[0:38] Good afternoon and welcome to our regular city Council meeting. [0:43] We respectfully acknowledge the province of Newfoundland Labrador, which city [0:47] of St. John's is the capital city as the ancestral [0:51] homelands of the biotic. Today these lands are home to [0:54] a diverse population of indigenous and other peoples. We would [0:58] also like to acknowledge with respect the diverse histories and [1:01] cultures of the Mi'kmaq in you Inuits and Southern Inuit. [1:05] Of this province. The agenda for today's meeting is before [1:10] you move by Councillor Bruce, seconded by Councillor Rile. Call [1:17] the question. [1:44] Is carriage. There is. Just to correct that. There is [1:50] two additions. To the agenda. To new business. That is [1:59] the report I'm revenue and expenditures for fiscal 2025. And [2:03] the ratification of the collective agreement between the City of [2:06] St. John's and Cupi local 569. Move the amendment to [2:14] the. Agenda. Move by Deputy Mayor Ellsworth, second to buy [2:20] Councillor Davis. Call the question. [2:41] Your vote for me there, please. [3:27] Motion's carried. [3:39] Development applications. Variants for accessory ability. For the Minutes. Just [3:47] in minutes. Sorry, back to the minutes. The minutes for [3:54] October August 11th, 2026. Are before you. Moved by Constar [4:01] Cattig in Second of Bay Councillor Earl. Call the question. [4:22] Motions carried. Development Applications. Variance for accessory building, 444 Matix [4:32] Cove Road Councillor Rod. Thank you, your warship. This is [4:37] to seek approval for variance to an accessory building. Area [4:41] at 444 Maddox Cove Road. An application was received to [4:46] Construct and Accessory Building at 444 Maddox Cove Road. The [4:51] applicant is requesting a non - percent variant on the [4:55] accessory building area to allow an area of 179. 86 [5:01] metres squared. For a residential use. The accessory building areas [5:05] limited to lesser of 10 percent of the lot area [5:10] or 75 percent of the residential Building for print. Section [5:15] 7. 4 of the St. John's Development Regulations allows Council [5:19] to grant the variants from the applicable requirements to a [5:25] maximum of 10 percent if the cumulative effect of all [5:29] variants on the lot is not greater than 10 percent. [5:33] Notices were issued to abiding property owners as well as [5:37] posted on the City website and posted into location City [5:42] Hall and the City Hall and XNOS missions were received. [5:46] So the recommendation is that Council approve a 9 - [5:50] percent variance on the accessory building at 444 Maddox Cove [5:54] Road. To allow for an area of 179. 86 square [6:00] metres. Second of all, Councillor Earl. Comments. Call a question. [6:29] Deputy Mayor. Yeah, keep kicking me out. [6:39] All the favourite. Motion's carried. [6:49] 99 New Co - Furrows. Councillor Ryle. Thank you, Warshif. [6:59] A change of nonconform issues, application has been submitted for [7:03] 199 New Cove Road. The application proposed a change of [7:08] nonconforming use from a retail to bakery. The bakery would [7:12] occupy a floor area of 76. 5 metres squared and [7:16] operate Monday to Saturday, 8 a. m. to 8 p. [7:19] m. Debacrie would operate on an order fulfillment basis. Orders [7:24] will be received online and delivered to customers. There will [7:28] be, would be now storefront for public visitation. Parking would [7:34] be provided on site. The African site is on residential [7:37] R1. Five submissions were received of which four were in [7:41] support while won opposed wanted it to remain a convenience [7:46] store. Of those in support, the only concern was to [7:50] potential impact of noise from the exhaust fan from the [7:53] commercial kitchen. So the recommendation is that council approved the [8:00] change for non - conforming use to allow proposed bakery [8:03] at 99 New Cove Road. Second of all, Councillor Davis. [8:10] Comments. Call the question. [8:22] S carried. 50 Monday Pound Road. Council ORR. Thank you [8:28] a warship. The discretionary use application has been submitted for [8:34] Morgan Enterprise Limited for 50 Monday Pond Road. The application [8:38] is for the expansion of an existing medical clinic for [8:42] an additional 381 metre squared area. The total floor area [8:47] would be 2, 476 metres squared. And hours of evaporation [8:52] will remain Monday to Friday, 8 a. m. to 8 [8:55] p. m. Parking is provided on site. The applicant site [8:59] is owned industrial commercial. So the recommendation is Council Proved [9:06] Extension to the existing medical clinic use at 50 Mondround [9:10] Pond Road, which is a discretionary use. Second to buy [9:16] Councillor Nosworthy. Councillor Brian. Is this for. An extension to [9:22] the building or interior fiddle. Uh. You worship. [9:34] print of a building. Any further comments. Questions. [9:44] Call a question. [9:59] S carried. 65 Glen Air Street. Councillor Rod. Thank you, [10:07] your warship. Request to relieve one parking space for residential [10:12] dwelling unit at 65 Glener Street. An application was submitted [10:16] at 65 Linear Street to add an additional subsidiary dwelling [10:21] unit to the existing single detached dwelling. As per section [10:25] 8. 3 of the envision St. John's Development Regulations, one [10:29] parking space is required for east residential dwelling unit. The [10:34] property has four stacked parking spaces. Park and relief for [10:38] one space is requested for a secondary subsecretary dwelling unit. [10:43] Parking Relief rational is at the driveway allows for stack [10:47] parking and the property is within walking distance to multiple [10:52] bus routes and amenities. As per section 8. 12 of [10:56] the development regulations were an applicant wishes to provide a [10:59] different number of parking spaces other than those required Council's [11:03] child request a parking report. Where in the opinion of [11:07] council the requested change does not marry to PROC ME [11:11] 4 Council may accept the staff report which is presented [11:14] as a decision note. The recommendation is that Council approved [11:20] parking relief for warm parking space at 65 Glennier Street [11:24] to allow for a second subsecurity dwelling unit. Second of [11:31] our councillor Bruce. Councillor Hickman. It says there's four spaces [11:36] there now. So this sounds like it's the third unit [11:40] though. Or is this now the 50 on it. [11:53] It says there's four stack, right? There's four spaces are [11:56] now. They want relief for one space. So that means [12:00] they still have four spaces. But each unit needs one [12:03] space. So I don't understand. Are there already four spaces [12:06] in that four units in the house. Uh, you worship. [12:15] We don't, uh. Acknowledge stacked parking as parking. So the [12:19] driveway is heavy enough run by the stacked. Stack parking [12:23] requires coordination with other units in the dwelling. So while [12:26] this physically the space is there. And we put that [12:28] in the note for council's considerations that you know, they [12:31] won't end up on the street or whatever. There is [12:33] parking. But from our regulation stack parking is not really [12:39] parking that we consider. So I believe this is just [12:42] one subsidiary U and or a third unit. Yeah. We [12:50] further comments, questions. Call a question. [13:17] Of Davis. Nope. Motion's carried. [13:27] 167 Babel's wrote, Councillor Royal. Thank you, your worship. A [13:34] change of nonconforming use application has been submitted for 167 [13:38] Babel's Road to proposed application is for a change in [13:43] the restaurant hours of operation, which is an existing nonconforming [13:47] use at this location. The new application applicant is proposing [13:53] revised hours of Operation from 11 a. m. to 7 [13:56] p. m. Seven days a week. This is an extended [14:00] from the currently approved hours of 3 p. m. to [14:04] 9 p. m. Tuesday to Friday. And 10 a. m. [14:07] to 8 p. m. on Saturday. The floor area would [14:11] be 90 metres squared on on - site parking is [14:13] provided. The applicant site is owned commercial neighbourhood. One submission [14:18] was received which supported the proposal and encouraged more development [14:23] of its kind in the area. So the recommendation is [14:29] a council - proved to revise hours of operation. For [14:32] the existing nonconforming use at 167 Bables Road, which would [14:37] allow the restaurant to operate seven days a week from [14:40] 11am to 7pm. Second to buy, Councillor Cadigan. Any comments. [14:51] Got a question. [15:04] S carried. Development permits lists and building permits lists are [15:10] there for your... before you, for your parousal. Requisitions, payrolls [15:17] and accounts. The payments. Weekly payment vouchers for the weeks [15:26] ending August 12th and August 19th. 2026. Moved by Councillor [15:32] Bruce. Seconded by Deputy Mayor. Call a question. [15:49] S carried. Contracts awarded July 21st [15:59] and July 28th, provided for your information. Notice his motion [16:07] resolutions questions, petitions. No business. Observance [16:17] of National Day for Truth and Reconciliation September 30th, 2026. [16:24] Thank you, worship. We just need to get counsel's approval [16:27] to observe the national diaphrag truth in reconciliation in line [16:30] with federal and provincial governments. Out of way falls on [16:33] September 30th. And has been observed by the city for [16:37] several years. These observance will suspend services and caused municipal [16:41] billing to Phillies. Direction is required for frapness must plan [16:46] for courtingly. So I moved that we accept that your [16:48] worship. Second to buy. Councillor Rile. Comments. [16:58] Councillor Davis. A question, if staff work on that day, [17:03] is it an overtime paid holiday. Once you need to. [17:12] So is that included in the 510, 000 dollar. Before [17:19] the comments. Call a question. [17:31] Carried. Special events regulatory committee 2026 summer event 6. Councillor [17:39] Bruce. Thank you, Worship. Seeking Council approval for the following [17:43] low closures associated with these, I think it's three events. [17:48] The first one is Uniform Services Ron Provincial Marathon. Scheduled [17:52] to take place on Sunday, September the 13th. All roads [17:55] will be open after the last runners. The start finish [17:57] for this event will take place in Barring Park to [17:59] accommodate runner safety. There will be several lane reductions and [18:03] road closures in place. Closure will be implemented by experienced [18:06] race marshals and the road closures are listed below. Gower [18:09] Street Block Party scheduled to take place in September 13th, [18:12] rain date of the 20th. A Block Party organised by [18:14] the four churches in the area. They're requesting to close [18:17] Gawer Street from Cathedral Street to Church Hill from 11 [18:19] a. m. to 2 p. m. and volunteers will be [18:22] positioned on barricades. And the Kery Street block party scheduled [18:26] to take place on September the 19th. The rain date [18:28] of the 20th. A block party organised by the residents [18:30] of the area. Their requesting to close Carrie Street from [18:33] Aragol Street, the Porsche of Colf Road from 11 a. [18:36] m. to 3 p. m. Volunteers will be positioned on [18:39] barricades and local vehicle and emergency access will be granted. [18:42] Sorry, the four. Battle of Britain parade and ceremony scheduled [18:47] to take place on Sunday, September the 20th. Roe closures [18:49] will be implemented by the RNC and the military police [18:52] and the royal closures are relisted below their role enclosures. [18:56] Starting at the CLB. And Terry Fox runs scheduled to [18:59] take place in September 20th around Kitty Bitty Lake, the [19:01] organisers are requesting the closure from Chancey Drive from Carnell [19:05] to Lakeview Avenue and from Lakeview Avenue to Forest Road [19:09] from 9 a. m. to 1 p. m. So I'll [19:11] move that we approve the road closures associated with the [19:15] following events uniform services, run provincial marathon on September 13th. [19:19] Gary Street Block Party on September the 30th. Carrie Street [19:22] Block Party in September the 90s Battle of Britain parade [19:25] and ceremony on September 20th and Terry Fox run on [19:28] September the 20th. Councillor Cattigan. I live on one of [19:34] the streets that might be closing so I think I [19:36] have to abstain from voting. Potentially. It's a question. [19:49] Um, yeah, I mean the confident interest refers to a [19:54] special interest. So, um, kind of got to judge that [19:57] for yourself. I think you would be fine if you [20:00] decided to cut conflict. I think that that would be [20:02] appropriate. But again, if you think you can be objective [20:04] about it, it's a different manner. So it's generally like [20:09] it would affect all the people on the street in [20:11] the same way. So is a broader broadcast of people [20:15] who are experiencing the road closures versus if it was [20:18] just like affecting your house specifically. So I think you're [20:21] okay to go ahead and vote on it. But obviously [20:25] it's ultimately your decision to do so. Okay. Second to [20:32] buy Councillor Catigan. Any comments. Call [20:42] a question. [20:52] S carried. 105 Messenger Drive interprets zone lines. Councillor Davis. [21:02] So we're voting to interpret the zone lines at 105 [21:04] Messenger Drive. Between commercial chemount and open space, reflecting the [21:09] determination that the wetland in the area is not rated [21:12] highly enough to be a protected wetland. It's owned by [21:15] Bristol Development Inc. who want to develop it. It's mostly [21:18] zoned open space. With a small portion zone commercial came [21:22] out. And it's designed open space within the minister plan. [21:27] Current length of mesh drive ends here with the proposals [21:30] to one day extend the road for further north. Jason [21:34] is the yellow Marsh wetland system. And, uh, the wetland [21:37] boarding of Parsegun, the subject property did not rank high [21:40] enough and is therefore no longer protected wetland. City staff [21:44] reviewed the subject property determined if the need for public [21:47] open space here aside from the wetland issue. The stream [21:50] that flows through the area has a one in 100 [21:52] year floodplain and a 15 metre buffer on each side [21:54] of it. And that will remain reserved from future development. [21:58] No CD division expressed interests in 105 mission to drive [22:02] for active or passive open space. Therefore, the only thing [22:04] keeping the existing open space zone on the property is [22:07] the former status of the protected wet line, which is [22:09] now removed. Since the wetland on the subject property is [22:13] no longer protected, then the zone line between CK and [22:16] ozones can be interpreted to follow the floodplain buffer of [22:19] the stream. Therefore the chief minister planner interprets his own [22:22] lines thus. It will be changes made to the missile [22:25] plan. The province administers St. John's urban regional regions regional [22:31] plan and applies the public open space designation and the [22:34] yellow marsh area. At the scale of the regional plans [22:37] future land use map this change will be virtually invisible. [22:40] There is a wider issue with regional plan which city [22:43] staff will address with Council soon when the regional plans [22:46] map was converted from a paper format to digital, the [22:48] public open space designation was applied to many more lands [22:51] in St. John's and originally included. Under the previous map, [22:55] this area was designated as urban development and there would [22:58] have been no concerns over a zone line interpretation. Extended [23:01] the public open space rezoning, sorry, mapping, creating, created the [23:06] time pressures and other problems when council considered several rezoning [23:09] since the regional plan map was digitized. Staff, we'll bring [23:12] forward a motion to council in future with the detail [23:14] map of proposed changes to the regional plan map, the [23:18] intent of which will apply appropriate designations, remove friction points [23:21] with our municipal plan designation and land use zones and [23:24] reduce processing time for some future rezonings. So actually we're [23:30] not voting on this. Conclusion next steps. Chief Minister Planner [23:33] interprets his own line at 105 Messenger Drive to change [23:35] the boundary between CK Zone and OpenSpace Zone to run [23:39] along the floodplain buffer of the one 100 year floodline [23:42] of the stream that flows nearby corresponding changes will be [23:45] made in the to the future land use map of [23:48] the Envision St. John's municipal plan affecting the boundary between [23:50] the commercial district and the open space district. So there. [23:58] Oh, it's an information note. Any comments. None. [24:09] Forest road interprets own lines, Councillor Davis. So this is [24:16] an information note. We're going to interpret zone lines affecting [24:18] 245 Forest Road, which is a City - owned property. [24:21] We have identified the property at 245 Forest Road as [24:25] a potential site for new affordable housing. This is part [24:27] of the have fund championed by the federal government, which [24:30] has provided funding to the city to increase supply of [24:32] housing, including affordable housing. Runs the long forest road crossing [24:36] from the intersection with Kuckuckle's Cove Road. And we're Forest [24:40] Road ends and KDVD Village starts. It is open line [24:43] with grass and trees sloping down from the road towards [24:45] Kitty BD Lake. There was a trail there. The west [24:48] is the City's nonprofit housing. To the east or houses, [24:53] which are privately owned or owned by NL housing. Subject [24:57] property has approximately 166 metres of frontage along Forest Road, [25:00] of which approximately 111 metres is zoned open space. And [25:03] the other 55 metres zoned R1. We've initiated processed to [25:07] consider rezoning part of 245 forest road for affordable housing. [25:11] If the land is rezoned in future, the City will [25:13] issue a request for proposals for groups to bid on [25:15] the land for affordable housing. So in future, it is [25:18] possible that the Ar Roden Zone will change to another [25:21] zone for higher density housing. There was a path that [25:24] runs down there so that City Cruz can get access [25:27] to our suit's lift station. The current boundary between the [25:30] R1 zone and the ozone cuts across this path. As [25:33] it is a physical feature that has existed for decades, [25:36] the PATS intersection with Forest Road provides a useful place [25:38] to mark the boundary. Moving the zone line allows several [25:42] more metres of frontage. To allow for more sensibility design [25:45] and affordable housing. So as a result, the chief municipal [25:49] planner can interpret the boundary line between R1Z and ozone [25:54] so that 245 forest road is zoned. R1 is far [25:57] east as the point where the path that provides access [25:59] behind 179 Forest Road Inch DeX Road. And the remainder [26:03] of the open space zone at 245 Forest Road remains [26:05] in place. Corresponding changes will be made to the envision [26:08] St. John's municipal plan map for boundaries between the residential [26:11] district and open SPETS district. So the conclusion next steps [26:15] is at 245 Forest Road, the zone boundary between R1 [26:19] Zone and Ozone. Is extended east to the point where [26:22] the excess path behind 179 Forest Road meets the road [26:26] corresponding changes will be made to the future land use [26:29] map of the Envisions St. John's Municipal Plan. And this [26:31] accords with the rules of zone interpretation section 10 - [26:35] 3 of the vision St. John's Development RECS. For your [26:39] information. Thank you very much Councillor Davis. 15 other business. [26:48] Report I'm revenue and expenditures for 2025. Deputy Mayor. Thank [26:55] you, your worship. By the way, the adoption of the [27:00] executive summary and report of expendience for year ending December [27:04] 31st, 2025. The St. John's 2025 Executive Summary Report and [27:10] Revenue on Expanded Shares is presented and discussed here in. [27:14] It is important to distinguish between the executive submarine report [27:18] report in this note. And if financial statements that were [27:22] adopted back in June. The other finance stables have prepared [27:25] using accrual based accounting, whereas the executive sub report while [27:30] still based on others is presented using the base accounting. [27:35] The City's Budget is prepared using cash - based accounting, [27:39] meaning the financial results presented area in all the cities [27:43] accountable to the approved operating budget. This supports the city's [27:47] commitment to openness and transparency. Isn't nothing that the budget [27:52] is presented in the executive report in the city's disgusted [27:55] budget. The adjustable budget is the original approved budget. Adjusted [27:59] to reflect a transfers and changes that occur throughout the [28:02] year for items not known in the budget. These adjustments [28:08] are reflective of one - off transactions which net to [28:10] zero and do not result in a permanent increase in [28:13] City's budget. So as you go down through, we worship [28:17] your seed as a number of items that contribute to [28:21] changes in our financial statement ending 2025. Nothing here that [28:27] the ordinary, just regular type anomalies. And they're all detailed [28:32] there in the report for anybody that wishes to have [28:35] a look at them. I think the feat that we [28:37] would like to identify here is in the table below [28:41] there shows that cities communicate as if there's ever 31st, [28:47] 2025 currently is at 2. 6 million dollars. The [28:57] council looking for just skip number to be here for [29:00] a second. Yeah, so [29:11] the 2025 city reports that operating cash surplus of 6. [29:16] 7 million, which equates to a 1. 8 percent variant. [29:22] Just a budget of 378 million dollars. So I moved [29:32] the Councillor Dr. Sub Report on Revenue Expendiers for the [29:37] Year Ending December 31st, 2025. And approved preserving the 20. [29:42] 6 million in accumulative surplus as a contingency, so moved. [29:47] Second to buy Councillor Noesworthy. Just like to say that [29:54] I'm very pleased with the results for 2025. I think [29:57] the staff at all levels here in the city for [30:00] the work that they've done over 2025. If you look [30:05] at the total budget of 378 million, they have a [30:09] 6. 7 million dollar. Surplus. You're about 1. 8 percent. [30:13] Of the budget, which is a pretty good budgeting. Especially [30:19] when you consider that it was that surplus was made [30:22] up of a combination of increased expenditures in modest increases. [30:28] In revenue, sorry. And decreases and expenditures on the expenditure [30:33] side. So, uh, it's, um, it puts us in good [30:38] financial state where Deputy Mayor just pointed out that our [30:44] accumulated surplus now, surround 20. 6 million. Uh, that we've [30:49] accumulated over the last number of years. Uh, which gives [30:52] the sun flexibility, uh, within our finances. Uh, for things [30:57] that, uh, that happened at around plant. Uh, which, which [31:03] we have to be, uh, prepared for the, those possibilities [31:06] as well. So just want to thank all the staff, [31:10] this particularly our staff and our finance department for the [31:12] work that they've done, uh, but staff right through the [31:15] whole organisation for their focus on, um, on creating efficiencies [31:20] within our system. Need further comments. [31:34] Adoption move by. Gupt mover in seconder? Forgot that. Called [31:40] the question. Two efficient. [31:59] Carries. Collective agreements. Reached with QP local 569, Deputy Mayor. [32:10] I thank you, your worship. A big afford of Councillor [32:14] Raddify negotiated collective agreement to a cities and John's and [32:17] QP 569. The City, Akibi 569, have reached the terrific [32:22] collective agreement for the period of July 1st, 2026. June [32:27] 30th, 2030. The union, ratify degree, but August the 12th, [32:32] 2026. It has now been brought to council for our [32:35] ratification vote. In addition to some language changes that will [32:39] create an operation efficiencies, the key terms of the agreement, [32:44] it's a four - year agreement. We identify the wage [32:47] increases there at four percent year one. 2. 25 year [32:51] two, 3. 25 in year three. 3. 5 in year [32:56] four. Total cough stuff to negotiate at gender wage. Increase [33:00] over four years. Is eight million five hundred seventy three [33:03] thousand. With the city bonus in place. So I want [33:09] to move the Council Ratify, the negotiated collective agreements. We [33:13] see John's AQP by six nine. And I'll speak to [33:17] a quick day before I move on. Second to buy. [33:21] Councillor Hickman. Deputy Mayor. Thank you, Horship. First of all, [33:27] I want to thank teams on both sides. Obviously, uh, [33:31] disability law, projective process. I think at our table, we [33:35] started discussions back in December. About the upcoming negotiations and [33:39] contract discussions. Uh, the negotiating team from both sides started [33:44] back in May. I worked through the summer to come [33:48] to terms on a negotiated agreement that gives us certainly [33:53] what our employees for the next four years. But also [33:56] gives our taxpayer certainly for programs of services. We provide [34:00] it for the next four years. When you look at [34:03] the overall cost of the salary increases compared to the [34:08] total budget of the city, while it is, obviously the [34:13] number that we're watching and managing and trying to manage [34:16] extensives is important that we also understand that we shouldn't [34:20] sit at the table with any arrogance that we don't [34:24] think our employees could go somewhere else or to find [34:27] deployment somewhere else. And, you know, we are still struggling [34:31] within the workforces to maintain a workforce. We're still having, [34:36] uh, positions that we're still trying to fill in vacancies. [34:40] Um, this disagreement is comparable to other municipalist valleys, uh, [34:44] be it grandfalls. My girl ourselves. Uh, so it also [34:49] shows that in the community, um, what would be brought [34:54] to the table. And what it does, it allows us [34:58] to continue to provide solid programming to our residents. Our [35:04] Recreation Family stay open. Our dollar service and program that [35:08] are there for our youth for our seniors. These all [35:10] things, you know, cumulusly add value certainly to the city. [35:18] Oh, and saying that, that's it for me. And I [35:21] appreciate the, uh. Thank you very much, Eppan Mayor. Any [35:25] comments. Councillor Davis. So I want to make something really [35:32] clear. I'm going to be voting against this. Ratification. And [35:37] it's not a vote against the employees to see St. [35:39] John's or management. I know everybody worked hard to try [35:42] and come to resolution. I know the environment was difficult. [35:45] With other municipalities setting very high bar. And I respect [35:49] all our employees. And the work they do every day. [35:52] And the essential work that they do every day. And [35:54] I also believe that they deserve fair competitive compensation. But [36:01] I lie awake at night thinking about the other responsibility [36:05] we have. Which is to the residents and the people [36:09] who pay for those services. And the long - term [36:14] cost of this. And I know that we just demonstrated [36:16] that we, you know, we had good financial results, but [36:19] of course we did increase taxes by four point spending [36:22] by 4. 8 percent. And by default, because we have [36:25] a balanced budget by 4. 8 percent. And I know [36:31] staff worked hard to come in. On budget. And the [36:38] wage increases a four percent. 2. 25 next year, 3. [36:43] 25 following year and 3. 5 percent. They add up [36:46] to be 13 percent. And the last four years, it [36:52] was 11 percent last year. It was 3. 5 percent [36:55] raise in July. And as that works its way through [36:59] the system, testimated it's going to cost about 10. 6 [37:02] million dollars extra per year by 2029. So where's the [37:07] money coming from? Obviously, he's coming from taxpayers. And we [37:13] often say, well, the mill rate isn't changing. But of [37:15] course success value is. So it's still hitting people. And [37:18] property that you own is increasing in value, which makes [37:21] you wealthier. But you can't, it's not a bank. You [37:23] can't withdraw money from a competitor taxes. And one of [37:25] the line items in our revenue was over 600, 000 [37:28] dollars in extro arrear's interests. So to me, that kind [37:32] of says that some people are struggling to be able [37:35] to pay their taxes more than we estimated would. There [37:39] was also the impact on businesses who pay 20 over [37:42] 29 percent, 2. 9 percent on the property that they [37:47] contributed. And we know their environment is challenging. And that [37:50] also factors into it. And then of to even renters [37:54] are impacted, of course, because they're renting, but the people [37:58] or businesses that own their property, they will pass along [38:01] that attacks. And one good thing that concerns me is [38:04] small landowners who have one apartment in their home. They [38:07] may absorb the increases over time. But there could be [38:10] a tipping point when we raise taxes just enough that [38:13] all of a sudden the major correction. And we hear [38:15] stories of people going from affordable rent. To large jumps [38:19] up to market rent. And I worry about the impacts [38:21] of that. And we know the businesses, great jobs. And [38:26] we know that people need places to live. So, um, [38:32] I struggle and I know that the money has to [38:35] come from somewhere. And, um, and I know we have [38:38] to keep doing our job. And, you know, for me, [38:42] it's the environment is very uncertain. Of course, we're dealing [38:44] with the trade war that we're living within. And the [38:50] employees deserve fairness and it's challenge. I know all my [38:54] colleagues really struggled. And, you know, my message is basically [38:59] employees are a fairness. Residents deserve affordability. Business deserve competitiveness. [39:04] Renters deserve affordable housing. Future taxpayers deserve a city that [39:07] maintains the financial flexibility. So for me, it's resilience. Have [39:11] we spent all weekend spend and maybe a little bit [39:13] more with this collective agreement and other contracts that we [39:16] negotiate with private contract. There's other people. I think that's [39:20] where we're, I think right now we're right at that [39:22] threshold. And I'm, I'm concerned about the future. And I [39:28] just feel overall that we've taken away flexibility that we [39:32] probably will wish we had as we move forward. Thank [39:36] you. Further comment. [39:53] I want to thank Councillor Davis for those comments. And [39:57] really when you break it down like that. It's hard [40:01] to not pay attention to that. And so I won't [40:07] be voting in favor of this either. Thank you. For [40:16] that comments. And like it's making any worship. Deputy Mayor. [40:25] I think you woke up. No, so I guess this [40:31] concerning comments from Councillor Dave's about the interest rare indicator [40:36] that people are in trouble. That's not correct. Um, we [40:39] are very conservative in how we budget for our interest [40:42] arreers. We never budget for people to be passed through [40:45] or behind. And we see the same thing happening a [40:49] few years ago when the Vic plotter was bullied with [40:51] the bankruptcy billing through a health for a period of [40:53] time. And then what the counts got cleared up, we [40:58] received extra indicating interests from there. So no interests, not [41:04] an indication of that piece. With regard to the expense [41:09] that we've occur or are incurring, um, you know, as [41:13] we continue to build our budgets and bring our budget [41:17] forward, we are very cognizable. Every dollar that we're looking [41:20] at every dollar we spend. If you look at like, [41:24] see, we just bought four to 2025 budget. Pretty well [41:27] bounced a budget. Um, we anticipated some of these increases [41:30] as we're building the budgets for 26, 27. So there's [41:34] the, you know, there's nothing here. That's unknown to us [41:38] in self facets. And I would encourage people not to [41:42] be two shell shocked by the commentary, um, we're, we're, [41:46] we're building in 2027 budget. And I'm very optimistic at [41:50] where we're going to land in 2027 budget. And hopefully [41:53] as we bring forward early to follow with, they'll indicate [41:56] to the community where we are. But you know, it [42:00] is also about investing in our community. It's about investing [42:03] in our programs and services. Affordability in the cities, not [42:07] only the taxation piece, uh, I think your worship, you [42:11] can regularly taxation around 70 percent of our revenue, but [42:16] also there are other things we do within our budget [42:18] to maintain affordability. For example, what Metrobus, we have increased [42:22] DDS in Metrobus for years. If we understand the need [42:25] for transit for individuals, they'll be able to get to [42:28] a front work and invest in those programs. We continued [42:32] strongly in our programs for our seniors to make sure [42:36] that Daniel are healthy living quality of life within our [42:39] city. We investivally in a recreation program through our youth. [42:43] Heptical program to help provide sports through families and communities. [42:47] None of that would be possible if we never had [42:51] a strong contingent workforce. They was able really willing and [42:55] able to be able to work and provide service and [42:57] programs. The wild, at the Lee for Finance, I watch [43:02] every penny. And certainly cognizant of every penny that we're [43:04] doing. Isn't that just the situation of a linear decision [43:08] about tax increase salaries? We also work at the impact [43:13] and the benefits of not doing programs and services, not [43:16] delivering and not having people come to the table. So [43:19] for me, this is making fossil's not a struggle. So, [43:23] uh, you know, I didn't struggle through this process. I [43:25] certainly step back and took all the information that we [43:27] had. Took the, uh, the increased salaries competitiveness, fair ways [43:33] for our employees, but also trying to provide good benefits [43:35] for our taxpayers. And I feel, I feel very, I [43:39] guess I feel satisfied and comfortable that we've landed somewhere [43:42] that we can balance all this out. Look after our [43:44] employees look after our residents and make sure we have [43:47] a city to people or after you live in. Thank [43:50] you. Thank you. Any further comments. Call a question. [44:16] Motions carriage, eight to two. That is our regular [44:26] portion of our agenda. Councillor Cadigan. Thank you. Uh, your [44:31] worship. Um, this summer, I'm sure many of my colleagues [44:36] and I've also received many emails from residents who are [44:40] concerned about e - bikes and other motorized bikes on [44:45] our streets. And while we are quite limited within the [44:48] city to regulate their use, the provincial government is conducting [44:52] a feedback study to help inform their decision making on [44:57] the highway traffic act. And they're specifically looking for the [45:01] public's feedback on e - bikes e - scooters and [45:04] other micromobility devices. So I wanted to encourage folks, um, [45:08] who have feedback to share, um, to go on the [45:12] engage NL page or email road safety feedback at gov. [45:17] nl. ca to share their opinion and their feedback to [45:23] help inform the provincial government. And I also wanted to, [45:26] I think this is our last meeting before school starts [45:28] again, which is kind of hard to believe, um, wish [45:31] everyone the best of luck back to school. I wish [45:35] you a very successful school year. Thank you. Councillor Hickman. [45:40] So on a mention, one display that's on at the [45:43] Fluvarium, uh, is columnity engine. And that's a great hands [45:48] - on exhibit for young people to learn about the [45:51] body human body. And it's in cooperation with the organ [45:55] donation. Canada. And it's a really interesting and engaging display [46:01] for young people, I must say. I was quite impressed [46:04] when I saw it. On the goal till September 14th. [46:07] So come and visit the Sloverium to see that. And [46:09] all the other exhibits. Councillor Ryle. Councillor Bruce. Councillor Halley. [46:16] Councillor Knowsburg. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, Building on Councillor Catigan's [46:22] point about back to school. We've got a back to [46:24] school cleanup that Calhoun Hoots Elementary, myself and MHA Keith [46:27] Wade are going to be hosting that this Saturday, uh, [46:30] 10 a. m. So come on out. It's going to [46:32] be a great time to, uh, tidy up our community [46:35] and, uh, hope to see as many folks out there [46:36] as possible. Thank you so much. Councillor Davis. I just [46:43] so parents. Don't freak out. I think we're actually meeting [46:47] one more time before school. I think, I think we're [46:50] meeting on the eighth, right? Yes next time. Yeah. Okay, [46:53] cool. Um, again, it's beautiful day out there today. And [46:57] for those of us who are really busy all summer, [46:59] I'm going to try and enjoy the next week and [47:02] a half. And I hope people can get out and [47:04] enjoy the nice weather. The last little bit with the [47:06] PED mall to, of course. And so, uh, just thank [47:10] everybody for. Everything they to do every day to make [47:13] our city such a beautiful place. Councillor. Nothing. Meeting adjourned.