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Ready? Good evening. We'd like to get this meeting started. We're going to call our meeting to order. Mr.

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Calderon, would you like to lead us in the pledge of allegiance?

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roll call, please. Council member Ayalah. Council member Rhodes. Council member Lister. Mayor Pro Tim Judge. Mayor Kavanaugh.

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Here. Are there any items for agenda review? Madam Mayor, there are two. First, I would like to recommend that we move item 3C1, the Youth Council presentation ahead of item 3B1, the presentation by the Army Corps of Engineers and WM, right in the fire debris.

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So, the Youth Council member can go home. And I would also let you know that there is a supplemental on item 9A.

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Thank you. And I would like to also, if this is the appropriate time, make a change to the agenda, I would move that item 9, which is new business, which is discussing the waste management grant allowance, we moved to proceed item 7 so that those who are here for that are not here all night.

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So, move, move item 9, prior to item 7. Yes, please.

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Thank you. And I only had one other thing to add. Madam Mayor's that there was nothing to report at a close session.

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Sorry, thank you, Mr. Attorney.

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I move that all resolutions and ordinances presented tonight be read entitled only and all further reading be waived. Second.

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Call for the vote.

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The motion passes unanimously. Thank you. If any member of the city council may have a conflict of interest, or any reason why that member must have seen from consideration, if any matter on the agenda, he or she should so declare at this time.

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Seeing that, we can move on. Madam Mayor and members of the city council, the first item on the agenda is item 1D1 presentation of a proclamation declaring the week of May 18 through May 24, 25 as public works week.

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And public works director Ron Fuchawaki is here to present this item. And accepting a proclamation is assistant public works director L. Sexton and deputy public works director of transit Ben Gonzalez.

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Good evening, Mayor Cavanol and council members. I want to thank the audience all for showing up for public works week.

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It is my pleasure tonight to join the city council in proclaiming the week of May 18 through May 24 as public works week.

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Not only is it a time to recognize the efforts of the department that provides great customer service to the citizens of Cemi Valley, but it is an opportunity to recognize the men and women that operate and maintain these facilities and provide services to the community.

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These facilities and services include engineering, streets and highways, landscaping, public buildings, water sewer, environmental monitoring and transit.

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I'm especially proud of our Cemi Valley public works employees that work day and sometimes nights to ensure the community has a well operated and maintained public infrastructure.

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Now I would like to join the city council and proclaiming the week of May 18 through June May 24 as public works week in the city of Cemi city of Cemi Valley.

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Well, that goes back a long ways.

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I'm just going to say great, but I'm not sure you're the right city tonight, Mr. Joaquie.

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I think you all appreciate how much our public works does for us, what is it you always say they keep Cemi Valley running or moving keeps Cemi Valley moving in all in all ways.

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So we just really can't thank all of you guys enough, so I want to take a couple of words.

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I really appreciate the opportunity to help lead the department that is pretty much the backbone of the city in terms of running utilities and keeping the infrastructure running.

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It's an honor to be my public or employee for the Cemi Valley.

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I just want to thank you and the council for this recognition, much appreciated.

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We thank you guys a lot because if you weren't doing your job then we'd all be in trouble.

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So I really thank you a lot, do you want to fix your Kristen?

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Thank you gentlemen.

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Thank you gentlemen.

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Madam Mayor and members of the city council next to me agenda is item one d two presentation of certificates of appreciation to outgoing community projects grant review committee members and senior management analyst Cynthia McCullough is here to present this item.

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Could even Mayor Kavna and members of the city council in 2011 the city council and waste management executed a memorandum of understanding which provides annual grant funding of $150,000.

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The city council awards funding to non-profit organizations for community projects and programs that benefit the Cemi Valley community.

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In 2017 the city council created the CPG review committee consisting of seven representatives one from each of the four neighborhood councils the council on aging youth council and the community at large.

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The review committee provides public input and a funding recommendation for city council consideration.

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Each year the request have well exceeded the amount available and all the deserving programs and projects are not able to be funded.

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This year the review committee first met in April to develop its review process for evaluating the 23 eligible funding requests that totaled over $590,000.

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In May the review committee met again to receive public comments presentations from the applying organizations and discuss the funding requests.

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After discussion the review committee concluded it's service by providing its funding recommendation for city council consideration that will be presented later this evening.

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To show our appreciation the review committee members who are present this evening are asked to come forward to be recognized for their contribution of time leadership and service to the community.

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Representing neighborhood council number one, Laura heard representing neighborhood council number two, Theresa Ramirez, representing neighborhood council number three, review, put hoda.

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Representing neighborhood council number four, Bobby Calderon, representing the council on aging, Al Brown, representing the youth council, a monster.

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And representing the community at large Gerald plus there is please join me and congratulating them on a job well done.

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And I'm smart enough to not give out the microphone tonight.

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We just want to this on behalf of the whole city council we want to thank you for the hard work you do dispensing this money.

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There's always more demand than there is for it and it's a very difficult decision that you guys make and we really really appreciate all the time effort and work you put into it as I'm sure all of the recipients do to so thank you very very much.

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Madam Mayor and members of the city council next in the agenda is item two public statements on appointment special presentations and information reports.

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We have no speakers for this item this is my apologies.

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We do have one speaker Melissa Bumsted.

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We have no speakers for this item this evening.

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Madam Mayor members of the city council next on the agenda is item three a one selection of up to two city council members to participate in the Ventura County film commission roundtable and committee services coordinator Ryan Fowler is here to present this item.

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Good evening Mayor Kevin on members of the city council.

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The Ventura County film commission periodically host film discussions with the city of semi valley and other stakeholders.

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Past discussion topics have included film activity the permitting process and film promotion marketing and partnerships promote semi valley film locations.

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The city has been invited to participate in a film roundtable discussion on Thursday May 29th 2025 from 10 a.m. to 12 p.m. at 99.1 the ranch.

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Located inside the semi valley town center.

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The Ventura County film commission in partnership with the semi valley chamber of commerce is hosting the roundtable discussion with local studio owners entertainment industry members and other stakeholders.

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The chambers initial invitation included the mayor and all council members.

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However, to avoid a potential city council quorum at the roundtable staff is recommending the city council designate up to two representatives to participate in the discussion.

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This concludes the report and staff is available to answer any questions at this time.

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Any questions.

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I am planning on attending so I would.

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To be welcome to be one of the two.

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And I'm out of town.

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I will eliminate you.

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I was I was going to I'm out of town as well. I was going to suggest if our mayor pretend wanted to attend might be appropriate for the two of you.

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He can't make it either it looks like it's council member.

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I don't know.

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I'm I'm wanting to go.

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So yes, I will go with the mayor and if some.

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Let's go ahead and do that.

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I just to be clear. I am wanting to go.

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Just so everyone's clear, right.

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All right, do I have a motion.

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I would move that the mayor.

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Cavanah and council member.

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You selected to attend the film.

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Roundtable.

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Thank you.

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The motion passes unanimously.

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Thank you.

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Madam mayor and members of the city council next to the agenda is item three.

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See one informational presentation.

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Are you council member James the Queen.

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Thank you.

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Welcome.

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Thank you.

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So good evening.

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Mayor Gavana and members of the city council.

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My name is James the quang.

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And I'm a seventh grader at hillside middle school.

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I'm honored to represent the see me value council and to provide this information report on the work that we've accomplished throughout the month of May.

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Before I do that, I would just like to take this opportunity to thank you for your continued support.

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Which allows us to create these meaningful events and opportunities for the youth in our community.

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Recently on May 19th, we hosted one of our most successful events for this year.

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Our annual see me valley youth council teen wellness night outside of the see me valley public library.

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This event provides students an opportunity to relax and recharge after AP testing with a focus on mental health and emotional.

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The event featured over 40 impactful and diverse booths, including representatives from Alexandria House.

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Bright youth.

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For the need.

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We came here and we phoma society.

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Rancho see me recreation and park district see me valley police explorers see me valley unified school district.

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To back go use and prevent prevention Friday night live.

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Sound bath and meditation stand for university center for youth mental health and well-being.

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Teen talk various school clubs.

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Ventura County behavioral health.

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Ventura County public health.

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And the YMCA.

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The youth council provided a rock painting booth and collected pet toys and blankets to donate to Ventura County Animal Services.

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We also continued our successful umplugs day initiative.

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Our students were encouraged to disconnect from their phones and engage in real life activities and conversations.

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Students who tracked the lowest screen time had a chance to win prices. This year we also introduced a new step challenge called step into wellness.

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We're qualified students could enter a raffle and potentially win a pair of headphones.

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The support from the community for the event was absolutely incredible.

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With this year having over 300 attendees.

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Overall, this event was a major success in a variety of teams that their well-being matters just as much as their achievements.

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Especially nowadays, of some teams being overwhelmed by stress and constant digital connection.

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We hope that this event was able to make a lasting impact on their well-being.

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Looking ahead, the youth council will be working on the team crisis resource numbers that will be printed on the backs of all senior valley unified school district, middle and high school student ID cards.

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These council will be checking to make sure the crisis hotline numbers are still accurate.

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And if there are any organizations that should be included and or removed from the cards.

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This work will ultimately serve as a valuable resource for all of those students and youth who need them the most in the upcoming school year.

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The youth council will also be hosting our annual escape room on June 19th and June 20th at the Barewood team center.

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Our theme for the event is Cosmic Countdown where the participants will be trying to escape a spacecraft that is slowly losing oxygen.

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The skate room is $10 per person and it can be purchased on the Rancho Seamy Recreation and Park District website.

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To stay up to date with all of our events and initiatives, we encourage the community to follow the youth council on Instagram, Facebook and YouTube at

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Seamy Valley Youth Council as well as on TikTok at S.V.Y.C.2929.

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On behalf of the entire youth council, I want you to thank Marikavana and the City Council for your support.

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Your encouragement gives the youth and Seamy Valley a voice and the power to leave.

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Together we have accomplished great fits for the youth in our community and the youth council looks forward to what the future may bring.

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Thank you for allowing me to speak tonight and I'm happy to answer any questions that you all may have.

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Councilmember Reds.

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Thank you, Madam Mayor.

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I just want to say first off, if you're representative of the seventh graders in our town, we're in great shape.

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Thank you for the wellness expo.

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We share an exchange to the mayor and she took advantage of the sound bath and thought that that was an outstanding thing.

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But for all you do, there's a youth council.

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Thank you so much and thank you for a great presentation.

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Thank you so much.

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Councilmember Reds.

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Thank you for presenting.

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As you know, you saw me at the wellness night and what was great about the wellness night was that most of the tables were actually staffed by youth.

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And so you staffed one of the tables that we went up to my daughter and I and so you had middle schoolers and high schoolers who are actually leading the activities and talking about the different offerings that the city had.

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And I think that was one of the things that impressed me the most was you have these youth actually doing it and with over what 300 participants right we got there right when it started and there was already a group of people there.

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So just wanted to congratulate you and the rest of your group on a great event that you put on.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you I just want to commend you also what a great presentation you did so thank you have a good evening now.

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Thank you.

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Madam Mayor and members of the city council next on the agenda is item 3b1 presentation by the US Army Corps of Engineers and waste management regarding fire debris and the CME value landfill and here to present this item is Eric R. Swenson.

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Colonel US Army Corps of Engineers same Paul district and the Col. Stetson senior district manager waste management CME value landfill.

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Yes, please come up.

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And it can it raises up if you'd like it.

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There's a button.

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They're setting it up now.

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First thank you both for being here this evening.

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It's a big item of interest as you can tell so we're glad that you're both here and we'll give us this wonderful presentation.

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Can you hear me?

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My name's Nicole Stetson I'm the district manager for the CME value landfill.

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I've been with waste management for coming up on 21 years in June and I'm here just to give a brief overview of the fired re operations within the landfill.

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We put together this presentation.

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Colonel Swenson I have you on the first slide so if you'll handle that I will take over after.

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Take over here okay.

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So first of all I just want to thank.

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Madam mayor in the in the council and the community behind me and that's online for your patience we know that we have we're sending a lot of trucks through your community as we work.

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We're going to have a safe and quickly and efficiently to get the fire ash and debris and all the recycled materials that were left after the January 7th and 8th fires that impacted both the palicates and the eaten fire impacted areas get those that fire ash and debris from roughly 13,000 uncontrolled locations to a handful of control locations.

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Where it can either be stored away permanently in a landfill or can be safely recycled to re enter the supply chain as a new product such as crushed.

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Concrete which is used as sub base for renew construction or the recycled metal that we pull off.

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So our role here is that when the state when the fire happened the governor declared a state of emergency and he asked the state asked a FEMA for the core of engineers and the EPA to come in to remove the fire ash and debris.

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In previous fires that work was done by state agencies in 2017 was the last time that the core had been asked to come to work on behalf of the state for this for this task.

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So the EPA came in they did phase one which is what we call household hazardous materials household hazardous materials are things like propane tanks fertilizer paints lithium ion batteries.

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And any bulk asbestos that they find on the parcel those all get removed safely safely transported.

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We get consolidated on larger trucks and like loads and hauled to special facilities where they can either be recycled or be properly disposed of in a and a properly permitted location.

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And then after they get done the homeowner will sign a right of entry giving the core and our contractors the legal authority be on their.

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Damage parcel to for the purposes of removing the private property off of that that would be the structure itself in any of the anything else that burned could be titled property.

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Such as a car boat or trailer as well or hazardous tree.

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So we go on and do a series of tasks that identify all of those hazards.

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And then we send our contractor and this is in the slide there ECC environmental chemical core or company there are what we call our prime contractor.

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Right, and then they hire a series of subcontractors the majority of which are local businesses to the LA venture county local local counties.

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Many of the trucks you see on the road are are local to either this community or to to the LA.

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And so we bring them on after those household hazardous materials have been removed.

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Now after the household hazardous materials removed we also send a crew out to look at each foundation specifically looking and testing for a specialist.

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So we do a thing called a chip test on various parts of the foundation we send that off to a certified California lab.

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That works under a certified California asbestos consultant we get the results back and if there's a specialist then we send a special team out.

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That is also permitted and works under a California California certified asbestos consultant to remove the asbestos hazard.

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That again does not go to see me valley landfill that goes to special designated landfills that take asbestos containing materials or otherwise known as ACM.

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Once the asbestos has gone the household hazardous materials are gone and any hazardous trees that may be a risk to our crew are removed then we go in and we remove the remainder of that material.

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And in California fire ash and debris from a wildfire that happens where the state declared emergency is categorized as municipal waste.

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So municipal waste and this is waste management expertise area but municipal waste is what is the business one of the main businesses that waste management is in.

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That is the things that you put at your curb each week in the trash company comes and picks it up and takes it to a landfill.

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And after a fire it has to go to a line landfill which is semi valley is is one of those.

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In the process of doing all of this removal work.

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We also have air monitors up we are using what we call the wet methods so everything is kept wet so there is no fugitive dust that escapes into the air because again.

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The core is here for really public health and safety of the communities and the state of California that are at risk of having this these uncontrolled locations where the fire ash and debris is at.

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So it gets put into the fire ash and debris that goes to the semi valley landfill is put into a lined dump truck that liner is then folded over the top a secondary tarp is put on top of that.

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And then a third tarp which is the auto tarp is put over top of that every truck in California has an auto tarp which covers which covers that fire ash and debris that's just extra layers to make sure that nothing can escape.

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Also remember that this material is transported in a moist state in a wet state so that nothing can no air can get in there and cause any of that dust to become fugitive dust.

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It then goes to the semi valley landfill or the Sunshine Canyon landfill or the Calibacis landfill and we have those are all landfills that are permitted through local enforcement agencies as well as under agency called Cal recycle which falls under.

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Cal Cal EPA and they have identified landfills across the state of California that in times of emergency such as what we had on January 7th are specifically designed to receive large amounts of.

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fire ash and debris. Now I will say that the local enforcement agencies and Cal recycle permit landfills and I'm not going to talk about that what waste management all all of that but to say that we have not exceeded.

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Our daily the daily limits to any of the landfills that we send material to so each landfill has a different daily limit they'll take they have different hours different days of the weeks that they work and so we work within.

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Whatever is established by the local enforcement agency and Cal recycle for that specific landfill and we partner with with the landfills because we want this to be as an efficient process that rapidly and safely gets fire ash and debris from all those uncontrolled locations into a controlled location safely along a route and permanently.

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And then once it gets to the the landfill the landfill does essentially the same things we do right they monitor for air and they have all the same regulations same California state laws that we follow in the transport of it they they have to do on the receiving and and then our trucks come back now.

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As I said there's three landfills that we are pre primary landfills that we're currently using for what we call municipal waste this fire ash and debris at Sunshine Canyon see me valley and Cal basis we also use other facilities for recycled metal.

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And clean concrete that's been tested and found to have no asbestos containing materials and the beauty of this operation is that we sort on each parcel we sort out those recyclables and that's what that does is it benefits waste management but ultimately it benefits the community because landfills.

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We want to minimize recyclables in landfills right that extends the life of the landfill as long as possible and allows items to have that second or third or fourth.

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Life here as a useful product in in our society and keeps our our waste stream to an absolute minimum and so that in a nutshell is how we we operate we inspect our trucks regularly to ensure that they are safe.

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We have truck masters at each of the landfills and along the routes so we monitor traffic backups in congestion and if it's congested will send trucks if possible will divert them to a different landfill.

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So that we don't have backups we don't want to impact the local community anymore than we have to in order to get this fire ash and debris again from an uncontrolled location to a controlled location.

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I think I miss I think I covered.

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Everything I wanted to cover and I'm certainly I'll pass it off the waste management and I'm certainly happy to answer any questions from the community.

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Thank you for your time.

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Thank you.

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Colonel Swanson.

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So as Colonel Swanson mentioned the senior valley landfills across three landfills.

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So we are authorized to accept only non-housardous materials that is.

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Again, the residential waste that you put curbside in our hauling trucks pick up on a daily basis.

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We're not authorized to accept hazardous waste and the waste management does have a dedicated waste approvals team that reviews and

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make sure that all materials coming into the landfill meet all of our permit criteria, including fire debris.

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Oh, sorry, next slide.

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Thank you.

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We're regulated by over 15 agencies from the federal level all the way down to the state and local levels.

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We have regular inspections, both unannounced and announced.

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The minimum inspection frequency is monthly, but we oftentimes have weekly inspections as well.

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The purpose of those inspections is just to make sure that the landfill is operating as safe as possible.

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And in accordance with all of our permit limitations.

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And this landfill in particular has a long-standing history of being a valuable resource within the region.

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And the disasters we've been able to partner and help clean up the Northridge earthquake, material, Thomas fires, hail fire,

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Wolsey fire of most recently, mountain fire, including eating and Pacific palaces, which is what we are currently accepting.

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And we'll continue to support these needs into the future.

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It took us significant amount of time and resources to prepare the site to accept the fire debris material.

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Not only have we hired 20 new employee use, we have a designated disposal area for dedicated scales, heavy equipment, and a separate haul route specific to the fire debris.

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To make sure that we're allowing for and we're operating as safely and efficiently as possible.

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And in addition to minute trim and a mice queuing of trucks and traffic congestion on the site.

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On the right, scenario photo of the site, the red line delineates the path of travel that the trucks take once they enter the facility.

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This is an overview of our entrance road and our primary landfill scale, so as once the trucks enter the facility approach the landfill scales.

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The landfill primary landfill scales, I'm sorry, they take a bypass lane on the right hand side and then they head up to four dedicated scales for the fire debris.

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And that location is to the west of our facility.

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The scale house includes four stations we have four attendants in the scale house at any one time they record the truck information and provide the tickets to the drivers.

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And the drivers that we have between four and eight scale attendants at any one point in time managing that scale operation before coming to the landfill.

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As Colonel Swenson said, the materials were wrapped in plastic it's tarped after the trucks come across the scales they get their ticket they head over to what's called the D tarping station where three man crews remove those tarps and the load is then ready for army core inspection before heading out to the landfill.

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The left on the left side of the photo you can see our four scales on the right side is the D tarping station.

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So the trucks then head along the fire debris route to the dedicated disposal area which we call cells two two and two three.

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Not the working face or disposal location we typically have between four and six traffic directors six to eight heavy equipment operators.

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Correcting trucks and pushing and packing the material into the landfill to make sure that we maintain safe distances between the trucks when they're dumping we deploy large truck tires based at least 15 feet apart.

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The driver then backs in dumps his load all of the material slides out along with the plastic which is disposed of and not reused.

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This control is a large effort with the fire debris material coming in we currently operate under a dust control plan approved by Ventura County planning and the air pollution control district.

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We've significantly increased our best management practices in order to make sure that we are mitigating.

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Future to dust some site so before coming to the landfill all loads are wedded so if you were to watch the trucks dump at the landfill there's no dust that comes off of the loads.

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And then the material is grayish brownish it consists mostly of soil ash some rubble concrete and small amounts of metal and tree branches.

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And also include that there's no odor coming from the fire debris no odor whatsoever.

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We in order to control dust on our roads we have a number of water trucks on site we deploy at least two on a daily basis one which is the photo you see in the middle has an 8000 gallon holding tank compared to our regular landfill water trucks that hold 4000 gallons so it can cover a large large area.

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Pretty quickly.

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We've also ramp up our sweeping efforts we now have between one and two full-time street sweepers operating seven days a week 16 hours a day.

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The sweeping route also includes view line drive and madera up to the freeway on ramp.

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After the trucks dump they head toward the exit to exit the facility they go under a manned camera station and make where the army corps make sure that all the loads are free and clear of debris and then the trucks exit the way they came they came into the site.

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So that's kind of the 10,000 foot level I'd also like to add that you know I'm very proud that my my team and I have played a vital role in this cleanup effort.

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It's a very very proud very proud to represent WM and to partner with the army corps to make sure that these folks are able to rebuild as quickly as possible.

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I'm sorry there's a couple of that so there are a couple other or two other questions that were raised by cancel that I didn't cover but I wanted to take the opportunity to discuss one was how much landfill life will.

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The fire debris take so currently the senior valley landfills around 40 years of capacity and we estimate that one one year of life would be used except in the higher debris.

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And then the other question was whether the landfill still accepting Chiquita Canyon landfill waste so following the closure of Chiquita Canyon landfill.

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We didn't know where that volume was going to go so in advance we read requested a waiver in order to accept Chiquita volume.

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And it turns out that that volume was distributed across facilities throughout the state most likely southern California and while I can't speak to other facilities that receive the landfill I can say that at this time we don't need a waiver to.

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A waiver in place to accept volume from Chiquita Canyon closing.

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And with that that's all I have. Thank you and appreciate your time.

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All right thank you very much. Do you have any questions from the dyes.

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Councilmember Rhodes.

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I must all be always be quickest on my button.

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First of all, Colonel and Nicole thank you very much for all the work that you've been doing.

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I know for many people that especially they're here listening watching they don't have the opportunity to interact with the two of you and your staff and.

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I'm happy to say that much of what I've learned from you all and your staff is exactly what was presented here, which is why my level of anxiety about things that are going into our landfill has been greatly reduced and.

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And one person trying to communicate that message is often difficult hearing it from you all.

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I won't just thank you for making that that time and effort for for being here.

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There were a couple of additional new losses or maybe some drilling down on some of the monitoring that's going on.

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I heard both say or maybe just the Colonel talk for both entities that there is air testing going on.

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I understand from the Army Corps standpoint that you want air testing done in the places where the debris is being removed and so that we're not kicking up dust into the air.

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We give us a better feel for how that testing is done how thorough it is and then Nicole from your side from the landfill and stand additional testing is being done is that.

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Just way in way out or upwards being dumped where where is that being tested and and should we expect that testing to go on into the future.

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So, so thank you for that question. So the AQMD is the air quality monitoring agency for this for this area, so they they do they do monitoring of air quality in in LA in LA county already.

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But and the Army Corps of Engineers is not a public health agency, but we are very concerned about.

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Our employees health and by and by worrying about our employees health we by extension or worried about everyone else's health in this operation right.

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So around each around our sites we have.

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We have individual air monitors that some of our employees wear when they're in the Ashfoot print, which is essentially the space with the structure burn to the ground we sort of broke that off that's considered the Ashfoot print.

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The perimeter air monitors set up around our the neighborhoods to monitor for any air quality issues and we also have sensitive site air monitors.

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So that might be near say a senior center that's been reoccupied we'll put an air monitor there or a school that's reoccupied we'll put an air monitor there.

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Normally downwind the prevailing winds to make sure that our methods for debris removal are effective.

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And and if we get hits that they're not effective then we change our technique add more water change the type of you know those we use on our sprayers so that we can keep the dust down.

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I'm happy to announce that we have maintained.

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Acceptable well well below the like the threshold for for air monitoring.

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Through operations and it's refreshing when you go out on a site and you don't see any any dust coming up because every site has usually one if not two water buffaloes.

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Which are just basically water tanks that are applying copious amounts of water to where the excavators are working to keep to keep that down and again then that.

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In turn we put it the material in the back of the truck in a wet state or a moist state which means that it's clumped together so when it gets to the landfill and it gets detarped.

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It makes it's a seamless transition onto waste management protocols for keeping dust down.

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Does that answer your question?

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It did on the air monitoring I'm going to come back with some other testing but.

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So on on that note water and dust control is how we mitigate.

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Airborne.

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Dust on site so we don't have separate air monitors but we we employ all of our best management practices outlined in the dust control plan to make sure that.

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Dust is minimized.

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And I'll say from a personal standpoint of going out and visiting watching the debris being deposited there.

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One person's empirical that I didn't see any that the management plan seems to be working.

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And I heard some tests where you're mentioning testing being done on debris is it by truck load is it by.

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One site before it gets clear to have what's the frequency of testing what are you testing for.

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So we test every.

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Uh, site for a specialist.

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That's like a home site or like the the what we have certified asbestos consultants.

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So in California it's they have this unique CAC other states have a similar requirement but in California there's a CAC a certified asbestos consultant.

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So we have dozens of certified asbestos consultants that are hired by our contractor to be out there to monitor.

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Any asbestos related activity that that occurs.

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So when we get to what we call our hazardous site assessment a couple things happen first is we mark hazardous trees right so identify any trees that present a hazard to our crews or to any of the neighboring properties or to the right of ways.

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We also send in this crew which.

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Uh, they go in and in their Tyvex suits and they because we onto these parcels and they do these chip tests on the foundation.

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They're also trained to identify what asbestos looks like they know what asbestos looks like and where asbestos is normally found in in home.

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So a lot of times you find it in chimney liners in HVAC system areas.

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Uh, it can be in the floor tile mass thick, it can be in floor tiles.

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So the people that do this are professionals is what they do every day.

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And so they're looking for it and they're also testing for it and the bite so if they see it they suspect it then they flag it and we remove it.

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If they.

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Uh, don't see it they still test for it. We send those tests to the lab it takes a couple days to a week to get back when we get the results back then we go in and we either they're either asbestos cleared or or then we test them.

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We then remediate them for asbestos, which is another couple day process depending on how much asbestos is in the material.

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All that asbestos is removed now.

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If we are out on a site and we find it's it's clean of asbestos and we start doing the rear removal and we uncover asbestos that may be under the ground.

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Uh, our crews are fairly well trained in knowing what asbestos is if we identify anything that might be asbestos we call that certified asbestos consultant back.

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We do a quick analysis. If we deem it to be asbestos we think it is and we treat it asbestos containing material and that is whole decide it's double bagged and it is sent to a separate.

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Uh, in separate waste stream and separate separate landfill that's designed to receive asbestos containing material.

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So that reminds me of two questions.

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I'm going to stay on hazardous debris.

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You give us some extra.

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An ample of things that are obvious that would be taken out of a home site and move to a higher and higher containment system.

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Can you give us some more concrete? Like if my Tesla were to burn up and that would be something that would be, I would assume, hazardous and need to go somewhere else.

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So when the EPA is primarily responsible for that mission, that's what we call phase one. Now, we do account, occasionally the core.

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Once the EPA is finished, occasionally we find household hazardous materials that were hidden, EPA couldn't find them.

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So we do have our own trained people. But the EPA is primarily responsible for that mission. So we're looking for things like lithium ion batteries.

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That is your electric or hybrid vehicle. That is your power wall if you had a power wall, like a Tesla power wall in your house that would contain lithium ion batteries.

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When when those get torched by a fire, right, they get become unstable.

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And so EPA has this revolutionary technique that they've designed, basically when I was in La Hina doing the La Hina fires.

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In Maui, they sort of came up with this technique where they go, they flip the vehicle over, they pull the batteries out, all the cells out.

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They brine them, right, that brining, deenergizes it, sucks the energy, remaining energy out of these unstable cells.

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And then they crush them, collect up all the material, and they ship it back to a certified facility.

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I think in this one it went to Utah and other ones it's gone to Arizona to places that are permitted to receive that type of material.

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So that's an example. But lithium ion batteries exist in lots of different devices that we use and we might not even realize.

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There are so our crews and EPA's team are trained to know where these type of what they look like when they're in a fire damage state.

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And it's the same crews at the EPA, you know, in California use for fire.

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So they're really, they're really, they're really good at their work.

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Fertilizers is another thing, aerosols, spray paints, regular paint, oil-based paint.

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Again, bulk asbestos. So if they see bulk asbestos, they're going to collect that up.

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Oftentimes around HVAC systems, I was a common building product in California when many of these many homes were built.

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In the state over the past 70 or 80 years.

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Those are kind of the big ones that we collect up.

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I mean, there's probably at paints, thinners, other petroleum-based products.

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So let's assume for a moment that in the real world we don't get it all.

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And some of it ends up in a truck.

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From the waste management standpoint, how concerned are you about some of these batteries and paint cans and things?

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Being in the landfill and somehow damaging our environment,

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seeping out of the landfill?

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I'm confident that the Army Corps of Engineers is following the process and is removing all the hazardous waste before comes to the site.

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I've watched a number of trucks dump and of all of the loads I've seen,

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or it doesn't appear to be anything visually hazardous.

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I think I'm trying to lead you the question of the lining system within your landfill is sort of designed to protect this against that stuff anyway.

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I guess you answered the question.

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Policies?

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I was going to let you do it.

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So we do have a 60 ml HDPE liner underneath the entire landfill that's protective intended to be protective of groundwater and from any liquids percolating through the waste stream.

368
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I think we also have to remember that these wildfires, urban wildfires in particular burn really, really hot.

369
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It's not uncommon to approach a vehicle that's been impacted by a wildfire or any vehicle fire.

370
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,000
And you see a hardened pool of aluminum underneath the vehicle, right?

371
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,000
Literally everything sort of melts out of it.

372
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Many household paints and other items when it could be burning at 2,000 to 2,800 degrees.

373
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:17,000
There's not an awful lot left. The steel remains because the steel burns at a higher, you know, melts at a higher temperature.

374
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But there's not an awful lot that remains.

375
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:27,000
We find a lot of propane tanks, but all the metal in the stem of the propane tank is a lighter metal softer metal.

376
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And so it melts out the propane tank cooks off.

377
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,000
It doesn't explode unless you're in Hollywood and we're north of Hollywood, I think.

378
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:39,000
It doesn't explode. And that just we treat that because it's just essentially a nurt metal.

379
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So we treat that as steel. That would be something that we would recycle.

380
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,000
And then last question before I'll pass it on to others.

381
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,000
You test for asbestos. You look for things.

382
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,000
The other EPA is looking for things.

383
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:58,000
Do you ever drill down into the soil and see if anything's seeped into the soil that you're then removing?

384
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,000
What's standard practice for you?

385
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,000
Great question. So what we've learned over the past decade or so is what we have a wildfire like this.

386
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:11,000
The structure essentially burns to the ground. That's the what previously was the the house.

387
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We take about a two to three foot ring around where that structure burned to the ground.

388
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And then we excavate or we remove all the fire ash in debris.

389
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We've tested the concrete for the foundation. If it's clean, we recycle that.

390
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And every remove six inches of soil and what we call that ash footprint that two to three feet around the the perimeter of where the fire.

391
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The structure settled to the ground. And by taking six inches of top soil.

392
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We remove. We remove all of that.

393
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Any material that would have been in that structure.

394
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And you know, fall into the ground.

395
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,000
We collected all in that in that's great.

396
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,000
Thanks. Thank you very much. I turned over for others.

397
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,000
Thank you. Next is Councilmember Lister.

398
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:02,000
Thank you for your report and information very, very informative.

399
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,000
Actually, I want to continue just in this in this question that I have a variety of others.

400
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:15,000
I know that we've been received a copy of the LA Times report that suggested that there were I think arsenic and lead that was found.

401
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:22,000
And we haven't discussed those chemicals per se, but are they are there other chemicals that are not being tested for that we should be concerned about.

402
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,000
To your experience.

403
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,000
Not to my not to my knowledge of my experience.

404
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,000
I mean, we.

405
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,000
Again, state of California and emergency.

406
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:38,000
Treats wild fire debris, fire ash debris as municipal waste.

407
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:46,000
And it goes. It has to go into a line to landfill, which is what we have here at CME Valley Sunshine Canyon and Calabassas and others.

408
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,000
I mean, I think the modern landfills built today are built with with liners.

409
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:59,000
I don't think there's been a landfill built without a liner and probably I don't know five decades or something or maybe longer.

410
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,000
Okay, thank you.

411
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,000
So speaking of those three primary landfills that are the recent rate receivers.

412
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:12,000
What percentage would you say is coming to CME Valley's landfills?

413
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:22,000
So CME Valley is the the largest of those landfills and has the greatest authorized daily.

414
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:27,000
Tunnage that can be brought to a landfill.

415
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,000
So and then we have a great partnership with waste management.

416
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:38,000
So we bring up to our max limit of of the landfills that are at our disposal to remove the debris.

417
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:48,000
I often get asked questions why don't I bring that to Arizona or Nevada or another state and it's essentially this was a fire here in this community.

418
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,000
It's not in this community in California.

419
00:52:50,000 --> 00:53:04,000
This is, you know, we have to we have to rapidly and safely get this to fire debris into a permanent and lined landfill to help remove the public health and safety threat.

420
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:15,000
So, so CME Valley is, it does take more than the other two, but that's because of the permanent limits that we're allowed to take to each one.

421
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:25,000
And and the fact that CME Valley is ideally suited to partner with us as they have in five other major disasters to receive.

422
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:31,000
Fire ash and debris and those just so I understand the permitted limits were established by.

423
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000
So state by the county.

424
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:39,000
So it goes to state and local enforcement agencies are the ones that permit landfills in the state of California.

425
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:46,000
I can't speak to know the how that all all those we just when we when we the core is called to a fire.

426
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:57,000
We work with the California state agencies that regulate landfills as well as the counties and local governments.

427
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:03,000
Where those landfills are located in this case the local enforcement agencies to understand what is the.

428
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:10,000
You know, what are the permanent limits, what are the times and then we build our operation around.

429
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:17,000
Our both recycling center and the landfills because if they if they're not open then then we can't execute the mission.

430
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,000
And then maybe you can help me understand.

431
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:28,000
Well, I understand thank you Nicole, I very much appreciate it being able to physically go through and and I'm glad to steer no longer.

432
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:38,000
On your on your boot to anyway you're welcome but thank you for letting me tour and see exactly how it works, but I recall from the conversation that.

433
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:46,000
Basically a homeless who experienced a fire they can choose to embrace your services or say we'll take care of it ourselves.

434
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:52,000
So what is the percentage that is are not using the Army Corps of Engineering and what does that look like for us.

435
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:57,000
So about I think as a yesterday about 1900.

436
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:04,000
We'll call parcels so lots owners have opted out of the federal debris removal program.

437
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:16,000
So if you opt you have two options as a fire impacted survivor right you either opt into the federal program or you opt out of the federal program there's no do nothing option.

438
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:26,000
And so for those who opted in if the process as I describe for those who opted out you follow the counties LA county established.

439
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:35,000
As sort of the umbrella organization over all of the unincorporated and incorporated communities within the fire impacted area.

440
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:49,000
LA county established the guidelines for the opt out procedure it looks very very similar to the procedures that the Army Corps of Engineers has to follow the differences that it's enforced by the county.

441
00:55:50,000 --> 00:56:05,000
Whereas those who opt in the you know my contractors are enforced by me and my team to ensure that they're in compliance with the federal contract and they have their own if you have an opt out contract they have to negotiate.

442
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:30,000
You know a place to take or find I mean to go say so onward find a place a landfill that that is willing to receive their fire ash and debris because again they have to like we have proven to waste management that that we follow a procedure and that our our debris is safe now we did work with the county and the state and the Corps of Engineers has done.

443
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:36,000
And any conjunction with EPA we have gone to every parcel and done the household hazardous material removal.

444
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:53,000
So if you opt out you still have the Corps of Engineers or the EPA do the household hazardous material removal and that includes for commercial properties as well that ensures the safety of our landfills to keep those hazardous materials out.

445
00:56:53,000 --> 00:57:03,000
So that maybe a contractor if they're trying to go fast you know they're unable to you know go fast because we've already taken all of that material out.

446
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:08,000
Got it. Okay, I very much appreciate understanding that.

447
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:21,000
I guess one more final question and this really probably isn't necessarily for either one of you, but I'm going to put out there and see what your thoughts obviously are are residents see a lot of negative externalities a lot of.

448
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:26,000
You know just just the truck traffic with potential damage to streets et cetera, et cetera.

449
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:37,000
Is there who bears the responsibility for maybe helping to mitigate that or to pay for repaving et cetera when this is all over with any thoughts from either one of you.

450
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,000
I suspect it's not just a big general question.

451
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,000
Yeah, it's not really not really one that I can answer.

452
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:54,000
I mean we use we hire contractors who use the roads like any other truck will the differences that you know we're using them at a high frequency.

453
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:00,000
I will say that I think as of today we're about we've we have cleared the.

454
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:10,000
I call the primary to breathe the visible signs of the fire from about 77% of the parcels that were impacted on January 7th and 8th.

455
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:16,000
So so I know I know that the community has has in this community.

456
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,000
I know that we have a lot of people who are in the city of Calibacis and Sanchan Canyon.

457
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:24,000
Those communities have as well as our recycling centers have more the truck traffic.

458
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:33,000
But I am I'm I'm pleased to say that we are ahead of schedule that we have been very safe in these operations and that we are getting these trucks.

459
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:42,000
Safely into these landfills and out and we are we're definitely on the decline in terms of the number of trucks that you'll see on the road and in a few.

460
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:52,000
I mean we're going to be we're going to be all but but done for for maybe with exception that maybe just a few hundred parcels left but.

461
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:57,000
So so that so this is this is the the worst of it it's going to get.

462
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,000
There's going to be fewer trucks from from here on out.

463
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,000
Thank you Colonel appreciate information.

464
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,000
Thank you for working both doing.

465
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,000
Thank you.

466
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,000
Mayor.

467
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Thank you.

468
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:13,000
I want to thank both of you for coming out doing this presentation for our community.

469
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:20,000
I'm hoping it puts a lot of our community members minds that he's having been up to land fill to myself and council member roads.

470
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:26,000
Probably it does in times with meetings zoom meetings meeting in person going on towards the landfill watching what you do.

471
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,000
You've delayed my my concerns I don't really part of this.

472
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So again I want to say thank you.

473
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,000
I want to say thank you for clarifying what about what about.

474
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:39,000
Because I know tomorrow I'd have calls that the army's use of water buffalo's the garbage around.

475
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,000
So I appreciate that I haven't heard that term in a long time.

476
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,000
Thank you again for coming.

477
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,000
Yes sir.

478
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,000
Council member.

479
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I just have a couple of questions.

480
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,000
The Colonel Swenson you had mentioned.

481
00:59:53,000 --> 01:00:00,000
Or maybe Nicole you mentioned that once the debris the trucks go into the.

482
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,000
That there is another Army Corps inspection. Do they hear that right?

483
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:12,000
So I have quality insurance inspectors and a quality insurance supervisor to onsite.

484
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,000
For every hour, there's a truck rolling into any of our landfills.

485
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:26,000
That is our contractual obligation as the federal agency that essentially is bringing the federal benefit to this community to the communities that are impacted.

486
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,000
Right? The federal dollar that's coming here to help do this for the state of California.

487
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:36,000
So I have a contractual obligation to ensure that my contractor is following the contract.

488
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,000
So every truck that moves into the semi valley is inspected.

489
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:54,000
I think twice by like on the way in and then on the way out to ensure that we are following that that that the contractor is following the federal contract to the letter of the contract and

490
01:00:54,000 --> 01:01:00,000
and in my mind to the spirit of the contract, right? So that we're doing this safely, efficiently.

491
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:08,000
We're conserving federal dollars and we're doing, we're doing this right, which is why every truck gets weighed in and gets weighed out.

492
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:13,000
Or whatever they get, they're weighed empty and then they get weighed in every time they come full.

493
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:23,000
So we understand exactly how much material that we are bringing in and we're paying, you know, not a penny more than we have to for the work that's being done here.

494
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:39,000
And I think that a lot of people were not aware that before the trucks are even loaded that the household hazardous material has already been removed off that site.

495
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,000
That's correct.

496
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:50,000
And I think that there's a misconception that how do we know things are not in the trucks that are hazardous coming into waste management?

497
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:58,000
And the answer is that before they're even put on the truck that material has already been removed is that what would you say.

498
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:11,000
That's correct. Yeah. I mean, I mean, our environmental protection agency, right, our nation's environmental protection agency looks out for the environmental protection of every community is the one that oversees this operations.

499
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:18,000
And that's not lost on me that of who the federal government uses to oversee that. So just like the core of engineers has quality insurance inspectors.

500
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:32,000
The environmental protection agency hires certified contractors and then directly oversees them to ensure that they are following their very high standard for protecting the environment.

501
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:45,000
And then Nicole just a quick shorting question for you. The rumble strips. How does that work with the desk control.

502
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:54,000
When the trucks cross the rumble strips, they bounce and so it forces just the duration forces the matter and you dirt that's on those tires to shake off.

503
01:02:54,000 --> 01:03:01,000
And we have to clean those rumble strips on a daily basis and scoop out the dirt that collects there so that they continue to be effective.

504
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:06,000
But it's the it's the jarring movement is the trucks cross the drops off the dirt.

505
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:19,000
Very good. And then Colonel Swenson just I think you answered this right before, but can you tell us again when you think the trucks will stop.

506
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:30,000
I mean, I can't so contractually we have until the one year anniversary of the fire, but we are going to be substantially complete with this debris by mid by mid summer.

507
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:41,000
You're going to see a decline as sharp decline in the number of trucks. We're trying to run this to what we call, you can do a steady decline where we start reducing our trucks each day.

508
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:59,000
Or you we run it to what we call a cliff and then we just let them all go and we're trying to run to a cliff and then let them all off because that that minimizes the amount of time that it takes for this debris removal mission to occur, which is which minimizes the amount of time that community members that survivors who are trying to rebuild.

509
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:05,000
That it takes for them to have a clean lot where they can, where they can rebuild their lives and livelihoods on.

510
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:12,000
So I suspect you'll you'll see its significant decrease in trucks starting here in mid summer.

511
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,000
If you don't start seeing it in three weeks, it'll it'll be mid summer for sure.

512
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,000
All right. Thank you very much.

513
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,000
All right, Ms. Council member Rose one more.

514
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:28,000
Right, and this is a landfill question and and unfortunately I'm going to preface the landfill question with.

515
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:49,000
We live in a community that has the San Francisco and a field map and the natural rightful suspicion of government and competency and clean up is always been in the back and is the back of our minds because that exists in our community.

516
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:57,000
I'm again, answering asking a question which I've been fully versed on the answer to, but I think it would be very helpful.

517
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:15,000
So in the in the future the debris has been removed where five years down the line and somehow heavy metals have seen through 200 feet of debris layer and it manages to breach the liner.

518
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:21,000
What testing is done, what organizations monitor for.

519
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:30,000
Breaches of that sort and then if something like that were discovered, what is mitigation.

520
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:37,000
Is that something that you would be mandated to do or something in the waste management does anyway on a regular basis.

521
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:44,000
So if there were a breach in the containment system, you would most likely see signs of that in the groundwater table.

522
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:54,000
So we have a number of groundwater monitoring wells, both upstream for background and downstream.

523
01:05:54,000 --> 01:06:01,000
In accordance with the way that the water table moves under the landfill, we're sampling on a quarterly and semi annual basis.

524
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:13,000
We work with the regional water quality control board to review the data we submit reports on a semi annual and annual basis, but you would detect it within the groundwater.

525
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:23,000
A friend who I asked to kind of consult me on this said that a bad actor is one that monitors and then does nothing.

526
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:28,000
A good actor is one that monitors and says, okay, we're going to come up with a mitigation plan right away.

527
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:41,000
I'm in all my experience with WM, you're the latter and that if something were detected that we know about it and that there would be a plan that the whole community could rally behind and get.

528
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,000
Get done.

529
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,000
Absolutely.

530
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,000
Thank you.

531
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,000
Thank you.

532
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,000
I just have one more question actually a confirmation.

533
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:56,000
A lot of people commented to me that they saw the tarps slapping you know on the track, so they were worried it was open ash inside there.

534
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,000
So can you reiterate how that counts back?

535
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,000
Yeah, yes.

536
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,000
Thank you madam mayor.

537
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:12,000
So the the tarps have this thick like 10 mil think about it, you know, contractors bag that type of thickness plastic liner that is.

538
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:17,000
I used to use the word burrito wrap, maybe that's not the right the best term, but.

539
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:25,000
We if we load the inside of that with this moist fire ash in debris, we fold that burrito wrap on or that wrapping on top.

540
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:32,000
Then there's a separate tarp on top of that which is secured to the truck bed.

541
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:41,000
Then there's the auto tarp which comes down the auto tarp is this kind of the it's what every truck has what regardless of what it's hauling that is oftentimes which you'll see.

542
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:46,000
Flapping is the auto tarp because it doesn't because it's automatically it's automatic tarping system.

543
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:50,000
It doesn't have like bungee cords or ropes that hold it in place.

544
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,000
It's designed to cover a load and then quickly uncover a load.

545
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,000
So if you see a tarp flapping it is likely just the back of that auto tarp.

546
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:02,000
But there are which is why we mandate the the second tarp.

547
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,000
And then we have the the plastic wrapping beneath that.

548
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:12,000
So so that's the layers of of defense that that we have and we're just the auto tarp is out of an abundance of caution.

549
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:17,000
We just want some additional pressure to ensure that everything stays nice and tight.

550
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:22,000
Thank you very much. I appreciate that and I know that was a concern from a lot of people that I had heard.

551
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:28,000
And for the audiences information we will we will be posting this presentation and the PowerPoint on our website tomorrow.

552
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,000
So it will be available for you.

553
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,000
So I'd just like to thank you Colonel and Nicole.

554
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:37,000
We really appreciate you being here taking the time to share all of your knowledge and expertise with us.

555
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,000
So thank you.

556
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,000
Thank you.

557
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,000
Thank you.

558
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,000
Madam Mayor and members of City Council.

559
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Nathan Yagenda is item four public statements.

560
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During this agenda item four the city council will hear public statements from the first tense persons.

561
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:02,000
We have submitted speaker cards after the first 10 persons have spoken.

562
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,000
Subsequent persons who submitted speaker cards will be called to speak.

563
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:10,000
During agenda item number six which is a continuation of agenda item number four.

564
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:14,000
Gender items four and six are the times a lot for public statements.

565
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:18,000
On all items other than public hearing supportments and information reports.

566
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker will be called on in the order but you're covered submitted to speak for this public statements item four.

567
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:30,000
For a period of number three minutes each persons addressing the city council are requested to state their name and community residents for the record.

568
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,000
Madam Mayor and as you have any comments we can begin public statement.

569
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,000
Please do.

570
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:43,000
I will be calling three names at a time so you'll know who you follow.

571
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,000
The first.

572
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:46,000
Maya.

573
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,000
Mike Houser.

574
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,000
And Mike Shaw.

575
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,000
Good evening, Mayor and council members.

576
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,000
My name is Maya.

577
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,000
I'm here for out of desperation seeking your help and leadership.

578
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,000
My top priority like yours is public safety.

579
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:18,000
But how can we feel safe in our public parts kids playground or even our homes when off leash dogs aggressive dogs roam freely.

580
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:27,000
Just this past Thursday, I was attacked by an unleash pit bull inside my apartment hallway animal control garden wall but the property manager if you saw copyright.

581
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:35,000
If you used to give the officer the dog owner's information even though I had the they apartment number on the video.

582
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:39,000
She even said that she's not going to give any personal information to police officer.

583
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,000
This isn't a new issue.

584
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:46,000
For months we had off leash dogs, especially pit bulls running through the hallways.

585
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,000
Kids playground and elevators.

586
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,000
This is not just a concern.

587
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:54,000
It's a public safety crisis every year over 4.5 million people.

588
01:10:54,000 --> 01:11:01,000
Many of them children are beaten by dogs and over 100 of those attacks of fetal.

589
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:06,000
Yet when we speak about it, we are harassed or dismissed.

590
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:13,000
Dog owners say they animals are friendly but we know dogs can be triggered unexpectedly by noise smell or movements.

591
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:20,000
I personally witnessed multiple attacks including at Memorial Park with tables and rockbirlers roam off leash.

592
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:26,000
Why are dogs being prioritized over the safety of lives of our children?

593
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,000
Dogs are now being allowed on flights and swings.

594
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,000
Then only for kids.

595
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,000
This pose a serious health risk.

596
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:38,000
Dog feces in your in carry bacteria dangerous, especially for children.

597
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:43,000
Dogs naturally carry 37.4 million colonies of bacteria.

598
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:49,000
And when leash dogs still insecure in crowded spaces, they protective instincts can turn dangerous.

599
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,000
When I ask why don't you use the dog park?

600
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:57,000
The dog owner told me that it was too dirty, infected or full of mean dogs.

601
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,000
So her solution was to bring her dogs to the children's playground instead.

602
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,000
She's not the only one and this has to stop.

603
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:12,000
We need park rangers to police officers to constantly enforce leash laws, issue fines, and when necessary,

604
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,000
it comes to skate dogs after repeated violations.

605
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:21,000
People need consequences to change behavior because without enforcement rules means nothing.

606
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,000
I am currently my third trimester.

607
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:27,000
The dog could have not me over, cost trauma, or worse.

608
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,000
The loss of my baby.

609
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,000
I live in fear that my toddler will be the next victim.

610
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,000
The trauma is real and it's preventable.

611
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,000
He's screaming at me that there's no such law in California as leash dogs.

612
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:43,000
The property manager knows the issue, but she's waiting till a real injury of that happens.

613
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:48,000
Why do I no longer have the right to safely walk in my only neighborhood?

614
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,000
Why?

615
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:56,000
I must take like, do have to wait till it tragedy happened and how many innocent lives do we need to lose to take real changes?

616
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:00,000
Please, I urge you enforce three police laws.

617
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:07,000
Hold landlords accountable and protect the public, especially children from this growing danger.

618
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:17,000
Thank you.

619
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:21,000
Madam Mayor and Councilman, we're going to evening.

620
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:25,000
My cows are I'm a resident of the city of Camerillo and I come to you before you tonight,

621
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:31,000
representing new west symphony, which has been turret counties, world class symphony orchestra.

622
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:40,000
I also come before you tonight as one of the volunteer co-chairs for our summer fundraising event, which is called summer fest,

623
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:47,000
which will be held this year on June 29th at 5 p.m. at the beautiful Rancho de Las Palmas events center,

624
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:51,000
which is located off of Tera Rojada and the 23 freeways.

625
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:59,000
The symphony is celebrating its 30th anniversary this year, providing world-class concert performances to residents of Ventura County,

626
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:04,000
as well as supporting Arts Outreach and Education for Students Countywide.

627
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:09,000
In keeping with the 30th anniversary, our theme this year is pearls.

628
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,000
And our concert this year is called Dancing Through the Decades.

629
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:21,000
We have an all-star lineup of incredibly talented singers and musicians who will be performing hits from the last 30 years,

630
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:29,000
everything from the Beatles to Frank Sinatra, Chicago, Ricky Martin, Amy Winehouse, Journey, and much more.

631
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,000
The event includes a happy hour with a hosted bar.

632
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:39,000
We have a special drink lined up and also a local artist will be displaying their artwork.

633
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,000
Dinner features a top quality buffet in an elegant setting.

634
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,000
We are going to have a live auction.

635
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:52,000
Before the concert begins, for all attendees it includes a Dodger tickets behind home plate.

636
01:14:52,000 --> 01:15:00,000
Vacation homestays, special dining and wine events trips and much more with all the proceeds going to support our programming throughout.

637
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:15,000
We will also be paying tribute to special honorees that have supported the Symphony for its first 30 years and we will be having a special tribute to the first responders to the devastating mountain fire.

638
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:26,000
And as it's close to July 4, we will also be having a period July 4, a special musical patriotic tribute which will be a part of the concert as well.

639
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:44,000
This is one of the symphonies, most important fundraising events annually, tickets for the dinner and the concert or just the concert itself are extremely limited and do go quickly and a portion of your dinner ticket is tax deductible, which is always a plus.

640
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:58,000
So, for more information about summer fest 2025 or purchase tickets, that information can be found at the new S. Symphony website, which is, uh, new S. Symphony, all one word dot org and the backslash summer fest.

641
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:07,000
There you'll find a complete information about the event as well as information if you'd be interested in being a sponsor of the event or a donor and thank you very much for your time.

642
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,000
Thank you.

643
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:26,000
Good evening, mayor and council. It's great to see you all again, as always.

644
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:37,000
I want to start off by thanking you all for giving the landfill issue the attention at dessert. I really appreciate that.

645
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:56,000
We talked about it the last time. You guys didn't, don't say anything, but I'm used to that. I get ignored at home the same way. So, but, um, you know, so I don't know what's going on, but you got on it and, um, and of course, typical me. I went and dug up the, uh,

646
01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:13,000
MOU for the last landfill expansion and did my research. Um, I can tell you, councilman, listener that the truck load limit was negotiated as part of those negotiations.

647
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:25,000
I'd love a chance to interact with you if you are absolutely entertaining a landfill expansion. I wish that would be something we could all be involved with.

648
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:37,000
That being said, that being when I say transparency, the transparency I'm getting at isn't like something the farious is going on, it's transparency of knowing what is going on.

649
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:50,000
As I go to these other councils around the county, I see those council members do different reach out and make different efforts than we do in our own city.

650
01:17:50,000 --> 01:18:06,000
So, for instance, like I've got my silly, I made up a questionnaire and I went down to the market and I got behind my neighborhood council number two position and I started trying to interact with the citizens.

651
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:26,000
My questionnaire is now like 37 things long, questions long. But, um, where I was going with this is I just want to ask maybe two things. If you guys would consider perhaps having a quarterly meeting with the entire council and all of the neighborhood council.

652
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:44,000
So, we could have someone on one interaction with you aside from just interacting with a liaison. The next one I would like to ask is if you would consider having every six months twice a year, a community town hall meeting.

653
01:18:44,000 --> 01:19:11,000
I know we talked about this back when Fred was serving and Fred said we tried it, nobody showed up, but that doesn't mean we can't try it again because I think we need to improve on three minutes every two weeks as the only interaction we have to try and manage all the issues that concern us all. So, thank you for listening and thanks again for all your efforts.

654
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:16,000
Thank you.

655
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:33,000
The next three speakers, Pat Lewis, Nancy Mason and Jennifer Frank.

656
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:39,000
Good evening. So, I'm here to talk about the Simi Valley Library.

657
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:53,000
I'm on the Simi Valley Library Foundation and our goal is to improve that facility. I moved here in 1984 and one of the first things in my husband and I did was get a library card.

658
01:19:53,000 --> 01:20:03,000
So, we are now looking at three generations of my family who have used the library at Nazio and we love that library.

659
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:15,000
So, it's sort of three generations in my family but like me it's getting older and it's starting to show its age.

660
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:28,000
It needs improvement, it needs to be brightened, the money that we were allocated during the grant process is vital to us making a difference.

661
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:35,000
It'll help us to keep the library relevant for our community, particularly our youth.

662
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:45,000
There are not a lot of places that the youth can go and just be safe and do what they want to do without worrying about anything other than being at the library.

663
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:55,000
And I think our community deserves a library that is bright and inviting and comfortable. How many of you have been in that community room lately?

664
01:20:55,000 --> 01:21:09,000
It's ugly. There's not even a picture on the wall. There is so much that we could do. There are so many things that we could do to make that library a more inviting place for our community.

665
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,000
Particularly our youth. Thank you.

666
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:34,000
Good evening, Mayor. Kevin on council members. My name is Nancy Mason. I'm the vice president on the board of directors at the Samaritan Center. Thank you for giving me the time to speak tonight.

667
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:46,000
I want to share something critical that affects not just the Samaritan Center that our entire community recently extreme weather events have led to frequent public safety power shut off the medicine electric.

668
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:50,000
These outages have lasted up to three or even four days at a time.

669
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:57,000
While these measures are meant to ensure public safety, they've created an entirely different kind of crisis for those we serve.

670
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:05,000
When the power goes out, life at the Samaritan Center doesn't just slow down, it comes to a halt. Let me paint a picture of what that looks like.

671
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:13,000
First, we lose food, roughly 1,500 pounds of it stored in our commercial freezers and refrigerators. That's food meant to nourish the hungry.

672
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:25,000
Our kitchen with serves hot meals for 40 to 50 individuals every day, Monday through Thursday goes dark. Food pickups from local grocery stores are canceled because we can't store their food.

673
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:32,000
And the ripple effects don't stop there, showers, laundry facilities, meal distributions are gone.

674
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:38,000
Case management, where we help with referrals, crisis counseling and housing applications come to a standstill.

675
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:47,000
Even our food pantry which provides groceries to an average of 48 households, each pantry that is forced to shut its store, it stores.

676
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:55,000
Every year we serve about 3,800 semi-value residents, people who rely on us in their time of need, but during a power outage our hands are tied.

677
01:22:55,000 --> 01:23:01,000
Imagine being homeless and suddenly losing access to basic necessities, like a shower or a meal.

678
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:05,000
Imagine the uncertainty, the social isolation, the fear.

679
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:11,000
Now picture being a family that depends on our food pantry to get through the week and finding it closed.

680
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:15,000
Without power there's no food, no support, no hope.

681
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:23,000
The effects ripple through every part of our community, families face increased food insecurity, individuals lose access to housing and employment assistance,

682
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:29,000
critical connections, those of counseling, referrals, or even a kind word are lost.

683
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:33,000
But there is a solution, backup generators.

684
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:39,000
With the right investment we can keep our doors open, our power on and our services running, even during the worst outages.

685
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:45,000
Generators would ensure that no one goes hungry, no one's left in the dark, and no one loses the lifeline they depend on.

686
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,000
We can't do it alone.

687
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:53,000
We need your support to ensure that when the power goes out, the Samaritan Center doesn't go with it.

688
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:59,000
Together we can build resilience and safeguard the services that so many depend on.

689
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,000
Thank you for listening.

690
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:05,000
Thank you for standing with us in the approval of the committee's recommendation for the project grant for funding.

691
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:11,000
And let's work together to keep the lights on for those who need them the most.

692
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,000
Good evening, Mayor Cavanagh.

693
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:32,000
Members of the City Council, City Manager Argrabri and my fellow community members.

694
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:39,000
Jennifer Frank and I'm here yet again to speak to you about our library, and I am a resident here in CMU Valley.

695
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:48,000
Tonight I am here to show my strong support for the Library Foundation's Community Projects Grant Proposal to revitalize the Library's Teen Center.

696
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:57,000
The Community Projects Grant Panel voted to grant $15,000 for the Teen Center, and I urge you to approve this amount.

697
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:04,000
When I was here a couple of weeks ago, you helped fully point it out that the city does not own the building that houses our library.

698
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,000
I very much appreciate your directness about this matter.

699
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,000
Thank you.

700
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,000
And I understand that this complicates renovation efforts.

701
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:20,000
With that in mind, the proposal for the Teen Center would not involve any construction or permanent changes to the building itself.

702
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:28,000
The grant would allow the purchase of new comfortable furniture, a smart board, as well as multi media charging stations.

703
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:35,000
It would also fund the purchase of a digital media kit, which would include a green screen microphone and lighting equipment.

704
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:46,000
As the parent of a teenager who lives here in CMU, I can attest to the fact that there are not many places for our teenagers to hang out here in CMU Valley, especially for free.

705
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:55,000
Our Library's Teen Center could be an inviting, engaging, and safe place for CMU Valley's young people to study, collaborate, and just hang out.

706
01:25:55,000 --> 01:26:01,000
The items that this grant will provide will make a huge difference toward revitalizing this space.

707
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:06,000
I strongly urge you to approve the Community Projects Grant funding for our Library's Teen Center.

708
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,000
Thank you for your time.

709
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:26,000
The next three speakers, John Lapper, Kerry Mueller, and Howard Pector, Director.

710
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:32,000
John Lapper, CMU Valley, Mayor Kavanaugh, City Council, and City Manager.

711
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:38,000
I'll have to abridge this a little bit since the Army Corps spoke, and so did Waste Man on it.

712
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,000
I didn't know they'd get there first.

713
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:51,000
Tonight we heard from the Army Corps of Engineers for what I was, which was an excellent public relations presentation on the fire ash disposable to CMU Valley Waste Management and Landfill.

714
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:59,000
Also, was the Waste Management presentation, and they had a press release, and also the City of CMU Valley put out their little blurb.

715
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:18,000
While I can appreciate the awesome support to CMU Valley from Waste Management, the need to assist our neighboring cities from the tragic fires, the wonderful relationship of Waste Management and our city leaders, when must also take note of the tremendous financial gain to Waste Management from the fire disposal to the CMU Landfill.

716
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:34,000
I spoke at length to Sean McDermott, Venture Accounting Environmental Services Manager, and while putting it easy as far as precautions prescribed, I still have serious concerns about the monitoring of the disposal material at the Waste Management Landfill.

717
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:41,000
Sean McDermott conveyed that the airborne particles still present a hazard during transportation and dumping for sure.

718
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:47,000
Tests of the U.N. fire reveals levels of lead and arsenic that exceed allowable limits.

719
01:27:47,000 --> 01:28:00,000
Also found where a class of contaminants called polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, which can cause headaches, coughing, skin irritation, and over long periods of exposure can increase the risk of cancers.

720
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:08,000
We all remain clueless as to what chemicals are actually being done. Of course hazardous waste is a no-no, contaminants still exist.

721
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:14,000
So my concerns really are what happens when it gets hot, what happens when it gets windy out there.

722
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:18,000
What happens when the rain gets there and we start stewing what's in there.

723
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:29,000
So the only thing that I can come up with to take care of that is I believe there's a need for independent ongoing air quality testing in the city of the waste management.

724
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:34,000
Landfill. It requests was made to the Ventura County Board of Supervisors also.

725
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:39,000
Frankly, I don't care who fits the bill. Just as long as it is done expeditiously.

726
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:44,000
So as to protect the residents of Sinie Valley, this should not be a big ask.

727
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:50,000
And I heard that there currently isn't that air monitoring system, but it definitely needs to be done.

728
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:57,000
Lastly, I'll remind this council of Rocket9 facility that for 50 years, mostly in secret in the name of National Defense,

729
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:02,000
as contaminated our neighborhoods. And to this day at the Sanaces and a field lab,

730
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:06,000
the cleanup has been for the most part delayed for good 20 years.

731
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:11,000
Please respond to the community what you intend to do with this request,

732
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,000
which is shared by many concerned residents of Sinie Valley,

733
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:18,000
for again independent air monitoring at sooner than later.

734
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:19,000
Thank you.

735
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:31,000
Good evening Mayor Cavanon City Council members.

736
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,000
Thank you for your dedication and your hard work for our city.

737
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:38,000
My name is Carrie Mueller, and I'm here on behalf of the Sinie Valley Library Foundation,

738
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,000
not to be confused with the friends of the library.

739
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:48,000
The Sinie Valley Library Foundation's mission is to financially support the Sinie Valley Public Library

740
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:52,000
in its efforts to renovate and revitalize the library and its services.

741
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:56,000
I would like to request that you award us the money we've requested

742
01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:00,000
that the Community Project's grant committee has recommended.

743
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:08,000
Our first endeavor is improving the teen center by creating a modern, technology-friendly space that meets the needs of the communities youth.

744
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:18,000
This funding will allow the library to provide essential furnishings and technology resources that foster learning, creativity, and engagement for local teens.

745
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:34,000
By enhancing the teen center, the foundation's hope is to increase teen engagement and improve their access to technology, which will strengthen the library's role as a vital resource for the 13,000 or approximately 13,500 teens living in CME.

746
01:30:34,000 --> 01:31:00,000
The power outages were mentioned. We have homeless families. We have more kids being homeschooled now than in the past, but also even for our kids who are in our schools after hours and on weekends they don't have access or some of them don't have access to the technology or even to charge some of their devices that they use.

747
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:16,000
But we would really like to be able to create an environment that's open to them like she says free, but friendly and welcoming to any and all to come in and use. So we would really appreciate your support and passing the community grant.

748
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,000
Thank you.

749
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:40,000
Good evening there, council members. My name is Howard Pector, sadly I'm not a CME value resident by my local business owner.

750
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:46,000
I also serve on the Board of Directors for the CME Valley Chamber of Commerce, which I'm representing tonight.

751
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:52,000
The Chamber would like to express its gratitude to the city for their continued support of our organization.

752
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:57,000
We're looking forward to co-hosting the upcoming state of the city with the city of CME Valley.

753
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:03,000
The event will take place at the CME Valley Cultural Arts Center on Wednesday, May 28.

754
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:08,000
Welcome reception at 11am, followed by a formal program beginning at 12.

755
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:18,000
This presentation will showcase key city priorities, major accomplishments of coming projects and community focus initiatives that are shaping CME Valley's future.

756
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:23,000
Emission is free, the space is limited, and advance reservations are required.

757
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:28,000
So please register online at www.svvac.

758
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:34,000
Thank you very much.

759
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:40,000
Jan Glassband.

760
01:32:40,000 --> 01:33:01,000
Hi everybody, how are you tonight?

761
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:05,000
Good evening Mayor Cavanon and members of the city council.

762
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:10,000
Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak on behalf of the CME Valley Cultural Association.

763
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:17,000
And thank you all for everything that you do to make CME Valley community that we all can be proud of.

764
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:25,000
In CME we are blessed to have many nonprofit organizations that looked after the physical and emotional well-being of our citizens.

765
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:37,000
We are also very fortunate there are organizations that deal with the cultural well-being of our citizens bringing us together and unifying us under a common umbrella of cultural and social enrichment.

766
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:48,000
Over the past 30 years CME Valley Cultural Association has successfully produced events that have served over 200,000 residents of all ages and backgrounds.

767
01:33:48,000 --> 01:34:06,000
The ghost tour in Strathen Park, Tumble Wee Town, and the Nottingham Festival are events that not only resulted in invaluable opportunities to families to share memorable experiences but they also brought great benefit to the CME Valley business community.

768
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:17,000
The funds generated by these events have allowed for the development of multiple children's arts programs and have enabled SVCA to partner with the CME Valley Unified School District.

769
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:25,000
In 2017, Arts Cultural Enrichment Center was established on site at CME Elementary School.

770
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:42,000
Where young people of all ages can find healthy, life-affirming activities that are educational and encourage critical thinking skills while at the same time provide opportunities to express themselves in a creative, nurturing group environment.

771
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:57,000
Two such tuition fee programs are literature and action unbound and literature and action junior which offer four times a year to children 8 to 12 and 9 to 17 will actually 9 to 25 now we expand of it.

772
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:05,000
These after school programs are performance-based and focus on classic world and American literature in play form.

773
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:13,000
These two programs first began in 1996 and have since served over 125 CME school children each year.

774
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:27,000
Our endeavor in 2025 in the project we are hoping the city council might reconsider supporting is a one day international festival and marketplace featuring food, entertainment and crafts from all over the world.

775
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:39,000
This event will help to subsidize our existing non tuition based programs while allowing us to develop other no-cross creative arts opportunities for young people and seniors.

776
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:57,000
Admission to this event is 100% free so that everyone, particularly those who are economically challenged might be able to enjoy a day with family and friends in the spirit of building a stronger, more culturally enriched and tolerant community.

777
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:04,000
Thank you for your time and consideration.

778
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:14,000
Madam mayor that was a 10 speaker and we will have council comments after item six when all speakers have spoken.

779
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:17,000
Thank you.

780
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:32,000
Madam mayor members of the city council the next item on the agenda is public hearings can I just I'm sorry may I just ask though how many more speakers we have we have 15 more okay thank you.

781
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:38,000
Madam mayor members of the city council next on the agenda is public hearings this is the time for testimony on public hearings.

782
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:48,000
All the consideration of matters has presented on this agenda that the record show that do notice was given as required by law and an affidivitous effect is on file in the office of the city court.

783
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:56,000
All comments submitted by email have already been provided to the city council and will be made part of the record however they will not be read by the city clerk this evening.

784
01:36:56,000 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker will be called on in the order which the car was submitted to speak for this public testimony item five for a period of number than five minutes each.

785
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:10,000
Persons addressing the city council are requested to state their name and community residents for the record.

786
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:21,000
Comments should be limited to matters relevant to the item on the agenda and may be ruled out of order if comments are unrelated to the item the reports of city staff relating to these matters shall be made part of the record of this meeting.

787
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:30,000
If you challenging court any of the city council decisions may hear tonight, you may be limited to raising only those issued you or someone else raised at this public hearing.

788
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:50,000
The time with in which to distribute view must be sought is governed by California code of civil procedure section 1094.6 public hearing item five a public hearing to consider a general plan amendment prescreening review of gpps dash 2025 dash 001.

789
01:37:50,000 --> 01:38:02,000
Still wave LLC a request to change the general plan land use designation for portions of mall district within city valley town center specific plan from general commercial.

790
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:15,000
From general commercial to high density and very high density residential to make the district a horizontal mixed use site look located at 1555 see me tell center way and principal planner.

791
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:25,000
Now I'm going to secure that be environmental services director Sean Gibson and environmental services directors to tease peils are here to present this item.

792
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:30,000
Before we begin are there any expertise communications report.

793
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:39,000
I will say that I met with the developer prior to this meeting.

794
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:49,000
Did anyone else not recently by 10 of the marketing meeting on Thursday and heard one of their representative speaking about their ideas.

795
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:56,000
And I met with them along with our assistant city manager about two months ago.

796
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:57,000
Okay.

797
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:58,000
All right.

798
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:00,000
Thank you we may begin.

799
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,000
Very good.

800
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:19,000
Good evening council members tonight's request is for a general plan prescreening application at the senior valley town center for those in the audience a general plan prescreening request is not a formal entitlement no project is being approved tonight.

801
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:34,000
Rather a concept discussion is occurring to evaluate whether or not the applicant can proceed ahead with a formal application staff has received some basic information that we have provided in the staff report for your understanding of the project.

802
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:50,000
And the goal tonight is to engage with both the applicant and the public to listen concepts and ideas if the council decides to proceed with going forward with the request if for some reason the council does not decide to proceed forward with the request.

803
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:58,000
The existing rules of the CME town center specific plan would still apply and any development could still be done in accordance with the specific plan.

804
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:01,000
So with that tonight we'll turn over to principal planner.

805
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:06,000
Narna Narna going to secure to provide the staff presentation.

806
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:11,000
Good evening Mayor Kavanaugh and members of the city council.

807
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:33,000
The applicant still wave LLC is requesting a general plan prescreening authorization to move forward with a formal application to change general plan land use designation for portions of the mall district within the CME valley town center specific plan from general commercial to high density and very high density.

808
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:46,000
As a result of this proposed change significant portions of the town center would become zone for multifamily residential uses and result in the elimination of commercial zoning in portions of the town center.

809
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:57,000
If authorized to proceed the applicant may file a formal application for general plan amendment any time during a one year period following the prescreening hearing.

810
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:07,000
The CME valley town center specific plan is a comprehensive master plan for the site with separate sub zones are shown in the diagram.

811
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:12,000
The town and country district on the west includes big box retail.

812
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:17,000
The residential district to the north includes the 500 unit avalanche apartments.

813
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:23,000
The gateway district on the east includes effectiveness facility and some vacant lots.

814
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:30,000
The central mall district is where the general plan land use designation changes are being proposed.

815
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:41,000
The areas proposed will change are located in the 44.7 acre mall district of the specific plan between Jefferson way and CME town center way.

816
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:46,000
The subject site has a general plan designation of general commercial.

817
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:59,000
As mentioned previously the 500 unit avalanche apartments within the 23.5 acre residential district of the specific plan which also has a resident general plan designation of general commercial.

818
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:06,000
Though the designation is equivalent in the specific plan to very high density residential.

819
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:14,000
This exhibit depicts the general plan land designations that would be required to accommodate the density ranges the applicant is requesting.

820
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:19,000
The changes would encompass the parking lot areas on the east and the west.

821
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:26,000
The eastern anchor tenants base and retail spaces on the north side of the site adjacent to Jefferson way.

822
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:34,000
12.25 acres encompassing parcels A, B and C as shown on the diagram would be changed to very high density residential.

823
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:40,000
The remaining 3.5 acre parcel D on the east would become high density residential.

824
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:48,000
Note that the additional commercial structures proposed by the applicant in the southern parking lot are not part of this pre-screening.

825
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:55,000
This exhibit shows the proposed land use designations on the city's general plan land use map.

826
01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:01,000
This exhibit shows the proposed land use changes overlaid on an aerial image.

827
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:09,000
The very high density parcels are shown in yellow, the high density parcel is shown in green.

828
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:17,000
The two proposed land use basis nations have density ranges from 10.1 units to 35 units per acre.

829
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:23,000
The high density designation encourages high density town homes and 2 to 3 story apartments.

830
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:34,000
The very high density designation encourages 3 story or taller apartments and is generally intended for use in the central portion of the valley floor.

831
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:43,000
The proposed changes would result in the demolition of approximately 53% of the existing mall with 312,000 square feet being removed.

832
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:48,000
42,000 square feet of new retail is being proposed.

833
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:58,000
There would be a net loss of 270,000 square feet of retail which is approximately 45% of the existing mall.

834
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:11,000
With the changes, there is a potential of 281 to 498 residential units to be developed as shown in this table prior to any application of state density bonus law.

835
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:22,000
State density bonus law may allow up to 100% increase in density to 996 units with associated development wavers, concessions and limited local control.

836
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:31,000
The applicant is proposing 291 units to 375 units.

837
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:35,000
This slide has the specific plan objectives that are relevant to this change.

838
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:44,000
The mall district has seen significant challenges with retail vacancies and the closure of the two anchor tenant buildings in 2017 and 2024.

839
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:53,000
The project may be consistent with the specific plans objectives if the proposed land use changes result in the revitalization of the mall district.

840
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:58,000
This would require that a true mixed use environment be created by the overall proposal.

841
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:01,000
There would need to be sufficient residents.

842
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,000
And she units with wearing price points and in enough volume to provide significant support to the retail users.

843
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:19,000
Sefficient retail must also be retained on the site. The revitalized retail made then provide more employment and sales tax revenue than is currently generated.

844
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:25,000
These are the criteria used to consider a pre-screening request as laid out in staff report.

845
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:30,000
The proposed changes to the mall district may be compatible with all the land use uses in the area.

846
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:40,000
If design considerations such as architectural consistency and connectivity between the residential and commercial portions are taken into account in the final design.

847
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:49,000
There are our potential land use and compatibility with the hillside performance standards and objectives of the specific plan in general plan.

848
01:45:49,000 --> 01:46:10,000
Protective measures such as a development agreement may be required to ensure the proposed project accompanying the general plan amendment request is compatible with other existing and proposed land uses in the area and aligns with the cities objectives.

849
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:21,000
The proposed changes may be consistent with the general plan policies that prioritise in fill and redevelopment of existing developed sites and mixed use districts.

850
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:35,000
If the housing provided supports the economic vitality of the mall area.

851
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:48,000
The economic benefits of the town centre with employment and sales tax increase would need to be clearly demonstrated as part of the final application to avoid conflicting with the economic vitality policy in the general plan.

852
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:57,000
There is a risk that the proposed changes may not align with the city's goal of a vibrant town centre due to the permanent loss of the commercial square footage.

853
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:06,000
Finally in the last 12 months, there has been no other amendments in the same general plan area that have been considered and denied.

854
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:12,000
No has there been a new land use study or policies adopted.

855
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:17,000
The following alternatives are available to the city council as laid out in the staff report.

856
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:20,000
Staff has no recommendation.

857
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:26,000
This concludes staff's presentation and we are available for questions.

858
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:32,000
Are there any questions or staff from city council members.

859
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,000
Council member roads.

860
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,000
Thank you Madam Mayor.

861
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:52,000
Staff, if this pre-screen is done tonight and it's not accepted when can the next pre-screen be brought back to us for this project.

862
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:56,000
Generally, it would be after 12 months.

863
01:47:56,000 --> 01:48:01,000
Thank you.

864
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,000
Any other questions from city council?

865
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:06,000
Council Member Letster.

866
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:07,000
Thank you.

867
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:12,000
I'd like to understand better the potential ramifications of changing.

868
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:18,000
If I understand what you're saying we're obviously right now the specific plan is also on commercial.

869
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:31,000
What's being asked is not to have it a mixed use being commercial and residential, but basically now these areas become residential without that commercial element is that correct.

870
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:46,000
Correct. What is being asked is more of a horizontal mixed use over the more district where these areas in dark brown and light brown would become purely residential and the remaining red areas would remain commercial.

871
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:55,000
And if I realize pre-screen is just a conversation, it doesn't change the route.

872
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:59,000
If there were change made to make this residential.

873
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:13,000
If we were to go with high density, if I understand correctly, the numbers that you gave us likely we would lose control over those numbers unless we we're very specific with.

874
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:24,000
Well, let me back up how could we be specific about those numbers knowing that they're basically there's there's bonuses if they do affordability, etc.

875
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:34,000
Then they're taking out of our hands, is there a way that we could limit the number specifically to a certain number.

876
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:43,000
In development agreement is one option where you could try to limit the number and try to assure that the project gets built as proposed under that agreement.

877
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:46,000
And use the word try.

878
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:50,000
Would you explain why you mean use that word try?

879
01:49:50,000 --> 01:50:01,000
Well, we're somewhat fine tuning the in this proposal to identify the residential locations of the town center.

880
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:12,000
Because once you once you complete a rezone or land use amendment to residential state of California identifies residential properties under category.

881
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:19,000
And if there aren't assurances that a project is built a certain way so you may perhaps the development agreement.

882
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:28,000
It could be sold or a higher density could result through various different ownership or other laws which increase residential density.

883
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:33,000
Okay, thank you. And I actually have a question for Mr. Paris.

884
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:42,000
We reevaluate our general plan for the housing element, etc. every five years and we're required to get it certified, etc.

885
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,000
And we have to meet certain arena numbers.

886
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:51,000
We have never in all the time chosen to make any of this residential in the past. Why is that?

887
01:50:51,000 --> 01:51:05,000
So when we updated the general plan in 2012 and the housing element in 2021, we purposely did not select this CME Valley Town Center for to meet any of our regional housing needs assessment requirements.

888
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:14,000
We designated other properties throughout the city to provide new residential and the main purpose of that was to preserve the commercial sales tax space.

889
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:21,000
Any development of the Town Center would be subject to a public hearing process such as this for its consideration.

890
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:25,000
In a few years from now, we will be looking at a new housing element update.

891
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:37,000
We will be getting a new arena, our regional housing needs assessment number, eventually from the state of California, and we will need to eventually find where new housing can be accommodated somewhere in the city.

892
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:40,000
So that may be another appropriate time in the near future.

893
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:47,000
I'm talking about by twenty twenty nine that we will need to be very creative where we'll be accommodating new housing growth and development.

894
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:52,000
Anything we do here would eventually be applied to some of our regional calculations.

895
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:59,000
If new housing development were to occur in the meantime, but we will be going through this process in the near short term.

896
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:13,000
But the goal of not changing up until now was also part of our Nails and Dale economic development strategic plan adopted by the council within last couple years, as well as the envisioned CME Valley specific plan adopted.

897
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:22,000
Also within the past year, and where we looked at transforming LA Avenue and tapestry for new housing development in those commercial areas.

898
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:33,000
And only a little bit of the city is zone commercial and it's, you know, when I say a little bit about four percent of the city is zone commercial and we're always looking to preserve our sales tax space for our city budget.

899
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:41,000
And so the goal of balance growth, a common new housing development in the right areas there in a commercial areas that are languishing.

900
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:53,000
It's part of our formula going forward and saving commercial areas like this for exactly the right development that the community and the council support is the little bit of local control we still maintain.

901
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:56,000
Understood, okay, thank you.

902
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:59,000
Council member Iala.

903
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:07,000
I want to double click on the question that council member roads asked.

904
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:15,000
If for some reason if are we voting tonight that that is the plan.

905
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:21,000
And he asked if we for some reason say no.

906
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:32,000
That we have to wait another 12 months before this comes back or is one of the options that we can say we have some proposed changes.

907
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:39,000
We'd like you to come back incorporating those changes and that can be done within the 12 months.

908
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:48,000
So what you guys are voting on tonight is the ability for this to move forward toward a formal application, this is just a pre screening.

909
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:54,000
What the council can do during this process is ask that the applicant.

910
01:53:54,000 --> 01:54:00,000
Take into consideration feedback from the council if they are to proceed with a formal application.

911
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:08,000
So if there are certain things that the council wants to see in this development in that formal application this would be the time to bring that forward to the developer.

912
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:15,000
And then the developer can work with staff to make those requests reality.

913
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:21,000
And one of the things to that Mr. Gibson mentioned is the development agreement option obviously that's a negotiated document.

914
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:28,000
So in terms of ensuring that that's something that protects the cities and trusts and what the community and the council wants to see there.

915
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:31,000
It is something that would have to be negotiated with the developer.

916
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:34,000
And I do want to point out one of the things.

917
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:44,000
At this time too the council is not voting on a specific project there is no specific project while you're doing is looking at a consideration of a general plan.

918
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:54,000
And if that's all you're allowed to do during the pre screening process.

919
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:59,000
I have questions but I don't, I don't, yeah, the developer.

920
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:00,000
Okay.

921
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,000
Council.

922
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:03,000
Council member roads.

923
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:07,000
Thank you Mayor.

924
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:12,000
This is and off the wall question for our planning crew over there.

925
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:23,000
My biggest fear is once this zoning changes to residential we've lost all control as we have in the city and it's driving us absolutely bonkers.

926
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:32,000
I'd like to propose that we invent a brand new zoning type called commercial.

927
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:47,000
Is there any possibility of creating in this general kind of amendment a different type of zone that is would allow housing but not allow Sacramento the overreach that they have accomplished with density bonuses and those sort of things.

928
01:55:47,000 --> 01:56:01,000
I think the tool that Mr. Gibson alluded to the development agreement is really our best hope to say this is how we maintain local control on this property if we proceed with some type of formal development entitlement allowing housing.

929
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:04,000
I think that's not because we don't allow housing there.

930
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:09,000
We're not subject to certain state laws but once we start going down this path.

931
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:22,000
A development agreement put a cap on the the number that gets built here because it's built in accordance with the applicants request and they would agree to it in the city would agree to it and it would be binding that way.

932
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:27,000
If the property were to sell to a new developer they would also be subject to that same development agreement.

933
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:37,000
I think the city's have been employing to maintain that last passage of local control on a case by case faces I've seen some cities make every project go through development agreement.

934
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:41,000
Just to maintain prevent unintended consequences.

935
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:46,000
Thank you for that clarification.

936
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:55,000
I don't see any other questions from council so at this time I would like to open the hearing does the applicant wish to be heard on this matter.

937
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:58,000
Good evening.

938
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:18,000
My name's Greg Hall. I'm a managing director at Steel Wave. We are the new recent owner of CME Valley Town Center.

939
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:22,000
I'm joined this evening by my colleague Kevin Joyce.

940
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:28,000
It was a partner of mine and a big part of this project as well since late last year and our long time general manager.

941
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:33,000
Jeff de Julius and thank you to many of the merchants who are here this evening as well.

942
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:45,000
I wanted to first thank Mayor Kavanaugh Mayor Protem Judge council members Rhodes let's do our anayala for your time in your consideration tonight and prior to this night as well.

943
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:57,000
I also like to thank staff Samantha thanks for all the help you've provided Luis Stratus Sean Naren and the rest of your team you guys have been absolutely available.

944
01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:07,000
You've educated us on the history and the process and we've tried to follow your lead which is to make this really an iterative and partnership approach.

945
01:58:07,000 --> 01:58:13,000
I wanted to make sure everybody in this room understands that nothing is happening at this site tonight with any vote.

946
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:17,000
Just do we move forward in some form or fashion.

947
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:23,000
I'd also like to thank the community. Many members in this or many folks in this room.

948
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:28,000
We have tried to reach out early and often with the community of CME Valley.

949
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:33,000
We've had our own booth at the CME Valley Street Fair which takes place at the Town Center.

950
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:36,000
We've participated in community council meetings.

951
01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:45,000
We've been part of the Merchants Association, the Chamber of Commerce and dozens of one on one discussions with members of the community.

952
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:50,000
Before we get into the site plan itself.

953
01:58:50,000 --> 01:59:03,000
I wanted to just back up until you number one it's been partly informed by staff by the community and by what we think would make sense to revitalize the center.

954
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:11,000
As we think about the future of CME Town Center taking different twists and turns in terms of uses there.

955
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:14,000
This is not a test case. This isn't a trial balloon.

956
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:20,000
Mixed use redevelopment for class B malls is happening throughout the US, particularly in California.

957
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:23,000
There's many examples which I'm happy to share.

958
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:26,000
The main place mall in Santa Ana.

959
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:33,000
The Westminster mall which introduced 3,000 housing units that certainly not anything we're trying to attempt here.

960
01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:36,000
Laguna Hills Mall in Laguna.

961
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:46,000
Also another case where they've been able to revitalize foot traffic and I think most importantly, at least to the city coffers sales tax revenue.

962
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:56,000
And as you look at the reduction of retail space, one might stand back and say, wait a minute, what is it going to do at our sales tax revenue.

963
01:59:56,000 --> 02:00:00,000
But what we've seen happen in other examples and other projects of ours.

964
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:15,000
First of all, when you reduce the footprint from obsolete real estate to today's current modern real estate, the foot traffic increases, the dwell time increases and the sales tax revenue increases.

965
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:26,000
So we know it's imperative and a requirement of this process to present to you the city council and economic study that you guys can vet will hire them.

966
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:36,000
We've got a draft already but we'd like to submit it to the city when it's final and we'll go through all the math of does this actually make sense for the city from an economic perspective.

967
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:51,000
Sales tax revenue we think will certainly increase with the right footprint, but also property tax revenue with the housing base that could be could be added to the center.

968
02:00:51,000 --> 02:01:01,000
If I may, I think can plug in here.

969
02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:10,000
So I think this is what the room has seen as part of the pre screening application.

970
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:16,000
I was going to flip through a couple other slides that may be representative and what it could look like.

971
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:24,000
We've done this a bunch and the best projects by far are the ones that were informed by all the constituents.

972
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:28,000
The city, the community, the developer, the rent, the tenants.

973
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:30,000
We want that to be an iterative process.

974
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:35,000
So if there are things here that don't make sense, we want to respond to that.

975
02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:43,000
As I flip over, this is, this is an area of of what could be innate.

976
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:50,000
One of the concerns we heard from some of the community residents and some folks on city council is this is our commercial center.

977
02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:55,000
This is where we shop. This is sales tax and once it goes away, it goes away for good.

978
02:01:55,000 --> 02:02:00,000
I hope you can tell on this image what we're trying to do is preserve.

979
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:04,000
95, 98% of the front edge of this retail center.

980
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:09,000
This will still very much read as a retail town center.

981
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:13,000
The housing that you see in the background there, this is very much a draft.

982
02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:22,000
We can find two of these renderings, but that's that's depictive of the unit counts that we've talked about in this pre screening application.

983
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:30,000
What's important to note is over the last, this project was very well conceived over 20 years ago.

984
02:02:30,000 --> 02:02:33,000
It was delivered about 20 years ago.

985
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:36,000
Design intent was good, construction was good.

986
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:43,000
Since then, we've had GFC, the great financial crisis, we've had COVID, and more than anything.

987
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:45,000
We've just had a change in how we all shop.

988
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:54,000
Ecommerce has changed the format of these boxes, and as everybody here in this room knows, today the center is 50% least.

989
02:02:54,000 --> 02:03:02,000
Largely because we have two big, former Macy's and Robinson Maze on site, those formats are really tough to least today.

990
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:10,000
Until we can arrest the declining vacancy, we're not going to see sales tax or sales increase or sales tax revenue increase.

991
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:16,000
What we're trying to do is not say, hey, let's go in here and steam roll the town center, of course not.

992
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:25,000
The box on the left here, we actually have advanced discussions with a sporting good company that I hope and I think would be welcome in the city by the community.

993
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:30,000
But you'll see that in the foreground on the left side of the page, and then we want to repurpose that.

994
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:33,000
We don't want to demolish it, we don't need to throw anything else in a landfill.

995
02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:41,000
So let's try and repurpose that, and that's at the outer most size of tenants in the market today, those four plates are 53,000 feet.

996
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:47,000
We think we can get a lease sign in that ground floor, and we're going to do our best to get that second floor lease as well.

997
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:57,000
The former Robinson's May Macy's, which closed in 2017 on the east side, in this image is gone, that's 150,000 foot building.

998
02:03:57,000 --> 02:04:03,000
That's an extremely large plate, there aren't restaurants and there really aren't retailers today that are trafficking that space.

999
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:07,000
What's interesting is, everything in between those bookends is doing quite well.

1000
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:10,000
And we want to do nothing but support those tenants.

1001
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:17,000
We want to invest in that asset, we want to make this a better gathering and shopping place for families.

1002
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:21,000
One of the main thrust, and I think you can see this.

1003
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:31,000
In some of the other image you may dream enough to go off screen here, is this is that keyhole park that was added the parking that was added a few years ago.

1004
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:42,000
We really want to elevate this even more, right, and make this entertainment sporting lifestyle where families can go and gather and spend time.

1005
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:49,000
Right now the center somewhat reads as, I'm going to go in, I'm going to have a lunch room, I'm going to go to marshals, I'm going to go to olden, I'm going to leave.

1006
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:55,000
We'd really like this to be a more inviting and warm and welcome place for residents and family members to spend more time.

1007
02:04:55,000 --> 02:05:03,000
And I think that's, that's how we're going to see this uptick in sales for the merchants there.

1008
02:05:03,000 --> 02:05:14,000
This is the far eastern end, so to the right edge of this page is where that larger macy sits today, excuse me, this is still the west end.

1009
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:31,000
This would be, that image doesn't want to love for us tonight, but this is just a close up of the of the macy's west macy's east in this imagery has been removed, but our goal is because of our consumer shopping patterns because they've changed.

1010
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:37,000
We don't want to dereetail the center, we just want to right size it for today's tenants and for today's users.

1011
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:46,000
So removing that eastern macy's adding housing is going to immediately have hundreds of bodies that are embedded.

1012
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:54,000
Shoppers and merchants and customers of restaurants at the site, so we think having a housing there will support the retail.

1013
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:57,000
We don't think we've taken too much of this retail out.

1014
02:05:57,000 --> 02:06:06,000
The retail that is being removed is either entirely vacant or in the rear of the site which really hasn't performed anywhere near as well as the rest of the retail.

1015
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:09,000
That's the rest of the retail that's fronting the parking lot.

1016
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:22,000
But again, I just want to conclude by saying this was an informed site plan and ideas, but we want this to be iterative and hear from the community and hear from staff and city council about how to make it even better.

1017
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:24,000
Thank you.

1018
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:25,000
All right, thank you.

1019
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:29,000
There are any questions of the applicant from city council members.

1020
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:39,000
Council member roads.

1021
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:42,000
Sure, I'll go first.

1022
02:06:42,000 --> 02:06:45,000
Greg, thank you for the presentation.

1023
02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:48,000
Come on back up, please.

1024
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:56,000
So let's start with what we're going to agree on.

1025
02:06:56,000 --> 02:07:05,000
And that is that if I'm being pragmatic, the large footprint mall, especially that design format up there,

1026
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:10,000
would be hard to revitalize in and of itself as a mall.

1027
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:15,000
And in that revitalization, you had to purchase it.

1028
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:18,000
You're going to have to put a lot of investment into it.

1029
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:26,000
I even acknowledge that housing component is something that is useful to that mall.

1030
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:34,000
I've always been partial to four sale housing units as opposed to apartments.

1031
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:46,000
Can you tell me the difference for your organization, what putting apartments in versus putting for sale units is does to the numbers to make these things balance?

1032
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:48,000
Well, yes, I can.

1033
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:55,000
I will tell you that the mall itself is really, and I've shared this with council at a break even point if not a loss today.

1034
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:58,000
The two previous owners.

1035
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:05,000
The last control of the asset and there was a either foreclosure bankruptcy process and we don't want to be the third to do that.

1036
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:12,000
And I think as we continue to see that the mall is continued to decline in terms of occupancy and not operating income.

1037
02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:15,000
That's why we're here talking about how can we stop that, how can we make this better.

1038
02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:23,000
For sale product is a more sought after product in terms of profitability in today's market.

1039
02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:42,000
So we would agree that for sale, some maybe different types of products we can talk about single or single a bedroom two bedroom three bedroom different formats back to back zipper town homes of varying price points, but for sale would be most advantageous in today's market.

1040
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:45,000
In your free screen.

1041
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:52,000
Conversation it's been very high density and I don't know that for sale units fit in very high density.

1042
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:55,000
Can you help me visualize that.

1043
02:08:55,000 --> 02:09:06,000
Yeah, so the scheme that I showed up there that we could actually see the town homes those were ranging from the mid to mid teens to low 20s in terms of dwelling units.

1044
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:16,000
Again, back to the product type if these were traditional dueplexes or back to back town homes you're absolutely right you're not going to get that kind of density would be a lower density.

1045
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:27,000
There's a format called zipper town homes where they're kind of the inverse of each other they're very efficient in terms of coverage of the land and there you could recognize higher densities.

1046
02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:37,000
And how many we have a huge range of units to the from the acceptable to the incomprehensible.

1047
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:43,000
What's your gut telling you is going to be needed to make this thing pencil well.

1048
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:54,000
Well, I can answer that by telling you we probably should have planned at least in the in the submittal to staff.

1049
02:09:54,000 --> 02:10:04,000
A range that shook hands with the city zoning code meeting very high density and high density because what I'm happening is what we propose which is an outer bound of 375.

1050
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:12,000
The way that actually fell into the city zoning code allowed us to get up to a much higher number that wasn't the intent and welcome to our world in our fear.

1051
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:30,000
Right, I get that and I think we could what we could do is talk about other other other density ranges for those sites that can you know bring that whatever in the number is 400 something units down to what we are proposing or something that this room agrees on.

1052
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:34,000
I've got a couple more, but I'll defer.

1053
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:37,000
Okay, councilmember Lister's next.

1054
02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:47,000
Thank you and I know that I know that I don't know that we're opposed to a residential component, but I think we wreck it for me.

1055
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:56,000
I recognize that this is our crown jewel commercial for a city and want to be sure it stays the crown jewel and I want to be sure that we've explored all options.

1056
02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:59,000
So I'm a little concerned what I'm seeing here.

1057
02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:02,000
Well, let me just back it up.

1058
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:05,000
Has there been a consideration for instance of.

1059
02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:15,000
Maybe just putting residential on top and keeping commercial all underneath it for instance or integrating it together in some way or embracing.

1060
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:19,000
The 500 units that are already there behind you that are locked out.

1061
02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:26,000
I mean, I want to think about the design right now is there's one little walkway, but you have back facing 500.

1062
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:40,000
The 500 different units there's no road into that's convenient that to go all the way around there's anyway just it feels like you have residents there that you could immediately embrace and put into more of a retail.

1063
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:45,000
Shoppers, but I guess we have we looked at some of those options as well.

1064
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:51,000
Yeah, I think that that avalan project is as well least so there are bodies back there.

1065
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:55,000
There hasn't been as much flow from that project into the town center.

1066
02:11:56,000 --> 02:12:02,000
Well, what we're trying to do is if we did nothing, which is what's happened for the last many years.

1067
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:04,000
We know how that story ends.

1068
02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:07,000
The large boxes can't lease in the formats there now.

1069
02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:17,000
I wasn't going to get into the details, but that may seize west box, which is a smaller one that we'd like to repurpose as an adaptive reuse type play.

1070
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:24,000
That that's at least $12 million to renovate that building to make it ready for for one or two or three tenants.

1071
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:37,000
So it's a significant investment and and to be clear being able to have some sort of housing there a box the value of that land to reinvest into that building to reinvest into the rest of the center.

1072
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:43,000
I think you might have seen in the rendering there that the maces that exist today doesn't look like the one in that picture.

1073
02:12:43,000 --> 02:12:47,000
We really want to tie the center together to have some unity amongst the retail.

1074
02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:51,000
In terms of construction type on top of the retail.

1075
02:12:51,000 --> 02:12:59,000
The way that the buildings are built today, the stick frame retail probably doesn't support that kind of housing above the retail.

1076
02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:09,000
We could certainly look into that, but our idea was to make use of the land that's not leaseable today largely where maces east is.

1077
02:13:09,000 --> 02:13:14,000
And behind behind by Jefferson White.

1078
02:13:14,000 --> 02:13:19,000
Okay, that's the retail that just doesn't get traffic as much as the front retail that does very very well.

1079
02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:21,000
Understood.

1080
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:30,000
And I will tell you I know we have you have some outstanding tenants whether they're a full market rate or not even in that back area that are are doing great things.

1081
02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:34,000
One of my concerns and I may be articulate when we met a quite a while ago.

1082
02:13:35,000 --> 02:13:55,000
Is that to the residents of Simi Valley the entrance to the Simi Town Center is coming up here in Jiren and there it is and it this feels very much like what you're trying to do is put houses on one side and it's going to be right up against the freeway where we have hillside performance standards where we're not supposed to see that and then we have it on the other side and.

1083
02:13:55,000 --> 02:14:03,000
And it's to me it's feeling like it's encasing yes if you live there to be a lovely little neighborhood but it's not to me you're not feeling like.

1084
02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:09,000
It's invasive for the entire community and maybe that's just the concept I'm seeing.

1085
02:14:09,000 --> 02:14:12,000
But is how do we get around that.

1086
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:20,000
I think we should show you additional plans that actually solves that I mean maybe there's certainly ways to pull that back from town centerway.

1087
02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:25,000
So that the view corridor is more obvious that this is still see me town center that everybody remembers.

1088
02:14:25,000 --> 02:14:29,000
But you still have housing that's tucked maybe back towards Jefferson a little bit more.

1089
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:35,000
So we could certainly do some analysis of how to pull that back on both sides.

1090
02:14:35,000 --> 02:14:37,000
Okay. Thank you.

1091
02:14:37,000 --> 02:14:39,000
Council member.

1092
02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:42,000
Hello the.

1093
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:43,000
Council member.

1094
02:14:43,000 --> 02:14:45,000
Let's do our head.

1095
02:14:45,000 --> 02:14:54,000
I mentioned the houses on top of the retail which was not what I was thinking but I think what it speaks to is having the flexibility.

1096
02:14:54,000 --> 02:14:57,000
And I think.

1097
02:14:57,000 --> 02:15:00,000
One of the ways that what I would like to.

1098
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:14,000
Emergency is a mixed use overlay. Over personal A and parcel B so that we're not locked in to that being strictly residential.

1099
02:15:14,000 --> 02:15:24,000
And so as this gets built out, we might have other options as to what might go in parcel A and or in parcel B.

1100
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:35,000
So I would encourage you to look at doing that, which would which would give us a lot more flexibility and not lock us into simply just housing.

1101
02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:52,000
But instead of our ideas that might come from the community or from the council could be a hotel, could be a parking structure, could be a filming location, all of those things, which would not be allowed if we did not if we just strictly kept it as residential.

1102
02:15:52,000 --> 02:16:05,000
The other thing is you mentioned the community input, which I think is great. And so I would just encourage you to continue in all phases of that because with this particular development.

1103
02:16:05,000 --> 02:16:17,000
As you know, it's going to impact not just people already have their businesses on that lot. They're living literally in that same parking lot across from across that little street.

1104
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:24,000
So being able for them to provide input, I think going forward in all phases will be really important.

1105
02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:36,000
The other thing and I don't know if you go into detail in this phase of the project is the any amenities that might be brought into the plan.

1106
02:16:36,000 --> 02:16:52,000
So like when we're looking at this, we see places for housing, but where are the plans for things like open space for a community building, a pool, all of those things, when does that come into play?

1107
02:16:52,000 --> 02:17:00,000
Yeah, so if housing was considered and built here, those housing developments would have their own sort of embedded amenities.

1108
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:06,000
Right. So if I was to live there, I'd like to have my own clubhouse or pool or tennis court or what have you.

1109
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:11,000
So those would be part of that future residential development.

1110
02:17:11,000 --> 02:17:21,000
One of the programs we've talked about on the existing retail is not just reinvesting millions in the boxes to make them leaseable again, but to actually do a large facelift to the existing center.

1111
02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:30,000
So whether that's paint, signage and way finding or more likely, cleaning up the outside where we've got great seating groups, maybe there's place structures.

1112
02:17:30,000 --> 02:17:34,000
I think about Porter Ranch, and I think that's a good case study.

1113
02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:39,000
I think people are leaving CME Valley to go to Porter Ranch to go to Thousand Oaks to go to West Lake Village.

1114
02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:44,000
We're certainly not seeing the foot traffic at Town Center as we do at Porter Ranch.

1115
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:55,000
That format of the pads on the street, the spine of retail and the larger dry goods in an FNB food and beverage uses our setback.

1116
02:17:55,000 --> 02:17:57,000
That has worked for that community.

1117
02:17:57,000 --> 02:18:01,000
And that's that's that's why we had that plan looked out ways.

1118
02:18:01,000 --> 02:18:05,000
We saw that work and we think that the will work here as well.

1119
02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:13,000
But amenities like outdoor seating, we've even talked, we were just brainstorming about instead of the head and parking, do we expand the sidewalk and create some really great places.

1120
02:18:13,000 --> 02:18:21,000
For people to spend time outside of a restaurant or with their family waiting, you know, for somebody else to come join them for dinner.

1121
02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:30,000
So millions of dollars invested in what we'll call common area improvements, seating, water features, place structures, things like that.

1122
02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:33,000
But we'll be open to other amenities.

1123
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:34,000
Lots from you guys.

1124
02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:39,000
What I'm thinking about is all of what you're saying is great for people like us who are just going to the mall.

1125
02:18:39,000 --> 02:18:45,000
But if I'm buying a place there, I don't want shared spaces with anybody.

1126
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:47,000
I want I'm living in a community.

1127
02:18:47,000 --> 02:18:58,000
And my concern is that these different parcels in the future might be sold off to different developers who might have their own ideas of what the plan should look like.

1128
02:18:58,000 --> 02:19:10,000
So I think that as we're going forward, there should be maybe a master plan that has all of these amenities and it's specifically for the residents who are paying for these homes.

1129
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:27,000
And so no matter who buys these different lots to build on them, they will simply be building to the plan that was already signed off as opposed to doing the least expensive thing possible, which is we're not going to give a pool.

1130
02:19:27,000 --> 02:19:31,000
And have barbecue areas, et cetera for the residents, right?

1131
02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:43,000
So I think a master plan going forward that outlines all of the amenities, so no matter who builds on it, is just putting the plan into action would be great.

1132
02:19:43,000 --> 02:19:50,000
Including a community room that we as the city could use and other nonprofits could use, right?

1133
02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:56,000
Which we don't have a lot of in the city where they can host events and different receptions and things like that.

1134
02:19:57,000 --> 02:20:00,000
I understand we can work with staff on ideas.

1135
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:07,000
Thank you. I had a couple of questions. A couple of things you already touched on the economic impact study.

1136
02:20:07,000 --> 02:20:14,000
That is something we'd be greatly interested in and seen whether we're going to increase our sales section or not, which we're hoping for.

1137
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:17,000
So that would be good. So I'll be looking forward to that.

1138
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:30,000
And also we have mentioned staff has a development agreement, because that's a big concern is and also what council member analysis is if we entitle these and then when parcel sold off, we have no control.

1139
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:32,000
We've lost control on what's going to go there.

1140
02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:38,000
So I would be very, very interested in a development agreement with a lot of the things that we're talking about.

1141
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:51,000
Including the the number of housing units, because when we discuss it earlier, you don't need the high density, but really high, very high density, you need the high density just a little bit more.

1142
02:20:51,000 --> 02:20:57,000
So that could be something that could be worked into into the development agreement without having to come up with a new zoning.

1143
02:20:57,000 --> 02:21:01,000
So because we were talking about that just a little bit earlier today.

1144
02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:09,000
And I also want to make sure and figure out that we get, we don't do all the housing first and then nothing in the mall.

1145
02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:14,000
I want we need to have some type of a balance as we're building here, we're improving here.

1146
02:21:14,000 --> 02:21:20,000
So that nothing gets all done at the same so that housing doesn't get done and then nothing ever happens with them all.

1147
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:27,000
So that would be something I would like to see in a development agreement to is that do you have ideas on how that's going to happen at this time.

1148
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:37,000
Well, I can I can tell you that if housing was ever attained on this site, that that doesn't solve all of our problems as the investor and as the owner, we can't walk away from the mall.

1149
02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:43,000
The mall is the lifeblood of that center is what's going to make the housing successful and the housing hopefully makes them all more successful.

1150
02:21:43,000 --> 02:21:52,000
So we have to invest in the retail component to make our overall investment profitable and cash flowing, which it isn't today.

1151
02:21:52,000 --> 02:22:04,000
So we're not ignoring the retail by any stretch. In fact, I could share with the room, not specific names, but we're on the one-yard line of a full lease for that lower floor for sporting good company.

1152
02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:16,000
We also have a elevated food and beverage restaurant concept sort of a wine driven concept that wants to be on a new pad at town center way so that kind of forms that basis of the spine entrance that we've talked about.

1153
02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:25,000
As that becomes least out, maybe we build that spine neck. So there's definitely opportunity to capitalize on retail leasing today.

1154
02:22:25,000 --> 02:22:32,000
We've worked on a number of renewals with our existing tenants, all of whom I think are very excited about the investment we're going to make in the center.

1155
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:42,000
Okay, and one of the other things you would begin improving the signage and the landscaping and the basins and all that immediately.

1156
02:22:42,000 --> 02:22:47,000
We set off the fire alarm.

1157
02:22:47,000 --> 02:22:50,000
Okay.

1158
02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:55,000
We had a little chirping back in the back earlier and now we're getting a full fire alarm.

1159
02:22:55,000 --> 02:22:57,000
So they're going to check it out.

1160
02:22:57,000 --> 02:23:02,000
So those were my questions in the meantime. Do we want to take a five minute break?

1161
02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:07,000
Let's take a five minute break so that we can figure this out. So we'll adjourn for five minutes.

1162
02:23:07,000 --> 02:23:10,000
Thank you.

1163
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:29,000
Thank you, everyone. We're going to come back in to session.

1164
02:23:29,000 --> 02:23:31,000
Thank you.

1165
02:23:31,000 --> 02:23:34,000
Would the applicant like to come back up?

1166
02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:40,000
Thank you.

1167
02:23:40,000 --> 02:23:47,000
Well, the buzzing made me finish and stop my questions, but Councilmember Roads says seven other questions.

1168
02:23:47,000 --> 02:23:53,000
Thank you and for whoever pull the fire alarm. Thank you. I reloaded my coffee so we can go on for another few hours.

1169
02:23:53,000 --> 02:23:56,000
I pulled the alarm.

1170
02:23:56,000 --> 02:23:59,000
So I want to.

1171
02:23:59,000 --> 02:24:05,000
The mayor talked about comprehensive economic impact study and.

1172
02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:11,000
Here's the math problem that I and I alluded to it earlier and it's a great concern.

1173
02:24:11,000 --> 02:24:17,000
So let's talk about retail for a second and then we'll talk about the other component here.

1174
02:24:17,000 --> 02:24:23,000
Retail study needs to show us what competent management in a mall like this would look like.

1175
02:24:23,000 --> 02:24:29,000
And I'm not blaming any mall managers present for the current situation.

1176
02:24:29,000 --> 02:24:37,000
But obviously neglect and missed opportunities and economic downturn and so on have created a problem.

1177
02:24:37,000 --> 02:24:44,000
So to say, I will be doing better than it has been doing that's a low bar and that's not that's not a high enough bar.

1178
02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:54,000
We need to understand what a revitalized mall tax revenue stream would look like.

1179
02:24:54,000 --> 02:25:02,000
And then seeing that then we want to know.

1180
02:25:02,000 --> 02:25:08,000
For sale units and what that looks like as a potential tax base we would.

1181
02:25:08,000 --> 02:25:17,000
How does having rental units affect that number from the housing component.

1182
02:25:17,000 --> 02:25:21,000
I'm trying to think of the other scenarios that would be there.

1183
02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:33,000
There's a potential in the current building and right now of doing filming and that sort of thing and and as far as I could tell the new model doesn't have that in there.

1184
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:38,000
So there's a potential revenue loss from that type of a use.

1185
02:25:38,000 --> 02:25:42,000
How would we replace that and what's the overall thing.

1186
02:25:43,000 --> 02:25:56,000
I'm I'm of the mindset of saying hey we need a housing component to this and I get it come back with a proposal but I am.

1187
02:25:56,000 --> 02:26:09,000
I'm so fearful of the Sacramento shenanigans of what they do with housing as soon as we relinquish control that I have to be 100% convinced is going to be a slam dunk great deal for the city or when that comes back.

1188
02:26:09,000 --> 02:26:21,000
We'll try again and then you're in that new 12 months cycle so let's let's hit the home run the first time out but I want to I want to see this I hear there's a draft.

1189
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:27,000
I'd love to see more bet on that topic we we are more than happy to.

1190
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:38,000
Proceed with the development agreement that is absolutely fine with us that can put some sort of bookends very tight bookends on what can and can't be done at the town center so we're happy to work with staff.

1191
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:46,000
To do that and to have that not only govern the type of product that can be built in the obligations of the owner slash developer.

1192
02:26:46,000 --> 02:26:59,000
But the unit count right we're not trying to get cute with hey let's call it 24 dwelling units which puts us into the very high density and guess what now we're going to use 38 now we can we can we can make that finite.

1193
02:26:59,000 --> 02:27:08,000
That will go a long way to leaving fears and still we're in the try category which is always that weird gray area but.

1194
02:27:08,000 --> 02:27:12,000
Yeah, and I think you'll be happy with the sales tax revenue because.

1195
02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:18,000
More than half of what we're proposing to remove is generating exactly zero sales tax dollars today.

1196
02:27:18,000 --> 02:27:21,000
Excellent thank you.

1197
02:27:21,000 --> 02:27:24,000
All right all my questions council member let's there.

1198
02:27:24,000 --> 02:27:32,000
Thank you thank you just a quick question for our maybe for the developer maybe for our team city.

1199
02:27:32,000 --> 02:27:37,000
Can we do a development agreement before.

1200
02:27:37,000 --> 02:27:49,000
Approving a prescreening for instance let's say tonight we vote and say you know I'm not happy I don't I don't sure I want high right now residential in these four quadrants at this high density.

1201
02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:52,000
I would consider it again.

1202
02:27:52,000 --> 02:28:01,000
And but with very a lot of things worked out et cetera can we turn it down tonight and meanwhile have you work on a potential.

1203
02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:04,000
Development agreement and then bring it back to us.

1204
02:28:04,000 --> 02:28:07,000
When the in a years time or after demonstrated.

1205
02:28:07,000 --> 02:28:10,000
Retail commitments etc. I'm just I'm just playing high.

1206
02:28:11,000 --> 02:28:21,000
Is that possible in council member list or I'll jump in for this one the council is not voting on either a general plan amendment itself or plan today and so.

1207
02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:28,000
So that extent it would be inappropriate actually for them to bring that development agreement for you and because there's nothing to actually agree on.

1208
02:28:28,000 --> 02:28:36,000
It would make sense for them to do it either in conjunction with the actual project because then you're going to see a project which developers going to bring later on.

1209
02:28:36,000 --> 02:28:48,000
The development agreement as well as any amendment plan likely come along with that including the entire project.

1210
02:28:48,000 --> 02:28:53,000
So if I'm understanding if I'm just trying to understand.

1211
02:28:53,000 --> 02:28:55,000
If in this pre screening.

1212
02:28:55,000 --> 02:29:03,000
Let's say we said okay I'll take a little bit of residential in that back section the other other three areas I don't want to right now let's just say.

1213
02:29:03,000 --> 02:29:15,000
I have without a glass at that and that we came to consensus that okay we'll take moderate housing in that debug section whatever I'm just playing.

1214
02:29:15,000 --> 02:29:24,000
Once that if we had agreed to that tonight and technically you could start development agreement and then they could come back in a years time and saying you know we've got this much ironed out.

1215
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:28,000
But we really think we need more housing here and look what's happening retail wise.

1216
02:29:28,000 --> 02:29:42,000
I think that the idea is that tonight all you're saying is that you're willing to consider the possibility of an amendment based on the preliminary plans that they put forward and that they can go forward with that.

1217
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:51,000
At the end of the day there's still going to have to submit future plans which are going to come back with an entire project and so right now you're just getting a cursory view that's why the.

1218
02:29:51,000 --> 02:30:00,000
So if we say yes to this.

1219
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:27,000
All you're saying is that you would consider that so that they have the opportunity to actually bring back an amendment later on. When it comes back later on, you could deny it at that point if that was the council's choosing. So tonight is only for consideration of that option and nothing more.

1220
02:30:27,000 --> 02:30:45,000
And if I can also clarify some of the feedback that the council provided was that there is interest in like a mixed use overlay, right, so that would be something that staff would work with the developer on to ensure that there's flexibility in what can be developed in that area.

1221
02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:52,000
I'm just a little stuck because I think council member list or confused me a little bit.

1222
02:30:52,000 --> 02:31:01,000
I want to make sure that no one's prized by that, right?

1223
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:14,000
I just want to make sure that if that the developer can come back any time and we don't have to wait for a year to pass before going forward with other things, right?

1224
02:31:14,000 --> 02:31:15,000
All right.

1225
02:31:15,000 --> 02:31:19,000
If you approve it tonight, if you deny it, then that it's the year.

1226
02:31:19,000 --> 02:31:27,000
It's a year for pre-screening. That does not preclude the developer from coming back with the project to be clear.

1227
02:31:27,000 --> 02:31:35,000
No, it is a precluder from working on the retail side because it's all make all the commercial stuff, just building units.

1228
02:31:35,000 --> 02:31:47,000
So voting yesterday is really for the developer to work with staff incorporating any changes that we've asked for and it's free to take into consideration, right?

1229
02:31:47,000 --> 02:31:57,000
And then bring back to us a different plan with that would also include a development agreement that we would then be able to vote on.

1230
02:31:57,000 --> 02:31:58,000
Correct.

1231
02:31:58,000 --> 02:31:59,000
Thank you.

1232
02:31:59,000 --> 02:32:00,000
Right.

1233
02:32:00,000 --> 02:32:02,000
He wanted just they wanted to know what did it was.

1234
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:05,000
We were looking forward to how we wanted.

1235
02:32:05,000 --> 02:32:14,000
Well, our vision was so that you could move forward with a plan that hopefully meets our vision as well as a development agreement that kind of gives us some controls.

1236
02:32:14,000 --> 02:32:17,000
Should we change any land residential uses.

1237
02:32:17,000 --> 02:32:19,000
Councilmember Roads.

1238
02:32:20,000 --> 02:32:32,000
Yeah, I remembered one more on Parsley and the wonderful images you showed up there showing the new potential anchor tenant had a parking lot right next to that building and not housing.

1239
02:32:32,000 --> 02:32:34,000
Jammed up right next to it.

1240
02:32:34,000 --> 02:32:35,000
That.

1241
02:32:35,000 --> 02:32:37,000
That parcel.

1242
02:32:37,000 --> 02:32:42,000
I think is is right for other opportunities up there.

1243
02:32:42,000 --> 02:32:55,000
And I think councilmember I all alluded to a potential that makes additional sense for the city to to consider it that that's not housing, but.

1244
02:32:55,000 --> 02:33:00,000
Yeah, I hope to have for instance, we're in need of another one and that would be an.

1245
02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:01,000
I slipped my inexplot.

1246
02:33:01,000 --> 02:33:03,000
So.

1247
02:33:03,000 --> 02:33:06,000
That might be a possibility to work into your plan.

1248
02:33:06,000 --> 02:33:07,000
Okay.

1249
02:33:07,000 --> 02:33:11,000
Thank you.

1250
02:33:11,000 --> 02:33:14,000
I think you're off the hot seat right now.

1251
02:33:14,000 --> 02:33:23,000
If I made just a few seconds, I'd be remiss not to say that obviously we're not disturbing anybody if Macy's eastward to someday disappear.

1252
02:33:23,000 --> 02:33:27,000
We would be disrupting tenant businesses in the back.

1253
02:33:27,000 --> 02:33:29,000
If that was to change use.

1254
02:33:29,000 --> 02:33:34,000
And I just want to let everybody know we'd make a commitment to work with every tenant back there.

1255
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:40,000
We'd love for them to stay at town center, whether that's a relocation, whether that's a new retail building.

1256
02:33:40,000 --> 02:33:46,000
We'll meet with them as often as they would like to, but we'd love to keep our great tenants at town center.

1257
02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:49,000
So we're happy to work with them in any format to retain them.

1258
02:33:49,000 --> 02:33:50,000
All right, thank you very much.

1259
02:33:50,000 --> 02:33:52,000
We appreciate that.

1260
02:33:52,000 --> 02:34:01,000
Come as Blanco, are there any members of the public wishing to be heard on the smatter?

1261
02:34:01,000 --> 02:34:05,000
Yes, Madam Mayor, we do have a few speaker cards.

1262
02:34:05,000 --> 02:34:08,000
I will be calling out three names at a time.

1263
02:34:08,000 --> 02:34:11,000
I don't know who you follow.

1264
02:34:11,000 --> 02:34:17,000
The first speaker is Mike Shaw, then John Lapper, and Jeff.

1265
02:34:17,000 --> 02:34:20,000
Did you do this?

1266
02:34:30,000 --> 02:34:32,000
Twice in one night, aren't we lucky?

1267
02:34:32,000 --> 02:34:33,000
Yes.

1268
02:34:34,000 --> 02:34:36,000
Just lucky lucky.

1269
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:37,000
Thanks for listening.

1270
02:34:37,000 --> 02:34:39,000
Again, I promise I'll be quick this time.

1271
02:34:39,000 --> 02:34:41,000
I won't pull a lister.

1272
02:34:45,000 --> 02:34:47,000
You just got a no vote.

1273
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:54,000
I'm just, I want to put in my two senses.

1274
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:59,000
I'm happy to see a developer interested in that project.

1275
02:34:59,000 --> 02:35:02,000
I mean, for years we've seen it language.

1276
02:35:02,000 --> 02:35:07,000
And I've kind of heard it from him before that if we get too stringent, we're going to chase them away.

1277
02:35:07,000 --> 02:35:19,000
So let's hope that we can all get our wishes in an appropriate line and keep in mind that

1278
02:35:19,000 --> 02:35:27,000
density and all of that there has to be a financial aspect of this that makes it successful.

1279
02:35:28,000 --> 02:35:31,000
So I'm all for him.

1280
02:35:31,000 --> 02:35:35,000
I'm hope that you guys will be on board with there.

1281
02:35:35,000 --> 02:35:37,000
Whatever they come up with too.

1282
02:35:37,000 --> 02:35:38,000
Thanks.

1283
02:35:38,000 --> 02:35:39,000
Thank you.

1284
02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:49,000
John Lapper, see me valiant, round two.

1285
02:35:49,000 --> 02:35:51,000
I assume very thankful for this developer.

1286
02:35:51,000 --> 02:35:56,000
I did sit on a very full presentation at one of the civic organizations in town.

1287
02:35:56,000 --> 02:36:02,000
And that was pretty impressed that this is the company that's going to save our mall.

1288
02:36:02,000 --> 02:36:10,000
I'll keep this brief because, like I said, I'm 100% in favor of the mall being converted to mixed use or residential.

1289
02:36:10,000 --> 02:36:15,000
As the only way to seriously revitalize the senior valley town center mall.

1290
02:36:15,000 --> 02:36:21,000
My question has to do with the request for very high density versus high density.

1291
02:36:21,000 --> 02:36:28,000
I sat on on the thorough presentation by the new mall owners, which talked about townhouses for sale.

1292
02:36:28,000 --> 02:36:33,000
Is that encouraged as people to invest in the property, pride and ownership?

1293
02:36:33,000 --> 02:36:37,000
They mentioned just over 200 townhouses to be built.

1294
02:36:37,000 --> 02:36:46,000
In the agenda 5A staff report, I'm seeing 291 units to 375 units proposed by the developer.

1295
02:36:46,000 --> 02:36:51,000
There are two different between the public relations campaign and what is now being requested.

1296
02:36:51,000 --> 02:36:58,000
Also, of concern with very high density, the state maximum is actually 856 units.

1297
02:36:58,000 --> 02:37:08,000
What safeguards of the city have to prevent the developer from using state laws, especially regarding affordable housing moup holes to approach a very high number of units.

1298
02:37:08,000 --> 02:37:22,000
As with the four story project at Alamo and Tapo streets, the city hands were ultimately tied and forced to accept the developers terms with ultimately only a handful of low income properties.

1299
02:37:22,000 --> 02:37:31,000
Will the housing accountability act AB 2243 and state density bonus laws handcuffed the city council.

1300
02:37:31,000 --> 02:37:47,000
That page made of the staff report states these mace severely limit the ability of the city to impose local control in order to retain retail use and ensure development is compatible with the town centers unique location in the city cell site areas.

1301
02:37:47,000 --> 02:37:53,000
What is preventing the developer from adding apartments at the very high density level.

1302
02:37:53,000 --> 02:38:03,000
With high density designation better serve the community while still giving the developer the ability to build the townhouses for sale.

1303
02:38:03,000 --> 02:38:12,000
As promised, I hope the city that the senior valley city council has good legal council real estate otherwise before moving forward.

1304
02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:26,000
Obviously tonight is really simple just saying hey bring us the plans but I don't know if the very high density or high density is binding tonight, but I see no reason to go above high density for the mall area.

1305
02:38:26,000 --> 02:38:27,000
Thank you very much.

1306
02:38:27,000 --> 02:38:37,000
Good evening.

1307
02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:44,000
Made a mayor distinguished council members I haven't had the pleasure yet but we will very soon welcome.

1308
02:38:44,000 --> 02:38:50,000
So as you know I've been involved with see me valley town center sits its inception in the early part of the 2000s.

1309
02:38:50,000 --> 02:38:59,000
When I was a four city development through the development construction phases and finally came on board as a journal manager in 2010.

1310
02:38:59,000 --> 02:39:11,000
While the two succeeding developers attempted to come to grips with the changing retail landscape and deal with the half mile between the two department stores and an open air center affected by the weather.

1311
02:39:11,000 --> 02:39:20,000
I sincerely believe in my heart of hearts we finally have a partnership that understands what will take to make the shopping center receptive to the community in this decade.

1312
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:25,000
They have consistently met with all of our merchants and solicited ideas and input.

1313
02:39:25,000 --> 02:39:28,000
None of the other developers have ever done that.

1314
02:39:28,000 --> 02:39:33,000
The new developers understand that what the second largest footprint in the city.

1315
02:39:33,000 --> 02:39:41,000
See me valley town center is open to any organization to use what the critical open spaces and spacious parking acreage.

1316
02:39:41,000 --> 02:39:44,000
And we'll allow that in the new plans.

1317
02:39:44,000 --> 02:39:47,000
That is a key item for me.

1318
02:39:47,000 --> 02:39:54,000
In the worst retail climb when I've ever witnessed I have been able to keep the center filled over the last 15 years with many entrepreneurs.

1319
02:39:54,000 --> 02:40:00,000
Some coming from their kitchen tables and in so doing the town center has become a real entrepreneurs haven.

1320
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:04,000
People know different than any of us with the same economic wants and needs.

1321
02:40:04,000 --> 02:40:07,000
The new developers completely understand it.

1322
02:40:07,000 --> 02:40:13,000
I was happy to hear Greg make the comment that anybody who is in the town center now wants to be.

1323
02:40:13,000 --> 02:40:16,000
They'll always be home for them.

1324
02:40:16,000 --> 02:40:26,000
We have a merchants association and it is so dynamic and is unlike any in the world and some of you have attended our meetings and have given awards to our achievers.

1325
02:40:26,000 --> 02:40:31,000
If you haven't figured it out already my heart and soul are completely in the center.

1326
02:40:31,000 --> 02:40:39,000
In it virtually we happily discovered one day that 35 of our stores are owned or co-owned by women who strove for the piece of the American dream.

1327
02:40:39,000 --> 02:40:45,000
The nine national tenants added to that are operated by women and plenty of them have been with us since 2010.

1328
02:40:45,000 --> 02:40:47,000
That's more than half of the center.

1329
02:40:47,000 --> 02:40:49,000
That's important to me.

1330
02:40:49,000 --> 02:40:53,000
That fact was a subject of a shelved acorn article.

1331
02:40:53,000 --> 02:40:56,000
Hopefully they'll resubmit that.

1332
02:40:56,000 --> 02:41:02,000
So in closing a redevelopment CME Valley Town Center will be a nice reward for all of their hard work and sacrifices.

1333
02:41:02,000 --> 02:41:08,000
I encourage a city council in the community to continue to work with these developers to get the best use out of the 45.

1334
02:41:08,000 --> 02:41:11,000
In the second largest tax base in the city.

1335
02:41:11,000 --> 02:41:14,000
Thank you so much for your effort.

1336
02:41:14,000 --> 02:41:22,000
Thank you.

1337
02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:40,000
Alpha Elimini followed by Ryan Pram and an Angie Kurt.

1338
02:41:40,000 --> 02:41:41,000
Ryan Pram?

1339
02:41:45,000 --> 02:42:09,000
I'm supportive of the idea of having housing in the town center especially if it's affordable because it creates a nice community where you don't have to like shop online or have to go drive somewhere you can just walk to the store and you can go to social areas and

1340
02:42:09,000 --> 02:42:15,000
create your own little sustainable community and also prevents like suburban sprawl which you'll see.

1341
02:42:15,000 --> 02:42:21,000
In other places in the city valley where we're tearing down land to build up new houses that are in the middle of nowhere.

1342
02:42:21,000 --> 02:42:24,000
They have to go all kinds of places.

1343
02:42:24,000 --> 02:42:30,000
So having something already in quite literally that town center is a good idea.

1344
02:42:30,000 --> 02:42:33,000
I have a lot of concerns there.

1345
02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:38,000
The number 45% of the retail areas being taken down.

1346
02:42:38,000 --> 02:42:40,000
I feel like that's too high.

1347
02:42:40,000 --> 02:42:48,000
I feel like in that like map are still be just takes out that whole back end of the.

1348
02:42:48,000 --> 02:42:59,000
Of the mall and so basically it just becomes like a strip mall with like two townhouses centers at the end of it and I don't really like the idea of that.

1349
02:43:00,000 --> 02:43:11,000
So, and I'm also afraid that this is a slippery slope where I like yes sure this is like the rough draft plan but then it goes through and then goes through and then goes through and that's what we end up seeing.

1350
02:43:11,000 --> 02:43:17,000
Again, I love the idea of having the having mixed use areas.

1351
02:43:17,000 --> 02:43:22,000
But I don't like this current plan that's all I will say.

1352
02:43:22,000 --> 02:43:24,000
Thank you.

1353
02:43:24,000 --> 02:43:39,000
John Southwick 7 and Ian Schatz.

1354
02:43:39,000 --> 02:43:45,000
John Southwick.

1355
02:43:45,000 --> 02:43:48,000
No.

1356
02:43:49,000 --> 02:43:53,000
Seven.

1357
02:43:53,000 --> 02:43:57,000
Ian.

1358
02:43:57,000 --> 02:44:00,000
Then Greg Hall.

1359
02:44:00,000 --> 02:44:05,000
And Todd Huber.

1360
02:44:05,000 --> 02:44:07,000
Hello.

1361
02:44:07,000 --> 02:44:08,000
Okay.

1362
02:44:08,000 --> 02:44:12,000
Hi, so my name is Ian and I grew up here.

1363
02:44:12,000 --> 02:44:16,000
I have lived in the same in see me pretty much my entire life.

1364
02:44:16,000 --> 02:44:20,000
And I am strongly in support of redevelopment at the mall.

1365
02:44:20,000 --> 02:44:32,000
It's something that I've actually been interested in for a long time as long as I've been interested in urban planning and so there are a few different.

1366
02:44:32,000 --> 02:44:38,000
Points I'd like to touch upon regarding that first is the size of the parking lot itself.

1367
02:44:38,000 --> 02:45:00,000
I know a lot of people are worried about being able to find parking but I can say from having been there at multiple different very well like a lot of people went to them events, including the street fair, the circus and see me valid is that even at times when large portions of that.

1368
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:09,000
That parking lot are taken up by fairgrounds, a circus, rides, otherwise there's still ample parking.

1369
02:45:09,000 --> 02:45:17,000
I've never had the park offsite even when it's been full and the parking lot has been partially used.

1370
02:45:17,000 --> 02:45:27,000
So on that point, I think that utilizing areas that are currently parking lots as was demonstrated within the map

1371
02:45:27,000 --> 02:45:34,000
would be a very effective way to increase the housing supply in the city.

1372
02:45:34,000 --> 02:45:41,000
Moving on from that, I think that it's obvious to everybody here who's been in Zemi for any length of time,

1373
02:45:41,000 --> 02:45:47,000
that the way that the mall has been run up until this point has not been effective.

1374
02:45:47,000 --> 02:46:01,000
And I don't see how putting more people closer to it would be worse, especially if a significant portion of the area, like the storefronts are just empty.

1375
02:46:01,000 --> 02:46:12,000
What's the point in having empty storefronts and continuing the way that it is, it's not healthy business strategy and it's not healthy for the city.

1376
02:46:12,000 --> 02:46:24,000
The nearest housing is already at the higher densities in the the city allows and it hasn't caused any issues for anyone and the mall itself is physically separated from

1377
02:46:24,000 --> 02:46:28,000
pretty much any other housing except for the avalanopartments.

1378
02:46:28,000 --> 02:46:32,000
It's essentially just next to the freeway.

1379
02:46:32,000 --> 02:46:51,000
Going into the on from that, the mall itself would be really an excellent place to have more housing because it serves as the stop for two Ventura County Transit Commission lines that take people all across the county as well as one of the city's bus services that takes people.

1380
02:46:51,000 --> 02:47:04,000
Not only in the city, but also to more part college and chats worth metro links station, so having more people there would help all three of those transit services at increased ridership.

1381
02:47:04,000 --> 02:47:15,000
Just a few days ago actually, I think it was four days ago, the Orange County Register found that it's required in Orange County obviously this isn't seen me, but.

1382
02:47:15,000 --> 02:47:25,000
There's a point that I'm getting at in Orange County, you need three hundred and seventy three thousand two hundred dollars if income to be able to buy a home.

1383
02:47:25,000 --> 02:47:33,000
The median income in see me Valley in 2022, I just got this off like a media is a hundred and twelve thousand hundred and forty four dollars.

1384
02:47:33,000 --> 02:47:40,000
I think we can all hear that there's a pretty big difference between those two numbers and.

1385
02:47:41,000 --> 02:48:07,000
If anyone has been to Orange County, which I'm sure probably everyone here has been they have followed suburban planning styles throughout that entire county and if we follow those same exact styles here all we're going to do is make it harder and harder for people to be able to afford housing just this has happened in Orange County.

1386
02:48:08,000 --> 02:48:21,000
There are a growing number of people who want to live in places where they can walk to the destinations that they need to get to instead of needing to drive it makes it so you can see friendly faces instead of just seeing.

1387
02:48:21,000 --> 02:48:33,000
There's a big machine in front of you that's cutting between different cars you don't you don't have any personal connection with the people around you when you're driving you do when you're walking around.

1388
02:48:33,000 --> 02:48:37,000
And this would create an opportunity for that here in the city.

1389
02:48:37,000 --> 02:48:49,000
I also don't really stop in stores that often that you're passing by when you are driving unless you were already planning on going there but if anyone here's gone to Main Street in Ventura.

1390
02:48:49,000 --> 02:48:58,000
And you walk down there you're not just walking down the street and then that's it you could stop you looking the stores and you buy things and you see what there is.

1391
02:48:59,000 --> 02:49:16,000
Just my last point here is that see me has built itself as a good place to start a family and a good place to raise children and if it's not affordable for young families to come here and start a family if they can't find a home.

1392
02:49:16,000 --> 02:49:37,000
How is this going to continue to meet that promise I don't believe it well so I support the development and I actually support it at the highest densities.

1393
02:49:37,000 --> 02:49:42,000
Great call.

1394
02:49:42,000 --> 02:49:51,000
Todd Huber.

1395
02:49:51,000 --> 02:49:54,000
Good evening city council mayor how you guys doing tonight.

1396
02:49:54,000 --> 02:50:00,000
I'm Todd Huber I'm a see me valley guy I've lived here for 56 years I grew up here.

1397
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:10,000
My dad my father in law was the city manager here for almost 20 years my dad was a mayor for almost 10 years and I'm really proud of I'm really proud of being from see me valley.

1398
02:50:10,000 --> 02:50:19,000
I currently in the director of the international escape wording hall of fame I want to put the emphasis on international because we bring people from all over the globe to the see me valley town center.

1399
02:50:19,000 --> 02:50:25,000
Sadly I'm in the spot that's slated for demolition but it was cool to hear the owner say that they're going to work with us.

1400
02:50:25,000 --> 02:50:33,000
But I just wanted to come here tonight to support the project the mall can be better for sure I love it up there but it definitely lots of room for improvement.

1401
02:50:33,000 --> 02:50:38,000
But I just wanted to just speak on behalf of the two great museums that are in the area that are going to be torn down.

1402
02:50:38,000 --> 02:50:47,000
Not only is the skateboarding hall of fame my museum a nonprofit but I'm next door or two or down from the military museum and they're a very unique place.

1403
02:50:47,000 --> 02:50:57,000
We were recently called fun and quirky by 805 magazine and see me valley needs more of anything it's fun and quirky so hopefully the new owners will work with us as an on profit.

1404
02:50:57,000 --> 02:51:04,000
They've been really good to so far but I see a big investment here and it kind of worries me about the future of me being able to stay there.

1405
02:51:04,000 --> 02:51:14,000
I also want to say in closing that LA is going to be the host of the Olympics in 2028 because we're an international escape wording museum and skateboarding is now one of the most popular events in the Olympics.

1406
02:51:15,000 --> 02:51:26,000
The international spotlight is going to be on us and I sure hope it's that to see me like town center and not in the valley or in LA where they'd like us to be so hope you guys will put this project thank you.

1407
02:51:27,000 --> 02:51:47,000
And Todd they might say you're your fun and quirky but spectrums been advertising you too I've been hearing that a few days so congrats on you there you got your global on that so we also had cards that with people that did not wish to speak we had 20 cards in support of.

1408
02:51:47,000 --> 02:51:51,000
I thought you were down I'm sorry no we have three more okay we have three more sorry.

1409
02:51:51,000 --> 02:51:57,000
The next yeah Bob Cottle Jeff Peterson and then Scott Hanson.

1410
02:52:07,000 --> 02:52:16,000
Hello Mayor Cavanagh members of the council I'm Bob Cottle I live in Cemi Valley for a long time I won't say how long.

1411
02:52:16,000 --> 02:52:34,000
I am supportive of the mall but not supportive of high density and very high density development with the mall and there's several reasons for that for that one is that.

1412
02:52:34,000 --> 02:52:47,000
It's going to destroy the ability of the city to ever have a large commercial development that's the only place that's left.

1413
02:52:48,000 --> 02:52:55,000
Now I do feel for the owner but they did buy the mall knowing what condition it was that.

1414
02:52:56,000 --> 02:53:02,000
I think that it's a good idea to develop the mall further.

1415
02:53:02,000 --> 02:53:14,000
A great idea they have a sporting good store I strongly recommend they pursue development that relates to.

1416
02:53:14,000 --> 02:53:23,000
Recreational activities we don't have very many of those in town like a David Busters like the truckie cheese that moved out.

1417
02:53:24,000 --> 02:53:37,000
Different things that would bring people into the mall and create activities and also use the facilities there are now the restaurant the movie theater.

1418
02:53:37,000 --> 02:54:06,000
The other issue that I have with the mall or with the development proposal is that you start putting a lot of high density development outside the valley floor which is really direct contradiction with the German policies that we have now and we also want to try to at least a city should be trying to place high density development.

1419
02:54:07,000 --> 02:54:21,000
Near transit facilities that it would be the metropolitan area that has been a little bit ignored as a late but hopefully that will be something you want to consider and then not to just a future.

1420
02:54:21,000 --> 02:54:29,000
I think one of the things that the council should really think about is where do we want.

1421
02:54:29,000 --> 02:54:45,000
I don't think this is the best location it's just I feel like we're trying to bail out a developer that bought a.

1422
02:54:46,000 --> 02:55:03,000
property that was underperforming but I think that things that can be done on the developer side to improve that property and I think we should give it a chance give the new owner a chance to bring in.

1423
02:55:03,000 --> 02:55:13,000
Some stores and activities and see if they can't revitalize it because once you put the multifamily homes in their aunt.

1424
02:55:13,000 --> 02:55:21,000
You're not going to change it and it's not going to be a town center anymore it's going to be a neighborhood shopping center I'll be at a large neighbor shopping center.

1425
02:55:21,000 --> 02:55:33,000
It's just going to be another neighborhood shopping center with a grocery store and some shops and a theater is that what we really want is that what we envision for the town center.

1426
02:55:33,000 --> 02:55:38,000
I don't think so another point on the arena.

1427
02:55:38,000 --> 02:55:43,000
The more development the city does for residential.

1428
02:55:43,000 --> 02:55:54,000
Stacks God looks at that says hmm well they could probably do some more what we up there arena a little bit give them a little more.

1429
02:55:54,000 --> 02:56:02,000
So that's it.

1430
02:56:02,000 --> 02:56:16,000
I'm a nice here right out that but I think that in the long run I'm looking holistically about that for the community not just this one project site and I think the council needs to.

1431
02:56:16,000 --> 02:56:22,000
Take a step back and say hey is this the best thing for the city.

1432
02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:24,000
Thank you.

1433
02:56:35,000 --> 02:56:45,000
Hi my name's Jeff Patterson I've been a resident of see me since 69 so I don't know what's that 55 56 years.

1434
02:56:45,000 --> 02:56:58,000
I've seen quite a bit change over the years it's kind of fun to tell people how things used to be and just look at there's stairs back.

1435
02:56:58,000 --> 02:57:08,000
Thank you for all the time that you put in to make the city a better place that's the only way it gets to be a better place is through your efforts.

1436
02:57:08,000 --> 02:57:17,000
And everybody's appreciative of your consideration and way in all the aspects that could be involved in any development.

1437
02:57:17,000 --> 02:57:22,000
The downside I see with this is they kind of went for a home run.

1438
02:57:22,000 --> 02:57:37,000
You said well let's see if everybody's okay with very high density and I'm not sure that that's what we really want once once we move things forward as concerns event expressed.

1439
02:57:37,000 --> 02:57:43,000
Be tends to be out of our hands and then we're stuck with whatever we get.

1440
02:57:43,000 --> 02:58:00,000
I agree with those that have been concerned that the housing portion will be done and then the mall improvement portion might may lag and there needs to be a cohesive effort to make sure that it's carried out with some kind of vision.

1441
02:58:00,000 --> 02:58:17,000
I do see the need for having some development in a living type aspect there that I don't think very high density or perhaps even high density is is the way to go but you know it's like.

1442
02:58:17,000 --> 02:58:26,000
Rocky proposed some sort of new new term that allows 24 units per acre or whatever it is.

1443
02:58:26,000 --> 02:58:36,000
One of my other observations is that I do get around town some and I've noticed that the land to the north of the Avalan apartments is already graded out like it's.

1444
02:58:36,000 --> 02:58:49,000
Intended to be developed for apartments and so that hasn't been brought up or thought of at this time but as the city continues to fill out.

1445
02:58:49,000 --> 02:58:57,000
I I foresee that that's the possibility that there could be more apartments above Avalan and then you've got an even.

1446
02:58:57,000 --> 02:59:05,000
Greater dense area all in one spot and that's going to create problems with traffic and.

1447
02:59:06,000 --> 02:59:11,000
sewer and all the other things that going to make in a city operational.

1448
02:59:11,000 --> 02:59:23,000
So those are my concerns that as as proposed I I'm not really in I'd tell them to come back with something more concrete rather than just floating a trial alone and see if we salute.

1449
02:59:23,000 --> 02:59:25,000
Thank you.

1450
02:59:36,000 --> 02:59:38,000
Good evening Mayor.

1451
02:59:38,000 --> 02:59:47,000
Deity Council members just I have a couple things to say Scott Hanson lifetime resident 62 years I'm another nice a her but.

1452
02:59:47,000 --> 02:59:59,000
You know eventually everything's going to be whatever happens is going to happen if we try to stop it it's going to happen from the higher up so I won't.

1453
02:59:59,000 --> 03:00:00,000
Bring that up.

1454
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:11,000
I've yet to see building more apartments, bring the cost of housing down. Doesn't happen. Nobody's going to decrease the rent on apartments when they go up.

1455
03:00:11,000 --> 03:00:29,000
So that's that's the one thing on that. And the other thing is the the mall project also may be a good opportunity for the city council to look into proposing a food truck vending court be incorporated into it.

1456
03:00:29,000 --> 03:00:44,000
Since since since a lot of the residents of semi valley seemed to appreciate that, maybe that might be an option to include in that project. Thank you.

1457
03:00:48,000 --> 03:00:54,000
I'm going to confirm Ms. Bunko, we're all done with our speakers. Yes, Madam Mayor, that was the last one.

1458
03:00:54,000 --> 03:00:55,000
All right. Thank you.

1459
03:00:55,000 --> 03:01:04,000
We do have additional cards that chose not to speak. We have 23 people in support and two opposed.

1460
03:01:04,000 --> 03:01:06,000
You don't have a car van.

1461
03:01:06,000 --> 03:01:10,000
We have for item six. We still have public comments.

1462
03:01:10,000 --> 03:01:16,000
We still have public comments for item six. Did you mean to be in this open hearing?

1463
03:01:16,000 --> 03:01:20,000
You'll need to complete. Do you have a card completed?

1464
03:01:20,000 --> 03:01:23,000
What is your name sir?

1465
03:01:26,000 --> 03:01:33,000
Ms. Ortiz, why don't you come up and go ahead and start and they'll find your card and if we don't have it.

1466
03:01:33,000 --> 03:01:37,000
We just had we said a blue instead of a yellow one. Come on. If you're fine.

1467
03:01:37,000 --> 03:01:41,000
We start that time because I'm a fire of the whole distance.

1468
03:01:41,000 --> 03:01:42,000
We start that.

1469
03:01:42,000 --> 03:01:44,000
No, you only get that.

1470
03:01:44,000 --> 03:01:45,000
No.

1471
03:01:45,000 --> 03:01:46,000
Thank you.

1472
03:01:46,000 --> 03:01:48,000
Thank you.

1473
03:01:48,000 --> 03:01:51,000
Thank you for the opportunity to be here this evening.

1474
03:01:52,000 --> 03:01:54,000
You know, I've been here to see me valley.

1475
03:01:54,000 --> 03:01:55,000
Gosh.

1476
03:01:55,000 --> 03:02:02,000
For many years since the 1969 our family moved here and seen a lot of development here.

1477
03:02:02,000 --> 03:02:16,000
And I'm very thankful and fortunate that, you know, being here at the mall at the town center has been a blessing to us and our community and our youth that we actually get off the streets and try to change our lives and give them more of

1478
03:02:16,000 --> 03:02:20,000
that, and more that.

1479
03:02:20,000 --> 03:02:24,000
But.

1480
03:02:24,000 --> 03:02:28,000
I know we have to remember Sarah off the third floor, board member here on staff here with them.

1481
03:02:28,000 --> 03:02:33,000
And I just would hopefully that we can be able to extend, what they're seeing.

1482
03:02:33,000 --> 03:02:37,000
I'm sure there is going to be a little bounce back and forth.

1483
03:02:37,000 --> 03:02:39,000
But,

1484
03:02:39,000 --> 03:02:41,000
Well, here for the long fight in and hope we did if I feed them to you.

1485
03:02:41,000 --> 03:02:44,840
what they can do to regenerate them all and to make it better, you know, as well.

1486
03:02:44,840 --> 03:02:47,120
You know, we were able to put on some shows here.

1487
03:02:47,120 --> 03:02:49,480
If y'all know, we've put on some boxing shows.

1488
03:02:49,480 --> 03:02:52,040
We brought world champions out here to see me valley.

1489
03:02:52,040 --> 03:02:53,840
I had to make Ryan after his decision.

1490
03:02:53,840 --> 03:02:56,800
I had, you know, as Mr. Gambino, a lot of it,

1491
03:02:56,800 --> 03:03:02,520
boobie starts come out and we bring those people here just to show who has seen me

1492
03:03:02,520 --> 03:03:05,840
valley and the shows we put on, we have people from all over the world coming out as well,

1493
03:03:05,840 --> 03:03:10,560
too, to fight on our cards and stuff, and we're looking to do more shows and be

1494
03:03:10,560 --> 03:03:15,040
able to bring more people to see me valley and make it water.

1495
03:03:15,040 --> 03:03:18,680
I've seen me valley and the talent center itself.

1496
03:03:18,680 --> 03:03:20,920
And now we actually have one more level of event coming up.

1497
03:03:20,920 --> 03:03:25,520
It's going to be our little Lucho Libre show, little basketball thing here, okay.

1498
03:03:25,520 --> 03:03:30,800
Now we have a Lucho Libre show going on and it's something that the talent center, I'm a pops, you

1499
03:03:30,800 --> 03:03:37,800
know, establishment, and to be able to have what we have today, it's a dream, it's a reality,

1500
03:03:37,800 --> 03:03:39,800
and I just want to see, thanks to the talent center.

1501
03:03:39,800 --> 03:03:43,680
Thank you guys for having us and appreciate you all at the board as well.

1502
03:03:43,680 --> 03:03:44,680
Have a blessed night.

1503
03:03:44,680 --> 03:03:45,680
Thank you so much.

1504
03:03:45,680 --> 03:03:46,680
Thank you.

1505
03:03:46,680 --> 03:04:02,200
Is there anyone else who submitted a blue card to speak on this item?

1506
03:04:02,200 --> 03:04:05,400
No, we will go back to the open public comments.

1507
03:04:05,400 --> 03:04:06,400
Thank you.

1508
03:04:06,400 --> 03:04:07,400
Okay.

1509
03:04:07,400 --> 03:04:08,400
So we're done now?

1510
03:04:08,400 --> 03:04:09,400
Yes.

1511
03:04:09,400 --> 03:04:10,400
Okay.

1512
03:04:10,400 --> 03:04:11,400
There are times of charm.

1513
03:04:11,400 --> 03:04:16,520
23 cards in support and two were opposed in addition to all the speakers.

1514
03:04:16,520 --> 03:04:21,240
So at this time, does staff desire to respond to any comments or issues raised?

1515
03:04:21,240 --> 03:04:27,040
I did, Mayor Kavanaugh, Mr. Lapper brought up a one-term about the Housing Accountability Act.

1516
03:04:27,040 --> 03:04:31,400
And that's the state law, similar to what happened at tap on Alamo, where the general plan

1517
03:04:31,400 --> 03:04:37,040
and the zoning designation were in place to mandate multi-family residential development.

1518
03:04:37,040 --> 03:04:41,840
That's why the City Council, for example, in that project, could not say no.

1519
03:04:41,840 --> 03:04:43,840
This is a different type of situation.

1520
03:04:43,840 --> 03:04:49,040
This, the general plan and the zoning don't match up with what's being conceived of.

1521
03:04:49,040 --> 03:04:53,520
So if and when this project were to come back to the City Council, the City Council could

1522
03:04:53,520 --> 03:04:54,520
say no.

1523
03:04:54,520 --> 03:04:55,520
You could deny it.

1524
03:04:55,520 --> 03:04:59,120
And that's because it's not protected by the Housing Accountability Act.

1525
03:04:59,120 --> 03:05:03,400
A development agreement to answer the other item was a way to put a cap on the number of units.

1526
03:05:03,400 --> 03:05:08,400
And so that is a tool in our toolbox, if we choose to explore it and at the gentleman over here,

1527
03:05:08,400 --> 03:05:13,720
I think Mr. Peterson, you discuss the land above to the north of Avalan apartments.

1528
03:05:13,720 --> 03:05:18,960
That's the North Cain's development and that's a development proposal that will likely be presented

1529
03:05:18,960 --> 03:05:24,960
to the City Council in the near future proposal for a couple hundred single-family homes,

1530
03:05:24,960 --> 03:05:28,600
as well as the senior family senior living component as well.

1531
03:05:28,600 --> 03:05:33,280
So that's area is currently outside the city limits, requires an annexation.

1532
03:05:33,280 --> 03:05:39,280
But there is the potential for new residential development and close proximity to this location.

1533
03:05:39,280 --> 03:05:40,280
Thank you.

1534
03:05:40,280 --> 03:05:42,280
Mr. Peterson.

1535
03:05:42,280 --> 03:05:43,280
Okay.

1536
03:05:43,280 --> 03:05:44,280
We're all good.

1537
03:05:44,280 --> 03:05:46,280
Thank you.

1538
03:05:46,280 --> 03:05:52,280
Does the applicant have any desire to respond to the staff?

1539
03:05:52,280 --> 03:05:54,280
Just as comments.

1540
03:05:54,280 --> 03:05:58,280
Okay.

1541
03:05:58,280 --> 03:05:59,280
Perfect.

1542
03:05:59,280 --> 03:06:00,280
Thank you very much.

1543
03:06:00,280 --> 03:06:02,280
Okay.

1544
03:06:02,280 --> 03:06:06,280
This hearing is now closed.

1545
03:06:06,280 --> 03:06:13,280
Any further comments or questions from City Council members?

1546
03:06:13,280 --> 03:06:14,280
Seeing none.

1547
03:06:14,280 --> 03:06:15,280
Sorry.

1548
03:06:15,280 --> 03:06:16,280
Councilmember Lister?

1549
03:06:16,280 --> 03:06:21,280
Well, I guess I want to understand what the next steps are here tonight.

1550
03:06:21,280 --> 03:06:24,280
Is it?

1551
03:06:24,280 --> 03:06:29,280
I mean, I definitely have some comments on what my thoughts about going forward.

1552
03:06:29,280 --> 03:06:34,280
We could also then choose to modify if we wanted to as well.

1553
03:06:34,280 --> 03:06:35,280
Correct?

1554
03:06:35,280 --> 03:06:37,280
What would I say modify the pre-screening for instance?

1555
03:06:37,280 --> 03:06:38,280
Could is it yes or no?

1556
03:06:38,280 --> 03:06:39,280
Yes.

1557
03:06:39,280 --> 03:06:40,280
Yes or no.

1558
03:06:40,280 --> 03:06:45,280
So we can't say yes on two areas but not on correct.

1559
03:06:45,280 --> 03:06:47,280
You can say yes.

1560
03:06:47,280 --> 03:06:50,280
The council votes to move this forward.

1561
03:06:50,280 --> 03:06:54,280
Incorporate in the feedback that the council has provided to the developer.

1562
03:06:54,280 --> 03:06:55,280
Or you can say no.

1563
03:06:55,280 --> 03:06:57,280
We don't want to do anything.

1564
03:06:57,280 --> 03:07:00,280
But the yes does not guarantee anything either.

1565
03:07:00,280 --> 03:07:01,280
And we can't say yes.

1566
03:07:01,280 --> 03:07:02,280
Okay.

1567
03:07:02,280 --> 03:07:03,280
With parcel.

1568
03:07:03,280 --> 03:07:04,280
But not okay.

1569
03:07:04,280 --> 03:07:05,280
Not at this time.

1570
03:07:05,280 --> 03:07:06,280
Okay.

1571
03:07:06,280 --> 03:07:07,280
Okay.

1572
03:07:07,280 --> 03:07:08,280
All right.

1573
03:07:08,280 --> 03:07:10,280
Then I would like to make a couple comments.

1574
03:07:10,280 --> 03:07:12,280
But if that's all right.

1575
03:07:12,280 --> 03:07:13,280
Yes.

1576
03:07:13,280 --> 03:07:14,280
You have time to make comments.

1577
03:07:14,280 --> 03:07:15,280
Thank you.

1578
03:07:15,280 --> 03:07:18,280
I just wanted to explain.

1579
03:07:18,280 --> 03:07:20,280
I think where my thoughts going to go.

1580
03:07:20,280 --> 03:07:24,280
I'd very much appreciate my conversation with stress this weekend.

1581
03:07:24,280 --> 03:07:29,280
I just came to appreciate that this is the only land designated and available for regional commerce and city valley.

1582
03:07:29,280 --> 03:07:32,280
There is no other location.

1583
03:07:32,280 --> 03:07:35,280
If we bring in residential.

1584
03:07:35,280 --> 03:07:37,280
And by the way, I like a small portion of residential.

1585
03:07:37,280 --> 03:07:40,280
But if we do, we cannot go back.

1586
03:07:40,280 --> 03:07:44,280
We have other commercial mixed use areas that we could use.

1587
03:07:44,280 --> 03:07:46,280
We've got this in visual and vision see me quarter.

1588
03:07:46,280 --> 03:07:50,280
We've got that huge area on LA Avenue that was from mixed use.

1589
03:07:50,280 --> 03:07:52,280
We've got tapestry quarter, et cetera.

1590
03:07:52,280 --> 03:07:58,280
We have areas that are designated for exactly really what they want to do in terms of mixed use.

1591
03:07:58,280 --> 03:08:01,280
So I am concerned if we go forward.

1592
03:08:01,280 --> 03:08:04,280
As it is, as structured.

1593
03:08:04,280 --> 03:08:07,280
We cannot step backwards.

1594
03:08:07,280 --> 03:08:10,280
I did attend the mall marketing meeting last Thursday.

1595
03:08:10,280 --> 03:08:15,280
And I appreciate the question that was asked by Todd Huber, who is here.

1596
03:08:15,280 --> 03:08:16,280
Maybe left.

1597
03:08:16,280 --> 03:08:19,280
He asked the question, what about the housing behind the mall?

1598
03:08:19,280 --> 03:08:20,280
I referenced it.

1599
03:08:20,280 --> 03:08:24,280
I really think the mall could do something to the town center.

1600
03:08:24,280 --> 03:08:26,280
Excuse me, it's not a mall, it's a town center.

1601
03:08:26,280 --> 03:08:28,280
They got to use the correct vernacular.

1602
03:08:28,280 --> 03:08:40,280
I do think very much that something could be done to reach out to residents that are already in the area to capitalize on them.

1603
03:08:40,280 --> 03:08:46,280
I'm concerned though that that's why I want the developers to start.

1604
03:08:46,280 --> 03:08:51,280
And then come back and say let's look at residential to supplement what we're doing.

1605
03:08:51,280 --> 03:09:01,280
But I really want this to be a jewel for the entire city and surrounding area, not a beautiful neighborhood shopping area.

1606
03:09:01,280 --> 03:09:05,280
There are some amazing merchants in that mall.

1607
03:09:05,280 --> 03:09:08,280
Many of them are here tonight and you deserve the best.

1608
03:09:08,280 --> 03:09:10,280
You deserve something wonderful.

1609
03:09:10,280 --> 03:09:15,280
And I believe that the 22 cards are in support because they want them all revitalized.

1610
03:09:15,280 --> 03:09:17,280
They don't want to lose their spot.

1611
03:09:17,280 --> 03:09:23,280
They don't want to necessarily lose 45% of the mall's commercial, which is what's being proposed.

1612
03:09:23,280 --> 03:09:29,280
But of course, they want more customers and more activity and they know that still is a good owner.

1613
03:09:29,280 --> 03:09:33,280
And I believe that you are good owners and we'll do great things.

1614
03:09:33,280 --> 03:09:38,280
So I know that we've already met arena numbers.

1615
03:09:38,280 --> 03:09:43,280
There's a reason why we never plan for housing in previous iterations.

1616
03:09:43,280 --> 03:09:49,280
And so I think for that reason, at least for me, I'm going to vote against housing.

1617
03:09:49,280 --> 03:09:51,280
I'm not opposed to it.

1618
03:09:51,280 --> 03:09:56,280
But I'm just concerned myself with going forward the way it is constituted right now.

1619
03:09:56,280 --> 03:10:01,280
And I'd love to have further conversations and have them come back and discuss after we've spent more time.

1620
03:10:01,280 --> 03:10:03,280
So I just want to share that.

1621
03:10:03,280 --> 03:10:05,280
And if I can just say councilmember.

1622
03:10:05,280 --> 03:10:12,280
Again, if the council decides to move this forward, the developer and staff would work together to incorporate those comments.

1623
03:10:12,280 --> 03:10:13,280
And that feedback.

1624
03:10:13,280 --> 03:10:15,280
But the council has provided tonight.

1625
03:10:15,280 --> 03:10:21,280
And then again, if the council says this can move forward for a formal application.

1626
03:10:21,280 --> 03:10:27,280
Then when that formal application comes back and if that is not reflective of what this council has directed.

1627
03:10:27,280 --> 03:10:33,280
That it wants to see the council can also deny it at that time as well.

1628
03:10:33,280 --> 03:10:38,280
Any other comments?

1629
03:10:38,280 --> 03:10:39,280
Questions?

1630
03:10:39,280 --> 03:10:46,280
I will now entertain a motion.

1631
03:10:46,280 --> 03:10:56,280
There's a motion.

1632
03:10:56,280 --> 03:11:07,280
There's a motion on the last page.

1633
03:11:07,280 --> 03:11:09,280
I'll make the motion.

1634
03:11:09,280 --> 03:11:11,280
Now that I found it.

1635
03:11:12,280 --> 03:11:16,280
I moved to authorize GPPS-2025-001.

1636
03:11:16,280 --> 03:11:25,280
For further processing, it's a formal general planning amendment with any additional directives discussed in the report in public hearing.

1637
03:11:25,280 --> 03:11:30,280
It's correct one.

1638
03:11:30,280 --> 03:11:31,280
Second.

1639
03:11:31,280 --> 03:11:32,280
Thank you.

1640
03:11:32,280 --> 03:11:37,280
Cover the vote.

1641
03:11:37,280 --> 03:11:43,280
The motion passes with councilmember.

1642
03:11:43,280 --> 03:11:48,280
Let's do a voting.

1643
03:11:48,280 --> 03:11:49,280
Thank you.

1644
03:11:49,280 --> 03:11:51,280
We can now move to the next item.

1645
03:11:51,280 --> 03:11:52,280
Madam Mayor.

1646
03:11:52,280 --> 03:11:55,280
Members of City Council next on the agenda is item six.

1647
03:11:55,280 --> 03:11:56,280
Public statements.

1648
03:11:56,280 --> 03:11:58,280
During this agenda, it says the council were here.

1649
03:11:58,280 --> 03:12:01,280
Public statements from persons who had previously submitted speaker cards.

1650
03:12:01,280 --> 03:12:04,280
And did not speak under agenda item number four.

1651
03:12:04,280 --> 03:12:05,280
It's because we call them.

1652
03:12:05,280 --> 03:12:07,280
The order that covers submitted.

1653
03:12:07,280 --> 03:12:11,280
Just speak for this public statements item six for a period of number three minutes each.

1654
03:12:11,280 --> 03:12:18,280
Persons addressing the city council are requested to state their name for the other community residents for the record.

1655
03:12:18,280 --> 03:12:22,280
I will call three speakers at a time.

1656
03:12:22,280 --> 03:12:27,280
So you will know who you follow.

1657
03:12:28,280 --> 03:12:29,280
Tracy.

1658
03:12:29,280 --> 03:12:30,280
Connette.

1659
03:12:30,280 --> 03:12:33,280
Dawn Cost Grove.

1660
03:12:33,280 --> 03:12:37,280
And the Natalie Hilton.

1661
03:12:37,280 --> 03:12:46,280
Good evening.

1662
03:12:46,280 --> 03:12:47,280
Good evening.

1663
03:12:47,280 --> 03:12:49,280
Mayor Kavanaugh and City Council.

1664
03:12:49,280 --> 03:12:54,280
I want to thank you for your past support in granting our grant request.

1665
03:12:54,280 --> 03:13:04,280
And that is now made you a partner with us in fighting food insecurity in this community.

1666
03:13:04,280 --> 03:13:09,280
This grant, along with food share, retail store donations and private contributions.

1667
03:13:09,280 --> 03:13:17,280
And sure we can continue to offer a wide variety of healthy choices for our almost 300 families who come every single week.

1668
03:13:17,280 --> 03:13:22,280
We serve families, seniors, children and anybody else that that need some food.

1669
03:13:22,280 --> 03:13:26,280
For over five years now we have been helping families, seniors and children.

1670
03:13:26,280 --> 03:13:30,280
My neighbors and your neighbors with food insecurity.

1671
03:13:30,280 --> 03:13:32,280
They thank you and so do we.

1672
03:13:32,280 --> 03:13:40,280
Thank you.

1673
03:13:40,280 --> 03:13:45,280
Dawn Cost Grove.

1674
03:13:45,280 --> 03:14:00,280
Natalie Hilton.

1675
03:14:00,280 --> 03:14:01,280
Good evening.

1676
03:14:01,280 --> 03:14:05,280
Thank you for this opportunity to share about many mansions community projects grant.

1677
03:14:05,280 --> 03:14:07,280
I grew up in the city of CME Valley.

1678
03:14:07,280 --> 03:14:11,280
And I'm very proud to work for an organization that supports CME Valley residents.

1679
03:14:11,280 --> 03:14:19,280
Since 1979, many mansions has provided housing and services for economically disadvantaged vulnerable community members.

1680
03:14:19,280 --> 03:14:24,280
As part of our mission, we believe the solution to ending homelessness goes beyond providing housing.

1681
03:14:24,280 --> 03:14:31,280
This is why we also offer a range of programs and services that ensure our residents remain housed and thrive.

1682
03:14:31,280 --> 03:14:38,280
Our community projects grant proposed proposal supports too many mansions CME Valley properties,

1683
03:14:38,280 --> 03:14:41,280
Cossettapas and Laverhara apartments.

1684
03:14:41,280 --> 03:14:50,280
Combined, these communities housed 23 extremely low income individuals, including seniors, children, all of whom have experienced chronic homelessness,

1685
03:14:50,280 --> 03:14:54,280
or suffer from a disabling mental or physical condition.

1686
03:14:54,280 --> 03:15:00,280
Residents receive comprehensive onsite support like wraparound services, counseling and resource.

1687
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:20,000
First, to promote housing stability and greater self-sufficiency. Without access to these critical offerings and affordable housing, these individuals are at high risk of becoming homeless. Ensuring the long-term sustainability of the supportive housing communities is vital to the success of vulnerable CME Valley residents.

1688
03:15:20,000 --> 03:15:30,000
Our proposal request funding for the purchase of 21 new energy efficient heating and air conditioning systems, 13, a cost of deposit and eight at Lower Hada.

1689
03:15:30,000 --> 03:15:40,000
The new HVAC units will provide much needed upgrades to the current heating and air systems, many of which are original to the buildings, which were constructed in the 1970s.

1690
03:15:40,000 --> 03:15:50,000
In addition to presenting a range of health and safety concerns, these outdated models are also failing. To function, the current heating units require a standing pilot light.

1691
03:15:50,000 --> 03:16:05,000
Due to their age, these are easily extinguished and can only be re-lit by gas company technicians. This is especially problematic in the winter with many housebound and ill-residents forced to wait. Sometimes for extended periods until their heating can be restored.

1692
03:16:05,000 --> 03:16:14,000
Additionally, for residents who face mental health challenges, disruptions to their routine and living environments can be detrimental to their overall wellbeing.

1693
03:16:14,000 --> 03:16:25,000
The new models combine heating and cooling systems into heating and cooling into one systems, simplifying maintenance and improving residents' safety and living conditions.

1694
03:16:25,000 --> 03:16:31,000
Many mansions is honored to be a current and former recipient of grant funding from the City of CME Valley.

1695
03:16:31,000 --> 03:16:41,000
With this proposal, the organization invites the city to continue our partnership, helping to create a brighter future for in need CME Valley residents. Thanks very much.

1696
03:16:41,000 --> 03:16:46,000
Thank you.

1697
03:16:46,000 --> 03:16:57,000
The next three speakers, Cindy Slack, Nikki Leon, and Gina Trumpcully.

1698
03:16:57,000 --> 03:17:07,000
Good evening, Mayor Kavanaugh. Members of the City Council and fellow community members. My name is Cindy Slack. I'm here to represent the CME Valley Library Foundation.

1699
03:17:07,000 --> 03:17:15,000
Today, I'd like to speak briefly about the why a renovated teen center at our public library is not just a want.

1700
03:17:15,000 --> 03:17:22,000
It's a community need. Teens in our community need a place that feels safe, welcoming, and their own.

1701
03:17:22,000 --> 03:17:36,000
A dedicated teen center offers an environment where they can explore ideas, express themselves, and connect with peers outside of school, and home. A vital third space that fosters belonging.

1702
03:17:36,000 --> 03:17:49,000
With updated technology, comfortable study areas and access to curated resources, a renovated teen center will directly support homework help, research projects, and literacy development.

1703
03:17:49,000 --> 03:17:59,000
It will also provide enrichment programs in STEM, creative arts, and life skills that prepare teens for adulthood.

1704
03:17:59,000 --> 03:18:08,000
Having a positive place to spend time helps reduce risk factors such as isolation, screen addiction, and unsafe behaviors.

1705
03:18:08,000 --> 03:18:18,000
Libraries provide trusted adults and mentors, calm spaces for mental rest, and programming that builds confidence and resilience.

1706
03:18:18,000 --> 03:18:26,000
A vibrant teen center shows young people that the libraries for them when teens feel included and empowered.

1707
03:18:26,000 --> 03:18:32,000
They are more likely to become lifelong learners, readers, and community contributors.

1708
03:18:32,000 --> 03:18:38,000
In conclusion, investing in a renovated teen center is investing in the next generation.

1709
03:18:39,000 --> 03:18:50,000
It's a commitment to equity, education, and opportunity for all. Let's build a space that meets teens where they are, and inspires them to grow into who they can become.

1710
03:18:59,000 --> 03:19:01,000
Good evening, city council.

1711
03:19:02,000 --> 03:19:04,000
Well, then she gets all this.

1712
03:19:05,000 --> 03:19:07,000
Good evening.

1713
03:19:07,000 --> 03:19:13,000
Nikki Leanne here, and this is Gabby C. Fuentes, we are representing body brain trained tonight.

1714
03:19:13,000 --> 03:19:16,000
We just wanted to thank you for your continued support.

1715
03:19:16,000 --> 03:19:24,000
Without this community funding, we wouldn't be able to grow our program like we've been growing in the past few years.

1716
03:19:24,000 --> 03:19:30,000
Thank you, council, men, I alla for attending our punchathon last week. It's our biggest fundraiser the year.

1717
03:19:30,000 --> 03:19:37,000
And we got to watch several of our seniors sit or stand and hit the bag for 90 minutes.

1718
03:19:37,000 --> 03:19:42,000
One of our seniors, we call him Bob too, because we have several bulbs in our class.

1719
03:19:42,000 --> 03:19:44,000
He hit the bag for 90 minutes.

1720
03:19:44,000 --> 03:19:49,000
And unfortunately, Saturday evening, he was in a very bad car accident. He's okay.

1721
03:19:49,000 --> 03:19:57,000
He was on that sick and more in Alamo accident. So his caregiver had called us and said, he probably wasn't going to make it through the night.

1722
03:19:57,000 --> 03:20:04,000
And the next morning, Bob woke up, chatting away, remembered everything, remembered the fireman's names, everything.

1723
03:20:04,000 --> 03:20:06,000
Calls me Tuesday.

1724
03:20:06,000 --> 03:20:09,000
I just wanted to let you know I'm not running away.

1725
03:20:09,000 --> 03:20:14,000
You wanted to make sure that we knew that he was okay, and he couldn't attend the class.

1726
03:20:14,000 --> 03:20:17,000
So I went to visit him Sunday.

1727
03:20:17,000 --> 03:20:22,000
And he was in the hospital. He was a broken back 47 stitches in his head.

1728
03:20:22,000 --> 03:20:25,000
And he's laying in the hospital bed.

1729
03:20:25,000 --> 03:20:29,000
I'm like, Bob, you look terrible. He goes, I'm mad.

1730
03:20:29,000 --> 03:20:32,000
And I'm like, Bob, why are you so mad?

1731
03:20:32,000 --> 03:20:34,000
He said, I'm out for four months.

1732
03:20:34,000 --> 03:20:37,000
And I said, listen, you're alive, right?

1733
03:20:38,000 --> 03:20:44,000
So he said, do you know how long four months is to an 89 year old man?

1734
03:20:44,000 --> 03:20:51,000
And it made us think like through all our burnout and sometimes it gets to be a lot for us

1735
03:20:51,000 --> 03:20:56,000
that we just keep pushing forward for the Bob's and this community.

1736
03:20:56,000 --> 03:20:58,000
And we couldn't do that without your support.

1737
03:20:58,000 --> 03:21:04,000
So this funding is helping us hire more trainers and just keeping the energy going.

1738
03:21:04,000 --> 03:21:06,000
So we just wanted to thank you tonight.

1739
03:21:06,000 --> 03:21:13,000
One last thing, council member, Ella, thank you so much again, and you won a basket.

1740
03:21:13,000 --> 03:21:16,000
So I'm going to email you.

1741
03:21:22,000 --> 03:21:25,000
Good evening, Mayor Cavanos, members of the City Council.

1742
03:21:25,000 --> 03:21:27,000
My name's Gina Trancali.

1743
03:21:27,000 --> 03:21:30,000
And I'm with the CME Valley Cultural Arts Center Foundation.

1744
03:21:30,000 --> 03:21:35,000
It's always a long name to say, but I'm very excited to represent them.

1745
03:21:35,000 --> 03:21:42,000
And the cultural arts centers, Hispanic Heritage Festival, last year,

1746
03:21:42,000 --> 03:21:45,000
the community projects grant that we got of $10,000,

1747
03:21:45,000 --> 03:21:50,000
allowed us to bring that to the City of CME Valley for the first time.

1748
03:21:50,000 --> 03:21:52,000
It was very exciting.

1749
03:21:52,000 --> 03:21:56,000
We estimate about 1,000 people came to the center.

1750
03:21:56,000 --> 03:21:58,000
People who had never been there before.

1751
03:21:58,000 --> 03:22:03,000
So it was really great to have our beautiful cities, cultural art center,

1752
03:22:03,000 --> 03:22:06,000
have people come there who had never been there before.

1753
03:22:06,000 --> 03:22:09,000
And it's a Hispanic Heritage Festival.

1754
03:22:09,000 --> 03:22:13,000
But people from all backgrounds come and enjoy the festival.

1755
03:22:13,000 --> 03:22:18,000
Everyone, we have food vendors, arts and crafts vendors.

1756
03:22:18,000 --> 03:22:22,000
We have art exhibits in the gallery in the theater.

1757
03:22:22,000 --> 03:22:24,000
Last year we had a walk in Weaver.

1758
03:22:24,000 --> 03:22:31,000
And then we had the park in Rick Big Mobile stage in the parking lot.

1759
03:22:31,000 --> 03:22:36,000
When we were able to give performances, ballet folklorical,

1760
03:22:36,000 --> 03:22:41,000
Mediachi, Peruvian dancers, as tech dancers.

1761
03:22:41,000 --> 03:22:46,000
It was just a beautiful festival that brought the community together.

1762
03:22:46,000 --> 03:22:53,000
We did not make the top 10 out of the 23 applicants this year of the community project grant.

1763
03:22:53,000 --> 03:22:58,000
So I'm here today to see if there's any funds that could be designated for us

1764
03:22:58,000 --> 03:23:02,000
to help us put this festival on again this year.

1765
03:23:02,000 --> 03:23:05,000
We've been planning since January.

1766
03:23:05,000 --> 03:23:07,000
We're working towards this.

1767
03:23:07,000 --> 03:23:15,000
This year we're looking to work with the Historical Society to bring information about our Mexican heritage.

1768
03:23:15,000 --> 03:23:21,000
That goes all the way back to the agricultural times of the beginning of the last century.

1769
03:23:21,000 --> 03:23:26,000
So we really would like to ask you for your support.

1770
03:23:26,000 --> 03:23:32,000
This festival is free to the public, which was wonderful.

1771
03:23:32,000 --> 03:23:38,000
It also created economic opportunities and exposures for local and small businesses.

1772
03:23:38,000 --> 03:23:42,000
We had over 40 arts and crafts vendors, restaurants and food vendors,

1773
03:23:42,000 --> 03:23:45,000
giving shopping and dining experiences.

1774
03:23:45,000 --> 03:23:50,000
It provides an enriching cultural and educational experience for the community.

1775
03:23:50,000 --> 03:23:54,000
And it brings the community together, which is I think the most important thing.

1776
03:23:54,000 --> 03:24:01,000
We want to have things in our community that bring us together in a really positive way.

1777
03:24:01,000 --> 03:24:07,000
So if there's any way that you can bring some funds our way to help us fund this.

1778
03:24:07,000 --> 03:24:12,000
You know, we want to pay our artists something, our performers.

1779
03:24:12,000 --> 03:24:19,000
You know, we rent tables and chairs and we rent this stage and a canopy, a shade canopy in the back parking lots.

1780
03:24:19,000 --> 03:24:21,000
It's a little bit hot in September.

1781
03:24:21,000 --> 03:24:23,000
This event is September 27th.

1782
03:24:23,000 --> 03:24:32,000
So those are the kinds of things that we will be spending our money on, not too much, but we would appreciate your consideration.

1783
03:24:32,000 --> 03:24:33,000
Thank you.

1784
03:24:33,000 --> 03:24:34,000
It was a wonderful event.

1785
03:24:34,000 --> 03:24:35,000
You know, I was there last year.

1786
03:24:35,000 --> 03:24:37,000
I guess I've never had that one.

1787
03:24:37,000 --> 03:24:39,000
I would love to surprise this.

1788
03:24:39,000 --> 03:24:40,000
Thank you.

1789
03:24:40,000 --> 03:24:41,000
Thank you.

1790
03:24:41,000 --> 03:24:49,000
The next three speakers are Maryam Cidra, Sandra Fernandez,

1791
03:24:49,000 --> 03:24:52,000
Akinbach and Melissa Bumstedt.

1792
03:24:58,000 --> 03:25:00,000
Sarah Sauer.

1793
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:04,000
Oh, you're Melissa.

1794
03:25:04,000 --> 03:25:05,000
Oh, I'm sorry, Melissa.

1795
03:25:05,000 --> 03:25:07,000
Hi. Thank you.

1796
03:25:08,000 --> 03:25:17,000
Good, very late evening to Mary, kind of a hot and this in the Valley City Council members appreciate having this opportunity to speak to you.

1797
03:25:17,000 --> 03:25:21,000
I'm Melissa Bumstedt with Parents Against the Sanages and a Field App.

1798
03:25:21,000 --> 03:25:31,000
We've come into a unique opportunity to start being founding members and leadership of several different air quality coalitions.

1799
03:25:31,000 --> 03:25:35,000
We've come into our experience with collecting air samples through the Wozifire.

1800
03:25:35,000 --> 03:25:39,000
We were invited by the Air Quality Consortium,

1801
03:25:39,000 --> 03:25:58,000
Academic Consortium including UCLA, UC Davis, USC, UCSB, Caltech, Harvard, and many, many other organizations who have taken academic interest in trying to protect residents from the LA fire.

1802
03:25:58,000 --> 03:26:00,000
Through our past involvement,

1803
03:26:00,000 --> 03:26:05,000
we were able to start the Los Angeles Community Clean Air Coalition.

1804
03:26:05,000 --> 03:26:11,000
And we are now working with a new group that we are calling the AQ Kenejo Valley,

1805
03:26:11,000 --> 03:26:15,000
which is focusing on clean air.

1806
03:26:15,000 --> 03:26:18,000
As you've heard there are a lot of concerns about the landfill,

1807
03:26:18,000 --> 03:26:23,000
and I'm very excited to present an opportunity for the city of Cime Valley,

1808
03:26:23,000 --> 03:26:30,000
city of Moore Park, Ventura County, to come together and create an independent air quality monitoring system.

1809
03:26:30,000 --> 03:26:35,000
This would be part of the Phoenix Network, which Caltech has created.

1810
03:26:35,000 --> 03:26:42,000
They are over 45 similar monitors in the Pasadena, Altadena area.

1811
03:26:42,000 --> 03:26:48,000
Fortunately, they found they have a monitoring black carbon along the trekking routes.

1812
03:26:48,000 --> 03:26:52,000
And a finding limited migration of that contamination.

1813
03:26:52,000 --> 03:26:56,000
That kind of data puts confidence in residents.

1814
03:26:56,000 --> 03:27:02,000
That's kind of information that they could access in real time, online, and be able to see for themselves.

1815
03:27:02,000 --> 03:27:08,000
So, how could potential contamination from the Cime Valley landfill be impacting them?

1816
03:27:08,000 --> 03:27:14,000
So, for the people of Altadena, it has been a big reassurance that's something we would like to see as a reassurance here.

1817
03:27:14,000 --> 03:27:21,000
Also, should contamination migrated all it would give elected officials opportunities to take protective measures.

1818
03:27:21,000 --> 03:27:23,000
It's a tool that we would like to present.

1819
03:27:23,000 --> 03:27:31,000
I have sent out invitations tomorrow for our first meeting that we'll be having with a wide range of interested parties.

1820
03:27:31,000 --> 03:27:38,000
It's something we think that is actually considerably affordable for this type of technology.

1821
03:27:38,000 --> 03:27:46,000
It's incredibly cutting edge technology, even including speciation, which hardly anyone in the world has.

1822
03:27:46,000 --> 03:27:56,000
But there is an opportunity to bring that to Cime Valley that could actually tell which specific types of contaminants could potentially reach residents should that be happening.

1823
03:27:56,000 --> 03:28:03,000
So, I'd like to open that invitation and hope to speak with you again about this.

1824
03:28:03,000 --> 03:28:05,000
Thank you.

1825
03:28:06,000 --> 03:28:09,000
Sarah Seller.

1826
03:28:13,000 --> 03:28:17,000
And the last speaker, Greg Lister.

1827
03:28:29,000 --> 03:28:32,000
You're hiding back there, I didn't see you.

1828
03:28:32,000 --> 03:28:34,000
Absolutely.

1829
03:28:35,000 --> 03:28:40,000
I could either be obedient or I could come and say what I think needs to be said.

1830
03:28:40,000 --> 03:28:43,000
And John Lapper pulled a list or so on.

1831
03:28:43,000 --> 03:28:48,000
He's sleeping on the couch tonight, just to be very clear.

1832
03:28:48,000 --> 03:28:58,000
I was reading, I'm commenting about the proposed Cime sewer fee hike, which I am completely opposed to.

1833
03:28:58,000 --> 03:29:05,000
It's just completely wrong, because it's being financed the wrong way.

1834
03:29:05,000 --> 03:29:10,000
And I read this article in the acorn, it's just incomplete.

1835
03:29:10,000 --> 03:29:14,000
And I want to fill in the rest of the blanks that I think need to be said.

1836
03:29:14,000 --> 03:29:19,000
But one of the things that has occurred to me, Ronald Reagan, 1980.

1837
03:29:19,000 --> 03:29:24,000
He asked the question, are you a better off today than you were four years ago?

1838
03:29:24,000 --> 03:29:28,000
I mean, I know the answer to that, because he had the Jimmy Carter inflation.

1839
03:29:28,000 --> 03:29:33,000
We have just been through four years of the Joe Biden inflation.

1840
03:29:33,000 --> 03:29:38,000
And if we were to ask the Cime Valley residents today, are you better off today than you were four years ago?

1841
03:29:38,000 --> 03:29:40,000
What do you think they would say?

1842
03:29:40,000 --> 03:29:44,000
And yet five years ago, the city council raised fees.

1843
03:29:44,000 --> 03:29:48,000
45% the sewer connection, these 45%.

1844
03:29:48,000 --> 03:29:53,000
No one anticipated that time, they're going to have four years of inflation.

1845
03:29:53,000 --> 03:29:54,000
But they got hammered.

1846
03:29:54,000 --> 03:30:00,000
And now once again, here you come, here is raising some more, because this is the way you, and in the eight.

1847
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:15,000
Court, which is really amazing to me. It says, public work, director Ron, which you walkie, who I admire. So, the increases are necessary to help fund the city's $71 million plan for $49 capital agreement projects.

1848
03:30:15,000 --> 03:30:24,000
Five years ago, I read a report that there's $160 million unfunded capital improvements. And you'd be like, that's five years ago.

1849
03:30:24,000 --> 03:30:39,000
What happened to $90 million? We're reading 71 million for 49 projects. How many total projects are there? Now, as we get into this a little bit further, I was a banker 18 years.

1850
03:30:39,000 --> 03:30:49,000
The business school and banking, the loan trading, you went to Union Bank's loan trading program, and you're taught that when you have a long-term asset, you're acquiring a long-term asset, you do a long-term financing.

1851
03:30:49,000 --> 03:30:57,000
If you're going to, if you're a contractor, you're going to buy some skip loader, you're not going to pay for it out of cash, you're going to get a seven-year loan, same kind of thing.

1852
03:30:57,000 --> 03:31:04,000
In 50 years, according to Ron, we have an old system and we're doing work. It's now expected last 50 to 100 years.

1853
03:31:04,000 --> 03:31:12,000
Well, it's a pretty safe statement, because no one in this room is going to be around in 50 years, but the concept is still the same.

1854
03:31:12,000 --> 03:31:25,000
Now, I'll tell you what was really funny to me, and not funny, it's sad, is that while the city five years ago said, no, we're not going to do these bonds, but they did vote for pension obligation bonds.

1855
03:31:25,000 --> 03:31:32,000
This is a long-term finance that should be financed with 30-year money, and not take it out on the current residents.

1856
03:31:32,000 --> 03:31:37,000
There's more and more people that are on fixed incomes that just can't get it anymore.

1857
03:31:37,000 --> 03:31:47,000
And I think you should vote not do this. And Joe, if you vote for it, it's really bad.

1858
03:31:48,000 --> 03:31:57,000
The people who want to run for your seat will bring this up forever, and it'll be, you know, you know, just done for it.

1859
03:31:57,000 --> 03:31:58,000
So, sorry here and that.

1860
03:31:58,000 --> 03:31:59,000
All right, thank you.

1861
03:31:59,000 --> 03:32:00,000
Okay.

1862
03:32:00,000 --> 03:32:03,000
That count is going to be very nice.

1863
03:32:03,000 --> 03:32:09,000
We may not even get the count. She may be outside, just to be very clear.

1864
03:32:09,000 --> 03:32:14,000
He knows the rules. He's not allowed to come, but that's because he's not supposed to come.

1865
03:32:14,000 --> 03:32:23,000
Madam Mayor, members of the city council next to the agenda is item six, a city council comments regarding all public statements.

1866
03:32:23,000 --> 03:32:25,000
Four and six.

1867
03:32:25,000 --> 03:32:27,000
Please let Elaine go first.

1868
03:32:27,000 --> 03:32:29,000
She hasn't pushed her button yet.

1869
03:32:29,000 --> 03:32:30,000
I want to hear it.

1870
03:32:30,000 --> 03:32:41,000
I don't have anyone that was just, okay. Sorry, Council member, excuse me, Mayor Pracham Judge.

1871
03:32:41,000 --> 03:32:56,000
We're not on consent agenda yet. We're, we're on, that's all right. We moved everything around.

1872
03:32:56,000 --> 03:32:58,000
We're going to be moving on to consent.

1873
03:32:58,000 --> 03:33:00,000
That's going to get a little weird.

1874
03:33:00,000 --> 03:33:03,000
But I really have anything specific.

1875
03:33:03,000 --> 03:33:07,000
Like I said about the landfill and the stuff going on over there.

1876
03:33:07,000 --> 03:33:11,000
My concerns were the same concerns as yours when it's their first started happening.

1877
03:33:11,000 --> 03:33:18,000
I just want to make it clear, this is an emergency of epic proportions that we're not victims of this time.

1878
03:33:18,000 --> 03:33:22,000
See, Valley has been the victims of fires before and other things.

1879
03:33:22,000 --> 03:33:27,000
This is one of those times where all the communities around that area have to come together and help people out.

1880
03:33:27,000 --> 03:33:32,000
The people that own those properties want to get their land cleared and want to rebuild some of them, some of them won't.

1881
03:33:32,000 --> 03:33:35,000
A lot of them won't actually because of the prices today.

1882
03:33:35,000 --> 03:33:38,000
But like I said, this is an emergency where we'll have to come together.

1883
03:33:38,000 --> 03:33:40,000
God forbid this ever happened to our city.

1884
03:33:40,000 --> 03:33:44,000
I would expect every community around us to come together and help us too.

1885
03:33:44,000 --> 03:33:46,000
And that's what we're doing with our landfill.

1886
03:33:46,000 --> 03:33:51,000
I've been, my mind was putting it easy long time ago as far as a toxicity of the stuff going in there,

1887
03:33:51,000 --> 03:33:54,000
which is no more toxic than your own garbage in your cans.

1888
03:33:54,000 --> 03:34:01,000
No matter how many people go to the times and write stuff they can't prove, that's all it wants to.

1889
03:34:01,000 --> 03:34:02,000
Thank you.

1890
03:34:02,000 --> 03:34:04,000
Councilmember Letster.

1891
03:34:04,000 --> 03:34:06,000
So I'm not going to comment on that last one.

1892
03:34:06,000 --> 03:34:09,000
We'll call it the time we'll come when we talk to sewer rates.

1893
03:34:09,000 --> 03:34:15,000
I want to thank everyone who's here who represent wonderful nonprofits and organizations that do so much.

1894
03:34:15,000 --> 03:34:25,000
And it is, and so deserving, all of you, and it's very hard because I know as I read through with 23 applicants, only 10 recipients.

1895
03:34:25,000 --> 03:34:27,000
That means 13 that didn't receive.

1896
03:34:27,000 --> 03:34:31,000
And anyway, we'll be talking about it more in a little bit.

1897
03:34:31,000 --> 03:34:38,000
But I just wanted to commend all of you and say how incredibly deserving you are all of receiving funds.

1898
03:34:38,000 --> 03:34:44,000
And maybe that's what needs to come out of this is that waste management doubles the grant money as we get for.

1899
03:34:44,000 --> 03:34:46,000
Next anything that should be the result.

1900
03:34:46,000 --> 03:34:55,000
That's that's what I, so we'll we'll be talking to them later on behind the scenes because I think that might be the solution.

1901
03:34:55,000 --> 03:34:58,000
So I'm not going to really address any of the comments.

1902
03:34:58,000 --> 03:35:04,000
Although I will say I did want to thank.

1903
03:35:04,000 --> 03:35:07,000
The list of I'm stood.

1904
03:35:07,000 --> 03:35:10,000
I think it's what she's doing in terms of air quality.

1905
03:35:10,000 --> 03:35:11,000
I think consortium.

1906
03:35:11,000 --> 03:35:13,000
I think we all was want to prove how safe things are.

1907
03:35:13,000 --> 03:35:15,000
And so I'm certainly not opposed to that.

1908
03:35:15,000 --> 03:35:17,000
And we would be worthy of having further conversations.

1909
03:35:17,000 --> 03:35:24,000
But I to please with what's taking place in our and the regular and what's in place right now to keep us safe.

1910
03:35:24,000 --> 03:35:28,000
I want to know that certainly it's worthy having that conversation further.

1911
03:35:28,000 --> 03:35:30,000
And that concludes my thoughts.

1912
03:35:30,000 --> 03:35:33,000
Thank you. Council member Reds.

1913
03:35:33,000 --> 03:35:34,000
Thank you, Madam Mayor.

1914
03:35:34,000 --> 03:35:39,000
I'll I too wanted to thank everybody who came out and spoke on behalf of the nonprofits.

1915
03:35:39,000 --> 03:35:44,000
It's one of the fun tragic things we get to do is hand out money, but not enough.

1916
03:35:44,000 --> 03:35:51,000
And we're going to have a discussion on that coming up next.

1917
03:35:51,000 --> 03:35:54,000
For all those that do good work in the city.

1918
03:35:54,000 --> 03:35:55,000
Thank you so much.

1919
03:35:55,000 --> 03:36:00,000
I'm going to go ahead and talk about our last speaker.

1920
03:36:00,000 --> 03:36:03,000
And say that.

1921
03:36:03,000 --> 03:36:07,000
When people bring information to an opinion is the city council.

1922
03:36:07,000 --> 03:36:11,000
It is a appreciated even if the source of their information is the acorn.

1923
03:36:11,000 --> 03:36:17,000
As they're a source of what I don't appreciate is the failed threat against city council.

1924
03:36:17,000 --> 03:36:19,000
Should they not act in a certain way.

1925
03:36:19,000 --> 03:36:25,000
And I think Mr. Literature should think about that in future comments to council.

1926
03:36:25,000 --> 03:36:29,000
It was inappropriate.

1927
03:36:29,000 --> 03:36:31,000
Thank you, council member.

1928
03:36:31,000 --> 03:36:35,000
And for the last speaker I'm just glad he thinks I'm Joe Ayala.

1929
03:36:35,000 --> 03:36:37,000
And I'm Joseph Ayala.

1930
03:36:37,000 --> 03:36:38,000
I didn't correct him.

1931
03:36:38,000 --> 03:36:39,000
And so.

1932
03:36:39,000 --> 03:36:43,000
And I do think it's thank you council member Rhodes.

1933
03:36:43,000 --> 03:36:48,000
And if I vote for this, I'm not the only one who might vote for it.

1934
03:36:48,000 --> 03:36:53,000
So it's interesting that I was the one that was singled out.

1935
03:36:53,000 --> 03:36:59,000
But I will vote the way that I think is best for the city.

1936
03:36:59,000 --> 03:37:02,000
And what I think the people want.

1937
03:37:02,000 --> 03:37:08,000
And whatever ramifications come of that, that's what I take.

1938
03:37:08,000 --> 03:37:11,000
Thank you, council member Ayala.

1939
03:37:11,000 --> 03:37:14,000
I also just want to thank everybody for coming out tonight.

1940
03:37:14,000 --> 03:37:16,000
And you guys have been here a long time.

1941
03:37:16,000 --> 03:37:18,000
So we did move your item up next.

1942
03:37:18,000 --> 03:37:20,000
So we don't have to go through the consent calendar.

1943
03:37:20,000 --> 03:37:22,000
So that will help a little bit.

1944
03:37:22,000 --> 03:37:27,000
All of you represent organizations that just are what help make this community great.

1945
03:37:27,000 --> 03:37:33,000
And every single penny is is used and utilized to its full extent.

1946
03:37:33,000 --> 03:37:34,000
I know.

1947
03:37:34,000 --> 03:37:37,000
But Natalie, I wanted to just I hadn't really met you before.

1948
03:37:37,000 --> 03:37:38,000
With many mansions.

1949
03:37:38,000 --> 03:37:40,000
You were so eloquent and you spoke.

1950
03:37:40,000 --> 03:37:41,000
So thank you.

1951
03:37:41,000 --> 03:37:43,000
Thank you for representing many mansions.

1952
03:37:43,000 --> 03:37:45,000
I really appreciate that.

1953
03:37:45,000 --> 03:37:46,000
So.

1954
03:37:46,000 --> 03:37:51,000
And again, I I also like council member Litzers recommendation about doubling the money.

1955
03:37:51,000 --> 03:37:54,000
I actually did for the cultural arts center.

1956
03:37:54,000 --> 03:37:57,000
I said, why don't we ask please management for some extra money.

1957
03:37:57,000 --> 03:38:02,000
So don't tell them I said that because they might get they might get mad at us.

1958
03:38:02,000 --> 03:38:04,000
But, you know, we can always ask.

1959
03:38:04,000 --> 03:38:05,000
Right.

1960
03:38:05,000 --> 03:38:06,000
So all right.

1961
03:38:06,000 --> 03:38:08,000
So those are just my comments.

1962
03:38:08,000 --> 03:38:10,000
So we can move on to next item, please.

1963
03:38:11,000 --> 03:38:13,000
And the next item was moved up.

1964
03:38:13,000 --> 03:38:16,000
So that's item 9A.

1965
03:38:16,000 --> 03:38:18,000
Madam Mayor.

1966
03:38:18,000 --> 03:38:21,000
Award of fiscal year 2025, 26 community,

1967
03:38:21,000 --> 03:38:25,000
Project Grant Fund grant program funds.

1968
03:38:25,000 --> 03:38:28,000
And senior management Alice Cynthia McCullough is presenting this item.

1969
03:38:36,000 --> 03:38:39,000
I just want to start by saying.

1970
03:38:39,000 --> 03:38:44,000
Your second meeting went shorter than this council meeting.

1971
03:38:44,000 --> 03:38:49,000
So I appreciate your patience.

1972
03:38:49,000 --> 03:38:50,000
Good evening, Mayor.

1973
03:38:50,000 --> 03:38:52,000
Kavna and members of the city council.

1974
03:38:52,000 --> 03:38:57,000
As mentioned earlier tonight in 2011, the city and waste management.

1975
03:38:57,000 --> 03:39:08,000
Executed a memorandum of understanding, which provides annual funding of $150,000 to the city for community projects and programs at the city council's discretion.

1976
03:39:09,000 --> 03:39:26,000
Subsequently the city council developed the community project grant program to distribute funding and created the community project grant review committee to enhance the public's input into the process for developing funding recommendations.

1977
03:39:26,000 --> 03:39:35,000
The application period for fiscal year 2526 funding cycle began on January 14 and concluded on January 30.

1978
03:39:35,000 --> 03:39:44,000
A total of $590,000 was requested from 23 eligible nonprofit organizations that applied for funding.

1979
03:39:44,000 --> 03:39:55,000
As you heard earlier this evening, the review committee met twice to establish the review process and make its funding recommendations for the fiscal year 2526 funding cycle.

1980
03:39:56,000 --> 03:40:05,000
The review committee's funding recommendations as they will be displayed on the screen are organized in order of review committee ranking.

1981
03:40:05,000 --> 03:40:10,000
The review committee has recommended the following agencies receive funding.

1982
03:40:10,000 --> 03:40:19,000
The free clinic of CME Valley, the Samaritan Center, cancer support community, many mansions, body brain train,

1983
03:40:20,000 --> 03:40:31,000
Gigi's Playhouse, Shepherd of the Valley, Sarah's House, the CME Valley Library Foundation and the Boys and Girls Club of these agencies are recommended for full funding.

1984
03:40:31,000 --> 03:40:39,000
A minimum of $10,000 is recommended per request, which is consistent with the eligibility criteria adopted by the city council.

1985
03:40:39,000 --> 03:40:48,000
The review committee's funding recommendations attempted to maximize funding as to as many agencies as possible.

1986
03:40:48,000 --> 03:40:56,000
While considering the needs of the community and recognizing that many deserving organizations and valuable projects would not receive funding.

1987
03:40:56,000 --> 03:41:07,000
This concludes the presentation staff and some of the applicants are available to respond to your questions.

1988
03:41:08,000 --> 03:41:11,000
Do I have anyone wishing to speak your questions?

1989
03:41:15,000 --> 03:41:16,000
Seeing none.

1990
03:41:16,000 --> 03:41:18,000
Council Member Litzer.

1991
03:41:23,000 --> 03:41:32,000
I'm just a little bit more to understand the process and I understand that they all that each participant do ranking and in terms of their what they're ranking.

1992
03:41:32,000 --> 03:41:40,000
I'm gathering that they just there was a discussion to fully fund as opposed to partially fund was that that was conscientious you want to speak to that.

1993
03:41:40,000 --> 03:41:55,000
Yeah, so actually some of the committee members had asked that I bring that up that the youth council member was the one that pointed out that they could fully fund almost all of the first top 10 organizations.

1994
03:41:55,000 --> 03:42:13,000
And then they took a look at two other organizations and based off of the amount that they had requested they gave them less funding to make the even $150,000 each organization during the process had said that they could take less.

1995
03:42:13,000 --> 03:42:19,000
I do want to call out that there were three organizations that had updated their funding request.

1996
03:42:19,000 --> 03:42:29,000
Two of them had actually asked for more and then let us know during the meeting that they were actually going to request less.

1997
03:42:29,000 --> 03:42:44,000
There was one organization that due to inflation and tariffs had actually increased the amount it was up to the committees discretion if they wanted to take that into account so as you can see on the screen.

1998
03:42:45,000 --> 03:42:53,000
The free clinic and Sarah's house both asked for less and then the senior valley library foundation increased their amount.

1999
03:42:53,000 --> 03:43:02,000
Sarah's house and the boys and girls club are the two organizations that are not fully recommended for full funding.

2000
03:43:02,000 --> 03:43:04,000
Thank you.

2001
03:43:04,000 --> 03:43:06,000
Thank you.

2002
03:43:06,000 --> 03:43:10,000
And I'm assuming now this is a question for our C manager.

2003
03:43:10,000 --> 03:43:15,000
I'm assuming there's no other parts of money lying around at the moment that you want to expose.

2004
03:43:15,000 --> 03:43:21,000
I haven't found them yet, but I'll keep looking.

2005
03:43:21,000 --> 03:43:23,000
I don't have any further questions.

2006
03:43:23,000 --> 03:43:27,000
And I just I've really wanted to make a couple of comments and that was a different.

2007
03:43:27,000 --> 03:43:30,000
Is now the time or do that whether this one I make questions first.

2008
03:43:30,000 --> 03:43:31,000
No, this is it.

2009
03:43:31,000 --> 03:43:32,000
Okay.

2010
03:43:32,000 --> 03:43:38,000
I guess what what I came to as I went went run through.

2011
03:43:38,000 --> 03:43:45,000
I realized that you have seven people participating in this process who have different objectives of what's important.

2012
03:43:45,000 --> 03:43:47,000
What isn't as they go through funding.

2013
03:43:47,000 --> 03:43:54,000
I thought it was interesting that two entities received first place votes but didn't make the top 10.

2014
03:43:54,000 --> 03:44:03,000
Just to show that the variety of beliefs in terms of needs and there are so many deserving.

2015
03:44:03,000 --> 03:44:10,000
And I realized if I had been the one doing it, I would probably rank things slightly different because my values might be different.

2016
03:44:10,000 --> 03:44:17,000
For instance, I think why I'm seeing so deserving for their water program that keeps children from drowning and learning how to swim.

2017
03:44:17,000 --> 03:44:20,000
I would have absolutely put them in the top 10 somewhere.

2018
03:44:20,000 --> 03:44:24,000
But I recognize that I wasn't on that committee.

2019
03:44:24,000 --> 03:44:27,000
And I appreciate of all the efforts of those that were.

2020
03:44:27,000 --> 03:44:33,000
And so at this time, I'm not going to make a recommend any changes.

2021
03:44:33,000 --> 03:44:39,000
I just really wished we had more money and I really do want us to go back to waste management and say, you know.

2022
03:44:40,000 --> 03:44:45,000
You're you're really busy now. We're sure that there's more money that you could help our nonprofits out.

2023
03:44:45,000 --> 03:44:48,000
So we'll see where that goes. Those are my thoughts.

2024
03:44:48,000 --> 03:44:50,000
We just don't want to push them too far.

2025
03:44:50,000 --> 03:44:51,000
Agreed.

2026
03:44:51,000 --> 03:44:53,000
They're still good neighbors.

2027
03:44:53,000 --> 03:44:55,000
Any other questions?

2028
03:44:55,000 --> 03:44:56,000
Concerns.

2029
03:44:56,000 --> 03:44:57,000
If not.

2030
03:44:57,000 --> 03:44:59,000
Intertain emotion.

2031
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:19,000
Madam Mayor, I move that we award $150,000 in community projects grant funding for fiscal year 2526 to the agencies as recommended by the review committee and authorize the city manager to approve final scopes work to match final funding awards and execute contracts.

2032
03:45:19,000 --> 03:45:29,000
Call for the vote.

2033
03:45:29,000 --> 03:45:31,000
The motion passes unanimously.

2034
03:45:31,000 --> 03:45:34,000
Thank you.

2035
03:45:34,000 --> 03:45:38,000
And just apologies to those here who are so deserving that it received funds.

2036
03:45:38,000 --> 03:45:39,000
We know we want to give you money.

2037
03:45:39,000 --> 03:45:43,000
We'll try and find some more. Try.

2038
03:45:43,000 --> 03:45:48,000
Madam Mayor and members of the city council next on the agenda is item 70 consent calendar.

2039
03:45:48,000 --> 03:45:52,000
And there are three resolutions for your consideration this evening.

2040
03:45:52,000 --> 03:45:56,000
Consent item nine resolution number 205-11.

2041
03:45:56,000 --> 03:46:03,000
It resolution of the city council, the city of Cemi Valley, approved the city of Cemi Valley's Title VI program.

2042
03:46:03,000 --> 03:46:07,000
Consent item 10 resolution number 205-12.

2043
03:46:07,000 --> 03:46:16,000
It resolution authorizing the city manager to execute the certifications in the short months and appoint authorize aging for any action necessary for the purpose of obtaining the low carbon transition.

2044
03:46:16,000 --> 03:46:22,560
of obtaining the low-carbon transit operations program funds, and consent item 11, resolution

2045
03:46:22,560 --> 03:46:29,600
number 2025-13, a resolution declaring the city council's intent to levian collect assessments

2046
03:46:29,600 --> 03:46:35,440
for fiscal year 2025-26 in C.V. landscape district number 1, pursuant to streets in

2047
03:46:35,440 --> 03:46:45,920
highways, co-2264, and setting a time-inplace for a public hearing.

2048
03:46:47,920 --> 03:46:50,720
Councilmember Letster?

2049
03:46:50,720 --> 03:46:57,440
I believe that Mike already mentioned he wanted to pull item 7, but I would also like to

2050
03:46:57,440 --> 03:47:02,320
have a discussion about item 4.

2051
03:47:02,320 --> 03:47:09,360
Well, nothing's been pulled yet, so you want, I would like for, and I believe, and seven along

2052
03:47:09,360 --> 03:47:13,120
with Mayor Potem, Judge.

2053
03:47:13,120 --> 03:47:14,960
Any others?

2054
03:47:16,000 --> 03:47:21,200
We have a motion to approve 123, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, and 11.

2055
03:47:22,400 --> 03:47:23,200
Thank you.

2056
03:47:23,200 --> 03:47:24,720
So, move, second.

2057
03:47:24,720 --> 03:47:25,920
Thank you, all in favor.

2058
03:47:25,920 --> 03:47:27,280
Color starts, call the vote.

2059
03:47:32,880 --> 03:47:34,720
The motion passes unanimously.

2060
03:47:34,720 --> 03:47:37,440
Thank you, go on to item 4.

2061
03:47:41,440 --> 03:47:42,240
So, thank you.

2062
03:47:43,280 --> 03:47:47,840
I wanted to discuss item, I say 4.

2063
03:47:48,560 --> 03:47:48,880
Yes.

2064
03:47:50,720 --> 03:47:51,680
Do they get the right one?

2065
03:47:54,160 --> 03:47:55,200
Is that the right one?

2066
03:47:55,200 --> 03:47:56,200
Yes.

2067
03:47:56,200 --> 03:47:57,200
Why is that come?

2068
03:47:57,200 --> 03:47:58,200
Okay, I'm sorry.

2069
03:47:58,200 --> 03:47:59,200
I've got so many comments in my.

2070
03:47:59,200 --> 03:48:00,200
Okay, thank you.

2071
03:48:00,200 --> 03:48:01,200
I'll get back to my.

2072
03:48:01,200 --> 03:48:03,200
So many comments in my iPad.

2073
03:48:03,200 --> 03:48:04,200
I apologize.

2074
03:48:04,200 --> 03:48:05,200
Okay.

2075
03:48:07,200 --> 03:48:13,200
So, I sit on V-cogs board.

2076
03:48:13,200 --> 03:48:21,200
And basically, this item is that they have applied for root funds from SCAC to basically do something

2077
03:48:21,200 --> 03:48:23,200
to help in housing development, et cetera.

2078
03:48:23,200 --> 03:48:30,200
And so, if I, as I understand this particular item, basically, they're putting it out to any cities,

2079
03:48:30,200 --> 03:48:37,200
if they would like to do infill development somewhere, they would be happy to come up with a plan,

2080
03:48:37,200 --> 03:48:40,200
and basically do some planning until you all you could do it.

2081
03:48:40,200 --> 03:48:50,200
And specifically, we are being asked to approve that basically planners go forward and look at our MetroLink train station parking lot,

2082
03:48:50,200 --> 03:48:53,200
which is currently owned, but I'm not currently.

2083
03:48:53,200 --> 03:48:54,200
It is owned by the city.

2084
03:48:54,200 --> 03:48:55,200
We have that.

2085
03:48:55,200 --> 03:48:57,200
We owned that lot.

2086
03:48:57,200 --> 03:49:01,200
I've had developers through the years approach me, same boy.

2087
03:49:01,200 --> 03:49:03,200
I could do something great without lot.

2088
03:49:03,200 --> 03:49:05,200
So we know that it's, we know that it's there.

2089
03:49:05,200 --> 03:49:08,200
We know it's available to do something with.

2090
03:49:08,200 --> 03:49:14,200
If we so chose to, we know it's part of our invisible potential plan.

2091
03:49:14,200 --> 03:49:16,200
I guess my concern.

2092
03:49:16,200 --> 03:49:19,200
And this is what I'd like to have come up conversation with my council,

2093
03:49:19,200 --> 03:49:24,200
fellow council members, because I'm not opposed to doing maybe something in the corner,

2094
03:49:24,200 --> 03:49:29,200
maybe in SRO, I don't know, but I'm a little concerned that if we,

2095
03:49:29,200 --> 03:49:37,200
that if we go forward and say yes, go ahead, we want you to give us a plan of what we could do with development here.

2096
03:49:37,200 --> 03:49:40,200
And as I read the report, they go through, make these suggestions.

2097
03:49:40,200 --> 03:49:41,200
You could do this in this.

2098
03:49:41,200 --> 03:49:45,200
And then it will come back to us in fact that one of the requirements,

2099
03:49:45,200 --> 03:49:49,200
if you read page five, is that when that report comes back to us,

2100
03:49:49,200 --> 03:49:55,200
is going to come back with a clear recommendation from the city that we should adopt that plan.

2101
03:49:55,200 --> 03:50:00,200
And I'm a little concerned that if we go ahead and come up with a,

2102
03:50:00,200 --> 03:50:04,200
a development plan for that, for that parking area,

2103
03:50:04,200 --> 03:50:10,200
it will be, it just puts us put it on the radar that we're looking to develop it.

2104
03:50:10,200 --> 03:50:13,200
And I'm not convinced right now that I want it developed.

2105
03:50:13,200 --> 03:50:17,200
And so I guess I'm, I know we could always, at any time,

2106
03:50:17,200 --> 03:50:19,200
their developers that would gladly do.

2107
03:50:19,200 --> 03:50:22,200
If we wanted to say, you know, do something this corner, do something here.

2108
03:50:22,200 --> 03:50:26,200
There's no question we could get someone who'd be happy to take our land and develop it.

2109
03:50:26,200 --> 03:50:32,200
But my question is, is this really what we want to do to signal to developers that we have this parcel and,

2110
03:50:32,200 --> 03:50:36,200
and here's a way that we want, it developed.

2111
03:50:36,200 --> 03:50:39,200
So I'm just asking council members how you feel about this,

2112
03:50:39,200 --> 03:50:44,200
because I, I'm, I know, I don't, I think it's signaling,

2113
03:50:44,200 --> 03:50:47,200
but, well, I think it could have some problems that we do.

2114
03:50:47,200 --> 03:50:50,200
I understand there's no obligation to do it.

2115
03:50:50,200 --> 03:50:53,200
However, it's going to come back to us with a recommendation that we should do it,

2116
03:50:53,200 --> 03:50:55,200
because that's what's required by this.

2117
03:50:55,200 --> 03:50:58,200
At least, it says in the report.

2118
03:50:58,200 --> 03:51:01,200
Council member Reds.

2119
03:51:02,200 --> 03:51:05,200
So.

2120
03:51:05,200 --> 03:51:12,200
I, our other, my relationship to the report program is that I said on Skag and the Community Economic Human Development Committee,

2121
03:51:12,200 --> 03:51:17,200
and a lot of the reap monies are sort of channel through there, and we vote on them.

2122
03:51:17,200 --> 03:51:26,200
And it's an excellent program and, and it does help cities offset costs of hiring consultants for development ideas and so on.

2123
03:51:26,200 --> 03:51:29,200
And my first reading of this, I want cool.

2124
03:51:29,200 --> 03:51:36,200
We can come up with like three interesting plans that that we could use for that station.

2125
03:51:36,200 --> 03:51:43,200
Then it's brought to my attention that this is actually looking to be an actionable plan that we're going to pick of the three and go,

2126
03:51:43,200 --> 03:51:48,200
yeah, let's do that and I'm not convinced that I'm.

2127
03:51:48,200 --> 03:51:54,200
In the same spirit that you're asking the question, I'm not convinced that I'm ready to take an actionable plan and start implementing it,

2128
03:51:54,200 --> 03:51:58,200
because I believe there are others who might also have plans for that property.

2129
03:51:58,200 --> 03:52:00,200
It's a, it's like the town center.

2130
03:52:00,200 --> 03:52:05,200
It's a important asset that we have, and I don't want to be pigeonholed into one of three solutions.

2131
03:52:05,200 --> 03:52:10,200
But I wanted to ask staff, what's your interpretation of the outcome of this type of report?

2132
03:52:10,200 --> 03:52:20,200
If we, if we accept these funds and accept the consultant help, are we in any way obligating ourselves to go forward with the project?

2133
03:52:20,200 --> 03:52:37,200
And then perhaps also address Councilman Lister's concern that it will then put us on the radar and put an extreme pressure that we actually should do something with that property before perhaps we're ready to.

2134
03:52:37,200 --> 03:52:43,200
Yes, Council member wrote to members of the State Council, let me try to answer that question and address those comments.

2135
03:52:43,200 --> 03:52:46,200
The.

2136
03:52:46,200 --> 03:52:55,200
The funding was presented to cities of intercounty and our approach was to.

2137
03:52:55,200 --> 03:52:59,200
We just adopted the envisioned senior to program.

2138
03:52:59,200 --> 03:53:08,200
We would use these funding to create a design concept using those new standards we created to use as a showcase for future developers anywhere in the.

2139
03:53:08,200 --> 03:53:14,200
The vision of specific plan area to show how our new standards could create a.

2140
03:53:14,200 --> 03:53:17,200
Residential mix use concept.

2141
03:53:17,200 --> 03:53:22,200
Then the question arose says well, should we provide a site.

2142
03:53:22,200 --> 03:53:30,200
To as a demonstration location, then there's discussion should it be a privately on site or a public in the site.

2143
03:53:30,200 --> 03:53:37,200
So we chose a metropolitan station because it's city owned it provides access to the consultant to take measurements and not.

2144
03:53:37,200 --> 03:53:42,200
Not act as favoritism to some other vacant lot in the city.

2145
03:53:42,200 --> 03:53:45,200
This will be the site where.

2146
03:53:45,200 --> 03:53:47,200
A.

2147
03:53:47,200 --> 03:53:49,200
SRO mixed use.

2148
03:53:49,200 --> 03:53:54,200
Some like commercial site could be evaluate based on the set back high limit.

2149
03:53:54,200 --> 03:54:05,200
Stairs stepping of the building on how that could be envisioned to be implemented anywhere in the new tap on mixed use district or perhaps the Los Angeles Avenue corridor.

2150
03:54:06,200 --> 03:54:09,200
While there is benefit that it's also at a transit station.

2151
03:54:09,200 --> 03:54:13,200
So some of the consideration is to.

2152
03:54:13,200 --> 03:54:20,200
Build a project that could incorporate with the Metro Lincoln to transit station address parking address parking for the new.

2153
03:54:20,200 --> 03:54:22,200
Resident component.

2154
03:54:22,200 --> 03:54:24,200
It does not mean.

2155
03:54:24,200 --> 03:54:28,200
We have to build a transit project at that location.

2156
03:54:28,200 --> 03:54:34,200
The outcome would be for the consultant to identify.

2157
03:54:34,200 --> 03:54:41,200
Issues in our specific planet may require a specific on amendment to a vision to make something that's more feasible.

2158
03:54:41,200 --> 03:54:45,200
It's a trial basis. It's a concept to see how.

2159
03:54:45,200 --> 03:54:49,200
The standard of just created how effective they are and are they feasible.

2160
03:54:49,200 --> 03:54:50,200
It's not meant to.

2161
03:54:50,200 --> 03:54:52,200
Created development.

2162
03:54:52,200 --> 03:54:57,200
At Metro Lincoln per say that's more of a bonus option.

2163
03:54:57,200 --> 03:55:03,200
The deliverable would be potential suggestions on how to amend the specific plan and also the deliverables.

2164
03:55:03,200 --> 03:55:08,200
We saw it is it provides a design guideline which is a guideline not a.

2165
03:55:08,200 --> 03:55:16,200
Not an approved building or an approved code a guideline is just images.

2166
03:55:16,200 --> 03:55:19,200
Drawings which.

2167
03:55:19,200 --> 03:55:22,200
We could present to the developers on how to.

2168
03:55:22,200 --> 03:55:30,200
Implement an efficiency value on this site on another site Los Angeles Avenue tapestry any of those locations it does not.

2169
03:55:30,200 --> 03:55:37,200
Nail down this location that's how we see it.

2170
03:55:37,200 --> 03:55:42,200
Thank you for that. That would be my hope for the the outcome of this.

2171
03:55:42,200 --> 03:55:46,200
I'm just rereading that underlying part in.

2172
03:55:46,200 --> 03:55:49,200
Section three and.

2173
03:55:49,200 --> 03:55:55,200
It doesn't take our ability away but it's a strong implementation component incorporated.

2174
03:55:55,200 --> 03:56:03,200
So yeah I want to be careful shredding on this thing is once we say hey I give us funds once again we.

2175
03:56:03,200 --> 03:56:07,200
We we don't want to be committing to actually.

2176
03:56:07,200 --> 03:56:12,200
Doing something with that site yet but if it actually has the side benefits of.

2177
03:56:12,200 --> 03:56:15,200
Creating a template for our envision.

2178
03:56:15,200 --> 03:56:19,200
See me well then that's a good thing.

2179
03:56:19,200 --> 03:56:27,200
It does specifically say conceptual in fill redevelopment planning of the Metro link train station site.

2180
03:56:27,200 --> 03:56:33,200
So I'm not quite understanding how we see this as applicable anywhere else.

2181
03:56:33,200 --> 03:56:39,200
The the Metro link site is in the table mixed use district which is the same.

2182
03:56:39,200 --> 03:56:44,200
Sony in specific plan district as for example the tapestry itself.

2183
03:56:44,200 --> 03:56:49,200
So the the zoning boundaries and all the way over to the Metro link station.

2184
03:56:49,200 --> 03:56:52,200
We're just looking for a dimensional project.

2185
03:56:52,200 --> 03:56:53,200
It doesn't.

2186
03:56:53,200 --> 03:56:58,200
Which happens to be a city on property so we could kind of evaluate conditions.

2187
03:56:58,200 --> 03:57:05,200
To see how it implements like I said the setbacks high limits design theme.

2188
03:57:05,200 --> 03:57:07,200
For any sort of.

2189
03:57:07,200 --> 03:57:10,200
Mixed use project the.

2190
03:57:10,200 --> 03:57:17,200
The location in doing this proposal is secondary this is more of a convenience in a sense that.

2191
03:57:17,200 --> 03:57:22,200
The site is under our control and we wouldn't be.

2192
03:57:22,200 --> 03:57:27,200
Having to involve other property owners who have other vacant lots yes we have.

2193
03:57:27,200 --> 03:57:33,200
Several sites in the specific plan area that are due for redevelopment we didn't want to.

2194
03:57:33,200 --> 03:57:42,200
And it's to present a concept project we said let's just choose this piece of land to create this design concept.

2195
03:57:42,200 --> 03:57:46,200
Well, it is a Metro link site let's just.

2196
03:57:46,200 --> 03:57:52,200
Address park initiatives and maybe parking issues that an existing shopping center it's the same difference there's always needs.

2197
03:57:52,200 --> 03:58:01,200
But no this is not a plan we don't intend to present a plan for future adoption it's more of a concept drawing versus the.

2198
03:58:01,200 --> 03:58:06,200
Square boxes that are shown in this specific plan right now this would be more.

2199
03:58:06,200 --> 03:58:09,200
Measure it out.

2200
03:58:09,200 --> 03:58:11,200
Design.

2201
03:58:11,200 --> 03:58:21,200
If I can say one more and I'm hearing you then explain to me go to page five of the this is the contract or this is basically the.

2202
03:58:21,200 --> 03:58:28,200
What is it agreed with with the call this is what it gives you with the purposes.

2203
03:58:28,200 --> 03:58:36,200
And actionable deliverable and or action plan under three it says not with standing such acknowledgement the city agrees.

2204
03:58:36,200 --> 03:58:45,200
That the root 2.0 program developed in accordance with this MLU will be accompanied with a recommendation for adoption to its city council.

2205
03:58:45,200 --> 03:58:50,200
That's correct adoption is a number of items it could be.

2206
03:58:50,200 --> 03:58:56,200
A specific plan amendment it could be a design guideline either those will the design guideline is.

2207
03:58:56,200 --> 03:59:01,200
Not a approval of a project it is a design theme.

2208
03:59:01,200 --> 03:59:18,200
So that's that's the primary goal of it the specific plan may identify not this plan the outcome of the architects review the specific plan may come up with modifications of the specific plan to make a more effective project it doesn't mean.

2209
03:59:19,200 --> 03:59:22,200
The city has to adopt a.

2210
03:59:22,200 --> 03:59:26,200
Read development plan of the metal and stations just a concept.

2211
03:59:26,200 --> 03:59:35,200
So then one more question it's so will you restrict it I mean obviously the parking how many acres is that parking lot it's.

2212
03:59:35,200 --> 03:59:37,200
Around six.

2213
03:59:37,200 --> 03:59:47,200
And so I'm not quite seen how other parcels that applies six acres where I mean if they are going to give us something it says this is how you can develop six acres.

2214
03:59:47,200 --> 03:59:53,200
It doesn't say I'm I'm and saying that it could be used elsewhere I'm just trying to understand how.

2215
03:59:53,200 --> 03:59:56,200
How it could be applicable elsewhere.

2216
03:59:56,200 --> 03:59:59,200
Yeah we we have this one acre or half an acre or something.

2217
03:59:59,200 --> 04:00:00,200
No absolutely.

2218
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:10,000
We have the ability to make a smaller project. So is that what you're going to ask of the developer then to give us something a small scale or?

2219
04:00:10,000 --> 04:00:27,000
With the comments received tonight, we'll certainly scale a certain project. It could be a small piece. It could be a larger piece. It's not obviously six-hater acres is not necessary consistent with our sites in the city, but we also have to account for parking.

2220
04:00:27,000 --> 04:00:50,000
There's lots of factors we have to look at, but no, it's not intended to be a full-scale structure and covers the whole building. Parking would be replaced, there would be a supplemental parking analysis to determine that metropolitan painters are maintained, where where of the community events that are across the street, where this parking lot serves as an overflow. So we are aware of those factors.

2221
04:00:50,000 --> 04:01:00,000
So if it's a small building, that small building could be used as a demonstration piece for another small parcel elsewhere in the city.

2222
04:01:00,000 --> 04:01:06,000
It's just showing how envisioned works on various locations.

2223
04:01:07,000 --> 04:01:12,000
Councilmember Ailer.

2224
04:01:12,000 --> 04:01:23,000
The, I also see the strong implementation component piece in there.

2225
04:01:23,000 --> 04:01:33,000
But in addition to that, it says that we also would agree that all of these documents and the results be provided to the state.

2226
04:01:33,000 --> 04:01:44,000
And does that then, is there, is, does that open us up to the state saying you now have to build on that?

2227
04:01:44,000 --> 04:01:50,000
If they know, go ahead if someone else has a comment.

2228
04:01:50,000 --> 04:02:00,000
Councilmember Ailer, we have a, it's already zone for mixed youth, so the state has already aware of our mixed youth zoning for this designation.

2229
04:02:00,000 --> 04:02:04,000
So that's already been covered as far as the state state goes.

2230
04:02:04,000 --> 04:02:10,000
And do we, does staff have the ability to do this on their own?

2231
04:02:10,000 --> 04:02:19,000
Like if we did not have consultants to do this, does the staff have the ability to do this type of study on their own?

2232
04:02:19,000 --> 04:02:26,000
So, yes and no, staff, there's certain staff with certain expertise.

2233
04:02:26,000 --> 04:02:33,000
Sometimes we have architects on staff, sometimes we have engineers on staff.

2234
04:02:33,000 --> 04:02:45,000
The consultant funding is an option to take more of an expert, which is our remark attacks in this case with Johnson design to.

2235
04:02:45,000 --> 04:02:56,000
Design a building within a certain realm that includes mixed youth components like commercial and a certain amount of density, perhaps the second or third floor.

2236
04:02:56,000 --> 04:03:03,000
While addressing parking situations for a particular parcel.

2237
04:03:03,000 --> 04:03:07,000
Yeah, I'm just wondering if we.

2238
04:03:07,000 --> 04:03:22,000
If we need to rely on outside sources to do this study or if we had internal resources, we could do it, which means that we would then not have to sign an MOU and things like that.

2239
04:03:22,000 --> 04:03:25,000
Because it would just be an internal document and study.

2240
04:03:25,000 --> 04:03:35,000
If this bill is any fears at all on that reporting back any reprogram, it was spending Sacramento money on the it's that's how it comes through.

2241
04:03:35,000 --> 04:03:41,000
And so all of that information gets reported back and this is a way of saying, hey, we're reporting back.

2242
04:03:41,000 --> 04:03:49,000
I'm always skeptical about getting on the radar, but as pointed out, the land use is already the land use.

2243
04:03:49,000 --> 04:03:55,000
I'm seeing the value in hiring expert consultants on.

2244
04:03:55,000 --> 04:04:05,000
This taxpayer dime, but not our direct taxpayer dime to get this type of a design plan done for envision seeing me and that might move in vision see me along more quickly if we can show somebody.

2245
04:04:05,000 --> 04:04:09,000
Here look, this is what we envision in vision see me so.

2246
04:04:09,000 --> 04:04:13,000
So I'm I'm on board with this and.

2247
04:04:13,000 --> 04:04:24,000
And less skeptical now knowing that the deliverably outcome that we're going to sign off on is the actual design elements, not that we're actually accepting a plan.

2248
04:04:24,000 --> 04:04:35,000
Then what is it mean when it says the design guy the design guy line package made available to potential developers interested in developing.

2249
04:04:35,000 --> 04:04:44,000
Are you proactively going to be doing that and saying, hey, we did this now you can come develop or what how is that going to work.

2250
04:04:45,000 --> 04:04:53,000
Well, that that would be the outcome of the of the plan is to showcase the results of this project.

2251
04:04:53,000 --> 04:04:59,000
It this concept drawing is essentially a design guideline to show how.

2252
04:04:59,000 --> 04:05:10,000
The standards that we just adopted how they may be implemented in a actual building that was designed well past just the square box and the drawing in this specific plan this.

2253
04:05:10,000 --> 04:05:14,000
This has a professional architect take a look at our standards and.

2254
04:05:14,000 --> 04:05:20,000
Create a building concept that is feasible whatever the dimensions are.

2255
04:05:20,000 --> 04:05:25,000
And I guess I would love that on top of the street.

2256
04:05:25,000 --> 04:05:31,000
I'm just not sure I want it right at the train station, but you're I understand why you're saying that that's the land reason.

2257
04:05:31,000 --> 04:05:34,000
Okay, interesting.

2258
04:05:35,000 --> 04:05:42,000
I'll go ahead and move unless there's more comments on move acceptance of this item.

2259
04:05:42,000 --> 04:05:45,000
Cover the vote.

2260
04:05:52,000 --> 04:05:57,000
The motion passes with council member let's devote you know.

2261
04:05:57,000 --> 04:06:00,000
Thank you now item seven.

2262
04:06:00,000 --> 04:06:10,000
Council member let's do you wanted it pulled but council Mayor pretend judge, did you have concerns you.

2263
04:06:16,000 --> 04:06:22,000
And so your duties on VCTC on on Skag's transportation committee.

2264
04:06:22,000 --> 04:06:25,000
Electric buses.

2265
04:06:26,000 --> 04:06:35,000
We buy electric buses from a company this is the sad stories and the horror stories I've heard is cities by electric buses from companies.

2266
04:06:35,000 --> 04:06:41,000
They get the buses the buses go broke and the company is no longer in business to repair them.

2267
04:06:41,000 --> 04:06:46,000
So my concern is two things number one.

2268
04:06:46,000 --> 04:06:53,000
I know that the state is told us we can't buy am I correct in saying the state is told us we cannot buy more natural gas buses.

2269
04:06:54,000 --> 04:06:59,000
Right phase one is 25% replacement purchase.

2270
04:06:59,000 --> 04:07:02,000
So let's just say we buy six for example.

2271
04:07:02,000 --> 04:07:05,000
Our next purchase if the state or feds.

2272
04:07:05,000 --> 04:07:11,000
Change the guidance there's nothing to say we can't buy CNG for the next.

2273
04:07:11,000 --> 04:07:16,000
Because half of our fleet will be still CNG will have some portion of it electric.

2274
04:07:16,000 --> 04:07:20,000
To the funds in this proposal here cover.

2275
04:07:20,000 --> 04:07:26,000
I'm sure it has to cover putting the charging stations in and everything like that.

2276
04:07:26,000 --> 04:07:32,000
Yes, we have not this specific grandpa we have grant funding for electric charging stations.

2277
04:07:32,000 --> 04:07:33,000
Yes, we do.

2278
04:07:33,000 --> 04:07:42,000
And then for our CNG facility are we still going to run buses that use that or what happens because that was a lot of money to build that CNG facility.

2279
04:07:42,000 --> 04:07:46,000
Yeah, so we have so we have the six in the web.

2280
04:07:46,000 --> 04:07:55,000
Probably five to six CNG buses and additional eight to ten dollar advance are also CNG.

2281
04:07:55,000 --> 04:07:59,000
So at minimum our CNG facility will be in operation.

2282
04:07:59,000 --> 04:08:03,000
The useful life of those buses are at least another seven to twelve years.

2283
04:08:03,000 --> 04:08:10,000
So it'd be kind of like 50% electric six percent CNG or 50 50 I should say.

2284
04:08:10,000 --> 04:08:16,000
And have we already received those vans for the electric vans we were going to use for the dollar right system.

2285
04:08:16,000 --> 04:08:17,000
Yes.

2286
04:08:17,000 --> 04:08:18,000
How are they working?

2287
04:08:18,000 --> 04:08:22,000
We haven't put them into service yet those will be hopefully in the next.

2288
04:08:22,000 --> 04:08:24,000
Fort eight weeks.

2289
04:08:24,000 --> 04:08:26,000
This is for the micro trend of services.

2290
04:08:26,000 --> 04:08:31,000
So we did purchase portable charges and then we're putting the infrastructure in.

2291
04:08:31,000 --> 04:08:39,000
Like just similar to what we just see outside the police station smaller charging stations.

2292
04:08:39,000 --> 04:08:46,000
I know we have the money the grant money for this and the grant money expires but I I can't support this just on the fact that I.

2293
04:08:46,000 --> 04:08:53,000
I have not heard a lot of good things about electric buses.

2294
04:08:53,000 --> 04:08:55,000
Councilmember Lister.

2295
04:08:55,000 --> 04:08:59,000
So I let me understand.

2296
04:08:59,000 --> 04:09:01,000
This is a.

2297
04:09:01,000 --> 04:09:04,000
Basically it's six and a half million dollars.

2298
04:09:05,000 --> 04:09:14,000
I'm sorry eight million dollars to purchase six eight and a half million dollars to purchase six electric buses at the price of a million and a half each.

2299
04:09:14,000 --> 04:09:22,000
And I'm doing this for memory but basically we have a grant for four point something four point five million.

2300
04:09:22,000 --> 04:09:24,000
That's correct right about that.

2301
04:09:24,000 --> 04:09:33,000
And then we take we take the rest of our funds from.

2302
04:09:33,000 --> 04:09:36,000
The money that we've accumulated basically.

2303
04:09:36,000 --> 04:09:45,000
Right, that's additional local state funds that we have in for using for local met for any capital projects and also operating costs.

2304
04:09:45,000 --> 04:09:48,000
So those just so just to be clear.

2305
04:09:48,000 --> 04:09:58,000
Four and a half million are grant funds but three and a half million are funds that we already have that could be used for something else.

2306
04:09:58,000 --> 04:09:59,000
Correct.

2307
04:09:59,000 --> 04:10:05,000
The portion of that for example let's just say we bought more CNG vehicles in two years.

2308
04:10:05,000 --> 04:10:12,000
So when you buy buses it's a 80% federal 20% local state funds so you would still use 20% to fund.

2309
04:10:12,000 --> 04:10:16,000
That grant if that makes sense.

2310
04:10:16,000 --> 04:10:19,000
Now as result as it mentioned the staff report.

2311
04:10:19,000 --> 04:10:22,000
The tariffs and then increase.

2312
04:10:22,000 --> 04:10:27,000
That's what we're great to pay about half a million in tariffs with this contract.

2313
04:10:27,000 --> 04:10:28,000
Right.

2314
04:10:28,000 --> 04:10:30,000
Because it changes.

2315
04:10:30,000 --> 04:10:31,000
Right.

2316
04:10:31,000 --> 04:10:32,000
Right.

2317
04:10:32,000 --> 04:10:37,000
And as I read the contract two there's a whole price listing for for training.

2318
04:10:37,000 --> 04:10:40,000
Train to drive train to repair et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

2319
04:10:40,000 --> 04:10:47,000
Is is any of that training part of this eight million dollars or is that that's basically on on top of it if we wanted to.

2320
04:10:47,000 --> 04:10:48,000
Right.

2321
04:10:48,000 --> 04:10:54,000
Pretty much add ons like any vehicle when we buy buses or like a car.

2322
04:10:54,000 --> 04:10:57,000
If we wanted to train our mechanics or if we wanted to train.

2323
04:10:57,000 --> 04:10:59,000
Yes, the drivers how to use.

2324
04:10:59,000 --> 04:11:01,000
They'd have to we'd pay additional.

2325
04:11:01,000 --> 04:11:02,000
Right.

2326
04:11:05,000 --> 04:11:06,000
I'm kind of with you.

2327
04:11:06,000 --> 04:11:09,000
May you pretend.

2328
04:11:09,000 --> 04:11:11,000
Hmm.

2329
04:11:11,000 --> 04:11:12,000
Okay.

2330
04:11:12,000 --> 04:11:15,000
And so basically that grant.

2331
04:11:16,000 --> 04:11:19,000
If we don't use it by July first, it's gone.

2332
04:11:19,000 --> 04:11:20,000
Right.

2333
04:11:20,000 --> 04:11:21,000
Yes.

2334
04:11:21,000 --> 04:11:23,000
There's awarded in 2023.

2335
04:11:23,000 --> 04:11:25,000
And then we got another extension.

2336
04:11:25,000 --> 04:11:27,000
As the state for another extension.

2337
04:11:27,000 --> 04:11:30,000
And so we have to at least execute the contract.

2338
04:11:30,000 --> 04:11:32,000
With the manufacturer.

2339
04:11:32,000 --> 04:11:33,000
I believe.

2340
04:11:33,000 --> 04:11:36,000
June 30 or something July first year.

2341
04:11:36,000 --> 04:11:37,000
Right.

2342
04:11:37,000 --> 04:11:43,000
And the electric charging stations that we have in place or don't have a place yet.

2343
04:11:43,000 --> 04:11:44,000
We do not.

2344
04:11:45,000 --> 04:11:51,000
So for the electric vans that we've already purchased that we're that are not yet in it.

2345
04:11:51,000 --> 04:11:53,000
The charging stations.

2346
04:11:53,000 --> 04:11:56,000
Are going to be placed where out of it.

2347
04:11:56,000 --> 04:11:59,000
Are they going to be here at the corner or are they.

2348
04:11:59,000 --> 04:12:00,000
Yeah.

2349
04:12:00,000 --> 04:12:01,000
PSE.

2350
04:12:01,000 --> 04:12:02,000
Okay.

2351
04:12:02,000 --> 04:12:03,000
Right.

2352
04:12:03,000 --> 04:12:05,000
And so those.

2353
04:12:05,000 --> 04:12:08,000
Charging stations will be put in place whether or not.

2354
04:12:08,000 --> 04:12:10,000
We buy these buses.

2355
04:12:10,000 --> 04:12:11,000
Right.

2356
04:12:11,000 --> 04:12:20,000
If they don't be a worker that is taken from the man's but also as side note we also did.

2357
04:12:20,000 --> 04:12:23,000
As the federal transit administration.

2358
04:12:23,000 --> 04:12:24,000
For grant funding.

2359
04:12:24,000 --> 04:12:27,000
For the over infrastructure to charge.

2360
04:12:27,000 --> 04:12:29,000
Six vehicles.

2361
04:12:29,000 --> 04:12:30,000
It's different charging.

2362
04:12:30,000 --> 04:12:33,000
They don't they're not interchangeable.

2363
04:12:33,000 --> 04:12:38,000
Is what you're saying right now.

2364
04:12:38,000 --> 04:12:44,000
also secured funding to charge the six buses by the federal transit administration.

2365
04:12:44,000 --> 04:12:47,000
So that's also grant that we rewarded as well.

2366
04:12:47,000 --> 04:12:49,000
Okay.

2367
04:12:49,000 --> 04:12:55,000
And just to clarify, Ben, if we do not accept the funding and do not withdraw with this contract,

2368
04:12:55,000 --> 04:12:59,000
then we would not be meeting those zero-mission regulations.

2369
04:12:59,000 --> 04:13:00,000
Is that correct?

2370
04:13:00,000 --> 04:13:01,000
Correct.

2371
04:13:01,000 --> 04:13:02,000
And what is the penalty?

2372
04:13:02,000 --> 04:13:03,000
I'm sorry?

2373
04:13:03,000 --> 04:13:06,000
What is the penalty if we don't meet that?

2374
04:13:06,000 --> 04:13:07,000
I'm not sure.

2375
04:13:07,000 --> 04:13:10,000
Postal grant funding could be withheld.

2376
04:13:10,000 --> 04:13:15,000
We have a replacement bus schedule that's due next year.

2377
04:13:15,000 --> 04:13:22,000
So hypothetical, let's say, if we didn't have, if we forgot, let these grants funding go by the state,

2378
04:13:22,000 --> 04:13:24,000
then we would have to reapply.

2379
04:13:24,000 --> 04:13:30,000
And you know, that's the submit look into if the state would allow us to buy.

2380
04:13:31,000 --> 04:13:32,000
Okay.

2381
04:13:32,000 --> 04:13:34,000
Seeing you vehicle, right now as it's written.

2382
04:13:34,000 --> 04:13:36,000
You have to have your replacement vehicles.

2383
04:13:36,000 --> 04:13:37,000
That's the Missouri Mission.

2384
04:13:37,000 --> 04:13:40,000
Whether it's hydrogen or electric.

2385
04:13:40,000 --> 04:13:42,000
So it's not that we can go back and buy.

2386
04:13:42,000 --> 04:13:45,000
Seeing you at least at the moment.

2387
04:13:45,000 --> 04:13:51,000
And then we have aging fleet that we have to replace.

2388
04:13:51,000 --> 04:13:54,000
Councilmember Rhodes.

2389
04:13:54,000 --> 04:13:56,000
Thank you, Mayor.

2390
04:13:56,000 --> 04:13:59,000
So I'm going to quote from a different,

2391
04:13:59,000 --> 04:14:02,000
staff report, but I've heard it said many times.

2392
04:14:02,000 --> 04:14:08,000
And so now we can actually say that's the last time we get to use this saying when we're talking about transit.

2393
04:14:08,000 --> 04:14:13,000
And it says, quote, the city's transit operations are entirely funded by federal and state resources.

2394
04:14:13,000 --> 04:14:16,000
So it is crucial to maintain compliance with funding requirements.

2395
04:14:16,000 --> 04:14:23,000
I am hearing we are now just buying buses, but we have to come over their own 20% funding.

2396
04:14:23,000 --> 04:14:31,000
And that there's basically two and a half million dollars of ask in here from what could be other infrastructure projects.

2397
04:14:31,000 --> 04:14:36,000
And taking these buses, which I'm going to recommend that we do.

2398
04:14:36,000 --> 04:14:39,000
But I don't necessarily recommend that we put them in operation.

2399
04:14:39,000 --> 04:14:45,000
I think there'll be some other cities someday that we'll go, hey, we'd really like to have some low-mile electric buses.

2400
04:14:45,000 --> 04:14:48,000
And we can sell them to them at a really nice price.

2401
04:14:48,000 --> 04:14:51,000
So we go back to buying buses that work.

2402
04:14:51,000 --> 04:15:00,000
The other thing about infrastructure money or other project money that would be needed to buy these buses is that those.

2403
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:23,000
Social electric buses, ways substantially more than a conventional bus, and they're going to put more wear and tear on the roads, and it's going to be an additional infrastructure cost for us. I hate the idea of trying to implement fail, unproven technology that's going to increase the expense of infrastructure replacement.

2404
04:15:23,000 --> 04:15:43,000
But I don't want to lose federal funding. And if in my mind that what's making this only acceptable to me is that I look at those buses as a bank account, that I'm going to sell those off to somebody else when, you know, people get their heads on straight and go, this technology doesn't actually work.

2405
04:15:43,000 --> 04:15:55,000
Is it possible to only buy five buses spend less of our own money and still be in compliance and use that grant money?

2406
04:15:55,000 --> 04:16:04,000
I have to check. So when we competed for the grant, we did say six vehicles. I don't know that answer if we could ask the state to buy less.

2407
04:16:04,000 --> 04:16:10,000
And that may be so that we could do because of the unfortunate increase cost of the tariffs as an example.

2408
04:16:10,000 --> 04:16:16,000
I would like to buy as few as possible to maintain our funding level.

2409
04:16:16,000 --> 04:16:32,000
And then see if we can actually come up with a competent go here and plan moving forward that takes into account what's being once again rammed on our throats, but this path forward is just silly.

2410
04:16:32,000 --> 04:16:42,000
And it's not you. I'm frustrated and you're hearing it, but this is just tying up funds on a failed thing.

2411
04:16:42,000 --> 04:16:59,000
It's somebody at some point, as to say the emperor has no clothes. And maybe now is not the time to pull the rug out because we don't want to lose that federal funding, but this is this is frustrating.

2412
04:17:00,000 --> 04:17:01,000
Council member Ayala?

2413
04:17:03,000 --> 04:17:12,000
From a practical perspective, if we don't take these buses, how does it affect the city operations for transit?

2414
04:17:12,000 --> 04:17:18,000
The vehicles that we're trying to replace next year are aging.

2415
04:17:18,000 --> 04:17:23,000
There are 500,000 miles in our useful life is roughly 12 years.

2416
04:17:23,000 --> 04:17:31,000
We're going to be hitting the 12 year mark next year and then our increased maintenance costs will go up.

2417
04:17:31,000 --> 04:17:35,000
We'll be replacing transmissions, engines, things as that nature.

2418
04:17:35,000 --> 04:17:41,000
So then we'll have to seek additional funding to put bandies on aging fleet.

2419
04:17:41,000 --> 04:17:50,000
Or from now you'll be coming back to us asking for approving of other buses anyway.

2420
04:17:50,000 --> 04:17:53,000
Right, you replace the ones that you need.

2421
04:17:53,000 --> 04:18:01,000
Right. But the hard part would be is the state saying, well, federal, we're going to get the money from.

2422
04:18:01,000 --> 04:18:04,000
You have to buy, we're not giving you grants, you don't buy zero emission buses.

2423
04:18:04,000 --> 04:18:05,000
Yeah.

2424
04:18:05,000 --> 04:18:07,000
Whether it's hydrogen or electric.

2425
04:18:07,000 --> 04:18:13,000
So that's like, we're stuck between a rock and a hard place essentially.

2426
04:18:13,000 --> 04:18:16,000
Mayor Protem, Judge.

2427
04:18:16,000 --> 04:18:17,000
Thank you.

2428
04:18:17,000 --> 04:18:19,000
I don't want to be the dead of where so a lot.

2429
04:18:19,000 --> 04:18:23,000
But I don't want to come off as fact that I'm against the zero emissions concept.

2430
04:18:23,000 --> 04:18:26,000
I'm against the concept that doesn't work.

2431
04:18:26,000 --> 04:18:29,000
And electric buses don't work.

2432
04:18:29,000 --> 04:18:32,000
Hydrogen is a emerging technology.

2433
04:18:32,000 --> 04:18:36,000
It's not there yet, but this technology as a bus has never been there.

2434
04:18:36,000 --> 04:18:38,000
For cars, it's fine.

2435
04:18:38,000 --> 04:18:42,000
And again, if your car breaks down, the city's not dependent on your car.

2436
04:18:42,000 --> 04:18:45,000
But the city's going to be dependent on these buses.

2437
04:18:46,000 --> 04:18:48,000
Yeah, yeah, I got it.

2438
04:18:48,000 --> 04:18:53,000
But I don't also don't want to put us in a bind where we're not going to be able to receive

2439
04:18:53,000 --> 04:18:57,000
monies from the state or the feds in the future.

2440
04:18:57,000 --> 04:19:02,000
I just wish there was a way we could put this on hold until either a technology comes online

2441
04:19:02,000 --> 04:19:07,000
that works or cooler heads emerge.

2442
04:19:07,000 --> 04:19:13,000
And once we get them, there are, as nobody's going to buy these.

2443
04:19:14,000 --> 04:19:24,000
Could we, and I'm hearing all this conversation, could then can you go back to them and say, OK, this was our original grant money.

2444
04:19:24,000 --> 04:19:29,000
But the costs have gone up substantially since we applied for it.

2445
04:19:29,000 --> 04:19:34,000
And can we, can you ask about a minimal order to satisfy the grant?

2446
04:19:34,000 --> 04:19:39,000
Maybe it's four buses, three buses, whatever, because our contribution is still substantial.

2447
04:19:39,000 --> 04:19:45,000
And that's money that can be used for, if I'm not mistaken, it's a part of it can be used for salaries.

2448
04:19:45,000 --> 04:19:48,000
It's part of our transportation, et cetera.

2449
04:19:48,000 --> 04:19:52,000
And it's also part of, you know, other other uses.

2450
04:19:52,000 --> 04:19:57,000
Whatever, that funds, 720, 750, 750.

2451
04:19:57,000 --> 04:19:58,000
So, thank you.

2452
04:19:58,000 --> 04:20:03,000
So, I mean, obviously, we have to do the matching part to, to, to, to.

2453
04:20:03,000 --> 04:20:06,000
And if I'm understanding our match is.

2454
04:20:06,000 --> 04:20:10,000
There are four and a half million, we're three and a half million to be able to come to six.

2455
04:20:10,000 --> 04:20:17,000
What is their requirement? Is it a two to one match, a one to one match, what was that, what were the terms of that grant?

2456
04:20:17,000 --> 04:20:26,000
Well, I think, I mean, at the time we applied for six, you know, hoping to get four and a half million dollars in the prices gone up.

2457
04:20:26,000 --> 04:20:31,000
So, I don't see why we can go back to the state and ask and say, look.

2458
04:20:31,000 --> 04:20:34,000
We, back then, we would like six with four and a half now increase.

2459
04:20:34,000 --> 04:20:37,000
So, we want to use a four and a half to buy.

2460
04:20:37,000 --> 04:20:38,000
Whatever.

2461
04:20:38,000 --> 04:20:39,000
For example.

2462
04:20:39,000 --> 04:20:42,000
And so, at the time, was it to purchase the full price of the bus?

2463
04:20:42,000 --> 04:20:44,000
It was an estimated cost on the vendor at the time.

2464
04:20:44,000 --> 04:20:48,000
So, when we got the quotas, probably in 2022 or so.

2465
04:20:48,000 --> 04:20:49,000
Interesting.

2466
04:20:49,000 --> 04:20:51,000
And here we are three years later.

2467
04:20:51,000 --> 04:20:52,000
So.

2468
04:20:52,000 --> 04:20:55,000
Right.

2469
04:20:55,000 --> 04:21:00,000
14 to 22 months.

2470
04:21:00,000 --> 04:21:02,000
Hopefully. Yes.

2471
04:21:02,000 --> 04:21:07,000
So, is that could we maybe table this item to the next.

2472
04:21:07,000 --> 04:21:10,000
Next week or next meeting.

2473
04:21:10,000 --> 04:21:13,000
And as you do that research to find out if.

2474
04:21:13,000 --> 04:21:18,000
What might be acceptable for the with the grant funds, whether we could maybe.

2475
04:21:18,000 --> 04:21:20,000
Lower our purchase.

2476
04:21:20,000 --> 04:21:22,000
And then bring it back before us.

2477
04:21:22,000 --> 04:21:23,000
Is that something maybe.

2478
04:21:23,000 --> 04:21:25,000
My colleagues would be in favor.

2479
04:21:25,000 --> 04:21:27,000
Can we just set.

2480
04:21:27,000 --> 04:21:31,000
Can we just set that as the direction of attempt to buy less?

2481
04:21:31,000 --> 04:21:33,000
Because I don't want to miss out on the.

2482
04:21:33,000 --> 04:21:35,000
I think we're coming up against a window.

2483
04:21:35,000 --> 04:21:36,000
Right.

2484
04:21:36,000 --> 04:21:38,000
And so, I would say let's.

2485
04:21:38,000 --> 04:21:41,000
Set it with the direction of attempt to buy less.

2486
04:21:41,000 --> 04:21:42,000
To meet the.

2487
04:21:42,000 --> 04:21:44,000
And if not.

2488
04:21:44,000 --> 04:21:46,000
We authorize and then it doesn't have to come back to us.

2489
04:21:46,000 --> 04:21:48,000
But we set the direction.

2490
04:21:48,000 --> 04:21:50,000
Does that meet.

2491
04:21:50,000 --> 04:21:51,000
I think that would be fine.

2492
04:21:51,000 --> 04:21:54,000
And just as a reminder to the council, the next meeting that we have on the agenda.

2493
04:21:55,000 --> 04:21:57,000
The budget meeting.

2494
04:21:57,000 --> 04:22:00,000
So that will be on the primary topic.

2495
04:22:00,000 --> 04:22:02,000
The June 9 meeting.

2496
04:22:02,000 --> 04:22:06,000
And there was already a pretty substantial amount of consent calendar items on that agenda.

2497
04:22:06,000 --> 04:22:08,000
I'm trying to keep it light on everything else.

2498
04:22:08,000 --> 04:22:11,000
But just for the council's information.

2499
04:22:15,000 --> 04:22:17,000
To have a motion.

2500
04:22:18,000 --> 04:22:29,000
So I moved the consent calendar with the amendment of consent item seven with the amendment of please.

2501
04:22:29,000 --> 04:22:34,000
By as little as possible to meet our obligations for the.

2502
04:22:34,000 --> 04:22:36,000
Funding.

2503
04:22:36,000 --> 04:22:44,000
And if a friendly amendment that might be to you that we would like issue you we would like to use the grant and full without having to put.

2504
04:22:45,000 --> 04:22:46,000
The legal funds to it.

2505
04:22:46,000 --> 04:22:52,000
So whatever buses that will purchase without our would be our would be our preference.

2506
04:22:52,000 --> 04:22:54,000
Is that a second.

2507
04:22:54,000 --> 04:22:56,000
That's.

2508
04:22:56,000 --> 04:22:58,000
You amended amendment.

2509
04:22:58,000 --> 04:22:59,000
Yeah.

2510
04:22:59,000 --> 04:23:00,000
I think so I need to clear.

2511
04:23:00,000 --> 04:23:02,000
What the motion is.

2512
04:23:02,000 --> 04:23:03,000
Why Councilman, Lissard, why should you just.

2513
04:23:03,000 --> 04:23:05,000
Make the event or make the motion.

2514
04:23:05,000 --> 04:23:08,000
I withdraw money.

2515
04:23:08,000 --> 04:23:09,000
Okay.

2516
04:23:09,000 --> 04:23:16,000
We go forward with this bus purchase, but only using the grant funds to purchase as much

2517
04:23:16,000 --> 04:23:21,000
bus as we can without having to put additional city funds.

2518
04:23:21,000 --> 04:23:23,000
We have to use the two and a half.

2519
04:23:23,000 --> 04:23:24,000
We don't have a choice.

2520
04:23:24,000 --> 04:23:26,000
Correct?

2521
04:23:26,000 --> 04:23:29,000
There's we have to.

2522
04:23:29,000 --> 04:23:35,000
If we're unable to amend how many buses we can buy, then yes we will have to supplement

2523
04:23:35,000 --> 04:23:38,000
with the fund $750.

2524
04:23:38,000 --> 04:23:39,000
Right.

2525
04:23:39,000 --> 04:23:44,000
So if we're able to amend how many buses we can buy, then that could impact the amount of money

2526
04:23:44,000 --> 04:23:46,000
that we have to take from fund $750.

2527
04:23:46,000 --> 04:23:50,000
But just as a reminder, the council that is also not general fund dollars.

2528
04:23:50,000 --> 04:23:53,000
So and it's 20% no matter what.

2529
04:23:53,000 --> 04:23:54,000
Right.

2530
04:23:54,000 --> 04:23:55,000
So.

2531
04:23:55,000 --> 04:23:58,000
But so in 20% though, a four and a half.

2532
04:23:58,000 --> 04:23:59,000
Right.

2533
04:23:59,000 --> 04:24:00,000
Is less.

2534
04:24:00,000 --> 04:24:01,000
Yeah.

2535
04:24:01,000 --> 04:24:02,000
800 thousand dollars.

2536
04:24:02,000 --> 04:24:03,000
I just want to make sure that.

2537
04:24:03,000 --> 04:24:04,000
Right.

2538
04:24:04,000 --> 04:24:05,000
Right.

2539
04:24:05,000 --> 04:24:10,000
Because if if staff is unable to amend how many buses that they're able to buy, then I don't.

2540
04:24:10,000 --> 04:24:14,000
I want to make sure it's clear to staff that they can still move forward.

2541
04:24:14,000 --> 04:24:15,000
Okay.

2542
04:24:15,000 --> 04:24:16,000
Sure.

2543
04:24:16,000 --> 04:24:17,000
Okay.

2544
04:24:17,000 --> 04:24:18,000
Thank you.

2545
04:24:18,000 --> 04:24:19,000
Call for the vote.

2546
04:24:19,000 --> 04:24:31,000
The motion passes with Mayor Potem, Judge Voting, no.

2547
04:24:31,000 --> 04:24:32,000
Thank you.

2548
04:24:32,000 --> 04:24:40,000
Madam Mayor and members of the City Council next on agenda is item eight.

2549
04:24:40,000 --> 04:24:44,000
A second reading of ordinance number 1363.

2550
04:24:44,000 --> 04:24:51,000
This establishing a schedule of sanitation fees and charges and repealing ordinance number 1300.

2551
04:24:51,000 --> 04:24:53,000
The reading of the ordinance is as follows.

2552
04:24:53,000 --> 04:24:55,000
Ordnance number 1363.

2553
04:24:55,000 --> 04:25:00,000
In order to the City Council of the City of City Valley, the establishing a schedule of sanitation fees and charges and

2554
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:10,000
repealing ordinance number 1300.

2555
04:25:10,000 --> 04:25:13,000
Mayor Potem, Judge.

2556
04:25:13,000 --> 04:25:16,000
I will move the.

2557
04:25:16,000 --> 04:25:17,000
Second reading.

2558
04:25:17,000 --> 04:25:23,000
I was hoping to make a comment before motion.

2559
04:25:23,000 --> 04:25:25,000
But remember, let's say first.

2560
04:25:25,000 --> 04:25:26,000
Thank you.

2561
04:25:26,000 --> 04:25:34,000
First of all, I want to apologize in behalf of the list of family for denigrating Mr. Council member Ayala.

2562
04:25:34,000 --> 04:25:42,000
So I just want to be very clear that I was completely out of line and I almost don't even want to address this issue because I'm so mad at Mr.

2563
04:25:42,000 --> 04:25:48,000
Letster because I was in it completely inappropriate and wrong.

2564
04:25:48,000 --> 04:25:53,000
I wanted to clarify because as you know, I was in no vote last time.

2565
04:25:53,000 --> 04:25:55,000
And I thought I wasn't clear for the reason.

2566
04:25:55,000 --> 04:25:59,000
So I just would like to go on the record to clarify that vote because I am going to vote no again.

2567
04:25:59,000 --> 04:26:05,000
But I want to make sure that people understand that I believe providing effective sewer service is critical.

2568
04:26:05,000 --> 04:26:08,000
And I commend the work being done by our public works department.

2569
04:26:08,000 --> 04:26:18,000
And basically they're engaged in replacing aging infrastructure to make sure as Mr. Fujiwaki explained that our sewer system is operational for 50 to 100 years to come.

2570
04:26:18,000 --> 04:26:24,000
It's super important to get done and this is a major capital work project.

2571
04:26:24,000 --> 04:26:28,000
Last time Mayor Cavan I mentioned that people in the past would paid all along.

2572
04:26:28,000 --> 04:26:30,000
It's only if you had to continue that system.

2573
04:26:30,000 --> 04:26:43,000
I thought was thinking about that comment and I don't disagree but I do think it was a bit different because I believe that originally the sewer infrastructure was paid for by developers as they built and developed neighborhoods.

2574
04:26:43,000 --> 04:26:47,000
And so likely that cost was included in the house purchase price etc.

2575
04:26:48,000 --> 04:26:57,000
So basically if the entire cost is 71.7 million dollars to complete these 49 capital improvement projects.

2576
04:26:57,000 --> 04:27:11,000
Once this work is done in the next four or five years whatever, we will basically in the last 10 years have raised rates 62.5% on our residents to do that improvement.

2577
04:27:11,000 --> 04:27:24,000
And because basically as a vendor standard we're going forward this is for five years at 17 at 3.5% which is 17.5% in the next five years.

2578
04:27:24,000 --> 04:27:35,000
I am a believer that when you have important capital works projects the cost of the project should be amortized and shared over the life of the project and born by all those who will be enjoying its benefit.

2579
04:27:35,000 --> 04:27:53,000
So recognizing many of our seniors will not be around to enjoy it and our fixed incomes I believe we should use our outstanding credit rating to secure capital improvement bond to more fairly distribute the cost over the life of this project and not unduly burden our residents today.

2580
04:27:54,000 --> 04:28:05,000
So that's my vote no and it's interesting if we did have if we went out and had the bond funds now we could actually do the whole renovation project now and not have to scatter over handful of years.

2581
04:28:05,000 --> 04:28:11,000
And it's my understanding that long term assets should be finance long term.

2582
04:28:12,000 --> 04:28:32,000
And we're doing it kind of backwards in fact it's interesting I just so I went on Google because I was kind of curious to see what how they recommended funding infrastructure not not not Google I went on the internet just because I was kind of curious and this is the first in the came up it says.

2583
04:28:32,000 --> 04:28:43,000
What's common and effective way to finance sewer infrastructure projects is through municipal bonds these bonds allow utilities to borrow large sums at relatively low interest rates.

2584
04:28:43,000 --> 04:28:58,000
Often with repayment periods of 30 to 50 years so anyway I just want you to want to go on the record why I'm going to choose to be voting no but I do think that the projects critical important needs to go forward and so if there was a way we could revisit way we pay for it.

2585
04:28:58,000 --> 04:29:04,000
I'm certainly in favor of that and also as was mentioned by proctm and proctm.

2586
04:29:04,000 --> 04:29:09,000
I judge I think it's worthy looking at further at whether we should.

2587
04:29:09,000 --> 04:29:13,000
To Frédic or do you some tier pricing if they are 80 is involved.

2588
04:29:13,000 --> 04:29:18,000
This I'm sorry yeah this is a second reading so I understand.

2589
04:29:18,000 --> 04:29:27,000
So I'm just I'm just I'm just putting that out there the options obviously are to go forward and vote yes or to vote no or to or to table for future conversation.

2590
04:29:27,000 --> 04:29:30,000
Okay I'm here for a time judge.

2591
04:29:30,000 --> 04:29:36,000
I moved to adopt ordinance number 13 63 second.

2592
04:29:36,000 --> 04:29:43,000
Coffee vote.

2593
04:29:43,000 --> 04:29:48,000
Motion passes with council member let's to voting now.

2594
04:29:48,000 --> 04:29:51,000
Now can we talk about Greg some more.

2595
04:29:51,000 --> 04:29:54,000
If you need to.

2596
04:29:54,000 --> 04:29:58,000
You may remember to see the council next in your agenda is item 10 a council member reports.

2597
04:29:58,000 --> 04:30:00,000
Council member reports.

2598
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:03,720
Thank you very much. Council member Ayala.

2599
04:30:03,720 --> 04:30:12,120
On May 7th, I went to the Thrive Grove Ribbon Cutting Ceremony, which was the new transitional housing

2600
04:30:12,120 --> 04:30:18,400
development in Thousand Oaks. On Thursday, May 8th, I went to the volunteer training for the

2601
04:30:18,400 --> 04:30:24,040
traveling Veterans Memorial Wall, which is coming this weekend. I'm going to be helping to actually

2602
04:30:24,040 --> 04:30:32,400
set it up on Friday. On Friday, May 9th, I went to the chamber breakfast. Saturday, May 10th,

2603
04:30:32,400 --> 04:30:40,240
I went to the punchathon fundraiser, and I guess I won part of their raffle. On Monday, May 12th,

2604
04:30:40,240 --> 04:30:47,360
I, along with Council member Littester and some of the staff went on a tour of the shooting

2605
04:30:47,360 --> 04:30:55,480
range. They taught us all about what goes on up there. On the 13th, again, with Council member Littester,

2606
04:30:55,480 --> 04:31:01,120
we did the ADA Paratransit Committee interview. We met a great lady who we think will be an amazing

2607
04:31:01,120 --> 04:31:08,560
addition to the team. Also on the 13th, I attended the Azum, the public discussion for the phase 1

2608
04:31:08,560 --> 04:31:17,000
ground water cleanup of the field lab. On the 15th, I went to the Ventura County Animal

2609
04:31:17,000 --> 04:31:26,160
Shelter Committee meeting, which was chaired by our mayor. I learned that in 2024, 80, 800 animals

2610
04:31:26,160 --> 04:31:34,560
were taken in by the shelter, 8,800, which is crazy to think about. On the 15th, as well, Mayor

2611
04:31:34,560 --> 04:31:41,760
Protem, Judge and I attended the PTA Honoraries Awards, Service Awards, and represented

2612
04:31:41,760 --> 04:31:47,920
recognition certificates to three of the main honorees. On Friday, the 16th, I went to the teen

2613
04:31:47,920 --> 04:31:53,800
wellness night, which the youth council presented today that showed that they had over 300 attendees.

2614
04:31:53,800 --> 04:32:05,320
Thank you. Council member Rhodes, you should be sure you had a town. Thank you, Madam Mayor,

2615
04:32:05,320 --> 04:32:13,480
on Tuesday, May 6th, I left for China, came back last night. 7 seconds. There you go.

2616
04:32:13,480 --> 04:32:20,920
Appreciate that. Council member Littester. Well, I'll be happy to use all your extra time. No,

2617
04:32:21,000 --> 04:32:29,080
I won't. It is late. May 5th, Monday, May 5th, I did take an extensive tour of the waste

2618
04:32:29,080 --> 04:32:36,040
management of the landfill, and that was very instructive. On Wednesday, May 7th, I did meet with Mr.

2619
04:32:36,040 --> 04:32:41,080
Tony Teege of Enzo Verde and Michael and Dennis, who are very concerned about trying to get

2620
04:32:41,080 --> 04:32:46,680
bring that project to fruition, and they are looking for secondary access, and so there may be

2621
04:32:46,680 --> 04:32:52,200
further discussion in this body about if we are it's appropriate to help them. On Thursday,

2622
04:32:52,200 --> 04:33:07,000
May 8th, I attended a systems police academy. On Sunday, May 11th, it was a mother's day, and I was

2623
04:33:07,000 --> 04:33:15,160
part of Simi Valley community orchestra put on their very first fundraiser event to celebrate

2624
04:33:17,000 --> 04:33:21,400
the culture and celebrate mothers, and it was a really beautiful event, and I want to thank

2625
04:33:21,400 --> 04:33:26,920
Rancho Simi for basically opening this and strather, historical part, robbing their doors and

2626
04:33:26,920 --> 04:33:33,320
allowing them to perform there and do a beautiful event as their first concert ever. They've played for

2627
04:33:33,320 --> 04:33:40,200
things, but that was their first official concert. On Monday, May 12th, attended the council on

2628
04:33:40,200 --> 04:33:48,040
aging, and also at the Shooting Range Tour, which was very instructive. May 13th, I appreciated having

2629
04:33:48,040 --> 04:33:54,280
the opportunity to meet with our city attorney, Alford, and also do those 88 committee interviews,

2630
04:33:54,280 --> 04:34:00,280
very interesting. As mentioned, also attended the Samson and Field Water Ground Water Study.

2631
04:34:00,280 --> 04:34:05,960
It was interesting. One of my takeaways is that basically, this is phase 1, and they're trying

2632
04:34:05,960 --> 04:34:14,280
to decide where the best ways to look at three, a 53 wells, and they involve, basically,

2633
04:34:16,120 --> 04:34:21,960
monitoring natural attenuation was part of what they want to do, and there was some real backlash on that

2634
04:34:21,960 --> 04:34:27,480
suggesting that that's just let's watch it further and see what happens. It was a very instructive

2635
04:34:27,480 --> 04:34:36,520
event, and I believe, anyway, and so it was very instructive. On Wednesday, May 14th, I attended the

2636
04:34:36,520 --> 04:34:43,720
wildfire and PSP preseason briefing for local and tribal government put on by Southern California,

2637
04:34:43,720 --> 04:34:54,120
Edison, and I think that Mayor Prokton, Judge Mabel, also been there. Yeah. A couple of things,

2638
04:34:54,120 --> 04:34:59,400
and my takeaways, and you may have a lot more to add. Of course, they talked about what they did,

2639
04:34:59,400 --> 04:35:05,240
and of course, they shared the why we have to do this because they won patrol observed 95 instances of

2640
04:35:05,240 --> 04:35:10,760
damage on de-energized lines, and that's why it's so critical. But one of the things they talked about,

2641
04:35:10,760 --> 04:35:16,280
their actions, of course, we know about covered conductors, fire-resistant polls, protective devices,

2642
04:35:16,280 --> 04:35:21,800
one of the things that they're now experimenting is with rapid earth, fault, current limitters

2643
04:35:21,880 --> 04:35:26,920
that are used in Australia, and supposedly it just shuts that, shuts off. And so I'm hoping that

2644
04:35:26,920 --> 04:35:33,320
we can, if it works in Australia, that we can get them here, so we don't have to keep doing our PSPS events.

2645
04:35:34,280 --> 04:35:40,760
One of the things that I will ask, maybe our CM Manager, is it be sure that they encourage that

2646
04:35:41,320 --> 04:35:47,800
how to deal with PSPS events, need to be part of the city's emergency preparation plan. And so

2647
04:35:47,800 --> 04:35:54,120
I just think it's interesting that they want this to be basically internalized into something that's

2648
04:35:54,120 --> 04:35:58,440
going to be normal, whether it's an earthquake, there's earthquakes, there's fires, and there's PSPS events,

2649
04:35:58,440 --> 04:36:03,480
and it should just be part of it. Anyway, I just, the temporary solution is becoming permanent. That's why

2650
04:36:03,480 --> 04:36:09,000
I did that, and that was, that was a little bothersome to me. So anyway, so that was that

2651
04:36:09,000 --> 04:36:18,360
I'm meeting that we attended. On Thursday, May 15th, I did attend the Mall Merchants Meeting and

2652
04:36:18,360 --> 04:36:26,120
their great bunch of merchants that are there, and I'm hopeful that it developed the remote mobile

2653
04:36:26,120 --> 04:36:33,080
four in a possible way. Did a heart demo for Bonavista? I attended the V-Cogs Board meeting. It was where

2654
04:36:33,080 --> 04:36:39,240
we actually said goodbye to Hugh Riley, who has been the Executive Director of V-Cog for many years,

2655
04:36:39,240 --> 04:36:46,120
handful of years, and he will be missed. He was very effective at what he was leading us. What also came

2656
04:36:46,120 --> 04:36:50,600
out of the meeting, and I will send each of you a link to it. But basically, they finally finished

2657
04:36:50,600 --> 04:36:56,840
the Regional Broadband Initiative, which is this document, which talks about really how they're going

2658
04:36:57,080 --> 04:37:02,600
how we can connect the entire county to be, I mean, I mean, obviously it's going to be lies ahead

2659
04:37:02,600 --> 04:37:10,120
with it. It's broadband initiative, but it's a way to connect the entire county into certain levels of

2660
04:37:10,120 --> 04:37:18,760
broadband throughout. Anyway, I'll send that to you, and you can take a look at it. I also graduated.

2661
04:37:18,760 --> 04:37:26,040
Thank you, Mayor Kavanaugh, who's there in attendance, who gave me my pin. I graduated the Citizens

2662
04:37:26,040 --> 04:37:32,040
Place Academy, and it was very instructive. I appreciate the chief encouraging you to be part of that,

2663
04:37:32,040 --> 04:37:36,520
because it really was lots of great things to learn and that it was just very instructive.

2664
04:37:38,360 --> 04:37:43,000
The only other thing that I wanted to mention, Saturday, May 17, there was a Veterans Resource Fair

2665
04:37:43,000 --> 04:37:48,360
that I attended over at Royal High School. It was just phenomenal that I wish there were more attendance.

2666
04:37:48,360 --> 04:37:53,400
So I think, but it was the first time it's been there, and it's first time they have it a walk for

2667
04:37:53,400 --> 04:38:00,040
Nami, which is the organization that fights, mental illness, et cetera. They did it, walking around

2668
04:38:00,040 --> 04:38:05,320
the Royal Track. I first time it's ever been an East Venture County, and so I'm hopeful that we get even

2669
04:38:05,320 --> 04:38:10,360
better support and it can be very successful in the future. And that ends my report.

2670
04:38:12,360 --> 04:38:16,840
Thank you, Mayor Pragem, Judge. Thank you. I'll try to make it quick. I first want to make a

2671
04:38:16,840 --> 04:38:21,720
correction on my colleagues. It is not the shooting range. It is a semi-valid police training facility.

2672
04:38:22,600 --> 04:38:27,000
That is it's name. Just like we don't call the dump a dump anymore. And we don't call them all

2673
04:38:27,000 --> 04:38:35,000
a mall anymore. It is a semi-valid police training facility. That being said, on Wednesday, I had to

2674
04:38:35,800 --> 04:38:40,440
met with waste management over concerns and questions of citizens about the landfill and the

2675
04:38:40,440 --> 04:38:45,560
products going into it. And again, I got basically the same briefing we had tonight, it was very,

2676
04:38:45,560 --> 04:38:52,040
very comprehensive, and I've heard it a lot now. So I can almost recite it verbatim.

2677
04:38:52,760 --> 04:38:56,840
On Friday, May 9th, I attended a VCT meeting where I have to point out a couple of things that was done

2678
04:38:56,840 --> 04:39:02,040
at that meeting. Number one, you'd be glad to know that during VCTs used 25, 26 unmet transit needs

2679
04:39:03,240 --> 04:39:09,160
survey, they found no unmet transit needs in the County Ventura. So that's great.

2680
04:39:09,160 --> 04:39:17,720
And the outreach was extensive. We also had action against, we're going to be removing all the

2681
04:39:17,720 --> 04:39:23,960
call boxes on our VCTs responsibilities, which is all the highways and Ventura County. So I'm here to

2682
04:39:23,960 --> 04:39:28,200
mention, in case people don't know, that if you're on the road and your car breaks down, instead of calling

2683
04:39:28,200 --> 04:39:34,440
9-1, use yourself when to call 5-1. 5-1 is what you call for the emergency roadside assistance that we provide

2684
04:39:34,440 --> 04:39:45,800
through VCTs on all County highways. On Thursday, May 15th, as we're spoken by Councilman

2685
04:39:45,800 --> 04:39:51,400
Raila, me and him attended the PTA, PTSA Council Honorary Service Awards. That was a fun night.

2686
04:39:51,400 --> 04:39:55,320
I had it at Larson's and it was very nice. I'm very happy to see all the recipients to

2687
04:39:55,320 --> 04:40:01,320
got awards, and I was proud to provide a couple of awards for the recipients that myself and

2688
04:40:01,320 --> 04:40:11,400
Councilman Raila gave to that seminar report. Thank you. On Wednesday, May 17th, I had my EDC executive

2689
04:40:11,400 --> 04:40:17,400
committee meeting. Another good meeting, we have Kristen Deacus, the head of the Port of Wanymeans. So she was

2690
04:40:17,400 --> 04:40:24,440
sharing her thoughts on tariffs and how it's affecting the port and all the movement at L.A. and Long Beach.

2691
04:40:24,440 --> 04:40:30,680
So it was very interesting. On Sunday, yes, it was Mother's Day. Thank you. We went to a local restaurant.

2692
04:40:30,760 --> 04:40:41,160
It was very nice. I think Thursday, May 15th, I was very busy. I started with the Venture County

2693
04:40:41,160 --> 04:40:46,520
Animal Services meeting in the morning, which Council Member Raila attended. We had some really good

2694
04:40:46,520 --> 04:40:52,200
information. I don't want to take up too much time because it's late, but we're still back in February.

2695
04:40:52,200 --> 04:40:59,400
We transported 37 animals to Wisconsin, most of them has keys, and they went to two rescues. So

2696
04:40:59,400 --> 04:41:07,400
Esteban Rodriguez, who is our new director, has made it, he's going to try to continue to do that

2697
04:41:07,400 --> 04:41:13,320
to outreach. Right now, he's looking in the state of Washington to take some other animals from us.

2698
04:41:14,120 --> 04:41:21,720
One of the problems we're having, you saw our intake numbers, is we are a, we're considered a no-kill

2699
04:41:21,720 --> 04:41:29,320
shelter because we are over a 90% live release. We're like 97% live release. So what's happening is people

2700
04:41:29,400 --> 04:41:35,640
are pulling animals out of the, the rescues instead of coming to our shelter, are pulling them out of

2701
04:41:35,640 --> 04:41:42,280
kill shelters. So that, because they know we're not going to use the nice, and so they're we're losing a lot of

2702
04:41:42,280 --> 04:41:49,400
that assistance right there. Another concern is with the closure of Santa Polas, the spark is close,

2703
04:41:49,400 --> 04:41:55,240
and then LA's probably possibly going to be starting closing shelters. So we're a little concerned about

2704
04:41:55,240 --> 04:42:00,200
what that's going to do to adventure county. But what are really, two really good things is,

2705
04:42:00,200 --> 04:42:07,480
are do a language documents are almost done. They're 60% or 70% done. And then the best thing is,

2706
04:42:07,480 --> 04:42:15,080
the Board of Supervisors accepted a $1.7 million grant from our Animal Services Foundation

2707
04:42:15,080 --> 04:42:22,040
to purchase a portable spray and newter trailer that will be going throughout the county offering free

2708
04:42:22,040 --> 04:42:29,320
and low-income spray and newter. So that's a very exciting thing for the, for the, for animals.

2709
04:42:29,320 --> 04:42:39,960
For what? Are the dual languages dog and cat? Yes, they are. And guinea pig, and also on the same day,

2710
04:42:39,960 --> 04:42:45,640
the 15th we had our regular board meeting for the EDC, where we discussed the broadband consortium,

2711
04:42:45,640 --> 04:42:51,160
ad-nodium, or ad-nodium, I guess it is, ad-nodium, because we've been working on that for quite a while.

2712
04:42:52,200 --> 04:42:57,160
And then I attended the graduation of the Citizens Academy at 630. It was great to see all those

2713
04:42:57,160 --> 04:43:05,000
people, Councilmember Lizzer. And there was really a very interesting group. They were very interested in

2714
04:43:05,000 --> 04:43:10,040
everything going on. They asked good questions. And you could tell they really enjoyed themselves.

2715
04:43:10,040 --> 04:43:13,640
And I told them now that they were done with the Citizens Academy, they can sign up for a search.

2716
04:43:14,280 --> 04:43:21,080
They have all that free time. So on Friday, May 16th, I had met with our City Manager.

2717
04:43:21,080 --> 04:43:27,160
It's win over some things. On Saturday, May 17th, this is kind of off the topic, but I drove

2718
04:43:27,160 --> 04:43:34,200
Rockies in my exchange student daughter to their terros prom. So that was a lot of fun. You see all the kids

2719
04:43:34,200 --> 04:43:40,200
out there. I'll dress up in there in their prom outfits. And then this morning, or today before the meeting,

2720
04:43:40,280 --> 04:43:45,880
May 19th, I met with the Town Center representatives. And that's the end of my report. I'll keep

2721
04:43:45,880 --> 04:43:53,320
it short and sweet there. So the next item, I had three seconds. No, because we're almost going to 1130.

2722
04:43:53,320 --> 04:43:59,800
I have to. I got back on Sunday, which was still technically my 29th wedding anniversary. And you know,

2723
04:44:00,360 --> 04:44:06,280
oh, yes. Oh, my spouse didn't come to Council and, and, you know, give you flowers, but I'll say happy

2724
04:44:06,280 --> 04:44:18,520
anniversary, Kim. Okay. Do we have any items for agenda? I know. That's what I'm saying. Don't say

2725
04:44:18,520 --> 04:44:25,960
now. We can't start a new item. Okay. Nothing. Nothing at this time. Unfortunately, we're going to be

2726
04:44:25,960 --> 04:44:31,880
closing in memory of a few a couple of people. One is we're a journey in memory of Paul and Matthew

2727
04:44:31,960 --> 04:44:38,200
Kirkovitz. They were the victims of the plane crash in Wood Ranch. Thankfully, nobody else was

2728
04:44:38,200 --> 04:44:43,960
harder injured, but sorry to their family who sent out condolences. The next one was a little bit even harder.

2729
04:44:45,240 --> 04:44:51,400
We lost the decroats. A main study of Cemi Valley. He was on the board of directors of Cemi Valley Bank

2730
04:44:51,400 --> 04:44:56,600
when I worked there for 12 years before we knew bank bodice. And most people know him as the owner of

2731
04:44:56,600 --> 04:44:59,800
Green Acre's Market. So we were I was

2732
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:26,360
Joking with one of his friends, he said, I want to rename LA Avenue Dick Rhodes street and I said, no, I said, but you can name that left turn lane after him. The one who did into his parking lot. So that we're going to call that Dick's left turn. So but no, I mean, all seriousness Dick has contributed so much to this community over all the time and condolences that to Brenda his wife and Julie's daughter. So with that, we'll adjourn. Thank you.