>> Mayor: good evening.
If we can all -- we'd like to
call this meeting to order.
Thank you.
Roll call?
>> commissioner joseph?
>> here.
>> commissioner lama?
>> here.
>> commissioner stuyvesant?
>> here.
>> vice mayor viscarra?
>> here.
>> mayor goldman?
>> Mayor: here.
>> all members present, ma'am.
>> Mayor: pledge of allegiance?
Will you lead us in the pledge
of allegiance?
[Pledge of allegiance]
>> Mayor: approval of the
minutes.
Can we have a motion?
>> motion.
>> Mayor: so moved.
Second, commissioner stuyvesant.
All in favor?
[Ayes]
Okay.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome
and thank you for being here
tonight.
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If you exceed the three-minute
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you don't cease speaking after
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out of the chambers.
But first, we do have the
invocation.
So, rabbi baron,.
From sunny isles beach.
Thank you very much.
-
>> thank you.
>> Mayor: for your invocation.
>> dear GOD, master of the
universe, we stand humbled
before you this evening, as we
recognize all of your blessings,
that you have bestowed upon us,
collectively as a community, an
individually as private
citizens.
We recognize the blessings of
living in a democratic country,
and we do not take this for
granted.
We're mindful of that, that you
have left the city with
donnerful leadership, direction,
dedication, guiding spirit,
which has resulted in many
successful achievements over the
last 25 years here in sunny
isles beach, and we praise you
for this.
We recognize that we are
gathered before you this evening
in pursuit of fulfilling your
wishes.
As you, dear GOD, empowered
humanity with the seven basic
universal laws, after the great
flood of noah, these laws are
once again reaffirmed by moses
at mount sinai to be taught to
all humanity.
Universal laws that provide a
framework of law, order, and
justice, which will allow
humanity to settle the earth in
a civilized manner.
We recognize that we have been
entrusted by the citizens of
sunny isles beach to perform
this sacred duty.
We recognize that our decisions
will have a lasting impact far
into the future.
We, therefore, almighty GOD,
please, provide us with the
consciousness to constantly be
aware of your presence, so that
we are consistent to our
mandate.
Please grant us the wisdom,
intuition, and sensitivity to
succeed so that we leave a
legacy of having a positive
impact upon society for many
generations to come.
Please guide our police
department and city staff to
make the right decisions with
honesty, integrity, and
knowledge for all citizens into
the future.
MAY they continue to serve as
positive role models for our
beautiful community almighty
GOD, in these times we do not
take our safety and security for
granted.
protect our police force, our
servicemen and women serving
domestically and overseas in the
name of freedom and democracy.
Please give them the peace of
mind, insight and intuition to
be successful.
MAY everyone gathered here
tonight, and all the residents
of sunny isles beach, be granted
with good health, peace of mind,
and prosperity and let us say
amen.
>> amen.
>> and as hanukkah begins this
sunday night, also want to wish
everyone a happy hanukkah.
And I'm looking forward to
seeing everyone here an monday
at 5:00 P.M. For the city hall
menorah lighting.
>> Mayor: thank you, rabbi.
Okay.
There are a few changes
tonight's agenda as follows.
Add orb on item 5-b presentation
by the map sec.
Item 10-h resolution approving
third amendment with granicus.
10-I resolution authorizing
purchase of janitorial supplies.
10-j urging florida legislature
to support league of cities
platform.
And additional information 7-a
ordinance approving budget
amendment.
Do I hear a motion to approve
these changes?
>> so moved.
>> Mayor: so moved commissioner
lama.
Second vice mayor viscarra.
All in favor.
[Ayes]
Okay.
Special presentations.
The 2023 photo contest winners.
>> good evening honorable mayor,
vice mayor and commission.
each year the city of sunny
isles beach holds a photo
contest, asking residents and
visitors to submit their best
photos, showcasing the beauty of
sunny isles beach.
17 photos by 14 photographers
were selected this year, and are
featured in our 2023 desktop
calendar.
We have some extremely talented
photographers living here in the
city.
And we received many beautiful
submissions.
While not all of them with be
featured in our calendar, many
you'll see throughout the
upcoming year on our website,
our publications, and on our
social media pages.
I would also like to recognize
laura mendez, a graphic designer
who designs our desktop calendar
and all of our publications and
graphics.
She always does a fantastic job
designing and putting together
our calendar and this year is no
exception.
So, as I call each winner's
name, please come up to the
front for your award, and stay
here so we can all take a photo.
Our cover photo, is by johan
andres alzate torres.
Johan is from colombia and has
been living in the united states
for three years.
His dream was to study
photography, and since moving to
the U.S. He has been able to do
so graduating as a photographer
just one month ago.
Our introduction page is mozes
ban.
Mozes is a professional
photographer who has been a
resident for ten years.
JANUARY is mat porporato.
mat has been a resident for four
years and loves the city of
sunny isles beach, architecture
is his favorite things to
photograph.
FEBRUARY is by antony broca.
As a photograph he loves to
explore, have adventures and
watch sunsets.
MARCH is another photo by johan
andres alzate torres.
APRIL is by luz zoraida liakos.
Luz is a proud resident from
2012 and founds sunny isles
beach to be an ideal place to
capture beautiful photos.
MAY is another photo by mat
porporato.
JUNE is by rebecca mullen.
Rebecca works for our code
compliance department since
2019.
And has since fallen in love
with the captivating views and
community that is sunny isles
beach.
JULY is another photo by mozes
ban.
AUGUST is by farid alvarez.
Born in colombia and raised in
miami, farid is an airplane
parts inspector who has worked
for boeing for ten years.
He enjoys photography as his
second job.
[Applause]
If you could stay up here we're
going to take a photo
afterwards.
Thanks.
SEPTEMBER is amr elkodsh.
OCTOBER is by ricardo tomassoni.
Ricardo moved to sunny isles
beach in 2000 and you'll often
see him around the city with a
camera photographing the beauty
of sunny isles beach and the
people who live here.
[Applause]
NOVEMBER is giovanni galvis.
he has been a resident for seven
years.
He has a wife and two wonderful
sons.
[Applause]
DECEMBER is by david vergel.
David has lived in sunny isles
beach for 15 years, and enjoys
taking photos as a hobby.
[Applause]
The photography page is by --
okay.
The photography page is by
christina perreira.
Christina is a resident who
moved here from south america.
She is a pilot and loves to do
photography in her free time.
[Applause]
The connect with us page is by
luis eduardo martinez mejia.
Luis was born in bogota where he
studied photography.
He is currently dedicated to
painting and his photography.
[Applause]
And our last page is by raysa
brito.
Born in cuba, raysa is a wife
and mother who has been a
cosmetologist for 38 years.
She has a passion for
photography and loves to capture
priceless moments.
[Applause]
Mayor commission, if you would
coe down and we to take a
photo.
And when everyone leaves tonight
you can take a free calendar in
the back of the room.
And you can also pick them up at
all of our city facilities.
We have one more award to
present tonight.
This year we are presenting a
lifetime achievement award
honoring a special resident
artist.
Mykola khodorovsky who passed
away in OCTOBER of this year.
He's been featured in our photo
desktop calendar more than any
other photographer.
You've probably seen his
beautiful photographs from the
city's publications, website and
social media many times.
He also donated his framed
photography and paintings to the
city and our police department.
His generosity in sharing his
talents with our city have been
greatly appreciated by all of us
for many years.
We would like to present his
wife lyudmila, who is here with
us tonight, with a special
award, and gift in honor of
mykola's artistic contributions
to our city's image and culture
over the years.
[Applause]
[Speaker off mic]
[Applause]
>> Mayor: okay.
We're moving to zoning.
>> no, mayor, we have 5-b.
>> Mayor: 5-b?
>> yes.
>> Mayor: oh, the add-on.
>> the add-on.
>> Mayor: oh, the mapsac.
Ped stan safety recommendation.
Presented by the mobility and
pedestrian safety advisory
committee.
You have the floor.
>> thank you.
Good evening, honorable mayor,
vice mayor, commissioners.
My name is pavel, I'm the chair
of the mobility and safety
committee.
For the benefit of the public
here, I'd like to state that the
committee was formed through a
formal application process and
our purpose and mission is to
promote traffic safety in our
beautiful city, as well as
pedestrian safety, and to
generate and discuss ideas for
improving traffic flow in the
city of sunny isles beach.
And we are volunteers,
contributing our time,
contributing our efforts, and
minds, to this very important
initiative.
The mapsecond committee over
past two meetings discussed the
intersections concerning the
protection of pedestrians
crossing from turning vehicles.
And we would like to highlight
the points of automated
enforcement using cameras and/or
other equipment possible in
addition to establishing this
protection.
There's significant evidence to
support the idea that automated
enforcement using traffic
cameras that capture turn
violations lead to safer
crossings for pedestrians.
In the memo that we provided,
there's several studies.
I'm just going to highlight a
few numbers.
The american journal of public
health found that the presence
of red light cameras lead to a
reduction, 21% reduction, in
pedestrian fatalities, and 14%
reduction in pedestrian
injuries.
And this was from the data
collected from 14 cities across
the united states.
General transport and health do
a study of over 200 sections in
the city in chicago found that
these kind of automated
enforcement cameras lead to 25%
reduction in the number of
crashes involving a pedestrian.
And lastly the american journal
of public health did a study on
red light violations, found that
red light violations decreased
by up to 90%, and the number of
crashes at intersections
decreased by up to 30% in the
presence of these automated
enforcement cameras.
So, there's significant evidence
from formal studies, but also
there's support in this kind of
experience, by the residents of
our neighboring city, the city
of aventura, they've been very
supportive in the red light
cameras installed in their city,
and if you drive through the
city of aventura you'll notice
that everyone there is kind of a
model driver.
You know, very careful in
approaching intersections.
Doing their proper red light
stops, and proceeding
thereafter.
And so, I am here presenting
this memo.
If you have any questions,
please let us know.
But, before I conclude I'd like
to thank you for establishing
the mapsac committee.
I'd like to thank the city staff
in facilitating our meetings and
supporting us with all the
information that we need to have
to proceed.
And lastly I'd like to thank our
mapsac committee members,
kenneth percy, anastasia, and
mariana, in contributing and
working really hard.
I know all of us are eager to
continue in the coming year, and
we'll look forward to
volunteering and continuing with
mapsac.
Thank you.
[Applause]
>> Mayor: ready for our zoning
portion?
>> yes, ma'am.
>> Mayor: ladies and gentlemen,
this evening's agenda has one
zoning application.
In these matters, the commission
sits in a quasi-judicial
capacity.
The decision of whether or not
to approve a zoning variance is
not a popularity contest but
must be based upon substantial,
competent evidence, as it
presented tonight.
If you intend to provide
testimony on any zoning
application, you must be sworn
in by the city clerk, and you
should also fill out a public
speakers card and give it to the
city clerk before the item is
called.
We will first hear from city
staff and then from the
applicant.
After this, I will allow anyone
from the audience who has been
sworn in to provide testimony.
The zoning applicant has the
right to cross-examine any
witness, and for rebuttal.
Please make your comments
concisely.
MR. City clerk, please read your
introductory zoning statement.
>> in accordance with the LDRs
of the city of sunny isles beach
all items to be heard today have
been legally advertised in the
newspaper, notices have been
mailed and posted on the
property.
All persons wishing to speak at
this hearing please raise your
right arm to be sworn in.
Do you swear the testimony
you're about to give is the
truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truth so help
you GOD?
Thank you.
so this is an application for a
minor site plan modification for
the property located at 100,
150, 200 and 300 kings point
drive.
The project known as marina del
mar.
I'm sorry.
Before we continue, are there
any ex parte communications?
>> no.
>> what are they?
We have to disclose who it was?
>> Mayor: I ask questions of --
>> good evening mayor, vice
mayor, commissioners, the zoning
hearing this evening as you
heard is a proposed site plan
modification for marina del mar
at 100, 150, 200 and 300 kings
point drive.
This is application pz 2022-09.
It was approved for two
apartment towers, a new
apartment garage and remodeling
of the existing apartment tower.
The applicant is proposing four
separate minor modifications
which I will walk through now.
And the applicant will also
provide a presentation with
further explanation and will
also be available for questions.
First the applicant is
requesting to eliminate a cable
railing system along the water
front of the property.
The property has two water
frontages at the north and
south.
And it's providing -- they were
highlighted on the screen.
So the property has two water
frontages and is providing
public walk that's highlighted
along the water frontages.
In the original site plan
approval there was a four foot
cable railing proposed between
the bay walk and the seawall,
the detail of which is also
shown on the screen.
And the railing is not required
by the zoning code or the
building code.
So the applicant is requesting
to eliminate the cable railing
from the plan.
Staff does not object to this
modification, as it is
consistent with the city's
comprehensive plan, and the land
development regulations.
Second the applicant is
requesting to modify the
entryway signage for the
property.
It's at the intersection of
kings point drive and collins
avenue.
The approved site plan showed
two blue city monument signs on
the north and south side of
kings point drive.
The proposed modification is to
install one city monument sign
on the south side of kings point
drive, and a development sign on
the north side of kings point
drive.
Staff does not object to this
modification as it's consistent
with the comprehensive plan, and
the city's land development
regulations.
The third request is to modify a
condition of approval from 2017,
with regards to the project
workforce housing.
The project is required to
provide 35 dedicated workforce
housing units in the existing
remodeled apartment building.
Condition 22 of resolution
17-v-161 require the development
to record a restrictive covenant
with the number of units to be
dedicated to the workforce
housing program and their
location.
so, the resulting restrictive
covenant would give 35 specific
unit numbers.
The management company would
like a little bit more
flexibility with regard to
leasing the units.
And would like to amend the
covenant to remove the 35
specific unit numbers, while
maintaining the unit mix, and
maintaining that the units will
be located on multiple floors.
Staff does not object to this
modification.
Subject to the condition that
the applicant must record an
amended covenant in a form
accessible to the city attorney.
The final and fourth
modification, the applicant is
requesting to construct a
residential marina with 18
slips.
The property is zoned rms-2 or
medium high density residential,
and marinas are permitted
accessory use in this zoning
district to residential
development.
Staff has no objection to the
marina if the condition of
approval applies operational
limitations such as the
following.
Vessel movement is to be
restricted to the hours between
6:00 A.M. And 12:00 A.M. But can
be extended in cases of
emergency or weather events.
No fuelling or pump-out services
are to be provided.
There are no live aboards
allowed.
Proof of living in the
development is required for
leasing a slip.
Vessels cannot be rented to any
individual for any amount of
time or used for any commercial
activity including jet ski
rentals.
That the marina must be managed
by a dock moster.
In working with the applicant
and speaking with our legal
department it was determined
that the condition that's listed
in the staff report providing
for a restrictive covenant
concerning the operational
limitations I just described is
not necessary.
As the city can enforce the
limitations that I just
described in conditions through
the site plan approval and
city's code.
With that, the applicant is
present.
I'm available for any questions.
>> good evening, mayor and
members of the commission.
Akerman llp representing the
applicant.
We have a brief presentation, if
we could be put forward.
Thank you.
The planning director's report
was very comprehensive and laid
out all of the reasons for the
changes that are being
requested, and fit well within
the provisions of the city's
code.
But just to briefly repeat, next
slide, please.
The four changes are to
eliminate the cable railing
along the seawalls, to improve
the entryway signage, to modify
the workforce housing covenant
to allow greater flexibility to
evenly distribute the units
throughout the building, without
any change to the number,
quality or type of units
provided.
And to construct a previously
existing 18-slip residential
marina restricted to use by
upland owners only, and subject
to the other voluntarily
proffered conditions, as stated
by the planning director this
evening.
Before I proceed with the rest
of the presentation, I think
it's important to note that the
brunetti family has owned this
property for nearly 40 years.
And this is a long-term hold.
They have redeveloped the
property, as you know, the
existing building, building two
new residential rental
buildings.
And so they are owners.
They are not going to be
building it, selling it, and
leaving town.
They're going to be operating
it.
And so, they are more concerned
than anyone that they have a
quality property that attracts
good tenants.
We can go to the next slide,
please.
You see number one is
eliminating the cable railings
that were in the original
approved plan.
This shows the site behind the
building today.
Next slide, please.
The improved signage, which I
think the planning director has
already explained to you, so we
go to the next slide which also
shows the signage, as well.
And then if we can go to the
next slide, and I think the
planning director again, has
succinctly explained the
modifications to the workforce
housing covenant.
So I won't take your time in
going through that further at
this moment.
next slide, please.
The residential marina.
As was mentioned, or as you MAY
know, there has always been,
historically on this property,
and operating marina, which was
destroyed during a hurricane,
and now they are seeking to
rebuild it.
It is, of course, a permitted
accessory use to a residential
property.
Next slide, please.
And besides if they didn't have
a marina they'd have to change
it from marina del mar to del
mar.
That's one of the attractive
things is that it's a beautiful
waterfront property.
There you see where the marina
will be located.
Next slide, please.
And then the next slide.
This one, as you see, the use is
permitted by-right.
Wet dockage of moorage or
private noncommercial pleasure
craft in connection with any
residential use.
And this is strictly limited to
residential use.
So the proposed marina is
consistent with the definition
and will serve as permitted
by-right accessory use to the
upland residential property.
Next slide.
I won't repeat everything the
planning director said but this
slide sets forth the conditions
that we have agreed to.
And that have been as verbally
stated this evening by the
planning director.
Next slide, please.
As I think you are aware, that
the city's scope of review is
limited to the site plan review
criteria.
city staff has determined that
all of the applicant's
proposals, including the marina,
are minor site plan
modifications, that are in
compliance with the relevant
code criteria, and could have
been approved administratively.
The city manager has elected to
seek your input on this.
And finally, next slide.
Just to repeat some of the
history on this, the proposed
marina replaces what was a
longtime existing marina that
was destroyed by hurricane wilma
in 2005.
This marina fulfills the
complete vision of the wider
recently reinvigorated marina
del mar project.
And, in fact, enhances the
quality of the project and the
quality of the residential
environment at the marina.
The marina was in continuous
operation for nearly 40 years
before it was destroyed by the
hurricane.
Even after the hurricane, the
applicant has paid taxes on the
marina, since it was destroyed.
The applicant has prioritized
upland redevelopment and the
fortified seawall and now seek
to reinvest in the marina, as
well.
And finally, miami-dade county
environmental resources
management has performed a
preliminary review of the
proposed marina, and confirmed
its consistency with key
regulatory provisions.
Next slide.
So with that we ask for your
approval for these minor
modifications.
Wth me this evening, as well, a
representative of the ownership
of the property, don dissinger,
and richard roth.
We're available to answer any
questions you have and if
necessary would request brief
response to any comment.
Thank you very much.
Yes, sir?
>> my first question would be
regarding the railing on the
seawall.
Since it was your idea to have
it originally, what was the
reasoning behind having the
railing?
>> I might ask don to come
forward.
I think, I think, commissioner,
that was before they were really
focusing on the development of
marina.
And when they got to the point
of deciding they were going to
redevelop the previously
existing marina, then that
wouldn't be an appropriate
placement there.
Don?
>> we have some public speakers.
So, we can do the public
speakers --
>> you want to hold off on that?
>> yeah, we can proceed with the
public speakers.
>> sorry, gentlemen.
>> Mayor: we'll ask questions.
We'll ask questions.
Okay, well first public speaker
is don dissinger.
There you go.
You didn't have a long ride
there.
Okay.
>> so I was sworn in earlier.
I did submit my --
>> Mayor: state your name and
address for the record.
>> I'm don dissinger residence
is 100 kings point drive.
In sunny isles beach.
and I am the chief development
officer for the brunetti
organization and have been
involved with this project since
2016, in various iterations of
development.
So, to address your question,
MR. Joseph, so, in the course of
developing the project in the
early submissions, the landscape
architect proposed the railings
as part of the overall design.
By the time we developed both
the towers, and all of the
platforms for the tower, all of
the safety issues that would be
related to the higher level
buildings were built into the
building, so we have glass
railings around all the
buildings, and what we've seen
in the other areas in town is
that there's a lot of use along
the fortified seawalls where
people are enjoying firing and
doing other things, so we saw
that as an amenity to the
community now that we have the
easement for the bay walk around
all our properties.
And we see a lot of dog walking,
fishing, and things like that
already going on.
So our thought was, it's not
being required to enhance the
amenity of the new seawalls,
which are elevated higher than
the other seawalls, and quite
safe in terms of flooding and
everything else, it's just a
better look and feel for the
overall community, we thought.
And that was our reason for not
building that railing.
>> so the original idea of the
railing, it was for fancy rather
than safety?
>> no, I think ultimately, and I
can't speak for our landscape
architect, but I think in
general he felt that it was
required.
And we learned long after that
that it wasn't.
And then when we saw the use of
the bay walk, we felt it would
be better to allow it for
people -- and I will be honest,
fishing is a big thing around
saul of those areas so we see a
lot of people coming to our
property to do those things.
So that's, I think, how it
evolved.
>> okay.
So, how do you plan on keeping
small children away from the
edge of the seawall?
>> well, we have about anywhere
from six to ten inches of rise
there, along the bay walk.
And it seems like all the other
bay walks, even right adjacent
to us, where we have the
children's park, there's a good
10 feet of space, which is used
by families walking dogs and
things, between poinciana and
ours, that have very similar
situation.
So I think it's -- I think it's
a fairly safe environment.
>> so this railing wouldn't in
any way keep children away from
the seawall?
>> it might.
But I think the curb itself
keeps them on the walkway.
The bulkhead itself is too deep.
So, it just seems similar to
what we've seen elsewhere in the
city on sunny isles beach.
And we think it's kind of
compatible with the way people
use the edge, the water edge in
the community.
>> no, I understand that on many
seawalls there is no, you know,
any barrier for children.
But since you already have it
incorporated in your plan, I was
just thinking, you know, if it
is -- if there is any type of
safety involved with it, why
remove it?
>> we discussed that with our
in-house insurance and
everything.
We think it's reasonably safe as
it's currently designed.
Which is why we asked to remove
it.
>> okay.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
>> thank you.
Any other questions for me?
>> Mayor: you want to -- we'll
continue with the public
speakers.
Thank you.
-- rafael.
Please state your name and
address for the record.
>> I'm a resident of poinciana.
Sunny isles beach.
Rafael masterson.
I'm actually right across the
plan marina.
So maybe one of the questions I
have is obviously very
concerning to have that
construction, so wondering how
long that project will last, if
it is to be approved.
If I could get someone to
comment?
>> Mayor: go ahead.
We've had our seawall under
construction for quite some
time.
>> right.
>> Mayor: perhaps I don't know
if you'd like to address that or
answer that question?
>>.
[Speaker off mic]
>> Mayor: six months.
>> so as you know from my
experience living in the same
place, it took six months just
to get the permit, after permit,
after permit to get it done.
It took basically more than a
year.
And I only moved in this year to
sunny isles.
So that was one, my first
concern.
The second one we only are now
in our island 43 boats.
And the concern is safety.
So how is adding 18 boats will
increase the safety of manatees,
that's clearly not clear to me.
>> Mayor: yeah, I mean for me,
you know, I know this was
articulated, but the 18 slips
were already there.
I mean, this was already a
permitted item.
Right?
So it's not like they just --
they're creating 18 new slips.
Yes, there was a force majeure
event that created that -- that
demolished that or eviscerated
the permit.
But there were pre-existing 18
permitted slips before or when
we had ours.
So, you know, I'm not sure I see
that as a --
>> I mean I'm just concerned, if
I'm being not allowed to put a
boat on my pier, which I have a
permit to have one, and I have
one built, and at the same time
we're hearing about 18 more
boats, much larger than what I'm
planning to get, and that
suddenly is allowed.
>> Mayor: is that boat -- I
guess the -- I guess the
question then is, I mean, is
there any -- I mean is there
any -- what would the poinciana
marine slip permitting is that
related at all to the marina del
mar permitting?
isn't that part of your own --
isn't that part of your own site
plan?
>> I can't speak as to their
permitting.
But mayor, as you pointed out,
"a," there was historically this
marina there for many, many
years, for decades.
"b," remember, derm has already
preliminarily approved that.
And derm is one of the first
things they assessed is if there
would be any impact on manatee
and seagrasses.
So derm has approved it.
It's historically been there.
It's not changing in any way the
intensity of what has been
there.
>> Mayor: for me that was the
first question that I had.
Like, you know, well where do
these marina slips come?
That's why I asked the owner's
rep about that.
Then from at least what the
information that I got was that
these 18 slips were around for a
long time.
>> is there any way to get this
information publicly available
for us so we can actually
somehow study showing us in
addition to the 43 we have,
which is very limited us as a
residence of poinciana island,
and at the same time there's 18
more and that's obviously would
be safe, so just in this isle
which is really where I live,
suddenly adding 18 more boats,
much bigger than what we have in
any one of the residence there,
suddenly this make the safety of
manatees fine, compared to add
one or two boats more in our
island that is completely at the
moment restricted.
So to me, there's a proportion
that would make no sense to me
that 18 larger boats would keep
the manatees safe, which is
definitely an intent, to keep
them safe.
Not very clear to me how that's
being allowed, and what is
available for us as the public
to see and basically comment, or
at least understand better the
information.
The fact, you know, the numbers
which I have not seen anything
like that published.
>> Mayor: again, you can
respond.
But again, I think they're
separate -- I think it's a
separate consideration.
Or no?
I --
>> mayor, also, just for the
record, the derm report and
analysis is a public record.
And their finding is that it is
consistent with the manatee
protection plan.
Those of you, I think mayor
you're well familiar with it,
derm is not an easy agency.
If there were any problem they
would let us know.
It's all public record.
It's all available to you.
It's all consistent with the
manatee protection.
>> and it's online, as well.
>> Mayor: so is there any way --
can you indicate where that can
be obtained, if this gentleman
is interested in that?
>> sure.
If he gives me his contact
information I'll send him the
contact.
>> Mayor: and absolutely
cognizant of your items
presented.
>> -- six months is there any
way, six months rather than --
because obviously I'm going to
live for the next many months to
come, so is there any way to
create some sort of contract, or
the contract that would have a
very significant penalty in
case --
>> Mayor: I can't speak for the
owner.
But I will say that their
construction has been overall,
and their deliverables on a
timely manner, has been
exemplary.
I have to say their experience
has been -- I think they've -- I
think they've really performed
on their time lines.
>> I trust what you're saying.
But is there any way to include
some sort of a, you know, time
limits for them to complete that
within "x" number of months, and
basically make it accountable
for that.
>> if I could say, as with any
construction there's always
unforeseeable -- so that
wouldn't be anything that would
be feasible.
>> Mayor: I don't know if you
want to address that.
It's not really, it's not within
the scope of our inquiry.
I mean, that's beyond, you
know -- the expectations are
when they're going to complete
their construction.
>> precisely, mayor.
You pointed that out.
This is the province of the
building official in the
building department.
Follow their procedures and
such.
You also did point out that a
much larger construction
project, the redevelopment of
the entire site and the two new
buildings was timely,
efficiently and well done.
This is a very small component
of it.
But again, as mayor points out,
this is the thing to discuss now
is not germane to this.
It's a building permitting
issue.
>> Mayor: right.
And I think they're very
accessible.
[Speaker off mic]
Okay.
Do we have another public
speaker?
Eric luca.
Thank you.
No.
Good questions.
And very topical and very
relevant.
We're in poinciana.
>> hi, hello.
>> Mayor: state your name and
address.
>> eric luca.
I live in poinciana island 236
since JUNE '96.
27 years now.
I used to have my boat there.
Then I had to take it out.
So, my concern says that how
would it be that they're
claiming that in OCTOBER 26,
2005, when wind hit all of us,
and I lost my boat, matter of
fact, you lost the marina, and
then now 17 year later, you
haven't done anything, now 17
years later you're saying that
you can have -- so in that same
case when I move in poinciana,
in 2001, 2002, we have access to
everybody, the 100 units, can't
have a boat.
So if we can say that they can
use the permit for the 18
marinas, why don't we have our
own permits to have a boat in
each of our units?
this point, point number one.
So you can please -- or say this
easier.
If they want to provide this,
just give us all of us our
marina -- our access to put the
boat in that's number one.
Second, why the marina you want
to build it?
Now you want to build a marina
on the narrowest part of the
island.
Based on the main, you put a 30
foot boat there, to maneuver,
you're now going to hit my boat
with it's not feasible to do a
marina there to have a boat more
than 40 feet.
So, first of all, I don't think
you are in a situation now to
say yes or no to this will have
to take a month to study.
That's what I'm asking you is I
know that there want to be some
changes in the organization of
the city government, okay.
But this is not something that's
got to be passed now.
And again you want to do the
railing I don't care really.
If there's a marina in front I
don't care, just move it to one
side or the other where the
channel is wider.
Much wider.
On second, each of us we receive
the same permit to have a boat
in front of our unit.
And I tell you what, we cannot
say no.
>> Mayor: eric, that's not --
that's not something that the
commission can arbitrate or
decide.
>> we can try.
>> Mayor: we can't as a
commission body just allow that
every owner can have a boat --
>> with the same situation that
if I have a boat, 20 years ago,
why I cannot have a boat?
And they're saying that I have a
permit 17 years ago.
They never use it, and now they
can get it.
Something is unfair here.
It's basically unfair.
Each of us in poinciana, we have
a way to do it.
Now, okay, you got your boat.
You got your pier and
congratulations.
Even, same to you for yours,
congratulations.
I will be a commissioner next
time to have a pier on my house.
Yes.
It's fair.
I'm not being sarcastic.
>> Mayor: okay, thank you.
>> I don't have a boat or a pier
behind my house.
>> okay.
Now let me say -- MAY I add
something to the people of
marina.
If you want to improve -- my
units are right across the
parking permit, the building,
the parking building.
You know that you're allowing
harley-davidson to park on the
top floor and at 1:00 in the
morning they go around and
around and around eight floors.
One in the morning, six in the
morning.
Don't leave the bikes on the top
with the open going to the
floor.
And -- and I talk to the city.
I talk to the inspectors.
Oe of the inspectors that I'm
going to have, he told me why
don't you -- so in the next
month I'm going to request this
guy to be fired.
But that's not the response to a
person that live here.
we pay the salary of these -- so
please.
You can tell him to come I
believe at 8:30 or 9:00.
>> Mayor: thank you.
Thank you.
>> thank you.
>> Mayor: thank you.
Understood.
Okay.
Greg capra.
>> good evening.
Greg capra, 257 poinciana
island.
I'm the PRESIDENT Of the board
there.
And I have quite a bit of
knowledge about dealing with
derm and the concerns of our
residents there.
And, respect to their questions,
this particular marina really
doesn't have anything to do with
poinciana's marina.
Derm's laws, as far as I know,
what they've told us, and why we
have only 43 power boats is
because we have 4300 feet around
the island.
They allow one boat for 100
feet.
So I would assume they have 1800
feet, if they have more, they
probably would be asking for
more slips.
That being said, owners are
concerned with the construction,
how long this is going to take,
and so on.
So they have questions.
So while I'm personally not
against what they're doing, I
would ask that the commission
delay the decision so unit
owners of poinciana could gather
more information, and be
comfortable about this process
and what's going to happen.
Now you say they had a marina
before, and I would say, why
shouldn't they have a marina
now?
Eric's comment about boats being
a certain length is valid.
But that's really not your
decision.
If derm felt it was unsafe, and
they didn't mention army corps
of engineers.
And so was the army corps of
engineers involved with this?
So they had a marina before.
I don't know that they need to
be involved again.
But there's questions that need
to be asked and answered.
And, I don't know that it's so
important to make a decision
tonight versus in JANUARY, where
they could come back, could ask
questions that they want to
bring up, and provide them.
I know people had an opportunity
to be here tonight and could
have asked those questions.
I don't know if anyone else is
here.
But, it does give a little extra
time.
And I'm not against this.
But I think some other questions
need to be answered, and an
extra month really wouldn't be a
big deal to allow that to
happen.
>> Mayor: okay.
We have no other public
speakers.
So again, I'd like to just ask
the question, again, these
marina slips were pre-existing,
correct?
You had a pre-existing --
>> correct.
>> Mayor:-plan where you had 18
marina slips.
Is that correct?
>> that is correct.
>> Mayor: and that you have full
clearance with manatees, and
with wake, and with passage of
boats through that canal.
So any placement of these marina
slips, the quantity, the
ingress, the egress, the
manatee, the environmental, all
of that has been completely
vetted.
Correct?
>> all been reviewed by derm and
preliminarily approved.
>> Mayor: okay.
So derm, and the same way derm
approved that that they approved
with whatever conditions in
poinciana island.
Correct?
>> correct, mayor.
>> Mayor: so there's no issue
whatsoever with the amount of
slips, the clearance, the
ingress, the egress.
>> where they're located, no
variances, all by right within
derm's rules, within the city's
rules.
>> Mayor: and we've had plenty
of opportunity to discuss this
this evening, and there's no --
there are no other lingering
questions or any reason to --
>> oh, I have a few comments.
>> Mayor: other than whatever my
colleagues have here.
But I just, for me, that was the
sine qua non that there were 18
slips in existence and that's
why I felt all along.
It's not like you're creating
something from nothing.
>> correct, mayor.
And it is permitted as a matter
of right.
And it meets all the criteria
for site plan.
>> Mayor: and I think it will be
beautiful.
Just like the building.
So anyway.
go ahead.
Commissioner stuyvesant.
>> number one, about cable
railing.
That sidewalk is a public
sidewalk, right?
>> correct.
>> so, by us accepting to
eliminate that cable railing, if
anything happens there are we
liable for it, the city liable
in any way?
Because I don't know the answer.
>> no, I don't believe we are.
Because those cables aren't
required by the terms of our
land development regulations.
>> it was like an extra layer of
protection.
But again I just wanted to
codify that that's a public
sidewalk.
>> yes, and commissioner as
MR. Dissinger said it is
consistent with the other public
bay walk.
>> in st. Tropez, I just wanted
to make sure that we aren't
liable by saying, you know.
Number two the modification the
entryway signage I have no issue
with.
Number three with the condition,
I have some issues.
Because you have 35 units right
now for workforce housing.
Right?
>> correct.
>> what is the price, kind of,
of those, do you know?
>> well, the way the workforce
housing unit pricing goes is
it's set based upon the median
income for a family or an
individual in dade county.
And it can't be -- that is, it
cannot be higher than what would
be housing for someone at 120%
of ami, adjusted median income.
Which it would be 30% of that
income.
So for instance, if somebody --
and it's scaled also based on
whether it's one person, two
people, three people, four
people.
>> right.
>> so if it's a family of four,
and the person earns 120% of
ami, which would be I think
about $90,000, then I think that
the total rent there couldn't be
more than $27,000.
And that's the very, very high
end.
It was a -- two people, it would
be less.
If their income was $70,000, it
would be 30% of that.
So that's the cap.
They don't actually control the
rent.
The rent is controlled by the
income of the tenant.
>> great.
But I know those 35 units are
all over the building.
>> correct.
>> how you have like per floor,
or and what if you are expecting
to do now, you want to put them
all on the first, second, third
floor?
>> in fact, good question.
And that actually prompted, I
think, the desire of ownership
for the change.
Over time tenants will come,
tenants will go.
In order to be able to make sure
they can accommodate them in
various parts of the building,
they wanted to have a
flexibility to move the units
around.
Whereas if you're locked in
specific units, you know, then
those will always be -- I mean,
these workforce units will be
integrated with all the units
throughout the entire complex.
So it gives them more
flexibility and it works a lot
better.
>> but I'm really concerned with
that item, because people in
sunny isles because everything
is going higher and higher in
the prices.
And if you have the 35 units
right now, very well described
that you have, I don't see what
would be the difference of
changing the numbers of having
it open.
What I'm scared is right now you
might have five units on the top
floor with a very nice view and
then we can move those five
units to the bottom floor with
no view.
I don't know --
>> first of all the covenant
requires, no matter what, there
always must be 35 units.
>> correct.
>> so this is not changing the
number of units whatsoever.
But what it is doing is as we
realize is the flexibility to
say, as to where the units are,
because tenants come and go.
And, you know, you might want to
put a tenant in another unit, a
new tenant in another unit.
It just -- and that's candidly,
the way, I think most of the
workforce housing unit
allocations go.
>> commissioner, just to add to
that, as part of our workforce
housing ordinance, they're
required to submit an annual
report every OCTOBER to my
department that's going to be
reviewed.
And in that report it does need
to list every unit number.
So at that time, you know, if we
see that they're all on floor
one, well that's in violation of
their covenant.
They need to be on multiple
floors.
So we will be monitoring the
workforce housing program.
>> I understand.
I'm just not comfortable with
that item.
And the last one about the
marina, I see my neighbors here
in poinciana, and I understand
why they're upset, because the
way the marina slips are managed
in poinciana, is very
questionable, to say the least.
Some people would even call it
fraudulent what they're doing
with the marina slips in
poinciana island.
So I understand their concerns,
really.
But having said that the numbers
don't lie.
You have 32.7 units per slip.
Because you have a total of 589
units between the three
buildings.
So I want to repeat.
You have almost 600 units, and
18 slips.
So that give you per slip 32.7
units.
So I don't know how it's going
to be the dynamics you are going
to be using to ashrine the
slips, it's going to be a
lottery or whatever.
But having said that, I didn't
see anywhere, maybe you said but
I didn't read it, the limits to
the size of the boats.
And also, the marina was there
you said back almost 20 years
ago.
I don't feel comfortable right
now with bringing this item and
approving this item the way it's
presented.
So I leave it to my colleagues
for further comments.
>> Mayor: I don't see that, you
know, delaying this has any
value or merit.
I feel that, you know, I'm very
comfortable with all four items.
The workforce housing covenant
has changed to give more
flexibility, but it doesn't
mitigate the number of units.
It just, you know, is how the --
how the rentals work.
So it's a requirement.
It's a covenant.
And it's -- they're always going
to have those 34 workforce
housing units.
For me, that's a nonissue.
It's just very minor.
The signage, obviously, is
minor.
The cable.
And for the marina, again, if
it's pre-existing, and you've
got the slips, and you can get
it permitted, and, you know, I
think it will beautify the area
and I'm comfortable with that,
as well.
>> so I have some questions.
So, obviously you had a marina
there before.
That was a long time ago.
Things change.
So I just want to know if it's
comparable, and the size of the
boats that it will house.
And if it's going to be the same
dimensions as before.
And if it's going to go in the
same place.
Because I know that one of the
poinciana residents said that
it's going to be placed in the
narrowest point of that canal,
let's say.
So that, I have those questions.
And yeah, I'll let you answer
those.
>> commissioner, well, it is
where the marina was located
before.
Remember, derm would only
approve it -- is approving it
also based on the fact that
there were historic 18 slips
there.
>> okay.
>> the length of boats is also
regulated by how far out you
could put the mooring
ing
ing poles.
Which are regulated by the city,
as well as by derm.
These are not very -- we are not
seeking variances to extend them
so that they can be farther out.
>> okay.
>> so these are -- this is
essentially what was
historically always there.
>> okay.
All right.
Yeah I'm just a little
concerned, you know, with the
geography of that canal.
Obviously you have people in
front of you.
There's a lot more that say, you
know, possibility of echoes.
And regarding the time limits
that we're imposing.
6:00 A.M. To 12:00 A.M.,
correct?
Is that a citywide imposition?
Or --
>> that's something we
volunteered.
There's no limit.
>> how is that even going to be
enforced?
You're going to tell someone you
cannot go out fishing at 4:00 in
the morning, you have to wait
until 6:00.
Or you cannot come back from the
beach, you have to wait outside
in the middle of the water until
6:00 A.M. To come back.
i don't see how that's going to
be enforced.
>> well, you have a series of
fines if it's slated.
We have the advantage of this
not being a condominium
property.
This is a centrally managed
property.
These are apartment unit owners
and those are the only people
who are going to have slips
there, apartment dwellers, not
owners.
And they can be -- they're
subject to rules as well not
only of the city's rules, but
the association, the
management's rules for the
building.
There's more enforcement that
you'll be able to have for this
than if it was a typical
building where a variety of
people own the slips.
They own the slips.
They're responsible.
They deal with it.
And I would point out, I mean,
it is important to point out,
because the discussion's
beginning to get, you know,
somewhat candidly, afield of
what really is properly before
this.
Remember, this marina is a
matter of right.
And the only thing that it can
be judged by is the criteria in
your code for site plan
approval.
And your planning director, and
you find that in page 3 of the
staff report, we meet all of
this criteria.
Because we meet all of this
criteria, there is no basis for
not approving this.
That's -- notwithstanding that,
the manager and the planning
director have asked us to
voluntarily -- sought us to
voluntarily proffer additional
conditions, further restrictions
beyond what the law requires.
And we have agreed to do that,
voluntarily.
>> so, okay, I understand that,
you know, you have the right for
this.
But I live in winston towers.
Right?
We have a marina around there,
and we don't have anything in
front of it that will bounce off
the noise.
But still we get complaints, you
know, just from resident
perspective, obviously, are you
suggesting or telling us that
you're going to manage the
behavior of these residents that
have their boats?
>> absolutely.
>> your management, let's say?
>> absolutely.
Remember, this property has
full-time, 24 hour management.
>> okay.
>> and security.
So, this will have greater
control than any private
property, any condominium
property, because you've got --
and they also have the ability,
not only your enforcement of the
city's code, but they have the
ability to yank someone's right
to use a slip.
As well.
So their hands-on management,
remember, the brunettis have
owned this property for almost
40 years, they built this
property to own it for the
long-term, they have a greater
interest in making sure that
this is well run than almost
anybody would, candidly.
Because they don't want to --
they're going to have lots of
tenants there.
They're not going to want their
own tenants disturbed.
As commissioner stuyvesant
pointed out, you know, at most
one out of 32 units are going to
have a slip.
They're not going to want to
have the other 31 unit owners
per slip inconvenienced.
So, you -- this is the best
situation you could have
candidly for a managed marina.
>> Mayor: is there a limitation
on the size of the boat that
they put in there?
Because boats -- there are
[Inaudible] Prescribed?
>> I appreciate all the
concerns.
And I'm listening to them,
because we, as an ownership,
want to protect all the citizens
when we have this development.
Some we went to derm, and we
developed the design, and
engineered it within the
described dimensions of the
waterway.
The slips are designed and
engineered precisely as told and
directed by derm.
The lentd of the boat, the slip,
the mooring poles, the width of
the canal, the channel, the
depth and size of every boat on
the slip is described precisely
in the drawings that we
presented so that everybody
understands how many boats we
have.
What the size will be.
And what derm would allow.
And the width -- everything's
engineered within the width of
the waterway and prescribed by
derm because of the width.
>> no my concern is more from a
resident perspective.
you're sitting there, somebody's
taking their boat out at 6:00
A.M. And they're going to wake
you up, you know, it's just not
pleasant.
You know.
And we're a very crowded city.
There's a lot of noise solution
around.
You know we're talking a few
weeks ago.
And we've been talking
throughout the whole year about
noise ordinances.
You know, I'm just looking at it
from a perspective of having a
good night's sleep.
Not being, you know, bothered by
these boats and all that.
So, I know that you have the
right to build this.
I'm just asking that you manage
it well.
And that you're considerate, and
that you're a good neighbor.
Because you have poinciana in
front of you.
You have other people.
Noise is bouncing all around
here.
I don't know, do you live here
in the city?
>> I don't, commissioner.
But I've come --
>> you're well aware.
I know you're very familiar with
the city.
>> my dad had a drug store in
this city in the 1950s and 60s.
>> you had a drug store here?
>> yes.
The one that has the was like
the watermelon shaped zone.
>> that became a restaurant?
>> when that shopping center was
built by the family in the '50s
my dad had a big drug store
there.
I've been coming to this city
since I was a little baby.
>> all right.
>> commissioner lama, I think
it's important to point out that
nowhere else in the city are
there time limits about boats
coming in and going out.
Okay?
They voluntarily have agreed to
the 6:00 to 12:00.
It's the only marina in the city
where there are time
requirements.
>> because I know that the one
in winston towers, and there's
another one that, you know, we
get a lot of noise complaints
for.
>> but you also have our
asurance, commissioner, that we
will -- this will be heavily
managed, well managed.
It's a family asset.
And they want a good
environment.
[Speaker off mic]
>> it doesn't make sense.
>> party boats and all that.
>> no.
[Speaker off mic]
>> just a couple of questions.
For me it's pretty clear that
you meet the criteria.
Whether we love it or we don't,
the criteria is the criteria.
But I had a question about the
length of the lease of the
slips.
How does it go, per when you
rent the unit?
And then if you have a weight
list and how do you move up that
list, do you have to get your
neighbor evicted?
How does that work?
>> so the reason we're
proceeding with the project in
this is because we weren't
certain that there would be
interest for all of the slips.
We're finding out that there are
some tenants now that are coming
and are interested in those.
So they're one-year leases.
And I think one of the things
that's very important to us, we
developed a whole list of marina
rules, which we submitted as
part of this application.
Our greatest concern is there
isn't partying going on on the
boats.
So we have a very strict list of
rules.
Because our goal is to protect
even the residents who don't
rent.
But it's a first come, first
serve basis.
And yes, there would be a wait
list.
And --
>> so if I come in, and I come
in with my boat and I move in.
>> right.
>> so I get my slip.
And if I follow all the rules,
you don't have any problems with
me, as long as I keep renewing
my lease, I get to keep renewing
the slip?
>> absolutely.
>> okay.
>> absolutely.
>> and I had another question.
Okay.
I saw in the report, you have to
be a resident there to rent.
Right?
>> that's correct.
>> but -- so you have to show
that you're -- you have to prove
that you're a resident.
But do you have to prove that
it's your boat?
>> yes.
>> okay.
>> you have to not only prove
it's your boat.
You can't rent somebody else's
boat and park it there.
>> that's where I'm going.
>> none of that.
All of that is policed.
We have a licensed marine dock
master that will serve us in the
leasing, and the filing of their
requirement to meet our lease
and rule requirements.
And that will be vetted by
management.
And then once you have a lease,
it's yours.
On a renewable basis.
>> okay.
Okay.
Those were my questions.
Again, to mitigate the party
boat issues, and the other, but
it's -- it's to the interest of
your property, and your
representation, and your
property values and all of that
to manage it well.
Okay.
Thank you.
>> yes, thank you.
So just for the information of
the poinciana residents, I've
particularly looked at the
length of the -- the width of
the waterway and it appears to
be 178 feet.
>> yeah.
And it's on our drawings, I
would like to answer you yes
that's exactly what it is.
But I'd have to look at the
drawings.
But the waterway on our drawings
is defined in each location
relative to our slip.
And derm has reviewed those
locations and minimized the
length of our slips and mooring
positions to reflect the
requirements of derm and the
channel.
>> so your slips are 24 feet
currently.
And what are they four pilings,
right, every six feet you have a
piling?
So, in temgs of the walkway
going down --
>> no talking about the t-slip.
>> yes.
>> so you'd have four pilings.
At least.
>> yes.
>> probably four pilings at
each, six feet.
So, so, the maximum length of
the boat would probably be
between 45 and 60?
>> no.
Our boats are less than 40 feet.
>> okay.
>> no boat is greater than 40
feet.
>> okay.
>> and we're not allowed to do
that because that's a derm
requirement with our design.
>> okay.
So there's no issue with turning
in the canal?
>> no.
All those --
>> you have 178 feet, if you
have a 40-plus boat, it's not an
issue for anyone.
>> thank you.
>> Mayor: do we have any more
comments or questions?
Or are we ready to --
[Speaker off mic]
Okay, so that being said,
questions, comments, do we have
a motion?
>> I'll make a motion.
>> Mayor: commissioner joseph.
>> I'll second.
>> Mayor: second, vice mayor
viscarra.
Rop call --
>> voice vote.
>> Mayor: all in favor.
[Ayes]
>> no.
I vote no.
>> Mayor: okay.
4-1.
>> 4-1.
>> thank you very much, mayor
and commissioners.
Look forward to the opening of
this project, which will be
facilitated by your vote
tonight.
Thank you.
>> good luck.
Thank you.
>> Mayor: okay.
Item 7-a.
>> 7-a is an ordinance of the
city commission of the city of
sunny isles beach, florida,
amending ordinance no. 2022-595,
approving budget amendment
number ba 2223-01 to the city's
operating and capital
improvement budget for the
2022-2023 fiscal year general
fund, street maintenance, and
construction fund, building
fund, capital projects, fund,
stormwater operations fund,
authorizing the city manager to
do all things necessary to
implement the terms and
conditions of this ordinance,
providing for an effective date.
And this is first reading.
>> honorable mayor, vice mayor
and commission, this budget
amendment is necessary for the
following reasons.
To record cost of living
adjustments in all the city
departments, to modify the risk
management budget for the
increase in mid 22-23 insurance
renewal that was approved.
However when we did the budget,
we did not have those final
numbers.
And then the last one is to
appropriate additional funds for
the golden shores utility
undergrounding.
>> Mayor: no public speakers.
Questions?
Or comments?
>> -- comfortable when different
items together.
Some of it has to do with the
cost of living, and insurance,
and with the golden shores.
I would rather have each one and
vote each one separately.
So that's my suggestion for
going forward.
>> okay.
Generally, budget amendments,
when they're determined to be
needed, it's for what's
determined to be needed at that
time.
But I understand.
>> could you please give us
the -- the amount of money for
each of the three you just
mentioned?
>> sure.
So the first one in all the city
departments that amounts to
$520,000.
>> that's the C.O.L.A.
The risk management is, hold on
one second.
That is approximately $260,000.
And then the last one is
$589,000.
>> that's the golden shores.
589.
[Speaker off mic]
>> the insurance is related to
the property insurance renewal.
>> okay.
[Speaker off mic]
>> Mayor: comments, questions?
That being said, do we have a
motion?
>> motion.
>> Mayor: so moved.
>> second.
>> Mayor: second vice mayor
viscarra.
all in favor.
[Ayes]
Voice vote?
>> roll call, mayor.
Sorry.
Commissioner joseph?
>> yes.
>> commissioner lama?
>> yes.
>> commissioner stuyvesant?
>> no.
>> vice mayor viscarra?
>> yes.
>> mayor goldman?
>> Mayor: yes.
>> the ordinance passes on first
reading 4-1.
Second reading will be scheduled
for JANUARY 19th, 2023.
>> thank you.
>> Mayor: thank you.
Item 10-a.
>> 10-a is a resolution
approving a first amendment to
the project agreement with keith
and associates, for civil
engineering and landscape
architectural services for bella
vista park.
>> good evening, mayor,
commissioners, city staff.
This item before you is with our
consult and engineer keith and
associates at bella vista park.
As part of the original proposal
we had a design fee for a
seawall.
Their consultant, their
subconsultant for that work had
backed out of it because they
basically gave them the wrong
number.
So this budget, or this item
allows them to subcontract with
another seawall consultant for
the seawall design.
And it also includes all the
construction administration
we're going to need on the
project, which was not in the
original proposals.
>> Mayor: we have a public
speaker.
>> ari steiger 462 atlantic
island.
Is this going to be a pickleball
court?
What is it going to be?
I have -- to do civil
engineering on a small plot like
this for $250,000.
It's I think way, way overpriced
for this --
>> ari, I think you are
referring to 10-b.
This is 10-b bella vista.
>> so 10-a is $95,400.
That's for what?
What is $95,400?
>> the project is a marina, and
park, at bella vista which is
located at 500, the city park
property.
On the waterfront.
Under the bridge.
That's what bella vista is.
That's for seawall consultant
designer and permitting and
construction.
>> it's way, way --
>> it's also for the
construction administration for
the project.
So it's in basically three
pieces.
The design is about $35,000.
The construction admin is about
$35,000 for the seawall project.
And it's another 30 for the
engineer to do his contruction
administration for the property,
also.
>> I'm building a seawall right
now.
One in boca, and one in fort
lauderdale.
It's 125 length.
And I'm paying $110,000 for
everything.
We should get a contractor for
the seawall, he should design
it, including in the price.
That's
[Speaker off mic]
>> well that's a different way
to address the project.
But we're not doing it that way.
>> ari --
>> our project is $30,000 for
the design.
>> ari, $125,000 includes the --
>> everything.
>> the designer that did the
derm work for you, as well?
And that was the person that did
the derm work, as well?
>> everything.
And you have my seawall,
[Speaker off mic]
>> Mayor: thank you.
Okay.
We're just focused on item 10-a
bella vista park, correct?
>> yes.
>> Mayor: okay any other
comments?
[Inaudible]
Okay do we have a motion?
>> motion.
>> Mayor: so moved.
>> second.
>> Mayor: all in favor.
[Ayes]
Item 10-b.
>> 10-b is a resolution
approving the project agreement
with keith and associates to
provide civil engineering and
landscape architect services for
the intracoastal court sports
complex.
>> so this is the property on
150 8th street going north to
159th street where we're adding
the additional property from --
that's available from the marina
one developer to the north of
what used to be the ritz sales
trailer.
So this is a combined total
contract for this to basically
double the size of the project.
>> Mayor: that's a good thing.
>> so this will allow us to get
back to some conceptuals on what
we can do with the whole piece.
>> Mayor: okay.
We have no other speakers other
than ari who has already spoken
his piece.
You want to speak on that, too?
[Speaker off mic]
>> ari, can you come up to the
microphone, please?
>> Mayor: don't we have our
own --
>> isn't keith --
>> to do I don't know what,
landscaping architect, design of
the property.
That's no construction or
anything.
>> no.
This is for the design -- the
feasibility and design work to
develop the plans to go out to
bid to build a park.
[Speaker off mic]
Overall this is going to be
about an acre and a half.
>> again should bid it out and
not depend on one architect.
>> we don't bid out
architectural engineering
services.
>> you should.
You'll save a lot of money.
>> that's not allowed for city
work.
>> Mayor: ari we have an
approved vendor.
We have an approved list.
>> we hire --
>> Mayor: it's not on that type
of bidding process.
>> we hire consultants and
evaluate them and --
>> a waste of money.
>> obtain a proposal.
>> and that's a maximum, right?
it doesn't mean that it's going
to be that amount.
It can be less than that.
It's a maximum of $161,000.
>> correct.
>> Mayor: okay.
We have no other -- everyone, do
we have any other comments from
the dais, our colleagues?
Any other comments?
Do I have a motion?
>> motion.
>> Mayor: so moved.
Commissioner stuyvesant.
Second?
Do I have a second?
>> second.
>> Mayor: second, commissioner
lama.
All in favor.
[Ayes]
>> Mayor: thank you, rick.
Item 10-c.
>> 10-c is a resolution
rejecting all proposals received
for request for proposal number
22-09-01 for restaurant lease
and operations at 18050 collins
avenue.
>> good evening, honorable
mayor, and vice mayor, and
commissioners.
Tonight I will detail the
procurement process for the
subject rfp, in addition I will
be providing the city manager's
recommendation.
On SEPTEMBER 9th, 2022, the city
released the request for
proposals, also known as an rfp
was released on demand star.
20 vendors registered as a plan
holder to receive automatic
updates regarding this rfp.
For those of you who are not
familiar with demand star,
demand star is a recognized
procurement database platform
with thousands of registered
vendors according to their
commodity code.
In addition to demand star, the
rfp was e-mailed to over 400
restaurants, listed on the
florida restaurant and lodging
association, and the greater
miami convention and visitors
database.
The rfp was also e-mailed --
>> sorry.
>> Mayor: thank you.
[Laughter]
>> the rfp was also e-mailed to
approximately 15 interested
vendors who contacted the city,
requesting to be added to the
vendor's list.
The city held a non-mandatory
sunshine preproposal conference
and site visit to the location
on SEPTEMBER 20th, 2022.
In which seven interested
vendors attended the meeting.
The two dates for the submittals
was OCTOBER 20th, 2022, no later
than 11:00 A.M.
On OCTOBER 20th, the city
clerk's office received two
proposals by the said deadline
in response to the rfp.
The two proposals was one
pantheon gastrobarn and prime 29
inc.
The evaluation committee
appointed by the city manager
was composed of three city
employees, which was the
assistant city manager, the
planning and zoning director,
and our senior accountant.
The evaluation committee met to
review and rank the two
proposals on NOVEMBER 3rd, 2022
on the fourth floor conference
room.
The meeting was posted on the
city's website as a sunshine
public meeting.
Based off the criteria on page
31 of the rfp solicitation, the
committee evaluated and ranked
pantheon gastrobar as the
highest ranked firm.
After consideration and
reviewing the committee's
recommendation the city manager
finds that it is in the best
interest of the city to reject
all proposals.
Therefore, if you have any
questions regarding the
procurement process, I'll be
more than happy to address them.
But if not, I will turn it over
to the city manager, if he
wishes to expand on his
recommendation.
>> mayor, vice mayor, members of
the commission.
I felt that as if, with the
number of bids that we had, we
only had two viable bids, and I
didn't think it in the best
interest of the city to put us
into a contract for ten years
based on only two viable bids.
So with that we would ask your
guidance in rejecting the bids,
and placing the property again
out to bid, if that's your
desire.
Thank you.
>> Mayor: we have two public
speakers.
>> hi.
[Inaudible] Cols avenue.
We own family business, it's a
kosher restaurant.
We are rated the number one
restaurant in new york city as
of now.
Located, we have kosher
clientele and nonkosher
clientele, as well.
And I would like the opportunity
to proceed across the street.
And [Indiscernible].
I think sunny isles is an
upscale nice for kosher
restaurant, and it could be
kosher and nonkosher for other
clients, as well.
>> just to clarify.
You're not one of the two
vendors?
>> no.
Yes.
>> okay.
Just wanted to clarify.
Thank you.
>> Mayor: so if and when it
shows up for rebid you're
certainly welcome to participate
so that we can have a wider
sampling.
>> 100%.
>> Mayor: -- viable vendors
rather than just the two that
submitted.
>> 100% I would like that.
-- spoke to before and I
explainedwhat kind of clientele
we actually host, commissioners,
mayors, the PRESIDENT, and on
and on and on.
>> Mayor: thank you very much.
>> thank you.
>> Mayor: alejandra amada.
>> hi, good evening.
Thank you to all the commission
and mayor to introduce myself.
My name is alejandro, I'm a real
estate advisor for b&e
entertainment restaurant group,
and I come here to recommend
adopt the resolution 22-09-01.
To our group to introduce
ourselves as well, and for the
space for 18050 collins avenue.
I see that my client has
experience for over 20 years, or
25 years in miami beach, in the
beach miami location.
It's the greatest beach, and
going to be a great project for
sunny isles beach.
>> Mayor: thank you.
>> did you bid before?
>> no.
>> okay.
>> and we would like to want to
adopt the resolution in order to
have the procurement in this
case.
>> okay.
>> Mayor: thank you.
>> thank you.
>> Mayor: I have another from
your group, I guess elva.
>> good evening, MADAM Mayor,
commissioners.
I'm the director of
communications for the
restaurant group as well as my
colleague alejandro for like for
you to support the resolution,
the adoption of the resolution
for the rejection, provided that
that happens, our group, 25
years in miami beach, received
the key of the city of miami
beach and soon to reopen the
news cafe, our group would like
to, I mean we'll definitely --
we were not aware of the bid.
And but definitely provided you
adopt this resolution, we will
definitely provide ours.
Thank you.
>> Mayor: thank you so much.
Thank you.
Okay.
Do we have any other comments,
or are we going to take a
motion?
>> can -- if we decide not to go
with the pantheon gastrobar can
we get maybe direction to start
the bidding process immediately.
Now how long -- how does that
work?
If we get approved?
>> mayor, as part of the
discussion we'd like some
direction on whether we should
continue with the current lease
that we have of the space right
now.
>>.
>> Mayor: I mean in my
understanding part of the
impediment or difficulty in this
process was because there's
construction going on with the
garage.
Right?
And it makes it difficult to
really, you know, cars,
construction, and, you know,
interference.
I think that was part of it, to
allow to get that -- get that
building finally constructed
-
before we --
>> that's correct.
There's some pre-existing
approvals that will take up the
west side of the property.
Which would encumber the
property from the perspective of
having a dumpster and things
like that.
So we currently have an option
with our existing tenant to
extend the lease for six months
up to a year at a rate of
$20,000 a month.
>> Mayor: which would, you know,
more than cover.
I think the issue really is
while that construction's going
on it's difficult for any
restaurant to really come in,
and, you know, effectively open
up.
I mean, that's part of it.
Is, you know --
>> but the fact that we have two
residents here that are
interested, they know the
conditions, as well.
And even with the process, it
takes time, right?
Like you have to announce it,
and prepare, et cetera.
So, what would be the time frame
to start all over again that
process?
>> to release the solicitation
process, at least to advertise
and release a minimum of 30
days.
And that's minimum.
>> correct.
>> Mayor: when is that garage
going to be open?
Are we talking six months from
now?
Or eight months?
How long --
>> the estimate is a year.
So by DECEMBER of next year.
If not sooner.
>> MR. City manager, when tony
roma's was easing the property,
what was their rent, do you
recall?
>> I think it was 20,000 plus a
percentage.
>> so it's not -- it's not a
revenue, it's really more
because of the staging and the
construction of the garage --
>> the city would be at a
deficit to -- if we leased it
under those conditions, we
wouldn't get -- be able to get
the maximum amount.
>> the other part is that the
city would have to pay the
taxes, and we're in negotiations
with the current tenant that
would require them to pay the
taxes, depending upon the length
of their next lease with us.
>> but right now they're --
>> correct.
They're scheduled to vacate at
the end of the month.
>> and they're interested in
staying for another year?
>> yes, they are.
In conjunction with the
construction.
>> I mean, again, that's
probably why we didn't get a lot
of bids.
Right?
Because no -- it's unrealistic
to think that a restaurant, even
if they got in right away, you
know, whether they could get in,
and get in the construction and
interference in that area.
>> -- out of the city, as well.
>> construction inside and to
get ready.
>> so really doesn't make sense
for us to resubmit it at this
point except to the current
persons --
>> Mayor: that's my thought.
>> stay with this situation
until --
>> Mayor: it's a --
>> -- garage construction is
complete.
>> Mayor: it's a disservice to
go immediately into a, you know,
a bidding process for that
space, given the construction
and the impediment that's
occurring.
>> but remember that the
leasing, the bidding process
would take like three months.
And once we decide who's going
to be there they need like four
to six months also to get ready
for construction themselves.
>> yeah, but --
>> yeah but it's going to happen
regardless.
Earlier or later.
So they're going to need the
time to build.
So do we have one construction
going on or have two
construction.
So maybe they can finish at the
same time.
And at the time that the
apartment is ready then the
restaurant can be opened.
>> right.
But in any event this is not the
moment to take bids.
Because the garage is not that
far along.
>> Mayor: for me, I think we
should, you know, reach out for
another six months.
We can start the bidding process
in six months maybe --
>> but why do it --
>> the tenant, because they
would be responsible for paying
the taxes, has requested a
minimum of a six month
extension.
The taxes are approximately
$60,000 on the space.
So if the tenant vacates then we
will be responsible for paying
the taxes for this next year.
>> but they have no other
opportunity to put their offices
anywhere.
So I think they need us more
than we need them.
>> Mayor: for me I think we
should, you know, I think we
should [Inaudible]
>> yeah, I would think five
months we could reopen the
bidding process, and be at a
good -- at a good, you know,
look-see situation.
>> how long does the bidding
process take?
What you just walked us through,
how long did that take?
>> I'll give you the schedule on
the existing rfp.
So the release was SEPTEMBER
9th.
The release that we released it
on demand star to the public.
>> so three months.
Okay.
>> okay I have my thoughts, too.
So I think we should desist from
making tony roma's or the old
tony roma's a restaurant.
I think we should use it for
office space.
We're super crowded on the third
floor.
And if you look at it from a
productivity standpoint, I think
that if we move some people
there, that that will work
better.
Okay?
We're not in the business of
being landlords.
Okay?
We've had bad experiences with
tony roma's.
Okay.
We only got small percentage on
the dollar.
For that rent that they owed us.
And then look at turnberry sales
office.
With this administration --
>> -- the city's --
>> I'm not saying it's the
city's fault.
But, but we should stay focused
on what our mission is.
And what our business is.
And I think we should move -- we
should use that.
It's a great space.
We should use it as office
space.
And forget about having a
restaurant there.
I mean, there's restaurants
here.
And that's not our business.
I mean, if we tie ourselves up
for a ten-year lease, I mean
right now we're having issues
with space.
I mean, I don't see why we have
to make it a restaurant there.
>> Mayor: alex recognizing your
comments [Inaudible].
>> that's not even the issue.
>> it is.
>> it's actually both.
Because, they would have to
leave these premises on or
before DECEMBER 31st.
So if you want an extension --
>> I thought --
>> but they need six more months
in order to agree to pay the
taxes for the coming year.
[Inaudible]
They're asking for a six-month
minimum extension.
So if you want to approve this
item, and then understand or
give the manager the authority
to go ahead and negotiate so
that it starts on JANUARY the
1st, and come back to you in
JANUARY to ratify that lease.
>> listen, nothing's going to
happen before six months and
then we get 20k per month
correct if not more if they're
going to move more people in
there.
And then they pay our taxes.
Why not?
And then we decide whether we
make it a restaurant or not.
My idea is no we make it office
space eventually.
I mean, why tie ourselves up for
ten years with a restaurant
contract.
So, but anyhow.
But for now, short-term, yeah,
six month contract, and they pay
our taxes.
>> six months I feel it's a no
brainer.
>> what ma'am?
[Inaudible]
>> Mayor: we can pass a motion
to, you know, run out to bid,
and then also give the manager
direction to enter into a six
month lease.
>> before we do, I do want to
note I think we have to look --
and I think right now it's a low
risk, it makes sense, I get it.
But I do feel that for the
businesses to comply, and met
the deadlines that jumped
through the hoops, and I'm
sorry -- I'm sorry if it feels
like it's wasted time and
effort.
So I apologize for that.
But this is where we're at.
I mean, I -- I think it's -- I
think it -- I think it's what
makes sense to do.
But I'm sorry about the wasted
time and resources.
For the -- for the bidders.
>> I don't actually --
>> I'm sock with it.
>> because four months we're
going to open it up to bidding.
>> right, I know.
>> -- we haven't said that yet.
>> we have to do that.
>> Mayor: and we receive the
income sometime.
>> the whole point in the first
place --
>> it was to provide --
>> I like the idea of keeping
the property income producing.
We don't have other in taxes
other, you know, we have very
limited sources of -- the city
of revenue.
So I like the idea of having a
tenant, and right now we do.
And that meets our primary
purpose, if we brought in a
restaurant tomorrow, we would
not be receiving that rent right
away.
Right?
Because it would be that period
where they're building out or
whatever.
So we don't lose apparently.
We keep what we have.
We even get somebody to pay our
taxes.
To me that makes sense and I'm
okay with it.
And I would move to, you know,
go ahead and reject it, and --
>> what's the other part, what
do you need?
>> I would like to go into a
rebid in three months.
>> three months.
Four months.
>> Mayor: if we enter into a six
month lease I don't know if we
can rebid in three months.
Do we need to get into that --
>> we are bidding right now and
it's leased.
>> we could -- we could bid in
three months' time but then we
would not bring it back to you
until the termination of the
lease.
>> which would be six months.
>> which would be six months
minimum.
>> so --
>> Mayor: the garage or
whatever, I mean, I just don't
want to put people, make people
jump through hoops twice.
>> yeah, but we can't have this
tied --
>> but I don't think we can put
the three months on it.
I think we can do the three
month piece when we know what's
going on.
>> I agree --
>> I think as we watch the
garage develop, and we'll have a
better idea of whether we can
actually put it out for bid.
>> and it MAY be three months.
>> it could be delays, as well,
on the garage.
>> and then, you know --
>> you never know with
construction.
>> Mayor: -- that was the whole
purpose or the rationale for
this, you know, leasing out the
tony roma space.
If we're -- that as well.
But again the construction of
the garage, which really intends
to run into a restaurant
operation.
>> that's my motion.
>> Mayor: so moved.
>> to reject, and to proceed
with the six month lease with
the current tenant.
So long as they pay our taxes.
>> Mayor: okay.
Do I have a second?
>> second.
>> Mayor: second.
All in favor.
>> hold on.
I have a question.
Will this include -- go out to
rebid?
>> no.
>> put an rfp again?
So we're just voting on
rejecting the current proposal.
Correct?
We're talking about extending
the lease to the current ten
and.
For six months.
And then obviously they will pay
the taxes.
>> and nothing stops --
>> but I don't want to vote
on -- I don't think that should
be a restaurant.
I think that should be office
space.
Yeah, all right.
No I just want to make sure.
I'll second if that's the case.
>> Mayor: second.
All in favor.
[Ayes]
>> no.
I vote no.
>> Mayor: okay.
4-1.
Motion passes.
Item 10-e.
>> before we continue,
commissioners, just to remind
you all, please speak into the
mic.
We have the recording that is
having difficulty picking up
your voices, and also members of
the audience in the back.
thank you.
10-d is a resolution ratifying
the preach and execution of the
opioid settlement participation
agreement with walmart.
>> Mayor: city manager?
>> mayor, vice mayor, members of
the commission, this is similar
to the opioid settlements that
we've done in the past and we're
starting to see a number of
these from different
organizations.
So as part of this, we're
requesting the ability to
approve these going forward.
>> Mayor: no public speakers.
Any comments?
Okay.
Do we have a motion?
>> so moved.
>> second.
>> Mayor: all in favor.
[Ayes]
Okay.
Item 10-e.
>> 10-e is a resolution
approving an in-kind donation to
iprep academy north.
>> Mayor: equal opportunity stop
the bleed kit.
Commissioner joseph?
>> yes.
Being that we have 60 students,
at iprep north, I requested that
the same accommodation be made
to iprep north regarding bleed
kits.
And it was accepted by the city
so we have 30 bleed kits going
to iprep north.
And I appreciate the approval by
the city.
>> so moved.
>> Mayor: so moved?
>> second.
>> Mayor: all until favor --
>> we have some public speakers.
>> Mayor: ari steiger.
>> ari steiger, 262 atlantic
island.
I don't think the city should be
a charity for any high schools.
My two grand daughters are
going -- why don't we donate it
to them, too?
Everybody comes and do
donations.
There's enough money to pay for
whatever they need.
Why the city has got to donate
money to them?
The two ladies from the city of
north miami came and want a
donation, I don't even remember
for what.
What is it, every time they need
a committee or whatever that
comes for a donation for the
city?
Unacceptable?
>> that was turned down.
And that was an absolute error.
>> there's more schools, dade
county has the money to pay for
it if they need it.
My nephew is the cfo for dade
county.
Want me to talk to him and
donate the money?
>> we've already given bleed
kits to --
>> there's no reason this city
should donate to any other
school but norman edelcup
school.
There's no reason for it.
It's our money.
It's our taxpayer money.
>> these are our students that
go --
>> my grand daughters are going
to a school in miami.
Why don't we donate to them too?
We can't donate to any school in
north miami beach or anyone who
comes for a donation to the
city.
It's not your money.
It's taxpayers' money.
[Applause]
This is just for ----
>> so I make a motion.
>> Mayor: thank you.
Thank you.
>> I second.
>> Mayor: ari you have a grand
daughter that went to the school
and --
>> both grand daughters.
>> Mayor: one wasn't even -- the
parent lived in aventura.
Okay?
So anyway.
>> I'd just like to comment
something.
Obviously we've sat here before,
ari, I think you were present,
and we started with norman s.
Edelcup.
Then atm is a feeder school of
ours.
So we thought about our students
there.
And we donated money, and then
obviously commissioner joseph
brought up iprep.
We do have some students there.
I understand your dilemma or
your questioning.
But, you know, the way I look at
it is safety, and we do have
students there.
We do have sunny isles beach --
[Speaker off mic]
Not all of them.
But some of them do.
A good portion of, atm about a
third.
There's plenty of kids from
sunny isles beach there.
>> Mayor: there's plenty of kids
from sunny isles beach that go
there.
>> I understand your argument.
We had that argument here.
>> Mayor: ari we do stop the
bleed kits in sunny isles beach.
And we know that 30% of the kids
probably don't even -- are from
parents that don't even live
here.
Including one of your
grandchildren went to that
school for years, and her
parents didn't even live in the
city.
So, we give -- we give the stop
the bleed kits for the benefit
of kids where the parents don't
even -- don't even reside in our
city.
>> -- want to give money to the
school --
>> we did not.
>> Mayor: we didn't give money
to any two ladies.
You're speaking out of turn.
There was two -- ari.
It's not exactly the case.
But anyway, we recognize your
comments.
And we appreciate your input.
>> that was an error and it was
rejected.
>> Mayor: okay.
And it's not factually correct.
But in any event.
Okay we have a motion, we have a
second.
All in favor.
[Ayes]
Okay.
Item 10-f.
>> 10-f is a resolution
establishing a charter revision
commission.
Mayor, commissioners, as you all
are aware, the charter calls for
a revision to be done every ten
years.
Pursuant to section 7.4 of the
charter, the commission, the
four members of the commission
with the exception of the mayor
is entitled to four appointments
with the only requirement being
that they have to live in the
district that I all represent.
Each one of you.
and the mayor has the ability to
appoint one person that can live
at-large.
Meaning they can live anywhere
in the city.
And also have the authority to
be able to appoint a nonvoting
member that's a member of the
city commission that's serving a
second consecutive term.
So this resolution seek to
establish that so that they can
commence their proceedings as
soon as possible.
>> Mayor: we have public
speakers.
Going to announce the
appointments or want to have the
speakers first?
>> I'll mention the
appointments.
For vice mayor viscarra, it's
robert thatcher.
For commissioner joseph, henry
strong.
For commissioner lama, sylvaina.
And commissioner stuyvesant is
yvette francola.
And the mayor's appointment is
jody joseph.
And the nonvoting commissioner
is vice mayor viscarra.
>> Mayor: okay.
We have public speakers?
For 10-f george.
>> good evening, MADAM Mayor,
commissioners, vice mayor.
I would like to address one
point and that is the timing.
>> sorry.
Where do you live, please?
>> I apologize.
18911 collins avenue, ocean
three.
My name is george [Inaudible].
The only point I would like to
address is the timing of all
this.
As you know, we just had an
election.
mayor goldman lost.
For her being a transitional
figure SEPTEMBER and appointing
anyone to this commission looks
suspicious, looks shady, looks
strange.
There's no reason why mayor
goldman, with all due respect to
her, should be appointing anyone
to this commission when two
weeks from now we will have
another mayor.
So my recommendation to this
council, to this commission is
to reject this proposal for two
weeks until mayor svechin
becomes acting mayor.
And the cloud of this suspicion,
forgive the repetition, is
lifted.
Thank you.
[Applause]
>> Mayor: norman edelcup and dan
lynnhighser.
>> good evening, honorable mayor
and commissioners.
My name is normal edelcup,
former mayor of this city and
resident at 244 atlantic isle.
I'm probably one of the few
people here that was present
when the original charter was
put together and dan lenhieser
was appointed and when the mayor
got sworn in or the
commissioners got sworn in
within 24 hours from an
election.
By the time 2001 came along,
there were elections and we
noticed that there probably
needed to be a change in the
charter as to the timing
primarily because of civility
and courtesy we didn't want to
be kicking people out of office
the day after an election and we
timeline for a smooth
transition.
So in 2003 when the last -- the
first charter revision took
place, there was a provision
made in the charter which is
applying today that anyone
elected would wait 30 days
before coming in, realizing that
there could be a situation where
there would be a former mayor or
former commissioner still in
office for 30 days.
But we felt the courtesy
outweighed the negativity of the
situation and that major issues
really weren't going to be done
during let's call it a lame duck
period.
And that certainly, a new mayor
would be given the opportunity
or a new commissioner would be
given an opportunity to pick
people that would be serving on
committees during their time in
office.
So basically, I have two
recommendations.
One is change today's meeting to
include that the four
commissioners can make their
appointments today because they
will be on the new commission.
But reserve the right for the
incoming mayor to pick the fifth
person at the next JANUARY
meeting, or today just pass the
resolution that you will have a
charter committee and in JANUARY
all of you can fill in the five
people that you wish to be on
the committee.
In this way, I think justice
would be served.
The idea that we are basically
providing for civility and
common sense would prevail and
we wouldn't be sitting here with
this very awkward situation.
I'd like to now call lynn to
speak because my time is running
out.
And lynn, you can finish up.
>> let me just say, norman --
>> yes.
[Applause]
When the situation came up in
the federal government with
supreme court justices, what was
the end result?
>> give me the specifics that
you are talking about.
>> when we were told that trump
should not pick the supreme
court justice and leave way for
biden, what was the end result?
>> we are a local municipality.
>> I understand.
>> and I would hope that we
would have civility in our
community.
And I think what you are
suggesting is just running
roughshod over the situation.
But, you know, all I'm doing is
recommending that this be
delayed as it relates to the
mayor.
I'm not saying it should be
delayed to anybody else.
But if each of you are
appointing somebody, that means
you are going to be community
hitting with that one.
>> Mayor: norman, thank you.
You made your recommendation.
>> when the new mayor comes in,
she will be dealing with someone
that was appointed by the old
mayor, whereas all of you can be
dealing with the person that you
dealt with, but she won't be
able to do that.
[Inaudible]
I thought I was talking.
I didn't know you were going to
override me.
I would like the same courtesy
that I gave you when I was
mayor.
[Cheers and applause]
And I'm not attacking the fact
that her appointment would be
your [Inaudible].
That' certainly permissible
under the code but it is very
unjust to take a lame duck
situation and force upon the
future commission and the future
mayor a person that she didn't
even select and would otherwise
vd the right to select if we had
left the charter the way it was
in the beginning.
But because we wanted to be
civil with each other, we gave
everybody 30 days.
And now somebody just wants to
take advantage of that, perhaps
we will have to go and change
the charter again at this next
commission to correct what we
thought was the right thing to
do, but it did have unintended
consequences.
>> Mayor: you are the one who
made the change.
[Applause]
>> mayor goldman is right.
You did make the change.
>> Mayor: yeah, you are the one
that made the change.
[Inaudible]
>> MAY it please the commission.
I'm here only as an historian
and somebody who in 1997 when I
was 25 wrote this charter --
wrote the charter, and we did
provide, as the national civic
league recommended, that people
get installed the day after they
get elected.
The situation did arise where it
became difficult to throw people
physically out of their offices
the next day.
And so that charter
commission -- the revision
commission changed it for 30
days, at which, of course, I
drafted per their request.
But it didn't contemplate this
situation, obviously.
and that MAY be something you
want to take up with the new
revision commission.
But I'd like to remind you, the
city was formed -- and the
reason the charter was drafted
in the first place was because
this area was part of the
county.
And this -- the residents of
this city to become wanted
autonomy and wanted to be able
to be part of the decision
making.
And they wanted the government
close to themselves.
So they formed a city and we
drafted the charter with every
provision with that question in
mind.
Did it reflect the choice of the
people?
And that's part of the reason
that we had the installation and
commencement of office the day
after the election.
So it is, in fairness, that
mayor edelcup is asking to defer
the mayor's selection.
Constitute the charter revision
per the charter as I'm sure your
city attorney has told you to
do, but give consideration to
the unique circumstances in the
first instance.
And in the second instance, babe
with -- maybe with your charter
review committee address it and
potentially go back to the way
it was intended to be.
Thank you for your time.
>> if I MAY say, lynn --
>> yes, sir.
>> that I think the election in
the city here is a reflection of
what's going on in the country.
I mean the election was only 20
votes, so you can't say --
[Boos]
You can't say that it is the
majority.
>> with respect, commissioner,
I'm not addressing the politics
at all.
>> Mayor: listen.
>> I am really addressing the
structure of the document.
That's it.
>> Mayor: in my understanding,
there's a lot of frustration
because norman edelcup wanted to
be appointed to the charter
review commission.
Okay.
And so that's a little unfair
because he's the reason why we
have the law the way it is
today.
>> well, it wasn't --
>> excuse me, I have never asked
to be appointed to the charter
commission.
>> Mayor: well --
>> so please stop starting
rumors.
>> Mayor: that's what I heard.
>> the elections are over.
>> Mayor: I didn't start it.
You're right, well, not
necessarily.
But let's just --
>> I resent the fact that you
think I'm trying to get into the
charter commission.
>> Mayor: okay.
>> I don't intend to.
>> Mayor: for the record, that's
what I heard.
I didn't start the rumor, I just
heard it.
>> you could have asked me but
you decided to use it as a
broadcast right now.
>> Mayor: no, listen.
Norman --
[Applause]
Norman, you came up to speak
publicly.
So that came back to me that you
were frustrated because you
wanted to be appointed to the
charter review commission.
>> MADAM Mayor, if I MAY just
say one last thing.
One of the reasons the charter
was established was to place
principles above personalities,
so that it doesn't involve any
individual, but it really
relates to the good of the
government as a whole.
And commissioners change and
it's good.
It's part of democracy.
But this government should be
considered just as a document of
the people, not political.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
>> Mayor: thank you.
[Applause]
And again I think that -- I
think that my recommendations
and my appointments to the
charter review commission can
stand on their own merit.
So that's just -- that's what
the law is and that's what the
resolution states.
So I have no problem with that.
You'd have to fill out a public
speakers card.
I'm sorry.
[Inaudible]
If you have it, that's fine.
If it's on a separate topic --
is it on this topic or another
topic?
[Inaudible]
>> I don't see a problem with
it.
>> Mayor: we're just speaking on
this particular topic, okay.
>> it's the same topic.
>> Mayor: no, we are talking
about the resolution for
establishing the charter review
commission.
So if you want to speak to the
charter review commission,
that's fine.
>> it's going to be the same
topic.
You know, like I just want to
welcome the [Inaudible].
[Applause]
You know, I'm here like to
represent.
I have thousands and thousands
and thousands of people behind
my back.
A lot of people couldn't come
today because it's a working
day.
But a lot of people just wanted
to tell huge, huge welcome to
larisa.
Not only from miami, but from
the whole country.
And, you know, they are all
excited.
>> Mayor: please, your name.
What is your name?
I'm sorry.
Your name and your address.
>> my name is olga.
>> what is your address, please?
>> I live in the colony estates.
I don't know the address because
I just moved in here.
>> what?
>> what's my address?
I lived at ocean.
So 1701, but I just moved like a
month ago to the new building.
But I lived in the united states
for 40 years, but it's a new
address for me.
But we welcome her for a long
time.
She helped me years ago when she
wasn't the mayor.
We talked a long time when she
wasn't the mayor for years.
She has been very supportive in
a lot of topics.
We are very excited and we are
looking forward for the years to
come.
Thank you so much for
supporting.
We are looking forward to work
with all commissioners.
We are planning a lot of events.
And actually, it's a huge
schedule so be ready to work
with us.
And we are very excited.
Thank you so much.
[Applause]
>> Mayor: okay.
We have the resolution to
establish the charter review
commission.
Do we have a motion?
>> motion.
>> Mayor: motion to approve
commissioner joseph.
Do we have a second?
>> second.
>> commissioner stuyvesant.
>> Mayor: all in favor.
[Ayes]
Motion passes.
[Applause]
>> Mayor: okay.
Item number 10g.
>> 10g is a resolution accepting
the results of the general
runoff election held on tuesday
DECEMBER 6th, 2022 declaring
larisa svechin to be elected as
mayor.
Self-explanatory, mayor and
commissioners, accepting the
results.
I'd like to clarify one thing
that's on the resolution.
It is incorrectly listing the --
I'm sorry, let me just pull it
up for you really quickly.
The total number of votes cast
for each candidate.
The resolution listed at 3,320,
but it's actually 3,318.
[Inaudible]
Yes, just for the record to
clear it up.
>> Mayor: okay.
We have a public speaker for
10g.
Do you want to speak or no?
>> what was the name?
>> Mayor: capra.
>> I'm just going to read my
comment.
Dana, my first experience
knowing you created a belief
that the little man with the
mouth, your husband michael
gates, forced the evil from you.
In part, that was true, but you
proved to be far worse.
Your $20 million lawsuit of lies
exposed you and you paid the
price for your evil act in more
ways than money.
Your loss today --
>> greg, this is totally -- this
is so inappropriate.
>> it's appropriate, believe me.
>> Mayor: it's no, sir,
appropriate.
And I will ask you --
>> it took years to expose you.
>> Mayor: I'm sorry.
But you're going to --
>> you showed your true self to
them.
>> Mayor: this is not
appropriate.
This is totally not appropriate.
[Cross talking]
It's not appropriate.
>> okay.
Then you declare him out of
order.
>> Mayor: you're out of order.
You ask him to stop.
>> Mayor: stop.
>> if he doesn't stop --
>> Mayor: you will be escorted
out.
>> you can ask him out.
>> Mayor: please leave the room.
I'm sorry, please leave the
room.
Please, leave -- please, can we
have the police?
Wait.
luke, luke, we're going to have
you escorted out of the room.
We are going to have you
escorted out of the room.
Get him out of the room.
[Crowd noise]
[Crowd chanting]
[Crowd noise]
>> we can't.
>> Mayor: we have to be
appropriate.
[Crowd noise]
>> mayor, can you have a motion?
>> Mayor: for what?
[Crowd noise]
What?
>> a motion.
A motion.
Call for order.
>> Mayor: I'm sorry.
This is not --
>> he can stay.
>> Mayor: this is so not
appropriate, this type of
behavior.
It's really not appropriate.
This is not -- this is not --
>> we need a motion.
>> Mayor: this is not -- this is
not -- this is meant to harass.
It's not on topic.
[Crowd noise]
>> Mayor: I mean what is the
purpose of this?
Just to harass me?
>> yes.
[Crowd noise]
>> let's unite everybody.
Let us celebrate, okay.
[Crowd noise]
>> thank you, MS. Olga.
[Applause]
[Crowd noise]
>> we have a time at the end of
the commission meeting for open
discussion.
That would be the time for any
speeches such as what we just
had.
And I'll leave it at that.
>> let me read from the code if
I MAY.
Any person making impertinent or
slanderous remarks or becomes
boisterous while addressing the
commission shall be barred from
further appearance before the
commission by the presiding
officer unless permission to
continue or again address the
commission is granted by the
majority vote of the commission
members present.
In my opinion, that was
slanderous.
[Crowd noise]
>> no, it is true.
[Crowd noise]
>> and it further says that no
clapping, applauding, heckeling
or verbal outbursts shall be
permitted.
Persons exiting the commission
chambers shall do so quietly.
But it's up to you whether you
want to hear the rest of
whatever time he had left.
I don't know what that is.
>> Mayor: so we can take a
majority vote?
>> yes.
>> Mayor: I'll leave it to my
colleagues to make the vote.
>> I vote no.
>> jeniffer.
>> no, I agree.
I think that was inappropriate.
And I mean it's such a horrible
way -- I mean this is a vote on
an election result.
I mean you are just really
setting the wrong tone here.
I don't think it's appropriate
at all.
>> Mayor: and you are a
supporter and you don't agree.
>> okay, all right.
Can I see that card, his card?
>> Mayor: 10g.
>> so it was 10g, obviously it
was off topic, okay.
And then going back to what the
city attorney said and the name
calling I think is very
inappropriate.
So I don't see the point in it.
You know, I think it's just name
calling.
And I don't see that adds to
anything if we're looking to
move forward.
So maybe you're stuck in the
past, but I mean we need to move
forward.
Name calling, you know, is not
my cup of tea and I will not
allow that.
Okay?
No matter what the personal
issues you have with that
person, we are at a commission
meeting and we are here to
discuss city business, not
personal business.
So let's keep it at that.
Thank you.
>> and I'd like to also say,
greg, that you --
[Applause]
You have already aired all of
your rhetoric against the mayor,
the former mayor on facebook.
Everyone has seen it.
Everyone has seen it on
facebook.
I think you have put out
everything possibly that could
be put out against the mayor.
So anyone could go back and look
at it.
`we don't have to hear it
tonight.
Thank you.
>> mayor, MAY I speak?
>> Mayor: no, you're not even --
[Cheers and applause]
You're not even --
you just walk up to the mic?
You can't -- you want to fill
out a public speaker card.
this is not --
>> I'll fill it out but you as
the chair can allow me to speak
a few minutes.
>> Mayor: okay.
>> so I just want to say that I
was hoping that this would not
happen.
I definitely want the city to be
united.
I do not in any way support or
condone anyone on this dais to
be insulted in any way.
Although I am a believer in free
speech, it has a time and a
place.
And so this is certainly not how
I expected this item to go down
because as olga has indicated,
we do want to just move on
because it's not about
personalities, it's about the
office of mayor.
It's about the office
commissioner and we need to
respect that office no matter
what we think of a person
individually because it changes.
And that's the reality.
So I hope that we can just get
past this and get united and
just move on, please.
Thank you.
Thank you for letting me speak.
>> so you are a supporter of
cabra with his behavior?
>> Mayor: you're a supporter?
>> I'm asking that we move on.
I'm not condemning anyone.
I'm not supporting anyone.
>> so you're against what he
did?
No, I'm sorry.
So you are against what he did?
>> I am not in any support of
anyone being insulted.
>> specific, so you are a
supporter.
Are you okay with what he was
doing?
>> okay, time out.
I think, listen, at this
point --
>> I am not looking to debate
with anyone.
>> hold on, at this point --
[Cross talking]
>> thank you.
[Inaudible]
>> thank you, olga.
I don't think this is the time
or a place to have this
discussion.
[Inaudible]
>> she can't do anything about
this.
Dana can't do anything about
this.
It's not a problem --
>> let me just say it's very,
very difficult to sit up there.
It's very challenging and it is
especially hard when someone
comes up against whatever it is
you are voting on or you
personally and I have had that
happen to me.
It's not pleasant.
And yes, fabiola, I do not
condone in any way anyone
insulting anyone from here to
this body because I have the
utmost respect for this body.
And that is the reason that I
ran and I intend to maintain
that promise.
So that's why I'm just asking
that we just move on, please.
Thank you.
[Applause]
>> Mayor: okay.
We have no other public
speakers.
>> yes, we did.
We had one more.
>> Mayor: we have one more.
Felix.
[Crowd noise]
[Boos]
>> wow.
>> hold on.
Hold on.
>> Mayor: did we MISS The
comments and the rules?
Come on.
>> everybody, please, time-out.
Let's get our heads straight.
Please, let's get our heads
straight.
We are here to discuss city
business.
We are not here to heckle.
We're not in high school.
Okay.
So please, seriously, this is
getting out of hand.
Okay?
That's it.
Enough.
>> thank you.
My name is felix kizner, I live
at 250 174th street, honorable
mayor, honorable vice mayor,
members of the commission, as
thomas jefferson once said the
government that you deserve is
the government you elect.
And vice versa, the government
you elect is the government you
deserve.
Thank you for the people that
volunteered and voted because
that's what makes america great.
People's participation.
But it's done with respect, not
with heckling.
Not with personal attack and
pointing fingers at the city
commission.
That's not what america is
about.
That's what russia is about.
That's what venezuela is about.
But not sunny isles beach.
And I don't think we should let
anybody make a spectacle out of
our city.
We have a very nice city up
until today.
And I don't
i don't understand what
happened to it.
I have been living here since
the year 2000.
I still thank everyone who
volunteered, who were the poll
watchers and took the time.
And again, now I have a question
to the canvassing board.
There was a question about
district number 3.
And that district you had two
machines where people voted.
One machine was broken most of
the time and it had to be reset
from what I understand.
I know my relatives came to
vote.
One of them had 415 votes,
that's why there was a lot more.
One had 185 votes if that's
correct, the numbers that I
have.
The machine that didn't work
most of the day or part of the
day I guess had no problem with
transmission.
The machine that didn't work
well all the day had a problem
with transmission.
But in america today, we have
great amount of factors to make
sure the vote is proper.
I'm sorry, this is not poinciana
board of directrs, this is city
commission board of directors.
So please give me the respect
that I gave you when you spoke.
So bottom line is I know that
there's safety factors.
One of the things is the drive,
which is a machine which was
taken to the city because the
transmission didn't take place
on the machine that worked all
day, which is especially coded.
And number two, there are other
safety factors such as physical
count.
Because the election is so close
that
close, did the canvassing board
think to physically count from
the machine?
>> Mayor: can we hear him
respectfully like we just went
through, please?
>> so bottom line, was it ever
considered to do a physical
count because it's only 600
votes?
To make sure that the machine
where people put in the votes
and spit it out and there was no
double counting or anything like
that.
Thank you.
I'm done speaking, thank you.
>> Mayor: everyone, please
observe the decorum, please.
This is a little out of hand.
It's a little out of hand,
everybody.
Okay.
>> okay.
So is it considered ever
physically recounting?
[Crowd noise]
Thank you.
>> Mayor: okay.
Public speaker comments are
done.
And I think we -- do we have any
comments about this item?
Do we have any comments on this?
>> mayor, commissioners --
>> Mayor: for me, I have some
concerns about -- I have some
concerns, but I'm willing to,
you know, hear from my
colleagues.
[Crowd noise]
Go ahead, commissioner lama,
commissioner joseph, does anyone
have any comments on this item?
Or are we just going to take a
motion?
>> are you going to answer some
of the questions?
Or the canvassing board?
>> no, we don't -- we don't
answer any of those questions.
No.
>> Mayor: the canvassing board
has basically certified and this
is a min
ministerial vote
essentially.
>> let's then put it up for a
vote.
>> Mayor: okay.
>> we need a motion.
>> Mayor: are you making a
motion?
>> no.
>> okay, hold on.
Let's discuss this a little bit.
>> Mayor: sure.
>> obviously there's some
questions here, okay.
We could discuss it.
Are you going to discuss it with
me, both of you on the
canvassing board?
Tell me a little bit.
I know there was a 20-vote
difference.
I want to understand why it did
not go to a recount, okay.
Why did it not trigger a
recount?
I just want to understand.
I want to understand for the
sake of the public, okay.
Because what?
>> the percentage was.06.
>> I know it did not trigger it
but felix posed some guess and I
want to be able to air this out.
I understand it, but I just want
the public to understand this a
little bit.
>> sure, sure.
Under state law, a machine
recount is only run in the event
that the margin is more than 1/2
of 1%.
>>.5.
>> correct.
This was.6.
so there's no recount under the
machines.
And what they do is they just
run the ballots
ballots back through the
machines.
You never get to a manual
recount unless the difference
after that is.25%.
So we never got to.25%.
And that's why there's no
recount.
Now, I will tell you that I
participated in the canvassing
board meeting last friday.
And at the end of the day what
happens is that the supervisors
of elections staff do what they
call an audit, a precinct audit.
What they do is take all four
precincts here and put them on
little stickers --
>> five.
>> five precincts.
They put them in a bowl.
Somebody picks out a number and
that's the number of the
precinct.
They bring out all of the
ballots, both the vote ballots
and previously received ballots
and they do a manual recount.
-
and when they did that, the
numbers were exactly matching
what the results were.
>> yes.
And I happen to have asked the
question whether there has ever
been a change.
And they answered no.
>> right.
>> so only one precinct was
audited.
>> yeah.
According to state law, right.
>> what precinct was that?
>> it was 2.
>> the church.
>> which was the church,
correct.
>> but it was totally random.
You know, it was one out of five
and they pulled it out of a
fishbowl.
>> and is
is there any validity to
some of the question marks,
rumors that we hear about
precinct 3?
>> I don't have any knowledge of%
any of those events.
>> it's moot because they
randomly selected district 2.
>> the supervisor's office and
canvassing board have now
certified those results.
And all you're doing is
accepting them.
>> okay.
>> and if someone has, you
know --
>> because I want the public to
understand and I want people to
learn, you know.
[Crowd noise]
No, I know.
But not everybody does.
There's a lot of rumors out
there.
So I think information is key
and knowledge is key.
So I'm asking --
[Crowd noise]
Well, I didn't know you had
corporate attorneys.
I don't know what you are
talking about.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, not --
[Inaudible]
Okay okay, yeah.
I just want, you know, to
understand and get this --
[Inaudible]
How do you know?
[Laughter]
[Inaudible]
Are you sure?
No, but I just wanted to
repeat --
[Inaudible]
Well, no, no.
>> Mayor: okay.
>> no.
Fair enough.
But I think it's always good to
impart information and
knowledge.
So, you know, it is not done in
a malicious way.
It's just done in a way to
understand, for people to
understand and be informed.
Okay.
So yeah.
>> Mayor: are we done?
>> yeah, anybody have any
comments?
>> Mayor: yes, I mean obviously
there are some concerns raised
about the number of ballots and
so forth.
But this is purely an
administerial vote to ratify
what are the results of the
canvassing board.
>> but another authority has
already determined.
>> okay.
>> Mayor: correct.
>> I think in the spirit of
following the rules -- because I
think that's -- I'm sorry, but I
don't think we have ever had
bullying in this --
this is such a poor tone to this
transition, right.
We have somebody who --
>> and it's unnecessary as well
I have to say.
>> you know, the rules apply to
you guys.
They apply to us as well.
We have to take a vote.
It says you shall do it, so
we'll do it.
I'll make my motion in a moment.
But I would ask in the future,
it really doesn't help the
booing and the screaming and
from your seats -- it's not
helpful
it's not helpful.
If you want to express your
support and your excitement, do
it in an appropriate way.
Screaming from your chairs is
not an appropriate way.
So please.
In the future, you know, just
hold it or call somebody on the
phone outside.
Or go vent somewhere else, just
not from your seats.
Okay.
And with that, I would make a
motion.
>> Mayor: do we have a second?
>> second.
>> Mayor: all in favor.
[Ayes]
>> and that's how we follow the
rules.
[Applause]
>> Mayor: okay.
We're on discussion items.
>> no, mayor, we have the three
add-on items.
>> Mayor: citizens forum.
>> no, we have the three
add-ons.
>> yes.
>> 10h.
10h, the add-on.
>> Mayor: oh, 10h.
>> 10h is a resolution approving
a third amendment to the
agreement with granicus to
provide website redesign
services, data management and
webcasting services.
I'll start this off, mayor, as
it's the intermediate manager
reporting.
Granicus is the company that we
use to manage our agenda and
publishing it on the website.
>> could you just wait like 30
seconds, please?
[Inaudible]
>> thank you.
>> okay, I think we're good.
Please, thank you.
>> okay.
So granicus is the provider that
we use to manage our agendas and
publish them on the city's
website.
So in light of the fact that we
use them already for numerous
services, the meeting department
decided to also contract them
for redesigning the website.
And I'll turn that over to leah
so she can mention it.
>> honorable mayor, vice mayor
and commission, we wish to
partner with granicus to build a
brand-new user-friendly secure
A.D.A. Compliant and modern
website.
After much research and demos
with other vendors, we found
granicus to be the most suitable
for our needs and aleading
provider in the government
sector.
We will be piggybacking the ncpa
which is the national
cooperative purchasing alliance
contract and also peyton owen is
the representative from granicus
and is here tonight in case you
have any questions.
>> well then, if I could just
say one thing, congratulations
to leah.
She's no longer the interim
media manager.
As of million dollars,
monday, she'll be our
media manager.
[Applause]
>> a motion.
>> motion to approve.
>> Mayor: do I have a motion?
>> so moved.
>> Mayor: second.
>> second.
>> Mayor: all in favor.
[Ayes]
>> thank you.
>> Mayor: thank you, good night.
>> I'd like to see some mocks of
the new website eventually.
That will be cool.
I'm waiting.
>> you bet.
So excited, by the way, to be
able to come to this city and
see how beautiful it is and the
residents.
We're super excited to be able
to work with you guys on this
new project.
Part of our project experience
will be sharing a bunch of
different design faces, getting
the feedback from both the
public and the staff members on
how you want to create that
digital curb appeal.
>> all right, thank you.
>> thank you.
[Applause]
>> Mayor: item 10j.
>> 10I, mayor, authorizing the
city manager or designee to
purchase necessary janitorial
and sanitation supplies and
equipment from imperial dade for
fiscal year 2022-2023.
>> good evening, mayor, vice
mayor and commissioners.
The public works department is
seeking for the approval of a
blanket purchase order with
imperial dade for the necessary
janitorial, sanitation supplies,
equipment and related services
for this fiscal year '22-23 in
an amount not to exceed
$100,000.
>> Mayor: do we have comments?
We thank you.
>> motion.
>> Mayor: motion, so moved,
anyone.
>> second.
>> Mayor: who's got the first?
>> vice mayor viscarra.
>> I won, I won.
>> Mayor: okay.
Second?
All in favor.
[Ayes]
>> thank you.
>> Mayor: it's getting late.
Item 10j.
>> 10j is a resolution urging
members of the florida
legislature to support the 2023
florida league of cities
legislative platform.
>> yeah.
So this is, you know, nothing
new.
In fact, commissioner lama, I
don't know if you want to
co-sponsor this or not given you
are the flc rep.
I jumped on it when it came
through my email to make it an
add-on.
Basically, this is just to give
us an outline provided by the
florida league of cities in
terms of the kinds of things
that we are going to support
legislatively this includes -- a
lot of it is based around home
rule which is cities and
legislation that supports us
keeping our power.
Three of the points are like
around different aspects of
short-term rentals, workforce
housing is one of the things
which we heard in the
presentation today about the
condos.
What else?
Traditional and alternative
modes of transportation.
But basically, it's all the
preservation of municipal
authority and supporting that
type of legislation.
So I don't know, commissioner
lama, if you wanted to add to
that.
>> yeah.
Thank you very much for inviting
me to be a co-sponsor.
>> sure.
>> this is great.
Obviously, we know the
importance of, you know,
advocating, you know, with the
miami-dade county league of
cities and at the state level
with the florida league of
cities.
And there are many issues that,
you know, we keep -- we need to
keep advocating, protecting home
rule and other issues that
affect municipalities.
So yeah, this is great, great
idea.
And yeah, kudos for this.
>> okay, awesome.
>> Mayor: okay.
>> anything else?
>> Mayor: is there a motion?
>> so moved.
>> Mayor: second?
>> second.
>> Mayor: all in favor.
[Ayes]
Okay.
We're on to discussion.
>> yeah.
>> Mayor: citizens forum, okay.
>> any speakers?
[Inaudible]
>> Mayor: is somebody here from
nina nikoloff.
>> I am, I am.
>> hello.
>> hello, good evening.
It's almost night.
Yes.
And my name is nina nikoloff.
>> I'm sorry, where do you live,
please?
Your address.
>> Mayor: name and address for
the record.
>> okay.
My address is 251 74th street
unit 1208 sunny isles beach.
Yes, I arrived to this apartment
in JUNE 2027.
[Inaudible] Who is also the
PRESIDENT Of the association.
Immediately, I was notified of
the need to pay a special
assessment in the amount of
almost 30,000.
And in our balance, it was so
bad numbers about they showed
losses cost 400,000, yes, and it
is many, many understandable
number when I will need to pay,
yet in this situation.
In AUGUST, the PRESIDENT
Announced that the building
could not pass the 50-year
certification and was in
disrepair.
I bought very, very expensive
apartment.
I need to pay a special
assessment.
I need to pay many, many money
for losses for balance.
And I bought an apartment in
emergency situation --
emergency, yes.
And in violence of our bylaws,
board members do not report at
meeting after approving
13 million contribution.
The board does not show monthly
report even on the debit.
From SEPTEMBER I asked them
please report to us.
They did not report.
Only it was [Inaudible].
At 8 DECEMBER it was the meeting
and on after the meeting could
they show the website report
from AUGUST, from SEPTEMBER and
now more.
And we got so, so terrible.
They showed only our -- I am
sorry.
I am so worried, yes.
to pay so many for only one
month, our debt was for
1 million more, for 1 million
more.
And this is --
[Tone]
I am sorry.
I am sorry, thank you.
And I only work, this is the
result of working.
I am sorry.
But this is --
>> excuse me
[Inaudible]
>> he was for the person of the
sunny isles beach, how it can
be.
Everybody knew it is really --
building is understandable
for -- [Inaudible]
>> Mayor: thank you.
>> it is emergency.
Okay.
And now however, the main
problem is the threat that more
than 400 families live in the
building that is in this
disrepair.
They MAY lost their home and
they stay on the street.
The complaint filed with dpr was
accepted for consideration only
for fourth time and now it is in
a year if you
if you cannot get letter
answer from them.
However, the most understandable
fact for us is that
MR. Pissaloff was the citizen of
the city hall.
>> Mayor: thank you so much for
your comments.
>> hi, I'd just like to ask
you -- I'm sorry.
Excuse me.
I'd just like -- was the new
mayor aware that you were going
to speak tonight?
Because she should be here to
hear your complaint.
I'm surprised she left.
>> no.
Ma'am --
>> I arrived here.
Can I talk?
>> ma'am, I'll tell you one
thing.
So we, as a city, don't have
jurisdiction over some of the
items you said, like, you know,
assessments and some issues with
your association and the
association PRESIDENT.
You mentioned that you filed a
complaint against the wpr.
Do you know spencer hennings?
He's our rep so he's the
ombudsman
[Inaudible]
>> Mayor: we are aware.
There is a personal dispute
because the winston terrace 100
leveraged a large special
assessment for structural and
other repairs so there's a group
of owners in the winston 100 who
are very upset about a special
assessment and wants to use this
forum as an opportunity to
discuss it including the
PRESIDENT.
>> okay, unfortunately, we don't
have jurisdiction on the
assessments they can levy.
>> Mayor: we are aware of the
complaint and we are aware of
the special assessment and we
are aware of the circumstances.
So I know there are a couple of
other people that would like to
speak, including michael kueko
which seems to be the leader of
this effort.
So perhaps he wants to use his
three minutes to discusses
special assessment as well.
But we are well aware of this.
Again, I would like to echo
commissioner lama's sentiment
which is every building in
winston towers right now and
every building throughout the
city is not only contemplating a
multi-million dollar special
assessment, but is in the middle
of it or will have one due to
not only recertification
requirements, but also four-year
50 recertification and the new
milestone inspection
requirements that are mandated
by 4d, the state law.
So we are -- even though I know
it's concerning for the winston
towers 100, please bear in mind
that there are buildings
throughout this city that
people -- in fact, there's
another building in this city
where each unit owner is now
paying 70,000 or $80,000 a unit,
just per unit for one special
assessment.
So while it MAY not be
comforting to you, you're not
alone because a lot of buildings
are facing this very issue of a
special assessment.
>> I did not talk about our
assessment.
I only talked about we are upset
about that people who make so
bad situation for more than for
1,000 people.
And they were [Inaudible]
>> Mayor: I understand.
Okay.
>> and, of course, of course,
this is the city.
They destroyed our building.
And he got this very, very --
how this can be?
>> Mayor: I appreciate your
comments.
But the idea that he destroyed
the building I think is -- I'm
not sure that -- I'm not sure
that that's something that we
can really opine on or really,
you know, have a discussion
about.
But I thank you for your
comments.
Michael kuekovich, would you
like to speak?
You have three minutes.
>> hello, michael.
>> hi, guys.
Thank you very much for letting
me talking to you.
Good evening.
My name is michael kuekovich in
250 74th street, sunny isles
beach.
I am resident of this building
from 2012.
And since now the situation in
this building has gotten worsen
and worsen.
For the last three years, the
association collected four
special assessment $14 million.
You know this, okay.
They start asking for 12 years
that he should provide financial
transparency of all the work in
the building.
No answer.
We sent a letter to the office
in DECEMBER 2021 with 51 other
owners.
This same creation after we sent
this letter to dppr.
All these people, taxpayers for
sunny isles beach.
MR. Pissolov sued me and two
more people for defamation for
giving an answer and
explanation.
I have been contacted to
MR. Joseph and dana goldman.
I am suffering emotional and
financial for 11 months.
The association wasting money
for our building [Inaudible] For
me and the neighbors.
And they make paying emotional
distress in addition to other
people who live in the winston
towers.
Our building is not --
[Inaudible].
And I said you have to know
everybody, why we coming to you
asking for help.
I am asking larisa svechin, new
elected mayor to help us stop
this nuance.
>> where is she?
Is she here?
>> okay.
I live give to her.
>> maybe she'll watch it on
television.
>> maybe.
>> Mayor: and how would you
expect her to help stop the
nonsense?
>> I don't know.
You probably know.
>> Mayor: you asked.
>> maybe --
>> Mayor: you have to help her
stop the nonsense.
What nonsense are you referring
to?
The lawsuit?
>> yes.
>> Mayor: how can she stop the
lawsuit?
>> well, you have to stop the
lawsuit to people, to neighbors
when you can put [Inaudible]
>> Mayor: you are asking her to
stop a lawsuit between you and
the association?
>> yes, because the association
is not only me.
It's a lot of people.
[Inaudible]
>> Mayor: wait a second.
Do you really think she can stop
the nonsense, that she'll stop
the lawsuit between you and the
association?
>> no, I not think this.
>> Mayor: you said I'm asking
her to stop the nonsense.
>> nonsense, of course.
we have to work with these
people.
Maybe we have to involve an
election, election is not
correct.
We have a lot of issues with the
election if we cannot change
this board.
>> michael.
>> yes.
>> you stated that I -- yes.
>> did not look to assist you.
Is that true?
Or did I try to help you to
mediate your situation?
>> I cannot tell you came to the
association.
You tried but you couldn't.
>> right.
>> she also tried but couldn't.
>> Mayor: how is larisa going to
do what the commissioner and
mayor couldn't do?
>> I don't know why you --
>> Mayor: you want her to stop
the nonsense.
>> it's the association.
It's you, jerry, norman and me.
>> correct.
>> and you lie in front of
[Inaudible] And you not stomp at
him.
>> Mayor: but the point is --
>> he never use a credit card.
>> Mayor: michael --
>> after I use it.
>> Mayor: a public official
cannot stop the nonsense.
This is a dispute between you
and the association.
So while it's great to use
the --
>> winston towers is a private
building.
>> Mayor: this is not something
that a public official can just
put some fairy dust over.
>> we can only intercede out of
courtesy.
>> Mayor: so I mean you're
welcome to ask anybody to stop
the nonsense, but in some ways
you have to -- this is a private
matter.
>> yeah, I know.
I understand this.
But I come in here wondering
what the reason is you have to
pay attention to this building.
The building is a lot of young
people
you have to explain to people in
the building what you're doing.
You have to be peaceful.
We come in here.
Make peace.
New commissioner, new mayor.
Everybody.
>> michael, you --
>> you go to building, when you
speak -- when you come into
building.
>> you said there have been four
assessments.
Have there been repairs to the
building at all?
>> no.
>> zero repairs?
>> no.
>> just demolition for six
months.
>> there have been zero repairs
with four assessments?
Is that true?
>> zero repairs.
[Inaudible]
>> okay.
So these assessments are over
how many years the four
assessments.
These four assessments are over
how many years?
>> three years.
So in three years there hasn't
been any repairs done?
>> no.
>> can you speak to the
microphone, so we're not
speaking from the seats, please.
[Inaudible]
.
Name and address.
>> my name is ina and I live in
towers 100, apartment 1202.
I'm living there for more than
three years, for three years,
they collect four asisments,
they always collect for the same
problems, swimming pool,
elevator and roof.
Every time they're collecting
the assessments, it means the
job was not done, right?
Why?
>> how old is your building?
>> 50 years.
>> have the elevators ever been
replaced?
These are the original
elevators?
[Inaudible]
>> then the county should look
at the elevators --
>> well, several elevators are
out of service already.
>> my suggestion would be to
contact the district attorney's
office, they will be looking
into the hoa's and doing an
investigation.
If they're collecting the money
and not doing what they need to
be doing, it will be good to
contact the district attorney's
office, I'm going to give you my
information so I can check --
>> and you have my card here as
well.
>> one second, please.
If I can put you in contact with
them, we're going to try.
>> okay.
>> but I think --
>> I --
>> I never heard about this
issue before.
>> to your point.
They have filed multiple -- you
have filed multiple claims with
the ombudsman, the attorney
general, you have made numerous
filings, correct?
You have made filings?
>> yes, yes.
We have --
>> I'll help you --
>> when it comes to the office,
they're not giving any
documentation, any --
>> by law.
>> you know by law, they're
required to provide you with
official records.
>> exactly.
>> within 10 day as.
>> precisely, yeah.
>> mayor: I'm not sure again.
I haven't evaluated, in my
humble opinion, under state law,
they're required to furniture
the documents, if I had to
guess, you have received some
documentation.
>> they're supposed to have a
website with all the
information.
>> that's true.
>> mayor: they're required to
have a website.
>> no statement of credit card,
no statement of --
>> there's not an official
record.
They have to give it to you by
law.
>> no, no, no.
>> they're not giving it to us.
>> contracts, financial reports
should be on that website by
law.
>> by law.
>> the security --
>> just so you know, the state
regulates condos, the dvpr.
>> the dvpr has original
jurisdiction over official
records request.
If you're requesting a specific
record and you file it, and give
a certified letter, you give
two, you should be able to get
those records.
So again, I don't know the
particulars, but I know you have
an absolute right for access to
records, right?
But the complaint against you
for defamation has nothing to do
with the official records,
correct?
>> that's different.
[Inaudible]
>> mayor: but again, that's
something completely separate?
Whatever it is, whatever it
is --
[Inaudible]
>> mayor: but whatever it is,
it's a separate matter, your
access, your access as a unit
owner to records is an absolute
right.
It's completely within your
right to get those records, if
you don't within 10 days of
request, you have recourse.
And you're aware of that, and
I'm sure you filed with the dvpr
for those records, correct?
>> no, no, you know what -- they
present one woman, they don't
let him come into office.
Normally they tell people, you
let him -- don't let him --
>> mayor: because I what?
>> you tell him, don't let him
come into the office?
>> mayor: I said don't let you
come into the office?
>> to people.
This coming to me.
>> mayor --
>> mayor: I'm sorry.
>> mayor, I'm sorry, this is a
civil matter, this is a civil
matter that doesn't -- we don't
have any jurisdiction.
We need to move on to the next
person.
>> why you don't let him come
into the office.
>> I -- listen.
>> let me enjoy -- I'm all
the -- the one who doesn't know
what your address is, you
already know.
List ing, guys, I think that in
the -- I work with you, I'm
you're consultant, so she works
in home care agency, and they
consult you because I have huge
experience.
I work with a lot of people that
live in this building.
A lot of these people don't know
what they're doing, they don't
understand what they're doing.
People take advantage of them,
they don't speak very good
english.
I think they were taken
advantage of for years, she
said, he said, it should end.
You guys should hire an
attorney.
Donna said, he said, she said.
It should stop.
You need to get the legal --
what you're saying right now,
I'm very sorry, that's nonsense,
that's just a kindergarten
level, I can't listen to that.
What does donna have to do with
what's --
>> ma'am, ma'am, can you all
have the discussion outside?
>> yes.
>> thank you, we need to move
on.
It's a civil matter.
>> mayor: it seems to me you
want to pull the city into this
drama, and we're not really
involved.
>> we have no jurisdiction.
There is the state --
>> michael, what this lady is
saying to you is what I've been
saying to you.
>> they have nothing to do with
it, a lot of seniors, you know,
it was when they have -- they
have problems, they do
complaining, what was happening
in the 100 building, some
something I would never imagine
would happen in the united
states of america.
>> it happens all along 174th, I
live in the 300 and we've gone
through the same issues.
>> concerns about records, but
there's --
>> michael, call me tomorrow.
>> no, we're not -- we have no
jurisdictions over hoa's or
condos, that's the state.
And you need to get an attorney.
>> that's correct, nothing.
>> I'd like to add something,
though.
I'd like to add something, I'm
in conversations with the
county, okay?
And the county does have a
special program that they're
starting where they'll give you
a loan so people can pay for
their special assessments, okay?
I'm gathering the information,
so once I gather all the
information, I'll make sure our
media department, that we post
it, and we spread the
information, okay?
>> but for me it seems like,
that's not about special
assessment.
>> no, well, the other lady
talked about special
assessments.
>> mayor: but it is about a
special assessment, because
this --
>> yeah.
>> they said --
>> no, but --
>> this all started because
there was a multimillion dollar
special assessment, that's when
the whole thing devolved in that
building.
It completely relates.
If there weren't this 14 million
or $12 million special
assessment, no one would be
upset in that building, it all
stems from that special
assessment.
Their questions are, where is
the money going, where is the
money being spent, nothing is
getting done.
We don't have access, we don't
have transparency.
It's all about the special
assessment.
Again, every building is going
through this in the city or is
going to be going through this.
And now it's gotten personal.
>> the problem is, when you have
years with no assessments, and
then you have to repair the
building, that's where the
problem --
>> can we move on, please.
>> mayor: we've given a lot of
time and had a lot of
discussion, and we want to be
empathetic here, but this is
something that is a private
matter amongst you and your
board of directors.
And I think you know that the
city officials and the city
government --
[Inaudible]
>> mayor: we can't solve that
problem, we can only serve as a
resource if you have something
that, of course, you take it to
this agency or that agency.
This is not -- we can't fix a
special assessment issue, or any
individual lawsuits that are
happen
happening.
>> thank you, I just want to
say -- I want to thank you,
donna -- we enjoyed the last
four years, everything was
great.
Thank you, everybody.
>> appreciate it, thank you very
much.
>> and I don't know who the guy
was, was here.
Whoever he was, apologize for
whoever he was.
Thank you.
>> thank you.
>> mayor: thank you.
Now we have olga.
>> she just left.
>> and derek conswega is the
last one.
>> no?
Okay.
Thank you.
>> we have george -- we have
pablo.
Pablo, you're speaking?
>> no, sorry about that.
>> mayor: then I have george
guardmesser.
>> welcome back, george.
>> thank you, it's good to be
back, members of the commission,
mayor goldman.
I'd like to speak to the heart,
on an issue that's been
bothering me a couple months,
things have gotten steal on this
commission.
>> steal?
>> members of the commission
have an ethical obligation to be
independent.
What we saw in this election is
that essentially you're all
marionettes of mayor goldman.
You campaign for her actively, I
got my -- I got spammed with
jennifer advice caro
vis kar
iffer viscarra campaigning
for mayor goldman.
Right next to the elections
locations.
>> does that make us puppets,
though?
>> please, let him punish.
>> jerry, for the record, I've
told you, a lot of people feel
negatively about you, I'm not
one of them.
I'm neutral about you.
My point is, I have a solution.
The solution is a recall.
What we need is a recall for all
the commissioners.
I volunteered to work with the
city attorney.
We only need 1200 signatures, I
can collect 100 at starbucks in
the mourning in two days, I
promise you.
I think we need a recall, we
need some fresh blood, new ideas
here, too many people it feels
like, have groaning into their
chairs, so to speak.
And the solution is a recall.
There's an alternative, if every
member of the commission
resigns, we can skip the recall
and just have an election.
So out of the goodness of my
heart, I'm offering this idea to
everyone here, and I hope you
will consider it, and vote on
it, thank you.
>> yeah, thank you, george.
Thank you.
>> bravo.
>> you know, george, I never met
you before, so I don't
understand how you could tell me
basically to resign if you don't
know me.
We haven't talked -- I invite
you to come and talk to me, we
have a meeting, so you could
have a better opinion of what --
of the work we've done here, and
speaking from the heart, to be
honest with you, I think that
this year, that we've been here
sitting at the dais with mayor
goldman we've kind of unlocked
that stale feeling you have,
that's why we've been able to
hire 10 new police officers,
dispatchers, we've been talking
about changing the traffic
signals.
As you can see, there have been
changes, positive changes.
>> I don't understand --
>> hold on, jerry, I'm speaking.
We've had committees where we
get --
>> you're out of time.
>> I'm a commissioner I get ten
minutes.
>> no.
>> we have committees where
we're doing more outreach to the
residents.
She was able -- our vice mayor
was able to form, which
before -- for some reason, it
was very stale and it could not
happen, she was able to do the
residents academy, which whoever
attended that can tell you
they're grateful.
I've been able to form the
senior roundtable.
There's been a lot of changes
that transpired in the last less
than a year to be honest with
you.
I don't know where you get that
word stale from, I think that's
what happened before, and that's
why -- I invite you to with me
and maybe you can see the other
side of the story, okay?
There's always three sides,
right?
>> perhaps.
>> any how, I offer you to sit
with me and we can talk, so you
can have a better idea, a more
complete idea of what has
transpired and what's going on.
To be honest with you, this is
the first time I've seen you
here at the commission meeting.
I haven't seen you before.
>> this is true, this is the
first time I've come here.
>> maybe if you come more often
you would understand better, and
we could meet.
Have you met with any of the
commissioners before?
>> fabiola filmed me at the
precinct voting.
>> you haven't had a one on one
conversation talking about
subjects and topics?
>> no.
>> sign up for the academy.
>> it's a pleasure.
>> let's talk in the heart, and
be truthful to ourselves, so
let's meet, okay?
>> mayor: you have to come here,
when you haven't met any of us.
To say we should have a recall.
>> I pay your salaries among
many others, why should I not
have an opinion about the
staleness of the --
>> no, I disagree with you.
>> if I could have one second.
>> yeah.
>> it occurs to me that many of
the people who ran for office
and got elected did so under
false pretenses.
I'm a republican, many of the
people pretend to be republicans
or give an impression that
somehow they share my values
when, in fact, it is not the
case.
Mayor goldman, with all due
respect, I see you as a liberal
democrat probably to the left of
joe biden, probably somewhere
around --
>> mayor: that's because number
one you don't know me, you've
never met me, and this is not a
partisan board or a partisan
race.
There should be absolutely no
discussion of party affiliation,
it has no relevance to city
matters and government platters.
>> I disagree, but fine.
>> one second, one second.
>> it's not -- it's
absolutely -- it's just -- this
is totally off topic.
>> as a clarification about the
elections.
This FEBRUARY, jerry joseph and
I myself, this year, we got
elected by the people.
And in NOVEMBER, alex lama and
jeniffer viscarra got elected by
the people.
We have four commissioners that
got elected by the people this
year.
So talking about fresh blood, I
think you need to be a little
more informed.
And about the video, the day of
the elections, I only started
recording when you were being
very aggressive and
disrespectful, using very bad
behavior.
>> actually, I didn't know who
you were at the time.
>> language I'm not going to
repeat here, because I'm a lady.
>> fabiola has a video of me, I
don't know if she watches it or
pnot, but --
>> we need to make a motion to
adjourn.
>> mayor: thank you.
Before we make a motion to
adjourn.
Thank you for your time.
I wanted to make a couple
comments that alex lama started.
Mayor goldman, thank you for --
truly what I believe is a
transformative year for this
commission.
We haven't always agreed, and
yet we -- you know, we were able
to come together around your
policies and I'm very proud of
the changes that we've made.
>> yes.
>> mayor: and I think the city
is better off, I think personnel
is better off, our police
department is certainly better
off, we have a new chief, a new
mayor.
We have -- I mean, we're just
better than we've been since I
got here four years ago, and
probably since before that.
But I can't speak for that.
>> and not only that, but I
hear --
>> mayor: give me one second,
please, jerry.
I just waneded to tell you that,
it's been an amazing year.
And it's something you should be
very proud of.
Regardless of what the noise
says.
I have no intention of
resigning, by the way, for those
of you wondering.
>> yes.
>> mayor: and ed, I know, you
are -- this is your last
meeting, your ready for
retirement, congratulations on
your retirement.
And thank you so much for
working with us.
>> thank you, ed.
>> mayor: and I'll make a
motion, unless someone else has
something to say.
>> I would like to say also, the
mayor and myself, we started off
the year a little rough around
the edges, but I'm happy for how
she progressed with her plans
for the city, with the underpark
and all, and I hope to move that
forward.
And I thank you.
>> mayor: thank you.
Thank you, it's been an honor.
>> yes, I want to thank you too,
mayor goldman.
Everyone obviously, I'm a
republican and you're a democrat
but -- been republican since
1989, I haven't switched ever,
ever, ever.
Any how, it's been great, some
of the changes we've been able
to make.
Thank you, stan for the reports.
We never got reports,
information was something of a
taboo here before, so that was a
big change.
The transparency, and, you know,
the flow of information is key.
I think that the more informed
you are, the better decisions
you can make.
And you can make the right
decisions and moving forward
with some of the things we were
able to accomplish, so it's
great.
A lot of things.
And hopefully we'll be able to
move forward and continue some
of the ideas that you had and
that we've discussed before.
Thank you very much.
We owe you a lot.
>> I want to say thank you,
thank you for trusting in me and
appointing me last year.
It's been an honor, a pleasure,
a learning experience that isn't
going to end.
And I look forward for
continuous guidance about the
future.
And I think we are going to MISS
You.
Having said that, I want to give
you --
>> yes, and --
>> mayor: motion to adjourn.
>> I'd like to say I'm proud to
be a part of this commission,
and everyone who composes it.
Yes.
>> we're already adjourned.