1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,200 A little background on this property. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,720 In 2007, this these properties were 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:17,349 resied 4 00:00:17,359 --> 00:00:19,920 for a GC general commercial zoning 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,519 district with 26,000 6 00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:26,790 retail. 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,679 In 2021, 8 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:32,719 The applicant came before council and 9 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:43,350 had property resc,000 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,680 square feet of commercial and restaurant 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,600 space. 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,760 The applicant is now requesting to amend 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,280 that site plan and zoning conditions 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,840 of C21-014 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,960 for the development of 45 town homes in 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,680 foot drive restaurant 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,320 rather than reverting to the original GC 18 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:10,479 zoning district. Uh staff is 19 00:01:10,479 --> 00:01:12,240 recommending 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,600 maintaining the existing mixeduse 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,000 additional zoning district rather than 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,280 reverting to DC as that would allow over 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,200 100 plus uses that would not be 24 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,960 appropriate in this area. 25 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:30,880 This is the site plan that was approved 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,429 in 2021. 27 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:38,720 There was a four five story multif 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,680 family building with a parking deck and 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:48,310 that had 163 units 25 units per acre 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,520 and there was 20,49 31 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,600 square ft of commercial and restaurant 32 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,550 space. 33 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:04,709 I'll go over the proposed site plan 34 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:10,389 on the left side is 45 town home units 35 00:02:10,399 --> 00:02:14,309 maintain 36 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:17,680 rear setbacks. There's a side set back 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,630 on 38 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:27,830 setback reduction. 39 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,599 45 40 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:32,160 simple town homes rather than the rental 41 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:37,190 multif family that was proposed before 42 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,470 units on the side will be front entry 43 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,280 units facing Oakdale and will be 44 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,309 facing a 45 00:02:52,319 --> 00:02:55,830 green space. 46 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,360 There's underground storm water 47 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,070 detention proposed in that area 48 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,480 along South Drive. There's a full access 49 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,949 drive 50 00:03:08,959 --> 00:03:15,830 and then there's access drive 51 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,200 the sidewalk sidewalk 52 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:32,390 around the whole properting 53 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,680 the setbacks already approved for the 54 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:41,190 previous plan. 55 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,840 It's a drive-thru restaurant 56 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,440 5,023 57 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,470 ft. 58 00:03:50,480 --> 00:04:00,229 There's a detached canopy over 59 00:04:00,239 --> 00:04:04,470 storm water detention. 60 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:10,630 Full access 61 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:17,830 on South 62 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:19,840 Oak Road. There will be a 10 landscape 63 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:24,639 buffer street trees 64 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:27,919 that are needed. And then to the town 65 00:04:27,919 --> 00:04:40,150 homes, there will be a buffer 66 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,469 right. 67 00:04:44,479 --> 00:04:46,960 All the improvements on South Drive will 68 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,720 be reviewed and approved by GOT 69 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,280 Department of Transportation 70 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:56,320 and any transportation improvements that 71 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,479 are within the county's jurisdiction 72 00:04:58,479 --> 00:05:01,280 will be approved by the county 73 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:06,070 land. 74 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,600 There are five variances. 75 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,960 One is to allow reduction 76 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,800 setback 77 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,400 25 to 12 ft. Two is to allow a drive 78 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,320 through restaurant in the zoning 79 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,080 district. 80 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,600 Three is to allow drive through 81 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,320 facilities and queuing lanes be located 82 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,479 between the restaurant and the adjacent 83 00:05:28,479 --> 00:05:30,160 street. 84 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,400 Four is to allow an additional accessory 85 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,639 structure for 86 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:37,120 camping and five is to allow a garbage 87 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,000 dumpster. 88 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,240 However, it will have a closure and will 89 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,590 be 90 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,919 These are some conceptual elevations of 91 00:05:47,919 --> 00:05:55,830 the town. 92 00:05:55,840 --> 00:05:57,680 And this is elevations for the 93 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:12,230 restaurant 94 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,160 is Recommending approval of the zoning 95 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,080 amendment to revise the site plan 96 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,629 elevation 97 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:22,560 zoning district 98 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,160 45 99 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:29,029 unit acre 53 100 00:06:29,039 --> 00:06:32,639 drive following conditions 101 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:35,360 conditions 102 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,479 requiring underground utilities 103 00:06:38,479 --> 00:06:42,000 burning of construction debris 104 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,759 They will meet our tree ordinance and 105 00:06:43,759 --> 00:06:46,800 landscape plans. 106 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:57,270 Special conditions regarding setbacks. 107 00:06:57,280 --> 00:06:59,199 They will have to meet all fire access 108 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:00,720 requirements, 109 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,880 water sewer 110 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,960 improvements, and storm water 111 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,230 improvements. 112 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,319 Have a foot sidewalk. external 113 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:14,160 sidewalks. 114 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,880 15. They will have to receive approval 115 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,960 from GTO. 116 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:25,589 16 shall not be gated. 117 00:07:25,599 --> 00:07:31,510 requires the deceleration lane 118 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:50,390 deceleration property. 119 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,599 requires any trees in the sight distance 120 00:07:53,599 --> 00:07:57,120 triangles on road. 121 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,000 requires a minimum 122 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:08,869 parking spaces combined. 123 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:12,080 Not to require building along the public 124 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:17,110 sidewalk 125 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:22,150 building 126 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:27,909 31 127 00:08:27,919 --> 00:08:30,240 and 128 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,350 education 129 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:47,910 32 is Max 130 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,800 37 and 38 tie this to the site plan 131 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:57,750 with the application. 132 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,320 is the variance to allow drive-thru 133 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,160 restaurants. 134 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,519 41 is the variance to allowing lanes and 135 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:09,910 drive through facilities. 136 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,160 42 is to allow the additional accessory 137 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,839 structure. 43 and 44. 138 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:19,040 43 is to allow the dumpster 139 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,760 be 140 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:34,870 44. They will be required to replace any 141 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,720 45. They will have to provide 142 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,200 documentations of conditions of storm 143 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,590 drain systems. 144 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,880 landscape buffer 145 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,440 external boundaries 146 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,949 road 147 00:09:52,959 --> 00:09:56,399 47 any town home elevation visible from 148 00:09:56,399 --> 00:10:02,310 a public rightway shall not utilize 149 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,760 and that's all I'd be happy to answer 150 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,080 any questions 151 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,910 >> all right do we have any questions for 152 00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:07,920 » all right do we have any questions for 153 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,269 Mr. 154 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:13,519 Okay. Thank you, Joey. Well done. All 155 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:14,800 right. This time we like to have the 156 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,240 applicant come forward and tell us a 157 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,079 little bit about the application. 158 00:10:20,079 --> 00:10:23,680 Good evening and welcome. 159 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:25,030 >> Thank you all for the time. My name is 160 00:10:25,030 --> 00:10:25,040 » Thank you all for the time. My name is 161 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,839 Park Lance. I'm with 162 00:10:27,839 --> 00:10:33,839 1810 Trail is my address. Um, so as Joey 163 00:10:33,839 --> 00:10:35,360 mentioned, we are requesting an 164 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,440 amendment to our previously approved 165 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,959 plan to reduce the density from 163 166 00:10:40,959 --> 00:10:45,279 multif family units to 45 units,000 167 00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:47,120 retail 168 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,360 5,000 class. 169 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,079 So we own this property for a number of 170 00:10:54,079 --> 00:10:56,800 years 171 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,760 diligently pursued financing and capital 172 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,600 markets options and equity options to 173 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,959 get the previous 174 00:11:04,959 --> 00:11:08,240 way. Unfortunately 175 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,040 different 176 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,230 markets 177 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,160 allowed us to get this project out of 178 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,399 the ground. We feel like this this 179 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:21,040 amended plan will allow us to 180 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:36,550 with a project. 181 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:40,160 » Any questions for the applicant? 182 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:55,430 >> Yeah, go ahead. 183 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:12,230 reserve 184 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,920 people 185 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:20,790 from the restaurant parking 186 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:37,190 space. 187 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,629 allow 188 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:42,880 traffic. I know you might want to 189 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,519 connect them with some sort of foot 190 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:49,360 access, but is there anything? 191 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,629 >> Right. Right. 192 00:12:50,629 --> 00:12:50,639 » Right. Right. 193 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:52,870 >> Yeah, we do. And we do have a home 194 00:12:52,870 --> 00:12:52,880 » Yeah, we do. And we do have a home 195 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,480 builder that we have discussed with 196 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,399 them. 197 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:11,670 We will have 198 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:16,629 Yeah, I don't think 199 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:22,629 into a town home. 200 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:41,670 Just something 201 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:59,750 both sides. 202 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,000 » Thank you, Jill. Any other questions? 203 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,750 >> All right. Thank you. 204 00:14:05,750 --> 00:14:05,760 » All right. Thank you. 205 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,509 >> All right. This is a public hearing. At 206 00:14:07,509 --> 00:14:07,519 » All right. This is a public hearing. At 207 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:09,120 this time, we'd like to ask if there's 208 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,480 anyone in attendance that would like to 209 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,399 come forward and speak in favor of or 210 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:14,959 opposition to this application. We just 211 00:14:14,959 --> 00:14:17,040 ask that you come forward one at a time. 212 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,160 We want to give everybody the 213 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,160 opportunity to have their voice heard. 214 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,199 Um we do ask that you know we keep the 215 00:14:23,199 --> 00:14:27,519 repetitive comments to a um a minimum 216 00:14:27,519 --> 00:14:30,399 but we want to hear your voice. So u if 217 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:32,399 you would now 218 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:37,670 come forward. 219 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,360 » Good evening and welcome. 220 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,440 Thank you for allowing me to speak. My 221 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,279 name is Mikey. 222 00:14:45,279 --> 00:14:57,590 I'm a property owner of 500311. 223 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,880 I'm here tonight to oppose the proposed 224 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,040 Chick-fil-A. We all saw the logo. That 225 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,880 was Chick-fil-A. 226 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,720 And um because of the public safety and 227 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,199 neighborhood impact this project would 228 00:15:11,199 --> 00:15:14,480 create for people who are living along. 229 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,519 Um, this proposal would directly affect 230 00:15:17,519 --> 00:15:19,920 approximately 40 long 40 homes along 231 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,399 Oakill Road and nearby streets or homes 232 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:24,160 that were not designed to sit next to 233 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,560 high intensity, not high density, but 234 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,880 drive-thru use. 235 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,639 First, it's important to recognize this 236 00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:35,440 is not a simple intersection. Oakill 237 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,519 Road and South Cop form a fivepoint 238 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:39,279 intersection, 239 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:42,000 which already makes traffic more uh 240 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,680 movement more complex and less 241 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,360 predictable than a standard four-way 242 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,600 intersection. 243 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Fivepoint intersections are uncommon in 244 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,399 Smyrna. Uh and when the city does have 245 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:54,160 them, they typically require special 246 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,560 attention and careful traffic management 247 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,680 because of their complexity. 248 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,360 Drivers here are already dealing with 249 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,399 multiple turning moves, signal phases, 250 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:07,360 and sight line challenges. 251 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,759 Couple examples here is as you enter on 252 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:12,720 South Drive to get to Church Road, 253 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,680 drivers have to make a semicircle 254 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,199 that 255 00:16:17,199 --> 00:16:21,600 on Church Road there's no right on red. 256 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,279 The reason there's no right on 257 00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:27,839 drivers approaching South 258 00:16:27,839 --> 00:16:30,160 Church 259 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,959 um Chick-fil-A is not a typical fast 260 00:16:32,959 --> 00:16:35,519 food restaurant. It's um these locations 261 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:37,120 are well known generating very high 262 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,639 traffic volumes, especially in the 263 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:41,120 drive-thru with long lines extending, 264 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,079 idling during peak periods. Um, I think 265 00:16:44,079 --> 00:16:45,680 that's the case for the current site as 266 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,000 well. I mean, that that traffic actually 267 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,720 does back up on South Drive at Highland 268 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,120 Park as it is. Um, and what concerns me 269 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,199 the most is the application includes no 270 00:16:57,199 --> 00:17:00,160 traffic impact studies. Uh, no 271 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,279 drive-through stacking analysis, no peak 272 00:17:03,279 --> 00:17:05,199 hour modeling to show how level of 273 00:17:05,199 --> 00:17:06,160 traffic 274 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,919 function next to a busy fivepoint 275 00:17:07,919 --> 00:17:09,439 intersection. 276 00:17:09,439 --> 00:17:12,160 Um the SH plan shows label Q story 277 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,919 length but uh doesn't show the measured 278 00:17:15,919 --> 00:17:17,600 distance from the intersection curve 279 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,839 radius to the drive through entrance 280 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:23,039 itself which is I guess I'd look to be 281 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:26,079 around 125 ft. So as you're entering on 282 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:27,360 the Oak Road, you have to make an 283 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:29,280 immediate 284 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,799 entrance. 285 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:34,000 Um the site plan um so there's no clear 286 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,640 demonstration that a drive traffic will 287 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,880 stay fully on site with cues that won't 288 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,440 spill back towards the intersection. 289 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,600 U for high volume drive-thru immediately 290 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,520 next to a complex intersection. That's a 291 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,880 critical that's critical missing 292 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,480 information there. U when Chick-fil-A 293 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,320 when Chick-fil-A sites get overwhelmed 294 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,400 and many do. We've all been there. We've 295 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,960 all eaten there. The lines do not stay 296 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,320 on the property. They spill into the 297 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,120 nearby streets. at five point at a 298 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:02,480 fivepoint intersection. This means 299 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,880 sudden stops, block turning movements, 300 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,160 and distracted drivers. Um, for the 40 301 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,880 households along Oakdale Road, this 302 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,640 directly affects their ability to safely 303 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,080 enter and exit their neighborhood. 304 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,000 Oakdale Road is also part of a local 305 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,600 school bus school bus routes. Um, within 306 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,160 the proposed development corridor, there 307 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,919 are three uh school bus stops along all 308 00:18:27,919 --> 00:18:30,720 of Oakdale. seven stops and they all 309 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,880 entered through South Cob onto Oakell 310 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,039 Road. 311 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:36,559 Um, 312 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:38,160 so buses on the road in the early 313 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,919 morning and afternoon hours, the same 314 00:18:39,919 --> 00:18:41,679 times as Chick-fil-A experiences heavy 315 00:18:41,679 --> 00:18:44,080 demand. The uh school bus times are 316 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,640 between 6:30 and 8:30 in the morning, in 317 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,480 the afternoon between 2:30 and 4:30. 318 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,400 Um, so navigating a fivepoint 319 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:53,679 intersection is already challenging 320 00:18:53,679 --> 00:18:55,520 enough for a large bus, adding 321 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,080 unpredictable drive-thru traffic. 322 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,240 increases for bus drivers and the 323 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,400 children. There's no analysis in this 324 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,000 application addressing school bus 325 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,840 operation or state or student safety. 326 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,720 Um to me this is a step backwards but uh 327 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,559 I also want to talk about the noise the 328 00:19:12,559 --> 00:19:14,559 noise the air quality and the quality of 329 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:16,160 life especially because this proposal 330 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,919 removes protections that were previously 331 00:19:17,919 --> 00:19:21,760 included on their plans um 332 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,320 of a sound wall. 333 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,160 In the old site plan, the sign wall was 334 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,480 a sound wall was included. 335 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,919 On the current plan, there's no sound. 336 00:19:31,919 --> 00:19:33,440 Removing the soundwall allows these 337 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,200 impacts to reach further into Oakdale 338 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,280 Road neighborhoods in the 40 nearby 339 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,600 homes. There's also an issue of air 340 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,360 quality. Stop and go traffic and idling 341 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:46,000 concentrate exhaust in one location, 342 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,480 including fine particulate pollution 343 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,320 that is extremely harmful for children, 344 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,559 seniors, and people with asthma. These 345 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:53,919 impacts are daily. They're not 346 00:19:53,919 --> 00:19:56,080 occasional. 347 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,640 Approving um from the planning 348 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,480 standpoint, this may reduce parking, but 349 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,720 there is more intense use that was 350 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,559 previously considered for this site. 351 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:07,039 Yet, it comes with fewer mitigation uh 352 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:09,360 mitigation measures and no supporting 353 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:11,120 studies. 354 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:12,559 So, this is a moving in the wrong 355 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:14,720 direction. Approving this with without 356 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,120 solid analysis places the burden on the 357 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:18,960 neighborhood first and ask questions 358 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,799 later. 359 00:20:20,799 --> 00:20:22,720 And once it's built, these impacts can't 360 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,720 cannot be undone. 361 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,039 So I respectfully ask the board to deny 362 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:28,559 the application or at least defer it 363 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:31,039 until there's a clear evidence will not 364 00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:33,360 compromise safety at the fivepoint 365 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:37,280 intersection disrupt school bus routes 366 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,200 or become a daily nuisance for the 40 367 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,480 homes along road and until protections 368 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:48,390 like the previously proposed sound wall. 369 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,120 Thank you for your time. 370 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:52,149 >> Thank you, Mr. 371 00:20:52,159 --> 00:21:01,830 Anybody else? 372 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,280 » Good evening and welcome. 373 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,710 >> Good evening. My name is Glen Parish. 374 00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:06,720 » Good evening. My name is Glen Parish. 375 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,960 I've lived off of Oakdale Road in the 376 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,400 Oakdale Estates subdivision for almost 377 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,320 20 years now. So, I have a ton of 378 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,960 experience with traffic back and so 379 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,320 forth on Oakville Road. 380 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,159 Mike 381 00:21:24,159 --> 00:21:27,520 mentioned briefly how traffic backs up 382 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,840 under normal circumstances, but if 383 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,840 there's a hiccup somewhere on I85 until 384 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,960 you get to the I20 interchange, people 385 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,159 bail out on Atlanta Road, cut through 386 00:21:40,159 --> 00:21:42,240 West Village, 387 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,480 and then come back down Oakdale Road 388 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,880 where I've seen cars back up as far as 389 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,320 25 or 30 in depth. It's impossible to 390 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,919 make a leftand turn onto road under 391 00:21:53,919 --> 00:21:56,320 current circumstances. 392 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,039 Having said that, I'm also concerned 393 00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:01,679 about the impact of the traffic in the 394 00:22:01,679 --> 00:22:04,400 five point intersection. I understand 395 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,600 that Cobb County or G do have approved 396 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,880 any changes to lanes andor traffic 397 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,640 controls. 398 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,480 If that's not the case, then I 399 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,880 apologize, but that's what I believe at 400 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,390 this point in time. 401 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,600 The impact 402 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,000 is a nuisance to all of us and affects 403 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,440 the quality of life for people that have 404 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,400 enjoyed living in a somewhat quiet 405 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,039 community for a number of years which 406 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:37,200 under these current circumstances if it 407 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,159 is allowed would change the complete 408 00:22:40,159 --> 00:22:45,200 complex city of that area. And I oppose 409 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,840 that and 410 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,880 That is all I have to say at this time 411 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,880 and would sign up afterwards with our 412 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:53,840 address. 413 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,590 >> Yeah, if you could you state your 414 00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:55,600 » Yeah, if you could you state your 415 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,039 address for the record, please, Mr. 416 00:22:57,039 --> 00:22:57,760 Paris. 417 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,750 >> 2159. 418 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,360 » Thank you very much for that, sir. 419 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:03,750 >> Thank you. 420 00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:03,760 » Thank you. 421 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,470 >> Yes, sir. 422 00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:06,480 » Yes, sir. 423 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:12,310 >> Anybody else? 424 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,679 » Good evening and welcome. 425 00:23:13,679 --> 00:23:15,990 >> Thank you. Uh I am Amy Schaer and I 426 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:16,000 » Thank you. Uh I am Amy Schaer and I 427 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,400 reside 2133 Park Avenue. 428 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,750 >> Can Can you say your name again? I'm 429 00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:19,760 » Can Can you say your name again? I'm 430 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,000 sorry. 431 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,789 >> Amy Schaer. 432 00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:20,799 » Amy Schaer. 433 00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:23,029 >> Amy Schaefer. Thank you. 434 00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:23,039 » Amy Schaefer. Thank you. 435 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:27,110 >> And um not to be the point, but I also 436 00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:27,120 » And um not to be the point, but I also 437 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:30,240 would like you guys to oppose the um 438 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,960 fast food portion of this development um 439 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,120 for a few reasons, mostly related to the 440 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:36,799 traffic and the quality of life as a 441 00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:38,320 resident who has to drive up and down 442 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,520 the Oakville corridor to access my home 443 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,159 every day from work. Um the issue that 444 00:23:46,159 --> 00:23:49,120 mostly is that replacing the apartments 445 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:51,200 with town houses does reduce the density 446 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,320 in theory, but then adding a 5,000 or 447 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,799 5,000 square foot um fast food 448 00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:59,120 restaurant of the magnitude of a 449 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:02,000 Chick-fil-A does not negate that density 450 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,760 decrease. It actually increases the 451 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,880 amount of traffic that will be accessing 452 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,799 that fivepoint intersection and Oakdale 453 00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:12,080 Road. Um Chick-fil-A is considered a 454 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,240 high volume traffic generator by design. 455 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,559 They design their to bring extra traffic 456 00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:18,320 through and get people through quicker, 457 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,919 which brings more people to the 458 00:24:19,919 --> 00:24:24,320 restaurant. Um, we estimate from 459 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,240 research online, since there hasn't been 460 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,080 a traffic study to support this at this 461 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,440 intersection, that it will be 462 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,000 approximately 2,300 vehicle trips per 463 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,720 day is what is used by the IT land use 464 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,960 code for fast food restaurants of that 465 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,840 size. So, when you add in 23 thou or 466 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,760 2,300 more vehicles in that 467 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,679 intersection, there's not capacity for 468 00:24:43,679 --> 00:24:45,520 that at this point. and it's going to 469 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,520 spill over onto Oakdale. Additionally, 470 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,559 when you're adding in a turn on Oakdale 471 00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:51,919 that doesn't currently exist, you're 472 00:24:51,919 --> 00:24:53,360 going to have two way turning traffic at 473 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:54,960 an intersection that can't accommodate 474 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,440 the current traffic that's only going 475 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,919 one way and turning onto South K. And 476 00:24:59,919 --> 00:25:01,440 now you're adding an additional turn 477 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,880 that'll be left and right turning 478 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,760 through this backup of Q traffic, which 479 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,279 is also going to cause additional 480 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:09,440 traffic nightmares, um, traffic 481 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,440 incidents and whatnot. And my 482 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,440 understanding, which may be wrong, but 483 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,440 my understanding is that previously um 484 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,360 Oakdale Road was not allowing commercial 485 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:21,360 development um to have access on Oakdale 486 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,039 as evidenced by the dentist office and 487 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:25,120 the surveying offices not having access 488 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:26,640 on Oakdale to their businesses. They 489 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,600 only can be accessed from South. So for 490 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:30,960 those reasons, I request that you guys 491 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,600 review this and at the very least do 492 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,960 request a traffic study before you 493 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,000 approve it. 494 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,310 >> Thank you, Miss Schaefer. Um and Joey 495 00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:40,320 » Thank you, Miss Schaefer. Um and Joey 496 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,559 Rusty, y'all correct me if I'm wrong. 497 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:45,039 Uh, at there will be a traffic study 498 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:50,400 done for this project. Is that correct? 499 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:57,510 Is is it am I correct in saying that 500 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,600 » the project will be reviewed by the 501 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,760 jurisdictions that are in charge of the 502 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,240 rightways. So, Cobb County will look at 503 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,120 this. 504 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:07,350 >> Tot will review it. 505 00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:07,360 » Tot will review it. 506 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:07,750 >> Okay. 507 00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:07,760 » Okay. 508 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,990 >> The you can talk to the applicant and 509 00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:10,000 » The you can talk to the applicant and 510 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,000 them for clarification, but I believe 511 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000 they've already started those initial 512 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,760 conversations and preliminary meetings 513 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,200 with with those jurisdictions to have an 514 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,720 idea of what is needed from an 515 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,799 improvement standpoint before they get 516 00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:24,400 all the way through the process and find 517 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,000 out they do something else. 518 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,110 >> Right. Right. Okay. So to make this 519 00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:29,120 » Right. Right. Okay. So to make this 520 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:30,720 thing a little bit more complicated, we 521 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,919 have three ent three uh government 522 00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:38,080 involved, right? Um G dot which state 523 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,400 obviously Cobb County and the city of 524 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,760 Smyrna, right? Um so when we get we're 525 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,760 done with the public component part, 526 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,360 we'll ask the applicant to come back and 527 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,440 and speak to it as much as they can at 528 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,440 this point. Um 529 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,190 >> and and just from a clarification 530 00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:53,200 » and and just from a clarification 531 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,200 standpoint, 532 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,840 they will not If this gets approved, 533 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,679 there will not be the issuance of the 534 00:26:59,679 --> 00:27:02,400 development permit until all 535 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,760 jurisdictions are satisfied. So, we will 536 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,919 not issue a permit for development until 537 00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:10,320 we receive approval from 538 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,750 >> Got DOT and we receive approval for from 539 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:13,760 » Got DOT and we receive approval for from 540 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,320 Cobb County on those portions of 541 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,360 development. 542 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:20,149 >> Got it. All right. Thank you. And thank 543 00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:20,159 » Got it. All right. Thank you. And thank 544 00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:21,520 you guys for letting me take that to 545 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,000 just try and try and help with there 546 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,960 will be more work done on this plan. Um, 547 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:35,194 so who's next? 548 00:27:35,204 --> 00:27:40,630 [snorts] 549 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,279 » Good evening and welcome. 550 00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:45,919 I would request the council if you can 551 00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:53,190 put up on screen. 552 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,720 » I don't know if we have that technology 553 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,159 available, but will you do me a favor 554 00:27:56,159 --> 00:27:57,679 and state your name and address for the 555 00:27:57,679 --> 00:27:58,559 record to get started? 556 00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:00,950 >> Absolutely. My name is Deborah Stallman 557 00:28:00,950 --> 00:28:00,960 » Absolutely. My name is Deborah Stallman 558 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:07,110 Forsman and I live 559 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:09,279 directly across 560 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:13,279 site. Um, 561 00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:18,710 >> thank you. 562 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,720 » Yeah. Can we can do Do we have this the 563 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,240 proposed site plan that we can throw up 564 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,799 on the screen? 565 00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:31,029 >> Yeah, it's right in front of me. 566 00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:34,960 It does exhibit more like a satellite 567 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,880 view of it. I don't know how to change 568 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:52,870 it. 569 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,720 So, I'd like to address a little bit 570 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,039 more of a human element to this that the 571 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:02,159 site plans don't necessarily 572 00:29:02,159 --> 00:29:04,960 highlight the fact that the residential 573 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,720 area off of Oakdale is single that have 574 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,000 been there for decades, almost a 575 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,039 century. And building on this street 576 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:19,200 would create where the bus stops are. 577 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,000 Okay. Where the site plan is proposed, 578 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,600 the 579 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,159 drive-thru, which is now a double drive, 580 00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:29,840 will be located approximately 30 to 40 581 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,600 feet, maybe 50 feet away from bus stops 582 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,240 where our children stand. And they stand 583 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,159 there in the morning. the highest 584 00:29:38,159 --> 00:29:40,240 traffic at a Chick-fil-A, double 585 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,320 traffic. And these children may even be 586 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,559 tempted to walk across Oakdale so that 587 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:46,159 they could get into the Chick-fil-A and 588 00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:49,279 have chicken nuggets. So we are talking 589 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:51,520 about children from elementary, middle 590 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,840 school, and high school walking across 591 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,039 Oakdale during hightra peak areas as 592 00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:59,200 well as traffic trying to get in and out 593 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,600 of that area while our kids are standing 594 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,279 at their bus stop if they're not trying 595 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:05,679 to get to. 596 00:30:05,679 --> 00:30:07,360 I'd like to note that that that's not 597 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,520 necessarily being highlighted. I'd like 598 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,120 to make sure that's highlighted. 599 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,240 That is basically 600 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,000 83% of the parcels. So, six out of eight 601 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000 of the parcels are actually up against 602 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,760 bus stops. 603 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,520 And I believe that this presents a 604 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,559 safety hazard for our children as well 605 00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:31,039 as pedestrians in that area. Like to 606 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:34,960 note right here that recently the 607 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,559 Silver comet trail was connected to 608 00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:38,559 Oakdale which creates a larger 609 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:41,200 pedestrian traffic as well as well as 610 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,039 bicyclists. So there are people out 611 00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:44,480 there who are walking that are going to 612 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,320 be interfering or a part of this high 613 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,880 intensity traffic area for a double for 614 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:57,830 the proposed double drive-thru. 615 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,120 So I do want to note for the council 616 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,279 that this is a plan that I do not 617 00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:08,640 want approved. I do oppose it. And that 618 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,720 is all I have to say about it. Thank 619 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,360 you. 620 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:24,070 >> Thank you. 621 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,039 » Good evening and welcome. 622 00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:26,710 >> Evening, council. 623 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:26,720 » Evening, council. 624 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,310 >> All right. For the record, we're we're 625 00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:28,320 » All right. For the record, we're we're 626 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,559 the zoning board. The council is a 627 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:32,640 completely different group. They they 628 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,480 see me letting you call us counsel. I'll 629 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,240 get in trouble later. 630 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,789 >> Okay. My name is Kate Shaw. You call me 631 00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:38,799 » Okay. My name is Kate Shaw. You call me 632 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,919 the walking wounded if you want. I live 633 00:31:41,919 --> 00:31:44,640 on Lane. I live two homes down from the 634 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,360 proposed site. Um I'd also like to note 635 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,039 that this morning I entered into the 636 00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:52,000 record a legal memo for review. I have 637 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,000 additional comments that I won't bore 638 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,840 you with repeating everything that's in 639 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,720 that legal memo. Um but I do want to 640 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,039 I remain concerned that the planning 641 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:06,960 commission is being asked to approve a 642 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,080 defective commercial resoning based on 643 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,590 staff variances. 644 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,360 I remain concerned that this is not a 645 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,279 zoning amendment 646 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:20,480 but rather a functional reasoning 647 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,720 to high intensity commercial use. 648 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,440 I previously shared safety concerns 649 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,919 about the school bus stop which is 650 00:32:29,919 --> 00:32:33,200 directly ent to the order taking portion 651 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,269 of the drive-thru lane. 652 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:40,799 An assessment of child pedestrian safety 653 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,760 or bus route safety was not addressed in 654 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,559 the planning memo. Despite my concerns, 655 00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:51,039 I believe that evaluation of those 656 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,320 safety facts are required and that the 657 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,200 risk of child pedestrian safety adjacent 658 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,200 to a drive-thru 659 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:05,830 rest on your shoulders as well. 660 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,919 In referencing the applicant statement 661 00:33:09,919 --> 00:33:14,000 and the staff memo, I'd like to also 662 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,039 look at exhibit B. And in the response 663 00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,559 to question one, I'd like to note that 664 00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:22,960 describing these parcels as being 665 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,080 adjacent to commercial town homes and 666 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,200 multif family is a bit of a 667 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,200 mischaracterization. 668 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,760 If you look along these five parcels on 669 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,440 the east, 670 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,640 you look at the bottom of that 671 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,279 triangular piece 672 00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:43,360 where all those trees are 40 homes. 673 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,799 Misty Lane is 20 homes. Oakdale is 20 674 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:49,039 homes. And if you do the math on these 675 00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:54,159 parcels, you will find that 83% of the 676 00:33:54,159 --> 00:33:57,279 but single family residential. 677 00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,760 This project is being characterized as 678 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,279 the South 679 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:02,880 commercial. 680 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:08,310 It's a residential. 681 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,040 In question three, the applicant and 682 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,560 staff 683 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,440 comment on reasonable use, making many 684 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,839 comments about market conditions and 685 00:34:17,839 --> 00:34:21,760 economic use. 686 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,480 The city record reflects that recently 687 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,960 proposals were reviewed for a 250 multif 688 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:32,079 family unit, a three to four living 689 00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:34,320 market conditions are no different for 690 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,399 this site and other recent proposals you 691 00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:39,200 have. 692 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,919 This amendment stems from an economic 693 00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:44,399 preference of the developer only. 694 00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:48,320 Economic preferences do not 695 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,560 constitute reasons to approve 696 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,270 amendments. 697 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,520 Section four, 698 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,349 a burden on streets 699 00:35:01,359 --> 00:35:04,880 may be repetitive to 700 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,720 it may be repetitive to address this 701 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:08,480 again as I think that some of the other 702 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,200 neighbors have already commented on it. 703 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,960 Um 704 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,920 I would add that uh in the staff memo it 705 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,280 does not say anywhere that it's subject 706 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,599 to Cobb County approval. It also doesn't 707 00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:20,880 mention the Cobb Department of 708 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,200 Education. also doesn't address any of 709 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,560 the bus stops and whether or not um Cobb 710 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,839 County has been contacted. I myself 711 00:35:29,839 --> 00:35:32,000 contacted Georgia and Cob County not 712 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,240 long ago and they had not heard of this 713 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:42,390 proposal. The developer may have to 714 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,589 in regards to future land use. 715 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:51,599 This is zone CAC. 716 00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:53,920 medium intensity. 717 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,920 I think no question exists about whether 718 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,280 double drive through Chick-fil-A 719 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,240 constitutes high intensity use. This is 720 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:03,040 fundamentally incompatible with the 2040 721 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,670 future land use. 722 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,480 Policy number six of CAC states 723 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,240 transition scale and intensity is 724 00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:15,280 expected between the central CAC uses 725 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,040 and surrounding lower intensity 726 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,040 neighborhoods. 727 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,800 No transition exists. We have 728 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,320 no mitigation exists. We have trees 40 729 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,320 ft apart. None of those mit 730 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:36,550 according to CAC policy number six. 731 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,640 With regards to the memo number six, 732 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,359 both developer and staff claim that this 733 00:36:43,359 --> 00:36:46,079 is actually reduction in density 734 00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:48,160 when I think that it's already been 735 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,880 spoken to that the true metric 736 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:58,710 is trips per day and traffic intensity. 737 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,800 Respectfully, 738 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,119 kicking the responsibility of safety 739 00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:06,079 studies to other jurisdictions or other 740 00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:09,430 departments. 741 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,599 It allows this project to move forward 742 00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:14,160 and shifts the risk to the children, the 743 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,000 homeowners, 744 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,359 and does not guarantee 745 00:37:19,359 --> 00:37:21,040 the mayor and council do not have the 746 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:26,400 ability to enforce once it's passed that 747 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,920 the applicant seeks a commercial 748 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,320 drive-thru use. I believe the 749 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,079 appropriate path is a commercial 750 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:34,160 resoning. 751 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,480 I respectfully request to recommend 752 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,599 denial or at a minimum to send us back 753 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:42,400 through the proper reasoning process 754 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,280 rather than approving functionally 755 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,760 commercialing 756 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,880 through SAP varian. 757 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,630 >> Thank you so much for your time. 758 00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:52,640 » Thank you so much for your time. 759 00:37:52,640 --> 00:38:05,030 >> Thank you Michelle. Anybody else? 760 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,790 Good evening and welcome. 761 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,480 » My name is Walt Robu. I live at 2150 762 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,520 Oakdale Estates Court. 763 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,839 I've lived here [clears throat] for 20 764 00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:19,520 years 765 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,280 and I can tell you right now when you 766 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,040 try to drive on Oakdale Road 767 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,640 heading towards the light on South Cobb 768 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,400 Drive between 4 and 6:00, you're going 769 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,119 to sit in that lane for four light 770 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:39,119 changes before you could even reach 771 00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,760 where my house is because of the 772 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,839 traffic. And we don't have anything 773 00:38:43,839 --> 00:38:46,400 there now but trees. 774 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,599 You start running people through there 775 00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:51,359 going to Chick-fil-A and believe me, 776 00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:54,000 they're popular. You're going to have a 777 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,520 problem that's going to be out of this 778 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,760 world. 779 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,520 So, you really need to consider that 780 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,040 when you're looking at this. That's the 781 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,359 big problem. And it's been brought up 782 00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:06,640 about the children and the buses. That's 783 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,160 all part of it, too. But not even 784 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,240 counting that. Just trying to get home 785 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:12,960 at that time. 786 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,599 It's a chore. 787 00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:20,069 So, please don't forget that. 788 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:21,920 » Thank you, Mr. Robu. Did Did he state 789 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:32,390 his address? Okay, got it. Anybody else? 790 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,640 Hey, we prefer quality of content over 791 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,200 volume. I promise. Like, you guys have 792 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,640 done a great job. You've been very 793 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,800 civil. We totally appreciate it. We're 794 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,400 all neighbors, right? We're all here 795 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,760 because we want Smyrna to be a better 796 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,480 place and you got a you got a a stake in 797 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,000 that claim, right? So, if that's all the 798 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,760 neighbors that want to speak, I'm going 799 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,920 to call it call the public hearing at 800 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,520 6:46. 801 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,320 As far as the public hearing component 802 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,079 in my meetings, I like to balance it out 803 00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,079 as much as possible. Anytime we have a 804 00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,000 disparity where the applicant speaks for 805 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,520 two or three minutes and we have, you 806 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,520 know, 15, 20 minutes of public comment, 807 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,800 I want to give them an opportunity to 808 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,320 answer any questions. All right? So, at 809 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,640 this time, I'm going to let the 810 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,320 applicant come back and see if they can 811 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,839 address and allay any of the fears, 812 00:40:15,839 --> 00:40:19,597 concerns uh of of the neighbors. 813 00:40:19,597 --> 00:40:21,440 [snorts] 814 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,800 And if you ever watch one of my 815 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,680 meetings, I don't don't suggest it. I 816 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,359 try to do this every time. So, this is 817 00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:30,400 not something special for the 818 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,430 >> Welcome back. 819 00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:31,440 » Welcome back. 820 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:40,950 >> Yeah. Thanks again. So, a couple things 821 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,320 But um we have 822 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:50,310 Joe's comment we have reached out 823 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:58,710 to channels to make sure. 824 00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:05,510 So that process will take place 825 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,240 but all 826 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:11,750 distances 827 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,839 that has been addressed. I know there 828 00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:17,829 was a comment 829 00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:35,510 for us 830 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,079 facing commercial site that has 831 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:58,710 foundh 832 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:00,800 standpoint. So 833 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,680 I guess the only other thing on the 834 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:10,870 screening and 835 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:19,670 Chick-fil-A. I will say that Chick-fil-A 836 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:28,069 along there. 837 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:34,790 I'm sure 838 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:40,069 all comments 839 00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:49,750 I appreciate that, Mr. 840 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,680 » Good evening and welcome. 841 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,670 >> Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of 842 00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:53,680 » Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of 843 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,440 the of the commission. My name is David 844 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,040 Kirk. I'm an attorney practicing at the 845 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,760 firm of Ch Pepper Lock 600 Peach Tree 846 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,800 Street [snorts] Northeast in Atlanta 847 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,160 here representing Chick-fil-A. Um I'm 848 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,240 not the technical expert, so if you have 849 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,960 technical questions, we have we have a 850 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,800 bunch of folks here who know a lot more 851 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,359 about that than than I do. Um let me 852 00:43:19,359 --> 00:43:21,839 speak to just a couple of things. Uh 853 00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:25,040 first, you have a great staff. They have 854 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,520 looked at this very carefully. They've 855 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,400 looked at your plan. They find it's 856 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,480 consistent with your plan. They find 857 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,880 that it meets all the criteria for 858 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,079 approval. And I would strongly suggest 859 00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:43,280 that you rely on your staff uh and their 860 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:49,119 work uh and approve this. Uh second with 861 00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:53,920 regard to the concerns about uh traffic 862 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,680 uh and this being a double drive through 863 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,839 and therefore would have more traffic 864 00:43:57,839 --> 00:44:01,680 and more impact uh on Oakdale Road. 865 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,640 That's actually the exact opposite of 866 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,280 what this is intended to do. The current 867 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,079 uh Chick-fil-A has a single drive-thru 868 00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:12,720 if I'm not mistaken. The operator is 869 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:15,920 here so he can answer that more detail 870 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,280 if you want. 871 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,720 this design, the proposed site plan that 872 00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:23,040 you have before you tonight effectively 873 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,640 triples that the ability to have 874 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,200 cars on the site. So that will eliminate 875 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,599 likely eliminate the uh any sort of 876 00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:35,920 backup into the site beyond the 877 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,760 drive-thru and certainly onto 878 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,599 neighboring streets. 879 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:41,760 In addition, there's a new Chick-fil-A 880 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,560 that has recently opened uh on is it 881 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,640 Mapleton Road 882 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,160 in Mapleton, which will 883 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,720 somewhat reduce the demand, 884 00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:54,640 take the pressure off this this 885 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,040 particular site. So, I would 886 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,920 respectfully suggest that this in fact 887 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,440 will 888 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,119 the design will keep traffic on site, 889 00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:10,710 allow for much more efficient use of 890 00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:14,309 Um 891 00:45:14,319 --> 00:45:16,960 there was a mention of landscaping. 892 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,200 Certainly we can work with staff to 893 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:24,000 enhance the landscaping along road 894 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,920 that would be helpful. They believe it 895 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,040 would be helpful. Uh and as Mr. Martin 896 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,480 pointed out with regard to coordination 897 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,280 with Georgia DOT 898 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,280 Kendra who's our expert here uh has had 899 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,160 those preliminary discussions with them. 900 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,839 If you have specific questions about 901 00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:46,560 that I'm going to have to defer to her 902 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,200 but again the staff has looked at this 903 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,119 very carefully. This is effectively 904 00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:55,200 it's essentially 905 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,440 has the effect of a down going 906 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,440 163 907 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,599 residential units to about a quarter of 908 00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:06,800 that. We're going from 20,000 square 909 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,599 feet of retail and restaurant space to 910 00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:12,000 again about a quarter of that. So I 911 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,599 would respectfully suggest that in fact 912 00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:17,920 reduce the intensity and reduce the 913 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,280 impact properties. Thank you very much. 914 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,440 If you have any questions for the team 915 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,079 again we have whole range of experts 916 00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:26,480 here. 917 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,150 >> Gotcha. Thanks so much for skirt. If 918 00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:28,160 » Gotcha. Thanks so much for skirt. If 919 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,800 anybody else wants to add anything, 920 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:39,109 feel free. 921 00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:40,480 » Good evening and welcome. 922 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,550 >> Good evening. Thank you all for your 923 00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:42,560 » Good evening. Thank you all for your 924 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,839 time. My name is Kendra Lewis. My 925 00:46:45,839 --> 00:46:51,947 address is 220 East Central Parkway. 926 00:46:51,947 --> 00:46:52,880 [snorts] 927 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,560 Came 928 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,000 to be here tonight. Um, so the only 929 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,319 additional things that I wanted to add 930 00:47:00,319 --> 00:47:04,960 um was that the south co drive entrance 931 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,240 will likely be the primary entrance that 932 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:11,440 most vehicles will be at least entering 933 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:17,200 the site. Um and then um as mentioned um 934 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,800 the traffic study was a big point of 935 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,200 concern and there there is at least a 936 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,680 preliminary study that has done so that 937 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:34,470 was taken into consideration 938 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,280 which included those deceleration lanes 939 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,040 to assist traffic um [clears throat] 940 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:45,119 as Mr. already mentioned the um the 941 00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:48,640 drive-thru stacking from the existing 942 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:53,030 store down the street 943 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,520 only. 944 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,839 So this drive is 945 00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:03,760 not only um does it hold more about the 946 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:09,119 amount um it's from 947 00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:13,119 where you know many of you 948 00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:15,440 and seeing the drive just continue to 949 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,319 wrap around the building and then 950 00:48:18,319 --> 00:48:20,160 prevents 951 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,559 you 952 00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:26,240 in general. So that's also this design 953 00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:31,270 addresses that with an isolated 954 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:51,990 um 955 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,520 » Thank you so Sure. 956 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,520 Miss Lewis, you mind if get one question 957 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:20,549 out of you? 958 00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:34,790 One jurisdiction. 959 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,000 Has there been any discussion? 960 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,920 to this 961 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:50,470 homeowners 962 00:49:50,480 --> 00:50:35,109 proposing more. 963 00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:37,359 Someone trying to 964 00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:47,750 concerns of the homeless 965 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:56,150 homes. 966 00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:01,910 Not allowing 967 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,470 everybody who wants to go 968 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,630 try to 969 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:27,109 speak. 970 00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:31,440 » Yeah, that's a great question and um 971 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,119 there's been some minor discuss Of 972 00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:39,040 course I believe would be to have full 973 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,280 access on on both roads. Um and as you 974 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,359 mentioned yes there are multiple 975 00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:48,160 agencies. So um Georgia Department of 976 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,640 Transportation has jurisdiction over 977 00:51:50,640 --> 00:52:00,950 South 978 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,160 um and then Mr. Sts mentioned Oakdale 979 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,000 Roads jurisdiction is a combination of 980 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,920 um city jurisdiction and county 981 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,599 jurisdiction. So once we get past this 982 00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:18,960 initial planning phase um then we would 983 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,319 get into the nittygritty of the civil 984 00:52:22,319 --> 00:52:24,960 engineering plans and I think that's 985 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:32,069 when more discusser 986 00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:36,069 design 987 00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:37,520 I believe from what I'm hearing you're 988 00:52:37,520 --> 00:53:00,710 proposing right 989 00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:05,270 schools. 990 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:19,510 finally 991 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:28,390 take. 992 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,240 » Thank you, Jill. Thank you, Kendra. 993 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:33,760 All right, we're going to go ahead and 994 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,599 close it off now. That gives about 25 995 00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:39,599 minutes to the public hearing and 996 00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:41,119 another 997 00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:45,599 12 or so um from the for the applicant. 998 00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:48,160 All right. Um at this time, I'd like to 999 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:55,750 entertain a motion. 1000 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,520 I'd like to make a motion to approve 1001 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,400 Z25-015 1002 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,880 as presented. 1003 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,870 >> And motion to approve, Mr. Carter. Do I 1004 00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:04,880 » And motion to approve, Mr. Carter. Do I 1005 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,710 have a second? 1006 00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:10,640 » I second that. 1007 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,412 >> I got a second from Ian. 1008 00:54:13,412 --> 00:54:13,422 » I got a second from Ian. 1009 00:54:13,422 --> 00:54:14,559 [snorts] 1010 00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:18,160 Uh, all in favor of the motion, please 1011 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:26,549 vote. 1012 00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:29,440 Really? So [snorts] the 1013 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,480 the motion is approved three to two. Is 1014 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,040 that right? 1015 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,079 Earl, did you vote? 1016 00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:42,720 Okay, Earl's an A. Jill's an A. So we 1017 00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:46,160 have an approval three to two. [snorts] 1018 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,480 Sorry, guys. I'm slow counting up here, 1019 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,839 especially when I'm having to go back 1020 00:54:49,839 --> 00:54:52,880 and forth. Um clearly there's, you know, 1021 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,800 some work to be done on this. I do 1022 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,000 appreciate you guys um all your patience 1023 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,680 and and u professionalism. 1024 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,480 We live in a world that's devoid of that 1025 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,760 far too often. [snorts] Um the next item 1026 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,520 on our agenda is the approval. Is uh Mr. 1027 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:16,309 Phillips or Mr. Howard still here? 1028 00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:16,960 » Hold on. 1029 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,870 >> Mr. Mayor, can I just reiterate that 1030 00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:18,880 » Mr. Mayor, can I just reiterate that 1031 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,720 mayor and council meeting is February 1032 00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:23,680 16th. That will be a final vote. This is 1033 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:24,880 a recommendation. 1034 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,589 >> Yes. The final the final uh vote will be 1035 00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:27,599 » Yes. The final the final uh vote will be 1036 00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:30,720 uh May 16th. Uh 1037 00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:34,643 oh Jesus. February 16, 2026. 1038 00:55:34,643 --> 00:55:38,160 [snorts] Um in this chamber. Thank you. 1039 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,800 All right. I'd like a motion to approve 1040 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,760 the minutes as presented. 1041 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,680 We had a motion. Mr. Rice to have a 1042 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,520 second. 1043 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,000 Second. Uh, and this is going to be a 1044 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,920 fun one. 1045 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,359 Vote to approve the minutes. You guys 1046 00:55:53,359 --> 00:55:55,440 are going to have to abstain. 1047 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,559 Abstain. So, we have a motion to approve 1048 00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:00,079 402. 1049 00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:02,960 That's a vote we've never had before. 1050 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,559 All right. Um, as a matter of um, well, 1051 00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:08,480 not even there's no procedure associated 1052 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,960 with it. Uh, this this application was 1053 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,559 in Ward 7. Um recently, [snorts] 1054 00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:17,599 um Henriette Estraga, who has served 1055 00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:21,200 here, uh for many years, uh fantastic 1056 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,680 member of this commission, uh did an 1057 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,119 excellent job, uh of studying what we 1058 00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:29,680 were working on, visiting the sites. 1059 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,520 She's not here tonight because she is 1060 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,680 being replaced, but as a public record, 1061 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,799 I want to thank her for her time here. U 1062 00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:40,559 she did an excellent job and she will be 1063 00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:42,079 sorely missed. 1064 00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:44,400 Um there is one other thing that I want 1065 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,440 to uh well one I want to thank Ian and 1066 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,280 Jeff. There are new members. Welcome 1067 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,640 tonight. You got your your bath of fire. 1068 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,480 Um 1069 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,160 not all meetings are this civil and 1070 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,240 that's a credit to you guys. Uh so 1071 00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:00,799 welcome to the commission and uh thank 1072 00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:03,680 you for your service. And then finally 1073 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,119 um [snorts] 1074 00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:08,720 uh city has had a a rough week. Uh we 1075 00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:11,040 mourn the loss of a good friend and a 1076 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,400 great steward of our city. Um Eric 1077 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,319 Randall, the public works director who 1078 00:57:16,319 --> 00:57:20,319 passed away on uh Wednesday. [snorts] Um 1079 00:57:20,319 --> 00:57:22,319 he will be sorely missed and thoughts 1080 00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:25,359 and prayers to his uh his family. With 1081 00:57:25,359 --> 00:57:28,079 that, are there any other comments? 1082 00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:29,680 All right, the meeting is called at 1083 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:41,990 7:03. 1084 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,799 Jeff's replacement.