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>>I would like to call the May 2022

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shoreline city Council meeting to

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order. These call the roll.

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>>Next item is approval of the

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agenda. Are there any suggested

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changes to the agenda? Councilmember

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>>Thank you, I would like to pull 7

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off the consent calendar.

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>>Item 7 I will be pulled and made

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action item 8A.

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>>Thank you.

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>>Are there any other requested

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changes to the agenda?Miss Terry?

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Okay, alright picking other requested

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changes to the agenda? Seeing no

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objections the agenda will be adopted

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as proposed. Next item's report of

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the city attorney.

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>>Thank you, Mayor and Council.

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Interim shoreline police chief Ryan

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Abbott invites you to join him for

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coffee at Caf aroma on Wednesday,

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May 25 from 11 AM to 12 PM. It is an

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opportunity for you to meet shoreline

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police officers and then in an

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informal setting, ask questions,

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express concerns, and build

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relationships. If you can't make

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this event we plan on more coffees at

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different locations throughout the

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year. Stop by, grab some coffee,

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talk to the chief.The location for

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Caf aroma is 509 NE. 165th St.

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Beginning May 29, you can explore the

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fascinating world of marine beaches

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during low tide with volunteer beach

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naturalist in these fun free and

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informative beach explorations in

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saltwater part. You can dress for

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the weather, weatherproof footwear is

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recommended and you can get the dates

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and times and more

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information@shorelinewa.gov/low tide.

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From June 4 to October 1 and will be

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there from 10 AM to 2 PM. The market

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offers a variety of fresh Washington

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produce and organic meats and

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showcases local farms, artisans, and

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musicians.Shop for local produce,

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berries, and an array of tempting

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treats. Snap cards are accepted,

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many member vendors except WIC and

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senior FM in PHX. The popular pop

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club is back introducing kids to this

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easily and the magic of produce. You

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can visit shoreline farmers

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market.org for all the details.

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And join walk leader Donna

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neighborhood in bowling Creek Park on

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Saturday, June 4, at 10 AM. The

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walks program is free and designed

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for adults ages 50+ but open to all

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ages and abilities. No need to sign

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up, just show up on Saturday at 10 AM

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The state of the community breakfasts

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and civic leaders are invited to

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attend. This will be an opportunity

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to celebrate the city's

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accomplishments and look forward to

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the future. The event is 3 on June 9

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but space is limited. Call

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A few public reminders, the parked

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recreation cultural servicesWill hold

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a remote meeting on Thursday, May 26

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at 7 PM and the plan commission

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meeting originally scheduled for June

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2 has been canceled.An honorable

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boreal day, City Hall will be closed

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on Monday, May 30, there will be no

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Council meeting and the next Council

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>>Thank you, Miss Terry. Next up is

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Council reports. Any Council reports?

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>>Thank you, Mayor. I have a few

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reportsTo provide. On May 11 I

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attended the shoreline Rotary club

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breakfast meeting and at the meeting

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filled with the Homestead community

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land trust provided a PowerPoint

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presentation on the program. I

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walked away very impressed with the

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program, the trust provides

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affordable homeownership

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opportunities for families 50 to 80%

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of any of my. And couple of things

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owns the land and the buyers purchase

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the structure, so it provides an

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opportunity for to purchase homes

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between the price range between

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$224,000 and $378,000. This from

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freeze families from the worry of

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displacement as renters. The homer

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can use the equity built to purchase

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a market rate on the future, so far

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the land trust has created

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opportunities for 235 homes that are

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currently listed in the trust and

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what's impressive is that 50% and %

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are owned by (INAUDIBLE) families and

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for closure rate is less than 1%.

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On 14 May I attended the leadership

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meeting. That meeting they elected

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to new cochairs, Nathan Hawkins and

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Michelle Moyes. They are planning

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during the meeting for them

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(INAUDIBLE) against crime and also

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there is much interest in the

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development of the park, especially

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with the recent influx of young

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families with children who have moved

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the neighborhood will be hosting a be

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Nicholas Borg to start a conversation

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about part. On 16 May I attended

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meeting with folks the staff andBoard

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members with the north urban human

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services alliance. And their primary

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concern during our conversation was

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they are concerned about the future

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of the oats enhance shelter, the

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current contract ends in the middle

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of 2023 and they are having a little

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bit of frustration finding out

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information from community services

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about what the status of the shelter

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will be. I will be meeting withWill

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co-spurn from solid brown and Katie

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June 6 is a follow-up. Thank you,

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>>Thank you. Please keep us posted

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on those things. Happy Mayor

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>>Thank you, Mayor, I will give a

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brief update on the regional transit

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committee that Took Pl., May 18.

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Quickly, year-over-year ridership on

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last year so things are returning you

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have heard it before but the new Orca

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programLuxturna 16. There've been a

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few hiccups but if anyone is

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experiencing hick ups with their orca

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card you don't need a new one, just

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proposal to reduce youth fairs on

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Metro 20. Stay tune for more

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information about that. In the main

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reportWhich looks at the cost to

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regional plan. I guess the King

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sources and engagement strategies

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they will have moving forward is

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beastly very long conference of and

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available to them we can certainly do

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that. But the meeting, things are

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progressing and coming back for

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Metro. Thanks.

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>>Thank you, Deputy Mayor.

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>>Thank you, Mayor. I attended the

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Zoom meeting for domestic violence

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initiative a few weeks ago, and I

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promising thatThey found out what

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probably should not be a surprise

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that there are resources out there

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but the access to them are broken

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cultural barrier, etc. Can so the

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caucus met afterwards and usually

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for change I get really excited and

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give them theLet's do whatever we can

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of the legal system because they

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don't know how to. And there isn't

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we found out is those people need to

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people who are attorneys but they are

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still in schoolSo will be a little

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cheaper, but their real function is

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to hold victims hands so that they

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restraining orders, etc. Because

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this is a real big problem for women

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color because they don't know how to

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which people haven't mentioned, but I

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was very happy to attend the short

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leg parks gala with almost everybody

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on this council, so shame on you for

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not patting yourself on the back.

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shows up for the community. It was a

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of the few people that regularly put

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then put my mascot again because of

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family and health issues. But I

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still was excited that they finally

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had a new person auction, so thank

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you again for, I got to have the

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superintendent with us, so I was

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pretty excited, She is so new that I

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weeks before that, so I just reached

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out to her and said are you coming,

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if you are, come join us. So thank

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you all for showing up and hopefully

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we will do it again next year. Thank

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>>Thank you. Are there other

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councilmembers?Councilmember Mork?

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foresee the King County climate

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change Consortium town hall which was

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led by Rod Dembo ski and the main

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topics were the addition of 2 new

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cities, ball full in Maple Valley to

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the consortium and then we also

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relationships between people feeling

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safe on the road whether they're

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councilmembers?I attended a meeting

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of the late Ballenger forum and we

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WashDOT who was making the creek that

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leads up to Lake Ballenger Salmon

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accessibleUnder I-5 which is a pretty

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intense impressive project, they are

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doing with the boring machine because

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there's not a way to cut it and cover

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on I-5. There are some concerns from

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our neighbors to the east about

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downstream flooding. I'm hopeful we

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can work those out because I

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obviously want to protect everyone in

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our region from the impact of

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flooding the same time we're having's

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such a tough time with the salmon P

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whatever we can do for them it's our

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obligation to do so. I'm delighted

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to announce that representative Paul

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has included funding for our

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Ballenger Creek potential restoration

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project which should make that

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particular creek fish passable up to

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partners blog, part of a funding

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request to the White House. That's

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step one, we got a lot of steps to go

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through before we get that funding

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and even that is only step one

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because that gets us a Corps of

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Engineers grant to come up with a

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plan to make that particular passage

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of the creek not only fish passable

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but environmentally friendly and

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debris in the spring and cover next

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to it and all the rest. I'm excited

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about that. Any project that helps

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us impact the environment make it

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better is something we should care a

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lot about. I hope those 2 can move

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forward. And other reports?All right.

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Next up is public comment, this is

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opportunity for the public to address

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us on items on the agenda or items of

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concern. If 19 people signed up

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tonight so that limits us to 2

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minutes per person and it also puts

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us beyond the 30 minutes per member.

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Rather any, councilmember Roberts?

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>>I move that we spend our Council

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rules and allow all 19 individuals

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who joined up to speak to speak for 2

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minutes, please.

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>>Thank you.

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>>Are there any objections to that

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motion? Seeing no objections, the

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motion passes unanimously in all 19

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people have 2 minutes to speak. We

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asked of these person addresses with

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their name and city of residence and

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please proceed for 2 minutes. Ms.

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Hardy, we go ahead and minister

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public comment? I'm sorry, Miss

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Simulcik Smith?

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>>Yes, Mayor. Our 1st speaker this

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evening is Richard

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:.And he will be with us in just

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one moment.Mr. kink, go ahead when

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you are ready, please.

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>>Can year me? Thank you. TodayI

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submitted public comment to the

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Council about eminent domain action

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by the city of Seattle over a street

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in on Lake Washington. As a brief

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recap in 2015 the city offered 100,

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$400,000 under threat of eminent

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domain, and 2019 the city wins in

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court and pays the property owners

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$800,000. A couple of interesting

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Points about this propertyIn the

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Seattle Times August 2015 article the

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tone of the city wasTo take it or

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you'll be lucky to get half as the

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article points out and waterfront is

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listed for only $119,000. Ultimately

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Seattle paid twiceTheir offer. With

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regards to parcel 0905 there are a

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lot of unknown variables that could

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dramatically affect the acquisition

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costs. Interestingly the appraiser

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told the property owner that they had

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not physically viewed the parcel.

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While there are conflicting surveys

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on the land side of parcel 0905,

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there is no survey of 0905 and

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accordingly needs to be surveyed to

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determine total Upland's entitlements.

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Also there is an issue with the south

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facing bulkhead that appears to be

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within parcel 0905 within the

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Shoreline Master program

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single-family residence our preferred

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use had the bulkheads are noted as

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necessary to protect the home and

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property. Additionally there are

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public access regulations within the

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Shoreline Master program that appear

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not to have been addressed regarding

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this parcel. Request, excuse me,

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respectfully, I request council table

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ordinance 967 and get the property

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owners permission to do a proper

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survey of the parcel and from the

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survey negotiate with the parcel

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owner to result any bulkhead issues.

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Thank you for your time.

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>>Thank you, Mr.

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:.

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>>Our next speaker is Brian Chow.

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>>Hello, can you hear me?

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>>Yes, please go ahead whenever

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you're ready.

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>>Thank you for your time, it's Brian

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Callen I live on 27 27th Ave. NW. I

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am also calling to discuss my

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feelings about ordinance 967. I

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understand the feeling behind it, I

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am not opposed per se to the idea of

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public use of the beach as there are

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people who come down and use that

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Beach already from time to time.

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However, I feel like there are a lot

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of issues that could to be have yet

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to be addressed in the ordinance. I

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found out about this yesterday or

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just last week and the fact that this

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process seems to be really speeding

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through from offerOf purchase from

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the cityTo the current owner to the

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boat potentially in June it's like

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almost less than month, and I feel

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like doing this without any sort of

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meaningful dialogue with the biggest

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stakeholders of this purchase, the

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people on the street, seems troubling

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to me. Again, rich kind of brought

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up the S&P. The SMP as you knows a

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shoreline master program which

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governs development of any property

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within 200 feet of the high watermark

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which this parcel falls under.

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These, there is a public access

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element within the S&P and there's a

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few things that are written there

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that I don't think of been really

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addressed at all. Really the biggest

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thing talks about how any sort of

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public access has to be made barrier

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free for people with disabilities,

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any access in any public access as to

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be connected to the nearest street,

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so the near street is either my

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street which ends that a private road

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before it hits the beach orIt's NW.

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195th St. There's going to be a lot

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of money tied up making this public

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accessible less required by the SMP

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and it just I am just concerned there

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hasn't been a real good survey of the

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cost going to be necessary to make

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this comply with regulations. I

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appreciate your time and thank you

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for giving me the opportunity.

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>>Thank you, Mr. Chow.

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>>Next up is Jim McCurdy.

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>>Good evening, trust you can hear

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me?

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>>Yes, go ahead whenever you're

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ready.

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>>I am Jim(INAUDIBLE)

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>>We lost Mr. McCurdy. Is it

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possible you muted him?

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>>That was my fault, let me get him

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back real quick. Sorry about that.

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>>No worries.Let's reset the time.

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>>Here we go here, right.

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>>I apologize, your time is restarted

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and that was a an error. I

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apologize.

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>>I also live on (INAUDIBLE) also

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known as (INAUDIBLE) Avenue. I

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recently had the pleasure of turning

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the cityOn the financial

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sustainability advisory committee,

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they reviewed the finances and

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budgets and made recommendations

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place a levy on the fall ballot.

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During this process I have found

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working with the city to be

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collaborative, inclusive, and

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transparent. It is a pleasure to

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work on that. But I am not seeing as

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the (INAUDIBLE) south of us is not

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collaborative include (INAUDIBLE) a

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landgrab without due process. The

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main questions any of us are asking

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about of have all parties been

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brought into the discussion?Fire

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department, emergency access,There

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are issues in the summer, So forth

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Will it be patrolled, what about

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Private property to get there,Public

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access in terms of ADA access to the

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bulkhead at the end, I think there's,

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We basically have just come to a

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conclusion we would like to ask you

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to delay any vote on this while we

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have all discussed(INAUDIBLE).

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>>Thank you, Mr. McCurdy.

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>>Next up is Nathan Beard.

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>>Thank you. My name is Nathan Beard

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and I'm the president of the

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preservation Association, the

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nonprofit representing the folks on

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27th Ave. NW. and like the other

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folks mentioned our Street(INAUDIBLE)

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967 would condemn peer queers the

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city to postpone any consideration of

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this ordinance while we appreciate

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the goal of expanding parklets, the

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city should not vote on acquiring

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this particular beach until it

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actually puts together a plan,

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engages the community, waste the

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costs and benefits, and addresses a

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variety of issues that will arise if

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this speech is converted to a city

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park. The ordinance distillsTo the

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simple matter of the city spending

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hundred $10,000 out of its general

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fund and this vastly underestimates

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the amount of money it will take to

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condemn, litigate, and compensate the

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owner for the property, but more

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importantly it ignores the issues

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that come with acquiring the beach.

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For one, the ordinance does nothing

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to address access. And less the tide

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is out there is no public access

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speech. Our street is a single lane

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road, the 600 feet is privately

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owned, there is no turnaround, no

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parking, scarce room for emergency

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vehicles, the city declined the

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purchase of this beach because of

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these issues. Nothing is changed

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since then. The recent move to

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condemn this property was made

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without input from the stakeholders

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most affected,The data of this agenda

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was announced we submitted a public

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records request. I was told not to

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expect to receive a full response

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until August 16. That is a Regent

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reason to postpone. Many comments

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offered to show the beach owners

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permitted people to access the speech

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recreation for decades, so there's no

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reason for the city to upset the

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status quo before engaging

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stakeholders addresses the issues

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related to condemning the beach and

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is for these reasons we respectfully

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request the city postpone further

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consideration of ordinance 967.

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>>Thank you, Mr. Beard.

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>>Next is David Barnett.

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>>Mayor Scully, Deputy Mayor

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Robertson and members of the city

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Council, can you hear me?

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>>Yes, go ahead whenever you're

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ready.

556
00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:53,100
>>I've been a resident of shoreline

557
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:54,100
for over 18 years. I am also the

558
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,100
chairman of the (INAUDIBLE). It is

559
00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:56,100
not context I address you today.

560
00:23:56,100 --> 00:23:58,401
(INAUDIBLE) for stealing myNeighbors

561
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:22,100
land is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

562
00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:23,100
Community members is no different

563
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:24,100
from the Robert land barons to change

564
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:25,100
legal descriptions of land threatened

565
00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:26,100
to ensure even murder my people and

566
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:27,100
force them off their lands and then

567
00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:28,100
exploited their about gains for

568
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:29,100
purposes. In the Farias abusive

569
00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:30,100
government authority embedded in the

570
00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:31,100
plan before you is nothing new. My

571
00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:32,100
people or foresaw for mailing acres

572
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:33,100
of land at gunpoint as the Army

573
00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:34,100
carried out official government

574
00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:35,100
directives using government as a

575
00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:36,100
chauffeur and appropriate private

576
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:37,100
interest is today as it was then

577
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:38,100
fundamentally corrupt. We won't be

578
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:41,100
full door forced away this time. My

579
00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:42,100
I purchased my family's home at a

580
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:43,100
premium because my I swore to my

581
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:46,100
answer ancestors to never let

582
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:05,100
colonizers take away my rights for my

583
00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:06,100
landlord dishonor my aboriginal

584
00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:07,100
rights as a Native American. In

585
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:08,100
striking contrast to the rhythmic

586
00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:09,100
abuses by my people and other

587
00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:10,100
indigenous peoples the peters

588
00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:11,100
permissions muted numerous Native

589
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:12,100
Americans use this parcel for

590
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:13,100
district purposes with the permission

591
00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:14,100
including ceremonies and tribal

592
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:15,100
landings and related culturally

593
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:16,100
significant practices. It's tried to

594
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,100
restore and grow their connection to

595
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:18,100
the land already stolen from them.

596
00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:19,100
Please let's not steal it again. The

597
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:22,100
tribes enjoy sovereign immunity. In

598
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:40,100
the inherent rights to build and

599
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:41,100
enjoy meaningful relationship with

600
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:42,100
private generous people like Peter

601
00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:43,100
it's not impede or dishonor this

602
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:44,100
balance by inappropriately and

603
00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:45,100
unwisely promoting self-interest

604
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:46,100
under government authority. I will

605
00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:47,100
do everything in my power to keep the

606
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:48,100
property as is to honor my people and

607
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:49,100
their traditions and end the cycle of

608
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:50,100
abuse. Thank you.

609
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:51,100
>>Thank you, Mr. Barnett.

610
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:53,401
>>Next is Sandra Gillett.

611
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:08,100
>>Thank you. This is Sandra Gillett,

612
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:09,100
I live on Richmond Beach Drive and I

613
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:10,100
have lived here since 1971. So I am

614
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:11,100
probably 1 of the longest residents

615
00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:12,100
here now. My family and my neighbors

616
00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:13,100
and everybody has spent many an hour

617
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:17,201
on the beaches and I really am

618
00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:19,100
excited about the opportunity that

619
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:20,100
you have is city Council to explore

620
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:22,100
this possibilityOf acquiring this

621
00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:25,100
piece of land which abutsThe

622
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:28,100
saltwater Park. The boundary, the

623
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:35,100
north boundary of the saltwater park

624
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:36,100
is contiguous with this piece of

625
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:37,100
property, this is an unmatched

626
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:38,100
opportunityFor US councilmembers to

627
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:41,601
really acquire a beautiful piece of

628
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:47,100
property for the city, for the

629
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,100
shoreline for the use of the people.

630
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:53,201
For years I've walked on 27th NW.

631
00:26:58,100 --> 00:26:59,100
which I fondly remember Fondly

632
00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:00,100
Remembers Appletree Ln., North and

633
00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:04,100
South to get to the beaches. AndNow

634
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:05,100
the north and is blocked off and so

635
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:09,201
people get to the beachIn a very

636
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:14,100
unsafe way by going over to railway

637
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,100
tracks and down the rocks and people

638
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:18,601
will continue to access the unsafe

639
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:21,100
lien less you make sure it's done

640
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:24,601
safely. It's a liability issue for

641
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:35,100
this issue because you have this

642
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,100
opportunity now if you do not act on

643
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:37,100
it you're putting yourself in a

644
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:38,100
liable position possibly. So I

645
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:39,100
support very strongly the city buying

646
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:40,100
the beach parcel. It will be very

647
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:44,801
nice when the city owns it. For one

648
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:54,100
thing, they can have more

649
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:55,100
jurisdiction over the use of it as in

650
00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:56,100
ill legal use page partners parties

651
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:57,100
and setting fires and things. Thank

652
00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:58,100
you so much for your time.

653
00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:59,100
>>Thank you.

654
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:01,401
>>Next is Jack (INAUDIBLE).

655
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:11,100
>>Hi, can you hear me?

656
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:12,100
>>Go ahead whenever you're ready.

657
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:13,100
>>My name is Jack Malek, I am a 21

658
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:14,100
year resident of Richmond Beach, I

659
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:15,100
live at 2022 423rd Pl. NW.I share Mr.

660
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:18,601
let's enthusiasm. I don't have her

661
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:30,100
tenure, that's for sure, but it's

662
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:31,100
been a lovely community, lovely place

663
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:32,100
to live and raise a child and until

664
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:33,100
recently I didn't even know that that

665
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:37,201
stretch of beach didn't belong to the

666
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:49,100
Park service. I should say it was

667
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:50,100
probably about 5 or 6 years ago that

668
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:51,100
I learned of that. As I was

669
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:52,100
researching (INAUDIBLE) in the area.

670
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:53,100
And quite honestly that land, I doubt

671
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:54,100
many people would know that that is

672
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:55,100
privately held land, that 2 acres.

673
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:56,100
You know,It was recently sold along

674
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:57,100
the property, the home near there. I

675
00:28:57,100 --> 00:29:00,100
don't see the benefit it affords that

676
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:01,100
home, you can't build on it for

677
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:04,100
residential or businessAnd the only

678
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:26,100
real utility is recreation which

679
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:27,100
seems consistent with a park and it's

680
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:28,100
how people use it at least all 21

681
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:29,100
years I have lived here. It's in

682
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:30,100
continuity and follows natural

683
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:31,100
contour of the tilings in the

684
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:32,100
existing beach. The only safe way to

685
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:33,100
get there is either through the salt

686
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:34,100
water park access or from within the

687
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:37,100
neighborhood would be in continuity

688
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:57,100
with the road 27th Ave. I think the

689
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:58,100
safest way to access and enjoy that

690
00:29:58,100 --> 00:29:59,100
beach, I think it's appropriate the

691
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:00,100
city purchases it, I am in favor of

692
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:01,100
the ordinance and this agenda item

693
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:02,100
and I hope you move forward with it.

694
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:03,100
Thank you very much.

695
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:04,100
>>Thank you, Mr. Malik.

696
00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:05,100
>>Next on the list of Tom Meyer,

697
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:06,100
however, I don't see Mr. my it's in

698
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:07,100
the list of attendees. It could be

699
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:08,100
that he is 1 of our telephone

700
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:09,100
attendees. If you are there, can you

701
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,100
please raise your hand by pressing *9

702
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:11,100
on the phone or using the hand in the

703
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:14,601
zoom application?There we go.Okay.

704
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:26,100
>>My name is Tom Meyer, I am a rich

705
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:27,100
resident of Richmond Beach, I'm

706
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:30,100
commenting on 9C2Purchase of

707
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:51,100
beachfront parcel my family has lived

708
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:52,100
there for the last 38 years, we have

709
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:53,100
2 sons now in their 30s. My family

710
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:54,100
also watched the access to either end

711
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:55,100
of 27th Ave. NW., Appletree Lane

712
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:56,100
starting with our (INAUDIBLE). We

713
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:57,100
increasing walk to the beach using

714
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:58,100
the South access with her

715
00:30:58,100 --> 00:30:59,100
granddaughter, multigenerational

716
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:00,100
tradition. In those 38 years they

717
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:01,100
almost always met others blocking

718
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,100
these routes to or from the beach.

719
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:03,100
Pedestrians using (INAUDIBLE) is

720
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:04,100
clearly a long-standing not just

721
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:07,601
something my family have always done.

722
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:11,100
There are multiple very good reasons

723
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:12,100
for the city to purchase this parcel.

724
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:15,601
The city made its ownGoals to

725
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:19,100
acquire beach access. The city will

726
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:20,100
never find a beachfront parcel at

727
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:23,601
this size at this price. (INAUDIBLE)

728
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:28,100
about confusion about a saltwater

729
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:29,100
part. For all these reasons the city

730
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:30,100
should personal purchase the parcel

731
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:33,601
at 27th Ave. (INAUDIBLE) 27th Ave.

732
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:52,100
the city should work with order road

733
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:53,100
get pedestrian easement on the

734
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:54,100
portion of the road by the railroad.

735
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:55,100
These actions will make sure

736
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:56,100
(INAUDIBLE) to saltwater Park is

737
00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:57,100
preserved for future (INAUDIBLE).

738
00:31:57,100 --> 00:31:58,100
Also totally support riveting public

739
00:31:58,100 --> 00:31:59,100
parking 27th Ave. NW., access should

740
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:00,100
be reserved for neighborhood walkers

741
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:01,100
and anyone (INAUDIBLE) should use the

742
00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:02,100
saltwater part. Thank you.

743
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:03,100
>>Thank you.

744
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:05,401
>>Next is Tom McCormick.

745
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:12,100
>>Hello, Council.

746
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:16,100
>>Hi.

747
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:17,100
>>I'm Tom McCormick here in Mission

748
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:21,801
Beach.If you pop down in the beach

749
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:30,100
for the 1st time ever on a nice day

750
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:31,100
and you just sit on a log or rock,

751
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:32,100
what you going to see? You're going

752
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:33,100
to see not an empty beach, you're

753
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:37,100
going to see lots of people on a nice

754
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:38,100
day filling that space as they have

755
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:39,100
been doing for decades, it's going to

756
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:40,100
continue the matter what Council does

757
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:41,100
, people are going to flock to that

758
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:44,100
beach. We heard that what changed

759
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:47,100
since the last timeThe acquisition

760
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:51,401
issue? Will 2020, COVIDAnd the

761
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:55,100
unbelievable actions that the city

762
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:58,601
and membersOf the Association on 27th

763
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:05,100
to try to keep people out instead of

764
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:06,100
encouraging people to be at the

765
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:09,100
beach, people were kept outSuddenly

766
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:37,100
tell us we are trespassing, multiple

767
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:38,100
signage, but moreover what's changed,

768
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:39,100
saltwater part, I discovered that

769
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,100
sends extends north to the boundary

770
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:41,100
of the property. That's extended to

771
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:42,100
a natural breaking point at the

772
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:43,100
bulkhead. Are there issues to be

773
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:44,100
worked out? Of course. There's

774
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:45,100
always issues to be worked out.

775
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:46,100
Somebody suggested doing a survey.

776
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:47,100
And surveys going we done in the

777
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:48,100
process. We're not going to acquire

778
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:49,100
the property tomorrow after this

779
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:50,100
ordinance is passed and there will be

780
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:51,100
a title check. The title currently

781
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:52,100
Says the owner owns the tidelands.

782
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:53,100
There's currently upland's there too.

783
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:54,100
Who owns those? These things are

784
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:58,201
going to be addressed in the process.

785
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:03,100
It was someone said the biggest

786
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:04,100
stakeholders are on 27. The people

787
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:05,100
in 27 phone 2.5% of the road. We are

788
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:06,100
the stakeholders as well that you

789
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:07,100
side of the tracks leading to use

790
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:08,100
that road for our safety. Safety

791
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:11,100
cannot be put on the back burner.

792
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:12,100
That is a huge reason why the Council

793
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:13,100
needs to take this action. We need

794
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:17,100
to be able access the beach safely.

795
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:18,100
>>Thank you, Mr. McCormick.

796
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:22,201
>>Next is Randy Stein.Mr. Stein, ask

797
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:36,401
you to unmute yourself.

798
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:41,201
>>There he goes.My name is Randy

799
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:46,100
Stein, live on 27th Ave. My wife and

800
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:50,100
I have enjoyed this for many years.

801
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:51,100
The question we have is how much is

802
00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:55,801
enough?They have a part to the north

803
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:58,100
of us and we have a part to the south

804
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:02,201
of us within 1/2 mile.When the city

805
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:08,100
uses eminent domain it's kind of a

806
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:09,100
bullying process. You're taking

807
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:13,201
private land as several have said and

808
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:23,100
converting it to public use. 34

809
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:24,100
present parks, how much is enough?

810
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:25,100
And we are saying this is definitely

811
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:26,100
disputing, disrupting our living here

812
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:27,100
in the area. There is some the

813
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:30,601
residents have the dogs we haven't

814
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:46,100
complained about the neighbors

815
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:47,100
walking up and down the streets.

816
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:48,100
Yes, signs of been put up for people,

817
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:49,100
a lot of people drive past those

818
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:50,100
signs and try to turn around which is

819
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:51,100
a no turnaround area. So it's very

820
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:52,100
inconvenient. Somebody ought to come

821
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:53,100
here and just live here and stay

822
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:54,100
here, visit here. Dog poop, beer

823
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:57,601
bottles, tin cans, all kinds of

824
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,100
garbage is left here by these people.

825
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:05,100
A lot of them are nice and we

826
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:06,100
appreciate the fact they pick up the

827
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:07,100
poop, but it's just it's

828
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:08,100
inconvenient. When they park in our

829
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:12,201
parking spaces in front of our house

830
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:14,100
of our garage it's inconvenient.

831
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:15,100
It's not necessary. This is just

832
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:16,100
going to encourage more. Over the

833
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:17,100
years the city has spent a lot of

834
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:20,100
energy preventing, trying to prevent

835
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:21,100
wells point from adding new housing

836
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:22,100
in the area. And this again is going

837
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:23,100
to encourage, we have got one street

838
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:26,100
more traffic more involvement with

839
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:30,601
other people. It's not fair. We

840
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:35,100
paid for expensive private use here

841
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:36,100
and we appreciate that. Thanks for

842
00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:38,401
the opportunity to talk.

843
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:41,100
>>Thank you, Mr. Stein.

844
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:44,100
>>Next is David Spellman. I do not

845
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:45,100
see Mr. Spellman in our list of

846
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:48,601
attendees. Mr. Spellman signed up as

847
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:53,100
a lawyer for Tal Liani when I do see

848
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:57,201
Mr. Italiano in the list.Could you

849
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:01,100
please raise your hand?

850
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:02,100
>>If Mr. Spellman is Present we are

851
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:05,100
happy to hear from him.Mr. Italiano

852
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:07,401
is not signed up.

853
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:13,100
Let's pass for now and we will return

854
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:14,100
at the end to make sure Mr. Spellman

855
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,100
is present.

856
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:19,100
>>Okay, sounds good. Our next speaker

857
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,100
is Forrest Taylor.

858
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:00,100
>>Good evening, Mayor Scully, Deputy

859
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:01,100
Mayor Robertson and members of the

860
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:02,100
Council. My name is Forrest Taylor,

861
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:03,100
I live on Northwest 1/98 next to the

862
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:04,100
beach entrance we are talking about.

863
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:05,100
I support the city of Shoreline

864
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:06,100
buying the parcel. I always thought

865
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:07,100
it was part of the park, it's not

866
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:08,100
clear at all that it isn't. It

867
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:09,100
should be. I walked down along that

868
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,100
beachfront hundreds of times, I had

869
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:11,100
no reason to think I was trespassing.

870
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:12,100
There's nothing there. at that point

871
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:13,100
the beach is not allowed as an

872
00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:14,100
entrance what are we supposed to do?

873
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:15,100
The next closest entrance is walking

874
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:16,100
up a hill for over a mile and then

875
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:17,100
walking back down to the beach.

876
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:18,100
That's not going to happen. People

877
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:19,100
aren't going to walk up and down a

878
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:20,100
hill to go to a beach that's right

879
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:21,100
there. we are just going to go by the

880
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:22,100
closest route. And that's already

881
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:23,100
what's been happening. No one is

882
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:24,100
taking a walk to the beach and saying

883
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:25,100
let's go a mile out of the way

884
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:26,100
because maybe the railroad or

885
00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:27,100
somebody owns that part of the beach.

886
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:28,100
People are already using the beach

887
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:29,100
as part of the beach, so let's just

888
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:30,100
make it official. Some people want

889
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:31,100
to be, the beach to be a private

890
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:32,100
property or private road, there's the

891
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:33,100
serious things that need to be

892
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:34,100
researched and investigated. We

893
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:35,100
don't need investigation. I've been

894
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:36,100
there hundreds of times. Maybe they

895
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:37,100
want to make people pay for the

896
00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:38,100
privilege of going the closest route

897
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:39,100
to the beach, but people aren't going

898
00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:40,100
to pay to walk to the beach, they're

899
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:41,100
just going to walk to the beach

900
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:42,100
whether someone says it's a private

901
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:43,100
property or not. You put a gate

902
00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:44,100
people going to walk around it as

903
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:45,100
well they should. Richmond Beach is

904
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:46,100
for everyone. Can I say let's make

905
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:47,100
it official and keep it that way. I

906
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:48,100
yield the rest of my time.

907
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:49,100
>>Thank you.

908
00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:50,100
>>Next is Tom Peterson.

909
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,100
>>Hello, this is Tom Peterson, I live

910
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:52,100
at 1719 NW. 192nd St. in Richmond

911
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:53,100
Beach. I have been enjoying the

912
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:54,100
comments other people of been making

913
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:55,100
and would say yes, certainly, the

914
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:56,100
city Council should meet with

915
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:57,100
residents to studyTheir concerns and

916
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:58,100
allay any such concerns. I do

917
00:39:58,100 --> 00:39:59,100
support the city acquiring the beach

918
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:00,100
for the park. I agree with many and

919
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:01,100
have lived in Richmond Beach for 25+

920
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:02,100
years that there would be little or

921
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:03,100
negligible increase in foot traffic

922
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:04,100
Just the usual locals as they always

923
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:05,100
have strolling through on their way

924
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:06,100
to the beach on 27th. I do support

925
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:07,100
prohibiting outside parking on 27th

926
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:08,100
and better signage and strict

927
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:09,100
enforcement so that it is still

928
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:10,100
residents only.And I think the city

929
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:11,100
should work with Burlington Northern

930
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:12,100
Santa Fe on a dedicated pathway to

931
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:16,801
the south end of the 27th Ave.Beach

932
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:25,100
access so that visitors are not

933
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:26,100
disturbing residents are infringing

934
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:27,100
on their rights, similar to pathways

935
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:28,100
and cut through's like the one

936
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:29,100
between 15th Ave. NW. and 198 Street.

937
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:30,100
Thank you, and I yield the rest of

938
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:31,100
my time.

939
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:33,100
>>Thank you.

940
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:36,100
>>Next is the (INAUDIBLE).Miss

941
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:43,100
McCrory is joining us from a cell

942
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:45,100
phone.

943
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:57,100
>>Teresa look Watt Edmonds, Director

944
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:58,100
of shoreline Lake Forest Park Senior

945
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:01,100
Center. Joining you tonight on

946
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:05,100
behalf of the instructors volunteers

947
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:08,601
600+ members and the rest of the

948
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:11,401
aging community of shorelineTo

949
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:22,100
support Council as you proclaim the

950
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:23,100
month of May senior month we have

951
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:24,100
been hosting many wonderful events

952
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:25,100
online which will culminate June 11

953
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:27,100
with the large wellness fair that

954
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:31,201
will be opened on the community. I

955
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:33,100
especially want to thank

956
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:34,100
councilmembers for the continued

957
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:37,100
support, Not only in the past 2 years

958
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:41,201
but at all times. Whenever we have

959
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:46,100
been in need you have been there.

960
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:48,100
And each year I find that we have a

961
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:49,100
broader understanding of our

962
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:52,601
partnership. We learn from you what

963
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:57,801
your expectation is of us and I think

964
00:41:58,100 --> 00:41:59,100
you know we do our best to try and

965
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:02,100
meet that expectation. We look

966
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:07,100
forward to 2022 and continued years

967
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:10,100
and working alongside many employees

968
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:13,601
of the city in various departments

969
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:16,100
and servicing our Asian community.

970
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:17,100
Thank you, and I yield my time.

971
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:19,100
>>Thank you.

972
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:25,801
>>Next is Jackie Curley. I do not see

973
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:38,100
Ms. Curley in the list of attendees

974
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:39,100
for she emailed me previously she is

975
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:40,100
having some audio issues. Ms.

976
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:41,100
Curley, if you're joining us on the

977
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:42,100
phone could you please press *6 to

978
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:44,100
unmute yourself?

979
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:49,100
>>I'm not seeing anyone, let's move

980
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:50,100
overTo Mr. Spellman at the end.

981
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:54,201
>>So next is Bill Turner.And Mr.

982
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:11,100
Turner, could you please raise your

983
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:12,100
hand if you're in the list of

984
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:16,801
attendees?Actually I see he is on the

985
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:22,100
telephone as well. Let me rename Mr.

986
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:26,201
Telok Turner and allow him to talk.

987
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:30,100
Okay, Mr. Turner, go ahead when

988
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:32,100
you're ready.

989
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:49,100
>>Mr. Turner, if you can hear me, go

990
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:53,801
ahead and speak.I don't see that the

991
00:43:58,100 --> 00:43:59,100
phone is muted, but I also don't see

992
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:00,100
him on our list, the Simulcik Smith,

993
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:04,201
the list of presenters.There we go.

994
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:06,100
Mr. Turner, I apologize. And whenever

995
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:09,601
you're ready, please unmute and speak.

996
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:14,100
>>You are unmuted, Mr. Turner, go

997
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:16,100
ahead.

998
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:27,100
>>Mr. Turner, if you can hear us,

999
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:28,100
please go ahead and speak. I think

1000
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:32,201
you should be unmuted at this point.

1001
00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:44,100
I hate to do this, but let's pass Mr.

1002
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:45,100
Turner and return to the

1003
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:46,100
(INAUDIBLE).

1004
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:47,100
>>Mr. Turner had called me previously

1005
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:48,100
and said he would be joining under a

1006
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:49,100
different name and also don't see

1007
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:50,100
that name. So we will try again at

1008
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:51,100
the end.

1009
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:53,401
Next is Kathleen Russell.

1010
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:05,100
>>Kathleen Russell, a resident of

1011
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:06,100
shoreline on behalf of saved

1012
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:07,100
shoreline trees. Regarding 9B

1013
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:08,100
staffing requests it is

1014
00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:09,100
understandable more developments lead

1015
00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:10,100
to more permanent activity. More

1016
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:11,100
development also lead to increased

1017
00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:14,100
questions from citizensIn more public

1018
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:23,100
records request. As residents who

1019
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:24,100
live here we pay property taxes,

1020
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:25,100
license fees, sales taxes and

1021
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:26,100
therefore residents would question

1022
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:27,100
should also receive an appropriate

1023
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:30,100
level of response.Question about

1024
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:39,100
statement in 9B, quote, this trend is

1025
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:40,100
expected to continue over the next

1026
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:41,100
several years with current projects

1027
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:43,100
of 7000Question about statement in

1028
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:44,100
9B, quote, this trend is expected to

1029
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:45,100
continue over the next several years

1030
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:46,100
with current projects of 7947 units

1031
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:49,601
to develop by 2025. This refers to

1032
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:53,100
current projects. Is it possible to

1033
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:57,201
get a location list of these projects?

1034
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:10,100
Regarding Richmond Beach, we continue

1035
00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:11,100
to have questions about the 20th Ave.

1036
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:12,100
NW. new sidewalk. The design is now

1037
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:13,100
8 feet wide along 20th Ave. NW. from

1038
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:14,100
1/90 to 1/93. And then 10 feet wide

1039
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:17,601
from 1/93 to 1/95.We ask for a

1040
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:22,100
continuous 8 foot wide sidewalk. We

1041
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:38,100
are completing the survey but we have

1042
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:39,100
questions that the design will be at

1043
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:40,100
a 100% before we get answers. Can

1044
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:41,100
the city possibly set up a fact sheet

1045
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:42,100
to answer the questions as email to

1046
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:43,100
the project manager and Council?

1047
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:44,100
Thank you.

1048
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:45,100
>>Thank you.

1049
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:47,100
>>Derrick Blackwell.

1050
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:54,601
>>Hello. My name is Derrick Blackwell

1051
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:08,100
It can you hear me?

1052
00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:09,100
>>Yes, go ahead whenever you're

1053
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:10,100
ready.

1054
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:11,100
>>Thank you. I live close by to the

1055
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:12,100
newly proposed apartment building on

1056
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:13,100
Linden Ave., North to replace our in

1057
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:14,100
Park Apartments. Bill Creek

1058
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:15,100
residential held a 2nd community zoo

1059
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:19,801
meeting on May 10This was not in good

1060
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:21,100
faith, nobody schedules meetings at 8

1061
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:22,100
PM unless they want to purposely

1062
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:23,100
minimize participation, the start we

1063
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:24,100
had almost 50 people. By the end

1064
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:25,100
most dropped out.Some deafly could

1065
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:28,601
make it. The 1st community meeting

1066
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:44,100
was publicized, clearly Millcreek

1067
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:45,100
wishes to minimize discussion. Is it

1068
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:46,100
coincidence that the announcements

1069
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:47,100
for braille apartments on Linda

1070
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:48,100
Avenue one block away came out 4 days

1071
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:49,100
after this Millcreek meeting? Here we

1072
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:50,100
have 386 propose but at least there's

1073
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:53,100
vehicle accessIn Linden and Aurora

1074
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:03,100
avenues. The proposed building does

1075
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:04,100
not and exceptional and it's very ill

1076
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:05,100
suited for the surroundings. Earlier

1077
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:06,100
we made Millcreek where all aware of

1078
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:07,100
the safety issues on May 10 we are

1079
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:08,100
very arrogantly told they would have

1080
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:09,100
just one vehicle entrance because

1081
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:10,100
there would only be one conflict

1082
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:11,100
point with pedestrians which would

1083
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:14,100
obviously be worse, everyone waiting

1084
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:28,100
longer at that one point. Yes, we

1085
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:29,100
have one more parking space on the

1086
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:30,100
street. They are not getting

1087
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:31,100
rational reasons, they don't have to.

1088
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:32,100
They have already been assured all

1089
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:33,100
they have to do is meet code

1090
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:34,100
requirements and their application

1091
00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:35,100
will be approved. Lack of vehicle

1092
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:36,100
access came up several times in the

1093
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:39,601
meeting, Kate Lee stated she needed

1094
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:55,100
to defer to the traffic engineer for

1095
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:56,100
traffic problems. As I mentioned

1096
00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:57,100
earlier I had already spoken with

1097
00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:58,100
David da Vinci, very nice person who

1098
00:48:58,100 --> 00:48:59,100
made it clear this is not a

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discussion to get involved in. Okay,

1100
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:01,100
who is? The city could prevent future

1101
00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:02,100
safety problems by making a statement

1102
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:03,100
about it now before the application

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00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:04,100
is submitted number 1 on the list is

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00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:05,100
emergency vehicle response. Thank

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00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:06,100
you for hearing.

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00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:07,100
>>Thank you. I see Mr. Spellman has

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joined.

1108
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:14,100
>>Mr. Spellman, go ahead and unmute

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00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:15,100
yourself and you're ready, please.

1110
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:16,100
>>Can hear me now?

1111
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:17,100
>>Yes, go ahead whenever you're

1112
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:18,100
ready.

1113
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:19,100
>>I am here on behalf of the property

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00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:20,100
owner regarding agenda item9C which

1115
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:23,601
is the condemnation ordinance. I was

1116
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:28,100
retained in December by the property

1117
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:29,100
owner regarding an email by Mr.

1118
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:32,100
McCormick who had proposedThat enough

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00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:35,100
of public trust to require acquire

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00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:38,601
the property. That was in December.

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00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:42,100
In May the property owner learned for

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00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:43,100
the 1st time about a proposal to

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00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:46,601
condemn the property.Our position is

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00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:57,100
The city should postpone the motion

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00:49:57,100 --> 00:49:58,100
and conduct a proper transparence and

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00:49:58,100 --> 00:49:59,100
inclusive process consistent with

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00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:00,100
principles of equity and inclusion.

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00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:01,100
The fact that the city's response to

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00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:03,401
theNeighborhood groups public records

1130
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:09,100
request says there will not be a

1131
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:11,100
response until August shows thatThe

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00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:14,100
cities blitzkriegIn an attempt to

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00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:24,100
condemn the property is ill advised.

1134
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:25,100
This requires a process. The context

1135
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:26,100
is under 1984 lawsuit. The original

1136
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:28,401
property owner(INAUDIBLE) through

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00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:35,100
trust had agreed to permissive public

1138
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,601
use of the property. That's the

1139
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:50,100
status quo. What's the reason to

1140
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:51,100
rush from that? There needs to be an

1141
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:52,100
analysis with the recent plans of the

1142
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:53,100
city of Seattle to close Golden

1143
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:55,401
GardensAnd through public safety

1144
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:10,100
concerns, one can understand why my

1145
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:11,100
client has concerns. Moreover there

1146
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:12,100
are concerns about access. The city

1147
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:13,100
is changing its position, the

1148
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:14,100
position is expressed in city signage

1149
00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:15,100
showing there is no public access to

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00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:16,100
the beach and(INAUDIBLE).

1151
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:18,100
>>Thank you, Mr. Spellman.Has Ms.

1152
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:22,201
Curley or Mr. 20 turn or join us?

1153
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:39,100
>>I do not see Ms. Curley. Mr.

1154
00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:40,100
Turner is still on the call, we can

1155
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:41,100
give it a try again to see if it

1156
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:42,100
works.

1157
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:43,100
>>Are there instructions you can give

1158
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:44,100
him? I am not sure the problem is.

1159
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:45,100
Mr. Turner, I'm going to press a

1160
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:46,100
button that allows you to talk and

1161
00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:48,100
you press *6 to unmute yourself.

1162
00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:52,201
Parent Mr. Turner, can you hear us?

1163
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:00,100
Mr. Turner, it looks like you're

1164
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:03,100
activated, could you try speaking?

1165
00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:05,100
Unfortunately, we are going to need

1166
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:08,601
to move on. Mr. Turner, you're

1167
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:11,100
welcome to submit comments in writing

1168
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:15,201
or attend our next, are you there?

1169
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:35,100
Unfortunately looks like this is not

1170
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:36,100
going to work. We're going have to

1171
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:37,100
pass. The Simulcik Smith, believe

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00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:38,100
that closes public comment, correct?

1173
00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:39,100
>>Yes.

1174
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:40,100
>>Thank you. Next up is the consent

1175
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:41,100
calendar. Death HUMIRA Robertson?

1176
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:42,100
>>I moved we approve the consent

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00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:43,100
calendar as amended, correct, from

1178
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:44,100
earlier?

1179
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:45,100
>>Item 7 I is no longer on the

1180
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:46,100
consent calendar.Is there a 2nd?

1181
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:47,100
>>2nd that.

1182
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:48,100
>>Thank you. Will the court please

1183
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:49,100
call the vote?

1184
00:52:49,100 --> 00:52:50,100
>>

1185
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:52,100
[CALLING ROLL]

1186
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:05,100
>>The consent calendar passes

1187
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:06,100
unanimously in the new action item 8

1188
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:07,100
a is the former 7 I which is adopting

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00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:09,401
491For appealing resolution number

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00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:12,401
459 which authorizes hybrid meetings.

1191
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:32,100
>>City attorney Margaret King was

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00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:35,100
going to do a very brief presentation.

1193
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:37,100
>>Whenever you're ready.

1194
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:53,100
>>Can you hear me? I apologize. I

1195
00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:54,100
was just trying to click my unmute

1196
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:55,100
when the screen popped up and I

1197
00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:56,100
couldn't find it. My apologies.

1198
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:57,100
>>You are here now, go ahead.

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00:53:57,100 --> 00:53:58,100
>>Mayor and Council, this is a

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00:53:58,100 --> 00:54:00,100
resolution number 491Repealing

1201
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:02,100
resolution number 459 temporarily

1202
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:03,100
authorizing meetings in public

1203
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:04,100
hearings to be held remotely due to

1204
00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:08,201
COVID-19.I don't know whyMy screen is

1205
00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:14,801
not working.There we go.Okay.Okay, so

1206
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:25,100
theLegislative actions that we are

1207
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:40,100
addressing today in this discussion

1208
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:41,100
is resolution number 459, the Council

1209
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:42,100
adopted on June 1, 2020, it suspends

1210
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:45,100
the city Council 5.3 and 5.5That

1211
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:48,100
allowed us to go to virtual meetings.

1212
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:49,100
Those rules require there to be a

1213
00:54:49,100 --> 00:54:53,201
meeting on site of City Hall. It

1214
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:56,100
also directs the planning commission

1215
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:57,100
in the park board to hold meetings

1216
00:54:57,100 --> 00:54:58,100
virtually. There is a typo on I

1217
00:54:58,100 --> 00:55:00,100
apologize, it'sSubstitute House Bill

1218
00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:03,100
1329 was passed in 2022. Amends the

1219
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:18,100
public meetings act require physical

1220
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:19,100
location. It does permit entirely

1221
00:55:19,100 --> 00:55:20,100
virtual meetings but it does so only

1222
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:21,100
when there's a declaration of

1223
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:22,100
emergency and the meeting can't be

1224
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:23,100
held in person with reasonable safety.

1225
00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:24,100
And then the governor's

1226
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:26,100
proclamation 2028 16 is terminates

1227
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:27,100
and resumes requirements and public

1228
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:30,100
meetings to be held virtually.

1229
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:32,100
Effective June 1, 2020, the governor

1230
00:55:32,100 --> 00:55:34,401
has taken that action.

1231
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:03,100
So we have also integrated new

1232
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:04,100
technology into the city system, it

1233
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:05,100
integrates cameras and microphones

1234
00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:06,100
into a videoconferencing platform,

1235
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:07,100
staff presentations can be shared in

1236
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:08,100
Council chambers and on the

1237
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:09,100
videoconferencing platform and it

1238
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:10,100
also allows public comment to be made

1239
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:11,100
by telephone or videoconferencing

1240
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:12,100
software or, of course, in person

1241
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:13,100
allow us to do these meetings.Staff

1242
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:14,100
recommends the city Council adopt a

1243
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:16,100
resolutionRepealing resolution 459

1244
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:21,100
and returned to in person meetings

1245
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:22,100
effective June 1, 2022. And I am

1246
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:24,401
available for any questions.

1247
00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:31,100
>>Thank you pick this is an action

1248
00:56:31,100 --> 00:56:32,100
item so we normally start with a

1249
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:33,100
motion. Is there a motion related to

1250
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:36,601
this item?That be Mary Robertson?

1251
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:50,100
Thank you, I move that we adopt

1252
00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:51,100
resolution number 491 repealing

1253
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:52,100
number 459.

1254
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:53,100
>>Ms. Simulcik Smith, you have a

1255
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:54,100
comment?

1256
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:57,601
>>Mayor Scully, since this itemWas on

1257
00:57:10,100 --> 00:57:11,100
action for the 1st time?

1258
00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:12,100
>>Yes, just everyone knows staff

1259
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:13,100
reminded be about that and I just

1260
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:14,100
forgot. I apologize before we do

1261
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:15,100
motion we need to open it up for

1262
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:16,100
public comment. This is an action

1263
00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:17,100
item on the agenda for the 1st time

1264
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:18,100
without prior notice, we open up for

1265
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:19,100
public comment. If there any members

1266
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:20,100
of the public in attendance Ray

1267
00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:21,100
surehanded we will call on you to

1268
00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:22,100
provide comments on this action item

1269
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:26,201
only.I am not seeing any hands.

1270
00:57:55,100 --> 00:57:56,100
>>I don't see any either.

1271
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:57,100
>>With no hands raise I will close

1272
00:57:57,100 --> 00:57:58,100
the public comment. I apologize for

1273
00:57:58,100 --> 00:57:59,100
a meeting that we have a motion but

1274
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:00,100
not a 2nd. Consider 2nd for the

1275
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:01,100
deputy mayor's motion?

1276
00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:02,100
>>2nd.

1277
00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:03,100
>>Deputy Mayor Robertson, would you

1278
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:04,100
like to address your motion?

1279
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:05,100
>>I want to thank the staff,

1280
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:06,100
everybody was been involved in making

1281
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:07,100
virtual meetings possible and for the

1282
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:08,100
members of the public with continue

1283
00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:09,100
to participate in even in greater

1284
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:10,100
numbers in many cases throughout the

1285
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:11,100
pandemic. I look forward to seeing

1286
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:12,100
you all in person. Thanks.

1287
00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:13,100
>>

1288
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:14,100
[CALLING ROLL] Councilmember

1289
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:15,100
McConnell?

1290
00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:16,100
>>Thank you, Mayor. I want to thank

1291
00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:17,100
councilmember Roberts for pulling

1292
00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:18,100
this off of consent because I believe

1293
00:58:18,100 --> 00:58:19,100
because it's the 1st timeOn the

1294
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:20,100
agenda and we are coming to a vote,

1295
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:24,801
it is important for me, at least, we

1296
00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:26,100
do have a discussion so the public is

1297
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:29,601
aware of the moveScheduled for June 6

1298
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:41,100
to go back into the city chambers. I

1299
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:42,100
am glad we are going to do that, but

1300
00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:43,100
I particularly have several reasons

1301
00:58:43,100 --> 00:58:44,100
why I'm going to participate in the

1302
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:45,100
hybrid model, which is assumingFor

1303
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:48,100
both councilmembersWho want to zoom

1304
00:58:48,100 --> 00:58:49,100
in and also for the public. It's

1305
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:52,601
actuallyTo tell the public we can

1306
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:01,100
continue to participate as fully as

1307
00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:02,100
you have been during the pandemic

1308
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:03,100
because we actually have all

1309
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:04,100
commented that we have much more

1310
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:06,401
public participation. I particularly

1311
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:11,201
am of the medical (INAUDIBLE) that I

1312
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:39,100
am boosted not once but twice. And

1313
00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:40,100
that makes me a vulnerable population

1314
00:59:40,100 --> 00:59:41,100
and in addition to that I also in the

1315
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:42,100
sole caregiver for a 1-year-old who

1316
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:43,100
is not vaccinated and then another

1317
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:44,100
grandchild in that immediate family

1318
00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:45,100
who cannot be vaccinated because of

1319
00:59:45,100 --> 00:59:46,100
the age. So we have already stumbled

1320
00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:47,100
upon some quarantine, and when that

1321
00:59:47,100 --> 00:59:48,100
happens I can't show up for a week or

1322
00:59:48,100 --> 00:59:49,100
more untilWe are sure thatNo one is

1323
00:59:49,100 --> 00:59:50,100
going to be infecting each other.

1324
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:51,100
Because everybody knows, this is a

1325
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:53,100
very, veryCentury, once in a century

1326
00:59:53,100 --> 00:59:57,201
situation. I will be taking my cues

1327
01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:02,100
As things change, is my comfort level

1328
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:06,100
changes, etc. I really do miss being

1329
01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:07,100
in the council chambers because we

1330
01:00:07,100 --> 01:00:11,801
have so many new people and visit a

1331
01:00:13,100 --> 01:00:14,100
great opportunity to have a lot more

1332
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:15,100
dialogue prior to and after meetings,

1333
01:00:15,100 --> 01:00:20,401
soI am very sad to say that at least

1334
01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:29,100
For a little short. I will be

1335
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:30,100
zooming in and I hope that the staff

1336
01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:31,100
will be able to get the bugs out of

1337
01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:33,100
that system. Again, thank you,

1338
01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:34,100
councilmember Roberts, for pulling

1339
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:38,201
that off the agenda so the public

1340
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:44,100
knows what we're doing. Thank you.

1341
01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:45,100
>>Thank you. Other questions or

1342
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:46,100
comments, councilmember Roberts?

1343
01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:50,100
>>I have a couple of questions about

1344
01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:51,100
What the public and the Council is

1345
01:00:51,100 --> 01:00:52,100
going to expect when we come back to

1346
01:00:52,100 --> 01:00:55,100
chambers. It was mentioned the

1347
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:57,401
technology and theThe public

1348
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:03,100
councilmembers are going to be

1349
01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:04,100
allowed to and encourage to

1350
01:01:04,100 --> 01:01:07,601
participate.This sort of some the

1351
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:11,601
specific questions I have are around

1352
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:29,100
Is in the past we have had seating in

1353
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:30,100
the Council Chambers rose roughly 100

1354
01:01:30,100 --> 01:01:31,100
people. Is that going to is that

1355
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:32,100
capacity going to be similar to what

1356
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:33,100
we've had in the past? Also, I know

1357
01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:34,100
that some of the details have not

1358
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:35,100
been finalized, but are there going

1359
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:36,100
to beStill the same requirements

1360
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:39,100
about around whenPublic who chooses

1361
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:42,100
to participate remotely or virtually,

1362
01:01:46,100 --> 01:01:47,100
that still the same time. To sign up

1363
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:48,100
to give public comment, is that going

1364
01:01:48,100 --> 01:01:52,201
to beStill the case? And to the

1365
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:57,100
extent that some of these Kino again

1366
01:01:57,100 --> 01:01:58,100
some of these details are still to be

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worked out, but to the extent that

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Staff can provide some answers to

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01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:05,100
those questions about what to expect

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01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:07,100
I appreciate that.

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01:02:15,100 --> 01:02:16,100
>>Miss Terry?

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01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:17,100
>>Thank you, Mayor. I will answer

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01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:18,100
those things that I might know. We

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01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:21,100
have not discussedA capacity limit in

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01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:24,601
the Council Chambers. I think it's

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01:02:37,100 --> 01:02:38,100
the Council is pretty familiar, is

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01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:39,100
very unusual circumstances when it

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01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:40,100
might've gotten to that capacity. We

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01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:41,100
would like to spread the chairs a

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01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:42,100
little bit further apart to allow

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01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:43,100
that, and I know historically when we

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01:02:43,100 --> 01:02:44,100
have had a larger crowd that couldn't

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01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:45,100
that overflowed the number of seats

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01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:49,201
in the chambers we have also allowed

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01:02:57,100 --> 01:02:58,100
or provided the speakers out in the

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01:02:58,100 --> 01:02:59,100
lobby and additional seating out

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01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:00,100
there is an opportunity certainly by

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01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:01,100
providing the opportunity for people

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01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:02,100
to continue to participate virtually

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01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:03,100
like has been happening for the last

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01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:06,100
2 1/2 years, That hopefully will be

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01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:07,100
very convenient for people. So

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01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:08,100
people that choose to participate

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01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:09,100
virtually really nothing will change

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01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:12,100
for themDear, would anticipate that

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01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:15,100
we would still ask for the same sign

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01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:16,100
up time frames just so we can

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01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:17,100
coordinate that it certainly if

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01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:21,100
that's going to change we would let

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01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:22,100
the public know that plenty of time.

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01:03:22,100 --> 01:03:26,201
AndI know earlier today I think when

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01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:30,100
I talked with councilmember oversee

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01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:33,601
asked a question about over protocols

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01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:35,100
and mask wearing, I think is I've

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01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:37,100
talked with councilmembersCurrently

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01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:41,100
at City Hall when the mask mandate

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01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:42,100
was dropped on a statewide basis we

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01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:46,201
alsoDo not require masks be borne by

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01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:56,100
those coming into City Hall, we

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01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:57,100
encourage people to do that but we

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01:03:57,100 --> 01:03:58,100
would anticipate at least at this

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01:03:58,100 --> 01:03:59,100
time that would be the practice

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01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:02,100
within the council chambers itself.So

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01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:05,100
and with the new technology we would

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01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:07,100
hope that people would be able to

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01:04:07,100 --> 01:04:10,100
ExperienceA meeting both virtually in

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01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:14,100
person and that is what we are

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01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:17,601
striving forAnd so if there's any

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01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:21,100
other specifics we can try to answer

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01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:25,801
those or we can follow up later with

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01:04:30,100 --> 01:04:31,100
additional information. One way I

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01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:32,100
would say is I think I shared with

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01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:33,100
Council our staff and working very

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01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:34,100
hard on this and so they just did a

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01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:38,201
final testing last week to make sure

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01:04:42,100 --> 01:04:43,100
People we couldn't afford

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01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:44,100
technologically and we would be

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01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:45,100
providing additional information

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01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:46,100
Council as far as anything that you

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01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:49,100
should be aware ofThis weekThe next

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01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:50,100
meeting 2 weeks from tonight on June

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01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:52,100
6.

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>>Further questions, councilmember

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01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:03,100
Roberts?

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01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:04,100
>>No, thank you.

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01:05:04,100 --> 01:05:05,100
>>Councilmember Moore?

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01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:06,100
>>My apologies, I must not understand

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01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:07,100
this clearly. So does this

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01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:08,100
resolution for the parks board, the

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01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:09,100
planning commission and the city

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01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:11,100
Council indicate that it is mandatory

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01:05:11,100 --> 01:05:15,201
that allOf the people who are on

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01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:24,100
those commissions or the Council of

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01:05:24,100 --> 01:05:25,100
peer in person unless there is a

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01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:26,100
state of emergency that says we

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01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:28,100
cannot simply come?

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01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:37,100
>>Ms. King?

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01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:38,100
>>No, what it does is before the

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01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:39,100
resolution mandated that they only be

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01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:42,601
virtual and that everybody had, no

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01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:44,100
one could come into a meeting and so

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01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:48,201
what this would do is undo that

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01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:51,100
mandate that everything be fully

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01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:54,100
vulture virtual and then it allows

1455
01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:55,100
Like councilmember McConnell pointed

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01:05:55,100 --> 01:05:58,601
outSome hybrid form which can allow

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01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:03,100
Members of the commission or the

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01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:06,601
parks board to attendRemotely as well

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01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:11,100
as in person as well as the public to

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01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:15,201
do so. To set answer your question?

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01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:17,100
>>I think so. Would there be a

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01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:18,100
specific protocol that would need to

1463
01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:19,100
be followed, for instance, if the

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01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:21,401
parks board memberDidn't feel

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01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:28,100
comfortable coming to one meeting but

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01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:29,100
did feel more comfortable coming to

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01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:33,801
the other, would they be able to just

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01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:36,100
, Would they have the link and be

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01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:37,100
able to zoom in? Or appear in person

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01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:38,100
and it's not requiring a specific

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01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:41,100
communication or is thatAhead of

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01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:47,100
time?

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01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:48,100
>>That I'm going have to defer to the

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01:06:48,100 --> 01:06:49,100
technological people, but I would say

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01:06:49,100 --> 01:06:53,201
that as far as attending remotely we

1476
01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:08,100
have done that prior to COVID-19 and

1477
01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:09,100
if a particular member could not

1478
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:10,100
attend in person they could call in

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01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:11,100
by phone, we have that technology.

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01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:12,100
So I think it's going to be just a

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01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:13,100
matter of how you access the new

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01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:14,100
technology, and I will have to defer

1483
01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:15,100
to other people that are much moreUp

1484
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:16,100
to date on the technology.

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01:07:16,100 --> 01:07:18,100
>>The Simulcik Smith?

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01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:27,100
>>Yes, so the Council Chambers has

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01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:28,100
had the hybrid equipment installed

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01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:29,100
and our other conference rooms are on

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01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:30,100
the schedule to be installed

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01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:31,100
currently we have been battlingBack

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01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:34,100
order of critical equipment. Room

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01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:36,100
303, which the park board typically

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01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:39,100
meets in, that room should be

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01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:40,100
Installed soon. If we get the

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01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:42,100
equipment on the timeline they last

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01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:44,100
gave us.

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01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:54,100
>>Thank you. Thank you, Mayor.

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01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:55,100
>>Thank you. I would add is a

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01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:56,100
Council we considered sort of how we

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01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:57,100
are going to implement this during

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01:07:57,100 --> 01:08:00,100
our retreat we considered various

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01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:03,100
leasing mechanisms and we also

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01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:04,100
decided we didn't want to do that,

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01:08:04,100 --> 01:08:05,100
Council members are free to decide

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01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:06,100
for themselves whether and how often

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01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:10,201
they choose toDo it remotely. I will

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01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:16,100
extend to the boards and commissions.

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01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:17,100
We are proposing a hybrid model

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01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:18,100
wears totally optional how you

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01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:19,100
participate and obviously will take

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01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:20,100
it as it goes and if it turns out

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01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:23,601
something isn't working we may have

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01:08:25,100 --> 01:08:26,100
to re-visit it. But for now

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01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:27,100
councilmembers are able to attend

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01:08:27,100 --> 01:08:28,100
completely remotely for as long as

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01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:29,100
they need to. Were there other

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01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:30,100
questions or comments from Council?

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01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:31,100
The Simulcik Smith, will you please

1519
01:08:31,100 --> 01:08:33,100
call the boat?

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01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:36,100
>>

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01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:38,100
[CALLING ROLL]

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01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:02,100
>>Thank you, the motion passes

1523
01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:03,100
unanimously. Next up is now I 18

1524
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:04,100
which is a public hearing discussion

1525
01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:05,100
on 951To the extension of the interim

1526
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:08,100
regulations beyond those provided in

1527
01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:18,100
shoreline municipal code do COVID-19

1528
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:19,100
impacts. It's a public hearing so we

1529
01:09:19,100 --> 01:09:20,100
will have the staff presentation 1st

1530
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:21,100
and then the public hearing. I

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01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:24,100
believe Mr. Bauer will present.

1532
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:31,100
>>Eye and promoting Mr. Bauer right

1533
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:33,100
now.

1534
01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:51,100
>>Good evening, Mayor and Council.

1535
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:52,100
REMICADE evening, go ahead whenever

1536
01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:56,201
you're ready.So yes, tonight I am

1537
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:09,100
here to present proposed ordinance

1538
01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:10,100
number 965 which would extend for

1539
01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:11,100
another 6 months the interim

1540
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:12,100
regulations for the outdoor seating

1541
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:13,100
to provide for ongoing flexibility in

1542
01:10:13,100 --> 01:10:15,100
response to the COVID-19 pandemic.And

1543
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:19,201
if I could advance the slide here,

1544
01:10:25,100 --> 01:10:28,601
Here we go. So the interim

1545
01:11:01,100 --> 01:11:02,100
regulations, they were as you recall

1546
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:03,100
1st adopted in July 2020, they have

1547
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:04,100
been extended 3 times. The latest

1548
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:05,100
extension is due to expire June 21

1549
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:06,100
unless actions taken to extend them.

1550
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:07,100
The interim regulations before you

1551
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:08,100
tonight would establish or continue

1552
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:09,100
to establish, rather, no fee

1553
01:11:09,100 --> 01:11:10,100
registration process for the seating

1554
01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:11,100
areas on private property and then

1555
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:12,100
also the expedited permit review for

1556
01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:13,100
areas in the right-of-way. They

1557
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:14,100
don't change any regulations related

1558
01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:16,100
to the safety.

1559
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:24,100
Staff anticipates this would be the

1560
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:25,100
last extension needed as the planning

1561
01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:26,100
commission just last week at a study

1562
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:27,100
session on the draft regulations to

1563
01:11:27,100 --> 01:11:28,100
allow outdoor seating on private

1564
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:29,100
property on a permanent basis. The

1565
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:30,100
planning commission scheduled to hold

1566
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:31,100
a hearing on permit regulations on

1567
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:32,100
July 21 meeting and recommendation

1568
01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:33,100
the Council will be expected

1569
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:34,100
following that hearing. As of today,

1570
01:11:34,100 --> 01:11:35,100
there is currently 2 businesses that

1571
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:36,100
continue to operate under the interim

1572
01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:39,100
regulations.Tonight is the public

1573
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:45,100
hearing on the six-month extension

1574
01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:46,100
and potential action is scheduled to

1575
01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:49,100
come back to CouncilFor the June 6

1576
01:11:49,100 --> 01:11:50,100
meeting. With that, will turn it

1577
01:11:50,100 --> 01:11:51,100
back over to they what back.

1578
01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:55,201
>>Thank you. Since this is a public

1579
01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:57,100
hearing I will open up the public

1580
01:11:57,100 --> 01:11:58,100
hearing for comment on this agenda

1581
01:11:58,100 --> 01:12:02,201
item only.Has anyone signed up for

1582
01:12:07,100 --> 01:12:08,100
this particular public hearing?

1583
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:09,100
>>No one registered for this item.

1584
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:10,100
>>For the folks in the attendee list,

1585
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:11,100
if you'd like to speak on this item,

1586
01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:15,201
please raise your hand.Seeing none I

1587
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:25,100
am going to go ahead and close the

1588
01:12:25,100 --> 01:12:26,100
public hearing at this point this is

1589
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:27,100
an action item, this is not an action

1590
01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:28,100
item, study action item. Are there

1591
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:31,100
questions or discussion from Council?

1592
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:39,100
Epi Mayor Iversen?

1593
01:12:39,100 --> 01:12:40,100
>>Thank you, Mayor. I'm glad that we

1594
01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:41,100
did this, I think was great response

1595
01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:42,100
to what was happening in our

1596
01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:45,601
community during the pandemic. I am

1597
01:12:53,100 --> 01:12:54,100
happy to support another extension

1598
01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:55,100
and also happy to see we have some

1599
01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:56,100
permanent recommendation headed our

1600
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:57,100
way soon so thank you for your work

1601
01:12:57,100 --> 01:12:58,100
on this. The one thing I called out

1602
01:12:58,100 --> 01:12:59,100
as I was reading again is that a part

1603
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:01,100
ofThe ordinanceSuspends minimum

1604
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:24,100
offstreet parking requirements, so I

1605
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:25,100
am just going to like drop this for

1606
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:26,100
the future reference. As we continue

1607
01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:27,100
to focus on making neighborhoods

1608
01:13:27,100 --> 01:13:28,100
multi-modal I would be interested in

1609
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:29,100
looking further at reducing the

1610
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:30,100
minimum requirements for offstreet

1611
01:13:30,100 --> 01:13:31,100
parking for food and drinking

1612
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:32,100
establishments. That just my little

1613
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:33,100
soapbox on this and I look forward to

1614
01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:34,100
supporting it when it comes back

1615
01:13:34,100 --> 01:13:35,100
traction.

1616
01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:36,100
>>Thank you. Councilmember McConnell?

1617
01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:37,100
>>Thank you, Mayor. Just wanted to

1618
01:13:37,100 --> 01:13:38,100
say this is a great idea. I'm a

1619
01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:39,100
little disappointed with the lack of

1620
01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:40,100
participation but may be I am not

1621
01:13:40,100 --> 01:13:42,100
going to the areas where it's more

1622
01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:45,100
viable. But downtown, you could

1623
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:52,601
hardly go on the sidewalk because

1624
01:13:55,100 --> 01:13:56,100
there is more tables and restaurants

1625
01:13:56,100 --> 01:13:59,100
that didn't have outdoor seatingEven

1626
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:03,100
last year or something. So nobody

1627
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:04,100
seems to mind that they are eating on

1628
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:07,601
the sidewalk. Nobody seems to mind

1629
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:18,100
that (INAUDIBLE) walked by and quite

1630
01:14:18,100 --> 01:14:19,100
honestly I can see what's on the menu

1631
01:14:19,100 --> 01:14:20,100
by looking on people's tables. Thank

1632
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:21,100
you for the staff and the Council to

1633
01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:22,100
be so flexible for this sort of

1634
01:14:22,100 --> 01:14:24,100
thing, because eating is, eating and

1635
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:27,601
socializing is a great activity that

1636
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:30,100
we can do a little bit more safely

1637
01:14:30,100 --> 01:14:33,100
outdoors duringThis pandemic which I

1638
01:14:34,100 --> 01:14:35,100
hope I never have to live through

1639
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:37,401
another one. Thank you.

1640
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:41,100
>>Thank you, councilmember. Other

1641
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:42,100
other comments or questions from

1642
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:45,601
Council?Seeing none, just sad I

1643
01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:12,100
remember when this 1st came up at the

1644
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:13,100
very beginning of the pandemic and we

1645
01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:14,100
talked about various models which we

1646
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:15,100
can regulate this and what Council

1647
01:15:15,100 --> 01:15:16,100
said unanimously back then was let's

1648
01:15:16,100 --> 01:15:17,100
get it out of the way and let this

1649
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:18,100
happen. Let's make it it is easy as

1650
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:19,100
possible as cheap as possible and see

1651
01:15:19,100 --> 01:15:20,100
what happens. I am not disappointed,

1652
01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:21,100
I'm not surprised we haven't had more

1653
01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:22,100
participation in it, just the way our

1654
01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:23,100
city is structured and as the city

1655
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:24,100
changes I hope these regulations

1656
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:25,100
become permanent we start getting

1657
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:26,100
businesses, Start to build around

1658
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:27,100
this concept that we can have

1659
01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:28,100
something like Edmonds we can have a

1660
01:15:28,100 --> 01:15:29,100
public street scene that we all

1661
01:15:29,100 --> 01:15:30,100
participate in. We've got parts of

1662
01:15:30,100 --> 01:15:31,100
that, North city Richmond Beach

1663
01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:32,100
there's other neighborhoods. This

1664
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:33,100
other neighborhoods where that starts

1665
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:34,100
and I'm hoping we can develop even

1666
01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:35,100
further as time goes on in these

1667
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:36,100
regulations only encourage it.

1668
01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:37,100
Councilmember Roberts?

1669
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:38,100
>>Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to

1670
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:41,100
say I could your sentiments.I think

1671
01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:43,100
that there is optimism in sort of

1672
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:45,401
looking forward with developments

1673
01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:49,100
around light-rail stations, I think

1674
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:52,601
there's going to beAs our previous

1675
01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:55,401
economic development director talked

1676
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:58,100
about is that place making field and

1677
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:01,601
that's whatYou have a certain number

1678
01:16:05,100 --> 01:16:06,100
of businesses as councilmember

1679
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:07,100
McConnell talked about sort of

1680
01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:11,201
vibrancy of the street, That sort of

1681
01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:13,100
brings people to get out, that brings

1682
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:17,201
and one business to business is doing

1683
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:20,100
especially if they're working near

1684
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:21,100
each other start to have that

1685
01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:22,100
streetscape where people commentAnd

1686
01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:26,801
want to sort of come and lingerAnd say

1687
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:30,601
that place looks interesting. So I

1688
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:32,100
am very excited about this and I

1689
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:35,601
think when paired with ourThe review

1690
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:51,100
of our regulations that are coming in

1691
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:52,100
shortly I think we have this great

1692
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:53,100
opportunity to sort of make shoreline

1693
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:54,100
especially our light rail station

1694
01:16:54,100 --> 01:16:55,100
areas very vibrant place. Thank you,

1695
01:16:55,100 --> 01:16:56,100
Mayor.

1696
01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:57,100
>>Thank you. Any other questions or

1697
01:16:57,100 --> 01:16:58,100
comments?Seeing none, when we do see

1698
01:16:58,100 --> 01:16:59,100
this comeback?

1699
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,100
>>This is scheduled for action on

1700
01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:02,100
June 6.

1701
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:06,100
>>Is there, was councils opinions on

1702
01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:07,100
consent? And you do a thumbs up on

1703
01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:10,100
consent? Okay. It looks like

1704
01:17:18,100 --> 01:17:19,100
unanimous thumbs up. Let's put it

1705
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:20,100
consent and thank you for the

1706
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:21,100
excellent presentation.

1707
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:22,100
Next up a study item 9A, discussion

1708
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:23,100
of 9166 amending the shoreline

1709
01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:25,100
municipalCode deferring underground

1710
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:27,100
facilities. Since my screen is it

1711
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:28,100
working I don't know the staff

1712
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:30,100
members.

1713
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:32,100
>>I will be presenting this item

1714
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:35,100
tonight. John Noris, city manager,

1715
01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:41,100
good evening, Mayor, Deputy Mayor,

1716
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:42,100
and Council pick with me tonight as

1717
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:43,100
well is tritium

1718
01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:45,100
: Our city engineer. So she will

1719
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:46,100
answer any questions as well that the

1720
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:49,100
Council may have. And this is a

1721
01:17:49,100 --> 01:17:52,100
discussionAs the mayor mentioned and

1722
01:17:55,100 --> 01:17:57,100
you can see the title of the ordinance

1723
01:17:57,100 --> 01:18:01,100
on our slide here. Just by way of

1724
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:03,401
background as Council recallsOn

1725
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:07,100
February 28 you discuss the required

1726
01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:10,100
electrical utility under grounding in

1727
01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:27,100
the South Shore line 148 light rail

1728
01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:28,100
station area and the challenges that

1729
01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:29,100
both sound transit members of the

1730
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:30,100
development community were having

1731
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:31,100
with regard to meeting the cities

1732
01:18:31,100 --> 01:18:32,100
underground code given the delay

1733
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:33,100
Seattle city lights Fifth Avenue duct

1734
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:34,100
bank project which is an underground

1735
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:35,100
project replacingThree-phase

1736
01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:36,100
electrical cable that is currently in

1737
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:38,401
the ground running north-south

1738
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:43,100
up-and-down Fifth Avenue North East.

1739
01:18:43,100 --> 01:18:44,100
Given the delay, sound transit is a

1740
01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:45,100
private developers expressed the city

1741
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:46,100
and Seattle city light the need for

1742
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:47,100
both overheadTemporary construction

1743
01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:49,401
three-phase powerTo construct their

1744
01:18:52,100 --> 01:18:53,100
large projects and for that overhead

1745
01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:56,601
interim power to continue to energize

1746
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:09,100
Or operationalize their new

1747
01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:10,100
developments until that duct bank

1748
01:19:10,100 --> 01:19:11,100
project is complete. On March 7 the

1749
01:19:11,100 --> 01:19:12,100
city Council adopted ordinance 958

1750
01:19:12,100 --> 01:19:13,100
which addressed the 1st issue, so

1751
01:19:13,100 --> 01:19:14,100
that was that allowed for temporary

1752
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:15,100
construction powerAnd tonight

1753
01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:18,100
bringing you back ordinance 966 take

1754
01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:21,100
a look at the 2nd issue there that

1755
01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:24,100
Council discussed on February 28. So

1756
01:19:30,100 --> 01:19:31,100
in front of Council tonight is

1757
01:19:31,100 --> 01:19:32,100
ordinance 966 which provides for new

1758
01:19:32,100 --> 01:19:33,100
section of the municipal code which

1759
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:34,100
is section 1320 060, so this is all

1760
01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:37,100
newMunicipal code language in that

1761
01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:39,100
section. It allows for interim

1762
01:19:39,100 --> 01:19:42,601
overhead power within the limited area

1763
01:19:44,100 --> 01:19:45,100
If a property owner who would need

1764
01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:46,100
that power to operationalize their

1765
01:19:46,100 --> 01:19:49,601
property enters into what we are

1766
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:51,100
calling a deferred underground

1767
01:19:51,100 --> 01:19:52,100
facilities agreement or Adolfo for

1768
01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:55,601
short, Everything needs an acronym so

1769
01:19:57,100 --> 01:19:58,100
that's the acronym we have chosen.

1770
01:19:58,100 --> 01:20:01,100
The deaf would be good for 5 years

1771
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:02,100
from the date of the issuance of the

1772
01:20:02,100 --> 01:20:03,100
development permits for development

1773
01:20:03,100 --> 01:20:05,100
project or for projects that of

1774
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:07,401
already been issued development

1775
01:20:20,100 --> 01:20:21,100
permit such as the sound transit

1776
01:20:21,100 --> 01:20:22,100
project, the five-year timeframe

1777
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:23,100
would start on the potential adoption

1778
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:24,100
of this code section about Council

1779
01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:25,100
does approve this which is currently

1780
01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:26,100
scheduled for June 6, 2 weeks from

1781
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:27,100
now. The code will also allow for12

1782
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:31,100
year extension if through no fault of

1783
01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:32,100
the applicant Seattle city light

1784
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:33,100
underground project is not completed

1785
01:20:33,100 --> 01:20:36,100
within the five-year timeframe and

1786
01:20:39,100 --> 01:20:40,100
the applicant requesting the deaf oh

1787
01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:41,100
would need to design and construct

1788
01:20:41,100 --> 01:20:42,100
underground electrical utility

1789
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:44,401
infrastructureWhich is typically an

1790
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:06,100
underground vault that would go on

1791
01:21:06,100 --> 01:21:07,100
their property are potentially in the

1792
01:21:07,100 --> 01:21:08,100
city right-of-way to make for that

1793
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:09,100
future connection, so that would have

1794
01:21:09,100 --> 01:21:10,100
to be agreed to in the deaf at that

1795
01:21:10,100 --> 01:21:11,100
they would construct that as part of

1796
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:12,100
their development project. So that

1797
01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:13,100
that future underground connection

1798
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:14,100
could be made and they would also

1799
01:21:14,100 --> 01:21:15,100
need to initiate a permit in the

1800
01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:16,100
future of Seattle city light doesn't

1801
01:21:16,100 --> 01:21:17,100
do this automatically to make sure

1802
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:20,601
Seattle city light bins connects their

1803
01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:22,100
Fifth Avenue duct bank underground

1804
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:23,100
project to their development in the

1805
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:24,100
future. So we want to make sure that

1806
01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:25,100
the development is ready for that

1807
01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:26,100
underground connection and that the

1808
01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:29,100
connection is made in the future.

1809
01:21:29,100 --> 01:21:30,100
This is the map of the proposed stuff

1810
01:21:30,100 --> 01:21:31,100
at designated area, so it is the area

1811
01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:33,401
outlined in the orange

1812
01:21:39,100 --> 01:21:40,100
triangular-shaped there, the reason

1813
01:21:40,100 --> 01:21:41,100
why this initial designated area was

1814
01:21:41,100 --> 01:21:42,100
selected as this is basically the

1815
01:21:42,100 --> 01:21:45,100
rough outline of whereThe 1st 10

1816
01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:48,100
blocks of the Fifth Avenue duct bank

1817
01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:49,100
project were served, so it doesn't

1818
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:51,100
serve obviously the entireEast area,

1819
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:55,201
if you will, of the148 station area

1820
01:22:04,100 --> 01:22:05,100
as Council may recall, there is

1821
01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:06,100
overhead three-phase power running

1822
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:07,100
north and south up and down 8th

1823
01:22:07,100 --> 01:22:08,100
Avenue, and so any developmentIn the

1824
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:11,601
eastern portion of the light rail

1825
01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:20,100
station area out to the east of that

1826
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:21,100
orange line would likely be served

1827
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:22,100
through the connection that would

1828
01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:23,100
determine where that connection would

1829
01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:26,601
be but this is whyThis initial

1830
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:35,100
designated area was selected.

1831
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:36,100
Obviously the designated area could

1832
01:22:36,100 --> 01:22:37,100
be expanded if there is a need to do

1833
01:22:37,100 --> 01:22:38,100
that. But on the February 28 staff

1834
01:22:38,100 --> 01:22:39,100
heard from Council the desire to keep

1835
01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:42,601
this, keep these regulations as tight

1836
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:45,100
as possible and so identifying the

1837
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:46,100
designated area around where that

1838
01:22:46,100 --> 01:22:47,100
Fifth Avenue duct bank project will

1839
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:48,100
serve was what was selectedFor your

1840
01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:50,100
consideration tonight.

1841
01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:01,100
So finally it's ordinance 966 has a

1842
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:02,100
component for requirements of the

1843
01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:03,100
electric utility service provider in

1844
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:04,100
the city which of course is Seattle

1845
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:08,201
city light. It would require them to

1846
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:33,100
coordinate and perform work for these

1847
01:23:33,100 --> 01:23:34,100
interim overhead facilities. This

1848
01:23:34,100 --> 01:23:35,100
includes appropriate design and

1849
01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:36,100
construction of the interim power

1850
01:23:36,100 --> 01:23:37,100
goals, we do not want those goals and

1851
01:23:37,100 --> 01:23:38,100
wires to once installed to preclude

1852
01:23:38,100 --> 01:23:39,100
any future development. We want to

1853
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:40,100
make sure the setbacks, the height of

1854
01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:41,100
those poles and wires, there are

1855
01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:42,100
specific setbacks needed, Seattle

1856
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:43,100
city light has requirements of

1857
01:23:43,100 --> 01:23:44,100
setbacks from their infrastructure,

1858
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:45,100
want to make sure that is in

1859
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:48,601
precluding any future, so there's a

1860
01:23:51,100 --> 01:23:52,100
requirement that they are designed

1861
01:23:52,100 --> 01:23:53,100
and that by way on the utility also

1862
01:23:53,100 --> 01:23:54,100
requirement for attending new goal of

1863
01:23:54,100 --> 01:23:55,100
the overhead pulse from city light

1864
01:23:55,100 --> 01:23:56,100
once the duct bank is completed and

1865
01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:57,100
the code also provides for

1866
01:23:57,100 --> 01:23:58,100
enforcement provisions against city

1867
01:23:58,100 --> 01:23:59,100
light if they fail to comply with

1868
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:02,601
this code. Again, we have been

1869
01:24:06,100 --> 01:24:07,100
Sharing this information with key

1870
01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:08,100
stakeholders. You can see the

1871
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:09,100
stakeholders there including Seattle

1872
01:24:09,100 --> 01:24:10,100
city light. This is a fairly

1873
01:24:10,100 --> 01:24:11,100
complicated issue, at least has been

1874
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:12,100
for myself if there a lot of

1875
01:24:12,100 --> 01:24:13,100
intricacies to it, we at the staff

1876
01:24:13,100 --> 01:24:14,100
level did not want to create any

1877
01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:17,100
unintended consequences so in the

1878
01:24:19,100 --> 01:24:20,100
future a stakeholder could not meet

1879
01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:21,100
code requirements. I was helpful to

1880
01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:24,100
receive feedback. Some that feedback

1881
01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:25,100
was incorporated into the code in

1882
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:29,201
front Council tonight. As well as I

1883
01:24:34,100 --> 01:24:35,100
hopefully Council is aware I did

1884
01:24:35,100 --> 01:24:36,100
provide an additional memo to Council

1885
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:37,100
today, we did receive some additional

1886
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:39,100
feedback. Last week after the staff

1887
01:24:39,100 --> 01:24:42,100
report was issued and I am happy to

1888
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:45,100
provideAny questions or answer any

1889
01:24:56,100 --> 01:24:57,100
questions Council may have about

1890
01:24:57,100 --> 01:24:58,100
that. Staff in that memo did

1891
01:24:58,100 --> 01:24:59,100
proposed, of a friendly amendment, if

1892
01:24:59,100 --> 01:25:00,100
you will, to what is in proposed

1893
01:25:00,100 --> 01:25:01,100
ordinance 966, which is in the

1894
01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:04,100
Council packet given the intricacies

1895
01:25:31,100 --> 01:25:32,100
of pole removal, so it's not just

1896
01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:33,100
Seattle city light that is removing

1897
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:34,100
their polls. And most cases they are

1898
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:35,100
also telecommunication companies that

1899
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:36,100
are hanging their wires, so to speak,

1900
01:25:36,100 --> 01:25:37,100
are attaching their wires to Seattle

1901
01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:38,100
city light poles as part of the

1902
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:39,100
removal process those

1903
01:25:39,100 --> 01:25:40,100
telecommunication or fiber-optic or

1904
01:25:40,100 --> 01:25:41,100
cable companies are doing that

1905
01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:42,100
removal, and so the feedback received

1906
01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:43,100
from city light is we want to make

1907
01:25:43,100 --> 01:25:44,100
sure to provide enough time for all

1908
01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:45,100
of that work to happen so that those

1909
01:25:45,100 --> 01:25:46,100
interim poles again once the

1910
01:25:46,100 --> 01:25:47,100
underground project is complete can

1911
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:48,100
be removed in a timely way while we

1912
01:25:48,100 --> 01:25:49,100
are still able in our code to kind of

1913
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:50,100
hold accountable city light to make

1914
01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:51,100
sure that work is accomplished.

1915
01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:52,100
No action is required tonight with

1916
01:25:52,100 --> 01:25:53,100
regard to a recommendation from

1917
01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:54,100
staff. This is an opportunity for

1918
01:25:54,100 --> 01:25:57,100
Council asking questions of staff

1919
01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:11,100
regarding this, providing feedback,

1920
01:26:11,100 --> 01:26:12,100
staff does recommend adoption of

1921
01:26:12,100 --> 01:26:13,100
ordinance 966 when this is brought

1922
01:26:13,100 --> 01:26:14,100
back to Council on June 6. Again,

1923
01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:15,100
with those staff recommended

1924
01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:16,100
amendments as I just mentioned and I

1925
01:26:16,100 --> 01:26:17,100
do have those on the slide, I would

1926
01:26:17,100 --> 01:26:18,100
be happy to pull that up if Council

1927
01:26:18,100 --> 01:26:19,100
has any specific questions about

1928
01:26:19,100 --> 01:26:20,100
that. With that, happy to answer any

1929
01:26:20,100 --> 01:26:21,100
questions. Make any questions or

1930
01:26:21,100 --> 01:26:22,100
comments from Council?Councilmember

1931
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:24,100
Roberts?

1932
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:26,100
>>Thank you. I have a couple of

1933
01:26:26,100 --> 01:26:27,100
questions and then questions about

1934
01:26:27,100 --> 01:26:30,100
the proposed amendment. The 1st

1935
01:26:30,100 --> 01:26:31,100
question is in your do for, is that

1936
01:26:31,100 --> 01:26:34,601
how we're describing this?It includes

1937
01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:50,100
some annual are 45 zone. And the

1938
01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:51,100
ordinance that was adopted earlier

1939
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:52,100
this year, we limited under sort of

1940
01:26:52,100 --> 01:26:53,100
temporary underground or overhead

1941
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:54,100
wires to him you are 70. Do we need

1942
01:26:54,100 --> 01:26:55,100
to go back andRevisit that ordinance

1943
01:26:55,100 --> 01:26:58,100
to includeMR 45, or make it even

1944
01:26:58,100 --> 01:27:02,201
tighter and say that develop sort of

1945
01:27:03,100 --> 01:27:04,100
this do for language for that

1946
01:27:04,100 --> 01:27:06,100
ordinance as well?

1947
01:27:10,100 --> 01:27:11,100
>>Great question, councilmember, and

1948
01:27:11,100 --> 01:27:12,100
staff did have this discussion about

1949
01:27:12,100 --> 01:27:14,401
reconciling the allowance for

1950
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:21,100
temporary construction power poles in

1951
01:27:21,100 --> 01:27:22,100
the right-of-way which is only in MMU

1952
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:24,100
are 70 as you rightly pointed out.It

1953
01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:27,601
is most likely thatAn agency or

1954
01:27:29,100 --> 01:27:32,100
developer applying for a do for would

1955
01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:35,100
likelyTakeAn interim power pole that

1956
01:27:43,100 --> 01:27:44,100
would be allowed, and then utilize

1957
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:47,601
that on an operational basis. So

1958
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:56,100
that would, again, those temporary

1959
01:27:56,100 --> 01:27:57,100
construction power poles are only

1960
01:27:57,100 --> 01:27:58,100
allowed the MER 70, so Council could

1961
01:27:58,100 --> 01:27:59,100
go back and we did not bring this

1962
01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:01,100
forward as part of this ordinance,

1963
01:28:01,100 --> 01:28:02,100
expand into the M you are 45 as you

1964
01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:04,401
mentioned, that allowance for

1965
01:28:07,100 --> 01:28:08,100
Temporary construction power poles.

1966
01:28:08,100 --> 01:28:09,100
It is possible that there may be a

1967
01:28:09,100 --> 01:28:13,801
need or there could be a time at

1968
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:20,100
which there is a need for an interim

1969
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:21,100
power that wasn't constructed off of

1970
01:28:21,100 --> 01:28:23,100
a temporary power pole. You could

1971
01:28:23,100 --> 01:28:26,100
also scale backThe designated Duff

1972
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:34,100
area, as you mentioned, kinda make

1973
01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:38,100
that orange area a little tighter. I

1974
01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:39,100
think there may be some proposed

1975
01:28:39,100 --> 01:28:42,601
development and then him you are 45

1976
01:28:43,100 --> 01:28:44,100
Zone in the future, so that may then

1977
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:46,401
preclude them fromAgain utilizing

1978
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:52,100
this until that Fifth Avenue duct

1979
01:28:52,100 --> 01:28:55,601
bank project is complete. You would

1980
01:29:04,100 --> 01:29:05,100
have a dude out for Bates Avenue in

1981
01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:06,100
here for mems of the development

1982
01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:07,100
community, that may be a challenge

1983
01:29:07,100 --> 01:29:08,100
for them to then incorporate that

1984
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:09,100
cost in their development projects.

1985
01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:10,100
So all of those are options for

1986
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:11,100
Council. We felt like having an

1987
01:29:11,100 --> 01:29:13,401
inconsistency at the outsetIsn't

1988
01:29:14,100 --> 01:29:17,601
necessarily a problem. It may be

1989
01:29:19,100 --> 01:29:20,100
that Council and I guess from staff's

1990
01:29:20,100 --> 01:29:22,100
recommendation our recommendation

1991
01:29:28,100 --> 01:29:29,100
initially on temporary construction

1992
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:30,100
goals was not to limit it just the

1993
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:34,201
MER 70 area or MER 70 zone and soYou

1994
01:29:52,100 --> 01:29:53,100
could go back and fix that in the

1995
01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:54,100
future.

1996
01:29:54,100 --> 01:29:55,100
>>We are not adopting the do for zone

1997
01:29:55,100 --> 01:29:56,100
itself. We're just saying that there

1998
01:29:56,100 --> 01:29:57,100
(INAUDIBLE).

1999
01:29:57,100 --> 01:29:58,100
>>That's correct. The way that the

2000
01:29:58,100 --> 01:29:59,100
code as currently proposed allows for

2001
01:29:59,100 --> 01:30:00,100
the director, which is director of

2002
01:30:00,100 --> 01:30:01,100
public works, to identify what that

2003
01:30:01,100 --> 01:30:02,100
zone is, the map that was included

2004
01:30:02,100 --> 01:30:03,100
was soCouncil was aware of what

2005
01:30:03,100 --> 01:30:04,100
staffs intention would be as an

2006
01:30:04,100 --> 01:30:05,100
initial map and it would be staffs

2007
01:30:05,100 --> 01:30:06,100
intention to just expand the map, we

2008
01:30:06,100 --> 01:30:07,100
would do that very judiciously, I'm

2009
01:30:07,100 --> 01:30:08,100
sure we would share with Council

2010
01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:11,601
before there was anyChange to that,

2011
01:30:12,100 --> 01:30:14,100
so it doesn't impact the code.

2012
01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:17,100
>>My 2nd question isAround the

2013
01:30:19,100 --> 01:30:22,100
temporary pulls. I know normally

2014
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:27,100
Seattle city light is renting their

2015
01:30:27,100 --> 01:30:28,100
space through a variety of different

2016
01:30:28,100 --> 01:30:30,100
utilities, Most notably cable, but at

2017
01:30:30,100 --> 01:30:33,100
least today cablePreviously unmet was

2018
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:37,100
telephone wires and the like and

2019
01:30:37,100 --> 01:30:40,601
probably still is.The question is

2020
01:30:54,100 --> 01:30:55,100
There's nothing in the code that

2021
01:30:55,100 --> 01:30:56,100
prohibits Seattle city light from

2022
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:57,100
renting temporary poles for these

2023
01:30:57,100 --> 01:30:58,100
projects. We have the sense from

2024
01:30:58,100 --> 01:30:59,100
Seattle city light they are planning

2025
01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:00,100
to rent those poles for these

2026
01:31:00,100 --> 01:31:01,100
processes?

2027
01:31:01,100 --> 01:31:04,100
>>Yes, because some of these polls

2028
01:31:04,100 --> 01:31:05,100
may replace existing single phase

2029
01:31:05,100 --> 01:31:09,201
poles I think it is likely thatThe

2030
01:31:11,100 --> 01:31:13,401
telecom or fiber-optic whole

2031
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:26,100
attacher's that is kind of the term

2032
01:31:26,100 --> 01:31:27,100
we use, so those other companies that

2033
01:31:27,100 --> 01:31:28,100
are attaching to Seattle city light

2034
01:31:28,100 --> 01:31:29,100
poles very well may be on these

2035
01:31:29,100 --> 01:31:30,100
interim poles. In speaking with

2036
01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:31,100
their economic development program

2037
01:31:31,100 --> 01:31:34,100
managerThis code again allows for

2038
01:31:36,100 --> 01:31:37,100
operational power for future

2039
01:31:37,100 --> 01:31:38,100
development projects, and it is

2040
01:31:38,100 --> 01:31:41,100
likely that fiber-optic or telecom

2041
01:31:50,100 --> 01:31:51,100
providers very well may way want,

2042
01:31:51,100 --> 01:31:52,100
that may be the easiest connection in

2043
01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:53,100
the interim is to use these interim

2044
01:31:53,100 --> 01:31:54,100
poles to connect to those future

2045
01:31:54,100 --> 01:31:55,100
development projects until, again,

2046
01:31:55,100 --> 01:31:59,201
the duct bank project is complete. So

2047
01:32:06,100 --> 01:32:07,100
We don't quite know exactly what the

2048
01:32:07,100 --> 01:32:08,100
future would hold, but it's our sense

2049
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:09,100
that it's likely that these polls

2050
01:32:09,100 --> 01:32:10,100
would have those 3rd parties attached

2051
01:32:10,100 --> 01:32:11,100
to them.

2052
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:12,100
>>Thank you. My my last question is

2053
01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:13,100
about the specific amendment and in

2054
01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:17,801
the deed to be, both in the amendment

2055
01:32:18,100 --> 01:32:19,100
and in the sort of original draft, it

2056
01:32:19,100 --> 01:32:20,100
talks about 2 different things, the

2057
01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:21,100
completely capital project, and then

2058
01:32:21,100 --> 01:32:24,601
you have the connection.There seems

2059
01:32:29,100 --> 01:32:30,100
like there could be some difference

2060
01:32:30,100 --> 01:32:31,100
of when the connection can occur

2061
01:32:31,100 --> 01:32:34,601
before the project is complete. I

2062
01:32:36,100 --> 01:32:37,100
mean at least in theory is there may

2063
01:32:37,100 --> 01:32:38,100
be other work that has to be done

2064
01:32:38,100 --> 01:32:41,601
after the connectionIs done. So I'm

2065
01:32:45,100 --> 01:32:46,100
wondering if there needs to be some

2066
01:32:46,100 --> 01:32:47,100
clarity about what is the time point

2067
01:32:47,100 --> 01:32:50,100
the clock starts, whether it'sThe

2068
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:53,100
actual connection or the completion

2069
01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:58,100
of the project? I don't know if, I am

2070
01:32:58,100 --> 01:32:59,100
wondering if it needs to be cleaned

2071
01:32:59,100 --> 01:33:01,100
up before it's adopted is my comment

2072
01:33:01,100 --> 01:33:03,100
at this point.

2073
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:11,100
>>Mayor, if I can respond to that.

2074
01:33:11,100 --> 01:33:12,100
>>Please do.

2075
01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:15,100
>>Yes, great point, definitelyI know

2076
01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:20,100
it gets a little wordy here in terms

2077
01:33:20,100 --> 01:33:21,100
of what we are proposing. I think

2078
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:22,100
the intent was and we can deafly take

2079
01:33:22,100 --> 01:33:24,100
a look at to make sure we're not using

2080
01:33:24,100 --> 01:33:25,100
Different terms for the same meaning.

2081
01:33:25,100 --> 01:33:28,601
I think the point is onceThe

2082
01:33:33,100 --> 01:33:34,100
underground project is energized and

2083
01:33:34,100 --> 01:33:35,100
so I guess that would be kind of when

2084
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:38,100
it's connection is made they can then

2085
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:39,100
stop using those overhead facilities

2086
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:41,100
to energizeWhatever future

2087
01:33:42,100 --> 01:33:44,401
development project or transit

2088
01:33:47,100 --> 01:33:48,100
project or the AAA project asunder

2089
01:33:48,100 --> 01:33:51,601
permitting nowAnd that at that point

2090
01:34:06,100 --> 01:34:07,100
the wires that are on the interim

2091
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:08,100
overhead poles can be removed from,

2092
01:34:08,100 --> 01:34:09,100
by Seattle city light, that would be

2093
01:34:09,100 --> 01:34:10,100
the 1st step, they would go in and

2094
01:34:10,100 --> 01:34:11,100
remove the wires and transformers and

2095
01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:12,100
other facilities is our understanding

2096
01:34:12,100 --> 01:34:13,100
of what the sequencing is. Then

2097
01:34:13,100 --> 01:34:16,100
typicallyAny attackers, any of the

2098
01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:30,100
telecommunication companies, cable

2099
01:34:30,100 --> 01:34:31,100
companies and the like were going

2100
01:34:31,100 --> 01:34:32,100
sequentially remove all of their

2101
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:33,100
wires and then Seattle city light as

2102
01:34:33,100 --> 01:34:34,100
the polymer would come in and finally

2103
01:34:34,100 --> 01:34:35,100
remove the pole. So yes, if there

2104
01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:36,100
is, we can deafly take a look if

2105
01:34:36,100 --> 01:34:37,100
there's cleanup needed in terms of we

2106
01:34:37,100 --> 01:34:38,100
are using both construction and

2107
01:34:38,100 --> 01:34:39,100
connection interchangeably, We don't

2108
01:34:39,100 --> 01:34:40,100
want that in the code, so there isn't

2109
01:34:40,100 --> 01:34:41,100
confusion about what the trigger

2110
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:42,100
point would be. So will deftly take

2111
01:34:42,100 --> 01:34:46,801
a closer look at that.Yes, we were,

2112
01:34:53,100 --> 01:34:54,100
the intent wasn't to have different

2113
01:34:54,100 --> 01:34:55,100
meanings for those terms, I really it

2114
01:34:55,100 --> 01:34:56,100
was once that underground project is

2115
01:34:56,100 --> 01:34:57,100
energized and the connection to those

2116
01:34:57,100 --> 01:35:01,201
buildings is how power is now being

2117
01:35:03,100 --> 01:35:04,100
provided, that's when the overhead

2118
01:35:04,100 --> 01:35:05,100
wires, power isn't being provided the

2119
01:35:05,100 --> 01:35:06,100
overhead and then all those wires.

2120
01:35:06,100 --> 01:35:08,100
>>Thank you.

2121
01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:10,401
>>Thank you. Councilmember Pobee?

2122
01:35:20,100 --> 01:35:21,100
>>Thank you, Mayor. I think part of

2123
01:35:21,100 --> 01:35:22,100
my question has been partially

2124
01:35:22,100 --> 01:35:23,100
answered, I think councilmember

2125
01:35:23,100 --> 01:35:24,100
Roberts did ask that, but just for

2126
01:35:24,100 --> 01:35:27,601
clarity sake and thank you, Mr.

2127
01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:30,100
Norris, I always enjoy when we have

2128
01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:31,100
developers making a lot of the

2129
01:35:31,100 --> 01:35:34,601
investment in our city and especially

2130
01:35:36,100 --> 01:35:37,100
just put in the infrastructure by the

2131
01:35:37,100 --> 01:35:38,100
things which is necessary to keep the

2132
01:35:38,100 --> 01:35:39,100
city up and running. I would

2133
01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:42,601
experienceLike we don't want any of

2134
01:35:55,100 --> 01:35:56,100
these errors that come back in for us

2135
01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:57,100
to address again. Just to clarify,

2136
01:35:57,100 --> 01:35:58,100
you said on point number 4 and slide

2137
01:35:58,100 --> 01:35:59,100
3 requires developer to install

2138
01:35:59,100 --> 01:36:00,100
underground infrastructure and that's

2139
01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:01,100
not just for construction base. That

2140
01:36:01,100 --> 01:36:05,201
is after. So I'm wondering,When in

2141
01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:18,100
the process does it take place? Is it

2142
01:36:18,100 --> 01:36:19,100
before permit? And is it already

2143
01:36:19,100 --> 01:36:20,100
going to be in the permitting process

2144
01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:21,100
just like we have the traffic impact

2145
01:36:21,100 --> 01:36:22,100
analysis as part of the whole

2146
01:36:22,100 --> 01:36:23,100
permitting process?

2147
01:36:23,100 --> 01:36:24,100
>>Yes, so the deaf a would require

2148
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:27,100
thatThe underground, and I'm just

2149
01:36:31,100 --> 01:36:32,100
going to use the term vault, it's

2150
01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:33,100
typically a vault or a box, a big

2151
01:36:33,100 --> 01:36:34,100
metal box that's underground, and

2152
01:36:34,100 --> 01:36:35,100
that is where the connection is made

2153
01:36:35,100 --> 01:36:37,401
between the public underground

2154
01:36:39,100 --> 01:36:40,100
projects, Seattle city lights

2155
01:36:40,100 --> 01:36:41,100
project, and then the connection to,

2156
01:36:41,100 --> 01:36:42,100
let's say a multifamily development.

2157
01:36:42,100 --> 01:36:45,100
Generally, andTricia Young key, are

2158
01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:08,100
city engineers here, so I'm going to

2159
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:09,100
not ask you to answer but if I get

2160
01:37:09,100 --> 01:37:10,100
out on a limb and don't answer

2161
01:37:10,100 --> 01:37:11,100
correctly, priests jump in and

2162
01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:12,100
correct me. Generally, that work is

2163
01:37:12,100 --> 01:37:13,100
done as part of the development

2164
01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:14,100
project. So obviously the developer

2165
01:37:14,100 --> 01:37:15,100
needs to make sure the connection to

2166
01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:16,100
their building is there, so they are

2167
01:37:16,100 --> 01:37:17,100
running all of their internal lines

2168
01:37:17,100 --> 01:37:18,100
on their propertyAnd into their

2169
01:37:18,100 --> 01:37:19,100
development. The duffel would

2170
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:20,100
require that that underground

2171
01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:21,100
electrical connection infrastructure,

2172
01:37:21,100 --> 01:37:24,100
that Volt, be completedPrior to the

2173
01:37:24,100 --> 01:37:25,100
development being completed. Can so

2174
01:37:25,100 --> 01:37:30,401
we want to make sure that there is an

2175
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:45,100
agreement that says that this is

2176
01:37:45,100 --> 01:37:46,100
going to happen and the development

2177
01:37:46,100 --> 01:37:47,100
will be able to basically accept

2178
01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:48,100
underground power. What we don't

2179
01:37:48,100 --> 01:37:49,100
want to do is get into a situation

2180
01:37:49,100 --> 01:37:50,100
where a developer says I will just do

2181
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:51,100
that later and they're not able,

2182
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:54,601
then, to accept underground power when

2183
01:37:58,100 --> 01:37:59,100
their operational powers going to be

2184
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:00,100
served through these overhead wires

2185
01:38:00,100 --> 01:38:01,100
in this interim basis. So that's the

2186
01:38:01,100 --> 01:38:02,100
point of that agreement, and we are

2187
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:03,100
asking developer to say yes, I will

2188
01:38:03,100 --> 01:38:04,100
make sure this is part of my

2189
01:38:04,100 --> 01:38:05,100
development project.So you want to,

2190
01:38:05,100 --> 01:38:06,100
if it's really an assurance that on

2191
01:38:06,100 --> 01:38:08,401
the development sideThat the

2192
01:38:10,100 --> 01:38:11,100
development will be ready to make

2193
01:38:11,100 --> 01:38:12,100
that underground connection. So

2194
01:38:12,100 --> 01:38:16,201
that's the whole pointOf part of this

2195
01:38:22,100 --> 01:38:23,100
agreement between the city and the

2196
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:24,100
developer is we are getting an

2197
01:38:24,100 --> 01:38:25,100
assurance that that work is going to

2198
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:26,100
be done in the development will be

2199
01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:27,100
ready for that connection.

2200
01:38:27,100 --> 01:38:28,100
>>Thank you, I appreciate that. I

2201
01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:29,100
really enjoy the part that there's

2202
01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:30,100
going to be in agreementThe people

2203
01:38:30,100 --> 01:38:31,100
can be held accountable. Thank you.

2204
01:38:31,100 --> 01:38:34,100
>>Any other questions or comments

2205
01:38:34,100 --> 01:38:37,601
from Council?All right. Seeing none,

2206
01:38:42,100 --> 01:38:43,100
other than the unfortunate acronym,

2207
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:47,201
is there any objection to this as

2208
01:38:52,100 --> 01:38:53,100
amended by staff being added to the

2209
01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:54,100
consent calendar? Thumbs-up?

2210
01:38:54,100 --> 01:38:55,100
Councilmember Roberts is so so, let's

2211
01:38:55,100 --> 01:38:56,100
go ahead and put this on as an action

2212
01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:58,100
item on the next meeting.Mr. Noris,

2213
01:38:58,100 --> 01:38:59,100
when will that happen?

2214
01:38:59,100 --> 01:39:00,100
>>Is currently scheduled for June 6,

2215
01:39:00,100 --> 01:39:04,801
Mayor, so we can bring it back at

2216
01:39:15,100 --> 01:39:16,100
that time.

2217
01:39:16,100 --> 01:39:17,100
>>Let's look forward to it as an

2218
01:39:17,100 --> 01:39:18,100
action and on June 6. Next up is

2219
01:39:18,100 --> 01:39:19,100
964, planning and community

2220
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:20,100
development staffing request to

2221
01:39:20,100 --> 01:39:21,100
support increased development permit

2222
01:39:21,100 --> 01:39:22,100
volume, believe Miss Marple is doing

2223
01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:23,100
the presentation.

2224
01:39:23,100 --> 01:39:24,100
>>She is joining as a panelist right

2225
01:39:24,100 --> 01:39:26,100
now.

2226
01:39:34,100 --> 01:39:35,100
>>Hi, Miss Marco. Whenever you're

2227
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:36,100
ready.

2228
01:39:36,100 --> 01:39:37,100
>>Anything. Just wait a 2nd for the

2229
01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:38,100
presentation a pop up. Thank you to

2230
01:39:38,100 --> 01:39:40,100
Jessica.

2231
01:39:48,100 --> 01:39:49,100
So good evening, Mayor and Council.

2232
01:39:49,100 --> 01:39:50,100
We really appreciate this opportunity

2233
01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:51,100
to prevent a plan to you for

2234
01:39:51,100 --> 01:39:53,100
additional permanent staffing.

2235
01:39:57,100 --> 01:39:58,100
Development has been occurring at an

2236
01:39:58,100 --> 01:39:59,100
increased and sustained rate since

2237
01:39:59,100 --> 01:40:00,100
about 2015 multiple subareas

2238
01:40:00,100 --> 01:40:03,601
throughout the city. Not only are

2239
01:40:11,100 --> 01:40:12,100
the number of places for people to

2240
01:40:12,100 --> 01:40:13,100
live increasing but much of the

2241
01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:14,100
housing is being built green and with

2242
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:15,100
20% of the units being affordable as

2243
01:40:15,100 --> 01:40:16,100
a requirement to participate in the

2244
01:40:16,100 --> 01:40:18,401
cities incentive programs. With

2245
01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:38,100
this, the skill set for staff and the

2246
01:40:38,100 --> 01:40:39,100
time it takes staff to do review of

2247
01:40:39,100 --> 01:40:40,100
permits has grown with these

2248
01:40:40,100 --> 01:40:41,100
requirements and incentives to

2249
01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:42,100
achieve certified green standards in

2250
01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:43,100
the adoption of more stringent

2251
01:40:43,100 --> 01:40:44,100
version of the state energy code

2252
01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:45,100
which will continue to be amended to

2253
01:40:45,100 --> 01:40:48,100
reduce consumption by 70% in 2031. I

2254
01:40:51,100 --> 01:40:52,100
am also stormwater critical area

2255
01:40:52,100 --> 01:40:53,100
resident of a to become more complex

2256
01:40:53,100 --> 01:40:54,100
to administer as well. I say all

2257
01:40:54,100 --> 01:40:55,100
this to the combination of the

2258
01:40:55,100 --> 01:40:56,100
increased volume of permit

2259
01:40:56,100 --> 01:40:58,401
applications which is representative

2260
01:41:09,100 --> 01:41:10,100
of the success of the planning that

2261
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:11,100
councils have done in the areas to

2262
01:41:11,100 --> 01:41:12,100
create transit oriented development

2263
01:41:12,100 --> 01:41:13,100
and the increased complexity of the

2264
01:41:13,100 --> 01:41:14,100
reviews and inspection along with

2265
01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:15,100
other factors that are noted in the

2266
01:41:15,100 --> 01:41:17,100
staff report, it's now a challengeAnd

2267
01:41:17,100 --> 01:41:18,100
it's begun to exceed the city's

2268
01:41:18,100 --> 01:41:19,100
ability to provide predictable and

2269
01:41:19,100 --> 01:41:22,100
timely reviews and permit issuance.

2270
01:41:24,100 --> 01:41:25,100
So now we are seeking budget

2271
01:41:25,100 --> 01:41:26,100
amendment to hire additional staff to

2272
01:41:26,100 --> 01:41:28,401
provide permitting services. The

2273
01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:30,100
additional requested staff are

2274
01:41:30,100 --> 01:41:34,201
expected to bring our around of 1st

2275
01:41:37,100 --> 01:41:38,100
reviews back to within the 2019

2276
01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:39,100
averages which are shown in the staff

2277
01:41:39,100 --> 01:41:41,100
report.

2278
01:41:46,100 --> 01:41:47,100
So the proposal is for 6.5 full-time

2279
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:49,100
equivalent employees. The 2

2280
01:41:53,100 --> 01:41:54,100
development engineers traffic

2281
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:55,100
engineer senior planner permanent

2282
01:41:55,100 --> 01:41:56,100
technician and administrative

2283
01:41:56,100 --> 01:41:59,601
assistant to would be working almost

2284
01:42:01,100 --> 01:42:02,100
exclusively on permanent processing.

2285
01:42:02,100 --> 01:42:03,100
The addition of these reviewers would

2286
01:42:03,100 --> 01:42:07,801
allow for the creation of what we are

2287
01:42:08,100 --> 01:42:09,100
calling 1/5 group to provide reviews

2288
01:42:09,100 --> 01:42:11,100
to process largely the new buildings,

2289
01:42:11,100 --> 01:42:14,100
the traffic engineer 2 will provide

2290
01:42:27,100 --> 01:42:28,100
Support to permitting for new

2291
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:29,100
buildings and major remodels as well

2292
01:42:29,100 --> 01:42:30,100
as a variety of other development

2293
01:42:30,100 --> 01:42:31,100
projects. Currently the traffic

2294
01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:32,100
review can become a bottleneck in the

2295
01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:33,100
process due to the resource being

2296
01:42:33,100 --> 01:42:34,100
really spread thin over a lot of

2297
01:42:34,100 --> 01:42:37,100
divisions throughout the city. The

2298
01:43:00,100 --> 01:43:01,100
administrative insistent is intended

2299
01:43:01,100 --> 01:43:02,100
to provide overall support for

2300
01:43:02,100 --> 01:43:03,100
permitting tasks such as project

2301
01:43:03,100 --> 01:43:04,100
noticing, applicant registration,

2302
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:05,100
processing of revisions, etc. with

2303
01:43:05,100 --> 01:43:06,100
the idea that this would relieve the

2304
01:43:06,100 --> 01:43:07,100
group reviewers from having to

2305
01:43:07,100 --> 01:43:08,100
perform some of these tasks creating

2306
01:43:08,100 --> 01:43:09,100
more time for them to complete

2307
01:43:09,100 --> 01:43:10,100
reviews, thereby reducing turnaround

2308
01:43:10,100 --> 01:43:11,100
time for permits. We are also

2309
01:43:11,100 --> 01:43:12,100
requesting the ability to increaseAn

2310
01:43:12,100 --> 01:43:15,601
existing GIS position from a .5 FTE

2311
01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:18,100
to a full-time employee. I believe

2312
01:43:18,100 --> 01:43:19,100
the .5 is already approved and this

2313
01:43:19,100 --> 01:43:20,100
would just make it into a one

2314
01:43:20,100 --> 01:43:21,100
full-time employee and this request

2315
01:43:21,100 --> 01:43:23,401
comes from administrative services

2316
01:43:49,100 --> 01:43:50,100
Dear call the city's functional plans

2317
01:43:50,100 --> 01:43:51,100
will need to be updated in the next

2318
01:43:51,100 --> 01:43:52,100
couple of years and all required GIS

2319
01:43:52,100 --> 01:43:53,100
resources, the budgets to complete

2320
01:43:53,100 --> 01:43:54,100
these updates the plans include or

2321
01:43:54,100 --> 01:43:55,100
will include money for GIS

2322
01:43:55,100 --> 01:43:56,100
assistance, the idea here is to

2323
01:43:56,100 --> 01:43:57,100
combine the resources that have or

2324
01:43:57,100 --> 01:43:58,100
will be allocated to GIS support for

2325
01:43:58,100 --> 01:43:59,100
the functional plans and instead

2326
01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:00,100
combine those resources to fund the

2327
01:44:00,100 --> 01:44:01,100
other half of the GIS technician. We

2328
01:44:01,100 --> 01:44:02,100
estimate the approval of this request

2329
01:44:02,100 --> 01:44:03,100
Could reduce permits around time by

2330
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:04,100
about 20% if not more. We are making

2331
01:44:04,100 --> 01:44:05,100
the request in advance of the '23-'24

2332
01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:06,100
by annual budget to buy time to

2333
01:44:06,100 --> 01:44:08,100
recruit and train the staffApproval

2334
01:44:08,100 --> 01:44:09,100
to hire these staff positions will

2335
01:44:09,100 --> 01:44:10,100
certainly reduce permit review

2336
01:44:10,100 --> 01:44:12,100
timelines but it's not necessarily

2337
01:44:12,100 --> 01:44:15,601
the end-all be-all to achieveWhat our

2338
01:44:23,100 --> 01:44:24,100
customers are looking for for

2339
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:25,100
turnaround time so we may need to

2340
01:44:25,100 --> 01:44:26,100
request additional permitting staff

2341
01:44:26,100 --> 01:44:29,100
in the future budget cycle.

2342
01:44:37,100 --> 01:44:38,100
I wanted to take a minute and point

2343
01:44:38,100 --> 01:44:39,100
this out, I'm sorry there's an error

2344
01:44:39,100 --> 01:44:40,100
in your staff report, this slide

2345
01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:43,100
corrects that information here, I

2346
01:44:51,100 --> 01:44:52,100
neglected to carryover the costs that

2347
01:44:52,100 --> 01:44:53,100
are proposed to be paid for from the

2348
01:44:53,100 --> 01:44:54,100
wastewater utility to the total cost

2349
01:44:54,100 --> 01:44:55,100
column. This shows you what

2350
01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:56,100
should've been in your staff report,

2351
01:44:56,100 --> 01:45:00,801
I am sorry about that.So but that,

2352
01:45:16,100 --> 01:45:17,100
this slide is about how we propose

2353
01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:18,100
that this could all be paid for, this

2354
01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:19,100
request, the proposal would largely

2355
01:45:19,100 --> 01:45:20,100
be paid for by permit revenue from

2356
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:21,100
increased sustained permanent

2357
01:45:21,100 --> 01:45:22,100
activity, one-time contribution from

2358
01:45:22,100 --> 01:45:23,100
the general fund balance to offset

2359
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:24,100
the green and affordable housing

2360
01:45:24,100 --> 01:45:25,100
incentives which waive things like

2361
01:45:25,100 --> 01:45:26,100
permit fees, Small percentage would

2362
01:45:26,100 --> 01:45:27,100
be covered by the wastewater utility

2363
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:28,100
because we do, We would be doing

2364
01:45:28,100 --> 01:45:29,100
wastewater reviews with the

2365
01:45:29,100 --> 01:45:31,100
development engineer positionAs well

2366
01:45:31,100 --> 01:45:32,100
as our current wastewater review

2367
01:45:32,100 --> 01:45:36,201
specialist and we also are as I

2368
01:45:39,100 --> 01:45:40,100
explained looking to use project

2369
01:45:40,100 --> 01:45:41,100
budgets for the plan updates to fund

2370
01:45:41,100 --> 01:45:45,201
the GIS position. Based on the fact

2371
01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:51,100
that 92% of the projected permit

2372
01:45:51,100 --> 01:45:52,100
revenue has already been collected as

2373
01:45:52,100 --> 01:45:53,100
of the beginning of May for the

2374
01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:56,100
biennium we feel confidentThat in

2375
01:46:04,100 --> 01:46:05,100
recommending that these positions can

2376
01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:06,100
be funded almost entirely by permit

2377
01:46:06,100 --> 01:46:07,100
revenue into the foreseeable future

2378
01:46:07,100 --> 01:46:08,100
and there's information, of course,

2379
01:46:08,100 --> 01:46:09,100
your staff report that explains that

2380
01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:11,100
a little further.

2381
01:46:16,100 --> 01:46:17,100
And I will just put the

2382
01:46:17,100 --> 01:46:18,100
recommendation up for now, but this

2383
01:46:18,100 --> 01:46:19,100
item could be brought back to the

2384
01:46:19,100 --> 01:46:22,100
Council if desired on July 25. Thank

2385
01:46:22,100 --> 01:46:23,100
you very much for your consideration

2386
01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:24,100
of this request. Please let me know

2387
01:46:24,100 --> 01:46:27,100
if you have any questions.

2388
01:46:28,100 --> 01:46:29,100
>>Thank you, Miss Markel. Further

2389
01:46:29,100 --> 01:46:32,100
questions or comments from Council?

2390
01:46:36,100 --> 01:46:37,100
Councilmember Pobee?

2391
01:46:37,100 --> 01:46:38,100
>>Thank you so much. I appreciate

2392
01:46:38,100 --> 01:46:42,100
how you surprised me because I did it

2393
01:46:42,100 --> 01:46:43,100
and I saw the slide and its change.

2394
01:46:43,100 --> 01:46:47,201
So surprise. All right. I was just

2395
01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:49,100
wondering, now we have possibly

2396
01:46:49,100 --> 01:46:52,100
enough revenue coming in for funding,

2397
01:46:52,100 --> 01:46:55,601
so thinking of revenue source. But

2398
01:47:01,100 --> 01:47:02,100
then to fund all these positions, how

2399
01:47:02,100 --> 01:47:03,100
about a projection in the future? Can

2400
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:04,100
we see some forecasting in case

2401
01:47:04,100 --> 01:47:07,100
revenue for permitsWas the back half,

2402
01:47:07,100 --> 01:47:11,801
how are we going to sustain all these?

2403
01:47:14,100 --> 01:47:15,100
>>Where would you like me to

2404
01:47:15,100 --> 01:47:16,100
responders that just a request for

2405
01:47:16,100 --> 01:47:18,100
the future?

2406
01:47:41,100 --> 01:47:42,100
>>I would appreciate your response.

2407
01:47:42,100 --> 01:47:43,100
I'm not sure what councilmember Pobee

2408
01:47:43,100 --> 01:47:44,100
was looking for.

2409
01:47:44,100 --> 01:47:45,100
>>You said you would.

2410
01:47:45,100 --> 01:47:46,100
>>Yes, please.

2411
01:47:46,100 --> 01:47:47,100
>>We will be doing projections for

2412
01:47:47,100 --> 01:47:48,100
the biennial budget and as part of

2413
01:47:48,100 --> 01:47:49,100
what we looked at for this staff

2414
01:47:49,100 --> 01:47:50,100
report where all the different

2415
01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:51,100
projects that were in the pipeline

2416
01:47:51,100 --> 01:47:52,100
and we have like 7000 units that are

2417
01:47:52,100 --> 01:47:56,801
very, How should I put it? Nothing is

2418
01:48:06,100 --> 01:48:07,100
ever a done deal, but these permits

2419
01:48:07,100 --> 01:48:08,100
have gone a long way and been in

2420
01:48:08,100 --> 01:48:09,100
projection for a good long while,

2421
01:48:09,100 --> 01:48:10,100
property is been purchased, options

2422
01:48:10,100 --> 01:48:11,100
have been purchased, we've been

2423
01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:12,100
tracking them for quite some time and

2424
01:48:12,100 --> 01:48:13,100
our feeling is that through 2025 when

2425
01:48:13,100 --> 01:48:14,100
the station opens that these projects

2426
01:48:14,100 --> 01:48:16,100
Are veryDefinite. And then we also

2427
01:48:16,100 --> 01:48:17,100
have indications from pre-application

2428
01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:20,100
meetings of future projects thatAre

2429
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:32,100
in the works and that shows what's

2430
01:48:32,100 --> 01:48:33,100
going to happen most likely past

2431
01:48:33,100 --> 01:48:34,100
2025, of course he gets a little

2432
01:48:34,100 --> 01:48:35,100
murky the further you go out and

2433
01:48:35,100 --> 01:48:38,601
there are many variables in between

2434
01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:43,100
For with regard to the level of

2435
01:48:43,100 --> 01:48:44,100
development that we are seeing

2436
01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:45,100
currently and 3 2025 we can expect

2437
01:48:45,100 --> 01:48:49,201
the revenue to remainAt I would say

2438
01:48:52,100 --> 01:48:53,100
the $7 million plus per biennium that

2439
01:48:53,100 --> 01:48:54,100
we currently have and had I believe

2440
01:48:54,100 --> 01:48:58,201
last year or last biennium as well.

2441
01:48:59,100 --> 01:49:02,601
All very general at this point.

2442
01:49:04,100 --> 01:49:06,100
>>Anything further, councilmember?

2443
01:49:10,100 --> 01:49:11,100
>>I would be more comfortable if we

2444
01:49:11,100 --> 01:49:13,100
have that showing projections just

2445
01:49:13,100 --> 01:49:16,100
for planning purposes. Thank you.

2446
01:49:16,100 --> 01:49:18,100
>>Miss Terry?

2447
01:49:29,100 --> 01:49:30,100
>>What I will add is as I've worked

2448
01:49:30,100 --> 01:49:31,100
with our budget staff on looking at

2449
01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:32,100
this proposal we have also been in

2450
01:49:32,100 --> 01:49:33,100
the process of updating our 10 year

2451
01:49:33,100 --> 01:49:35,100
forecast andWe believe that based on

2452
01:49:35,100 --> 01:49:36,100
the projections that Miss Markel

2453
01:49:36,100 --> 01:49:38,100
discussed that we would be able to

2454
01:49:38,100 --> 01:49:41,100
sustain the funding for these

2455
01:49:52,100 --> 01:49:53,100
positions through the next 2

2456
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:54,100
biennium's car for the next 4 years,

2457
01:49:54,100 --> 01:49:55,100
and obviously gets a little bit more

2458
01:49:55,100 --> 01:49:56,100
difficult after that, but again,

2459
01:49:56,100 --> 01:49:57,100
these are positions by development

2460
01:49:57,100 --> 01:49:58,100
revenue, Not that anyone wants to be

2461
01:49:58,100 --> 01:49:59,100
in this position, but if we were to

2462
01:49:59,100 --> 01:50:03,801
start to see a sudden decline in the

2463
01:50:06,100 --> 01:50:07,100
future, then we would have to address

2464
01:50:07,100 --> 01:50:08,100
that from a staffing perspective.

2465
01:50:08,100 --> 01:50:09,100
The other piece I would say is that

2466
01:50:09,100 --> 01:50:13,201
we get the revenue upfrontOr a large

2467
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:21,100
part of it, and then there is still

2468
01:50:21,100 --> 01:50:22,100
much review time, so even a lot of

2469
01:50:22,100 --> 01:50:23,100
the revenue that we are seeing we

2470
01:50:23,100 --> 01:50:24,100
really cover work that's going to be

2471
01:50:24,100 --> 01:50:27,100
happeningThrough the beginning of the

2472
01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:29,100
next biennium. So I don't think that

2473
01:50:29,100 --> 01:50:31,401
we couldGuarantee anything beyondThe

2474
01:50:38,100 --> 01:50:39,100
next to Byam's for sure because

2475
01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:43,201
things can change, but I think we

2476
01:50:44,100 --> 01:50:45,100
also recognize that this is work that

2477
01:50:45,100 --> 01:50:49,201
is tied to a specific revenue source

2478
01:50:55,100 --> 01:50:56,100
and will continue to have to monitor

2479
01:50:56,100 --> 01:50:57,100
what that workload is and if things

2480
01:50:57,100 --> 01:50:58,100
were to have significant change than

2481
01:50:58,100 --> 01:50:59,100
we would have to make personnel

2482
01:50:59,100 --> 01:51:00,100
adjustments.

2483
01:51:00,100 --> 01:51:01,100
>>Thank you, Miss Terry.

2484
01:51:01,100 --> 01:51:03,100
>>Councilmember Roberts?

2485
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:05,401
>>Thank you. Councilmember Ramsdell

2486
01:51:12,100 --> 01:51:13,100
Lowered his hand?

2487
01:51:13,100 --> 01:51:14,100
>>He did, we will go back to him.

2488
01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:15,100
>>Okay. I deafly do support this and

2489
01:51:15,100 --> 01:51:17,100
I appreciate the staff recommendation

2490
01:51:17,100 --> 01:51:18,100
That Council supported they will

2491
01:51:18,100 --> 01:51:21,100
start the hiring process nowAnd with

2492
01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:24,100
an ordinance to follow. Obviously

2493
01:51:24,100 --> 01:51:25,100
Can't hire anyone without the

2494
01:51:25,100 --> 01:51:27,100
ordinanceBut at least we can start

2495
01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:30,100
the process, getting applications in

2496
01:51:34,100 --> 01:51:35,100
and the like. But I think what is,

2497
01:51:35,100 --> 01:51:39,100
what I really like about this is that

2498
01:51:39,100 --> 01:51:42,100
From 2019 to 2021 or additions for

2499
01:51:44,100 --> 01:51:46,100
single-family residential, You've

2500
01:51:50,100 --> 01:51:51,100
almost doubled your couple of year

2501
01:51:51,100 --> 01:51:52,100
period. Can it's good that there's a

2502
01:51:52,100 --> 01:51:55,100
lot ofActivity, butWhen you are

2503
01:51:56,100 --> 01:52:00,201
trying to remodel, If you have to

2504
01:52:01,100 --> 01:52:04,100
wait just doubleEvery week waiting

2505
01:52:09,100 --> 01:52:10,100
for a permit is, it feels like a very

2506
01:52:10,100 --> 01:52:13,100
lengthy time and to see that double

2507
01:52:13,100 --> 01:52:17,100
Amount of time is difficult.So I hope

2508
01:52:17,100 --> 01:52:20,601
that this proposal will sort of

2509
01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:23,100
address not only sort of multifamily

2510
01:52:23,100 --> 01:52:26,100
but alsoThose additional models, the

2511
01:52:31,100 --> 01:52:32,100
sort of mid tier, not quite

2512
01:52:32,100 --> 01:52:33,100
over-the-counter but often much

2513
01:52:33,100 --> 01:52:36,601
simpler permits than building a new

2514
01:52:37,100 --> 01:52:38,100
facility. Thank you, Mayor.

2515
01:52:38,100 --> 01:52:39,100
>>Thank you.Debbie Mayor Robertson?

2516
01:52:39,100 --> 01:52:42,601
>>Thank you, Mayor Pete my comments

2517
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:57,100
are going to echo councilmember

2518
01:52:57,100 --> 01:52:58,100
Roberts. I was pleased, very

2519
01:52:58,100 --> 01:52:59,100
delighted, to see this request come

2520
01:52:59,100 --> 01:53:00,100
through. I do think our staff

2521
01:53:00,100 --> 01:53:01,100
planning staff has been stretched too

2522
01:53:01,100 --> 01:53:02,100
thin, I think those wait times are

2523
01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:06,801
far too long and I look forward to

2524
01:53:08,100 --> 01:53:09,100
not just supporting this with seeing

2525
01:53:09,100 --> 01:53:10,100
those numbers come down across the

2526
01:53:10,100 --> 01:53:11,100
board, not just for the big

2527
01:53:11,100 --> 01:53:12,100
development prefer the single-family

2528
01:53:12,100 --> 01:53:13,100
homes as councilmember Robert said.

2529
01:53:13,100 --> 01:53:14,100
Thank you.

2530
01:53:14,100 --> 01:53:16,100
>>Councilmember Ramsdell?

2531
01:53:17,100 --> 01:53:18,100
>>Thank you, Mayor. I just reiterate

2532
01:53:18,100 --> 01:53:19,100
councilmember Roberts comment

2533
01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:21,401
regarding remodels for single-family

2534
01:53:23,100 --> 01:53:24,100
homes, I am actually going through it

2535
01:53:24,100 --> 01:53:28,201
right now, we submitted a permitFor a

2536
01:53:35,100 --> 01:53:36,100
12 x 12 deck and we were told that it

2537
01:53:36,100 --> 01:53:37,100
would be 17 weeks before the permit

2538
01:53:37,100 --> 01:53:38,100
would be approved, so we really

2539
01:53:38,100 --> 01:53:39,100
looking forward to havingA deck this

2540
01:53:39,100 --> 01:53:42,100
summer. Please hireStaff as soon as

2541
01:53:42,100 --> 01:53:44,100
possible. Thank you.

2542
01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:51,100
>>Thank you. Councilmember Mark and

2543
01:53:51,100 --> 01:53:52,100
I apologize for the hide and seek

2544
01:53:52,100 --> 01:53:53,100
with the hand thing. We were working

2545
01:53:53,100 --> 01:53:54,100
at cross purposes.

2546
01:53:54,100 --> 01:53:58,100
>>No problem. I would like to echo

2547
01:53:58,100 --> 01:53:59,100
my colleagues comments, I completely

2548
01:53:59,100 --> 01:54:02,100
agree on the planning commission,

2549
01:54:12,100 --> 01:54:13,100
Planning departments ads. I am

2550
01:54:13,100 --> 01:54:14,100
really encouraged that with the

2551
01:54:14,100 --> 01:54:17,601
amount of the green building and

2552
01:54:26,100 --> 01:54:27,100
appreciate that does take longer to

2553
01:54:27,100 --> 01:54:28,100
get done and want to see it done

2554
01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:29,100
correctly, but director Marco, if I

2555
01:54:29,100 --> 01:54:30,100
could get you to put back up your

2556
01:54:30,100 --> 01:54:31,100
slide that shows the positions,

2557
01:54:31,100 --> 01:54:32,100
please? It would make it easier for

2558
01:54:32,100 --> 01:54:33,100
me to ask my more specific question.

2559
01:54:33,100 --> 01:54:37,201
The GIS person, I know how important

2560
01:54:42,100 --> 01:54:43,100
they are for in all aspects to the

2561
01:54:43,100 --> 01:54:44,100
city, so again, I do not question

2562
01:54:44,100 --> 01:54:47,100
that. I can appreciateHow it's

2563
01:54:54,100 --> 01:54:55,100
needed. I share concerns about the

2564
01:54:55,100 --> 01:54:56,100
future, but for these positions, it

2565
01:54:56,100 --> 01:54:57,100
seems very logical that they are

2566
01:54:57,100 --> 01:54:59,100
required, and I can understand that

2567
01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:03,201
the traffic engineer may be, It would

2568
01:55:04,100 --> 01:55:08,801
be in high demand and there seems to

2569
01:55:09,100 --> 01:55:10,100
be lots of work for traffic engineers

2570
01:55:10,100 --> 01:55:14,801
in the city of Shoreline, But I am

2571
01:55:15,100 --> 01:55:16,100
not clear on the development review

2572
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:19,100
engineers. We have just and 2021,

2573
01:55:21,100 --> 01:55:22,100
the city Council added quite

2574
01:55:22,100 --> 01:55:25,100
significantly toThe number of people

2575
01:55:29,100 --> 01:55:30,100
that were in the Department of Public

2576
01:55:30,100 --> 01:55:34,801
Works, and I am not quite clear, Some

2577
01:55:40,100 --> 01:55:41,100
of them were associated with

2578
01:55:41,100 --> 01:55:42,100
wastewater utilities, so just like to

2579
01:55:42,100 --> 01:55:43,100
have a little bit better

2580
01:55:43,100 --> 01:55:44,100
understanding, please, if you could

2581
01:55:44,100 --> 01:55:45,100
elaborate a little bit more on what

2582
01:55:45,100 --> 01:55:46,100
those people are doingThat speeds up

2583
01:55:46,100 --> 01:55:48,401
thePermit approval process, please?

2584
01:56:12,100 --> 01:56:13,100
>>Mayor, if I may, be glad to answer

2585
01:56:13,100 --> 01:56:14,100
that question.

2586
01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:15,100
>>Please.

2587
01:56:15,100 --> 01:56:16,100
>>Tricia Yankee I think is still

2588
01:56:16,100 --> 01:56:17,100
here, if anything needs to be added.

2589
01:56:17,100 --> 01:56:18,100
The review engineers are really part

2590
01:56:18,100 --> 01:56:19,100
of the permitting process, 1st and

2591
01:56:19,100 --> 01:56:20,100
foremost. They are not part of

2592
01:56:20,100 --> 01:56:21,100
general public works capital programs

2593
01:56:21,100 --> 01:56:24,601
or utilities per se.They support

2594
01:56:59,100 --> 01:57:00,100
permitting. They are just like a

2595
01:57:00,100 --> 01:57:01,100
planner, they are just like a plans

2596
01:57:01,100 --> 01:57:02,100
examiner, those 5 groups that do

2597
01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:03,100
permitting, we can't issue the

2598
01:57:03,100 --> 01:57:04,100
permits without most of those new

2599
01:57:04,100 --> 01:57:05,100
buildings without a development

2600
01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:06,100
review engineer doing their part,

2601
01:57:06,100 --> 01:57:07,100
they do the site development permits,

2602
01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:08,100
they do connections between the

2603
01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:09,100
right-of-way and the building itself.

2604
01:57:09,100 --> 01:57:10,100
So they are very much so dedicated

2605
01:57:10,100 --> 01:57:11,100
to permitting. And they haven't had

2606
01:57:11,100 --> 01:57:12,100
an increase in the number, we haven't

2607
01:57:12,100 --> 01:57:13,100
had an increase in the number of

2608
01:57:13,100 --> 01:57:14,100
development review engineers in a few

2609
01:57:14,100 --> 01:57:15,100
years. I don't know in the last one

2610
01:57:15,100 --> 01:57:16,100
was added, but there are 3 of those

2611
01:57:16,100 --> 01:57:17,100
currently, 3 development review

2612
01:57:17,100 --> 01:57:18,100
engineers, and really, if we make 1

2613
01:57:18,100 --> 01:57:19,100
of the new, If we make a line for

2614
01:57:19,100 --> 01:57:20,100
permitting a review that is equal, if

2615
01:57:20,100 --> 01:57:21,100
we didn't have all 5 teams be equal

2616
01:57:21,100 --> 01:57:22,100
it would create aAnother bottleneck

2617
01:57:22,100 --> 01:57:23,100
because we would be funneling in 5

2618
01:57:23,100 --> 01:57:24,100
people's worth of work into 3 person

2619
01:57:24,100 --> 01:57:25,100
team and they need to be equivalent

2620
01:57:25,100 --> 01:57:26,100
in order to not create bottlenecks.

2621
01:57:26,100 --> 01:57:28,100
To set help answer the questions we

2622
01:57:28,100 --> 01:57:29,100
>>It does, I really appreciate it.

2623
01:57:29,100 --> 01:57:30,100
The one aspect, though, that I'm not

2624
01:57:30,100 --> 01:57:33,100
I don't understand is theAdditional

2625
01:57:36,100 --> 01:57:39,601
positions that were added in 2021 and

2626
01:57:44,100 --> 01:57:45,100
the Sam key, you may be in a better

2627
01:57:45,100 --> 01:57:46,100
position answer that. To they have

2628
01:57:46,100 --> 01:57:47,100
no relationship at all to permitting?

2629
01:57:47,100 --> 01:57:50,601
>>Years was specifically to the new

2630
01:57:52,100 --> 01:57:53,100
positions that were added for the

2631
01:57:53,100 --> 01:57:56,100
wastewater utility? Ann yes, ma'am.

2632
01:58:04,100 --> 01:58:05,100
2021.

2633
01:58:05,100 --> 01:58:06,100
>>Yes, in the '21 budget affected

2634
01:58:06,100 --> 01:58:07,100
2022 that we have just finished

2635
01:58:07,100 --> 01:58:10,601
getting close to finish hiring on?

2636
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:24,100
Only 1 of those positions has a

2637
01:58:24,100 --> 01:58:25,100
tertiary support for development

2638
01:58:25,100 --> 01:58:26,100
review. 1 of the E2 positions was

2639
01:58:26,100 --> 01:58:27,100
geared towards helping on operational

2640
01:58:27,100 --> 01:58:28,100
side. They could provide some

2641
01:58:28,100 --> 01:58:29,100
support, not really support but they

2642
01:58:29,100 --> 01:58:30,100
will be a resource for development

2643
01:58:30,100 --> 01:58:31,100
review when it comes to understanding

2644
01:58:31,100 --> 01:58:32,100
the system. Those positions were

2645
01:58:32,100 --> 01:58:33,100
more in line of reducing our reliance

2646
01:58:33,100 --> 01:58:34,100
on the consultant as well, we are

2647
01:58:34,100 --> 01:58:35,100
currentlyWastewater specialist that

2648
01:58:35,100 --> 01:58:39,201
does do permit reviewDoes rely on the

2649
01:58:48,100 --> 01:58:49,100
consultant for understanding how the

2650
01:58:49,100 --> 01:58:50,100
system works, where their capacity

2651
01:58:50,100 --> 01:58:51,100
issues, things like that. In the

2652
01:58:51,100 --> 01:58:52,100
future, that would go toward 1 of

2653
01:58:52,100 --> 01:58:53,100
their FTEs instead of to the

2654
01:58:53,100 --> 01:58:55,100
consultant.But in general those new

2655
01:58:55,100 --> 01:58:56,100
positions do not provide significant

2656
01:58:56,100 --> 01:58:58,100
development review support.

2657
01:59:05,100 --> 01:59:06,100
>>Thank you. 1 of the concerns I

2658
01:59:06,100 --> 01:59:07,100
think that we all have is we want the

2659
01:59:07,100 --> 01:59:08,100
city to function efficiently, but we

2660
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:11,601
don't want toBuild something so big

2661
01:59:12,100 --> 01:59:16,201
that we can't sustain it.And it

2662
01:59:23,100 --> 01:59:24,100
difficult decisions in the future and

2663
01:59:24,100 --> 01:59:25,100
none of us know what the future is.

2664
01:59:25,100 --> 01:59:26,100
So I want to be very cautious in

2665
01:59:26,100 --> 01:59:27,100
making sure we are only putting

2666
01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:29,100
people on that, We really truly need

2667
01:59:29,100 --> 01:59:33,801
to solve problems that we see for the

2668
01:59:35,100 --> 01:59:37,100
foreseeable future at this time.Thank

2669
01:59:37,100 --> 01:59:39,100
you.

2670
01:59:43,100 --> 01:59:44,100
>>Any further comments or questions

2671
01:59:44,100 --> 01:59:47,601
for Council?All right, we'll just

2672
02:00:00,100 --> 02:00:01,100
add, I appreciate the desire to not

2673
02:00:01,100 --> 02:00:02,100
hire people we can't retain. That

2674
02:00:02,100 --> 02:00:03,100
is, of course, goal, we want to

2675
02:00:03,100 --> 02:00:04,100
provide a good job for a buddy we

2676
02:00:04,100 --> 02:00:05,100
want to not have inconsistencies.

2677
02:00:05,100 --> 02:00:08,100
Our customer base, are citizensAnd

2678
02:00:23,100 --> 02:00:24,100
right now for a variety of reasons we

2679
02:00:24,100 --> 02:00:25,100
are in a boom time and I have heard

2680
02:00:25,100 --> 02:00:26,100
so many times in the limited specter

2681
02:00:26,100 --> 02:00:27,100
my been sort about about post

2682
02:00:27,100 --> 02:00:28,100
pandemic so many times folks have

2683
02:00:28,100 --> 02:00:29,100
told me we can't get permits done.

2684
02:00:29,100 --> 02:00:30,100
That's coming from business,

2685
02:00:30,100 --> 02:00:31,100
homeowners, I'm hearing that more

2686
02:00:31,100 --> 02:00:32,100
than I am stuff about sidewalks and

2687
02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:33,100
trees which in shoreline means it's

2688
02:00:33,100 --> 02:00:34,100
the forefront issue. I want to fix

2689
02:00:34,100 --> 02:00:35,100
that. And I am, I don't want to hire

2690
02:00:35,100 --> 02:00:38,601
somebody in 18 months down the road

2691
02:00:43,100 --> 02:00:44,100
Sam sorry we don't have a job, but as

2692
02:00:44,100 --> 02:00:45,100
long as we are honest and open about

2693
02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:46,100
that, for me, that concern to provide

2694
02:00:46,100 --> 02:00:47,100
consistency in employment is way less

2695
02:00:47,100 --> 02:00:48,100
than the need to provide expedited

2696
02:00:48,100 --> 02:00:49,100
permit returns or even average

2697
02:00:49,100 --> 02:00:52,100
permanent returns. We are falling

2698
02:00:54,100 --> 02:00:55,100
behind on a lot of things. I've

2699
02:00:55,100 --> 02:00:56,100
heard a lot of frustration from folks

2700
02:00:56,100 --> 02:00:57,100
trying to get stuff done, not only in

2701
02:00:57,100 --> 02:00:58,100
our sort of high density areas for

2702
02:00:58,100 --> 02:01:02,201
just and regular areas that I don't,

2703
02:01:18,100 --> 02:01:19,100
I support this, and I hope it's

2704
02:01:19,100 --> 02:01:20,100
sustainable, but if we come back in

2705
02:01:20,100 --> 02:01:21,100
18 months in the construction climate

2706
02:01:21,100 --> 02:01:22,100
has changed, that's a sacrifice I'm

2707
02:01:22,100 --> 02:01:23,100
personally willing to make because I

2708
02:01:23,100 --> 02:01:24,100
think there is a defined need right

2709
02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:25,100
now. I've heard some dissent on

2710
02:01:25,100 --> 02:01:26,100
Council so unless someone wants to

2711
02:01:26,100 --> 02:01:27,100
raise their hand I think this should

2712
02:01:27,100 --> 02:01:28,100
come back as an action item. Would

2713
02:01:28,100 --> 02:01:29,100
anyone like to propose a consent item?

2714
02:01:29,100 --> 02:01:30,100
Okay. So Miss Markel, when will we

2715
02:01:30,100 --> 02:01:33,601
see this as an action item?

2716
02:01:41,100 --> 02:01:42,100
>>Suggested was July 25.

2717
02:01:42,100 --> 02:01:43,100
>>Miss Terry, did you have something

2718
02:01:43,100 --> 02:01:44,100
to add?

2719
02:01:44,100 --> 02:01:45,100
>>I was going to reiterate what

2720
02:01:45,100 --> 02:01:46,100
councilmember Roberts had said and

2721
02:01:46,100 --> 02:01:47,100
was in the staff report, we will move

2722
02:01:47,100 --> 02:01:48,100
forward with starting the hiring

2723
02:01:48,100 --> 02:01:49,100
process, we anticipate the ordinance

2724
02:01:49,100 --> 02:01:50,100
would come backBefore we actually

2725
02:01:50,100 --> 02:01:51,100
hired any individuals but I just

2726
02:01:51,100 --> 02:01:52,100
wanted to make sure Council was

2727
02:01:52,100 --> 02:01:53,100
comfortable with that process.

2728
02:01:53,100 --> 02:01:54,100
>>Is there any objection to Miss Terry

2729
02:01:54,100 --> 02:01:58,201
Hiring?That's a bit cart before the

2730
02:02:00,100 --> 02:02:01,100
horse but my understanding is you

2731
02:02:01,100 --> 02:02:02,100
won't make a final offer unless the

2732
02:02:02,100 --> 02:02:03,100
finding is in place. Is that

2733
02:02:03,100 --> 02:02:05,100
accurate?Any other questions or

2734
02:02:05,100 --> 02:02:06,100
comments on this action item, study

2735
02:02:06,100 --> 02:02:10,201
item? Seeing none, that brings us to

2736
02:02:15,100 --> 02:02:16,100
the last study item which is

2737
02:02:16,100 --> 02:02:17,100
discussion of ordinance number 967

2738
02:02:17,100 --> 02:02:18,100
authorizing the use of eminent domain

2739
02:02:18,100 --> 02:02:19,100
for acquisition of certain real

2740
02:02:19,100 --> 02:02:23,201
property. And I think it's Ms. King

2741
02:02:30,100 --> 02:02:31,100
who is presenting.

2742
02:02:31,100 --> 02:02:32,100
>>Can you hear me?

2743
02:02:32,100 --> 02:02:33,100
>>Ahead whenever you're ready.

2744
02:02:33,100 --> 02:02:34,100
>>Thank you. You have ordinance 967

2745
02:02:34,100 --> 02:02:35,100
discussion on authorizing the use of

2746
02:02:35,100 --> 02:02:36,100
eminent domain

2747
02:02:36,100 --> 02:02:37,100
>>I apologize. I knew about this and

2748
02:02:37,100 --> 02:02:38,100
again I forgot. Councilmember

2749
02:02:38,100 --> 02:02:39,100
Connell, go ahead?

2750
02:02:39,100 --> 02:02:40,100
>>Thank you. I thought I'm just

2751
02:02:40,100 --> 02:02:44,201
going to start butting in. Because I

2752
02:02:56,100 --> 02:02:57,100
want to get off-line. I wanted to

2753
02:02:57,100 --> 02:02:58,100
let the public know and of course the

2754
02:02:58,100 --> 02:02:59,100
Council already knows that I will

2755
02:02:59,100 --> 02:03:00,100
continue to recuse myself from this

2756
02:03:00,100 --> 02:03:01,100
topic and further discussion. There

2757
02:03:01,100 --> 02:03:02,100
were at least one executive sessions

2758
02:03:02,100 --> 02:03:03,100
regarding that and I neverWas at

2759
02:03:03,100 --> 02:03:07,201
those either. SoI am going to sign

2760
02:03:20,100 --> 02:03:21,100
off and wish you all a good evening.

2761
02:03:21,100 --> 02:03:22,100
Thank you, Mayor.

2762
02:03:22,100 --> 02:03:23,100
>>Thank you. Councilmember O'Connell

2763
02:03:23,100 --> 02:03:24,100
lives on the street in question and

2764
02:03:24,100 --> 02:03:25,100
has chosen to recuse herself. Have a

2765
02:03:25,100 --> 02:03:26,100
good night. Ms. King, I apologize,

2766
02:03:26,100 --> 02:03:27,100
go ahead.

2767
02:03:27,100 --> 02:03:28,100
>>No, thank you, Mayor, I have

2768
02:03:28,100 --> 02:03:30,100
forgotten to give her the opportunity.

2769
02:03:30,100 --> 02:03:31,100
What you have here is ordinance 967,

2770
02:03:31,100 --> 02:03:32,100
discussed the authorization of the

2771
02:03:32,100 --> 02:03:33,100
use of eminent domain for the

2772
02:03:33,100 --> 02:03:34,100
acquisition of second-class tidelands

2773
02:03:34,100 --> 02:03:37,601
for public purposes. Except for the

2774
02:03:41,100 --> 02:03:42,100
Second-class tidelands associated

2775
02:03:42,100 --> 02:03:45,100
with Richmond Beach saltwater ParkIn

2776
02:03:51,100 --> 02:03:52,100
the city of Shoreline Puget Sound

2777
02:03:52,100 --> 02:03:53,100
shoreline is in private ownership,

2778
02:03:53,100 --> 02:03:54,100
and that's primarily ownership of

2779
02:03:54,100 --> 02:03:57,100
Burlington (INAUDIBLE).I am not

2780
02:03:58,100 --> 02:04:02,201
seeing my clicker. There we go.Here

2781
02:04:27,100 --> 02:04:28,100
is a picture of the access points on

2782
02:04:28,100 --> 02:04:29,100
the left side is the Richmond Beach

2783
02:04:29,100 --> 02:04:30,100
saltwater Park pedestrian bridge, the

2784
02:04:30,100 --> 02:04:31,100
access to the city poolside lens in

2785
02:04:31,100 --> 02:04:32,100
the mid-the bindle is an authorized

2786
02:04:32,100 --> 02:04:33,100
act grade crossing across the BNSF

2787
02:04:33,100 --> 02:04:34,100
railroad as well to the BNSF on

2788
02:04:34,100 --> 02:04:35,100
tidelands, and then to the right is

2789
02:04:35,100 --> 02:04:36,100
(INAUDIBLE) Park where there is an

2790
02:04:36,100 --> 02:04:37,100
unauthorized crossing to again BNSF

2791
02:04:37,100 --> 02:04:40,100
owned tidelands.This ordinance would

2792
02:04:43,100 --> 02:04:44,100
authorize the use of eminent domain

2793
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:45,100
for the property identified with the

2794
02:04:45,100 --> 02:04:46,100
star on the screen. As provided in

2795
02:04:46,100 --> 02:04:48,401
RCW Chapter 8.12, the propertyWhen

2796
02:05:04,100 --> 02:05:05,100
acquired would add Lanson city's

2797
02:05:05,100 --> 02:05:06,100
public park systems, specifically

2798
02:05:06,100 --> 02:05:07,100
additional second-class tidelands.

2799
02:05:07,100 --> 02:05:08,100
Of course just compensation will be

2800
02:05:08,100 --> 02:05:09,100
paid and provided to the property

2801
02:05:09,100 --> 02:05:10,100
owner. The city's consultant has

2802
02:05:10,100 --> 02:05:11,100
reached out to the property owner and

2803
02:05:11,100 --> 02:05:12,100
the objective is to negotiate a

2804
02:05:12,100 --> 02:05:13,100
purchase and sale agreement with the

2805
02:05:13,100 --> 02:05:14,100
property owner and eminent domain

2806
02:05:14,100 --> 02:05:15,100
would only be used if those efforts

2807
02:05:15,100 --> 02:05:16,100
failed after good faith negotiations

2808
02:05:16,100 --> 02:05:19,601
are exhausted.We would be following

2809
02:05:25,100 --> 02:05:26,100
all the statutory requirements with

2810
02:05:26,100 --> 02:05:27,100
respect to eminent domain as far as

2811
02:05:27,100 --> 02:05:28,100
valuation offers as well as the

2812
02:05:28,100 --> 02:05:31,601
notice the mayor required to provide.

2813
02:05:36,100 --> 02:05:37,100
This would increase the city on

2814
02:05:37,100 --> 02:05:39,401
tidelands by approximately 2.6 acres.

2815
02:05:57,100 --> 02:05:58,100
As you can see it would provide

2816
02:05:58,100 --> 02:05:59,100
access for the red arrow across the

2817
02:05:59,100 --> 02:06:00,100
public bridge and then up 27th Ave.

2818
02:06:00,100 --> 02:06:01,100
NW., it would connect the city on

2819
02:06:01,100 --> 02:06:02,100
tidelands to the south that are

2820
02:06:02,100 --> 02:06:03,100
associated with Richmond Beach

2821
02:06:03,100 --> 02:06:04,100
saltwater Park and it responds to the

2822
02:06:04,100 --> 02:06:05,100
land survey request to require

2823
02:06:05,100 --> 02:06:08,601
shorelineEach access.I think there is

2824
02:06:14,100 --> 02:06:15,100
no action required tonight, Council

2825
02:06:15,100 --> 02:06:16,100
is to discuss and provide feedback on

2826
02:06:16,100 --> 02:06:17,100
the ordinance and whether to

2827
02:06:17,100 --> 02:06:18,100
authorize the use of eminent domain.

2828
02:06:18,100 --> 02:06:19,100
The actual action on that issue will

2829
02:06:19,100 --> 02:06:20,100
be is currently scheduled for June 6,

2830
02:06:20,100 --> 02:06:22,100
2022. And with that I am ready for

2831
02:06:22,100 --> 02:06:24,100
any questions.

2832
02:06:27,100 --> 02:06:28,100
>>This is a study item, so are there

2833
02:06:28,100 --> 02:06:30,100
questions or comments from Council?

2834
02:06:30,100 --> 02:06:32,100
Councilmember Ramsdell?

2835
02:06:36,100 --> 02:06:37,100
>>Thank you, Mayor, I don't want to

2836
02:06:37,100 --> 02:06:39,100
play hide and seek this time. So I

2837
02:06:39,100 --> 02:06:42,100
am wondering about the27thSection

2838
02:06:47,100 --> 02:06:48,100
that there seems to be some dispute

2839
02:06:48,100 --> 02:06:51,601
about who owns thatStreet.I've seen

2840
02:06:56,100 --> 02:06:57,100
some information that indicates that

2841
02:06:57,100 --> 02:07:00,100
BNSF owns or has a right-of-way for

2842
02:07:00,100 --> 02:07:04,201
the entirety of that street and other

2843
02:07:09,100 --> 02:07:10,100
information says that's not the case

2844
02:07:10,100 --> 02:07:11,100
where the Richmond Beach preservation

2845
02:07:11,100 --> 02:07:13,100
SocietyAsserts that the street is

2846
02:07:13,100 --> 02:07:17,201
split in 2, half of it belongs to

2847
02:07:22,100 --> 02:07:23,100
BNSF and half of it belongs to the

2848
02:07:23,100 --> 02:07:24,100
property owners. Did you have any

2849
02:07:24,100 --> 02:07:26,401
clarification regarding that issue?

2850
02:07:27,100 --> 02:07:28,100
>>I do not have any clarification on

2851
02:07:28,100 --> 02:07:31,100
that particular issue here tonight.

2852
02:07:38,100 --> 02:07:39,100
That would be a separate issue that

2853
02:07:39,100 --> 02:07:40,100
would be separate and apart from the

2854
02:07:40,100 --> 02:07:41,100
ordinance that's in front of the

2855
02:07:41,100 --> 02:07:42,100
Council tonight, which is solely

2856
02:07:42,100 --> 02:07:43,100
focused on these particular tidelands

2857
02:07:43,100 --> 02:07:44,100
. But I can certainly look into that

2858
02:07:44,100 --> 02:07:45,100
if the Council would like me to look

2859
02:07:45,100 --> 02:07:47,401
into that issue separately.

2860
02:07:50,100 --> 02:07:52,401
>>Further questions or comments?

2861
02:07:54,100 --> 02:07:55,100
>>I would like to have some clarity

2862
02:07:55,100 --> 02:07:59,201
on that issue.The other question I

2863
02:08:07,100 --> 02:08:08,100
have is regarding access to the

2864
02:08:08,100 --> 02:08:09,100
beach. Currently there is 1 of the

2865
02:08:09,100 --> 02:08:10,100
comments that I have heard is there's

2866
02:08:10,100 --> 02:08:11,100
really to get safe access to the beach

2867
02:08:11,100 --> 02:08:12,100
you need to use that 27thLane get

2868
02:08:12,100 --> 02:08:15,100
access to the beach. GiveThe

2869
02:08:23,100 --> 02:08:24,100
alternatives are to my understanding

2870
02:08:24,100 --> 02:08:25,100
we have to go over the railroad and

2871
02:08:25,100 --> 02:08:26,100
kind of scramble over rocks to get to

2872
02:08:26,100 --> 02:08:27,100
the beach it's my understanding

2873
02:08:27,100 --> 02:08:28,100
correct?

2874
02:08:28,100 --> 02:08:30,100
>>To this particular beachOr to the

2875
02:08:30,100 --> 02:08:31,100
beach in general?

2876
02:08:31,100 --> 02:08:34,601
>>To that particular area of the

2877
02:08:36,100 --> 02:08:37,100
beach?

2878
02:08:37,100 --> 02:08:38,100
>>If you don't utilize 27? You have

2879
02:08:38,100 --> 02:08:42,201
to go over the right-of-way? I will

2880
02:08:45,100 --> 02:08:46,100
let Miss Terry address this issue,

2881
02:08:46,100 --> 02:08:47,100
because she knows the area actually

2882
02:08:47,100 --> 02:08:49,100
better than I do.

2883
02:08:49,100 --> 02:08:50,100
>>I just wanted to remind Council we

2884
02:08:50,100 --> 02:08:52,100
have also made application to

2885
02:08:52,100 --> 02:08:54,401
Burlington Northern for requesting

2886
02:08:56,100 --> 02:08:59,100
lease access to their right-of-way

2887
02:09:00,100 --> 02:09:04,201
That would allow people to traverse to

2888
02:09:15,100 --> 02:09:16,100
this tideland when they're coming

2889
02:09:16,100 --> 02:09:17,100
from the north, people will be able

2890
02:09:17,100 --> 02:09:18,100
to access this tideland if they're

2891
02:09:18,100 --> 02:09:19,100
coming from the south result

2892
02:09:19,100 --> 02:09:20,100
waterpark. So it depends on where

2893
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:21,100
you're coming from, but we do not

2894
02:09:21,100 --> 02:09:22,100
have an answer yet from Burlington

2895
02:09:22,100 --> 02:09:23,100
NorthernOn our release requestBut we

2896
02:09:23,100 --> 02:09:25,401
have made that application.

2897
02:09:40,100 --> 02:09:41,100
>>Thank you, that's all the questions

2898
02:09:41,100 --> 02:09:42,100
I have for the time being.

2899
02:09:42,100 --> 02:09:43,100
>>To Epi Mayor Robertson?

2900
02:09:43,100 --> 02:09:44,100
>>Thank you, Mayor, and thanks to

2901
02:09:44,100 --> 02:09:45,100
everybody who has provided comments

2902
02:09:45,100 --> 02:09:46,100
over the last several days. The

2903
02:09:46,100 --> 02:09:47,100
folks who joined us earlier tonight

2904
02:09:47,100 --> 02:09:48,100
to give their testimony, who are

2905
02:09:48,100 --> 02:09:49,100
remaining on the call todayPeer, will

2906
02:09:49,100 --> 02:09:50,100
just come right out and say I will be

2907
02:09:50,100 --> 02:09:51,100
in support of moving forward with the

2908
02:09:51,100 --> 02:09:52,100
property acquisition of these

2909
02:09:52,100 --> 02:09:54,100
tidelands and extending the beach and

2910
02:09:54,100 --> 02:09:55,100
extending the ownership that we can.

2911
02:09:55,100 --> 02:09:59,100
I think this is the 1stOf many steps

2912
02:09:59,100 --> 02:10:00,100
that it will take to provide safe

2913
02:10:00,100 --> 02:10:03,601
access. That's really what I am

2914
02:10:16,100 --> 02:10:17,100
interested in is preserving the idea

2915
02:10:17,100 --> 02:10:18,100
of in the ability for members of our

2916
02:10:18,100 --> 02:10:19,100
community, members of this

2917
02:10:19,100 --> 02:10:20,100
neighborhood who have been accessing

2918
02:10:20,100 --> 02:10:21,100
that beach for decades to continue to

2919
02:10:21,100 --> 02:10:22,100
be able to do so but to do so in a

2920
02:10:22,100 --> 02:10:25,100
safer way than they have historically.

2921
02:10:25,100 --> 02:10:26,100
I look forward to continued

2922
02:10:26,100 --> 02:10:27,100
discussion, imagine this is the 1st

2923
02:10:27,100 --> 02:10:28,100
of many discussions we will have on

2924
02:10:28,100 --> 02:10:29,100
this matter. Thank you.

2925
02:10:29,100 --> 02:10:31,401
>>Thank you. Councilmember Mork?

2926
02:10:34,100 --> 02:10:35,100
>>I would like to echo Depp you Mayor

2927
02:10:35,100 --> 02:10:37,401
Robertson's comments. I so

2928
02:10:38,100 --> 02:10:41,100
appreciate everybody's time to calm

2929
02:10:49,100 --> 02:10:50,100
and talk to us and give us our views

2930
02:10:50,100 --> 02:10:51,100
and read the ordinance and all the

2931
02:10:51,100 --> 02:10:52,100
input I think is just wonderful and I

2932
02:10:52,100 --> 02:10:55,601
would like to thank everybody involved

2933
02:10:58,100 --> 02:10:59,100
. 1 of the things I wasn't clear on

2934
02:10:59,100 --> 02:11:00,100
and perhaps Ms. King I got confused

2935
02:11:00,100 --> 02:11:04,201
even with your last answer, Some of

2936
02:11:07,100 --> 02:11:08,100
the commenters pointed out, that they

2937
02:11:08,100 --> 02:11:09,100
felt that 27th Ave. should not have

2938
02:11:09,100 --> 02:11:12,100
car parking that would be allowed as

2939
02:11:12,100 --> 02:11:13,100
part of this. Is that part of this

2940
02:11:13,100 --> 02:11:16,100
resolution in any way or if the

2941
02:11:16,100 --> 02:11:17,100
Council wanted to include that, how

2942
02:11:17,100 --> 02:11:19,401
would that be done?

2943
02:11:24,100 --> 02:11:25,100
>>Thank you, councilmember. This

2944
02:11:25,100 --> 02:11:28,100
ordinance before the Council simply

2945
02:11:31,100 --> 02:11:32,100
Authorizes the use of eminent domain.

2946
02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:33,100
If we are unsuccessful in negotiating

2947
02:11:33,100 --> 02:11:36,100
a purchase of the property. As to

2948
02:11:36,100 --> 02:11:38,100
the issues regarding parking,

2949
02:11:38,100 --> 02:11:41,100
circulation, Unless it doesn't relate

2950
02:11:56,100 --> 02:11:57,100
to this particular property so I am

2951
02:11:57,100 --> 02:11:58,100
not looking at that issue in this

2952
02:11:58,100 --> 02:11:59,100
ordinance before the Council tonight,

2953
02:11:59,100 --> 02:12:00,100
the Council can certainly direct

2954
02:12:00,100 --> 02:12:01,100
staff to as part of this we were in

2955
02:12:01,100 --> 02:12:02,100
addition to this to take a look at

2956
02:12:02,100 --> 02:12:05,601
those issues. I would say that

2957
02:12:07,100 --> 02:12:08,100
traffic engineer would be involved as

2958
02:12:08,100 --> 02:12:09,100
far as parking issues and other

2959
02:12:09,100 --> 02:12:10,100
issues like that, but there is

2960
02:12:10,100 --> 02:12:11,100
right-of-way that can be utilized for

2961
02:12:11,100 --> 02:12:15,100
parkingAnd so I don't see it as part

2962
02:12:15,100 --> 02:12:16,100
of this particular ordinance in

2963
02:12:16,100 --> 02:12:18,401
relation to authorizing condemnation,

2964
02:12:19,100 --> 02:12:20,100
but I do understand that there are

2965
02:12:20,100 --> 02:12:22,100
some concerns you might want staff to

2966
02:12:22,100 --> 02:12:24,401
look into some issues.

2967
02:12:28,100 --> 02:12:29,100
>>Thank you, that's really helpful.

2968
02:12:29,100 --> 02:12:33,201
The other comment I heard that I

2969
02:12:36,100 --> 02:12:37,100
would be curious on your thoughts on

2970
02:12:37,100 --> 02:12:38,100
is they said that some the commenters

2971
02:12:38,100 --> 02:12:42,100
alluded to the city did not follow

2972
02:12:42,100 --> 02:12:43,100
Regular process for this. Could you

2973
02:12:43,100 --> 02:12:45,401
comment about that, please?

2974
02:12:47,100 --> 02:12:48,100
>>The city has followed all the

2975
02:12:48,100 --> 02:12:51,100
requirements with respect to moving

2976
02:12:54,100 --> 02:12:55,100
forward with an ordinance with

2977
02:12:55,100 --> 02:12:58,100
respect to exercising eminent domain.

2978
02:13:00,100 --> 02:13:01,100
We have the process we utilize the

2979
02:13:01,100 --> 02:13:03,100
process a lot for roads and for other

2980
02:13:03,100 --> 02:13:05,100
Stormwater infrastructure access

2981
02:13:05,100 --> 02:13:08,100
easements, full acquisitions for park

2982
02:13:11,100 --> 02:13:12,100
property and so we follow a process

2983
02:13:12,100 --> 02:13:15,601
very closelyThat set out by state

2984
02:13:27,100 --> 02:13:28,100
law. What I heard is some people

2985
02:13:28,100 --> 02:13:29,100
wanting there to be more public

2986
02:13:29,100 --> 02:13:30,100
process and more of a robust

2987
02:13:30,100 --> 02:13:31,100
discussion within the neighborhood.

2988
02:13:31,100 --> 02:13:32,100
But that is not a legal requirement,

2989
02:13:32,100 --> 02:13:33,100
we have met all of the legal

2990
02:13:33,100 --> 02:13:35,401
requirementsFor adoption of this

2991
02:13:36,100 --> 02:13:37,100
ordinance should the Council choose

2992
02:13:37,100 --> 02:13:38,100
to go in that direction when it comes

2993
02:13:38,100 --> 02:13:41,100
up for the councils action.

2994
02:13:41,100 --> 02:13:44,100
>>Thank you. Thank you, Mayor.

2995
02:13:44,100 --> 02:13:45,100
>>Thank you. Other questions or

2996
02:13:45,100 --> 02:13:49,201
comments from Council?I would like to

2997
02:13:55,100 --> 02:13:56,100
speak for little longer than I

2998
02:13:56,100 --> 02:13:57,100
usually do on this because this is

2999
02:13:57,100 --> 02:13:58,100
sort of in my neighborhood is an area

3000
02:13:58,100 --> 02:14:02,801
that has importance to me. So I moved

3001
02:14:33,100 --> 02:14:34,100
To Richmond Beach about 4 years ago 1

3002
02:14:34,100 --> 02:14:35,100
of the 1st things I desire walked out

3003
02:14:35,100 --> 02:14:36,100
with my twins, 5 or 6 at the time,

3004
02:14:36,100 --> 02:14:37,100
cross the public funded bridge and

3005
02:14:37,100 --> 02:14:38,100
walked along turn left walk south

3006
02:14:38,100 --> 02:14:39,100
along Appletree Lane and said Hi took

3007
02:14:39,100 --> 02:14:40,100
couple of other school friends who

3008
02:14:40,100 --> 02:14:41,100
happen to live there and then there

3009
02:14:41,100 --> 02:14:42,100
was an older gentleman. I sadly

3010
02:14:42,100 --> 02:14:43,100
don't remember his name, I am not

3011
02:14:43,100 --> 02:14:44,100
sure if he is past owner simply

3012
02:14:44,100 --> 02:14:45,100
moved, but he is no longer there. I

3013
02:14:45,100 --> 02:14:46,100
knew that the beach parcel was his so

3014
02:14:46,100 --> 02:14:47,100
I asked him if it's okay if we walk

3015
02:14:47,100 --> 02:14:48,100
there. he said it was fine. So that

3016
02:14:48,100 --> 02:14:49,100
became 1 of our family tradition says

3017
02:14:49,100 --> 02:14:50,100
we have heard from so many public

3018
02:14:50,100 --> 02:14:51,100
commenters that it's been a tradition

3019
02:14:51,100 --> 02:14:55,801
over the years. So you walk down for

3020
02:15:37,100 --> 02:15:38,100
the publicly funded bridge, he walked

3021
02:15:38,100 --> 02:15:39,100
down the street, will talk about the

3022
02:15:39,100 --> 02:15:40,100
ownership of the street but you walk

3023
02:15:40,100 --> 02:15:41,100
in the street get on the beach and

3024
02:15:41,100 --> 02:15:42,100
then there is public property south

3025
02:15:42,100 --> 02:15:43,100
of the high water mark in their legal

3026
02:15:43,100 --> 02:15:44,100
distinctions and all that but

3027
02:15:44,100 --> 02:15:45,100
basically what Puget Sound belongs to

3028
02:15:45,100 --> 02:15:46,100
all of us, nobody owns it and if it's

3029
02:15:46,100 --> 02:15:47,100
Puget Sound is covered partly in not

3030
02:15:47,100 --> 02:15:48,100
covered parking we you can walk on it

3031
02:15:48,100 --> 02:15:49,100
what is not covered. That particular

3032
02:15:49,100 --> 02:15:50,100
parcel, the beach parcel owned now by

3033
02:15:50,100 --> 02:15:51,100
Doctor Vitelli on oh is accessible by

3034
02:15:51,100 --> 02:15:52,100
2 roads for 20 go down by 27th and

3035
02:15:52,100 --> 02:15:53,100
get on, the others you come north

3036
02:15:53,100 --> 02:15:54,100
from saltwater Park which is a public

3037
02:15:54,100 --> 02:15:55,100
park that you're perfectly entitled

3038
02:15:55,100 --> 02:15:56,100
walk on regardless of who you are.

3039
02:15:56,100 --> 02:15:57,100
And that is accessible at all tied

3040
02:15:57,100 --> 02:15:58,100
levels except that King tied. So

3041
02:15:58,100 --> 02:15:59,100
there these giant high tides are the

3042
02:15:59,100 --> 02:16:00,100
entirety that beach parcel is

3043
02:16:00,100 --> 02:16:01,100
covered, it's kind of impressive,

3044
02:16:01,100 --> 02:16:02,100
water all over it, splashing up onto

3045
02:16:02,100 --> 02:16:03,100
the tracks. But ordinary high tide,

3046
02:16:03,100 --> 02:16:04,100
you've got beach there and you've got

3047
02:16:04,100 --> 02:16:05,100
rocks that you can scramble along.

3048
02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:06,100
And I did that walk with my 70

3049
02:16:06,100 --> 02:16:09,100
something-year-old dad onceAnd I did

3050
02:16:17,100 --> 02:16:18,100
know it was this high tide but we

3051
02:16:18,100 --> 02:16:19,100
managed to get there. you can get

3052
02:16:19,100 --> 02:16:20,100
there either through willing down

3053
02:16:20,100 --> 02:16:21,100
Appletree Lane or from saltwater Park

3054
02:16:21,100 --> 02:16:22,100
under all but the most extreme

3055
02:16:22,100 --> 02:16:23,100
circumstances. That beach is as we

3056
02:16:23,100 --> 02:16:24,100
have heard from so many public

3057
02:16:24,100 --> 02:16:25,100
comments used by lots of people.

3058
02:16:25,100 --> 02:16:26,100
It's community tradition, a tradition

3059
02:16:26,100 --> 02:16:27,100
for folks outside of the community.

3060
02:16:27,100 --> 02:16:28,100
So something has changed. What's

3061
02:16:28,100 --> 02:16:29,100
that, that particular gentleman a

3062
02:16:29,100 --> 02:16:30,100
longer lives there. Somebody wants

3063
02:16:30,100 --> 02:16:31,100
to lock it off. For me this is a

3064
02:16:31,100 --> 02:16:32,100
chance to implement what we have

3065
02:16:32,100 --> 02:16:33,100
always talked about with public sure

3066
02:16:33,100 --> 02:16:34,100
online to make this truly part of a

3067
02:16:34,100 --> 02:16:35,100
domain. We do that by providing fair

3068
02:16:35,100 --> 02:16:36,100
value. And don't take anything from

3069
02:16:36,100 --> 02:16:40,801
anybody, we pay full price for it.I

3070
02:16:59,100 --> 02:17:00,100
am pleased that Doctor Italiano has

3071
02:17:00,100 --> 02:17:01,100
chosen to allow tribal members on

3072
02:17:01,100 --> 02:17:02,100
there. if he had chosen to allow all

3073
02:17:02,100 --> 02:17:03,100
of us we would be in a different

3074
02:17:03,100 --> 02:17:04,100
position but that's not where we are.

3075
02:17:04,100 --> 02:17:05,100
I don't want to see this community

3076
02:17:05,100 --> 02:17:06,100
tradition taken away. I want to

3077
02:17:06,100 --> 02:17:07,100
address a couple of comments that

3078
02:17:07,100 --> 02:17:08,100
were addressed are made during public

3079
02:17:08,100 --> 02:17:09,100
comment on the details of it.

3080
02:17:09,100 --> 02:17:10,100
There's a police fire concern, it's a

3081
02:17:10,100 --> 02:17:11,100
narrow 1 Lane Rd., there's no

3082
02:17:11,100 --> 02:17:12,100
turnaround, no question. There's a

3083
02:17:12,100 --> 02:17:13,100
bunch of houses down there and if 1

3084
02:17:13,100 --> 02:17:14,100
of them catches fire it's going to be

3085
02:17:14,100 --> 02:17:15,100
a big problem for fire apparatus to

3086
02:17:15,100 --> 02:17:16,100
get down there. Likewise if somebody

3087
02:17:16,100 --> 02:17:17,100
gets in trouble on the beach is going

3088
02:17:17,100 --> 02:17:18,100
to be a problem for fire department

3089
02:17:18,100 --> 02:17:19,100
or EMS to get down there. This has

3090
02:17:19,100 --> 02:17:20,100
been used as a public beach for not

3091
02:17:20,100 --> 02:17:21,100
time immemorial but certainly for a

3092
02:17:21,100 --> 02:17:22,100
long timeCertainly my lifetime in the

3093
02:17:22,100 --> 02:17:23,100
lifetime of many of others living in

3094
02:17:23,100 --> 02:17:24,100
Richmond Beach. I askedMiss Terry to

3095
02:17:24,100 --> 02:17:25,100
pull the police and fire reports. As

3096
02:17:25,100 --> 02:17:26,100
part of the comments. Nobody has

3097
02:17:26,100 --> 02:17:27,100
call for help there. we are not

3098
02:17:27,100 --> 02:17:28,100
proposing expansion, we're proposing

3099
02:17:28,100 --> 02:17:31,100
a continuation. Are there challenges

3100
02:18:07,100 --> 02:18:08,100
to getting down there? If someone has

3101
02:18:08,100 --> 02:18:09,100
a medical emergencies is 1 of those

3102
02:18:09,100 --> 02:18:10,100
houses? Sure, same challenges is on

3103
02:18:10,100 --> 02:18:11,100
the beach, same as in a variety of

3104
02:18:11,100 --> 02:18:12,100
places at shoreline. Parking.

3105
02:18:12,100 --> 02:18:13,100
That's a big concern, that's not a

3106
02:18:13,100 --> 02:18:14,100
new thing. In all the years that

3107
02:18:14,100 --> 02:18:15,100
I've gone down there I will tell you

3108
02:18:15,100 --> 02:18:16,100
during the pandemic when neighbors

3109
02:18:16,100 --> 02:18:17,100
down there started raising concerns I

3110
02:18:17,100 --> 02:18:18,100
stopped going. I didn't want to

3111
02:18:18,100 --> 02:18:19,100
intrude on people space even though I

3112
02:18:19,100 --> 02:18:20,100
think I was perfectly entitled to I

3113
02:18:20,100 --> 02:18:21,100
chose not to go down. I been plenty

3114
02:18:21,100 --> 02:18:22,100
of times, I've never seen a car go

3115
02:18:22,100 --> 02:18:23,100
down and need to turn around. It's

3116
02:18:23,100 --> 02:18:24,100
not a street you want to drive down.

3117
02:18:24,100 --> 02:18:25,100
Instead there's a ton of parking upon

3118
02:18:25,100 --> 02:18:26,100
Richmond Beach Road, Katona parking

3119
02:18:26,100 --> 02:18:27,100
right up there, perfectly safe, on

3120
02:18:27,100 --> 02:18:28,100
the dirt shoulder a week and do

3121
02:18:28,100 --> 02:18:29,100
better as signage, we can do better

3122
02:18:29,100 --> 02:18:30,100
at enforcement if there becomes a

3123
02:18:30,100 --> 02:18:31,100
problem. There's not a problem now I

3124
02:18:31,100 --> 02:18:32,100
don't think there's going to be one.

3125
02:18:32,100 --> 02:18:33,100
Other concerns such as the seawall,

3126
02:18:33,100 --> 02:18:34,100
the surveys, those are things that

3127
02:18:34,100 --> 02:18:35,100
were sorted out during the course of

3128
02:18:35,100 --> 02:18:36,100
this process. But we are authorizing

3129
02:18:36,100 --> 02:18:37,100
not the final proposing but the

3130
02:18:37,100 --> 02:18:38,100
ability of staff to proceed with

3131
02:18:38,100 --> 02:18:39,100
acquiring this property through

3132
02:18:39,100 --> 02:18:42,100
eminent domain if necessary. A

3133
02:20:07,100 --> 02:20:08,100
couple of the public comment struck

3134
02:20:08,100 --> 02:20:09,100
me tonight and I think we are pretty

3135
02:20:09,100 --> 02:20:10,100
telling, there is a gentleman who is

3136
02:20:10,100 --> 02:20:11,100
concerned about folks walking their

3137
02:20:11,100 --> 02:20:12,100
dogs along that street. My window

3138
02:20:12,100 --> 02:20:13,100
happens look out in the street so I

3139
02:20:13,100 --> 02:20:14,100
started looking out and accounted no

3140
02:20:14,100 --> 02:20:15,100
less than 17 people crossing in front

3141
02:20:15,100 --> 02:20:16,100
of my house 5 of which had dogs.

3142
02:20:16,100 --> 02:20:17,100
That's part of living in a city. If

3143
02:20:17,100 --> 02:20:18,100
the concern is they want to live in a

3144
02:20:18,100 --> 02:20:19,100
private neighborhood they need to

3145
02:20:19,100 --> 02:20:20,100
move somewhere else. This is

3146
02:20:20,100 --> 02:20:21,100
probably funded bridge onto a road

3147
02:20:21,100 --> 02:20:22,100
which is owned for the most part by

3148
02:20:22,100 --> 02:20:23,100
BNSF. There are concerns about

3149
02:20:23,100 --> 02:20:24,100
whether BNSF owns down the middle of

3150
02:20:24,100 --> 02:20:25,100
the street or just on the left side

3151
02:20:25,100 --> 02:20:26,100
of the street on the east side of the

3152
02:20:26,100 --> 02:20:27,100
street but if you walk down there

3153
02:20:27,100 --> 02:20:28,100
what you will see is the NSF has put

3154
02:20:28,100 --> 02:20:29,100
their no trespassing signs on the

3155
02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:30,100
extreme edge of that road. So in

3156
02:20:30,100 --> 02:20:31,100
other words BNSF is not enforcing

3157
02:20:31,100 --> 02:20:32,100
their ability to foreclose the public

3158
02:20:32,100 --> 02:20:33,100
from walking down that paved road.

3159
02:20:33,100 --> 02:20:34,100
Whether it's on only the left side or

3160
02:20:34,100 --> 02:20:35,100
whether you can also walk on the

3161
02:20:35,100 --> 02:20:36,100
right side, I don't know, that will

3162
02:20:36,100 --> 02:20:37,100
get sorted in the survey. The NSF as

3163
02:20:37,100 --> 02:20:38,100
chosen to allow full to walk down

3164
02:20:38,100 --> 02:20:39,100
there. They could put up no

3165
02:20:39,100 --> 02:20:40,100
trespassing except for residents

3166
02:20:40,100 --> 02:20:41,100
signs, they have chosen not to do

3167
02:20:41,100 --> 02:20:42,100
that we are working to clean up even

3168
02:20:42,100 --> 02:20:43,100
that deal detail by getting an

3169
02:20:43,100 --> 02:20:44,100
easement. Because BNSF has chosen

3170
02:20:44,100 --> 02:20:45,100
only to enforce the trackside the

3171
02:20:45,100 --> 02:20:46,100
public is entitled to walk down that

3172
02:20:46,100 --> 02:20:47,100
road across that publicly funded

3173
02:20:47,100 --> 02:20:48,100
bridge to get to the stretch of the

3174
02:20:48,100 --> 02:20:49,100
beach they have used response some

3175
02:20:49,100 --> 02:20:50,100
significant time. Because of all

3176
02:20:50,100 --> 02:20:51,100
these reasons I'm sympathetic to the

3177
02:20:51,100 --> 02:20:52,100
desire to keep something to you for

3178
02:20:52,100 --> 02:20:53,100
yourself, the desire not to have

3179
02:20:53,100 --> 02:20:54,100
folks intruding on your space with

3180
02:20:54,100 --> 02:20:55,100
the speech, this is part of something

3181
02:20:55,100 --> 02:20:56,100
I think we all should on and I would

3182
02:20:56,100 --> 02:20:57,100
encourage us to carry through this

3183
02:20:57,100 --> 02:20:58,100
and use eminent domain if necessary

3184
02:20:58,100 --> 02:20:59,100
to acquire. Based on my comments is

3185
02:20:59,100 --> 02:21:00,100
there anything from staff or Council

3186
02:21:00,100 --> 02:21:01,100
about that?Or in general? All right,

3187
02:21:01,100 --> 02:21:02,100
seeing nothing, Ms. King, when does

3188
02:21:02,100 --> 02:21:03,100
this come back before you?

3189
02:21:03,100 --> 02:21:04,100
>>I think it's scheduled for your 1st

3190
02:21:04,100 --> 02:21:05,100
council meeting in June which isOn

3191
02:21:05,100 --> 02:21:06,100
June 8. Is that correct?

3192
02:21:06,100 --> 02:21:07,100
>>Looks like 6, From councilmember

3193
02:21:07,100 --> 02:21:08,100
Moore.

3194
02:21:08,100 --> 02:21:09,100
>>June 6, there is. And was on my

3195
02:21:09,100 --> 02:21:10,100
slide but I don't have my slide up.

3196
02:21:10,100 --> 02:21:11,100
>>No worries.June 6 we will come

3197
02:21:11,100 --> 02:21:12,100
back. It definitely needs to be an

3198
02:21:12,100 --> 02:21:13,100
action item once I hear something

3199
02:21:13,100 --> 02:21:14,100
from Council about consent. It has

3200
02:21:14,100 --> 02:21:15,100
to be an action item. Anything else

3201
02:21:15,100 --> 02:21:16,100
from counselor staff on this item?And

3202
02:21:16,100 --> 02:21:17,100
that is our last agenda items I

3203
02:21:17,100 --> 02:21:18,100
believe that concludes this

3204
02:21:18,100 --> 02:21:19,100
agenda this meeting. Thank you, and

3205
02:21:19,100 --> 02:21:20,100
we are adjourned.

3206
02:21:20,100 --> 02:21:22,100
>>Thank you.