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on Monday May 8th common council meeting
to order Park Jones I believe you would

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like to make some comments regarding the
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your remarks thank you thank you at this
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amount of Missionary Baptist Church come
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welcome Reverend Brown

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this way by the way

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it's not quite like Sunday morning huh

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Eternal God our Father we thank you for
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given us and these that are gathered
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South Bend we pray Lord that you have
bless them strengthen their minds their

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hearts and their souls and the spirits
of God give them what they need to do in

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the way you would have them to do it for
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Strife for vain Glory but alone in the
somality to see mothers better than

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themselves for this was mine that was in
Christ Jesus we pray that might fall

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upon these who are in the
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right now in the name of Jesus who is
Christ amen amen amen thank you so much

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maybe stand for the Pledge of Allegiance
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Clark Jones will you call the role
please I believe Troy Warner is um

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excused

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I know that um
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council member Lee
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council member Warner

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the council member wax present
council member white present council

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member Thomas Morgan present
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vice president
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presidents
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at this time we will go to the reports
from the city first up we will have an

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update by Andrew Berlin from the South
Bend clubs thank you so much welcome

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please state your name and address for
the record Andrew Berlin Four Winds

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Field South Bend thank you

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is there a way to advance the
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is there a clicker

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foreign
I'll tell you when to flip okay thank

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you yeah thank you very much
thank you for having me it's it's on the

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heels of some very good news that South
Bend received from Indianapolis uh the

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passage of the Senate Bill 326 that
sends 100 million dollars to South Bend

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in the form of 5 million dollars a year
for 20 years there will be a bonding

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process of course in an effort to raise
those funds earlier to do the kind of

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work that we want to do in the city but
it was fantastic news and so with that

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with those uh Tailwinds I'll uh I'll
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is this word imagine and the reason I
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moment before I get into the details and
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short even though I could wax on about
the partnership with South Bend which

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has been magnificent uh when I first
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mayor licky
the South Bend silverhawks were in

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trouble
the team was uh having difficulty I

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would say it's failing but out of
respect for our dear friend Governor

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Kernan I won't say it was quite really
failing but it was really struggling I

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was on the cusp of leaving South Bend to
go to the state of Illinois to a city in

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in Central Illinois
and so I want just for a moment if we

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can imagine what it would have been like
not to have four one's field not to have

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South Bend Cubs anchoring a significant
a part of tremendous Renaissance in

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downtown South Bend but not just South
Bend in the entire region you'll see on

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my presentation and I'll foreshadow it
but we've had 3.2 million people come to

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South Bend
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had it
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that number dramatically for the next
eight to ten years with the kind of that

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investment that the state is making an
investment that does not require us to

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increase taxes it only keeps the income
taxes the sales taxes that are paid in a

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certain part of the city from going to
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Bend so with that that fixture in your
mind what downtown looks like without

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all of this going on in our little
corner downtown let's proceed with the

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presentation to the next slide

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so today the ballpark looks pretty good
I'm here with Joe Hart the president of

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South Bend Cubs hina's team have done a
wonderful job winning all sorts of

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Awards as you might imagine Major League
Baseball when they absorb Minor League

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Baseball there used to be 160 minor
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they're a little less than 140. many of
those cities that used to have ballparks

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no longer have an Affiliated team no
longer have minor league baseball if we

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hadn't made the improvements up into
this point South Bend wouldn't have a

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baseball team either
but Joe and his team at the Southwind

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Cubs have won awards for their fields
the best field in minor league baseball

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we've won best ballpark in all of the
United States twice in 2015 2017 but

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we're not resting on our Laurels this is
not just about increasing revenues it's

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not just about having an Enterprise that
makes some money but it's really it's

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about this mission that we had to really
improve not only everything around us

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but also to drive economic development
for all of South Bend and in particular

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in our downtown Corridor where we are it
is a jewel but it's going to become even

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more special as we move forward
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it's hard to tell from this particular
aerial rendering what we're going to do

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but I'm getting into a little bit of
detail before I get into the detail

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however beef what the ballpark is going
to look like when we slip to the next

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slide I believe that's a very short two
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so it's always been more than a game
if you just make sure our volume is up a

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little too but thank you

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at the beginning of the World Series of
1947 I experienced a completely new

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emotion when the knife in Latham was
played this time I thought it would have

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been play for me
it's always been more than just a game

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80 years ago in this town
where a handful of men and women born

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here we changed everything
for Betsy Oakman and others she played

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for the southbound blue socks and Ted
strong who played for the Kansas City

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monarchs baseball
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the Studebaker alone had over a dozen
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away in the late 70s the factory teams
were mostly history

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until mayor Roger parent had an idea
that would someday lead to a Renaissance

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for South Bend
building a professional Stadium

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the team in the stadium
nurse

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by the next mayor soon to be governor
Joe Kernan ultimately found a new owner

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who not only committed to the city of
South Bend but put his own money into a

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stadium owned by the citizens of this
great City

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the Renaissance
your head took a while but when it got

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here wow

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baseball's a big deal again and the
future

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is bright the South Bend Cubs have
committed to this great City for decades

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to come and legislators like Maureen
Bauer David nescott Dickey Ryan micheler

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Jake teshka and others have paved the
way to make

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I like the city like the dramatic causes
by expanding Roger's parents original

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idea
which by the way has paid off in big big

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ways
baseball's more than just a game a lot

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more

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ask Ted strong
here's to the next several decades of

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professional baseball in the city of
South Bend and the next generation of

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professional players
here's to the city

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and the citizens of South Bend Indiana
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what's marvelous about this presentation
is especially the fact that it's a

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city-owned stadium owned by the people
of South Bend it's created a partnership

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with me and my team
for whatever we do here it stays in

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South Bend whatever we're able to
achieve in improving the ballpark we

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can't and won't take it with us the Cubs
are here to stay as long as you want

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them here as long as people come out to
the games and so it's been a success

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but we're not done so if we go to the
next slide

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you'll see some of the renderings of
what we're going to be planning here

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so for example we're going to go up a
whole nother deck above us where all the

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Suites will align from all the way from
one end of the stadium to the other

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you'll see additional seats outside the
Suites and then we'll be opening up The

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Concourse below and you'll see that in
future slides you'll also see in the

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left field corner there's going to be
party space convention space conference

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space and other clubs and amenities
where we can attract and and bring more

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corporations to downtown South Bend to
do their entertaining in our city the

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next slide please
another view this time from the left

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field Corner looking back towards the
center and you'll see what these look

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like
again another slide

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next slide
we're also going to capture some of the

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architecture of Wrigley some of the open
Iron and beams that that hold up the

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signs and the lights at Wrigley were
bringing those arches of Steel here to

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South Bend to kind of give a sense of
the connection between Four Winds field

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the South Bend Cubs and the Chicago Cubs
and if you uh remember regularly in the

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roof of Wrigley this is reminiscent of
what the roof looks like there

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is also going to be a concourse in the
left field Corner that'll have a bridge

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extending the top part of the Suites
across to the building you saw in left

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field corner and a more dramatic
entrance there in the corner of South

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Bend and it's going to have you know ivy
on the walls there's going to be a large

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Concourse and of course it'll be it'll
have a lot of brick and a lot of iron

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and just drive a more beautiful
beautiful Park

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this is what the meeting Center will
look like in left field corner

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next slide
so what we also like about the

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investment in the ballpark is it's also
attracted a number of different

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developments in downtown South Bend uh
and as you see if you know about the

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real America baseball investment I think
has attracted 60 units of housing half

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of which are aside for low-income
families we built our own four IV

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apartment buildings along the outside of
the Outfield with balconies overlooking

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the ballpark but there are a number of
people that are building more homes more

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apartments in downtown South Bend than
ever before in the last several years

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when I was here we didn't have that kind
of population growth when I first

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arrived in 2011. so I'm sure all of you
are very familiar with just the growth

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and the and how busy it is again
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another comment here you could read for
yourself I don't I want to read the

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slides to you in the essence of time
next slide

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next slide again
so a little bit about Senate bill 326.

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uh the original law for the psda was in

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2017. uh excuse me it expired in 2017-17
we passed the new law 2021 to take the

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cap up to two and a half billion excuse
me two and a half million the other

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number would have been uh would have
been better I'm sure and then we crossed

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we increased it to 5 million just
recently which is also commensurate with

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what Fort Wayne gets
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uh the revenue that we're currently
generating that the city is currently

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generating with income tax and sales tax
in the prescribed area is easily

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expected to exceed the five million
dollar Gap so it's going to ensure

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ensure a very strong bond offering which
is very good news and keep the expenses

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down on the bond
and of course it represents a hundred

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million dollars of new Revenue to the
city of South Bend if we wait the 20

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years to collect it
it's a little historical perspective

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city was built in 1987 for just a hair
less than 10 million but we rounded up

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to 10 million dollars with the work that
we have done together the city and

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ourselves we have done a very good job
in keeping the fine bones of that

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Stadium which is wonderful in the manner
which it was built I don't know if you

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were aware of this but the foundation
and the pilings that were used in

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putting the roof over the lower
Concourse the same Foundation can be

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used as we go up in another floor so
well actually it was it was actually

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built to contemplate a second level
so save us a lot of money on

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foundational work
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again something to note since 1998 no
property taxes or general funds have

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been used to improve the stadium we've
done it all on our own with you and

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there are only two unique sources have
been used to improve the stadium and

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surrounding properties again the city
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next slide
I made an investment of 32 million

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dollars in the area between around nine
million dollars in my own money I

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invested in the city-owned stadium I
know the new when I got here the city

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was not in a position to make the
investment itself so I made the

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investment for my own personal funds and
then I built the four apartment

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buildings that surround the stadium but
it was important to demonstrate to the

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city that that I was all in as well you
would be very very hard-pressed to find

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an owner at least in minor league
baseball they would have done something

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like that but when I had faith
and of course at 1.75 million it was

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earned by the team through the original
psda Law which was used to improve the

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stadium

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so as I said before we're not going
anywhere and we've decided to extend our

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agreement through the 2044 season and
it'll either be up to my sons my

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daughters or maybe another owner someday
to take it and beyond that but it I plan

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to be around for a while I'll do my very
level the best but I'd love to extend it

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even Beyond 2044.

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um as I mentioned before we've drawn
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other local amenity 3.2 million people
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that's to the ballpark
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will bring even more
so the idea is that we want to increase

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the seating capacity maybe is up to
about 50 percent

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there are so many games that we have
throughout the season that were sold out

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this will give us the opportunity to
bring more people in the more people

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that come in the more sales taxes are
collected the better it is for the city

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and the city-owned stadium
yeah so again I I you could imagine this

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would be so but not only with the
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the people that will be surrounding
South Bend and surrounding the ballpark

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it'll bring more jobs and economic
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and you'll see even more PS to CDA
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um something to keep in mind and I'll be
finishing up here in a moment Major

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League Baseball has imposed new
standards of minor for minor league

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stadiums any stadium that doesn't keep
up with the standards that Major League

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Baseball is now imposing once Major
League Baseball took over Minor League

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Baseball they lose their affiliation
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the facilities for the players for the
umpires for the coaches having amenities

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for female coaches female Empires
umpires it all has to be there or you'll

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lose your affiliation as that strict so
there are going to be needs for

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improvements and we're going to make all
of those improvements here with the next

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couple years
and we've worked hard to make sure the

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city doesn't lose the affiliation and
just so you know we're not wasting any

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time the bill was signed last Thursday
and we had our first planning meeting

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with the city this morning
so we had about 10 or 12 people on the

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call it was at eight at nine o'clock
this morning and we're already Off to

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the Races and so I'm really excited to
see that everybody is leaning in and

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leaning in very very well we're working
well together as we always have

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um again just a little education this is
not Tiff financing obviously Tiff

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projects are are owned by the developer
in this case the project is still owned

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by the city with all of these
improvements it's still a city-owned

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stadium which is terrific
and the operation the professional team

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is the private investment and that's
what we're doing

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next step we have to extend the area to
capture the income taxes and sales taxes

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and that resolution is coming before the
city council very shortly

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and we need to do that before June 30th
and with that I'll take any questions

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you might have

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thank you so much for that uh awesome
presentation I'm excited

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for the city and for what you all have
brought to us and exciting news for our

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tax payers that we are not raising taxes
and also to the attraction that is

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coming to our city and the phenomenal
job that you have done over the years so

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thank you for the charge and the lead
with that and have to give kudos to Joe

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for your tireless works as well so thank
you so much for your efforts at this

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time I will open it up for my colleagues
if there's any questions at this time

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I don't have questions I just have
comments I'll open it up for questions

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and or comments so it's okay appropriate
thank you so much I just want to thank

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you
thank you I remember when you when you

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first started this
your commitment was strong then it's

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even stronger now for your own personal
investment in our city but also the

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vision that you have continuously
articulated to take us higher New

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Beginnings New Visions can we imagine
and to see where we're at as a city and

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the stadium and all of your uh
supporters but also Joe and others it's

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been a great great experience and again
I'm extremely grateful for you and your

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team and what has been done for the city
of South Bend it means a great deal to

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me thank you very much we really have
poured our hearts into this it's really

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been more of a best it's more than just
a business

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if you imagine being in a business where
you get to throw a party for 8 100 of

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your neighbors it's a it's an
extraordinary experience and Joe and his

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team really do make us all look good so
thank you thank you Joe

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I'll go down the line counselor Thomas
Morgan yes thank you president

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yeah
let's add my thanks and gratitude to

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your image of imagination your vision
your investment in the city of South

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Bend I live on Chapin Street so not far
from the ballpark and so have seen this

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amazing investment over the 20 years
that I've lived in that neighborhood and

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we benefit every Friday from those
wonderful fireworks in the summer so my

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family very much enjoys going to the
ball games I my question

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um uh relates to is is part of the
expansion also to um

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uh to increase the the training facility
as well

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um is that part of the investment no the
training facilities actually own owned

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by myself okay so any kind of work
that's done on the on the performance

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center would be either the Cubs or
myself investing there so that that is a

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that is my building so it won't be used
for for my building okay but the rest of

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it yeah we'll we'll not only be adding
and improving but we'll also you know

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since the ballpark was built in 1987 and
much of like the one kitchen if you can

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believe there's only one kitchen that
serves the entire Ballpark and that's on

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the second floor of the main building so
that one elevator in the entire ballpark

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has to move people and food and spread
it out through the entire ballpark it's

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so inefficient and and arguably just bad
so we really want to improve the food

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distribution and the efficiency of the
stadium as well so we'll be improving

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even the the 1987 part of this as well
great and then

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you do have the best the best dogs in
town we do have the best hot dogs I

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agree thank you
thank you counselor Lee yes I just would

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like to say thank you for the
presentation it is so good to know that

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this ballpark has been such a important
part of the revitalization of the

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downtown area and my father was a
baseball uh person and

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one of the greatest Pleasures was to be
able to take him to the Cubs games and

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and I just want to tell you just how
much joy that place brings so many

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people and uh we've taken inner city
kids who've had and didn't have an

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opportunity
to see a professional ball game before

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and they just had a blast and we we do
it every year and so I just want to tell

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you thank you for your investment thank
you for your vision and uh very much

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excited about the Cubs stadium and all
that it's going to do and all that it's

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going to be so thank you very much thank
you very much I appreciate it

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thank you president McBride yeah I don't
have much more to add than my colleagues

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have kind of already said but um just
watching that presentation and seeing

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you before us thinking of all the
collaborative efforts that have brought

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the park to where it is at right now to
me is just it's amazing it's part of our

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South Bend history now and you are going
to be part of that history as well

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because your vision is just amazing your
own personal investment because of how

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much you believed in the stadium
um and it's really you know the Love of

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the Game yes I remember Joe Kernan loved
baseball he truly loved it with all of

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his heart
um and I'm sure that he would just love

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to see where it's at now God bless him
um but thank you so much for your

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investment in the community it brings so
much joy to families I've been to so

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many picnics there and events there
um my grandchildren love it there they

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love to all the the
activities you have for children so it's

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really just a wonderful place and a gem
for the city of South Bend and I just

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can't thank you enough I know it's been
a lot of work to get to where you're at

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but um you got there and and it's a
blessing thank you very much and you

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know anything that's worth it takes a
lot of work but but I will say this and

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Mr Lee I don't know if your father is
still with us is he now he passed away

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this past February yeah it reminds me of
a story when the Cubs won the World

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Series in 2016 the Chicago Tribune
covered that game seven uh when the

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against the Cubs you know were about to
clinch and in cemeteries throughout

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Chicago there were people sitting in
lawn chairs with their laptops streaming

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the game because they wanted to be with
their fathers and mothers and

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grandmothers and grandfathers to watch
the game with them it really is about

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family it's you would think it's about
baseball but it really isn't each and

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every one of you have made comments
about how wonderful it is I agree but

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the wonderful part is actually coming
there with family and friends and

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sharing an experience win or lose you
can still have a great time there

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counselor wax
thank you and you literally uh took the

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words out of my mouth I was going to uh
comment on

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the
fond memories that I had going to the

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South Bank Cubs with my father and
siblings as a little kid and now being

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able to share that experience with my
own children is is really wonderful and

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I just wanted to thank you for your
faith in and belief in the city of South

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Bend and its future
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sorry to change the theme by asking your
question

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you mentioned the two sources of uh two
income sources for the previous

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Investments you said you mentioned
yourself and the other one is the city

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the city yeah so what's the total
investment that's been made over the

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past
well the total investment I know that my

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investment's been about 32 million
dollars that's included the four

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apartment buildings in the and uh and
what I've done with the stadium itself

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uh the city I would probably say
about 18 million

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yeah it's been wonderful I mean to
rebuild that Stadium today would

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probably be about a 75 million dollar
Endeavor wow so that I think the city of

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South Bend can take a bow if you will
generation about generation of leaders

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here that's something you built for
about nine and a half million dollars

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actually increased in value to about 75
million dollars

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and and so the investment keeps going as
long as it continues to be relevant and

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it will for many many years to come it
we'll all leave it behind for the for

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the generations that come after us and
it's I think it's a real Jewel it's a

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real Jewel we're the investment and then
uh you mentioned so the likely procedure

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would be to issue a bond against
Advanced uh yes sales tax do you have a

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timeline for that or well interest rates
are a little high right now so it'll

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impact what the bond will yield so we'll
try to hold off until perhaps interest

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rates improve but in the meantime we do
have the funds to begin the planning

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stages and uh the hope is that we'll
break ground the day after the 24 season

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because we don't want to disrupt the
season itself so the day after the last

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game of 2024 we'll try to get the we
will have the stadium open by the first

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day or April of 25. whether or not the
whole project is done I doubt it we'll

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probably have it done sometime during
the 25 season or a little bit after the

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25 season but we'll be working on Parts
outside the bowl so it won't disrupt the

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crowd or the game
wonderful thank you

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I'll turn to my colleagues online to see
if counselor Davis if you have any

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questions or comments and also counselor
Laurie Hammond

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councilman Davis said he can't hear you
so we're trying to work on that now okay

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with that being said Thank you Mr Berlin
for the presentation we're looking

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forward to working with you and
continued improvements we thank you so

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much the one thing I do have for you it
is not the presentation you just saw but

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it's a list of all the different things
that we've done from a philanthropic

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standpoint about two million dollars in
philanthropy has been achieved from the

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South Bank Cubs to cities exactly so may
I give this to the clerk yes please

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thank you

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thank you thank you

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at this time we will move on to our
update

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on Cherry Street we have Leah Phil the
director of sustainability maycog

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let me see we have Caleb here
from Community investment

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yes
and Chris okay oh we have the dream team

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of council members we've got a a good
group here

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um and we'll uh so I'll start by
introducing myself Kayla Bauer executive

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director of community investment with
offices on the 14th floor of this

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building joined by Chris dressel senior
planner in the Department of Community

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investment Leah till with maycog Mark
espich from the St Joseph County Health

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Department and Dave Jeffers from Roberts
environmental so we'll all be kind of

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switching off here to to share updates
to you uh on a couple of parcels in the

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near West Side neighborhood so just to
kind of give you the overview

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there were a few Parcels that came up
during the near West Side neighborhood

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process as concerns for neighbors and
and there have been ongoing

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conversations about a number of these
Parcels so the three we're going to hone

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in on today to discuss is uh their
designated here one two three number one

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is the former Oil Express
property on West Washington Street which

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is owned by the South Bend Redevelopment
commission

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number two just to the south of that on
Cherry Street is the former South Bend

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range building privately owned and was
on a certificate sale this last year it

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was a bid was placed but then was not
ultimately a petition for issuance of

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that tax deed wasn't wasn't filed so
that means that it will go back to tax

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delinquency Still Remains with the
existing private owner and then parcel

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number three uh the former her which
Iron Works which is the large groupings

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of parcels here that are along the
railroad track there and the vacated

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rail line in the middle of these Parcels
so three distinct Parcels here one of

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them is owned by the Redevelopment
commission and we'll give you a overview

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of activities at each of the these
Parcels as we proceed today so I'll

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bring Chris up and he can share a little
bit more about the near West Side

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neighborhood plan which is when
neighbors shared concerns about these

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parcels and kind of kicked off some
activity around all three of these and

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then we'll go through each of the
parcels

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thanks Caleb uh good evening everyone
again Chris Trussell Department

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Community investment offices on the 14th
floor of this building

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um be indulges for just for a moment to
take you back to last year you recall we

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sort of initiated the conversation
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435
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:21,540
um that we're continuing today and that
was also around the same time that we

436
00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:28,320
that the council's heard the uh near
West Side neighborhood plan and adopted

437
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:32,040
the same back in September so just cover
a lot of information in that plan but

438
00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:37,380
just couple a couple things that we'll
cover today just a quick plan project

439
00:39:34,619 --> 00:39:42,480
highlight and the Planned zoning as it
pertains to our subject matter today

440
00:39:40,380 --> 00:39:45,359
uh in the near West Side neighborhood
plan

441
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,680
um
part of a series of neighborhood plans

442
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:53,579
that we're doing uh continuing to do for
for different parts of the city in this

443
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:58,020
plan in a number of major components in
a series of projects

444
00:39:56,579 --> 00:40:05,220
um that were that we're looking to
achieve over the next uh 20 years

445
00:40:01,460 --> 00:40:12,599
and those planned project areas are
denoted here uh with the the numbering

446
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:16,859
system and on the far uh west side of
the neighborhood that's sort of the the

447
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:20,040
red box highlighting this will focus on
that

448
00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:24,240
and just mention a couple of these
things in a little more detail one of

449
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:32,520
which was the the commentary about
industrial reuse for the area number one

450
00:40:28,380 --> 00:40:36,720
and that's the area that includes the
sites that that Caleb just pointed out

451
00:40:34,260 --> 00:40:42,720
the herwich iron site and the also the
site the former South Bend Range site as

452
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:45,980
well so that was something that we
wanted to address is encourage New Uses

453
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:50,280
here
an assess and address environmental

454
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:55,020
conditions is necessary and then I'll
skip the number three which is talking

455
00:40:52,800 --> 00:41:02,180
about the 1500 Block of West Washington
Street that's a property that we denoted

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00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:02,180
in the plan is one that we'd like to see

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00:41:02,359 --> 00:41:15,240
be reused as multi-use
with multi-family housing and

458
00:41:10,940 --> 00:41:18,780
uh also mixed use so
um

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00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:21,839
I'm going to point those out and then uh
just to get onto the topic of

460
00:41:20,460 --> 00:41:25,560
environmental activities and some of the
updates that we have

461
00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:30,839
um I think it's important to note
anytime we're doing

462
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:36,060
uh sort of brown filter activity or
environmental activities like such it's

463
00:41:32,339 --> 00:41:39,599
all about reducing the number of known
unknowns

464
00:41:38,099 --> 00:41:44,099
um I think we've done that we'll have
those results for you very briefly very

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00:41:41,820 --> 00:41:48,780
quickly and then obviously encountering
some unknown unknowns but

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00:41:46,619 --> 00:41:53,460
um I think we we've made some definitely
made some strides in that area so

467
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:57,900
just a recap on on some of that and give
you some just some of the the

468
00:41:55,260 --> 00:42:03,359
terminology and language real quick
um as the plan was used as a as a framer

469
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:08,700
to address a whole range of issues and
priorities Brownfield sites were just

470
00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:12,420
one of those and it's not a detailed
road map

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00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:18,060
um and then Brownfield that quick
definition it's it's property that's

472
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:24,180
it's experiencing uh some some hold up
due to real or perceived concerns

473
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:28,320
um and then just recognize environmental
issues are complex there's a whole host

474
00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:31,859
of different ways that they can be
addressed

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00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:37,800
um and looking for solutions for future
use and then in the due diligence the

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00:42:36,060 --> 00:42:41,760
tools that we have available to us the
most common ones are what's referred to

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00:42:39,540 --> 00:42:47,220
as the phase one which is sort of a
historical inventory and interview

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00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:52,980
regarding the the use on the site and
then a phase two which is looking at

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00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:58,319
testing and and sampling going as far as
a remedies remediation plan for the site

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00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:06,240
as well
so we'll take you back to that map and

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00:43:02,819 --> 00:43:10,500
look at site number one the formal Oil
Express and the 1500 Block of West

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00:43:07,980 --> 00:43:15,000
Washington and this point I'll turn it
over to Leah

483
00:43:12,660 --> 00:43:18,480
yes hi I'll keep it very brief my name
is Leah thel director of sustainability

484
00:43:16,619 --> 00:43:22,619
with the Michiana area Council of
governments with offices on the 11th

485
00:43:20,339 --> 00:43:26,520
floor of this building I just wanted to
update you that maycog has fully funded

486
00:43:25,140 --> 00:43:30,300
the sampling work that we're talking
about we're investing about forty two

487
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:35,400
thousand dollars of our grant funding
that we secured from the EPA and we have

488
00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:39,119
additional funding set aside both for
additional sampling that may be needed

489
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:42,720
on this site as well as South Bend range
currently we only have eligibility to

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00:43:40,980 --> 00:43:46,440
work on that site but this is something
we prioritized from day one when we were

491
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:52,200
applying for this funding we were
thinking about this area in South Bend

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00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:55,440
so with with that I'll introduce our
environmental professional to talk a

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00:43:53,579 --> 00:44:00,300
little bit more about the results from
sampling that was conducted this year on

494
00:43:57,240 --> 00:44:03,960
this site maycog has contracted directly
with metric environmental which is a

495
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,780
minority-owned business and they've
subcontracted with Robert's

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00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:10,680
environmental and we have a person from
Roberts Dave Jeffers who's here to talk

497
00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:13,760
with you about that so
turn it over to Dave

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00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:20,579
thank you Dave Jeffers senior
hydrogeologist with Roberts

499
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,940
environmental we're out of Goshen
Indiana I actually live in St Joe County

500
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:28,680
though
so

501
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:35,339
let's go ahead and Advance here how do
you advance it oh there we go

502
00:44:31,140 --> 00:44:42,240
so we did sampling across the entire uh
part one site if you will

503
00:44:38,579 --> 00:44:46,500
so we did a good whoops
there we go

504
00:44:43,980 --> 00:44:49,980
second one now
doesn't want to work

505
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:55,800
there we go
so we did sampling all these little dots

506
00:44:52,200 --> 00:45:00,619
are where we took soil groundwater and
soil gas vapor samples

507
00:44:58,619 --> 00:45:06,240
and what we found in the groundwater
that really isn't that bad one of our

508
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:11,099
seven samples was over a screening level
and we know the rivers over to the East

509
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:15,720
and that exceedance was right up here at
B1 which is right on the Western

510
00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:19,800
Property boundary so we actually think
that exceedance is coming from an

511
00:45:17,940 --> 00:45:26,880
off-site area to the west of the
property not from the actual site

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00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:33,839
soil gas very similar results we had one
exceedance and I believe that was down

513
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:38,760
over B12 but again it was barely over
what they call an item screening level

514
00:45:35,940 --> 00:45:43,140
it was very low matter of fact it's so
low that we'd probably want to go back

515
00:45:40,619 --> 00:45:48,180
and confirm that that exceedance was
even real if you will

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00:45:45,780 --> 00:45:52,500
so back every one of these dots we took
a soil sample so that becomes a driver a

517
00:45:50,819 --> 00:45:55,800
lot especially when you're going for
redevelopment on the residential side of

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00:45:54,540 --> 00:46:00,900
things
so out of the 27 samples we took I'm a

519
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:06,599
data guy obviously only nine of them
were over and we all know our high

520
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:12,900
school math that's 33 percent so 70 of
the site we didn't have any exceedances

521
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:18,480
in soil so which is really this whole
East and central portion of the site was

522
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:24,420
all quote unquote clean
and if we take care of some of those

523
00:46:21,420 --> 00:46:29,040
with a cap or digging those up
that's where we start to talk about can

524
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:35,220
we redevelop the site well yes we can
and another important consideration is

525
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:38,220
all those samples that were over were
from a layer of fill material that we

526
00:46:37,260 --> 00:46:44,579
found
and it was anywhere from three to

527
00:46:41,339 --> 00:46:48,900
oh five feet thick across the site and
that it could be

528
00:46:46,140 --> 00:46:51,920
it almost looks like a blackish type
there's coal stored there back in the

529
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:57,480
day
Cinder gravel but that was all below the

530
00:46:54,900 --> 00:47:01,800
surface so on the surface here you have
as you saw in the street view it's the

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00:47:00,359 --> 00:47:06,359
city takes care of the side the city
owns it it's mowed with a vegetative

532
00:47:03,780 --> 00:47:12,839
cover but we also found there's anywhere
from 3 to 12 inches of clean topsoil

533
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:18,000
across the site that's been added that's
above this fill so I know some people

534
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:22,319
had some concerns about children playing
soccer just walking their dogs on the

535
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:28,920
site so as long as nobody's out out
there digging we should be good as far

536
00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:36,060
as a current receptor issues and then in
general and Leah can attest to this that

537
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:41,760
this site is is generally not bad we've
seen way worse than this site and our

538
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:48,420
work we've done with maycog so again
I guess any questions on the data as far

539
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:52,339
as the environmental samples
I already want to wait till questions at

540
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,339
the end

541
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:05,520
good evening Mark aspect San Diego
County Health Department I'm the

542
00:48:03,420 --> 00:48:10,500
director of environmental health
and um offices in the eighth floor ninth

543
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:13,760
floor of this building
so

544
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:20,339
um South Bend range
on Cherry Street was brought to our

545
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:25,680
attention by a couple councilmen and so
they were concerned about it I was able

546
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:31,079
to find a hole in the fence went in uh
did an inspection of the property

547
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:35,280
we didn't like what I was seeing ended
up getting a hold of idem the Indiana

548
00:48:33,839 --> 00:48:40,460
Department of Environmental Management
had them come take a look at the site

549
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:46,619
send them a bunch of pictures
there were piles of drums outside in

550
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:52,140
various conditions a lot of them were
just rusted through leaking all over the

551
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:57,900
place some really old material in there
but there was also just a lot of piles

552
00:48:54,420 --> 00:49:02,760
of combustible material that look like
it could uh you know catch on fire then

553
00:49:00,540 --> 00:49:07,980
we would have this toxic plume floating
over the city we wouldn't know what was

554
00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:14,220
in it so it was a pretty big concern of
ours and then uh working with idem they

555
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:21,540
reached out to EPA EPA came in
immediately got everything secured we

556
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:29,160
have a total of 76 drums on site and
about 35 5 gallon or less containers

557
00:49:26,300 --> 00:49:33,180
or contact with EPA
they're hoping to get the stuff out

558
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:38,339
maybe by the end of this month it's
still on site everything's been

559
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:44,339
characterized and staged in a secure
location and but then the train

560
00:49:41,339 --> 00:49:49,380
derailment in Ohio Kevin had he's been
over there ever since that took place so

561
00:49:46,859 --> 00:49:52,099
but he's hoping to get the drums out at
the end of this month

562
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:06,839
great and then moving on uh to cite the
third site part of this discussion which

563
00:50:05,099 --> 00:50:13,440
is the former her which Iron Works
largest of the three sites don't have a

564
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:18,119
lot from the city end to share but just
wanted to share some

565
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:24,540
changes there has been a new change in
ownership there so a Rochester Metals is

566
00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:29,880
a company out of Rochester Indiana they
have purchased all of the parcels that

567
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:35,160
Encompass the herwich Iron Works site
and are in the process of planning a

568
00:50:32,579 --> 00:50:40,079
potential investment there this company
generally has a history of purchasing

569
00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:45,300
sites with potential environmental
contamination and remediating them and

570
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:50,579
then making Investments on the site so a
good track record from the company that

571
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:55,260
site had been under an item enforcement
action and so that means that the

572
00:50:53,819 --> 00:51:00,180
Indiana Department of Environmental
Management was investigating potential

573
00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:04,500
concerns there I I think the new
property owner has been Cooperative

574
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:09,300
there was a phase two conducted on the
site

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00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:13,559
I believe within the last six months and
so we're optimistic with the new

576
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:17,940
ownership that they have one been
Cooperative with idem and two that that

577
00:51:16,020 --> 00:51:23,460
site is moving in a positive direction
we'll be sure to engage uh cooperatively

578
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:28,079
with that owner but that's really the
the high level update there mostly has

579
00:51:25,859 --> 00:51:31,920
been handled by idem and the private
owner up to this point so all that to

580
00:51:31,020 --> 00:51:36,300
say
um there are definitely next steps for a

581
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:41,400
couple of these sites the Oil Express
site which is owned by the city we will

582
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:46,200
pursue additional sampling funds
available through maycog and then

583
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:49,920
explore the opportunities for cleanup
grants through the state of Indiana

584
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:54,980
there were some points of concern on
that site and so we would look to

585
00:51:53,099 --> 00:52:00,900
remediate those
additionally then on Cherry Street like

586
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:04,440
Mark shared the EPA will be out to
remove those drums again those have

587
00:52:03,180 --> 00:52:09,180
already been secured they're
encapsulated so there's field they just

588
00:52:07,619 --> 00:52:14,760
need to be removed from the site and
disposed of properly and and we hope EPA

589
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:21,359
will be able to do that here in short
order and then additionally maycog will

590
00:52:18,660 --> 00:52:26,940
pursue potential additional sampling
funds that would come with the

591
00:52:25,319 --> 00:52:31,700
cooperation of the property owner there
to ensure that there hasn't been any

592
00:52:28,980 --> 00:52:38,280
additional contamination of the soil
from those drums so that's kind of the

593
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:43,619
high level overview of these sites
appreciate your time and and interest in

594
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:46,859
these and I think with that we'd be
happy to take any questions

595
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:50,400
thank you at this time I'll go down the
line again if you're online I'll start

596
00:52:48,420 --> 00:52:55,920
with counselor white since I know that
you had been requesting the meetings

597
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:59,819
with the various partners with myself
and the County Council and the city as

598
00:52:58,260 --> 00:53:04,619
well with maycog in the health
department so if you could

599
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:09,059
go ahead that would be great I would
like to like to thank all the

600
00:53:05,819 --> 00:53:14,579
individuals that did come together we've
been discussing this for quite some time

601
00:53:11,460 --> 00:53:19,619
I want to say since September
or maybe later than that but I would

602
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:25,619
like to say that for the record the
concerns did not

603
00:53:21,140 --> 00:53:30,960
grow out of the plan for many of years
and I want to say at least 50 some years

604
00:53:28,260 --> 00:53:37,099
there have always been concerns about
Cherry Street and also about her rich

605
00:53:34,619 --> 00:53:42,180
art and so those have been ongoing
concerns from the environmental

606
00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:49,800
perspective so I don't want it to be
stated or view that because of the plan

607
00:53:45,839 --> 00:53:55,260
that these concerns were raised as well
as as I begin to look at what type of

608
00:53:52,740 --> 00:54:02,579
investment is the Rochester company
planning on putting in that site

609
00:53:59,460 --> 00:54:09,180
what type of generally they work in
metal processing so some form of metal

610
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:13,020
processing facility but I I don't have I
haven't spoken directly with the company

611
00:54:10,740 --> 00:54:17,160
because you know I'm looking at is that
what we want and I know may have a

612
00:54:14,940 --> 00:54:21,059
zoning concerns but if you look at
housing and you looking at the West

613
00:54:19,859 --> 00:54:25,920
Washington
site for

614
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:31,500
housing if I'm not mistaken
the neighborhood plan does contemplate

615
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:36,079
multi-family housing on that on the on
the Oil Express site so is that the type

616
00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:40,980
of investment that we would want
homeowners to live around because not

617
00:54:38,940 --> 00:54:46,460
only we really are looking at three
different issues uh the first one was

618
00:54:43,859 --> 00:54:52,859
the oral Express and less Redevelopment
uh property you have stopping ran range

619
00:54:49,859 --> 00:54:58,140
which is up for tax sales again and then
you have her rich R so you have these

620
00:54:55,380 --> 00:55:04,920
three entities
and are they how do they come together

621
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:10,800
to really reach a comprehensive
approach towards what is best for that

622
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:16,380
particular area again these are
long-term issues

623
00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:21,300
well I think on the on the south end
range property that's one that the city

624
00:55:18,839 --> 00:55:25,920
has indicated uh that our department
Department of Community investment we've

625
00:55:23,220 --> 00:55:30,240
indicated our willingness to uh purchase
the tax certificate

626
00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:34,980
um uh well not purchase it but have it
transferred to the city from the County

627
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:40,020
Commissioners uh generally how that's
worked in the past when we've done that

628
00:55:36,599 --> 00:55:44,819
is that occurs after it is unpurchased
at certificate sales so because there

629
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:50,520
was payments made against the property
taxes it will revert to tax sale and

630
00:55:47,819 --> 00:55:55,920
then certificate sale and then we would
seek and requests that the County

631
00:55:53,099 --> 00:56:01,260
Commissioners transfer that tax
certificate to the city so that would

632
00:55:58,380 --> 00:56:07,319
allow the city to own the South End
Range site and work to remediate or

633
00:56:04,740 --> 00:56:13,559
demolish the building there whatever is
necessary as we will hopefully discover

634
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:18,200
from further sampling of that site
look at it what are the plans for this

635
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:25,200
area when you look from
Walnut going all the way down to her

636
00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:31,140
rich iron when you look at Cherry Street
there's only two houses I mean four

637
00:56:27,660 --> 00:56:35,280
houses and one is vacant it's not you
know what's living there you go on the

638
00:56:33,059 --> 00:56:40,980
next street there's only two or three
and so we look at putting permanent

639
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:46,800
housing but you look at surrounding it's
more industrial more so than you know

640
00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:50,880
wanting someone to live in that area I
know I probably would not want to at all

641
00:56:48,839 --> 00:56:54,240
that surrounding me so those are
concerns I have

642
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:58,380
well I think you know the neighborhood
plan contemplates potential multi-family

643
00:56:56,460 --> 00:57:02,940
there obviously there was a rezoning
request a number of years ago for that

644
00:57:00,839 --> 00:57:07,079
site at this point in time we don't have
any plans or you know we haven't been

645
00:57:05,579 --> 00:57:13,640
any conversations with developers
related to that site and I think to the

646
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:19,980
west of the site the herwich iron site
we still believe is is a good industrial

647
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:26,040
use would be an appropriate use there it
lies on the railroad tracks it has

648
00:57:23,099 --> 00:57:29,780
historically been an industrial use and
so it is still zone for industrial

649
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:38,520
come back okay
councilwoman Thomas Martin yes thank you

650
00:57:35,420 --> 00:57:43,440
thank you Mr Bauer and others for this
update

651
00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:48,359
um and pertinent information I I just
have a few comments and

652
00:57:47,339 --> 00:57:53,460
um
question I so it's my understanding that

653
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:58,099
in the
in the 80s and 90s previous

654
00:57:55,140 --> 00:58:03,599
administrations had addressed
brownfield's remediation across the city

655
00:58:01,140 --> 00:58:10,339
to some extent I know standards change
over time and so that leads me to my

656
00:58:07,740 --> 00:58:15,020
question was there a particular
event that triggered additional soil

657
00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:21,559
samplings
at the

658
00:58:16,980 --> 00:58:21,559
at the time that the testing started

659
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:28,859
no I Leah can potentially speak to this
but I think it was primarily driven by

660
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:33,359
Resident requests and concerns we had
heard concerns about the city-owned

661
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:38,819
property the Oil Express property and
what contamination could or could not be

662
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:44,280
there but Leah
yeah I recalled um back in 2019 there

663
00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:46,980
was a city council meeting where the
permanent Supportive Housing project

664
00:58:45,420 --> 00:58:50,819
came up and I think a number of the
council people mentioned environmental

665
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:54,420
concerns and it was like
um what Chris was saying we just didn't

666
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:57,660
know and not knowing is not a good
position to be in if there are health

667
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:01,740
risks related to exposure and
environmental contamination so macog

668
00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:05,220
wanted to help the city know what's
there and that's the step of that that

669
00:59:03,780 --> 00:59:10,079
we've taken but we don't have a current
direction forward as far as a specific

670
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:15,299
plan to use so at this point we would
not do additional sampling because now

671
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:19,500
we know it's it's not a danger but in
order to redevelop it for some use it

672
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:26,160
would need some additional sampling and
limited cleanup thank you um I was oh

673
00:59:22,619 --> 00:59:29,599
just a follow-up question I um uh was at
those long meetings and part of the

674
00:59:28,319 --> 00:59:35,099
neighborhood
conversation around that I uh so know

675
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:41,280
this intimately
um I think my my

676
00:59:38,460 --> 00:59:48,240
I I guess kind of outstanding question
is my understanding is that when we go

677
00:59:44,099 --> 00:59:52,099
to pursue additional uh well go to
pursue development that these

678
00:59:49,980 --> 00:59:58,020
environmental testings
occur and any remediation then what

679
00:59:55,980 --> 01:00:03,240
would happen based on what the land use
is so that's I guess my my working

680
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:08,160
knowledge of how we move forward to
address these kinds of environmental

681
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:13,640
concerns is that correct
correct so you know if we were to go

682
01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:18,540
back to 2019 with that rezoning request
if that developer itself inheritage had

683
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:24,119
moved forward with the project they
would have needed to conduct a phase two

684
01:00:20,579 --> 01:00:29,160
environmental on the site themselves and
they then would have to you know if they

685
01:00:27,059 --> 01:00:33,540
were going to build there if there was
need for remediation they would do that

686
01:00:31,980 --> 01:00:38,940
at that time so that that's generally
standard practice uh that we have phase

687
01:00:36,660 --> 01:00:43,920
ones uh on on many of the properties
that the city owns those are reviews of

688
01:00:41,220 --> 01:00:49,559
Records historical data but a phase two
which involves physically boring the

689
01:00:45,780 --> 01:00:54,780
soils we do in circumstances where the
phase one may indicate that there could

690
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:58,980
be concerns and then additionally then
those are always something that would be

691
01:00:56,460 --> 01:01:03,119
necessary before someone were to develop
a site okay so that is standard practice

692
01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:09,180
and diligence move for moving forward
yeah yeah and just real quick I think

693
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:13,740
what Leah alluded to since we don't have
a plan yet so once you have a plan in

694
01:01:12,299 --> 01:01:17,339
place where the buildings are going to
be where the parking lots are going to

695
01:01:15,180 --> 01:01:21,599
be well then you can tailor your
sampling plan so do we need to sample

696
01:01:19,980 --> 01:01:27,119
surface soil where there's going to be
an asphalt parking lot well probably not

697
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:32,460
so and so we have a good general idea of
where the bad spots I guess if you will

698
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:36,780
so we can work with that planner to say
this would be a good spot for green

699
01:01:34,020 --> 01:01:40,980
space or to walk your dog and this might
be better spots for a parking lot or

700
01:01:38,819 --> 01:01:45,599
building so you kind of try to tailor
that sampling and the development to

701
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:50,900
what you have you know to save cost on
the remediation portion of that so

702
01:01:47,940 --> 01:01:56,579
that's helpful thank you
yes I first of all thank you all for the

703
01:01:54,059 --> 01:02:02,099
presentation we know that this has been
a great concern for many people for a

704
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:11,880
long amount of time and I just wanted to
be clear that out of 27 areas there were

705
01:02:07,380 --> 01:02:15,500
only nine spots that were abnormal
and but and even the abnormal was very

706
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:21,839
low
for soil some of the spots were higher

707
01:02:19,140 --> 01:02:26,220
uh with lead specifically there was
three spots that were high for lead but

708
01:02:24,420 --> 01:02:31,020
again we're not too worried about it
because we know it's from that fill

709
01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:35,760
layer is the reason it's impacted and we
have clean soils and the vegetative

710
01:02:32,819 --> 01:02:39,960
covers so like I said unless somebody's
taking a shovel out there and or an

711
01:02:37,980 --> 01:02:44,700
excavator that nobody's going to contact
that but so those are really the what I

712
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:49,079
don't even want to call them hot spots
really but the areas that would need

713
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:54,660
either a cap or to be dug up and
basically removed from the site

714
01:02:51,680 --> 01:03:00,180
how big are those areas
um one's actually three of those spots

715
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:04,440
are from the far northwest corner so
there's actually three different spots

716
01:03:01,859 --> 01:03:10,079
and I think I pointed out the whole
Central area and the northeastern area

717
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:15,000
was there you go yep see if this thing
works again

718
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:21,599
okay so this cluster right up here these
three borings and they were all over

719
01:03:18,180 --> 01:03:25,799
and then I believe it was down beef 15
here and then one spot way over here so

720
01:03:24,180 --> 01:03:30,540
this whole
quadrant here was clean so that's kind

721
01:03:28,500 --> 01:03:36,380
of what we're getting at do you go ahead
and clean up these spots that we know

722
01:03:33,359 --> 01:03:42,839
and then the rest are are just
averaged out if you will and are clean

723
01:03:40,619 --> 01:03:46,500
below the screening levels and I'm
talking residential screening levels

724
01:03:44,460 --> 01:03:51,180
here so that's that's what you have to
contemplate as far as the cost scenario

725
01:03:49,260 --> 01:03:55,859
do you want to go ahead and dig those up
and remove them should you just cap the

726
01:03:53,400 --> 01:04:00,420
whole site with what's required as two
feet of clean soil so

727
01:03:58,500 --> 01:04:04,980
those are the things you'd have to do a
cost analysis basically what's what's

728
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:08,880
the best thing and I know there's limits
on the grants you can get so you you

729
01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:12,780
know you kind of want to
Factor all that in what what's your cap

730
01:04:10,980 --> 01:04:19,799
on cost and what can you do for that
price so but it's it's definitely doable

731
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:24,420
so so the consensus is that it's it's
not as bad as we thought it was

732
01:04:22,380 --> 01:04:29,700
and
the areas that are bad

733
01:04:26,579 --> 01:04:35,339
they can be remediated pretty easily
yes yes that's a good generalization yes

734
01:04:32,599 --> 01:04:41,040
all right thank you I just
have to understand in the simple terms

735
01:04:38,059 --> 01:04:47,880
councilman skowski thank you president
McBride um I just had a question back to

736
01:04:43,619 --> 01:04:53,099
the Cherry Street 76 drums on site you
said some were leaking and that they're

737
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:57,799
now encapsulated and ready for removal
um in the area where those were found

738
01:04:55,380 --> 01:05:03,480
where there'll be some
samples taken there or a phase two so to

739
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:08,160
speak to see exactly what that
contamination is or are you just going

740
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:13,619
to wait and we will fund sampling for
that but we cannot do anything on site

741
01:05:10,380 --> 01:05:17,040
until the EPA gives us the all clear
so but we have that in our plan and

742
01:05:15,180 --> 01:05:21,839
we've budgeted for it okay I just wanted
to make sure I understood clearly that

743
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:26,220
process thank you
and I just want to take the time to say

744
01:05:23,579 --> 01:05:30,000
thank you for the collaboration and
meetings that we have had over

745
01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:37,020
um the course of several months and
talking about you know the abating of

746
01:05:32,940 --> 01:05:42,359
the juries as well as this site and for
macog and the health department and

747
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:48,180
along with idem and EPA to get involved
and to want to help and coming in

748
01:05:45,660 --> 01:05:53,579
encapsulating everything right now it's
just refreshing to hear that it's not we

749
01:05:51,299 --> 01:05:57,540
thought that it was bad and we do have
some work to do but just happy to know

750
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:01,079
that
um

751
01:05:58,140 --> 01:06:05,280
back in 2019 I had gotten on a council
on 18 and this was one of the first you

752
01:06:03,780 --> 01:06:09,720
know projects that was halted because
they were talking about putting the

753
01:06:07,020 --> 01:06:13,980
permanent Supportive Housing there so to
bring this to the Forefront and to get

754
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:16,460
it cleaned up is uh great work so thank
you so much

755
01:06:20,579 --> 01:06:28,579
the that site there's the lead is is
covered with a cleaner surface level

756
01:06:25,740 --> 01:06:28,579
surface layer

757
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:40,020
correct yeah how deep are how tall is
that surface layer

758
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:46,799
uh one LED was uh taken from a foot down
uh the other lead was one to three feet

759
01:06:44,220 --> 01:06:50,900
and one was actually three to five feet
down so

760
01:06:49,500 --> 01:06:55,799
thank you
at this time I'll turn to my colleagues

761
01:06:53,640 --> 01:07:00,859
online to see if they're on and see if
they have any questions I'll start with

762
01:06:57,299 --> 01:07:00,859
counselor Lori Hammond

763
01:07:03,059 --> 01:07:09,660
if not I'll turn to counselor Henry
Davis to see if he has been able to

764
01:07:07,319 --> 01:07:14,940
adhere and to speak
oh yeah I'm thank you I'm on my phone uh

765
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:19,319
for whatever reason is not happening
with my computer

766
01:07:16,859 --> 01:07:26,520
but the phone is a computer as well so
whatever uh no I don't have any like

767
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:31,140
thoughts or anything I I no I shouldn't
say that I do

768
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:35,760
I know when you go into developing an
area there are obviously rules that are

769
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:39,720
uh State mandated and they're federally
mandated as well

770
01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:42,539
as as we're talking the conversation
continues to talk about just the place

771
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:48,839
in the dirt
in the position that is exists right now

772
01:07:45,799 --> 01:07:54,119
what happens when a person or a
developer wants to come in and redevelop

773
01:07:51,660 --> 01:07:57,839
the site for maybe housing or whatever
it may be

774
01:07:55,440 --> 01:08:04,039
does that change the environment and how
we look at it at that point

775
01:08:01,140 --> 01:08:04,039
it has to

776
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:12,599
well I would yeah generally if there was
a developer interested in the site

777
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:17,580
um what our department would do is
oftentimes the developer would say I'm

778
01:08:14,940 --> 01:08:22,380
interested in this site uh does the city
have any phase ones or phase twos so

779
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:26,759
either that historical documentation
which is a phase one or the phase two

780
01:08:24,839 --> 01:08:30,660
which is these results of these soil
borings and we would say in this case

781
01:08:28,859 --> 01:08:37,140
yes we've got both the phase one and a
phase two and here you go and that would

782
01:08:34,140 --> 01:08:43,199
then help inform them of okay you know
as they're laying out design for the

783
01:08:39,779 --> 01:08:50,160
site like Dave was alluding to
maybe placing the parking lot over areas

784
01:08:46,620 --> 01:08:54,480
where there could be areas of concern as
it relates to soil contamination that

785
01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:59,400
essentially caps that soil it's it
doesn't need to be dug out and removed

786
01:08:56,339 --> 01:09:04,739
or vice versa maybe they say we want we
really want to have green space here

787
01:09:01,699 --> 01:09:11,699
and you know in that case maybe they do
remediate soils or place a cap on top of

788
01:09:08,819 --> 01:09:15,600
those soils so I would say that those
are all things that they would look at

789
01:09:13,859 --> 01:09:23,640
as part of a phase one and phase two
prior to Redevelopment and yeah so

790
01:09:19,679 --> 01:09:31,160
that's kind of the high level view there
prior to Redevelopment and

791
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:31,160
any other questions Mr Davis

792
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:43,560
if not we'll move on
um oh counselor I just wanted to make

793
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:48,900
some closing comments if I can because
um having lived on

794
01:09:46,140 --> 01:09:55,440
this area for years has always been a
concern in regards to bromfields and the

795
01:09:52,259 --> 01:09:59,660
lack of investment and looking at some
of those concerns this discussion

796
01:09:57,420 --> 01:10:07,320
started way before
2019 if I'm not mistaken at that time if

797
01:10:04,140 --> 01:10:12,900
the sopin Heritage Foundation was going
to be building permanent housing on that

798
01:10:10,440 --> 01:10:18,900
site and there were a lot of concerns
that were raised to the point that the

799
01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:24,600
council members decided to wait and it
was my understanding that the first

800
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:30,960
round of testing had been done or was
being done but some of the developer

801
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:37,199
developers felt that they had approval
to move forward and the second testing

802
01:10:34,380 --> 01:10:42,420
had not been done is that correct I want
to make sure I have all my facts and I

803
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:46,260
think that's when we became aware that
it was the need to do the second round

804
01:10:44,340 --> 01:10:49,400
of testing before I'm talking about the
West Washington site

805
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:57,000
found no evidence of extensive site-wide
sampling in any of the box of records

806
01:10:55,440 --> 01:11:01,440
that we obtained from South Bend
Heritage all that we were able to find

807
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:05,760
was record that tanks had been removed
on the western portion of the site and

808
01:11:03,719 --> 01:11:09,360
sampling right where those tanks were
but we found no record of additional

809
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:12,440
sampling across the whole rest of the
site so that was a big question mark for

810
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:16,980
us
what the site conditions were so we

811
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:20,880
found no record of extensive sampling
okay and I think it's you know

812
01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:26,719
individuals have a right to ask
questions I think that's one form of

813
01:11:23,580 --> 01:11:33,239
democracy and it's not to
try to start stop any type of

814
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:37,440
development but I think that as we
continue to look at we know that the

815
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:41,460
city of South Bend and other cities they
have a lot of ground Fields you know

816
01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:45,540
it's just part of being we have a
filling station you need to look at all

817
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:51,060
kinds of things and this good
conversation and I I really appreciate

818
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:58,440
the collaboration with the health
department with Macon with the County

819
01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:04,080
Commissioners with yourself and with
council members as well because we have

820
01:12:00,900 --> 01:12:08,159
a responsibility to ensure that we do
ask these tough questions and that we

821
01:12:06,780 --> 01:12:15,260
have the very best you know information
as possible and having lived in that

822
01:12:12,060 --> 01:12:20,400
area for quite some time I understand
the concerns that the residents had and

823
01:12:18,780 --> 01:12:24,960
some of them who's still there which is
very very few they still have that

824
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:28,679
concern they want to make sure that
they're living in safe clean

825
01:12:26,699 --> 01:12:33,540
neighborhoods and we have the
responsibility to ensure that that is

826
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:39,000
the case so those are my comments
thank you so much I appreciate that

827
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:42,239
yes counselor I just have a comment too
I really do want to thank you for the

828
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:45,900
presentation that you've provided I
think this help this information just

829
01:12:44,580 --> 01:12:48,900
provides
um really good information for the

830
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:53,820
neighborhood and the community in
general to know where things stand and

831
01:12:51,000 --> 01:13:00,380
how we can move forward I do understand
that you know EPA standards change over

832
01:12:56,460 --> 01:13:04,380
time and with changes in federal
Administration and so

833
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:10,380
I think
um when I what I want to leave us with

834
01:13:06,900 --> 01:13:15,500
is that standards continually change and
and trust that

835
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:22,620
um that we are all watching that that
city government our County and so as

836
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:27,900
um as these kinds of EPA standards do
change that we come back to some of

837
01:13:25,140 --> 01:13:33,840
these you know questions and and sites
and and continue to assure that uh that

838
01:13:32,940 --> 01:13:39,900
we are
I guess up to up to current standards

839
01:13:37,860 --> 01:13:43,440
um and keeping our residents safe so
thank you

840
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:48,140
Thank you Kirk Jones can you see if
there's anyone in the virtual audience

841
01:13:45,239 --> 01:13:48,140
that has any questions

842
01:13:50,699 --> 01:13:53,780
I'm looking forward

843
01:13:54,600 --> 01:14:00,500
I'll turn to the public is there any
questions or comments from the public

844
01:14:06,260 --> 01:14:12,239
counselor Davis
yeah look I was trying to say something

845
01:14:10,860 --> 01:14:15,500
I don't know if my computer fine took
over and I got it back on my computer so

846
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:20,699
thank God
the uh the question I well so this

847
01:14:19,020 --> 01:14:25,860
conversation goes a little bit further
than just this particular area although

848
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:29,159
it is a very important space in this
community

849
01:14:27,659 --> 01:14:32,699
um I don't know if anyone remembers this
but probably about a year ago when I

850
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:39,239
talked about
the areas over in the sixth district uh

851
01:14:36,060 --> 01:14:46,739
where you have uh like the Industrial
Park area Walnut Street

852
01:14:42,300 --> 01:14:52,800
um going south uh towards Indiana Street
is off to the left and also to the right

853
01:14:49,140 --> 01:14:57,719
and I was talking about how in order for
us to begin to recruit employers or new

854
01:14:55,620 --> 01:15:02,280
employers or even maybe housing
developers those areas will have to be

855
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:07,020
cleaned up in order to even start having
those conversations with those

856
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:11,280
particular investors perhaps
and so I I think it makes sense

857
01:15:09,239 --> 01:15:16,679
obviously the hardest discussion of my
particular area but overall in areas

858
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:22,679
that have not been up and have not had
any sort of investment in the in the

859
01:15:19,199 --> 01:15:26,159
last several decades uh there's a larger
discussion here in the same conversation

860
01:15:24,179 --> 01:15:30,360
we had I'm over here by Beck's Lake as
well it's the same conversation yes we

861
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:35,159
are Russ Bell City and we have moved on
from that time so what did we do to

862
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:38,820
cover ourselves or to make ourselves our
Prime ourselves for the future

863
01:15:36,659 --> 01:15:41,699
development is to better quote the
conversation

864
01:15:40,199 --> 01:15:46,920
um not to say this conversation is bad I
just think overall South Bend deserves a

865
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:51,000
higher level of investment to help clean
up some of these areas I remember I was

866
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:54,659
on council at one point in time when we
were cleaning up the area where in

867
01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:59,880
Mission Park is at right now and how
that you know took

868
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:04,679
time for the grants to come in and get
it cleaned up but it was an intentional

869
01:16:01,620 --> 01:16:09,659
effort to clean up that entire area uh
it took maybe about a year year and a

870
01:16:06,420 --> 01:16:15,480
half but it happened at work and so if
the city is interested in growing uh and

871
01:16:13,199 --> 01:16:20,760
being able to recruit people in here we
have to clamp those in those areas no

872
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:25,800
matter how small or how large it is no
one wants to deal with any contamination

873
01:16:22,620 --> 01:16:29,699
in any level at any level in any area
they move away from it because it's a

874
01:16:27,780 --> 01:16:35,460
headache thank you so much for your hard
work Karen and sharing on this one and

875
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:40,860
all those who are from um that help from
maycog you know City staff Etc but it's

876
01:16:38,580 --> 01:16:45,540
a larger discussion and in order for
South Bend to return towards greatness

877
01:16:42,659 --> 01:16:49,020
those areas have to be cleaned up
thank you so much for your input and

878
01:16:47,460 --> 01:16:54,060
your comments
um duly know that for the record

879
01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:58,080
at this time I'll open it up to the
public and while we're waiting on the

880
01:16:55,980 --> 01:17:08,340
public to come up I will say if you are
here for Bill number 1123 or 1723

881
01:17:04,260 --> 01:17:13,100
or 1823 they have been tabled until May
22nd

882
01:17:09,659 --> 01:17:18,360
again 11 23
1723 and 1823 have been

883
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:23,699
tabled until May
22nd so if you are here and you are here

884
01:17:21,300 --> 01:17:28,880
for those purposes you can leave if you
will Mr Bogner Jim Bogner 807 West

885
01:17:27,300 --> 01:17:32,760
Washington Street South Bend Indiana
46601 I want to thank the city for the

886
01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:37,560
presentation and their concerns in
maycog and also the county and the folks

887
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:40,199
in government that have done this one of
the things that I did not hear this

888
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:45,000
evening
was something that concerned me deeply

889
01:17:42,420 --> 01:17:50,159
and that is been talked about at the
federal level you can go take a look at

890
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:54,020
it anywhere you pleased to with the EPA
and that is environmental justice

891
01:17:54,600 --> 01:18:01,440
contaminated sites
also the justice 40 Initiative for the

892
01:17:59,820 --> 01:18:05,280
first time in our nation's history the
federal government has made a goal that

893
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:09,360
40 percent of the overall benefits of
certain federal Investments flow to

894
01:18:07,380 --> 01:18:13,320
disadvantaged communities that are
marginalized underserved and

895
01:18:11,580 --> 01:18:17,520
overburdened by pollution
what kind of Investments fall in the

896
01:18:15,179 --> 01:18:21,480
justice 40 initiative climate change
clean energy Energy Efficiency clean

897
01:18:19,739 --> 01:18:25,500
Transit affordable and sustainable
housing training and Workforce

898
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:29,219
Development remediation and reduction of
Legacy pollution and development of

899
01:18:27,480 --> 01:18:33,960
critical Clean Water and Wastewater
infrastructure

900
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:39,840
I think there's an opportunity here
to ask Community investment and the

901
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:43,920
administration to focus a little bit
more on Justice because it has primarily

902
01:18:42,540 --> 01:18:48,840
been
the poor the disadvantaged the

903
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:54,719
African-American community that has
suffered because of this and I think

904
01:18:51,659 --> 01:18:58,920
it's time to uh say that if we are all
members of Team South Bend

905
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:03,840
there are parts of this city that don't
really need South Bend's help but there

906
01:19:01,260 --> 01:19:07,860
are other areas that do and if you've
got part of the team that needs a little

907
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:12,120
bit of help you've got to go to it
you've got to care for it

908
01:19:09,480 --> 01:19:17,159
and accepting that we have these
problems and moving forward with it is

909
01:19:15,179 --> 01:19:21,600
something that I think is critical it's
not easy for anyone to get up here and

910
01:19:18,900 --> 01:19:26,820
talk about this sometimes I think the
city would rather me just disappear

911
01:19:24,179 --> 01:19:30,659
I would like to see this area cleaned up
I think it can do a better job I'm

912
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:35,699
grateful for what has been done and for
the people who have done it

913
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:39,300
but I do think that we owe it to places
especially on the west side of this

914
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:45,420
community
to restore some honor and some dignity

915
01:19:42,739 --> 01:19:53,100
and some proper housing
and make it a much more pleasant place

916
01:19:49,980 --> 01:19:59,940
to live and it's hard we all know it's
hard but we can do it and if we really

917
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:04,080
are a team as we all say we want to be
then we've got to go to parts of the

918
01:20:01,860 --> 01:20:09,300
team that need the most help
and that's the west side I want to thank

919
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:12,900
Council for their time I know I've been
a bit of a pest I want to thank the

920
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:17,940
administration for their work it's never
been easy

921
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:22,260
but I appreciate it and I hope that out
of this we will take a look at what the

922
01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:27,239
EPA is offering we will look at more
grants we will move forward not just

923
01:20:24,540 --> 01:20:31,560
with this area but other areas on the
west side and give it the help it

924
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:34,260
deserves and I thank everybody for their
time and their energy and I appreciate

925
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:38,239
the privilege of your time and have a
good evening thank you so much

926
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:46,320
thank you for the presentation we really
appreciate it

927
01:20:43,860 --> 01:20:50,520
at this time I would like to entertain a
motion to resolve into the committee on

928
01:20:47,820 --> 01:20:53,060
the whole it's been moving second in the
role please

929
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:08,300
council member Lee
I

930
01:21:08,940 --> 01:21:14,600
I might not be able to hear you okay can
you hear me

931
01:21:18,179 --> 01:21:22,880
council member Davis
I

932
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:27,860
council member White
present

933
01:21:28,020 --> 01:21:33,739
aye
remember Thomas Morgan

934
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,739
aye

935
01:21:37,260 --> 01:21:39,260
um

936
01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:52,280
all right
again we want to announce that if you

937
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:59,280
are here for Bill
11-23 it's been tabled to May 22nd if

938
01:21:56,040 --> 01:22:08,760
you're here for Bill 17-23 it's been
tabled to May 22nd and bill 18-23 has

939
01:22:04,020 --> 01:22:11,940
been tabled to May 22nd and so now the
committee of a whole is in session this

940
01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:15,780
is the portion of the council meeting
where bills are given a second reading

941
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:19,260
and public hearing I wish to share with
you that bills that will be given a

942
01:22:17,340 --> 01:22:22,560
second reading in public hearing haven't
been given a first reading except for a

943
01:22:21,060 --> 01:22:25,980
committee meeting and public hearing
prior to this evening's meeting in

944
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:29,340
addition you will hear from the
chairperson of the committee where the

945
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:34,260
bill was discussed and the results of
their discussion if the proposed

946
01:22:31,620 --> 01:22:38,820
ordinance is a zoning ordinance a report
from staff members will be given and all

947
01:22:36,900 --> 01:22:43,040
other situations the former presentation
on the proposed ordinance will

948
01:22:41,219 --> 01:22:48,860
immediately follow the committee report
the formal presentation shall be on time

949
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:53,540
clerk Jones would you please give Bill
19-22 a second reading

950
01:22:55,739 --> 01:23:04,140
that's it
I'm sorry 1923 sorry

951
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:09,360
1923 public hearing on an ordinance of
the common Council of the city of South

952
01:23:06,780 --> 01:23:14,940
Bend Indiana approving a petition of The
Advisory Board of zoning appeals for the

953
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:21,860
property located at 506 North Olive
Street councilmanic District number two

954
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,860
in the city of South Bend Indiana

955
01:23:22,260 --> 01:23:27,380
all right
um is there a committee report

956
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:35,360
on behalf of zoning and annexation I'm
not on the committee whose device

957
01:23:38,159 --> 01:23:47,520
counselor Davis I am yes
thank you um thank you

958
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:53,159
um we uh send this bill to the full
council with a favor recommendation

959
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:57,120
to the committee on the whole
I'm sorry we send this bill to the

960
01:23:55,739 --> 01:24:02,340
Community Hall with a favorable
recommendation

961
01:23:59,699 --> 01:24:05,760
thank you okay
is the petition of President she is I

962
01:24:04,500 --> 01:24:09,719
ask that you state your name and your
address and share it with us key points

963
01:24:07,500 --> 01:24:12,360
regarding the bill that's before us good
evening Angela Smith zoning

964
01:24:11,159 --> 01:24:16,620
administrator for the city of South Bend
with offices located on the 14th floor

965
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:21,000
the petition before you this evening is
for 506 Olive Street at the corner of

966
01:24:18,540 --> 01:24:24,800
Bertrand in Olive the petitioner is
Seeking a special exception to allow for

967
01:24:23,219 --> 01:24:30,060
vehicle repair
the property has historically been Auto

968
01:24:28,020 --> 01:24:34,380
oriented it was a gas station then it
was a vehicle repair and then it was a

969
01:24:32,100 --> 01:24:38,340
car sales and now they want to legalize
it as a vehicle repair again and that's

970
01:24:36,780 --> 01:24:44,159
what the petition is here for you this
afternoon

971
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:48,659
the property itself is not proposing any
changes other than to bring up the code

972
01:24:46,199 --> 01:24:55,020
for the Landscaping so this is the
current site they would be working to

973
01:24:51,780 --> 01:24:59,820
bring up the access points to meet the
engineering standards to add a parking

974
01:24:58,199 --> 01:25:04,620
area screening buffer and to add
streetscape Landscaping the rest of the

975
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:09,060
site at this time is proposed to
essentially remain as is to allow for

976
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:12,540
the continued use as an auto repair
this comes to you from the border zoning

977
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:15,980
appeals with a favorable recommendation
and the petitioner is present

978
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:22,040
anything you'd like to share with us
well

979
01:25:22,140 --> 01:25:31,140
my name is uh Cleveland Brown I own a
506 North Olive and um

980
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:35,580
like I said this place is just a
legendary place to me

981
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:39,780
you know I probably started here at 12
years old

982
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:45,239
and then it was sold to someone else
and then here 40 years later here I am

983
01:25:42,659 --> 01:25:49,440
right back on the same corner so you
know this probably

984
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:55,320
100 people in the area and I've done a
lot of work for even a lot of people

985
01:25:51,719 --> 01:25:59,219
down here you know so I just love taking
care of the community and uh

986
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,980
keeping everybody getting back and forth
to work

987
01:26:00,300 --> 01:26:07,080
that's really what it's about you know
and then like I said earlier you know I

988
01:26:04,440 --> 01:26:11,040
like to grab a few of these kids that's
real bad and teach them something that's

989
01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:14,040
really what's wrong with some of these
kids they don't have anything to do no

990
01:26:12,900 --> 01:26:18,000
guidance
you know so give them a little bit of

991
01:26:16,260 --> 01:26:20,639
that I believe things will change in the
neighborhood

992
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:25,800
thank you
we we had extensive uh uh conversations

993
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:31,159
in the committee but council members do
you have any any questions for the

994
01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:31,159
petitioner at all

995
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:39,719
yes I do I have a question kind of a
council member Lee

996
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:46,080
go ahead
uh Mr Brown you uh stated that you

997
01:26:42,780 --> 01:26:53,760
wanted to help provide opportunity to
youth uh to learn a skill

998
01:26:50,219 --> 01:26:59,100
that's correct my question to you have
you taken that a bit further I know that

999
01:26:56,460 --> 01:27:03,500
the city uh delivers like inspired
grants and so many other things to help

1000
01:27:01,940 --> 01:27:08,580
undergird
non-profits perhaps with financial

1001
01:27:06,300 --> 01:27:12,780
backing to help
um

1002
01:27:09,300 --> 01:27:18,380
Google on the initiative to help youth I
think that because you have a space you

1003
01:27:16,260 --> 01:27:24,540
have a talent you have a skill as well
to help teach

1004
01:27:20,540 --> 01:27:29,520
and also to help give someone a job uh I
think that your conversation will be a

1005
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:33,320
natural conversation with uh maybe I
don't know if it's Marie Scott that's

1006
01:27:31,020 --> 01:27:38,340
over that program still or someone else
but since this is in front of me in

1007
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:43,739
front of us and the summer is coming and
we need our kids employed and also busy

1008
01:27:40,980 --> 01:27:46,679
doing something worthwhile uh I think
it'll probably be

1009
01:27:45,179 --> 01:27:51,360
um
um

1010
01:27:47,580 --> 01:27:55,860
a good conversation to to bring in those
who are a part to say who though who

1011
01:27:53,880 --> 01:28:00,600
does the funding for that that
particular Grant I don't know if the day

1012
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:05,820
has passed or not but to see if you can
get some of that funding to employ uh

1013
01:28:02,820 --> 01:28:10,199
some youth in your in your in your yard
okay that is correct you know so I'm not

1014
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:14,520
sure yeah those are a lot of things that
I thought about you know but I guess I

1015
01:28:12,420 --> 01:28:18,179
have to pass this stage first
I'm sure you're gonna pass this so

1016
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:22,560
that's why I'm bringing it up so I don't
know um who on the council is connected

1017
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:25,860
to that resource but
um I'm hoping that somebody on this

1018
01:28:24,179 --> 01:28:30,060
Council can help pouring him the right
direction to help help develop that

1019
01:28:28,139 --> 01:28:33,960
discussion in that conversation and
hopefully that opportunity

1020
01:28:31,980 --> 01:28:40,500
I pray to God that they do too because
this is an opportunity right here for a

1021
01:28:36,719 --> 01:28:44,699
lot of kids I mean I was a kid and I was
trained very well sent to trade school

1022
01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:48,480
and everything and it's really not that
hard

1023
01:28:46,020 --> 01:28:52,800
if I can do it anybody can do it
all right well thank you very much any

1024
01:28:51,239 --> 01:28:59,340
other council members with any questions
or statements

1025
01:28:55,800 --> 01:29:04,739
all right council member Lee yes Mr
Davis who was that uh that conduit for

1026
01:29:02,159 --> 01:29:10,380
that program it would be the second
district council person

1027
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:14,060
I'm asking for help sir so I'm asking
you who was the conduit for that program

1028
01:29:14,340 --> 01:29:23,040
are you are you talking about you said
any night grants or what what particular

1029
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:27,000
it's a are you talking about the alive
and free grants

1030
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:33,900
whoever grant that can help provide him
with the funding to help employ and

1031
01:29:30,659 --> 01:29:38,179
train a youth or use for that particular
for what he's trying to what he's going

1032
01:29:35,940 --> 01:29:38,179
after

1033
01:29:38,460 --> 01:29:46,320
oh that would probably be Community
Investments wouldn't it

1034
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:50,340
I'm not sure sir that's why I'm asking I
can't ask you that question it's a body

1035
01:29:48,540 --> 01:29:54,020
of nine people so someone has to be
answered

1036
01:29:51,540 --> 01:29:58,679
I just don't have the answers that means
we'll do we'll look into it I'll follow

1037
01:29:56,580 --> 01:30:02,960
up with uh Mr Bauer with committed
investment

1038
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,960
thank you thank you

1039
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:08,820
thank you
all right at this time we'll go to the

1040
01:30:06,900 --> 01:30:11,639
public hearing portion
um

1041
01:30:10,020 --> 01:30:16,100
Clark Jones is there anyone from the
public commission to speak in favor of

1042
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:19,500
Bill 19-22
23.

1043
01:30:17,699 --> 01:30:24,139
I looked right at it
I'm sorry

1044
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,139
I

1045
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:36,139
do have one person in the audience
okay well please state your name and

1046
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,139
address for the record

1047
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:43,860
yes uh Roosevelt Stewart 1222 Huey South
Bend Indiana 46628

1048
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:52,199
um me and uh Mr Brown uh spoke uh
previously a couple times before he has

1049
01:30:50,940 --> 01:30:56,400
a
um a business over there that he's been

1050
01:30:54,000 --> 01:31:01,860
running and also uh have a piece of
property over there as well and we we

1051
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:07,139
share both of the same interests as far
as like serving and finding something

1052
01:31:03,719 --> 01:31:12,420
for our teenage at-risk uh youth in that
area

1053
01:31:09,239 --> 01:31:16,739
um I serviced that building uh prior
before you got there as far as like

1054
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:21,719
painting and uh things of that nature we
had youth kind of watching

1055
01:31:19,199 --> 01:31:26,280
um so I'm in support of in support of
him and uh as far as like the funding

1056
01:31:23,820 --> 01:31:29,880
into uh I think that he should be led to
directing

1057
01:31:27,659 --> 01:31:34,380
um to finding those resources so he can
uh get that Vision off the ground so I'm

1058
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:39,320
in support of that all right thank you
very much appreciate it

1059
01:31:36,300 --> 01:31:39,320
anyone else

1060
01:31:39,420 --> 01:31:48,139
Clark Jones is there anyone uh wishing
to speak in opposition

1061
01:31:44,460 --> 01:31:48,139
looking to see if there's any

1062
01:31:50,460 --> 01:31:59,699
nope I don't see anyone wishing to speak
in opposition of the spirit okay

1063
01:31:56,280 --> 01:32:03,659
um well at this point the public hearing
on Bill 19-23

1064
01:32:03,780 --> 01:32:12,659
is now closed uh council members would
you like to make any statements

1065
01:32:09,480 --> 01:32:17,880
yes just want to uh thank you for all
your efforts it's always wonderful when

1066
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:22,080
you have a business that's not only well
obviously the purpose of a business is

1067
01:32:19,679 --> 01:32:25,980
to make money and support you and your
family so it's nice when you have a

1068
01:32:24,540 --> 01:32:29,699
business owner that's looking beyond
that and trying to see how we could lift

1069
01:32:27,300 --> 01:32:32,520
up other people's along the way so thank
you for that

1070
01:32:30,780 --> 01:32:37,739
thank you I just want to say I've been
known to you and the family for a long

1071
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:42,540
time and thank you for your hard work
and giving back to the community you

1072
01:32:40,440 --> 01:32:48,120
know we grew up on that side of town and
so a lot of service in our vehicles so

1073
01:32:45,780 --> 01:32:52,520
thank you to you and your family for all
of the hard work you have done and

1074
01:32:49,860 --> 01:32:52,520
what's to come

1075
01:32:56,659 --> 01:33:03,420
continued efforts in the community and
um this will help up with the

1076
01:33:01,620 --> 01:33:08,760
neighborhood as you had spoken earlier
as well as helping our youth so you know

1077
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:12,659
I'm I'm a for sure yes on this when we
vote on it

1078
01:33:10,679 --> 01:33:19,080
and I would just like to say that uh
five generations of Browns have been

1079
01:33:15,420 --> 01:33:21,000
fixing cars and doing repairs in this
city

1080
01:33:20,159 --> 01:33:27,600
um
we've had experiences as uh with our

1081
01:33:24,659 --> 01:33:32,100
snowplow truck for the church Mr Brown
fixed the transmission on it and when it

1082
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:38,400
when it wasn't quite right he went back
and fixed it again and got it right so I

1083
01:33:36,060 --> 01:33:43,139
am very much in support of of you and
your entrepreneurial spirit and not only

1084
01:33:40,500 --> 01:33:47,280
that but your your vision to do
something to help the kids that area on

1085
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:53,580
Olive and Bertrand is a very troubled
area with some troubled spots and

1086
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:57,120
hopefully this will be a place of hope
um in that neighborhood well can I say

1087
01:33:56,040 --> 01:34:02,699
one thing
I'm from that area yeah I grew up right

1088
01:34:00,179 --> 01:34:09,000
there in between Lincolnway and Western
and it is real bad there but

1089
01:34:05,940 --> 01:34:14,100
I'm not scared you know not scared at
all you know and

1090
01:34:11,219 --> 01:34:19,739
everybody that comes by there every kid
that comes by there instead of just I

1091
01:34:18,060 --> 01:34:23,820
mean attacking them
you just talk to him and teach because

1092
01:34:22,260 --> 01:34:28,260
that's what's wrong in this community
the teaching has stopped that's right

1093
01:34:26,219 --> 01:34:33,480
you know and it's got to start back up
or we're gonna never have control of the

1094
01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:39,920
youngsters again ever that's right and
mentors are important

1095
01:34:35,719 --> 01:34:39,920
councilwoman Thomas Morgan

1096
01:34:39,980 --> 01:34:49,620
I think everything has been said I just
thank you for your investment and

1097
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:52,679
continued work and investment in in our
city and with the youth that you do

1098
01:34:51,300 --> 01:34:57,780
thank you
that's right I was just like to I think

1099
01:34:55,260 --> 01:35:04,020
we go way back I'll I don't I'm not
gonna say how long with the butt uh your

1100
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:09,420
father grandfather I know okay uh but I
would like to thank you for the point of

1101
01:35:06,239 --> 01:35:14,100
wisdom that you just shared that they
just need someone to talk with them to

1102
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:18,719
listen give them opportunity because all
of us we've been given opportunities and

1103
01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:26,520
we would not be where we're at now
without having someone who's willing to

1104
01:35:22,020 --> 01:35:31,159
invest and pour into us and show us that
there's a better way so I really really

1105
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:35,480
appreciate and I know that your family
they're smiling on you at this time

1106
01:35:35,820 --> 01:35:45,360
all right we'll go to our online people
before well we'll do that okay uh Mr

1107
01:35:42,540 --> 01:35:49,380
Bowers came up and answer well I just
want to say thank you Mr Brown and to

1108
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:53,219
address uh councilmember Davis
um I I think Mr Brown Angela hopefully

1109
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:57,780
already shared with this with you at
committee but uh vibrant places is our

1110
01:35:56,100 --> 01:36:03,360
matching grant program for business
owners so as far as making those

1111
01:36:00,239 --> 01:36:06,600
improvements to your parking lot adding
that barrier

1112
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:11,100
um it's a matching grant program so it
can match 50 percent uh of those

1113
01:36:08,940 --> 01:36:16,440
Investments so what just encourage that
that's one option for business owners we

1114
01:36:14,219 --> 01:36:21,840
did recently expand that program so it's
a city-wide eligibility for locally

1115
01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:25,260
owned businesses to to get those
matching funds so we'll make sure you

1116
01:36:23,639 --> 01:36:30,120
have the link in we can work on that
thank you appreciate it

1117
01:36:26,940 --> 01:36:36,300
we see um councilmatory Warner is with
us would you like to have anything or

1118
01:36:34,500 --> 01:36:40,860
I think everything has been said thank
you

1119
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:46,320
and Mr Davis any any last statements
yeah I think Caleb had it wrong he was

1120
01:36:43,679 --> 01:36:51,480
asking about and I could be wrong but he
he was saying something about a matching

1121
01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:56,699
Grant uh for a facade and parking lot
Etc that wasn't the conversation the

1122
01:36:54,659 --> 01:37:01,800
conversation was about the ignite grant
that many non-profits get to help

1123
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:07,020
deliver Youth Services
my question was

1124
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:11,520
is or can he be eligible for that same
type of Grant if he's talking about

1125
01:37:08,340 --> 01:37:17,040
employing youth that's basically what
those grants are meant for whether

1126
01:37:14,100 --> 01:37:21,900
services or is meant for
uh um payment right and so that's what I

1127
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:27,139
that that's the conversation I was
trying to help undergird him with what

1128
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:32,040
he would need to make good on his dream
if those resources are available that is

1129
01:37:30,420 --> 01:37:36,480
my question
it wasn't about a facade Grant it wasn't

1130
01:37:34,380 --> 01:37:41,000
about anything matching
okay all right thank you

1131
01:37:41,580 --> 01:37:48,420
all right well I would not entertain a
motion regarding bill 19-23

1132
01:37:46,860 --> 01:37:51,960
let's attended to the full council with
the favorable recommendation second

1133
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:56,159
there's been a motion in the second
clerk Jones please call the roll council

1134
01:37:54,540 --> 01:37:59,900
member Lee
aye council member Warner

1135
01:38:02,820 --> 01:38:08,760
council member Warner
yourself

1136
01:38:13,020 --> 01:38:19,620
all right
okay council member wax

1137
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:24,120
aye council member white
aye council member Thomas Morgan

1138
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:28,980
aye
vice president

1139
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:32,880
aye council member Davis
before I deliver my vote again I'm not

1140
01:38:31,260 --> 01:38:36,540
sure if we're clear on what I was asking
for so are we going to move forward or

1141
01:38:34,980 --> 01:38:40,620
is somebody going to figure that out or
is that is that available I mean Mr

1142
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:45,420
Davis hold on one second
uh president McBride said that she would

1143
01:38:43,199 --> 01:38:48,480
check to make sure okay
okay

1144
01:38:46,159 --> 01:38:53,219
she said she would check to make sure
that she had the right

1145
01:38:50,159 --> 01:38:58,739
my my answer is I thank you Mr Lee okay
well we wanted to make sure

1146
01:38:56,219 --> 01:39:02,940
on the boat uh state law requires that
Mr Davis's camera be activated to be

1147
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:05,360
able to vote
that's true

1148
01:39:10,639 --> 01:39:17,600
Mr Davis there can you please turn your
camera on to vote please

1149
01:39:23,179 --> 01:39:32,239
is it on because I don't see it it's on
but you might want to tilt it a little

1150
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:32,239
bit so we can see your face

1151
01:39:37,020 --> 01:39:46,460
yeah great you want me to say I again
yes yes Mr Warner aye Mr Warner thank

1152
01:39:43,739 --> 01:39:46,460
you Mr Warner

1153
01:39:47,159 --> 01:39:52,380
that's just what this thing all requires
I didn't write it okay we have eight

1154
01:39:51,420 --> 01:39:55,679
eyes
all right thank you

1155
01:39:54,360 --> 01:40:00,300
um
it will be sent to full Council council

1156
01:39:58,020 --> 01:40:03,540
with a favorable recommendation I will
now entertain a motion to rise from the

1157
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:07,980
committee of the hold and report back to
the full Council

1158
01:40:05,060 --> 01:40:10,940
it's been moved in second Clark Jones
please call the roll

1159
01:40:16,739 --> 01:40:19,940
council member Warner

1160
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:36,420
aye council member Davis
I

1161
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:40,199
gotta turn your camera on
it is on

1162
01:40:38,820 --> 01:40:44,760
the salon
council member Lee

1163
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:48,239
aye president McBride
aye

1164
01:40:46,260 --> 01:40:51,260
all right
motion carries

1165
01:40:56,280 --> 01:41:02,580
the full council is back in session this
portion of our meeting is where bills

1166
01:41:00,719 --> 01:41:05,820
are given a third reading and action is
taken regarding bills that were heard

1167
01:41:04,020 --> 01:41:10,820
during the committee of the whole clerk
Jones will you give Bill 1923 a third

1168
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,820
reading

1169
01:41:13,860 --> 01:41:22,320
South Bend Indiana approving a petition
of The Advisory Board of zoning appeals

1170
01:41:19,020 --> 01:41:26,820
for the property located at 506 North
Olive Street Council Manning District

1171
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:30,600
number two in the city of South Bend
Indiana thank you council is their

1172
01:41:29,219 --> 01:41:36,239
recommendation from the committee of the
whole regarding Bill 1923 yeah Bill 19

1173
01:41:33,900 --> 01:41:40,320
23 Was Heard and the committee of the
whole and it comes to the full council

1174
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:45,080
with the favorable recommendation I will
now entertain a motion regarding Bill

1175
01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:45,080
1923

1176
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:55,040
second it's been moving second and clerk
Jones the role please

1177
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:10,280
vice president
aye council member Davis

1178
01:42:07,679 --> 01:42:10,280
I

1179
01:42:11,219 --> 01:42:16,560
council member Lee
aye

1180
01:42:14,460 --> 01:42:19,860
council member Warner
aye president McBride

1181
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:25,139
aye
thank you Bill 1923 has been adopted

1182
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:28,860
resolutions this is the portion of the
council meeting where the common Council

1183
01:42:26,460 --> 01:42:33,119
here bills filed as proposed resolutions
the title of each proposed resolution is

1184
01:42:31,020 --> 01:42:36,119
read by the city clerk a report from the
committee chairperson of the stand

1185
01:42:34,500 --> 01:42:40,920
committee to which the bill is referred
to for an advisory review and

1186
01:42:38,699 --> 01:42:44,159
recommendation is then given during the
public portion on each proposed

1187
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:47,520
resolution members of the public are
invited to address the council we ask

1188
01:42:46,260 --> 01:42:51,060
that you please give your name address
and comment on the bill if you have any

1189
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:56,400
questions they will be addressed by the
presenter during their rebuttal each

1190
01:42:53,760 --> 01:43:00,119
member of the public is limited to five
minutes with those speaking in favor

1191
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:03,719
going first followed by those in
opposition then a five-minute rebuttal

1192
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:08,420
for the presenter of the bill Clark
Jones will you please give bill

1193
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:13,100
23-21 of first reading
23-21 a resolution of the common Council

1194
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:17,699
of the city of South Bend Indiana
designating certain areas within the

1195
01:43:15,659 --> 01:43:24,540
city of South Bend Indiana commonly
known as 3201 West Calvert Street South

1196
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:29,820
Bend 46613 and economic revitalization
area for purposes of a five-year

1197
01:43:27,239 --> 01:43:34,260
personal property tax abatement for
verbio North America LLC

1198
01:43:34,380 --> 01:43:40,520
thank you councilor White
I would make a motion if I can that

1199
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:47,940
resolution
23-21 and 23-22 be heard together for

1200
01:43:45,480 --> 01:43:53,040
purposes only for the public hearing
second

1201
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:55,800
Dr Jones if you call the road please yes
councilmember white

1202
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:58,520
aye
council member told my

1203
01:43:58,679 --> 01:44:07,080
aye Council council member nasty
aye our vice president

1204
01:44:04,340 --> 01:44:09,900
council member Davis
aye

1205
01:44:07,980 --> 01:44:13,219
council member Lee
aye council member Warner

1206
01:44:13,440 --> 01:44:15,440
aye

1207
01:44:20,219 --> 01:44:29,159
okay council member wax
aye president McBride aye

1208
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:32,940
thank you clerk Jones could you read
resolution 23-22

1209
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:42,119
23-22 a resolution
yes we just have a comment in the in the

1210
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:45,619
chat if the clerk could speak directly
into the microphone her microphone is

1211
01:44:44,340 --> 01:44:50,639
not on
so because I'm right here so I don't

1212
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:54,080
know if you wanna what can you save one
of these chords will reach

1213
01:44:55,020 --> 01:44:58,820
thank you so much oh good idea

1214
01:45:06,440 --> 01:45:13,500
23-22 a resolution of the common Council
the city of South Bend Indiana

1215
01:45:11,060 --> 01:45:19,159
designating certain areas within the
city of South Bend Indiana commonly

1216
01:45:15,719 --> 01:45:22,580
known as 3201
3201 West Calvert Street South Bend

1217
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:28,679
Indiana
46613 an economic revitalization area

1218
01:45:26,159 --> 01:45:34,320
for purposes of an eight-year real
property tax abatement proverbial North

1219
01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:38,699
America LLC thank you you can take it
with me reaches yes thank you so much

1220
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:41,520
please state your name and address for
the record

1221
01:45:39,780 --> 01:45:44,940
Eric Lovich director of growth and
opportunity within the Department of

1222
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:49,800
Community investment with offices on the
14th floor of this building thank you

1223
01:45:48,179 --> 01:45:54,000
Council before you for your
consideration is a package of two

1224
01:45:52,199 --> 01:45:59,699
declaratory resolutions for tax
abatement for a company named for Bio

1225
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:04,260
North America LLC verbio has purchased
South Bend ethanol the facility out on

1226
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:10,619
West Calvert Street and we'll be
investing over 230 million dollars into

1227
01:46:07,619 --> 01:46:14,719
the facility to upgrade the current
process of ethanol production and also

1228
01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:21,780
to
create new renewable natural gas quite

1229
01:46:18,780 --> 01:46:26,639
an investment over 215 million dollars
in new personal property will be

1230
01:46:24,300 --> 01:46:29,940
installed on the property thus you'll
for this is the reason why there are two

1231
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:36,179
separate abatements for your
consideration

1232
01:46:31,100 --> 01:46:40,080
for Bio North North America LLC will is
applying for two separate abatements the

1233
01:46:38,460 --> 01:46:46,500
first is a five-year personal property
tax abatement listed on your screen you

1234
01:46:43,440 --> 01:46:51,000
will see examples of the manufacturing
equipment that would be eligible for a

1235
01:46:49,139 --> 01:46:56,280
personal property tax abatement and as I
mentioned

1236
01:46:52,040 --> 01:47:01,920
about 220 million dollars total in new
equipment and soft software will be

1237
01:46:59,060 --> 01:47:07,860
installed onto the property
through this investment for Bio North

1238
01:47:05,460 --> 01:47:14,159
America will retain all of the current
jobs at the facility and within 12

1239
01:47:11,820 --> 01:47:19,920
months we'll have create new we'll
create new eight brand new jobs high

1240
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:24,239
paying jobs Engineers
um you know roughly making you know

1241
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:30,360
approximately a hundred thousand dollars
per position

1242
01:47:26,719 --> 01:47:35,159
on your screen you'll see the um kind of
the numbers related to the personal

1243
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:40,040
property tax abatement one thing to
point out that there is current personal

1244
01:47:37,020 --> 01:47:45,480
property on the property which pays
property tax so the new equipment will

1245
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:51,360
be on top of that what you can see is
that just based on our estimates we're

1246
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:55,580
looking at total estimated taxes during
the abatement upwards to about 20

1247
01:47:53,880 --> 01:48:03,780
million dollars
19.2 roughly and a good portion of that

1248
01:47:59,460 --> 01:48:08,460
would be a beta overall we expect verbio
to pay about three and a half million

1249
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:13,679
dollars in new taxes over this five-year
period on the screen you can see that

1250
01:48:10,739 --> 01:48:17,880
we're looking at by year 10 between year
six and ten after the abatement expires

1251
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:21,600
that they would pay roughly 11 million
dollars in new taxes again this is new

1252
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:25,520
taxes on top of what's already being
paid

1253
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,520
um

1254
01:48:25,860 --> 01:48:33,800
that's just as you look this is the
abatement schedule and the estimates

1255
01:48:30,239 --> 01:48:40,619
that we've provided through our analysis
shifting shifting gears now to the real

1256
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:46,380
property so in order for them to make
this investment they will have to build

1257
01:48:43,260 --> 01:48:50,280
an estimated 10 new buildings on the
property totaling about sixty thousand

1258
01:48:48,179 --> 01:48:55,920
square feet their investment in building
these this real property is about 11

1259
01:48:52,739 --> 01:48:59,880
million dollars they qualify they would
qualify for an eight-year property tax

1260
01:48:57,900 --> 01:49:04,199
abatement which is what we're presenting
for your consideration

1261
01:49:01,699 --> 01:49:08,880
current taxes on the property this is
real property taxes not prop not

1262
01:49:06,420 --> 01:49:15,239
personal property taxes or about 150 000
per year with an 11 million dollar

1263
01:49:12,060 --> 01:49:19,800
investment we anticipate that the taxes
filing completion of the project would

1264
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:24,420
increase about three hundred thousand
dollars per year

1265
01:49:21,500 --> 01:49:28,560
the first year alone first year of the
abatement alone with the abatement in

1266
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:33,360
place they would still pay sixty five
thousand dollars more that first year

1267
01:49:30,780 --> 01:49:36,020
than they currently than what the city
is currently receiving through the

1268
01:49:34,980 --> 01:49:41,040
property
again you can see the numbers on your

1269
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:45,960
screen estimate during the life of the
abatement we estimate about 3.6 million

1270
01:49:43,139 --> 01:49:51,000
dollars in estimated taxes out of that
amount roughly eight hundred thousand

1271
01:49:48,060 --> 01:49:55,380
dollars would be abated again these are
it's a significant investment in a

1272
01:49:53,820 --> 01:50:00,239
property on the west side of town that
we're very excited about

1273
01:49:56,780 --> 01:50:04,880
and the president of verbio North
America LLC is here he would like to say

1274
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:10,699
a few words
provides a presentation and answer

1275
01:50:07,500 --> 01:50:10,699
questions related to the project

1276
01:50:16,739 --> 01:50:23,520
a good evening while we're getting the
logistics going my name is Greg Northrup

1277
01:50:20,940 --> 01:50:27,000
I live in Grand Rapids Michigan but I'm
happy to be in South Bend tonight

1278
01:50:25,020 --> 01:50:32,340
talking to you the members of the
council this is a truly a

1279
01:50:30,179 --> 01:50:36,060
wonderful time for our company hopefully
after I get done with this presentation

1280
01:50:34,199 --> 01:50:41,460
you'll agree with me it's a wonderful
investment for the city of South Bend

1281
01:50:39,179 --> 01:50:45,659
and as I alluded to earlier this
afternoon it's an important part of our

1282
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:50,280
overall energy strategy here in the
United States as we develop Renewables

1283
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:54,360
to mix our diverse our diversity of
supply and so I walk first of all I want

1284
01:50:52,739 --> 01:50:58,679
to thank the city staff for their
support we've been in conversation with

1285
01:50:56,040 --> 01:51:02,460
them since early March to talk about
this investment we've been in a due

1286
01:51:00,780 --> 01:51:08,100
diligence stage on potentially
purchasing this site above for the last

1287
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:13,260
six months and what I'll tell you before
I get into the details of Hoover bio is

1288
01:51:11,699 --> 01:51:18,000
and a little bit of background
is there's over 200 ethanol plants in

1289
01:51:16,500 --> 01:51:21,780
the United States today that are
operating that could be potential

1290
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:25,800
locations for us to do what we're
proposing to do here in South Bend

1291
01:51:24,119 --> 01:51:29,639
and we've spent time looking at those
those opportunities in other states in

1292
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:33,719
other locations
and and we will continue to do that

1293
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:37,500
because our plan is to build out
multiple facilities here in the United

1294
01:51:35,340 --> 01:51:42,659
States as part of our process
we debated uh it's about South Bend

1295
01:51:40,260 --> 01:51:46,860
internally a number of times as to
whether this is the right decision for

1296
01:51:44,219 --> 01:51:50,159
us to make at this point in time
yeah and as you can imagine based on the

1297
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:54,719
amount of money that we're proposing to
spend this was not an easy decision for

1298
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:59,400
us to make without having given good
thought to why it is that we're doing it

1299
01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:03,060
uh the long and short of it is
um I would suggest you if we're not

1300
01:52:01,260 --> 01:52:07,159
making this decision this community
could be looking at a plant that would

1301
01:52:04,619 --> 01:52:07,159
be closed

1302
01:52:07,199 --> 01:52:13,320
um and but for the investment that we
will be making we can change that

1303
01:52:10,739 --> 01:52:17,159
scenario so that in fact we will have a
plant that will be successfully

1304
01:52:14,639 --> 01:52:22,199
operating not only making ethanol as it
does today but making renewable natural

1305
01:52:19,260 --> 01:52:29,940
gas and with that Foundation let me just
do a quick recap for you

1306
01:52:25,020 --> 01:52:33,840
as the Hoover bio is I have happily am
the first employee that was hired in the

1307
01:52:31,980 --> 01:52:40,159
United States to run the bio North
American operations our company verbio

1308
01:52:37,020 --> 01:52:45,360
has been in operation for over 25 years
our CEO and founder is a grower

1309
01:52:43,980 --> 01:52:50,760
a person that's been involved in
agriculture and so when you listen to me

1310
01:52:47,219 --> 01:52:54,360
talk about our commitment to Ag and eggs
piece of the equation here you can

1311
01:52:52,860 --> 01:52:59,940
understand our background and our
commitment to using AG residues as part

1312
01:52:56,820 --> 01:53:04,500
of a process it's not food it's AG
residues that we're using to make

1313
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:08,460
renewable energy so that history comes
with us as part of our long-term

1314
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:13,860
background we're
located in a number of countries we have

1315
01:53:11,219 --> 01:53:18,900
a rice straw product a rice straw
project in India same thing waste stream

1316
01:53:17,460 --> 01:53:22,860
that's being used to make renewable
natural gas there we own a plant in

1317
01:53:21,179 --> 01:53:29,760
Nevada Iowa which I'll show you a
picture of here that the began operation

1318
01:53:25,500 --> 01:53:34,080
in 2021 making renewable natural gas in
the fourth quarter of this year we will

1319
01:53:31,139 --> 01:53:38,699
start making a renewable ethanol at the
same site and using that ethanol output

1320
01:53:36,659 --> 01:53:44,699
to actually make more renewable layers
gas at that site the same thing we're

1321
01:53:40,739 --> 01:53:49,080
proposing to do here in South Bend
we're a one billion dollar company in

1322
01:53:47,340 --> 01:53:52,920
terms of sales when I started with this
group five years ago we had 500

1323
01:53:51,659 --> 01:53:57,060
employees
today we have a thousand

1324
01:53:54,840 --> 01:54:01,500
in in Nevada we have close to 100
employees in South Bend I'm happy to

1325
01:53:59,340 --> 01:54:07,320
report as Eric alluded to that we will
retain 61 of the current employees and

1326
01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:11,520
we will add a date additional positions
over the course of the next six 12

1327
01:54:08,820 --> 01:54:16,380
months in professional positions uh
additional resources for us as it

1328
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:22,260
relates to engineers and what you'll
learn as you look more into Barbara bios

1329
01:54:18,540 --> 01:54:27,060
history our strength is our technology
we have our own internal engineering

1330
01:54:24,540 --> 01:54:31,320
capability we're very protective of our
proprietary information we do things

1331
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:35,940
that have made us very successful as a
company and made us learn how to operate

1332
01:54:33,300 --> 01:54:40,380
in renewable energy industry if you look
at the industry and read some of the

1333
01:54:38,100 --> 01:54:45,659
Tales there's a lot of things that
haven't happened very well in Renewables

1334
01:54:42,119 --> 01:54:49,440
and so I'm very cautious about what I
say and what we do in the sense of

1335
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:54,780
making sure that we actually walk our
talk and so we've done that and I'm

1336
01:54:52,980 --> 01:54:59,159
proud to represent the company here
today we're the largest producer

1337
01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:03,179
biomethane or renewable natural gas
we're also in the ethanol business and

1338
01:55:01,020 --> 01:55:07,920
we're in the biodiesel business so we
understand all facets of the renewable

1339
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:12,600
energy business as it relates to this
project I'll point out to you and just

1340
01:55:11,100 --> 01:55:21,119
to give some data in the lower right
hand corner it says 35 3.5 million mmcf

1341
01:55:18,060 --> 01:55:26,460
of natural gas at this site when it's
fully developed we will make 2.8 million

1342
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:31,679
mmcf or almost as much as we currently
make it also and there's a later slide

1343
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:35,460
that I'll show you that's equal to about
one or two percent of the total natural

1344
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:40,199
gas that's used in the state of Iowa on
an annual basis so while one or two

1345
01:55:38,159 --> 01:55:43,980
percent that might seem like a lot it's
coming from a waste stream that we're

1346
01:55:42,420 --> 01:55:47,040
adding to the mix of product that
actually can be used here in the state

1347
01:55:45,540 --> 01:55:50,040
or elsewhere in the country for that
matter

1348
01:55:48,119 --> 01:55:55,320
so these are the locations for other
facilities one of the things I'll

1349
01:55:52,699 --> 01:56:00,179
reinforce that I I think I alluded to
earlier today we're self-funded

1350
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:05,940
so we're using internal cash flows to
make these Investments we're not seeking

1351
01:56:02,460 --> 01:56:10,679
government grants or loans as a way to
back up our project we believe in what

1352
01:56:07,679 --> 01:56:14,760
we do and for that reason we've been
slow to expand but I hope to to see

1353
01:56:13,020 --> 01:56:18,000
accelerations in that growth in South
Bend is another step along the way for

1354
01:56:16,679 --> 01:56:22,619
us
this is uh we don't have enough time

1355
01:56:19,860 --> 01:56:27,480
tonight but what this intend is to do is
to show you that everything we do is in

1356
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:32,699
a closed loop process so we take
materials in we process those materials

1357
01:56:30,659 --> 01:56:35,639
we reuse them in other portions of the
plant so I'll tell you in a minute Bob

1358
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:39,600
what we're going to do with stillage
which is the waste stream from ethanol

1359
01:56:37,619 --> 01:56:43,440
but we take those products and when we
get all done in Nevada for example we

1360
01:56:41,820 --> 01:56:47,460
make what's called hummus
and basically it's a compost type

1361
01:56:45,300 --> 01:56:51,420
material so we take the corn Stover that
we put in there to our anaerobic

1362
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:55,800
digestion process when we're done
removing the carbon to make methane we

1363
01:56:54,060 --> 01:56:59,460
end up with a compost type material this
returns of the land

1364
01:56:57,239 --> 01:57:03,300
and we return phosphates and nitrogenes
back to the soil so we have a great

1365
01:57:01,380 --> 01:57:06,960
relationship with Growers we're helping
them with a revenue stream for their

1366
01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:10,980
corn Stover and then we're helping them
with a soil amendment on the backside of

1367
01:57:09,060 --> 01:57:14,219
our process so everything is closed loop
in terms of what we're doing

1368
01:57:12,420 --> 01:57:17,699
we have a great relationship here in
South Bend thanks to the work of the

1369
01:57:15,780 --> 01:57:22,139
prior management with the growers in
this area and I think the feedback I've

1370
01:57:19,380 --> 01:57:25,800
gotten has been wow this is going to be
great because I can tell you what the

1371
01:57:24,060 --> 01:57:29,340
Growers had concerns about whether they
were still going to have a revenue

1372
01:57:26,699 --> 01:57:34,080
stream as it relates to Corn sales for
this facility

1373
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:38,280
this is our largest facility it's in
svet Germany

1374
01:57:35,460 --> 01:57:43,020
and I say that as as well as the Germans
would pronounce it so trust me

1375
01:57:40,340 --> 01:57:47,880
on the left hand side you'll see where
it's biomethane the large tanks there

1376
01:57:45,540 --> 01:57:52,679
are in Aerobic digestion tanks what
happens material goes in there it's an

1377
01:57:49,980 --> 01:57:58,980
airtight oxygen no action environment
and that's what allows the bugs inside

1378
01:57:55,040 --> 01:58:04,260
to process the materials into myomethane
no different than what a cow does in

1379
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:08,340
terms of when their processing materials
through their system but similar in the

1380
01:58:06,300 --> 01:58:11,820
concept except we do it one tank instead
of seven stomachs so we're a little bit

1381
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:17,460
more efficient from that standpoint
this site also has the biodiesel and the

1382
01:58:15,719 --> 01:58:24,300
bioethanol as you'll see at the top and
we integrate the ethanol and the bio

1383
01:58:20,900 --> 01:58:28,320
methane at this location we do the same
thing in zorbic

1384
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:33,060
methane and ethanol coming together so
what's different about what we're doing

1385
01:58:30,179 --> 01:58:37,380
in a traditional ethanol plant
they make ethanol in the case of this

1386
01:58:35,159 --> 01:58:42,000
location we hope to make 85 million
gallons of ethanol we don't currently do

1387
01:58:39,119 --> 01:58:45,840
it at that level but that's the plan and
if we're really successful we will make

1388
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:49,980
more down the road but at this point my
commitment is to get us back to the

1389
01:58:47,820 --> 01:58:53,880
design level of the plant which is 85
million they produce a waste stream

1390
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:58,260
which is called stillage
typically the steel age is turned into

1391
01:58:55,920 --> 01:59:02,960
what's called dry distillers grains and
that's used as a feed feedment

1392
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:08,880
supplement for cattle or other animals
to make it dry obviously as the name in

1393
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:12,540
in Furs you have to heat it up and you
dry it you spend energy drying it to

1394
01:59:11,099 --> 01:59:16,080
make this material that we give best
feed what are we gonna we're gonna take

1395
01:59:14,639 --> 01:59:20,520
the steelage
and that becomes a feedstock for our

1396
01:59:18,300 --> 01:59:24,480
anaerobic digestion process so in the
large tanks that you see the stillage

1397
01:59:22,860 --> 01:59:29,699
will go from the ethanol production into
the large tanks to make more renewable

1398
01:59:26,639 --> 01:59:33,780
natural gas or more methane so we're
basically reusing that waste stream in a

1399
01:59:32,340 --> 01:59:37,320
way that's much more effective in the
sense that we're reducing the energy

1400
01:59:34,980 --> 01:59:40,619
consumption that's required and at the
same time creating a product that we

1401
01:59:39,119 --> 01:59:45,960
need as it relates to the diversity of
Supply as renewable natural gas

1402
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:48,780
this is our facility in Nevada guess
what it looks just like the other

1403
01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:52,619
facilities
because we apply the same design

1404
01:59:50,520 --> 01:59:56,219
techniques the same strategies for what
we're doing here in the U.S as what

1405
01:59:54,719 --> 02:00:00,360
we've been doing in Germany for the last
10 to 15 years with the same processes

1406
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:03,659
this is not new technology
this is what we've been doing

1407
02:00:01,639 --> 02:00:07,679
successfully and now we're bringing that
process to the United States and

1408
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:11,760
replicating here what makes us different
is your ethanol plant will now become a

1409
02:00:10,199 --> 02:00:15,300
biorefinery
instead of just making ethanol you'll

1410
02:00:13,739 --> 02:00:19,440
make renewable natural gas as part of
the production process

1411
02:00:16,980 --> 02:00:22,260
oh and like as I say it looks exactly
the same there's one less tank here

1412
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:26,940
because I took this picture in a sunny
day there's actually 16 tanks as we're

1413
02:00:25,260 --> 02:00:31,380
proposing for this site which I'll show
you in a minute

1414
02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:34,619
so this is the existing site in South
Bend

1415
02:00:32,219 --> 02:00:39,780
to the west of the site there's vacant
area there and so on the left hand side

1416
02:00:37,500 --> 02:00:44,460
of the slide where you see the 16 blue
dots those are the anaerobic digestion

1417
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:49,380
tanks that we're going to put in to make
renewable natural gas at this site

1418
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:52,980
below that are a series of buildings and
so when Eric talked about 10 buildings

1419
02:00:51,540 --> 02:00:55,920
that we're building you can see a lot of
these square boxes represent new

1420
02:00:54,599 --> 02:01:00,659
buildings that will be part of our
construction process but there are

1421
02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:06,060
things to do like removing sulfur carbon
dioxide getting gas up to pressure when

1422
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:10,199
we inject into the system the natural
gas system that's owned by Nesco we have

1423
02:01:08,580 --> 02:01:15,300
to increase the pressure to be able to
put it into their pipeline another

1424
02:01:12,540 --> 02:01:19,800
caveat so you understand this when we
make upgraded renewable natural gas it

1425
02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:22,739
has to look exactly like fossil Nitric
gas

1426
02:01:20,639 --> 02:01:26,280
because when we inject a molecule into
the pipeline that goes into the

1427
02:01:24,239 --> 02:01:29,940
distribution system for Indiana and the
rest of this country that molecule has

1428
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:35,040
to look exactly the same so when it
comes to your home to be used in your

1429
02:01:32,460 --> 02:01:38,820
furnace or your water heater the water
heater wants to make sure I'm getting

1430
02:01:36,780 --> 02:01:42,840
the product I'm supposed to get so our
product has to look exactly like the

1431
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:46,380
product that's being used as a fossil
based product in the rest of the U.S

1432
02:01:44,340 --> 02:01:50,460
natural gas system okay which means
we're held to a very high standard

1433
02:01:47,820 --> 02:01:54,000
because the utilities won't last inject
unless we meet their requirements and I

1434
02:01:52,500 --> 02:01:57,960
can tell you there's lots of testing
equipment and measuring equipment to

1435
02:01:55,679 --> 02:02:03,480
make sure we do exactly what we said
there's uh we'll be making fertilizer at

1436
02:02:01,380 --> 02:02:08,699
this site for uh resale back to our
Growers as partners

1437
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:11,760
hummus which I mentioned was the waste
product that will go back as a soil

1438
02:02:10,500 --> 02:02:14,940
amendment
um

1439
02:02:12,540 --> 02:02:22,560
and so and then the recycle one other
point we we recycle all of our water

1440
02:02:19,619 --> 02:02:26,099
again continuous loop we're not pulling
new water sources from the city or from

1441
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:29,880
the wells we're going to continue to use
so basically the water requirement will

1442
02:02:28,199 --> 02:02:34,380
not change significantly from where it
is I'm not familiar with this but

1443
02:02:32,460 --> 02:02:38,820
apparently this the operation of the
plant has been helpful to the city as it

1444
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:42,980
relates to water issues potentially in
that area and so I think for a benefit

1445
02:02:41,340 --> 02:02:47,760
to the community
at the same time as a result of that

1446
02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:51,780
this is that slide I talked about where
the line represents the amount of gas

1447
02:02:50,099 --> 02:02:55,260
that's used in the state of Indiana on
an annual basis and up in the corner

1448
02:02:53,820 --> 02:02:59,880
there is the amount that we will produce
at the facility so you get a sense of

1449
02:02:57,900 --> 02:03:03,780
how much gas you actually use here how
much are we going to make as part of our

1450
02:03:01,739 --> 02:03:07,380
production process and while it doesn't
seem like a big number it is a big

1451
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:13,400
number in the sense of the amount that
we're producing at the scale that we're

1452
02:03:09,540 --> 02:03:13,400
doing using waste streams to do this

1453
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:22,980
so 230 million dollars of new investment
85 million gallons of continued ethanol

1454
02:03:20,099 --> 02:03:28,080
production the good news for us is we
have a really well-trained Workforce and

1455
02:03:25,380 --> 02:03:32,460
we're gonna we took over on May 1st we
had a team of people here meeting with

1456
02:03:29,880 --> 02:03:37,679
all of the employees I'm happy to report
that went very smoothly I think I can

1457
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:42,300
report Faithfully that they're very
happy that they have a new investor

1458
02:03:39,260 --> 02:03:45,960
because it gives them a future because
they know what's going on at the plant

1459
02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:50,219
probably better than you and I do in
terms of what needs to be done

1460
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:52,320
I always push our people to make sure
you listen to your people because

1461
02:03:51,119 --> 02:03:58,219
they're the ones that actually know
what's going on

1462
02:03:53,880 --> 02:04:02,699
uh 2.8 BCF of gas 61 employees retained
and then new eight eight new positions

1463
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:07,739
in the fact sheet that I gave you
there's lots more details about what it

1464
02:04:05,099 --> 02:04:12,060
is that this is all about I'm happy to
talk about this subject

1465
02:04:09,719 --> 02:04:16,380
um at my age to be doing renewable
energy just is a really nice way to to

1466
02:04:14,580 --> 02:04:20,520
finish off things and I feel really good
about what I'm able to do and I feel

1467
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:23,940
really good about what reviles wants to
do in this community and I want to thank

1468
02:04:22,199 --> 02:04:28,380
you for considering the tax abatement
because it will be important as part of

1469
02:04:25,679 --> 02:04:32,400
one of the financial tools you want to
make sure that the Investments you're

1470
02:04:30,060 --> 02:04:35,880
making us makes us successful and that
means we have to have a complement of

1471
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:39,659
financial tools to deal with a risk
profile so I thank you for support

1472
02:04:37,500 --> 02:04:43,440
considering supporting us and I thank
the committee this afternoon for their

1473
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:46,920
favorable support at least in the first
round of discussions and I look forward

1474
02:04:45,179 --> 02:04:50,699
to having many more with you any
questions thank you so much at this time

1475
02:04:49,199 --> 02:04:56,639
I will turn to my colleagues to see if
there are any questions at this time

1476
02:04:53,639 --> 02:05:00,719
counselor Thomas Morgan well I I just
think it's worth reiterating a question

1477
02:04:58,139 --> 02:05:04,320
that was raised uh earlier in committee
and if you can just speak briefly to it

1478
02:05:02,699 --> 02:05:10,699
Mr Northrop
um you'll be the production of the

1479
02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:17,540
facilities qualify for the new section
48e investment tax credit uh authorized

1480
02:05:15,239 --> 02:05:22,920
under the inflation reduction Act of
2022 so could you speak to the

1481
02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:28,099
requirements of that sure so the one of
the critical features of the inflation

1482
02:05:24,719 --> 02:05:33,179
reduction Act is to improve America's
reliability and renewable fuels if you

1483
02:05:31,260 --> 02:05:37,020
make renewable natural gas that's one of
the things that they're trying to

1484
02:05:34,739 --> 02:05:42,119
incentivize as a federal process to
improve our overall energy policy

1485
02:05:39,599 --> 02:05:46,980
the that section provides for what's
called an investment tax credit

1486
02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:52,020
it's equal to 30 percent of the capital
investment you'll receive that back when

1487
02:05:49,860 --> 02:05:56,580
we file our income tax return
I can tell you that the IRS makes sure

1488
02:05:54,420 --> 02:06:02,820
that we dots all the I's and Crosses all
the t's as part of that though we have

1489
02:05:59,159 --> 02:06:07,980
we'll have a commitment to improve act
to pay prevailing wage rates and in fact

1490
02:06:05,460 --> 02:06:12,480
our wage rates will be 24 above the
average here in South Bend as it is

1491
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:16,940
we will also have it we have a
commitment to higher apprentices during

1492
02:06:15,239 --> 02:06:21,719
the construction period pipefitters
electricians those types of positions

1493
02:06:19,380 --> 02:06:26,460
and I'll tell you as a technology
company we are big on interns we're big

1494
02:06:24,300 --> 02:06:31,020
on apprentices because if you have good
skill sets to operate these kinds of

1495
02:06:28,380 --> 02:06:34,800
facilities you need talented people and
we're willing to pay talented people to

1496
02:06:32,820 --> 02:06:38,179
do great work
thank you Mr Northern thank you

1497
02:06:36,719 --> 02:06:44,280
councilor Lee
I just wanted to thank them for the

1498
02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:49,260
investment and again to reiterate
when it comes to this tax abatement that

1499
02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:54,719
even after the first year we're going to
be getting sixty five thousand dollars

1500
02:06:51,540 --> 02:07:00,060
more than what we're getting currently
so again

1501
02:06:56,760 --> 02:07:03,440
there we're not losing we're gaining
plus we're getting investment in the

1502
02:07:02,580 --> 02:07:09,599
community
61 jobs that make a hundred thousand

1503
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:14,119
dollars a year and eight new positions
that will be I mean that's that's a win

1504
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:18,360
for this area
my final question is this as a kid

1505
02:07:16,739 --> 02:07:22,400
growing up in South Bend with the
ethanol plan we had to deal with the

1506
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:28,760
smell
and with what you guys are doing now

1507
02:07:25,560 --> 02:07:34,080
does does that change that we'll we'll
we not have to deal with the smell or or

1508
02:07:31,619 --> 02:07:39,179
has has technology changed that word
doesn't have that so a good question

1509
02:07:37,619 --> 02:07:44,760
um obviously these kinds of facilities
uh have some potential issues as it

1510
02:07:42,599 --> 02:07:48,900
relates to odor issues I don't think
there's any current odor issues with the

1511
02:07:46,500 --> 02:07:52,679
ethanol operation that I'm aware of and
that was part of our due diligence

1512
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:57,300
assessment the renewable natural gas
production the methane gas is made

1513
02:07:55,080 --> 02:08:01,380
inside of the anaerobic digestion tanks
the large tanks that I showed you

1514
02:07:58,619 --> 02:08:05,699
pictures of those are airtight tanks
the only way the gas gets out there is

1515
02:08:04,020 --> 02:08:10,679
either it's pulled through the pipe to
be upgraded for pipeline quality and

1516
02:08:07,980 --> 02:08:15,300
then injected into the system or on the
photo that I is in your package there's

1517
02:08:12,900 --> 02:08:21,000
two flares there if we were to have a
problem uh with the gas the gas is moved

1518
02:08:18,719 --> 02:08:25,139
to the flare and then it's ignited and
sent into the environment so that it's

1519
02:08:23,099 --> 02:08:29,580
not causing any odor issues or any other
kinds of potential Hazard issues

1520
02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:33,599
um it's a it's a critical it's a
critical design feature of the plant but

1521
02:08:31,980 --> 02:08:37,260
that's the way we deal with it so you
shouldn't have odor issues thank you

1522
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:41,699
very much
counselor niskowski

1523
02:08:39,599 --> 02:08:44,940
thank you
um and thank you so much for the

1524
02:08:43,380 --> 02:08:50,340
presentation and for the potential
investment with the ethanol plan I think

1525
02:08:47,580 --> 02:08:53,760
it's so important to secure the future
for that facility

1526
02:08:51,960 --> 02:08:57,360
um and I believe this is this is a
wonderful opportunity

1527
02:08:55,619 --> 02:09:02,760
um but I just want to go back when you
had talked about the fact sheet you

1528
02:08:59,580 --> 02:09:07,619
talked about the 61 job secured another
eight jobs that you'll be hiring but I

1529
02:09:05,159 --> 02:09:13,320
believe in the presentation you made you
said the total project for this indirect

1530
02:09:10,020 --> 02:09:18,599
impact on jobs is somewhere between six
to seven hundred yeah if you look at the

1531
02:09:17,099 --> 02:09:22,739
data that our good friends at the
Chamber of Commerce actually put

1532
02:09:19,860 --> 02:09:27,900
together for us it's projected with the
construction jobs that would be included

1533
02:09:25,860 --> 02:09:30,659
as part of the process and I I don't
think I looted to this but the

1534
02:09:28,980 --> 02:09:36,659
construction will occur over a two-year
three-year period with the commission is

1535
02:09:33,420 --> 02:09:40,920
expected in 2026 it's estimated that
there's approximately 650 jobs that are

1536
02:09:38,940 --> 02:09:44,880
created in terms of what we're doing
plus the construction jobs plus the

1537
02:09:42,900 --> 02:09:48,659
other jobs within the committee on an
ongoing basis they would continue to be

1538
02:09:46,679 --> 02:09:52,460
other jobs that are supported as a
result of the direct job we have data on

1539
02:09:50,820 --> 02:09:58,500
that as well so
I think if I recall the data just for

1540
02:09:55,260 --> 02:10:03,599
our plant only the annual revenue is
about 60 million dollars coming from the

1541
02:10:00,719 --> 02:10:09,060
payroll for our existing employees and
so it's obviously a significant critical

1542
02:10:06,599 --> 02:10:13,260
number and it represents our commitment
to our employees but at the same time it

1543
02:10:11,099 --> 02:10:17,219
obviously brings Revenue sources to the
community over and above what we're

1544
02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:22,940
going to pay in terms of taxes
thank you so much

1545
02:10:20,099 --> 02:10:22,940
Muffler wax

1546
02:10:28,500 --> 02:10:36,900
these are really high paying jobs uh
both you said compared to the average

1547
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:41,820
but if you just you know just the number
itself objectively or talking six figure

1548
02:10:39,780 --> 02:10:46,699
jobs here so
um those are wonderful jobs to maintain

1549
02:10:44,099 --> 02:10:53,699
and to increase potentially
we talked earlier today about the

1550
02:10:49,739 --> 02:11:00,119
property tax and I believe
um you stated or uh that the property

1551
02:10:57,719 --> 02:11:04,920
tax would be depreciated on a 30-year
straight line depreciation

1552
02:11:03,060 --> 02:11:10,980
um so that would mean just to make sure
that I understand that the tax revenue

1553
02:11:07,099 --> 02:11:15,960
would of the personal property would
decrease over over each year but it

1554
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:19,679
would continue on for about 30 years is
that is that correct right were you able

1555
02:11:18,060 --> 02:11:24,119
to and I know there wasn't a lot of time
between meetings were you able to get a

1556
02:11:21,599 --> 02:11:29,420
ballpark of what the total tax revenue
might be

1557
02:11:25,560 --> 02:11:29,420
on the new personal property

1558
02:11:30,540 --> 02:11:37,679
council member wax I did run some
numbers I

1559
02:11:34,739 --> 02:11:43,560
full honesty I don't think they're
accurate but I tried I tried doing the

1560
02:11:40,440 --> 02:11:48,780
30-year depreciation
I again I I have

1561
02:11:46,679 --> 02:11:53,760
um net taxes paid in the range of 85
million dollars over 30 years I don't

1562
02:11:50,760 --> 02:11:57,540
know how accurate that is but I did I
did print this out so that I could give

1563
02:11:55,139 --> 02:12:01,860
it to you for your you know you can take
your red pen to it if you okay I

1564
02:11:59,880 --> 02:12:06,000
appreciate that because especially when
uh sometimes when we're looking at

1565
02:12:03,599 --> 02:12:09,840
personal property tax uh abatements
sometimes the personal property only

1566
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:13,980
lasts for five to ten years so when
you're evading most of the front end you

1567
02:12:12,179 --> 02:12:19,080
know the question could be what what are
we from a revenue basis of course

1568
02:12:16,139 --> 02:12:23,460
there's other benefits to uh getting a
project like this off the ground like

1569
02:12:20,520 --> 02:12:30,179
jobs or other economic impacts in the
area but just from a pure tax revenue

1570
02:12:26,820 --> 02:12:33,719
basis uh the question is
um what would we be getting in the

1571
02:12:31,619 --> 02:12:39,060
future and so I'm happy to hear that
I'll take with the the caveat that I

1572
02:12:36,900 --> 02:12:43,320
know that this is uh back the napkin
calculations last minute but it's good

1573
02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:46,380
to know that it'll be a very significant
amount of tax revenue over the next the

1574
02:12:45,060 --> 02:12:49,920
other thing I would add to that I think
you had the question earlier today you

1575
02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:55,139
know what's the life of these plants are
these assets and so the tanks themselves

1576
02:12:52,320 --> 02:13:00,719
typically 40 to 50 years if not unheard
of so the the asset will last well past

1577
02:12:57,900 --> 02:13:03,599
the depreciation schedule so at least
that person is covered for that period

1578
02:13:02,579 --> 02:13:07,860
of time so
if if these numbers uh needed a little

1579
02:13:06,300 --> 02:13:11,639
bit fine-tuning I'd be happy to work
with Eric and we can deal with it

1580
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:14,940
further if necessary but I think it's a
good it's a good investment for the city

1581
02:13:13,380 --> 02:13:19,980
I got the answer that I made for tonight
thank you thank you thank you I'll turn

1582
02:13:17,219 --> 02:13:23,840
to my Council colleagues online see if
they have any comments or questions

1583
02:13:30,000 --> 02:13:35,960
also Davis thank you I'm saying no and
I'll turn back to council

1584
02:13:36,300 --> 02:13:44,340
well no l is public portion time I'll
open it up to the public is there any

1585
02:13:41,340 --> 02:13:51,659
one wishing to speak in favor
of

1586
02:13:45,599 --> 02:13:51,659
resolution 2321 or 2322

1587
02:13:52,920 --> 02:13:58,079
state your name and address for the
record please sure good evening

1588
02:13:56,280 --> 02:14:02,940
um Allison Herzig director of Economic
Development South Bend Regional Chamber

1589
02:13:59,699 --> 02:14:06,000
offices at 101 North Michigan Street we
just wanted to take enough opportunity

1590
02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:10,340
to come up and thank the council for
considering

1591
02:14:07,219 --> 02:14:17,520
verbaya's proposition for our community
they are it's a significant investment

1592
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:22,040
we're seeing an economic impact of the
construction alone over the three years

1593
02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:27,300
of 350 million dollars
on top of the economic impact that was

1594
02:14:25,079 --> 02:14:33,020
already referenced of the jobs and so as
we kind of look at the different

1595
02:14:29,659 --> 02:14:38,520
companies that will be impacted by this
investment and by the new workers we see

1596
02:14:36,719 --> 02:14:43,980
that it it kind of rolls through the
whole Community Building Services will

1597
02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:48,000
have three jobs supported we have
Employment Services of two jobs and so

1598
02:14:46,139 --> 02:14:54,000
it kind of extrapolates out when you
look at how significant this is for

1599
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:58,800
South Bend and for our community I
really appreciate you taking the time to

1600
02:14:56,579 --> 02:15:04,320
consider this we are very excited about
the possibilities we look at the

1601
02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:11,460
continued partnership with local farmers
and businesses as a wonderful

1602
02:15:07,880 --> 02:15:16,380
opportunity to to support services that
are already existing and jobs that

1603
02:15:13,079 --> 02:15:21,239
already exist as well as the commitment
to sustainability is so very important

1604
02:15:18,659 --> 02:15:25,079
as you all know I'm thrilled that they
are considering our community thank you

1605
02:15:23,159 --> 02:15:29,699
so much thank you so much for your
comment anyone else Clark Jones do you

1606
02:15:28,199 --> 02:15:37,440
see anyone in the virtual audience
wishing to speak in favor of either

1607
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:41,940
resolution 2321 or 23 22.
modern audience expressing interest to

1608
02:15:39,719 --> 02:15:47,699
speak in favor of this Bill thank you
I'll turn anyone wishing to speak in

1609
02:15:43,920 --> 02:15:51,139
opposition of 23 21 or 23-22 you're
welcome to come up to the podium

1610
02:15:53,639 --> 02:16:02,940
Sheriff Nikki 3822 Ford Street not
really opposed to it but I do have a

1611
02:15:58,679 --> 02:16:08,520
question the smell was brought up last
summer and the summer before that the

1612
02:16:05,579 --> 02:16:13,800
noise coming from the ethanol plant is
very disruptive to the neighborhoods and

1613
02:16:11,579 --> 02:16:18,060
as Eli I'll tell you I don't live that
close to it but yet we could hear it and

1614
02:16:16,440 --> 02:16:24,239
if you go on Facebook they were talking
about it out into the county and across

1615
02:16:20,639 --> 02:16:24,239
Lincolnway so

1616
02:16:24,360 --> 02:16:27,980
anyone want to address that

1617
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:40,160
so I'm not familiar with the noise issue
um I know Tucker you want to address

1618
02:16:37,859 --> 02:16:40,160
that

1619
02:16:40,859 --> 02:16:47,120
please state your name and address for
the record good evening I'm Chuck Tuscan

1620
02:16:44,700 --> 02:16:55,439
general manager of South Bend ethanol
reside in South Bend

1621
02:16:50,120 --> 02:17:03,960
as as regarding the the noise issue that
is related to The energy used so the the

1622
02:16:59,399 --> 02:17:09,120
steam that is used on the back end of
the process that Mr Northrop was talking

1623
02:17:06,599 --> 02:17:13,800
about the stillage where we dry the
stillage

1624
02:17:10,380 --> 02:17:19,500
all of that initially before we even
have the uh the new investment is being

1625
02:17:16,859 --> 02:17:26,519
worked on to eliminate the discharge of
the high pressure steam to the

1626
02:17:21,179 --> 02:17:31,760
atmosphere but once we get the RNG that
will that part of the process will be

1627
02:17:28,559 --> 02:17:38,240
not used anymore so again we we
apologize for the sound the noise but we

1628
02:17:36,120 --> 02:17:44,340
are currently working on it
to eliminate the discharge to the

1629
02:17:41,580 --> 02:17:48,780
atmosphere of steam
thank you so much does that satisfy your

1630
02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:53,359
question
summer will tell thank you I'm sure

1631
02:17:51,599 --> 02:17:56,479
we'll see you again
anyone else

1632
02:17:57,840 --> 02:18:04,740
there's no one else expressing interest
virtually to speak in opposition of this

1633
02:18:02,760 --> 02:18:08,540
Bill thank you so much with that I'll
turn back to my colleagues what's your

1634
02:18:06,179 --> 02:18:08,540
pleasure

1635
02:18:10,500 --> 02:18:20,160
for the adoption of resolution 23-21
second it's been moved in second and

1636
02:18:17,580 --> 02:18:23,399
Clark Jones The Royal place
council member Thomas Morgan

1637
02:18:22,500 --> 02:18:29,479
aye
vice president naskowski aye

1638
02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:29,479
councilmember Davis

1639
02:18:29,820 --> 02:18:32,540
I

1640
02:18:33,540 --> 02:18:40,800
council member Lee
aye council member Warner

1641
02:18:38,399 --> 02:18:47,460
aye council member wax
aye council member white

1642
02:18:43,260 --> 02:18:52,080
aye president McBride aye eight eyes
thank you resolution 2321 has been

1643
02:18:50,099 --> 02:18:59,519
adopted
I would like to entertain a motion

1644
02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:59,519
regarding Bill 23 resolution 23-22

1645
02:18:59,939 --> 02:19:09,359
the second clerk Johnson role please
vice president

1646
02:19:05,519 --> 02:19:14,160
aye council member Davis I
council member Lee

1647
02:19:11,340 --> 02:19:19,620
aye council member Warner
aye council member wax I

1648
02:19:16,620 --> 02:19:22,859
council member white I council member
Thomas Morgan

1649
02:19:21,059 --> 02:19:27,780
aye president McBride
aye eight eyes

1650
02:19:24,120 --> 02:19:32,460
thank you resolution 2322 has been
adopted there are no bills on first

1651
02:19:30,179 --> 02:19:36,019
reading I'll turn to see is there any
unfinished business from the council

1652
02:19:37,679 --> 02:19:41,719
is there any new business from Council

1653
02:19:42,780 --> 02:19:48,019
seeing none I will open it up to the
privilege of the floor

1654
02:19:48,420 --> 02:19:53,280
individuals who wish to address the
council must State their name and

1655
02:19:51,120 --> 02:19:57,240
residential address individuals will be
limited to three minutes only

1656
02:19:55,500 --> 02:20:01,260
the maximum time for this portion of the
meeting shall be 30 minutes individuals

1657
02:19:59,640 --> 02:20:05,340
should not be permitted to the address
topics which the council has heard

1658
02:20:03,120 --> 02:20:09,540
previously on tonight's agenda the
council president May assign a topic

1659
02:20:07,439 --> 02:20:13,320
raised by an individual doing the
privilege of the floor to the

1660
02:20:11,040 --> 02:20:16,680
appropriate council member and or
request the city clerk to contact the

1661
02:20:15,120 --> 02:20:21,240
member of the city Administration for
review and topics assigned and shall be

1662
02:20:19,140 --> 02:20:26,060
responded to at the next scheduled
council meeting please state your name

1663
02:20:22,979 --> 02:20:26,060
and address for the record

1664
02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:49,439
please state your name and address for
the record please

1665
02:20:46,380 --> 02:20:54,060
see Castle 4022 Kennedy Drive in South
Bend thank you I would appreciate the

1666
02:20:52,260 --> 02:20:58,200
council getting back to me on the items
that I'm about to bring up I still

1667
02:20:56,460 --> 02:21:06,780
haven't heard heard back on the
abatement reports or if the

1668
02:21:01,220 --> 02:21:10,020
zero dollars for 10 years was legal also
um

1669
02:21:07,620 --> 02:21:14,160
when I go to look for information it's
great that there's videos of these

1670
02:21:11,760 --> 02:21:20,040
meetings but there's no transcripts
I'd like to suggest to the council and

1671
02:21:17,220 --> 02:21:27,960
the clerk that you research something
like otter a i o t t e r dot a I what

1672
02:21:25,800 --> 02:21:33,240
happens is that the artificial
intelligence listens to the meeting and

1673
02:21:31,260 --> 02:21:37,620
creates a transcript
so this would be really nice for all of

1674
02:21:35,220 --> 02:21:42,060
us can you repeat that
otter

1675
02:21:38,819 --> 02:21:46,920
otter o t t e r dot a i
there are other transcription softwares

1676
02:21:44,640 --> 02:21:51,660
but I'm just suggesting one to start
with

1677
02:21:49,020 --> 02:21:58,439
um what I handed out to you is that
there are missing Financial reports

1678
02:21:54,720 --> 02:22:01,100
I'd like to see those uh appear on the
website

1679
02:22:01,319 --> 02:22:09,720
um in 2018 there was a city-wide debt
update to the council

1680
02:22:06,600 --> 02:22:13,740
I'd like to see you guys have a new debt
update

1681
02:22:11,640 --> 02:22:18,600
and um
I'd also like to bring up that there are

1682
02:22:16,200 --> 02:22:22,560
quite a few rape kits that have never
been processed

1683
02:22:20,160 --> 02:22:26,640
and those women have never received
Justice

1684
02:22:23,700 --> 02:22:30,439
if the rape kits had been processed and
put in the system the DNA could possibly

1685
02:22:29,100 --> 02:22:36,200
found
the perpetrators it could have possibly

1686
02:22:33,979 --> 02:22:42,120
created
prevented other rapes from occurring

1687
02:22:39,380 --> 02:22:46,500
perhaps Mr King is part of the new
police board could put this on his

1688
02:22:43,859 --> 02:22:51,240
agenda to review the unprocessed rape
kits they've been unprocessed for a long

1689
02:22:49,140 --> 02:22:54,620
time some of them may have even timed
out

1690
02:22:51,960 --> 02:23:00,020
I think that the women of our community
deserve justice

1691
02:22:57,260 --> 02:23:04,979
for that trauma
obviously then they are concerned that

1692
02:23:03,180 --> 02:23:10,560
that perpetrator comes back to them
again

1693
02:23:06,720 --> 02:23:14,100
which is very stressful for them so
um I did

1694
02:23:12,180 --> 02:23:20,460
um I'm not supposed to mention names I
did approach to council members about

1695
02:23:17,220 --> 02:23:23,520
this issue that I would like to see it
um

1696
02:23:21,120 --> 02:23:28,260
a higher priority
so those are my issues and if you could

1697
02:23:25,979 --> 02:23:33,420
get back to me I'd appreciate it and I'd
love to hear on the abatements and

1698
02:23:31,100 --> 02:23:36,620
especially on the missing Financial
reports thank you

1699
02:23:35,399 --> 02:23:41,580
thank you
I just wanted to mention that on YouTube

1700
02:23:39,060 --> 02:23:45,960
they do the transcripts that's where we
get our transcripts from is from YouTube

1701
02:23:43,260 --> 02:23:51,780
on the video when you have a video the
trans but the transcripts on YouTube are

1702
02:23:48,780 --> 02:23:58,020
not the legal documents held by the city
and we use otter too and they didn't

1703
02:23:55,200 --> 02:24:01,920
they're just weren't real good either so
um but no the video is the legal

1704
02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:06,479
document I know but I can't go through
hours of videos to to scan for what the

1705
02:24:04,620 --> 02:24:11,460
information I'm looking for right but
you can you should be able to do that

1706
02:24:08,939 --> 02:24:19,100
through YouTube I mean I know you said
it's not legal but you can do that

1707
02:24:14,880 --> 02:24:19,100
is there a legal opinion on that

1708
02:24:21,180 --> 02:24:30,979
perfect
I can't do it but you

1709
02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:30,979
ain't no need to should have no need to

1710
02:24:31,020 --> 02:24:40,140
I would prefer not to have to go through
YouTube and I would prefer that the city

1711
02:24:35,819 --> 02:24:45,439
have legal documents and transcripts
that's my opinion thank you

1712
02:24:42,720 --> 02:24:45,439
thank you

1713
02:24:48,420 --> 02:24:59,160
Sharon panicky 3822 Ford Street I'm just
checking back in Eli and I did spend 45

1714
02:24:56,040 --> 02:25:04,620
minutes together he got to see myself
been sixth district he got to see Bob

1715
02:25:02,280 --> 02:25:09,479
the Builder's house he got to see the
two houses that have been shot up by me

1716
02:25:06,780 --> 02:25:13,979
he got to see a lot of different things
and I'm hoping Eli through a different

1717
02:25:11,700 --> 02:25:17,700
set of eyes than what you have seen
before

1718
02:25:15,720 --> 02:25:21,439
and did you ever figure out why the
speed limit signs in the parking lot

1719
02:25:21,899 --> 02:25:28,680
I'll wait for you to get back to me on
that I just wanted to express my

1720
02:25:25,920 --> 02:25:34,640
appreciation to Eli for giving me and I
did keep it at 45 minutes but we did

1721
02:25:30,960 --> 02:25:38,520
make a very good round tour of it
also

1722
02:25:36,240 --> 02:25:43,380
um this Wednesday is the crime stats
meeting at the police department and I

1723
02:25:40,800 --> 02:25:47,939
was there last month and some of some of
the citizens are asking why doesn't the

1724
02:25:45,479 --> 02:25:52,200
city council people come do they get
this information

1725
02:25:49,800 --> 02:25:57,300
I can't answer whether you get the same
reports that we get but the officer in

1726
02:25:55,140 --> 02:26:02,100
charge did say that they don't invite
the city council to come as council

1727
02:26:00,359 --> 02:26:06,720
members
but I think it would do a world of good

1728
02:26:04,140 --> 02:26:12,300
for the relationship if you came as
Citizens to listen to what the people

1729
02:26:09,420 --> 02:26:18,359
there are saying to hear what's going on
in the neighborhoods to hear the fears

1730
02:26:15,000 --> 02:26:23,040
and what's going on now I did have a
police car parked in front of my house

1731
02:26:20,460 --> 02:26:27,840
for two weeks they picked it up Saturday
so we know it's just a matter of time

1732
02:26:25,140 --> 02:26:34,140
before the fifth shooting happens in
front the gentleman two doors down was

1733
02:26:30,899 --> 02:26:39,120
arrested a second time they got him for
resisting arrest resisting arrest

1734
02:26:36,240 --> 02:26:43,020
because one was driving his car away
then he fled from the scene he wrecked

1735
02:26:41,520 --> 02:26:47,160
the car they caught him with the machine
gun

1736
02:26:44,520 --> 02:26:52,319
and it eludes me what the fifth was but
the prosecutor

1737
02:26:49,200 --> 02:26:57,120
drop three of the five charges from Jump
Street the bond went from no bond to a

1738
02:26:55,140 --> 02:27:00,899
thousand bonds to he was released with
promise to appear

1739
02:26:58,979 --> 02:27:06,180
the pressure needs to be put on the
prosecutor because you know the police

1740
02:27:03,720 --> 02:27:11,220
like us are getting tired of seeing the
same people going to jail going to jail

1741
02:27:08,040 --> 02:27:15,720
slap on the hand out to go this child's
father was arrested last year after

1742
02:27:13,020 --> 02:27:20,420
their house raid he got caught with guns
and drugs and cocaine and he got one

1743
02:27:18,720 --> 02:27:26,280
year probation
so and I mean they're still doing what

1744
02:27:24,120 --> 02:27:32,040
they do and there's no incentive not to
do it because the prosecutor's not doing

1745
02:27:28,920 --> 02:27:38,399
what he needs to do so whatever pressure
you can put on the prosecutor would be

1746
02:27:34,080 --> 02:27:43,620
appreciated thank you thank you
yes Clark Jones

1747
02:27:40,500 --> 02:27:46,740
um just to also let Miss Kessler know we
have transcripts on our team's video as

1748
02:27:45,780 --> 02:27:52,620
well
so that would be legal

1749
02:27:48,899 --> 02:27:58,520
thank you and for Mr Mr Nikki thank you
so much I do attend weekly in my dukem's

1750
02:27:55,979 --> 02:28:03,780
role with the police department
separately from the community so I'm in

1751
02:28:00,899 --> 02:28:07,200
on those uh private meetings of uh
what's going on in the community so

1752
02:28:05,280 --> 02:28:11,100
thank you for that but it is very
informative for us to stay informed with

1753
02:28:09,840 --> 02:28:18,420
that information
thank you president McBride yes Mr Davis

1754
02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:22,620
just just a
Food For Thought

1755
02:28:20,040 --> 02:28:26,160
um Miss benicki probably has a better
conversation with the mayor than he

1756
02:28:24,780 --> 02:28:30,359
would with the council because the
marriage in direct control of the police

1757
02:28:27,720 --> 02:28:33,960
department I understand the council
members are a part of the city

1758
02:28:31,740 --> 02:28:38,580
government and also a part of the
funding mechanisms of the of the police

1759
02:28:36,180 --> 02:28:43,740
department but as far as the enforcement
tool and the conversation that she's

1760
02:28:40,760 --> 02:28:49,260
asking that needs to happen between uh
city government along with the

1761
02:28:46,439 --> 02:28:55,319
prosecutor probably will be best served
with the mayor and the prosecutor versus

1762
02:28:52,140 --> 02:28:58,260
council member and prosecutor just a
thought

1763
02:28:56,280 --> 02:29:02,100
thank you for your input because it is
County as well as I know some I think

1764
02:29:00,180 --> 02:29:08,040
the rape kits were under the prosecutor
as well but I will

1765
02:29:04,800 --> 02:29:13,740
um I will send an email to see the
status but I do uh know that years ago

1766
02:29:11,160 --> 02:29:20,399
when we were trying to get that the rape
kids that it fell under the prosecutors

1767
02:29:16,920 --> 02:29:25,020
but but I will follow up as well the um
rape kits are held in freezers at the

1768
02:29:22,979 --> 02:29:29,280
police department some of of them got
moved to a garage and so that may have

1769
02:29:27,420 --> 02:29:33,720
broken the chain of evidence on some of
them okay thank you I will follow up

1770
02:29:31,439 --> 02:29:40,740
with that as well thank you Mr Davis I
will also um

1771
02:29:36,660 --> 02:29:46,080
advise or ask I know Mr Nicky will still
come to uh Council but and and maybe she

1772
02:29:43,979 --> 02:29:49,560
have already reached out but I will
follow up with you as well Mr Nicki

1773
02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:53,899
thank you
um with that this meeting stands

1774
02:29:51,120 --> 02:29:53,899
adjourned thank you