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>> a rule.

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>> Welcome to the city of St.

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Petersburg City Council meeting

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and your elected officials our

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mayor Ken Welch district one

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hopefully Curtis. District 2

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Wendy gabbard district 3 Mike

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Harding district 4

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and Council chair Lisette can

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away. District 5. Deborah big

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Sanders. Gina Driscoll.

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Were you given Stu year.

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And and Council vice chair

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reaching Floyd.

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>> City Council meeting clerk

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if we can have a roll call

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please Lloyd for this year

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gabbard air partying here and

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what's your fix and this school

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year a given year.

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>> Our invocation given by 7

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days and Ari of the high.

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Faith St. Petersburg center if

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you can stand and then please

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remain standing for the pledge

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of allegiance good afternoon.

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>> Dow kind Lord. These are

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guys servants who have

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gathered in this meeting have

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turned on to thy Kingdom and

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are in need of Davis still will

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on blessing.

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Dow gone manifest

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and make evident this signs of

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day one MS. Beach have been

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deposited in all the realities

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of life.

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Reveal a non for hold the

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virtues of each town has made

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late and I'm concealed indy's

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human realities.

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The are as plants and I

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I bow and he is as the rain.

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Reef ration on cars these

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plants to grow 3 still.

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We are the ice or Vince free

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ice from the fitters of

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material existence.

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The are ignorant make us twice.

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We are did make has a long

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life. We are in material and

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Dow lost its spirit.

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deprived MAY cause the in 2

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minutes of fame histories.

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We are in needy in the rich and

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bless us from die boundless

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Treasury.

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Resuscitate on us

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give us site

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give us hearing. Family your

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eyes on us with the mysteries

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of life. So that the secrets of

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taking down MAY become reveal

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to oss in this world of

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existence. And confess

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thy oneness

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everybody's still in an eights

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from the every benediction is

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dying. Dow It.

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Now are powerful. Now are the

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giver and out or to ever bounty

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the United States on the air.

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It hits them. One nation.

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I.

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>> Indivisible with liberty and

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justice for all.

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And they'll be seeded thank you

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so much for that view full

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implications.

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Council members we have and the

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agenda before us with the

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addition of I want to continue

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discussion of ballot order for

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municipal referendum. And with

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that additional and the emotion

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for them approval.

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Second have a motion a second

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clerk if you can open the

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machine for voting council

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members please enter your

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votes.

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In present council members,

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including Clark please tell

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announce the vote.

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MADAM Chair, the motion to

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approve the agenda passes

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unanimously.

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Thank you we have a consent

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agenda before us, but we have

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any cards we do not matter.

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Ok and council member driskell.

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>> Thank you I didn't want to

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pull this I just wanted to make

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a couple of comments on.

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Items cb 7, 8, Both of these

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items are regarding ad

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accession of 2 pieces of

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artwork from the cities, public

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art collection. And.

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It was interesting to to read

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through this. And to get a

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refresher on on the cities.

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Procedure regarding the

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accession of of art.

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to what we're doing with these

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but if you look at

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what if you look

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at the process. And you know it

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starts with the public arts

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you know just discussing in

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public arts Commission meeting

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the potential to start that

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process for Dick session which

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includes and evaluation of

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and in looking at the criteria

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for de accession evaluation.

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condition or security of the

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artwork. It cannot be

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reasonably guarantee the

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artwork has been damaged or has

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deteriorated and

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repair is impractical or

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infeasible the artwork has made

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a difference and designer

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workmanship and he's outside

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the warranty period. Endangers

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public safety. The list goes on

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and I can't help you

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I couldn't help but think about

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and Janet at Bowman's bending

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arc sculpture and the

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challenges that we have with

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coming to a solution with the

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various parties too. You know

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move forward with the repair

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and reinstallation of that

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sculpture.

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I certainly hope

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the things don't

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go down Hill to the point where

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something like the accession

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has to be considered for that

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project and I want to encourage

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all of the the parties involved

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to work harder

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towards a solution sooner.

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situation. And and I know that

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this is something the jinan

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Ackerman was proud of

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city was proud of I know that

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many residents want to see you

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back in place and I hope that

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and there will be some

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inspiration to guide those

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conversations forward in a

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positive way. Thank you MADAM

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consent agenda. Councilmembers

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right I'm cb 16 there's a

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scrivener's error one of the

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commissioners names and will

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be corrected by legal

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corresponding resolution so

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they want to make sure that you

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all were where that's where

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there's air before the motion.

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And the motion a second on the

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consent agenda clerk of the

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open meeting

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for boating council members

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please enter your votes.

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I mean that all present council

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appealed a court please tell me

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approve the consent

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agenda passes unanimously.

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Thank you. Next up the move to

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open forum for there any

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speakers form the movie the

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form it get your speakers can

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read the rules, thank you.

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If you wish to address City

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public hearing because I did

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issue items listen the agenda

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please sign up with the clerk.

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Only the individual wishing to

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speak. We signed the open sheet

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only city residents, owners of

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property business owners in the

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city or their employees MAY

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speak. All issues discussed

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under open form must be limited

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to issues related to

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the city as the peace River

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government. If you're speaking

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agenda you MAY only speak once

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opportunity for all citizens to

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address Council each individual

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be given 3 minutes to speak and

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after which the microphone

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would be needed. If you wish to

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You MISS You see raise hand

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feature button app interest are

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9 on your phone at the

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time the agenda item is

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addressed. When it is your turn

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to speak you will

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be unmuted and asked to state

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your name and address at the

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conclusion of your comments

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when you have reached a 3

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minute time limit you will be

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needed. Andres hands will

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be lowered after each agenda

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item regardless of the method

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participation use normal rules

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apply, including the 3 minute

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requirement that any

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presentation materials

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must be submitted in advance at

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the meeting in the rules of

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decorum to fly public comment

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is disrupted. My violation of

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the rules of decorum that

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shares authorized to accept

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public comments. I'll turn it

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loose a clean by email only and

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MADAM Chair we do have some

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speakers and the teaching and

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>> When I call your name please

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go to an open podium state your

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name across Street for the

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record you'll have

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3 minutes to address City

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Council. Goliath Davis and

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Deborah deacon and Carl gone.

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>> Why Davis

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I come today. 2 requests

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recognition for one Henry l

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ashwood on JUNE 29th 2

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2026. The city

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held a piney a ceremony for

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this like firefight

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is integrated St. Petersburg

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Fire Department. They were

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recruited by this ash wood and

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they have been the the legacy 6

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families occupy a

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special place in St. Petersburg

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history. The city is to be

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commended for this special

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recognition. I have a history

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and the store is not complete.

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It is recommended that a photo

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missing him to help and cash

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would be displayed in proximity

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to the commemorative plate

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honing in on a Lego the 6 a

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pioneers MISTER Ashwood

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served as a firefight in the

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United States Air Force retired

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as a sergeant. He joined the

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city of Saint Pete

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is as a person in a corn ada

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and he led the drive to

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integrate the Fire Department

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he recruited mentor and fought

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the forces that tried to

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separate the 5 recruits

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unemployment.

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He was this support system and

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integral part of the movement

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to transform Saint Pete fire

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and rescue Photo and his.

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A brief description of his

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contribution is requested to be

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home in proximity to theirs.

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This request was originally

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submitted on JULY 12. Mares up

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office responded indicating

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that the chief.

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For I would reply. And on JULY

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17. The request was denied by

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chief Watts I got no

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a response from Council, even

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though it was submitted to the

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mayor Council and the fire

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chief. I stand today to

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requests and ask you to support

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this recognition. We're not

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asking for a handout,

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especially consideration.

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Rather we asked that the story

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be completed

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by hanging. The photo and by

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the story up on this issue it

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only would he deserves

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recognition for integrating the

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Saint Pete fire rescue. And we

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ask that his photo be hung in

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proximity to the recruits that

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he brought in to do that.

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Thank you in advance for your

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consideration. And

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I come along because we want

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this

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to be a requests not have a

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stereo and I think it's a

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homeless requests and we expect

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that at some point you guys

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will grant that request.

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As any questions if you have

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any is this is public comment.

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My name is Carl gun.

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This is Debbie shrewdly

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deacon.

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And I'll be speaking on.

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The flock cameras. And de Pere

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is going to speak for me

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because I have a why disability

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and that area.

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>> 4561 cobia drive Southeast.

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Saint Pete,

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the 3 through 75 and minds the

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same.

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Liberty freedom and justice are

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not just

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words written in our

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Constitution. They are

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principles that define what it

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means to live in a free

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country.

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We want our communities to be

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safe. And we want law

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enforcement to have the tools

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necessary to protect us.

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The question is how much of our

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freedom are we willing to give

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up

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for safety. That question

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becomes especially important

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with the growing

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use of flock cameras in St.

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Petersburg these cameras have

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sparked growing concerns about

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privacy

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and government surveillance.

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The 4th Amendment protects

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Americans from

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unreasonable search and

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seizure. One officer seeing

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your car driving down a public

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Street is very different

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from a system that can record

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millions of vehicle, us that

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and have them stored. The

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government cannot necessarily

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avoid the 4th Amendment because

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information is collected by a

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3rd party. The court

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has emphasized that detailed

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long-term records of a person's

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movements can

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reveal the private sees of life

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as was recognized by the

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Supreme Court in

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Carpenter versus United States.

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The 5th Amendment also

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represents an important

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principle. Yet it's me the

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government cannot deprive a

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person of life. Liberty or

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property

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without due process of law.

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The use of flock cameras raise

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an important question about do

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process and accountability who

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can access this information

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why are they searching it and

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how long can it be kept.

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We were told that they were

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going to be deleted. After 30

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days. Now the ceo of flock

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safety has changed it to 7

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days. However just a leading

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these records will not

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permanently remove them.

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They have

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to be incinerated justice

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requires us to recognize both

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sites. Campers.

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Cameras can help solve crimes,

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however, the Constitution was

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not written to protect us.

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Only when the government has

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good intentions. It was written

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to protect us from excessive

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government power.

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So this isn't necessarily a

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question of pro police.

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>> Next 2 speakers or Philip

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Hoffman DR. Perry, g Washington

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please go to an open state your

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name address or cross Street

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for the record you'll have

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3 minutes to address City

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Council. After that.

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My name is Phil Hoffman my

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cross streets are past due to

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Avenue and First Avenue North.

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Look I'm a former attorney I

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work for the da's office in a

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different just district.

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The jurisdiction and I still

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maintain my attorney standing.

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I just want to read from chart

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reverses United States.

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It's pretty clear. It was law

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enforcement conducts a 4th

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Amendment search when it uses

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front warrant to obtain

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detailed cell phone location

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history from third-party

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Tech company here Google

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location history. Individuals

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this is actually the opinion of

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the judge individuals have a

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reasonable expectation of

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privacy in touch records.

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Even if the data covers only a

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limited time period

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and is held by a private

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company. The court emphasized

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that people have a

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constitutionally protected

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privacy interest in records of

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their movements generated

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everyday cell phone use now.

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This is not directly on point

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with flawed because this is not

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cell phone use.

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But certainly it will be

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applied by the Supreme Court

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when the case does reach the

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Supreme Court and it will

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inevitably in the next year or

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2.

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And you can check with your

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city attorney. I believe that

487
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when this does get found to be

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a violation of the 4th.

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All the evidence gathered by

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this to use for prosecutions

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well most likely be thrown out.

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So every case to prosecute

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utilizing. This technology.

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That part of the evidence that

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was utilized proven by the good

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defense attorney will

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most likely be able to mitigate

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all of those prosecutions so

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I do believe this violate.

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It's pretty clear in the

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court's latest ruling.

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And I do state a little bit

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about how this was done.

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This was done back in 2022.

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By I guess a very simple vote.

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From you guys a camper, the

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name of the vote. But

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it was no discussion, no public

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input it was most likely I

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don't have the data and video

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most like to presented by the

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sheriff. This is a good idea

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for the safety of our

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residents. You guys just passed

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the

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$730,000 budget to utilize

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these after that I guess flock

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of your free trial for 25 the

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new increase to 50 passed it on

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to very simple vote. And I

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think that.

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The improper way to have done

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that kind of budget for my

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$11,000 in property tax.

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But I pay every year. You know

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I think I have a vested

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interest in where that money

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goes the should have been some

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kind of public ability to

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comment before this was put in

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place. I do believe these

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should be removed. And I think

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there's a lot of legal

534
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implications that you guys are

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going to face if they're not.

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You fix it you want The next

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person and unit. Commendation

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we do. The next person. Yeah

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and then.

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Well that comes in is Mary that

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in. The state Union address

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last month.

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We for the record the joy of 3

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minutes.

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Good afternoon. My name is Mary

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Pittston I live on mayor Lake

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drive. In Saint Pete. I wanted

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to

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speak about the flock cameras.

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I feel this is an enormous

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violation of privacy.

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I don't believe that America is

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a place

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for this kind of surveillance

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and I think the amount of money

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being spent on this is

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horrendous. I'm

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I believe we could hire more

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police officers and that would

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be a much better use of these

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funds.

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That's really all I have to say

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appreciate your

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listening thank you.

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We believe we're ready for the

566
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if you're ready.

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>> My name down to Prairie g

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wants you to. I'm working right

569
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now want to defend.

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St. Petersburg.

571
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Thank you today.

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To dedicate this award.

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We outdid building.

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I don't know why.

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>> I bid you know my And

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because you would not. 4

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election. I don't mean you

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safe.

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You gotta go.

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You've got to go.

581
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Jag as

582
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last year.

583
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When they arrested me and now.

584
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I'm doing a heavy is.

585
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I bet you look at me not.

586
00:24:22,489 --> 00:24:25,626
And we told you he was an

587
00:24:25,626 --> 00:24:27,626
instant and Jean.

588
00:24:50,284 --> 00:24:53,284
I'm not ready. You got.

589
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,257
I'm not guy you got to go out.

590
00:24:57,257 --> 00:24:59,657
Thank you. DR. Washington

591
00:25:00,527 --> 00:25:03,797
you've got it all. You have got

592
00:25:03,797 --> 00:25:05,797
really out.

593
00:25:06,967 --> 00:25:08,967
I said right.

594
00:25:27,988 --> 00:25:29,988
Taking the negative.

595
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:39,300
>> Next speakers, Amy Pearson.

596
00:25:39,833 --> 00:25:40,166
>> And your name and address

597
00:25:40,166 --> 00:25:42,166
please.

598
00:25:42,802 --> 00:25:43,337
Yes, my name is Amy Parsons

599
00:25:43,337 --> 00:25:45,737
I've been a resident

600
00:25:46,573 --> 00:25:47,400
of the city for 36 years.

601
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,400
i appreciate you

602
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:49,810
having this conversation today,

603
00:25:49,810 --> 00:25:52,210
especially one 66 21th Avenue

604
00:25:52,679 --> 00:25:54,679
Southeast St. Petersburg

605
00:25:55,449 --> 00:25:57,449
Florida.

606
00:25:58,719 --> 00:26:01,855
Thank you I'm sorry I didn't I

607
00:26:01,855 --> 00:26:02,890
MISS The

608
00:26:02,890 --> 00:26:03,490
intro.

609
00:26:03,490 --> 00:26:03,824
>> And if I could have a

610
00:26:03,824 --> 00:26:04,524
little.

611
00:26:04,524 --> 00:26:07,270
A bit of extra time, I'm a bit

612
00:26:07,270 --> 00:26:09,427
nervous. After the last

613
00:26:10,163 --> 00:26:11,998
presentation.

614
00:26:11,998 --> 00:26:12,699
As we can come back to you.

615
00:26:12,699 --> 00:26:13,400
You want us to do that instead

616
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,300
and go to the next speaker and

617
00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:17,671
then we can come back yeah.

618
00:26:17,671 --> 00:26:19,671
Thank you.

619
00:26:20,974 --> 00:26:24,211
There's one zip Laker will take

620
00:26:24,211 --> 00:26:26,213
a zoom speaker. Thank you.

621
00:26:26,213 --> 00:26:29,216
>> Hey Jason s I'm going to

622
00:26:29,216 --> 00:26:31,418
bring you into the meeting

623
00:26:31,418 --> 00:26:32,152
space. Please

624
00:26:32,152 --> 00:26:32,753
state your name and address for

625
00:26:32,753 --> 00:26:33,954
the record please unmute

626
00:26:33,954 --> 00:26:36,954
yourself also when you'll have

627
00:26:37,224 --> 00:26:39,624
3 minutes to address City

628
00:26:40,261 --> 00:26:41,295
Council.

629
00:26:41,295 --> 00:26:42,696
Jason can you hear us.

630
00:26:42,696 --> 00:26:45,696
Can hear you. Good afternoon

631
00:26:46,990 --> 00:26:47,735
Jason Scott, 4636 redfish Lane.

632
00:26:47,735 --> 00:26:51,400
I just want to thank Council.

633
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:51,438
Today for all your diligent

634
00:26:51,438 --> 00:26:52,206
work in having

635
00:26:52,206 --> 00:26:53,540
important conversations on the

636
00:26:53,540 --> 00:26:56,540
issues. I wanted to highlight

637
00:26:56,610 --> 00:26:59,546
something that's going on at

638
00:26:59,546 --> 00:27:01,946
the Public Service Commission

639
00:27:02,716 --> 00:27:03,384
on the state level. Right now

640
00:27:03,384 --> 00:27:04,684
you can and she is pushing a

641
00:27:04,684 --> 00:27:06,553
petition on large load.

642
00:27:06,553 --> 00:27:07,754
Customers which is the

643
00:27:07,754 --> 00:27:10,154
dissenters which would not

644
00:27:10,958 --> 00:27:12,559
protect. Residents and

645
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:14,959
customers from paying too

646
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:18,230
build the infrastructure for

647
00:27:19,133 --> 00:27:21,133
those data centers.

648
00:27:22,402 --> 00:27:23,304
Also want to mention.

649
00:27:23,304 --> 00:27:24,371
From the

650
00:27:24,371 --> 00:27:26,771
other speakers talking about

651
00:27:27,641 --> 00:27:29,643
flock. I do find it concerning

652
00:27:29,643 --> 00:27:32,430
that we are paying.

653
00:27:32,913 --> 00:27:33,580
What was it $700,000. For these

654
00:27:33,580 --> 00:27:35,580
flock cameras.

655
00:27:36,816 --> 00:27:39,653
Meanwhile we had a lot of

656
00:27:39,653 --> 00:27:41,555
pushback over

657
00:27:41,555 --> 00:27:44,391
the study for the feasibility

658
00:27:44,391 --> 00:27:47,828
so at the feasibility study for

659
00:27:47,828 --> 00:27:50,228
600 and $30,000. So I'd advise

660
00:27:50,931 --> 00:27:52,931
you. 2.

661
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:56,100
But Cameron agreement.

662
00:28:05,712 --> 00:28:06,346
>> Meet Parsons. Please go

663
00:28:06,346 --> 00:28:07,470
through an open putting up

664
00:28:07,470 --> 00:28:09,984
state your name address across

665
00:28:09,984 --> 00:28:12,286
Street you'll have 3 minutes to

666
00:28:12,286 --> 00:28:14,540
address City Council.

667
00:28:14,540 --> 00:28:14,788
>> Thank you my name is Amy

668
00:28:14,788 --> 00:28:16,657
Parsons I love that one 66 21th

669
00:28:16,657 --> 00:28:19,570
Avenue Southeast in St.

670
00:28:19,926 --> 00:28:21,929
Petersburg here great state of

671
00:28:21,929 --> 00:28:23,929
Florida.

672
00:28:25,232 --> 00:28:26,733
I'd like to address the flock

673
00:28:26,733 --> 00:28:28,902
cameras and I appreciate that

674
00:28:28,902 --> 00:28:29,803
court ever brought that up

675
00:28:29,803 --> 00:28:33,730
thank you. Allowed us to speak

676
00:28:33,730 --> 00:28:36,109
about today and went to that to

677
00:28:36,109 --> 00:28:38,109
the.

678
00:28:41,815 --> 00:28:42,382
Engage with the other At the

679
00:28:42,382 --> 00:28:44,382
library

680
00:28:45,218 --> 00:28:45,886
I and and all that so what I'd

681
00:28:45,886 --> 00:28:46,587
like to remind everyone you

682
00:28:46,587 --> 00:28:47,287
probably already know but it's

683
00:28:47,287 --> 00:28:50,557
a good reminder that all these

684
00:28:50,557 --> 00:28:53,930
things are connected. The flock

685
00:28:53,930 --> 00:28:55,930
cameras.

686
00:28:56,129 --> 00:28:56,930
For me.

687
00:28:56,930 --> 00:28:57,631
Erin here if you can turn off

688
00:28:57,631 --> 00:28:57,998
your phones please and put it

689
00:28:57,998 --> 00:28:59,998
on silent.

690
00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:03,570
The flock cameras are you know

691
00:29:03,570 --> 00:29:07,170
data and data centers love that

692
00:29:08,642 --> 00:29:09,276
that that flock camera Dan a.

693
00:29:09,276 --> 00:29:09,909
It can be used for so much

694
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:10,643
information and and Stuart

695
00:29:10,643 --> 00:29:13,147
forever, you know, I mean let's

696
00:29:13,147 --> 00:29:14,214
be real this information isn't

697
00:29:14,214 --> 00:29:17,214
going to be debated ever.

698
00:29:17,484 --> 00:29:19,190
The once they get it they love

699
00:29:19,190 --> 00:29:19,719
it and

700
00:29:19,719 --> 00:29:21,870
you know big money buys it so.

701
00:29:21,870 --> 00:29:22,956
Things changed things have a

702
00:29:22,956 --> 00:29:26,260
way of changing later on so

703
00:29:26,260 --> 00:29:26,693
we're not voting for what's on

704
00:29:26,693 --> 00:29:27,427
the necessarily on the table

705
00:29:27,427 --> 00:29:30,297
right now we're voting for what

706
00:29:30,297 --> 00:29:31,164
we have to the understand is

707
00:29:31,164 --> 00:29:33,567
our future of privacy and

708
00:29:33,567 --> 00:29:36,402
there's plenty of cameras all

709
00:29:36,402 --> 00:29:37,270
over the city, you know private

710
00:29:37,270 --> 00:29:40,270
and commercial cameras are all

711
00:29:40,540 --> 00:29:43,540
over. We don't necessarily need

712
00:29:43,744 --> 00:29:45,744
more.

713
00:29:45,912 --> 00:29:48,448
You know I I recently

714
00:29:48,448 --> 00:29:49,549
had my health insurance changed

715
00:29:49,549 --> 00:29:52,886
and I asked my health insurance

716
00:29:52,886 --> 00:29:53,687
company could they delete all

717
00:29:53,687 --> 00:29:56,222
my data because I I

718
00:29:56,222 --> 00:29:56,857
really don't think it needs to

719
00:29:56,857 --> 00:29:59,826
be with the old Goethe new

720
00:29:59,826 --> 00:30:00,594
company and I just like to

721
00:30:00,594 --> 00:30:03,594
delete it all. They what

722
00:30:03,664 --> 00:30:06,664
that doesn't work that way

723
00:30:06,934 --> 00:30:07,433
ma'am it doesn't work that way

724
00:30:07,433 --> 00:30:08,350
you know o well so

725
00:30:08,350 --> 00:30:08,902
I said I want to talk to

726
00:30:08,902 --> 00:30:11,638
somebody else and you know I to

727
00:30:11,638 --> 00:30:13,506
I talked to somebody else in

728
00:30:13,506 --> 00:30:16,543
and they just said we can't do

729
00:30:16,543 --> 00:30:17,310
that so. That's interesting

730
00:30:17,310 --> 00:30:17,845
that when you try to actually

731
00:30:17,845 --> 00:30:19,845
literally delete the

732
00:30:20,814 --> 00:30:23,214
information it just doesn't

733
00:30:23,851 --> 00:30:25,851
happen.

734
00:30:29,589 --> 00:30:31,910
I'm not for funding a data

735
00:30:31,910 --> 00:30:32,920
center within the city or the

736
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,961
county. So really the bigger

737
00:30:33,961 --> 00:30:36,897
picture. It are these data

738
00:30:36,897 --> 00:30:37,864
centers that are going to eat

739
00:30:37,864 --> 00:30:40,634
up a ton of energy. So you know

740
00:30:40,634 --> 00:30:41,702
the waters another question but

741
00:30:41,702 --> 00:30:44,102
the energy itself is

742
00:30:44,971 --> 00:30:45,305
fascinating. And if you look at

743
00:30:45,305 --> 00:30:47,305
there's

744
00:30:48,375 --> 00:30:51,244
plenty of information online to

745
00:30:51,244 --> 00:30:51,978
see data centers that are so

746
00:30:51,978 --> 00:30:52,445
annoying within any area I mean

747
00:30:52,445 --> 00:30:53,413
small or large.

748
00:30:53,413 --> 00:30:56,413
They're very loud they're like

749
00:30:56,683 --> 00:30:57,917
mom, you know who wants that in

750
00:30:57,917 --> 00:30:58,585
their

751
00:30:58,585 --> 00:30:59,152
neighborhood all the time I

752
00:30:59,152 --> 00:30:59,720
mean give me a break.

753
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:00,454
Who wants the the the

754
00:31:00,454 --> 00:31:03,900
disruption from the building of

755
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:05,659
it you know it disrupts the

756
00:31:05,659 --> 00:31:08,590
water. We're already have

757
00:31:08,528 --> 00:31:09,696
plenty of issues that we need

758
00:31:09,696 --> 00:31:10,697
to address if the structure and

759
00:31:10,697 --> 00:31:12,332
I very much appreciate that the

760
00:31:12,332 --> 00:31:12,999
amount of time and effort that

761
00:31:12,999 --> 00:31:15,501
the city is putting into our

762
00:31:15,501 --> 00:31:16,103
our water because it's

763
00:31:16,103 --> 00:31:16,703
something that you don't

764
00:31:16,703 --> 00:31:17,304
necessarily see take for

765
00:31:17,304 --> 00:31:19,773
granted. And I very much

766
00:31:19,773 --> 00:31:22,773
appreciate the job in doing

767
00:31:22,910 --> 00:31:24,910
Thank you MS.

768
00:31:30,283 --> 00:31:33,453
>> It no more speakers we close

769
00:31:33,453 --> 00:31:34,121
up and form and we go to the

770
00:31:34,121 --> 00:31:34,821
next item on our agenda is I

771
00:31:34,821 --> 00:31:37,691
won. MADAM Chair, if you could

772
00:31:37,691 --> 00:31:40,761
take a report and come back to

773
00:31:40,761 --> 00:31:42,761
I one.

774
00:31:50,170 --> 00:31:52,706
I chair members of Council.

775
00:31:52,706 --> 00:31:55,976
I am here to resume our

776
00:31:55,976 --> 00:31:56,543
discussion of the ballot design

777
00:31:56,543 --> 00:31:58,543
for the 2026.

778
00:31:58,612 --> 00:32:00,612
Municipal general election.

779
00:32:01,348 --> 00:32:04,484
On Tue. Afternoon I had a

780
00:32:04,484 --> 00:32:05,251
conversation with the

781
00:32:05,251 --> 00:32:07,651
supervisor of election and

782
00:32:07,788 --> 00:32:08,488
supervisors general counsel and

783
00:32:08,488 --> 00:32:10,657
has discussed in the memo that

784
00:32:10,657 --> 00:32:11,525
I provided yesterday the

785
00:32:11,525 --> 00:32:13,694
majority of the ballot design

786
00:32:13,694 --> 00:32:15,229
is set the city's 5 referendum

787
00:32:15,229 --> 00:32:15,829
questions will be at the

788
00:32:15,829 --> 00:32:18,229
conclusion of the ballot

789
00:32:18,532 --> 00:32:19,599
following the candidate races

790
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:20,501
and the 3 state constitutional

791
00:32:20,501 --> 00:32:23,336
amendments. As I understand it.

792
00:32:23,336 --> 00:32:24,104
The first city question will be

793
00:32:24,104 --> 00:32:27,400
the last question on the first

794
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,141
card and the remaining 4

795
00:32:28,141 --> 00:32:29,142
questions will be on the front

796
00:32:29,142 --> 00:32:30,777
of the second card.

797
00:32:30,777 --> 00:32:31,377
Additionally the supervisor and

798
00:32:31,377 --> 00:32:34,281
for me that because the

799
00:32:34,281 --> 00:32:35,248
division has not yet issued an

800
00:32:35,248 --> 00:32:37,248
opinion to

801
00:32:37,450 --> 00:32:38,840
resolve the difference of

802
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,840
interpretation between the

803
00:32:40,621 --> 00:32:41,221
supervisor in the city as to

804
00:32:41,221 --> 00:32:44,221
the ballot order for the

805
00:32:44,358 --> 00:32:44,925
municipal questions. The

806
00:32:44,925 --> 00:32:45,558
supervisor is open to

807
00:32:45,558 --> 00:32:47,958
using the city's original

808
00:32:48,294 --> 00:32:49,263
order. The copy of the e-mail

809
00:32:49,263 --> 00:32:50,364
from the general counsel was

810
00:32:50,364 --> 00:32:51,231
attached to your packet with

811
00:32:51,231 --> 00:32:52,199
that in mind I prepared a

812
00:32:52,199 --> 00:32:54,200
resolution that would revert

813
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,368
back to the original order

814
00:32:55,368 --> 00:32:57,337
adopted by City Council on JULY

815
00:32:57,337 --> 00:32:59,339
23th, if you would like to take

816
00:32:59,339 --> 00:33:00,841
that action you can adopt a new

817
00:33:00,841 --> 00:33:01,841
resolution or if you'd like to

818
00:33:01,841 --> 00:33:04,841
stick with the alternate order

819
00:33:05,111 --> 00:33:08,711
adopted on Aug. 6 no action is

820
00:33:10,983 --> 00:33:11,551
needed with that I'm happy to

821
00:33:11,551 --> 00:33:12,151
answer any questions.

822
00:33:12,151 --> 00:33:12,852
Thank you so your update

823
00:33:12,852 --> 00:33:13,587
basically is we have them back

824
00:33:13,587 --> 00:33:13,986
to the default we wanted in the

825
00:33:13,986 --> 00:33:14,655
first place.

826
00:33:14,655 --> 00:33:16,589
At the supervisor has agreed

827
00:33:16,589 --> 00:33:19,726
that in the absence of a

828
00:33:19,726 --> 00:33:21,726
opinion from the

829
00:33:23,863 --> 00:33:24,264
division she is willing to use

830
00:33:24,264 --> 00:33:24,931
that water.

831
00:33:24,931 --> 00:33:25,598
Councilmember guard us thank

832
00:33:25,598 --> 00:33:26,266
you MADAM Chair. Brett thank

833
00:33:26,266 --> 00:33:27,340
you for the update and that

834
00:33:27,340 --> 00:33:27,768
being said we had a discussion

835
00:33:27,768 --> 00:33:28,502
about this and I think so he is

836
00:33:28,502 --> 00:33:30,837
willing to go with the original

837
00:33:30,837 --> 00:33:31,537
proposal that certainly the one

838
00:33:31,537 --> 00:33:32,672
I'd rather see I'd rather see

839
00:33:32,672 --> 00:33:34,307
the go bond up there at the

840
00:33:34,307 --> 00:33:37,610
beginning so I I all move

841
00:33:37,610 --> 00:33:39,812
approval on the proposed

842
00:33:39,812 --> 00:33:40,347
resolution presented 7.

843
00:33:40,347 --> 00:33:40,980
The motion a second.

844
00:33:40,980 --> 00:33:43,549
That's the other any other

845
00:33:43,549 --> 00:33:44,283
requests to speak, we're

846
00:33:44,283 --> 00:33:44,952
keeping an open meeting

847
00:33:44,952 --> 00:33:45,552
for boating council members

848
00:33:45,552 --> 00:33:47,952
please enter your votes.

849
00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:50,290
In that out for the council

850
00:33:50,290 --> 00:33:51,240
members

851
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:51,325
voted Cook these telling us the

852
00:33:51,325 --> 00:33:53,325
vote.

853
00:33:53,961 --> 00:33:55,228
MADAM Chair, the motion to

854
00:33:55,228 --> 00:33:55,762
approve

855
00:33:55,762 --> 00:33:56,163
agenda item I passes

856
00:33:56,163 --> 00:33:56,830
unanimously.

857
00:33:56,830 --> 00:33:57,530
Thank you thank you. Brooke.

858
00:33:57,530 --> 00:33:58,264
Thank you Brett for your work

859
00:33:58,264 --> 00:34:00,660
and for local here on vacation,

860
00:34:00,660 --> 00:34:03,236
we don't see here on vacation,

861
00:34:03,236 --> 00:34:05,236
welcome. Thank

862
00:34:07,473 --> 00:34:08,775
you for coming and for that.

863
00:34:08,775 --> 00:34:09,776
Next up we have f 3 it's a

864
00:34:09,776 --> 00:34:10,843
report I pulled this real quick

865
00:34:10,843 --> 00:34:14,180
for a good news. We've had a

866
00:34:14,180 --> 00:34:15,681
couple of residents that have

867
00:34:15,681 --> 00:34:16,350
issues getting tax blocks

868
00:34:16,350 --> 00:34:18,318
and I the reason I wanted to

869
00:34:18,318 --> 00:34:18,952
just pull it real quickly is

870
00:34:18,952 --> 00:34:19,619
because it affects certain

871
00:34:19,619 --> 00:34:22,455
residents and I want to make

872
00:34:22,455 --> 00:34:25,492
sure we did put it out there as

873
00:34:25,492 --> 00:34:27,492
to

874
00:34:27,527 --> 00:34:27,861
what we're doing for the hacks

875
00:34:27,861 --> 00:34:28,561
blocks.

876
00:34:28,561 --> 00:34:29,195
So Marshall Hamptons from our

877
00:34:29,195 --> 00:34:29,896
payment traffic operations

878
00:34:29,896 --> 00:34:33,200
director. So we are putting in

879
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,601
an order for 5,000 square feet

880
00:34:34,601 --> 00:34:35,602
or 5,005 square feet of hex

881
00:34:35,602 --> 00:34:38,200
bar hexagon block favors.

882
00:34:38,838 --> 00:34:39,639
Comes a little bit over $18,000

883
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:41,410
and for us

884
00:34:41,410 --> 00:34:44,110
to sell back to people who need

885
00:34:44,110 --> 00:34:44,778
it. It's not really only have a

886
00:34:44,778 --> 00:34:46,213
few 100 and stock right now

887
00:34:46,213 --> 00:34:47,513
which is the original ones,

888
00:34:47,513 --> 00:34:49,913
we're buying different pavers

889
00:34:50,783 --> 00:34:51,885
and having people pay for that

890
00:34:51,885 --> 00:34:52,619
with a mark of a 25%

891
00:34:52,619 --> 00:34:53,253
which is kind of administrative

892
00:34:53,253 --> 00:34:55,789
costs for us to handle it

893
00:34:55,789 --> 00:34:57,691
bringing in costs for paver bp

894
00:34:57,691 --> 00:34:58,658
between

895
00:34:58,658 --> 00:35:00,193
5 to $10. And that's really

896
00:35:00,193 --> 00:35:00,893
because it we will count as

897
00:35:00,893 --> 00:35:03,697
when they come in we expect a

898
00:35:03,697 --> 00:35:04,364
little bit of a loss because we

899
00:35:04,364 --> 00:35:07,233
have some brutal come in we

900
00:35:07,233 --> 00:35:08,835
expect some loss but per the

901
00:35:08,835 --> 00:35:09,502
bloc's we

902
00:35:09,502 --> 00:35:10,300
get in the divided up by the

903
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:10,670
money to put into.

904
00:35:10,670 --> 00:35:11,404
Appreciate the work that you

905
00:35:11,404 --> 00:35:12,672
all have done on this because I

906
00:35:12,672 --> 00:35:13,373
know it's very difficult for

907
00:35:13,373 --> 00:35:14,975
people to get their papers on

908
00:35:14,975 --> 00:35:18,244
their own searches. You know a

909
00:35:18,244 --> 00:35:18,845
small amount and this will take

910
00:35:18,845 --> 00:35:21,800
care of that issue. For

911
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,816
Councilmember Curtis, thank you

912
00:35:22,816 --> 00:35:24,351
MADAM Chair, marshal. Thanks

913
00:35:24,351 --> 00:35:26,751
for the quick presentation

914
00:35:27,620 --> 00:35:29,288
chair thanks for pulling this.

915
00:35:29,288 --> 00:35:30,230
I do think you know,

916
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:30,657
listen it's one of these things

917
00:35:30,657 --> 00:35:31,358
we talked about this in a

918
00:35:31,358 --> 00:35:32,459
committee or committee of the

919
00:35:32,459 --> 00:35:35,862
whole I think and you know is a

920
00:35:35,862 --> 00:35:37,597
pretty robust discussion and so

921
00:35:37,597 --> 00:35:38,232
you know appreciate the

922
00:35:38,232 --> 00:35:39,232
quick move to try to help

923
00:35:39,232 --> 00:35:40,233
residents. I will just repeat

924
00:35:40,233 --> 00:35:43,503
what I said in that committee

925
00:35:43,503 --> 00:35:43,936
meeting that I that I hope we

926
00:35:43,936 --> 00:35:44,637
get to a place

927
00:35:44,637 --> 00:35:45,305
where we're transitioning away

928
00:35:45,305 --> 00:35:48,308
from these and not to them I

929
00:35:48,308 --> 00:35:50,760
want to I want to make sure

930
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:50,743
that the residents

931
00:35:50,743 --> 00:35:52,379
that have it it's it's there

932
00:35:52,379 --> 00:35:53,790
and it's safe. Just but just

933
00:35:53,790 --> 00:35:55,582
from a 88 perspective, I mean

934
00:35:55,582 --> 00:35:56,282
we've had this conversation I

935
00:35:56,282 --> 00:35:57,160
just wanted to say it out loud

936
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:57,350
but I really think we should be

937
00:35:57,350 --> 00:35:59,350
moving.

938
00:35:59,553 --> 00:36:00,687
From the us, but I think this

939
00:36:00,687 --> 00:36:01,388
is a fix and I

940
00:36:01,388 --> 00:36:02,655
appreciate you go in and do it

941
00:36:02,655 --> 00:36:03,389
quickly and and I know the team

942
00:36:03,389 --> 00:36:06,259
was ready to do it this morning

943
00:36:06,259 --> 00:36:08,395
when I saw him so very

944
00:36:08,395 --> 00:36:08,728
appreciative move approval.

945
00:36:08,728 --> 00:36:09,462
Second.

946
00:36:09,462 --> 00:36:12,980
Motion second clerk and you can

947
00:36:12,980 --> 00:36:12,566
open the machine for voting

948
00:36:12,566 --> 00:36:14,566
council members

949
00:36:15,768 --> 00:36:18,768
please enter your votes being

950
00:36:19,380 --> 00:36:20,540
present council members

951
00:36:20,540 --> 00:36:20,841
voted clerk please telling us

952
00:36:20,841 --> 00:36:21,474
vote.

953
00:36:21,474 --> 00:36:22,175
MADAM Chair, the motion to

954
00:36:22,175 --> 00:36:23,900
approve agenda item f 3 passes

955
00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:24,644
unanimously with councilmember

956
00:36:24,644 --> 00:36:25,612
Floyd being absent thank u next

957
00:36:25,612 --> 00:36:26,279
up we have f one this is a St.

958
00:36:26,279 --> 00:36:27,246
Petersburg Police Department

959
00:36:27,246 --> 00:36:28,148
quarterly report and we have

960
00:36:28,148 --> 00:36:30,148
chief Holloway.

961
00:36:31,384 --> 00:36:32,619
We're here good afternoon

962
00:36:32,619 --> 00:36:34,619
chief.

963
00:36:35,888 --> 00:36:38,288
Good afternoon chair council

964
00:36:38,925 --> 00:36:40,925
members.

965
00:36:43,297 --> 00:36:45,697
>> And representing the second

966
00:36:46,132 --> 00:36:46,766
quarterly report for the year

967
00:36:46,766 --> 00:36:49,569
of it. Both going to cover

968
00:36:49,569 --> 00:36:50,570
the month of APRIL MAY and JUNE

969
00:36:50,570 --> 00:36:53,840
overall crime in his city is

970
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,840
down by 3%. The five-year trend

971
00:36:57,143 --> 00:36:58,111
crime is down by 15%.

972
00:36:58,111 --> 00:36:59,846
Side and a pickup

973
00:36:59,846 --> 00:37:03,115
also always say one is too

974
00:37:03,115 --> 00:37:03,783
many. But like to make sure to

975
00:37:03,783 --> 00:37:05,318
Council everybody out there

976
00:37:05,318 --> 00:37:08,521
is where of the past 3 years.

977
00:37:08,521 --> 00:37:09,222
Our Police Department has

978
00:37:09,222 --> 00:37:09,823
closed not every homicide case

979
00:37:09,823 --> 00:37:11,558
with the arrests are an

980
00:37:11,558 --> 00:37:13,326
exception. I can put it up

981
00:37:13,326 --> 00:37:14,260
against any city in the nation

982
00:37:14,260 --> 00:37:15,494
to see that we every homicide

983
00:37:15,494 --> 00:37:17,564
we have brought closure to a

984
00:37:17,564 --> 00:37:20,990
family. So I just want to say

985
00:37:20,990 --> 00:37:21,735
that mess do too the leadership

986
00:37:21,735 --> 00:37:22,368
of chief of also and is

987
00:37:22,368 --> 00:37:23,270
detective Annette Bureau.

988
00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:26,439
So during this period, we have

989
00:37:26,439 --> 00:37:27,774
5 homicide little as 5

990
00:37:27,774 --> 00:37:28,608
homicide.

991
00:37:28,608 --> 00:37:31,878
One was a domestic to argue it

992
00:37:31,878 --> 00:37:35,148
was a robbery was a robbery and

993
00:37:35,148 --> 00:37:36,820
drug-related.

994
00:37:36,820 --> 00:37:37,717
Our homicides for this

995
00:37:37,717 --> 00:37:41,121
quarter is equal to last year.

996
00:37:41,121 --> 00:37:44,491
But again we are down 5 year

997
00:37:44,491 --> 00:37:46,891
trend were down by 36%.

998
00:37:47,627 --> 00:37:50,270
Thanks to our alcohol

999
00:37:50,130 --> 00:37:50,830
tobacco far we have that Nabil

1000
00:37:50,830 --> 00:37:53,666
wishing that we talked about.

1001
00:37:53,666 --> 00:37:54,333
Do you see that number 88 does

1002
00:37:54,333 --> 00:37:57,333
mean we hit 80 shootings in

1003
00:37:57,403 --> 00:37:58,104
our city that means we were

1004
00:37:58,104 --> 00:37:58,805
able to connect showcasing to

1005
00:37:58,805 --> 00:37:59,806
other crime to come in 2 or 3

1006
00:37:59,806 --> 00:38:03,760
years ago, but thanks to having

1007
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:03,643
his machine in our city now

1008
00:38:03,643 --> 00:38:04,311
we're not waiting 3 or

1009
00:38:04,311 --> 00:38:05,177
4 months down the road we're

1010
00:38:05,177 --> 00:38:06,146
getting within sometime within

1011
00:38:06,146 --> 00:38:09,549
a week sometimes in 2 were able

1012
00:38:09,549 --> 00:38:12,185
to say this gun was used at

1013
00:38:12,185 --> 00:38:12,919
this shooting or

1014
00:38:12,919 --> 00:38:15,121
the showcase the really to this

1015
00:38:15,121 --> 00:38:18,391
shooting so being able to link

1016
00:38:18,391 --> 00:38:18,858
these case together but with

1017
00:38:18,858 --> 00:38:19,559
quicker

1018
00:38:19,559 --> 00:38:20,259
then in the past and we could

1019
00:38:20,259 --> 00:38:20,794
see a trend that's out there.

1020
00:38:20,794 --> 00:38:21,494
So again without our

1021
00:38:21,494 --> 00:38:24,300
partnership with atf, we would

1022
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:27,167
not be able to add this

1023
00:38:27,167 --> 00:38:27,834
information. This quickly.

1024
00:38:27,834 --> 00:38:30,234
As COUNCILMAN Governor would

1025
00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:32,605
make sure we keep track that is

1026
00:38:32,605 --> 00:38:34,605
we're doing better.

1027
00:38:35,342 --> 00:38:38,342
This quarter were down of 35

1028
00:38:38,611 --> 00:38:39,412
does from vehicle, but it's

1029
00:38:39,412 --> 00:38:41,480
still too many.

1030
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,116
We want to remind everybody to

1031
00:38:44,116 --> 00:38:44,785
please be responsible gun

1032
00:38:44,785 --> 00:38:45,519
owners take your guns out of

1033
00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:46,186
your car or not so you can have

1034
00:38:46,186 --> 00:38:48,688
a weapon but take it out of

1035
00:38:48,688 --> 00:38:50,323
your car please you see is

1036
00:38:50,323 --> 00:38:51,324
still through city lot.

1037
00:38:51,324 --> 00:38:54,324
Office which you're going to

1038
00:38:54,594 --> 00:38:55,828
see for this quarter you're

1039
00:38:55,828 --> 00:38:56,429
going to see a

1040
00:38:56,429 --> 00:38:57,563
slightly uptick in some

1041
00:38:57,563 --> 00:38:59,866
categories but we normally see

1042
00:38:59,866 --> 00:39:02,468
that trend this time of year

1043
00:39:02,468 --> 00:39:04,236
kids are out of school. So we

1044
00:39:04,236 --> 00:39:07,507
have to deal with that. So you

1045
00:39:07,507 --> 00:39:10,143
sit up tick there. But now over

1046
00:39:10,143 --> 00:39:10,810
our trends.

1047
00:39:10,810 --> 00:39:13,746
So for robberies. Last court

1048
00:39:13,746 --> 00:39:16,746
last 4 reported was up by 18%.

1049
00:39:17,150 --> 00:39:20,419
Now it's down to 7%. Our 5 year

1050
00:39:20,419 --> 00:39:21,187
trend. Robberies are down by

1051
00:39:21,187 --> 00:39:23,187
12%. Burgers

1052
00:39:24,457 --> 00:39:25,240
were equal to last quarter.

1053
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:26,859
In a 5 year

1054
00:39:26,859 --> 00:39:28,628
trend down by 24%. Don't the

1055
00:39:28,628 --> 00:39:29,328
continued to a great job of

1056
00:39:29,328 --> 00:39:32,198
people are locking their cars

1057
00:39:32,198 --> 00:39:34,634
and taking the key fobs out of

1058
00:39:34,634 --> 00:39:37,340
car down by 7% 5 year

1059
00:39:38,370 --> 00:39:41,370
trend down by 41%. Now with

1060
00:39:41,208 --> 00:39:41,608
that uptick in

1061
00:39:41,608 --> 00:39:42,309
kron you're

1062
00:39:42,309 --> 00:39:43,175
also going to see an uptick in

1063
00:39:43,175 --> 00:39:44,710
arrests because the men and

1064
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:45,578
women are out there making

1065
00:39:45,578 --> 00:39:48,848
arrests of these cases due to

1066
00:39:48,848 --> 00:39:52,118
the technology that we have and

1067
00:39:52,118 --> 00:39:54,518
people working with us.

1068
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:57,757
Traffic stops you see equal to

1069
00:39:57,757 --> 00:39:58,491
last quarter just about we're

1070
00:39:58,491 --> 00:40:00,126
accounts be made aware of it we

1071
00:40:00,126 --> 00:40:03,960
started this quarter would be

1072
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:03,796
back inforcement we're doing

1073
00:40:03,796 --> 00:40:05,310
education and we're also doing

1074
00:40:05,310 --> 00:40:06,799
enforcement throughout the city

1075
00:40:06,799 --> 00:40:08,768
we're letting people be made

1076
00:40:08,768 --> 00:40:09,402
aware of about you, but we've

1077
00:40:09,402 --> 00:40:10,737
gone to school we want to

1078
00:40:10,737 --> 00:40:11,838
different places throughout the

1079
00:40:11,838 --> 00:40:15,108
city just to educate people let

1080
00:40:15,108 --> 00:40:16,442
them know these bikes are very

1081
00:40:16,442 --> 00:40:18,442
dangerous.

1082
00:40:19,713 --> 00:40:23,182
Our home team as you can see is

1083
00:40:23,182 --> 00:40:24,117
a trend with down discourse

1084
00:40:24,117 --> 00:40:24,817
we're very happy about that

1085
00:40:24,817 --> 00:40:27,787
that means or kids are coming

1086
00:40:27,787 --> 00:40:28,354
off of the program. Our Patty

1087
00:40:28,354 --> 00:40:30,323
continue to do a great

1088
00:40:30,323 --> 00:40:30,990
job vacancies are still making

1089
00:40:30,990 --> 00:40:32,580
contact with several of our

1090
00:40:32,580 --> 00:40:34,360
unhoused individuals in our

1091
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,360
city in giving them the

1092
00:40:37,631 --> 00:40:37,998
assistance that they need.

1093
00:40:37,998 --> 00:40:38,631
And again.

1094
00:40:38,631 --> 00:40:40,399
It has moved want to show.

1095
00:40:40,399 --> 00:40:41,100
We're always contact the being

1096
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:43,136
taken place and as you can see

1097
00:40:43,136 --> 00:40:45,536
they're taking place throughout

1098
00:40:46,372 --> 00:40:47,741
the city not just in downtown.

1099
00:40:47,741 --> 00:40:48,441
But

1100
00:40:48,441 --> 00:40:49,242
these a path to mow says will

1101
00:40:49,242 --> 00:40:49,976
go out and make contact we're

1102
00:40:49,976 --> 00:40:52,912
the unhoused individual are and

1103
00:40:52,912 --> 00:40:56,820
try to get them the help that

1104
00:40:56,820 --> 00:40:57,383
they need. Park walk

1105
00:40:57,383 --> 00:40:58,117
and talk the streaming up with

1106
00:40:58,117 --> 00:41:00,953
which we like to see also years

1107
00:41:00,953 --> 00:41:01,588
for people out of work that

1108
00:41:01,588 --> 00:41:03,823
means is when our weak we

1109
00:41:03,823 --> 00:41:04,390
expect also to got a card and

1110
00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:06,920
meet the people in the

1111
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:06,826
community not looking for an

1112
00:41:06,826 --> 00:41:09,662
arrest. But you do some soul to

1113
00:41:09,662 --> 00:41:11,397
the community so they know they

1114
00:41:11,397 --> 00:41:14,397
also that are patrolling their

1115
00:41:14,634 --> 00:41:15,201
neighborhoods. Our legal our

1116
00:41:15,201 --> 00:41:15,901
program it went up by

1117
00:41:15,901 --> 00:41:16,702
14 per soon doesn't get a lot

1118
00:41:16,702 --> 00:41:18,871
of people that were You have a

1119
00:41:18,871 --> 00:41:19,639
ring cameras or any type of

1120
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:22,639
cameras at their homes or

1121
00:41:22,708 --> 00:41:24,911
businesses. So if something

1122
00:41:24,911 --> 00:41:25,611
happens in that area, we know

1123
00:41:25,611 --> 00:41:27,213
we get a starting point we'll

1124
00:41:27,213 --> 00:41:28,414
knock on that door say can we

1125
00:41:28,414 --> 00:41:29,115
look at that video. The video

1126
00:41:29,115 --> 00:41:29,849
at your home or your business

1127
00:41:29,849 --> 00:41:32,518
captured the incident before it

1128
00:41:32,518 --> 00:41:36,118
happened in doing Amen to that.

1129
00:41:36,322 --> 00:41:38,791
Use of force as you can

1130
00:41:38,791 --> 00:41:41,791
see what slightly up this

1131
00:41:42,195 --> 00:41:42,761
quarter, but again also related

1132
00:41:42,761 --> 00:41:44,300
to arrests. I like to

1133
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:46,332
think of councilmember the fix

1134
00:41:46,332 --> 00:41:49,302
we talk show and people were

1135
00:41:49,302 --> 00:41:50,200
amazed that we report this to

1136
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,938
City Council about our use of

1137
00:41:51,938 --> 00:41:52,638
force as it every quarter City

1138
00:41:52,638 --> 00:41:53,873
Council made aware of it they

1139
00:41:53,873 --> 00:41:56,275
can ask questions about the use

1140
00:41:56,275 --> 00:41:58,378
of force that we used

1141
00:41:58,378 --> 00:42:00,778
throughout the city are

1142
00:42:00,780 --> 00:42:01,381
complaints. None of them are

1143
00:42:01,381 --> 00:42:01,981
related to use of force.

1144
00:42:01,981 --> 00:42:04,784
The one you see from the

1145
00:42:04,784 --> 00:42:07,119
citizen a contact with an

1146
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:07,820
officer that professional

1147
00:42:07,820 --> 00:42:10,690
so we looked into that we did

1148
00:42:10,690 --> 00:42:11,391
have one use of force this

1149
00:42:11,391 --> 00:42:13,391
quarter.

1150
00:42:14,660 --> 00:42:15,562
But that was the do a sergeant

1151
00:42:15,562 --> 00:42:16,262
here, he

1152
00:42:16,262 --> 00:42:18,397
looked at the video he saw we

1153
00:42:18,397 --> 00:42:19,366
thought they also used too much

1154
00:42:19,366 --> 00:42:20,366
force I went through the

1155
00:42:20,366 --> 00:42:22,568
command staff we had a command

1156
00:42:22,568 --> 00:42:24,737
staff hearing yesterday it was

1157
00:42:24,737 --> 00:42:25,438
unfounded we also do use the

1158
00:42:25,438 --> 00:42:27,574
right amount of force. But it

1159
00:42:27,574 --> 00:42:28,274
just shows you the check and

1160
00:42:28,274 --> 00:42:30,543
balances to get sort of looked

1161
00:42:30,543 --> 00:42:31,177
at it and went to chain of

1162
00:42:31,177 --> 00:42:31,811
command. They went to also

1163
00:42:31,811 --> 00:42:32,612
professional standards for

1164
00:42:32,612 --> 00:42:33,312
myself and the 3 assistant

1165
00:42:33,312 --> 00:42:36,182
chief to look at to make sure

1166
00:42:36,182 --> 00:42:37,550
that we're in compliance with

1167
00:42:37,550 --> 00:42:39,950
the use of force.

1168
00:42:40,587 --> 00:42:43,856
Our call program is still I

1169
00:42:43,856 --> 00:42:44,156
will suit best in the world.

1170
00:42:44,156 --> 00:42:44,890
We do

1171
00:42:44,890 --> 00:42:47,526
have a season are called us and

1172
00:42:47,526 --> 00:42:47,960
asked us about this. During

1173
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:48,661
this period of

1174
00:42:48,661 --> 00:42:50,863
time again over a 1000 contact

1175
00:42:50,863 --> 00:42:54,134
while to bring attention to in

1176
00:42:54,134 --> 00:42:54,900
one of the long for contact us,

1177
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:57,470
96% of these calls are without

1178
00:42:57,470 --> 00:42:58,204
law enforcement. The tree

1179
00:42:58,204 --> 00:42:58,871
audits done by the 911 operator

1180
00:42:58,871 --> 00:43:00,406
want to give him credit for

1181
00:43:00,406 --> 00:43:01,608
that look at it to figure out

1182
00:43:01,608 --> 00:43:04,210
we don't need to send also

1183
00:43:04,210 --> 00:43:07,279
uniform that we need to so one

1184
00:43:07,279 --> 00:43:07,914
of our liaison there they go

1185
00:43:07,914 --> 00:43:08,548
there in the assist these

1186
00:43:08,548 --> 00:43:09,215
people are going through a

1187
00:43:09,215 --> 00:43:09,949
mental crisis and that last

1188
00:43:09,949 --> 00:43:13,860
line of the most important line

1189
00:43:13,860 --> 00:43:15,388
again want to thank the City

1190
00:43:15,388 --> 00:43:17,388
Council 0 incidents,

1191
00:43:18,658 --> 00:43:19,250
0 our liaison are making right

1192
00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:20,193
contacting

1193
00:43:20,193 --> 00:43:20,960
in these people right to make

1194
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,362
sure that they need. For

1195
00:43:23,362 --> 00:43:24,130
together is probably what got

1196
00:43:24,130 --> 00:43:27,200
us started on the mayor was

1197
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,670
voted on by the community and

1198
00:43:28,670 --> 00:43:28,701
we're still moving forward this

1199
00:43:28,701 --> 00:43:29,702
or first with the Suncoast

1200
00:43:29,702 --> 00:43:31,370
those are the kids that are in

1201
00:43:31,370 --> 00:43:31,738
foster care with kind of forget

1202
00:43:31,738 --> 00:43:34,400
about those kids we still give

1203
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,709
those kids a connection that

1204
00:43:36,709 --> 00:43:37,576
they need is working well.

1205
00:43:37,576 --> 00:43:38,244
Gulf Coast, Jewish family

1206
00:43:38,244 --> 00:43:41,214
services. This is a program

1207
00:43:41,214 --> 00:43:43,916
again that we took it to the

1208
00:43:43,916 --> 00:43:45,885
next level when a kid Kim

1209
00:43:45,885 --> 00:43:47,987
is a non violent felony.

1210
00:43:47,987 --> 00:43:50,924
He or she didn't get a coach

1211
00:43:50,924 --> 00:43:53,126
they call it. Coach will walk

1212
00:43:53,126 --> 00:43:53,793
them through it. If you look at

1213
00:43:53,793 --> 00:43:56,193
that number 60 almost 64% of

1214
00:43:56,195 --> 00:43:56,863
the kids to go through this

1215
00:43:56,863 --> 00:43:58,310
program are not re offending

1216
00:43:58,310 --> 00:43:58,731
that's what we want. We want to

1217
00:43:58,731 --> 00:44:01,601
get these kids to draw so this

1218
00:44:01,601 --> 00:44:04,601
program is working is helping.

1219
00:44:07,573 --> 00:44:08,307
Are cooler for you.

1220
00:44:08,307 --> 00:44:10,943
Some of the cooler for you

1221
00:44:10,943 --> 00:44:11,677
still do see of why is a great

1222
00:44:11,677 --> 00:44:14,881
program and what it is a lot of

1223
00:44:14,881 --> 00:44:15,248
peers Keita for things that are

1224
00:44:15,248 --> 00:44:15,949
out there

1225
00:44:15,949 --> 00:44:19,180
so what's the of why does you

1226
00:44:19,180 --> 00:44:19,518
need helmets, big helmets for

1227
00:44:19,518 --> 00:44:20,219
the kids, whatever

1228
00:44:20,219 --> 00:44:20,820
equipment they need to give it

1229
00:44:20,820 --> 00:44:24,560
to him and then the next

1230
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:24,657
program, not every kid was to

1231
00:44:24,657 --> 00:44:25,357
be an athlete so we have

1232
00:44:25,357 --> 00:44:28,270
the arts program. So we cover

1233
00:44:28,270 --> 00:44:28,461
that too. So this program

1234
00:44:28,461 --> 00:44:29,128
really covers

1235
00:44:29,128 --> 00:44:31,528
anything and everything that

1236
00:44:32,310 --> 00:44:32,699
the kids out there he also

1237
00:44:32,699 --> 00:44:34,800
thank the Council for voting

1238
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,467
on what this Police Department

1239
00:44:35,467 --> 00:44:36,335
get this money. And the last

1240
00:44:36,335 --> 00:44:39,605
thing Paoli gust of you know we

1241
00:44:39,605 --> 00:44:39,938
see police out the Lenox we

1242
00:44:39,938 --> 00:44:40,640
kind of

1243
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,307
like change that now is please

1244
00:44:41,307 --> 00:44:44,143
academic because we do a lot

1245
00:44:44,143 --> 00:44:47,460
there we want these kids to

1246
00:44:47,460 --> 00:44:48,148
want a lot.

1247
00:44:48,148 --> 00:44:51,183
And the last thing that would

1248
00:44:51,183 --> 00:44:52,185
be very proud of before me

1249
00:44:52,185 --> 00:44:54,821
before I came back in 1985.

1250
00:44:54,821 --> 00:44:56,821
St. Petersburg Police

1251
00:44:57,223 --> 00:44:58,191
Department started the National

1252
00:44:58,191 --> 00:45:00,591
accreditation. We are the

1253
00:45:01,627 --> 00:45:02,895
credit municipal agency in the

1254
00:45:02,895 --> 00:45:04,895
world. We have

1255
00:45:06,165 --> 00:45:06,565
so that means every cycle we go

1256
00:45:06,565 --> 00:45:07,266
through and

1257
00:45:07,266 --> 00:45:09,902
people coming from the outside

1258
00:45:09,902 --> 00:45:11,770
to make sure we fall we fall

1259
00:45:11,770 --> 00:45:12,405
the policy and procedures that

1260
00:45:12,405 --> 00:45:15,608
are set for we also dual

1261
00:45:15,608 --> 00:45:16,208
certify what that means is

1262
00:45:16,208 --> 00:45:16,843
we're not only national

1263
00:45:16,843 --> 00:45:19,243
certified were also state

1264
00:45:20,179 --> 00:45:20,813
certified. And that says a lot

1265
00:45:20,813 --> 00:45:21,480
about our men and women at

1266
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,650
work force and it says a lot

1267
00:45:24,650 --> 00:45:25,852
about what we do. With that

1268
00:45:25,852 --> 00:45:26,285
open it for any questions.

1269
00:45:26,285 --> 00:45:28,540
Thank you too.

1270
00:45:28,540 --> 00:45:28,788
Councilmember Gavin, thank you

1271
00:45:28,788 --> 00:45:31,657
MADAM Chair and thank you chief

1272
00:45:31,657 --> 00:45:32,825
for a while for such as thank

1273
00:45:32,825 --> 00:45:33,759
you

1274
00:45:33,759 --> 00:45:35,759
period.

1275
00:45:36,610 --> 00:45:37,930
And that's really most of my

1276
00:45:37,930 --> 00:45:38,598
comments today so I first of

1277
00:45:38,598 --> 00:45:41,501
all want to thank you chief

1278
00:45:41,501 --> 00:45:42,735
kubasik I don't know if he's

1279
00:45:42,735 --> 00:45:45,735
here I can't see over

1280
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:49,508
on that side areas for the

1281
00:45:49,508 --> 00:45:50,609
swift action last Fri. With

1282
00:45:50,609 --> 00:45:51,177
the threat at Northeast high.

1283
00:45:51,177 --> 00:45:53,577
And as council member

1284
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,314
representing residents who send

1285
00:45:55,314 --> 00:45:58,684
their kids there, but also as a

1286
00:45:58,684 --> 00:46:00,987
parent to see the swift action

1287
00:46:00,987 --> 00:46:01,587
to see the follow-up other

1288
00:46:01,587 --> 00:46:02,288
responsiveness very very

1289
00:46:02,288 --> 00:46:05,324
grateful. And so I just wanted

1290
00:46:05,324 --> 00:46:05,792
to say that publicly on behalf

1291
00:46:05,792 --> 00:46:07,760
of parents

1292
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:08,862
from Northeast high. Very

1293
00:46:08,862 --> 00:46:12,131
important to know that our kids

1294
00:46:12,131 --> 00:46:12,798
are safe and how seriously you

1295
00:46:12,798 --> 00:46:13,899
took

1296
00:46:13,899 --> 00:46:15,634
that threat so thank you for

1297
00:46:15,634 --> 00:46:18,905
that. Also want to thank you

1298
00:46:18,905 --> 00:46:21,440
for the e-bike safety campaign

1299
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,541
so can you talk just a

1300
00:46:22,541 --> 00:46:23,309
little bit more about like.

1301
00:46:23,309 --> 00:46:26,579
Will we continue to do I know

1302
00:46:26,579 --> 00:46:27,246
that there was inforcement

1303
00:46:27,246 --> 00:46:27,947
again

1304
00:46:27,947 --> 00:46:30,817
Northeast high. I saw you all

1305
00:46:30,817 --> 00:46:32,618
out there will you continue to

1306
00:46:32,618 --> 00:46:33,285
do these enforcement around

1307
00:46:33,285 --> 00:46:36,155
the schools because I think

1308
00:46:36,155 --> 00:46:36,655
what we see a lot his kids

1309
00:46:36,655 --> 00:46:38,655
using their bikes

1310
00:46:39,625 --> 00:46:40,260
to get to school but with so

1311
00:46:40,260 --> 00:46:40,893
much congestion around the

1312
00:46:40,893 --> 00:46:41,927
schools and their you know

1313
00:46:41,927 --> 00:46:42,896
zipping in and out and things

1314
00:46:42,896 --> 00:46:46,165
like that it is very dangerous

1315
00:46:46,165 --> 00:46:48,670
so can you talk a little bit

1316
00:46:48,670 --> 00:46:48,768
about what

1317
00:46:48,768 --> 00:46:49,368
that you bike safety campaign

1318
00:46:49,368 --> 00:46:50,690
look like going forward.

1319
00:46:50,690 --> 00:46:50,769
So thanks to our traffic team

1320
00:46:50,769 --> 00:46:53,405
they are going to do that work

1321
00:46:53,405 --> 00:46:54,730
and what s Rosen will be

1322
00:46:54,730 --> 00:46:56,943
picking a school pie once a

1323
00:46:56,943 --> 00:46:58,100
month and going to a good just

1324
00:46:58,100 --> 00:46:58,711
educating kids and let them

1325
00:46:58,711 --> 00:46:59,378
know and let the parents know

1326
00:46:59,378 --> 00:47:00,946
one love thanks us that she

1327
00:47:00,946 --> 00:47:04,217
told her son not to take the

1328
00:47:04,217 --> 00:47:05,751
bike to school and Utica school

1329
00:47:05,751 --> 00:47:06,352
in.

1330
00:47:06,352 --> 00:47:07,860
And yes. So we're going

1331
00:47:07,860 --> 00:47:07,653
continue to do that but not

1332
00:47:07,653 --> 00:47:09,154
only just schools but

1333
00:47:09,154 --> 00:47:10,589
throughout the communities

1334
00:47:10,589 --> 00:47:13,860
because we want to continue to

1335
00:47:13,860 --> 00:47:15,828
educate our prayers and our

1336
00:47:15,828 --> 00:47:16,328
kids that

1337
00:47:16,328 --> 00:47:17,129
this is not a toy.

1338
00:47:17,129 --> 00:47:18,564
Well I can tell you is the mom

1339
00:47:18,564 --> 00:47:19,665
of a teenager, the word is on

1340
00:47:19,665 --> 00:47:22,935
street that you are out there

1341
00:47:22,935 --> 00:47:23,402
and we all know it so I

1342
00:47:23,402 --> 00:47:25,402
appreciate that

1343
00:47:25,872 --> 00:47:29,175
so thank you and then the last

1344
00:47:29,175 --> 00:47:29,575
thing just a shout out to major

1345
00:47:29,575 --> 00:47:31,575
Patterson

1346
00:47:32,845 --> 00:47:33,445
I called on a Sat. Night past

1347
00:47:33,445 --> 00:47:34,414
you

1348
00:47:34,414 --> 00:47:37,149
know needing some resources for

1349
00:47:37,149 --> 00:47:37,850
someone and jumped right on it

1350
00:47:37,850 --> 00:47:40,453
it was late at night on a Sat.

1351
00:47:40,453 --> 00:47:41,120
and I just cannot say enough

1352
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,520
about the responsiveness of

1353
00:47:43,989 --> 00:47:44,623
your team. The way that you all

1354
00:47:44,623 --> 00:47:45,558
handle things the

1355
00:47:45,558 --> 00:47:48,558
way that you work together.

1356
00:47:48,827 --> 00:47:49,628
To make sure that we are

1357
00:47:49,628 --> 00:47:50,296
delivering services to our

1358
00:47:50,296 --> 00:47:50,663
residents wherever they MAY

1359
00:47:50,663 --> 00:47:52,598
need them.

1360
00:47:52,598 --> 00:47:53,332
And to keep our community safe.

1361
00:47:53,332 --> 00:47:54,433
I just really appreciate you so

1362
00:47:54,433 --> 00:47:55,134
thank you and thank you to the

1363
00:47:55,134 --> 00:47:58,400
entire team. Thank you ma'am,

1364
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,400
thank you, MADAM Chair, thank

1365
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,400
you

1366
00:48:03,476 --> 00:48:04,176
council member driskell.

1367
00:48:04,176 --> 00:48:04,877
Thank you and thank you chief

1368
00:48:04,877 --> 00:48:05,577
or the report is always great

1369
00:48:05,577 --> 00:48:06,311
to see. And the progress that

1370
00:48:06,311 --> 00:48:07,880
you're making in some areas and

1371
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,280
they continued excellence and

1372
00:48:11,183 --> 00:48:13,152
others and you really do make

1373
00:48:13,152 --> 00:48:15,152
us proud.

1374
00:48:16,555 --> 00:48:19,825
They come in regarding and I

1375
00:48:19,825 --> 00:48:20,693
was wondering if you've

1376
00:48:20,693 --> 00:48:21,894
noticed any differences or

1377
00:48:21,894 --> 00:48:24,530
if the police officers had

1378
00:48:24,530 --> 00:48:27,530
noticed any differences over at

1379
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,769
Saint Vincent de Paul and in

1380
00:48:29,769 --> 00:48:32,169
the last few weeks

1381
00:48:32,905 --> 00:48:33,572
Spoke very clearly and

1382
00:48:33,572 --> 00:48:35,775
passionately about the need

1383
00:48:35,775 --> 00:48:36,442
for some changes over there.

1384
00:48:36,442 --> 00:48:38,944
You are maybe chief divisive

1385
00:48:38,944 --> 00:48:40,813
wants to talk about it if

1386
00:48:40,813 --> 00:48:43,813
there's been a difference in

1387
00:48:44,830 --> 00:48:46,483
the cooperation with it

1388
00:48:46,886 --> 00:48:47,519
conditions in

1389
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:48,153
surrounding the facility.

1390
00:48:48,153 --> 00:48:50,220
The conditions are getting

1391
00:48:50,220 --> 00:48:53,220
better. MS. Foster team have

1392
00:48:53,293 --> 00:48:54,727
done a great job of cleaning up

1393
00:48:54,727 --> 00:48:55,428
the area we have a does

1394
00:48:55,428 --> 00:48:56,128
some operations and their foot

1395
00:48:56,128 --> 00:48:56,829
what people can been complain

1396
00:48:56,829 --> 00:48:57,529
about you're going to continue

1397
00:48:57,529 --> 00:49:00,199
so you can continue to see our

1398
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:01,934
downtown people patrol that

1399
00:49:01,934 --> 00:49:05,171
area and he also that night.

1400
00:49:05,171 --> 00:49:05,871
We don't see as many people on

1401
00:49:05,871 --> 00:49:06,572
the sidewalks anymore so

1402
00:49:06,572 --> 00:49:07,840
we are making that connection.

1403
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,141
But I just going to be a

1404
00:49:09,141 --> 00:49:10,143
day-to-day thing that each day

1405
00:49:10,143 --> 00:49:13,790
we're going to get better at it

1406
00:49:13,790 --> 00:49:13,946
when we see some issues that

1407
00:49:13,946 --> 00:49:14,847
will be able to work with other

1408
00:49:14,847 --> 00:49:15,514
divisions of departments as you

1409
00:49:15,514 --> 00:49:18,384
know we can continue to make

1410
00:49:18,384 --> 00:49:21,453
that area much better what it

1411
00:49:21,453 --> 00:49:23,453
is.

1412
00:49:24,256 --> 00:49:24,924
>> And I know that

1413
00:49:24,924 --> 00:49:27,324
administrator Foster and her

1414
00:49:27,793 --> 00:49:28,940
team have been talking with the

1415
00:49:28,940 --> 00:49:30,940
folks

1416
00:49:30,829 --> 00:49:31,397
and there you are in leadership

1417
00:49:31,397 --> 00:49:31,997
there. And I was I was

1418
00:49:31,997 --> 00:49:34,533
wondering if pd has been

1419
00:49:34,533 --> 00:49:38,133
talking to them as well because

1420
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,900
then and there are some issues

1421
00:49:43,900 --> 00:49:43,709
clear communication.

1422
00:49:43,709 --> 00:49:44,376
Major Bush is in charge of the

1423
00:49:44,376 --> 00:49:44,944
team she is in communication

1424
00:49:44,944 --> 00:49:45,811
with them. This artist

1425
00:49:45,811 --> 00:49:46,478
uncharted path team there's

1426
00:49:46,478 --> 00:49:48,478
always ongoing communication

1427
00:49:49,348 --> 00:49:52,518
they stop by their new. We want

1428
00:49:52,518 --> 00:49:54,918
to make sure we

1429
00:49:55,888 --> 00:49:56,255
work together we are working

1430
00:49:56,255 --> 00:49:56,989
together.

1431
00:49:56,989 --> 00:49:57,689
And that's good and speaking of

1432
00:49:57,689 --> 00:49:58,424
major base. I can't say enough

1433
00:49:58,424 --> 00:49:59,250
about her leadership. She takes

1434
00:49:59,250 --> 00:50:02,361
on a lot as a major for

1435
00:50:02,361 --> 00:50:03,529
downtown for past and for so

1436
00:50:03,529 --> 00:50:05,929
much more and she's

1437
00:50:06,132 --> 00:50:07,900
just an incredible asset to our

1438
00:50:07,900 --> 00:50:08,634
city and so I'm I'm grateful

1439
00:50:08,634 --> 00:50:11,570
for her and grateful to you for

1440
00:50:11,570 --> 00:50:14,570
putting her in that leadership

1441
00:50:14,841 --> 00:50:15,674
position. Thank you ma'am

1442
00:50:15,674 --> 00:50:16,342
all right, thank you, thank

1443
00:50:16,342 --> 00:50:17,760
you, thank you, MADAM Chair.

1444
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:17,710
Thank you councilmember Kevin's

1445
00:50:17,710 --> 00:50:18,611
thank you very much, MADAM

1446
00:50:18,611 --> 00:50:19,278
Chair, thank you so much chief

1447
00:50:19,278 --> 00:50:22,181
for being here today I don't

1448
00:50:22,181 --> 00:50:23,490
think you all get enough credit

1449
00:50:23,490 --> 00:50:25,918
for the hard work that you put

1450
00:50:25,918 --> 00:50:28,454
in so on behalf of district 7 i

1451
00:50:28,454 --> 00:50:31,723
just want to say thank you to

1452
00:50:31,723 --> 00:50:32,325
all of our men and women in

1453
00:50:32,325 --> 00:50:33,250
uniform, we we see what

1454
00:50:33,250 --> 00:50:34,260
you do and your labors not in

1455
00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:37,296
vain. We appreciate it want to

1456
00:50:37,296 --> 00:50:38,960
add on to what COUNCILMAN Ever

1457
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:39,650
said I want to thank you for

1458
00:50:39,650 --> 00:50:40,365
your quick response a good

1459
00:50:40,365 --> 00:50:43,636
time. Last week we know there

1460
00:50:43,636 --> 00:50:44,690
was a situation that occurred

1461
00:50:44,690 --> 00:50:45,710
over there so

1462
00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:47,471
likewise cp police responded

1463
00:50:48,374 --> 00:50:49,475
quickly. The swiftly and safely

1464
00:50:49,475 --> 00:50:50,109
so thank you so much for

1465
00:50:50,109 --> 00:50:52,745
keeping our kids safe and

1466
00:50:52,745 --> 00:50:53,479
speaking of kids safety.

1467
00:50:53,479 --> 00:50:55,681
I saw the social media campaign

1468
00:50:55,681 --> 00:50:57,160
with the bike safety. I love

1469
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,418
it. You all are listening and I

1470
00:50:59,418 --> 00:51:01,587
appreciate that thank you so

1471
00:51:01,587 --> 00:51:04,857
much can you talk a little bit

1472
00:51:04,857 --> 00:51:05,524
chief about e-bike enforcement

1473
00:51:05,524 --> 00:51:07,493
specifically

1474
00:51:07,493 --> 00:51:08,160
along the Pinellas County

1475
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,261
trail. I don't know if your

1476
00:51:09,261 --> 00:51:12,970
traffic officers are out there

1477
00:51:12,970 --> 00:51:12,765
enforcing that right now if so

1478
00:51:12,765 --> 00:51:15,534
what does that look like how

1479
00:51:15,534 --> 00:51:17,136
has the response look.

1480
00:51:17,136 --> 00:51:17,836
And are

1481
00:51:17,836 --> 00:51:18,137
we educating those bikers out

1482
00:51:18,137 --> 00:51:19,972
there.

1483
00:51:19,972 --> 00:51:20,640
I can see you have the traffic

1484
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:21,607
enforcement in the community

1485
00:51:21,607 --> 00:51:22,341
service officers, they're doing

1486
00:51:22,341 --> 00:51:23,576
the same thing they're going to

1487
00:51:23,576 --> 00:51:26,412
the spots that they're hearing

1488
00:51:26,412 --> 00:51:27,112
about that are going out there

1489
00:51:27,112 --> 00:51:29,949
doing education first and then

1490
00:51:29,949 --> 00:51:30,583
we fall would inforcement so

1491
00:51:30,583 --> 00:51:31,250
whether it's on a troll is

1492
00:51:31,250 --> 00:51:33,886
throughout the city is where

1493
00:51:33,886 --> 00:51:34,754
these problems are and what are

1494
00:51:34,754 --> 00:51:35,421
we what resources do we need to

1495
00:51:35,421 --> 00:51:38,491
bring toward that so I would

1496
00:51:38,491 --> 00:51:39,570
tell you they are out there on

1497
00:51:39,570 --> 00:51:39,692
the trail if you need

1498
00:51:39,692 --> 00:51:42,920
some numbers icann finals

1499
00:51:42,940 --> 00:51:43,620
numbers for you but I know

1500
00:51:43,620 --> 00:51:46,332
they've had a plan in place

1501
00:51:46,332 --> 00:51:47,766
we're going like that we we've

1502
00:51:47,766 --> 00:51:48,467
done the

1503
00:51:48,467 --> 00:51:49,134
school that's what our kids we

1504
00:51:49,134 --> 00:51:50,169
want to take our as council

1505
00:51:50,169 --> 00:51:53,238
members always to take our baby

1506
00:51:53,238 --> 00:51:54,540
so we would go out to them for

1507
00:51:54,540 --> 00:51:56,940
student Worthen go throughout

1508
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:58,210
the city and continue to

1509
00:51:58,210 --> 00:51:58,844
address the educate these kids

1510
00:51:58,844 --> 00:52:00,112
and apparently they're not

1511
00:52:00,112 --> 00:52:03,382
aware of how fast a motorbike

1512
00:52:03,382 --> 00:52:07,553
or side hustle can go. I agree.

1513
00:52:07,553 --> 00:52:09,553
Their problem scenes.

1514
00:52:10,289 --> 00:52:10,990
You see them there causing real

1515
00:52:10,990 --> 00:52:11,657
crashes real injuries and real

1516
00:52:11,657 --> 00:52:14,427
lives are being lost so I'm

1517
00:52:14,427 --> 00:52:15,861
happy to hear that we are being

1518
00:52:15,861 --> 00:52:16,395
proactive there so I would love

1519
00:52:16,395 --> 00:52:18,795
to see those numbers

1520
00:52:18,931 --> 00:52:20,660
specifically asking because I

1521
00:52:20,660 --> 00:52:20,766
don't know there could

1522
00:52:20,766 --> 00:52:21,567
be correct me if I'm wrong but

1523
00:52:21,567 --> 00:52:24,803
I don't believe there is is

1524
00:52:24,803 --> 00:52:26,505
there signage along the trail

1525
00:52:26,505 --> 00:52:27,139
enforcing speed

1526
00:52:27,139 --> 00:52:27,439
limits for things like the

1527
00:52:27,439 --> 00:52:28,140
bikes.

1528
00:52:28,140 --> 00:52:31,376
I don't know that social media

1529
00:52:31,376 --> 00:52:32,945
check would do this. Yes, those

1530
00:52:32,945 --> 00:52:33,645
are new service

1531
00:52:33,645 --> 00:52:34,379
also are trafficked people now

1532
00:52:34,379 --> 00:52:34,947
get an answer before the end of

1533
00:52:34,947 --> 00:52:35,681
the week, thank you I

1534
00:52:35,681 --> 00:52:37,617
appreciate that the models talk

1535
00:52:37,617 --> 00:52:40,617
teaching protect this the best

1536
00:52:40,653 --> 00:52:42,653
way to

1537
00:52:43,755 --> 00:52:45,958
do this appreciate you all.

1538
00:52:45,958 --> 00:52:46,559
We

1539
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:47,126
Safety and the creative

1540
00:52:47,126 --> 00:52:49,270
solutions that Police

1541
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:50,129
Department has implemented over

1542
00:52:50,129 --> 00:52:50,762
the years to respond to some of

1543
00:52:50,762 --> 00:52:53,666
the changing needs of our

1544
00:52:53,666 --> 00:52:56,660
community everything from call

1545
00:52:56,768 --> 00:52:58,871
to path. We brought up

1546
00:52:58,871 --> 00:52:59,438
in the 4 in the past.

1547
00:52:59,438 --> 00:53:02,241
How we can respond to

1548
00:53:02,241 --> 00:53:02,608
specifically the dream

1549
00:53:02,608 --> 00:53:03,275
defenders

1550
00:53:03,275 --> 00:53:04,676
request for those community

1551
00:53:04,676 --> 00:53:07,676
navigators and I brought this

1552
00:53:07,947 --> 00:53:11,830
up you before chief finding out

1553
00:53:11,830 --> 00:53:12,217
how we can

1554
00:53:12,217 --> 00:53:12,551
sort of tap into.

1555
00:53:12,551 --> 00:53:13,218
>> The.

1556
00:53:13,218 --> 00:53:13,952
The young adult population,

1557
00:53:13,952 --> 00:53:16,352
specifically and utilize them

1558
00:53:16,789 --> 00:53:18,900
when it comes to addressing to

1559
00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:20,490
these nonviolent crimes that

1560
00:53:20,726 --> 00:53:21,394
are occurring using them to

1561
00:53:21,394 --> 00:53:23,394
target specific demographics

1562
00:53:24,296 --> 00:53:25,131
specifically their peers have

1563
00:53:25,131 --> 00:53:25,764
we had any

1564
00:53:25,764 --> 00:53:27,764
further conversation about

1565
00:53:27,833 --> 00:53:30,233
restructuring the department to

1566
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:32,438
include more community

1567
00:53:32,438 --> 00:53:33,872
Navigator specifically.

1568
00:53:33,872 --> 00:53:35,707
Our young people.

1569
00:53:35,707 --> 00:53:36,942
And again I think the contract

1570
00:53:36,942 --> 00:53:37,576
recall is coming up where you

1571
00:53:37,576 --> 00:53:38,343
already voted on it so it

1572
00:53:38,343 --> 00:53:39,345
doesn't a conversation we would

1573
00:53:39,345 --> 00:53:42,615
have to have with that group we

1574
00:53:42,615 --> 00:53:44,249
want to make sure we bring on

1575
00:53:44,249 --> 00:53:46,249
people that

1576
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,187
no what they're doing because

1577
00:53:48,187 --> 00:53:49,722
that's what you about police

1578
00:53:49,722 --> 00:53:50,456
also we do a lot of those were

1579
00:53:50,456 --> 00:53:51,156
things that kellock outside our

1580
00:53:51,156 --> 00:53:53,325
scope so we brought in experts

1581
00:53:53,325 --> 00:53:53,893
to handle that. So we'll

1582
00:53:53,893 --> 00:53:54,593
continue to have that

1583
00:53:54,593 --> 00:53:56,295
conversation to see how we can

1584
00:53:56,295 --> 00:53:57,263
bring in more navigated that

1585
00:53:57,263 --> 00:54:00,665
they can train that they can

1586
00:54:00,665 --> 00:54:03,502
talk to you. So it continues to

1587
00:54:03,502 --> 00:54:04,236
young adults up

1588
00:54:04,236 --> 00:54:04,570
how do we continue to make them

1589
00:54:04,570 --> 00:54:05,237
better.

1590
00:54:05,237 --> 00:54:05,838
Well that is encouraging and

1591
00:54:05,838 --> 00:54:07,600
I'm hopeful that we can

1592
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,406
continue this dialogue. Thank

1593
00:54:10,409 --> 00:54:12,578
you so much, thank you chair.

1594
00:54:12,578 --> 00:54:13,579
Thank you as a member fixing.

1595
00:54:13,579 --> 00:54:15,579
Thank you.

1596
00:54:16,848 --> 00:54:17,282
Well chief you Rhonda but I

1597
00:54:17,282 --> 00:54:17,916
want to again

1598
00:54:17,916 --> 00:54:20,886
thank you for the report.

1599
00:54:20,886 --> 00:54:23,522
But more importantly I want to

1600
00:54:23,522 --> 00:54:24,256
thank you for

1601
00:54:24,256 --> 00:54:26,656
always being accessible between

1602
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:27,893
you and assistant chief of ice

1603
00:54:27,893 --> 00:54:29,893
Ivins.

1604
00:54:30,429 --> 00:54:31,960
I mean you have always been

1605
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,990
there to answer the calls to

1606
00:54:34,990 --> 00:54:37,436
follow up into the tank, so I

1607
00:54:37,436 --> 00:54:38,637
concur with my colleagues in

1608
00:54:38,637 --> 00:54:40,637
complementing in commending

1609
00:54:41,873 --> 00:54:43,242
you I so that my colleagues.

1610
00:54:43,242 --> 00:54:43,976
No way I'm going we had a

1611
00:54:43,976 --> 00:54:46,376
conversation called the police

1612
00:54:46,712 --> 00:54:47,713
and the people and I picked up

1613
00:54:47,713 --> 00:54:48,347
the phone and I contacted chief

1614
00:54:48,347 --> 00:54:51,283
Holloway can you be there.

1615
00:54:51,283 --> 00:54:53,619
And when I tell you that was

1616
00:54:53,619 --> 00:54:54,286
one of the most fulfilling

1617
00:54:54,286 --> 00:54:56,286
community conversations that

1618
00:54:57,423 --> 00:54:58,424
we've participated for very

1619
00:54:58,424 --> 00:54:59,910
long time.

1620
00:54:59,910 --> 00:55:01,927
But what I walked away with

1621
00:55:01,927 --> 00:55:04,663
from that conversation is that

1622
00:55:04,663 --> 00:55:05,298
the city of St. Petersburg has

1623
00:55:05,298 --> 00:55:06,298
been a game changer. Long

1624
00:55:06,298 --> 00:55:07,265
before we knew we were a game

1625
00:55:07,265 --> 00:55:09,665
changer. I mean the

1626
00:55:10,536 --> 00:55:11,103
opportunities that we provide

1627
00:55:11,103 --> 00:55:13,103
the programs

1628
00:55:13,739 --> 00:55:14,373
that we have the services from

1629
00:55:14,373 --> 00:55:16,773
Cole. They talked about

1630
00:55:17,809 --> 00:55:20,209
civilian police review board

1631
00:55:21,180 --> 00:55:21,813
we've been doing that for 20

1632
00:55:21,813 --> 00:55:24,213
30 use. They talked about

1633
00:55:24,683 --> 00:55:25,550
getting a monies from some of

1634
00:55:25,550 --> 00:55:28,530
the the drug bust in but we've

1635
00:55:28,530 --> 00:55:28,920
been given for for 2 grants

1636
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,920
putting money back in the

1637
00:55:32,191 --> 00:55:33,910
community for how many years.

1638
00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:35,910
So

1639
00:55:35,828 --> 00:55:36,696
that that conversation alone

1640
00:55:36,696 --> 00:55:40,320
was to Testament has to have

1641
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,320
the city of St. Petersburg

1642
00:55:43,302 --> 00:55:43,669
takes its public safety.

1643
00:55:43,669 --> 00:55:45,669
Commitment

1644
00:55:46,338 --> 00:55:49,742
very highly in so again, thank

1645
00:55:49,742 --> 00:55:51,376
you for being there was myself

1646
00:55:51,376 --> 00:55:52,444
the interim police

1647
00:55:52,444 --> 00:55:53,645
chief Owens from Tampa I

1648
00:55:53,645 --> 00:55:56,916
believe end of an attorney and

1649
00:55:56,916 --> 00:55:59,316
a couple other organizations

1650
00:55:59,451 --> 00:56:00,520
that would there

1651
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,621
but if nothing else that

1652
00:56:02,621 --> 00:56:04,256
conversation showcased what we

1653
00:56:04,256 --> 00:56:04,957
have here in the city of St.

1654
00:56:04,957 --> 00:56:08,193
Petersburg so I thank you for

1655
00:56:08,193 --> 00:56:11,596
that I thank you again for your

1656
00:56:11,596 --> 00:56:13,996
leadership and your officers

1657
00:56:14,866 --> 00:56:15,535
who I always on call I mean if

1658
00:56:15,535 --> 00:56:17,269
if if they allow me to can

1659
00:56:17,269 --> 00:56:18,270
only and is you know one of the

1660
00:56:18,270 --> 00:56:20,670
7 other. Council doing when

1661
00:56:21,373 --> 00:56:22,400
they pick up those calls.

1662
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,710
But I just want to publicly

1663
00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:25,477
thank you for that and also

1664
00:56:25,477 --> 00:56:28,477
your offer to continue those

1665
00:56:28,780 --> 00:56:29,982
conversations too. Our other

1666
00:56:29,982 --> 00:56:30,682
districts here in the city

1667
00:56:30,682 --> 00:56:33,520
of Saint Petersburg's that we

1668
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:33,752
can have that conversation

1669
00:56:33,752 --> 00:56:34,419
moving beyond conversation to

1670
00:56:34,419 --> 00:56:36,819
commitment to getting things

1671
00:56:37,590 --> 00:56:39,391
done so again thank you chief,

1672
00:56:39,391 --> 00:56:40,250
I appreciate you so much

1673
00:56:40,250 --> 00:56:40,725
for offering that and also

1674
00:56:40,725 --> 00:56:41,394
being available and to all the

1675
00:56:41,394 --> 00:56:43,794
officers that are listening

1676
00:56:43,996 --> 00:56:47,650
thank you so much for your

1677
00:56:47,650 --> 00:56:49,650
service.

1678
00:56:49,101 --> 00:56:49,835
Thank you chair.

1679
00:56:49,835 --> 00:56:50,502
You councilmember Curtis, thank

1680
00:56:50,502 --> 00:56:51,203
you very much, MADAM Chair.

1681
00:56:51,203 --> 00:56:51,770
Councilor fix centers, you're

1682
00:56:51,770 --> 00:56:53,939
the only one that bugs

1683
00:56:53,939 --> 00:56:56,939
leadership of the labor unrest,

1684
00:56:57,843 --> 00:57:00,450
the rest of us are perfect to

1685
00:57:00,450 --> 00:57:00,713
Chief thank you so much for.

1686
00:57:00,713 --> 00:57:02,347
Always coming in and sharing

1687
00:57:02,347 --> 00:57:03,114
the day with us. I don't really

1688
00:57:03,114 --> 00:57:06,114
have anything other than to

1689
00:57:06,385 --> 00:57:09,355
say. I was glad you brought up

1690
00:57:09,355 --> 00:57:11,355
the e-bike.

1691
00:57:12,624 --> 00:57:15,240
>> Social media campaign that.

1692
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,364
Your apartment has been doing.

1693
00:57:18,364 --> 00:57:18,997
>> I just wanted to offer.

1694
00:57:18,997 --> 00:57:19,965
A suggestion I guess Johns

1695
00:57:19,965 --> 00:57:22,965
Hopkins all children's has been

1696
00:57:23,135 --> 00:57:26,135
doing their own e-bike campaign

1697
00:57:26,405 --> 00:57:27,306
and it would be interesting if

1698
00:57:27,306 --> 00:57:28,507
there was

1699
00:57:28,507 --> 00:57:31,507
some crossover with both both

1700
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:33,312
on the education from a here's

1701
00:57:33,312 --> 00:57:34,130
what you should do before

1702
00:57:34,130 --> 00:57:36,882
getting hurt and if you do get

1703
00:57:36,882 --> 00:57:37,683
hurt. You know helmets and

1704
00:57:37,683 --> 00:57:38,551
things like

1705
00:57:38,551 --> 00:57:39,184
that their yard has done some

1706
00:57:39,184 --> 00:57:41,584
really good. Social media

1707
00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:42,454
campaigns about the type of

1708
00:57:42,454 --> 00:57:43,689
helmet you

1709
00:57:43,689 --> 00:57:45,324
should be wearing things like

1710
00:57:45,324 --> 00:57:47,860
that and so I just thought it

1711
00:57:47,860 --> 00:57:48,727
could be good crossover because

1712
00:57:48,727 --> 00:57:49,928
you're both attacking it

1713
00:57:49,928 --> 00:57:50,595
frankly right And so I just

1714
00:57:50,595 --> 00:57:53,231
thought I'd bring it up but

1715
00:57:53,231 --> 00:57:54,633
otherwise thank you so much for

1716
00:57:54,633 --> 00:57:55,334
the update. Thank you. Thank

1717
00:57:55,334 --> 00:57:58,203
you to the team and everybody

1718
00:57:58,203 --> 00:58:01,203
back of the department just

1719
00:58:01,373 --> 00:58:01,907
very thankful for all of you.

1720
00:58:01,907 --> 00:58:02,540
Thanks MADAM Chair.

1721
00:58:02,540 --> 00:58:03,175
And so I can tell you this

1722
00:58:03,175 --> 00:58:03,842
Fernandez in the audience

1723
00:58:03,842 --> 00:58:04,476
behind me and we are working

1724
00:58:04,476 --> 00:58:06,378
with them we're trying to

1725
00:58:06,378 --> 00:58:06,879
figure out like say show the

1726
00:58:06,879 --> 00:58:08,879
kids what happens.

1727
00:58:10,115 --> 00:58:12,784
It is serious when they get

1728
00:58:12,784 --> 00:58:13,385
that thank you

1729
00:58:13,385 --> 00:58:13,719
thank you councilmember

1730
00:58:13,719 --> 00:58:15,320
capping.

1731
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,320
Well that actually just brought

1732
00:58:18,591 --> 00:58:20,158
up something I meant to ask

1733
00:58:20,158 --> 00:58:20,826
earlier and forgot so

1734
00:58:20,826 --> 00:58:22,427
the helmets, I mean none of

1735
00:58:22,427 --> 00:58:23,128
these kids wear helmets.

1736
00:58:23,128 --> 00:58:23,796
I think like in our area, you

1737
00:58:23,796 --> 00:58:25,796
know north-northeast there's

1738
00:58:26,999 --> 00:58:27,666
really one kid out of all of

1739
00:58:27,666 --> 00:58:30,660
these kids wearing helmets,

1740
00:58:30,568 --> 00:58:30,969
it's a cultural thing right

1741
00:58:30,969 --> 00:58:32,371
like the

1742
00:58:32,371 --> 00:58:33,906
kids are too little too cool to

1743
00:58:33,906 --> 00:58:36,207
wear helmets. Is it an actual

1744
00:58:36,207 --> 00:58:36,842
so like if you get them for

1745
00:58:36,842 --> 00:58:39,242
speeding is there another

1746
00:58:39,778 --> 00:58:40,479
infraction for not wearing a

1747
00:58:40,479 --> 00:58:43,748
helmet or like is that just

1748
00:58:43,748 --> 00:58:46,118
a safety issue that you know we

1749
00:58:46,118 --> 00:58:46,818
can't

1750
00:58:46,818 --> 00:58:47,519
really police our way out of.

1751
00:58:47,519 --> 00:58:48,220
i think he's probably going to

1752
00:58:48,220 --> 00:58:51,290
be the Legislature. We have is

1753
00:58:51,290 --> 00:58:53,391
yeah is it was raided it I

1754
00:58:53,391 --> 00:58:54,590
think its 25th can remember.

1755
00:58:54,590 --> 00:58:54,793
There is a motorcycle didn't

1756
00:58:54,793 --> 00:58:55,660
work. Then you know you have to

1757
00:58:55,660 --> 00:58:59,300
try to figure it out but right

1758
00:58:59,300 --> 00:59:02,300
now there's no requirement for

1759
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:02,767
I have a helmet on okay so

1760
00:59:02,767 --> 00:59:04,200
all right that's something.

1761
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,737
To kind of think about that you

1762
00:59:05,737 --> 00:59:06,438
know as as lair we start to

1763
00:59:06,438 --> 00:59:09,140
talk about you know priorities

1764
00:59:09,140 --> 00:59:09,742
and working with our

1765
00:59:09,742 --> 00:59:12,142
legislature on you know

1766
00:59:12,644 --> 00:59:13,846
potentially putting bills

1767
00:59:13,846 --> 00:59:14,546
forward. Maybe

1768
00:59:14,546 --> 00:59:15,280
there's something that can be

1769
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,170
done there because I mean it is

1770
00:59:18,170 --> 00:59:20,519
you know that's one of the

1771
00:59:20,519 --> 00:59:21,186
things like I publicly say

1772
00:59:21,186 --> 00:59:21,520
I won't buy my teenager and

1773
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:22,254
e-bike.

1774
00:59:22,254 --> 00:59:24,856
Because I know even if I bought

1775
00:59:24,856 --> 00:59:26,425
him one and a helmet as soon as

1776
00:59:26,425 --> 00:59:27,920
he takes

1777
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:27,826
office and put the helmet on

1778
00:59:27,826 --> 00:59:28,494
right. That's just unfortunate.

1779
00:59:28,494 --> 00:59:30,762
But if there was a way that

1780
00:59:30,762 --> 00:59:32,431
there was some sort of

1781
00:59:32,431 --> 00:59:33,865
enforcement around it.

1782
00:59:33,865 --> 00:59:36,265
>> Easier because regardless of

1783
00:59:37,135 --> 00:59:39,271
what speed they're going they

1784
00:59:39,271 --> 00:59:39,905
should be wearing one so

1785
00:59:39,905 --> 00:59:40,639
okay all right, thank you.

1786
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:41,339
And thank you and believe there

1787
00:59:41,339 --> 00:59:43,776
was a bill that would be told

1788
00:59:43,776 --> 00:59:46,812
well you keep any vice of

1789
00:59:46,812 --> 00:59:48,614
course

1790
00:59:48,614 --> 00:59:49,715
this session. Councilmember

1791
00:59:49,715 --> 00:59:52,985
Curtis, it's funny men to Saint

1792
00:59:52,985 --> 00:59:53,318
Anthony's I think you could

1793
00:59:53,318 --> 00:59:54,190
probably

1794
00:59:54,190 --> 00:59:56,655
add the dentists on that list

1795
00:59:56,655 --> 00:59:56,955
of people that pi think people

1796
00:59:56,955 --> 00:59:58,257
should

1797
00:59:58,257 --> 00:59:58,957
be protecting that the 3 had

1798
00:59:58,957 --> 01:00:01,357
their faith 15 Min everything

1799
01:00:01,826 --> 01:00:02,527
because everybody I've talked

1800
01:00:02,527 --> 01:00:03,195
to

1801
01:00:03,195 --> 01:00:06,640
the injuries are severe like

1802
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:06,465
when when they fall off whether

1803
01:00:06,465 --> 01:00:07,432
it's

1804
01:00:07,432 --> 01:00:10,680
the bikes or scooters or

1805
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:10,703
whatever it's really severe so

1806
01:00:10,703 --> 01:00:13,639
to all the council member

1807
01:00:13,639 --> 01:00:15,640
comments on the campaign for

1808
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:16,308
e-bike on e-bikes

1809
01:00:16,308 --> 01:00:16,975
great work. I was just at a

1810
01:00:16,975 --> 01:00:17,676
neighborhood meeting and the

1811
01:00:17,676 --> 01:00:20,760
community service officer was

1812
01:00:20,845 --> 01:00:21,646
there with other officers that

1813
01:00:21,646 --> 01:00:22,180
were talking about the

1814
01:00:22,180 --> 01:00:22,581
campaign provided to

1815
01:00:22,581 --> 01:00:24,490
literature.

1816
01:00:24,490 --> 01:00:27,319
And going out there is a really

1817
01:00:27,319 --> 01:00:30,319
pervasive problem you seek you

1818
01:00:30,588 --> 01:00:32,123
just see the more and more

1819
01:00:32,123 --> 01:00:32,791
everywhere.

1820
01:00:32,791 --> 01:00:35,394
And I think a lot of people

1821
01:00:35,394 --> 01:00:36,862
think it is convenient for a

1822
01:00:36,862 --> 01:00:37,496
lot of people to get their

1823
01:00:37,496 --> 01:00:39,597
kid maybe to school on any

1824
01:00:39,597 --> 01:00:40,331
fight except that it is

1825
01:00:40,331 --> 01:00:41,320
extremely dangerous and I think

1826
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:41,767
the danger is that the e-bikes

1827
01:00:41,767 --> 01:00:44,503
I think need to be covered more

1828
01:00:44,503 --> 01:00:46,503
broadly.

1829
01:00:47,706 --> 01:00:48,340
This meant that

1830
01:00:48,340 --> 01:00:49,740
so thank you very much and

1831
01:00:49,740 --> 01:00:52,144
I seen other requests to speak.

1832
01:00:52,144 --> 01:00:55,313
We will move on to the next

1833
01:00:55,313 --> 01:00:57,713
item. Thank you chief.

1834
01:01:07,826 --> 01:01:09,527
>> Is that John are quad is

1835
01:01:09,527 --> 01:01:10,228
coming to present this item.

1836
01:01:10,228 --> 01:01:10,962
Yes, thank you, I'm gonna ask

1837
01:01:10,962 --> 01:01:13,732
atomic you to join me. Yet none

1838
01:01:13,732 --> 01:01:17,200
of my side over there with them

1839
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,971
even not to run from Claude.

1840
01:01:19,971 --> 01:01:20,672
So.

1841
01:01:20,672 --> 01:01:21,273
So John normally would be here

1842
01:01:21,273 --> 01:01:21,907
unfortunately he and his

1843
01:01:21,907 --> 01:01:23,907
mother-in-law passed away

1844
01:01:24,209 --> 01:01:25,744
suddenly home Arco so you know

1845
01:01:25,744 --> 01:01:27,744
keep him

1846
01:01:27,946 --> 01:01:28,814
this family in your prayers, so

1847
01:01:28,814 --> 01:01:32,840
I don't know as much about this

1848
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:33,418
as John did or as much as Tom

1849
01:01:33,418 --> 01:01:34,118
does times really the one

1850
01:01:34,118 --> 01:01:34,485
who is really put this program

1851
01:01:34,485 --> 01:01:35,187
together.

1852
01:01:35,187 --> 01:01:37,555
So he has the information that

1853
01:01:37,555 --> 01:01:40,826
he'll share with you we believe

1854
01:01:40,826 --> 01:01:41,726
this is a good news item.

1855
01:01:41,726 --> 01:01:43,695
Which is why

1856
01:01:43,695 --> 01:01:45,330
you know we like it on report.

1857
01:01:45,330 --> 01:01:45,998
And we believe this checks the

1858
01:01:45,998 --> 01:01:48,166
box and a lot of year is in

1859
01:01:48,166 --> 01:01:49,467
terms of security of our

1860
01:01:49,467 --> 01:01:51,136
utilities resilience of our

1861
01:01:51,136 --> 01:01:52,437
utilities. This is definitely a

1862
01:01:52,437 --> 01:01:55,437
spa related islet live Tom

1863
01:01:55,707 --> 01:01:57,576
explain what we're doing.

1864
01:01:57,576 --> 01:01:58,143
Thank you Tom

1865
01:01:58,143 --> 01:02:00,143
ft com.

1866
01:02:01,412 --> 01:02:02,180
Yeah, thank top my name's Tom

1867
01:02:02,180 --> 01:02:04,249
make him a senior manager

1868
01:02:04,249 --> 01:02:05,451
with water resources department

1869
01:02:05,451 --> 01:02:08,720
and one of the divisions within

1870
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:09,955
that department is your skate a

1871
01:02:09,955 --> 01:02:11,923
department which

1872
01:02:11,923 --> 01:02:13,659
kind of I'm I'm I manage myself

1873
01:02:13,659 --> 01:02:14,760
I'm here to kind of give you

1874
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,620
the background it for this

1875
01:02:17,620 --> 01:02:17,929
report agenda were seeking

1876
01:02:17,929 --> 01:02:18,797
approval to enter a 20 year

1877
01:02:18,797 --> 01:02:21,197
lease agreement between the

1878
01:02:22,670 --> 01:02:25,670
city of St. Petersburg and

1879
01:02:25,336 --> 01:02:27,336
unity fiber incorporated.

1880
01:02:28,307 --> 01:02:28,974
>> Shortly after approval is

1881
01:02:28,974 --> 01:02:31,476
this agreement the city will

1882
01:02:31,476 --> 01:02:32,210
have fixed in an exclusive on

1883
01:02:32,210 --> 01:02:34,345
managed access to a fiber optic

1884
01:02:34,345 --> 01:02:36,345
communication loop. That

1885
01:02:37,715 --> 01:02:39,384
connects 9 critical water

1886
01:02:39,384 --> 01:02:41,384
resources facilities. I'll

1887
01:02:42,620 --> 01:02:45,890
explain to you here what having

1888
01:02:45,890 --> 01:02:46,825
exclusive unmanaged access.

1889
01:02:46,825 --> 01:02:49,825
Contains right so the purpose

1890
01:02:50,950 --> 01:02:50,962
of this fiber loop is so that

1891
01:02:50,962 --> 01:02:53,362
we can run on

1892
01:02:54,232 --> 01:02:54,899
skate and network on these

1893
01:02:54,899 --> 01:02:56,335
fibers.

1894
01:02:56,335 --> 01:02:57,350
I'm not sure if some of the of

1895
01:02:57,350 --> 01:03:00,350
not heard about skated before

1896
01:03:00,238 --> 01:03:01,140
it stands for supervisory

1897
01:03:01,140 --> 01:03:02,774
control and

1898
01:03:02,774 --> 01:03:05,611
data acquisition which is the

1899
01:03:05,611 --> 01:03:07,146
system that our department uses

1900
01:03:07,146 --> 01:03:07,813
to monitor control automate

1901
01:03:07,813 --> 01:03:10,213
water wastewater and pumping

1902
01:03:10,715 --> 01:03:12,715
operations throughout the

1903
01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:14,920
entire city.

1904
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:15,887
In practice Kate is a

1905
01:03:15,887 --> 01:03:16,889
technology lets the operator

1906
01:03:16,889 --> 01:03:18,423
see what's happening at Lis

1907
01:03:18,423 --> 01:03:20,823
station Street between plants

1908
01:03:21,727 --> 01:03:24,727
pump stations and other remote

1909
01:03:25,630 --> 01:03:27,463
facilities in real time.

1910
01:03:28,333 --> 01:03:29,367
And take action if needed.

1911
01:03:29,367 --> 01:03:31,367
This is especially

1912
01:03:32,704 --> 01:03:35,104
important for our sparge

1913
01:03:35,941 --> 01:03:36,808
actives because as as

1914
01:03:36,808 --> 01:03:37,508
part of our spar objectives.

1915
01:03:37,508 --> 01:03:40,379
There's a plan in place to run

1916
01:03:40,379 --> 01:03:42,614
our treatment plants as long as

1917
01:03:42,614 --> 01:03:45,614
possible during storm a bench.

1918
01:03:45,884 --> 01:03:46,584
And to accomplish this we MAY

1919
01:03:46,584 --> 01:03:49,554
need to evacuate these plants

1920
01:03:49,554 --> 01:03:51,790
were all all our personnel

1921
01:03:51,790 --> 01:03:55,590
would have to leave the site

1922
01:03:55,590 --> 01:03:55,927
and we have the ability to

1923
01:03:55,927 --> 01:03:56,628
operate these

1924
01:03:56,628 --> 01:03:57,328
plants until the storm surges

1925
01:03:57,328 --> 01:03:59,964
reach a certain level where we

1926
01:03:59,964 --> 01:04:03,101
MAY have to have the decision

1927
01:04:03,101 --> 01:04:04,169
to.

1928
01:04:04,169 --> 01:04:06,169
Cut the

1929
01:04:06,438 --> 01:04:09,808
electricity to the plans to say

1930
01:04:09,808 --> 01:04:13,770
from sable quitman for o storm

1931
01:04:13,770 --> 01:04:13,878
operations.

1932
01:04:13,878 --> 01:04:15,613
So we. We built in

1933
01:04:15,613 --> 01:04:18,983
the ability in this new system

1934
01:04:18,983 --> 01:04:21,983
to shut down these electricity

1935
01:04:22,187 --> 01:04:23,288
said and also monitor

1936
01:04:23,288 --> 01:04:25,288
these plant

1937
01:04:26,558 --> 01:04:28,193
operations through cctv

1938
01:04:28,193 --> 01:04:28,960
coverage and we have moisture

1939
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:29,961
sensors intellectual buildings

1940
01:04:29,961 --> 01:04:32,698
in place that all of the

1941
01:04:32,698 --> 01:04:35,990
signals get transmitted to this

1942
01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:38,370
do to skate in that work to

1943
01:04:38,370 --> 01:04:41,370
him. 2 are building it water

1944
01:04:41,539 --> 01:04:42,875
water resources.

1945
01:04:42,875 --> 01:04:44,175
This further

1946
01:04:44,175 --> 01:04:45,430
further benefit Reich is long

1947
01:04:45,430 --> 01:04:48,430
gone. This lease agreement to

1948
01:04:48,313 --> 01:04:50,313
provide long-term network

1949
01:04:51,616 --> 01:04:53,616
reliability and stability.

1950
01:04:54,352 --> 01:04:55,320
By looping this network if any

1951
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:56,221
stretch of the network actually

1952
01:04:56,221 --> 01:04:58,621
gets breached because this

1953
01:04:58,723 --> 01:04:59,424
system is looped Communications

1954
01:04:59,424 --> 01:05:02,424
can reversed direction and we

1955
01:05:02,661 --> 01:05:05,661
can still communicate with a

1956
01:05:05,830 --> 01:05:07,166
lot of our facilities.

1957
01:05:07,166 --> 01:05:10,166
This is an improve cyber

1958
01:05:10,435 --> 01:05:13,571
security benefit in which is a

1959
01:05:13,571 --> 01:05:14,172
that which is

1960
01:05:14,172 --> 01:05:15,674
a hot topic today we've

1961
01:05:15,674 --> 01:05:18,740
just received reports that

1962
01:05:18,643 --> 01:05:19,711
there are bad actors that are

1963
01:05:19,711 --> 01:05:20,478
actually trying to target these

1964
01:05:20,478 --> 01:05:22,878
industrial networks and I

1965
01:05:23,748 --> 01:05:26,148
having our own managed.

1966
01:05:26,885 --> 01:05:27,619
Network.

1967
01:05:27,619 --> 01:05:28,353
It's almost

1968
01:05:28,353 --> 01:05:31,522
it's very difficult to tap into

1969
01:05:31,522 --> 01:05:34,693
this these fiber optic show I

1970
01:05:34,693 --> 01:05:37,930
mean it's kind of.

1971
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,999
It's much beneficial to to

1972
01:05:40,999 --> 01:05:43,234
actually have control over on

1973
01:05:43,234 --> 01:05:45,234
our.

1974
01:05:46,538 --> 01:05:48,706
We had access to high bandwidth

1975
01:05:48,706 --> 01:05:51,106
least this lease agreement.

1976
01:05:51,977 --> 01:05:54,977
We'll give us interference free

1977
01:05:55,146 --> 01:05:56,715
communication.

1978
01:05:56,715 --> 01:05:58,715
And then I

1979
01:05:59,984 --> 01:06:03,321
think a touch base on that as

1980
01:06:03,321 --> 01:06:04,589
well as what we say one thing

1981
01:06:04,589 --> 01:06:06,589
by

1982
01:06:07,592 --> 01:06:08,259
having control of our own

1983
01:06:08,259 --> 01:06:08,926
network. We can control the

1984
01:06:08,926 --> 01:06:11,326
speed of communications that

1985
01:06:12,970 --> 01:06:14,132
then we can transmit through

1986
01:06:14,132 --> 01:06:16,167
there and that limitation is.

1987
01:06:16,167 --> 01:06:19,571
Just in the equipment, you know

1988
01:06:19,571 --> 01:06:22,607
that we have but in the future

1989
01:06:22,607 --> 01:06:23,308
these Whitman technology will

1990
01:06:23,308 --> 01:06:24,900
just get better and we'll have

1991
01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:26,844
the ability to do accommodate

1992
01:06:26,844 --> 01:06:28,647
any additional bandwidth

1993
01:06:28,647 --> 01:06:30,382
requirements.

1994
01:06:30,382 --> 01:06:31,617
But the most important one I

1995
01:06:31,617 --> 01:06:32,584
think one of the most important

1996
01:06:32,584 --> 01:06:34,180
things is is this lease will

1997
01:06:34,180 --> 01:06:34,752
lock us into a 20 year

1998
01:06:34,752 --> 01:06:37,752
agreement with the rate that

1999
01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:41,192
stay stable for the end tire 20

2000
01:06:41,192 --> 01:06:43,192
year term.

2001
01:06:46,300 --> 01:06:47,132
This we also have provisions in

2002
01:06:47,132 --> 01:06:48,900
the contract that if we make

2003
01:06:48,900 --> 01:06:50,401
this decision and after a few

2004
01:06:50,401 --> 01:06:53,238
years we want to go with a

2005
01:06:53,238 --> 01:06:55,440
different technology or as some

2006
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:56,208
sort we will be able to to come

2007
01:06:56,208 --> 01:06:56,908
terminate this agreement with

2008
01:06:56,908 --> 01:06:59,744
unity under certain with with

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01:06:59,744 --> 01:07:02,744
certain provisions that are in.

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01:07:05,984 --> 01:07:07,984
Other than that

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01:07:10,221 --> 01:07:13,391
I Well 1 one more item the you

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know the maintenance

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01:07:14,392 --> 01:07:15,694
responsibilities would be

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01:07:15,694 --> 01:07:17,629
clearly on the community fiber

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01:07:17,629 --> 01:07:18,330
and they I and then if we

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01:07:18,330 --> 01:07:18,997
actually lose his

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01:07:18,997 --> 01:07:21,397
communications still be out

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01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:22,900
there repairing the son of an

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01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:25,203
assortment of time so.

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01:07:25,203 --> 01:07:27,603
Thank you for your

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01:07:28,473 --> 01:07:30,410
consideration and with the

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01:07:30,410 --> 01:07:31,976
information that

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01:07:31,976 --> 01:07:33,211
I just presented here. I feel

2024
01:07:33,211 --> 01:07:34,790
that entering this long-term

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01:07:34,790 --> 01:07:34,713
agreement is in the best

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01:07:34,713 --> 01:07:35,214
interest for the city will

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01:07:35,214 --> 01:07:37,614
thank you Sir have

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01:07:38,584 --> 01:07:40,984
councilmember Curtis. Thank you

2029
01:07:41,820 --> 01:07:42,487
MADAM Chair. So.

2030
01:07:42,487 --> 01:07:44,122
>> I know just enough about

2031
01:07:44,122 --> 01:07:44,789
this to probably make me a

2032
01:07:44,789 --> 01:07:47,692
little bit dangerous but not

2033
01:07:47,692 --> 01:07:48,827
that much so don't get too

2034
01:07:48,827 --> 01:07:50,695
word.

2035
01:07:50,695 --> 01:07:53,950
So there are essentially

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01:07:53,980 --> 01:07:55,267
building the backbone between

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01:07:55,267 --> 01:07:57,269
the sites and we're leasing the

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01:07:57,269 --> 01:07:58,903
backbone back from them.

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01:07:58,903 --> 01:08:02,173
So we have the loop system.

2040
01:08:02,173 --> 01:08:04,943
Throughout the sites and his

2041
01:08:04,943 --> 01:08:06,943
career

2042
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:08,747
our servers on premise.

2043
01:08:08,747 --> 01:08:09,470
We have servers on on on our

2044
01:08:09,470 --> 01:08:11,470
yeah.

2045
01:08:11,716 --> 01:08:13,117
And then we have ridden that we

2046
01:08:13,117 --> 01:08:13,518
have redundancy off permits.

2047
01:08:13,518 --> 01:08:15,518
>> I'm not.

2048
01:08:16,521 --> 01:08:17,288
Gather with their questions so

2049
01:08:17,288 --> 01:08:17,989
of like power goes down

2050
01:08:17,989 --> 01:08:20,858
to where our server is we have

2051
01:08:20,858 --> 01:08:23,662
redundancy to add to a separate

2052
01:08:23,662 --> 01:08:25,290
server that's off premise.

2053
01:08:25,290 --> 01:08:25,730
Well if we have power there

2054
01:08:25,730 --> 01:08:26,464
than our network switches will

2055
01:08:26,464 --> 01:08:29,601
go down and we wouldn't be able

2056
01:08:29,601 --> 01:08:31,350
to get checked out

2057
01:08:31,350 --> 01:08:31,503
aforementioned, okay,

2058
01:08:31,503 --> 01:08:32,136
do have backup.

2059
01:08:32,136 --> 01:08:33,380
We have we have redundant

2060
01:08:33,380 --> 01:08:36,408
backup power at all of our at

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01:08:36,408 --> 01:08:38,509
all sites. Ok alright that was

2062
01:08:38,509 --> 01:08:39,210
my next question okay and so

2063
01:08:39,210 --> 01:08:42,470
got it and so what at the end

2064
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:45,817
of the 20 year lease do we have

2065
01:08:45,817 --> 01:08:49,870
the option to buy the backbone.

2066
01:08:49,870 --> 01:08:51,623
>> That has not been ok I am I

2067
01:08:51,623 --> 01:08:53,570
we have unity here

2068
01:08:53,570 --> 01:08:53,692
>> my guess is they don't want

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01:08:53,692 --> 01:08:56,595
to us, but it's not in the

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01:08:56,595 --> 01:08:59,730
agreement as I got it written

2071
01:08:59,730 --> 01:09:02,130
right now, yes, Sir.

2072
01:09:05,971 --> 01:09:07,971
I love that

2073
01:09:08,206 --> 01:09:08,873
it's a loop system and.

2074
01:09:08,873 --> 01:09:09,540
There's a lot of really good

2075
01:09:09,540 --> 01:09:10,274
things about this I'll just

2076
01:09:10,274 --> 01:09:11,977
leave it there before getting I

2077
01:09:11,977 --> 01:09:14,279
don't want people think I'm a

2078
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:14,646
nerd. Move approval.

2079
01:09:14,646 --> 01:09:15,347
Coming in.

2080
01:09:15,347 --> 01:09:18,483
We have a motion a second see

2081
01:09:18,483 --> 01:09:19,170
no other request. The clerk if

2082
01:09:19,170 --> 01:09:19,684
you can open making

2083
01:09:19,684 --> 01:09:22,840
for boating council members

2084
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:23,154
please enter your votes.

2085
01:09:23,154 --> 01:09:23,788
And in for the

2086
01:09:23,788 --> 01:09:24,556
council members of footage

2087
01:09:24,556 --> 01:09:25,223
Berkeley's telling us about

2088
01:09:25,223 --> 01:09:28,159
chair the motion to approve

2089
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:30,559
agenda item passes unanimously.

2090
01:09:31,396 --> 01:09:34,532
Thank you and thank you Sir.

2091
01:09:34,532 --> 01:09:36,335
We move

2092
01:09:36,335 --> 01:09:37,200
on to new business or not is

2093
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:37,736
one and that is by surfline.

2094
01:09:37,736 --> 01:09:40,136
Thank respectfully requesting a

2095
01:09:40,938 --> 01:09:41,739
referral to the public services

2096
01:09:41,739 --> 01:09:42,407
and infrastructure

2097
01:09:42,407 --> 01:09:43,474
Committee or other relevant

2098
01:09:43,474 --> 01:09:46,474
Committee for discussion on the

2099
01:09:46,711 --> 01:09:47,445
city's contract with flock

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01:09:47,445 --> 01:09:48,146
safety

2101
01:09:48,146 --> 01:09:48,847
in the use of flock cameras in

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01:09:48,847 --> 01:09:49,514
the city. You know we haven't

2103
01:09:49,514 --> 01:09:50,181
had a discussion about it in

2104
01:09:50,181 --> 01:09:52,584
the past I think it's a good

2105
01:09:52,584 --> 01:09:54,850
thing for us to do in

2106
01:09:54,850 --> 01:09:56,850
committee.

2107
01:09:57,355 --> 01:10:00,525
That's the basis of this all

2108
01:10:00,525 --> 01:10:02,525
move approval,

2109
01:10:03,161 --> 01:10:03,828
second.

2110
01:10:03,828 --> 01:10:04,428
We have a motion in the 2nd

2111
01:10:04,428 --> 01:10:06,731
quarter you can open the

2112
01:10:06,731 --> 01:10:09,131
machine for voting. Members

2113
01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:11,690
please. Ended up raising

2114
01:10:11,690 --> 01:10:11,770
council members voted clerk

2115
01:10:11,770 --> 01:10:14,238
please tell announce the vote.

2116
01:10:14,238 --> 01:10:16,507
MADAM Chair, the motion to

2117
01:10:16,507 --> 01:10:17,108
approve

2118
01:10:17,108 --> 01:10:17,508
agenda item g one passes

2119
01:10:17,508 --> 01:10:18,109
unanimously.

2120
01:10:18,109 --> 01:10:18,676
Next up we have to be to

2121
01:10:18,676 --> 01:10:19,377
referral to a kill ut

2122
01:10:19,377 --> 01:10:20,780
councilmember Givens thank you

2123
01:10:20,780 --> 01:10:20,745
chair respectfully requesting

2124
01:10:20,745 --> 01:10:21,312
referral to the housing land

2125
01:10:21,312 --> 01:10:21,979
use and Transportation

2126
01:10:21,979 --> 01:10:24,490
Committee or other relevant

2127
01:10:24,490 --> 01:10:24,749
Committee for discussion on

2128
01:10:24,749 --> 01:10:25,583
regulating autonomous vehicle

2129
01:10:25,583 --> 01:10:27,983
standards and safety oversight.

2130
01:10:28,887 --> 01:10:29,554
>> This discussion should focus

2131
01:10:29,554 --> 01:10:30,722
on comprehensive review and

2132
01:10:30,722 --> 01:10:31,422
discussion regarding regulatory

2133
01:10:31,422 --> 01:10:33,422
frameworks road compatibility

2134
01:10:34,291 --> 01:10:35,860
and safety standards for

2135
01:10:35,860 --> 01:10:36,862
automated driving systems.

2136
01:10:36,862 --> 01:10:38,396
The discussion should also

2137
01:10:38,396 --> 01:10:39,163
include measures law

2138
01:10:39,163 --> 01:10:40,131
enforcement can implement to

2139
01:10:40,131 --> 01:10:42,531
address specific concerns about

2140
01:10:43,401 --> 01:10:46,401
autonomous vehicles with that I

2141
01:10:46,571 --> 01:10:48,571
move approval,

2142
01:10:48,906 --> 01:10:49,608
second.

2143
01:10:49,608 --> 01:10:50,275
And motion a second clerk and

2144
01:10:50,275 --> 01:10:50,975
you can open the machine for

2145
01:10:50,975 --> 01:10:52,811
voting council members please

2146
01:10:52,811 --> 01:10:55,811
enter your votes. And it

2147
01:10:55,947 --> 01:10:57,148
appears and council

2148
01:10:57,148 --> 01:10:57,515
members voted quickly telling

2149
01:10:57,515 --> 01:10:59,515
us about.

2150
01:11:00,510 --> 01:11:00,719
MADAM Chair, the motion to

2151
01:11:00,719 --> 01:11:01,252
approve the agenda item g 2

2152
01:11:01,252 --> 01:11:01,986
passes unanimously.

2153
01:11:01,986 --> 01:11:02,654
Thank u next up is the 3 that's

2154
01:11:02,654 --> 01:11:03,655
my respectfully requests are

2155
01:11:03,655 --> 01:11:04,288
for all to budget finance and

2156
01:11:04,288 --> 01:11:04,955
taxation Committee for an

2157
01:11:04,955 --> 01:11:05,590
update on federal emergency.

2158
01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:07,590
The agency reimbursements

2159
01:11:08,260 --> 01:11:10,660
insurance proceeds grants in

2160
01:11:11,329 --> 01:11:13,164
all

2161
01:11:13,164 --> 01:11:13,564
of the revenues receiving

2162
01:11:13,564 --> 01:11:14,266
connection.

2163
01:11:14,266 --> 01:11:14,966
With insurance with hurricane

2164
01:11:14,966 --> 01:11:15,667
related expenses move approval

2165
01:11:15,667 --> 01:11:18,503
back in in the motion a second

2166
01:11:18,503 --> 01:11:21,640
clerk if you can open the

2167
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,441
machine for voting.

2168
01:11:23,441 --> 01:11:25,441
All Councilmember Curtis.

2169
01:11:26,344 --> 01:11:28,613
I just quickly with SEPTEMBER's

2170
01:11:28,613 --> 01:11:29,280
be fnt open is do you think

2171
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:29,814
administration could come is

2172
01:11:29,814 --> 01:11:30,515
that I'm not funny.

2173
01:11:30,515 --> 01:11:31,215
That's actually was mentioned

2174
01:11:31,215 --> 01:11:31,916
when we were talking about at

2175
01:11:31,916 --> 01:11:35,153
the committee of the whole so

2176
01:11:35,153 --> 01:11:38,289
they MAY be able to do it on

2177
01:11:38,289 --> 01:11:40,289
SEPTEMBER if

2178
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:43,594
it's off it's fine with you.

2179
01:11:43,594 --> 01:11:44,262
Hopefully we're probably

2180
01:11:44,262 --> 01:11:44,863
fine with whatever I didn't

2181
01:11:44,863 --> 01:11:45,230
want to I didn't want to

2182
01:11:45,230 --> 01:11:45,930
surprise.

2183
01:11:45,930 --> 01:11:46,664
Anybody know I appreciate I we

2184
01:11:46,664 --> 01:11:47,332
have the information I think we

2185
01:11:47,332 --> 01:11:48,433
can you ok so we'll go ahead

2186
01:11:48,433 --> 01:11:51,702
and add that the next month bf

2187
01:11:51,702 --> 01:11:53,237
and teacher okay sounds good.

2188
01:11:53,237 --> 01:11:53,971
>> We have a motion second

2189
01:11:53,971 --> 01:11:54,606
clerk to begin over the machine

2190
01:11:54,606 --> 01:11:56,708
for voting council members

2191
01:11:56,708 --> 01:11:59,100
please enter your votes present

2192
01:11:59,100 --> 01:11:59,577
council members to quickly

2193
01:11:59,577 --> 01:12:00,212
selling out the vote.

2194
01:12:00,212 --> 01:12:02,380
MADAM Chair, the motion to

2195
01:12:02,380 --> 01:12:03,681
approve agenda item g 3 passes

2196
01:12:03,681 --> 01:12:05,681
unanimously

2197
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,255
next step we have h one.

2198
01:12:10,255 --> 01:12:12,655
That's by hear Floyd

2199
01:12:14,659 --> 01:12:15,326
it's tell you t action item.

2200
01:12:15,326 --> 01:12:15,626
Requests fully respect we do

2201
01:12:15,626 --> 01:12:16,727
this.

2202
01:12:16,727 --> 01:12:19,998
Is it for you to say I all the

2203
01:12:19,998 --> 01:12:20,898
time like I go home and I say I

2204
01:12:20,898 --> 01:12:21,599
again

2205
01:12:21,599 --> 01:12:24,599
said request fully respect the

2206
01:12:24,602 --> 01:12:26,137
Respectfully requesting City

2207
01:12:26,137 --> 01:12:26,871
Council approval of

2208
01:12:26,871 --> 01:12:29,840
the motion to move the referral

2209
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:30,975
item regarding potential

2210
01:12:30,975 --> 01:12:31,543
changes to the city

2211
01:12:31,543 --> 01:12:32,243
code related historic

2212
01:12:32,243 --> 01:12:33,145
preservation and designation

2213
01:12:33,145 --> 01:12:35,112
from the housing land use and

2214
01:12:35,112 --> 01:12:35,780
transportation are many refer a

2215
01:12:35,780 --> 01:12:36,414
list of the committee of the

2216
01:12:36,414 --> 01:12:37,148
whole referral us to move

2217
01:12:37,148 --> 01:12:39,548
approval second election second

2218
01:12:39,684 --> 01:12:43,284
clerk if you can open admission

2219
01:12:45,289 --> 01:12:47,158
for boating council members

2220
01:12:47,158 --> 01:12:47,726
present.

2221
01:12:47,726 --> 01:12:48,393
Being that all present

2222
01:12:48,393 --> 01:12:48,993
councilmembers a good clerk

2223
01:12:48,993 --> 01:12:51,195
please telling us that.

2224
01:12:51,195 --> 01:12:51,763
MADAM CHAIRMAN to approve

2225
01:12:51,763 --> 01:12:52,163
tonight a page passes

2226
01:12:52,163 --> 01:12:52,797
unanimously.

2227
01:12:52,797 --> 01:12:53,498
Thank u next up we have a

2228
01:12:53,498 --> 01:12:55,232
public hearing item k one that

2229
01:12:55,232 --> 01:12:58,232
can be heard actually before 5

2230
01:12:58,503 --> 01:13:01,503
o one, correct. It's great

2231
01:13:01,639 --> 01:13:02,730
that's correct.

2232
01:13:02,730 --> 01:13:02,674
Okay.

2233
01:13:02,674 --> 01:13:05,740
This isn't an ordinance

2234
01:13:05,376 --> 01:13:07,776
amending an ally vacation

2235
01:13:07,913 --> 01:13:09,913
ordinace

2236
01:13:11,216 --> 01:13:14,216
located at 18 34st Avenue South

2237
01:13:14,352 --> 01:13:16,352
in 1850 Central Avenue

2238
01:13:16,521 --> 01:13:16,821
to replace condition number 5

2239
01:13:16,821 --> 01:13:17,522
work.

2240
01:13:17,522 --> 01:13:20,391
The pows or Dec. 11 79 dash v

2241
01:13:20,391 --> 01:13:22,260
in Ford's amending ordinance

2242
01:13:22,260 --> 01:13:25,260
1172 dash v which approved the

2243
01:13:25,296 --> 01:13:27,696
vacation of the Western 120

2244
01:13:28,633 --> 01:13:30,468
feet of the 20 foot alley

2245
01:13:30,468 --> 01:13:32,468
abutting lots 5 through 8.

2246
01:13:33,305 --> 01:13:35,305
In blocked 16 Fuller

2247
01:13:35,373 --> 01:13:37,773
subdivision located in 18 34st

2248
01:13:38,642 --> 01:13:38,976
Avenue South in 1850 Central

2249
01:13:38,976 --> 01:13:40,611
Avenue.

2250
01:13:40,611 --> 01:13:41,379
We place in condition number 5.

2251
01:13:41,379 --> 01:13:44,379
In section 3 in providing for

2252
01:13:44,682 --> 01:13:47,418
an effective date. We do not

2253
01:13:47,418 --> 01:13:48,119
have any cards.

2254
01:13:48,119 --> 01:13:48,820
>> Is anybody think the public

2255
01:13:48,820 --> 01:13:51,820
approval seconded the motion a

2256
01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:55,260
second clerk if you can open

2257
01:13:55,260 --> 01:13:57,660
the machine for voting.

2258
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,640
Council members pleaded to a

2259
01:14:03,401 --> 01:14:06,401
vote in that office and

2260
01:14:08,506 --> 01:14:09,400
council members to quickly

2261
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:09,673
selling out to vote.

2262
01:14:09,673 --> 01:14:10,308
MADAM Chair, the motion to

2263
01:14:10,308 --> 01:14:10,841
approve agenda item j one

2264
01:14:10,841 --> 01:14:11,575
passes unanimously.

2265
01:14:11,575 --> 01:14:13,978
Well we have gotten to the part

2266
01:14:13,978 --> 01:14:15,413
of our agenda out where the

2267
01:14:15,413 --> 01:14:16,514
remaining

2268
01:14:16,514 --> 01:14:19,160
items have to be at 5 oh one.

2269
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:19,651
Before we adjourn I just want

2270
01:14:19,651 --> 01:14:20,318
to let everyone know that

2271
01:14:20,318 --> 01:14:22,318
councilmember greatness and

2272
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,457
notify me and MR. Bill Edwards

2273
01:14:26,457 --> 01:14:28,457
has passed away.

2274
01:14:29,661 --> 01:14:31,661
For those

2275
01:14:33,498 --> 01:14:34,132
who know MR. Edwards on.

2276
01:14:34,132 --> 01:14:34,799
It's a huge loss for city.

2277
01:14:34,799 --> 01:14:36,799
Councilmember driskell thank

2278
01:14:37,802 --> 01:14:38,603
you if we I was actually going

2279
01:14:38,603 --> 01:14:39,337
to talk about it at the

2280
01:14:39,337 --> 01:14:41,872
end of our meeting tonight that

2281
01:14:41,872 --> 01:14:42,573
if we can and if any I'm going

2282
01:14:42,573 --> 01:14:43,274
to say a few words at the end

2283
01:14:43,274 --> 01:14:43,975
of the meeting and perhaps we

2284
01:14:43,975 --> 01:14:46,677
could have a moment of silence

2285
01:14:46,677 --> 01:14:49,814
at that time as well. Thank

2286
01:14:49,814 --> 01:14:51,814
you.

2287
01:19:18,316 --> 01:19:21,316
>> Being said we're in right.

2288
01:26:19,303 --> 01:26:21,303
>> In

2289
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,160
>> a

2290
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:19,720
>> It. It.

2291
02:11:03,985 --> 02:11:05,985
>> One.

2292
02:18:07,242 --> 02:18:09,242
>> In

2293
02:34:28,880 --> 02:34:30,880
>> a

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02:34:40,267 --> 02:34:42,267
Food.

2295
03:09:55,446 --> 03:09:57,446
>> In

2296
03:26:30,542 --> 03:26:32,542
>> Food.

2297
03:31:42,860 --> 03:31:42,719
>> Evening

2298
03:31:42,719 --> 03:31:43,540
>> everyone we're back in

2299
03:31:43,540 --> 03:31:43,688
session.

2300
03:31:43,688 --> 03:31:44,822
We are starting the public

2301
03:31:44,822 --> 03:31:47,658
hearing and was a good issue of

2302
03:31:47,658 --> 03:31:48,325
proceedings. And the first item

2303
03:31:48,325 --> 03:31:48,960
ha 2 this is the f why 2027

2304
03:31:48,960 --> 03:31:51,360
utility rates and charges.

2305
03:31:52,162 --> 03:31:54,999
Clerk if you can go ahead and

2306
03:31:54,999 --> 03:31:55,400
read the

2307
03:31:55,400 --> 03:31:56,100
ordinances.

2308
03:31:56,100 --> 03:31:58,100
Proposed ordinance number 6.44

2309
03:31:59,137 --> 03:32:01,672
dash age in orange relating to

2310
03:32:01,672 --> 03:32:04,720
sanitation rates and charges

2311
03:32:04,975 --> 03:32:05,709
the main chapter 27 section 27

2312
03:32:05,709 --> 03:32:08,120
dashed 5 57 of the St.

2313
03:32:08,120 --> 03:32:08,579
Petersburg city code. The many

2314
03:32:08,579 --> 03:32:10,979
rates and charges for

2315
03:32:11,515 --> 03:32:11,782
sanitation services, providing

2316
03:32:11,782 --> 03:32:13,782
for

2317
03:32:14,585 --> 03:32:15,252
severability provisions

2318
03:32:15,252 --> 03:32:15,853
providing an explanation in

2319
03:32:15,853 --> 03:32:18,253
words struck through and

2320
03:32:18,288 --> 03:32:19,190
underlined establishing a day

2321
03:32:19,190 --> 03:32:22,190
to begin calculating you rates

2322
03:32:22,459 --> 03:32:25,459
for the purposes and provided

2323
03:32:25,596 --> 03:32:27,996
for an effective date.

2324
03:32:32,360 --> 03:32:32,737
Which is not we're public

2325
03:32:32,737 --> 03:32:33,437
comment. We're reading are all

2326
03:32:33,437 --> 03:32:34,171
the ordinances. The next pope

2327
03:32:34,171 --> 03:32:36,571
where does this proposed

2328
03:32:37,108 --> 03:32:38,108
ordinance number 6.46 dash ph

2329
03:32:38,108 --> 03:32:41,108
an orange relating to utility

2330
03:32:41,478 --> 03:32:43,878
rates. Any section 27 dash 4,

2331
03:32:44,215 --> 03:32:46,215
0, 5, subsections

2332
03:32:47,417 --> 03:32:49,530
b one and b 2. This up the

2333
03:32:49,530 --> 03:32:51,221
brick city code amending the

2334
03:32:51,221 --> 03:32:51,922
stormwater utility fee amending

2335
03:32:51,922 --> 03:32:54,792
the 2 rate structure fees for

2336
03:32:54,792 --> 03:32:55,592
single-family residential

2337
03:32:55,592 --> 03:32:57,592
parcels providing for

2338
03:32:58,863 --> 03:32:59,530
severability provisions

2339
03:32:59,530 --> 03:33:00,297
providing an explanation in

2340
03:33:00,297 --> 03:33:00,998
words struck through and

2341
03:33:00,998 --> 03:33:02,660
underlined establishing a date

2342
03:33:02,660 --> 03:33:02,667
to begin calculating you reach

2343
03:33:02,667 --> 03:33:05,670
for billing purposes and

2344
03:33:05,569 --> 03:33:07,538
providing for an effective

2345
03:33:07,538 --> 03:33:09,538
date.

2346
03:33:09,707 --> 03:33:12,977
The next one is the proposed

2347
03:33:12,977 --> 03:33:15,377
ordinance number 6.45 dash ph

2348
03:33:16,246 --> 03:33:18,246
and orange really.

2349
03:33:19,450 --> 03:33:21,850
And charges men chapter

2350
03:33:22,787 --> 03:33:24,787
27 section 27 dash 4 27 dash

2351
03:33:26,900 --> 03:33:29,590
one o 9 b 27 dash one o 9 d

2352
03:33:29,590 --> 03:33:31,590
27 dash one 13 b

2353
03:33:32,363 --> 03:33:35,363
27 dash one 41 a 27 dash one 41

2354
03:33:35,533 --> 03:33:37,533
be 27 dash one

2355
03:33:38,690 --> 03:33:40,690
27 dash one 43,

2356
03:33:41,305 --> 03:33:43,705
27 dash one 44 27 dash one 46

2357
03:33:44,408 --> 03:33:46,808
be 27 dash one 46 d

2358
03:33:47,644 --> 03:33:49,644
27 dash one 77 a

2359
03:33:50,848 --> 03:33:52,783
27 dash one 77 d

2360
03:33:52,783 --> 03:33:54,783
27 dash

2361
03:33:56,530 --> 03:33:57,721
2 5827 des to 83 a 27 dash

2362
03:33:57,721 --> 03:33:59,721
2.84, a

2363
03:34:01,240 --> 03:34:03,424
27 dash 2.84 d 27 dash 3.35 g

2364
03:34:04,362 --> 03:34:06,362
and 27 dash 3.37.

2365
03:34:07,498 --> 03:34:08,999
Petersburg city code

2366
03:34:08,999 --> 03:34:11,501
any liability for charges and

2367
03:34:11,501 --> 03:34:12,136
many charges for potable water

2368
03:34:12,136 --> 03:34:14,238
connection and many water

2369
03:34:14,238 --> 03:34:14,838
relocation charge them any

2370
03:34:14,838 --> 03:34:16,838
charges commending meter

2371
03:34:17,740 --> 03:34:19,474
relocation charges many meteor

2372
03:34:20,143 --> 03:34:20,711
part.

2373
03:34:20,711 --> 03:34:22,711
Relocation charge any

2374
03:34:23,881 --> 03:34:24,648
charges for possible meters

2375
03:34:24,648 --> 03:34:25,950
amending based

2376
03:34:25,950 --> 03:34:26,550
in volume charges for water

2377
03:34:26,550 --> 03:34:27,718
service and many various

2378
03:34:27,718 --> 03:34:30,118
service charges and many

2379
03:34:30,754 --> 03:34:33,154
coastal water service charges

2380
03:34:33,924 --> 03:34:37,194
for the city of Qom port

2381
03:34:37,194 --> 03:34:37,795
removing references to common

2382
03:34:37,795 --> 03:34:38,428
combination.

2383
03:34:38,428 --> 03:34:41,640
Fire service and many fire

2384
03:34:41,640 --> 03:34:43,667
service charges. Any rates and

2385
03:34:43,667 --> 03:34:44,335
charges for irrigation only any

2386
03:34:44,335 --> 03:34:46,504
recent charge for commercial

2387
03:34:46,504 --> 03:34:49,504
water only accounts in recent

2388
03:34:49,706 --> 03:34:52,106
charges for reclaim water

2389
03:34:52,976 --> 03:34:53,611
service. Any circuit past the

2390
03:34:53,611 --> 03:34:56,146
fee. And many retail and

2391
03:34:56,146 --> 03:34:58,146
wholesale wastewater service

2392
03:34:58,982 --> 03:34:59,617
charges removing grease

2393
03:34:59,617 --> 03:35:01,185
discharge permit fee. Any

2394
03:35:01,185 --> 03:35:03,185
increased management program

2395
03:35:04,321 --> 03:35:05,222
fees, providing for

2396
03:35:05,222 --> 03:35:05,890
severability provisions

2397
03:35:05,890 --> 03:35:06,456
providing an explanation of

2398
03:35:06,456 --> 03:35:07,190
what struck through an

2399
03:35:07,190 --> 03:35:08,292
underlying establishing a day

2400
03:35:08,292 --> 03:35:09,927
to be in calculating new

2401
03:35:09,927 --> 03:35:10,694
charges for billing purposes in

2402
03:35:10,694 --> 03:35:13,694
providing for an effective date

2403
03:35:13,964 --> 03:35:17,134
and we do have speakers and

2404
03:35:17,134 --> 03:35:19,534
chair okay, thank you.

2405
03:35:25,376 --> 03:35:26,110
Thank the speaker.

2406
03:35:26,110 --> 03:35:26,810
I'm gonna call 2 at a time when

2407
03:35:26,810 --> 03:35:27,544
I call your name please go to

2408
03:35:27,544 --> 03:35:28,846
an open podium. State your name

2409
03:35:28,846 --> 03:35:31,816
address or cross Street for the

2410
03:35:31,816 --> 03:35:32,783
record you have 3 minutes to

2411
03:35:32,783 --> 03:35:35,783
address City Council, the first

2412
03:35:36,530 --> 03:35:39,530
2 speakers are and the unknown

2413
03:35:39,223 --> 03:35:41,223
and Jim Johnson.

2414
03:35:46,697 --> 03:35:49,533
>> My name is Linda. Anello I

2415
03:35:49,533 --> 03:35:50,670
live in Harbour Isle what to

2416
03:35:50,670 --> 03:35:50,667
know one

2417
03:35:50,667 --> 03:35:52,667
74 circle Northeast St.

2418
03:35:53,637 --> 03:35:54,238
Petersburg Florida. And I'm

2419
03:35:54,238 --> 03:35:55,539
here today to ask you as

2420
03:35:55,539 --> 03:35:57,741
my representative and a

2421
03:35:57,741 --> 03:35:59,741
representative government to

2422
03:36:01,110 --> 03:36:01,578
please vote no on the proposed

2423
03:36:01,578 --> 03:36:03,578
increase,

2424
03:36:03,847 --> 03:36:06,483
I'd like to also ask you what

2425
03:36:06,483 --> 03:36:07,451
steps has the city taken to

2426
03:36:07,451 --> 03:36:09,851
reduce expenses before asking

2427
03:36:10,588 --> 03:36:13,257
residents to pay higher utility

2428
03:36:13,257 --> 03:36:15,250
rates. We're a lot of us here

2429
03:36:15,250 --> 03:36:16,426
look like we're on a fixed

2430
03:36:16,426 --> 03:36:19,426
income and these rates are

2431
03:36:19,696 --> 03:36:20,264
hurting us and I know you don't

2432
03:36:20,264 --> 03:36:22,264
represent

2433
03:36:22,332 --> 03:36:22,933
to hurt people. I also would

2434
03:36:22,933 --> 03:36:25,836
like to ask why are the

2435
03:36:25,836 --> 03:36:28,836
residents being asked to absorb

2436
03:36:29,774 --> 03:36:32,174
increases in several different

2437
03:36:33,770 --> 03:36:34,440
utilities at the same time.

2438
03:36:34,440 --> 03:36:37,440
What is the projected total

2439
03:36:37,115 --> 03:36:39,515
increase to the average

2440
03:36:39,516 --> 03:36:42,152
homeowner's bill over the next

2441
03:36:42,152 --> 03:36:42,787
5 years. I know this increase

2442
03:36:42,787 --> 03:36:45,187
doesn't sound like much.

2443
03:36:46,560 --> 03:36:47,570
But over a five-year period.

2444
03:36:47,570 --> 03:36:47,692
Well with

2445
03:36:47,692 --> 03:36:49,259
that increase be for your

2446
03:36:49,259 --> 03:36:51,662
constituents and also are there

2447
03:36:51,662 --> 03:36:53,397
any expenses and the utility

2448
03:36:53,397 --> 03:36:56,397
budgets that could be postponed

2449
03:36:56,833 --> 03:36:59,833
or eliminated to reduce the

2450
03:37:00,103 --> 03:37:00,637
increase and how

2451
03:37:00,637 --> 03:37:02,873
as I said will these

2452
03:37:02,873 --> 03:37:03,807
increases affect seniors and

2453
03:37:03,807 --> 03:37:07,111
residents on a fixed income and

2454
03:37:07,111 --> 03:37:10,247
I thank you for hearing and

2455
03:37:10,247 --> 03:37:12,247
listening. Thank you.

2456
03:37:13,984 --> 03:37:16,384
>> Good afternoon Jim Johnson,

2457
03:37:17,287 --> 03:37:19,687
one oh 2, 1, 92, 39th Street

2458
03:37:20,457 --> 03:37:22,457
North. 2, 3, 7, 1, 3,

2459
03:37:23,393 --> 03:37:24,940
is that all you need.

2460
03:37:24,940 --> 03:37:24,362
This it could. Good afternoon

2461
03:37:24,362 --> 03:37:26,362
and.

2462
03:37:26,697 --> 03:37:27,298
I know I'm a little late to

2463
03:37:27,298 --> 03:37:30,200
have an impact on these

2464
03:37:30,200 --> 03:37:30,601
proposed increases in water and

2465
03:37:30,601 --> 03:37:31,268
sewer rates

2466
03:37:31,268 --> 03:37:33,904
into decisions must be made

2467
03:37:33,904 --> 03:37:35,706
today. But I will provide a

2468
03:37:35,706 --> 03:37:36,740
short

2469
03:37:36,740 --> 03:37:37,408
history of the past increases

2470
03:37:37,408 --> 03:37:40,408
will be addressing the bond

2471
03:37:40,443 --> 03:37:40,778
request on the NOVEMBER ballot

2472
03:37:40,778 --> 03:37:42,778
because

2473
03:37:43,513 --> 03:37:44,214
they are intertwined for this

2474
03:37:44,214 --> 03:37:46,116
conversation. First item being

2475
03:37:46,116 --> 03:37:49,116
utility rates second item being

2476
03:37:49,320 --> 03:37:50,721
references on the NOVEMBER

2477
03:37:50,721 --> 03:37:53,721
ballot. Utility rates of water

2478
03:37:53,990 --> 03:37:56,990
and sewer. Our services provide

2479
03:37:57,940 --> 03:37:57,828
every household the city.

2480
03:37:57,828 --> 03:38:00,197
The information I would provide

2481
03:38:00,197 --> 03:38:01,980
Ng is a quick summary. But

2482
03:38:01,980 --> 03:38:01,865
there is also a great deal more

2483
03:38:01,865 --> 03:38:04,265
information else trey ships

2484
03:38:05,135 --> 03:38:07,471
about the history on today's

2485
03:38:07,471 --> 03:38:09,471
agenda.

2486
03:38:10,807 --> 03:38:11,942
The evaluation period for 6

2487
03:38:11,942 --> 03:38:13,942
years and

2488
03:38:15,120 --> 03:38:17,120
2021 to 2026. Announces from

2489
03:38:18,348 --> 03:38:20,748
JANUARY or Feb. 20 21. The

2490
03:38:21,685 --> 03:38:24,685
water rate back in 2021 usage

2491
03:38:24,988 --> 03:38:27,388
was to 28 per 1000 gallons.

2492
03:38:27,825 --> 03:38:28,458
The t b w was to 48 for

2493
03:38:28,458 --> 03:38:30,458
2010 thousand gallons one

2494
03:38:31,562 --> 03:38:33,597
touchdown. Skews me for a total

2495
03:38:33,597 --> 03:38:35,597
of $4.76 per 1000 down.

2496
03:38:36,867 --> 03:38:39,867
The sewage rate was $8 per 1000

2497
03:38:39,936 --> 03:38:41,936
pounds.

2498
03:38:45,575 --> 03:38:47,975
FEBRUARY of 2026. The water

2499
03:38:48,945 --> 03:38:52,382
usage rate is 4.19. The tv w's

2500
03:38:52,382 --> 03:38:54,510
to 64. 4 total of 6.83.

2501
03:38:54,510 --> 03:38:56,510
Sewage rates $11.

2502
03:38:57,321 --> 03:38:59,523
This illustrates a 43% increase

2503
03:38:59,523 --> 03:39:01,523
and water sewage.

2504
03:39:02,926 --> 03:39:05,926
Those trading an average annual

2505
03:39:06,960 --> 03:39:08,960
increase of 8.6%.

2506
03:39:08,933 --> 03:39:11,902
And a 38% increase and you are

2507
03:39:11,902 --> 03:39:14,838
should an average increase of

2508
03:39:14,838 --> 03:39:16,807
7.4%. This is in just 6 years.

2509
03:39:16,807 --> 03:39:19,976
Now for the year 27. There will

2510
03:39:19,976 --> 03:39:22,713
be an increased an average of

2511
03:39:22,713 --> 03:39:25,713
7% to add to these rates.

2512
03:39:25,982 --> 03:39:26,517
They will continue to be rate

2513
03:39:26,517 --> 03:39:28,517
increases each year.

2514
03:39:28,619 --> 03:39:29,619
And possibly more than one in a

2515
03:39:29,619 --> 03:39:32,619
year. This cannot continue to

2516
03:39:32,856 --> 03:39:35,856
rate increases are far beyond

2517
03:39:35,959 --> 03:39:37,959
inflationary adjustments.

2518
03:39:38,695 --> 03:39:39,329
The annual budgets for these

2519
03:39:39,329 --> 03:39:41,331
services include money for

2520
03:39:41,331 --> 03:39:42,650
capital improvement improvement

2521
03:39:42,650 --> 03:39:44,701
projects. This will be relevant

2522
03:39:44,701 --> 03:39:45,903
to much discussion on the bond

2523
03:39:45,903 --> 03:39:48,438
issue. I have a trouble except

2524
03:39:48,438 --> 03:39:51,708
in the cost of these services

2525
03:39:51,708 --> 03:39:54,644
have increased at this rate

2526
03:39:54,644 --> 03:39:55,646
over a short period of time.

2527
03:39:55,646 --> 03:39:56,246
They are excessive and

2528
03:39:56,246 --> 03:39:58,148
illustrate a failure of

2529
03:39:58,148 --> 03:39:58,915
controlling cost containment

2530
03:39:58,915 --> 03:40:00,915
for wages insurance

2531
03:40:01,652 --> 03:40:02,352
maintenance. Etc these issues

2532
03:40:02,352 --> 03:40:04,621
should be addressed within the

2533
03:40:04,621 --> 03:40:05,488
respective departments, current

2534
03:40:05,488 --> 03:40:08,488
utility rates are out of

2535
03:40:08,759 --> 03:40:11,759
control and cannot be continued

2536
03:40:11,962 --> 03:40:13,962
at this pace.

2537
03:40:15,132 --> 03:40:17,132
General referendum.

2538
03:40:17,634 --> 03:40:18,350
>> Thank you Sir, sorry, most

2539
03:40:18,350 --> 03:40:20,350
by quickly.

2540
03:40:21,204 --> 03:40:21,805
Next 2 speakers are Matthew

2541
03:40:21,805 --> 03:40:22,506
Freeman and

2542
03:40:22,506 --> 03:40:23,240
Holly no please go to an open

2543
03:40:23,240 --> 03:40:23,940
podium. State your name address

2544
03:40:23,940 --> 03:40:26,643
or cross Street for the record

2545
03:40:26,643 --> 03:40:29,643
you have 3 minutes to address

2546
03:40:29,780 --> 03:40:31,780
the City Council.

2547
03:40:36,200 --> 03:40:36,687
>> My name is Matt frame and I

2548
03:40:36,687 --> 03:40:37,387
live at 1650 Robinson drive

2549
03:40:37,387 --> 03:40:38,121
North. Thank you City Council

2550
03:40:38,121 --> 03:40:41,121
members for this opportunity to

2551
03:40:41,325 --> 03:40:43,326
speak on the propose utility

2552
03:40:43,326 --> 03:40:43,928
rates and

2553
03:40:43,928 --> 03:40:47,164
agenda item j to see. I

2554
03:40:47,164 --> 03:40:47,931
recognize additional revenue is

2555
03:40:47,931 --> 03:40:49,320
needed to update and

2556
03:40:49,320 --> 03:40:51,320
modernize infrastructure.

2557
03:40:52,436 --> 03:40:53,103
I would discourage increasing

2558
03:40:53,103 --> 03:40:54,171
the potable water and water

2559
03:40:54,171 --> 03:40:56,571
wastewater base rates for

2560
03:40:56,773 --> 03:40:59,173
residents. It's a constantly

2561
03:41:00,177 --> 03:41:01,812
references affordable housing.

2562
03:41:01,812 --> 03:41:02,379
But there's more to that than

2563
03:41:02,379 --> 03:41:03,146
just rent or mortgage,

2564
03:41:03,146 --> 03:41:06,146
increasing base rates adds to

2565
03:41:06,416 --> 03:41:08,816
the monthly costs are

2566
03:41:09,586 --> 03:41:11,121
unavoidable by residents.

2567
03:41:11,121 --> 03:41:13,757
High fixed charge hits a low

2568
03:41:13,757 --> 03:41:15,926
use and the low income

2569
03:41:15,926 --> 03:41:18,326
customers regardless of how

2570
03:41:19,196 --> 03:41:20,664
carefully they can serve.

2571
03:41:20,664 --> 03:41:21,632
Speaking from my monthly bill

2572
03:41:21,632 --> 03:41:24,901
I pay over a $100 a month with

2573
03:41:24,901 --> 03:41:26,870
0 water usage which is over

2574
03:41:26,870 --> 03:41:28,505
$1200 a year.

2575
03:41:28,505 --> 03:41:31,505
The say is already considering

2576
03:41:31,775 --> 03:41:32,176
a proposed 7 and a half percent

2577
03:41:32,176 --> 03:41:34,176
increase to

2578
03:41:35,512 --> 03:41:36,113
the variable water block great.

2579
03:41:36,113 --> 03:41:36,813
And propose 6 and a half

2580
03:41:36,813 --> 03:41:38,916
percent increase at the

2581
03:41:38,916 --> 03:41:39,583
wastewater variable rate so I

2582
03:41:39,583 --> 03:41:41,983
would recommend shifting the

2583
03:41:42,452 --> 03:41:43,920
proposed increase the base rate

2584
03:41:43,920 --> 03:41:44,688
to that.

2585
03:41:44,688 --> 03:41:47,657
I would further suggests that

2586
03:41:47,657 --> 03:41:48,626
the proposed increase to the

2587
03:41:48,626 --> 03:41:51,626
variable water block great be

2588
03:41:51,996 --> 03:41:53,663
reconsidered so the difference

2589
03:41:53,663 --> 03:41:54,531
is not 7 a half percent

2590
03:41:54,531 --> 03:41:55,866
across each of the 4 blocks

2591
03:41:55,866 --> 03:41:58,266
then increasing or progressive

2592
03:41:59,135 --> 03:41:59,803
percentage for each block of

2593
03:41:59,803 --> 03:42:01,638
water usage.

2594
03:42:01,638 --> 03:42:04,608
This is the mayor redesigning

2595
03:42:04,608 --> 03:42:07,244
held the seat proposes to

2596
03:42:07,244 --> 03:42:09,213
collect the additional revenue

2597
03:42:09,213 --> 03:42:11,948
in doing so the city will

2598
03:42:11,948 --> 03:42:14,948
collect revenue where the costs

2599
03:42:15,352 --> 03:42:16,320
primarily curse from water

2600
03:42:16,320 --> 03:42:18,320
consumption. Not

2601
03:42:19,156 --> 03:42:20,156
merely from having a water

2602
03:42:20,156 --> 03:42:22,125
connection. And further if it

2603
03:42:22,125 --> 03:42:23,930
encourages water conservation

2604
03:42:23,930 --> 03:42:26,463
that will only serve to extend

2605
03:42:26,463 --> 03:42:28,863
the lifespan of infrastructure

2606
03:42:29,566 --> 03:42:30,267
that the city is looking

2607
03:42:30,267 --> 03:42:31,501
to update our ice to summarize

2608
03:42:31,501 --> 03:42:32,202
I would ask that the sea

2609
03:42:32,202 --> 03:42:34,137
consider and alternative rate

2610
03:42:34,137 --> 03:42:35,239
schedule than the one currently

2611
03:42:35,239 --> 03:42:37,639
proposed for water and

2612
03:42:38,609 --> 03:42:41,900
wastewater. Thank you thank

2613
03:42:41,778 --> 03:42:43,778
you. Go ahead.

2614
03:42:45,248 --> 03:42:45,949
>> My name is

2615
03:42:45,949 --> 03:42:48,551
Holly Noah 8, 1, one Placido a

2616
03:42:48,551 --> 03:42:49,553
Northeast I'm here to urge you

2617
03:42:49,553 --> 03:42:50,688
to vote no on the

2618
03:42:50,688 --> 03:42:53,880
proposed utility rate increases

2619
03:42:54,240 --> 03:42:55,159
in fiscal year 2025 Saint Pete

2620
03:42:55,159 --> 03:42:57,159
earned million from

2621
03:42:57,994 --> 03:42:59,994
water resources, 41 million

2622
03:43:01,165 --> 03:43:01,865
from storm water and 65 million

2623
03:43:01,865 --> 03:43:03,865
from sanitation. $324 million

2624
03:43:04,902 --> 03:43:06,637
in revenue total. And that was

2625
03:43:06,637 --> 03:43:08,172
before rates went up

2626
03:43:08,172 --> 03:43:09,239
for the 5th year in a row after

2627
03:43:09,239 --> 03:43:10,774
expenses, including

2628
03:43:10,774 --> 03:43:12,774
depreciation those 3 utility

2629
03:43:14,440 --> 03:43:14,945
still generated more than $72

2630
03:43:14,945 --> 03:43:17,345
million in operating income.

2631
03:43:18,215 --> 03:43:19,549
So why pray tell does the city

2632
03:43:19,549 --> 03:43:21,549
need

2633
03:43:22,520 --> 03:43:23,921
to raise rates again. The Aug.

2634
03:43:23,921 --> 03:43:26,921
13th budget and finance packet

2635
03:43:27,157 --> 03:43:27,757
cites rising costs for labor

2636
03:43:27,757 --> 03:43:29,259
material infrastructure,

2637
03:43:29,259 --> 03:43:31,561
regulatory compliance. But the

2638
03:43:31,561 --> 03:43:34,531
city doesn't show us how those

2639
03:43:34,531 --> 03:43:35,499
increased costs justified.

2640
03:43:35,499 --> 03:43:37,934
The increased rates. In fact

2641
03:43:37,934 --> 03:43:39,670
the same packet shows proposed

2642
03:43:39,670 --> 03:43:41,670
operating expenses, declining

2643
03:43:42,405 --> 03:43:44,805
0.4 in water resources and

2644
03:43:45,341 --> 03:43:46,243
nearly 2% in storm water.

2645
03:43:46,243 --> 03:43:49,412
So why does the city need to

2646
03:43:49,412 --> 03:43:52,412
raise rates again. My utility

2647
03:43:52,816 --> 03:43:54,117
bill has increased nearly 24%

2648
03:43:54,117 --> 03:43:56,517
since 2022. And that includes

2649
03:43:57,287 --> 03:43:58,722
a 35% increase in reclaimed,

2650
03:43:58,722 --> 03:44:00,457
and nearly 60% increase in

2651
03:44:00,457 --> 03:44:02,857
storm water. The city's

2652
03:44:03,827 --> 03:44:05,696
projections call for increases

2653
03:44:05,696 --> 03:44:07,331
every year through 2031.

2654
03:44:07,331 --> 03:44:09,731
7% water resources, 8 and a

2655
03:44:10,601 --> 03:44:11,601
half percent stormwater 6%

2656
03:44:11,601 --> 03:44:13,601
sanitation

2657
03:44:14,938 --> 03:44:17,338
and nearly 10%. In reclaimed

2658
03:44:18,274 --> 03:44:21,445
and that does not include the

2659
03:44:21,445 --> 03:44:23,313
10% city imposed tax

2660
03:44:23,313 --> 03:44:25,382
on water and reclaimed water.

2661
03:44:25,382 --> 03:44:28,382
By 2031 my utility bill we'll

2662
03:44:28,652 --> 03:44:31,520
increase another 45% to nearly

2663
03:44:31,855 --> 03:44:33,357
$250 a month

2664
03:44:33,357 --> 03:44:35,757
nearly $3,000 a year, 900 of

2665
03:44:35,892 --> 03:44:36,559
which 4 reclaimed water.

2666
03:44:36,559 --> 03:44:37,161
Importantly the city doesn't

2667
03:44:37,161 --> 03:44:38,528
publish reclaimed water

2668
03:44:38,528 --> 03:44:39,162
financials I asked my

2669
03:44:39,162 --> 03:44:41,365
councilmember for them his

2670
03:44:41,365 --> 03:44:42,899
office had to request them from

2671
03:44:42,899 --> 03:44:43,534
staff and I still don't have

2672
03:44:43,534 --> 03:44:46,690
them. Yet the city says

2673
03:44:46,690 --> 03:44:48,137
reclaimed rates cover only 80%

2674
03:44:48,137 --> 03:44:51,137
of cost and proposes nearly 10%

2675
03:44:51,408 --> 03:44:53,843
annual increases for 5 years to

2676
03:44:53,843 --> 03:44:54,711
maintain that level really

2677
03:44:54,711 --> 03:44:56,120
I'm sorry prove it. The city

2678
03:44:56,120 --> 03:44:56,647
has benefited from significant

2679
03:44:56,647 --> 03:44:59,470
increases in property tax

2680
03:44:59,682 --> 03:45:01,919
revenues and utility rate hikes

2681
03:45:01,919 --> 03:45:02,685
yet according to

2682
03:45:02,685 --> 03:45:04,685
fiscal 25 financials more

2683
03:45:05,755 --> 03:45:06,456
than $26 million was

2684
03:45:06,456 --> 03:45:08,625
transferred out of water storm

2685
03:45:08,625 --> 03:45:09,359
water and sanitation to the

2686
03:45:09,359 --> 03:45:12,229
general fund through payment in

2687
03:45:12,229 --> 03:45:12,963
lieu of taxes. And now the city

2688
03:45:12,963 --> 03:45:14,640
comes back to residents with

2689
03:45:14,640 --> 03:45:14,731
an open hand asking for more.

2690
03:45:14,731 --> 03:45:17,134
You need more money from the

2691
03:45:17,134 --> 03:45:17,801
people the people who cannot

2692
03:45:17,801 --> 03:45:18,868
live without water prove it

2693
03:45:18,868 --> 03:45:19,969
prove that what you're already

2694
03:45:19,969 --> 03:45:23,239
collecting is not enough and if

2695
03:45:23,239 --> 03:45:26,376
if and until you can prove it.

2696
03:45:26,376 --> 03:45:28,776
You must vote no.

2697
03:45:33,116 --> 03:45:33,783
>> Thank u next 2 speakers.

2698
03:45:33,783 --> 03:45:34,384
>> Next 2 speakers rfe alter

2699
03:45:34,384 --> 03:45:35,520
arrow in Patty's adults.

2700
03:45:35,520 --> 03:45:35,685
Please go to an open podium

2701
03:45:35,685 --> 03:45:36,352
state your name address or

2702
03:45:36,352 --> 03:45:39,352
cross Street for the record

2703
03:45:39,389 --> 03:45:41,789
you'll have 3 minutes to

2704
03:45:42,526 --> 03:45:44,526
address City Council.

2705
03:45:48,932 --> 03:45:51,332
>> Good evening my name

2706
03:45:52,502 --> 03:45:53,670
is Raphael Guerreiro I live at

2707
03:45:53,670 --> 03:45:55,670
6210. Second Avenue North

2708
03:45:57,700 --> 03:45:59,700
Petersburg 3, 3, 7, 1, 0, My

2709
03:45:59,576 --> 03:46:00,444
phone number is 7 a 6,

2710
03:46:00,444 --> 03:46:02,444
3, 7, 4, 6, 9, to 4. My email

2711
03:46:03,880 --> 03:46:07,160
is art rare 41. You know just

2712
03:46:07,160 --> 03:46:08,218
in case. 41.

2713
03:46:08,218 --> 03:46:09,319
And yeah that come.

2714
03:46:09,319 --> 03:46:12,756
I say in a name and email this

2715
03:46:12,756 --> 03:46:14,324
morning to all of you I don't

2716
03:46:14,324 --> 03:46:17,594
know if any of you read that

2717
03:46:17,594 --> 03:46:19,930
and I see some heads nodding

2718
03:46:19,930 --> 03:46:21,930
which is good.

2719
03:46:21,998 --> 03:46:25,269
I do I've been utility business

2720
03:46:25,269 --> 03:46:27,771
for 55 years. I have never

2721
03:46:27,771 --> 03:46:30,171
seen. It continues rate.

2722
03:46:31,740 --> 03:46:32,376
Increase like this one here.

2723
03:46:32,376 --> 03:46:33,710
I move here.

2724
03:46:33,710 --> 03:46:35,345
I said retired guy and I can I

2725
03:46:35,345 --> 03:46:38,345
see how people who survived

2726
03:46:38,381 --> 03:46:40,781
this increase. Now you're

2727
03:46:41,652 --> 03:46:44,652
proposing is crazy. What you

2728
03:46:45,890 --> 03:46:47,691
have to do what MISTER Given

2729
03:46:47,691 --> 03:46:49,325
was saying is 2 to 3%

2730
03:46:49,325 --> 03:46:52,595
go back to the consultant Rome,

2731
03:46:52,595 --> 03:46:53,263
the numbers again it will take

2732
03:46:53,263 --> 03:46:55,310
20 minutes to run it.

2733
03:46:55,310 --> 03:46:57,000
No more than that again with

2734
03:46:57,000 --> 03:46:57,968
your staff and said you have to

2735
03:46:57,968 --> 03:47:00,270
cut these projects and get the

2736
03:47:00,270 --> 03:47:03,139
discount and that's the way you

2737
03:47:03,139 --> 03:47:06,442
do. Rate cases you just don't

2738
03:47:06,442 --> 03:47:09,846
goal. And I don't know what

2739
03:47:09,846 --> 03:47:12,983
your numbers came from is not

2740
03:47:12,983 --> 03:47:13,683
really

2741
03:47:13,683 --> 03:47:15,385
clear where that came from if

2742
03:47:15,385 --> 03:47:17,554
you give the consultant and

2743
03:47:17,554 --> 03:47:19,522
number he's going to come up

2744
03:47:19,522 --> 03:47:22,793
with a rate. So go back to your

2745
03:47:22,793 --> 03:47:23,126
staff tell him to look at the

2746
03:47:23,126 --> 03:47:24,561
projects

2747
03:47:24,561 --> 03:47:27,497
really look at the project what

2748
03:47:27,497 --> 03:47:30,800
ifs in that wish list and what

2749
03:47:30,800 --> 03:47:31,100
do you really need. And go from

2750
03:47:31,100 --> 03:47:32,436
there.

2751
03:47:32,436 --> 03:47:33,103
Thank you have a nice evening.

2752
03:47:33,103 --> 03:47:36,106
And if you have any question

2753
03:47:36,106 --> 03:47:40,306
you got my phone and my email.

2754
03:47:42,345 --> 03:47:44,745
Everybody else has to.

2755
03:47:44,914 --> 03:47:47,914
>> Hi there my name is

2756
03:47:48,185 --> 03:47:48,751
Patty so dot and I am saying

2757
03:47:48,751 --> 03:47:49,519
que resident living at

2758
03:47:49,519 --> 03:47:51,519
1619 Pennsylvania Avenue

2759
03:47:52,756 --> 03:47:54,858
Northeast, e p and cross wrote

2760
03:47:54,858 --> 03:47:56,593
is I guess 62th Avenue.

2761
03:47:56,593 --> 03:47:59,362
Good okay. Resident Saint Pete

2762
03:47:59,362 --> 03:48:00,764
and I thought my home in 36

2763
03:48:00,764 --> 03:48:04,670
since that time my water bill

2764
03:48:04,670 --> 03:48:06,467
has increased. 180% over the

2765
03:48:07,304 --> 03:48:08,338
past 20 years from 20

2766
03:48:08,338 --> 03:48:09,305
from

2767
03:48:09,305 --> 03:48:12,575
2006 to 2026. We have all so we

2768
03:48:12,575 --> 03:48:13,243
all need water and we can't

2769
03:48:13,243 --> 03:48:15,243
live without it,

2770
03:48:16,513 --> 03:48:16,980
that's why we need to be good

2771
03:48:16,980 --> 03:48:18,980
stewards of this

2772
03:48:19,950 --> 03:48:20,516
essential resource and service.

2773
03:48:20,516 --> 03:48:22,752
The reason I'm here is

2774
03:48:22,752 --> 03:48:23,754
to ask for transparency.

2775
03:48:23,754 --> 03:48:26,754
How safe housing Pete is

2776
03:48:27,230 --> 03:48:28,892
calculating the water resource

2777
03:48:28,892 --> 03:48:30,930
rate increase in 20. 27,

2778
03:48:30,930 --> 03:48:32,493
there are 2 por important

2779
03:48:32,696 --> 03:48:34,564
questions what is planned for

2780
03:48:34,564 --> 03:48:35,265
2027 the city's recent annual

2781
03:48:35,265 --> 03:48:37,665
utility rate. Financial study

2782
03:48:38,134 --> 03:48:41,134
projected to 7% increase in the

2783
03:48:41,338 --> 03:48:43,338
retail water rate

2784
03:48:43,874 --> 03:48:44,841
for 2027. That same study

2785
03:48:44,841 --> 03:48:48,111
projects of course we all know

2786
03:48:48,111 --> 03:48:50,413
the water increasing 7% waste

2787
03:48:50,413 --> 03:48:52,413
water to 7%.

2788
03:48:53,684 --> 03:48:54,250
Plus reclaim water plus 9.7 5.

2789
03:48:54,250 --> 03:48:56,250
The storm water, 15%.

2790
03:48:57,421 --> 03:48:59,890
These increases are scheduled

2791
03:48:59,890 --> 03:49:00,924
to take

2792
03:49:00,924 --> 03:49:02,459
place obviously in Oct. 1st.

2793
03:49:02,459 --> 03:49:03,994
Why is the city increasing the

2794
03:49:03,994 --> 03:49:04,694
rates the rates get the

2795
03:49:04,694 --> 03:49:07,940
increase aren't simply because

2796
03:49:07,563 --> 03:49:08,698
the city expects to use more

2797
03:49:08,698 --> 03:49:10,698
water.

2798
03:49:11,969 --> 03:49:14,369
Utility system needs additional

2799
03:49:15,370 --> 03:49:16,239
revenue to cover

2800
03:49:16,239 --> 03:49:18,639
aging water and wastewater

2801
03:49:19,309 --> 03:49:21,278
infrastructure. Capital

2802
03:49:21,278 --> 03:49:23,278
improvement projects debt

2803
03:49:24,348 --> 03:49:25,480
service, operating costs such

2804
03:49:25,480 --> 03:49:28,480
as the labor service services

2805
03:49:28,510 --> 03:49:30,510
and materials maintenance

2806
03:49:31,221 --> 03:49:33,156
adequate. Just months

2807
03:49:33,156 --> 03:49:33,456
reserves.

2808
03:49:33,456 --> 03:49:35,456
>> My.

2809
03:49:35,926 --> 03:49:37,694
Distinct question then is why

2810
03:49:37,694 --> 03:49:40,964
can't the city in new Marie

2811
03:49:40,964 --> 03:49:41,498
rising costs for 2027 water

2812
03:49:41,498 --> 03:49:43,367
rate

2813
03:49:43,367 --> 03:49:46,367
increased by providing a clean

2814
03:49:46,636 --> 03:49:47,404
line by line accounting of what

2815
03:49:47,404 --> 03:49:49,804
is driving the increase.

2816
03:49:50,673 --> 03:49:53,673
The Saint Pete water reserves,

2817
03:49:54,100 --> 03:49:56,410
operating fund experience a

2818
03:49:56,847 --> 03:49:58,682
projected or projected to go

2819
03:49:58,682 --> 03:50:01,820
down is projected to

2820
03:50:01,951 --> 03:50:03,619
go down 4%. So why are we going

2821
03:50:03,619 --> 03:50:06,619
up why are rates increasing.

2822
03:50:06,890 --> 03:50:07,991
The city needs to go back to

2823
03:50:07,991 --> 03:50:09,991
the finance department.

2824
03:50:10,393 --> 03:50:13,630
And asked them to show you how

2825
03:50:13,630 --> 03:50:16,630
to explain to its residents

2826
03:50:16,833 --> 03:50:17,334
line by line. The map

2827
03:50:17,334 --> 03:50:18,601
on why the city is

2828
03:50:18,601 --> 03:50:21,601
proposing an increase in the

2829
03:50:21,872 --> 03:50:25,141
water rates I vote of course no

2830
03:50:25,141 --> 03:50:28,678
for an increase in the rate.

2831
03:50:28,678 --> 03:50:29,412
>> Next 2 speakers

2832
03:50:29,412 --> 03:50:30,413
are Bruce Nevins and Carla camp

2833
03:50:30,413 --> 03:50:31,470
please go to an open podium

2834
03:50:31,470 --> 03:50:31,714
state your name address or

2835
03:50:31,714 --> 03:50:34,650
cross Street for the record

2836
03:50:34,650 --> 03:50:37,500
you'll have 3 minutes to

2837
03:50:37,821 --> 03:50:39,821
address City Council.

2838
03:50:48,665 --> 03:50:51,634
You can go ahead Sir.

2839
03:50:51,634 --> 03:50:52,836
Hello my name is Bruce Nevins I

2840
03:50:52,836 --> 03:50:55,236
never 5136 28th Avenue North.

2841
03:50:56,139 --> 03:50:59,139
The cross Street is York.

2842
03:50:59,276 --> 03:51:02,276
And I'm here as a.

2843
03:51:02,412 --> 03:51:02,779
Family home.

2844
03:51:02,779 --> 03:51:04,779
Renter

2845
03:51:05,982 --> 03:51:06,849
my rent is going up every year

2846
03:51:06,849 --> 03:51:09,785
for the last 6 years that I've

2847
03:51:09,785 --> 03:51:10,487
been renting before that on the

2848
03:51:10,487 --> 03:51:13,289
House and got covid states for

2849
03:51:13,289 --> 03:51:15,240
20 years. And of course costs

2850
03:51:15,240 --> 03:51:17,127
were going up quite crazy over

2851
03:51:17,127 --> 03:51:20,197
there. But I'm not quite sure

2852
03:51:20,197 --> 03:51:22,265
why every year we continue to

2853
03:51:22,265 --> 03:51:23,466
have utility rate increases

2854
03:51:23,466 --> 03:51:26,736
when I don't see any different

2855
03:51:26,736 --> 03:51:28,504
service or better service is it

2856
03:51:28,504 --> 03:51:29,672
just a labor costs

2857
03:51:29,672 --> 03:51:32,642
is it. As has been mentioned

2858
03:51:32,642 --> 03:51:34,177
infrastructure replacement.

2859
03:51:34,177 --> 03:51:35,478
Again, everybody's saying be

2860
03:51:35,478 --> 03:51:36,680
clear about this and be

2861
03:51:36,680 --> 03:51:39,315
transparent about it. None of

2862
03:51:39,315 --> 03:51:42,586
that seemed to happen. You have

2863
03:51:42,586 --> 03:51:45,721
a you haven't way of doing this

2864
03:51:45,721 --> 03:51:46,489
where you have a

2865
03:51:46,489 --> 03:51:47,858
reading of the ordinance

2866
03:51:47,858 --> 03:51:50,159
supposedly and then you have a

2867
03:51:50,159 --> 03:51:50,861
public hearing and then

2868
03:51:50,861 --> 03:51:52,795
immediately after we talked to

2869
03:51:52,795 --> 03:51:55,398
you you're going to vote on

2870
03:51:55,398 --> 03:51:56,660
this that doesn't make any

2871
03:51:56,660 --> 03:51:57,901
sense how can you understand

2872
03:51:57,901 --> 03:52:00,770
what we should ask you about

2873
03:52:00,770 --> 03:52:03,373
how can you do anything about

2874
03:52:03,373 --> 03:52:04,274
what we've asked you about why

2875
03:52:04,274 --> 03:52:04,975
can't you be. At least

2876
03:52:04,975 --> 03:52:05,642
respectful of the citizens in

2877
03:52:05,642 --> 03:52:08,345
dealing with them in a very

2878
03:52:08,345 --> 03:52:10,745
transparent manner. Thank you.

2879
03:52:11,514 --> 03:52:13,514
Thank you.

2880
03:52:18,955 --> 03:52:19,656
My name is Carla count.

2881
03:52:19,656 --> 03:52:20,357
My address is 1419 42nd Avenue

2882
03:52:20,357 --> 03:52:21,240
North St. Petersburg Florida,

2883
03:52:21,240 --> 03:52:21,691
3, 3, 7, 1, 4, Sadly I am a

2884
03:52:21,691 --> 03:52:24,160
block and a half outside the

2885
03:52:24,160 --> 03:52:24,828
city limits so everything that

2886
03:52:24,828 --> 03:52:25,495
you're talking about you

2887
03:52:25,495 --> 03:52:28,531
can add an extra 25% to me.

2888
03:52:28,531 --> 03:52:29,165
The chief Lloyd would be my guy

2889
03:52:29,165 --> 03:52:32,168
I do have seen Pete water.

2890
03:52:32,168 --> 03:52:33,703
So I am here to talk about

2891
03:52:33,703 --> 03:52:34,670
that. I'm also a candidate

2892
03:52:34,670 --> 03:52:37,407
for Senate here. What I'm

2893
03:52:37,407 --> 03:52:38,740
hearing is people coming to you

2894
03:52:38,740 --> 03:52:38,741
with numbers which I'm very

2895
03:52:38,741 --> 03:52:40,477
impressed with that they've

2896
03:52:40,477 --> 03:52:41,177
done the research and I'm

2897
03:52:41,177 --> 03:52:43,980
wondering why that hasn't been

2898
03:52:43,980 --> 03:52:44,681
done internally what I would

2899
03:52:44,681 --> 03:52:46,583
like to say as someone who had

2900
03:52:46,583 --> 03:52:48,983
their entire road. Throughout

2901
03:52:49,218 --> 03:52:52,489
the city ripped up in the city

2902
03:52:52,489 --> 03:52:53,790
County event together where

2903
03:52:53,790 --> 03:52:54,791
they replace the water

2904
03:52:54,791 --> 03:52:57,761
twice. Ever since we've had

2905
03:52:57,761 --> 03:52:58,628
problems with water meters

2906
03:52:58,628 --> 03:53:00,496
there are thousands of

2907
03:53:00,496 --> 03:53:01,164
complaints about the water

2908
03:53:01,164 --> 03:53:02,565
meters not being right about

2909
03:53:02,565 --> 03:53:03,432
people getting charged

2910
03:53:03,432 --> 03:53:06,432
thousands of dollars for water

2911
03:53:06,703 --> 03:53:07,603
they've never consumed and

2912
03:53:07,603 --> 03:53:08,171
houses that are empty.

2913
03:53:08,171 --> 03:53:10,774
There are just as many

2914
03:53:10,774 --> 03:53:11,407
complaints and save the mayor's

2915
03:53:11,407 --> 03:53:12,642
office has been talked to

2916
03:53:12,642 --> 03:53:15,420
repeatedly you guys haven't

2917
03:53:15,811 --> 03:53:18,811
talked repeatedly, and no one

2918
03:53:19,148 --> 03:53:19,850
isn't anything. My next door

2919
03:53:19,850 --> 03:53:20,550
neighbor said to me. 2 months

2920
03:53:20,550 --> 03:53:21,718
ago hated your water bill the

2921
03:53:21,718 --> 03:53:23,190
weird. There is out of the blue

2922
03:53:23,190 --> 03:53:25,922
with 0 leaks they did have it

2923
03:53:25,922 --> 03:53:28,322
professionally tact was over

2924
03:53:28,391 --> 03:53:29,920
$200. That's outrageous.

2925
03:53:29,920 --> 03:53:31,327
I had this multiple times this

2926
03:53:31,327 --> 03:53:32,194
year alone. This is the second

2927
03:53:32,194 --> 03:53:35,465
time I've come here this year

2928
03:53:35,465 --> 03:53:37,466
alone with the same issues and

2929
03:53:37,466 --> 03:53:39,466
never gotten help.

2930
03:53:40,836 --> 03:53:41,838
I for one would appreciate you

2931
03:53:41,838 --> 03:53:44,474
guys not making this go up

2932
03:53:44,474 --> 03:53:45,175
until we have it under control.

2933
03:53:45,175 --> 03:53:48,277
We need to figure out if this

2934
03:53:48,277 --> 03:53:48,744
is a software issue. If people

2935
03:53:48,744 --> 03:53:49,412
have bad meters

2936
03:53:49,412 --> 03:53:52,115
whether its new leaders that

2937
03:53:52,115 --> 03:53:52,749
are bad. I don't know these

2938
03:53:52,749 --> 03:53:53,383
other facilities, but the

2939
03:53:53,383 --> 03:53:56,860
person who was at my house

2940
03:53:56,860 --> 03:53:56,786
today flat out told me I have

2941
03:53:56,786 --> 03:53:59,121
an old meter despite the fact

2942
03:53:59,121 --> 03:54:00,757
that they replaced it twice

2943
03:54:00,757 --> 03:54:01,390
just 2 years ago. So someone's

2944
03:54:01,390 --> 03:54:02,491
not doing records, right,

2945
03:54:02,491 --> 03:54:04,460
someone doesn't know to

2946
03:54:04,460 --> 03:54:06,460
calculate things right

2947
03:54:07,730 --> 03:54:08,231
something to some effect.

2948
03:54:08,231 --> 03:54:08,965
Highly inaccurate.

2949
03:54:08,965 --> 03:54:12,135
So I don't understand why you

2950
03:54:12,135 --> 03:54:12,802
guys where you're getting the

2951
03:54:12,802 --> 03:54:15,671
basis for to even raise the

2952
03:54:15,671 --> 03:54:16,105
funding when you don't know

2953
03:54:16,105 --> 03:54:17,400
what's really

2954
03:54:17,400 --> 03:54:18,374
happening with their water

2955
03:54:18,374 --> 03:54:19,909
system here. These guys had

2956
03:54:19,909 --> 03:54:22,309
very impressive numbers clearly

2957
03:54:22,512 --> 03:54:23,179
there's a discrepancy United

2958
03:54:23,179 --> 03:54:25,480
study accounting slim Italia

2959
03:54:25,480 --> 03:54:27,117
that's a huge discrepancy I

2960
03:54:27,117 --> 03:54:29,852
have to take that forward with

2961
03:54:29,852 --> 03:54:31,540
me but I would like I would

2962
03:54:31,540 --> 03:54:33,889
encourage you to dig in further

2963
03:54:33,889 --> 03:54:34,623
and get some actual numbers and

2964
03:54:34,623 --> 03:54:36,426
have people actually figure out

2965
03:54:36,426 --> 03:54:38,494
what's going on in their water

2966
03:54:38,494 --> 03:54:39,161
system. Before you start

2967
03:54:39,161 --> 03:54:41,561
charging people more money.

2968
03:54:41,665 --> 03:54:43,433
When it's already to point that

2969
03:54:43,433 --> 03:54:44,167
people can't afford to live.

2970
03:54:44,167 --> 03:54:45,268
That is most certainly as

2971
03:54:45,268 --> 03:54:47,668
someone else said and

2972
03:54:48,537 --> 03:54:50,937
affordability issue. Thank you.

2973
03:54:53,910 --> 03:54:54,544
Thank you.

2974
03:54:54,544 --> 03:54:55,244
Final 2 speakers are ging

2975
03:54:55,244 --> 03:54:56,120
coffin and Nathan Yang please

2976
03:54:56,120 --> 03:54:56,980
go to an open podium state your

2977
03:54:56,980 --> 03:54:57,580
name address across Street for

2978
03:54:57,580 --> 03:54:59,980
the record you'll have 3

2979
03:55:00,516 --> 03:55:02,916
minutes to address City

2980
03:55:03,553 --> 03:55:05,553
Council.

2981
03:55:06,822 --> 03:55:09,959
>> Hi my name is Jamie kah fun.

2982
03:55:09,959 --> 03:55:12,359
My dad, 28 24th Avenue

2983
03:55:13,229 --> 03:55:15,629
North St. Petersburg Florida.

2984
03:55:16,132 --> 03:55:17,234
I didn't even know about this

2985
03:55:17,234 --> 03:55:18,868
because I've been living in

2986
03:55:18,868 --> 03:55:21,868
citrus County because in citrus

2987
03:55:22,138 --> 03:55:24,540
County I have spring well water

2988
03:55:24,540 --> 03:55:26,309
and so I do not have a water

2989
03:55:26,309 --> 03:55:29,479
bill. But by has been has a

2990
03:55:29,479 --> 03:55:30,346
small business owner here so he

2991
03:55:30,346 --> 03:55:31,547
still lives in our house.

2992
03:55:31,547 --> 03:55:32,248
So it's just him I come home on

2993
03:55:32,248 --> 03:55:35,217
the weekends are unless I have

2994
03:55:35,217 --> 03:55:37,617
a doctor's appointment because

2995
03:55:38,388 --> 03:55:41,388
I am in. Have some

2996
03:55:41,924 --> 03:55:42,725
critical health problems.

2997
03:55:42,725 --> 03:55:45,725
But I am we got

2998
03:55:45,996 --> 03:55:49,310
our water bill 3 months ago and

2999
03:55:49,310 --> 03:55:51,000
it was

3000
03:55:51,000 --> 03:55:53,400
$2,352.91 and that's just him

3001
03:55:54,303 --> 03:55:54,838
and maybe me 3 times a month.

3002
03:55:54,838 --> 03:55:55,538
And so I said

3003
03:55:55,538 --> 03:55:56,205
well that's a mistake all just

3004
03:55:56,205 --> 03:55:59,442
go down there. You know that

3005
03:55:59,442 --> 03:56:02,712
there should be no problem he

3006
03:56:02,712 --> 03:56:03,279
was like oh.

3007
03:56:03,279 --> 03:56:04,581
I went down there and

3008
03:56:04,581 --> 03:56:07,416
I couldn't even talk to anybody

3009
03:56:07,416 --> 03:56:09,285
and they told me you have to

3010
03:56:09,285 --> 03:56:11,921
have you have to hire a company

3011
03:56:11,921 --> 03:56:14,857
to make sure you're not a leak

3012
03:56:14,857 --> 03:56:17,590
has this large amount it's

3013
03:56:17,590 --> 03:56:17,761
something major going on.

3014
03:56:17,761 --> 03:56:18,694
So I hired a company and they

3015
03:56:18,694 --> 03:56:21,431
came out and they did a leak.

3016
03:56:21,431 --> 03:56:24,701
Thank and they said there's no

3017
03:56:24,701 --> 03:56:27,603
leak here. So my son. He is

3018
03:56:27,603 --> 03:56:29,603
very on.

3019
03:56:29,872 --> 03:56:31,174
Handyman type and so he took

3020
03:56:31,174 --> 03:56:34,444
videos of with the time and the

3021
03:56:34,444 --> 03:56:38,644
date of a video with the meter

3022
03:56:40,683 --> 03:56:42,952
and it wasn't it wasn't running

3023
03:56:42,952 --> 03:56:43,587
so. Anyway, I

3024
03:56:43,587 --> 03:56:44,254
took all this stuff back.

3025
03:56:44,254 --> 03:56:46,622
And they said oh well we'll

3026
03:56:46,622 --> 03:56:49,622
give it to the Super.

3027
03:56:49,826 --> 03:56:50,627
Supervisor will.

3028
03:56:50,627 --> 03:56:51,928
Re correct it so today

3029
03:56:51,928 --> 03:56:54,798
I went down there because it

3030
03:56:54,798 --> 03:56:58,101
came back that I still owe this

3031
03:56:58,101 --> 03:57:01,337
money. And so she wouldn't let

3032
03:57:01,337 --> 03:57:02,839
me talk to a supervisor

3033
03:57:02,839 --> 03:57:03,773
and I am

3034
03:57:03,773 --> 03:57:04,440
was kinda you know, oh wow

3035
03:57:04,440 --> 03:57:07,377
that's how it is I said well

3036
03:57:07,377 --> 03:57:09,545
you tell me I to do this and I

3037
03:57:09,545 --> 03:57:11,945
did that. Oh wow

3038
03:57:12,414 --> 03:57:14,717
so she says if you want you can

3039
03:57:14,717 --> 03:57:16,552
write out something and they

3040
03:57:16,552 --> 03:57:17,286
will see. Take it back to the

3041
03:57:17,286 --> 03:57:19,555
supervisors so I wrote that but

3042
03:57:19,555 --> 03:57:20,289
I noticed that the address that

3043
03:57:20,289 --> 03:57:23,560
that was going to be sent to

3044
03:57:23,560 --> 03:57:26,729
was here and I had no idea this

3045
03:57:26,729 --> 03:57:27,830
was City Hall.

3046
03:57:27,830 --> 03:57:28,531
So I've Google had to get to

3047
03:57:28,531 --> 03:57:31,234
this place and it happened to

3048
03:57:31,234 --> 03:57:33,903
be you all were in the meeting

3049
03:57:33,903 --> 03:57:34,937
this morning down there and I

3050
03:57:34,937 --> 03:57:38,207
said oh GOD is putting me here

3051
03:57:38,207 --> 03:57:39,976
for a reason and I am in the

3052
03:57:39,976 --> 03:57:42,376
middle of having it.

3053
03:57:43,346 --> 03:57:44,447
And attack and so I really

3054
03:57:44,447 --> 03:57:47,817
should even be here. But I felt

3055
03:57:47,817 --> 03:57:50,987
that I need to comments and say

3056
03:57:50,987 --> 03:57:53,987
that this is not right

3057
03:57:54,958 --> 03:57:56,592
and the budgets, I'm noticing I

3058
03:57:56,592 --> 03:57:57,460
was a single mom and I own my

3059
03:57:57,460 --> 03:57:58,761
own small business and I had to

3060
03:57:58,761 --> 03:57:59,462
budget everything and I feel

3061
03:57:59,462 --> 03:58:02,699
like maybe the budgeting is it

3062
03:58:02,699 --> 03:58:04,200
right here because of the hike.

3063
03:58:04,200 --> 03:58:05,568
Hi

3064
03:58:05,568 --> 03:58:06,436
price that you want to add and

3065
03:58:06,436 --> 03:58:09,436
I think that the computer

3066
03:58:09,705 --> 03:58:12,942
system is wrong. I mean some

3067
03:58:12,942 --> 03:58:14,942
thank you.

3068
03:58:17,613 --> 03:58:18,581
>> Someone MISTER Schulte

3069
03:58:18,581 --> 03:58:19,315
talking about your it's you.

3070
03:58:19,315 --> 03:58:22,151
>> my name's Nathan Yang I love

3071
03:58:22,151 --> 03:58:25,321
it to answer 9 been you know a

3072
03:58:25,321 --> 03:58:27,321
self it states.

3073
03:58:28,424 --> 03:58:31,694
So I called a couple things I

3074
03:58:31,694 --> 03:58:34,694
think are hopeful of that

3075
03:58:34,997 --> 03:58:35,732
situation, I've also been a.

3076
03:58:35,732 --> 03:58:38,568
Water here later something like

3077
03:58:38,568 --> 03:58:40,235
$100 bill and I'm like oh my

3078
03:58:40,235 --> 03:58:42,235
gosh

3079
03:58:42,305 --> 03:58:45,574
it's from and paid the price

3080
03:58:45,574 --> 03:58:46,109
but I did see a recent Nielsen

3081
03:58:46,109 --> 03:58:46,809
says Analytics to do

3082
03:58:46,809 --> 03:58:47,510
automated metering of show you

3083
03:58:47,510 --> 03:58:48,978
which it brings a lot of hope

3084
03:58:48,978 --> 03:58:52,148
to the situation in terms of

3085
03:58:52,148 --> 03:58:55,148
visibility and usage and future

3086
03:58:55,418 --> 03:58:58,418
I've read studies that have

3087
03:58:58,621 --> 03:58:59,321
been suggested. Also notice

3088
03:58:59,321 --> 03:59:00,489
there is like a $40 million a

3089
03:59:00,489 --> 03:59:01,157
contract with nasa management

3090
03:59:01,157 --> 03:59:01,791
company which should bring a

3091
03:59:01,791 --> 03:59:04,260
lot of visibility into the

3092
03:59:04,260 --> 03:59:05,628
capital budget Capex

3093
03:59:05,628 --> 03:59:07,628
expenditures.

3094
03:59:08,263 --> 03:59:09,332
Coming up, especially when used

3095
03:59:09,332 --> 03:59:10,330
and that is used just for its I

3096
03:59:10,330 --> 03:59:13,330
think there's some good things

3097
03:59:13,360 --> 03:59:16,339
come in that have been moved

3098
03:59:16,339 --> 03:59:19,575
on. And I'd also like to.

3099
03:59:19,575 --> 03:59:21,711
You know given all the input

3100
03:59:21,711 --> 03:59:24,111
today advise maybe contacting

3101
03:59:24,981 --> 03:59:26,820
the Florida, rural water

3102
03:59:26,820 --> 03:59:26,782
Association.

3103
03:59:26,782 --> 03:59:27,517
St. Petersburg not necessarily

3104
03:59:27,517 --> 03:59:28,251
a rural community. They do have

3105
03:59:28,251 --> 03:59:30,687
asked management team that this

3106
03:59:30,687 --> 03:59:32,687
fiscal sustainability studies.

3107
03:59:33,856 --> 03:59:35,856
The requirements of.

3108
03:59:37,426 --> 03:59:39,826
Meaning the state revolving

3109
03:59:40,596 --> 03:59:42,596
fund choir months.

3110
03:59:43,666 --> 03:59:44,900
Adopted

3111
03:59:44,900 --> 03:59:46,836
by councils like yourself

3112
03:59:46,836 --> 03:59:48,504
across the state. Support in

3113
03:59:48,504 --> 03:59:51,504
the requests from the community

3114
03:59:51,741 --> 03:59:53,843
so its free resource on folks

3115
03:59:53,843 --> 03:59:55,843
are great.

3116
03:59:57,130 --> 03:59:58,248
I think it would bring some

3117
03:59:58,248 --> 03:59:58,981
additional support in addition

3118
03:59:58,981 --> 03:59:59,649
to the consultants forgetting a

3119
03:59:59,649 --> 04:00:02,351
third-party of has years of

3120
04:00:02,351 --> 04:00:05,321
experience in Italy. Doing that

3121
04:00:05,321 --> 04:00:08,321
and in helping the situation.

3122
04:00:08,758 --> 04:00:11,694
Thank you. Thank you. Sir.

3123
04:00:11,694 --> 04:00:13,762
More speakers years a case.

3124
04:00:13,762 --> 04:00:14,397
>> I could have to get good

3125
04:00:14,397 --> 04:00:15,640
evening. Lance. Well good

3126
04:00:15,640 --> 04:00:17,464
evening Council CHAIRMAN Of

3127
04:00:17,466 --> 04:00:20,466
education. I do have a

3128
04:00:20,636 --> 04:00:22,636
presentation m okay.

3129
04:00:24,707 --> 04:00:27,107
Good evening Council chair

3130
04:00:27,977 --> 04:00:29,411
members of Council when

3131
04:00:29,411 --> 04:00:30,113
Stanford

3132
04:00:30,113 --> 04:00:30,813
public works services manager,

3133
04:00:30,813 --> 04:00:31,548
I'd like to thank you for the

3134
04:00:31,548 --> 04:00:33,649
opportunity to bring for the fy

3135
04:00:33,649 --> 04:00:36,490
27 utility rates study program.

3136
04:00:37,153 --> 04:00:39,553
Throughout the program. The

3137
04:00:40,322 --> 04:00:40,990
mayor's vision and the

3138
04:00:40,990 --> 04:00:41,658
principles for

3139
04:00:41,658 --> 04:00:43,658
accountable and responsible

3140
04:00:44,594 --> 04:00:46,994
government where our guiding

3141
04:00:47,730 --> 04:00:49,332
principles throughout

3142
04:00:49,332 --> 04:00:49,999
this whole process. The rate

3143
04:00:49,999 --> 04:00:52,399
study program and objectives

3144
04:00:53,350 --> 04:00:54,136
throughout this process we want

3145
04:00:54,136 --> 04:00:54,803
to look at bouncing

3146
04:00:54,803 --> 04:00:56,803
affordability with long-term

3147
04:00:57,407 --> 04:00:58,941
sustainability ensuring revenue

3148
04:00:58,941 --> 04:00:59,609
sufficiency and financial

3149
04:00:59,609 --> 04:01:02,900
stability while funding the

3150
04:01:02,110 --> 04:01:02,612
infrastructure replacement and

3151
04:01:02,612 --> 04:01:04,612
resiliency improvements

3152
04:01:05,810 --> 04:01:06,716
systemwide maintaining strong

3153
04:01:06,716 --> 04:01:08,885
pay as you go funding strategy

3154
04:01:08,885 --> 04:01:09,451
and evaluate programs and

3155
04:01:09,451 --> 04:01:11,451
consider proportional

3156
04:01:12,540 --> 04:01:14,540
inequitable cost recovery.

3157
04:01:15,424 --> 04:01:16,759
You'll see in our rate studies

3158
04:01:16,759 --> 04:01:19,759
schedule. We started back in

3159
04:01:20,620 --> 04:01:21,597
JANUARY with a City Council one

3160
04:01:21,597 --> 04:01:23,332
on ones went through rate

3161
04:01:23,332 --> 04:01:24,200
study workshops Council budget

3162
04:01:24,200 --> 04:01:26,600
workshops and you're meeting

3163
04:01:27,170 --> 04:01:28,137
the the onus the culmination of

3164
04:01:28,137 --> 04:01:30,873
the rate study program that the

3165
04:01:30,873 --> 04:01:31,874
public hearings throughout that

3166
04:01:31,874 --> 04:01:34,274
process we've worked with

3167
04:01:34,711 --> 04:01:35,478
marketing and administration

3168
04:01:35,478 --> 04:01:37,878
has worked on the

3169
04:01:38,714 --> 04:01:39,616
communications campaign to

3170
04:01:39,616 --> 04:01:41,584
include bill billing

3171
04:01:41,584 --> 04:01:43,984
inserts social media posts

3172
04:01:44,854 --> 04:01:45,287
website updates advertisements

3173
04:01:45,287 --> 04:01:45,922
for the first

3174
04:01:45,922 --> 04:01:48,322
reading and public hearing

3175
04:01:48,691 --> 04:01:49,925
throughout the process to try

3176
04:01:49,925 --> 04:01:51,327
to help pass for the win.

3177
04:01:51,327 --> 04:01:54,327
They hold great study program

3178
04:01:54,597 --> 04:01:57,767
and the reasons behind the rate

3179
04:01:57,767 --> 04:01:59,736
study increases.

3180
04:01:59,736 --> 04:02:02,136
Various rate studying various

3181
04:02:02,605 --> 04:02:04,140
various different utility rates

3182
04:02:04,140 --> 04:02:04,907
would like to highlight

3183
04:02:04,907 --> 04:02:07,907
some program I tell any

3184
04:02:08,177 --> 04:02:08,844
highlights this here we'd like

3185
04:02:08,844 --> 04:02:09,712
to for the sanitation

3186
04:02:09,712 --> 04:02:11,712
utility program highlight.

3187
04:02:16,185 --> 04:02:17,353
The the continued investment in

3188
04:02:17,353 --> 04:02:20,623
the truck, the fleet for you

3189
04:02:20,623 --> 04:02:21,858
the sanitation still utility

3190
04:02:21,858 --> 04:02:24,159
program. And also highlight

3191
04:02:24,159 --> 04:02:26,559
a ever-increasing expense which

3192
04:02:26,662 --> 04:02:27,764
is the 8% annual rate increase

3193
04:02:27,764 --> 04:02:30,764
for the county tipping costs

3194
04:02:31,167 --> 04:02:33,567
which significantly impact the

3195
04:02:34,537 --> 04:02:36,505
sanitation utility budget.

3196
04:02:36,505 --> 04:02:37,606
The stormwater utility program

3197
04:02:37,606 --> 04:02:38,807
highlights, operationally

3198
04:02:38,807 --> 04:02:41,807
they've increased the number of

3199
04:02:42,780 --> 04:02:43,947
miles of stormwater pipes

3200
04:02:43,947 --> 04:02:44,813
culverts inspected

3201
04:02:44,813 --> 04:02:46,449
and maintain at to the fdp

3202
04:02:46,449 --> 04:02:49,418
reporting cycle to the ability

3203
04:02:49,418 --> 04:02:50,953
to hire more people and procure

3204
04:02:50,953 --> 04:02:51,654
more equipment since OCTOBER of

3205
04:02:51,654 --> 04:02:53,654
2025, we've replaced hundreds

3206
04:02:54,757 --> 04:02:55,758
of feet of stormwater pipes at

3207
04:02:55,758 --> 04:02:57,758
the end of

3208
04:02:58,494 --> 04:02:59,195
their life service life with

3209
04:02:59,195 --> 04:03:01,563
longer lasting material types

3210
04:03:01,563 --> 04:03:02,131
and the capital program would

3211
04:03:02,131 --> 04:03:04,670
like to highlight and

3212
04:03:04,670 --> 04:03:04,933
stormwater backflow prevention

3213
04:03:04,933 --> 04:03:07,333
program. The Bartlett Lake

3214
04:03:07,903 --> 04:03:08,771
restoration project. The

3215
04:03:08,771 --> 04:03:09,471
citywide stormwater can Vance

3216
04:03:09,471 --> 04:03:11,871
restoration program and major

3217
04:03:12,374 --> 04:03:14,774
storm water pump station

3218
04:03:15,100 --> 04:03:16,312
initiatives. And the

3219
04:03:16,312 --> 04:03:18,712
water resources utility would

3220
04:03:19,480 --> 04:03:19,715
like to highlight. The

3221
04:03:19,715 --> 04:03:20,349
Northwest water reclamation

3222
04:03:20,349 --> 04:03:22,349
improvements project which

3223
04:03:22,685 --> 04:03:23,553
included included new of

3224
04:03:23,553 --> 04:03:25,953
influence pump station and

3225
04:03:26,489 --> 04:03:27,590
reclaim storage tanks. The

3226
04:03:27,590 --> 04:03:29,892
flood protection projects that

3227
04:03:29,892 --> 04:03:30,526
lift station 85, Northeast

3228
04:03:30,526 --> 04:03:32,526
water reclamation facility

3229
04:03:33,296 --> 04:03:34,300
Southwest, raw water

3230
04:03:34,300 --> 04:03:35,310
reclamation

3231
04:03:35,310 --> 04:03:36,899
facility, another lift

3232
04:03:36,899 --> 04:03:37,667
stations. We broke down we

3233
04:03:37,667 --> 04:03:38,367
broke ground on the new

3234
04:03:38,367 --> 04:03:40,367
category 5 hurricane resistant

3235
04:03:41,270 --> 04:03:42,238
operations and maintenance

3236
04:03:42,238 --> 04:03:44,638
building at the Southwest

3237
04:03:44,874 --> 04:03:45,641
reclamation facility. And

3238
04:03:45,641 --> 04:03:47,641
providing much-needed repairs

3239
04:03:48,911 --> 04:03:52,181
at Cannes the cost of MAY.

3240
04:03:52,181 --> 04:03:54,181
Watery treatment plant.

3241
04:03:54,717 --> 04:03:56,717
Next few slides

3242
04:03:57,453 --> 04:03:59,880
here highlight some of the

3243
04:03:59,880 --> 04:04:00,189
proposed fy 27 utility rate

3244
04:04:00,189 --> 04:04:02,189
adjustments and potential

3245
04:04:03,250 --> 04:04:06,250
impacts on typical usage and

3246
04:04:06,950 --> 04:04:07,297
lower usage and high usage

3247
04:04:07,297 --> 04:04:07,964
builds on this slide here

3248
04:04:07,964 --> 04:04:10,964
you'll see that the proposed

3249
04:04:10,967 --> 04:04:13,367
utility rate adjustments for

3250
04:04:14,236 --> 04:04:16,172
potable water the 7.5%.

3251
04:04:16,172 --> 04:04:18,172
Wastewater 6.5%

3252
04:04:19,508 --> 04:04:21,508
stormwater 8.5% and sanitation

3253
04:04:22,745 --> 04:04:24,745
with recycling at 6.0%

3254
04:04:26,140 --> 04:04:28,414
with reclaim water at 9.7 5%.

3255
04:04:29,285 --> 04:04:31,530
The typical you know look low

3256
04:04:31,530 --> 04:04:31,687
usage monthly utility bill

3257
04:04:31,687 --> 04:04:34,687
with a tier one stormwater

3258
04:04:34,990 --> 04:04:37,390
charge. We'll see approximately

3259
04:04:37,393 --> 04:04:38,360
6.7 4% increase.

3260
04:04:38,360 --> 04:04:40,760
Without reclaimed water and

3261
04:04:41,631 --> 04:04:44,310
about a 7.5% increase with

3262
04:04:44,867 --> 04:04:46,867
reclaimed water.

3263
04:04:48,103 --> 04:04:48,571
The next typical usage

3264
04:04:48,571 --> 04:04:49,305
example here we

3265
04:04:49,305 --> 04:04:52,305
have was a tier 2 stormwater

3266
04:04:52,574 --> 04:04:53,576
charge where the typical bill

3267
04:04:53,576 --> 04:04:55,576
would see a

3268
04:04:56,979 --> 04:04:58,815
6.8 8% increase. Without

3269
04:04:58,815 --> 04:05:01,215
reclaimed water or a 7.4 8%

3270
04:05:01,784 --> 04:05:03,852
increase with reclaimed water.

3271
04:05:03,852 --> 04:05:06,255
This year's rates you'll see

3272
04:05:06,255 --> 04:05:09,255
are slightly lower than the

3273
04:05:09,525 --> 04:05:10,426
last year's projections of the

3274
04:05:10,426 --> 04:05:11,194
storm water and

3275
04:05:11,194 --> 04:05:12,600
water resources and sanitation

3276
04:05:12,600 --> 04:05:15,397
rates where last year the total

3277
04:05:15,397 --> 04:05:15,898
bill excluding the Klan water

3278
04:05:15,898 --> 04:05:17,990
was about 8.1 5%.

3279
04:05:17,990 --> 04:05:19,499
And the total including

3280
04:05:20,469 --> 04:05:22,869
reclaimed water was about 8.4

3281
04:05:23,500 --> 04:05:24,740
8%.

3282
04:05:24,740 --> 04:05:25,841
On the high usage monthly bill

3283
04:05:25,841 --> 04:05:28,841
with a tier 3 stormwater charge

3284
04:05:29,111 --> 04:05:31,647
the typical bill will see a 7%

3285
04:05:31,647 --> 04:05:32,849
increase for fiscal year 27

3286
04:05:32,849 --> 04:05:35,151
without reclaimed water and

3287
04:05:35,151 --> 04:05:37,551
with reclaimed water, the

3288
04:05:37,987 --> 04:05:38,654
typical below sea, a 7.4 7%

3289
04:05:38,654 --> 04:05:39,354
increase as compared to the

3290
04:05:39,354 --> 04:05:42,424
rate study last year where the

3291
04:05:42,424 --> 04:05:44,660
typical bill would have seen an

3292
04:05:44,660 --> 04:05:45,628
8.4 2% increase

3293
04:05:45,628 --> 04:05:48,280
without reclaimed water and

3294
04:05:48,898 --> 04:05:50,898
then 8.6 5% increase with

3295
04:05:52,340 --> 04:05:53,690
reclaimed water.

3296
04:05:53,690 --> 04:05:54,837
Finally the higher usage

3297
04:05:54,837 --> 04:05:55,905
bill and it here for stormwater

3298
04:05:55,905 --> 04:05:58,305
charge, the typical bill

3299
04:05:59,174 --> 04:06:00,760
excluding reclaimed water will

3300
04:06:00,760 --> 04:06:02,760
see a

3301
04:06:03,379 --> 04:06:04,580
7.1 0% increase and with

3302
04:06:04,580 --> 04:06:06,549
reclaimed water a

3303
04:06:06,549 --> 04:06:08,949
7.4 8% increase as compared to

3304
04:06:09,819 --> 04:06:12,455
the prior year's projection at

3305
04:06:12,455 --> 04:06:14,455
8.7 2% increase and an

3306
04:06:15,724 --> 04:06:16,692
8.8 7% increase. With that I'd

3307
04:06:16,692 --> 04:06:17,326
like to hand it off to

3308
04:06:17,326 --> 04:06:17,993
Andy Burnham partner with

3309
04:06:17,993 --> 04:06:20,993
stantec consulting to dive a

3310
04:06:21,297 --> 04:06:24,297
little bit more into the

3311
04:06:24,533 --> 04:06:26,533
details for you.

3312
04:06:27,536 --> 04:06:28,204
Thank you. Evening and thank

3313
04:06:28,204 --> 04:06:28,838
you it's good evening, MADAM

3314
04:06:28,838 --> 04:06:30,272
Chair members of Council.

3315
04:06:30,272 --> 04:06:30,973
Happy to fill in some of the

3316
04:06:30,973 --> 04:06:33,676
details that I think might be

3317
04:06:33,676 --> 04:06:34,376
again refresher for many of you

3318
04:06:34,376 --> 04:06:35,100
that have that participated in

3319
04:06:35,100 --> 04:06:35,678
the process that leads to

3320
04:06:35,678 --> 04:06:36,813
scribe throughout but needed

3321
04:06:36,813 --> 04:06:37,480
beneficial for the public to

3322
04:06:37,480 --> 04:06:40,116
help understand some of the

3323
04:06:40,116 --> 04:06:43,385
context of why we're looking at

3324
04:06:43,385 --> 04:06:44,530
utility rate adjustments for

3325
04:06:44,530 --> 04:06:44,720
the various systems. So for

3326
04:06:44,720 --> 04:06:45,788
starting with the sanitation

3327
04:06:45,788 --> 04:06:46,422
system. The city's annual

3328
04:06:46,422 --> 04:06:47,322
practices to look at their

3329
04:06:47,322 --> 04:06:50,293
financial futures part of the

3330
04:06:50,293 --> 04:06:50,893
budget process for these

3331
04:06:50,893 --> 04:06:51,560
utilities to measure the

3332
04:06:51,560 --> 04:06:54,196
adequacy of revenues to meet

3333
04:06:54,196 --> 04:06:54,697
expenses as part of that we're

3334
04:06:54,697 --> 04:06:55,431
able to reconcile

3335
04:06:55,431 --> 04:06:57,299
what's changed from one year to

3336
04:06:57,299 --> 04:06:58,167
the next these processes that

3337
04:06:58,167 --> 04:07:00,903
allow us to not only evaluate

3338
04:07:00,903 --> 04:07:01,770
the rates for the current year,

3339
04:07:01,770 --> 04:07:02,504
but about forecast for future

3340
04:07:02,504 --> 04:07:03,506
years and so I'll touch on some

3341
04:07:03,506 --> 04:07:05,174
of the variances in relation to

3342
04:07:05,174 --> 04:07:07,574
last year's forecast of

3343
04:07:07,810 --> 04:07:09,311
expenses that we're seeing in

3344
04:07:09,311 --> 04:07:10,790
this current year and in this

3345
04:07:10,790 --> 04:07:12,479
raid evaluation. Overall for

3346
04:07:12,715 --> 04:07:13,315
sanitation operational spending

3347
04:07:13,315 --> 04:07:15,684
we're seeing some of the

3348
04:07:15,684 --> 04:07:16,318
benefits and the investment of

3349
04:07:16,318 --> 04:07:17,190
the new facility that we

3350
04:07:17,190 --> 04:07:18,721
recently financed with that we

3351
04:07:18,721 --> 04:07:20,690
actually have some savings on

3352
04:07:20,690 --> 04:07:21,357
our operating expenses relative

3353
04:07:21,357 --> 04:07:23,757
to demolition of structures

3354
04:07:24,259 --> 04:07:25,761
engineering and facility

3355
04:07:25,761 --> 04:07:26,395
repairs and

3356
04:07:26,395 --> 04:07:27,290
renovations we're seeing a

3357
04:07:27,290 --> 04:07:28,697
return on that investment.

3358
04:07:28,697 --> 04:07:30,299
However us Lance mentioned with

3359
04:07:30,299 --> 04:07:33,268
sanitation we do have to take

3360
04:07:33,268 --> 04:07:33,936
our solid waste to the county

3361
04:07:33,936 --> 04:07:35,137
landfill for disposal for

3362
04:07:35,137 --> 04:07:36,772
proper disposal. That's not

3363
04:07:36,772 --> 04:07:39,642
something that we have control

3364
04:07:39,642 --> 04:07:40,275
over in terms of the costs that

3365
04:07:40,275 --> 04:07:40,976
we're charge from Pinellas

3366
04:07:40,976 --> 04:07:42,344
County for that disposal rate.

3367
04:07:42,344 --> 04:07:43,546
They have approved increases of

3368
04:07:43,546 --> 04:07:45,648
8% per year for the next couple

3369
04:07:45,648 --> 04:07:48,817
of years in of giving guidance

3370
04:07:48,817 --> 04:07:49,785
to expect similar levels of

3371
04:07:49,785 --> 04:07:50,419
increases going forward for

3372
04:07:50,419 --> 04:07:51,320
disposal costs. This is a

3373
04:07:51,320 --> 04:07:54,320
pretty significant part of our

3374
04:07:54,390 --> 04:07:55,570
expenses for these disposal

3375
04:07:55,570 --> 04:07:57,226
costs for these tipping fees

3376
04:07:57,226 --> 04:07:57,926
that's really not within our

3377
04:07:57,926 --> 04:07:58,627
control. The other major cost

3378
04:07:58,627 --> 04:08:00,620
consideration that we have for

3379
04:08:00,620 --> 04:08:02,462
sanitation is relative to

3380
04:08:02,698 --> 04:08:05,980
capital expenses and for

3381
04:08:05,568 --> 04:08:06,268
sanitation that really means

3382
04:08:06,268 --> 04:08:06,969
replacement of containers for

3383
04:08:06,969 --> 04:08:09,905
residents is in for businesses

3384
04:08:09,905 --> 04:08:10,639
the dumpsters. But then also

3385
04:08:10,639 --> 04:08:12,875
vehicle replacements that's the

3386
04:08:12,875 --> 04:08:13,508
fleet that goes out and collect

3387
04:08:13,508 --> 04:08:14,844
all of the the garbage and

3388
04:08:14,844 --> 04:08:15,544
recycling within the community.

3389
04:08:15,544 --> 04:08:17,944
Those expenses are comparable

3390
04:08:18,130 --> 04:08:19,982
to what we're looking at last

3391
04:08:19,982 --> 04:08:20,716
year on an annualized basis in

3392
04:08:20,716 --> 04:08:22,385
total. But they're still a very

3393
04:08:22,385 --> 04:08:24,785
significant component of what

3394
04:08:25,354 --> 04:08:25,988
we have to plan for for the

3395
04:08:25,988 --> 04:08:28,190
utility going forward. And

3396
04:08:28,190 --> 04:08:29,291
specifically on the fleet.

3397
04:08:29,291 --> 04:08:29,926
It's probably one of the most

3398
04:08:29,926 --> 04:08:30,826
important assumptions and

3399
04:08:30,826 --> 04:08:32,826
replacement considerations that

3400
04:08:33,428 --> 04:08:36,298
we have to make for sanitation

3401
04:08:36,298 --> 04:08:37,330
is to make sure we have

3402
04:08:37,330 --> 04:08:39,969
adequate funding to replace our

3403
04:08:39,969 --> 04:08:41,103
extensive fleet of vehicles, a

3404
04:08:41,103 --> 04:08:42,710
123 trucks. Each of which has

3405
04:08:42,710 --> 04:08:43,172
different useful lives based

3406
04:08:43,172 --> 04:08:46,172
upon their purpose and there's

3407
04:08:46,242 --> 04:08:46,775
good industry guidance about

3408
04:08:46,775 --> 04:08:48,444
when those types of

3409
04:08:48,444 --> 04:08:49,144
infrastructures can and should

3410
04:08:49,144 --> 04:08:49,878
be replaced. However that has

3411
04:08:49,878 --> 04:08:52,348
to be customized to reflect our

3412
04:08:52,348 --> 04:08:54,217
environment and kudos to the

3413
04:08:54,217 --> 04:08:54,917
sanitation team for really

3414
04:08:54,917 --> 04:08:57,520
adapting a proactive approach

3415
04:08:57,520 --> 04:08:57,753
to try to stay on life cycles

3416
04:08:57,753 --> 04:09:01,230
for this equipment in an urban

3417
04:09:01,230 --> 04:09:01,691
environment for these vehicles

3418
04:09:01,691 --> 04:09:02,425
take on a lot more wear and

3419
04:09:02,425 --> 04:09:05,294
tear particularly the front and

3420
04:09:05,294 --> 04:09:05,994
side load or so we have a more

3421
04:09:05,994 --> 04:09:06,628
frequent replacement scheduled

3422
04:09:06,628 --> 04:09:07,362
and you MAY see across the

3423
04:09:07,362 --> 04:09:09,498
national average. But we are in

3424
04:09:09,498 --> 04:09:11,500
an urban environment and that's

3425
04:09:11,500 --> 04:09:14,670
to be expected. But us about

3426
04:09:14,670 --> 04:09:15,270
million of investment in our

3427
04:09:15,270 --> 04:09:15,871
fleet that we need to do

3428
04:09:15,871 --> 04:09:16,738
to make sure that we can

3429
04:09:16,738 --> 04:09:17,439
collect the garbage and

3430
04:09:17,439 --> 04:09:19,839
recycling within the community

3431
04:09:20,475 --> 04:09:22,100
for residents and businesses

3432
04:09:22,100 --> 04:09:22,711
alike. So the

3433
04:09:22,711 --> 04:09:23,646
financial plan that we look at

3434
04:09:23,646 --> 04:09:27,490
as I mentioned prior year study

3435
04:09:27,490 --> 04:09:29,985
last year the forecast was 7% a

3436
04:09:29,985 --> 04:09:31,954
year for 3 years followed by

3437
04:09:31,954 --> 04:09:32,821
4.7 5% per year. However with

3438
04:09:32,821 --> 04:09:33,823
some of our recent positive

3439
04:09:33,823 --> 04:09:34,490
performance, it creates an

3440
04:09:34,490 --> 04:09:36,890
opportunity to smooth those

3441
04:09:37,493 --> 04:09:38,827
increases of that level lies

3442
04:09:38,827 --> 04:09:39,494
the rate plan to 6% per year.

3443
04:09:39,494 --> 04:09:42,264
I think this is part of the

3444
04:09:42,264 --> 04:09:42,831
conversation in context that's

3445
04:09:42,831 --> 04:09:43,566
beneficial for all to

3446
04:09:43,566 --> 04:09:46,268
appreciate is that the city has

3447
04:09:46,268 --> 04:09:46,668
long taken an approach of

3448
04:09:46,668 --> 04:09:47,303
trying to do

3449
04:09:47,303 --> 04:09:48,370
smaller more frequent rate

3450
04:09:48,370 --> 04:09:50,206
adjustments as opposed to going

3451
04:09:50,206 --> 04:09:52,606
multiple years without rate

3452
04:09:53,276 --> 04:09:53,976
increases and then doing very

3453
04:09:53,976 --> 04:09:56,245
large adjustments. That's been

3454
04:09:56,245 --> 04:09:57,112
a recent practice that's tried

3455
04:09:57,112 --> 04:09:59,314
to follow that principle of us

3456
04:09:59,314 --> 04:09:59,949
you know smaller and slow and

3457
04:09:59,949 --> 04:10:00,616
steady wins the race to be

3458
04:10:00,616 --> 04:10:03,160
consistent with our planning

3459
04:10:03,753 --> 04:10:04,386
process process for investments

3460
04:10:04,386 --> 04:10:05,420
in our infrastructure. So

3461
04:10:05,420 --> 04:10:06,880
the plan now is a little bit

3462
04:10:06,880 --> 04:10:08,290
more modest than what it was

3463
04:10:08,290 --> 04:10:08,958
looking at last year for this

3464
04:10:08,958 --> 04:10:11,993
year as well as for the next

3465
04:10:11,993 --> 04:10:12,628
couple of years as things are

3466
04:10:12,628 --> 04:10:13,195
tracking pretty well we're

3467
04:10:13,195 --> 04:10:13,929
seeing slightly better

3468
04:10:13,929 --> 04:10:16,498
performance. What this means on

3469
04:10:16,498 --> 04:10:18,334
a typical bill for the garbage

3470
04:10:18,334 --> 04:10:18,968
component is about $2 a little

3471
04:10:18,968 --> 04:10:21,170
less than that and for the

3472
04:10:21,170 --> 04:10:22,170
recycling components built

3473
04:10:22,170 --> 04:10:23,139
about $0.25 a typical

3474
04:10:23,139 --> 04:10:24,907
residential bill. However the

3475
04:10:24,907 --> 04:10:25,674
practice that I mentioned has

3476
04:10:25,674 --> 04:10:26,641
not always been in place for

3477
04:10:26,641 --> 04:10:29,378
the sanitation system. So if

3478
04:10:29,378 --> 04:10:30,378
you look back through history

3479
04:10:30,378 --> 04:10:31,446
and there's been some history

3480
04:10:31,446 --> 04:10:33,549
referenced here today. There

3481
04:10:33,549 --> 04:10:36,549
are extended periods of times

3482
04:10:36,619 --> 04:10:37,286
from 1988 to 2005 where there

3483
04:10:37,286 --> 04:10:38,253
are no adjustments and rates

3484
04:10:38,253 --> 04:10:40,322
actually there was a small

3485
04:10:40,322 --> 04:10:41,623
decrease and then again from 30

3486
04:10:41,623 --> 04:10:44,623
to 38 where there are no

3487
04:10:44,893 --> 04:10:46,128
adjustments and sanitation If

3488
04:10:46,128 --> 04:10:46,828
you look at this

3489
04:10:46,828 --> 04:10:47,763
approximately 36 year history,

3490
04:10:47,763 --> 04:10:50,733
a 30 year history for 27 years

3491
04:10:50,733 --> 04:10:51,600
for sanitation rates want to

3492
04:10:51,600 --> 04:10:52,301
just and so keeping that in

3493
04:10:52,301 --> 04:10:53,235
mind. You know we're trying to

3494
04:10:53,235 --> 04:10:55,635
follow approach consistent with

3495
04:10:56,405 --> 04:10:57,720
the recent years where we stay

3496
04:10:57,720 --> 04:11:00,420
on top of our expenses cover

3497
04:11:00,420 --> 04:11:00,675
inflation which has hit the

3498
04:11:00,675 --> 04:11:01,443
vehicle, stay current with

3499
04:11:01,443 --> 04:11:02,110
tipping 3 increases that are

3500
04:11:02,110 --> 04:11:02,844
coming from the county we're

3501
04:11:02,844 --> 04:11:03,946
really trying to make sure that

3502
04:11:03,946 --> 04:11:06,346
we're having revenues match

3503
04:11:07,216 --> 04:11:09,518
expenses each year for the

3504
04:11:09,518 --> 04:11:10,519
system no more no less.

3505
04:11:10,519 --> 04:11:11,520
Relative to the stormwater

3506
04:11:11,520 --> 04:11:13,489
program. Some of the changes in

3507
04:11:13,489 --> 04:11:14,890
key drivers that we're seeing

3508
04:11:14,890 --> 04:11:16,489
this year operations and

3509
04:11:16,992 --> 04:11:17,393
maintenance spending is is very

3510
04:11:17,393 --> 04:11:18,940
much in line

3511
04:11:18,940 --> 04:11:20,996
with past projections in fact,

3512
04:11:20,996 --> 04:11:21,997
just on a $100,000 larger than

3513
04:11:21,997 --> 04:11:22,865
last year so it's well within

3514
04:11:22,865 --> 04:11:25,265
projections. But the capital

3515
04:11:25,834 --> 04:11:27,470
program continues to be the

3516
04:11:27,470 --> 04:11:28,204
topic of conversation for storm

3517
04:11:28,204 --> 04:11:30,390
water so this fund historically

3518
04:11:30,390 --> 04:11:32,941
only funded about a million to

3519
04:11:32,941 --> 04:11:33,608
million a year of capital and

3520
04:11:33,608 --> 04:11:34,176
with the recent master plan

3521
04:11:34,176 --> 04:11:34,810
that was completed. It

3522
04:11:34,810 --> 04:11:37,210
indicated, we should be

3523
04:11:37,213 --> 04:11:40,213
spending more along the lines

3524
04:11:40,482 --> 04:11:41,150
of about million a year on

3525
04:11:41,150 --> 04:11:42,251
capital so we're on track to

3526
04:11:42,251 --> 04:11:44,753
hit that goal by 2031 presently

3527
04:11:44,753 --> 04:11:45,421
we're in that approximately

3528
04:11:45,421 --> 04:11:47,590
million range of spending so

3529
04:11:47,590 --> 04:11:48,456
we've made good progress.

3530
04:11:48,456 --> 04:11:49,910
But this is part of the reason

3531
04:11:49,910 --> 04:11:51,327
why we're talking about a

3532
04:11:51,327 --> 04:11:52,940
program of continued

3533
04:11:52,940 --> 04:11:52,661
adjustments for storm waters to

3534
04:11:52,661 --> 04:11:54,661
really address proper

3535
04:11:56,310 --> 04:11:56,565
investment needs for the

3536
04:11:56,565 --> 04:11:57,767
infrastructure

3537
04:11:57,767 --> 04:12:01,360
that we have for the stormwater

3538
04:12:01,360 --> 04:12:01,536
system. So as we take a look at

3539
04:12:01,536 --> 04:12:02,204
the forecast this

3540
04:12:02,204 --> 04:12:03,238
is where with those needs in

3541
04:12:03,238 --> 04:12:05,638
mind considerations were given

3542
04:12:06,208 --> 04:12:07,175
to how we finance those

3543
04:12:07,175 --> 04:12:08,430
projects and how we fund them

3544
04:12:08,430 --> 04:12:10,379
and so considering that the

3545
04:12:10,379 --> 04:12:13,379
prior rate study the forecast

3546
04:12:13,649 --> 04:12:14,116
was a 15% followed by 4%

3547
04:12:14,116 --> 04:12:15,150
increases. This

3548
04:12:15,150 --> 04:12:16,352
year given affordability

3549
04:12:16,352 --> 04:12:16,885
considerations and alternative

3550
04:12:16,885 --> 04:12:18,885
approach to funding

3551
04:12:19,655 --> 04:12:20,422
infrastructure was looked at

3552
04:12:20,422 --> 04:12:21,490
for a period of time or we

3553
04:12:21,490 --> 04:12:22,391
would fund more with debt.

3554
04:12:22,391 --> 04:12:24,126
That means we will pay more

3555
04:12:24,126 --> 04:12:26,995
interest in the long run about

3556
04:12:26,995 --> 04:12:27,963
million more of interest as the

3557
04:12:27,963 --> 04:12:28,930
approximation of that based on

3558
04:12:28,930 --> 04:12:31,930
the current capital plan but

3559
04:12:32,000 --> 04:12:32,768
funding more with that now

3560
04:12:32,768 --> 04:12:33,768
allows us to have a more stable

3561
04:12:33,768 --> 04:12:36,605
and smooth that rate plan than

3562
04:12:36,605 --> 04:12:37,472
it otherwise would if we didn't

3563
04:12:37,472 --> 04:12:40,743
we would have to have the

3564
04:12:40,743 --> 04:12:41,110
higher rate shown previously

3565
04:12:41,110 --> 04:12:42,945
with a 15%

3566
04:12:42,945 --> 04:12:43,645
increase as shown for 27, so

3567
04:12:43,645 --> 04:12:44,379
this is an approach that was a

3568
04:12:44,379 --> 04:12:47,490
value added and recommended and

3569
04:12:47,490 --> 04:12:49,417
considered really how do we pay

3570
04:12:49,417 --> 04:12:51,417
for infrastructure. They're

3571
04:12:52,254 --> 04:12:52,955
contemplating recognize that

3572
04:12:52,955 --> 04:12:55,423
some of the even extend beyond

3573
04:12:55,423 --> 04:12:56,291
the term of what we can finance

3574
04:12:56,291 --> 04:12:57,392
it so taking on a little bit

3575
04:12:57,392 --> 04:12:58,930
more debt for storm water feels

3576
04:12:58,930 --> 04:13:01,930
a little bit more comfortable

3577
04:13:01,230 --> 04:13:02,297
with knowing that in mind that

3578
04:13:02,297 --> 04:13:04,650
we're not outpacing our assets

3579
04:13:04,650 --> 04:13:05,340
with debt financing and it's a

3580
04:13:05,340 --> 04:13:06,340
way to also address

3581
04:13:06,340 --> 04:13:06,768
affordability and to moderate

3582
04:13:06,768 --> 04:13:07,502
the rate increases to an extent

3583
04:13:07,502 --> 04:13:09,902
without compromising the needed

3584
04:13:10,505 --> 04:13:11,607
investment in the system that

3585
04:13:11,607 --> 04:13:14,700
we have to have.

3586
04:13:15,430 --> 04:13:15,644
The storm water history has a

3587
04:13:15,644 --> 04:13:16,344
bit of a checkered past

3588
04:13:16,344 --> 04:13:19,548
to similar to sanitation to a

3589
04:13:19,548 --> 04:13:21,160
degree. I think when he was

3590
04:13:21,160 --> 04:13:22,751
first adopted and circa 1990.

3591
04:13:22,751 --> 04:13:24,185
It was an adjusted for the

3592
04:13:24,185 --> 04:13:27,185
first 10 or 11 years. And then

3593
04:13:27,356 --> 04:13:28,560
there was also a period from 30

3594
04:13:28,560 --> 04:13:30,959
to 36 which it was also again

3595
04:13:30,959 --> 04:13:31,527
not adjusted. However with the

3596
04:13:31,527 --> 04:13:32,294
storms and things that

3597
04:13:32,294 --> 04:13:33,495
happened in the 37 time period.

3598
04:13:33,495 --> 04:13:34,362
It's been on a plan of trying

3599
04:13:34,362 --> 04:13:37,362
to address that capital needs

3600
04:13:37,432 --> 04:13:38,500
and really move it from funding

3601
04:13:38,500 --> 04:13:40,135
again a very nominal amount of

3602
04:13:40,135 --> 04:13:43,138
capital to more along the lines

3603
04:13:43,138 --> 04:13:43,839
of what's the needed

3604
04:13:43,839 --> 04:13:44,339
reinvestment rates for them to

3605
04:13:44,339 --> 04:13:45,730
to to storm water

3606
04:13:45,730 --> 04:13:46,941
infrastructure that we have and

3607
04:13:46,941 --> 04:13:47,809
so we're making good progress

3608
04:13:47,809 --> 04:13:48,476
on that journey but there's

3609
04:13:48,476 --> 04:13:49,778
still more steps to be done.

3610
04:13:49,778 --> 04:13:50,745
It hasn't been done all at once

3611
04:13:50,745 --> 04:13:51,413
it's been trying to be phased

3612
04:13:51,413 --> 04:13:54,413
in over a reasonable manner

3613
04:13:54,449 --> 04:13:56,449
balancing affordability

3614
04:13:56,785 --> 04:13:58,785
considerations.

3615
04:13:59,721 --> 04:14:01,589
And lastly relative to water

3616
04:14:01,589 --> 04:14:03,558
resources. This particular fund

3617
04:14:03,558 --> 04:14:04,225
that the key drivers. We did

3618
04:14:04,225 --> 04:14:06,528
see increases and personnel

3619
04:14:06,528 --> 04:14:07,396
services costs and salaries and

3620
04:14:07,396 --> 04:14:08,163
wages, but they're within

3621
04:14:08,163 --> 04:14:08,931
expectations from last year.

3622
04:14:08,931 --> 04:14:11,900
We did see flat operations and

3623
04:14:11,900 --> 04:14:12,868
maintenance expenses which is

3624
04:14:12,868 --> 04:14:15,868
actually very helpful in this

3625
04:14:16,238 --> 04:14:17,873
context. Similarly the capital

3626
04:14:17,873 --> 04:14:18,540
spending water

3627
04:14:18,540 --> 04:14:20,308
and sewer systems by nature

3628
04:14:20,308 --> 04:14:21,176
credibly infrastructure,

3629
04:14:21,176 --> 04:14:23,576
intensive said the 5 year

3630
04:14:24,146 --> 04:14:25,213
capital plan for this fund is

3631
04:14:25,213 --> 04:14:28,483
on the order of magnitude of on

3632
04:14:28,483 --> 04:14:28,950
the $700 million so we're at 66

3633
04:14:28,950 --> 04:14:29,818
last year now

3634
04:14:29,818 --> 04:14:31,353
it's 6.96. It's very

3635
04:14:31,353 --> 04:14:32,200
comparable. We are seeing a

3636
04:14:32,200 --> 04:14:34,323
little bit of a dip in rate

3637
04:14:34,323 --> 04:14:34,990
revenues compared to last

3638
04:14:34,990 --> 04:14:36,158
year's forecast that will be

3639
04:14:36,158 --> 04:14:37,259
something to look into this

3640
04:14:37,259 --> 04:14:38,260
next year to make sure that we

3641
04:14:38,260 --> 04:14:40,662
have a lot of the issues that

3642
04:14:40,662 --> 04:14:41,329
you might be hearing about now

3643
04:14:41,329 --> 04:14:42,630
fully addressed and that we

3644
04:14:42,630 --> 04:14:45,630
have good billing procedures in

3645
04:14:45,234 --> 04:14:47,102
place. And capture that and

3646
04:14:47,102 --> 04:14:47,803
future forecasts.

3647
04:14:47,803 --> 04:14:48,470
But within the water financial

3648
04:14:48,470 --> 04:14:50,839
plan there were a number of

3649
04:14:50,839 --> 04:14:51,540
things that were looked at and

3650
04:14:51,540 --> 04:14:52,207
I think that speaks to some of

3651
04:14:52,207 --> 04:14:54,976
the questions too about what

3652
04:14:54,976 --> 04:14:56,278
did you look at as part of the

3653
04:14:56,278 --> 04:14:57,379
process that you can do to

3654
04:14:57,379 --> 04:14:58,580
try to optimize the system so

3655
04:14:58,580 --> 04:15:01,216
one of the things that staff

3656
04:15:01,216 --> 04:15:04,216
was famously successful for was

3657
04:15:04,286 --> 04:15:07,220
securing a state revolving fund

3658
04:15:07,220 --> 04:15:07,656
loan program that included a

3659
04:15:07,656 --> 04:15:08,957
50% principal forgiveness.

3660
04:15:08,957 --> 04:15:09,858
So that means it's basically a

3661
04:15:09,858 --> 04:15:12,858
grant for half of that $40.7

3662
04:15:13,161 --> 04:15:13,695
million. And the remaining 50%.

3663
04:15:13,695 --> 04:15:15,695
We received the

3664
04:15:16,965 --> 04:15:18,933
financing of 0% interest rate.

3665
04:15:18,933 --> 04:15:19,701
So it's basically

3666
04:15:19,701 --> 04:15:21,300
one of the most advantageous

3667
04:15:21,300 --> 04:15:23,403
programs you could possibly

3668
04:15:23,404 --> 04:15:26,808
find and we secure that for $40

3669
04:15:26,808 --> 04:15:27,409
million of infrastructure which

3670
04:15:27,409 --> 04:15:28,110
is fantastic. We haven't

3671
04:15:28,110 --> 04:15:30,846
factored into any of these

3672
04:15:30,846 --> 04:15:31,513
financial plans. Any of the

3673
04:15:31,513 --> 04:15:32,247
Saint Pete at our resilience

3674
04:15:32,247 --> 04:15:33,915
program costs that's a decision

3675
04:15:33,915 --> 04:15:34,783
that's you know to be made at

3676
04:15:34,783 --> 04:15:35,450
the ballots coming here in

3677
04:15:35,450 --> 04:15:38,420
NOVEMBER. But we did look at

3678
04:15:38,420 --> 04:15:38,987
other various programs as part

3679
04:15:38,987 --> 04:15:40,550
of this to try to find

3680
04:15:40,550 --> 04:15:41,122
ways to make the system more

3681
04:15:41,122 --> 04:15:42,123
efficient such as with fat oils

3682
04:15:42,123 --> 04:15:45,600
and grease programs to look at

3683
04:15:45,600 --> 04:15:45,761
how we could deploy or

3684
04:15:45,761 --> 04:15:47,596
inspectors to actually enhance

3685
04:15:47,596 --> 04:15:48,297
service to customers as opposed

3686
04:15:48,297 --> 04:15:50,866
to having procedures that were

3687
04:15:50,866 --> 04:15:51,733
challenging and and trying to

3688
04:15:51,733 --> 04:15:53,368
chase down fees that were hard

3689
04:15:53,368 --> 04:15:56,238
to collect and allowing the

3690
04:15:56,238 --> 04:15:57,105
program to actually spread to a

3691
04:15:57,105 --> 04:15:58,730
wider benefit for the benefit

3692
04:15:58,730 --> 04:16:00,275
of all customers. We also

3693
04:16:00,275 --> 04:16:01,142
looked at things like dedicated

3694
04:16:01,142 --> 04:16:01,844
fire service lines for

3695
04:16:01,844 --> 04:16:04,212
properties that have dedicated

3696
04:16:04,212 --> 04:16:05,800
sprinkler systems to make sure

3697
04:16:05,800 --> 04:16:07,816
that those standby rates were

3698
04:16:07,816 --> 04:16:08,517
set fairly for that additional

3699
04:16:08,517 --> 04:16:10,917
capacity that some businesses

3700
04:16:10,986 --> 04:16:11,853
and multi-family structures

3701
04:16:11,853 --> 04:16:13,855
require. We also looked at

3702
04:16:13,855 --> 04:16:14,523
updating. The wastewater

3703
04:16:14,523 --> 04:16:15,691
capacity fee this is the fee

3704
04:16:15,691 --> 04:16:16,858
that's applied to new

3705
04:16:16,858 --> 04:16:19,527
development to make sure that

3706
04:16:19,527 --> 04:16:20,628
it was fully reflecting the

3707
04:16:20,628 --> 04:16:21,496
unit cost of capacity to serve

3708
04:16:21,496 --> 04:16:22,764
new development. So that

3709
04:16:22,764 --> 04:16:25,164
doesn't affect all customers,

3710
04:16:25,434 --> 04:16:26,301
this is for when we have growth

3711
04:16:26,301 --> 04:16:28,169
the redevelopment that requires

3712
04:16:28,169 --> 04:16:30,138
additional demands. They pay a

3713
04:16:30,138 --> 04:16:30,772
higher fee because that

3714
04:16:30,772 --> 04:16:32,974
capacity has a cost and so

3715
04:16:32,974 --> 04:16:34,409
they're contributing their fair

3716
04:16:34,409 --> 04:16:35,844
share through this type of a

3717
04:16:35,844 --> 04:16:36,545
process. So we looked at a

3718
04:16:36,545 --> 04:16:38,945
number of mechanisms included

3719
04:16:39,140 --> 04:16:40,810
the continued use of penny for

3720
04:16:40,810 --> 04:16:42,951
Pinellas funding for part of

3721
04:16:42,951 --> 04:16:43,685
the infrastructure. This is all

3722
04:16:43,685 --> 04:16:44,319
part of a multifaceted approach

3723
04:16:44,319 --> 04:16:45,200
and financial plan that's

3724
04:16:45,200 --> 04:16:47,222
trying to really make sure we

3725
04:16:47,222 --> 04:16:48,900
from the infrastructure needs

3726
04:16:48,900 --> 04:16:49,291
that have been defined for the

3727
04:16:49,291 --> 04:16:50,258
system but do so in the fairest

3728
04:16:50,258 --> 04:16:53,258
way possible and leverages all

3729
04:16:53,528 --> 04:16:55,730
possible funding sources that

3730
04:16:55,730 --> 04:16:56,931
we can we know we have them.

3731
04:16:56,931 --> 04:16:58,133
So as we look at the water

3732
04:16:58,133 --> 04:17:01,133
system financial plan this is

3733
04:17:01,203 --> 04:17:01,937
very comparable to the prior

3734
04:17:01,937 --> 04:17:03,172
year forecast from last year in

3735
04:17:03,172 --> 04:17:04,380
terms of the overall increase.

3736
04:17:04,380 --> 04:17:05,473
Each year as we go through the

3737
04:17:05,473 --> 04:17:06,175
process it's in that to make

3738
04:17:06,175 --> 04:17:08,109
sure that we fairly apportion

3739
04:17:08,109 --> 04:17:08,810
the increase for water

3740
04:17:08,810 --> 04:17:11,210
resources between water sewer

3741
04:17:12,130 --> 04:17:12,580
and reclaimed, so while this

3742
04:17:12,580 --> 04:17:13,348
year

3743
04:17:13,348 --> 04:17:15,748
the distribution of increases

3744
04:17:16,718 --> 04:17:18,152
reflects the different increase

3745
04:17:18,152 --> 04:17:18,854
for reclaimed a 9.7 5%

3746
04:17:18,854 --> 04:17:21,254
future years these assumptions

3747
04:17:22,190 --> 04:17:22,657
are applied across the board to

3748
04:17:22,657 --> 04:17:23,725
all 3 services

3749
04:17:23,725 --> 04:17:26,725
for water sewer and reclaimed.

3750
04:17:27,161 --> 04:17:27,863
But again you can see that the

3751
04:17:27,863 --> 04:17:28,530
general impact on the utility

3752
04:17:28,530 --> 04:17:29,864
bill here and Lance Winthrop

3753
04:17:29,864 --> 04:17:32,264
more specifically with some

3754
04:17:33,134 --> 04:17:34,803
different usage types and Bill

3755
04:17:34,803 --> 04:17:35,870
examples so try to

3756
04:17:35,870 --> 04:17:39,140
I try to make it evaluated from

3757
04:17:39,140 --> 04:17:39,674
a lot in the pocket perspective

3758
04:17:39,674 --> 04:17:40,375
in terms of what is

3759
04:17:40,375 --> 04:17:41,420
this dollar impact really on a

3760
04:17:41,420 --> 04:17:43,745
monthly basis. Just want to

3761
04:17:43,745 --> 04:17:44,646
touch on to these points a

3762
04:17:44,646 --> 04:17:46,614
little bit further with the

3763
04:17:46,614 --> 04:17:47,315
waste water capacity fee.

3764
04:17:47,315 --> 04:17:48,350
Just as a reminder. This is a

3765
04:17:48,350 --> 04:17:50,852
fee that's applied to new

3766
04:17:50,852 --> 04:17:51,519
development and redevelopment

3767
04:17:51,519 --> 04:17:53,919
only not existing customers.

3768
04:17:54,656 --> 04:17:55,189
And this had a history of being

3769
04:17:55,189 --> 04:17:56,458
looked at in 24 for

3770
04:17:56,458 --> 04:17:58,427
the first time in a number of

3771
04:17:58,427 --> 04:17:59,161
years and it had a phase in

3772
04:17:59,161 --> 04:17:59,794
plan was developed and that's

3773
04:17:59,794 --> 04:18:01,929
been revisited to kind of

3774
04:18:01,929 --> 04:18:03,929
accelerate the implementation

3775
04:18:04,332 --> 04:18:06,670
of this feat a full cost

3776
04:18:06,670 --> 04:18:07,690
recovery and consistent with

3777
04:18:07,690 --> 04:18:07,769
conversations last year we

3778
04:18:07,769 --> 04:18:10,500
re-evaluated that this year to

3779
04:18:10,500 --> 04:18:11,306
make sure it's reflecting our

3780
04:18:11,306 --> 04:18:12,307
current cost of capital which

3781
04:18:12,307 --> 04:18:13,842
continues to rise. And so the

3782
04:18:13,842 --> 04:18:16,144
recommendation this year is to

3783
04:18:16,144 --> 04:18:17,120
move the feet from the $1000 to

3784
04:18:17,120 --> 04:18:17,679
the 1700 to be based on the

3785
04:18:17,679 --> 04:18:20,549
current cost of capacity is

3786
04:18:20,549 --> 04:18:20,948
that we've calculated that this

3787
04:18:20,948 --> 04:18:22,948
year.

3788
04:18:24,119 --> 04:18:25,860
And the other one I touched on

3789
04:18:25,860 --> 04:18:28,860
earlier was the fire service

3790
04:18:28,523 --> 04:18:29,190
protection charges. These are

3791
04:18:29,190 --> 04:18:29,825
again fees that are to about

3792
04:18:29,825 --> 04:18:31,825
1200 different commercial

3793
04:18:32,761 --> 04:18:33,461
multifamily customers that have

3794
04:18:33,461 --> 04:18:35,861
these onsite fire suppression

3795
04:18:36,164 --> 04:18:36,831
systems and have these

3796
04:18:36,831 --> 04:18:37,465
dedicated lines that provide

3797
04:18:37,465 --> 04:18:39,334
water when it's needed for

3798
04:18:39,334 --> 04:18:40,302
those systems. And so we've

3799
04:18:40,302 --> 04:18:43,271
updated the fee schedule to be

3800
04:18:43,271 --> 04:18:43,972
consistent with others in terms

3801
04:18:43,972 --> 04:18:44,906
of how it's generally applied

3802
04:18:44,906 --> 04:18:47,776
usually you'll see these fees

3803
04:18:47,776 --> 04:18:48,510
for 4 inch lines and smaller 6

3804
04:18:48,510 --> 04:18:49,177
inch lines and smaller and then

3805
04:18:49,177 --> 04:18:51,913
scale up from there. So you

3806
04:18:51,913 --> 04:18:52,881
updated the unit cost and

3807
04:18:52,881 --> 04:18:54,881
recommended that modification

3808
04:18:55,830 --> 04:18:55,951
to the approach to these

3809
04:18:55,951 --> 04:18:57,520
monthly charges just included

3810
04:18:57,520 --> 04:18:57,819
some comparison information so

3811
04:18:57,819 --> 04:18:58,587
you can see the updated charges

3812
04:18:58,587 --> 04:19:01,587
are very comparable to what

3813
04:19:01,856 --> 04:19:04,159
other local agencies have for

3814
04:19:04,159 --> 04:19:04,893
the same service.

3815
04:19:04,893 --> 04:19:07,862
The other item that we've we've

3816
04:19:07,862 --> 04:19:08,397
touched on and the analysis and

3817
04:19:08,397 --> 04:19:09,197
some of the comments

3818
04:19:09,197 --> 04:19:10,640
address it is relative to

3819
04:19:10,640 --> 04:19:12,330
affordability we had an

3820
04:19:12,330 --> 04:19:13,134
extensive conversation on this

3821
04:19:13,134 --> 04:19:15,970
through the budget finance and

3822
04:19:15,970 --> 04:19:16,871
taxation committee meeting

3823
04:19:16,871 --> 04:19:17,839
process that was highlighted

3824
04:19:17,839 --> 04:19:20,441
earlier by Lance. We've looked

3825
04:19:20,441 --> 04:19:23,612
at a number of measures whether

3826
04:19:23,612 --> 04:19:24,212
they come from regulatory

3827
04:19:24,212 --> 04:19:24,912
agencies for compliance

3828
04:19:24,912 --> 04:19:26,682
considerations with regulatory

3829
04:19:26,682 --> 04:19:27,682
standards whether they come

3830
04:19:27,682 --> 04:19:30,419
from academia and ways to try

3831
04:19:30,419 --> 04:19:32,287
to look at the measure

3832
04:19:32,287 --> 04:19:32,988
household affordability through

3833
04:19:32,988 --> 04:19:34,122
different means such as hours

3834
04:19:34,122 --> 04:19:36,324
of minimum wage work required

3835
04:19:36,324 --> 04:19:37,192
to pay a bill. We also looked

3836
04:19:37,192 --> 04:19:39,592
at from the regulatory

3837
04:19:40,462 --> 04:19:41,620
exceeding the rating agency

3838
04:19:41,620 --> 04:19:41,663
lenses how they evaluate

3839
04:19:41,663 --> 04:19:43,298
affordability is part of

3840
04:19:43,298 --> 04:19:45,298
evaluating overall financial

3841
04:19:46,601 --> 04:19:47,269
health and credit worthiness of

3842
04:19:47,269 --> 04:19:48,300
communities that issue debt.

3843
04:19:48,300 --> 04:19:50,538
And many of the indicators were

3844
04:19:50,538 --> 04:19:51,506
in the medium burden or low

3845
04:19:51,506 --> 04:19:54,376
burden ranging of kind of put

3846
04:19:54,376 --> 04:19:55,110
up your descriptions of how the

3847
04:19:55,110 --> 04:19:57,110
Environmental Protection Agency

3848
04:19:57,111 --> 04:19:58,513
defines medium and low burden.

3849
04:19:58,513 --> 04:19:59,247
And some of our low Vernon

3850
04:19:59,247 --> 04:19:59,981
indicators are low, but they're

3851
04:19:59,981 --> 04:20:00,682
getting close to medium burden.

3852
04:20:00,682 --> 04:20:03,451
So I think that medium burden

3853
04:20:03,451 --> 04:20:03,685
description is pretty true and

3854
04:20:03,685 --> 04:20:05,685
I

3855
04:20:06,621 --> 04:20:07,221
think you're hearing today.

3856
04:20:07,221 --> 04:20:09,621
There are concerns about

3857
04:20:10,291 --> 04:20:12,291
affordability throughout the

3858
04:20:12,527 --> 04:20:13,127
service area. We do have

3859
04:20:13,127 --> 04:20:13,728
infrastructure intensive

3860
04:20:13,728 --> 04:20:15,363
systems that we have to

3861
04:20:15,363 --> 04:20:16,464
maintaining replace in an

3862
04:20:16,464 --> 04:20:17,320
inflationary environment with

3863
04:20:17,320 --> 04:20:19,320
increasing regulatory

3864
04:20:19,300 --> 04:20:20,100
requirements meaning we MAY not

3865
04:20:20,100 --> 04:20:20,702
see some of these differences

3866
04:20:20,702 --> 04:20:23,471
that are homes to maintain the

3867
04:20:23,471 --> 04:20:24,380
systems because costs are

3868
04:20:24,380 --> 04:20:25,740
rising or because our

3869
04:20:25,740 --> 04:20:26,374
regulations are changing.

3870
04:20:26,374 --> 04:20:28,276
But regulations that we're

3871
04:20:28,276 --> 04:20:31,276
changing but the state federal

3872
04:20:31,445 --> 04:20:32,147
agencies are imposing on us in

3873
04:20:32,147 --> 04:20:32,848
terms of how we provide clean

3874
04:20:32,848 --> 04:20:35,248
drinking water safe, drinking

3875
04:20:35,283 --> 04:20:36,251
water and and obviously

3876
04:20:36,251 --> 04:20:37,252
properly dispose of the waste

3877
04:20:37,252 --> 04:20:38,219
water, so you know all this is

3878
04:20:38,219 --> 04:20:38,920
to say that this is an

3879
04:20:38,920 --> 04:20:41,857
important part of the process

3880
04:20:41,857 --> 04:20:43,791
and there's a lot of analysis

3881
04:20:43,791 --> 04:20:44,592
that goes into affordability

3882
04:20:44,592 --> 04:20:47,629
to try to consider it and to

3883
04:20:47,629 --> 04:20:48,296
try to understand it as part of

3884
04:20:48,296 --> 04:20:48,964
this process he 2 years so I

3885
04:20:48,964 --> 04:20:49,664
know all of you are familiar

3886
04:20:49,664 --> 04:20:50,398
with that but I also just want

3887
04:20:50,398 --> 04:20:51,900
to make sure for those that are

3888
04:20:51,900 --> 04:20:53,100
here and those that are

3889
04:20:53,100 --> 04:20:55,170
watching it's it's a very front

3890
04:20:55,170 --> 04:20:55,837
and center consideration as we

3891
04:20:55,837 --> 04:20:56,604
go through the rate setting

3892
04:20:56,604 --> 04:20:57,305
process with you each year.

3893
04:20:57,305 --> 04:21:00,274
And it's very much considered

3894
04:21:00,274 --> 04:21:01,509
when recommendations are being

3895
04:21:01,509 --> 04:21:03,780
developed so

3896
04:21:03,780 --> 04:21:03,778
but there are opportunities in

3897
04:21:03,778 --> 04:21:04,445
the future as well that we can

3898
04:21:04,445 --> 04:21:06,882
maybe mitigate some of these

3899
04:21:06,882 --> 04:21:08,820
future increases and so I want

3900
04:21:08,820 --> 04:21:08,784
to turn it over to Lansing just

3901
04:21:08,784 --> 04:21:09,417
talk about additional measures

3902
04:21:09,417 --> 04:21:10,118
staff is taking to try to

3903
04:21:10,118 --> 04:21:12,653
contain the cost and find ways

3904
04:21:12,653 --> 04:21:15,723
to pay for some of these

3905
04:21:15,723 --> 04:21:17,723
things.

3906
04:21:19,694 --> 04:21:22,940
>> Thank you Andy appreciate

3907
04:21:22,964 --> 04:21:23,398
taken a little bit of a deeper

3908
04:21:23,398 --> 04:21:25,398
dive into the

3909
04:21:26,367 --> 04:21:27,102
methodology and the metrics

3910
04:21:27,102 --> 04:21:29,938
behind what's driving the fy 27

3911
04:21:29,938 --> 04:21:30,504
rate study program as Andy said

3912
04:21:30,504 --> 04:21:31,720
there are

3913
04:21:31,720 --> 04:21:32,607
opportunities in which

3914
04:21:32,607 --> 04:21:33,775
administration with close

3915
04:21:33,775 --> 04:21:35,443
collaboration with on Council

3916
04:21:35,443 --> 04:21:36,411
are looking at to help mitigate

3917
04:21:36,411 --> 04:21:39,681
the risks are the mitigate the

3918
04:21:39,681 --> 04:21:40,281
impact of the rate payers

3919
04:21:40,281 --> 04:21:42,281
throughout this process.

3920
04:21:43,651 --> 04:21:44,953
Currently we can point to the

3921
04:21:44,953 --> 04:21:46,387
state revolving fund loans

3922
04:21:46,387 --> 04:21:48,222
that we were able to secure and

3923
04:21:48,222 --> 04:21:48,823
we're currently working with

3924
04:21:48,823 --> 04:21:51,760
the state at going going

3925
04:21:51,760 --> 04:21:54,160
through the application process

3926
04:21:54,896 --> 04:21:56,970
for these for these programs.

3927
04:21:56,970 --> 04:21:57,198
We have been we have been

3928
04:21:57,198 --> 04:21:57,865
awarded and going through the

3929
04:21:57,865 --> 04:22:00,265
preliminary process for the

3930
04:22:00,868 --> 04:22:03,268
hazard mitigation grant program

3931
04:22:04,138 --> 04:22:05,507
for Debby Helene and Milton

3932
04:22:05,507 --> 04:22:08,507
and we're looking at potential

3933
04:22:08,776 --> 04:22:09,430
hearing back from the state and

3934
04:22:09,430 --> 04:22:10,678
the

3935
04:22:10,678 --> 04:22:11,279
federal government and the in

3936
04:22:11,279 --> 04:22:14,149
the fall for the for the

3937
04:22:14,149 --> 04:22:17,149
programs and the projects in

3938
04:22:17,418 --> 04:22:18,190
which we applied for under the

3939
04:22:18,190 --> 04:22:20,288
age of gp program. Also

3940
04:22:20,288 --> 04:22:21,155
we have community and the

3941
04:22:21,155 --> 04:22:21,756
community development block

3942
04:22:21,756 --> 04:22:23,756
grant disaster recovery.

3943
04:22:24,125 --> 04:22:25,860
And the 25 million that was

3944
04:22:25,860 --> 04:22:26,627
awarded to the stormwater

3945
04:22:26,627 --> 04:22:29,563
utility program. That is also

3946
04:22:29,563 --> 04:22:32,834
going to be utilized to help

3947
04:22:32,834 --> 04:22:33,300
mitigate the impact of the rate

3948
04:22:33,300 --> 04:22:34,680
payers. Looking

3949
04:22:34,680 --> 04:22:36,468
forward for some other

3950
04:22:36,905 --> 04:22:38,239
potential revenues that the

3951
04:22:38,239 --> 04:22:40,174
utilities could take advantage

3952
04:22:40,174 --> 04:22:40,942
of and the future there's the

3953
04:22:40,942 --> 04:22:43,342
resilient Florida program this

3954
04:22:44,178 --> 04:22:46,214
is a competitive grant program

3955
04:22:46,214 --> 04:22:48,950
administered by the fda p

3956
04:22:48,950 --> 04:22:49,617
and the city is diligently

3957
04:22:49,617 --> 04:22:52,170
looking at the opportunities

3958
04:22:52,120 --> 04:22:54,756
throw for the funding through

3959
04:22:54,756 --> 04:22:55,623
resilient, Florida for various

3960
04:22:55,623 --> 04:22:58,230
different projects. And the

3961
04:22:58,359 --> 04:22:59,600
water resources department

3962
04:22:59,600 --> 04:23:01,600
future congressional community

3963
04:23:01,997 --> 04:23:03,640
project funding opportunities.

3964
04:23:03,640 --> 04:23:05,640
State appropriations requests

3965
04:23:06,334 --> 04:23:07,202
and the brick opportunities as

3966
04:23:07,202 --> 04:23:07,802
well which

3967
04:23:07,802 --> 04:23:08,636
is I was just ran by the

3968
04:23:08,636 --> 04:23:11,360
federal government and that

3969
04:23:11,806 --> 04:23:13,774
close collaboration czar close

3970
04:23:13,774 --> 04:23:14,842
alignment with like the gp

3971
04:23:14,842 --> 04:23:17,812
program but the the bric

3972
04:23:17,812 --> 04:23:18,512
program is kind of pre-disaster

3973
04:23:18,512 --> 04:23:19,781
friction versus agent up which

3974
04:23:19,781 --> 04:23:23,500
is post disaster. And with that

3975
04:23:23,500 --> 04:23:24,520
it would bring the end of the

3976
04:23:24,520 --> 04:23:26,520
presentation

3977
04:23:26,120 --> 04:23:26,621
and I'm we'd like to thank you

3978
04:23:26,621 --> 04:23:27,322
for your time your

3979
04:23:27,322 --> 04:23:29,722
consideration and look forward

3980
04:23:30,425 --> 04:23:32,825
to that the following

3981
04:23:33,594 --> 04:23:35,429
discussion. Thank you.

3982
04:23:35,429 --> 04:23:38,499
I the maybe that's that I want

3983
04:23:38,499 --> 04:23:39,200
to kind of cover a little bit

3984
04:23:39,200 --> 04:23:42,690
because I know their concerns

3985
04:23:42,690 --> 04:23:43,438
that this decision. The

3986
04:23:43,438 --> 04:23:44,138
decision

3987
04:23:44,138 --> 04:23:46,141
on rates for just made in this

3988
04:23:46,141 --> 04:23:47,242
meeting if we can cover number

3989
04:23:47,242 --> 04:23:49,310
one the process because its

3990
04:23:49,310 --> 04:23:50,511
genesis ends it starts again

3991
04:23:50,511 --> 04:23:51,412
every year with budget every

3992
04:23:51,412 --> 04:23:54,749
year with everything we do it

3993
04:23:54,749 --> 04:23:57,840
literally never ends right in

3994
04:23:57,840 --> 04:23:58,860
terms of a process

3995
04:23:58,860 --> 04:23:59,621
of examining where costs are.

3996
04:23:59,621 --> 04:24:00,722
Yeah, it's very much a

3997
04:24:00,722 --> 04:24:03,558
continuous as we conclude this

3998
04:24:03,558 --> 04:24:04,258
process we started finding

3999
04:24:04,258 --> 04:24:05,426
where the initiatives that we

4000
04:24:05,426 --> 04:24:08,496
want to look at next calendar

4001
04:24:08,496 --> 04:24:09,960
year. So we start identifying

4002
04:24:09,960 --> 04:24:09,730
programs such as MAY be

4003
04:24:09,730 --> 04:24:12,130
updating certain fees are

4004
04:24:12,200 --> 04:24:13,167
looking at evaluating the rate

4005
04:24:13,167 --> 04:24:15,360
structure we tee up with those

4006
04:24:15,360 --> 04:24:16,137
initiatives are to develop

4007
04:24:16,137 --> 04:24:16,837
ultimately in frame the

4008
04:24:16,837 --> 04:24:19,106
conversations that then start

4009
04:24:19,106 --> 04:24:20,508
in JANUARY where we started

4010
04:24:20,508 --> 04:24:23,478
then also solicit input from

4011
04:24:23,478 --> 04:24:24,212
each of you a relative to key

4012
04:24:24,212 --> 04:24:25,446
issues considerations reminders

4013
04:24:25,446 --> 04:24:26,147
of where we left off last year

4014
04:24:26,147 --> 04:24:28,182
talking about the things that

4015
04:24:28,182 --> 04:24:28,816
we're looking to endeavor upon

4016
04:24:28,816 --> 04:24:29,917
this year in terms of new

4017
04:24:29,917 --> 04:24:32,653
initiatives and then from that

4018
04:24:32,653 --> 04:24:33,754
process we then fall in line

4019
04:24:33,754 --> 04:24:36,154
with your processees relative

4020
04:24:36,591 --> 04:24:39,591
to you establishing and setting

4021
04:24:39,961 --> 04:24:40,761
operating budgets and capital

4022
04:24:40,761 --> 04:24:41,529
budgets. And so those

4023
04:24:41,529 --> 04:24:42,230
become input into the process

4024
04:24:42,230 --> 04:24:43,698
so that we can make sure that

4025
04:24:43,698 --> 04:24:44,332
as you're making decisions

4026
04:24:44,332 --> 04:24:46,732
relative to operations and

4027
04:24:47,102 --> 04:24:49,704
capital were pulling those into

4028
04:24:49,704 --> 04:24:50,371
the raid evaluation process and

4029
04:24:50,371 --> 04:24:52,440
then measure the adequacy of

4030
04:24:52,440 --> 04:24:53,107
your rates and revenues to meet

4031
04:24:53,107 --> 04:24:55,107
those budgetary requirements

4032
04:24:56,177 --> 04:24:57,512
and that's where we get into

4033
04:24:57,512 --> 04:24:58,680
scenario analysis during

4034
04:24:58,680 --> 04:24:59,314
the summer months where we look

4035
04:24:59,314 --> 04:25:00,882
at options consider about

4036
04:25:00,882 --> 04:25:01,749
alternatives to paying for the

4037
04:25:01,749 --> 04:25:03,749
infrastructure different rate

4038
04:25:04,685 --> 04:25:05,353
scenarios work through that

4039
04:25:05,353 --> 04:25:07,555
over the summer months that

4040
04:25:07,555 --> 04:25:10,555
ultimately culminate in a final

4041
04:25:10,724 --> 04:25:11,425
recommendation for utility

4042
04:25:11,425 --> 04:25:12,930
rates that are appropriate to

4043
04:25:12,930 --> 04:25:14,662
meet the needs of the system

4044
04:25:14,662 --> 04:25:15,329
that reflect all the different

4045
04:25:15,329 --> 04:25:16,630
considerations going into it

4046
04:25:16,630 --> 04:25:18,500
not just the immediate term but

4047
04:25:18,500 --> 04:25:20,768
future considerations we don't

4048
04:25:20,768 --> 04:25:21,335
set ourselves up for future

4049
04:25:21,335 --> 04:25:23,335
rate spikes near-term

4050
04:25:23,905 --> 04:25:24,538
affordability concerns based

4051
04:25:24,538 --> 04:25:26,674
upon those we MAY exercise

4052
04:25:26,674 --> 04:25:27,775
different scenarios such as

4053
04:25:27,775 --> 04:25:29,310
this year we exercise different

4054
04:25:29,310 --> 04:25:29,944
approaches relative to how we

4055
04:25:29,944 --> 04:25:30,945
pay for capital to try to

4056
04:25:30,945 --> 04:25:33,945
mitigate some of the impacts

4057
04:25:34,281 --> 04:25:36,217
but that's kind of how the

4058
04:25:36,217 --> 04:25:36,917
process ultimately unfolds

4059
04:25:36,917 --> 04:25:37,584
and then we get to this point

4060
04:25:37,584 --> 04:25:39,984
have these conversations and

4061
04:25:40,688 --> 04:25:43,688
then it again we'll carry

4062
04:25:43,724 --> 04:25:45,724
forward

4063
04:25:46,193 --> 04:25:46,861
in terms of when.

4064
04:25:46,861 --> 04:25:47,528
These studies happen if you

4065
04:25:47,528 --> 04:25:48,195
look at other municipalities

4066
04:25:48,195 --> 04:25:49,330
and what they're looking at

4067
04:25:49,330 --> 04:25:50,310
what your needs are I know they

4068
04:25:50,310 --> 04:25:50,765
are a lot of times people are

4069
04:25:50,765 --> 04:25:51,733
comparing with this is

4070
04:25:51,733 --> 04:25:53,935
happening here and this is what

4071
04:25:53,935 --> 04:25:57,205
degree is in this County are in

4072
04:25:57,205 --> 04:25:58,205
this city or wherever they're

4073
04:25:58,205 --> 04:26:00,400
looking at if you can

4074
04:26:00,400 --> 04:26:01,476
talk a little bit about what

4075
04:26:01,476 --> 04:26:02,177
happens in terms of race in

4076
04:26:02,177 --> 04:26:05,790
different areas based on what

4077
04:26:05,790 --> 04:26:07,382
plans are where they are in the

4078
04:26:07,382 --> 04:26:08,150
process so on and so

4079
04:26:08,150 --> 04:26:08,616
forth and how much they're

4080
04:26:08,616 --> 04:26:09,250
investing in the system.

4081
04:26:09,250 --> 04:26:09,984
Yeah, I think every every

4082
04:26:09,984 --> 04:26:10,685
utility system is that a little

4083
04:26:10,685 --> 04:26:13,850
bit different status relative

4084
04:26:13,455 --> 04:26:13,954
to where they are in their

4085
04:26:13,954 --> 04:26:14,556
capital

4086
04:26:14,556 --> 04:26:15,256
planning and investment

4087
04:26:15,256 --> 04:26:17,656
strategies. But generally each

4088
04:26:18,920 --> 04:26:18,660
year utilities in communities

4089
04:26:18,660 --> 04:26:19,327
have to have the same

4090
04:26:19,327 --> 04:26:21,996
conversations so we have the

4091
04:26:21,996 --> 04:26:24,899
opportunity to work with over a

4092
04:26:24,899 --> 04:26:25,600
100 communities in Florida.

4093
04:26:25,600 --> 04:26:26,300
Having these conversations and

4094
04:26:26,300 --> 04:26:28,680
a few 100 across North America

4095
04:26:28,680 --> 04:26:28,770
and so if you think locally

4096
04:26:28,770 --> 04:26:31,673
what we're seeing is a lot of

4097
04:26:31,673 --> 04:26:32,373
challenging conversations about

4098
04:26:32,373 --> 04:26:34,942
how we pay for infrastructure

4099
04:26:34,942 --> 04:26:36,430
for water resources and for

4100
04:26:36,430 --> 04:26:38,245
storm water and then on the

4101
04:26:38,245 --> 04:26:38,847
sanitation side. Everyone in

4102
04:26:38,847 --> 04:26:39,547
Pinellas County all the

4103
04:26:39,547 --> 04:26:41,181
municipalities are struggling

4104
04:26:41,181 --> 04:26:43,251
with the same challenge on the

4105
04:26:43,251 --> 04:26:43,884
disposal Gulf ports looking at

4106
04:26:43,884 --> 04:26:46,284
an 8% increase next year.

4107
04:26:46,321 --> 04:26:48,422
Clearwater is looking Think

4108
04:26:48,422 --> 04:26:49,290
about a 4 and a half percent

4109
04:26:49,290 --> 04:26:50,240
increase. If you look at storm

4110
04:26:50,240 --> 04:26:53,240
water systems that we're seeing

4111
04:26:53,270 --> 04:26:53,694
a lot of great pressure right

4112
04:26:53,694 --> 04:26:54,529
now don't even looking at a

4113
04:26:54,529 --> 04:26:56,929
19% increase in storm water

4114
04:26:57,598 --> 04:26:59,567
rates next year. And on top of

4115
04:26:59,567 --> 04:27:00,234
that a 15% increase in water

4116
04:27:00,234 --> 04:27:01,669
and sewer rates clear waters

4117
04:27:01,669 --> 04:27:02,370
looking percent increases on

4118
04:27:02,370 --> 04:27:03,104
water and sewer and stormwater

4119
04:27:03,104 --> 04:27:05,673
for the next couple of years, I

4120
04:27:05,673 --> 04:27:06,974
mean it's just we're seeing a

4121
04:27:06,974 --> 04:27:09,374
lot of similar challenges

4122
04:27:09,511 --> 04:27:10,211
going through a process that's

4123
04:27:10,211 --> 04:27:13,800
similar maybe not exactly the

4124
04:27:13,800 --> 04:27:14,349
same as what we do here but a

4125
04:27:14,349 --> 04:27:16,749
similar process of evaluating

4126
04:27:17,618 --> 04:27:18,319
or utility rates to fund our

4127
04:27:18,319 --> 04:27:21,188
needs do we have enough in the

4128
04:27:21,188 --> 04:27:21,856
needs were seeing similar

4129
04:27:21,856 --> 04:27:22,490
common drivers of regulatory

4130
04:27:22,490 --> 04:27:23,958
requirements, increases in

4131
04:27:23,958 --> 04:27:26,358
capital cost and inflation.

4132
04:27:26,494 --> 04:27:27,161
That's driving a lot of similar

4133
04:27:27,161 --> 04:27:30,640
levels of increases in areas

4134
04:27:30,640 --> 04:27:33,640
and communities here in the

4135
04:27:33,301 --> 04:27:35,690
area and generally will vary

4136
04:27:35,690 --> 04:27:35,470
throughout different parts of

4137
04:27:35,470 --> 04:27:36,203
the country.

4138
04:27:36,203 --> 04:27:38,273
We're looking at the systems we

4139
04:27:38,273 --> 04:27:39,607
talk about storm water. We talk

4140
04:27:39,607 --> 04:27:40,808
about our potable water and use

4141
04:27:40,808 --> 04:27:43,778
different systems. We do a

4142
04:27:43,778 --> 04:27:44,512
study and we do planning

4143
04:27:44,512 --> 04:27:47,348
documents not just for 5 years.

4144
04:27:47,348 --> 04:27:47,782
I mean we do long-term studies

4145
04:27:47,782 --> 04:27:48,482
and I'm just I

4146
04:27:48,482 --> 04:27:49,550
just want to get a little bit

4147
04:27:49,550 --> 04:27:50,985
of a pine. What we're looking

4148
04:27:50,985 --> 04:27:51,652
at in terms of looking at the

4149
04:27:51,652 --> 04:27:54,555
systems and the needs of the

4150
04:27:54,555 --> 04:27:56,190
systems and how back kind of

4151
04:27:56,190 --> 04:27:56,724
changes be sometime in

4152
04:27:56,724 --> 04:27:57,525
the age of a system.

4153
04:27:57,525 --> 04:28:00,394
Yeah, it's a good point so for

4154
04:28:00,394 --> 04:28:01,562
each of the different utility

4155
04:28:01,562 --> 04:28:02,463
systems, there's capital plans

4156
04:28:02,463 --> 04:28:05,463
and programs that go out.

4157
04:28:05,733 --> 04:28:06,400
You know 10 to 20 years and so

4158
04:28:06,400 --> 04:28:06,968
we're including

4159
04:28:06,968 --> 04:28:08,903
that in the financial

4160
04:28:08,903 --> 04:28:09,570
forecasting model and with that

4161
04:28:09,570 --> 04:28:10,271
information in mind it does

4162
04:28:10,271 --> 04:28:12,506
influence current decisions if

4163
04:28:12,506 --> 04:28:15,776
we know for instance with storm

4164
04:28:15,776 --> 04:28:16,411
water that we need to ramp up

4165
04:28:16,411 --> 04:28:17,440
our capital spending from

4166
04:28:17,440 --> 04:28:17,778
30 million to 50 million a

4167
04:28:17,778 --> 04:28:19,213
year. You know we want to start

4168
04:28:19,213 --> 04:28:21,515
considering that now and

4169
04:28:21,515 --> 04:28:24,752
figuring out how can we do that

4170
04:28:24,752 --> 04:28:25,420
in a way that's reasonable and

4171
04:28:25,420 --> 04:28:26,530
doesn't necessarily require

4172
04:28:26,530 --> 04:28:28,530
significant rate increases

4173
04:28:29,123 --> 04:28:29,657
overnight to do that so that

4174
04:28:29,657 --> 04:28:30,357
future planning for

4175
04:28:30,357 --> 04:28:31,250
infrastructure is layered into

4176
04:28:31,250 --> 04:28:33,628
this process. So that we can

4177
04:28:33,628 --> 04:28:34,629
not only just focus on what's

4178
04:28:34,629 --> 04:28:35,929
in front of us for next year

4179
04:28:35,929 --> 04:28:39,200
for fiscal 27. A little bit of

4180
04:28:39,200 --> 04:28:40,301
advance planning for what's

4181
04:28:40,301 --> 04:28:40,868
coming in the future

4182
04:28:40,868 --> 04:28:41,436
years based upon those

4183
04:28:41,436 --> 04:28:42,690
infrastructure plans.

4184
04:28:42,690 --> 04:28:44,939
So you look at the studies

4185
04:28:44,939 --> 04:28:45,272
whether it's storm water

4186
04:28:45,272 --> 04:28:46,600
portable

4187
04:28:46,600 --> 04:28:49,143
water figuring out to reits you

4188
04:28:49,143 --> 04:28:50,144
what you come up with ease a

4189
04:28:50,144 --> 04:28:50,844
great

4190
04:28:50,844 --> 04:28:51,546
study feasibility Henry study

4191
04:28:51,546 --> 04:28:52,546
report right and part of that

4192
04:28:52,546 --> 04:28:54,946
report covers operational costs

4193
04:28:55,616 --> 04:28:58,586
in the system with the cost is

4194
04:28:58,586 --> 04:28:59,253
and the other part of that is

4195
04:28:59,253 --> 04:29:01,189
based on the capital system

4196
04:29:01,189 --> 04:29:02,290
right what you need. Capital

4197
04:29:02,290 --> 04:29:04,240
improvement which is based on

4198
04:29:04,240 --> 04:29:06,127
these plans so there's flooding

4199
04:29:06,127 --> 04:29:07,862
in whatever neighborhood people

4200
04:29:07,862 --> 04:29:09,930
there's flooding here you need

4201
04:29:09,930 --> 04:29:13,268
to fix it. That goes into that

4202
04:29:13,268 --> 04:29:13,935
plan the engineers and everyone

4203
04:29:13,935 --> 04:29:15,636
does it write their analysis

4204
04:29:15,636 --> 04:29:17,838
and they come up with a plan in

4205
04:29:17,838 --> 04:29:18,572
terms of addressing all these

4206
04:29:18,572 --> 04:29:19,240
different issues that our storm

4207
04:29:19,240 --> 04:29:21,640
water related throughout the

4208
04:29:22,176 --> 04:29:24,479
city that leads to flooding in

4209
04:29:24,479 --> 04:29:24,979
different areas, whatever

4210
04:29:24,979 --> 04:29:25,679
neighboring Iran.

4211
04:29:25,679 --> 04:29:26,347
I think conceptually that's a

4212
04:29:26,347 --> 04:29:26,981
fair description obviously I

4213
04:29:26,981 --> 04:29:28,583
know that there's a lot of

4214
04:29:28,583 --> 04:29:30,184
folks has been a lot of there's

4215
04:29:30,184 --> 04:29:30,851
a lot more that

4216
04:29:30,851 --> 04:29:31,152
goes into that this is very

4217
04:29:31,152 --> 04:29:31,853
rough.

4218
04:29:31,853 --> 04:29:32,587
Yes, actually yes that that's

4219
04:29:32,587 --> 04:29:34,422
how you build your project list

4220
04:29:34,422 --> 04:29:34,988
is based upon some of that

4221
04:29:34,988 --> 04:29:36,900
input

4222
04:29:36,900 --> 04:29:36,791
data observations about system

4223
04:29:36,791 --> 04:29:39,660
failures and where you have to

4224
04:29:39,660 --> 04:29:40,795
continue to occur, there's a

4225
04:29:40,795 --> 04:29:41,462
lot

4226
04:29:41,462 --> 04:29:42,960
of input into that process.

4227
04:29:42,960 --> 04:29:43,964
So that's that's the storm

4228
04:29:43,964 --> 04:29:44,599
water system and then when it

4229
04:29:44,599 --> 04:29:45,933
comes to the potable water

4230
04:29:45,933 --> 04:29:46,634
system if you look at our

4231
04:29:46,634 --> 04:29:47,368
system the water doesn't come

4232
04:29:47,368 --> 04:29:48,669
from below the ground comes all

4233
04:29:48,669 --> 04:29:52,730
the way from up north and then

4234
04:29:52,730 --> 04:29:53,474
you have all the pipes in our

4235
04:29:53,474 --> 04:29:54,175
system right and then that

4236
04:29:54,175 --> 04:29:57,440
gets inputted into our capital

4237
04:29:57,440 --> 04:29:58,512
improvements and we figure out

4238
04:29:58,512 --> 04:29:59,713
which are the pipes that mean

4239
04:29:59,713 --> 04:30:02,160
you know x amount of pipes in

4240
04:30:02,160 --> 04:30:02,649
downtown, I'll tell your over

4241
04:30:02,649 --> 04:30:05,186
7700 years are going to be

4242
04:30:05,186 --> 04:30:07,154
replacement by next year.

4243
04:30:07,154 --> 04:30:08,220
You know some of them are 52

4244
04:30:08,220 --> 04:30:08,722
whatever years and we know that

4245
04:30:08,722 --> 04:30:09,389
they're in critical condition

4246
04:30:09,389 --> 04:30:10,580
and they have to be replaced

4247
04:30:10,580 --> 04:30:12,893
and then you figure out what

4248
04:30:12,893 --> 04:30:13,728
those costs are and then you

4249
04:30:13,728 --> 04:30:14,395
try to come

4250
04:30:14,395 --> 04:30:14,695
up with a system to pay for

4251
04:30:14,695 --> 04:30:15,263
this.

4252
04:30:15,263 --> 04:30:18,980
You try, but then it's

4253
04:30:18,980 --> 04:30:18,699
challenging because there's

4254
04:30:18,699 --> 04:30:19,633
only so many things that

4255
04:30:19,633 --> 04:30:20,501
we can really tackle at once

4256
04:30:20,501 --> 04:30:21,368
when you consider some of the

4257
04:30:21,368 --> 04:30:23,368
limiting conditions like

4258
04:30:24,538 --> 04:30:25,239
affordability so for instance,

4259
04:30:25,239 --> 04:30:25,873
the water distribution system

4260
04:30:25,873 --> 04:30:26,540
is one that because of the

4261
04:30:26,540 --> 04:30:28,776
storms the consent orders we

4262
04:30:28,776 --> 04:30:29,209
focused a lot right on

4263
04:30:29,209 --> 04:30:30,111
wastewater in

4264
04:30:30,111 --> 04:30:33,380
storm water we need to shift

4265
04:30:33,380 --> 04:30:33,948
our focus to the water system

4266
04:30:33,948 --> 04:30:34,615
to

4267
04:30:34,615 --> 04:30:35,316
really get that underground

4268
04:30:35,316 --> 04:30:37,352
infrastructure. Back on a good

4269
04:30:37,352 --> 04:30:39,752
replacement schedule and cycle.

4270
04:30:40,621 --> 04:30:41,121
So that's kind of ramping up

4271
04:30:41,121 --> 04:30:41,955
over our cip while

4272
04:30:41,955 --> 04:30:42,623
other components or maybe held

4273
04:30:42,623 --> 04:30:44,892
flat now so there's there's

4274
04:30:44,892 --> 04:30:45,459
some things that have to shift

4275
04:30:45,459 --> 04:30:47,459
from a prioritization

4276
04:30:48,496 --> 04:30:51,496
standpoint because we just it's

4277
04:30:51,532 --> 04:30:53,670
I think

4278
04:30:53,670 --> 04:30:53,667
it's a new challenge to do it

4279
04:30:53,667 --> 04:30:54,402
all at once and for all.

4280
04:30:54,402 --> 04:30:55,690
Part of the process is to weigh

4281
04:30:55,690 --> 04:30:55,736
those competing priorities.

4282
04:30:55,736 --> 04:30:56,470
You mention consent orders.

4283
04:30:56,470 --> 04:30:57,138
Could you explain to the public

4284
04:30:57,138 --> 04:30:59,538
because that's not something

4285
04:30:59,974 --> 04:31:01,742
you normally hear what happened

4286
04:31:01,742 --> 04:31:02,442
here in the city back

4287
04:31:02,442 --> 04:31:02,710
then what have what we have to

4288
04:31:02,710 --> 04:31:04,579
you.

4289
04:31:04,579 --> 04:31:05,680
Well, generally speaking you

4290
04:31:05,680 --> 04:31:08,680
have a consent order situation

4291
04:31:08,916 --> 04:31:09,484
when you've had a an event that

4292
04:31:09,484 --> 04:31:10,184
your wastewater plants

4293
04:31:10,184 --> 04:31:12,953
for instance, where you've had

4294
04:31:12,953 --> 04:31:14,555
to discharge partially or even

4295
04:31:14,555 --> 04:31:15,222
not fully

4296
04:31:15,222 --> 04:31:15,956
treated wastewater and so we

4297
04:31:15,956 --> 04:31:18,559
have that circumstance occur if

4298
04:31:18,559 --> 04:31:19,693
it occurs frequent enough or

4299
04:31:19,693 --> 04:31:20,294
too significant

4300
04:31:20,294 --> 04:31:20,961
degree the Environmental

4301
04:31:20,961 --> 04:31:22,196
Protection Agency and state

4302
04:31:22,196 --> 04:31:22,863
agencies will become involved

4303
04:31:22,863 --> 04:31:24,265
and say okay we need you to

4304
04:31:24,265 --> 04:31:26,800
become in compliance because we

4305
04:31:26,800 --> 04:31:27,534
have standards that really

4306
04:31:27,534 --> 04:31:29,837
guard against doing that unless

4307
04:31:29,837 --> 04:31:32,139
it's extreme situations and

4308
04:31:32,139 --> 04:31:32,840
even then there still MAY be

4309
04:31:32,840 --> 04:31:33,473
limitations. So then once the

4310
04:31:33,473 --> 04:31:34,142
epa and state leaders have

4311
04:31:34,142 --> 04:31:37,110
gotten work with you to say

4312
04:31:37,110 --> 04:31:37,711
years all the things that you

4313
04:31:37,711 --> 04:31:38,412
are

4314
04:31:38,412 --> 04:31:40,681
not in compliance with. Let's

4315
04:31:40,681 --> 04:31:41,549
develop a schedule of all the

4316
04:31:41,549 --> 04:31:42,249
things you need to do to become

4317
04:31:42,249 --> 04:31:44,840
in compliance and you have to

4318
04:31:44,840 --> 04:31:44,718
fund those things and you have

4319
04:31:44,718 --> 04:31:47,721
to do it by a certain time

4320
04:31:47,721 --> 04:31:48,889
otherwise there's going to be

4321
04:31:48,889 --> 04:31:50,889
penalties involved so

4322
04:31:52,590 --> 04:31:52,693
that's a process that all

4323
04:31:52,693 --> 04:31:53,261
utilities face in terms of

4324
04:31:53,261 --> 04:31:54,996
having to comply with

4325
04:31:54,996 --> 04:31:55,596
regulations and that compliance

4326
04:31:55,596 --> 04:31:56,330
really means we have to

4327
04:31:56,330 --> 04:31:57,831
maintain our systems and to get

4328
04:31:57,831 --> 04:32:00,701
us in a good state of repair in

4329
04:32:00,701 --> 04:32:02,669
working condition. That

4330
04:32:02,669 --> 04:32:03,437
requires the 2 things you

4331
04:32:03,437 --> 04:32:04,105
mention, good operations and

4332
04:32:04,105 --> 04:32:06,505
maintenance for repairs and

4333
04:32:07,274 --> 04:32:08,910
then good capital replacement

4334
04:32:08,910 --> 04:32:09,644
cycles so

4335
04:32:09,644 --> 04:32:10,110
that the infrastructure is less

4336
04:32:10,110 --> 04:32:12,110
likely to fail.

4337
04:32:13,147 --> 04:32:14,381
If you don't invest and just to

4338
04:32:14,381 --> 04:32:15,150
be

4339
04:32:15,150 --> 04:32:15,449
clear the money that comes

4340
04:32:15,449 --> 04:32:17,351
right back.

4341
04:32:17,351 --> 04:32:18,850
In terms of the system itself

4342
04:32:18,850 --> 04:32:18,819
right it's an enterprise system

4343
04:32:18,819 --> 04:32:21,550
it's a utility system might you

4344
04:32:21,550 --> 04:32:24,324
have only so many sources you

4345
04:32:24,324 --> 04:32:27,194
get money from all right so its

4346
04:32:27,194 --> 04:32:27,895
from the utility fees.

4347
04:32:27,895 --> 04:32:31,980
Some of that comes from penny

4348
04:32:31,980 --> 04:32:33,968
funds. And then we have some

4349
04:32:33,968 --> 04:32:34,501
that come from

4350
04:32:34,501 --> 04:32:35,202
I missing anything.

4351
04:32:35,202 --> 04:32:38,106
Those are the primary sources.

4352
04:32:38,106 --> 04:32:38,773
We have miscellaneous fees that

4353
04:32:38,773 --> 04:32:39,440
we try to maximize like the

4354
04:32:39,440 --> 04:32:41,709
wastewater capacity fee and

4355
04:32:41,709 --> 04:32:42,409
other various fees and charges

4356
04:32:42,409 --> 04:32:43,143
so we try to optimize fees for

4357
04:32:43,143 --> 04:32:46,143
specific services where we can

4358
04:32:46,413 --> 04:32:49,550
to offset how much has to come

4359
04:32:49,550 --> 04:32:51,550
from rates.

4360
04:32:52,987 --> 04:32:53,621
So when we use.

4361
04:32:53,621 --> 04:32:54,355
Grant monies, another, you

4362
04:32:54,355 --> 04:32:54,988
know, but the state monies that

4363
04:32:54,988 --> 04:32:55,589
are available or let's say

4364
04:32:55,589 --> 04:32:56,190
federal monies that are

4365
04:32:56,190 --> 04:32:56,857
available and sometimes

4366
04:32:56,857 --> 04:32:58,250
depending on the environment

4367
04:32:58,250 --> 04:33:01,262
you have less federal and state

4368
04:33:01,262 --> 04:33:02,730
monies available but on

4369
04:33:02,730 --> 04:33:03,464
average.

4370
04:33:03,464 --> 04:33:04,131
What are we looking in terms of

4371
04:33:04,131 --> 04:33:06,901
how that impacts a system or

4372
04:33:06,901 --> 04:33:09,901
how much does that contribute

4373
04:33:10,171 --> 04:33:13,140
for says that say you're

4374
04:33:13,140 --> 04:33:13,841
your utility fees.

4375
04:33:13,841 --> 04:33:16,177
Well how give stormwater as an

4376
04:33:16,177 --> 04:33:16,844
example for this once that's

4377
04:33:16,844 --> 04:33:19,246
probably the the easiest if

4378
04:33:19,246 --> 04:33:19,914
your father is a a a couple

4379
04:33:19,914 --> 04:33:20,614
years ago we were looking at

4380
04:33:20,614 --> 04:33:23,584
about a 15% increase in storm

4381
04:33:23,584 --> 04:33:23,951
water. We've has received a

4382
04:33:23,951 --> 04:33:24,652
major

4383
04:33:24,652 --> 04:33:25,686
Grant were able to lower that

4384
04:33:25,686 --> 04:33:26,320
to you now person. In the

4385
04:33:26,320 --> 04:33:29,190
forecast for now for storm

4386
04:33:29,190 --> 04:33:30,958
water we only have about one to

4387
04:33:30,958 --> 04:33:31,526
million a year grants built

4388
04:33:31,526 --> 04:33:32,226
into it because of the

4389
04:33:32,226 --> 04:33:34,626
conditions you mentioned like

4390
04:33:34,762 --> 04:33:35,663
these things fluctuate their

4391
04:33:35,663 --> 04:33:37,640
competitive in some instances

4392
04:33:37,640 --> 04:33:37,765
and slants pointed out what we

4393
04:33:37,765 --> 04:33:39,600
do is as soon as we get those

4394
04:33:39,600 --> 04:33:40,468
they become factored into the

4395
04:33:40,468 --> 04:33:43,404
process and once we know

4396
04:33:43,404 --> 04:33:44,710
they've been awarded we then

4397
04:33:44,710 --> 04:33:47,107
factor them in so we've been

4398
04:33:47,107 --> 04:33:47,808
intentionally conservative.

4399
04:33:47,808 --> 04:33:48,442
Right now Serena. There's not

4400
04:33:48,442 --> 04:33:49,209
reliance grants built into

4401
04:33:49,209 --> 04:33:51,609
these forecast. But there's

4402
04:33:52,179 --> 04:33:52,913
every intent in effort being

4403
04:33:52,913 --> 04:33:54,114
made to secure as many grants

4404
04:33:54,114 --> 04:33:57,384
as we possibly can so that they

4405
04:33:57,384 --> 04:33:58,786
can come in as a funding source

4406
04:33:58,786 --> 04:33:59,453
like it did a couple years

4407
04:33:59,453 --> 04:34:01,220
ago to lower rate increases.

4408
04:34:01,220 --> 04:34:01,722
They try to go for the maximum

4409
04:34:01,722 --> 04:34:03,722
obviously Grant opportunities

4410
04:34:04,591 --> 04:34:05,526
are available. But there's

4411
04:34:05,526 --> 04:34:06,493
never reset

4412
04:34:06,493 --> 04:34:08,662
out that you're going to

4413
04:34:08,662 --> 04:34:09,363
collect it could be 4% it could

4414
04:34:09,363 --> 04:34:12,233
be 15% whatever it is based on

4415
04:34:12,233 --> 04:34:14,633
what's available. That's right

4416
04:34:15,303 --> 04:34:17,303
and

4417
04:34:18,472 --> 04:34:18,772
that's going to affect what we

4418
04:34:18,772 --> 04:34:20,772
have.

4419
04:34:21,442 --> 04:34:22,109
Yeah we have a very minimal

4420
04:34:22,109 --> 04:34:22,843
assumption just for kind of

4421
04:34:22,843 --> 04:34:23,344
their bones grants that we feel

4422
04:34:23,344 --> 04:34:24,110
comfortable with.

4423
04:34:24,110 --> 04:34:24,678
In terms of storm water and

4424
04:34:24,678 --> 04:34:25,379
because it says since it was

4425
04:34:25,379 --> 04:34:26,460
mentioned here. What we spend

4426
04:34:26,460 --> 04:34:26,747
on the stormwater system and

4427
04:34:26,747 --> 04:34:27,381
what we need and I don't think

4428
04:34:27,381 --> 04:34:30,170
it's been covered in this

4429
04:34:30,170 --> 04:34:33,170
meeting but we've covered in

4430
04:34:33,187 --> 04:34:35,187
other

4431
04:34:38,158 --> 04:34:38,459
meetings or stormwater master

4432
04:34:38,459 --> 04:34:39,160
plan.

4433
04:34:39,160 --> 04:34:39,793
And I don't know if you're in

4434
04:34:39,793 --> 04:34:40,494
the top of our stormwater

4435
04:34:40,494 --> 04:34:41,228
master plan or someone else is

4436
04:34:41,228 --> 04:34:41,929
going to happen. The stormwater

4437
04:34:41,929 --> 04:34:44,665
master plan when we talk about

4438
04:34:44,665 --> 04:34:45,766
the needs of million a year on

4439
04:34:45,766 --> 04:34:46,466
average I think work

4440
04:34:46,466 --> 04:34:47,680
that number is coming from our

4441
04:34:47,680 --> 04:34:47,735
storm water master plan.

4442
04:34:47,735 --> 04:34:48,402
It is not be happy to invite

4443
04:34:48,402 --> 04:34:51,402
MR. Tankersley to tell every

4444
04:34:51,438 --> 04:34:52,840
life figure in the capital plan

4445
04:34:52,840 --> 04:34:53,140
so okay so

4446
04:34:53,140 --> 04:34:55,140
Clyde.

4447
04:34:55,176 --> 04:34:55,843
Why don't we talk a little bit

4448
04:34:55,843 --> 04:34:58,779
because that has seen a huge

4449
04:34:58,779 --> 04:35:01,415
increase in terms of the rates.

4450
04:35:01,415 --> 04:35:02,480
It was a long time that

4451
04:35:02,480 --> 04:35:04,351
there was no investment in

4452
04:35:04,351 --> 04:35:04,986
storm water. We know for a fact

4453
04:35:04,986 --> 04:35:05,720
that with hurricanes with

4454
04:35:05,720 --> 04:35:06,454
different rain event that we've

4455
04:35:06,454 --> 04:35:07,188
had in the city in the last 5

4456
04:35:07,188 --> 04:35:08,389
years that we all can remember

4457
04:35:08,389 --> 04:35:11,258
in terms of flooding in

4458
04:35:11,258 --> 04:35:13,258
different neighborhoods.

4459
04:35:14,528 --> 04:35:16,396
Places you name it can you put

4460
04:35:16,396 --> 04:35:18,999
the pieces together of a where

4461
04:35:18,999 --> 04:35:22,269
are we in terms of foot funding

4462
04:35:22,269 --> 04:35:23,403
the stormwater projects.

4463
04:35:23,403 --> 04:35:26,403
You know. I think it

4464
04:35:26,773 --> 04:35:27,341
was 39 or 2020, versus now what

4465
04:35:27,341 --> 04:35:28,800
is needed through

4466
04:35:28,800 --> 04:35:30,811
the plan work what are these

4467
04:35:30,811 --> 04:35:34,115
plans covering and cuts to put

4468
04:35:34,115 --> 04:35:37,351
a little bit of context of why

4469
04:35:37,351 --> 04:35:39,751
some of these increases

4470
04:35:39,886 --> 04:35:40,187
have happened in terms of storm

4471
04:35:40,187 --> 04:35:40,821
water.

4472
04:35:40,821 --> 04:35:41,488
So 10 years ago in 36 our

4473
04:35:41,488 --> 04:35:42,222
capital improvement for for

4474
04:35:42,222 --> 04:35:43,924
storm water was roughly one and

4475
04:35:43,924 --> 04:35:46,927
a half million for the whole

4476
04:35:46,927 --> 04:35:48,927
city

4477
04:35:51,265 --> 04:35:51,899
for the whole city.

4478
04:35:51,899 --> 04:35:52,599
So one and a half million

4479
04:35:52,599 --> 04:35:53,133
dollars for the whole city and

4480
04:35:53,133 --> 04:35:53,767
what is stormwater.

4481
04:35:53,767 --> 04:35:55,200
For the average person out

4482
04:35:55,200 --> 04:35:55,669
there who doesn't know what its

4483
04:35:55,669 --> 04:35:58,720
water system in storm water

4484
04:35:58,720 --> 04:35:58,806
when it when it rains and and

4485
04:35:58,806 --> 04:35:59,440
some of the waters of Jordan to

4486
04:35:59,440 --> 04:36:02,309
the ground great. Any war

4487
04:36:02,309 --> 04:36:02,877
that's not absorbed into the

4488
04:36:02,877 --> 04:36:03,577
ground

4489
04:36:03,577 --> 04:36:04,211
goes into becomes what we call

4490
04:36:04,211 --> 04:36:07,140
runoff that's what we call

4491
04:36:07,140 --> 04:36:08,150
storm water and then that's

4492
04:36:08,150 --> 04:36:08,715
usually

4493
04:36:08,715 --> 04:36:09,349
directed through our roads and

4494
04:36:09,349 --> 04:36:10,170
streets into a collection

4495
04:36:10,170 --> 04:36:12,417
system that will eventually

4496
04:36:12,819 --> 04:36:16,190
take it out to water bodies

4497
04:36:16,190 --> 04:36:19,190
like canals and bays okay

4498
04:36:19,626 --> 04:36:21,262
we invested a million dollars

4499
04:36:21,262 --> 04:36:22,129
a year in 20 with

4500
04:36:22,129 --> 04:36:22,796
36, yes 10 What has our

4501
04:36:22,796 --> 04:36:25,196
stormwater master plan show

4502
04:36:25,199 --> 04:36:28,468
that we need to invest in the

4503
04:36:28,468 --> 04:36:30,104
system in terms of projects for

4504
04:36:30,104 --> 04:36:30,838
the needs of our city

4505
04:36:30,838 --> 04:36:31,972
it's over a billion dollars and

4506
04:36:31,972 --> 04:36:33,407
over a billion over a billion

4507
04:36:33,407 --> 04:36:34,740
dollars from the stormwater

4508
04:36:34,740 --> 04:36:35,242
master plan in addition the

4509
04:36:35,242 --> 04:36:35,976
stormwater master plan we've

4510
04:36:35,976 --> 04:36:36,911
done some separate studies like

4511
04:36:36,911 --> 04:36:39,911
the Basin see study we've

4512
04:36:40,180 --> 04:36:41,715
talked a lot about that we're

4513
04:36:41,715 --> 04:36:42,583
doing some

4514
04:36:42,583 --> 04:36:44,983
projects on right now.

4515
04:36:45,553 --> 04:36:46,253
And so we're talking so you

4516
04:36:46,253 --> 04:36:47,187
know at least a billion if not

4517
04:36:47,187 --> 04:36:50,187
closer to $2 billion over the

4518
04:36:50,457 --> 04:36:53,493
next 25 years that we need to

4519
04:36:53,493 --> 04:36:55,493
do.

4520
04:36:57,197 --> 04:36:57,832
Our storm water system.

4521
04:36:57,832 --> 04:36:58,499
And what are we currently

4522
04:36:58,499 --> 04:36:58,832
investing close to about 30

4523
04:36:58,832 --> 04:36:59,767
million.

4524
04:36:59,767 --> 04:37:03,370
We're now up to 37 million with

4525
04:37:03,370 --> 04:37:04,671
what we're proposing for fiscal

4526
04:37:04,671 --> 04:37:06,540
year 27 to 37 million.

4527
04:37:06,540 --> 04:37:07,741
Which is not where we need to

4528
04:37:07,741 --> 04:37:08,508
be we need to be at roughly 50

4529
04:37:08,508 --> 04:37:10,477
million a year, but it is a

4530
04:37:10,477 --> 04:37:12,877
significant increase in the

4531
04:37:13,447 --> 04:37:14,147
last 10 years and nobody thing

4532
04:37:14,147 --> 04:37:16,150
that you're going crease that

4533
04:37:16,150 --> 04:37:16,784
immediately but right it's to

4534
04:37:16,784 --> 04:37:18,685
just give context to what.

4535
04:37:18,685 --> 04:37:21,955
Is being paid for and what the

4536
04:37:21,955 --> 04:37:22,456
reality of the needs of the

4537
04:37:22,456 --> 04:37:23,123
system is because

4538
04:37:23,123 --> 04:37:24,358
it's not clear sometimes and

4539
04:37:24,358 --> 04:37:27,628
I've had a large learning curve

4540
04:37:27,628 --> 04:37:28,280
for some of this in terms of

4541
04:37:28,280 --> 04:37:29,863
figuring out

4542
04:37:29,863 --> 04:37:30,597
what the needs are for the

4543
04:37:30,597 --> 04:37:31,331
city. What were actually paying

4544
04:37:31,331 --> 04:37:33,667
and what's not getting done and

4545
04:37:33,667 --> 04:37:35,435
so that gives a little context

4546
04:37:35,435 --> 04:37:36,404
we're paying for how about half

4547
04:37:36,404 --> 04:37:39,806
of what is really necessary for

4548
04:37:39,806 --> 04:37:40,875
storm water system based on the

4549
04:37:40,875 --> 04:37:41,775
rate right now correct

4550
04:37:41,775 --> 04:37:45,450
okay in terms of our portable

4551
04:37:45,450 --> 04:37:47,982
water which is the water that

4552
04:37:47,982 --> 04:37:49,982
we drink.

4553
04:37:51,251 --> 04:37:52,586
Right we just we talked about

4554
04:37:52,586 --> 04:37:53,687
the the city the

4555
04:37:53,687 --> 04:37:55,555
city's water plan and all that

4556
04:37:55,555 --> 04:37:56,223
what are our needs for our

4557
04:37:56,223 --> 04:37:56,824
water system that means you

4558
04:37:56,824 --> 04:37:59,224
know, I'm thinking pipes

4559
04:37:59,726 --> 04:38:02,863
obviously and all that that you

4560
04:38:02,863 --> 04:38:03,864
need to make

4561
04:38:03,864 --> 04:38:04,331
sure that people have safe

4562
04:38:04,331 --> 04:38:05,320
drinking water.

4563
04:38:05,320 --> 04:38:05,833
So we have approximately 1500

4564
04:38:05,833 --> 04:38:08,833
miles of of pipes underground

4565
04:38:08,903 --> 04:38:09,570
for a water system our drinking

4566
04:38:09,570 --> 04:38:12,439
water system. A lot of these

4567
04:38:12,439 --> 04:38:13,374
pipes were put in. Decades ago

4568
04:38:13,374 --> 04:38:15,374
some

4569
04:38:16,643 --> 04:38:17,210
of them 7500 years ago. And

4570
04:38:17,210 --> 04:38:18,311
many

4571
04:38:18,311 --> 04:38:19,130
of them of reached the end of

4572
04:38:19,130 --> 04:38:20,915
their useful life. And so over

4573
04:38:20,915 --> 04:38:24,184
time we need to go ahead and

4574
04:38:24,184 --> 04:38:26,953
try to find a way to replace

4575
04:38:26,953 --> 04:38:27,588
them. The challenge

4576
04:38:27,588 --> 04:38:28,889
with drinking water versus

4577
04:38:28,889 --> 04:38:30,657
wastewater or stormwater is

4578
04:38:30,657 --> 04:38:31,659
that with both wastewater and

4579
04:38:31,659 --> 04:38:32,726
stormwater pipes tend to be

4580
04:38:32,726 --> 04:38:35,996
bigger that can be much larger

4581
04:38:35,996 --> 04:38:36,696
in diameter and which allows us

4582
04:38:36,696 --> 04:38:37,564
the opportunity to do

4583
04:38:37,564 --> 04:38:39,399
what we call lining the pipe

4584
04:38:39,399 --> 04:38:40,100
surrounding him dig it up and

4585
04:38:40,100 --> 04:38:42,602
replace the entire pipe we can

4586
04:38:42,602 --> 04:38:44,538
put a new liner in the pipe and

4587
04:38:44,538 --> 04:38:45,739
it gives us more life into that

4588
04:38:45,739 --> 04:38:48,739
pipe. The drinking water pipes

4589
04:38:48,742 --> 04:38:49,576
are pressurized and so

4590
04:38:49,576 --> 04:38:50,277
therefore they're smaller and

4591
04:38:50,277 --> 04:38:52,677
your 6, 8, inches in diameter

4592
04:38:52,746 --> 04:38:53,981
and their pressurized and so we

4593
04:38:53,981 --> 04:38:55,480
don't really have a good

4594
04:38:55,480 --> 04:38:55,683
opportunity to do a lot of

4595
04:38:55,683 --> 04:38:56,417
aligning for those smaller

4596
04:38:56,417 --> 04:38:59,320
diameter pipes because then you

4597
04:38:59,320 --> 04:39:02,489
start losing a lot of the

4598
04:39:02,489 --> 04:39:03,157
internal

4599
04:39:03,157 --> 04:39:04,691
area and so for those pipes

4600
04:39:04,691 --> 04:39:07,528
usually we end up having to

4601
04:39:07,528 --> 04:39:08,228
actually putin new pipes to

4602
04:39:08,228 --> 04:39:10,363
replace the old ones and with

4603
04:39:10,363 --> 04:39:11,699
1500 miles of pipes that need

4604
04:39:11,699 --> 04:39:12,399
to be replaced. Many of them

4605
04:39:12,399 --> 04:39:15,268
much older than me. They they

4606
04:39:15,268 --> 04:39:18,305
are at their into their useful

4607
04:39:18,305 --> 04:39:20,174
life.

4608
04:39:20,174 --> 04:39:23,900
>> So we just had a meeting was

4609
04:39:23,900 --> 04:39:23,443
maybe the whole not that long

4610
04:39:23,443 --> 04:39:24,378
ago map of the

4611
04:39:24,378 --> 04:39:26,146
city and you saw all the

4612
04:39:26,146 --> 04:39:27,140
yellow. He sought green yellow

4613
04:39:27,140 --> 04:39:28,449
and red throughout the city of

4614
04:39:28,449 --> 04:39:29,116
a pipe system you can even see

4615
04:39:29,116 --> 04:39:30,951
the city you see the colors

4616
04:39:30,951 --> 04:39:34,321
could there that many pipes in

4617
04:39:34,321 --> 04:39:35,755
the city. Right yes, you had to

4618
04:39:35,755 --> 04:39:36,357
go and you had read right

4619
04:39:36,357 --> 04:39:39,259
talk a little bit about

4620
04:39:39,259 --> 04:39:40,861
condition in pipes in terms of

4621
04:39:40,861 --> 04:39:41,461
when you

4622
04:39:41,461 --> 04:39:43,861
see that and wrist.

4623
04:39:44,640 --> 04:39:44,731
And so we we had a consultant

4624
04:39:44,731 --> 04:39:46,933
come in and do it condition

4625
04:39:46,933 --> 04:39:47,801
analysis of all of our pipes

4626
04:39:47,801 --> 04:39:51,710
that basically to give all the

4627
04:39:51,710 --> 04:39:51,972
pipes a score. So that we can

4628
04:39:51,972 --> 04:39:52,572
know which pipes are more

4629
04:39:52,572 --> 04:39:53,373
critical or at risk than

4630
04:39:53,373 --> 04:39:56,643
others. And that's how we came

4631
04:39:56,643 --> 04:39:57,477
up with that map you saw there

4632
04:39:57,477 --> 04:39:58,511
are pipes that were shown in

4633
04:39:58,511 --> 04:40:00,380
red with the most critical

4634
04:40:00,380 --> 04:40:02,150
we're going to be putting our

4635
04:40:02,150 --> 04:40:02,682
efforts and you know in the

4636
04:40:02,682 --> 04:40:05,586
beginning the pipes that are

4637
04:40:05,586 --> 04:40:06,720
yellow can maybe last a little

4638
04:40:06,720 --> 04:40:08,720
longer

4639
04:40:10,900 --> 04:40:10,891
pipes or green or are ok for

4640
04:40:10,891 --> 04:40:11,859
now. And what we did

4641
04:40:11,859 --> 04:40:12,526
in then do is prioritize that

4642
04:40:12,526 --> 04:40:14,270
the replacement those pipes,

4643
04:40:14,270 --> 04:40:14,795
there's several things that

4644
04:40:14,795 --> 04:40:18,165
would make a pipe necessary for

4645
04:40:18,165 --> 04:40:19,633
priority for replacement one

4646
04:40:19,633 --> 04:40:20,300
would be the age obviously

4647
04:40:20,300 --> 04:40:22,802
one would be the material is

4648
04:40:22,802 --> 04:40:26,730
made out of lot of the older

4649
04:40:26,730 --> 04:40:26,606
pipes were made out of what we

4650
04:40:26,606 --> 04:40:27,808
call cast iron. Cast

4651
04:40:27,808 --> 04:40:30,444
iron is is very brittle.

4652
04:40:30,444 --> 04:40:33,413
It gets old quickly it's it's

4653
04:40:33,413 --> 04:40:34,281
very corrosive both on the

4654
04:40:34,281 --> 04:40:36,150
inside and the outside. Also

4655
04:40:36,150 --> 04:40:37,117
where the pipe is located if a

4656
04:40:37,117 --> 04:40:38,551
pipe is located in an area

4657
04:40:38,551 --> 04:40:40,420
where it's constantly

4658
04:40:40,420 --> 04:40:41,121
underground water, particularly

4659
04:40:41,121 --> 04:40:41,789
if it's constantly under salty

4660
04:40:41,789 --> 04:40:44,789
groundwater like it is along

4661
04:40:44,991 --> 04:40:46,627
our coastal communities like

4662
04:40:46,627 --> 04:40:47,327
Riviera Bay, shore

4663
04:40:47,327 --> 04:40:49,620
acres cookie mckee those pipes

4664
04:40:49,620 --> 04:40:51,231
actually don't last as long as

4665
04:40:51,231 --> 04:40:51,865
the pipes that are in the

4666
04:40:51,865 --> 04:40:54,200
interior part of the city

4667
04:40:54,200 --> 04:40:54,902
because they're constantly

4668
04:40:54,902 --> 04:40:55,569
exposed to this corrosive salt

4669
04:40:55,569 --> 04:40:58,338
water environment and so by

4670
04:40:58,338 --> 04:40:58,906
having the consultants to do

4671
04:40:58,906 --> 04:40:59,873
this

4672
04:40:59,873 --> 04:41:00,573
analysis for us and give us a a

4673
04:41:00,573 --> 04:41:03,444
score for our pipes allows us

4674
04:41:03,444 --> 04:41:05,312
to know where to prioritize

4675
04:41:05,312 --> 04:41:05,979
them.

4676
04:41:05,979 --> 04:41:07,881
>> Thank you for that and I

4677
04:41:07,881 --> 04:41:08,615
asked a lot of questions but is

4678
04:41:08,615 --> 04:41:11,551
a lot of information every time

4679
04:41:11,551 --> 04:41:12,686
we're going through this I

4680
04:41:12,686 --> 04:41:13,353
think it is important

4681
04:41:13,353 --> 04:41:14,540
because I'm always learning

4682
04:41:14,540 --> 04:41:14,855
about our system and our storm

4683
04:41:14,855 --> 04:41:17,257
water and everything and giving

4684
04:41:17,257 --> 04:41:20,527
it contacts is important to be

4685
04:41:20,527 --> 04:41:21,228
from these conversations

4686
04:41:21,228 --> 04:41:21,861
because it is critical

4687
04:41:21,861 --> 04:41:24,264
for a city for everyone to

4688
04:41:24,264 --> 04:41:25,132
understand what we're investing

4689
04:41:25,132 --> 04:41:25,833
in why we're investing and what

4690
04:41:25,833 --> 04:41:26,500
you're paying for and so this

4691
04:41:26,500 --> 04:41:29,102
is part of the conversation

4692
04:41:29,102 --> 04:41:29,970
we're having because there are

4693
04:41:29,970 --> 04:41:30,738
lots of good questions or ask

4694
04:41:30,738 --> 04:41:33,240
your today by residents and so

4695
04:41:33,240 --> 04:41:34,441
I think that gives at least a

4696
04:41:34,441 --> 04:41:36,509
little bit more context and now

4697
04:41:36,509 --> 04:41:39,509
it's members want to speak

4698
04:41:39,680 --> 04:41:40,447
after I've spoken. So with that

4699
04:41:40,447 --> 04:41:41,649
I'll pass it over council

4700
04:41:41,649 --> 04:41:44,649
member driskell is not here

4701
04:41:44,918 --> 04:41:48,121
right now so I'll pass it over

4702
04:41:48,121 --> 04:41:48,989
to vice chair Floyd.

4703
04:41:48,989 --> 04:41:52,392
I don't know what and people

4704
04:41:52,392 --> 04:41:55,528
started moving around and I can

4705
04:41:55,528 --> 04:41:57,528
go right now.

4706
04:41:59,660 --> 04:42:02,369
>> Thank you for all of that

4707
04:42:02,369 --> 04:42:04,369
information.

4708
04:42:07,107 --> 04:42:07,808
>> Really just put myself on

4709
04:42:07,808 --> 04:42:08,542
here to say a couple of things

4710
04:42:08,542 --> 04:42:10,844
first. As has been demonstrated

4711
04:42:10,844 --> 04:42:13,844
by sure Hannah what's that

4712
04:42:14,140 --> 04:42:14,948
there's a lot

4713
04:42:14,948 --> 04:42:17,584
of investment needed in the

4714
04:42:17,584 --> 04:42:18,285
system.

4715
04:42:18,285 --> 04:42:18,718
That's And on for a while and

4716
04:42:18,718 --> 04:42:19,620
also want to.

4717
04:42:19,620 --> 04:42:22,122
Point out that used to be I

4718
04:42:22,122 --> 04:42:22,789
believe I don't know 4050 years

4719
04:42:22,789 --> 04:42:23,757
ago, there was a lot more

4720
04:42:23,757 --> 04:42:26,757
investment in the system from

4721
04:42:27,270 --> 04:42:29,427
other sources like federal

4722
04:42:30,296 --> 04:42:32,990
government and whatnot I

4723
04:42:32,990 --> 04:42:34,268
think it's swat from something

4724
04:42:34,268 --> 04:42:35,268
like. After the Clean Water Act

4725
04:42:35,268 --> 04:42:37,604
passed 90% of investment from

4726
04:42:37,604 --> 04:42:40,407
the feds and now it's swaps to

4727
04:42:40,407 --> 04:42:41,274
only 10% investment so that's

4728
04:42:41,274 --> 04:42:41,975
frustrating that we get put in

4729
04:42:41,975 --> 04:42:44,844
that position. So I definitely

4730
04:42:44,844 --> 04:42:49,440
see the need for us to invest.

4731
04:42:49,916 --> 04:42:50,684
But my point is that I'd

4732
04:42:50,684 --> 04:42:51,552
made specifically around our

4733
04:42:51,552 --> 04:42:54,552
water system have been about

4734
04:42:54,822 --> 04:42:56,724
how we do that investment and

4735
04:42:56,724 --> 04:42:58,659
how it eases the burden.

4736
04:42:58,659 --> 04:43:01,195
So today really just wanted to

4737
04:43:01,195 --> 04:43:02,128
say like that I look forward to

4738
04:43:02,128 --> 04:43:05,310
over the next year having

4739
04:43:05,310 --> 04:43:05,999
discussions about the kind of

4740
04:43:05,999 --> 04:43:07,100
things that I think a couple of

4741
04:43:07,100 --> 04:43:09,837
speakers touched on so the base

4742
04:43:09,837 --> 04:43:13,106
rates are treated lower in the

4743
04:43:13,106 --> 04:43:13,740
past and I was very grateful

4744
04:43:13,740 --> 04:43:14,407
for but I you know I want

4745
04:43:14,407 --> 04:43:16,807
to have further discussions

4746
04:43:16,944 --> 04:43:17,911
about you know seeing if we put

4747
04:43:17,911 --> 04:43:20,213
them at the right level or we

4748
04:43:20,213 --> 04:43:21,748
can lower the more and then the

4749
04:43:21,748 --> 04:43:23,917
potential of transferring the

4750
04:43:23,917 --> 04:43:27,120
payment in lieu of taxes and

4751
04:43:27,120 --> 04:43:30,391
the payment of fees back into

4752
04:43:30,391 --> 04:43:33,560
the fund I recognize that has a

4753
04:43:33,560 --> 04:43:34,428
impact on the city's budget.

4754
04:43:34,428 --> 04:43:36,196
So maybe it's something that we

4755
04:43:36,196 --> 04:43:37,931
face in over years, but those

4756
04:43:37,931 --> 04:43:41,201
are the things that I am going

4757
04:43:41,201 --> 04:43:42,202
to continue to advocate for

4758
04:43:42,202 --> 04:43:43,203
ands

4759
04:43:43,203 --> 04:43:45,806
I think you know got bumped up

4760
04:43:45,806 --> 04:43:46,473
on the list so I didn't have

4761
04:43:46,473 --> 04:43:49,473
the rest of my thoughts

4762
04:43:49,743 --> 04:43:50,510
gathered quite yet, but that's

4763
04:43:50,510 --> 04:43:51,245
all I wanted to indicate an

4764
04:43:51,245 --> 04:43:54,447
and so that I think that we can

4765
04:43:54,447 --> 04:43:54,747
do a better job of stuff, how

4766
04:43:54,747 --> 04:43:55,449
we pay

4767
04:43:55,449 --> 04:43:58,852
for these things in the future

4768
04:43:58,852 --> 04:44:02,122
because I think that there are

4769
04:44:02,122 --> 04:44:03,924
ways to lessen the impact

4770
04:44:03,924 --> 04:44:04,324
and that's what I'll continue

4771
04:44:04,324 --> 04:44:04,924
to push for.

4772
04:44:04,924 --> 04:44:06,590
But a record for me if I

4773
04:44:06,590 --> 04:44:07,160
thought I could add a comment

4774
04:44:07,160 --> 04:44:07,761
to that Sir thank you vice

4775
04:44:07,761 --> 04:44:10,664
chair. Thank you for for

4776
04:44:10,664 --> 04:44:13,664
bringing up the federal grants.

4777
04:44:14,168 --> 04:44:14,835
When I started my career back

4778
04:44:14,835 --> 04:44:17,704
in the 1980's, it was still

4779
04:44:17,704 --> 04:44:18,405
relatively soon after the Clean

4780
04:44:18,405 --> 04:44:19,206
water acts

4781
04:44:19,206 --> 04:44:20,841
came out the 1970's and the

4782
04:44:20,841 --> 04:44:23,241
federal government was pouring

4783
04:44:23,677 --> 04:44:24,377
billions of dollars into into

4784
04:44:24,377 --> 04:44:25,111
infrastructure water, drinking

4785
04:44:25,111 --> 04:44:27,181
water and sewer infrastructure.

4786
04:44:27,181 --> 04:44:27,714
Remember in the beginning of my

4787
04:44:27,714 --> 04:44:30,114
career I worked with

4788
04:44:30,750 --> 04:44:33,150
communities that we're getting

4789
04:44:33,954 --> 04:44:35,823
5061 community 90%.

4790
04:44:35,823 --> 04:44:36,523
90% of their infrastructure

4791
04:44:36,523 --> 04:44:39,523
work was being funded through

4792
04:44:39,626 --> 04:44:40,126
federal grants because of the

4793
04:44:40,126 --> 04:44:42,620
clean and drinking

4794
04:44:42,620 --> 04:44:42,930
water acts back in the 1980's

4795
04:44:42,930 --> 04:44:44,310
70's. That is not the case

4796
04:44:44,310 --> 04:44:46,866
anymore as you said that is not

4797
04:44:46,866 --> 04:44:47,534
the case anymore now we're

4798
04:44:47,534 --> 04:44:49,702
really lucky, we're really

4799
04:44:49,702 --> 04:44:52,702
grateful if we get anywhere

4800
04:44:52,973 --> 04:44:53,506
from 5 to 10% in one year or

4801
04:44:53,506 --> 04:44:54,741
between

4802
04:44:54,741 --> 04:44:55,708
one 5% over a 10 year period.

4803
04:44:55,708 --> 04:44:56,410
So its really flipped the

4804
04:44:56,410 --> 04:44:57,377
script us flips significantly

4805
04:44:57,377 --> 04:45:00,747
and that's another one of the

4806
04:45:00,747 --> 04:45:03,747
reasons why we're seeing these

4807
04:45:05,785 --> 04:45:06,487
these costs now.

4808
04:45:06,487 --> 04:45:07,221
I appreciate that yeah and I I

4809
04:45:07,221 --> 04:45:08,622
brought that up because I don't

4810
04:45:08,622 --> 04:45:10,824
want to discredit like the pain

4811
04:45:10,824 --> 04:45:12,793
that people feel like I feel it

4812
04:45:12,793 --> 04:45:15,328
as well when I have to for my

4813
04:45:15,328 --> 04:45:18,328
household. But you know we

4814
04:45:18,598 --> 04:45:20,334
acknowledge why things like

4815
04:45:20,334 --> 04:45:21,100
this go on but I definitely

4816
04:45:21,100 --> 04:45:21,735
still like think that we can

4817
04:45:21,735 --> 04:45:22,635
come together over the next few

4818
04:45:22,635 --> 04:45:26,500
years and figure out a more

4819
04:45:26,500 --> 04:45:27,774
equitable way to do this.

4820
04:45:27,774 --> 04:45:28,641
But I when I

4821
04:45:28,641 --> 04:45:29,742
do that advocacy I want also

4822
04:45:29,742 --> 04:45:30,510
make clear that I understand

4823
04:45:30,510 --> 04:45:33,781
the need for the investment and

4824
04:45:33,781 --> 04:45:36,781
that's why I brought the 2

4825
04:45:37,500 --> 04:45:40,500
together at the same time.

4826
04:45:42,222 --> 04:45:43,857
>> I keep moving around on the

4827
04:45:43,857 --> 04:45:44,824
board sound I got all of you,

4828
04:45:44,824 --> 04:45:49,624
but you are you yeah, I know I

4829
04:45:51,131 --> 04:45:54,731
did. Yeah I'm very sorry about

4830
04:45:54,968 --> 04:45:56,536
>> Thank you and thank you for

4831
04:45:56,536 --> 04:45:58,171
the presentations and and for

4832
04:45:58,171 --> 04:46:01,474
all the work he did starting a

4833
04:46:01,474 --> 04:46:04,644
year ago to get us to the point

4834
04:46:04,644 --> 04:46:07,440
a lot has changed.

4835
04:46:07,881 --> 04:46:09,549
Over the last year.

4836
04:46:09,549 --> 04:46:12,549
And I'm not in the

4837
04:46:12,953 --> 04:46:16,230
same place where I was a year

4838
04:46:16,230 --> 04:46:16,656
ago with our utility rates.

4839
04:46:16,656 --> 04:46:18,525
Vice chair Floyd I really

4840
04:46:18,525 --> 04:46:21,525
appreciate the advocacy and the

4841
04:46:21,795 --> 04:46:22,462
points that have been brought

4842
04:46:22,462 --> 04:46:23,229
up about making changes and

4843
04:46:23,229 --> 04:46:26,229
working together to make this

4844
04:46:26,500 --> 04:46:26,899
more equitable make things more

4845
04:46:26,899 --> 04:46:28,899
affordable.

4846
04:46:30,103 --> 04:46:32,639
Put the money in its proper

4847
04:46:32,639 --> 04:46:34,639
place.

4848
04:46:35,975 --> 04:46:39,279
You can only say let's start

4849
04:46:39,279 --> 04:46:42,279
next year. So many times.

4850
04:46:42,583 --> 04:46:45,852
We know how much people are

4851
04:46:45,852 --> 04:46:46,419
being squeezed.

4852
04:46:46,419 --> 04:46:48,419
The this city

4853
04:46:49,756 --> 04:46:53,356
is having to tighten its belt.

4854
04:46:54,193 --> 04:46:54,895
Unfortunately a lot of our

4855
04:46:54,895 --> 04:46:57,895
residents to see where that's

4856
04:46:58,165 --> 04:47:00,000
happening. And so you see a

4857
04:47:00,000 --> 04:47:02,000
higher bill.

4858
04:47:03,336 --> 04:47:06,673
Aaron the see no potential for

4859
04:47:06,673 --> 04:47:09,409
the rates to increase and

4860
04:47:09,409 --> 04:47:10,430
and they don't see any sign

4861
04:47:10,430 --> 04:47:12,443
that the administration is

4862
04:47:12,512 --> 04:47:14,214
trying to cut expenses were

4863
04:47:14,214 --> 04:47:14,781
scaled back on what can be

4864
04:47:14,781 --> 04:47:15,449
scaled back on before

4865
04:47:15,449 --> 04:47:17,183
increasing rates, it's just

4866
04:47:17,183 --> 04:47:18,151
going straight to the increase.

4867
04:47:18,151 --> 04:47:21,455
And I think people are tired of

4868
04:47:21,455 --> 04:47:24,591
it. I think that's what we're

4869
04:47:24,591 --> 04:47:26,591
hearing. Right now.

4870
04:47:28,428 --> 04:47:29,129
You know our costs go up.

4871
04:47:29,129 --> 04:47:31,529
Everyone understands that but

4872
04:47:31,832 --> 04:47:32,432
the costs are going up for

4873
04:47:32,432 --> 04:47:35,335
residents to and I think

4874
04:47:35,335 --> 04:47:36,536
they're at a breaking point

4875
04:47:36,536 --> 04:47:38,536
now.

4876
04:47:39,472 --> 04:47:40,474
Another thing I'm thinking

4877
04:47:40,474 --> 04:47:43,743
about is. That we're working on

4878
04:47:43,743 --> 04:47:46,143
hitting residents from 3 sides.

4879
04:47:50,217 --> 04:47:53,217
So we've got utility rates.

4880
04:47:54,200 --> 04:47:55,888
No reduction of the millage

4881
04:47:55,888 --> 04:47:57,888
rate.

4882
04:47:59,159 --> 04:48:00,694
Which means everyone's going to

4883
04:48:00,694 --> 04:48:01,361
be paying all that and more

4884
04:48:01,361 --> 04:48:04,597
on their taxes. And then in

4885
04:48:04,597 --> 04:48:05,298
NOVEMBER. We're going to ask

4886
04:48:05,298 --> 04:48:08,298
them for permission to borrow

4887
04:48:08,401 --> 04:48:10,801
hundreds of millions of

4888
04:48:10,870 --> 04:48:12,870
dollars. 4.

4889
04:48:13,707 --> 04:48:16,707
Improvements such as the ones

4890
04:48:16,977 --> 04:48:19,846
that are. In the presentation.

4891
04:48:19,846 --> 04:48:22,846
I'm not saying that these

4892
04:48:23,116 --> 04:48:26,116
things aren't needed. It's just

4893
04:48:26,252 --> 04:48:28,252
that.

4894
04:48:29,423 --> 04:48:31,423
When you're getting

4895
04:48:32,892 --> 04:48:35,892
charge more you're having too

4896
04:48:36,290 --> 04:48:37,300
right a bigger check

4897
04:48:37,300 --> 04:48:39,430
to the local government.

4898
04:48:40,300 --> 04:48:42,300
Potentially in 3 different

4899
04:48:43,336 --> 04:48:45,336
ways.

4900
04:48:49,142 --> 04:48:49,876
Its it's no surprise.

4901
04:48:49,876 --> 04:48:50,176
And there is some opposition to

4902
04:48:50,176 --> 04:48:52,176
that.

4903
04:48:53,179 --> 04:48:54,748
And if we had a more modest

4904
04:48:54,748 --> 04:48:56,149
increase this year just

4905
04:48:56,149 --> 04:48:56,816
to give people a little bit of

4906
04:48:56,816 --> 04:48:57,517
a break. If we were reducing

4907
04:48:57,517 --> 04:49:00,186
the millage rate just a little

4908
04:49:00,186 --> 04:49:03,423
bit to give people a little bit

4909
04:49:03,423 --> 04:49:06,559
of a break. I would feel much

4910
04:49:06,559 --> 04:49:08,559
better about this.

4911
04:49:08,628 --> 04:49:11,998
But as it stands right now.

4912
04:49:11,998 --> 04:49:13,433
I think it looks too much like

4913
04:49:13,433 --> 04:49:14,968
we're asking for more.

4914
04:49:14,968 --> 04:49:17,270
That we're not showing. The

4915
04:49:17,270 --> 04:49:20,540
extent to which we can be more

4916
04:49:20,540 --> 04:49:21,975
responsible with money that we

4917
04:49:21,975 --> 04:49:22,642
do receive.

4918
04:49:22,642 --> 04:49:24,577
From our residents. And you

4919
04:49:24,577 --> 04:49:26,246
guys refer to them or us rate

4920
04:49:26,246 --> 04:49:27,213
pairs, but these are people and

4921
04:49:27,213 --> 04:49:30,550
I want to make sure that we

4922
04:49:30,550 --> 04:49:33,550
remember that and their people

4923
04:49:33,553 --> 04:49:35,553
who and could

4924
04:49:36,522 --> 04:49:37,190
be on a fixed income. You just

4925
04:49:37,190 --> 04:49:40,127
welcomed a new baby into the

4926
04:49:40,127 --> 04:49:42,428
House trying to figure that out

4927
04:49:42,428 --> 04:49:44,828
kids going to college.

4928
04:49:45,699 --> 04:49:46,899
These regular people problems

4929
04:49:46,899 --> 04:49:48,899
are everybody's problems.

4930
04:49:50,170 --> 04:49:53,339
And there's not enough money to

4931
04:49:53,339 --> 04:49:55,339
go around.

4932
04:49:56,510 --> 04:49:59,510
I think it would be.

4933
04:50:00,580 --> 04:50:03,850
Tough for us. But fair and

4934
04:50:03,850 --> 04:50:06,987
helpful if we could just skip

4935
04:50:06,987 --> 04:50:08,987
one year.

4936
04:50:09,220 --> 04:50:10,890
We've also Kite amendment 3 on

4937
04:50:10,890 --> 04:50:10,757
the ballot. We don't know what

4938
04:50:10,757 --> 04:50:11,458
that's going to look like we

4939
04:50:11,458 --> 04:50:14,127
don't know if these rates are

4940
04:50:14,127 --> 04:50:14,794
going to look like next year

4941
04:50:14,794 --> 04:50:17,697
because of that. But gosh we

4942
04:50:17,697 --> 04:50:20,600
got to give people a break

4943
04:50:20,600 --> 04:50:22,600
somewhere.

4944
04:50:23,536 --> 04:50:25,838
I'm the timing is just terrible

4945
04:50:25,838 --> 04:50:29,242
right now with these all of

4946
04:50:29,242 --> 04:50:30,978
these different elements

4947
04:50:30,978 --> 04:50:33,378
happening at once. So.

4948
04:50:34,281 --> 04:50:37,550
So today, I'm going to I'm

4949
04:50:37,550 --> 04:50:39,652
going to vote no on this.

4950
04:50:39,652 --> 04:50:41,721
And I might be the only one.

4951
04:50:41,721 --> 04:50:44,891
But I want to make sure that

4952
04:50:44,891 --> 04:50:45,859
people know that they've been

4953
04:50:45,859 --> 04:50:47,493
heard that I hear them and that

4954
04:50:47,493 --> 04:50:50,563
I really I understand as a

4955
04:50:50,563 --> 04:50:51,564
resident myself how difficult

4956
04:50:51,564 --> 04:50:54,401
this is when you're looking at

4957
04:50:54,401 --> 04:50:55,502
bigger bills coming from the

4958
04:50:55,502 --> 04:50:57,570
government and not a whole lot

4959
04:50:57,570 --> 04:50:58,771
to show for it. So that's where

4960
04:50:58,771 --> 04:51:02,740
I stand on this. Thank you

4961
04:51:02,740 --> 04:51:03,576
MADAM Chair. Thank you

4962
04:51:03,576 --> 04:51:05,576
councilmember Curtis picture.

4963
04:51:05,778 --> 04:51:08,778
Thank you for the presentation

4964
04:51:09,148 --> 04:51:12,148
and thanks for everybody coming

4965
04:51:12,419 --> 04:51:16,190
out this evening. So I want

4966
04:51:20,359 --> 04:51:20,961
to piggyback a little bit on.

4967
04:51:20,961 --> 04:51:23,361
Chair's comments and so.

4968
04:51:23,496 --> 04:51:24,497
And this might be for Claude or

4969
04:51:24,497 --> 04:51:25,165
it I

4970
04:51:25,165 --> 04:51:27,565
think anybody could probably

4971
04:51:28,200 --> 04:51:29,302
answer this question is that a

4972
04:51:29,302 --> 04:51:29,869
is that a fair statement that

4973
04:51:29,869 --> 04:51:31,171
operationally and the

4974
04:51:31,171 --> 04:51:32,472
operations budget over the last

4975
04:51:32,472 --> 04:51:34,107
we'll just use the last 3

4976
04:51:34,107 --> 04:51:36,410
because it's the quickest ones

4977
04:51:36,410 --> 04:51:37,770
I could look up the operation

4978
04:51:37,770 --> 04:51:39,477
budget has stayed relatively

4979
04:51:39,946 --> 04:51:41,781
flat inside of water resources

4980
04:51:41,781 --> 04:51:42,482
and storm water over the last 3

4981
04:51:42,482 --> 04:51:45,318
years and maybe even decreased

4982
04:51:45,318 --> 04:51:49,518
a little bit I think in store.

4983
04:51:51,491 --> 04:51:54,393
>> I think it's generally true

4984
04:51:54,393 --> 04:51:55,561
without having the numbers we

4985
04:51:55,561 --> 04:51:56,262
got to be council member but

4986
04:51:56,262 --> 04:51:56,530
I think it's a fair statement

4987
04:51:56,530 --> 04:51:57,730
so.

4988
04:51:57,730 --> 04:51:58,732
I only have the numbers in

4989
04:51:58,732 --> 04:52:01,133
front of me from the last year

4990
04:52:01,133 --> 04:52:04,404
and this year, but also from

4991
04:52:04,404 --> 04:52:06,273
the presentation that we had we

4992
04:52:06,273 --> 04:52:08,273
did show that

4993
04:52:08,475 --> 04:52:11,711
for for the labor, a portion of

4994
04:52:11,711 --> 04:52:12,378
the budgets we went I think for

4995
04:52:12,378 --> 04:52:14,778
water resources for them

4996
04:52:15,140 --> 04:52:16,449
from 47 million to just around

4997
04:52:16,449 --> 04:52:18,849
49 million right to relatively

4998
04:52:19,819 --> 04:52:22,989
flat. It is a 6% increase, but

4999
04:52:22,989 --> 04:52:25,389
it's a relatively flat

5000
04:52:25,592 --> 04:52:26,920
overall operation we all

5001
04:52:26,920 --> 04:52:26,760
operate like a 3%.

5002
04:52:26,760 --> 04:52:28,995
Yeah and we were not adding

5003
04:52:28,995 --> 04:52:32,164
staff and this this is just the

5004
04:52:32,164 --> 04:52:34,367
cost of of doing the

5005
04:52:34,367 --> 04:52:34,668
business with the staff we have

5006
04:52:34,668 --> 04:52:35,335
okay.

5007
04:52:35,335 --> 04:52:36,235
And so it again fair to say

5008
04:52:36,235 --> 04:52:39,206
that the increases that were

5009
04:52:39,206 --> 04:52:41,374
absorbing in the ute in the

5010
04:52:41,374 --> 04:52:42,375
proposed utility rate is

5011
04:52:42,375 --> 04:52:43,420
because of investments in

5012
04:52:43,420 --> 04:52:45,442
capital expenditures and not

5013
04:52:45,912 --> 04:52:48,912
operation is the heavy portion

5014
04:52:48,948 --> 04:52:50,350
of it.

5015
04:52:50,350 --> 04:52:50,984
For water resources and storm

5016
04:52:50,984 --> 04:52:51,718
water they're very largely

5017
04:52:51,718 --> 04:52:52,418
capital driven. The only caveat

5018
04:52:52,418 --> 04:52:55,354
with sanitation is the tipping

5019
04:52:55,354 --> 04:52:57,754
fee increased threat. Yeah.

5020
04:52:58,391 --> 04:53:00,391
Yeah.

5021
04:53:04,464 --> 04:53:06,464
>> 2027, we're proposing a $111

5022
04:53:07,968 --> 04:53:08,835
million in capital expenditure.

5023
04:53:08,835 --> 04:53:11,235
Inside of water resources

5024
04:53:12,105 --> 04:53:13,873
and $44 million inside of.

5025
04:53:13,873 --> 04:53:15,873
Storm water correct.

5026
04:53:16,609 --> 04:53:17,243
And so based on the plan that

5027
04:53:17,243 --> 04:53:20,146
we were just talking about

5028
04:53:20,146 --> 04:53:21,381
during chair's comments a few

5029
04:53:21,381 --> 04:53:23,149
water plan how much

5030
04:53:23,149 --> 04:53:23,816
should we be spending to keep

5031
04:53:23,816 --> 04:53:24,818
our level of service

5032
04:53:24,818 --> 04:53:27,818
essentially the same on annual

5033
04:53:28,880 --> 04:53:29,688
basis for water resources and

5034
04:53:29,688 --> 04:53:30,724
storm water.

5035
04:53:30,724 --> 04:53:32,458
>> Well based on what I've got

5036
04:53:32,458 --> 04:53:35,728
in front of him and say it's

5037
04:53:35,728 --> 04:53:38,128
about around numbers, a 150

5038
04:53:38,598 --> 04:53:39,299
million a year for water

5039
04:53:39,299 --> 04:53:39,766
resources and about 15 million

5040
04:53:39,766 --> 04:53:41,534
year for storm.

5041
04:53:41,534 --> 04:53:42,401
So we're 5th Mott what's caught

5042
04:53:42,401 --> 04:53:44,801
40 to 45% underneath the water

5043
04:53:45,571 --> 04:53:47,571
resources number and

5044
04:53:48,675 --> 04:53:50,675
approximately.

5045
04:53:51,978 --> 04:53:52,812
11% short on the storm water.

5046
04:53:52,812 --> 04:53:53,780
Just call it 10.

5047
04:53:53,780 --> 04:53:57,150
Well I think that's fair from

5048
04:53:57,150 --> 04:54:00,150
the target from the target.

5049
04:54:00,486 --> 04:54:01,120
And so you know, listen.

5050
04:54:01,120 --> 04:54:02,755
I said this earlier today.

5051
04:54:02,755 --> 04:54:05,291
Nobody wants to raise rates.

5052
04:54:05,291 --> 04:54:05,926
I don't want to do it I don't

5053
04:54:05,926 --> 04:54:08,361
want to do it to people I

5054
04:54:08,361 --> 04:54:11,597
selfishly I don't want to do it

5055
04:54:11,597 --> 04:54:13,599
to me. It's not fun. This is

5056
04:54:13,599 --> 04:54:16,336
not a fun thing. But when you

5057
04:54:16,336 --> 04:54:16,936
see stats of 27 years of no

5058
04:54:16,936 --> 04:54:17,637
increases 18 years of no

5059
04:54:17,637 --> 04:54:19,505
increases unfortunately, we're

5060
04:54:19,505 --> 04:54:21,141
the ones that signed up to make

5061
04:54:21,141 --> 04:54:21,808
the hard decisions of what you

5062
04:54:21,808 --> 04:54:23,109
do do you let the system

5063
04:54:23,109 --> 04:54:26,379
continue to get worse or you

5064
04:54:26,379 --> 04:54:27,547
try to move the needle to try

5065
04:54:27,547 --> 04:54:29,882
to make it better.

5066
04:54:29,882 --> 04:54:30,550
>> And that and I don't I don't

5067
04:54:30,550 --> 04:54:32,850
like upsetting people that I

5068
04:54:32,850 --> 04:54:33,190
don't go home happy about this.

5069
04:54:33,190 --> 04:54:36,355
But I think at the end of the

5070
04:54:36,355 --> 04:54:37,890
day. What I'm not going to be

5071
04:54:37,890 --> 04:54:39,859
happy about is if we continue

5072
04:54:39,859 --> 04:54:42,280
to drag because what I don't

5073
04:54:42,280 --> 04:54:45,280
want to happen is 2016 again

5074
04:54:45,331 --> 04:54:47,166
what I don't want to happen.

5075
04:54:47,166 --> 04:54:48,168
Is our water system fails

5076
04:54:48,168 --> 04:54:51,168
that that's the worst case

5077
04:54:51,438 --> 04:54:52,205
scenario that I'm just not

5078
04:54:52,205 --> 04:54:54,605
willing by sure Floyd

5079
04:54:55,175 --> 04:54:55,875
I'm looking forward to having

5080
04:54:55,875 --> 04:54:56,609
those conversations to try to

5081
04:54:56,609 --> 04:54:57,576
figure that out and and I think

5082
04:54:57,576 --> 04:55:00,847
your comments were right on but

5083
04:55:00,847 --> 04:55:02,282
at the same time you see the

5084
04:55:02,282 --> 04:55:04,282
need

5085
04:55:05,652 --> 04:55:08,955
right and so that's where on at

5086
04:55:08,955 --> 04:55:12,555
this point and and you know.

5087
04:55:14,227 --> 04:55:14,927
I also just.

5088
04:55:14,927 --> 04:55:15,595
The only thing that we haven't

5089
04:55:15,595 --> 04:55:15,962
really talked about at this

5090
04:55:15,962 --> 04:55:16,629
point is.

5091
04:55:16,629 --> 04:55:18,364
I think all of us appreciate

5092
04:55:18,364 --> 04:55:19,332
everybody that shows up in the

5093
04:55:19,332 --> 04:55:21,200
e-mails we get yes if you

5094
04:55:21,200 --> 04:55:24,503
still here we have your e-mail

5095
04:55:24,503 --> 04:55:27,774
your phone number we have we

5096
04:55:27,774 --> 04:55:30,430
got all about today. And so.

5097
04:55:30,430 --> 04:55:32,430
You know.

5098
04:55:33,790 --> 04:55:33,879
But at the end of the day.

5099
04:55:33,879 --> 04:55:35,414
We have to make sure

5100
04:55:35,414 --> 04:55:38,585
that it continues to work and

5101
04:55:38,585 --> 04:55:39,285
if we continue to underfunded

5102
04:55:39,285 --> 04:55:40,353
it there will be a point where

5103
04:55:40,353 --> 04:55:43,589
it will stop working. And that

5104
04:55:43,589 --> 04:55:46,826
is the worst case scenario and

5105
04:55:46,826 --> 04:55:47,393
so you know again. I.

5106
04:55:47,393 --> 04:55:50,329
I'll say it's not it's

5107
04:55:50,329 --> 04:55:51,970
not fun. But at the end of the

5108
04:55:51,970 --> 04:55:53,970
day

5109
04:55:53,900 --> 04:55:57,170
we have had. How many committee

5110
04:55:57,170 --> 04:55:57,637
of the whole how many different

5111
04:55:57,637 --> 04:55:58,805
he's 3.

5112
04:55:58,805 --> 04:55:59,705
And 2 committee as the holes.

5113
04:55:59,705 --> 04:56:01,705
So 3, 3 committee meetings

5114
04:56:02,341 --> 04:56:05,341
inside a budget finance and

5115
04:56:05,478 --> 04:56:06,145
taxation to committee of the

5116
04:56:06,145 --> 04:56:06,779
holes and now and I think we

5117
04:56:06,779 --> 04:56:09,582
got an Council and a first

5118
04:56:09,582 --> 04:56:12,582
reading and now a second

5119
04:56:12,619 --> 04:56:13,386
reading.

5120
04:56:13,386 --> 04:56:15,386
To chairs point

5121
04:56:16,656 --> 04:56:19,656
this is a conversation we're

5122
04:56:19,692 --> 04:56:20,559
having

5123
04:56:20,559 --> 04:56:23,430
pretty much at all times.

5124
04:56:23,430 --> 04:56:24,663
It's it standing takes up 3

5125
04:56:24,663 --> 04:56:27,934
months and be a fun t

5126
04:56:27,934 --> 04:56:28,601
out of the 12 months and so

5127
04:56:28,601 --> 04:56:29,568
it's not a conversation that

5128
04:56:29,568 --> 04:56:30,436
just appears either and I and I

5129
04:56:30,436 --> 04:56:31,971
say that and committees are

5130
04:56:31,971 --> 04:56:32,672
tough because there is no

5131
04:56:32,672 --> 04:56:35,375
public input other than emails

5132
04:56:35,375 --> 04:56:38,375
or phone calls or neighborhood

5133
04:56:38,611 --> 04:56:39,946
meetings that we're at so I

5134
04:56:39,946 --> 04:56:40,713
understand that part

5135
04:56:40,713 --> 04:56:43,683
but I also just wanted to be

5136
04:56:43,683 --> 04:56:46,419
said that. We are continuously

5137
04:56:46,419 --> 04:56:47,860
talking about and it takes a

5138
04:56:47,860 --> 04:56:47,820
year for us to get here and

5139
04:56:47,820 --> 04:56:48,821
frankly it takes more than that

5140
04:56:48,821 --> 04:56:50,790
because we're looking at up.

5141
04:56:50,790 --> 04:56:51,491
But this year we looked at a

5142
04:56:51,491 --> 04:56:54,600
five-year range of of what the

5143
04:56:54,600 --> 04:56:56,290
future rates are right to work.

5144
04:56:56,290 --> 04:56:56,730
We're already looking at 31.

5145
04:56:56,730 --> 04:57:00,330
Right now it's not like we're

5146
04:57:00,330 --> 04:57:02,433
just looking at 2728. So

5147
04:57:03,136 --> 04:57:05,500
anyway. It's not fun, but

5148
04:57:05,500 --> 04:57:06,106
if if we don't do it it's not

5149
04:57:06,106 --> 04:57:08,507
going to get done and then we

5150
04:57:08,507 --> 04:57:09,141
put it at risk of failing.

5151
04:57:09,141 --> 04:57:12,111
Thank you chair. Thank you

5152
04:57:12,111 --> 04:57:14,511
councilmember Hardin thank you

5153
04:57:15,281 --> 04:57:17,281
Sir.

5154
04:57:17,483 --> 04:57:19,883
>> I greatly appreciate the

5155
04:57:20,887 --> 04:57:23,590
of my colleagues. I will echo

5156
04:57:23,590 --> 04:57:26,759
after him trying to build on.

5157
04:57:26,759 --> 04:57:28,294
The echo before what what

5158
04:57:28,294 --> 04:57:30,620
councilmember Curtis said I

5159
04:57:30,620 --> 04:57:32,232
have no interest in raising

5160
04:57:32,232 --> 04:57:32,899
rates. And that starts of the

5161
04:57:32,899 --> 04:57:35,299
conversation that had this

5162
04:57:35,301 --> 04:57:38,301
morning with my wife over

5163
04:57:38,571 --> 04:57:38,972
coffee about what we're talking

5164
04:57:38,972 --> 04:57:40,972
about today.

5165
04:57:41,440 --> 04:57:43,709
In addition to them, the folks

5166
04:57:43,709 --> 04:57:46,979
that we hear from the community

5167
04:57:46,979 --> 04:57:47,279
and and my daughter who is now

5168
04:57:47,279 --> 04:57:48,848
school

5169
04:57:48,848 --> 04:57:50,716
teacher can afford average

5170
04:57:50,716 --> 04:57:53,986
trees I I my point is I I echo

5171
04:57:53,986 --> 04:57:56,986
what everyone appears that had

5172
04:57:57,257 --> 04:58:00,126
no interest in raising rates.

5173
04:58:00,126 --> 04:58:00,793
But this is in pain of the

5174
04:58:00,793 --> 04:58:03,793
financial picture and and I

5175
04:58:03,896 --> 04:58:06,896
would like to give it

5176
04:58:07,266 --> 04:58:09,266
three-dimensional texture.

5177
04:58:09,769 --> 04:58:10,737
From what I understand

5178
04:58:10,737 --> 04:58:13,737
that the very direct questions

5179
04:58:14,140 --> 04:58:16,540
that councilmember Greece asked

5180
04:58:17,410 --> 04:58:17,977
most answered himself. That

5181
04:58:17,977 --> 04:58:20,377
the the money that

5182
04:58:20,380 --> 04:58:21,114
we collect because the 2

5183
04:58:21,114 --> 04:58:21,747
different because because the 2

5184
04:58:21,747 --> 04:58:23,116
different buckets, one is

5185
04:58:23,116 --> 04:58:26,386
operations and one is cip when

5186
04:58:26,386 --> 04:58:27,686
is it is we have to rebuild the

5187
04:58:27,686 --> 04:58:28,787
system.

5188
04:58:28,787 --> 04:58:32,580
1, 1, What is my rent and one

5189
04:58:32,580 --> 04:58:32,392
is the fact that I stopped to

5190
04:58:32,392 --> 04:58:34,392
pick my

5191
04:58:34,460 --> 04:58:36,228
house and and fix it and put

5192
04:58:36,228 --> 04:58:36,930
any refund and from what I

5193
04:58:36,930 --> 04:58:39,330
understand cip air operations

5194
04:58:39,799 --> 04:58:40,399
part we how we help cost pretty

5195
04:58:40,399 --> 04:58:41,100
flat.

5196
04:58:41,100 --> 04:58:44,303
But it's the cip part which is

5197
04:58:44,303 --> 04:58:46,506
which unfortunately comes from

5198
04:58:46,506 --> 04:58:47,807
several of areas, one is we

5199
04:58:47,807 --> 04:58:50,807
didn't fund it properly over

5200
04:58:51,770 --> 04:58:51,778
the past 20 years, one is that

5201
04:58:51,778 --> 04:58:54,178
the increased cost of

5202
04:58:55,181 --> 04:58:58,585
and there's one other than us

5203
04:58:58,585 --> 04:58:59,218
thinking of recall on talking

5204
04:58:59,218 --> 04:59:00,519
and and so my my point is

5205
04:59:00,519 --> 04:59:03,519
this and everything that that

5206
04:59:03,756 --> 04:59:06,920
that you all talked about that

5207
04:59:06,920 --> 04:59:06,759
the

5208
04:59:06,759 --> 04:59:07,493
the trekkers strikers is the

5209
04:59:07,493 --> 04:59:10,290
lowest neighborhood in in Saint

5210
04:59:10,290 --> 04:59:13,290
Pete. Immediately very very Bay

5211
04:59:13,533 --> 04:59:14,233
unlike other them in the same

5212
04:59:14,233 --> 04:59:14,901
issues rear of a when we talk

5213
04:59:14,901 --> 04:59:17,803
about your regionals of and

5214
04:59:17,803 --> 04:59:20,940
solar. As we were putting pump

5215
04:59:20,940 --> 04:59:21,741
stations of a

5216
04:59:21,741 --> 04:59:24,143
>> so we're so so we're

5217
04:59:24,143 --> 04:59:24,877
building the first major pump

5218
04:59:24,877 --> 04:59:27,747
station in shore acres and if I

5219
04:59:27,747 --> 04:59:29,282
remember a cloud. The total

5220
04:59:29,282 --> 04:59:29,882
cost

5221
04:59:29,882 --> 04:59:30,216
that projects about $33

5222
04:59:30,216 --> 04:59:30,950
million.

5223
04:59:30,950 --> 04:59:33,853
And essentially what it does is

5224
04:59:33,853 --> 04:59:34,420
it gets rid of this this this

5225
04:59:34,420 --> 04:59:35,870
way that Mother

5226
04:59:35,870 --> 04:59:35,754
Nature has change which she

5227
04:59:35,754 --> 04:59:38,992
wants to do and we now have

5228
04:59:38,992 --> 04:59:41,194
this this issue that we're for

5229
04:59:41,194 --> 04:59:44,463
Tue. Time flooding in to ensure

5230
04:59:44,463 --> 04:59:45,898
acres and so and so we put

5231
04:59:45,898 --> 04:59:46,532
people at risk we have

5232
04:59:46,532 --> 04:59:48,434
water in the roads in the

5233
04:59:48,434 --> 04:59:50,834
middle of the day.

5234
04:59:51,704 --> 04:59:52,571
That we we the greater own our

5235
04:59:52,571 --> 04:59:53,238
own infrastructure we

5236
04:59:53,238 --> 04:59:53,806
deplete that the real shelf

5237
04:59:53,806 --> 04:59:55,308
life of the roadways.

5238
04:59:55,308 --> 04:59:56,943
And nothing is good about it

5239
04:59:56,943 --> 04:59:59,479
and we hear about it all the

5240
04:59:59,479 --> 05:00:00,146
time and put real context to

5241
05:00:00,146 --> 05:00:00,846
that I was on the text chain

5242
05:00:00,846 --> 05:00:01,880
for my kids elementary school

5243
05:00:01,880 --> 05:00:04,384
because they change their hours

5244
05:00:04,384 --> 05:00:06,685
of operation of the school

5245
05:00:06,685 --> 05:00:07,353
based on the tides. And a King

5246
05:00:07,353 --> 05:00:09,753
tide escorted 3 but when

5247
05:00:10,623 --> 05:00:12,725
contenders there we we picked

5248
05:00:12,725 --> 05:00:13,425
up our kids at

5249
05:00:13,425 --> 05:00:15,825
1230 because you wouldn't get

5250
05:00:16,290 --> 05:00:16,862
impeded.

5251
05:00:16,862 --> 05:00:19,862
So my point is this.

5252
05:00:20,133 --> 05:00:21,834
We addressed that $33 million.

5253
05:00:21,834 --> 05:00:22,468
>> And that's in addition to

5254
05:00:22,468 --> 05:00:23,202
fixing the system this is

5255
05:00:23,202 --> 05:00:25,700
additional to it in talking

5256
05:00:25,700 --> 05:00:28,373
with the with with Clyde from

5257
05:00:28,373 --> 05:00:30,210
what I understand you would

5258
05:00:30,210 --> 05:00:31,510
like to see possibly more

5259
05:00:31,510 --> 05:00:32,511
pump stations throughout the

5260
05:00:32,511 --> 05:00:33,279
city to alleviate the rest of

5261
05:00:33,279 --> 05:00:35,140
the state time flooding.

5262
05:00:35,140 --> 05:00:38,351
Yes to more a kers which I

5263
05:00:38,351 --> 05:00:41,621
assume come second and 3rd, but

5264
05:00:41,621 --> 05:00:42,355
2 is that correct.

5265
05:00:42,355 --> 05:00:43,322
Yes Sir, the so Kate

5266
05:00:43,322 --> 05:00:44,223
now now we're at a quarter of a

5267
05:00:44,223 --> 05:00:47,223
billion dollars in just pump

5268
05:00:47,493 --> 05:00:50,329
stations that that is that is

5269
05:00:50,329 --> 05:00:50,997
additional to the system

5270
05:00:50,997 --> 05:00:51,697
that that those are projects

5271
05:00:51,697 --> 05:00:54,970
that alleviate that alleviate

5272
05:00:54,633 --> 05:00:57,330
real problems that happened

5273
05:00:57,970 --> 05:00:58,471
today when it didn't rain

5274
05:00:58,471 --> 05:01:01,471
and so back to the

5275
05:01:01,507 --> 05:01:01,941
point that the council member

5276
05:01:01,941 --> 05:01:02,709
guard us made

5277
05:01:02,709 --> 05:01:03,676
very succinctly about the money

5278
05:01:03,676 --> 05:01:06,846
part of this. The money part of

5279
05:01:06,846 --> 05:01:08,470
this comes to the quality of

5280
05:01:08,470 --> 05:01:10,449
life of the people. Because I

5281
05:01:10,449 --> 05:01:11,351
can't live in a flooded

5282
05:01:11,351 --> 05:01:14,351
neighborhood. All the time and

5283
05:01:14,620 --> 05:01:17,220
no interest in raising rates,

5284
05:01:17,220 --> 05:01:17,790
none 0.

5285
05:01:17,790 --> 05:01:21,600
I would venture to say that I

5286
05:01:21,600 --> 05:01:24,330
am I am maybe a little bit

5287
05:01:24,330 --> 05:01:26,730
further than council members.

5288
05:01:26,866 --> 05:01:30,135
Back to the point of of have

5289
05:01:30,135 --> 05:01:32,872
this there are things that are

5290
05:01:32,872 --> 05:01:34,872
just.

5291
05:01:35,174 --> 05:01:35,908
2 critical not to address.

5292
05:01:35,908 --> 05:01:38,777
I intend to to to vote for this

5293
05:01:38,777 --> 05:01:39,345
it's not where I want to do.

5294
05:01:39,345 --> 05:01:40,113
But I think it's

5295
05:01:40,113 --> 05:01:41,547
what the city needs to do.

5296
05:01:41,547 --> 05:01:44,850
And I appreciate the fact that

5297
05:01:44,850 --> 05:01:49,500
the 3 of you with a huge team

5298
05:01:51,157 --> 05:01:53,250
behind you we're able to

5299
05:01:53,250 --> 05:01:53,893
Create this this picture.

5300
05:01:53,893 --> 05:01:57,196
And give us a chance to

5301
05:01:57,196 --> 05:02:00,132
visualize what it is because

5302
05:02:00,132 --> 05:02:02,532
this decision socks. But

5303
05:02:02,535 --> 05:02:03,202
but with without without the

5304
05:02:03,202 --> 05:02:05,604
the without that without the

5305
05:02:05,604 --> 05:02:06,306
way that you are able to

5306
05:02:06,306 --> 05:02:09,308
present to us. What a good now

5307
05:02:09,308 --> 05:02:09,742
I want to do this. But when

5308
05:02:09,742 --> 05:02:11,742
you're able to

5309
05:02:12,278 --> 05:02:12,945
contextualize it this way my

5310
05:02:12,945 --> 05:02:13,579
point is thank you very much

5311
05:02:13,579 --> 05:02:16,315
for giving me at least the

5312
05:02:16,315 --> 05:02:17,616
opportunity and that to see

5313
05:02:17,616 --> 05:02:18,618
this problem for exactly

5314
05:02:18,618 --> 05:02:19,585
what it is in pedestrian terms.

5315
05:02:19,585 --> 05:02:22,922
I am sorry for the way that of

5316
05:02:22,922 --> 05:02:24,323
that I am that this is going to

5317
05:02:24,323 --> 05:02:24,991
go for me.

5318
05:02:24,991 --> 05:02:27,460
But I appreciate the effort

5319
05:02:27,460 --> 05:02:28,127
that you all put into thank you

5320
05:02:28,127 --> 05:02:31,397
very much Sir. The eu I hear

5321
05:02:31,397 --> 05:02:34,667
from thanks I just have one

5322
05:02:34,667 --> 05:02:35,467
thing I did

5323
05:02:35,467 --> 05:02:37,467
mentioned before.

5324
05:02:38,738 --> 05:02:40,506
>> Just want to say thank you

5325
05:02:40,506 --> 05:02:42,506
to staff

5326
05:02:42,574 --> 05:02:42,842
and everyone all my colleagues

5327
05:02:42,842 --> 05:02:43,476
for.

5328
05:02:43,476 --> 05:02:44,109
Just getting too full cost

5329
05:02:44,109 --> 05:02:46,509
recovery of the stormwater

5330
05:02:46,679 --> 05:02:49,790
capacity fee. You know

5331
05:02:49,849 --> 05:02:51,849
residents are.

5332
05:02:52,852 --> 05:02:54,530
How have a 7% increase put

5333
05:02:54,530 --> 05:02:55,788
forward, but developers

5334
05:02:55,788 --> 05:02:57,323
connecting to the Senate system

5335
05:02:57,323 --> 05:03:00,159
have a 70% increase being put

5336
05:03:00,159 --> 05:03:01,727
forward and I think that's much

5337
05:03:01,727 --> 05:03:02,428
more equitable and I we have to

5338
05:03:02,428 --> 05:03:04,828
acknowledge that some grateful

5339
05:03:05,331 --> 05:03:08,400
and I just want to say thank

5340
05:03:08,400 --> 05:03:10,400
you. You

5341
05:03:11,704 --> 05:03:12,438
councilmember Givens.

5342
05:03:12,438 --> 05:03:13,139
Thank you chair, thanks to each

5343
05:03:13,139 --> 05:03:14,307
of you for all your hard work

5344
05:03:14,307 --> 05:03:14,940
as chairs mentioned this isn't

5345
05:03:14,940 --> 05:03:16,142
just something we do today

5346
05:03:16,142 --> 05:03:18,542
didn't happen overnights not

5347
05:03:19,412 --> 05:03:20,179
microwave politics. This is an

5348
05:03:20,179 --> 05:03:21,715
ongoing

5349
05:03:21,715 --> 05:03:24,115
conversation. That takes months

5350
05:03:24,883 --> 05:03:25,785
of effort and I really

5351
05:03:25,785 --> 05:03:26,552
appreciate

5352
05:03:26,552 --> 05:03:29,822
you all on this is a delicate

5353
05:03:29,822 --> 05:03:30,589
matter. It's a delicate matter

5354
05:03:30,589 --> 05:03:31,256
in a delicate

5355
05:03:31,256 --> 05:03:33,656
balance balance because you

5356
05:03:34,127 --> 05:03:35,600
have to consider the financial

5357
05:03:35,600 --> 05:03:37,600
strain that

5358
05:03:37,263 --> 05:03:40,990
has been imposed on residents.

5359
05:03:40,990 --> 05:03:43,990
Primarily due to things beyond

5360
05:03:43,369 --> 05:03:44,470
their control. 2 Hurricanes if

5361
05:03:44,470 --> 05:03:46,470
not 4.

5362
05:03:47,540 --> 05:03:48,174
The rising costs of inflation.

5363
05:03:48,174 --> 05:03:50,574
And various other factors

5364
05:03:50,709 --> 05:03:51,678
beyond their control. So with

5365
05:03:51,678 --> 05:03:53,979
all that we have to consider.

5366
05:03:53,979 --> 05:03:54,580
I think the primary thing on

5367
05:03:54,580 --> 05:03:55,748
the table today which is

5368
05:03:55,748 --> 05:03:58,748
affordability and I think we

5369
05:03:59,180 --> 05:04:01,180
all struggle with

5370
05:04:01,654 --> 05:04:03,654
affordability. It's a

5371
05:04:03,722 --> 05:04:06,458
struggle on the city's part

5372
05:04:06,458 --> 05:04:07,459
trying to find a comfortable

5373
05:04:07,459 --> 05:04:09,295
number that would not impose

5374
05:04:09,295 --> 05:04:12,565
too much burden on the rate

5375
05:04:12,565 --> 05:04:15,434
payers as you put it over our

5376
05:04:15,434 --> 05:04:16,135
residents.

5377
05:04:16,135 --> 05:04:17,403
But it's also tough because we

5378
05:04:17,403 --> 05:04:19,471
have been kicking the can down

5379
05:04:19,471 --> 05:04:22,875
the road for so long we're

5380
05:04:22,875 --> 05:04:25,275
talking almost 30 years here.

5381
05:04:26,245 --> 05:04:29,515
An I don't think it's fair.

5382
05:04:29,515 --> 05:04:30,749
We impose such a burden

5383
05:04:30,749 --> 05:04:34,190
on just one generation. This is

5384
05:04:34,190 --> 05:04:34,920
something that I think we

5385
05:04:34,920 --> 05:04:36,755
should

5386
05:04:36,755 --> 05:04:37,423
look at spreading the costs

5387
05:04:37,423 --> 05:04:40,392
over time. I certainly think

5388
05:04:40,392 --> 05:04:43,392
it's fair to have conversations

5389
05:04:43,629 --> 05:04:46,290
about a minimal increase.

5390
05:04:47,900 --> 05:04:48,701
However, 67% doesn't seem like

5391
05:04:48,701 --> 05:04:50,701
we're being good

5392
05:04:51,236 --> 05:04:53,272
financial stewards of taxpayer

5393
05:04:53,272 --> 05:04:53,906
funds. I understand that they

5394
05:04:53,906 --> 05:04:56,808
are needs I get that those

5395
05:04:56,808 --> 05:04:57,976
needs don't change over time,

5396
05:04:57,976 --> 05:04:59,746
however

5397
05:04:59,746 --> 05:05:00,346
our need to do. Just because

5398
05:05:00,346 --> 05:05:01,480
the city has the fix its

5399
05:05:01,480 --> 05:05:03,480
crumbling infrastructure

5400
05:05:04,750 --> 05:05:06,619
doesn't mean that my family

5401
05:05:06,619 --> 05:05:07,486
stops eating.

5402
05:05:07,486 --> 05:05:08,921
Doesn't mean that the lights

5403
05:05:08,921 --> 05:05:12,891
stay on we still have to find

5404
05:05:12,891 --> 05:05:13,625
ways like you said to comply

5405
05:05:13,625 --> 05:05:16,462
regulations, but we also got to

5406
05:05:16,462 --> 05:05:17,763
find ways to stay alive.

5407
05:05:17,763 --> 05:05:20,763
You can only squeeze so

5408
05:05:21,670 --> 05:05:22,680
much to side of the same.

5409
05:05:22,680 --> 05:05:23,802
And I I really think we have

5410
05:05:23,802 --> 05:05:25,104
squeeze this lemon one too many

5411
05:05:25,104 --> 05:05:28,508
times. And I get it it's we're

5412
05:05:28,508 --> 05:05:29,708
playing catch up, but we have

5413
05:05:29,708 --> 05:05:30,809
to be able to explain where

5414
05:05:30,809 --> 05:05:31,511
this increase is going in.

5415
05:05:31,511 --> 05:05:34,380
No following one person but I

5416
05:05:34,380 --> 05:05:36,615
don't think we've done a

5417
05:05:36,615 --> 05:05:38,551
justified.

5418
05:05:38,551 --> 05:05:40,219
We've provided any justify

5419
05:05:40,219 --> 05:05:43,219
decisions on this we haven't

5420
05:05:43,389 --> 05:05:46,225
been able to clearly explain

5421
05:05:46,225 --> 05:05:46,992
why we've come to this number

5422
05:05:46,992 --> 05:05:50,162
and and I get it there are

5423
05:05:50,162 --> 05:05:51,163
needs operational expenses have

5424
05:05:51,163 --> 05:05:53,999
increased however I have to

5425
05:05:53,999 --> 05:05:54,700
wonder you know. I get an 8%

5426
05:05:54,700 --> 05:05:57,700
tipping fee increase we cannot

5427
05:05:57,903 --> 05:05:59,400
control but is it necessary for

5428
05:05:59,400 --> 05:06:01,700
us to purchase a

5429
05:06:01,700 --> 05:06:01,741
123 trucks right now. You know

5430
05:06:01,741 --> 05:06:04,576
I just I just have to wonder in

5431
05:06:04,576 --> 05:06:08,776
and then also have to look at.

5432
05:06:11,583 --> 05:06:14,583
We're taxing our ratepayers you

5433
05:06:14,887 --> 05:06:15,387
know is it fair to make them

5434
05:06:15,387 --> 05:06:16,880
bear so much of a

5435
05:06:16,880 --> 05:06:19,880
burden when developers can be

5436
05:06:19,358 --> 05:06:22,394
doing more. I want to ask this

5437
05:06:22,394 --> 05:06:24,394
question

5438
05:06:24,964 --> 05:06:25,264
because I brought it up last

5439
05:06:25,264 --> 05:06:25,864
year.

5440
05:06:25,864 --> 05:06:26,531
It's alright there's no

5441
05:06:26,531 --> 05:06:28,467
clapping. In the meeting its

5442
05:06:28,467 --> 05:06:29,680
its part it's fine at some of

5443
05:06:29,680 --> 05:06:29,802
you weren't here in the

5444
05:06:29,802 --> 05:06:30,536
original part of the meeting so

5445
05:06:30,536 --> 05:06:32,936
I understand people feel

5446
05:06:33,772 --> 05:06:35,574
passionate about it, but we

5447
05:06:35,574 --> 05:06:36,241
just keep the corpsman

5448
05:06:36,241 --> 05:06:36,975
the meeting so I appreciate

5449
05:06:36,975 --> 05:06:37,843
that thank you thank you chair.

5450
05:06:37,843 --> 05:06:41,113
Broad at last year I think it

5451
05:06:41,113 --> 05:06:41,680
was mentioned by you and the

5452
05:06:41,680 --> 05:06:43,649
optimizing some of

5453
05:06:43,649 --> 05:06:44,350
these miscellaneous I mentioned

5454
05:06:44,350 --> 05:06:46,718
that illegal brought it up to

5455
05:06:46,718 --> 05:06:48,718
administration the conversation

5456
05:06:48,788 --> 05:06:50,222
about imposing some additional

5457
05:06:50,222 --> 05:06:50,923
impact fees. We mentioned what

5458
05:06:50,923 --> 05:06:51,556
other municipalities are doing

5459
05:06:51,556 --> 05:06:53,825
well the municipalities of

5460
05:06:53,825 --> 05:06:55,127
dealing with the same issues we

5461
05:06:55,127 --> 05:06:55,828
are as a coastal community,

5462
05:06:55,828 --> 05:06:58,697
however they have found other

5463
05:06:58,697 --> 05:07:00,299
solutions beyond just raising

5464
05:07:00,299 --> 05:07:02,299
rates

5465
05:07:02,901 --> 05:07:03,569
on consumers. And so what I

5466
05:07:03,569 --> 05:07:05,871
want to know is legally what

5467
05:07:05,871 --> 05:07:06,939
options has administration

5468
05:07:06,939 --> 05:07:07,673
explored when it comes to

5469
05:07:07,673 --> 05:07:10,730
alternative impact fees whether

5470
05:07:10,409 --> 05:07:12,780
the sewer sanitation

5471
05:07:12,780 --> 05:07:14,780
transportation.

5472
05:07:15,347 --> 05:07:16,148
It I don't know who who would

5473
05:07:16,148 --> 05:07:16,882
answer this question. But I

5474
05:07:16,882 --> 05:07:18,884
certainly want to know where we

5475
05:07:18,884 --> 05:07:19,518
stand with. Impact these I'm

5476
05:07:19,518 --> 05:07:21,920
I'm I'm happy that we have

5477
05:07:21,920 --> 05:07:24,920
impact excuse me increase this

5478
05:07:25,190 --> 05:07:28,190
water capacity fifa by $700 but

5479
05:07:28,360 --> 05:07:30,360
that's not enough.

5480
05:07:31,497 --> 05:07:32,198
>> My to get get the

5481
05:07:32,198 --> 05:07:32,865
conversation started a bit and

5482
05:07:32,865 --> 05:07:33,766
others will probably want to

5483
05:07:33,766 --> 05:07:34,433
chime in, but you know to the

5484
05:07:34,433 --> 05:07:35,670
extent that you know you can

5485
05:07:35,670 --> 05:07:37,569
just a fee that's in place

5486
05:07:37,569 --> 05:07:38,670
today that's you know kind of

5487
05:07:38,670 --> 05:07:39,872
what's in front of us today.

5488
05:07:39,872 --> 05:07:40,639
But I think there MAY be some

5489
05:07:40,639 --> 05:07:41,173
potential things to work

5490
05:07:41,173 --> 05:07:43,173
through relative the

5491
05:07:43,942 --> 05:07:45,344
implementation of new fees

5492
05:07:45,344 --> 05:07:46,211
around some existing state

5493
05:07:46,211 --> 05:07:46,878
legislation that you know MAY

5494
05:07:46,878 --> 05:07:49,278
provide challenges and doing

5495
05:07:49,782 --> 05:07:52,782
that until sometime next year.

5496
05:07:53,920 --> 05:07:54,654
So I think you know the team

5497
05:07:54,654 --> 05:07:55,621
stands ready to evaluate

5498
05:07:55,621 --> 05:07:57,489
those fees and in America

5499
05:07:57,489 --> 05:07:58,490
accumulations but I think

5500
05:07:58,490 --> 05:07:59,158
there's some timing

5501
05:07:59,158 --> 05:08:01,558
considerations from a legal

5502
05:08:02,161 --> 05:08:05,161
perspective that we're going to

5503
05:08:05,330 --> 05:08:07,730
have to reflect on

5504
05:08:07,733 --> 05:08:08,134
because of the state bills that

5505
05:08:08,134 --> 05:08:08,834
have passed.

5506
05:08:08,834 --> 05:08:09,535
I appreciate I understand big

5507
05:08:09,535 --> 05:08:10,836
brother hinders little little

5508
05:08:10,836 --> 05:08:11,536
brother lot. But this is

5509
05:08:11,536 --> 05:08:14,539
something that I think is just

5510
05:08:14,539 --> 05:08:15,741
too important and I really

5511
05:08:15,741 --> 05:08:18,911
would like to look at legally

5512
05:08:18,911 --> 05:08:20,446
what are what is permissible.

5513
05:08:20,446 --> 05:08:21,113
What can we explore imposing at

5514
05:08:21,113 --> 05:08:24,160
this point I know we have to

5515
05:08:24,160 --> 05:08:24,617
justify through study what is

5516
05:08:24,617 --> 05:08:25,318
that

5517
05:08:25,318 --> 05:08:26,180
next a look like how do we get

5518
05:08:26,180 --> 05:08:26,618
to that study. I don't want to

5519
05:08:26,618 --> 05:08:27,352
just again keep delaying

5520
05:08:27,352 --> 05:08:30,352
delaying delaying and then we

5521
05:08:30,622 --> 05:08:31,624
hope that we can pass that

5522
05:08:31,624 --> 05:08:33,624
burden down

5523
05:08:34,893 --> 05:08:35,894
2 are. Residents it's again

5524
05:08:35,894 --> 05:08:36,628
just me I think it's

5525
05:08:36,628 --> 05:08:38,830
it's backwards map and the math

5526
05:08:38,830 --> 05:08:41,900
doesn't map up to me. I want to

5527
05:08:41,900 --> 05:08:43,702
talk for a moment about this to

5528
05:08:43,702 --> 05:08:45,838
stand Tech for a moment about

5529
05:08:45,838 --> 05:08:48,838
just some some lack of

5530
05:08:49,141 --> 05:08:50,876
transparency here I want some

5531
05:08:50,876 --> 05:08:51,844
clarity on

5532
05:08:51,844 --> 05:08:53,713
these erratically inflated

5533
05:08:53,713 --> 05:08:54,579
bills have we resolve that

5534
05:08:54,579 --> 05:08:55,447
problem because as we heard

5535
05:08:55,447 --> 05:08:56,448
today, there's still some

5536
05:08:56,448 --> 05:08:59,285
people were still having issues

5537
05:08:59,285 --> 05:09:01,253
I have we where we stand with

5538
05:09:01,253 --> 05:09:02,588
swapping out these old meters

5539
05:09:02,588 --> 05:09:03,221
and replacing them. You know if

5540
05:09:03,221 --> 05:09:05,221
Tyler still malfunctioning

5541
05:09:06,920 --> 05:09:09,920
again maybe this isn't the

5542
05:09:09,228 --> 05:09:11,228
right

5543
05:09:11,697 --> 05:09:12,130
time for us to be having this

5544
05:09:12,130 --> 05:09:12,798
conversation.

5545
05:09:12,798 --> 05:09:13,499
Well expect councilmember I

5546
05:09:13,499 --> 05:09:15,340
think that's probably a staff

5547
05:09:15,340 --> 05:09:18,340
questions too. Sure thank you.

5548
05:09:18,304 --> 05:09:21,720
Good evening Council, Tom green

5549
05:09:21,720 --> 05:09:21,774
and councilmember forgive me,

5550
05:09:21,774 --> 05:09:22,441
but you had a lot of questions

5551
05:09:22,441 --> 05:09:25,411
in there so maybe I'll start

5552
05:09:25,411 --> 05:09:28,714
with and kind of chip all a

5553
05:09:28,714 --> 05:09:32,117
chip away at some of those.

5554
05:09:32,117 --> 05:09:35,117
So absolutely we we have

5555
05:09:35,254 --> 05:09:37,254
normalized

5556
05:09:37,356 --> 05:09:37,990
over time. The

5557
05:09:37,990 --> 05:09:40,860
number of bills they come.

5558
05:09:40,860 --> 05:09:43,796
The we're hearing about that

5559
05:09:43,796 --> 05:09:45,796
have been inflated.

5560
05:09:46,980 --> 05:09:47,967
You might recall that or I

5561
05:09:47,967 --> 05:09:51,337
should say on a monthly basis.

5562
05:09:51,337 --> 05:09:53,672
We have bills that are 2 times

5563
05:09:53,672 --> 05:09:55,672
maybe even 4 times.

5564
05:09:55,941 --> 05:09:58,341
The previous 3 months average

5565
05:09:59,211 --> 05:10:00,212
that happens every day we work

5566
05:10:00,212 --> 05:10:01,747
through those with

5567
05:10:01,747 --> 05:10:03,382
customers on a daily basis.

5568
05:10:03,382 --> 05:10:04,149
But we are not seeing the same

5569
05:10:04,149 --> 05:10:07,419
level of like right after the

5570
05:10:07,419 --> 05:10:10,389
storms we had a big Spike it

5571
05:10:10,389 --> 05:10:12,789
has normalized over time.

5572
05:10:13,458 --> 05:10:16,629
Or are we going to and then yes

5573
05:10:16,629 --> 05:10:18,263
about Tyler we're still in the

5574
05:10:18,263 --> 05:10:20,663
process of implementing that

5575
05:10:21,534 --> 05:10:23,501
software we anticipate or early

5576
05:10:23,501 --> 05:10:26,501
2027 for it to go live.

5577
05:10:26,938 --> 05:10:27,406
>> So you're saying these these

5578
05:10:27,406 --> 05:10:29,406
peak bills have

5579
05:10:30,375 --> 05:10:31,760
normalized it sounds again like

5580
05:10:31,760 --> 05:10:31,711
they're they're made still be

5581
05:10:31,711 --> 05:10:32,378
some folks who are kind of

5582
05:10:32,378 --> 05:10:35,470
stuck in and this revolving

5583
05:10:35,470 --> 05:10:37,416
door in and I'm just wondering

5584
05:10:37,416 --> 05:10:39,151
again.

5585
05:10:39,151 --> 05:10:40,586
You know is this a situation

5586
05:10:40,586 --> 05:10:41,286
that we really have address

5587
05:10:41,286 --> 05:10:44,156
these over bills seem to still

5588
05:10:44,156 --> 05:10:46,691
be a kind we're talking 2 years

5589
05:10:46,691 --> 05:10:47,393
post storm.

5590
05:10:47,393 --> 05:10:47,993
>> So it is it is challenging

5591
05:10:47,993 --> 05:10:49,661
to answer that question

5592
05:10:49,661 --> 05:10:50,362
directly because there's so

5593
05:10:50,362 --> 05:10:52,762
many different variables with

5594
05:10:52,831 --> 05:10:53,798
each individual customer's

5595
05:10:53,798 --> 05:10:57,200
bill. You know there could be a

5596
05:10:57,200 --> 05:10:57,669
leak there could be a leak on

5597
05:10:57,669 --> 05:10:58,370
the on the private property

5598
05:10:58,370 --> 05:11:00,272
side there could be a leak on

5599
05:11:00,272 --> 05:11:00,873
the city side. So they each of

5600
05:11:00,873 --> 05:11:03,776
them have to be treated

5601
05:11:03,776 --> 05:11:04,977
individually and addressed

5602
05:11:04,977 --> 05:11:05,644
individually it's hard

5603
05:11:05,644 --> 05:11:05,978
to make a blanket statement

5604
05:11:05,978 --> 05:11:07,978
about.

5605
05:11:09,147 --> 05:11:09,881
Any specific bill or nothing

5606
05:11:09,881 --> 05:11:10,583
and I get it it's an individual

5607
05:11:10,583 --> 05:11:13,385
triage matter and it's just I

5608
05:11:13,385 --> 05:11:14,620
don't think it's fair to keep

5609
05:11:14,620 --> 05:11:15,287
using the

5610
05:11:15,287 --> 05:11:15,954
excuse that it's a leak you

5611
05:11:15,954 --> 05:11:18,857
know, I'm not saying it's a

5612
05:11:18,857 --> 05:11:19,958
city but whoever is is saying

5613
05:11:19,958 --> 05:11:20,659
that is the

5614
05:11:20,659 --> 05:11:21,360
issue it's not always the fact

5615
05:11:21,360 --> 05:11:24,330
so I just again I want to make

5616
05:11:24,330 --> 05:11:24,896
sure that we're exerting our

5617
05:11:24,896 --> 05:11:25,865
efforts on trying

5618
05:11:25,865 --> 05:11:28,700
to come to a solution on to the

5619
05:11:28,700 --> 05:11:31,700
problem and I just don't

5620
05:11:31,970 --> 05:11:32,771
believe right now raising rates

5621
05:11:32,771 --> 05:11:33,438
is that solution. There are

5622
05:11:33,438 --> 05:11:36,308
some bigger issues we've got

5623
05:11:36,308 --> 05:11:36,842
bigger fish to fry and I really

5624
05:11:36,842 --> 05:11:39,242
feel like we've got

5625
05:11:39,645 --> 05:11:40,746
to get down to the bottom of it

5626
05:11:40,746 --> 05:11:44,160
can we talk a little bit the

5627
05:11:44,160 --> 05:11:45,351
utility rate increase versus

5628
05:11:45,351 --> 05:11:46,318
the Geo bond.

5629
05:11:46,318 --> 05:11:47,519
Amendment to the deal bond

5630
05:11:47,519 --> 05:11:49,588
initiative that is on the

5631
05:11:49,588 --> 05:11:50,221
ballot as well as the amendment

5632
05:11:50,221 --> 05:11:50,890
those are like 3 different

5633
05:11:50,890 --> 05:11:53,625
issues, but they all impact

5634
05:11:53,625 --> 05:11:55,627
each other can we hit on that

5635
05:11:55,627 --> 05:11:57,627
briefly.

5636
05:11:58,930 --> 05:12:01,330
Absolute difference between the

5637
05:12:01,967 --> 05:12:02,634
2 I think is

5638
05:12:02,634 --> 05:12:03,202
important it's important to

5639
05:12:03,202 --> 05:12:03,902
mimic to mention that.

5640
05:12:03,902 --> 05:12:06,205
And just today are in Iran are

5641
05:12:06,205 --> 05:12:07,973
intertwined but 3 separate

5642
05:12:07,973 --> 05:12:08,607
issues. You know the the

5643
05:12:08,607 --> 05:12:11,700
rates were discussing this

5644
05:12:11,576 --> 05:12:14,212
evening are for kind of ongoing

5645
05:12:14,212 --> 05:12:17,820
operating of the utilities and

5646
05:12:17,820 --> 05:12:17,750
to support our ongoing capital

5647
05:12:17,750 --> 05:12:19,351
needs. So that's kind of the

5648
05:12:19,351 --> 05:12:20,352
discussion this evening.

5649
05:12:20,352 --> 05:12:23,622
What we're asking the voters to

5650
05:12:23,622 --> 05:12:25,358
address in NOVEMBER would be do

5651
05:12:25,358 --> 05:12:26,591
we want to.

5652
05:12:26,591 --> 05:12:29,950
Accelerate some of those water

5653
05:12:29,950 --> 05:12:29,829
and storm water improvements

5654
05:12:29,829 --> 05:12:30,496
that we know we need to do from

5655
05:12:30,496 --> 05:12:32,698
their master planning. Do we

5656
05:12:32,698 --> 05:12:35,000
want to accelerate those

5657
05:12:35,000 --> 05:12:37,400
through a different revenue

5658
05:12:38,270 --> 05:12:40,380
source. In the form of an ad

5659
05:12:40,380 --> 05:12:40,673
valorem tax. So there

5660
05:12:40,673 --> 05:12:43,676
are those who are kind of

5661
05:12:43,676 --> 05:12:44,310
separate and then are in a car

5662
05:12:44,310 --> 05:12:45,277
connected but separate

5663
05:12:45,277 --> 05:12:47,277
discussions and separate

5664
05:12:48,613 --> 05:12:49,648
decisions that voters will make

5665
05:12:49,648 --> 05:12:52,480
one decision and Council

5666
05:12:52,618 --> 05:12:55,454
make the decision on on the

5667
05:12:55,454 --> 05:12:56,322
rates and then the 3rd part was

5668
05:12:56,322 --> 05:12:57,522
what the homestead exemption

5669
05:12:57,522 --> 05:12:58,624
discussion and decision you

5670
05:12:58,624 --> 05:13:01,894
know that is clearly going to

5671
05:13:01,894 --> 05:13:02,328
be up to the voters in Florida

5672
05:13:02,328 --> 05:13:03,462
weather

5673
05:13:03,462 --> 05:13:04,863
are not that passes. But that

5674
05:13:04,863 --> 05:13:06,932
really doesn't impact the

5675
05:13:06,932 --> 05:13:09,332
discussion today with respect

5676
05:13:10,202 --> 05:13:11,704
to the utility and the Giovanni

5677
05:13:11,704 --> 05:13:12,370
appreciate that clarity thank

5678
05:13:12,370 --> 05:13:13,939
you Tom.

5679
05:13:13,939 --> 05:13:17,209
And then my last point here

5680
05:13:17,209 --> 05:13:17,776
again I I really feel like what

5681
05:13:17,776 --> 05:13:19,845
we should be doing is

5682
05:13:19,845 --> 05:13:21,714
redesigning how we collect

5683
05:13:21,714 --> 05:13:24,616
revenue for for these bills I

5684
05:13:24,616 --> 05:13:27,616
think right now it doesn't

5685
05:13:27,619 --> 05:13:29,255
really encourage conservation

5686
05:13:29,255 --> 05:13:32,524
and I think that's what we

5687
05:13:32,524 --> 05:13:33,191
should be doing educating.

5688
05:13:33,191 --> 05:13:35,360
Folks and motivating them

5689
05:13:35,360 --> 05:13:36,461
to conserve their water and

5690
05:13:36,461 --> 05:13:39,431
lets incentivize it for those

5691
05:13:39,431 --> 05:13:42,167
who do by lowering their rates

5692
05:13:42,167 --> 05:13:43,134
and those who wastewater raise

5693
05:13:43,134 --> 05:13:43,769
their rates. It's possible it's

5694
05:13:43,769 --> 05:13:44,470
called penalty rates and I

5695
05:13:44,470 --> 05:13:47,470
definitely think that that is

5696
05:13:47,739 --> 05:13:48,730
something that we should

5697
05:13:48,730 --> 05:13:48,773
explore

5698
05:13:48,773 --> 05:13:50,476
also think we should consider

5699
05:13:50,476 --> 05:13:52,876
lifeline rates for those

5700
05:13:53,611 --> 05:13:55,611
residents who are

5701
05:13:55,748 --> 05:13:56,815
income-qualified there

5702
05:13:56,815 --> 05:13:57,182
is opportunities for them to

5703
05:13:57,182 --> 05:13:59,182
have Sir.

5704
05:13:59,785 --> 05:14:02,387
I again I just think again this

5705
05:14:02,387 --> 05:14:03,388
conversation today about a 67%

5706
05:14:03,388 --> 05:14:04,550
increase. It's just not the

5707
05:14:04,550 --> 05:14:06,992
right time when struck when

5708
05:14:06,992 --> 05:14:09,392
folks are already struggling

5709
05:14:10,262 --> 05:14:11,290
and hurting. Thank you chair.

5710
05:14:11,290 --> 05:14:11,730
Thank you.

5711
05:14:11,730 --> 05:14:12,364
So personally I think everyone

5712
05:14:12,364 --> 05:14:13,640
that's here it's almost 7

5713
05:14:13,640 --> 05:14:15,634
o'clock at night so obviously

5714
05:14:15,634 --> 05:14:16,335
you here because you care about

5715
05:14:16,335 --> 05:14:17,602
your city you care about what

5716
05:14:17,602 --> 05:14:18,804
you're paying your racing care

5717
05:14:18,804 --> 05:14:22,730
enough to actually show up so

5718
05:14:22,730 --> 05:14:23,442
that doesn't go unnoticed and

5719
05:14:23,442 --> 05:14:25,442
it's important.

5720
05:14:26,745 --> 05:14:27,546
Also want to thank everyone

5721
05:14:27,546 --> 05:14:28,180
here that you see in the

5722
05:14:28,180 --> 05:14:31,490
room that has talked about

5723
05:14:31,490 --> 05:14:32,584
this. When we're in other is an

5724
05:14:32,584 --> 05:14:33,285
expert in their field and

5725
05:14:33,285 --> 05:14:36,155
so they do spend a lot of time

5726
05:14:36,155 --> 05:14:36,855
going through doing the work

5727
05:14:36,855 --> 05:14:37,823
trying

5728
05:14:37,823 --> 05:14:39,691
to give us the information and

5729
05:14:39,691 --> 05:14:40,692
so we can make decisions based

5730
05:14:40,692 --> 05:14:43,195
on the information that they

5731
05:14:43,195 --> 05:14:43,896
provide us whether it's the

5732
05:14:43,896 --> 05:14:44,496
engineers that are working and

5733
05:14:44,496 --> 05:14:45,164
a different storm water

5734
05:14:45,164 --> 05:14:46,310
projects or portable water

5735
05:14:46,310 --> 05:14:48,431
projects or whatever other

5736
05:14:49,300 --> 05:14:51,700
projects throughout the city

5737
05:14:52,437 --> 05:14:54,437
that residents.

5738
05:14:55,440 --> 05:14:56,875
Because they do. Versus you

5739
05:14:56,875 --> 05:14:57,575
know all the other needs that

5740
05:14:57,575 --> 05:14:58,611
we have in this city so I just

5741
05:14:58,611 --> 05:15:01,880
want to make sure that I thank

5742
05:15:01,880 --> 05:15:03,114
you all because I know that it

5743
05:15:03,114 --> 05:15:03,682
is tough work.

5744
05:15:03,682 --> 05:15:06,820
And frankly, it's it's

5745
05:15:06,651 --> 05:15:08,854
sometimes the work that you do

5746
05:15:08,854 --> 05:15:09,487
get think for because it is

5747
05:15:09,487 --> 05:15:10,556
you know when people have

5748
05:15:10,556 --> 05:15:12,956
flooding in their neighborhood

5749
05:15:13,825 --> 05:15:14,359
guess what they're never happy

5750
05:15:14,359 --> 05:15:16,359
and your screening.

5751
05:15:16,462 --> 05:15:17,429
But these folks here whether

5752
05:15:17,429 --> 05:15:18,764
it's the flooding in the

5753
05:15:18,764 --> 05:15:21,330
neighborhood whether it's the

5754
05:15:21,330 --> 05:15:23,100
storm water drain that's clog

5755
05:15:23,100 --> 05:15:25,401
whether it's the pothole

5756
05:15:26,272 --> 05:15:27,710
weather whatever it is. The one

5757
05:15:27,710 --> 05:15:29,710
expectation is

5758
05:15:29,674 --> 05:15:30,242
you just have to get it fixed.

5759
05:15:30,242 --> 05:15:32,411
And I will tell you I

5760
05:15:32,411 --> 05:15:35,680
constantly and I'm not the only

5761
05:15:35,680 --> 05:15:36,140
City Council person that's

5762
05:15:36,140 --> 05:15:36,715
getting

5763
05:15:36,715 --> 05:15:37,416
requests from citizens are for

5764
05:15:37,416 --> 05:15:38,650
residents. But I am constantly

5765
05:15:38,650 --> 05:15:41,650
getting emails about issues in

5766
05:15:42,530 --> 05:15:44,453
the neighborhood that people

5767
05:15:45,457 --> 05:15:47,960
expect us to fix. Period.

5768
05:15:47,960 --> 05:15:50,960
The problem is it costs

5769
05:15:51,230 --> 05:15:53,630
money. And sometimes those 2

5770
05:15:53,631 --> 05:15:55,934
things just don't match up.

5771
05:15:55,934 --> 05:15:56,601
I mean that's the reality we

5772
05:15:56,601 --> 05:15:59,505
have for all I mean whether

5773
05:15:59,505 --> 05:16:00,639
it's you're planning your son

5774
05:16:00,639 --> 05:16:01,172
your your home budget

5775
05:16:01,172 --> 05:16:02,607
or any other budget.

5776
05:16:02,607 --> 05:16:04,809
The realities even the city as

5777
05:16:04,809 --> 05:16:08,460
much as you see the big budget

5778
05:16:08,460 --> 05:16:09,140
guess what the needs in our

5779
05:16:09,140 --> 05:16:11,414
city are much bigger.

5780
05:16:12,283 --> 05:16:12,951
Then our budget allows and so

5781
05:16:12,951 --> 05:16:13,885
that is a challenge that we

5782
05:16:13,885 --> 05:16:14,519
have to deal with all the time

5783
05:16:14,519 --> 05:16:16,488
and yes you'll hear about

5784
05:16:16,488 --> 05:16:19,230
government waste and all the

5785
05:16:19,230 --> 05:16:22,230
things and finding people can

5786
05:16:22,294 --> 05:16:22,728
disagree on what is necessary

5787
05:16:22,728 --> 05:16:23,829
versus what is

5788
05:16:23,829 --> 05:16:24,496
not necessary that's all fair

5789
05:16:24,496 --> 05:16:27,496
game. But when we're talking

5790
05:16:27,566 --> 05:16:28,600
about a utility system which is

5791
05:16:28,600 --> 05:16:30,169
what our water system

5792
05:16:30,169 --> 05:16:31,360
is a storm water and all that

5793
05:16:31,360 --> 05:16:34,360
that's very different the money

5794
05:16:34,306 --> 05:16:37,306
in those systems go towards

5795
05:16:37,375 --> 05:16:38,176
those systems.

5796
05:16:38,176 --> 05:16:38,811
Your water rates go to take

5797
05:16:38,811 --> 05:16:39,545
care that your storm water

5798
05:16:39,545 --> 05:16:42,414
rates go to take care that your

5799
05:16:42,414 --> 05:16:43,949
sewage rates go to take care of

5800
05:16:43,949 --> 05:16:45,717
that

5801
05:16:45,717 --> 05:16:46,418
it it cost to operate the

5802
05:16:46,418 --> 05:16:47,152
system what's the cost of that

5803
05:16:47,152 --> 05:16:49,552
their capital improvement needs

5804
05:16:49,955 --> 05:16:53,258
water cost of that and then you

5805
05:16:53,258 --> 05:16:54,126
determine how you pay for it.

5806
05:16:54,126 --> 05:16:55,127
That's pretty much

5807
05:16:55,127 --> 05:16:55,827
in in the simplest way of

5808
05:16:55,827 --> 05:16:57,429
putting it. You MAY find some

5809
05:16:57,429 --> 05:16:59,829
money from federal grants

5810
05:17:00,699 --> 05:17:01,299
somewhere here there but the

5811
05:17:01,299 --> 05:17:02,330
reality is the majority

5812
05:17:02,330 --> 05:17:03,100
of the money is coming you know

5813
05:17:03,100 --> 05:17:03,769
from who not just from you from

5814
05:17:03,769 --> 05:17:07,172
all of us from everybody that

5815
05:17:07,172 --> 05:17:09,608
lives in the city because we

5816
05:17:09,608 --> 05:17:12,877
all pay theme rates. So this

5817
05:17:12,877 --> 05:17:15,877
challenge we have every year.

5818
05:17:15,914 --> 05:17:16,548
The lack of investment and

5819
05:17:16,548 --> 05:17:19,548
the system. Frankly we are

5820
05:17:19,551 --> 05:17:22,855
absorbing some of it, but it

5821
05:17:22,855 --> 05:17:25,255
won't just be us.

5822
05:17:26,124 --> 05:17:27,158
It's people 5 years from now

5823
05:17:27,158 --> 05:17:29,360
it's people 10 years from now

5824
05:17:29,360 --> 05:17:30,562
1520 2530 because these plans

5825
05:17:30,562 --> 05:17:31,262
are not five-year plans, you're

5826
05:17:31,262 --> 05:17:34,133
not one your plans. You're not

5827
05:17:34,133 --> 05:17:35,500
absorbing the whole cost you're

5828
05:17:35,500 --> 05:17:36,201
not.

5829
05:17:36,201 --> 05:17:38,670
It will be impossible. It's a

5830
05:17:38,670 --> 05:17:39,971
30 year plan and we're not

5831
05:17:39,971 --> 05:17:42,971
investing in the 30 year plan

5832
05:17:43,241 --> 05:17:43,709
enough which means everybody in

5833
05:17:43,709 --> 05:17:44,443
that system.

5834
05:17:44,443 --> 05:17:45,978
When I'm long gone, we're still

5835
05:17:45,978 --> 05:17:49,247
paying for it and guess what

5836
05:17:49,247 --> 05:17:49,847
we're probably not going to be

5837
05:17:49,847 --> 05:17:50,449
investing enough in it,

5838
05:17:50,449 --> 05:17:52,849
that's just the reality.

5839
05:17:53,685 --> 05:17:54,953
And that's what we have to deal

5840
05:17:54,953 --> 05:17:57,353
with so it is

5841
05:17:58,223 --> 05:17:58,890
nothing like some other council

5842
05:17:58,890 --> 05:17:59,591
members have expressed.

5843
05:17:59,591 --> 05:18:00,425
I don't like it. I don't like

5844
05:18:00,425 --> 05:18:01,626
any of this I wish I could tell

5845
05:18:01,626 --> 05:18:04,863
people I'm giving you my back

5846
05:18:04,863 --> 05:18:07,532
here is your refund check.

5847
05:18:07,532 --> 05:18:09,532
It be great.

5848
05:18:10,802 --> 05:18:11,470
I I it would be a deal world

5849
05:18:11,470 --> 05:18:12,137
were we wouldn't have to pay

5850
05:18:12,137 --> 05:18:12,804
any taxes and we get all the

5851
05:18:12,804 --> 05:18:14,873
services for free. Once this

5852
05:18:14,873 --> 05:18:15,841
whatever happens on the ballot

5853
05:18:15,841 --> 05:18:17,609
box at the state of Florida and

5854
05:18:17,609 --> 05:18:18,577
people get rid of property

5855
05:18:18,577 --> 05:18:19,911
taxes, how we'll see how that

5856
05:18:19,911 --> 05:18:20,612
turns out and then we'll figure

5857
05:18:20,612 --> 05:18:22,847
out ok do you get services do

5858
05:18:22,847 --> 05:18:26,117
not get services how it turns

5859
05:18:26,117 --> 05:18:27,553
out and we'll deal with it

5860
05:18:27,553 --> 05:18:29,880
because that it will

5861
05:18:29,880 --> 05:18:29,788
be a reality. But as we look at

5862
05:18:29,788 --> 05:18:31,560
a budget and we look at how we

5863
05:18:31,560 --> 05:18:32,240
use our real estate property

5864
05:18:32,240 --> 05:18:32,891
taxes, the majority of that

5865
05:18:32,891 --> 05:18:36,161
money goes to public service to

5866
05:18:36,161 --> 05:18:39,364
talk to our to our police and

5867
05:18:39,364 --> 05:18:40,799
fire.

5868
05:18:40,799 --> 05:18:42,634
That's the reality

5869
05:18:42,634 --> 05:18:43,368
of what we're looking at and so

5870
05:18:43,368 --> 05:18:45,370
if people expect those services

5871
05:18:45,370 --> 05:18:48,370
and you're cutting money from

5872
05:18:48,640 --> 05:18:49,274
going into that that we have to

5873
05:18:49,274 --> 05:18:49,841
take from somewhere else.

5874
05:18:49,841 --> 05:18:50,508
And that is always the

5875
05:18:50,508 --> 05:18:52,908
challenge where the money's

5876
05:18:53,245 --> 05:18:56,245
coming from for those services.

5877
05:18:59,484 --> 05:19:00,819
Service like utilities and all

5878
05:19:00,819 --> 05:19:01,520
that

5879
05:19:01,520 --> 05:19:02,921
you have that money and maybe.

5880
05:19:02,921 --> 05:19:03,655
>> We can find another way of

5881
05:19:03,655 --> 05:19:06,491
taking out moneys of not to get

5882
05:19:06,491 --> 05:19:06,758
moneys and then they don't go

5883
05:19:06,758 --> 05:19:07,425
into

5884
05:19:07,425 --> 05:19:08,159
general fund and we'll have

5885
05:19:08,159 --> 05:19:08,827
that conversation but that will

5886
05:19:08,827 --> 05:19:11,463
affect something else if you

5887
05:19:11,463 --> 05:19:13,698
don't have the payment in lieu.

5888
05:19:13,698 --> 05:19:14,432
Pat says.

5889
05:19:14,432 --> 05:19:16,234
It will affect some hail, which

5890
05:19:16,234 --> 05:19:18,536
means money will go for

5891
05:19:18,536 --> 05:19:20,505
something else and we'll have

5892
05:19:20,505 --> 05:19:21,707
that conversation. But it's not

5893
05:19:21,707 --> 05:19:22,908
like the money sitting there to

5894
05:19:22,908 --> 05:19:25,908
pay for everything and there's

5895
05:19:26,178 --> 05:19:28,580
always a given Kate that we're

5896
05:19:28,580 --> 05:19:29,248
dealing with.

5897
05:19:29,248 --> 05:19:32,170
You don't raise rates guess

5898
05:19:32,170 --> 05:19:34,170
what happens deferred

5899
05:19:35,187 --> 05:19:35,787
maintenance.

5900
05:19:35,787 --> 05:19:39,570
It's paid for it MAY not

5901
05:19:39,570 --> 05:19:43,257
be with dollars. But it MAY be

5902
05:19:43,462 --> 05:19:44,162
with deferred maintenance in a

5903
05:19:44,162 --> 05:19:44,863
bean. More flooding in an area

5904
05:19:44,863 --> 05:19:46,431
in MAY being other things that

5905
05:19:46,431 --> 05:19:48,399
are getting done. And so those

5906
05:19:48,399 --> 05:19:49,340
are the tough decisions that we

5907
05:19:49,340 --> 05:19:51,136
deal with. I don't live in

5908
05:19:51,136 --> 05:19:52,870
shore acres that from my

5909
05:19:52,870 --> 05:19:53,604
district. Neither is Riviera

5910
05:19:53,604 --> 05:19:54,306
Bay. But I understand they have

5911
05:19:54,306 --> 05:19:56,941
flooding there, but guess what

5912
05:19:56,941 --> 05:20:00,111
I have flooding in my district.

5913
05:20:00,111 --> 05:20:02,111
Higher ground.

5914
05:20:05,216 --> 05:20:05,784
Why from rainfall in different

5915
05:20:05,784 --> 05:20:06,885
areas and so their

5916
05:20:06,885 --> 05:20:08,620
projects in the storm water

5917
05:20:08,620 --> 05:20:09,320
plan that actually go to areas

5918
05:20:09,320 --> 05:20:10,589
in the city that are not shore

5919
05:20:10,589 --> 05:20:12,224
acres that are not Riviera Bay

5920
05:20:12,224 --> 05:20:15,494
because I know you sometimes we

5921
05:20:15,494 --> 05:20:16,261
hear that we think will assist

5922
05:20:16,261 --> 05:20:16,962
in the area.

5923
05:20:16,962 --> 05:20:17,662
That flooding and they bought

5924
05:20:17,662 --> 05:20:20,865
in that area and why should we

5925
05:20:20,865 --> 05:20:24,235
be paying for that I hear that

5926
05:20:24,235 --> 05:20:24,836
from people in my district.

5927
05:20:24,836 --> 05:20:25,503
And the reality is when

5928
05:20:25,503 --> 05:20:26,338
you look at our storm water

5929
05:20:26,338 --> 05:20:27,639
master plan. There's areas that

5930
05:20:27,639 --> 05:20:30,639
flood throughout the city that

5931
05:20:30,975 --> 05:20:34,120
we're trying to address its not

5932
05:20:34,120 --> 05:20:34,980
one neighborhood here.

5933
05:20:34,980 --> 05:20:38,383
The downtown water main we did

5934
05:20:38,383 --> 05:20:38,917
a study of our Don count pipes

5935
05:20:38,917 --> 05:20:40,917
that I reviewed.

5936
05:20:42,220 --> 05:20:43,388
And you can all look up you can

5937
05:20:43,388 --> 05:20:45,388
absolutely look up

5938
05:20:46,791 --> 05:20:47,392
the plan for the downtown water

5939
05:20:47,392 --> 05:20:48,326
mains and Clyde because

5940
05:20:48,326 --> 05:20:50,862
I don't know the numbers off

5941
05:20:50,862 --> 05:20:51,529
the top of my head. But from

5942
05:20:51,529 --> 05:20:53,932
what I recall been downtown

5943
05:20:53,932 --> 05:20:54,599
that this this serves

5944
05:20:54,599 --> 05:20:56,100
hospitals. It serves some of

5945
05:20:56,100 --> 05:20:56,702
our most critical facilities

5946
05:20:56,702 --> 05:20:59,370
and you can find it and report

5947
05:20:59,370 --> 05:21:02,307
if any of you would want to

5948
05:21:02,307 --> 05:21:03,641
reach out to be all be happy to

5949
05:21:03,641 --> 05:21:04,642
send you the report and

5950
05:21:04,642 --> 05:21:06,945
this is just one part of our

5951
05:21:06,945 --> 05:21:07,913
city. How in that plan that we

5952
05:21:07,913 --> 05:21:11,182
have we put x amount of money

5953
05:21:11,182 --> 05:21:13,582
into capital improvements and

5954
05:21:13,618 --> 05:21:14,219
from what I recall were

5955
05:21:14,219 --> 05:21:15,453
only covering about 20.

5956
05:21:15,453 --> 05:21:16,321
Something and the actual need

5957
05:21:16,321 --> 05:21:19,657
of the water. Pipes in downtown

5958
05:21:19,657 --> 05:21:22,657
is that correct that's correct.

5959
05:21:22,794 --> 05:21:24,794
Okay and so

5960
05:21:26,198 --> 05:21:29,400
when you look at that map.

5961
05:21:29,400 --> 05:21:31,800
Found to be critical.

5962
05:21:32,604 --> 05:21:35,400
Not in the yellow

5963
05:21:35,840 --> 05:21:37,840
in the red.

5964
05:21:39,211 --> 05:21:41,346
And that is the reality

5965
05:21:41,346 --> 05:21:42,347
that we have to deal with.

5966
05:21:42,347 --> 05:21:44,315
And that is one part. And those

5967
05:21:44,315 --> 05:21:46,715
are critical facilities that

5968
05:21:46,851 --> 05:21:50,122
are served and we're not even

5969
05:21:50,122 --> 05:21:53,158
Abel to pay all the cost of

5970
05:21:53,158 --> 05:21:55,158
that.

5971
05:21:56,728 --> 05:21:57,462
>> It would be great if I had

5972
05:21:57,462 --> 05:21:59,462
an answer for

5973
05:22:00,732 --> 05:22:01,432
everyone in terms of how we pay

5974
05:22:01,432 --> 05:22:02,934
for this and if someone has a

5975
05:22:02,934 --> 05:22:03,635
solution but at the end of the

5976
05:22:03,635 --> 05:22:06,504
day. It's going to cost money

5977
05:22:06,504 --> 05:22:09,174
one way or the other or things

5978
05:22:09,174 --> 05:22:09,875
don't get done and then we're

5979
05:22:09,875 --> 05:22:12,100
Blaine forcing which bill are

5980
05:22:12,100 --> 05:22:14,646
worth waiting for the pipes or

5981
05:22:14,646 --> 05:22:15,413
you not getting water that's

5982
05:22:15,413 --> 05:22:18,413
safe. And that's the challenge

5983
05:22:18,683 --> 05:22:23,483
that I have I wish I could say.

5984
05:22:27,325 --> 05:22:27,992
We try to balance the needs and

5985
05:22:27,992 --> 05:22:29,494
try to look at the rates and

5986
05:22:29,494 --> 05:22:32,130
raise them enough to where we

5987
05:22:32,130 --> 05:22:34,766
can get some of these projects

5988
05:22:34,766 --> 05:22:35,466
done but not to the point where

5989
05:22:35,466 --> 05:22:38,403
it's too much and that's what

5990
05:22:38,403 --> 05:22:40,105
we're trying to do here if it's

5991
05:22:40,105 --> 05:22:41,600
8% were not

5992
05:22:41,600 --> 05:22:42,841
we're always looking at how can

5993
05:22:42,841 --> 05:22:43,608
we do it so you can get these

5994
05:22:43,608 --> 05:22:44,609
projects helping you save money

5995
05:22:44,609 --> 05:22:47,609
on these projects helping you

5996
05:22:47,879 --> 05:22:48,713
make these projects more cost

5997
05:22:48,713 --> 05:22:49,747
effective

5998
05:22:49,747 --> 05:22:50,849
if you're digging a hole here

5999
05:22:50,849 --> 05:22:53,918
and you have to fix this can be

6000
05:22:53,918 --> 05:22:54,453
fixed for 3 things at the same

6001
05:22:54,453 --> 05:22:56,853
time so that capital

6002
05:22:57,389 --> 05:22:58,590
improvement project doesn't

6003
05:22:58,590 --> 05:22:59,591
cost us more. That's what

6004
05:22:59,591 --> 05:23:00,792
the engineers are doing

6005
05:23:00,792 --> 05:23:01,459
constantly because we

6006
05:23:01,459 --> 05:23:03,859
understand the challenge we

6007
05:23:04,429 --> 05:23:05,664
feel it we hear it from you all

6008
05:23:05,664 --> 05:23:08,640
we feel it ourselves

6009
05:23:08,233 --> 05:23:11,102
and it's because everyone here

6010
05:23:11,102 --> 05:23:11,803
that's sitting here cares about

6011
05:23:11,803 --> 05:23:12,470
our city. We wouldn't be here

6012
05:23:12,470 --> 05:23:13,271
if we didn't care about our

6013
05:23:13,271 --> 05:23:13,939
city. We do not take money from

6014
05:23:13,939 --> 05:23:16,808
people that we don't need to

6015
05:23:16,808 --> 05:23:19,176
fix projects that we don't need

6016
05:23:19,176 --> 05:23:19,944
that would be.

6017
05:23:19,944 --> 05:23:20,646
But the challenge I have and I

6018
05:23:20,646 --> 05:23:23,460
have these tough conversations

6019
05:23:23,515 --> 05:23:25,515
that neighborhood associations.

6020
05:23:27,850 --> 05:23:28,120
You want these

6021
05:23:28,120 --> 05:23:31,522
projects that and how do we pay

6022
05:23:31,522 --> 05:23:34,590
for them and how do we how do

6023
05:23:34,590 --> 05:23:37,590
we do it responsibly as

6024
05:23:37,362 --> 05:23:38,620
as boards and not why the

6025
05:23:38,620 --> 05:23:40,932
people about the actual needs

6026
05:23:40,932 --> 05:23:41,299
because we actually have actual

6027
05:23:41,299 --> 05:23:42,330
needs. And

6028
05:23:42,330 --> 05:23:45,103
I can pretend they don't exist.

6029
05:23:45,103 --> 05:23:46,304
And it does scare me when I

6030
05:23:46,304 --> 05:23:47,172
look at a report and I see so

6031
05:23:47,172 --> 05:23:50,608
many pipes that are in critical

6032
05:23:50,608 --> 05:23:53,879
need that are fixed that does

6033
05:23:53,879 --> 05:23:56,481
scare me. It really does.

6034
05:23:56,481 --> 05:23:57,448
I have to vote for some of

6035
05:23:57,448 --> 05:23:59,751
these and I know it doesn't

6036
05:23:59,751 --> 05:24:00,619
cover everything and I'm always

6037
05:24:00,619 --> 05:24:03,619
happy to have a conversation

6038
05:24:03,788 --> 05:24:04,455
with anyone of our

6039
05:24:04,455 --> 05:24:05,556
infrastructure needs

6040
05:24:05,556 --> 05:24:06,424
and what we're doing all we can

6041
05:24:06,424 --> 05:24:08,426
it's very easy sometimes to say

6042
05:24:08,426 --> 05:24:09,594
you know what we're going to

6043
05:24:09,594 --> 05:24:11,290
get rid of x y and z and and

6044
05:24:11,290 --> 05:24:12,764
people what people don't know

6045
05:24:12,764 --> 05:24:16,330
is what the actual costs isn't

6046
05:24:16,330 --> 05:24:16,434
it's not a dollars and cents a

6047
05:24:16,434 --> 05:24:18,434
lot of times

6048
05:24:18,904 --> 05:24:19,571
it's the for maintenance.

6049
05:24:19,571 --> 05:24:22,440
It's not really knowing what

6050
05:24:22,440 --> 05:24:23,742
the true cost is we don't even

6051
05:24:23,742 --> 05:24:24,442
have a plan for seawalls yet

6052
05:24:24,442 --> 05:24:26,978
and what that cost is going to

6053
05:24:26,978 --> 05:24:29,280
be that's going to be in the

6054
05:24:29,280 --> 05:24:30,480
building.

6055
05:24:30,480 --> 05:24:33,480
That's not factored into to

6056
05:24:33,118 --> 05:24:36,254
what we can pay. Those are our

6057
05:24:36,254 --> 05:24:37,155
sea walls. A separate

6058
05:24:37,155 --> 05:24:38,156
discussion

6059
05:24:38,156 --> 05:24:39,124
about see what I can tell you

6060
05:24:39,124 --> 05:24:40,892
if I would go through all the

6061
05:24:40,892 --> 05:24:41,660
different things that we need

6062
05:24:41,660 --> 05:24:44,929
in the city it would blow your

6063
05:24:44,929 --> 05:24:47,929
mind. So are we doing

6064
05:24:48,199 --> 05:24:49,968
everything, no we're not.

6065
05:24:49,968 --> 05:24:50,602
But we're trying our

6066
05:24:50,602 --> 05:24:51,302
best with what we can and

6067
05:24:51,302 --> 05:24:53,905
trying to maintain rates to a

6068
05:24:53,905 --> 05:24:54,773
point where we can do some of

6069
05:24:54,773 --> 05:24:56,730
these projects, especially

6070
05:24:56,730 --> 05:24:56,808
after the Hurricanes,

6071
05:24:56,808 --> 05:24:58,944
especially after all the issues

6072
05:24:58,944 --> 05:25:01,944
that happened after the storms

6073
05:25:02,247 --> 05:25:05,247
we had pipe breaks throughout

6074
05:25:05,483 --> 05:25:08,483
the city. After the storm.

6075
05:25:11,722 --> 05:25:13,722
People without water.

6076
05:25:15,193 --> 05:25:16,560
That's what you're talking

6077
05:25:16,560 --> 05:25:17,262
about and if administration or

6078
05:25:17,262 --> 05:25:19,697
someone else that's an expert

6079
05:25:19,697 --> 05:25:22,697
if I've said anything that's

6080
05:25:22,967 --> 05:25:25,367
incorrect please correct me

6081
05:25:26,300 --> 05:25:27,805
please.

6082
05:25:27,805 --> 05:25:30,108
I want to make sure what I am

6083
05:25:30,108 --> 05:25:30,842
telling the public. It's true I

6084
05:25:30,842 --> 05:25:33,811
would take offense to it, but I

6085
05:25:33,811 --> 05:25:37,820
want to make sure I'm being

6086
05:25:37,820 --> 05:25:39,482
accurate. What I'm saying.

6087
05:25:39,617 --> 05:25:40,318
>> The biggest challenge we

6088
05:25:40,318 --> 05:25:43,120
have is the age of our system.

6089
05:25:43,120 --> 05:25:45,423
That is the biggest challenge

6090
05:25:45,423 --> 05:25:47,423
we have right.

6091
05:25:48,493 --> 05:25:49,260
We I feel that we've done a

6092
05:25:49,260 --> 05:25:49,927
good job of getting as much

6093
05:25:49,927 --> 05:25:52,830
life out of our system as we

6094
05:25:52,830 --> 05:25:54,933
can we're talking about pipes

6095
05:25:54,933 --> 05:25:55,900
that are a

6096
05:25:55,900 --> 05:25:56,567
100 years old 75 years old.

6097
05:25:56,567 --> 05:25:59,437
I'm 61 years old and I'm

6098
05:25:59,437 --> 05:26:02,674
feeling my age talking a magic

6099
05:26:02,674 --> 05:26:03,575
want to 75 year-old pipe that's

6100
05:26:03,575 --> 05:26:05,543
been buried underground in

6101
05:26:05,543 --> 05:26:06,411
corrosive conditions might feel

6102
05:26:06,411 --> 05:26:09,470
like. And so we have to really

6103
05:26:09,470 --> 05:26:09,914
get to the point where we are

6104
05:26:09,914 --> 05:26:12,914
replacing these are going to

6105
05:26:13,184 --> 05:26:15,153
see a lot more failures more

6106
05:26:15,153 --> 05:26:18,153
often moving into the future.

6107
05:26:18,490 --> 05:26:20,490
>> That's this worthwhile.

6108
05:26:21,759 --> 05:26:22,193
And I love the fact

6109
05:26:22,193 --> 05:26:22,894
that everyone

6110
05:26:22,894 --> 05:26:25,763
right now wants to look in our

6111
05:26:25,763 --> 05:26:26,297
utility and figure it out.

6112
05:26:26,297 --> 05:26:28,697
I think that's great

6113
05:26:29,233 --> 05:26:29,934
because I think the more people

6114
05:26:29,934 --> 05:26:30,601
know the poor the more people

6115
05:26:30,601 --> 05:26:31,269
understand the needs of our

6116
05:26:31,269 --> 05:26:31,903
system and what we're paying

6117
05:26:31,903 --> 05:26:34,772
for and what we can and we

6118
05:26:34,772 --> 05:26:37,772
can't do I think it's

6119
05:26:37,942 --> 05:26:39,942
absolutely better.

6120
05:26:40,778 --> 05:26:42,613
I love the conversations

6121
05:26:42,613 --> 05:26:44,716
of having. Ok how do we do this

6122
05:26:44,716 --> 05:26:45,417
how do we fix this what do you

6123
05:26:45,417 --> 05:26:48,286
what do you expect in service

6124
05:26:48,286 --> 05:26:49,988
when it's a level of service

6125
05:26:49,988 --> 05:26:50,689
you expect.

6126
05:26:50,689 --> 05:26:50,989
And what are the needs in our

6127
05:26:50,989 --> 05:26:51,522
city.

6128
05:26:51,522 --> 05:26:53,124
And those are great

6129
05:26:53,124 --> 05:26:53,791
conversations and citizens

6130
05:26:53,791 --> 05:26:56,191
should be engaged. Citizens

6131
05:26:56,661 --> 05:26:57,695
should be engaged if they bring

6132
05:26:57,695 --> 05:26:58,362
out if we get rid

6133
05:26:58,362 --> 05:26:59,960
of the property taxes what's

6134
05:26:59,960 --> 05:26:59,897
going to happen. I think that's

6135
05:26:59,897 --> 05:27:02,897
great don't keep what don't

6136
05:27:03,167 --> 05:27:03,868
take my word for it don't take

6137
05:27:03,868 --> 05:27:04,602
other politicians word for it

6138
05:27:04,602 --> 05:27:05,369
do the research do the research

6139
05:27:05,369 --> 05:27:07,500
and figure it out because I do

6140
05:27:07,500 --> 05:27:10,500
think it's important and these

6141
05:27:10,341 --> 05:27:10,942
are absolutely critical issues.

6142
05:27:10,942 --> 05:27:13,942
But with that being said

6143
05:27:14,112 --> 05:27:15,313
I just don't find based on the

6144
05:27:15,313 --> 05:27:16,213
information I

6145
05:27:16,213 --> 05:27:18,182
have that we can right now cut

6146
05:27:18,182 --> 05:27:21,452
rates the rate we've tried to

6147
05:27:21,452 --> 05:27:22,219
work as much as we can we've

6148
05:27:22,219 --> 05:27:23,321
increased the water fee.

6149
05:27:23,321 --> 05:27:24,522
Any new development in terms of

6150
05:27:24,522 --> 05:27:25,524
what the impact is in their

6151
05:27:25,524 --> 05:27:26,157
system we do what we legally

6152
05:27:26,157 --> 05:27:29,930
can because they are legal

6153
05:27:29,930 --> 05:27:29,594
restrictions into how much we

6154
05:27:29,594 --> 05:27:31,994
can charge for you

6155
05:27:32,163 --> 05:27:35,133
for new additions into a system

6156
05:27:35,133 --> 05:27:37,102
and we try to do that and we're

6157
05:27:37,102 --> 05:27:38,403
trying to find ways to minimize

6158
05:27:38,403 --> 05:27:39,403
the cost. And so if anyone here

6159
05:27:39,403 --> 05:27:42,674
in this room, I don't care if

6160
05:27:42,674 --> 05:27:44,642
you're my district or not wants

6161
05:27:44,642 --> 05:27:45,342
to have those conversations.

6162
05:27:45,342 --> 05:27:46,177
Called my my legislative aide

6163
05:27:46,177 --> 05:27:49,447
and we can sit down and we can

6164
05:27:49,447 --> 05:27:52,617
talk about all the things I

6165
05:27:52,617 --> 05:27:53,317
welcome you to.

6166
05:27:53,317 --> 05:27:55,286
And I will make sure that

6167
05:27:55,286 --> 05:27:55,853
anyone that we have we have

6168
05:27:55,853 --> 05:27:58,253
someone from our water

6169
05:27:58,790 --> 05:27:59,390
Department or someone to be

6170
05:27:59,390 --> 05:28:00,391
there to

6171
05:28:00,391 --> 05:28:01,580
answer anything to make sure

6172
05:28:01,580 --> 05:28:03,561
that you get the information

6173
05:28:03,561 --> 05:28:04,262
that you need and if there are

6174
05:28:04,262 --> 05:28:05,529
questions that you have asked

6175
05:28:05,529 --> 05:28:06,297
here today that are not

6176
05:28:06,297 --> 05:28:09,297
answered. We can have those

6177
05:28:09,567 --> 05:28:12,567
conversations and I'll be happy

6178
05:28:12,770 --> 05:28:14,406
to do that.

6179
05:28:14,406 --> 05:28:16,807
So with that being said

6180
05:28:16,807 --> 05:28:17,508
approval j to l a. We have a

6181
05:28:17,508 --> 05:28:18,176
motion and the second clerk if

6182
05:28:18,176 --> 05:28:20,645
you can open the machine for

6183
05:28:20,645 --> 05:28:23,450
voting. Council members please

6184
05:28:23,881 --> 05:28:25,881
enter your votes.

6185
05:28:27,510 --> 05:28:30,510
You got j to a.

6186
05:28:39,464 --> 05:28:40,532
>> MADAM Chair, the motion to

6187
05:28:40,532 --> 05:28:43,835
approve agenda item j to a

6188
05:28:43,835 --> 05:28:44,468
passes 62 with councilmembers

6189
05:28:44,468 --> 05:28:46,468
fix. Sanders Floyd

6190
05:28:47,739 --> 05:28:50,739
gabbard Curtis Hanna which at

6191
05:28:50,908 --> 05:28:51,942
Harding voting. Yes.

6192
05:28:51,942 --> 05:28:52,444
Council members to school in

6193
05:28:52,444 --> 05:28:53,110
Givens voting no.

6194
05:28:53,110 --> 05:28:53,811
Okay move approval j to be.

6195
05:28:53,811 --> 05:28:56,614
I can have a motion a second a

6196
05:28:56,614 --> 05:28:57,949
j to be clerk if you can open

6197
05:28:57,949 --> 05:28:58,616
the machine for voting.

6198
05:28:58,616 --> 05:29:01,160
Council members please enter

6199
05:29:01,519 --> 05:29:03,919
your votes. Seeing present

6200
05:29:04,789 --> 05:29:07,559
council members a vote a

6201
05:29:07,559 --> 05:29:07,859
clerk please tally announce the

6202
05:29:07,859 --> 05:29:08,493
vote.

6203
05:29:08,493 --> 05:29:09,160
MADAM Chair, the motion to

6204
05:29:09,160 --> 05:29:11,950
approve agenda item j to be

6205
05:29:11,950 --> 05:29:11,596
passes 62 with councilmembers

6206
05:29:11,596 --> 05:29:12,263
fix. Sanders Floyd

6207
05:29:12,263 --> 05:29:12,930
gabbard Curtis Hannah what's

6208
05:29:12,930 --> 05:29:15,833
and hearty voting, yes, and

6209
05:29:15,833 --> 05:29:18,833
council members just school in

6210
05:29:18,970 --> 05:29:20,304
Givens voting no.

6211
05:29:20,304 --> 05:29:21,572
>> Move approval j to see.

6212
05:29:21,572 --> 05:29:24,842
We have a motion a second on g

6213
05:29:24,842 --> 05:29:25,510
to seek work if you can open

6214
05:29:25,510 --> 05:29:27,510
machine for voting.

6215
05:29:28,880 --> 05:29:29,680
Council members please and your

6216
05:29:29,680 --> 05:29:30,348
votes seeing present

6217
05:29:30,348 --> 05:29:31,820
council members voted clerk

6218
05:29:31,820 --> 05:29:33,584
please Kelly announce the vote.

6219
05:29:33,584 --> 05:29:34,919
MADAM Chair, the motion to

6220
05:29:34,919 --> 05:29:36,919
approve agenda item

6221
05:29:38,289 --> 05:29:39,290
j to see passes 5 to 3 with

6222
05:29:39,290 --> 05:29:40,580
councilmembers fix Sanders

6223
05:29:40,580 --> 05:29:40,658
gabbard Curtis Hannah with some

6224
05:29:40,658 --> 05:29:43,580
Harding voting. Yes and

6225
05:29:43,628 --> 05:29:45,628
councilmembers Driscoll Floyd

6226
05:29:46,798 --> 05:29:49,198
in Givens voting no.

6227
05:29:51,435 --> 05:29:53,710
>> ok thank you thank you

6228
05:29:53,710 --> 05:29:53,771
everyone for being here on this

6229
05:29:53,771 --> 05:29:56,774
item we actually have got into

6230
05:29:56,774 --> 05:29:57,976
7 o'clock. We'll gonna have to

6231
05:29:57,976 --> 05:29:58,576
take a 10 minute recess.

6232
05:29:58,576 --> 05:29:59,310
But I really appreciate

6233
05:29:59,310 --> 05:30:02,310
everyone that's here today and

6234
05:30:02,580 --> 05:30:05,850
for now at this point we'll

6235
05:30:05,850 --> 05:30:08,850
take a recess. Thank you.

6236
05:31:18,790 --> 05:31:20,790
>> Staff.

6237
05:31:21,859 --> 05:31:23,859
It.

6238
05:38:16,507 --> 05:38:18,507
>> One.

6239
05:41:52,890 --> 05:41:53,357
>> And

6240
05:41:53,357 --> 05:41:56,627
back in session. We're going to

6241
05:41:56,627 --> 05:41:57,427
take up day 3 which has to do

6242
05:41:57,427 --> 05:41:58,162
with the

6243
05:41:58,162 --> 05:42:00,562
arts funding development bonus.

6244
05:42:00,998 --> 05:42:03,398
Council member driskell this

6245
05:42:04,268 --> 05:42:05,235
was your item originally

6246
05:42:05,235 --> 05:42:05,535
so if you want to start us off

6247
05:42:05,535 --> 05:42:06,136
on it.

6248
05:42:06,136 --> 05:42:08,572
Thank you. And thanks to

6249
05:42:08,572 --> 05:42:11,541
everyone who from city staff

6250
05:42:11,541 --> 05:42:12,209
worked on it from dairy to you.

6251
05:42:12,209 --> 05:42:13,611
Heather judge to Swiss Davis

6252
05:42:13,611 --> 05:42:16,611
everyone who has been involved

6253
05:42:16,947 --> 05:42:20,384
with making this happen is you

6254
05:42:20,384 --> 05:42:22,152
just greatly appreciated,

6255
05:42:22,152 --> 05:42:22,786
this is something that

6256
05:42:22,786 --> 05:42:25,690
you know was brought to me

6257
05:42:25,690 --> 05:42:26,890
originally as it has an idea

6258
05:42:26,890 --> 05:42:26,957
for the

6259
05:42:26,957 --> 05:42:29,357
warehouse arts district folks,

6260
05:42:30,227 --> 05:42:32,629
n they have an idea to create

6261
05:42:32,629 --> 05:42:33,230
this fund and then

6262
05:42:33,230 --> 05:42:34,832
some folks from the arts

6263
05:42:34,832 --> 05:42:37,232
alliance came forward in

6264
05:42:37,701 --> 05:42:40,538
presented me with an option for

6265
05:42:40,538 --> 05:42:41,272
funding mechanism. N we started

6266
05:42:41,272 --> 05:42:42,600
putting everything together and

6267
05:42:42,600 --> 05:42:45,109
now here we are today. So there

6268
05:42:45,109 --> 05:42:48,178
were a lot of people involved

6269
05:42:48,178 --> 05:42:50,178
in this.

6270
05:42:50,247 --> 05:42:53,517
I do hope that today is

6271
05:42:53,517 --> 05:42:57,254
not the end but just simply the

6272
05:42:57,254 --> 05:42:59,220
first big step towards

6273
05:42:59,220 --> 05:42:59,890
creating a new opportunity for

6274
05:42:59,890 --> 05:43:02,493
local artists. After today if

6275
05:43:02,493 --> 05:43:05,493
this should pass today. Then

6276
05:43:05,663 --> 05:43:06,297
the next step would be to have

6277
05:43:06,297 --> 05:43:07,765
that actual grant program

6278
05:43:07,765 --> 05:43:10,165
established and start getting

6279
05:43:11,340 --> 05:43:12,670
the money out to the artists as

6280
05:43:12,670 --> 05:43:15,700
it comes in so.

6281
05:43:15,306 --> 05:43:16,940
I just really appreciate all of

6282
05:43:16,940 --> 05:43:19,900
the attention that has been

6283
05:43:19,900 --> 05:43:22,346
given to this and I'm looking

6284
05:43:22,346 --> 05:43:24,481
forward to seeing where we go

6285
05:43:24,481 --> 05:43:26,160
from here with that.

6286
05:43:26,160 --> 05:43:26,717
Derek I left free to introduce

6287
05:43:26,717 --> 05:43:29,954
them MADAM Chair. He has read

6288
05:43:29,954 --> 05:43:32,989
the title yet. Thank you, I'm

6289
05:43:32,989 --> 05:43:34,989
sorry.

6290
05:43:37,628 --> 05:43:37,894
Pause or DECEMBER 6.43 dash

6291
05:43:37,894 --> 05:43:38,529
age.

6292
05:43:38,529 --> 05:43:41,698
And on some ending the St.

6293
05:43:41,698 --> 05:43:44,980
Petersburg city code section,

6294
05:43:45,100 --> 05:43:47,100
20016.1 to 6.2

6295
05:43:48,175 --> 05:43:50,175
20016.1 3 0.5

6296
05:43:51,242 --> 05:43:53,242
0.2 and

6297
05:43:54,511 --> 05:43:55,245
20016.1 5 5.2 regulating

6298
05:43:55,245 --> 05:43:56,413
Fort bliss is by

6299
05:43:56,413 --> 05:43:59,413
replacing the far Bo this

6300
05:43:59,716 --> 05:43:59,983
table. It thereby adding in

6301
05:43:59,983 --> 05:44:01,983
arts

6302
05:44:03,870 --> 05:44:03,520
funding development bonus and

6303
05:44:03,520 --> 05:44:05,520
in the Senate

6304
05:44:05,823 --> 05:44:08,823
heading for each exist existing

6305
05:44:09,930 --> 05:44:11,295
bonus and we are organizing the

6306
05:44:11,295 --> 05:44:13,695
table in alphabetical order

6307
05:44:14,564 --> 05:44:16,564
amending section 16.30 0, 6 3.1

6308
05:44:17,735 --> 05:44:19,735
point

6309
05:44:20,371 --> 05:44:22,371
deep 0.1 and 30016.0 5 5.1

6310
05:44:22,806 --> 05:44:23,540
regulating for bonuses. I and

6311
05:44:23,540 --> 05:44:26,540
ii and arts funding development

6312
05:44:26,710 --> 05:44:28,710
bonus, providing for

6313
05:44:29,846 --> 05:44:31,846
severability in Peru.

6314
05:44:39,323 --> 05:44:40,230
>> Paul Carter please go to

6315
05:44:40,230 --> 05:44:42,493
either podium and open podium

6316
05:44:42,493 --> 05:44:43,594
state your name address across

6317
05:44:43,594 --> 05:44:44,295
Street for the record you

6318
05:44:44,295 --> 05:44:44,628
have 3 minutes to address City

6319
05:44:44,628 --> 05:44:46,628
Council.

6320
05:44:47,397 --> 05:44:49,266
Thank you Paula Carter live it

6321
05:44:49,266 --> 05:44:49,867
3, 4,

6322
05:44:49,867 --> 05:44:52,736
one 5th Street South in

6323
05:44:52,736 --> 05:44:54,736
downtown Saint Pete.

6324
05:44:56,600 --> 05:44:56,540
And I guess I'm the public

6325
05:44:56,540 --> 05:44:57,674
I'm here to support

6326
05:44:57,674 --> 05:45:00,740
the arts density bonus

6327
05:45:00,310 --> 05:45:02,310
proposal.

6328
05:45:03,146 --> 05:45:06,146
Probably not a surprise too.

6329
05:45:06,417 --> 05:45:06,784
Many of you. You know the Holy

6330
05:45:06,784 --> 05:45:08,752
Grail for

6331
05:45:08,752 --> 05:45:10,821
the Arts community in Saint

6332
05:45:10,821 --> 05:45:12,220
Pete has been to find a

6333
05:45:12,220 --> 05:45:14,422
sustainable funding source to

6334
05:45:14,625 --> 05:45:17,928
support the arts. And I think

6335
05:45:17,928 --> 05:45:20,328
with this initiative we're

6336
05:45:21,970 --> 05:45:21,765
taking in

6337
05:45:21,765 --> 05:45:25,102
I hope you take a giant step

6338
05:45:25,102 --> 05:45:26,300
forward towards accomplishing

6339
05:45:26,300 --> 05:45:28,300
that 2 other

6340
05:45:29,720 --> 05:45:32,420
quick Number one I hope that as

6341
05:45:32,420 --> 05:45:34,420
the implementation plans

6342
05:45:34,445 --> 05:45:35,412
develop that the arts advisory

6343
05:45:35,412 --> 05:45:38,412
committee and the Saint Pete

6344
05:45:38,749 --> 05:45:41,749
arts alliance. Our active and

6345
05:45:42,520 --> 05:45:42,553
substantial member years

6346
05:45:42,553 --> 05:45:44,553
of whatever group

6347
05:45:45,556 --> 05:45:47,357
is a determined to administer.

6348
05:45:47,357 --> 05:45:49,757
What I hope the

6349
05:45:50,560 --> 05:45:52,596
substantial grants over the

6350
05:45:52,596 --> 05:45:55,866
years and then the 3rd point.

6351
05:45:55,866 --> 05:45:59,360
This is I've been involved with

6352
05:45:59,360 --> 05:45:59,736
this for

6353
05:45:59,736 --> 05:46:00,437
pretty close to the beginning

6354
05:46:00,437 --> 05:46:02,673
and as council member driskell

6355
05:46:02,673 --> 05:46:04,508
said there's been a ton of

6356
05:46:04,508 --> 05:46:05,709
folks here but I want to

6357
05:46:05,709 --> 05:46:08,109
particularly point to the

6358
05:46:08,679 --> 05:46:12,150
council and the staff and Derek

6359
05:46:12,150 --> 05:46:15,285
and his group. This was not an

6360
05:46:15,285 --> 05:46:18,285
easy thing to figure out

6361
05:46:18,522 --> 05:46:19,957
and the persistence

6362
05:46:19,957 --> 05:46:22,957
and the I guess I'm

6363
05:46:23,293 --> 05:46:23,894
sure late hours going into

6364
05:46:23,894 --> 05:46:25,894
this.

6365
05:46:26,296 --> 05:46:28,599
The final result, and this

6366
05:46:28,599 --> 05:46:31,599
conclusion. As a resident and

6367
05:46:32,200 --> 05:46:33,303
as a taxpayer. I really do

6368
05:46:33,303 --> 05:46:34,370
appreciate the work that you

6369
05:46:34,370 --> 05:46:36,140
guys and the staff did on this.

6370
05:46:36,140 --> 05:46:37,207
It will ultimately be of great

6371
05:46:37,207 --> 05:46:40,207
benefit to the tenor community

6372
05:46:40,377 --> 05:46:41,612
certainly to the arts

6373
05:46:41,612 --> 05:46:43,612
community.

6374
05:46:44,130 --> 05:46:46,830
And I hope I don't have to urge

6375
05:46:46,830 --> 05:46:47,184
you to vote, yes, I hope that

6376
05:46:47,184 --> 05:46:50,587
happens. But I will urge you in

6377
05:46:50,587 --> 05:46:53,857
any of that too vote yes on

6378
05:46:53,857 --> 05:46:56,857
this. Thank you. Thank you.

6379
05:47:00,764 --> 05:47:01,732
Good evening. Thank you.

6380
05:47:01,732 --> 05:47:02,599
I heard in the introduction in

6381
05:47:02,599 --> 05:47:05,599
reference to the arts alliance

6382
05:47:05,869 --> 05:47:09,139
and know that they had a

6383
05:47:09,139 --> 05:47:10,374
representative here earlier.

6384
05:47:10,374 --> 05:47:11,341
That I don't see in the room

6385
05:47:11,341 --> 05:47:13,310
now what I do want to do is

6386
05:47:13,310 --> 05:47:13,977
just maybe walk through quickly

6387
05:47:13,977 --> 05:47:15,946
instead of getting the full

6388
05:47:15,946 --> 05:47:17,946
presentation just highlight

6389
05:47:19,215 --> 05:47:20,160
some of the things that have

6390
05:47:20,160 --> 05:47:21,952
changed in response to what

6391
05:47:21,952 --> 05:47:22,853
we heard before. So just going

6392
05:47:22,853 --> 05:47:23,587
back on the calendar you can

6393
05:47:23,587 --> 05:47:26,456
see here these were the earlier

6394
05:47:26,456 --> 05:47:27,991
meetings where we walk through

6395
05:47:27,991 --> 05:47:29,626
some of the different

6396
05:47:29,626 --> 05:47:32,260
issues related to this

6397
05:47:32,796 --> 05:47:34,796
proposal. Specifically these

6398
05:47:36,660 --> 05:47:36,967
were the areas that we needed

6399
05:47:36,967 --> 05:47:37,934
to work through with

6400
05:47:37,934 --> 05:47:39,803
the council and the committee.

6401
05:47:39,803 --> 05:47:41,105
One of the things that we spent

6402
05:47:41,105 --> 05:47:44,941
a lot of time on with the help

6403
05:47:44,941 --> 05:47:45,609
of the City Attorney's Office

6404
05:47:45,609 --> 05:47:48,545
identifying and Nexis to the

6405
05:47:48,545 --> 05:47:48,979
land development impact that

6406
05:47:48,979 --> 05:47:50,979
was a critical

6407
05:47:51,381 --> 05:47:52,282
threshold for us to get

6408
05:47:52,282 --> 05:47:54,451
through. And then us working

6409
05:47:54,451 --> 05:47:55,118
specifically from our position

6410
05:47:55,118 --> 05:47:57,518
on any proposed land

6411
05:47:58,389 --> 05:48:00,389
development regulations which

6412
05:48:01,625 --> 05:48:03,193
is the bonus itself.

6413
05:48:03,193 --> 05:48:03,861
In a this

6414
05:48:03,861 --> 05:48:04,628
particular official process.

6415
05:48:04,628 --> 05:48:07,698
The one thing that happens with

6416
05:48:07,698 --> 05:48:08,665
every text amendment is it goes

6417
05:48:08,665 --> 05:48:09,433
to the city's development

6418
05:48:09,433 --> 05:48:12,402
review Commission. They have to

6419
05:48:12,402 --> 05:48:13,803
make a finding of consistency

6420
05:48:13,803 --> 05:48:15,500
with the city's comprehensive

6421
05:48:15,500 --> 05:48:18,274
plan and then recommend to the

6422
05:48:18,274 --> 05:48:21,274
City Council which with which

6423
05:48:21,445 --> 05:48:22,345
they did.

6424
05:48:22,345 --> 05:48:24,745
In JULY with a

6425
05:48:25,315 --> 05:48:26,283
unanimous 7, 0, vote. Now the

6426
05:48:26,283 --> 05:48:29,283
last time that we presented

6427
05:48:29,553 --> 05:48:30,454
this in committee. One of the

6428
05:48:30,454 --> 05:48:32,454
things that came

6429
05:48:33,623 --> 05:48:34,591
up was a request for us to

6430
05:48:34,591 --> 05:48:36,226
consider. Other areas not

6431
05:48:36,226 --> 05:48:38,328
downtown center. So when we

6432
05:48:38,328 --> 05:48:40,728
prepared the application to

6433
05:48:40,730 --> 05:48:43,567
bring to the development review

6434
05:48:43,567 --> 05:48:45,436
Commission. We added in in

6435
05:48:45,436 --> 05:48:47,836
addition to the downtown

6436
05:48:48,839 --> 05:48:49,607
center. The employment center

6437
05:48:49,607 --> 05:48:50,574
to category which is one of

6438
05:48:50,574 --> 05:48:53,743
the categories where we have a

6439
05:48:53,743 --> 05:48:54,344
bonus system. This is

6440
05:48:54,344 --> 05:48:56,344
essentially the hospital

6441
05:48:57,314 --> 05:48:59,549
college campus south of

6442
05:48:59,549 --> 05:49:01,549
downtown. Also rc 3

6443
05:49:01,618 --> 05:49:03,486
which is carillon town center.

6444
05:49:03,486 --> 05:49:04,254
There is a bonus system there

6445
05:49:04,254 --> 05:49:07,254
and adding the arts funding

6446
05:49:07,590 --> 05:49:10,590
bonus also worked in that

6447
05:49:10,794 --> 05:49:11,461
table. And

6448
05:49:11,461 --> 05:49:12,950
then in addition to these 2.

6449
05:49:12,950 --> 05:49:14,831
What's not included in the

6450
05:49:14,831 --> 05:49:17,831
presentation but is included in

6451
05:49:18,101 --> 05:49:21,101
the ordinance itself is adding

6452
05:49:21,305 --> 05:49:21,672
the same bonus to the

6453
05:49:21,672 --> 05:49:23,340
sunrun or

6454
05:49:23,340 --> 05:49:25,740
brt overlay which recently

6455
05:49:26,577 --> 05:49:28,645
adopted and also the 22th

6456
05:49:28,645 --> 05:49:31,450
Street target employment center

6457
05:49:31,881 --> 05:49:32,583
local overlay which is very

6458
05:49:32,583 --> 05:49:33,550
obviously arts oriented

6459
05:49:33,550 --> 05:49:35,950
along with employment and

6460
05:49:36,860 --> 05:49:39,256
industrial. So we can pull the

6461
05:49:39,256 --> 05:49:40,324
slide back up if you need to

6462
05:49:40,324 --> 05:49:41,910
see the language. But otherwise

6463
05:49:41,910 --> 05:49:44,910
staff of course is recommending

6464
05:49:44,428 --> 05:49:45,950
approval of this proposed text

6465
05:49:45,950 --> 05:49:46,462
amendment along with the drc

6466
05:49:46,462 --> 05:49:49,462
finding of consistency with the

6467
05:49:49,733 --> 05:49:51,735
comp plan make you feel like I

6468
05:49:51,735 --> 05:49:52,469
can we have a motion a

6469
05:49:52,469 --> 05:49:54,869
second council member driskell.

6470
05:49:55,105 --> 05:49:58,105
>> Thanks just before we vote.

6471
05:49:58,308 --> 05:49:59,420
I was one of maybe robbed this

6472
05:49:59,420 --> 05:49:59,776
is. I would be more for you and

6473
05:49:59,776 --> 05:50:02,545
the ticket and up update for us

6474
05:50:02,545 --> 05:50:05,382
on the actual grant program I

6475
05:50:05,382 --> 05:50:07,382
know that.

6476
05:50:08,652 --> 05:50:11,652
You know Celeste office that's

6477
05:50:11,722 --> 05:50:13,722
like in

6478
05:50:15,625 --> 05:50:16,260
their hands. So I was when and

6479
05:50:16,260 --> 05:50:16,994
where we're at with that.

6480
05:50:16,994 --> 05:50:19,620
It's less is here to see she is

6481
05:50:19,620 --> 05:50:19,596
hi sorry can see over there.

6482
05:50:19,596 --> 05:50:22,332
The plan is to reach

6483
05:50:22,332 --> 05:50:23,000
out and to meet with. Those in

6484
05:50:23,000 --> 05:50:24,301
the arts community that were

6485
05:50:24,301 --> 05:50:26,937
impacted by the nexus to figure

6486
05:50:26,937 --> 05:50:29,773
out what would be the best

6487
05:50:29,773 --> 05:50:32,173
outcome should Council approve.

6488
05:50:33,430 --> 05:50:34,912
So it is it does have to have

6489
05:50:34,912 --> 05:50:35,579
that connection

6490
05:50:35,579 --> 05:50:37,747
and I wanted to reach out to

6491
05:50:37,747 --> 05:50:38,749
Saint Pete arts alliance, which

6492
05:50:38,749 --> 05:50:41,149
I've done already Leslie

6493
05:50:42,860 --> 05:50:43,353
current who was very impactful

6494
05:50:43,353 --> 05:50:46,353
on the history and research

6495
05:50:46,656 --> 05:50:47,824
and the art advisory committee.

6496
05:50:47,824 --> 05:50:49,824
Excellent thank you.

6497
05:50:51,950 --> 05:50:54,950
And hopefully you can provide

6498
05:50:54,264 --> 05:50:54,798
an update.

6499
05:50:54,798 --> 05:50:55,799
Down the road just a

6500
05:50:55,799 --> 05:50:56,499
little bit as you're putting

6501
05:50:56,499 --> 05:50:59,369
this together in the economic

6502
05:50:59,369 --> 05:51:00,971
and workforce development

6503
05:51:00,971 --> 05:51:01,738
committee.

6504
05:51:01,738 --> 05:51:02,405
>> And you know, I'm eating so

6505
05:51:02,405 --> 05:51:05,275
I'll be in touch to see when

6506
05:51:05,275 --> 05:51:08,912
you think that might be a good

6507
05:51:08,912 --> 05:51:09,579
idea to put that on the agenda.

6508
05:51:09,579 --> 05:51:10,179
>> We'll do I just wanted to

6509
05:51:10,179 --> 05:51:12,549
get the impact from our

6510
05:51:12,549 --> 05:51:13,383
information from those entities

6511
05:51:13,383 --> 05:51:14,840
that are

6512
05:51:14,840 --> 05:51:16,920
really directly impact to yes

6513
05:51:16,920 --> 05:51:19,656
all right, thank you so much

6514
05:51:19,656 --> 05:51:20,356
all right, thank you

6515
05:51:20,356 --> 05:51:20,690
chair, thank you councilmember

6516
05:51:20,690 --> 05:51:21,258
Givens.

6517
05:51:21,258 --> 05:51:21,891
Thank you very much I

6518
05:51:21,891 --> 05:51:22,525
appreciate you COUNCILMAN

6519
05:51:22,525 --> 05:51:23,693
Driscoll for bringing this

6520
05:51:23,693 --> 05:51:26,129
forward I really think this

6521
05:51:26,129 --> 05:51:29,399
kind of lays the groundwork for

6522
05:51:29,399 --> 05:51:32,135
future bonuses that could come

6523
05:51:32,135 --> 05:51:32,836
whether it be

6524
05:51:32,836 --> 05:51:33,436
for educators first responders

6525
05:51:33,436 --> 05:51:34,137
you name it health care

6526
05:51:34,137 --> 05:51:34,805
workers. So thank you for that

6527
05:51:34,805 --> 05:51:36,840
and just since one sunshine

6528
05:51:36,840 --> 05:51:37,941
want to let you and other

6529
05:51:37,941 --> 05:51:40,109
council members know this is

6530
05:51:40,109 --> 05:51:41,745
such a timely come percent

6531
05:51:41,745 --> 05:51:42,378
conversation how apropos

6532
05:51:42,378 --> 05:51:45,378
because next week on Sept.

6533
05:51:45,381 --> 05:51:46,683
Second I'll be having a

6534
05:51:46,683 --> 05:51:47,550
conversation with some

6535
05:51:47,550 --> 05:51:50,550
of the artists and gallery

6536
05:51:50,720 --> 05:51:51,721
owners and studios specifically

6537
05:51:51,721 --> 05:51:54,791
around this topic so I'm so

6538
05:51:54,791 --> 05:51:55,458
happy to see this come forward

6539
05:51:55,458 --> 05:51:56,159
and I'm sure hope it passes

6540
05:51:56,159 --> 05:51:58,628
because I think it's a timely

6541
05:51:58,628 --> 05:52:01,231
matter in a timely conversation

6542
05:52:01,231 --> 05:52:01,865
so thank you so

6543
05:52:01,865 --> 05:52:02,165
much, thank you, thank you

6544
05:52:02,165 --> 05:52:02,699
chair.

6545
05:52:02,699 --> 05:52:05,990
Thank you. Thank you

6546
05:52:05,535 --> 05:52:07,237
councilmember dressel great job

6547
05:52:07,237 --> 05:52:08,438
on I will say I'm part of

6548
05:52:08,438 --> 05:52:09,540
the arts advisory committee

6549
05:52:09,540 --> 05:52:12,809
right now I know that that

6550
05:52:12,809 --> 05:52:13,376
committee is interested to

6551
05:52:13,376 --> 05:52:14,577
learn more

6552
05:52:14,577 --> 05:52:17,815
about this and Paul sirs with

6553
05:52:17,815 --> 05:52:19,820
me site hope that at some point

6554
05:52:19,820 --> 05:52:19,782
maybe Derek you

6555
05:52:19,782 --> 05:52:20,483
can come to the committee and

6556
05:52:20,483 --> 05:52:23,200
kind of share this and then I

6557
05:52:23,200 --> 05:52:24,654
know so lets will keep us

6558
05:52:24,654 --> 05:52:25,321
updated on and see how

6559
05:52:25,321 --> 05:52:25,989
kind of you develop the fund

6560
05:52:25,989 --> 05:52:26,656
and all that because I think

6561
05:52:26,656 --> 05:52:27,324
you're part of that is still

6562
05:52:27,324 --> 05:52:28,992
haven't been figured out and

6563
05:52:28,992 --> 05:52:31,327
how that's going to be

6564
05:52:31,327 --> 05:52:33,327
administered.

6565
05:52:34,565 --> 05:52:35,899
We have a motion a second clerk

6566
05:52:35,899 --> 05:52:36,566
if you can

6567
05:52:36,566 --> 05:52:37,234
open the machine for voting

6568
05:52:37,234 --> 05:52:39,634
council members please enter

6569
05:52:39,736 --> 05:52:41,605
your votes seeing that a prison

6570
05:52:41,605 --> 05:52:42,205
council members

6571
05:52:42,205 --> 05:52:42,706
voted clerk please Tele

6572
05:52:42,706 --> 05:52:43,339
announce the vote.

6573
05:52:43,339 --> 05:52:45,575
And chair of the motion to

6574
05:52:45,575 --> 05:52:48,575
approve agenda item j 3 passes

6575
05:52:49,120 --> 05:52:49,379
unanimously. Okay great.

6576
05:52:49,379 --> 05:52:50,460
Thank you.

6577
05:52:50,460 --> 05:52:50,747
>> Next up we have Jay for.

6578
05:52:50,747 --> 05:52:53,550
He could quickly can read the

6579
05:52:53,550 --> 05:52:55,152
ordinance proposed or is number

6580
05:52:55,152 --> 05:52:57,152
6.36 dash h

6581
05:52:57,354 --> 05:52:58,121
once of the city of St.

6582
05:52:58,121 --> 05:53:01,121
Petersburg Florida and many of

6583
05:53:01,458 --> 05:53:03,560
its comprehensive plan. In

6584
05:53:03,560 --> 05:53:05,560
chapter 3 future

6585
05:53:06,863 --> 05:53:07,263
future land use element issue

6586
05:53:07,263 --> 05:53:09,263
nach natural

6587
05:53:09,599 --> 05:53:10,801
resources and objective.

6588
05:53:10,801 --> 05:53:13,336
All you 6 and policy value, 6.1

6589
05:53:13,336 --> 05:53:15,736
to remove Marina development

6590
05:53:16,573 --> 05:53:17,474
restrictions in the North the

6591
05:53:17,474 --> 05:53:18,800
North yacht

6592
05:53:18,800 --> 05:53:19,443
Basin providing for

6593
05:53:19,443 --> 05:53:21,311
severability and providing for

6594
05:53:21,311 --> 05:53:22,612
an effective date and we do not

6595
05:53:22,612 --> 05:53:24,380
have any cards and the frugal

6596
05:53:24,380 --> 05:53:25,449
back in the motion a second her

6597
05:53:25,449 --> 05:53:27,417
mother Heather, I believe you

6598
05:53:27,417 --> 05:53:30,417
actually want to say something

6599
05:53:30,854 --> 05:53:34,257
first yes just for clarity sake

6600
05:53:34,257 --> 05:53:37,560
if we could end section one

6601
05:53:37,560 --> 05:53:38,795
the injury introductory.

6602
05:53:38,795 --> 05:53:41,195
>> Sanctions to read chapter 3

6603
05:53:42,650 --> 05:53:42,799
future land use element of the

6604
05:53:42,799 --> 05:53:44,934
comprehensive plan is hereby

6605
05:53:44,934 --> 05:53:47,104
amended to remove the following

6606
05:53:47,104 --> 05:53:49,504
issues objectives and policies.

6607
05:53:50,373 --> 05:53:53,543
I would appreciate it. We have

6608
05:53:53,543 --> 05:53:55,543
an amended motion.

6609
05:54:00,150 --> 05:54:00,683
And the second as amended.

6610
05:54:00,683 --> 05:54:02,683
For

6611
05:54:03,954 --> 05:54:04,487
clerk, if you can open the

6612
05:54:04,487 --> 05:54:05,154
machine for voting.

6613
05:54:05,154 --> 05:54:07,554
Council members please enter

6614
05:54:07,757 --> 05:54:09,659
your votes seeing that all

6615
05:54:09,659 --> 05:54:10,393
present

6616
05:54:10,393 --> 05:54:10,994
council members to click police

6617
05:54:10,994 --> 05:54:11,628
telling enough to vote.

6618
05:54:11,628 --> 05:54:12,261
MADAM Chair, the motion to

6619
05:54:12,261 --> 05:54:13,997
approve agenda item j 4 as

6620
05:54:13,997 --> 05:54:15,997
amended passes unanimously.

6621
05:54:17,166 --> 05:54:19,166
Thank you.

6622
05:54:22,939 --> 05:54:24,541
>> We have j 5 this is

6623
05:54:24,541 --> 05:54:26,541
quasi-judicial so

6624
05:54:26,910 --> 05:54:27,811
I am going to be reading from a

6625
05:54:27,811 --> 05:54:28,778
script. Ok so let me do my my

6626
05:54:28,778 --> 05:54:30,546
talking points as I'm supposed

6627
05:54:30,546 --> 05:54:31,214
to so I don't get in trouble

6628
05:54:31,214 --> 05:54:34,417
will now move on to item j 5

6629
05:54:34,417 --> 05:54:35,151
which contains 2 ordinances

6630
05:54:35,151 --> 05:54:37,151
amending the

6631
05:54:37,854 --> 05:54:41,230
zoning and future land use map

6632
05:54:41,230 --> 05:54:41,925
for 3.8 9 acre parcel located

6633
05:54:41,925 --> 05:54:43,260
at 40 50th Avenue South this

6634
05:54:43,260 --> 05:54:45,426
item is quasi-judicial anyone

6635
05:54:45,429 --> 05:54:46,295
wishing to speak on this item

6636
05:54:46,295 --> 05:54:49,232
must fill out a yellow card and

6637
05:54:49,232 --> 05:54:49,933
provided to the city clerk.

6638
05:54:49,933 --> 05:54:51,334
And all speakers must be sworn

6639
05:54:51,334 --> 05:54:52,536
in before presenting testimony.

6640
05:54:52,536 --> 05:54:54,270
The procedure trick was a

6641
05:54:54,270 --> 05:54:55,372
judicial proceedings can be

6642
05:54:55,372 --> 05:54:56,673
found on the yellow sheet

6643
05:54:56,673 --> 05:54:57,674
attached to the printed agendas

6644
05:54:57,674 --> 05:55:00,944
or if you Inc digital leap

6645
05:55:00,944 --> 05:55:01,711
ages, 13 14 of the council

6646
05:55:01,711 --> 05:55:02,345
agenda.

6647
05:55:02,345 --> 05:55:05,345
Clerk please swear in all

6648
05:55:05,515 --> 05:55:07,915
parties and speakers, including

6649
05:55:08,684 --> 05:55:10,684
city staff.

6650
05:55:16,959 --> 05:55:19,896
Work if you can read the

6651
05:55:19,896 --> 05:55:22,599
ordinance titles both of them

6652
05:55:22,599 --> 05:55:22,932
please.

6653
05:55:22,932 --> 05:55:24,932
It's in.

6654
05:55:26,200 --> 05:55:26,669
The proposed ordinance number

6655
05:55:26,669 --> 05:55:27,304
7.65 dash pow

6656
05:55:27,304 --> 05:55:29,704
an ordinance amending the

6657
05:55:29,839 --> 05:55:30,573
future land use map. The

6658
05:55:30,573 --> 05:55:31,241
comprehensive plan for the city

6659
05:55:31,241 --> 05:55:33,843
of St. Petersburg Florida by

6660
05:55:33,843 --> 05:55:36,843
changing the future land use

6661
05:55:36,980 --> 05:55:37,847
that designation free

6662
05:55:37,847 --> 05:55:39,847
3.8.

6663
05:55:41,118 --> 05:55:43,518
Acre parcel located at 3, 0, 1,

6664
05:55:44,253 --> 05:55:46,253
0, 58th Avenue South

6665
05:55:46,556 --> 05:55:48,758
from residential urban. Are

6666
05:55:48,758 --> 05:55:49,359
you to residential medium r m

6667
05:55:49,359 --> 05:55:49,993
providing for repeal of

6668
05:55:49,993 --> 05:55:50,560
conflicting ordinances and

6669
05:55:50,560 --> 05:55:52,560
provisions thereof and

6670
05:55:52,795 --> 05:55:55,195
providing for an effective

6671
05:55:55,832 --> 05:55:57,734
date.

6672
05:55:57,734 --> 05:55:59,469
The post or Dec.

6673
05:55:59,469 --> 05:56:00,170
800 dash zz and orange amending

6674
05:56:00,170 --> 05:56:03,390
the official zoning map of the

6675
05:56:03,390 --> 05:56:06,390
city of St. Petersburg Florida.

6676
05:56:06,476 --> 05:56:09,712
I change in the zoning of a 3.8

6677
05:56:09,712 --> 05:56:12,112
9 acre parcel located at 3, 0,

6678
05:56:13,149 --> 05:56:14,584
1, 0, 58th Avenue South

6679
05:56:14,584 --> 05:56:16,186
neighborhood suburban

6680
05:56:16,186 --> 05:56:19,155
dash one in is dash one.

6681
05:56:19,155 --> 05:56:21,124
2 neighborhood super suburban

6682
05:56:21,124 --> 05:56:23,427
multifamily dash one n s and s

6683
05:56:23,427 --> 05:56:23,993
one providing for repeal of

6684
05:56:23,993 --> 05:56:24,560
conflicting ordinances

6685
05:56:24,560 --> 05:56:26,560
provisions thereof and

6686
05:56:27,164 --> 05:56:28,431
providing for an effective date

6687
05:56:28,431 --> 05:56:29,132
we did not have any cards.

6688
05:56:29,132 --> 05:56:30,333
Thank you we'll now move on to

6689
05:56:30,333 --> 05:56:30,967
presentations each party will

6690
05:56:30,967 --> 05:56:33,367
have 10 minutes for their

6691
05:56:33,837 --> 05:56:36,473
presentation and we will begin

6692
05:56:36,473 --> 05:56:36,906
with the city staff's

6693
05:56:36,906 --> 05:56:37,541
presentation.

6694
05:56:37,541 --> 05:56:38,241
Good evening, MADAM Chair

6695
05:56:38,241 --> 05:56:39,175
fellow councilmembers Britain

6696
05:56:39,175 --> 05:56:41,377
Wilson city planner presenting

6697
05:56:41,377 --> 05:56:44,648
an amendment to the future land

6698
05:56:44,648 --> 05:56:45,281
use map with a concurrent

6699
05:56:45,281 --> 05:56:47,681
rezoning initiated by the

6700
05:56:48,251 --> 05:56:49,352
property owners of maximum

6701
05:56:49,352 --> 05:56:51,554
apartments, which sits on a

6702
05:56:51,554 --> 05:56:53,489
3.8 9 acre site and the purpose

6703
05:56:53,489 --> 05:56:54,391
of the proposed amendments is

6704
05:56:54,391 --> 05:56:55,580
to bring the existing

6705
05:56:55,580 --> 05:56:56,559
development into conformance

6706
05:56:56,559 --> 05:56:59,829
with the assigned land use and

6707
05:56:59,829 --> 05:57:02,229
zoning designations as they're

6708
05:57:02,365 --> 05:57:03,333
currently nonconforming.

6709
05:57:03,333 --> 05:57:06,333
Maximum apartments is a 20 unit

6710
05:57:06,770 --> 05:57:09,170
single Storey development built

6711
05:57:09,805 --> 05:57:11,340
out at 5 units per acre

6712
05:57:11,340 --> 05:57:13,740
that was constructed in 1985

6713
05:57:14,710 --> 05:57:15,612
and sits on the southeast

6714
05:57:15,612 --> 05:57:16,679
corner of

6715
05:57:16,679 --> 05:57:17,346
58th Avenue South and 31th

6716
05:57:17,346 --> 05:57:19,746
Street South. And the

6717
05:57:20,316 --> 05:57:21,500
surrounding uses and starting

6718
05:57:21,500 --> 05:57:24,420
at the top right is the Arbor

6719
05:57:24,420 --> 05:57:25,888
Grove condos which is built out

6720
05:57:25,888 --> 05:57:26,556
at about 9.8 units per acre.

6721
05:57:26,556 --> 05:57:29,893
There is a carve out on the

6722
05:57:29,893 --> 05:57:32,228
north side of maxim apartments

6723
05:57:32,228 --> 05:57:33,960
which sits a single-family

6724
05:57:33,960 --> 05:57:34,297
home. Directly South and east

6725
05:57:34,297 --> 05:57:35,832
or single-family homes and to

6726
05:57:35,832 --> 05:57:38,340
the West across from 34th

6727
05:57:38,340 --> 05:57:38,802
Street South this church

6728
05:57:38,802 --> 05:57:41,202
property and then more

6729
05:57:42,710 --> 05:57:44,471
apartments followed by a

6730
05:57:45,242 --> 05:57:46,900
medical facility.

6731
05:57:46,900 --> 05:57:49,279
This is a future land use map

6732
05:57:49,279 --> 05:57:50,460
showing the subject site is

6733
05:57:50,460 --> 05:57:52,150
designated

6734
05:57:52,150 --> 05:57:53,783
residential urban or are you

6735
05:57:53,783 --> 05:57:54,517
where residential medium or is

6736
05:57:54,517 --> 05:57:57,517
being proposed to be consistent

6737
05:57:57,787 --> 05:57:59,122
with the property to the north

6738
05:57:59,122 --> 05:58:01,122
and Northwest.

6739
05:58:02,392 --> 05:58:03,292
This is the land use map again

6740
05:58:03,292 --> 05:58:04,600
but with the

6741
05:58:04,600 --> 05:58:05,280
coastal high hazard area.

6742
05:58:05,280 --> 05:58:08,280
Rca jj boundary. Shannon Hatch

6743
05:58:08,331 --> 05:58:11,331
that is completely covering the

6744
05:58:11,534 --> 05:58:12,202
subject site.

6745
05:58:12,202 --> 05:58:14,438
This is a zoning map showing

6746
05:58:14,438 --> 05:58:17,438
the subject site is designated

6747
05:58:17,707 --> 05:58:18,175
neighborhoods suburban one ns

6748
05:58:18,175 --> 05:58:19,375
one.

6749
05:58:19,375 --> 05:58:21,775
Which is a single-family

6750
05:58:21,778 --> 05:58:22,412
district where the proposed

6751
05:58:22,412 --> 05:58:24,614
change is to neighborhood

6752
05:58:24,614 --> 05:58:27,140
suburban multifamily or someone

6753
05:58:27,784 --> 05:58:28,451
so as to be in conformance with

6754
05:58:28,451 --> 05:58:29,652
the existing apartments and

6755
05:58:29,652 --> 05:58:33,560
with the zoning. Also Matt and

6756
05:58:33,560 --> 05:58:35,659
be consistent with the property

6757
05:58:35,659 --> 05:58:37,427
to the north and Northwest.

6758
05:58:37,427 --> 05:58:38,528
This slide addresses the change

6759
05:58:38,528 --> 05:58:40,363
and development potential that

6760
05:58:40,363 --> 05:58:41,598
would result from the map

6761
05:58:41,598 --> 05:58:42,466
amendments and the Associated

6762
05:58:42,466 --> 05:58:43,990
restrictive covenant that has

6763
05:58:43,990 --> 05:58:45,968
been proffered due to the

6764
05:58:45,968 --> 05:58:48,380
site's location and the c a t

6765
05:58:48,380 --> 05:58:50,380
j.

6766
05:58:51,307 --> 05:58:51,974
The existing density under the

6767
05:58:51,974 --> 05:58:53,276
ru land use

6768
05:58:53,276 --> 05:58:56,479
is 7 and a half drawing units

6769
05:58:56,479 --> 05:58:57,213
per acre. The propose are in

6770
05:58:57,213 --> 05:58:58,314
land use would allow for 15

6771
05:58:58,314 --> 05:58:59,516
dwelling units per acre.

6772
05:58:59,516 --> 05:59:00,183
But the restrictive covenant

6773
05:59:00,183 --> 05:59:03,183
will lock in the existing

6774
05:59:03,452 --> 05:59:06,756
density of 7 and a half to all

6775
05:59:06,756 --> 05:59:08,158
units per acre.

6776
05:59:08,158 --> 05:59:08,925
So the permitted use unit

6777
05:59:08,925 --> 05:59:09,693
density does not change find

6778
05:59:09,693 --> 05:59:10,192
allowed building form of the

6779
05:59:10,192 --> 05:59:12,192
units changes from

6780
05:59:13,162 --> 05:59:15,162
single-family to multi-family.

6781
05:59:15,831 --> 05:59:16,899
And this

6782
05:59:16,899 --> 05:59:18,899
slide demonstrates that

6783
05:59:20,170 --> 05:59:20,636
currently has built the site

6784
05:59:20,636 --> 05:59:22,171
has 20 existing

6785
05:59:22,171 --> 05:59:23,139
units an additional 9 units

6786
05:59:23,139 --> 05:59:26,139
could be constructed for a

6787
05:59:26,409 --> 05:59:28,611
total of 29, throwing units on

6788
05:59:28,611 --> 05:59:29,913
site.

6789
05:59:29,913 --> 05:59:33,349
As noted in the staff report

6790
05:59:33,349 --> 05:59:33,883
the proposed amendments are

6791
05:59:33,883 --> 05:59:34,550
consistent with many

6792
05:59:34,550 --> 05:59:35,819
policies of a comprehensive

6793
05:59:35,819 --> 05:59:37,253
plan and to highlight these

6794
05:59:37,253 --> 05:59:39,321
few. The proposal furthers

6795
05:59:39,321 --> 05:59:39,923
these policies as it meets ach

6796
05:59:39,923 --> 05:59:41,858
tha requirements of not

6797
05:59:41,858 --> 05:59:42,725
increasing density or intensity

6798
05:59:42,725 --> 05:59:44,725
through the restrictive

6799
05:59:45,562 --> 05:59:46,262
covenant and the proposed

6800
05:59:46,262 --> 05:59:48,632
amendments are consistent with

6801
05:59:48,632 --> 05:59:49,332
the existing site development

6802
05:59:49,332 --> 05:59:49,999
and the surrounding area that

6803
05:59:49,999 --> 05:59:52,835
has multifamily to the north

6804
05:59:52,835 --> 05:59:54,971
and is located on a major

6805
05:59:54,971 --> 05:59:56,606
roadway.

6806
05:59:56,606 --> 05:59:57,507
And with that staff recommends

6807
05:59:57,507 --> 05:59:58,141
a finding of consistency with

6808
05:59:58,141 --> 06:00:00,443
the comprehensive plan and

6809
06:00:00,443 --> 06:00:01,311
approval of the proposed land

6810
06:00:01,311 --> 06:00:03,711
use amendment rezoning with

6811
06:00:04,581 --> 06:00:05,581
restrictive covenant as it

6812
06:00:05,581 --> 06:00:06,583
meets the sea a jj

6813
06:00:06,583 --> 06:00:07,284
policies and is consistent with

6814
06:00:07,284 --> 06:00:07,984
the surrounding neighborhood.

6815
06:00:07,984 --> 06:00:10,384
That concludes my presentation

6816
06:00:10,620 --> 06:00:12,688
an applicant has representation

6817
06:00:12,688 --> 06:00:13,890
as well.

6818
06:00:13,890 --> 06:00:17,159
Thank you. After that you have

6819
06:00:17,159 --> 06:00:19,559
your presentation. Good evening

6820
06:00:20,330 --> 06:00:20,963
good evening.

6821
06:00:20,963 --> 06:00:21,631
But rescue.

6822
06:00:21,631 --> 06:00:22,232
3.60 Central Avenue s p 500

6823
06:00:22,232 --> 06:00:24,701
have been sworn for the

6824
06:00:24,701 --> 06:00:27,670
applicant. Make it real quick.

6825
06:00:27,670 --> 06:00:28,404
Did a great job and stuff

6826
06:00:28,404 --> 06:00:31,374
reports I think we already have

6827
06:00:31,374 --> 06:00:33,810
enough in the record to

6828
06:00:33,810 --> 06:00:34,511
support. Approval.

6829
06:00:34,511 --> 06:00:37,447
But just to tell kind of the a

6830
06:00:37,447 --> 06:00:38,315
little bit more detail. The

6831
06:00:38,315 --> 06:00:41,315
story. They came to me

6832
06:00:41,383 --> 06:00:42,452
because they every time they go

6833
06:00:42,452 --> 06:00:43,419
to reinvest this property to to

6834
06:00:43,419 --> 06:00:44,654
get some financing. The

6835
06:00:44,654 --> 06:00:47,654
nonconforming use flags it gets

6836
06:00:47,691 --> 06:00:49,250
flagged so when it's going

6837
06:00:49,250 --> 06:00:51,425
through underwriting it affects

6838
06:00:52,295 --> 06:00:54,640
its core. So we're actually

6839
06:00:54,640 --> 06:00:54,798
here in

6840
06:00:54,798 --> 06:00:55,532
in DECEMBER.

6841
06:00:55,532 --> 06:00:57,000
Last year to vacate that little

6842
06:00:57,000 --> 06:00:59,735
vestige of a right away so that

6843
06:00:59,735 --> 06:01:01,704
was kind of the first step in

6844
06:01:01,704 --> 06:01:02,372
all this and this is the

6845
06:01:02,372 --> 06:01:03,239
rezoning following it that's

6846
06:01:03,239 --> 06:01:06,239
that little vested right where

6847
06:01:06,509 --> 06:01:09,509
that we. The kid Dec., 20, 25.

6848
06:01:10,980 --> 06:01:13,316
This is a survey of the

6849
06:01:13,316 --> 06:01:15,385
property shown the 20 units.

6850
06:01:15,385 --> 06:01:17,353
This is the 95 plat the condo

6851
06:01:17,353 --> 06:01:20,190
place you can see the East side

6852
06:01:20,190 --> 06:01:21,725
of the property. They never

6853
06:01:21,725 --> 06:01:22,826
finished it. There were 7 units

6854
06:01:22,826 --> 06:01:23,493
that were in the condo

6855
06:01:23,493 --> 06:01:25,493
declaration presumably site

6856
06:01:26,228 --> 06:01:27,730
plan and just never

6857
06:01:27,730 --> 06:01:28,832
constructed.

6858
06:01:28,832 --> 06:01:31,832
This exist this rezoning to

6859
06:01:32,101 --> 06:01:33,102
open up the allowable use will

6860
06:01:33,102 --> 06:01:33,836
allow them

6861
06:01:33,836 --> 06:01:35,405
to add 9 units to this property

6862
06:01:35,405 --> 06:01:38,341
either they could build out the

6863
06:01:38,341 --> 06:01:39,341
way it was they could redevelop

6864
06:01:39,341 --> 06:01:41,610
it. But the wind. The main

6865
06:01:41,610 --> 06:01:44,881
thing here was just to clean up

6866
06:01:44,881 --> 06:01:45,448
the nonconforming use and we

6867
06:01:45,448 --> 06:01:46,349
are

6868
06:01:46,349 --> 06:01:47,160
because it's in the c a t j we

6869
06:01:47,160 --> 06:01:48,840
are including a development

6870
06:01:48,840 --> 06:01:50,484
agreement with the restriction

6871
06:01:51,254 --> 06:01:54,254
on density intensity so that

6872
06:01:54,657 --> 06:01:55,858
doesn't change. And you've

6873
06:01:55,858 --> 06:01:58,258
already seen these maps.

6874
06:01:59,950 --> 06:02:00,430
And the traffic consideration

6875
06:02:00,430 --> 06:02:01,531
from the the

6876
06:02:01,531 --> 06:02:03,299
staff report showing that

6877
06:02:03,299 --> 06:02:05,699
minimal additional trips for

6878
06:02:06,569 --> 06:02:08,569
those 9 additional dwelling

6879
06:02:09,605 --> 06:02:11,605
units so

6880
06:02:12,542 --> 06:02:13,243
it's a thanks. Thank you.

6881
06:02:13,243 --> 06:02:15,611
Is there registered opponent.

6882
06:02:15,611 --> 06:02:16,846
I don't see any. That

6883
06:02:16,846 --> 06:02:17,513
registered opponent okay.

6884
06:02:17,513 --> 06:02:20,417
Is there any public comment.

6885
06:02:20,417 --> 06:02:22,840
No public comes you have no

6886
06:02:22,840 --> 06:02:22,718
public comment.

6887
06:02:22,718 --> 06:02:25,118
This concludes our public

6888
06:02:25,755 --> 06:02:28,124
comment section of the evening

6889
06:02:28,124 --> 06:02:28,657
on this item.

6890
06:02:28,657 --> 06:02:30,960
Now we'll move on to

6891
06:02:30,960 --> 06:02:31,660
cross-examination each party

6892
06:02:31,660 --> 06:02:32,328
will have 5 minutes for cross

6893
06:02:32,328 --> 06:02:34,728
examination staff would you

6894
06:02:34,898 --> 06:02:37,898
like to cross examine. Athletes

6895
06:02:38,330 --> 06:02:40,330
think you.

6896
06:02:41,300 --> 06:02:42,338
Now we move on to closing

6897
06:02:42,338 --> 06:02:43,639
arguments or rebuttal. You have

6898
06:02:43,639 --> 06:02:46,639
each 5 minutes to provide a

6899
06:02:47,430 --> 06:02:49,443
closing argument, a rebuttal.

6900
06:02:50,313 --> 06:02:52,615
Staff. Stephens, it lives,

6901
06:02:52,615 --> 06:02:54,684
okay. Well thank you very much

6902
06:02:54,684 --> 06:02:57,840
this quasi judicial proceeding

6903
06:02:57,987 --> 06:02:58,654
is now closed and we will move

6904
06:02:58,654 --> 06:03:01,524
on into executive session to

6905
06:03:01,524 --> 06:03:03,260
approve a 5 to have a motion

6906
06:03:03,260 --> 06:03:03,626
and the second clerk if you

6907
06:03:03,626 --> 06:03:03,960
can open the machine for

6908
06:03:03,960 --> 06:03:04,660
voting.

6909
06:03:04,660 --> 06:03:06,829
For day and beer just yet for

6910
06:03:06,829 --> 06:03:10,100
I'm sorry day 5 a and b doing

6911
06:03:10,100 --> 06:03:13,269
together. Yes, we can. For j 5

6912
06:03:13,269 --> 06:03:15,269
and the second.

6913
06:03:25,982 --> 06:03:27,416
In that upper think members a

6914
06:03:27,416 --> 06:03:28,840
vote a clerk

6915
06:03:28,840 --> 06:03:28,384
please know we announce the

6916
06:03:28,384 --> 06:03:29,180
vote.

6917
06:03:29,180 --> 06:03:31,454
MADAM Chair, the motion to

6918
06:03:31,454 --> 06:03:34,724
approve agenda items j 5 a and

6919
06:03:34,724 --> 06:03:37,124
j 5 be passes unanimously.

6920
06:03:42,265 --> 06:03:45,265
>> Thank you for waiting so

6921
06:03:46,669 --> 06:03:47,370
>> Next up we have open

6922
06:03:47,370 --> 06:03:50,273
clerk do we have any speakers

6923
06:03:50,273 --> 06:03:51,474
for open forum and share with

6924
06:03:51,474 --> 06:03:53,109
you now. And we

6925
06:03:53,109 --> 06:03:53,976
then we close open forum we go

6926
06:03:53,976 --> 06:03:56,976
to announcements and now it's

6927
06:03:57,247 --> 06:03:59,647
months council member driskell

6928
06:04:02,418 --> 06:04:03,153
thank you.

6929
06:04:03,153 --> 06:04:03,753
As you had shared with everyone

6930
06:04:03,753 --> 06:04:04,420
earlier MADAM Chair. We

6931
06:04:04,420 --> 06:04:06,820
unfortunately learned of the

6932
06:04:07,190 --> 06:04:09,625
passing a bill that of Edwards.

6933
06:04:09,625 --> 06:04:11,493
Earlier today and

6934
06:04:11,493 --> 06:04:14,897
I known bill for a long time I

6935
06:04:14,897 --> 06:04:17,634
was I was heartbroken by this

6936
06:04:17,634 --> 06:04:18,934
news. Over the years I.

6937
06:04:18,934 --> 06:04:22,205
Watch an id and mired a great

6938
06:04:22,205 --> 06:04:25,205
businessman and a great lover

6939
06:04:25,508 --> 06:04:27,100
of our city has he

6940
06:04:27,100 --> 06:04:29,100
did everything from

6941
06:04:30,279 --> 06:04:31,414
pay a beautiful markers up to

6942
06:04:31,414 --> 06:04:32,282
welcome

6943
06:04:32,282 --> 06:04:32,949
people to St. Petersburg to

6944
06:04:32,949 --> 06:04:35,818
buying the rowdies and I'll

6945
06:04:35,818 --> 06:04:36,885
never forget these are the

6946
06:04:36,885 --> 06:04:37,587
first time ever saw

6947
06:04:37,587 --> 06:04:38,621
soccer game was when he owned

6948
06:04:38,621 --> 06:04:42,250
the team. That's the kind of

6949
06:04:42,250 --> 06:04:45,428
person he was he remade sundial

6950
06:04:45,428 --> 06:04:48,428
and and really helped us

6951
06:04:48,698 --> 06:04:50,698
help the city.

6952
06:04:50,800 --> 06:04:51,500
2 I raise the

6953
06:04:51,500 --> 06:04:53,702
standards at the Mahaffey at a

6954
06:04:53,702 --> 06:04:55,671
time when it really needed it.

6955
06:04:55,671 --> 06:04:56,372
I certainly didn't agree with

6956
06:04:56,372 --> 06:04:58,841
Bill on everything and we did

6957
06:04:58,841 --> 06:05:00,610
you have occasion to lock

6958
06:05:00,610 --> 06:05:02,245
horns. But I always respected

6959
06:05:02,245 --> 06:05:05,515
him and my prayers today are

6960
06:05:05,515 --> 06:05:08,818
with his family and his loved

6961
06:05:08,818 --> 06:05:11,218
ones and as they

6962
06:05:11,420 --> 06:05:14,420
mourn and you know reflect

6963
06:05:14,690 --> 06:05:15,391
and I hope we all do. Some

6964
06:05:15,391 --> 06:05:18,391
reflection on someone who was

6965
06:05:18,427 --> 06:05:20,827
passionate passionate about St.

6966
06:05:21,664 --> 06:05:23,664
Petersburg.

6967
06:05:24,234 --> 06:05:25,100
And.

6968
06:05:25,100 --> 06:05:28,271
I would love for us to just

6969
06:05:28,271 --> 06:05:31,407
have a moment of silence to

6970
06:05:31,407 --> 06:05:33,407
remember him.

6971
06:05:44,200 --> 06:05:44,587
That's member Curtis.

6972
06:05:44,587 --> 06:05:45,255
Thank you MADAM Chair

6973
06:05:45,255 --> 06:05:47,255
councilmember driskell thank

6974
06:05:47,423 --> 06:05:50,827
you for your very nice words.

6975
06:05:50,827 --> 06:05:53,290
I was certainly saddened to

6976
06:05:53,290 --> 06:05:53,730
hear of the loss of bills so.

6977
06:05:53,730 --> 06:05:54,464
>> Just quickly I want to just

6978
06:05:54,464 --> 06:05:56,699
publicly thank I got to spend a

6979
06:05:56,699 --> 06:05:59,335
little bit of time early this

6980
06:05:59,335 --> 06:06:01,737
morning as they were mustering

6981
06:06:01,737 --> 06:06:04,137
the storm water. Pavement

6982
06:06:05,800 --> 06:06:05,842
knocks crew. That just go out

6983
06:06:05,842 --> 06:06:07,977
on a daily basis and just

6984
06:06:07,977 --> 06:06:09,780
bus their chops and specially

6985
06:06:09,780 --> 06:06:11,448
you know days of a 109 he and

6986
06:06:11,448 --> 06:06:14,448
then 4 hours late later, it's 4

6987
06:06:14,717 --> 06:06:17,520
inches of rain and so and I you

6988
06:06:17,520 --> 06:06:18,187
know I was in this room and

6989
06:06:18,187 --> 06:06:21,570
you know it's probably a 100

6990
06:06:21,570 --> 06:06:23,920
people or so and you know

6991
06:06:23,920 --> 06:06:23,792
they're all

6992
06:06:23,792 --> 06:06:26,629
wearing their bright green You

6993
06:06:26,629 --> 06:06:29,431
know protective gear, but also

6994
06:06:29,431 --> 06:06:30,660
that's kind of the colors and

6995
06:06:30,660 --> 06:06:32,801
you realize that they are

6996
06:06:32,801 --> 06:06:36,720
probably some of the most seen

6997
06:06:36,720 --> 06:06:36,873
people across the city because

6998
06:06:36,873 --> 06:06:37,840
frankly they're

6999
06:06:37,840 --> 06:06:40,430
just bright and that they're

7000
06:06:40,430 --> 06:06:41,100
hard to MISS And so I just the

7001
06:06:41,100 --> 06:06:41,777
work that they do I'm just so

7002
06:06:41,777 --> 06:06:42,544
thankful and I just wanted to

7003
06:06:42,544 --> 06:06:45,815
say out loud one more time just

7004
06:06:45,815 --> 06:06:46,382
thankful for all that we're all

7005
06:06:46,382 --> 06:06:47,820
of our employees but

7006
06:06:47,820 --> 06:06:47,783
I got to spend a little bit of

7007
06:06:47,783 --> 06:06:48,484
time with them and it was very

7008
06:06:48,484 --> 06:06:51,540
nice and very appreciative for

7009
06:06:51,540 --> 06:06:52,188
everything they do on a daily

7010
06:06:52,188 --> 06:06:53,256
basis.

7011
06:06:53,256 --> 06:06:56,125
Last a lot last but not least

7012
06:06:56,125 --> 06:06:57,193
we have a couple of birthdays

7013
06:06:57,193 --> 06:07:00,193
it was the mayor's birthday

7014
06:07:00,597 --> 06:07:03,233
last week. It was read his

7015
06:07:03,233 --> 06:07:03,832
birthday last week I

7016
06:07:03,832 --> 06:07:04,867
believe and that's Rob's

7017
06:07:04,867 --> 06:07:06,680
birthday next week. So you

7018
06:07:06,680 --> 06:07:09,339
don't get out of it Rob and so

7019
06:07:09,339 --> 06:07:12,508
will sing happy birthday to the

7020
06:07:12,508 --> 06:07:14,811
mayor Rita and Rob.

7021
06:07:14,811 --> 06:07:16,811
Have you heard.

7022
06:07:19,749 --> 06:07:20,416
To you have you heard to you.

7023
06:07:20,416 --> 06:07:23,285
Birthday mayor Reed arraf I

7024
06:07:23,285 --> 06:07:24,787
heard Kate to thank you very

7025
06:07:24,787 --> 06:07:25,388
much,

7026
06:07:25,388 --> 06:07:27,190
MADAM Chair, thank you.

7027
06:07:27,190 --> 06:07:30,459
And thank you for letting us

7028
06:07:30,459 --> 06:07:32,280
know about Bill Edwards earlier

7029
06:07:32,280 --> 06:07:32,361
as council member driskell

7030
06:07:32,361 --> 06:07:33,863
mention.

7031
06:07:33,863 --> 06:07:37,132
First of all bill was bigger

7032
06:07:37,132 --> 06:07:40,270
than life and be we all dealt

7033
06:07:40,270 --> 06:07:42,270
with Bill

7034
06:07:42,272 --> 06:07:42,738
one way or the other whether we

7035
06:07:42,738 --> 06:07:43,439
like it or not.

7036
06:07:43,439 --> 06:07:45,575
And locking horns is probably

7037
06:07:45,575 --> 06:07:46,743
putting it mildly sometimes.

7038
06:07:46,743 --> 06:07:47,443
But he was

7039
06:07:47,443 --> 06:07:49,279
a sponsor Porter of the city.

7040
06:07:49,279 --> 06:07:52,448
And of the arson of our

7041
06:07:52,448 --> 06:07:54,848
community and he gave

7042
06:07:55,585 --> 06:07:57,860
everything he had.

7043
06:07:57,860 --> 06:07:57,820
>> For the love of the city if

7044
06:07:57,820 --> 06:07:58,521
he couldn't. I think no matter.

7045
06:07:58,521 --> 06:07:59,154
Whether we agreed or disagreed

7046
06:07:59,154 --> 06:08:01,457
I don't think anyone here

7047
06:08:01,457 --> 06:08:02,891
question how much he loved this

7048
06:08:02,891 --> 06:08:04,891
city.

7049
06:08:05,227 --> 06:08:05,894
>> And he would make some of

7050
06:08:05,894 --> 06:08:06,595
the you know some of the

7051
06:08:06,595 --> 06:08:08,995
decisions in and negotiations

7052
06:08:09,465 --> 06:08:12,334
difficult for whoever was in

7053
06:08:12,334 --> 06:08:14,334
the room,

7054
06:08:15,604 --> 06:08:17,172
And I'm sure and I'm I'm sure

7055
06:08:17,172 --> 06:08:17,707
the attorneys can

7056
06:08:17,707 --> 06:08:18,574
appreciate that but.

7057
06:08:18,574 --> 06:08:21,844
But you know that was how bill

7058
06:08:21,844 --> 06:08:23,313
was and he you know he fought

7059
06:08:23,313 --> 06:08:24,130
tooth and nail for

7060
06:08:24,130 --> 06:08:25,470
what he believed then and that

7061
06:08:25,470 --> 06:08:25,748
was does his personality so he

7062
06:08:25,748 --> 06:08:28,618
will be greatly missed and our

7063
06:08:28,618 --> 06:08:30,530
condolences go to his family in

7064
06:08:30,530 --> 06:08:31,154
France.

7065
06:08:31,154 --> 06:08:33,255
So thank you all for the good

7066
06:08:33,255 --> 06:08:34,656
work today, it's been a very

7067
06:08:34,656 --> 06:08:35,757
long day there's very tired

7068
06:08:35,757 --> 06:08:37,000
faces in this room, so I am