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Are you guys ready yet?

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All right, let's go ahead and we're

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going to go ahead and get started with

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our council meeting. We did have a work

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meeting before this. Uh just getting our

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ducks all in a row here, so we're ready

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to go. But welcome to our council

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meeting tonight. We are going to go

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ahead and get started correctly. We have

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uh Pastor Greg Wright here from the

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Westside Baptist Church. Also, Pastor

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Wright serves our police department as a

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chaplain, and I'm very appreciative of

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that. And also just an all-around good

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guy. Come on up.

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>> Thank you, Mayor.

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Psalm 145:3 says, "Great is the Lord and

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greatly to be praised, and his greatness

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is unsearchable." So, let's go to the

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Lord in prayer. Father, we thank you

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that we can approach you recognizing

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that you are great in every way, in

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every one of your attributes. We

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acknowledge that and we're glad for the

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freedom in our country and here in our

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city to be able to pray and to seek you.

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And tonight, we not only pray for our

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mayor and council members in this

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particular meeting, we're also asking

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that you would bless our city, all of

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the entities that are represented in

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this, the streets, police, fire,

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power, water, buildings, facilities,

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just every part of what it takes to have

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such a great city. We ask for your

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blessing and your help. We pray for

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wisdom for those that are making

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decisions that you would lead and guide.

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We pray for provision for our families

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in this community. You provide for those

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that are hurting, those that are weak,

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that you'd protect them and care for

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them. That you'd bless the righteous and

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that you would give grace to each of us.

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We ask again for your blessing as we

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come to you tonight. And we pray this in

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Jesus name. Amen.

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>> Amen. Thank you. Um, I've asked

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Councilwoman Natalie Larson to lead us

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in the pledge.

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>> Please stand and repeat after me.

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>> Ice

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to the United States of America.

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All right, we uh we do have one

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introduction we want to do. Carol, if

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you want to come up and give us this

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give us an introduction to Lonnie.

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>> Mayor, council members, um we do have a

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new employee in our planning department.

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Um this is Lonnie Olsen. Um he comes to

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us from Wyoming and um he's our newest

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planner and we're excited to have him on

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the team. You say something if you want.

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Hi everyone. Uh, I just want to say I

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have been here for almost three weeks

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and I've really enjoyed it so far and

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I'm just happy to kind of get on the

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feet or under my feet and running with

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this and I just appreciate you all uh

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putting faith in me to work here.

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>> Well, we're glad to have you here. Born

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and raised in Wyoming.

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>> Yep. Born and raised in Laram, Wyoming.

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So, that's where the the University of

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Wyoming is. And I went to school for my

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masters in Salt Lake City at the

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University of Utah. So

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>> very cool.

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>> So same weather then as Larmy here, huh?

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>> Yeah, it's quite quite the adjustment.

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>> Welcome.

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>> Lonnie told me he was happy to get out

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of the snow and he he likes to bike and

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hike. So

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>> very cool. We're glad to have you and we

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have plenty for you to do. Carol, you

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probably already figured that out.

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>> Yeah. Welcome.

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Uh also I do we have some members of our

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youth city council here?

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Did I see you? Come on up here and tell

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us who you are.

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» We always want to make sure you're

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welcome here.

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» Hi.

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>> Go ahead.

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>> Hi, I'm Mariah Bates and I'm just a

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member of the city council.

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>> Awesome.

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>> My name is Lucas Pierce. Um I'm just

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also a member.

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>> And what schools?

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>> I go to Crimson Cliffs.

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>> George Academy. And you had a speech for

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us, right?

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» Yeah.

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>> Mayor, they both just used the word.

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They both just said, "I'm just a member

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of the youth city council." And you are

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a member of the youth city council. Not

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just. You guys are really important to

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us. So, don't forget that. And we're

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super glad you're here.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Yeah. Thanks for being here.

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All right. Let's see. Do we have any

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other pre-aggenda items?

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>> Okay. There's one change this evening,

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Mayor. And item number seven will be rem

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be removed from the agenda this evening.

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Um item number two is consent calendar.

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There's 13 items on the consent calendar

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this evening. Uh staff has reviewed each

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of these administrative items and

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recommends approval. However, if the

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city council would like to remove any of

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these for specific consideration, we can

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accommodate that. Otherwise, staff

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recommends approval.

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>> Mayor, I would like to remove item G and

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then I can make a motion that we approve

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the calendar. with that removed if

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that's okay with you.

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approve the consent calendar as um

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presented, removing item G for

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second by Michelle removing item G and

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then to approve the consent calendar.

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>> Any opposed? Motion carries.

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council has been talking to Cameron, not

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just me about this and we've received

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quite a few letters. So we just I asked

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Cameron if he would address the

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questions tonight. Thank you.

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» I've got to pull it up. Sorry about

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that.

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Uh so these are questions that were

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brought up um by a contractor um

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regarding our bid. Um and then I

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provided uh some information in email.

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10B6B requires a written statement of

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reasons approved uh by the city manager

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and city attorney. How uh whenever an

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award is not given to the lowest bidder,

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does that statement exist for this

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project? And can the council uh see it

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before voting? So there's a section in our procurement uh ordinance that

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indicates if you're not going with the

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low bid uh provide the justification in

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our procurement standard or our

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procurement or uh ordinance. There are

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11 reasons or 11 criteria that the that

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staff is supposed to look at when also

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looking at the price. Uh they pertain to

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can the is the contractor qualified? Uh

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can they perform the work? What's their

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integrity? What's their character?

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what's there financially? Can they do

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that? And so if you don't go with a low

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bid, we provide as a department head, we provide the the justification for

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that. In this case, we I did send an

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email to uh uh city manager and to city

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attorney uh to be able to indicate,

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okay, on this project, we actually

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scored the the George Washington

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Boulevard uh roadway. And I probably

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should indicate this is for the the item

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G uh George Washington Boulevard roadway

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the the roadway portion of it. We

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received nine bids um of which we scored

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the four criteria past performance uh uh

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qualifications. That's the past three

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projects or similar projects the

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contractor was supposed to provide us uh

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their bid amount and their schedule. Um

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so those four criteria were scored five

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points, five points, 50 points and 40

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points. the schedule being 40 points and

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the bid being 50 points the other five

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points. So, uh we scored this project

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according to that criteria that we

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provided for the information for biders.

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city manager and city attorney

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indicating this is how we scored uh

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these projects. That was to answer that question. Uh another question, the

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second question, can the category level

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scores for all nine biders, uh work

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qualification, past performance, bid

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schedule, construction schedule be made

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part of the record before the vote? The

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packet contains only scores. We put in

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the packet the total score of uh for the bids that we rank these uh

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these bids. We did not put out to the

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public all of those categories because

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there was some subjectivity in them. um

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the past performance of a contractor. We

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didn't want to hurt um reputation of a

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contractor. We didn't want to put that

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out to the public. Um we recognized that could um be detrimental to a a

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contractor. So, we provided the full

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score of those contract of those biders

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uh in the in the public packet so that

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the the public could see that. Um, we

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intend to provide that score that that

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score sheet to the contractors so that

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if they wanted to get feedback from uh

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staff that we could talk about that with

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them. Okay, you didn't score very well

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reason why. And and talk that through

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with them if they decided to want to

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come and talk to us. um for the awarding

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contract section of the bid documents

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paragraph 4. This is in the information

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for biders states that award will be

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made to the lowest responsible bidder as

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determined by the city using the

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criteria contained in city ordinances

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governing the award of contracts. How

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was that provision applied to this

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recommendation? it. That paragraph in

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the information for biders was actually

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corrected by an addendum and it

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identified that the the the award of the

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bid will actually be to the highest

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ranking contractor or highest ranking

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bid as determined by the four uh

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bid. When the question came up, I don't

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that um didn't go back and read the the addendum where it was corrected. uh

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that acknowledgement of the amendment,

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the receipt and reading of it, they have

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to click a yes on the on the uh digital

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bonfire, the program where they submit

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the bids before they can submit a bid.

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acknowledge that it was changed in the addendum. Uh let's see for

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in order to submit a bid in Bonfire,

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they would have needed to click that

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they had received the addendum. Correct.

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>> And read it. Yes.

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>> And read it. That's what they're

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acknowledging. So, they can't submit a

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bid unless they click that.

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>> Correct.

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>> So, whether they actually read it or

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not, they all we know is that they click

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the button.

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>> Correct.

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>> Okay. Thank you.

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>> Yep. And then uh question

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this other question for context on

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question two. I asked staff for these

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records in writing and I was told they

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uh will be provided through a grammar

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records process whose process or

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response deadline falls after Thursday's

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meeting. My understanding is because of

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grammar laws and um and our city

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recorder provided a good response to

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this in in an email that we uh could not

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give those those scorings out to the

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contractor until after the bid is

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awarded. Um and there's there's reasons

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for that, but yeah, basically it falls

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under grandma laws. Um

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let's see. One item to note is I know

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that we took this bid. This was the

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first time that we did it in public

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works and scored the bids with these

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four criteria past performance uh work

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qualifications bid and schedule. Um the

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schedule was the question hey how why

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can uh you score this thing based on uh

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time. Please note that that this has

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been going on uses this um in their uh

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contracting and awarding of contracts

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all the time. Bluff Street was actually

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awarded price plus time. The the lowest

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bid on the Bluff Street project or the awarded contractor was not the

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lowest bid.

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>> Cameron, was that part made clear in the

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con in the bid um request in the bid

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documents that you were going to be

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doing

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>> that that procedure. What's it called?

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Plus time.

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>> Price plus time.

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Is that obvious?

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>> That's the title that UD do uses. It's

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price plus time contracting.

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>> In our bid, we put it as four uh four

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criteria that they were going to be

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scored on and they were going to be

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ranked based on those four criteria. And

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so the idea of hey, you can't can you

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award a bid with award and a bid uh a

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bid with time and cost. U does it all

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the time. They did it on Bluff Street.

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The the awarded contractor was not the

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lowest bid. They were the faster uh

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bidder. Um, and so that that price

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element and time element was awarded

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together to be able to award that to the

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lower or to the lowest responsible

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bidder. Um, I recognize that that uh

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there's been questions. Hey, we didn't

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understand this. We didn't understand

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that you were going to score it this

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way. We actually had a mandatory pre-bid

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meeting in this project where all of the

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contractors that bid, the nine contracts

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that we bids that we received, they were

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all present. um they had a

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representative there um where we

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actually talked about this very thing

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and how we were going to score it. And

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then during the the bid period after

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that pre-bid pre-mandatory bid meeting

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um all the contractors had uh time to

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send questions to the city uh

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engineering staff and we answered their

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questions. It wasn't until after the bid

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was received then they started asking,

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"Hey, wait a minute. Um can you do this?

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I I I don't understand this." Cameron,

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with those four categories, was it clear

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the weight that would be given to each

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category? How many points for each one?

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>> No. And that's a good question because

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it was brought up, well, hey, what if

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you wait the time? Um,

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uh, I'll give you an example. So, we

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never spelled out the bid amount that

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one contractor versus another based on

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their bid amount was going to score

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different than 50 50 points. We we never

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spelled that out in the contract. uh

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because we we figured well that's

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inferred because we're ranking you based

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on these four category up to 50 points,

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40 points, five points and five points.

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So we never spelled that out in the

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contract time, the schedule. We did not

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spell it out. We didn't spell it out

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with the the performance five points and

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the the work qualification five points

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either. Um and and maybe that's

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something that our staff needs to put a

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little bit more clarification in to say,

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hey, the time the faster you bid it, the

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more score points you're going to get or

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the slower you bid it. um it's it's not

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you're not going to score as well. But

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we didn't do that for the bid either. We

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didn't uh call out that, hey, if you

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give us a a a

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less bid, you're going to score higher.

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We didn't do that any of that.

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>> But Cameron, did you have I'm confused

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by your answer. So, did you have that

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time was 40% or 40 points?

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>> 40 possible points.

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>> So, you did have you did have the point

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allocated to each one of those items.

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>> Yes. I apologize if I'm not uh clear on that. But so 40 points possible

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for the schedule, 50 points possible for

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the bid, five points possible, and five

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points possible for both the past work

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experience and uh quality of work.

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>> I think that's where the disconnect

401
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happened was

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that time that time change that that was

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going to be such a significant thing

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when we've when I've communicated with

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these contractors.

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And so I guess that's the question is do

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you feel that was clear to those

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contractors that that that was I mean

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time yes it was going to be completed on

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time but that it was going to score so

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heavily in their favor if they got the

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job done early.

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>> I feel like it was clear we received

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nine bids and all of those nine bids had

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different time periods on them a

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different schedule. I can start this

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time and end this time. They all had

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different days that they were going to

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be working. They were not all the same.

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They didn't go to just the minimum time

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period that we indicated in the bid.

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They all gave me different time periods.

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Um I feel like it was was understood. Um

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we talked about it in the pre-bid

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meeting. We talked about it in the

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addendum um to clarify how it was going

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to be awarded. I felt like it was. I

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know that's could be subjective. Um but

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I I think me and my staff I think we

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communicated that with them. So, we had

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a minimum time period placed in there.

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And was that minimum time period, if

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they put that date on their application,

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was that awarded a zero or how many

435
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points?

436
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>> How did we track that?

437
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>> We took uh the the quickest time was

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March and the slowest time was back into

439
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September. And we

440
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>> So, we based what they submitted to us,

441
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not based off of our minimum time,

442
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>> based on what they submitted to us. And

443
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so the fastest uh time received a

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40point score. The slowest time received

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a like a fivepoint score and four people

446
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scored it and and then it averaged those

447
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numbers together.

448
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>> Okay. Yeah, I can see where the

449
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confusion would be there with that wide

450
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discrepancy of, you know, I can see the

451
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frustration if I'm putting in the bid

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not realizing that wide discrepancy

453
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there.

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>> Yeah.

455
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Other

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questions? I can clarify some more. Um

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I tried to calculate it differently if

458
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uh so the bonfire actually provided the

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scoring for the bid. Uh staff did not

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provide that. That was just set based on

461
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a formula. I I actually took that same

462
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formula and applied it to the days that

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the contractors provided this used that

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formula and the top four biders didn't

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change even using so where where the

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bonfire program squished scores together

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so that out of 50 points the lowest

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score was like uh 32 points point

469
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something and so it pushed those scores

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together as as staff scored those the timetable of that the schedule um

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and it stretched it out because 40

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points versus five points. Um, I redid

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that calculation just to see if it

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changed it and it didn't change the top

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four scores based on the same formula

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that was used in Bonfire for the

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schedule. I used that and it again, it

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didn't change it.

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So, based on what the contractor

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submitted to us for their their

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schedules,

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the the top four bids didn't change.

483
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>> And this is the first time we've done a

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bid this way. Is that correct?

485
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>> Correct. I I should explain that uh in

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over the years as we bid using our

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procurement standard where we look at

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the lowest bid but we're also supposed

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to look at some of these other criteria

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um a lot of bids not all of them but

491
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just some of them here and there if they

492
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didn't provide us the the information we

493
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wanted a clear uh concise information

494
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they would be rejected um in this case

495
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we didn't we didn't reject any of them

496
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because we knew we were scoring them um

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if I looked at those criteria and they

498
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didn't provide all of the information

499
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that we were looking for. Some of them

500
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may have been rejected, but we scored

501
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them because we identified that we were

502
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going to score them.

503
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>> Would any of the top uh contractors be

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uh thrown out?

505
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>> Could be.

506
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But again, we just scored them.

507
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>> I have another question regarding

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timing.

509
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This road does not exist. It's not

510
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replacing a road. It's going to help

511
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alleviate traffic.

512
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when you're looking at that bid process,

513
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where does money come into play with

514
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that $1.4 million difference in bid

515
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price because it's not in front of a

516
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school, a hospital, not the boulevard

517
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getting replaced. So why the sense of

518
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urgency? The timing was so critical on

519
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this bid.

520
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>> So I'll explain two things on that. So

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um we have the bridge that's under

522
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construction right now. The contract

523
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time for that bridge goes until July,

524
00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:36,559
middle of July, around July 15th. Um,

525
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:38,240
the current contractor working on that

526
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bridge is going to finish well before

527
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that timetable. So, um, as staff had

528
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looked at, um, when can we finish this roadway, we knew that the bridge

529
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was going to be done and the

530
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intersection over by the Dixie Center

531
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where it's just Crosby Way right now and

532
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just a through roadway, it's going to

533
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change to a T intersection. And we knew

534
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,039
that that was going to be a delay. that

535
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:58,559
was going to be an issue with drivers

536
00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:00,000
driving that going through a traffic

537
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,240
signal without the bridge open. So, we

538
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,080
tried to look at ways to accelerate the

539
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construction of this roadway. One of

540
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,640
them was we we bid out the pedestrian

541
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,799
bridge that's on the roadway section. We

542
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:12,480
bid it out earlier because that was

543
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,480
going to be a critical path delay for

544
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,360
the roadway. Um, and so when we looked

545
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,200
at the roadway portion, the reason why

546
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,200
we tried to accelerate the schedule and

547
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,120
score it according to a schedule is

548
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,480
because the bridge was going to be done

549
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,559
a lot sooner. Um, and we didn't want

550
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:28,000
that bridge just being out there

551
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,399
finished, completed and Crosby Way into

552
00:31:30,399 --> 00:31:32,399
a T intersection without the roadway

553
00:31:32,399 --> 00:31:34,640
connected. Um, that was the reason why

554
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,039
we actually pushed it to get that done.

555
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:39,440
Um, to your question about the $1.4

556
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,200
million, the the difference between the

557
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,200
low bid and the high bid, even talking

558
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,679
with the the contractor for the low the

559
00:31:45,679 --> 00:31:48,159
lower bid amount, um, asking him about

560
00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:49,840
the time schedule, he responded to me

561
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,240
that, oh, if I wanted to accelerate this

562
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,000
schedule, I could do it also. I would

563
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,760
just have to add more people, which

564
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,159
means that the bid cost would go up. So,

565
00:31:58,159 --> 00:32:00,080
to your question, I couldn't just throw

566
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,720
out the the schedule the the scoring of

567
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,360
this uh schedule and not even account

568
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,519
for it and use those bids because those

569
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:09,679
bids are accounting for the time that

570
00:32:09,679 --> 00:32:11,760
the contractors are actually uh building

571
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,279
it. And so, even though um that $ 1.4

572
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:18,559
million difference between them, if it

573
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:20,240
wouldn't be that much savings if we

574
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,159
tried to make them all go with the same

575
00:32:22,159 --> 00:32:24,799
schedule. And so you can't really throw

576
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:28,480
out the time period and and get those

577
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,360
bids. You can't do that. So the 1.5 uh

578
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,519
1.4 million reflects that you're getting

579
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:35,519
a faster schedule on the construction of

580
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:39,909
the roadway.

581
00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:41,679
» We're also going to have some disruption

582
00:32:41,679 --> 00:32:43,360
on I-15

583
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,519
coming very shortly. So this road will

584
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,760
be crucial.

585
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,669
>> True.

586
00:32:51,679 --> 00:32:53,679
Cameron, do we know when they're going

587
00:32:53,679 --> 00:32:57,200
to start the I-15 expansion and raise

588
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,840
project?

589
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,760
>> Let's see. They just told me and I I

590
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,960
don't have that in my head, but it's

591
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,799
within the next month or so they're

592
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:06,000
going to get those bids received. U is

593
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,320
so they stopped the advertisement of bid

594
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,159
first part of the summer. They started

595
00:33:10,159 --> 00:33:11,760
that, stopped it, and they wanted to

596
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,360
wait for the grant that they had put

597
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,120
into the federal government, a $25

598
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,960
million grant that they got like 23 and

599
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,600
something million.

600
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,279
>> Midepptember is what they said in that

601
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:19,679
meeting.

602
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:20,399
>> Midseptember

603
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:21,279
>> for bids. Yeah.

604
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:23,360
>> So, they will receive those bids and

605
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,120
then uh award that and it's going to

606
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,279
start could be this year, could be this

607
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:32,630
calendar year.

608
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,799
» Just a little clarification just so I I

609
00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:39,039
want to be very clear that there's a

610
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:41,360
several all these contractors in fact

611
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,919
have been very good community partners.

612
00:33:43,919 --> 00:33:45,919
Um that's what makes this a little tough

613
00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:46,960
because you're sitting there, man, I

614
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,960
wish we could give it to all of them. Uh

615
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,399
they've been good community partners.

616
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:52,000
they've done a lot of good work in the

617
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,720
community. Um, some of them I know

618
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,960
personally, most of them I know at least

619
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,399
someone there that works for them

620
00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:00,720
personally. And so you there's a whole

621
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,039
ramification of getting a job and not

622
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:05,519
getting a job. And I I feel that. So I

623
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:07,039
just want that to be very clear that

624
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:10,079
this these are I still want all these

625
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:11,520
contractors to know that they're are

626
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,599
very good community parters partners and

627
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:15,280
at the end of the day regardless of what

628
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,200
happens here

629
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,440
only one of them is going to get it. And

630
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,079
so, um,

631
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:24,320
I I just keep that in mind. I just

632
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,599
wanted to make sure those contractors

633
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:26,960
knew no, there's no there nothing

634
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,879
nefarious going on here. This is just

635
00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:30,879
simply what we're trying to get a road

636
00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:33,839
done at the best possible price.

637
00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:35,919
Well, and just to clarify, Cameron,

638
00:34:35,919 --> 00:34:38,320
because transparency obviously is very

639
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,159
important with this, and you did mention

640
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,520
with grandma request laws that we were

641
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,000
not able to release the information

642
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,919
until after um a bid is awarded

643
00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:53,359
essentially. So, is this does the city

644
00:34:53,359 --> 00:34:55,679
intend to go ahead and release this

645
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,920
information so that the contractors can

646
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,720
have all of the information that was

647
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:01,760
requested?

648
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,079
>> That that I believe is what our intent

649
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:05,200
is. Yes.

650
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,480
>> Okay.

651
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,320
But the reason why it wasn't put into

652
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,680
the packet is for protection essentially

653
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,320
of the companies and because of that

654
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,280
scoring system partially being based off

655
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,960
of past experience. We didn't want to

656
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,119
have anything put out there potentially

657
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:25,839
negative for a company. Is that am I

658
00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:27,040
understanding that correctly?

659
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,119
>> Correct. We would we're intending to

660
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:30,960
meet with the contractors to to give

661
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,119
them some feedback if they wish it.

662
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:35,520
>> Okay. Yeah. because I think that's this

663
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,440
is a tough one for me because the

664
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,680
transparency aspect is so important and

665
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,000
when we're going out to bid we want to

666
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,240
make sure everything is transparent and

667
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:46,560
well understood and obviously we as

668
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,400
wanting to be good stewards of tax

669
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,320
dollars want to assure that we're

670
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,400
getting the best price we can but also

671
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,240
time is money as well so I understand

672
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,920
factoring in those other aspects but

673
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,560
having it be as clear as possible when

674
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,400
we are going out to bid and it sounds

675
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,320
like with this being the first time

676
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,320
doing it this way, I I can see where

677
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,400
there was some confusion. So, that's why

678
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,480
this one is is tough for me.

679
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,000
>> Thanks, Cameron, for answering all those

680
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,200
questions. And it sounds like you're

681
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,960
already planning to meet with all the

682
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,880
contractors afterwards. I think that'll

683
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,880
be great, especially with us doing this

684
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,800
new process so they can give us some

685
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,240
feedback and we can make sure that

686
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,240
there's clarity because like the mayor

687
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,000
said, these are all good companies. We

688
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,839
want to continue working with all of

689
00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:32,160
them. We want them to be successful in

690
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,680
their bidding processes and we want to

691
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,440
make sure that we're not hanging them up

692
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,480
in any way on that. So, um, with that,

693
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,000
mayor, I'll make a motion if you're

694
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,040
ready, unless anybody else

695
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,599
>> just give one to give legal a second

696
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:44,480
here before you do that.

697
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,200
>> Okay. Sure.

698
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,320
>> Thanks.

699
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,920
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor and members of the

700
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,440
city council. I do want to make you

701
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,680
aware and I think you are aware that the

702
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,400
city did receive a formal protest today

703
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,680
under the procurement code which is 10-

704
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,000
or sorry 1-10B-6

705
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,440
of our city code. Unfortunately, that protest was required to be

706
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,720
submitted within 72 hours of the bid

707
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:13,040
tabulation when it was when it was uh

708
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,000
given, which depending on the date you

709
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,079
use, at the latest it would have been

710
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:20,960
Saturday morning at 9:00. So, this

711
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,560
protest didn't come in in time. However,

712
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,720
I do want to let those in the audience

713
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:30,240
that are interested um know that um

714
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,200
certainly if the if the bid is awarded

715
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,079
tonight and a contract sign, once the

716
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,800
contract is signed, we can release the

717
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,040
here24 protected grammar documents and

718
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,760
we can get those out. But it also allows

719
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,880
for an appeal process under title one

720
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,680
chapter 15 of our city code as well. Um,

721
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,079
so it's not the end. If there are those

722
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,720
that want to appeal the decision, um,

723
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:56,480
that decision can go to the

724
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,440
administrative law judge. So,

725
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,200
sorry to be clear then, just sorry,

726
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,359
Danielle, before you make your motion,

727
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:06,000
can you one of you two give us the

728
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:12,160
ramifications of one way or the other of this decision denied or approved?

729
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,680
>> Right. So again, if if the decision is

730
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,960
denied tonight, um then the process has

731
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,280
to start over and we have to redo the

732
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,760
entire bid process. If the uh if the

733
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,480
award is granted as as recommended or

734
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,040
approved as recommended, then the city

735
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,640
proceeds with um the contract. Um there

736
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,480
is an appeal process available. Um, if

737
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,160
it does get appealed and goes to the

738
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,400
administrative law judge, again, if the

739
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,160
administrative law judge upholds the

740
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,200
city's action, then the the project

741
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,359
proceeds, continues to proceed. If the

742
00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:51,440
administrative law judge disagrees and

743
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,480
says, "No, we did it wrong," then again,

744
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,240
it goes it's a doover basically, then we start again.

745
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:00,640
>> Okay, that clear? Any questions on that

746
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,160
for

747
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,359
Jamie? All right. Any other discussion?

748
00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:09,440
>> I have one question for Jamie. Based on

749
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,359
my research, that decision by the

750
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:13,040
administrative law judge would need to

751
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,839
be within two weeks. Sec.

752
00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:17,680
>> So, under the procurement code, there

753
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,320
was a time limit under under the appeal

754
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,320
provisions that I'm talking about.

755
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,240
There's a time limit on when to file

756
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,240
that appeal and it's a fairly quick one,

757
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,560
but then it goes uh then there's a

758
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,320
process through the through the

759
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,680
administrative code.

760
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,950
>> Thank you.

761
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,160
Okay. Any other questions?

762
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,320
Not then.

763
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,359
Danielle.

764
00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:43,359
>> Yeah. Mayor, I'll make a motion that we

765
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:47,520
approve item G from the consent calendar

766
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,320
um the contract of JP Excavating, Inc.

767
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,760
to construct the George Washington

768
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,640
Boulevard from Virgin River Bridge to

769
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,920
River Road Product.

770
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,320
>> I'll second.

771
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,200
>> Is that you, Steve? Sorry. Oh, Austin.

772
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,880
Okay, we have a motion uh by Danielle, a

773
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,200
second by Austin

774
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,440
to approve item G. All in favor say I.

775
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,800
>> I. I.

776
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,599
>> I.

777
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,520
>> Any opposed?

778
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,310
Motion carries unanimously.

779
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,240
This this meeting's kind of got some

780
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,560
oddities to it, so I'm going to be uh

781
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,920
stepping out and turning the meeting

782
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,990
over for this next item to Danielle.

783
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,400
So item number three is a public hearing

784
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,760
consideration of ordinance number

785
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,920
2026-063

786
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,320
annexing property and in the city of St.

787
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,160
George and adjusting the corporate

788
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,520
boundary lines to include 2.277

789
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,680
acres located at the intersection of

790
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,720
3430 east in St. George and 39

791
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,599
30 south in Washington city.

792
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,560
>> Okay. So, at the city council meeting on

793
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,200
May 28th, 2026, the city approved a

794
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,240
resolution a resolution to hear the

795
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:11,280
annexation. So, that put in time that

796
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,119
put in place a time frame now that they

797
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:15,440
had to go through a process to look at

798
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,720
the annexation. So, tonight is just now

799
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:22,000
the now to come forward and approve the

800
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,640
annexation, approve an ordinance uh for

801
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:30,550
the annexation.

802
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,880
That's it. [laughter]

803
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,960
>> Okay.

804
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,720
Um, since since this is um a property

805
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:40,319
belonging to our mayor, I just want to

806
00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:44,400
make sure that we um go through the

807
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,560
process exactly as we should so that we

808
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,160
don't have any questions. Um, so I will

809
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,440
read to you what it says from our um

810
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,319
annexation policy plan. The city council

811
00:41:56,319 --> 00:41:58,160
in their role as a municipal governing

812
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,079
body not only has to weigh the

813
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:01,440
recommendations of the planning

814
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,599
commission but also determine the terms

815
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:06,079
and conditions upon which property is to

816
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,240
be annexed should that be the ultimate

817
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:10,960
decision that reduce or eliminate the

818
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,640
burden on the city's existing

819
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,800
infrastructure and services. These are

820
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,119
not simple decisions to ma to be made by

821
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:19,760
either body and should not be rushed. It

822
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,599
is anticipated and highly appropriate

823
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:24,160
that these decisions could be debated,

824
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,200
discussed at length, vetted thoroughly,

825
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,040
differing opinions expressed, and

826
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,000
decided without unanimous consent. Aside

827
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,079
from and in addition to the concerns for

828
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,000
infrastructure and services involved

829
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,160
with annexation, there are other

830
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,000
political, social, and financial

831
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,680
considerations that should be

832
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,400
considered. So I read that to the

833
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,040
council from our annexation policy so

834
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,200
that we are certain that we have

835
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,960
whatever the discussion is amongst the

836
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,319
council that we're certain that we have

837
00:42:52,319 --> 00:42:54,480
gone through our annexation policy and

838
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,000
whatever the decision is that's made

839
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,000
tonight that it is made according to

840
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,280
that policy.

841
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,040
>> Is there any discussion amongst the

842
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,150
council?

843
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,240
I would just ask uh John and Jamie if

844
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,480
all of the the last time we voted on

845
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:18,800
this that was to vote to consider moving forward with the

846
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,640
annexation and there were several steps

847
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,960
that needed to be that needed to take

848
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,440
place and

849
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,079
Wes have all of those steps been

850
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:29,760
completed?

851
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,030
>> Yes.

852
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,829
» That's all I want.

853
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:41,200
So this is a public hearing. Does anyone

854
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,720
have any more questions for Wes or any

855
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:44,560
discussion before we open the public

856
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,630
hearing?

857
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,480
Okay. Thank you, Wes. We will open the

858
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,119
public hearing for this request for

859
00:43:55,119 --> 00:44:01,910
annexation.

860
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,720
No one. All right. Seeing no one coming

861
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:08,640
up for the public hearing, we will close

862
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,200
the public hearing and I will look to

863
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,119
the council for a motion.

864
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:18,079
I'll make a motion to approve

865
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:20,880
ordinance 2026-063

866
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,520
annexing property into the city of St.

867
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,440
George and adjusting the corporate

868
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,119
boundary lines to include 2.277 acres

869
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:32,240
located at the intersection of 3430 east

870
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:35,040
in St. George and 3930 South in

871
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,160
Washington City.

872
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,870
>> I'll second.

873
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,280
» All in favor? Oh, sorry. I I mess this

874
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,640
up every time because I only do it about

875
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,280
once a year. Um, okay. Motion by

876
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,400
Natalie. Uh, seconded by Steve. All in

877
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,640
favor. Starting with Austin.

878
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,319
>> I.

879
00:44:54,319 --> 00:44:55,599
>> Steve Kemp. I.

880
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:56,800
>> Natalie Larson. I

881
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,960
>> Danielle Lurkin. I. Michelle Tanner. I.

882
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,160
>> All right. Who's going to invite the

883
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:20,069
mayor back in

884
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:21,680
item number four is a public hearing in

885
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,119
consideration of ordinance number

886
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:25,599
2026-064

887
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:28,560
to vacate a portion of the Sage Haven

888
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,040
phase 15 subdivision plat identified

889
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,040
ified as a temporary turnaround easement

890
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,160
located at the west end of Samaria

891
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,560
Drive.

892
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,520
>> Okay. Right here before you, this is um

893
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,280
Sage Haven phase 15. What they did is

894
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,000
you can see right here, this length is

895
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,480
longer than 150 ft where that roadway

896
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,640
terminated. And so then what they're

897
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,560
required to do is provide a temporary

898
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,720
turnaround until such time as the road

899
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:59,280
extends. So they provided this temporary

900
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,839
turnaround right here. It was included

901
00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:04,079
as part of the subdivision. So it's just

902
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:07,280
basically vacating that easement, the

903
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,040
temporary easement for the temporary

904
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,720
turnaround.

905
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:12,640
It's a lot of temporary

906
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:18,390
>> questions.

907
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,160
None. If no questions, come back to you.

908
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,560
This is a public hearing, so we'll go

909
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,960
ahead. There's no questions for Wes.

910
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,160
will go ahead and open the public

911
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,520
hearing for those who've come to speak

912
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:35,589
to this item.

913
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,119
» Seeing none, I'll close the public

914
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:38,960
hearing and come back to you, council.

915
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,480
Mayor, I'll make a motion that we

916
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,640
approve [snorts]

917
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,560
ordinance number 2026-6064

918
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,720
to vacate a portion of the Sage Haven

919
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:52,240
phase 15 subdivision plat identified as

920
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:54,079
a temporary turnaround easement located

921
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:56,640
at the west end of Samara Drive.

922
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,920
>> Second.

923
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,599
>> We have a motion by Austin, a second by

924
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,280
Danielle. This is an ordinance requiring

925
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,720
a roll call vote. Uh starting with uh

926
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:05,680
Shell

927
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,880
>> Michelle Tanner I. Danielle Larkin, I

928
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,319
>> Natalie Larson, I

929
00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:11,440
>> Steve Kemp, I

930
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,640
>> Austin Anderson, I

931
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,880
>> Motion carries unanimously.

932
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,240
>> Item five, public hearing and

933
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:17,680
consideration of ordinance number

934
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,760
2026-065

935
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,560
vacating a portion of a municipal

936
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,839
utility easement located between lot 122

937
00:47:25,839 --> 00:47:29,280
Cedar Crest at Devario phase 3 and lot

938
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,200
123 Ceda Crest at Dvario phase 3 partial

939
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,960
amendment A.

940
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,520
>> Okay. The owner of lots 122 and 123 of

941
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,560
Cita Crest phase three are proposing to

942
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,119
merge their lots. And as you all know,

943
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:46,960
there's a utility easement on both sides

944
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,200
of that side uh side property line. The

945
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,200
request is to vacate it so that they can

946
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,910
merge the two lots.

947
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,119
Questions for Wes?

948
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:04,150
Okay, this

949
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,800
Yep. This is also a public hearing. So I

950
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,800
will go ahead and open the public

951
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,400
hearing for those who have come to speak

952
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:17,510
to this item.

953
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,440
All right. Seeing no one, we'll close

954
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,880
the public hearing and come back to you,

955
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,069
council.

956
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:26,559
I will move to approve ordinance number

957
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:28,640
2026-065

958
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,720
vacating a portion of a municipal

959
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:35,280
utility easement located between lot 122

960
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:40,240
cea crest at Dvario phase 3 and lot 123

961
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:43,839
cece at Dvario phase 3 partial amendment

962
00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:45,359
A.

963
00:48:45,359 --> 00:48:46,720
>> I'll second.

964
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:49,200
>> So a motion by Michelle second by

965
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,599
Austin. This is an ordinance requiring a

966
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:54,240
roll call vote starting with Austin.

967
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:55,359
>> Austin Anderson I.

968
00:48:55,359 --> 00:48:56,319
>> Steve Kemp I.

969
00:48:56,319 --> 00:48:57,680
>> Natalie Larson. I

970
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,119
>> Danielle Larkin. I Michelle Tanner. I

971
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:04,240
>> Hold on one second. Bren

972
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,880
Wes. Was that your last item?

973
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,240
You're not going to try to take off on

974
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:10,480
us, are you?

975
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:17,920
Well, because I think today Well, what they were trying to do

976
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,680
is get me to bring a casket here to the

977
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,720
city hall.

978
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:24,880
>> Is Is the rumor true that you've turned

979
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,240
60 today?

980
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:30,240
>> It is. I'm very I'm very very sad right

981
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:30,640
now.

982
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,319
>> And you came to work?

983
00:49:32,319 --> 00:49:34,079
>> I did because then I would just sit home

984
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:35,680
and drink or your face match

985
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,640
>> and I don't even drink.

986
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,079
>> Yeah. And if you know Wes, I'm sure

987
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:40,160
that's going to happen. Let let us

988
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,400
brighten up your day a little. Can you

989
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,160
guys all join me in singing happy

990
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,960
birthday to Wes and make it the best

991
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,480
happy birthday you've ever sang?

992
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,319
>> Like his face matches his shirt.

993
00:49:50,319 --> 00:49:51,520
>> Yes. Here we go.

994
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,800
>> Sure it does.

995
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,994
>> Happy

996
00:49:56,004 --> 00:50:02,870
[laughter]

997
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:09,910
dear Wes. [singing]

998
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,910
Thank you.

999
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,599
» I do have a little birthday gift for

1000
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:17,200
you. I want to come. Is David still

1001
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,760
here? Is David here? Take a picture.

1002
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,520
>> Chad Chad, you can take a picture. We

1003
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,760
got to take a picture with Wes up here

1004
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,760
with the city council in the background

1005
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,240
on his 60th birthday.

1006
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:30,319
>> Yes, because my funeral's coming soon.

1007
00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:33,670
I've decided.

1008
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:41,109
» So red. You're so bright.

1009
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:52,980
» We get to do our purchase.

1010
00:50:52,990 --> 00:51:07,430
[laughter]

1011
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,020
I remember when you turned 50, Wes.

1012
00:51:10,020 --> 00:51:15,030
[laughter]

1013
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,839
» Well, congratulations, Wes. Thank you.

1014
00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:21,200
>> All right, Brenda. Sorry.

1015
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,040
Item number six, consider approval of a

1016
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,040
conditional use permit for a private

1017
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,480
school serving students through grade 8

1018
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,800
located in a designated landmark site in

1019
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,160
a residential zone on approximately 0.21

1020
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:40,230
acres located at 135 South 100 East.

1021
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:44,240
» Okay, this is the location. The general

1022
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:47,599
plan is downtown connected neighborhood

1023
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:50,400
and the zoning is RCC residential

1024
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,549
central city.

1025
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:56,640
The Frederick Blake home was built in

1026
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,680
the 1870s and was designated a local

1027
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:05,829
landmark on August 19th in 2021.

1028
00:52:05,839 --> 00:52:08,400
So here's their proposal. They'll have

1029
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,079
30 students with one teaching station.

1030
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:14,079
The operating hours are Monday through

1031
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:19,280
Thursday 9:00 am to 300 pm. Friday 12 am

1032
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,319
9:00 am to 12 pm and the student drop

1033
00:52:22,319 --> 00:52:25,520
off times will be a half hour long time

1034
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:31,119
each 8:45 a.m. to 9:15 a.m. and 2:45

1035
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:34,000
p.m. to 3:15 p.m. That way they can

1036
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,640
space out the time drop off and pickup

1037
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,119
times for kids so there won't be traffic

1038
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:41,760
jams in front of the home. And all the

1039
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,839
outdoor activities will occur in the

1040
00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:47,599
rear yard fenced in area. So, their

1041
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:50,079
proposal meets all the requirements that

1042
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:52,559
are in the code. You may remember we

1043
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:54,319
brought through the zoning regulation

1044
00:52:54,319 --> 00:52:57,040
amendment, and you all passed that on

1045
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,680
May 7th of this year for this kind of

1046
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,440
conditional use permit. This is the

1047
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,920
first application for this kind of

1048
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,480
conditional use permit.

1049
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,960
Here's the site plan. And so the parking

1050
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,839
requirement is 1.5 spaces per teaching

1051
00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:20,160
station and one space per 15 students.

1052
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,880
So that would require four spaces. So

1053
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,040
they're showing four spaces on this

1054
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,960
plan. Here's the ADA space here and then

1055
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,839
a space here and two spaces here. They

1056
00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:33,520
are allowed to

1057
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:34,720
>> I'm sorry. Go ahead.

1058
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:36,079
>> Okay.

1059
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:37,760
They are allowed to count on street

1060
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,319
parking for 50% of their parking

1061
00:53:40,319 --> 00:53:42,319
requirements.

1062
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:44,800
And here's where they're going to hold

1063
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,640
the outdoor activities back here in the

1064
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,480
rear yard which is fenced.

1065
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,040
This is the traffic plan that they are

1066
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,599
required to provide. They indicated that

1067
00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:58,240
this will also be given to the parents

1068
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:01,119
so that they will know what the plan is

1069
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:04,800
for pickup and drop off. And here is

1070
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,640
where they'll drop off the children in

1071
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,240
front of the house. And then the parents

1072
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:11,520
are supposed to turn and take 100 south

1073
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,240
there. So there won't be a backup here.

1074
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:18,079
The planning commission did recommend

1075
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:19,680
approval

1076
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,359
with these conditions and I can answer

1077
00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:24,960
any questions you might have. The

1078
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,880
applicants are also here and they can

1079
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,480
answer any questions you might have for

1080
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,589
them.

1081
00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:34,480
Is the applicant good with the three

1082
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,079
conditions that were given by the

1083
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:38,160
planning commission?

1084
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,549
>> They are.

1085
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:44,319
» Okay. Any other questions for Brenda or

1086
00:54:44,319 --> 00:54:46,800
the applicant?

1087
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,000
>> I'll make a motion.

1088
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:48,800
>> Ready for it?

1089
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,640
>> Okay. Yeah. I think this is exciting.

1090
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,800
It's always nice to have alternative

1091
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,720
school options and especially one right

1092
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:57,200
in the neighborhood there. So, I will

1093
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,400
move to approve a conditional use permit

1094
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,040
for private school serving students

1095
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,680
through grade 8 located in a designated

1096
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,160
landmark site in a residential zone on

1097
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,559
approximately 21 acres located at 135

1098
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:16,559
South 100 East. I'll second that motion.

1099
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:18,160
>> We have a motion by Michelle and a

1100
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,040
second by Danielle.

1101
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,559
Uh, this is a conditional use permit.

1102
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:29,040
Roll call. Okay. So, all in, just to be

1103
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,520
clear again, motion by Michelle, second

1104
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,960
by Danielle to approve. All in favor say

1105
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:35,359
I.

1106
00:55:35,359 --> 00:55:37,359
>> And I'll clarify that the motion does

1107
00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:40,480
include the uh three conditions from the

1108
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,079
planning commission.

1109
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:43,359
>> With the conditions from planning

1110
00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:45,280
commission. All in favor say I.

1111
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:45,839
>> I.

1112
00:55:45,839 --> 00:55:48,640
>> Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously.

1113
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,880
Thank you. Item number eight, consider

1114
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,000
approval of ordinance number 2026-067

1115
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,160
amending the Akenville interchange zone

1116
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,559
plant development commercial zone on

1117
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:00,880
approximately 3.4 acres generally

1118
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,280
located east of Arrowhead Canyon Drive

1119
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,920
and south of Havsu Drive.

1120
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,160
>> Okay, this is for the Bucks Ace down in

1121
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,079
the Center Commons area. Plan

1122
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:12,559
development amendment located in between

1123
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:15,119
Smith's and the Hampton Inn on Arrowhead

1124
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:17,520
Canyon Drive

1125
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,920
and current land use is plan development

1126
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,599
as well as the zone plan being plan

1127
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:25,119
development commercial. All part of the Atkinville interchange

1128
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:27,200
zone plan

1129
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,880
um con uh conceptual site plan um

1130
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,440
appears to let me start over. The

1131
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,799
building uh is approximately 45,600

1132
00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:39,200
square ft. uh it appears to meet all

1133
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,440
setbacks. This is also the conceptual

1134
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,599
landscape plan. Just know as well that

1135
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:46,000
there is a 27 foot trail and utility

1136
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,079
easement along that west side. And there

1137
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,319
is also, as you probably saw on the

1138
00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:52,799
zoning map, that there is a residential

1139
00:56:52,799 --> 00:56:54,720
area just to the west. So, they will be

1140
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:57,359
required to do the landscape buffer and

1141
00:56:57,359 --> 00:57:00,079
the sixoot masonry wall along that west

1142
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:02,720
side. Um providing street trees along

1143
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:04,480
Arrowhead Canyon Drive and street trees

1144
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,119
along that private drive, Havsu Drive.

1145
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:08,799
You'll also see that they show a little

1146
00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:10,480
monument sign there. Just as a reminder

1147
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,240
for any of the signage is that it will

1148
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:13,680
have to meet the Sun River Commons

1149
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,440
master sign plan. So, just keep that in

1150
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,760
mind as well.

1151
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,000
Uh conceptual photometric plan appears

1152
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,599
to meet uh meet code. We'll make sure

1153
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:23,040
that we go through it thoroughly at the

1154
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,079
site planner view. And here's the uh

1155
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:27,599
rendering or the elevations. So,

1156
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:29,040
elevations kind of depending on where

1157
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,880
you look for height. Some of those

1158
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,440
shorter sections are 26 feet. You've got

1159
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,599
37 feet 2 in over here on that far east

1160
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:37,040
side. And then that middle section which

1161
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,079
is a little bit bigger though that

1162
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:40,000
architectural feature is just over 39

1163
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,880
ft. Um just also a note as well that the

1164
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,480
majority of this building is single

1165
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,559
level. There are just two little spaces

1166
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:49,040
that have a have a second story. There's

1167
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,280
a little office space right above the

1168
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,359
main entrance and then there will also

1169
00:57:53,359 --> 00:57:55,520
be a a second level over here on the

1170
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,440
west side close to that residential area

1171
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,440
where it is a break room for the

1172
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,640
employees. And I think there's also just

1173
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,799
a little bit of office space as well. Uh

1174
00:58:02,799 --> 00:58:04,400
but the majority of this building

1175
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,880
singlestory. Uh the windows that are

1176
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,400
look like they could be a third third

1177
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:09,599
story, they're just architectural

1178
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:12,559
features. Just a pretty epic building.

1179
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:14,880
Uh this is the view from the north. This

1180
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,880
is your view from the east side if you

1181
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,680
were on the Pioneer Road side. And you

1182
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,280
can see some of the building materials

1183
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,200
as well. So stuckle, woodlook, metal.

1184
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,319
And you'll be able to see these better

1185
00:58:24,319 --> 00:58:26,559
on the on the renderings. Um but

1186
00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:29,520
composite panels and painted steel. And

1187
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,680
then this is the side uh on the west

1188
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,280
side along Arrowhead Canyon Drive. So

1189
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,319
this is the side that would be facing

1190
00:58:34,319 --> 00:58:37,839
the residential zone and then also the rear portion of the building that

1191
00:58:37,839 --> 00:58:40,079
would be facing the Hampton Inn. Um we

1192
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:41,280
will get to the very end where you'll

1193
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,559
see the condition from the planning

1194
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:43,920
commission, but one of the things that

1195
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,599
we noted on there for the condition was

1196
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:48,160
that any signage along the south side of

1197
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,040
the building or on the west side that uh

1198
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,880
that it not be lit just so that it

1199
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,720
doesn't impact that residential zone to

1200
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,799
the west.

1201
00:58:56,799 --> 00:58:58,079
uh some of your renderings, some of the

1202
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:00,400
renderings from the north.

1203
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,839
This is that main entrance and you can

1204
00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:03,200
kind of see a little bit of that office

1205
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,799
area that will be on that second story.

1206
00:59:04,799 --> 00:59:07,599
It's really not very big at all.

1207
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:10,480
Um from the northeast and the northwest.

1208
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,480
Just a couple notes here. Again, just

1209
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,000
that second story just where there'll be

1210
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,920
a little bit of of an employee break

1211
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,000
room. And then also just the the

1212
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,920
renderings don't show the the masonry

1213
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,839
wall continuing to the north. But it

1214
00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:23,359
will continue to the north too, probably

1215
00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:25,280
the sight triangle just to provide that

1216
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,920
residential buffer.

1217
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,640
And then this is the southeast side and

1218
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,720
southwest side.

1219
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,319
And the materials board. I did put the

1220
00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:35,520
materials board. It's a little bit

1221
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:36,880
smaller so I put it behind council

1222
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,319
member Kemp and council member Anderson

1223
00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:39,680
if you guys did want to take a look at

1224
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,680
it.

1225
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,280
Uh but again the composite metal, the

1226
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,200
stucco, some of the painted steel for

1227
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,839
the accents really.

1228
00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:49,280
And then let's just briefly talk about

1229
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,799
the parking. So the parking with the

1230
00:59:50,799 --> 00:59:52,720
uses and the square footages, it's

1231
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,960
required that they have 163 parking

1232
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,839
spaces. This property by itself only has

1233
00:59:57,839 --> 00:59:59,839
112. And so what they have done is that

1234
00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:02,000
they have gone and done a shared parking

1235
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,000
agreement with the Hampton into the

1236
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,480
south. Um remember as part of our code

1237
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,000
that they can do a shared parking

1238
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,200
agreement with the property that's

1239
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,720
adjacent to it um as long as they're um

1240
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,040
hours are different and their peak uses

1241
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,040
are different hours as well. Obviously

1242
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,119
with a hotel and a retail hardware store

1243
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:22,079
that you would think that the the uh

1244
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:25,920
peak uses will be will be different.

1245
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,359
Uh this just shows kind of in that

1246
01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:28,720
parking agreement where they've

1247
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,799
determined where those 50 51 parking

1248
01:00:30,799 --> 01:00:31,920
spaces are going to be and they are

1249
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,280
going to share them back and forth. Both

1250
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:34,400
Hampton will be able to use some of

1251
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,240
ACE's and the ACE will be able to use

1252
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,559
the the 51 stalls on that uh west side

1253
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:41,200
of the Hampton in as well. There are a

1254
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,880
few few requests on this building

1255
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:43,920
depending on where you measure the

1256
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,040
height. We just wanted to make sure that

1257
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,680
it was covered. Um, building height, you

1258
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,680
could potentially measure it at 37 feet

1259
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,280
2 in. Remember that the Atkinville

1260
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,960
interchange zone plan allows building

1261
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,680
heights up to 35 feet and architectural

1262
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,240
height up to 45 ft. So, this one may be

1263
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,680
just a touchover depending on how you

1264
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,119
measure it. Uh, just remember that

1265
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:02,400
there's also been other buildings

1266
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,480
approved in this area. The Hampton in

1267
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,880
right behind it is almost 68 feet. The

1268
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,040
office building over by In and Out and

1269
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,200
Del Taco is about 50 feet. And then

1270
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:12,960
we've also seen the home to suites which

1271
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,559
is a little bit further uh north on the

1272
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:16,559
property or on the development but

1273
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:18,559
they're just over 53 feet. So still well

1274
01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:21,520
below some of the buildings around it.

1275
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,119
Another request is in the Atinville

1276
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:24,640
interchange zone plan. It does say that

1277
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,319
hardware stores are allowed but they're

1278
01:01:26,319 --> 01:01:27,599
only allowed if they're smaller than

1279
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:30,640
40,000 square feet. Um with this

1280
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:31,839
building, if you've been to the one in

1281
01:01:31,839 --> 01:01:33,119
Hurricane, you know that really the

1282
01:01:33,119 --> 01:01:35,280
hardware uses is not not everything that

1283
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,119
they do, right? It's also a retail store

1284
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:39,359
where they sell clothing and toys and

1285
01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:41,680
they have a little ice cream place. Um

1286
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,200
some of the sporting goods. So really

1287
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,520
this building by itself is uh only about

1288
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,240
60% hardware and more about 40% uh

1289
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,839
retail. So uh just over the the 40,000

1290
01:01:51,839 --> 01:01:54,000
square foot limit, but really only about

1291
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,040
60% of it being that hardware use.

1292
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,520
The final request is in regards to that

1293
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,040
uh privacy wall that's for the

1294
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,599
residential buffer. um the way that the

1295
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:05,280
building has is sitting on the lot, they

1296
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,880
really tried to maximize the width of

1297
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,240
the lot. Um with that and where the the

1298
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,480
masonry wall would have to go, it would

1299
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,920
eventually run into the building,

1300
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,920
terminate terminate into the building.

1301
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,920
And what they are requesting is that um privacy wall instead of

1302
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,599
continuing to the south property line

1303
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:23,359
that it ends where it terminates with

1304
01:02:23,359 --> 01:02:25,440
the building. And really with that, you

1305
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,440
can see anywhere where the block wall

1306
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,599
would not be, it's just landscaping.

1307
01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:31,520
There are no windows, no doors on that

1308
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:32,960
portion of the building. So really, this

1309
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,960
would have no effect on the residential

1310
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,160
um area to the west.

1311
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,839
With that, planning commission had the

1312
01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:42,079
public hearing on July 28th. Recommended

1313
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:43,920
approval with a 5 to zero vote just with

1314
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,240
that one condition, just the no lit

1315
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,319
signage along the south or the west

1316
01:02:48,319 --> 01:02:50,000
property lines just to protect those

1317
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,079
residential zones and protect the hotel.

1318
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:54,720
Um Jared Madson from Sky Engineering is

1319
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:55,920
here if you have any questions and I can

1320
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,359
answer that. You may have any that you

1321
01:02:57,359 --> 01:03:00,000
may have as well.

1322
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,760
Thank you, Brian. Any questions for

1323
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,880
Brian?

1324
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,640
>> I don't have any questions, but it's

1325
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,040
nice to have a non-controversial

1326
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,079
item for this community that seems to be

1327
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:12,000
highly favorable, actually. So,

1328
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,520
>> you you probably saw in your packet, we

1329
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,680
did receive one positive uh letter, too.

1330
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,200
So, they're pretty excited, I think, to

1331
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,029
have this down there.

1332
01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:23,200
Mayor, I'll make a motion that we

1333
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,520
approve ordinance number 2026-067

1334
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,000
amending the Akenville interchange zone

1335
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,559
planned development commercial zone on

1336
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:34,880
approximately 3.8 acres generally

1337
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,880
located at Arrowhead Canyon Drive and

1338
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,760
south of Hav Havsu Drive along with

1339
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,280
planning commission's one

1340
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:41,839
recommendation.

1341
01:03:41,839 --> 01:03:44,640
>> A second. So we have a motion by Austin,

1342
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,559
a second by Steve. This is an ordinance

1343
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:48,079
requiring roll call vote starting with

1344
01:03:48,079 --> 01:03:49,920
Danielle.

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01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,079
>> Uh, do we need to include the do we need

1346
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:53,680
to say verbally that we're including the

1347
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,920
Palani Commission's recommendations?

1348
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:56,799
>> He he did.

1349
01:03:56,799 --> 01:03:57,440
>> Oh, you said it.

1350
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:57,920
>> Yeah.

1351
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,839
>> I just need to listen better.

1352
01:03:59,839 --> 01:04:03,039
>> I Michelle Tanner. I

1353
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:04,559
>> Austin Anderson. I

1354
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:05,839
>> Steve Kemp. I

1355
01:04:05,839 --> 01:04:07,680
>> Natalie Larson I.

1356
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,079
>> Motion carries.

1357
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:11,839
Item number nine is consider approval of

1358
01:04:11,839 --> 01:04:14,799
ordinance number 2026-068

1359
01:04:14,799 --> 01:04:17,520
amending title 10-17A

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,520
of the city code amending ADU

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01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,319
regulations on lots exceeding 31 11,000

1362
01:04:22,319 --> 01:04:25,200
square ft and clarifications on existing

1363
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:26,799
detached structures and health and

1364
01:04:26,799 --> 01:04:30,789
safety codes.

1365
01:04:30,799 --> 01:04:32,799
» All right.

1366
01:04:32,799 --> 01:04:35,599
Thank you. Um earlier this year the

1367
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:39,359
state passed um SB284

1368
01:04:39,359 --> 01:04:42,880
which um made some requirements of

1369
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,880
cities to allow detached accessory

1370
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,039
dwelling units on uh on lots that are

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01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:53,760
over 11,000 square feet. Um to be honest

1372
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,799
we the city has uh St. York City has

1373
01:04:56,799 --> 01:05:00,240
been pretty progressive and um aware of

1374
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,720
the need for ADUs and and have allowed

1375
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,640
them for quite some time. So, this is

1376
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:09,039
really just a a a tweak to allow uh

1377
01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:12,559
accessory dwelling units on um on lots

1378
01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:14,880
that are that exceed that uh 11,000

1379
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,760
square foot threshold and um to bring it

1380
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,559
in compliance with with the state code.

1381
01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:23,119
So, uh with that, this is the proposed

1382
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:27,200
language. Um we are proposing that uh

1383
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,760
1017A3D

1384
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,200
uh be uh rewritten. Um that struck out

1385
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:39,280
language is then reinserted in uh number two. So number one would be

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01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:40,960
one accessory dwelling unit shall be

1387
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,039
permitted on any lot containing a single

1388
01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:44,880
family dwelling subject to the standards

1389
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,880
of the section. And then number two, a

1390
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,799
second accessory dwelling unit may be

1391
01:05:48,799 --> 01:05:51,839
permitted on and then uh lots or parcels

1392
01:05:51,839 --> 01:05:53,680
located within downtown boundaries.

1393
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,680
That's that's consistent with what we

1394
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,160
allow now. And then lots or parcels

1395
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,480
containing at least 11,000 square feet

1396
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,599
provided one ADU is attached to the

1397
01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:05,760
primary dwelling and one ADU is

1398
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,480
detached. Um so again consistent with

1399
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,880
the requirement from state code and then

1400
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,160
a lot containing uh a lot shall contain

1401
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,480
no more than uh two accessory dwelling

1402
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,480
units. Um, the other thing that SB284

1403
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,559
did was required that um

1404
01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:27,760
that existing structures that people

1405
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,960
want to convert to an ADU uh be have

1406
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,880
some sort of a path forward to allow

1407
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,400
that. So, this section J uh states that

1408
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,640
an ex an existing legally constructed

1409
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,319
accessory structure may be converted to

1410
01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:42,079
a detached accessory dwelling unit

1411
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:44,480
subject to meeting the requirements of

1412
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,720
this section. So as long as they can

1413
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,520
meet the other provisions of the ADU

1414
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,160
that would be allowed. And then finally

1415
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:56,079
um again another section uh from SB284.

1416
01:06:56,079 --> 01:06:58,960
Uh this is just compliance. Um again

1417
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,359
health and safety codes. All accessory

1418
01:07:01,359 --> 01:07:02,960
dwelling units must comply with all

1419
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,559
applicable building building health and

1420
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:07,039
fire codes. Um so again that just came

1421
01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:09,200
straight from SB284.

1422
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,440
So um so planning commission held a

1423
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,520
public hearing. There was no comment

1424
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,839
received on it, but they forwarded a

1425
01:07:15,839 --> 01:07:17,920
positive recommendation. Um,

1426
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,520
unanimously,

1427
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,000
uh, if you have any questions, I can try

1428
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,520
to answer those for you.

1429
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,760
>> I have a question. [clears throat] In

1430
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:32,559
the first, uh, redline edit on page 231

1431
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:34,799
where we struck only one accessory

1432
01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:36,400
dwelling unit or guest house should be

1433
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,039
allowed on a lot or parcel. Then within

1434
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:41,599
the downtown boundary, two ADUs are

1435
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:43,920
allowed per lot.

1436
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,079
If we had left that language the way it

1437
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:52,710
is, would two detached units be allowed?

1438
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:59,440
I'm asking staff or legal or somebody

1439
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,079
because it seems like at one point we

1440
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:04,160
had discussed this that having that

1441
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,119
second ADU on on lots where it was

1442
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:09,200
possible and I know one of the ones we

1443
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:10,720
looked at they were actually two

1444
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,359
detached units. This will restrict it

1445
01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:16,080
now to have to have one attached to and

1446
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,759
then the second one could be detached.

1447
01:08:19,759 --> 01:08:21,359
>> Correct.

1448
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:23,120
If you look at the way it's worded,

1449
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,199
number 2A, a second accessory dwelling

1450
01:08:25,199 --> 01:08:27,679
unit may be permitted on then it says a

1451
01:08:27,679 --> 01:08:29,440
lots or parcels located within the

1452
01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:31,920
downtown boundary. So I don't I the

1453
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,799
intent was to take that language and

1454
01:08:34,799 --> 01:08:37,600
allow it and apply it this the way that

1455
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,920
we're applying it now. I I don't think

1456
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,080
that and Jamie you might want to jump in

1457
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:42,560
but

1458
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,600
>> yeah the discussion um council member

1459
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,080
Kim was you know in the downtown area

1460
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,679
within that downtown boundary that was a

1461
01:08:49,679 --> 01:08:52,080
discussion and this this sort of

1462
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,080
acknowledges that um

1463
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,520
>> this specific

1464
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,120
>> the code right now that we have right

1465
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,920
now adopted you can have two attached

1466
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:02,239
two detach one attached one detached

1467
01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:04,960
downtown. This one is just changing it

1468
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,600
in that now if you have 11,000 square

1469
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,080
foot lot anywhere in the city, you can

1470
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,920
have one attached, one detached.

1471
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:12,159
Correct.

1472
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:14,319
>> It does. It does not limit the ability

1473
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:16,159
because we we looked at a specific

1474
01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:19,359
example of a very long narrow lot where

1475
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:21,279
the home builder had built a home and

1476
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:22,960
then had one detached and then had a

1477
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,440
bunch of dead space behind his home and

1478
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:27,839
was was looking at possibility of a

1479
01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:29,679
second detached unit where he had

1480
01:09:29,679 --> 01:09:31,440
parking, he had all the other things we

1481
01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:33,440
needed. Would this pre would this

1482
01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:35,199
preclude him from doing that?

1483
01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:36,880
>> Was it downtown?

1484
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,239
>> Yes.

1485
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:38,719
>> No.

1486
01:09:38,719 --> 01:09:40,480
So then that's say that was the

1487
01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:42,480
downtown discussion and that that still

1488
01:09:42,480 --> 01:09:45,359
applies. What Carol is saying is that

1489
01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:49,920
this now allows one of each anywhere in

1490
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,839
the city, not just downtown. If you have

1491
01:09:51,839 --> 01:09:53,440
an 11,000 foot lot.

1492
01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:56,159
>> But by striking that last sentence, does

1493
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:59,199
it have we told people they cannot have

1494
01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:01,600
two detached? Are we inferring that they

1495
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,640
can't have two detached units downtown?

1496
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:04,880
>> No.

1497
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,040
we're not. The downtown

1498
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:08,719
>> scratched out, but then it's added back

1499
01:10:08,719 --> 01:10:09,360
in.

1500
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,840
>> It was added back in lower.

1501
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,480
>> It's just combined with the 11,000

1502
01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:16,320
square foot lot.

1503
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,880
>> But that sentence specifically says you

1504
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,320
have to have one attached and one

1505
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,350
detached.

1506
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,239
» The next

1507
01:10:24,239 --> 01:10:26,880
>> There's two parts.

1508
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,719
>> The first part talks about town

1509
01:10:28,719 --> 01:10:30,400
downtown.

1510
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,400
And then the second part talks about

1511
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:38,390
right 11,000 square foot lots.

1512
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,239
» No, we intentionally preserved what we

1513
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:41,600
did in the downtown area. We

1514
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,440
intentionally preserved that, but this

1515
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:44,480
broadens it.

1516
01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:46,880
>> It does not It does not say downtown can

1517
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:47,600
have two.

1518
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,920
>> Okay. So, you're talking about uh

1519
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,440
>> D

1520
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:54,480
2A that sentence.

1521
01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:55,520
>> Yeah. It doesn't say

1522
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,600
>> preserves that ability for two detached

1523
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,760
in the downtown area. Okay. Thank you.

1524
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:11,270
>> Any way you want to do it.

1525
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:12,719
» I'm ready to make a motion. Mayor,

1526
01:11:12,719 --> 01:11:15,120
>> I'm ready. Mayor, I'd like to make a

1527
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:16,880
motion that we approve item number nine

1528
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:22,310
cons uh ordinance number 2026-068

1529
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,800
amending title 10-17A

1530
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,920
of the city code amending ADU accessory

1531
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,920
dwelling unit regulations on lots

1532
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,960
exceeding 11,000 square ft uh and adding

1533
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,040
clarifications on existing detached

1534
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,880
structures and health and safety codes.

1535
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:39,760
>> Second.

1536
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,159
>> We have a motion by Steve uh second by

1537
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:44,000
Michelle. This is an ordinance requiring

1538
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,600
roll call vote starting with Natalie

1539
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,159
>> Natalie Larson I.

1540
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:51,280
>> Steve Kemp I.

1541
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,560
>> Austin Anderson I.

1542
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,600
>> Michelle Tanner. I Danielle Larkin I.

1543
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,000
>> Motion carries.

1544
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,360
That it. Okay. So now we need a motion

1545
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:05,189
to

1546
01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:07,360
Yes. Let's do that. Do we have any

1547
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,239
appointments? Nope.

1548
01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:13,040
Then we need uh uh reports from council

1549
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,560
members.

1550
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,920
Uh starting with you, Michelle.

1551
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,910
>> No reports.

1552
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,360
» Uh mayor, Friday, August 28th is the art

1553
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,320
summit. So every year our art commission

1554
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,920
holds what's called the art summit. So

1555
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,080
if there are any arts organizations that

1556
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,880
have received wrap tax, they're required

1557
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,120
to come to the art summit. And if there

1558
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:38,880
are arts organizations that would like

1559
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,000
to receive the wrap tax, um, they should

1560
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,199
come to the art summit. So, it's

1561
01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:44,719
something you can register for on our

1562
01:12:44,719 --> 01:12:49,920
website and it is happening on the 28th.

1563
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,120
>> Very cool. Natalie, anything?

1564
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,080
>> Dixie Days is coming your way. Social

1565
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,400
media has a lot of posts on it. There's

1566
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,400
a lot of great activities, a little bit

1567
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,000
for everybody. We had our last meeting

1568
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,640
today on it. and I just think it will be

1569
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:11,120
a fantastic event for our community. But

1570
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,760
we also have the September 11th by our

1571
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,040
fire department memorial coming up. And

1572
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,640
if you haven't been to the field of

1573
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,679
flags before, you should bring your

1574
01:13:21,679 --> 01:13:24,560
children and your grandparents

1575
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,800
and get there early in the morning and

1576
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,360
sit there and look at those flags and

1577
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,920
remember that there's an individual who

1578
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,800
lost their life. And if you haven't done

1579
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,239
that, come in the evening or come

1580
01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:38,320
whenever you can. I've been there when

1581
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,159
the fire department has worked with the

1582
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:41,920
Legacy Elementary School and other

1583
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,520
elementary schools and brought those

1584
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,120
kids to that event and

1585
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:48,400
mo some of their parents weren't

1586
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:49,840
probably even born at that point. But

1587
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,159
it's very, very thoughtful, memorable

1588
01:13:52,159 --> 01:13:53,679
moment. And then they're having the

1589
01:13:53,679 --> 01:13:57,280
stair climb also at Tech Ridge and

1590
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,040
people should sign up to take that

1591
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,600
challenge. So look on the website and

1592
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,560
get get signed up for that.

1593
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,560
I have no reports.

1594
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,640
>> Mayor, I serve on the Southwest Mosquito

1595
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,480
Abayment Board, one of my favorite

1596
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:14,000
boards. Uh, but at the last meeting, we

1597
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,000
did talk about there was there's been

1598
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,520
several positive cases of West Nile in

1599
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,120
the mosquitoes here with all the rain

1600
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,280
we've had, we've had the mosquitoes that

1601
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,520
came out. Uh, they're working to get

1602
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,040
that down. But one thing also I want to

1603
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,360
mention they if you a resident's

1604
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,360
probably I didn't know this but if you

1605
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,600
do see mosquitoes around your area have

1606
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,440
a problem you can call mosquito

1607
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:36,960
abatement and they'll send people right

1608
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,560
out and they're very passionate do a

1609
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,360
great job so encourage them to take

1610
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,360
advantage of that

1611
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,280
>> standing water's the enemy right

1612
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,520
>> yeah and keep you know inoculate your

1613
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,280
horses you don't want less now on the

1614
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,040
horses but

1615
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,560
>> I didn't know either I was like how did

1616
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,960
we get it and I guess we get it from

1617
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,159
birds

1618
01:14:56,159 --> 01:14:57,920
mosquitoes bite the birds and the birds

1619
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,920
fly from here to Salt Lake or wherever

1620
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:01,920
and that's how the West Nile gets

1621
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,360
spread. So,

1622
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:04,560
>> it's interesting.

1623
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,880
>> Very, very cool. All right. Anything

1624
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,159
else? Okay. Now, we need a motion. We do

1625
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:12,400
need to reconvene in our work meeting.

1626
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,640
So, I need a motion to adjourn city

1627
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,440
council and reconvene in work meeting.

1628
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:19,040
Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that we

1629
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,440
adjourn the city council meeting and

1630
01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:23,760
reconvene in our work meeting in the

1631
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,120
city council boardroom.

1632
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:25,840
>> Second.

1633
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,360
>> We have a motion by Steve, second by

1634
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,280
Michelle. All in favor say I.

1635
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,040
>> I.

1636
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:45,189
>> It's non-debatable.

1637
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:47,760
Lonnie, do planners wear ties in

1638
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,199
Wyoming?

1639
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:51,600
They do.