1 00:00:06,860 --> 00:00:32,400 Trecky Meadows Water, oh, it's good, it's on it. The Trecky Meadows Water Authority Board of Directors meeting for Tuesday, December 7th, which is Pearl Harbor Day, and my dad. Do you have any veterans in the audience? Is there anyone in Syvetron? Anyone? No, not a vet here? It's going to ask you to lead us in the pledge. Okay, yes, absolutely. Carl, you're a vet? 2 00:00:34,790 --> 00:00:38,130 Are you a vet, sir? Okay, all right. 3 00:00:38,130 --> 00:00:45,210 Okay, would you give us a roll call first, Ms. Falson, and then we'll get to the, we're going to get, we're coming back to you, sir. 4 00:00:48,270 --> 00:00:48,690 Here? 5 00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:50,410 Here. 6 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:51,690 Here. 7 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:05,460 Here. 8 00:01:06,180 --> 00:01:07,160 Thank you, Madam Clerk. 9 00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:09,480 Carl, I don't know your last name, sir. 10 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:10,840 Cut. 11 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:18,600 Mr. Cut, would you, sir, because of Pearl Harbor Day, would you lead us in the pledge? 12 00:01:38,900 --> 00:01:39,460 So I 13 00:01:41,820 --> 00:01:45,320 want to thank you for leading us and I want to thank you for your service. 14 00:01:48,010 --> 00:01:52,750 Okay, that takes us to item number three public comment. 15 00:01:52,930 --> 00:01:54,670 Madam Clerk, I don't have any cards in front of me. 16 00:01:54,750 --> 00:01:56,170 Do we have anyone signed in public comment? 17 00:01:57,310 --> 00:01:59,150 Is there anyone wishing to speak at this time? 18 00:01:59,150 --> 00:02:01,930 Seeing none, I will close public comment. 19 00:02:03,010 --> 00:02:06,230 Item number four, possible board comments or acknowledgements? 20 00:02:06,850 --> 00:02:07,230 Anyone? 21 00:02:09,710 --> 00:02:09,790 Okay. 22 00:02:10,270 --> 00:02:14,650 Seeing none, that will take us to item number five. 23 00:02:14,790 --> 00:02:16,090 Approval of the agenda. 24 00:02:16,650 --> 00:02:23,150 What I'd like to do board is I'd like to open items 10a and 10b together. 25 00:02:23,870 --> 00:02:27,130 And then items 12 and 13 together. 26 00:02:27,130 --> 00:02:29,970 If the board is amenable to that, I will. 27 00:02:30,050 --> 00:02:30,630 Mr. Chair. 28 00:02:31,270 --> 00:02:31,390 Yes. 29 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:34,160 Yes. 30 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:34,820 Mr. Chair. 31 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:35,180 Yes. 32 00:02:35,460 --> 00:02:36,720 Mr. Floor, George. 33 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:38,840 Mr. Chair. 34 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,640 And I'll know if you can hear me. 35 00:02:41,220 --> 00:02:42,080 I can hear you. 36 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:44,320 Sonia. 37 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,140 Raise your hand if you can hear me. 38 00:02:50,710 --> 00:02:50,970 Here. 39 00:02:51,170 --> 00:02:52,510 I'll, I'll text her and let her know. 40 00:02:53,330 --> 00:02:53,650 Okay. 41 00:02:54,410 --> 00:02:55,630 You guys were muted. 42 00:02:55,910 --> 00:02:57,810 So we, the rest of us on here couldn't hear. 43 00:02:58,730 --> 00:02:59,130 Okay. 44 00:02:59,130 --> 00:03:20,290 So I just I don't know if you started the meeting or called the role but we we just have can hear you. Okay. Yes, we did call the role and the meeting has started and we are now an item number five, which is public, which is approval of the agenda under item four possible board comments. Do you have any comments, Mr. 45 00:03:20,290 --> 00:03:25,470 store. No, I just wanted to let you know I've been here since before the meeting started. 46 00:03:25,770 --> 00:03:33,470 Thank you. Okay. Approval of the agenda. Again, I'll say I would like to put items 10A and 10B 47 00:03:33,470 --> 00:03:38,410 together and items 12 and 13 together. And if that's amenable to the board, I will entertain a motion. 48 00:03:38,710 --> 00:03:43,230 Public. Second. I have a motion by Jardin. Second by Dare. Is there any other discussion? 49 00:03:44,450 --> 00:03:46,550 Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments on this item? 50 00:03:47,390 --> 00:03:50,250 Okay, I'll close public comment, bring it back to the board. 51 00:03:50,650 --> 00:03:52,370 All those in favor please signify by saying aye. 52 00:03:52,590 --> 00:03:52,770 Aye. 53 00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:53,730 Any opposed? 54 00:03:54,490 --> 00:03:55,330 Motion carries unanimously. 55 00:03:56,090 --> 00:03:56,170 Okay. 56 00:03:57,390 --> 00:04:02,250 That takes us to item number six, approval of the minutes for October 20th, 2021. 57 00:04:03,330 --> 00:04:05,930 Are there any mandations to those minutes? 58 00:04:08,780 --> 00:04:10,200 Seeing none, I will entertain a motion. 59 00:04:10,780 --> 00:04:14,860 Moved to approve the meeting minutes from October 20th, 2021. 60 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,500 Motion by Anderson. 61 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:17,240 Do I have a second? 62 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:23,060 Second. Second by Jardin. Is there any other discussion? Is there any public comments on this item madam clerk? 63 00:04:24,420 --> 00:04:30,300 We'll close public comment bring it back to the board. All those in favor please signify by saying aye. Aye any opposed? 64 00:04:31,380 --> 00:04:32,980 Motion carries unanimously 65 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:41,520 That takes us to item number seven discussion and action on the adoption of the resolution number 298 a resolution to approve the 66 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:47,700 Annual Comprehensive Financial Report for the fiscal year ended June 30, 2021. Mr. Bowman, welcome. 67 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,960 Thank you. Good afternoon, members of the board. 68 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:21,450 I'm going to try my best to refer to this document no longer as a CAFER, but as an act for. 69 00:05:22,610 --> 00:05:26,850 We filed them on November 30th following the issuance of an unqualified audit opinion 70 00:05:27,490 --> 00:05:33,730 from I'd Bailey. Happy to report there were no comments or internal control matters noted 71 00:05:34,390 --> 00:05:35,510 from their audit. 72 00:05:36,070 --> 00:05:37,270 Everything went smoothly. 73 00:05:37,970 --> 00:05:40,570 I definitely want to thank Sophie Cardinal, 74 00:05:41,210 --> 00:05:43,290 who's right there, our principal accountant, 75 00:05:43,550 --> 00:05:45,990 for preparing pretty much all the audit schedules 76 00:05:45,990 --> 00:05:47,630 and coordinating the bulk of the audit, 77 00:05:48,010 --> 00:05:49,670 went off without a hitch this year. 78 00:05:50,530 --> 00:05:53,230 Sophie also drafted several of the footnotes 79 00:05:53,230 --> 00:05:54,910 within the financial statements this year. 80 00:05:55,750 --> 00:05:58,930 I also want to thank Sonya Folsom over there 81 00:05:58,930 --> 00:06:03,130 and Sandra Tozi for compiling the statistical section. 82 00:06:03,130 --> 00:06:34,620 of the act for which which I would recommend taking a look through because that those are some pretty interesting schedules it gives a lot of historical perspective to typically there they're shown with 10 years of history behind them and just some useful information for reference the staff report contains some financial information from the year I'm not going to go through that that's all pulled out of the act for itself and I've already talked about that too with our fourth quarter update that I gave you guys happy to answer any questions 83 00:06:34,620 --> 00:06:39,620 questions you might have, but a couple of things I do want to point out within the Act 84 00:06:39,620 --> 00:06:46,400 for this year. First is we implemented a new accounting standard, GASB 84, requires 85 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:53,740 that Toma's two OPEB funds are recognized as component units of Toma. And so at SON 86 00:06:53,740 --> 00:06:59,340 page 34 and 35 of the Act for it's essentially a balance sheet and an income statement for 87 00:06:59,340 --> 00:07:01,000 the two OPEB trust funds. 88 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,120 That's new this year. 89 00:07:03,660 --> 00:07:05,520 We've always prepared those financial statements 90 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,260 and they've always been audited by IG Bailey, 91 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:09,600 but now they just have to be included in the Act 92 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,100 for thanks to GASB 84. 93 00:07:13,700 --> 00:07:15,520 They never ask you to do less. 94 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,840 They always require more disclosure and more work. 95 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,240 So that is what it is. 96 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:25,320 You might notice that those financial statements 97 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,880 have a December 31st year end, 98 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,640 so that's because they're they're on a different fiscal year and again those are audited. 99 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:38,120 The last thing I want to point out in the staff report it's actually on page 4 of the agenda item 100 00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:51,140 looks like this here so for the first time this year tumwa is going to do a paffer and ever since 101 00:07:51,140 --> 00:07:55,620 I started at tumwa michelle's been telling me she she's wanted to do a paffer and what that is is a 102 00:07:55,620 --> 00:07:57,820 a popular annual financial report. 103 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,580 So this year with the help of our communications team 104 00:08:01,580 --> 00:08:04,840 and specifically, Cammy, Elquist, Lure, 105 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:08,200 and Robert Sharpentier, we're putting this together. 106 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,680 And what it is, is it takes information from the app for, 107 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,720 it boils down that financial information, 108 00:08:14,940 --> 00:08:18,300 makes it digestible, and ours is gonna be about 15 pages, 109 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:19,880 lots of graphics. 110 00:08:20,700 --> 00:08:24,140 It boils down into a report that can be useful for the public 111 00:08:24,140 --> 00:08:26,800 like somebody who doesn't want to read through the Act for, 112 00:08:27,020 --> 00:08:29,600 which is prepared under these accounting standards, 113 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,800 very prescriptive, kind of boring. 114 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:35,480 The Paffer is going to be, I think, 115 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:37,300 a lot more useful and kind of fun to read. 116 00:08:37,460 --> 00:08:38,360 So we're excited about that. 117 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,440 We're working on it right now. 118 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,640 We should be presenting that to this board in January. 119 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:51,480 So that's it for this staff report as far as what I want to say. 120 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:53,240 And again, we're just asking for approval 121 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,080 of the 2021 Act for. 122 00:08:57,420 --> 00:09:00,520 All right. Questions for Mr. Bowman? 123 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,860 Mr. Ward, do you have any questions for Mr. Bowman? 124 00:09:07,660 --> 00:09:09,080 Thanks for asking. No, I don't. 125 00:09:09,220 --> 00:09:10,300 Okay. Thank you so much. 126 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:14,080 I'll just note that operating revenues were higher. 127 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,380 Hydroelectric revenues were lower. 128 00:09:17,780 --> 00:09:20,880 Our operating expenses were slightly higher. 129 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,780 But it really, again, 130 00:09:25,780 --> 00:09:30,860 And Tom was in great financial condition, and I attribute that to having great staff. 131 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:38,060 Thank you so much, and I'm still angry about losing Ms. Cardinal, but I'm not holding it against you, Mr. Bowman. 132 00:09:38,860 --> 00:09:40,800 Nor am I holding it against Ms. Cardinal. 133 00:09:41,980 --> 00:09:43,240 Our loss, Tom, was gained. 134 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:46,420 Do we have any public comment on this item? 135 00:09:48,930 --> 00:09:49,130 Okay? 136 00:09:50,010 --> 00:09:52,250 Is there anyone wishing to speak at this time? 137 00:09:53,430 --> 00:09:54,150 Okay, seeing none? 138 00:09:55,290 --> 00:09:55,930 Mr. Dare? 139 00:09:55,930 --> 00:09:57,330 I need to make a motion. 140 00:09:57,830 --> 00:09:57,950 Okay. 141 00:09:58,170 --> 00:09:58,430 Go ahead. 142 00:09:59,070 --> 00:10:02,790 I'd like to make a motion to accept the end adopt. 143 00:10:03,390 --> 00:10:04,450 Resolution number 298. 144 00:10:04,570 --> 00:10:09,310 The resolution to approve the annual comprehensive financial report for fiscal year ended June 30th, 2021. 145 00:10:09,970 --> 00:10:12,230 Congratulations on a good audit and a good year. 146 00:10:12,650 --> 00:10:12,910 Thank you. 147 00:10:13,630 --> 00:10:13,770 Okay. 148 00:10:13,990 --> 00:10:14,950 So I'm a motion minister there. 149 00:10:15,030 --> 00:10:15,530 Do I have a second? 150 00:10:16,170 --> 00:10:16,610 Second. 151 00:10:17,090 --> 00:10:18,170 Second by Mr. Jordan. 152 00:10:18,330 --> 00:10:19,950 Is there any other discussion on this item? 153 00:10:20,490 --> 00:10:22,490 We have asked for public comment seeing none. 154 00:10:22,690 --> 00:10:24,450 All those in favor please signify by saying aye. 155 00:10:24,450 --> 00:10:28,370 Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. 156 00:10:30,050 --> 00:10:31,530 Ms. Dura, I said aye. 157 00:10:31,890 --> 00:10:33,110 Yes. Thank you. Thank you so much. 158 00:10:33,630 --> 00:10:36,370 And if I don't hear you, I'm going to assume that you're an aye, 159 00:10:36,510 --> 00:10:40,190 but I know that you're online unless Ms. Folsom tells me otherwise. 160 00:10:40,810 --> 00:10:42,350 No, that's fine. Great. Thank you. 161 00:10:42,570 --> 00:10:43,150 Thank you so much. 162 00:10:45,050 --> 00:10:46,330 Yes. No, no. I understand. 163 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:49,070 Unless you tell me otherwise, Ms. Folsom, I'll assume that she's there. 164 00:10:49,070 --> 00:10:57,910 That takes us board to item number eight, presentation of financial performance of the first quarter fiscal year 2022, Mr. Bowman. 165 00:10:58,150 --> 00:10:59,750 You are still in the hot seat. 166 00:11:00,730 --> 00:11:03,310 Bill here. Hello again. Matt Bowman, again for the record. 167 00:11:04,170 --> 00:11:06,410 So this is our first quarter financial update. 168 00:11:07,190 --> 00:11:12,790 Like you're used to seeing, this takes our financial results for a period of time. 169 00:11:13,010 --> 00:11:15,330 We're looking at July, August, it's September of the fiscal year. 170 00:11:15,330 --> 00:11:18,010 and we compare it to budget for the same period 171 00:11:18,010 --> 00:11:19,610 and then prior year for the same period. 172 00:11:19,870 --> 00:11:23,410 So it's the same type of report that I typically 173 00:11:23,410 --> 00:11:27,050 present each quarter, I'll just be focusing mainly 174 00:11:27,050 --> 00:11:28,310 on comparisons to budget. 175 00:11:29,150 --> 00:11:30,850 And the takeaways here for this quarter 176 00:11:30,850 --> 00:11:32,870 is that we're in good shape, no big surprises. 177 00:11:33,350 --> 00:11:35,930 That's kind of the thing I want to be able to say 178 00:11:35,930 --> 00:11:38,850 every quarter, first quarter wasn't any different. 179 00:11:40,450 --> 00:11:43,330 You can see on the first page we're about $4 million 180 00:11:43,330 --> 00:11:48,690 dollars over budget on our change in that position about 18% that's sort of the bottom line. 181 00:11:49,170 --> 00:11:54,590 So what's impacting the bottom line on the positive side water sales are in line with budget 182 00:11:54,590 --> 00:12:00,250 we're about 1% over budget for the quarter operating expenses in total we're about 4% 183 00:12:00,250 --> 00:12:07,410 under budget capital contributions were higher than budget on the negative side slightly lower 184 00:12:07,410 --> 00:12:10,690 investment income during the quarter and we had a fair value investment loss. 185 00:12:11,350 --> 00:12:16,950 So I'll unpack that just at a pretty high level now if we want to go to page two of the 186 00:12:16,950 --> 00:12:17,490 staff report. 187 00:12:17,930 --> 00:12:24,390 The first table is operating revenues and here you can see that water sales were within 188 00:12:24,390 --> 00:12:26,170 one percent of budget which is good. 189 00:12:26,290 --> 00:12:26,730 It's always good. 190 00:12:27,030 --> 00:12:30,890 It's nice to just recognize what you had planned and it helps everything along. 191 00:12:32,050 --> 00:12:34,430 Hydroelectric revenue you can see was down 27 percent. 192 00:12:34,730 --> 00:12:36,650 That was because we had lower river flows during the quarter. 193 00:12:37,210 --> 00:12:40,490 We had planned for it but we ended up having to shut the plants down a little sooner than 194 00:12:40,490 --> 00:12:45,450 we had even budgeted for. But then what was interesting is because of all the rain we got in 195 00:12:45,450 --> 00:12:49,350 October, we actually got to turn them back on again, which doesn't typically happen in the fall 196 00:12:49,830 --> 00:12:55,530 like that. So we got to turn them back on for a while. They're back off now as the river flows have 197 00:12:55,530 --> 00:12:59,790 dropped, but that was a little bit of a bonus because we didn't expect to be able to do that. 198 00:13:01,250 --> 00:13:06,070 Other operating sales you can see is quite a bit higher than budget. What's in here, we have higher 199 00:13:06,070 --> 00:13:13,490 late fees higher call out charges and most of that's due to the quarter from last fiscal year 200 00:13:13,490 --> 00:13:18,210 where we were in the pandemic and those we weren't charging late fees. We didn't have a lot of call 201 00:13:18,210 --> 00:13:23,350 outs. We frankly probably under budgeted a little bit there because we really saw an increase 202 00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:28,510 this quarter. We'll keep an eye on that through the year but I expect that the level off to some 203 00:13:28,510 --> 00:13:35,070 extent. Not big dollars you can see that that's two percent or so or total operating revenue. 204 00:13:36,910 --> 00:13:42,870 We'll go to operating expenses which is on the next page. Nothing too significant to note here. 205 00:13:43,070 --> 00:13:47,730 We're four percent under in total. I do want to point out that we're keeping an eye on price 206 00:13:47,730 --> 00:13:52,930 increases and services and supplies. Just what does that mean for us? What are we seeing? 207 00:13:52,930 --> 00:13:58,670 being mostly anecdotal at this point but you know we'll see what it looks like after 208 00:13:58,670 --> 00:14:03,470 the next quarter and I wouldn't expect it but you know worst case scenario we'd have 209 00:14:03,470 --> 00:14:05,870 a budget augmentation and really have to look at that. 210 00:14:06,690 --> 00:14:10,650 On services and supplies you can see that we're actually 1% over budget on that line that's 211 00:14:10,650 --> 00:14:16,350 the third line in that first group and a lot that's due to timing. 212 00:14:16,510 --> 00:14:21,150 We're actually if I went through the detail and we're actually 4% under budget if we take 213 00:14:21,150 --> 00:14:24,510 out some timing related things that we budgeted even late throughout the year, but recognize 214 00:14:24,510 --> 00:14:29,750 a lot of those costs up front. So, we're looking good at this point, but, again, keeping 215 00:14:29,750 --> 00:14:36,770 a close eye on that category in the week is a price increases. And if we go to the next 216 00:14:36,770 --> 00:14:42,270 page, which is not operating expenses, nothing of much significance here. I mentioned fair value 217 00:14:42,270 --> 00:14:47,850 investment loss. That's really what's driving that interest expenses in this category. 218 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:51,130 It's 219 00:14:51,130 --> 00:14:58,450 So our interest expense is basically all fixed so we should always be very close to budget in that category 220 00:15:00,980 --> 00:15:29,120 The last part of the income statement on the last page is capital contributions and you can see here we're quite a bit over budget, 26%. But more than half of that is developer infrastructure contributions, which is the third line down. And this really fluctuates throughout the year timing wise, we had a pretty low fourth quarter. And I think we caught up quite a bit there with just projects wrapping up, getting mapped and added into our fix asset ledger, and that's what drives that. 221 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:34,220 It's non-cache, it's developers constructing assets and dedicating to TUM-1, we recognize them. 222 00:15:34,940 --> 00:15:38,900 So you can see that's quite a bit higher. I expect that'll probably level off during the year, 223 00:15:38,940 --> 00:15:43,440 though. And then the other one that's up quite a bit is developer facility charges, 224 00:15:44,060 --> 00:15:50,660 and that's supply treatment and storage. The volume of projects that we had revenue coming in during 225 00:15:50,660 --> 00:15:56,280 the quarter was pretty comparable to the quarter of last fiscal year, but we had some just higher 226 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:01,740 dollar projects coming through the door and that's another one that is difficult to predict and 227 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,720 you know can fluctuate but I think at this point there's no reason that we wouldn't expect to be 228 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:13,400 close to budget throughout the balance of the year and that category as well. Last thing I want 229 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:20,360 to point out the first line of that category is grants and we had some good news we just signed our 230 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:28,680 award for our FEMA grant from the 2017 flood for the Glendale Diversion, which we repaired 231 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:34,140 that and had applied for FEMA money. We had to go through a bunch of processes. This process 232 00:16:34,140 --> 00:16:39,760 called a version change request, but we did all of that. It just got the award and it's going 233 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:46,040 to be $1.7 million that we'll be receiving and recognizing in Q2 of grant revenue. So good news. 234 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,980 we've been waiting and waiting for that one. So I'm excited that that's finally come through. 235 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:57,380 So that's the big stuff. Be happy to answer any questions. Again, take away is that there's a 236 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:04,700 pretty good quarter as expected. No big surprises. Okay. Good. Not surprised with FEMA. 237 00:17:06,220 --> 00:17:12,100 Yeah. Yeah. All of those large governmental agencies, BLM FEMA, they all move at glacial 238 00:17:12,700 --> 00:17:20,640 speeds in my opinion fast tracking is I think that's fast for years is yeah I 239 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,180 will point out this date of Nevada division of emergency management was very 240 00:17:25,180 --> 00:17:29,540 helpful throughout that process and really spent a lot of time with us 241 00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:33,060 helping us understand what we needed to do right right right right they 242 00:17:33,060 --> 00:17:35,560 I give them a lot of credit for just kind of holding their hand walk in a 243 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:41,520 suit because they were very helpful our our capital contributions portion of 244 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,820 this presentation is is is that potentially a canary in the coal mine? Are we starting 245 00:17:46,820 --> 00:17:52,080 to see things sort of slowed down in the developmental community a little bit? 246 00:17:52,820 --> 00:17:58,380 Not on the financial side. Okay. No, we're not. And I think 247 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:03,780 Scott's group could attest that probably not in just their activity in the volume of what 248 00:18:03,780 --> 00:18:07,140 they're processing at this point. It's just it's just when they're when they're making 249 00:18:07,140 --> 00:18:08,820 in the contributions, is that what's happened? 250 00:18:08,940 --> 00:18:12,820 Yeah, yeah, so yeah, talking about the actual infrastructure 251 00:18:14,140 --> 00:18:17,160 contributions, yes, and that also there's timing in there 252 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,360 as to when things are inspected and mapped 253 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:23,340 and put into our GIS system, and then recognize. 254 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,720 So it's, there can be a little bit of a lag as well. 255 00:18:26,820 --> 00:18:29,120 Yes, there can be, that's exactly right, there can be a lag. 256 00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:29,540 Understood. 257 00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:31,120 Questions for Mr. Bowman? 258 00:18:34,030 --> 00:18:36,730 Actually, just a comment, I want to say, 259 00:18:36,730 --> 00:18:43,510 And I'm confident I've told you this before, but I truly appreciate the quality of what you provide for us. 260 00:18:44,050 --> 00:18:53,790 I love that not only do you provide the data, but you anticipate our questions, and in your summary there, you pretty much most of the time answer mine, at least. 261 00:18:53,790 --> 00:18:56,010 And I just want to say great job. Thank you. 262 00:18:57,290 --> 00:19:00,250 Well done. I'm a story. Do you have any questions for Mr. Bowman? 263 00:19:01,690 --> 00:19:04,550 So again, a great job. Appreciate all the info. 264 00:19:05,090 --> 00:19:06,410 Okay. All right. 265 00:19:08,450 --> 00:19:11,790 So what is it that you need from us? This is an action item. 266 00:19:13,050 --> 00:19:15,710 It's just informational. You don't need us to accept the report. 267 00:19:17,310 --> 00:19:19,890 Okay. We're all good. Okay. Wonderful. 268 00:19:20,670 --> 00:19:23,670 Thank you so much. All right. We will close. 269 00:19:25,250 --> 00:19:28,290 Item number eight, and that takes us to item number nine. 270 00:19:28,290 --> 00:19:39,990 Discussion and action and possible direction to staff regarding the approval of an interlocal agreement between come one the city of Reno on construction and operation of the American flat advanced purified water demonstration facility Mr. N. Low 271 00:19:41,450 --> 00:19:44,050 Steph Morris, Miss Morris, and Mr. Bowman 272 00:19:45,490 --> 00:19:52,670 Mr. N. Low, there is Mr. N. Low, okay. I see I didn't see three three faces. Welcome the floor is yours 273 00:19:52,670 --> 00:19:59,810 That's more for the record Water Resources Manager. I am going to air on the side of brevity 274 00:19:59,810 --> 00:20:06,930 because this project has been presented to the board as well as the terms of the ILA. 275 00:20:07,710 --> 00:20:12,270 But I will give a high level summary and we're happy to answer any questions. 276 00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:18,350 The item before you is to authorize an interlocal agreement with the City of Reno. 277 00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:28,170 And that is for the design and construction of the one water Nevada advanced purified water demonstration project at American flat a very long name. 278 00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:36,230 At any rate, Reno City Reno was presented the ILA and they approved it in their on their November board meeting. 279 00:20:36,990 --> 00:20:46,210 And the terms are summarized in the staff report and they are consistent with what was presented by Mr. Bowman at our last report at our last board meeting. 280 00:20:46,210 --> 00:20:49,410 and you can find the deal points there. 281 00:20:51,050 --> 00:20:55,410 Largely, the construction and design is divided for cost 282 00:20:55,410 --> 00:21:00,890 and the planning and design 70% to Reno, 30% to Tomwa. 283 00:21:01,670 --> 00:21:05,770 The ongoing operations maintenance are split evenly. 284 00:21:06,550 --> 00:21:09,970 The water rights revenue that could be generated from the project 285 00:21:09,970 --> 00:21:14,710 are allocated 60% to City of Reno and 40% to Tomwa. 286 00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:21,590 And then the replacement cost allocation is by facility, some are 50-50, and others are 287 00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:25,470 the sole responsibility of Tumblr and the sole responsibility of City of Reno. 288 00:21:26,570 --> 00:21:34,210 The way that the cost we're allocated was to sort of acknowledge the need that the City 289 00:21:34,210 --> 00:21:40,750 of Reno had early on to deal with the effluent management, and Tumblr's longer range needs 290 00:21:40,750 --> 00:21:45,330 needs for water resiliency and their firstifying our portfolio. 291 00:21:46,050 --> 00:21:49,530 So that's largely the cost allocation. 292 00:21:49,810 --> 00:21:53,090 That was what Mr. Bowman presented when he presented the financial models. 293 00:21:53,810 --> 00:21:59,370 There are obviously broad regional benefits, and those are covered on page two of the staff 294 00:21:59,370 --> 00:22:03,330 report, including a local reliable drop-proof water supply. 295 00:22:04,590 --> 00:22:10,230 In the ILA itself, there are a couple of things of interest that maybe we hadn't focused 296 00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:11,690 done before that I'll just point out. 297 00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:15,290 One is that all of the grants or loan forgiveness 298 00:22:15,290 --> 00:22:18,450 that are received and for the project are also allocated 299 00:22:18,450 --> 00:22:21,510 in the 70% to Reno, 30% to Tumblr. 300 00:22:22,190 --> 00:22:26,390 We are actively and aggressively pursuing grant monies, 301 00:22:26,570 --> 00:22:29,010 and there are a lot that are becoming available 302 00:22:29,010 --> 00:22:30,890 with the Federal Infrastructure Act. 303 00:22:31,610 --> 00:22:34,770 So we will continue to do that as best that we can. 304 00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:39,430 In addition to that, I just wanna note that approving 305 00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:45,910 the ILA. It doesn't allow the parties, Reno, and Tamba to move forward with the full project implementation. 306 00:22:46,850 --> 00:22:51,610 However, it does provide for the cost allocation and responsibility should the project move forward, 307 00:22:51,910 --> 00:23:00,250 and it does commit the parties to completing the planning and design. And if you look in the ILA itself 308 00:23:00,250 --> 00:23:07,170 at the first exhibit, it has the overall cost of the project. And I think Mr. Roman presented the 309 00:23:07,170 --> 00:23:11,350 financial model in great detail at our last board meeting but we are both 310 00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:15,170 available as well as Mr. M. Lowe to answer any questions you might have. 311 00:23:16,210 --> 00:23:24,880 All right, let's go ahead. I'll before is yours. Oh, there are green 312 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:33,020 green works, right? Okay, thanks. It's different over at Walshow County. So I am 313 00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:37,060 going to repeat some questions that I've been asking over at the City of 314 00:23:37,060 --> 00:23:42,400 Reno. I don't think you'll have the answers, but I think they're good questions to have 315 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:51,680 for Tomoa to know how our partner is doing and our partner is Reno. And I view of us 316 00:23:51,680 --> 00:24:01,400 where both hats. So number one, and they're all fiscal. So except for a couple actually, 317 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,100 I'll say, most are fiscal. 318 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,820 Now under Reno's current rate structure, 319 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:11,900 what are the revenue projections to pay this debt? 320 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,260 And so if you had a model of Reno sewer rates coming in 321 00:24:18,260 --> 00:24:22,940 for the next 5, 10 years, how much debt 322 00:24:22,940 --> 00:24:26,620 is Reno going to be paying off for this project? 323 00:24:26,740 --> 00:24:29,020 Because they have taken already $65 million 324 00:24:29,020 --> 00:24:35,120 dollars for the expansion and this comes with on Exhibit A, another debt in 325 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:40,680 Conference, is have you seen the revenues that Reno shows on their books to be 326 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,980 able to pay for this debt and for paying for all the management of the 327 00:24:43,980 --> 00:24:47,420 collection system? That's number one question to you all about the partner you have. 328 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:55,080 Number two is when Reno pays this debt how are they allocating that payment? Is it 329 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,440 from connection fees or is it from rates? 330 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,380 And I just as a side, have you looked at Reno's connection fees recently? 331 00:25:03,660 --> 00:25:07,160 Sparks has gone up 14% in the last 12 years. 332 00:25:07,460 --> 00:25:09,400 Reno has kept them flat for 10 or 12 years. 333 00:25:10,060 --> 00:25:11,940 So is your partner going to have the money 334 00:25:11,940 --> 00:25:16,320 and the resources to pay debt when they don't raise rates, okay? 335 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,040 They keep rates stagnant in contrast to other jurisdictions. 336 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:27,340 Now, when you look at this Rizworth and Reno's ability to pay for this project, are you 337 00:25:27,340 --> 00:25:30,460 also looking at their projections for their expenses to Tumblr? 338 00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:37,360 Because I understand Tumblr just included a capital plan that has some numbers and want 339 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:42,800 to know if Reno's financialors are going to be encountering and projecting both of these 340 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,020 expenses at both plants. 341 00:25:44,620 --> 00:25:51,340 I've also continued to ask and are very curious here about the sewer shed for this. 342 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,860 So you're taking effluent from what sewer shed? 343 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,540 I'd like to see the land and the land use assumptions that you think you're going to be recycling 344 00:25:59,540 --> 00:25:59,940 water. 345 00:26:00,860 --> 00:26:01,720 How much is existing? 346 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,000 How much is plant development? 347 00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:04,680 How much is development? 348 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,680 That's land that, you know, what is the status of this sewer shed? 349 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,180 I think that is a very material question for Tumla. 350 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,880 And I'd also like to know what the Cold Springs plant that the Washington County Utilities 351 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:21,000 has is contemplated in this and Washington County's lemon plant. 352 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,800 So I think those are good questions for Tom Warf to understand and be able to tell 353 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,620 the public where you're getting this affluent from. 354 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:37,660 Now one thing also about Reno's fiscal is Reno has an agreement with Stomwarf to sewer 355 00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:44,240 a portion of Reno. And that money all goes to the county for their wash-ow county utilities. 356 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,940 It doesn't pay for the collection debt. So when Reno repays this debt, are they modifying 357 00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:53,800 that agreement with wash-ow county? And that might be something the county people want 358 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:59,900 to ask too, because when you look at your sewer fund revenues, you get just checks coming 359 00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:05,580 from Reno. But that doesn't pay back for this debt. That's very interesting. And can Reno 360 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:12,780 You know, continue to afford that arrangement and pay for this debt when they're sending all their money over to the county for a summer. 361 00:27:13,770 --> 00:27:24,400 I've also, Reno's about to stand up a stormwater utility, which will take money that's now going to pay for that for stormwater utility through the sewer fund. 362 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,920 And I'm wondering if the financial modeling for your partner has taken that into account. 363 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:37,400 Now, finally, and this is this and the sewer shed questions I think are the most important 364 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,420 to TAMWA, although of course TAMWA should have confidence in the financial abilities 365 00:27:42,420 --> 00:27:43,720 and projections of your partner. 366 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:51,060 I am very confused because it looks like the financial modeling here shows revenue for water 367 00:27:51,060 --> 00:27:54,920 sales, and that's, you know, the water portfolio is mentioned. 368 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,740 But I cannot understand how this integrates with the Vidler water. 369 00:28:00,020 --> 00:28:01,940 So how is water going to be sold? 370 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:08,500 If I'm customer Jenny in your watershed area that you're going to show the sewer shed, 371 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,300 and I've got land over here and I want to buy it, who am I going to buy it from? 372 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,580 And how does that work? 373 00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:15,900 Do I buy it from Vidler? 374 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,920 That's been sitting with an asset here and all these agreements that we accounted from 375 00:28:20,980 --> 00:28:23,920 or am I going to go to you and say how won't your reclaimed water? 376 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:30,120 I'm really trying to understand that and the ability of these waters to flow basins. 377 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:37,580 So, I won't be supporting the model or the agreement, but I want everyone to know why. 378 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,420 It's really foremost, I've asked a lot of here. 379 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:44,580 I've been asking these for probably three years, these questions. 380 00:28:45,060 --> 00:28:46,660 I finally have a slide I'm carrying around. 381 00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:55,680 But hopefully I've provoked some thought for you all too, but it's just not, I'm afraid 382 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,240 that we're moving forward, Reno in particular, taking on a lot of debt without showing on 383 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,720 the back end what the payment's going to be, and the big surprise is going to be some 384 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,520 rate analysis to Reno ratepayers. 385 00:29:07,980 --> 00:29:11,300 They're kind of out of sync at this point, and that's my number one problem. 386 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,280 Thank you. 387 00:29:15,980 --> 00:29:22,180 I recognize that you are not in a position to answer most of those questions of financial 388 00:29:22,180 --> 00:29:24,300 status and et cetera. 389 00:29:24,580 --> 00:29:32,160 So if there are pieces of her questions that you can answer, you may, but there were 390 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:37,640 many questions in there that I just don't believe that Tomois is in a position to make a comment 391 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:37,920 on. 392 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,700 That's my that's my particular take on on the questions that were asked 393 00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:46,360 Yeah, I would say on the the financial 394 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,120 Questions certainly what you said and that someone needs to have confidence in their partner any kind of agreement 395 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:58,600 And that's that is the key and I think we do at this point, but again, we're not moving forward with the project yet 396 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,040 So, we, we wouldn't move forward if we did not have that confidence in our partner to this agreement. 397 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:27,560 Yes. So, has this gone before Reno? Are we improved? Yes. Okay. Well, that answers the question that I needed. Thank you. Yeah. The ILA was approved. And so now comes to us. Yes. And so with that said, I think we stand with our jurisdiction at large. 398 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,800 and I encourage us to do so. Thank you. 399 00:30:33,740 --> 00:30:35,780 We're on item number nine, Mr. Jordan. 400 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,500 Mr. Ward, do you have any questions for staff? 401 00:30:39,860 --> 00:30:44,540 Yeah, yeah. I wanted to say that I definitely supported this over at Reno. 402 00:30:45,580 --> 00:30:49,880 When we voted on it, the only one thing and it must be the same. 403 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,060 I assume it's the same. 404 00:30:52,060 --> 00:30:55,220 I had a question about the 405 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:14,980 the number two, the construction cost of future effluent reuse transmission mean. I didn't remember that that was 100% Reno. It probably was. I'm sure it must be the same identical contract that we agreed to over Reno. I don't think there's any changes. I just want to confirm. 406 00:31:15,620 --> 00:31:16,440 That's correct. 407 00:31:17,620 --> 00:31:17,820 Okay. 408 00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:21,480 And I will just say, come and I sit over there. 409 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,880 I think now more than ever. 410 00:31:24,780 --> 00:31:29,140 And I said over there that I really talk about my past as the state water planner. 411 00:31:29,740 --> 00:31:32,860 But in this case, it seems relevant in that. 412 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,660 Back then, which was the 90s to the 2000s. 413 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,400 I was a huge advocate of underground storage. 414 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:59,980 And I continue to be a huge advocate of underground storage as a water supply source in that it has, it really protects the water from the vibration, the app of transpiration. 415 00:31:59,980 --> 00:32:08,640 Just this weekend, I saw an article by Lawrence Berkeley Labs that did a projection on our snowpack 416 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:16,080 and I sent the article over to Mr. Foray to distribute to staff, but the sum and substance of it was 417 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:25,000 that they were predicting that our Sierra snowpack would be severely reduced if not completely decreased 418 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:31,020 within 25 years and I based on that I mean that's the first article I've seen 419 00:32:31,020 --> 00:32:34,680 to that effect. I mean I've seen many other articles about climate change but 420 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:40,920 that's the first one I've seen specifically about this year's and I just feel 421 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:46,420 it's ever more important that we work on expanding our underground storage and 422 00:32:46,420 --> 00:32:52,120 creating additional or new sources of water. This obviously is one this is 423 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,880 is taking treated affluent, treating it to a plus plus standard, 424 00:32:56,420 --> 00:32:58,600 and then storing it underground for future use. 425 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,840 And I know that that aquifer underground has a limit to, 426 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,580 and I think our staff had said that that would fill 427 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,600 potentially within the first five years. 428 00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:11,160 But it is a good and replenishable, 429 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,460 and that we're going to keep using, 430 00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:14,840 or keep creating affluent. 431 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,260 Therefore, we could probably keep treating it 432 00:33:18,910 --> 00:33:20,400 to this a plus plus standard. 433 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:30,720 So I think it's really important to start doing things like this, especially, I mean, I was absolutely stunned with this article about the potential impact on our snow packs. 434 00:33:31,060 --> 00:33:33,260 So I just want to reiterate my support. 435 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,160 I did just so you know, went over this with our staff. 436 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:46,160 I had a number of questions about the cost share with both wearing my Reno hat and my Tom Wahad, as you can imagine, I have to balance both sides. 437 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:53,180 But I do feel like they came up with a pretty good split. So that's that's what I had it today for the good of the order 438 00:33:54,940 --> 00:33:56,460 Okay, thank you. Thank you 439 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,600 Anyone else 440 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,880 Hold on just a second 441 00:34:02,980 --> 00:34:07,520 Okay, no one else that hasn't spoke yet. Okay, let me let me jump in first Miss Brekis 442 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:13,760 And then I'll allow you to so we're gonna create approximately this is gonna create approximately 2,000 acre feet of storage 443 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,020 For some reason I thought we had a 444 00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:17,800 Approximately 10,000 445 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,680 10,000 in that aquifer 446 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,620 10,000 in the aquifer because I 447 00:34:22,620 --> 00:34:24,920 Thought it was much higher than that but 448 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,160 So so but it's 2,000 under item 4 it's 449 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,060 2,000 acre feet for potential revenue 450 00:34:31,060 --> 00:34:33,200 And for potential revenues 451 00:34:34,060 --> 00:34:35,260 That's right because 452 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,080 Sorry go ahead 453 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,020 No, no that's that is that is that 454 00:34:41,020 --> 00:34:46,680 was portion? It's two thousand acre feet total that the project would generate 455 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:53,060 annually when at full build out but with the aquifer where we can store it is 456 00:34:53,060 --> 00:34:58,820 ten thousand so year after year if we aren't selling that water if we are we 457 00:34:58,820 --> 00:35:03,620 can also be storing it for future extraction so all the water essentially is 458 00:35:03,620 --> 00:35:06,880 filtered and stored in the groundwater basin and pumped out. 459 00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:10,620 Okay to Miss 460 00:35:10,620 --> 00:35:12,160 And it's a good point. 461 00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:19,280 It's a very salient comment about how does this jive 462 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:19,720 with Viddler? 463 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,140 Now we're in now competition with Viddler water. 464 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:26,400 And I realize that Viddler water is coming into play 465 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:34,000 to fund this, not in the literal sense of fund, 466 00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:38,120 but in order to supply that water that gets reclaimed. 467 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,140 How does that fit together Mr. Emile? 468 00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:42,240 Hi, John Emile for the record. 469 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,180 So a good question regarding Vidler. 470 00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:50,940 We've had some initial discussions with Vidler because I mean, 471 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,940 we obviously don't want to necessarily compete with Vidler, 472 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:02,240 but this would be complimentary to their water and their project. 473 00:36:02,540 --> 00:36:06,160 So what we have contemplated in the agreement, 474 00:36:08,420 --> 00:36:19,800 is finalized yet, I would expect that we would bring it back for board approval at some point in the future, but we have contemplated a kind of a combination of resources. 475 00:36:20,140 --> 00:36:32,360 So say if someone requires 10 acre feet of water, what we may do is something like two thirds, fish, rings, water, one third, this water, that type of thing. 476 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:41,540 At we would end up selling this water, the A plus water at the same price as what 477 00:36:41,540 --> 00:36:49,140 Vidr is selling their water for. And I believe Matt in the financial model, we've made some 478 00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:55,880 pretty conservative assumptions, conservative being low, that we would start by selling 479 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:06,520 50 acre feet a year of this A plus water and it would take 20 plus years to be able to sell the full 480 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:15,380 2,000 acre feet that this project would generate but that excess water of this A plus water. So 481 00:37:15,380 --> 00:37:22,420 we were talking, Steph was talking about so 2 million gallons a day will generate approximately 482 00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:32,600 a year that we will be able to issue will serve commitments 483 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,160 against that water. 484 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,960 So there's a revenue stream just like anybody else who's buying 485 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,880 real seven water or fish springs water. 486 00:37:41,420 --> 00:37:44,820 So we have taken into account in our financial model 487 00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:46,760 that we would sell. 488 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,420 When did it start? 489 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,420 2028 I think was what we assumed. 490 00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:52,340 58. 491 00:37:52,340 --> 00:38:01,660 acre feet of this A plus water, complementary to the water that it springs is selling at 492 00:38:01,660 --> 00:38:09,380 the same price, and then the revenue from that 50 acre feet of water would basically go 493 00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:18,140 back to Tomah and Reno at that 60-40 split, 60 percent to Reno, 40 percent to Tomah. 494 00:38:18,140 --> 00:38:28,420 So one of the things we do want to do is formalize this kind of water rights strategy at some point in the future. 495 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:32,860 This is just something that we've discussed and have modeled thus far. 496 00:38:33,060 --> 00:38:37,340 And I know Vidler would like to see it kind of formalized as well. 497 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:38,100 Okay. 498 00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:39,760 All right. 499 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:40,480 Thank you. 500 00:38:41,020 --> 00:38:42,240 Yes, Mr. Ford. 501 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:48,100 I think logistically to do that with what Mr. Ann was talking about, we would just need to 502 00:38:48,720 --> 00:38:55,220 modify rule seven. I believe that is the water rights rule, the water rights dedication rule. 503 00:38:56,020 --> 00:38:58,440 Certainly with discussions with Hitler, but 504 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,400 as far as what we would need to do to implement that, that's a pretty simple 505 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:10,440 simple. Does modifying rule seven only entail this border? Does it have to go to the state as well? 506 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,640 No, the dedication requirements would be the same, so it's really just a determination 507 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,520 by this board. 508 00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:16,920 Okay. 509 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:17,560 Thank you. 510 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:18,160 All right. 511 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,620 As for this, floor is yours. 512 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,080 Thank you. 513 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:21,740 Okay. 514 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,320 You know, I appreciate the conversation on that. 515 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,320 For me, it's all, you know, with infrastructure, how are we advancing our other goals, our 516 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,080 land use goals? 517 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:39,380 And before I started to think about some arrangement for the bidler versus this water, I may 518 00:39:39,380 --> 00:39:46,860 They actually want to have an understanding of how, in the whole concept of the valley 519 00:39:46,860 --> 00:39:52,960 and its growth, its redevelopment, the threats it has from, you know, maybe snow-packed 520 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:59,920 deteriorating to the degree misduer saying is, you know, if you keep it all up in this 521 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:04,080 valley, the bitter water in this water, is that the best way to advance the land use patterns 522 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,060 that we're trying to develop? 523 00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:09,080 That's why I'm really curious about the sewer shed boundary, which I still have not 524 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:16,600 seen. And so, you know, I think it's a bigger conversation to talk about how and where to 525 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:22,180 deploy this water. And it gets to, you know, you're always talking about redundancy in the system. 526 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,620 But when you're talking about this, I'm not hearing like you have a redundant system. 527 00:40:27,580 --> 00:40:31,980 You know, what do you call it conjunctive use sort of system? So, you know, maybe there's 528 00:40:31,980 --> 00:40:37,220 basin problems. But the question I did want to ask because I saw it in here, I get the cost share. 529 00:40:37,220 --> 00:40:43,940 And it's because Reno needs it today, so when you need something today you'll pay, you know, more shipping costs or whatever. 530 00:40:44,540 --> 00:40:45,700 That's how I see it. 531 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:56,860 But that looks like this concept for a reservoir of $90 million red rock is off the table for Tom Watt to pay because it looks like a Reno issue. 532 00:40:57,260 --> 00:40:59,500 Likewise, we had a workshop a couple years ago. 533 00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:06,620 So I think it was a joint workshop with Tom Y. Even and the tribe, the colony tribe, 534 00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:10,900 came and talked about wanting water over to Hungary Valley. 535 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,980 And their lobbyists reached out to me last week. 536 00:41:12,980 --> 00:41:15,240 I didn't have any good answers to tell them. 537 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:21,780 So I'm trying to figure out, you want to put water in the ground and advance your portfolio, 538 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,640 Reno thinks they need a reservoir, and the tribe at least got some sort of go ahead from 539 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:34,760 this body to start exploring, getting water themselves. So, where is all that? How's that all 540 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:41,660 being conceptualized at this point? So, just briefly, the discussions between the Reno 541 00:41:41,660 --> 00:41:47,660 Sparks Indian colony have been solely with the City of Reno. Tumwa has not been involved in those 542 00:41:47,660 --> 00:41:55,920 discussions. My understanding and Mr. Flanzberg is in the audience who could address a detailed question 543 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:05,240 if the board so desires but the from my understanding Reno's first priority is this American flat 544 00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:14,280 project. Their second priority is the Red Rock Reservoir and expansion of their existing I'll just 545 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:21,520 refer it as their purple pipe system. Those are their two highest priorities going forward. The timing 546 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:28,600 of that Mr. Flansberg would have to speak to but the Reno's number one priority is this American 547 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,680 flat project that we're talking about today. That's fine. I don't need to hear from him because he's 548 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,660 going to be getting these questions tomorrow when he brings the ACOM contract back but I think 549 00:42:38,660 --> 00:42:45,940 there needs to be clear you know specification on what the plan is at this time to everyone 550 00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:49,600 and I appreciate that, thanks. 551 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,060 All right, is there any other discussion on this item? 552 00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:56,900 Madam Clerk, do we have any public comment? 553 00:42:59,290 --> 00:43:02,070 Is there anyone wishing to speak on item number 9? 554 00:43:03,890 --> 00:43:07,230 Okay, seeing none, I will close item number 9 and bring it back to the board. 555 00:43:07,870 --> 00:43:08,230 Mr. Ard. 556 00:43:10,290 --> 00:43:11,830 Did you open 9 and 10 together? 557 00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:15,630 No, no, 9 and 10 are not open together. 558 00:43:15,630 --> 00:43:20,710 10 a and 10 b I apologize if I was okay 559 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,000 I'm looking looking for a motion 560 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:33,260 either in support of or in denial of this Mr. Chair I'll make a motion to 561 00:43:33,260 --> 00:43:38,860 support this item okay I have a motion by Mr. Doer to have a second I'll 562 00:43:38,860 --> 00:43:42,540 second it second by Mr. Dare so I have a motion and a second is there any other 563 00:43:42,540 --> 00:43:48,680 discussion seeing none all those in favor please signify by saying aye aye all 564 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:56,540 as opposed? Okay. Motion carries. What is it? We have five, six, two, one. I think. Is that 565 00:43:56,540 --> 00:44:03,520 what it is? One, two, five to one. Five to one. Forgive me. Okay. Thank you, staff. That 566 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:10,640 takes us to item number 10, which we will open 10A and 10V without objection by our legal 567 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:16,040 council. That is a public hearing on the rate amendments. Introduction to first reading 568 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,760 of the amendments, 10A, rather, is the introduction and first reading of amendments to 569 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:27,780 tumourate schedule WSF, water systems facility charges, revising area fee, supply and treatment, 570 00:44:27,980 --> 00:44:35,720 and storage unit costs. That's Mr. Estes, Ms. Sullivan, and Mr. Rotter, and then 10B is 571 00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:41,660 introduction and first reading of amendments to the tumourate schedule BSF, the business service fees. 572 00:44:42,660 --> 00:44:46,420 Also, Mr. Estes, Ms. Sullivan and Mr. Roder. 573 00:44:46,580 --> 00:44:50,000 So I will open those together and we have the public hearing open. 574 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,820 The floor is yours. 575 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:59,220 All right, thank you, Mr. Chair, Danny Roder for the Record Engineering Manager, Scott 576 00:44:59,220 --> 00:44:59,900 not handed the button. 577 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:28,360 Turn off to me, the last we saw you here. So he's done a lot of heavy lifting over the years, and I'm looking forward to bringing this forward into the future. Okay. So to give you a little bit of the update of what we've been up to since June, we proceeded to update our existing costs, update our existing growth that we've, the capacity that we've sold, we've updated our cost estimates for things going forward in the future. 578 00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:35,900 We reached out to the Builders Association in June and August, but we didn't hear back 579 00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:39,800 to be in front of their infrastructure and planning committee. 580 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:47,380 We reached out to the NAO, commercial developers association, and we presented them in September 581 00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:52,260 and had some feedback from them that changed something, and I'll mention that a little bit. 582 00:45:52,260 --> 00:45:58,820 But we had a public workshop at Tomaw on September 29th and then we presented in front of 583 00:45:58,820 --> 00:46:05,520 the SAC on October 5th and the representative from BAN was there and we said, hey, if 584 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,760 there's any follow-up, let us know and he was going to let us know that and we haven't 585 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,080 heard anything back since then. 586 00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:18,080 So we've gone over this before, but I'll just briefly for anybody listening or watching. 587 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:23,720 the process to update these as we take our current facility plans we review our 588 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:28,500 historical construction costs which we do have an increase that we're seeing 589 00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:32,140 everybody's heard about it they've talked about it so we took a look at that 590 00:46:32,140 --> 00:46:39,440 with recent bid results we update our future costs we update our existing costs 591 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:45,240 where we know we have actual costs that we've incurred and we know those and then 592 00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:50,780 And we update how much GPM has been sold in each area, and then we calculate the new 593 00:46:50,780 --> 00:46:51,340 unit costs. 594 00:46:51,620 --> 00:46:59,960 And so the calculation is that our actual costs, including finance charges and the cost 595 00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:06,460 of future facilities, minus our fees collected, is divided by the remaining GPM, and that's 596 00:47:06,460 --> 00:47:11,780 the remaining cost of growth, on a per GPM basis, for max data man. 597 00:47:11,780 --> 00:47:20,700 And so, the results are that some of them have gone up and a couple of them go down. 598 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:26,340 I'll point you, there's the red line in attachment A, which you can actually see each area, 599 00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:36,180 the per GPM amount for supply and treatment, storage, et cetera, and the actual table with 600 00:47:36,180 --> 00:47:43,660 comparisons is on attachment C in a per GPM format which a lot of folks it's 601 00:47:43,660 --> 00:47:48,160 kind of hard to wrap your mind around because it's not actually a per unit. So 602 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:55,640 what we did is on page 3 and page 4 you have an actual 6,000 square foot single 603 00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:02,700 family home in a number of areas around town and in a multi-family unit in a 604 00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:07,740 number of areas around town. And if you look at those, some areas like in 605 00:48:07,740 --> 00:48:14,920 Somerset and Kylie Ranch are down $82 and $29 per single family residence. But 606 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,960 then in other areas north valleys at 500 increase per single family unit 607 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:26,340 double diamond a thousand per single family unit on average 416 increase per 608 00:48:26,340 --> 00:48:36,580 single-family unit. And then the multi-family, they're again down 23-8 per multi-family unit, 609 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:47,020 average 117 per multi-family unit. So those are the current costs. I will, I mentioned earlier, 610 00:48:47,380 --> 00:48:55,480 when we met with NAYOP in September, one of their suggestions or one of their suggestions was 611 00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:01,360 to combine some of the areas and one guy even said just give me one area and he said well 612 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,080 that's not really apical because the feet just like we were talking about the infrastructure 613 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,180 to serve north valleys is different than the infrastructure to serve spanish springs is different 614 00:49:09,180 --> 00:49:14,620 from the infrastructure to serve south trucking meadows but we did take a look and um actually 615 00:49:14,620 --> 00:49:23,240 combined previous area 11 kind of the double diamond stem get east area with area 14 the stem 616 00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:30,540 get West, Thomas Creek area, Galena area, and so that was one thing we did do, so when 617 00:49:30,540 --> 00:49:35,260 you look at the WSF schedule, you'll see that there. 618 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:45,760 And then also along with all of this, you opened up 9A and 9B, 9B being the new business 619 00:49:46,220 --> 00:49:52,440 fees, the business service fees, and in our last update in 2018, we went through a process 620 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:59,640 us to really track accurately and precisely what it costs to inspect a project or review 621 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:07,820 plans or review water rights, et cetera, et cetera, and so that analysis was done also 622 00:50:08,420 --> 00:50:15,100 to actually pay for the costs incurred, the labor and overhead to actually do those things 623 00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:21,000 for view plans, provide planning, inspect, do hot taps, those sorts of things. 624 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:30,400 And so those were up quite a bit, the engineering categories up 76%, the water rights are up 34%, 625 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:36,240 the inspection and crew times are up 100%, specific to each project. 626 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,760 And one of the anecdotes I'll just share with you, you were talking with Mr. Bowman earlier on, 627 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,800 is this a canary on the coal mine? 628 00:50:43,260 --> 00:50:48,040 One of the things I've been looking at is our new business numbers, number of projects, 629 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:56,120 projects, and that has remained fairly flat, but the GPM per project has been going up. 630 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:02,500 So that means the projects are taking on more phases, more houses, more units per each 631 00:51:02,500 --> 00:51:02,980 project. 632 00:51:03,140 --> 00:51:07,940 So each project is getting bigger, which I think is also giving us some insight into each 633 00:51:07,940 --> 00:51:09,180 project takes longer. 634 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:14,580 So when you have an application fee, you're not reviewing smaller projects, you're reviewing 635 00:51:14,580 --> 00:51:15,440 bigger projects. 636 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,360 So I think that's also reflected in here. 637 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,280 I think that's it. 638 00:51:22,620 --> 00:51:23,620 I have Michelle here. 639 00:51:23,780 --> 00:51:26,400 If there's BSF fee questions, 640 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,600 and one thing I forgot to mention, 641 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:31,140 this is not existing customer rates. 642 00:51:31,420 --> 00:51:34,260 This is developer fees paid for by new business. 643 00:51:34,540 --> 00:51:35,320 Right, new business. 644 00:51:35,580 --> 00:51:37,980 New business fees, not customer rates. 645 00:51:37,980 --> 00:51:38,300 Correct. 646 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,240 Correct. 647 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,660 Good. I'm glad you made that clear 648 00:51:41,660 --> 00:51:44,680 because that was certainly going to be one of my first questions. 649 00:51:45,460 --> 00:51:51,920 So, with that, we'll answer any questions and Scott is here, but I have the baton, so. 650 00:51:52,340 --> 00:51:56,040 Okay. Well, in just a second, Mr. Doer, I see your hand up first, 651 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,080 hold on just a second. Yes, you're there and then you'll be second. 652 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,780 All right. I just wanted to, or along the lines that were just mentioned, 653 00:52:02,940 --> 00:52:08,900 I wanted to confirm when he said new business, is this mean new business connection fees? 654 00:52:10,060 --> 00:52:10,500 Correct. 655 00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:19,840 In fact, I would say a WSE, WSFV, a water system facility charge, is synonymous with connection fee. 656 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,060 Okay. Thank you so much. 657 00:52:22,220 --> 00:52:22,320 Yep. 658 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:24,020 Okay, thank you. 659 00:52:24,580 --> 00:52:25,520 Mr. Davis, floor choice. 660 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:32,740 So, one of the questions I have, just looking at what we saw before, that we're financially doing well, that things are going up. 661 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,980 And things of that fashion, it bequests the question of why are we raising rates over in this level. 662 00:52:37,980 --> 00:52:42,640 I know we talk about this probably every time we do this but I think it's it's 663 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,440 worthy of the conversation on our end to make sure that if we are going back 664 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,200 because in the very end I appreciate what you said that this isn't going to 665 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:55,340 existing come existing citizens at this point it's new but in the very end it just 666 00:52:55,340 --> 00:52:59,680 raises the cost of housing so in my mind maybe it doesn't but it seems like it 667 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,920 does so and we're raising this people are raising and we keep just seeing this 668 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,020 thing go to this level. 669 00:53:07,780 --> 00:53:12,420 Some point, we're already in a place where many of our own kids 670 00:53:12,420 --> 00:53:14,020 couldn't afford home if they wanted to live here. 671 00:53:14,620 --> 00:53:17,440 So how do we balance out that we know we're 672 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:18,360 doing well over here? 673 00:53:18,620 --> 00:53:19,620 We see this going on. 674 00:53:19,980 --> 00:53:23,760 And is there any way to allow this to come together? 675 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:25,580 Does that all make sense? 676 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,080 I understand your question, yeah. 677 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:32,980 I think in 2018, we were about 90 million. 678 00:53:33,740 --> 00:53:45,900 We did advance about $90 million to developers 80 to 90 and we're still at like 40 to 50 at this point where we have sunk costs that we have put into the system that we need. 679 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:52,900 We still are going to be expanding and we're still going to be putting money into this based on our CIP plan. 680 00:53:52,900 --> 00:53:58,800 But we still are, the developers still owe $40 to $50 million in infrastructure right now. 681 00:53:58,980 --> 00:54:06,200 So this is all part of the calculation of how there's only a limited amount of GPM per area. 682 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,740 And it's got to cover the cost of building that extension. 683 00:54:13,490 --> 00:54:19,430 So are we saying, nice again, I get that there are almost two separate funds in a sense of how our brain works. 684 00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:25,370 that works really well for bookkeepers and what's in countenance and all that you do. 685 00:54:25,870 --> 00:54:30,970 And the world I live in, this is turmoil altogether looking, you say you're making money over here. 686 00:54:31,050 --> 00:54:38,970 Is there ever a time that we could look and say we're not increasing this because we have this or we stuck with this being its own thing. 687 00:54:39,070 --> 00:54:42,950 Because I appreciate that we're doing well, so we say we're doing well. 688 00:54:43,050 --> 00:54:47,590 But now we're raising the cost to everybody who, because these new homes aren't just for 689 00:54:47,590 --> 00:54:54,510 people moving from another state, we're buying these new homes. It's driving these prices up. 690 00:54:55,930 --> 00:55:00,190 So real quick, Danny Rotter for the record. I have this discussion quite a bit 691 00:55:00,190 --> 00:55:06,110 and I added it Carson in previous years before and I would say that the 692 00:55:06,830 --> 00:55:11,890 for to continue this methodology and say that we've fronted costs and we're going to collect over time 693 00:55:11,890 --> 00:55:15,870 and that growth is going to pay that back. 694 00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:19,650 If we're going to strategize to lower these fees, 695 00:55:20,170 --> 00:55:23,510 the effect to me is that I'm not building 696 00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:24,730 as much growth facilities. 697 00:55:25,070 --> 00:55:27,170 I'm only focusing on our existing customer rates 698 00:55:27,170 --> 00:55:28,710 and I'm not staying ahead of growth 699 00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:31,770 so that when a growth comes in in South Trucke Meadows 700 00:55:31,770 --> 00:55:36,110 or North Spanish Springs, I say, I can't serve you right now. 701 00:55:36,250 --> 00:55:39,350 I have to build XYZ because I'm not going to get too far 702 00:55:39,350 --> 00:55:42,870 in front of myself with the dollars that she was talking about. 703 00:55:43,130 --> 00:55:48,930 So in my opinion it would be the effect of slowing down growth, slowing down those 704 00:55:48,930 --> 00:55:53,930 projects because we wouldn't continue to build growth further and further and further. 705 00:55:54,610 --> 00:55:57,050 Let me ask a question differently because I get what you're saying. 706 00:55:57,990 --> 00:56:04,310 So if we have any extra that we beyond what we normally thought we would get, is it possible 707 00:56:04,310 --> 00:56:09,290 to create any kind of funding on an area that says we're going to offset and try to help keep 708 00:56:09,290 --> 00:56:15,130 our prices down I get that everything has it's almost seems like this is its own drive we're not 709 00:56:15,130 --> 00:56:21,570 willing to mix it but I'm saying I am if we can try to hope bring prices to a better place now 710 00:56:21,570 --> 00:56:28,810 again I'm not an accountant and maybe I'm a nightmare but with that said if we I don't like seeing 711 00:56:28,810 --> 00:56:34,550 prices keep going up I mean obviously they're going to but I some of these are huge 105% increases 712 00:56:34,550 --> 00:56:40,210 that's huge. So anyway, those are my thoughts. I don't know if there's an answer or a thought, 713 00:56:40,370 --> 00:56:44,550 but I would, if we have extra over here, I don't want to just see prices going up just because it's 714 00:56:44,550 --> 00:56:48,990 its own lane. Is there a way to take what's here at all and say, hey, we're going to create a small 715 00:56:48,990 --> 00:56:53,970 like we did our rainy day fund. We have maybe a contingency fund helping to keep these prices 716 00:56:54,910 --> 00:57:00,910 where we're not seeing such a big hit. Is my question very specific that the customer rate should be 717 00:57:00,910 --> 00:57:03,710 based on what the customer cost. 718 00:57:04,570 --> 00:57:07,170 I'm sorry, is my mic on? 719 00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:08,770 Is Michelle Sullivan for the record? 720 00:57:09,610 --> 00:57:11,750 It's just, it's very specific that the customer needs 721 00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:15,030 to benefit, you know, and what he pays for 722 00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:18,950 or she is what it costs to deliver the water. 723 00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:21,070 And there's, it's almost like you have to keep 724 00:57:21,070 --> 00:57:23,330 the two fun separate growth pays for growth 725 00:57:23,330 --> 00:57:26,150 and customer pays for the delivery of water. 726 00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:28,830 So operating expenses, there's certain buckets 727 00:57:28,830 --> 00:57:32,650 It's that those are considered covered by the customer water rate. 728 00:57:32,810 --> 00:57:34,890 And then another bucket is covered by growth. 729 00:57:35,470 --> 00:57:39,050 And if you, growth is supposed to pay for growth. 730 00:57:39,050 --> 00:57:43,130 And if you do decide, there's no, there's no, you know, 731 00:57:43,370 --> 00:57:44,510 slush fund in the middle. 732 00:57:45,770 --> 00:57:49,470 So you can't just decide, well, I'm going to move money around. 733 00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:50,690 It's very specific. 734 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,960 Mr. Chairman, yeah, I'd like to expand on that. 735 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,380 Yes, they are two very separate funding mechanisms. 736 00:57:59,380 --> 00:58:05,660 The reasons one is to pay for water service on a monthly basis to customers. 737 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:11,900 They can't be intertwined because the board has a policy against cross subsidizing one to the other. 738 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,580 And if you look at the numbers at Miss Sullivan stated, 739 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:25,100 we were behind by about $90 million before our last increase in 2018. 740 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:26,220 We've knocked that in half. 741 00:58:26,220 --> 00:58:33,740 We cut that in half, we still have 45 million that we have fronted for the development community. 742 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,960 That means that when they are ready to build, they just have to pay fees. 743 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:44,200 They don't have to get together with five or six different developers and fund a $7 million project themselves. 744 00:58:45,140 --> 00:58:47,280 So that's kind of the nature of the beast. 745 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,260 And when you talk to, like Scott and I talked to, 746 00:58:51,260 --> 00:58:58,060 the ban, their committee about this three years ago, the alternative that Mr. 747 00:58:58,260 --> 00:59:06,160 Rotter mentioned was mentioned, and that was not the preferred option to them to have 748 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,620 to get together as different developer groups and fund big projects. 749 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:17,520 So it's all in all, nobody likes pricing increases, but we were seeing construction costs go up 750 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:27,660 significantly like everybody is and again the growth for growth requirement that we have 751 00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:33,580 here and the policy to not cross subsidize keeps those two really separate. So thank you. 752 00:59:33,980 --> 00:59:38,910 Thank you for the conversation. I just obviously concerned, but I understand. Thank you. 753 00:59:40,770 --> 00:59:49,010 I mean, what how I feel is this is a real good model, and it drives me nuts that it's 754 00:59:49,010 --> 00:59:53,730 not the same model that Reno's doing with their sewer fund, you know, their sewer 755 00:59:53,730 --> 00:59:59,830 fund is one area, their sewer fund has not even increased on a CPI, which I don't 756 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:28,660 And I think it's the best. Rates are increased on a CPI. Here you calibrate your rates to your CIP in a periodic manner. That's best practice, bar none. And so, you know, great. And when you get to talk about household costs, that's, you know, that does come into play. And I think it's even a best practice there because you have a firewall between the rates, which are household costs, reoccurring household costs. 757 01:00:28,660 --> 01:00:31,380 and these one times for housing production. 758 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,700 Reno has no firewall and three of my questions 759 01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:36,220 that I've been asking for three years 760 01:00:36,550 --> 01:00:38,800 are related to how debt for new growth 761 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,140 is gonna be paid, no answers. 762 01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:44,180 And ultimately it does come to the questions 763 01:00:44,180 --> 01:00:45,760 that one no one can afford to live here. 764 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:46,560 It's so expensive. 765 01:00:47,460 --> 01:00:49,800 Yeah, but I don't think it's fair to hit a water board up 766 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,260 for large macroeconomic trends 767 01:00:52,260 --> 01:00:54,680 that are generational, billionaires making more money, 768 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,400 of the investment in, you know, the middle and lower class increase in poverty. 769 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:06,140 I mean, that goes quickly to that point, but keeping a water board solvent in really best 770 01:01:06,140 --> 01:01:13,280 practices in planning for your costs is going to be so important in this Western mountain 771 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,740 scenario that Ms. Doer was talking about. 772 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,800 I mean, it's really a good practice. 773 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:24,400 I just wish Reno was doing that on the, on the effluent, but I'll tell you what, if they 774 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:31,680 We would not be doing those agreements because we would have a real cost on what that little treatment plant is going to be and when those 775 01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:39,960 Rooster when those cows come home to, you know, whatever roost missed my metaphors. It's going to be a real day in Reno. 776 01:01:41,540 --> 01:01:43,340 So thank you. 777 01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:43,860 Okay. 778 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,820 Mr. Charden, make like a tree and get out of here. 779 01:01:47,940 --> 01:01:48,580 Thank you very much. 780 01:01:48,580 --> 01:01:54,600 it cows graze. I'm just helping her. Sorry, I knew where she was going with that. I'm just getting 781 01:01:54,600 --> 01:02:01,040 the farm animals correct. So I guess I'm kind of in the middle on this. When I totally understand 782 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,260 and I'm supportive of it and I kind of see both sides as someone who fully understands the delicate 783 01:02:05,260 --> 01:02:11,200 balance of growth and the need to keep costs in check for them to be able to produce so we can get 784 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:18,220 more product to the market. I also understand this this very important concept of the growth 785 01:02:18,220 --> 01:02:24,020 of favor growth, but also whenever we have any project that comes before any public body. 786 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:32,940 The thing that we hear consistently is you need to put the infrastructure in before you 787 01:02:32,940 --> 01:02:34,160 build the whatever. 788 01:02:34,660 --> 01:02:39,020 You need to make sure certainly that it's not lagging behind it, and we get those sorts 789 01:02:39,020 --> 01:02:40,760 of communications with great regularity. 790 01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:47,180 Now this may not get us all the way to future build out before a stick bill, anything goes 791 01:02:47,180 --> 01:02:53,520 vertical, but it certainly gets us closer to that. And to me, that's the answer that we are – the 792 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:58,060 question that we are answering here today is moving in the direction of having the infrastructure 793 01:02:58,060 --> 01:03:03,840 in place so that the growth to meet our housing demands can occur, not have the lag, not have the 794 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:10,590 confusion and what's on the backs of the developers to solve the problem. So I totally get it. I don't 795 01:03:10,590 --> 01:03:13,890 like to see any fees go up, but totally understand. 796 01:03:14,170 --> 01:03:15,690 And again, this is growth, thank you, growth. 797 01:03:17,790 --> 01:03:20,930 OK, and look, and I concur, just 798 01:03:20,930 --> 01:03:23,250 to follow up and finish up here. 799 01:03:24,350 --> 01:03:26,750 I do not believe that we should be on the hook 800 01:03:26,750 --> 01:03:30,470 to front load any infrastructure at the municipalities. 801 01:03:31,150 --> 01:03:32,150 We get that all the time. 802 01:03:32,350 --> 01:03:35,050 You can't build this because the infrastructure doesn't exist. 803 01:03:35,470 --> 01:03:37,590 Well, it is a condition of approval. 804 01:03:37,910 --> 01:03:41,450 And this is sadly in 2021. 805 01:03:41,450 --> 01:03:44,490 one. This is the cost of doing business. I don't know whether any of you have 806 01:03:44,490 --> 01:03:49,290 noticed the cost of everything in the grocery store. I used to be able to get 807 01:03:49,290 --> 01:03:52,270 out of Costco for a hundred bucks. I can't get out of there now for under three 808 01:03:52,270 --> 01:03:55,470 hundred bucks. I get out for under three hundred bucks. I'm looking for a 809 01:03:55,470 --> 01:03:59,250 certificate. You know, some kind of a win. 810 01:04:01,310 --> 01:04:05,430 It's just the way it is now. So I'm also 811 01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:10,670 supportive of this, but I understand there's a it's a delicate balance of it's 812 01:04:10,670 --> 01:04:19,470 this constant spiral upwards, but what we're looking for today is what's written in our staff 813 01:04:19,470 --> 01:04:27,070 report. That's what's in front of us. As we have this conversation, Madam Clerk, do we have 814 01:04:27,070 --> 01:04:30,030 anyone else who would like to chime in under public comment? 815 01:04:32,220 --> 01:04:33,980 Is there anyone wishing to speak under 816 01:04:33,980 --> 01:04:41,660 public comment? Okay, so what staff is asking us for is a first reading with a second reading 817 01:04:41,660 --> 01:04:46,400 an adoption on the first reading today, a second reading and adoption on January 29th 818 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:52,460 with an effective date of Monday, January 31st, 2022, or January 19th, rather. 819 01:04:53,260 --> 01:04:56,720 Let me rephrase that, a second reading and adoption of these rates at the Board's 820 01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:03,020 January 19th, 2022 meeting, forgive me for that, that misstep, and an effective date of 821 01:05:03,020 --> 01:05:06,280 Monday, January 31st, 2022. 822 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:13,080 to. So if we have no other discussion, I will entertain a motion to adopt this first 823 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:13,380 reading. 824 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:18,220 Mr. Chair, if I could just interject, please, the preferred procedure would be a motion 825 01:05:18,220 --> 01:05:23,040 to refer to a second reading. And if you could do it in two separate motions, one for 10 826 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:29,850 a and one for 10 b, that would be appreciated. Okay, so the so we do it a little differently 827 01:05:29,850 --> 01:05:35,990 at the county. So every jurisdiction doesn't have to tell us historically done it as a motion 828 01:05:35,990 --> 01:05:39,530 to refer to a second reading. Okay, so that's, so that's what we're doing. We're not doing 829 01:05:39,530 --> 01:05:46,330 a first reading and an adoption and then a second reading. Okay, okay. Does everyone understand 830 01:05:46,330 --> 01:05:53,610 what Mr. Pony is looking for? Good. Since I heard nothing. Okay, I'm looking for a motion. 831 01:05:54,870 --> 01:06:00,970 I'll move to refer 10 a and 10 b for a second reading at the January board meeting. 832 01:06:00,970 --> 01:06:06,870 okay so do I need a vote on this because at the county we don't need a vote we 833 01:06:06,870 --> 01:06:11,710 just need we just need an adoption come on historically it's taking a vote 834 01:06:11,710 --> 01:06:17,030 okay so I have a motion do I have a second I'll second okay so I have a motion by 835 01:06:17,030 --> 01:06:20,890 Miss Breckis I the first second I heard I'm sorry my store was Miss 836 01:06:20,890 --> 01:06:26,150 Chardon so I have a motion and a second we have asked for public comment is there 837 01:06:26,150 --> 01:06:30,490 any other discussion on this item you know it would be good to have a point on 838 01:06:30,490 --> 01:06:34,710 that I thought second readings were only for ordinances and not, you know, rulemaking 839 01:06:34,710 --> 01:06:38,350 for a non-ordinance-producing body. 840 01:06:38,510 --> 01:06:38,870 Mr. Pony. 841 01:06:39,530 --> 01:06:44,450 So, Tomas procedure under the cooperative agreement gives some latitude on how you 842 01:06:44,450 --> 01:06:46,270 go about in your rulemaking process. 843 01:06:46,750 --> 01:06:53,170 The board has followed generally the procedures in chapter 318, which apply to general improvement 844 01:06:53,170 --> 01:06:53,510 districts. 845 01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:56,950 You're not bound by those statutory procedures, but those are the ones you generally follow. 846 01:06:56,950 --> 01:07:00,470 that's why we do two readings in introduction and then a second reading on 847 01:07:00,470 --> 01:07:07,310 adoption. I get that. It's our decision to do a two step process but if we 848 01:07:07,310 --> 01:07:10,390 wanted to shorten the streamline things we could certainly reconsider. Thank 849 01:07:10,390 --> 01:07:14,530 you for that. We have a motion. We have a second seeing no other discussion. All 850 01:07:14,530 --> 01:07:19,370 those in favor please signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries 851 01:07:19,370 --> 01:07:26,590 unanimously with a second reading to occur on January 19th, 2022. Okay. Thank 852 01:07:26,590 --> 01:07:27,430 Thank you so much, staff. 853 01:07:27,850 --> 01:07:31,890 Moving right along, that takes us to item number 11. 854 01:07:32,790 --> 01:07:34,830 Presentation of the Trekkie River Fund activities 855 01:07:34,830 --> 01:07:37,990 for the calendar year 2021, Ms. Falson, floor is yours. 856 01:07:40,020 --> 01:07:41,430 Oh, Mr. Enlow, I'm sorry. 857 01:07:49,170 --> 01:07:49,710 Okay, 858 01:07:52,690 --> 01:07:54,290 with keyboard in hand. 859 01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:55,250 Thank you, good eye. 860 01:07:55,730 --> 01:07:57,090 That's all right, thank you. 861 01:07:59,630 --> 01:08:03,050 Good afternoon, members of board, Sonia Falson. 862 01:08:03,270 --> 01:08:05,670 Before you have agenda item number 11, 863 01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:09,870 presentation of the Jackie River Fund activities for calendar year 2021. 864 01:08:10,690 --> 01:08:17,450 This is just a summary of all the projects that you approved or denied in 2021 and this year we 865 01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:26,210 a total of 193 projects were approved since inception of 2004. 12 were approved in 2021 866 01:08:26,990 --> 01:08:34,750 and have those the total amount of resolution approved was 15 million by come along in total 867 01:08:34,750 --> 01:08:43,050 last of the grantees was $25.2 million. In 2021, we had, I'm sorry, 868 01:08:49,380 --> 01:08:50,140 I had it in here 869 01:08:50,140 --> 01:08:53,320 but anyway. Okay, 870 01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:03,720 so I, here I'm sorry, look at the wrong document. So in 2021, we had 871 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:12,440 And a board approved $928,000 approximately, and they had a match of $1.95, $1.95 million, 872 01:09:13,550 --> 01:09:14,580 which is significant. 873 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:21,820 And then in, so the remaining funds that Turkey River Fund has for a fiscal year 2022 874 01:09:22,910 --> 01:09:28,060 to allow for spring RFPs is approximately $163,000, $500. 875 01:09:28,060 --> 01:09:36,600 dollars. And the projects that we summarize to you're in the staff report, many of them are 876 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:45,240 returning, the steering about a journey, key trucky metals beautiful, one trucky river fund, 877 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:52,360 as well as Washer County for their trucky river port gore outreach program. 878 01:09:55,580 --> 01:09:56,520 And with that, 879 01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:07,560 Ms. Brecus. The only question I have is I notice the city of Reno appointees are each of 880 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:15,140 them are moving on 17 years of service. Do they expire? I know it's always a can of worms 881 01:10:15,140 --> 01:10:21,960 when you start asking about board members but 17 years is a long run and does that go 882 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,800 over to Reno then? It does go over to Reno so the appointees here for the 883 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:32,180 trackie river fund are outside of tummo's purview. So the it's based on if 884 01:10:32,180 --> 01:10:39,080 they're willing to continue and they go to their okay okay jurisdictions. Now 885 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:44,440 Miss Phillips the chair she she has been talking about leaving leaving but 886 01:10:44,440 --> 01:10:51,060 she is as you can see one of the longest term serving members and has a lot of 887 01:10:51,060 --> 01:10:56,860 knowledge. Yeah, I'm over from Tumwa. When she retired, she started serving on the 888 01:10:56,860 --> 01:11:01,420 Tricky River Fund Advisory Committee. She is the president of the Tahoe 889 01:11:01,420 --> 01:11:06,560 Pyramid Trail. Yeah. And so she has, she has a lot of historical knowledge and 890 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:15,200 she really values the committee and doesn't want to leave it, you know, unprepared. 891 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:23,360 Yeah, so with that being said Brian Bonafonks who is the vice chair and he's been vice chair this past year and 892 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:31,760 She's looking to let him the plan is for him to sit in vice chair for a year or two and then transition out 893 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:39,920 And then let City of Reno know. Okay. I'll look at it. These appointments over there because each one of ours is 17 years in the running 894 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:44,500 it's a long run. My camera just retired from the nature of conservancy but 895 01:11:44,500 --> 01:11:50,140 decided to continue to serve. Yeah. Okay. That's good. And Ms. Phillips has been 896 01:11:50,140 --> 01:11:54,480 amazing. She had a personal tragedy in her life. I know she's back and off 897 01:11:54,480 --> 01:12:02,060 I'm doing a lot of this stuff and so she's but she's still very active and and I'm 898 01:12:02,060 --> 01:12:05,580 I'm deeply appreciative of all the work she's done and especially on the bike 899 01:12:05,580 --> 01:12:13,440 Oh my god. I don't think it would happen if happened without Janet. I mean she was, she's, she's a monster. 900 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:18,040 She's got a lot of horsepower in that. Now any other questions, Mr. Garrett? 901 01:12:19,480 --> 01:12:24,880 I'm just looking at the ones that, I mean this is exciting. Anytime we can help. This is a great, good job. 902 01:12:25,300 --> 01:12:33,120 But some of the ones we didn't do, sometimes they just wonder what, why do we decide not to? I'm looking at the river clean up. 903 01:12:33,700 --> 01:12:38,440 So this spreadsheet, I thought I had my notes in one and I haven't on the other 904 01:12:38,440 --> 01:12:38,780 spreadsheet. 905 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:43,900 So this spreadsheet on the 11 by 17 is not the full list of the Truckie River fun active 906 01:12:43,900 --> 01:12:46,620 projects that were approved or not approved. 907 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,720 It would go on to 20 pages plus. 908 01:12:49,340 --> 01:12:54,980 So this is just, I cut it off at 2018 and until 2021. 909 01:12:55,440 --> 01:13:01,000 So if you have a question about a particular project that was not funded, I take an example. 910 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:01,760 So, 911 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:09,600 the tricky river watershed, this is 211, I just want, so I understand, I'm just picking 912 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:10,040 on that one. 913 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:14,300 But, I mean, I liked the trash removal involved, some of those things. 914 01:13:14,440 --> 01:13:19,620 Why would somebody choose this one and say, no to this, but to another cleanup crew, yes. 915 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:20,300 Okay. 916 01:13:20,540 --> 01:13:20,920 Any idea? 917 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:26,360 Without having the project description and full our fan front of me, I can't answer to 918 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:27,020 the specifics. 919 01:13:27,020 --> 01:13:36,780 but generally speaking, the tricky refund advisor committee would reject or the tumble board would reject approval of said projects. 920 01:13:36,780 --> 01:13:53,820 If it was outside of the tricky eventals service area or downstream, for example, or it didn't fall under one or two priorities of the of the grant priorities that are listed in the. 921 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:23,800 And I want to commend I do want to just add the conversation about Ms. Phillips I can't say enough about what she's doing. 922 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:32,020 done for the community and this particular effort, so thank you so much. So this is this is just 923 01:14:32,020 --> 01:14:36,960 for discussion and presentation only, but is there anyone wishing to speak at this time? I don't 924 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:44,900 have any cards in the audience. I did not receive anything. Okay. All right. If no one has any further 925 01:14:44,900 --> 01:14:50,780 discussion or any other questions, I will close item number 11 and that takes us now to item 12 and I 926 01:14:50,780 --> 01:14:53,480 I will open item 13 at the same time. 927 01:14:53,660 --> 01:14:54,220 So let me read those. 928 01:14:54,940 --> 01:14:57,500 Item number 12 is discussion and action impossible direction 929 01:14:57,500 --> 01:14:59,920 to staff regarding the appointment of John Combs to. 930 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,260 To the Standing Advisory Committee or the SAC, to fill a wholesale customer representative alternate position for the term beginning January 1st, 2022 to December 31st, 2023. That is for action or possible action item 13 is discussion and action and possible direction to staff regarding appointments to the standing advisory committee or the SAC to fill vacancies in existing positions whose terms expire on December 31st, 2021. 931 01:15:29,260 --> 01:15:38,520 One such appointments to be made for new terms from January 1, 2022 to December 31, 2023 from the following list of candidates. 932 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:59,240 One, Chris Melton, primary representative wholesale customer, two, Johnny Pullman, alternate representative, multi-family customer, three John Crompotic, alternate representative, commercial customer, four, Colin Hayes, primary representative from ban, five Jim Smith, alternate representative from ban, six, 933 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:07,780 Alex, Christine Brown-Calliger, primary representative from the Reno Sparks Chamber and seven and silver alternate representative to the Reno Sparks Chamber. 934 01:16:08,020 --> 01:16:13,060 This is awesome. The floor is yours to deal with items number 12 and 13. 935 01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:24,960 Thank you Mr. Chair. So with the first item, number 12, the appointment of or confirming the recommendation to appoint John Combs as the alternate representative for some valid GID. 936 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:31,700 the San Valley G.I.D. Board felt it was appropriate to have an alternate in case Mr. Melton, who 937 01:16:31,700 --> 01:16:33,940 could not attend, and John Holmes is the general manager. 938 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:46,800 And then for the rest of the members, I received a notification from Mrs. Susan Hogue, thank you, 939 01:16:47,780 --> 01:16:53,780 who is not going to continue, nor is Mr. Harry Culbert, even though his term expires next 940 01:16:53,780 --> 01:16:58,560 year he notified me this year that he's not continuing. So those two vacancies 941 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:04,700 will are open and every other member has confirmed that they will continue 942 01:17:04,700 --> 01:17:09,500 for another two-year term. We are awaiting confirmation from Mr. Jim Smith, 943 01:17:09,940 --> 01:17:15,940 actually from Van for reappointing Mr. Jim Smith and as of this moment. 944 01:17:26,090 --> 01:17:26,770 And that's 945 01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:33,190 Since I see no questions do I have any public comment on this item? I don't have any cards. Is there anyone wishing to speak of this time? 946 01:17:34,690 --> 01:17:38,150 I will close public comment and bring it back to the board. Okay. What do we want to do? 947 01:17:40,390 --> 01:17:41,130 Check your pulses. 948 01:17:44,090 --> 01:17:53,250 All right. Does someone need to call Ramza? I can go. I can make a motion Mr. Chair ahead. Go ahead. All right. Well, I'll motion to 949 01:17:53,250 --> 01:17:56,830 to make the appointment says outlined by Ms. 950 01:17:57,250 --> 01:17:57,630 Olson? 951 01:17:57,970 --> 01:17:58,750 In the staff report. 952 01:17:59,570 --> 01:18:00,270 Is that part? 953 01:18:00,750 --> 01:18:02,210 Is that both 12 and 13? 954 01:18:07,510 --> 01:18:08,690 Well, excuse me, yes. 955 01:18:09,130 --> 01:18:09,410 Thank you. 956 01:18:09,970 --> 01:18:10,070 Yes. 957 01:18:10,210 --> 01:18:10,410 Thank you. 958 01:18:10,930 --> 01:18:11,150 Okay. 959 01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:12,090 I just wanted to be sure. 960 01:18:12,430 --> 01:18:16,170 Mr. Pony, do we need to take separate motions on 12 and 13? 961 01:18:16,170 --> 01:18:17,190 Or can we combine them? 962 01:18:17,510 --> 01:18:18,230 You can combine them. 963 01:18:18,410 --> 01:18:18,510 Okay. 964 01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:18,710 Good. 965 01:18:19,150 --> 01:18:19,270 All right. 966 01:18:19,270 --> 01:18:20,610 So I have a motion by Ms. Stewart's second. 967 01:18:20,690 --> 01:18:23,730 We've already asked for public comment. 968 01:18:24,350 --> 01:18:24,850 We had none. 969 01:18:24,850 --> 01:18:26,470 Is there any of the discussion on this item? 970 01:18:27,670 --> 01:18:29,570 All those in favor, please think if I'm saying aye. 971 01:18:29,850 --> 01:18:30,070 Aye. 972 01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:31,070 Any opposed? 973 01:18:31,750 --> 01:18:32,750 Motion carries unanimously. 974 01:18:33,470 --> 01:18:33,770 Well done. 975 01:18:34,110 --> 01:18:34,350 Okay. 976 01:18:34,550 --> 01:18:35,230 Thank you, Ms. Folsom. 977 01:18:36,290 --> 01:18:37,570 Item number 14. 978 01:18:37,750 --> 01:18:43,610 Discussion and action on scheduling regular board meeting dates and times for the calendar year 2022. 979 01:18:43,770 --> 01:18:44,730 Ms. Folsom. 980 01:18:45,930 --> 01:18:46,050 Hi. 981 01:18:46,230 --> 01:18:47,650 So happens the floor is yours again. 982 01:18:47,690 --> 01:18:49,270 Make it simple and efficient. 983 01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:49,750 Well done. 984 01:18:50,190 --> 01:18:50,490 Yes. 985 01:18:50,490 --> 01:18:57,310 Yes, before you have the proposed schedule for 2022, we have stuck with the third one 986 01:18:57,310 --> 01:19:02,970 day of every month, and we will keep the Sparks Council chambers as our location when we 987 01:19:02,970 --> 01:19:08,410 meet in person, and except for the October strategic planning meeting which is scheduled 988 01:19:08,410 --> 01:19:13,970 for October 19th, and I've outlined that that will be held at Tomoa and it's approximately 989 01:19:13,970 --> 01:19:22,690 four hours. The four dates that I am going to call out here that are different are that Thursday, 990 01:19:22,770 --> 01:19:28,050 May 19th, date for our budget hearing that avoids any conflict with any other jurisdiction. 991 01:19:29,130 --> 01:19:34,470 Thursday, July 21st and Thursday, November 17th have been moved because there is a conflict 992 01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:42,070 with City of Reno Council, meaning that's held on Wednesday, July 20th and Wednesday, November 16th. 993 01:19:42,070 --> 01:19:55,650 And then the December meeting, we moved up quite a bit because third Wednesday is on the 21st and that falls really close to holiday season, as well as cutting it really close with filing the aquifer for tumble with the state. 994 01:19:56,150 --> 01:20:00,010 And we moved that to Thursday, December 8th. All the times have remained the same. 995 01:20:01,250 --> 01:20:07,010 If that works with everyone, I think you can approve that for 2022 unless you have any questions. 996 01:20:07,290 --> 01:20:07,590 Thank you. 997 01:20:18,030 --> 01:20:29,710 I'm trying to get some confirmation there was some discussion about City of Reno moving their January meeting to I think the 19th I think that's the same day. 998 01:20:29,710 --> 01:20:41,570 Okay, so I don't know. I do have some information. I'm sorry to interrupt. Thank you. I didn't I just didn't want this to go by without that there's been no action taken on it. I just know there has been some discussions about that. 999 01:20:42,590 --> 01:20:51,330 Yes, thank you. I happen to talk to our not our manager, but JW Hodge or special project strategic planning. 1000 01:20:51,330 --> 01:20:57,990 And he said they were looking at moving it, but just they had just confirmed that the mayor could not make that new date. 1001 01:20:58,610 --> 01:21:05,610 And there was also a challenge with a hearing that had to be held within so many days, so they had to keep the January 12th meeting. 1002 01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:09,830 That was just what I heard as recently as today. 1003 01:21:09,830 --> 01:21:10,310 Great. 1004 01:21:10,650 --> 01:21:11,410 Claire's that up there. 1005 01:21:11,850 --> 01:21:12,230 Thank you so much. 1006 01:21:12,330 --> 01:21:12,590 Ms. Breakfast. 1007 01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:13,110 Yeah. 1008 01:21:13,410 --> 01:21:14,950 Reno did do something. 1009 01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:15,970 Little Catty Wong-Kiss. 1010 01:21:15,970 --> 01:21:18,010 And I can see what happened to their norms. 1011 01:21:18,270 --> 01:21:21,950 But my questions are the July and the November that are in blue. 1012 01:21:22,330 --> 01:21:25,830 We often cancel a couple of meetings a year, right? 1013 01:21:26,030 --> 01:21:27,370 Are those the two that we cancel? 1014 01:21:27,390 --> 01:21:27,570 Yes. 1015 01:21:28,050 --> 01:21:31,910 So we'll decide that like the meeting before or so, right? 1016 01:21:32,090 --> 01:21:32,330 Correct. 1017 01:21:32,910 --> 01:21:33,130 Got you. 1018 01:21:33,490 --> 01:21:37,610 We've kept those meetings in case something comes up throughout the year 1019 01:21:37,610 --> 01:21:42,690 that it needs to be addressed and it's on your calendar so I'll go back to 1020 01:21:42,690 --> 01:21:49,070 the office and get that scheduled for 2022 and if it's determined that we 1021 01:21:49,070 --> 01:21:52,030 don't need to have that meeting then I will delete that meeting invitation 1022 01:21:52,030 --> 01:21:56,030 and send out a cancelation. Those are the two months that we typically do. Okay thank 1023 01:21:56,030 --> 01:22:03,570 you. Is there any other discussion for staff or any questions for staff? Is there any 1024 01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:08,090 public comments on this item. I have no cards. I see no one wishing to speak in 1025 01:22:08,090 --> 01:22:10,990 the audience. I'll bring it back to the board with do you need from us miss 1026 01:22:10,990 --> 01:22:15,370 Folsom do you need us to adopt this schedule. I need you to approve the proposed 1027 01:22:15,370 --> 01:22:20,050 town. Okay. We're going for a motion. I have a motion by Ms. Jarden. Do I have a 1028 01:22:20,050 --> 01:22:25,030 second? Second. Have a second by Mr. Anderson. Is there any other discussion on this 1029 01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:29,670 item? Seeing none all those in favor please signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? 1030 01:22:35,030 --> 01:22:45,030 We are moving along nicely well ahead of the schedule that I had set forth on my own agenda that takes us to item 15 general manager's report. 1031 01:22:51,180 --> 01:22:51,740 That's good, it's not too bad. 1032 01:22:51,740 --> 01:22:52,340 Yeah, that's good. 1033 01:22:52,340 --> 01:22:53,640 My house last night. 1034 01:22:56,750 --> 01:22:58,330 Yes, so Sadler. 1035 01:22:58,530 --> 01:22:58,990 We're looking 1036 01:23:02,830 --> 01:23:05,610 at another thing you'll be in the town manager report. 1037 01:23:09,780 --> 01:23:10,740 The court case, the 1038 01:23:14,860 --> 01:23:17,640 pumping groundwater that may have any kind of contaminant 1039 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:20,080 could. 1040 01:23:25,300 --> 01:23:28,980 The staff's going to come up here and help me with this a little bit. 1041 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:36,180 But it could, the California case could hold a public utility responsible for 1042 01:23:36,180 --> 01:23:40,440 for being a transporter of hazardous waste, 1043 01:23:41,340 --> 01:23:45,280 even if the water meets all drinking water standards. 1044 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:49,180 So we have some, a lot of utilities have very low levels 1045 01:23:49,180 --> 01:23:51,040 below the drinking water standards 1046 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,800 of certain contaminants in the water, 1047 01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:59,040 but this case was problematic for pretty much all water utilities 1048 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:04,300 and although we, yeah, and although we did not intervene 1049 01:24:04,300 --> 01:24:14,560 Intervene as a as in an amicus we are a member of the Western urban water coalition a group of the largest urban water utilities in the West and they 1050 01:24:15,860 --> 01:24:18,800 are in the case now as a 1051 01:24:19,380 --> 01:24:24,420 Amicus am I am I correct just wanted to let you know about that and go ahead stuff with 1052 01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,640 Correct correct me where I'm wrong 1053 01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:36,800 No, it was right. The ninth circuit did decide a case. It is a California case, but because we are in the ninth circuit, it would be binding for us on appeal. 1054 01:24:37,700 --> 01:24:44,280 And it's under Rikra, and it does make it made the city of Vacaville. It's the Friends of the River versus the city of Vacaville case. 1055 01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:51,500 case. The Ninth Circuit panel decided that the case couldn't be dismissed on the basis 1056 01:24:51,500 --> 01:24:58,600 that the city hadn't transported the what the the hex chrome is what it was. And essentially 1057 01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:05,180 they said it could be a transporter which is pretty much a strict liability under regret. 1058 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:14,040 And so a lot of people are concerned about it because everybody acknowledged and the facts 1059 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:19,580 would treatment plant down the way it had caused the contamination and the city had nothing 1060 01:25:19,580 --> 01:25:23,380 to do with it. It's just that it had hit the groundwater basin and was being pumped 1061 01:25:23,380 --> 01:25:27,440 and they're out of their wells and served. So even though it met all drinking water standards, 1062 01:25:28,140 --> 01:25:33,380 it was still a transporter of a hazardous material under Rikra. So if you think about the 1063 01:25:33,380 --> 01:25:37,840 logical conclusion, that means if you got on your yard and you turn on the water, you spray 1064 01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:42,840 the hose that you also are a transporter. So it's a bit of a stretch. 1065 01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:57,240 So what they asked to do and what we, um, what Wu Wack filed an Amicus brief on was for the whole night circuit on bond. So all of the justices to rehere that case and we are still waiting to see if they will reher it. 1066 01:25:57,420 --> 01:25:59,080 They asked the plaintiffs to respond. 1067 01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:05,500 They have to respond at the end of this month and we likely won't hear until January, February, if they will reher it. 1068 01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:07,660 Hopefully that's clear. 1069 01:26:09,220 --> 01:26:10,280 Ah, the joys. 1070 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:14,560 And that's all for me. 1071 01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:14,940 Thank you. 1072 01:26:14,940 --> 01:26:15,480 Thank you, Mr. Ford. 1073 01:26:16,500 --> 01:26:16,780 Okay. 1074 01:26:17,620 --> 01:26:18,160 All right. 1075 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,100 That takes us now to item 16. 1076 01:26:21,100 --> 01:26:22,200 Our final public comment. 1077 01:26:22,340 --> 01:26:24,440 Ms. Folsom, do we have anyone wishing to speak at this time? 1078 01:26:26,540 --> 01:26:26,900 Okay. 1079 01:26:27,140 --> 01:26:28,800 Is there anyone in the audience wishing to speak? 1080 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:30,720 Seeing none, I will close that. 1081 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:32,480 That takes us to item 17. 1082 01:26:32,620 --> 01:26:34,720 Board comments or requests for future agenda items? 1083 01:26:34,980 --> 01:26:35,880 Ms. Prakis, do you have anything? 1084 01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:37,140 Mr. Dan? 1085 01:26:37,140 --> 01:26:50,300 Mr. Anderson? Mr. Anderson? Mr. Jordan? Mr. Doer? Yeah. Just one thing, this article that I sent 1086 01:26:50,300 --> 01:26:56,640 to the Tomwha to Mr. Forrey, I'm hoping that he'll review it and see if there's any other 1087 01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:03,880 articles in this similar line. And then at some point, bring us an update on what people are thinking 1088 01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:08,000 about the potential impacts of climate change on the snowpack. 1089 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,740 So this isn't necessarily for next meeting, 1090 01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,860 but at some meeting within the next quarter or so perhaps. 1091 01:27:14,980 --> 01:27:15,140 Okay. 1092 01:27:15,820 --> 01:27:16,400 We can do that. 1093 01:27:16,660 --> 01:27:16,840 Thank you. 1094 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:17,980 All right, thank you, Mr. Forrey. 1095 01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:18,780 Thank you, Mr. Stewart. 1096 01:27:19,700 --> 01:27:22,500 As for me, I would like to wish everyone a happy holiday, 1097 01:27:23,220 --> 01:27:27,920 have a healthy, safe Christmas, and a happy new year. 1098 01:27:28,020 --> 01:27:29,160 We won't see you before then. 1099 01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,220 And if there is nothing else from the board, 1100 01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,720 We are adjourned. 1101 01:27:37,610 --> 01:27:38,050 Yay! 1102 01:27:39,410 --> 01:27:40,310 We did it! 1103 01:27:40,670 --> 01:27:41,130 Another year. 1104 01:27:42,430 --> 01:27:44,270 I got a schedule. 1105 01:27:44,990 --> 01:27:46,110 Have a good evening. 1106 01:27:46,770 --> 01:27:49,210 Yeah, we've tried to find out about that.