind. Uh, you know 1004 01:00:38,548 --> 01:00:41,485 Doctor Larry Nassar, who was convicted of, you know 1005 01:00:41,485 --> 01:00:43,885 molesting all of these 1006 01:00:45,220 --> 01:00:48,358 uh, gymnasts, uh, well sometimes while their 1007 01:00:48,358 --> 01:00:51,828 parents are standing in the room. And um, 1008 01:00:51,828 --> 01:00:54,228 So subjecting girls and 1009 01:00:56,330 --> 01:00:59,502 in trans kids. These are girls. These 1010 01:00:59,502 --> 01:01:03,440 are kids to anything short, you know, or a 1011 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,910 some kind of pelvic exam in 1012 01:01:06,910 --> 01:01:09,910 order to decide whether they're 1013 01:01:10,380 --> 01:01:13,583 qualified to play sports. I, I mean, it's, it's 1014 01:01:13,583 --> 01:01:16,583 it's insidious and and it's 1015 01:01:17,187 --> 01:01:21,191 thinly veiled, uh, or it's some kind of attempt to 1016 01:01:21,191 --> 01:01:24,327 be legitimized by using some kind of term 1017 01:01:24,327 --> 01:01:26,727 like family values, fairness 1018 01:01:27,464 --> 01:01:29,464 in sports, uh. 1019 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,200 Parental rights, uh, in, in. 1020 01:01:34,485 --> 01:01:38,156 When I hear those terms, I just kind 1021 01:01:38,156 --> 01:01:41,959 of brace myself because here comes another non-issue making. 1022 01:01:41,959 --> 01:01:45,230 It's way as so as though it's some kind of an issue 1023 01:01:45,230 --> 01:01:48,230 and it really, really isn't 1024 01:01:48,299 --> 01:01:51,899 um, and I'm, I'm very pleased 1025 01:01:52,170 --> 01:01:55,373 that uh that this is, we're starting. 1026 01:01:55,373 --> 01:01:58,777 With this baseline is Mr. Steele 1027 01:01:58,777 --> 01:02:00,777 mentioned earlier, um, 1028 01:02:02,714 --> 01:02:06,184 And like everything, like they say, safety first, and that has also 1029 01:02:06,184 --> 01:02:10,255 has to do with the, with the 26001 1030 01:02:10,255 --> 01:02:13,724 um, initiative that's going to show up, kids don't 1031 01:02:13,724 --> 01:02:16,861 always feel safe at home. They need to feel 1032 01:02:16,861 --> 01:02:19,931 safe at school talking to a 1033 01:02:19,931 --> 01:02:23,601 counselor and um I I know from 1034 01:02:23,601 --> 01:02:27,338 kids going, even going to to therapy, you 1035 01:02:27,338 --> 01:02:30,742 you hit that 13 year old Mark and, and you can't even uh. 1036 01:02:30,742 --> 01:02:33,142 log in onto some 1037 01:02:33,812 --> 01:02:37,412 kind of medical to pay the 1038 01:02:37,682 --> 01:02:41,485 they're entitled to that privacy. It's not to be shared 1039 01:02:41,485 --> 01:02:45,220 with their parents unless they decide they want to share it with 1040 01:02:45,220 --> 01:02:48,560 their parents, and um And that needs to be maintained 1041 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,830 at our schools as well. So, um. 1042 01:02:51,830 --> 01:02:55,233 Again, there's there's a uh, we 1043 01:02:55,233 --> 01:02:58,836 have a ways to go and um But 1044 01:02:58,836 --> 01:03:02,640 this is a, you have to start somewhere. Thank you. 1045 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,640 Thank you. um. Thank you 1046 01:03:06,444 --> 01:03:09,513 all for coming. Makes a big difference 1047 01:03:09,513 --> 01:03:12,513 to know that there are 1048 01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:16,788 people who support what we are trying 1049 01:03:16,788 --> 01:03:20,458 to do. Councilmember Roberts, thank you for improving the, um 1050 01:03:20,458 --> 01:03:23,928 Resolution And I think I don't 1051 01:03:23,928 --> 01:03:27,399 have anything new to say. You have covered it 1052 01:03:27,399 --> 01:03:31,690 all, really appreciate it. Uh, now we're at the 1053 01:03:31,690 --> 01:03:34,690 point to vote on this 1054 01:03:34,472 --> 01:03:38,209 resolution. Um, is there any more discussion, or? 1055 01:03:38,209 --> 01:03:41,679 Will the clerk please call them ? I believe 1056 01:03:41,679 --> 01:03:45,160 the motion is on the amendment first and then. 1057 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,886 I thought that's what uh moved with 1058 01:03:48,886 --> 01:03:52,223 his amendment. OK, let's get into the motion. So no, that's all 1059 01:03:52,223 --> 01:03:55,693 right. OK. Though thought we had done that 1060 01:03:55,693 --> 01:03:58,830 uh, so will the clerk please call the vote. 1061 01:03:58,830 --> 01:04:01,230 Uh, Councilmember Snyder. Hi 1062 01:04:02,767 --> 01:04:04,767 Councilmember Roberts. Councilmember 1063 01:04:06,437 --> 01:04:10,637 Ademasu, Councilmember Mark, a Councilmember Scully, aye. 1064 01:04:10,975 --> 01:04:13,375 Thank you. Passed unanimously 1065 01:04:14,512 --> 01:04:19,912 5 to 0. With that, this meeting is adjourned. Thank you.