1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:07,680 is the 24th meeting of the 146th Council of the Corporation of the City of St. 2 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:12,639 Thomas and I'm hoping everybody's already enjoying a great start to summer 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:18,880 and uh we will start off with there any disclosures of interest from any of the 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:22,080 members. Seeing none minutes. >> Thank you your worship. First item that 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:27,840 the minutes of the meeting held on June 15, 2026 be confirmed. Moved by 6 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:31,840 councelor Riml, seconded by councelor Gibson. questions or comments on the 7 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:35,120 minutes? Seeing none, all those in favor? Are there any opposed? That's 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,760 carried. >> Thank you, worship. Council will now 9 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:40,719 resolve itself into the committee of the whole to deal with matters from four 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:44,719 committees tonight. First one is strategic direction and development. 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,000 First item under new business, an item relating to housing accelerator fund 12 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:52,879 affordable housing grant program recommended recipients. Motion that 13 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:56,320 reads that report CMO 5226 relating to housing accelerator fund affordable 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:01:01,120 housing grant program recommended recipients be received for information 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:04,879 and further that the 2026 housing accelerator fund affordable housing 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:12,400 grants be provided to recipients as follows. One w YWCA St. Thomas Elgen in 17 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:18,799 the amount of $25,000 stream one, $350,000 stream two and $350,000 18 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:23,360 new funding towards the construction of 40 new affordable units and support 19 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:28,320 services aimed primarily at lowincome seniors. Number two, Eastwood Housing 20 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:33,040 Corporation in the amount of $25,000 stream one and $50,000 stream two 21 00:01:31,439 --> 00:01:37,680 towards the construction of two new affordable units through renovation. 22 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:41,040 Number three, the trustees of the central congregation of the United 23 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:47,280 Church of Canada in the amount of $25,000 stream one towards pre-conult uh 24 00:01:45,119 --> 00:01:52,479 pre-construction costs for preliminary work on proposals for 35 potential new 25 00:01:50,240 --> 00:02:00,240 affordable units and further that the YWCA St. Thomas Elgen receive an 26 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:06,240 additional allocation of 1,975,000 from the housing accelerator fund over 27 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:10,239 2026 through 2028 as a part of the municipal contribution via federal 28 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:14,560 funding towards the Hayawa affordable homes project subject to an agreement 29 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:18,640 and further that council direct that bylaws be prepared to enter into 30 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:22,560 municipal contribution agreements for each of the housing accelerator fund and 31 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:26,160 affordable housing grant recipients. Moved by councelor Baldwin Sans, 32 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:30,160 seconded by councel Clark. >> Questions or comments? Councelor Baldwin 33 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:34,400 Sans, then councelor Herbert. >> I am pleased to support this initiative. 34 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:39,040 Number one, it strengthens the relationship we've already have with the 35 00:02:36,239 --> 00:02:43,280 YW.CA CA and with Eastwood Baptist and I'm glad to see that that continue but 36 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:48,000 to see someone new coming to the table with Central United and being able to 37 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:54,080 provide that that was something that we discussed at AMO last year how we can 38 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:58,160 expand that program and also that we have been seeing especially through our 39 00:02:56,239 --> 00:03:01,840 child care program with expanding that through the churches as well with First 40 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,720 United Church and the new program that we've created there. I was wondering if 41 00:03:03,599 --> 00:03:08,480 you would like to make some comments your worship in regards to the new 42 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:11,120 partnership that we're creating with central. 43 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:16,159 » I mean I have can do nothing but shout like you did that the um we said a while 44 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:19,200 ago and I think really on our trip to AMO last year or some place that we 45 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,040 talked about maybe we need to involve some more of the churches. There's 46 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:27,440 available land for us and look at what's coming to fruition if we can use the um 47 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:32,319 the accelerated fund to to make it happen. Um, we continue to move forward 48 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:37,280 on now not just supportive housing, but also affordable housing and affordable 49 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:42,879 seniors housing. So, um, I'm I'm going to vote surely in favor of all of this. 50 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:47,920 Council Herbert, thank you, Worship. So, Brandon, that that's a great report that 51 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:52,560 you sent to us. Uh, when I read it, I'm thinking, my goodness, Lindy Rice should 52 00:03:50,239 --> 00:03:57,840 be so excited to get the money that she's getting in High Water Street is 53 00:03:54,400 --> 00:04:04,239 getting the extra $2 million. Uh I don't know how uh Eastwood we'd really be 54 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:09,120 excited to and I I I fully support the the bylaws for this to be done because 55 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:13,439 uh it's a step in the right direction. I mean Lindsay's group and her and her and 56 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:19,280 her team just got done with tiny homes. I mean how how good is that? Tiny homes 57 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:22,639 over there a few times. Unbelievable. And it looks like Haywatha Street's 58 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:28,160 going to be the same way. So thank goodness to the the YWCA to get on board 59 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:32,639 with all this. So, I I I fully support the uh the doing the bylaws and thanks 60 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:36,960 very much for your report. >> Thank you, Councelor Kohler. 61 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:41,759 » Thanks, your worship. I certainly will be supporting this too. I uh you know 62 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:45,120 what's made us successful in the past and continue to make successful is these 63 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:49,360 partnerships that we continue to enter. And this is a well-rounded way to 64 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:54,000 continue to expand our housing stock and diversify it. And so excited to see the 65 00:04:51,840 --> 00:04:57,759 component with the uh low-income seniors as well. and that's uh how we need to 66 00:04:55,919 --> 00:05:00,560 continue to move forward. But just great news. 67 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,440 » Councilor Raml, did I see a hand from you? Yes, you're next. And then 68 00:05:01,919 --> 00:05:07,840 councelor Clark, >> um I have some questions. Mainly it's 69 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:15,840 fully supportive. It's it's wonderful. Uh mainly so it said that this program 70 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:21,199 um was new more in uh October 2025 and we had a program similar did we in 71 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:24,320 before this? >> Brandon, did you want to answer that? 72 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:27,360 We've had a number of programs that have all been either federal or provincial in 73 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:32,479 this one. >> Yeah. Through your worship. So this was 74 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:37,680 created as one of our HIF action plan initiatives that we had to do last year. 75 00:05:35,199 --> 00:05:42,560 And so we created the overall program framework and then we were launching it 76 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:46,400 this year once we received our HAF funding and the intent is to do it for 77 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,840 three years. So we've kind of have a commitment for the next three years to 78 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:55,840 do this program. So this is the first year for it. just have a couple 79 00:05:52,400 --> 00:06:00,560 questions. So, um, so what I think is great with this program is there's no 80 00:05:57,759 --> 00:06:06,479 tax, no municipal tax dollars involved. This is straight, uh, federal funding 81 00:06:05,039 --> 00:06:10,000 » through your worship. That's correct. That's where we're leveraging and using 82 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:14,800 that and that helps us with our contribution without having to use 83 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:21,680 municipal tax uh, amount. And um so when the houses are we have 20 84 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:26,319 20 years where we have the affordable beds do you have to monitor that like to 85 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:29,520 keep on top of that or you know you don't want things to be too ownorous as 86 00:06:27,919 --> 00:06:34,400 far as because you have to monitor timelines for the project and thing and 87 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:38,400 but what happens to the beds after 20 years 88 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:41,840 » through your worship that is a good question. So that is one of the 89 00:06:39,759 --> 00:06:47,280 requirements of this program is not only to be affordable but at 80% or below for 90 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:50,639 average market rent. Each grant recipient would have to enter into an 91 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:54,960 agreement and so that there would be stipulations and clauses within the 92 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:58,639 agreement and there would be generally there's annual reporting so that we know 93 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:04,960 that that is still the case throughout that time period. uh most of the 94 00:07:02,479 --> 00:07:10,400 particularly these recipients most of these ones uh look to beyond that time 95 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:15,680 frame. So we know for example Eastwood housing is continued beyond that time 96 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:19,280 frame. Uh that's kind of our minimum requirement is to get there. So after 97 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,639 that I guess at the end of the 20 years we would be looking at it and seeing if 98 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,520 it can continue. >> Couple more. 99 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:30,560 » Okay. You let me know when you're done. >> Okay. So what if what if a project 100 00:07:27,919 --> 00:07:35,280 becomes over budget during the construction um and it it exceeds the 101 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:39,680 amount of funds that we have? Is that our concern 102 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:44,880 » through your worship? So that's another good question. So we do have uh template 103 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:48,400 agreements for these and that there are some clauses within the agreement and 104 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:52,400 and those agreements will come to council uh probably in August for the 105 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:57,680 bylaw. So you can look at them at that point for sure. But there would be some 106 00:07:54,720 --> 00:08:02,720 clauses about the construction costs and anything if anything escalates it would 107 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:07,840 not have an impact or be anything on this municipal contribution. 108 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:13,520 If the project in the end does not happen then this amount would then come 109 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:17,680 back to us. What we're setting up in the agreements are different milestones for 110 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:23,360 when the funds would be released. So once the project is committed hopefully 111 00:08:20,479 --> 00:08:26,879 on on budget, once there's building permits, once there's some completion of 112 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:30,240 some of it, that's when we would start to release some of the funding. There 113 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,680 would be a little bit upfront, especially for the pre-construction ones 114 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:37,039 where they need some design work money, but there would be some safeties in 115 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:43,279 agreement for that. >> And do we have a policy or procedure uh 116 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:47,519 in place for uh requests that come outside of the affordable housing? 117 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:52,160 someone has a project they want and they're looking for city funds. Do we 118 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:56,240 have a policy or procedure for those kind of applications? 119 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:59,920 » Well, certainly we have our own community improvement fund money and 120 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:05,360 we'll vote on a few more of those tonight, too. And that's where for that 121 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:11,040 builder who's maybe not doing a deeply affordable piece, but is simply creating 122 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:16,000 new beds, creating new rooms, um, and andor fixing fascia or some other 123 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:20,640 things. Our community improvement uh committee has been quite busy at keeping 124 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:24,480 all of these things up to date and and making sure we can honor all of the 125 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,920 requests that have come to us. It's July and we've already spent a great deal of 126 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:32,399 community improvement fund this year. So, but that's that's the municipal 127 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:35,920 contribution that that this council really gets to decide on. 128 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:42,399 » Just one more. >> Do any of these units become uh city 129 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:46,560 stock and part of our stock >> through your worship? uh these units 130 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:52,080 would not be part of the directly citymanaged social housing stock. So 131 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:56,959 they would be managed and operated by these non-forprofit uh partners 132 00:09:54,399 --> 00:10:00,480 organizations. So then there's essentially there wouldn't be 133 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:05,560 necessarily the direct obligation for the municipality to then maintain or 134 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,560 operate them. 135 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:12,800 » Really Joan, you're finished for now there. This was just the first 136 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:16,480 topic item for tonight. So, we're okay. Councelor Clark, you're next. 137 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:21,760 » Thanks, your worship. I've just got one comment. Um, they're all worthy 138 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:27,519 projects, but I'm especially excited about the Hayawa Street project because 139 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:33,920 most of the uh the project is built on surplus city land. It's in the core and 140 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:39,040 it's uh affordable senior housing and uh with no real tax implications for the 141 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:42,640 city. So, I think it's they're all great, but that's one uh I think really 142 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:46,640 stands out for me. >> Thank you, Council Clark. Further 143 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:49,839 questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? Are 144 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:53,760 there any opposed? That's carried. Thanks. 145 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:57,920 » Thank you, worship. Next item relates to proposed official plan and zoning bylaw 146 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:02,640 amendments and deeming bylaw application for 358 Elm Street, for Morrison Drive. 147 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:07,040 Follow-up report. Motion that reads that report PD 4026 relating to proposed 148 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:10,880 official plan and zoning bylaw amendments and deeming bylaw application 149 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:14,959 follow-up report be received for information and further that council 150 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:19,200 authorize staff to prepare a sight specific sight sight specific draft 151 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:24,240 amendments to the city of St. Thomas official plan and zoning bylaw 5088 to 152 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:29,120 permit clinic and business office uses at 358 Elm Street and 4 Morrison Drive 153 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:38,800 which can be described as part one on registered plan 11R 448 and part lot 73 154 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:43,680 plan 270 and lot 10 plan 11M138 and further that council authorize staff 155 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:48,959 to prepare a deeming bylaw for lot 10 plan 11M138 156 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:51,760 being for Morrison Drive moved I councelor Gibson, seconded by councelor 157 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,920 Taylor. >> Questions or comments? 158 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:59,920 Councelor Herbert. >> Thank you, Worship. Well, they're pretty 159 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:05,920 specific on what they want their application for. And uh just to clarify, 160 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:11,839 it says to to permit a clinic, business office, single detached dwelling. But 161 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:16,000 what is accessory uses? What would that what does that come under? could be 162 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:19,760 anything because you're you're specific on the on the what the what it's the 163 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:23,839 bylaw is going to be what the permits for. I just curious what could accessory 164 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:27,040 uses be. >> So so 165 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,519 sorry. So >> go ahead. 166 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:33,760 » Been a couple weeks. Um so through your worship um accessory uses would need to 167 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:39,839 meet our definition of accessory in the zoning bylaw which are generally um uh 168 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:44,720 uh assoc affiliate like um subordinate to and serve the purposes of the primary 169 00:12:41,839 --> 00:12:50,480 uses that are on the site. So often times I know for example um we'll often 170 00:12:48,079 --> 00:12:52,959 see accessory uses um if you have a clinic would be a pharmacy but that 171 00:12:51,839 --> 00:12:56,959 pharmacy would have to have the same operating hours and only be accessed 172 00:12:55,279 --> 00:13:00,000 directly through the clinic. So that's the sort of thing that we see in terms 173 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:05,680 of accessory uses. So it would have to be tied to those primary uses. 174 00:13:03,839 --> 00:13:10,240 » Just to follow up to where Sure. So you're saying Michelle that if you you 175 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:14,800 could put anything in there or just specific to medical or things like that. 176 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:20,079 Is that what you're looking at here? >> Uh so through your worship it would be 177 00:13:16,959 --> 00:13:24,639 um it would be uses that are they would have to be accessory to those identified 178 00:13:22,399 --> 00:13:28,639 uses. Um, so they'd have to be uh sort of subordinate to those uses. And um I 179 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:32,639 would also note that in our zoning bylaw in pretty much all the almost all the 180 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,839 zones, it does allow for accessory uses in these instances. So yes, perfect. No 181 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:40,000 problem. >> Further questions or comments? 182 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:44,240 Seeing none, all those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 183 00:13:42,399 --> 00:13:50,560 » Worship. Next item relates to community improvement plan project Michelle and 184 00:13:46,959 --> 00:13:55,680 Carol Sylvester 35shire Avenue. Motion that reads that report PD 4326 relating 185 00:13:53,839 --> 00:14:00,079 to a community improvement project by Michelle and Carol Sylvester 35 186 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:03,760 Airshshire Avenue a Avenue be received for information and further that council 187 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:08,800 approve a residential grant and a planning and building fees grant for 188 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:13,600 application 2026-163 as submitted by Michelle and Carol 189 00:14:10,399 --> 00:14:16,720 Sylvester for 35 Airshshire Avenue moved by councelor Herbert seconded by 190 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:20,880 councelor Riml >> questions or comments 191 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:25,760 seeing none all Those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 192 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:30,720 » Worship. The next item deals with a uh community improvement plan project for 193 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:35,360 Holy Angels Parish, 502 Talbet Street. Motion that reads that report PD4226 194 00:14:33,839 --> 00:14:40,240 relating to a community improvement project by Holy Angels's Parish for 502 195 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:44,240 Talbet Street be received for information. and further that council 196 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:48,880 approve a heritage design grant and a heritage facade and building improvement 197 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:53,120 grant for the church located at 502 Talbet Street as recommended by the 198 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:56,880 community improvement program evaluation committee and further that council 199 00:14:54,880 --> 00:15:01,199 approve an additional heritage facade and building improvement grant for the 200 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:05,760 rectory building also located at 502 Talbet Street moved by councelor Kohler 201 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:10,000 seconded by councelor Gibson >> questions or comments 202 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:14,000 seeing none all those in favor any opposed carry 203 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:19,600 Next item deals with a community improvement plan project YW.CA St. 204 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:24,800 Thomas Elgen 51 to 53 Hayawata Street and 105 Scott Street. Motion that reads 205 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:31,600 that report PD 4426 relating to a community improvement project by YW.CA 206 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:36,560 St. Thomas Elegen for 51 to 53 Hayawa Street and 105 Scott Street be received 207 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:40,240 for information and further that council approve a residential grant and a 208 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:46,320 planning and building fees grant for application 2026-16 209 00:15:43,199 --> 00:15:52,800 as submitted by the YWCA St. Thomas Elegen for 51 to 53 Hayawatha Street and 210 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:55,680 105 Scott Street. Moved by councelor Baldwin Sands, seconded by councelor 211 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:59,920 Clark. >> Questions or comments? 212 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:03,519 Seeing none. All those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 213 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:08,279 » Worship. The next item is a community improvement plan project for 100095949 214 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:15,759 Ontario Incorporated, 242 Elma Street. Motion that reads the report PD4126 215 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:20,279 relating to a community improvement project by 100095949 216 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:27,120 Ontario, Inc. for 242 Alma Street be received for information. And further 217 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:31,839 that council approve a residential grant and loan development charge grant, tax 218 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:36,880 increment grant, parkland dedication grant, and planning and building fees 219 00:16:34,079 --> 00:16:44,040 grant for application 2026-162 220 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:44,040 as submitted by 10009-5949 221 00:16:44,079 --> 00:16:51,040 Interior Incorporated for 242 Elma Street. and further that council 222 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:56,720 authorize a bylaw be prepared to enter into a residential loan agreement with 223 00:16:53,920 --> 00:17:02,639 1000905949 Ontario Inc. relating to a CIP project 224 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:07,439 at 242 Elma Street. Moved by Councelor Gibson, seconded by Councelor Herbert. 225 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:11,039 » Questions or comments? Councelor Taylor. >> Thank you, your worship. Just one quick 226 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:14,240 question. This lot um has a lovely little red brick house on it right now. 227 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:18,720 I just wanted to confirm that the red brick house is being removed and a new 228 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:23,439 building constructed. Just a question. Thank you. 229 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:25,679 » Great. Michelle, is it you? >> I can through your wish. I can try to 230 00:17:25,039 --> 00:17:28,319 answer that. No. >> Sure. Our guest speaker, Mr. Pompilly. 231 00:17:27,679 --> 00:17:32,400 Yes. >> Um through the report and my 232 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:39,280 understanding it is for a new um a new fourunit building on the place. 233 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:43,600 » Further questions or comments? Seeing none. All those in favor? Any opposed? 234 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:50,400 Carried. Next item relates to heritage property 235 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:56,160 tax relief. That report PD uh 3926 relating to heritage property tax relief 236 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:59,039 be received for information. Moved by councelor Riml, seconded by councelor 237 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:03,840 clerk, >> questions or comments? 238 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:08,160 Seeing none. All those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 239 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:12,480 » Next item as a notice committee of adjustment minor variance 85 Benjamin 240 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:16,880 Parkway. Notice of a public meeting to take place by Zoom on July 23rd, 2026 at 241 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:20,720 10 a.m. has been received from the committee of adjustment regarding an 242 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:25,440 application for a minor variance by Ed and Donna Ellis to permit lot coverage 243 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:32,320 of 37.4% whereas the maximum is 35% and to permit 244 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:37,600 a threeseason sun room 5.76 m from the rear lot line whereas the minimum rear 245 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:41,840 yard depth is 7 m at 85 Benjamin Parkway. 246 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:47,760 The final item under this committee your worship committee of adjustment. This is 247 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:53,360 a notice for consent 57 and 65 Walnut Street. Notice of a public meeting to 248 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:56,640 take place by Zoom on July 23rd, 2026 at 10 a.m. has been received from the 249 00:18:54,799 --> 00:19:01,280 committee of adjustment regarding an application for consent by Walnut Park 250 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:05,520 Incorporated to sever two lots for the purpose of facilitating separate 251 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:12,160 mortgage financing for threetory and five-story apartment dwellings at 57 and 252 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:15,760 65 Walnut Street. Next committee tonight, your worship is 253 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:21,200 community engagement and services. First item under new business, 2026 Downtown 254 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:27,120 Octoberfest road closure request and a motion that reads that report ES 3826 255 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:31,200 relating to the 2026 Downtown Octoberfest road closure request be 256 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:34,559 received for information and further that council approve the temporary 257 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:39,200 closure of Talbat Street from Ros Street to Horton Street and Ros Street from 258 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:43,600 Talbet Street to Center Street from 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. on Saturday, 259 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:48,400 September 19th, 2026 to allow for downtown October Fest. Moved by 260 00:19:46,559 --> 00:19:51,919 councelor Gibson, seconded by councelor Riml. 261 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:55,760 » Questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? Any 262 00:19:53,919 --> 00:19:58,880 opposed? Carried. >> Sorry. Did you have a question, 263 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,200 Councelor Herbert? The road closure is where we don't let the cars go there. 264 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,160 No, >> no. Just a clarification. It's a new 265 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:08,000 location this year. >> Yes. Moving further to the where the 266 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:11,200 murals were, but it's at the other in the big empty lot. So 267 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:16,000 » So people will know where it is. >> Too big of a crowd to handle in the old 268 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:20,880 spot. We got to move to a bigger one. Yeah. Okay. Next. 269 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:26,320 » Next item. Your worship. Uh item that deals with ice allocation policy review. 270 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:30,400 Motion that reads that report PR 2026 relating to the ice allocation policy 271 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:34,080 review be received for information. And further that council approve the sole 272 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:38,799 source retention of healthy placemaking solutions led by Dr. Troy Glover to 273 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:44,159 undertake a comprehensive review of the ICE uh the city's ice allocation policy 274 00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:48,080 and further that the results of the review, including recommended policy 275 00:20:46,159 --> 00:20:55,440 updates, be presented to council for consideration prior to implementation 276 00:20:50,159 --> 00:20:58,159 for the 2027 2028 ice season. Moved by councelor Rho, seconded by councelor 277 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:02,320 Clark. >> Questions or comments? 278 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:06,000 Councelor Clark, >> I think it's a great idea to get an 279 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:10,880 outside voice and especially somebody far away so that people that don't like 280 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:16,159 the results, uh, you know, they got to got to go fair ways to tar and feather 281 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:20,400 them and it won't be us that'll be t taking the heat because it's always a 282 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:25,919 sensitive subject and, uh, it's good to get an outside voice who is neutral and 283 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:31,280 and can review this. And it's it it really does need uh looking at since we 284 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:36,880 have so many new people applying and it's it's tough to keep everyone happy. 285 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:40,799 » I and I agree, Councelor Clark, and I thought about it right away. You're just 286 00:21:38,559 --> 00:21:45,280 trying to protect us, aren't you? Excellent. Further questions or 287 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:50,240 comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 288 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:55,440 » Next item relates to 2026 declaration of compliance adult day program. Motion 289 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:59,440 that reads that report VV0326 relating to the 2026 declaration of 290 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,799 compliance adult day program be received for information. And further that 291 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,799 council approve the compliance declaration for Valley View Home Adult 292 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:10,880 Day Program and authorized staff to forward it to Ontario Health. And 293 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,480 further that council direct a bylaw be prepared to authorize the Marin clerk to 294 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:18,400 sign the declaration of compliance. Moved by councelor Baldwin Sands, 295 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:24,720 seconded by councelor Taylor. >> Questions or comments? Councelor Riml, 296 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:28,559 » just want to say this is a it's fantastic for Valley View and day 297 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:32,240 program is wonderful and we were there a couple of weeks ago for some extra 298 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:36,880 funding and I just want to mention a bit about the day program. A lot of people I 299 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:41,360 don't think are aware that the day program operates two groups per day, 300 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:46,000 Monday to Friday, and it's only $15 per 4hour session and that includes a meal. 301 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:51,200 Uh if you want transportation, it's an extra $15. And they also can accommodate 302 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:57,600 one person on an overnight stay for two nights uh during the week, and that's a 303 00:22:53,600 --> 00:23:01,039 $46 uh per night. But um they also have a tub. And I don't think a lot of people 304 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:05,360 realize you you don't have to go to the day program to book a a tub bath. 305 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:09,039 Anybody that's had knee surgery or hip surgery and you get your stitches out, 306 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:13,520 all you'd love to do is just soak in a tub. But at your own home, who's going 307 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:19,840 to get you out? So, um you can go to the day program and have a lovely bath and 308 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:25,120 uh so there's so many options available at the day program and kudos for uh for 309 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:29,280 doing this and they uh you know they would like to expand the current area 310 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:34,000 and we would also like to expand on a second site and I'm just wondering at 311 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:39,600 what point do we need to look at because uh they're they're actually um okay kind 312 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:43,520 of at this point with looking at Memorial Arena and I know with the 313 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:46,880 master parks and wreck uh survey that that arena will be staying. You know, 314 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:51,280 it's still going to be in the system. So, we've got this big open space. At 315 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:56,720 what point do we kind of have a serious look and see is this somewhere where we 316 00:23:53,840 --> 00:24:02,400 we could really uh start to put some, you know, wheels in motion to apply for 317 00:23:59,679 --> 00:24:07,280 a day program because uh Minister Flack when he was there said, you know, apply 318 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:11,840 often, apply big. So, I think we should we should do that. And I have no doubt 319 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:16,000 that you're absolutely right and I want to thank all of council. I wasn't able 320 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:20,240 to attend that day and 100% of the rest of the council showed up to to to help 321 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:26,000 with this announcement on the on addition to the day program. The um the 322 00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:30,000 declaration of compliance that we're that is on here is something that's kind 323 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:34,080 of mandatory from the ministry that we have to say yes to each year. So, but 324 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:38,559 all the great things we've been doing with the day program, I'd love to see us 325 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:43,120 expand and double. I'll take Minister Flack up on his extra money when he uh 326 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:48,000 tells us to ask for it. Um he should say yes when we do. 327 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,440 Further questions or comments? Seeing that all those in favor? Any opposed? 328 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,760 Carried. Next item. 2026 Declaration of 329 00:24:53,760 --> 00:25:00,559 Compliance Valley View Home. Motion that reads that report VV0226 330 00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:04,159 relating to the 2026 declaration of compliance Valley View Home be received 331 00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:07,600 for information. And further that council approve the compliance 332 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:11,279 declaration for Valley View Home and authorize staff to forward it to Ontario 333 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,880 Health. And further that council direct a bylaw be prepared to authorize the 334 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:19,120 mayor and clerk to sign the declaration of compliance. Moved by councelor Clark, 335 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:23,840 seconded by councelor Taylor. >> Questions or comments on this 336 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:27,200 declaration? Councelor Rhiml. I just want to say that, you know, having 337 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:31,279 worked in long-term care myself, this is it's really a challenge to be in 338 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,360 compliance with the Ministry of Health and long-term care. So, kudos for the 339 00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:41,600 staff. It's also, you know, when you're advertising spots um you know, people 340 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:45,520 looking at homes to to uh enter into that this is, you know, they can declare 341 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:50,000 that they're compliant and and it's a really big deal and um congratulations 342 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,360 to them. Thank you. >> Well, thank you, Councelor Raml, for 343 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:58,240 bringing that up. And I see Michael Carol is on here tonight online with us. 344 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:02,320 So pass our kudos on Michael to you and all the staff on the compliance on both 345 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:08,720 the day program and on the valley view program. Thank you for for all you do 346 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:13,440 for um further questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? Are 347 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:16,400 there any opposed? Carried. >> Worship. The next committee is 348 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,760 infrastructure and civic operations. First matter under new business relates 349 00:26:17,919 --> 00:26:24,640 to 2026 drinking water quality management system DWQM management 350 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:30,640 review. Motion that reads that report ES 3726 relating to the 2026 drinking water 351 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:34,559 quality management system DWQMS management review be received for 352 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:40,080 information. Moved by councelor Riml seconded by councelor Taylor. 353 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:44,799 » Questions or comments? Councelor Taylor. >> Thank you your worship. I appreciate 354 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:47,760 that. I've got a question in regards to great report holy mackerel. I read 355 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:53,440 through this report there's a lot of good stuff in here but one thing that 356 00:26:49,679 --> 00:27:00,159 confused me is that we are stating that we are losing 16.4% of the water that we 357 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:05,360 bring into the city I guess or 800 almost 800,000 358 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:10,799 cubic meters of water is being lost. yet the report that came out from 359 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:16,880 whoever sent the report in says that there are no leaks detected. So, I'm 360 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:20,880 just trying to figure out um in preparation for another item coming up 361 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:28,400 under 15C where we are going to be contributing 362 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:32,080 7.5 or $7.5 million to the replacement of our water meter system. And one of 363 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:37,600 the reasons that we're talking about leakage is that some of it is being not 364 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:41,200 calculated in the current water meter system. So, I'm just trying to in my own 365 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:47,919 mind trying to figure out where did 800,000 cubic meters of water go um 366 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:53,279 when no leaks are detected and that we're going to spend $7 367 00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:58,000 5 million to replace water meters that are a contributing factor to water loss. 368 00:27:56,559 --> 00:28:03,720 Somebody could answer that question, I'd appreciate it. 369 00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:03,720 Okay. Who wants it? 370 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:17,600 What' you do with all the water? No. Uh through your worship. Uh 371 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:22,240 we don't find any leaks. We do the testing. We bring someone in to do the 372 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:26,159 uh testing. A lot of this goes to um construction sites. Overland and stuff 373 00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:30,799 is not metered. Um it's metered through the homes, but we also flush through the 374 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:35,039 metering. uh we monitor our flushing but through construction through other 375 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:41,360 aspects like that we do use what we call lose a lot of water. Um that next 376 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:46,399 program coming up will capture a lot of that. We're also doing metering now on 377 00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:51,520 construction projects. So we're metering our testing because we flush for the 378 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:57,120 entire week. So that's basically a two-inch main running for the entire 379 00:28:54,159 --> 00:29:00,320 week. So, we'll start capturing that as part of this. 380 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,279 » You okay, a followup? >> Yes, thank you very much. That is the 381 00:29:01,919 --> 00:29:07,840 answer I was looking for because I didn't really see that in the report. 382 00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:13,120 When you when the public reads this, um, they they will notice that 16.4% of our 383 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:16,080 water disappears. It's not due to evaporation, but I can understand that. 384 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:20,640 I think it's even when we are flushing water manes for fire hydrants, maybe 385 00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:26,320 that kind of stuff is just water that >> understandable. So was the report able 386 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:31,200 to find are we losing water because of poor water meters? Did was that 387 00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:36,320 examined? Thank you. >> Uh through your worship, yes, we lose 388 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:43,279 accuracy in meters. Um it kind of drops off every 5 years. Uh so after 15 years, 389 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:49,880 you start to lose 5%. So if we take 5% times the 17,000 meters we have in the 390 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,880 city, it does add up. 391 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:56,000 » Okay. You all right? Councelor Gibson, then councelor Herbert. 392 00:29:54,000 --> 00:30:00,399 » Uh, just one question. So, I'm assuming because we don't moderate moderate the 393 00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:05,039 water when we're flushing, I'm assuming when we have we've had many large fires 394 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:10,880 this past year. So, I'm just wondering if that's also accountable not being 395 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:16,559 measured uh with with so many fires. I'm assuming that we're not measuring that 396 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:20,240 water loss even in that area. through your worship. Uh, yes, we 397 00:30:17,919 --> 00:30:24,640 estimate that. Um, the trucks don't have any kind of flow measuring, so it's just 398 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:28,399 an estimate we do based on how long we figure they were flushing for. 399 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,080 Okay. >> Did I see councelor Herbert, you're 400 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,679 next? >> Yes. Thank you, worship. Well, thank you 401 00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:38,720 for the report. It's an excellent report. It's a good read. The ones that 402 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:44,880 I always catch my eye eye is is the one that when there's a possible presence of 403 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:49,919 bacteria in the water. So in here there was one July 10th. So when you get that 404 00:30:48,159 --> 00:30:55,760 result, how fast is the information sent over to 405 00:30:52,159 --> 00:31:01,039 the public health? And how if it was an afternoon on a Saturday, is there a 406 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:05,679 process a new a process where you find it? How's it sent? How's it responded? 407 00:31:03,919 --> 00:31:11,440 How does the public health say gee to 450 homes there's possible presence of 408 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:15,679 bacteria? How does all that take place? because you did have one on July 10th 409 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:19,440 that could be a very big concern, but just how does it relayed on and how 410 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:24,159 quick is it happen? >> Uh through your worship, we have an SOP 411 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:29,120 in place uh that lays out exactly who calls who um and how quickly it happens. 412 00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:33,919 Uh I am the first call from the laboratory and then it goes from me to 413 00:31:31,919 --> 00:31:39,039 the health unit to spills action and that way and then two staff to go out 414 00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:42,480 and start flushing and sampling. just to follow up your words. So the 415 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,519 assumption is they can get a hold of you. What if they can't get a hold of 416 00:31:43,679 --> 00:31:49,679 you? What's what's the process then? Is there a follow because that's it goes 417 00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:54,960 way back to Walker. All this stuff all changed because of all this stuff here. 418 00:31:51,760 --> 00:32:00,080 And uh I just concerned there could be a delay. Is there a big danger to the 450 419 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:04,240 homes if they don't find out for 24 hours 420 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:08,399 » uh through your worship? um we have in place where they call if 421 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,600 they can't get a hold of me, they immediately call the next person in 422 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:17,440 line. They have a call list to follow the same as as we do. Um 423 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:22,159 they would they have a right to notify us within the hour of them finding out 424 00:32:20,159 --> 00:32:28,240 um and they just keep calling until they find someone. So it uh we sample on 425 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:32,880 Mondays and Wednesdays uh to make sure that that call should be coming in at 426 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:35,919 the latest to us on Thursday at 4:00. So we're still staff are still around and 427 00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:40,960 staff are still available. So we should never get that call on a Saturday. 428 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,200 » So So should you have it set up with public health who to call? 429 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,519 » Yes. >> They're on call 247 for that information 430 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:51,840 and they would send I just want to make sure the process is clear and there's 431 00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:59,519 not a real danger when you're talking E.coli. That's all. So okay, thank you 432 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:04,640 » councelor Riml. just um I'm on the water board and just that when we talk about 433 00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:10,159 um Valley View and compliance, the compliance for the water uh board, the 434 00:33:07,679 --> 00:33:14,799 water system is I don't know if you it's fair to say a hundred times more, but 435 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:19,600 the amount of regulations and the testing and the reporting they do is 436 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:25,600 phenomenal. So, I think people can rest assured that, you know, um the city is 437 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:29,760 certainly on on top of things. It's it's just amazing the amount of reporting 438 00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:34,799 that's done. Anyway, thank you. >> Thank you. Very detailed report. Further 439 00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:39,120 questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? Any 440 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:44,799 oppose? Carried. Thank you. >> Next item, your worship relates to 441 00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:50,240 front-end loader tender 2026 058 award. Motion that reads that report ES4126 442 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:53,240 relating to the front end loader tender 2026-058 443 00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:58,880 award be received for information and further that council accept a tender 444 00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:04,159 submitted by Brandt Tractor in the amount of $252,500 445 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:09,520 excluding HST for the purchase of a new front-end loader as specified in their 446 00:34:06,399 --> 00:34:14,560 submission to tender 202658. Moved by councelor Riml seconded by 447 00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:19,440 councelor Herbert. questions or comments on the loader. Councelor Gibson, 448 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:25,440 » thank you. Worship, just one question. Um, so there's a there's good to be um I 449 00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:29,359 I realize it's just for the uh the machinery itself, but not for the 450 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:32,879 attachments. So there's going to be uh $93,56 451 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,320 remaining. Is that going to be enough for any attachments that you need? And 452 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:41,440 you if you're going to be coming back to council in the next budget for 453 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:46,760 attachments required >> uh through your worship. No, they won't 454 00:34:42,879 --> 00:34:46,760 be coming back for any more money. 455 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:54,240 » Great answer, Councelor Clark. 456 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:59,920 » The the old is this an additional load lo loader or will we be uh replacing one 457 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:03,040 or will the will the old one continue in operation for some time? Uh 458 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,000 » through your worship, this will be a replacement. 459 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:13,280 So, we'll declare it surplus and the old one will be sold for asset. 460 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:18,800 » Yes. Great. Further questions or comments? 461 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:26,400 Jing. All in favor? Any opposed? Carried. Thanks. Next item relates to 462 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:30,079 AMI water meter system RFP 2026 023 award. Motion that reads that report 463 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:34,400 ES4326 relating to the AMI water meter system 464 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:40,240 RFP 202623 award be received for information and 465 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:46,359 further that council award RFP 2026 023 to Meter Core Incorporated in the 466 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,359 amount of $7,518,21169 467 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:56,640 excluding HST. Moved by Councelor Gibson seconded by councelor Riml. 468 00:35:54,720 --> 00:36:01,280 » Questions or comments? I thought we'd go to councelor Taylor on this one. 469 00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:04,720 » No, the they the answers on the last question were fabulous. I just wanted to 470 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:09,760 put it out there as just in case the public was asking questions. Um my 471 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:14,640 question involves uh maybe just a quick overview of the schedule. How long will 472 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:18,640 it take? Um you to take my house off the list. I had to get a new water meter 473 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:22,400 replaced in my house uh over the last week. So take me off the list. 474 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:26,720 » Yeah. You have to quit disconnecting your own water meter. Councelor Taylor. 475 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:30,880 Yeah, it and and you know, the guys that came to fix my water meter to replace it 476 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:34,240 were did a phenomenal job. So, thumbs up to that. But just looking for a schedule 477 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:38,960 because I understand it's going to take a few years. Correct. 478 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:45,119 » For your worship, we plan to be done the whole program in the end of 2027. 479 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:49,599 » Good. >> Further questions or comments? 480 00:36:47,839 --> 00:36:54,400 » Seeing none, all those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 481 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,079 » Worship. Next item relates to major line rail corridor infrastructure crossing 482 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:03,040 agreements. Motion that reads that report ES4426 relating to major line 483 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,880 rail corridor infrastructure crossing agreements be received for information. 484 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:11,200 And further that council direct bylaws be drafted to authorize the marin clerk 485 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:15,680 to execute the crossing agreements with the Canadian National Railway for the 486 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:19,680 water man and sanitary sewer crossings of the rail corridor on major line to 487 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:24,880 service development within northwest area 1. Moved by councelor Riml, 488 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:29,359 seconded by councelor Herbert. >> Questions or comments? 489 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:33,599 Seeing none, all those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 490 00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:38,000 » Next item relates to Heepburn Parket revitalization build community strong 491 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:43,359 fund application. Motion that reads that report PR 2126 relating to Hepern Parket 492 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:47,119 revitalization build community strong fund application be received for 493 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:51,200 information. And further that council endorse the Hepern Parkquette 494 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:55,200 revitalization project for submission to the build community strong fund local 495 00:37:53,440 --> 00:38:00,000 impact stream and direct staff to prepare an application for a 2027 start. 496 00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:05,599 Moved by councelor Baldwin Sands, seconded by councelor Taylor. 497 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:09,680 » Questions or comments? Councelor Gibson. >> Thank you worship. Uh, this is 498 00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:13,200 fantastic. I know a lot of people are wanting to keep it looking at the 499 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:17,680 looking the way it has been for the past few years that was first put in, but I 500 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:21,440 like the new innovation in it. I just have one uh real quick question. The 501 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:28,240 vendor kiosk, is that going to be a seasonal kiosk or is it going to be like 502 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:34,240 a uh open all year? And if the vendor kiosk is going to be there, is it be 503 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:37,839 specifically for food or other ventures of entrepreneurships there? 504 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,119 Adrian, I think it's you. >> Yep. Through your worship to councelor 505 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:48,720 Gibson. Thank you for the question. Uh the kiosk would be a provisional in the 506 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:53,119 project um so that we can get a cost on what it would be to install that. Uh we 507 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,480 would look at both options having it open seasonally and need and the need 508 00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:00,320 for the infrastructure to keep it open year round. Um and then I I would 509 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:04,800 believe we would put out an expression of interest to see who would be 510 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:10,800 interested in, you know, being in that space. I do imagine it's selling food, 511 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:14,880 creating um you know a hub for lunchtime visitors to the park, but I guess it all 512 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:19,200 depends on on who we get that are interested. 513 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:24,880 » Further questions or comments? Okay, I'll go Taylor Baldwin Sands Clark. 514 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:28,720 » Thank you, your worship. Um, I do want to say that during Nostalgian Nights 515 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:34,400 last Saturday, the upper and parket was used very, very well. And, uh, thank 516 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,680 goodness we have this product, this, uh, project in our downtown. It's 517 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,839 unfortunate it didn't happen last year, but man, I'm fingers crossed that we can 518 00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:47,200 get the funding for this to go through next year. Uh, and I do want to say, uh, 519 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:50,720 in the gallery tonight is Andrew Gun, who has accumulated, from what I 520 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:55,520 understand, $100,000 worth of private funding to assist in our downtown. I 521 00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:59,839 want to say kudos for that kind of money and just to put it out there, we are 522 00:39:57,359 --> 00:40:01,760 open for other funding sources. I understand. 523 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:04,960 » No, please just throw it over the edge. We're okay. 524 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:08,320 » Thank you. >> Um I think councelor Baldwin Sand you 525 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,800 were next, right? >> Okay. 526 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:15,839 » Thank you very much. I am very pleased to see this project as well. And this 527 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:21,200 morning we did receive something from um very community activist who presented to 528 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:26,640 us something that the Fanial College students did in a previous council which 529 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:31,280 could visualize what the project could become. And I think it's a testament to 530 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:36,720 a former premier of the province of Ontario that hailed from the area of St. 531 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:40,240 Thomas that this park has gone to a state of disrepair for an extended 532 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:45,359 period of time and to see the life that can bring back to it. not just for the 533 00:40:43,359 --> 00:40:50,240 Talbet Street landscape, but for the entire community. I think it will be a 534 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:55,200 great asset to our downtown and to the entire community and to the legacy of 535 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,800 Mitchell Hepper. Thank you. >> Yep. Great, 536 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:03,760 Mr. Clark. >> Thanks, your worship. Yeah, I I just 537 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:10,400 want to echo counselor uh Baldwin Sans's comments about uh Russell and his uh his 538 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:16,079 students work and the idea of uh however we I I love the idea of it being 539 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:20,560 rejuvenated and I would I hope that we would keep in mind the the idea of a 540 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,240 phase two where we could push push the park all the way through to Center 541 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:29,839 Street and uh make use of the parking lot. And so I'm hoping that as we design 542 00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:35,040 phase one that we keep that in mind so that it doesn't become a problematic if 543 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:39,119 if we wanted to expand it and go into a phase two. 544 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:44,720 » Further questions? Councelor Herbert. Thank you. Worship. I I'm sure I missed 545 00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:48,720 it, but as we said on Saturday, there was four or five bands in there. Is 546 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:54,319 there a place in this thing for bands in the park, Andrew? Is there a spot in 547 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:58,880 here for music and spies? Okay. I was I wasn't sure when I looked at the the 548 00:41:56,079 --> 00:42:01,760 agenda that you wrote down. Anyway, you're telling me there's spot. That's 549 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,640 all I need to know. Thank you very much. Support it. 550 00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:07,920 » You and Rita were out dancing on Saturday night, were you? 551 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:11,200 » Yes. >> Further questions or comments? Councelor 552 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:15,680 Riml. >> Thank you. I I also um think it would be 553 00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:20,640 great to look at a phase two where we could perhaps extend the park to the 554 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:25,359 trail system. So the so then there'd be a connection from the trail to Talbot 555 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:29,760 Street which would be awesome. And um also I think Andrew's here for the mural 556 00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:34,720 part that's in part of a heritage report further down. But anyway, thank you. 557 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:40,480 » He's multitasking. He can I've seen him. He can do more than one thing at once. 558 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:45,119 Further questions or comments? Seeing none. All those in favor? 559 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:49,599 Any opposed? That's carried. Next item relates to tender award piano 560 00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:54,560 enclosure Westlake Evans Park. Motion that reads that report PR226 relating to 561 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:58,000 the tender award piano enclosure Westlake Evans Park be received for 562 00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:02,960 information and further that council award tender 2026 056 for the 563 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:07,680 construction of the Westlake Evans Civic Park piano enclosure to Acuratus Design 564 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:13,440 and Build Incorporated in the amount of $855,500 565 00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:18,000 excluding HST. Moved by Councelor Taylor. seconded by councelor Gibson. 566 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:23,040 » Questions or comments? If I if I can just add, we've been 567 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:27,280 waiting so long for this. Um I had a Facebook memory come up today of of the 568 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,960 first announcement or one of the first announcements of the provincial funding 569 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:35,040 for West Lake Evans Park and we're standing there in just a nice green lawn 570 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:39,440 where the police station used to be. And so just a couple years ago, that's what 571 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:43,839 we've gone to to where we are to a uh street party already taken place this 572 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:48,800 year and and very well used for West Lake Evans Park and and Curtis Street. 573 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:54,560 So um thank you for finally getting to the to the piano enclosure. Um we all 574 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,319 know that that means we can take down the signs. Uh the mayor has only been 575 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:02,560 lobbying that for a little while, but we'll get the uh the the tender done and 576 00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:06,880 then we can move forward. But, uh, it's a great addition to our downtown to have 577 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:10,880 a downtown park like that in an area where we can actually do street parties 578 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:14,640 and such. And to see the number of people certainly from our library, but 579 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:19,920 from the whole neighborhood using that park every day is uh, tells us we did 580 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:23,200 the right thing and in instead of uh, turning that land back into something 581 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:28,319 else. No other questions or comments then. Oh, 582 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:32,880 councelor Gibson, I'm sorry. Um, as you were saying, your worship, 583 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:36,960 it's this is phenomenal. I I'm I'm really pleased uh that we're moving 584 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:40,880 forward on this, being a board member on the library board, um, it's very 585 00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:45,119 exciting. We've had we just did the Neely Garden, and now we're doing having 586 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:48,160 this being in place, it's it's going to be phenomenal. And you're right, the 587 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:52,720 block party that was there, that was really fantastic. And what a great asset 588 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,520 this little piece here would be for the entertainment when we have our next one. 589 00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:59,440 Yeah. Thank you. >> You're coming to play piano. Great. 590 00:44:57,119 --> 00:45:03,520 Excellent to hear. >> Further questions or comments? Seeing 591 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,440 that, all those in favor? Are there any opposed? That's carried. 592 00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:10,960 Your worship, we're going to move on to the corporate governance administration 593 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:15,440 committee. Uh, first item under new business relates to the annual treasurer 594 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:19,839 statement of development charges 2025. Motion that reads that report TR526 595 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:23,760 relating to annual treasurer statement of development charges 2025 be received 596 00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:27,040 for information. and further that council authorize staff to send a copy 597 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:31,280 of the annual treasur statement of development charges to the minister of 598 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,839 municipal affairs and housing. Moved by councelor Riml, seconded by councelor 599 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:39,280 Gibson. >> Questions or comments? Councelor Riml. 600 00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:45,839 » Thanks. I just have a question about the um deserve development charge reserve 601 00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:50,960 funds and I see the library um with a reserve fund and my understanding and I 602 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:57,280 might be wrong is in the new development charges libraries can't be can't access 603 00:45:54,560 --> 00:46:01,280 development charges for construction things like that is that true 604 00:45:59,839 --> 00:46:04,960 » Mr. Treasurer. >> Thank you, your worship. I'm pleased to 605 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:08,640 report that's not true. Uh we are working on a new development charge 606 00:46:06,319 --> 00:46:12,880 background study that incorporates uh future future library space expansion 607 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,520 into our DC rates. >> Okay, great. Thank you very much. Thank 608 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,920 you. >> Further questions or comments on this 609 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:22,720 report, Mr. Treasur? Is there anything in 610 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,319 general you'd like to say about the report or we we could take it as we've 611 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,920 read it? >> Sure, take it as you read it. I'd say 612 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:33,359 like overall it was a good year. Uh we collected 9.1 million in development 613 00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:37,200 charges. Our baseline I'd say is around 5 to six. So development still strong in 614 00:46:35,839 --> 00:46:41,440 the city of St. Thomas. >> Great. Thank you. Seeing no further 615 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:46,319 questions, all those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 616 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:52,400 » Next item relates to 2026 midyear budget monitoring. Motion that reads that 617 00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:55,680 report TR1826 relating to 2026 mid-year budget monitoring be received for 618 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,359 information and further that council approve the capital funding adjustments 619 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:04,000 identified in recommendation one of report TR1826 620 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:07,920 as summarized in schedule C and further that council direct staff to prepare a 621 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:13,520 borrowing bylaw authorizing the issuance of $7.4 4 million in long-term debt to 622 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:17,119 finance the city's affordable housing initiatives and further that the 623 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:21,200 proceeds of debt be used to replenish the infrastructure reserve. Moved by 624 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:27,280 councelor Riml, seconded by councelor Herbert. 625 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:31,520 » Questions or comments? Councelor Clark. >> Thank you, worship. I'm just I'm just 626 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:37,440 puzzled by why we would take out long-term debt when we have um small 627 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:43,599 amount when we have amounts of reserves in in in the budget or we've seen for 628 00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:48,800 example uh some of our uh tender awards come back under and you know there's a 629 00:47:45,359 --> 00:47:53,440 million here and 500,000 there and why would we pay interest on long-term debt 630 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:59,200 when when we still have some reserves and why wouldn't we kind of pay as we go 631 00:47:56,319 --> 00:48:03,920 and Um, so I'm just wondering if if we're going to get a deal on 7.4 million 632 00:48:01,839 --> 00:48:09,119 in terms of the interest rate or whether we would whether it's cheaper to, you 633 00:48:07,359 --> 00:48:14,079 know, divide it off. You know, if you need 2 million one year, you pay for, 634 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:18,319 you know, you you take out the loan for the 2 million rather than taking it all 635 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:22,480 out at one time when we still have reserves. 636 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:26,720 » Mr. Treasure, thank you, worship. It's a it's a good question. Uh, there are 637 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:31,280 other reserves uh that the city has. The problem is we don't have the right kinds 638 00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:35,440 of reserves. Most of of our reserve funding is restricted for various 639 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:39,760 purposes. And so what we're finding is um we're hurting in the areas of taxf 640 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:43,280 funded capital and we're hurting in the areas of contingency funding for the 641 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:46,880 budget. So kind of tying into the purpose of the report, we're forecasting 642 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:50,640 a deficit. The infrastructure reserve is actually uh serves a dual purpose. It 643 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:55,200 funds the city's capital program and it offsets things like uh when winter 644 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:59,680 control goes over budget or um there's HR issues relating to uh employees on 645 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:03,680 leave. Those funds in that infrastructure reserve that taxf funded 646 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:07,920 reserve can offset those things whereas you can't use DCS to to apply against 647 00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:11,920 those kinds of costs. You can't use water uh user fees to apply against 648 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:17,760 those kinds of costs and some of these other um uh reserves also not eligible. 649 00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:25,520 So we have had a good tendering year. uh most of the uh tendering um surpluses do 650 00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:28,880 not pertain to taxf funded portions of projects and so that's the difficulty 651 00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:33,359 here. >> Go ahead councelor Clay. 652 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:40,760 » So what what amount of reserves would be eligible like what what have we got that 653 00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:40,760 we could be using against the 7.5? 654 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:47,040 So right now I've if you look at schedule B of the report um that top 655 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:51,839 section called reserves is council's flexible reserves. It you could do 656 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:55,680 whatever you want with it. You could uh create a 20 addition reserves for this 657 00:49:54,240 --> 00:50:00,160 and splice it up however you want. It's completely at council's discretion how 658 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:03,599 that money is used. Um the categories below that like utility related 659 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:07,520 industrial development obligatory reserve funds. Council cannot choose how 660 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:12,640 to use those reserves. There's there's prescribed purposes for those reserves. 661 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:17,119 So right now we're ending uh 2026 with a 5.1 million in those those flexible 662 00:50:15,359 --> 00:50:20,960 reserve funding. Right now that's a lot of money it's it would seem uh but you 663 00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:24,079 have to remember that city has to operate as well. 664 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:29,280 » And so generally what we like to have is about 3 months operating um in this uh 665 00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:34,480 in the working fund reserve which is our kind of our cash flow is what we use to 666 00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:37,760 pay the bills um uh during the year. We need we need that reserve fund 667 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:42,960 established for cash flow purposes. a three-month balance would be about 6.7 668 00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:46,079 million. So that your totality is actually below what I would set as a 669 00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:50,400 working fund for the city. And what that leads to is actually the city borrowing 670 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:54,559 from restricted funds temporarily and repaying them with interest. And so we 671 00:50:52,960 --> 00:51:00,400 have this effect where we're going to have to pay interest anyway towards our 672 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:05,200 um our restricted funds. uh so we might as well pay interest on external debt 673 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:08,640 which was really the purpose of it's it's how the budget was designed for 674 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:13,119 those housing projects. It was actually asked through council as a debtf funded 675 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,000 uh project. The debt was just never drawn. It was drawn from your 676 00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:19,440 infrastructure reserve and that's why every quarter when I report on the 677 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,960 finances I'm saying your infrastructure reserve is in a bit of trouble. And so 678 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:28,119 we're looking to fix that through this resolution. 679 00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:28,119 » Go ahead councelor Clark. 680 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:36,800 Is this something that we could do? I guess part of it is timing. We're 681 00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:42,079 halfway through the budget. Is this something where we could take a smaller 682 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:46,240 amount and then align it so that we're doing 683 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:51,200 um making this type of decision at budget time so that we would know um 684 00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:56,880 that we could tie it to each year's budget in terms of what we would need. 685 00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:02,880 And and I guess the other question is is that the 7.5 is 686 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:10,920 um I know you said we're tight there. How when would we need to take out this 687 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,920 type of loan again? 688 00:52:11,359 --> 00:52:17,200 Ideally, you manage these reserves through your operating budget. So you're 689 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:21,119 making contributions annually uh to make sure that the reserves don't fall beyond 690 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:24,240 a certain point. then your reserves wouldn't have fallen be beyond a certain 691 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:29,359 point if those housing projects were funded through debt as designed through 692 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:32,960 the the budget. Um, one of the things that the city needs to do is develop a 693 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:38,960 reserve policy with target balances to know when we're kind of falling below 694 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:42,800 what uh the treasur and city council determines to be a sufficient reserve 695 00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:47,040 balance in lie of having an actual policy in place. I I'm just giving you 696 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:52,000 my advice that that that your reserves are quite low for taxf funded flexible 697 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:55,440 kinds of reserves. Um to answer your first question, it could wait till the 698 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:59,200 new council is in place. It's just we're already having cash flow issues, so 699 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:02,319 we're already leaning into the borrowing against restricted funds, but it is 700 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:07,079 completely at council's discretion whether we decide to issue this debt or 701 00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:07,079 not. 702 00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:12,160 » Do I have another any other comments or questions? Councelor Herbert, 703 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:17,359 » I was in the same direction as councelor Clark about the reserves and I mean your 704 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:22,079 operating deficit is projected 500 but what happens if it turned into a million 705 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:26,880 by the end of the year? We could but anyway so that can be discussed later. 706 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:32,319 So anyway, thanks Adam. Councelor Ry, 707 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:38,000 » thank you. I understand the need for the um additional funds even though it's 708 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:45,839 it's unfortunate. My my concern is kind of how we got there. And um when I look 709 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:52,319 at the affordable housing projects, the tiny hope, it was initially um presented 710 00:53:49,119 --> 00:54:00,720 to council at $3 million and currently the cost is 5.5. So how did we get 2.2 711 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:06,079 2.5 million over that? And was this are these projects like are they as the 712 00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:10,240 housing and the affordable housing that we talked about right off the bat? Those 713 00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:15,520 are federally funded. They didn't come with any tax dollars uh implication to 714 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:20,240 the to the city at all. Yet we still, you know, added some affordable housing. 715 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:24,720 These projects was there, you know, applications were there we monitoring 716 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:31,440 the amounts? Do we have an application where it says um uh this developer 717 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:36,319 project is such and we want to we can contribute x amount of dollars without 718 00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:42,480 going in debt. Like do we do we keep an eye on these because this is 14,400 719 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:46,640 um,000 dollars worth of debt for these three projects. I don't know if these 720 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:53,920 three projects had applications to the city, if they were um monitored, that 721 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:57,839 kind of thing. So, um, it just like as I say the tiny hope because on the website 722 00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:02,000 for the Y they they say that the city contributed three million. That's what 723 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:07,839 it says right there, but it's 5.5. That's 2.5 million is a lot of extra 724 00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:12,079 money. So, my concern is um you know when we in future going forward we don't 725 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:16,079 have a lot of extra money. So, we need to make sure we have some kind of policy 726 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:21,359 or guideline for projects that come to us like this. Do we have some a 727 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:25,760 percentage amount that we would give for a a private developer that wants to do 728 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:31,520 some project and we need to have monitoring tools similar to the uh 729 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:36,880 affordable housing program? >> Mr. Treasure, comments on that? 730 00:55:35,359 --> 00:55:41,440 » Looking through my notes here. I wasn't here obviously at the time, but I recall 731 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:46,079 seeing that those projects were a mix of of um municipal tax support and grants 732 00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:52,000 that we had cobbled together. So, it's conceivable that that 5.5 million is a 733 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:55,599 mix. Uh, I do believe that the municipal contribution was 3 million, but I I 734 00:55:53,760 --> 00:56:00,000 could check those numbers for you. I I don't think that the city went that far 735 00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:04,160 over budget on these projects. >> Go ahead. Just do we have a policy in 736 00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:08,240 place for projects like this that come to us that we have some kind of an 737 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:12,079 application process where we you know look at percentages of you know the 738 00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:17,839 builder's going to give us this much money we can afford to give this much 739 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:23,720 money some kind of um application and some kind of guideline so that we're not 740 00:56:19,839 --> 00:56:23,720 overextending ourselves. 741 00:56:24,319 --> 00:56:30,240 » Mr. Treasurer go ahead. >> So this is how the Hayawatha project 742 00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:33,920 worked from earlier. We established a committee and part of that process was 743 00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:39,119 vetting the financial feasibility of projects submitted. Um that was assessed 744 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:43,359 to make sure that these are credible proposals that can stand on the funding 745 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:48,240 uh mixes that were being proposed for the projects. So I imagine that it took 746 00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:53,119 place in the past as well for tiny hope and and high high view hideway and 747 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:56,319 balaclava. I can't say that for sure because I wasn't here but that's how we 748 00:56:54,559 --> 00:57:00,559 did Hayawa. So there is kind of a process in place whether we create a 749 00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:05,280 formal formal policy that could be something that's considered 750 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:10,640 » if I can only 751 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:14,720 share with you some of these happen so so quickly or it's a brand new grow 752 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,839 grant process from the federal government or provincial government that 753 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:22,319 has to be lined up with something else we're always doing. So the I I tend to 754 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:26,319 agree with what the treasurer said. I don't think we're we're any anywhere 755 00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:31,440 over budget on a project. It's just that some of it is somebody else's money that 756 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:36,240 we got to funnel. So, it looks like we spent 5 million when in fact we 757 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:41,680 committed 3 million of municipal funds towards a project. I I I'll look forward 758 00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:45,040 to having that further conversation with the treasur. But I feel pretty 759 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:49,920 comfortable in each of the projects that we've done, larger projects like that. 760 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:56,000 That's exactly it's a hybrid amount of money federal, provincial and ours. 761 00:57:53,839 --> 00:58:00,720 » But sir, as I guess as long as going forward we have some practices and 762 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:05,520 guidelines in place that we're you know looking at uh uh the the cost and then 763 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:09,520 looking at how much money we have in the bank because until you know in the next 764 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:13,760 two three years until we start to get some money in from uh the Volkswagen 765 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:18,480 plant you know things are are tight >> tight. Yeah. Councelor Clark on that or 766 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:22,160 or on anything else you'd like us to be on. 767 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:27,520 » Thanks, Worship. Well, it it it kind of dovetales with what councelor Riml is 768 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:33,520 saying that the the last the second last part of the um of this the description 769 00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:38,400 says that we're we're seeking the 7.4 million long-term 770 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:43,119 debt to finance the city's affordable housing initiatives. 771 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:47,359 So, I guess the question is if if we can't afford to do them, why are we 772 00:58:44,799 --> 00:58:53,119 doing them? Like, we're hearing that it's it's through grants and it and and 773 00:58:50,559 --> 00:59:00,960 yet the comment here is that we're borrowing the 7.4 to finance affordable 774 00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:05,680 housing. So, I'm I'm just puzzled by by that state. 775 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:09,760 » Mr. Treasurer, bring that around. It's not unusual that a municipality 776 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:14,480 would choose to debt finance something like this. It's actually um we use this 777 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:19,200 $10 word word called intergenerational equity where um you don't typically want 778 00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:22,799 to use a stack of the money the money that we've saved from past residents for 779 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:27,040 an asset that's going to be benefiting future residents. And so a new asset 780 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:32,079 like this, it is kind of equitable to charge it through debt against the the 781 00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:35,599 uh residents of the municipality who are going to benefit from it as opposed to 782 00:59:33,839 --> 00:59:39,200 like reconstruction of a road. People driving the roads right now should be 783 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:43,520 paying towards its eventual replacement. This was a new set of housing 784 00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:47,440 initiatives that I think um the the treasur had designed through the budget 785 00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:51,359 to to be funded through the debt and that never occurred. But I think that 786 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:54,359 was the correct uh budget design at the time. 787 00:59:55,119 --> 01:00:01,839 Further questions or comments? Mr. Treasurer, it's always great to see 788 00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:09,000 a report. I know and I thank you for doing them quarterly now and so we're 789 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:09,000 we're getting more constant up to-date. 790 01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:12,839 Are we okay? 791 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:22,000 We we are okay. Uh we've taken on a lot with the Yarmouth Yards project as you 792 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:25,599 stated. Um, so there there, yeah, there's a lot of 793 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:28,799 investment going on right now. I think we're somewhat committed to to seeing 794 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:34,079 that through, but we are we are certainly okay. Um, we would be more 795 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:37,920 okay if we took on this debt. Well, then then thank you for doing 796 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:43,200 that. But I'll also add that uh many of the citizens that speak with us think 797 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:47,359 we're in a an incredible better better space because because of Power Co coming 798 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:51,920 to our community and Viennode coming to our community and and the great other 799 01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:56,160 businesses we have out there like Element 5 and a number of others. And we 800 01:00:54,720 --> 01:01:01,359 have to remind them from time to time that we haven't made a dime yet on some 801 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:05,280 of those investments. We we see them. We know that we're going to be okay because 802 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:09,760 of that. But there some of them are two years out if I mean I don't see charging 803 01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:13,520 taxes to Power Co until such time as they get to make batteries and sell them 804 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:18,319 in our community. And so that's what we're waiting for. A lot of construction 805 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:22,799 going on and as we see um our industrial development people here today too. A lot 806 01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:27,760 of expenses we've had to do to get that future revenue to come in. And so 807 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:32,400 sometimes reminding the folks that that actually have to pay our tax bills that 808 01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:36,079 um we're not benefiting from those great things we've done yet. But boy, will we 809 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:40,480 ever be able to in the future. And that's that's what it's about. So, thank 810 01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:44,400 you for you you're you're at least using my same words that we're okay, right? 811 01:01:42,799 --> 01:01:47,680 We're doing all right. We're doing and as you already said, some of our 812 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:51,760 revenues are already higher this year, certainly from a DC point of view. Um, 813 01:01:50,319 --> 01:01:55,359 and that's showing that we're still showing the same type of development 814 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:59,520 growth that we need to as a regular corporation, but with a lot of expenses 815 01:01:57,839 --> 01:02:02,880 out there to build Yarmouth yards and and attract new industries. Councelor 816 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,559 Ry, >> just just one more thing. In the next 817 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:10,240 quarter report, would it be possible to have a line as to how we're doing with 818 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:17,200 the rental properties? You know, are they paying their their rent? 819 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:20,160 » Okay, certainly. Y >> councelor Clark, 820 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:23,920 » just one last one. I I may have missed it, but long-term debt means how long 821 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:26,920 how how long is this being spread out over? 822 01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:32,720 In the report, we had quoted uh 25-y year debenture, which would roughly 823 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:37,720 coincide with the life of the assets that we're borrowing against. So, I 824 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,720 think that's the proper recommendation. 825 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:43,760 » Okay, further questions or comments on the treasures report? And thank you for 826 01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:47,520 having it with us. Sometimes we don't get the detail like this, we're really 827 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:52,240 pleased to have it. Seeing no other comments, question uh 828 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:56,319 all those in favor. Any oppose? That's carried. Thank you. 829 01:02:54,000 --> 01:03:00,880 » Thank you, worship. Next item relates to late penalties and interest July 31st, 830 01:02:58,319 --> 01:03:05,760 2026 tax due date. Motion that reads that report TR1926 relating to extension 831 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:10,000 of tax installment due date be received for information. Further that council 832 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:14,079 approve an amendment to the 2026 tax levby to delay the application of late 833 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:19,680 penalties and interest for the July 31st, 2026 due date for a period of one 834 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:26,839 week commencing August 8th, 2026. Moved by councelor Riml, seconded by councelor 835 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,839 Taylor. questions or comments? 836 01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:32,559 Seeing none, all those in favor? Any opposed? Carrie. 837 01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:36,799 » Thank you, worship. We'll now report back into the com uh back into council. 838 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:39,520 Uh so motion would read that uh the recommendations, directions, and actions 839 01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:42,880 of council and the committee of the whole as recorded in the minutes of this 840 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:47,119 date be confirmed, ratified, and adopted. Moved by councelor Baldwin 841 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:53,119 Sand, seconded by councelor Gibson. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 842 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:56,480 those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. your worship for reports of committees. 843 01:03:54,720 --> 01:04:00,559 We have six heritage alteration permits tonight. The first relates to 327 Talbet 844 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:06,160 Street. Motion that reads that report MHC 1026 relating to the heritage 845 01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:09,839 alteration permit 327 Talbet Street be received for information. And further 846 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:15,520 that council issue a heritage alteration permit for the property at 327 Talbot 847 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:19,359 Street relating to application HAP 1226 subject to including enhanced 848 01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:24,079 architectural detail to the front front facade. Moved by councelor Taylor, 849 01:04:22,319 --> 01:04:30,000 seconded by councelor Gibson. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 850 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:35,280 those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. >> Worship the second heritage alteration 851 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:40,079 permit relates to two uh 429 Talbet Street. Motion that reads that report 852 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:44,319 MHC 1126 relating to heritage alteration permit 429 Talbet Street be received for 853 01:04:42,319 --> 01:04:48,400 information. and further that council issue a heritage alteration permit for 854 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:53,359 the property at 429 Talbat Street relating to application HAP 1326. Moved 855 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:58,799 by councelor Herbert, seconded by councelor Riml. 856 01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:05,440 » Questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 857 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:10,079 » The third relates to 431 Talbet Street. Uh motion that reads that report MHC 858 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:14,319 1526 relating to the heritage alteration permit 431 Talbet Street be received for 859 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:17,760 information and further that council issue a heritage alteration permit for 860 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:22,640 the property at 431 Talbet Street relating to application HAP1 1826 moved 861 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,720 by councelor Kohler seconded by councelor 862 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:30,720 Gibson. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 863 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:35,520 those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. The fourth relates to a heritage 864 01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:40,480 alteration permit for 725 Talbet Street. Motion that reads that report MHC 1226 865 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:44,319 relating to heritage alteration permit 725 Talbot Street be received for 866 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:47,920 information and further that council issue a heritage alteration permit for 867 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:53,520 the property at 725 Talbot Street relating to application HAP 1526 subject 868 01:05:51,520 --> 01:06:00,960 to the new signs being installed uh being installed not being internally 869 01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:05,039 illuminated. Moved by Councelor Riml, seconded by councelor Herbert. 870 01:06:02,799 --> 01:06:10,880 » Questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 871 01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:15,520 » The fifth relates to the property at 519 Talbot Street. Motion that reads that 872 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:19,760 report MHC1 1326 relating to heritage alteration permit 519 Talbet Street be 873 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:23,599 received for information and further that council issue a heritage alteration 874 01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:29,440 permit for the property at 519 Talbot Street relating to application HAP1626 875 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:36,240 subject to stucco not being used as an exterior cladding. Moved by 876 01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:40,720 councelor Gibson. Seconded by councelor Raml. 877 01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:43,720 » Further questions or comments? Councelor Clark, 878 01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:49,359 » is that stuckle going to be at the front of the was it going to be at the front 879 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:52,240 of the building or the back of the building? 880 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:56,720 » Back. >> Mr. Pilly. 881 01:06:54,559 --> 01:07:02,079 » Yeah. Through your worship, the uh proposal was um for covering the second 882 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:06,400 and third levels of the rear elevation with stuckle, including a door that's 883 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:09,680 going to be replaced >> at the rear. Right. 884 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:16,960 » At the rear. Correct. So why why would we care whether it's 885 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:21,119 stuckle or or brick at the back of a building? I I think we've had other 886 01:07:18,799 --> 01:07:26,000 repairs done on Tala Street where stuckle has been used and it's been 887 01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:31,680 approved. to my to my knowledge um through your 888 01:07:29,359 --> 01:07:36,000 worship to my knowledge um stuckle has generally been a type of material that 889 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:40,799 the committee has not supported in the past particularly at the front but even 890 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:45,760 at the back um it's not one that's often re uh even suggested but and I believe 891 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:50,000 the committee has been fairly consistent in terms of not supporting it as a as a 892 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:54,400 preferred material type it's not doesn't seem to be consistent with um with the 893 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:59,920 policies of the uh heritage conservation district which is why They um I believe 894 01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:03,240 made the exception of excluding that type of material. 895 01:08:03,359 --> 01:08:12,960 » Counter Gibson. >> However, when it came to Lockwood Books 896 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:18,480 um back entrance, they'd have the stuckco. So, they're able to do that on 897 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:22,960 their building, but we can't allow it on this building. And my concern is is that 898 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:26,960 they're having to look for heritage bricking. it's going to delay and 899 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:32,719 construction season is almost done even if they even found the bricking. So, I'm 900 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:36,960 just I I I yeah I just I just uh I just cannot 901 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:40,960 agree to uh their decision here. Unfortunately, I am going to for one 902 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:45,279 time I'm going to actually say I'm not agreeing to this at all. I I would like 903 01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:49,839 to change or make a motion or something that cladding that they can do the 904 01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:57,040 stuckle exterior because uh I just don't want the this to be delayed anymore. And 905 01:08:53,199 --> 01:09:01,279 I just feel if one property owner can do it on their building and I think it was 906 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:05,120 just done like two years ago maybe last year or the year before. Why is it all 907 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,679 of a sudden it's not allowed on this building? 908 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:11,120 » Uh Mr. Clerk, I know you're going to help us who has to have move the motion 909 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,520 or amend the motion please. >> That's correct. back to your worship. We 910 01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:18,239 do have a main motion on the floor right now. So, if there is a member that wants 911 01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:21,359 to move an amending motion um and it sounds like councelor Gibson may be 912 01:09:19,759 --> 01:09:27,359 amendable to that. Then it would be an amending motion to strike the language 913 01:09:24,719 --> 01:09:31,520 um subject to stucco not being used and as an exterior cladding and that would 914 01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:37,679 then open things up for the applicant. So, councelor Gibson, would you be 915 01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:42,719 willing to move? Do we have a seconder? Council clerk, 916 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:45,719 we take discussion on the amended motion. 917 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:54,239 Look, I'm I'm going to point out that this building is being repaired because 918 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:58,159 of a fire in the building beside it, and I'd like them not to go much longer 919 01:09:55,920 --> 01:10:02,080 without having their business operating. I'm not here to always overrule the 920 01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:06,560 heritage committee, and we seldom have done it. But I think in this case, while 921 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:11,440 there's still another whole lot beside that has to be rebuilt, we can make this 922 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:16,560 amendment to this one project and this one report so that um a great business 923 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:19,920 in the downtown of St. Thomas can get back open and get running again. This is 924 01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:24,320 the URI building that we're talking about. So, I'm going to I'm going to 925 01:10:22,239 --> 01:10:28,080 vote for with the amended motion. Councelor Taylor, 926 01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:32,560 » I'm just trying to understand and I I agree with what has been said here about 927 01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:37,199 the um cladding that's here, but the brick work 928 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:42,400 doesn't look that bad. Yeah, it's dirty. Yeah, it's yellow brick, but I'm I'm 929 01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:45,280 confused as to what what the problem is. Is they want to 930 01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:50,480 close in a window or something like that, so it has to be 931 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:54,640 a special heritage brick that's brought brought in. I mean, I think that the 932 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:59,679 brick could probably be sand blasted or clean, but I I'm looking at the photos 933 01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:05,360 here and I don't understand the brick is not falling down. The brick doesn't seem 934 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:10,320 to be deteriorating. So, what what is the concern with the municipal heritage 935 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:17,520 committee as to the fact that it needs to be fixed to such an extent of 936 01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:21,440 » some sort of a covering. So, anyway, I I don't understand what's wrong with it. I 937 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:27,440 I may ask clue, but my my understanding of it is because I've had had some 938 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:30,960 discussions is is that it's more expedience. We'd like to get they'd like 939 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:34,640 to get the project done. They've suggested a certain way to do it. The 940 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:39,120 heritage committee has said no, we no longer allow that to happen. I guess all 941 01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:45,040 I'm asking for is an exception in this one case so that we can um you know as 942 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:48,239 you will let's let's get this project on the road and going instead of waiting 943 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:54,640 another month for another heritage committee meeting Lou am I far off with 944 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:58,640 what I've just said >> through your worship no I I haven't had 945 01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:02,960 direct conversations with the in this case so right to you but 946 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:06,640 » I have so further discussion on the amended 947 01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:10,719 motion Seeing none, all those in favor of the 948 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:16,080 amended motion. Are there any opposed to the amended motion? Noted. Um, so we 949 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:21,679 will let the heritage committee know that on this one report, we've overruled 950 01:12:18,159 --> 01:12:24,640 them. Next, through your worship, just to clarify 951 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:27,199 that we voted on the amendment amended motion, but we still have the main 952 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:33,920 motion on the floor that would strike the language to you to um 953 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:36,560 not require stucco. So we'll have to have a a final vote on the 954 01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:39,840 » great >> main motion. 955 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:43,920 » Okay. So on the main motion, further discussion, seeing none, all those in 956 01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:48,400 favor. So we want to pass that main motion. Am I correct, Mr. Clerk? Or 957 01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:52,080 » that's correct. So if council does vote to vote all in favor or to carry this by 958 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:55,280 majority, then the main motion would pass and then we'd be able to advise the 959 01:12:53,679 --> 01:13:00,320 heritage committee and the applicant. >> Thank you. Okay. With that knowing, all 960 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:04,159 those in favor? Are there any opposed? Carried. 961 01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:09,360 Thank you. Your worship. Final heritage alteration permit deals with uh 452 to 962 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:14,640 456 Talbet Street. Motion that reads the report MHC1 1426 relating to heritage 963 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:18,080 alteration permit 452 to 456 Talba Street be received for information and 964 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:22,480 further that council issue a heritage alteration permit for the property at 965 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:26,960 452 to 456 Talbot Street relating to application HAP 1726 with the 966 01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:32,000 understanding that consideration be given to an interpretive display of the 967 01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:37,520 existing mural. Moved by councelor Gibson, seconded by councelor Riml. 968 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:42,080 » Questions or comments on this report? Seeing none, all those in favor. Are 969 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:46,960 there any opposed? That's carried. >> Worship. Few items of communication 970 01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:51,040 tonight. Uh the first item relates to uh National Disability Employment Awareness 971 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:54,719 Month. request has been received from Michael Cibba, Ontario Disability 972 01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:59,120 Employment Network, that council proclaim October 2026 as National 973 01:13:57,440 --> 01:14:02,960 Disability Employment Awareness Month in the city of St. Thomas, and that the 974 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:09,520 jumbo monument be lit in purple and blue on October 15, 2026. Motion that reads 975 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:13,280 that council proclaim October 2026 as National Disability Employment Awareness 976 01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:17,600 Month in the city of St. Thomas. and further that the jumbo monument be lit 977 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:22,239 in purple and blue on October 15, 2026 for light it up for national disability 978 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:27,679 employment awareness. Moved by councelor Taylor, seconded by councelor Gibson. 979 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:33,840 » Questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 980 01:14:31,199 --> 01:14:37,520 » Thank you. Worship. The next item, uh, the a joint statement has been received 981 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:41,760 from Morgan Griffin, chair, Catfish Creek Conservation Authority, John 982 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:45,600 Cheliner II, chair Grand River Conservation Authority, Todd Noble, 983 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:49,760 chair Kettle Creek Conservation Authority, and Doug Bruntton, chair 984 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:53,520 Longpoint Region Conservation Authority, regarding the work of the transition 985 01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:58,280 committee for the Amalgamated Eastern Lake Erie Regional Conservation 986 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,280 Authority. 987 01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:04,640 The next item relates to the Kettle Creek Conservation Authority draft 988 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:08,719 budget. A letter has been received from Todd Noble, chair, Kettle Creek 989 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:15,159 Conservation Authority, regarding the authorities's 2027 draft budget and 990 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,159 municipal levy aortionment. 991 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:24,640 Last item comm of communication uh your worship uh relates to Taco House Company 992 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:28,159 at 546 Talbot Street. An application has been made to the Alcohol and Gaming 993 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:32,640 Commission of Ontario by the Taco House Company for a liquor license for its 994 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:37,120 indoor area at 546 Talbet Street, St. Thomas. At this time, council may make 995 01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:41,320 recommend uh representation to the commission concerning this application. 996 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:51,840 Moving on to items of unfinished business tonight. Any items? 997 01:15:48,159 --> 01:15:55,280 » Any items of unfinished business? Any items of new business? 998 01:15:53,679 --> 01:15:59,040 » I've got a bunch. Great. Councelor Baldwin Sans. Councelor Herbert. I've 999 01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:04,239 got one. >> Thank you very very much. There is an 1000 01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:08,960 item that is one of my passion projects. The Elvin St. Thomas drowning prevention 1001 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:15,920 coalition speak um teaching swimming in this community for over 40 plus years on 1002 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:20,320 how to keep young people, old people, everyone how to be safe around the 1003 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:25,920 water. There is an event that will be happening this Saturday at JC Pool and 1004 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:30,159 it's about prevention, education, and awareness. And I was hoping hoping that 1005 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:34,960 uh Adrian would be able to give us a few more details. Thank you. 1006 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:39,120 » You're up. uh through your worship to council. Uh as Lori me or as councelor 1007 01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:43,920 Baldman Sans mentioned, the National Drowning Prevention Week is coming up 1008 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:47,280 running July 19th to 25th. And the Elgen County Drowning Prevention Coalition is 1009 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:52,800 inviting the community to join them for a free public swim on Saturday, July 1010 01:16:49,679 --> 01:16:57,679 18th from 1:30 p.m. to 400 p.m. at JC's Pool located at 93 Increment Street to 1011 01:16:55,520 --> 01:17:01,199 promote water safety. Uh this event is aimed at raising awareness through 1012 01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:04,880 community education and outdoor water smart tips. This is a great opportunity 1013 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:08,400 to enjoy the pool while promoting the importance of water safety in our 1014 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:14,640 community. >> Great. Thank you. Any any others from 1015 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:18,320 yours from you, Lori? Councelor Herbert. >> Thank you, worship. I actually have 1016 01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:22,480 three uh I would bring up the the first one I bring up. I think most of us got 1017 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:28,400 the letter about uh creating a memorial tree or small memorial within Waterworks 1018 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:31,840 Parks. And um I I thought it was a good idea, but I don't know the rules or 1019 01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:36,640 bylaws for it. So I forwarded it on to Adrian and if Adrian if you could make a 1020 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:39,920 comment on it please. >> Through your worship to council. At this 1021 01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:44,080 point staff haven't had an opportunity to fully evaluate the proposal. We need 1022 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:47,760 to look at the capital costs ongoing maintenance requirements partnership 1023 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:52,400 expectations and potential funding sources before providing a 1024 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:57,760 recommendation. Um if council is interested in pursuing the concept, we 1025 01:17:54,320 --> 01:18:02,159 can bring a report back um that would provide the information to consider. Can 1026 01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:04,719 we add that to unfinished business, city manager? 1027 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:09,600 » Okay, great. >> Thank you. I'll second uh through to 1028 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:13,440 through the worship. Uh I've had quite a number of people ask me about are the 1029 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:18,719 signs returning to Pinfor Park that used to be there and uh we've got new ones 1030 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:22,159 there. So I gave a quick comment to Adrian and she's going to comment on 1031 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:26,000 that too tonight about what happening to the signs if it's in discussion or not 1032 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:30,080 in discussion about returning. So I'll turn over to Adrien. Thank you. 1033 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:33,600 Now, through your worship to council, this topic has come up a few times in 1034 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:38,880 the last couple of years. So, the uh wooden sign that the public's referring 1035 01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:43,920 to um was essentially rotten and so we have preserved it within our parks 1036 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:49,280 buildings uh to keep it for for um history reasons but or historical 1037 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:53,840 reasons, but um that sign can't be uh reinstalled due to the state that it's 1038 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:57,600 in. Uh so the current sign is just a placeholder to show the address because 1039 01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:05,760 a lot of people struggle with finding Pennor Park. Um so I have brought to 1040 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:11,360 council um at least once through capital budget planning uh an idea for a new 1041 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:16,960 sign. Um but uh unfortunately the funding was not approved. Um I've since 1042 01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:21,280 gotten um additional sign quotes that were cheaper than what I had originally 1043 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:25,760 uh requested through capital. So that can certainly come back at budget time. 1044 01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:30,400 Um and I mean I would love to pursue that project. So uh it will definitely 1045 01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:34,159 be part of the the request for budget this coming year. 1046 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:38,719 » Super. Yep. Thank you. And my third comment is uh most of us are just 1047 01:19:36,719 --> 01:19:44,159 finishing our transportation study with the consultant and he's asked a lot of 1048 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:51,600 questions and for sure it's in our master plan where we know we have to re 1049 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:56,400 do some revision on it and um uh he in informed us we're probably our budget's 1050 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:59,360 half of what anybody else's and my comment was well maybe they're working 1051 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:03,520 longer hours maybe they have a bigger capital budget operational etc. But I 1052 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:07,600 did ask him, and this is the question I'm asking. I said, 'When would it be 1053 01:20:05,679 --> 01:20:10,560 ready for us to do something with maybe this year? And he said, "No, it's 1054 01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:14,880 probably not going to happen till next January or next January with a new 1055 01:20:12,719 --> 01:20:19,199 council." I mean, that's five months from now. Is there not something we 1056 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:22,719 could do now or do we have to wait till the final report comes in to us and 1057 01:20:21,440 --> 01:20:27,199 council in January? >> Well, thank you. I'll I'll ask staff, 1058 01:20:24,719 --> 01:20:30,880 but I would think that we that's why we bring in a consultant to talk to us 1059 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:34,640 through the transportation master plan or transit master plan so that when we 1060 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:38,719 make the decision, we're making it with great knowledge and great forward 1061 01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:41,280 thinking instead of just making one and then saying, "Let's change it five 1062 01:20:40,159 --> 01:20:45,360 months from now." But he said it would be up to probably the new council to 1063 01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:49,280 make it. Well, hypothetically, if you had eight new counselors and they say, 1064 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:53,040 "Hey, we don't want to re we don't want to we want to review it." God, it goes 1065 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:56,719 on another six months. Anyway, I just wondered if something would be done this 1066 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,960 year and the assumption is it's next year. 1067 01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:02,000 So, >> well, that was my question. 1068 01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:06,159 » We continue to do things on transit. As a matter of fact, the Middle Sex 1069 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:11,120 Connects has just added a a great deal more access to St. Thomas using that 1070 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:16,719 transit system. But when you're looking at something as big as our transit 1071 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:20,080 system, um I I I learned years ago, Jim, I can't answer hypothetical questions. 1072 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:25,280 eight other people might make a different decision, but um let's we 1073 01:21:23,679 --> 01:21:29,840 brought an expert in to give us this type of guidance as to what the transit 1074 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:34,880 system should look like. Um if you'd like why are we doing it if we're not 1075 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:38,239 going to use the process? Um city manager, help with me with that one. 1076 01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:42,800 » Sure. Uh thank you your worship. Um staff can uh inquire with the consultant 1077 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:45,920 to uh check on the timelines on the transit master plan and ensure that 1078 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:49,360 they're meeting their contractual obligations and also just make sure that 1079 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:54,000 we bring some update reports to council as we learn more 1080 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:57,360 » further new business. Councelor Clark and councelor Rhimo. G we're all full of 1081 01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:02,000 new business tonight. >> Thanks worship. I I would like to 1082 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:05,600 nominate uh Annette Barry for a civic award. Maybe we could do that in in 1083 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:11,520 September when school starts again. Annette is a teacher at St. Joe's and 1084 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:14,880 she was just recently in the spring uh declared the Canadian champion for Hier 1085 01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:20,480 Rocks. Saw they >> and Hier Rocks is a new competition 1086 01:22:17,199 --> 01:22:26,400 where you um similar to biaons or triathlons but this one is you you run a 1087 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:31,920 kilometer, do a number of exercises, run another kilometer and and it's seven 1088 01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:37,040 different cycles of that. and um she just came back from Sweden in the worlds 1089 01:22:34,159 --> 01:22:43,040 and came in second for women between 60 and 64 years old. So congratulations to 1090 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:47,520 Annette and I hope we can uh award her that award in September. 1091 01:22:44,480 --> 01:22:52,000 » Move that forward. Councelor Riml, 1092 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:58,239 » just u one comment just about the uh transit. I also um you heard the review, 1093 01:22:55,360 --> 01:23:02,560 but when we're talking about reports um one of the issues that they did bring up 1094 01:23:00,239 --> 01:23:07,600 was that the ondemand service in the evening is wildly popular, just really 1095 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:11,120 popular, but there's only one bus driving around the city, you know, to 1096 01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:15,440 try to pick up everybody and take them from A to B, which is, you know, a lot. 1097 01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:19,920 So in the report, if we could get a report even like what would it cost to 1098 01:23:17,199 --> 01:23:24,400 put even one one more bus on for a few hours because it's great that you know 1099 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:28,159 people are using this service um you know could we enhance it just a little 1100 01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:32,560 bit. I know we don't have lots of money but you know 1101 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:36,560 » it's part of the reason for the study >> right so it shows it's needed we'll 1102 01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:40,159 certainly be able to vote as a council to do so. 1103 01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:46,320 » Yeah. Um, so just a couple other things. Just um just kudos to the uh police for 1104 01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:50,560 their fishing uh tournament they had at Pinnhapor Park for the kids. That was 1105 01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:54,400 great. And also to the fire for their water sprays that you have for the kids, 1106 01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:57,360 you know, in this heat. We all should be standing under the the 1107 01:23:55,679 --> 01:24:00,080 » But apparently we're wasting water doing it. So councelor Taylor. 1108 01:23:58,719 --> 01:24:01,920 » Oh yeah. >> Get your bucket out and capture some of 1109 01:24:01,679 --> 01:24:05,679 that. >> There's that 800,000 1110 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:09,440 whatever. Yeah. But anyway, but the kids appreciate it, especially when it's so 1111 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:14,719 hot. And I just had one other question with the council calendar that we 1112 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:19,040 received. Is it possible to have flag raisings, proclamations, open houses, 1113 01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:21,040 some more information on there given that, you know, 1114 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:25,520 » once they've been voted on? Yeah. >> Well, yeah, but not but you know, when 1115 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:28,880 we get an invite to do a flag racing or all those kind of things, even though I 1116 01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:33,920 know it, you know, you wouldn't be able to capture everything, but just to add 1117 01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:38,239 some more information to that calendar. I like that thought. City man, you help 1118 01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:40,560 us with or Mr. Clerk, you'll help us with that. 1119 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:45,040 » Uh, yes, your worship, we can definitely look into that. 1120 01:24:41,679 --> 01:24:49,679 » Thank you. Any other new business? I want to say way to go to the U to 1121 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:54,800 nostalgia nights on Saturday. I mean, nostalgia days. It's no longer nights. 1122 01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:57,920 It used to be, M. Councelor Taylor, remember, supposed to start at four in 1123 01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:03,520 the afternoon. It's now starting at 8 in the morning on on on the day of 1124 01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:08,400 nostalgia nights, right? um and and some car drivers even earlier. But the crowds 1125 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:13,440 on the street and the comments that we were getting about the looks of the 1126 01:25:10,239 --> 01:25:18,080 committee and the of the city itself and um the great work of the uh EDC, the 1127 01:25:16,639 --> 01:25:23,120 tourism people and the downtown development board on running a 1128 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:28,159 incredible program on Saturday in some pretty oppressive heat. Um, I know 1129 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:31,440 Council Herbert and I walked the length of Talbert Street back and forth and he 1130 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:36,880 wouldn't walk on the sun side of the road because of the heat. Um, but but 1131 01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:40,400 uh, you know, way to go. We looked great and those from out of town and a lot of 1132 01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:44,000 people from out of town at Nostalgia Nights because the people who own 1133 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:48,560 classic cars come from just about anywhere. So, um, thank you all. I know 1134 01:25:46,719 --> 01:25:55,040 that a couple of optimists are in the room who who worked at that at the uh at 1135 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:59,440 the the food booth for the optimist and could not have been a cool spot to work. 1136 01:25:57,679 --> 01:26:03,120 So, way to go. Thank you very much for doing that. And for all of the 1137 01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:08,800 counselors, everybody who I saw there, um incredible making our city look good. 1138 01:26:06,639 --> 01:26:13,360 So, we're talking about downtown events. This is another one that's in the books 1139 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:16,000 and went just about as good as it can. So, thank you to everyone. Councelor 1140 01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:19,679 Taylor, >> now that you brought up the Optimist, um 1141 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:23,040 don't forget about the fact that we did have the Optimus Father's Day car show 1142 01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:26,719 in Pinter Park. >> You did. 1143 01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:30,000 » And we uh expanded that tremendously this year because of the weather. I was 1144 01:26:28,639 --> 01:26:33,920 just talking to Adrian just a few minutes ago. How can we expand or double 1145 01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:36,480 the size of Pinter Park because uh people actually had to leave the park 1146 01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:39,520 because there was no place >> to park. 1147 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:44,159 » Well, I couldn't get into the park. Maybe we are secondarily known as the 1148 01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:50,560 classic car capital of Canada. >> Working on it, aren't we? Excellent. 1149 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:53,679 Further new business. Seeing none. >> Thank you, your worship. We have no 1150 01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:57,280 public notices tonight. We do have one notice of motion. Notice of motion has 1151 01:26:55,679 --> 01:27:01,520 been received from councelor Baldwin Sans regarding community and aquatic 1152 01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:06,080 center alternatives. This will return as a business item on August the 10th. 1153 01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:10,320 It's all the matters of open business tonight. Your worship will now move into 1154 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:13,600 a closed session. Motion that reads this meeting be closed to deal with three 1155 01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:17,760 matters of a proposed or pending disposition of land. Chestnut Street and 1156 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:22,800 Third Avenue properties land lease Yarmouth Yards Burwell Road. Two matters 1157 01:27:20,639 --> 01:27:28,000 of a proposed or pending acquisition of land. South Edgeware Road Reconstruction 1158 01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:31,040 Project. Southwestern Public Health. A matter of information explicitly 1159 01:27:29,679 --> 01:27:35,840 supplied in confidence of the municipality by the province of Ontario, 1160 01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:40,880 utility crossing agreement, two labor relations matters, staff overtime 1161 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:44,639 strategies and staffing strategies, two matters of a position, plan, procedure, 1162 01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:48,560 criteria or instruction to be applied to any negotiations carried on to or to be 1163 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:53,120 carried on by or on behalf of the municipality, municipal facilities 1164 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:56,159 planning and St. Thomas Cemetery Board and a personal matter about an 1165 01:27:54,400 --> 01:28:01,199 identifiable individual committee appointment at 6:27 p.m. Moved by 1166 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:04,960 councelor Baldwin Sans seconded by councelor Gibson. 1167 01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:07,920 » Wow. We had a short meeting going till we had to read off all the stuff that 1168 01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:12,320 went is going to happen in close session. But thank you very much, Mr. 1169 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:16,719 Clerk. As I'll normally state before we vote on going into close session, those 1170 01:28:14,639 --> 01:28:21,199 of us are watching at home or the huge crowd in the gallery tonight, um please 1171 01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:25,760 uh we'll be going into close session now. We'll only rise from close session 1172 01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:30,400 to vote on uh those are the things that we we we covered in close session that 1173 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:34,480 can come into open session and then to pass our bylaws afterwards and then 1174 01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:40,239 adjourn the night from there. So, thank you for joining us tonight. Uh on close 1175 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:45,960 session discussion seeing none. All those in favor? Any opposed? We are in 1176 01:28:42,639 --> 01:28:45,960 close session. 1177 01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:58,239 Your worship. We can now reconvene at open session. Motion that reads that 1178 01:28:55,600 --> 01:29:02,960 council now rise from close session at 8:10 PM and further that staff proceed 1179 01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:06,719 as directed on closed item closed session items dealing with Chestnut 1180 01:29:04,639 --> 01:29:11,520 Street and Third Avenue properties, South Edgeware Road Reconstruction 1181 01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:16,560 Project, Burwell Road utility crossing agreement, land lease Yarmouth Yards, 1182 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:21,679 Municipal Facilities Planning, Staff Overtime Strategies, Staffing 1183 01:29:18,639 --> 01:29:27,040 Strategies, St. Thomas Cemetery Board and Southwest Southwestern Public Health 1184 01:29:24,480 --> 01:29:32,560 and further that the close session item dealing with committee appointment be 1185 01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:35,760 considered an open session. Moved by Councelor Gibson, seconded by councelor 1186 01:29:34,480 --> 01:29:40,960 Baldwin Sans. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 1187 01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:44,400 those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. >> Your worship in regards to the uh 1188 01:29:42,639 --> 01:29:50,639 municipal heritage committee appointment and a motion that reads that council now 1189 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:54,000 appoint Nick Eanic to the St. Thomas Municipal Heritage Committee for the 1190 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:58,639 remainder of the council term subject to policy HR0229 1191 01:29:56,159 --> 01:30:00,880 and required training. Moved by councelor Raml seconded by councelor 1192 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:06,560 Taylor. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 1193 01:30:03,199 --> 01:30:10,719 those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. >> Worship. We now have the bylaws. First 1194 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:16,239 motion that Lee be granted to bring in the bylaws. Moved by councelor Herbert. 1195 01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:20,960 Seconded by councelor Baldwin Sans. >> Excellent. Questions or comments? Seeing 1196 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:24,960 none, all those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 1197 01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:29,679 » Your worship. We have a motion moved by councelor Herbert, seconded by councelor 1198 01:30:26,719 --> 01:30:32,560 Baldwin Sans at the bylaws be now read a first time, referred to council in the 1199 01:30:31,199 --> 01:30:36,320 committee of the whole and read a second time. 1200 01:30:34,159 --> 01:30:41,360 » Questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 1201 01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:44,400 » First bylaw, please. >> First bylaw tonight is a bylaw to 1202 01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:48,880 confirm the proceedings of the meeting held on the 13th day of July, 2026. 1203 01:30:47,199 --> 01:30:51,440 » Questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? That's carried. Next 1204 01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:55,120 bylaw, please. >> Second bylaw is a bylaw to delegate 1205 01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:58,080 certain authority during a restricted acts period. 1206 01:30:56,239 --> 01:31:01,360 » Questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? That's carried. Next 1207 01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:05,199 bylaw, please. >> Third bylaw is a bylaw regarding the 1208 01:31:03,199 --> 01:31:08,880 maintenance, repair, or replacement of structures and to provide for the 1209 01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:11,679 recovery of costs by the city of St. Thomas. 1210 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:15,840 » Questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? That's carried. Next 1211 01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:21,520 bylaw, please. Fourth bylaw is a bylaw to amend bylaw 4589 being a bylaw to 1212 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:26,239 revise and consolidate certain bylaws regulating traffic and the parking of 1213 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:29,760 motor vehicles. No parking zones Bonnie Place and Harvest Court. Questions or 1214 01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:33,760 comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? That's carried. Next bylaw. 1215 01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:37,199 » Fifth bylaw is a bylaw to authorize the marin clerk to execute and affix the 1216 01:31:35,440 --> 01:31:41,360 seal of the corporation to a certain agreement between the corporation of the 1217 01:31:38,719 --> 01:31:45,440 city of St. Thomas and his majesty the king in right of the province of Ontario 1218 01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:49,840 as represented by the Minister of Transportation Compensation Agreement 1219 01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:53,120 Woodworth Avenue. Questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? That's 1220 01:31:51,679 --> 01:31:56,880 car. Next bylaw, please. >> Six bylaw is a bylaw to authorize the 1221 01:31:55,199 --> 01:32:01,280 mayor and clerk to execute and affix the seal of the corporation to a declaration 1222 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:03,360 of compliance long-term care service accountability agreement, Valley View 1223 01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:06,480 Home. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 1224 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:10,560 those in favor? That's carried. Next bylaw, please. Seventh bylaw is a bylaw 1225 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:13,760 to authorize the mar and clerk to execute and affix the seal of the 1226 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:18,560 corporation to a declaration of compliance adult day program View home. 1227 01:32:16,719 --> 01:32:22,639 Questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? That's carried. Next 1228 01:32:20,159 --> 01:32:26,239 bylaw. The eth bylaw is a bylaw to authorize the marin clerk to execute and 1229 01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:28,800 affix the seal of the corporation to a certain agreement between the 1230 01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:32,400 corporation of the city of St. Thomas and his majesty the king in right of 1231 01:32:30,719 --> 01:32:35,679 Ontario as represented by the minister of transportation highway 3 utility 1232 01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:38,960 crossing. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none. All 1233 01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:41,679 those in favor? That's carried. Next bylaw, please. 1234 01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:45,280 » Ninth bylaw is a bylaw to authorize the Marin clerk to affix the execute and 1235 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:48,159 affix the seal of the corporation to a certain agreement between the 1236 01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:52,159 corporation of the city of St. Thomas and Canadian National Railway Company 1237 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:56,080 Sanitary Sewer Crossing Major Line. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 1238 01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:58,800 those in favor? That's carried. Next one bylaw, please. 1239 01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:02,000 » 10th bylaw is a bylaw to authorize the Marin clerk to execute and affix the 1240 01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:04,960 seal of the corporation to a certain agreement between the corporation of the 1241 01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:08,000 city of St. Thomas and the Canadian National Railway Company water main 1242 01:33:06,639 --> 01:33:11,120 crossing major line. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 1243 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,920 those in favor? That's carried. Next bylaw, please. 1244 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:17,040 » 11th bylaw is a bylaw to authorize the marin clerk to execute and affix the 1245 01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:20,000 seal of the corporation to a certain agreement between the corporation of the 1246 01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:23,520 city of St. Thomas and his majesty the king and right of Ontario as represented 1247 01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:27,120 by the minister of transportation compensation agreement Burwell Road. 1248 01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:30,880 » Questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? That's carried. Next 1249 01:33:28,639 --> 01:33:36,239 bylaw, please. 12th bylaw is a bylaw to deem part of lot 73 registered plan 1250 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:40,560 number 270 former township of Yarmouth to not be a registered plan of 1251 01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:44,159 subdivision lot 10 for Morrison Drive Kate Robinson counseling file number 1252 01:33:42,480 --> 01:33:47,840 50126 >> questions or comments seeing none all 1253 01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:50,239 those in favor that's carried next bylaw please 1254 01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:53,360 » 13th bylaw is a bylaw to authorize the mayor and clerk to execute and fix the 1255 01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:56,480 seal of the corporation to a certain agreement between the corporation of the 1256 01:33:54,639 --> 01:34:02,320 city of St. Thomas and Walnut Park Incorporated, file number SPC0326, 1257 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:05,520 57 Walnut Street. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 1258 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:09,920 those in favor? That's carry. Next bylaw, please. 14th bylaw is a bylaw to 1259 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:13,440 authorize the mayor and clerk to execute and affix the seal of the corporation to 1260 01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:16,880 a certain agreement between the corporation of the city of St. Thomas 1261 01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:20,320 and Drew Holdings Incorporated. File number SPC0426 1262 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:24,159 8 Hammond Street. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 1263 01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:27,440 those in favor? That's carry. Next by please. 15th bylaw is a bylaw to 1264 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:30,400 authorize the mar and clerk to execute and aff fix the seal of the corporation 1265 01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:34,560 to assert an agreement between the corporation of the city of St. Thomas 1266 01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:39,679 and Faith Faith Baptist Church of St. Thomas file number SPC0626 1267 01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:42,719 345 Fair View Avenue. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 1268 01:34:41,440 --> 01:34:45,440 those in favor? That's carried. Next bylaw, please. 1269 01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:48,400 » 16th bylaw is a bylaw to authorize the mar and clerk to execute and affix the 1270 01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:51,679 seal of the corporation to a certain agreement between the corporation of the 1271 01:34:49,679 --> 01:34:57,679 city of St. Thomas and Heiho Rentals Limited. File number SPC 1625 43954 1272 01:34:56,080 --> 01:35:00,719 Southdale line. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 1273 01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:03,440 those in favor? That's carried. Next bylaw, please. 1274 01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:06,320 » 17th bylaw is a bylaw to authorize the mayor and clerk to execute and affix a 1275 01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:11,520 seal of the corporation to assert anert agreement between the corporation of the 1276 01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:14,320 city of St. Thomas and Dr. Sei Olampon. Uh, health recruitment partnership 1277 01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:17,520 incentive funding. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 1278 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:21,199 those in favor? That's carried. Next bylaw, please. 18th bylaw is a bylaw to 1279 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:23,920 authorize the mayor and clerk to execute and fix a seal of the corporation to a 1280 01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:28,159 certain agreement between the corporation of the city of St. Thomas 1281 01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:30,159 and Dr. Shabuki Eggwim uh health recruitment partnership incentive 1282 01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:33,199 funding. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 1283 01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:35,840 those in favor? That's carried. Next bylaw, please. 1284 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:39,040 » 19th bylaw is a bylaw to authorize the marin clerk to execute and fix a seal of 1285 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:43,440 the corporation to a certain agreement between the corporation of the city of 1286 01:35:40,239 --> 01:35:45,520 St. Thomas and Dr. Zean Chataroo health recruitment partnership incentive 1287 01:35:44,719 --> 01:35:48,719 funding. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 1288 01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:51,360 those in favor. That's carry. Next bylaw, please. 1289 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:54,159 » 20th bylaw is a bylaw to authorize the mayor and clerk to execute and affix a 1290 01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:58,000 seal of the corporation to a certain agreement between the corporation of the 1291 01:35:55,440 --> 01:36:00,159 city of St. Thomas and Dr. Ahmed Osman. Health recruitment partnership incentive 1292 01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:03,280 funding. >> Questions or comments? Seeing none, all 1293 01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:06,480 those in favor? That's carried. Next bylaw, please. 1294 01:36:04,239 --> 01:36:09,600 » 21st and final bylaw of the evening. A bylaw to revise provisions for the 1295 01:36:08,239 --> 01:36:13,520 application of late penalties and interest to property taxes in the 2026 1296 01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:19,280 taxation year. >> Questions or comments? 1297 01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:23,440 All those in favor? It's carried. Your worship I rise and report the successful 1298 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:26,920 passing of the 21 bylaws. >> All from today. 1299 01:36:27,679 --> 01:36:34,159 » Your worship. We have a motion moved by councelor Herbert, seconded by uh 1300 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:37,600 councelor Baldwin Sans that the report of council in the committee of the whole 1301 01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:41,440 on the bylaws be received and adopted. The same be read a third time engrossed 1302 01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:46,960 signed by the mayor and clerk, sealed and numbered. 1303 01:36:44,639 --> 01:36:50,880 Questions or comments? Seeing none, all those in favor? Any opposed? Carried. 1304 01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:55,760 » Thank you. Worship. Final item tonight is adjournment. That we do now adjourn 1305 01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:59,119 at 8:18 p.m. Moved by councelor Baldwin Sand, seconded by councelor Gibson. 1306 01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:05,920 » Questions or comments? Councelor Herbert? Seeing none. All in favor? Any 1307 01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,920 opposed? carried.