1 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:52,070 Good evening. 2 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,639 Good evening, Stone Crest, and welcome 3 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:56,960 to today's work session. Today is 4 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,680 Monday, August 10th, 2026. The time is 5 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,880 now 6:02. I am now calling the meeting 6 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,039 to order. Madame City Clerk, can you be 7 00:07:05,039 --> 00:07:06,960 so kind and take the role? 8 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,550 >> Yes, ma'am. Good evening, everyone. 9 00:07:08,550 --> 00:07:08,560 » Yes, ma'am. Good evening, everyone. 10 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,039 Mayor Jasmine Cabbell, 11 00:07:11,039 --> 00:07:12,880 Mayor Pro Tim, Tara Graves 12 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:13,350 >> here, 13 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:13,360 » here, 14 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,189 >> council member Alicia Washington 15 00:07:15,189 --> 00:07:15,199 » council member Alicia Washington 16 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:15,589 >> here. 17 00:07:15,589 --> 00:07:15,599 » here. 18 00:07:15,599 --> 00:07:17,350 >> Council member George Turner 19 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:17,360 » Council member George Turner 20 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:17,909 >> here. 21 00:07:17,909 --> 00:07:17,919 » here. 22 00:07:17,919 --> 00:07:19,589 >> Council member Carisha Smith 23 00:07:19,589 --> 00:07:19,599 » Council member Carisha Smith 24 00:07:19,599 --> 00:07:20,150 >> present. 25 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:20,160 » present. 26 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,390 >> You have a quorum. Thank you madam city 27 00:07:22,390 --> 00:07:22,400 » You have a quorum. Thank you madam city 28 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,199 clerk. Council, after reviewing today's 29 00:07:25,199 --> 00:07:27,199 agenda, are there any proposed 30 00:07:27,199 --> 00:07:31,270 adjustments? 31 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,670 Hearing none, I entertain a motion. 32 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,759 » Pro Tim. Councilman Turner. 33 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:40,629 >> Move to approve the agenda as written. 34 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:40,639 » Move to approve the agenda as written. 35 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:41,510 >> Second. 36 00:07:41,510 --> 00:07:41,520 » Second. 37 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,110 >> The motion has been properly moved and 38 00:07:43,110 --> 00:07:43,120 » The motion has been properly moved and 39 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,120 second by Councilwoman Washington. Are 40 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,599 you ready for the question? All those in 41 00:07:47,599 --> 00:07:49,360 favor of the motion, please respond with 42 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,960 yay. All those opposed, nay. Starting 43 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,319 with district three, 44 00:07:52,319 --> 00:07:52,870 >> yay. 45 00:07:52,870 --> 00:07:52,880 » yay. 46 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,309 >> District four? 47 00:07:54,309 --> 00:07:54,319 » District four? 48 00:07:54,319 --> 00:07:54,869 >> Yay. 49 00:07:54,869 --> 00:07:54,879 » Yay. 50 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:55,990 >> District five, 51 00:07:55,990 --> 00:07:56,000 » District five, 52 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:56,710 >> yay. 53 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:56,720 » yay. 54 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,749 >> District one is yay. The agenda is now 55 00:07:59,749 --> 00:07:59,759 » District one is yay. The agenda is now 56 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:04,550 approved. Motion carries four to zero. 57 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,680 Next on the agenda 58 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,479 is the June monthly financial update by 59 00:08:10,479 --> 00:08:29,110 Director Kesha Franklin. 60 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,190 Good evening 61 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,880 The June 2026 financial summary update 62 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,519 contains for the month of June, we did 63 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:44,159 have expenditures that exceeded revenue, 64 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:46,240 but overall 65 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,839 we still have a surplus of $2.3 million. 66 00:08:49,839 --> 00:08:52,080 One of the highlights um of this month 67 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,080 is that we met with Barry Dunn. Barry 68 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,760 Dunn actually handles our opera 69 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,240 reporting for the city. And so during 70 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,240 that meeting, we got an update from 71 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,800 Barry Dunn that we could potentially use 72 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,880 reclassify some of the expenses from 73 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,880 prior fiscal years where the audits 74 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,959 aren't complete into qualified ORPA 75 00:09:14,959 --> 00:09:17,839 expense categories. And so that would 76 00:09:17,839 --> 00:09:21,920 assist us in um fulfilling that $3 77 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,440 million 78 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,000 additional remaining amount that we have 79 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,160 to spend for ARPA. 80 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,040 So I I have informed the city engineer 81 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,760 and we met and we will start to identify 82 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,040 different funds that qualify 83 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,959 that could have qualified for ARPA that 84 00:09:38,959 --> 00:09:41,279 we actually spent from the general fund. 85 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:44,480 And as we do that, we'll submit those to 86 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,480 be approved. And then once those are 87 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,959 approved, we'll bring those back before 88 00:09:48,959 --> 00:09:52,160 council to decide whether or not that 89 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,880 those adjustments is something the city 90 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,279 wants to do. 91 00:09:57,279 --> 00:10:01,360 Then also noted on fund 300 where you 92 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,640 see it's a reported deficit that is a 93 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,160 timing issue. We do have a project 94 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,560 called CDBG related to Fington 95 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:14,000 sidewalks. It is a reimburseable grant. 96 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,320 So it's the timing of us spending those 97 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,680 funds versus requesting reimbursement 98 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:22,640 for for those funds. 99 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,560 And also wanted to add an update that 100 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:26,720 the midyear budget adjustment, it should 101 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,320 be posted by the end of this week. I 102 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,800 believe it's available for signature 103 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,360 tonight. 104 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,560 Any questions? 105 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:41,670 >> Council member Tim. 106 00:10:41,670 --> 00:10:41,680 » Council member Tim. 107 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:44,230 >> Yes. Council Washington. 108 00:10:44,230 --> 00:10:44,240 » Yes. Council Washington. 109 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,110 >> Yes. Could you repeat the surplus 110 00:10:47,110 --> 00:10:47,120 » Yes. Could you repeat the surplus 111 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,120 balance again for me, please? Thank you, 112 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,839 Kesha. $2.3 113 00:10:51,839 --> 00:10:52,959 million. 114 00:10:52,959 --> 00:10:53,829 >> Okay. 115 00:10:53,829 --> 00:10:53,839 » Okay. 116 00:10:53,839 --> 00:10:59,030 >> Thank you, 117 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,240 » Report Tim. 118 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,509 >> Councilman Turner, 119 00:11:01,509 --> 00:11:01,519 » Councilman Turner, 120 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:03,110 >> continuing down that same line of 121 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:03,120 » continuing down that same line of 122 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,440 thought, um projection for the year, 123 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,040 we're looking at probably 124 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,839 how much of a uh fund balance? 125 00:11:15,839 --> 00:11:18,160 I do not have the fund balance printed 126 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,640 out right now, but we do have a healthy 127 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,000 fund balance. I can bring that um I can 128 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,720 provide it via email this evening and I 129 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,240 can also make sure I make that part of 130 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,720 the presentation next time. 131 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,630 >> The numbers I'm looking at indicate that 132 00:11:32,630 --> 00:11:32,640 » The numbers I'm looking at indicate that 133 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,640 we could be between four and $5 million 134 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,680 surplus if we continue at the same 135 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:39,440 trend. 136 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,240 And I know we just um 137 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,880 laid forth a budget adjustment. So there 138 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,480 might be opportunities for us to do some 139 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:47,839 other things. That's not for you to 140 00:11:47,839 --> 00:11:49,279 decide. I'm just saying 141 00:11:49,279 --> 00:11:53,590 >> that if we are confident that this is a 142 00:11:53,590 --> 00:11:53,600 » that if we are confident that this is a 143 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,920 real possibility that we're looking at a 144 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,680 $4 to5 million surplus. 145 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:02,310 >> Well, we have to look at the timing of 146 00:12:02,310 --> 00:12:02,320 » Well, we have to look at the timing of 147 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,959 revenues and expenditures. We do have a 148 00:12:04,959 --> 00:12:08,079 lot of expenditures that we do need to 149 00:12:08,079 --> 00:12:10,880 um get paid before the end of the year. 150 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,240 So that will affect the surplus. 151 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,600 um say for example right now it's a $2.3 152 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,480 million surplus but we do know we have 153 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,079 to expand at least $3 million. So right 154 00:12:24,079 --> 00:12:27,360 now it's more so of a a timing. um we 155 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,720 can do a forecast based on prior years 156 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,360 but um based on right now I wouldn't 157 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,680 necessarily say that but fund balance 158 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:38,399 and the surplus are two separate things 159 00:12:38,399 --> 00:12:41,120 on a month-to-month basis but at the end 160 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,200 of the year if you have a surplus it 161 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,959 will increase your fund balance and at 162 00:12:44,959 --> 00:12:46,720 the end of the year if you have a def 163 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,800 deficit it'll reduce your fund balance. 164 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,790 >> Got it. 165 00:12:52,790 --> 00:12:52,800 » Got it. 166 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,600 Um, 167 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,839 hate to ask you to repeat yourself, but 168 00:12:57,839 --> 00:13:00,240 I was looking at the ARPA 169 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:05,750 >> funds as a $3.5 million. 170 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,240 Can you explain how that may not be as 171 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,519 much of um being at Flint as it was? You 172 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:14,320 you said something up front about you 173 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,399 and Barry Dunn looking at something. Can 174 00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:18,399 you repeat yourself, please? So when we 175 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:21,600 met with Barry Dunn, there is a new 176 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,279 stipulation that applies to cities that 177 00:13:25,279 --> 00:13:27,920 have open audits. 178 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,560 So since we have open audits, we could 179 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:32,160 go back and look at some of our 180 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,880 expenditures that would have qualified 181 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,399 as ARPA funds and reclass them as ARPA 182 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:40,959 funds, which would reduce this $3 183 00:13:40,959 --> 00:13:45,839 million balance here as being due back 184 00:13:45,839 --> 00:13:47,360 at the end of the year if we don't 185 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,760 expend them. 186 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,240 So say for example we had a shared cost 187 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,920 project one year and so we paid a 188 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,399 million ARPA a million from the general 189 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:00,959 fund. We could potentially recclass the 190 00:14:00,959 --> 00:14:02,560 amount that we paid from the general 191 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:06,000 fund. So once we identify those amounts 192 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,240 we can get Barry done to confirm they do 193 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,800 qualify and then when we get that list 194 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,880 we could bring it forward because that 195 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,880 would have to be it would be crossing 196 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,639 funds. So, of course, council will have 197 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:19,519 to approve those journals. 198 00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:21,350 >> How far back can we go? 199 00:14:21,350 --> 00:14:21,360 » How far back can we go? 200 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,389 >> As long as we have open audit. So, we 201 00:14:24,389 --> 00:14:24,399 » As long as we have open audit. So, we 202 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:27,199 can go back to 23. 203 00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:30,550 >> Good. 204 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:38,790 And 205 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,959 there was something in the budget about 206 00:14:42,959 --> 00:14:45,279 parks and recreation. You mentioned 207 00:14:45,279 --> 00:14:47,680 getting with our engineering 208 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,639 to bring that up to date because we're 209 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:53,519 way behind 210 00:14:53,519 --> 00:15:00,230 >> parks and rack. 211 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,040 » What I um I was referring to the ARPA 212 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,959 funds when I spoke about the city. Uh 213 00:15:04,959 --> 00:15:07,040 yes, under it says that the parks 214 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,959 upgrade 215 00:15:08,959 --> 00:15:13,360 uh uh $2.9 million obligated and we've 216 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,760 only expended u less than a million 217 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,560 dollars. So there's the remaining 2.2. 218 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,519 So there's a plan to uh again I'm going 219 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:23,040 out of a year round. I'm just looking at 220 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,880 these numbers. 221 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,389 >> So are we saying that 222 00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:28,399 » So are we saying that 223 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:33,199 we expect to expend that or not? 224 00:15:33,199 --> 00:15:36,000 We do expect to expend it. It's just 225 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,240 meeting with to see to keep the status 226 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,480 of the projects to see how the projects 227 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,160 are progressing so that we can spend 228 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,639 those funds. So, we meet with the city 229 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:47,279 engineer to get a status of how the 230 00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:49,279 projects are moving along. 231 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:51,509 >> Okay. And I know you're working with me 232 00:15:51,509 --> 00:15:51,519 » Okay. And I know you're working with me 233 00:15:51,519 --> 00:15:54,880 here. Uh I expect things to be even kill 234 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,480 all the way down, but I know that's not 235 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,160 always the case is that we're midyear. I 236 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,800 expected 50% to be expended, but I know 237 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,199 that that's it's not realistic. But I do 238 00:16:05,199 --> 00:16:07,759 want to get a feel for where we are 239 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:10,470 >> and if there are some real threats to us 240 00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:10,480 » and if there are some real threats to us 241 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,600 achieving the uh budget goals. And I 242 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,920 think as far as timing is concerned from 243 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,240 my perspective, we probably started a 244 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,199 little behind on some of those projects 245 00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:25,360 because um in the beginning of the year 246 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,320 they were not able to get POS because 247 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,920 they did not have funding. So and as a 248 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,040 result the vendors cannot start working 249 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,240 if they don't have POS. So that probably 250 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,680 pushed some of the deadlines back some 251 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,240 from the original anticipated deadlines. 252 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,040 But everything that needed POS that we 253 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,680 received from the city engineer 254 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,360 beginning of the year around March, I 255 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,920 believe that was we did a budget 256 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,480 amendment for. And all those are cut and 257 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,320 those projects are underway. 258 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,670 >> Okay. And some things we're doing 259 00:16:59,670 --> 00:16:59,680 » Okay. And some things we're doing 260 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:00,560 catchup. 261 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,150 >> Mhm. 262 00:17:02,150 --> 00:17:02,160 » Mhm. 263 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,150 >> Okay. 264 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,039 And for the sake of the public, 265 00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:12,959 there's an acronym S Lf R 266 00:17:12,959 --> 00:17:17,270 S L F RF 267 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:28,069 associated with Barry Dunn. 268 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:28,880 I've got it. 269 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,510 >> Lost lost, I guess. State local fiscal 270 00:17:31,510 --> 00:17:31,520 » Lost lost, I guess. State local fiscal 271 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:32,480 recovery fund. 272 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:40,870 >> Right. Right. 273 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,559 And I made a note here that I'm going to 274 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:44,400 get probably with Miss Cow on the 275 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:53,669 quality trees and tree bank. 276 00:17:53,679 --> 00:17:55,600 Don't answer that. I I'll I'll get with 277 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,000 Miss Kowi on it. Okay. I know you 278 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,320 monitor the tree bank um funds and 279 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,760 whatnot and uh I made note quality trees 280 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,240 versus treebank and uh I don't know what 281 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,440 I made that note for. So you're free. 282 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:11,909 >> Okay. 283 00:18:11,909 --> 00:18:11,919 » Okay. 284 00:18:11,919 --> 00:18:13,590 >> All right. Thank you very much. 285 00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:13,600 » All right. Thank you very much. 286 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,150 >> Thank you. 287 00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:16,160 » Thank you. 288 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,799 Any questions? 289 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:20,160 Council, do you have any other questions 290 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:28,630 for Director Franklin? 291 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,240 Thank you so much, Director Franklin, 292 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:30,960 for your time. 293 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:37,750 >> Thank you. 294 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,120 » Next on the agenda is 295 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,760 a dis from the city manager office. 296 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,720 Update, 297 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:53,190 city manager Katherine Turner. 298 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,120 Good evening, mayor. In her absence, 299 00:18:55,120 --> 00:18:56,480 Mayor Pertim and members of city 300 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,880 council. 301 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,799 I'm excited to share a few initiatives 302 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:03,039 and updates that are currently underway 303 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:05,120 to improve our day-to-day operation and 304 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:06,720 help position the city to greater 305 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,720 efficiencies, accountability, and 306 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,280 transparency. There's a lot of positive 307 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,960 work that's behind the scenes, and I 308 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,240 simply cannot wait until the next 309 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,600 council meeting to share some of these 310 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,400 updates with you. Payroll audit. We're 311 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,840 in the process of partnering with an 312 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,080 external firm to do a to do a 313 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,760 comprehensive payroll and personnel 314 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,840 audit. The goal is to ensure that the 315 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,480 city's payroll system is accurate, 316 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,640 properly controlled, compliant, and 317 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,720 protected from errors, frauds, 318 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,080 inconsistency, or or potential issues. I 319 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,000 have identified a few areas that warrant 320 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,840 a further review, and I believe it's 321 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,360 important to be proactively address 322 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:43,039 these matters now to strengthen our 323 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:45,360 internal controls and protect the city's 324 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:47,520 financial integrity. 325 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,960 uh director Franklin has already shared 326 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,840 with you as far as our audit update. Uh 327 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,360 director Franklin and I have established 328 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:54,880 an excellent working relationship with 329 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,720 with to ensure that we remain aligned 330 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,960 regarding the city's financial position 331 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,640 priorities and the overall fiscal 332 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,880 health. We meet regularly to review the 333 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,640 city's financial status, discuss 334 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,720 emerging issues, and ensure that we're 335 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,799 making informed decisions that support 336 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:10,400 sound financial management and 337 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,080 accountability. 338 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,080 The clerk's office. The clerk's office 339 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,080 and I met with Mayor Pro Tim to improve 340 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,799 our internal agenda posting process and 341 00:20:18,799 --> 00:20:21,039 establish a more timely, consistent, and 342 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:23,280 transparent process for citizens to 343 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,760 review the upcoming agenda items. This 344 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,919 process improves will help the public 345 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:29,840 with greater opportunity to review and 346 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,000 understand items before council meeting 347 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,600 and will help reduce the number of 348 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,280 walk-on agenda items. Code enforcement. 349 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,960 I have assigned an employee to work 350 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,200 alongside our core enforcement team to 351 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,120 ensure the count's the council's 352 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:45,280 beautifification initiative to help make 353 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,600 Stone Crest a cleaner, safer, and more 354 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,600 desirable place to live, work, and do 355 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,919 business. His role is to proactively 356 00:20:51,919 --> 00:20:53,679 travel throughout the city. He's going 357 00:20:53,679 --> 00:20:55,039 to identify beautifification 358 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:57,280 opportunities and property management 359 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,840 concerns. He's document them and report 360 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,440 them to the department, the appropriate 361 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,280 department, and when necessary, Dicap 362 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,919 County for followup. He will also help 363 00:21:05,919 --> 00:21:08,000 us identify areas where the property and 364 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,520 business owner may need to address 365 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,760 conditions and their property and ensure 366 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,520 that equable requirements are being 367 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,159 followed. This proactive approach will 368 00:21:16,159 --> 00:21:17,760 help us identify issues before they 369 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,320 become larger problems and promp improve 370 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,799 the overall appearance of our city, hold 371 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:24,559 property and business owner accountable 372 00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:26,640 for maintaining their property. And our 373 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,080 goal is to work collaboratively with 374 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,600 code enforcement and our community 375 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,520 partners to preserve the quality, 376 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,919 appearance, and desiraability of stone 377 00:21:33,919 --> 00:21:35,520 crest 378 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,600 public works. We're in the process of 379 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,120 elaborating on the details with the 380 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:41,440 director of the cab county public works 381 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,520 road and drainage division. We're trying 382 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,360 to establish a workflow of our work 383 00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:47,200 orders and how can we track the status 384 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,120 of what's considered in progress and 385 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:51,440 what is considered done. This will allow 386 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,280 us to be more proactive on our work 387 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,159 orders. human resource department. We 388 00:21:56,159 --> 00:21:57,679 have partnered with the consulting firm 389 00:21:57,679 --> 00:21:59,520 that start helping us assist the city as 390 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,039 they transition from their previous 391 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:02,880 role. They're helping to support us in 392 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,480 the interim of our HR department and 393 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,559 city manager's office. They bring over 394 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:08,400 35 years of experience working with the 395 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,400 public and private organization and 396 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,320 providing uh executive leadership and 397 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,799 organization and development skills. She 398 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:16,799 also will be responsible uh for doing 399 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:18,960 our internal audit because they're MD 400 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,480 110 EOCC certified. And the last thing I 401 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,120 want to share is security. We are well 402 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,039 on our way to ensure that we have the 403 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:28,960 best possible security measures in place 404 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,440 at the Stone Crest City Hall. We're 405 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,120 working closely with Major Bearing and 406 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:35,039 the Sheriff's Office to strengthen the 407 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:36,880 safety and security of our faculty, 408 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,000 employees, and visitors. Major Bearing 409 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,919 has been out for the past few weeks, but 410 00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:43,520 we wanted to take a moment to welcome 411 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,000 her back. And we also want to recognize 412 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,320 her for the tremendous work she has done 413 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,640 throughout this process. She has been 414 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,039 absolutely amazing and we truly 415 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:54,640 appreciate her partnership, her 416 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,240 responsiveness, her commitment to 417 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,559 helping us make city hall a safer and a 418 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:01,280 better place to be. As the old saying or 419 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,360 what my grandmom used to say, give her 420 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:05,280 flowers while she's still here to smell 421 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,159 them. So, welcome back, Major Baron. We 422 00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:10,080 appreciate you and look forward to 423 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,760 continuing to support you and the 424 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,280 positive work that you bring to city 425 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:19,510 hall. 426 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:25,510 Come on up. Come on. Come on. [laughter] 427 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,159 So, behalf on all the city employees at 428 00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:31,280 Stone Crest, the mayor, Mayor Pro Tim, 429 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,919 Council, attorney, city clerk, we have 430 00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:35,200 something special we want to give you. 431 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,091 If you'll turn around, 432 00:23:38,091 --> 00:23:39,919 [laughter] 433 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:41,919 just a little token to tell you. He 434 00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:43,440 should come on up here. Just a little 435 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,679 token. Tiffany, 436 00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:47,360 just a little token to tell you thank 437 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:50,559 you. We can't keep our employees, this 438 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:52,960 building, the city when they the staff 439 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,880 members, the city when they come up 440 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,480 here, we can't keep them safe without 441 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,679 you and your team and the sheriff's 442 00:23:57,679 --> 00:23:59,600 office. We're so thankful that you're 443 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,360 back. We thank God that he covered you 444 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,120 and protected you and you brought us 445 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:05,280 back to us safe. So, with those flowers, 446 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,720 we want to just tell you thank you and 447 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,679 that's a small token of our 448 00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:29,110 appreciation. 449 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:33,120 know that's what this was about. 450 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,549 >> It wouldn't have been a surprise if we 451 00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:34,559 » It wouldn't have been a surprise if we 452 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:55,990 would have told you. 453 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,200 Yes, please. 454 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,630 >> Um, thank y'all so much. Um, 455 00:25:00,630 --> 00:25:00,640 » Um, thank y'all so much. Um, 456 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,000 what we do is not for this and I know 457 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,520 you all know that. uh we come, we serve 458 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,760 because it's our passion, it's our 459 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:15,440 commitment to the city, to all who come 460 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,600 work, play here, 461 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,080 um and live here. And so we I thank you 462 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,400 so much. Um 463 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,799 when city manager Turner reached out to 464 00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:28,640 me uh while I was on FMLA, 465 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,039 you text me 466 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:33,039 and there are some texts I I can't 467 00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:36,559 answer with a text. I have to answer by 468 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:39,120 calling and I told her I said you just 469 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,760 brought tears to my eyes 470 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,200 because um 471 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,080 to know that it's just beyond this badge 472 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,480 that I'm thought about 473 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,000 it means everything and it truly helped 474 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,720 me and the officers feel like we are 475 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,320 truly 476 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,720 the stone crest. 477 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,720 I thank you all for this. I really do 478 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,320 because you didn't have to because this 479 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,200 is not what we do what we do for. We 480 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,200 don't do it to, you know, be rewarded. 481 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,520 We do it the reward is making sure you 482 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,159 all are safe every day. So, I do truly 483 00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:16,400 thank you all for this. And y'all some 484 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:41,909 sneaky people. [laughter] 485 00:26:41,919 --> 00:26:58,950 I want to join. 486 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:04,230 Yeah. Why you so Yeah. 487 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:10,710 » You look like you sound like me. 488 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,279 » I know. 489 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:12,789 >> Oh, we do like this. 490 00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:12,799 » Oh, we do like this. 491 00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:14,470 >> You know, stand up at least or something 492 00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:14,480 » You know, stand up at least or something 493 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,760 so 494 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,070 >> Oh, you can't 495 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:25,750 » come down. Come on down. 496 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:43,990 You too. 497 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,870 They can't see you way back. 498 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,120 » Uh, director 499 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,919 back over here 500 00:27:53,919 --> 00:28:12,230 real quick. 501 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:12,799 Thank you. 502 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:27,029 >> Thank you. 503 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:34,630 trying to go crazy. 504 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:46,470 Okay. 505 00:28:46,480 --> 00:29:00,950 council. 506 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,640 Do you have any questions for our city 507 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,679 manager? 508 00:29:03,679 --> 00:29:05,990 >> I wanted to say my ending. 509 00:29:05,990 --> 00:29:06,000 » I wanted to say my ending. 510 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,230 >> Are you serious? [laughter] 511 00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:08,240 » Are you serious? [laughter] 512 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,710 >> Again, thank all I have for today. I 513 00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:10,720 » Again, thank all I have for today. I 514 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,080 want to thank you again for your time 515 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,520 and for allowing me to share these 516 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,000 updates in the work session. I'm excited 517 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,919 about the progress we're making and I 518 00:29:17,919 --> 00:29:19,440 look forward to the continued work that 519 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,399 we're doing. Thank you, 520 00:29:22,399 --> 00:29:24,389 >> council. Now, do you have any questions 521 00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:24,399 » council. Now, do you have any questions 522 00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:27,360 for your city manager? 523 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:27,909 >> Tim, 524 00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:27,919 » Tim, 525 00:29:27,919 --> 00:29:29,510 >> Councilman Turner, 526 00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:29,520 » Councilman Turner, 527 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:37,510 >> how's the fire holes going? 528 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,640 » One thing that's required of you is a 529 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,640 financial report by the 15th of each 530 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,279 month. And I know that's going to be a 531 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:48,799 challenge, but um we can talk about how 532 00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,159 it fits in either work session or the 533 00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:54,320 it's got to be council meeting because I 534 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,840 don't think we ever have a work session 535 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,080 before the 15th. So, we're still looking 536 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,840 forward to getting that financial report 537 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,279 from the city manager's office. 538 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:04,950 >> Yes, you will have that financial report 539 00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:04,960 » Yes, you will have that financial report 540 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,640 as well as an update on all the progress 541 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,919 we're making as well. 542 00:30:07,919 --> 00:30:14,149 >> Excellent. And um budget 543 00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:14,159 » Excellent. And um budget 544 00:30:14,159 --> 00:30:16,640 is in your court as well. And there's a 545 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,120 budget calendar that I think has already 546 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,720 been put together and I was having 547 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,880 trouble putting my hand on it. I'm not 548 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,760 sure if there going to be any 549 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,000 adjustments, but as soon as we could 550 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,520 take a look at the budget calendar 551 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,760 because the end of the year is near. 552 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,590 >> Absolutely. I've been working with 553 00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:33,600 » Absolutely. I've been working with 554 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,520 Deputy City Manager Michael McCoy and 555 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,520 our director of finance. They've already 556 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,120 met with some of the teams already, some 557 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,120 of the departments getting their budget 558 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,880 request for the year that lines up with 559 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,399 some of the initiatives that the city 560 00:30:44,399 --> 00:30:46,159 that the council has requested. So, 561 00:30:46,159 --> 00:30:47,600 we're working through that process so 562 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,840 that we'll be ready for the final 563 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,710 approval by the council. 564 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,799 » Good. And um at some point you will give 565 00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:03,760 us a summary of the vacancies 566 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,360 and if there going to be any 567 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,080 recommendation to staff adjustments. 568 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,080 This is not for an answer tonight but 569 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,520 just something we want to take a quick 570 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,360 look at. 571 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,190 >> Yes, I will have that in my report as 572 00:31:15,190 --> 00:31:15,200 » Yes, I will have that in my report as 573 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,440 well as when we have uh not asking for 574 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,600 one today but when we go in executive 575 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,120 session I'll have that information for 576 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:21,919 you. 577 00:31:21,919 --> 00:31:23,430 >> Okay. 578 00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:23,440 » Okay. 579 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,399 And I made the same note I made in the 580 00:31:26,399 --> 00:31:29,840 finance area. If there's a $4 million 581 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,950 surplus, 582 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,520 can we take a look at projects that we 583 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,399 can get done FY26 584 00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:40,960 if that is a solid projection? 585 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,470 >> Absolutely. I heard Director Franklin 586 00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:42,480 » Absolutely. I heard Director Franklin 587 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,159 mention, and I totally agree, if there's 588 00:31:44,159 --> 00:31:45,600 a surplus, we want to get some of our 589 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,679 projects complete. So, as many that we 590 00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:49,200 can get done during this time before the 591 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,919 year's out, we'll work toward it. Good. 592 00:31:51,919 --> 00:31:53,190 >> All right. 593 00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:53,200 » All right. 594 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,840 There's more, but I will yield. May 595 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,960 prom. 596 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,110 >> Thank you, Councilman Turner. Council, 597 00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:59,120 » Thank you, Councilman Turner. Council, 598 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,240 any other questions? 599 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,750 >> Mayor Pro 10. 600 00:32:01,750 --> 00:32:01,760 » Mayor Pro 10. 601 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,830 >> Councilwoman Washington. 602 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:03,840 » Councilwoman Washington. 603 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,230 >> Um, I know you mentioned the payroll 604 00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:06,240 » Um, I know you mentioned the payroll 605 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,519 audited. Um, how long will it take for 606 00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:12,159 that to go forth? 607 00:32:12,159 --> 00:32:14,389 >> I plan to have them engaged by the week 608 00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:14,399 » I plan to have them engaged by the week 609 00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:16,559 of the 24th. And they told me they could 610 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:18,399 have what's in the agreement is for two 611 00:32:18,399 --> 00:32:21,440 years. 2024 and 2025 will be completed 612 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,519 in two weeks. 613 00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:25,190 >> And you can are you going to give us an 614 00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:25,200 » And you can are you going to give us an 615 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,519 update u as they move forward with this 616 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:28,399 audit? 617 00:32:28,399 --> 00:32:29,430 >> Yes, I'm sometimes 618 00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:29,440 » Yes, I'm sometimes 619 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,470 >> how often? 620 00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:30,480 » how often? 621 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,710 >> Yes, I will give you some updates I can 622 00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:32,720 » Yes, I will give you some updates I can 623 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,480 via email if we're not having a work 624 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,080 session or a council meeting. Okay. 625 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,590 >> And then I'll give you the other updates 626 00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:37,600 » And then I'll give you the other updates 627 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,960 during the meeting. 628 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,470 >> Thank you. I yield. 629 00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:40,480 » Thank you. I yield. 630 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,669 >> You're welcome. 631 00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:43,679 » You're welcome. 632 00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:48,149 >> May I pro him? Councilwoman Smith, 633 00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:48,159 » May I pro him? Councilwoman Smith, 634 00:32:48,159 --> 00:32:51,029 >> city manager Turner. Hello. 635 00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:51,039 » city manager Turner. Hello. 636 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:51,909 >> Hello. 637 00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:51,919 » Hello. 638 00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:54,789 >> Um, I just have a question as it 639 00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:54,799 » Um, I just have a question as it 640 00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:57,440 relates, you mentioned public works that 641 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,000 you guys are um trying to make some 642 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,240 efforts on the things that we submit 643 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,039 from a public works perspective. I know 644 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:06,960 that we've done a little bit here and 645 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,519 there, Mayor Pro Tim, myself trying to 646 00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:12,159 talk to or speaking with Commissioner 647 00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:14,159 Marita Davis Johnson and her office to 648 00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:16,240 see how they can help us get feedback on 649 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,720 things that we've had open for a while. 650 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,720 Have you guys been able to make any 651 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,039 leeway on getting some direct um access 652 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:28,240 to the the orders or the tickets that we 653 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,200 put in from a city perspective 654 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,760 um as it relates to updates on anything 655 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,640 that's been in? Have you had a chance to 656 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,200 make any leeway on that? 657 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,789 >> We haven't made a lot of leeway, but 658 00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:40,799 » We haven't made a lot of leeway, but 659 00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:43,440 we're in the process. Uh, Councilman 660 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,600 George uh, Turner is going and I going 661 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,519 to meet with Miss Davis to go over some 662 00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:48,880 of the concerns that has been brought 663 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,039 forth and I also spoke with the director 664 00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:53,279 of public works office today and we are 665 00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:54,960 setting up a meeting with them as well 666 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,440 as our project engineer, Mayor Pro Tim. 667 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,799 We're all coming to the table with what 668 00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:00,559 our issues are and what are the items we 669 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:02,799 put in the work in their system to see 670 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:04,159 how fast we can get some of those 671 00:34:04,159 --> 00:34:05,919 expedited. What we want to do is 672 00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:07,760 understand the process meaning when we 673 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,359 put in a work order, how long does it 674 00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:10,800 take it to get work? when will we know 675 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,359 that it's been done and what are any 676 00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:14,720 challenges they're experiencing. So, 677 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:15,599 those are the things we're going to 678 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:16,720 bring to the table. We're gonna have a 679 00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:18,399 list of items. So, if you have some and 680 00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:19,919 that you've identified you want to share 681 00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:21,359 with me, we'll make sure it's included 682 00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:22,399 in that list. 683 00:34:22,399 --> 00:34:24,950 >> Okay. Thank you. And on to the 684 00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:24,960 » Okay. Thank you. And on to the 685 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,560 beautifification 686 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,520 um effort that we've announced that we 687 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,320 would like to see happen. Um you 688 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,079 mentioned that we have someone who's 689 00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:37,919 going to be helping in that area. Now, 690 00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:41,679 um my question is 691 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,079 if we see something, say something. Does 692 00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:47,359 our who we say something to change any 693 00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:50,560 or do we still just reach out to code 694 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,919 enforcement director Kowi and team if 695 00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:57,280 there is something that we see or ideas 696 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,040 that we have as it relates to the 697 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,240 beautifification initiative. 698 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:04,400 We always welcome your ideas because 699 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,760 that's how we're trying to move forward 700 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,520 with some of these initiatives. I will 701 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,800 share with you an email because I don't 702 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,960 know if I can share it on this mic who's 703 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,400 going to be working alongside of 704 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,320 director Q and then that way you can 705 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,520 send it to both of them. 706 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:15,910 >> Okay? 707 00:35:15,910 --> 00:35:15,920 » Okay? 708 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,390 >> And we plan to work on those issues. So 709 00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:18,400 » And we plan to work on those issues. So 710 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,079 starting he's here but I don't know if 711 00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:21,520 it's okay to say it but he's going to 712 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,880 start on them this week. 713 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:23,190 >> Okay. 714 00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:23,200 » Okay. 715 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,349 >> Um and so as fast as you get some issues 716 00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:25,359 » Um and so as fast as you get some issues 717 00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:26,480 that you've already seen, 718 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,190 >> right? 719 00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:27,200 » right? 720 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,190 >> Pass them along. Uh, I'll send you the 721 00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:29,200 » Pass them along. Uh, I'll send you the 722 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,359 email contacts to everyone to tonight. 723 00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:32,640 You'll have it in your email by in the 724 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,079 morning and then that way we can store 725 00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:35,119 go ahead and go and give a list of 726 00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:36,400 things that we need to work on. 727 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:36,790 >> Okay. 728 00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:36,800 » Okay. 729 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,069 >> We're excited about it because we know 730 00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:38,079 » We're excited about it because we know 731 00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:39,440 some of the businesses that we need to 732 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,520 work with to help them clean up some 733 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,440 things as well. So, I think this is 734 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,640 going to be a great initiative and you 735 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,240 all can let us know when it's over. 736 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,150 >> Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. 737 00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:48,160 » Okay. Sounds good. Thank you. 738 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,829 >> You're welcome. Mayor Pro Tim, why are 739 00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:49,839 » You're welcome. Mayor Pro Tim, why are 740 00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:53,589 you 741 00:35:53,599 --> 00:36:01,670 council? Any other questions? 742 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,400 Madam city manager, do you have do you 743 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,480 happen to know how many work orders um 744 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,119 we have pending currently? 745 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:12,870 >> Uh no, not at this time. I'll have to 746 00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:12,880 » Uh no, not at this time. I'll have to 747 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,400 find out what the total number is and I 748 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,240 can get back with you. 749 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:17,829 >> And I also want to say thank you for 750 00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:17,839 » And I also want to say thank you for 751 00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:20,079 joining our meeting um agenda meeting on 752 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:23,760 Friday along with the city clerk office. 753 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,839 Um, if you notice, we did not have a 754 00:36:25,839 --> 00:36:29,119 walk-on today. So, thank you so much for 755 00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:31,599 being proactive in getting everything in 756 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,359 so we can post it for the public. So, I 757 00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:34,320 appreciate that. 758 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:34,950 >> You're welcome. 759 00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:34,960 » You're welcome. 760 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,230 >> Um, as far as the payroll audit, you 761 00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:38,240 » Um, as far as the payroll audit, you 762 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,240 mentioned it's going the payroll audit 763 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:43,280 supposed to start on August 24th. 764 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,190 >> Week of August 24th. Yes. We're just 765 00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:45,200 » Week of August 24th. Yes. We're just 766 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,359 waiting for um our attorneys to finish 767 00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:49,520 reviewing the contract and all the 768 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,280 documentation to ensure it's aligned 769 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,599 with our our policies and charter. And 770 00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:55,440 once they approve it, then we'll get all 771 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,960 the signatures. They're ready to start. 772 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,079 They're waiting on us. 773 00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:01,670 >> They're waiting on us. 774 00:37:01,670 --> 00:37:01,680 » They're waiting on us. 775 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,069 >> Mayor Pro Tim, 776 00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:04,079 » Mayor Pro Tim, 777 00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:05,670 >> Councilwoman Smith, 778 00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:05,680 » Councilwoman Smith, 779 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,430 >> that's the question along the same 780 00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:07,440 » that's the question along the same 781 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,119 lines. Um, city manager Turner, can you 782 00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:13,599 let us know, let all of us, the public, 783 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:18,560 everybody know what our goal is and u 784 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,240 what we plan to accomplish with the 785 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:24,550 payroll audit. 786 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,720 » What we plan to accomplish is to ensure 787 00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:28,560 that all the employees that are being 788 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,960 paid are actually employees of the city. 789 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,720 That there's no ghost employees out 790 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:34,960 there. to ensure that the payroll is 791 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,800 done according to people are getting 792 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,720 paid what they should be being paid. 793 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:40,720 Ensure that all the taxes are lined up 794 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,480 as they're supposed to, all the 795 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,480 retirement. We're just going to audit 796 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,079 everything when it comes to payroll 797 00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:47,440 because like I said, I've seen a few 798 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,359 things that's concerned me. So, I want 799 00:37:49,359 --> 00:37:51,520 to ensure that we had an external 800 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,440 auditor to come in and review those 801 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,440 things. They have a scope of work that 802 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,119 they've been given and everything will 803 00:37:57,119 --> 00:37:58,640 be lined up in that scope of work to 804 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,640 ensure that nothing is missed. And once 805 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,560 they give us a comprehensive report, 806 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,160 then we'll go back and see if there's 807 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,599 anything else we need them to dig any 808 00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:07,200 deeper. They will be able to provide 809 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,800 that as well. 810 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:09,990 >> Okay. Thank you. 811 00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:10,000 » Okay. Thank you. 812 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,349 >> You're welcome. 813 00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:11,359 » You're welcome. 814 00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:13,270 >> Mayor Ban, 815 00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:13,280 » Mayor Ban, 816 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,270 >> Councilwoman Washington. 817 00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:15,280 » Councilwoman Washington. 818 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,349 >> Yes. Uh will the payroll audit, since 819 00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:19,359 » Yes. Uh will the payroll audit, since 820 00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:20,960 we've been having some issues with 821 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,800 supplemental pay, will the payroll audit 822 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,320 uh give us an evaluation on that also? 823 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,839 Yes, I've asked them to take a look at 824 00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:31,839 supplemental pay. I mean, they're going 825 00:38:31,839 --> 00:38:33,599 to evaluate the entire payroll. Anything 826 00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:35,760 that is doesn't look like it's it's 827 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,760 supposed to be will be evaluated, but I 828 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,040 did ask them specifically about 829 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,320 supplemental pay because it's been 830 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,400 discussed here, but we also are going to 831 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,920 drill down on supplemental pay when we 832 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,040 do our audit with Maldin Jenkins. 833 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,910 >> Thank you. 834 00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:47,920 » Thank you. 835 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,069 >> You're welcome, 836 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:53,839 » madam city manager. In regards to 837 00:38:53,839 --> 00:38:57,280 supplemental pay, um is it customary to 838 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,760 have promotions 839 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,200 under supplemental pay? Because I 840 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,160 noticed in the packet we received um at 841 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,640 our last meeting, it was noted as a 842 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,240 promotion, but it was filled out on a 843 00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:15,760 supplemental pay form. Is that customary 844 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,160 or is that a question for Director 845 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,079 Franklin? 846 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,000 Uh, from my understanding that is not 847 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,920 customary. Uh, from some follow-up that 848 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,440 I've already done, that was stated 849 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,599 incorrectly. That was a promotion. It 850 00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:30,960 was not supplementary pay. 851 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,310 >> Director Franklin, do you have anything 852 00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:32,320 » Director Franklin, do you have anything 853 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:48,710 else you want to add? 854 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,119 I will have to look at the exact item in 855 00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:54,160 question that you're referring to. 856 00:39:54,160 --> 00:40:01,270 Um I'm not sure. 857 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,599 Oh, 858 00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:07,920 on the on the back end, the the 859 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,800 information that's attached by HR is all 860 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,280 that finance has to refer to. I'm not 861 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,079 sure exactly what they go about using on 862 00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:21,359 the front end for supplementing pay. I 863 00:40:21,359 --> 00:40:24,400 don't know if it was a shortcut or the 864 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,680 item type didn't get created, but there 865 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,800 is a difference even within the 866 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,760 pay, not the payroll, but the um HR 867 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,520 manual, it describes supplemental pay 868 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,320 and salary increase and promotion 869 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,000 differently. So why 870 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,920 supplemental pay would be used for all 871 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,280 three, I'm not sure why that was chosen 872 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,760 on the front end, but if you look in the 873 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,040 manual, those three things are defined 874 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,710 differently. 875 00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:00,720 » Okay. I guess we'll find out more about 876 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,400 it. 877 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,550 >> Yes, I plan to uh I've already followed 878 00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:04,560 » Yes, I plan to uh I've already followed 879 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,640 up on that because I did realize that 880 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,640 that was stated incorrectly. So I will 881 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,359 be providing the council an update. um 882 00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:13,760 to get that corrected. 883 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,430 >> Council, any other questions for madam 884 00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:15,440 » Council, any other questions for madam 885 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,119 city manager? 886 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:17,589 >> Tim, 887 00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:17,599 » Tim, 888 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:18,550 >> Councilman Turner, 889 00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:18,560 » Councilman Turner, 890 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,430 >> just one um internal auditor. 891 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:23,440 » just one um internal auditor. 892 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,000 Barrett done fulfilling parts of that or 893 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,160 is that totally separate and we're going 894 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:34,470 to pursue getting an internal auditor? 895 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,079 » Oh, you mean an internal auditor for 896 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,240 payroll or which internal auditor you 897 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,880 speaking of? is for uh city operations 898 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,079 period. 899 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:43,829 >> Well, the we have an internal audit that 900 00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:43,839 » Well, the we have an internal audit that 901 00:41:43,839 --> 00:41:46,000 we're getting for the payroll and then 902 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,160 once we dig deeper into that one and see 903 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,680 if there's any other issues, then we'll 904 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:50,880 have a further audit. We have one for 905 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,880 the audits that needs to be done and the 906 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,720 one for payroll. At that point, we will 907 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:56,400 determine if we need any other audits 908 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,520 done. 909 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,230 >> Okay. I know we had issues with getting 910 00:42:00,230 --> 00:42:00,240 » Okay. I know we had issues with getting 911 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:02,800 that position filled either as an 912 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,359 employee or as a contract person and I 913 00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:08,960 wanted to know that we had resolved all 914 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,599 of that and the necessary steps were 915 00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:15,119 being taken to get it filled. 916 00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:17,829 >> I think the internal auditors are 917 00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:17,839 » I think the internal auditors are 918 00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:20,960 council uh appointed but we'll be more 919 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,880 than happy to work to get us an internal 920 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,960 audit because we see some opportunities 921 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,880 we want to make better. So if I have 922 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,480 that opportunity to be able to move 923 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:29,680 forward with it, then I will. 924 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:30,790 >> Okay. I'll get with you. 925 00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:30,800 » Okay. I'll get with you. 926 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,910 >> All right. Thank you, sir. 927 00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:33,920 » All right. Thank you, sir. 928 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,309 >> Thank you. 929 00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:41,280 Next on the agenda is resolution for the 930 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,839 matrix fee study by director Q and city 931 00:42:45,839 --> 00:43:01,030 manager Katherine Turner. 932 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,440 April 10. 933 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,680 This is the marvelous 934 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,630 matrix feast study, 935 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,200 citywide fee study for the city of 936 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,430 Stonecraft. 937 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,560 The study objectives was were to 938 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,960 streamline fee structure, time 939 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,720 assumptions, 940 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:28,319 the fully burden hourly rates in each 941 00:43:28,319 --> 00:43:31,680 department, um comparative survey, legal 942 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,520 compliance, and a master fee schedule. 943 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,680 The fee study results. The matrix 944 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,880 consulting team reviewed 293 945 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,079 fee line items which included a 946 00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:47,119 department the divisions of um building 947 00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,599 finance, land development, planning and 948 00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:53,599 zoning and parks and recreation. 949 00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:56,079 The fee calculation method was again the 950 00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,960 time estimate time the fully burdened 951 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,640 hourly rate for each employee equals the 952 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,440 full cost fee 953 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,760 which is the maximum justifiable fee 954 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:13,589 that can be assessed. 955 00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:16,480 This um attached a snippet of the master 956 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,400 fee schedule for the building department 957 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,960 listed um in your your packets. This 958 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,359 view could be a little bit different. We 959 00:44:25,359 --> 00:44:29,040 only submitted the current fees, the 960 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,640 consultant proposed fees, city proposed 961 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,560 fees, and if there is an a phasing 962 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,280 option, you will see um phase year one 963 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,839 and phase year two for the matter of 964 00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:47,760 this discussion for tonight. 965 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,640 Our 966 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,400 next steps will be to adopt the fee 967 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,760 schedule and to re-evaluate in five to 968 00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:01,190 seven years the fees. 969 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,040 April, 970 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,430 >> thank you, Miss Q. 971 00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:05,440 » thank you, Miss Q. 972 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,119 This is our favorite item. 973 00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,190 >> Magnificent. 974 00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:09,200 » Magnificent. 975 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:14,630 >> Council, do you have any questions? 976 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,280 I want to say thank you so much for my 977 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,000 um for my email for I guess the Excel 978 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,960 spreadsheet to show um our current fees 979 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,119 exactly pretty much what you um showed 980 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:29,280 off 981 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,950 >> just to simplify it a little bit better 982 00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:30,960 » just to simplify it a little bit better 983 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,359 not to interrupt you may pro Tim but you 984 00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:35,599 it is the same information that is in 985 00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:39,040 your packet is just summarized so you 986 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,839 can focus more on what the consultants 987 00:45:41,839 --> 00:45:44,880 proposed those fees are based on what 988 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,240 the city's proposing and if there is an 989 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,680 amount that is over a percentage. There 990 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,680 was a recommendation 991 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,760 um a few meetings ago that we would 992 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,920 phase those fees up to five years. But 993 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,200 again, for the matter of this 994 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,319 discussion, we only went to 2027. And of 995 00:46:04,319 --> 00:46:06,000 course, if you don't see the city's 996 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,880 proposed fee, um, for example, we see 997 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,960 for um the um fee study that I had 998 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,160 earlier, it was um a proposed fee of 999 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,240 $175. 1000 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:20,800 If that's a $175, 1001 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,520 that's what it would be in 2026. And of 1002 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,560 course, that fee will remain for 2027 1003 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,560 through the duration until the 1004 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,880 re-evaluation. But if there's an 1005 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,839 increase of fees, for example, um for 1006 00:46:33,839 --> 00:46:35,359 $4,000, 1007 00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:38,079 that will be a phased approach. And on 1008 00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:41,040 that matrix, you will see the numbers 1009 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,760 that will be phased until we get to that 1010 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,520 proposed cost. Of course, if you like, 1011 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,079 it is at your discretion that you could 1012 00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:52,800 just assess those fees in any year 1013 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,280 before we re-evaluate during that 1014 00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:03,829 five-year um period. Council, 1015 00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:05,520 do you have any questions for director 1016 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,240 Q? 1017 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:06,710 >> Yeah, 1018 00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:06,720 » Yeah, 1019 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:10,630 >> Timman Turner. 1020 00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:10,640 » Timman Turner. 1021 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,150 >> Voluminous, I think is a word we're 1022 00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:12,160 » Voluminous, I think is a word we're 1023 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,200 looking for here. That's quite a bit to 1024 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,720 digest and maybe I'm just the slow one, 1025 00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:21,359 but uh 1026 00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:24,800 it takes it takes a lot to digest all of 1027 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,839 this. And I do appreciate the time spent 1028 00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:30,319 putting it together, but when you look 1029 00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:33,119 at the resolution itself, it's a 1030 00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:36,240 two-part resolution. 1031 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:39,040 Uh the heading, if I could go back to 1032 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,829 it, speaks to 1033 00:47:43,839 --> 00:47:46,480 the study 1034 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,040 and part two speaks to 1035 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:56,720 adopting this uh the feast study. 1036 00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:59,520 Well, having a study in place is really 1037 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,680 great 1038 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,480 is something that we can reference 1039 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,920 when it comes to making the adjustments. 1040 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,839 But adopting it in totality 1041 00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:13,839 says that we accept everything that is 1042 00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:15,920 in it 1043 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,359 is my interpretation of it. So I'm 1044 00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:23,599 looking to have it done in two parts. 1045 00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:25,599 It would be my suggestion and that is 1046 00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:29,520 that the the study was a great study but 1047 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,920 it compares 1048 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,960 I think some of the full service cities 1049 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,240 to what we're doing in Stonerrest and a 1050 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:40,480 lot of what we're doing in Stone Crest 1051 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,990 might not 1052 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,800 be on the same 1053 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,800 level as what they're doing in full 1054 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,760 service cities. And I know we don't 1055 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,640 recoup penny for penny for what we put 1056 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,160 into 1057 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,720 uh providing some of these services, but 1058 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:01,359 that's why we're a city. 1059 00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:04,160 We provide services 1060 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,720 to attract business to Stone Crest. And 1061 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:15,510 I don't want our fees to be a deterrent 1062 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,280 if it is not necessary to raise them 1063 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,599 simply because some other city has fees 1064 00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:26,079 at a higher level. I want it to really 1065 00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:27,839 be 1066 00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:29,920 justified 1067 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,040 and say that uh we're doing it for the 1068 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,839 benefit of Stone Crest and not just 1069 00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:37,680 because other people are doing it. So, 1070 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,640 we need to jack our I won't say jack our 1071 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:45,119 fees up, but to increase our fees to 1072 00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:48,079 match some other city because um I look 1073 00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:52,640 at who we compared ourselves to and 1074 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:57,750 service-wise we're not a comparison 1075 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,720 and some cases we might be we might 1076 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:04,160 excel but uh overall these are cities 1077 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,280 that have been established for quite 1078 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,559 some time and they have and they're full 1079 00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:09,359 service cities. So, I would hate to do a 1080 00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:13,599 wholesale adoption of a resolution 1081 00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:16,720 without considering that some of these 1082 00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:20,640 items might not fit yet. And having the 1083 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:25,280 study shows us what it could be 1084 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,000 when we get there or if we think we are 1085 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,480 already there. So, I would want to look 1086 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,319 at this as a two-part resolution. 1087 00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:36,079 The study is a great study. They did a 1088 00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:39,760 good job on the study, but are we ready 1089 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,559 to adopt these fees in a wholesale 1090 00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:47,599 manner is my biggest concern and I would 1091 00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:49,359 also draw your attention to the end of 1092 00:50:49,359 --> 00:50:50,880 the 1093 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,359 um presentation. In fact, it basically 1094 00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:57,349 says that 1095 00:50:57,359 --> 00:51:02,230 when it does in in conclusion, 1096 00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,079 it says overall song generally has 1097 00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:05,839 current fees that are lower than the 1098 00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:10,079 fees of other survey jurisdiction. And 1099 00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:13,440 the last line says as much 1100 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,280 the results of this survey should be 1101 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,720 used as a secondary decision making 1102 00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:20,480 tool. 1103 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,920 and I'd rather treat it that way. 1104 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,950 That's coming from your consultant 1105 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,319 » and you can 1106 00:51:30,319 --> 00:51:32,390 >> Thank you. Um the feedback that we 1107 00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:32,400 » Thank you. Um the feedback that we 1108 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,839 received um on the interviews that staff 1109 00:51:35,839 --> 00:51:38,079 actually um had these conversations 1110 00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:41,520 directly with the consultant team did 1111 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,480 reiterate that last sentence, but also 1112 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,960 economically um making the city of Stone 1113 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,440 Crest a little bit more feasible um in 1114 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,520 the fees that we um currently assess to 1115 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,640 um some of the services that we provide. 1116 00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,880 It could go again phased as we have 1117 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,680 recommended or we can just allocate 1118 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,880 those fees to stay as they are. So 1119 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,920 either we can update our current um fee 1120 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,640 study fee schedule I'm sorry which is 1121 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,359 currently in our ordinance or we can um 1122 00:52:15,359 --> 00:52:18,000 again phase it um to be more 1123 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,520 economically um stable and feasible for 1124 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,960 the city of Stone Crest. 1125 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,190 >> All right. Well, that's my two cents. Do 1126 00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:25,200 » All right. Well, that's my two cents. Do 1127 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,400 I have any change coming? 1128 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,829 >> We don't have any change. 1129 00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:27,839 » We don't have any change. 1130 00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:29,990 >> Okay. 1131 00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:30,000 » Okay. 1132 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,910 >> Thank you, Councilman Turner. Council, 1133 00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:31,920 » Thank you, Councilman Turner. Council, 1134 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:38,710 any other questions for Director Q? 1135 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:41,920 » Miss Q? No, I have a question. Miss Q. 1136 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,920 So, when I look at the um spreadsheet 1137 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,800 that um you forward me myself, it has 1138 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,599 I want to say I agree with Councilman 1139 00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:53,200 Turner 1140 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,440 as far as some of the Because here it 1141 00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:00,079 says minor and major like modification. 1142 00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:02,559 What is is there a place where that 1143 00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:04,720 defines the difference between the minor 1144 00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:08,000 and major modification? Because I know 1145 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,960 prior or our current fees now is 250 but 1146 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,829 we're looking to increase it to 3,000. 1147 00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:17,280 » Yeah, that's amazing. The 1148 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,640 recommendations are um to your to your 1149 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,079 point u Mayor Pro Tim they are in the uh 1150 00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:26,240 modified and major is in the report. The 1151 00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:29,119 the difference between major are a 1152 00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:32,319 significant increase in those fees based 1153 00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:36,480 on again they the calculation the fee um 1154 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,720 of how the uh fees were assessed. uh 1155 00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:44,079 modified as you will see on the uh 1156 00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:46,880 spreadsheet as well is usually you will 1157 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,760 see a percentage. The modification could 1158 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,240 have been a percentage and that we just 1159 00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:54,240 included a whole number instead of a 1160 00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:56,880 percentage and some of the values of 1161 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,960 some of those fees could not be assessed 1162 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,280 because there are other internal 1163 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,000 calculations that need to be done um for 1164 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,920 those particular processes. And um we 1165 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,040 just move those fees over As far as the 1166 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,359 discussion is concerned for today, just 1167 00:54:13,359 --> 00:54:14,960 move those over because there weren't 1168 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,319 any changes in those. 1169 00:54:18,319 --> 00:54:20,800 So, you will see duplications 1170 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,920 and um from the proposed or current. Um 1171 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,480 if it's new, most of the new fees did 1172 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,359 come from um parks and recreation. So 1173 00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:32,319 you will see new but modifications would 1174 00:54:32,319 --> 00:54:34,400 be percentages 1175 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,920 um to whole to whole number fees and not 1176 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,800 the percentages. 1177 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,160 I hope that helps. 1178 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:42,549 >> Yeah. 1179 00:54:42,549 --> 00:54:42,559 » Yeah. 1180 00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:43,750 >> Okay. Thank you. 1181 00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:43,760 » Okay. Thank you. 1182 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,990 >> Well, council I know this is what the 1183 00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:46,000 » Well, council I know this is what the 1184 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,760 fifth time. 1185 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,710 >> No, it's like um Okay. 1186 00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:50,720 » No, it's like um Okay. 1187 00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:54,559 So, um I can share this uh email with 1188 00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:56,800 you so you can look at the fees um based 1189 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,200 on where they are now and what the 1190 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,520 proposed fees are and then we can talk 1191 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,760 about it so we can be ready to move 1192 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,280 forward with uh either approving or 1193 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,960 denying. 1194 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,960 We're ready to move forward. But now is 1195 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,720 our time to ask whatever questions we 1196 00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:14,960 have for Miss Q because she do not want 1197 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,720 me to put this back on this agenda. 1198 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:19,750 >> That would be correct. And um I'm 1199 00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:19,760 » That would be correct. And um I'm 1200 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,960 seeking what information that you're 1201 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,839 seeking so we can make sure that the 1202 00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:28,960 next time I am before you, I can answer 1203 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,599 those questions. 1204 00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:33,190 >> I suggest they ask you the questions 1205 00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:33,200 » I suggest they ask you the questions 1206 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,480 before you come back before. 1207 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,349 >> I really appreciate that as well. and I 1208 00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:37,359 » I really appreciate that as well. and I 1209 00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:40,160 can send you the um updated simplified 1210 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,319 version of the Excel sheet so you can 1211 00:55:42,319 --> 00:55:47,119 focus mostly on the recommended fees, 1212 00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:49,280 the current fees, the recommendation and 1213 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,160 if there's a fee that may have been a 1214 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,720 major modification, you can see that it 1215 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:56,640 was phased. 1216 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:57,440 Pro Tim, 1217 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:58,630 >> Councilman Turner. 1218 00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:58,640 » Councilman Turner. 1219 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,109 >> Uh, Miss Kawi, at some point there was 1220 00:56:01,109 --> 00:56:01,119 » Uh, Miss Kawi, at some point there was 1221 00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:04,400 discussion about the fees for in the 1222 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,480 area of the arborist, the tree cutting 1223 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,040 piece. 1224 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,829 >> Yes, as you will see that those fees um 1225 00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:09,839 » Yes, as you will see that those fees um 1226 00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:13,040 there was an error on the first um sheet 1227 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,880 or the first spreadsheet that we gave. 1228 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,520 We we've modified those fees and um 1229 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,079 corrected them. So, they should also be 1230 00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:22,240 in the current um Excel sheet that you 1231 00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:26,240 do have. U tree permits are $80. 1232 00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:29,440 not the 4,500 that was listed. 1233 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,470 >> Okay. 1234 00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:30,480 » Okay. 1235 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,390 >> But I do want to tell you that there is 1236 00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:32,400 » But I do want to tell you that there is 1237 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,839 a difference between a residential 1238 00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:38,640 property owner cutting down a tree 1239 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,680 compared to a major development. So if 1240 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,079 you see those fees, those are u 1241 00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:47,040 calculations based on land disturbance. 1242 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,920 So those fees will be higher based on a 1243 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,880 full development compared to tree 1244 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,040 cutting on your single family 1245 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,559 residential lot. 1246 00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:03,349 >> And that's where I not necessarily make 1247 00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:03,359 » And that's where I not necessarily make 1248 00:57:03,359 --> 00:57:06,559 a disconnect, but accepting the study is 1249 00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:08,400 easy. Yeah, we accept the studies. get 1250 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,640 steady like I said but uh adjusting the 1251 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,599 fees and getting the blanket acceptance 1252 00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:17,280 versus talking about them in the 1253 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,559 categories for which they exist 1254 00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:24,000 uh before we accept the adjustment in 1255 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,240 the fees. So accepting the study is one 1256 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,920 thing and that's what this resolution 1257 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,760 calls for and acceptance of the study 1258 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,440 and 1259 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,359 fee adjustment 1260 00:57:35,359 --> 00:57:38,799 and all I'm suggesting is chop chop two 1261 00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:42,480 different resolution. One to accept the 1262 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,119 study and we'll deal with the fees 1263 00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:46,880 adjustments 1264 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,960 in whatever categories we find 1265 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,799 necessary. 1266 00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:54,319 That's my observation of it. 1267 00:57:54,319 --> 00:57:55,839 Thank you for that feedback. 1268 00:57:55,839 --> 00:57:58,630 >> Okay, 1269 00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:58,640 » Okay, 1270 00:57:58,640 --> 00:57:59,990 >> Tim. 1271 00:57:59,990 --> 00:58:00,000 » Tim. 1272 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,549 >> Councilwoman Smith, 1273 00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:02,559 » Councilwoman Smith, 1274 00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:07,270 >> I have a question. Director Kawi. Um, so 1275 00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:07,280 » I have a question. Director Kawi. Um, so 1276 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,359 my question is Oh, sorry. My question is 1277 00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:13,200 if 1278 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:20,000 a resident myself, if I had a um a fence 1279 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,240 variance, I recall coming to a meeting 1280 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,319 where a young lady wanted to um modify 1281 00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:29,040 where her line is, fence line or the 1282 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,480 height of the fence or something. I 1283 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,280 think it was the height of the fence. um 1284 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,319 for those type instances. To me, and you 1285 00:58:36,319 --> 00:58:38,480 can correct me if I'm wrong, according 1286 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,400 to this matrix, it looks like it used to 1287 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,960 cost $250 1288 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:53,349 and it goes to $4,000. 1289 00:58:53,359 --> 00:58:54,000 » Do you see? 1290 00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:00,470 >> And I could be wrong. 1291 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,160 I wrote it down, but I didn't write what 1292 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:16,309 page. So, let me try to find it. 1293 00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:18,400 Well, Councilman Councilwoman Smith, 1294 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,119 while you are um searching for the 1295 00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:23,680 variance request, I'm thinking I'm 1296 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,760 assuming that is under um variances so 1297 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:32,240 that it will be not only uh to the 1298 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,040 advantage of someone to continue to uh 1299 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,480 process variances in the city, but to uh 1300 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,760 deter 1301 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,880 in the way because a variance is outside 1302 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,240 of what our ordinance lists. Um there 1303 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,760 are special um exceptions um for a 1304 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,760 variance, but we can go back and assess 1305 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:58,160 those um fees because as it is listed, 1306 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,359 it does say city proposed. So, if you 1307 01:00:01,359 --> 01:00:06,319 see any fees that you do not want at 1308 01:00:06,319 --> 01:00:09,599 that number, I'll just say, or at that 1309 01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:11,599 um fee, 1310 01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:14,000 please provide us that feedback so we 1311 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,960 can um update the information. Again, 1312 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,920 these fees are proposed. You will also 1313 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,119 see what is currently assessed by the 1314 01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:25,440 city. So, the current fees are listed on 1315 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,880 the matrix as well for comparison. 1316 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,520 And as council men Turner said that the 1317 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,119 fee schedule is here for uh review and 1318 01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:39,200 comparison um also with the matrix 1319 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,200 itself for current fees, 1320 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,839 the consultants proposed fees, the 1321 01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:48,240 city's proposed fees and again if 1322 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,799 they're high enough we tried to phase 1323 01:00:50,799 --> 01:00:53,200 them out and not assess that fee in one 1324 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,760 in one year. No. 1325 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,910 >> Um, so I found I found it on page 67. 1326 01:00:59,910 --> 01:00:59,920 » Um, so I found I found it on page 67. 1327 01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,960 Um, residential single family zoning 1328 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,160 districts base and it is listed under 1329 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,559 variances. 1330 01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:11,280 Any variance whether it be me as a 1331 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,359 residential or person residential 1332 01:01:13,359 --> 01:01:16,400 homeowner or if it's a commercial 1333 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,280 variance the the cost is the same. Is 1334 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,960 that what I'm seeing? 1335 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,280 you probably have that updated um 1336 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,240 variance on your because I don't have it 1337 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,400 the packet so I don't have the matrix 1338 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,280 here with me. 1339 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,470 >> Okay. Yeah, it says that our current um 1340 01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:32,480 » Okay. Yeah, it says that our current um 1341 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,200 current cost 1342 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,079 uh current fee is $250 1343 01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:42,789 and then 1344 01:01:42,799 --> 01:01:45,839 um the proposed or city's proposed fee 1345 01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:48,079 is $4,000. 1346 01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:51,839 And of course, you have in year 1, I 1347 01:01:51,839 --> 01:01:54,400 want to say it was in the 700 range. Why 1348 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,400 did I take my glasses off? Cuz I can't 1349 01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:02,150 see. 1350 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,160 Yes, based on the matrix, it does have 1351 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,280 the the current fee of $250 1352 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,559 and it says the $4,111 1353 01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:13,599 as we discussed today and it's 4,000. 1354 01:02:13,599 --> 01:02:18,400 But of course, again, that's a proposed 1355 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,440 request. The consultants did recommend 1356 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,549 $4,11. 1357 01:02:24,559 --> 01:02:27,440 The city is proposing 4,000, but of 1358 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,079 course, we did not assess those fees for 1359 01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:33,119 2027. They are phased, so it goes to 1360 01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:34,640 $785, 1361 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,480 1,321 1362 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,040 until it gets to the five years if you 1363 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,319 want to assess that way. So, if you do 1364 01:02:42,319 --> 01:02:45,520 not want to assess the $4,000, 1365 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:50,079 you can recommend another fee for us to 1366 01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:52,880 recommend in this matrix. 1367 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,829 >> And again, for clarity, 1368 01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:55,839 » And again, for clarity, 1369 01:02:55,839 --> 01:03:00,400 uh me as a resident or a commercial 1370 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,720 builder, we pay the same amount when it 1371 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,960 comes to variances like such. That 1372 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,720 that's what I want to make sure I 1373 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,799 understand properly. it because of the 1374 01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:11,280 changes in the fees and the consultant 1375 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,839 we we did use the consultant's um 1376 01:03:13,839 --> 01:03:16,400 recommendations even with our proposed 1377 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,559 fees we did re do the recommendations 1378 01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:22,799 you will see a base fee and you will see 1379 01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:25,039 um additional variances on the same 1380 01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:27,520 property you know the the cost will 1381 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,839 increase as well so yes that is a 1382 01:03:29,839 --> 01:03:31,920 correct yes answer 1383 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:36,150 >> okay I agree with Councilman Turner that 1384 01:03:36,150 --> 01:03:36,160 » okay I agree with Councilman Turner that 1385 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:42,079 we may want to have this resolution 1386 01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:45,680 divided into two. Um, one, you know, 1387 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:50,079 accepting the the fee study and then 1388 01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:51,760 discussing 1389 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,119 or determining how we 1390 01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:58,240 phrase and phase um, the increase in 1391 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,839 fees moving forward. And thank you. I 1392 01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:03,760 think I was one of the per I think I was 1393 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,359 the person who recommended maybe we do a 1394 01:04:05,359 --> 01:04:07,119 phased approach and you guys came back 1395 01:04:07,119 --> 01:04:10,400 with some phased approaches. [laughter] 1396 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,710 >> So I appreciate that. 1397 01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:12,720 » So I appreciate that. 1398 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,270 >> So just be mindful if you do accept the 1399 01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:15,280 » So just be mindful if you do accept the 1400 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:19,359 um the study these fees that are being 1401 01:04:19,359 --> 01:04:21,520 proposed or recommended are in the study 1402 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,880 as well. So we didn't create them on our 1403 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,839 own just for just for your information. 1404 01:04:27,839 --> 01:04:31,839 I think the thought behind it and I'll 1405 01:04:31,839 --> 01:04:33,920 let Councilman Turner speak from his 1406 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,599 thought process is that a the m the fee 1407 01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:40,160 study was done and we received it. We 1408 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,920 understand that it was done. Somebody 1409 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,440 gave us some numbers. The other piece is 1410 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,280 us determining how we're going to accept 1411 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,079 what was given to us and implement what 1412 01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:55,039 was given to us via the feast study. I 1413 01:04:55,039 --> 01:04:57,200 think that's my thought process behind 1414 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,280 breaking it up into the two pieces, but 1415 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,839 I'll let Councilman Turner speak on his. 1416 01:05:03,839 --> 01:05:07,760 You are correct, ma'am. Um, 1417 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,680 the study 1418 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,920 makes suggestions, 1419 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,119 but it's up to us to accept those 1420 01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:17,520 suggestions or to implement those 1421 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,190 suggestions. 1422 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,000 And we can fully implement them as 1423 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:29,200 outlined or we can make adjustments 1424 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,119 to 1425 01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:33,200 those numbers that have been suggested. 1426 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,750 >> That is our request all along. 1427 01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:35,760 » That is our request all along. 1428 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,150 >> Okay. But to do it blanketly, you say 1429 01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:38,160 » Okay. But to do it blanketly, you say 1430 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,559 you don't want to see this again. 1431 01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:41,029 >> Well, 1432 01:05:41,029 --> 01:05:41,039 » Well, 1433 01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:42,230 >> it would take us a 1434 01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:42,240 » it would take us a 1435 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:43,029 >> for you. 1436 01:05:43,029 --> 01:05:43,039 » for you. 1437 01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:45,910 >> Okay. It would take quite some time to 1438 01:05:45,910 --> 01:05:45,920 » Okay. It would take quite some time to 1439 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,440 do the whole matrix. And that's why I'm 1440 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,720 saying we need to address the parts that 1441 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,520 are most critical to what you have to do 1442 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,400 on a day-to-day basis and uh address 1443 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,160 that. But the rest of it is good to have 1444 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:06,160 handy done by a professional and it's up 1445 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,000 to us to accept them line by line, dot 1446 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,880 by dot. 1447 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:18,240 So I still say two parts accept the 1448 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:23,440 study make the adjustments separately. 1449 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,510 >> Mayor Pro Tim Councilwoman Smith 1450 01:06:27,510 --> 01:06:27,520 » Mayor Pro Tim Councilwoman Smith 1451 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,870 >> Director Kawi are there any items in 1452 01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:30,880 » Director Kawi are there any items in 1453 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,559 this matrix study that you and staff 1454 01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:38,160 feel need to be prioritized and changed 1455 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:43,510 like yesterday? 1456 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,119 You don't have to tell me if there's you 1457 01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:47,039 don't have to tell me the exact items. I 1458 01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:48,960 just want to know are there things in 1459 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:53,440 here that you feel that we are we should 1460 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,359 change as soon as possible. 1461 01:06:55,359 --> 01:06:58,390 >> That's correct. We in our opinion we 1462 01:06:58,390 --> 01:06:58,400 » That's correct. We in our opinion we 1463 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,160 feel like all the fees should be updated 1464 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,960 or amended but yes there are priority 1465 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,200 issues in the study that we need to 1466 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,839 address. 1467 01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:12,799 We don't think that the fees increasing 1468 01:07:12,799 --> 01:07:15,760 will be a deterrent. I can just say that 1469 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,520 part. 1470 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,029 >> Okay. 1471 01:07:19,029 --> 01:07:19,039 » Okay. 1472 01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:22,079 We can discuss a little further. Great. 1473 01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:27,589 >> Okay. Thank you, 1474 01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:31,589 » council. Any other questions? 1475 01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:34,480 Um, Mayor Pro Tim, I think once she send 1476 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,280 the updated report that she has that has 1477 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,039 the different columns in it that you'll 1478 01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:41,200 see it a little bit better than how 1479 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,440 detailed this one is. I think that will 1480 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:48,319 help. And then what the varian is 1481 01:07:48,319 --> 01:07:51,280 that point what needs not revised. We 1482 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,079 all met on it today. 1483 01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:55,750 >> Mike, please. 1484 01:07:55,750 --> 01:07:55,760 » Mike, please. 1485 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,069 >> She has a revised report that we all met 1486 01:07:58,069 --> 01:07:58,079 » She has a revised report that we all met 1487 01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:00,240 today on to discuss to make it a little 1488 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,880 more cleaner and more user friendly. I 1489 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,200 had some questions too and so she's 1490 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,480 going to forward that report to you. 1491 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:07,440 It's different than the one that you 1492 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,119 have may prom. We've even broke it down 1493 01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:10,880 a little further and hopefully that'll 1494 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,960 help. It's a lot of information but I 1495 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,319 think the streamline will make it much 1496 01:08:14,319 --> 01:08:15,680 easier to see the var. 1497 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,269 >> Thank you. Yes, it is a lot of 1498 01:08:17,269 --> 01:08:17,279 » Thank you. Yes, it is a lot of 1499 01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:19,600 information and I understand and see the 1500 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,759 information that's in the report. It's 1501 01:08:21,759 --> 01:08:24,719 just um 1502 01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:29,510 I don't feel the most comfortable 1503 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,640 approving or agreeing to a phased 1504 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,719 approach where um the approach is I see 1505 01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:39,120 two years of the phased approach. So how 1506 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,199 do we move forward after the phased 1507 01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:46,239 approach? So if if we're going to 1508 01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:51,120 um approve what we have, 1509 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,359 then what we have is two years, you 1510 01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:57,359 know, are you coming back to us um after 1511 01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:00,480 the two years to to follow up on this? 1512 01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:04,159 Oh yeah, two. Am I reading properly? 1513 01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:06,239 Yeah, it says two years. The current has 1514 01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:08,719 two years because again as um city 1515 01:09:08,719 --> 01:09:11,279 manager Turner did state it's a lot of 1516 01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:13,600 information and we did not want you to 1517 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,000 be overwhelmed or caught in the weeds 1518 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,640 with this cost this and it's going to 1519 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,520 you know you just see two years but some 1520 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,400 of the columns are hidden for the matter 1521 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,120 of this discussion. So we do have the 1522 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,640 numbers for all the way up to five years 1523 01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,480 and then the assessment some of the 1524 01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:35,600 numbers go beyond the five years if 1525 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,400 we're gradually phasing the cost to not 1526 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,199 be overwhelmed in one year. 1527 01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:43,440 So but again that's at your 1528 01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:46,000 recommendation that you accept our um 1529 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,719 proposed fees and your recommendations 1530 01:09:48,719 --> 01:09:50,319 you know will help us. 1531 01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:53,110 >> Okay. Again, I'll follow up with you 1532 01:09:53,110 --> 01:09:53,120 » Okay. Again, I'll follow up with you 1533 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,679 offline because I would like to know and 1534 01:09:55,679 --> 01:09:57,520 understand some of the ones that you 1535 01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:03,350 feel you and staff feel are a priority. 1536 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,280 » Miss Q, if I remember correctly, I know 1537 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:06,800 parks 1538 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,640 um definitely wanted their fees adjusted 1539 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,560 um so they can move forward with some of 1540 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,239 the programming. Yes. that they wanted 1541 01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:14,560 to 1542 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,270 >> and they to submit a justification for 1543 01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:17,280 » and they to submit a justification for 1544 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,920 those and um all of them were not on 1545 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,520 there because they did hear the 1546 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,520 recommendations from the last meeting. 1547 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:27,360 So you will see new mostly um on the 1548 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,840 summarized one you will see the new fees 1549 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,080 and you won't see any additional fees 1550 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,040 because they're new. So, it was at their 1551 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,800 recommendation that they included these 1552 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,719 fees in here or at your recommendation 1553 01:10:38,719 --> 01:10:41,120 of what they heard before that they 1554 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,199 either lowered the fee or kept the fee 1555 01:10:43,199 --> 01:10:50,070 as it was um currently being assessed. 1556 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,520 » Council, do we have do you have any 1557 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,520 other questions for Director Q, Director 1558 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,870 Kowi? 1559 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,120 » Thank you so much. I appreciate you. 1560 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,110 >> Thank you. 1561 01:11:01,110 --> 01:11:01,120 » Thank you. 1562 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,840 Next on the agenda 1563 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,520 is the cooperation agreement with Stone 1564 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,560 Crest Lonia Industrial Park CI by 1565 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:34,790 Councilman Turner District 4 1566 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,280 The Storm Crest Latonia Industrial Park 1567 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,159 T is 1568 01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:42,800 up and running and they're ready to hit 1569 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,880 the ground running. 1570 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,040 And with that, we need to make sure 1571 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:52,000 there are some guidelines in place or 1572 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,199 what's known as a cooperation agreement 1573 01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:57,440 because they are functioning within the 1574 01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:01,840 limits of the city of Stone Crest. 1575 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,239 And with that comes 1576 01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:07,760 an understanding as to what they can 1577 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,760 cannot do, will or will not do or what 1578 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:17,040 the city can or cannot require of them 1579 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,239 and uh vice versa. 1580 01:12:20,239 --> 01:12:23,679 Um there was a simple draft that follows 1581 01:12:23,679 --> 01:12:27,040 a draft of the cooperation agreement we 1582 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,480 have with the East Metro CD 1583 01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:32,719 and our attorney has looked at it and 1584 01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:36,239 it's been shared with council and staff 1585 01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:40,000 and some tweaks have been offered and uh 1586 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,239 we pretty much have them all fine-tuned 1587 01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:48,000 except for just a couple of items and uh 1588 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,760 I believe that's going to be all in 1589 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,120 place by the next council meeting. But 1590 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:54,800 if you look at your package, you'll see 1591 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,520 it highlighted 1592 01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:01,600 as to what some of the concerns are. 1593 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,600 And some of those concerns have already 1594 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,760 been addressed. 1595 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,080 And uh without going into a lot of 1596 01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,800 detail, it's just a matter of 1597 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,679 understanding that 1598 01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:17,440 this organization 1599 01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:22,560 is a body that is quasi 1600 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,400 governmental 1601 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,280 and uh they work within the bounds in 1602 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,920 this case within the bounds of Stone 1603 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,239 Crest and uh 1604 01:13:32,239 --> 01:13:33,440 some of the things that they will be 1605 01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:37,199 doing may well parallel what Stone Crest 1606 01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:38,640 is doing. There's got to be some 1607 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,600 guidelines as it relates to that and as 1608 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,480 partners, we're working together on 1609 01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:46,640 certain items. So, there's an 1610 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,600 understanding with that as to how we 1611 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,520 shall accomplish certain 1612 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,560 um objectives here. Give you an example. 1613 01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:01,280 uh code enforcement. If they um 1614 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,000 deal with code enforcement issues within 1615 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,360 the CD itself, they may well be able to 1616 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,760 assist the city and getting some of that 1617 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,560 done. But to do it without cooperation 1618 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,840 with the city would not be the best 1619 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,080 approach. So to have this agreement as 1620 01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:22,640 to what we can and cannot do as a 1621 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,440 partnership, so to speak. So, uh, the 1622 01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:27,760 document is there. Uh, we've gone 1623 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,960 through it and our city attorney, as 1624 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,520 Miss Thompson, had the last version of 1625 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:38,159 it and was, uh, updating 1626 01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:41,600 the comments last received, and I'm not 1627 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,560 sure as to exactly what the status is of 1628 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,480 as of today because I did not discuss it 1629 01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:48,960 today, expecting her to be here with it. 1630 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,520 But, um, Mr. City attorney, do you have 1631 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,120 any updates? 1632 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,360 I'm not 100% sure where she's at in the 1633 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:56,960 review process, but I can follow up with 1634 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,080 her in the morning and give you an 1635 01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:58,880 update. 1636 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,110 >> Good. We want to have it ready for the 1637 01:15:01,110 --> 01:15:01,120 » Good. We want to have it ready for the 1638 01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,199 next agenda 1639 01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:06,640 uh item, mean for the next um council 1640 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,360 meeting as an agenda item so we can 1641 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,030 >> And I want to say attorney Thompson 1642 01:15:11,030 --> 01:15:11,040 » And I want to say attorney Thompson 1643 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,320 should be online. 1644 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,870 >> Is she online? She's not online. Okay. 1645 01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:16,880 » Is she online? She's not online. Okay. 1646 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,560 Thank you. 1647 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,590 >> Okay. But that's all I have on that 1648 01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:21,600 » Okay. But that's all I have on that 1649 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:22,960 unless there are some additional 1650 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,960 questions. And I know we've talked to 1651 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,280 council about getting your concerns 1652 01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,760 either through me or to Miss Thompson so 1653 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,719 we can make sure that we talk about it 1654 01:15:32,719 --> 01:15:36,080 and fine-tune it. And uh again, it's in 1655 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,640 your package. That which is highlighted 1656 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,040 in yellow 1657 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,360 is what's being uh discussed and being 1658 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,560 uh worked out. 1659 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,990 Any questions? 1660 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,520 Mayor Pro Tim Councilwoman Smith. 1661 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:57,590 >> Um, Senate City Manager Turner. Uh, have 1662 01:15:57,590 --> 01:15:57,600 » Um, Senate City Manager Turner. Uh, have 1663 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,560 you received any feedback on the CD? A 1664 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,040 constituent called me and said that she 1665 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:04,880 was going to reach out to you because 1666 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,040 she had some questions and concerns as 1667 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:08,960 it relates to something I actually 1668 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,120 raised in the first meeting. Um, the 1669 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:15,040 commitment of the staff to 1670 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,199 the time commitment of staff. So, have 1671 01:16:17,199 --> 01:16:20,560 you received any calls on this? 1672 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,229 >> I haven't received any calls, but if you 1673 01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:22,239 » I haven't received any calls, but if you 1674 01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:23,760 can let me know who it is, I can follow 1675 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:24,239 up. 1676 01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:26,470 >> So, in our previous meeting when we 1677 01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:26,480 » So, in our previous meeting when we 1678 01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:30,719 talked about the C, I mentioned um there 1679 01:16:30,719 --> 01:16:33,360 was no stipulation surrounding how much 1680 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,480 time would be required from the staff. 1681 01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:40,400 And I asked that the city attorney take 1682 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,920 that action item to kind of determine 1683 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:48,159 how much time commitment you could 1684 01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:50,239 provide and the frequency of the 1685 01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:52,800 meetings for you guys to kind of have a 1686 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,360 discussion on that piece and provide 1687 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,080 some feedback on it. So that's an action 1688 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,640 item for you please. Um and we can 1689 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,840 discuss it a little bit further. 1690 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,960 If I may follow up on that. 1691 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:07,590 >> Yes. 1692 01:17:07,590 --> 01:17:07,600 » Yes. 1693 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:08,950 >> It's a matter of how much time will be 1694 01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:08,960 » It's a matter of how much time will be 1695 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,640 required of the staff. It's how much 1696 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,360 time is requested of the staff. And uh 1697 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,360 again, it's up to us as to how much we 1698 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,040 can uh up to staff and city managers to 1699 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,800 how much we can provide. But to be 1700 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,719 requested is one thing and to be able to 1701 01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:27,600 deliver is another. And I can appreciate 1702 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,880 the zealousness and ready to go get it. 1703 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,440 But at the same time we have to be in a 1704 01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:37,120 position to deliver because uh our time 1705 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:42,320 is demanded from a lot of agencies. 1706 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,189 >> My sentiments exactly 1707 01:17:45,189 --> 01:17:45,199 » My sentiments exactly 1708 01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:47,590 >> my sentiments. Exactly. 1709 01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:47,600 » my sentiments. Exactly. 1710 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,470 >> Okay. Then we're on the same page. Okay. 1711 01:17:50,470 --> 01:17:50,480 » Okay. Then we're on the same page. Okay. 1712 01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:53,110 >> Um and then 1713 01:17:53,110 --> 01:17:53,120 » Um and then 1714 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,520 I I do have a couple other things. Um 1715 01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:59,679 Councilman Turner. Um but I will we can 1716 01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:03,120 have a dialogue. Um because I see some 1717 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,080 things in here like I mentioned in our 1718 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,719 last meeting um the agreement being the 1719 01:18:08,719 --> 01:18:11,760 50 years. However, either of us can 1720 01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,840 decide to 1721 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:18,640 um terminate in 30 days. So 1722 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,840 maybe we should um discuss a bit 1723 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,840 further. Um the 50-year agreement like I 1724 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,440 mentioned many of us will be might be 1725 01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:32,880 might not be here in 50 years but if 50 1726 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,199 years is something that we want to hold 1727 01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:38,800 fast to or if there's something that 1728 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,480 that's something that we would like to 1729 01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:44,560 or may want to discuss adjusting. 1730 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,560 Um, that's what I think for the 1731 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,640 attorneys and that is that I know that 1732 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,600 when you enter into certain operation 1733 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,199 that might involve bonding or long-term 1734 01:18:55,199 --> 01:18:58,000 commitment with other legal entities, 1735 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,640 uh, that 50 or 100year 1736 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,280 uh, stipulation is common. Is that not 1737 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,920 true? 1738 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:07,750 >> I think it would depend on the nature of 1739 01:19:07,750 --> 01:19:07,760 » I think it would depend on the nature of 1740 01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,480 the agreement. 1741 01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:14,229 >> That's a lawyer answer. Okay. 1742 01:19:14,229 --> 01:19:14,239 » That's a lawyer answer. Okay. 1743 01:19:14,239 --> 01:19:18,000 And um just like you know marriage, you 1744 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,679 enter a marriage, you don't expect 1745 01:19:19,679 --> 01:19:21,360 anything negative to happen. So 1746 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,000 sometimes there are prenuptuals 1747 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,800 that are put in place. What happens when 1748 01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:31,280 the CI and the city don't agree on a 1749 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,480 project? How conflict resolution like 1750 01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:36,560 how do we handle those things? Do we 1751 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,679 outline that in um the resolution that 1752 01:19:39,679 --> 01:19:43,120 we're prop proposing? Is there another 1753 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,120 document or process somewhere that 1754 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,000 regulates that interaction? Where does 1755 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,159 where where do we 1756 01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:54,470 >> I would say that city trumps because C 1757 01:19:54,470 --> 01:19:54,480 » I would say that city trumps because C 1758 01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:57,199 can't do anything without cooperation of 1759 01:19:57,199 --> 01:20:00,640 the city if it overlaps city operations. 1760 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,120 Say for instance they want to change uh 1761 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:04,800 something that has to do with the 1762 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,400 streets. 1763 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,560 uh unless the city agrees to it, they 1764 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:12,719 cannot change um anything within the 1765 01:20:12,719 --> 01:20:15,040 rightway. 1766 01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:16,640 No, there there are limits and and this 1767 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,880 is not new. We have I think about 12 or 1768 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,080 13 CS within the cav county and these 1769 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,040 are typical agreements. Uh so I don't 1770 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:30,080 think there's any risk of one violating 1771 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,480 the space of the other. That's why we 1772 01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:34,880 need these cooperation agreement and if 1773 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,400 regular communication but the C cannot 1774 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,560 trump city operation. It can't go out 1775 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,040 there and take down your traffic light 1776 01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,719 or change the direction of traffic on 1777 01:20:44,719 --> 01:20:48,080 the street. Um if there's a concern with 1778 01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,920 it, it has to be worked with in uh with 1779 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,960 the city city engineering and city staff 1780 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,800 to get anything done that impacts city 1781 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,880 operation. I think that's in the first 1782 01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:02,960 part of that agreement and that is that 1783 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:07,840 they cannot um I forget the word used 1784 01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:13,669 but they cannot trump city operation. 1785 01:21:13,679 --> 01:21:17,120 Okay. Um, the other question that I 1786 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,280 have, and again you can tell me where 1787 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,719 this typically lives, is the what we're 1788 01:21:22,719 --> 01:21:25,120 requesting of the CI as it relates to 1789 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:29,760 reporting um the as it relates to the 1790 01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,080 taxes, financial documents that they 1791 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,239 have. What are we requesting of them? 1792 01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:37,760 And what should they be providing to us? 1793 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:42,239 I don't see that in here. Um, so is that 1794 01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:45,840 something that goes into this or is 1795 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,400 there another place where those 1796 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,960 requirements live? 1797 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,790 >> They have a board of directors and that 1798 01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:54,800 » They have a board of directors and that 1799 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,239 board of directors has a set of 1800 01:21:56,239 --> 01:21:58,960 guidelines that they must adhere to in 1801 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:02,159 order to remain um 1802 01:22:02,159 --> 01:22:05,760 what you say uh in compliance 1803 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,239 and uh they will be audited on a regular 1804 01:22:08,239 --> 01:22:09,679 basis. 1805 01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:11,280 I mean regular I would say annually they 1806 01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,239 will be audited and uh we have two 1807 01:22:14,239 --> 01:22:16,880 members on that board well two 1808 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,080 appointees on that board and they're 1809 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:21,679 following the guidelines and regulations 1810 01:22:21,679 --> 01:22:24,880 of all CIDs within the CAB county or 1811 01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,280 probably within the state of Georgia. So 1812 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,080 have no fear. Those guidelines must be 1813 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:31,920 adhered to if they are to remain 1814 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:40,709 bonafideed as a CD. 1815 01:22:40,719 --> 01:22:44,070 Understood. 1816 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,480 I just want to ensure that if there's 1817 01:22:46,480 --> 01:22:50,080 something that transparency again um 1818 01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,480 transparency is important and I want to 1819 01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:55,360 ensure that if we're requesting 1820 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,000 transparency that we're able to actually 1821 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,480 receive transparency and if that means 1822 01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:01,679 that we have to have something 1823 01:23:01,679 --> 01:23:04,239 documented in order to ensure we get 1824 01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:08,880 that transparency or not. You can get it 1825 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,880 document if you're so inclined to get it 1826 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,920 and I was told it's not in writing but I 1827 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,480 can get it in writing that we will get a 1828 01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:20,320 copy of each agenda item I think about 1829 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,719 six to seven days in advance and will be 1830 01:23:22,719 --> 01:23:25,760 published in uh the uh public uh 1831 01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,920 newspaper as to when that meetings will 1832 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:29,600 take place. The minutes of their 1833 01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,320 meetings will also be uh published as 1834 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,880 well and uh I'm not sure whether will be 1835 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,000 broadcast live or not but uh you will 1836 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,880 have access to attend and like I said we 1837 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,400 have two members that we appoint to give 1838 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,040 us an upto-date and to participate in 1839 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,320 the process so we'll have access to know 1840 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:54,560 what's going on with the C and um you 1841 01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,360 can attend if you're so inclined because 1842 01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:58,880 they 1843 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,280 been volunteered that that information 1844 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:05,360 will be made available to not just the 1845 01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,239 council but to the general citizens of 1846 01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:10,320 the city of Stone Crest. 1847 01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,590 >> Yes. And that is the expectation not 1848 01:24:13,590 --> 01:24:13,600 » Yes. And that is the expectation not 1849 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,800 just the council but to the citizens of 1850 01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,840 Stone Crest. And um my plan is to attend 1851 01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,719 the first meeting um if my schedule 1852 01:24:22,719 --> 01:24:26,639 permits. I attend I plan to attend. So, 1853 01:24:26,639 --> 01:24:30,320 um, any other discussion or questions I 1854 01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,040 have, we can kind of exchange offline. 1855 01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:33,360 Thank you. 1856 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,590 >> Thank you very much, 1857 01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:35,600 » Thank you very much, 1858 01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,350 >> council. Any other questions 1859 01:24:39,350 --> 01:24:39,360 » council. Any other questions 1860 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:43,120 for Councilman Turner, 1861 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:48,709 Councilman Turner? Um, 1862 01:24:48,719 --> 01:24:50,480 who established what are the baseline 1863 01:24:50,480 --> 01:24:52,239 city services? Do we have a list of the 1864 01:24:52,239 --> 01:24:57,189 baseline city services? 1865 01:24:57,199 --> 01:25:00,800 I really can't address. You said 1866 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,719 baseline city services, 1867 01:25:02,719 --> 01:25:03,990 >> right? That's what's listed in the 1868 01:25:03,990 --> 01:25:04,000 » right? That's what's listed in the 1869 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,600 agreement. They said it would help 1870 01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,080 alongside supplement the baseline city 1871 01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:09,920 services. So, I wanted to know if we had 1872 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:11,840 a list of what those baseline city 1873 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,520 services were. Uh we can get that 1874 01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,920 through our engineering and uh I'm open 1875 01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,760 to our city manager's office uh as well. 1876 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:23,199 But um that's rather general as to 1877 01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:25,520 baseline. Uh what are the three services 1878 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,520 that we provide? 1879 01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:28,870 >> So that's what we're referring to. 1880 01:25:28,870 --> 01:25:28,880 » So that's what we're referring to. 1881 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,790 >> That's what I would uh interpret. But uh 1882 01:25:30,790 --> 01:25:30,800 » That's what I would uh interpret. But uh 1883 01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,120 don't hold me to that. Let me uh give 1884 01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,520 you a clearer answer 1885 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,560 at a later date. 1886 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,310 >> Okay. 1887 01:25:40,310 --> 01:25:40,320 » Okay. 1888 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,320 Any 1889 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:47,030 other questions for Councilman Turner? 1890 01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:48,719 Next on the Thank you, Councilman 1891 01:25:48,719 --> 01:25:51,440 Turner. I appreciate you as well. Next 1892 01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:54,800 on the agenda is for discussion economic 1893 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,199 development department update by 1894 01:25:57,199 --> 01:27:32,870 Director Lance Randall. 1895 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,360 Thank you. Sorry about that. I'll start 1896 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,239 over. Um, 1897 01:27:38,239 --> 01:27:39,600 I want to thank Mayor Cobble in her 1898 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,280 absence, 1899 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,920 Mayor Pro Tim, city council members, and 1900 01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:45,920 the city manager, those in the audience, 1901 01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:47,679 and also online for the opportunity to 1902 01:27:47,679 --> 01:27:49,679 share information about the economic 1903 01:27:49,679 --> 01:27:52,000 development department of Stone Crest. 1904 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:53,760 Uh, I want to start off with a brief 1905 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,159 introduction. U, this is the first time 1906 01:27:56,159 --> 01:27:59,040 I've had a chance to present 1907 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,440 and some people may not know who I am 1908 01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:03,760 and may not know who my colleague is 1909 01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,639 that that works with me. So I want to 1910 01:28:06,639 --> 01:28:08,560 very quickly introduce myself. I'm Lance 1911 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,000 Randall. Been doing economic development 1912 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,480 for about 32 years on the east coast and 1913 01:28:12,480 --> 01:28:15,440 the west coast. Work for several several 1914 01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:17,120 different municipalities and nonprofit 1915 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,040 organizations. 1916 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,440 And now here in Stone Crest, I'm very 1917 01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:23,280 proud to be in Stone Crest being the 1918 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,760 leader of the department. 1919 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,280 Uh my colleague Katrina McClendon 1920 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:30,960 um has been doing economic development 1921 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,679 for about 20 years. U most of her 1922 01:28:33,679 --> 01:28:36,560 background is in higher education, 1923 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,480 but she um has been doing economic 1924 01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:40,639 development with with technical colleges 1925 01:28:40,639 --> 01:28:43,440 around the area um in the south part of 1926 01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:46,080 the of the state here in Dicap County 1927 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:49,040 and also in the state of Col state of 1928 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,760 South Carolina and Colombia. So um we're 1929 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,080 looking forward to um bringing on 1930 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,280 another person that will be a business 1931 01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:00,400 development manager also. Um let me back 1932 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,800 up just a little bit. Katrina focuses on 1933 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,280 recruiting, retention and expansion and 1934 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,520 also workforce development. The new 1935 01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,080 person that we want to bring on 1936 01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,560 we also focus on recruiting, retention 1937 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,199 and expansion and tourism which is part 1938 01:29:15,199 --> 01:29:18,560 of our target industries in the work 1939 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,040 that we do. 1940 01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:24,080 Just want to show you a definition of 1941 01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,800 economic development as given to us by 1942 01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,480 the international economic development 1943 01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:31,920 council. I won't read through all of it, 1944 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,199 but the one thing that I wanted to 1945 01:29:35,199 --> 01:29:38,000 highlight at the end of the statement 1946 01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,000 about economic development and our role 1947 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,000 as a city, 1948 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,480 our role is to create the conditions 1949 01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:46,719 that better enable businesses to compete 1950 01:29:46,719 --> 01:29:50,000 and thrive. which means that we are to 1951 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,440 be prepared to receive 1952 01:29:53,440 --> 01:29:56,960 any businesses from around the globe who 1953 01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:58,719 decide they would like to operate here 1954 01:29:58,719 --> 01:30:03,669 in the city of Stone Crest. 1955 01:30:03,679 --> 01:30:05,920 We are dedicated to attracting, 1956 01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,480 supporting, and retaining businesses and 1957 01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:10,159 industries that drive the city's 1958 01:30:10,159 --> 01:30:14,000 economic growth and community vitality. 1959 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:15,760 That is our mission. That is what we do 1960 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,400 every day. And that what's that is what 1961 01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,159 we thrive to make happen on a regular 1962 01:30:20,159 --> 01:30:23,270 basis. 1963 01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:28,560 Just remind you our um target industries 1964 01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,120 consist of well the things that we do. 1965 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:32,880 I'm sorry business retention expansion 1966 01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,080 which is taking care of the businesses 1967 01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,400 that we already have here to make sure 1968 01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,120 that they can overcome their challenges 1969 01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,600 as they continue to try to operate. We 1970 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,120 also work with businesses that looking 1971 01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:46,159 to expand in the community. 1972 01:30:46,159 --> 01:30:48,159 Business traction and recruiting is only 1973 01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:50,880 5% of our work, but it's very important 1974 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,360 as many businesses from around the the 1975 01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,840 world to be honest may have an interest 1976 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,639 in Stone Crest and it's our job to make 1977 01:30:58,639 --> 01:31:00,880 sure when we're on the list that they 1978 01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,840 are considering but locating their 1979 01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,320 businesses that we stay on the list as I 1980 01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,880 mentioned earlier by providing things 1981 01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,120 that they need are required in order to 1982 01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,120 be able to operate their business here 1983 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,080 in Stone Crest. We also focus on 1984 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:17,920 workforce development. It's important 1985 01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,800 that our students have opportunities for 1986 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,120 employment once they graduate. 1987 01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:24,639 And we also want to make sure incumbent 1988 01:31:24,639 --> 01:31:26,560 workers who lo lose their jobs have 1989 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:28,880 opportunity to get restrained so that 1990 01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:32,639 they continue to work. and tourism, 1991 01:31:32,639 --> 01:31:36,719 agro tourism in specific which is one of 1992 01:31:36,719 --> 01:31:40,400 the prides of our area with um Arabia 1993 01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,360 Mountain and other trails that walk 1994 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,840 around the city. It's very important 1995 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,960 that we focus on tourism to bring people 1996 01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,520 here to enjoy the natural beauty beauty 1997 01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:55,110 of Stone Crest. 1998 01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:58,320 Now I want to talk briefly about our 1999 01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,719 target industries which are film and 2000 01:32:00,719 --> 01:32:03,600 entertainment, professional services, 2001 01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,480 healthc care, light manufacturing and 2002 01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:09,520 transportation and logistics. 2003 01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,960 Um we focus on these industries to make 2004 01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:15,760 sure that we're taking advantage of the 2005 01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,159 assets that we have that will attract 2006 01:32:18,159 --> 01:32:20,400 these type of businesses to our 2007 01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:25,520 community. So, it's important that we um 2008 01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:29,280 understand what these sectors consist of 2009 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,280 and that we work very closely with the 2010 01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:32,719 existing businesses that are already 2011 01:32:32,719 --> 01:32:35,280 here that are in these sectors to make 2012 01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,440 sure they stay in place. And we also 2013 01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:38,960 depend on these businesses in these 2014 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,679 sectors to help us recruit businesses 2015 01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:44,080 that are interested in coming to Stone 2016 01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:47,760 Crest. What better way to encourage 2017 01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,080 others who have an interest than to 2018 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,639 present those that are already here and 2019 01:32:52,639 --> 01:32:54,159 let them speak of the things we're doing 2020 01:32:54,159 --> 01:32:59,350 to keep them in place. 2021 01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:02,719 We um also I want to talk about the 2022 01:33:02,719 --> 01:33:05,600 Sunrest Film Commission which is a very 2023 01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,639 important part of our department. 2024 01:33:08,639 --> 01:33:11,120 This commission was created 2025 01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:12,639 um as a response to the Georgia 2026 01:33:12,639 --> 01:33:15,040 Entertainment Industry Investment Act of 2027 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,400 2008 that provided 30% of tax credits 2028 01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,159 toward any qualified entertainment 2029 01:33:20,159 --> 01:33:23,040 projects want to come to Georgia. So it 2030 01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:24,320 was established to make sure that we 2031 01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:25,840 could take advantage of that. We do have 2032 01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:28,880 some beautiful sites and locations where 2033 01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,520 filming can take place. 2034 01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:35,360 Originally um the responsibility of the 2035 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,400 commission was to assist with filming 2036 01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,000 locations 2037 01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,000 also doing the permitting providing 2038 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:43,679 incentives 2039 01:33:43,679 --> 01:33:47,040 things of those nature but uh we have a 2040 01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:48,639 relationship with the cab county film 2041 01:33:48,639 --> 01:33:51,520 commission and they on behalf of all the 2042 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,560 13 cities here in Dicap County they take 2043 01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,320 care of all those things for us which 2044 01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,800 means that our role is very limited when 2045 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:02,560 it comes to the film industry But since 2046 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,560 we are the only film commission in Dicab 2047 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:08,480 County, other cities do not have one, we 2048 01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:11,679 have one. We want to make sure that when 2049 01:34:11,679 --> 01:34:15,199 people do decide to come and film or 2050 01:34:15,199 --> 01:34:17,440 produce in Stone Crest, that we are 2051 01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:19,600 there to provide support to make sure 2052 01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,040 that their time here while they were 2053 01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:25,360 filming was enjoyable and productive. 2054 01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,000 We've somewhat shifted gears and focused 2055 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:29,679 a lot on the entertainment portion of 2056 01:34:29,679 --> 01:34:31,199 the commission. 2057 01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:33,679 They're working with aspiring filmmakers 2058 01:34:33,679 --> 01:34:35,840 and entertainers and they're hosting 2059 01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,719 events here in Stone Crest with our 2060 01:34:38,719 --> 01:34:42,320 youth and adults to prepare them from 2061 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,239 opportunities in the film and 2062 01:34:44,239 --> 01:34:45,760 entertainment 2063 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,239 sector. Um they've been very active 2064 01:34:48,239 --> 01:34:51,199 already. They've held a couple of events 2065 01:34:51,199 --> 01:34:53,520 for our youth and have scheduled more 2066 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:58,070 events for the rest of the year. 2067 01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:00,159 We've established or reestablished our 2068 01:35:00,159 --> 01:35:02,560 relationship with our key partners 2069 01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:03,679 through the Department of Economic 2070 01:35:03,679 --> 01:35:05,120 Development. We're now working very 2071 01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,679 closely with them to assist us with 2072 01:35:07,679 --> 01:35:10,719 information and also referrals to bring 2073 01:35:10,719 --> 01:35:13,120 businesses to here here to the um city 2074 01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,280 of Stone Crest. 2075 01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:17,840 Georgia Power Economic Development work 2076 01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,239 working very closely with them as well. 2077 01:35:20,239 --> 01:35:23,040 We've had meetings with them about some 2078 01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:24,639 industries that have shown interest in 2079 01:35:24,639 --> 01:35:28,080 coming here to Stone Crest and they are 2080 01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,800 um waiting for us to reach out to them 2081 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,560 when we have opportunities and they're 2082 01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,000 providing opportunities as well. They 2083 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,280 may ask questions about buildings, 2084 01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,440 infrastructure needs, things like that. 2085 01:35:39,440 --> 01:35:41,760 So, we are prepared to receive 2086 01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:43,040 businesses that are interested in coming 2087 01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:46,960 to Stone Crest that have power needs. Um 2088 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,520 we are we continue to build and 2089 01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:50,719 cultivate our relationship with the side 2090 01:35:50,719 --> 01:35:54,080 the cab. We depend on them to provide us 2091 01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,719 information on sites help us connect 2092 01:35:56,719 --> 01:36:00,080 businesses with key people around um the 2093 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,080 city and even the county and the state 2094 01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,880 with Georgia Power as well and they also 2095 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:06,639 provide us assistance when it comes to 2096 01:36:06,639 --> 01:36:10,000 finding buildings and sites for 2097 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,239 potential prospects. 2098 01:36:12,239 --> 01:36:14,239 The CAB chamber provides different 2099 01:36:14,239 --> 01:36:16,400 events for those businesses that land 2100 01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,800 here and different activities to get 2101 01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,199 them tied into the network. Discover the 2102 01:36:21,199 --> 01:36:24,080 cab with tourism business alliance of 2103 01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,639 Stone Crest East Metro and of course the 2104 01:36:26,639 --> 01:36:28,960 newest partner which is the Lonian 2105 01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,040 Industrial Park Community Improvement 2106 01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:32,400 District. We're going to be working with 2107 01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,880 them to provide whatever we support we 2108 01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:38,239 can to make them successful, but we also 2109 01:36:38,239 --> 01:36:39,760 are going to rely on them to help us 2110 01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,400 recruit um manufacturing light 2111 01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,119 manufacturing businesses to the area. I 2112 01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:47,760 want to give you a snapshot 2113 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:51,520 of the businesses in Stone Crest. 2114 01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:54,239 Currently, we have about 1,110 2115 01:36:54,239 --> 01:36:55,760 businesses 2116 01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,800 that we were able to verify through the 2117 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,040 revenue department that have business 2118 01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:04,560 licenses to operate in Stone Crest. 2119 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,159 Of those businesses, the industry 2120 01:37:06,159 --> 01:37:07,840 clusters, the majority of the businesses 2121 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,239 are in retail 2122 01:37:10,239 --> 01:37:13,440 and the second largest is restaurants. 2123 01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:16,320 and then the rest of you see um on the 2124 01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,560 graph shows you the breakdown of the 2125 01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,040 industry clusters that are operating 2126 01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,520 here in Stone Crest. 2127 01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:24,800 The other thing I thought was quite 2128 01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,920 interesting for council to see is the 2129 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:29,119 number of businesses that are in your 2130 01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:31,600 district. Of course, the majority of 2131 01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,480 districts are in district one 2132 01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:36,719 and the least amount of businesses that 2133 01:37:36,719 --> 01:37:38,480 are registered to operate are in 2134 01:37:38,480 --> 01:37:40,560 district five, 2135 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,560 but we do have um a database where we 2136 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,040 keep this information and other 2137 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,199 information that we can provide on these 2138 01:37:47,199 --> 01:37:49,920 businesses. 2139 01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:51,600 We want to talk about some stone press 2140 01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,239 projects that we're working on. 2141 01:37:54,239 --> 01:37:56,560 U most times projects want to remain 2142 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,480 confidential but these particular 2143 01:37:58,480 --> 01:38:00,960 projects did not have a problem with us 2144 01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,600 mentioning them what they have going on. 2145 01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:07,040 Um the old Crystal location that caught 2146 01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:09,600 on fire some years ago at the corner of 2147 01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,199 Evans Mill um there was discussion with 2148 01:38:13,199 --> 01:38:16,480 the owner of the Crystal to have a 2149 01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:19,760 Dunkin Donuts and another restaurant to 2150 01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,000 come to that location. The question they 2151 01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:23,520 asked us with, could they keep the 2152 01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:26,400 drive-thru? And working with Director Q, 2153 01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:27,760 we determined they could keep the 2154 01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:29,840 drive-thru since one was there before. 2155 01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:32,480 So, we're waiting on them to 2156 01:38:32,480 --> 01:38:35,199 work out the lease arrangements 2157 01:38:35,199 --> 01:38:38,400 with the um property owner so that they 2158 01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:40,080 can move forward with the appropriate 2159 01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,960 process. Marshall has a warehouse here 2160 01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,040 in Stone Crest. They're looking to 2161 01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:47,040 expand the operation by adding another 2162 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:50,080 parking lot for their trucks. We're 2163 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:51,280 working with them trying to find that 2164 01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,440 property. Director Q and I met with 2165 01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:55,119 them. We identified a piece of property 2166 01:38:55,119 --> 01:38:57,040 that would require that would require an 2167 01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,520 easement. So, they may not be looking at 2168 01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:00,719 that property, but they're still looking 2169 01:39:00,719 --> 01:39:02,719 at something here in Stone Crest, and we 2170 01:39:02,719 --> 01:39:04,480 want to make sure that we keep them 2171 01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:09,600 here. Chipotle has submitted their um 2172 01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,440 application to set up a location on 2173 01:39:11,440 --> 01:39:14,719 Coington Highway. Um we're waiting for 2174 01:39:14,719 --> 01:39:17,600 them to finish their due diligence and 2175 01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:18,800 other things they need to do with the 2176 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,960 company to get that going. And then 2177 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,440 three projects that that's come to us as 2178 01:39:23,440 --> 01:39:26,080 of recently. Carver Jones is a market 2179 01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,639 that reached out through the Stone Crest 2180 01:39:28,639 --> 01:39:31,040 Chamber, Mr. Thomas Ford who was trying 2181 01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:34,000 to get the chamber reestablished, but 2182 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:35,840 while he's doing that thought enough of 2183 01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,239 us to send us Carver Jones as a 2184 01:39:38,239 --> 01:39:39,920 potential opportunity. We get did get a 2185 01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,320 chance to meet with the owner as well as 2186 01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,800 JL Collins which is a beverage 2187 01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:46,960 distributor. Had an opportunity to meet 2188 01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,119 with them as well. They're taking a look 2189 01:39:49,119 --> 01:39:51,280 at Stone Crest looking at property where 2190 01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:54,239 they can set up their locations here. 2191 01:39:54,239 --> 01:39:56,800 And then just a couple weeks ago, 2192 01:39:56,800 --> 01:40:00,080 um Dr. McClendon, my my counterpart, 2193 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:01,840 brought in Pin and Feathers, which has 2194 01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:04,159 about nine restaurants around the area. 2195 01:40:04,159 --> 01:40:06,000 They are interested in setting up here 2196 01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,480 in Stone Crest. 2197 01:40:08,480 --> 01:40:10,239 want to talk a little bit about the new 2198 01:40:10,239 --> 01:40:12,800 businesses that came in this year and 2199 01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:16,080 part of last year. Busy be Play Cafe 2200 01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,239 which is off of M Parkway set up 2201 01:40:18,239 --> 01:40:20,719 operations just recently. Sweet Pepper 2202 01:40:20,719 --> 01:40:22,400 Kitchen 2203 01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:24,719 over there um in the um plaza with Ross 2204 01:40:24,719 --> 01:40:27,119 just set up excuse me and we're still 2205 01:40:27,119 --> 01:40:29,600 waiting in the New York pizza 2206 01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,239 um establishment to open up. They've 2207 01:40:32,239 --> 01:40:34,000 been doing a lot of construction. It's 2208 01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:35,760 my understanding that they're trying to 2209 01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:37,679 get some things through the Cab County 2210 01:40:37,679 --> 01:40:41,669 Fire Department. 2211 01:40:41,679 --> 01:40:43,119 As you know, we we lost several 2212 01:40:43,119 --> 01:40:44,880 different businesses. Most of them are 2213 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,600 retail and restaurants. 2214 01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:48,960 Um here's the list. I'm pretty sure 2215 01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,679 everyone is aware of it, but a lot of 2216 01:40:51,679 --> 01:40:53,440 people ask the question, how did it 2217 01:40:53,440 --> 01:40:56,880 happen and why did it happen? 2218 01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:58,880 Um there's some national trends that are 2219 01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:01,119 going on with the economy 2220 01:41:01,119 --> 01:41:04,960 and we are not immune to those trends. 2221 01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,840 Um we are also being impacted when it 2222 01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:09,679 comes to national national restaurant 2223 01:41:09,679 --> 01:41:13,440 change. Um inflation and the rising cost 2224 01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:15,119 has reduced the margins of these 2225 01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:17,520 businesses. Customers are choosing not 2226 01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:21,360 to go and eat out as much because of the 2227 01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,600 of the economy. 2228 01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,760 Um there's been a lot of mergers and 2229 01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:29,440 investments from venture capitalists and 2230 01:41:29,440 --> 01:41:32,400 hedge fund managers in purchasing 2231 01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,280 different restaurants and merging them. 2232 01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:36,880 Those are not doing very well right now. 2233 01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:38,159 They're falling apart. So they're 2234 01:41:38,159 --> 01:41:40,560 starting to to offload because of cash 2235 01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,199 flow issues and we're still having some 2236 01:41:43,199 --> 01:41:44,719 effects from the pandemic. People still 2237 01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:46,800 trying to recover. When you talk about 2238 01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:51,119 retail again, rising cost, here's 2239 01:41:51,119 --> 01:41:52,960 something that's interesting. Too many 2240 01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:54,880 retail retail stores are offering the 2241 01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:56,239 same thing which means that people have 2242 01:41:56,239 --> 01:41:58,480 different choices of where to go. So now 2243 01:41:58,480 --> 01:42:00,560 you have a price wars on similar 2244 01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:02,480 products and some can compete and others 2245 01:42:02,480 --> 01:42:04,639 cannot and those who can't compete they 2246 01:42:04,639 --> 01:42:06,560 shut down. 2247 01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,199 Stoppers are also purchasing at bulk, 2248 01:42:09,199 --> 01:42:11,360 which means that they're looking more 2249 01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:13,760 toward the large warehouse operations 2250 01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:17,280 like Costco and BJs and Sam's and not so 2251 01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:19,679 much with the retail operations. 2252 01:42:19,679 --> 01:42:22,400 And then international retailers are 2253 01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:23,920 starting to come in. All these are 2254 01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:25,760 international companies. Others are 2255 01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,080 coming in from outside the United States 2256 01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:29,600 and they're bringing their supply chain 2257 01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:31,840 with them and they are competing with 2258 01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:34,560 our domestic domestic businesses that 2259 01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:36,639 are here. and of course the overall 2260 01:42:36,639 --> 01:42:38,239 economy. 2261 01:42:38,239 --> 01:42:42,080 So when you talk about the the closings 2262 01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,800 of these businesses, majority of my 2263 01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:48,239 restaurants and retail chains, it's part 2264 01:42:48,239 --> 01:42:51,920 of a national trend. However, when they 2265 01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:55,199 bounce back, we want to be able to be 2266 01:42:55,199 --> 01:42:56,639 prepared to receive them with the 2267 01:42:56,639 --> 01:43:00,709 business climate they deserve. 2268 01:43:00,719 --> 01:43:02,960 So I want to talk about some stone crest 2269 01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:04,800 development projects that are very 2270 01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:06,159 important. One of the things I was 2271 01:43:06,159 --> 01:43:08,000 charged with 2272 01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,040 in the 2273 01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:15,600 comprehensive plan was the town center 2274 01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:17,760 and we are working with the Allen 2275 01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:19,600 family, 2276 01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:23,360 a um confidential broker and a 2277 01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:25,760 confidential 2278 01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:28,480 development group. 2279 01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:30,320 We put together the Stone Crest Town 2280 01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,960 Center master plan which will include 2281 01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:34,560 everything from government buildings, 2282 01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,199 private buildings, mixeduse retail, 2283 01:43:37,199 --> 01:43:39,360 entertainment, 2284 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:41,760 educational institutions, and possibly 2285 01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,320 some healthc care institutions as well. 2286 01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:45,760 Those are the thing that we've discussed 2287 01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:48,639 about having into the strategic plan of 2288 01:43:48,639 --> 01:43:51,199 the master plan for the town center. 2289 01:43:51,199 --> 01:43:53,520 We're are meeting weekly to try to work 2290 01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:56,639 this out and as soon as we get something 2291 01:43:56,639 --> 01:43:58,880 in place. We have to go through a 2292 01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:00,320 process with the development authority 2293 01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,239 and then we'll come back to council with 2294 01:44:02,239 --> 01:44:05,360 the final say. So just know that we are 2295 01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,440 now moving forward. We're putting that 2296 01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:09,760 master plan together with a contingent 2297 01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:14,149 of people that's can make it happen. 2298 01:44:14,159 --> 01:44:15,920 New Black Wall Street has shut down. 2299 01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,800 This is also Allen property. All the 2300 01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,199 contents inside have been auctioned off. 2301 01:44:21,199 --> 01:44:22,960 So now we're working with the family and 2302 01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,920 their broker to figure out the next use 2303 01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,080 for the building. 2304 01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,639 Had one that came through that did not 2305 01:44:30,639 --> 01:44:34,480 meet the zoning requirements 2306 01:44:34,480 --> 01:44:37,199 and um it was really not a good fit. I'm 2307 01:44:37,199 --> 01:44:38,400 not going to say what it was, but just 2308 01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,199 not a good fit for our community. So we 2309 01:44:41,199 --> 01:44:43,440 want to make sure that as we try to fill 2310 01:44:43,440 --> 01:44:45,920 this space working with the family that 2311 01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,239 we are bringing something here that's 2312 01:44:48,239 --> 01:44:50,080 going to bring people to the city that's 2313 01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:52,000 going to create jobs that's going to be 2314 01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:56,239 sustainable and fits within the desires 2315 01:44:56,239 --> 01:44:59,920 of the leadership in the city and also 2316 01:44:59,920 --> 01:45:02,080 the community. So we will keep you 2317 01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:04,480 posted on the effort to do that. We've 2318 01:45:04,480 --> 01:45:06,080 had several different proposals that's 2319 01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,239 been presented. We take a look at them 2320 01:45:08,239 --> 01:45:10,159 to make sure that they meet the zoning, 2321 01:45:10,159 --> 01:45:12,719 but also to make sure that 2322 01:45:12,719 --> 01:45:14,320 that they meet the requirements of the 2323 01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:15,360 city. So, you'll be getting more 2324 01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:17,520 information about that as we begin to 2325 01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,199 narrow down what we think work best in 2326 01:45:19,199 --> 01:45:20,800 that building, but something will be 2327 01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:25,119 coming um in the near future. 2328 01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:27,360 Um, also working with the Allen family 2329 01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,080 properties, they have about 487 acres. 2330 01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,400 I'm pretty sure you're familiar with it. 2331 01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:34,800 Um, I've been here not even a year yet. 2332 01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:35,840 And one of the most important things I 2333 01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,159 had to do is try to figure out what is 2334 01:45:38,159 --> 01:45:40,320 going on with the property. Um, there 2335 01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:41,440 was an arrangement with the development 2336 01:45:41,440 --> 01:45:43,840 authority, but they have title of the 2337 01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:45,360 property and the family still has the 2338 01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:48,080 property. But we had to make sure we get 2339 01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,639 everybody on the same page. Of course, 2340 01:45:50,639 --> 01:45:54,080 um, Mr. Allen, when he was still living, 2341 01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:56,000 um, he was still working with this 2342 01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:59,520 situation, but since he's passed, he was 2343 01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,920 transferred over to his daughter. So, we 2344 01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:03,679 had to have a meeting with her, her 2345 01:46:03,679 --> 01:46:07,840 broker, the attorney, and also um some 2346 01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:10,239 potential developers so that we can make 2347 01:46:10,239 --> 01:46:12,560 sure we understand what has to happen 2348 01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,000 before anything can be done on this 2349 01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:15,840 property. So, now that we have an 2350 01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:17,840 agreement among all parties, we're now 2351 01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:20,560 working together to try to bring 2352 01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:22,639 development to all those properties that 2353 01:46:22,639 --> 01:46:25,760 Allen family owns um in the area closest 2354 01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:28,639 to the interstate. 2355 01:46:28,639 --> 01:46:30,719 Um, just want to mention real quick, we 2356 01:46:30,719 --> 01:46:32,719 did have a prospect 2357 01:46:32,719 --> 01:46:35,760 that was uh, brought to us by a 2358 01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:38,080 site selector 2359 01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,480 out of Massachusetts and they want to 2360 01:46:40,480 --> 01:46:42,960 purchase the Sam's building. We did get 2361 01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,360 an appraisal on the building um, for 2362 01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:47,840 them. They were looking to bring a large 2363 01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,880 retail operation here and it would have 2364 01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:54,719 brought 125 jobs. We were the last two 2365 01:46:54,719 --> 01:46:59,360 in contention for the um project, but 2366 01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:02,239 then we find out we have a long list of 2367 01:47:02,239 --> 01:47:05,679 prohibited prohibited uses that was 2368 01:47:05,679 --> 01:47:07,920 given to us when we bought the Sam's 2369 01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:11,199 building that limits a lot of 2370 01:47:11,199 --> 01:47:13,040 opportunities for us to bring certain 2371 01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:15,520 commercial operations here. So, we lost 2372 01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:17,440 that project, 2373 01:47:17,440 --> 01:47:20,000 but um we will be having a discussion 2374 01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,000 hopefully with the urban development 2375 01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,080 authority to determine the path forward. 2376 01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,800 Do we continue to try to recruit a 2377 01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,440 commercial user 2378 01:47:29,440 --> 01:47:31,920 um or do we take a look at some 2379 01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,239 alternative uses? 2380 01:47:34,239 --> 01:47:36,080 So, what I've done is given you a 2381 01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,639 snapshot of what we're working on, a lot 2382 01:47:38,639 --> 01:47:41,520 of big projects. Um we are doing a lot 2383 01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,600 of touch points with businesses in the 2384 01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:45,520 community. 2385 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,199 maintaining, building more relationships 2386 01:47:47,199 --> 01:47:49,199 and doing what we have to do to keep 2387 01:47:49,199 --> 01:47:51,679 Stone Crest in the forefront of the 2388 01:47:51,679 --> 01:47:53,600 economic development efforts. Want 2389 01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:55,920 people to keep in mind we are still a 2390 01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:57,920 young city of all the cities in Dicap 2391 01:47:57,920 --> 01:47:59,600 County 2392 01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:01,840 and we still have a long way to go, but 2393 01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,239 I think um we have what it takes, the 2394 01:48:04,239 --> 01:48:07,280 assets, the ability, and the drive to 2395 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:08,880 make it happen. And we're going to 2396 01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,199 continue to work hard to lead the effort 2397 01:48:11,199 --> 01:48:13,440 to um bring the things here to Stone 2398 01:48:13,440 --> 01:48:15,440 Crest. So we can continue to be stone 2399 01:48:15,440 --> 01:48:18,239 Chris proud. So if you have any 2400 01:48:18,239 --> 01:48:23,189 questions, be more than happy to answer. 2401 01:48:23,199 --> 01:48:24,960 » Council, do you have any questions for 2402 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,119 Director Randall? 2403 01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:28,310 >> Mayor Pro. 2404 01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:28,320 » Mayor Pro. 2405 01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,229 >> Councilwoman Smith. 2406 01:48:30,229 --> 01:48:30,239 » Councilwoman Smith. 2407 01:48:30,239 --> 01:48:32,310 >> Thank you, Director Randall, for that. 2408 01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:32,320 » Thank you, Director Randall, for that. 2409 01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:35,199 We appreciate it. Um do you have any 2410 01:48:35,199 --> 01:48:38,960 idea how many businesses 2411 01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:44,400 um we have attracted this year and how 2412 01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:48,080 many we have lost this year? 2413 01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:51,109 >> Well, we only we only attracted one that 2414 01:48:51,109 --> 01:48:51,119 » Well, we only we only attracted one that 2415 01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:53,840 actually had a serious interest. You 2416 01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:55,360 look at different levels. You have tire 2417 01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:57,760 kickers who may reach out, ask some 2418 01:48:57,760 --> 01:48:59,679 questions, but then we don't hear from 2419 01:48:59,679 --> 01:49:01,920 them again. You have some that would go 2420 01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,560 as far as looking at property and we 2421 01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:06,480 won't hear from them again. The only one 2422 01:49:06,480 --> 01:49:08,800 that that went all the way through the 2423 01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:12,560 process was the confidential prospect 2424 01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:14,000 that was interested in the Sam's 2425 01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:16,719 building. However, 2426 01:49:16,719 --> 01:49:18,719 we do have 2427 01:49:18,719 --> 01:49:21,040 as I mentioned before 2428 01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:23,840 in the pipeline some smaller retail 2429 01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,199 restaurant businesses. I mentioned 2430 01:49:25,199 --> 01:49:26,719 Chipotle 2431 01:49:26,719 --> 01:49:28,239 has already committed to come to going 2432 01:49:28,239 --> 01:49:30,639 through the process. Dunkin Donuts is 2433 01:49:30,639 --> 01:49:32,880 committed to the setup as well. They're 2434 01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:34,159 working out the lease agreement, but 2435 01:49:34,159 --> 01:49:35,119 then they'll be going through the 2436 01:49:35,119 --> 01:49:38,880 process. And Marshalls um well, that's 2437 01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:41,840 more of retention expansion, but they're 2438 01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:43,760 going through the process as well. The 2439 01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,199 two that I mentioned earlier that came 2440 01:49:45,199 --> 01:49:48,159 in from Mr. Ford at the Stone um Crest 2441 01:49:48,159 --> 01:49:51,280 Chamber, those um he connected us with 2442 01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,199 those businesses and now we're in 2443 01:49:53,199 --> 01:49:54,560 discussions with them about trying to 2444 01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:57,760 find property. So, it's still early. Um, 2445 01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:00,000 council member retention, I mean, 2446 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,960 recruiting is only 5%. Because it's 2447 01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:06,000 really a waiting game. They have so many 2448 01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,239 tools and things that they can use to 2449 01:50:08,239 --> 01:50:10,639 evaluate us. And the name of the game 2450 01:50:10,639 --> 01:50:13,679 when they reach out to us is to stay on 2451 01:50:13,679 --> 01:50:15,840 the list because once you get kicked off 2452 01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,840 the list for whatever reason, you may 2453 01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:20,080 not have a building, 2454 01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:22,480 you may not u have something, it may be 2455 01:50:22,480 --> 01:50:24,880 a permitting issue, it could be a zoning 2456 01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:27,280 issue. There a lot of things that we can 2457 01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:30,480 control, some we can't. But we're 2458 01:50:30,480 --> 01:50:32,560 gaining traction through our 2459 01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:36,000 partnerships with Georgia Power and the 2460 01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:37,040 Georgia Department of Economic 2461 01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,760 Development and through Decide the CAP. 2462 01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:41,360 They are the leads that will be bringing 2463 01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:44,560 us opportunities for recruiting and we 2464 01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:46,400 just have to be ready to receive them 2465 01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:47,920 and do the best we can to bring them 2466 01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:50,320 here with what we have. 2467 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:53,669 >> Okay. You mentioned the 2468 01:50:53,669 --> 01:50:53,679 » Okay. You mentioned the 2469 01:50:53,679 --> 01:50:55,840 Stone Crest Film and Entertainment 2470 01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:57,920 Commission and you said that Dicap 2471 01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:01,760 County handles pretty much most of that. 2472 01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:04,480 What is it that our committee is 2473 01:51:04,480 --> 01:51:07,199 responsible for? 2474 01:51:07,199 --> 01:51:09,520 What's their purpose? 2475 01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:11,440 What we're pushing them to do now is to 2476 01:51:11,440 --> 01:51:13,280 focus more on bringing entertainment 2477 01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:15,280 events to Stone Crest that will bring 2478 01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,760 people here and also provide 2479 01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:20,239 opportunities for aspiring filmmakers 2480 01:51:20,239 --> 01:51:23,119 and entertainment mainly our youth to be 2481 01:51:23,119 --> 01:51:24,960 exposed to people already in the 2482 01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:26,400 industry. So if they want to go down 2483 01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:28,960 that path through workshops, 2484 01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:30,480 throughmies, through different things 2485 01:51:30,480 --> 01:51:32,800 like that that they're hosting to make 2486 01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,840 sure that people understand the industry 2487 01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:38,000 and have opportunities to talk to those 2488 01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:39,679 who are in the industry to learn what's 2489 01:51:39,679 --> 01:51:41,199 going on so they can make a decision if 2490 01:51:41,199 --> 01:51:43,599 they want to do it or not. Um also 2491 01:51:43,599 --> 01:51:46,880 supporting other events. Um they will be 2492 01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:50,000 supporting the mayor's um 2493 01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,639 um um what you call it um screen on the 2494 01:51:52,639 --> 01:51:55,599 green event. And then are trying to 2495 01:51:55,599 --> 01:51:58,560 bring some other events here, mainly 2496 01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:01,440 outdoor events because of the limit of 2497 01:52:01,440 --> 01:52:03,199 having a building to have something 2498 01:52:03,199 --> 01:52:05,520 inside. So, they're focusing more on the 2499 01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:07,840 entertainment piece, but when it comes 2500 01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,119 to film, whenever a producer or 2501 01:52:11,119 --> 01:52:14,080 filmmaker comes to Stone Crest, they're 2502 01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:16,880 charged to going out on site to make 2503 01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:18,400 sure that they serve as a welcome 2504 01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:20,320 committee. No one else is doing that 2505 01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:21,520 because they don't have a commission 2506 01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,679 like us. So, we will be making sure that 2507 01:52:23,679 --> 01:52:25,679 when they come here that that their time 2508 01:52:25,679 --> 01:52:28,639 here is pleasant and productive. Um, and 2509 01:52:28,639 --> 01:52:30,000 we will meet any needs that they have 2510 01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:31,599 while they're shooting. So, that is 2511 01:52:31,599 --> 01:52:33,760 their role to make sure that the city of 2512 01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:36,960 Stone Crest is one of the most desirable 2513 01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,599 and proactive places to do filming and 2514 01:52:39,599 --> 01:52:40,480 entertainment. 2515 01:52:40,480 --> 01:52:44,470 >> Okay. So, we're focusing on the um not 2516 01:52:44,470 --> 01:52:44,480 » Okay. So, we're focusing on the um not 2517 01:52:44,480 --> 01:52:46,080 on the film part, but more on the 2518 01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:48,639 entertainment piece of it. Our committee 2519 01:52:48,639 --> 01:52:50,880 is focusing more on the entertainment 2520 01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:51,520 piece. 2521 01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:55,030 >> Yes. And um as it relates to the film 2522 01:52:55,030 --> 01:52:55,040 » Yes. And um as it relates to the film 2523 01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:57,920 piece, if I'm hearing properly, we're 2524 01:52:57,920 --> 01:52:59,760 just the welcome committee. 2525 01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:03,669 >> Yes. Um Dicab County has a portal that 2526 01:53:03,669 --> 01:53:03,679 » Yes. Um Dicab County has a portal that 2527 01:53:03,679 --> 01:53:06,800 all 13 cities are in. So when people 2528 01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:10,960 contact the Georgia State Film 2529 01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:14,080 um department, they refer them to DICE 2530 01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:15,360 County, which is our economic 2531 01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,360 development lead organization in Dicap 2532 01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:20,239 County. So, it makes sense that they're 2533 01:53:20,239 --> 01:53:23,280 the ones that process all the permits 2534 01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:25,040 and when someone wants to come to Stone 2535 01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:28,400 Crest, then um the money from processing 2536 01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,960 permits come to us and we have to make 2537 01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,199 sure we approve the application before 2538 01:53:33,199 --> 01:53:35,520 they can come in and film. So they do 2539 01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:38,159 most of the background work on on behalf 2540 01:53:38,159 --> 01:53:39,760 of all the cities to [snorts] make sure 2541 01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:42,880 that everything is covered when it comes 2542 01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:47,040 to film making and production here in in 2543 01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:48,719 Dicap County and we're on the list with 2544 01:53:48,719 --> 01:53:50,560 the other cities. So they serve us and 2545 01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,800 everybody else. 2546 01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:56,550 >> Thank you, Mayor Pro Tim. I yield. 2547 01:53:56,550 --> 01:53:56,560 » Thank you, Mayor Pro Tim. I yield. 2548 01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,109 >> Thank you, Councilwoman Smith. 2549 01:53:59,109 --> 01:53:59,119 » Thank you, Councilwoman Smith. 2550 01:53:59,119 --> 01:54:01,679 Council, any other question? 2551 01:54:01,679 --> 01:54:06,470 >> Pro Tim. Councilman Turner, 2552 01:54:06,480 --> 01:54:09,360 » you mentioned the Allen property. 2553 01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:09,990 >> Yes, sir. 2554 01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:10,000 » Yes, sir. 2555 01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:14,070 >> And within that map, I see you also have 2556 01:54:14,070 --> 01:54:14,080 » And within that map, I see you also have 2557 01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:16,719 the Allen property on Woodro and Evans 2558 01:54:16,719 --> 01:54:21,199 Mill. Uh is that a part of 2559 01:54:21,199 --> 01:54:23,910 >> it's not part of the abatement that um 2560 01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:23,920 » it's not part of the abatement that um 2561 01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:25,920 the most of the property is along with 2562 01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:28,719 um Black Wall Street, but we are working 2563 01:54:28,719 --> 01:54:32,000 with the um family and potential 2564 01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:34,560 prospects who are looking at that 2565 01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:36,080 particular compound. There's some 2566 01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,560 challenges with it because of the zoning 2567 01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:40,560 going back to R100 because it has not 2568 01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:43,920 been used in six months or more. So, um, 2569 01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:47,280 as people are expressing interest in it, 2570 01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:50,480 um, we're trying to figure out a way. 2571 01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:51,599 Well, they would like to use the 2572 01:54:51,599 --> 01:54:52,960 buildings as they are, but because of 2573 01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:56,800 the zoning, they can't. So, director Q 2574 01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:58,560 and I are trying to figure out the 2575 01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:02,239 creative way that we can preserve that 2576 01:55:02,239 --> 01:55:04,880 compound where people can use it. Um, 2577 01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:09,199 we'll be talking more about that with um 2578 01:55:09,199 --> 01:55:11,199 with the city council, of course, about 2579 01:55:11,199 --> 01:55:13,599 some ideas to try to see what we can do 2580 01:55:13,599 --> 01:55:15,599 to to make it usable. Those are those 2581 01:55:15,599 --> 01:55:17,840 are historic buildings. They're good 2582 01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:20,159 buildings for filming. Um, they do need 2583 01:55:20,159 --> 01:55:22,800 some cleaning up, but they could still 2584 01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:24,880 be functional and we would hate to have 2585 01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,360 to destroy those buildings for single 2586 01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,239 family housing if we don't have to. 2587 01:55:30,239 --> 01:55:33,510 >> Okay. Um maybe this for the attorney and 2588 01:55:33,510 --> 01:55:33,520 » Okay. Um maybe this for the attorney and 2589 01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:35,199 that is that you mentioned the project 2590 01:55:35,199 --> 01:55:41,119 with the formerly Sam's Club building 2591 01:55:41,119 --> 01:55:44,880 and some roadblocks that are there and I 2592 01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:46,639 know that they were there when the city 2593 01:55:46,639 --> 01:55:49,199 purchased that property and I don't know 2594 01:55:49,199 --> 01:55:50,880 if we've ever challenged whether or not 2595 01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:53,760 those restrictions 2596 01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:58,080 are enforcable or not. I know that Sam 2597 01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:01,040 said that there's a list of things that 2598 01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:02,960 we could and could not use the building 2599 01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:06,000 for or could and could not dispose of it 2600 01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:09,440 for. Um, but 2601 01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:12,639 when we purchased it, 2602 01:56:12,639 --> 01:56:14,159 uh, I think that's kind of like one of 2603 01:56:14,159 --> 01:56:17,360 those uh, like lifetime easements or 2604 01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:20,239 something restriction. Is there any way 2605 01:56:20,239 --> 01:56:22,880 to work beyond that? 2606 01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:24,560 Obviously, we would have to take a look 2607 01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:27,760 at the agreement to determine um which 2608 01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:30,080 covenants apply and I'm happy to to meet 2609 01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:30,639 with you. 2610 01:56:30,639 --> 01:56:32,390 >> There's a there's a hand in the sky 2611 01:56:32,390 --> 01:56:32,400 » There's a there's a hand in the sky 2612 01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:35,280 there from one who may have a little 2613 01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:38,560 more experience with that. 2614 01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:40,560 Is that true? 2615 01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:42,629 >> Attorney, 2616 01:56:42,629 --> 01:56:42,639 » Attorney, 2617 01:56:42,639 --> 01:56:44,390 >> good evening. 2618 01:56:44,390 --> 01:56:44,400 » good evening. 2619 01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:47,830 >> Good evening. Um just and thank you, 2620 01:56:47,830 --> 01:56:47,840 » Good evening. Um just and thank you, 2621 01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:51,199 Orlando. You're right. Um thank you, Mr. 2622 01:56:51,199 --> 01:56:53,760 Mayor Pro Timmeritus and um Attorney 2623 01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:57,679 Pearson. Um and he's right um there is a 2624 01:56:57,679 --> 01:57:00,480 list of restrictions that we would have 2625 01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:02,159 to review. Um we've looked at them 2626 01:57:02,159 --> 01:57:06,800 previously and um they are part of the 2627 01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:09,760 the documentation that was used to 2628 01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:11,119 secure the land. And just for 2629 01:57:11,119 --> 01:57:13,119 clarification also this the Sam's Club 2630 01:57:13,119 --> 01:57:15,760 building is under the URRA. So it's it's 2631 01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:19,119 not a city-owned property. So this um 2632 01:57:19,119 --> 01:57:21,760 this discussion would be um a little bit 2633 01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:24,239 more relevant um within the urban 2634 01:57:24,239 --> 01:57:27,280 redevelopment ay's meeting, but there 2635 01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,199 are list of restrictions that are that 2636 01:57:29,199 --> 01:57:33,360 were bound to um as far as who can own 2637 01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:36,880 the property in the future. 2638 01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:39,669 >> Yeah, that was a question. Are we firmly 2639 01:57:39,669 --> 01:57:39,679 » Yeah, that was a question. Are we firmly 2640 01:57:39,679 --> 01:57:45,040 bound or is there a way to wealle out? 2641 01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:47,520 Well, we can have discussion and see, 2642 01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:49,599 take a look at the documents. I will say 2643 01:57:49,599 --> 01:57:51,119 something else that that has happened. 2644 01:57:51,119 --> 01:57:52,560 The building has been there for quite 2645 01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:55,840 some time. It's been vacant. Um, as a 2646 01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:57,840 result, we've had some people who have 2647 01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,000 come and done damage to the building. 2648 01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:01,760 Um, the air conditioning unit is 2649 01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:03,599 completely destroyed. So, it's going to 2650 01:58:03,599 --> 01:58:05,119 cost about a million dollars to replace 2651 01:58:05,119 --> 01:58:07,679 that. And there there's some things on 2652 01:58:07,679 --> 01:58:08,960 the inside of the building where people 2653 01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:12,080 have broken in and done some things. So 2654 01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:14,480 um we have to really take a look at the 2655 01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:16,080 building to make a determination which 2656 01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:17,840 direction do we go. Do we try to 2657 01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:19,920 continue to go down the path of 2658 01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:23,360 commercial with the both um prohibited 2659 01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:25,840 uses and the condition of the building 2660 01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:28,800 or do we take a look at some alternative 2661 01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:31,840 uses? Well, I know it requires another 2662 01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:35,760 discussion, but um if the building is 2663 01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:37,760 demolished, would those restrictions 2664 01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:41,280 still apply to the land if we were to uh 2665 01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:43,199 go in that direction? Because with it 2666 01:58:43,199 --> 01:58:46,400 being the damage to the point that it 2667 01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:49,520 might cost more to repair it than it 2668 01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:52,800 would be to just raise it and start 2669 01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,520 over. Uh so I think those questions have 2670 01:58:55,520 --> 01:59:00,000 to be asked in terms of the uh 2671 01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:04,159 and the details of the agreement. Does 2672 01:59:04,159 --> 01:59:07,360 that apply strictly to the building? Uh 2673 01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:09,599 does it also apply to the land and any 2674 01:59:09,599 --> 01:59:13,199 future land use of that site? So, that's 2675 01:59:13,199 --> 01:59:15,040 something for another discussion. Just 2676 01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:16,719 wanted to put that out there that that's 2677 01:59:16,719 --> 01:59:17,520 something we're going to have to deal 2678 01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,280 with because that is a very valuable 2679 01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:22,320 site and uh I'd hate for those 2680 01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:26,159 restrictions to hold us up forever. 2681 01:59:26,159 --> 01:59:28,870 >> Okay. 2682 01:59:28,870 --> 01:59:28,880 » Okay. 2683 01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:31,440 agurism. Speak to that again as to what 2684 01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:33,599 we are looking at. 2685 01:59:33,599 --> 01:59:35,030 >> Well, you know, we have some natural 2686 01:59:35,030 --> 01:59:35,040 » Well, you know, we have some natural 2687 01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:36,719 beauty here. I mean, we have Arabia 2688 01:59:36,719 --> 01:59:38,480 Mountain, we have walking trails, all 2689 01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:41,520 those different things. Um, we have the 2690 01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,159 South River and we want to make sure 2691 01:59:44,159 --> 01:59:47,599 that um we promote uh natural beauty 2692 01:59:47,599 --> 01:59:49,119 here in Stone Crest. Although we're a 2693 01:59:49,119 --> 01:59:51,040 city, we are a city with a lot of 2694 01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:52,400 natural beauty and we need to promote 2695 01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:55,280 that to get people to come here. Um, as 2696 01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,280 we move forward with our town center and 2697 01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,520 other things, we still want to maintain 2698 01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:02,400 that agurism. So, we'll be focusing a 2699 02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:05,280 lot in working with discover the cab to 2700 02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:07,440 make sure that we are advertising Stone 2701 02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:11,199 Crest as a top agurism place. You have 2702 02:00:11,199 --> 02:00:13,360 places where you can, you know, I think 2703 02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:15,119 we talked about the the sunflower 2704 02:00:15,119 --> 02:00:17,840 contest. You have places where you can 2705 02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:20,400 pick berries. You have a lot of natural 2706 02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:22,000 beauty which is something that a lot of 2707 02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:23,360 people appreciate. So 2708 02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:25,270 >> I was trying to get a clear definition 2709 02:00:25,270 --> 02:00:25,280 » I was trying to get a clear definition 2710 02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:28,080 of agurism and I don't know somehow I 2711 02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:31,199 had combined uh agriculture and tourism 2712 02:00:31,199 --> 02:00:34,480 to get to agurism and I see the tourism 2713 02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:38,159 and the um nature trails but I don't see 2714 02:00:38,159 --> 02:00:41,599 any agriculture hardly 2715 02:00:41,599 --> 02:00:45,280 uh that uh we can really promote. Did I 2716 02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:46,080 miss something? 2717 02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:48,390 >> No. Well, well, agriculture can also be 2718 02:00:48,390 --> 02:00:48,400 » No. Well, well, agriculture can also be 2719 02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:51,520 natural things that um that just grow. 2720 02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:53,199 Um you're talking about gardens, you 2721 02:00:53,199 --> 02:00:55,360 think about fields where people are 2722 02:00:55,360 --> 02:00:57,360 growing things, but as you walk the 2723 02:00:57,360 --> 02:00:59,199 trails, you will find different types of 2724 02:00:59,199 --> 02:01:00,719 berries and things that you can just 2725 02:01:00,719 --> 02:01:01,280 pick. 2726 02:01:01,280 --> 02:01:02,790 >> Okay. Okay. I just wanted to understand 2727 02:01:02,790 --> 02:01:02,800 » Okay. Okay. I just wanted to understand 2728 02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:05,280 what we were defining as agurism. 2729 02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:05,589 >> Yes. 2730 02:01:05,589 --> 02:01:05,599 » Yes. 2731 02:01:05,599 --> 02:01:07,030 >> You know, I was looking to walk through 2732 02:01:07,030 --> 02:01:07,040 » You know, I was looking to walk through 2733 02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:09,760 a potato field and 2734 02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:11,750 >> and you got feral hogs, too. 2735 02:01:11,750 --> 02:01:11,760 » and you got feral hogs, too. 2736 02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:16,149 >> Oh, okay. Now that's agubis. 2737 02:01:16,149 --> 02:01:16,159 » Oh, okay. Now that's agubis. 2738 02:01:16,159 --> 02:01:17,589 >> But yeah, we're going to really focus on 2739 02:01:17,589 --> 02:01:17,599 » But yeah, we're going to really focus on 2740 02:01:17,599 --> 02:01:20,480 that to make sure that um 2741 02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:22,000 because we are working hard to maintain 2742 02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:24,159 this natural asset that we have and it's 2743 02:01:24,159 --> 02:01:27,040 important that um we promote it to every 2744 02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:28,800 means necessary. 2745 02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:32,550 >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. That was very 2746 02:01:32,550 --> 02:01:32,560 » Okay. Okay. Thank you. That was very 2747 02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:36,629 thorough. 2748 02:01:36,639 --> 02:01:38,159 Council, any other questions for 2749 02:01:38,159 --> 02:01:42,870 Director Randall? 2750 02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:44,480 Director Rando, I want to say thank you 2751 02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:46,480 for this presentation. It was very 2752 02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:48,800 detailed. Um, but I have a couple of 2753 02:01:48,800 --> 02:01:52,560 questions. As far as the new businesses, 2754 02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:55,679 um, most of these are in district one. 2755 02:01:55,679 --> 02:01:59,589 Um, 2756 02:01:59,599 --> 02:02:02,719 I I wasn't aware of some of these new 2757 02:02:02,719 --> 02:02:05,920 businesses um, outside of getting a call 2758 02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:08,480 from a constituent or just riding past 2759 02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:11,360 the new business myself. So, how is 2760 02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:16,000 council notified when a new business 2761 02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:18,320 is here in Stone Crest? And how do we 2762 02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:21,040 welcome them to our city to show that we 2763 02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:24,080 appreciate them choosing Stone Crest and 2764 02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:27,280 maybe do a do a ribbon cutting and say 2765 02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:30,080 thank you and help promote them so they 2766 02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:31,440 can stay. 2767 02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:32,950 >> As a matter of fact, 2768 02:02:32,950 --> 02:02:32,960 » As a matter of fact, 2769 02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:35,030 >> good question. Well, I I submitted a 2770 02:02:35,030 --> 02:02:35,040 » good question. Well, I I submitted a 2771 02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:37,360 report to the city manager and mentioned 2772 02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:40,320 the new businesses that are here. Um, I 2773 02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:42,400 think what we need to do, well, what we 2774 02:02:42,400 --> 02:02:44,159 also do, I forgot to mention this, is we 2775 02:02:44,159 --> 02:02:45,440 working with the communication 2776 02:02:45,440 --> 02:02:47,760 department and they are currently now 2777 02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:50,719 going out doing videos of businesses 2778 02:02:50,719 --> 02:02:54,560 around the community. Um, think what 2779 02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:57,280 what I need to do is to make sure that, 2780 02:02:57,280 --> 02:02:59,760 um, in addition to sending information 2781 02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:02,159 to the city manager, 2782 02:03:02,159 --> 02:03:03,760 um, I can make sure we can send 2783 02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:06,159 something um, when a business shows up. 2784 02:03:06,159 --> 02:03:08,320 A lot of times they're coming in and we 2785 02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:09,920 didn't know they were coming. So they're 2786 02:03:09,920 --> 02:03:13,119 working directly with brokers 2787 02:03:13,119 --> 02:03:16,960 um on particular space like uh Sweet 2788 02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:19,199 Pepper Kitchen. They just showed up. We 2789 02:03:19,199 --> 02:03:20,639 just happened to go over and we find out 2790 02:03:20,639 --> 02:03:23,360 that they were there. Um so that that 2791 02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:25,760 will happen a lot that they will not 2792 02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:27,280 have to come to the city. They know what 2793 02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:29,119 they need looking for the space and they 2794 02:03:29,119 --> 02:03:31,280 work with the broker and then once we 2795 02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:32,960 find out we we cap capture the 2796 02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:35,040 information. So, what we'll try to do is 2797 02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:37,760 make sure that we um we find out that 2798 02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:40,000 we'll get information out and we'll work 2799 02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:42,480 with the communications department to 2800 02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:43,760 try to set up some type of ribbon 2801 02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:45,280 cutting in order for city council to be 2802 02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:46,159 there. 2803 02:03:46,159 --> 02:03:48,550 >> Got it. And that broker, do we have a 2804 02:03:48,550 --> 02:03:48,560 » Got it. And that broker, do we have a 2805 02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:51,360 partnership with these brokers? 2806 02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:53,270 >> Actually, we don't. Brokers love 2807 02:03:53,270 --> 02:03:53,280 » Actually, we don't. Brokers love 2808 02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:56,239 economic development departments because 2809 02:03:56,239 --> 02:03:58,639 um they're representing their clients 2810 02:03:58,639 --> 02:04:00,560 and their role is to try to lease or 2811 02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:03,440 sell their property. Um, we do have a 2812 02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:05,199 website where that some of them have 2813 02:04:05,199 --> 02:04:08,239 access to it where they can just post 2814 02:04:08,239 --> 02:04:10,239 whatever properties that they have, 2815 02:04:10,239 --> 02:04:12,560 commercial properties onto that to that 2816 02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:15,119 platform. And it's we're starting to get 2817 02:04:15,119 --> 02:04:18,080 more and more every day because um 2818 02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:21,760 they're more people are inquiring. Um, 2819 02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:25,040 we get most of our information from 2820 02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:28,719 decide the cab because they have co-star 2821 02:04:28,719 --> 02:04:30,639 and we had it but it's an expensive 2822 02:04:30,639 --> 02:04:33,760 tool. So to save money, we decide to 2823 02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:35,280 work with them and make requests to them 2824 02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:39,840 to get information on sites. So um 2825 02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:42,080 you know, businesses will locate the 2826 02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:44,960 Stone Crest without us knowing about it, 2827 02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:46,800 but then those that that need our help 2828 02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:48,239 reach out and we want to make sure as we 2829 02:04:48,239 --> 02:04:50,000 do that, we let you know so you can be 2830 02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:51,280 part of the celebration when they come 2831 02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:52,880 in. 2832 02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:56,310 >> Do you know what um what's holding New 2833 02:04:56,310 --> 02:04:56,320 » Do you know what um what's holding New 2834 02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:59,360 York pizza from opening? There's they're 2835 02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:01,360 dealing with per permit issues with the 2836 02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:08,629 um the Cap County Fire U Marshall. 2837 02:05:08,639 --> 02:05:10,239 » How are we notified when business are 2838 02:05:10,239 --> 02:05:12,080 closing? 2839 02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:15,589 >> Well, um we are constantly going through 2840 02:05:15,589 --> 02:05:15,599 » Well, um we are constantly going through 2841 02:05:15,599 --> 02:05:18,000 our database. Um we've been going 2842 02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:19,440 through the database the past couple 2843 02:05:19,440 --> 02:05:23,119 weeks and we are searching businesses 2844 02:05:23,119 --> 02:05:24,560 and we're finding a lot of them are 2845 02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:27,440 closed permanently. looking at Google, 2846 02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:30,159 um word of mouth, of course, um you get 2847 02:05:30,159 --> 02:05:32,159 information on social media and in some 2848 02:05:32,159 --> 02:05:35,119 instances when you pass by. So, if a 2849 02:05:35,119 --> 02:05:37,679 business is closing, um especially if 2850 02:05:37,679 --> 02:05:40,239 it's a a well-known business, popular 2851 02:05:40,239 --> 02:05:41,599 business, people going to know about it 2852 02:05:41,599 --> 02:05:43,440 because when they go, it's not there. 2853 02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:45,119 But then there's some smaller ones that 2854 02:05:45,119 --> 02:05:46,400 never really get off the ground. They 2855 02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:48,560 open and they close. We may never know 2856 02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:51,360 who they are, but um it's just a matter 2857 02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:53,679 of going through a database and we get 2858 02:05:53,679 --> 02:05:54,800 it information from Department of 2859 02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:58,719 Revenue every year preloaded and then we 2860 02:05:58,719 --> 02:06:00,880 go through the database to check 2861 02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:02,560 businesses against Google and their 2862 02:06:02,560 --> 02:06:04,960 websites. um if they don't have that 2863 02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:07,280 then we pass by and see what's going on 2864 02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:10,400 and then we make those um reports into 2865 02:06:10,400 --> 02:06:13,040 the system and I can provide you a 2866 02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:14,880 report of businesses that are registered 2867 02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:16,880 with the city to do business have a 2868 02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:19,280 business license but since 2869 02:06:19,280 --> 02:06:22,159 sometime this year they shut down 2870 02:06:22,159 --> 02:06:24,960 and we don't know what happened and most 2871 02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:28,960 businesses um will not contact us unless 2872 02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:30,960 they 2873 02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:32,400 feel that we can help them but a lot of 2874 02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:34,159 things out of our role as far as helping 2875 02:06:34,159 --> 02:06:38,229 sale. 2876 02:06:38,239 --> 02:06:42,320 » So, with the broker, I think it might be 2877 02:06:42,320 --> 02:06:44,159 helpful if we reach out to some of our 2878 02:06:44,159 --> 02:06:46,480 local brokers just to see how they can 2879 02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:49,440 assist get a list of all of our vacant 2880 02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:52,320 buildings. And of course, they work on 2881 02:06:52,320 --> 02:06:53,920 commission, so they'll be more than 2882 02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:56,000 happy to help you, but help us to get 2883 02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:59,040 some of those buildings filled. Do you 2884 02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:02,000 have a list of all of the buildings that 2885 02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:03,679 are vacant currently? 2886 02:07:03,679 --> 02:07:07,589 >> We don't have a list, but um any time a 2887 02:07:07,589 --> 02:07:07,599 » We don't have a list, but um any time a 2888 02:07:07,599 --> 02:07:09,920 prospect or anyone's looking for a 2889 02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:13,440 building. We do use CoStar with decide 2890 02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:16,079 the cab and they do a search and they 2891 02:07:16,079 --> 02:07:17,360 can tell us what buildings are 2892 02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:19,599 available. There are other tools online 2893 02:07:19,599 --> 02:07:22,400 that we can use like loop.net. 2894 02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:24,239 And then I said some brokers just 2895 02:07:24,239 --> 02:07:26,480 automatically put stuff in the system. 2896 02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:28,239 they ask for access to put it into our 2897 02:07:28,239 --> 02:07:30,719 database and we allow them to do that 2898 02:07:30,719 --> 02:07:32,960 and we go to that that list to take and 2899 02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:35,040 see what's available. It's kind of hard 2900 02:07:35,040 --> 02:07:38,000 to keep up with a list like that because 2901 02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:40,239 you know businesses are in a space and 2902 02:07:40,239 --> 02:07:43,199 they're out of space. Um, some 2903 02:07:43,199 --> 02:07:45,119 businesses, some some spaces are not 2904 02:07:45,119 --> 02:07:46,960 listed 2905 02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:49,360 and it's up, it's really the broker's 2906 02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:51,599 responsibility to try to fill that 2907 02:07:51,599 --> 02:07:54,000 space. And it's our responsibility when 2908 02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:55,360 they have someone that wants to go into 2909 02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:58,480 that space to make sure that we can help 2910 02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:00,400 them with permitting and all those 2911 02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:03,199 different things to get into the space. 2912 02:08:03,199 --> 02:08:06,480 Um, we don't own any of those buildings. 2913 02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:08,320 All we can do is when someone says, "I'm 2914 02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:10,320 looking for a certain size," we talk to 2915 02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:12,079 a broker or we look to look at a 2916 02:08:12,079 --> 02:08:16,000 database or contact inside the cab and 2917 02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:18,400 they let us know um we have these many 2918 02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:20,400 buildings available that will meet the 2919 02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:22,719 needs of this particular prospect 2920 02:08:22,719 --> 02:08:24,159 and then what we do is get with the 2921 02:08:24,159 --> 02:08:26,480 prospect, show them the list, and if 2922 02:08:26,480 --> 02:08:27,679 there's anything they have an interest 2923 02:08:27,679 --> 02:08:29,679 in, then we put them in the car. We take 2924 02:08:29,679 --> 02:08:31,760 them to see it and the brokers are there 2925 02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:33,920 to meet us to let us in so they can look 2926 02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:40,149 around, what have you. 2927 02:08:40,159 --> 02:08:41,679 Do you know what's going on with Bank of 2928 02:08:41,679 --> 02:08:43,840 America? 2929 02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:47,030 >> Um, I do know they had an auction. Um, I 2930 02:08:47,030 --> 02:08:47,040 » Um, I do know they had an auction. Um, I 2931 02:08:47,040 --> 02:08:48,880 don't know who purchased the building, 2932 02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:50,400 but I'm pretty sure that that would that 2933 02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:53,199 will come up pretty soon. Um, and since 2934 02:08:53,199 --> 02:08:55,440 we were talking about other buildings, 2935 02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:57,360 um, with Smoky Bones, they are in 2936 02:08:57,360 --> 02:08:59,040 bankruptcy. 2937 02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:00,800 And when the buildings in bankruptcy 2938 02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:03,199 like that, um, they're off limits until 2939 02:09:03,199 --> 02:09:05,520 it's completed because they take they 2940 02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:08,079 seize all the different assets. So, a 2941 02:09:08,079 --> 02:09:10,239 lot of buildings that you see that were 2942 02:09:10,239 --> 02:09:13,199 vacated by these national chains, um, we 2943 02:09:13,199 --> 02:09:15,440 can't touch them just yet. 2944 02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:19,119 Um, the American Signature Building has 2945 02:09:19,119 --> 02:09:20,639 decided they want to have another 2946 02:09:20,639 --> 02:09:23,040 furniture company to come in. And the 2947 02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:25,040 reason why just makes sense because 2948 02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:26,560 they're already set up for a furniture 2949 02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:28,960 company. And if another use comes in, 2950 02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:30,800 then you got to have a discussion about 2951 02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:32,880 tenant improvements. 2952 02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:36,320 So they're laser focused on another 2953 02:09:36,320 --> 02:09:39,280 furniture company. I f I went to them 2954 02:09:39,280 --> 02:09:42,239 about an idea that says no, we want a 2955 02:09:42,239 --> 02:09:45,119 furniture company. So the bottom line is 2956 02:09:45,119 --> 02:09:46,960 a lot of these properties are controlled 2957 02:09:46,960 --> 02:09:49,679 by the owners and they can determine 2958 02:09:49,679 --> 02:09:52,400 what they want into it. But I will say 2959 02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:55,199 my concern that I have is that a lot of 2960 02:09:55,199 --> 02:09:57,599 the property owners and the brokers are 2961 02:09:57,599 --> 02:09:59,520 not keeping the properties up the way 2962 02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:01,119 that they should be. And that's why I'm 2963 02:10:01,119 --> 02:10:04,000 glad that you initiating this effort to 2964 02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:06,079 have one of my colleagues ride around 2965 02:10:06,079 --> 02:10:08,159 and take a look to see so we can get 2966 02:10:08,159 --> 02:10:10,480 code enforcement on it because it's 2967 02:10:10,480 --> 02:10:14,159 difficult to bring businesses in 2968 02:10:14,159 --> 02:10:15,920 look at space and the space doesn't look 2969 02:10:15,920 --> 02:10:19,679 very good and it's not functional. 2970 02:10:19,679 --> 02:10:21,440 So, let's see if we can make some 2971 02:10:21,440 --> 02:10:26,790 improvements there. 2972 02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:28,000 » Council, do you have any other 2973 02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:29,280 questions? 2974 02:10:29,280 --> 02:10:30,790 >> Mayor Pro Tim. 2975 02:10:30,790 --> 02:10:30,800 » Mayor Pro Tim. 2976 02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:34,149 >> Councilwoman Smith. 2977 02:10:34,149 --> 02:10:34,159 » Councilwoman Smith. 2978 02:10:34,159 --> 02:10:37,430 >> Um, I do have one more question. Mayor 2979 02:10:37,430 --> 02:10:37,440 » Um, I do have one more question. Mayor 2980 02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:39,760 Pro Tim asked about welcoming the new 2981 02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:42,880 businesses in. And when a new business 2982 02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:45,040 comes in, I understand the whole broker 2983 02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:47,440 process, but when a new business comes 2984 02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:50,880 in, they should be um obtaining a 2985 02:10:50,880 --> 02:10:53,199 business license from the city of Stone 2986 02:10:53,199 --> 02:10:55,360 Crest. Correct. 2987 02:10:55,360 --> 02:10:56,310 >> Correct. 2988 02:10:56,310 --> 02:10:56,320 » Correct. 2989 02:10:56,320 --> 02:10:58,709 >> Okay. So, that's one way for us to track 2990 02:10:58,709 --> 02:10:58,719 » Okay. So, that's one way for us to track 2991 02:10:58,719 --> 02:11:01,520 them. But if I understand correctly from 2992 02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:04,159 some of our previous meetings, they 2993 02:11:04,159 --> 02:11:06,159 don't always come and get a business 2994 02:11:06,159 --> 02:11:10,560 license from the city of Stone Crest. 2995 02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:12,719 That could be possible. There are some 2996 02:11:12,719 --> 02:11:14,960 businesses that are out there that 2997 02:11:14,960 --> 02:11:17,040 signed the lease 2998 02:11:17,040 --> 02:11:18,880 and there's no way that the landlord 2999 02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:20,719 knows that they don't have a business 3000 02:11:20,719 --> 02:11:23,119 license unless they tell them. And I 3001 02:11:23,119 --> 02:11:24,639 think we had a discussion, me and the 3002 02:11:24,639 --> 02:11:26,320 city manager, might need to take a look 3003 02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:29,199 at some type of policy consideration 3004 02:11:29,199 --> 02:11:30,719 where 3005 02:11:30,719 --> 02:11:34,800 um any property owner that wants to 3006 02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:38,000 lease out their space to a business, 3007 02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:39,920 they must verify that they have a 3008 02:11:39,920 --> 02:11:42,320 business license. Because if they don't 3009 02:11:42,320 --> 02:11:45,119 and code enforcement begins to spec and 3010 02:11:45,119 --> 02:11:46,719 they find out that that business is 3011 02:11:46,719 --> 02:11:48,960 operating in a space without a business 3012 02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:51,760 license, then not only will the business 3013 02:11:51,760 --> 02:11:53,840 be sanctioned, but the property owner 3014 02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:56,560 should also be sanctioned knowing that 3015 02:11:56,560 --> 02:11:58,000 you're allowing a legal business to 3016 02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:00,000 operate in your space. So that's 3017 02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:02,000 something that we we need to look at. 3018 02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:05,189 >> Agreed. Okay. Thank you. 3019 02:12:05,189 --> 02:12:05,199 » Agreed. Okay. Thank you. 3020 02:12:05,199 --> 02:12:06,560 I yield. 3021 02:12:06,560 --> 02:12:09,109 >> Thank you, Councilwoman Smith. Um, Mayor 3022 02:12:09,109 --> 02:12:09,119 » Thank you, Councilwoman Smith. Um, Mayor 3023 02:12:09,119 --> 02:12:10,719 Proin, 3024 02:12:10,719 --> 02:12:13,910 >> Councilwoman Washington, 3025 02:12:13,910 --> 02:12:13,920 » Councilwoman Washington, 3026 02:12:13,920 --> 02:12:15,990 >> um, I know you were mentioning about the 3027 02:12:15,990 --> 02:12:16,000 » um, I know you were mentioning about the 3028 02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:19,119 businesses coming and I know for a fact 3029 02:12:19,119 --> 02:12:21,520 that there was supposed to be a 24-hour 3030 02:12:21,520 --> 02:12:24,079 fitness um, used to be a furniture 3031 02:12:24,079 --> 02:12:26,159 store. Did you hear anything else about 3032 02:12:26,159 --> 02:12:28,000 that? They've been advertising a couple 3033 02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:30,960 of times at some of our events, but I 3034 02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:33,440 haven't heard anything from them. So, do 3035 02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:34,880 you know what's happening with that? 3036 02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:36,629 >> I don't. I reached out to him a couple 3037 02:12:36,629 --> 02:12:36,639 » I don't. I reached out to him a couple 3038 02:12:36,639 --> 02:12:38,079 times. We talked and said they were 3039 02:12:38,079 --> 02:12:40,480 going through the process, but 3040 02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:42,159 apparently something's holding them up. 3041 02:12:42,159 --> 02:12:45,040 Um, I will say that I think a lot of the 3042 02:12:45,040 --> 02:12:47,119 challenges is that we have to go to 3043 02:12:47,119 --> 02:12:49,760 Dicab County, go to the fire marshall to 3044 02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:51,920 get things done and that could take a 3045 02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:53,360 lot of time because we don't have our 3046 02:12:53,360 --> 02:12:54,880 own fire marshall. So, we have to depend 3047 02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:57,679 on them and there's no way to jump the 3048 02:12:57,679 --> 02:12:59,199 line. 3049 02:12:59,199 --> 02:13:00,880 It's a long line of people trying to get 3050 02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:03,119 approval through the fire marshall. They 3051 02:13:03,119 --> 02:13:05,280 have to take a look at those plans in 3052 02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:07,119 detail to make sure that everything's in 3053 02:13:07,119 --> 02:13:09,040 place, that people are safe, and it 3054 02:13:09,040 --> 02:13:12,079 takes time. So, um I've talked to a lot 3055 02:13:12,079 --> 02:13:14,639 of businesses that just waiting on that. 3056 02:13:14,639 --> 02:13:16,560 Uh I wish there was some something we 3057 02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:18,320 could do, 3058 02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:20,000 but when you're in the queue, all you 3059 02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:22,639 can do is wait till your turn and um 3060 02:13:22,639 --> 02:13:24,719 it's it's a challenge that we have to do 3061 02:13:24,719 --> 02:13:27,840 that, but that's just how it is. 3062 02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:30,960 Um I also was curious uh I know how we 3063 02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:33,119 said the importance of tourism is here 3064 02:13:33,119 --> 02:13:36,880 in Stone Crest. Uh Discover the cab um 3065 02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:39,760 do they give you a uh update on the 3066 02:13:39,760 --> 02:13:41,920 things that they do for us here in the 3067 02:13:41,920 --> 02:13:43,040 city 3068 02:13:43,040 --> 02:13:45,510 >> or do can you can they give us what they 3069 02:13:45,510 --> 02:13:45,520 » or do can you can they give us what they 3070 02:13:45,520 --> 02:13:47,760 do to help us in tourism? 3071 02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:50,149 >> I I have yet to receive anything from 3072 02:13:50,149 --> 02:13:50,159 » I I have yet to receive anything from 3073 02:13:50,159 --> 02:13:52,239 them. I do know that we give them a lot 3074 02:13:52,239 --> 02:13:53,040 of money more than 3075 02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:55,109 >> Yeah, we give them money. Right. Exactly 3076 02:13:55,109 --> 02:13:55,119 » Yeah, we give them money. Right. Exactly 3077 02:13:55,119 --> 02:13:55,440 right. 3078 02:13:55,440 --> 02:13:57,750 >> We should receive some type of update 3079 02:13:57,750 --> 02:13:57,760 » We should receive some type of update 3080 02:13:57,760 --> 02:13:59,679 from them about what it is that they do 3081 02:13:59,679 --> 02:14:02,719 to help help tourism here in the city of 3082 02:14:02,719 --> 02:14:03,760 Stone Crest. 3083 02:14:03,760 --> 02:14:05,910 >> I do know they market the Cab County as 3084 02:14:05,910 --> 02:14:05,920 » I do know they market the Cab County as 3085 02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:08,159 a whole and include us. But you're 3086 02:14:08,159 --> 02:14:10,719 right. We we need to know exactly what 3087 02:14:10,719 --> 02:14:12,480 you're doing to support us. 3088 02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:13,109 >> Yes. 3089 02:14:13,109 --> 02:14:13,119 » Yes. 3090 02:14:13,119 --> 02:14:16,550 >> And again, we don't have a lot of stuff 3091 02:14:16,550 --> 02:14:16,560 » And again, we don't have a lot of stuff 3092 02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:18,239 right now, but it's coming. But we do 3093 02:14:18,239 --> 02:14:20,880 have the agro tourism. So, I will make 3094 02:14:20,880 --> 02:14:23,440 it a point to meet with them and say, 3095 02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:25,440 "Listen, you know, we're still building 3096 02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:27,840 the city, but we do have this asset, 3097 02:14:27,840 --> 02:14:30,400 this natural asset, and we need to know 3098 02:14:30,400 --> 02:14:34,400 what are you doing to help get the word 3099 02:14:34,400 --> 02:14:37,199 out about this asset, and depending on 3100 02:14:37,199 --> 02:14:38,800 the answer will determine how we go 3101 02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:41,280 forward. um nothing's being done, then 3102 02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:44,079 we got to put something in place to make 3103 02:14:44,079 --> 02:14:46,480 sure that they understand the money that 3104 02:14:46,480 --> 02:14:48,000 we're giving you, we need you to invest 3105 02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:51,199 to market what we have, which is higher 3106 02:14:51,199 --> 02:14:52,239 tourism. 3107 02:14:52,239 --> 02:14:54,709 >> Yes. Thank you. Appreciate that. I 3108 02:14:54,709 --> 02:14:54,719 » Yes. Thank you. Appreciate that. I 3109 02:14:54,719 --> 02:14:55,760 yield. 3110 02:14:55,760 --> 02:15:00,069 >> Thank you, Councilwoman Washington. 3111 02:15:00,079 --> 02:15:01,920 Director Lance, you mentioned you're 3112 02:15:01,920 --> 02:15:04,960 having um or we're having issues with 3113 02:15:04,960 --> 02:15:07,599 the fire marshal with the cat and that's 3114 02:15:07,599 --> 02:15:10,000 what's holding up. Yeah, in a lot of 3115 02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:12,159 instances, um, a lot of businesses have 3116 02:15:12,159 --> 02:15:15,199 to go when you go into a new space, the 3117 02:15:15,199 --> 02:15:19,599 previous use may not, um, and the 3118 02:15:19,599 --> 02:15:21,920 changes that you're going to make will 3119 02:15:21,920 --> 02:15:23,840 have to be approved by the fire 3120 02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:27,280 marshall. Like, like for example, let's 3121 02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:29,760 take, um, 3122 02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:31,040 let's take the Black Wall Street 3123 02:15:31,040 --> 02:15:34,000 building. Um, it was a Target. And when 3124 02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:36,719 you look at most large retail box stores 3125 02:15:36,719 --> 02:15:39,360 like that, you see a bunch of shelves 3126 02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:40,719 that are not permanent inside the 3127 02:15:40,719 --> 02:15:43,040 building and they're made out of metal. 3128 02:15:43,040 --> 02:15:45,520 When you take all those fixtures out, 3129 02:15:45,520 --> 02:15:47,840 it's just an open space typically with 3130 02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:50,480 metal bars holding the building up. With 3131 02:15:50,480 --> 02:15:52,159 that being the case, they don't need the 3132 02:15:52,159 --> 02:15:54,079 level of fire suppression because they 3133 02:15:54,079 --> 02:15:55,679 don't have the wood, the walls, and 3134 02:15:55,679 --> 02:15:57,599 stuff like that that burns. But if 3135 02:15:57,599 --> 02:15:59,280 someone were to come in and say that 3136 02:15:59,280 --> 02:16:01,440 they were going to renovate the space, 3137 02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:03,599 add a bunch of rooms, offices, and 3138 02:16:03,599 --> 02:16:06,000 things like that, then the fire 3139 02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:07,679 suppression system is going to have to 3140 02:16:07,679 --> 02:16:10,239 be improved tremendously because you 3141 02:16:10,239 --> 02:16:12,400 have to make sure that the new use is 3142 02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:14,239 safe, which means that they have to 3143 02:16:14,239 --> 02:16:16,719 present some type of fire prevention 3144 02:16:16,719 --> 02:16:20,560 plan based on the drawings and they have 3145 02:16:20,560 --> 02:16:22,639 to submit that to to the Cap County Fire 3146 02:16:22,639 --> 02:16:24,880 Marshall and they go through those plans 3147 02:16:24,880 --> 02:16:27,840 with a fine tooth comb And it's very 3148 02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:30,239 frustrating because there's so many 3149 02:16:30,239 --> 02:16:32,399 people that are in the queue trying to 3150 02:16:32,399 --> 02:16:34,559 get their plans approved, including 3151 02:16:34,559 --> 02:16:36,639 ours. And it is a challenge for some 3152 02:16:36,639 --> 02:16:38,559 businesses who have been waiting for a 3153 02:16:38,559 --> 02:16:41,200 very long time. They're ready to go. But 3154 02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:42,639 until they get the okay, that the 3155 02:16:42,639 --> 02:16:45,280 building is safe, then they have to 3156 02:16:45,280 --> 02:16:46,559 continue to wait until they get it 3157 02:16:46,559 --> 02:16:53,429 approved. 3158 02:16:53,439 --> 02:16:57,120 But it's not a slap or anything at at 3159 02:16:57,120 --> 02:16:58,719 the fire marshall. It's just that's just 3160 02:16:58,719 --> 02:17:00,960 the way it is. Um they're trying to 3161 02:17:00,960 --> 02:17:03,040 service all the cap county and other 3162 02:17:03,040 --> 02:17:04,719 cities do the same things as we do, rely 3163 02:17:04,719 --> 02:17:10,549 on them to do the fire marshall work. 3164 02:17:10,559 --> 02:17:12,479 » And my last question, have you had a 3165 02:17:12,479 --> 02:17:15,599 chance to tour Flat Rock? 3166 02:17:15,599 --> 02:17:19,589 Flat Rock, 3167 02:17:19,599 --> 02:17:22,639 you know, um I drive through there every 3168 02:17:22,639 --> 02:17:24,319 day. 3169 02:17:24,319 --> 02:17:27,280 Um I haven't had a chance to 3170 02:17:27,280 --> 02:17:28,960 walk the trails and all that type of 3171 02:17:28,960 --> 02:17:31,679 stuff, but I've done a lot of research 3172 02:17:31,679 --> 02:17:33,519 on it, which I had to do before coming 3173 02:17:33,519 --> 02:17:36,240 here to get this position. 3174 02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:39,120 I think it's it's fascinating. Um I was 3175 02:17:39,120 --> 02:17:42,639 playing golf yesterday, no Saturday of 3176 02:17:42,639 --> 02:17:45,040 the Polola Mountain Golf Course and was 3177 02:17:45,040 --> 02:17:46,399 able to see pondola mountain for the 3178 02:17:46,399 --> 02:17:48,960 first time on the golf course. So I will 3179 02:17:48,960 --> 02:17:51,439 say that um one of the biggest assets 3180 02:17:51,439 --> 02:17:53,200 that we have that we have to capitalize 3181 02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:55,679 on when it comes to tourism 3182 02:17:55,679 --> 02:17:57,760 is the flat rock community which has a 3183 02:17:57,760 --> 02:18:00,800 very significant historical perspective 3184 02:18:00,800 --> 02:18:02,479 which which the first settlers were 3185 02:18:02,479 --> 02:18:05,040 black on flat rock. That's very 3186 02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:07,120 important perspective and how it's 3187 02:18:07,120 --> 02:18:09,599 remain maintained that beauty and and 3188 02:18:09,599 --> 02:18:11,679 the granite and all this type of stuff. 3189 02:18:11,679 --> 02:18:13,519 But eventually I will get a chance to to 3190 02:18:13,519 --> 02:18:16,479 make that walk and really tour the area 3191 02:18:16,479 --> 02:18:19,280 because um I think it's beautiful place 3192 02:18:19,280 --> 02:18:20,240 to see. 3193 02:18:20,240 --> 02:18:22,389 >> Absolutely. I guess you can reach out to 3194 02:18:22,389 --> 02:18:22,399 » Absolutely. I guess you can reach out to 3195 02:18:22,399 --> 02:18:25,760 Mrs. Cheryl Matthysse more and she can 3196 02:18:25,760 --> 02:18:28,000 do that tour with you. 3197 02:18:28,000 --> 02:18:30,070 >> You're right. I think I will do that. 3198 02:18:30,070 --> 02:18:30,080 » You're right. I think I will do that. 3199 02:18:30,080 --> 02:18:31,589 >> Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you so 3200 02:18:31,589 --> 02:18:31,599 » Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you so 3201 02:18:31,599 --> 02:18:33,200 much for your presentation unless 3202 02:18:33,200 --> 02:18:36,880 council have some additional questions. 3203 02:18:36,880 --> 02:18:39,669 >> Mayor Pim, I just have one more. Uh 3204 02:18:39,669 --> 02:18:39,679 » Mayor Pim, I just have one more. Uh 3205 02:18:39,679 --> 02:18:43,200 we're talking about fire and the fire uh 3206 02:18:43,200 --> 02:18:44,880 inspections and things like that. It 3207 02:18:44,880 --> 02:18:47,920 brought to mind the um down the street 3208 02:18:47,920 --> 02:18:49,359 uh where they're going to do the new 3209 02:18:49,359 --> 02:18:51,439 fire. I know it's a Dicab County 3210 02:18:51,439 --> 02:18:53,840 project. Have you heard anything about 3211 02:18:53,840 --> 02:18:54,960 when they're going to I know they 3212 02:18:54,960 --> 02:18:56,960 cleared the land. Uh have you heard 3213 02:18:56,960 --> 02:18:59,439 anything more about when they tend to 3214 02:18:59,439 --> 02:19:01,920 build or start that project? 3215 02:19:01,920 --> 02:19:03,750 >> Um I haven't heard anything but I do 3216 02:19:03,750 --> 02:19:03,760 » Um I haven't heard anything but I do 3217 02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:05,120 know that's part probably part of the 3218 02:19:05,120 --> 02:19:08,880 capital budget. So, um it's probably a 3219 02:19:08,880 --> 02:19:10,880 question we need to ask to see where it 3220 02:19:10,880 --> 02:19:13,840 is as far as the capital budget plan um 3221 02:19:13,840 --> 02:19:15,760 when it's going to be done, but um I 3222 02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:17,200 don't know, but I can try to find out or 3223 02:19:17,200 --> 02:19:19,679 ask some questions to see if we can get 3224 02:19:19,679 --> 02:19:21,040 a timeline of when it's going to be 3225 02:19:21,040 --> 02:19:23,679 done. 3226 02:19:23,679 --> 02:19:27,429 >> Thank you. 3227 02:19:27,439 --> 02:19:28,880 » Thank you, Mr. Randall. I appreciate 3228 02:19:28,880 --> 02:19:29,359 you. 3229 02:19:29,359 --> 02:19:31,830 >> Yes, ma'am. 3230 02:19:31,830 --> 02:19:31,840 » Yes, ma'am. 3231 02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:34,080 Next on the the agenda is for 3232 02:19:34,080 --> 02:19:36,399 discussion. Code enforcement department 3233 02:19:36,399 --> 02:19:43,830 update by director Q. 3234 02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:47,200 » Oh, I'm sorry. Good evening. We're going 3235 02:19:47,200 --> 02:19:49,991 to give Director Q a little break. 3236 02:19:49,991 --> 02:19:50,399 [laughter] 3237 02:19:50,399 --> 02:19:52,070 >> Well, thank you, Miss White. I 3238 02:19:52,070 --> 02:19:52,080 » Well, thank you, Miss White. I 3239 02:19:52,080 --> 02:19:53,439 appreciate you. Code enforcement 3240 02:19:53,439 --> 02:19:54,880 assistant director. 3241 02:19:54,880 --> 02:19:57,349 >> Yes. Um, Director Buck couldn't be here 3242 02:19:57,349 --> 02:19:57,359 » Yes. Um, Director Buck couldn't be here 3243 02:19:57,359 --> 02:20:14,950 this evening, but he sends his regard. 3244 02:20:14,960 --> 02:20:16,319 Okay. [laughter] 3245 02:20:16,319 --> 02:20:20,800 Good afternoon, uh, council. Um, I'm 3246 02:20:20,800 --> 02:20:22,319 Tasha White. I'm the assistant director 3247 02:20:22,319 --> 02:20:26,080 for code enforcement. Um, so to get 3248 02:20:26,080 --> 02:20:35,270 started, um, 3249 02:20:35,280 --> 02:20:37,359 So, I'm going start off basically um 3250 02:20:37,359 --> 02:20:41,760 just with our cases um to just kind of 3251 02:20:41,760 --> 02:20:45,600 give you all some of our challenges that 3252 02:20:45,600 --> 02:20:47,600 we're having as far as the post because 3253 02:20:47,600 --> 02:20:50,240 I know that comes up a lot with council 3254 02:20:50,240 --> 02:20:52,240 um just questioning us about a lot of 3255 02:20:52,240 --> 02:20:55,600 things that happen. Um but initially um 3256 02:20:55,600 --> 02:20:58,800 we get um our inspections either from 3257 02:20:58,800 --> 02:21:01,840 the officers being out in the field um 3258 02:21:01,840 --> 02:21:03,600 seeing the inspection uh seeing 3259 02:21:03,600 --> 02:21:07,359 violations or we get the calls, emails, 3260 02:21:07,359 --> 02:21:10,160 stopped in the street etc. um about 3261 02:21:10,160 --> 02:21:11,840 different uh issues going on with the 3262 02:21:11,840 --> 02:21:14,560 city. Um it starts with initial 3263 02:21:14,560 --> 02:21:17,840 inspection. Um if there's a violation um 3264 02:21:17,840 --> 02:21:19,920 usually a notice is uh issued to the 3265 02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:22,080 property owner. Um there are cases where 3266 02:21:22,080 --> 02:21:23,920 we will go straight to citation. It just 3267 02:21:23,920 --> 02:21:25,120 depends on if we've been to that 3268 02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:27,520 property numerous time about the same 3269 02:21:27,520 --> 02:21:30,240 thing. Um 3270 02:21:30,240 --> 02:21:32,319 then uh but normally it goes through our 3271 02:21:32,319 --> 02:21:34,319 notice. We get get a notice of violation 3272 02:21:34,319 --> 02:21:36,960 and they have a date to comply. We also 3273 02:21:36,960 --> 02:21:39,120 offer um extensions for those who have 3274 02:21:39,120 --> 02:21:40,800 hardships or anything like that. They 3275 02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:43,120 have to submit um an extension form 3276 02:21:43,120 --> 02:21:44,960 requesting that time frame, you know, 3277 02:21:44,960 --> 02:21:47,920 requesting additional time. Um sometimes 3278 02:21:47,920 --> 02:21:49,200 we're allowed to give that just depends 3279 02:21:49,200 --> 02:21:51,120 on what the situation is and if they've 3280 02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:53,280 cleared any other violations on the 3281 02:21:53,280 --> 02:21:57,040 property as well. Um and if they have it 3282 02:21:57,040 --> 02:22:00,399 completed by the time that the uh 3283 02:22:00,399 --> 02:22:02,560 compliance date come, a citation is 3284 02:22:02,560 --> 02:22:04,880 issued. 3285 02:22:04,880 --> 02:22:07,840 Um are for the the owner to appear in 3286 02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:14,950 court um to answer to those charges. Um 3287 02:22:14,960 --> 02:22:17,920 and then if they are in compliance is 3288 02:22:17,920 --> 02:22:19,840 that's where our issue comes where we 3289 02:22:19,840 --> 02:22:24,800 have repeated uh citations back to court 3290 02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:26,960 citations back to court if they even 3291 02:22:26,960 --> 02:22:29,280 appear in court. One of our biggest 3292 02:22:29,280 --> 02:22:31,520 problems that we definitely have are our 3293 02:22:31,520 --> 02:22:35,200 FTA which is our failure to appear. 3294 02:22:35,200 --> 02:22:37,359 And I didn't I couldn't get a a 3295 02:22:37,359 --> 02:22:40,319 approximate number, but um just to kind 3296 02:22:40,319 --> 02:22:42,880 of give you an idea, we have over 600 3297 02:22:42,880 --> 02:22:47,200 active cases overall and the 75% of them 3298 02:22:47,200 --> 02:22:50,479 are going through the cycle of repeat 3299 02:22:50,479 --> 02:22:53,200 citations, repeat violations or never 3300 02:22:53,200 --> 02:22:56,560 have been resolved at all. 3301 02:22:56,560 --> 02:22:58,880 Okay. Uh we have been successful with 3302 02:22:58,880 --> 02:23:00,640 some of our egregious properties, but 3303 02:23:00,640 --> 02:23:03,520 that is usually after continuous 3304 02:23:03,520 --> 02:23:06,720 continuous uh citations or new owner 3305 02:23:06,720 --> 02:23:08,399 pops up and they're willing to get the 3306 02:23:08,399 --> 02:23:12,319 property into the flight. That's usually 3307 02:23:12,319 --> 02:23:16,240 how we get some of those involved. Um so 3308 02:23:16,240 --> 02:23:18,560 that's one of our things that we we we 3309 02:23:18,560 --> 02:23:21,600 constantly deal with with um addressing 3310 02:23:21,600 --> 02:23:25,349 violations. 3311 02:23:25,359 --> 02:23:27,120 Okay. 3312 02:23:27,120 --> 02:23:29,359 So, um we have identified our first 3313 02:23:29,359 --> 02:23:32,080 group of abatement properties. Um since 3314 02:23:32,080 --> 02:23:35,920 the abatement process went through, um 3315 02:23:35,920 --> 02:23:37,120 that's something we'll probably have to 3316 02:23:37,120 --> 02:23:39,840 get with our uh city manager now because 3317 02:23:39,840 --> 02:23:42,560 that's where held up the last time that 3318 02:23:42,560 --> 02:23:45,680 uh that we they um we were asked to 3319 02:23:45,680 --> 02:23:48,319 recite the properties and basically 3320 02:23:48,319 --> 02:23:50,000 bring them forth to say what if they 3321 02:23:50,000 --> 02:23:52,560 were what you all wanted to go forth 3322 02:23:52,560 --> 02:23:54,560 with a bait. 3323 02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:57,760 Um but um the most we've had to do is 3324 02:23:57,760 --> 02:24:00,640 identify them, show the reasons, and 3325 02:24:00,640 --> 02:24:03,600 then it is more so a movement of getting 3326 02:24:03,600 --> 02:24:07,600 in front of a judge him or her uh 3327 02:24:07,600 --> 02:24:09,920 approving those viol proving that that 3328 02:24:09,920 --> 02:24:11,120 they should go through abatement that 3329 02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:13,120 that we have just cause and then going 3330 02:24:13,120 --> 02:24:16,720 forward with them. Um 3331 02:24:16,720 --> 02:24:18,960 over the time frame at least about a 3332 02:24:18,960 --> 02:24:20,560 year and a half uh we have addressed 3333 02:24:20,560 --> 02:24:24,720 over 340 businesses kind of um that had 3334 02:24:24,720 --> 02:24:26,640 have either had no business license or 3335 02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:30,080 expired business license. Um some of 3336 02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:34,000 those businesses um have closed because 3337 02:24:34,000 --> 02:24:36,640 they uh just don't want to hear to the 3338 02:24:36,640 --> 02:24:38,479 to the the ordinance of getting a 3339 02:24:38,479 --> 02:24:40,240 business license. They feel they need to 3340 02:24:40,240 --> 02:24:43,840 have a business license. Um, so we uh we 3341 02:24:43,840 --> 02:24:45,760 work with those who uh do attempt to try 3342 02:24:45,760 --> 02:24:48,160 to get their business license. Um, we do 3343 02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:49,760 also know that there there are a lot of 3344 02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:50,960 things that's held up with the fire 3345 02:24:50,960 --> 02:24:52,160 department and we work with those 3346 02:24:52,160 --> 02:24:55,840 businesses as well. Um, we attend 3347 02:24:55,840 --> 02:24:58,399 numerous community meetings, events just 3348 02:24:58,399 --> 02:25:02,880 to educate citizens. Um, we even go out 3349 02:25:02,880 --> 02:25:05,760 to property to talk with the the the 3350 02:25:05,760 --> 02:25:07,520 violators as well as the concerned 3351 02:25:07,520 --> 02:25:09,280 citizens to see if some of the things 3352 02:25:09,280 --> 02:25:11,520 are even enforceable. Some things are 3353 02:25:11,520 --> 02:25:13,280 enforceable, some aren't. Some some 3354 02:25:13,280 --> 02:25:15,439 don't fall into our purview, but we'll 3355 02:25:15,439 --> 02:25:17,040 try to assist as much as we can with 3356 02:25:17,040 --> 02:25:21,920 anything that they have issues with. Um, 3357 02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:23,760 one of the newest ones that I think 3358 02:25:23,760 --> 02:25:28,000 we've come across is the detention ponds 3359 02:25:28,000 --> 02:25:30,960 and those retention areas that were I 3360 02:25:30,960 --> 02:25:33,280 guess one m once maintained by the cab 3361 02:25:33,280 --> 02:25:34,800 county 3362 02:25:34,800 --> 02:25:37,920 and for some reason they're no longer. 3363 02:25:37,920 --> 02:25:40,080 But um what we're finding is that the 3364 02:25:40,080 --> 02:25:43,600 property owners own those where that 3365 02:25:43,600 --> 02:25:47,120 those uh yeah retention ponds are. So 3366 02:25:47,120 --> 02:25:50,240 it's kind of getting left on them. Um I 3367 02:25:50,240 --> 02:25:54,240 have I've had at least three in the last 3368 02:25:54,240 --> 02:25:56,880 two weeks. So I know that's probably 3369 02:25:56,880 --> 02:25:58,160 going to be a concern that does come 3370 02:25:58,160 --> 02:26:00,720 your way. Um I'm not sure what we do 3371 02:26:00,720 --> 02:26:01,840 with those. Those are one of the 3372 02:26:01,840 --> 02:26:03,920 challenges that we do have and we're not 3373 02:26:03,920 --> 02:26:05,520 sure where those are supposed to go 3374 02:26:05,520 --> 02:26:08,240 other than with the property owner, but 3375 02:26:08,240 --> 02:26:11,439 I know for sure that they're going to 3376 02:26:11,439 --> 02:26:15,600 raise some some concerns with that. Um, 3377 02:26:15,600 --> 02:26:18,720 we were able to reduce the number of 3378 02:26:18,720 --> 02:26:21,920 illegal vendors um significantly around 3379 02:26:21,920 --> 02:26:24,880 the the city, mostly because we 3380 02:26:24,880 --> 02:26:27,520 collectively and continuously cighted 3381 02:26:27,520 --> 02:26:31,200 the owners until they've either hired um 3382 02:26:31,200 --> 02:26:33,439 staff to monitor the property to get 3383 02:26:33,439 --> 02:26:35,760 people to leave. Um because one of the 3384 02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:38,640 issues we have come across is that um we 3385 02:26:38,640 --> 02:26:42,160 cannot we can only persuade vendors to 3386 02:26:42,160 --> 02:26:44,479 leave a property. We have no legal right 3387 02:26:44,479 --> 02:26:47,760 to tell them to leave. Um because it is 3388 02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:50,000 private property. When it's private 3389 02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:51,439 property, we have to deal with the owner 3390 02:26:51,439 --> 02:26:53,359 as we would for grass, trash, or 3391 02:26:53,359 --> 02:26:55,840 anything else. We have to notify them 3392 02:26:55,840 --> 02:26:57,680 that they're vendors. And of course, by 3393 02:26:57,680 --> 02:26:59,680 the time they get there, the vendors are 3394 02:26:59,680 --> 02:27:02,240 gone. So, um, a lot of times we're just 3395 02:27:02,240 --> 02:27:03,680 telling them that they may want to get 3396 02:27:03,680 --> 02:27:07,200 someone to monitor their property and be 3397 02:27:07,200 --> 02:27:09,520 the responsible party to contact the 3398 02:27:09,520 --> 02:27:11,680 cab. Uh, we do try to connect them with 3399 02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:14,160 the cab county so they can come into 3400 02:27:14,160 --> 02:27:15,760 some type of agreement about who can be 3401 02:27:15,760 --> 02:27:17,200 on their property, who they're allowing, 3402 02:27:17,200 --> 02:27:19,680 so that it's a little bit uh, smoother 3403 02:27:19,680 --> 02:27:22,319 to get that done. Um, because we can't 3404 02:27:22,319 --> 02:27:24,000 be 3405 02:27:24,000 --> 02:27:27,040 the ones that say they have to go. 3406 02:27:27,040 --> 02:27:28,800 So it has to be a property owner. We 3407 02:27:28,800 --> 02:27:30,399 have come across that the way it has to 3408 02:27:30,399 --> 02:27:32,880 be a property owner that states that. Um 3409 02:27:32,880 --> 02:27:35,600 so we have worked with um because I 3410 02:27:35,600 --> 02:27:37,200 think one of the incidents I think was 3411 02:27:37,200 --> 02:27:41,520 on a Waffle House property off of uh 3412 02:27:41,520 --> 02:27:43,040 Canola 3413 02:27:43,040 --> 02:27:45,600 and I think uh there was a gentleman 3414 02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:49,760 that was living on the property and um 3415 02:27:49,760 --> 02:27:51,680 so we had to get them connected with the 3416 02:27:51,680 --> 02:27:54,640 cab in order to make those reports. So 3417 02:27:54,640 --> 02:27:56,240 that way if we're seeing we can just 3418 02:27:56,240 --> 02:27:57,600 notify them but they already have the 3419 02:27:57,600 --> 02:28:00,000 agreement to have that person removed. 3420 02:28:00,000 --> 02:28:02,080 So a lot of things like that we uh we 3421 02:28:02,080 --> 02:28:04,640 have been working with property owners 3422 02:28:04,640 --> 02:28:06,560 um to resolve a lot of the issues that 3423 02:28:06,560 --> 02:28:10,399 they have. Um one of the other issues 3424 02:28:10,399 --> 02:28:12,640 that we've come across is of course the 3425 02:28:12,640 --> 02:28:14,399 truck parking. That's one that is 3426 02:28:14,399 --> 02:28:19,670 brought up to us a lot. Um 3427 02:28:19,680 --> 02:28:22,960 the newest issue is uh the tow companies 3428 02:28:22,960 --> 02:28:26,479 not wanting to move commercial vehicles 3429 02:28:26,479 --> 02:28:30,160 in a short period of time. Our code does 3430 02:28:30,160 --> 02:28:32,640 allow them overnight does not allow them 3431 02:28:32,640 --> 02:28:36,309 overnight. So, 3432 02:28:36,319 --> 02:28:38,160 how we look at it as officers is 3433 02:28:38,160 --> 02:28:40,720 basically if you allowing a vehicle to 3434 02:28:40,720 --> 02:28:43,760 be parked there and you are closed, 3435 02:28:43,760 --> 02:28:45,520 there's no reason for that vehicle to be 3436 02:28:45,520 --> 02:28:48,000 there. Um 3437 02:28:48,000 --> 02:28:51,040 cuz it's cuz we know the the parking 3438 02:28:51,040 --> 02:28:54,399 lots that usually have these trucks that 3439 02:28:54,399 --> 02:28:56,479 they they just go park and then they go 3440 02:28:56,479 --> 02:28:58,720 home and they leave them there. So, we 3441 02:28:58,720 --> 02:29:01,359 have been working with each of the lots 3442 02:29:01,359 --> 02:29:04,880 that we have the most complaints about. 3443 02:29:04,880 --> 02:29:07,040 Basically, um just trying to get them 3444 02:29:07,040 --> 02:29:08,479 connect. We can't really connect them 3445 02:29:08,479 --> 02:29:09,920 with the tow truck companies. They have 3446 02:29:09,920 --> 02:29:12,160 to find their own. And then there's only 3447 02:29:12,160 --> 02:29:13,520 thing that we require is that they have 3448 02:29:13,520 --> 02:29:15,520 to have some type of signage letting 3449 02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:17,760 those who park those vehicles there 3450 02:29:17,760 --> 02:29:19,439 notice that they can be told at their 3451 02:29:19,439 --> 02:29:27,910 own expense. Um, 3452 02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:30,399 another issue that comes up um would be 3453 02:29:30,399 --> 02:29:32,640 vehicles on the street. 3454 02:29:32,640 --> 02:29:33,920 Vehicles parked on the street, there's 3455 02:29:33,920 --> 02:29:35,439 no way for us to identify those 3456 02:29:35,439 --> 02:29:38,240 vehicles, the owner of the vehicles. Um, 3457 02:29:38,240 --> 02:29:42,640 we rely on the residents to uh state 3458 02:29:42,640 --> 02:29:44,960 that yes, that's my vehicle. After we um 3459 02:29:44,960 --> 02:29:46,160 put our stickers on it, sometimes 3460 02:29:46,160 --> 02:29:47,359 they'll call us and say, "Yeah, that's 3461 02:29:47,359 --> 02:29:49,200 my vehicle." and then we find out where 3462 02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:50,720 they are and we can issue a proper 3463 02:29:50,720 --> 02:29:52,800 notice. But the tagging is really just 3464 02:29:52,800 --> 02:29:56,560 to get them to contact us. Um we we do 3465 02:29:56,560 --> 02:29:59,920 not remove the vehicles. um we uh send 3466 02:29:59,920 --> 02:30:04,000 those over to the cab county um to have 3467 02:30:04,000 --> 02:30:06,160 them removed and that's mostly for 3468 02:30:06,160 --> 02:30:08,479 vehicles that are inoperable, expired, 3469 02:30:08,479 --> 02:30:11,520 tag, abandoned and that type of thing 3470 02:30:11,520 --> 02:30:14,640 because they have the resources to find 3471 02:30:14,640 --> 02:30:17,040 the owners and who who owns that 3472 02:30:17,040 --> 02:30:27,190 particular vehicle. 3473 02:30:27,200 --> 02:30:29,680 Um well I've mentioned a couple of our 3474 02:30:29,680 --> 02:30:31,520 challenges which is the um failure to 3475 02:30:31,520 --> 02:30:35,200 appears having to do numerous repeat 3476 02:30:35,200 --> 02:30:38,479 citations to the owners and some of them 3477 02:30:38,479 --> 02:30:42,000 who pay the fine and and continue to 3478 02:30:42,000 --> 02:30:44,319 keep their property in the conditions 3479 02:30:44,319 --> 02:30:47,120 they are. Um 3480 02:30:47,120 --> 02:30:50,160 we um the the the only thing that we see 3481 02:30:50,160 --> 02:30:52,160 work is to continue to to site them and 3482 02:30:52,160 --> 02:30:54,560 that's the ones that show up. Um we're 3483 02:30:54,560 --> 02:30:56,479 able to normally 3484 02:30:56,479 --> 02:30:58,640 that citation 3485 02:30:58,640 --> 02:31:01,840 assists with uh persuading them to um 3486 02:31:01,840 --> 02:31:03,200 get the property in compliance because 3487 02:31:03,200 --> 02:31:04,880 they see that we we're not going to let 3488 02:31:04,880 --> 02:31:07,600 up. Um but the time frame that it's 3489 02:31:07,600 --> 02:31:10,399 taken has as has a lot most times have 3490 02:31:10,399 --> 02:31:12,880 been years. It is not something that's 3491 02:31:12,880 --> 02:31:15,520 months. It is it's usually the 3492 02:31:15,520 --> 02:31:17,840 cooperation of the person who owns the 3493 02:31:17,840 --> 02:31:19,600 property. If we don't have that 3494 02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:22,640 cooperation, we we're talking years. 3495 02:31:22,640 --> 02:31:25,040 Like I said, a lot of times it's when 3496 02:31:25,040 --> 02:31:26,479 decides they want to do something with 3497 02:31:26,479 --> 02:31:29,120 the property or buy the property and 3498 02:31:29,120 --> 02:31:31,120 that kind of thing. But other than that, 3499 02:31:31,120 --> 02:31:34,720 we we face a lot of um 3500 02:31:34,720 --> 02:31:38,560 standill with with getting those cases 3501 02:31:38,560 --> 02:31:42,399 into compliance. Um 3502 02:31:42,399 --> 02:31:44,640 also businesses that are allowed to 3503 02:31:44,640 --> 02:31:47,040 operate illegally. Um we get a lot of 3504 02:31:47,040 --> 02:31:49,359 calls from the businesses here about the 3505 02:31:49,359 --> 02:31:51,120 businesses that they know are operating 3506 02:31:51,120 --> 02:31:54,479 illegally. Um and we we're doing our is 3507 02:31:54,479 --> 02:31:56,560 all of the ones that are operating 3508 02:31:56,560 --> 02:31:58,319 illegally, but some of them will come 3509 02:31:58,319 --> 02:32:01,280 pay their fine and continue to operate 3510 02:32:01,280 --> 02:32:04,800 illegally. Um so that's something we 3511 02:32:04,800 --> 02:32:08,240 have been working on solutions for. Um 3512 02:32:08,240 --> 02:32:10,000 we tried some things but they are there 3513 02:32:10,000 --> 02:32:12,560 are people who will just pop up with any 3514 02:32:12,560 --> 02:32:15,680 type of business and go to operate. Um 3515 02:32:15,680 --> 02:32:18,560 we do uh 3516 02:32:18,560 --> 02:32:20,720 with businesses um I think it was 3517 02:32:20,720 --> 02:32:23,600 mentioned I think in um Mr. Randle's uh 3518 02:32:23,600 --> 02:32:26,800 presentation that we basically we we we 3519 02:32:26,800 --> 02:32:28,560 do go after the owners of the property 3520 02:32:28,560 --> 02:32:31,920 as well as the business owners. 3521 02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:33,520 Um 3522 02:32:33,520 --> 02:32:35,040 because basically they're allowing the 3523 02:32:35,040 --> 02:32:37,520 land to be used without proper approval. 3524 02:32:37,520 --> 02:32:38,880 Um and that's how we can get the 3525 02:32:38,880 --> 02:32:42,960 business owners for that as well as the 3526 02:32:42,960 --> 02:32:45,200 tenants the tenant or the business owner 3527 02:32:45,200 --> 02:32:47,040 as well. We try to get them both and a 3528 02:32:47,040 --> 02:32:49,520 lot of times the owners aren't even 3529 02:32:49,520 --> 02:32:52,479 aware that it's not allowed and that 3530 02:32:52,479 --> 02:32:54,319 type of thing. So, a lot of that um 3531 02:32:54,319 --> 02:32:56,800 falls into the education part of it. Um 3532 02:32:56,800 --> 02:33:00,240 just being able to educate these uh 3533 02:33:00,240 --> 02:33:01,840 property owners as well as the business 3534 02:33:01,840 --> 02:33:04,640 owners on what has to happen. Um we do 3535 02:33:04,640 --> 02:33:08,720 hold the property owners responsible um 3536 02:33:08,720 --> 02:33:10,319 if it's because a lot of times we might 3537 02:33:10,319 --> 02:33:12,479 not even know the name of the business. 3538 02:33:12,479 --> 02:33:16,080 We may just get the person's name of who 3539 02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:17,840 rented the property, but there's no 3540 02:33:17,840 --> 02:33:19,600 indication of what type of business it 3541 02:33:19,600 --> 02:33:22,080 is. Um, so we have run into some of 3542 02:33:22,080 --> 02:33:23,680 those issues, but we've been able to 3543 02:33:23,680 --> 02:33:27,439 kind of iron those out in court. Um, but 3544 02:33:27,439 --> 02:33:29,280 that's that's one of the biggest issues. 3545 02:33:29,280 --> 02:33:31,760 Um, one of the things that I I believe 3546 02:33:31,760 --> 02:33:33,280 that we should have is a rental 3547 02:33:33,280 --> 02:33:36,399 registry. A rental registry would assist 3548 02:33:36,399 --> 02:33:39,120 with us knowing who's at the location, 3549 02:33:39,120 --> 02:33:42,560 who's renting from you. um us just even 3550 02:33:42,560 --> 02:33:44,560 going out door to door just addressing 3551 02:33:44,560 --> 02:33:47,680 business license. We've come across 3552 02:33:47,680 --> 02:33:51,680 businesses that have basically allowed 3553 02:33:51,680 --> 02:33:53,520 two or three other businesses to run 3554 02:33:53,520 --> 02:33:56,160 businesses within one. Um so we come 3555 02:33:56,160 --> 02:33:59,520 across a lot as we are going out to the 3556 02:33:59,520 --> 02:34:02,000 properties and um addressing those 3557 02:34:02,000 --> 02:34:03,840 things. 3558 02:34:03,840 --> 02:34:06,240 So, I know the rental registry is one. 3559 02:34:06,240 --> 02:34:09,200 Um, having a lean process that kind of 3560 02:34:09,200 --> 02:34:10,960 eliminates us having to go back out to a 3561 02:34:10,960 --> 02:34:13,920 property numerous times for the same 3562 02:34:13,920 --> 02:34:15,600 thing and we know they haven't done 3563 02:34:15,600 --> 02:34:17,680 anything. Um, because they end up on our 3564 02:34:17,680 --> 02:34:19,760 docket and we have to go take a look at 3565 02:34:19,760 --> 02:34:22,080 to see what their current status is on 3566 02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:23,680 the properties and then many times 3567 02:34:23,680 --> 02:34:25,680 they've done nothing and it's 3568 02:34:25,680 --> 02:34:27,920 continuous. We've done amnesty to the 3569 02:34:27,920 --> 02:34:31,680 court and still not much has moved um 3570 02:34:31,680 --> 02:34:37,030 from those efforts. 3571 02:34:37,040 --> 02:34:42,389 Um 3572 02:34:42,399 --> 02:34:45,120 I'll open it up for any questions you 3573 02:34:45,120 --> 02:34:46,479 already have because I know you don't 3574 02:34:46,479 --> 02:34:48,399 have 3575 02:34:48,399 --> 02:34:50,870 >> Thank you, Miss White. Council, do you 3576 02:34:50,870 --> 02:34:50,880 » Thank you, Miss White. Council, do you 3577 02:34:50,880 --> 02:34:54,319 have any questions for Miss White? Mayor 3578 02:34:54,319 --> 02:34:57,520 Pro Tim Smith. 3579 02:34:57,520 --> 02:35:01,030 >> Thank you, Miss White. Um, you talked 3580 02:35:01,030 --> 02:35:01,040 » Thank you, Miss White. Um, you talked 3581 02:35:01,040 --> 02:35:04,240 about the illegal vendors. 3582 02:35:04,240 --> 02:35:06,479 Would those be those people who bring 3583 02:35:06,479 --> 02:35:08,640 their barbecue pits to the different 3584 02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:11,120 properties and set up on the weekends? 3585 02:35:11,120 --> 02:35:13,510 >> Yes, those will be our vendors. Um, the 3586 02:35:13,510 --> 02:35:13,520 » Yes, those will be our vendors. Um, the 3587 02:35:13,520 --> 02:35:15,280 car wash people that decide to just 3588 02:35:15,280 --> 02:35:17,920 choose the parking lot, water, the 3589 02:35:17,920 --> 02:35:19,840 people who sell the food and all that. 3590 02:35:19,840 --> 02:35:22,710 >> The car wash is in a parking lot. Okay. 3591 02:35:22,710 --> 02:35:22,720 » The car wash is in a parking lot. Okay. 3592 02:35:22,720 --> 02:35:26,080 So what I heard was 3593 02:35:26,080 --> 02:35:28,960 code enforcement cannot h make those 3594 02:35:28,960 --> 02:35:31,040 people move. It has to be the property 3595 02:35:31,040 --> 02:35:31,680 owner. 3596 02:35:31,680 --> 02:35:32,550 >> That is correct. 3597 02:35:32,550 --> 02:35:32,560 » That is correct. 3598 02:35:32,560 --> 02:35:32,870 >> Okay. 3599 02:35:32,870 --> 02:35:32,880 » Okay. 3600 02:35:32,880 --> 02:35:34,950 >> We try to persuade them when they are 3601 02:35:34,950 --> 02:35:34,960 » We try to persuade them when they are 3602 02:35:34,960 --> 02:35:37,840 willing to hear from us. Um we have had 3603 02:35:37,840 --> 02:35:40,399 some incidents in in the past. Um we 3604 02:35:40,399 --> 02:35:44,880 haven't had any recently. Um but um that 3605 02:35:44,880 --> 02:35:47,200 they they they kind of know some of them 3606 02:35:47,200 --> 02:35:49,280 know that you can't tell them anything. 3607 02:35:49,280 --> 02:35:51,359 So they they they'll try to intimidate 3608 02:35:51,359 --> 02:35:53,280 our officers and that kind of thing. So 3609 02:35:53,280 --> 02:35:54,720 a lot of times we are just taking 3610 02:35:54,720 --> 02:35:56,720 photographs of what's going on on the 3611 02:35:56,720 --> 02:35:58,560 property and just kind of holding that 3612 02:35:58,560 --> 02:36:02,560 property owner to barricading the area, 3613 02:36:02,560 --> 02:36:04,399 fencing the area. Anything that we can 3614 02:36:04,399 --> 02:36:07,120 get them to do temporarily until they do 3615 02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:08,479 something additional with that 3616 02:36:08,479 --> 02:36:10,319 particular property. 3617 02:36:10,319 --> 02:36:13,349 >> I think there is and I see Major Baron 3618 02:36:13,349 --> 02:36:13,359 » I think there is and I see Major Baron 3619 02:36:13,359 --> 02:36:15,840 in the back of the room. Um, she and I 3620 02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:19,200 discussed a program that Stone Crest 3621 02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:22,560 could opt into. Um, I think it happens 3622 02:36:22,560 --> 02:36:24,399 in the cab 3623 02:36:24,399 --> 02:36:27,920 county now where the owners can sign 3624 02:36:27,920 --> 02:36:30,080 something saying that, you know, if 3625 02:36:30,080 --> 02:36:31,840 somebody's on their pro property 3626 02:36:31,840 --> 02:36:34,479 illegally that the cab can take action. 3627 02:36:34,479 --> 02:36:37,120 But I think because we're our own 3628 02:36:37,120 --> 02:36:39,520 municipality, we needed to have 3629 02:36:39,520 --> 02:36:43,520 something to issue to the the businesses 3630 02:36:43,520 --> 02:36:46,319 in the city of Stone Crest. Have we 3631 02:36:46,319 --> 02:36:47,520 looked into 3632 02:36:47,520 --> 02:36:49,349 >> Yes, we we connect them with with the 3633 02:36:49,349 --> 02:36:49,359 » Yes, we we connect them with with the 3634 02:36:49,359 --> 02:36:52,000 Decap Police Department. Um we try to 3635 02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:53,200 make those connections all the time. 3636 02:36:53,200 --> 02:36:54,399 That's how like I said with the Waffle 3637 02:36:54,399 --> 02:36:57,359 House was my example. Um just bringing 3638 02:36:57,359 --> 02:37:00,399 that owner to the cab and just to gap 3639 02:37:00,399 --> 02:37:02,080 police department and saying, "Hey, 3640 02:37:02,080 --> 02:37:04,000 they're having this issue." You know, 3641 02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:05,920 because it's it's sometime sometimes 3642 02:37:05,920 --> 02:37:08,319 it's a twostep process because if they 3643 02:37:08,319 --> 02:37:09,840 just bending on the property, that's one 3644 02:37:09,840 --> 02:37:11,600 thing. They're vending and then they 3645 02:37:11,600 --> 02:37:14,000 brought the trash with them. 3646 02:37:14,000 --> 02:37:15,429 >> That's two different things. So now we 3647 02:37:15,429 --> 02:37:15,439 » That's two different things. So now we 3648 02:37:15,439 --> 02:37:17,120 have to first get the person to see if 3649 02:37:17,120 --> 02:37:18,640 they're going to remove their trash with 3650 02:37:18,640 --> 02:37:21,520 them and then also the the next step of 3651 02:37:21,520 --> 02:37:23,439 just making sure everything is taken 3652 02:37:23,439 --> 02:37:27,040 care of. Um that one was um an unhoused 3653 02:37:27,040 --> 02:37:29,680 person. So that one was we couldn't just 3654 02:37:29,680 --> 02:37:31,040 call it trash and debris because that 3655 02:37:31,040 --> 02:37:33,920 was somebody's belonging but we knew 3656 02:37:33,920 --> 02:37:36,080 that it was going to take you know some 3657 02:37:36,080 --> 02:37:40,319 time but the I spoke with the 3658 02:37:40,319 --> 02:37:43,520 facilities people for the company and 3659 02:37:43,520 --> 02:37:45,280 connected them with major barren and 3660 02:37:45,280 --> 02:37:47,120 matter of fact major and major barren 3661 02:37:47,120 --> 02:37:49,120 had talked about you know what can be 3662 02:37:49,120 --> 02:37:51,439 done and is it okay that that that we're 3663 02:37:51,439 --> 02:37:53,439 sending them to you all and and then we 3664 02:37:53,439 --> 02:37:55,200 made that connection that that was fine 3665 02:37:55,200 --> 02:37:57,600 and if anything was immediate that we we 3666 02:37:57,600 --> 02:37:59,200 could work out some things to get that 3667 02:37:59,200 --> 02:38:02,319 done. So, we work with um PJ Baron and 3668 02:38:02,319 --> 02:38:03,840 Lieutenant Morris who comes to our 3669 02:38:03,840 --> 02:38:06,080 building a lot who is our liaison 3670 02:38:06,080 --> 02:38:08,000 through the cab that we send a lot of 3671 02:38:08,000 --> 02:38:10,560 our uh requests through when we need 3672 02:38:10,560 --> 02:38:12,319 assistance with certain things. So, 3673 02:38:12,319 --> 02:38:14,240 that's what we've been utilizing to get 3674 02:38:14,240 --> 02:38:16,640 that. Um so, they do have something that 3675 02:38:16,640 --> 02:38:18,560 they use, but um it's just getting the 3676 02:38:18,560 --> 02:38:22,560 property owner to to um to respond and 3677 02:38:22,560 --> 02:38:24,319 to get that done because a lot of things 3678 02:38:24,319 --> 02:38:27,040 we're having to do with mail is not to 3679 02:38:27,040 --> 02:38:28,720 talk to because especially if it's at 3680 02:38:28,720 --> 02:38:31,200 vacant land or like the properties from 3681 02:38:31,200 --> 02:38:34,479 G dot that you know so it's it's just 3682 02:38:34,479 --> 02:38:36,000 trying to find out somebody who's going 3683 02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:38,240 to give you that answer or respond and 3684 02:38:38,240 --> 02:38:40,240 and be willing to do the work. 3685 02:38:40,240 --> 02:38:41,990 >> Okay. I was just wondering if that 3686 02:38:41,990 --> 02:38:42,000 » Okay. I was just wondering if that 3687 02:38:42,000 --> 02:38:43,840 program because it allows the property 3688 02:38:43,840 --> 02:38:46,960 owner sign off and say okay the cab 3689 02:38:46,960 --> 02:38:49,439 county if you see something then you can 3690 02:38:49,439 --> 02:38:51,840 act up on it. So I was wondering if that 3691 02:38:51,840 --> 02:38:57,200 was um something that we could um 3692 02:38:57,200 --> 02:38:59,520 utilize for these type situations. 3693 02:38:59,520 --> 02:39:01,990 >> Definitely we definitely try to open all 3694 02:39:01,990 --> 02:39:02,000 » Definitely we definitely try to open all 3695 02:39:02,000 --> 02:39:04,160 avenues that we can. 3696 02:39:04,160 --> 02:39:09,190 >> Okay. And my other question 3697 02:39:09,200 --> 02:39:12,080 is the lean process because that was one 3698 02:39:12,080 --> 02:39:14,319 of the things I thought about like if we 3699 02:39:14,319 --> 02:39:16,000 we continue having these issues with 3700 02:39:16,000 --> 02:39:19,920 these property owners um then what's the 3701 02:39:19,920 --> 02:39:22,080 process? What do we have to do in order 3702 02:39:22,080 --> 02:39:26,399 to opt into some type of lean process? 3703 02:39:26,399 --> 02:39:29,040 even if we have to go and you know cut 3704 02:39:29,040 --> 02:39:31,200 grass at a property, we should be able 3705 02:39:31,200 --> 02:39:32,800 to 3706 02:39:32,800 --> 02:39:35,680 um put that cost on that property owner 3707 02:39:35,680 --> 02:39:37,840 who has not responded to the numerous 3708 02:39:37,840 --> 02:39:40,399 citations that have been given to them. 3709 02:39:40,399 --> 02:39:42,880 So, do we have we started looking into 3710 02:39:42,880 --> 02:39:45,840 the the lean process 3711 02:39:45,840 --> 02:39:47,840 and what what it would take for us to be 3712 02:39:47,840 --> 02:39:52,240 able to do that? Um we have um had a lot 3713 02:39:52,240 --> 02:39:55,200 of conversations but not much movement 3714 02:39:55,200 --> 02:39:57,600 um because um we've we've had them in 3715 02:39:57,600 --> 02:39:59,120 our other jurisdiction. So, we brought 3716 02:39:59,120 --> 02:40:00,720 that information to just get those 3717 02:40:00,720 --> 02:40:03,120 orders to say that a lean is on this 3718 02:40:03,120 --> 02:40:06,560 property. Um, because that's one of the 3719 02:40:06,560 --> 02:40:08,399 main issues that the constituents have, 3720 02:40:08,399 --> 02:40:10,160 especially when those properties where 3721 02:40:10,160 --> 02:40:13,280 they move out and the owner don't can't 3722 02:40:13,280 --> 02:40:14,960 touch the property for a certain time. 3723 02:40:14,960 --> 02:40:17,520 But, um, 3724 02:40:17,520 --> 02:40:19,280 most of the time it's it's ones like 3725 02:40:19,280 --> 02:40:20,960 that that we really want to be able to 3726 02:40:20,960 --> 02:40:24,720 just go cut that grass or especially um 3727 02:40:24,720 --> 02:40:27,120 emergency borders. Um, that's another 3728 02:40:27,120 --> 02:40:29,600 one of the things. um just getting with 3729 02:40:29,600 --> 02:40:32,880 having a stronger um connection with the 3730 02:40:32,880 --> 02:40:34,640 fire department so we know when those 3731 02:40:34,640 --> 02:40:36,960 where those fires happen. Um a lot of 3732 02:40:36,960 --> 02:40:38,720 times we're on the back end when we find 3733 02:40:38,720 --> 02:40:40,880 out about uh a building that has caught 3734 02:40:40,880 --> 02:40:44,479 fire and um we do not have a we have a 3735 02:40:44,479 --> 02:40:47,840 code that allows us to uh well the 3736 02:40:47,840 --> 02:40:49,680 building department to um do an 3737 02:40:49,680 --> 02:40:52,800 emergency boarding. Um I just believe we 3738 02:40:52,800 --> 02:40:54,399 probably just have to have funds and be 3739 02:40:54,399 --> 02:40:56,319 able to allocate to that. But we do have 3740 02:40:56,319 --> 02:40:59,280 a process there. That's within our um 3741 02:40:59,280 --> 02:41:02,160 unfit abatement building so that we have 3742 02:41:02,160 --> 02:41:03,840 a where where they can do emergency 3743 02:41:03,840 --> 02:41:06,080 boarding. It's just a matter of us 3744 02:41:06,080 --> 02:41:08,399 having what we need to be able to do. So 3745 02:41:08,399 --> 02:41:09,840 um and they probably have to go through 3746 02:41:09,840 --> 02:41:11,200 some type of bidding process. So we're 3747 02:41:11,200 --> 02:41:12,560 just getting that with the right 3748 02:41:12,560 --> 02:41:14,160 departments and getting that connected. 3749 02:41:14,160 --> 02:41:16,000 I think we can make that happen. 3750 02:41:16,000 --> 02:41:19,990 >> Okay. And um Mayor Pro Tim 3751 02:41:19,990 --> 02:41:20,000 » Okay. And um Mayor Pro Tim 3752 02:41:20,000 --> 02:41:22,000 um Attorney Thompson had her hand up. 3753 02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:23,760 She wanted to comment on the lean 3754 02:41:23,760 --> 02:41:25,680 process. 3755 02:41:25,680 --> 02:41:27,520 Thank you. Um, Madame Mayor Pro Tim, I 3756 02:41:27,520 --> 02:41:29,680 was just going to state that we did 3757 02:41:29,680 --> 02:41:33,359 adopt some ordinances a year, maybe two 3758 02:41:33,359 --> 02:41:36,560 or three years back that addresses 3759 02:41:36,560 --> 02:41:40,399 um, how the city can either, you know, 3760 02:41:40,399 --> 02:41:43,120 go on to properties and like you said, 3761 02:41:43,120 --> 02:41:45,840 um, Council Member Smith, cut grass or 3762 02:41:45,840 --> 02:41:48,800 um, take action if the property owner 3763 02:41:48,800 --> 02:41:51,600 um, is not responding to, 3764 02:41:51,600 --> 02:41:55,120 um, the city's ask request to tend tend 3765 02:41:55,120 --> 02:41:56,560 to their property. And then of course 3766 02:41:56,560 --> 02:42:00,640 that lean would be attached to um that 3767 02:42:00,640 --> 02:42:03,280 parcel. So we do have um some ordinances 3768 02:42:03,280 --> 02:42:06,000 in place so I can share those with you u 3769 02:42:06,000 --> 02:42:08,880 so you can review them and you know and 3770 02:42:08,880 --> 02:42:14,230 see how the process kind of works. 3771 02:42:14,240 --> 02:42:17,510 » Thank you 3772 02:42:17,520 --> 02:42:19,120 mayor prom. 3773 02:42:19,120 --> 02:42:21,590 >> Thank you counciloman Smith. Council any 3774 02:42:21,590 --> 02:42:21,600 » Thank you counciloman Smith. Council any 3775 02:42:21,600 --> 02:42:23,760 other questions? Mayor Pro Tim, 3776 02:42:23,760 --> 02:42:26,070 >> Councilwoman Washington, 3777 02:42:26,070 --> 02:42:26,080 » Councilwoman Washington, 3778 02:42:26,080 --> 02:42:28,630 >> um, how you doing? [clears throat] 3779 02:42:28,630 --> 02:42:28,640 » um, how you doing? [clears throat] 3780 02:42:28,640 --> 02:42:30,319 I want to ask a question. I was 3781 02:42:30,319 --> 02:42:32,560 addressed with a question today. What do 3782 02:42:32,560 --> 02:42:35,439 you do like I heard what you were saying 3783 02:42:35,439 --> 02:42:36,960 about 3784 02:42:36,960 --> 02:42:41,760 um when there's uh trucks on private 3785 02:42:41,760 --> 02:42:44,160 property, uh, the limited things that 3786 02:42:44,160 --> 02:42:46,560 you can do when it's happened like that. 3787 02:42:46,560 --> 02:42:49,520 But today, I went to Walmart and the 3788 02:42:49,520 --> 02:42:51,840 manager of Walmart was really concerned. 3789 02:42:51,840 --> 02:42:53,920 He said that every and and maybe even 3790 02:42:53,920 --> 02:42:56,560 Major Baron can help me with this also 3791 02:42:56,560 --> 02:42:58,560 is that he was concerned with the fact 3792 02:42:58,560 --> 02:43:00,560 that every time he pulled up every 3793 02:43:00,560 --> 02:43:04,240 morning there's like 10 or 15 trucks 3794 02:43:04,240 --> 02:43:06,720 just in his parking lot. And that's like 3795 02:43:06,720 --> 02:43:09,520 way past what he can do himself. So he 3796 02:43:09,520 --> 02:43:11,840 wanted to know what it is that he has to 3797 02:43:11,840 --> 02:43:14,080 do to keep these trucks from coming on 3798 02:43:14,080 --> 02:43:16,479 his private property and parking 3799 02:43:16,479 --> 02:43:18,640 overnight and then he comes and they're 3800 02:43:18,640 --> 02:43:22,160 all there. So, uh I don't know what to I 3801 02:43:22,160 --> 02:43:24,800 told him I would inquire on whether 3802 02:43:24,800 --> 02:43:27,280 maybe there is something that code 3803 02:43:27,280 --> 02:43:29,760 enforcement or even uh the cab police 3804 02:43:29,760 --> 02:43:32,240 can help him with this type of situation 3805 02:43:32,240 --> 02:43:34,960 is kind of big for him. He he's his 3806 02:43:34,960 --> 02:43:36,640 hands are tied with how much he can do 3807 02:43:36,640 --> 02:43:38,960 to make sure that because he has such a 3808 02:43:38,960 --> 02:43:41,280 big lot and such all of this space 3809 02:43:41,280 --> 02:43:43,600 they're just taking advantage. So, uh 3810 02:43:43,600 --> 02:43:46,319 what could he do? Um, that's one of the 3811 02:43:46,319 --> 02:43:48,160 one of the things that we are working on 3812 02:43:48,160 --> 02:43:50,000 to find out some different solutions for 3813 02:43:50,000 --> 02:43:53,840 that. Um, I even had uh a property owner 3814 02:43:53,840 --> 02:43:56,880 who just has a a vacant lot and it's in 3815 02:43:56,880 --> 02:43:59,359 a residential area and there would be 3816 02:43:59,359 --> 02:44:02,240 trucks parked and I I issued I gave him 3817 02:44:02,240 --> 02:44:03,840 a notice so he could, you know, know 3818 02:44:03,840 --> 02:44:06,080 that they were parking on his property. 3819 02:44:06,080 --> 02:44:10,880 Um, his the issue he has because he is a 3820 02:44:10,880 --> 02:44:12,560 um because it's not like a commercial 3821 02:44:12,560 --> 02:44:15,040 lot or something like that. I think they 3822 02:44:15,040 --> 02:44:16,960 it seems like the tow companies do 3823 02:44:16,960 --> 02:44:18,240 different agreements with different 3824 02:44:18,240 --> 02:44:22,800 people. So, um the the gentleman I 3825 02:44:22,800 --> 02:44:25,920 talked to his property is on I think 3826 02:44:25,920 --> 02:44:28,399 it's Brownsville Mill and Klondike and 3827 02:44:28,399 --> 02:44:30,240 he just has a flat lot that used to have 3828 02:44:30,240 --> 02:44:33,760 a house on it and he stated that when he 3829 02:44:33,760 --> 02:44:35,760 contacted the tow company, they told him 3830 02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:39,040 it had to be out there 24 to 48 hours. 3831 02:44:39,040 --> 02:44:41,200 That's two days that something's on his 3832 02:44:41,200 --> 02:44:44,640 property and he cannot get told. Um 3833 02:44:44,640 --> 02:44:46,720 because I think initially he just had to 3834 02:44:46,720 --> 02:44:49,760 put signage up. He put signage up and it 3835 02:44:49,760 --> 02:44:54,399 still um became an issue. I mean he it 3836 02:44:54,399 --> 02:44:56,960 took him by the time that a tow truck 3837 02:44:56,960 --> 02:44:59,600 would have come out the truck's gone. 3838 02:44:59,600 --> 02:44:59,920 Right. 3839 02:44:59,920 --> 02:45:02,710 >> Um we've had officers, you know, try to 3840 02:45:02,710 --> 02:45:02,720 » Um we've had officers, you know, try to 3841 02:45:02,720 --> 02:45:06,560 talk to some of the the um truck drivers 3842 02:45:06,560 --> 02:45:09,520 as we see them. Um, 3843 02:45:09,520 --> 02:45:12,560 and it's we just get the excuses of, oh, 3844 02:45:12,560 --> 02:45:14,160 I'm just going home for a second. But 3845 02:45:14,160 --> 02:45:15,520 this, you know, this is not your 3846 02:45:15,520 --> 02:45:17,840 property. You can't even be parked here. 3847 02:45:17,840 --> 02:45:19,439 And 3848 02:45:19,439 --> 02:45:21,760 they just take the risk of, well, we'll 3849 02:45:21,760 --> 02:45:24,080 see what happens because a lot of them 3850 02:45:24,080 --> 02:45:26,800 know that it's going to take a while for 3851 02:45:26,800 --> 02:45:30,000 a a troll truck for that size vehicle to 3852 02:45:30,000 --> 02:45:32,000 come and remove them. So, I think a lot 3853 02:45:32,000 --> 02:45:33,200 of them have found these little 3854 02:45:33,200 --> 02:45:37,439 loopholes to to get around that. And 3855 02:45:37,439 --> 02:45:41,359 like I said, the we've had um another uh 3856 02:45:41,359 --> 02:45:44,319 I think the one is on um the food depot 3857 02:45:44,319 --> 02:45:47,120 plaza. They're having that same issue. 3858 02:45:47,120 --> 02:45:50,000 And um we have been working with that 3859 02:45:50,000 --> 02:45:52,800 property um manager because he got the 3860 02:45:52,800 --> 02:45:55,040 vendors under control, but now we have 3861 02:45:55,040 --> 02:45:56,720 the issue of the parking the commercial 3862 02:45:56,720 --> 02:45:58,800 vehicles along the back of his property 3863 02:45:58,800 --> 02:46:02,319 along the side. And um that's the that's 3864 02:46:02,319 --> 02:46:04,319 the biggest thing of the time frame that 3865 02:46:04,319 --> 02:46:07,040 the tow truck companies are offering. 3866 02:46:07,040 --> 02:46:09,200 But see Walmart had one that they said 3867 02:46:09,200 --> 02:46:11,200 they could do. I think one Walmart 3868 02:46:11,200 --> 02:46:13,680 stated that they could have them gone in 3869 02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:16,160 a few hours. So it's like conflict of 3870 02:46:16,160 --> 02:46:17,680 information. So I'm I'm going to have to 3871 02:46:17,680 --> 02:46:19,680 probably try to reach out to some of the 3872 02:46:19,680 --> 02:46:21,920 tow truck companies, but just as you 3873 02:46:21,920 --> 02:46:23,840 know just to see what their actual 3874 02:46:23,840 --> 02:46:25,279 procedures are if they're getting just 3875 02:46:25,279 --> 02:46:27,040 different answers because talking to 3876 02:46:27,040 --> 02:46:28,960 different people or what have you. But 3877 02:46:28,960 --> 02:46:30,960 that is one of the the issues that has 3878 02:46:30,960 --> 02:46:33,279 come up that um just recently about 3879 02:46:33,279 --> 02:46:35,760 those trucks. So we we're working with 3880 02:46:35,760 --> 02:46:38,160 them as much as we can. I'm not sure 3881 02:46:38,160 --> 02:46:41,359 what um if there's anything Major Baron 3882 02:46:41,359 --> 02:46:43,439 knows that that that can happen for for 3883 02:46:43,439 --> 02:46:46,720 those particular issues, but um we we 3884 02:46:46,720 --> 02:46:48,240 definitely 3885 02:46:48,240 --> 02:46:49,830 >> sound like it's hard to find something 3886 02:46:49,830 --> 02:46:49,840 » sound like it's hard to find something 3887 02:46:49,840 --> 02:46:52,160 to assist because you know even though 3888 02:46:52,160 --> 02:46:54,479 you know we want to make the property 3889 02:46:54,479 --> 02:46:57,520 owners fully accountable of everything, 3890 02:46:57,520 --> 02:46:59,200 but we do have to be somewhat 3891 02:46:59,200 --> 02:47:01,279 understanding if if they're not able to 3892 02:47:01,279 --> 02:47:04,000 do what we're asking. um we have to have 3893 02:47:04,000 --> 02:47:06,399 some kind of consideration and um for 3894 02:47:06,399 --> 02:47:08,399 those things, but some of the things we 3895 02:47:08,399 --> 02:47:10,720 we we have to do, we have to do. But 3896 02:47:10,720 --> 02:47:12,560 some of the the issues that they come up 3897 02:47:12,560 --> 02:47:15,040 with is it's it's it's putting them in a 3898 02:47:15,040 --> 02:47:23,990 hard place. So yeah, 3899 02:47:24,000 --> 02:47:26,479 it being on private property is a big 3900 02:47:26,479 --> 02:47:29,680 challenge because it's private property. 3901 02:47:29,680 --> 02:47:32,720 However, one of the things that um we 3902 02:47:32,720 --> 02:47:35,040 have found is quite helpful to us when 3903 02:47:35,040 --> 02:47:38,080 we're dealing with um um heavy trucks on 3904 02:47:38,080 --> 02:47:39,760 private property is a lot of those 3905 02:47:39,760 --> 02:47:42,560 trucks are not owned by the drivers. So, 3906 02:47:42,560 --> 02:47:45,439 what we do in those instances, we as the 3907 02:47:45,439 --> 02:47:48,160 police to help the business like this 3908 02:47:48,160 --> 02:47:49,600 with Walmart because you don't want to 3909 02:47:49,600 --> 02:47:51,680 find Walmart because they're coming 3910 02:47:51,680 --> 02:47:54,160 overnight. So, what we do is get in 3911 02:47:54,160 --> 02:47:56,800 contact with the company. All those 3912 02:47:56,800 --> 02:47:59,760 drivers have overnight dispatchers for 3913 02:47:59,760 --> 02:48:01,600 the company. We get in contact with the 3914 02:48:01,600 --> 02:48:03,439 company and we tell them that the car 3915 02:48:03,439 --> 02:48:05,840 the um truck is going to be told if it's 3916 02:48:05,840 --> 02:48:08,240 not removed within and we try and give 3917 02:48:08,240 --> 02:48:10,720 people time within an hour or so. And 3918 02:48:10,720 --> 02:48:12,800 that typically works because they know 3919 02:48:12,800 --> 02:48:15,680 it's going to cost them a lot of money 3920 02:48:15,680 --> 02:48:19,760 to have a um a truck that size towed. 3921 02:48:19,760 --> 02:48:24,399 Now also you know there is a law that's 3922 02:48:24,399 --> 02:48:27,120 called criminal trespass. If you ask 3923 02:48:27,120 --> 02:48:30,000 someone to leave the property and they 3924 02:48:30,000 --> 02:48:31,600 refuse to leave or they return back 3925 02:48:31,600 --> 02:48:34,000 after leaving. So other action can be 3926 02:48:34,000 --> 02:48:37,439 taken when you do have someone that is 3927 02:48:37,439 --> 02:48:40,880 not wanting to u follow the requests or 3928 02:48:40,880 --> 02:48:44,080 the orders of the property owners. But 3929 02:48:44,080 --> 02:48:46,160 um one of the things that we do find 3930 02:48:46,160 --> 02:48:47,760 also with businesses is they're not 3931 02:48:47,760 --> 02:48:50,560 consistent. And you do have sometimes 3932 02:48:50,560 --> 02:48:53,600 management is saying yes. Oh, you just 3933 02:48:53,600 --> 02:48:56,000 want to park here for an hour saying 3934 02:48:56,000 --> 02:48:59,279 yes. And then now and that is one of the 3935 02:48:59,279 --> 02:49:01,359 reasons why we stopped having to take 3936 02:49:01,359 --> 02:49:05,439 action without property management or a 3937 02:49:05,439 --> 02:49:08,080 owner or a representative thereof 3938 02:49:08,080 --> 02:49:10,080 because we have found in the past where 3939 02:49:10,080 --> 02:49:11,680 we have been taking action against 3940 02:49:11,680 --> 02:49:14,880 people and kind of find out they were 3941 02:49:14,880 --> 02:49:16,800 telling the truth. I was allowed to be 3942 02:49:16,800 --> 02:49:18,960 here. The manager gave me permission. So 3943 02:49:18,960 --> 02:49:21,520 that's one of the things that um we push 3944 02:49:21,520 --> 02:49:26,080 consistency but making sure that um you 3945 02:49:26,080 --> 02:49:28,160 know we do have that buy in from the 3946 02:49:28,160 --> 02:49:29,840 companies that we are able to come out 3947 02:49:29,840 --> 02:49:32,800 and make those calls and give those 3948 02:49:32,800 --> 02:49:35,359 warnings and then take action. And 3949 02:49:35,359 --> 02:49:37,920 you're going to have property management 3950 02:49:37,920 --> 02:49:40,640 or owners or representative to be there 3951 02:49:40,640 --> 02:49:42,560 with you to take that action because a 3952 02:49:42,560 --> 02:49:44,800 lot of times we are left by ourselves 3953 02:49:44,800 --> 02:49:48,790 trying to fight their battle. 3954 02:49:48,800 --> 02:49:54,870 Thank you, 3955 02:49:54,880 --> 02:49:56,080 » Mayor Pimp. 3956 02:49:56,080 --> 02:49:58,710 >> Councilman Turner, 3957 02:49:58,710 --> 02:49:58,720 » Councilman Turner, 3958 02:49:58,720 --> 02:50:01,670 >> Miss White, I know one in another area, 3959 02:50:01,670 --> 02:50:01,680 » Miss White, I know one in another area, 3960 02:50:01,680 --> 02:50:04,160 probably legal, and that is that we have 3961 02:50:04,160 --> 02:50:06,160 some illegal dumping going on in the 3962 02:50:06,160 --> 02:50:09,439 city, quite a bit of it. And uh the 3963 02:50:09,439 --> 02:50:12,880 question is, can we use cameras to 3964 02:50:12,880 --> 02:50:15,680 identify some of the culprits? Is that 3965 02:50:15,680 --> 02:50:18,800 legal now or did the gap county allow 3966 02:50:18,800 --> 02:50:21,359 such to happen? 3967 02:50:21,359 --> 02:50:23,030 >> Without looking at the county 3968 02:50:23,030 --> 02:50:23,040 » Without looking at the county 3969 02:50:23,040 --> 02:50:24,640 ordinances, I couldn't tell you. I'd be 3970 02:50:24,640 --> 02:50:26,240 speculating, but I can definitely look 3971 02:50:26,240 --> 02:50:28,160 into that for you, Councilman. 3972 02:50:28,160 --> 02:50:30,150 >> Okay. Because I can give you about five 3973 02:50:30,150 --> 02:50:30,160 » Okay. Because I can give you about five 3974 02:50:30,160 --> 02:50:34,080 locations at the regular dump sites and 3975 02:50:34,080 --> 02:50:35,760 it seemed as if we can do nothing about 3976 02:50:35,760 --> 02:50:38,319 it. It's been that way for before I was 3977 02:50:38,319 --> 02:50:41,920 on council and uh it continues to go on 3978 02:50:41,920 --> 02:50:44,399 and on and on and we need to identify 3979 02:50:44,399 --> 02:50:47,279 the culprits. Uh the other area you 3980 02:50:47,279 --> 02:50:52,000 mentioned there 400 cases you uh city's 3981 02:50:52,000 --> 02:50:54,240 working there and all that. Did you say 3982 02:50:54,240 --> 02:50:56,399 75 cases or 75%? 3983 02:50:56,399 --> 02:50:57,429 >> 75% 3984 02:50:57,429 --> 02:50:57,439 » 75% 3985 02:50:57,439 --> 02:51:00,710 >> 75% of them are repeat offenders. So 3986 02:51:00,710 --> 02:51:00,720 » 75% of them are repeat offenders. So 3987 02:51:00,720 --> 02:51:04,160 we're not getting our message across. 3988 02:51:04,160 --> 02:51:07,600 And where is the failure to communicate 3989 02:51:07,600 --> 02:51:10,880 here? Is that within our court system? 3990 02:51:10,880 --> 02:51:15,200 Um the fines are not stern enough. 3991 02:51:15,200 --> 02:51:17,590 >> They don't come to court. That's that's 3992 02:51:17,590 --> 02:51:17,600 » They don't come to court. That's that's 3993 02:51:17,600 --> 02:51:19,760 the the main issue. The ones that come 3994 02:51:19,760 --> 02:51:21,760 to court, we end up getting to find 3995 02:51:21,760 --> 02:51:25,279 them. Um 3996 02:51:25,279 --> 02:51:27,200 and and we even have probation. We have 3997 02:51:27,200 --> 02:51:29,200 people on probation and still not in 3998 02:51:29,200 --> 02:51:30,560 compliance. I mean, I was told 3999 02:51:30,560 --> 02:51:33,510 >> for years years on probation and still 4000 02:51:33,510 --> 02:51:33,520 » for years years on probation and still 4001 02:51:33,520 --> 02:51:35,040 not in compliance. 4002 02:51:35,040 --> 02:51:37,670 >> So that if I got a seat belt violation 4003 02:51:37,670 --> 02:51:37,680 » So that if I got a seat belt violation 4004 02:51:37,680 --> 02:51:40,160 and don't go to court, the seat belt's 4005 02:51:40,160 --> 02:51:42,720 no longer the issue. The failure to 4006 02:51:42,720 --> 02:51:43,600 appear 4007 02:51:43,600 --> 02:51:46,870 >> is the issue. So who takes care of the 4008 02:51:46,870 --> 02:51:46,880 » is the issue. So who takes care of the 4009 02:51:46,880 --> 02:51:51,030 failure to appear? 4010 02:51:51,040 --> 02:51:52,960 » That would be the court system. I They 4011 02:51:52,960 --> 02:51:55,120 would have to be because they're not 4012 02:51:55,120 --> 02:51:56,319 appearing to their court. 4013 02:51:56,319 --> 02:51:58,630 >> So we're talking to the wrong entity 4014 02:51:58,630 --> 02:51:58,640 » So we're talking to the wrong entity 4015 02:51:58,640 --> 02:52:01,439 here. Yeah, once we get them to court, 4016 02:52:01,439 --> 02:52:03,760 that's that's like, hey, we've done 4017 02:52:03,760 --> 02:52:05,600 everything that we can do to comply, get 4018 02:52:05,600 --> 02:52:07,279 these people to comply. Now, we're 4019 02:52:07,279 --> 02:52:09,680 getting the enforcement part of the our 4020 02:52:09,680 --> 02:52:12,399 compliance. Um, and that part isn't 4021 02:52:12,399 --> 02:52:13,040 happening. 4022 02:52:13,040 --> 02:52:14,950 >> I know a couple of chop shops that's 4023 02:52:14,950 --> 02:52:14,960 » I know a couple of chop shops that's 4024 02:52:14,960 --> 02:52:17,920 been operating in the city for the last 4025 02:52:17,920 --> 02:52:19,030 >> agreed seven years. 4026 02:52:19,030 --> 02:52:19,040 » agreed seven years. 4027 02:52:19,040 --> 02:52:20,550 >> I know exactly which one you're talking 4028 02:52:20,550 --> 02:52:20,560 » I know exactly which one you're talking 4029 02:52:20,560 --> 02:52:21,359 about, too. 4030 02:52:21,359 --> 02:52:23,190 >> And it appears as if we can do nothing 4031 02:52:23,190 --> 02:52:23,200 » And it appears as if we can do nothing 4032 02:52:23,200 --> 02:52:24,479 about it. 4033 02:52:24,479 --> 02:52:27,110 >> Yeah, we did get one that did appear. um 4034 02:52:27,110 --> 02:52:27,120 » Yeah, we did get one that did appear. um 4035 02:52:27,120 --> 02:52:29,359 that is the chop shop and has caused us 4036 02:52:29,359 --> 02:52:32,640 a lot of issues and I think in our last 4037 02:52:32,640 --> 02:52:34,720 um I think it was like a couple of weeks 4038 02:52:34,720 --> 02:52:37,840 ago the judge said hey if the plea does 4039 02:52:37,840 --> 02:52:40,800 not have jail time uh don't bring it 4040 02:52:40,800 --> 02:52:43,600 back to me. So that was one of the ones 4041 02:52:43,600 --> 02:52:45,840 that we got. So he he pled not guilty so 4042 02:52:45,840 --> 02:52:47,840 we have to go to trial for that one. Um 4043 02:52:47,840 --> 02:52:49,279 and he wanted to consult getting a 4044 02:52:49,279 --> 02:52:51,200 lawyer because he was going to have to 4045 02:52:51,200 --> 02:52:55,279 agree to jail time. Um, so we we're for 4046 02:52:55,279 --> 02:52:58,800 the ones that appear we can we can 4047 02:52:58,800 --> 02:53:02,399 we get some it still takes years. It 4048 02:53:02,399 --> 02:53:05,760 it's not been a easy process at all. 4049 02:53:05,760 --> 02:53:07,680 Some of these properties I work for the 4050 02:53:07,680 --> 02:53:10,800 Cab County code enforcement 11 years ago 4051 02:53:10,800 --> 02:53:11,920 and these are some of the same 4052 02:53:11,920 --> 02:53:14,720 properties I dealt with hearing about in 4053 02:53:14,720 --> 02:53:17,279 in that code enforcement. So it is not 4054 02:53:17,279 --> 02:53:20,000 something that that's gone on that we we 4055 02:53:20,000 --> 02:53:21,439 hear about it. We know about it and 4056 02:53:21,439 --> 02:53:24,160 there has been nothing that makes people 4057 02:53:24,160 --> 02:53:25,920 want to 4058 02:53:25,920 --> 02:53:28,240 comply or appear in court. Appearing in 4059 02:53:28,240 --> 02:53:30,479 court is 4060 02:53:30,479 --> 02:53:32,479 the amount of I I wanted to get a number 4061 02:53:32,479 --> 02:53:36,160 of failure to appears. Um but the 4062 02:53:36,160 --> 02:53:38,880 failure to appears are are like we may 4063 02:53:38,880 --> 02:53:41,840 have a hund and something docket and we 4064 02:53:41,840 --> 02:53:44,479 may have 20 30 people that appear 4065 02:53:44,479 --> 02:53:45,990 >> just ignoring no more. 4066 02:53:45,990 --> 02:53:46,000 » just ignoring no more. 4067 02:53:46,000 --> 02:53:48,070 >> Yeah. All together we have them that 4068 02:53:48,070 --> 02:53:48,080 » Yeah. All together we have them that 4069 02:53:48,080 --> 02:53:50,960 show up one time and don't come back. I 4070 02:53:50,960 --> 02:53:53,680 mean, we have a range of different 4071 02:53:53,680 --> 02:53:56,160 failure to appears that that just really 4072 02:53:56,160 --> 02:53:59,040 is is it takes a lot of our time to have 4073 02:53:59,040 --> 02:54:00,560 to go see these failure to appear and we 4074 02:54:00,560 --> 02:54:01,920 just have 4075 02:54:01,920 --> 02:54:04,309 >> if I fail to appear, I fear someone 4076 02:54:04,309 --> 02:54:04,319 » if I fail to appear, I fear someone 4077 02:54:04,319 --> 02:54:06,720 knocking on my door before long. Uh, how 4078 02:54:06,720 --> 02:54:09,920 do we get that fear in the 4079 02:54:09,920 --> 02:54:12,319 heart of these violators? 4080 02:54:12,319 --> 02:54:13,910 >> That's going to have to be through a c 4081 02:54:13,910 --> 02:54:13,920 » That's going to have to be through a c 4082 02:54:13,920 --> 02:54:18,319 process. I know we did a a um court a 4083 02:54:18,319 --> 02:54:20,800 court. Yeah, we had a No, we had an 4084 02:54:20,800 --> 02:54:22,399 analyst that go went over the court 4085 02:54:22,399 --> 02:54:24,640 procedures and our procedures to see if 4086 02:54:24,640 --> 02:54:27,200 we could bring them together, but um we 4087 02:54:27,200 --> 02:54:29,760 haven't I haven't seen those results as 4088 02:54:29,760 --> 02:54:32,640 what what should be implemented or what 4089 02:54:32,640 --> 02:54:36,560 else additionally we can do. But bench 4090 02:54:36,560 --> 02:54:40,000 warrant will be great and um or and and 4091 02:54:40,000 --> 02:54:41,920 even with the even with the fines if 4092 02:54:41,920 --> 02:54:43,920 they get on probation, one of the 4093 02:54:43,920 --> 02:54:46,240 conditions of probation should be 4094 02:54:46,240 --> 02:54:47,920 property must be in compliance so you 4095 02:54:47,920 --> 02:54:50,560 get off probation. anything that holds 4096 02:54:50,560 --> 02:54:52,560 them to it, we give them fines. Some of 4097 02:54:52,560 --> 02:54:55,600 them pay fines and come back when we 4098 02:54:55,600 --> 02:54:59,040 cite them again. So, it's a it's a and 4099 02:54:59,040 --> 02:55:00,560 they just some people I guess it feels 4100 02:55:00,560 --> 02:55:02,080 like it's a cost of doing business 4101 02:55:02,080 --> 02:55:03,120 paying their fines. 4102 02:55:03,120 --> 02:55:05,590 >> I know if I get a $50 fine once every 50 4103 02:55:05,590 --> 02:55:05,600 » I know if I get a $50 fine once every 50 4104 02:55:05,600 --> 02:55:06,640 months. Yeah. 4105 02:55:06,640 --> 02:55:09,030 >> But if I get a $100 fine per day until 4106 02:55:09,030 --> 02:55:09,040 » But if I get a $100 fine per day until 4107 02:55:09,040 --> 02:55:11,120 it's corrected, there's a different 4108 02:55:11,120 --> 02:55:12,960 matter. I know I can't dictate what the 4109 02:55:12,960 --> 02:55:14,479 fine shall be, but 4110 02:55:14,479 --> 02:55:19,269 >> at the same time, we can use um whatever 4111 02:55:19,269 --> 02:55:19,279 » at the same time, we can use um whatever 4112 02:55:19,279 --> 02:55:20,640 limits we have 4113 02:55:20,640 --> 02:55:22,950 >> and take it to the max 4114 02:55:22,950 --> 02:55:22,960 » and take it to the max 4115 02:55:22,960 --> 02:55:25,510 >> and do what is reasonable to force 4116 02:55:25,510 --> 02:55:25,520 » and do what is reasonable to force 4117 02:55:25,520 --> 02:55:26,960 compliance. 4118 02:55:26,960 --> 02:55:28,870 >> It's not about the money. 4119 02:55:28,870 --> 02:55:28,880 » It's not about the money. 4120 02:55:28,880 --> 02:55:29,910 >> It's about compliance. 4121 02:55:29,910 --> 02:55:29,920 » It's about compliance. 4122 02:55:29,920 --> 02:55:31,429 >> It's about compliance. 4123 02:55:31,429 --> 02:55:31,439 » It's about compliance. 4124 02:55:31,439 --> 02:55:32,950 >> And that's why we feel like we're 4125 02:55:32,950 --> 02:55:32,960 » And that's why we feel like we're 4126 02:55:32,960 --> 02:55:35,120 spinning because of the fact that we we 4127 02:55:35,120 --> 02:55:37,279 come to court and they don't appear. And 4128 02:55:37,279 --> 02:55:39,840 then if we get them to some of them that 4129 02:55:39,840 --> 02:55:42,080 get to court, um it's the ones that 4130 02:55:42,080 --> 02:55:43,600 don't that never appear and the ones 4131 02:55:43,600 --> 02:55:45,600 that come to court, pay their fines and 4132 02:55:45,600 --> 02:55:47,600 gladly come back to play it again. 4133 02:55:47,600 --> 02:55:49,030 >> Again, I mean, what element are we 4134 02:55:49,030 --> 02:55:49,040 » Again, I mean, what element are we 4135 02:55:49,040 --> 02:55:50,720 missing here? Are we missing the element 4136 02:55:50,720 --> 02:55:53,520 of not having 4137 02:55:53,520 --> 02:55:56,560 uh the necessary agreement with the cap 4138 02:55:56,560 --> 02:55:59,520 county to pick them up on what some 4139 02:55:59,520 --> 02:56:01,920 would consider minor charges, but for 4140 02:56:01,920 --> 02:56:03,359 us, this is major. 4141 02:56:03,359 --> 02:56:05,269 >> Yeah. A lot of a lot of the ones that we 4142 02:56:05,269 --> 02:56:05,279 » Yeah. A lot of a lot of the ones that we 4143 02:56:05,279 --> 02:56:07,359 have the problems with are major um and 4144 02:56:07,359 --> 02:56:09,200 they are repeat violators because like 4145 02:56:09,200 --> 02:56:11,439 we have some companies that have 4146 02:56:11,439 --> 02:56:13,760 properties and they may have we may have 4147 02:56:13,760 --> 02:56:15,600 four or five different properties under 4148 02:56:15,600 --> 02:56:18,319 that one owner and they are doing 4149 02:56:18,319 --> 02:56:20,240 nothing with any of the properties and 4150 02:56:20,240 --> 02:56:23,120 and they don't come to court at all. So 4151 02:56:23,120 --> 02:56:24,640 that would be a challenge as far as 4152 02:56:24,640 --> 02:56:26,399 finding who who do you arrest from the 4153 02:56:26,399 --> 02:56:28,640 corporation. 4154 02:56:28,640 --> 02:56:30,389 >> Okay. then we need to deal with this in 4155 02:56:30,389 --> 02:56:30,399 » Okay. then we need to deal with this in 4156 02:56:30,399 --> 02:56:32,800 another arena because we've been talking 4157 02:56:32,800 --> 02:56:35,200 about this since we've been a city and 4158 02:56:35,200 --> 02:56:38,160 really you catch the fish but there's 4159 02:56:38,160 --> 02:56:42,309 nobody to clean them. 4160 02:56:42,319 --> 02:56:44,880 This is this is ridiculous. 4161 02:56:44,880 --> 02:56:47,760 Uh, I'll mention a couple of not direct 4162 02:56:47,760 --> 02:56:50,720 cases, but trucks being parked on the 4163 02:56:50,720 --> 02:56:53,600 streets of the Cap County 4164 02:56:53,600 --> 02:56:56,160 and it appears as if they're not being 4165 02:56:56,160 --> 02:56:57,840 addressed because they repeat, repeat, 4166 02:56:57,840 --> 02:57:00,800 repeat, repeat. I get the same call week 4167 02:57:00,800 --> 02:57:03,920 after week, commercial truck parked on 4168 02:57:03,920 --> 02:57:05,920 the street, and I know that's the cap 4169 02:57:05,920 --> 02:57:09,439 county, not you. But we pass it on. So, 4170 02:57:09,439 --> 02:57:10,880 we'll have to deal with the Cab County 4171 02:57:10,880 --> 02:57:12,800 about 4172 02:57:12,800 --> 02:57:15,439 getting those trucks removed. 4173 02:57:15,439 --> 02:57:17,110 >> Correct. 4174 02:57:17,110 --> 02:57:17,120 » Correct. 4175 02:57:17,120 --> 02:57:19,510 >> Okay. And the other one would be the uh 4176 02:57:19,510 --> 02:57:19,520 » Okay. And the other one would be the uh 4177 02:57:19,520 --> 02:57:22,399 retention ponds. Um, how did that happen 4178 02:57:22,399 --> 02:57:24,800 that this is no longer uh the Cap 4179 02:57:24,800 --> 02:57:26,800 County? They gave that to us. We bought 4180 02:57:26,800 --> 02:57:28,640 it. Uh, 4181 02:57:28,640 --> 02:57:30,950 >> that's that's the part that's unclear. 4182 02:57:30,950 --> 02:57:30,960 » that's that's the part that's unclear. 4183 02:57:30,960 --> 02:57:34,640 Um, one of the ones I looked at um just 4184 02:57:34,640 --> 02:57:40,240 the maybe about a week ago 4185 02:57:40,240 --> 02:57:42,000 I don't I don't know. She said that 4186 02:57:42,000 --> 02:57:43,439 every they have been cutting it for 4187 02:57:43,439 --> 02:57:46,640 years and um I've tried to track down 4188 02:57:46,640 --> 02:57:48,880 everything that I can and it when I pull 4189 02:57:48,880 --> 02:57:51,680 up the map it shows is hers which even 4190 02:57:51,680 --> 02:57:53,439 when I she was explaining to me on the 4191 02:57:53,439 --> 02:57:55,760 phone I was like do you have a drain in 4192 02:57:55,760 --> 02:57:58,880 your backyard? And then she was like no. 4193 02:57:58,880 --> 02:58:00,960 I was like okay. So, I said, "I won't 4194 02:58:00,960 --> 02:58:02,399 come out. We'll come out there to see 4195 02:58:02,399 --> 02:58:04,399 it." We go out to see it and it's it's 4196 02:58:04,399 --> 02:58:07,120 it's fenced in. 4197 02:58:07,120 --> 02:58:08,790 >> Well, I guess we need our engineer here 4198 02:58:08,790 --> 02:58:08,800 » Well, I guess we need our engineer here 4199 02:58:08,800 --> 02:58:11,520 because when you build a subdivision, 4200 02:58:11,520 --> 02:58:13,600 there's a retention pond that goes with 4201 02:58:13,600 --> 02:58:15,600 the subdivision, I would think. 4202 02:58:15,600 --> 02:58:16,230 >> Right. 4203 02:58:16,230 --> 02:58:16,240 » Right. 4204 02:58:16,240 --> 02:58:18,469 >> And I would think that either the county 4205 02:58:18,469 --> 02:58:18,479 » And I would think that either the county 4206 02:58:18,479 --> 02:58:20,800 is responsible for it or the subdivision 4207 02:58:20,800 --> 02:58:22,240 is responsible for it. 4208 02:58:22,240 --> 02:58:22,550 >> Right. 4209 02:58:22,550 --> 02:58:22,560 » Right. 4210 02:58:22,560 --> 02:58:24,550 >> And you're now saying that it's deed to 4211 02:58:24,550 --> 02:58:24,560 » And you're now saying that it's deed to 4212 02:58:24,560 --> 02:58:25,920 one of the property owners. 4213 02:58:25,920 --> 02:58:28,070 >> Yeah. And that property owner is 4214 02:58:28,070 --> 02:58:28,080 » Yeah. And that property owner is 4215 02:58:28,080 --> 02:58:30,080 responsible for maintaining the 4216 02:58:30,080 --> 02:58:31,520 retention fund. 4217 02:58:31,520 --> 02:58:32,469 >> Right. 4218 02:58:32,469 --> 02:58:32,479 » Right. 4219 02:58:32,479 --> 02:58:34,469 >> And Peggy to do so results in a 4220 02:58:34,469 --> 02:58:34,479 » And Peggy to do so results in a 4221 02:58:34,479 --> 02:58:35,120 citation. 4222 02:58:35,120 --> 02:58:37,510 >> No, I told her I will not I mean she 4223 02:58:37,510 --> 02:58:37,520 » No, I told her I will not I mean she 4224 02:58:37,520 --> 02:58:38,800 called it in. I 4225 02:58:38,800 --> 02:58:40,950 >> But the process is Yeah. The process I 4226 02:58:40,950 --> 02:58:40,960 » But the process is Yeah. The process I 4227 02:58:40,960 --> 02:58:43,520 told her that if I went went forth with 4228 02:58:43,520 --> 02:58:44,880 it, that's who I would have to address 4229 02:58:44,880 --> 02:58:48,080 with her. So, um, I I gave her a couple 4230 02:58:48,080 --> 02:58:50,080 of departments to contact and I told her 4231 02:58:50,080 --> 02:58:52,800 to run it up the chain to a supervisor 4232 02:58:52,800 --> 02:58:55,279 or management to find out to get actual 4233 02:58:55,279 --> 02:58:57,600 answers and then if she needed other 4234 02:58:57,600 --> 02:58:59,200 assistance, she could contact me back. 4235 02:58:59,200 --> 02:59:01,520 But, um, it's been about at least three 4236 02:59:01,520 --> 02:59:04,880 for this past week that out of the blue 4237 02:59:04,880 --> 02:59:06,800 that they've come across and they've 4238 02:59:06,800 --> 02:59:09,040 contacted the cab first and then they 4239 02:59:09,040 --> 02:59:11,600 come to us and then that's what we find 4240 02:59:11,600 --> 02:59:13,439 after doing our research and finding. 4241 02:59:13,439 --> 02:59:13,760 So, 4242 02:59:13,760 --> 02:59:15,910 >> you know how many retention ponds are in 4243 02:59:15,910 --> 02:59:15,920 » you know how many retention ponds are in 4244 02:59:15,920 --> 02:59:18,240 Stone Crest? 4245 02:59:18,240 --> 02:59:20,710 >> About three 400. 4246 02:59:20,710 --> 02:59:20,720 » About three 400. 4247 02:59:20,720 --> 02:59:22,950 >> So, we just we just got the first group. 4248 02:59:22,950 --> 02:59:22,960 » So, we just we just got the first group. 4249 02:59:22,960 --> 02:59:24,880 Um, so I'm pretty sure they're coming 4250 02:59:24,880 --> 02:59:26,880 because if those three popped up and 4251 02:59:26,880 --> 02:59:28,960 they were getting them done and now they 4252 02:59:28,960 --> 02:59:30,560 having an issue, I'm sure the other ones 4253 02:59:30,560 --> 02:59:32,560 will. That's why I did want to bring it 4254 02:59:32,560 --> 02:59:34,800 to y'all's attention is because that is 4255 02:59:34,800 --> 02:59:36,560 coming and I'm not sure what we do with 4256 02:59:36,560 --> 02:59:36,880 that. 4257 02:59:36,880 --> 02:59:39,190 >> Madam city manager, 4258 02:59:39,190 --> 02:59:39,200 » Madam city manager, 4259 02:59:39,200 --> 02:59:42,560 you got a problem. 4260 02:59:42,560 --> 02:59:45,439 Okay. 4261 02:59:45,439 --> 02:59:47,920 All right. I'm going to 4262 02:59:47,920 --> 02:59:49,600 move on. We need to put this in another 4263 02:59:49,600 --> 02:59:53,840 category in terms of uh 4264 02:59:53,840 --> 02:59:56,479 making this 4265 02:59:56,479 --> 02:59:57,840 out of receipt, but bring about 4266 02:59:57,840 --> 03:00:00,479 compliance. And you guys have done a 4267 03:00:00,479 --> 03:00:02,240 tremendous job in terms of bringing this 4268 03:00:02,240 --> 03:00:05,920 many uh complaints to the courts. But 4269 03:00:05,920 --> 03:00:08,960 when they get there, if they go nowhere, 4270 03:00:08,960 --> 03:00:10,399 at some point you beating your head 4271 03:00:10,399 --> 03:00:12,880 against the wall. 4272 03:00:12,880 --> 03:00:16,800 And I'm not saying stop doing it cuz you 4273 03:00:16,800 --> 03:00:19,040 got to continue to 4274 03:00:19,040 --> 03:00:21,520 sound the alarm. But if we're not doing 4275 03:00:21,520 --> 03:00:24,240 our job on the other end, I understand 4276 03:00:24,240 --> 03:00:27,279 your frustration. I am frustrated 4277 03:00:27,279 --> 03:00:29,200 extremely 4278 03:00:29,200 --> 03:00:30,870 >> frustrated for Yeah. all of you in the 4279 03:00:30,870 --> 03:00:30,880 » frustrated for Yeah. all of you in the 4280 03:00:30,880 --> 03:00:36,070 residents that that call. Yeah. 4281 03:00:36,080 --> 03:00:39,279 are you? 4282 03:00:39,279 --> 03:00:41,990 >> Thank you, Councilman Turner. 4283 03:00:41,990 --> 03:00:42,000 » Thank you, Councilman Turner. 4284 03:00:42,000 --> 03:00:43,359 Council, do you have any other questions 4285 03:00:43,359 --> 03:00:49,349 for Miss White? 4286 03:00:49,359 --> 03:00:50,399 » Mayor Pro Tim. 4287 03:00:50,399 --> 03:00:51,750 >> Councilwoman Smith, 4288 03:00:51,750 --> 03:00:51,760 » Councilwoman Smith, 4289 03:00:51,760 --> 03:00:53,750 >> I don't have any additional questions 4290 03:00:53,750 --> 03:00:53,760 » I don't have any additional questions 4291 03:00:53,760 --> 03:00:55,760 for Miss White, but is this the closure 4292 03:00:55,760 --> 03:00:58,479 of the um code enforcement update? Is 4293 03:00:58,479 --> 03:01:01,040 that all you guys have? 4294 03:01:01,040 --> 03:01:03,680 That that's it. Okay. 4295 03:01:03,680 --> 03:01:06,160 Okay. Well, I would like to take a 4296 03:01:06,160 --> 03:01:11,439 moment to give Director Kawi and um 4297 03:01:11,439 --> 03:01:14,240 Officer Nixon and everybody who is 4298 03:01:14,240 --> 03:01:17,200 involved in getting one of the property 4299 03:01:17,200 --> 03:01:20,000 owners that has 4300 03:01:20,000 --> 03:01:22,880 become a a nuisance or had become a 4301 03:01:22,880 --> 03:01:25,040 nuisance not only for the city but for 4302 03:01:25,040 --> 03:01:27,520 the people who lived in the city. They 4303 03:01:27,520 --> 03:01:29,680 were not taking care of the property for 4304 03:01:29,680 --> 03:01:31,359 the betterment of the people who lived 4305 03:01:31,359 --> 03:01:35,279 in the property. And Officer Nixon along 4306 03:01:35,279 --> 03:01:38,240 with others in code enforcement held 4307 03:01:38,240 --> 03:01:40,560 their feet to the fire and got them 4308 03:01:40,560 --> 03:01:42,640 together, the owners of the property, 4309 03:01:42,640 --> 03:01:45,520 the property management team. um Dicab 4310 03:01:45,520 --> 03:01:49,120 County came out um in order to talk to 4311 03:01:49,120 --> 03:01:51,920 them about the many citations that they 4312 03:01:51,920 --> 03:01:55,760 had received and doing something about 4313 03:01:55,760 --> 03:01:58,000 those citations, what they were cited 4314 03:01:58,000 --> 03:02:01,279 for. So, I would like to and I've seen 4315 03:02:01,279 --> 03:02:03,439 the updates and the progress that has 4316 03:02:03,439 --> 03:02:06,479 been made. So, I would like to recognize 4317 03:02:06,479 --> 03:02:09,680 Officer Nixon, um, Director Kawi and 4318 03:02:09,680 --> 03:02:11,920 team along with Decap County for coming 4319 03:02:11,920 --> 03:02:14,560 out and helping us move this into a 4320 03:02:14,560 --> 03:02:16,800 positive direction. So, thank you all so 4321 03:02:16,800 --> 03:02:20,630 much. 4322 03:02:20,640 --> 03:02:22,640 Thank you, Councilwoman Smith. Thank 4323 03:02:22,640 --> 03:02:24,560 you, Miss Cowie, and the team. I 4324 03:02:24,560 --> 03:02:26,800 appreciate you 4325 03:02:26,800 --> 03:02:28,080 and thank you for all the work that you 4326 03:02:28,080 --> 03:02:29,680 do here in the city. Thank you, Miss 4327 03:02:29,680 --> 03:02:33,359 White. Next on the agenda is for 4328 03:02:33,359 --> 03:02:35,200 discussion Stone Crest Development 4329 03:02:35,200 --> 03:02:39,120 Authority SDA update. 4330 03:02:39,120 --> 03:02:51,830 Mr. Randall 4331 03:02:51,840 --> 03:02:55,680 back again. U most of the information um 4332 03:02:55,680 --> 03:02:58,080 in reference to the 4333 03:02:58,080 --> 03:03:00,399 development authority UR talked a little 4334 03:03:00,399 --> 03:03:02,560 about that information. 4335 03:03:02,560 --> 03:03:05,600 Um I'm not sure what the mayor was going 4336 03:03:05,600 --> 03:03:08,000 to report on but the only thing I need 4337 03:03:08,000 --> 03:03:11,920 to mention about the SDA 4338 03:03:11,920 --> 03:03:13,840 is 4339 03:03:13,840 --> 03:03:16,479 there is a project that we're working on 4340 03:03:16,479 --> 03:03:19,120 with Dope Coffee. 4341 03:03:19,120 --> 03:03:22,640 Um we're still trying to um help them 4342 03:03:22,640 --> 03:03:24,479 get up and running. They are in the 4343 03:03:24,479 --> 03:03:27,520 space trying to renovate, but they have 4344 03:03:27,520 --> 03:03:31,760 made a request um a proposal 4345 03:03:31,760 --> 03:03:33,600 um 4346 03:03:33,600 --> 03:03:36,640 sort of delay 4347 03:03:36,640 --> 03:03:38,960 um some payment on the lease because the 4348 03:03:38,960 --> 03:03:41,600 original investor that they had bailed 4349 03:03:41,600 --> 03:03:45,920 out on them. So they're trying to um 4350 03:03:45,920 --> 03:03:48,960 handle everything on on their own. So, 4351 03:03:48,960 --> 03:03:51,520 um we are 4352 03:03:51,520 --> 03:03:53,200 going to be having some conversations at 4353 03:03:53,200 --> 03:03:55,439 the next development authority meeting 4354 03:03:55,439 --> 03:03:58,160 um being led by the attorney as what 4355 03:03:58,160 --> 03:04:02,160 we're going to do in reference to dope 4356 03:04:02,160 --> 03:04:05,840 coffee and the space occupied. So, 4357 03:04:05,840 --> 03:04:07,920 we'll have more information on that once 4358 03:04:07,920 --> 03:04:09,120 we have that discussion with the 4359 03:04:09,120 --> 03:04:11,680 development authorities month. 4360 03:04:11,680 --> 03:04:14,399 And um 4361 03:04:14,399 --> 03:04:17,359 I think everything else I pretty much 4362 03:04:17,359 --> 03:04:18,319 talked a little bit about the 4363 03:04:18,319 --> 03:04:20,000 development authority and the URA in my 4364 03:04:20,000 --> 03:04:22,479 presentation. So if you have any further 4365 03:04:22,479 --> 03:04:26,870 questions about 4366 03:04:26,880 --> 03:04:29,200 any projects or anything with the URA or 4367 03:04:29,200 --> 03:04:31,760 SDA more than happy to answer those 4368 03:04:31,760 --> 03:04:35,830 questions. 4369 03:04:35,840 --> 03:04:37,920 Council, do you have any questions for 4370 03:04:37,920 --> 03:04:41,030 director? 4371 03:04:41,040 --> 03:04:43,520 » Tim, 4372 03:04:43,520 --> 03:04:46,070 >> are you covering both the URA as well as 4373 03:04:46,070 --> 03:04:46,080 » are you covering both the URA as well as 4374 03:04:46,080 --> 03:04:48,800 the uh development authority in this 4375 03:04:48,800 --> 03:04:50,560 presentation? 4376 03:04:50,560 --> 03:04:53,429 >> Um, in my last presentation, I did talk 4377 03:04:53,429 --> 03:04:53,439 » Um, in my last presentation, I did talk 4378 03:04:53,439 --> 03:04:55,279 about the things that we're talking 4379 03:04:55,279 --> 03:04:57,840 about because I do work with both. 4380 03:04:57,840 --> 03:04:59,030 >> I was just going to have different 4381 03:04:59,030 --> 03:04:59,040 » I was just going to have different 4382 03:04:59,040 --> 03:05:01,760 question for the UR versus the uh the 4383 03:05:01,760 --> 03:05:02,640 SDA. 4384 03:05:02,640 --> 03:05:03,510 >> Okay, that'll be fine. 4385 03:05:03,510 --> 03:05:03,520 » Okay, that'll be fine. 4386 03:05:03,520 --> 03:05:04,630 >> You got both of them now? 4387 03:05:04,630 --> 03:05:04,640 » You got both of them now? 4388 03:05:04,640 --> 03:05:07,670 >> Yes, sir. Oh, okay. Um, same question I 4389 03:05:07,670 --> 03:05:07,680 » Yes, sir. Oh, okay. Um, same question I 4390 03:05:07,680 --> 03:05:10,960 had before about the Allen property and 4391 03:05:10,960 --> 03:05:15,680 the uh the SDA is involved with the 4392 03:05:15,680 --> 03:05:18,240 home. I mean the property at Evans Mill 4393 03:05:18,240 --> 03:05:21,520 and uh Woodro. You're saying that's not 4394 03:05:21,520 --> 03:05:23,760 a part of the SDA, 4395 03:05:23,760 --> 03:05:25,990 >> right? But when it comes to dealing with 4396 03:05:25,990 --> 03:05:26,000 » right? But when it comes to dealing with 4397 03:05:26,000 --> 03:05:28,160 the 4398 03:05:28,160 --> 03:05:31,520 whole situation that is included in it, 4399 03:05:31,520 --> 03:05:34,230 >> no, the the the property at the compound 4400 03:05:34,230 --> 03:05:34,240 » no, the the the property at the compound 4401 03:05:34,240 --> 03:05:37,359 is not part of the baitment that's on 4402 03:05:37,359 --> 03:05:40,960 the property along Interstate 20 and 4403 03:05:40,960 --> 03:05:43,279 also the Black Wall Street building. 4404 03:05:43,279 --> 03:05:45,840 Those are two separate resolutions that 4405 03:05:45,840 --> 03:05:49,439 we issued in n 2019 and 2020. 4406 03:05:49,439 --> 03:05:52,160 Um but the the property at the compound 4407 03:05:52,160 --> 03:05:54,560 is not included in any of those 4408 03:05:54,560 --> 03:05:58,720 abatements. However, there is a zoning 4409 03:05:58,720 --> 03:06:00,720 challenge when it comes to people who 4410 03:06:00,720 --> 03:06:03,200 are interested in that property because 4411 03:06:03,200 --> 03:06:06,240 it has not been used in so long that the 4412 03:06:06,240 --> 03:06:08,479 ordinance says after it has been dormant 4413 03:06:08,479 --> 03:06:11,600 to six months, it reverts back to R 100. 4414 03:06:11,600 --> 03:06:13,760 I think we called it a nonconformative 4415 03:06:13,760 --> 03:06:15,680 use 4416 03:06:15,680 --> 03:06:18,640 until the six months um came up. So now 4417 03:06:18,640 --> 03:06:21,120 it reverted back. So the challenge now 4418 03:06:21,120 --> 03:06:23,920 is how can people who are interested in 4419 03:06:23,920 --> 03:06:25,840 the property to use those buildings as 4420 03:06:25,840 --> 03:06:28,240 they exist. How can it happen when it's 4421 03:06:28,240 --> 03:06:31,600 own or 100 now when it reverted back? 4422 03:06:31,600 --> 03:06:34,309 >> Yeah. Well, my concern is that when I 4423 03:06:34,309 --> 03:06:34,319 » Yeah. Well, my concern is that when I 4424 03:06:34,319 --> 03:06:37,040 look at the map, it seems like this is 4425 03:06:37,040 --> 03:06:40,800 one conversation, but in uh reality, 4426 03:06:40,800 --> 03:06:43,600 this is three different conversations. 4427 03:06:43,600 --> 03:06:45,760 uh the SDA property that's a part of the 4428 03:06:45,760 --> 03:06:47,040 abatement 4429 03:06:47,040 --> 03:06:49,269 >> and as in you're saying that the new 4430 03:06:49,269 --> 03:06:49,279 » and as in you're saying that the new 4431 03:06:49,279 --> 03:06:50,960 black wall street is not a part of the 4432 03:06:50,960 --> 03:06:51,600 uh abatement 4433 03:06:51,600 --> 03:06:53,670 >> the new black black wall street is part 4434 03:06:53,670 --> 03:06:53,680 » the new black black wall street is part 4435 03:06:53,680 --> 03:06:56,800 of the abatement that's one one project 4436 03:06:56,800 --> 03:06:59,830 >> the 400 plus acres along the interstate 4437 03:06:59,830 --> 03:06:59,840 » the 400 plus acres along the interstate 4438 03:06:59,840 --> 03:07:01,590 >> so there are two abatement uh 4439 03:07:01,590 --> 03:07:01,600 » so there are two abatement uh 4440 03:07:01,600 --> 03:07:03,429 >> exactly so those are two and then the 4441 03:07:03,429 --> 03:07:03,439 » exactly so those are two and then the 4442 03:07:03,439 --> 03:07:05,200 third property by the Allen family is 4443 03:07:05,200 --> 03:07:06,720 the compound which is not under an 4444 03:07:06,720 --> 03:07:07,359 abatement 4445 03:07:07,359 --> 03:07:09,750 >> not under abatement so it's it's a 4446 03:07:09,750 --> 03:07:09,760 » not under abatement so it's it's a 4447 03:07:09,760 --> 03:07:11,120 separate conversation 4448 03:07:11,120 --> 03:07:13,670 >> yes sir but we're trying to help out as 4449 03:07:13,670 --> 03:07:13,680 » yes sir but we're trying to help out as 4450 03:07:13,680 --> 03:07:15,680 as much as we can to try to see how we 4451 03:07:15,680 --> 03:07:17,439 can do something on that. 4452 03:07:17,439 --> 03:07:18,630 >> Yeah. In terms of marketing, I 4453 03:07:18,630 --> 03:07:18,640 » Yeah. In terms of marketing, I 4454 03:07:18,640 --> 03:07:21,040 understand, but in terms of reality and 4455 03:07:21,040 --> 03:07:22,560 legalities 4456 03:07:22,560 --> 03:07:24,880 and that is not a part of it. 4457 03:07:24,880 --> 03:07:25,750 >> That's correct. 4458 03:07:25,750 --> 03:07:25,760 » That's correct. 4459 03:07:25,760 --> 03:07:26,950 >> Okay. All right. Just wanted to be 4460 03:07:26,950 --> 03:07:26,960 » Okay. All right. Just wanted to be 4461 03:07:26,960 --> 03:07:29,120 clear. 4462 03:07:29,120 --> 03:07:31,439 Um 4463 03:07:31,439 --> 03:07:35,110 the URRA 4464 03:07:35,120 --> 03:07:38,080 well I had some properties for the 4465 03:07:38,080 --> 03:07:41,680 chair of the URA but I will say most of 4466 03:07:41,680 --> 03:07:45,600 that and that is versus the city own um 4467 03:07:45,600 --> 03:07:50,550 parks plus so the URRA owns 4468 03:07:50,560 --> 03:07:51,920 » club building 4469 03:07:51,920 --> 03:07:54,469 >> this building and what else 4470 03:07:54,469 --> 03:07:54,479 » this building and what else 4471 03:07:54,479 --> 03:07:56,469 >> believe that's it just those two 4472 03:07:56,469 --> 03:07:56,479 » believe that's it just those two 4473 03:07:56,479 --> 03:07:58,160 properties is the URA 4474 03:07:58,160 --> 03:07:59,910 >> yeah I know. I'm just trying to bring 4475 03:07:59,910 --> 03:07:59,920 » yeah I know. I'm just trying to bring 4476 03:07:59,920 --> 03:08:02,640 that out for benefit of the newbies. And 4477 03:08:02,640 --> 03:08:04,150 >> yeah, this those are two buildings that 4478 03:08:04,150 --> 03:08:04,160 » yeah, this those are two buildings that 4479 03:08:04,160 --> 03:08:06,479 the URA owns. This current building 4480 03:08:06,479 --> 03:08:09,600 here, the city hall and the old Sam's 4481 03:08:09,600 --> 03:08:11,439 building is owned by the RA. 4482 03:08:11,439 --> 03:08:14,070 >> Okay, good. Um 4483 03:08:14,070 --> 03:08:14,080 » Okay, good. Um 4484 03:08:14,080 --> 03:08:17,279 the URRA meetings occur twice a year 4485 03:08:17,279 --> 03:08:18,800 regularly. 4486 03:08:18,800 --> 03:08:21,520 That is the first of the year and the 4487 03:08:21,520 --> 03:08:24,080 middle of the year. And there are 4488 03:08:24,080 --> 03:08:27,600 records maintained uh by the secretary 4489 03:08:27,600 --> 03:08:31,359 which just happens to be yours truly. So 4490 03:08:31,359 --> 03:08:33,040 uh those records are there of the 4491 03:08:33,040 --> 03:08:35,279 meetings and the minutes once they are 4492 03:08:35,279 --> 03:08:37,840 approved. So if you and there are 4493 03:08:37,840 --> 03:08:40,479 written bylaws for those who need to 4494 03:08:40,479 --> 03:08:43,439 take a look and that that should be 4495 03:08:43,439 --> 03:08:47,920 online as well the bylaws for the urra. 4496 03:08:47,920 --> 03:08:50,640 I'm not sure about the SDA. uh they 4497 03:08:50,640 --> 03:08:52,160 should be there someplace but I'm not a 4498 03:08:52,160 --> 03:08:55,359 part of that. So uh but I am a part of 4499 03:08:55,359 --> 03:08:58,880 the UR and those bylaws are available 4500 03:08:58,880 --> 03:09:03,200 online for those who need to know. 4501 03:09:03,200 --> 03:09:06,950 Um 4502 03:09:06,960 --> 03:09:12,070 that's it. 4503 03:09:12,080 --> 03:09:13,520 » Okay. I will hold the other questions 4504 03:09:13,520 --> 03:09:17,190 for the chair 4505 03:09:17,200 --> 03:09:19,760 » council. Any other questions? 4506 03:09:19,760 --> 03:09:21,520 Mayor Proim, I do. 4507 03:09:21,520 --> 03:09:23,030 >> Councilwoman Washington. 4508 03:09:23,030 --> 03:09:23,040 » Councilwoman Washington. 4509 03:09:23,040 --> 03:09:24,870 >> Um, there's no I know we're talking 4510 03:09:24,870 --> 03:09:24,880 » Um, there's no I know we're talking 4511 03:09:24,880 --> 03:09:28,000 about property that we own, right? And 4512 03:09:28,000 --> 03:09:30,080 there's no mention and I'm not sure if 4513 03:09:30,080 --> 03:09:33,359 it's under the UR or the SDA, but the 4514 03:09:33,359 --> 03:09:37,120 botanical garden is 66 acres. 4515 03:09:37,120 --> 03:09:39,439 What does that fall up under? 4516 03:09:39,439 --> 03:09:43,030 >> Um, that's a good question. Um, I'm not 4517 03:09:43,030 --> 03:09:43,040 » Um, that's a good question. Um, I'm not 4518 03:09:43,040 --> 03:09:48,560 sure. Um I think it may fall up under um 4519 03:09:48,560 --> 03:09:51,120 director Kawi 4520 03:09:51,120 --> 03:09:53,439 if I'm correct. 4521 03:09:53,439 --> 03:09:55,750 >> Um the Botanical Gardens who does that 4522 03:09:55,750 --> 03:09:55,760 » Um the Botanical Gardens who does that 4523 03:09:55,760 --> 03:10:00,070 follow up under 4524 03:10:00,080 --> 03:10:04,790 » Madam Oh. 4525 03:10:04,800 --> 03:10:06,160 » Yes. Attorney Thompson. 4526 03:10:06,160 --> 03:10:07,990 >> Uh the Botanical Gardens is a city 4527 03:10:07,990 --> 03:10:08,000 » Uh the Botanical Gardens is a city 4528 03:10:08,000 --> 03:10:11,520 project. It's not under the URA or the 4529 03:10:11,520 --> 03:10:15,830 SDA. 4530 03:10:15,840 --> 03:10:17,359 Attorney, should that be considered in 4531 03:10:17,359 --> 03:10:22,550 the same vein as parks property? 4532 03:10:22,560 --> 03:10:24,080 I'm not 4533 03:10:24,080 --> 03:10:27,269 >> I believe so. I know um probably um 4534 03:10:27,269 --> 03:10:27,279 » I believe so. I know um probably um 4535 03:10:27,279 --> 03:10:29,040 expenses come from that account. So 4536 03:10:29,040 --> 03:10:32,479 that's more um I know Mr. U Car Craran 4537 03:10:32,479 --> 03:10:35,200 can can answer that directly, but I 4538 03:10:35,200 --> 03:10:38,720 believe um spending is under the city's 4539 03:10:38,720 --> 03:10:41,120 uh budget and within the general fund 4540 03:10:41,120 --> 03:10:46,710 and or their capital funds. 4541 03:10:46,720 --> 03:10:49,359 » Okay. So, it being up under parks, but 4542 03:10:49,359 --> 03:10:51,040 it still would be considered property 4543 03:10:51,040 --> 03:10:55,040 that the city owns, correct? 4544 03:10:55,040 --> 03:10:56,389 >> Yes, ma'am. 4545 03:10:56,389 --> 03:10:56,399 » Yes, ma'am. 4546 03:10:56,399 --> 03:10:58,710 >> Okay. That that was what I was show. 4547 03:10:58,710 --> 03:10:58,720 » Okay. That that was what I was show. 4548 03:10:58,720 --> 03:11:06,630 Okay. Thank you. Are you 4549 03:11:06,640 --> 03:11:10,950 Council, any other question? 4550 03:11:10,960 --> 03:11:13,279 » Director Lance Randall, what did you say 4551 03:11:13,279 --> 03:11:15,200 about Dope Coffee? Can you repeat that 4552 03:11:15,200 --> 03:11:16,319 for me? 4553 03:11:16,319 --> 03:11:19,429 >> Um, yes. So, Dope Coffee, um, the lease 4554 03:11:19,429 --> 03:11:19,439 » Um, yes. So, Dope Coffee, um, the lease 4555 03:11:19,439 --> 03:11:21,680 has been signed and we'll get the 4556 03:11:21,680 --> 03:11:24,560 attorney to chime in as well. And they 4557 03:11:24,560 --> 03:11:26,319 have 4558 03:11:26,319 --> 03:11:29,439 began to do renovations on the space. 4559 03:11:29,439 --> 03:11:31,520 Um, initially they had an investor that 4560 03:11:31,520 --> 03:11:33,600 was going to be a part of the project 4561 03:11:33,600 --> 03:11:36,800 that walked away which left Dope Coffee 4562 03:11:36,800 --> 03:11:38,560 trying to move this project along by 4563 03:11:38,560 --> 03:11:39,920 themselves which they've been trying to 4564 03:11:39,920 --> 03:11:44,080 do. Um, they sent us a proposal asking 4565 03:11:44,080 --> 03:11:46,479 for some type of forbearance on the 4566 03:11:46,479 --> 03:11:48,399 lease payments while they're trying to 4567 03:11:48,399 --> 03:11:50,080 recalibrate 4568 03:11:50,080 --> 03:11:52,000 to get things in order to get into the 4569 03:11:52,000 --> 03:11:56,880 space. And um, they've made the request 4570 03:11:56,880 --> 03:11:59,359 a formal request. So, we're supposed to 4571 03:11:59,359 --> 03:12:02,240 have a discussion about that proposal 4572 03:12:02,240 --> 03:12:04,640 and um we're going to have that 4573 03:12:04,640 --> 03:12:07,120 discussion at the development authority 4574 03:12:07,120 --> 03:12:10,000 meeting as to what we're going to do. Um 4575 03:12:10,000 --> 03:12:12,640 I'll let attorney Thompson chime in if 4576 03:12:12,640 --> 03:12:13,920 she wants to chime in a little bit on 4577 03:12:13,920 --> 03:12:15,520 that. 4578 03:12:15,520 --> 03:12:17,680 I won't I don't have anything to add to 4579 03:12:17,680 --> 03:12:20,080 that, but I will say I would um maybe 4580 03:12:20,080 --> 03:12:23,600 that conversation can be left to 4581 03:12:23,600 --> 03:12:27,920 um the SDA and then also if um I know 4582 03:12:27,920 --> 03:12:29,840 the city has an interest there and maybe 4583 03:12:29,840 --> 03:12:33,840 that's something we can discuss um 4584 03:12:33,840 --> 03:12:37,830 on another date. 4585 03:12:37,840 --> 03:12:41,840 » When is the um next SDA meeting? 4586 03:12:41,840 --> 03:12:44,950 >> August the 27th. 4587 03:12:44,950 --> 03:12:44,960 » August the 27th. 4588 03:12:44,960 --> 03:12:46,560 But we should be able to get an update 4589 03:12:46,560 --> 03:12:49,359 in September. 4590 03:12:49,359 --> 03:12:52,630 >> I'm hoping for that. 4591 03:12:52,630 --> 03:12:52,640 » I'm hoping for that. 4592 03:12:52,640 --> 03:12:55,040 Um, 4593 03:12:55,040 --> 03:12:57,279 and by the way, this meeting, typically 4594 03:12:57,279 --> 03:12:58,720 the meetings are virtual, but this 4595 03:12:58,720 --> 03:13:01,600 meeting um will have to be in person 4596 03:13:01,600 --> 03:13:04,560 because um of some things we need to 4597 03:13:04,560 --> 03:13:05,920 discuss and some people that may be 4598 03:13:05,920 --> 03:13:07,600 coming in to have a conversation with 4599 03:13:07,600 --> 03:13:10,950 us. 4600 03:13:10,960 --> 03:13:12,560 Council, do you have any other questions 4601 03:13:12,560 --> 03:13:20,790 for Director Randle? 4602 03:13:20,800 --> 03:13:23,040 Actually, I do have another question. 4603 03:13:23,040 --> 03:13:26,880 Um, as far as URA, this this building, 4604 03:13:26,880 --> 03:13:31,200 um, what do we or have you discussed 4605 03:13:31,200 --> 03:13:34,800 what we plan on doing with the space 4606 03:13:34,800 --> 03:13:38,080 um that is vacant? 4607 03:13:38,080 --> 03:13:40,070 >> Well, it's on commercial. We did have a 4608 03:13:40,070 --> 03:13:40,080 » Well, it's on commercial. We did have a 4609 03:13:40,080 --> 03:13:41,920 prospect that looked at it. And then if 4610 03:13:41,920 --> 03:13:43,439 you just mentioned about the long list 4611 03:13:43,439 --> 03:13:46,160 of prohibited uses, we talked about the 4612 03:13:46,160 --> 03:13:48,160 damage to the building. 4613 03:13:48,160 --> 03:13:49,590 >> I'm referring to city hall. 4614 03:13:49,590 --> 03:13:49,600 » I'm referring to city hall. 4615 03:13:49,600 --> 03:13:51,670 >> Oh, the city hall. Oh, 4616 03:13:51,670 --> 03:13:51,680 » Oh, the city hall. Oh, 4617 03:13:51,680 --> 03:13:53,110 >> madam. 4618 03:13:53,110 --> 03:13:53,120 » madam. 4619 03:13:53,120 --> 03:13:54,150 >> Oh, 4620 03:13:54,150 --> 03:13:54,160 » Oh, 4621 03:13:54,160 --> 03:13:55,269 >> yes. 4622 03:13:55,269 --> 03:13:55,279 » yes. 4623 03:13:55,279 --> 03:13:57,510 >> I was going to say uh maybe that is 4624 03:13:57,510 --> 03:13:57,520 » I was going to say uh maybe that is 4625 03:13:57,520 --> 03:13:59,359 something we can discuss in the UR 4626 03:13:59,359 --> 03:14:04,000 executive session. Um as far as the 4627 03:14:04,000 --> 03:14:05,439 potential tenants, is is that what 4628 03:14:05,439 --> 03:14:09,200 you're discussing about? 4629 03:14:09,200 --> 03:14:11,600 I wasn't necessarily asking about any 4630 03:14:11,600 --> 03:14:14,080 tenants, but just kind of an update on 4631 03:14:14,080 --> 03:14:16,479 anticipation of what we plan on doing 4632 03:14:16,479 --> 03:14:20,960 with the space or did they discuss um 4633 03:14:20,960 --> 03:14:23,600 what we are we planning on written the 4634 03:14:23,600 --> 03:14:25,600 space out or we going to expand city 4635 03:14:25,600 --> 03:14:27,920 hall? What was the 4636 03:14:27,920 --> 03:14:28,790 >> Oh, you're talking about city hall 4637 03:14:28,790 --> 03:14:28,800 » Oh, you're talking about city hall 4638 03:14:28,800 --> 03:14:30,229 >> plans. Absolutely. Yes. 4639 03:14:30,229 --> 03:14:30,239 » plans. Absolutely. Yes. 4640 03:14:30,239 --> 03:14:32,150 >> Okay. Um 4641 03:14:32,150 --> 03:14:32,160 » Okay. Um 4642 03:14:32,160 --> 03:14:36,160 I do know that um 4643 03:14:36,160 --> 03:14:38,000 some of the things that are being done u 4644 03:14:38,000 --> 03:14:39,760 there's a second floor renovation going 4645 03:14:39,760 --> 03:14:41,439 on 4646 03:14:41,439 --> 03:14:44,399 and um it's my understanding there's an 4647 03:14:44,399 --> 03:14:47,600 interest from company that wants to take 4648 03:14:47,600 --> 03:14:50,960 a look at moving into that space. So 4649 03:14:50,960 --> 03:14:52,640 that's a discussion that needs to happen 4650 03:14:52,640 --> 03:14:55,439 with the RRA. So when the meeting is 4651 03:14:55,439 --> 03:14:58,319 scheduled, which I hope will be soon, 4652 03:14:58,319 --> 03:14:59,680 that needs to come up along with the 4653 03:14:59,680 --> 03:15:02,560 sounds building about the space that's 4654 03:15:02,560 --> 03:15:04,319 available. So we do have someone that's 4655 03:15:04,319 --> 03:15:06,080 interested in that. 4656 03:15:06,080 --> 03:15:08,070 >> Now, do we currently have the URA 4657 03:15:08,070 --> 03:15:08,080 » Now, do we currently have the URA 4658 03:15:08,080 --> 03:15:11,040 meeting scheduled? 4659 03:15:11,040 --> 03:15:13,269 >> Um I don't know. Um I staff the 4660 03:15:13,269 --> 03:15:13,279 » Um I don't know. Um I staff the 4661 03:15:13,279 --> 03:15:15,680 development authority and that was one 4662 03:15:15,680 --> 03:15:18,160 thing that I was talking to some council 4663 03:15:18,160 --> 03:15:20,960 members about. Um I wouldn't mind being 4664 03:15:20,960 --> 03:15:23,680 the staff also for the URA. 4665 03:15:23,680 --> 03:15:25,520 um since I do work with the RA and we 4666 03:15:25,520 --> 03:15:27,279 were able to do something over the 4667 03:15:27,279 --> 03:15:29,520 spring to bring some money in by using 4668 03:15:29,520 --> 03:15:31,920 the SAM space, but it's discussion that 4669 03:15:31,920 --> 03:15:34,640 you probably need to have um since I do 4670 03:15:34,640 --> 03:15:37,120 staff the SDA 4671 03:15:37,120 --> 03:15:40,239 and I do work with the RA, but I'm not 4672 03:15:40,239 --> 03:15:43,359 an official staff person. So, um I 4673 03:15:43,359 --> 03:15:46,080 really don't know, but I do work with 4674 03:15:46,080 --> 03:15:47,439 the um chair of the development 4675 03:15:47,439 --> 03:15:50,160 authority to put together the agenda for 4676 03:15:50,160 --> 03:15:52,319 the SDA, but I haven't worked with 4677 03:15:52,319 --> 03:15:55,040 anyone with the URA, but would like to 4678 03:15:55,040 --> 03:15:58,389 do so. 4679 03:15:58,399 --> 03:16:02,399 » Well, lucky for you, you have the vice 4680 03:16:02,399 --> 03:16:04,399 chair here tonight. Maybe she's 4681 03:16:04,399 --> 03:16:08,710 listening and noting. 4682 03:16:08,720 --> 03:16:12,080 Councilwoman Smith. 4683 03:16:12,080 --> 03:16:14,720 Any other qu any other questions for 4684 03:16:14,720 --> 03:16:19,830 Director Randall? 4685 03:16:19,840 --> 03:16:21,760 » Director Randall. 4686 03:16:21,760 --> 03:16:24,469 >> Um I think it's a good idea for us to 4687 03:16:24,469 --> 03:16:24,479 » Um I think it's a good idea for us to 4688 03:16:24,479 --> 03:16:26,800 have a staff person. It's a conversation 4689 03:16:26,800 --> 03:16:28,800 like you said we would need to have in 4690 03:16:28,800 --> 03:16:31,359 our meeting. Um we've requested that the 4691 03:16:31,359 --> 03:16:35,359 chair organize a meeting. I will send a 4692 03:16:35,359 --> 03:16:38,239 request again to the chair requesting a 4693 03:16:38,239 --> 03:16:41,279 meeting for us to discuss all the topics 4694 03:16:41,279 --> 03:16:45,359 that we have been anticipating 4695 03:16:45,359 --> 03:16:47,359 discussing. 4696 03:16:47,359 --> 03:16:48,630 >> Sounds good. 4697 03:16:48,630 --> 03:16:48,640 » Sounds good. 4698 03:16:48,640 --> 03:16:49,990 >> Report two. 4699 03:16:49,990 --> 03:16:50,000 » Report two. 4700 03:16:50,000 --> 03:16:50,950 >> Councilman Turner. 4701 03:16:50,950 --> 03:16:50,960 » Councilman Turner. 4702 03:16:50,960 --> 03:16:54,710 >> Uh the council well to vice chair Smith. 4703 03:16:54,710 --> 03:16:54,720 » Uh the council well to vice chair Smith. 4704 03:16:54,720 --> 03:16:56,640 I believe the same rules apply that 4705 03:16:56,640 --> 03:16:59,279 apply to city council that a certain 4706 03:16:59,279 --> 03:17:01,439 number of members of the UR can call the 4707 03:17:01,439 --> 03:17:03,279 meeting without 4708 03:17:03,279 --> 03:17:05,760 necessarily being scheduled. So you are 4709 03:17:05,760 --> 03:17:09,120 at that leisure if so inclined. 4710 03:17:09,120 --> 03:17:09,429 >> Thank you. 4711 03:17:09,429 --> 03:17:09,439 » Thank you. 4712 03:17:09,439 --> 03:17:11,429 >> I mean at the proper time. 4713 03:17:11,429 --> 03:17:11,439 » I mean at the proper time. 4714 03:17:11,439 --> 03:17:18,229 >> Thank you Councilman Turner. 4715 03:17:18,239 --> 03:17:20,720 » Mayor Pro Tim. Madam, city manager, 4716 03:17:20,720 --> 03:17:23,190 >> I was going to ask Councilwoman Smith if 4717 03:17:23,190 --> 03:17:23,200 » I was going to ask Councilwoman Smith if 4718 03:17:23,200 --> 03:17:25,120 she would be willing to host a meeting 4719 03:17:25,120 --> 03:17:27,520 since we do have a potential tenant. We 4720 03:17:27,520 --> 03:17:28,479 don't want to miss out on that 4721 03:17:28,479 --> 03:17:30,560 opportunity uh that would better support 4722 03:17:30,560 --> 03:17:33,120 the city. 4723 03:17:33,120 --> 03:17:35,200 But you have asking we get something on 4724 03:17:35,200 --> 03:17:40,710 the calendar. 4725 03:17:40,720 --> 03:17:44,399 Yes, I will send a additional message to 4726 03:17:44,399 --> 03:17:48,560 the chair and if we are not able to um 4727 03:17:48,560 --> 03:17:51,840 get the chair who's mayor Cowell to get 4728 03:17:51,840 --> 03:17:54,239 the meeting schedule then I will move 4729 03:17:54,239 --> 03:17:56,479 forward with getting a meeting scheduled 4730 03:17:56,479 --> 03:18:00,319 since we have um the consist consensus 4731 03:18:00,319 --> 03:18:04,800 of the members that a meeting is needed. 4732 03:18:04,800 --> 03:18:11,110 >> Thank you. 4733 03:18:11,120 --> 03:18:14,000 So we had the discussion about the SDA 4734 03:18:14,000 --> 03:18:17,600 and URA. Thank you so much Mr. Randall. 4735 03:18:17,600 --> 03:18:18,309 >> Welcome 4736 03:18:18,309 --> 03:18:18,319 » Welcome 4737 03:18:18,319 --> 03:18:21,269 >> for the update. Um is there any need for 4738 03:18:21,269 --> 03:18:21,279 » for the update. Um is there any need for 4739 03:18:21,279 --> 03:18:28,950 executive session? 4740 03:18:28,960 --> 03:18:31,920 » Not on behalf of the city attorney. 4741 03:18:31,920 --> 03:18:34,229 >> Thank you so much. I will entertain a 4742 03:18:34,229 --> 03:18:34,239 » Thank you so much. I will entertain a 4743 03:18:34,239 --> 03:18:38,150 motion. 4744 03:18:38,160 --> 03:18:38,800 Tim, 4745 03:18:38,800 --> 03:18:40,550 >> Councilman Turner move for adjournment 4746 03:18:40,550 --> 03:18:40,560 » Councilman Turner move for adjournment 4747 03:18:40,560 --> 03:18:43,200 of the work session city of Stone Crest. 4748 03:18:43,200 --> 03:18:46,550 >> Second. Okay. 4749 03:18:46,550 --> 03:18:46,560 » Second. Okay. 4750 03:18:46,560 --> 03:18:48,389 >> The motion has been properly moved and 4751 03:18:48,389 --> 03:18:48,399 » The motion has been properly moved and 4752 03:18:48,399 --> 03:18:50,880 second by Councilwoman Smith. Are you 4753 03:18:50,880 --> 03:18:52,960 ready for the question? All those in 4754 03:18:52,960 --> 03:18:54,479 favor of the motion, please respond with 4755 03:18:54,479 --> 03:18:55,920 yay. All those opposed, nay. Starting 4756 03:18:55,920 --> 03:18:57,279 with district three, 4757 03:18:57,279 --> 03:18:57,830 >> yay. 4758 03:18:57,830 --> 03:18:57,840 » yay. 4759 03:18:57,840 --> 03:18:58,790 >> District four, 4760 03:18:58,790 --> 03:18:58,800 » District four, 4761 03:18:58,800 --> 03:18:59,510 >> yay. 4762 03:18:59,510 --> 03:18:59,520 » yay. 4763 03:18:59,520 --> 03:19:00,710 >> District five, 4764 03:19:00,710 --> 03:19:00,720 » District five, 4765 03:19:00,720 --> 03:19:01,269 >> yay. 4766 03:19:01,269 --> 03:19:01,279 » yay. 4767 03:19:01,279 --> 03:19:03,670 >> District one is yay. This meeting is now 4768 03:19:03,670 --> 03:19:03,680 » District one is yay. This meeting is now 4769 03:19:03,680 --> 03:19:06,160 adjourned. Thank you so much for 4770 03:19:06,160 --> 03:19:08,399 attending and Stone Crest have a 4771 03:19:08,399 --> 03:19:12,080 wonderful week. Good night.