[0:49] The Planning Commission meeting [0:54] of AUGUST 26th, 26, 2026 will [0:55] come to order. Ladies and [0:57] gentlemen, please rise and face [0:58] the flag for the Pledge of [1:00] Allegiance. Please remove your [1:01] hats for head coverings. [1:02] Civilians, please place your [1:04] hand over your heart. Veterans [1:05] and active military duty [1:06] personnel not in uniform MAY [1:09] render military Hanssler ready [1:10] again.. [1:12] I pledge allegiance to the the [1:14] line of the United States of [1:17] America and to the Republic for [1:19] which it stands. One nation [1:22] under GOD, indivisible, with [1:24] liberty and justice for all. [1:30] Thank you. Uh, the Secretary [1:32] will call roll. [1:33] Commissioner Mann. [1:34] Present. [1:36] Commissioner Tolson here. [1:38] Commissioner Christmann here. [1:40] Vice chairperson. Rice here. [1:41] Chairperson. [1:43] Kennedy here. [1:49] Here. There it is. Uh, MAY I [1:51] have a motion for approval of [1:55] the agenda? I move. [1:56] To approve the agenda as [1:58] presented. [1:58] I [2:00] ll second it. [2:01] Unless there are any [2:03] objections. The agenda stands [2:07] approved. Approval of the [2:09] minutes. Uh, there are no [2:10] minutes to approve. That [2:11] s a [2:13] good quick one. Declaration of [2:14] conflict. The Secretary will [2:15] read the declaration of [2:17] conflict. [2:18] If any member of the Planning [2:20] Commission MAY have a conflict [2:22] of interest, or any reason why [2:24] that member should abstain from [2:26] consideration of any matter on [2:28] this agenda, he or she should [2:36] so declare at this time. [2:40] Seeing none, we continue on. [2:42] This is the time allotted for [2:43] public statements or comments [2:45] on all items other than the [2:47] public hearing items. Is there [2:48] one anyone in the chamber [2:57] wishing to be heard? Okay, next [2:59] item correspondence. Is there [3:00] any correspondence from the [3:02] Deputy Director City planner? [3:03] Uh, yes. Chairperson. Kennedy. [3:06] We have one, uh, supplemental [3:07] staff report for agenda. [3:11] Item ten a1 regarding a [3:12] correspondence received on the [3:14] North Canyons uh, development [3:15] project that [3:17] s been provided to [3:18] you, posted on the website, and [3:20] copies were placed out in the [3:24] lobby. [3:25] Okay. Next item is consent [3:27] calendar. There are no consent [3:30] calendar items. Next item. [3:33] Continued business. This is the [3:34] time and place set for a [3:36] continued public hearing on the [3:41] consideration of annex 0077 [3:51] gpa. Dash 0073 z s 0613 pd s [3:59] 1054 t 5658-a. D a dash [4:10] 20260001 and annex 20240001 and [4:14] z dash s 2024. And the [4:17] Environmental Impact Report eir [4:19] and mitigation, Monitoring and [4:23] Reporting Program. Therefore, [4:24] are there any ex-parte [4:29] communications to report? [4:29] Go. [4:31] First I had a meeting with a [4:34] developer and um, we had a [4:35] conversation about the project. [4:37] I also talked to uh, or [4:38] listened to a couple of [4:40] residents that live in [4:42] unincorporated areas of [4:43] different, different [4:46] unincorporated areas. [4:48] i also had a zoom meeting with [4:50] the developer and the discuss [4:54] the project. [4:56] Uh, I had a meeting with a [4:58] developer as well via zoom. [5:00] I had a scheduled meeting with [5:01] the developer, but that got [5:02] canceled because of a family [5:05] emergency. So. [5:06] Along those same lines, I was [5:07] out of state on vacation and [5:09] had a zoom meeting with the [5:12] developer. And, uh, MR. Becerra [5:20] was on that call as well. Next [5:21] item. MAY we have an oral [5:26] report by staff on this matter? [5:27] Uh, yes. Good evening, [5:28] Chairperson Kennedy. Members of [5:30] the Planning Commission. Yes. [5:32] This is a continued public [5:34] hearing on the North Canyon [5:36] Ranch development application. [5:39] And, uh, associated [5:41] entitlements, including the [5:43] proposed annexation of that [5:45] site and the discussion on the [5:47] related island annexations. [5:50] This was continued from 2025. [5:50] And tonight [5:52] s item is a [5:53] planning Commission hearing. [5:54] And this would be a [5:55] recommendation on the action to [6:01] the city council. Any, um, any [6:02] final approval of the project [6:05] does not occur tonight. And [6:06] this process would be gone [6:07] through again at the city [6:09] council level. So just to let [6:11] everyone in the audience know [6:12] that this there [6:12] s no final [6:14] action tonight. If this does [6:15] move forward to the City [6:17] council, uh, proper public [6:19] noticing will also occur when [6:21] that date is scheduled. So I [6:21] ll [6:23] turn it over the presentation [6:25] to Senior Planner Elizabeth [6:30] Richardson. [6:32] Okay. Good evening. Tonight we [6:34] will be reviewing the proposed [6:35] North Canyon Ranch in [6:38] annexation for a new 207 unit [6:41] subdivision. There are three [6:42] components of the project being [6:44] reviewed tonight. The North [6:45] Canyon Ranch subdivision, [6:47] annexation of the North Canyon [6:49] Ranch site into the city [6:51] limits, and the annexation of [6:52] seven of the nine county [6:54] islands. We will review each of [6:55] these further in tonight [6:56] s [7:00] presentation. The North Canyon [7:03] Ranch Project site is project [7:05] is a request to subdivide a 160 [7:08] acre site for 207 unit [7:10] subdivision consisting of 157 [7:13] single family residences, 50 [7:15] multifamily units and open [7:17] space. The proposal requires a [7:19] general plan Amendment three [7:21] zone plan development permit, [7:23] tentative map, and a [7:24] development agreement. [7:25] Tonight [7:26] s review will only be [7:28] for the overall site layout, [7:30] building designs of the homes, [7:32] landscaping, site improvements [7:34] and retaining wall design will [7:35] be reviewed under a future plan [7:37] development permit modification. [7:42] North Canyon Ranch was first [7:43] scheduled for a public hearing [7:46] on JANUARY 8th, 2025. However, [7:48] due to a lack of a quorum, the [7:49] project was continued to [7:52] JANUARY 22nd, 2025. On JANUARY [7:54] 22nd, the public hearing was [7:56] opened and four members of the [7:58] public spoke. The meeting was [8:00] continued again to allow staff [8:01] additional time to study the [8:03] fiscal impacts of the project [8:05] and negotiate a development [8:07] agreement. The project tonight [8:10] was noticed for public hearing [8:11] by placing a public hearing [8:13] notice signs at First Street [8:15] and Falcon Drive, running a [8:16] public hearing notice ad in the [8:19] newspaper, mailing postcards to [8:20] property owners in a 300 foot [8:22] radius of the North Canyon [8:24] Ranch project, and to property [8:25] owners in the seven affected [8:28] county islands. Noticing was [8:29] completed 20 days in advance of [8:30] tonight [8:31] s meeting to comply [8:33] with state law requiring 20 day [8:34] notice for projects with a zone [8:39] change. The project is located [8:41] north of the Simi Valley town [8:42] center, between First Street [8:44] and the intersection of Erin jr [8:46] Road and Falcon Street, and is [8:47] located outside the city [8:49] limits, but is within the [8:50] sphere of influence and the [8:51] city urban Restriction [8:53] boundary, also known as the [8:55] curb. The site is currently [8:57] vacant and portions of the site [8:58] have been previously disturbed [9:00] with grading, unimproved dirt [9:02] roads and placement of dirt [9:03] from the Simi Valley town [9:06] center. Construction. Existing [9:07] vegetation consists of coastal [9:09] sage scrub, small patches of [9:13] cactus, highly disturbed [9:15] non-native grass habitats, and [9:17] riparian scrub. In some [9:18] locations along the drainage [9:21] courses and debris basins. The [9:22] tree report for the project [9:24] identified 16 trees on the [9:26] property and most of the [9:28] natural habitat on the site was [9:29] disturbed by the domestic [9:33] animal grazing activities. This [9:34] is a view of the project site [9:35] from the end of Falcon Street, [9:39] looking west, and this is a [9:40] view of the site from the end [9:41] of First Street looking [9:45] northeast. The city [9:46] s general [9:48] plan has designated. The North [9:49] Canyon site as medium density [9:51] residential. Moderate density [9:54] residential and open space. In [9:55] 2005, a general plan [9:57] pre-screened was reviewed by [9:58] the City Council and granted [10:00] authorization to proceed with [10:01] an application for a General [10:03] Plan amendment. The proposed [10:05] General Plan Amendment will not [10:06] change the existing land use [10:08] designations, but will instead [10:09] redistribute them to follow the [10:10] boundary of the proposed [10:12] development. Single family [10:14] residential will be located in [10:16] the medium density residential, [10:18] land use and multifamily [10:19] residential units will be in [10:21] the moderate density. [10:26] Residential land use. The North [10:27] Canyon Project site is [10:28] currently zoned County Open [10:30] Space. As part of the [10:32] annexation, the city will zone [10:33] the project site to residential [10:35] medium and residential moderate [10:37] density and open space. [10:39] Consistent with the project [10:41] layout, the residential medium [10:43] zone allows single family [10:45] residences, while the [10:46] residential moderate zone [10:47] allows both single family and [10:49] multifamily residential [10:51] development for the North [10:52] Canyon Ranch project, the [10:53] single family homes will be [10:54] located in the residential [10:55] medium zone, and the [10:57] multifamily residential will be [10:58] located in the Residential [11:05] Moderate zone. The project site [11:06] is proposed to be subdivided [11:08] into 157 single family [11:10] residential lots and 50 [11:12] multi-family residential units. [11:14] The multifamily residential [11:15] will either be senior housing [11:17] or 25% affordable per the [11:19] conditions. Proposed [11:20] development will disturb [11:22] approximately 90 acres of the [11:24] site to create lots ranging in [11:26] size between 5000ft and [11:33] 15,829ft in area. The project [11:35] will extend Falcon Street from [11:37] First Street to r&r road and [11:38] the General Plan Mobility [11:39] section has identified this [11:41] connection as an unbuilt minor [11:43] arterial roadway, and by [11:44] connecting the road, the [11:45] project further complies with [11:50] the General Plan. Two new one [11:51] acre parks will also be [11:52] included in the site identified [11:54] here on the map, and site [11:56] greeting will not result in [11:58] soil being impacted. The [11:59] remainder of the site will [12:04] remain dedicated. Open space. [12:05] The project site will be [12:06] located within the Hillside [12:08] Performance Standards or Https [12:09] boundary. The purpose of the [12:11] house is to preserve the [12:13] hillside areas, promote single [12:14] family housing in the hillside [12:17] and slope areas. Less than 20% [12:19] maintain open space and scenic [12:21] resources and prohibit most [12:23] grading on slopes over 20%. [12:24] Residential density for [12:26] projects in the house is not [12:28] calculated using the underlying [12:30] zoning, and is instead based on [12:32] slope density using the [12:33] steepness of the land where the [12:35] development is proposed to [12:36] calculate the allowed number of [12:41] units. On this map, the area [12:42] where slopes range between 0 [12:44] and 20% are shown in green, [12:46] purple and red colors, and the [12:48] area that is gray or slopes [12:51] over 20%. Based on the analysis [12:52] of the slope map, the project [12:57] can accommodate the 207 units. [12:59] The project site is located [13:00] within the state and Ventura [13:02] County Fire Department [13:02] s very [13:04] high fire hazard zone. [13:05] Development of the site [13:06] requires the fire department [13:07] s [13:08] approval of site plans for fire [13:10] protection features, including [13:13] adequate fire apparatus access, [13:14] roadway widths, turnaround [13:16] areas, placement of fire [13:18] hydrants, installation of the [13:19] fire sprinklers inside the [13:21] houses, and establishment of [13:22] fuel modification zones for [13:24] brush clearance. The fire [13:25] department has reviewed the [13:27] tentative map for fire safety [13:28] to ensure it conforms with the [13:30] applicable codes, and the map [13:32] was modified in response to [13:34] fire Department comments, [13:37] including removal of two lots, [13:38] a fire protection plan and fuel [13:40] modification plan has [13:43] preliminary been reviewed and [13:44] approved by the fire [13:46] Department. Together, they are [13:47] designed to minimize fire [13:48] hazards and risks that MAY [13:50] threaten life and property in [13:51] the future. The fire department [13:53] will also review the final [13:54] landscaping plans to ensure [13:56] that all plant materials comply [13:57] with the fire department [14:01] regulations. A unique design [14:03] feature of the project is a 60 [14:06] foot high wall retaining wall. [14:07] The wall is proposed to be [14:09] located on the southwest area [14:10] of the site, adjacent to the [14:12] First Street extension. The [14:14] wall will be stepped, with two [14:15] different sections being 30ft [14:18] tall and a ten foot wide step [14:20] for drainage and landscaping. [14:21] The purpose of the wall is to [14:23] hold back the slope created by [14:24] cutting in the First Street [14:26] extension. The wall is a [14:28] notable feature of the project. [14:30] However, the design the design [14:31] still requires final [14:32] engineering design and [14:34] approval. Staff has discussed [14:35] with the applicant [14:37] opportunities to obtain an [14:38] easement with the adjacent [14:39] property owner, which could [14:40] result in a design that would [14:41] not require such a tall [14:47] retaining wall. To develop the [14:49] North Canyon Ranch site. The [14:51] 160 acre property and seven of [14:53] the nine county islands must be [14:54] annexed into the city limits by [14:57] Ventura Lafco. Annexation of [14:58] the North Canyon site is [15:00] required because the site is [15:02] larger than 40 acres, and by [15:04] annexing North Canyon Ranch, [15:06] Lafco policy also requires the [15:07] annexation of seven of the nine [15:12] county islands. The acronym [15:14] Lafco stands for stands for [15:15] Local Agency Formation [15:17] Commission, and is a state [15:19] agency that has the sole [15:20] authority over changes to the [15:21] city boundaries and special [15:25] districts. Lafco to discourage [15:26] sprawl and encourage orderly [15:28] development and establish the [15:29] sphere of influence for each [15:34] city or agency. To initiate the [15:35] annexation of North Canyon [15:35] s [15:37] ranch. The City Council must [15:38] first recommend the city file [15:41] an application with Lafco. [15:43] Next, the city will formally [15:44] apply for annexation of the [15:46] North Canyon Ranch project site [15:48] with Lafco, and then they will [15:50] review the application at a [15:53] public hearing, where the board [15:54] will either approve or deny the [15:59] annexation request. In 2000, [16:00] the California State [16:02] Legislature significantly [16:04] changed Lafco policy as part of [16:05] the local Government [16:08] Reorganization Act of 2000. As [16:10] part of this new policy, the [16:12] state legislature added a [16:13] requirement for cities to annex [16:16] county islands and removing [16:18] Lafco discretion. Ventura Lafco [16:20] adopted their island annexation [16:23] policy in 2003 and requires [16:25] when cities annex sites larger [16:27] than 40 acres, the islands be [16:30] annexed as well. The island [16:31] annexation application will be [16:33] submitted to Lafco after the [16:35] North Canyon Ranch annexation [16:35] is approved. [16:37] Elizabeth. Sorry for [16:39] interrupting. We appear to have [16:42] technical difficulties with [16:43] regard to the live stream. Is [16:45] that accurate? [16:45] I mean, it [16:46] s everything on my [16:48] end, although I. [16:48] We [16:49] ll take a brief pause. [16:51] If we could take a ten minute [16:53] pause to see if we can rectify [16:54] that. I apologize for [16:59] interrupting. [21:15] The video on YouTube. [21:16] MR. CHAIRMAN, members of the [21:18] commission. I think we have a [21:20] Granicus live stream. It [21:21] appears there [21:21] s a technical [21:23] difficulty with YouTube itself. [21:25] As long as we have a live feed [21:26] through the city [21:27] s website or [21:28] get to move forward, it [21:29] s [21:30] obviously up to the commission. [21:31] If you want to move forward. My [21:32] suggestion would be the backup [21:33] for five minutes in your [21:35] presentation and repeat that [21:36] part of it so that at least we [21:38] have that going out. Um, but [21:38] I [21:39] m happy to answer any [21:44] questions or. [21:44] I [21:45] m on the website. Just go to [21:46] the Planning Commission. I [21:46] m [21:48] looking at the website. Okay. [21:49] So your voice just came through [21:50] on spectrum. [21:53] Okay. Great. So you [21:53] re you [21:54] re [21:55] clear to move forward if you if [21:56] you so desire. [21:58] Yeah I concur. Uh, shall we [21:59] back up five minutes in that [22:00] presentation just to make sure [22:01] that we [22:02] re covered? [22:02] Yeah, I [22:03] m going to pick up [22:04] where we start with the [22:05] annexation. Okay. Does that [22:06] sound good? [22:07] Yeah. Annexation. That [22:07] s good. [22:10] Break point. [22:11] I guess. [22:15] Okay. [22:17] Yeah. We still need our video [22:21] feed on the screens here. [22:26] No, no. Yes. [22:27] Sorry. [22:29] Okay. So, yeah, you are coming [22:30] through on spectrum because I [22:31] just read your voice through [22:33] the tv up by my house. So [22:37] spectrum is working. Yeah. Here [22:38] we go. Live again. All the [22:39] life. Okay. Granicus is working [22:40] or not? [22:41] All right. Can we get our [22:42] screens back up here at the [23:01] dais there on. Still in recess. [23:03] Hey, the good news is the air [23:05] conditioning is working right? [23:09] Yeah. [23:18] Right. [23:18] That [23:31] s. [23:49] So as we see ourself. [23:52] Okay, okay. [23:53] It looks like the reboot has [23:54] occurred. So we [23:55] re going to go [23:56] ahead and pick this back up at [24:02] the annexation slide. [24:03] I just said it [24:04] s not showing up [24:04] on. [24:05] Granicus.. [24:09] So things. [24:11] Yeah yeah we gotta reboot up [24:15] here. [24:15] Can here. But it [24:16] s still saying [24:22] recess. [24:23] All right. We [24:23] re good. [24:27] To me. Okay. Okay. You ready? [24:28] Okay. [24:28] Okay. Looks like we [24:29] re on a [24:29] restart. We [24:30] re going to kick it [24:32] back to the slide with the [24:33] annexation and go forward from [24:38] there. Thank you all. [24:42] Up. Now, on that one right [24:42] there. [24:44] Excellent. Okay. [24:47] Thank you. Everybody. [24:48] Okay. [24:50] To develop the North Canyon [24:52] Ranch site, the property and [24:53] seven of the county islands [24:55] must be annexed into the city [24:57] limits by Ventura Lafco [24:59] annexation of the of the North [25:00] Canyon site is required because [25:02] the site is larger than 40 [25:04] acres. And by annexing North [25:06] Canyons Ranch. Lafco policy [25:07] also requires annexation of [25:08] seven of the nine county [25:13] islands. The acronym Lafco [25:15] stands for Local Area Formation [25:18] Commission. Local Agency [25:19] Formation Commission, and is a [25:21] state agency that has a sole [25:23] authority over changes to city [25:24] boundaries and special [25:26] districts. Lafco is discourage [25:28] sprawl and encourage orderly [25:29] development and establish the [25:31] sphere of influence for each [25:35] city or agency to initiate the [25:36] annexation of North Canyon [25:38] Ranch. The City Council must [25:39] first recommend the city file [25:41] an application with Lafco. [25:43] Next, the city will formally [25:44] apply for annexation of the [25:47] North Canyon Ranch project site, [25:49] and then Lafco will review. The [25:50] will then review the [25:52] application, and at a public [25:53] hearing, the board will either [25:54] approve or deny the annexation [25:59] request. In 2000, the [26:00] California State Legislature [26:02] significantly changed Lafco [26:04] policy as part of the Local [26:06] Government Reorganization Act [26:08] of 2000. As part of this new [26:10] policy, the state legislature [26:11] added a requirement for cities [26:14] to annex county islands and [26:16] removed Lafco discretion. [26:18] Ventura Lafco adopted their [26:19] island annexation policy in [26:22] 2003, and requires when cities [26:23] annex sites larger than 40 [26:25] acres, the islands be annexed [26:27] as well. The island annexation [26:29] application will be submitted [26:30] to Lafco after the North Canyon [26:34] Ranch annexation is approved. [26:36] This map shows the location of [26:37] the seven county islands to be [26:39] annexed. County Islands six and [26:41] nine are crossed out and are [26:42] not part of the of this [26:45] application. Due to their size [26:47] in the future, these count [26:48] these county islands six and [26:50] nine could seek annexation [26:51] individually for future [26:53] development projects. A total [26:56] of 437 lots will be annexed, [26:57] with a total area of [26:59] approximately 302 acres. [27:01] Existing uses in the annexation [27:03] areas are primarily single [27:07] family residential. [27:08] Unincorporated county. Island [27:09] properties are zoned in [27:11] anticipation of being annexed [27:13] into the city. County. Island [27:15] eight. The Sinaloa Lake area, [27:16] however, was not pre zoned [27:18] previously. The pre zoning [27:19] considers the existing [27:21] activities of the site that are [27:22] both residential and open [27:24] space, as well as animal [27:26] keeping activities. Island [27:28] eight will be pre zoned to [27:29] residential estate with farm [27:32] animal overlay, residential [27:34] very low, residential low and [27:36] open space. The farm Animal [27:38] overlay will continue to allow [27:40] the animal raising activities [27:43] allowed by the county. After [27:45] the county Islands are annexed [27:46] into the city. Residents will [27:48] experience some changes to the [27:49] services they currently [27:51] receive. Law enforcement will [27:53] transfer from Ventura County [27:53] Sheriff [27:54] s Department to Simi [27:57] Valley Police Department. [27:58] Building permits will be [27:59] reviewed and issued by the City [28:01] of Simi Valley, and code [28:03] enforcement will be transferred [28:04] to the City of Simi Valley as [28:06] well. However, some services [28:07] won [28:08] t change. Ventura County [28:10] Fire Department will continue [28:12] to respond to calls. Waterworks [28:14] district eight will continue to [28:16] provide water. If your property [28:18] is currently on septic, the [28:20] city will not require you to [28:21] connect to city sewer until [28:24] there is a health safety issue [28:26] or a resident builds a new [28:28] single family residence, sb9 [28:31] unit or an Adu. Preexisting [28:32] permitted uses allowed by the [28:34] county will continue to be [28:35] allowed, including animal [28:39] keeping. The project was [28:41] continued in 2025 because of [28:43] concerns related to the [28:45] financial impacts of annexing [28:46] the county islands into the [28:48] city. A fiscal impact analysis [28:50] was prepared for the annexation [28:52] and found without the North [28:54] Canyon Ranch development, the [28:55] county islands will generate an [28:59] annual deficit of $142,000. [29:00] This will eventually be offset [29:01] by North Canyon Ranch [29:02] development, which will [29:04] generate an annual surplus of [29:08] $1,229 per residence. The city [29:10] and developer have negotiated a [29:11] development agreement to offset [29:15] the deficit. The development [29:17] agreement offsetting the [29:18] deficit generated by the island [29:20] annexation with payment of [29:26] $141,884 annually. Once, once. [29:30] North Kane is once annexed [29:31] until North Kane [29:32] s is fully [29:34] developed. The developer will [29:35] also provide public benefits, [29:36] including the extension of [29:38] Falcon Street, constructing a [29:40] fire access road, dedicating [29:42] land for public trails, and [29:45] paying $150,000 each to the [29:46] public arts program and the [29:50] library building improvements. [29:53] At the JANUARY 22nd Planning [29:54] Commission meeting, the public [29:56] comments asked the following [29:58] questions. As we discussed. [30:00] Lafco policy requires island [30:02] annexation of North Canyon [30:04] Ranch. Annexation is approved [30:06] and a fiscal impact analysis [30:07] was prepared to study the [30:08] fiscal, the financial impacts [30:11] of island annexation. The [30:12] annexed homes will not count [30:13] towards the city [30:14] s arena. Water [30:15] for the project will be [30:17] supplied by Waterworks District [30:19] eight, who have stated that [30:21] 5.6% of the city [30:22] s water [30:24] surplus will be used by the [30:27] development. The eir identified [30:28] potential bus stops on Falcon [30:30] Street, which will be further [30:31] studied and determined if [30:32] necessary as a project [30:35] progresses. No traffic calming [30:37] devices will be installed on [30:39] Milestone Avenue in response to [30:41] North Canyon Ranch development, [30:43] and Milestone Avenue is a [30:44] public street, and in order to [30:46] install gates, the streets [30:47] would have to be abandoned and [30:52] privatized. In eir was prepared [30:53] for the project, which studied [30:55] both the North Canyon Ranch and [30:57] the island. Annexation. The [30:59] purpose of the of an eir is to [31:00] disclose the potential [31:01] environmental impacts of the [31:03] project. All feasible [31:04] mitigation measures that could [31:06] reduce, that could reduce or [31:09] eliminate those impacts, and [31:10] suggest and investigate [31:12] alternatives to the project, [31:13] which MAY be environmentally [31:14] superior to the project. As [31:17] proposed. The city determined [31:18] the project MAY have a [31:19] significant impact on the on [31:21] the environment and prepared an [31:23] eir. Mitigation measures are [31:25] provided to lessen the impacts, [31:26] to less than, less than [31:28] significant, and are contained [31:29] in the mitigation, monitoring [31:32] and Reporting Program. Our [31:33] Sequoia consultant, Laura [31:35] Kaufman, is here tonight to [31:36] answer questions regarding the [31:38] eir process and mitigation [31:43] measures. To approve the North [31:45] Canyon Ranch Project. Findings [31:46] must be made that the project [31:47] is consistent with the General [31:49] Plan and Simi Valley Municipal [31:51] Code. There are no impacts to [31:53] the public health, safety or [31:55] welfare. The project is [31:56] consistent with the Residential [31:58] Design Guidelines Subdivision [31:59] Map Act and Hillside [32:01] Performance Standards. If the [32:03] Planning Commission chooses to [32:04] deny the project tonight, they [32:06] must find the project is [32:07] inconsistent with the findings [32:11] contained in the resolution. [32:12] And staff recommends the [32:13] Planning Commission make a [32:14] recommendation of approval to [32:16] the City Council of the [32:17] Annexation General Plan [32:19] Amendment Zone Change Plan, [32:20] development permit. Tentative [32:22] map development Agreement and [32:24] eir and the County Island [32:26] Annexation and Free Zone. And [32:27] this concludes my presentation [32:27] and staff [32:28] s available for [32:31] questions. [32:31] Uh. [32:33] Any commissioner questions of [32:42] staff? [32:48] Thank you. Okay. [32:48] I [32:51] m gonna start. Um, can we [32:53] explain a little bit more? What [32:54] would be the financial impact [32:56] on the city of the project was [32:58] to be improved, approved. And [32:59] if the developer doesn [33:00] t start [33:02] developing the project in a [33:03] timely manner. But we already [33:06] are in the process of annexing [33:15] the unincorporated. [33:17] So the fiscal impact analysis [33:17] that [33:19] s attached to the Da, um, [33:22] it identified that the island [33:23] annexations will cost the city [33:26] $142,000. And based upon that [33:31] number, the Da was negotiated [33:36] requiring that. Until North [33:37] Canyon Ranch is fully [33:39] developed, the developer will [33:41] be paying money into the city [33:44] funds to offset that deficit [33:46] incurred by annexing the [33:48] islands. [33:50] So what would be the timeline [33:51] for the annexations? Like what? [33:54] How would that happen if if we [33:55] were to approve this, if the [33:58] city Council was to approve. [33:59] What the timeline would be to [34:00] the island annexation? [34:01] Yeah. [34:03] Um, based upon the timeline [34:06] with, um, with Lafco, it could, [34:08] um, the North Canyon Ranch [34:11] process could take [34:13] approximately over a year. And [34:14] then there [34:16] s ways to extend it. [34:16] There [34:17] s time extensions that [34:18] that can be granted before they [34:21] have to annex the island. [34:22] Annexations. It could be [34:24] approximately five years before [34:26] we annex the islands. [34:27] Thank you. And if we were I [34:27] m [34:28] not saying that that [34:29] s going to [34:30] happen, but if we were to have [34:32] a Runkle Canyon situation, what [34:34] would be the long term effect [34:36] to the city? [34:37] You want to define. [34:38] The. [34:40] Rock Canyon situation? [34:42] Oh, yes. Uh, yes. That is, uh, [34:44] a 20 year delay with many [34:47] extensions and not the project [34:54] was not being finished. I asked [34:54] a question. [34:56] Can you help answer that. [34:57] Question. [34:58] MR. CHAIRMAN? Members of the [35:01] commission. So this is a very [35:03] different situation than a [35:06] project that happened 20 years [35:08] ago. Uh, what was built into [35:09] the development agreement and [35:11] the developers agreed to is to [35:13] ensure that the city is [35:14] protected and that we don [35:14] t [35:16] have a similar situation. The [35:18] overall term of the Da is 15 [35:20] years. Uh, once building [35:21] permits, start getting issued, [35:21] there [35:23] s a six month period [35:25] within which building actually [35:26] has to commence. After those [35:28] building permits are issued, [35:29] and failure to do so is a [35:31] material breach of the actual [35:32] development agreement, which [35:33] means that [35:33] s going to be in [35:34] front of the City Council for [35:37] review at that point. Uh, with [35:39] regard to the financial aspects [35:41] of things, the developer has [35:43] agreed to provide a surety, [35:44] meaning a bond or letter of [35:46] credit, some other type, form [35:48] of surety to make sure that the [35:49] annexation happens in a timely [35:50] manner. I [35:53] ll say with regard to [35:54] annexation in a timely manner, [35:56] sir, I usually look at this [36:00] way, but, uh, the, uh, lafco is [36:02] actually required by state law [36:04] to process the annexation [36:06] application very quickly. This [36:09] is a application process, [36:10] annexation process whereby the [36:12] city is actually asking for the [36:13] annexation, which means that [36:15] under state law, Lafco waives [36:18] the protest proceedings, has to [36:20] approve the project. And there [36:23] are very few opportunities to [36:25] stop the process for annexation [36:27] under these circumstances. All [36:29] of this to say that we took a [36:31] lot of time to to negotiate the [36:32] impact fee that [36:33] s been [36:34] described by staff and on your [36:36] on your PowerPoint. And also [36:36] it [36:37] s built into the development [36:39] agreement. So from a legal [36:40] standpoint, I don [36:41] t think that [36:42] the concerns that have been [36:43] raised about other projects [36:44] within the city will be [36:46] replicated. And certainly I [36:49] know that the city council is, [36:51] uh, well aware of of other [36:54] issues with other developments. [36:54] So I don [36:55] t think that that is [36:56] something that will happen. [36:57] Again. [36:58] Thank you. I was not saying [36:58] it [36:59] s going to happen. I was [37:01] just making sure that we have a [37:02] plan in place. [37:03] Yes. And this development [37:04] agreement is very different [37:06] than any others that have come [37:07] before, either the Planning [37:08] Commission for recommendations [37:09] to the City Council or for the [37:13] City Council itself to consider. [37:14] I have more questions, but if [37:15] somebody else wants. [37:19] To read Your Honor roll. [37:20] I [37:22] m on a roll. Um, I do, I do [37:23] want to bring up the tough, uh, [37:26] traffic question. Um, so, uh, [37:28] my, my question and I did ask [37:30] it before if this development [37:31] was to be happening at the same [37:34] time as the, uh, Lost Canyon [37:37] development, what would be the [37:39] traffic impact on, on that area? [37:42] Thank you. [37:43] We [37:44] ll bring up Justin Link, [37:52] principal traffic engineer. [37:54] I apologize to anybody coming [37:56] after me who has to go over [37:56] this. Uh, good evening, [37:58] commissioners. Uh, that is, uh, [37:58] that [38:00] s a tricky question to [38:03] answer because our either the [38:05] traffic study or traffic model [38:05] doesn [38:06] t necessarily take into [38:08] account conflicting [38:10] construction. It is possible, I [38:12] suppose, that we can limit [38:14] construction traffic to certain [38:17] areas. So if North Canyons were [38:18] to progress at the same time [38:19] that we would limit [38:20] construction traffic to, say, [38:21] First Street, as opposed to [38:22] using arranger, I don [38:23] t suspect [38:24] that there [38:24] s going to be a lot [38:26] of construction traffic using [38:27] arranger from Lost Canyons [38:29] because of the distance between [38:30] them, so there shouldn [38:31] t be too [38:32] much interactivity. Again, [38:32] that [38:34] s pure speculation on my [38:36] part, but there would be the [38:37] potential. I would think that [38:38] we could figure out a way with [38:40] a developer to place the [38:42] construction traffic closer to [38:43] where it needs to go. [38:45] Thank you. Does anybody else [38:48] have traffic questions? [38:50] No. [38:54] Thank you. [38:56] You go ahead. You go ahead for [38:56] a little bit. [38:59] I have no questions for staff [39:03] at this time. [39:05] Olson, ma [39:05] am. [39:10] No, sir. Okay. [39:12] That being said, then we will [39:14] open the public testimony [39:17] portion of the hearing. And for [39:18] that, would the applicant like [39:45] to present the project? [39:45] Just keep right here, okay? [39:47] Okay. [39:52] So we have Glenn and. [39:53] Susan. [39:55] Glenn, Glenn and Susie are [39:56] presenting. Okay? [39:57] Yeah. Chair Kennedy I [39:58] ll I [39:58] ll [40:00] be presenting. And then as we [40:01] need to if there are questions [40:01] that I can [40:02] t answer, we [40:02] ll [40:04] bring up the appropriate folks. [40:04] Thank you. [40:06] Glenn. So, uh, Chair Kennedy [40:07] and members of the commission, [40:08] thank you very much for the [40:10] time to present on this, uh, [40:11] what I believe is a beautiful [40:13] project coming to Simi Valley. [40:14] Um, and we [40:15] re grateful to be [40:16] back in front of you, I think [40:18] now, for the sixth time since [40:20] 2025, um, which I [40:21] m not sure is [40:22] a record, but could be, uh, and [40:24] we want to thank the staff. [40:25] City staff has done a great job [40:27] working with us to develop the [40:28] development agreement to make [40:30] sure the fiscal impacts are [40:33] addressed in this project, and [40:34] to bring a beautiful project [40:37] here back to Simi Valley. Um, [40:38] as you know that tonight [40:39] s vote [40:40] is about the merits of this [40:42] project. Uh, not about the [40:43] lafco process, but it [40:44] s hard to [40:46] separate the two, uh, because [40:48] lafco and state law has [40:49] interconnected those, as staff [40:54] has pointed out. So we wanted [40:56] to get into a few things about [41:00] the project itself. Um, let me [41:01] see. I [41:03] m one more ahead. Uh, [41:05] the North County, uh, or I [41:05] m [41:06] sorry, the North Canyon Ranch [41:08] solves what Lafco has been [41:10] dealing with for the last 25 [41:13] years. Um, that is to address [41:16] the county islands, um, as some [41:16] of you know, I [41:17] m. I [41:18] m a owner [41:19] of a house in one of the [41:21] islands. I have a house on [41:23] Avenida Simi, right behind the [41:25] Simi Valley Hospital, with a 60 [41:28] year old septic tank. Um, just [41:32] just to say, uh, the way this, [41:34] this project has been, um, put [41:36] together, it addresses the [41:38] financial shortfalls that that [41:41] the city was anticipating by a [41:44] lafco, uh, directed annexation [41:45] of the islands. Uh, it [41:47] actually, you know, addresses [41:48] the problem so well that it [41:50] creates a surplus, additional [41:52] monies for the city, uh, to be [41:55] able to support the rest of the [41:57] city operations after the [41:59] project is fully built out. Uh, [42:01] once the project is built out, [42:03] there should be, uh, it [42:03] s [42:04] anticipated that there [42:04] ll be [42:06] over $100,000 of additional [42:09] money going back to the city. [42:12] Uh, project history. Um, the [42:13] project has always been [42:15] intended to be developed. This [42:17] piece of land, it is in the [42:17] city [42:19] s general plan, and it is [42:19] in the city [42:20] s sphere of [42:22] influence. The zoning that that [42:24] that was previously put on, it [42:27] actually allows for around 260 [42:28] homes. And we [42:30] re building 207 [42:33] homes, um, which is a lighter [42:35] density. And, and we [42:35] re [42:38] providing a mix of houses, uh, [42:44] from 1900ft up to 3400ft as I [42:44] as if I [42:45] m remembering my my [42:48] specific details. And, uh, and [42:52] lot sizes, uh, up into the [42:57] 15,005 thousand range. So the [42:59] eir has been completed and with [43:01] an extensive analysis led by [43:03] the city and their staff, their [43:04] consultant, [43:07] And we can, uh, and it found [43:10] that no significant issues [43:11] arose, that none of the city [43:12] s [43:13] services or infrastructure has [43:15] to be upsized to meet the needs [43:17] of this project, which is a, [43:19] you know, is important because [43:21] that means the city had already [43:23] planned on this, uh, in the [43:25] future. And met is meeting [43:28] those future needs. Uh, we [43:30] actually also participated in [43:32] the community outreach. We went [43:33] because this project straddles [43:34] two different neighborhood [43:36] councils, Council one and [43:37] three. You know, we went before [43:39] both of those and received a [43:40] support from both of those [43:42] neighborhood councils. And as [43:44] you know, the, uh, from when [43:46] the town center was built, some [43:48] of that, some of the the dirt [43:49] was moved up to this project [43:51] and they had created some [43:53] super, super pads. And those [43:54] pads were certified by the [44:00] city, um, for this development. [44:01] I want to thank the staff [44:02] because they went through all [44:04] the benefits of this project, [44:06] but is as you can see, the [44:08] project overall size is 160 [44:10] acres. Uh, we [44:10] re building on [44:14] 39% of that. Uh, the the [44:16] project itself offers a wide, [44:18] wide variety of housing. Um, [44:22] and 40% of the site will will [44:24] be left undisturbed and will be [44:27] used for conservation. Uh, the [44:29] project is going to, um. The [44:30] ranchers see to be recreation. [44:31] And Park District is also going [44:33] to be receiving the open space, [44:35] uh, along with some trails. And [44:37] then in addition to that, a [44:39] fire access road, so that if a [44:40] fire does happen in the [44:41] backside, they [44:42] ll be accessed [44:43] by the fire department, which [44:45] conveniently is just on the [44:47] corner of the street that [44:47] s [44:50] going to be connected. And so [44:50] we think that [44:51] s a plus for [44:54] everybody, including, uh, these [44:55] residents and people that live [44:59] down on First Street. So, um, [45:01] the fire protection and the [45:02] connectivity benefits of [45:03] benefits that we [45:03] ve just talked [45:07] about do connect and fulfill [45:07] the city [45:08] s desired goal to [45:10] connect First Street to Falcon [45:12] and to connect the First Street [45:15] area to the big Sky area. It [45:16] you know, if something were to [45:18] happen at the freeway on air [45:20] and for some reason arranger [45:22] was blocked, it would allow the [45:24] big Sky residents an additional [45:26] way out, not just on top of [45:27] Canyon, uh, which is going to [45:29] be receiving some nice road [45:30] improvements in the future. Uh, [45:32] those road improvements are [45:34] already underway, but also [45:37] right here off of First Street. [45:40] Um, there is again, the fire [45:41] fuel mod modifications that are [45:42] going in because of the new [45:44] state law. And this being in a [45:46] high fire zone. Uh, you know, [45:48] creates that 200 foot buffer [45:49] which helps everybody, [45:51] including the big sky area. But [45:52] on top of that, all of these [45:53] houses, including the [45:55] multi-family houses, will be, [45:56] uh, sprinklers. They [45:56] ll all [46:00] have fire sprinklers in them. A [46:01] few other benefits. There [46:02] ll be [46:04] $8.2 million paid to the city [46:05] and the school district. Um, [46:07] based on impact fees. Uh, the [46:08] direct financial contribution [46:11] of $150,000 for the public arts [46:13] and for the library building [46:16] fund. Um, and and in a surplus [46:19] to the city, even after the [46:21] annexation takes place. So I [46:24] will wrap it up there and be [46:25] happy to answer any questions [46:26] that you might have. And, uh, [46:27] and if I can [46:28] t do it, I have [46:29] got a good team back here that [46:33] can. [46:34] All right. [46:37] Any questions of the applicant? [46:38] I if you turn around that [46:40] question, you said lower [46:42] density. [46:42] I [46:42] m sorry. [46:42] I can [46:43] t hear. [46:45] Multiple families. This is a [46:47] meeting. [46:47] Yeah. I [46:49] m happy to answer his [46:51] question. [46:51] I [46:52] m sorry. [46:52] Yeah. [46:54] Have you submitted a speaker [46:56] card, sir? [46:57] Yes. [46:57] I [46:58] m sorry. Did you submit a [47:00] speaker card? Yes. Yeah. Okay. [47:00] And I [47:01] m happy to answer his [47:01] question. [47:02] Well, we [47:03] ll get to it in the [47:05] right order here. So. Okay. [47:07] Thank you. Um, so there [47:11] s. Do [47:12] we have any questions of the [47:13] applicant? [47:16] I just have one question. And [47:19] MR. Becerra, how far along are [47:20] you in the process? Have you [47:22] talked to the neighboring [47:24] property owner about the [47:28] possibility of, um, possibly [47:29] not having the retaining wall [47:32] or modifying the retaining wall [47:33] in some way? [47:33] Yeah. [47:35] The property owner, our [47:37] property owner and the [47:38] adjoining property owner have [47:41] been discussing an easement [47:42] for. I think it [47:43] s been ten [47:45] years now. Uh, quite a long [47:48] time. Uh, we would love that. [47:49] Uh, because even though it [47:51] would cost us money to buy that [47:53] easement, uh, to build that [47:56] wall would be quite expensive, [47:58] right? Um, those walls are not [47:59] uncommon. They happen all the [47:59] time. The way we [48:00] re designing [48:02] it, the city staff with Brent [48:04] seminar summer and, you know, [48:06] and the other staff members [48:07] have worked for years to [48:08] develop what [48:09] s being proposed [48:11] now because we haven [48:11] t been [48:14] able to move that that along [48:15] that process with the adjoining [48:16] property owner, because you [48:17] are. [48:18] Still talking to him as what [48:18] I [48:22] m. Yes. Okay. Thank you. [48:23] Any other commissioners? [48:25] I guess I got one. So the [48:27] financial impact or the benefit [48:28] of the city, I thought one of [48:29] the slides that you just ended [48:32] with at 250, but a prior slide, [48:33] if I remember correctly, said [48:34] 120. [48:35] Yeah. Well, the reason that [48:35] s [48:37] the difference between the [48:39] amount of money that the amount [48:41] of excess cash that our project [48:43] will develop will provide to [48:46] the city, minus what it [48:46] ll cost [48:47] the city. So it [48:48] s 250 total. [48:49] But when you separate out the [48:51] cost of the annexation, then it [48:52] drops it down to 112. [48:55] Correct. Thank you. [48:57] I have a question, [48:59] Commissioner. Um, how, uh how [49:01] much? How do you envision [49:03] multifamily? Like, what? If you [49:05] can describe it, like, are they [49:07] townhomes? Are they for Plexus [49:08] Duplex? [49:09] Was. [49:12] Two sports. Homes for sale.. [49:12] Needs to speak into the [49:13] microphone. [49:14] Yeah. Thank you. I [49:14] m sorry. [49:16] There are two story there. [49:18] Townhomes and everything that [49:18] we [49:20] re proposing up is there is [49:22] for sale. And just to address [49:24] the question, the reason that I [49:24] said that it [49:26] s lower density, [49:26] it [49:27] s lower it [49:28] s less housing [49:32] that is than was previously, [49:33] you know, than they previously [49:34] thought could go up there. You [49:36] know, the zoning allows for a [49:39] roughly 260 housing units, and [49:39] we [49:41] re only proposing 207. So [49:42] when I say lower density, I [49:42] don [49:45] t mean one acre lots. I [49:48] mean less housing than could go [49:49] up there. [49:51] I have one more that connects [49:53] to that that, uh, I know it [49:53] s [49:55] early in the process, but are [49:56] you leaning more towards the [49:59] senior or affordable? There was [50:01] a one of the things is for for [50:02] multifamily, it [50:03] s 25% [50:08] affordable or 100% senior. [50:09] Yeah. Towards the. [50:09] We [50:13] re leaning towards senior. [50:14] Any more. [50:16] Questions. [50:16] And we [50:17] re not going anywhere. [50:18] So after the residents have a [50:19] chance to speak, we [50:20] re happy to [50:21] come back up and address any of [50:22] those questions that that can [50:23] come up afterwards. [50:24] Thank you. [50:24] Appreciate it. [50:27] Thank you. [50:29] Okay. So now we have speaker [50:31] cards. And, uh, the first one [50:35] is Mary Earl eral uh, who does [50:36] not wish to speak, who [50:37] s in [50:40] opposition. And then, in order [50:43] of speaker cards here, uh, is [50:45] Emily, is it Walker? [50:46] Walker. [50:58] Walker. Emily. Thank you. [51:06] Okay. Thank you. [51:09] Emily. Walker, PRESIDENT, North [51:14] Hills Homeowners association. [51:16] There are many reasons why the [51:17] North Canyon Ranch project [51:20] should be denied. We in the [51:22] North Hills Homeowners [51:25] Association adamantly opposed [51:27] the North Canyon Ranch project [51:30] and the proposed annexation of [51:33] county islands. If built, the [51:36] North Canyon Ranch Project will [51:38] be a major encroachment into [51:41] wildlife areas. More invasion [51:44] into wildlife areas cause more [51:47] wild animals to invade areas of [51:50] human habitation, as there will [51:52] be building in the hills with [51:54] the North Canyon Ranch Project. [51:57] There will be increased risk of [52:00] fire danger. Southern [52:02] California is prone to [52:04] wildfires, and the risk for [52:06] wildfires in the hills is [52:09] greatly increased, and this [52:11] area in the hills is a high [52:15] risk fire area. It takes a [52:17] tremendous amount of water to [52:20] build anything, especially a [52:22] development of such a massive [52:24] size as the North Canyon Ranch [52:27] project. Also, once the [52:30] development is completed, the [52:31] people who will live in the [52:34] development will use water. [52:37] Currently, there is way too [52:40] much traffic in Simi Valley. [52:42] This development will increase [52:45] traffic considerably. Many [52:48] people live in Simi Valley to [52:50] escape the urban sprawl of [52:53] other areas. They want to live [52:56] in an area with less traffic, [52:59] less building, less density and [53:02] in general, a less hectic [53:05] lifestyle. If approved, the [53:07] North Canyon Ranch project will [53:10] create more congestion and will [53:14] add to urban sprawl. Residents [53:16] of the county islands want to [53:18] remain unincorporated, [53:21] retaining their county status. [53:24] They want to remain semi-rural [53:26] with large lots and animal [53:28] keeping. They do not want to [53:31] lose the animal overlay. If [53:33] annexed into the city, there [53:36] will be more and stricter rules [53:39] and regulations. Also, there [53:41] will be higher property taxes, [53:44] and other taxes will be higher. [53:47] Zoning MAY change and some [53:49] permits will cost more in the [53:52] city. For example, a permit to [53:56] install a new gas furnace costs [54:00] $150 more in the city than in [54:02] the county. Also, trash [54:05] collection is more expensive in [54:08] the city than in the county. In [54:11] conclusion, please reject the [54:14] North Canyon Ranch project and [54:16] the proposed annexation of the [54:20] county islands. These are very [54:24] bad ideas. [54:31] Thank you. [54:52] Next speaker is Annette Cheney. [54:55] Cheney and I live in. [54:58] The Sinaloa Lake area. That [55:01] would be, I believe, eight. Um, [55:03] I neither a lawyer nor a real [55:06] estate agent, so I can just [55:09] talk in general. My house was [55:11] built by my husband in the [55:13] early 60s. It took him seven [55:16] years without any kind of a [55:20] bank loan. Um, he did a [55:22] wonderful job, and they all [55:25] passed everything that he did. [55:28] Um, I would like to continue to [55:32] live there, but when what I see [55:34] is eventually going to happen [55:37] with the annexation, and they [55:38] say we can still have our farm [55:39] animals, that [55:41] s not going to [55:42] continue. I know once it [55:45] becomes city, the rules are [55:47] going to change. Maybe not for [55:50] me, but when I do go to sell or [55:52] my children go to sell, we [55:53] won [55:54] t be able to have the [55:55] variety. We [55:56] ll have the three [55:57] dogs and three cats and that [56:01] will be it. Um, the other thing [56:05] is, you said that, uh, about [56:06] sewers and things like that, [56:09] that that would not be changed. [56:11] I know it will be. We do not [56:14] have sidewalks or streetlights [56:18] or sewer. And I can see that [56:21] happening. Um, whether we have [56:23] to pay directly or our taxes go [56:27] way up to pay for it. Um, it [56:29] would be wonderful if we had [56:32] some kind of a paper that was [56:35] legitimate that would stay in [56:37] force forever, that we could [56:39] continue to have the animals, [56:42] not have those other amenities. [56:44] Uh, I like the trash service [56:45] that we have. It is cheaper [56:48] than waste management. I don [56:48] t [56:49] want to go back to that. My [56:51] husband passed two years ago. [56:53] My income is now half of what [56:57] it used to be. So what I [56:57] m [56:58] doing is struggling to stay [57:00] there. And I can see this is [57:03] going to make it more difficult [57:06] in the end. One other question. [57:09] Um, the development at the end [57:12] of, uh, uh, uh, arranger, i [57:14] think it was not arranger. [57:16] Sequoia. Um, I have friends [57:17] that live up in that [57:19] neighborhood. And they said [57:21] during that time there was so [57:23] much dust. Some of the people [57:26] got very sick. Um, this is at [57:29] our and and I, I know the way [57:31] the winds blow. How are they [57:33] going to do that? So we aren [57:33] t [57:35] going to have the dust flying [57:38] all over, which includes that, [57:39] um. Oh, it [57:41] s a fungus that you [57:43] get in your lungs. I forget [57:43] what it [57:44] s called, but I [57:45] m 87, [57:45] so I [57:46] m not going to remember [57:53] everything. Um. But I don [57:53] t [57:54] know what somebody said. [57:55] Was. [57:58] Am I am I done? Can I can I [58:01] keep talking? Okay. So, um, [58:05] anyway, uh, this is scary for [58:06] me and a number of my other [58:09] neighbors who are old or as old [58:12] as me and I. I don [58:13] t see any of [58:16] them here. It was a struggle [58:18] for me to get here, but I [58:21] needed to come. I, I would like [58:24] to save our area around Sinaloa [58:25] Lake and live the way we [58:26] ve [58:26] always lived. It [58:27] s just [58:30] beautiful. Um, I lived over in [58:32] the San Fernando Valley years [58:35] ago, and again, city. And there [58:37] were all these restrictions. [58:38] So, um, we [58:40] ve enjoyed all these [58:41] years with our grandchildren [58:43] and all the animals that we [58:43] ve [58:46] had. Um, I would like that to [58:48] continue, not just [58:51] grandfathered in for me, but [58:54] somehow, if you are, if we do [58:56] have to have that, that we can [58:59] still have a lot of those same [59:02] amenities without the fancy [59:03] stuff on the side, that [59:03] s going [59:07] to cost us a fortune. I think [59:07] I [59:08] m done. And I really liked [59:10] with this first lady, said MRS. [59:11] Walker. I can [59:12] t remember the [59:15] name already, but, uh, thank [59:17] you. I wish I could say more, [59:17] but I didn [59:18] t write anything [59:20] down. [59:30] Thank you. [59:31] The next speaker we have is [59:42] David Hardy. [59:45] And here I am. I knew instantly [59:46] what he was talking about with [59:48] density. But to me, density is [59:49] the number of cars that come [59:51] down township and swing down [59:54] reservoir. And just make nice. [59:56] So that [59:57] s what I consider to be [1:00:07] density. Anyway. Um. Uh, John [1:00:09] Tolson, Commissioner Tolson, I [1:00:11] heard you say Becerra, as you [1:00:13] on your zoom call. What was his [1:00:16] position on zoom call? Who does [1:00:18] he represent? [1:00:18] I [1:00:19] m right here. I [1:00:19] m with. I [1:00:20] m [1:00:20] with the builder. [1:00:21] Oh, there you go. Oh, that [1:00:22] s [1:00:22] you, right? [1:00:22] Yeah. [1:00:22] It [1:00:23] s me. [1:00:27] You get more gray hair. And I [1:00:32] get shorter. Anyway, the young [1:00:33] lady did a wonderful job [1:00:35] reading, uh, off the [1:00:36] statistics. And I [1:00:36] m wondering [1:00:38] where can I find the financial [1:00:39] statistics that were presented [1:00:43] on the slides? So somebody tell [1:00:45] me where I could find them. So [1:00:45] I haven [1:00:46] t seen them anyway. [1:00:46] Yeah, we [1:00:47] ll answer those [1:00:48] questions for you. [1:00:48] Thank you. [1:00:51] Oh, okay. Okay. So she she [1:00:52] stated that it [1:00:53] s hard for me to [1:01:00] read this. The commission [1:01:02] commissions are discouraging [1:01:04] urban sprawl. That [1:01:04] s what she [1:01:07] read that, uh, but continuing [1:01:11] on preserving open space and [1:01:13] prime agricultural lands. I [1:01:13] don [1:01:14] t think this does that in [1:01:17] very good stead. Frankly, if [1:01:20] you told me that we were trying [1:01:21] to do something for the town [1:01:23] center and build a customer [1:01:25] base for them, and I understand [1:01:27] that. But this doesn [1:01:28] t do it. [1:01:34] And annexation can be modified. [1:01:35] We all read this. I [1:01:38] m sure, and [1:01:41] it can be changed. And you as a [1:01:42] planning commission, have the [1:01:43] right to make changes to it or [1:01:46] suggestions for it. And you can [1:01:48] do that. And the city [1:01:49] commission, I [1:01:50] m sorry, the city [1:01:53] council, they can do that to [1:01:54] the only one who can [1:01:54] t do it in [1:01:56] the room is me and the other [1:01:58] neighbors. We can [1:02:00] t do that. [1:02:02] But we can. We can lobby for it [1:02:03] to be done because it could be [1:02:05] some changes. Because you [1:02:05] re [1:02:06] only you [1:02:08] re annexing seven of [1:02:11] the nine islands. So that tells [1:02:12] you that you can make changes [1:02:16] to it. And frankly, uh, none of [1:02:17] my neighbors want to be in the [1:02:21] city. And I can tell you, uh, [1:02:24] yeah, they mentioned the trash. [1:02:26] My trash is probably one third [1:02:28] the expense that it was when it [1:02:30] was in the city. And that [1:02:30] s a [1:02:32] big difference, going from like [1:02:37] $85 to $25. Oops. This is faded [1:02:40] white, just that I can see it. [1:02:43] Uh, and then do yourself, do do [1:02:45] us all a favor. Drive down [1:02:46] township, look for the center [1:02:48] of the road, and then as you [1:02:51] make the swing down reservoir, [1:02:53] look at the difference. Okay? [1:02:55] On the on township, you you [1:02:56] have a hard time finding the [1:02:58] center of the road in spots [1:02:58] because it [1:03:00] s not marked. You [1:03:02] come down reservoir. The road [1:03:03] is black. There [1:03:03] s yellow [1:03:04] markers. So you [1:03:05] re in there and [1:03:06] everywhere. And and it [1:03:07] s much [1:03:10] easier to traverse and and you [1:03:11] just need to consider those [1:03:12] things because they [1:03:12] re [1:03:14] important to us. And I [1:03:15] ve been [1:03:18] there 46 years paying taxes. [1:03:18] Why don [1:03:19] t I have a say in [1:03:19] what [1:03:22] s going on? You know, a [1:03:25] vote of some sort. So I don [1:03:25] t [1:03:25] know. And I [1:03:26] m sure all these [1:03:27] other people are asking the [1:03:29] same question. And you could [1:03:30] tell for people to get out in [1:03:32] 103 degree heat and come to a [1:03:34] meeting, it must be important [1:03:39] to them. So anyway, I still [1:03:39] don [1:03:40] t know what your position [1:03:44] is right? Okay. I [1:03:44] m done. Thank [1:03:51] you. Thank you. [1:03:57] Okay. The next speaker is Lana. [1:04:01] Coffey. Got it. Thank you. [1:04:02] That came out really great [1:04:03] because Dave is my neighbor. [1:04:04] Literally my next door. Oh, [1:04:07] there you are. Hi, there. [1:04:07] You [1:04:08] re. Give them these [1:04:09] letters. [1:04:11] I forgot. [1:04:11] Can I pass these? [1:04:12] Oh, no. [1:04:13] It just. [1:04:13] In your speech. [1:04:14] At the end of your speech. Oh, [1:04:16] I got some letters for you. [1:04:17] You want me to read them? You [1:04:18] want me to read them? [1:04:19] No, no. [1:04:19] Or just give it. [1:04:20] To them? Yeah. [1:04:21] So I [1:04:22] m going to make this short [1:04:23] and sweet. My name is Lana [1:04:26] Zukowski. Um, I purchased my [1:04:27] house because it was [1:04:29] unincorporated, uh, back in [1:04:31] 2020. And that was one of my [1:04:33] main reasons for purchasing [1:04:35] that property. Um, I moved out [1:04:37] of the city of Los Angeles in [1:04:40] the Valley. Horrible, horrible [1:04:42] experience. And when we moved [1:04:44] into the unincorporated part of [1:04:46] Simi Valley, it was safe. It [1:04:49] was calm, it was quiet. Yeah. [1:04:49] We don [1:04:50] t have streetlights. We [1:04:50] don [1:04:52] t have sidewalks. But you [1:04:53] know what? We have peace of [1:04:54] mind. We don [1:04:55] t have a lot of [1:04:56] commotion. We don [1:04:57] t have to [1:04:59] deal with. Excuse me, the bs of [1:05:01] most of the my friends that [1:05:02] live in the city of Simi [1:05:04] Valley. So I [1:05:05] m opposed, um, [1:05:06] against this. I also want to [1:05:08] ask you guys, what benefit will [1:05:10] r us as residents of the [1:05:12] islands get from annexation? [1:05:16] Besides an increase in taxes? [1:05:18] Besides having to change a [1:05:19] bunch of stuff on our [1:05:20] properties because now it [1:05:20] s [1:05:22] going to be under city instead [1:05:23] of Ventura County, Ventura [1:05:25] County is much more lenient and [1:05:28] much more easier to deal with, [1:05:30] you know? So I [1:05:30] m not happy [1:05:32] about that. Uh, I [1:05:32] d like to [1:05:33] know from you guys what, [1:05:35] besides those two things that I [1:05:36] mentioned, what benefit I [1:05:36] m [1:05:38] going to get from being a city [1:05:40] member? Also, I want to know [1:05:41] what happens to the residents [1:05:43] of the islands of the project [1:05:43] doesn [1:05:44] t get built. So you guys [1:05:46] annex our properties, which I [1:05:48] see as a city grab. And all of [1:05:50] a sudden stuff happens and the [1:05:51] project doesn [1:05:53] t go forward, but [1:05:53] we [1:05:58] re still annexed. Okay? And [1:05:59] the other thing is we do not [1:06:01] have enough power in the city [1:06:04] of Simi Valley. We all know [1:06:07] power outages, brownouts. So [1:06:07] now you [1:06:08] re talking about [1:06:12] putting in another 2000 homes. [1:06:13] Where are we going to get the [1:06:16] electricity from 2000 homes. A [1:06:16] little. [1:06:17] More. [1:06:18] 200, 200. [1:06:22] And how many multi. Uh, 207. [1:06:24] And the multifamily. [1:06:26] Including the multi-family. [1:06:27] Okay. Anyway, where are we [1:06:28] going to get the power for all [1:06:31] of this. I mean I [1:06:31] m sure if you [1:06:33] all live in city, you [1:06:33] ve all [1:06:35] experienced brownouts, [1:06:37] blackouts, power outages, my [1:06:38] friends, uh, off of corner, a [1:06:40] couple, uh, Thanksgivings ago [1:06:42] had no power for four days. [1:06:43] Okay, so now we [1:06:44] re putting in [1:06:46] all of these new people, plus [1:06:47] the noise from the [1:06:49] construction. The roads got [1:06:50] damaged from all the trucks [1:06:52] going to the to the dump [1:06:54] because of the fires. So now [1:06:54] we [1:06:55] re going to damage our roads [1:06:56] somewhere. We [1:06:56] re going to cause [1:06:57] some more traffic. We [1:06:58] re going [1:06:59] to ruin our freeways. We [1:06:59] re [1:07:02] going to make it horribly [1:07:03] impossible to get up to the dog [1:07:06] park, which I usually frequent, [1:07:07] you know, so not happy about [1:07:10] that. Um, also, what I want to [1:07:13] say is, you guys, this is [1:07:15] number four of your on the [1:07:17] other side of the map, uh, is [1:07:19] the city required to request [1:07:20] annexation of unincorporated [1:07:23] islands? Lafco law does not [1:07:25] require a city to request the [1:07:26] annexation of unincorporated [1:07:27] islands. The city is free to [1:07:29] make that choice. So you guys [1:07:30] make that choice. So please [1:07:32] rescind that choice. We do not [1:07:34] want to be on it. I do not want [1:07:37] to be a part of Simi Valley, [1:07:38] okay? Because you do not want [1:07:41] to know how I vote. Okay. So [1:07:42] all I have to say is I believe [1:07:44] that this is a city grab for [1:07:46] properties and I oppose it. [1:07:47] Stop the annexation. You asked [1:07:49] for it. Rescind the application [1:07:56] and leave us the heck alone. [1:08:03] Thank you. [1:08:05] And I believe our last speaker [1:08:25] card is Vern oath. There we go. [1:08:25] Hi. That [1:08:28] s Vern Orth Island [1:08:30] eight, Island eight. [1:08:31] Yeah. [1:08:35] Um, personally, I think this [1:08:36] agreement is between the [1:08:38] developer and the city of Simi. [1:08:39] I don [1:08:41] t really like seeing more [1:08:44] open space getting paved over, [1:08:47] but my big my big, uh, [1:08:49] complaint is this annexation [1:08:50] thing of the other islands. [1:08:50] It [1:08:53] s our lafco rep here today [1:08:56] at the last meeting. Uh, we [1:08:57] really had to pin him down. He [1:08:58] admitted that [1:08:59] s not part of the [1:09:00] code. That [1:09:02] s their policy. And [1:09:05] if you have, uh, the California [1:09:09] code, five, six, 375, it states [1:09:12] Lafco MAY not mandate or [1:09:14] require annexation, and it [1:09:14] s up [1:09:17] to the residents of that island [1:09:21] to request that. So we keep [1:09:22] hearing this. It [1:09:23] s required. [1:09:23] It [1:09:24] s mandated. We have to do [1:09:25] this. And that [1:09:26] s simply not [1:09:28] true. So that [1:09:29] s all I got to [1:09:30] say. [1:09:40] Thank you. [1:09:42] Okay. Uh, are there any [1:09:43] comments from staff regarding [1:09:45] statements made during the [1:09:51] public hearing? And deputy city [1:09:52] planner as well? [1:09:53] Do you want to start? You want [1:09:54] me to start? [1:09:54] I [1:09:55] ll start with Elizabeth. [1:09:59] Okay. Elizabeth. [1:10:02] Um, so starting with Emily [1:10:04] Walker, she made comments about [1:10:07] the wildfires. Um, just as a [1:10:08] note, this project will [1:10:09] continue to be reviewed by the [1:10:11] Ventura County Fire Department. [1:10:14] They have printed they have [1:10:16] done a draft preliminary review [1:10:22] and approval of the, um. Oh, my [1:10:23] gosh, the board just escaped [1:10:26] me. The, um, the fuel [1:10:28] modification plan. Thank you. [1:10:32] Um, and this is the approved [1:10:33] fuel modification. This is the [1:10:35] acceptable fuel modification [1:10:36] plan. But as we move forward [1:10:37] with building permits, they [1:10:37] re [1:10:38] going to continue reviewing [1:10:40] this to ensure that it complies [1:10:43] with, um, with current rules. [1:10:46] Um, there were questions about [1:10:49] water. Um, Ventura, uh, City [1:10:50] Waterworks District eight has [1:10:52] reviewed it. This uses, um, [1:10:55] only 5% of the surplus, um, [1:10:57] water supply that we have. So [1:10:57] there [1:11:00] s water available. Um, [1:11:02] she had concerns about losing [1:11:04] the animal overlay staff has [1:11:05] studied the zoning maps to [1:11:07] ensure that the animal overlays [1:11:08] that are allowed by the county [1:11:10] continue is, upon annexation [1:11:13] into the city. Um, Island [1:11:15] eight, we did update to include [1:11:17] animal um, the animal overlay [1:11:22] with the pre zone. Um, MISS [1:11:25] Cheney, um, she has concerns [1:11:27] about septic continue with the [1:11:30] animals. Um, and the dust [1:11:32] mitigation. So city staff has [1:11:32] identified that we [1:11:33] re going to [1:11:34] continue to allow the septic [1:11:35] systems. We [1:11:35] re not going to [1:11:37] force connection to the sewer [1:11:41] upon annexation. Um, Runkle, [1:11:42] uh, she had concerns about the [1:11:45] dust. The, uh, mitigation [1:11:47] measures from the eir and the [1:11:49] air quality section do require [1:11:50] that there be dust mitigation [1:11:52] during construction. Um, [1:11:53] normally they put silt fencing [1:11:55] up on the fences to keep, to [1:11:57] try to keep the dust in, um, [1:11:58] contained within the property, [1:12:00] as well as having water trucks [1:12:01] to water it down, especially in [1:12:05] high wind events. Um, MR. [1:12:07] Hardy, he has questions about [1:12:08] where to find the fiscal impact [1:12:10] analysis that is attached to [1:12:12] the development agreement, [1:12:13] which is included in tonight [1:12:13] s [1:12:17] staff report. Packet. Um, it [1:12:17] s [1:12:17] a it [1:12:19] s a, um, it [1:12:21] s an exhibit [1:12:22] to it. I believe it [1:12:23] s exhibit [1:12:28] b. Um. [1:12:30] Was that in front table? [1:12:31] The report is posted on the [1:12:32] website. It [1:12:33] s like an 800 page [1:12:35] report. [1:12:36] Um, he also made comments that [1:12:37] the Planning commission and [1:12:38] City council have the ability [1:12:40] to change the island annexation [1:12:42] policy. That policy is state [1:12:43] law. Um, it [1:12:45] s not a policy [1:12:48] that, um, that the city has, [1:12:50] uh, regulations, uh, has the [1:12:52] ability to regulate that state [1:12:53] law. And then it [1:12:53] s policy [1:13:00] adopted by Lafco. Um. MISS [1:13:02] Zukofsky, she had questions and [1:13:04] concerns about the electricity. [1:13:05] Um, our city manager [1:13:06] s office [1:13:09] is works with Edison to ensure [1:13:11] that our that our projects are [1:13:11] on Edison [1:13:14] s map. Um, and it [1:13:14] s [1:13:17] anticipated that we are, um, [1:13:18] that we [1:13:18] re going to be looking [1:13:20] for electricity. She also said [1:13:20] that there [1:13:21] s going to be 2000 [1:13:22] homes. That [1:13:23] s untrue. There [1:13:23] s [1:13:27] 207, 157 single family homes, [1:13:35] 50 multifamily. And then, um. [1:13:38] MR. Orth, uh, made the comment [1:13:39] that I told them it [1:13:40] s not code [1:13:41] to annex islands. It [1:13:42] s policy. [1:13:42] Um, it [1:13:45] s a policy. It [1:13:46] s [1:13:47] contained in the state in the [1:13:49] 2000, Bill Lafco adopted, [1:13:53] adopted their policy. Um, and [1:13:53] it [1:13:55] s not a requirement that the [1:13:56] city today file an application [1:13:59] just to annex the islands. The [1:13:59] reason why we [1:14:00] re annexing the [1:14:01] islands is because we have the [1:14:03] North Canyon development and [1:14:04] Lafco policies. If you [1:14:04] re going [1:14:07] to take North Canyons, you have [1:14:09] to also apply and take the [1:14:10] islands. And that [1:14:11] s why we [1:14:11] re [1:14:12] here tonight with the island [1:14:14] annexation. [1:14:16] As a complete contrast to what [1:14:18] this paper says. Number four, [1:14:19] uh, the other side of the map, [1:14:21] complete contrast of what this [1:14:24] paper actually says. [1:14:25] All right, let [1:14:25] s, uh, let [1:14:25] s [1:14:28] hold the comments. [1:14:29] Uh. [1:14:31] Did you, uh, do a little more [1:14:34] detail? Elizabeth, on, uh, how [1:14:37] the 2000, uh, clarification, [1:14:39] uh, changed the document that [1:14:40] this lady is talking about [1:14:41] here. [1:14:44] Right. So, um, state the 2000 [1:14:46] state law, uh, the city [1:14:49] legislature, in order to their [1:14:52] their purpose behind it was to, [1:14:54] um, make sure that, uh, [1:14:57] underserved county islands [1:14:59] were, um, were annexed into the [1:15:00] cities. However, it [1:15:01] s a blanket [1:15:03] statement. It covers all county [1:15:03] islands. It doesn [1:15:04] t focus on [1:15:07] underserved. Our county islands [1:15:07] aren [1:15:08] t necessarily underserved, [1:15:10] but they are islands that don [1:15:10] t [1:15:12] receive services from the city. [1:15:17] Um. I have the faq from Lafco. [1:15:19] Here. [1:15:20] Yeah, they say law does not [1:15:22] require city to request the [1:15:24] annexation of unincorporated [1:15:25] islands. Those cities are free [1:15:27] to make such a request to Lafco [1:15:28] at any time. And I think that [1:15:31] statement is meaning that the [1:15:33] city does not have to file an [1:15:35] independent application to [1:15:38] Lafco for the island annexation. [1:15:44] Okay. [1:15:49] No, no. [1:15:49] I [1:15:50] m sorry. Thank you. [1:15:52] Um, the city doesn [1:15:52] t have to [1:15:54] make an independent island [1:15:57] annexation request. The island [1:16:01] annexations are being included [1:16:03] with the annexation because [1:16:03] we [1:16:04] re annexing North Canyon [1:16:06] Ranch, and it exceeds the 40 [1:16:08] acres in size. And Lafco policy [1:16:11] says city. If you annex North [1:16:16] Canyon Ranch, you north. If you [1:16:17] annex north, if you request to [1:16:18] annex North Canyon Ranch and [1:16:19] it [1:16:20] s approved in order to [1:16:22] record it city, you must file [1:16:23] application to annex the [1:16:24] islands. [1:16:27] So in that it was brought up [1:16:27] that there [1:16:28] s two islands that [1:16:28] aren [1:16:29] t being annexed. [1:16:31] Correct. An island six and [1:16:31] nine. [1:16:32] Yeah. And the exception for [1:16:33] those. [1:16:33] Uh, they don [1:16:35] t meet Lafco [1:16:38] definition of being a island [1:16:39] that needs to be annexed. [1:16:39] They [1:16:40] re not. They use the word [1:16:40] they [1:16:42] re not developed. Uh, [1:16:45] meaning that Island six, which [1:16:47] is the triangle shaped island [1:16:48] just north of us here. It only [1:16:50] has a single family residence [1:16:50] on it. It [1:16:51] s not fully developed [1:16:53] to its full potential. And then [1:16:56] Island nine is a vacant lot, [1:16:58] um, off of Kuna. Right. And [1:16:59] it [1:17:00] s completely undeveloped. So [1:17:00] they don [1:17:02] t meet the definition [1:17:04] of lafco to require the island [1:17:05] annexation. [1:17:06] Thank you for that [1:17:17] clarification. [1:17:17] On this. [1:17:19] Uh, would the applicant at this [1:17:26] time like to respond? [1:17:26] We [1:17:27] re going to ask Elaine [1:17:29] Freeman to address some more of [1:17:30] the lafco issues. [1:17:30] She [1:17:32] s she [1:17:32] s. [1:17:32] Pretty well versed. [1:17:32] In. [1:17:34] This area. [1:17:35] Yes. Elaine Freeman, I [1:17:36] m a [1:17:37] lafco. I was a lafco [1:17:39] commissioner for 12 or 12 [1:17:43] years. Um, Lafco actually [1:17:44] formed in the late eight, in [1:17:47] 1963, I believe, and it was [1:17:50] amended when Hertzberg was on [1:17:53] the Senate creating the 40 acre [1:17:57] process. Lafco is a state [1:18:01] mandated agency. Each county in [1:18:03] the state must have what its [1:18:05] purpose is orderly development, [1:18:08] preservation of agriculture. [1:18:11] Uh, the Commission does the [1:18:12] annexations. Annexations, [1:18:16] reorganizations. They also do a [1:18:18] municipal service review every [1:18:21] five years on all the agencies [1:18:23] that are covered by Lafco to [1:18:24] make sure they [1:18:25] re operating [1:18:26] under the rules are supposed to [1:18:31] be operating under this, uh, [1:18:33] situation occurred when the [1:18:35] amendment was made to state [1:18:37] law. That clearly stated that [1:18:39] the next annexation that [1:18:41] occurred would require the [1:18:46] bringing in of all islands, um, [1:18:48] with the exception of the 40 [1:18:50] acres. So this is something [1:18:52] that is state law. And I know [1:18:54] there was a comment made to you [1:18:56] or the city could change that [1:18:59] law. Uh, no, it doesn [1:19:00] t work [1:19:01] that way because it is a state [1:19:02] law. So it would have to go [1:19:05] through the state legislature, [1:19:07] create a bill, get it through [1:19:10] the process, and Lafco has a [1:19:13] commission, a statewide, uh [1:19:17] lafco organization. Cal Lafco [1:19:19] would look at the legislation [1:19:21] and determine if it was a [1:19:23] viable piece of legislation [1:19:24] that Cal Lafco would even [1:19:27] support to to change the law [1:19:31] the way it is existed. So it is [1:19:32] not a simple process. It [1:19:33] s a [1:19:36] statewide process. Um, we just [1:19:38] happen to be, at this point of [1:19:41] the legislation, and I know [1:19:41] it [1:19:44] s difficult. A lafco meets [1:19:47] once a month on a Wednesday. [1:19:48] Uh, assuming there [1:19:48] s actions [1:19:51] that need to be taken and it is [1:19:54] a public hearing, and you will [1:19:57] the property owners will be [1:19:59] notified or they should make [1:20:02] sure that they watch the lafco [1:20:07] agenda. Um, but as a city, the [1:20:10] city is actually pretty limited [1:20:12] in their abilities of what they [1:20:14] can do on the annexation, since [1:20:16] it is state law. And I want to [1:20:17] make that really clear. It [1:20:17] s [1:20:17] it [1:20:21] s a state law. And, um, [1:20:24] uncomfortable as that is that [1:20:26] is what the law is. And after [1:20:27] being a commissioner for all [1:20:29] those years, um, I can [1:20:32] sympathize with people, but, [1:20:36] um, the whole point of Lafco is [1:20:38] orderly development. And for [1:20:41] areas to be served by the [1:20:43] organization that is closer to [1:20:46] them, which in this case is the [1:20:49] city of Simi Valley. So if [1:20:49] there [1:20:51] s any questions on Lafco, [1:20:51] I [1:20:54] ll be glad to answer them. [1:20:56] Can you tell us what state law. [1:20:57] That is? [1:20:58] I [1:20:58] m sorry. [1:21:00] What what state law is that? [1:21:02] What is the number? [1:21:03] Um, it [1:21:04] s known as the Cortez. [1:21:08] Cortez. NOx. Hirschberg rule. [1:21:09] That [1:21:11] s what you would look up. [1:21:11] I believe it [1:21:12] s referenced on [1:21:13] the screen. [1:21:13] Yeah, it [1:21:14] s in part of the [1:21:15] presentation. [1:21:18] Yes. All the rules are in [1:21:18] there. It [1:21:19] s. It [1:21:20] s a rather [1:21:23] extensive document. Spells out [1:21:28] everything that can occur. Um, [1:21:31] within the boundaries. Are [1:21:32] there any other questions? [1:21:35] Yeah. So just to summarize, uh, [1:21:37] so by bringing this project in, [1:21:37] we [1:21:40] ve triggered, uh, the lafco, [1:21:42] uh, annexation of the islands. [1:21:43] That is correct. [1:21:44] So, uh, we [1:21:44] re we [1:21:45] re in a binary [1:21:48] situation is right. We don [1:21:48] t [1:21:49] approve this project. We don [1:21:49] t [1:21:52] trigger lafco. But the next [1:21:52] project. [1:21:54] The next annexation, you will. [1:21:54] It [1:21:56] s inevitable. Right? And [1:21:57] there will be a next one. [1:21:59] Yes. [1:22:01] Thank you. Um. [1:22:04] I have a question to, uh. There [1:22:06] is no way for us to separate [1:22:07] this. I know the developer [1:22:09] would love that too, but is [1:22:11] there a way for us to separate [1:22:12] that? No. [1:22:13] Thank you. [1:22:15] And, Commissioner Tolson, [1:22:16] you [1:22:17] re in the queue. [1:22:19] There was one of the public [1:22:22] speakers asked what happens if [1:22:23] the project isn [1:22:24] t built? Does [1:22:28] the annexation still happen? [1:22:31] I would have to say that once [1:22:33] the annexation is approved and [1:22:36] becomes part of the city, it is [1:22:42] part of the city. But I they [1:22:45] they the applicant has prepared [1:22:47] all the legals, all the maps, [1:22:47] everything that [1:22:50] s required. Um, [1:22:52] for lafco. That was a [1:22:54] requirement of the developer to [1:22:56] get everything ready for Lafco. [1:22:59] And Lafco is quite aware of [1:23:04] this process going on. Um, from [1:23:05] my experience, I would doubt [1:23:07] very much if someone would take [1:23:09] it this far and then not build [1:23:14] the project. Just a guess. [1:23:15] What? Just another [1:23:17] clarification. So the, uh, the [1:23:20] lafco this the trigger for the [1:23:22] lafco and, uh, so both of these [1:23:23] processes are running [1:23:24] concurrently, right? [1:23:25] Correct. [1:23:25] Right. And they [1:23:26] ll continue [1:23:27] down that timeline [1:23:30] concurrently. So if, if, uh, [1:23:31] one can [1:23:32] t happen without the [1:23:34] other, right. The builder can [1:23:35] t [1:23:37] complete unless, uh, the [1:23:38] annexation. [1:23:39] Is correct, they [1:23:40] re required [1:23:40] and it [1:23:42] s within the city of the [1:23:42] city [1:23:45] s, sewer boundary. And so [1:23:46] it has always been anticipated [1:23:48] it would be brought into the [1:23:49] city. [1:23:50] Okay. That clears that up for [1:23:51] me. Thank you. [1:23:51] You [1:23:52] re welcome. Any other [1:23:55] questions? Yes. [1:23:57] So what about this development? [1:23:59] Just be specific. Puts it that [1:24:01] it has to be incorporated in or [1:24:02] the islands need to be [1:24:03] incorporated in. Other [1:24:04] developments have come into [1:24:07] play and see me. But what makes [1:24:09] this development one that [1:24:10] triggers Lafco? [1:24:10] It [1:24:12] s the first one since the [1:24:14] last annexation. [1:24:15] Okay. [1:24:20] Thank you. [1:24:21] Thank you very much. [1:24:25] Okay. Any any other, uh, any [1:24:26] other comments that the [1:24:26] applicant I [1:24:27] d like to respond [1:24:28] to? [1:24:29] Well, yeah, I just I would, I [1:24:31] would say just a couple things. [1:24:34] One, you know, and what Elaine [1:24:36] said about Lafco, you know, in [1:24:38] state law with the Hertzberg [1:24:42] bill, um, and their policy to [1:24:44] bring in these unincorporated [1:24:46] islands, see, me and Camarillo [1:24:48] are the only two communities [1:24:50] that have these islands left. [1:24:51] All the rest of them, Oxnard, [1:24:53] Ventura, they all of them have [1:24:56] been those those issues, uh, of [1:24:58] not having or having these [1:25:00] islands not incorporated in the [1:25:02] cities has been remedied in all [1:25:03] of the other cities over the [1:25:07] last 25 years. And so this is [1:25:09] we can say that right now, this [1:25:11] is the this project has [1:25:13] triggered this. But if let [1:25:14] s [1:25:14] say for some reason, we didn [1:25:15] t [1:25:16] build this project, you [1:25:16] ve said [1:25:18] no. And, you know, we had to go [1:25:21] away. Laugh goes goal and [1:25:23] stated goal is to remedy this [1:25:25] issue and bring these islands [1:25:26] into the city as part of their [1:25:27] order of the development. It [1:25:28] s [1:25:29] going to happen at some point, [1:25:32] no matter what. And that [1:25:32] s [1:25:32] that [1:25:33] s I mean, they [1:25:34] re driving [1:25:34] this. The city isn [1:25:35] t driving [1:25:35] this. We [1:25:36] re not driving. This [1:25:38] laugh goes driving it because [1:25:39] they want those islands [1:25:40] incorporated in the city, [1:25:42] because that makes sense for [1:25:44] orderly development. Look, I, [1:25:45] you know, I was born in the [1:25:49] house on Avenida in the island [1:25:51] 59 years ago. And, uh, and I [1:25:51] m [1:25:52] proud to say I still own that [1:25:54] house in the island. Uh, and [1:25:56] for the 20 years that I served [1:25:57] on the city council, my mom [1:25:57] couldn [1:26:00] t vote for me. Uh, in [1:26:01] any of the elections. So one of [1:26:02] the questions was, what are the [1:26:05] benefits that you get that you [1:26:05] don [1:26:07] t get now? Well, you get to [1:26:09] come down here as a resident [1:26:11] and now constituent that no [1:26:14] longer, you know, is, you know, [1:26:15] a non constituent in the city. [1:26:17] And when the city makes you a [1:26:19] promise. And I liked what one [1:26:20] woman, I think it was a lady [1:26:22] who came up and said, put it in [1:26:25] writing and commit to us that [1:26:25] you won [1:26:27] t take away our animal [1:26:28] overlay. Commit to us. You [1:26:29] won [1:26:30] t make you know, the the [1:26:33] sewer mandatory and those types [1:26:35] of things. Um, if you try to [1:26:37] change it and you come down as [1:26:38] an unincorporated island [1:26:41] person, you really are speaking [1:26:42] as a, you might as well be from [1:26:44] San Fernando Valley. And the [1:26:45] one lady said, I don [1:26:45] t want to [1:26:46] be part of Sammy. I mean, so [1:26:48] you could be anywhere if you [1:26:48] don [1:26:49] t want to be part of Simi [1:26:50] Valley. And so but if you [1:26:51] re a [1:26:53] constituent resident, then you [1:26:54] can come back down and hold [1:26:56] your city council accountable [1:26:58] to the commitments that they [1:26:58] ve [1:27:00] made. And so I think there [1:27:00] s [1:27:00] there [1:27:01] s just a little different [1:27:02] way. A lot of the other issues [1:27:03] I can [1:27:05] t argue about, uh, you [1:27:06] know, but I think the city has [1:27:08] gone above and beyond to make [1:27:10] sure that these residents, if [1:27:12] they are incorporated, get to [1:27:13] maintain the quality of life [1:27:15] and the style of life that [1:27:15] they [1:27:16] ve become accustomed to. I [1:27:18] know I watched my mom, my mom [1:27:19] passed away four years ago, [1:27:21] and, you know, she didn [1:27:21] t do a [1:27:23] lot of landscaping in the [1:27:24] house, but she kept her weeds [1:27:26] mowed. You know, she she lived [1:27:27] a very simple life out there, [1:27:28] and she loved it. And she was [1:27:30] part of the hoa that the that [1:27:32] the lady came up and spoke [1:27:34] from. Um, it [1:27:36] s a unique part of [1:27:39] Simi Valley and the lifestyle [1:27:41] in those areas are unique. And [1:27:42] I loved it growing up there. [1:27:45] And, you know, maybe when I [1:27:46] outgrow my two storey house and [1:27:46] I can [1:27:48] t climb stairs anymore, [1:27:48] that [1:27:48] s why I [1:27:49] m keeping that [1:27:50] house, because I might move [1:27:52] back into that one storey, 1900 [1:27:53] square foot house that we built [1:27:54] in 1964. Because it [1:27:55] s it [1:27:55] s a [1:27:56] great it [1:27:56] s a great house and [1:27:57] it [1:27:58] s a great area, but it is [1:28:00] literally surrounded by the [1:28:03] city of Simi Valley. And so I [1:28:04] would I would leave it at, you [1:28:06] know, with that, this, this, [1:28:09] this annexation, uh, was always [1:28:11] meant to be the the pads were [1:28:14] built, the city certified them [1:28:16] the road, you know, circulation [1:28:18] element was looking to make [1:28:20] those connections. And we [1:28:20] re [1:28:22] coming in under the amount of [1:28:23] housing that could go there. [1:28:23] It [1:28:24] s a good project for this [1:28:27] community. Um, but I do I [1:28:28] understand the residents [1:28:30] concerns. Uh, I will I will ask [1:28:32] one question. It [1:28:32] s my [1:28:33] understanding, and I think the [1:28:36] staff mentioned it, that it [1:28:36] ll [1:28:38] take about a year from the time [1:28:40] this approval happens, if the [1:28:41] city council approves it, the [1:28:42] letter gets sent to Lafco [1:28:45] before our annexation of just [1:28:47] our project site comes into the [1:28:49] city. Then they said there [1:28:49] s a [1:28:52] five year window that could be [1:28:55] asked for with Lafco to delay [1:28:56] annexation of the islands for [1:28:58] an additional five years. And [1:28:59] my understanding that there [1:28:59] s [1:29:00] two one year additions on top [1:29:02] of that for a total of seven [1:29:03] years, which would give the [1:29:05] residents potentially eight [1:29:07] more years from now before they [1:29:09] they would come into the city. [1:29:16] Is that correct? [1:29:16] I don [1:29:17] t know about those [1:29:19] extensions. I heard that as [1:29:20] well at the, you know, the [1:29:22] concurrent timeline of the [1:29:23] annexation could extend five [1:29:24] years. [1:29:25] Right? My understanding is we [1:29:28] can request those, uh, those [1:29:29] extensions and allow those [1:29:31] residents to have the security [1:29:33] to know that their annexations [1:29:34] won [1:29:36] t be complete for roughly [1:29:37] eight additional. [1:29:38] Years. [1:29:38] We [1:29:38] ll have to. [1:29:39] Approve that. Right. [1:29:40] But our recommendation. [1:29:42] Right. So, but the city can [1:29:43] request that. So the city could [1:29:44] request that. My understanding [1:29:46] is Lafco has never denied those [1:29:49] requests. And so at least that [1:29:50] would give these residents [1:29:51] another, let [1:29:52] s say, eight [1:29:54] years, 7 or 8 years to not [1:29:57] worry while the city is putting [1:30:00] those concerns in writing for [1:30:01] them. So anyway, I [1:30:02] m going to [1:30:03] end there, and I thank you for [1:30:03] your time and your [1:30:05] consideration tonight. [1:30:06] All right. [1:30:12] Thank you, Lynn. Okay. At this [1:30:13] time, if there are no further [1:30:13] questions, we [1:30:14] ll close the [1:30:15] public testimony portion of the [1:30:17] hearing. Are there any comments [1:30:18] or questions from members of [1:30:19] the Planning Commission at this [1:30:23] time? [1:30:24] I see. [1:30:27] I see John and the queue. [1:30:28] I got one question for staff. [1:30:29] And just to just to clarify [1:30:34] about the animal overlay, is [1:30:38] there a is there, um, a sunset [1:30:40] clause on who would have what [1:30:44] animals on these annexed areas [1:30:46] moving forward? [1:30:48] So in terms of if they have [1:30:51] animals in areas that do not [1:30:52] have animal overlays, pre [1:30:56] zoned, um, that is a point of, [1:30:57] of island annexation that staff [1:30:58] hasn [1:31:00] t begun discussing yet. [1:31:04] Um, similar to the um, public [1:31:06] comment about having having a [1:31:08] list of what are we going to [1:31:09] enforce and what are we going [1:31:10] to grandfathered in? That list [1:31:11] also hasn [1:31:13] t been worked on. [1:31:20] Thank you very much. [1:31:21] Commissioner Christmann. [1:31:23] Thank you. I actually have the [1:31:26] list of proposed zoning. It [1:31:26] s [1:31:29] number ten on the staff report. [1:31:32] Um, area five and area seven do [1:31:36] not have any any animal or farm [1:31:39] animal overlay. Um, and I don [1:31:39] t [1:31:42] know if those areas right now [1:31:42] include it [1:31:44] s number page number [1:31:46] ten in the staff report. [1:31:49] So staff did study county [1:31:51] county maps to see if they have [1:31:54] animal overlays on them. Those [1:31:55] two areas that you [1:31:56] re seeing, [1:31:56] they didn [1:31:57] t have an animal [1:32:01] overlay per county zoning. Um, [1:32:03] island eight that were pre [1:32:05] zoning as part of this action, [1:32:07] those residential estate lots [1:32:09] have animal overlays on them [1:32:11] with the with the county. So [1:32:11] we [1:32:12] re continuing we [1:32:12] re bringing [1:32:15] those forward with the with the [1:32:17] annexation with this, um, pre [1:32:18] zoning request to ensure that [1:32:20] they continue to be allowed to [1:32:21] have animals. Um, my [1:32:23] understanding of Commissioner [1:32:25] Tulsans question was for those [1:32:28] properties that have animals in [1:32:29] them that don [1:32:31] t currently have, [1:32:32] um, an animal overlay on them [1:32:34] with the, with the, with the [1:32:35] county. And what [1:32:35] s going to [1:32:37] happen to those animals? [1:32:40] Yeah. Thank you. I also, um, [1:32:42] calculated the overall open [1:32:43] space that is going to stay [1:32:44] open. So it [1:32:45] s a it [1:32:47] s 44%. I [1:32:48] think you said around 44. But [1:32:50] then I added it all together [1:32:51] with the slopes and drainage [1:32:53] and landscaping and parks. And [1:32:53] it [1:32:53] s actually it [1:32:55] s around 68%. [1:32:56] So I [1:32:58] m pretty happy about all [1:32:59] of the open space that is going [1:33:02] to stay there. Um, I [1:33:03] m going to [1:33:04] let somebody else talk. I have [1:33:07] more. [1:33:11] Okay, okay. Uh, a couple people [1:33:14] brought up costs and fees, has [1:33:15] city staff looked into, I [1:33:15] m [1:33:18] assuming now the county is [1:33:20] Athens trash service, where the [1:33:22] city is. Waste management. Is [1:33:23] there that much of a [1:33:24] discrepancy in trash service [1:33:26] fees between those two? [1:33:27] Yes. [1:33:27] Yeah. [1:33:27] Okay. [1:33:29] Okay. [1:33:29] I [1:33:31] ll see if staff has any [1:33:37] answers first. [1:33:39] Sean, I don [1:33:40] t know the cost of [1:33:43] our trash services versus. [1:33:44] I don [1:33:45] t know the exact numbers, [1:33:47] Commissioner, but I did hear, [1:33:50] uh, in a conversation that was [1:33:52] at least $10 per month. More [1:33:53] expensive. [1:33:54] For the city. [1:33:57] For waste management is at [1:33:59] least $10 a month. More than [1:34:02] Athens. So it is an increase it [1:34:03] you know, it could be very [1:34:03] situation. I don [1:34:04] t have the [1:34:06] exact numbers, but yeah, based [1:34:07] on the audience reaction, it [1:34:07] s [1:34:10] very clear that the, um, waste [1:34:14] management is more, um, the [1:34:16] commission could always [1:34:18] recommend that the city council [1:34:24] or, um, it that the, you know, [1:34:27] the applicant or the city, um, [1:34:28] reach out to Waste management [1:34:29] to see if, if and when [1:34:31] annexation does occur, if [1:34:31] there [1:34:32] s some sort of grace [1:34:34] period to for those islands, [1:34:39] perhaps some sort of negotiated [1:34:40] settlement just for those [1:34:41] customers, there MAY be [1:34:43] something, maybe a goodwill [1:34:45] gesture, just a suggestion. [1:34:47] And the other part was [1:34:48] somebody, one of the speakers [1:34:50] brought up, specifically a [1:34:53] permit fee was $107 more for [1:34:55] the city than for the county. [1:34:57] Again, any idea of the validity [1:34:58] of that? I [1:34:58] m assuming it [1:34:59] s a [1:35:02] true statement, but I [1:35:02] m [1:35:03] assuming that we can. [1:35:04] Again, we haven [1:35:05] t studied the [1:35:07] cost comparison between, um, [1:35:08] Ventura County Building [1:35:10] Department permit fees versus [1:35:12] City of Simi Valley building [1:35:13] permit fees. Um, that [1:35:14] s [1:35:15] something that we could study [1:35:16] for city council. [1:35:23] Okay. Thank you. [1:35:27] Any other comments, questions, [1:35:28] questions? [1:35:31] Do you have more questions? Uh. [1:35:32] Lost my question. [1:35:36] Um. [1:35:37] You guys are coming up with [1:35:37] yours. I [1:35:39] ll come up with mine. [1:35:41] Um, one of the things that says [1:35:43] multifamily housing is that [1:35:45] just higher density housing, [1:35:48] like townhomes or truly for [1:35:50] plexus and multifamily. [1:35:54] Um, the multifamily, um, it [1:35:54] would depend upon what the [1:35:56] applicant proposes. Um, [1:35:58] multifamily would cover [1:36:01] attached units. Um, it [1:36:01] s just [1:36:01] it [1:36:03] s not a traditional single [1:36:04] family detached house. [1:36:07] So MR. Becerra, he actually [1:36:08] answered that question because [1:36:11] I asked it was townhomes. [1:36:11] Townhomes. [1:36:13] So no fourplex I mean duplexes [1:36:15] are find individually, but [1:36:18] fourplex is any of those or no. [1:36:19] Four packs. It [1:36:20] s five acres and [1:36:22] it comes down to ten, ten units [1:36:24] per acre. Okay. So the density [1:36:26] on the on the land that it [1:36:26] s [1:36:29] sitting on is quite low. But it [1:36:30] is four packs and there are 50 [1:36:32] of them. But again, it [1:36:32] s ten [1:36:33] units per acre. [1:36:34] Okay. [1:36:41] Thank you. Thank you. [1:36:44] Mine is more of a comment. I [1:36:46] would encourage, uh, the city [1:36:48] to to delay the application of [1:36:49] the annexation of the islands. [1:36:51] If we were to push this project [1:36:54] forward just for the sake of, [1:36:56] uh, giving more time to the [1:36:58] residents and also for the sake [1:37:00] of our police department to be [1:37:02] able to properly prepare for [1:37:04] for the annexation, because [1:37:07] they will have to probably add [1:37:14] more force to it. [1:37:21] Any other comments? Questions? [1:37:23] Okay. At this time, uh, MAY [1:37:24] please have a reading of the [1:37:26] resolution. [1:37:29] Resolution number sb, pc 11 [1:37:32] 2026 a resolution of the [1:37:33] Planning Commission of the City [1:37:35] of Simi Valley recommending to [1:37:38] the City Council approval of [1:37:43] annexation. Annex 0077 General [1:37:48] Plan Amendment gpa 0073. Zone [1:37:53] change z Dash s 0613 plan [1:37:55] Development permit pd Dash [1:38:00] s-105 four. Tentative map tt [1:38:04] Dash 5658. Dash a and [1:38:08] Development Agreement d a 2026 [1:38:12] 00012. Annex and subdivide an [1:38:16] approximately 160.32 acre site [1:38:18] for a 207 unit residential [1:38:22] development consisting of 157 [1:38:25] single family residences, 50 [1:38:27] multifamily units, and open [1:38:28] space located between the [1:38:30] northern terminus of First [1:38:32] Street and the intersection of [1:38:34] Anchor Road and Falcon Street, [1:38:36] and annexation of County Island [1:38:42] properties. Annex, 2024 0001 [1:38:45] Associated Pre Zoning z. [1:38:50] S-20240005 and adopt an [1:38:52] Environmental Impact Report and [1:38:54] mitigation, monitoring and [1:38:58] Reporting Program. [1:39:00] Okay. The chair will now [1:39:02] entertain a motion. [1:39:04] I move to adopt a resolution [1:39:05] recommending to the City [1:39:08] Council approval. Approval of [1:39:17] annex 0077 gpa 0073 z 0613 bds, [1:39:25] 1054 dt 5658 a Da 2026 0001. [1:39:31] Annex 2024 0001 and z 2024 0005 [1:39:33] and the Environmental Impact [1:39:34] Report and the mitigation, [1:39:35] Monitoring and Reporting [1:39:37] Program. [1:39:40] Would you like to add, uh, [1:39:42] recommendations to the council [1:39:42] on that as well? [1:39:45] Yes. Um, the recommendations [1:39:49] were to, uh, delayed the, the, [1:39:52] the, um, annexation as much as [1:39:54] possible is can I within what [1:39:56] is allowed, uh, of the rest of [1:39:58] the islands. [1:40:00] That sounds about right. [1:40:00] Okay. [1:40:04] And, uh, to investigate the [1:40:06] ability to negotiate with waste [1:40:09] management and, uh, the permits [1:40:12] for, for future building. Is [1:40:13] that is that correct? [1:40:15] Yeah, that worked for me. [1:40:18] Anything else? [1:40:19] I think you got the big items [1:40:20] there. [1:40:22] Thank you. I second. [1:40:29] We have a second. Um. I move, [1:40:35] okay, here we go. Uh. We now [1:40:48] have a call for the vote. [1:40:51] The vote passes unanimously. [1:40:53] Okay. Uh, there is no appeal [1:40:55] period for the annexation [1:40:57] general plan amendment, free [1:40:59] zone plan, development permit, [1:41:00] tentative map and development [1:41:02] agreement. And the items will [1:41:04] proceed to the City Council [1:41:04] with the Planning Commission [1:41:05] s [1:41:14] recommendations. Okay. Uh, [1:41:15] we [1:41:18] re now at, uh, proceed to [1:41:19] the next item, which is new [1:41:21] business. And at this time, [1:41:24] under 11, uh, there are no new [1:41:27] business items. Um, oral [1:41:29] communications and reports to [1:41:32] staff. Have anything to report? [1:41:34] Yes. Chairperson Kennedy, [1:41:35] members of the commission. And, [1:41:37] uh, just want to state that, [1:41:39] um, again, for the audience, [1:41:41] the city council hearing has [1:41:43] not yet been scheduled, so [1:41:45] please, um, keep an eye on the [1:41:47] city council website. You can [1:41:48] reach out to staff, including [1:41:50] Elizabeth, myself. As far as an [1:41:52] update to, uh, scheduling of [1:41:54] that item so we can go through [1:41:55] this process at the city [1:41:56] council level. So that [1:41:57] ll be [1:41:59] our next step. And staff is no [1:42:01] other comments on any other [1:42:06] items. [1:42:10] Any comments from staff? Okay. [1:42:12] Uh, do any commissioners have [1:42:13] anything to report? [1:42:15] I just want to thank, uh, [1:42:16] Planning commissioner from 1000 [1:42:23] Oaks from the for the book. [1:42:24] And, uh, I [1:42:25] d like to thank all [1:42:27] the participants tonight. I [1:42:29] know this is educational for a [1:42:31] lot of us, uh, with the Lafco [1:42:33] stuff. So, uh, thank you for, [1:42:36] uh, participating in this [1:42:40] process. Um, now we [1:42:41] re on to, [1:42:43] uh, mobile home rent mediation [1:42:44] board. Does staff has anything [1:42:45] to report? [1:42:46] No items tonight. [1:42:48] A tree advisory board. Does [1:42:50] staff have anything to report? [1:42:52] No items tonight. [1:42:54] All right. Uh, this concludes [1:42:55] the meeting of AUGUST 26th, [1:42:57] 2026. Next scheduled meeting