1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,740 Three minutes, and time limits will be strictly enforced. Guidelines are posted on the city's website and on the meeting agenda. Please join me in a salute to the flag. 2 00:00:13,450 --> 00:00:25,610 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the public for which it stands, one nation, under God, invisible, but liberty and genesis for all. 3 00:00:27,890 --> 00:00:30,990 Thank you. Recording officer, maybe please have the roll call. 4 00:00:34,850 --> 00:00:36,730 Chair Wong. Here. 5 00:00:36,730 --> 00:00:42,710 Vice Chair Jutta Konda, Board Member Cheng, Board Member Hu, 6 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,980 so we have three present with two absent. 7 00:00:49,820 --> 00:00:55,160 For the recreation, we have Chair Kesting, we have Commissioner Brahmon, 8 00:00:56,380 --> 00:00:59,320 Commissioner Gatani, we have three present with two absent. 9 00:01:01,530 --> 00:01:06,710 Thank you. So we'll move on to presentations. Our first presentation is 24-0028, 10 00:01:06,710 --> 00:01:11,170 May and Library Project update phase two presentation. 11 00:01:11,950 --> 00:01:15,350 There is. Thank you guys for meeting with us tonight. 12 00:01:15,930 --> 00:01:18,790 Just quick introductions. My name is Alison Boyer. 13 00:01:18,990 --> 00:01:22,310 I am the assistant city engineer for the public works department. 14 00:01:22,630 --> 00:01:24,870 Also here from the city, we have Michelle, 15 00:01:25,470 --> 00:01:28,690 who's our director of library and recreational services, 16 00:01:28,770 --> 00:01:34,070 as well as demon who is our superintendent of recreation. 17 00:01:35,130 --> 00:01:40,590 get it one time. And then also we have our consultants here who are helping us with this library project 18 00:01:40,590 --> 00:01:46,970 and we have David Schnee and Andrea Gifford in the back and they'll help with the presentation. 19 00:01:48,030 --> 00:01:52,590 So quick project update for you. Sorry. 20 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:57,850 Sorry. I should have planned a little better. 21 00:01:58,810 --> 00:02:02,870 Sorry, quick introductions, and then project update. 22 00:02:03,470 --> 00:02:06,950 We are currently in our round two of community engagement. 23 00:02:06,950 --> 00:02:09,970 We previously came to you guys in our round one. 24 00:02:10,170 --> 00:02:14,490 We're doing our brief need study and identifying what was the wants from the community. 25 00:02:14,810 --> 00:02:19,310 We're in our round two where that will go here through the end of this month. 26 00:02:19,570 --> 00:02:24,150 We're here on three, four, which you see in the red box down there. 27 00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:28,310 We're in the process of doing our conceptual design and identifying our options. 28 00:02:28,310 --> 00:02:34,230 We will go to Council for a study session in April, and then we'll start our round three. 29 00:02:34,490 --> 00:02:39,430 We'll kind of hone in on what exactly the public is looking for in our options. 30 00:02:40,350 --> 00:02:54,130 We'll come back to another joint commission board meeting on March 15th, and then we'll do 31 00:02:54,130 --> 00:03:00,290 alternative is as well as decide if they're going to direct staff to proceed with pulling ballot 32 00:03:00,290 --> 00:03:04,670 language. I'm sorry, we will have the polling results and they'll give us direction for ballot 33 00:03:04,670 --> 00:03:12,490 language. And then on June, in June, if they will make the determination if they want to proceed 34 00:03:12,490 --> 00:03:13,610 with putting it on the ballot. 35 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:19,820 So with that, I'm going to pass it off to Andrea. Sorry. 36 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:30,740 There we go. 37 00:03:30,740 --> 00:03:38,480 All right. Good evening. I'm pleased to present to you this evening the round one community 38 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:44,840 round one results. As you recall, we had gone out to the community and reached a significant 39 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,860 number of community members and asked them to prioritize a number of programs and services 40 00:03:49,860 --> 00:03:57,340 that would be possible as part of the renovation or new library. And tonight we'll share those 41 00:03:57,340 --> 00:04:02,860 results with you. The top five are what we call our high priorities heard from the community or 42 00:04:02,860 --> 00:04:08,380 listed up on the screen here. Children's exploration and discovery, a fair amount of good support 43 00:04:08,380 --> 00:04:14,520 for arts and crafts programs, as well as makerspace programs, making sure that we have adequate space 44 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:21,140 for events and presentation, as well as continuing the after-hour book pickup and drop-off. 45 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:28,140 As we move to the next slide, you can see the communities top six through 10, what we call 46 00:04:28,140 --> 00:04:30,620 our medium priority programs and services. 47 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:37,400 These include recreation programs and services, a flexible community room, making sure that 48 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:43,220 the library highlights multicultural programs as well as the world language collections, providing 49 00:04:43,220 --> 00:04:50,280 space for local art within the community to display, as well as complementing the interior 50 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:53,120 library with some lovely outdoor reading spaces. 51 00:04:55,380 --> 00:05:00,740 The next slide here rounds out the other programs and services that were part of the survey. 52 00:05:01,700 --> 00:05:05,080 These were still important to the community but didn't quite make the top 10. 53 00:05:05,740 --> 00:05:09,540 We will make sure that these programs and services still can be accomplished while they 54 00:05:09,540 --> 00:05:11,720 may not have dedicated space to them. 55 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,740 As you know, we'll be designing the library for flexibility and these types of programs and 56 00:05:16,740 --> 00:05:21,800 services would still be able to be accomplished in the flexible meeting rooms, program spaces 57 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:27,260 and event spaces, and as well as the library being able to create pop-up space for these types 58 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:32,460 of programs and services. So while they're still important to the community, we want to make sure 59 00:05:32,460 --> 00:05:36,820 that the library is flexible enough to accommodate these types of programs in the future. 60 00:05:39,570 --> 00:05:44,670 And so as we gathered all of the priorities for the programs and services of the community, 61 00:05:44,670 --> 00:05:49,310 we were working with library staff to help create a library program. 62 00:05:49,970 --> 00:05:54,210 Here you can see the six different categories of public spaces that we're talking about. 63 00:05:54,770 --> 00:06:04,550 Browsing, which is basic, which entails new and popular materials as well as the world language collection as and cultural connection kind of place. 64 00:06:04,550 --> 00:06:20,110 highlighting children's and tween program space, teen, dedicated teen space, continuing the adult programs and services materials there, creating space for meetings, studying and flexible meeting space. 65 00:06:20,450 --> 00:06:25,070 And then a new category that the library currently has is a make or create space. 66 00:06:25,070 --> 00:06:30,870 And so the bars on the right indicate, in the first bar you can see what the proportion 67 00:06:30,870 --> 00:06:36,310 of space dedicated to each of those different types of programs and services are in today's 68 00:06:36,310 --> 00:06:42,090 60,000 square foot library, the predominant space being dedicated to adult programs and services. 69 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:49,250 Then the bars on the right are the three different options that we've been tasked to work through. 70 00:06:49,670 --> 00:06:54,830 The first option being renovation and addition, 120,000 square feet, and how space would be 71 00:06:54,830 --> 00:07:00,190 distributed based on those community priorities throughout the new program for the library. 72 00:07:00,990 --> 00:07:05,470 The library option two is an all-new library, very similar type of program. 73 00:07:06,010 --> 00:07:12,070 The small difference there is that the existing library has some unique existing conditions, 74 00:07:12,530 --> 00:07:17,170 the additional circulation and hallways that we'd have to factor in as, but in a new library, 75 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:21,830 we'd be able to design the library a bit more efficiently within that program. 76 00:07:21,830 --> 00:07:28,490 And then the third option is the smaller reduced program that really accommodates the medium and 77 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:33,790 high priorities, again, making sure we allow space for those other needs, but at a slightly reduced 78 00:07:33,790 --> 00:07:40,430 square footage. And you can see the distribution of spaces as we are from today and into the future, 79 00:07:41,010 --> 00:07:46,190 really focusing on enhancing space dedicated to childrens and tweens. That was one of the number 80 00:07:46,190 --> 00:07:51,450 high priorities that we heard from the community, increasing our meeting room space for events 81 00:07:51,450 --> 00:07:56,770 and performances, study space, and then you can see that new category we created for 82 00:07:56,770 --> 00:08:01,190 a maker and create spaces to really accommodate those art programs and maker space programs. 83 00:08:05,690 --> 00:08:11,070 In addition to increasing the program space, the library's graph footage, we will also make sure 84 00:08:11,070 --> 00:08:16,310 that the collection has space to grow. As the population grows, we want to make sure that the collection 85 00:08:16,310 --> 00:08:22,070 proportionally grows with the population. And so here you can see the slight difference between 86 00:08:22,070 --> 00:08:28,010 Option 1 and Option 2, as I mentioned, is just a little bit less efficiency in the renovation 87 00:08:28,010 --> 00:08:33,230 addition option as opposed to an all-new library, so there's a little bit of a reduction in shelving 88 00:08:33,830 --> 00:08:40,570 number of items there, and as we get to the smaller footprint of the option 3, the 96,000 all-new 89 00:08:40,570 --> 00:08:47,690 library, again, some limitations on the way that collection can grow with the highest percentage of 90 00:08:47,690 --> 00:08:51,830 growth being the hundred and twenty thousand square foot all new and 91 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:55,210 so with that I'm going 92 00:08:55,210 --> 00:08:58,570 to hand it over to Michelle to talk about our community engagement round two. 93 00:09:09,490 --> 00:09:13,770 Okay, so as you know the most important thing that's really we've been focusing on is 94 00:09:13,770 --> 00:09:19,050 that public outreach to make sure that we really hear what the community wants and everything 95 00:09:19,050 --> 00:09:24,170 that Andrea mentioned you know has been straight from the surveys that we've received from 96 00:09:24,170 --> 00:09:30,550 the community whether it was online in person at the library at a kiosk you name it. So we've 97 00:09:30,550 --> 00:09:36,710 continued that here into phase two of community outreach and once again we've done some pop-up 98 00:09:37,530 --> 00:09:44,810 events at kiosks events like the farmers market as an example. We've also have 99 00:09:46,390 --> 00:09:52,590 these big boards at the library and the community center for people to you know very easily just 100 00:09:52,590 --> 00:09:58,030 put dots on what they think is their favorite. And then we have the kiosks as well at both 101 00:09:58,030 --> 00:10:04,210 library and the community center. It's been really important to us to get as much feedback as we 102 00:10:04,210 --> 00:10:10,090 can, as you can see, we've had our survey online now for about three weeks. It is also available 103 00:10:10,090 --> 00:10:14,730 in multiple languages, so we're really trying to reach the community as much as we can. 104 00:10:20,580 --> 00:10:25,880 These are just a few, or if this is not an exhaustive list, but these are some of the 105 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,960 community organizations or groups that we have engaged with when asking for feedback in 106 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,400 this phase two. And we'll get into what all that phase two looks like in a moment. But 107 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,900 these are some of the organizations we've been really fortunate to get a good turnout 108 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:48,800 from from the community on responding to the survey. The first round of surveys we had about 109 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:55,160 3,000 respondents right now and I'll show you my next slide, the numbers that we have. 110 00:10:55,780 --> 00:11:02,120 In addition to actual events, we also don't forget if have this available in the library 111 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:08,620 where you know, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people are coming in every day and 112 00:11:08,620 --> 00:11:13,320 getting a chance to look at it and some people, you know, you'll talk to as you're moving through 113 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,540 the library and say if you fill this out and they're like, oh yeah, I filled it out yesterday 114 00:11:16,540 --> 00:11:21,060 or I filled it out last week, which also gives you some idea on how frequently they're in the library as well. 115 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:26,800 So, you know, generally most library patrons are coming in. If they're younger, 116 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,840 they're probably coming in with their parents at least once a week or every two weeks for programs. 117 00:11:31,340 --> 00:11:34,320 But most people come in every three weeks because that's when their books are due. 118 00:11:35,300 --> 00:11:39,140 So you can kind of give them an opportunity for us to catch 119 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,980 residents as they're coming in, especially by keeping this open for several weeks. 120 00:11:43,980 --> 00:11:45,580 next slide please. 121 00:11:50,210 --> 00:12:00,690 So one of the other points of outreach that we've done that's been successful is our email blast, the library has a really robust group of people that subscribe to our newsletter. 122 00:12:01,450 --> 00:12:08,350 It's well over 40,000 people, so we have hit as many of our newsletters within the city as we can. 123 00:12:08,850 --> 00:12:12,950 We're getting great click at click rates for people clicking on it. 124 00:12:12,950 --> 00:12:26,390 and we've also obviously engaged the schools as much as we can to to make sure that they're aware of the survey and get that feedbacks and so much of the feedback we've been getting has been children's and youth focused. 125 00:12:27,170 --> 00:12:35,630 That's why you saw when Andrea presented just the huge increase in space for those sections. Obviously this direct result of these surveys. 126 00:12:37,010 --> 00:12:41,730 And then, you know, I won't list every single thing on there, you can see it, but we really 127 00:12:41,730 --> 00:12:47,610 have tried to utilize as many city channels as we can, as well to push the surveys out. 128 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:56,640 And just to give you a little bit on the diversity of geographic diversity of who's been filling 129 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:05,140 out these surveys, here's a little breakdown by the zip code, and you can see the brown 130 00:13:05,140 --> 00:13:13,060 online over there is gives you an idea of the population in those areas that make up 131 00:13:13,060 --> 00:13:19,920 the city of Sunnyvale. The green line shows you the percentage of those populations that 132 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:35,020 have filled out the survey. So when you think of 94087 and that green line there, 40% of 133 00:13:35,020 --> 00:13:37,720 of the survey respondents came from that zip code. 134 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,040 So that's how you can interpret it. 135 00:13:40,740 --> 00:13:45,500 That 37% on the brown line there for 94087 136 00:13:46,030 --> 00:13:48,640 is about the percentage of residents in the community 137 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,880 that come from that zip code. 138 00:13:50,420 --> 00:13:53,920 The green one is the percentage that filled 139 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:54,840 and filled out the survey. 140 00:13:57,850 --> 00:13:59,150 I'm turning it back. 141 00:14:00,330 --> 00:14:04,490 Great, so, great to be back for both of the commissions here. 142 00:14:06,530 --> 00:14:12,430 Okay, there we go. Great to be back before you this evening, and to now present what's 143 00:14:12,430 --> 00:14:17,230 the main, begin the presentation on the subject, which is the main part of round two, which 144 00:14:17,230 --> 00:14:19,050 is the building site and parking options. 145 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,420 So the survey that we have going out here, a 146 00:14:25,420 --> 00:14:30,360 great library needs to reflect and celebrate the values of the community. And before we begin 147 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,660 the architecture we want to hear from the community, what are those values we want to get 148 00:14:34,660 --> 00:14:37,980 to sense about for them the architecture and for the site. So it's really appropriate 149 00:14:37,980 --> 00:14:42,780 that we have both the library and the parks and rec commissions out here today. So this 150 00:14:42,780 --> 00:14:49,320 is showing what we call design values here where we put images and key expressions and 151 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:54,120 the results that we get in the distribution of that. The really wonderful results from 152 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:59,960 about two-thirds in the library, the farmer's market, where Chair Kess- 153 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:28,700 I saw that you came, and we had wonderful feedback there, and the online survey is there as well. And for any of you who have not yet done the survey, who might be listening in to this live or recorded, if you go to the library's homepage at the banner, is a direct link to that too. So that was flashed earlier, and we appreciate that. And so the results thus far are really wonderful. 154 00:15:28,700 --> 00:15:32,760 and our cities from clear directions and opportunities for us. 155 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:37,680 So the top five results to date are the indoor outdoor connections. 156 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:45,020 We can't beat being in this part of a beautiful climate, having park views, being part of 157 00:15:45,020 --> 00:15:49,640 the phase two of the Civic Center is wonderful, having natural materials, celebrating the beautiful 158 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:56,040 landscape setting we're in, having a welcoming grand entrance, being just a place that people 159 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:01,020 want to be drawn into. And also perhaps being a little bit original or iconic as well, 160 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:06,740 people want to have something that perhaps will stand out as well. So those are wonderful 161 00:16:06,740 --> 00:16:11,160 feedback that we've got. And we'd like to hear from you that these reflect your values as well. 162 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:17,420 So for especially for our Parks and Rec commissioners now we get specific and I think when we 163 00:16:17,420 --> 00:16:21,000 presented last time you were going to say well there aren't there great opportunities outside 164 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,580 And, indeed, there are, because the beauty here is we're not just doing a tight-in-fill 165 00:16:25,580 --> 00:16:25,920 site. 166 00:16:26,060 --> 00:16:31,440 We're part of a whole civic center campus, phase two, is for sure going to complete the 167 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,060 main civic plaza that connects City Hall to the library, so that's definitely in the 168 00:16:36,060 --> 00:16:36,320 works. 169 00:16:36,580 --> 00:16:40,460 And what other opportunities there are was what we were asking the community, and amongst 170 00:16:40,460 --> 00:16:44,600 all these choices, we are getting also strong clear indications. 171 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:54,160 So, again, the first thing is people love to enjoy the climate and have places to read outdoors and we always need to be connected. 172 00:16:54,420 --> 00:16:58,280 So having a strong Wi-Fi there was part of what people really responded to. 173 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:04,360 Having pathways to walk and stroll, perhaps jog, take a stroll or walk your dog. 174 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:11,840 Any of those things are important. The library also does story walks, so these pathways can be really wonderful places to enjoy the landscape. 175 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:26,420 An open meadow is one of the key characteristics and opportunities that we'll be showing you in a few slides a little bit later that can be created here, which is just a wonderful pastoral setting where you can enjoy the landscape and sit and picnic and do other things. 176 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:35,440 The civic plaza outside city hall that goes across all of and that will be completed with the library is a wonderful community event space, a lot of great support for that. 177 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,460 and then places for children to play. 178 00:17:37,780 --> 00:17:40,100 It works so complimentary to libraries. 179 00:17:40,340 --> 00:17:45,640 Andrea and I were just talking to another Bay Area Library system today 180 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,700 and they were talking about having wonderful robust children's areas, 181 00:17:48,700 --> 00:17:52,920 which is a very big priority, as Andrea said, but having the outdoor space 182 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,920 so the kids can get their energy out before coming into the library, 183 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,860 they play area and the library go so well together. 184 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,320 So now I'm going to turn it over to Allison who will get to show you how we're starting 185 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,440 to assemble this together and the different options 186 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,200 and how we are evaluating them against the city's success 187 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:13,540 criteria. 188 00:18:16,090 --> 00:18:16,590 Yeah. 189 00:18:16,810 --> 00:18:18,730 So as David mentioned, we are taking all this input 190 00:18:18,730 --> 00:18:22,770 from the residents and also from library staff. 191 00:18:22,970 --> 00:18:24,970 And we're coming up with our three options, 192 00:18:25,290 --> 00:18:27,390 the renovation and addition. 193 00:18:27,770 --> 00:18:28,870 And then we also have a new. 194 00:18:29,330 --> 00:18:31,790 So we're going to kind of do a comparison here. 195 00:18:32,030 --> 00:18:33,750 But just to give you a quick overview, 196 00:18:33,950 --> 00:18:36,270 we've got an existing library with the addition. 197 00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:41,210 This will have potential underbuilding parking. 198 00:18:41,890 --> 00:18:44,450 It's got a space reserve for our future DPS, 199 00:18:44,670 --> 00:18:45,970 which is part of the master plan. 200 00:18:46,570 --> 00:18:48,550 New walkways, the community gardens. 201 00:18:49,170 --> 00:18:52,570 It changes the new entry for the libraries. 202 00:18:52,650 --> 00:18:55,250 It comes off of that civic plaza that just, you know, 203 00:18:55,390 --> 00:18:58,030 tried to use the space as much as possible outside. 204 00:18:58,710 --> 00:19:02,590 It does keep the original library entry point 205 00:19:02,590 --> 00:19:07,550 and the existing parking configuration, but it adds some new trails. 206 00:19:07,910 --> 00:19:11,810 So this is our layout for a existing and then an addition. 207 00:19:13,490 --> 00:19:16,010 And then we have a new library. 208 00:19:16,570 --> 00:19:20,470 So we have two versions of the library, but I'm just going to call it new for now. 209 00:19:20,810 --> 00:19:22,710 It's scaled up by size. 210 00:19:23,130 --> 00:19:26,930 But you'll notice here we also have a potential for an underground parking garage. 211 00:19:27,370 --> 00:19:30,110 We have also reserve space for a future DPS, 212 00:19:30,110 --> 00:19:35,830 as per the master plan, new walkways to the community gardens, new library entry directly 213 00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:42,050 across from city hall, more walkable space, it also includes that large children's playground. 214 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:51,680 So the Civic Center master plan was adopted by council in 2018 as part of that master plan, 215 00:19:51,900 --> 00:20:00,140 council identified success criteria. So these are the report card that we are looking at everything 216 00:20:00,140 --> 00:20:05,420 back to. So you've got improving the quality of service, fiscal responsibility, accessible 217 00:20:05,420 --> 00:20:10,980 to all members, civic and community engagement, increasing usability of open space, and then 218 00:20:10,980 --> 00:20:12,540 to be leaders in sustainability. 219 00:20:15,380 --> 00:20:19,740 So quickly to compare, you know, a new, and then we're 220 00:20:19,740 --> 00:20:25,000 also going to compare that to an existing with an addition. So the library project will provide 221 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:30,240 the best traditional and innovation to new spaces and improve user experience. This will be 222 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:35,120 easier to do with a new library, you're able to create new functionalities and just 223 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:39,540 connectivities in a new library versus using the existing footprint throughout. 224 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,220 So those are the two comparisons there when we go against this rubric here. 225 00:20:46,660 --> 00:20:54,160 Then for fiscal responsibility, fiscal responsibility has a couple components to it, obviously the 226 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:54,960 construction cost. 227 00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:59,540 If we're building a new library or renovating the existing, is there a temporary facility 228 00:20:59,540 --> 00:21:04,540 that needs to be constructed and considered through that process and then ongoing operational and maintenance costs. 229 00:21:05,940 --> 00:21:16,020 So just quickly here, if we were to do an addition to the library, we would probably have to do some sort of temporary facilities so that has an added cost. 230 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:23,580 Whereas if we do a new library, we can keep the existing library functioning and then kind of do what we did here for City Hall. 231 00:21:23,580 --> 00:21:29,340 right, keep City Hall. We move in and then we demo the old and create the wonderful site around it. 232 00:21:32,850 --> 00:21:39,050 And then the fiscal responsibility of the ongoing operational costs. So as you can see here is just a 233 00:21:39,050 --> 00:21:47,430 rough assumption of where we would have staff and need to place folks for communicating with the public, 234 00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:51,890 just having eyes on what's happening in the library. As you know with the existing library, 235 00:21:51,890 --> 00:21:57,990 it's a little bit more segmented, so you need more touch points visibility, whereas if we do a 236 00:21:57,990 --> 00:22:03,690 new build, you have that option for increasing the sightlines, laying things out in a specific way 237 00:22:03,690 --> 00:22:05,570 that meet the needs of the community today. 238 00:22:08,930 --> 00:22:11,710 Accessibility, obviously, we're going to meet all the 239 00:22:12,810 --> 00:22:15,610 accessibility needs in both builds. 240 00:22:17,710 --> 00:22:20,410 Civic and community engagement, again, this would be 241 00:22:20,410 --> 00:22:27,010 highlighted in both projects, but with the new, you are able to open up to the plaza and just 242 00:22:27,010 --> 00:22:33,490 set things up and program spaces that let's us really highlight that indoor and outdoor spaces 243 00:22:33,490 --> 00:22:39,130 and just program the space the way it's needed today but also give us more flexibility for tomorrow. 244 00:22:42,610 --> 00:22:49,190 Increase the ability of open space. So as I think you guys are pretty well aware with the 245 00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:54,550 New Civic Center, we were able to increase the open space here to be six acres of open space. 246 00:22:55,110 --> 00:22:58,750 So that was one of the big things we want to consider as we move into this new library. 247 00:23:00,050 --> 00:23:06,170 North of Olive, we've got about four and a half acres of open space right now with this 248 00:23:06,170 --> 00:23:07,690 new building. 249 00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:14,630 If we were to do an addition to the existing library, we would keep about four and a half acres. 250 00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:18,010 It probably isn't as usable as you can tell. 251 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:20,170 We eat up a lot of it with the new addition. 252 00:23:20,410 --> 00:23:23,850 We gain some back at the corner, but that's not where you're going to put a playground. 253 00:23:24,250 --> 00:23:28,790 So it is 4.5 acres, but it's just not as usable. 254 00:23:29,130 --> 00:23:36,050 Whereas on the new build, you can end up with almost 6.5 acres of open space and it's all 255 00:23:36,050 --> 00:23:41,110 together and it makes it a lot more programmable for how we want to lay things out. 256 00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:48,860 And then leaders in sustainability, we have the climate action playbook here at the city. 257 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,360 We will, at a minimum, meet lead gold. 258 00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:55,320 That is what is set forth in there for any new city building. 259 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:04,540 A, it would be, it is a possibility to be lead platinum net zero energy in a new build. 260 00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:10,240 We would not be able to achieve that gold if we were to do a renovation and an addition, 261 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,100 just with the existing footprint of the building, 262 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,540 and its current structure. 263 00:24:17,730 --> 00:24:18,690 So that was a lot. 264 00:24:19,090 --> 00:24:21,090 I'm trying to summarize it here for you. 265 00:24:21,850 --> 00:24:25,750 So you have the success criteria there on the left, 266 00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:28,910 a renovation and addition option versus a new option. 267 00:24:29,410 --> 00:24:32,490 So we've got improved quality of services, 268 00:24:33,170 --> 00:24:34,710 meets it for the existing. 269 00:24:35,030 --> 00:24:37,810 Obviously, anything will be better than what they have now. 270 00:24:38,030 --> 00:24:38,910 They'll have a bigger space. 271 00:24:39,070 --> 00:24:41,110 They'll be able to meet all the needs of the public, 272 00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:45,530 where as the new one kind of exceeds that with the ability to program the 273 00:24:45,530 --> 00:24:50,550 spaces and lay it out exactly how we need it today. Fiscaly responsible, there 274 00:24:50,550 --> 00:24:54,170 are higher operational costs and maintenance costs with a renovation in 275 00:24:54,170 --> 00:24:58,670 addition. There are slightly higher capital costs with an all-new construction. 276 00:25:00,430 --> 00:25:05,370 Accessibility, both will meet that. Civic and community engagement, again, we will 277 00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:12,850 hit the priorities that set forth by the community in that survey and then we're able to exceed 278 00:25:12,850 --> 00:25:18,610 that and just add more indoor outdoor space and community space in the new, with a new 279 00:25:18,610 --> 00:25:24,410 build. Increase the usability of open space. As you saw, the amount is the exact same with 280 00:25:24,410 --> 00:25:29,250 a renovation to the library in an addition. However, we are able to increase it by almost two 281 00:25:29,250 --> 00:25:35,710 acres with a new library. And then in leaders in sustainability, we will hit the lead 282 00:25:35,710 --> 00:25:41,770 gold requirement for both, but we have the option to meet lead platinum or net zero energy 283 00:25:41,770 --> 00:25:42,630 with a new build. 284 00:25:45,950 --> 00:25:46,710 So what comes next? 285 00:25:48,980 --> 00:25:51,180 So we're in the process of finishing up round two 286 00:25:51,180 --> 00:25:57,340 community engagement, that'll close in March 17. We'll take the information we get from 287 00:25:57,340 --> 00:26:02,120 you guys as well as the public and go to council for a study session on April 9th where we 288 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:03,280 We will present all this. 289 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,260 Then we will begin round three of community engagement on April 10th. 290 00:26:10,140 --> 00:26:14,860 We will then do another joint commission meeting with you on May 15th where we will 291 00:26:14,860 --> 00:26:19,420 review design options and we will be looking to you to come with a recommendation of a preferred 292 00:26:19,420 --> 00:26:20,740 option for council. 293 00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:27,400 We will take that to council in a workshop on May 21st and ask them to select a preferred 294 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,100 alternative. 295 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:33,220 At that point we will also be sharing them with them the polling data of where it looks 296 00:26:33,220 --> 00:26:38,120 like this is going to land with the public if it were to go to ballot and ask them to 297 00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:44,540 make the give us direction as staff to prepare ballot language for and how to move forward. 298 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,640 So we think that is a lot of information but we are open to questions. 299 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,460 Thank you so much for that, a lot of information, it's really exciting. 300 00:26:55,460 --> 00:26:59,580 Do any board members or commissioners have any comments or questions for staff? 301 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,200 Wait, wait, Commissioner Vitani. 302 00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:09,760 Thank you so much. 303 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,680 It's a lot of information and nice initiative and emphasis given on the library. 304 00:27:14,380 --> 00:27:15,440 I do have two questions. 305 00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:22,580 My first question is, I see that the information is collected using like the community surveys 306 00:27:22,580 --> 00:27:24,600 and all of the stuff. 307 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:31,140 I've seen there is a location of adults as well as children and the teens is increased significantly. 308 00:27:32,420 --> 00:27:37,220 So what is other basis like based on that, this allocation is determined. 309 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:45,160 For example, right, you know, for the children's and the teens, how many children's are like coming to the library? 310 00:27:45,380 --> 00:27:51,840 How much contents is like being like the used by the children's based on these metrics? 311 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:59,800 How does that allocation is being determined just based on the survey or based on some statistical data? 312 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,360 It's really a little bit of both. 313 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:12,460 Definitely, we took into account a lot of what came through the survey. 314 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,820 Everything that came through the survey, that's very important to us. 315 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:23,020 But the other factor, that is the children's, the youth space at the existing library 316 00:28:23,020 --> 00:28:30,080 as you saw on that first chart was very small. It accounts for currently 11 percent of the 317 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:38,480 building. The usage by children's, by the youth in Sunnyvale and the percentage of 318 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:45,340 youth of the library is 65 percent youth services. So that 11 percent footprint that they have 319 00:28:45,340 --> 00:28:52,920 for 65 percent of the overall use of the library is not, is disconnected. That's why you 320 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:58,980 see such a huge increase in the children's and teen spaces in all three options. 321 00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:05,480 I see. Yeah, so it's both good. Definitely. And my second question is, I haven't seen 322 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:11,300 any things is mentioned about the content of the library material. I'll give the context. 323 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:18,980 If I go into the library and if I wanted to browse some of the things because it's a world 324 00:29:18,980 --> 00:29:24,460 that is changing every day and the contents are really absolute. So there are a lot of contents 325 00:29:24,460 --> 00:29:30,200 that is sitting and occupying the library space which is absolute and people probably years 326 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:37,360 or years they don't look in that one. So any form of like you initiate you to how do you basically 327 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:43,580 like you know utilize those space digitize those contents or providing some kind of like the programs 328 00:29:43,580 --> 00:29:50,160 given an example that some kind of like the free online courses or like the 329 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,760 technological rather than stacking the paperback technological for like a 330 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,640 stuff which is constantly changing. Is there any thought process on that? 331 00:30:01,390 --> 00:30:31,250 So currently the last fiscal year, the library checked out about 1.5 million items. That was both in print and in e-book format. E-book's circulation for that last fiscal year is at about 15% and that has held steady for a couple of years. During the pandemic, the first pandemic year, that 2021. 332 00:30:31,250 --> 00:30:42,450 One, e-book usage was at about 20%, so it has dropped, and that is because we had access 333 00:30:42,830 --> 00:30:48,190 free access to a lot more e-book materials during that pandemic year that we don't anymore. 334 00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:57,950 So to your question, e-books are not the most popular way of delivering content to the community. 335 00:30:57,950 --> 00:31:04,690 it is still very much based in print format and that has a lot to do with 65% of the use being 336 00:31:04,690 --> 00:31:09,590 by children. You know they're wanting those board books, they want those picture books, 337 00:31:09,870 --> 00:31:14,370 they want those beginning readers that they can take and read in the night. 338 00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:23,390 We have a lot of materials in the library obviously you've seen them and gave you some numbers there 339 00:31:23,390 --> 00:31:25,090 We're at about 300,000 items. 340 00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:28,950 But we are also very careful on what we select. 341 00:31:29,370 --> 00:31:32,470 So items that do not check out very much 342 00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:34,590 don't spend their time on the shelf. 343 00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:37,250 We might put them back in the storage room. 344 00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:40,150 If they're old materials like old medical books, 345 00:31:40,350 --> 00:31:42,610 old legal books, old travel books, 346 00:31:42,730 --> 00:31:45,070 books that get dated, we remove from the system 347 00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:47,610 and we replace it with something new 348 00:31:47,610 --> 00:31:55,290 or something online that can provide the same information. 349 00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:59,450 So we do have to your question about online courses. 350 00:31:59,790 --> 00:32:04,950 We have plenty of resources that are in person in physical format 351 00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:10,510 and online to meet that need, whether it's an online course 352 00:32:10,510 --> 00:32:15,150 or training, taking a civil service test, 353 00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:21,150 taking a, you know, a mail carrier exam we have all of this online. Thank you. Thank you so much. 354 00:32:23,210 --> 00:32:27,110 Thank you. I'm doing any other board members or commissioners or questions for comments. 355 00:32:32,420 --> 00:32:34,520 Board member Jirikanga. 356 00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:42,590 Thank you for the intense presentation. I'm sure it took a lot of time to 357 00:32:42,590 --> 00:32:51,790 prepare that. I have just a clarifying question. This is about the activities which didn't 358 00:32:51,790 --> 00:33:00,410 make in top 10. So there was a mention that we still can accommodate that. So my question, 359 00:33:00,510 --> 00:33:07,220 my clarifying question is, so are we cutting down the space to these activities which didn't 360 00:33:07,220 --> 00:33:14,620 in top 10 or what is the compromise there? A little bit of both. Some of it is programming 361 00:33:14,620 --> 00:33:23,750 from an operational standpoint. If there's a conflict between if a children's space gets 362 00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:29,070 it or an adult's space gets it, that's something that Michelle and her team will get to work out 363 00:33:29,070 --> 00:33:33,710 through an operational standpoint. Some of the spaces did get smaller, but it would be things like 364 00:33:34,770 --> 00:33:42,090 maybe there's a monthly yoga class that in the larger we would be able to accommodate but in 365 00:33:42,090 --> 00:33:51,550 the smaller we would say would it go to the recreation center community center or yeah I think yeah 366 00:33:51,550 --> 00:33:56,410 just to build on what Allison was saying some of it isn't necessarily space some of it is program 367 00:33:56,410 --> 00:34:03,470 base so we might place a higher priority on something that was up the list and a lower priority on 368 00:34:03,470 --> 00:34:10,530 something that was lower on the list. So if, for instance, like Maker, and as Andrea said, 369 00:34:10,670 --> 00:34:16,310 Maker in create spaces was very high up on the list, right? So we looked at creating a space for 370 00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:21,110 that. If it was lower on the list, let's just say hypothetically, we could still offer some of 371 00:34:21,110 --> 00:34:26,530 those programs. We might just not create an entire room for it. So that's how we're looking at 372 00:34:26,530 --> 00:34:36,110 this is the types of spaces and the types of activities that were the top of mind for 373 00:34:36,110 --> 00:34:41,550 the residents are the ones that we carved out the most space for. The other ones, it 374 00:34:41,550 --> 00:34:45,490 doesn't mean they just go away. There are still people interested in them and they might 375 00:34:45,490 --> 00:34:51,810 be things that we're currently doing. We just might do it in a different way. But we, 376 00:34:54,630 --> 00:34:54,970 you 377 00:34:54,970 --> 00:35:00,270 know. So another, yeah, another example that is the resiliency center. We're not going 378 00:35:00,270 --> 00:35:05,130 to have a dedicated resiliency center space, but it will be a cooling center when it's hot 379 00:35:05,130 --> 00:35:09,090 out. And there's going to be power when the power goes out. So we'll still be built to 380 00:35:09,090 --> 00:35:13,350 have those things, but we're not going to have a, I don't think we ever would have just 381 00:35:13,350 --> 00:35:18,970 a room that's just cold. You know, we're going to, we're using the whole library, but we're 382 00:35:18,970 --> 00:35:23,190 taking what the public is saying and helping prioritize the space to meet the needs. 383 00:35:23,950 --> 00:35:29,310 Another example is the music in movies. You don't need a music in movie room all the time, 384 00:35:29,450 --> 00:35:33,370 but one of the spaces can be flexible. So if the library wants to host a movie night, 385 00:35:33,490 --> 00:35:38,390 there's a space for them to do that. It just wouldn't be there every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. 386 00:35:39,070 --> 00:35:45,010 So it's like a multi-purpose, it's flexible space. Yeah. Just another question, again, 387 00:35:45,110 --> 00:35:50,070 a clarifying question. So when we say unusable spaces for some of the options, 388 00:35:50,070 --> 00:35:58,470 can we elaborate on that? Why is that an unusable space? Like, it's for the options of 389 00:35:59,650 --> 00:36:02,730 renovation plus addition. Yeah. 390 00:36:05,170 --> 00:36:07,650 I think she's referring to the outside area. 391 00:36:11,290 --> 00:36:19,470 So I was specifically talking that corner of past story and olive. You're not going to create a 392 00:36:19,470 --> 00:36:25,190 playground right at that corner. It's still green space and you can set, you could read there, 393 00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:29,370 but you're not walking your dog through the trail. That's just that small corner. 394 00:36:30,810 --> 00:36:35,950 Good. It's taking up a little bit more that was parking and making it greener at that corner, 395 00:36:36,250 --> 00:36:41,530 but you're not creating a playground. You're not putting a walking path there. You're not 396 00:36:43,410 --> 00:36:48,210 doing an outdoor activity at that space. It's just that corner is green. 397 00:36:49,870 --> 00:36:58,650 And last one is when we are going with option one that renovation and addition, there was 398 00:36:58,650 --> 00:37:02,370 a picture there which says you're going to build a new temporary space. 399 00:37:03,350 --> 00:37:09,290 So if we are not touching the existing library and you're building around it, do we still 400 00:37:09,290 --> 00:37:11,550 need to make a temporary space for it? 401 00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:20,290 So if you're doing a renovation and addition, you will need some either to close the library 402 00:37:20,930 --> 00:37:22,050 or have a temporary. 403 00:37:22,830 --> 00:37:29,430 In order to meet the needs of the public and meet code requirements, ADA, seismic, all 404 00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:36,370 of the things that you would need in a renovation, you would have to get a majority of the library. 405 00:37:36,970 --> 00:37:39,270 So in doing that, we need to put the books in storage. 406 00:37:39,530 --> 00:37:40,190 It's just not something. 407 00:37:40,190 --> 00:37:43,750 You're not going to want the children running around in the construction zone. 408 00:37:43,870 --> 00:37:45,890 The bathrooms might be in the middle of a renovation. 409 00:37:46,690 --> 00:37:50,350 So there are times when that would, at a minimum, there are times when that would have 410 00:37:50,350 --> 00:37:52,750 to be closed and we would have to have the collection elsewhere. 411 00:37:53,530 --> 00:37:56,370 And so that's an added cost in that process. 412 00:37:57,590 --> 00:38:03,850 So that would be portable or it's so, there's different options, Michelle can elaborate more 413 00:38:03,850 --> 00:38:04,210 on it. 414 00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:07,630 But other communities have done portable, they've rented out space. 415 00:38:08,290 --> 00:38:12,110 You could use branch library, but again, that's not going to be as large. 416 00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:21,610 So, yeah, I mean, in my experience, when we did a renovation, we took over the gymnasium 417 00:38:21,610 --> 00:38:24,710 at one of the schools for about five months. 418 00:38:24,730 --> 00:38:28,110 They let us have it, and it was just a giant room. 419 00:38:28,370 --> 00:38:30,050 You know, there's lots of bookshelves in it. 420 00:38:30,270 --> 00:38:35,690 It wasn't ideal, but that was what we could do, and we could only put in a very small amount 421 00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:40,570 of the collection so we only took a high demand children's books. We didn't take anything else 422 00:38:40,570 --> 00:38:45,450 so everyone else was kind of out of luck but that was the only space available at that time. 423 00:38:45,730 --> 00:38:51,130 Now you know there might be more retail space available because some of the big retailers 424 00:38:51,130 --> 00:38:55,690 you know have closed up so we might be able to find something in a strip mall where we could use 425 00:38:55,690 --> 00:39:01,170 but then you really have to still take that building and bring it up to you know to be something we can 426 00:39:01,170 --> 00:39:07,870 use, you know, you need bathrooms, you need, you know, new flooring, you need to make 427 00:39:07,870 --> 00:39:09,590 sure there's air conditioning, all of these things. 428 00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:12,050 Thank you very much. 429 00:39:13,710 --> 00:39:14,430 Chair Kestin? 430 00:39:21,290 --> 00:39:21,830 There we go. 431 00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:22,930 Thank you so much. 432 00:39:23,690 --> 00:39:24,650 There's a great presentation. 433 00:39:25,130 --> 00:39:27,990 I really do appreciate the hard work that you put into it. 434 00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:31,250 Thank you so much, David, for remembering me at the market. 435 00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:34,350 I'd like to let you know that both of my sons voted in that as well. 436 00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:39,710 They were very excited about the idea of a kid's playground area in more outdoor space. 437 00:39:43,350 --> 00:39:46,790 So I'd also like to say, Michelle, you were saying that things that don't get checked 438 00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:48,970 out get off the shelves pretty quickly. 439 00:39:49,290 --> 00:39:52,450 That also like to say that things that do get checked out get off their shelves pretty 440 00:39:52,450 --> 00:39:53,010 quickly too. 441 00:39:53,650 --> 00:39:59,370 I can tell you for a fact that finding an adventure time graphic novel at the library is difficult 442 00:39:59,370 --> 00:40:00,290 to find, right? 443 00:40:00,390 --> 00:40:01,230 I mean, very popular. 444 00:40:01,230 --> 00:40:04,390 So the team collection is one of the most popular collection. 445 00:40:04,990 --> 00:40:09,770 So like anything we can do to add more square footage to our library is something we should 446 00:40:09,770 --> 00:40:11,970 be paying very close attention to. 447 00:40:12,490 --> 00:40:17,310 And with that, I would just like to say that under no circumstances would I think that 448 00:40:17,310 --> 00:40:22,950 adding only 60,000 square feet for the new library would be a good idea? 449 00:40:23,770 --> 00:40:27,270 The smaller footprint, I think is a very bad idea. 450 00:40:28,010 --> 00:40:30,790 If anything, I would say we need to be planning for the future. 451 00:40:31,370 --> 00:40:33,190 When's the next time we're going to build another library? 452 00:40:34,430 --> 00:40:35,210 I mean, we're all going to be dead. 453 00:40:35,550 --> 00:40:37,990 Every one of this room will be dead when we do something like that. 454 00:40:38,450 --> 00:40:43,950 So we need to be thinking far advanced into the future about what the needs for the city 455 00:40:43,950 --> 00:40:48,670 are going to be 50 years from now, 60 years from now, if we're going to see a return on the 456 00:40:48,670 --> 00:40:49,490 investment scene here. 457 00:40:50,110 --> 00:40:53,350 So I would say 120,000 square feet would be your minimum. 458 00:40:53,350 --> 00:40:57,350 We should be thinking higher and bigger than that. 459 00:41:01,230 --> 00:41:04,970 That's just sheer, that's just the math, right? 460 00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:11,550 It's good to see that we're thinking about the indoor and outdoor space concepts. 461 00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:19,710 It looks like those were the top three options that were requested from the design values, indoor outdoor connection, 462 00:41:19,710 --> 00:41:21,990 and park views and natural materials. 463 00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:27,490 I think the more that we think about those concepts as we move into the programming phase 464 00:41:27,490 --> 00:41:35,270 for this project, we will maximize the return on our investment. 465 00:41:36,330 --> 00:41:41,610 Can we talk briefly about how we can pierce the envelope of the building 466 00:41:41,610 --> 00:41:48,630 to blend what is indoors and blur what is outdoors into the space. 467 00:41:49,350 --> 00:41:58,270 I think one of the great things about this idea is that the more open new outdoor space we have access to, 468 00:41:58,730 --> 00:42:01,530 the more we're able to tap into the parks development fund. 469 00:42:02,410 --> 00:42:07,470 And I think that that's a very smart concept, very smart idea that we should be paying attention to. 470 00:42:07,470 --> 00:42:08,290 So to 471 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:17,450 the one concept that you have, I think it's slide, 472 00:42:20,210 --> 00:42:21,330 we can go to slide 20. 473 00:42:22,610 --> 00:42:25,370 It shows the existing library in the new edition. 474 00:42:25,850 --> 00:42:31,510 I'm not sure who's doing the parking analysis of this, but if for some reason we were to 475 00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:38,930 stay with the existing library, it doesn't seem consistent that the option 2 and option 3, 476 00:42:40,370 --> 00:42:46,190 The parking needs for option two and option three are somehow consistent with what's going on at option one. 477 00:42:47,210 --> 00:42:56,270 I would say if we were going to do something like option one, then that entire bottom left hand side of parking should definitely be removed from the drawing. 478 00:42:57,870 --> 00:43:06,090 Just thinking forward what our needs were going to be, especially as we see transportation alternatives take over. 479 00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:13,970 the way that we move from point A to point B. The ability to create more outdoor space 480 00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:17,850 has to take precedent over where we're parking our car. 481 00:43:20,890 --> 00:43:25,810 It'd be great to hear more about what the renovation options are. 482 00:43:26,030 --> 00:43:31,650 If we're going to seriously discuss what renovations are going to be working in that line of work, 483 00:43:31,830 --> 00:43:34,930 I can tell you people say, oh, I want to keep this. 484 00:43:34,930 --> 00:43:40,930 And the contractor loves people who say that because you start off with the idea that 485 00:43:40,930 --> 00:43:42,650 oh, we're going to keep all these great things. 486 00:43:43,010 --> 00:43:47,450 And then you slowly but surely whittle away what it is you're going to be keeping until 487 00:43:47,450 --> 00:43:52,530 the only thing you have left is the one item you absolutely loved, which are going to be 488 00:43:52,530 --> 00:43:57,790 that vaulted ceiling right by the administration offices with those exposed wood columns, 489 00:43:57,790 --> 00:43:59,950 wood beams that are gorgeous, right? 490 00:43:59,950 --> 00:44:06,570 But that said we could totally rip that stuff right out and put it into a brand new building 491 00:44:06,570 --> 00:44:13,190 and keep the cultural items that are significant to us that are important to the city of Sonnyville 492 00:44:13,630 --> 00:44:19,710 and have that integrated into the future that we craft for ourselves. 493 00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:27,650 It's unfortunate that too often we lose part of our culture, our background as we move forward. 494 00:44:28,810 --> 00:44:35,310 But that being said, I'm not sure that, you know, the brick library is the one part of 495 00:44:35,310 --> 00:44:37,250 our culture that we want to hold on to, right? 496 00:44:37,850 --> 00:44:40,850 There's ways of keeping it, there's ways of holding on to it, there's ways of having 497 00:44:40,850 --> 00:44:41,650 it still with us. 498 00:44:42,430 --> 00:44:47,690 The ability to reuse and repurpose existing materials, which we see consistent here in 499 00:44:47,690 --> 00:44:49,010 this building, right? 500 00:44:49,630 --> 00:44:50,490 What is it, the tables? 501 00:44:51,350 --> 00:44:53,990 We're taking from the red woodgroves that used to occupy here. 502 00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:56,710 That's, I think, a pretty good idea. 503 00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:59,630 It's really great to see. 504 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:17,680 One of the cultural items for our current state, still being seen on all three of these drawings. And that's the Charles Street Community Gardens. It's fantastic to see that those are staying put. I'm sure that everyone who uses those gardens would be very happy to see that that's still there. 505 00:45:20,190 --> 00:45:29,070 We talked briefly about slightly higher capital costs for new construction. It'd be good to have a better idea about what that actual delta is. 506 00:45:29,070 --> 00:45:49,050 especially when we start talking about going from lead to lead platinum, what the actual energy costs savings are going to be, especially over a long period of time, whether or not that is actually a net gain in costs for running a building and having a new construction building. 507 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:01,460 The construction time, the details of proposed construction time would be fantastic to see. 508 00:46:02,420 --> 00:46:12,680 And I would say it's unfortunate that Vice Chair Mason isn't here, but with her in mind 509 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:19,080 I would like to point out that, you know, I'm not speaking for her obviously, but I would 510 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,260 like to point out something that she does bring up quite often. 511 00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:28,040 When we're gathering information from the survey, first off, you're doing a great job. 512 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,960 Thank you so much for your hard work. 513 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:48,140 Thank you so much for your efforts, but that being said, it'd be great to see what we can do to get more input from the area codes 9-4, excuse me, zip code 9-4-0-8-5, slide number 14, 9-4-0-8-5, and zip code 9-4-0-8-9. 514 00:46:48,140 --> 00:46:55,740 And it appears as though majority of the population that's giving the input is from a very specific 515 00:46:55,740 --> 00:46:58,780 section of town and be great to see more input from the north. 516 00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:04,160 I'm not sure how we do that, but it'd be great to see that. 517 00:47:04,260 --> 00:47:11,100 And I know that Commissioner Vice Chair Mason would want to find out more about how we can 518 00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:11,380 do that. 519 00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:14,340 And I think that will close my comments. 520 00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:15,040 Thank you. 521 00:47:16,620 --> 00:47:18,720 So I'll test on a couple of things just really quickly. 522 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,020 On the population, one of the things we just wanted to show with this slide is that most 523 00:47:23,020 --> 00:47:27,680 of the population is in southern Sunnyvale, so that's why we have the two columns, so 524 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:33,980 you can see that the percentage of the population that's in 8, 5, or 8, 9, and then the percentage 525 00:47:33,980 --> 00:47:35,280 of what we're getting back. 526 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:40,160 So yes, we will continue to try and hit as much as Sunnyvale as possible, but that was 527 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,940 what we were trying to show is there's not as much residential in that area. 528 00:47:44,940 --> 00:47:45,100 Yeah. 529 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,620 Under those zip codes, I should say. 530 00:47:49,820 --> 00:47:51,700 So we will continue to reach out. 531 00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:57,840 Just to clarify, you're saying that this is not a respondent. 532 00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:04,340 This bar chart is not consistent with the respondent data coming in. 533 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:18,860 So a, so 15% of the population is in 8, 94085 and we've gotten 10% of our survey results 534 00:48:18,860 --> 00:48:20,000 from that area. 535 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:20,480 Okay. 536 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,640 So that's what we're trying to show is that there's not is, I agree, we're still trying 537 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,960 to blanket as much of the city as we possibly can, but I just wanted to make that statement 538 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:34,800 it clear that we from a proportional standpoint, we're hoping that we're getting close. 539 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:41,240 As far as the cost, we are working on all of those and we will have that next time around 540 00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:49,990 how much the renovation, the addition, renovation addition, and the new will cost in those two 541 00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:50,510 different options. 542 00:48:50,610 --> 00:48:55,370 That's also information we have for the polling, so we'll go through that, feel like there's 543 00:48:55,370 --> 00:48:55,790 one more. 544 00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:56,870 Oh, the parking. 545 00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:59,770 The parking number is set forced in the master plan. 546 00:48:59,770 --> 00:49:02,850 So the number of parking stalls is actually dictated in that. 547 00:49:03,290 --> 00:49:12,150 That doesn't mean we can't look at it, but it's a campus-wide number of parking stalls to serve City Hall, the library, and public safety. 548 00:49:12,670 --> 00:49:17,970 So it's looked at campus-wide, which is one of the reasons why underground parking is so great. 549 00:49:18,110 --> 00:49:24,030 It gives you that open space, and you only have one shot for underground parking when you build the building. 550 00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:28,430 So that's, it has a high cost, but it does have a great benefit. 551 00:49:28,430 --> 00:49:33,950 may be a mistake. Where do we see the underground parking and these and these so we're exploring 552 00:49:33,950 --> 00:49:41,190 it in all of the options. Okay. Is that the the the the the broken yeah broken line is the 553 00:49:41,830 --> 00:49:47,290 difference between existing and addition we can't put underground parking under the existing so we 554 00:49:47,290 --> 00:49:52,590 could only put it under that addition and so that limits how much underground parking you can do 555 00:49:52,590 --> 00:49:58,670 with an addition. Yeah well definitely recouping what's at grade would be you know the priority 556 00:49:58,670 --> 00:50:07,730 and making use of that space would be much more would be beneficial. And then just so your 557 00:50:07,730 --> 00:50:15,610 understanding square footage this building is 120,000 square feet so just for comparison. 558 00:50:15,610 --> 00:50:23,470 So at two floors versus four, it'll give you an idea of how expansive that is. 559 00:50:23,810 --> 00:50:24,470 That's no. 560 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,540 Board member Chang. 561 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,080 Thank you. 562 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:38,320 My first question is the zip code breakdown is really helpful, but the survey was also offered in three languages. 563 00:50:38,580 --> 00:50:44,200 I'm wondering if you could provide the breakdown for the languages it was taken in in comparison to the demographics. 564 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,380 I don't have that on me, but that is something we can get to you for sure. 565 00:50:48,740 --> 00:50:48,900 Thank you. 566 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,820 And then my second question is in all three and in the master plan, there's a space 567 00:50:52,820 --> 00:50:58,680 reserved for DPS and I'm wondering what level of engagement there is with DPS and what level 568 00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,580 of buy-in they have. 569 00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:10,820 So DPS just got their EOC, right, and the tenant improvement. 570 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,000 So that was the first part of the master plan. 571 00:51:14,060 --> 00:51:20,040 Right now, DPS has buy-in in the sense that there's a new building, it is part of the master plan, 572 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:26,460 there are requirements set forth for sizing, location, secure lot, what streets it comes off of, 573 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,040 all that is set forth in the master plan and that's how this area was, these areas were identified, 574 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,000 is that answering your... 575 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,220 I guess if they're involved in kind of some of the outreach. 576 00:51:38,420 --> 00:51:45,320 So the DPS building is not part of this project, it would be part of a future phase of the master plan. 577 00:51:45,580 --> 00:51:52,580 So right now the only requirement is for reserving space and making sure that we can meet their needs as we move forward. 578 00:51:53,540 --> 00:52:00,440 Okay, great. Thank you. And then my final comment is just that I attended the Lunar New Year event at the library and it was packed in the middle of a storm. 579 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,720 So, I think that speaks to the space constraints, especially for the children's area. 580 00:52:07,570 --> 00:52:07,990 Thank you. 581 00:52:10,340 --> 00:52:10,900 I agree. 582 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,280 I have just one parameter. 583 00:52:14,060 --> 00:52:22,020 On the beginning of the service study, one of the document provided was a map of the 584 00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:23,080 user library. 585 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:31,300 And I think that to understand the engagement of the population, people may go to the closest 586 00:52:31,300 --> 00:52:31,920 library. 587 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:32,740 Okay? 588 00:52:32,740 --> 00:52:41,320 So, for example, the fact that we are working on a life-good library, it is to help the population 589 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,660 on the north of the city. 590 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:50,640 So, this understandable that population on the north are less responding because they 591 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,900 are more concerned by life, by life-good, and so on. 592 00:52:54,220 --> 00:53:01,240 So, the 20th understandable is it will be good to have a map of the existing library where 593 00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:02,160 people can go. 594 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:15,280 Thank you. I just had a couple questions. When you look, when you show the, the 595 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:22,340 graph of increased score footage, to totally understand how the children's youth area grew, the 596 00:53:22,340 --> 00:53:30,360 teen area didn't seem to grow relatively as much. And is there, I just wanted to, is there a percentage 597 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,600 that you were looking to grow it, or is there a reason that we're not growing the teens as much? 598 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,480 slide 599 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:39,680 4? 600 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:54,540 Oh no fun, page 4, slide 8, sorry. Actually, the teen area is growing pretty considerably. 601 00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:03,980 It doesn't look, I think, just on this chart as much as the growth is. The teen collection 602 00:54:03,980 --> 00:54:11,120 is growing, I think, where you have to look at is the teen space is so tiny right now that 603 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:21,040 any kind of growth makes it. It's just not giving you the big bar chart there, but it is growing significantly, and also is part of that growth are 604 00:54:21,620 --> 00:54:29,720 study rooms and meeting spaces as well, which will also add because these kids are coming in and a study area. 605 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:35,960 So you're going to have your collection space that's going to grow, but that you've also got that study room and meeting space. 606 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,060 So the teams will grow pretty, pretty sizeably. 607 00:54:39,660 --> 00:54:39,960 Thank you. 608 00:54:40,340 --> 00:54:41,940 And sorry, just to add quickly. 609 00:54:42,140 --> 00:54:46,920 So the children in Twin Space has more open space for the kids, lower bookshelf so they 610 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,820 need a little bit more space for that. 611 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,900 And then the team space also overlaps with the red space. 612 00:54:54,060 --> 00:54:57,840 That meeting study flex with Michelle is saying they'll be adjacent to each other so that 613 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,440 they have that space for the study and other needs. 614 00:55:02,140 --> 00:55:02,580 Thank you. 615 00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:05,940 And echoing Chair Kestin, I think, if we're going to do this, it may go to the next question. 616 00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:14,460 sense to go big, but going to the 96,000, why bother? But that said, obviously, if there's 617 00:55:14,460 --> 00:55:20,340 that cost, the difference in cost is a big factor. At what point does the community get 618 00:55:20,340 --> 00:55:26,200 to start thinking about those trade-offs? What I'm concerned about is when you, when we ask 619 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:31,220 people, what's your ideal? Everybody has their picture of the ideal. But then when they get 620 00:55:31,220 --> 00:55:35,240 the price tag for that ideal, and especially when it's a bond measure, something that ideal 621 00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:41,140 listen to this important thing anymore. And so at what point do we go back and say this is your 622 00:55:41,140 --> 00:55:48,440 ideal and this is knowing how much it might cost. Is that still your ideal or how do we structure 623 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,940 this in such a way that it becomes appealing and that we're going to get the voters on this? 624 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,360 You go to slide four. 625 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,240 So slide four has our overall schedule on it but there is a 626 00:56:02,460 --> 00:56:08,160 polling is an item that will start probably in mid-April and that's when we have a 627 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:13,320 polling consultants that our finance department has held procure and they will start calling 628 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:19,380 registered voters and say if you spend this much this is what you get or would you pay 629 00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:25,440 a little bit more and you would get this and it'll all be related to the property tax. 630 00:56:26,380 --> 00:56:30,880 So we will do that and that information will be going to counsel for them to make that 631 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:38,260 decision on what they're hearing that the public will support on 521. Again, if we go on to the 632 00:56:38,260 --> 00:56:46,800 ballot for this year, it has to be, it's not a 50 plus 1, it's a 67, it's 2 thirds that need to 633 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:52,160 pass it for now. That's what we're going on. I know there's other things on the ballot, but that 634 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,680 is what we have to plan for, that it would need to pass by 67% of the residents. 635 00:56:58,720 --> 00:56:59,360 That's really 636 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:05,640 where that public education case there, C, comes into play, what you were asking in terms 637 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:10,800 of, you know, how do we get that message across? That's really what happens at that point. 638 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:18,860 We cannot advocate for anyone to pass anything, but we can provide information on if, you know, 639 00:57:19,740 --> 00:57:25,500 whatever the language that's decided, here's what you're going to get for that and make sure people 640 00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:27,040 will have a very clear understanding, 641 00:57:27,260 --> 00:57:29,580 whether it's lead gold or lead platinum, 642 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,300 whether they're getting an underground parking, 643 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,580 whether they're going to get all things 644 00:57:33,580 --> 00:57:35,860 because it's the 120,000 square foot. 645 00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:37,540 All of that will come through 646 00:57:37,540 --> 00:57:39,100 in a public education campaign. 647 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,200 Okay, and there's always the possibility 648 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,280 that we don't make that 67%. 649 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,240 In the context of the master plan, 650 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:52,280 what happens to that portion of the master plan? 651 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:58,980 I guess it would have to go to Council and determine if the funding would be coming from the general fund or other sources. 652 00:58:00,220 --> 00:58:02,800 Or if they want to go out again two years from now. 653 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:11,800 I guess the question is would they consider keeping the library as it is in making other changes? 654 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,620 I'm just curious what would be to be decided. 655 00:58:14,620 --> 00:58:15,760 Okay, yes. 656 00:58:15,780 --> 00:58:16,580 I'll put the key direction. 657 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:17,760 Thank you. 658 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,060 Any other questions or comments? 659 00:58:23,660 --> 00:58:24,220 Oh. 660 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:25,500 Oh, there are none. 661 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:28,960 Thank you. 662 00:58:30,540 --> 00:58:31,560 Kathy Brocard. 663 00:58:37,110 --> 00:58:38,450 Hi, I'm Kathy Brocard. 664 00:58:39,310 --> 00:58:41,510 I'm also active with the Friends of the Library. 665 00:58:42,350 --> 00:58:49,270 And so if you could go back to slide 8 or we talked again about the spacing and who uses the 666 00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:55,450 spaces. The question is, the library currently has the basement, the first floor and the second floor. 667 00:58:56,210 --> 00:59:01,730 When you did the spacing, did you take into account all the basement and the first floor and the 668 00:59:01,730 --> 00:59:11,550 second floor? And then, so the friends are hoping to have, you know, the same or more than we have. 669 00:59:12,090 --> 00:59:16,950 And I don't see any much space on the today's space for the friends. Do you know how much 670 00:59:16,950 --> 00:59:19,710 They allocated to the friends in 671 00:59:22,050 --> 00:59:28,930 the in the future no now now it's about 200 square feet total 672 00:59:28,930 --> 00:59:33,670 Would you say or less that maybe about a hundred for the friends? Oh in the basement 673 00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:39,510 Yeah, well the basement and the first floor because we're going to do anything on the second floor. Do you have that number? 674 00:59:50,970 --> 00:59:52,590 I'd be glad to show you our spaces 675 00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:55,630 You think it's 1,400 square feet? 676 00:59:57,730 --> 00:59:58,490 I can verify. 677 00:59:59,090 --> 00:59:59,710 That'd be great. 678 01:00:02,900 --> 01:00:06,740 And then, any idea what you hope we'd use in the future? 679 01:00:10,970 --> 01:00:35,110 We're working with the friends, so we've had one presentation with the Friends of the Library, but we're still working actively with them to gather there and discuss these for today and in the future. So we have some safe housing issues, but we haven't specifically decided exactly. So I think we're looking to go back to them. Yeah, we were scheduled to go back next week and talk and find out what the friends needs are. 680 01:00:36,310 --> 01:00:45,150 Oh that's great, did you let our president know that would be great if you could. I think we're on the schedule. Great. Thank you. 681 01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:52,020 Thank you. 682 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,180 Do we need to have a discussion? 683 01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:09,040 No, okay. Thank you so much for this detailed and incredibly complex presentation. We're going to look forward to the next one and wish you luck as you move forward. 684 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:18,820 Well, we're excited. We're very excited about this. Thank you. So we'll move on to the next presentation, which is 24-0392 branch library update. 685 01:01:26,290 --> 01:01:32,890 Yeah, thank you. Damon Sparrasino, recreation superintendent with the library and recreation services. 686 01:01:33,250 --> 01:01:40,570 I've had the good fortune and pleasure of working with Garrett and our public works department in. 687 01:01:40,570 --> 01:01:46,590 And on this project, and since Garrett, our library superintendent, couldn't be with 688 01:01:46,590 --> 01:01:52,070 us tonight, I was happy to sit in and give a brief update for everybody. 689 01:01:52,750 --> 01:01:53,570 Next slide, please. 690 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:07,200 Just to recap on the overall project and the previous efforts relative to the schedule 691 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:14,760 and timeline, we conducted the feasibility study and the memorandum of understanding with 692 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,000 the school districts were finalized in January of 2020. 693 01:02:18,940 --> 01:02:24,360 Community outreach took place in 2020 between June and September. 694 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:31,400 And then concept designs and presentations took place between November and December 695 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:38,580 of 2020, and then council approved the concept design in December of 2020. 696 01:02:40,700 --> 01:02:50,600 The preferred concept was then presented or selected by council and began a Department 697 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:58,920 of Public Works then began working with the consultant to further work on that design. 698 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:03,560 So the design was complete in early 2023. 699 01:03:05,500 --> 01:03:13,520 The school district in city went through DSA permitting in August of 23 and the public 700 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,620 art design selection is currently in progress. 701 01:03:18,100 --> 01:03:23,040 I have a little bit more on that for you when we get to the closing remarks. 702 01:03:24,020 --> 01:03:33,260 And then additionally, we've met with the architectural firm and subs on furniture and furnishings 703 01:03:33,260 --> 01:03:40,680 The checkout equipment, network equipment, and begun collection discussions. 704 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:55,640 Just as a recap, the preferred design has painted cement plaster, really has the indoor outdoor 705 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:56,120 feel. 706 01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:04,080 One of the main themes we heard through the community outreach is to really have the branch 707 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:09,560 library have the look and feel of the existing neighborhood which has a lot of 708 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:17,880 eichlers and mid-century modern architecture. So that's also why the design 709 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,300 came in the way it has. 710 01:04:21,500 --> 01:04:24,490 Here you'll see some of the color palettes that were 711 01:04:24,490 --> 01:04:34,810 collected and a hint through the layout in terms of the cutaway of the building. 712 01:04:36,310 --> 01:04:45,750 In the upper left-hand corner, you'll see the community rooms, the maker spaces, in the upper right-hand corner. 713 01:04:45,990 --> 01:04:50,730 You'll see the office spaces and the material handling spaces. 714 01:04:50,730 --> 01:04:56,590 is, and then you'll rotate through the main mall area, and you'll see another creator 715 01:04:56,590 --> 01:05:04,150 space, some of the meeting rooms, and then as you move through the left hand side, the 716 01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:10,070 lower left hand side, you'll see the children's area, and then in the far left wing, kind of 717 01:05:10,070 --> 01:05:16,990 in the middle, you'll see the school district buildings, both the high school district and 718 01:05:16,990 --> 01:05:25,550 the elementary school district. The elementary school district will also have access from the adjacent 719 01:05:25,550 --> 01:05:32,430 school through a breezeway and then you can also see that the elementary school districts kind 720 01:05:32,430 --> 01:05:37,470 of work through how they'd like to have their smaller tables in the groupings if you could see it in 721 01:05:37,470 --> 01:05:38,670 sort of a classroom style. 722 01:05:42,190 --> 01:05:47,010 The other element that was built in as a reminder is the after-hour holds 723 01:05:47,010 --> 01:05:53,170 and pick up checkout area located in the front area of the library in the foyer, and 724 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:03,880 here we have 725 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:11,620 an example or a picture of the makerspace that will be a focal point located on the as we went 726 01:06:11,620 --> 01:06:17,260 through before the upper left hand corner just off the entry. The concepts to provide access and 727 01:06:17,260 --> 01:06:26,100 hands-on instruction to creation tools, resins may not otherwise be able to afford or have on their 728 01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:33,960 own. Some of these would be a 3D printer, 3D carving machine, like the X-carve laser cutter, 729 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:42,580 silkspring printing press, heat press, vinyl cutter, large format poster, printer. 730 01:06:43,380 --> 01:06:47,940 Users will utilize the equipment only after completing, of course, the necessary training. 731 01:06:54,930 --> 01:07:00,910 Here is some imagery from what will be the tech skills and creation lab, which are planned 732 01:07:00,910 --> 01:07:05,030 and seen before in the lower right hand corner. 733 01:07:05,550 --> 01:07:09,850 This is meant to support lifelong learning technology and education. 734 01:07:10,630 --> 01:07:16,210 It will have approximately 14 PCs, a classroom screen and instructor podium. 735 01:07:16,910 --> 01:07:21,970 The creation lab is meant for one to two persons to develop content also, such as podcasting 736 01:07:21,970 --> 01:07:22,830 or video animation. 737 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:36,080 Another cool feature, something that we talked about here tonight, which was important to 738 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:42,500 the community as well as some of the design elements that were brought in is the ability 739 01:07:42,500 --> 01:07:49,120 to connect both the inside with the outside and just off of the children's space there 740 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:55,000 will be an outdoor courtyard that will help bring nature into the library and then children 741 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:55,920 out to nature. 742 01:07:57,500 --> 01:08:00,780 This will be an enclosed and safe space. 743 01:08:00,780 --> 01:08:06,760 The concepts and rendering shown here, this will be an outdoor to expand the functionality 744 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:12,360 and utilization of the children they could do either with their parents or we can also 745 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,700 do some programming in the outside space as well. 746 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:22,900 So it will be a really great addition and a really great use of design that we hope to see 747 01:08:23,500 --> 01:08:24,680 in a future main library. 748 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:25,660 And 749 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:46,700 as mentioned briefly before, this particular slide highlights the community rooms and the library program room as well as the high schools program room and the school districts program room. 750 01:08:46,700 --> 01:08:58,920 The community room will, this will allow the library as well as the recreation department 751 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:06,300 to run classes both during hours and after hours, as well as provide access to the partner 752 01:09:06,300 --> 01:09:15,520 spaces during and after hours as well, of course, with giving the city priority when this 753 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,440 will districts aren't using their spaces. 754 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:27,620 Additionally, as mentioned prior, there's a movable partition that has been incorporated 755 01:09:27,620 --> 01:09:35,020 into the plans for this as a bid alternate for both the community room at the top of the 756 01:09:35,020 --> 01:09:42,940 page, as well as in between the two classrooms to create an even larger space for larger programs. 757 01:09:42,940 --> 01:09:43,780 a 758 01:09:50,690 --> 01:10:19,350 couple of key things coming up here. I just spoke with the project lead for this, for the branch library this morning, and the bids are currently scheduled to be open by the city on the 20th of March, however, they're anticipating some last-minute questions from potential bidders, which they think is kind of part for the course and will probably more than likely push the 759 01:10:19,350 --> 01:10:29,730 final back at least one week, so probably the 27th to the end of March, and then the other 760 01:10:29,730 --> 01:10:34,550 thing that's going on right now, as mentioned earlier, that I wanted to give you an update 761 01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:45,450 on was the artwork is currently we're sitting on 10 applicants or 10 selected artists and to 762 01:10:45,450 --> 01:10:52,270 remind both the Park and Red Commission and the Board of Library Trustees that process 763 01:10:52,270 --> 01:10:59,250 began in August of last year and wrapped up in September, where we had over 70 applicants 764 01:10:59,250 --> 01:11:04,610 apply for both either an indoor or outdoor art element. 765 01:11:05,790 --> 01:11:13,570 The committee was convened of Sunnyvale School District, Fremont Union High School District, 766 01:11:14,370 --> 01:11:20,610 some of the architect team, the public works team, the library and recreation staff. 767 01:11:20,750 --> 01:11:23,910 We had librarians as well as recreation staff. 768 01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:28,830 We had a local resident who's an artist and also a professional in the field and works 769 01:11:28,830 --> 01:11:30,850 for another city in their public art department. 770 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,290 And then we also had a Lakewood Village Association resident. 771 01:11:35,290 --> 01:11:54,470 And so we will be bringing back five exterior and five interior art examples for the arts commission to hear in June, and they will forward on their best, what they would like to see brought to life to council and, and forwarding that on it for July. 772 01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:54,550 Why? 773 01:11:57,070 --> 01:12:11,350 Lastly, based on early estimates, we're hoping that this project comes through, and this, of course, probably won't be the last time we bring any updates to the Board of Library Trustees, but as we sit here today, we're looking at late 2025. 774 01:12:14,370 --> 01:12:18,550 And that ends the presentation for tonight. 775 01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:22,790 Thank you. Do any board members or commissioners have any comments or questions for staff? 776 01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:23,590 Great. 777 01:12:29,870 --> 01:12:44,530 Thank you very much for that update. We're very excited. We can't wait to. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of fun stuff, things that we were talking about for the main library on a smaller scale, but we really great to see those integrated into the new branch. 778 01:12:44,530 --> 01:12:49,490 So if I could just add to what Damon was saying, you know, when Steve retired, obviously 779 01:12:49,490 --> 01:12:56,710 that this was his project and I just want to thank Damon for stepping in as soon as Steve 780 01:12:56,710 --> 01:12:59,110 announced and said, you know, I'll do whatever it takes. 781 01:12:59,110 --> 01:13:04,690 So Damon has really taken this project on and he's becoming an honorary librarian as a 782 01:13:04,690 --> 01:13:04,850 resource. 783 01:13:05,790 --> 01:13:06,010 Welcome. 784 01:13:08,130 --> 01:13:08,530 Thank you. 785 01:13:08,650 --> 01:13:09,350 Thank you, librarian. 786 01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:09,790 Are you Damon? 787 01:13:09,970 --> 01:13:11,190 We appreciate all your work. 788 01:13:14,330 --> 01:13:15,230 We'll continue. 789 01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:16,570 We're waiting for updates. 790 01:13:16,570 --> 01:13:17,170 We're very excited. 791 01:13:17,330 --> 01:13:17,750 Thank you. 792 01:13:18,450 --> 01:13:18,630 Okay. 793 01:13:18,790 --> 01:13:22,350 So then we're moving on to 24-39O study issues update. 794 01:13:23,650 --> 01:13:28,130 So I just want to give everyone a quick overview of how council ranked study issues compared 795 01:13:28,130 --> 01:13:31,530 to how the commissions or board members ranked study issues. 796 01:13:31,770 --> 01:13:35,810 I don't have much in-depth information, but I could give you just a general overview. 797 01:13:35,810 --> 01:13:36,770 So, 798 01:13:39,490 --> 01:13:46,610 as you can see on the screen, the PRC ranked evaluate feasibility of dog off-leash hours 799 01:13:46,610 --> 01:13:51,850 as our number one, Council ranked as number two, so still very high. 800 01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:58,110 Another item we had was evaluate late-night lights at public parks, the Commission ranked 801 01:13:58,110 --> 01:14:06,460 to add number six. Council rate to add number two. I mean, sorry about that. 802 01:14:08,620 --> 01:14:09,060 Council 803 01:14:09,060 --> 01:14:14,040 rate to add number six while we rate to add number two further commission. A few items 804 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:21,500 got deferred such as waste reduction initiative. A value of feasibility of naming parks. A value 805 01:14:21,500 --> 01:14:26,800 of the feasibility of ordinance ban use of gas power. And we also had a few items that 806 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:37,920 were dropped, such as making city owned property at East Evelyn and West Matilda place open and accessible to public, as well as explore the feasibility of planting 2025 new trees. 807 01:14:39,700 --> 01:14:53,900 And we also have one more item, which was promotion of assessment of sustainable landscaping strategies, the recreation commission had it ranked six, but as is a environmental services item is only ranked out of two items, so is ranked number two. 808 01:14:53,900 --> 01:14:59,900 And then for Library Recreations for the Board Trustees, your item was ranked 809 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,060 One with you, and also rate number one with council. 810 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:27,460 And that concludes my presentation. Very short. I just want to give you a quick overview. If you have any questions, we do have the video of the council strategic meeting online. Thank you. Thank you, Ricky. Do any board members or commissioners have any comments or questions for staff? You're kidding. Casting. Casting. Casting. 811 01:15:27,460 --> 01:15:27,720 Okay. 812 01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:29,820 That joke never gets old, by the way. 813 01:15:30,220 --> 01:15:31,300 Yes, and casting one, two, three. 814 01:15:31,580 --> 01:15:32,080 Does this mic on? 815 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:32,680 Yes, it is. 816 01:15:34,020 --> 01:15:35,520 Thank you, Ricky, it's good to see that. 817 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:45,780 It would also be nice to see a ranking of how the department ranked the study issues as 818 01:15:45,780 --> 01:15:45,940 well. 819 01:15:47,860 --> 01:15:55,780 I mean, I was kind of, I was kind of, I wasn't surprised, but it was unfortunate that the 820 01:15:55,780 --> 01:16:02,380 the department ranked so many of the issues that the board, that the commission saw as being 821 01:16:02,380 --> 01:16:12,660 valuable as like the bottom of the list. And to me, you know, when our number one issue, 822 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:18,600 which was unanimous, was viewed as like the, what was it? 823 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:25,960 The ninth, the ninth most important 824 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:30,480 from the department, and our 825 01:16:34,060 --> 01:16:35,520 second, 826 01:16:37,740 --> 01:16:38,400 which was, 827 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,520 a second, there we go, was viewed as the first. 828 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,140 That's awesome, that's great. 829 01:16:51,810 --> 01:17:00,810 It would be great to have like our third was viewed as the seventh most important. 830 01:17:01,890 --> 01:17:08,170 I feel as though there should be more of a lock step between us and the department. 831 01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:14,850 I wonder why that is and why that isn't happening, and it would be great to see a more symbiotic 832 01:17:14,850 --> 01:17:18,530 relationship between the commission and the department. 833 01:17:19,790 --> 01:17:26,110 If I could just respond, I have no way of knowing what some people's has, but what I can say 834 01:17:26,110 --> 01:17:33,650 is when the department's rank study issues, it's based on what they have staff banned 835 01:17:33,650 --> 01:17:36,110 what to do in different areas. 836 01:17:36,410 --> 01:17:43,770 So if they're already working on A, B, and C study issues and the staff that's allocated 837 01:17:43,770 --> 01:17:48,270 to that would then need to take on another set of study issues. 838 01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:55,050 They might rank those lower because the staff are already maxed out what they're working 839 01:17:55,050 --> 01:17:55,290 on. 840 01:17:55,290 --> 01:18:01,990 So, it's probably just a different perspective in terms of the stat- when we rank study issues, 841 01:18:02,210 --> 01:18:07,250 I'm looking at, for instance, when we were looking at the couple for us, well, what's- what's 842 01:18:07,250 --> 01:18:11,130 Damon working on right now? What's Michelle working on right now? What's Garrett working on? 843 01:18:11,490 --> 01:18:17,570 So, that's how we look at it, and so I think that's why it's good to have the department rank it, 844 01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:22,330 the commissions rank it, and the council rank it, and it's going to be somewhere as a melding of the three. 845 01:18:23,570 --> 01:18:26,110 So that's how it comes to light. 846 01:18:26,810 --> 01:18:31,970 So I don't know what obviously Public Works did, but that's how we look at it. 847 01:18:34,030 --> 01:18:39,170 That was the only other thing I was going to add is that where Parks and Rec Commission 848 01:18:39,170 --> 01:18:45,030 is concerned, it's not just being ranked by library and recreation services. 849 01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:53,010 There's some issues that also get ranked based on Public Works and ESD in the case of that 850 01:18:53,010 --> 01:19:00,350 particular one. So there's a there's a few things going at play, so to speak. But yeah, I'm not 851 01:19:00,350 --> 01:19:07,590 here to knock what I'm saying is we're going to be better as an organization, as a commission, 852 01:19:07,790 --> 01:19:15,750 and we'll be better as a department. The more we communicate with each other, the more we can speak 853 01:19:15,750 --> 01:19:20,250 with each other, and through that communication, the more we're going to be able to get done, 854 01:19:20,970 --> 01:19:24,570 and it would be great to help foster that kind of a relationship. 855 01:19:26,810 --> 01:19:31,150 I'll wait until after public comments, because I know this constant calendar is coming out, 856 01:19:31,190 --> 01:19:34,090 so I'd like to talk a little bit more about the wins that we did get. 857 01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:39,110 So I'll wait on that, except it, yeah, I'll wait on that. 858 01:19:39,490 --> 01:19:40,130 Thank you so much. 859 01:19:40,350 --> 01:19:44,570 The clarification, since it's a special meeting, there is no consent calendar for this meeting. 860 01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:57,340 Thank you. 861 01:19:57,900 --> 01:19:59,920 So we'll move into oral communications. 862 01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:04,580 members of the public will now have an opportunity to address the Board Commission on topics 863 01:20:04,580 --> 01:20:06,080 not listed on tonight's agenda. 864 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:10,720 The section is limited to 15 minutes and may be extended or continued after the public 865 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,240 hearings general business section of the agenda. 866 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,520 Individuals are limited to one appearance during our communications. 867 01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:22,220 As stated at the beginning of the meeting, this meeting is considered a limited public forum 868 01:20:22,220 --> 01:20:25,820 and the Board and Commission can regulate the time, place and manner of speech. 869 01:20:25,820 --> 01:20:30,640 Speaker comments during oral communications must be limited to matters within the Board 870 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,620 and Commission's authority to address generally referred to as within the meeting subject 871 01:20:34,620 --> 01:20:35,460 matter jurisdiction. 872 01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:40,500 If a speaker does not speak to a matter within the subject matter jurisdiction, the presiding 873 01:20:40,500 --> 01:20:44,180 officer will rule the speaker out of order to allow the Board and Commission to conduct 874 01:20:44,180 --> 01:20:47,980 its business in a reasonably efficient manner and to protect the rights of other speakers. 875 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,460 The presiding officer will not rule speech out of order because the presiding officer disagrees 876 01:20:52,460 --> 01:20:54,880 disagrees with the content of the Speaker's speech. 877 01:20:55,380 --> 01:20:58,880 A reminder to the public, please submit a speaker card to the recording officer, 878 01:20:59,420 --> 01:21:03,640 raise your digital hand now, or dial star nine on a telephone if you wish to address the board commission. 879 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,300 I will call in members of the public participating in person first, 880 01:21:07,580 --> 01:21:11,100 then the recording officer will ask remote participants to unmute their microphone 881 01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:12,920 when it is their turn to address the board. 882 01:21:13,580 --> 01:21:15,580 Speakers will have three minutes to speak. 883 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,120 Gary, turn now. 884 01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:19,640 Thank you. 885 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:20,600 That 886 01:21:22,900 --> 01:21:25,560 was one of the best pronunciations I've heard of from. 887 01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:27,540 Thank you so much. 888 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:38,800 So, on behalf of this approximately 700 supporters of study issue DPW 2011, dog park hours 889 01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,560 that selects any of those parks, I would like to thank you for your support in ranking 890 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,160 the study issue as the number one priority for parks and rec. 891 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:54,780 My heart took a couple of missteps when I saw the DPW rankings as well the night 892 01:21:54,780 --> 01:22:04,400 before the council meeting and I guess I would just kind of emphasize it's always great 893 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:09,600 when the public has more transparency into all the great work and all the processes that 894 01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,260 you guys do. 895 01:22:10,260 --> 01:22:17,040 So from my perspective, if there were that alignment, it would just help us from a community 896 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,960 have more trust in the city and more insight. 897 01:22:22,860 --> 01:22:29,320 But what occurred at City Hall on the 15th was a great example of how our system works. 898 01:22:29,860 --> 01:22:35,480 Council members acknowledged the overwhelming support of study issue and ranked it as the 899 01:22:35,480 --> 01:22:37,280 number of two priority in DPW. 900 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:45,260 view. We had I think on about or maybe even more 100 letters written by the community 901 01:22:46,190 --> 01:22:51,240 that were sent into the council. So we had a lot of strong support from our community. 902 01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:58,060 The dog owner community is very appreciative, energized and ready to step forward and contribute 903 01:22:58,060 --> 01:23:03,420 to the study issue. We view the effort as a collaboration between the city and dog owner 904 01:23:03,420 --> 01:23:09,060 community and recognize that a good dog owner behavior is a key factor to success. 905 01:23:09,980 --> 01:23:14,840 I want to also state my interest in continuing to be a key contact for the study when it moves 906 01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:22,280 forward and I'd also like to be involved in understanding the PG and Lot study issue 907 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:26,640 when that gets going and how it could be a great place for awfully dog parks as well. 908 01:23:27,900 --> 01:23:28,600 Thank you. 909 01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:36,300 Is anyone else interested in speaking into oral communications before we hear from 910 01:23:36,300 --> 01:23:36,900 remote speakers. 911 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,120 Thank you. I have a recording officer. Do we have any remote participants 912 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:46,320 wishing to speak of the item? None at this time. Thank you. Then I will go ahead and close 913 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:47,280 oral communications. 914 01:23:50,090 --> 01:23:54,430 Moving on to non-agenda items and comments. This portion of the agenda 915 01:23:54,430 --> 01:23:58,810 is for oral reports and announcements by board members or commissioners and or staff to share 916 01:23:58,810 --> 01:24:03,090 information. Do board members or commissioners have any non-agenda items or comments? 917 01:24:06,010 --> 01:24:10,250 Chair Kessie. Thank you so much. Gary, thank you for coming out today. It's really 918 01:24:10,250 --> 01:24:13,550 cool that you guys showed up when you did show up during the meetings. It's really cool 919 01:24:14,010 --> 01:24:19,330 that you came back to say thank you to everybody. It's, it says a lot, man. It's been great 920 01:24:19,330 --> 01:24:23,530 to work with you guys. I do appreciate it. It's cool. I actually got a dog during this entire 921 01:24:23,530 --> 01:24:30,530 process. I didn't expect that to happen, but I'm really happy that I did. I like to just 922 01:24:30,530 --> 01:24:35,610 point out to our commission and to the library commission as well, that the study issue 923 01:24:35,610 --> 01:24:44,130 process brought in $225,000 to the Parks and Recreation Department, right? That's new money, 924 01:24:44,270 --> 01:24:49,770 brand new money, for things that we didn't have your mark beforehand. And I think there are times 925 01:24:49,770 --> 01:24:55,490 when we wonder as a commission what we're doing here, you know, are we getting something done? Are 926 01:24:55,490 --> 01:25:00,310 we actually moving the needle in any direction? And I want to say that we actually are, right? And when 927 01:25:00,310 --> 01:25:05,870 we have these studies usually come out. It's an opportunity for us to work with the public 928 01:25:06,570 --> 01:25:11,470 to come up with a voice for them, for a voice for ourselves, and push those studies 929 01:25:11,470 --> 01:25:18,410 used forward to get funding for cool ideas that could become policy, that could become an impact 930 01:25:18,410 --> 01:25:28,330 to make our community better. Sad that we didn't get access to the bus depot lot, which by the way 931 01:25:28,330 --> 01:25:36,770 is 92,000 square feet of space that is completely underused and I look forward to working on something 932 01:25:36,770 --> 01:25:42,010 new and exciting at that location this coming year. And I would like to recommend everyone on our 933 01:25:42,010 --> 01:25:48,990 commissions to write more study issues, put it out there. It's up to us at the end of the day to 934 01:25:48,990 --> 01:25:55,290 decide whether or not we want to drop it, which we totally can do. But I think just taking a second 935 01:25:55,290 --> 01:25:58,150 and putting it on paper and trying to make the ideas work. 936 01:25:58,230 --> 01:25:58,750 It's a great idea. 937 01:25:59,090 --> 01:25:59,710 Thank you so much. 938 01:26:02,140 --> 01:26:04,040 Any other board members or commissioners? 939 01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:04,540 No. 940 01:26:05,740 --> 01:26:08,160 Disfef any non-agent items or comments? 941 01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:10,340 Okay. 942 01:26:11,540 --> 01:26:13,060 Sorry, actually just one. 943 01:26:13,740 --> 01:26:17,200 Tomorrow night or tomorrow afternoon evening, I should say, 944 01:26:17,500 --> 01:26:20,280 is the job there. 945 01:26:20,740 --> 01:26:25,760 So if you know anyone who is 16 or over looking for a summer 946 01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:33,240 job. We're looking for a lot of good people. So send them by the community center, senior 947 01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:40,540 center in particular, and it will be an opportunity not just to apply for a position, but many 948 01:26:40,540 --> 01:26:46,740 instances also to interview and go through the HR process on the spot. So we are looking 949 01:26:46,740 --> 01:26:49,680 to fill positions tomorrow. So if you know anyone, please send them our way. 950 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:50,680 Thank 951 01:26:53,050 --> 01:27:01,030 you. With that, this meeting is adjourned at 8.34 p.m., and I'd like to thank everyone for your participation in tonight's meeting.