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it hurt my eyes but

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I don't think I have a real strong

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I think I got some in my desk drawer

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I think I do

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can you look in my top

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good evening I would like to call the

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January 9th 2023 meeting to order Clark

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Jones I believe you would like to read

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some statements yes

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good morning good evening members of the

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public for audio quality we will be

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muting everyone as virtual

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you would like to speak during the

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meeting on specific agenda items please

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submit your request to speak in the chat

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on you and you will be given three

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poor to those who are virtual please be

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sure to unmute yourself prior to giving

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your remarks

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thank you so much

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at this time we will have an invocation

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by Pastor John Ward

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Pastor Ward

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if you come up to the podium

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good evening everyone good evening let

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us bow our heads

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Heavenly Father

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as we start this meeting on tonight

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Lord give us guidance

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give us wisdom

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give us support

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so that we may come together as a whole

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so that we may do what's right

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in the eyes of God and for the people of

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God

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if there's anything

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that's not right in the hearts

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of your elected officials

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Lord fix it right now in the name of

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let them become on one Accord Heavenly

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touch their hearts their minds

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their bodies and soul father God

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let them do what's right father God

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so that we can heal the city of South

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Bend

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so that we can draw the people of South

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Bend closer together

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in the almighty name of Jesus I pray

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amen amen amen

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let us please stand for the Pledge of

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Jones would you please call the roll

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council member Lee President

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present council member wax President

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councilmember White president council

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member Thomas Morgan president council

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member Hammond president vice president

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naski president president McBride

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present nine president thank you

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at this time I would like to state that

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if you are here for Bill number 7122

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under zoning annexation it has been

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tabled until January 23rd 2023

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also bill 52-22

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has been tabled until February 13 2023.

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at this time we will have a report from

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the subcommittee on minutes

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on minutes to the comma Council

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did the minutes

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of the September 12 2022 September 26

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meetings and found them to be correct

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therefore we recommend the same be

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Point voter I did not approve any of

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those minutes we haven't had any changes

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since the last discussion

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as I said last time what's in those

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minutes is uh just the list of the bill

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and the votes there is uh zero substance

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provided in the minutes

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if you look at the statutory requirement

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for the minutes

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item number three it requires a general

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substance of all matters proposed

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discussed and decided

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and uh in my opinion just putting the

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votes who voted yes and no does not

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fulfill that

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little substance

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I'm just stating

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the build titles are the general

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assessment stating my opinion and these

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are the council minutes

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council member Warner has a

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I'm not going to give a legal opinion on

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whether or not they suffice but his

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representation is accurate that the

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minutes reflect just the

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uh just the bill itself and the vote

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feedback we haven't seen any other

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versions of those events

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and I think it's up to the council these

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are the council minutes and if the

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council wants to vote to approve them

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and believes that a vote is uh

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substantive enough and fulfills that

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then so be

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I think the recommendation comes from

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the subcommittee it does yes so

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so at this point time I have not

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approved and do not recommend the

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minutes

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um

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information Specialists we checked with

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him and he said that this is what we

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what we are required to provide legally

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that the bill title is the substance and

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the date in who was at the meeting

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because the because the minutes are

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because the meetings are on video

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and we can

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um refer to the video we can bookmark

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the video

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and um move forward with there we don't

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have the resources uh the resources have

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been taken from us to to

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to a summarization or verbatim minutes

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and so this is what we are doing with

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the resources that we've been allocated

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so I got a few responses to that Mr

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Britt is a advisor uh he's not the

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deciding opinion on these and again

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these are the council minutes these

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aren't Mr britz minutes

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and these are all minutes I will say

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these are all minutes from when you were

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fully staffed

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we have a motion on the floor

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and for Council to for us to have the

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roll call to accept the minutes and uh I

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think Clark Jones uh you and I we can

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have a further discussion I believe we

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had sat down before to talk about uh the

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minutes and also probably with speaking

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with Council and Mr Britt I know we

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talked about having him come in as well

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um I think we need to move and let

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parliamentarian do you have any input

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uh president McBride I don't believe

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there's a motion on the floor from any

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council member so there is no

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recommendation from the subcommittee I

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think that

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the councilor Warner had rejected if I

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was correct he just said he does not

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approve the proper motion would be to

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approve the minutes there is no motion

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out there to approve so there's nothing

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for the council to do at this time okay

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thank you for the clarification

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the floor all the promotion or not

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there's a tour open for motions it comes

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out of the minutes committee

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which is pounding subcommittee is the

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proper entity to make the motion to

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accept the minutes and there has been no

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motion by that subcommittee

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counselor wax and counselor Warner

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for the minutes you don't need a full

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committee for the minutes it's always

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been two for the minute

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it's one of those big

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the council one would make a

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recommendation but both of them agreed

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to not move forward

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if one of them made a recommendation we

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would vote whether to pass or not they

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both opted to not make that

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recommendation

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does that answer your question no it

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doesn't

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so forgive me

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did Mr Black say no Mr Moore says yes

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what was the tiebreaker

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that would be the full Council amen

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correct

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it's gonna be a tie breaker by the pool

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Council correct okay that's what I was

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asking that's what I thought I'd said no

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I I didn't say that you did I said I

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made it slow and so I needed a better I

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need to clarify okay thank you oh and I

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would like to clarify

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um we did have assistance with the

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minutes when we were fully staffed the

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minutes have always been

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um because we did verbatim and we did

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summarizations of the minutes they it

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has always been extra and staff has had

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to take the minutes home even though we

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were fully staffed we did have a staff

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member that couldn't do the minutes or

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because of other reasons so we always as

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in the last year and a half or so we've

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had assistance with the minutes

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okay

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thank you so much

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for your comments and it's on record

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so what happens if we do not vote any

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one they're they're still posted

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um because according to uh statue we can

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still post them we just post them as a

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draft and not approved

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so they're they're still online the

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video is still online you can still go

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you can see uh who attended the meetings

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you can see who voted on which Bill how

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they voted whether they attended the

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meetings virtually or in person the the

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date of the meeting the time the meeting

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started the time the minute meeting

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ended with the minutes all of that is

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posted already as draft because we can

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do that and well my question is for Bob

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and I don't need to belabor this but

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this I've never seen this before so

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bear with me

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so these minutes

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and so on are never approved then what

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happens

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I mean as it relates to the work of the

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council and even the clerk's office

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we're in violation of state law at the

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minute it's not approved and so what is

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the

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that the remedy would be up to no the

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backlash is what I was looking for was

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the consequence for not approving these

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uh if someone could sue

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the council for violation of the open

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door law

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so it'll be prudent on our end to get

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this taken care of as soon as possible

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because we will be the ones to get sued

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not the clerk's office

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is what you just said

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someone will be sued for violation of

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the open door law

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okay like I said this is untried

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territory for me yeah it is yeah

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according to the public access counselor

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minutes are reasonably expected to be

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turned around within 14 days sure sure I

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was but I the the acknowledgment of not

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wanting to go forward with it because

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something is not done the right way or

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done the way that we want them done or

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whatever that is

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I just want to know what the consequence

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was as it relates to the state and how

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we were supposed to we have a mandate we

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have to do certain things so

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okay thank you sir

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thank you with the

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I'm sorry

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I think this can be fixed with just uh

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adding a few sentences of just the

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general substance

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during the this bill was raised and the

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topic of affordable housing was asked

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and answered and this was asked and

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answered and it could be fixed with just

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some general substance I look I I'm not

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going down those streets I just wanted

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to know what was the parameters and how

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this works the law and who is the one

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that would suffer the consequence it

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sounds like the council would and so I

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my my idea was be to get this taken care

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of before we get sued

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thank you I will move on

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um there are no special business there

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are no reports from the city at this

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time

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I would now entertain a motion to

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resolve to the committee of the whole

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second it has been moved in second Clark

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Jones will roll please

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council member Davis

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aye council member Lee

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aye council member Warner

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aye council member wax council member

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White

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council member Thomas Morgan

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aye councilmember Hammond I vice

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president naskowski aye president

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McBride aye nine eyes

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foreign

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we have to read this procedure as stated

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in section 2 11.

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and it says the clerk shall read each

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title

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by each bill by title only

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the chairperson of the council standing

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committee to which the bill was sent

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shall give a report on the

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recommendations from the committee a

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formal presentation of the bill should

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be made

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which is is not subject to time

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limitation common council members shall

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have the right to ask two preliminary

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questions to the presenters immediately

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following the close of the formal

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presentation on the bill

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members of the public supporting the

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bill shall have the opportunity to

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address the council

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each member of the public shall be

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required to State his name or her name

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and residential address or in the case

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of a proposal made on behalf of an

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entity other than a natural person or on

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behalf of a group of individuals that

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person and or their agent shall State

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his or her name and business address for

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record for record prior to making

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remarks in support of the bill each

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member of the public speaking in favor

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of a bill should be limited to five

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minutes

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if the formal presentation against the

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bill under consideration

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the person or agent speaking on behalf

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of such a remonstrate group shall not be

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subject to time limitation

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therefore each member of the public

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speaking in opposition shall be limited

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to five minutes for his or her

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presentation each member of the public

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shall be required to State his or her

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name or residential address or in the

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case of The Proposal

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maybe half of an entity or other than a

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natural person or on behalf of a group

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of individuals that person or that or

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their agent shall State his or her name

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and business address for record prior to

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making remarks in opposition of the bill

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each member of the public shell and

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opposition of the bill shall be limited

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to five minutes

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the remonstrance period following any

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formal presentation against the bill

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under consideration shall not exceed the

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time used by members of the public who

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spoke in favor of the bill or shall be

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limited to 30 minutes whichever is

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greater

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there shall be an automatic five-minute

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rebuttal period for the person or the

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person who made the formal presentation

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on the bill under consideration

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after which the public portion of the

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hearing is closed

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following the public portion then

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Council portion then takes place where

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members of the Council debate ask

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questions make motions on the bill under

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consideration each bill must have a

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motion addressed in the disposition of

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the bill

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as it is then sent to the full Council

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for final action

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in compliance with the governor's

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executive orders the South and common

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Council will be legally held by way of

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virtual meeting using Microsoft teams at

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the committee of the whole notes how

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residents can participate for the public

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portion as follows

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a public can participate in the meeting

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by following the directions in the chat

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section in the Microsoft teams app at

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the link provided by the city clerk any

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member of the public wishing to speak in

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favor or opposition to the bill must

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indicate their desire prior to the close

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of the public Hearing in order to speak

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in favor against the bill you will need

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to state your name

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and address as it also as is also

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required to speak at an in-person

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meeting the city clerk will inform the

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chair of the committee of the whole in

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which order to proceed

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to address each person in order with a

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time limit of five minutes

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give me a whole is now in session this

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is the portion of the council's meetings

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where bills are given a second reading

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and public hearing I wish to share with

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you that bills that will be given a

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second reading and public hearing have

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been given a first reading and set for a

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committee meeting and public hearing

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prior to this evening's meeting

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in addition you will hear from the

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chairperson of the committee where the

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bill was discussed and the results of

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their discussion if the proposed

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ordinance is a zoning ordinance a report

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from a staff member will be given in all

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other situations the formal presentation

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on the proposed ordinance will

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immediately follow the committee report

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the formal presentation shall be on time

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on our agenda we had

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um the bill 52-22

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it has been tabled

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on our agenda

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bill 69-22

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I'm sorry Bill 52 22 has continued to

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February 13th oh I'm sorry

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table

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to February 13th

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as requested by the petitioner

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okay

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now Bill 69-22 we've already had the

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public input

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and so now the only thing is for Council

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uh discussion and so

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um presenters will now um give their

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name and address

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yeah

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okay Larry Jones would you please re

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give Bill

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69-22 a second reading 69-22

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6922 public hearing on an ordinance of

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the common Council of the city of South

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Bend Indiana approving a petition of The

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Advisory Board of zoning appeals for the

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property located at 1405 Portage Avenue

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councilman District number one in the

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city of South bin Indiana

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all right chair point of order

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um

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this is not scheduled for public hearing

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as

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stated in the agenda the prior agendas

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that had been sent out to the Republican

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to council indicated that this was only

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for third reading not for public hearing

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so there's nothing improper with letting

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them make their presentation and then

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the the

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Committee of the whole will make its

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recommendation to the

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full Council after the third reading

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okay

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my only point is that there is no public

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hearing as stated

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all right

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and that's why I was disclosing that

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it's only the discussion but yeah all

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right Elizabeth

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Angela Smith The Zone administrator with

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the office is located in the 14th floor

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of the building I'm only here to answer

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any questions you may have unless you

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want to refresher on what the bill

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itself is

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well

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a refresher sorry

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the property is the Portage the corner

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of Portage Elwood they're seeking a

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special exception its own Neighborhood

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Center seeking a special exception for

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um a vape smoke and tobacco shop in the

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NC neighborhood center District this

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came to you from the board of zoning

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appeals of the favorable recommendation

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we have had some work done by the uh

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facade grant program which they're

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looking to do improvements and so the

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updated site plan I believe was

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circulated to council as well as some

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proposed elevations

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other than that this can do from the

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poor zoning appeals with a favorable

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recommendation I'd be happy to answer

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any questions

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the petitioner is here if you have any

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questions of the petitioner as well

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will be given up to six afternoon

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discussion or is that is that proper Bob

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yes okay my name is Praveen gulati and

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I'm from Peak investment and asset

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management

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so

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um it's honorable common Council City

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Clerk and Zoning staff I like to

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reiterate that we respect the you know

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process and the vote but I like to say

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few things here

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that the intended use is for over 21

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years of age group people

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and the use is legal in the City of

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South Bend and the state of Indiana

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and the building is building is in a

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shape

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that it is in the three sections

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um you know and those are having why you

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know weight bearing wall unless you tear

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this building down and try to have

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something else there

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uh you cannot make use of this building

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so we have committed to the Improvement

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plan it is all there

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and there are restrained

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from the

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previous owners of the buildings

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it was a Speedway Corporation they used

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to have a gas station and a you know a

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little car repair shop there

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so in order to

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restain the competition they put a lease

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deed restriction that it cannot be used

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for fuel station it cannot be a grocery

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store it cannot be a you know like a

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Dairy Store

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so considering the building in question

576
00:28:31,260 --> 00:28:32,640
right there

577
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,440
uh you know we we see only two uses one

578
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,559
is that we have a you know like a quick

579
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:43,799
service restaurant or a web shop

580
00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:45,900
so in order to have a quick service

581
00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:47,880
restaurant I talked to the zoning staff

582
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,539
they said this place is a neighborhood

583
00:28:51,539 --> 00:28:53,760
District you know for pedestrian it

584
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,440
cannot be authorized for a drive-through

585
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,720
you know it is under your cities manual

586
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,419
or whatever the laws and the rules you

587
00:29:03,419 --> 00:29:04,500
have

588
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:08,460
and then uh other than that this is the

589
00:29:08,460 --> 00:29:09,900
only use we have

590
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:13,320
and this place is closed for 10 years we

591
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,360
want to open it I have the operators

592
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,440
here they have three three different uh

593
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,799
you know outfits in Indiana very

594
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:24,659
successful operation

595
00:29:24,659 --> 00:29:27,539
so under these circumstances you know

596
00:29:27,539 --> 00:29:28,980
either

597
00:29:28,980 --> 00:29:31,620
um you know as councilman Lee said last

598
00:29:31,620 --> 00:29:34,559
time that we have a better use but I

599
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:36,480
want to know what is that battle usage

600
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,520
you know and 97 98 of the franchises are

601
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,679
saying that you know you have to have a

602
00:29:43,679 --> 00:29:46,559
drive through in order to do a quick

603
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:48,120
service restaurant

604
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,679
and we have surveyed it we have done our

605
00:29:52,679 --> 00:29:55,200
due diligence and that is the only in in

606
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,960
the shape and manner this building is

607
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,480
and it is closed for several years that

608
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,539
is the only use we can do so rest is up

609
00:30:03,539 --> 00:30:06,059
to the council to decide I I mean this

610
00:30:06,059 --> 00:30:08,159
is what I have to say thank you thank

611
00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:08,880
you

612
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,860
council members if you have any question

613
00:30:10,860 --> 00:30:12,539
you can ask

614
00:30:12,539 --> 00:30:14,880
you council members do you have any any

615
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,620
statements

616
00:30:16,620 --> 00:30:18,179
like I said we've already done the

617
00:30:18,179 --> 00:30:19,980
public portion we've already had those

618
00:30:19,980 --> 00:30:21,840
who was against it we always had those

619
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,899
we already had that discussion part now

620
00:30:24,899 --> 00:30:27,600
it's it's we didn't vote on it because

621
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,899
we wanted to give it more time and and

622
00:30:30,899 --> 00:30:32,220
and and

623
00:30:32,220 --> 00:30:34,080
see if we can come up with a better use

624
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,520
for

625
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,460
the the facility

626
00:30:38,460 --> 00:30:41,100
um and the statute for a special

627
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,679
exemption is

628
00:30:43,679 --> 00:30:47,399
for alcohol and tobacco and the reason

629
00:30:47,399 --> 00:30:49,620
why they allow that to be there is so

630
00:30:49,620 --> 00:30:51,659
that the community does have an

631
00:30:51,659 --> 00:30:53,039
opportunity or the council has the

632
00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:54,480
opportunity to

633
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,419
say what goes into a neighborhood and

634
00:30:57,419 --> 00:30:59,760
one of the things that we have talked to

635
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,159
neighbors and people have spoke out

636
00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:04,380
against it it was that the neighbors are

637
00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:05,580
looking for something that's going to

638
00:31:05,580 --> 00:31:08,159
help lift the neighborhood up and they

639
00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:11,100
don't feel that a vape shop is is is

640
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:13,620
what would be good for the neighborhood

641
00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:16,200
and what it attracts so

642
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,240
I like to hear any of the council

643
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,039
members that would like to make a

644
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:23,810
statement

645
00:31:23,820 --> 00:31:26,940
councilman chair I was just are you open

646
00:31:26,940 --> 00:31:30,000
to a question yes I uh the question I

647
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,299
want to ask when we

648
00:31:33,299 --> 00:31:35,460
tabled this last time I think the

649
00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:38,159
request was to the therapy conversations

650
00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:41,820
with the neighbors has that happened and

651
00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:46,679
can you report on that we've talked to

652
00:31:46,679 --> 00:31:48,419
um various people from different parts

653
00:31:48,419 --> 00:31:51,240
of the first district especially in that

654
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,020
area

655
00:31:52,020 --> 00:31:54,419
and many people

656
00:31:54,419 --> 00:31:56,640
would like to see

657
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,080
something that's going to lift the

658
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,320
community up something that's going to

659
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,080
not bring it down not bring another

660
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,380
negative element to the community and so

661
00:32:07,380 --> 00:32:09,360
as I've talked to different people

662
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,659
that's been what what they've said to me

663
00:32:12,659 --> 00:32:14,460
and we even had people that spoke out

664
00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:17,880
against it in in the council meeting yes

665
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,820
Angela can you address the restrictions

666
00:32:20,820 --> 00:32:23,580
that were mentioned

667
00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:26,279
in relation to the drive-through in

668
00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:28,140
relation to that property as a whole

669
00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:31,799
like what can it be so there are some

670
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:34,020
deed restrictions which go outside of

671
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:36,179
the zoning enforcement so those wouldn't

672
00:32:36,179 --> 00:32:40,260
be for us to enforce in terms of a

673
00:32:40,260 --> 00:32:41,640
drive-through drive through would also

674
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,200
be a special exception so it would come

675
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,279
in front of the council if there was

676
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:45,440
going to be a drive-through restaurant

677
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,760
not sure the site's really big enough

678
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,659
for that but it could be a wider range

679
00:32:51,659 --> 00:32:54,860
of retail uses carryout restaurant

680
00:32:54,860 --> 00:32:57,659
it could be a dine-in restaurant it

681
00:32:57,659 --> 00:32:59,059
could be

682
00:32:59,059 --> 00:33:02,820
of any other retail other than a liquor

683
00:33:02,820 --> 00:33:05,100
store or tobacco or vape

684
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:08,159
without a special exception

685
00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:10,980
okay thank you

686
00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:13,799
the other question I had is there has

687
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:16,490
been a

688
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:21,360
a gentleman with a smoker and kind of a

689
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,419
portable restaurant kind of food

690
00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:25,620
and

691
00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:27,889
um

692
00:33:27,899 --> 00:33:30,600
are there people that are interested in

693
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,399
utilizing that property for other

694
00:33:32,399 --> 00:33:34,620
purposes that

695
00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:38,460
that information could be shared or

696
00:33:38,460 --> 00:33:41,940
I think that there we we've talked the

697
00:33:41,940 --> 00:33:43,740
city and there may be some ways to

698
00:33:43,740 --> 00:33:45,659
incentivize something that's going to

699
00:33:45,659 --> 00:33:47,820
lift the neighborhood up

700
00:33:47,820 --> 00:33:49,559
um there are people who may be

701
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,140
interested in pursuing an opportunity

702
00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:55,140
there uh again that that comes down to

703
00:33:55,140 --> 00:33:58,320
the finances and all of that but as far

704
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,600
as what what transformation Ministries

705
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,320
down the street with uh the issues that

706
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,600
we have with the liquor stores and the

707
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,000
gas stations and all of that stuff the

708
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,119
residents didn't feel like they wanted

709
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:13,859
something that was going to continue to

710
00:34:13,859 --> 00:34:22,369
compound the issue

711
00:34:22,379 --> 00:34:24,000
any other questions

712
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,760
let's have one for clarification because

713
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,320
I thought I heard two different things

714
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,560
so the special exemption is for liquor

715
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,320
stores or

716
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,139
tobacco or is it not for this type of

717
00:34:37,139 --> 00:34:38,520
establishment that's not what they're

718
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,320
requesting tonight that's the type of

719
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,419
retail like they're only requesting a

720
00:34:42,419 --> 00:34:44,940
special exception for smoke vape and

721
00:34:44,940 --> 00:34:47,220
tobacco they're not asking for liquor

722
00:34:47,220 --> 00:34:49,260
store tonight but they have to have the

723
00:34:49,260 --> 00:34:51,359
special exemption in order to have that

724
00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:53,220
type of business there if they wanted to

725
00:34:53,220 --> 00:34:57,300
yes I believe that's probably excluded

726
00:34:57,300 --> 00:34:58,740
under their deed restrictions if I

727
00:34:58,740 --> 00:35:03,710
recall also so

728
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:06,240
this would only this but as I mentioned

729
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:07,800
on the other special exceptions special

730
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,880
exceptions are a little bit different

731
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,040
than zoning and that it would only allow

732
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,859
the specific use to which the council

733
00:35:13,859 --> 00:35:15,540
was reviewing and would be subject to

734
00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:23,390
what was presented

735
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,640
if there's no other discussion yes yes

736
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,720
sure

737
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:31,380
um I I you left here last time because I

738
00:35:31,380 --> 00:35:33,960
remember I remember voting against it

739
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,119
not because of the business because of

740
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:38,460
what you guys were planning to do

741
00:35:38,460 --> 00:35:40,320
your conversation with the business

742
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,260
owner because I left with the impression

743
00:35:43,260 --> 00:35:45,240
on the record that you were going to

744
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:47,280
speak with a business owner

745
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,780
about alternative uses perhaps

746
00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:54,240
you know a certain time of selling of

747
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:55,980
the tobacco products

748
00:35:55,980 --> 00:35:57,839
I I don't know what was that

749
00:35:57,839 --> 00:36:00,720
conversation like we did not we did not

750
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,839
say that we would meet with the business

751
00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:06,480
owners about certain times of no no I

752
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,460
didn't say that I said

753
00:36:08,460 --> 00:36:10,619
for example what I'm asking you what was

754
00:36:10,619 --> 00:36:11,760
your conversation with the business

755
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,520
owner when we when we met with the

756
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,859
business owner we did talk to him about

757
00:36:16,859 --> 00:36:19,980
other opportunities of another type of

758
00:36:19,980 --> 00:36:21,660
business that would be something that

759
00:36:21,660 --> 00:36:23,579
could lift up the neighborhood

760
00:36:23,579 --> 00:36:26,760
and we did have that discussion

761
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,760
and the result of the discussion was

762
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,920
it will be determined on the things that

763
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,680
the city would be willing to to help

764
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,880
with and um again that was to see if

765
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,800
there was interested because there is a

766
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,760
person who's seller uh barbecue there in

767
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,619
the in the uh

768
00:36:46,619 --> 00:36:48,720
the business owner sir I'm asking what

769
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:50,339
is a conversation with your business

770
00:36:50,339 --> 00:36:52,520
owner what was it like what happened

771
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,320
like to put a vape shop there I'm sorry

772
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,180
his conversation was he would like to

773
00:36:57,180 --> 00:36:59,760
put the bait shop there and he wasn't

774
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,300
willing to change based upon what you

775
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:06,720
think it should be and it's still at the

776
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,119
end of the day was I I was I could have

777
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,940
a sign lease and have a vape shop here

778
00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:14,760
and we could could start uh

779
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,280
getting getting Vapes out there

780
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,220
so I would like to

781
00:37:20,220 --> 00:37:22,440
um entertain emotions you can't do that

782
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,200
I'm not done talking okay first of all

783
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,060
this today but you can't do that you

784
00:37:27,060 --> 00:37:28,619
open the floor for people to ask

785
00:37:28,619 --> 00:37:30,000
questions and then you're cutting me off

786
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,460
you you were saying I wasn't done I was

787
00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:33,660
waiting for you to complete your your

788
00:37:33,660 --> 00:37:37,010
response

789
00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:38,760
are you finished

790
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,880
Mr Davis yes go ahead say what you got

791
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,599
to say oh I have a lot to say so when

792
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:47,400
you had your conversation in the

793
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,320
conversation not go the direction that

794
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,359
you desire to go

795
00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:53,160
so you're at a stalemate with the

796
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,320
business owner about whether the use of

797
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,660
this property should be a vase shop or

798
00:37:57,660 --> 00:37:58,740
not

799
00:37:58,740 --> 00:38:02,520
or did the conversation end

800
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,940
um amicably as the conversation was I

801
00:38:05,940 --> 00:38:07,800
would like to put a vape shop in there I

802
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,460
said that before what what um I would

803
00:38:11,460 --> 00:38:13,200
love for us to be able to work together

804
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,780
to find something to put in that area

805
00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:16,800
that's going to help lift the

806
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,540
neighborhood up and so with the

807
00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:20,460
residents

808
00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:22,560
oh I'm not stepping on anything I was

809
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,060
just wondering if the conversation was

810
00:38:24,060 --> 00:38:27,180
about some conversation I'm sorry I said

811
00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:30,599
that was the conversation okay so

812
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:31,440
um

813
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,900
you keep saying something we need

814
00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:35,400
something there that's uplifting to the

815
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,260
neighborhood what is something not can

816
00:38:37,260 --> 00:38:39,780
you define that for me please

817
00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:42,420
I would say

818
00:38:42,420 --> 00:38:44,880
because there is someone already selling

819
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,859
barbecue there is there could be a

820
00:38:46,859 --> 00:38:48,960
Subway it could be a Little Caesars it

821
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,460
could be something that that's going to

822
00:38:50,460 --> 00:38:52,680
be positive and not something that's

823
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,220
going to continue to draw negative uh

824
00:38:56,220 --> 00:39:00,020
negative crowd to that area so again

825
00:39:00,020 --> 00:39:02,760
we're very much interested in having a

826
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,440
conversation seeing what what we could

827
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,859
do as as a city working together and my

828
00:39:07,859 --> 00:39:11,160
statement to the owner was this is an

829
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,420
opportunity that we could do something

830
00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:14,820
that's going to lift the community up

831
00:39:14,820 --> 00:39:18,540
would you be willing to to to

832
00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:20,700
partner with the city

833
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:23,640
and we find something that's a better

834
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,520
fit than a vape shop

835
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,140
you know

836
00:39:28,140 --> 00:39:30,060
um when you

837
00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:34,260
Define something or whatever that is

838
00:39:34,260 --> 00:39:36,900
the market now I talked about this

839
00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:39,960
before has to suggest

840
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,119
the things that you are defining as

841
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:43,560
something

842
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,920
this gentleman is a investor

843
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,640
you cannot redefine what the elements

844
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,859
are already saying in that particular

845
00:39:52,859 --> 00:39:54,420
area

846
00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:58,560
if the area is low income

847
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,220
chances of you bringing in a Taj Mahal

848
00:40:01,220 --> 00:40:04,920
or is next to zero it's just how the

849
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,200
market goes it performs

850
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,720
with the demographic

851
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:11,700
and the value of the particular area

852
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:14,160
there's nothing you can do to change

853
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,099
that so are you saying because this is a

854
00:40:17,099 --> 00:40:20,820
African-American area or a place that

855
00:40:20,820 --> 00:40:22,400
has been

856
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,859
that has had some some downturn that the

857
00:40:25,859 --> 00:40:28,619
only we should accept just anything in

858
00:40:28,619 --> 00:40:30,599
our neighborhood no sir what I am saying

859
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:31,500
to you

860
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:35,400
is that in order to get that area the

861
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,440
way that you desire it to be the way you

862
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,000
Vision it it should be

863
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,680
there's a number of things that are

864
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,660
going against it one is the school

865
00:40:42,660 --> 00:40:44,339
that'll shut down down the street which

866
00:40:44,339 --> 00:40:47,040
is called LaSalle the other issue that

867
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,220
you have in that area is called traffic

868
00:40:49,220 --> 00:40:52,320
earlier there was a presentation from

869
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,200
property vacation and another committee

870
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,660
a property vacation and they talked

871
00:40:57,660 --> 00:41:00,359
about the traffic riding it up and down

872
00:41:00,359 --> 00:41:04,020
the alleyway that same logic has to be

873
00:41:04,020 --> 00:41:05,280
applied to when you're talking about

874
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,660
Lincolnway you're talking about Western

875
00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:08,040
you're talking about Portage and other

876
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,859
areas that are considered corridors so

877
00:41:10,859 --> 00:41:13,440
in order for you to realize

878
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,200
uh new development at a higher level

879
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,480
your traffic count has to be

880
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,520
High okay it has nothing to do with

881
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,680
being black or being white or any ethnic

882
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,079
group it has everything to do with what

883
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:28,380
the the the outliers economic outliers

884
00:41:28,380 --> 00:41:31,020
are saying to you your economic outliers

885
00:41:31,020 --> 00:41:34,680
are not saying that this area is primed

886
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,599
for high development

887
00:41:36,599 --> 00:41:38,640
so in order for you to get to the high

888
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,200
development you can't tell a small

889
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,440
business investors no because they are

890
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,060
going to bring traffic to that area

891
00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:47,640
which will increase

892
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,920
the dollar amount for that area

893
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,040
so no it has nothing to do with race it

894
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,660
has everything to do with what the

895
00:41:54,660 --> 00:41:56,700
market and how the market performs in

896
00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:59,160
certain areas for instance

897
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,260
when Mishawaka thought it was a great

898
00:42:01,260 --> 00:42:03,900
idea to open their streets up you

899
00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:06,180
started seeing a lot more volume of

900
00:42:06,180 --> 00:42:08,520
traffic you start to see it a lot more

901
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,140
investment into the area you start to

902
00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:13,500
see tax-based expansion when you saw the

903
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:15,300
city of South Bend take their Corridor

904
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:18,180
streets and decrease the width of them

905
00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:20,520
you started seeing businesses move out

906
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,940
it has nothing to do with race it has

907
00:42:23,940 --> 00:42:25,500
everything to do with with the

908
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:28,140
atmosphere the economic outliers say to

909
00:42:28,140 --> 00:42:30,599
you so no it's not a racial conversation

910
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:33,240
sir it's a fact conversation so at what

911
00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:36,359
point do we not ask our community to

912
00:42:36,359 --> 00:42:38,099
tell us what they want in the

913
00:42:38,099 --> 00:42:39,240
neighborhood and there's certain things

914
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:40,560
that they I think we need to be more

915
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,140
realistic so when we go about our

916
00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:45,599
Council business okay when we go about

917
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:47,880
our Council business it is up to the

918
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,359
representative to demand better from the

919
00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:53,820
plane Department based upon those areas

920
00:42:53,820 --> 00:42:56,220
and then when we talk about the

921
00:42:56,220 --> 00:42:58,800
expansion of Tif districts and how money

922
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,900
is actually being invested in those

923
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:02,940
areas as it relates to infrastructure we

924
00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:05,780
have to ride those issues to ensure

925
00:43:05,780 --> 00:43:08,280
successful investment in those areas

926
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,740
that's how you get it done okay for more

927
00:43:10,740 --> 00:43:13,260
race today but the other way to get it

928
00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:16,920
done is insurance we have to move on I'm

929
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,380
trying to figure this out

930
00:43:18,380 --> 00:43:20,819
give me 10 more seconds we're good give

931
00:43:20,819 --> 00:43:24,119
me 10 more seconds over five minutes so

932
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:25,800
we're gonna we're gonna move

933
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,900
I will now entertain a motion regarding

934
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:29,700
this bill

935
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:35,270
move for favorable recommendation

936
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,089
thank you

937
00:43:38,099 --> 00:43:40,980
I'll second that

938
00:43:40,980 --> 00:43:43,079
all right it's been a motion and second

939
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:45,900
Clark Jones please call the world

940
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:48,839
council member Lee next

941
00:43:48,839 --> 00:43:51,060
council member Warner

942
00:43:51,060 --> 00:43:52,680
nay

943
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,960
councilmember wax

944
00:43:54,960 --> 00:44:01,380
council member Thomas Morgan

945
00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:03,359
councilmember Hammond

946
00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:05,099
I

947
00:44:05,099 --> 00:44:09,589
vice president nay

948
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,280
councilmember Davis

949
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,780
aye

950
00:44:12,780 --> 00:44:49,609
president McBride

951
00:44:49,619 --> 00:44:51,359
can you call the roll again for me

952
00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:52,920
please yes

953
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,380
council member Lee next

954
00:44:55,380 --> 00:44:58,619
council member Warner

955
00:44:58,619 --> 00:45:00,720
council member wax

956
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:04,020
aye councilmember white nay

957
00:45:04,020 --> 00:45:06,780
council member Thomas Morgan

958
00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:09,900
council member Hammond aye

959
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:12,900
vice president niskowski nay

960
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:14,700
council member Davis

961
00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:15,359
aye

962
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:17,160
president McBride

963
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,309
aye

964
00:45:19,319 --> 00:45:23,930
we have four eyes in five days

965
00:45:23,940 --> 00:45:27,540
all right bill 69-22 will

966
00:45:27,540 --> 00:45:29,880
will be sent to the full council with

967
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,530
the

968
00:45:32,540 --> 00:45:36,660
chair that motion fell so there needs to

969
00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:39,300
be another motion for either and no

970
00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:43,859
recommendation or an unfavorable

971
00:45:43,859 --> 00:45:46,680
chair can I add a comment yes I just

972
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,420
want to there are a couple things that

973
00:45:48,420 --> 00:45:51,780
I'd like to say here so I drive this

974
00:45:51,780 --> 00:45:54,119
Corridor

975
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:57,000
um frequently and

976
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,660
um it's it's a challenged area we know

977
00:46:00,660 --> 00:46:02,160
that

978
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,920
um there's an alcohol store there's a

979
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,800
liquor store there are two convenience

980
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,040
stores I'm not sure about the second one

981
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,640
but at least one of those has

982
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,119
does have tobacco sales

983
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:19,099
there are

984
00:46:19,099 --> 00:46:23,839
to gas and Automotive related

985
00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:27,950
businesses in that area

986
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,520
and so

987
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,319
what

988
00:46:31,319 --> 00:46:32,400
um

989
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,300
what what is challenging to me is the

990
00:46:36,300 --> 00:46:39,180
kinds of businesses that are currently

991
00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:40,280
there

992
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,920
and how they serve this

993
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,609
um

994
00:46:46,619 --> 00:46:50,700
lower socioeconomic area in our in our

995
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:51,859
city

996
00:46:51,859 --> 00:46:55,680
what we know about research on this is

997
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,980
that tobacco retail shops and Specialty

998
00:46:58,980 --> 00:47:01,560
vapor shops are disproportionately

999
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,859
present in neighborhoods where social

1000
00:47:04,859 --> 00:47:07,020
socially disadvantaged Youth and

1001
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:08,640
families live

1002
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,380
so

1003
00:47:10,380 --> 00:47:11,460
um

1004
00:47:11,460 --> 00:47:14,760
this is not just a special exception

1005
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,960
request

1006
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,720
in my opinion but it's a it's also a

1007
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:20,579
policy issue

1008
00:47:20,579 --> 00:47:22,560
and it's related to Health Equity and

1009
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,839
environmental justice

1010
00:47:24,839 --> 00:47:28,380
and it's about seeking ways to limit

1011
00:47:28,380 --> 00:47:31,920
the density of tobacco-related retail

1012
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,780
and Vapor

1013
00:47:33,780 --> 00:47:38,460
Shop outlets in lower socioeconomic

1014
00:47:38,460 --> 00:47:41,579
status neighborhoods

1015
00:47:41,579 --> 00:47:43,800
um and so for those reasons I have a

1016
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,010
real

1017
00:47:46,020 --> 00:47:48,900
problem with this development in this

1018
00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:51,240
part in this part of the city

1019
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:54,780
I will uh entertain another motion

1020
00:47:54,780 --> 00:47:57,740
I'd like to move that we send Bill

1021
00:47:57,740 --> 00:48:01,740
69-22 to the full Council

1022
00:48:01,740 --> 00:48:08,170
with an unfavorable recommendation

1023
00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:11,220
second there's been a motion in the

1024
00:48:11,220 --> 00:48:13,680
second Claire Jones please call the roll

1025
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,720
council member Warner

1026
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:17,819
aye councilmember wax

1027
00:48:17,819 --> 00:48:19,380
okay

1028
00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:21,420
councilmember white

1029
00:48:21,420 --> 00:48:22,500
aye

1030
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:24,720
council member Thomas Morgan

1031
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:25,800
aye

1032
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:33,710
councilmember Hammond

1033
00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:35,099
aye

1034
00:48:35,099 --> 00:48:37,200
vice president

1035
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,160
aye

1036
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,119
council member Davis nog

1037
00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:44,520
council member Lee

1038
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,359
aye

1039
00:48:45,359 --> 00:48:47,339
president McBride

1040
00:48:47,339 --> 00:48:48,900
aye seven eyes

1041
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:51,480
okay this will be sent to the full

1042
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:59,930
council with unfavorable recommendation

1043
00:48:59,940 --> 00:49:04,500
bill 71-22 has been tabled until

1044
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:07,560
continued I'm sorry I'm sorry until

1045
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,839
January the 23rd

1046
00:49:09,839 --> 00:49:12,300
and so Clark Jones would you please give

1047
00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:15,200
Bill 70

1048
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:20,650
74-22 a second reading

1049
00:49:20,660 --> 00:49:24,119
74-22 public hearing on an ordinance of

1050
00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:25,680
the common Council of the city of South

1051
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,079
Bend Indiana amending the zoning

1052
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:30,660
ordinance for property located at 505

1053
00:49:30,660 --> 00:49:35,520
Ireland Road 4412 fellow street and 4422

1054
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,619
fellow street councilmanning District

1055
00:49:37,619 --> 00:49:39,780
number five in the city of South Bend

1056
00:49:39,780 --> 00:49:44,329
Indiana

1057
00:49:44,339 --> 00:49:48,000
all right is there a committee report

1058
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,380
yes chair bill number is 7422 came

1059
00:49:52,380 --> 00:49:54,900
before zoning and annexation this

1060
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:57,780
afternoon and comes to the community as

1061
00:49:57,780 --> 00:49:59,700
a whole with a favorable recommendation

1062
00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:01,740
is the petitioner president asked did

1063
00:50:01,740 --> 00:50:02,880
you state your name and address and

1064
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,200
share with us key points regarding the

1065
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,660
bill that's before us Angela Smith Sonia

1066
00:50:06,660 --> 00:50:08,400
Mr chair with city of South Bend offices

1067
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,720
located in the 14th floor of this

1068
00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:12,420
building the property in question is 505

1069
00:50:12,420 --> 00:50:15,839
Ireland 4412 and 4422 that's three

1070
00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:18,720
Parcels as noted by the three addresses

1071
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:22,750
and it is

1072
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,440
and it's at the corner of fellows in

1073
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,720
Ireland see if my presentation will keep

1074
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:32,569
going we lost connection here

1075
00:50:32,579 --> 00:50:34,440
the city wants to keep kicking me off of

1076
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,370
Wi-Fi sorry

1077
00:50:35,370 --> 00:50:41,510
[Laughter]

1078
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,040
the property owner has an existing

1079
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,740
business and building located on the

1080
00:50:46,740 --> 00:50:49,920
southern two lots has acquired the the

1081
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,040
northernmost quite some time ago and is

1082
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,800
looking to do an expansion of what they

1083
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,079
have and replicating the type of use

1084
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:00,720
that they have the offices this is

1085
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:01,680
slightly different than what you

1086
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,660
normally see from us generally when we

1087
00:51:03,660 --> 00:51:05,339
have a commercial expansion we're really

1088
00:51:05,339 --> 00:51:07,079
concerned about how it might impact our

1089
00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:09,800
surrounding Neighbors in this case

1090
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,380
as we showed earlier today there is a

1091
00:51:13,380 --> 00:51:15,540
city retention area just north of the

1092
00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:18,000
site and then the city public golf

1093
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,780
course to the east which really prevent

1094
00:51:20,780 --> 00:51:23,339
this commercial from expanding much

1095
00:51:23,339 --> 00:51:26,339
Beyond its current footprint

1096
00:51:26,339 --> 00:51:29,160
uh you can see here that it's in a

1097
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,440
commercially a Suburban kind of

1098
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,440
commercial area the property on the west

1099
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,660
extends commercial to about the same

1100
00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:38,460
location and then you have some

1101
00:51:38,460 --> 00:51:40,740
commercial properties across the street

1102
00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:43,619
uh the existing building is kind of more

1103
00:51:43,619 --> 00:51:45,960
residential in character which is part

1104
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,420
of the written commitment request is for

1105
00:51:48,420 --> 00:51:50,280
a hipped or gabled roof to kind of

1106
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,900
replicate this building and make sure we

1107
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:53,880
get something appropriate as a

1108
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,800
transition to the neighborhood

1109
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,619
the existing property occupies the area

1110
00:51:58,619 --> 00:52:01,859
here in the Red outlet outline and the

1111
00:52:01,859 --> 00:52:03,780
expansion would be kind of a duplication

1112
00:52:03,780 --> 00:52:06,599
of that to the north the sea commercial

1113
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:08,460
will allow them to do that in the

1114
00:52:08,460 --> 00:52:10,140
configuration that's consistent with

1115
00:52:10,140 --> 00:52:13,260
what they had previously this comes to

1116
00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:14,520
you from the plan commission with a

1117
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,380
favorable recommendation subject to the

1118
00:52:16,380 --> 00:52:18,660
following rent commitments one all

1119
00:52:18,660 --> 00:52:20,520
buildings shall have a hipster gabled

1120
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,680
roof and two drive-through facilities

1121
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,680
shall be not be permitted be happy to

1122
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,240
answer questions the presenter or the

1123
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:29,339
petitioner is here as well

1124
00:52:29,339 --> 00:52:32,220
petitioner would you like to

1125
00:52:32,220 --> 00:52:37,849
say anything

1126
00:52:37,859 --> 00:52:40,140
good evening members of the council

1127
00:52:40,140 --> 00:52:42,660
my name is Mark mache I live at 19110

1128
00:52:42,660 --> 00:52:45,180
Farmington Lane on the south side of

1129
00:52:45,180 --> 00:52:46,440
South Bend

1130
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,440
we built the original building in 2006

1131
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,480
with myself and two business partners

1132
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,000
this is currently the only real estate

1133
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,180
that we own commercially and have owned

1134
00:52:57,180 --> 00:53:00,960
the residential lots since 2015 when we

1135
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,140
bought it from Ray Unruh

1136
00:53:04,140 --> 00:53:06,000
we would like to continue our investment

1137
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,520
in the South Side uh adding we feel like

1138
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,079
there needs more opportunity for

1139
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:11,640
Professional Services in this type of

1140
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:12,420
building

1141
00:53:12,420 --> 00:53:16,440
is uh perfect for that type of

1142
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,780
of opportunity

1143
00:53:18,780 --> 00:53:20,819
the adjacency to the golf course makes

1144
00:53:20,819 --> 00:53:23,000
it an attractive professional location

1145
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,980
we did spend time walking the

1146
00:53:25,980 --> 00:53:28,260
neighborhood and speaking to the the

1147
00:53:28,260 --> 00:53:30,720
neighbors we're able to speak with four

1148
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:32,960
of the seven houses just to the north

1149
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,359
and all of which had no objections

1150
00:53:36,359 --> 00:53:38,460
several made comments on the

1151
00:53:38,460 --> 00:53:41,280
architecture and the quality of the

1152
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,680
existing building and our commitment to

1153
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,559
replicate that in a second building the

1154
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:48,780
only negative was a mention of traffic

1155
00:53:48,780 --> 00:53:50,819
and we're going to keep the entrance

1156
00:53:50,819 --> 00:53:53,160
where it is so no traffic would would

1157
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,200
progress down fellows any further than

1158
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,460
it already does to enter the current

1159
00:53:56,460 --> 00:53:59,650
building

1160
00:53:59,660 --> 00:54:02,280
all right thank you council members do

1161
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,480
you have any questions for the petition

1162
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:08,630
at all

1163
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,140
at this time we'll go to the public

1164
00:54:10,140 --> 00:54:12,359
hearing portion Clark Jones is there

1165
00:54:12,359 --> 00:54:13,800
anyone from the public wishing to speak

1166
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:23,089
in favor of Bill 74-22

1167
00:54:23,099 --> 00:54:26,220
favor of this bill

1168
00:54:26,220 --> 00:54:29,220
is there anyone present wishing to speak

1169
00:54:29,220 --> 00:54:33,290
in opposition

1170
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:35,700
there's no one from the virtual public

1171
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:37,740
that is expressing interest to speak in

1172
00:54:37,740 --> 00:54:40,079
opposition of this bill at this point

1173
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:42,900
the public hearing on bill 74-22 is now

1174
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:45,119
closed council members would you like to

1175
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:46,500
make any statements

1176
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:49,440
yes absolutely but Eli is his district

1177
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,680
so he can go first get his hand up

1178
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,079
sorry that's all right thank you I just

1179
00:54:55,079 --> 00:54:57,780
wanted to thank the petitioner for his

1180
00:54:57,780 --> 00:55:00,200
uh previous investment in South Side

1181
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,579
South Bend generally

1182
00:55:02,579 --> 00:55:05,339
a south side is special to me obviously

1183
00:55:05,339 --> 00:55:08,339
and his continued commitment to invest I

1184
00:55:08,339 --> 00:55:10,440
just want to wish you success in your

1185
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:11,700
investment

1186
00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:13,619
thank you

1187
00:55:13,619 --> 00:55:16,319
Mr Davis I I Echo it the same city

1188
00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:18,720
Minister he just um

1189
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:21,720
he just conveyed to you but I wanted to

1190
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:23,579
go a little bit deeper

1191
00:55:23,579 --> 00:55:25,200
um several years ago

1192
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,359
there was a plan to take out the entire

1193
00:55:27,359 --> 00:55:31,020
Corner houses turn into some type of

1194
00:55:31,020 --> 00:55:33,780
like highway system I worked really hard

1195
00:55:33,780 --> 00:55:36,420
with the folks on fellow street to stop

1196
00:55:36,420 --> 00:55:38,520
that plan as a matter of fact we not

1197
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,980
only stopped the plan but we were able

1198
00:55:40,980 --> 00:55:42,780
to get curbs and sidewalks in the area

1199
00:55:42,780 --> 00:55:45,359
to make more walkable which obviously

1200
00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:48,720
helps what you're doing right now as it

1201
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,220
relates to what we just finished talking

1202
00:55:50,220 --> 00:55:52,319
about with the gentleman prior to this

1203
00:55:52,319 --> 00:55:54,720
particular bill it is a part of

1204
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,940
development how development works you

1205
00:55:56,940 --> 00:55:58,559
couldn't do what you're doing right now

1206
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:01,559
without Highway going through with all

1207
00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:03,960
those houses missing so in order to have

1208
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,059
to say that neighborhood that could have

1209
00:56:06,059 --> 00:56:07,559
not existed

1210
00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:10,079
it's it's it's a very easy understanding

1211
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:12,960
of how this works and so again I

1212
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,819
appreciate your investment to the city

1213
00:56:14,819 --> 00:56:16,800
of South Bend look forward to more

1214
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,900
actually

1215
00:56:18,900 --> 00:56:24,549
anyone else

1216
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:27,540
I will now entertain a motion regarding

1217
00:56:27,540 --> 00:56:32,770
bill 74-22

1218
00:56:32,780 --> 00:56:36,359
74-22 be sent to the cons full council

1219
00:56:36,359 --> 00:56:37,500
with the favorable recommendations

1220
00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:39,240
second

1221
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:40,859
all right there's a bit of motion in the

1222
00:56:40,859 --> 00:56:42,300
second Clark Jones please call the world

1223
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:44,520
council member wax

1224
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:45,599
aye

1225
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:50,450
White

1226
00:56:50,460 --> 00:56:53,280
I vice president

1227
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,319
aye council member Davis

1228
00:56:55,319 --> 00:56:57,000
aye council member Lee

1229
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,819
aye council member Warner aye president

1230
00:56:59,819 --> 00:57:01,140
McBride

1231
00:57:01,140 --> 00:57:03,540
aye nine eyes all right

1232
00:57:03,540 --> 00:57:06,300
bill 74-22 will be sent to the full

1233
00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:07,140
council with the favorable

1234
00:57:07,140 --> 00:57:08,460
recommendation

1235
00:57:08,460 --> 00:57:10,079
uh

1236
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:12,740
Clark Jones would you please give Bill

1237
00:57:12,740 --> 00:57:16,020
79-22 a second reading

1238
00:57:16,020 --> 00:57:21,290
89 22 public

1239
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:23,280
proving competition of The Advisory

1240
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,619
Board of zoning appeals for property

1241
00:57:25,619 --> 00:57:31,040
located at 7468 and 7686 Gordon Parkway

1242
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,599
councilmanic District number one in the

1243
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:35,460
city of South Bend Indiana

1244
00:57:35,460 --> 00:57:37,980
all right is the petitioner she's

1245
00:57:37,980 --> 00:57:40,579
present

1246
00:57:40,579 --> 00:57:43,319
yes there is thank you

1247
00:57:43,319 --> 00:57:47,520
um bill 789-22 came before zoning and

1248
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,280
annexation this afternoon and comes to

1249
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,960
the committee of the whole with a

1250
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,000
favorable recommendation

1251
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,400
all right we have our petitioner and I

1252
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,540
ask that you state your name and address

1253
00:57:57,540 --> 00:57:59,099
I share with us key points we got

1254
00:57:59,099 --> 00:58:05,630
regarding this bill

1255
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,020
okay before you use a request for a

1256
00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:08,579
special exception for heavy industrial

1257
00:58:08,579 --> 00:58:10,619
the property is located out near the

1258
00:58:10,619 --> 00:58:13,559
Tire Rack at Warden and Dynam boulevards

1259
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:16,380
it's currently vacant it's been vacant

1260
00:58:16,380 --> 00:58:19,500
since the industrial subdivision kind of

1261
00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:22,140
came through and sat here and developed

1262
00:58:22,140 --> 00:58:23,940
the petitioner is looking to use both

1263
00:58:23,940 --> 00:58:27,359
lots to develop a large warehouse and

1264
00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:29,359
distribution facility

1265
00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:33,240
with some chemical potential in the the

1266
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,900
works because there may be

1267
00:58:35,900 --> 00:58:39,720
dangerous or hazardous materials just to

1268
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,400
be safe they are asking for the special

1269
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,020
exception for the heavy industrial

1270
00:58:43,020 --> 00:58:45,059
classification there aren't many things

1271
00:58:45,059 --> 00:58:46,440
that kind of trigger between the two we

1272
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,000
only have one industrial classification

1273
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,740
so anytime it's a heavy industrial it's

1274
00:58:49,740 --> 00:58:51,599
always a special exception with a

1275
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:54,240
council in this case it's located in an

1276
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,680
industrial district surrounded by

1277
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,559
industrial uses and the portion that

1278
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:00,900
might be of that use is located behind

1279
00:59:00,900 --> 00:59:03,780
and out of side of the the traveling

1280
00:59:03,780 --> 00:59:06,839
public so it's of situated for the

1281
00:59:06,839 --> 00:59:08,359
intended use

1282
00:59:08,359 --> 00:59:12,119
based on the information that we had in

1283
00:59:12,119 --> 00:59:13,680
a discussion with the poor zoning

1284
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,059
appeals they send this to you with a

1285
00:59:15,059 --> 00:59:17,280
favorable recommendation the petitioner

1286
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,839
is here and we'll be happy to answer any

1287
00:59:18,839 --> 00:59:21,180
questions all right if you would please

1288
00:59:21,180 --> 00:59:22,859
approach the podium give us your name

1289
00:59:22,859 --> 00:59:25,559
and address please

1290
00:59:25,559 --> 00:59:26,760
thank you sir my name is George

1291
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,299
lepignotas my address is 4101 Edison

1292
00:59:30,299 --> 00:59:32,339
Lakes Parkway Mishawaka Indiana I'm

1293
00:59:32,339 --> 00:59:34,319
attorney with Creek default I represent

1294
00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:37,980
Coast southwest coast Southwest is a

1295
00:59:37,980 --> 00:59:41,640
family company that has been has been in

1296
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,559
business for many decades currently

1297
00:59:43,559 --> 00:59:45,660
headquartered in California with a

1298
00:59:45,660 --> 00:59:49,099
facility in Texas they also have some

1299
00:59:49,099 --> 00:59:51,540
currently leased facilities throughout

1300
00:59:51,540 --> 00:59:52,880
the Midwest

1301
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,680
the owners of Coast Southwest Are Notre

1302
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,720
Dame alumni and wanted to expand their

1303
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,940
Midwest footprint they naturally looked

1304
00:59:59,940 --> 01:00:02,640
to South Bend and found the real estate

1305
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,500
that was previously mentioned by the

1306
01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:06,319
zoning administrator

1307
01:00:06,319 --> 01:00:09,660
the application before you today is made

1308
01:00:09,660 --> 01:00:13,380
out of an abundance of caution 70 of

1309
01:00:13,380 --> 01:00:16,440
Coast Southwest work is packaged Goods

1310
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,220
they do not process on-site they simply

1311
01:00:19,220 --> 01:00:22,260
buy the packages and then resell as a

1312
01:00:22,260 --> 01:00:24,599
distributor would however in partnership

1313
01:00:24,599 --> 01:00:26,640
with the University of Notre Dame they

1314
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,380
are looking at potentially

1315
01:00:28,380 --> 01:00:30,240
commercializing some new types of

1316
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,200
processes that could trigger that the

1317
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,619
ingredients that Coast Southwest handles

1318
01:00:37,619 --> 01:00:38,520
um

1319
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,520
could be considered hazardous in some of

1320
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,619
their forms throughout the process so it

1321
01:00:43,619 --> 01:00:45,960
is important that they are up front and

1322
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,720
ask for this designation sooner rather

1323
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,240
than later partly because of their

1324
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,700
corporate philosophy they're a extremely

1325
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:55,140
they take pride in their corporate

1326
01:00:55,140 --> 01:00:57,000
responsibilities their multi-year

1327
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,920
Excellence Award winner from What's

1328
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,079
called the nacd which is which is the

1329
01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:02,400
National Association of chemical

1330
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,460
Distributors they use best practices as

1331
01:01:05,460 --> 01:01:06,839
you can imagine in a state like

1332
01:01:06,839 --> 01:01:08,640
California they are very comfortable

1333
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,980
dealing with federal state and local

1334
01:01:10,980 --> 01:01:14,099
regulations and the building is being

1335
01:01:14,099 --> 01:01:16,140
designed and potentially built by

1336
01:01:16,140 --> 01:01:19,380
holiday properties so an experienced

1337
01:01:19,380 --> 01:01:22,319
outfit doing that portion as well it

1338
01:01:22,319 --> 01:01:24,960
will have all necessary and legal

1339
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,240
requirements for redundancies to ensure

1340
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,099
the safety of the general public as well

1341
01:01:29,099 --> 01:01:31,140
as the environmental resources in the

1342
01:01:31,140 --> 01:01:32,780
community

1343
01:01:32,780 --> 01:01:34,619
council members do you have any

1344
01:01:34,619 --> 01:01:37,849
questions

1345
01:01:37,859 --> 01:01:39,780
I know that some of these industrial

1346
01:01:39,780 --> 01:01:42,299
buildings have to have these these uh

1347
01:01:42,299 --> 01:01:43,920
cages that

1348
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,680
in case something happens it contains

1349
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,319
everything and this this will have that

1350
01:01:49,319 --> 01:01:51,599
correct yeah and I believe if you look

1351
01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:52,980
it's a little hard to see but on the

1352
01:01:52,980 --> 01:01:54,540
screen there is

1353
01:01:54,540 --> 01:01:57,059
um the plan is for 94 000 square feet of

1354
01:01:57,059 --> 01:01:59,099
the potential 200 000 square feet to be

1355
01:01:59,099 --> 01:02:02,760
built immediately uh there is a small

1356
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,200
um uh

1357
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,839
square with an arrow pointing to it that

1358
01:02:06,839 --> 01:02:08,359
is the potential

1359
01:02:08,359 --> 01:02:11,040
containment center for anything that

1360
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,799
might be categorized as hazardous

1361
01:02:13,799 --> 01:02:16,559
thank you anyone else

1362
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:20,099
Mr wax with this project uh go forward

1363
01:02:20,099 --> 01:02:22,980
without this uh exception

1364
01:02:22,980 --> 01:02:26,099
that's a great question that's uh when I

1365
01:02:26,099 --> 01:02:27,780
was first approached by my client the

1366
01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:29,160
question was whether or not they even

1367
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,799
needed this the heavy industrial

1368
01:02:31,799 --> 01:02:35,040
exception given what they're doing they

1369
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,480
feel very

1370
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,319
um

1371
01:02:37,319 --> 01:02:39,480
confident that what they are doing does

1372
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,760
not as I told the committee earlier this

1373
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,799
isn't green goop you know bubbling out

1374
01:02:43,799 --> 01:02:46,020
of a vat but

1375
01:02:46,020 --> 01:02:47,819
um you know environmental laws are just

1376
01:02:47,819 --> 01:02:50,280
getting more and more restrictive and so

1377
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,880
they do feel it's important that they

1378
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,460
check the the boxes that the city has

1379
01:02:56,460 --> 01:02:59,040
set forth in its ordinance its ordinance

1380
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,280
for having Industrials very specific

1381
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,140
if you are handling hazardous material

1382
01:03:04,140 --> 01:03:07,740
that qualifies you as as uh heavy

1383
01:03:07,740 --> 01:03:10,559
industrial so they feel it's important

1384
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:14,099
what what kind of economic impact

1385
01:03:14,099 --> 01:03:17,339
would this project bring their employees

1386
01:03:17,339 --> 01:03:20,339
what kind of salaries what other

1387
01:03:20,339 --> 01:03:23,160
economic drivers with this brand so um

1388
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,819
in addition to the aforementioned

1389
01:03:26,819 --> 01:03:29,579
um employees I'm sorry the building of

1390
01:03:29,579 --> 01:03:31,799
the space you know the plan is for 94

1391
01:03:31,799 --> 01:03:33,380
000 square foot immediate construction

1392
01:03:33,380 --> 01:03:36,720
uh that will be staffed by eight to ten

1393
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,780
new hires here in this community uh if

1394
01:03:39,780 --> 01:03:43,079
the project is successful and

1395
01:03:43,079 --> 01:03:45,000
um grows and and that's probably a

1396
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,460
misstatement if the project grows the

1397
01:03:47,460 --> 01:03:49,500
the use is already there they already

1398
01:03:49,500 --> 01:03:51,119
have sales offices throughout the

1399
01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:52,380
Midwest that they're going to

1400
01:03:52,380 --> 01:03:54,960
consolidate here in the South Bend and

1401
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,760
they also currently have a distribution

1402
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,099
center in Illinois that they would then

1403
01:03:59,099 --> 01:04:02,099
vacate that lease and move over so the

1404
01:04:02,099 --> 01:04:04,500
94 000 square feet is just part of their

1405
01:04:04,500 --> 01:04:07,799
there are already existing operations

1406
01:04:07,799 --> 01:04:10,079
but if they grow to that 200 000 square

1407
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:11,880
feet that they anticipate growing to

1408
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,520
that would be a total of 50 50 to 60 new

1409
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:15,680
jobs

1410
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,660
and would also continue to grow as far

1411
01:04:18,660 --> 01:04:20,520
as their their partnership with the

1412
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:21,720
University

1413
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,140
I also see that they are they're very

1414
01:04:25,140 --> 01:04:29,220
responsible company run by a father and

1415
01:04:29,220 --> 01:04:32,579
now his daughter both ND grads they

1416
01:04:32,579 --> 01:04:34,619
enjoy South Bend so I would not see this

1417
01:04:34,619 --> 01:04:36,180
as being the last of their investment

1418
01:04:36,180 --> 01:04:38,700
here but but the first

1419
01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:40,440
thank you

1420
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,619
anyone else I just have comments when at

1421
01:04:43,619 --> 01:04:46,980
times around thank you right now then I

1422
01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:49,500
will uh

1423
01:04:49,500 --> 01:04:51,900
we won't go to the public hearing

1424
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:54,240
portion uh Clark Jones is there anyone

1425
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,440
from the public wishing to speak in

1426
01:04:55,440 --> 01:05:00,470
favor of Bill 79-22

1427
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,819
virtual public that expresses interest

1428
01:05:02,819 --> 01:05:06,660
to speak in favor of Bill 7922

1429
01:05:06,660 --> 01:05:08,760
is there any one wishing to speak in

1430
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:09,780
opposition

1431
01:05:09,780 --> 01:05:12,299
there's no one

1432
01:05:12,299 --> 01:05:15,059
interested speaking opposition as well

1433
01:05:15,059 --> 01:05:17,359
at this point the public hearing on bill

1434
01:05:17,359 --> 01:05:20,099
79-22 is now closed

1435
01:05:20,099 --> 01:05:22,559
uh now we will go to statements from the

1436
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:30,710
council members

1437
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:31,920
I'll just waiting for the chair to

1438
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,359
recognize me okay

1439
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:34,859
okay I was waiting for you to think

1440
01:05:34,859 --> 01:05:38,280
about me to jump in now go ahead okay

1441
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,140
um I was just going to say thank you for

1442
01:05:40,140 --> 01:05:42,240
your presentation

1443
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,400
tell you the investors thank you for

1444
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,799
investing in South Bend I just only wish

1445
01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:49,619
100 years ago that we had the same type

1446
01:05:49,619 --> 01:05:51,839
of like laws on the books and

1447
01:05:51,839 --> 01:05:53,880
enforcement I wouldn't have the back

1448
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,440
slate issue going on in the second

1449
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,359
district with a hill that is full of

1450
01:05:57,359 --> 01:05:59,940
trash that we want to say it's not and

1451
01:05:59,940 --> 01:06:02,819
so I I really think

1452
01:06:02,819 --> 01:06:04,740
God that we do have those sorts of

1453
01:06:04,740 --> 01:06:06,359
restrictions so we don't have to revisit

1454
01:06:06,359 --> 01:06:09,780
that as well you have that so much and

1455
01:06:09,780 --> 01:06:11,520
so many other communities you have been

1456
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,700
in Harbor Water Crisis restrictions are

1457
01:06:14,700 --> 01:06:17,280
set by the EPA when it comes to what you

1458
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,619
guys are talking about and again thank

1459
01:06:19,619 --> 01:06:21,480
you for the presentation and I feel safe

1460
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:22,859
and comfortable because obviously

1461
01:06:22,859 --> 01:06:25,380
there's somebody enforcing the law then

1462
01:06:25,380 --> 01:06:28,020
we had to deal with it and you know go

1463
01:06:28,020 --> 01:06:31,260
on for for decades as it relates to

1464
01:06:31,260 --> 01:06:33,299
People's Health and Wellness in that

1465
01:06:33,299 --> 01:06:34,799
area

1466
01:06:34,799 --> 01:06:38,460
all right any other council members

1467
01:06:38,460 --> 01:06:40,680
I would just like to say thank you as as

1468
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,539
a representative of First District thank

1469
01:06:42,539 --> 01:06:45,000
you for the investment in the first

1470
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,619
district and we're looking forward to

1471
01:06:46,619 --> 01:06:49,020
those 50 to 60 new jobs and and

1472
01:06:49,020 --> 01:06:51,180
everything is spending and and and

1473
01:06:51,180 --> 01:06:53,280
things going well so thank you again

1474
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,079
thank you and I know my clients are

1475
01:06:55,079 --> 01:06:57,000
online listening so I'm sure they

1476
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,770
appreciate that as well

1477
01:07:00,780 --> 01:07:02,520
all right I will now entertain a motion

1478
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,520
regarding bill 79-22

1479
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:06,960
the full council with favorable

1480
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,400
recognition second

1481
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,039
all right there's been a motion and a

1482
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:11,760
second

1483
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,220
uh Clark Jones please call the world

1484
01:07:14,220 --> 01:07:16,740
councilmember White

1485
01:07:16,740 --> 01:07:19,020
council member Thomas Morgan

1486
01:07:19,020 --> 01:07:21,240
aye councilmember Hammond I vice

1487
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:22,859
president

1488
01:07:22,859 --> 01:07:24,960
aye council member Davis

1489
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,880
aye council member Lee

1490
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,400
aye council member Warner aye council

1491
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,700
member wax aye president McBride

1492
01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:34,380
aye nine eyes

1493
01:07:34,380 --> 01:07:36,299
all right

1494
01:07:36,299 --> 01:07:37,039
um

1495
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:39,240
79-22 will be sent to the full council

1496
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,819
with a favorable recommendation I will

1497
01:07:41,819 --> 01:07:44,220
now entertain a motion to rise from the

1498
01:07:44,220 --> 01:07:45,539
committee of the whole and report back

1499
01:07:45,539 --> 01:07:48,480
to the full Council SoMo all right it's

1500
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,640
been moved in second can we do it by

1501
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,579
acclimation yes all that some favors say

1502
01:07:53,579 --> 01:07:56,900
aye aye all that opposed

1503
01:07:56,900 --> 01:08:10,309
all right motion passes

1504
01:08:10,319 --> 01:08:12,720
we're now on bills on third reading

1505
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,400
this portion of our meeting is where

1506
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:15,839
bills are given a third reading and

1507
01:08:15,839 --> 01:08:17,400
action is taken regarding bills that

1508
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:18,600
were heard during the committee as a

1509
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,660
whole Carter Jones will you give Bill

1510
01:08:20,660 --> 01:08:23,359
63-22 a third read

1511
01:08:23,359 --> 01:08:26,219
63-22 third reading on an ordinance of

1512
01:08:26,219 --> 01:08:27,839
the common Council the city of South

1513
01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:30,540
Bend Indiana and next thing to and

1514
01:08:30,540 --> 01:08:32,339
bringing within the city limits of South

1515
01:08:32,339 --> 01:08:34,799
Bend Indiana and amending the zoning

1516
01:08:34,799 --> 01:08:36,719
ordinance for property located in German

1517
01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:40,140
Township continued contiguous there with

1518
01:08:40,140 --> 01:08:43,520
councilman and District number one for

1519
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,880
21275 Cleveland Road South Bend Indiana

1520
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,580
thank you counselor Lee is their

1521
01:08:50,580 --> 01:08:51,779
recommendation for the from the

1522
01:08:51,779 --> 01:08:54,299
committee of the whole yes

1523
01:08:54,299 --> 01:08:57,660
um Bill 63-22 comes to the full

1524
01:08:57,660 --> 01:08:59,880
Constable the favorable recommendation

1525
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:01,679
thank you I will now entertain a motion

1526
01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:13,550
regarding bill 63-22

1527
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,359
the role please

1528
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:18,960
council member Thomas Morgan

1529
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,420
council member Hammond aye vice

1530
01:09:21,420 --> 01:09:23,040
president

1531
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,199
aye councilmember Davis

1532
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:27,120
aye council member Lee

1533
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,640
aye council member Warner aye council

1534
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:30,839
member wax

1535
01:09:30,839 --> 01:09:32,819
aye council member white

1536
01:09:32,819 --> 01:09:38,150
aye president McBride aye nine eyes

1537
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,420
bill 63-22 has been adopted

1538
01:09:42,420 --> 01:09:44,960
Clark Jones will you please give Bill

1539
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,259
69-22 a third reading

1540
01:09:48,259 --> 01:09:51,299
69-22 third reading when an ordinance of

1541
01:09:51,299 --> 01:09:52,920
the common Council of the city of South

1542
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,679
Bend Indiana approving a petition of The

1543
01:09:55,679 --> 01:09:58,440
Advisory Board of zoning appeals for the

1544
01:09:58,440 --> 01:10:01,699
property located at 1405 Portage Avenue

1545
01:10:01,699 --> 01:10:04,020
councilmanic District number one in the

1546
01:10:04,020 --> 01:10:06,420
city of South Bend Indiana

1547
01:10:06,420 --> 01:10:09,719
thank you I will now like to counselor

1548
01:10:09,719 --> 01:10:11,460
Lee is their recommendation for the

1549
01:10:11,460 --> 01:10:13,280
committee as a whole regarding Bill

1550
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:17,880
69-22 comes to the full council with the

1551
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,800
unfavorable recommendation

1552
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,719
I will now entertain a motion regarding

1553
01:10:21,719 --> 01:10:25,310
Bill 6922

1554
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,860
make a motion to reject bill 69-22

1555
01:10:28,860 --> 01:10:29,880
second

1556
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,860
it has been moved and seconded Clark

1557
01:10:31,860 --> 01:10:34,199
Jones the role please

1558
01:10:34,199 --> 01:10:36,900
council member Hammond

1559
01:10:36,900 --> 01:10:37,560
aye

1560
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,080
vice president

1561
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:40,739
aye

1562
01:10:40,739 --> 01:10:43,679
council member Davis nay

1563
01:10:43,679 --> 01:10:45,420
council member Lee

1564
01:10:45,420 --> 01:10:46,199
aye

1565
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:48,060
council member Warner

1566
01:10:48,060 --> 01:10:48,780
aye

1567
01:10:48,780 --> 01:10:52,080
council member wax nay

1568
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:53,699
councilmember white

1569
01:10:53,699 --> 01:10:54,900
aye

1570
01:10:54,900 --> 01:10:57,060
council member Thomas Morgan

1571
01:10:57,060 --> 01:10:57,780
aye

1572
01:10:57,780 --> 01:11:02,270
president McBride nay

1573
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:06,360
six eyes and three Nays

1574
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,659
bill is 69-22

1575
01:11:08,659 --> 01:11:11,460
was rejected

1576
01:11:11,460 --> 01:11:12,780
foreign

1577
01:11:12,780 --> 01:11:16,320
Jones will you give Bill 74-22 a third

1578
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,410
reading

1579
01:11:20,420 --> 01:11:23,340
74-22 third reading on an ordinance of

1580
01:11:23,340 --> 01:11:24,840
the common Council of the city of South

1581
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,179
Bend Indiana amending the zoning

1582
01:11:27,179 --> 01:11:29,640
coordinates for property located at 505

1583
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:34,140
Ireland Road 4412 fellow street and 4422

1584
01:11:34,140 --> 01:11:36,179
fellow street councilmanic District

1585
01:11:36,179 --> 01:11:38,400
number five in the city of South Bend

1586
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,480
Indiana

1587
01:11:39,480 --> 01:11:41,460
thank you

1588
01:11:41,460 --> 01:11:43,699
counselor Lee is there a recommendation

1589
01:11:43,699 --> 01:11:48,729
for Bill number 74-22

1590
01:11:48,739 --> 01:11:53,040
71-22 I thought it had been

1591
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,159
um oh I'm sorry yes it comes to the full

1592
01:11:56,159 --> 01:11:57,480
Council of favorable recommendation

1593
01:11:57,480 --> 01:12:00,300
thank you I would now entertain a motion

1594
01:12:00,300 --> 01:12:02,820
regarding Bill 7422

1595
01:12:02,820 --> 01:12:05,640
I move for Passage second it's been

1596
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,620
moved and seconded clerk Jones the role

1597
01:12:07,620 --> 01:12:08,699
please

1598
01:12:08,699 --> 01:12:11,580
vice president naskowski aye

1599
01:12:11,580 --> 01:12:14,930
council member Davis

1600
01:12:14,940 --> 01:12:15,540
aye

1601
01:12:15,540 --> 01:12:17,400
council member Lee

1602
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,620
aye councilmember Warner

1603
01:12:19,620 --> 01:12:22,080
aye council member wax

1604
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,239
aye councilmember white

1605
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:27,360
aye council member Thomas Morgan aye

1606
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,460
councilmember Hammond

1607
01:12:29,460 --> 01:12:30,179
aye

1608
01:12:30,179 --> 01:12:34,080
president McBride aye nine eyes

1609
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,420
thank you Bill number 7422 has been

1610
01:12:36,420 --> 01:12:38,100
adopted

1611
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:40,260
Clark Jones will you please give bill

1612
01:12:40,260 --> 01:12:44,179
number 79-22 a third reading

1613
01:12:44,179 --> 01:12:46,980
79-22 third reading on an ordinance of

1614
01:12:46,980 --> 01:12:48,540
the common Council the city of South

1615
01:12:48,540 --> 01:12:49,739
Bend Indiana

1616
01:12:49,739 --> 01:12:51,780
approving a petition of The Advisory

1617
01:12:51,780 --> 01:12:53,640
Board of zoning appeals for property

1618
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:58,020
located at 7468 and 7686 boarding

1619
01:12:58,020 --> 01:13:00,420
Parkway councilman District number one

1620
01:13:00,420 --> 01:13:03,000
in the city of South Bend Indiana

1621
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,159
thank you I will now entertain a motion

1622
01:13:05,159 --> 01:13:09,250
regarding bill 79-22

1623
01:13:09,260 --> 01:13:11,880
second it has been moved and seconded

1624
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,659
Clark Jones the role please

1625
01:13:14,659 --> 01:13:16,920
council member Davis

1626
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,320
uh council member Lee

1627
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,060
aye council member Warner

1628
01:13:21,060 --> 01:13:23,040
aye council member wax

1629
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,780
aye council member white

1630
01:13:24,780 --> 01:13:27,179
aye council member Thomas Morgan

1631
01:13:27,179 --> 01:13:29,820
aye councilmember Hammond

1632
01:13:29,820 --> 01:13:32,400
aye vice president

1633
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,140
aye president McBride

1634
01:13:34,140 --> 01:13:38,580
aye nine eyes thank you Bill 79 22 has

1635
01:13:38,580 --> 01:13:40,260
been adopted

1636
01:13:40,260 --> 01:13:42,420
there are no resolutions on tonight's

1637
01:13:42,420 --> 01:13:43,920
agenda

1638
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,920
there are also no first readings on

1639
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,440
tonight's agenda at this time I want to

1640
01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:54,950
open it up for unfinished business

1641
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,699
if there are none I want to open it up

1642
01:13:56,699 --> 01:14:00,310
for new business

1643
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,649
ladies first

1644
01:14:03,659 --> 01:14:07,080
goski thank you president McBride

1645
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:07,980
um

1646
01:14:07,980 --> 01:14:09,360
I just wanted to make sure everybody

1647
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,580
knew that before March 1st for citizen

1648
01:14:11,580 --> 01:14:14,760
numbers to apply to the council website

1649
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,980
or contact the clerk's office if you

1650
01:14:16,980 --> 01:14:19,140
want to be a citizen member on one of

1651
01:14:19,140 --> 01:14:21,600
the standing committees

1652
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:22,199
um

1653
01:14:22,199 --> 01:14:25,980
and also there is the Martin Luther King

1654
01:14:25,980 --> 01:14:28,620
breakfast that's going to be at 7 30 a.m

1655
01:14:28,620 --> 01:14:31,500
on January the 16th as well as the rest

1656
01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:33,000
of a day of different

1657
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,760
um meetings that they'll be hosting

1658
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,500
also the one last thing I want to talk

1659
01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:40,340
about is Lawrence Greenspan with the

1660
01:14:40,340 --> 01:14:44,159
2045 plan has reached out their

1661
01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:46,320
engagement process is going to be ending

1662
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,560
on March 31st

1663
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,480
so if any of the council members in

1664
01:14:51,480 --> 01:14:53,159
their respective districts that would

1665
01:14:53,159 --> 01:14:54,719
still like to plan something for

1666
01:14:54,719 --> 01:14:57,540
engagement you have until that time so

1667
01:14:57,540 --> 01:14:59,219
it's fast approaching if you'd like to

1668
01:14:59,219 --> 01:15:01,500
plan something please reach out to Mr

1669
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:03,420
Greenspan

1670
01:15:03,420 --> 01:15:06,420
thank you counselor Davis yes ma'am

1671
01:15:06,420 --> 01:15:08,699
thank you so much for recognizing me I

1672
01:15:08,699 --> 01:15:11,340
am I'll give me a couple moments

1673
01:15:11,340 --> 01:15:13,260
um 2005

1674
01:15:13,260 --> 01:15:16,199
um I had to campaign to become a priest

1675
01:15:16,199 --> 01:15:19,320
and committee chairman that job itself

1676
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,900
um usually was given away by the

1677
01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:23,580
chairman of the party at that time um

1678
01:15:23,580 --> 01:15:26,760
and rest in peace Bush Morgan seriously

1679
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,120
um we um understood the only way that

1680
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:31,679
you can get into the party was through

1681
01:15:31,679 --> 01:15:34,260
that blessing well I successfully

1682
01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:37,260
campaigned for that job and subsequently

1683
01:15:37,260 --> 01:15:40,280
I was elected in 2005.

1684
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,900
2007-2008 year I campaigned and I ran

1685
01:15:42,900 --> 01:15:44,520
for councilman of the city of South Bend

1686
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,980
Second District

1687
01:15:46,980 --> 01:15:48,420
um

1688
01:15:48,420 --> 01:15:51,420
thank God I got him

1689
01:15:51,420 --> 01:15:54,780
from that point on I began to work to

1690
01:15:54,780 --> 01:15:56,580
establish

1691
01:15:56,580 --> 01:15:59,460
some sort of congruency

1692
01:15:59,460 --> 01:16:04,620
advocacy and also support in a number of

1693
01:16:04,620 --> 01:16:06,360
different ways for the the district

1694
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:07,920
itself

1695
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,219
within that time frame I had

1696
01:16:11,219 --> 01:16:13,080
um probably caused a lot of problems and

1697
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,840
and got a lot of things resolved and it

1698
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,420
was just really difficult and funky but

1699
01:16:18,420 --> 01:16:20,040
as a part of the learning process as it

1700
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,140
relates to this job

1701
01:16:22,140 --> 01:16:25,080
as we move forward time has gone going

1702
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,350
on

1703
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,739
um as a result of that advocacy after

1704
01:16:30,739 --> 01:16:33,360
the the the some of the pains and bumps

1705
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,520
and bruises I've received we started to

1706
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,040
see development in the second district

1707
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,140
the development started to see obviously

1708
01:16:40,140 --> 01:16:43,140
came from the city so that had a lot to

1709
01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:44,520
do with not with private investment but

1710
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,159
it's public investment but I take it

1711
01:16:47,159 --> 01:16:49,380
did a very good job I'm patting myself

1712
01:16:49,380 --> 01:16:51,199
on the back on a number of these things

1713
01:16:51,199 --> 01:16:53,580
one thing and I don't want to belar the

1714
01:16:53,580 --> 01:16:55,320
point so I'm going to go to it really

1715
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,320
quick LaSalle Center receives a four and

1716
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,320
a half million dollar investment

1717
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,480
deserved it right the building was

1718
01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:06,420
remodeled refurbished everyone's happy

1719
01:17:06,420 --> 01:17:08,640
in the community because we finally got

1720
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,860
what we're looking for

1721
01:17:10,860 --> 01:17:13,020
um to get some more things passed as a

1722
01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:14,580
matter of fact councilmember white

1723
01:17:14,580 --> 01:17:17,040
helped out with this one co-sponsored we

1724
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,199
got some monies invested over into the

1725
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:21,000
Lincolnway race Corridor and Western

1726
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,340
Avenue Corridor during that time that

1727
01:17:23,340 --> 01:17:25,380
money has been used to not only change

1728
01:17:25,380 --> 01:17:28,260
the way Western Avenue Rush Nevada would

1729
01:17:28,260 --> 01:17:30,719
be Hayes but also looks then you really

1730
01:17:30,719 --> 01:17:33,239
get you got the idea of what facade

1731
01:17:33,239 --> 01:17:35,100
Brands can do in a particular area

1732
01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:37,679
because now that those few blocks they

1733
01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:39,719
look really good that's how we got

1734
01:17:39,719 --> 01:17:41,219
investment in that area that's how we

1735
01:17:41,219 --> 01:17:42,780
got people to really believe in that

1736
01:17:42,780 --> 01:17:44,040
area again

1737
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:49,020
and then as I fast forward to 2023

1738
01:17:49,020 --> 01:17:51,840
we're looking forward to the expansion

1739
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,800
excuse me the demolition

1740
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,320
and the groundbreaking

1741
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,840
and now the rebuilding of a Martin

1742
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,060
Luther King Jr recreational sandwiches

1743
01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:04,140
Journey Center

1744
01:18:04,140 --> 01:18:06,179
we don't get that without all of the

1745
01:18:06,179 --> 01:18:09,060
years of Labor that I put in for the

1746
01:18:09,060 --> 01:18:11,699
second district we've been able to look

1747
01:18:11,699 --> 01:18:13,679
and realize a new neighborhood plan for

1748
01:18:13,679 --> 01:18:14,820
that area

1749
01:18:14,820 --> 01:18:17,640
right we we we're looking at residents

1750
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,500
who are engaged at a higher level

1751
01:18:19,500 --> 01:18:22,020
because of the work and the labor that

1752
01:18:22,020 --> 01:18:24,659
has been put in to making sure that the

1753
01:18:24,659 --> 01:18:26,580
residents in that direct area receive

1754
01:18:26,580 --> 01:18:29,760
the support that they uh deserve and

1755
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,760
this vessel that's talking was a very

1756
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:34,739
important piece to that

1757
01:18:34,739 --> 01:18:37,080
now as we are moving towards the

1758
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,250
official groundbreaking

1759
01:18:40,260 --> 01:18:43,219
we're looking at an opportunity where

1760
01:18:43,219 --> 01:18:46,320
the council member for that area

1761
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,800
that has labored labored and labor for

1762
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,179
that particular area

1763
01:18:51,179 --> 01:18:54,960
not being able even to allow to speak

1764
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,260
during the course of that ceremony

1765
01:18:58,260 --> 01:19:01,140
I call foul on that

1766
01:19:01,140 --> 01:19:03,780
and I call that to be one of the most

1767
01:19:03,780 --> 01:19:06,420
disrespectful moves by the current

1768
01:19:06,420 --> 01:19:08,760
Administration on whoever participated

1769
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,340
with him on designing

1770
01:19:11,340 --> 01:19:14,219
an agenda that does not include the

1771
01:19:14,219 --> 01:19:18,770
representative for that area

1772
01:19:18,780 --> 01:19:23,640
how do you disregard the work

1773
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,159
that a person has put in to a particular

1774
01:19:26,159 --> 01:19:27,960
area

1775
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,760
I don't know

1776
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:33,000
but to whoever is listening upstairs

1777
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,640
outside over the Airways or even sitting

1778
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,380
here with the council

1779
01:19:37,380 --> 01:19:39,480
you may want to revisit

1780
01:19:39,480 --> 01:19:40,980
that thought

1781
01:19:40,980 --> 01:19:43,560
and you may also want to figure out how

1782
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,900
to make sure that the people of that

1783
01:19:45,900 --> 01:19:48,840
community in particular get what they

1784
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,140
deserve and that's me because I put the

1785
01:19:52,140 --> 01:19:54,480
work in to ensure to make sure that that

1786
01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:57,960
area was taken care of nobody else

1787
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,080
Against All Odds it got done

1788
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,480
I think Mr Aaron Perry for his foresight

1789
01:20:03,480 --> 01:20:05,699
and ensuring that the center could be

1790
01:20:05,699 --> 01:20:07,860
built all of the things that have taken

1791
01:20:07,860 --> 01:20:11,460
place like I said since 2005.

1792
01:20:11,460 --> 01:20:15,239
that's my work 18 years and I deserve to

1793
01:20:15,239 --> 01:20:17,040
be at the microphone when it's time for

1794
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:22,250
it to be ground broken thank you

1795
01:20:22,260 --> 01:20:24,420
thank you anyone else

1796
01:20:24,420 --> 01:20:26,580
I would just like to give a brief update

1797
01:20:26,580 --> 01:20:29,460
that hopefully the next month or so the

1798
01:20:29,460 --> 01:20:31,520
council will receive an update on

1799
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,560
environmental concerns or issues and

1800
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,360
discussions that have been ongoing

1801
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:42,239
involving not only the administration

1802
01:20:42,239 --> 01:20:47,219
but also heads hats off to the St Joseph

1803
01:20:47,219 --> 01:20:49,980
Health Department as well as the

1804
01:20:49,980 --> 01:20:52,860
leadership of the County council at that

1805
01:20:52,860 --> 01:20:55,560
time I think that once that presentation

1806
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,679
comes before the council it really shows

1807
01:20:58,679 --> 01:21:01,679
the results when all entities come

1808
01:21:01,679 --> 01:21:04,140
together we can get the job done so I

1809
01:21:04,140 --> 01:21:06,239
look forward to that update hopefully in

1810
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:09,169
the next month or so

1811
01:21:09,179 --> 01:21:12,970
thank you anyone else

1812
01:21:12,980 --> 01:21:15,960
I would just like to say that uh as we

1813
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:17,760
are in

1814
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,940
barking on the New Year it's 2023.

1815
01:21:20,940 --> 01:21:25,199
that we all can work together

1816
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:28,500
for the benefit of our community

1817
01:21:28,500 --> 01:21:29,219
um

1818
01:21:29,219 --> 01:21:31,980
and that we're able to

1819
01:21:31,980 --> 01:21:32,640
um

1820
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,360
put differences aside and and look for

1821
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,940
common ground to be able to

1822
01:21:38,940 --> 01:21:41,219
do what we've been elected to do

1823
01:21:41,219 --> 01:21:43,560
and that's to represent our community

1824
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:47,060
and to make South Bend a better place

1825
01:21:47,060 --> 01:21:50,520
all of us have great ideals

1826
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,300
all of us have great energy

1827
01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:55,739
um

1828
01:21:55,739 --> 01:22:00,420
and if we can work together

1829
01:22:00,420 --> 01:22:02,280
we can

1830
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:06,110
put differences aside

1831
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,360
it will help our city benefit better so

1832
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,760
I'm just asking as we're going to 2023

1833
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,580
that that we would all just take a

1834
01:22:14,580 --> 01:22:16,920
moment and focus on serving our

1835
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,980
community and trying to make South Bend

1836
01:22:19,980 --> 01:22:21,960
a better place to live our kids are

1837
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:23,340
watching

1838
01:22:23,340 --> 01:22:25,560
and

1839
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,480
we want to be a great example to our

1840
01:22:27,480 --> 01:22:28,440
children

1841
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:29,880
so

1842
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,260
thank you

1843
01:22:31,260 --> 01:22:33,170
anyone else

1844
01:22:33,170 --> 01:22:36,179
[Music]

1845
01:22:36,179 --> 01:22:38,219
counselor Thomas Morgan

1846
01:22:38,219 --> 01:22:41,460
um I just want to say I uh

1847
01:22:41,460 --> 01:22:44,239
Mr Davis I'm not really sure

1848
01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:47,360
why you made your statements in in this

1849
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,760
particular form right now but we all

1850
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,580
know that we're a lot coming into a

1851
01:22:53,580 --> 01:22:55,620
campaign season

1852
01:22:55,620 --> 01:22:57,900
um it appears that we need to have a

1853
01:22:57,900 --> 01:23:01,380
discussion among the council how we use

1854
01:23:01,380 --> 01:23:04,679
this time in the council meeting I do

1855
01:23:04,679 --> 01:23:07,260
not I personally do not believe that

1856
01:23:07,260 --> 01:23:10,320
this is a time for anybody any of us to

1857
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,900
be making campaign stem speeches thank

1858
01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:13,940
you

1859
01:23:13,940 --> 01:23:16,980
my assertion to you and his counsel was

1860
01:23:16,980 --> 01:23:19,080
about me not being included and on the

1861
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:20,880
council business

1862
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,679
it has everything to do with City

1863
01:23:22,679 --> 01:23:24,600
business it has nothing to do with the

1864
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,179
campaign commitment I just talked about

1865
01:23:27,179 --> 01:23:29,820
the level and amount of time spent

1866
01:23:29,820 --> 01:23:32,640
getting that community over there called

1867
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,239
candy Park organized not only with the

1868
01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:37,920
neighborhood association but leadership

1869
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:39,840
for the neighborhood association so we

1870
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,520
can go about the business of development

1871
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,560
in that area I don't know how that turns

1872
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:45,900
into a campaign the slogan but I'm going

1873
01:23:45,900 --> 01:23:47,940
to tell you what 18 years are spent

1874
01:23:47,940 --> 01:23:50,699
doing this I'm proud of my work

1875
01:23:50,699 --> 01:23:55,370
I'm sorry that you don't understand it

1876
01:23:55,380 --> 01:23:58,679
thank you with that I will move to the

1877
01:23:58,679 --> 01:24:00,659
privilege of the floor

1878
01:24:00,659 --> 01:24:01,980
um

1879
01:24:01,980 --> 01:24:07,250
Clark Jones well is there anyone I see

1880
01:24:07,260 --> 01:24:09,239
thank you if you please state your name

1881
01:24:09,239 --> 01:24:11,460
and address you know the routine

1882
01:24:11,460 --> 01:24:13,980
happy New Year happy New Year Sharon

1883
01:24:13,980 --> 01:24:17,040
Nikki 3822 Ford Street

1884
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:18,659
you guys aren't going to like some of

1885
01:24:18,659 --> 01:24:20,580
what I've got to say but it's got to be

1886
01:24:20,580 --> 01:24:21,480
said

1887
01:24:21,480 --> 01:24:23,699
seventeen thousand dollars was spent

1888
01:24:23,699 --> 01:24:25,440
between the month of November and

1889
01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:28,020
December to pay the clerk and another

1890
01:24:28,020 --> 01:24:31,560
person and still no meeting minutes that

1891
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,580
is be Beyond obscene I was here when

1892
01:24:35,580 --> 01:24:38,159
John vorte was clerk I complained about

1893
01:24:38,159 --> 01:24:40,620
the meeting minutes not being timely I

1894
01:24:40,620 --> 01:24:42,900
was here when Karima was clerk I

1895
01:24:42,900 --> 01:24:44,520
complained about the meetings not being

1896
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,739
timely the fact that we don't have any

1897
01:24:46,739 --> 01:24:48,900
meeting minutes since September and

1898
01:24:48,900 --> 01:24:51,300
they're still being rejected shame on

1899
01:24:51,300 --> 01:24:54,780
all of you every one of you you're a

1900
01:24:54,780 --> 01:24:57,179
grown adult put your egos at the door

1901
01:24:57,179 --> 01:24:59,400
and put your hands together and get this

1902
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,159
solved get this over with get these

1903
01:25:02,159 --> 01:25:04,739
meeting minutes online the city doesn't

1904
01:25:04,739 --> 01:25:07,800
have money for lawsuits because egos

1905
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,320
can't be checked

1906
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,780
I've run into a couple of you here and

1907
01:25:12,780 --> 01:25:14,900
there and we've had

1908
01:25:14,900 --> 01:25:18,120
conversations Mr Lee stop me and he says

1909
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:19,739
how do you like your new line on Chicago

1910
01:25:19,739 --> 01:25:21,420
Street

1911
01:25:21,420 --> 01:25:24,719
I never got my new light

1912
01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:27,659
how's the shootings are they down no

1913
01:25:27,659 --> 01:25:30,179
everybody knows Derek Dieter does video

1914
01:25:30,179 --> 01:25:32,940
on New Year's Eve if I wasn't in my

1915
01:25:32,940 --> 01:25:35,340
bedroom protecting my grandson I could

1916
01:25:35,340 --> 01:25:37,320
have done a video out my front door that

1917
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,659
would have rivaled Derek deters only

1918
01:25:39,659 --> 01:25:41,520
instead of being a couple blocks this

1919
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,920
way or that way they were in my backyard

1920
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,560
they were next to me they were across

1921
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,840
the street from me so no things are not

1922
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,239
getting better over there I was asked

1923
01:25:51,239 --> 01:25:53,340
how I felt about that press conference

1924
01:25:53,340 --> 01:25:55,560
that happened in front of my house

1925
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,179
across the street

1926
01:25:57,179 --> 01:25:59,159
that press conference didn't do anything

1927
01:25:59,159 --> 01:26:02,400
but highlight how bad it is we live it

1928
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,679
we know how bad it is

1929
01:26:04,679 --> 01:26:07,440
nobody except for one person after that

1930
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:09,659
press conference walked door to door to

1931
01:26:09,659 --> 01:26:12,300
talk to the neighbors you show up you

1932
01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:14,580
tell us how bad it is you get back in

1933
01:26:14,580 --> 01:26:17,040
your vehicles and you drive away and

1934
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,860
we're still living this nightmare

1935
01:26:19,860 --> 01:26:22,199
come do your press conference but bring

1936
01:26:22,199 --> 01:26:23,940
suggestions say hey we're going to try

1937
01:26:23,940 --> 01:26:26,639
this or what do you think about that no

1938
01:26:26,639 --> 01:26:29,580
it was hey I can't believe how many guns

1939
01:26:29,580 --> 01:26:30,900
have been fired over here I can't

1940
01:26:30,900 --> 01:26:32,699
believe how many shootings

1941
01:26:32,699 --> 01:26:35,639
I believe it I live it daily I live it

1942
01:26:35,639 --> 01:26:38,460
nightly my grandson didn't come over for

1943
01:26:38,460 --> 01:26:40,739
months at a time because his parents

1944
01:26:40,739 --> 01:26:43,139
didn't trust him in my house

1945
01:26:43,139 --> 01:26:45,179
and then I bring him over New Year's Eve

1946
01:26:45,179 --> 01:26:47,040
and I've got the neighbors next to me

1947
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,139
and across the street from me and these

1948
01:26:49,139 --> 01:26:51,840
aren't just little guns

1949
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:52,679
um

1950
01:26:52,679 --> 01:26:55,980
the night I saw you Mr Lee that weekend

1951
01:26:55,980 --> 01:26:58,679
prior the police officers heard the guns

1952
01:26:58,679 --> 01:27:00,840
going they called it in before shot

1953
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,480
spotter did High Velocity rapid fire

1954
01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:06,420
gunshots so these aren't little guns

1955
01:27:06,420 --> 01:27:07,800
they're playing with

1956
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,320
we need Solutions we don't need press

1957
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,540
conferences we don't need dog and pony

1958
01:27:12,540 --> 01:27:15,659
shows we need answers we need people to

1959
01:27:15,659 --> 01:27:17,520
come and talk to us I know my neighbors

1960
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,040
are working with the police because the

1961
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,080
police tell me that there's been

1962
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:23,639
shootings they come back to my house

1963
01:27:23,639 --> 01:27:26,580
asking for my video I look through my

1964
01:27:26,580 --> 01:27:29,159
camera if I've got it it's theirs if I

1965
01:27:29,159 --> 01:27:31,500
don't I can't give it to them I go knock

1966
01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:33,540
on my neighbor's doors hey there was

1967
01:27:33,540 --> 01:27:35,420
another shooting do you have any video

1968
01:27:35,420 --> 01:27:38,219
yes they do or no they don't and it gets

1969
01:27:38,219 --> 01:27:41,280
turned over but we need more help the

1970
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,679
police department has hired and hiring

1971
01:27:43,679 --> 01:27:46,020
and they need to keep hiring we need

1972
01:27:46,020 --> 01:27:49,020
these specialty units back we need a

1973
01:27:49,020 --> 01:27:52,320
gang unit we need a drug unit during the

1974
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,179
recent blizzard when weather was

1975
01:27:54,179 --> 01:27:57,060
terrible everybody stayed home except

1976
01:27:57,060 --> 01:27:59,340
for my drug house they still did

1977
01:27:59,340 --> 01:28:02,280
business as usual because they're a drag

1978
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,260
house and they knew the roads would

1979
01:28:04,260 --> 01:28:05,699
nobody else was going to be on the roads

1980
01:28:05,699 --> 01:28:07,380
but they had traffic coming and going

1981
01:28:07,380 --> 01:28:09,480
and everybody in the neighborhood knows

1982
01:28:09,480 --> 01:28:10,800
they're a drug house

1983
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,679
but what's happening with it

1984
01:28:13,679 --> 01:28:15,960
I don't know maybe it'll get raided

1985
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,639
maybe it won't

1986
01:28:17,639 --> 01:28:19,080
time man

1987
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,540
thank you thank you so much for your

1988
01:28:21,540 --> 01:28:23,880
comment is there anyone else in the

1989
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,920
audience I would like to speak for a

1990
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,729
purpose of the floor

1991
01:28:28,739 --> 01:28:31,800
if not clerk Jones will you please is

1992
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:35,810
there anyone in the virtual audience

1993
01:28:35,820 --> 01:28:37,800
there's no one in a virtual audience

1994
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,080
that is expressing interest to speak on

1995
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,659
privilege of the floor thank you so much

1996
01:28:42,659 --> 01:29:20,030
with that this meeting is adjourned

1997
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:52,550
foreign

1998
01:29:52,560 --> 01:30:29,629
you ready

1999
01:30:29,639 --> 01:30:31,820
so