Good evening, everyone. Thank you very much for coming. We just want to start at 6, so we make sure that everybody is here on time and leave on time. Also, we don't want to take too much of your time. My name is Rabbi Abdullah. I'm the Assistant City Engineer with the City of Stillwater. I've been with the City since March of 2018. I have with me today. Just if I roll, he's the deputy director of the public work. John Durek, he's the senior tech with the
engineering department, Dylan, he's a technician with the engineering department, and we have
Andrew Cohen, he's the National Resource, anything have to do with the boulevard trees and
stuff like that, he will be taking care of that and taking questions on that.
The city of Salad has started in...
what does that mean?
So the city of Stirlara started in 1994 with a program to improve all the city projects
or the city streets to have concrete, curb and gutter and have the two minutes section of
about four inches and gravel, about six inches and make sure that we have storm sewer treatment
and storm sewer manholes and sewer system we update it and also the water infrastructure.
are we check it out and make sure that everything is working properly.
Every year, the city tackles between three and a half to four and a half miles between
Milan overlay and full reconstruct.
The Milan overlay normally, we do that after 15 years, or I'm sorry, after 20 to 25 years
from doing a reconstruct project, so, and since that if we do your area, the full reconstruct
and about 20 to 25 years we come back and do a million overlay which is only taking about an
inch and a half of the two menus and putting a new layer and taking care of there is any damaged
kerb or sidewalk or storm sewer but for your area it will be a full reconstruct the streets that we
choose in this year. We will be taking out the pavement and the full pavement and we will be adding
concrete, carbon gutter and also we'll make sure that there is enough storm storm sewer infrastructure
to take the capacity of the storms that we're behaving nowadays and also to check the sewer system.
We televised the sewer system and we check the water, main and water services.
If they are galvanized, if there is lead, then we will make sure that they are being replaced.
The streets are normally chosen, we have a criteria that we follow and we have a chart that
shows every street in the city, what the great is between 1 and 10, 10 is being best or
just being reconstructed and down to 1. And we chose streets from that chart and then also
there is any drainage problem, there are special projects that comes up that needs special attention
and also requests from property owners. Sometimes they bring to our attention that we need
this street to be worked on and then we'll take it into consideration also.
The process normally starts with an authorization to prepare a feasibility report by the city council.
Normally, this year, we started this process in August, and I will show you the schedule at the end of the presentation.
And then we started with gathering the information, all the previous projects that were done in the area.
If we have any Asbels, previous Asbels, if we have notes from, if we have notes from residents, calling on stuff, then we include all that.
And just on the side notes, this presentation will be on the city website and this session is recorded
and will be on the city website also. So anybody can go back and check it out also. So
you don't need to take pictures or anything if you don't want to. You can just go back to the city website and
check it out. Then we do a televisation of the sanitary sewer and make sure that the main lines are
There is any cracks or any damages, then we make sure that we take care of that at this
time.
We evaluate the water infrastructure like...
As said, public, and then we'll have the public neighborhood information meeting, which is this one here.
After that, we do the preliminary engineering, engineering, design and estimate.
And we present the feasibility report to the city council, and then the preparation of the final plan and specification.
The project normally we have a budget for it, the city, a locate certain amount of the cell bonds,
and we have that amount of funding for the project.
But normally we start with a certain area that we choose for the feasibility report.
And as we go along and we do that design and we come up with the quantities,
then we might end up taking some street of the original scope of the project sort of say.
The approval for the project like that will start with the present of a present of the
feasibility report to the city council and conduct the public hearing which will be in January
2025.
So after this meeting we will start doing the preliminary design and we will present it to the
city council on January 2025 and there will be another public hearing at that meeting with
city council, if anybody want to come to the city council and voice themselves if they have any concerns or if they have any questions then they can say that that time also.
If the project is proceed at the that public hearing meeting then the next step will be the final design of plans and specification and we do the advertisement for bits and award the contract by city council.
Notification after that will be procedural and adhered via newspaper and website updates and email notification and letters.
The construction takes place during the summer of 2025.
The final assessment hearing is in the fall of 2025.
assessment will be payable November of 2025 or put on real estate taxes for 10 to 15 years starting in 2026.
So the final November 15 is the cutout if you want to pay the full assessment that you will be charged for the project without any interest.
After that, automatically you don't need to do anything, it will automatically go into your taxes, the city will send all these assessment to the county, and you will see him on your taxes every year, spread between 10 to 15 years depending on the amount, the amount less than $10,000 than it will spread over 10 years, if it is more than that, it will be spread over 15 years.
with a simple interest rate last year for 2024 was 4.26 percent and that is annually on the balance.
Not a compound, not anything.
So if you have a $5,000 balance, you just multiplied that by 4.26 and that is the interest that goes over the year.
The communication, we start the construction of the email on regular basis.
So the first letter we send out after we award the contract to a contractor.
We send the letter out to everybody notifying them that we have a project.
We have a contractor that was awarded the contract.
And the work will start. We'll put the date on it.
And then that will be the last letter we'll send out after that everything will be every two weeks or every three weeks or even every one.
Once a week, whenever is needed, whenever there's a change in the project that requires sending an notification to people will send an email out,
notifying you of what's going on, what is the next step, what is the important step coming up.
And of course, these updates will be on the city website also and you can call the engineering department at any time and we can send you a copy also.
For this year, these are the streets that were chosen chosen for reconstruct yellow is the mill and overlay.
Last year we did the south end of liberty and this year we're doing the north part of liberty area and then the red streets are,
I don't know if you can see my pointer, but these are the streets that were chosen for the reconstruct.
Elm Street was added in the very end, and I'm pretty sure this Elm would not be on the project this year for sure.
Other streets we're still looking into it, but the budget is getting tight already, so we know for sure that Elm Street is not going to be in there.
These are the streets that are included in the project, the left are the northern overlay, and the right side are the reconstructed projects, reconstruct streets.
As a general information, the construction project may include utility improvement, like water, sanitary sewer, storm sewer, as well as gas, electric, telephone and cable TV.
We not fry all these people of the project going on.
So if there is anything any cable, any electricity, any gas,
this will be the time for them to update their utilities also.
This is not included in the assessment.
Any private utility is not included in the assessment
that is on the utility itself.
It's important to know that the project will be very loud
and there will be heavy equipment, so there will be a vibration industry,
there will be vibration in the houses.
We encourage you to make sure that if you have any valuable hangings on the wall,
if you don't want to break in or fall and just take them out for the period and stone away.
If you're afraid that there might be cracks on your walls,
we encourage you to take pictures and then pictures before and after.
and if there is, if you think that there is something happen because of the vibration, because
of the street project, you just have a documentation for that and you can present it at the time
for any damage or repair. Until now, we don't have any of that happen since 1994, but it is just
something we like to mention so that you know. After this presentation, you can contact any of us.
If you have any issues that you want to address, whether it's a problem with your water service,
sanitary sewer service, if it's backing up or neutralizing, if you have drainage problem in front
of your property, if there is tree trimming of branches over streets or other utilities,
and if there is any special events also you have going on in the summer,
would try to accommodate you as much as possible.
If you have a wedding or graduation, we'll try to accommodate these things.
Gride cells, we kind of skip on it, that's up to you, that's not really important.
And there's special medical issues, hardship.
We really encourage you to let us know if there is any special need to have access to your driveway.
We want to have your address.
We'll make sure that the contractor is aware of it.
So you will have 24 hour, seven days a week, access to your driveway, and you don't have
any issues getting in and out.
If you have any driveway problems, also we'll try to solve them at this time.
It is important also to know that if you have any improvement that you did in front of your
property in the right of way, it is your responsibility to relocate this.
If you have a garden, if you have like a small retaining wall or if you have private improvements
like include landscaping, fences, irrigation system or dark fences, some drains.
We encourage you, we'll give you a certain time.
We tell you that the contractor will be in this area.
We encourage you to remove them if you want to keep them.
If you have certain plans, you want to keep them.
It's a good idea to remove them, put them aside and when the project is done then you come
but I'm back. We really be thankful if you have a irrigation system to mark it out, mark all the
heads that you have in the irrigation system, at least so we know. And for sure, there's going
to get hit. There is no way that the road that they'll remove the curb and get into the
boulevard without hitting the irrigation system. We've been having this problem all along.
Last year, I think we had 100 properties that we had a irrigation system that we had issues with.
So, we encourage you to mark it up when you see that the contractors coming to your area just take white flags from Menarzo or anywhere,
and just put them on the heads and this way will eliminate at least a partial of what the damage could be done.
The construction schedule and staging, construction will be staged on segments as much as possible
to minimize impact on residents and businesses.
So the contractor is not going to come and open all the roads at one time and have a mess
in his hand and now our hand.
So it will be maybe one or two streets.
he'll try to, at least, remove the pavement, get it ready, drive a ball and then he can move
to the next section and remove the pavement and get it drive a ball enough for a graph.
So that it is not a real mess all over the place. So we'll try to stage it. So it's convenient for everybody.
And the communication, if you have any issues that will be either through newsletter or city website, or you can flag any of the staff that will be onsite.
John and Dylan will be on site every day from morning until as long as the contractor is
outworking, one of them will be out there. Maybe not right in front of your property, but they
will be on the site one location or another. So if you have any issues, you can flag any city
trucks moving in the area and they can either answer your question or directly to the right person
to answer it. And the contractor is normally
very friendly with residents when it comes to answering their needs.
So you can flag any worker also.
Not all of them know what's going on.
So sometimes they might give you wrong information.
Don't normally.
If you have any questions or concern,
get a different person to answer you or get a hall of me
or hall of anybody in the city that can answer it properly for you.
It is important to also be patient.
The schedule will be impacted by the weather.
I mean, we always have rains and stuff going on.
So the contractors schedule to do certain work in your area for a certain day.
And then all the sudden there's rain coming up and he's working in a different area.
Get delayed over there. He's going to finish that and then move to your area.
So your area will be delayed.
This is normal, it is not because of lack of anything else, it's just because the weather does not cooperate sometimes.
So we just have to be patient with it and understand that delays could happen.
And delays could happen for a number of things, delay of material delivery, of availability of labor, of availability of material and the start.
So delays happen, we just ask for your patients through the process.
Project funding and assessment, water service replacement up to last year was the 100 percent responsibility of the property owner to replace it.
We will replace it and you will have the option to either hire your own contractor to replace it.
If it is galvanized or led, if it is copper, you are okay with that. You don't have to deal with it.
This year, the Department of Health started the process of replacing basically all the services.
So we don't have the OK yet from the Department of Health to replace all these services.
And this is might affect the streets that we will be working on.
Maple and Hickory have about 55 galvanized services.
So if we cannot get that funding this year, we might not be able to do these two because it doesn't make sense that we will do it and charge you for it and then come in two years then funding will be available and then instead of you paying out of pocket 5,000 or 10,000 dollars then it is something that the state will be funding for it.
we're working through that, we haven't initialed note that we might be able to get it yet through
this year. So we might work on areas that does not have water services and we will be notifying
you whether maple or hickory will be on the project or not. Yes sir.
We have the meeting with
them early January and we hope we can get something out of them by there.
Other than that,
The streets, curb and gutter sidewalk, sanitary sewer, water main, and storm sewer, there is a special assessment, normally reconstruction is 70% access to property owners and 30% is carried by the city.
Millen overlays 80% access to property owner and 20% is paid by the city.
Like I said funding for private utilities, gas, electric phone and cable TV, these are by
utility companies, these are not included in the assessment.
The special assessment process is according to Minnesota Statue chapter 429 and city assessment
policy.
We normally use the uniform fair and benefit the property and we do appraisal report to verify
benefit.
So the state statute allows the cities to assess the properties that improvements on the streets are happening.
Standing, abutting their properties. This is in the states that you. But we cannot assess the properties
more than the benefit that the work is being providing to the property. And this is why we
hire an appraisal and we randomly select some properties that are small in sizes and big in sizes
in the middle and they will do their analysis and they'll do their assessment and come up with
a value that this kind of work will be benefiting these property owners by this much. Now,
if the work at the end is more than that, when we do the calculation, even if it is more than
that value, then we cannot assess you more than what that appraised value is. So that appraised value
just an example comes at like last year come on the areas where we're working on came up to
be to be a $10,000. The work was about $12,500. We could not assess them the $12,500. We were limited
by what the Fraser was a $10,000 and this was only in one area, it's not the whole area. But generally,
the reconstruct your area, we're looking at it all as one area, so everybody will be assessed
the same amount. The assessment is calculated calculation would be on a unit base. Corner
lots would be half unit per side improved and commercial and city properties would be calculated
on a linear footage. So we do the calculation come up with the total value or the total
amount that the cost will be for the project and then we look at the total linear footage
funding the streets and we divide that amount by that linear footage and that will give us a cost per
linear foot of the improvement. Any commercial properties and the city properties will be assessed on a linear
footage. So we multiply that linear footage by whatever commercial linear footage or city have and that will be
their assessment. Whatever is left from that will be divided on the number of unit on the project.
So, if there is 100 unit, that is not necessary mean 100 property, it could be 110, because the corner
loss are only half units.
So, if you live on, I'll just give an example, if you live on, let's say, Maple and William,
the corner of Maple and William, you will be assessed half unit on Maple and half unit
on William.
If we end up doing only William, then you will get assessed half unit and then when we do
Maple then you will get assessed the other half. The other properties mid-block will be assessed
a full unit. So everybody will be assessed the same amount.
The assessment for 2025 will be determined
by city council like I said in November when we do all the work and we do all the calculation
and we have all the final costs from the contractor. We'll present it to the city council and
be a public hearing at the time also and everybody can come to the council meeting and if you have
any issues again or you're going to voice yourself or if you're going to you know challenge
that assessment you will have a process there's a process also to that and you can go through that
system. We normally get update property on our list from Washington County
record and sometimes they are lacking if anybody saw or moved in within the last month
I would encourage that, just give him a note, sometimes takes up to six months for Washington
County to update their addresses, and we don't receive him in time, and it's happened
in the past.
If you know anybody in your neighbor that moved in lately, just let him know, hey, this
is going on, sometimes the previous owner will give us a call and let us know that, hey,
he moved on, and there's a new person, so we know we go around and look for them, but not
all the time.
So we might lose some people that are not getting notified.
Assessment may be taxed,
there is a lot of revised in 2004,
and you can reference the IRS publication 530.
I don't have much information on that.
You can search it out and you can find out.
The construction process,
we start with a private utility work.
Then we do the tree trimming and removal of necessary.
we will remove trees in the boulevard if they are affecting the sidewalk or they are affecting
the curb. If you see sidewalk in your area that is heaved because of roots then we will come and
the side and we will cut the roots and then
And roll, check the tree and, you know, assess whether it's going to survive, or it's going to be, or it will die, or if it's going to be a hazard, with the wind might fall. So we will, might end up taking it out.
And the city have adopted a new policy that we are not putting any new trees in the boulevard between the sidewalk and the curb, because it's causing a lot of damage to curb and sidewalk.
and it's costing a lot of money to do their repairs all the time.
So if we take a tree, we're not going to put it back.
If you want to put it back, by all means you can, but again,
there are a certain type of trees that you can choose from,
that the root system does not affect the sidewalk
and the curb, and you can choose from them.
But the city is not going to plan it.
What I mean is that you can do yourself.
Then after that, we do remove and replace damage carbon gutter for your area.
There is no carbon gutter right now or there is the brick carbon gutter or betuminous.
So everything is coming out and new carbon gutter is going in.
We will do underground utility work, subgrade compaction and gravel, base placement.
We install the carbon gutter and then install new concrete dryways and apron.
We'll lay the first lift of the two minutes pavement and then install new
the two minutes driveway and then we'll do the restoration of Boulevard and maybe the final
lift of the two minutes will be the next day depending on how much underground work we will
be doing. A lot of times we excuse me if we do a lot of water services or storm or sewer
water then we make sure that we leave the final lift to the next year just in case there are some
spots. There are some cracks happening in the base layer. We can still come up, catch it up,
and fix it before we put the final lift. So we don't have cracks in the final lift. One thing we need,
I need to mention is that the city adopts the policy of having street width about 32 feet. So a lot of
streets in your area are wider than 32 feet. We are going to, most of the places we're
going to reduce this, the width to limit them to 32 feet. If it is narrower, we might
keep it as narrow as it is now or we have enough wider way and ball of art. We might make
it 32 feet. But that will save you also money and save the city money. There is no basic
need for the streets to be 44 feet where I've been 32 feet all over the city is enough for
parking and two lane of traffic going through. So that's kind of a city I wouldn't say a policy
but that's a city goal to have the streets within 32 feet wide.
The reconstruct projects normally
will be getting into the base layer of the of the streets and the water shed, whether it's a brown
street watershed or if it's a middle-scent cry management organization or the
Kerniolian watershed, they all require that we will have a stormwater treatment
if we get into the base of the street. So if we remove the two minutes, if we remove
the gravel, we are in the base of the street, then we will need to do a treatment for
storm sewer system. We might end up adding rain gardens. If you want a rain garden, this is a good. I
had time now to let us know. We will check if it is suitable for a rain garden then you will put a
rain garden in front of your property. Other than that if we couldn't find any volunteers, we might end up just
doing it ourselves to meet the requirement for the watershed. And also we might end up putting
some other systems that we will try to mitigate, to be able to meet the requirement of the watershed.
And it is not only the watershed requirement, it is the city requirement itself also.
So anybody coming with a new development is the city in cooperation with the watershed.
We normally have a stormwater treatment so we can keep maintaining the ponds and the trees and the stream's clean.
This last said doesn't apply to you mainly for the millen overlay area that we will do a curb cut for a rain garden.
But in your area, we might be looking into some stone, like I said, stone sewer management,
and we might have rain gardens in the area, and I'm pretty sure you also
may go with the rain garden what it is one.
All right, it's just this mold.
Depression in the boulevard in front of your property, where the stormwater gets into it, and then there will be flowers and pollinators, and just if you go around into probably eagle-rich area, there is a lot of them over there, you can see it. I think on all of, we have some, right, hundred or two.
Yeah, and welcome's also there's a couple of them. You can see it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So there are just some people like him, some don't. I mean, it is if you like it, if you have the time,
you can clean it up and make it look nice. It's really nice something nice in front of the property.
We're not putting bump-outs, they don't like the bump-outs, I know where you're going.
No, we're not, we're trying to put bump-outs as much as possible yet.
So these are just some examples of, and I think these does not apply to you.
These are just some samples for the null and overlay where they have curves already.
If there are cracks, we might replace a false section or just the socket and seal it, or
these does not apply to you, but in some areas we have curved that is sunk, so we'll take
it out and try to realign it so that some water goes through.
These more of areas that will be kind of in your area, so if you have stuff like this, if
have a stamped concrete, we will try to avoid touching it as much as possible because it's
really hard to match it up and get it to look the same. We have that issue in the past.
So for example, the one in the bottom here, we actually brought the curb and line it right
with the bottom of the curb. And then this we removed this section here, this walkout and
had to match there.
This one here, we had to suck at the wall
and remove this section and the curb went over there.
So it all depends on what you have out there,
but we will be careful of what we're doing.
We try to not cause any more damage than what we have to.
And normally in every construct area.
And again, we will try to match what's out there.
So for example, in this area here, on the picture on the right,
where we have the concrete, when we go, we'll saw cut and then we might end up taking the full panel
if we see need for it to match the new elevations and the new grade for the curb and how is
that going to match with the street.
If it is on the left side where it is just gravel and kind of bituminous, we will put what's out there.
don't expect us to come and put concrete if you don't have concrete, don't expect us to put
between us if you just have gravel or something like that. We match what's out there.
On the same thing here, you can see these are gravel so we'll just put the new curve in and match
the grade we go back as far as as much as we needed without getting into the private property.
I mean we have a right of way about 10, 15 feet. We'll try to go there if we go beyond that.
But we'll let you know, give you a call, hey, we need to go a little bit farther, so we can
match the grade and you don't have any issues with your driveway getting in and out.
This is the schedule for the project, basically started with the authorization of the feasibility
study in August of 24.
We have the neighborhood meeting today, yesterday and today, and then the feasibility study
will present it to the Council in January, and then the public hearing will be the second meeting in January.
Approved plans, being February, kind of hesitant to say in January, because we still are waiting on the
meeting with the health department to see if we can include these streets and or not.
So we might be pushing it one month, but we'll see how that goes.
But our goal is to have the project bid opening in March and awarded in April because
the sooner we get it out, the better prices we get from the contractor before they're all
and prices go up. Construction will be made through October 2025. Assessment hearing will be in October
25. With this, this is the end of my presentation. If you have any questions, you can ask
of us other than that this our contact is on the
City website, you can go to the City website, engineering, and all the staff is there, all the phone numbers, e-mails. You can call any of us and try to answer as much as possible.
That if you have any questions, please feel free.
Yes, sir.
Okay.
In the front
of the front.
Typically,
the services are basically the property owners.
responsibility. I mean, we will, any contractor will apply for a permit and we will give
the permit for him to go ahead and do it. There is other ways than replacing it. You can
line it up, maybe a little bit less expensive for you, if there is structure of the pipe still
in intact, they can just line it up and it will be one solid piece and you don't have the issue
with the roads. As long as there is not really separation of the joints or there is no holes
and the private, if it's structurally, you know, in a good shape, then they can line it up.
But it still goes through the city for permitting, and we make sure that it's done right.
We're just handling the main.
Yeah.
We're just handling the main.
We'll just televised the main line.
There is any repair on the main line we'll do it.
Yeah, if we see any services that have issues with the main line, I don't know if we see any yet or not
Okay, yeah, we're still televising him right now
We try to address him also there is any issues that the services are not connected right or loose or there is leak
We try to minimize that also
Yes
How do you address multi-tenant buildings like kind of any
There's a garage door and you may car go in and out.
For instance, waiting for the curb and concrete needs to be clear.
Our experience in our upper city system that we've been unable to access our driveways
for a period of time to allow that concrete to clear properly.
Yeah, and normally it's one week after pouring the concrete.
And then the multi-unit, I mean for the assessment,
There are two categories, the city policy have categories for each assessment.
A single unit is just a regular residential unit.
If there is what we call it an apartment house, if there is like a house and then they're
renting the top floor, then there will be an added point two per unit for each unit.
So an apartment house will be 1.2 units.
So if your assessment is 5,000, then they'll pay in 6,000.
If there is more than one unit, then we'll add 0.2 for each unit.
But for an apartment building, like the one on, I think it's third and linden, yeah, there
is 24 units, the category there, yeah, how many?
Oh, I thought it's 24.
Thank you for letting me know.
I gotta go check mine.
So these are considered as point eight units. So again, if yours is 5,000 each one of them will be basically 4,000.
25 cars, where are those 25 cars going to be for that week?
Well, we'll try in situations like these. We might do half at one time and then leave the other half so people can get in and out.
And then once that one is done, then we'll do the other half.
Last year, we had second street area.
They were at about 8,500, I would say.
And then on Abbott West of Greely, they were at 10,000.
And it all depends on what involves in the project.
But for your area, we're looking at it all as one unit.
So, everybody will have the same assessment.
Yes, sir.
Political accommodations for...
Would you like a situation where you have a wheelchair in the need access to it?
Yeah, like I said, we'll try to, when we do the work, then the contractor will have information
that you will have to ramp whatever work he's doing with coordination with you. If you have a certain
date that you need, for example, to get in and out, then they'll make sure that you'll have the
for you or for a car to get in right into the door for you to be able to access the vehicle.
The only time will be is when they are working directly in front of your property.
I mean, like when they are removing the curb or removing the pavement right in front of your property,
you might not have access to it for about half an hour or something like that until they remove it
And then we'll accommodate you and put at least a wrap of gravel for you to be able to get in and out.
Yes.
Can you be able to serve any of these things that are currently happening?
Yes.
Those curves going in all the streets.
And the sidewalk, we will try to, the sidewalk, there's some issues with the sidewalk in that area.
I mean, the minimum with pair,
but at least you know, the sidewalk, there's any damage
sidewalk, we will take care of it.
We will replace, I mean, we have the first contract
that is going to go out.
It's a separate contract.
They will look into the sidewalk.
If there is any heave in the sidewalk within, I would say,
And have an inch to about an inch, then they can shave it and make it an ADA approved.
The American Disability Act.
If they can make it within the ADA requirement without causing the integrity of the panel
or damaging it, then they'll do it.
If it is more than one inch, no one will take the panel out and replace it.
There are some areas where like we're looking at it today
There are areas that the sidewalk is going and then going down on steps
This is not ADA so we'll have to look into some areas
We'll have to contact the people in the area and see how we can manage to
Whether do we need a sidewalk there or not?
I mean because sidewalk is cost it is costly
It is concrete and everything concrete is very expensive
And to add a new sidewalk, a five foot panel, it's about $2,500 per property.
So we're not going to be able to add any new sidewalk unless it is really necessary.
There are some panels, there are some areas of sidewalk that are not on a, not within the right of way.
We will try to take these out and put them in the right of way because they are on private property.
So that will happen. We will remove these from private properties and put it in the right
away. There are some areas that the street itself is on a private property in that area.
So we are dealing with a lot of issues in that area. I mean, you can look at the corner
of maple and shift and you see that jog there, all that is actually on a private property.
So we'll have to push all that out.
The air people on the south are not going to be happy.
The people on the north will be happy
because now they have more bowl of water.
But we'll have to deal with it
and we'll have to get in touch with the residents in the area
and try to deal with it.
Yes, sir.
Will the concert come in that, like, not coming over?
Got all of us with us?
For the sidewalks?
Yeah, for the sidewalk.
That will be done before the contractor,
even in the picture.
That we will do it.
We will try to accommodate that we will try to get in touch and see what we need to do before it gets to construction.
Yes.
I'll go ahead and speak.
Go all the way up to the golf course.
There's no sidewalks in here.
Except for a short section we'd be able in the entry.
You can sidewalk on one side.
Yes.
We'll sidewalk beyond the other.
Yeah.
I mean we will be.
But again, it's going to increase the assessment a lot.
That's what we're running into.
We were going to add it into one street and we went through the whole process and then they decided,
No, we don't want to pay that much money for it.
So, I mean this is the issue, it is the cost and until the city have enough funding or you
know budget that they can do the sidewalks, it's really hard, Eddie.
We can repair what's out there, but it's really hard to add it in you. Yes, sir.
No, that's not part of the project.
On corner lots, that half one corner is not in the project area, but was saved on the fourth street project area.
Are those those judge half? Yes. Okay.
If you're charged half already, you're just going to get charged half.
Yep. Yes.
It can use like a mobile mobile application,
or a mobile system.
Or it can create a great bubble higher,
and hold the side one and out to the edge.
On the other side, there are some areas
that are in the right of way, so we might leave it there.
We will work with it.
We are still doing the design on it.
We might end up moving the side walk out
to be out of the black asset private properties.
and move it out, but yeah, we're trying to make it 30-2 feet and we try to center it on the existing
right away, right? Now, I think the road is not centered on the existing right away, so it might
affect the north properties, different than the south properties, but in general there will
be more boulevard to the properties.
If it is, the city have the right away, which is a 60 feet
right away. Yeah. So it will still run whatever utilities in that right away between the
between the curb and end of the right away, basically.
Yes.
Well, we don't have RFPs.
We do that design ourselves. And then we will advertise it for Bids on Quest. It will
be sealed bits, there will be a date for it to open, and it will all the bits will be
open publicly, I don't have that idea, I can notify you if you want, but it will be on
the paper, I mean it will be on the quest, we will send it to the paper that it will
will be accepted until this day this time.
If I have a couple of questions.
The question for proposal.
Yeah.
We don't have requests for proposal.
That's normally, like if we have a project that we want assistant with a consultant, then we send requests for proposals from consultants,
and engineering consultants to help us with the design of it.
But we're not doing that.
This is what designing it at House.
So I'm here familiar with genetics that we can in New York,
who worked under a little bird that took her to the park and then
transferred to the United States.
She wrote a book called Stripe Light.
It's not about improving the streets and making them safer or not just
pedestrians, but also bicyclists.
So, there was a lot of thought given to save passages on streets, or sites in the city.
Yes, indeed.
And I think that maple street would be a great opportunity to not narrow the street,
but how to creatively design a street with a safe, cessible.
It's a true way of street, isn't it?
Is there a way you've designed like that?
It is a through-yes, goes all the way from the acoustic all the way to
I'm not sure of why it was done like that to be honest with you. It was done long long time ago
So I mean we have we have streets that are
Why right now?
I think Laurel is designated as a bike route and so on if you look into there is a I think we have a map on
Online that shows the existing designated bike route in the city whether there is a bike route now or it's in the future
I don't think maple is one of them
better than you've got through greenies three to the following street.
Number one, I'm an avid-wise cyclist.
And Greenley's street is a street that I need to get out of two various shops.
Tonight is what's pretty.
On the right, you know, you've got this little tiny lane that's been 293 FY.
And I was biking along, and then all of a sudden, it's gone.
You know, because there was a decision to make a little loud and a little really sweet down by, you know, that kind of thing.
You know, it just appears, so what I like to do that.
You know, it's like, and I can see that there was a white line behind here, but you know,
get rid of that white line. It just, it's just like we have an opportunity here. This is a big deal for all of us to come here and listen to it.
Sure. For some, it's like not that much, but for many of us here, I would say many of us here are saying, whoa.
I agree. Yeah, I agree. It's not. It's not. It's my third. My second thing.
Why?
I think in this way I'm sitting. Why can't we just say equally? This street is not nice.
Yes, it has power capabilities that we've gone from I get that.
But it's not just the people on the street that use this street in the sidewalk.
It's true.
Why not?
It's been fairly, amongst everyone in the city, a little bit, not like every 25 years
of 20 years of service.
You know, you need to $10,000.
This issue comes up every year with the city council, the assessment hearing.
But the thing is that this process has been done since 1994.
And there are properties since 1994 that have been paying their assessment.
And it is not fair for them that we say now, okay, we're going to start spreading everybody's.
Though they already have paid their assessment.
And some of them actually have paid the twice.
Because in 1999 and 1998, first street, second street, and those streets south, they were reconstructed.
And just last year, we did a million overlay.
So they actually, some people have paid assessment twice already.
So it's just not fair for everybody to go back and say,
you know what?
We got to drop what we were doing until now
and just go with dividing it by everybody.
Yes, there is a process.
There is other cities who done it over 15, 20 years period
that they every year they take a percentage and spread it out, but this is what the city council and the city
basically, the city council's decision is that to keep doing it this way because it's more fair to what people already done.
I have paid my assessment, I live in the city also.
There was ways, yeah, of course there was ways.
But the thing is that you're not going to go back and pay for all the people who have paid, you're not going to be happy with that also.
That's the solution, right?
You know?
Yeah,
I mean, the idea.
You can have access to the bits any day.
I mean, yeah, I can show you the bits from last year, up to 10, 15 years ago.
we have all the bits and we can have, I mean nothing is being done in the hidden or anything.
We receive the bits, they are all open publicly, they are all the contractors there.
If you are in any of the public can come into that room and can hear what's going on and how is the bit being handled.
And normally, we normally, until now, it is the lowest bidder, because there are three, four contractors who are bidding on these projects, and we know all the contractors, they all have been working.
So it's not like we know this contractor is new and we need to investigate them. We know that they're all been doing work in the city. So there's nothing hidden in the bidding process.
But I'll tell you, it's becoming a loan.
It just seems really high for me,
Captain.
That's pretty high.
You're the cost of the loan.
Oh, no.
No, that's for the property for the whole section in front of the house.
OK.
No, I'm not saying $2500 for a panel.
No, no, no.
No.
I'm saying $2500 per property for the sidewalk in front of their house.
Yeah.
They are.
Thank you.
Yeah.
If you want, if you want, and you can answer the questions of you want to do it individually, by all means, so if you don't want to wait that long, otherwise I'm okay just keep going.
Yes,
you can come in the, and the, and the feasibility report and the public hearing in
January and, or in February, whatever that date is, we're going to send letters out and you can
come and comment on it if you want.
Yes.
We were doing this for 15.5 pounds on.
It's green.
Still have galvanized or red coming off of it.
It was...
Hey, kiddo, I'm maple!
We just make a love about $1.5 per week from the day to the end.
Into our home.
It's nightmare because it's stone.
It's snow.
And they get a great job.
Did you guys touch that?
Nobody is going to touch it. Nobody is going to touch it. Nobody is going to touch it.
Nobody is going to touch it. No.
I have been in the past four years.
There's not enough.
That could pull up the show for 10 years.
No, no. It's not going to be holding up for 10 years.
I mean, the state already have the money in.
And they have a process of applying every, I think it's March.
The deadline for to applying.
we missed the deadline for this year, but we are on next year's application for
for 2026 and beyond that. So the state have the budget for it and they have requested
that all these services be replaced.
That's okay.
I'm sorry.
I have to be bothered.
The curves, the cymbal oxygen are amazing.
All the transitions for the hand-counter accessible, I'll talk about one of the contractors.
I'm checking the CVs and I'm going to say that.
I said this was just done.
If they get it wrong, we're another contract and you need to see.
We're coming back into the internet.
Is that accurate information?
That was a county project. I cannot comment on the county project. I think that's what they were.
They weren't ADA compliant.
They should
be certified.
And it was on the contractor's cost.
It was not on anybody's cost.
Because the contractor, when they are awarded the contract,
they are responsible for anything to be done within the MINDAT specification.
So there is any mistake in that, even if even if the county were checking and they missed it,
it's still on the contractor because their employees have to be certified to do the work
according to the MINDAT specification and the ADA requirements.
It's possible, we talk to the contractor and he can put some aside for your yes.
I mean, I'm not exactly sure how heavy they are. I've not pushed it right side, I don't know.
Yes sir.
At the time you will either see David or John of the Sun, you are all the contractor himself, whoever is on the machine.
Who is doing the work, you can just ask him also and they'll put it aside for you.
Thank you very much.
Yes.
All side of school.
Murdole is 26.
Murdole is, if you will probably notice, there was a lot of QR codes that were collecting survey for it.
And 26 is only going to be a model. We're not doing any other projects with it.
It's a very expensive one.
Yeah, are the lots empty,
okay, so is it a one-lantern or is it a one-lantern or, is it a one-lantern?
You know when I hit three times, they will be deferred until reconstruction.
So if a construction went on 10 years from now, it will be deferred to that time,
And it will be pro-rated for that period.
So the world in 10 years, if the life of the world is 25 year,
then it will be the rest of the 15 out of the 25.
Whatever that construction is happening,
then it's going to be pro-rated for that time.
Yes.
Yes, everywhere.
Yes.
Yeah, no, everything getting new curve.
Yes, everything will be curved and stones will try to update what's out there to manage it basically better.