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>> Well, I think that uh

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our guest would like to address the

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board first and then maybe we have some

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solutions or some other discussions.

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>> Uh do you want to go first or

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not a public speaker so I just brought

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some notes? Um, I'm John Bartel. I'm CEO

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of Bartel Aviation.

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We've been operating in Sturgis since

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1983. We employ nine people and we're

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actually celebrating our 50th year being

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in business.

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Like to thank all of you for allowing me

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to speak here tonight. Appreciate it

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very much.

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Um,

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I'm here to enlighten you the issues

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that I'm experiencing,

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not to point fingers or pick on people,

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but hopefully with the idea that if you

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have the information, we can move

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forward together as a team and fix

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stuff.

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Um, the city is extremely dysfunctional

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uh when it comes to providing routine

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business services.

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Examples are transferring property

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ownership. So, your assessor department

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has a problem.

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Um, I have a hanger

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that was uh I inherited from my mother

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and um

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I can't obtain an airport land lease,

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right? So, typically on airport

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property, you own a building, personal

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property, but you rent land from the

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city for that and there's a fee

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associated with that.

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And the other issue we have problems

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with is

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we can't complete airport improvements

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um

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to get started.

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The one question I have for all of you

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being a citizen paying taxes

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is if I go through multiple layers of

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management. This is not to throw people

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under the bus because everybody was nice

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to me but nothing gets done. Examples

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um the airport manager. Uh I met with

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Ken

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and the former city manager. If all

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three of those leadership roles fail,

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what are we supposed to do as citizens

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to get help?

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Do do we have a protocol for that?

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I can tell you that after I went through

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the top layers of command

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and this is not a situation where I'm

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supporting any one person is I remember

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my dad having problems. He used to re

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reach out to like John Bran to get

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things done. I reached out to the mayor

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and explain the situation and he did

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express interest in helping. So there

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was a meeting with the airport manager,

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the mayor and the city manager. Um, and

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mayor, was the only one that followed up

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to see if things were getting done. I

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had to keep telling them no.

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>> Um, the land lease that I started to try

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to obtain, I'm on my 13th month trying

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to get one from the city of Stures.

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whoever's going to run the various

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departments needs to assign people to do

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things. Ken would meet with me, was very

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nice and compassionate when I had issues

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with different situations, but I don't

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think Ken was in a position where he

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could actually help me even though he

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was nice and met with me.

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how do we run our business in the town

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is the concern that I have. um the

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dysfunctionality that I have witnessed

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and the um horrific experience I had

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with the assessor department which was

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only going to cost me more money because

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something was coming on cap made me put

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a half a million dollar expansion on

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hold indefinitely until either people

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get cleaned out or management decides

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hey we don't want to run our city like

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this anymore we want to be nice to our

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taxpaying citizens we want to grow

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business and we want to get things on.

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so where I need help is I need to get a

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land lease.

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The airport manager can't get it done.

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It's not Ken's responsibility. He just

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met with me. I started to meet with

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Andrew. We had a general game plan in

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place, but he didn't execute either.

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The simplest process for the commission

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to think about is to let my attorney,

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Bodman Law Firm, meet with the city

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attorney. The city attorneys used to do

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airport land leases. Let the two

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attorneys work it out.

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approval. Then we might be able to take

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a step forward.

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airports work or the land leases. It

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doesn't make make you dumb or

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incompetent. But that guy knows how to

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do it and so does my attorney.

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And then instead of waiting another 13

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months to get it done, okay, we get

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something done in two weeks.

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» Do land leases typically need to come to

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us in the first place, TJ, am I missing

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something?

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>> They are approved by the city

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commission.

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>> Because this Mr. Bartell's correct. So

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the way it works is and under the the

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the [clears throat] city has to own the

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property meaning the dirt in the land in

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which those buildings sit on. Um a lot

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of those out there um Mr. Barthel's

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correct he actually built in per you

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know their company built and improved

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those um buildings and they pay a land

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lease. So they lease the dirt underneath

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and then they're taxed for the

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improvements that they make. I mean

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there's restrictions and in the lease it

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and it requires that it be aviation

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related public you know it's inferred

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that a lot of those will be um for

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public benefit public um you know it

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meets those criteria but yes the once

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the leases are done it's like any other

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lease in which the city has an interest

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the commission ultimately has to approve

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them or give the city manager

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authorization to execute the lease

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to his last question. I'm sure you both

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will get together at some level and get

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down a path of approval.

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I don't know what next steps are. I

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guess that's the elephant in the room

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question. A third question. Uh

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or maybe an observation.

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Uh I I'm not sure what you mean about

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property transfer.

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uh deeds as far as a property transfer

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as far as I know would go through the

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register of deeds. But are you talking

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about the followup forms

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>> You're talking about the forms that go

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along with the sale

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>> that go to the

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>> transferring the the ownership of the

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property so that the tax role entity

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that gets assigned to that property for

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the taxes and responsibility can get

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city. So what's okay changing hands is

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land is how we it's defined and so okay

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>> there's ownership but it's different

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than selling a house.

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>> So you don't go through a registered

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deeds and title and all that stuff.

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>> Okay. I didn't I didn't know what you

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were referring to exactly but

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>> strictly meet with the assessor say hey

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the property has changed. fill out a

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form and try to get things accomplished.

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That took over a year to get done.

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>> How is that possible?

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>> I mean, I know Dale to be responsive

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quickly. So, I don't know what the

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missing link is. Dale, I've never seen

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an assessor go to

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uh his or her his or her bodies that

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they represent like Dale does. Uh I've

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never seen it. So I I don't know the

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have spent 20,000 so far on attorney

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fees trying to get property titles

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changed as well as getting a land lease.

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What we don't want to do is hash out all

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the little things. What we could do down

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the road maybe is meet again we want to

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go into it further go into a certain

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topic and come up with a plan to become

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better.

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So, so John, just to clarify, we you we

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you you had scheduled the meeting with

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uh Andrew and I on February 11th,

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and after that meeting concluded, Andrew

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said he needed two weeks and it would be

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resolved. And then I've been checking up

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>> Yeah, it was never resolved. And the

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airport manager, I met with him in July,

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a year ago,

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a good human. I think the city has too

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much on his plate, meaning he can't be

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an airport manager and then run the

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whole municipality maintenance. And I

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don't even know what his title is

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exactly, but I'm not throwing him in

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under the bus. But we don't have enough

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help to conduct business in an efficient

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way.

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And I'm saying we because I'm not

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pointing people out and saying you're

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bad. I'm just telling you we're

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dysfunctional. When you run a business,

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you got to figure [clears throat] out

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what's wrong and fix it. And here's an

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example. Another example. Our airport

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needs help.

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Does anybody here know how much money we

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received in grants in February of 2025?

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>> Safety does.

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>> Zero.

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>> $378,000

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from the MD to improve our airport.

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$150,000 to rehabilitate six tea

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hangers.

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Now, when we rehabilitate those six tea

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hangers, then the city can get revenue

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off those tea hangers because you can

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put airplanes in them and rent them.

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We received $92,000 for a 17 ft finish

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mower and snowblower attachment. I do

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not know if we got those or not. We

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might have. The hangers have not been

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fixed.

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We received $90,000 for a new fuel farm

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credit card processing

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equipment,

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which would allow the city to sell more

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fuel. They make about a buck a gallon.

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doesn't work because of the technology

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and the ground wires.

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And we receive $46,000 for surface and

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pavement joint ceiling because we have

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4.5 in cracks at the airport and a

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beacon upgrade, which is the light that

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flashes in the evenings or the dark so

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you can find the airport. The beacon's

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been out two years.

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We have done none of that maintenance.

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So my question as a taxpayer is why.

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So if Tom's not getting it done, again,

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not throwing him under the bus, who is

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responsible for Tom or to give him help

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to get this done? Because all we got to

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do is get two quotes, I believe, do the

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work and then turn in the paperwork to

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the state and we get reimbursed. It's

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free money.

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$378,000

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doesn't make any sense to me. So I need

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help with that. How do we fix that?

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The last thing or my idea and then I'll

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be finished is I have formed a KUR

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municipal airport association. That

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association is going to be made up of

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business owners, pilots, aircraft

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owners, hanger owners, and people use

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the airport.

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My idea, if the city commission would be

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receptive to it, is to give us once a

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month time at the work session so we

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could report to you what the issues are

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still outstanding. Or I can get members

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of my association, the team to help the

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city facilitate and get things done.

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Meaning if someone we need to get two

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quotes to fill cracks to get rid of

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weeds that are two foot tall out there

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with the city's commission's approval.

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We could say okay that person from the

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association is going to go get the two

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quotes under this direction and this

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format and then we bring it to you and

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then the commission can say yes we'll do

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this bid or that bid and we actually get

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something done. We just don't have

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enough people in charge that

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manage things well.

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Um,

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that's all I have for right now. I mean,

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I could go on and on and on. If anybody

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wants to meet with me personally or go

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out to the airport, I'd be happy to show

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them. But do you have any questions for

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me tonight?

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>> Yes, sir.

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>> I have one. Thanks for being here

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tonight, John.

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>> Um, the land lease, you said it's been

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13 months you've been trying to do. Is

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that is that because of is that any way

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related to

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a building that's on it currently?

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>> Yeah. So

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>> because there needs to be things done

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with that before a lease can be

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processed here.

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>> So we have had a land lease for years

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because we've been operating on it here

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>> for our north building, our north

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hanger.

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>> The problem with that land lease is both

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my parents are now deceased.

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So that land lease should reflect who is

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owner of the personal property.

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The leases are standardized,

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so there's not a lot to fix on them or

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change because you have to treat

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everybody the same due to due to

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accepting federal and state money.

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So,

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if the city management at the time, all

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the different people I've worked with

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would have said to TJ and given him

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direction to work with my attorney,

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those two guys would have had that done

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in about a day. And then they would have

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brought it to the city commission. They

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would review it with you. Here is what

361
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the proposal is or what we're going to

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do. Here's a new entity. Do you approve

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or disapprove?

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>> So, we're just talking about a lease

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>> transfer from your parents to you,

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>> right? But I have to change some things

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in that lease

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slightly.

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We're going to change the footprint a

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little bit because the footprint we have

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had for years was based on the cur curse

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company. They owned the building before

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us. In the old days with working with

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the airport, the city really didn't care

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too much about the airport. So, they

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would just pass on the lease and

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whatever curse was renting, you rent, so

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on and so forth. The rule is 10 foot

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outside the building.

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And I'm I'm leasing much more than that.

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So, I'm requesting a little bit smaller

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footprint so that my lease is consistent

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with the other leases on the airport.

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But, I mean, that's a fivem minute

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change. The only other thing I'm looking

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at doing is getting my land lease set

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up. So when I do my operating agreement

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down the road, which is a separate

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document, right? So, I'm in the business

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of providing services. There's an out

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there's agreement that the city allows

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me to do that so that when I retire or

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at some point if my son takes over the

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business or employees take over the

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business that we have the ability to

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either transfer that lease or have some

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leeway where we just want to rent the

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building to somebody else other than

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myself. So right now the land lease the

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way it works is I own the personal

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property personally

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and then I subleasase to Bartell

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aviation and the com and the city has

404
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approved that because it's really one

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and the same. But let's say you wanted

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to buy my business but I'm not my

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buildings and I want to let you lease my

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building

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>> and run the business.

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There's no provisions to allow me to do

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that at this time. So, we're trying to

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make it so that down the road, if we

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take the effort and time to get all this

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done, that it's a simple process for the

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commission to approve down the road. And

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I'm not trying to do anything that

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favors me.

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Just want to get it done and so simple

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and fair.

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>> Is the one thing is the one thing that's

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holding it up that changing of the lot?

422
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>> No, it's just lack of execution by your

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management.

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>> I mean, is that is that a hanging sticky

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point in it?

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>> There's no sticky point.

427
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And I've got emails I can share with you

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with Andrew and he's already approved

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the the the size. He just wanted time to

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measure it to make sure it was accurate

431
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or close. Um,

432
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no, it's just lack of execution by your

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city manager and uh your airport

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manager.

435
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>> Well, I'm only hearing one. I mean, I'm

436
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hearing one side which is yours. I

437
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haven't heard anything else. So, I'm

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like I've still got a lot of questions,

439
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but I don't I don't I don't really

440
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understand. It seems like it should be

441
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simple for what it

442
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>> should be simple. And in Tom's defense,

443
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who is your airport manager,

444
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it's out of his wheelhouse to be

445
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involved in a land lease.

446
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It's that guy's job.

447
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>> And then he says, "Yes, this is ethical,

448
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doesn't violate anything that would hurt

449
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the city," and explains it to you, and

450
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then you approve it. It's really

451
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straightforward and simple. It's just we

452
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don't have the right people

453
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moving things forward. Simple yes or no

454
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TJ will suffice, but have you been

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approached with any things yet? Yes,

456
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>> I'm aware. So, it started different. It

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started as a tax assessor issue on the

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transfer. It did turn into a lease

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modification.

460
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I don't get involved with the leases

461
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till after the city department generally

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send it to me for review. So I don't

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review them until because I generally

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wait for the city departments to put

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their input in on all things and then I

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review them because what I don't want to

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do is review something and then have the

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city go well wait a minute there's other

469
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issues that need to be put here. So

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generally I once all input is there I

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then do the final review on behalf of

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the city.

473
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>> You don't do lease modification. those

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two words. Does that anything to do with

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the changing of the is that

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>> I'm not saying that I don't do those,

477
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but all of the modification languages in

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the city department will still have to

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be ready for me to review them. Um, and

480
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so

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I can agree to disagree with some of the

482
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things in in in terminology that's been

483
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used. Um but yes, I don't think that

484
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it's a complicated process to transfer

485
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ownership um or to transfer the named

486
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entity on one of those leases from one

487
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party. That's happens all the time.

488
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These leases are generally cannot be

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more than 50 years. Most of the time

490
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they're 20. Um they're they're long-term

491
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leases and something happens in the

492
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interim. I think that's what John's

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alluding to. This lease started back

494
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when his dad took it from Kersh Company

495
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and they just assigned the lease from

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Kersh Company to Bartel. And so whatever

497
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was in the original, it just continues

498
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like making a copy of a copy at times.

499
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It becomes antiquated and maybe not

500
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necessarily reflecting what is actually

501
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on the premise right now. So if there's

502
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been expansions that were done over time

503
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and not

504
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put to paper or reductions, it's it's

505
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not maybe reflecting in the actual lease

506
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in which um John's talking about. So, I would agree that a fresh look at any

507
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of those when you're trying to do

508
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secession planning as a business owner

509
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is important. Um, but again, I think all

510
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of these are very fact specific. Every

511
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single lease out there is a little bit

512
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different as far as what the use is.

513
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They're uniform leases because they have

514
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to be. So, the thing we have to be

515
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careful of as the city is I can't take a

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lease that the Bartell Aviation puts

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forth if it's

518
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different and key provisions from all

519
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,760
other leases out there. Now they have

520
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,320
some unique advantage or different lease

521
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and I don't believe that you know from

522
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my brief discussions I don't think

523
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that's what the requests are but that

524
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does have to be looked at. So in these

525
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,799
leases some of them are old and so the

526
00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:57,600
language is a little bit uh

527
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>> older and and again we have to look at

528
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all those things. So

529
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>> so just not as simple as his attorney

530
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,400
getting with you and getting it done.

531
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,360
you you need certain things from staff

532
00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:08,799
before you can do what you need to do.

533
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And does staff work with another

534
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,520
attorney on that part of stuff?

535
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>> No.

536
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>> Okay.

537
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>> No. So, [snorts] generally staff when

538
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they're ready and say, "We're we're

539
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good. Um, this is our concerns. Here are

540
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the issues we may have or here are the

541
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things that we may have. I can take a

542
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look at those and incorporate those into

543
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my review." My uh my attorney had

544
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prepared the lease. Andrew has reviewed

545
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it and then there were some questions

546
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that he had and he had he said that he

547
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had to review it with council to make

548
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,159
sure it's okay. He [clears throat]

549
00:20:40,159 --> 00:20:42,240
thought it was okay in principle, but he

550
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,960
wanted that final approval.

551
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,320
I [clears throat] don't think Andrew

552
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,640
asked TJ or any other attorney that the

553
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,080
city may work with for that guidance.

554
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,320
So, if the commission I don't want to

555
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,960
step on TJ either, but if the commission

556
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,840
would grant approval for TJ to work with

557
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,080
my attorney to finish up the lease, it's

558
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,200
95% there.

559
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,960
I'm sure he can say in the if there's

560
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,320
something in that lease in the city, he

561
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,000
can say, you know, this is not in our

562
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,520
interest. We don't want to do this or I

563
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,200
advise against that. But there's nothing

564
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,720
in that lease that gives anybody a

565
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,400
competitive advantage. That's what he's

566
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,320
talking about. So, when Kuscornney was

567
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,520
here, I had to fix all the leases then.

568
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,120
They were all different. One guy paid

569
00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:24,480
three cents a square foot. Another guy

570
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,000
paid nine cents because he was outside

571
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,840
of town. I fixed all that stuff years

572
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,480
ago. Reason I fixed that is that if you

573
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,360
got caught with that, the federal

574
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:34,559
government and state government could

575
00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:36,240
make the city pay back every nickel they

576
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,480
got in federal and state funds because

577
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,039
it's discriminatory or giving AFBO a

578
00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:42,559
competitive advantage over another one.

579
00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:44,400
That's what TJ's explaining to you.

580
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,480
There's nothing in that lease that does

581
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,720
that. That would be more of an operating

582
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,159
agreement situation because the land

583
00:21:52,159 --> 00:21:56,549
lease rates are already set.

584
00:21:56,559 --> 00:21:58,000
» So that's what I need help with. If the

585
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,200
city would allow him to work with my

586
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,400
attorney, I think we can get it done

587
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,600
pretty quickly.

588
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,200
>> So, okay, go ahead.

589
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,200
>> Just want to make sure that I I'm

590
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,799
understanding all of this. First thing

591
00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:11,120
is because of this, we have a loss of

592
00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:12,320
development

593
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,640
>> 100%. I don't feel comfortable.

594
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,039
>> Okay. The uh the other thing is there

595
00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:18,640
were numerous grants that you had

596
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,120
mentioned minus the equipment

597
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:22,400
>> which we may have already got.

598
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,640
>> Are any of those done finished?

599
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,480
>> No, those grants

600
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,600
>> they they have not

601
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,960
>> none of those you mentioned.

602
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:29,840
>> They have never been done.

603
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,640
>> Okay.

604
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,960
>> Just a second. And then one of those

605
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,799
actually you're saying would be an

606
00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:37,840
increase of revenue for gas for fuel

607
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,720
>> if we were to do the credit processor.

608
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,320
>> Well the credit card we have one but a

609
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,760
lot of times it's down. It doesn't work.

610
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,200
Therefore, you couldn't sell fuel on a

611
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,559
credit card.

612
00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:47,440
>> Okay.

613
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,280
>> And then we have six tea hangers that

614
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,960
need to be rehabilitated and we have

615
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,600
money assigned to those, which means the

616
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,120
city, if they rented all six, they could

617
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:56,400
get more revenue.

618
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,600
>> You didn't mention it, but a couple

619
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,360
months ago it came to our attention that

620
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,520
jet fuel was a problem, but I understand

621
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,559
that's been taken care of.

622
00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:03,840
>> I believe that's been resolved.

623
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:04,480
>> Jet fuel.

624
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,760
>> Yep. That's been resolved.

625
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,919
>> And then the other thing is um you

626
00:23:07,919 --> 00:23:09,840
mentioned about one of those projects

627
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,440
with the beacon light we haven't had for

628
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,200
two years. My question, maybe it's

629
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,559
unfair to ask any of you here, but I'm

630
00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:19,200
curious, not having that, has that been

631
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,760
a problem for any of our businesses or in any way, shape, or form?

632
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,200
>> I don't know if it'd be a problem for a

633
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,880
business because it's nightflying, but

634
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,200
that beacon would identify the airport.

635
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:34,400
So, the only savior that we have had is at last

636
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,840
>> because that building lights up. that

637
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,840
bill,

638
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,840
but I I have put a call into the

639
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,679
Michigan Aeronomics Commission um the

640
00:23:43,679 --> 00:23:46,880
head person and my plan was to discuss

641
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,559
the issues that we have here that we

642
00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:51,679
discussed tonight and see if they also

643
00:23:51,679 --> 00:23:54,480
could put pressure to help us get it

644
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,159
fixed.

645
00:23:56,159 --> 00:23:57,840
I'm guessing that they won't be real

646
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,520
happy when they find out that we've had

647
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,360
money for a beacon and hasn't been fixed

648
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,280
for two years.

649
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,799
We had similar problems with runway

650
00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:08,240
lights that wear out for a long time.

651
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,200
>> Wouldn't a beacon be required?

652
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,240
>> Yes,

653
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,440
>> it is. Okay.

654
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,960
>> So, what's the what do we know what the

655
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,320
hold up for the beacon is?

656
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,011
>> Yes.

657
00:24:20,011 --> 00:24:20,320
[clears throat]

658
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,350
>> Um

659
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:28,400
during remember Dodge

660
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,039
Department of Government Efficiency.

661
00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:34,559
>> Yeah. Right after that, there was a hold

662
00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:37,360
put on all federal and state grants,

663
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,000
especially federal. Michigan Aeronautics

664
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,000
receives most of its monies from

665
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,559
the FAA.

666
00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:48,720
Right after the Department of Government

667
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,760
Efficiency identified all of the

668
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,919
different funding sources, they put a

669
00:24:53,919 --> 00:24:56,080
freeze on everything.

670
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:04,240
Earlier this week, we were just notified that money has just now become

671
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,669
available.

672
00:25:07,679 --> 00:25:11,760
According to Tom is that he was notified

673
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,400
that we can proceed with all of those

674
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,600
grant projects that were frozen because

675
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:23,350
of funds that were frozen to us.

676
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:24,480
» Thank you.

677
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,600
>> Okay. I know I know there's I know

678
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,200
Gayen, you requested the meeting. And I

679
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,080
know you you you you want to stop talk

680
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,559
as well, but it's 5:30 and I don't want

681
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:36,159
to take away from you, John.

682
00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:37,120
>> We can't

683
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:38,720
>> because I'm respectful of that, but I

684
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,799
just want to make sure Gayen has a

685
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:42,080
chance to speak. Okay.

686
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,760
>> Yeah.

687
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,880
>> So, are we Who's going to follow up with

688
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,559
Mr. John Bartell?

689
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:51,679
>> I can't Terry. Okay. All right. So, our

690
00:25:51,679 --> 00:25:53,360
new interim city manager will be in

691
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:54,080
contact with

692
00:25:54,080 --> 00:26:00,470
>> What we'll do, this is my card.

693
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,520
What we'll do

694
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,679
>> put in place your attorney, have him

695
00:26:05,679 --> 00:26:08,559
call TJ. Any other details that we want

696
00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:11,840
to go f further with? Then you and I can

697
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,840
sit down and talk about it. Um,

698
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,640
again, TJ is the person. He doesn't need

699
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,440
my permission for your attorney to talk

700
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,480
to one another.

701
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,760
>> That's very helpful. I appreciate you

702
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,480
very much. That's where we stand.

703
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,279
>> Thank you.

704
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:31,360
John. Appreciate you. Uh I

705
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,600
like your uh opening comment in which

706
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,240
you were not here to beat anybody up,

707
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,559
but if anything we can do to help,

708
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:41,360
that's what we're here for. Thank you.

709
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,000
>> Just just to clarify, so the the grants

710
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,400
were awarded, but the cash was simply

711
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,360
not received.

712
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,600
>> It wasn't. That's correct. The grants

713
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,919
were awarded, but the the funds were

714
00:26:51,919 --> 00:26:52,640
frozen,

715
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,080
>> which are two different things.

716
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:54,400
>> Yes.

717
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,880
>> Yeah. because I recall Tom had presented

718
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,960
a while ago about grant money that but I

719
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,120
guess I didn't realize that it had been

720
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:07,830
not allowed to be used.

721
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,000
» Oh gosh, it probably was probably close

722
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,039
to a year ago.

723
00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:14,240
>> Spring of last year.

724
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,039
>> Um, does that money have a sunset and

725
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:19,440
when it needs to be used that far as

726
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,720
well?

727
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,799
>> Oh, I'm sure it does. Most grants you

728
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:26,000
have to have a glo a grant closeout

729
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,559
period where Michigan Aeronautics has to

730
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:31,919
come in review audit what we've done to

731
00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:34,000
make sure that we use the money in

732
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,559
accordance with what they said we were

733
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:37,600
supposed to do with it.

734
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,279
>> But if they give you like two years to

735
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:41,600
do projects [music] and we're wasted a

736
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,520
year by this being shut down, is that

737
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320
clock start or does it pause as well?

738
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,159
>> I'm not quite certain, but I know that

739
00:27:48,159 --> 00:27:50,080
Tom's ready to go on a lot of this

740
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,710
stuff.

741
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,600
Thank you.

742
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,320
>> I am Gayen Giggley. Uh I'm on the

743
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,480
airport advisory comm uh board and uh we

744
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,399
love our airport. We love our city.

745
00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:09,600
Thank you all for being here. And like

746
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,120
John said, we're not here to beat

747
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:12,559
anybody up. We're just here to

748
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:15,440
enlighten, to show you what's going on

749
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,120
so that you're aware of what's happening

750
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:18,799
at the airport so that we can

751
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:20,480
proactively

752
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,399
get together and make things happen and

753
00:28:22,399 --> 00:28:24,880
make it work for everyone and and make

754
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,240
the city successful as a whole. And

755
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,080
again, Tom uh when Andrew took the city

756
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,640
manager position, he put Tom in. Tom

757
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,080
went to work. He he had to learn on the

758
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,440
fly because he didn't know anything

759
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,919
about airports. And I commend him for

760
00:28:41,919 --> 00:28:43,600
putting the time and effort in and

761
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,000
learning the stuff that he needed to do.

762
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,760
And then as time progressed, uh, he got,

763
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,919
as with everyone that does a good job,

764
00:28:51,919 --> 00:28:53,840
they keep getting more and more put onto

765
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,640
them. And what I seen was Tom just kept

766
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,480
getting overloaded with more and more

767
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,440
responsibilities and less time put at

768
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,760
the airport. So, it's nothing to do with

769
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,679
Tom and his fault. It's just he's

770
00:29:05,679 --> 00:29:07,679
overworked and couldn't put the time and

771
00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:10,720
effort in to uh get the things done that

772
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,240
needed to be done at the airport. We

773
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:17,520
feel um in my case, I wanted to build a

774
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,080
facility at the airport. I spent about a

775
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,279
year and a half uh trying to get a

776
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:25,279
building put up there and it was just

777
00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:28,880
one barrier after the other and uh and

778
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,080
then there was no clear path forward.

779
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,799
Finally got to the point trying to get a

780
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,279
permit uh submitted everything that

781
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:39,679
wasn't good enough. Fulfilled all the

782
00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:42,159
requests that wasn't good enough. Uh it

783
00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:43,919
was just one thing after the next and

784
00:29:43,919 --> 00:29:46,399
just more and more put on. Uh so it was

785
00:29:46,399 --> 00:29:48,159
very

786
00:29:48,159 --> 00:29:49,840
uh

787
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,720
unorganized as far as how to proceed.

788
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,679
And um I tried to get a builder to build

789
00:29:55,679 --> 00:29:58,320
here. Unfortunately,

790
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,399
I had to contact three builders because

791
00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:01,919
two builders wouldn't build in the city

792
00:30:01,919 --> 00:30:03,440
of Sturgeis because they won't work with

793
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,960
the building department here in the

794
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,799
city. That's sad because how do you grow

795
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:10,399
in the city and how do you build

796
00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:12,240
structures? How do you get more tax

797
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,559
revenue? How do you do that if you don't

798
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:17,919
have a progrowth building department?

799
00:30:17,919 --> 00:30:19,919
So, there's a lot of barriers there. I

800
00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:22,080
could go into a lot of details there,

801
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,399
but it was basically a year and a half

802
00:30:24,399 --> 00:30:26,240
and nothing happened. I canceled the

803
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,159
project because there was too much

804
00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:30,720
uncertainty and I didn't want to proceed

805
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,039
anymore and the cost was just getting

806
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:36,000
out of hand because the engineering I

807
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,679
did get wasn't good enough. It don't

808
00:30:37,679 --> 00:30:39,120
look good enough. I want more

809
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,039
engineering. I want this. I want that.

810
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:43,440
And it just it got out of hand. So, I

811
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,480
canceled the project. So, I did submit a

812
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,480
foyer request on May 26th. Um,

813
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,880
unfortunately the city has not responded

814
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,520
to that request other than Andrew said

815
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,760
he's working on it and that's the only

816
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,480
thing that I got back from the city.

817
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,159
According to the state, it's 10 days

818
00:31:04,159 --> 00:31:07,039
to respond to a foyer request and then

819
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,600
with at least the avenue forward on how

820
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,159
we proceed there. But I'm just trying to

821
00:31:12,159 --> 00:31:14,320
get a little bit more information on the

822
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,399
building department and how it operates

823
00:31:16,399 --> 00:31:19,279
and some of the concerns there. So maybe

824
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:21,120
we can work together and fix that

825
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,480
building department so that we can grow

826
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,720
the city. I know of at least four

827
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,399
different building projects that were

828
00:31:28,399 --> 00:31:31,360
cancelled on the airport. Four, my

829
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,320
project alone in the next 30 years would

830
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,120
have created $200 to $250,000 worth of

831
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,200
lease revenue and personal property tax

832
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,840
for the city. That's just mine. So,

833
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,080
we're talking well over a million of

834
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,399
dollars worth of city revenue that's

835
00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:49,440
lost because they can't build. So, there

836
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,360
is a problem there. We need to fix it.

837
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,840
I'm happy to work with anybody, answer

838
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,480
any questions on that and how we can

839
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,799
proceed. I'm not new to building. I

840
00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:01,120
developed over 25,000 square feet on the

841
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,399
Hastings airport since 2011.

842
00:32:04,399 --> 00:32:07,039
And it's very simple process. You submit

843
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:09,039
your plans. You go in a week later. we

844
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:10,480
had our permits and we build the

845
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,720
building. It's not like that here in

846
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,960
Sturgis and a lot of the builders will

847
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,519
tell you the same thing. So that we need

848
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:20,320
to fix that so that we can grow, we can

849
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,960
expand, we can build more buildings and

850
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,799
together we can make our community

851
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:27,039
better. That's what it's about. And I

852
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,039
thank Frank for sitting down with me

853
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:30,960
back when this was all going down. He

854
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,600
heard some of my concerns.

855
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,360
um he's willing to sit down with

856
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,559
citizens and listen to them and

857
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:41,440
everybody's been nice throughout the

858
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,159
process. Uh it's just we can't get

859
00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:46,159
anything done. So it's frustrating in

860
00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:50,559
that regard. But

861
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:52,480
I'm willing to work with you guys and if

862
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,720
you have any questions

863
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,320
free to answer them.

864
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,799
>> Any questions for Gab?

865
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,279
is you're pro you're not

866
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:02,960
>> yeah no I'm not I'm not going to build

867
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,799
here with the uncertainties of the

868
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,200
building department and the demands and

869
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,880
the and the uncertainties meaning if I

870
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,480
start this project there's going to be

871
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,640
even additional demands it could even

872
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,760
happen in fact the last time I spoke

873
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:26,480
here and was cut short I got emails and flooded with people that

874
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,279
experienced the same thing And in fact,

875
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,279
one of the architects engineers that you

876
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,360
know very well emailed me and said he'll

877
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,880
never do business in the city of

878
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,039
Sturgeis because his projects even

879
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:38,880
though they're engineering everything

880
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,279
can change in the middle of the project.

881
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:43,200
Building department will come out and

882
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,279
say no, we want this re-engineered that

883
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,440
done and cost tens of thousands of

884
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,640
dollars more for the project than when

885
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,600
it was officially when it was uh permit

886
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,919
was given to begin with. So they'll

887
00:33:55,919 --> 00:33:57,600
never do work here again. There's

888
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,919
multiple builders that'll never do work

889
00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:02,399
in Sturgis until it's fixed. So, we got

890
00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:07,120
to fix it. Um, so that we can grow.

891
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,839
And it's not I think it's maybe some

892
00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:11,919
insecurities on the building department

893
00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:13,679
side or something. I don't know what it

894
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:16,639
is, but you have to make a pathway

895
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,919
that's easy for the It's not about they

896
00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:21,919
hide behind the codes and all the other

897
00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:23,440
stuff, but it's not about building to

898
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,040
the code. Everybody wants to build to

899
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,560
the code. We want to build safe

900
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,879
building. Everybody's going to do that.

901
00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:31,119
It's all the other things that are that

902
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,599
are the gray areas that they have

903
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:35,679
discretion over that they can make it

904
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:40,960
very painful or or easy to work with.

905
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,879
So that's where we're at.

906
00:34:42,879 --> 00:34:44,240
>> Did you say though I think you're

907
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:46,800
forgetting on top of commissioner would

908
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,960
like to hear

909
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,000
you presented your plans.

910
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,599
building department came back and said

911
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:56,000
you need to pitch these things. We did

912
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,880
that changed the engineering submitted

913
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,480
again and then he wanted to change

914
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,359
things again.

915
00:35:01,359 --> 00:35:02,000
>> Yeah,

916
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,839
>> that's the uncertainty. So when you

917
00:35:03,839 --> 00:35:06,079
fulfill all the request and then there's

918
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:08,400
a whole blanket more of request. So then

919
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,240
you sit down and they come up with other

920
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:13,839
ideas. It's almost like so for instance

921
00:35:13,839 --> 00:35:17,119
the uh site plan. So we we spend tens of

922
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:19,280
thousands of dollars on a new ALP which

923
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,400
is their airport layout plan. We use uh

924
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,359
engineering firm to do that. But Tom

925
00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:27,359
submitted the documents to the FAA for

926
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:29,200
the height, elevation, the lighting, and

927
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,599
all of that. We had a we had a basically

928
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:33,920
a site plan, but that wasn't good

929
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,839
enough. You're going to have to spend

930
00:35:35,839 --> 00:35:38,560
four or 5,000 on an engineered site plan

931
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,359
because I want to see this, this, and this when it was fine for

932
00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:45,760
anything else. But so the first list of

933
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,760
12 things that I had to come up with, I

934
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,839
did all of those, sat down. Then there

935
00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:51,760
was another list that wasn't good

936
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,200
enough. So we had to come up with

937
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,040
another five to seven things. So it's

938
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,839
just never ending and there's no clear

939
00:35:57,839 --> 00:36:02,000
path and it's just the cost to build a

940
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,560
basically a pole barn in the city of

941
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,359
Sturgis is too high. You can't do it.

942
00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:11,839
So it's just

943
00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:14,640
frustrating in that regards. So unless

944
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,800
something hap changes, I'd be happy to

945
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,040
build here. Uh I'd like to build here.

946
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,040
My home's here. Everything's here, but I

947
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,960
don't have to build. It's just something

948
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,119
that I wanted to do in the city and I

949
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:27,920
wanted to expand. I love the airport.

950
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,680
Um, there's a lot of people at the

951
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,839
airport that want to expand the airport.

952
00:36:31,839 --> 00:36:33,680
We want to build more hangers. We want

953
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,119
to create more tax revenue for the city.

954
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:39,119
We want it to grow and be a beacon in

955
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:41,440
the city. It's the gateway to our city.

956
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,480
Businesses, usually business owners or

957
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,480
larger businesses will have aircraft as

958
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,800
they fly different places. So this is

959
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,880
the gateway to our city. We have to have

960
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,240
a functional airport that is

961
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:57,040
usable and that uh people want to come

962
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,800
to.

963
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:06,150
So any questions for Gay?

964
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,800
» Thank thanks for your time,

965
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,200
>> Mr. Mayor. Um permission to approach

966
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,599
podium. Sure.

967
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:22,630
Thank you.

968
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,160
As you know, I've been here for three

969
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,680
weeks.

970
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,520
Um, I want to answer u some of the

971
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,630
concerns that were brought up tonight.

972
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,119
There's no doubt about it that

973
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:40,400
government can be somewhat frustrated.

974
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,560
But I want to point out something else.

975
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,480
Remember

976
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,760
when we drive through our community,

977
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,200
we have above average

978
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,359
housing stock.

979
00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:55,680
We have above average building

980
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,599
appearance and success. In other words,

981
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:03,040
Sturgis is a wonderful place to work and

982
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:08,150
to do business in.

983
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,040
An airport is very complicated from the

984
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,640
standpoint

985
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,599
that we have to follow strict Michigan

986
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,200
Aeronautics

987
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,520
uh code and we have to follow FAA code.

988
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,000
Okay, that means that our the land in

989
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,280
which a building is built on has to be

990
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,150
owned by the city.

991
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,400
That being the case, we've did a review,

992
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,920
a staff review of the history of

993
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:47,520
everything that was just set, all the meetings, all the permits, all

994
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,280
the applications that went through

995
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,920
somewhere in the conversation. I think

996
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,160
it was lost. The reason why we have

997
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,760
strict building codes is because this

998
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,640
city, this body has adopted a building

999
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,320
code

1000
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,480
which we adhere to. We pay Will and his

1001
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,320
team to administer that and they do an

1002
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,400
excellent job at that. Excellent. Why?

1003
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,040
Just drive around Sturgis. Take a look

1004
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,960
at our housing stock. Take a look at our

1005
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,359
businesses. Take a look at the airport.

1006
00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:32,240
Now, we're not dissuading anybody from

1007
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:35,599
doing business here. We want them to do

1008
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:38,240
business here.

1009
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,079
However,

1010
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:43,599
we do have strict standards. We own the

1011
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:45,280
land.

1012
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,079
They own the buildings. However,

1013
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,800
there could be a possibility that maybe

1014
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,760
the solution is is that we build a

1015
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,000
building and lease it back to them. Why?

1016
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,839
Because just like all of us, we have

1017
00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:02,640
limited time on this earth and it makes

1018
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,640
it easier to resell or release a

1019
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,240
building.

1020
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:09,680
Some people wouldn't be in favor of

1021
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,160
that. Maybe there's another solution is

1022
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,560
that they build a building and lease it

1023
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,880
back to us.

1024
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,040
So, I mean there's different approaches

1025
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,680
to take here that we need to explore,

1026
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,560
but I just want to and I'm not going to

1027
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,040
use I don't want to use the word defend

1028
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,960
because that probably puts us in a

1029
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,680
defensive mode.

1030
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,160
Tom and Will and the rest of the staff

1031
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,800
do an excellent job

1032
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,160
of taking care of this city.

1033
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,040
Now again somewhere in the conversation

1034
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,960
their interpretation

1035
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,680
is that it's easier to do business in

1036
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,839
Hastings. Well, we're not Hastings.

1037
00:40:53,839 --> 00:40:55,920
We have a building code that we will

1038
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,440
follow

1039
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,880
and a procedure that we will follow.

1040
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,400
And that is the right way to do things.

1041
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,440
And my belief is that Tom and Will and

1042
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,160
his and our team here have done an

1043
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,359
excellent job.

1044
00:41:13,359 --> 00:41:15,920
Perhaps maybe that conversations and

1045
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,839
those conversations should be held with

1046
00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:19,440
me

1047
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,599
since my next step is the nursing home.

1048
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:26,720
But nonetheless, I have the experience

1049
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:29,119
maybe to sit down and figure out what's

1050
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:32,560
going on. But we do have an expectation

1051
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,160
of things being built in a proper

1052
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,760
manner. And to do anything different is

1053
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,960
irresponsible on our part. And I think

1054
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,800
going forward again, if you drive down

1055
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,119
Centerville,

1056
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:51,440
look at all the businesses that are open

1057
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,079
right now. So we must be doing something

1058
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:56,720
right. There's a reason why some

1059
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,839
contractors don't want to work here.

1060
00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:02,400
I know because I've dealt with some of

1061
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,920
those contractors and some of those

1062
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,079
contractors, I wouldn't want them

1063
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:09,359
working on anything here.

1064
00:42:09,359 --> 00:42:12,319
That being said, with all respect to all

1065
00:42:12,319 --> 00:42:15,280
of our audience here tonight, we do want

1066
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,200
to communicate. We do want them to

1067
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,920
invest here, but it has to be done in

1068
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,040
accordance with what our standards are.

1069
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,800
the standards that this body set going

1070
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,599
forward.

1071
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:31,359
I'm not trying to be stern. I'm just

1072
00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:35,119
trying to be mature and thoughtful and

1073
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:39,040
also want to know that it is a serious

1074
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,640
business and making sure that the public

1075
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,400
is safe and airports are nothing that

1076
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,119
you can just skimp on.

1077
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,680
That being said, I welcome any questions

1078
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,560
or comments you might have for me.

1079
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,079
>> Any questions for

1080
00:42:56,079 --> 00:43:02,390
>> And I was an airport manager, too.

1081
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,720
» Any questions from the audience for

1082
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,319
Doug?

1083
00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:08,000
You'll be working with these gentlemen.

1084
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Then Doug to

1085
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:10,880
>> Yes, I will.

1086
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,119
>> Resolve the concerns and move forward.

1087
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:14,640
Yes, sir. Okay.

1088
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,800
>> One question I have is I'm going to

1089
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,520
agree with you that Tom is excellent. He

1090
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,800
needs help. He needs some assistance

1091
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,119
and then he can do a lot more things

1092
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:26,800
because he is very passionate about that

1093
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,319
airport. I think he's got too much

1094
00:43:28,319 --> 00:43:29,680
money. Respect.

1095
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,520
>> In three weeks that I've been here,

1096
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,440
we've already taken steps to do some

1097
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,640
reorganization and to take and rebalance

1098
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,760
some of the workload that everybody has.

1099
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,160
We're not going to stop. I just read an

1100
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,640
article today though. You know what it's

1101
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,800
like. Everybody knows what it's like to

1102
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,440
hire people to these cases.

1103
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,820
There is a shortage of actual physical

1104
00:43:51,820 --> 00:43:54,560
[snorts] bodies. Then on top of that,

1105
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,119
there's an actual shortage of physical

1106
00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:01,839
capable and willing bodies coming.

1107
00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:04,560
That's what we're struggling with the

1108
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,359
association [cough]

1109
00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:09,520
as it progresses.

1110
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,200
I'd like to meet with you and then I can

1111
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,720
guarantee you we can get you some people

1112
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:16,319
that will volunteer their time to help

1113
00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:19,680
the city to move in a positive direction

1114
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,640
>> and I think Tom is moving us in a

1115
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,119
positive direction. I think Will is and

1116
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:27,920
his team is moving us in a thoughtful

1117
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,319
>> I believe that 100%.

1118
00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:32,480
>> So it needs help

1119
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,800
>> and we're doing everything we can to

1120
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,800
balance it out. Later on in the meeting,

1121
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,920
I'll be talking about another issue

1122
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,760
concerning public safety. So, thank you

1123
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,880
for your time.

1124
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,200
>> Are you gonna give your card to Gayen?

1125
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:47,760
>> Yes, I will.

1126
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,000
>> Okay.

1127
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,079
>> One question I have on the formation of

1128
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:53,680
a committee or board or what would you

1129
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:54,480
call it? The

1130
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,280
>> association.

1131
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,359
Um is there is no issue

1132
00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:00,319
doing something like this.

1133
00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:01,680
>> It has nothing to do with the city.

1134
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,680
>> Okay. I mean, it's like it's a group of

1135
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,200
interested people that that are

1136
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:05,680
interested.

1137
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,760
>> I mean, when it comes to you,

1138
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,440
>> us res.

1139
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,920
>> No, it it would be no different than if

1140
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,680
your neighborhood decided we're going to

1141
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,680
have a community, you know, they want to

1142
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,480
come in and report, you know, ward one,

1143
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,240
this is what we see out there. You know,

1144
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:21,440
we're just reporting into the

1145
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,240
commission.

1146
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:23,520
>> But it sounds like we would be giving

1147
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,760
them direction on projects and things

1148
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,000
like this that they would be doing the

1149
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,680
leg work on where our city staff would

1150
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,040
normally be doing. We're just offering

1151
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,720
to help if you need the help and you

1152
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:35,280
can't find the people and pay them like

1153
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,880
the less that a forges

1154
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,440
>> right

1155
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,760
>> two foot tall for grass.

1156
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,440
>> Well,

1157
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,000
as you know, some of that was grants and

1158
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,520
when you're dealing with the federal

1159
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,599
government, there's a bidding procedure

1160
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:50,000
that we have to follow. There are

1161
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,319
procurement procedures that we have to

1162
00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:56,160
observe. And like on the pract

1163
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,839
I believe that was part of the grant

1164
00:45:57,839 --> 00:46:00,800
program that we got, was it not?

1165
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,640
>> That means that we have to make sure

1166
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,280
that we have the people with the right

1167
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,800
credentials

1168
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,920
and the right skills that

1169
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,960
can do that. Just can't call it asphalt

1170
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,000
deals. They have to be sort of

1171
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,599
>> I would say under your direction. We

1172
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:19,520
have people that are learning for free.

1173
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,359
Never mind. And my question is on you

1174
00:46:21,359 --> 00:46:22,640
mentioned something about you know

1175
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,240
having somebody on that association go

1176
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:25,520
get quotes for things and stuff like

1177
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,720
that. That's what I'm talking

1178
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:28,400
>> what I would what I would say is I think

1179
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,000
that they could talk and then in

1180
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,520
conjunction with the airport board work

1181
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,800
on doing that there there's a path

1182
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,680
forward with taking volunteer help.

1183
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,200
Obviously we would have to be careful to

1184
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:37,599
make sure

1185
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:39,040
>> it sounds like a great idea. I just want

1186
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,880
to make sure that procedurally policy

1187
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:41,359
wise

1188
00:46:41,359 --> 00:46:42,720
>> there's always a pathway forward if

1189
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:44,079
people want to volunteer and help. I

1190
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:46,000
mean, we have an airport board, but

1191
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,560
there's nothing stopping a group of

1192
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,720
citizens that have a common interest to

1193
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:53,119
come and say, "Hey, here here's what

1194
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:54,960
we'd like to see." Again, this they have

1195
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,480
no authority on behalf of the city just

1196
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,400
because they present things to the city.

1197
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,839
There there are certain processes and

1198
00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:01,359
procedures that the city must follow

1199
00:47:01,359 --> 00:47:03,839
based on charter and statute. Um, as

1200
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:06,240
well as here the dual role both Michigan

1201
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:09,520
Air and the FAA. Um,

1202
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,119
however,

1203
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:13,200
I don't see it as being a negative to

1204
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,040
the city. I just think we have to make

1205
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,839
sure that if it gets to that point,

1206
00:47:17,839 --> 00:47:20,319
we're very cognizant of what limitations

1207
00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:22,640
we can ask volunteers that are not part

1208
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,480
of the city and how do we incorporate

1209
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,079
those recommendations. So, I like the

1210
00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:26,800
idea.

1211
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,240
>> We just want to help.

1212
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:29,680
>> I love the idea

1213
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,800
>> and we appreciate that.

1214
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,400
>> Really 100% want to help.

1215
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,800
>> We appreciate that.

1216
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,000
Just going to have to be patient with

1217
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,280
this a little bit longer.

1218
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:45,270
>> Any other comments on the airport?

1219
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,160
» Okay, good. Thank you.

1220
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,760
>> I thought there was one more gentleman.

1221
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,800
>> Is there one more?

1222
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,920
>> Yeah.

1223
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,640
>> Oh, okay.

1224
00:47:54,640 --> 00:48:01,349
>> Did he have Doug's card?

1225
00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:06,630
Okay. Any

1226
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,960
questions for Doug before we we end the

1227
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,079
airport discussion.

1228
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:13,440
All right. Thank you, Gayla. And thank

1229
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,839
you, John, and coming out and speaking.

1230
00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:19,359
And Marty, good to see you.

1231
00:48:19,359 --> 00:48:30,950
All right. Thanks, guys. Thank you all.

1232
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,440
He said he could beat this.

1233
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,200
>> He said he he's like, "Oh, six. I'm

1234
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,880
good." And then he gets up in jacket

1235
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:59,190
quarter, too. I saw that. Yeah.

1236
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:05,109
» Facebook.

1237
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:08,549
» Well, the agenda

1238
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:13,910
we

1239
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:35,589
Okay. No. And you may not

1240
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:41,990
a whole bunch.

1241
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:48,950
But I'll make sure

1242
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,520
» somebody sing something to the

1243
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,680
collective of all of us.

1244
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,240
>> Sorry.

1245
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:58,240
>> Are they saying we have a cough?

1246
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:00,559
>> I guess [laughter]

1247
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:04,319
we all know

1248
00:50:04,319 --> 00:50:06,720
after the onions

1249
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:08,319
she's going to fix it. I don't think I

1250
00:50:08,319 --> 00:50:10,559
have the first one now. The second one

1251
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:11,839
probably

1252
00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:31,349
>> probably

1253
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:56,790
part time job.

1254
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,200
I can't

1255
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,359
>> I can'tes

1256
00:51:01,359 --> 00:51:05,910
a lot of people.

1257
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:06,880
Thank you.

1258
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,440
>> Thank you

1259
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:19,349
with electronic navigation.

1260
00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:20,480
» I don't know.

1261
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,960
>> I thought

1262
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,440
I

1263
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,480
totally messed up.

1264
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,599
>> Now last thing I want to do

1265
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,359
when you close. No,

1266
00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:46,069
>> I thought

1267
00:51:46,079 --> 00:52:08,306
you

1268
00:52:08,316 --> 00:52:09,280
» [clears throat]

1269
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:18,950
>> I can't

1270
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:24,470
have to share with you

1271
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:41,190
so mad.

1272
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:48,870
No, mine doesn't either.

1273
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:54,790
» Mine doesn't.

1274
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,829
» Does yours

1275
00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:10,870
I downloaded mine earlier.

1276
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,400
» Oh, I'm good.

1277
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,040
>> Hit the wrong button.

1278
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:27,561
Good.

1279
00:53:27,571 --> 00:53:33,510
» [snorts]

1280
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:49,832
» Let me ask you.

1281
00:53:49,842 --> 00:54:01,750
» [snorts]

1282
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,270
» No,

1283
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:18,230
I can't do that.

1284
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:24,150
Okay.

1285
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:34,790
» Yep.

1286
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:41,750
Yes.

1287
00:54:41,760 --> 00:55:01,349
» So anyway,

1288
00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:20,878
I'm interested.

1289
00:55:20,888 --> 00:55:22,950
» [laughter]

1290
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,280
» I tried. Yeah, that's what it was.

1291
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:35,990
>> Thank you for

1292
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,319
she can come sit right up here. It's the

1293
00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:42,069
press table.

1294
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:43,440
All right, we'll call this meeting to

1295
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,040
order. If you can please stand for the

1296
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:45,359
pledge of

1297
00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:48,870
>> allegiance

1298
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,359
to the flag of the United States of

1299
00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:54,160
America and to the republic for which it

1300
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,280
stands. One nation under God,

1301
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,760
indivisible, with liberty and justice

1302
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:10,710
for all.

1303
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:12,000
Commissioner Miller, would you lead us

1304
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,640
in prayer? Sure.

1305
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,799
Heavenly Father, thank you for this day.

1306
00:56:16,799 --> 00:56:19,040
Thank you for the beauty of what we've

1307
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,960
had. Um the rain, the sunshine. Thank

1308
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,480
you for what we have here in Sturgis,

1309
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,640
Michigan, for the blessings that we

1310
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,440
have. Help us to utilize it well, to

1311
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,599
take care of it for the benefit of all

1312
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:33,599
who live here.

1313
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:36,319
And may we do excellent work on the

1314
00:56:36,319 --> 00:56:39,040
resident's behalf for the good of our

1315
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,280
future, the good of those who live here

1316
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,520
now, and the good of those who will live

1317
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,799
here in years to come. Bless the

1318
00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:49,599
proceedings of tonight's meeting. And

1319
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:53,359
may we always keep in mind um working

1320
00:56:53,359 --> 00:56:56,240
with each other, working on things for

1321
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:59,119
the greater good in Jesus name. Amen.

1322
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:02,950
>> Amen.

1323
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,799
Roll call. City clear.

1324
00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:05,680
>> Commissioner Burr

1325
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:06,160
>> here.

1326
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,040
>> Commissioner Boring

1327
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:07,440
>> here.

1328
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,319
>> Commissioner Wiki

1329
00:57:08,319 --> 00:57:08,720
>> here.

1330
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:09,680
>> Commissioner Smith

1331
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:10,079
>> here.

1332
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:10,960
>> Commissioner ABS

1333
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:11,280
>> here.

1334
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,160
>> Commissioner Miller

1335
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:12,559
>> here.

1336
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:13,520
>> Vice Mayor Mullins

1337
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:13,920
>> present.

1338
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:14,799
>> Mayor Perez

1339
00:57:14,799 --> 00:57:16,559
>> here.

1340
00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:18,079
>> All right. Moving on with the agenda

1341
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:20,000
under proclamations and presentations.

1342
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,990
There's none tonight.

1343
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,000
We'll move on to uh to the visitor

1344
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,440
section. And if there's a visitor here

1345
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,440
who'd like to make a public comment for

1346
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,240
items not listed on the agenda, please

1347
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,440
approach the podium. You have two

1348
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,819
minutes to speak.

1349
00:57:35,819 --> 00:57:37,040
[snorts]

1350
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,480
>> Thanks, Mayor. Welcome.

1351
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:39,680
>> Hi, Barry Cox.

1352
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,880
>> Tonight 1421 South Marab Street,

1353
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,559
Sturgis.

1354
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:47,040
As uh most of you in this room know, I

1355
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,359
retired from the city of Sturgis on June

1356
00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:52,480
19th of this year. However, this event

1357
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,160
uh was overshadowed by a much more

1358
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,799
significant significant community event

1359
00:57:56,799 --> 00:57:59,040
that occurred uh which was the closure

1360
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,640
of Sturgis Hospital. Uh like many of you

1361
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,880
uh I was born at Sturgis Hospital and I

1362
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,200
am disappointed at its closure. So why

1363
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,880
do I bring this up tonight two months

1364
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,680
later? Well, one obviously you have an

1365
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,480
agenda item that I'm very interested in

1366
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,079
uh regarding the hospital and the bonds

1367
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:18,799
this evening. That'll come later. Uh

1368
00:58:18,799 --> 00:58:21,920
two, in review of uh utility shut off

1369
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,680
rules that were approved by commission

1370
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,160
September of 25, uh they indicate that

1371
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,920
these are only for residential

1372
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,640
properties for residential utilities,

1373
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,839
not commercials, not industrials, not

1374
00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:36,000
government entities. Just wondering why

1375
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,240
that's the case.

1376
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,319
Uh second item is I really wish it would

1377
00:58:40,319 --> 00:58:41,440
have been here for the airport

1378
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,599
discussion tonight but didn't find the

1379
00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:46,720
agenda anywhere uh on the city's

1380
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,480
communication networks uh

1381
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,520
electronically. So u missed that portion

1382
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,319
unfortunately. Um,

1383
00:58:54,319 --> 00:58:56,160
thirdly, I want to thank and I want to

1384
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,960
wish J uh Jamie

1385
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,079
Immer, last name's tough, all the best

1386
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:04,640
uh with her new endeavor and thank her

1387
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,559
for a wonderful job at the Sturdish

1388
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:08,799
Young Center for the Arts. Lastly,

1389
00:59:08,799 --> 00:59:10,720
because this is an important discussion,

1390
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,040
please make sure that the microphone is

1391
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,440
right where you're talking. Thank you.

1392
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,910
>> Thank you, Barry.

1393
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,760
Is there another any other visitor like

1394
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,079
to speak and address the commission for

1395
00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:25,920
items not listed on the agenda? You got

1396
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,480
two minutes, please state your name and

1397
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,359
address.

1398
00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:32,240
>> Hello, I'm Trina Boils. Uh, I'm the

1399
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,200
owner of Folultz Bakery on 220 West or

1400
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,960
220 West Chicago Street.

1401
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:37,359
>> Welcome.

1402
00:59:37,359 --> 00:59:40,400
>> Um, hi. I have brought some agendas

1403
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,400
because I know I only have two minutes.

1404
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,079
Um, so I brought enough I think for

1405
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:46,400
everybody to review. So me and my

1406
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:47,760
husband are here today because we would

1407
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,920
like you to review our concerns about

1408
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,559
the tree. I know that it's been an

1409
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:54,319
ongoing discussion. At least that's what

1410
00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:56,400
I hear. But I'm here today because when

1411
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,280
we've discussed it with other people, we

1412
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,119
kind of get the that's not going to

1413
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:04,240
happen. Well, I'm here today because we

1414
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,720
want to stay in Surgis. Um I love

1415
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,720
Sergis. I was a nurse practitioner here

1416
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,799
at Sturgis and I led this community and

1417
01:00:10,799 --> 01:00:12,319
it's one of the reasons we chose the

1418
01:00:12,319 --> 01:00:14,480
community not just because of that but

1419
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,400
because we had so much felt so much

1420
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,520
support from our Sturgis

1421
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,640
um members who brought us in Carrie and

1422
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,920
Eric Erica and Will they were very

1423
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,839
instrumental on our decision to be here

1424
01:00:27,839 --> 01:00:30,000
because we could really go anywhere um

1425
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,240
but we want to be in Surges. So since

1426
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,559
we've been here, you expect a business

1427
01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:36,640
and new business after the first month

1428
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,119
and after the whole like oh everybody

1429
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:41,599
wants to see you. You expect your after

1430
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:44,400
the other months do you decline 20 to

1431
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,119
30% for a business but we have they're

1432
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:50,640
up more than 50%. So we need your help.

1433
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,240
Um I have brought in this proposal there

1434
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,880
is proposals from us like suggestions of

1435
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,359
what we can do to make our signage more

1436
01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:02,799
visible. We feel like as a taxpayer in

1437
01:01:02,799 --> 01:01:04,480
Sturgis, Michigan and choosing to come

1438
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,880
here that we should have a right to have

1439
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,960
our sign visualized just as much as

1440
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,119
anybody else. So, I'm not asking you to

1441
01:01:11,119 --> 01:01:13,040
rip down every tree in Sturgis. I know

1442
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,720
that there's reasons. I know you want

1443
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,480
the aesthetics of St. Just to stay the

1444
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,960
way it is, but I think that you have to

1445
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,760
look at losing business versus the cost

1446
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,040
of a tree. So, it's it's causing us to

1447
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,640
consider losing a business, which is

1448
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,960
going to make me lose my contract as

1449
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,720
well. So I'll be in violation of my

1450
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,599
renting contract. [clears throat] Um so

1451
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:37,440
I have some of my I even put some facts

1452
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,599
compared to our Lrange folks how we've

1453
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:41,359
kind of stayed study. So the argument

1454
01:01:41,359 --> 01:01:43,920
could be that it it's economy. Well I

1455
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,000
don't believe that's all of it. Do I

1456
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,280
think that we have some things that we

1457
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,960
need to change too because the surges

1458
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,480
community asked for different things

1459
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,799
here than what we do in the graange but

1460
01:01:52,799 --> 01:01:54,480
we're so close together the numbers

1461
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,119
shouldn't be that different. Okay. So

1462
01:01:57,119 --> 01:01:58,799
anyhow I have this here. We would like

1463
01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:00,960
you to please not just throw it in the

1464
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,440
trash to actually look at it and um

1465
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,920
maybe contact us on how we can solve

1466
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,760
this and come up with a better solution

1467
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:08,160
for us.

1468
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,480
>> Okay. I would assume Doug, you'd follow

1469
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:11,040
up with it.

1470
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:11,440
>> Yep.

1471
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:12,000
>> Okay.

1472
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,507
>> Thank you.

1473
01:02:15,507 --> 01:02:15,920
[snorts]

1474
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,440
>> Is there any other visitor that like to

1475
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,599
make a public comment for items not

1476
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:21,119
listed on the agenda?

1477
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:22,559
>> Please state your name and address. We

1478
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:23,599
got two

1479
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:25,920
>> 1221 Tulip Drive. I was just inquiring

1480
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,000
about the sidewalk on the corner of Nawa

1481
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,559
and or yeah, Nawa and Congress been

1482
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:32,799
blocked since the storm. I was just

1483
01:02:32,799 --> 01:02:34,079
wondering how long it was going to take

1484
01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:37,839
to clear that sidewalk and make it

1485
01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:40,559
pedestrian safe and usable.

1486
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:42,880
>> Okay.

1487
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,920
All right. But Congress and NA. Okay.

1488
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,319
Thank you.

1489
01:02:50,319 --> 01:02:51,839
There any other visitor like to make a

1490
01:02:51,839 --> 01:02:55,040
public comment for items on not listed

1491
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,040
on the agenda?

1492
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,599
Okay.

1493
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:02,160
Next on the agenda is the approval of

1494
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,119
the agenda.

1495
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:05,680
>> So move.

1496
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,119
>> So we have a motion.

1497
01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:10,000
>> Second.

1498
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,640
>> And we have support. All in favor?

1499
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,039
>> Opposed? So move.

1500
01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:17,039
>> Next on the agenda is the approval of

1501
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:18,640
the consent agenda.

1502
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,200
>> So moved. So I have a motion,

1503
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,760
>> second and support. All in favor?

1504
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:28,319
>> I opposed. So moved.

1505
01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:29,839
>> Next on the agenda is unfinished

1506
01:03:29,839 --> 01:03:33,119
business and we have none tonight.

1507
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:34,880
So we'll move on straight to new

1508
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,720
business.

1509
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,960
Our first item on the agenda for new

1510
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,359
business is the Sturgis Hospital $3

1511
01:03:41,359 --> 01:03:44,400
million usage resolution. Miss Satie

1512
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:45,359
Griff.

1513
01:03:45,359 --> 01:03:48,240
>> Good evening, commissioners. Um the city

1514
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,240
of Sturgis building authority currently

1515
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,319
holds general obligation bonds related

1516
01:03:52,319 --> 01:03:55,520
to the Sturgis hospital project. Um the

1517
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,839
outstanding principle on those tax

1518
01:03:57,839 --> 01:04:01,440
exempt bonds is 5,445,000.

1519
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:02,960
as we discussed through the budget

1520
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,920
process and we've been advised from um

1521
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,599
our financial advisors and bond council

1522
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:13,039
um that we recommend utilizing 3 million

1523
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:15,520
of the funds that we have to call a

1524
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,359
portion of those outstanding and

1525
01:04:17,359 --> 01:04:19,680
existing bonds. This would reduce our

1526
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:24,000
principal balance down to 2,455,000

1527
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,760
um while still maintaining our current

1528
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,760
maturity date of two of 2034.

1529
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,359
So, what this does is um brings down our

1530
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:36,319
annual debt service obligation um to

1531
01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:39,200
roughly 295,000 on average over the

1532
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,400
remainder um of those bonds. So, it it

1533
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,000
gives us increased cash flow from the

1534
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:49,359
general fund as we discussed through the budget process. Um and we'd still um

1535
01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:52,160
use the state marijuana funds um as

1536
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,319
dedicated funds to paying down that

1537
01:04:54,319 --> 01:04:57,440
annual um debt service obligation. So

1538
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,240
included in your packet is a resolution

1539
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,920
um requesting the redemption of um the

1540
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,480
bonds. This would need to go through the

1541
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,200
um building authority for approval as

1542
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,440
well. But um first step is through

1543
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,440
commission.

1544
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,280
>> Question once you if

1545
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,319
>> we pay this off the average would be uh

1546
01:05:20,319 --> 01:05:22,079
$295,000

1547
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:24,960
for our annual obligation. Currently

1548
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,920
it's 700 and roughly 700,000

1549
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,160
>> $700,000. So I that wasn't stated in

1550
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:31,039
there. I just want to make sure

1551
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:32,960
everybody knew what it is currently.

1552
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,119
>> And then the other economic piece of it

1553
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:36,720
is, you know, we have that three million

1554
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,720
sitting and and earning just under 4%

1555
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,520
and our bonds are, you know, a little

1556
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:44,960
bit higher than that. So things have

1557
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,480
turned where interest rates have gone

1558
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,400
down and that's why we weren't utilizing

1559
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,559
it because we were earning more interest

1560
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:52,400
um on those funds. But things have

1561
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,720
turned where it makes more sense to

1562
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,240
utilize the 3 million currently

1563
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,280
>> and basically a $400,000

1564
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,160
less

1565
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,039
>> correct on our general fund contribution

1566
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:05,760
to it.

1567
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:06,240
>> Yeah.

1568
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,440
>> Which is just about what we've gotten

1569
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,240
the last few years for marijuana

1570
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:12,720
number.

1571
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,680
>> Yep. So what we budgeted um we we were

1572
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,559
transferring you know 300,000 in 2027

1573
01:06:18,559 --> 01:06:20,079
and I think we were budgeting a little

1574
01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:22,160
bit more from the state marijuana fund.

1575
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,319
So, um,

1576
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:26,079
>> so I guess the only conversation piece I

1577
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:28,480
would have is if it's now 295 and we

1578
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,440
have four whatever from marijuana. I

1579
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,839
mean, if this goes through the way

1580
01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:35,520
you're proposing it,

1581
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,480
>> uh, the additional 100,000 if things

1582
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,200
stay that the way they are,

1583
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,400
>> um, would we need a discussion on any of

1584
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:45,680
that?

1585
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,400
Yeah, we could um discuss whether we

1586
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,799
want to um use all the funds and

1587
01:06:50,799 --> 01:06:53,520
transfer them over and and pay

1588
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,039
additional or

1589
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:57,039
>> that be all principal at that point.

1590
01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:00,000
>> Um I believe we could I'd have to verify

1591
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,119
that but or build up and and you know

1592
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:06,400
call anything additional early. Um, so

1593
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,400
yes, we could make that decision of

1594
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,880
whether transferring the full amount or,

1595
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,799
you know, based on our our conversation

1596
01:07:12,799 --> 01:07:15,039
with the budget of the general fund. I

1597
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:17,760
think, you know, in fiscal 27, it didn't

1598
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,760
make sense to to move the full.

1599
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,039
>> So maybe next year's budget

1600
01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:21,760
conversation.

1601
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,000
>> Yeah. Yeah. looking at what what we

1602
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,240
project coming in from marijuana funds,

1603
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,079
you know, as things change or facilities

1604
01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:31,280
change within, you know, the area that

1605
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,440
those fundings can change and make a

1606
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,440
decision each year of how much we would

1607
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,000
like to transfer over.

1608
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:38,880
>> A lot better.

1609
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,200
>> That could help that downfall that we

1610
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,079
were seeing. Yeah. Yeah.

1611
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:46,720
So that new type that 295 is that what

1612
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,119
the interest acred on that too or is

1613
01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:53,119
that 295 plus the interest

1614
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:55,440
is the 295 the the payment and

1615
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:56,640
>> the total total

1616
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:57,440
>> that's the total.

1617
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,599
>> So will that change as does the interest

1618
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:02,000
rate drop as as it go

1619
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,520
>> a little bit there is in the the um back

1620
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,799
of the resolution what um Ken has on the

1621
01:08:08,799 --> 01:08:12,160
screen um it's pretty flat you can see

1622
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,440
that you know, it doesn't change wildly,

1623
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,920
right? So, that's why it was averaging

1624
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,159
that that 295. But,

1625
01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:22,080
>> yeah, my computer wasn't working, so

1626
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:22,799
>> No, you're good.

1627
01:08:22,799 --> 01:08:25,839
>> I didn't see that chart. So, all right.

1628
01:08:25,839 --> 01:08:27,120
>> Thank you. [clears throat]

1629
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,839
>> So, just to recap, because I know we

1630
01:08:29,839 --> 01:08:31,120
have a lot of visitors here. They're

1631
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,960
normal. Uh, and and so this $3 million

1632
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,159
was from the sale of the pro of the uh

1633
01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:40,880
buildings. No, it

1634
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,880
>> the $3 million was given to the city uh

1635
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,920
in consideration for um relieving

1636
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:53,679
the hospital and asker corporation from

1637
01:08:53,679 --> 01:08:55,679
any obligation on the bonds. Okay.

1638
01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:58,000
>> So, we took full responsibility of the

1639
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,679
bonds. We were always backed them. We

1640
01:08:59,679 --> 01:09:01,759
always backed the bonds. We were always

1641
01:09:01,759 --> 01:09:05,279
going to be obligated to pay those by

1642
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:08,880
releasing all of our leans against that.

1643
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,279
Um they gave us three million.

1644
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:13,359
>> Three million. Okay. Right. Okay. Just

1645
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:14,880
want to make sure that's stated so that

1646
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,199
it's not uh doesn't appear that it's

1647
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:19,440
something else. Any questions for S?

1648
01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:22,319
>> Just we we still would have to reissue

1649
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:24,400
for a different bond if it's a private

1650
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:25,520
not

1651
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,120
>> if if there was a triggering event

1652
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:28,880
turnover to the private sector.

1653
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,520
>> Yes. If if the the building sale

1654
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,520
>> if it was for a forprofit. That's what I

1655
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,600
said. So if if the hospital were to

1656
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,520
change to a nonprofit, then we would not

1657
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,440
have to. So there there are certain

1658
01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:43,520
triggering events and there are a lot of

1659
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,520
non-triggering events and so we can keep

1660
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,080
these. It's possible they will never

1661
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,480
need to be refunded. Possible. So we'll

1662
01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:53,510
see.

1663
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,000
» Any other questions?

1664
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,120
>> Okay.

1665
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,280
>> Mr. I move that the Sturgeis City

1666
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,563
Commission adopt the resolution

1667
01:10:00,563 --> 01:10:01,760
[clears throat] requesting the

1668
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,520
redemption of the city of Sturgeis

1669
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,000
building authority refunding bonds.

1670
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,280
>> So we have a motion.

1671
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,280
>> Support and support. All in favor?

1672
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,320
>> I opposed. So move.

1673
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,400
>> Thank you. Sadi.

1674
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,800
Next on the agenda is the uh annual

1675
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,320
utility rate uh approval. Uh Mr. Doug.

1676
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,880
>> Yes. Mr. Mayor and commissioners. In

1677
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,400
your agenda packet tonight is the

1678
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,840
explanation of an annual utility rate

1679
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,719
increase. This is something that we do

1680
01:10:32,719 --> 01:10:35,679
on an annual basis as a municipality is

1681
01:10:35,679 --> 01:10:38,400
review the rates. That would include

1682
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,040
electric, water, and sewer. As you can

1683
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,800
see, we're asking for a slight increase

1684
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,000
in the electric. Part of that has to do

1685
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,640
with the power cost recovery factor that

1686
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:56,960
is includes fuel and us as you know

1687
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,080
electricity es and flows. We buy

1688
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,040
periodically electricity from other

1689
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,280
providers. And so what we have to do is

1690
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,480
when we meter and then we subtract out

1691
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:13,520
what we buy from other municipalities,

1692
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:17,280
we end up having to pay that increase.

1693
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:21,360
So we're seeking about a two two cent uh

1694
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:25,280
increase in the per kilowatt hour. Um we

1695
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,960
believe that that's a responsible thing

1696
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,000
to do. Underwater and wastewater. You'll

1697
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:35,040
see that 2% in wastewater is uh we're

1698
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,400
seeking and then a 6.9. A lot of that

1699
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,520
has to do with the lead and copper rule

1700
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,199
and us replacing those lines. Um that

1701
01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:48,080
has become quite a costly venture for

1702
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,120
all municipalities in the state. So we

1703
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,400
see this as modest increases given the

1704
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,560
fact that the state of Michigan is

1705
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:01,199
mandating us to perform this work. So I

1706
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:03,040
willing to answer any questions or

1707
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,920
comments you have and would ask your

1708
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,480
honorable body for approval on this

1709
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:10,000
recommendation.

1710
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:18,630
Any questions for Doug?

1711
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,280
» Mr. Mayor, I move that the Sturgeis City

1712
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,600
Commission

1713
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,080
approve the electric rate

1714
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,880
for buildings beginning October 1st,

1715
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,800
2026 and through October 1st, 2027 is

1716
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:33,600
presented.

1717
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,760
>> So, we have a motion.

1718
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:36,640
>> Second.

1719
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,000
>> Support. All in favor?

1720
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,600
>> I opposed.

1721
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,800
>> I so moved. May I move that the Sturgeis

1722
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,320
City Commission may approve the

1723
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,480
wastewater and water rates for buildings

1724
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:49,120
beginning on October 1st, 2026 is

1725
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,239
presented.

1726
01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:51,920
>> So we have a motion.

1727
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,320
>> Second in support. All in favor?

1728
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:55,920
>> I oppos.

1729
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:56,960
>> Nay.

1730
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:03,830
>> So move.

1731
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,920
Next on the agenda is the budget public

1732
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,280
hearing. Mr. Doug Terry.

1733
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,560
>> Yes. Yes. Mr. Mayor and commissioners.

1734
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:15,360
In your agenda packet again is the um

1735
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,960
budget recap of what has been worked on

1736
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:23,040
by staff and this commission over the

1737
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,239
last few months.

1738
01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:25,280
>> Mr. Cherry, I just uh

1739
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:26,719
>> so we'll go ahead and we'll go ahead and

1740
01:13:26,719 --> 01:13:27,840
open the public hearing.

1741
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,400
>> Okay. Thanks.

1742
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,239
>> And again, this is a public hearing

1743
01:13:32,239 --> 01:13:35,120
where uh we welcome the input of our

1744
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:39,679
citizens. Um but again, this is a recap.

1745
01:13:39,679 --> 01:13:43,520
Um, I have to give kudos to Andrew uh

1746
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,960
Cook for and Sadi for their hard work.

1747
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,920
They met with the department heads um

1748
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,400
over the last six months and uh have

1749
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,199
diligently worked on this. The budget

1750
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:57,679
message is excellent that Andrew and

1751
01:13:57,679 --> 01:14:00,080
Sadi put together. I welcome any

1752
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,000
questions that I might be able to

1753
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,480
answer, but perhaps Sidi could answer

1754
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:07,440
any that you might have. Um we see this

1755
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:10,719
as a responsible budget. Last year we

1756
01:14:10,719 --> 01:14:14,000
had to go into fund balance of about a

1757
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,600
half a million dollars. This year uh we

1758
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:22,560
reduce that um down to 341,000.

1759
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,120
That's explained in the agenda packet.

1760
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,280
So we see this as a responsible

1761
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,239
approach. Um later on in the evening

1762
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:32,159
we'll under my report we'll talk about

1763
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:35,920
some staffing concerns that I have but

1764
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,719
again this is a very good budget that

1765
01:14:38,719 --> 01:14:41,840
was put together by staff along with the

1766
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:43,920
budget committee. So

1767
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,360
>> any questions for uh Mr. Doug from the

1768
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:48,880
commission

1769
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:52,000
>> before I open it to the public?

1770
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:53,679
I think it's worth asking so everybody

1771
01:14:53,679 --> 01:14:56,400
knows um we discussed it obviously

1772
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:00,000
during many budget work sessions

1773
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,719
Doug or Sadi or both of you what what's

1774
01:15:02,719 --> 01:15:06,320
our total dollar all-in cost that is

1775
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,239
known today

1776
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:10,560
as far as storm cleanup gross and that

1777
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,840
would be across multiple departments. Do

1778
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,320
we know a a number as of today

1779
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,239
>> without including internal labor cost?

1780
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:23,679
Um I think we were at when I looked last

1781
01:15:23,679 --> 01:15:26,320
um 1,ion5

1782
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,760
>> 1,ion5,000.

1783
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:28,320
>> Yep.

1784
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,880
>> And that's not complete.

1785
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:31,360
>> Oh, sure.

1786
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,159
>> No, that's not complete.

1787
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:33,679
>> But that's just known as of today.

1788
01:15:33,679 --> 01:15:34,320
>> Yes.

1789
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:35,360
>> Strictly external.

1790
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,280
>> There are there are labor costs though

1791
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,280
that would technically

1792
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:40,800
>> have been contributed to

1793
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:42,080
>> add on to the cost.

1794
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,080
>> Correct. Okay. Yeah, that I think that

1795
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:48,159
does round out most of our mutual aid um

1796
01:15:48,159 --> 01:15:49,920
billings in there.

1797
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,960
>> Thank you. I I think it's important for

1798
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,480
everybody to know. And then uh a second

1799
01:15:56,480 --> 01:16:00,560
question would be um

1800
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,199
similar timeline sadly uh but related to

1801
01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:04,960
the hospital closure that Barry

1802
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,840
mentioned earlier.

1803
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,760
We've had several changes and tweaks in

1804
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,640
there, but I guess from from budget

1805
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,600
standpoint at the outset,

1806
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,880
what's our what's our number as far as

1807
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,120
added expense that we've associated with

1808
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:22,640
the closure of the hospital? And that

1809
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,080
would be additional staffing and any

1810
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,719
other pivot changes that we weren't

1811
01:16:28,719 --> 01:16:30,080
going to make at the outside of the

1812
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,280
budget, but then chose to make

1813
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,360
in the process.

1814
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,440
I don't have a specific number for you,

1815
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:38,960
but I can highlight some of the things

1816
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,159
that were impacted by that. So, we um

1817
01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:44,640
ultimately decreased revenue um in the

1818
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,440
ambulance fund, I believe, by roughly a

1819
01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:50,320
100,000 um that we anticipated from

1820
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,000
transfers. So, typically we were picking

1821
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,880
up transfers out of Sturgis Hospital

1822
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,159
>> that we're not going to be able to do

1823
01:16:56,159 --> 01:16:57,120
because of it.

1824
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,760
>> Correct. Um we will see increased fuel

1825
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,280
costs um just again from that transport

1826
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:08,400
time. Um we have um eliminated the fire

1827
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,760
marshall um position and put that back

1828
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:16,400
as a um full-time ambulance and and fire

1829
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,360
personnel and added additional staffing

1830
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,800
related to that to reduce um overtime

1831
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:27,840
and keep um staff levels accordingly

1832
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,800
balanced. um just due to those long lead

1833
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,679
times of transfers and getting them to

1834
01:17:33,679 --> 01:17:36,000
the hospital.

1835
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,159
>> But as far as that lost revenue and then

1836
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:40,239
the additional staffing, do you know a

1837
01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:42,560
ballpark number? And I'm sorry I'm

1838
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,760
asking you on the spot, but

1839
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,920
>> I don't want to misrepresent a number,

1840
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,600
but I can look and see if I can get you

1841
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,760
a number by the end of the the meeting

1842
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:52,960
when we come back around.

1843
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,280
>> Thank you, Satie. And I I just I say

1844
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,800
that just because it's important to

1845
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,719
highlight that

1846
01:17:58,719 --> 01:18:01,679
through two circumstances outside our

1847
01:18:01,679 --> 01:18:04,400
control. That's correct. Uh within eight

1848
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,560
days of each other, um there's been a

1849
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,800
lot piled on inside this budget process

1850
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,840
that has been abnormal outside what a

1851
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,000
normal would normal year would be.

1852
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,480
>> So just to help our citizens

1853
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:21,840
um understand a municipal budget is a

1854
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,840
management tool subject to change like

1855
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:30,719
we've had with this the uh storm damage.

1856
01:18:30,719 --> 01:18:32,719
There's unanticipated

1857
01:18:32,719 --> 01:18:34,480
things that we're going to encounter

1858
01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:36,800
over the next year. Who knows, we might

1859
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,280
have another storm or another situation

1860
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,679
that might occur.

1861
01:18:41,679 --> 01:18:44,400
So, we know that we amend the budget at

1862
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,840
least twice. Once in the middle and then

1863
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,840
toward the end of the fiscal year to

1864
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:53,520
realign those cost items to reflect what

1865
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,080
we actually spent. That's why we need to

1866
01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:00,159
be flexible in the way that we approach

1867
01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:03,199
our budget.

1868
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:05,040
Again, during my report, I'm going to

1869
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:06,960
talk about a little bit about um

1870
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,320
anticipated staffing going forward

1871
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,739
um and some effects of the hospital. So,

1872
01:19:12,739 --> 01:19:13,440
[clears throat]

1873
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:17,120
um that's only two scenarios. We don't

1874
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,600
know what holds true in the future. And

1875
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,719
again, this is a management tool and it

1876
01:19:22,719 --> 01:19:27,430
has to be flexible.

1877
01:19:27,440 --> 01:19:29,040
One more to add to that.

1878
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,719
>> We've mentioned it in the past, like you

1879
01:19:30,719 --> 01:19:32,000
said in others, but I think it's

1880
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,360
important as we joke on our increase on

1881
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:36,960
water.

1882
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,440
>> The We talked about the lead lines. Keep

1883
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:42,080
bringing that up. If we were to do that

1884
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:43,600
ourselves,

1885
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,760
I think it's like 3,700 I think we were

1886
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,520
estimating. Is that right? We were to

1887
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,520
take care of the lead ourselves. We've

1888
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,080
identified 1,500. We probably have what,

1889
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,640
another 1,300 or so to do. I can't

1890
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,040
remember the exact numbers, but do the

1891
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,600
math. That's if we are to do it

1892
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,080
ourselves. That number is as big as the

1893
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,760
hospital.

1894
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,320
And therefore, we're increasing. Like I

1895
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,640
said, our water's increasing. That's a

1896
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,400
big number.

1897
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,800
So, I don't want to forget that either.

1898
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,679
That's over 10 years, but still a big

1899
01:20:15,679 --> 01:20:16,800
number.

1900
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:22,800
So Satie, just to understand your your number, the 1.15, uh, that's

1901
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,159
just mutual aid. That's not our

1902
01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:25,600
overtime. That's not our staff over

1903
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,199
time. That's not any of that.

1904
01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:29,520
>> That's not staff. It it's it's mutual

1905
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,320
aid. It's anything that got damaged.

1906
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,640
It's also we had crews in here cutting

1907
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:38,800
trees, moving um brush, moving logs,

1908
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,679
taking it to compost site. We had people

1909
01:20:41,679 --> 01:20:43,600
into the compost site helping clean that

1910
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,719
up. So those were the the highlights of

1911
01:20:46,719 --> 01:20:48,239
the the major costs. Yeah.

1912
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:51,669
>> Okay.

1913
01:20:51,679 --> 01:20:53,120
» Any other questions from the commission

1914
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,480
before I open up to the public?

1915
01:20:56,480 --> 01:21:01,990
>> No. Any comments from the public?

1916
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,880
» Thank you, mayor. Um so that's 5 a.5

1917
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,360
million. Kathy, Commissioner ABS.

1918
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:08,239
>> Biggest is the high school?

1919
01:21:08,239 --> 01:21:10,560
>> Uh yeah, for 1500, which is pretty close

1920
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,280
to where we're at, not 13. So, sorry to

1921
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:14,560
disappoint.

1922
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,040
>> I thought we already had some done. So,

1923
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,440
>> it' really be great to be at 1300. Um

1924
01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:23,520
the uh the the approval for uh item 10A

1925
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,400
for the 3 million. So, is that part of

1926
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:27,920
this current budget?

1927
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,280
>> That's correct.

1928
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:29,600
>> Yes.

1929
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,080
>> Okay. So, and we're the fund balance is

1930
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:37,669
only still being reduced by $300,000.

1931
01:21:37,679 --> 01:21:40,709
Okay.

1932
01:21:40,719 --> 01:21:42,640
Any

1933
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,400
other comments from comments from the

1934
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,320
public?

1935
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,159
Okay, we'll go ahead and close the

1936
01:21:48,159 --> 01:21:54,709
public hearing.

1937
01:21:54,719 --> 01:21:58,080
What's the wish of the commission?

1938
01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:59,840
>> Mr. Mayor, I'll move that the Sturgeis

1939
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:03,120
City Commission adopt the 26 27 annual

1940
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,360
city of Sturgeis budget summary and

1941
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,520
appropriation resolution and approve the

1942
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,199
city of Sturgeis fee schedule as

1943
01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:12,719
presented. So we have a motion second

1944
01:22:12,719 --> 01:22:15,199
and support. All in favor?

1945
01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:16,480
>> Opposed?

1946
01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:22,149
>> So move.

1947
01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:24,800
Next on the agenda is the uh Doyle roof

1948
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,520
bonds. Uh Miss Sabra, welcome back.

1949
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,239
>> Thank you again. Um so included in your

1950
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:32,960
packet is a bond authorizing resolution

1951
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,800
for the issuance of capital improvement

1952
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,600
bonds for the Doyle Roof project. Um

1953
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,360
this would authorize the city to issue

1954
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,120
bonds not to exceed 800,000. Um

1955
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,080
previously um we had issued a notice of

1956
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,440
intent um back in May with a 45day

1957
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:52,320
referendum period. Um this referendum

1958
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,480
period has passed and we've received no

1959
01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:57,760
petitions um that were filed. Um the

1960
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,480
term of the bonds would be 15 years um

1961
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:04,719
with the interest rate not to exceed 6%.

1962
01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:08,639
Um again um

1963
01:23:08,639 --> 01:23:10,800
final required issue amount may be

1964
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,040
adjusted um but cannot exceed the

1965
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,760
maximum of the 800,000 which was in the

1966
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,280
notice of intent. Um

1967
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,920
back on May 13th, the commission

1968
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,320
approved the low bidder um Newberry

1969
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,800
Square construction out of Ship Shawana

1970
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:31,830
in the amount of $729,728

1971
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,360
with a $20,000 contingency budget

1972
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:39,440
included in that. um the cost of the the

1973
01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:42,719
bond um from financial advisory

1974
01:23:42,719 --> 01:23:44,960
services, bond services and rating

1975
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,199
agency fees would be eligible for

1976
01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:49,600
payment from the bond proceeds as well.

1977
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:54,800
Um we have submitted a um grant to the

1978
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,199
Sturgeis Area Community Foundation and

1979
01:23:57,199 --> 01:23:58,880
hopefully we will find out tomorrow if

1980
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,440
we've received a grant towards the Doyle

1981
01:24:01,440 --> 01:24:03,440
roof which would then um ultimately

1982
01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:05,920
reduce our bonding need. But

1983
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,320
unfortunately they are meeting um today

1984
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,880
as well. So we will give you an update

1985
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:14,159
um on the what we hear from that. But um

1986
01:24:14,159 --> 01:24:15,840
this would move us forward in the

1987
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,800
process of getting those bonds started

1988
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,080
and approved.

1989
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,480
>> Say was there an idea of what that grant

1990
01:24:22,480 --> 01:24:23,600
could be up to?

1991
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:27,920
>> We we submitted for um a $200,000 okay

1992
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,320
grant but um that could vary based on

1993
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,760
what they would award us. Okay.

1994
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,870
Any

1995
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:43,270
other questions for state?

1996
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,520
» Oh, I guess the only other question I

1997
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,000
the work when was it supposed to start?

1998
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:49,520
>> Um, once we

1999
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:50,159
>> just when

2000
01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:52,719
>> had the funds. Yep. So, we we can also

2001
01:24:52,719 --> 01:24:54,639
reimburse ourselves from a period so we

2002
01:24:54,639 --> 01:24:59,110
can get started soon.

2003
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,760
» Okay.

2004
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,679
>> Mr. Mayor, I move that the Sturis City

2005
01:25:03,679 --> 01:25:05,920
Commission adopt the bond authorizing

2006
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,520
resolution as presented.

2007
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,679
>> So, we have a motion.

2008
01:25:09,679 --> 01:25:10,480
>> Second

2009
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:12,159
>> and support. All in favor?

2010
01:25:12,159 --> 01:25:16,560
>> I opposed. So, move.

2011
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,800
Next on the agenda is planning

2012
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,920
commission appointment. Mr. Ken Rhodess.

2013
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,239
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. uh planning

2014
01:25:24,239 --> 01:25:26,080
commission obviously one of our most

2015
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:27,760
important boards and want to make sure

2016
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,840
that we've got a full uh board so that

2017
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,560
we can have a quorum when needed. Um

2018
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:36,000
Jersey Anderson has submitted a uh um

2019
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,360
application which is in front of you. Um

2020
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,159
and uh she was here at one meeting.

2021
01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:43,440
She's actually talked to the community

2022
01:25:43,440 --> 01:25:44,960
development department. So she

2023
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,520
understands uh what is involved in the

2024
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:51,040
planning uh uh commission and uh she's

2025
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,600
recommended for approval. So or

2026
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:56,000
appointment I should say. Happy to

2027
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:57,360
answer any questions. This the only one

2028
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,520
we have on file currently. I can also

2029
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,840
say on that note uh there's a gentleman

2030
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,040
in the audience right now that

2031
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:04,880
apparently has expressed some interest

2032
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,199
uh in serving on some boards. So, no.

2033
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:09,840
>> He uh he may get an application and get

2034
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,199
more than he bargained for.

2035
01:26:11,199 --> 01:26:12,719
>> We can give it to him today if he really

2036
01:26:12,719 --> 01:26:13,280
wants it.

2037
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:14,400
>> Yeah. So,

2038
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,880
>> Ken, is that will this round out the

2039
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,400
planning commission as full now with

2040
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,480
this appointment?

2041
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:21,600
>> I don't know.

2042
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,040
>> I think we're close. I we may still need

2043
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,120
one, but I I've got to check that. But,

2044
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,000
uh definitely this will help. Uh um

2045
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,360
>> is this one of the boards where city

2046
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,440
residents are required or the members

2047
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:36,480
are required to Yeah.

2048
01:26:36,480 --> 01:26:38,400
Okay. I was I was wondering about that.

2049
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,800
Not to not to delve into details, but

2050
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,159
>> actually you can be an owner of property

2051
01:26:44,159 --> 01:26:45,360
in the city

2052
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,440
>> and be on the bike.

2053
01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:49,679
>> I don't I'd have to check on how many

2054
01:26:49,679 --> 01:26:51,679
you can have but just one

2055
01:26:51,679 --> 01:26:53,520
>> because Mike Kaywood was in that case

2056
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,080
where he wasn't a resident of here but

2057
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,960
>> he was a resident when he got on.

2058
01:26:58,960 --> 01:26:59,360
>> Okay.

2059
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:00,080
>> Right.

2060
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:01,840
>> And you have to own property. So,

2061
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,360
>> but has an ownership interest in

2062
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:04,239
property that's in

2063
01:27:04,239 --> 01:27:06,239
>> and we had a situation where we had

2064
01:27:06,239 --> 01:27:08,400
gentlemen that were on they were

2065
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,440
appointed once their term expired then

2066
01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:13,280
they may not have been able to be

2067
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,159
reappointed. Uh so we can only appoint

2068
01:27:16,159 --> 01:27:18,159
so you do have to live in the city.

2069
01:27:18,159 --> 01:27:19,679
>> So you're grandfathering and you're not

2070
01:27:19,679 --> 01:27:21,600
required to leave if your situation

2071
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,239
changes.

2072
01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:25,600
>> So Barry, were you shaking your head

2073
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:26,960
because you do want an application? Is

2074
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:28,480
that is that

2075
01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:31,520
>> he may have difficulty as a conflict of

2076
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,639
appointment soon. So, I don't want to

2077
01:27:34,639 --> 01:27:36,400
appoint people that may not be able to

2078
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,320
continue their appointment

2079
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:38,800
>> for long.

2080
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,990
>> All right.

2081
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,199
Any questions for Ken,

2082
01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:46,880
>> Mr.

2083
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,360
I'm I'm going to jump in real quick. So,

2084
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:50,400
>> under the planning commission and

2085
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,400
planning enabling act, technically the

2086
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,520
mayor should move to appoint and then if

2087
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,840
you would move to support um the

2088
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,719
approval of the appointment. So,

2089
01:28:00,719 --> 01:28:03,280
>> yeah. Under 2441. Yes. And in our

2090
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,040
commission technically, it's kind of a

2091
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,040
nuance where the mayor appoints and then

2092
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:08,639
the commission affirms. That's kind of

2093
01:28:08,639 --> 01:28:10,080
like the nomination and then the

2094
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,280
confirmation by the board.

2095
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:12,480
>> Is that the only board that

2096
01:28:12,480 --> 01:28:14,400
>> that's the only one that applies to? So,

2097
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,750
anyways.

2098
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,320
» Okay. So, I mayor Frank Perez move that

2099
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:21,920
the city sturgeon city commission

2100
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,560
appoint Jersey Anderson to the planning

2101
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,000
uh to the Sturgis planning commission.

2102
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,520
So you move your point and then K.

2103
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:28,639
>> I'll second.

2104
01:28:28,639 --> 01:28:29,199
>> Second.

2105
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:29,520
>> Okay.

2106
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:30,800
>> All in favor?

2107
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,920
>> I I opposed. So move.

2108
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,080
>> Thank you. T I was not aware of that.

2109
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,520
>> Not a problem.

2110
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:38,800
>> All right.

2111
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,400
>> Is that in our charter or is that a

2112
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:41,040
state law?

2113
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:42,400
>> It's in the state statute for the

2114
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,880
planning enabling act. It's also in our

2115
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:48,239
uh code of um under section 2441 for the

2116
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:50,719
uh city planning board created which

2117
01:28:50,719 --> 01:28:52,480
tracks the statute.

2118
01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:54,480
>> Okay. Thank you. That's the only motion

2119
01:28:54,480 --> 01:28:56,346
I've made since I've been mayor.

2120
01:28:56,346 --> 01:28:57,199
[laughter]

2121
01:28:57,199 --> 01:28:59,679
>> So, we pay you big bucks.

2122
01:28:59,679 --> 01:29:01,199
>> All right. Next on the agenda is

2123
01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:02,639
commissioner and staff comments. So,

2124
01:29:02,639 --> 01:29:04,880
we'll move on with that. Start with Miss

2125
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:05,679
80.

2126
01:29:05,679 --> 01:29:09,440
>> So, I do have some numbers for you. Um,

2127
01:29:09,440 --> 01:29:12,719
from the ambulance fund side, we added

2128
01:29:12,719 --> 01:29:16,239
um an additional 110,000 of expense due

2129
01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:20,880
to staffing. Um, we had uh 68,000 of

2130
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,280
essentially loss revenue. Um, and then

2131
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,600
we um added $150,000 contribution from

2132
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,199
the general fund compared to where we

2133
01:29:29,199 --> 01:29:31,920
were at. So those would be the the

2134
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:33,920
numbers that affected the the ambulance

2135
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,320
fund specifically.

2136
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:36,880
>> Thank you.

2137
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:38,480
>> Yeah, that's all I have.

2138
01:29:38,480 --> 01:29:40,080
>> Okay, Mr. Ross.

2139
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,320
>> Yep. Uh, we had a really good election.

2140
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,400
Everything went very well. It's a

2141
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,120
different different election world these

2142
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,159
days. We had 637 absentee ballots and

2143
01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:52,960
715 people at the polls themselves. So

2144
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,880
it's almost half half. I can't tell you

2145
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,199
I'll find out tomorrow how many uh

2146
01:29:57,199 --> 01:29:59,840
people voted uh at the early voting site

2147
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:01,760
which is open for 9 days. So in essence

2148
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:03,600
there are three

2149
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,760
parallel elections happening right now.

2150
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,560
Um so um so we'll do it again in

2151
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,920
November. Uh if you have not heard but

2152
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,080
this will pertain to uh the city

2153
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:18,320
commission the um state passed uh a law

2154
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,880
because if you recall our organizational

2155
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,080
meeting falls uh before they can certify

2156
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,840
the election. So that was addressed um

2157
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,679
and so um commissioners I believe it's

2158
01:30:31,679 --> 01:30:33,440
the first

2159
01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:36,960
Monday after in December but at the

2160
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:38,480
beginning of December. So whereas we had

2161
01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:41,120
an organizational meeting uh right after

2162
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,080
the election uh that won't take place

2163
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:45,600
until

2164
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:50,719
um uh December. So uh commissioners that

2165
01:30:50,719 --> 01:30:54,239
will not be on the commission going

2166
01:30:54,239 --> 01:30:56,960
forward would still serve the two uh two

2167
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,120
meetings in November and then new

2168
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,239
commissioners will um will come on board

2169
01:31:02,239 --> 01:31:03,840
in December and we'll have our

2170
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:05,679
organizational meeting then. So

2171
01:31:05,679 --> 01:31:07,760
>> that first December uh

2172
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:11,120
>> yeah so I think it TJ is working out the

2173
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:12,719
details but it should be

2174
01:31:12,719 --> 01:31:15,600
>> the first Monday of December unless of

2175
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:16,960
course it's probably December 1st when

2176
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:18,800
it may be December 8th or something like

2177
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,239
that. So we'll we'll get that figured

2178
01:31:20,239 --> 01:31:21,679
out so that we can get those dates out

2179
01:31:21,679 --> 01:31:22,080
to you.

2180
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:22,400
>> Okay.

2181
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:24,000
>> So yes sir.

2182
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:25,760
>> Okay.

2183
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,760
Since our charter says that we have to

2184
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,520
have it that money

2185
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:30,400
>> Yeah.

2186
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:33,440
>> So we have to change it anyway.

2187
01:31:33,440 --> 01:31:35,280
Can we get that moved to like six

2188
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,360
o'clock instead of 8:00?

2189
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,760
>> Yeah. So, so, so that I will take that

2190
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,639
in consideration. What I'm looking at,

2191
01:31:42,639 --> 01:31:45,520
>> what we're dealing with is an issue of

2192
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,280
preeemption. So, the state has

2193
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,040
essentially preempted our charter by

2194
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:50,560
mandating

2195
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,320
um that this meeting is going to have to

2196
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,080
be moved because of the way that they're

2197
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:55,679
certifying the election and allowing

2198
01:31:55,679 --> 01:31:57,199
those elected officials to take place.

2199
01:31:57,199 --> 01:31:58,560
So, I'm working on that. We're not the

2200
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,960
only municipality that is dealing with

2201
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:02,480
charter provisions that conflict with

2202
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:06,480
this new state law. Um, but I think that

2203
01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:08,880
I I Ken and I were talking before. So,

2204
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:13,280
it's every other year. It will still be

2205
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,199
in November because there will be no

2206
01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:16,960
commission commissioners up for

2207
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:18,239
election. It'll just be simply you

2208
01:32:18,239 --> 01:32:19,840
organizing it, which will still be the

2209
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,760
first Monday following the election at

2210
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,320
8:00. on the years in which a commission

2211
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:27,120
gets installed. Um I think that there's

2212
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:28,719
since it's preempted in that respect,

2213
01:32:28,719 --> 01:32:30,239
there'll be plenty of latitude there for

2214
01:32:30,239 --> 01:32:32,560
timing.

2215
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,280
>> Okay. But our our charter I think you're

2216
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:36,880
asking if our charter is being changed,

2217
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,320
but our charter is not being changed

2218
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:41,920
state law just I'm just saying since we

2219
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,000
have to violate the charter anyway

2220
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:44,880
according to state law.

2221
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:45,760
>> We're not violating.

2222
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:46,880
>> They're not violating. [laughter] They

2223
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,600
are they are preempted. We're not

2224
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:51,679
violating. If it's preempted, it's not a

2225
01:32:51,679 --> 01:32:53,360
violation. So, I want to be clear, it's

2226
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,679
not a violation. Um, and there are

2227
01:32:55,679 --> 01:32:56,960
plenty of areas in the charter that are

2228
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,520
preempted by state law, but um, well,

2229
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,440
and actually, I will point out

2230
01:33:01,440 --> 01:33:03,360
Commissioner Smith two years ago had

2231
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,600
presented which a common sense

2232
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:06,880
resolution that would have fixed the

2233
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,679
issue had the state adopted the language

2234
01:33:09,679 --> 01:33:12,080
in which you put forth, but they decided

2235
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:13,520
to go completely different direction,

2236
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,440
just kick everything uh, three weeks

2237
01:33:15,440 --> 01:33:18,320
down the road. So,

2238
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,320
>> but we can change the charter by a vote

2239
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:22,639
of the people.

2240
01:33:22,639 --> 01:33:25,440
>> You certainly can.

2241
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:26,639
change.

2242
01:33:26,639 --> 01:33:28,829
>> We can put that on our next election.

2243
01:33:28,829 --> 01:33:28,880
[laughter]

2244
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:33,199
>> Um, next agenda item.

2245
01:33:33,199 --> 01:33:34,800
>> But yeah, so

2246
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:36,639
>> Oh, wait. Violation of the charter. It's

2247
01:33:36,639 --> 01:33:39,600
just a screen option issue.

2248
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:40,159
>> That's it.

2249
01:33:40,159 --> 01:33:42,639
>> Anything else, Mr. Sey anything from

2250
01:33:42,639 --> 01:33:44,320
staff? Uh, Mr. Will?

2251
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:50,629
>> Yeah.

2252
01:33:50,639 --> 01:33:52,080
Thanks commissioners.

2253
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,320
>> So tonight you guys adopted a fee

2254
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,800
schedule for the upcoming budget year

2255
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:58,400
and as part of that there was a couple

2256
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,719
of rental or property maintenance fee

2257
01:34:00,719 --> 01:34:03,120
increases. One was rental registrations.

2258
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,520
So that was increased and then we also

2259
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,239
added uh premier properties would be

2260
01:34:08,239 --> 01:34:11,120
paying half of the inspection fees. So

2261
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,120
over the next probably 30 or 60 days,

2262
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,679
I'll be bringing back policy change that

2263
01:34:15,679 --> 01:34:18,880
would require the uh premier properties

2264
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,440
to pay the half as part of the policy to

2265
01:34:21,440 --> 01:34:22,960
catch up with what the fee schedule

2266
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:24,800
would be. I know in the past we've

2267
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:26,639
talked about the property maintenance

2268
01:34:26,639 --> 01:34:28,560
policy that we have in place and I think

2269
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,560
there was some concerns from this board

2270
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:31,920
and I want to know if there's anything

2271
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,960
that you guys want us to be addressing

2272
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,920
as part of this policy change that uh we

2273
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:39,440
should be looking at from a staff level.

2274
01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:41,360
So when we bring it back, we can try to

2275
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,920
keep this thing moving forward at least

2276
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,239
to clean up the language that we have.

2277
01:34:46,239 --> 01:34:48,560
So I know that there was discussion a

2278
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,840
while ago and it kind of went went on

2279
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,159
the side and now I want to bring it back

2280
01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:55,679
to make sure we can finish this up. I

2281
01:34:55,679 --> 01:34:57,520
have a few changes that just from

2282
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:02,400
processes on our end, but nothing drastic other than just uh

2283
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:03,840
completing with the fee schedule changes

2284
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,639
that were just approved.

2285
01:35:06,639 --> 01:35:09,199
>> Yeah. Will the fee fee change fee

2286
01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:13,840
schedule change? But did the um

2287
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:18,000
property um the inspections

2288
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,960
time in between change at all for any

2289
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:22,719
premier versus other? That would be part

2290
01:35:22,719 --> 01:35:25,280
of the policy discussion that we would

2291
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,480
have because if I bring it back, my my

2292
01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:30,400
thought process would be on the current

2293
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,880
policy without extending the premier

2294
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:34,560
properties, they would the premier

2295
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:35,920
properties would pay half of the

2296
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,320
inspection fee. But if they want to go

2297
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,159
longer term, then the premier properties

2298
01:35:40,159 --> 01:35:42,639
would pay all of the inspection fee,

2299
01:35:42,639 --> 01:35:44,000
>> but they would go a longer term.

2300
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:44,480
>> Okay.

2301
01:35:44,480 --> 01:35:45,679
>> So, there's like a couple different

2302
01:35:45,679 --> 01:35:48,400
things. I I think we have positives and

2303
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:49,600
negatives for both. Yeah.

2304
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,040
>> For both sides. What are you thinking

2305
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:51,360
about?

2306
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,199
>> You uh do do you think it's best we have

2307
01:35:53,199 --> 01:35:55,199
a work session before the meeting if you

2308
01:35:55,199 --> 01:35:57,120
were to bring something?

2309
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:57,840
>> I'm all

2310
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,679
>> No,

2311
01:35:59,679 --> 01:36:01,760
>> I think it's I think what we're bringing

2312
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:04,800
is pretty simple to to discuss.

2313
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,760
>> Um but we can it's a it's a I we'll

2314
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:09,520
leave it Doug Terry after he and I talk

2315
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,199
about the policy changes, he can make

2316
01:36:11,199 --> 01:36:12,000
the decision.

2317
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:13,120
>> All right.

2318
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:14,880
But if you guys have anything else that

2319
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:16,880
you you think about, reach out to Doug

2320
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:21,120
or city manager and uh be happy to

2321
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:22,159
present that.

2322
01:36:22,159 --> 01:36:23,600
>> Okay. Thank you.

2323
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,280
>> Thank you.

2324
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:29,440
>> Erica, you got anything, Dan?

2325
01:36:29,440 --> 01:36:32,400
>> Anything from our men in blue?

2326
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,679
Anything from the media?

2327
01:36:35,679 --> 01:36:36,239
>> TJ,

2328
01:36:36,239 --> 01:36:37,280
>> nothing more tonight.

2329
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:37,760
>> Doug,

2330
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,560
>> I have a few things. Uh first of all,

2331
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,800
Mr. mayor. Um, I want to give our

2332
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:47,040
sincere thanks to Jamie Iimer who gave

2333
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,639
us a lot of years of service at uh the

2334
01:36:50,639 --> 01:36:53,679
Civic Center. Um, as of today, we

2335
01:36:53,679 --> 01:36:56,480
started advertising for her replacement

2336
01:36:56,480 --> 01:36:58,880
and hope to have somebody in place

2337
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:03,760
within a month. Um, we'll see. um public

2338
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:07,199
staffing, public safety staffing. Uh in

2339
01:37:07,199 --> 01:37:09,840
regards to ambulance, as you know, we're

2340
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,280
capped out with uh both police and fire.

2341
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:19,199
Um my orders to U Ryan was that um when

2342
01:37:19,199 --> 01:37:24,080
we see talent, let's grab on to it. um

2343
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:25,360
knowing that we're going to have some

2344
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:29,760
retirements coming up. Um I'm concerned

2345
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:33,119
that um with the hospital closure that

2346
01:37:33,119 --> 01:37:36,000
we're going to be tied up um quite a bit

2347
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,320
with our ambulance. So I want to make

2348
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:40,480
sure that we're our citizens can be

2349
01:37:40,480 --> 01:37:44,000
assured that their safety is first

2350
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:47,440
priority. So hopefully he'll be able to.

2351
01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:50,320
Again, it's just like anywhere. We're

2352
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:54,080
having this problem with a shortage of

2353
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:57,280
qualified people trying to recruit. Um,

2354
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,920
that's the marketplace right now. And

2355
01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:02,320
we're a competitive community. We're a

2356
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,639
beautiful community. So, we're trying I

2357
01:38:04,639 --> 01:38:06,000
didn't want to sound like Donald Trump

2358
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:10,480
there. Um we're we're going to do

2359
01:38:10,480 --> 01:38:12,880
everything we can to attract so that

2360
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,040
there's no

2361
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:18,320
shortage of qualified staff going

2362
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:19,920
forward.

2363
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,400
Um

2364
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:29,679
development uh we do have as uh Will tell you uh we do have interested

2365
01:38:29,679 --> 01:38:32,560
people looking at building housing in

2366
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,560
our community. there seems to be a

2367
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:38,320
shortage um right now. Um Sturgis is

2368
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,639
probably one of the more attractive

2369
01:38:40,639 --> 01:38:43,520
communities uh in our state. So we want

2370
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,159
to uh work with them. That's we have

2371
01:38:46,159 --> 01:38:50,080
that going on. Storm cleanup um

2372
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:53,679
continues. Um, through Tom's efforts, we

2373
01:38:53,679 --> 01:38:56,480
will be working with our arborist and

2374
01:38:56,480 --> 01:39:01,760
with our contractors to try and excel

2375
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,719
those big pieces of wood that a lot of

2376
01:39:04,719 --> 01:39:08,800
our residents cannot handle physically.

2377
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:11,360
We want to get in there and help them as

2378
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:13,840
much as we can. This doesn't occur all

2379
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:16,239
the time, but it is a problem. We can't

2380
01:39:16,239 --> 01:39:18,480
ask people to do something that they

2381
01:39:18,480 --> 01:39:21,360
can't [clears throat] physically do.

2382
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:23,679
to just so we want to do everything we

2383
01:39:23,679 --> 01:39:28,480
can to help them. Uh that being said, um

2384
01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:31,360
it's been a busy month and uh we don't

2385
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,480
see it letting up. So [laughter]

2386
01:39:34,480 --> 01:39:35,520
that's all I have.

2387
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,000
>> All right, Commissioner,

2388
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:39,119
>> nothing. Thank you.

2389
01:39:39,119 --> 01:39:40,400
>> Commissioner Bourne,

2390
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:41,280
>> not tonight.

2391
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:42,239
>> Commissioner Wiki,

2392
01:39:42,239 --> 01:39:43,280
>> nothing tonight.

2393
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:45,280
>> Commissioner Miller.

2394
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:49,360
on uh Clerk Road's topic of elections.

2395
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:51,119
Uh while I've been trained as an

2396
01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:53,040
elections inspector twice, I finally got

2397
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:56,560
to serve and uh can't do that here. So I

2398
01:39:56,560 --> 01:40:00,239
served in Leonidis Township and so that

2399
01:40:00,239 --> 01:40:02,080
sadly meant that I was one of those

2400
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:04,800
absentee ballots. That's one downside.

2401
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:08,239
Um but I definitely learned a great

2402
01:40:08,239 --> 01:40:10,719
deal. I got to see how things work in

2403
01:40:10,719 --> 01:40:12,639
another municipality

2404
01:40:12,639 --> 01:40:15,040
and uh it was altogether an enlightening

2405
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:16,800
experience and we have a wonderful

2406
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,840
election system.

2407
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:21,760
>> Thank you, Commissioner B.

2408
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,840
>> Nothing tonight. Thank you,

2409
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:25,440
>> Commissioner Smith.

2410
01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:28,480
>> Um, couple things.

2411
01:40:28,480 --> 01:40:32,719
One, I know it's not our problem. I

2412
01:40:32,719 --> 01:40:36,960
think it's uh the phone companies GTS or

2413
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,040
G's whatever

2414
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:42,159
on the corner of

2415
01:40:42,159 --> 01:40:45,360
East Maine in Nawa they got a broken

2416
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,679
pole there in front of Camurns and

2417
01:40:47,679 --> 01:40:50,000
there's a tree stump sticking up in the

2418
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,080
air that the cables just kind of laying

2419
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:55,679
off over top of. Can we do anything

2420
01:40:55,679 --> 01:40:58,719
about their inaction to fix that?

2421
01:40:58,719 --> 01:41:00,719
>> We you will take a look at it.

2422
01:41:00,719 --> 01:41:03,360
If if it's a totem pole, um, we'll take

2423
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:04,480
care of.

2424
01:41:04,480 --> 01:41:04,800
>> Okay.

2425
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,400
>> I know where you're talking.

2426
01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:09,920
>> Yeah. And the second thing is tomorrow

2427
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:13,280
is National Feet Minion Day.

2428
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:16,000
>> So, Vinnie, if anybody wants to

2429
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:18,320
volunteer to go out, get a nice like

2430
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:20,960
2inch thick porter house, drill it up

2431
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:23,199
good, and just cut the little part off,

2432
01:41:23,199 --> 01:41:25,675
keep it, and bring me the rest.

2433
01:41:25,675 --> 01:41:28,400
[laughter] Would be much appreciated.

2434
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:30,239
Thank you.

2435
01:41:30,239 --> 01:41:32,480
Um, thank you, Vice Mayor.

2436
01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:34,320
>> Uh, nothing

2437
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,960
exciting like Commissioner Smith, but

2438
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,280
uh, good discussions tonight. Um, the

2439
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,360
airport thing I learned a lot on. So,

2440
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:42,639
hopefully that that stuff will get

2441
01:41:42,639 --> 01:41:44,560
resolved quickly for some of these

2442
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,400
people if it's as if it's truly is easy

2443
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,800
what they say it is. I don't know all

2444
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,800
the details. You guys do. So, hopefully

2445
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,199
it can be resolved quickly. Um, I will

2446
01:41:53,199 --> 01:41:54,880
say this. If we could spread love and

2447
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:56,800
love as quickly as we spread hate and

2448
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,280
negativity, what an amazing world we

2449
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,360
live in. Let's all be kind to one

2450
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:03,679
another.

2451
01:42:03,679 --> 01:42:06,239
Great. So, fellow commissioners and uh

2452
01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:07,760
citizens, I just want to take this

2453
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,080
opportunity to address events that have

2454
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:12,080
taken place over the last over this past

2455
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:15,119
summer. Uh, as you all know, we faced a

2456
01:42:15,119 --> 01:42:16,719
severe thunderstorm that just ripped our

2457
01:42:16,719 --> 01:42:20,480
city, especially in the ways of trees. I

2458
01:42:20,480 --> 01:42:23,040
really want to thank our DPS staff, our

2459
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:24,560
electric staff, parks and cemetery

2460
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:26,480
staff, and the rest of our staff who

2461
01:42:26,480 --> 01:42:28,880
work diligent diligently to assist our

2462
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,040
citizens in the cleanup of properties

2463
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:34,320
and streets. Uh second of all, it's been

2464
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:35,760
challenging for commissioners with the

2465
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,840
most recent change in city and city

2466
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,880
manager. I I think that all of us should

2467
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,199
reflect that we serve the citizens of

2468
01:42:43,199 --> 01:42:44,560
Sturgis and are blessed to have the

2469
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,199
opportunity to serve our citizens going

2470
01:42:47,199 --> 01:42:48,880
forward. I see excellent opportunities

2471
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,600
for both the commission and our citizens

2472
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,960
as we as we grow our city. Again, I want

2473
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:56,880
to thank our citizens for having the

2474
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:58,719
patience to understand that government

2475
01:42:58,719 --> 01:43:01,360
can be very complex. We appreciate

2476
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:03,520
everyone's patience while cleaning while

2477
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:05,520
the cleaning efforts continue. And I

2478
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,920
want to thank our city staff uh for

2479
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:09,840
their knowledge and dedicated work as

2480
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:16,320
they carry us forward. It's not easy uh responding to uh the mess that we

2481
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:18,400
had. Uh

2482
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,960
and I know there's uh uh some folks that

2483
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:25,840
uh uh say we should do it faster, but I I can tell you this, our staff has

2484
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,239
been awesome in the way they've

2485
01:43:28,239 --> 01:43:30,880
addressed our city, and it looks a lot

2486
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:32,560
better today than what it did a couple

2487
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,119
weeks ago. So [clears throat] big huge

2488
01:43:35,119 --> 01:43:37,360
shout out to our staff and and all those

2489
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:40,560
involved in uh making our city uh what

2490
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,440
it is. And with that, I hope each and

2491
01:43:43,440 --> 01:43:45,199
every one of you have a great rest of

2492
01:43:45,199 --> 01:43:47,520
your work week meeting agreement. Thank

2493
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,000
you.

2494
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,800
>> Can you meet these applications?

2495
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:58,400
>> No. Well, I'll take it. Okay. until it