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Let's call to order the city

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commission meeting agenda for

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tuesday august 10th, 2021.

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ms. Bravo call the roll.

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>> mayor ryan.

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>> present.

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>> deputy mayor kerch.

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>> here.

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>> assistant deputy mayor g.

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>> here.

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>> commissioner scuotto.

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>> present.

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(calling roll)

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>> good afternoon again.

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the city commission meeting has

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been noticed in person meeting

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and public meeting.

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sunrise.fl.gov.

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interested persons were invited

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to call in for additional

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information.

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the city has provided various

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options for members of the

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public to address the

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commission.

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prior to the start of the

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meeting we asked if anyone

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wished to speak on any matter

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we have maintained the list and

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will call upon any speakers at

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the appropriate time.

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I will open it up for public

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comment at the appropriate time

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and ask if anyone attending by

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person or telephone wishes to

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speak.

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for those participating by

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telephone press star 5 on the

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phone to request to be heard.

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we will attempt to take comments

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in order as requested.

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all comments will be included as

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part of the public record.

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for this meeting.

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when addressing the city

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commission please state your

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name, address and what you are

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speaking about. I would ask

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everyone on the call to mute

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phones until you wish to speak.

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also please do not place the

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call on hold.

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it could cause unintended

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interruption to the meeting due

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if you experience technical

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difficulties on the call, you

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may call.

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staff is available to assist

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I ask the upped standing of

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everyone given the challenging

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circumstance.

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we had get through this process

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with understanding, patients and

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>> move onto item three.

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moment of silence and pledge of

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allegiance.

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commissioner scuotto to keep in

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our prayers.

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>> yes retired officer jack s.

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who has passed away, keep his

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family in our prayers.

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>> anyone else.

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join me for a moment of silence

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allegiance.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the

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flag of the united states of

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america.

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to the republic for which it

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stands, one nation under god,

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indivisible I believe with

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liberty and justice for all.

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>> we started the whole meeting

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over so you could be here.

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>> come on up, commissioner

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douglas.

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we're on the consent agenda

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items 4a through t.

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second by commissioner scuotto.

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any pulls from colleagues?

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any pulls from staff.

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>> no deputy mayor, no pulls.

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>> let's call the question again

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on items 4a through 4t.

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>> commissioner scuotto.

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>> commissioner douglas.

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>> assistant deputy mayor.

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>> deputy may mayor.

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>> mayor ryan.

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>> items passed 5-0.

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special items.

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proclamation september 9th

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2021 as mental health awareness

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day in the city of sunrise.

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mayor michael j. Ryan.

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>> deputy mayor, if I can one

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area to adhere he may want to

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say a few words before reading

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the proclamation.

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yes we have beth tash on-line.

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>> I'm taking over for beth

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I'm the spokeartment aouy mayor.

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>> state your name and we will

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turn the proceedings over for

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your comments.

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>> -- this year we're trying to

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double the amount in the city of

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sunrise.

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they have been onboard since day

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one.

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I embrace that, this great

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initiative that comes from the,

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the roots of broward county.

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we have hospitals.

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we have the va.

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we have the county.

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we have the cities supporting

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us.

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this year is september 9th,

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2021.

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100% virtual.

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we just made that decision last

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week.

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we are going to operate both

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in-person and virtual.

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because of the situation we are

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facing we want to be safe.

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so, it's free.

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this year, big change from last

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year.

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our sponsors came onboard,

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memorial health and the --

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foundation, ukg and thanks to

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them providing this sreut you'll

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event from 8:30 to 4:00.

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completely free to broward

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county residents and of course

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beyond this.

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is unprecedented.

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we're so proud to do that.

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I want to thank mayor ryan for

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supporting us and helping us

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with the proclamations.

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thank you so much.

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>> mayor ryan, any comments?

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>> thank you, of course this has

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been a collective effort by the

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city commission who has been

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behind this from the beginning

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along with city staff.

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gratitude to my colleagues

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working tirelessly with you over

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many years with you and your

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>> mr. Douglas.

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>> I'm recognized.

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thank you, deputy mayor.

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you know obviously mental health

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awareness is a significant issue

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in our community and broader

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united states.

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so it is important that as a

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city we have proclamations not

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just for show but to increase

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increase in the manifestation of

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mental health issues.

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my personal view is -- I'm not a

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clinician.

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think our brains are so

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overwhelmed by so many things.

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some is congenital, stress

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after the 2018 shooting it

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became more highlighted about

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the impact that untreated and

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unrecognized mental health

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challenges have on our

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community.

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it's there for a long time.

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trying to lift the veil off of,

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you know, mental health

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challenges as I have said in the

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past and commented on the

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alement, a broken arm or leg.

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something that manifests itself

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physically and is visible, your

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neighbors and your friends, who

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ever you interact with,

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generally try to help you.

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is your arm broken.

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can I help you open the door, do

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this, do that.

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people are againly sympathetic.

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because of the stigma.

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help are not given an

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opportunity to help.

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condition that subjects them to

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stigma they may not want to

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disclose this.

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awareness is to lift the stigma

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associated with it.

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>> commissioner scuotto?

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>> deputy mayor.

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as a city of commission I'm glad

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we're all in sync with

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supporting this proclamation.

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give me insight behind the

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scenes with the police

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department how they're handling

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>> chief rosa.

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so, as far as mental health goes

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we're handling it from two

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how we interact with the public

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on a mental health crisis and

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how we handle ourselves if there

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from an over all perspective

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crisis intervention train south

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backbone of everything we do in

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department trained with formal

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crisis training.

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we're well on our way there.

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this is an on going effort by

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we're successful in getting our

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people through the classes.

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everything from inhouse

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certain situations.

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what I mean by that is we have

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had a shift in how we handle

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calls.

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someone is in crisis, life

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threatening and something we may

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look at is endangering life one

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way or another to themselves or

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someone else we have shifted

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from years ago.

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police officers are problem

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selves.

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we want to get it done with and

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move onto the next thing.

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we have gonna way from that.

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now we're handling those where

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we're not forcing a intersection

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with anyone in a mental health

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crisis or having a mental health

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episode.

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I think we have realized.

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a lot is due to the training.

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we have realized we have time.

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we can handle it.

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we're doing things.

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we're talk ing about it.

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we're dehe is ka hating.

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we're approaching this not from

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an aggressive or imposing

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manner.

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a police officer shows up and

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you have a crisis, you're

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instantly creating a situation.

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in some cases it may appear to

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be aggressive to the person.

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we're intentionally not doing

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that.

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we're doing all we can to

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contain the situation.

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doing it in a manner that is con

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dousive to the situation.

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they we're taking to the people.

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I will give you ap example we

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had a person in a crisis with a

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firearm.

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after several hours it was

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resolved peacefully and we got

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the person the help they needed.

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has ben ral terms and this is

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more to it.

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what we're doing as an agency

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and respond to the crisises.

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from a I sternal perspective.

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this has been going on a little

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bit.

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a little slower of a evolution

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in policing and this work.

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there has been a reluck stands,

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historically, to act there is an

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issue.

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I think as we bring new officers

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on and new ideas on the culture

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is changing.

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so we have a program we're

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working on.

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we're starting out looking,

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we're doing a peer monitoring

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type thing.

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including supervisors watching

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for signs of other officers and

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employees in the police

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department under stress and

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getting people help the need.

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to take that a step further

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we're looking at creating a

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program where we're in the

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process now of identifying

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police officers that other other

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officers would be comfortable

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talking to and creating a peer

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support program.

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to do that we, we plan on

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identifying the officers and

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partnering with city mental

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health officials to structure

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this program.

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the officers will do something

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similar to what the fire

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department has with the critical

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incident debriefings and stuff

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like that.

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>> thank you.

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>> thank you.

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>> chief, if I may.

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>> commissioner scuotto.

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>> touching on what you mentiond

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with that.

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I think it's a great idea you

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have a -- I'm sure it's not just

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sunrise but cities across the

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country.

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you mention, that's with

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anybody, when someone feels

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comfortable talking to someone

402
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else that's very important.

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a lot of times people feel they

404
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don't have someone to talk

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about.

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when you talk about something

407
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where the police officers are

408
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confronted by different things

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going on scene, whether it's

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something that has been affected

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them on multiple scenes over the

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years plus family issues they

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could have.

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some could be veterans or

415
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whatever they take to the job.

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I spoke to you about this

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probably a year or so ago.

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that was about having mental

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health people within the

420
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department.

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I'm not looking to add people

422
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but I'm saying when you just

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brought up that if an officer

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feels comfortable talking to a

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peer I don't want it to be that

426
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now these police officers are

427
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handling problems from other

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officers.

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which is good to get them

430
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through what they need to.

431
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but you don't want other

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employees now handling problems

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that they may even.

434
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have now they're taking on more.

435
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I mentioned this to you before

436
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personal.

437
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if we could talk about this

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further, who and what in a

439
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department we can put someone or

440
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multiple people.

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same when covid hit we started

442
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the compassionate hotline where

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people called in, you know, and

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we were retrieving this

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information.

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I think it would be great for

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you guys to start this and have

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your peers retrieving

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information.

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again I don't want police

451
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officers or sergeants,

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lieutenants, handling the burden

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of their own employees that they

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need to -- it's good to know if

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someone -- we have had our fare

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share of people taking th*r own

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lives.

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I don't want that burden on our

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employees.

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I think this needs to be a major

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discussion as what to do as a

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city to help our employees.

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we have well over a thousand

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employees.

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at any given time we can have

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someone affected by something.

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I think it's a good start with

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the peer, but I don't want it to

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be multiple people being

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overwhelmed with issues from

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other people.

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you know, they went to school

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for it, they're a police officer

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that's a psychologist or

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whatever.

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I gist couldn't want it to

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become you know something like

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that.

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>> there are, what I didn't

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mention is part of this over all

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program, this is something the

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sunrise police department does

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haven't dedicated to us, it's a

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research thing.

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other agents do.

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a police chaplin type situation.

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we don't have one dedicated to

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us.

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we have the county and use other

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agencies when we need that.

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that is a part of the program

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we're looking to evaluate.

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>> thank you.

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>> thank you, obviously.

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he brought something up.

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in addition I want to comment on

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what you said.

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in addition I had my own

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thoughts this.

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is hippa.

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you know medical stuff.

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and here is something I think

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this person is a danger or I

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think this is actionable or

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something to report.

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then you have the challenge of

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okay the guy trusts me to talk

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to me.

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he shared this with me, now what

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is my responsibility to break

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confidence.

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so, I think those who are in a,

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for medical position, they would

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have their various professional

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responsibility outlined as to

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when they break these kinds of

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confidential rules.

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I can see the challenge of me

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telling someone something that

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has affected me.

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they don't have a ethical or

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other obligation to keep the

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confidence.

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what if they don't.

525
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then skw-pbtly a investigation

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occurs and they hear he share

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the information with the

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colleague.

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I can see the challenge from

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that perspective.

531
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there is also a challenge,

532
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they're yielding kpwupz.

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I don't think the guy who has a

534
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temporary stress related issue

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relate today divorce or some

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other trauma wants to share it

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and then get, we talked about

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stigma jut now.

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that we should take his gun away

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or send him -- even if paid

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leave, hippa or whatever it is

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that would be cons kw-pbs of

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having disclosed this.

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so, I can see the aoufrbg

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challenge you would face in a

546
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department having people come

547
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out and say I am going through

548
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this.

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even with the challenges I think

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it's important to the extent

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that we do the police are going

552
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through fire fighters showing up

553
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on the scene with all kinds of

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trauma. People in various

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conditions resulting from

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accidents, bullet wounds or what

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not.

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I can't imagine they're not

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affected even temporarily

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showing up to see these things.

561
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I think there is a delicate

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balance to be struck.

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between having someone disclose

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and at the same time refusing to

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address it.

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I commend any efforts that you

567
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can take to address this.

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thank my colleague for bringing

569
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it forward to address it.

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we're talking about mental

571
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health awareness in sunrise.

572
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we have to start at home.

573
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thank you, sir.

574
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>> thank you, sir.

575
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>> thank you, chief.

576
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any comments, chair.

577
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>> yes to the public.

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what you heard is the unanimous

579
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view of raising awareness.

580
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I'm so proud to serve along with

581
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my colleagues.

582
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the passionate and eloquent

583
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words of each of them.

584
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showing that sun vies is tkwhaog

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they can do to lift the vail.

586
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chief, thank you for your

587
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commitment to the training.

588
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it's very important to continue

589
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to invest heavily in that. To

590
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the commissioners, your points

591
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are so well taken regarding the

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first responders.

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00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:17,100
there are programs out there

594
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:20,100
that have become more robust

595
00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:22,100
with virtual therapy and virtual

596
00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:24,100
counseling.

597
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:28,100
I know that the chief and chief

598
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:31,601
rosa in the post ptsd setting.

599
00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:36,100
I hope going forward we can

600
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:37,100
offer these to all employees as

601
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:40,100
a model of support, compassion

602
00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:42,100
and empath.y as commissioner

603
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:44,100
douglas pointed out.

604
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:46,100
commissioner scuotto pointed

605
00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:48,100
out.

606
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:51,601
being a tentative to hippa and

607
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:53,100
privacy.

608
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:55,100
hopefully this is another step

609
00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:56,100
forward for sunrise.

610
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:59,100
I'm proud of my colleagues,

611
00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:00,100
thank you.

612
00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:01,100
>> anyone else?

613
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:03,100
>> thank you for being here.

614
00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:06,100
for those who may want to attend

615
00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:10,201
the virtual event on 9-9-21 from

616
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:14,100
8:30 to 4:00 is this a website?

617
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:16,100
what kind of information do we

618
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,100
need to attend that.

619
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:19,100
>> it's --

620
00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:23,100
[inaudible]

621
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:26,100
broward.mentalhealthsummit.0rg.

622
00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:34,100
it's easy go there and hit the

623
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:36,100
link to take advantage of the

624
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:38,100
four sessions on

625
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:39,100
september 9th.

626
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:40,100
>> thank you.

627
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:41,100
thank you for accepting the

628
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:42,100
proclamation.

629
00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:43,100
I will read that now.

630
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:46,100
broward mental health summit day

631
00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:48,100
where as mental illness affects

632
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:50,100
thoughts, feelings, behaviors

633
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:53,100
and inter action with others and

634
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:56,100
stigma of mental I amness.

635
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:59,100
must be address sod nobody feels

636
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,100
shame in seeking health with

637
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:02,100
treatment.

638
00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:04,100
where as recent tragedies

639
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:06,100
require that our communities

640
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:08,100
engage in meaningful education

641
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:10,100
and discussion to identify the

642
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:12,100
early signs of mental illness in

643
00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:14,100
order to take charge of the

644
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:15,100
situation and reverse it before

645
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:17,100
it gets worst.

646
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:21,100
and where as in addition to the

647
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:23,100
recent tragedies according to

648
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:26,100
the april 2020 data brief of the

649
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:28,100
cdcs national center for

650
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:30,100
health statistic understand in

651
00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:32,100
2018 there were 48,344 recorded

652
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:37,100
suicides in the united states.

653
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:40,601
the annual u.s. Suicide rate

654
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,100
increased 35% between 1999 and

655
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:47,100
2018.

656
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:48,100
where as according to the

657
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:50,100
foundation for suicide

658
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:53,100
prevention on average there are

659
00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:56,100
123 suicides per day in the

660
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:57,100
united states.

661
00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:00,100
and where as in response to the

662
00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:02,100
need of identifying and treating

663
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:05,100
mental illness a grass root

664
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:07,100
effort was upped take not by the

665
00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:09,100
principal mental health

666
00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:11,401
providers in broward county

667
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:13,100
including county, federal

668
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:15,100
government, private sector and

669
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:17,100
non profit organizations to join

670
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:20,601
forces in a historic effort to

671
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:24,100
increase awareness by holding a

672
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:27,100
virtual summit for the public

673
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:30,100
for free.

674
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:32,100
where as the fourth annual

675
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:34,100
prouard mental health summit

676
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,401
titled bouncing back together.

677
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:39,100
wellness, empowerment, resilient

678
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:43,100
and connection is presented by

679
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:45,401
memorial healthcare system, ukg

680
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:49,100
and the sheriff tpoupgs of

681
00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:51,100
broward county bringing together

682
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,100
the leading hath providers in

683
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:55,100
south florida.

684
00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:57,401
from county, federal, private,

685
00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:00,100
non profit and academia to

686
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:02,100
discuss the current issues

687
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:04,100
affecting all populations.

688
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:07,100
where as erin wanting to learn

689
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:09,100
about the mental health issues

690
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:10,100
facing our communities.

691
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:12,100
whether you're a healthcare

692
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,100
provider, first responder,

693
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:15,100
community leader, business

694
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:18,100
leader, elected official or a

695
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:20,100
concerned resident you will walk

696
00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:23,100
away from the historic broward

697
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:26,100
mental health summit with

698
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:28,401
concrete data, information tools

699
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,100
for those tpaebgted by mental

700
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:33,100
health issues.

701
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:36,100
and where as we hope the general

702
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:38,100
public understands it's affects

703
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:41,100
on the residents and businesses

704
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,100
in the city of sunrise.

705
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:45,100
the city of sunrise remains

706
00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:48,401
aware of combating stigma.

707
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:54,100
there I on be half of michael j.

708
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:57,100
ryan the mayor of the city of

709
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:59,100
sunrise, florida, with the city

710
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:01,100
commission proclaim

711
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:03,401
september 9th, 2021 as broward

712
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:06,100
mental health summit day in the

713
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:07,100
city of sunrise.

714
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:10,601
thank you, mr. Ayres for being

715
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:16,100
here.

716
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:17,100
we will make sure the

717
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:18,100
proclamation is isn't to you.

718
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,100
>> thank you.

719
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:25,100
>> let's move onto city items

720
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:27,100
6a.

721
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,100
appointment.

722
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:32,100
resolution of the city of

723
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:34,100
sunrise, florida, a pointing a

724
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:36,100
member to the unsafe structures

725
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:38,401
board, and providing an

726
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:40,100
effective date.

727
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:43,601
city manager mark l., fell ish

728
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:46,100
ya bravo, city.

729
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:48,100
clerk.

730
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:49,100
>> moved.

731
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:50,100
>> seconded.

732
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:52,100
>> commissioner scuotto and

733
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:54,100
commissioner douglas.

734
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:56,100
>> we have a vacant see.

735
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:57,100
>> yes, for property manager on

736
00:29:57,100 --> 00:30:00,100
the unsafe structure board for

737
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:01,100
quite some time.

738
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,100
we were fortunate enough to get

739
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,401
an application from martha

740
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,100
welling ton.

741
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:12,100
>> a motion.

742
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:13,100
>> a second.

743
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:15,100
>> a motion and a second.

744
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,100
any further discussion?

745
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:27,100
>> alright.

746
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:28,100
call the vote.

747
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:29,100
department utility mayor.

748
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:30,100
>> yes.

749
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:32,100
>> commissioner s.

750
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:35,100
>> yes,.

751
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:36,100
>> commissioner d.

752
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:37,100
>> yes,.

753
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:38,100
>> assistant deputy mayor.

754
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:39,100
>> yes,.

755
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:40,100
>> mayor ryan.

756
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:41,100
>> yes.

757
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,100
>> any motion to move up the

758
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:44,100
public hearings.

759
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:45,100
>> go ahead move it.

760
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:47,100
>> motion by commissioner

761
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:51,100
scuotto.

762
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:53,100
second I by assistant deputy

763
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:54,100
mayor.

764
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:56,100
12a.

765
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:58,100
amendment.

766
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:00,100
commission discussion and/or

767
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:03,100
action refirst reading of an

768
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:05,100
ordinance of the city of

769
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:07,100
sunrise, florida, extending

770
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:14,401
section 2 of ordinance number

771
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:18,100
654 as amended through

772
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:21,100
november 16th, 2021 and

773
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:22,100
functioning as the ninth

774
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:24,100
extension and sunrise

775
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:26,100
emergency --

776
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:27,100
>> move it.

777
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:29,100
>> motion by commissioner

778
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,100
scuotto.

779
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:32,100
>> second.

780
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:34,401
>> second by assistant deputy

781
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:36,100
mayor.

782
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:38,100
discussion among colleagues.

783
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:39,100
>> I have a comment, question.

784
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:42,100
>> floor is yours, mr. Douglas.

785
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:45,100
>> mr. Lebowski, in the past

786
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:50,601
when we have made amendments to

787
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:54,601
this ordinance it was for --

788
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:57,401
increments, is that correct?

789
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:00,100
>> roughly 60 day increments.

790
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:06,100
>> 60 days ?

791
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:07,100
>> roughly.

792
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,100
>> right now we're at although

793
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:11,100
september, october.

794
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:12,100
we are going into november.

795
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:14,100
is there a particular reason

796
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:16,100
we're --

797
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,100
>> second reading of this

798
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:20,100
wouldn't occur until the second

799
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:21,100
meeting in september the 13th

800
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:23,100
which would be right around 60

801
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:24,100
days.

802
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:25,100
>> the 14th.

803
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,100
>> the previous amendment is in

804
00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:28,100
effect?

805
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:30,100
>> yes, correct.

806
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:31,100
>> okay.

807
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:33,100
that's all.

808
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:39,100
>> any other comments on this

809
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,100
one?

810
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:43,100
>> no.

811
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:44,100
>> mayor ryan.

812
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:48,100
>> as a reminder we need to open

813
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:49,100
up for a public hearing.

814
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:50,100
>> thank you.

815
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:53,100
>> I will open up the public

816
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:54,100
hearing.

817
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,100
anyone wishing to speak please

818
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:57,100
step forward.

819
00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:00,100
>> no one in the public stepping

820
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:01,100
forward.

821
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:02,100
anyone on the phone wishing to

822
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:05,100
make any comments please hit the

823
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,100
5 star feature.

824
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,100
>> I have no one from the public

825
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:11,100
asking to speak.

826
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:12,100
>> alright.

827
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:15,100
I will close public hearing.

828
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:18,100
>> any comments, rare ryan, on

829
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:19,100
this one?

830
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:20,100
>> no, sir.

831
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:21,100
thank you.

832
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:22,100
>> call the question.

833
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:23,100
>> assistant department utility

834
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:24,100
mayor.

835
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:25,100
>> yes.

836
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:26,100
>> deputy mayor.

837
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:27,100
>> yes.

838
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:29,100
>> commissioner scuotto.

839
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:30,100
>> yes.

840
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:31,100
>> commissioner douglas.

841
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:32,100
>> yes.

842
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:33,100
>> mayor ryan.

843
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:34,100
>> yes.

844
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:37,601
>> the item passes 5-0 I skipped

845
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:39,100
over open discussion.

846
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,100
I would like to go back.

847
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:43,100
I know a couple are on the phone

848
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:44,100
scienced up for that. Is it

849
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:45,100
okay.

850
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:47,100
>> motion to open up 7.

851
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:48,100
>> second.

852
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:50,100
>> motion to open up 7,

853
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:51,100
seconded.

854
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:52,100
all in favor say I.

855
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:53,100
>> I.

856
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:54,100
>> open discussion we have first

857
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:58,201
one on the sheet is paula c.

858
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:01,100
come on up.

859
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,100
>> go ahead and state your name,

860
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:10,100
address please.

861
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:12,100
>> my name is paula c.

862
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:15,100
I live on northwest 101st

863
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:16,100
avenue.

864
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:18,100
I feel like jack nicholson

865
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:19,100
saying I'm back.

866
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:20,100
I won't.

867
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:22,100
>> if you don't mind speaking

868
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:24,100
directly into the microphone.

869
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:28,100
we don't hear so well up here.

870
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:30,401
>> you missed the punchline.

871
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:33,100
I appreciate mental health

872
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:35,100
awareness day.

873
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:36,100
I am a teacher.

874
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:38,100
I'm a teacher of 15 years I

875
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:40,100
taught emotionally behaved

876
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:43,100
disturbed kids.

877
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:47,100
I know the need and I teach ese

878
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:48,100
students in general.

879
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:49,100
I appreciate that.

880
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:51,401
I am here simply.

881
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:54,100
I heard unsafe structures.

882
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:57,100
I am here because we do have a

883
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:59,100
continuing issue with that wall.

884
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:02,100
I'm sorry with our fences on nob

885
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:03,100
hill.

886
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:06,100
again a few weeks ago a car went

887
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:07,100
through.

888
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:09,100
those people were lucky because

889
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:13,100
they have -- in the back yard.

890
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:15,100
it didn't go into their pool.

891
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:18,100
my next door neighbor johnson

892
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:21,401
salis, they have children.

893
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:25,100
the car went through their back

894
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:26,100
yard last year.

895
00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:28,100
last year?

896
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:31,100
last year sometime, there is so

897
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:33,100
much too, my goodness so.

898
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:35,100
to address with this.

899
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:37,100
I appreciate definitely

900
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:39,100
appreciate assistant deputy for

901
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:41,100
your dedication to helping us

902
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:43,100
solve this issue.

903
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:44,100
>> yes.

904
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:45,100
>> sean from the city did a

905
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:47,100
wonderful job explaining to me

906
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:50,100
the costs that would be incurred

907
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:54,100
through trying to put a wall up.

908
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:57,100
but as I mentioned I am an ese

909
00:35:57,100 --> 00:35:58,100
teacher.

910
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:01,100
I teach 72 children a day how to

911
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:02,100
read.

912
00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:03,100
everyone gets taught a different

913
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,100
way.

914
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:05,100
I know there are other solutions

915
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:06,100
to this.

916
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:07,100
I know something can get done.

917
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:10,100
I am hoping that we can possibly

918
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:12,100
talk about a guard rail.

919
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,100
then again I don't want to be

920
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:14,100
the only one on the street that

921
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,601
says let's put a guard rail.

922
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:20,100
can we consider also large

923
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:21,100
trees.

924
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:23,100
beautiful landscape.

925
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:26,100
like we all know when we drive

926
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:27,100
down nob hill towards

927
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:29,401
plantation, the landscaping is

928
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:31,100
gorgeous.

929
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:34,100
that area we live in near josh

930
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:36,100
lee is just, it lacks safety,

931
00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:38,100
most of all.

932
00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:41,100
it could be addressed with

933
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:43,401
beauty, large trees, beautiful

934
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:46,100
maybe fox tail around it.

935
00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:48,100
just something to disguise those

936
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:52,100
guard rails that I would like to

937
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:56,100
see get put up to protect us

938
00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,100
from any tragedy.

939
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:02,100
god forbid a car goes through

940
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:03,100
the fence and our neighbors are

941
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:04,100
entertaining.

942
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:07,100
we have a much bigger issue.

943
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:08,100
>> I want to recap.

944
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:10,100
if that's okay.

945
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:12,100
july 31st last year this was

946
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:14,100
brought to the commission.

947
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:15,100
it was requested to get

948
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:16,100
information.

949
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:19,100
back ground on putting a wall.

950
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:22,601
mark lubelski, I don't know if

951
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:27,100
you want to address that.

952
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,100
thank you for being here and

953
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:30,100
advocating.

954
00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:31,100
>> thank you.

955
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:32,100
I have been here, I have lived

956
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:34,100
on that street over 25 years.

957
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:38,201
I have seen my kids get garbage

958
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:43,100
thrown over the fence and get

959
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:45,100
hit in the head with a coke can.

960
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:47,100
I'm sure you don't want us to

961
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:48,100
live through this.

962
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:50,100
>> no, there has been on going

963
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:51,100
discussion.

964
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:52,100
I believe there are utility

965
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:53,100
issues related to that issue.

966
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:56,601
I think mr. Lubelski can address

967
00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:00,100
concerns and a proposal going

968
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:02,100
forward for the city commission.

969
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:04,100
>> thank you, department utility

970
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:05,100
mayor.

971
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:06,100
over the past 15 years city

972
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:08,401
staff has periodically evaluated

973
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:12,100
a wall at this location.

974
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:14,100
previously determined

975
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:18,100
utilities -- high voltage lines,

976
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:26,401
comcast and school structures

977
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:29,100
have to be relocated this.

978
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:32,100
is a minimum of $1.125 million.

979
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:34,100
the over all cost of the project

980
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,100
would exceed over $2 million for

981
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:39,100
860 feet of linear feet of wall.

982
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:42,100
in addition the high voltage

983
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:44,100
lines need to be relocated to

984
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:46,100
the east side of nob hill road

985
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:49,100
and prohibit a wall installation

986
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:52,100
on the east side of nob hill.

987
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:55,100
based upon the high costs

988
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,100
associated I recommend the

989
00:38:57,100 --> 00:39:00,100
installation of a guard rail

990
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:02,401
with landscaping as referenced

991
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:06,100
by the resident in the swale

992
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:08,100
along the roadway.

993
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:10,100
we have had conversations with

994
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:11,100
the resident and reached out to

995
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:13,100
the -- association.

996
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:17,100
based on those discussions we

997
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:20,100
have support for the insurance

998
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:22,100
installation and landscaping on

999
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:23,100
that corridor.

1000
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:24,100
that's what staff is

1001
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,100
recommending at this point.

1002
00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:28,100
>> mr. Douglas.

1003
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:29,100
>> with respect to the comment

1004
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:31,100
by the resident regarding the

1005
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:33,100
nature of the landscape.

1006
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:35,100
large trees, beautiful trees.

1007
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:36,100
would the utility issues that

1008
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:38,100
currently exist which are cost

1009
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:41,100
prohibited to move also impact

1010
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:47,601
our ability to put large trees

1011
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:49,100
in the space?

1012
00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:50,100
>> that's a good question.

1013
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,100
so the utility issues are

1014
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:54,100
primarily behind the sidewalk in

1015
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:56,401
the residents back yard.

1016
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:59,100
the swale is relatively clear.

1017
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:01,401
however, there are guidelines

1018
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:04,100
and requirements we have to

1019
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:06,100
satisfy for landscaping.

1020
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:08,100
I'm confident we will fit

1021
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:10,100
landscaping in there to buffer

1022
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:13,100
the guard rail and provide

1023
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:14,100
beautification.

1024
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:16,100
to the extent.

1025
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:20,100
size of the trees --

1026
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:24,100
>> there is a qualitative

1027
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:26,100
difference between one landscape

1028
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:27,100
and the other.

1029
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:29,100
I want, I don't want an

1030
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:32,100
expectation to be created in

1031
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:35,601
terms of the nature of the

1032
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,100
landscape.

1033
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:40,100
I know for bet are or worst we

1034
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:43,601
fit trees no space that's are

1035
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:46,100
not appropriate.

1036
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:49,100
a beautiful oak and then it's a

1037
00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:51,100
30-year-old oak and it's not

1038
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:53,100
appropriate for the location.

1039
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:55,100
so you know landscaping can be a

1040
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:56,100
shrub.

1041
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:58,100
it can be oak.

1042
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:01,100
I mean, I think the expectation

1043
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:05,201
would be a full tree like what

1044
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:09,100
is neighboring.

1045
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:12,100
maybe they had adequate set

1046
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:13,100
backs at the time they were

1047
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:15,100
planted and utilities were, you

1048
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:17,100
know -- I want to make sure when

1049
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:19,100
we say landscaping are we

1050
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:22,100
talking about you know alexander

1051
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:26,100
palms or oaks or --

1052
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:27,100
>> that's a good question.

1053
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:30,601
so when staff looked at this.

1054
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:37,100
we didn't get g. Into in depth

1055
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:39,100
design we talked about shrubs

1056
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:41,100
and palm trao*es as mentioned

1057
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:43,100
whether they're fox tails or

1058
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:45,100
mont tkpwopl raoez or something

1059
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:46,100
to that affect.

1060
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:48,100
we need to look at it's really

1061
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:50,100
the setback from the roadway of

1062
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,100
how close you can put trees.

1063
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:54,100
that would be our vision to do

1064
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:57,601
pockets of palm trees with a,

1065
00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:00,100
with shrubs along that.

1066
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:02,100
>> the alexander doesn't stop

1067
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,100
much of a car.

1068
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:06,100
I presume large fox tales.

1069
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:08,100
>> knot purpose --

1070
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:09,100
>> it's suppose to be

1071
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:11,100
supplemental and the trees would

1072
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:13,100
provide supplemental safety if

1073
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:16,100
someone was to get, you know,

1074
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:17,100
run off the road.

1075
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:19,100
>> the primary purpose of the

1076
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:21,401
landscaping is to add

1077
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:24,401
beautification, the guard rail

1078
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:26,100
provides the safety as

1079
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:28,100
referenced there.

1080
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:31,100
>> I.

1081
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:33,100
>> deputy mayor, have a caller

1082
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:34,100
with their hand raised.

1083
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:36,100
>> we will get to them when

1084
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:38,100
commissioner scuotto finishes.

1085
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:44,100
>> so mr -- comes to us for

1086
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:45,100
coaching.

1087
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:46,100
I went to high school with him

1088
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:48,100
like 35 years ago.

1089
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:51,100
this issue of, I'm saying your

1090
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:54,100
neighborhood has been coming up

1091
00:42:55,100 --> 00:42:57,100
here more than the 15 years that

1092
00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:58,100
mark said.

1093
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:00,100
the answer always was the

1094
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:01,100
utility and stuff.

1095
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:04,100
I think staff has come up with

1096
00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:06,100
something that is very

1097
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:07,100
substantial.

1098
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:10,100
we have done this in other

1099
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:11,100
communities.

1100
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:13,100
we did this, the guard rail

1101
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:15,100
around a park.

1102
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:17,100
that was inside the

1103
00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:18,100
neighborhood.

1104
00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:19,100
I think the guard rail we did it

1105
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:22,601
for sac the community at sac

1106
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:24,100
field.

1107
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:27,100
we did the wood barricade.

1108
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:29,100
this one I don't know if we

1109
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:32,100
could do wood or metal.

1110
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:34,100
we want something nice.

1111
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:35,100
regarding plantation.

1112
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:36,100
plantation doesn't have anything

1113
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:38,100
on the swale.

1114
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:41,100
this is something the city of

1115
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:43,100
sunrise would do to protect on

1116
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:44,100
the swale side.

1117
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:47,100
we can't go on the opposite side

1118
00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:48,100
of the sidewalk.

1119
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:50,100
what commissioner douglas said

1120
00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:52,100
about the rooting and all of

1121
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:55,100
that. Leave that to staff to --

1122
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:57,100
I think the guard rail is the

1123
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:58,100
safety I just called mark the

1124
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:01,100
other day, before the weekend, I

1125
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:03,100
said you're getting a call from

1126
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:04,100
them again.

1127
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:06,100
someone hit the little fence and

1128
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:08,100
the comcast thing.

1129
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:11,100
I said it's not all the way

1130
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:12,100
through.

1131
00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:13,100
they hit it again.

1132
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:16,100
so staff, you guys know what it

1133
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:19,100
is that you can put on that, it

1134
00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:21,100
is a lie trafficked road.

1135
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:22,100
we understand that.

1136
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:24,100
it's also in front of a school.

1137
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:27,100
we're limited on the swale part.

1138
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:29,100
where you get close to the

1139
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:30,100
boulevard.

1140
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:31,100
there is the enough.

1141
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:33,100
there is no irrigation to put in

1142
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:34,100
there.

1143
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:37,601
when you come to joshly there

1144
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:39,100
isn't much.

1145
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:41,100
on the swale side it's not

1146
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:43,100
something we normally do.

1147
00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:46,100
besides sac and what we did for

1148
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:49,100
wellby we are now encroaching on

1149
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:51,100
the swale side to protect

1150
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:52,100
something.

1151
00:44:52,100 --> 00:44:53,100
they will come up with something

1152
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:54,100
nice.

1153
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:56,100
the oaks and stuff like, that I

1154
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:59,100
think that will be more of a

1155
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:00,100
problem going into the

1156
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:01,100
electrical and stuff.

1157
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:04,100
some of these big palms, just

1158
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,100
for you know, landscape purpose.

1159
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:09,100
then again.

1160
00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:12,100
we don't want to do hedges in

1161
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,100
front of the whole guard rail.

1162
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:15,401
then we constantly replace.

1163
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:17,100
then, right.

1164
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:21,100
I'm sure staff will get to you.

1165
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:23,100
show you renderings.

1166
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:25,100
the safety first is the guard

1167
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:26,100
rail.

1168
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:28,100
I don't care if it's palm trees.

1169
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:30,100
if we can't the guard rail you

1170
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:32,100
need that first.

1171
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:34,100
if we get trees in there that's

1172
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:35,100
helpful.

1173
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:37,100
I don't want to replace hedges

1174
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:38,100
bays people are constantly

1175
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:41,601
ripping them out too. Then it's

1176
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:44,100
an eye sore and a headache to

1177
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:45,100
us.

1178
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:46,100
then about irrigation.

1179
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:50,201
I'm sure they want to plan like

1180
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:54,100
a zero scape or whatever it is

1181
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:56,100
where we don't have to put in

1182
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:58,100
irrigation and cut the road and

1183
00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:00,100
tie it somewhere.

1184
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:02,100
I'm sure it will be helpful to

1185
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:05,100
you and it will be mainly the

1186
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:08,100
safety that the neighbor needs.

1187
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:15,100
except guy across from you, he

1188
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:17,100
built his own wall.

1189
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:19,100
>> can I come up one more time.

1190
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:20,100
>> sure.

1191
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:21,100
>> I have ad yaz.

1192
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:22,100
we drive through the county and

1193
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:23,100
see great stuff.

1194
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:25,100
I can take pictures this.

1195
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:27,100
are things to help cover up the

1196
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:28,100
guard rail.

1197
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:31,100
most of all it, it may be

1198
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:32,100
pricey.

1199
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:34,100
you know our lives are worth it.

1200
00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:36,100
our health values.

1201
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:40,201
we're in the nicest part of the

1202
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:44,100
street and we take care of the

1203
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:45,100
homes.

1204
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:46,100
the back of the fences are so

1205
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:48,100
unsightly.

1206
00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:50,100
the weeds under it.

1207
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,100
they expect us to come around

1208
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:54,100
with our weed whackers and come

1209
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:55,100
around.

1210
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:58,100
look at the stretch, hr-ts pack

1211
00:46:58,100 --> 00:46:59,100
up our stuff on the road to go

1212
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:01,100
to nob hill and take the weeds

1213
00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:03,100
from under the fence away.

1214
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:05,100
pressure clean the fence.

1215
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:06,100
typically that's our

1216
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:08,100
responsibility.

1217
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:11,100
we're in an awkward spot.

1218
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:13,100
we're a great neighborhood.

1219
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:14,100
great people in the

1220
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:16,100
neighborhood.

1221
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:19,100
we take good care of our homes.

1222
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:21,100
if the city can recognize it's a

1223
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:22,100
win win.

1224
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:23,100
I appreciate everything you did

1225
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:25,100
to look into this.

1226
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:27,100
it's me bugging you guys for 25

1227
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:28,100
years.

1228
00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:30,100
>> I want to thank you for

1229
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:31,100
coming out here.

1230
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:32,100
I don't know if your neighbors

1231
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:35,601
value who are you to them.

1232
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:39,100
we're grateful for your input

1233
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:42,100
and putting the whip to* us to

1234
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:43,100
get a solution.

1235
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:44,100
I want to commend you.

1236
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:46,100
we like our residents to

1237
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:47,100
participate.

1238
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:49,100
we don't always get it right.

1239
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:51,100
when people come forward and let

1240
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:53,100
us know what the problems are

1241
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:55,100
and continue to focus on it here

1242
00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:58,601
is where the -- the squeaky

1243
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:01,100
wheel gets the grease.

1244
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:03,100
>> yes.

1245
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:04,100
>> there you go.

1246
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:06,100
>> my father owned the three

1247
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:07,100
properties before nob hill was

1248
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:08,100
nob hill.

1249
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:10,100
we naturally bought it and built

1250
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:12,100
on it it's our home.

1251
00:48:12,100 --> 00:48:13,100
we're not going anywhere.

1252
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:15,100
don't make me come back in a

1253
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:18,100
couple of years and say I'm back

1254
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:19,100
again.

1255
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:22,100
>> we do a lot with wellby.

1256
00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:24,100
we have saved them hundreds of

1257
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:26,100
thousands of dollars over the

1258
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:28,100
years taking over their land

1259
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:29,100
skaeufplt.

1260
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:30,100
>> did you a beautiful job.

1261
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:31,100
I love it.

1262
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:33,100
>> that's prompted me to say

1263
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:35,100
let's do that to our area.

1264
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:37,100
>> now we're asking to use their

1265
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:39,100
property for art in public

1266
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:40,100
places.

1267
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:41,100
when he need the squeaky wheel

1268
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:42,100
we will call you.

1269
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:44,100
>> yes, yes.

1270
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:45,100
we wrote with chalk on the back

1271
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:47,100
of the fence, thank you to the

1272
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:48,100
fire fight erdz and such for

1273
00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:49,100
covid-19.

1274
00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:51,100
>> thank you for listening to

1275
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:52,100
me.

1276
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:53,100
>> thank you.

1277
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:54,100
>> thank you.

1278
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:55,100
>> thank you.

1279
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:57,100
>> tory, someone had their hand

1280
00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:58,100
up on the phone.

1281
00:48:58,100 --> 00:48:59,100
>> no, they disconnected from

1282
00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:01,100
the call.

1283
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:04,100
>> okay.

1284
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:07,100
>> let us know in they come

1285
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:08,100
back.

1286
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:09,100
>> yes.

1287
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:10,100
let us know if they come back.

1288
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:12,100
mr. City manager is there a

1289
00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:15,100
timeline on when you propose

1290
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:18,401
installation proposed guard rail

1291
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:22,100
or landscape will or a timeline

1292
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:23,100
to share with the public?

1293
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:26,100
>> certainly we haven't put pen

1294
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:28,100
to paper on a timeline.

1295
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:31,100
we hoped to design the project

1296
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:34,100
in house to save time.

1297
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:39,100
we have a contract in place for

1298
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:42,100
a guard rail and we can utilize

1299
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:44,100
that. Instead of a wall this is

1300
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:45,100
months to get this done.

1301
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:48,100
>> with the budget coming up is

1302
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:49,100
this something to get in this

1303
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:50,100
year?

1304
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:52,100
>> 36 months, 48 months.

1305
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:57,100
>> I will get with budget and

1306
00:49:57,100 --> 00:49:59,100
see if we can find the funds.

1307
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:01,100
if we need additional dollars we

1308
00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:03,100
will come back and ask the

1309
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:04,100
commission.

1310
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:05,100
>> mayor ryan, any comments?

1311
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:07,100
>> no.

1312
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:11,100
>> anyone else.

1313
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:12,100
>> no.

1314
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:13,100
>> thank you for being here.

1315
00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:15,100
city staff and everyone here is

1316
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:17,100
hoping to get this resolved.

1317
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:19,100
I know since I have been up here

1318
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:21,100
it's been a issue.

1319
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:23,100
I really want to see it get

1320
00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:24,100
resolved.

1321
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:26,100
I'm glad to see staff has come

1322
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:28,100
up with a proposed solution.

1323
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:31,100
>> when it's installed call me

1324
00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:35,201
so I can see it first hand.

1325
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:38,100
>> I will have a party.

1326
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:41,100
>> next is jonathan salis on the

1327
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:44,100
phone in regards to the wall I'm

1328
00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:46,100
assuming.

1329
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:48,100
is he available?

1330
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:53,100
if he can raise his hand I would

1331
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:55,100
be happy to identify him.

1332
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:57,100
pressing 5 star.

1333
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:03,100
press 5 star please.

1334
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:09,100
>> I don't see anyone.

1335
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:12,100
>> gentleman in the green shirt.

1336
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:13,100
come on up.

1337
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:16,601
I will get you next, ma'am.

1338
00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:24,100
>> if you can state your name

1339
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:25,100
and address.

1340
00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:27,100
>> bryce goldberg.

1341
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:29,100
I'm at 101st avenue.

1342
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:31,100
it was my house hit.

1343
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:32,100
>> sorry to hear that.

1344
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,100
>> I just, thank you for taking

1345
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:36,100
this seriously.

1346
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:38,100
yes we do appreciate paula

1347
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:39,100
leaning on this.

1348
00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:41,100
my only question is for the city

1349
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:42,100
manager.

1350
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:43,100
I know you looked into the wall

1351
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:45,100
and moving the wires.

1352
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:47,100
all of the wires are several

1353
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:50,100
feet behind the existing fence.

1354
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:52,100
I'm just not understanding why,

1355
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:55,100
if we move the tents and replace

1356
00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:56,100
it with a wall that shouldn't

1357
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:58,100
affect the wires behind the

1358
00:51:58,100 --> 00:51:59,100
wall.

1359
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:02,601
we have asked about digging up.

1360
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:10,100
they come through the front

1361
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:11,100
there.

1362
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:12,100
is no access through the front.

1363
00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:13,100
I don't understand.

1364
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:15,100
I don't know if you have looked

1365
00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:16,100
into it.

1366
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:17,100
if you just replace what is

1367
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:18,100
there with a wall.

1368
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:21,100
the wires underneath would be

1369
00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:24,100
accessed the same why.

1370
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:27,100
why is that a hinderance for the

1371
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:28,100
woeurz to be moved up.

1372
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:30,100
I understand that's the issue

1373
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:31,100
for cost.

1374
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:34,100
>> installing the wall is not

1375
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:35,100
just above grouped.

1376
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:37,100
it's a below ground foundation

1377
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:39,100
that's installed with the wall.

1378
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:40,100
it's not just above grouped what

1379
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:41,100
you see.

1380
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:43,100
there are cylinders that are

1381
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:45,100
several feet in width.

1382
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,100
the starting of that sill eupder

1383
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:48,100
is the back of the sidewalk

1384
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:51,601
going back several feet on top

1385
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:54,100
of that we have to have approval

1386
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:55,100
of the utilities.

1387
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:57,100
they won't approve a wall in

1388
00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:58,100
that location.

1389
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:00,100
it's a utility easement.

1390
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:02,100
>> I just want to make sure you

1391
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:04,100
look into it the guard rail with

1392
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:06,100
the trees sounds viable.

1393
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:07,100
thank you, guys.

1394
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:08,100
>> thank you.

1395
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:10,100
>>

1396
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:13,100
>> come on up.

1397
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:18,401
>> I'm going in order.

1398
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:21,100
are you martha?

1399
00:53:21,100 --> 00:53:23,401
>> martha, come on down.

1400
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:33,100
[inaudible]

1401
00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:35,100
>> you are here.

1402
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:36,100
that's what is most important.

1403
00:53:36,100 --> 00:53:38,100
>> exactly.

1404
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:39,100
can you state your name and

1405
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:40,100
address, ma'am.

1406
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:42,100
>> my name is market that.

1407
00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:44,401
my last name is.

1408
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:47,100
I live 2971 northwest 110

1409
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:51,100
avenue, sun rides, florida.

1410
00:53:51,100 --> 00:53:53,100
33322.

1411
00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:55,100
>> welcome.

1412
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:03,100
go ahead.

1413
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:06,100
>> we had an association called

1414
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:07,100
mvp.

1415
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:09,100
they ran the association for two

1416
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:11,100
years.

1417
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:16,100
they on june 6th of this year

1418
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:18,100
they run out with our money.

1419
00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:21,100
they presented to us $6000 that

1420
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:24,100
we do have.

1421
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:27,601
when we contact the bank we

1422
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:31,100
found $1400 with a reserve of

1423
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:32,100
ten dollars.

1424
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:34,100
in other words they took out our

1425
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:35,100
money.

1426
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:37,100
we did a police case.

1427
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:40,100
we did city of sunrise.

1428
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:45,100
we put a -- with the state of

1429
00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:46,100
florida.

1430
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:47,100
I did the complaint with the

1431
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:48,100
better business bureau.

1432
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:50,100
nothing has been done.

1433
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:53,100
I know the city of sunrise is a

1434
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:54,100
compassionate city.

1435
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:58,100
I am coming over here to get

1436
00:54:58,100 --> 00:55:01,100
your advice, to get your help.

1437
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:02,100
>> todd: see what you can do for

1438
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:03,100
us.

1439
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:05,401
the alliance property managers

1440
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:11,601
now per our -- refers to

1441
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:15,100
mr. Alliance property management

1442
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:17,100
to run our hoa.

1443
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:20,100
they assess 800, I mean for

1444
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:26,100
august $500.

1445
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:28,100
for september another $500.

1446
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:34,100
on top of the 125 association

1447
00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:36,100
fee.

1448
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:40,801
as far as try to put money to

1449
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:45,100
runt business of our hoa.

1450
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:48,100
as far as the board of

1451
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:49,100
directors.

1452
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:51,401
they don't want us.

1453
00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:56,100
we are 75 houses.

1454
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:01,100
home owners signed up for a new

1455
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:02,100
board of director.

1456
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:04,100
like myself they're suppose to

1457
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:06,100
request every three months for

1458
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:08,100
the balance of the bank.

1459
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:10,100
how the association was.

1460
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:12,401
they never requested it.

1461
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:21,100
we tried to get a new board of

1462
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:22,100
directors.

1463
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:23,100
it was stated that can not be.

1464
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:26,100
we condition have a meeting.

1465
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:29,100
to get a new board of director.

1466
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:30,100
we don't know what to do.

1467
00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:33,100
we just, we don't have no idea.

1468
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:36,601
we tried to consult a real

1469
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:39,100
estate lawyer.

1470
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:41,100
very expensive.

1471
00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:43,100
very very expensive.

1472
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:47,201
we have holes in the street, our

1473
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:55,100
pool is closed.

1474
00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:57,100
they increased two, three years

1475
00:56:57,100 --> 00:56:58,100
ago.

1476
00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:01,601
my mvp from $95 to $125 to text

1477
00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:05,100
up the pool.

1478
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:07,100
to fix up the holes, the pot

1479
00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:09,401
holes on the street.

1480
00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:12,100
to trim our streets.

1481
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:14,401
nothing has been done.

1482
00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:22,100
as far as we know the is still

1483
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:24,100
in business ripping other

1484
00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:25,100
associations.

1485
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:27,100
it's not fair.

1486
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:29,100
for us to be paying and someone

1487
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:31,100
takes off with the moppy and are

1488
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:33,401
still doing business someplace

1489
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:35,100
else.

1490
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:36,100
>> I understand.

1491
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:38,100
>> like the city, you guys, the

1492
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:40,100
city of sunrise we would like

1493
00:57:40,100 --> 00:57:41,100
you to help us out.

1494
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:43,401
his name is mario.

1495
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:46,100
he's the owner of my mvp.

1496
00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:48,401
he's doing business someplace

1497
00:57:49,100 --> 00:57:50,100
else.

1498
00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:54,100
it's not fare for us to leave us

1499
00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:56,100
with ten dollars.

1500
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:58,401
he presented we of $61,000.

1501
00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:04,100
we contacted the bank.

1502
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:07,100
they told us it was.

1503
00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:11,100
the reserve was ten dollars.

1504
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:14,100
we don't know what to do.

1505
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:18,100
I went office they told me they

1506
00:58:18,100 --> 00:58:19,100
can't do.

1507
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:21,401
I spoke to anna.

1508
00:58:22,100 --> 00:58:24,100
she told me there is nothing she

1509
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:27,601
can do because we don't --

1510
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:31,100
condos.

1511
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:32,100
because we're a development.

1512
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:35,100
it's nothing she can do with us.

1513
00:58:35,100 --> 00:58:37,100
>> let me ask the chief of

1514
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:39,100
police to come up and give us a

1515
00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:40,100
little update.

1516
00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:41,100
okay.

1517
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:43,100
he's coming up behind you.

1518
00:58:43,100 --> 00:58:44,100
>> repeat that again.

1519
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:46,100
>> I am asking the chief of

1520
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:47,100
police come up.

1521
00:58:47,100 --> 00:58:49,100
>> the case number four the

1522
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:51,401
police department was this

1523
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:53,100
report.

1524
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:54,100
2106.

1525
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:56,100
this is the --

1526
00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:57,100
>> okay.

1527
00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:58,100
>> thank you, very much.

1528
00:58:58,100 --> 00:58:59,100
>> no problem.

1529
00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:00,100
commissioner I don't know the

1530
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:03,100
defails of a investigation we

1531
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:04,100
have going on.

1532
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:06,100
what I would like to do is talk

1533
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:10,201
to you in the hallway with major

1534
00:59:13,100 --> 00:59:14,100
sweat.

1535
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:16,100
we will look into the criminal

1536
00:59:16,100 --> 00:59:19,100
in sref gauges and other items.

1537
00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:21,100
>> any assistance?

1538
00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:24,100
>> from my perspective there is

1539
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:26,100
limited resources from city

1540
00:59:26,100 --> 00:59:27,100
this.

1541
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:29,100
appears to be mostly a private

1542
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:30,100
matter.

1543
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:31,100
>> you concur.

1544
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:32,100
>> yes I do concur.

1545
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:34,100
>> there use to be an

1546
00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:36,100
association --

1547
00:59:36,100 --> 00:59:37,100
>> my apologies.

1548
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:39,100
>> deputy --

1549
00:59:40,100 --> 00:59:42,100
>> good everything.

1550
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:44,100
[inaudible]

1551
00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:47,601
>> I do agree with what mark

1552
00:59:48,100 --> 00:59:49,100
said.

1553
00:59:49,100 --> 00:59:50,100
sorry.

1554
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:51,100
>> I have been involved in

1555
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:52,100
condos there.

1556
00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:54,100
is a lot of people that have

1557
00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:55,100
these challenges.

1558
00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:57,100
we condition start opening that

1559
00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:59,100
door.

1560
01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:01,100
they're private organizations

1561
01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:03,100
and what not.

1562
01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:04,100
I think we should leave the

1563
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:06,100
police investigation look into

1564
01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:08,100
it.

1565
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:09,100
>> yes.

1566
01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:12,100
>> we received an e-mail this

1567
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:13,100
past week.

1568
01:00:13,100 --> 01:00:14,100
tory, I believe was on top of

1569
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:15,100
this.

1570
01:00:15,100 --> 01:00:18,100
so, I want to speak with chief

1571
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:20,100
rose a if you can provide, I

1572
01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:23,100
think he has your contact

1573
01:00:23,100 --> 01:00:24,100
information.

1574
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:25,100
will he contact you to give you

1575
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:27,000
information on the hoa to take

1576
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,100
over.

1577
01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:29,100
the state rep to get involved.

1578
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:32,100
we can't as stated but we can

1579
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:35,100
provide resources as to who can.

1580
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:37,100
>> thank you, for me the problem

1581
01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:41,201
is that this company keep on --

1582
01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:46,100
nor me, my perspective.

1583
01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:48,100
think those people, that company

1584
01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:50,100
keep doing what they doing on

1585
01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:53,100
and on because nobody does

1586
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:56,100
anything.

1587
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:57,100
they open business with another

1588
01:00:57,100 --> 01:00:58,100
name.

1589
01:00:58,100 --> 01:00:59,100
the same company.

1590
01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:03,201
as far as with know the company

1591
01:01:04,100 --> 01:01:06,100
is running and doing business as

1592
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:08,100
another associate.

1593
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:09,100
thank you, very much.

1594
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:11,100
I really appreciate it.

1595
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:12,100
>> before you go.

1596
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:15,100
I think commissioner scuotto had

1597
01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:16,100
something to say.

1598
01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:19,100
>> there was a condo association

1599
01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:24,100
that took place once a month at

1600
01:01:24,100 --> 01:01:25,100
phase one.

1601
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:26,100
think it's ran by the county.

1602
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:28,100
they would be the ones that

1603
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:31,100
helped all of the individual

1604
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:34,100
associations with the rules and

1605
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:35,100
by laws and all of the different

1606
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:36,100
things.

1607
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:38,100
they had representatives

1608
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:40,100
representing in tallahassee.

1609
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:42,100
I think it's a county thing.

1610
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:45,100
I can't remember what the

1611
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:48,100
organization was.

1612
01:01:48,100 --> 01:01:50,100
I know they met every month at

1613
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:52,100
phase one in the club house.

1614
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:56,100
it was all of these lawyers and

1615
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:58,100
entities from the hoas that

1616
01:01:58,100 --> 01:02:00,100
would meet.

1617
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:02,100
I think it was through the

1618
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:03,100
county.

1619
01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:05,100
maybe the area agency on aging.

1620
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:07,100
one of the ladies that worked

1621
01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:09,100
there ran it.

1622
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:12,100
I can maybe try to find out

1623
01:02:12,100 --> 01:02:13,100
tomorrow.

1624
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:15,100
>> as you may -- as you may

1625
01:02:15,100 --> 01:02:16,100
imagine, ma'am.

1626
01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:17,100
I will allow to you comment.

1627
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:20,100
I wanted to say because I do get

1628
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:23,100
those calls in my capacity as

1629
01:02:23,100 --> 01:02:24,100
city commissioner, all the time.

1630
01:02:24,100 --> 01:02:26,100
people are having challenges

1631
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:28,100
with management company.

1632
01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:30,100
people feel like they're being

1633
01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:33,100
taken advantage of by their

1634
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:35,100
boards.

1635
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:38,100
we as a city still have limits

1636
01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:41,100
to what we can do as a

1637
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:42,100
government.

1638
01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:44,100
each of the condo associations.

1639
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:46,100
we have quite a few here in the

1640
01:02:46,100 --> 01:02:47,100
city based on how it was

1641
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:48,100
developed initially.

1642
01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:50,100
they're private corporation.

1643
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:01,100
if you have a management company

1644
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:04,100
that stole money it's no

1645
01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:10,100
different than a public stealing

1646
01:03:10,100 --> 01:03:12,100
upony.

1647
01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:14,100
to the extent of a criminal

1648
01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:15,100
case.

1649
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:18,100
>> it's a criminal matter in

1650
01:03:18,100 --> 01:03:19,100
here.

1651
01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:20,100
I believe that company still

1652
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:21,100
doing business.

1653
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:23,401
>> right. Obviously the chief

1654
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:27,100
will look into it.

1655
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:29,100
if there is a issue there to be

1656
01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:30,100
addressed.

1657
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:31,100
as city commissioners.

1658
01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:33,100
this is the rule of law that we

1659
01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:34,100
a bide by.

1660
01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:37,100
we try to* not to get involved

1661
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:40,100
if the operational and issues

1662
01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:42,100
where police are concerned.

1663
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:45,100
>> if they investigate and they

1664
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:46,100
believe there is basis for

1665
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:49,100
criminal charges they will press

1666
01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:50,100
forward with that.

1667
01:03:50,100 --> 01:03:52,100
we stay away from getting into

1668
01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:53,100
individual cases.

1669
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:56,100
we deal with policy of how the

1670
01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:58,100
police department operates in

1671
01:03:58,100 --> 01:03:59,100
the community.

1672
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:01,100
we don't want to comment too

1673
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:02,100
much on details of a particular

1674
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:03,100
case.

1675
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:05,100
I'm sure if it's there they will

1676
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:06,100
find out.

1677
01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:08,100
>> thank you very much.

1678
01:04:08,100 --> 01:04:11,100
as far as the -- when I went

1679
01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:15,201
to -- they told me nobody can

1680
01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:20,100
help us out by a real estate

1681
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:21,100
lawyer.

1682
01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:25,100
but I can speak with the city of

1683
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:27,100
sunrise to see if something can

1684
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:29,100
be done.

1685
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:32,100
>> sometimes things that are

1686
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:34,401
criminal are also civil.

1687
01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:37,100
maybe a real estate lawyer would

1688
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:40,100
help you recoup the money in a

1689
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:42,100
civil proceeding or help you

1690
01:04:42,100 --> 01:04:45,100
organize yourself to be legally

1691
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:46,100
effective.

1692
01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:48,100
there could be a criminal

1693
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:50,100
element to it

1694
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:52,100
again I'm sure we have some of

1695
01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:54,100
the best investigators around.

1696
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:57,100
they will find out if there is a

1697
01:04:57,100 --> 01:05:00,100
criminal charge there to be

1698
01:05:00,100 --> 01:05:01,100
brought.

1699
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:02,100
>> okay.

1700
01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:03,100
thank you, very much.

1701
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:05,100
>> mayor ryan.

1702
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:07,100
anything?

1703
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:08,100
>> nothing further.

1704
01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:09,100
>> thank you.

1705
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:11,100
>> thank you, ma'am.

1706
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:15,100
thank you for coming up.

1707
01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:17,100
>> thank you.

1708
01:05:19,100 --> 01:05:20,100
>> have a good evening.

1709
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:22,100
anyone else wishing to speak on

1710
01:05:22,100 --> 01:05:24,100
a matter during open discussion

1711
01:05:24,100 --> 01:05:25,100
in the audience?

1712
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:28,100
tory, anyone on the phone,

1713
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:29,100
wanting to speak in open

1714
01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:31,100
discussion?

1715
01:05:31,100 --> 01:05:33,401
>> no hands are raised.

1716
01:05:34,100 --> 01:05:35,100
>> alright.

1717
01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:36,100
I will close open discussion.

1718
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:38,100
>> mr. Hill was on the line.

1719
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:39,100
he to go.

1720
01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:41,100
I will discuss that in my

1721
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:42,100
commission report.

1722
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:43,100
>> who?

1723
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:44,100
>> mr. Hill.

1724
01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:47,100
I think lordes informed you.

1725
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:48,100
it's okay.

1726
01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:49,100
>> I'm sorry.

1727
01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:51,100
>> he had to hang up.

1728
01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:54,100
>> let's go back to 12b.

1729
01:06:09,100 --> 01:06:11,100
is that alright with my

1730
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:12,100
colleagues.

1731
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:13,100
12b.

1732
01:06:13,100 --> 01:06:15,100
>> yes, 12b.

1733
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:17,100
>> I will read it.

1734
01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:18,100
>> transfer of property.

1735
01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:20,100
commission discussion and/or

1736
01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:22,100
action regarding first reading

1737
01:06:22,100 --> 01:06:24,100
of an ordinance of the city of

1738
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:26,401
sunrise, florida, approving an

1739
01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:30,100
agreement for sale and purchase

1740
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:32,100
between the city of sunrise and

1741
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:35,601
new urban sunset strip, llc, for

1742
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:38,100
city property generally

1743
01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:40,100
described as a portion of tracts

1744
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:43,100
25 and 26 in the northwest one

1745
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:45,401
quarter of section 35, township

1746
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:49,401
49, south, range 41 east, of

1747
01:06:51,100 --> 01:06:53,401
florida fruit lands company

1748
01:06:55,100 --> 01:06:57,100
subdivision number one, as

1749
01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:00,100
recorded in plat book 2, page

1750
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:03,100
17, of the public records of

1751
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:06,601
dade county, florida -- I will

1752
01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:12,201
allow mr. Lubelski to give us a

1753
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:15,100
quick introduction on this

1754
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:16,100
matter.

1755
01:07:16,100 --> 01:07:17,100
move.

1756
01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:18,100
>> move it.

1757
01:07:18,100 --> 01:07:19,100
>> second.

1758
01:07:19,100 --> 01:07:20,100
>> moved and seconded.

1759
01:07:20,100 --> 01:07:22,401
>> thank you, deputy mayor.

1760
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:25,100
on october 13th, 2020, the

1761
01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:27,100
city commission authorized the

1762
01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:30,100
city manager to tender officers

1763
01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:33,100
and counter officers in writing

1764
01:07:33,100 --> 01:07:35,100
concerning the property.

1765
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:38,601
providing the sale is not less

1766
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:41,100
than the property appraised

1767
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:42,100
values.

1768
01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:45,100
urban communities with a strong

1769
01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:48,100
reputation in south florida is

1770
01:07:48,100 --> 01:07:50,401
successful developer of urban

1771
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:52,100
projects.

1772
01:07:52,100 --> 01:07:54,100
they're proposing a residential

1773
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:57,100
development with -- rear loaded

1774
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:02,401
garages and offered front

1775
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:04,100
porches.

1776
01:08:04,100 --> 01:08:08,100
at least three of the homes are

1777
01:08:08,100 --> 01:08:09,100
live work units.

1778
01:08:09,100 --> 01:08:12,100
the pros project satisfy the

1779
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:16,100
vision of the master plan

1780
01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:18,100
compatible with the sir oupbding

1781
01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:19,100
neighborhood.

1782
01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:20,100
the kpheugts previously

1783
01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:22,100
requested the agreement include

1784
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:25,100
a call back or conclusion.

1785
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:32,100
staff has provided similar

1786
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:33,100
protections for the city and the

1787
01:08:33,100 --> 01:08:35,100
attached agreement includes the

1788
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:37,100
following safeguards.

1789
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:39,100
establishes the closing will

1790
01:08:39,100 --> 01:08:42,100
take place with all land use in

1791
01:08:42,100 --> 01:08:44,100
place and three homes are ready

1792
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:46,100
for issuance this.

1793
01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:49,100
insures once the closing occurs

1794
01:08:52,100 --> 01:08:54,100
construction commences shortly

1795
01:08:54,100 --> 01:08:55,100
after closing.

1796
01:08:55,100 --> 01:08:57,100
the buyer to obtain a loan

1797
01:08:57,100 --> 01:08:59,100
commitment letter for financing

1798
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:02,100
of the property purchases, site

1799
01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:03,100
cost and vertical construction

1800
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:04,100
costs.

1801
01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:06,100
this provides reasonable

1802
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:08,100
assurance the buyer has

1803
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:09,100
appropriate finance for the

1804
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:10,100
project.

1805
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:12,100
at agreement requires in the

1806
01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:14,100
event a buyer fail to close the

1807
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:17,100
loan within 60 days, the seller

1808
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:20,100
can purchase the property from

1809
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:22,100
the buyer in the khur pace

1810
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:23,100
price.

1811
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:25,100
this provides a call back

1812
01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:28,100
provision if there is not a call

1813
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:30,100
back within 60 days.

1814
01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:32,100
once the loan is closed the

1815
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:34,100
construction will commence

1816
01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:38,100
shortly after with her mits and

1817
01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:39,100
financing.

1818
01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:42,601
there is an ex hebt of

1819
01:09:43,100 --> 01:09:46,100
provisions for a detailed over

1820
01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:47,100
view of the project.

1821
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:49,100
a development agreement with

1822
01:09:49,100 --> 01:09:52,100
insure to be developed with the

1823
01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:53,100
city's provision.

1824
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:55,401
a sales price of $500,000

1825
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:58,401
includes affordable housing on

1826
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:01,100
90% of the units this.

1827
01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:03,100
is in line with an updated

1828
01:10:03,100 --> 01:10:05,100
appraisal scenario.

1829
01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:10,201
the project is to be the first

1830
01:10:11,100 --> 01:10:14,100
in many years, intended to

1831
01:10:14,100 --> 01:10:15,100
create significant interest in

1832
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:18,100
the marketplace due to playing

1833
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:20,100
concepts and kwaugt of pros

1834
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:21,100
development.

1835
01:10:21,100 --> 01:10:23,100
tim hernandez is here today.

1836
01:10:23,100 --> 01:10:25,100
I would like to bring him up to

1837
01:10:25,100 --> 01:10:27,100
introduce himself and answer any

1838
01:10:27,100 --> 01:10:28,100
questions that the commission

1839
01:10:28,100 --> 01:10:32,201
may have for him or for staff.

1840
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:35,401
>> good everything mr. Manis.

1841
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:40,100
>> good I'm I'm tim hernandez

1842
01:10:40,100 --> 01:10:43,100
with my record kevin record next

1843
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:44,100
to the back row, with me.

1844
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:47,601
new urban has been in business

1845
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:50,100
for about 22 years.

1846
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:52,100
we have done a lost

1847
01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:53,100
redevelopment projects

1848
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:55,100
throughout south florida.

1849
01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:57,100
notably pwroeuard county.

1850
01:10:58,100 --> 01:11:01,100
mira bella off palm avenue.

1851
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:06,100
we did two develops bel isle and

1852
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:08,401
currently building a development

1853
01:11:09,100 --> 01:11:11,100
wilt manors.

1854
01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:15,100
we have done a couple in ft.

1855
01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:18,100
lauderdale, victoria park on the

1856
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:20,401
old bank atlantic corporate

1857
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:24,100
site.

1858
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:26,100
we are currently developing

1859
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:29,100
pompano beach fishing village at

1860
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:31,100
the pier.

1861
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:33,100
that's just broward.

1862
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:35,100
number of projects in delray

1863
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:36,100
beach.

1864
01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:38,100
our fifth project in delray

1865
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:39,100
beach is beginning.

1866
01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:42,100
we have four in jupiter.

1867
01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:43,100
we like to find communities we

1868
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:45,100
can understand the market in and

1869
01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:46,100
work together with the staff and

1870
01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:49,100
continue to do more developments

1871
01:11:49,100 --> 01:11:50,100
within the communities.

1872
01:11:50,100 --> 01:11:53,100
so as mark indicated we focused

1873
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:55,100
on infield redevelopment

1874
01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:57,100
projects.

1875
01:11:58,100 --> 01:12:01,601
-- big cookie cutter home style

1876
01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:03,100
types.

1877
01:12:03,100 --> 01:12:04,100
we look to develop something

1878
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:06,100
that is compatible with

1879
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:08,100
surrounding neighborhood.

1880
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:11,100
hopefully help curve as a

1881
01:12:14,100 --> 01:12:16,100
catalyst for further development

1882
01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:17,100
in those areas.

1883
01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:18,100
think that's our track record

1884
01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:20,100
through our history.

1885
01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:22,100
we spend a lost time and effort

1886
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:24,100
on design, architecture design

1887
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:27,100
and our site planning, try to

1888
01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:29,401
create unique and attractive

1889
01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:36,100
settings for our residents to

1890
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:37,100
live.

1891
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:38,100
we are local, we live here.

1892
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:40,100
we want to come back to our

1893
01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:41,100
communities and see they're

1894
01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:42,100
better overtime.

1895
01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:45,100
that they have made the

1896
01:12:45,100 --> 01:12:47,100
communities we build in better

1897
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:48,100
overtime.

1898
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:49,100
we work very hard the last year

1899
01:12:49,100 --> 01:12:52,100
plus with your staff, mark

1900
01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:56,100
particularly to create something

1901
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:58,100
that is consistent with east

1902
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:00,100
sunrise plan that you guys had

1903
01:13:00,100 --> 01:13:02,401
adopted, compatible with the

1904
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:06,100
surrounding community.

1905
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:07,100
we're excited about this

1906
01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:08,100
development.

1907
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:12,201
I mean it's, you read about how,

1908
01:13:13,100 --> 01:13:16,100
you know sales prices have gone

1909
01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:17,100
up here.

1910
01:13:17,100 --> 01:13:19,100
to be able to deliver at work

1911
01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:20,100
force housing development in

1912
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:22,100
this neighborhood is important.

1913
01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:23,100
it's a challenge.

1914
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:25,100
it takes everyone working

1915
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:26,100
together to be able to do that.

1916
01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:28,401
construction costs have sky

1917
01:13:30,100 --> 01:13:31,100
rocketed over the last year.

1918
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:33,100
it's unbelievable.

1919
01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:36,100
so it takes etch working

1920
01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:37,100
together to get this done.

1921
01:13:37,100 --> 01:13:39,100
I think we have done that.

1922
01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:42,100
>> thank you, my colleagues may

1923
01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:43,100
have questions for you.

1924
01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:45,100
>> commissioner scuotto.

1925
01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:49,100
>> yes, you said pompano beach.

1926
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:51,100
that's all commercial pretty

1927
01:13:51,100 --> 01:13:52,100
much?

1928
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:54,100
>> I yes that is all commercial.

1929
01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:57,100
we do multi family, rental

1930
01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:59,100
developments, for sale town

1931
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:02,100
homes and single family detached

1932
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:03,100
housing and commercial.

1933
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:06,100
and some mixed use with

1934
01:14:06,100 --> 01:14:08,100
residential and residential in

1935
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:10,100
the development.

1936
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:12,100
>> the up with you're doing with

1937
01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:14,100
us is just residential.

1938
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:16,100
>> a 00 percent.

1939
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:18,401
28 single family detached homes.

1940
01:14:19,100 --> 01:14:21,100
like the one we did in ft.

1941
01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:23,401
lauderdale that was 30 single

1942
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:26,100
family detached homes.

1943
01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:28,100
>> -- cypress street.

1944
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:35,100
>> no near the old gateway

1945
01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:36,100
theater.

1946
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:38,100
>> the high rise one.

1947
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:41,100
>> no two story detached homes.

1948
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:42,100
30 homes.

1949
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:43,100
they built for us.

1950
01:14:43,100 --> 01:14:45,100
we had nothing to do with it

1951
01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:48,100
they built a bbt branch bank.

1952
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:51,100
they tore down the six story big

1953
01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:53,401
atlantic historic corporate head

1954
01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:55,100
courters.

1955
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:57,100
put a branch bank in front.

1956
01:14:57,100 --> 01:14:59,100
in the back part there was

1957
01:14:59,100 --> 01:15:02,100
about, similar size, a little

1958
01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:04,100
less than three acres and we put

1959
01:15:04,100 --> 01:15:05,100
the homes on.

1960
01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:07,100
those homes were much more

1961
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:09,100
expensive because of the

1962
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:11,401
neighborhood surrounding it but

1963
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:13,100
it was similar.

1964
01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:15,100
detached homes on small lots.

1965
01:15:15,100 --> 01:15:18,100
>> so, I mean the tame frame you

1966
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:20,100
feel you can do this in.

1967
01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:23,601
if we approve this tonight what

1968
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:26,100
is the time frame you would

1969
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:28,100
begin -- you mention now about

1970
01:15:28,100 --> 01:15:29,100
the cost.

1971
01:15:29,100 --> 01:15:32,100
yet we bought the prompt for

1972
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:33,100
900,000.

1973
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:35,100
we're giving it to you for

1974
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:36,100
500,000.

1975
01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:37,100
that's a cost savings to you

1976
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:38,100
there.

1977
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:39,100
>> it is.

1978
01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:40,100
I wish I could of start two

1979
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:41,100
years ago.

1980
01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:43,100
it would of been a better deal

1981
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:44,100
for us.

1982
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:45,100
to be honest with you.

1983
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:49,100
in terms of timing it was up to

1984
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:50,100
us.

1985
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:53,100
we like, we have a site plan.

1986
01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:54,100
we turn the site plan, we get

1987
01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:55,100
approval.

1988
01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:58,100
we have to go through the

1989
01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:00,100
development review process.

1990
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:02,100
unfortunately it's not platted.

1991
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:04,100
we have to go through the

1992
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:06,401
counting platting process too.

1993
01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:18,100
>> how long with l. That take?

1994
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:20,100
>> probably a year.

1995
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:22,100
we will do the platting

1996
01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:23,100
simultaneous.

1997
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:26,100
>> when the county approves the

1998
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:30,100
plat we're ready to roll.

1999
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:31,100
we will start construction

2000
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:34,100
relatively speaking in about a

2001
01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:36,100
year or . So it depends highway

2002
01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:37,100
fast we sell.

2003
01:16:37,100 --> 01:16:39,100
think we will sell.

2004
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:41,100
we're limited in the price we

2005
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:42,100
can sell for.

2006
01:16:42,100 --> 01:16:44,100
I think we will sell fast.

2007
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:47,100
the 28 homes should be built in

2008
01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:48,100
a period not more than two

2009
01:16:48,100 --> 01:16:49,100
years.

2010
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:52,100
three years from today, okay.

2011
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:54,100
>> three years from today you

2012
01:16:54,100 --> 01:16:56,100
feel you will have a completed

2013
01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:57,100
project.

2014
01:16:57,100 --> 01:16:58,100
>> yes.

2015
01:16:58,100 --> 01:17:02,201
I would like to think it could

2016
01:17:03,100 --> 01:17:05,100
go fatter but this is a quality

2017
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:06,100
development.

2018
01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:07,100
land development.

2019
01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:08,100
sewer, water, drainage.

2020
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:10,100
go through the permit.

2021
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:11,100
permit through county

2022
01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:13,100
environmental department as

2023
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:15,100
well.

2024
01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:16,100
>> I just wanted to get the time

2025
01:17:16,100 --> 01:17:17,100
frame.

2026
01:17:17,100 --> 01:17:18,100
this is something we started

2027
01:17:18,100 --> 01:17:22,100
this east side, this was to be

2028
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:25,100
one of our first things.

2029
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:27,100
>> I know.

2030
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:30,100
when you first authorized the

2031
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:32,100
agreement you said you wanted it

2032
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:34,100
done as fast as humanly

2033
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:35,100
possible.

2034
01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:36,100
I echoed that.

2035
01:17:36,100 --> 01:17:38,100
>> I want to make sure the fries

2036
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:39,100
price of construction won't

2037
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:42,100
scare you to delay the project

2038
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:44,100
and wait.

2039
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:48,100
>> no, we're not scared by it.

2040
01:17:48,100 --> 01:17:50,100
we perform.

2041
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:52,100
kevin is the general contractor.

2042
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:55,100
we don't have to go out and find

2043
01:17:55,100 --> 01:17:57,100
a contract tore do this, okay.

2044
01:17:57,100 --> 01:17:59,100
however prices will continue to

2045
01:17:59,100 --> 01:18:00,100
rise a bit.

2046
01:18:00,100 --> 01:18:01,100
the way this works is we have

2047
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:04,100
to, we agreed to sell the homes

2048
01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:07,100
to people making less than 140%

2049
01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:09,100
of the medium income.

2050
01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:12,100
presumably that price inches up

2051
01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:14,100
a little bit each year too.

2052
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:16,100
that hopefully covers the cost

2053
01:18:16,100 --> 01:18:17,100
of construction.

2054
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:18,100
it hasn't frankly in the last

2055
01:18:18,100 --> 01:18:19,100
couple of years.

2056
01:18:19,100 --> 01:18:21,100
the cost of labor.

2057
01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:23,401
the cost of materials,

2058
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:27,401
commodities have increased much

2059
01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:29,100
more.

2060
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:31,401
it's ray cyclical industry.

2061
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:35,100
things go up, flatten and go

2062
01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:36,100
down.

2063
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:37,100
we believe in the market,

2064
01:18:37,100 --> 01:18:39,100
neighborhood and believe we can

2065
01:18:39,100 --> 01:18:40,100
make it work.

2066
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:41,100
>> thank you.

2067
01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:44,100
>> thank you, sir, for coming

2068
01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:45,100
here today.

2069
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:48,100
we have formulas here we're

2070
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:52,100
using to determine the

2071
01:18:52,100 --> 01:18:54,100
affordable housing component.

2072
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:57,100
what is this average salary?

2073
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:10,100
>> it's adjusted by family size.

2074
01:19:10,100 --> 01:19:12,100
>> a family of four.

2075
01:19:12,100 --> 01:19:14,100
>> a family of four, I don't

2076
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:16,100
have that, I didn't bring that

2077
01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:18,100
chart up with me.

2078
01:19:18,100 --> 01:19:19,100
>> staff, do you know.

2079
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:21,100
>> I can look it up if you need

2080
01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:22,100
me too.

2081
01:19:22,100 --> 01:19:23,100
I think generally what you will

2082
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:26,100
find is it's probably these days

2083
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:28,100
in broward count.y I think the

2084
01:19:28,100 --> 01:19:31,100
median income in broward county

2085
01:19:31,100 --> 01:19:33,401
is in the 60s.

2086
01:19:37,100 --> 01:19:39,100
>> I wouldn't want you to

2087
01:19:39,100 --> 01:19:40,100
speculate.

2088
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:43,100
I hear we will have -- they

2089
01:19:43,100 --> 01:19:44,100
sound good.

2090
01:19:44,100 --> 01:19:45,100
I love the project.

2091
01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:47,100
I want to make sure the fine

2092
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:49,401
details are worked out.

2093
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:53,100
>> so, if -- based op what I'm

2094
01:19:53,100 --> 01:19:55,401
hearing three bedroom, three

2095
01:19:56,100 --> 01:19:59,100
bedroom, two and a half bath,

2096
01:19:59,100 --> 01:20:01,100
single family, one-two car

2097
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:02,100
garage.

2098
01:20:02,100 --> 01:20:04,100
15002018000 square feet.

2099
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:07,100
I want to make sure someone can

2100
01:20:07,100 --> 01:20:10,100
afford it making the ami.

2101
01:20:12,100 --> 01:20:14,100
I want to know the pro equity

2102
01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:15,100
judged numbers.

2103
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:18,100
>> sure I can pull up my power

2104
01:20:18,100 --> 01:20:19,100
point.

2105
01:20:19,100 --> 01:20:20,100
it's approximately,

2106
01:20:20,100 --> 01:20:22,100
approximately, a median income

2107
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:24,100
of broward county for a family

2108
01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:26,100
of four, a hundred percent is

2109
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:28,401
around 65,000 more or less.

2110
01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:33,100
>> deputy mayor, I have pulled

2111
01:20:33,100 --> 01:20:34,100
this up.

2112
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:37,601
for 80% category for a family of

2113
01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:40,100
four it's 70,400.

2114
01:20:41,100 --> 01:20:43,401
for -- it's 105 income.

2115
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:48,100
then it gets adjusted up or down

2116
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:50,100
depending on the household size.

2117
01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:52,100
>> for 08% category.

2118
01:20:57,100 --> 01:20:58,100
>> yes.

2119
01:20:58,100 --> 01:20:59,100
>> what about a hundred.

2120
01:20:59,100 --> 01:21:02,100
>> the next category I see here

2121
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:03,100
is 120.

2122
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:05,100
that's 105,000.

2123
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:08,100
>> okay that is another, the

2124
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:10,100
range between 100 and

2125
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:12,100
140 percent.

2126
01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:13,100
>> yes.

2127
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:15,100
to clarify for this project we

2128
01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:18,100
have 25 of the homes between 80

2129
01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:23,100
and 100 percent.

2130
01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:26,401
-- then another 40% between

2131
01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:29,100
100-140.

2132
01:21:29,100 --> 01:21:32,100
>> so seven and seven will be

2133
01:21:32,100 --> 01:21:34,100
deed restricted for 30 years.

2134
01:21:34,100 --> 01:21:36,100
another 24 will be deed

2135
01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:39,100
restricted in the same 100-140

2136
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:45,100
for ten years.

2137
01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:48,100
ten percent won't be deed

2138
01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:55,100
restricted.

2139
01:21:55,100 --> 01:21:58,100
hen ten, ten percent is 2.8.

2140
01:21:59,100 --> 01:22:01,100
how much do these sell for, sir?

2141
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:03,100
>> they will sell for around

2142
01:22:03,100 --> 01:22:05,100
$400,000.

2143
01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:06,100
>> about 400.

2144
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:08,100
>> about.

2145
01:22:10,100 --> 01:22:11,100
by the time they're up for sale

2146
01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:13,100
it will be a little movement in

2147
01:22:13,100 --> 01:22:15,100
that number.

2148
01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:19,100
it will be based on that table

2149
01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:21,100
that --

2150
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:24,601
>> if you were to use today's

2151
01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:28,100
interest rate.

2152
01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:29,100
go for 3.5%.

2153
01:22:29,100 --> 01:22:31,100
how much is the mortgage on a

2154
01:22:31,100 --> 01:22:33,100
home for 400,000?

2155
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:35,100
>> okay.

2156
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:38,100
well if you bought, paid

2157
01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:42,100
$400,000 for the house, use that

2158
01:22:42,100 --> 01:22:43,100
number.

2159
01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:47,100
if you went fha, you have a 3.5

2160
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:48,100
president down payment.

2161
01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:50,401
convention a 5% down payment.

2162
01:22:52,100 --> 01:22:54,401
you're basically talking high

2163
01:22:55,100 --> 01:22:57,100
300s 380-350.

2164
01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:04,401
that's the mortgage payment.

2165
01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:08,100
it's what the mortgage will be.

2166
01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:11,100
the mother gam payment -- let's

2167
01:23:11,100 --> 01:23:13,100
see if I can do that, if it's

2168
01:23:13,100 --> 01:23:14,100
interest only.

2169
01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:15,100
it's not.

2170
01:23:15,100 --> 01:23:17,401
it's an amortising loan.

2171
01:23:18,100 --> 01:23:19,100
>> we want to make sure the

2172
01:23:19,100 --> 01:23:22,100
person am ore tieing their

2173
01:23:22,100 --> 01:23:23,100
mortgage.

2174
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:24,100
it's deed restricted for 30

2175
01:23:24,100 --> 01:23:25,100
years.

2176
01:23:25,100 --> 01:23:26,100
>> I thank you.

2177
01:23:26,100 --> 01:23:28,100
>> she brought my chart for me.

2178
01:23:28,100 --> 01:23:30,401
thank you. Oky doky.

2179
01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:37,100
let's see here.

2180
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:41,100
>> the housing --

2181
01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:41,100
>> okay.

2182
01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:46,100
for example if you had a -- a we

2183
01:24:46,100 --> 01:24:48,100
did it for all different ways.

2184
01:24:48,100 --> 01:24:50,100
let's see the family of four

2185
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:51,100
calculation here.

2186
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:52,100
family of four.

2187
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:54,100
a hundred percent.

2188
01:24:57,100 --> 01:25:00,100
did you a fha mortgage.

2189
01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:04,100
your monthly payment would be

2190
01:25:07,100 --> 01:25:08,100
about $1400.

2191
01:25:08,100 --> 01:25:10,100
the interest rates have been

2192
01:25:10,100 --> 01:25:12,100
really low lately.

2193
01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:14,100
say it goes up a bit.

2194
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:16,100
on top of that commissioner,

2195
01:25:16,100 --> 01:25:18,100
remember we took this no

2196
01:25:18,100 --> 01:25:19,100
account.

2197
01:25:19,100 --> 01:25:20,100
you have to pay property taxes,

2198
01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:22,100
you have to pay insurance, you

2199
01:25:22,100 --> 01:25:24,100
have to pay an hoa fee.

2200
01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:28,201
we will have a common area to

2201
01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:30,100
maintain.

2202
01:25:30,100 --> 01:25:32,100
by and large your total housing

2203
01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:35,601
payment per month would be about

2204
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:40,401
about $30,000 in total housing

2205
01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:42,100
cost per year.

2206
01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:43,100
about.

2207
01:25:43,100 --> 01:25:44,100
it's an estimate.

2208
01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:47,100
that's depending how much you

2209
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:48,100
actually put down.

2210
01:25:48,100 --> 01:25:51,100
what the actual interest rate is

2211
01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:52,100
that time.

2212
01:25:52,100 --> 01:25:55,100
what the actual probably taxes

2213
01:25:56,100 --> 01:25:57,100
and insurance would be.

2214
01:25:57,100 --> 01:25:59,100
that's about what it would be.

2215
01:25:59,100 --> 01:26:01,100
you typically say someone can

2216
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:04,100
afford ideally, they say around

2217
01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:08,100
30% of their income for housing

2218
01:26:09,100 --> 01:26:10,100
costs.

2219
01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:13,100
in a perfect world that's where

2220
01:26:13,100 --> 01:26:14,100
it would be.

2221
01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:15,100
these days in south florida

2222
01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:17,100
people pay probably a little

2223
01:26:17,100 --> 01:26:19,100
more or a lot more.

2224
01:26:19,100 --> 01:26:21,100
>> that's what we're trying to

2225
01:26:21,100 --> 01:26:23,100
do with affordable housing.

2226
01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:24,100
>> I hear you.

2227
01:26:24,100 --> 01:26:28,201
if we can achieve that we have

2228
01:26:30,100 --> 01:26:32,100
accomplished something.

2229
01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:35,100
you think someone having a 3800

2230
01:26:35,100 --> 01:26:38,100
mortgage would pay 1400 a month.

2231
01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:44,100
>> on pmi.

2232
01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:47,100
say it goes to 1500 or 1600.

2233
01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:51,100
it's reasonable.

2234
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:53,100
think about an apartment.

2235
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:55,100
you're lucky to get an apartment

2236
01:26:55,100 --> 01:26:57,100
these days for that price.

2237
01:26:57,100 --> 01:26:58,100
>> I understand.

2238
01:26:58,100 --> 01:27:01,100
>> of course your rent includes

2239
01:27:01,100 --> 01:27:02,100
taxes and insurance.

2240
01:27:02,100 --> 01:27:05,100
>> given you have bun proforma

2241
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:09,100
what is projected for the

2242
01:27:09,100 --> 01:27:10,100
association.

2243
01:27:10,100 --> 01:27:11,100
>> I project now.

2244
01:27:11,100 --> 01:27:13,401
the association here would

2245
01:27:14,100 --> 01:27:17,100
maintain all of the grounds.

2246
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:18,100
okay.

2247
01:27:18,100 --> 01:27:20,100
the common area, it would

2248
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:22,100
maintain even the landscaping

2249
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:24,100
around everybody's home.

2250
01:27:26,100 --> 01:27:28,100
each individual is responsible

2251
01:27:28,100 --> 01:27:29,100
for their own home.

2252
01:27:29,100 --> 01:27:30,100
okay.

2253
01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:32,100
I estimate about two hundred

2254
01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:35,601
dollars a month for the hoa.

2255
01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:40,100
landscape maintenance,

2256
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:42,100
irrigation.

2257
01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:43,100
the pool.

2258
01:27:43,100 --> 01:27:45,100
those are the main elements have

2259
01:27:45,100 --> 01:27:49,100
to fire a probably manager to do

2260
01:27:49,100 --> 01:27:50,100
that.

2261
01:27:50,100 --> 01:27:52,100
>> that's about 1000 dolars a

2262
01:27:52,100 --> 01:27:55,100
month for 28 units give or take.

2263
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:57,100
will there be common area

2264
01:27:57,100 --> 01:27:58,100
lighting or gate?

2265
01:27:58,100 --> 01:27:59,100
>> no gate.

2266
01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:01,100
we were told no gate by the

2267
01:28:01,100 --> 01:28:02,100
staff.

2268
01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:03,100
we do but will have lighting.

2269
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:05,100
yes, street lighting on the

2270
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:07,100
streets and in any common area

2271
01:28:07,100 --> 01:28:09,401
we will have lighting.

2272
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:19,100
>> according to this seven of

2273
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:21,100
the units are deed restricted

2274
01:28:21,100 --> 01:28:23,100
for 30 years.

2275
01:28:23,100 --> 01:28:26,100
these would be 70,000 tkharz for

2276
01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:29,100
his himself, wife and two

2277
01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:30,100
children.

2278
01:28:30,100 --> 01:28:31,100
for the next 30 years it would

2279
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:34,100
have to be sold or resold to

2280
01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:35,100
someone adjusted for

2281
01:28:35,100 --> 01:28:36,100
inflation --

2282
01:28:36,100 --> 01:28:38,100
>> correct.

2283
01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:40,100
when you put that, there is a

2284
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:42,100
double edge sword with a deed

2285
01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:43,100
restriction.

2286
01:28:43,100 --> 01:28:44,100
some people would say that's a

2287
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:45,100
good idea.

2288
01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:47,100
you kept that neighborhood

2289
01:28:47,100 --> 01:28:50,100
reasonably priced for a longer

2290
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:51,100
period of time.

2291
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:54,100
someone may argue these people

2292
01:28:55,100 --> 01:28:57,100
are not allowed to capture the

2293
01:28:57,100 --> 01:28:58,100
wealth.

2294
01:28:58,100 --> 01:29:00,401
>> another seven again in 140%

2295
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:05,100
range will have deeds restricted

2296
01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:07,100
for 30 years.

2297
01:29:07,100 --> 01:29:10,100
then we have 13, 14 units that

2298
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:13,601
won't, well, ten years for about

2299
01:29:14,100 --> 01:29:15,100
11 of them.

2300
01:29:15,100 --> 01:29:18,100
ten years goes by quickly.

2301
01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:19,100
another throw with no

2302
01:29:19,100 --> 01:29:21,100
restrictions from the get.

2303
01:29:21,100 --> 01:29:24,100
go how do you see this?

2304
01:29:24,100 --> 01:29:26,100
the distortion effect?

2305
01:29:26,100 --> 01:29:28,100
you have three people who bought

2306
01:29:28,100 --> 01:29:29,100
for the same price.

2307
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:30,100
>> yes.

2308
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:32,100
>> they can sell their house in

2309
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:35,100
the marketplace at a price that

2310
01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:37,100
anyone is prepared to pay.

2311
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:39,100
ten years from now there are

2312
01:29:39,100 --> 01:29:41,100
eleven people jumping into that

2313
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:42,100
pool.

2314
01:29:42,100 --> 01:29:43,100
they can sell it for whatever

2315
01:29:43,100 --> 01:29:45,100
the market commands.

2316
01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:48,100
then there is 14 people who

2317
01:29:48,100 --> 01:29:51,601
would be living in the communist

2318
01:29:54,100 --> 01:29:56,100
side of the community.

2319
01:29:56,100 --> 01:29:58,100
how do you see this compression

2320
01:29:58,100 --> 01:29:59,100
effect?

2321
01:29:59,100 --> 01:30:00,100
uplgt it's a interesting

2322
01:30:00,100 --> 01:30:01,100
question.

2323
01:30:01,100 --> 01:30:03,100
we have done this in other

2324
01:30:03,100 --> 01:30:04,100
places.

2325
01:30:04,100 --> 01:30:05,100
>> I have.

2326
01:30:05,100 --> 01:30:06,100
this is why I ask.

2327
01:30:06,100 --> 01:30:07,100
>> okay.

2328
01:30:07,100 --> 01:30:09,100
so we did one in delray beach.

2329
01:30:09,100 --> 01:30:10,100
we h it was reversed.

2330
01:30:10,100 --> 01:30:13,100
there was like a small number of

2331
01:30:13,100 --> 01:30:14,100
deed restricted units and a

2332
01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:16,100
large number of market rate

2333
01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:17,100
units.

2334
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:19,100
so the way I look at it, first

2335
01:30:19,100 --> 01:30:22,100
of all we would like to have as

2336
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:24,100
many unrestricted units as we

2337
01:30:24,100 --> 01:30:26,100
could. We could sell them for

2338
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:28,100
more money up front.

2339
01:30:28,100 --> 01:30:30,100
on the other hand the people who

2340
01:30:30,100 --> 01:30:32,401
bought those, those unrestricted

2341
01:30:34,100 --> 01:30:35,100
units to begin with.

2342
01:30:35,100 --> 01:30:37,100
we will charge them more money

2343
01:30:37,100 --> 01:30:40,100
then we're able to charge.

2344
01:30:40,100 --> 01:30:43,100
>> you say these will be sold --

2345
01:30:43,100 --> 01:30:44,100
>> yes.

2346
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:45,100
I'm not selling the same unit.

2347
01:30:45,100 --> 01:30:48,100
>> which one will sell for foyer

2348
01:30:48,100 --> 01:30:49,100
hundred thousand?

2349
01:30:49,100 --> 01:30:52,100
>> the restricted units will be

2350
01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:55,100
around for 400 units.

2351
01:30:55,100 --> 01:30:57,401
the unrestricted maybe 50,000 or

2352
01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:01,100
$40,000 higher.

2353
01:31:01,100 --> 01:31:03,100
whatever the market can bear.

2354
01:31:03,100 --> 01:31:06,100
>> there are three tiers here.

2355
01:31:09,100 --> 01:31:12,601
assume 146 them will sell for --

2356
01:31:20,100 --> 01:31:21,100
>> that's a good guess tpufpblgt

2357
01:31:21,100 --> 01:31:22,100
tell me I could price

2358
01:31:22,100 --> 01:31:24,100
accordingly.

2359
01:31:24,100 --> 01:31:25,100
my guess.

2360
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:27,100
kevin, what do you think for a

2361
01:31:27,100 --> 01:31:29,100
premium between only having a

2362
01:31:29,100 --> 01:31:30,100
deed restriction for ten years

2363
01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:32,100
versus 30 years.

2364
01:31:32,100 --> 01:31:35,100
I would say it's probably a

2365
01:31:35,100 --> 01:31:37,100
5 percent difference.

2366
01:31:37,100 --> 01:31:38,100
maybe ten percent.

2367
01:31:38,100 --> 01:31:41,100
it depends on the individual.

2368
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:42,100
some people are so happy to get

2369
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:45,100
a house it's living I will do

2370
01:31:45,100 --> 01:31:46,100
whatever I have to do.

2371
01:31:46,100 --> 01:31:47,100
I will take the restriction.

2372
01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:49,100
others will say I will pay, I

2373
01:31:49,100 --> 01:31:51,100
will bet the market will go up

2374
01:31:51,100 --> 01:31:53,100
more in that period of time.

2375
01:31:53,100 --> 01:31:54,100
>> what would be the premium on

2376
01:31:54,100 --> 01:31:57,100
the ones, the three with no

2377
01:31:57,100 --> 01:31:58,100
restrictions.

2378
01:31:58,100 --> 01:31:59,100
>> I think it will be

2379
01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:00,100
significant.

2380
01:32:00,100 --> 01:32:02,100
I think that will be a double

2381
01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:04,100
premium over what, between the

2382
01:32:04,100 --> 01:32:06,100
ten and the thirty.

2383
01:32:06,100 --> 01:32:09,100
>> is that part of the proforma?

2384
01:32:09,100 --> 01:32:10,100
>> yes.

2385
01:32:10,100 --> 01:32:11,100
>> I saw one without a

2386
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:12,100
differentiation in price.

2387
01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:13,100
>> into it shows a

2388
01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:15,100
differentiation in price.

2389
01:32:15,100 --> 01:32:16,100
>> I didn't notice.

2390
01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:18,100
>> yes, it showed a

2391
01:32:18,100 --> 01:32:20,401
differentiation in price with

2392
01:32:21,100 --> 01:32:22,100
the unrestricted.

2393
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:25,100
but you're correct it didn't

2394
01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:27,100
show a differentiation between

2395
01:32:27,100 --> 01:32:29,100
the ten and thirty year.

2396
01:32:29,100 --> 01:32:32,100
there should be somewhat like

2397
01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:36,100
5%.

2398
01:32:36,100 --> 01:32:37,100
>> okay.

2399
01:32:37,100 --> 01:32:38,100
I will save the rest of my

2400
01:32:38,100 --> 01:32:40,100
questions for staff.

2401
01:32:42,100 --> 01:32:44,100
thank you for your presentation.

2402
01:32:44,100 --> 01:32:45,100
sir.

2403
01:32:45,100 --> 01:32:46,100
>> hold on.

2404
01:32:46,100 --> 01:32:48,100
assistant deputy mayor.

2405
01:32:51,100 --> 01:32:52,100
>> thank you for pointing that

2406
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:53,100
out.

2407
01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:54,100
>> go ahead.

2408
01:32:54,100 --> 01:32:55,100
>> hold your fire.

2409
01:32:55,100 --> 01:32:57,100
I'm sorry. Hold your thought I

2410
01:32:57,100 --> 01:32:59,100
want -- since I'm --

2411
01:32:59,100 --> 01:33:01,100
>> I didn't want him to sit

2412
01:33:01,100 --> 01:33:02,100
down.

2413
01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:03,100
>> no he can come back.

2414
01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:05,100
I wanted to direct, I didn't

2415
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:07,100
think co answer these other

2416
01:33:07,100 --> 01:33:08,100
questions.

2417
01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:10,100
>> sorry.

2418
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:12,100
go ahead, commissioner douglas.

2419
01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:13,100
>> no.

2420
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:17,201
obviously we have -- I have no

2421
01:33:22,100 --> 01:33:25,100
problem selling something at a

2422
01:33:25,100 --> 01:33:28,100
subsidy if it promotes a common

2423
01:33:28,100 --> 01:33:29,100
good.

2424
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:32,100
we bought it for about $900,000.

2425
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:35,601
even using a baseline would be

2426
01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:38,100
giving up 400,000-dollar

2427
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:41,100
subsidy.

2428
01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:43,100
I saw an appraisal for 1

2429
01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:45,100
pointalot.

2430
01:33:45,100 --> 01:33:48,100
I saw another updated appraisal

2431
01:33:48,100 --> 01:33:49,100
for another amount.

2432
01:33:49,100 --> 01:33:51,100
I saw another appraisal for

2433
01:33:51,100 --> 01:33:52,100
another amount.

2434
01:33:52,100 --> 01:33:54,100
taking into consideration

2435
01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:56,100
various assumptions.

2436
01:33:57,100 --> 01:33:59,100
I'm not sure I'm comfortable

2437
01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:00,100
with the a prates als.

2438
01:34:00,100 --> 01:34:03,100
how the property was appraised.

2439
01:34:04,100 --> 01:34:07,100
if I don't feel comfortable that

2440
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:10,100
given the public dollars away, I

2441
01:34:10,100 --> 01:34:11,100
understand.

2442
01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:12,100
I'm supportive of the east

2443
01:34:12,100 --> 01:34:14,100
sunrise development.

2444
01:34:14,100 --> 01:34:17,100
not every project, not every

2445
01:34:17,100 --> 01:34:18,100
developer -- I'm not knocking

2446
01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:20,401
your capacities or thiging

2447
01:34:21,100 --> 01:34:23,100
you're not shooting straight

2448
01:34:23,100 --> 01:34:24,100
with us.

2449
01:34:24,100 --> 01:34:26,100
I'm saying not every project

2450
01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:27,100
will be right.

2451
01:34:27,100 --> 01:34:30,100
because of how the dollars are

2452
01:34:30,100 --> 01:34:31,100
playing out.

2453
01:34:31,100 --> 01:34:35,801
I will start with a base hine of

2454
01:34:40,100 --> 01:34:41,100
four hundred thousand.

2455
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:43,100
I know there were assumptions

2456
01:34:43,100 --> 01:34:45,100
based on covid.

2457
01:34:45,100 --> 01:34:48,100
according to the appraisal we

2458
01:34:48,100 --> 01:34:50,100
know how the market played out.

2459
01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:53,601
I know there are assumptions of

2460
01:35:00,100 --> 01:35:03,601
2 units being built or five or

2461
01:35:04,100 --> 01:35:05,100
ten.

2462
01:35:05,100 --> 01:35:08,100
that's 30 -- the numbers are all

2463
01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:09,100
over the place.

2464
01:35:09,100 --> 01:35:12,601
if I'm giving up flex units.

2465
01:35:18,100 --> 01:35:21,100
it's not just the land sale but

2466
01:35:21,100 --> 01:35:24,100
giving up flex units I have a

2467
01:35:24,100 --> 01:35:26,100
lot more questions.

2468
01:35:26,100 --> 01:35:28,100
I may not necessarily want to

2469
01:35:28,100 --> 01:35:31,100
put staff on the spot.

2470
01:35:31,100 --> 01:35:33,100
I can't support it tonight as it

2471
01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:34,100
is.

2472
01:35:34,100 --> 01:35:37,100
I will pass the floor.

2473
01:35:42,100 --> 01:35:45,100
>> as you know I'm fairly new.

2474
01:35:45,100 --> 01:35:47,401
agree with commissioner douglas.

2475
01:35:48,100 --> 01:35:50,100
my concern was the same for the

2476
01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:51,100
affordable housing and east

2477
01:35:51,100 --> 01:35:52,100
sunrise.

2478
01:35:52,100 --> 01:35:54,100
I to would like to kind of wait

2479
01:35:54,100 --> 01:35:56,100
for more information and do more

2480
01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:58,100
research.

2481
01:35:58,100 --> 01:35:59,100
even on other properties they

2482
01:35:59,100 --> 01:36:01,401
have in broward county.

2483
01:36:02,100 --> 01:36:03,100
>> thank you.

2484
01:36:03,100 --> 01:36:05,100
>> mayor ryan.

2485
01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:08,401
>> thank you, deputy mayor.

2486
01:36:10,100 --> 01:36:11,100
first of all thank you to the

2487
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:13,401
team for being here.

2488
01:36:14,100 --> 01:36:16,100
it's apparent they're incredibly

2489
01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:18,100
knowledgeable and done projects

2490
01:36:18,100 --> 01:36:19,100
like this.

2491
01:36:19,100 --> 01:36:22,100
I think hearing my colleagues

2492
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:26,100
who have not only reasonable

2493
01:36:26,100 --> 01:36:27,100
questions but gaps of

2494
01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:29,100
information as a courtesy to my

2495
01:36:29,100 --> 01:36:31,100
colleagues I wouldn't want to

2496
01:36:31,100 --> 01:36:32,100
proceed.

2497
01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:33,100
I think this have a project we

2498
01:36:33,100 --> 01:36:35,100
need to be a hundred percent

2499
01:36:35,100 --> 01:36:39,201
behind as we begin it I would

2500
01:36:41,100 --> 01:36:43,100
like to move rapidly up or down.

2501
01:36:43,100 --> 01:36:47,100
I think time is of the essence.

2502
01:36:47,100 --> 01:36:49,100
an outline of plotting is

2503
01:36:49,100 --> 01:36:51,100
laborious and time consuming.

2504
01:36:51,100 --> 01:36:53,100
there are significant policy

2505
01:36:53,100 --> 01:36:55,100
questions raised including

2506
01:36:55,100 --> 01:36:56,100
whether this is the right

2507
01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:59,100
balance of deed restriction and

2508
01:37:03,100 --> 01:37:06,100
it might be correct as a effort

2509
01:37:06,100 --> 01:37:08,100
to jump start the area.

2510
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:10,100
as pointed out and answered this

2511
01:37:10,100 --> 01:37:12,100
is a legitimate question as to

2512
01:37:12,100 --> 01:37:15,601
whether or not we're doing this,

2513
01:37:16,100 --> 01:37:19,100
kind of excluded some people who

2514
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:23,100
get in early from the beauty of

2515
01:37:23,100 --> 01:37:24,100
home ownership.

2516
01:37:24,100 --> 01:37:27,100
investing all of your money in a

2517
01:37:27,100 --> 01:37:30,601
single asset and then not able

2518
01:37:31,100 --> 01:37:34,100
to take advantage to improve the

2519
01:37:34,100 --> 01:37:35,100
area.

2520
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:38,100
based on the questions of

2521
01:37:40,100 --> 01:37:42,100
commissioner douglas.

2522
01:37:42,100 --> 01:37:44,100
fare and reasonable as pointed

2523
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:47,100
out by assistant deputy mayor

2524
01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:49,100
I'm not sat fights moving

2525
01:37:49,100 --> 01:37:51,401
forward until everyone is

2526
01:37:52,100 --> 01:37:54,100
satisfied.

2527
01:37:54,100 --> 01:37:56,100
>> mr. Scuotto.

2528
01:37:56,100 --> 01:37:58,100
>> okay.

2529
01:37:58,100 --> 01:37:59,100
let's break this down in

2530
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:00,100
english.

2531
01:38:00,100 --> 01:38:02,100
so this is where it comes down

2532
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:04,100
to make commissioners

2533
01:38:05,100 --> 01:38:06,100
understand.

2534
01:38:06,100 --> 01:38:09,601
for someone out of the ordinary.

2535
01:38:12,100 --> 01:38:15,100
none of us are developers or do

2536
01:38:15,100 --> 01:38:16,100
what they do.

2537
01:38:16,100 --> 01:38:18,100
here the city had a piece of

2538
01:38:18,100 --> 01:38:19,100
property.

2539
01:38:19,100 --> 01:38:21,100
someone wanted to get rid of it.

2540
01:38:21,100 --> 01:38:23,100
we purchased it.

2541
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:25,100
we bait it for 9 hundred

2542
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:26,100
thousand.

2543
01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:27,100
we wanted to develop it.

2544
01:38:27,100 --> 01:38:29,100
we're not a developer.

2545
01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:32,100
we knocked the building down and

2546
01:38:32,100 --> 01:38:34,401
left it for grass.

2547
01:38:42,100 --> 01:38:44,100
we put ideas out this.

2548
01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:47,100
for one problem we bought it for

2549
01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:48,100
nine hundred.

2550
01:38:48,100 --> 01:38:50,100
we're giving it to someone for

2551
01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:51,100
five hundred.

2552
01:38:51,100 --> 01:38:53,100
anyone would say that's pretty

2553
01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:54,100
crazy.

2554
01:38:54,100 --> 01:38:55,100
you have an appraisal that says

2555
01:38:55,100 --> 01:38:57,100
the property now because how

2556
01:38:57,100 --> 01:38:59,100
things have escalated up it's

2557
01:38:59,100 --> 01:39:01,100
worth two million.

2558
01:39:02,100 --> 01:39:04,100
whatever it is.

2559
01:39:04,100 --> 01:39:06,100
that's our investment instead of

2560
01:39:06,100 --> 01:39:08,100
coming out of pocket to give

2561
01:39:08,100 --> 01:39:10,100
someone something to redevelop

2562
01:39:10,100 --> 01:39:11,100
where it is.

2563
01:39:11,100 --> 01:39:14,601
here, we have a couple of

2564
01:39:15,100 --> 01:39:16,100
options.

2565
01:39:16,100 --> 01:39:17,100
we put it out this.

2566
01:39:17,100 --> 01:39:18,100
is the option we chose.

2567
01:39:18,100 --> 01:39:21,601
we could of picked habitat for

2568
01:39:25,100 --> 01:39:26,100
humanity.

2569
01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:29,100
here you want to develop 15

2570
01:39:30,100 --> 01:39:33,100
houses or 20 we could gone that

2571
01:39:33,100 --> 01:39:34,100
route.

2572
01:39:34,100 --> 01:39:35,100
we could of gone to someone else

2573
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:37,100
and say eight houses on each

2574
01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:39,100
side, single family and give it

2575
01:39:39,100 --> 01:39:40,100
to someone and do that.

2576
01:39:40,100 --> 01:39:43,601
this is what the option was.

2577
01:39:48,100 --> 01:39:50,100
affordable housing.

2578
01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:52,401
everyone thinks of affordable

2579
01:39:53,100 --> 01:39:55,100
housing as what you grew up with

2580
01:39:55,100 --> 01:39:57,100
in new york or chicago. You put

2581
01:39:57,100 --> 01:39:59,100
people in big buildings and give

2582
01:39:59,100 --> 01:40:01,100
free rent or co ops.

2583
01:40:01,100 --> 01:40:03,100
whatever it is.

2584
01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:06,100
affordable housing, commissioner

2585
01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:08,100
douglas it's $400,000.

2586
01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:10,100
it's not credited affordable

2587
01:40:10,100 --> 01:40:11,100
housing.

2588
01:40:11,100 --> 01:40:13,100
but the rate of the market of

2589
01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:16,100
the homes going in all of these

2590
01:40:16,100 --> 01:40:18,100
areas are 300, 100 plus.

2591
01:40:22,100 --> 01:40:24,100
I mean we just approved a

2592
01:40:24,100 --> 01:40:26,100
development that will go out on

2593
01:40:26,100 --> 01:40:28,401
the golf course, 900 units.

2594
01:40:29,100 --> 01:40:32,100
they will start off at 400,000.

2595
01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:35,100
>> we're not giving the public

2596
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:36,100
that --

2597
01:40:36,100 --> 01:40:37,100
>> no, I'm saying to understand

2598
01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:39,100
for anyone listening.

2599
01:40:39,100 --> 01:40:41,100
they're going to have an option

2600
01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:43,100
to buy a house with no

2601
01:40:43,100 --> 01:40:46,100
restrictions a few at an

2602
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:49,100
affordable rate.

2603
01:40:49,100 --> 01:40:51,100
because we're putting money into

2604
01:40:51,100 --> 01:40:54,100
this on our own we feel the

2605
01:40:54,100 --> 01:40:56,100
prices should be lower than the

2606
01:40:56,100 --> 01:40:57,100
100.

2607
01:40:57,100 --> 01:40:59,100
nobody can build under the 400

2608
01:40:59,100 --> 01:41:00,100
now.

2609
01:41:00,100 --> 01:41:04,201
I don't care why they come up

2610
01:41:09,655 --> 01:41:11,655
with the number.

2611
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:32,463
>> if commissioner douglas has

2612
01:41:32,463 --> 01:41:35,463
the questions then maybe it

2613
01:41:39,519 --> 01:41:42,519
wasn't explained for us to

2614
01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:45,100
understand the money or property

2615
01:41:45,100 --> 01:41:47,401
we're giving towards this.

2616
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:49,100
you think about busting down the

2617
01:41:49,100 --> 01:41:50,100
numbers.

2618
01:41:50,100 --> 01:41:53,100
when I busted them down if he

2619
01:41:53,100 --> 01:41:56,100
says $200 will be for an hoa.

2620
01:41:56,100 --> 01:41:58,100
okay.

2621
01:41:58,100 --> 01:42:01,100
if you buy a 400,000-dollar

2622
01:42:01,100 --> 01:42:03,100
house your taxes will be about

2623
01:42:03,100 --> 01:42:05,401
four thousand 1000 a year.

2624
01:42:09,100 --> 01:42:10,100
easy.

2625
01:42:10,100 --> 01:42:12,401
now you're buying at 100.

2626
01:42:13,100 --> 01:42:16,100
someone buying may under that.

2627
01:42:16,100 --> 01:42:18,401
four or five thousand.

2628
01:42:19,100 --> 01:42:20,100
then insurance minimum on a

2629
01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:22,100
brand new house 4000.

2630
01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:25,100
so I'm seeing -- we're looking

2631
01:42:25,100 --> 01:42:27,100
at an affordable house in

2632
01:42:27,100 --> 01:42:28,100
sunrise.

2633
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:31,100
your payment is about 2700 to

2634
01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:34,100
$3000 a month without.

2635
01:42:40,100 --> 01:42:42,100
>> I don't want to give public

2636
01:42:42,100 --> 01:42:45,100
land in a subsidy if they can

2637
01:42:45,100 --> 01:42:46,100
afford to pay that.

2638
01:42:46,100 --> 01:42:48,100
>> that's what I'm saying.

2639
01:42:48,100 --> 01:42:50,100
when I sat on the, what do you

2640
01:42:50,100 --> 01:42:51,100
call it the regional planning

2641
01:42:51,100 --> 01:42:54,100
council for dade county, monroe

2642
01:42:54,100 --> 01:42:56,100
county and broward county I was

2643
01:42:56,100 --> 01:42:57,100
in charge of three different

2644
01:42:57,100 --> 01:42:58,100
counties.

2645
01:42:58,100 --> 01:43:02,201
miami. Has the issues we have to

2646
01:43:05,100 --> 01:43:07,100
give them 20 percent affordable

2647
01:43:07,100 --> 01:43:09,100
housing.

2648
01:43:19,100 --> 01:43:21,100
>> this is confusing to bust it

2649
01:43:21,100 --> 01:43:24,100
out as far as deed restricted.

2650
01:43:24,100 --> 01:43:25,100
he can get more money, people

2651
01:43:25,100 --> 01:43:26,100
can sell.

2652
01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:28,100
people after ten years.

2653
01:43:28,100 --> 01:43:30,100
it seems to be getting more

2654
01:43:30,100 --> 01:43:32,100
confusing as we talking about

2655
01:43:32,100 --> 01:43:33,100
this.

2656
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:36,100
rather than how simplified it

2657
01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:39,100
is.

2658
01:43:39,100 --> 01:43:40,100
simplified I'm saying there will

2659
01:43:40,100 --> 01:43:41,100
be a dollar amount.

2660
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:43,100
when someone says a house is

2661
01:43:43,100 --> 01:43:46,100
100,000 on the east side of

2662
01:43:46,100 --> 01:43:47,100
sunrise.

2663
01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:48,100
you don't have to make as much

2664
01:43:48,100 --> 01:43:50,100
money because you can qualify.

2665
01:43:50,100 --> 01:43:52,100
not with twenty percent down as

2666
01:43:52,100 --> 01:43:53,100
a normal person.

2667
01:43:53,100 --> 01:43:56,601
we will give you a 3% down.

2668
01:43:58,100 --> 01:44:01,100
why is someone buying something

2669
01:44:19,100 --> 01:44:22,100
for 440 there unless it's an

2670
01:44:22,100 --> 01:44:25,601
easy way to qualify unless the

2671
01:44:26,100 --> 01:44:28,100
3 percent down does help people.

2672
01:44:28,100 --> 01:44:30,100
3% down does help people at

2673
01:44:30,100 --> 01:44:31,100
400,000.

2674
01:44:31,100 --> 01:44:34,100
when you have to come up with

2675
01:44:34,100 --> 01:44:36,100
20,000, $80,000.

2676
01:44:37,100 --> 01:44:40,100
3 percent down you come up with

2677
01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:42,100
x amount.

2678
01:44:49,100 --> 01:44:52,100
>> I'm not trying to knock

2679
01:44:52,100 --> 01:44:53,100
anything.

2680
01:44:53,100 --> 01:44:56,100
he opened the door and we're

2681
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:58,100
looking at it not as a two

2682
01:44:58,100 --> 01:45:00,100
hundred thousand dollar condo on

2683
01:45:00,100 --> 01:45:02,100
sunset strip.

2684
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:04,100
you can buy a home out west here

2685
01:45:04,100 --> 01:45:06,100
for 450,000.

2686
01:45:06,100 --> 01:45:09,100
why do I want to be restricted.

2687
01:45:09,100 --> 01:45:11,100
we are figuring out why that

2688
01:45:11,100 --> 01:45:14,100
person wants to spend 450 there

2689
01:45:14,100 --> 01:45:15,100
and be restricted for ten years

2690
01:45:15,100 --> 01:45:17,100
or someone restricted for 30

2691
01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:19,100
years.

2692
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:22,100
where is the benefit to me.

2693
01:45:22,100 --> 01:45:25,100
I will pay a 200-dollar hoa.

2694
01:45:25,100 --> 01:45:27,100
out west no hoa.

2695
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:29,100
if I live in a gated

2696
01:45:29,100 --> 01:45:30,100
community --

2697
01:45:30,100 --> 01:45:32,100
>> what.

2698
01:45:32,100 --> 01:45:34,100
>> you live in a gated

2699
01:45:34,100 --> 01:45:35,100
community.

2700
01:45:35,100 --> 01:45:38,100
I'm saying, mayor ryan, neil has

2701
01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:41,601
an hoa too. Not substantial like

2702
01:45:42,100 --> 01:45:43,100
yours.

2703
01:45:43,100 --> 01:45:44,100
>> one of the things to think

2704
01:45:44,100 --> 01:45:45,100
about, I would say, there is a

2705
01:45:45,100 --> 01:45:47,100
premium for new construction.

2706
01:45:47,100 --> 01:45:48,100
okay.

2707
01:45:48,100 --> 01:45:49,100
there always is.

2708
01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:50,100
you pay more.

2709
01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:52,100
you build the same house 20

2710
01:45:52,100 --> 01:45:54,100
years ago, same square footage

2711
01:45:54,100 --> 01:45:56,100
and build a brand new one today

2712
01:45:56,100 --> 01:46:00,201
you will get a premium for that.

2713
01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:07,100
you are hitting the point we

2714
01:46:07,100 --> 01:46:09,100
have discussed with staff for a

2715
01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:10,100
long time.

2716
01:46:10,100 --> 01:46:14,100
rarely do we do 90% of the homes

2717
01:46:14,100 --> 01:46:15,100
as deed restricted.

2718
01:46:15,100 --> 01:46:17,401
by making 90% deed restricted

2719
01:46:18,100 --> 01:46:20,401
that reduces the price.

2720
01:46:21,100 --> 01:46:23,100
in the preforma the information.

2721
01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:25,100
I want to give you the exact

2722
01:46:25,100 --> 01:46:26,100
numbers.

2723
01:46:26,100 --> 01:46:27,100
I should of brought the lap top

2724
01:46:27,100 --> 01:46:28,100
originally.

2725
01:46:28,100 --> 01:46:30,100
I didn't understand this level

2726
01:46:30,100 --> 01:46:32,100
of specificity.

2727
01:46:32,100 --> 01:46:35,100
we h we projected homes to be

2728
01:46:35,100 --> 01:46:37,100
priced from 358 at the pot only

2729
01:46:37,100 --> 01:46:41,201
end for the ones under a hundred

2730
01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:47,100
percent of the median income.

2731
01:46:47,100 --> 01:46:50,100
one car garage and two car

2732
01:46:50,100 --> 01:46:51,100
garage.

2733
01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:54,100
one car was 1471 square feet it

2734
01:46:54,100 --> 01:46:57,100
had a 3 bedrooms in it.

2735
01:46:57,100 --> 01:47:01,100
the one with the 2 car gar am

2736
01:47:01,100 --> 01:47:03,401
was 1871 with four bedrooms

2737
01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:06,100
okay.

2738
01:47:06,100 --> 01:47:07,100
a hundred percent we projected

2739
01:47:07,100 --> 01:47:09,100
in today's dollars.

2740
01:47:10,100 --> 01:47:12,100
358 and 372.

2741
01:47:14,100 --> 01:47:15,100
okay.

2742
01:47:15,100 --> 01:47:16,100
25,000-dollar different.

2743
01:47:16,100 --> 01:47:18,401
for those 100 to 140 percent.

2744
01:47:20,100 --> 01:47:23,100
one car garage 1471 were 375 the

2745
01:47:26,100 --> 01:47:28,401
140% restricted that were at 4

2746
01:47:31,100 --> 01:47:33,401
bedrooms, two car garage, 1871

2747
01:47:35,100 --> 01:47:37,401
square feet were at 400,000.

2748
01:47:38,100 --> 01:47:39,100
then the market units we

2749
01:47:39,100 --> 01:47:42,100
projected to be 385 for the one

2750
01:47:42,100 --> 01:47:44,100
car garage.

2751
01:47:44,100 --> 01:47:46,100
1471 square foot unit.

2752
01:48:04,100 --> 01:48:06,100
(lost audio )

2753
01:49:15,730 --> 01:49:19,000
>> I want to sell for or not

2754
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:22,100
sell or I don't support -- I see

2755
01:49:22,100 --> 01:49:24,100
the anomalies coming.

2756
01:49:25,100 --> 01:49:27,100
you have ten years is not a lot

2757
01:49:27,100 --> 01:49:29,100
of time.

2758
01:49:29,100 --> 01:49:31,100
more than half of the units

2759
01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:33,100
would be at market rate in the

2760
01:49:33,100 --> 01:49:35,100
next ten years.

2761
01:49:35,100 --> 01:49:39,201
look the set that is eleven deed

2762
01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:43,100
restricted for ten years, I

2763
01:49:43,100 --> 01:49:46,100
believe and two, so thirteen.

2764
01:49:46,100 --> 01:49:47,100
almost half.

2765
01:49:47,100 --> 01:49:48,100
within ten years there would be

2766
01:49:48,100 --> 01:49:50,100
a free for all on the market.

2767
01:49:50,100 --> 01:49:51,100
capitalist fro for all.

2768
01:49:51,100 --> 01:49:53,100
then you have another set of

2769
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:55,100
people here would can only find

2770
01:49:55,100 --> 01:49:57,100
another individual finding.

2771
01:49:57,100 --> 01:49:59,100
how do we enforce that. Maybe

2772
01:49:59,100 --> 01:50:01,100
you can help me too. We would

2773
01:50:01,100 --> 01:50:03,100
seem to be in a position where

2774
01:50:03,100 --> 01:50:05,401
we have play police.

2775
01:50:06,100 --> 01:50:07,100
making sure, I don't know if

2776
01:50:07,100 --> 01:50:09,100
it's on the tkoed, title

2777
01:50:09,100 --> 01:50:11,100
insurance company will say how

2778
01:50:11,100 --> 01:50:12,100
much do you make.

2779
01:50:12,100 --> 01:50:15,601
then you have someone -- you

2780
01:50:16,100 --> 01:50:18,100
remember the liar liar mother

2781
01:50:18,100 --> 01:50:19,100
tkpwapblgdz back in the day.

2782
01:50:19,100 --> 01:50:21,100
how much do I need to make.

2783
01:50:21,100 --> 01:50:23,100
>> let me say something.

2784
01:50:23,100 --> 01:50:25,100
I think this is a really

2785
01:50:25,100 --> 01:50:26,100
interesting point.

2786
01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:28,100
I think commissioner scuotto was

2787
01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:30,100
going towards it initially when

2788
01:50:30,100 --> 01:50:32,100
you do a project like this,

2789
01:50:32,100 --> 01:50:33,100
okay.

2790
01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:34,100
you can talk about how long you

2791
01:50:34,100 --> 01:50:36,100
deed restrict for.

2792
01:50:36,100 --> 01:50:37,100
there are a lot of angles to

2793
01:50:37,100 --> 01:50:38,100
take.

2794
01:50:38,100 --> 01:50:41,100
you know philosophically you can

2795
01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:42,100
come up with different

2796
01:50:42,100 --> 01:50:44,100
approaches.

2797
01:50:45,100 --> 01:50:46,100
here is the key.

2798
01:50:46,100 --> 01:50:49,100
what you're trying to do here,

2799
01:50:49,100 --> 01:50:50,100
you're trying to redevelop a

2800
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:51,100
neighborhood.

2801
01:50:51,100 --> 01:50:53,100
you're trying to lift a

2802
01:50:53,100 --> 01:50:54,100
neighborhood up.

2803
01:50:54,100 --> 01:50:55,100
one of the ways you can lift a

2804
01:50:55,100 --> 01:50:57,100
neighborhood up.

2805
01:50:57,100 --> 01:51:00,100
say there was no vacant piece of

2806
01:51:00,100 --> 01:51:01,100
property like this.

2807
01:51:01,100 --> 01:51:03,100
you can really inject excitement

2808
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:06,100
and energy some, you know some

2809
01:51:06,100 --> 01:51:07,100
vision into what the

2810
01:51:07,100 --> 01:51:09,401
neighborhood could become you

2811
01:51:11,100 --> 01:51:12,100
instead.

2812
01:51:12,100 --> 01:51:14,100
there was no vacant pieces of

2813
01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:15,100
land.

2814
01:51:15,100 --> 01:51:17,100
you are relying on one person

2815
01:51:17,100 --> 01:51:19,100
here and one person here.

2816
01:51:19,100 --> 01:51:21,100
one person somewhere else.

2817
01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:23,100
slowly, slowly, slowly overtime

2818
01:51:23,100 --> 01:51:25,100
the whole neighborhood lifts up

2819
01:51:25,100 --> 01:51:26,100
this.

2820
01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:27,100
is different okay.

2821
01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:29,100
you have the chance to put 2

2822
01:51:29,100 --> 01:51:30,100
brand new homes here.

2823
01:51:30,100 --> 01:51:32,100
what that will do is it's going

2824
01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:35,100
to then, yes, that is an

2825
01:51:35,100 --> 01:51:36,100
investment.

2826
01:51:36,100 --> 01:51:37,100
to me, you pick whatever price

2827
01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:39,100
you want to sell it for and see

2828
01:51:39,100 --> 01:51:41,100
if you get someone to buy it at

2829
01:51:41,100 --> 01:51:43,100
the end of the day is to get

2830
01:51:43,100 --> 01:51:45,100
east sunrise moving.

2831
01:51:46,100 --> 01:51:47,100
>> todd: see new construction,

2832
01:51:47,100 --> 01:51:49,401
new investment is possible.

2833
01:51:50,100 --> 01:51:52,100
in this neighborhood.

2834
01:51:52,100 --> 01:51:54,100
you see people fixing up their

2835
01:51:54,100 --> 01:51:56,100
homes all of a sudden.

2836
01:51:56,100 --> 01:51:58,100
it happens time after time after

2837
01:51:58,100 --> 01:51:59,100
time this.

2838
01:51:59,100 --> 01:52:00,100
is not a cra.

2839
01:52:00,100 --> 01:52:02,100
it's not a created redevelopment

2840
01:52:02,100 --> 01:52:03,100
area.

2841
01:52:03,100 --> 01:52:05,100
in essence that's the sprat gee

2842
01:52:05,100 --> 01:52:06,100
you're employing here.

2843
01:52:06,100 --> 01:52:08,100
you're trying to take a

2844
01:52:08,100 --> 01:52:10,401
neighborhood that hasn't grown

2845
01:52:12,100 --> 01:52:14,100
in investment and value as much

2846
01:52:14,100 --> 01:52:17,100
as other neighborhoods in the

2847
01:52:17,100 --> 01:52:18,100
city has.

2848
01:52:18,100 --> 01:52:19,100
you're trying to inject

2849
01:52:19,100 --> 01:52:21,100
investment moot neighborhood to

2850
01:52:21,100 --> 01:52:22,100
make it happen.

2851
01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:24,100
make it happen sooner than it

2852
01:52:24,100 --> 01:52:26,100
otherwise would of if it was

2853
01:52:26,100 --> 01:52:29,100
done in a piece mail basis.

2854
01:52:29,100 --> 01:52:32,100
that's the urban planning theory

2855
01:52:32,100 --> 01:52:34,100
and the redevelopment theory

2856
01:52:34,100 --> 01:52:35,100
behind what you're doing.

2857
01:52:35,100 --> 01:52:38,100
I think it's a sound thaoer.y

2858
01:52:38,100 --> 01:52:40,100
you can get hung up on the sp*s

2859
01:52:40,100 --> 01:52:41,100
specs of the numbers.

2860
01:52:41,100 --> 01:52:43,100
I think the staff and us were

2861
01:52:43,100 --> 01:52:45,100
working towards a solution that,

2862
01:52:45,100 --> 01:52:48,601
that we didn't sell houses for

2863
01:52:49,100 --> 01:52:50,100
six hundred thousand dollars.

2864
01:52:50,100 --> 01:52:52,100
I don't know if I can could sell

2865
01:52:52,100 --> 01:52:53,100
them now.

2866
01:52:53,100 --> 01:52:54,100
some day you could.

2867
01:52:54,100 --> 01:52:56,100
I think, I haven't heard anyone

2868
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:57,100
say they don't liking our plan

2869
01:52:57,100 --> 01:52:59,100
or concept.

2870
01:52:59,100 --> 01:53:00,100
everyone seems to like it it's

2871
01:53:00,100 --> 01:53:03,100
all about the numbers, about

2872
01:53:03,100 --> 01:53:05,100
what we can sell them for and

2873
01:53:05,100 --> 01:53:06,100
build them for.

2874
01:53:06,100 --> 01:53:07,100
>> you know, sir, I have to be

2875
01:53:07,100 --> 01:53:09,100
honest on the numbers

2876
01:53:09,100 --> 01:53:10,100
unfortunately.

2877
01:53:10,100 --> 01:53:12,100
as much as concepts are great.

2878
01:53:12,100 --> 01:53:14,100
this was printed out on the

2879
01:53:14,100 --> 01:53:15,100
agenda before.

2880
01:53:15,100 --> 01:53:16,100
it's public nothing.

2881
01:53:16,100 --> 01:53:19,100
the offer was four hundred

2882
01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:20,100
grand.

2883
01:53:20,100 --> 01:53:22,100
I got hung up on the numbers.

2884
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:24,100
the item was pulled.

2885
01:53:24,100 --> 01:53:26,100
now the offer is another hundred

2886
01:53:26,100 --> 01:53:27,100
grand.

2887
01:53:27,100 --> 01:53:28,100
that's a lot of money.

2888
01:53:28,100 --> 01:53:32,201
I'm glad I was on the numbers.

2889
01:53:33,100 --> 01:53:35,100
even if my colleagues approve it

2890
01:53:35,100 --> 01:53:36,100
tonight, I can't.

2891
01:53:36,100 --> 01:53:37,100
I have another hundred grand

2892
01:53:37,100 --> 01:53:39,100
because I expressed my

2893
01:53:39,100 --> 01:53:40,100
discomfort with the numbers and

2894
01:53:40,100 --> 01:53:42,100
the item was pulled.

2895
01:53:42,100 --> 01:53:43,100
forgive me.

2896
01:53:43,100 --> 01:53:46,100
>> no, I'm not asking --

2897
01:53:49,100 --> 01:53:51,100
>> I condition blindly.

2898
01:53:51,100 --> 01:53:53,100
I believe all my colleagues

2899
01:53:53,100 --> 01:53:54,100
support redevelopment.

2900
01:53:54,100 --> 01:53:56,100
we went out there to bat for

2901
01:53:56,100 --> 01:53:58,100
sunrise we development.

2902
01:53:59,100 --> 01:54:02,100
we know whether the money is for

2903
01:54:02,100 --> 01:54:04,100
facade improvement, that has

2904
01:54:04,100 --> 01:54:07,100
happened before or whether we

2905
01:54:09,100 --> 01:54:10,100
buy units.

2906
01:54:10,100 --> 01:54:12,100
we have to put skin in the game.

2907
01:54:12,100 --> 01:54:14,100
the question is whether it's at

2908
01:54:14,100 --> 01:54:17,100
appropriate skin for what is the

2909
01:54:17,100 --> 01:54:18,100
pay back.

2910
01:54:18,100 --> 01:54:21,601
I see here an opportunity, a

2911
01:54:29,100 --> 01:54:30,100
train coming down the road.

2912
01:54:30,100 --> 01:54:33,100
the guy making $75,000 with a

2913
01:54:34,100 --> 01:54:36,100
family of four won't be able to

2914
01:54:36,100 --> 01:54:37,100
buy them.

2915
01:54:37,100 --> 01:54:39,100
we will have to then come back

2916
01:54:39,100 --> 01:54:41,100
and waeufbt conditions we set in

2917
01:54:41,100 --> 01:54:42,100
place.

2918
01:54:42,100 --> 01:54:43,100
I'm afraid that will happen down

2919
01:54:43,100 --> 01:54:44,100
the road.

2920
01:54:44,100 --> 01:54:46,100
>> so I understand where you're

2921
01:54:46,100 --> 01:54:48,100
going as far as what the numbers

2922
01:54:48,100 --> 01:54:51,601
or what you want to see.

2923
01:54:52,100 --> 01:54:53,100
so, yes.

2924
01:54:53,100 --> 01:54:55,100
like you said we agree we have

2925
01:54:55,100 --> 01:54:57,100
to develop this property.

2926
01:54:57,100 --> 01:54:59,100
what goes on the property

2927
01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:01,100
obviously is what they propose.

2928
01:55:01,100 --> 01:55:05,801
how do we get to this point of

2929
01:55:06,100 --> 01:55:08,401
developing property if we're

2930
01:55:09,100 --> 01:55:11,100
still stuck on the three year,

2931
01:55:11,100 --> 01:55:12,100
ten year, thirty year.

2932
01:55:12,100 --> 01:55:13,100
I understand that.

2933
01:55:13,100 --> 01:55:16,100
we have developments in sunrise

2934
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:17,100
one, two, three, four.

2935
01:55:17,100 --> 01:55:19,100
phase four and three you can't

2936
01:55:19,100 --> 01:55:20,100
rent.

2937
01:55:20,100 --> 01:55:21,100
like you said.

2938
01:55:21,100 --> 01:55:22,100
two you can rent.

2939
01:55:22,100 --> 01:55:23,100
one you can rent is.

2940
01:55:23,100 --> 01:55:24,100
it going to be ten years from

2941
01:55:24,100 --> 01:55:26,100
now when phase three decides,

2942
01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:28,100
you know we need to start

2943
01:55:28,100 --> 01:55:30,100
renting too. I don't know.

2944
01:55:30,100 --> 01:55:34,100
I am not trying to stop a

2945
01:55:34,100 --> 01:55:36,100
development that we have been

2946
01:55:36,100 --> 01:55:38,100
waiting for that we paid for a

2947
01:55:38,100 --> 01:55:41,100
study and we have someone who, I

2948
01:55:41,100 --> 01:55:43,100
am saying we went out to bid.

2949
01:55:43,100 --> 01:55:46,100
we got different people to put

2950
01:55:46,100 --> 01:55:47,100
in what they thought was going

2951
01:55:47,100 --> 01:55:50,100
to be in this site.

2952
01:55:50,100 --> 01:55:52,100
then we have other sites on the

2953
01:55:52,100 --> 01:55:55,100
east side we would love to redo.

2954
01:55:55,100 --> 01:55:57,100
>> I'm not trying to kill this.

2955
01:55:57,100 --> 01:55:59,100
>> no --

2956
01:56:00,100 --> 01:56:02,100
>> the questions.

2957
01:56:02,100 --> 01:56:05,100
>> for me to understand what is

2958
01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:07,100
it that staff has to do or they

2959
01:56:07,100 --> 01:56:11,100
have to do that will make a -- I

2960
01:56:11,100 --> 01:56:13,100
don't care if it's that.

2961
01:56:13,100 --> 01:56:14,100
it has nothing to do with them.

2962
01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:17,100
I don't care who the person is.

2963
01:56:17,100 --> 01:56:19,100
I don't care if you pick artesia

2964
01:56:19,100 --> 01:56:22,100
to say I will blast 18 things

2965
01:56:22,100 --> 01:56:23,100
and do it in a year.

2966
01:56:23,100 --> 01:56:26,100
I don't care, who ever it is I

2967
01:56:26,100 --> 01:56:28,100
want them to do it I just don't

2968
01:56:28,100 --> 01:56:31,100
know if doing these restrictions

2969
01:56:31,100 --> 01:56:34,100
and why he's doing the

2970
01:56:35,100 --> 01:56:36,100
restrictions.

2971
01:56:36,100 --> 01:56:38,100
if we pick him as a developer or

2972
01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:40,100
anyone as a developer and say

2973
01:56:40,100 --> 01:56:42,401
we're building 28 units then

2974
01:56:43,100 --> 01:56:44,100
build 28 units.

2975
01:56:44,100 --> 01:56:45,100
if you want to do affordable you

2976
01:56:45,100 --> 01:56:48,100
have to come up with a formula.

2977
01:56:48,100 --> 01:56:51,100
70% to 8% of income so someone

2978
01:56:51,100 --> 01:56:53,401
making 70,000 going for a

2979
01:56:54,100 --> 01:56:56,100
regular mortgage may not qualify

2980
01:56:56,100 --> 01:56:58,100
for a 400,000-dollar house.

2981
01:56:58,100 --> 01:56:59,100
I don't know.

2982
01:56:59,100 --> 01:57:01,100
they come up with the formulas

2983
01:57:01,100 --> 01:57:02,100
and restrictions.

2984
01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:04,100
does that help someone.

2985
01:57:04,100 --> 01:57:06,401
>> they can't afford it.

2986
01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:10,100
>> let me get to my thought.

2987
01:57:10,100 --> 01:57:13,100
you picked this way to do this

2988
01:57:13,100 --> 01:57:14,100
with the deed restrictions

2989
01:57:14,100 --> 01:57:16,100
because that is what you have to

2990
01:57:16,100 --> 01:57:17,100
do?

2991
01:57:17,100 --> 01:57:18,100
>> it wasn't our idea.

2992
01:57:18,100 --> 01:57:21,100
that was the staff's idea.

2993
01:57:22,100 --> 01:57:23,100
>> okay.

2994
01:57:23,100 --> 01:57:24,100
>> if you're selling a unit for

2995
01:57:24,100 --> 01:57:25,100
350,000.

2996
01:57:25,100 --> 01:57:28,601
the max is 420,000 why not just

2997
01:57:29,100 --> 01:57:30,100
build 28 units and first come

2998
01:57:30,100 --> 01:57:32,100
first serve?

2999
01:57:32,100 --> 01:57:34,100
if we did that then the people

3000
01:57:34,100 --> 01:57:36,100
would come to us and say you're

3001
01:57:36,100 --> 01:57:38,100
not doing anything affordable

3002
01:57:38,100 --> 01:57:40,100
for the people on the east side.

3003
01:57:40,100 --> 01:57:42,100
>> the flex units are suppose to

3004
01:57:42,100 --> 01:57:44,100
be affordable.

3005
01:57:44,100 --> 01:57:46,100
>> no, this is what I'm saying.

3006
01:57:46,100 --> 01:57:48,100
this is what I'm saying.

3007
01:57:48,100 --> 01:57:51,100
we're caught, look when I sat on

3008
01:57:51,100 --> 01:57:54,100
the region planning council it

3009
01:57:55,100 --> 01:57:56,100
was the same thing.

3010
01:57:56,100 --> 01:57:59,100
figuring the units, flex units,

3011
01:58:00,100 --> 01:58:01,100
switching.

3012
01:58:01,100 --> 01:58:02,100
parkland was like I don't want

3013
01:58:02,100 --> 01:58:03,100
affordable.

3014
01:58:03,100 --> 01:58:04,100
you can't do that.

3015
01:58:04,100 --> 01:58:06,100
everyone has to have affordable.

3016
01:58:06,100 --> 01:58:08,100
weston and them.

3017
01:58:08,100 --> 01:58:10,100
this is the problem we had back

3018
01:58:10,100 --> 01:58:11,100
then.

3019
01:58:11,100 --> 01:58:12,100
so, I don't know what the median

3020
01:58:12,100 --> 01:58:14,100
is to get to an agreement.

3021
01:58:14,100 --> 01:58:17,601
>> I would like to continue this

3022
01:58:18,100 --> 01:58:19,100
discussion with staff.

3023
01:58:19,100 --> 01:58:22,100
I won't vote on it.

3024
01:58:22,100 --> 01:58:23,100
>> I don't care if we vote.

3025
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:25,100
where are we going?

3026
01:58:25,100 --> 01:58:27,100
>> we have --

3027
01:58:29,100 --> 01:58:31,100
>> what are we trying to get

3028
01:58:31,100 --> 01:58:32,100
staff and them to do?

3029
01:58:32,100 --> 01:58:35,100
soy understand to make a

3030
01:58:35,100 --> 01:58:36,100
project.

3031
01:58:36,100 --> 01:58:37,100
a project.

3032
01:58:37,100 --> 01:58:38,100
not their project.

3033
01:58:38,100 --> 01:58:40,100
a project.

3034
01:58:40,100 --> 01:58:41,100
>> I won't back myself in a

3035
01:58:41,100 --> 01:58:45,201
corner where I have to flush it

3036
01:58:46,100 --> 01:58:48,100
out here with staff tonight.

3037
01:58:48,100 --> 01:58:50,100
I asked direct questions.

3038
01:58:50,100 --> 01:58:51,100
he answered them.

3039
01:58:51,100 --> 01:58:53,100
the questions that I don't think

3040
01:58:53,100 --> 01:58:54,100
staff is in a position to

3041
01:58:54,100 --> 01:58:55,100
answer.

3042
01:58:55,100 --> 01:58:56,100
he answered them.

3043
01:58:56,100 --> 01:58:58,100
as a result I can't support this

3044
01:58:58,100 --> 01:58:59,100
tonight.

3045
01:58:59,100 --> 01:59:01,100
there are five of us.

3046
01:59:01,100 --> 01:59:02,100
>> let me khoeupl in.

3047
01:59:02,100 --> 01:59:05,100
>> I am just trying to figure

3048
01:59:05,100 --> 01:59:08,100
out what is it, is it deed

3049
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:10,100
restrictions that is the

3050
01:59:10,100 --> 01:59:11,100
problem?

3051
01:59:11,100 --> 01:59:12,100
that's what I'm trying to find

3052
01:59:12,100 --> 01:59:13,100
out?

3053
01:59:13,100 --> 01:59:14,100
>> I don't think necessarily the

3054
01:59:14,100 --> 01:59:16,100
deed restrictions are the

3055
01:59:16,100 --> 01:59:18,100
problem or not the problem.

3056
01:59:18,100 --> 01:59:20,100
I don't want to weight in on it

3057
01:59:20,100 --> 01:59:22,100
I want to flush it out it could

3058
01:59:22,100 --> 01:59:24,100
be there ought to be a deed

3059
01:59:24,100 --> 01:59:25,100
restriction.

3060
01:59:25,100 --> 01:59:26,100
>> on all of them.

3061
01:59:26,100 --> 01:59:27,100
>> I'm not say that.

3062
01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:28,100
>> I'm saying.

3063
01:59:28,100 --> 01:59:30,401
>> but the compression issue.

3064
01:59:32,100 --> 01:59:34,100
some are winners, some are lose

3065
01:59:34,100 --> 01:59:35,100
s are.

3066
01:59:35,100 --> 01:59:37,100
>> he's saying those that are

3067
01:59:37,100 --> 01:59:39,100
unrestricted he can get more

3068
01:59:39,100 --> 01:59:41,100
money for them.

3069
01:59:41,100 --> 01:59:42,100
why wouldn't he want more money

3070
01:59:42,100 --> 01:59:44,401
and mutt more unrestricted.

3071
01:59:45,100 --> 01:59:47,100
you have to have restricted

3072
01:59:47,100 --> 01:59:48,100
because of the affordable

3073
01:59:48,100 --> 01:59:49,100
housing component?

3074
01:59:49,100 --> 01:59:50,100
>> some it.

3075
01:59:50,100 --> 01:59:51,100
it's complicated.

3076
01:59:51,100 --> 01:59:52,100
that was the agreement we made

3077
01:59:52,100 --> 01:59:54,100
with staff.

3078
01:59:54,100 --> 01:59:57,100
they were concerned that we

3079
01:59:58,100 --> 02:00:01,100
would price it out of the range

3080
02:00:01,100 --> 02:00:03,100
of the neighborhood.

3081
02:00:03,100 --> 02:00:04,100
fyi too.

3082
02:00:04,100 --> 02:00:07,100
you can look on zillow or

3083
02:00:07,100 --> 02:00:08,100
realtor.com.

3084
02:00:08,100 --> 02:00:10,100
the houses in this mediate

3085
02:00:10,100 --> 02:00:12,100
neighborhood are selling in the

3086
02:00:12,100 --> 02:00:14,401
2s and 3*z now.

3087
02:00:15,100 --> 02:00:17,100
some are cracking over the 3*z.

3088
02:00:17,100 --> 02:00:18,100
prices are going up and they're

3089
02:00:18,100 --> 02:00:20,100
getting to mid 3s for some,

3090
02:00:20,100 --> 02:00:22,401
presumably those fixed up.

3091
02:00:23,100 --> 02:00:25,100
I mean a great thing would

3092
02:00:25,100 --> 02:00:28,100
happen if someone gets priced

3093
02:00:29,100 --> 02:00:30,100
out of this particular

3094
02:00:30,100 --> 02:00:32,100
neighborhood because they didn't

3095
02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:34,100
want to pay the premium for a

3096
02:00:34,100 --> 02:00:36,100
new house think about what

3097
02:00:36,100 --> 02:00:37,100
happens.

3098
02:00:37,100 --> 02:00:38,100
the dynamics of the housing

3099
02:00:38,100 --> 02:00:39,100
market.

3100
02:00:39,100 --> 02:00:40,100
they g they can go to the next

3101
02:00:40,100 --> 02:00:43,100
block, literally and buy a house

3102
02:00:43,100 --> 02:00:44,100
for a hundred thousand dollars

3103
02:00:44,100 --> 02:00:45,100
less.

3104
02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:46,100
they can fix it up.

3105
02:00:46,100 --> 02:00:48,100
that's exactly what you want to

3106
02:00:48,100 --> 02:00:49,100
happen.

3107
02:00:49,100 --> 02:00:50,100
>> I don't know if you have an

3108
02:00:50,100 --> 02:00:51,100
answer to the question.

3109
02:00:51,100 --> 02:00:54,601
I will go back to it.

3110
02:00:56,100 --> 02:00:58,100
how do we enforce, assuming we

3111
02:00:58,100 --> 02:01:00,100
did a deed restriction with a

3112
02:01:00,100 --> 02:01:01,100
differential.

3113
02:01:01,100 --> 02:01:02,100
>> sure.

3114
02:01:02,100 --> 02:01:03,100
>> how do we enforce it ten

3115
02:01:03,100 --> 02:01:06,100
years from now with respect to

3116
02:01:06,100 --> 02:01:09,100
those fourteen locked in for 30

3117
02:01:09,100 --> 02:01:10,100
years.

3118
02:01:10,100 --> 02:01:12,100
ten years from now joe blow

3119
02:01:12,100 --> 02:01:14,100
comes and wants to buy.

3120
02:01:14,100 --> 02:01:17,100
>> oh you're address six, you're

3121
02:01:18,100 --> 02:01:20,100
the 30 year guy.

3122
02:01:23,100 --> 02:01:24,100
who enforces it?

3123
02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:25,100
title?

3124
02:01:25,100 --> 02:01:29,100
the city goes in and says every

3125
02:01:29,100 --> 02:01:31,100
sale taking place we check.

3126
02:01:31,100 --> 02:01:34,100
I don't expect you to baby sit.

3127
02:01:34,100 --> 02:01:36,100
who does the monitoring to make

3128
02:01:36,100 --> 02:01:40,100
sure the guy who hustles on the

3129
02:01:40,100 --> 02:01:43,100
side to make 50,000 more, or

3130
02:01:43,100 --> 02:01:46,100
however he shifts the income.

3131
02:01:47,100 --> 02:01:49,100
okay to get that house you can

3132
02:01:49,100 --> 02:01:51,100
only say you make this amount.

3133
02:01:51,100 --> 02:01:53,100
how do you see that.

3134
02:01:53,100 --> 02:01:55,100
>> fare question, commissioner

3135
02:01:55,100 --> 02:01:56,100
douglas.

3136
02:01:56,100 --> 02:01:57,100
what has happened.

3137
02:01:57,100 --> 02:02:01,801
the town can talk to the city of

3138
02:02:02,100 --> 02:02:04,100
delray and jupiter.

3139
02:02:05,100 --> 02:02:06,100
those are two place wez have

3140
02:02:06,100 --> 02:02:08,100
done this, there maybe one more.

3141
02:02:08,100 --> 02:02:09,100
in delray particularly you have

3142
02:02:09,100 --> 02:02:11,100
the deed restriction on there.

3143
02:02:11,100 --> 02:02:12,100
okay.

3144
02:02:12,100 --> 02:02:14,100
write the deed restriction.

3145
02:02:14,100 --> 02:02:16,100
it basically says there is a

3146
02:02:16,100 --> 02:02:19,100
sign off from the city.

3147
02:02:19,100 --> 02:02:20,100
okay.

3148
02:02:20,100 --> 02:02:24,100
it basically says we meet and in

3149
02:02:24,100 --> 02:02:26,100
compliance --

3150
02:02:26,100 --> 02:02:27,100
>> they do that.

3151
02:02:27,100 --> 02:02:30,100
>> -- it's a simple thing.

3152
02:02:31,100 --> 02:02:33,100
what the city does.

3153
02:02:33,100 --> 02:02:34,100
they're not looking for money

3154
02:02:34,100 --> 02:02:35,100
under the table.

3155
02:02:35,100 --> 02:02:36,100
they're looking at the tax

3156
02:02:36,100 --> 02:02:37,100
return.

3157
02:02:37,100 --> 02:02:38,100
>> if you lie to the federal

3158
02:02:38,100 --> 02:02:40,401
government you know that's

3159
02:02:41,100 --> 02:02:42,100
between you and the federal

3160
02:02:42,100 --> 02:02:43,100
government.

3161
02:02:43,100 --> 02:02:45,100
they have to assume everyone is

3162
02:02:45,100 --> 02:02:46,100
honest.

3163
02:02:46,100 --> 02:02:47,100
you have to show the tax return

3164
02:02:47,100 --> 02:02:49,100
and say this is a eligible

3165
02:02:49,100 --> 02:02:50,100
buyer.

3166
02:02:50,100 --> 02:02:53,601
before you can close the sale,

3167
02:02:54,100 --> 02:02:56,100
the buyer will have a sign off.

3168
02:02:56,100 --> 02:02:58,100
someone has to get the sign off.

3169
02:02:58,100 --> 02:03:00,100
the real estate broker will come

3170
02:03:00,100 --> 02:03:02,100
in and say here is the tax

3171
02:03:02,100 --> 02:03:03,100
return.

3172
02:03:03,100 --> 02:03:06,100
you know john and mary want to

3173
02:03:06,100 --> 02:03:10,201
sell it to, to someone and they

3174
02:03:17,100 --> 02:03:20,100
have to see the tax return.

3175
02:03:20,100 --> 02:03:22,100
>> it's up to you guys to

3176
02:03:22,100 --> 02:03:23,100
control thaplt.

3177
02:03:23,100 --> 02:03:25,100
>> alright.

3178
02:03:26,100 --> 02:03:27,100
[inaudible]

3179
02:03:27,100 --> 02:03:28,100
>> I asked a question, I got the

3180
02:03:28,100 --> 02:03:29,100
answer.

3181
02:03:29,100 --> 02:03:30,100
I'm sure it's useful for my

3182
02:03:30,100 --> 02:03:32,100
colleagues too. Again there are

3183
02:03:32,100 --> 02:03:34,100
questions which I don't want to

3184
02:03:34,100 --> 02:03:36,100
sit here tonight and try to

3185
02:03:36,100 --> 02:03:37,100
flush it out with you.

3186
02:03:37,100 --> 02:03:39,100
I'm sure you are answering my

3187
02:03:39,100 --> 02:03:41,100
questions in good faith.

3188
02:03:41,100 --> 02:03:43,100
we have four appraisals to do.

3189
02:03:43,100 --> 02:03:45,100
I don't know --

3190
02:03:45,100 --> 02:03:47,100
>>

3191
02:03:49,100 --> 02:03:50,100
>> just a second.

3192
02:03:50,100 --> 02:03:52,100
what I hear is that you don't

3193
02:03:52,100 --> 02:03:54,100
want to go forward tonight.

3194
02:03:54,100 --> 02:03:56,401
assistant deputy mayor doesn't

3195
02:03:59,100 --> 02:04:00,100
and the mayor.

3196
02:04:00,100 --> 02:04:02,100
I hear the majority of the

3197
02:04:02,100 --> 02:04:03,100
commission.

3198
02:04:03,100 --> 02:04:04,100
I think someone wants to make a

3199
02:04:04,100 --> 02:04:05,100
motion to table.

3200
02:04:05,100 --> 02:04:07,100
before that I haven't opened

3201
02:04:07,100 --> 02:04:08,100
this up to public comment.

3202
02:04:08,100 --> 02:04:10,100
do I need to do that before a

3203
02:04:10,100 --> 02:04:11,100
motion is made since we have

3204
02:04:11,100 --> 02:04:14,100
done this? I don't --

3205
02:04:20,100 --> 02:04:23,100
>> since you're not voting on it

3206
02:04:23,100 --> 02:04:25,100
you can just motion to table it

3207
02:04:25,100 --> 02:04:27,100
without public hearing.

3208
02:04:28,100 --> 02:04:30,100
next time it comes up it's first

3209
02:04:30,100 --> 02:04:31,100
reading begin and you have

3210
02:04:31,100 --> 02:04:32,100
public comment.

3211
02:04:32,100 --> 02:04:34,100
>> so we are putting it on the

3212
02:04:34,100 --> 02:04:36,100
agenda for the next meeting.

3213
02:04:36,100 --> 02:04:38,100
will everyone have questions

3214
02:04:38,100 --> 02:04:39,100
answered?

3215
02:04:39,100 --> 02:04:41,100
or are we just getting rid of

3216
02:04:41,100 --> 02:04:42,100
the developer and going out to

3217
02:04:42,100 --> 02:04:43,100
bid again?

3218
02:04:43,100 --> 02:04:44,100
I don't understand.

3219
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:46,100
>> I don't want to be pressed

3220
02:04:46,100 --> 02:04:50,100
into -- it came up the last

3221
02:04:50,100 --> 02:04:51,100
time.

3222
02:04:51,100 --> 02:04:53,100
I have.

3223
02:04:56,100 --> 02:04:57,100
[inaudible]

3224
02:04:57,100 --> 02:05:01,201
I don't want to flush this out

3225
02:05:02,100 --> 02:05:03,100
here.

3226
02:05:03,100 --> 02:05:04,100
I don't know if it will be

3227
02:05:04,100 --> 02:05:05,100
answered the next meeting.

3228
02:05:05,100 --> 02:05:09,201
>> I don't want to bring up next

3229
02:05:10,100 --> 02:05:12,100
meeting and we're not ready to

3230
02:05:12,100 --> 02:05:14,100
vote on it are we going out to

3231
02:05:14,100 --> 02:05:15,100
bid again.

3232
02:05:15,100 --> 02:05:17,100
so, next meeting is enough time.

3233
02:05:17,100 --> 02:05:19,100
>> I don't want to force myself

3234
02:05:19,100 --> 02:05:20,100
into the corner.

3235
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:22,100
we have the budget.

3236
02:05:22,100 --> 02:05:24,100
I don't know if I will be

3237
02:05:24,100 --> 02:05:25,100
prepared to deal with.

3238
02:05:25,100 --> 02:05:27,100
procedurally however the

3239
02:05:28,100 --> 02:05:30,100
commission, what is the will of

3240
02:05:30,100 --> 02:05:31,100
the commission.

3241
02:05:31,100 --> 02:05:34,100
I don't I won't move to table it

3242
02:05:34,100 --> 02:05:37,100
so it comes next meeting.

3243
02:05:37,100 --> 02:05:39,100
>> you want it put off

3244
02:05:39,100 --> 02:05:40,100
indefinitely?

3245
02:05:40,100 --> 02:05:42,100
>> that's not what I want.

3246
02:05:42,100 --> 02:05:44,100
>> I will motion to table this.

3247
02:05:44,100 --> 02:05:46,100
>> I want to recognize mayor

3248
02:05:46,100 --> 02:05:47,100
ryan.

3249
02:05:47,100 --> 02:05:49,401
>> thank you, deputy mayor.

3250
02:05:50,100 --> 02:05:52,100
I want to be cleared.

3251
02:05:52,100 --> 02:05:54,100
I think the questions raised are

3252
02:05:54,100 --> 02:05:55,100
relevant.

3253
02:05:55,100 --> 02:05:57,100
the balance of deed

3254
02:05:57,100 --> 02:05:58,100
restrictions.

3255
02:05:58,100 --> 02:05:59,100
I want to give staff credit

3256
02:05:59,100 --> 02:06:00,100
here.

3257
02:06:00,100 --> 02:06:01,100
they have been incredibly

3258
02:06:01,100 --> 02:06:03,100
aggressive in trying to maintain

3259
02:06:03,100 --> 02:06:05,100
affordable housing.

3260
02:06:06,100 --> 02:06:09,100
commissioner scuotto, this is a

3261
02:06:15,100 --> 02:06:17,100
great opportunity.

3262
02:06:17,100 --> 02:06:19,401
I recognize as commissioner

3263
02:06:20,100 --> 02:06:23,100
scuotto said and support what he

3264
02:06:23,100 --> 02:06:26,100
said, at some level yes we are

3265
02:06:26,100 --> 02:06:29,100
likely, if it turns out to the

3266
02:06:29,100 --> 02:06:31,100
move of the commission we will

3267
02:06:31,100 --> 02:06:34,100
sell the property less than the

3268
02:06:34,100 --> 02:06:36,100
appraised value.

3269
02:06:36,100 --> 02:06:38,100
we're trying to prime the pump.

3270
02:06:38,100 --> 02:06:40,100
that's the issue.

3271
02:06:40,100 --> 02:06:42,100
the city is stepping in where

3272
02:06:42,100 --> 02:06:45,100
the private market hasn't yet

3273
02:06:46,100 --> 02:06:48,401
been able to recognize.

3274
02:06:50,100 --> 02:06:52,100
we're hopeful if there is an

3275
02:06:52,100 --> 02:06:54,100
investment by city it will

3276
02:06:54,100 --> 02:06:56,100
generate benefits.

3277
02:06:56,100 --> 02:06:58,100
as pointed out it may well

3278
02:06:58,100 --> 02:07:00,100
create opportunities and

3279
02:07:00,100 --> 02:07:02,100
neighborhood surrounding the

3280
02:07:02,100 --> 02:07:03,100
area.

3281
02:07:03,100 --> 02:07:06,100
I did want to move forward at

3282
02:07:06,100 --> 02:07:07,100
some level.

3283
02:07:07,100 --> 02:07:09,100
I extend the courtesy.

3284
02:07:09,100 --> 02:07:11,100
think the questions raised and

3285
02:07:11,100 --> 02:07:13,100
accept commissioner douglas has

3286
02:07:13,100 --> 02:07:15,100
many other questions he doesn't

3287
02:07:15,100 --> 02:07:17,100
want to flush out tonight.

3288
02:07:17,100 --> 02:07:19,100
I know he will, I'm confident he

3289
02:07:19,100 --> 02:07:22,601
will do that with great vigor

3290
02:07:23,100 --> 02:07:25,401
with straf and otherwise.

3291
02:07:26,100 --> 02:07:29,100
a better product for all of sus

3292
02:07:29,100 --> 02:07:30,100
a result of the continued

3293
02:07:30,100 --> 02:07:31,100
effort.

3294
02:07:31,100 --> 02:07:32,100
I want to move forward.

3295
02:07:32,100 --> 02:07:34,100
I think it's fair to the

3296
02:07:34,100 --> 02:07:35,100
developer.

3297
02:07:35,100 --> 02:07:36,100
I think it's fair to staff we

3298
02:07:36,100 --> 02:07:38,100
try to create a time line.

3299
02:07:38,100 --> 02:07:39,100
the next meet is noting until

3300
02:07:39,100 --> 02:07:41,100
the middle of september.

3301
02:07:41,100 --> 02:07:43,100
I recognize we have budget and

3302
02:07:43,100 --> 02:07:44,100
other things.

3303
02:07:44,100 --> 02:07:45,100
we are good at walking and

3304
02:07:45,100 --> 02:07:46,100
chewing gum.

3305
02:07:46,100 --> 02:07:48,100
I'm not trying to be trite or

3306
02:07:48,100 --> 02:07:50,100
short on it would I support

3307
02:07:50,100 --> 02:07:52,401
commissioner scuotto's motion to

3308
02:07:54,100 --> 02:07:55,100
table and second for the next

3309
02:07:55,100 --> 02:07:56,100
meeting.

3310
02:07:56,100 --> 02:07:58,100
as we have always done and we

3311
02:07:58,100 --> 02:07:59,100
have been mindful of our

3312
02:07:59,100 --> 02:08:01,100
colleagues much like I started

3313
02:08:01,100 --> 02:08:03,401
my comments it beginning.

3314
02:08:04,100 --> 02:08:07,601
I'm prepared to move forward on

3315
02:08:08,100 --> 02:08:11,100
a first reading and prepared to

3316
02:08:11,100 --> 02:08:13,100
vote on a first reading

3317
02:08:13,100 --> 02:08:14,100
understanding more needs to be

3318
02:08:14,100 --> 02:08:15,100
done.

3319
02:08:15,100 --> 02:08:16,100
I wouldn't want to press that as

3320
02:08:16,100 --> 02:08:18,401
a courtesy to colleagues.

3321
02:08:19,100 --> 02:08:20,100
I would like to table this for

3322
02:08:20,100 --> 02:08:22,100
the next meeting.

3323
02:08:22,100 --> 02:08:23,100
>> I agree.

3324
02:08:23,100 --> 02:08:24,100
>> I make a motion.

3325
02:08:24,100 --> 02:08:26,100
you want to speak, neil.

3326
02:08:26,100 --> 02:08:28,100
>> no, I will save it for later.

3327
02:08:28,100 --> 02:08:31,100
I agree with the motion.

3328
02:08:31,100 --> 02:08:33,100
>> motion to table it for the

3329
02:08:33,100 --> 02:08:34,100
next meeting.

3330
02:08:34,100 --> 02:08:35,100
>> second.

3331
02:08:35,100 --> 02:08:36,100
>> could we clarify

3332
02:08:36,100 --> 02:08:37,100
september 14th.

3333
02:08:37,100 --> 02:08:39,100
because the september 13th

3334
02:08:39,100 --> 02:08:42,100
meeting is just budget items.

3335
02:08:42,100 --> 02:08:43,100
>> okay september 14th.

3336
02:08:43,100 --> 02:08:45,100
>> 5:00 o'clock.

3337
02:08:45,100 --> 02:08:46,100
>> at 5:00 o'clock.

3338
02:08:46,100 --> 02:08:48,100
>> a motion by commissioner

3339
02:08:48,100 --> 02:08:50,100
scuotto to table.

3340
02:08:50,100 --> 02:08:52,100
a second by commissioner

3341
02:08:52,100 --> 02:08:53,100
douglas.

3342
02:08:53,100 --> 02:08:54,100
is that correct.

3343
02:08:54,100 --> 02:08:55,100
>> I second.

3344
02:08:55,100 --> 02:08:56,100
>> all in favor.

3345
02:08:56,100 --> 02:08:57,100
>> I.

3346
02:08:57,100 --> 02:08:59,100
>> opposed.

3347
02:08:59,100 --> 02:09:02,100
anyone opposed ? 5-0 on the

3348
02:09:02,100 --> 02:09:03,100
motion to table.

3349
02:09:03,100 --> 02:09:05,100
>> thank you.

3350
02:09:16,100 --> 02:09:18,100
>> if I have questions over the

3351
02:09:18,100 --> 02:09:20,100
past month, staff k I contact

3352
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:21,100
him?

3353
02:09:21,100 --> 02:09:22,100
>> that's fine.

3354
02:09:22,100 --> 02:09:23,100
>> okay.

3355
02:09:23,100 --> 02:09:24,100
>> I am happy to meet with any

3356
02:09:24,100 --> 02:09:26,100
of you individually.

3357
02:09:26,100 --> 02:09:27,100
if you want to look at the

3358
02:09:27,100 --> 02:09:30,100
proforma or numbers I'm happy.

3359
02:09:31,100 --> 02:09:32,100
any of the five commissioners.

3360
02:09:32,100 --> 02:09:34,100
>> appreciate the offer.

3361
02:09:34,100 --> 02:09:35,100
>> thank you.

3362
02:09:35,100 --> 02:09:38,100
>> deputy mayor f I may, I

3363
02:09:38,100 --> 02:09:40,100
forgot your last name, I want to

3364
02:09:40,100 --> 02:09:41,100
thank you.

3365
02:09:41,100 --> 02:09:42,100
you answered all of the

3366
02:09:42,100 --> 02:09:43,100
questions.

3367
02:09:43,100 --> 02:09:45,100
you acknowledged the merits, I

3368
02:09:45,100 --> 02:09:47,100
have enjoyed this presentation.

3369
02:09:47,100 --> 02:09:49,100
I look forward to see you in

3370
02:09:49,100 --> 02:09:50,100
september.

3371
02:09:50,100 --> 02:09:52,401
>> thank you, mr. Hernandez.

3372
02:10:05,100 --> 02:10:08,601
>> let's go to old business 16a.

3373
02:10:12,100 --> 02:10:14,100
a resolution of the city of

3374
02:10:14,100 --> 02:10:16,100
sunrise, florida, a pro*fp

3375
02:10:16,100 --> 02:10:18,100
proving project agreement

3376
02:10:18,100 --> 02:10:20,100
between the city of sunrise and

3377
02:10:20,100 --> 02:10:23,100
hazen and schwaer pc, for

3378
02:10:24,100 --> 02:10:26,100
project agreement --

3379
02:10:26,100 --> 02:10:27,100
>> move it.

3380
02:10:27,100 --> 02:10:28,100
>> motion by commissioner

3381
02:10:28,100 --> 02:10:30,100
scuotto.

3382
02:10:30,100 --> 02:10:31,100
>> second.

3383
02:10:31,100 --> 02:10:33,100
>> second by assistant deputy

3384
02:10:33,100 --> 02:10:34,100
mayor.

3385
02:10:34,100 --> 02:10:36,100
any public hearing?

3386
02:10:39,100 --> 02:10:42,100
>> any comment by my colleagues.

3387
02:10:44,100 --> 02:10:46,100
I think, sorry.

3388
02:10:46,100 --> 02:10:49,601
my contacts are in today having

3389
02:10:50,100 --> 02:10:51,100
a hard time.

3390
02:10:51,100 --> 02:10:55,201
mr. Lubelski has a intro for the

3391
02:10:58,100 --> 02:10:59,100
matter.

3392
02:10:59,100 --> 02:11:00,100
>> thank you.

3393
02:11:00,100 --> 02:11:01,100
there was discussion regarding

3394
02:11:01,100 --> 02:11:03,100
potential acquisition.

3395
02:11:06,100 --> 02:11:08,100
at that point staff provided a

3396
02:11:08,100 --> 02:11:10,401
detailed schedule and cost

3397
02:11:11,100 --> 02:11:13,401
estimate prior to proceeding

3398
02:11:14,100 --> 02:11:16,401
with a consultant agreement.

3399
02:11:18,100 --> 02:11:21,100
in july I provided a schedule.

3400
02:11:21,100 --> 02:11:24,100
the schedule was prepared by

3401
02:11:25,100 --> 02:11:27,100
city staff, outside council.

3402
02:11:27,100 --> 02:11:30,100
the acquisition schedule and s.

3403
02:11:30,100 --> 02:11:32,100
two faces.

3404
02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:34,100
upon approval of the agreements

3405
02:11:34,100 --> 02:11:35,100
phase one will take

3406
02:11:35,100 --> 02:11:36,100
approximately eight months and

3407
02:11:36,100 --> 02:11:38,100
consist of in depth

3408
02:11:38,100 --> 02:11:40,100
consolidation study and rate

3409
02:11:40,100 --> 02:11:41,100
study.

3410
02:11:41,100 --> 02:11:44,100
upon completion of phase one we

3411
02:11:44,100 --> 02:11:46,100
will develop acquisition

3412
02:11:47,100 --> 02:11:49,100
options, commence negotiations

3413
02:11:50,100 --> 02:11:51,100
if appropriate.

3414
02:11:51,100 --> 02:11:53,401
phase one requires significant

3415
02:11:54,100 --> 02:11:56,100
investment for feasibility of

3416
02:11:56,100 --> 02:11:58,100
acquisition.

3417
02:11:58,100 --> 02:12:00,100
y val aations and rate study are

3418
02:12:00,100 --> 02:12:02,100
needed to determine if it's

3419
02:12:02,100 --> 02:12:04,100
feats I believe for either

3420
02:12:04,100 --> 02:12:05,100
party.

3421
02:12:05,100 --> 02:12:06,100
it's critical that he we are

3422
02:12:06,100 --> 02:12:09,100
form the adequate due diligent

3423
02:12:09,100 --> 02:12:10,100
to determine the appraised

3424
02:12:10,100 --> 02:12:13,100
value, lifecycle and costs to

3425
02:12:14,100 --> 02:12:16,100
repair, replace is sustain

3426
02:12:16,100 --> 02:12:17,100
assets.

3427
02:12:17,100 --> 02:12:20,601
further more toy value and apply

3428
02:12:21,100 --> 02:12:24,100
synergies to be project the

3429
02:12:24,100 --> 02:12:26,100
through the con sol stkaeugs of

3430
02:12:26,100 --> 02:12:29,100
city of sunrise and town.

3431
02:12:31,100 --> 02:12:33,100
if the phase one analysis

3432
02:12:33,100 --> 02:12:34,100
determines this is not feasible

3433
02:12:34,100 --> 02:12:36,100
a phase one optimal

3434
02:12:36,100 --> 02:12:38,100
administration, optional

3435
02:12:38,100 --> 02:12:40,100
administration and operational

3436
02:12:40,100 --> 02:12:43,100
analysis will be brought back

3437
02:12:46,100 --> 02:12:47,100
for consideration.

3438
02:12:47,100 --> 02:12:49,100
this will include a examination

3439
02:12:49,100 --> 02:12:51,100
of staff and resources, work

3440
02:12:51,100 --> 02:12:53,100
loads to observe relative

3441
02:12:53,100 --> 02:12:55,401
impacts, advantages and critical

3442
02:12:56,100 --> 02:12:57,100
concerns.

3443
02:12:57,100 --> 02:12:59,100
as stated earlier we will

3444
02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:01,401
develop acquisition options and

3445
02:13:02,100 --> 02:13:04,100
request formal authorizations

3446
02:13:04,100 --> 02:13:06,401
and commence if appropriate.

3447
02:13:07,100 --> 02:13:09,100
this requires a significant

3448
02:13:09,100 --> 02:13:10,100
investment.

3449
02:13:10,100 --> 02:13:12,100
the item before you tonight is

3450
02:13:12,100 --> 02:13:13,100
the project agreement for the

3451
02:13:13,100 --> 02:13:16,100
consulting services with a water

3452
02:13:18,100 --> 02:13:20,100
and waste water design for

3453
02:13:20,100 --> 02:13:23,100
technical due diligent steps for

3454
02:13:23,100 --> 02:13:24,100
phase one.

3455
02:13:24,100 --> 02:13:26,100
-- completed the master plan

3456
02:13:26,100 --> 02:13:28,100
update and has significant

3457
02:13:28,100 --> 02:13:31,100
amount of knowledge of the

3458
02:13:31,100 --> 02:13:32,100
utility system.

3459
02:13:32,100 --> 02:13:34,100
a separate agreement will be

3460
02:13:34,100 --> 02:13:36,100
repraeurd with the utility

3461
02:13:36,100 --> 02:13:38,100
financial consistent and

3462
02:13:38,100 --> 02:13:41,601
submitted as a separate item in

3463
02:13:42,100 --> 02:13:45,601
a future city meeting -- in

3464
02:13:46,100 --> 02:13:48,100
support of a transaction.

3465
02:13:48,100 --> 02:13:50,100
I'm available to answer

3466
02:13:50,100 --> 02:13:52,100
questions regarding this item.

3467
02:13:52,100 --> 02:13:53,100
>> thank you.

3468
02:13:53,100 --> 02:13:54,100
discussion among colleagues.

3469
02:13:54,100 --> 02:13:55,100
>> yes.

3470
02:13:55,100 --> 02:13:57,100
>> commissioner scuotto.

3471
02:13:58,100 --> 02:14:00,100
>> I want to say this is

3472
02:14:00,100 --> 02:14:01,100
probably one of the biggest

3473
02:14:01,100 --> 02:14:03,100
purchase that's this city has

3474
02:14:03,100 --> 02:14:04,100
ever made.

3475
02:14:04,100 --> 02:14:07,601
a water and waste water system.

3476
02:14:13,100 --> 02:14:14,100
it's not like you're buying just

3477
02:14:14,100 --> 02:14:17,100
a car and you get to drive it.

3478
02:14:17,100 --> 02:14:20,100
this is a system we're buying

3479
02:14:20,100 --> 02:14:21,100
and maintaining it for the rest

3480
02:14:21,100 --> 02:14:23,100
of our lives.

3481
02:14:25,100 --> 02:14:28,100
seems like the city of davie

3482
02:14:28,100 --> 02:14:31,100
months ago already had their

3483
02:14:31,100 --> 02:14:33,100
mootings with their mayor and

3484
02:14:33,100 --> 02:14:36,601
five missioners all filled out a

3485
02:14:37,100 --> 02:14:40,100
card whether they want to

3486
02:14:40,100 --> 02:14:43,100
rebuild their systems, how many

3487
02:14:43,100 --> 02:14:45,100
years it would take to build the

3488
02:14:45,100 --> 02:14:47,100
system or just go ahead and let

3489
02:14:47,100 --> 02:14:50,100
sunrise take over the system.

3490
02:14:50,100 --> 02:14:53,601
in that reading it was 5-0.

3491
02:14:54,100 --> 02:14:56,100
5-0.

3492
02:14:56,100 --> 02:14:57,100
let sunrise take over the

3493
02:14:57,100 --> 02:14:58,100
system.

3494
02:14:58,100 --> 02:15:02,100
so now davie is doing a study

3495
02:15:02,100 --> 02:15:04,100
like we are.

3496
02:15:05,100 --> 02:15:06,100
their study is totally

3497
02:15:06,100 --> 02:15:07,100
different.

3498
02:15:07,100 --> 02:15:11,100
their study is how much is our

3499
02:15:11,100 --> 02:15:13,100
stuff worth.

3500
02:15:13,100 --> 02:15:14,100
literally nothing.

3501
02:15:14,100 --> 02:15:15,100
I'm sorry.

3502
02:15:15,100 --> 02:15:17,100
that's the whole study.

3503
02:15:17,100 --> 02:15:19,100
how much can we get from

3504
02:15:19,100 --> 02:15:20,100
sunrise.

3505
02:15:20,100 --> 02:15:23,100
our study is the total opposite.

3506
02:15:23,100 --> 02:15:25,100
we have to go through the whole

3507
02:15:25,100 --> 02:15:28,100
system and figure out how much

3508
02:15:28,100 --> 02:15:29,100
it will cost.

3509
02:15:29,100 --> 02:15:32,100
obviously davie didn't do it.

3510
02:15:32,100 --> 02:15:34,100
because they figured how much it

3511
02:15:34,100 --> 02:15:36,100
will cost to redo the entire

3512
02:15:36,100 --> 02:15:40,201
system - the cost of fixing the

3513
02:15:56,100 --> 02:15:57,100
infrastructure if it's

3514
02:15:57,100 --> 02:15:59,100
deteriorated or not.

3515
02:15:59,100 --> 02:16:03,201
so, I mean it's just -- the

3516
02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:07,100
first time being up here to

3517
02:16:07,100 --> 02:16:09,401
negotiate something like this

3518
02:16:13,100 --> 02:16:14,100
where you're buying something

3519
02:16:14,100 --> 02:16:15,100
from another city.

3520
02:16:15,100 --> 02:16:18,100
agreeing they don't want it

3521
02:16:29,100 --> 02:16:30,100
anymore.

3522
02:16:30,100 --> 02:16:32,100
whether it's bad planning, bad

3523
02:16:32,100 --> 02:16:34,100
rebuilding, rehabbing.

3524
02:16:34,100 --> 02:16:37,100
so, I jut want to make sure that

3525
02:16:37,100 --> 02:16:40,601
you know hayes and swayer doing

3526
02:16:43,100 --> 02:16:44,100
the study for us.

3527
02:16:44,100 --> 02:16:46,100
they know our system.

3528
02:16:46,100 --> 02:16:48,100
I want to make sure this is the

3529
02:16:48,100 --> 02:16:50,100
money that we're paying

3530
02:16:50,100 --> 02:16:52,100
substantial amount of money to

3531
02:16:52,100 --> 02:16:54,100
do this study that it's the

3532
02:16:54,100 --> 02:16:56,100
study of a lifetime that we want

3533
02:16:56,100 --> 02:16:59,100
to make sure we get all and most

3534
02:16:59,100 --> 02:17:01,401
and correct information because

3535
02:17:05,100 --> 02:17:06,100
buying a system like this.

3536
02:17:06,100 --> 02:17:08,100
we know when we approve water

3537
02:17:08,100 --> 02:17:11,601
and waste water projects in our

3538
02:17:12,100 --> 02:17:14,100
own city it's not like a

3539
02:17:14,100 --> 02:17:16,100
50,000-dollar project.

3540
02:17:16,100 --> 02:17:18,100
it's continue million, eight

3541
02:17:18,100 --> 02:17:20,100
million, seven million.

3542
02:17:20,100 --> 02:17:23,100
we have 10% of davy right now.

3543
02:17:23,100 --> 02:17:25,401
right now we provide 10%.

3544
02:17:31,100 --> 02:17:33,100
we would bye the 40% left.

3545
02:17:33,100 --> 02:17:35,100
I want to make sure when you buy

3546
02:17:35,100 --> 02:17:38,100
something first dibs usually you

3547
02:17:39,100 --> 02:17:42,100
buy the first 60 because it was

3548
02:17:42,100 --> 02:17:43,100
good.

3549
02:17:43,100 --> 02:17:44,100
I want to make sure we're

3550
02:17:44,100 --> 02:17:46,100
spending the money the right

3551
02:17:46,100 --> 02:17:47,100
way.

3552
02:17:47,100 --> 02:17:48,100
I don't want to buy 40% of

3553
02:17:48,100 --> 02:17:50,401
something something on going.

3554
02:17:56,100 --> 02:17:59,100
yes we have to pit money in, yes

3555
02:17:59,100 --> 02:18:00,100
we have to tie it into our

3556
02:18:00,100 --> 02:18:01,100
system.

3557
02:18:01,100 --> 02:18:03,100
maybe there are ways to shut

3558
02:18:03,100 --> 02:18:05,100
down part of our system.

3559
02:18:05,100 --> 02:18:07,100
our system can handle it.

3560
02:18:07,100 --> 02:18:10,601
I'm just saying to hays and

3561
02:18:12,100 --> 02:18:16,100
swayer do not put us in a bad

3562
02:18:16,100 --> 02:18:18,100
situation.

3563
02:18:25,100 --> 02:18:28,601
>> we have faith in hayes and

3564
02:18:33,100 --> 02:18:36,100
swayer I have to put my faith in

3565
02:18:36,100 --> 02:18:39,601
mr. Welch, rodrigo and the rest.

3566
02:18:44,100 --> 02:18:45,100
someone in the audience out

3567
02:18:45,100 --> 02:18:47,100
there working on the things day

3568
02:18:47,100 --> 02:18:50,100
to day please everybody be

3569
02:18:51,100 --> 02:18:53,100
watching for this.

3570
02:18:53,100 --> 02:18:55,100
this is something major that

3571
02:18:55,100 --> 02:18:57,100
we're going to take over.

3572
02:18:57,100 --> 02:19:00,100
I definitely do not want

3573
02:19:01,100 --> 02:19:02,100
something in the tens of

3574
02:19:02,100 --> 02:19:05,100
millions of dollars to bite us

3575
02:19:05,100 --> 02:19:06,100
later on.

3576
02:19:06,100 --> 02:19:08,100
I wanted to put that out there.

3577
02:19:08,100 --> 02:19:09,100
thank you.

3578
02:19:09,100 --> 02:19:10,100
>> commissioner douglas.

3579
02:19:10,100 --> 02:19:12,401
>> obviously I share my

3580
02:19:14,100 --> 02:19:16,401
colleagues concerns and have

3581
02:19:19,100 --> 02:19:21,100
discuss it did with the city

3582
02:19:21,100 --> 02:19:22,100
manager.

3583
02:19:22,100 --> 02:19:24,100
I imagine our consultants

3584
02:19:24,100 --> 02:19:27,100
without being told would shoot

3585
02:19:28,100 --> 02:19:29,100
straight with us.

3586
02:19:29,100 --> 02:19:30,100
I want to say it would be a

3587
02:19:30,100 --> 02:19:32,100
concern for all of us.

3588
02:19:32,100 --> 02:19:35,100
sunrise is a major regional

3589
02:19:37,100 --> 02:19:39,401
water utility because some

3590
02:19:40,100 --> 02:19:42,100
people who have sat here before

3591
02:19:42,100 --> 02:19:45,601
us made bold decisions about I

3592
02:19:51,100 --> 02:19:53,100
object vesting in a utility

3593
02:19:53,100 --> 02:19:54,100
system.

3594
02:19:54,100 --> 02:19:55,100
some don't have their on water.

3595
02:19:55,100 --> 02:19:57,100
westop and others buying from

3596
02:19:57,100 --> 02:19:58,100
us.

3597
02:19:58,100 --> 02:19:59,100
we have enough for our sells and

3598
02:19:59,100 --> 02:20:01,100
we sell to others.

3599
02:20:01,100 --> 02:20:04,100
that was a bold move.

3600
02:20:07,100 --> 02:20:10,601
we have a perming of funding.

3601
02:20:11,100 --> 02:20:13,401
operating budget each year.

3602
02:20:14,100 --> 02:20:15,100
which obviously if you have

3603
02:20:15,100 --> 02:20:18,601
fixed costs and fixed or certain

3604
02:20:24,100 --> 02:20:27,100
revenues coming in, a enterprise

3605
02:20:28,100 --> 02:20:29,100
system.

3606
02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:32,100
it reduced the need to tax

3607
02:20:32,100 --> 02:20:34,100
residents more to get the amount

3608
02:20:34,100 --> 02:20:36,100
of dollars you need to run the

3609
02:20:36,100 --> 02:20:37,100
budget.

3610
02:20:37,100 --> 02:20:40,100
so, I certainly would want to be

3611
02:20:40,100 --> 02:20:42,100
on the bold side in pursuing

3612
02:20:42,100 --> 02:20:43,100
this.

3613
02:20:43,100 --> 02:20:44,100
obviously I wouldn't move

3614
02:20:44,100 --> 02:20:47,100
forward if the numbers don't

3615
02:20:48,100 --> 02:20:49,100
make sense.

3616
02:20:49,100 --> 02:20:52,100
I want the numbers to come back

3617
02:20:52,100 --> 02:20:55,100
in a way that even the babys can

3618
02:20:55,100 --> 02:20:58,100
see it makes as soon as.

3619
02:20:58,100 --> 02:20:59,100
it ought not to be something

3620
02:20:59,100 --> 02:21:02,601
that we need to be technical,

3621
02:21:05,100 --> 02:21:08,100
have technical skills to figure

3622
02:21:08,100 --> 02:21:09,100
it out.

3623
02:21:09,100 --> 02:21:13,100
he who pays the piper plays the

3624
02:21:13,100 --> 02:21:14,100
tune.

3625
02:21:14,100 --> 02:21:16,100
I do know there are opportunity

3626
02:21:16,100 --> 02:21:18,100
costs associated with taking one

3627
02:21:18,100 --> 02:21:20,100
decision versus another.

3628
02:21:21,100 --> 02:21:24,100
I expect that economies of scale

3629
02:21:24,100 --> 02:21:27,100
may of played a roll in how

3630
02:21:27,100 --> 02:21:29,100
davie made a decision.

3631
02:21:29,100 --> 02:21:32,100
if you have something as

3632
02:21:34,100 --> 02:21:37,100
significant as a water utility,

3633
02:21:37,100 --> 02:21:39,100
significant infrastructure

3634
02:21:39,100 --> 02:21:41,100
required without the

3635
02:21:41,100 --> 02:21:42,100
opportunities to grow it doesn't

3636
02:21:42,100 --> 02:21:44,100
make s-ps to make the further

3637
02:21:44,100 --> 02:21:46,100
invest hadn't.

3638
02:21:46,100 --> 02:21:48,100
I presume given we have the

3639
02:21:48,100 --> 02:21:50,100
scale already that we could

3640
02:21:50,100 --> 02:21:53,100
achieve some economies of that

3641
02:21:53,100 --> 02:21:54,100
scale.

3642
02:21:54,100 --> 02:21:56,100
if we were to buy them.

3643
02:21:56,100 --> 02:21:59,100
where we co-op rate at a lower

3644
02:21:59,100 --> 02:22:00,100
cost and they could based on

3645
02:22:00,100 --> 02:22:02,100
tieing what we already have.

3646
02:22:02,100 --> 02:22:05,601
of course there is the unlocking

3647
02:22:12,100 --> 02:22:13,100
of selling for x.

3648
02:22:13,100 --> 02:22:15,100
a lot of value to unlock if do

3649
02:22:15,100 --> 02:22:16,100
you it the right way.

3650
02:22:16,100 --> 02:22:19,100
I'm quite prepared to ex lore

3651
02:22:19,100 --> 02:22:22,100
this and hopefully beyond the

3652
02:22:23,100 --> 02:22:25,100
right side of history when

3653
02:22:25,100 --> 02:22:28,100
someone talks about whether it

3654
02:22:28,100 --> 02:22:31,100
was the right thing to do to

3655
02:22:31,100 --> 02:22:32,100
prefer sue this opportunity.

3656
02:22:32,100 --> 02:22:36,100
so, I am prepared to support at

3657
02:22:36,100 --> 02:22:38,401
least this initial phase.

3658
02:22:39,100 --> 02:22:41,100
>> assistant deputy mayor.

3659
02:22:43,100 --> 02:22:45,100
>> yes, thank you.

3660
02:22:46,100 --> 02:22:48,100
I'm conflicted on this.

3661
02:22:48,100 --> 02:22:50,100
a gree with you both.

3662
02:22:50,100 --> 02:22:52,100
think it's a good opportunity.

3663
02:22:52,100 --> 02:22:54,100
I feel it's a lot of money for

3664
02:22:54,100 --> 02:22:55,100
phase one.

3665
02:22:55,100 --> 02:22:56,100
we don't know what phase two

3666
02:22:56,100 --> 02:22:59,100
looks like if we move forward.

3667
02:22:59,100 --> 02:23:02,100
also feel like we have our own

3668
02:23:02,100 --> 02:23:04,100
inhouse things that are needd in

3669
02:23:04,100 --> 02:23:05,100
that department.

3670
02:23:05,100 --> 02:23:07,100
where I feel we need to take

3671
02:23:07,100 --> 02:23:09,100
care of our own people first

3672
02:23:09,100 --> 02:23:10,100
before we fix outside.

3673
02:23:10,100 --> 02:23:12,100
I know that there are a number

3674
02:23:12,100 --> 02:23:14,100
of things that need to be

3675
02:23:14,100 --> 02:23:17,100
upgraded or things expected or

3676
02:23:17,100 --> 02:23:19,100
we need to get in our own city.

3677
02:23:19,100 --> 02:23:22,100
I feel like before we invest on

3678
02:23:22,100 --> 02:23:24,100
all, if we should be able to

3679
02:23:24,100 --> 02:23:25,100
look at ours first.

3680
02:23:25,100 --> 02:23:27,100
>> if that makes sense to you.

3681
02:23:27,100 --> 02:23:30,100
so, that's where I feel on that

3682
02:23:30,100 --> 02:23:32,100
particular situation.

3683
02:23:32,100 --> 02:23:34,100
do you have an idea what phase

3684
02:23:34,100 --> 02:23:35,100
two looks like.

3685
02:23:35,100 --> 02:23:38,100
or is that out of the question

3686
02:23:38,100 --> 02:23:39,100
right now?

3687
02:23:39,100 --> 02:23:42,100
>> the phase two costs, we have

3688
02:23:42,100 --> 02:23:44,100
not identified the phase two

3689
02:23:44,100 --> 02:23:48,100
costs on it I believe that the

3690
02:23:48,100 --> 02:23:50,100
consulting engineering component

3691
02:23:51,100 --> 02:23:54,100
the majority is phase one moving

3692
02:23:54,100 --> 02:23:55,100
forward.

3693
02:23:55,100 --> 02:23:57,100
I don't expect there to be a

3694
02:23:57,100 --> 02:23:58,100
significant cost from the

3695
02:23:58,100 --> 02:24:00,100
consulting engineer.

3696
02:24:01,100 --> 02:24:03,100
there be other cots in phase two

3697
02:24:03,100 --> 02:24:04,100
if we move forward with

3698
02:24:04,100 --> 02:24:05,100
acquisition.

3699
02:24:05,100 --> 02:24:07,401
that is consultants, financial

3700
02:24:09,100 --> 02:24:11,100
and bond consultants.

3701
02:24:11,100 --> 02:24:13,100
there will be probably limited

3702
02:24:13,100 --> 02:24:16,100
amounts from hayes and swayer

3703
02:24:20,100 --> 02:24:21,100
phase two.

3704
02:24:21,100 --> 02:24:24,100
a large part of the heavy

3705
02:24:24,100 --> 02:24:26,100
lifting is phase one analysis of

3706
02:24:26,100 --> 02:24:27,100
this.

3707
02:24:27,100 --> 02:24:29,100
we need to do that true analysis

3708
02:24:29,100 --> 02:24:31,401
to make educated recommendations

3709
02:24:32,100 --> 02:24:33,100
to the commission whether to

3710
02:24:33,100 --> 02:24:35,100
proceed regarding assistant

3711
02:24:42,100 --> 02:24:44,100
deputy mayor's concern we

3712
02:24:44,100 --> 02:24:45,100
completed the master plan.

3713
02:24:45,100 --> 02:24:47,100
there is work to do with the

3714
02:24:47,100 --> 02:24:48,100
master plan.

3715
02:24:48,100 --> 02:24:49,100
however the work is not ind

3716
02:24:49,100 --> 02:24:50,100
noted of this.

3717
02:24:50,100 --> 02:24:52,100
we will implement the master

3718
02:24:52,100 --> 02:24:53,100
plan requirements along with

3719
02:24:53,100 --> 02:24:55,401
this phase one analysis.

3720
02:24:57,100 --> 02:25:00,100
we're confident we can do that.

3721
02:25:00,100 --> 02:25:02,100
we realize we have a lot of work

3722
02:25:02,100 --> 02:25:03,100
to do.

3723
02:25:03,100 --> 02:25:04,100
if the commission moves forward

3724
02:25:04,100 --> 02:25:06,100
we're capable of handling it.

3725
02:25:06,100 --> 02:25:07,100
>> mayor ryan.

3726
02:25:07,100 --> 02:25:08,100
>> thank you.

3727
02:25:08,100 --> 02:25:11,100
first of all I congratulate my

3728
02:25:11,100 --> 02:25:14,601
colleagues on the effort and the

3729
02:25:15,100 --> 02:25:18,100
vision as stated in multiple

3730
02:25:18,100 --> 02:25:20,100
meetings including this one as

3731
02:25:20,100 --> 02:25:23,601
well as what, this faces as

3732
02:25:24,100 --> 02:25:27,100
commissioner douglas says is a

3733
02:25:27,100 --> 02:25:28,100
bold decision this.

3734
02:25:28,100 --> 02:25:30,100
is an opportunity worth eve

3735
02:25:30,100 --> 02:25:32,100
investment.

3736
02:25:32,100 --> 02:25:35,100
I am concerns based on the

3737
02:25:35,100 --> 02:25:37,401
assistant deputy mayor's points

3738
02:25:38,100 --> 02:25:40,100
raised are you telling us that

3739
02:25:40,100 --> 02:25:43,100
the investment in this analysis

3740
02:25:43,100 --> 02:25:46,100
is not going to compromise

3741
02:25:46,100 --> 02:25:48,100
operations or investment in

3742
02:25:48,100 --> 02:25:50,100
operations or some how we're not

3743
02:25:50,100 --> 02:25:53,100
taken care of at home while we

3744
02:25:53,100 --> 02:25:55,100
divert funds to the analysis.

3745
02:25:55,100 --> 02:25:57,100
I want to be clear.

3746
02:25:57,100 --> 02:25:58,100
that's a serious concern.

3747
02:25:58,100 --> 02:26:01,100
>> excellent point brought up by

3748
02:26:01,100 --> 02:26:03,100
you and assistant deputy mayor.

3749
02:26:03,100 --> 02:26:05,100
we're confident we can deliver

3750
02:26:05,100 --> 02:26:07,100
the master plan and requirements

3751
02:26:07,100 --> 02:26:09,100
of the master plan and lofty

3752
02:26:09,100 --> 02:26:11,100
goals of the master plan even

3753
02:26:11,100 --> 02:26:14,100
moving forward with the analysis

3754
02:26:14,100 --> 02:26:16,100
with the acquisition.

3755
02:26:16,100 --> 02:26:18,401
>> I'm supportive, no further

3756
02:26:19,100 --> 02:26:20,100
comments.

3757
02:26:20,100 --> 02:26:21,100
>> I'm also supportive.

3758
02:26:21,100 --> 02:26:23,100
we need to have this information

3759
02:26:23,100 --> 02:26:25,100
to make informed decisions going

3760
02:26:25,100 --> 02:26:27,100
forward on this acquisition.

3761
02:26:27,100 --> 02:26:29,100
we need to know the value of the

3762
02:26:29,100 --> 02:26:31,100
condition.

3763
02:26:32,100 --> 02:26:35,100
I think it's, if it comes out

3764
02:26:35,100 --> 02:26:37,100
right we will look like rock

3765
02:26:37,100 --> 02:26:38,100
stars.

3766
02:26:38,100 --> 02:26:41,100
I'm hoping it comes out right.

3767
02:26:41,100 --> 02:26:43,100
any further comments from

3768
02:26:43,100 --> 02:26:44,100
colleagues?

3769
02:26:44,100 --> 02:26:45,100
call the question.

3770
02:26:45,100 --> 02:26:46,100
>> commissioner douglas.

3771
02:26:46,100 --> 02:26:47,100
>> yes.

3772
02:26:47,100 --> 02:26:49,100
>> assistant deputy mayor.

3773
02:26:49,100 --> 02:26:50,100
>> yes,.

3774
02:26:50,100 --> 02:26:51,100
>> deputy mayor.

3775
02:26:51,100 --> 02:26:52,100
>> yes,.

3776
02:26:52,100 --> 02:26:54,100
>> commissioner scuotto.

3777
02:26:55,100 --> 02:26:56,100
>> yes.

3778
02:26:56,100 --> 02:26:57,100
>> mayor ryan.

3779
02:26:57,100 --> 02:26:58,100
>> yes.

3780
02:26:58,100 --> 02:27:00,100
>> item passes 5-0.

3781
02:27:05,100 --> 02:27:06,100
>> new business.

3782
02:27:06,100 --> 02:27:08,100
17a.

3783
02:27:09,100 --> 02:27:10,100
license plate readers.

3784
02:27:10,100 --> 02:27:11,100
commission discussion and or

3785
02:27:11,100 --> 02:27:13,100
action regarding automated

3786
02:27:15,100 --> 02:27:17,100
license plate readers.

3787
02:27:17,100 --> 02:27:19,401
commissioner joseph a.scuotto.

3788
02:27:21,100 --> 02:27:22,100
>> thank you, commissioner.

3789
02:27:22,100 --> 02:27:25,100
each of us I guess a couple of

3790
02:27:25,100 --> 02:27:28,100
weeks ago each met with the saw

3791
02:27:28,100 --> 02:27:30,100
grass mills mall.

3792
02:27:30,100 --> 02:27:33,100
I think we each met individually

3793
02:27:33,100 --> 02:27:35,100
regarding what they were talking

3794
02:27:35,100 --> 02:27:38,601
about, what the county wanted to

3795
02:27:40,100 --> 02:27:42,100
do at saw grass with the trans

3796
02:27:42,100 --> 02:27:43,100
or station hub and whatever

3797
02:27:43,100 --> 02:27:44,100
else.

3798
02:27:44,100 --> 02:27:47,100
so at that meeting I just

3799
02:27:47,100 --> 02:27:49,100
happened to be chatting with

3800
02:27:49,100 --> 02:27:50,100
them afterwards.

3801
02:27:50,100 --> 02:27:53,100
started to talk about you know

3802
02:27:53,100 --> 02:27:54,100
security at the mall and

3803
02:27:54,100 --> 02:27:56,100
different things like that about

3804
02:27:56,100 --> 02:27:58,100
the mall.

3805
02:27:59,100 --> 02:28:00,100
I asked them about the license

3806
02:28:00,100 --> 02:28:01,100
plate readers.

3807
02:28:01,100 --> 02:28:03,100
I said how many security

3808
02:28:03,100 --> 02:28:06,100
vehicles do you have out at the

3809
02:28:06,100 --> 02:28:07,100
mall.

3810
02:28:07,100 --> 02:28:09,100
I think they said six or eight

3811
02:28:09,100 --> 02:28:10,100
security vehicles.

3812
02:28:10,100 --> 02:28:12,100
that two of the security

3813
02:28:12,100 --> 02:28:14,100
vehicles had license plate

3814
02:28:14,100 --> 02:28:16,100
readers on them.

3815
02:28:17,100 --> 02:28:19,100
soy just started to talk to them

3816
02:28:19,100 --> 02:28:21,100
in general about if they were

3817
02:28:21,100 --> 02:28:24,601
interested in you know like if

3818
02:28:25,100 --> 02:28:28,100
the city wanted to expand that.

3819
02:28:28,100 --> 02:28:30,100
would they be interested in I

3820
02:28:30,100 --> 02:28:32,100
know putting more on the

3821
02:28:32,100 --> 02:28:33,100
vehicles.

3822
02:28:33,100 --> 02:28:35,100
you know like that.

3823
02:28:35,100 --> 02:28:37,100
a random conversation with them.

3824
02:28:37,100 --> 02:28:41,100
I get a lost cops that come into

3825
02:28:41,100 --> 02:28:43,100
my restaurant.

3826
02:28:43,100 --> 02:28:47,100
this was probably I want to say

3827
02:28:47,100 --> 02:28:49,100
maybe eight months maybe more

3828
02:28:49,100 --> 02:28:50,100
than that, ago.

3829
02:28:50,100 --> 02:28:52,100
they were telling me they just

3830
02:28:52,100 --> 02:28:54,100
met with, met with, they were

3831
02:28:54,100 --> 02:28:56,100
meeting with someone about

3832
02:28:56,100 --> 02:28:59,100
putting more readers in the

3833
02:28:59,100 --> 02:29:01,100
city.

3834
02:29:01,100 --> 02:29:05,201
so, I was just listening to what

3835
02:29:06,100 --> 02:29:07,100
they had to say.

3836
02:29:07,100 --> 02:29:09,100
how they say it's helped them

3837
02:29:09,100 --> 02:29:10,100
solve crimes and different

3838
02:29:10,100 --> 02:29:11,100
things like that. I just started

3839
02:29:11,100 --> 02:29:13,100
to ask the chief and get

3840
02:29:13,100 --> 02:29:15,401
information about the license

3841
02:29:16,100 --> 02:29:18,100
plate reader.

3842
02:29:18,100 --> 02:29:20,100
I started to say have we, you

3843
02:29:20,100 --> 02:29:23,100
know, we have some in the city.

3844
02:29:23,100 --> 02:29:25,100
I said if something has happened

3845
02:29:25,100 --> 02:29:27,100
in the city have we used lauder

3846
02:29:27,100 --> 02:29:28,100
hill readers.

3847
02:29:28,100 --> 02:29:30,401
their answer was yes.

3848
02:29:32,100 --> 02:29:35,100
the county has installed them at

3849
02:29:35,100 --> 02:29:37,100
m. Park because of the gun

3850
02:29:37,100 --> 02:29:38,100
range.

3851
02:29:38,100 --> 02:29:39,100
one way in, one way out.

3852
02:29:39,100 --> 02:29:42,601
there are readers in this park

3853
02:29:47,100 --> 02:29:48,100
in sunrise.

3854
02:29:48,100 --> 02:29:50,100
I asked how is there a way we

3855
02:29:50,100 --> 02:29:52,100
would be able to figure out if

3856
02:29:52,100 --> 02:29:53,100
the mayor or commission.

3857
02:29:53,100 --> 02:29:55,100
if I brought this up.

3858
02:29:55,100 --> 02:29:56,100
if we want to expand on this.

3859
02:29:56,100 --> 02:29:59,100
so there are different linings

3860
02:30:03,100 --> 02:30:06,601
like that. People have asked for

3861
02:30:08,100 --> 02:30:12,201
money, asked how to fund it I

3862
02:30:13,100 --> 02:30:16,601
just wanted to bring this up.

3863
02:30:17,100 --> 02:30:19,401
ft. Lauderdale has whatever.

3864
02:30:28,100 --> 02:30:30,100
lauder hill has over 200.

3865
02:30:30,100 --> 02:30:32,100
I don't know the number we have,

3866
02:30:32,100 --> 02:30:36,801
but to me as a outsider, to help

3867
02:30:37,100 --> 02:30:41,100
the police to solve I just think

3868
02:30:41,100 --> 02:30:44,100
these are very I straouplt al.

3869
02:30:44,100 --> 02:30:47,100
that is my personal opinion.

3870
02:30:47,100 --> 02:30:49,100
would I bring the chief up if he

3871
02:30:49,100 --> 02:30:52,100
has -- I just want to ask him a

3872
02:30:52,100 --> 02:30:53,100
few questions regarding it.

3873
02:30:53,100 --> 02:30:56,100
>> chief rosa, come on up.

3874
02:30:58,100 --> 02:30:59,100
>> we have the red light

3875
02:30:59,100 --> 02:31:00,100
cameras.

3876
02:31:00,100 --> 02:31:02,100
I know red light cameras are

3877
02:31:02,100 --> 02:31:04,100
touchy for a lot of people.

3878
02:31:04,100 --> 02:31:06,100
even previous commissioners

3879
02:31:06,100 --> 02:31:07,100
before us.

3880
02:31:07,100 --> 02:31:10,100
I was trying to see how we could

3881
02:31:10,100 --> 02:31:13,100
afix these tag readers to things

3882
02:31:13,100 --> 02:31:17,100
that we don't have to pay for

3883
02:31:17,100 --> 02:31:20,100
costs when we already have.

3884
02:31:20,100 --> 02:31:21,100
so I'm trying to see.

3885
02:31:21,100 --> 02:31:25,201
I would have to talk to lubelski

3886
02:31:28,100 --> 02:31:30,100
to see if there are other things

3887
02:31:30,100 --> 02:31:34,201
we can mount the readers to, to

3888
02:31:35,100 --> 02:31:37,100
expand it.

3889
02:31:37,100 --> 02:31:39,100
chief, you no I brought this up.

3890
02:31:39,100 --> 02:31:42,100
I just, for the information,

3891
02:31:42,100 --> 02:31:46,201
this is no back up -- chief,

3892
02:32:15,100 --> 02:32:17,100
what wills can we do stpheplts a

3893
02:32:17,100 --> 02:32:19,100
couple of questions there.

3894
02:32:19,100 --> 02:32:20,100
I will start with what we

3895
02:32:20,100 --> 02:32:22,100
can'tly own or have ago assess

3896
02:32:22,100 --> 02:32:23,100
too.

3897
02:32:23,100 --> 02:32:25,100
the city owns eight cameras.

3898
02:32:25,100 --> 02:32:27,401
they're in zit configurations.

3899
02:32:28,100 --> 02:32:30,100
you mentioned the mall vehicles.

3900
02:32:30,100 --> 02:32:33,100
the city ons that camera.

3901
02:32:34,100 --> 02:32:36,100
they a sit us with hits moat

3902
02:32:36,100 --> 02:32:39,100
buying us when they get hits.

3903
02:32:39,100 --> 02:32:42,100
we also have four that are on

3904
02:32:42,100 --> 02:32:43,100
camera trailers.

3905
02:32:43,100 --> 02:32:46,100
portable trailers that we have.

3906
02:32:46,100 --> 02:32:49,100
we have two on speed trailers.

3907
02:32:49,100 --> 02:32:51,100
one fixed at thent raps at the

3908
02:32:51,100 --> 02:32:54,100
pd reporting traffic by there.

3909
02:32:54,100 --> 02:32:56,100
as far as the other ones within

3910
02:32:56,100 --> 02:33:00,201
the city so the mall has a

3911
02:33:02,100 --> 02:33:03,100
camera, that is mobile in the

3912
02:33:03,100 --> 02:33:04,100
mall parking lot.

3913
02:33:04,100 --> 02:33:07,100
this are two fixed cameras that

3914
02:33:07,100 --> 02:33:09,100
we have access to the data from

3915
02:33:09,100 --> 02:33:11,100
in the orange garage at the

3916
02:33:11,100 --> 02:33:12,100
mall.

3917
02:33:12,100 --> 02:33:15,601
then there is three cameras at

3918
02:33:17,100 --> 02:33:20,100
thent raps and exits capturing

3919
02:33:20,100 --> 02:33:24,100
the in and out traffic of the m.

3920
02:33:24,100 --> 02:33:25,100
park.

3921
02:33:25,100 --> 02:33:27,100
what we have now is a little

3922
02:33:27,100 --> 02:33:29,401
disjointed with varying levels

3923
02:33:31,100 --> 02:33:33,401
of access alerts and

3924
02:33:34,100 --> 02:33:36,100
accessibility to the cameras.

3925
02:33:36,100 --> 02:33:38,100
as far as where the cameras,

3926
02:33:38,100 --> 02:33:40,100
where we could add cameras.

3927
02:33:40,100 --> 02:33:41,100
there is a lot of different

3928
02:33:41,100 --> 02:33:44,100
option s available to us.

3929
02:33:45,100 --> 02:33:48,100
everything from using our light

3930
02:33:48,100 --> 02:33:51,100
poles, red light camera program

3931
02:33:51,100 --> 02:33:52,100
or identifying other poles

3932
02:33:52,100 --> 02:33:54,100
available in the city.

3933
02:33:54,100 --> 02:33:56,100
I don't know where those are or

3934
02:33:56,100 --> 02:33:57,100
what they are.

3935
02:33:57,100 --> 02:33:59,100
we may have to do research and

3936
02:33:59,100 --> 02:34:01,100
study based on what we want to

3937
02:34:01,100 --> 02:34:02,100
do.

3938
02:34:02,100 --> 02:34:04,401
>> what about the cost?

3939
02:34:14,100 --> 02:34:16,100
>> it varies greatly.

3940
02:34:19,100 --> 02:34:22,100
we have to identify a funding

3941
02:34:22,100 --> 02:34:24,100
source or in a different

3942
02:34:24,100 --> 02:34:25,100
scenario there could be findings

3943
02:34:25,100 --> 02:34:27,401
available through revenues city

3944
02:34:29,100 --> 02:34:30,100
is getting to the red light

3945
02:34:30,100 --> 02:34:31,100
cameras.

3946
02:34:31,100 --> 02:34:33,100
there is a cost to everything.

3947
02:34:33,100 --> 02:34:35,100
>> what is the cost for the

3948
02:34:35,100 --> 02:34:36,100
reader.

3949
02:34:36,100 --> 02:34:39,100
>> I can't answer the question.

3950
02:34:39,100 --> 02:34:43,201
>> how much is one on a car?

3951
02:35:00,100 --> 02:35:02,100
>> the cost is different for the

3952
02:35:02,100 --> 02:35:03,100
hardware and the service you

3953
02:35:03,100 --> 02:35:04,100
want.

3954
02:35:04,100 --> 02:35:06,100
it's variable.

3955
02:35:06,100 --> 02:35:07,100
>> the usefulness of the

3956
02:35:07,100 --> 02:35:08,100
readers.

3957
02:35:08,100 --> 02:35:09,100
are they useful to you.

3958
02:35:09,100 --> 02:35:11,100
>> very useful.

3959
02:35:11,100 --> 02:35:14,601
we -- parts of our investigative

3960
02:35:17,100 --> 02:35:20,100
process, you mention -- they

3961
02:35:20,100 --> 02:35:23,100
have the most robust programs,

3962
02:35:28,100 --> 02:35:31,100
lou derhill we initiate cases.

3963
02:35:34,100 --> 02:35:36,100
we use their system.

3964
02:35:36,100 --> 02:35:38,100
it's very valuable.

3965
02:35:38,100 --> 02:35:40,100
>> okay.

3966
02:35:42,100 --> 02:35:44,100
>> I just want to bring it up.

3967
02:35:44,100 --> 02:35:47,100
if this is something -- I would

3968
02:35:47,100 --> 02:35:51,100
like to know what the costs are

3969
02:35:51,100 --> 02:35:53,100
to see how we could, if it's the

3970
02:35:53,100 --> 02:35:55,100
will of the commission to

3971
02:35:55,100 --> 02:35:57,100
implement and get more.

3972
02:35:57,100 --> 02:35:58,100
to do it as a phase in.

3973
02:35:58,100 --> 02:36:01,601
years ago saw grass mill mall

3974
02:36:27,100 --> 02:36:30,601
was the number one stolen car

3975
02:36:31,100 --> 02:36:32,100
lot.

3976
02:36:32,100 --> 02:36:34,100
that's what we were known for

3977
02:36:34,100 --> 02:36:35,100
when it opened.

3978
02:36:35,100 --> 02:36:38,100
to me I just, knowing what from

3979
02:36:38,100 --> 02:36:41,601
the cops tell me from lauder

3980
02:36:42,100 --> 02:36:43,100
hill.

3981
02:36:43,100 --> 02:36:46,100
ft. Lauderdale tell me how much

3982
02:36:46,100 --> 02:36:49,601
it helps them, knowing we use

3983
02:37:01,100 --> 02:37:02,100
their equipment.

3984
02:37:02,100 --> 02:37:03,100
to protect people.

3985
02:37:03,100 --> 02:37:05,100
you have phase one, two, three,

3986
02:37:05,100 --> 02:37:06,100
four.

3987
02:37:06,100 --> 02:37:09,100
the main artery in and out of

3988
02:37:09,100 --> 02:37:10,100
those.

3989
02:37:10,100 --> 02:37:12,100
you either have to get out on

3990
02:37:12,100 --> 02:37:14,401
university, nob hill, pine

3991
02:37:15,100 --> 02:37:18,100
island, 115th, or open park

3992
02:37:19,100 --> 02:37:22,100
and 70th or whatever you call

3993
02:37:22,100 --> 02:37:23,100
that street.

3994
02:37:23,100 --> 02:37:24,100
you put six right there you can

3995
02:37:24,100 --> 02:37:26,100
protect whatever ten, fifteen

3996
02:37:26,100 --> 02:37:29,601
thousand people as far as having

3997
02:37:30,100 --> 02:37:33,100
a reading to cover that amount

3998
02:37:33,100 --> 02:37:35,100
of people.

3999
02:37:35,100 --> 02:37:38,100
then again that's where we get a

4000
02:37:38,100 --> 02:37:41,100
lot of people who prey on

4001
02:37:41,100 --> 02:37:42,100
elderly.

4002
02:37:42,100 --> 02:37:44,100
maybe some of those cars,

4003
02:37:44,100 --> 02:37:47,100
they're using as stolen that

4004
02:37:47,100 --> 02:37:50,100
prey on whatever they're robbing

4005
02:37:50,100 --> 02:37:52,401
the cars or whatever.

4006
02:37:54,100 --> 02:37:56,100
not saying we have high rates of

4007
02:37:56,100 --> 02:37:57,100
crime.

4008
02:37:57,100 --> 02:37:58,100
you don't need multiple

4009
02:37:58,100 --> 02:38:01,100
crimes -- one incident we had

4010
02:38:01,100 --> 02:38:03,100
this week went a shooting.

4011
02:38:03,100 --> 02:38:05,100
if he with had a camera

4012
02:38:05,100 --> 02:38:06,100
somewhere afixed.

4013
02:38:06,100 --> 02:38:08,100
a shopping center that partners

4014
02:38:08,100 --> 02:38:11,601
with us where every car has.

4015
02:38:15,100 --> 02:38:16,100
you get on the saw grass you

4016
02:38:16,100 --> 02:38:18,100
have the easy pass.

4017
02:38:18,100 --> 02:38:20,100
we have the sen pass here.

4018
02:38:20,100 --> 02:38:22,100
everywhere you drive it's

4019
02:38:22,100 --> 02:38:25,601
flicking to charge you by the

4020
02:38:27,100 --> 02:38:28,100
mate.

4021
02:38:28,100 --> 02:38:32,100
I can't see why this can't help

4022
02:38:32,100 --> 02:38:33,100
us solve --

4023
02:38:33,100 --> 02:38:35,100
>> commissioner scuotto.

4024
02:38:36,100 --> 02:38:37,100
>> yes.

4025
02:38:37,100 --> 02:38:39,100
>> can I interrupt for a second.

4026
02:38:39,100 --> 02:38:41,100
>> yes.

4027
02:38:43,100 --> 02:38:45,100
>> I completely support the

4028
02:38:45,100 --> 02:38:46,100
effort here.

4029
02:38:46,100 --> 02:38:47,100
would you be willing.

4030
02:38:47,100 --> 02:38:48,100
I would support a motion if

4031
02:38:48,100 --> 02:38:50,100
that's what you're I tended to

4032
02:38:50,100 --> 02:38:52,100
do to direct to the police

4033
02:38:52,100 --> 02:38:54,100
department to look at increasing

4034
02:38:54,100 --> 02:38:56,100
in either phased capacity or

4035
02:38:56,100 --> 02:38:58,100
otherwise particularly the

4036
02:38:58,100 --> 02:39:00,100
budget hearing upcoming the best

4037
02:39:00,100 --> 02:39:01,100
use of this.

4038
02:39:01,100 --> 02:39:03,100
I believe it's a powerful law

4039
02:39:03,100 --> 02:39:05,100
enforcement tool in the city and

4040
02:39:05,100 --> 02:39:06,100
cooperation with others through

4041
02:39:06,100 --> 02:39:08,100
the points you have raised.

4042
02:39:08,100 --> 02:39:10,100
perhaps we can find out if

4043
02:39:10,100 --> 02:39:11,100
others agree and the police

4044
02:39:11,100 --> 02:39:12,100
department can move forward.

4045
02:39:12,100 --> 02:39:14,100
we're not telling them where to

4046
02:39:14,100 --> 02:39:16,100
put it we can offer suggestions

4047
02:39:16,100 --> 02:39:18,100
but this is a great opportunity.

4048
02:39:18,100 --> 02:39:20,100
I appreciate you bringing this

4049
02:39:20,100 --> 02:39:22,100
forward.

4050
02:39:25,100 --> 02:39:27,100
>>

4051
02:39:27,100 --> 02:39:28,100
[inaudible]

4052
02:39:28,100 --> 02:39:29,100
>> this is where I'm going with

4053
02:39:29,100 --> 02:39:30,100
this.

4054
02:39:30,100 --> 02:39:31,100
the police chief was not able to

4055
02:39:31,100 --> 02:39:33,100
answer many of the details.

4056
02:39:33,100 --> 02:39:36,601
I suggest the police chief meets

4057
02:39:49,100 --> 02:39:50,100
with us individually and bring

4058
02:39:50,100 --> 02:39:51,100
it back.

4059
02:39:51,100 --> 02:39:53,100
I don't want to make a motion

4060
02:39:53,100 --> 02:39:56,100
and tkregt, go into town

4061
02:39:56,100 --> 02:39:57,100
without --

4062
02:39:57,100 --> 02:39:59,100
>> I didn't put it out there.

4063
02:39:59,100 --> 02:40:01,100
>> I'm not talking I'm

4064
02:40:01,100 --> 02:40:03,100
responding to the mayor to

4065
02:40:03,100 --> 02:40:05,100
direct him to move forward.

4066
02:40:05,100 --> 02:40:08,100
>> let me clarify, point of

4067
02:40:08,100 --> 02:40:09,100
order.

4068
02:40:09,100 --> 02:40:10,100
I didn't suggest move forward.

4069
02:40:10,100 --> 02:40:12,100
move forward for a study to the

4070
02:40:12,100 --> 02:40:13,100
commission.

4071
02:40:13,100 --> 02:40:15,100
that's all I suggested so we all

4072
02:40:15,100 --> 02:40:17,100
have it I don't disagree with

4073
02:40:17,100 --> 02:40:18,100
what you're saying.

4074
02:40:18,100 --> 02:40:20,100
I didn't suggest to go to town.

4075
02:40:20,100 --> 02:40:22,100
>> point of order.

4076
02:40:22,100 --> 02:40:24,100
you want to rule point of order,

4077
02:40:24,100 --> 02:40:26,100
mayor.

4078
02:40:27,100 --> 02:40:31,100
I don't know -- I'm just saying

4079
02:40:31,100 --> 02:40:34,100
I thinks it r. It's useful that

4080
02:40:34,100 --> 02:40:36,100
we all be briefed.

4081
02:40:36,100 --> 02:40:37,100
you have mentioned that there

4082
02:40:37,100 --> 02:40:39,100
are many ways this could be

4083
02:40:39,100 --> 02:40:40,100
done.

4084
02:40:40,100 --> 02:40:42,100
so come to us with framework

4085
02:40:42,100 --> 02:40:43,100
that you think is the most

4086
02:40:43,100 --> 02:40:44,100
effective.

4087
02:40:44,100 --> 02:40:46,100
meet with each of us.

4088
02:40:46,100 --> 02:40:48,100
then --

4089
02:40:49,100 --> 02:40:51,100
>> hear what everyone had to

4090
02:40:51,100 --> 02:40:52,100
say.

4091
02:40:52,100 --> 02:40:53,100
I didn't put action item.

4092
02:40:53,100 --> 02:40:55,100
I wanted to bring up.

4093
02:40:55,100 --> 02:40:56,100
it happened to be.

4094
02:40:56,100 --> 02:40:59,100
I met with the people from saw

4095
02:40:59,100 --> 02:41:00,100
grass mills mall.

4096
02:41:00,100 --> 02:41:01,100
I asked about the guy on the

4097
02:41:01,100 --> 02:41:02,100
roof.

4098
02:41:02,100 --> 02:41:06,201
I said, did he get driven there

4099
02:41:07,100 --> 02:41:08,100
or walk there.

4100
02:41:08,100 --> 02:41:09,100
then it lead into the reader.

4101
02:41:09,100 --> 02:41:11,100
>> I commend you bringing it

4102
02:41:11,100 --> 02:41:12,100
forward.

4103
02:41:12,100 --> 02:41:14,100
I don't think we have enough --

4104
02:41:14,100 --> 02:41:15,100
>> that's what I said.

4105
02:41:15,100 --> 02:41:17,100
>> gentlemen, let me give

4106
02:41:17,100 --> 02:41:20,100
commissioner g. A chance to

4107
02:41:20,100 --> 02:41:21,100
speak.

4108
02:41:21,100 --> 02:41:22,100
>> soy just briefly looked at

4109
02:41:22,100 --> 02:41:24,100
the rates.

4110
02:41:24,100 --> 02:41:26,100
15,000 to 30,000.

4111
02:41:26,100 --> 02:41:28,100
I don't know if that's accurate.

4112
02:41:28,100 --> 02:41:30,100
I'm supportive of it I do want

4113
02:41:30,100 --> 02:41:32,100
to know if there is a way to

4114
02:41:32,100 --> 02:41:34,100
find out.

4115
02:41:34,100 --> 02:41:36,100
-- I imagine they should know

4116
02:41:36,100 --> 02:41:38,100
the background.

4117
02:41:38,100 --> 02:41:41,100
the pricing, the company to use.

4118
02:41:41,100 --> 02:41:43,100
if we could find out that

4119
02:41:43,100 --> 02:41:44,100
information.

4120
02:41:44,100 --> 02:41:46,100
I would be happy to meet with

4121
02:41:46,100 --> 02:41:47,100
you to discuss more.

4122
02:41:47,100 --> 02:41:48,100
>> yes, ma'am.

4123
02:41:48,100 --> 02:41:50,100
>> I also would like to have

4124
02:41:50,100 --> 02:41:51,100
more information.

4125
02:41:51,100 --> 02:41:52,100
we're not moving on this

4126
02:41:52,100 --> 02:41:53,100
tonight.

4127
02:41:53,100 --> 02:41:54,100
meet with us.

4128
02:41:54,100 --> 02:41:55,100
provide us a plan.

4129
02:41:55,100 --> 02:41:56,100
let us know the cost.

4130
02:41:56,100 --> 02:41:58,100
I think the justification is

4131
02:41:58,100 --> 02:41:59,100
there.

4132
02:41:59,100 --> 02:42:03,100
I think we lack -- chief I think

4133
02:42:03,100 --> 02:42:05,401
you understand the consensus

4134
02:42:06,100 --> 02:42:07,100
where we want to go with the

4135
02:42:07,100 --> 02:42:08,100
item.

4136
02:42:08,100 --> 02:42:10,100
>> I will put a plan together

4137
02:42:10,100 --> 02:42:13,100
with order and plan for

4138
02:42:14,100 --> 02:42:16,100
implementation.

4139
02:42:16,100 --> 02:42:19,100
>> by the way it's going

4140
02:42:19,100 --> 02:42:21,401
obviously your determination how

4141
02:42:22,100 --> 02:42:23,100
do you this.

4142
02:42:23,100 --> 02:42:27,201
in terms of red light cameras I

4143
02:42:30,100 --> 02:42:31,100
would rather not.

4144
02:42:31,100 --> 02:42:35,100
I don't want to their to balloon

4145
02:42:35,100 --> 02:42:37,100
and be married to the red light

4146
02:42:37,100 --> 02:42:38,100
camera program.

4147
02:42:38,100 --> 02:42:39,100
if this commission or future

4148
02:42:39,100 --> 02:42:42,100
commission decides the red light

4149
02:42:42,100 --> 02:42:44,100
camera program is no longer

4150
02:42:44,100 --> 02:42:45,100
right for the committee I don't

4151
02:42:45,100 --> 02:42:49,100
want us to say oh, our license

4152
02:42:49,100 --> 02:42:52,100
plate readers are tied to it and

4153
02:42:52,100 --> 02:42:54,100
can't terminate it I would

4154
02:42:54,100 --> 02:42:55,100
rather they stand alone.

4155
02:42:55,100 --> 02:42:57,401
>> we utilize the infrastructure

4156
02:42:59,100 --> 02:43:01,100
of the poll for the power.

4157
02:43:01,100 --> 02:43:03,100
>> that's what I want to know.

4158
02:43:03,100 --> 02:43:06,100
how much does it cost to put on

4159
02:43:06,100 --> 02:43:08,100
a car, a poll, a building.

4160
02:43:08,100 --> 02:43:09,100
>> he will meet with us to

4161
02:43:09,100 --> 02:43:11,100
provide the information to us.

4162
02:43:11,100 --> 02:43:12,100
>> thank you, chief.

4163
02:43:12,100 --> 02:43:13,100
>> thank you.

4164
02:43:13,100 --> 02:43:14,100
>> 17b.

4165
02:43:14,100 --> 02:43:16,100
ordinance creating residency

4166
02:43:16,100 --> 02:43:18,100
requirements for charter

4167
02:43:19,100 --> 02:43:20,100
officers.

4168
02:43:20,100 --> 02:43:21,100
commission discussion and or

4169
02:43:21,100 --> 02:43:23,100
action regarding first reading

4170
02:43:23,100 --> 02:43:26,100
of an ordinance of the city of

4171
02:43:26,100 --> 02:43:28,401
sup rice, florida, amending

4172
02:43:29,100 --> 02:43:31,100
chapter 2, administration,

4173
02:43:32,100 --> 02:43:35,100
article four officers and moe

4174
02:43:35,100 --> 02:43:38,100
he's division one generally --

4175
02:43:38,100 --> 02:43:39,100
commissioner douglas to you

4176
02:43:39,100 --> 02:43:40,100
first.

4177
02:43:40,100 --> 02:43:44,201
>> so I have always had my eyes

4178
02:43:48,100 --> 02:43:50,100
out for various way that's we

4179
02:43:50,100 --> 02:43:52,100
could improve our governance and

4180
02:43:52,100 --> 02:43:54,100
strengthen our structure.

4181
02:43:55,100 --> 02:43:58,601
coming off of the making the

4182
02:43:59,100 --> 02:44:01,100
fire chief a charter officer I

4183
02:44:01,100 --> 02:44:04,601
recall -- little offing here by

4184
02:44:07,100 --> 02:44:10,100
default more so than a

4185
02:44:10,100 --> 02:44:11,100
requirement.

4186
02:44:11,100 --> 02:44:12,100
I'm happy to live here.

4187
02:44:12,100 --> 02:44:14,100
there was nothing requiring them

4188
02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:16,100
to do that.

4189
02:44:16,100 --> 02:44:19,100
then I remember as we were I ter

4190
02:44:19,100 --> 02:44:22,100
viewing last police chief I

4191
02:44:25,100 --> 02:44:27,100
think it was my colleague

4192
02:44:27,100 --> 02:44:29,401
commissioner scuotto choose to

4193
02:44:30,100 --> 02:44:33,601
respond to things on a flash.

4194
02:44:34,100 --> 02:44:37,601
weather the new chief is within

4195
02:44:38,100 --> 02:44:41,100
shooting range of the city.

4196
02:44:41,100 --> 02:44:43,100
thank god we didn't take him up

4197
02:44:43,100 --> 02:44:44,100
on it.

4198
02:44:44,100 --> 02:44:45,100
by now he would have been

4199
02:44:45,100 --> 02:44:46,100
divorced.

4200
02:44:46,100 --> 02:44:47,100
he did offer to move here.

4201
02:44:47,100 --> 02:44:51,201
-- we don't spend it or carry

4202
02:45:02,100 --> 02:45:03,100
out the policies.

4203
02:45:03,100 --> 02:45:06,100
we die very well many that down

4204
02:45:06,100 --> 02:45:07,100
to our charter officers.

4205
02:45:07,100 --> 02:45:09,100
they have significant

4206
02:45:09,100 --> 02:45:10,100
discretion.

4207
02:45:10,100 --> 02:45:13,100
the treasurer the community and

4208
02:45:19,100 --> 02:45:22,100
also the discretion given to

4209
02:45:22,100 --> 02:45:24,100
them.

4210
02:45:24,100 --> 02:45:26,100
they make decisions that impact

4211
02:45:26,100 --> 02:45:28,401
this community in very

4212
02:45:30,100 --> 02:45:32,100
significant ways.

4213
02:45:32,100 --> 02:45:35,100
so you know obviously zit

4214
02:45:35,100 --> 02:45:37,100
communities across country.

4215
02:45:37,100 --> 02:45:38,100
our county, our state as

4216
02:45:38,100 --> 02:45:40,401
various, answeried ways or

4217
02:45:42,100 --> 02:45:44,100
different positions they require

4218
02:45:44,100 --> 02:45:47,601
should be residents of our city.

4219
02:45:48,100 --> 02:45:52,201
as someone e mealing me today in

4220
02:45:53,100 --> 02:45:55,100
support of the ordinance.

4221
02:45:55,100 --> 02:45:56,100
they said if you're making

4222
02:45:56,100 --> 02:45:58,100
decisions that amount to

4223
02:45:58,100 --> 02:46:00,100
spending millions of dollars of

4224
02:46:00,100 --> 02:46:02,401
our communities dollars you

4225
02:46:03,100 --> 02:46:05,100
ought to have an investment.

4226
02:46:05,100 --> 02:46:07,100
it makes you they think what

4227
02:46:07,100 --> 02:46:09,401
you're doing much more.

4228
02:46:12,100 --> 02:46:14,100
I brought this forward for the

4229
02:46:14,100 --> 02:46:16,100
commission's consideration.

4230
02:46:17,100 --> 02:46:20,100
obviously I made it all

4231
02:46:21,100 --> 02:46:22,100
inclusive.

4232
02:46:22,100 --> 02:46:24,100
this commission can weight in as

4233
02:46:24,100 --> 02:46:26,100
to whether it wants to support

4234
02:46:26,100 --> 02:46:29,100
it, not support it, support it

4235
02:46:29,100 --> 02:46:32,100
in some form or another.

4236
02:46:32,100 --> 02:46:35,100
I kind of put this on here.

4237
02:46:35,100 --> 02:46:37,401
the backups are there.

4238
02:46:38,100 --> 02:46:40,100
>> assistant deputy mayor.

4239
02:46:46,100 --> 02:46:47,100
>> I understand where you're

4240
02:46:47,100 --> 02:46:48,100
coming from.

4241
02:46:48,100 --> 02:46:49,100
it makes sense.

4242
02:46:49,100 --> 02:46:51,100
based on the variance here I

4243
02:46:51,100 --> 02:46:52,100
think the chief is doing a great

4244
02:46:52,100 --> 02:46:53,100
job.

4245
02:46:53,100 --> 02:46:57,100
I will give you an example --

4246
02:46:57,100 --> 02:47:00,100
there are a couple who live in

4247
02:47:00,100 --> 02:47:02,100
the city and some that don't.

4248
02:47:02,100 --> 02:47:03,100
I feel they're doing a

4249
02:47:03,100 --> 02:47:05,100
phenomenal job.

4250
02:47:05,100 --> 02:47:07,100
I don't know if I would like to

4251
02:47:07,100 --> 02:47:09,100
fully support that.

4252
02:47:10,100 --> 02:47:11,100
that is my opinion.

4253
02:47:11,100 --> 02:47:13,100
>> mr. Scuotto.

4254
02:47:14,100 --> 02:47:16,100
>> the mayor would like to speak

4255
02:47:16,100 --> 02:47:17,100
as well.

4256
02:47:17,100 --> 02:47:19,100
>> I will get him next.

4257
02:47:19,100 --> 02:47:22,601
>> I don't have a, the city

4258
02:47:23,100 --> 02:47:27,100
clerk, I mean not that she's on

4259
02:47:27,100 --> 02:47:29,100
an essential worker.

4260
02:47:29,100 --> 02:47:30,100
I think if she didn't live in

4261
02:47:30,100 --> 02:47:33,601
the city it's not detriment to

4262
02:47:34,100 --> 02:47:35,100
us.

4263
02:47:35,100 --> 02:47:39,801
kim, not to say the same I could

4264
02:47:41,100 --> 02:47:44,100
understand if the people who --

4265
02:47:44,100 --> 02:47:46,100
not to say you're not working

4266
02:47:46,100 --> 02:47:47,100
every day.

4267
02:47:47,100 --> 02:47:50,100
if something would fire we have

4268
02:47:50,100 --> 02:47:52,100
something major, destruction, a

4269
02:47:52,100 --> 02:47:54,100
fire, whatever a gas leak or

4270
02:47:54,100 --> 02:47:56,100
whatever yes we want the police

4271
02:47:56,100 --> 02:47:58,100
or the fire chief to be close to

4272
02:47:58,100 --> 02:47:59,100
us.

4273
02:47:59,100 --> 02:48:02,100
the hurricane issues and stuff

4274
02:48:04,100 --> 02:48:05,100
like that.

4275
02:48:05,100 --> 02:48:08,100
it's nice to know they are

4276
02:48:08,100 --> 02:48:09,100
there.

4277
02:48:09,100 --> 02:48:10,100
police chief.

4278
02:48:10,100 --> 02:48:11,100
those and the city manager.

4279
02:48:11,100 --> 02:48:15,100
to me those three -- I'm saying

4280
02:48:15,100 --> 02:48:18,100
if you ask for a conscience.

4281
02:48:18,100 --> 02:48:20,100
>> no I totally.

4282
02:48:20,100 --> 02:48:22,100
I didn't want to leave anyone

4283
02:48:22,100 --> 02:48:23,100
out.

4284
02:48:23,100 --> 02:48:24,100
at the same time I'm prepared to

4285
02:48:24,100 --> 02:48:26,100
hear from you what is more

4286
02:48:26,100 --> 02:48:27,100
important.

4287
02:48:27,100 --> 02:48:28,100
>> you brought it up.

4288
02:48:28,100 --> 02:48:32,100
I -- if you asked me personally

4289
02:48:32,100 --> 02:48:33,100
I would say the city clerk and

4290
02:48:33,100 --> 02:48:36,100
the city attorney I wouldn't,

4291
02:48:37,100 --> 02:48:39,100
yes I would love every charter

4292
02:48:39,100 --> 02:48:41,100
officer to live in the city the

4293
02:48:41,100 --> 02:48:43,100
same way the city commission

4294
02:48:43,100 --> 02:48:45,100
have to live in the city of

4295
02:48:45,100 --> 02:48:46,100
sunrise.

4296
02:48:46,100 --> 02:48:48,100
years ago when we had contracts

4297
02:48:48,100 --> 02:48:51,100
for police and for general

4298
02:48:52,100 --> 02:48:55,100
employees we made it in the

4299
02:48:55,100 --> 02:48:58,100
beginning that if you wanted a

4300
02:48:58,100 --> 02:49:00,100
take home car I had to live in

4301
02:49:00,100 --> 02:49:02,100
the city of sunrise.

4302
02:49:02,100 --> 02:49:04,100
if you're a police officer and

4303
02:49:04,100 --> 02:49:06,100
wanted a take home car you had

4304
02:49:06,100 --> 02:49:08,100
to live in the city of sunrise.

4305
02:49:08,100 --> 02:49:10,100
if you lived outside you didn't

4306
02:49:10,100 --> 02:49:11,100
get a take home car.

4307
02:49:11,100 --> 02:49:14,100
>> you should if back there.

4308
02:49:14,100 --> 02:49:16,100
>> no, I'm saying.

4309
02:49:16,100 --> 02:49:18,100
general employees we said if

4310
02:49:18,100 --> 02:49:19,100
you're a call out.

4311
02:49:19,100 --> 02:49:21,100
a person in utility where if the

4312
02:49:21,100 --> 02:49:23,100
pipe breaks you're the person

4313
02:49:23,100 --> 02:49:24,100
that is the call out and you

4314
02:49:24,100 --> 02:49:27,100
live outside of the city you are

4315
02:49:27,100 --> 02:49:30,100
able to have a take home car.

4316
02:49:30,100 --> 02:49:31,100
if you live outside of the city

4317
02:49:31,100 --> 02:49:34,100
and there is a main break and

4318
02:49:34,100 --> 02:49:37,100
it's your weekend to work it's

4319
02:49:37,100 --> 02:49:38,100
okay to have.

4320
02:49:38,100 --> 02:49:41,100
I am saying we did things kind

4321
02:49:41,100 --> 02:49:42,100
of like that.

4322
02:49:42,100 --> 02:49:46,201
so my personal would be the city

4323
02:49:47,100 --> 02:49:49,100
manager should, I know, if he's

4324
02:49:49,100 --> 02:49:51,100
running the city of a thousand

4325
02:49:51,100 --> 02:49:54,100
plus employees and to deal with

4326
02:49:54,100 --> 02:49:58,201
us five I mean then the police

4327
02:50:00,100 --> 02:50:01,100
chief and fire chief.

4328
02:50:01,100 --> 02:50:03,100
efplts I didn't think it was

4329
02:50:03,100 --> 02:50:05,100
right to write it and make the

4330
02:50:05,100 --> 02:50:06,100
decision.

4331
02:50:06,100 --> 02:50:07,100
>> no, no.

4332
02:50:07,100 --> 02:50:09,100
emit at the same time.

4333
02:50:09,100 --> 02:50:11,100
>> if you're trying to get a

4334
02:50:11,100 --> 02:50:12,100
conscience.

4335
02:50:12,100 --> 02:50:13,100
>> yes.

4336
02:50:13,100 --> 02:50:15,100
>> it would be nice if they all

4337
02:50:15,100 --> 02:50:16,100
lived in the city.

4338
02:50:16,100 --> 02:50:20,100
if we broke it down that would

4339
02:50:20,100 --> 02:50:22,100
be my breakdown.

4340
02:50:22,100 --> 02:50:23,100
>> if it's the will of the

4341
02:50:23,100 --> 02:50:26,100
commission, I would agree but I

4342
02:50:26,100 --> 02:50:27,100
wouldn't want to change it now

4343
02:50:27,100 --> 02:50:29,100
for the people here.

4344
02:50:29,100 --> 02:50:31,100
I'm saying, just saying I

4345
02:50:31,100 --> 02:50:34,100
wouldn't want to change that.

4346
02:50:35,100 --> 02:50:39,100
I don't think that it in anyway

4347
02:50:39,100 --> 02:50:43,201
limits the person that is in our

4348
02:50:48,100 --> 02:50:50,100
infrastructure of the city that

4349
02:50:50,100 --> 02:50:52,100
wants to move up because they

4350
02:50:52,100 --> 02:50:54,100
live outside of the city doesn't

4351
02:50:54,100 --> 02:50:57,100
mean they wouldn't get that job.

4352
02:50:57,100 --> 02:50:59,100
>> it means after they get the

4353
02:50:59,100 --> 02:51:01,100
job --

4354
02:51:01,100 --> 02:51:03,100
>> it would be within a certain

4355
02:51:03,100 --> 02:51:04,100
time frame.

4356
02:51:04,100 --> 02:51:06,100
>> 160 days.

4357
02:51:06,100 --> 02:51:07,100
1 months.

4358
02:51:07,100 --> 02:51:10,100
the reason I put 6 months.

4359
02:51:11,100 --> 02:51:13,100
>> right now the market would be

4360
02:51:13,100 --> 02:51:17,201
you can buy a house that fast.

4361
02:51:34,100 --> 02:51:35,100
[inaudible]

4362
02:51:35,100 --> 02:51:36,100
>> no I'm it willing you why I

4363
02:51:36,100 --> 02:51:38,100
chose that six months.

4364
02:51:38,100 --> 02:51:41,601
assume someone took the job --

4365
02:51:42,100 --> 02:51:43,100
[inaudible]

4366
02:51:43,100 --> 02:51:45,100
>>like we did.

4367
02:51:58,100 --> 02:51:59,100
>> I think it's reasonable to

4368
02:51:59,100 --> 02:52:00,100
buy or rent.

4369
02:52:00,100 --> 02:52:03,100
I think 180 days gives you the

4370
02:52:03,100 --> 02:52:05,100
opportunity one or the other.

4371
02:52:05,100 --> 02:52:08,100
I thought about the school board

4372
02:52:08,100 --> 02:52:10,401
where people say --

4373
02:52:11,100 --> 02:52:13,100
>> huh-uh.

4374
02:52:15,100 --> 02:52:18,100
>> I wanted to make sure someone

4375
02:52:18,100 --> 02:52:19,100
was certificate toying they

4376
02:52:19,100 --> 02:52:20,100
lived here.

4377
02:52:20,100 --> 02:52:23,100
I have heard it with schools.

4378
02:52:23,100 --> 02:52:24,100
state legislatures.

4379
02:52:24,100 --> 02:52:26,100
>> commissioners.

4380
02:52:26,100 --> 02:52:29,601
>> they say -- they don't live

4381
02:52:31,100 --> 02:52:32,100
there.

4382
02:52:32,100 --> 02:52:33,100
I don't want --

4383
02:52:33,100 --> 02:52:34,100
>> yes,.

4384
02:52:34,100 --> 02:52:36,100
>> if you're making these major

4385
02:52:36,100 --> 02:52:38,100
decisions that affect peoples

4386
02:52:38,100 --> 02:52:41,100
lives I think you should have --

4387
02:52:41,100 --> 02:52:43,100
if you don't foal like you can

4388
02:52:43,100 --> 02:52:44,100
live in sunrise.

4389
02:52:44,100 --> 02:52:46,100
>> allen lived in new york.

4390
02:52:46,100 --> 02:52:48,100
when al not took the job in

4391
02:52:48,100 --> 02:52:50,100
sunrise he purchased his house

4392
02:52:50,100 --> 02:52:52,100
in sunrise.

4393
02:52:52,100 --> 02:52:54,100
>> I'm saying if you don't think

4394
02:52:54,100 --> 02:52:56,100
our community is good enough to

4395
02:52:56,100 --> 02:52:58,100
live in, it shouldn't be good

4396
02:52:58,100 --> 02:53:00,100
enough for to you make your

4397
02:53:00,100 --> 02:53:01,100
money.

4398
02:53:01,100 --> 02:53:03,100
>> that is not --

4399
02:53:03,100 --> 02:53:05,401
>> -- to the greater.

4400
02:53:06,100 --> 02:53:07,100
[inaudible]

4401
02:53:07,100 --> 02:53:09,100
>> before, mayor ryan.

4402
02:53:10,100 --> 02:53:14,100
>> yes, first of all I want to

4403
02:53:14,100 --> 02:53:16,100
clarify.

4404
02:53:16,100 --> 02:53:17,100
this is not up for first

4405
02:53:17,100 --> 02:53:18,100
reading.

4406
02:53:18,100 --> 02:53:20,100
this has been drafted.

4407
02:53:20,100 --> 02:53:21,100
the debate or discussion is

4408
02:53:21,100 --> 02:53:23,100
whether to put it on for first

4409
02:53:23,100 --> 02:53:25,100
reading, correct?

4410
02:53:28,100 --> 02:53:31,601
>> it is on for first reading.

4411
02:53:32,100 --> 02:53:34,100
>> alright so a couple of

4412
02:53:34,100 --> 02:53:35,100
issues.

4413
02:53:35,100 --> 02:53:37,100
one, this needs to be opened up

4414
02:53:37,100 --> 02:53:39,100
for a public hearing on this

4415
02:53:39,100 --> 02:53:40,100
matter if it's on for a first

4416
02:53:40,100 --> 02:53:41,100
reading.

4417
02:53:41,100 --> 02:53:45,100
>> second I want to thank ms. K.

4418
02:53:45,100 --> 02:53:46,100
for drafting this ordinance with

4419
02:53:46,100 --> 02:53:47,100
first detail.

4420
02:53:47,100 --> 02:53:49,100
first time hearing this as an

4421
02:53:49,100 --> 02:53:50,100
issue.

4422
02:53:50,100 --> 02:53:52,100
it does appear you took a lot of

4423
02:53:52,100 --> 02:53:54,100
time to put this together.

4424
02:53:54,100 --> 02:53:56,100
looking at the legal issues that

4425
02:53:56,100 --> 02:53:58,100
needed to be vetted from a

4426
02:53:58,100 --> 02:54:00,100
constitutional and statutory

4427
02:54:01,100 --> 02:54:02,100
framework.

4428
02:54:02,100 --> 02:54:03,100
I appreciate it.

4429
02:54:03,100 --> 02:54:06,100
this has been put on for a first

4430
02:54:06,100 --> 02:54:08,401
reading opposed to commission

4431
02:54:09,100 --> 02:54:10,100
discussion.

4432
02:54:10,100 --> 02:54:11,100
I know you took it seriously.

4433
02:54:11,100 --> 02:54:13,100
I don't support this item.

4434
02:54:13,100 --> 02:54:16,601
I don't see this has been

4435
02:54:17,100 --> 02:54:19,100
historical.

4436
02:54:19,100 --> 02:54:21,100
I understand the sincer and

4437
02:54:21,100 --> 02:54:24,100
honest feelings of the sponsor

4438
02:54:24,100 --> 02:54:26,100
of this ordinance.

4439
02:54:27,100 --> 02:54:30,100
I don't take issue with the

4440
02:54:30,100 --> 02:54:32,100
basis of this.

4441
02:54:32,100 --> 02:54:36,100
I haven't seen this as a disease

4442
02:54:36,100 --> 02:54:37,100
we need to cure.

4443
02:54:37,100 --> 02:54:41,100
I think that I will use john

4444
02:54:41,100 --> 02:54:43,100
brooks as a perfect example.

4445
02:54:43,100 --> 02:54:44,100
he didn't live in sunrise.

4446
02:54:44,100 --> 02:54:47,100
I don't think any of us who had

4447
02:54:47,100 --> 02:54:50,100
the opportunity and honor to

4448
02:54:50,100 --> 02:54:52,100
work with chief brooks would say

4449
02:54:52,100 --> 02:54:55,100
he ever felt that sunrise was

4450
02:54:55,100 --> 02:54:56,100
not his priority.

4451
02:54:56,100 --> 02:54:59,100
-- assuming the positions about

4452
02:55:32,100 --> 02:55:34,401
their own dedication and

4453
02:55:36,100 --> 02:55:37,100
commitment to the city.

4454
02:55:37,100 --> 02:55:39,100
there could most certainly be

4455
02:55:39,100 --> 02:55:40,100
employees coming through the

4456
02:55:40,100 --> 02:55:43,100
ranks who haven't lived in

4457
02:55:44,100 --> 02:55:46,100
sunrise but live in the

4458
02:55:46,100 --> 02:55:48,100
neighboring towns and have their

4459
02:55:48,100 --> 02:55:51,100
investments and life there but

4460
02:55:51,100 --> 02:55:52,100
have lead the city for

4461
02:55:52,100 --> 02:55:55,100
commitment at a work level that

4462
02:55:55,100 --> 02:55:58,100
they wouldn't be eligible to

4463
02:55:59,100 --> 02:56:01,100
sell a home or rent.

4464
02:56:01,100 --> 02:56:04,100
really, you know not necessarily

4465
02:56:04,100 --> 02:56:07,100
a game that is intended.

4466
02:56:07,100 --> 02:56:10,601
what is the purpose of renting

4467
02:56:11,100 --> 02:56:12,100
in sunrise to prove they should

4468
02:56:12,100 --> 02:56:15,100
be the charter officer, police

4469
02:56:15,100 --> 02:56:17,100
chief or city clerk.

4470
02:56:17,100 --> 02:56:19,100
appreciate the effort that was

4471
02:56:19,100 --> 02:56:20,100
put into this.

4472
02:56:20,100 --> 02:56:23,100
I haven't reviewed all of the

4473
02:56:23,100 --> 02:56:24,100
case law or anything.

4474
02:56:24,100 --> 02:56:27,100
I accept the clauses and believe

4475
02:56:27,100 --> 02:56:29,100
this is something the commission

4476
02:56:29,100 --> 02:56:32,100
decides to pass they could stand

4477
02:56:32,100 --> 02:56:33,100
up.

4478
02:56:33,100 --> 02:56:36,601
I think the commission can test

4479
02:56:37,100 --> 02:56:39,100
any applicant coming forward.

4480
02:56:39,100 --> 02:56:41,100
I won't support this tonight.

4481
02:56:41,100 --> 02:56:43,100
I won't support this in a

4482
02:56:43,100 --> 02:56:44,100
compromised way.

4483
02:56:44,100 --> 02:56:47,100
I have seen, each charter

4484
02:56:47,100 --> 02:56:49,100
officer living in this city or

4485
02:56:49,100 --> 02:56:51,100
not I have never had a doubt

4486
02:56:51,100 --> 02:56:52,100
that they were fully committed

4487
02:56:52,100 --> 02:56:55,100
to the city and in fact we have

4488
02:56:55,100 --> 02:56:57,100
had some living here and we

4489
02:56:57,100 --> 02:56:59,100
doubted if they were the

4490
02:56:59,100 --> 02:57:01,100
appropriate person.

4491
02:57:01,100 --> 02:57:04,100
so, I jut don't find this to be

4492
02:57:04,100 --> 02:57:07,100
necessary nowhere do I think it

4493
02:57:07,100 --> 02:57:08,100
strength nots pezly the

4494
02:57:08,100 --> 02:57:09,100
governance.

4495
02:57:09,100 --> 02:57:11,100
I understand the honest and

4496
02:57:11,100 --> 02:57:13,401
sincere philosophy behind it.

4497
02:57:17,100 --> 02:57:19,100
>> assistant deputy mayor.

4498
02:57:21,100 --> 02:57:22,100
>> yes.

4499
02:57:22,100 --> 02:57:23,100
I feel we would miss out on

4500
02:57:23,100 --> 02:57:26,100
having a good candidate versus

4501
02:57:26,100 --> 02:57:27,100
someone living in the city

4502
02:57:27,100 --> 02:57:28,100
qualifying.

4503
02:57:28,100 --> 02:57:30,401
it's a good idea.

4504
02:57:41,100 --> 02:57:43,100
I don't agree or think it's the

4505
02:57:43,100 --> 02:57:44,100
greatest.

4506
02:57:44,100 --> 02:57:47,601
>> I don't believe this ties in.

4507
02:57:49,100 --> 02:57:51,100
it could open up with gaming.

4508
02:57:51,100 --> 02:57:53,100
someone who has a family they

4509
02:57:53,100 --> 02:57:54,100
don't want to move.

4510
02:57:54,100 --> 02:57:56,100
they have a house on the beach.

4511
02:57:56,100 --> 02:57:57,100
they will say their home address

4512
02:57:57,100 --> 02:58:00,100
is their sisters or rent a one

4513
02:58:00,100 --> 02:58:01,100
bedroom apartment and not live

4514
02:58:01,100 --> 02:58:02,100
there to get around.

4515
02:58:02,100 --> 02:58:04,100
I think this can be addressed

4516
02:58:04,100 --> 02:58:06,100
were we choose to hire a

4517
02:58:06,100 --> 02:58:08,100
contract part of this.

4518
02:58:08,100 --> 02:58:12,201
I don't see it as a ordinance

4519
02:58:14,100 --> 02:58:15,100
requirement.

4520
02:58:15,100 --> 02:58:17,100
I think it weighs if we choose

4521
02:58:17,100 --> 02:58:19,100
to hire a particular charter

4522
02:58:19,100 --> 02:58:20,100
officer.

4523
02:58:20,100 --> 02:58:22,100
obviously when I had discussions

4524
02:58:22,100 --> 02:58:25,100
with chief rosa when he became

4525
02:58:25,100 --> 02:58:26,100
our police chief and lived in

4526
02:58:26,100 --> 02:58:28,100
palm beach I had concerns that

4527
02:58:28,100 --> 02:58:31,100
if there was a shooting, brooks

4528
02:58:31,100 --> 02:58:33,100
was this in five minutes.

4529
02:58:33,100 --> 02:58:35,401
chief rosa committed voluntarily

4530
02:58:36,100 --> 02:58:39,100
to relocate, him and his family

4531
02:58:39,100 --> 02:58:42,100
to sunrise, to do that and be

4532
02:58:42,100 --> 02:58:43,100
there.

4533
02:58:43,100 --> 02:58:44,100
that's what I would look for in

4534
02:58:44,100 --> 02:58:45,100
a police chief.

4535
02:58:45,100 --> 02:58:49,100
I don't know where ms. K. Lives.

4536
02:58:49,100 --> 02:58:51,100
if she had a nice house on the

4537
02:58:51,100 --> 02:58:53,100
beach I could understand why she

4538
02:58:53,100 --> 02:58:55,100
wouldn't want to sell her house

4539
02:58:55,100 --> 02:58:57,100
and come and live in sunrise.

4540
02:58:57,100 --> 02:59:00,100
I think she would do just as

4541
02:59:00,100 --> 02:59:02,100
good of a job living on the

4542
02:59:02,100 --> 02:59:04,100
beach as in sunrise.

4543
02:59:04,100 --> 02:59:06,100
I don't see this as an ordinance

4544
02:59:06,100 --> 02:59:08,100
type thing.

4545
02:59:08,100 --> 02:59:10,100
for all of our charter officers.

4546
02:59:10,100 --> 02:59:12,100
I do agree with commissioner

4547
02:59:12,100 --> 02:59:15,100
scuotto and douglas that the

4548
02:59:15,100 --> 02:59:17,100
fire chief and the chief of

4549
02:59:17,100 --> 02:59:18,100
police and quite frankly our

4550
02:59:18,100 --> 02:59:21,100
city manager should all reside

4551
02:59:23,100 --> 02:59:26,100
as close as possible if not in

4552
02:59:26,100 --> 02:59:28,100
sunrise.

4553
02:59:28,100 --> 02:59:30,100
for city attorney and our city

4554
02:59:30,100 --> 02:59:33,601
clerk, I don't see the need.

4555
02:59:35,100 --> 02:59:37,100
they're not responding to public

4556
02:59:37,100 --> 02:59:39,100
records request at 2:00 in the

4557
02:59:39,100 --> 02:59:40,100
mortgage.

4558
02:59:40,100 --> 02:59:42,100
the courthouse is not open at

4559
02:59:42,100 --> 02:59:43,100
9:00.

4560
02:59:43,100 --> 02:59:46,601
for me I wouldn't support this

4561
02:59:48,100 --> 02:59:49,100
as an ordinance.

4562
02:59:49,100 --> 02:59:52,100
I definitely champion the cause

4563
02:59:52,100 --> 02:59:55,100
for the hiring decisions for our

4564
02:59:55,100 --> 02:59:58,100
city manager or police chief.

4565
03:00:03,100 --> 03:00:04,100
any other comments.

4566
03:00:04,100 --> 03:00:07,100
>> nothing else to be said.

4567
03:00:08,100 --> 03:00:10,100
>> point of order, deputy

4568
03:00:10,100 --> 03:00:12,100
mayor --

4569
03:00:13,100 --> 03:00:14,100
[inaudible]

4570
03:00:14,100 --> 03:00:16,100
>> point of order --

4571
03:00:16,100 --> 03:00:18,100
[inaudible]

4572
03:00:22,100 --> 03:00:26,100
>> I will get my pound of fleshy

4573
03:00:26,100 --> 03:00:27,100
eventually.

4574
03:00:27,100 --> 03:00:28,100
rest assured.

4575
03:00:28,100 --> 03:00:29,100
>> point of order.

4576
03:00:29,100 --> 03:00:30,100
point of order.

4577
03:00:30,100 --> 03:00:32,100
>> I'm sorry.

4578
03:00:32,100 --> 03:00:34,100
>> everyone knows I always get

4579
03:00:34,100 --> 03:00:36,100
my pound of flesh.

4580
03:00:36,100 --> 03:00:38,100
>> mayor ryan, go ahead.

4581
03:00:38,100 --> 03:00:40,100
>> of course this is a well

4582
03:00:40,100 --> 03:00:42,100
sponsored and well thought out

4583
03:00:42,100 --> 03:00:43,100
ordinance.

4584
03:00:43,100 --> 03:00:45,100
this doesn't reflect anything

4585
03:00:45,100 --> 03:00:47,100
negative on commissioner --

4586
03:00:47,100 --> 03:00:49,100
>> mayor you don't have to rub

4587
03:00:49,100 --> 03:00:50,100
my back.

4588
03:00:50,100 --> 03:00:53,601
I get it I raised it.

4589
03:00:55,100 --> 03:00:56,100
[inaudible]

4590
03:00:56,100 --> 03:00:57,100
>> I thank you for drafting

4591
03:00:57,100 --> 03:00:58,100
this.

4592
03:00:58,100 --> 03:01:02,201
I saw the mayor harped on miss

4593
03:01:05,100 --> 03:01:07,100
k. And the hard work she did.

4594
03:01:07,100 --> 03:01:10,601
I don't want anyone to under

4595
03:01:13,100 --> 03:01:15,100
mind each commissioner has the

4596
03:01:15,100 --> 03:01:17,100
opportunity to bring a ordinance

4597
03:01:17,100 --> 03:01:18,100
forward.

4598
03:01:18,100 --> 03:01:21,100
I don't know if there was an

4599
03:01:21,100 --> 03:01:24,601
under tone it was an ordinance

4600
03:01:30,100 --> 03:01:31,100
without a discussion.

4601
03:01:31,100 --> 03:01:32,100
>> I can respond to that.

4602
03:01:32,100 --> 03:01:33,100
commissioner douglas.

4603
03:01:33,100 --> 03:01:35,100
[inaudible]

4604
03:01:35,100 --> 03:01:37,100
>> I don't think we need to --

4605
03:01:37,100 --> 03:01:39,100
we have k. Vote something up.

4606
03:01:39,100 --> 03:01:40,100
vote it down.

4607
03:01:40,100 --> 03:01:43,100
I don't want the message to go

4608
03:01:43,100 --> 03:01:44,100
if you foal it's something you

4609
03:01:44,100 --> 03:01:47,100
need to bring forward reject it

4610
03:01:47,100 --> 03:01:49,100
the public space.

4611
03:01:49,100 --> 03:01:50,100
you know --

4612
03:01:50,100 --> 03:01:52,100
>> I don't think that is

4613
03:01:52,100 --> 03:01:53,100
happening.

4614
03:01:53,100 --> 03:01:56,100
I think the backup and agenda is

4615
03:01:56,100 --> 03:01:57,100
what needs to be done.

4616
03:01:57,100 --> 03:02:01,801
at least I had an idea where you

4617
03:02:02,100 --> 03:02:03,100
were going today.

4618
03:02:03,100 --> 03:02:05,100
I'm not knocking commissioner

4619
03:02:05,100 --> 03:02:07,100
scuotto with license plate

4620
03:02:07,100 --> 03:02:08,100
readers.

4621
03:02:08,100 --> 03:02:10,100
I had no idea where that was

4622
03:02:10,100 --> 03:02:11,100
going today.

4623
03:02:11,100 --> 03:02:14,601
I do appreciate effort and work

4624
03:02:15,100 --> 03:02:18,601
that went onto getting this so

4625
03:02:20,100 --> 03:02:22,100
we -- I don't think anyone was

4626
03:02:22,100 --> 03:02:23,100
knocking it.

4627
03:02:23,100 --> 03:02:25,100
>> I wasn't knocking it I was a

4628
03:02:25,100 --> 03:02:28,601
firming that the authority we v

4629
03:02:30,100 --> 03:02:31,100
there have been comments made

4630
03:02:31,100 --> 03:02:33,100
about whether I brought

4631
03:02:33,100 --> 03:02:34,100
something forward or someone

4632
03:02:34,100 --> 03:02:36,100
else brought something forward

4633
03:02:36,100 --> 03:02:38,100
and this were concerns about

4634
03:02:38,100 --> 03:02:40,100
utilizing city attorney

4635
03:02:40,100 --> 03:02:42,100
resources on something that was

4636
03:02:42,100 --> 03:02:44,100
controversial without first

4637
03:02:45,100 --> 03:02:46,100
raising it.

4638
03:02:46,100 --> 03:02:48,100
I don't take that position.

4639
03:02:48,100 --> 03:02:50,100
I support you bringing this

4640
03:02:50,100 --> 03:02:51,100
forward.

4641
03:02:51,100 --> 03:02:53,100
I wanted to thank ms. K.

4642
03:02:53,100 --> 03:02:55,100
this is an important discussion.

4643
03:02:55,100 --> 03:02:59,201
there is the point this is the

4644
03:03:06,100 --> 03:03:08,100
first reading and we have to

4645
03:03:08,100 --> 03:03:09,100
have a public hearing.

4646
03:03:09,100 --> 03:03:11,100
>> anymore discussion before the

4647
03:03:11,100 --> 03:03:12,100
public hearing?

4648
03:03:12,100 --> 03:03:14,100
this is a public hearing anyone

4649
03:03:14,100 --> 03:03:15,100
wishing to weight in on this

4650
03:03:15,100 --> 03:03:17,401
item please step forward.

4651
03:03:19,100 --> 03:03:21,100
no one is stepping forward in

4652
03:03:21,100 --> 03:03:22,100
the galley.

4653
03:03:22,100 --> 03:03:24,100
tory, anyone on-line to talk

4654
03:03:24,100 --> 03:03:26,100
about this?

4655
03:03:26,100 --> 03:03:28,100
>> no hands raised.

4656
03:03:29,100 --> 03:03:30,100
>> I will close the public

4657
03:03:30,100 --> 03:03:32,100
hearing part of this.

4658
03:03:32,100 --> 03:03:34,100
a vote required?

4659
03:03:35,100 --> 03:03:37,100
>> this was a motion and a

4660
03:03:37,100 --> 03:03:38,100
second.

4661
03:03:38,100 --> 03:03:39,100
yes, a vote.

4662
03:03:39,100 --> 03:03:40,100
>> let's call the question.

4663
03:03:40,100 --> 03:03:42,401
>> there was no motion.

4664
03:03:45,100 --> 03:03:47,100
I thought there was.

4665
03:03:47,100 --> 03:03:48,100
>> this wasn't.

4666
03:03:48,100 --> 03:03:50,401
>> they just went into

4667
03:03:52,100 --> 03:03:53,100
discussion.

4668
03:03:53,100 --> 03:03:54,100
I don't have a motion or a

4669
03:03:54,100 --> 03:03:55,100
second.

4670
03:03:55,100 --> 03:03:56,100
>> a motion.

4671
03:03:56,100 --> 03:03:57,100
>> a motion.

4672
03:03:57,100 --> 03:03:58,100
>> motion by commissioner

4673
03:03:58,100 --> 03:04:00,100
scuotto.

4674
03:04:01,100 --> 03:04:03,401
>> second my assistant deputy

4675
03:04:04,100 --> 03:04:05,100
mayor.

4676
03:04:05,100 --> 03:04:07,100
>> reopen public hearing.

4677
03:04:07,100 --> 03:04:09,100
>> reopen public hearing.

4678
03:04:09,100 --> 03:04:10,100
anyone wishing to comment on

4679
03:04:10,100 --> 03:04:11,100
this item?

4680
03:04:11,100 --> 03:04:13,100
nobody stepping forward.

4681
03:04:13,100 --> 03:04:15,100
I will close public hearing.

4682
03:04:15,100 --> 03:04:17,100
tory anyone on the line to

4683
03:04:17,100 --> 03:04:18,100
comment on this item?

4684
03:04:18,100 --> 03:04:20,100
>> no deputy mayor, nobody has a

4685
03:04:20,100 --> 03:04:22,100
hand raised.

4686
03:04:22,100 --> 03:04:24,100
>> nobody has a hand raised.

4687
03:04:24,100 --> 03:04:26,100
I will close public hearing.

4688
03:04:26,100 --> 03:04:28,100
anyone among us wish to

4689
03:04:28,100 --> 03:04:30,100
reiterate any comments.

4690
03:04:31,100 --> 03:04:34,100
I will incorporate the comments.

4691
03:04:34,100 --> 03:04:36,100
able to call the question now.

4692
03:04:36,100 --> 03:04:37,100
>> I think so.

4693
03:04:37,100 --> 03:04:38,100
>> yes, sir.

4694
03:04:38,100 --> 03:04:40,100
>> thank you.

4695
03:04:41,100 --> 03:04:42,100
call the question place.

4696
03:04:42,100 --> 03:04:44,100
>> commissioner scuotto.

4697
03:04:46,100 --> 03:04:47,100
>> yes.

4698
03:04:47,100 --> 03:04:48,100
>> commissioner douglas.

4699
03:04:48,100 --> 03:04:49,100
>> yes.

4700
03:04:49,100 --> 03:04:51,100
>> assistant deputy mayor.

4701
03:04:52,100 --> 03:04:53,100
>> yes,.

4702
03:04:53,100 --> 03:04:56,100
>> you're voting to approve or

4703
03:04:56,100 --> 03:04:57,100
pass this.

4704
03:04:57,100 --> 03:04:58,100
>> I'm sorry, no.

4705
03:04:58,100 --> 03:04:59,100
I'm against it.

4706
03:04:59,100 --> 03:05:01,100
my apologies.

4707
03:05:01,100 --> 03:05:02,100
thank you for stopping me.

4708
03:05:02,100 --> 03:05:04,100
>> deputy mayor.

4709
03:05:04,100 --> 03:05:05,100
>> no.

4710
03:05:05,100 --> 03:05:06,100
>> mayor ryan.

4711
03:05:06,100 --> 03:05:07,100
>> no.

4712
03:05:07,100 --> 03:05:09,100
>> item fails 3-2

4713
03:05:10,100 --> 03:05:12,100
>> new business c.

4714
03:05:15,100 --> 03:05:16,100
sports programs.

4715
03:05:16,100 --> 03:05:18,100
commission discussion and or

4716
03:05:18,100 --> 03:05:20,100
action regarding city of sunrise

4717
03:05:20,100 --> 03:05:23,100
sports programs in the leisure

4718
03:05:23,100 --> 03:05:24,100
services department.

4719
03:05:24,100 --> 03:05:26,401
assistant deputy mayor jacquelyn

4720
03:05:27,100 --> 03:05:29,100
a.guzman.

4721
03:05:29,100 --> 03:05:30,100
>> I have been in the sports

4722
03:05:30,100 --> 03:05:32,100
program here since 2012.

4723
03:05:33,100 --> 03:05:35,100
since then the last pugh years I

4724
03:05:35,100 --> 03:05:36,100
have seen a concern with the

4725
03:05:36,100 --> 03:05:38,100
volunteers we have, for coaches.

4726
03:05:38,100 --> 03:05:40,100
that goes for every sport.

4727
03:05:40,100 --> 03:05:42,100
basketball, football, flag,

4728
03:05:42,100 --> 03:05:43,100
soccer.

4729
03:05:43,100 --> 03:05:46,100
so, I just pretty much wanted to

4730
03:05:46,100 --> 03:05:50,100
see if and how we can address

4731
03:05:50,100 --> 03:05:52,100
the recruitment for coaches.

4732
03:05:52,100 --> 03:05:55,100
the coaches I have seen the last

4733
03:05:55,100 --> 03:05:57,100
few years they're either not

4734
03:05:57,100 --> 03:05:58,100
trained, experience.

4735
03:05:58,100 --> 03:06:00,100
I understand you have to start

4736
03:06:00,100 --> 03:06:01,100
somewhere.

4737
03:06:01,100 --> 03:06:02,100
just the culture of being

4738
03:06:02,100 --> 03:06:04,100
disrespectful.

4739
03:06:04,100 --> 03:06:05,100
cursing in front of our

4740
03:06:05,100 --> 03:06:07,100
children, our teams.

4741
03:06:08,100 --> 03:06:10,100
I get it they hear it I don't

4742
03:06:10,100 --> 03:06:12,100
think it's a good representation

4743
03:06:12,100 --> 03:06:14,100
of our city knowing we have high

4744
03:06:14,100 --> 03:06:16,100
standards to our own staff.

4745
03:06:16,100 --> 03:06:19,601
I hope we can address the

4746
03:06:20,100 --> 03:06:21,100
situations moving forward.

4747
03:06:21,100 --> 03:06:23,100
w edesperately need it.

4748
03:06:23,100 --> 03:06:25,100
>> mr. Lubelski ahead.

4749
03:06:29,100 --> 03:06:30,100
>> thank you.

4750
03:06:30,100 --> 03:06:33,100
I have spoken with the assistant

4751
03:06:33,100 --> 03:06:35,100
deputy mayor with this.

4752
03:06:35,100 --> 03:06:36,100
we have rules and regulations

4753
03:06:36,100 --> 03:06:38,100
from a coaching stand point.

4754
03:06:38,100 --> 03:06:39,100
I have talked with staff.

4755
03:06:39,100 --> 03:06:40,100
I think there are opportunities

4756
03:06:40,100 --> 03:06:42,100
for improvement in training our

4757
03:06:42,100 --> 03:06:45,100
volunteers and making sure that

4758
03:06:45,100 --> 03:06:47,100
we make our rules and

4759
03:06:47,100 --> 03:06:50,100
regulations very clear to them.

4760
03:06:51,100 --> 03:06:52,100
providing the tools necessary to

4761
03:06:52,100 --> 03:06:53,100
be successful.

4762
03:06:53,100 --> 03:06:55,100
one of the things we're looking

4763
03:06:55,100 --> 03:06:58,100
at is potentially developing a

4764
03:06:58,100 --> 03:07:00,401
inhouse video more mandatory

4765
03:07:01,100 --> 03:07:02,100
training.

4766
03:07:02,100 --> 03:07:03,100
I think there is a clearly an

4767
03:07:03,100 --> 03:07:05,100
opportunity.

4768
03:07:05,100 --> 03:07:06,100
we look forward to making

4769
03:07:06,100 --> 03:07:08,100
improvements.

4770
03:07:29,100 --> 03:07:31,100
>> I want to first thank the

4771
03:07:31,100 --> 03:07:33,401
coaches who are coaching,

4772
03:07:35,100 --> 03:07:36,100
they're parents.

4773
03:07:36,100 --> 03:07:37,100
there are not coaches.

4774
03:07:37,100 --> 03:07:38,100
there are kids.

4775
03:07:38,100 --> 03:07:40,100
when I grew up coaches coached

4776
03:07:40,100 --> 03:07:43,100
because their kids moved on.

4777
03:07:43,100 --> 03:07:46,100
here we're a working city most

4778
03:07:46,100 --> 03:07:48,100
of the parents men and women who

4779
03:07:48,100 --> 03:07:52,100
coach have a kid on the team.

4780
03:07:52,100 --> 03:07:54,100
a lot of times they're not even

4781
03:07:54,100 --> 03:07:55,100
a real coach.

4782
03:07:55,100 --> 03:07:56,100
they're just a parent.

4783
03:07:56,100 --> 03:07:58,100
most of the time we don't have

4784
03:07:58,100 --> 03:08:00,401
enough parents to coach.

4785
03:08:02,100 --> 03:08:05,100
we're always trying to recruit

4786
03:08:05,100 --> 03:08:07,100
so, that is where the training

4787
03:08:07,100 --> 03:08:08,100
comes in.

4788
03:08:08,100 --> 03:08:10,100
they're not actually a coach

4789
03:08:10,100 --> 03:08:11,100
they're a parent.

4790
03:08:11,100 --> 03:08:13,100
so, they may come off a

4791
03:08:13,100 --> 03:08:16,100
different then maybe a coach who

4792
03:08:16,100 --> 03:08:17,100
did have the training.

4793
03:08:17,100 --> 03:08:19,100
>> I don't agree with you there.

4794
03:08:19,100 --> 03:08:21,100
I have volunteered as a coach

4795
03:08:21,100 --> 03:08:22,100
for years.

4796
03:08:22,100 --> 03:08:23,100
I don't have the experience.

4797
03:08:23,100 --> 03:08:25,100
I know that. I'm open to

4798
03:08:25,100 --> 03:08:27,100
suggestions and training.

4799
03:08:27,100 --> 03:08:28,100
>> if that was available I'm

4800
03:08:28,100 --> 03:08:29,100
happy to learn.

4801
03:08:29,100 --> 03:08:30,100
however up don't have to be a

4802
03:08:30,100 --> 03:08:32,100
experienced coach to be

4803
03:08:32,100 --> 03:08:34,100
respectful and mindful of the

4804
03:08:34,100 --> 03:08:35,100
children you're coaching.

4805
03:08:35,100 --> 03:08:37,100
as a parent having respect for

4806
03:08:37,100 --> 03:08:39,100
who you deal with on a daily

4807
03:08:39,100 --> 03:08:41,100
basis, communication, cursing,

4808
03:08:41,100 --> 03:08:43,100
being disrespectful.

4809
03:08:43,100 --> 03:08:45,100
you don't have to -- it doesn't

4810
03:08:45,100 --> 03:08:47,100
matter if you're a parent or

4811
03:08:47,100 --> 03:08:48,100
not.

4812
03:08:48,100 --> 03:08:49,100
I'm thankful for the coaches now

4813
03:08:49,100 --> 03:08:50,100
there.

4814
03:08:50,100 --> 03:08:51,100
are some that are not having

4815
03:08:51,100 --> 03:08:52,100
children on the team.

4816
03:08:52,100 --> 03:08:54,100
I know this personally.

4817
03:08:54,100 --> 03:08:55,100
they're coaching which is great.

4818
03:08:55,100 --> 03:08:58,100
it's not always the case.

4819
03:08:58,100 --> 03:09:00,100
>> I am saying it's f. The

4820
03:09:00,100 --> 03:09:02,401
parent is disrespectful parent .

4821
03:09:08,100 --> 03:09:10,100
so let's have a video, do

4822
03:09:10,100 --> 03:09:11,100
training.

4823
03:09:11,100 --> 03:09:13,100
>> obviously.

4824
03:09:13,100 --> 03:09:15,401
>> I'm agreeing with you.

4825
03:09:16,100 --> 03:09:18,100
they're mostly parents that are

4826
03:09:18,100 --> 03:09:19,100
coaching.

4827
03:09:19,100 --> 03:09:20,100
that's what I'm saying.

4828
03:09:20,100 --> 03:09:22,100
so a lost them don't go through

4829
03:09:22,100 --> 03:09:24,100
the training because we end up

4830
03:09:24,100 --> 03:09:27,100
having years ago we would have

4831
03:09:27,100 --> 03:09:29,100
20 teams never had enough

4832
03:09:29,100 --> 03:09:31,100
coaches to coach.

4833
03:09:31,100 --> 03:09:35,100
at least now we have enough, we

4834
03:09:35,100 --> 03:09:37,100
barley have enough teams.

4835
03:09:37,100 --> 03:09:39,401
we have enough parents.

4836
03:09:40,100 --> 03:09:42,100
it went from one extreme to the

4837
03:09:42,100 --> 03:09:43,100
other.

4838
03:09:43,100 --> 03:09:44,100
I coached here for years for my

4839
03:09:44,100 --> 03:09:47,100
niece christina for softball and

4840
03:09:48,100 --> 03:09:49,100
everything.

4841
03:09:49,100 --> 03:09:52,100
so I know, then again you have

4842
03:09:52,100 --> 03:09:55,601
parents that are just -- think

4843
03:09:56,100 --> 03:09:58,100
it's a major league baseball

4844
03:09:58,100 --> 03:10:00,100
game or major league soccer game

4845
03:10:00,100 --> 03:10:02,100
and get so into it.

4846
03:10:02,100 --> 03:10:03,100
you know they get.

4847
03:10:03,100 --> 03:10:04,100
they do.

4848
03:10:04,100 --> 03:10:07,100
I mean, alis places soccer,

4849
03:10:15,100 --> 03:10:18,100
football -- in the last two or

4850
03:10:18,100 --> 03:10:20,100
three years I haven't seen many

4851
03:10:20,100 --> 03:10:22,100
of the coaches be that crazy.

4852
03:10:22,100 --> 03:10:25,100
you mainly see a lost parents

4853
03:10:25,100 --> 03:10:28,100
that run their mouths more to

4854
03:10:28,100 --> 03:10:30,100
the referees than the actual

4855
03:10:30,100 --> 03:10:31,100
coach.

4856
03:10:31,100 --> 03:10:32,100
sometimes you have a very

4857
03:10:32,100 --> 03:10:33,100
aggressive coach.

4858
03:10:33,100 --> 03:10:36,601
we saw that when we played

4859
03:10:44,100 --> 03:10:45,100
plantation.

4860
03:10:45,100 --> 03:10:47,100
man station coaches were

4861
03:10:47,100 --> 03:10:49,100
structured to win every game.

4862
03:10:49,100 --> 03:10:52,601
where you know the coachs in

4863
03:10:53,100 --> 03:10:56,100
sunrise were like from the

4864
03:10:56,100 --> 03:10:59,100
60s, free spirited, have fun.

4865
03:11:00,100 --> 03:11:01,100
I'm just saying sometimes you

4866
03:11:01,100 --> 03:11:02,100
have that.

4867
03:11:02,100 --> 03:11:04,100
I agree.

4868
03:11:04,100 --> 03:11:07,100
the training is most important.

4869
03:11:10,100 --> 03:11:11,100
let's go further to the sports

4870
03:11:11,100 --> 03:11:12,100
program.

4871
03:11:12,100 --> 03:11:13,100
we hay million training

4872
03:11:13,100 --> 03:11:16,100
facilities and people who came

4873
03:11:17,100 --> 03:11:21,100
here to come and help the kids.

4874
03:11:21,100 --> 03:11:23,100
to do the little cams and prep

4875
03:11:23,100 --> 03:11:24,100
our kids.

4876
03:11:24,100 --> 03:11:26,100
you know.

4877
03:11:32,100 --> 03:11:34,100
>> you have a kid playing rec

4878
03:11:34,100 --> 03:11:37,100
with a little talent the travel

4879
03:11:37,100 --> 03:11:38,100
team comes and takes the kitted

4880
03:11:38,100 --> 03:11:41,100
and tells the parent don't pay

4881
03:11:41,100 --> 03:11:44,100
$75 to the city for the year.

4882
03:11:44,100 --> 03:11:45,100
pay me a hundred tkharz a month,

4883
03:11:45,100 --> 03:11:47,100
I will teach your kid.

4884
03:11:47,100 --> 03:11:49,100
it turned no a major business.

4885
03:11:49,100 --> 03:11:51,100
we see that with soccer.

4886
03:11:51,100 --> 03:11:54,100
we had a great soccer program.

4887
03:11:54,100 --> 03:11:55,100
now they just split.

4888
03:11:55,100 --> 03:11:58,601
14u, 1u that eastbound the mayor

4889
03:12:07,100 --> 03:12:08,100
coached they split.

4890
03:12:08,100 --> 03:12:11,100
now you have the sunrise sharks,

4891
03:12:11,100 --> 03:12:13,100
sunrise sing.

4892
03:12:13,100 --> 03:12:14,100
you get the calls.

4893
03:12:14,100 --> 03:12:17,100
I don't have a field.

4894
03:12:17,100 --> 03:12:19,100
I need a field.

4895
03:12:19,100 --> 03:12:21,100
they call the team sunrise.

4896
03:12:21,100 --> 03:12:23,100
mean while they play all games

4897
03:12:23,100 --> 03:12:25,100
in weston, right.

4898
03:12:25,100 --> 03:12:26,100
serious, right now.

4899
03:12:26,100 --> 03:12:27,100
you know.

4900
03:12:27,100 --> 03:12:29,100
they play all of the games in

4901
03:12:29,100 --> 03:12:30,100
weston.

4902
03:12:30,100 --> 03:12:32,100
their name is sunrise.

4903
03:12:32,100 --> 03:12:34,100
none of the kids from sunrise

4904
03:12:34,100 --> 03:12:36,100
but they want to use our field.

4905
03:12:36,100 --> 03:12:38,100
listen, even if it's one kid on

4906
03:12:38,100 --> 03:12:41,601
the team, he's still a sunrise

4907
03:12:43,100 --> 03:12:45,100
kid we want to help them.

4908
03:12:45,100 --> 03:12:47,100
then we have the sunrise theme

4909
03:12:47,100 --> 03:12:49,401
who promoted sunrise who

4910
03:12:50,100 --> 03:12:53,601
really -- I was against the

4911
03:12:55,100 --> 03:12:56,100
astro turf.

4912
03:12:56,100 --> 03:12:58,100
the mayor was for astro turf.

4913
03:12:58,100 --> 03:13:00,100
I use to do my own polling up

4914
03:13:00,100 --> 03:13:02,100
here.

4915
03:13:02,100 --> 03:13:03,100
neil busted me one time.

4916
03:13:03,100 --> 03:13:06,100
I went down loot line and asked

4917
03:13:06,100 --> 03:13:08,100
every kid, turf or grass, turf

4918
03:13:08,100 --> 03:13:10,100
or grass, turf or grass.

4919
03:13:10,100 --> 03:13:13,100
we got to a point that we have a

4920
03:13:13,100 --> 03:13:15,100
great program.

4921
03:13:16,100 --> 03:13:19,100
we built a beautiful facility

4922
03:13:19,100 --> 03:13:20,100
for the kids to play on.

4923
03:13:20,100 --> 03:13:22,100
now the kids from weston want to

4924
03:13:22,100 --> 03:13:23,100
use our fields.

4925
03:13:23,100 --> 03:13:24,100
where is the balance.

4926
03:13:24,100 --> 03:13:25,100
you know.

4927
03:13:25,100 --> 03:13:27,100
these people are about money.

4928
03:13:27,100 --> 03:13:28,100
some of them.

4929
03:13:28,100 --> 03:13:29,100
not all of them.

4930
03:13:29,100 --> 03:13:32,100
then you have nasty coaches.

4931
03:13:37,100 --> 03:13:39,100
if someone is giving me a

4932
03:13:39,100 --> 03:13:40,100
hundred dollars a month I

4933
03:13:40,100 --> 03:13:41,100
wouldn't be nasty.

4934
03:13:41,100 --> 03:13:43,100
if I volunteer and make nothing

4935
03:13:43,100 --> 03:13:46,100
and my kids are losing every

4936
03:13:46,100 --> 03:13:47,100
game I'm nasty.

4937
03:13:47,100 --> 03:13:48,100
there is the training.

4938
03:13:48,100 --> 03:13:52,201
so the training and see what we

4939
03:13:54,100 --> 03:13:56,100
can do to help the kids with the

4940
03:13:56,100 --> 03:13:59,100
mini camps to help the girls

4941
03:13:59,100 --> 03:14:00,100
pitch this.

4942
03:14:00,100 --> 03:14:02,100
isn't enough girls times on the

4943
03:14:02,100 --> 03:14:03,100
team.

4944
03:14:03,100 --> 03:14:04,100
one girl pitches decent.

4945
03:14:04,100 --> 03:14:06,100
now they're trying to get

4946
03:14:06,100 --> 03:14:07,100
another girl to learn to pitch.

4947
03:14:07,100 --> 03:14:09,100
it's an art.

4948
03:14:10,100 --> 03:14:13,100
it's not something you pick up

4949
03:14:13,100 --> 03:14:14,100
over night.

4950
03:14:14,100 --> 03:14:15,100
we have to have little camps for

4951
03:14:15,100 --> 03:14:16,100
teaching the kids.

4952
03:14:16,100 --> 03:14:18,100
girls softball.

4953
03:14:18,100 --> 03:14:19,100
boys baseball.

4954
03:14:19,100 --> 03:14:21,401
we have beautiful facilities

4955
03:14:24,100 --> 03:14:26,100
with the pitching pounds and

4956
03:14:26,100 --> 03:14:28,100
everything that we begged for 20

4957
03:14:28,100 --> 03:14:30,100
years to get with the batting

4958
03:14:30,100 --> 03:14:33,100
cages let's use them and have

4959
03:14:33,100 --> 03:14:34,100
someone train our kids.

4960
03:14:34,100 --> 03:14:36,100
that's all I say.

4961
03:14:36,100 --> 03:14:37,100
>> commissioner douglas, do you

4962
03:14:37,100 --> 03:14:39,100
have anything on this one?

4963
03:14:39,100 --> 03:14:41,100
>> he's just nasty.

4964
03:14:50,100 --> 03:14:52,100
>> I wasn't a sports guy until

4965
03:14:52,100 --> 03:14:54,100
my son played football.

4966
03:14:54,100 --> 03:14:56,100
I have a soft spot.

4967
03:14:56,100 --> 03:14:58,100
any group dynamic I involve

4968
03:14:58,100 --> 03:15:01,100
myself I observe as much as I

4969
03:15:01,100 --> 03:15:02,100
can.

4970
03:15:02,100 --> 03:15:06,201
I did see that most parents are

4971
03:15:07,100 --> 03:15:09,100
doing it from a good faith

4972
03:15:09,100 --> 03:15:10,100
perspective.

4973
03:15:10,100 --> 03:15:12,100
running lines, being passionate.

4974
03:15:12,100 --> 03:15:14,100
most know their children won't

4975
03:15:14,100 --> 03:15:16,100
be super stars.

4976
03:15:16,100 --> 03:15:19,100
they get involved as coaches.

4977
03:15:22,100 --> 03:15:24,100
[inaudible]

4978
03:15:24,100 --> 03:15:25,100
>> would have never thought.

4979
03:15:25,100 --> 03:15:27,100
>> I have seen coaches pushing

4980
03:15:27,100 --> 03:15:29,100
my son a little hard.

4981
03:15:29,100 --> 03:15:31,100
you know I get passionate.

4982
03:15:31,100 --> 03:15:33,100
I understand that passion will

4983
03:15:33,100 --> 03:15:36,601
come with it I certainly think

4984
03:15:37,100 --> 03:15:39,100
though if we were to make it

4985
03:15:39,100 --> 03:15:42,100
mandatory, take training and so

4986
03:15:42,100 --> 03:15:45,100
on you won't necessarily --

4987
03:15:45,100 --> 03:15:47,401
>> they go through the

4988
03:15:49,100 --> 03:15:51,100
background check and all of

4989
03:15:51,100 --> 03:15:52,100
that.

4990
03:15:52,100 --> 03:15:53,100
>> sigh cases you don't have

4991
03:15:53,100 --> 03:15:55,100
people running the lines.

4992
03:15:55,100 --> 03:15:57,100
I never ran a line before.

4993
03:15:57,100 --> 03:15:58,100
I had to run a line.

4994
03:15:58,100 --> 03:16:01,100
there are times I remember

4995
03:16:01,100 --> 03:16:02,100
specifically with tackle this

4996
03:16:02,100 --> 03:16:03,100
were challenges with the

4997
03:16:03,100 --> 03:16:04,100
leadership and the parents

4998
03:16:04,100 --> 03:16:06,100
didn't want to participate.

4999
03:16:06,100 --> 03:16:08,100
it fell apart.

5000
03:16:09,100 --> 03:16:12,100
thank god it was salvaged.

5001
03:16:12,100 --> 03:16:14,100
I know you're passionate and

5002
03:16:14,100 --> 03:16:15,100
close to baseball thing.

5003
03:16:15,100 --> 03:16:17,100
mayor ryan has been involved

5004
03:16:17,100 --> 03:16:20,100
with so manier for sometime.

5005
03:16:20,100 --> 03:16:22,100
we all have, the rest of you

5006
03:16:22,100 --> 03:16:24,100
have had your own experiences

5007
03:16:24,100 --> 03:16:25,100
with sports.

5008
03:16:25,100 --> 03:16:29,201
I think we want to keep it

5009
03:16:31,100 --> 03:16:33,100
amateur and not force

5010
03:16:33,100 --> 03:16:35,100
requirements because you have a

5011
03:16:35,100 --> 03:16:37,100
lot of people that just have to

5012
03:16:37,100 --> 03:16:38,100
chip in.

5013
03:16:38,100 --> 03:16:40,401
like I was there.

5014
03:16:42,100 --> 03:16:44,100
I could of been considered a

5015
03:16:44,100 --> 03:16:45,100
coach at that point.

5016
03:16:45,100 --> 03:16:46,100
there weren't enough people to

5017
03:16:46,100 --> 03:16:47,100
run the lines.

5018
03:16:47,100 --> 03:16:48,100
I ran the lines.

5019
03:16:48,100 --> 03:16:51,100
if we have that as a requirement

5020
03:16:51,100 --> 03:16:55,100
then you know you would see a

5021
03:16:55,100 --> 03:16:56,100
challenge.

5022
03:16:56,100 --> 03:16:57,100
>> mayor ryan.

5023
03:16:57,100 --> 03:16:58,100
>> yes, thank you.

5024
03:16:58,100 --> 03:17:01,100
first of all thank you for

5025
03:17:01,100 --> 03:17:02,100
raising this.

5026
03:17:02,100 --> 03:17:03,100
I think it's always good for us

5027
03:17:03,100 --> 03:17:06,100
to reexamine our programs and

5028
03:17:08,100 --> 03:17:10,100
what is going on.

5029
03:17:10,100 --> 03:17:11,100
you have been out on the fields

5030
03:17:11,100 --> 03:17:12,100
this.

5031
03:17:12,100 --> 03:17:13,100
is what you see.

5032
03:17:13,100 --> 03:17:14,100
there it's real.

5033
03:17:14,100 --> 03:17:16,100
your feelings are rational.

5034
03:17:16,100 --> 03:17:19,100
I think it is an issue that from

5035
03:17:19,100 --> 03:17:22,100
time to time we have to revisit.

5036
03:17:22,100 --> 03:17:25,601
as was said I did soccer,

5037
03:17:26,100 --> 03:17:29,100
baseball, I have coached flag

5038
03:17:29,100 --> 03:17:30,100
football.

5039
03:17:30,100 --> 03:17:32,100
each have different

5040
03:17:32,100 --> 03:17:33,100
characteristics.

5041
03:17:33,100 --> 03:17:34,100
the coaches are different for a

5042
03:17:34,100 --> 03:17:36,100
variety of reasons.

5043
03:17:36,100 --> 03:17:38,100
I also think the parents are

5044
03:17:38,100 --> 03:17:40,100
different in each of those for a

5045
03:17:40,100 --> 03:17:41,100
variety of reasons.

5046
03:17:41,100 --> 03:17:44,100
it can be difficult to coach

5047
03:17:44,100 --> 03:17:46,100
baseball because the parents are

5048
03:17:46,100 --> 03:17:47,100
so close.

5049
03:17:47,100 --> 03:17:48,100
of course after a couple of

5050
03:17:48,100 --> 03:17:49,100
seasons as mentioned I think

5051
03:17:49,100 --> 03:17:51,100
every parent and every coach

5052
03:17:51,100 --> 03:17:53,100
thinks they can coach the

5053
03:17:53,100 --> 03:17:54,100
yankees or mets.

5054
03:17:54,100 --> 03:17:56,100
they know how to navigate all of

5055
03:17:56,100 --> 03:17:58,401
the complexities of it.

5056
03:17:59,100 --> 03:18:01,100
all that had said.

5057
03:18:01,100 --> 03:18:03,100
it's clear the commission

5058
03:18:03,100 --> 03:18:05,100
appreciates as does staff the

5059
03:18:05,100 --> 03:18:07,401
commitment of the volunteering.

5060
03:18:10,100 --> 03:18:12,100
they love the sport, they love

5061
03:18:12,100 --> 03:18:13,100
working with children.

5062
03:18:13,100 --> 03:18:17,100
that being said I don't think as

5063
03:18:17,100 --> 03:18:20,100
has been suggested, and kevin

5064
03:18:21,100 --> 03:18:24,100
would appreciate this I don't

5065
03:18:39,100 --> 03:18:42,100
think it would do much.

5066
03:18:47,100 --> 03:18:49,100
-- we have had to deal with

5067
03:18:49,100 --> 03:18:52,100
coaches more animated and maybe

5068
03:18:52,100 --> 03:18:54,100
inappropriate in terms of her

5069
03:18:54,100 --> 03:18:56,401
conduct and discussion point.

5070
03:18:57,100 --> 03:18:58,100
I thought that would be

5071
03:18:58,100 --> 03:19:00,100
replicated for the parents.

5072
03:19:00,100 --> 03:19:03,100
often times it can be quite

5073
03:19:03,100 --> 03:19:05,100
challenging for the coaches.

5074
03:19:05,100 --> 03:19:06,100
you have parents that are

5075
03:19:06,100 --> 03:19:07,100
inappropriate.

5076
03:19:07,100 --> 03:19:10,100
soccer instituted a rule that

5077
03:19:11,100 --> 03:19:13,100
was pretty strict.

5078
03:19:13,100 --> 03:19:14,100
there is no coaching from the

5079
03:19:14,100 --> 03:19:15,100
sidelines.

5080
03:19:15,100 --> 03:19:17,100
no yelling at the revs.

5081
03:19:17,100 --> 03:19:19,100
did you it was a potential

5082
03:19:19,100 --> 03:19:20,100
penalty.

5083
03:19:20,100 --> 03:19:21,100
it's hard as a parent.

5084
03:19:21,100 --> 03:19:24,100
the first few times I was on the

5085
03:19:24,100 --> 03:19:26,100
sidelines not coaching it's hard

5086
03:19:26,100 --> 03:19:28,100
to sit on your hands and not be

5087
03:19:28,100 --> 03:19:30,100
animated at the ref, coach or

5088
03:19:30,100 --> 03:19:32,100
simply the circumstances.

5089
03:19:32,100 --> 03:19:34,100
there is nothing wrong with

5090
03:19:34,100 --> 03:19:36,401
reminding everyone in the

5091
03:19:37,100 --> 03:19:39,100
programs when we expect from

5092
03:19:39,100 --> 03:19:41,100
them in terms of behavior.

5093
03:19:41,100 --> 03:19:43,100
we don't expect this is a

5094
03:19:43,100 --> 03:19:44,100
professional endeavor t-fpltz a

5095
03:19:44,100 --> 03:19:47,100
fun opportunity for those who

5096
03:19:47,100 --> 03:19:50,100
discover their own talents and

5097
03:19:50,100 --> 03:19:52,100
build confidence and

5098
03:19:52,100 --> 03:19:53,100
camaraderie.

5099
03:19:53,100 --> 03:19:55,100
I thank you for bringing this

5100
03:19:55,100 --> 03:19:56,100
forward.

5101
03:19:56,100 --> 03:19:58,100
a yee with all comments made.

5102
03:19:58,100 --> 03:20:00,401
the need to remind.

5103
03:20:01,100 --> 03:20:02,100
think staff can handle this

5104
03:20:02,100 --> 03:20:03,100
going forward.

5105
03:20:03,100 --> 03:20:06,100
I'm sure they would appreciate

5106
03:20:06,100 --> 03:20:07,100
they have the opportunity to

5107
03:20:07,100 --> 03:20:09,100
remind the coaches.

5108
03:20:09,100 --> 03:20:11,100
I will end with this most

5109
03:20:11,100 --> 03:20:13,100
leagues require a coach to go

5110
03:20:13,100 --> 03:20:14,100
through a orientation.

5111
03:20:14,100 --> 03:20:17,100
we had to do it for soccer every

5112
03:20:17,100 --> 03:20:18,100
year.

5113
03:20:18,100 --> 03:20:19,100
the rules never changed.

5114
03:20:19,100 --> 03:20:20,100
it was always the same.

5115
03:20:20,100 --> 03:20:21,100
not saying it's the most fun

5116
03:20:21,100 --> 03:20:22,100
meeting.

5117
03:20:22,100 --> 03:20:24,100
kevin and his staff always tried

5118
03:20:24,100 --> 03:20:26,100
to make it interesting whether

5119
03:20:26,100 --> 03:20:29,100
it was giving away balls for

5120
03:20:29,100 --> 03:20:30,100
practice or whatever.

5121
03:20:30,100 --> 03:20:32,100
there is nothing wrong with the

5122
03:20:32,100 --> 03:20:33,100
mandatory meetings.

5123
03:20:33,100 --> 03:20:35,100
thank you assistant deputy

5124
03:20:35,100 --> 03:20:36,100
mayor.

5125
03:20:36,100 --> 03:20:38,100
>> assistant deputy mayor

5126
03:20:38,100 --> 03:20:40,100
guzman.

5127
03:20:40,100 --> 03:20:42,100
>> I will say waterhill usually

5128
03:20:42,100 --> 03:20:45,100
has -- heat coming and

5129
03:20:46,100 --> 03:20:47,100
hurricanes and camps for the

5130
03:20:47,100 --> 03:20:48,100
weekends.

5131
03:20:48,100 --> 03:20:50,100
if we could do that I think it

5132
03:20:50,100 --> 03:20:51,100
would be good for city.

5133
03:20:51,100 --> 03:20:53,100
I wanted to bring up the point

5134
03:20:53,100 --> 03:20:55,100
from the mayor, if we're, you

5135
03:20:55,100 --> 03:20:58,100
know, I don't think requiring or

5136
03:20:58,100 --> 03:21:01,100
mandating they do this virtual

5137
03:21:01,100 --> 03:21:02,100
training of some sort.

5138
03:21:02,100 --> 03:21:04,100
I don't think it will push those

5139
03:21:04,100 --> 03:21:06,100
coach as way I think it will

5140
03:21:06,100 --> 03:21:08,100
make those parents appreciate

5141
03:21:08,100 --> 03:21:10,100
that we are trying to have a

5142
03:21:10,100 --> 03:21:12,100
positive culture in our city and

5143
03:21:12,100 --> 03:21:14,100
they are part of the program

5144
03:21:14,100 --> 03:21:15,100
too.

5145
03:21:15,100 --> 03:21:17,100
so hopefully we can wean out the

5146
03:21:17,100 --> 03:21:19,100
not so great coaches and bring

5147
03:21:19,100 --> 03:21:20,100
in better ones.

5148
03:21:20,100 --> 03:21:22,100
>> if I may deputy mayor to add

5149
03:21:22,100 --> 03:21:26,201
one point that was said, I noah

5150
03:21:27,100 --> 03:21:28,100
sis instant deputy mayor, you

5151
03:21:28,100 --> 03:21:29,100
have seen this.

5152
03:21:29,100 --> 03:21:32,100
we know who the coaches were,

5153
03:21:32,100 --> 03:21:34,100
perhaps walking as close to the

5154
03:21:34,100 --> 03:21:36,100
line in terms of how they

5155
03:21:36,100 --> 03:21:37,100
conduct themselves.

5156
03:21:37,100 --> 03:21:39,100
I think the coaches are doing

5157
03:21:39,100 --> 03:21:40,100
the right thing.

5158
03:21:40,100 --> 03:21:43,100
welcoming the opportunity to get

5159
03:21:45,100 --> 03:21:47,100
the same lectures so we don't

5160
03:21:47,100 --> 03:21:48,100
have to do it.

5161
03:21:48,100 --> 03:21:50,100
I agree with you.

5162
03:21:50,100 --> 03:21:54,201
>> I was a coach one time for

5163
03:21:55,100 --> 03:21:56,100
soccer.

5164
03:21:56,100 --> 03:21:59,100
I never played a game of socker

5165
03:21:59,100 --> 03:22:00,100
in my life.

5166
03:22:00,100 --> 03:22:02,100
my son was one of those team

5167
03:22:02,100 --> 03:22:04,100
that's didn't have a coach, it

5168
03:22:04,100 --> 03:22:08,100
was either I coached or no team.

5169
03:22:08,100 --> 03:22:10,401
so, I was forcefully

5170
03:22:12,100 --> 03:22:14,100
volunteered.

5171
03:22:15,100 --> 03:22:17,100
went out and had fun.

5172
03:22:17,100 --> 03:22:20,100
at the end of the day I realize

5173
03:22:20,100 --> 03:22:22,100
I didn't know what I was doing.

5174
03:22:22,100 --> 03:22:25,100
thank god youtube was around for

5175
03:22:25,100 --> 03:22:28,100
drills and explain some things

5176
03:22:28,100 --> 03:22:29,100
this.

5177
03:22:29,100 --> 03:22:31,100
is recreational sports.

5178
03:22:33,100 --> 03:22:36,100
amateurs, it's to have fun.

5179
03:22:36,100 --> 03:22:38,100
this needs to be a code of

5180
03:22:38,100 --> 03:22:40,100
conduct.

5181
03:22:41,100 --> 03:22:43,100
the cursing.

5182
03:22:43,100 --> 03:22:44,100
I'm supportive of a training

5183
03:22:44,100 --> 03:22:45,100
video.

5184
03:22:45,100 --> 03:22:49,801
this is what you don't do with a

5185
03:22:51,100 --> 03:22:52,100
parent yelling and screaming at

5186
03:22:52,100 --> 03:22:53,100
the referee.

5187
03:22:53,100 --> 03:22:55,100
this is what you don't do.

5188
03:22:55,100 --> 03:22:57,100
pro and con.

5189
03:22:57,100 --> 03:22:58,100
however you want to do it.

5190
03:22:58,100 --> 03:23:00,100
on our sports program as a

5191
03:23:00,100 --> 03:23:02,401
recreational level there needs

5192
03:23:03,100 --> 03:23:05,100
to be a minimum set of standards

5193
03:23:05,100 --> 03:23:07,100
where curses are not cursing and

5194
03:23:07,100 --> 03:23:08,100
yelling.

5195
03:23:08,100 --> 03:23:10,100
this is not, as everyone says

5196
03:23:10,100 --> 03:23:12,100
these kids maybe one out of all

5197
03:23:12,100 --> 03:23:14,100
recreational programs may make

5198
03:23:14,100 --> 03:23:16,100
it to a professional.

5199
03:23:16,100 --> 03:23:17,100
hopefully some will make college

5200
03:23:17,100 --> 03:23:19,100
and high school athletics.

5201
03:23:19,100 --> 03:23:21,100
I think that's where that comes

5202
03:23:21,100 --> 03:23:22,100
in.

5203
03:23:22,100 --> 03:23:23,100
the point of the programs are to

5204
03:23:23,100 --> 03:23:26,100
get the kids to try to explore,

5205
03:23:26,100 --> 03:23:28,100
see if it's something they want

5206
03:23:28,100 --> 03:23:29,100
to do.

5207
03:23:29,100 --> 03:23:32,601
not develop them into nfl, msl,

5208
03:23:34,100 --> 03:23:37,100
nba, that's someone else's job.

5209
03:23:38,100 --> 03:23:39,100
supportive of that.

5210
03:23:39,100 --> 03:23:41,100
any other discussion?

5211
03:23:46,100 --> 03:23:48,100
>> 17d.

5212
03:23:48,100 --> 03:23:50,100
ready to move forward.

5213
03:23:50,100 --> 03:23:52,401
city manager anual review.

5214
03:23:53,100 --> 03:23:54,100
commission discussion and or

5215
03:23:54,100 --> 03:23:56,100
action regarding of the annual

5216
03:23:56,100 --> 03:23:59,100
review and evaluation of the

5217
03:23:59,100 --> 03:24:01,100
city manager.

5218
03:24:01,100 --> 03:24:03,401
city manager mark lubelski.

5219
03:24:04,100 --> 03:24:06,401
>> if coy just --

5220
03:24:07,100 --> 03:24:09,100
>> go ahead.

5221
03:24:09,100 --> 03:24:11,100
>> yes, last year it was the

5222
03:24:11,100 --> 03:24:14,100
first time we did it.

5223
03:24:34,100 --> 03:24:35,100
[inaudible]

5224
03:24:35,100 --> 03:24:36,100
>> I was going to have them each

5225
03:24:36,100 --> 03:24:39,100
come up and do a evaluation and

5226
03:24:39,100 --> 03:24:42,100
then we give an evaluation.

5227
03:24:42,100 --> 03:24:44,100
does that fly with everyone.

5228
03:24:44,100 --> 03:24:45,100
nobody is saying no.

5229
03:24:45,100 --> 03:24:48,100
I guess we will proceed that

5230
03:24:48,100 --> 03:24:49,100
way.

5231
03:24:49,100 --> 03:24:52,100
mr. Lubelski the floor is yours

5232
03:24:52,100 --> 03:24:54,100
on your an actual review.

5233
03:24:54,100 --> 03:24:55,100
>> thank you.

5234
03:24:55,100 --> 03:24:56,100
city manager.

5235
03:24:56,100 --> 03:24:58,100
it's been a pleasure and honor

5236
03:24:58,100 --> 03:25:00,100
to serve as city manager over

5237
03:25:00,100 --> 03:25:01,100
the past year.

5238
03:25:01,100 --> 03:25:03,100
I am incredibly proud of the

5239
03:25:03,100 --> 03:25:04,100
work of the city commission,

5240
03:25:04,100 --> 03:25:06,100
city employees, residents,

5241
03:25:06,100 --> 03:25:08,100
businesses have accomplished

5242
03:25:09,100 --> 03:25:10,100
over the past year.

5243
03:25:10,100 --> 03:25:12,100
to adapt and respond to covid-19

5244
03:25:12,100 --> 03:25:14,100
pandemic, still maintaining

5245
03:25:14,100 --> 03:25:16,100
focus and long term goals of the

5246
03:25:16,100 --> 03:25:17,100
city.

5247
03:25:17,100 --> 03:25:20,100
although the city has many core

5248
03:25:20,100 --> 03:25:22,100
values embedded in the culture I

5249
03:25:22,100 --> 03:25:24,401
reinforce three pillars daily.

5250
03:25:28,100 --> 03:25:30,100
outstanding customer service,

5251
03:25:31,100 --> 03:25:33,100
transparently, collaboration

5252
03:25:34,100 --> 03:25:35,100
with all levels.

5253
03:25:35,100 --> 03:25:38,100
attached is a list of major

5254
03:25:38,100 --> 03:25:40,100
accomplishments of the last year

5255
03:25:40,100 --> 03:25:41,100
this.

5256
03:25:41,100 --> 03:25:43,100
is a test euplt of the city

5257
03:25:43,100 --> 03:25:45,100
commission and all employees

5258
03:25:45,100 --> 03:25:46,100
across the organization.

5259
03:25:46,100 --> 03:25:47,100
again I thank you for the

5260
03:25:47,100 --> 03:25:49,100
opportunity to serve the

5261
03:25:49,100 --> 03:25:51,100
commission, residents, city of

5262
03:25:51,100 --> 03:25:52,100
sunrise.

5263
03:25:52,100 --> 03:25:54,100
wasn't planning to go over each

5264
03:25:54,100 --> 03:25:56,100
item.

5265
03:25:56,100 --> 03:25:58,100
if the commissioners have

5266
03:25:58,100 --> 03:26:00,100
questions I'm available.

5267
03:26:00,100 --> 03:26:01,100
thank you, again.

5268
03:26:01,100 --> 03:26:02,100
>> thank you.

5269
03:26:02,100 --> 03:26:04,100
this memorandum is attached to

5270
03:26:04,100 --> 03:26:06,100
the agenda.

5271
03:26:07,100 --> 03:26:09,100
who wants to go first.

5272
03:26:09,100 --> 03:26:11,401
commissioner scuotto, thank you

5273
03:26:12,100 --> 03:26:13,100
for volunteering.

5274
03:26:13,100 --> 03:26:14,100
>> okay.

5275
03:26:14,100 --> 03:26:16,100
no problem.

5276
03:26:17,100 --> 03:26:19,401
>> where should I start.

5277
03:26:20,100 --> 03:26:22,100
it has been a privilege to work

5278
03:26:22,100 --> 03:26:23,100
with you.

5279
03:26:23,100 --> 03:26:26,100
over the last twenty years.

5280
03:26:26,100 --> 03:26:28,100
close to it anyways.

5281
03:26:28,100 --> 03:26:31,601
to give you that opportunity to

5282
03:26:32,100 --> 03:26:35,601
move up to the city manager,

5283
03:26:37,100 --> 03:26:39,401
supported as a 5-0.

5284
03:26:42,100 --> 03:26:46,100
so show me good skills, show me

5285
03:26:46,100 --> 03:26:47,100
your bad skills.

5286
03:26:47,100 --> 03:26:50,100
over the last year it is a

5287
03:26:50,100 --> 03:26:52,401
different time because when

5288
03:26:53,100 --> 03:26:56,100
richard was city manager when I

5289
03:26:56,100 --> 03:26:57,100
wanted to know something I

5290
03:26:57,100 --> 03:26:58,100
called you.

5291
03:26:58,100 --> 03:27:01,601
now since you're city manager I

5292
03:27:02,100 --> 03:27:04,100
want to hear about something I

5293
03:27:04,100 --> 03:27:06,100
call sean.

5294
03:27:06,100 --> 03:27:09,100
it's living kind of the same.

5295
03:27:09,100 --> 03:27:12,100
you have been very approachable.

5296
03:27:12,100 --> 03:27:16,100
I think you have done a she will

5297
03:27:16,100 --> 03:27:18,100
good job.

5298
03:27:19,100 --> 03:27:23,201
sometimes you -- you may miss a

5299
03:27:25,100 --> 03:27:27,100
couple of meetings.

5300
03:27:27,100 --> 03:27:28,100
you didn't give us all of the

5301
03:27:28,100 --> 03:27:29,100
information.

5302
03:27:29,100 --> 03:27:30,100
I think that's more or less the

5303
03:27:30,100 --> 03:27:31,100
learning curve.

5304
03:27:31,100 --> 03:27:33,100
you got beat up a little bit.

5305
03:27:33,100 --> 03:27:34,100
I guess that maybe taught you to

5306
03:27:34,100 --> 03:27:36,100
make sure you give us all of the

5307
03:27:36,100 --> 03:27:38,100
information you needed.

5308
03:27:38,100 --> 03:27:41,601
just sometimes you know -- I

5309
03:27:45,100 --> 03:27:48,100
don't know if it's just me but

5310
03:27:48,100 --> 03:27:51,100
we have ideas and we run them by

5311
03:27:51,100 --> 03:27:52,100
you.

5312
03:27:52,100 --> 03:27:55,100
we have suggestions, it's good

5313
03:28:06,100 --> 03:28:08,100
to rip thupgdz by you.

5314
03:28:08,100 --> 03:28:11,100
whether I bring it up at a meet

5315
03:28:11,100 --> 03:28:13,100
willing or just in general to

5316
03:28:13,100 --> 03:28:14,100
you.

5317
03:28:14,100 --> 03:28:17,100
to think of things, to hear your

5318
03:28:17,100 --> 03:28:19,100
feedback, to think if I should

5319
03:28:19,100 --> 03:28:20,100
bring it up or not.

5320
03:28:20,100 --> 03:28:23,601
whether it's a business we have

5321
03:28:54,100 --> 03:28:56,100
a issue or not a issue but the

5322
03:28:56,100 --> 03:28:59,601
way the davie thing came about

5323
03:29:00,100 --> 03:29:01,100
with the water and waste water.

5324
03:29:01,100 --> 03:29:05,100
I may of been hot for a moment.

5325
03:29:05,100 --> 03:29:08,100
going through it and thinking of

5326
03:29:08,100 --> 03:29:09,100
why you brought it up this way

5327
03:29:09,100 --> 03:29:12,100
or how you, you know said it

5328
03:29:12,100 --> 03:29:16,100
this way or what not, I think

5329
03:29:16,100 --> 03:29:18,100
it's a good understanding for

5330
03:29:18,100 --> 03:29:20,100
ups and downs.

5331
03:29:20,100 --> 03:29:22,100
that's the type of city manager,

5332
03:29:22,100 --> 03:29:24,100
some previous city managers

5333
03:29:24,100 --> 03:29:25,100
didn't have that.

5334
03:29:25,100 --> 03:29:29,100
you know it was like in one ear

5335
03:29:29,100 --> 03:29:30,100
and out the other.

5336
03:29:30,100 --> 03:29:33,100
some are more knowledgeable than

5337
03:29:33,100 --> 03:29:34,100
others.

5338
03:29:34,100 --> 03:29:36,100
some went on their own beaten

5339
03:29:36,100 --> 03:29:37,100
path.

5340
03:29:37,100 --> 03:29:41,801
I think you as a person, I think

5341
03:29:44,100 --> 03:29:47,100
you're a responsible person and

5342
03:29:47,100 --> 03:29:48,100
dedicated to the city.

5343
03:29:48,100 --> 03:29:50,100
I think you showed that in the

5344
03:29:50,100 --> 03:29:52,100
planning department.

5345
03:29:52,100 --> 03:29:53,100
think because we saw that or I

5346
03:29:53,100 --> 03:29:57,100
saw that I saw where you could

5347
03:29:57,100 --> 03:29:59,100
go.

5348
03:29:59,100 --> 03:30:01,100
you're not just institution al

5349
03:30:01,100 --> 03:30:03,100
knowledge of the city but of the

5350
03:30:03,100 --> 03:30:04,100
planning.

5351
03:30:04,100 --> 03:30:06,100
of where you want to see the

5352
03:30:06,100 --> 03:30:07,100
city.

5353
03:30:07,100 --> 03:30:09,100
maybe because you have that

5354
03:30:09,100 --> 03:30:10,100
planning background.

5355
03:30:10,100 --> 03:30:12,100
some people may of had a finance

5356
03:30:12,100 --> 03:30:13,100
back ground.

5357
03:30:13,100 --> 03:30:16,100
maybe they're a numbers person.

5358
03:30:16,100 --> 03:30:19,100
I think you having assistant

5359
03:30:21,100 --> 03:30:23,100
city managers you can have the

5360
03:30:23,100 --> 03:30:26,100
mix of a number person, vision

5361
03:30:26,100 --> 03:30:27,100
person, go-getter person.

5362
03:30:27,100 --> 03:30:31,201
so, I see that in your pick.

5363
03:30:32,100 --> 03:30:33,100
who you picked.

5364
03:30:33,100 --> 03:30:36,601
not only for assistants but who

5365
03:30:39,100 --> 03:30:42,100
you moved around in the city.

5366
03:30:42,100 --> 03:30:45,601
there are positions we need to

5367
03:30:46,100 --> 03:30:47,100
build.

5368
03:30:47,100 --> 03:30:49,100
I know it's not your fault we're

5369
03:30:49,100 --> 03:30:50,100
not filling them.

5370
03:30:50,100 --> 03:30:53,100
there are positions in other

5371
03:30:54,100 --> 03:30:57,100
cities think about moving to

5372
03:30:57,100 --> 03:30:58,100
sunrise.

5373
03:30:58,100 --> 03:30:59,100
you know maybe if they have ten

5374
03:30:59,100 --> 03:31:01,100
or fifteen years in another city

5375
03:31:01,100 --> 03:31:03,100
they're thinking twice.

5376
03:31:03,100 --> 03:31:05,100
do I want to go work for

5377
03:31:05,100 --> 03:31:07,100
sunrise.

5378
03:31:09,100 --> 03:31:12,100
you know we get people that come

5379
03:31:12,100 --> 03:31:13,100
down to the end.

5380
03:31:13,100 --> 03:31:14,100
your department, another

5381
03:31:14,100 --> 03:31:15,100
department.

5382
03:31:15,100 --> 03:31:17,100
then they go somewhere else.

5383
03:31:17,100 --> 03:31:19,100
it's frustrating.

5384
03:31:19,100 --> 03:31:21,100
we're at a important we get

5385
03:31:21,100 --> 03:31:23,100
people and then lose them.

5386
03:31:23,100 --> 03:31:27,201
so, over ale I just think your

5387
03:31:29,100 --> 03:31:31,100
communication skills with me are

5388
03:31:31,100 --> 03:31:32,100
good.

5389
03:31:32,100 --> 03:31:34,100
just making sure that not just

5390
03:31:34,100 --> 03:31:38,201
because we get to hire I it

5391
03:31:43,100 --> 03:31:44,100
should go down to every

5392
03:31:44,100 --> 03:31:45,100
department head.

5393
03:31:45,100 --> 03:31:47,100
everyone should be treated the

5394
03:31:47,100 --> 03:31:48,100
same exact way.

5395
03:31:48,100 --> 03:31:51,100
I'm sure you do that.

5396
03:31:51,100 --> 03:31:53,401
little things shouldn't fall

5397
03:31:54,100 --> 03:31:55,100
between the cracks.

5398
03:31:55,100 --> 03:31:58,100
you should know that going up.

5399
03:31:58,100 --> 03:32:02,100
just be more, you know not just

5400
03:32:02,100 --> 03:32:04,100
to the five of us.

5401
03:32:04,100 --> 03:32:06,100
because the other people that

5402
03:32:06,100 --> 03:32:09,100
are your directors, they can

5403
03:32:10,100 --> 03:32:13,100
hurt you just as much as the

5404
03:32:13,100 --> 03:32:15,100
commission could fire you.

5405
03:32:15,100 --> 03:32:16,100
because they could do things

5406
03:32:16,100 --> 03:32:19,601
that disrupt, you know a whole

5407
03:32:20,100 --> 03:32:21,100
department.

5408
03:32:21,100 --> 03:32:23,100
put you in a worst situation

5409
03:32:23,100 --> 03:32:25,100
because you may of picked that

5410
03:32:25,100 --> 03:32:26,100
person.

5411
03:32:26,100 --> 03:32:29,100
so it's just sometimes the

5412
03:32:29,100 --> 03:32:32,100
little things that get people.

5413
03:32:32,100 --> 03:32:33,100
we had that before.

5414
03:32:33,100 --> 03:32:36,601
so, I think you're deserving of

5415
03:32:38,100 --> 03:32:41,601
you know good rating from me.

5416
03:32:43,100 --> 03:32:45,100
so, that's all I have to say.

5417
03:32:45,100 --> 03:32:47,100
>> commissioner douglas.

5418
03:32:53,100 --> 03:32:55,100
>> I can't speak to too many

5419
03:32:55,100 --> 03:32:57,100
prior managers.

5420
03:32:57,100 --> 03:32:59,100
I can only speak to one prior.

5421
03:32:59,100 --> 03:33:02,601
I can say you're an improvement.

5422
03:33:04,100 --> 03:33:05,100
I will start with that.

5423
03:33:05,100 --> 03:33:08,100
you did outline in your feedback

5424
03:33:08,100 --> 03:33:09,100
to the commission some of the

5425
03:33:09,100 --> 03:33:12,100
different target areas that you

5426
03:33:13,100 --> 03:33:16,100
focused on over past year that

5427
03:33:16,100 --> 03:33:18,100
we have chosen you to lead the

5428
03:33:18,100 --> 03:33:20,100
organization as our chief

5429
03:33:20,100 --> 03:33:21,100
executive.

5430
03:33:21,100 --> 03:33:24,601
you know we can't talk about

5431
03:33:27,100 --> 03:33:29,100
anything without mentioning

5432
03:33:29,100 --> 03:33:32,100
covid and the paeupl pact on our

5433
03:33:32,100 --> 03:33:33,100
community and our city.

5434
03:33:33,100 --> 03:33:37,201
I think our staff has done a

5435
03:33:41,100 --> 03:33:43,401
tremendous effort holding it

5436
03:33:44,100 --> 03:33:45,100
together.

5437
03:33:45,100 --> 03:33:49,100
as the leader I have to give you

5438
03:33:49,100 --> 03:33:51,100
credit how you managed your

5439
03:33:51,100 --> 03:33:52,100
staff.

5440
03:33:52,100 --> 03:33:55,100
your levels have been delivered

5441
03:33:59,100 --> 03:34:00,100
during a crisis in our

5442
03:34:00,100 --> 03:34:01,100
community.

5443
03:34:01,100 --> 03:34:04,601
so, the over all management of

5444
03:34:05,100 --> 03:34:07,100
the covid situation in our

5445
03:34:07,100 --> 03:34:10,100
community I have to commend your

5446
03:34:10,100 --> 03:34:13,100
leadership and how you marshaled

5447
03:34:13,100 --> 03:34:15,100
your troops in insuring the

5448
03:34:15,100 --> 03:34:17,401
service delivery and structure

5449
03:34:21,100 --> 03:34:22,100
continued to function.

5450
03:34:22,100 --> 03:34:24,100
we have had many, many

5451
03:34:24,100 --> 03:34:26,100
concerning moments.

5452
03:34:27,100 --> 03:34:30,100
with respect to how covid

5453
03:34:33,100 --> 03:34:35,100
impacted our community none of

5454
03:34:35,100 --> 03:34:38,100
us had experience dealing with

5455
03:34:40,100 --> 03:34:42,100
such a crisis.

5456
03:34:42,100 --> 03:34:45,100
we are here today not out of the

5457
03:34:45,100 --> 03:34:46,100
woods in terms of how it's

5458
03:34:46,100 --> 03:34:48,100
affecting our community but

5459
03:34:48,100 --> 03:34:51,100
certainly we would of managed

5460
03:34:51,100 --> 03:34:54,100
through a significant period of

5461
03:34:54,100 --> 03:34:57,100
the affect on our community and

5462
03:34:57,100 --> 03:34:59,100
so far we have been able to

5463
03:34:59,100 --> 03:35:02,100
shuts tane our service deliver.

5464
03:35:02,100 --> 03:35:05,601
I harp en on service delivery.

5465
03:35:06,100 --> 03:35:07,100
that's what we are, a service

5466
03:35:07,100 --> 03:35:09,100
delivery organization.

5467
03:35:10,100 --> 03:35:13,100
more so than anything else.

5468
03:35:15,100 --> 03:35:18,100
a compassion center or the

5469
03:35:19,100 --> 03:35:20,100
programs, when this commission

5470
03:35:20,100 --> 03:35:23,100
expressed it's desire to give

5471
03:35:23,100 --> 03:35:26,100
you -- you brought various

5472
03:35:27,100 --> 03:35:29,100
scenarios forward.

5473
03:35:29,100 --> 03:35:31,100
some instances we didn't agree

5474
03:35:31,100 --> 03:35:32,100
as to how it should be

5475
03:35:32,100 --> 03:35:34,100
structured.

5476
03:35:34,100 --> 03:35:36,100
you came back with alternatives

5477
03:35:36,100 --> 03:35:37,100
and so on.

5478
03:35:37,100 --> 03:35:40,100
so, I commend you for that

5479
03:35:40,100 --> 03:35:42,401
responsiveness to make hardcore

5480
03:35:47,100 --> 03:35:49,401
decisions on moving forward.

5481
03:35:50,100 --> 03:35:53,100
marshaled by the staff, part of

5482
03:35:53,100 --> 03:35:55,100
the credit goes to the police.

5483
03:35:55,100 --> 03:35:57,100
for the community, food

5484
03:35:57,100 --> 03:35:58,100
distribution program.

5485
03:35:58,100 --> 03:36:00,100
I think sunrise even though it

5486
03:36:00,100 --> 03:36:02,100
was really a regional thing

5487
03:36:02,100 --> 03:36:04,401
because many from surrounding

5488
03:36:09,100 --> 03:36:10,100
communities ben knitted.

5489
03:36:10,100 --> 03:36:12,100
I think we were a leader in how

5490
03:36:12,100 --> 03:36:13,100
we made it happen.

5491
03:36:13,100 --> 03:36:16,100
how we road it out.

5492
03:36:16,100 --> 03:36:18,100
we sustained it longer than most

5493
03:36:18,100 --> 03:36:20,100
other communities.

5494
03:36:22,100 --> 03:36:25,100
whether you pitched staff to one

5495
03:36:25,100 --> 03:36:28,100
area or the next you were able

5496
03:36:28,100 --> 03:36:31,100
to get your staff to be flexible

5497
03:36:31,100 --> 03:36:33,100
in that regard.

5498
03:36:33,100 --> 03:36:35,401
the drive-thru christmas stuff.

5499
03:36:39,100 --> 03:36:42,601
the fact is whatever people had

5500
03:36:46,100 --> 03:36:48,100
got not use to we brought an

5501
03:36:48,100 --> 03:36:51,100
alternative that was as close as

5502
03:36:51,100 --> 03:36:53,401
we could get to.

5503
03:36:59,100 --> 03:37:02,100
-- you get the credit.

5504
03:37:05,100 --> 03:37:08,601
transparency is a hell of a

5505
03:37:12,100 --> 03:37:13,100
thing.

5506
03:37:13,100 --> 03:37:14,100
if you don't know you don't

5507
03:37:14,100 --> 03:37:15,100
know.

5508
03:37:15,100 --> 03:37:17,100
if you don't tell me something.

5509
03:37:17,100 --> 03:37:20,100
a challenge I had with your

5510
03:37:20,100 --> 03:37:23,601
predecessor, I don't know -- was

5511
03:37:24,100 --> 03:37:26,100
I feel like I had to know the

5512
03:37:26,100 --> 03:37:28,100
right questions to ask.

5513
03:37:28,100 --> 03:37:30,100
it was like, it was like almost

5514
03:37:30,100 --> 03:37:32,100
like pulling teeth.

5515
03:37:32,100 --> 03:37:35,100
then when you know obviously you

5516
03:37:35,100 --> 03:37:37,100
guys are trained not to lie if

5517
03:37:37,100 --> 03:37:39,100
you're asked a direct question.

5518
03:37:39,100 --> 03:37:42,100
you know after quite a few

5519
03:37:42,100 --> 03:37:44,100
direct questions why the hell

5520
03:37:44,100 --> 03:37:46,100
didn't you tell me this before.

5521
03:37:46,100 --> 03:37:48,100
why did I have to needle into

5522
03:37:48,100 --> 03:37:50,100
you to get it out.

5523
03:37:50,100 --> 03:37:53,601
I won't say it hasn't happened

5524
03:37:56,100 --> 03:37:57,100
here.

5525
03:37:57,100 --> 03:37:59,100
would I chalk it up to a good

5526
03:37:59,100 --> 03:38:00,100
faith, I don't think you wanted

5527
03:38:00,100 --> 03:38:03,100
to know or I miss it thed.

5528
03:38:03,100 --> 03:38:05,100
whether you have been, it's hard

5529
03:38:05,100 --> 03:38:08,100
to tell in the structure that we

5530
03:38:08,100 --> 03:38:11,100
have with sunshine whether you

5531
03:38:11,100 --> 03:38:14,601
have told neil one thing and

5532
03:38:17,100 --> 03:38:19,100
told me something else or pitch

5533
03:38:19,100 --> 03:38:21,100
it differently to joey or what

5534
03:38:21,100 --> 03:38:22,100
not.

5535
03:38:22,100 --> 03:38:23,100
you know it's a commitment that

5536
03:38:23,100 --> 03:38:26,100
you have made and we expect you

5537
03:38:26,100 --> 03:38:28,401
to build on it

5538
03:38:31,100 --> 03:38:34,100
so, I can't, I have a pretty

5539
03:38:34,100 --> 03:38:36,100
good level of communication with

5540
03:38:36,100 --> 03:38:37,100
you.

5541
03:38:37,100 --> 03:38:40,601
I also know how to ask

5542
03:38:47,100 --> 03:38:48,100
questions.

5543
03:38:48,100 --> 03:38:51,100
we speak frankly on issues that

5544
03:38:51,100 --> 03:38:53,100
are a concern to me, initiatives

5545
03:38:53,100 --> 03:38:56,601
that were of importance to me,

5546
03:38:57,100 --> 03:39:00,100
we have been able to talk freely

5547
03:39:00,100 --> 03:39:01,100
about them.

5548
03:39:01,100 --> 03:39:04,601
you have been responsive to me

5549
03:39:05,100 --> 03:39:07,100
as one of your bosses.

5550
03:39:07,100 --> 03:39:10,100
so, from that perspective I

5551
03:39:16,100 --> 03:39:18,401
would say mostly satisfied.

5552
03:39:19,100 --> 03:39:22,601
on the employee side of things

5553
03:39:23,100 --> 03:39:25,401
in terms of initiatives

5554
03:39:26,100 --> 03:39:29,100
especially based on how it's

5555
03:39:29,100 --> 03:39:31,100
outlined here I have to commend

5556
03:39:31,100 --> 03:39:33,100
you.

5557
03:39:33,100 --> 03:39:35,100
everybody knows about my

5558
03:39:35,100 --> 03:39:37,100
challenges with performance

5559
03:39:39,100 --> 03:39:41,401
appraisals in the past.

5560
03:39:42,100 --> 03:39:46,100
I see here you have spoken to

5561
03:39:46,100 --> 03:39:48,100
performance evaluation training

5562
03:39:48,100 --> 03:39:50,100
for supervisors.

5563
03:39:50,100 --> 03:39:53,100
one of the comments or

5564
03:39:53,100 --> 03:39:55,100
criticisms that I previously

5565
03:39:55,100 --> 03:39:59,801
made was that I felt at the time

5566
03:40:00,100 --> 03:40:01,100
our performance appraisal

5567
03:40:01,100 --> 03:40:04,601
structure was used as a reward

5568
03:40:05,100 --> 03:40:07,100
and punishment mechanism and a

5569
03:40:07,100 --> 03:40:09,100
lack of consistency across

5570
03:40:09,100 --> 03:40:11,100
functional areas in terms of how

5571
03:40:11,100 --> 03:40:13,401
people evaluated their, their

5572
03:40:18,100 --> 03:40:20,100
subordinates.

5573
03:40:20,100 --> 03:40:22,100
I presume even though I will

5574
03:40:22,100 --> 03:40:24,100
probably ask you for some

5575
03:40:24,100 --> 03:40:26,100
further feedback on how this has

5576
03:40:26,100 --> 03:40:28,100
improved our systems.

5577
03:40:30,100 --> 03:40:32,100
for you to have taken this

5578
03:40:32,100 --> 03:40:34,100
forward and provided the

5579
03:40:34,100 --> 03:40:37,100
training to your supervisors is

5580
03:40:39,100 --> 03:40:41,401
obviously a responsive message

5581
03:40:42,100 --> 03:40:44,100
to what we had in that area.

5582
03:40:44,100 --> 03:40:45,100
to create a cons sis tent see

5583
03:40:45,100 --> 03:40:47,100
across the organization not only

5584
03:40:47,100 --> 03:40:49,100
in terms of the need to do it

5585
03:40:49,100 --> 03:40:52,601
but the goal of doing it.

5586
03:40:53,100 --> 03:40:56,100
the need to do it timely.

5587
03:40:56,100 --> 03:40:59,601
so, I commend you for that.

5588
03:41:00,100 --> 03:41:02,100
interview and slicks.

5589
03:41:02,100 --> 03:41:03,100
we have talked about, you

5590
03:41:03,100 --> 03:41:06,100
know -- not knocking engineers

5591
03:41:11,100 --> 03:41:12,100
but I will use one as an

5592
03:41:12,100 --> 03:41:13,100
example.

5593
03:41:13,100 --> 03:41:16,601
you may be a great one.

5594
03:41:17,100 --> 03:41:19,100
engineer is technical based

5595
03:41:19,100 --> 03:41:20,100
thing.

5596
03:41:20,100 --> 03:41:21,100
we have quite a few in the

5597
03:41:21,100 --> 03:41:22,100
organization.

5598
03:41:22,100 --> 03:41:24,100
you maybe a cop or whatever.

5599
03:41:24,100 --> 03:41:25,100
because of that capacity that

5600
03:41:25,100 --> 03:41:27,100
you have you end up in a

5601
03:41:27,100 --> 03:41:30,100
supervisor roll or big boss

5602
03:41:30,100 --> 03:41:31,100
roll.

5603
03:41:31,100 --> 03:41:34,601
you have never been trained --

5604
03:41:37,100 --> 03:41:39,100
[inaudible]

5605
03:41:39,100 --> 03:41:41,100
so you may have someone very

5606
03:41:41,100 --> 03:41:43,100
instrumental in selection and

5607
03:41:43,100 --> 03:41:46,100
training or interviewing or they

5608
03:41:47,100 --> 03:41:49,100
were not trained on how to do

5609
03:41:49,100 --> 03:41:50,100
it.

5610
03:41:50,100 --> 03:41:53,100
otherwise even given some basic

5611
03:41:54,100 --> 03:41:57,601
framework how do it fairly and

5612
03:41:58,100 --> 03:41:59,100
appropriately.

5613
03:41:59,100 --> 03:42:02,601
I see here again you indicated

5614
03:42:03,100 --> 03:42:06,100
that you developed -- training

5615
03:42:07,100 --> 03:42:09,100
for supervisors.

5616
03:42:09,100 --> 03:42:12,601
you know those of us listening.

5617
03:42:14,100 --> 03:42:16,100
I know you all are.

5618
03:42:16,100 --> 03:42:18,100
you have heard me comment about

5619
03:42:18,100 --> 03:42:19,100
a lack of diversity in the

5620
03:42:19,100 --> 03:42:21,100
organization at a certain point

5621
03:42:21,100 --> 03:42:22,100
in time.

5622
03:42:22,100 --> 03:42:24,100
I think part of that may of been

5623
03:42:24,100 --> 03:42:26,100
a weakness in this area in terms

5624
03:42:26,100 --> 03:42:28,401
of interview and selection.

5625
03:42:29,100 --> 03:42:32,100
because people may of used more

5626
03:42:32,100 --> 03:42:34,100
subjective basis for

5627
03:42:34,100 --> 03:42:36,100
interviewing and selecting

5628
03:42:37,100 --> 03:42:38,100
candidates.

5629
03:42:38,100 --> 03:42:41,100
more so than any deliberate

5630
03:42:41,100 --> 03:42:44,601
attempt to be, to create some

5631
03:42:51,100 --> 03:42:54,100
sort of a intentional bias

5632
03:42:55,100 --> 03:42:56,100
related decision.

5633
03:42:56,100 --> 03:43:00,100
so, these are all things I think

5634
03:43:00,100 --> 03:43:02,401
that strengthen the organization

5635
03:43:04,100 --> 03:43:06,100
and the structure of the

5636
03:43:06,100 --> 03:43:07,100
organization.

5637
03:43:07,100 --> 03:43:08,100
I commend you on those

5638
03:43:08,100 --> 03:43:09,100
initiatives.

5639
03:43:09,100 --> 03:43:11,100
grants.

5640
03:43:15,100 --> 03:43:17,100
you know some of these just

5641
03:43:17,100 --> 03:43:19,100
flowed.

5642
03:43:19,100 --> 03:43:22,100
we are always happy to get

5643
03:43:22,100 --> 03:43:23,100
money.

5644
03:43:23,100 --> 03:43:24,100
certainly we're always happy

5645
03:43:24,100 --> 03:43:26,401
when staff brings different

5646
03:43:27,100 --> 03:43:29,100
grant opportunities forward even

5647
03:43:29,100 --> 03:43:32,100
when we are not thing about it.

5648
03:43:32,100 --> 03:43:35,601
on the capitol project side I

5649
03:43:36,100 --> 03:43:37,100
don't know.

5650
03:43:37,100 --> 03:43:40,100
we have had some successes.

5651
03:43:40,100 --> 03:43:42,100
we have had some failures.

5652
03:43:42,100 --> 03:43:46,201
two big failures -- park and of

5653
03:43:48,100 --> 03:43:50,100
course currently we're kind of

5654
03:43:50,100 --> 03:43:53,100
hung up with the veterans park.

5655
03:43:53,100 --> 03:43:57,100
I don't know how much of to

5656
03:43:57,100 --> 03:43:58,100
blame on staff or not.

5657
03:43:58,100 --> 03:44:01,100
I know obviously the contractor

5658
03:44:01,100 --> 03:44:05,201
has the bulk of the blame here.

5659
03:44:07,100 --> 03:44:10,601
but I don't know whether there

5660
03:44:13,100 --> 03:44:16,100
was anything better we could of

5661
03:44:16,100 --> 03:44:17,100
done in terms of how we held

5662
03:44:17,100 --> 03:44:19,401
that contractor, managed the

5663
03:44:22,100 --> 03:44:25,601
contractor or held him to task

5664
03:44:28,100 --> 03:44:31,100
through various faces of the

5665
03:44:31,100 --> 03:44:32,100
project.

5666
03:44:32,100 --> 03:44:34,100
-- some of what has happened

5667
03:44:34,100 --> 03:44:35,100
here.

5668
03:44:35,100 --> 03:44:37,100
that is water under the bridge.

5669
03:44:37,100 --> 03:44:40,100
I can tell you that. We all have

5670
03:44:40,100 --> 03:44:41,100
learned from our failures in

5671
03:44:41,100 --> 03:44:42,100
this area.

5672
03:44:42,100 --> 03:44:46,801
I will be the first to take some

5673
03:44:47,100 --> 03:44:48,100
of it.

5674
03:44:48,100 --> 03:44:50,100
I will pass some of it down the

5675
03:44:50,100 --> 03:44:51,100
line.

5676
03:44:51,100 --> 03:44:54,601
really, really -- this one is

5677
03:44:56,100 --> 03:45:00,201
one that really I feel I haven't

5678
03:45:01,100 --> 03:45:04,100
done as much as I could to get

5679
03:45:04,100 --> 03:45:05,100
these projects completed on

5680
03:45:05,100 --> 03:45:07,100
time, on budget.

5681
03:45:07,100 --> 03:45:10,100
really holding the contractor to

5682
03:45:11,100 --> 03:45:12,100
the requirements of the

5683
03:45:12,100 --> 03:45:13,100
contract.

5684
03:45:13,100 --> 03:45:16,601
I know you will fix it

5685
03:45:19,100 --> 03:45:21,100
you will get it fixed.

5686
03:45:21,100 --> 03:45:24,100
generally I think you know

5687
03:45:27,100 --> 03:45:29,100
obviously you have had the

5688
03:45:29,100 --> 03:45:31,100
learning curve being assistant

5689
03:45:31,100 --> 03:45:33,100
city manager.

5690
03:45:33,100 --> 03:45:34,100
that gave you the opportunity to

5691
03:45:34,100 --> 03:45:37,100
be more responsive as second in

5692
03:45:37,100 --> 03:45:39,100
command as my colleague pointed

5693
03:45:39,100 --> 03:45:40,100
out.

5694
03:45:40,100 --> 03:45:42,100
now you're the head cook and

5695
03:45:42,100 --> 03:45:44,100
bottle washer you we don't have

5696
03:45:44,100 --> 03:45:46,100
as much time to get into the

5697
03:45:46,100 --> 03:45:47,100
weeds.

5698
03:45:47,100 --> 03:45:48,100
obviously there is a learning

5699
03:45:48,100 --> 03:45:49,100
curve.

5700
03:45:49,100 --> 03:45:52,100
I think you have done well as

5701
03:45:52,100 --> 03:45:54,100
our city manager especially in a

5702
03:45:54,100 --> 03:45:56,100
very challenging year.

5703
03:45:56,100 --> 03:45:59,100
I look forward to continuing to

5704
03:45:59,100 --> 03:46:01,100
work with you in the period that

5705
03:46:01,100 --> 03:46:05,201
I have left in my tenure which

5706
03:46:09,100 --> 03:46:11,100
is the only one I have three

5707
03:46:11,100 --> 03:46:12,100
years.

5708
03:46:12,100 --> 03:46:13,100
god willing my health holds and

5709
03:46:13,100 --> 03:46:15,100
I'm still alive.

5710
03:46:15,100 --> 03:46:17,100
I look forward to your continued

5711
03:46:17,100 --> 03:46:18,100
growth in the position and your

5712
03:46:18,100 --> 03:46:20,100
leadership in helping to

5713
03:46:20,100 --> 03:46:22,100
strengthen the city and delivery

5714
03:46:22,100 --> 03:46:24,100
of service that's we're here to

5715
03:46:24,100 --> 03:46:26,100
do.

5716
03:46:27,642 --> 03:46:28,319
>> thank you commissioner

5717
03:46:28,319 --> 03:46:29,157
douglas.

5718
03:46:29,157 --> 03:46:30,000
assistant deputy mayor guzman.

5719
03:46:30,000 --> 03:46:33,100
>> we have known each other for

5720
03:46:33,100 --> 03:46:35,100
eight or nine months.

5721
03:46:35,100 --> 03:46:37,100
when I first came in you know

5722
03:46:37,100 --> 03:46:39,100
there was some tension there.

5723
03:46:39,100 --> 03:46:40,100
you getting to know me.

5724
03:46:40,100 --> 03:46:42,100
me getting to know you.

5725
03:46:42,100 --> 03:46:45,100
I mentioned transparency being a

5726
03:46:45,100 --> 03:46:46,100
big thing.

5727
03:46:46,100 --> 03:46:48,100
I'm completely open and honest.

5728
03:46:48,100 --> 03:46:50,100
I expect that in return.

5729
03:46:50,100 --> 03:46:51,100
like commissioner douglas

5730
03:46:51,100 --> 03:46:53,100
mentioned sometimes you have to

5731
03:46:53,100 --> 03:46:55,100
ask the right questions to get

5732
03:46:55,100 --> 03:46:57,100
the answers.

5733
03:47:03,000 --> 03:47:05,100
sometimes I felt I was pulling

5734
03:47:05,100 --> 03:47:06,100
teeth at times.

5735
03:47:06,100 --> 03:47:08,100
I think at this point we have

5736
03:47:08,100 --> 03:47:11,100
come to that mutual relationship

5737
03:47:11,100 --> 03:47:13,100
where we understand where we're

5738
03:47:13,100 --> 03:47:15,100
both going with certain things.

5739
03:47:15,100 --> 03:47:18,601
I feel much better talking to

5740
03:47:20,100 --> 03:47:22,100
you than I did in the beginning.

5741
03:47:22,100 --> 03:47:24,100
the short year you have been in

5742
03:47:24,100 --> 03:47:27,100
this particular roll, if anyone

5743
03:47:27,100 --> 03:47:28,100
at home is reading this,

5744
03:47:28,100 --> 03:47:29,100
everything you have here is

5745
03:47:29,100 --> 03:47:31,100
pretty impressive.

5746
03:47:31,100 --> 03:47:33,100
thank you for dealing with

5747
03:47:33,100 --> 03:47:34,100
covid.

5748
03:47:34,100 --> 03:47:38,201
I will point out a few things

5749
03:47:40,100 --> 03:47:42,100
that have been mentioned.

5750
03:47:42,100 --> 03:47:44,100
I felt we lacked some

5751
03:47:44,100 --> 03:47:45,100
information and I was

5752
03:47:45,100 --> 03:47:46,100
disappointed there.

5753
03:47:46,100 --> 03:47:48,100
I am sure you know moving

5754
03:47:48,100 --> 03:47:50,100
forward to be ready next time.

5755
03:47:50,100 --> 03:47:53,100
something I have noticed that I

5756
03:47:53,100 --> 03:47:54,100
would like to see a little more

5757
03:47:54,100 --> 03:47:56,100
from you alike the e-mails.

5758
03:47:56,100 --> 03:47:58,401
I'm an e-mail person.

5759
03:47:59,100 --> 03:48:01,100
I send e-mails 24/7.

5760
03:48:02,100 --> 03:48:03,100
I know sometimes it's

5761
03:48:03,100 --> 03:48:05,100
overwhelming because you get so

5762
03:48:05,100 --> 03:48:06,100
many.

5763
03:48:06,100 --> 03:48:07,100
I totally understand that.

5764
03:48:07,100 --> 03:48:09,100
sometimes I do wish I did get

5765
03:48:09,100 --> 03:48:10,100
some response.

5766
03:48:10,100 --> 03:48:11,100
I don't know if there is a way

5767
03:48:11,100 --> 03:48:14,100
to get someone help you manage

5768
03:48:14,100 --> 03:48:15,100
your e-mails.

5769
03:48:15,100 --> 03:48:17,100
I'm sure you're bombarded with

5770
03:48:17,100 --> 03:48:18,100
those.

5771
03:48:18,100 --> 03:48:20,100
I wanted to add I know what I

5772
03:48:20,100 --> 03:48:22,100
did for start you put together

5773
03:48:22,100 --> 03:48:24,100
an employee performance or

5774
03:48:24,100 --> 03:48:26,100
survey of some sort.

5775
03:48:26,100 --> 03:48:27,100
that's how you decided to move

5776
03:48:27,100 --> 03:48:29,100
forward with the employee

5777
03:48:29,100 --> 03:48:30,100
initiative.

5778
03:48:30,100 --> 03:48:31,100
my question was, I mean I just

5779
03:48:31,100 --> 03:48:33,100
wanted to know if there is a way

5780
03:48:33,100 --> 03:48:35,401
to obtain those particular

5781
03:48:36,100 --> 03:48:37,100
comments and copies from each

5782
03:48:37,100 --> 03:48:39,100
staff member that you guys

5783
03:48:39,100 --> 03:48:41,100
collected, some how.

5784
03:48:41,100 --> 03:48:43,100
so we have a better understand

5785
03:48:43,100 --> 03:48:44,100
on what is going on as an

5786
03:48:44,100 --> 03:48:46,100
employee behind the scenes.

5787
03:48:46,100 --> 03:48:48,100
a lot of times they're kind of

5788
03:48:48,100 --> 03:48:49,100
scared to come forward.

5789
03:48:49,100 --> 03:48:51,100
if there is a situation

5790
03:48:51,100 --> 03:48:52,100
regarding the department or

5791
03:48:52,100 --> 03:48:54,100
staff, colleagues, supervisors,

5792
03:48:55,100 --> 03:48:56,100
directors.

5793
03:48:56,100 --> 03:48:58,100
so I want, you know if we do a

5794
03:48:58,100 --> 03:49:00,100
survey in the future I want them

5795
03:49:00,100 --> 03:49:02,100
to know that we as a commission

5796
03:49:02,100 --> 03:49:05,100
are looking at it and are being

5797
03:49:05,100 --> 03:49:08,100
responsive to it, if need be.

5798
03:49:08,100 --> 03:49:10,100
if not just going into an

5799
03:49:10,100 --> 03:49:11,100
on-line survey and nobody is

5800
03:49:11,100 --> 03:49:12,100
looking.

5801
03:49:12,100 --> 03:49:15,100
I think what we got from that is

5802
03:49:15,100 --> 03:49:17,100
79% were all happy.

5803
03:49:18,100 --> 03:49:20,100
the other percent are medium.

5804
03:49:20,100 --> 03:49:22,100
I want to get more details on

5805
03:49:22,100 --> 03:49:25,100
those particular, you know other

5806
03:49:25,100 --> 03:49:27,100
percentages that are not so

5807
03:49:27,100 --> 03:49:28,100
happy.

5808
03:49:28,100 --> 03:49:31,100
there are a couple of more

5809
03:49:31,100 --> 03:49:32,100
things.

5810
03:49:32,100 --> 03:49:33,100
I think that's pretty much it.

5811
03:49:33,100 --> 03:49:34,100
just thank you.

5812
03:49:34,100 --> 03:49:37,100
I'm looking forward to my,

5813
03:49:37,100 --> 03:49:39,100
hopefully more terms here and

5814
03:49:39,100 --> 03:49:42,601
being with you and your team.

5815
03:49:43,100 --> 03:49:44,100
they're a big part of that,

5816
03:49:44,100 --> 03:49:46,100
thank you to them as well.

5817
03:49:46,100 --> 03:49:50,201
for the most part thank you for

5818
03:49:52,100 --> 03:49:53,100
everything you have done.

5819
03:49:53,100 --> 03:49:54,100
right.

5820
03:49:54,100 --> 03:49:55,100
>> alright.

5821
03:49:55,100 --> 03:49:56,100
>> thank you, deputy mayor.

5822
03:49:56,100 --> 03:49:58,100
mark, part what had we're doing

5823
03:49:58,100 --> 03:50:01,601
here tonight is not only talking

5824
03:50:03,100 --> 03:50:06,100
to you but we're also talking to

5825
03:50:06,100 --> 03:50:07,100
the community.

5826
03:50:07,100 --> 03:50:09,401
equally important talking to

5827
03:50:10,100 --> 03:50:11,100
your staff.

5828
03:50:11,100 --> 03:50:13,100
because of the time, we still

5829
03:50:13,100 --> 03:50:14,100
have other reviews to do

5830
03:50:14,100 --> 03:50:15,100
tonight.

5831
03:50:15,100 --> 03:50:18,100
I will truncate and adopt a lot

5832
03:50:18,100 --> 03:50:20,401
of comments already made.

5833
03:50:21,100 --> 03:50:23,100
I thank you for the outline of

5834
03:50:23,100 --> 03:50:25,100
accomplishments as well as

5835
03:50:25,100 --> 03:50:27,100
suggestions in areas that you

5836
03:50:27,100 --> 03:50:30,100
know we need to, as a city, look

5837
03:50:30,100 --> 03:50:31,100
at in the future.

5838
03:50:31,100 --> 03:50:33,100
on a personal level I want to

5839
03:50:33,100 --> 03:50:35,100
thank you for your honesty and

5840
03:50:35,100 --> 03:50:36,100
transparency.

5841
03:50:36,100 --> 03:50:38,401
your willingness to challenge

5842
03:50:41,100 --> 03:50:43,100
ideas and do it in a way that is

5843
03:50:43,100 --> 03:50:45,100
always based upon the facts and

5844
03:50:45,100 --> 03:50:47,100
the best interest of the city.

5845
03:50:47,100 --> 03:50:50,100
it's hard to translate that into

5846
03:50:50,100 --> 03:50:51,100
a review.

5847
03:50:51,100 --> 03:50:53,100
I think my colleagues have at

5848
03:50:53,100 --> 03:50:55,100
various times commented the same

5849
03:50:55,100 --> 03:50:56,100
way.

5850
03:50:56,100 --> 03:50:58,100
they appreciate your honesty.

5851
03:50:58,100 --> 03:50:59,100
it's something that is not

5852
03:50:59,100 --> 03:51:01,100
identified as a bullet point in

5853
03:51:01,100 --> 03:51:03,100
what you provided as backup.

5854
03:51:03,100 --> 03:51:06,100
it's so incredibly important as

5855
03:51:06,100 --> 03:51:09,100
each of us navigate, not only

5856
03:51:09,100 --> 03:51:12,100
the issues for sunrise but we

5857
03:51:12,100 --> 03:51:14,100
each have some roll and regional

5858
03:51:14,100 --> 03:51:17,100
issues and your advice and

5859
03:51:17,100 --> 03:51:19,100
experience, relationships

5860
03:51:19,100 --> 03:51:20,100
throughout the county are

5861
03:51:20,100 --> 03:51:22,100
incredibly important.

5862
03:51:24,100 --> 03:51:26,100
in short I'm a hundred percent

5863
03:51:26,100 --> 03:51:28,100
supportive in you mark, in all

5864
03:51:28,100 --> 03:51:30,100
you have done for us.

5865
03:51:30,100 --> 03:51:33,100
I feel blessed you're our city

5866
03:51:33,100 --> 03:51:35,100
manager through this difficult

5867
03:51:35,100 --> 03:51:36,100
time.

5868
03:51:36,100 --> 03:51:37,100
we have had some very tough

5869
03:51:37,100 --> 03:51:39,100
conversations about how to

5870
03:51:39,100 --> 03:51:40,100
handle covid.

5871
03:51:40,100 --> 03:51:42,100
it's not something that there is

5872
03:51:42,100 --> 03:51:43,100
a play book.

5873
03:51:43,100 --> 03:51:44,100
you have had to work through

5874
03:51:44,100 --> 03:51:47,100
this in a challenging way.

5875
03:51:47,100 --> 03:51:50,100
I appreciate that as I'm sure my

5876
03:51:50,100 --> 03:51:51,100
colleagues do.

5877
03:51:51,100 --> 03:51:53,100
that you're always there to

5878
03:51:53,100 --> 03:51:55,100
provide honest and complete

5879
03:51:55,100 --> 03:51:57,100
discussion addressing each of my

5880
03:51:57,100 --> 03:51:59,100
points and then trying to adopt

5881
03:51:59,100 --> 03:52:02,100
the best policies for city.

5882
03:52:04,100 --> 03:52:06,100
thank you for your commitment to

5883
03:52:06,100 --> 03:52:07,100
the city.

5884
03:52:07,100 --> 03:52:09,100
I look forward to working with

5885
03:52:09,100 --> 03:52:11,100
you directly over the next year.

5886
03:52:11,100 --> 03:52:13,100
>> thank you, mayor.

5887
03:52:13,100 --> 03:52:15,100
I think when we first met you

5888
03:52:15,100 --> 03:52:17,100
were the community development

5889
03:52:17,100 --> 03:52:18,100
director.

5890
03:52:18,100 --> 03:52:20,401
then assistant city manager.

5891
03:52:21,100 --> 03:52:24,100
now city manager for the last 18

5892
03:52:24,100 --> 03:52:26,100
months, 17 months.

5893
03:52:26,100 --> 03:52:27,100
>> since july.

5894
03:52:27,100 --> 03:52:29,100
>> july, okay.

5895
03:52:30,100 --> 03:52:33,100
I echo a lot of my colleagues

5896
03:52:33,100 --> 03:52:35,100
comments tonight.

5897
03:52:36,100 --> 03:52:39,601
I had a opportunity to review

5898
03:52:40,100 --> 03:52:42,100
the city memorandum and the

5899
03:52:42,100 --> 03:52:44,100
budget to see how that's

5900
03:52:44,100 --> 03:52:45,100
structured and organized this

5901
03:52:45,100 --> 03:52:46,100
year.

5902
03:52:46,100 --> 03:52:47,100
e-mails.

5903
03:52:47,100 --> 03:52:49,100
I get a lot of e-mails from you.

5904
03:52:49,100 --> 03:52:52,601
the action line reporting that I

5905
03:52:54,100 --> 03:52:56,100
think is instrumental over the

5906
03:52:56,100 --> 03:52:58,100
last year as well as the change

5907
03:52:58,100 --> 03:53:00,100
order tracking reports.

5908
03:53:01,100 --> 03:53:03,401
I really appreciate that.

5909
03:53:04,100 --> 03:53:07,601
it's hard to keep everything on

5910
03:53:10,100 --> 03:53:11,100
your mind.

5911
03:53:11,100 --> 03:53:15,201
I have to look and see what

5912
03:53:23,100 --> 03:53:24,100
you're tracking.

5913
03:53:24,100 --> 03:53:27,100
all of this demonstrates your

5914
03:53:30,100 --> 03:53:32,100
achievements as city manager

5915
03:53:32,100 --> 03:53:34,100
last year and this year.

5916
03:53:34,100 --> 03:53:36,100
with your respect to decision

5917
03:53:36,100 --> 03:53:39,100
making and judgements I feel you

5918
03:53:39,100 --> 03:53:41,100
demonstrate analysis for

5919
03:53:43,100 --> 03:53:45,100
progress, opportunities, and

5920
03:53:45,100 --> 03:53:47,100
needs and changes for sunrise

5921
03:53:47,100 --> 03:53:49,100
and the city organization.

5922
03:53:49,100 --> 03:53:51,100
your advice and guidance to me

5923
03:53:51,100 --> 03:53:53,100
has been instrumental in my

5924
03:53:53,100 --> 03:53:54,100
decision making.

5925
03:53:54,100 --> 03:53:56,100
I believe your guidance and

5926
03:53:56,100 --> 03:53:57,100
decision making has been

5927
03:53:57,100 --> 03:53:59,100
instrumental to the city success

5928
03:53:59,100 --> 03:54:01,100
this year.

5929
03:54:01,100 --> 03:54:02,100
with respect to your personal

5930
03:54:02,100 --> 03:54:04,100
development I find that you

5931
03:54:04,100 --> 03:54:07,100
recruit and retain a diverse

5932
03:54:07,100 --> 03:54:08,100
staff.

5933
03:54:08,100 --> 03:54:10,100
I think the addition of sean and

5934
03:54:10,100 --> 03:54:12,100
other executive management

5935
03:54:12,100 --> 03:54:14,100
personnel to the city manager

5936
03:54:14,100 --> 03:54:16,100
office and leadership team has

5937
03:54:16,100 --> 03:54:18,100
been instrumental to our success

5938
03:54:18,100 --> 03:54:19,100
as well.

5939
03:54:19,100 --> 03:54:21,100
I don't think we would of had

5940
03:54:21,100 --> 03:54:23,100
the same success without those

5941
03:54:23,100 --> 03:54:25,401
team members being present.

5942
03:54:28,100 --> 03:54:30,100
although I'm giving you the

5943
03:54:30,100 --> 03:54:32,100
review, I am reviewing your

5944
03:54:32,100 --> 03:54:34,100
executive management team.

5945
03:54:34,100 --> 03:54:36,100
I think you do have a great

5946
03:54:36,100 --> 03:54:38,100
executive management team to

5947
03:54:38,100 --> 03:54:40,401
continue making you successful.

5948
03:54:42,100 --> 03:54:45,100
I hope these words carry down to

5949
03:54:45,100 --> 03:54:46,100
them.

5950
03:54:46,100 --> 03:54:48,100
the reporting as I said, over

5951
03:54:48,100 --> 03:54:51,100
our last city manager I almost

5952
03:54:51,100 --> 03:54:53,100
felt like everything was a choke

5953
03:54:53,100 --> 03:54:54,100
point.

5954
03:54:54,100 --> 03:54:55,100
where it would go to him.

5955
03:54:55,100 --> 03:54:57,100
he would have the ultimate say

5956
03:54:57,100 --> 03:54:58,100
and nothing else would get out.

5957
03:54:58,100 --> 03:55:00,100
I feel with your management,

5958
03:55:00,100 --> 03:55:03,100
leadership style I can get an

5959
03:55:03,100 --> 03:55:06,100
e-mail from sean or emily or tim

5960
03:55:06,100 --> 03:55:08,100
or kevin.

5961
03:55:08,100 --> 03:55:10,100
I almost feel there is a

5962
03:55:10,100 --> 03:55:11,100
delegation.

5963
03:55:11,100 --> 03:55:13,100
that you truly trust your staff

5964
03:55:13,100 --> 03:55:15,100
members and the reporting and

5965
03:55:15,100 --> 03:55:18,100
quality of reporting over the

5966
03:55:18,100 --> 03:55:20,100
last year has greatly increased.

5967
03:55:20,100 --> 03:55:22,100
I think that demonstrates your

5968
03:55:22,100 --> 03:55:24,100
trust in your staff and making

5969
03:55:24,100 --> 03:55:25,100
sure our organization is

5970
03:55:25,100 --> 03:55:26,100
successful.

5971
03:55:26,100 --> 03:55:28,100
I congratulate you on that.

5972
03:55:28,100 --> 03:55:31,100
I think that's the proper

5973
03:55:31,100 --> 03:55:33,100
leadership style in this day of

5974
03:55:33,100 --> 03:55:35,100
age for our organization.

5975
03:55:35,100 --> 03:55:36,100
I think that's reflected

5976
03:55:36,100 --> 03:55:39,100
throughout all of our charter

5977
03:55:39,100 --> 03:55:41,100
officers as we will address them

5978
03:55:41,100 --> 03:55:42,100
later on.

5979
03:55:42,100 --> 03:55:44,100
I think your planning and

5980
03:55:44,100 --> 03:55:45,100
organizing skills are very good.

5981
03:55:45,100 --> 03:55:48,100
I think you work well with the

5982
03:55:48,100 --> 03:55:49,100
commission and executive

5983
03:55:49,100 --> 03:55:51,100
management team.

5984
03:55:51,100 --> 03:55:52,100
I think you are developing

5985
03:55:52,100 --> 03:55:54,401
strategies constantly to achieve

5986
03:55:55,100 --> 03:55:57,100
the city goals.

5987
03:55:57,100 --> 03:55:59,100
most fiscally and financially.

5988
03:55:59,100 --> 03:56:02,100
I'm happy you presented a

5989
03:56:02,100 --> 03:56:04,100
structured balanced budget this

5990
03:56:04,100 --> 03:56:06,100
year.

5991
03:56:07,100 --> 03:56:10,100
I am amazed with your covid

5992
03:56:10,100 --> 03:56:12,100
pandemic response initiatives.

5993
03:56:12,100 --> 03:56:14,100
I think that's been instrumental

5994
03:56:14,100 --> 03:56:16,100
for us and our community as a

5995
03:56:16,100 --> 03:56:18,100
whole.

5996
03:56:18,100 --> 03:56:20,100
your interpersonal skills, I

5997
03:56:20,100 --> 03:56:21,100
think you continue to build

5998
03:56:21,100 --> 03:56:23,100
respect throughout our

5999
03:56:24,100 --> 03:56:25,100
organization.

6000
03:56:25,100 --> 03:56:28,601
I know when we hired you

6001
03:56:29,100 --> 03:56:32,100
everyone was happy I think you

6002
03:56:32,100 --> 03:56:33,100
raised the row file for the city

6003
03:56:33,100 --> 03:56:34,100
of sunrise.

6004
03:56:34,100 --> 03:56:38,100
I find you work well with your

6005
03:56:38,100 --> 03:56:39,100
staff.

6006
03:56:39,100 --> 03:56:40,100
finance committee, charter

6007
03:56:40,100 --> 03:56:42,100
officer commission, preparing

6008
03:56:42,100 --> 03:56:44,100
the budgets, monitoring,

6009
03:56:45,100 --> 03:56:47,100
initiating changes like the

6010
03:56:47,100 --> 03:56:49,100
covid pandemic we had to go

6011
03:56:49,100 --> 03:56:50,100
through.

6012
03:56:50,100 --> 03:56:52,100
I do find your interpersonal

6013
03:56:52,100 --> 03:56:54,100
skills very well.

6014
03:56:54,100 --> 03:56:57,100
I feel you have kept me fully

6015
03:56:57,100 --> 03:57:00,100
informed in a time leeway.

6016
03:57:00,100 --> 03:57:02,100
the important factors.

6017
03:57:04,100 --> 03:57:05,100
this is evidence from the

6018
03:57:05,100 --> 03:57:07,100
numerous e-mails and phone calls

6019
03:57:07,100 --> 03:57:08,100
that which have.

6020
03:57:08,100 --> 03:57:10,100
I feel you have provided me

6021
03:57:10,100 --> 03:57:12,100
support and back up for

6022
03:57:12,100 --> 03:57:14,100
ordinances, resolutions,

6023
03:57:14,100 --> 03:57:16,401
economic development, long term

6024
03:57:17,100 --> 03:57:18,100
community planning,

6025
03:57:18,100 --> 03:57:20,100
infrastructure improvements and

6026
03:57:20,100 --> 03:57:21,100
personal issues with the

6027
03:57:21,100 --> 03:57:22,100
organization.

6028
03:57:22,100 --> 03:57:24,100
I do believe you represent the

6029
03:57:24,100 --> 03:57:27,100
city well to it's constituents,

6030
03:57:27,100 --> 03:57:28,100
government agencies, other

6031
03:57:28,100 --> 03:57:29,100
elected officials and the

6032
03:57:29,100 --> 03:57:30,100
general public.

6033
03:57:30,100 --> 03:57:32,100
we have recognized our

6034
03:57:32,100 --> 03:57:33,100
commission, our commission

6035
03:57:33,100 --> 03:57:36,100
recognizes you and our staff.

6036
03:57:36,100 --> 03:57:39,100
I'm sure that trend will

6037
03:57:39,100 --> 03:57:40,100
continue.

6038
03:57:40,100 --> 03:57:43,601
I like when you push back.

6039
03:57:44,100 --> 03:57:45,100
I don't want someone sitting if

6040
03:57:45,100 --> 03:57:47,100
the chair that will just let

6041
03:57:47,100 --> 03:57:48,100
people walk over them.

6042
03:57:48,100 --> 03:57:52,100
I have seen you force on issues

6043
03:57:52,100 --> 03:57:54,100
up here and you maintain your

6044
03:57:54,100 --> 03:57:55,100
ground.

6045
03:57:55,100 --> 03:57:56,100
I do respect that.

6046
03:57:56,100 --> 03:57:57,100
I hope that continues.

6047
03:57:57,100 --> 03:58:00,100
I like when you say you're

6048
03:58:00,100 --> 03:58:03,100
transparent as we were in the

6049
03:58:03,100 --> 03:58:05,401
residents leadership academy the

6050
03:58:06,100 --> 03:58:08,100
other day it was easy to talk

6051
03:58:08,100 --> 03:58:09,100
about our successes.

6052
03:58:09,100 --> 03:58:11,100
part of transparency is

6053
03:58:11,100 --> 03:58:13,100
recognizing our failures.

6054
03:58:13,100 --> 03:58:16,100
it's at times hard to do.

6055
03:58:16,100 --> 03:58:18,100
it's our job to recognize that,

6056
03:58:18,100 --> 03:58:20,100
learn from that and move on.

6057
03:58:20,100 --> 03:58:22,100
I think that's an admirable

6058
03:58:22,100 --> 03:58:23,100
quality to have.

6059
03:58:23,100 --> 03:58:25,100
I think more people learn twice

6060
03:58:25,100 --> 03:58:28,100
as much from failures than any

6061
03:58:28,100 --> 03:58:29,100
successes.

6062
03:58:29,100 --> 03:58:31,100
as we move forward I'm confident

6063
03:58:31,100 --> 03:58:34,100
in your ability to lead our

6064
03:58:34,100 --> 03:58:35,100
organization.

6065
03:58:35,100 --> 03:58:38,100
I am also confident you will

6066
03:58:38,100 --> 03:58:40,100
assure adequate control and

6067
03:58:40,100 --> 03:58:42,401
funding with maintaining sound

6068
03:58:43,100 --> 03:58:45,100
financial practices through our

6069
03:58:45,100 --> 03:58:46,100
organization.

6070
03:58:46,100 --> 03:58:47,100
as evidence tonight.

6071
03:58:47,100 --> 03:58:50,100
is there something we ask do.

6072
03:58:50,100 --> 03:58:51,100
as much as everyone would like

6073
03:58:51,100 --> 03:58:53,100
to get involved in that ish a

6074
03:58:53,100 --> 03:58:56,100
that was the right call, right

6075
03:58:56,100 --> 03:58:57,100
judgment.

6076
03:58:57,100 --> 03:59:01,100
I do believe you're doing a very

6077
03:59:01,100 --> 03:59:03,100
good job for the time you have

6078
03:59:03,100 --> 03:59:04,100
been here.

6079
03:59:04,100 --> 03:59:05,100
I look forward to working with

6080
03:59:05,100 --> 03:59:06,100
you.

6081
03:59:06,100 --> 03:59:08,100
wish you continued success.

6082
03:59:08,100 --> 03:59:11,100
I do find your review favorable.

6083
03:59:11,100 --> 03:59:13,100
thank you.

6084
03:59:14,100 --> 03:59:16,100
anyone else?

6085
03:59:16,100 --> 03:59:18,100
>> I just want to add one more

6086
03:59:18,100 --> 03:59:19,100
thing.

6087
03:59:19,100 --> 03:59:20,100
I want to say thank you.

6088
03:59:20,100 --> 03:59:22,100
there have been times I call you

6089
03:59:22,100 --> 03:59:24,100
considering resident concerns,

6090
03:59:24,100 --> 03:59:26,100
you have been pretty responsive.

6091
03:59:26,100 --> 03:59:28,100
I appreciate that. You're on top

6092
03:59:28,100 --> 03:59:29,100
of that.

6093
03:59:29,100 --> 03:59:30,100
thank you.

6094
03:59:30,100 --> 03:59:33,100
>> so now that we have done the

6095
03:59:33,100 --> 03:59:36,100
performance review is there an

6096
03:59:36,100 --> 03:59:39,601
issue on whether there is merit

6097
03:59:40,100 --> 03:59:41,100
increase or payment, is that

6098
03:59:41,100 --> 03:59:43,100
something we address this

6099
03:59:43,100 --> 03:59:44,100
evening?

6100
03:59:44,100 --> 03:59:45,100
how is the commission doing

6101
03:59:45,100 --> 03:59:47,100
this?

6102
03:59:47,100 --> 03:59:50,100
>> is that somewhere here in the

6103
03:59:50,100 --> 03:59:52,100
packet?

6104
03:59:53,806 --> 03:59:55,806
(lost audio)

6105
04:00:03,000 --> 04:00:05,000
>> page --

6106
04:00:09,100 --> 04:00:11,100
>> I don't have the benefit of a

6107
04:00:11,100 --> 04:00:12,100
book.

6108
04:00:12,100 --> 04:00:13,100
you see what it looks like.

6109
04:00:13,100 --> 04:00:15,100
the agenda item.

6110
04:00:17,950 --> 04:00:18,182
>> 16.

6111
04:00:18,182 --> 04:00:19,358
>> 17d.

6112
04:00:19,358 --> 04:00:21,358
>> 17d.

6113
04:00:30,508 --> 04:00:32,508
>> 17d.

6114
04:00:33,100 --> 04:00:34,100
>> background --

6115
04:00:34,100 --> 04:00:36,100
>> I found it

6116
04:00:36,100 --> 04:00:38,401
>> okay 2.5% is the standard

6117
04:00:43,100 --> 04:00:44,100
step.

6118
04:00:44,100 --> 04:00:48,201
I don't want to weight in what

6119
04:00:52,100 --> 04:00:53,100
he deserves.

6120
04:00:53,100 --> 04:00:55,100
I think at this stage with all

6121
04:00:55,100 --> 04:00:57,100
going on I wouldn't want to go

6122
04:00:57,100 --> 04:00:58,100
beyond that.

6123
04:00:58,100 --> 04:01:01,100
so, you know, I would propose a

6124
04:01:01,100 --> 04:01:03,100
2.5% merit increase.

6125
04:01:04,100 --> 04:01:07,100
obviously everyone gets -- and

6126
04:01:08,100 --> 04:01:09,100
what not.

6127
04:01:09,100 --> 04:01:12,100
as it relates to the merit

6128
04:01:12,100 --> 04:01:15,100
performance review I would I

6129
04:01:21,100 --> 04:01:22,100
would propose one step.

6130
04:01:22,100 --> 04:01:23,100
>> one step.

6131
04:01:23,100 --> 04:01:24,100
>> second.

6132
04:01:24,100 --> 04:01:26,100
>> commissioner scuotto.

6133
04:01:27,100 --> 04:01:28,100
>> I agree.

6134
04:01:28,100 --> 04:01:30,100
>> assistant deputy mayor.

6135
04:01:30,100 --> 04:01:31,100
>> third that.

6136
04:01:31,100 --> 04:01:32,100
>> mayor ryan.

6137
04:01:32,100 --> 04:01:34,100
>> I support.

6138
04:01:34,100 --> 04:01:37,100
>> I won't get in your way, sir.

6139
04:01:37,100 --> 04:01:39,100
congratulations.

6140
04:01:43,100 --> 04:01:44,100
>> thank you, very much.

6141
04:01:44,100 --> 04:01:45,100
I look forward working with the

6142
04:01:45,100 --> 04:01:46,100
commission moving forward.

6143
04:01:46,100 --> 04:01:48,100
I want to thank the header ship

6144
04:01:48,100 --> 04:01:50,100
team and support.

6145
04:01:50,100 --> 04:01:51,100
none of this happens without

6146
04:01:51,100 --> 04:01:52,100
their work.

6147
04:01:52,100 --> 04:01:54,100
>> good job.

6148
04:01:58,100 --> 04:01:59,100
>> alright next one.

6149
04:01:59,100 --> 04:02:01,100
>> -- two minute.

6150
04:02:01,100 --> 04:02:04,601
>> let's, we have been going at

6151
04:02:05,100 --> 04:02:07,100
it for 2: 15.

6152
04:02:09,100 --> 04:02:12,100
let's take a fine minute recess

6153
04:02:12,100 --> 04:02:14,100
and reset.

6154
04:03:47,100 --> 04:03:49,100
>> video guys, ready?

6155
04:03:50,100 --> 04:03:52,100
ms. Bravo, ready.

6156
04:03:55,100 --> 04:03:56,100
>> yes, cementer.

6157
04:03:56,100 --> 04:03:57,100
>> we will reconvene the

6158
04:03:57,100 --> 04:03:58,100
meeting.

6159
04:03:58,100 --> 04:04:00,100
give the thumbs up to the video

6160
04:04:00,100 --> 04:04:01,100
guys.

6161
04:04:01,100 --> 04:04:03,100
we're on 17e.

6162
04:04:13,100 --> 04:04:16,601
ms. Kisslan the floor is yours.

6163
04:04:20,100 --> 04:04:21,100
>> thank you.

6164
04:04:21,100 --> 04:04:24,601
I will read my significants line

6165
04:04:25,100 --> 04:04:26,100
by line.

6166
04:04:26,100 --> 04:04:27,100
no.

6167
04:04:27,100 --> 04:04:29,100
attached to the agenda is my

6168
04:04:29,100 --> 04:04:30,100
summary of significant

6169
04:04:30,100 --> 04:04:32,100
activities during my last

6170
04:04:32,100 --> 04:04:34,100
performance year july 1 through

6171
04:04:34,100 --> 04:04:35,100
june 30.

6172
04:04:35,100 --> 04:04:37,100
I provide you regular monthly

6173
04:04:37,100 --> 04:04:38,100
reports.

6174
04:04:38,100 --> 04:04:40,100
I also provide you an annual

6175
04:04:40,100 --> 04:04:42,100
august report that is required

6176
04:04:42,100 --> 04:04:43,100
by our code.

6177
04:04:43,100 --> 04:04:44,100
then at the end of each fiscal

6178
04:04:44,100 --> 04:04:46,100
year I provide you a fiscal year

6179
04:04:46,100 --> 04:04:47,100
over view.

6180
04:04:47,100 --> 04:04:49,100
additionally each and every

6181
04:04:49,100 --> 04:04:52,100
agenda you see work product from

6182
04:04:52,100 --> 04:04:54,100
my office and have the

6183
04:04:54,100 --> 04:04:55,100
opportunity to see what we have

6184
04:04:55,100 --> 04:04:56,100
been working on.

6185
04:04:56,100 --> 04:04:58,100
some of the things this past

6186
04:04:58,100 --> 04:05:01,601
year we worked on included the

6187
04:05:02,100 --> 04:05:04,100
40,350,000-dollar special

6188
04:05:05,100 --> 04:05:06,100
obligation bonds for the

6189
04:05:06,100 --> 04:05:08,100
municipal complex issue.

6190
04:05:08,100 --> 04:05:09,100
big issue and important to the

6191
04:05:09,100 --> 04:05:10,100
city.

6192
04:05:10,100 --> 04:05:12,100
we worked on a number of items

6193
04:05:12,100 --> 04:05:13,100
regarding covid-19.

6194
04:05:13,100 --> 04:05:15,100
some of which you already went

6195
04:05:15,100 --> 04:05:17,401
over with mr. Lubelski.

6196
04:05:19,100 --> 04:05:22,100
we selected a new fire chief.

6197
04:05:22,100 --> 04:05:24,100
as a charter officer we worked

6198
04:05:24,100 --> 04:05:27,100
on windsor, sunrise golf and

6199
04:05:31,100 --> 04:05:33,100
country club regarding the

6200
04:05:33,100 --> 04:05:35,100
city's first community district.

6201
04:05:35,100 --> 04:05:38,601
we are working on metropic and

6202
04:05:39,100 --> 04:05:41,100
creating a district.

6203
04:05:41,100 --> 04:05:43,100
you touched on the daily utility

6204
04:05:43,100 --> 04:05:45,100
evaluation.

6205
04:05:45,100 --> 04:05:46,100
in the interest of time I won't

6206
04:05:46,100 --> 04:05:48,100
go over this in any further

6207
04:05:48,100 --> 04:05:49,100
detail.

6208
04:05:49,100 --> 04:05:51,100
if there is anything that the

6209
04:05:51,100 --> 04:05:53,100
commission would like to have

6210
04:05:53,100 --> 04:05:55,100
more information on I'm here.

6211
04:05:55,100 --> 04:05:57,401
>> thank you, miss kisslan.

6212
04:05:58,100 --> 04:06:01,100
thank you mr. Scuotto for

6213
04:06:06,100 --> 04:06:07,100
volunteering.

6214
04:06:07,100 --> 04:06:08,100
>> no problem.

6215
04:06:08,100 --> 04:06:10,100
kim, you're the behind the

6216
04:06:10,100 --> 04:06:11,100
scenes person.

6217
04:06:11,100 --> 04:06:12,100
we talking about everything that

6218
04:06:12,100 --> 04:06:14,100
is going on physical or things

6219
04:06:14,100 --> 04:06:17,601
that you can see, with mark.

6220
04:06:18,100 --> 04:06:20,100
what you do is the like the

6221
04:06:20,100 --> 04:06:22,100
wizard of oz.

6222
04:06:22,100 --> 04:06:23,100
you're behind the scenes and you

6223
04:06:23,100 --> 04:06:26,100
make our job so much easier.

6224
04:06:26,100 --> 04:06:27,100
nobody would even know all of

6225
04:06:27,100 --> 04:06:29,100
the information, the back up,

6226
04:06:29,100 --> 04:06:31,100
the ordinance, the resolutions,

6227
04:06:31,100 --> 04:06:33,100
the time it takes you and such a

6228
04:06:33,100 --> 04:06:35,100
small staff.

6229
04:06:35,100 --> 04:06:39,201
for the amount of work that is

6230
04:06:40,100 --> 04:06:42,100
done for city manager's office,

6231
04:06:42,100 --> 04:06:44,100
for all of the department heads,

6232
04:06:44,100 --> 04:06:47,100
for anything that we pretty much

6233
04:06:47,100 --> 04:06:49,100
do in the city, all of the

6234
04:06:49,100 --> 04:06:51,100
developments, metropica.

6235
04:06:53,100 --> 04:06:54,100
the contracts and awful that.

6236
04:06:54,100 --> 04:06:56,100
the sawgrass mill stuff.

6237
04:06:56,100 --> 04:06:58,100
anything development, the

6238
04:06:59,100 --> 04:07:01,100
contracts, anything that we

6239
04:07:01,100 --> 04:07:03,100
purchase.

6240
04:07:03,100 --> 04:07:05,100
you pretty much have your hands

6241
04:07:05,100 --> 04:07:08,100
in every single thing that goes

6242
04:07:08,100 --> 04:07:09,100
on in the city.

6243
04:07:09,100 --> 04:07:11,100
no one would even really realize

6244
04:07:11,100 --> 04:07:14,601
what and how much you touch

6245
04:07:16,100 --> 04:07:18,100
before it even comes to, to

6246
04:07:18,100 --> 04:07:20,100
anybody.

6247
04:07:20,100 --> 04:07:22,100
the amount of people that you

6248
04:07:22,100 --> 04:07:23,100
work with.

6249
04:07:23,100 --> 04:07:25,100
you have been short staffed for,

6250
04:07:25,100 --> 04:07:29,100
you know how many times -- I

6251
04:07:29,100 --> 04:07:32,100
find someone or the time that it

6252
04:07:32,100 --> 04:07:36,100
takes you to weed out people to

6253
04:07:36,100 --> 04:07:38,100
finally get the person you feel

6254
04:07:38,100 --> 04:07:41,601
you can work as a team.

6255
04:07:42,100 --> 04:07:44,100
then now again, I hope you know

6256
04:07:44,100 --> 04:07:46,100
the person that you selected is

6257
04:07:46,100 --> 04:07:47,100
should not that is going to be

6258
04:07:47,100 --> 04:07:49,100
there like tom.

6259
04:07:50,100 --> 04:07:53,601
I mean together both of you.

6260
04:07:54,100 --> 04:07:56,100
you know you work together as a

6261
04:07:56,100 --> 04:07:57,100
great team.

6262
04:07:57,100 --> 04:07:59,100
he has his skills.

6263
04:07:59,100 --> 04:08:00,100
he deals with police.

6264
04:08:00,100 --> 04:08:03,601
a lot of the other things.

6265
04:08:05,100 --> 04:08:08,100
he deals with the towing.

6266
04:08:13,100 --> 04:08:15,100
I'm sure your hands are in all

6267
04:08:15,100 --> 04:08:16,100
of it.

6268
04:08:16,100 --> 04:08:18,100
this isn't much to say as far as

6269
04:08:18,100 --> 04:08:22,201
what you don't do to help us

6270
04:08:23,100 --> 04:08:24,100
make the right decisions.

6271
04:08:24,100 --> 04:08:26,100
when there is a time I know I'm

6272
04:08:26,100 --> 04:08:28,100
in the middle of a different

6273
04:08:28,100 --> 04:08:31,100
thing and we need to call you as

6274
04:08:31,100 --> 04:08:34,100
far as ethics or anything you're

6275
04:08:34,100 --> 04:08:36,100
always there to protect us.

6276
04:08:36,100 --> 04:08:38,100
I have been up here for 25

6277
04:08:38,100 --> 04:08:39,100
years.

6278
04:08:39,100 --> 04:08:42,100
in the time you have been here I

6279
04:08:42,100 --> 04:08:44,100
don't think there was a time I

6280
04:08:44,100 --> 04:08:46,100
voted on a item that I question

6281
04:08:46,100 --> 04:08:48,100
I'm voting on something because

6282
04:08:48,100 --> 04:08:50,100
I didn't feel comfortable with

6283
04:08:50,100 --> 04:08:52,100
the wording you put in or staff

6284
04:08:52,100 --> 04:08:54,100
put in.

6285
04:08:55,100 --> 04:08:56,100
that I didn't catch.

6286
04:08:56,100 --> 04:08:58,100
that got by you and we voted on

6287
04:08:58,100 --> 04:09:00,100
something putting us in a bad

6288
04:09:00,100 --> 04:09:01,100
situation.

6289
04:09:01,100 --> 04:09:02,100
that has never happened.

6290
04:09:02,100 --> 04:09:06,201
I recall when you worked with a

6291
04:09:11,100 --> 04:09:13,100
previous lawyer, getting a

6292
04:09:13,100 --> 04:09:15,100
contract for sunrise all they

6293
04:09:15,100 --> 04:09:16,100
did was praise you and want to

6294
04:09:16,100 --> 04:09:17,100
hire you.

6295
04:09:17,100 --> 04:09:19,100
from that point when we picked

6296
04:09:19,100 --> 04:09:21,100
you, we knew you were the person

6297
04:09:21,100 --> 04:09:22,100
for the city.

6298
04:09:22,100 --> 04:09:25,601
you knew -- I felt comfortable

6299
04:09:26,100 --> 04:09:28,100
you were going to make the right

6300
04:09:28,100 --> 04:09:29,100
decisions for us.

6301
04:09:29,100 --> 04:09:31,401
you're a hard worker.

6302
04:09:33,100 --> 04:09:34,100
I don't e-mail.

6303
04:09:34,100 --> 04:09:35,100
I don't text.

6304
04:09:35,100 --> 04:09:39,100
I wouldn't have to write a short

6305
04:09:39,100 --> 04:09:42,100
story and you give me a one word

6306
04:09:42,100 --> 04:09:43,100
answer.

6307
04:09:43,100 --> 04:09:44,100
kim is very short and to the

6308
04:09:44,100 --> 04:09:45,100
point.

6309
04:09:45,100 --> 04:09:48,100
me I will ramble on for an hour.

6310
04:09:48,100 --> 04:09:50,100
if I call kim for something.

6311
04:09:50,100 --> 04:09:51,100
>> not tonight.

6312
04:09:51,100 --> 04:09:52,100
>> I'm saying.

6313
04:09:52,100 --> 04:09:54,100
she is specific.

6314
04:09:54,100 --> 04:09:56,100
she knows, she is very detailed.

6315
04:09:56,100 --> 04:09:58,401
this is the answer.

6316
04:10:02,100 --> 04:10:04,100
I am like, well.

6317
04:10:04,100 --> 04:10:07,100
she says, no that's the answer.

6318
04:10:07,100 --> 04:10:08,100
I like that you're to the point.

6319
04:10:08,100 --> 04:10:11,100
it makes it easier for us.

6320
04:10:11,100 --> 04:10:14,601
specially for me to make a

6321
04:10:15,100 --> 04:10:16,100
decision.

6322
04:10:16,100 --> 04:10:17,100
I have no problem working with

6323
04:10:17,100 --> 04:10:18,100
you.

6324
04:10:18,100 --> 04:10:19,100
the staff is great.

6325
04:10:19,100 --> 04:10:20,100
for the amount of people you

6326
04:10:20,100 --> 04:10:21,100
have in the office, the boat

6327
04:10:21,100 --> 04:10:25,100
load of work that you get is --

6328
04:10:25,100 --> 04:10:29,100
I couldn't even say all that you

6329
04:10:29,100 --> 04:10:31,100
and your staff does.

6330
04:10:31,100 --> 04:10:34,100
couldn't see any department head

6331
04:10:34,100 --> 04:10:36,100
has information to give to

6332
04:10:36,100 --> 04:10:37,100
everybody.

6333
04:10:37,100 --> 04:10:38,100
even the people with contracts

6334
04:10:38,100 --> 04:10:42,801
and fill out -- I never get any

6335
04:10:43,100 --> 04:10:46,100
input from nip that says you're

6336
04:10:46,100 --> 04:10:48,100
the city attorney putting in the

6337
04:10:48,100 --> 04:10:49,100
wrong information.

6338
04:10:49,100 --> 04:10:50,100
that is why it has never come

6339
04:10:50,100 --> 04:10:52,100
before me.

6340
04:10:52,100 --> 04:10:53,100
I haven't seen it come before

6341
04:10:53,100 --> 04:10:54,100
anyone.

6342
04:10:54,100 --> 04:10:57,100
I thank you for your service.

6343
04:10:57,100 --> 04:10:59,100
I don't think you should live in

6344
04:10:59,100 --> 04:11:00,100
the city of sunrise.

6345
04:11:00,100 --> 04:11:03,100
I don't want you to move.

6346
04:11:03,100 --> 04:11:04,100
thank you.

6347
04:11:04,100 --> 04:11:05,100
we appreciate all that you and

6348
04:11:05,100 --> 04:11:07,100
your staff does.

6349
04:11:07,100 --> 04:11:10,100
I am more than welcomed to give

6350
04:11:10,100 --> 04:11:12,401
you a favorable review.

6351
04:11:14,100 --> 04:11:15,100
>> commissioner douglas.

6352
04:11:15,100 --> 04:11:16,100
>> thank you.

6353
04:11:16,100 --> 04:11:17,100
>> you're welcome.

6354
04:11:17,100 --> 04:11:19,100
>> according to commissioner

6355
04:11:19,100 --> 04:11:22,100
scuotto lawyers are the best

6356
04:11:23,100 --> 04:11:25,100
thing since sliced bread.

6357
04:11:25,100 --> 04:11:26,100
>> hey.

6358
04:11:26,100 --> 04:11:28,100
>> alright.

6359
04:11:29,100 --> 04:11:32,601
ms. Kisslan I don't often echo

6360
04:11:33,100 --> 04:11:36,100
commissioner scuotto I will to

6361
04:11:37,100 --> 04:11:38,100
some extent tonight.

6362
04:11:38,100 --> 04:11:40,100
I believe you're one of the best

6363
04:11:40,100 --> 04:11:42,100
municipal attorneys that I know

6364
04:11:42,100 --> 04:11:43,100
of.

6365
04:11:43,100 --> 04:11:46,601
he's correct about the fact that

6366
04:11:51,100 --> 04:11:54,100
you touch on pretty much

6367
04:11:55,100 --> 04:11:56,100
everything.

6368
04:11:56,100 --> 04:11:58,100
we have four charters.

6369
04:11:58,100 --> 04:12:01,100
police are kind of functionally,

6370
04:12:01,100 --> 04:12:02,100
they do their thing.

6371
04:12:02,100 --> 04:12:04,100
they have a lot of issues that

6372
04:12:04,100 --> 04:12:05,100
are legal.

6373
04:12:05,100 --> 04:12:07,100
even though we have a bunch of

6374
04:12:07,100 --> 04:12:09,100
outside council that are, deal

6375
04:12:09,100 --> 04:12:12,100
with our specialty areas you

6376
04:12:12,100 --> 04:12:14,100
still manage and supervise their

6377
04:12:14,100 --> 04:12:16,100
input.

6378
04:12:16,100 --> 04:12:19,601
I rely on your monthly activity

6379
04:12:20,100 --> 04:12:21,100
report.

6380
04:12:21,100 --> 04:12:25,801
a lot of times for what is going

6381
04:12:27,100 --> 04:12:28,100
on in the city.

6382
04:12:28,100 --> 04:12:30,100
I read it and I'm like what is

6383
04:12:30,100 --> 04:12:31,100
this.

6384
04:12:31,100 --> 04:12:33,100
I read kim's report.

6385
04:12:33,100 --> 04:12:35,100
she said she is working on this

6386
04:12:35,100 --> 04:12:36,100
thing.

6387
04:12:36,100 --> 04:12:38,401
what is this thing.

6388
04:12:39,100 --> 04:12:42,601
so, I knew keeping them honest.

6389
04:12:43,100 --> 04:12:44,100
I know you're just going to put

6390
04:12:44,100 --> 04:12:46,100
it in the report.

6391
04:12:46,100 --> 04:12:47,100
I was working on this.

6392
04:12:47,100 --> 04:12:50,601
often there is a good and

6393
04:12:54,100 --> 04:12:55,100
reasonable explanation to what

6394
04:12:55,100 --> 04:12:57,100
it was, but it helps to

6395
04:12:57,100 --> 04:12:59,100
preinform me.

6396
04:13:00,100 --> 04:13:02,100
it's living I can't believe kim

6397
04:13:02,100 --> 04:13:04,100
put that in the report.

6398
04:13:04,100 --> 04:13:06,100
I wasn't ready to discuss it

6399
04:13:06,100 --> 04:13:07,100
with the commission yet.

6400
04:13:07,100 --> 04:13:11,201
I do have a significant level of

6401
04:13:16,100 --> 04:13:18,100
comfort knowing that you are

6402
04:13:18,100 --> 04:13:20,100
reviewing the items coming

6403
04:13:20,100 --> 04:13:21,100
before the commission.

6404
04:13:21,100 --> 04:13:22,100
the transactions that we're

6405
04:13:22,100 --> 04:13:24,100
engaged in.

6406
04:13:25,100 --> 04:13:28,100
certainly as a lawyer myself I

6407
04:13:28,100 --> 04:13:30,100
think it gives me an advantage

6408
04:13:30,100 --> 04:13:33,100
in terms of us communicating.

6409
04:13:35,100 --> 04:13:38,100
being able to understand your

6410
04:13:40,100 --> 04:13:41,100
explanation.

6411
04:13:41,100 --> 04:13:43,100
that's an advantage I take to

6412
04:13:43,100 --> 04:13:44,100
the table.

6413
04:13:44,100 --> 04:13:47,100
I think the people of this city,

6414
04:13:47,100 --> 04:13:50,100
you know, what you do is way

6415
04:13:50,100 --> 04:13:53,100
above, you know, this is

6416
04:13:53,100 --> 04:13:54,100
specialty law.

6417
04:13:54,100 --> 04:13:56,100
land use and all of these

6418
04:13:56,100 --> 04:13:57,100
things.

6419
04:13:57,100 --> 04:13:59,100
being able to answer in most

6420
04:13:59,100 --> 04:14:00,100
cases.

6421
04:14:00,100 --> 04:14:02,100
most cases I can recall where

6422
04:14:02,100 --> 04:14:06,201
there was a need for a response,

6423
04:14:08,100 --> 04:14:10,100
a question, you have generally

6424
04:14:10,100 --> 04:14:13,100
been able to respond or say I

6425
04:14:13,100 --> 04:14:14,100
have to look into that.

6426
04:14:14,100 --> 04:14:16,100
which is fine with me.

6427
04:14:16,100 --> 04:14:19,100
I don't want a speculative

6428
04:14:21,100 --> 04:14:22,100
response or one that is

6429
04:14:22,100 --> 04:14:25,100
grounded, in I think that's what

6430
04:14:25,100 --> 04:14:26,100
they want to hear.

6431
04:14:26,100 --> 04:14:28,100
I want to hear what the real

6432
04:14:28,100 --> 04:14:30,100
deal is.

6433
04:14:31,100 --> 04:14:34,100
so from the perspective of

6434
04:14:35,100 --> 04:14:37,100
legally sufficient I am

6435
04:14:37,100 --> 04:14:39,100
generally always comfortable.

6436
04:14:42,100 --> 04:14:44,100
if I have any doubts about

6437
04:14:44,100 --> 04:14:45,100
something I will pick up the

6438
04:14:45,100 --> 04:14:46,100
phone and call.

6439
04:14:46,100 --> 04:14:49,100
I tend to prefer calling unless

6440
04:14:49,100 --> 04:14:51,100
there is a reason I feel I

6441
04:14:51,100 --> 04:14:52,100
should e-mail.

6442
04:14:52,100 --> 04:14:55,100
in most cases I pick up the

6443
04:14:55,100 --> 04:14:56,100
phone to call.

6444
04:14:56,100 --> 04:14:59,601
you know there isn't a whole

6445
04:15:07,100 --> 04:15:10,100
much lot else to say.

6446
04:15:10,100 --> 04:15:13,100
again I echo him, my colleague,

6447
04:15:13,100 --> 04:15:14,100
not him but commissioner

6448
04:15:14,100 --> 04:15:16,100
scuotto.

6449
04:15:16,100 --> 04:15:20,201
you have been around for a long

6450
04:15:24,100 --> 04:15:26,100
time.

6451
04:15:26,100 --> 04:15:29,100
-- much more experience with the

6452
04:15:29,100 --> 04:15:31,100
output of your office.

6453
04:15:31,100 --> 04:15:32,100
as it's been pointed out you

6454
04:15:32,100 --> 04:15:34,401
have consistently work in

6455
04:15:35,100 --> 04:15:37,100
protecting city's interest,

6456
04:15:38,100 --> 04:15:39,100
guiding the commission.

6457
04:15:39,100 --> 04:15:41,100
I have often said I'm generally

6458
04:15:41,100 --> 04:15:42,100
a liberal.

6459
04:15:42,100 --> 04:15:44,100
in my attorney I want

6460
04:15:44,100 --> 04:15:46,100
conservatism.

6461
04:15:46,100 --> 04:15:48,100
I would rather you air on the

6462
04:15:48,100 --> 04:15:50,100
side of conservatism in the

6463
04:15:50,100 --> 04:15:52,100
opinions you give.

6464
04:15:53,100 --> 04:15:56,100
I think you have demonstrated

6465
04:15:56,100 --> 04:15:57,100
you're in the business to

6466
04:15:57,100 --> 04:15:59,100
protect the cities interest and

6467
04:15:59,100 --> 04:16:02,100
what we he gauge in is

6468
04:16:02,100 --> 04:16:04,401
aboveboard and defensible both

6469
04:16:05,100 --> 04:16:07,100
from a legal perspective and

6470
04:16:07,100 --> 04:16:09,100
certainly a professional

6471
04:16:11,100 --> 04:16:13,100
perspective.

6472
04:16:13,100 --> 04:16:15,100
I appreciate the guidance and

6473
04:16:15,100 --> 04:16:17,100
work that you do over all.

6474
04:16:17,100 --> 04:16:19,100
>> thank you.

6475
04:16:19,100 --> 04:16:21,100
>> assistant deputy mayor

6476
04:16:22,100 --> 04:16:23,100
guzman.

6477
04:16:23,100 --> 04:16:25,100
>> hi, hello.

6478
04:16:26,100 --> 04:16:28,100
again in my short time being

6479
04:16:28,100 --> 04:16:30,100
here I appreciate your

6480
04:16:30,100 --> 04:16:31,100
knowledge.

6481
04:16:31,100 --> 04:16:33,100
you're extremely professional.

6482
04:16:33,100 --> 04:16:36,100
I'm thankful poor you as a woman

6483
04:16:36,100 --> 04:16:38,100
being in the position you are.

6484
04:16:38,100 --> 04:16:41,100
I thank you for always being

6485
04:16:41,100 --> 04:16:43,100
available for ethics questions.

6486
04:16:43,100 --> 04:16:45,100
you're right on top of it.

6487
04:16:45,100 --> 04:16:46,100
black and white, you're so

6488
04:16:46,100 --> 04:16:47,100
precise with it.

6489
04:16:47,100 --> 04:16:48,100
like you said it's not what we

6490
04:16:48,100 --> 04:16:49,100
want to hear.

6491
04:16:49,100 --> 04:16:50,100
you say it like it is.

6492
04:16:50,100 --> 04:16:52,100
I appreciate you being honest

6493
04:16:52,100 --> 04:16:55,601
about what we have spoken about.

6494
04:16:56,100 --> 04:16:57,100
I look forward to continuing my

6495
04:16:57,100 --> 04:16:59,100
relationship with you and coming

6496
04:16:59,100 --> 04:17:03,100
to you more I haven't needed too

6497
04:17:03,100 --> 04:17:04,100
as much.

6498
04:17:04,100 --> 04:17:05,100
I will soon.

6499
04:17:05,100 --> 04:17:06,100
thank you again for what you do

6500
04:17:06,100 --> 04:17:07,100
here.

6501
04:17:07,100 --> 04:17:08,100
thank you.

6502
04:17:08,100 --> 04:17:09,100
>> thank you.

6503
04:17:09,100 --> 04:17:10,100
>> mayor ryan.

6504
04:17:10,100 --> 04:17:11,100
>> thank you.

6505
04:17:11,100 --> 04:17:14,601
ms. Kisslan, you know I'm an

6506
04:17:17,100 --> 04:17:20,100
enormous fan of your talents.

6507
04:17:20,100 --> 04:17:22,100
commissioner scuotto remembers

6508
04:17:24,100 --> 04:17:27,100
the difficult time after I came

6509
04:17:27,100 --> 04:17:31,201
on and decisions had to be made

6510
04:17:35,100 --> 04:17:37,100
about who to hire.

6511
04:17:37,100 --> 04:17:39,100
the first --

6512
04:17:41,100 --> 04:17:42,100
[inaudible]

6513
04:17:42,100 --> 04:17:44,100
-- who to hire from there.

6514
04:17:44,100 --> 04:17:46,100
while that's not relevant to

6515
04:17:46,100 --> 04:17:48,100
your past year's review I say it

6516
04:17:48,100 --> 04:17:52,201
only that I think one of the

6517
04:17:53,100 --> 04:17:55,100
best decisions the commission

6518
04:17:55,100 --> 04:17:59,100
made was picking you as our city

6519
04:17:59,100 --> 04:18:00,100
attorney.

6520
04:18:00,100 --> 04:18:02,100
over the last decade you have

6521
04:18:02,100 --> 04:18:05,100
never disappointed us in any

6522
04:18:06,100 --> 04:18:07,100
regard.

6523
04:18:07,100 --> 04:18:08,100
we may not always like what we

6524
04:18:08,100 --> 04:18:11,601
hear that is the nature of

6525
04:18:12,100 --> 04:18:14,100
getting legal advice from any

6526
04:18:14,100 --> 04:18:15,100
lawyer.

6527
04:18:15,100 --> 04:18:16,100
over the past year you have had

6528
04:18:16,100 --> 04:18:18,401
to deal with tremendous

6529
04:18:21,100 --> 04:18:22,100
uncertain times.

6530
04:18:22,100 --> 04:18:25,100
even some bold decisions that

6531
04:18:25,100 --> 04:18:27,100
this mission decided to make in

6532
04:18:27,100 --> 04:18:28,100
advance of the state and other

6533
04:18:28,100 --> 04:18:30,100
sit he's.

6534
04:18:30,100 --> 04:18:33,100
that bore some risk in terms of

6535
04:18:33,100 --> 04:18:35,100
potential litigation.

6536
04:18:35,100 --> 04:18:36,100
you understood that the

6537
04:18:36,100 --> 04:18:38,401
commission's had a policy,

6538
04:18:40,100 --> 04:18:41,100
commitment, focus.

6539
04:18:41,100 --> 04:18:44,100
you were able to craft a

6540
04:18:44,100 --> 04:18:46,401
strategy that was defensible.

6541
04:18:47,100 --> 04:18:49,100
in the end we know these were

6542
04:18:49,100 --> 04:18:51,100
the right decisions.

6543
04:18:52,100 --> 04:18:54,100
-- my colleagues.

6544
04:18:54,100 --> 04:18:56,401
your outline of accomplishments

6545
04:18:57,100 --> 04:19:00,100
does not even come close to

6546
04:19:00,100 --> 04:19:03,100
fully highlighting what you do

6547
04:19:03,100 --> 04:19:05,100
and what you and your staff do.

6548
04:19:05,100 --> 04:19:08,100
you have a unique position in so

6549
04:19:08,100 --> 04:19:10,100
far as you ultimately are

6550
04:19:10,100 --> 04:19:13,100
reviewing much of what the other

6551
04:19:13,100 --> 04:19:15,100
departments do at one level or

6552
04:19:15,100 --> 04:19:16,100
another.

6553
04:19:16,100 --> 04:19:19,100
that means at times are you

6554
04:19:19,100 --> 04:19:21,100
going to give advice to mark or

6555
04:19:21,100 --> 04:19:23,100
other departments that may not

6556
04:19:23,100 --> 04:19:24,100
want to hear.

6557
04:19:24,100 --> 04:19:27,601
you may raise issues about the

6558
04:19:29,100 --> 04:19:31,100
timing when things are brought

6559
04:19:31,100 --> 04:19:32,100
to the commission or extra work

6560
04:19:32,100 --> 04:19:33,100
on your staff.

6561
04:19:33,100 --> 04:19:36,100
you and your staff are

6562
04:19:36,100 --> 04:19:38,100
confidentially professional.

6563
04:19:40,100 --> 04:19:42,100
you have the best interest of

6564
04:19:42,100 --> 04:19:44,100
the city at heart and the

6565
04:19:44,100 --> 04:19:46,401
personnel development has been

6566
04:19:48,100 --> 04:19:49,100
spectacular.

6567
04:19:49,100 --> 04:19:52,601
your choice and the deep issues

6568
04:19:53,100 --> 04:19:55,100
the commission has taken on, the

6569
04:19:55,100 --> 04:19:57,100
city has taken on.

6570
04:19:57,100 --> 04:19:59,100
also your choice about council.

6571
04:19:59,100 --> 04:20:01,100
commissioner douglas said and

6572
04:20:01,100 --> 04:20:04,100
think others will appreciate we

6573
04:20:06,100 --> 04:20:09,601
can be pretty harsh on each

6574
04:20:11,100 --> 04:20:14,100
other maybe it's an advantage or

6575
04:20:14,100 --> 04:20:15,100
a curse.

6576
04:20:15,100 --> 04:20:18,100
as it's been pointed out, the

6577
04:20:18,100 --> 04:20:20,100
people you have chose tone help

6578
04:20:20,100 --> 04:20:24,201
advice city is a credit to you.

6579
04:20:25,100 --> 04:20:28,100
because we have been incredibly

6580
04:20:30,100 --> 04:20:32,401
successful in both negotiation.

6581
04:20:38,100 --> 04:20:41,100
what I appreciate most, if

6582
04:20:41,100 --> 04:20:43,100
anyone has a question that can't

6583
04:20:43,100 --> 04:20:45,100
be answered by you or mr. Moss

6584
04:20:45,100 --> 04:20:47,100
you will bring in someone to

6585
04:20:47,100 --> 04:20:50,100
help provide us that guidance.

6586
04:20:50,100 --> 04:20:52,401
ultimately your transparency and

6587
04:20:55,100 --> 04:20:57,100
monthly reports is a welcomed

6588
04:20:57,100 --> 04:21:00,100
feature that sets a tone for all

6589
04:21:00,100 --> 04:21:02,100
of the departments.

6590
04:21:03,100 --> 04:21:05,100
your communication skills are

6591
04:21:05,100 --> 04:21:07,100
appreciated and the only thing I

6592
04:21:07,100 --> 04:21:09,100
would say differently than maybe

6593
04:21:09,100 --> 04:21:11,100
my colleagues is that having the

6594
04:21:11,100 --> 04:21:13,100
opportunity to work with many

6595
04:21:13,100 --> 04:21:15,100
different city attorneys on

6596
04:21:15,100 --> 04:21:17,100
various regional issues that I

6597
04:21:17,100 --> 04:21:18,100
have had the opportunity.

6598
04:21:18,100 --> 04:21:20,100
I think we have the best city

6599
04:21:20,100 --> 04:21:21,100
attorney.

6600
04:21:21,100 --> 04:21:23,100
the best city attorney staff.

6601
04:21:23,100 --> 04:21:25,100
we have been able to handle

6602
04:21:25,100 --> 04:21:28,100
incredibly complex issues in a

6603
04:21:28,100 --> 04:21:30,100
diverse way.

6604
04:21:30,100 --> 04:21:33,100
have kept us out of trouble.

6605
04:21:33,100 --> 04:21:36,100
I don't mean that we seek it.

6606
04:21:36,100 --> 04:21:38,100
but we have to be careful as a

6607
04:21:38,100 --> 04:21:39,100
city, each department.

6608
04:21:39,100 --> 04:21:41,100
it's a credit to your commitment

6609
04:21:41,100 --> 04:21:44,100
to this city to us 24/7.

6610
04:21:48,100 --> 04:21:51,100
as we said earlier --

6611
04:21:53,100 --> 04:21:54,100
2:00 o'clock in the morning.

6612
04:21:54,100 --> 04:21:57,100
I have no doubt if there was an

6613
04:21:57,100 --> 04:21:59,100
urgent issue to address over

6614
04:21:59,100 --> 04:22:01,100
night you and your staff would

6615
04:22:01,100 --> 04:22:03,100
be there.

6616
04:22:03,100 --> 04:22:05,100
it's a long way to say,

6617
04:22:05,100 --> 04:22:07,100
favorable.

6618
04:22:07,100 --> 04:22:10,100
I am very appreciate tiff, kim,

6619
04:22:10,100 --> 04:22:13,100
of your honesty, your engagement

6620
04:22:17,100 --> 04:22:20,100
and putting fact in when

6621
04:22:20,100 --> 04:22:21,100
necessary.

6622
04:22:21,100 --> 04:22:22,100
thank you.

6623
04:22:22,100 --> 04:22:24,100
again nice working with you.

6624
04:22:24,100 --> 04:22:27,601
working with mark I feel blessed

6625
04:22:29,100 --> 04:22:31,100
as you being our city attorney.

6626
04:22:31,100 --> 04:22:32,100
>> thank you.

6627
04:22:32,100 --> 04:22:35,100
>> ms. Kisslan, you're the only

6628
04:22:35,100 --> 04:22:37,100
city attorney I know.

6629
04:22:37,100 --> 04:22:39,401
it's been a blessing.

6630
04:22:41,100 --> 04:22:42,100
sitting up here with your

6631
04:22:42,100 --> 04:22:44,100
guidance.

6632
04:22:45,100 --> 04:22:47,100
in preparation of your review I

6633
04:22:47,100 --> 04:22:50,100
had a chance to speak with you.

6634
04:22:50,100 --> 04:22:52,100
the memo in the back up of this

6635
04:22:52,100 --> 04:22:54,100
agenda.

6636
04:22:57,100 --> 04:22:59,100
I reviews your monthly reports

6637
04:22:59,100 --> 04:23:00,100
and legal spreadsheet.

6638
04:23:00,100 --> 04:23:02,100
I feel all of the documents and

6639
04:23:02,100 --> 04:23:04,100
presentation identify your

6640
04:23:05,100 --> 04:23:07,100
significant achievements and

6641
04:23:07,100 --> 04:23:08,100
objectives.

6642
04:23:08,100 --> 04:23:10,100
your decision making is second

6643
04:23:10,100 --> 04:23:11,100
to none.

6644
04:23:11,100 --> 04:23:13,100
I foal you demonstrate quality

6645
04:23:13,100 --> 04:23:16,100
of analysis related to progress

6646
04:23:16,100 --> 04:23:18,100
for the city of sunrise

6647
04:23:18,100 --> 04:23:19,100
organization.

6648
04:23:19,100 --> 04:23:21,100
your legal advice and legal

6649
04:23:21,100 --> 04:23:22,100
guidance to me and this

6650
04:23:22,100 --> 04:23:23,100
commission and the city and our

6651
04:23:23,100 --> 04:23:26,100
city staff has been instrument

6652
04:23:27,100 --> 04:23:29,100
al to decision making going on

6653
04:23:29,100 --> 04:23:31,100
throughout city and the ultimate

6654
04:23:31,100 --> 04:23:33,401
success of our city.

6655
04:23:34,100 --> 04:23:36,100
as I told you when we walked in

6656
04:23:36,100 --> 04:23:38,100
tonight, it's not lip service.

6657
04:23:38,100 --> 04:23:40,100
you're one of the smartest and

6658
04:23:40,100 --> 04:23:43,100
brightest lawyers I have ever

6659
04:23:43,100 --> 04:23:46,100
met, I believe in you as our

6660
04:23:46,100 --> 04:23:47,100
city attorney.

6661
04:23:47,100 --> 04:23:49,100
I believe you recruit and retain

6662
04:23:49,100 --> 04:23:50,100
a diverse staff.

6663
04:23:50,100 --> 04:23:52,100
very pleased with your new hire

6664
04:23:52,100 --> 04:23:53,100
this evening.

6665
04:23:53,100 --> 04:23:54,100
look forward to working with

6666
04:23:54,100 --> 04:23:55,100
him.

6667
04:23:55,100 --> 04:23:58,100
tom moss and the whole legal

6668
04:23:58,100 --> 04:24:00,100
support team is always there for

6669
04:24:00,100 --> 04:24:01,100
us.

6670
04:24:01,100 --> 04:24:02,100
it's a credit to your success

6671
04:24:02,100 --> 04:24:03,100
and your management and

6672
04:24:03,100 --> 04:24:05,401
leadership style and personal

6673
04:24:06,100 --> 04:24:07,100
development.

6674
04:24:07,100 --> 04:24:10,100
planning and organizing as a

6675
04:24:10,100 --> 04:24:11,100
lawyer that's what we do.

6676
04:24:11,100 --> 04:24:12,100
we plan and organize.

6677
04:24:12,100 --> 04:24:14,100
over and over.

6678
04:24:14,100 --> 04:24:16,100
I feel that you work well with

6679
04:24:16,100 --> 04:24:18,401
commission, the staffs, and

6680
04:24:21,100 --> 04:24:23,100
throughout the organization

6681
04:24:24,100 --> 04:24:25,100
develop strategies to achieve

6682
04:24:25,100 --> 04:24:27,100
the city's mission goals and

6683
04:24:27,100 --> 04:24:29,100
financial liability.

6684
04:24:29,100 --> 04:24:30,100
your work on your general

6685
04:24:30,100 --> 04:24:32,100
obligation bond, special

6686
04:24:32,100 --> 04:24:34,100
allegation bonds all strange to

6687
04:24:34,100 --> 04:24:36,100
me, it's a foreign language.

6688
04:24:36,100 --> 04:24:37,100
some how you get it to me and

6689
04:24:37,100 --> 04:24:39,100
I'm able to understand it.

6690
04:24:39,100 --> 04:24:41,100
I do appreciate that work on

6691
04:24:41,100 --> 04:24:42,100
that.

6692
04:24:42,100 --> 04:24:44,401
and then the unprecedented

6693
04:24:46,100 --> 04:24:48,100
coronavirus issues.

6694
04:24:48,100 --> 04:24:50,401
you work through transition,

6695
04:24:51,100 --> 04:24:54,100
remote and virtual, now back to

6696
04:24:54,100 --> 04:24:56,100
in-person and hybrid.

6697
04:24:57,100 --> 04:25:00,601
you keeping us all out of

6698
04:25:02,100 --> 04:25:05,100
trouble with your ethics opinion

6699
04:25:05,100 --> 04:25:06,100
and advice.

6700
04:25:06,100 --> 04:25:07,100
I can't comment enough on how

6701
04:25:07,100 --> 04:25:10,100
well I find your organization

6702
04:25:10,100 --> 04:25:12,100
skills.

6703
04:25:13,100 --> 04:25:15,100
I feel as mayor ryan pointed out

6704
04:25:15,100 --> 04:25:18,100
a moment ago your reputation

6705
04:25:19,100 --> 04:25:21,100
buildings respect and profile

6706
04:25:21,100 --> 04:25:23,100
for the city of sunrise.

6707
04:25:23,100 --> 04:25:25,100
throughout the city attorneys,

6708
04:25:25,100 --> 04:25:27,100
county and regional.

6709
04:25:27,100 --> 04:25:29,100
I truly believe you're the best,

6710
04:25:29,100 --> 04:25:30,100
knowing only one.

6711
04:25:30,100 --> 04:25:33,100
not a lot to compare but I know

6712
04:25:33,100 --> 04:25:35,100
in my heart you're the best.

6713
04:25:35,100 --> 04:25:37,100
I find that you work well with

6714
04:25:37,100 --> 04:25:38,100
staff.

6715
04:25:38,100 --> 04:25:40,100
finance committee, the

6716
04:25:40,100 --> 04:25:42,100
commission, preparing budgets,

6717
04:25:42,100 --> 04:25:44,100
monitoring progress, initiate

6718
04:25:45,100 --> 04:25:46,100
changes in operations as

6719
04:25:46,100 --> 04:25:47,100
appropriate.

6720
04:25:47,100 --> 04:25:49,100
you have kept me fully informed,

6721
04:25:49,100 --> 04:25:51,100
always check in on me.

6722
04:25:51,100 --> 04:25:53,100
as a lawyer I like to figure

6723
04:25:53,100 --> 04:25:56,100
things out myself and read.

6724
04:25:56,100 --> 04:25:59,100
now that mr. Douglas has let the

6725
04:25:59,100 --> 04:26:00,100
cat out of the bag.

6726
04:26:00,100 --> 04:26:03,100
I do too look at your litigation

6727
04:26:03,100 --> 04:26:05,100
reports to see what is going on

6728
04:26:05,100 --> 04:26:06,100
with the city.

6729
04:26:06,100 --> 04:26:08,100
I thought I was the only one

6730
04:26:08,100 --> 04:26:11,601
sneaky on that. I do appreciate

6731
04:26:15,100 --> 04:26:16,100
your monthly reporting.

6732
04:26:16,100 --> 04:26:18,100
you have always provided sound

6733
04:26:18,100 --> 04:26:19,100
legal advice.

6734
04:26:19,100 --> 04:26:21,100
as a lawyer clients should

6735
04:26:21,100 --> 04:26:23,100
listen to their lawyers.

6736
04:26:23,100 --> 04:26:25,100
I feel I'm your client.

6737
04:26:25,100 --> 04:26:27,100
I always listen to my lawyer

6738
04:26:27,100 --> 04:26:29,100
when they give sound legal

6739
04:26:29,100 --> 04:26:30,100
advice.

6740
04:26:30,100 --> 04:26:31,100
your work on ordinances,

6741
04:26:31,100 --> 04:26:33,100
resolutions, ethics, sunshine

6742
04:26:34,100 --> 04:26:36,100
law is all top notch.

6743
04:26:36,100 --> 04:26:38,100
I believe you represent the city

6744
04:26:38,100 --> 04:26:40,100
of sunrise well.

6745
04:26:40,100 --> 04:26:42,401
constituents -- general public.

6746
04:26:45,100 --> 04:26:48,601
you know confident that all of

6747
04:26:49,100 --> 04:26:52,100
the legal issues are in

6748
04:26:52,100 --> 04:26:53,100
compliance with federal and

6749
04:26:53,100 --> 04:26:55,100
local regulations.

6750
04:26:55,100 --> 04:26:58,601
I am confident you have adequate

6751
04:26:59,100 --> 04:27:02,100
control of accounting and all

6752
04:27:02,100 --> 04:27:03,100
funds with sound financial

6753
04:27:03,100 --> 04:27:04,100
practices.

6754
04:27:04,100 --> 04:27:06,100
I'm very pleased to find your

6755
04:27:06,100 --> 04:27:08,100
performance excellent.

6756
04:27:08,100 --> 04:27:10,100
so, thank you.

6757
04:27:11,100 --> 04:27:12,100
>> thank you.

6758
04:27:12,100 --> 04:27:14,100
>> alright.

6759
04:27:14,100 --> 04:27:16,100
and going --

6760
04:27:20,100 --> 04:27:21,100
[inaudible]

6761
04:27:21,100 --> 04:27:22,100
>> you like that.

6762
04:27:22,100 --> 04:27:24,100
I'm practicing.

6763
04:27:24,100 --> 04:27:27,601
alright we're going to her item

6764
04:27:28,100 --> 04:27:29,100
description.

6765
04:27:29,100 --> 04:27:32,100
I think it says after a finding

6766
04:27:32,100 --> 04:27:35,100
of a favorable annual review

6767
04:27:35,100 --> 04:27:37,100
pursuant to conditions of 7,

6768
04:27:37,100 --> 04:27:39,100
approved by majority vote of the

6769
04:27:39,100 --> 04:27:41,100
city commission employee should

6770
04:27:41,100 --> 04:27:45,100
be eligible for a annual mir it

6771
04:27:45,100 --> 04:27:46,100
increase.

6772
04:27:46,100 --> 04:27:49,100
anyone witch to have any comment

6773
04:27:49,100 --> 04:27:52,100
on the annual merit increase for

6774
04:27:52,100 --> 04:27:54,100
miss kisslan.

6775
04:27:54,100 --> 04:27:56,100
commissioner scuotto,

6776
04:27:57,100 --> 04:27:58,100
volunteering.

6777
04:27:58,100 --> 04:27:59,100
thank you.

6778
04:27:59,100 --> 04:28:00,100
>> I mean if we want to be

6779
04:28:00,100 --> 04:28:02,100
consistent with the charter

6780
04:28:02,100 --> 04:28:06,100
officers and go with the same --

6781
04:28:06,100 --> 04:28:07,100
so.

6782
04:28:07,100 --> 04:28:08,100
>> I will second that.

6783
04:28:08,100 --> 04:28:10,100
>> I agree with that.

6784
04:28:10,100 --> 04:28:12,100
>> ms. Guzman.

6785
04:28:13,100 --> 04:28:14,100
>> yes.

6786
04:28:14,100 --> 04:28:15,100
>> mayor ryan, did you hear

6787
04:28:15,100 --> 04:28:16,100
that?

6788
04:28:16,100 --> 04:28:19,100
it's a conscience of us here we

6789
04:28:19,100 --> 04:28:20,100
would like to be consistent

6790
04:28:20,100 --> 04:28:21,100
across the board with the

6791
04:28:21,100 --> 04:28:22,100
charter.

6792
04:28:22,100 --> 04:28:24,100
mayor ryan.

6793
04:28:29,100 --> 04:28:32,601
is he still on the phone?

6794
04:28:33,100 --> 04:28:35,100
>> they muted me.

6795
04:28:35,100 --> 04:28:36,100
>> oh.

6796
04:28:36,100 --> 04:28:39,100
>> they're not the first ones

6797
04:28:39,100 --> 04:28:40,100
that have wanted to do that.

6798
04:28:40,100 --> 04:28:43,100
>> I can we keep that feature.

6799
04:28:43,100 --> 04:28:44,100
just kidding.

6800
04:28:44,100 --> 04:28:46,100
>> when I'm there.

6801
04:28:47,100 --> 04:28:49,401
I said I support.

6802
04:28:50,100 --> 04:28:52,100
>> excellent, congratulations.

6803
04:28:53,100 --> 04:28:54,100
>> thank you, very much.

6804
04:28:54,100 --> 04:28:55,100
our direction comes from the

6805
04:28:55,100 --> 04:28:56,100
top.

6806
04:28:56,100 --> 04:28:57,100
thank you for all of the kudos

6807
04:28:57,100 --> 04:28:58,100
to my staff.

6808
04:28:58,100 --> 04:29:00,100
I will relay them too.

6809
04:29:00,100 --> 04:29:02,100
>> good job.

6810
04:29:02,100 --> 04:29:04,100
>> next victim.

6811
04:29:06,100 --> 04:29:08,100
>> alright.

6812
04:29:08,100 --> 04:29:09,100
17f.

6813
04:29:09,100 --> 04:29:11,100
police chief annual review.

6814
04:29:11,100 --> 04:29:12,100
commission discussion and or

6815
04:29:12,100 --> 04:29:13,100
action regarding the annual

6816
04:29:13,100 --> 04:29:16,100
review and evaluation of the

6817
04:29:17,100 --> 04:29:19,100
police chief, police chief

6818
04:29:19,100 --> 04:29:21,100
anthony rosa.

6819
04:29:22,100 --> 04:29:23,100
the floor is yours.

6820
04:29:23,100 --> 04:29:24,100
>> thank you, commissioner.

6821
04:29:24,100 --> 04:29:26,100
I want to thank you all for the

6822
04:29:26,100 --> 04:29:28,100
opportunity to, you know serve

6823
04:29:28,100 --> 04:29:30,100
as the police chief for the city

6824
04:29:30,100 --> 04:29:32,100
of sunrise.

6825
04:29:32,100 --> 04:29:35,100
it's a honor to serve as chief

6826
04:29:35,100 --> 04:29:37,100
in a city such as this.

6827
04:29:37,100 --> 04:29:39,100
there is an attachment to the

6828
04:29:39,100 --> 04:29:40,100
background.

6829
04:29:40,100 --> 04:29:41,100
I won't go through the whole

6830
04:29:41,100 --> 04:29:42,100
thing.

6831
04:29:42,100 --> 04:29:43,100
>> please don't.

6832
04:29:43,100 --> 04:29:44,100
>> it's too long.

6833
04:29:44,100 --> 04:29:45,100
>> I did want to say though we

6834
04:29:45,100 --> 04:29:47,100
have been very successful in the

6835
04:29:47,100 --> 04:29:49,100
police department in partnering

6836
04:29:49,100 --> 04:29:51,100
with the community as a way to

6837
04:29:51,100 --> 04:29:52,100
keep the crime at bay and to

6838
04:29:52,100 --> 04:29:54,100
improve the quality of life for

6839
04:29:54,100 --> 04:29:55,100
our residents.

6840
04:29:55,100 --> 04:29:57,100
as best the police department

6841
04:29:57,100 --> 04:29:58,100
can do.

6842
04:29:58,100 --> 04:30:00,100
even with all of the challenges

6843
04:30:00,100 --> 04:30:02,100
out in the world today.

6844
04:30:02,100 --> 04:30:03,100
covid is a huge challenge.

6845
04:30:03,100 --> 04:30:07,100
there is a cry in the law

6846
04:30:07,100 --> 04:30:09,401
enforcement word or criminal

6847
04:30:10,100 --> 04:30:12,100
justice world for social

6848
04:30:12,100 --> 04:30:13,100
justice.

6849
04:30:13,100 --> 04:30:14,100
the sunrise police department

6850
04:30:14,100 --> 04:30:16,100
has been able to recognize that,

6851
04:30:16,100 --> 04:30:18,100
adapt our method of policing in

6852
04:30:18,100 --> 04:30:20,100
a manner that is consistent with

6853
04:30:20,100 --> 04:30:22,100
community expectations and

6854
04:30:22,100 --> 04:30:23,100
community requirements.

6855
04:30:23,100 --> 04:30:25,100
I think we have been successful

6856
04:30:25,100 --> 04:30:27,100
with that.

6857
04:30:27,100 --> 04:30:28,100
police department is engaged

6858
04:30:28,100 --> 04:30:30,100
with this community.

6859
04:30:30,100 --> 04:30:32,100
like has never happened in the

6860
04:30:32,100 --> 04:30:33,100
history of the police

6861
04:30:33,100 --> 04:30:34,100
department.

6862
04:30:34,100 --> 04:30:37,601
we are out there and engaged.

6863
04:30:38,100 --> 04:30:40,100
I, I usually I think you

6864
04:30:40,100 --> 04:30:41,100
recognize this and the

6865
04:30:41,100 --> 04:30:43,100
commission recognizes I troy to

6866
04:30:43,100 --> 04:30:45,100
stay humble about things.

6867
04:30:45,100 --> 04:30:47,100
I won't be for now, for one

6868
04:30:47,100 --> 04:30:49,100
aspect of the police department.

6869
04:30:49,100 --> 04:30:51,100
the men and women of the sunrise

6870
04:30:51,100 --> 04:30:52,100
police department are second to

6871
04:30:52,100 --> 04:30:53,100
none.

6872
04:30:53,100 --> 04:30:55,100
they're getting this done.

6873
04:30:55,100 --> 04:30:57,100
you know because of their hard

6874
04:30:57,100 --> 04:30:58,100
work.

6875
04:30:58,100 --> 04:30:59,100
because of their efforts of my

6876
04:30:59,100 --> 04:31:01,100
command staff, mid level

6877
04:31:01,100 --> 04:31:03,100
management and line police

6878
04:31:03,100 --> 04:31:05,100
officers other agencies.

6879
04:31:06,100 --> 04:31:08,100
I have talked to chiefs and

6880
04:31:08,100 --> 04:31:10,100
leaders from other cities they

6881
04:31:10,100 --> 04:31:12,100
see our programs, see our

6882
04:31:12,100 --> 04:31:14,100
effectiveness in the police

6883
04:31:14,100 --> 04:31:15,100
department.

6884
04:31:15,100 --> 04:31:16,100
they try to emulate us.

6885
04:31:16,100 --> 04:31:18,100
I read an article today about a

6886
04:31:18,100 --> 04:31:20,100
south florida --

6887
04:31:20,100 --> 04:31:22,100
>> delray beach.

6888
04:31:22,100 --> 04:31:24,100
>> ice cream truck.

6889
04:31:25,100 --> 04:31:26,100
just came to them.

6890
04:31:26,100 --> 04:31:29,100
>> I think it's a testament to a

6891
04:31:29,100 --> 04:31:30,100
successful.

6892
04:31:30,100 --> 04:31:31,100
I have had most of the police

6893
04:31:31,100 --> 04:31:33,100
chiefs come to the police

6894
04:31:33,100 --> 04:31:35,100
department and ask us how we do

6895
04:31:35,100 --> 04:31:36,100
that.

6896
04:31:36,100 --> 04:31:38,100
I use that as an example.

6897
04:31:38,100 --> 04:31:40,100
I will go back to being humble

6898
04:31:40,100 --> 04:31:41,100
now.

6899
04:31:41,100 --> 04:31:42,100
I think that shows the

6900
04:31:42,100 --> 04:31:44,100
dedication of the men and women

6901
04:31:44,100 --> 04:31:45,100
of the sunrise police

6902
04:31:45,100 --> 04:31:46,100
department.

6903
04:31:46,100 --> 04:31:49,601
we remain a fully a credited

6904
04:31:53,100 --> 04:31:55,100
agency in the state of florida.

6905
04:31:55,100 --> 04:31:57,100
we do audits and inspections of

6906
04:31:57,100 --> 04:31:58,100
ourselves to make sure we

6907
04:31:58,100 --> 04:32:01,100
perform at the highest standard

6908
04:32:01,100 --> 04:32:02,100
we can.

6909
04:32:02,100 --> 04:32:03,100
we adapt when we don't think we

6910
04:32:03,100 --> 04:32:06,100
are and make that judgment call.

6911
04:32:06,100 --> 04:32:07,100
so, you know I'm not going to

6912
04:32:07,100 --> 04:32:08,100
continue to go on.

6913
04:32:08,100 --> 04:32:10,100
I will let you know I'm

6914
04:32:10,100 --> 04:32:12,100
committed to continue leading

6915
04:32:12,100 --> 04:32:14,100
the men and women of the sunrise

6916
04:32:14,100 --> 04:32:15,100
police department in the future

6917
04:32:15,100 --> 04:32:17,100
and do the best we can for our

6918
04:32:17,100 --> 04:32:18,100
residents.

6919
04:32:18,100 --> 04:32:19,100
thank you.

6920
04:32:19,100 --> 04:32:20,100
>> thank you, chief.

6921
04:32:20,100 --> 04:32:22,100
commissioner scuotto.

6922
04:32:22,100 --> 04:32:24,100
>> do I really have to.

6923
04:32:24,100 --> 04:32:25,100
this is like when mayor ryan

6924
04:32:25,100 --> 04:32:27,100
made me start off with something

6925
04:32:27,100 --> 04:32:28,100
else.

6926
04:32:28,100 --> 04:32:29,100
I was the first one having to

6927
04:32:29,100 --> 04:32:30,100
start off --

6928
04:32:30,100 --> 04:32:31,100
>> I know where to go.

6929
04:32:31,100 --> 04:32:32,100
>> I don't mind.

6930
04:32:32,100 --> 04:32:35,601
chief, I have a long history

6931
04:32:39,100 --> 04:32:40,100
here in sunrise.

6932
04:32:40,100 --> 04:32:43,100
I have been here for 42 years.

6933
04:32:43,100 --> 04:32:44,100
we have always.

6934
04:32:44,100 --> 04:32:46,100
my family has always had a good

6935
04:32:46,100 --> 04:32:47,100
relationship with the police

6936
04:32:47,100 --> 04:32:48,100
department.

6937
04:32:48,100 --> 04:32:51,100
even me as a kid.

6938
04:32:52,100 --> 04:32:54,100
sunset strip.

6939
04:32:54,100 --> 04:32:56,100
the a-frame police station.

6940
04:32:56,100 --> 04:32:58,100
one of the guys living on my

6941
04:32:58,100 --> 04:33:01,100
block, jerry o. He was one of

6942
04:33:01,100 --> 04:33:03,100
the dispatchers.

6943
04:33:07,100 --> 04:33:08,100
there were only a few at the

6944
04:33:08,100 --> 04:33:09,100
time.

6945
04:33:09,100 --> 04:33:12,100
he got my brother chippy a job

6946
04:33:12,100 --> 04:33:13,100
working as a dispatcher.

6947
04:33:13,100 --> 04:33:16,100
they had a gate that had a

6948
04:33:16,100 --> 04:33:17,100
buzzer.

6949
04:33:17,100 --> 04:33:20,100
they would buz you to go in.

6950
04:33:20,100 --> 04:33:21,100
a wooden gate.

6951
04:33:21,100 --> 04:33:23,100
I would go there on the weekend

6952
04:33:23,100 --> 04:33:26,100
to my brother would make me sit

6953
04:33:26,100 --> 04:33:27,100
there.

6954
04:33:27,100 --> 04:33:29,100
I was a kid, 11 years old.

6955
04:33:29,100 --> 04:33:31,100
I would hit the buzzer.

6956
04:33:31,100 --> 04:33:34,100
the guy said, if I do it one

6957
04:33:34,100 --> 04:33:37,100
more time, the guy, o. I won't

6958
04:33:37,100 --> 04:33:38,100
say what he said.

6959
04:33:38,100 --> 04:33:39,100
I'm just saying.

6960
04:33:39,100 --> 04:33:42,100
from that time you know we

6961
04:33:42,100 --> 04:33:43,100
always were involved with the

6962
04:33:43,100 --> 04:33:45,100
police department.

6963
04:33:46,100 --> 04:33:48,100
I have been through a lot of

6964
04:33:48,100 --> 04:33:49,100
different chiefs.

6965
04:33:49,100 --> 04:33:52,100
I will say sometimes change

6966
04:33:53,100 --> 04:33:55,100
changes people.

6967
04:33:56,100 --> 04:33:59,601
when chief boyet was here he

6968
04:34:00,100 --> 04:34:03,100
first initiated computers to the

6969
04:34:04,100 --> 04:34:05,100
police officers.

6970
04:34:05,100 --> 04:34:08,100
we didn't have computers: chief

6971
04:34:10,100 --> 04:34:11,100
brooks brought a different

6972
04:34:11,100 --> 04:34:13,100
perspective.

6973
04:34:13,100 --> 04:34:15,100
now yourself.

6974
04:34:16,100 --> 04:34:18,100
you are probably one of the

6975
04:34:18,100 --> 04:34:20,100
youngest chiefs not only for

6976
04:34:20,100 --> 04:34:22,401
sunrise but probably around.

6977
04:34:24,100 --> 04:34:27,601
you have showed enthusiasm of so

6978
04:34:28,100 --> 04:34:30,100
many different things that you

6979
04:34:30,100 --> 04:34:32,401
do in the department.

6980
04:34:33,100 --> 04:34:34,100
whether you continue to do some

6981
04:34:34,100 --> 04:34:37,601
things that each of them have

6982
04:34:39,100 --> 04:34:40,100
done and continue to do the

6983
04:34:40,100 --> 04:34:42,100
programs and there are things

6984
04:34:42,100 --> 04:34:43,100
you have added.

6985
04:34:43,100 --> 04:34:44,100
you have grown.

6986
04:34:44,100 --> 04:34:46,100
you will grow a hot.

6987
04:34:46,100 --> 04:34:47,100
because some of your police

6988
04:34:47,100 --> 04:34:49,100
officers are older than you.

6989
04:34:49,100 --> 04:34:53,801
so I'm sure you get a lot of

6990
04:34:54,100 --> 04:34:57,100
feedback from them knowing that

6991
04:34:57,100 --> 04:34:59,100
you know they have been around a

6992
04:34:59,100 --> 04:35:01,100
long time.

6993
04:35:01,100 --> 04:35:04,100
you have made more appointments

6994
04:35:05,100 --> 04:35:07,100
then any chief probably in the

6995
04:35:07,100 --> 04:35:10,100
history sunrise in such a short

6996
04:35:10,100 --> 04:35:11,100
period of time.

6997
04:35:11,100 --> 04:35:13,100
you have made more sergeants,

6998
04:35:13,100 --> 04:35:15,100
lieutenants, majors, deputy

6999
04:35:17,100 --> 04:35:18,100
chiefs.

7000
04:35:18,100 --> 04:35:20,100
I'm just saying you have got to

7001
04:35:20,100 --> 04:35:21,100
do it all.

7002
04:35:21,100 --> 04:35:24,601
not all of your positions were

7003
04:35:29,100 --> 04:35:31,401
maybe the right choice.

7004
04:35:32,100 --> 04:35:34,100
could of been right choice for

7005
04:35:34,100 --> 04:35:36,100
the time.

7006
04:35:37,100 --> 04:35:40,100
this is what it is.

7007
04:35:41,100 --> 04:35:44,100
one thing chief brooks always

7008
04:35:44,100 --> 04:35:47,100
said round peg in a road hole.

7009
04:35:47,100 --> 04:35:49,100
don't stuff something else in,

7010
04:35:49,100 --> 04:35:50,100
it won't fit.

7011
04:35:50,100 --> 04:35:52,100
it's also a learning curve.

7012
04:35:52,100 --> 04:35:54,100
you have to feel who will be

7013
04:35:54,100 --> 04:35:55,100
under you.

7014
04:35:55,100 --> 04:35:56,100
side by side with you.

7015
04:35:56,100 --> 04:35:58,401
through all of this.

7016
04:36:01,100 --> 04:36:03,100
you mention different aspects of

7017
04:36:03,100 --> 04:36:06,601
how the pandemic and how social

7018
04:36:07,100 --> 04:36:08,100
things that are going on out

7019
04:36:08,100 --> 04:36:09,100
there.

7020
04:36:09,100 --> 04:36:11,100
we put it this way.

7021
04:36:11,100 --> 04:36:13,100
we don't see any of that in the

7022
04:36:13,100 --> 04:36:14,100
city.

7023
04:36:14,100 --> 04:36:16,100
because we have always been on

7024
04:36:16,100 --> 04:36:17,100
the proactive side.

7025
04:36:17,100 --> 04:36:19,401
when community policing was

7026
04:36:23,100 --> 04:36:25,401
introduced that was boyet's

7027
04:36:26,100 --> 04:36:27,100
first thing.

7028
04:36:27,100 --> 04:36:28,100
they did that in brooklyn

7029
04:36:28,100 --> 04:36:31,100
because cops walked a beat.

7030
04:36:31,100 --> 04:36:32,100
they actually walked.

7031
04:36:32,100 --> 04:36:33,100
they had different things.

7032
04:36:33,100 --> 04:36:34,100
they had housing.

7033
04:36:34,100 --> 04:36:35,100
they had transit.

7034
04:36:35,100 --> 04:36:36,100
many different things.

7035
04:36:36,100 --> 04:36:40,801
they also had two cops in a car.

7036
04:36:42,100 --> 04:36:43,100
here it's different.

7037
04:36:43,100 --> 04:36:45,100
you have one cop in a car.

7038
04:36:45,100 --> 04:36:46,100
sometimes it's different because

7039
04:36:46,100 --> 04:36:49,100
that one cop is now the boss.

7040
04:36:49,100 --> 04:36:51,100
he doesn't have a partner to

7041
04:36:51,100 --> 04:36:52,100
bounce things off.

7042
04:36:52,100 --> 04:36:54,100
police, I mean fire is not one

7043
04:36:54,100 --> 04:36:56,100
person.

7044
04:36:56,100 --> 04:36:58,100
it's either multiple people on

7045
04:36:58,100 --> 04:37:00,100
the rescue or multiple people on

7046
04:37:00,100 --> 04:37:01,100
the fire truck.

7047
04:37:01,100 --> 04:37:03,100
so it's living they work as a

7048
04:37:03,100 --> 04:37:04,100
team.

7049
04:37:04,100 --> 04:37:05,100
not to say you don't.

7050
04:37:05,100 --> 04:37:07,100
so it's just a different way out

7051
04:37:07,100 --> 04:37:08,100
there.

7052
04:37:08,100 --> 04:37:10,100
we don't look at it like that.

7053
04:37:10,100 --> 04:37:12,100
all of the programs that you do.

7054
04:37:12,100 --> 04:37:15,601
is mostly all of the involvement

7055
04:37:20,100 --> 04:37:21,100
you do in the community.

7056
04:37:21,100 --> 04:37:24,100
the resource officers started in

7057
04:37:28,100 --> 04:37:29,100
the high schools.

7058
04:37:29,100 --> 04:37:31,100
then sunrise went to middle

7059
04:37:31,100 --> 04:37:33,100
school and then elementary

7060
04:37:33,100 --> 04:37:34,100
school.

7061
04:37:34,100 --> 04:37:36,100
by brooks starting the lemonade

7062
04:37:36,100 --> 04:37:38,100
stands and burger and hot doggy

7063
04:37:38,100 --> 04:37:39,100
vents.

7064
04:37:39,100 --> 04:37:40,100
we're always engaged in the

7065
04:37:40,100 --> 04:37:41,100
community.

7066
04:37:41,100 --> 04:37:42,100
people like, you're not just

7067
04:37:42,100 --> 04:37:43,100
giving out free food.

7068
04:37:43,100 --> 04:37:46,100
you're going to a neighborhood

7069
04:37:46,100 --> 04:37:48,100
of the hundred or two hundred

7070
04:37:48,100 --> 04:37:51,601
people you serve maybe five of

7071
04:37:52,100 --> 04:37:54,100
them come to you and say see

7072
04:37:54,100 --> 04:37:55,100
that house right had there.

7073
04:37:55,100 --> 04:37:57,100
see that business there.

7074
04:37:57,100 --> 04:37:59,100
did you ski the car right there.

7075
04:37:59,100 --> 04:38:02,100
so it's more as a information

7076
04:38:02,100 --> 04:38:03,100
gathering too.

7077
04:38:03,100 --> 04:38:05,100
we're always proactive.

7078
04:38:07,100 --> 04:38:10,100
you know previous city managers

7079
04:38:10,100 --> 04:38:12,100
always worry about blight.

7080
04:38:12,100 --> 04:38:14,100
always said we will never have

7081
04:38:14,100 --> 04:38:15,100
blight.

7082
04:38:15,100 --> 04:38:17,100
it could happen.

7083
04:38:18,100 --> 04:38:19,100
we don't make it happen.

7084
04:38:19,100 --> 04:38:21,100
you can drive around any

7085
04:38:21,100 --> 04:38:22,100
business.

7086
04:38:22,100 --> 04:38:23,100
there are no boards.

7087
04:38:23,100 --> 04:38:26,100
we have tops on the roof because

7088
04:38:26,100 --> 04:38:27,100
a hurricane.

7089
04:38:27,100 --> 04:38:28,100
we don't have boarded up stores,

7090
04:38:28,100 --> 04:38:30,100
broken windows.

7091
04:38:32,100 --> 04:38:34,100
so I think your following to me.

7092
04:38:34,100 --> 04:38:36,100
in the same footsteps what had

7093
04:38:36,100 --> 04:38:38,100
we have had.

7094
04:38:38,100 --> 04:38:40,100
we continue.

7095
04:38:40,100 --> 04:38:42,100
I enjoy working with you.

7096
04:38:42,100 --> 04:38:44,100
you have a great command staff.

7097
04:38:44,100 --> 04:38:46,100
there is probably no one better

7098
04:38:46,100 --> 04:38:49,100
than who you have standing,

7099
04:38:50,100 --> 04:38:51,100
sitting back there.

7100
04:38:51,100 --> 04:38:54,100
apologize that your standing at

7101
04:38:54,100 --> 04:38:56,100
a podium where the two previous

7102
04:38:56,100 --> 04:38:58,100
people are sitting as a desk.

7103
04:38:58,100 --> 04:38:59,100
now a little more comfortable.

7104
04:38:59,100 --> 04:39:02,100
it's you at the podium.

7105
04:39:02,100 --> 04:39:05,601
the only difference is I will

7106
04:39:07,100 --> 04:39:11,100
put back on the agenda that you

7107
04:39:11,100 --> 04:39:14,100
will do a report and the fire

7108
04:39:14,100 --> 04:39:16,100
chief will do a report.

7109
04:39:16,100 --> 04:39:18,100
it's good that you get to get

7110
04:39:18,100 --> 04:39:20,100
what we have to do like right

7111
04:39:20,100 --> 04:39:21,100
now.

7112
04:39:21,100 --> 04:39:23,100
this is difficult for us to sit

7113
04:39:23,100 --> 04:39:25,100
up here and evaluate ate you.

7114
04:39:25,100 --> 04:39:28,100
right or kim, mark, felicia.

7115
04:39:34,100 --> 04:39:37,100
imagine if I sat there and you

7116
04:39:37,100 --> 04:39:39,100
five that we're interviewing.

7117
04:39:39,100 --> 04:39:40,100
I'm sure there are a lot of

7118
04:39:40,100 --> 04:39:41,100
things --

7119
04:39:41,100 --> 04:39:43,401
>> we wouldn't hire you.

7120
04:39:44,100 --> 04:39:46,100
>> I'm just saying in a general.

7121
04:39:46,100 --> 04:39:47,100
you know.

7122
04:39:47,100 --> 04:39:50,601
it's very difficult for you to

7123
04:39:52,100 --> 04:39:54,100
take from what we say.

7124
04:39:54,100 --> 04:39:55,100
if it was on a negative.

7125
04:39:55,100 --> 04:39:58,601
we like working with the people

7126
04:40:01,100 --> 04:40:02,100
we.

7127
04:40:02,100 --> 04:40:03,100
have think we have a good

7128
04:40:03,100 --> 04:40:04,100
working group.

7129
04:40:04,100 --> 04:40:06,100
it's hard to find the negative

7130
04:40:06,100 --> 04:40:07,100
sometimes.

7131
04:40:07,100 --> 04:40:10,601
I think we work so well.

7132
04:40:11,100 --> 04:40:14,100
it's different when people are

7133
04:40:14,100 --> 04:40:15,100
always competing.

7134
04:40:15,100 --> 04:40:19,100
you know if, this is my personal

7135
04:40:19,100 --> 04:40:21,100
opinion, if the mayor was from a

7136
04:40:21,100 --> 04:40:23,100
district and all of us were from

7137
04:40:23,100 --> 04:40:25,100
a district I think it would be a

7138
04:40:25,100 --> 04:40:26,100
little different.

7139
04:40:26,100 --> 04:40:28,100
we would fight among each other

7140
04:40:28,100 --> 04:40:29,100
for different things.

7141
04:40:29,100 --> 04:40:31,100
you're working for the whole,

7142
04:40:31,100 --> 04:40:33,100
you're working for us.

7143
04:40:33,100 --> 04:40:35,100
you're not worried about just

7144
04:40:35,100 --> 04:40:38,100
the e side or west side.

7145
04:40:38,100 --> 04:40:40,100
just a mall or a business.

7146
04:40:40,100 --> 04:40:42,100
you worry about everyone and

7147
04:40:42,100 --> 04:40:43,100
everything.

7148
04:40:43,100 --> 04:40:46,100
it's a tough part to do that you

7149
04:40:46,100 --> 04:40:47,100
are doing.

7150
04:40:47,100 --> 04:40:49,100
then also have to worry about

7151
04:40:49,100 --> 04:40:50,100
what is going on in other

7152
04:40:50,100 --> 04:40:52,100
communities surrounding us.

7153
04:40:54,100 --> 04:40:55,100
what problems and issues they

7154
04:40:55,100 --> 04:40:56,100
have.

7155
04:40:56,100 --> 04:40:59,601
because we have cities on either

7156
04:41:01,100 --> 04:41:03,100
side of us and everyone else has

7157
04:41:03,100 --> 04:41:04,100
something going on.

7158
04:41:04,100 --> 04:41:06,100
it's good to know that you are

7159
04:41:06,100 --> 04:41:10,100
an elected by your peers as the

7160
04:41:10,100 --> 04:41:12,100
fire chief association where you

7161
04:41:12,100 --> 04:41:14,100
have that good relationship with

7162
04:41:14,100 --> 04:41:16,100
people and you have the good

7163
04:41:16,100 --> 04:41:18,100
relationship with other cities

7164
04:41:18,100 --> 04:41:20,100
where you guys can collaborate

7165
04:41:20,100 --> 04:41:23,100
together on a normal basis and

7166
04:41:23,100 --> 04:41:24,100
help each other.

7167
04:41:24,100 --> 04:41:27,100
the same way we have with the

7168
04:41:27,100 --> 04:41:31,801
ems where if a call comes in, if

7169
04:41:32,100 --> 04:41:35,100
tamarack is the closest or

7170
04:41:35,100 --> 04:41:38,100
lauder hill or plantation is the

7171
04:41:38,100 --> 04:41:40,100
closest, who ever is they're the

7172
04:41:40,100 --> 04:41:41,100
first one on scene.

7173
04:41:41,100 --> 04:41:44,100
so, you know your communication

7174
04:41:46,100 --> 04:41:48,100
skills with me are, you know

7175
04:41:48,100 --> 04:41:49,100
dynamite.

7176
04:41:49,100 --> 04:41:52,100
I do get calls at 1:00 o'clock,

7177
04:41:52,100 --> 04:41:54,100
2:00 o'clock, 3:00 o'clock in

7178
04:41:54,100 --> 04:41:55,100
the morning.

7179
04:41:55,100 --> 04:41:56,100
ill don't mind.

7180
04:41:56,100 --> 04:41:57,100
I don't e-mail.

7181
04:41:57,100 --> 04:41:58,100
I don't text.

7182
04:41:58,100 --> 04:42:00,100
that may annoy you, you get the

7183
04:42:00,100 --> 04:42:02,100
text and have to wake up to

7184
04:42:02,100 --> 04:42:04,100
actually call my.

7185
04:42:04,100 --> 04:42:05,100
that's part of the way you make

7186
04:42:05,100 --> 04:42:07,100
the big bucks.

7187
04:42:08,100 --> 04:42:10,100
I wish you the best.

7188
04:42:10,100 --> 04:42:11,100
you have a great staff.

7189
04:42:11,100 --> 04:42:13,100
the men and women of your

7190
04:42:13,100 --> 04:42:15,100
department.

7191
04:42:15,100 --> 04:42:17,100
I don't really hear anything

7192
04:42:17,100 --> 04:42:20,100
negative about you from them.

7193
04:42:21,100 --> 04:42:23,100
I wish you the best of luck.

7194
04:42:23,100 --> 04:42:24,100
continue to do what you're

7195
04:42:24,100 --> 04:42:26,100
doing.

7196
04:42:27,100 --> 04:42:29,100
you definitely get a favor able

7197
04:42:29,100 --> 04:42:30,100
from me.

7198
04:42:30,100 --> 04:42:31,100
>> thank you.

7199
04:42:31,100 --> 04:42:32,100
>> you're welcome.

7200
04:42:32,100 --> 04:42:33,100
>> commissioner douglas.

7201
04:42:33,100 --> 04:42:35,401
>> thank you, deputy mayor.

7202
04:42:40,100 --> 04:42:44,201
so, mr. Police chief years ago a

7203
04:42:45,100 --> 04:42:48,100
couple of years ago obviously

7204
04:42:49,100 --> 04:42:53,201
one of the first tasks I had

7205
04:42:55,100 --> 04:42:57,100
joining the commission was to

7206
04:42:57,100 --> 04:42:59,100
weight in on who would be the

7207
04:42:59,100 --> 04:43:01,100
next police chief.

7208
04:43:01,100 --> 04:43:03,100
obviously different ideas about

7209
04:43:03,100 --> 04:43:05,100
where we wanted to go and who

7210
04:43:05,100 --> 04:43:07,100
the leadership should be were

7211
04:43:07,100 --> 04:43:08,100
thrown out.

7212
04:43:08,100 --> 04:43:10,401
ultimately this commission chose

7213
04:43:14,100 --> 04:43:15,100
you.

7214
04:43:15,100 --> 04:43:16,100
I think it was largely stated

7215
04:43:16,100 --> 04:43:18,401
that your community policing

7216
04:43:22,100 --> 04:43:25,100
philosophy won the day as you

7217
04:43:25,100 --> 04:43:27,100
indicated it.

7218
04:43:28,100 --> 04:43:31,100
it has born itself out.

7219
04:43:31,100 --> 04:43:34,100
since you have been chief.

7220
04:43:34,100 --> 04:43:37,601
you know there was a mention

7221
04:43:38,100 --> 04:43:41,100
about the social demands that

7222
04:43:42,100 --> 04:43:44,100
have been made not just in

7223
04:43:44,100 --> 04:43:47,100
sunrise or broward or florida,

7224
04:43:47,100 --> 04:43:49,100
but across this nation.

7225
04:43:49,100 --> 04:43:51,100
for some adjustment.

7226
04:43:52,100 --> 04:43:53,100
think the population continues

7227
04:43:53,100 --> 04:43:55,100
to support police.

7228
04:43:55,100 --> 04:43:57,100
some adjustment in how we police

7229
04:43:57,100 --> 04:43:58,100
our communities.

7230
04:43:58,100 --> 04:44:02,201
I think one of the advantages we

7231
04:44:09,100 --> 04:44:11,100
have is police leadership that

7232
04:44:11,100 --> 04:44:13,100
is geared towards you being

7233
04:44:13,100 --> 04:44:14,100
flexible in that regard because

7234
04:44:14,100 --> 04:44:17,100
you already believe that. I can

7235
04:44:17,100 --> 04:44:18,100
imagine there are many

7236
04:44:18,100 --> 04:44:19,100
communities where there needs to

7237
04:44:19,100 --> 04:44:20,100
be a change.

7238
04:44:20,100 --> 04:44:22,100
there needs to be a shift.

7239
04:44:22,100 --> 04:44:26,100
now the leadership has to now be

7240
04:44:26,100 --> 04:44:29,100
pulling teeth with their police.

7241
04:44:29,100 --> 04:44:30,100
in order to shift that

7242
04:44:30,100 --> 04:44:31,100
direction.

7243
04:44:31,100 --> 04:44:33,100
so I think we're lucky for

7244
04:44:33,100 --> 04:44:36,601
having chosen a leader that is

7245
04:44:40,100 --> 04:44:42,401
already philosophically bent in

7246
04:44:47,100 --> 04:44:48,100
that direction.

7247
04:44:48,100 --> 04:44:50,401
obviously it's a challenge

7248
04:44:51,100 --> 04:44:52,100
leading with the turn overs that

7249
04:44:52,100 --> 04:44:54,100
have occurred.

7250
04:44:55,100 --> 04:44:57,100
my colleague indicated that you

7251
04:44:57,100 --> 04:45:00,100
have appointed more people than

7252
04:45:01,100 --> 04:45:03,100
anyone in history.

7253
04:45:03,100 --> 04:45:06,100
I guess he has history to say

7254
04:45:06,100 --> 04:45:07,100
so.

7255
04:45:07,100 --> 04:45:08,100
he went back and knows this more

7256
04:45:08,100 --> 04:45:10,100
so than I would, I couldn't put

7257
04:45:10,100 --> 04:45:12,100
a number on it I certainly by

7258
04:45:12,100 --> 04:45:15,100
observation would see that there

7259
04:45:16,100 --> 04:45:17,100
is quite a bit.

7260
04:45:17,100 --> 04:45:20,601
some of it thankfully . So I'm

7261
04:45:23,100 --> 04:45:24,100
not crying any tears.

7262
04:45:24,100 --> 04:45:26,401
obviously some would come

7263
04:45:28,100 --> 04:45:29,100
naturally.

7264
04:45:29,100 --> 04:45:32,100
if there are three potential

7265
04:45:34,100 --> 04:45:36,100
leaders of a different they

7266
04:45:36,100 --> 04:45:38,401
would have different philosophic

7267
04:45:39,100 --> 04:45:40,100
al bent.

7268
04:45:40,100 --> 04:45:42,100
some in the second tier

7269
04:45:42,100 --> 04:45:44,100
leadership may not feel they

7270
04:45:44,100 --> 04:45:46,100
would do well in the ultimate

7271
04:45:46,100 --> 04:45:47,100
leader.

7272
04:45:47,100 --> 04:45:48,100
whether it's you or any prior

7273
04:45:48,100 --> 04:45:51,100
colleague that competed for the

7274
04:45:51,100 --> 04:45:52,100
job.

7275
04:45:52,100 --> 04:45:55,100
who ever got the job -p they

7276
04:45:55,100 --> 04:45:56,100
probably would of resulted in

7277
04:45:56,100 --> 04:45:59,100
some attrition as a result of

7278
04:45:59,100 --> 04:46:02,100
living up to this leader's

7279
04:46:02,100 --> 04:46:04,100
expectation or how would you

7280
04:46:04,100 --> 04:46:05,100
like to change.

7281
04:46:05,100 --> 04:46:07,401
it's obviously something that

7282
04:46:12,100 --> 04:46:14,100
generates risk.

7283
04:46:16,100 --> 04:46:19,601
however where you have high turn

7284
04:46:23,100 --> 04:46:25,100
overs especially at this senior

7285
04:46:25,100 --> 04:46:26,100
level.

7286
04:46:26,100 --> 04:46:29,100
I don't think you can you can't

7287
04:46:29,100 --> 04:46:31,100
really just train judgment into

7288
04:46:31,100 --> 04:46:32,100
somebody.

7289
04:46:32,100 --> 04:46:35,100
you need to develop that

7290
04:46:36,100 --> 04:46:38,100
experience overtime.

7291
04:46:40,100 --> 04:46:43,100
you don't want a rookie becoming

7292
04:46:43,100 --> 04:46:44,100
a lieutenant over night.

7293
04:46:44,100 --> 04:46:48,100
often times we, we may have for

7294
04:46:48,100 --> 04:46:51,100
example an event and the

7295
04:46:53,100 --> 04:46:54,100
lieutenant is the highest level

7296
04:46:54,100 --> 04:46:57,100
of command on the scene.

7297
04:46:58,100 --> 04:47:01,100
they maybe called ton to make

7298
04:47:01,100 --> 04:47:03,100
quick decision that's can't wait

7299
04:47:03,100 --> 04:47:07,201
for the major or deputy chief or

7300
04:47:08,100 --> 04:47:09,100
chief.

7301
04:47:09,100 --> 04:47:10,100
he want to authorize and develop

7302
04:47:10,100 --> 04:47:12,100
our sergeants appropriately

7303
04:47:13,100 --> 04:47:14,100
develop our lieutenants

7304
04:47:14,100 --> 04:47:16,100
appropriately before they get

7305
04:47:16,100 --> 04:47:18,100
more responsibility.

7306
04:47:18,100 --> 04:47:20,100
there is flex in from.

7307
04:47:20,100 --> 04:47:23,601
thus far you have managed with

7308
04:47:26,100 --> 04:47:30,201
the team you have and have made

7309
04:47:32,100 --> 04:47:34,100
appropriate adjustments as

7310
04:47:35,100 --> 04:47:36,100
necessary.

7311
04:47:36,100 --> 04:47:37,100
pointing to the covid

7312
04:47:37,100 --> 04:47:38,100
environment your police officers

7313
04:47:38,100 --> 04:47:41,100
have gone above and beyond.

7314
04:47:42,100 --> 04:47:44,100
I mean we have had for example

7315
04:47:44,100 --> 04:47:46,100
protests in our like al

7316
04:47:46,100 --> 04:47:47,100
community.

7317
04:47:47,100 --> 04:47:49,100
we did not get any neck tiff

7318
04:47:49,100 --> 04:47:52,601
feedback with respect to how our

7319
04:47:53,100 --> 04:47:54,100
men and women went out there and

7320
04:47:54,100 --> 04:47:56,100
policed the community.

7321
04:47:57,100 --> 04:48:00,100
even under the most challenging

7322
04:48:02,100 --> 04:48:03,100
of circumstances.

7323
04:48:03,100 --> 04:48:06,100
for the more serious crimes

7324
04:48:06,100 --> 04:48:08,100
occurring we have largely been

7325
04:48:08,100 --> 04:48:10,100
able to get a solution to those

7326
04:48:10,100 --> 04:48:12,100
including those that would of

7327
04:48:12,100 --> 04:48:13,100
come into our community and

7328
04:48:13,100 --> 04:48:15,100
caused mayhem.

7329
04:48:15,100 --> 04:48:18,100
we have largely been able to

7330
04:48:18,100 --> 04:48:19,100
track them down.

7331
04:48:19,100 --> 04:48:20,100
make the arrest and bring them

7332
04:48:20,100 --> 04:48:21,100
before the courts.

7333
04:48:21,100 --> 04:48:24,601
obviously that is a testament to

7334
04:48:25,100 --> 04:48:27,100
the men and women that you lead.

7335
04:48:27,100 --> 04:48:30,601
you cheerly have the respect of

7336
04:48:34,100 --> 04:48:36,401
your men and women.

7337
04:48:38,100 --> 04:48:39,100
another reason I chose you, you

7338
04:48:39,100 --> 04:48:40,100
are military.

7339
04:48:40,100 --> 04:48:42,100
a leopard is a leopard.

7340
04:48:42,100 --> 04:48:44,100
a wolf is a wolf.

7341
04:48:44,100 --> 04:48:45,100
a sheep is a sheep.

7342
04:48:45,100 --> 04:48:48,100
I didn't choose a sheep for the

7343
04:48:48,100 --> 04:48:50,100
reasons that when you have a

7344
04:48:50,100 --> 04:48:53,100
hierarchy of machine and women

7345
04:48:54,100 --> 04:48:56,100
running around town with guns

7346
04:48:56,100 --> 04:48:57,100
you need strong leadership.

7347
04:48:57,100 --> 04:48:59,100
I believe you're that.

7348
04:48:59,100 --> 04:49:02,601
so you though we have worked

7349
04:49:04,100 --> 04:49:05,100
well together.

7350
04:49:05,100 --> 04:49:07,100
covid brought challenges which

7351
04:49:07,100 --> 04:49:09,100
your men and women have gone out

7352
04:49:09,100 --> 04:49:11,100
there to help with food drives

7353
04:49:11,100 --> 04:49:14,100
and different things that are

7354
04:49:16,100 --> 04:49:17,100
sometimes outside of the scope

7355
04:49:17,100 --> 04:49:19,100
of typical policing.

7356
04:49:20,100 --> 04:49:22,100
and I have often said that in

7357
04:49:22,100 --> 04:49:24,100
some areas we do over use the

7358
04:49:24,100 --> 04:49:25,100
police.

7359
04:49:25,100 --> 04:49:28,100
not just sunrise but generally,

7360
04:49:32,100 --> 04:49:33,100
philosophically.

7361
04:49:33,100 --> 04:49:35,100
there are so many areas that we

7362
04:49:35,100 --> 04:49:36,100
use the police that may not of

7363
04:49:36,100 --> 04:49:37,100
required police.

7364
04:49:37,100 --> 04:49:40,100
that is a big over arching issue

7365
04:49:40,100 --> 04:49:42,100
for policing across the country

7366
04:49:42,100 --> 04:49:43,100
where we bring the police into

7367
04:49:43,100 --> 04:49:46,100
contact with citizens where they

7368
04:49:46,100 --> 04:49:48,100
probably ought not to have and

7369
04:49:48,100 --> 04:49:52,201
it escalates into, I gave you a

7370
04:49:54,100 --> 04:49:55,100
command.

7371
04:49:55,100 --> 04:49:56,100
you didn't follow it.

7372
04:49:56,100 --> 04:49:58,100
I'm taking you to the ground, or

7373
04:49:58,100 --> 04:50:00,100
whatever language is used.

7374
04:50:00,100 --> 04:50:01,100
next thing you know it's

7375
04:50:01,100 --> 04:50:04,100
resisting arrest or whatever it

7376
04:50:04,100 --> 04:50:06,100
escalates.

7377
04:50:07,100 --> 04:50:08,100
probably we needed a different

7378
04:50:08,100 --> 04:50:11,100
professional for that. You have

7379
04:50:12,100 --> 04:50:13,100
been able to make the

7380
04:50:13,100 --> 04:50:14,100
adjustments.

7381
04:50:14,100 --> 04:50:17,100
you certainly have proven to be

7382
04:50:17,100 --> 04:50:19,100
a leader among leaders.

7383
04:50:19,100 --> 04:50:21,100
I have heard of the work you did

7384
04:50:21,100 --> 04:50:24,100
with the 911, 9-11 task forces

7385
04:50:26,100 --> 04:50:27,100
that were in place.

7386
04:50:27,100 --> 04:50:28,100
that was more active when the

7387
04:50:28,100 --> 04:50:30,401
formation was taking place.

7388
04:50:31,100 --> 04:50:34,601
now you're the president of the

7389
04:50:35,100 --> 04:50:37,100
broward county police chief

7390
04:50:37,100 --> 04:50:39,100
association.

7391
04:50:40,100 --> 04:50:42,100
I'm sure in that roll you have

7392
04:50:42,100 --> 04:50:44,100
been able to work very well with

7393
04:50:44,100 --> 04:50:46,401
our state attorneys, public

7394
04:50:47,100 --> 04:50:48,100
defenders.

7395
04:50:48,100 --> 04:50:50,401
other other law enforcement.

7396
04:50:56,100 --> 04:50:58,100
you represent sunrise.

7397
04:50:59,100 --> 04:51:01,100
I have listened to presentations

7398
04:51:01,100 --> 04:51:03,100
you have given to other bodies,

7399
04:51:03,100 --> 04:51:05,100
groups, community groups,

7400
04:51:05,100 --> 04:51:08,100
etcetera, I'm always in those

7401
04:51:08,100 --> 04:51:11,100
situations feeling a sense of

7402
04:51:11,100 --> 04:51:12,100
pride how you represent us.

7403
04:51:12,100 --> 04:51:14,100
in those areas that we disagree

7404
04:51:14,100 --> 04:51:17,601
we always discuss my views and

7405
04:51:23,100 --> 04:51:24,100
philosophies.

7406
04:51:24,100 --> 04:51:27,100
I have used -- reference before.

7407
04:51:27,100 --> 04:51:29,100
I won't use it tonight.

7408
04:51:29,100 --> 04:51:30,100
having five different people

7409
04:51:30,100 --> 04:51:31,100
coming with different

7410
04:51:31,100 --> 04:51:33,100
philosophies on how to police

7411
04:51:33,100 --> 04:51:35,100
and what not, obviously I don't

7412
04:51:35,100 --> 04:51:38,100
know what your conversation is

7413
04:51:38,100 --> 04:51:39,100
with my colleagues.

7414
04:51:39,100 --> 04:51:41,100
all and all I think we're close

7415
04:51:41,100 --> 04:51:42,100
together in such that you have

7416
04:51:42,100 --> 04:51:45,100
consistently been able to keep

7417
04:51:45,100 --> 04:51:47,100
us at peace.

7418
04:51:47,100 --> 04:51:50,100
I commend your efforts and

7419
04:51:51,100 --> 04:51:53,100
continue to look forward to you

7420
04:51:53,100 --> 04:51:55,100
strengthening the department.

7421
04:51:57,100 --> 04:51:59,401
stabilizing the leadership and

7422
04:52:00,100 --> 04:52:01,100
keeping our community safe.

7423
04:52:01,100 --> 04:52:02,100
>> thank you, commissioner.

7424
04:52:02,100 --> 04:52:04,100
>> assistant governor guzman.

7425
04:52:05,100 --> 04:52:08,100
>> with what I just heard.

7426
04:52:08,100 --> 04:52:10,100
I thought if we had a police

7427
04:52:10,100 --> 04:52:11,100
officer that had to be a

7428
04:52:11,100 --> 04:52:14,100
resident that would suck that

7429
04:52:14,100 --> 04:52:16,100
you wouldn't be here now.

7430
04:52:16,100 --> 04:52:17,100
I'm glad you are here.

7431
04:52:17,100 --> 04:52:19,100
>> you just have to move within

7432
04:52:19,100 --> 04:52:20,100
six months.

7433
04:52:20,100 --> 04:52:21,100
[laughing]

7434
04:52:21,100 --> 04:52:23,401
I'm just saying, right.

7435
04:52:26,100 --> 04:52:28,100
I had my first encounter with

7436
04:52:28,100 --> 04:52:30,100
you and the police department

7437
04:52:30,100 --> 04:52:32,401
2016, 2017 with my son jose.

7438
04:52:34,100 --> 04:52:37,100
as a resident I was so thankful

7439
04:52:37,100 --> 04:52:39,100
that you were, you and your team

7440
04:52:39,100 --> 04:52:40,100
were involved in the community.

7441
04:52:40,100 --> 04:52:42,100
welcoming me and my son.

7442
04:52:42,100 --> 04:52:45,100
you know showing that level of

7443
04:52:45,100 --> 04:52:48,100
engagement and open arms into

7444
04:52:49,100 --> 04:52:50,100
your, your building.

7445
04:52:50,100 --> 04:52:52,100
so I want to thank you for all

7446
04:52:52,100 --> 04:52:55,100
you have done during those

7447
04:52:55,100 --> 04:52:57,100
years, getting to know you, the

7448
04:52:57,100 --> 04:52:59,100
community, engagement officers.

7449
04:52:59,100 --> 04:53:01,100
I want to commend you also for

7450
04:53:01,100 --> 04:53:03,100
the diversity in the city.

7451
04:53:03,100 --> 04:53:05,100
I know years ago the kind of,

7452
04:53:05,100 --> 04:53:07,100
you know culture we had.

7453
04:53:07,100 --> 04:53:08,100
versus now.

7454
04:53:08,100 --> 04:53:10,100
it's really nice to see, you

7455
04:53:10,100 --> 04:53:12,100
know not just black american

7456
04:53:12,100 --> 04:53:14,100
officers but hispanic, and

7457
04:53:14,100 --> 04:53:15,100
women.

7458
04:53:15,100 --> 04:53:17,401
you have major labell.

7459
04:53:19,100 --> 04:53:20,100
that's amazing.

7460
04:53:20,100 --> 04:53:21,100
thank you for that part of your

7461
04:53:21,100 --> 04:53:23,100
department.

7462
04:53:24,100 --> 04:53:26,100
again going back to community

7463
04:53:26,100 --> 04:53:27,100
policing.

7464
04:53:27,100 --> 04:53:30,100
I don't think any other city

7465
04:53:30,100 --> 04:53:31,100
anywhere.

7466
04:53:31,100 --> 04:53:33,100
broward, miami., west palm have

7467
04:53:33,100 --> 04:53:35,100
what you do.

7468
04:53:35,100 --> 04:53:36,100
you're not just the ice cream

7469
04:53:36,100 --> 04:53:37,100
and barbecues.

7470
04:53:37,100 --> 04:53:39,100
I mean real conversations.

7471
04:53:39,100 --> 04:53:41,401
one-on-one mentoring and getting

7472
04:53:46,100 --> 04:53:47,100
to know individuals.

7473
04:53:47,100 --> 04:53:49,100
east, west, central.

7474
04:53:49,100 --> 04:53:51,100
I think there is a level of

7475
04:53:51,100 --> 04:53:53,100
comfort to walk up to a officer

7476
04:53:53,100 --> 04:53:56,100
and now you will have a

7477
04:53:56,100 --> 04:53:59,100
conversation and not looked down

7478
04:53:59,100 --> 04:54:02,100
at, like get away from me.

7479
04:54:02,100 --> 04:54:03,100
some places are like that.

7480
04:54:03,100 --> 04:54:04,100
they don't want to be

7481
04:54:04,100 --> 04:54:05,100
approached.

7482
04:54:05,100 --> 04:54:06,100
I don't see that.

7483
04:54:06,100 --> 04:54:07,100
thank you.

7484
04:54:07,100 --> 04:54:09,100
I also want to mention I had the

7485
04:54:09,100 --> 04:54:11,100
opportunity to go behind the

7486
04:54:11,100 --> 04:54:13,100
scenes and see what you do for

7487
04:54:13,100 --> 04:54:14,100
training.

7488
04:54:14,100 --> 04:54:16,100
I was just really, you know you

7489
04:54:16,100 --> 04:54:18,100
don't, you don't know until you

7490
04:54:18,100 --> 04:54:19,100
see first hand.

7491
04:54:19,100 --> 04:54:21,100
so it's hard to speak without

7492
04:54:21,100 --> 04:54:23,100
knowing, being in your shoes.

7493
04:54:23,100 --> 04:54:27,100
I mean what you do, risk of your

7494
04:54:27,100 --> 04:54:28,100
lives daily.

7495
04:54:28,100 --> 04:54:30,100
I just, I really have a level of

7496
04:54:30,100 --> 04:54:32,100
appreciations for the police

7497
04:54:32,100 --> 04:54:34,100
department and the fire

7498
04:54:34,100 --> 04:54:35,100
department.

7499
04:54:35,100 --> 04:54:36,100
police is in front of me.

7500
04:54:36,100 --> 04:54:38,100
so, thank you.

7501
04:54:38,100 --> 04:54:41,100
taking the calls anytime of the

7502
04:54:41,100 --> 04:54:42,100
day.

7503
04:54:42,100 --> 04:54:43,100
you call me, I call you.

7504
04:54:43,100 --> 04:54:45,100
I know I will get a response.

7505
04:54:45,100 --> 04:54:47,100
I have questions, you're there

7506
04:54:47,100 --> 04:54:48,100
to answer.

7507
04:54:48,100 --> 04:54:50,100
there is nothing negative I can

7508
04:54:50,100 --> 04:54:52,100
say I have had to encounter the

7509
04:54:52,100 --> 04:54:54,100
last eight or nine months I have

7510
04:54:54,100 --> 04:54:55,100
been here.

7511
04:54:55,100 --> 04:54:56,100
so, thank you.

7512
04:54:56,100 --> 04:54:57,100
I will add one more thing.

7513
04:54:57,100 --> 04:54:58,100
when it comes to the social

7514
04:54:58,100 --> 04:54:59,100
media.

7515
04:54:59,100 --> 04:55:01,100
I man, granted your physical

7516
04:55:01,100 --> 04:55:03,100
presence out on the bikes is

7517
04:55:03,100 --> 04:55:04,100
great.

7518
04:55:04,100 --> 04:55:05,100
for those who are not out in the

7519
04:55:05,100 --> 04:55:06,100
community as much and they're,

7520
04:55:06,100 --> 04:55:09,100
you know, the new technology we

7521
04:55:09,100 --> 04:55:11,100
have now it's apps and social

7522
04:55:11,100 --> 04:55:13,100
media, instagram.

7523
04:55:13,100 --> 04:55:17,100
you name it, you guys are there,

7524
04:55:17,100 --> 04:55:19,100
engaged, getting information,

7525
04:55:19,100 --> 04:55:20,100
providing information, you are

7526
04:55:20,100 --> 04:55:22,100
on top of it and set the bar.

7527
04:55:22,100 --> 04:55:23,100
thank you.

7528
04:55:23,100 --> 04:55:24,100
that's.

7529
04:55:24,100 --> 04:55:25,100
announcer:

7530
04:55:25,100 --> 04:55:26,100
>> thank you, very much.

7531
04:55:26,100 --> 04:55:27,100
>> mayor ryan.

7532
04:55:27,100 --> 04:55:29,100
>> thank you, deputy mayor.

7533
04:55:29,100 --> 04:55:31,100
chief, it has been quite an

7534
04:55:31,100 --> 04:55:33,100
amazing year.

7535
04:55:34,100 --> 04:55:38,100
I want to begin by thanking you

7536
04:55:38,100 --> 04:55:41,100
for dictating a policy and

7537
04:55:42,100 --> 04:55:45,100
series of policies meant to

7538
04:55:47,100 --> 04:55:48,100
protect the men and women.

7539
04:55:48,100 --> 04:55:50,100
unlike perhaps in my law office

7540
04:55:50,100 --> 04:55:54,201
or people who have worked in a

7541
04:55:55,100 --> 04:55:57,100
office or a business, you had to

7542
04:55:57,100 --> 04:56:00,100
protect your staff because most

7543
04:56:00,100 --> 04:56:02,100
importantly you had to make sure

7544
04:56:02,100 --> 04:56:04,100
they were there for the mission.

7545
04:56:04,100 --> 04:56:06,100
I know that's been challenging.

7546
04:56:06,100 --> 04:56:09,100
we're going through a rough time

7547
04:56:09,100 --> 04:56:10,100
right now.

7548
04:56:10,100 --> 04:56:12,100
between and you your command

7549
04:56:12,100 --> 04:56:13,100
staff and the tone you set about

7550
04:56:13,100 --> 04:56:16,100
the importance of making smart

7551
04:56:16,100 --> 04:56:18,100
personal decisions because

7552
04:56:21,100 --> 04:56:23,100
having officers out or having

7553
04:56:23,100 --> 04:56:25,100
officers ill or having officers

7554
04:56:25,100 --> 04:56:28,100
not coming to work jeopardizes

7555
04:56:28,100 --> 04:56:30,100
the mission of protecting.

7556
04:56:30,100 --> 04:56:32,100
that is our first job as a city.

7557
04:56:32,100 --> 04:56:35,100
going back I want to spend very

7558
04:56:35,100 --> 04:56:36,100
little time reflecting.

7559
04:56:36,100 --> 04:56:38,100
I want to thank you for your

7560
04:56:38,100 --> 04:56:40,100
leadership as commissioner

7561
04:56:40,100 --> 04:56:43,100
douglas pointed out on the 911

7562
04:56:44,100 --> 04:56:46,100
issues as carry forward we began

7563
04:56:46,100 --> 04:56:48,100
the msd commission.

7564
04:56:49,100 --> 04:56:51,100
the police chief association

7565
04:56:51,100 --> 04:56:53,100
needed someone to testify.

7566
04:56:53,100 --> 04:56:55,100
they chose you.

7567
04:56:55,100 --> 04:56:57,100
your continued engagement of the

7568
04:56:57,100 --> 04:56:59,401
leadership of the commissioned

7569
04:57:00,100 --> 04:57:02,100
that your peers respect you.

7570
04:57:02,100 --> 04:57:05,100
not just for technical expertise

7571
04:57:05,100 --> 04:57:07,401
but operational and situational

7572
04:57:09,100 --> 04:57:11,100
awareness and what you bring.

7573
04:57:11,100 --> 04:57:14,100
I can go on about your command

7574
04:57:14,100 --> 04:57:15,100
staff.

7575
04:57:15,100 --> 04:57:16,100
choices are exemplary.

7576
04:57:16,100 --> 04:57:18,100
your personal development has

7577
04:57:18,100 --> 04:57:19,100
been as my colleagues have

7578
04:57:19,100 --> 04:57:21,100
pointed out a model for moving

7579
04:57:21,100 --> 04:57:24,100
forward in a time where we must.

7580
04:57:24,100 --> 04:57:25,100
your ability to plan and

7581
04:57:25,100 --> 04:57:26,100
organize.

7582
04:57:26,100 --> 04:57:28,401
towards the objective is

7583
04:57:33,100 --> 04:57:34,100
unmatched.

7584
04:57:34,100 --> 04:57:36,401
your interpersonal skills are

7585
04:57:37,100 --> 04:57:39,100
exemplary.

7586
04:57:44,100 --> 04:57:47,100
each of my colleagues feel you

7587
04:57:47,100 --> 04:57:49,100
treat them as the most important

7588
04:57:49,100 --> 04:57:51,100
person that needs to be updated.

7589
04:57:51,100 --> 04:57:53,100
you treat us equally.

7590
04:57:53,100 --> 04:57:54,100
we all know you update us.

7591
04:57:54,100 --> 04:57:56,100
I want to pause for a moment and

7592
04:57:56,100 --> 04:57:59,601
reflect upon perhaps some of the

7593
04:58:00,100 --> 04:58:02,100
best examples of why I believe

7594
04:58:02,100 --> 04:58:04,100
and I think my colleagues

7595
04:58:04,100 --> 04:58:06,100
believe we have the best police

7596
04:58:06,100 --> 04:58:09,100
chief in the county for sure.

7597
04:58:09,100 --> 04:58:11,100
after may 25th, 2020, the

7598
04:58:11,100 --> 04:58:14,100
death of george floyd you took

7599
04:58:14,100 --> 04:58:16,100
rapid action.

7600
04:58:16,100 --> 04:58:18,100
one of the criticisms of police

7601
04:58:18,100 --> 04:58:21,100
departments that came from prior

7602
04:58:23,100 --> 04:58:26,601
task forces and blue rip on

7603
04:58:27,100 --> 04:58:29,401
commissions locally organized my

7604
04:58:31,100 --> 04:58:33,100
congressman hastings and

7605
04:58:33,100 --> 04:58:35,100
congress woman schultz.

7606
04:58:36,100 --> 04:58:38,100
part what had we learned that

7607
04:58:38,100 --> 04:58:41,100
worked was for too long police

7608
04:58:41,100 --> 04:58:42,100
departments were silent when

7609
04:58:42,100 --> 04:58:44,100
something happened a thousand

7610
04:58:44,100 --> 04:58:45,100
miles away.

7611
04:58:45,100 --> 04:58:49,201
no matter how the conduct of the

7612
04:58:53,100 --> 04:58:54,100
police officers there was

7613
04:58:54,100 --> 04:58:55,100
silence.

7614
04:58:55,100 --> 04:58:57,401
that silence is acquiescence.

7615
04:59:01,100 --> 04:59:04,601
it's true there was this level

7616
04:59:11,100 --> 04:59:12,100
of silence.

7617
04:59:12,100 --> 04:59:15,100
your work with the police

7618
04:59:15,100 --> 04:59:17,100
chief's association to rapidly

7619
04:59:17,100 --> 04:59:19,100
issue a statement condemning the

7620
04:59:19,100 --> 04:59:21,100
activity and conduct that

7621
04:59:21,100 --> 04:59:24,100
resulted in george floyd's death

7622
04:59:27,100 --> 04:59:30,100
sent a strong message tonight

7623
04:59:31,100 --> 04:59:32,100
community about community

7624
04:59:32,100 --> 04:59:33,100
policing.

7625
04:59:33,100 --> 04:59:35,100
it's not just easy, peaceful and

7626
04:59:35,100 --> 04:59:37,100
pop up barbecues.

7627
04:59:37,100 --> 04:59:39,100
it's being there for tough

7628
04:59:39,100 --> 04:59:40,100
discussions.

7629
04:59:40,100 --> 04:59:43,601
you were further tested when the

7630
04:59:44,100 --> 04:59:46,100
community came out to be heard

7631
04:59:46,100 --> 04:59:47,100
and to march.

7632
04:59:47,100 --> 04:59:49,100
we saw how other communities

7633
04:59:49,100 --> 04:59:51,100
managed those challenging

7634
04:59:52,100 --> 04:59:54,100
situations.

7635
04:59:54,100 --> 04:59:57,100
while behind the scenes you and

7636
04:59:57,100 --> 04:59:59,100
many departments were prepared

7637
04:59:59,100 --> 05:00:01,401
for potentially the worst

7638
05:00:04,100 --> 05:00:06,100
situation you set a tone of

7639
05:00:06,100 --> 05:00:08,401
leadership with your command

7640
05:00:09,100 --> 05:00:12,601
staff that was evidence to all

7641
05:00:16,100 --> 05:00:17,100
in uniform on the street.

7642
05:00:17,100 --> 05:00:20,100
when the marchs began in sunrise

7643
05:00:20,100 --> 05:00:22,401
your philosophy that traffic

7644
05:00:24,100 --> 05:00:27,100
inconvenience was not a reason

7645
05:00:27,100 --> 05:00:29,100
to interrupt first amendment

7646
05:00:29,100 --> 05:00:31,100
rights or allow people to be

7647
05:00:31,100 --> 05:00:33,100
heard resulted in one of the

7648
05:00:33,100 --> 05:00:36,100
most unusual scenes I have had

7649
05:00:36,100 --> 05:00:37,100
the opportunity to observe in

7650
05:00:37,100 --> 05:00:40,100
the years I have been here.

7651
05:00:40,100 --> 05:00:42,100
that includes many of those

7652
05:00:42,100 --> 05:00:45,100
protesters thanking you and your

7653
05:00:46,100 --> 05:00:47,100
officers for allowing it to

7654
05:00:47,100 --> 05:00:48,100
happen.

7655
05:00:48,100 --> 05:00:50,100
to flow.

7656
05:00:50,100 --> 05:00:51,100
even moments where I saw you

7657
05:00:51,100 --> 05:00:53,100
personally get out of the car to

7658
05:00:53,100 --> 05:00:55,100
help those who were marching in

7659
05:00:55,100 --> 05:00:57,100
need of water or assistance.

7660
05:00:57,100 --> 05:00:59,100
it was honest and not for a

7661
05:00:59,100 --> 05:01:00,100
photo op.

7662
05:01:00,100 --> 05:01:02,100
it was because you truly cared

7663
05:01:02,100 --> 05:01:05,100
about those that were there with

7664
05:01:05,100 --> 05:01:07,100
not only the right but the

7665
05:01:07,100 --> 05:01:09,100
obligation to have their voices

7666
05:01:09,100 --> 05:01:10,100
heard.

7667
05:01:10,100 --> 05:01:12,100
as the march provided throughout

7668
05:01:12,100 --> 05:01:14,100
sunrise and plantation and back

7669
05:01:14,100 --> 05:01:16,100
to sunrise.

7670
05:01:16,100 --> 05:01:19,100
at the end of the day I saw

7671
05:01:19,100 --> 05:01:21,100
officers giving rides to some

7672
05:01:21,100 --> 05:01:23,100
protesters who had a long way to

7673
05:01:23,100 --> 05:01:25,100
go to cars or not feeling well.

7674
05:01:25,100 --> 05:01:28,100
they did it with great

7675
05:01:29,100 --> 05:01:31,100
sincereness.

7676
05:01:35,100 --> 05:01:37,100
it's an example of the tone you

7677
05:01:37,100 --> 05:01:38,100
set for this department that

7678
05:01:38,100 --> 05:01:39,100
makes the difference for our

7679
05:01:39,100 --> 05:01:40,100
community.

7680
05:01:40,100 --> 05:01:42,100
of course you have to do all of

7681
05:01:42,100 --> 05:01:43,100
the other things.

7682
05:01:43,100 --> 05:01:44,100
control speeding on streets,

7683
05:01:44,100 --> 05:01:46,100
people driving motorcycles too

7684
05:01:46,100 --> 05:01:49,100
fast, crime that spills no our

7685
05:01:49,100 --> 05:01:51,401
city, then cooperating with

7686
05:01:52,100 --> 05:01:55,100
agencies at state and federal as

7687
05:01:55,100 --> 05:01:56,100
well as local partners.

7688
05:01:56,100 --> 05:01:59,100
that is all expect the of you.

7689
05:01:59,100 --> 05:02:01,100
these other moments when you

7690
05:02:01,100 --> 05:02:03,100
have set the tone for how a

7691
05:02:03,100 --> 05:02:05,100
police department must relate

7692
05:02:05,100 --> 05:02:08,100
with the community, must be part

7693
05:02:08,100 --> 05:02:10,100
of the community.

7694
05:02:10,100 --> 05:02:12,100
it's demonstrated not again when

7695
05:02:12,100 --> 05:02:15,100
it's easy to put a barbecue up

7696
05:02:15,100 --> 05:02:16,100
but when times could be

7697
05:02:16,100 --> 05:02:18,100
difficult or challenging and you

7698
05:02:18,100 --> 05:02:20,100
need to be part of a difficult

7699
05:02:20,100 --> 05:02:21,100
situation.

7700
05:02:21,100 --> 05:02:23,100
I thank you for your commitment,

7701
05:02:23,100 --> 05:02:25,100
that is 24/7.

7702
05:02:25,100 --> 05:02:28,100
I frankly don't understand where

7703
05:02:28,100 --> 05:02:30,100
you get the energy to manage

7704
05:02:30,100 --> 05:02:32,100
everything that you must manage

7705
05:02:32,100 --> 05:02:35,100
and still have the time to

7706
05:02:35,100 --> 05:02:38,100
update us on sensitive issues.

7707
05:02:38,100 --> 05:02:40,100
I know we only get to hear a

7708
05:02:40,100 --> 05:02:42,100
portion of what you carry in

7709
05:02:42,100 --> 05:02:44,100
your head and what you carry to

7710
05:02:44,100 --> 05:02:45,100
bed.

7711
05:02:45,100 --> 05:02:47,100
what wakes you up in the middle

7712
05:02:47,100 --> 05:02:48,100
of the night.

7713
05:02:48,100 --> 05:02:50,100
yet you do it with a sincere and

7714
05:02:50,100 --> 05:02:51,100
complete commitment to our city.

7715
05:02:51,100 --> 05:02:54,100
I again will say what I said

7716
05:02:54,100 --> 05:02:57,601
about ms. Kisslan is it mark.

7717
05:02:58,100 --> 05:03:00,100
I'm sincerely blessed to work

7718
05:03:00,100 --> 05:03:02,100
along side you.

7719
05:03:02,100 --> 05:03:03,100
I thank you for your commitment

7720
05:03:03,100 --> 05:03:05,401
to the residents, businesses,

7721
05:03:06,100 --> 05:03:08,100
the visitors, the city,

7722
05:03:08,100 --> 05:03:09,100
commission, staff, everything

7723
05:03:09,100 --> 05:03:11,100
that you and your command staff

7724
05:03:11,100 --> 05:03:13,100
and every officer throughout the

7725
05:03:13,100 --> 05:03:15,100
department as well as our

7726
05:03:15,100 --> 05:03:17,100
civilian support do for our

7727
05:03:17,100 --> 05:03:18,100
community.

7728
05:03:18,100 --> 05:03:19,100
it's a credit to your

7729
05:03:19,100 --> 05:03:20,100
leadership.

7730
05:03:20,100 --> 05:03:21,100
thank you, sir.

7731
05:03:21,100 --> 05:03:23,100
>> thank you, very much mayor.

7732
05:03:23,100 --> 05:03:25,100
>> okay, cleave.

7733
05:03:25,100 --> 05:03:27,100
in preparation for your review

7734
05:03:27,100 --> 05:03:28,100
we had the opportunity to talk.

7735
05:03:28,100 --> 05:03:30,100
I reviewed your commission

7736
05:03:30,100 --> 05:03:31,100
review.

7737
05:03:31,100 --> 05:03:33,401
2021 attachment in the backup.

7738
05:03:34,100 --> 05:03:36,100
as well as many e-mails

7739
05:03:36,100 --> 05:03:37,100
throughout the year.

7740
05:03:37,100 --> 05:03:39,100
I find these documents clearly

7741
05:03:39,100 --> 05:03:41,401
identified and demonstrate your

7742
05:03:42,100 --> 05:03:43,100
significant achievements and

7743
05:03:43,100 --> 05:03:44,100
objectives.

7744
05:03:44,100 --> 05:03:46,100
with your decision making and

7745
05:03:46,100 --> 05:03:48,100
judgment I find you consistently

7746
05:03:48,100 --> 05:03:50,100
demonstrate quality of analysis

7747
05:03:50,100 --> 05:03:53,100
and judgment related to progress

7748
05:03:53,100 --> 05:03:56,100
and opportunities for the need

7749
05:03:56,100 --> 05:03:58,100
of changes in the sunrise police

7750
05:03:58,100 --> 05:03:59,100
department.

7751
05:03:59,100 --> 05:04:00,100
you focus on targeting crime

7752
05:04:00,100 --> 05:04:02,100
that impacts our quality of life

7753
05:04:02,100 --> 05:04:03,100
with significant crime

7754
05:04:03,100 --> 05:04:04,100
reduction.

7755
05:04:04,100 --> 05:04:06,100
your guidance is instrumental in

7756
05:04:06,100 --> 05:04:08,100
my decision making and the

7757
05:04:08,100 --> 05:04:10,100
success of our city and police

7758
05:04:10,100 --> 05:04:11,100
department.

7759
05:04:11,100 --> 05:04:13,100
with respect to your personnel

7760
05:04:13,100 --> 05:04:14,100
development.

7761
05:04:14,100 --> 05:04:15,100
I find your command staff and

7762
05:04:15,100 --> 05:04:17,100
organization not only the best

7763
05:04:17,100 --> 05:04:19,100
in broward county but I would

7764
05:04:19,100 --> 05:04:20,100
put you against anyone in

7765
05:04:20,100 --> 05:04:21,100
florida.

7766
05:04:21,100 --> 05:04:24,100
you recruit and retain a diverse

7767
05:04:24,100 --> 05:04:25,100
staff.

7768
05:04:25,100 --> 05:04:26,100
your goal to attract the cream

7769
05:04:26,100 --> 05:04:29,100
of the crop is admirable.

7770
05:04:29,100 --> 05:04:32,100
it reflects in your, throughout

7771
05:04:33,100 --> 05:04:34,100
your organization.

7772
05:04:34,100 --> 05:04:36,100
you have increased the diversity

7773
05:04:36,100 --> 05:04:39,100
in our patrol officers and

7774
05:04:39,100 --> 05:04:41,100
command with your appointments.

7775
05:04:41,100 --> 05:04:43,100
I love the fact that you take

7776
05:04:43,100 --> 05:04:45,100
the time to personally interview

7777
05:04:45,100 --> 05:04:47,100
and meet every new recruit and

7778
05:04:47,100 --> 05:04:48,100
officer.

7779
05:04:48,100 --> 05:04:49,100
I find that you establish and

7780
05:04:49,100 --> 05:04:51,401
lead an effective management

7781
05:04:52,100 --> 05:04:53,100
team.

7782
05:04:53,100 --> 05:04:54,100
work in collaboration of the

7783
05:04:54,100 --> 05:04:56,100
police unions.

7784
05:04:56,100 --> 05:04:57,100
your use of the officer of the

7785
05:04:57,100 --> 05:04:59,401
month and promotional ceremonies

7786
05:05:00,100 --> 05:05:03,100
allow the achievements of staff.

7787
05:05:04,100 --> 05:05:05,100
with respect to planning and

7788
05:05:05,100 --> 05:05:08,601
organizing I find you work well

7789
05:05:10,100 --> 05:05:11,100
with the commission and achieve

7790
05:05:11,100 --> 05:05:14,100
city mission goals and financial

7791
05:05:14,100 --> 05:05:15,100
viability.

7792
05:05:15,100 --> 05:05:16,100
I share the same vision of you.

7793
05:05:16,100 --> 05:05:18,100
transparent, service orientated,

7794
05:05:19,100 --> 05:05:21,100
community engaged police

7795
05:05:21,100 --> 05:05:22,100
department.

7796
05:05:22,100 --> 05:05:24,100
our department is guardians of

7797
05:05:24,100 --> 05:05:25,100
the neighborhood.

7798
05:05:25,100 --> 05:05:29,201
-- in awe of your commitment of

7799
05:05:38,100 --> 05:05:41,100
community based events, the back

7800
05:05:41,100 --> 05:05:43,100
to school roundup, the citizens

7801
05:05:43,100 --> 05:05:45,401
police academy, advance academy,

7802
05:05:47,100 --> 05:05:48,100
assault, your dedication to

7803
05:05:48,100 --> 05:05:50,401
public information officers at

7804
05:05:51,100 --> 05:05:52,100
community meetings.

7805
05:05:52,100 --> 05:05:54,100
the bike patrols where you make

7806
05:05:54,100 --> 05:05:57,100
officers get off the bikes, give

7807
05:05:57,100 --> 05:06:00,100
badges out to contact, citizen

7808
05:06:00,100 --> 05:06:02,100
contact.

7809
05:06:02,100 --> 05:06:06,100
ice cream truck, I mean, the sun

7810
05:06:06,100 --> 05:06:08,100
sentinel says it all.

7811
05:06:08,100 --> 05:06:11,100
your social media, guzman says

7812
05:06:14,100 --> 05:06:15,100
it's out there.

7813
05:06:15,100 --> 05:06:17,100
your engagement in the community

7814
05:06:17,100 --> 05:06:19,100
is second to none.

7815
05:06:19,100 --> 05:06:20,100
I appreciate that.

7816
05:06:20,100 --> 05:06:23,100
I appreciate having our sros,

7817
05:06:23,100 --> 05:06:24,100
your commitment to that. Making

7818
05:06:24,100 --> 05:06:26,100
sure the schools are safe.

7819
05:06:26,100 --> 05:06:29,601
making sure that bond with the

7820
05:06:31,100 --> 05:06:33,100
child starts young and caries on

7821
05:06:33,100 --> 05:06:34,100
throughout.

7822
05:06:34,100 --> 05:06:35,100
that's something the whole

7823
05:06:35,100 --> 05:06:37,100
nation needs to do not just here

7824
05:06:37,100 --> 05:06:39,100
in sunrise.

7825
05:06:39,100 --> 05:06:41,100
your inner personal skills I

7826
05:06:41,100 --> 05:06:44,601
find that you, you have built

7827
05:06:45,100 --> 05:06:47,100
and continue to build a

7828
05:06:47,100 --> 05:06:49,100
respective pro foil for the city

7829
05:06:49,100 --> 05:06:51,100
through engagement activities.

7830
05:06:52,100 --> 05:06:56,100
I find you work well with staff,

7831
05:06:56,100 --> 05:06:58,401
finance committee -- monitor

7832
05:06:59,100 --> 05:07:02,100
progress and initiate changes as

7833
05:07:03,100 --> 05:07:05,100
appropriate.

7834
05:07:06,100 --> 05:07:08,100
please d that you serve with the

7835
05:07:08,100 --> 05:07:10,100
broward county chief

7836
05:07:10,100 --> 05:07:11,100
association.

7837
05:07:11,100 --> 05:07:14,601
I am very pleased that you

7838
05:07:15,100 --> 05:07:17,100
actively listen to the officers

7839
05:07:17,100 --> 05:07:18,100
at the ground level when it

7840
05:07:18,100 --> 05:07:21,100
relates to any issues going on

7841
05:07:21,100 --> 05:07:23,100
throughout your organization.

7842
05:07:23,100 --> 05:07:26,100
chief, I get the calls, you keep

7843
05:07:26,100 --> 05:07:27,100
me fully informed.

7844
05:07:27,100 --> 05:07:29,100
sometimes it's two, three, four

7845
05:07:29,100 --> 05:07:30,100
calls a day.

7846
05:07:30,100 --> 05:07:32,100
you do keep me informed.

7847
05:07:32,100 --> 05:07:34,100
it's timely.

7848
05:07:36,100 --> 05:07:38,100
on all aspects of the

7849
05:07:38,100 --> 05:07:39,100
organization.

7850
05:07:39,100 --> 05:07:42,100
your weekly reports, I truly

7851
05:07:45,100 --> 05:07:48,100
believe that you represent the

7852
05:07:49,100 --> 05:07:51,100
department and city of sunrise

7853
05:07:51,100 --> 05:07:52,100
well.

7854
05:07:52,100 --> 05:07:53,100
not only in sunrise but

7855
05:07:53,100 --> 05:07:55,100
throughout broward county.

7856
05:07:55,100 --> 05:07:57,100
with other residents, government

7857
05:07:57,100 --> 05:07:59,100
agencies, elected officials and

7858
05:07:59,100 --> 05:08:01,100
the general public.

7859
05:08:01,100 --> 05:08:04,100
I will note you maintain your

7860
05:08:04,100 --> 05:08:06,100
department accreditation again.

7861
05:08:06,100 --> 05:08:08,100
I believe you share adequate

7862
05:08:08,100 --> 05:08:10,100
control over the funds and

7863
05:08:10,100 --> 05:08:12,100
include maintaining sound

7864
05:08:12,100 --> 05:08:13,100
financial practices.

7865
05:08:13,100 --> 05:08:15,401
you demonstrate quality of

7866
05:08:16,100 --> 05:08:19,100
analysis and judgment for our

7867
05:08:19,100 --> 05:08:20,100
community.

7868
05:08:20,100 --> 05:08:21,100
you're proactively reviewing and

7869
05:08:21,100 --> 05:08:23,100
willingness to make changes that

7870
05:08:23,100 --> 05:08:25,100
are needed to any department

7871
05:08:25,100 --> 05:08:27,100
policies and procedure.

7872
05:08:27,100 --> 05:08:29,100
as my colleagues have echoed

7873
05:08:29,100 --> 05:08:31,100
prior to me I find your

7874
05:08:31,100 --> 05:08:33,100
performance excellent.

7875
05:08:33,100 --> 05:08:34,100
thank you for making it easy to

7876
05:08:34,100 --> 05:08:36,401
give you a review.

7877
05:08:37,100 --> 05:08:38,100
keep up the good work.

7878
05:08:38,100 --> 05:08:40,100
I can't say enough good things

7879
05:08:40,100 --> 05:08:41,100
about the organization.

7880
05:08:41,100 --> 05:08:43,100
the men and women that look up

7881
05:08:43,100 --> 05:08:44,100
to you.

7882
05:08:44,100 --> 05:08:45,100
the public that looks to you.

7883
05:08:45,100 --> 05:08:46,100
you have support.

7884
05:08:46,100 --> 05:08:48,100
if you need license plate

7885
05:08:48,100 --> 05:08:50,100
readers I'm sure we will hear

7886
05:08:50,100 --> 05:08:51,100
about it.

7887
05:08:51,100 --> 05:08:52,100
as you know whatever you need to

7888
05:08:52,100 --> 05:08:55,601
make your job successful I will

7889
05:08:56,100 --> 05:08:58,100
make sure you get the funding.

7890
05:08:58,100 --> 05:08:59,100
alright.

7891
05:08:59,100 --> 05:09:00,100
chief, good job.

7892
05:09:00,100 --> 05:09:01,100
>> thank you, very much.

7893
05:09:01,100 --> 05:09:04,100
>> I have one -- go ahead,

7894
05:09:04,100 --> 05:09:05,100
chief.

7895
05:09:05,100 --> 05:09:06,100
I'm sorry, go ahead.

7896
05:09:06,100 --> 05:09:08,100
>> okay.

7897
05:09:08,100 --> 05:09:09,100
>> I wanted to thank the

7898
05:09:09,100 --> 05:09:10,100
commissioner.

7899
05:09:10,100 --> 05:09:13,100
>> so I neglected to mention one

7900
05:09:13,100 --> 05:09:14,100
thing.

7901
05:09:14,100 --> 05:09:17,100
I think I should specifically I

7902
05:09:17,100 --> 05:09:18,100
have been on the other side of

7903
05:09:18,100 --> 05:09:19,100
the issue.

7904
05:09:19,100 --> 05:09:20,100
you know obviously it's the

7905
05:09:20,100 --> 05:09:22,100
issue of diversity.

7906
05:09:22,100 --> 05:09:25,100
my colleague mentioned and I

7907
05:09:25,100 --> 05:09:26,100
didn't.

7908
05:09:26,100 --> 05:09:28,100
because I have often publicly

7909
05:09:28,100 --> 05:09:29,100
spoken about the lack of

7910
05:09:29,100 --> 05:09:31,100
diversity in the city.

7911
05:09:31,100 --> 05:09:34,100
I should commend you for your

7912
05:09:34,100 --> 05:09:37,100
efforts since you became chief

7913
05:09:37,100 --> 05:09:39,401
to without compromising the

7914
05:09:42,100 --> 05:09:44,100
quality of the candidates give a

7915
05:09:44,100 --> 05:09:47,100
more diverse view or look to

7916
05:09:47,100 --> 05:09:49,100
more diverse candidates.

7917
05:09:49,100 --> 05:09:51,100
that has been renexted in your

7918
05:09:51,100 --> 05:09:52,100
report to the increase of

7919
05:09:52,100 --> 05:09:54,100
diversity.

7920
05:09:54,100 --> 05:09:56,100
again it goes without saying

7921
05:09:56,100 --> 05:09:59,100
that for community as diverse as

7922
05:09:59,100 --> 05:10:02,100
sunrise that it's important that

7923
05:10:02,100 --> 05:10:06,201
men and women of the city who

7924
05:10:07,100 --> 05:10:08,100
are police officers are

7925
05:10:08,100 --> 05:10:10,401
reflective of the diverse

7926
05:10:11,100 --> 05:10:13,100
population which they police.

7927
05:10:13,100 --> 05:10:16,100
the children when they go to

7928
05:10:16,100 --> 05:10:19,100
events or when they look and see

7929
05:10:19,100 --> 05:10:21,100
a police officer they see

7930
05:10:21,100 --> 05:10:22,100
themselves in that police

7931
05:10:22,100 --> 05:10:23,100
officer.

7932
05:10:23,100 --> 05:10:25,100
they say I can be that too.

7933
05:10:25,100 --> 05:10:28,601
you know recently I read during

7934
05:10:29,100 --> 05:10:32,100
the olympics they talked about

7935
05:10:33,100 --> 05:10:34,100
the gymnasts.

7936
05:10:34,100 --> 05:10:36,100
how african-american females

7937
05:10:42,100 --> 05:10:44,100
over the last years have become

7938
05:10:44,100 --> 05:10:46,100
the forefront of american

7939
05:10:46,100 --> 05:10:48,100
gymnastic success.

7940
05:10:48,100 --> 05:10:50,100
a article I read, there was a

7941
05:10:50,100 --> 05:10:52,100
trainer that said, years ago

7942
05:10:52,100 --> 05:10:55,100
she -- there was none.

7943
05:10:57,100 --> 05:10:58,100
it was after the first person

7944
05:10:58,100 --> 05:11:00,100
that came out then

7945
05:11:00,100 --> 05:11:02,100
african-american young girls

7946
05:11:02,100 --> 05:11:04,100
could see themselves.

7947
05:11:07,100 --> 05:11:09,100
I can do gymnastics.

7948
05:11:09,100 --> 05:11:10,100
someone that looks like me was

7949
05:11:10,100 --> 05:11:12,100
successful at it.

7950
05:11:12,100 --> 05:11:14,100
so when we are, when our kids

7951
05:11:14,100 --> 05:11:16,100
are looking around and looking

7952
05:11:16,100 --> 05:11:20,201
at men and women in uniform in

7953
05:11:21,100 --> 05:11:23,100
fire, police or leadership rolls

7954
05:11:23,100 --> 05:11:25,100
they need to see themselves in

7955
05:11:25,100 --> 05:11:26,100
those.

7956
05:11:26,100 --> 05:11:29,601
so, I am grateful for your

7957
05:11:30,100 --> 05:11:32,100
taking that bull by the horn.

7958
05:11:32,100 --> 05:11:34,100
I can tell you I know it's not

7959
05:11:34,100 --> 05:11:37,100
always easy to push in that

7960
05:11:37,100 --> 05:11:38,100
direction.

7961
05:11:38,100 --> 05:11:40,100
you know you maybe the boss but

7962
05:11:40,100 --> 05:11:42,100
you do have a whole slew of

7963
05:11:42,100 --> 05:11:45,100
people that may have different

7964
05:11:45,100 --> 05:11:48,100
ideas about how this should be

7965
05:11:48,100 --> 05:11:49,100
done.

7966
05:11:49,100 --> 05:11:51,100
I commend you for doing that,

7967
05:11:51,100 --> 05:11:53,401
you know hiring quality

7968
05:11:54,100 --> 05:11:56,100
candidates too.

7969
05:11:56,100 --> 05:11:58,100
these are all largely

7970
05:11:58,100 --> 05:12:00,100
accomplished whether through

7971
05:12:00,100 --> 05:12:02,100
education, training, military

7972
05:12:02,100 --> 05:12:04,100
service or what not that only

7973
05:12:04,100 --> 05:12:06,100
has gone to strengthen the

7974
05:12:06,100 --> 05:12:09,100
department and make the out look

7975
05:12:09,100 --> 05:12:11,100
for future leadership even more

7976
05:12:11,100 --> 05:12:12,100
diverse.

7977
05:12:12,100 --> 05:12:15,601
I appreciate, I believe we had

7978
05:12:16,100 --> 05:12:18,100
the first african-american

7979
05:12:18,100 --> 05:12:19,100
major.

7980
05:12:19,100 --> 05:12:20,100
first african-american

7981
05:12:20,100 --> 05:12:21,100
lieutenant.

7982
05:12:21,100 --> 05:12:23,100
probably south.

7983
05:12:23,100 --> 05:12:27,100
I don't want to commit to that.

7984
05:12:27,100 --> 05:12:29,100
I don't remember if sergeant is

7985
05:12:29,100 --> 05:12:30,100
involved.

7986
05:12:30,100 --> 05:12:32,100
certainly under your leadership

7987
05:12:32,100 --> 05:12:34,100
you have brought more diversity

7988
05:12:34,100 --> 05:12:36,100
to the men and women on the road

7989
05:12:36,100 --> 05:12:37,100
and leadership.

7990
05:12:37,100 --> 05:12:40,100
I have often spoken about it

7991
05:12:40,100 --> 05:12:42,100
when it's not a favorable

7992
05:12:42,100 --> 05:12:44,100
comment I would be remiss if I

7993
05:12:44,100 --> 05:12:46,100
didn't also bring that up

7994
05:12:46,100 --> 05:12:47,100
tonight.

7995
05:12:47,100 --> 05:12:49,100
but you don't get to stop where

7996
05:12:49,100 --> 05:12:50,100
you are.

7997
05:12:50,100 --> 05:12:52,100
certainly I want to commend you

7998
05:12:52,100 --> 05:12:53,100
on that.

7999
05:12:53,100 --> 05:12:55,100
>> thank you.

8000
05:12:55,100 --> 05:12:56,100
>> any other comments?

8001
05:12:56,100 --> 05:12:59,100
so, pursuant to chief rosa's

8002
05:13:02,100 --> 05:13:03,100
employment contract it says

8003
05:13:03,100 --> 05:13:06,100
every give year the police

8004
05:13:06,100 --> 05:13:08,100
department maintains a law

8005
05:13:08,100 --> 05:13:09,100
enforcement certification from

8006
05:13:09,100 --> 05:13:11,100
certified accreditation agency

8007
05:13:13,100 --> 05:13:16,100
and receives a favorable review

8008
05:13:16,100 --> 05:13:19,100
the probably maybe eligible to

8009
05:13:20,100 --> 05:13:23,100
receive a merit increase of 5%.

8010
05:13:23,100 --> 05:13:25,100
I'm in favor of 2.5% we have

8011
05:13:25,100 --> 05:13:27,401
done so far consistently.

8012
05:13:28,100 --> 05:13:29,100
>> second.

8013
05:13:29,100 --> 05:13:30,100
>> everyone else in agreement.

8014
05:13:30,100 --> 05:13:32,100
>> yes.

8015
05:13:32,100 --> 05:13:33,100
>> mayor ryan.

8016
05:13:33,100 --> 05:13:34,100
>> I support.

8017
05:13:34,100 --> 05:13:36,100
>> congratulations, chief rosa.

8018
05:13:37,100 --> 05:13:38,100
>> thank you.

8019
05:13:38,100 --> 05:13:40,100
it was mentioned.

8020
05:13:40,100 --> 05:13:42,100
I'm blessed to work for this

8021
05:13:42,100 --> 05:13:43,100
commission, this city.

8022
05:13:43,100 --> 05:13:45,100
I'm blessed to have the staff I

8023
05:13:45,100 --> 05:13:47,100
have and the way they serve the

8024
05:13:47,100 --> 05:13:48,100
community.

8025
05:13:48,100 --> 05:13:49,100
so thank you, very much.

8026
05:13:49,100 --> 05:13:50,100
>> good job, chief.

8027
05:13:50,100 --> 05:13:51,100
>> thank you.

8028
05:13:51,100 --> 05:13:52,100
>> alright.

8029
05:13:52,100 --> 05:13:55,601
>> bravo, do you need to type

8030
05:13:59,100 --> 05:14:00,100
over there.

8031
05:14:00,100 --> 05:14:02,100
we can get you a runner on the

8032
05:14:02,100 --> 05:14:04,100
base.

8033
05:14:04,100 --> 05:14:07,100
lordus you want to read for her.

8034
05:14:07,100 --> 05:14:08,100
I'm just kidding.

8035
05:14:08,100 --> 05:14:10,100
>> I'm fine --

8036
05:14:11,100 --> 05:14:12,100
>> yes.

8037
05:14:12,100 --> 05:14:14,100
>> okay.

8038
05:14:14,100 --> 05:14:15,100
17g.

8039
05:14:15,100 --> 05:14:17,100
city clerk annual review.

8040
05:14:17,100 --> 05:14:18,100
commission discussion and or

8041
05:14:18,100 --> 05:14:20,100
action regarding the annual

8042
05:14:20,100 --> 05:14:23,100
review and evaluation of city

8043
05:14:23,100 --> 05:14:24,100
clerk.

8044
05:14:24,100 --> 05:14:26,401
felicia bravo city clerk.

8045
05:14:33,100 --> 05:14:34,100
>> good evening.

8046
05:14:34,100 --> 05:14:36,100
it's been many years since I

8047
05:14:36,100 --> 05:14:38,100
have been to the podium to give

8048
05:14:38,100 --> 05:14:39,100
a presentation.

8049
05:14:39,100 --> 05:14:41,100
I gave you all my powerpoint

8050
05:14:41,100 --> 05:14:42,100
presentation.

8051
05:14:42,100 --> 05:14:44,100
my powerpoint presentation

8052
05:14:44,100 --> 05:14:45,100
describes some of my

8053
05:14:45,100 --> 05:14:46,100
accomplishments for the year and

8054
05:14:46,100 --> 05:14:48,100
some of the duties of the office

8055
05:14:48,100 --> 05:14:51,100
to refamiliarize you with that.

8056
05:14:51,100 --> 05:14:54,100
I sent you the accomplishments

8057
05:14:57,100 --> 05:15:00,100
we had this year from october to

8058
05:15:00,100 --> 05:15:01,100
july.

8059
05:15:01,100 --> 05:15:03,100
would like to point out a couple

8060
05:15:03,100 --> 05:15:04,100
of items.

8061
05:15:04,100 --> 05:15:05,100
the election we had in

8062
05:15:05,100 --> 05:15:07,100
november 2020, that was kind of

8063
05:15:07,100 --> 05:15:08,100
interesting because we probably

8064
05:15:08,100 --> 05:15:10,100
had more different election

8065
05:15:10,100 --> 05:15:13,100
items on the 2020 election, for

8066
05:15:14,100 --> 05:15:17,100
that cycle then we have had

8067
05:15:17,100 --> 05:15:18,100
since I have been here.

8068
05:15:18,100 --> 05:15:19,100
a general election, special

8069
05:15:19,100 --> 05:15:22,601
election, we had ' referendum on

8070
05:15:25,100 --> 05:15:27,100
three separate items.

8071
05:15:28,100 --> 05:15:30,100
also this year we had more board

8072
05:15:30,100 --> 05:15:32,100
applications than we have had in

8073
05:15:32,100 --> 05:15:33,100
the past.

8074
05:15:33,100 --> 05:15:34,100
I think for the first time we

8075
05:15:34,100 --> 05:15:37,100
had more board applications, not

8076
05:15:37,100 --> 05:15:38,100
just a little but tremendous

8077
05:15:38,100 --> 05:15:40,100
amount, then ever.

8078
05:15:40,100 --> 05:15:42,100
170 applications.

8079
05:15:42,100 --> 05:15:44,100
that was incredible.

8080
05:15:44,100 --> 05:15:46,401
it covered 129 positions, that

8081
05:15:49,100 --> 05:15:50,100
was great.

8082
05:15:50,100 --> 05:15:52,100
the best part is we brought in

8083
05:15:52,100 --> 05:15:54,100
38 new people, new appointees

8084
05:15:54,100 --> 05:15:56,100
into the fold.

8085
05:15:56,100 --> 05:15:57,100
just to give you some

8086
05:15:57,100 --> 05:15:59,100
perspective on that, when I

8087
05:15:59,100 --> 05:16:02,100
started here we had 6 boards.

8088
05:16:02,100 --> 05:16:04,100
five of those boards would of

8089
05:16:04,100 --> 05:16:06,100
had completely new people on it

8090
05:16:06,100 --> 05:16:08,100
with three extras to go.

8091
05:16:08,100 --> 05:16:10,100
that is how many new people we

8092
05:16:10,100 --> 05:16:11,100
brought in.

8093
05:16:11,100 --> 05:16:13,100
I don't take full credit for

8094
05:16:13,100 --> 05:16:14,100
that. I think some of those

8095
05:16:14,100 --> 05:16:16,401
folks came under assistant

8096
05:16:17,100 --> 05:16:19,401
deputy mayor guzman's coat

8097
05:16:20,100 --> 05:16:21,100
tails.

8098
05:16:21,100 --> 05:16:23,100
when we have a new elected

8099
05:16:23,100 --> 05:16:24,100
official they tend to bring in

8100
05:16:24,100 --> 05:16:26,100
their own people.

8101
05:16:27,100 --> 05:16:28,100
that was great.

8102
05:16:28,100 --> 05:16:30,401
there was great diversity.

8103
05:16:31,100 --> 05:16:32,100
younger people, different

8104
05:16:32,100 --> 05:16:33,100
backgrounds.

8105
05:16:33,100 --> 05:16:35,401
anyways that's my presentation.

8106
05:16:36,100 --> 05:16:38,100
I know it's late.

8107
05:16:38,100 --> 05:16:40,100
thank you.

8108
05:16:40,100 --> 05:16:41,100
it's a pleasure to work here.

8109
05:16:41,100 --> 05:16:43,100
>> alright.

8110
05:16:43,100 --> 05:16:45,100
commissioner scuotto.

8111
05:16:45,100 --> 05:16:47,100
>> next time we go by seniority

8112
05:16:47,100 --> 05:16:48,100
and time.

8113
05:16:48,100 --> 05:16:51,601
would you of been up first.

8114
05:16:52,100 --> 05:16:54,100
so how many years have you been

8115
05:16:54,100 --> 05:16:56,401
with the city now?

8116
05:16:58,100 --> 05:16:59,100
>> 20.

8117
05:16:59,100 --> 05:17:01,100
in february, 21 years.

8118
05:17:01,100 --> 05:17:04,100
>> so 21 years ago I sat up if

8119
05:17:04,100 --> 05:17:05,100
my office.

8120
05:17:05,100 --> 05:17:09,100
at the time to pick the city

8121
05:17:09,100 --> 05:17:11,100
clerk they made us sit in our

8122
05:17:11,100 --> 05:17:14,601
office and then all of the

8123
05:17:15,100 --> 05:17:17,100
people apply for the city clerk

8124
05:17:17,100 --> 05:17:19,100
job would come to our office.

8125
05:17:19,100 --> 05:17:23,201
so the joke was when I picked

8126
05:17:31,100 --> 05:17:35,201
felicia I said I picked the old

8127
05:17:37,100 --> 05:17:38,100
lady.

8128
05:17:38,100 --> 05:17:40,100
she said I'm younger than you.

8129
05:17:40,100 --> 05:17:41,100
it was always a joke.

8130
05:17:41,100 --> 05:17:42,100
>> now it's true.

8131
05:17:42,100 --> 05:17:45,601
>> it was like our joke from

8132
05:17:46,100 --> 05:17:48,100
back then.

8133
05:17:48,100 --> 05:17:51,100
you know like I say being up

8134
05:17:51,100 --> 05:17:53,100
here such a long time you get to

8135
05:17:53,100 --> 05:17:56,100
know a lot of your employees

8136
05:17:56,100 --> 05:17:58,100
poor a long period of time.

8137
05:17:58,100 --> 05:17:59,100
you get to know their families

8138
05:17:59,100 --> 05:18:01,100
and what not.

8139
05:18:01,100 --> 05:18:04,601
you know it's just, you build

8140
05:18:05,100 --> 05:18:07,401
those relationships with not

8141
05:18:09,100 --> 05:18:11,100
just employees but when we have

8142
05:18:11,100 --> 05:18:13,100
the picnics or we use to, you

8143
05:18:13,100 --> 05:18:16,601
know have the dinners that we

8144
05:18:17,100 --> 05:18:18,100
have.

8145
05:18:18,100 --> 05:18:20,100
there is inter action and we get

8146
05:18:20,100 --> 05:18:22,100
to see the employees with their

8147
05:18:22,100 --> 05:18:24,100
families or we get to see the

8148
05:18:24,100 --> 05:18:26,100
employees with their workers.

8149
05:18:26,100 --> 05:18:27,100
on a different way and a

8150
05:18:27,100 --> 05:18:29,100
different style.

8151
05:18:29,100 --> 05:18:32,100
I say that because I have never

8152
05:18:32,100 --> 05:18:34,100
seen you make a presentation

8153
05:18:34,100 --> 05:18:37,601
before until two weeks ago at

8154
05:18:41,100 --> 05:18:43,100
the public safety building.

8155
05:18:43,100 --> 05:18:45,100
she did a full report.

8156
05:18:45,100 --> 05:18:48,601
I never really seen felicia go

8157
05:18:49,100 --> 05:18:51,100
into so much detail about her

8158
05:18:51,100 --> 05:18:52,100
job.

8159
05:18:52,100 --> 05:18:56,201
I say this because she says this

8160
05:18:59,100 --> 05:19:00,100
is how she started off.

8161
05:19:00,100 --> 05:19:02,100
I have to say this.

8162
05:19:02,100 --> 05:19:04,100
you're a rock star in my family

8163
05:19:04,100 --> 05:19:05,100
now.

8164
05:19:05,100 --> 05:19:06,100
my kids.

8165
05:19:06,100 --> 05:19:07,100
I tell them.

8166
05:19:07,100 --> 05:19:09,100
they didn't believe me.

8167
05:19:09,100 --> 05:19:10,100
my daughter.

8168
05:19:10,100 --> 05:19:14,100
she says to the people as the

8169
05:19:14,100 --> 05:19:17,100
leadership academy, I am felicia

8170
05:19:19,100 --> 05:19:22,100
bravo the city of clerk of

8171
05:19:22,100 --> 05:19:23,100
sunrise.

8172
05:19:23,100 --> 05:19:25,100
she was like do you know loki.

8173
05:19:25,100 --> 05:19:28,100
I was like, what did she say.

8174
05:19:28,100 --> 05:19:30,401
loki is the marvel.

8175
05:19:32,100 --> 05:19:35,100
she is relating to the residents

8176
05:19:35,100 --> 05:19:38,100
to say loki and the thing, there

8177
05:19:38,100 --> 05:19:40,100
is a lady who takes the minutes.

8178
05:19:40,100 --> 05:19:43,100
her name is ms. Minutes.

8179
05:19:43,100 --> 05:19:45,100
she went into this whole thing.

8180
05:19:45,100 --> 05:19:47,100
when I went home to tell my

8181
05:19:47,100 --> 05:19:48,100
kids.

8182
05:19:48,100 --> 05:19:51,601
I was telling them about going

8183
05:19:55,100 --> 05:19:58,100
to the city and felicia spoke.

8184
05:19:58,100 --> 05:20:00,100
my daughter was like, my god.

8185
05:20:00,100 --> 05:20:03,100
I say that because sometimes

8186
05:20:03,100 --> 05:20:05,100
people don't realize what you do

8187
05:20:05,100 --> 05:20:06,100
in your job.

8188
05:20:06,100 --> 05:20:08,100
when you went up there if you

8189
05:20:08,100 --> 05:20:11,100
didn't try to relate to people

8190
05:20:11,100 --> 05:20:13,401
sometimes they wouldn't really

8191
05:20:15,100 --> 05:20:16,100
know.

8192
05:20:16,100 --> 05:20:19,601
even when I'm sitting there and

8193
05:20:22,100 --> 05:20:23,100
you explain everything.

8194
05:20:23,100 --> 05:20:25,100
the background checks and

8195
05:20:25,100 --> 05:20:28,100
everything, people running for a

8196
05:20:28,100 --> 05:20:29,100
board, applications, someone

8197
05:20:29,100 --> 05:20:31,100
wanting to buy a home.

8198
05:20:31,100 --> 05:20:34,100
you went into so much detail of

8199
05:20:34,100 --> 05:20:36,100
what it is that your department

8200
05:20:36,100 --> 05:20:37,100
really does.

8201
05:20:37,100 --> 05:20:41,100
not that you are just a cost to

8202
05:20:41,100 --> 05:20:44,100
the city commission and we file

8203
05:20:44,100 --> 05:20:46,401
our monthly reports, campaign

8204
05:20:49,100 --> 05:20:51,100
report or office account or

8205
05:20:51,100 --> 05:20:52,100
whatever it is.

8206
05:20:52,100 --> 05:20:53,100
you're another department that

8207
05:20:53,100 --> 05:20:56,100
is involved pretty much with

8208
05:20:56,100 --> 05:20:57,100
everyone.

8209
05:20:57,100 --> 05:21:01,201
then even when we had a couple

8210
05:21:02,100 --> 05:21:05,100
of meetings ago we never really

8211
05:21:05,100 --> 05:21:06,100
had an opportunity to speak to

8212
05:21:06,100 --> 05:21:08,401
the supervisor of elections.

8213
05:21:10,100 --> 05:21:12,100
we had him here that day and all

8214
05:21:12,100 --> 05:21:14,100
of the questions that we pretty

8215
05:21:14,100 --> 05:21:17,100
much hit him with and pounded

8216
05:21:17,100 --> 05:21:21,100
him with he didn't even know the

8217
05:21:21,100 --> 05:21:23,401
answers to basic questions.

8218
05:21:25,100 --> 05:21:27,100
I'm not faulting him.

8219
05:21:27,100 --> 05:21:28,100
he was knew.

8220
05:21:28,100 --> 05:21:30,100
I'm saying is we don't realize

8221
05:21:30,100 --> 05:21:33,100
when we have long term

8222
05:21:38,100 --> 05:21:40,401
institutional employees in the

8223
05:21:42,100 --> 05:21:44,100
city how much it helps everyone

8224
05:21:44,100 --> 05:21:45,100
else.

8225
05:21:45,100 --> 05:21:47,100
it really does.

8226
05:21:48,100 --> 05:21:50,100
douglas I get a kick out of it

8227
05:21:50,100 --> 05:21:52,100
because when sometimes I get to

8228
05:21:52,100 --> 05:21:53,100
speak or whatever.

8229
05:21:53,100 --> 05:21:55,100
then you said the historian.

8230
05:21:55,100 --> 05:21:58,100
I take that as a compliment

8231
05:21:58,100 --> 05:21:59,100
because --

8232
05:21:59,100 --> 05:22:00,100
>> it is.

8233
05:22:00,100 --> 05:22:02,100
>> what I'm saying is when you

8234
05:22:02,100 --> 05:22:04,100
say that some of the people may

8235
05:22:04,100 --> 05:22:07,100
not realize what you're saying.

8236
05:22:08,100 --> 05:22:11,100
she has been there for 20 years.

8237
05:22:11,100 --> 05:22:13,100
you know what I'm saying.

8238
05:22:13,100 --> 05:22:16,100
I will say for another for

8239
05:22:16,100 --> 05:22:17,100
instance.

8240
05:22:17,100 --> 05:22:19,100
one of her employees because she

8241
05:22:19,100 --> 05:22:21,100
didn't have a college degree was

8242
05:22:21,100 --> 05:22:25,201
not able to move up, forget how

8243
05:22:26,100 --> 05:22:28,100
many years in the city.

8244
05:22:28,100 --> 05:22:31,100
just because you don't have the

8245
05:22:31,100 --> 05:22:32,100
education for something but you

8246
05:22:32,100 --> 05:22:34,100
have that institutional

8247
05:22:34,100 --> 05:22:37,100
knowledge to me sometimes it's

8248
05:22:37,100 --> 05:22:40,100
worth more than the --

8249
05:22:41,100 --> 05:22:43,100
(lost audio)

8250
05:22:47,100 --> 05:22:50,601
can mean a lot of different

8251
05:22:57,100 --> 05:22:58,100
things.

8252
05:22:58,100 --> 05:22:59,100
it doesn't have to be religion,

8253
05:22:59,100 --> 05:23:01,100
color, it doesn't have to be

8254
05:23:01,100 --> 05:23:03,100
anything.

8255
05:23:03,100 --> 05:23:05,100
it has to be, could be just

8256
05:23:05,100 --> 05:23:08,100
because I don't have a degree

8257
05:23:08,100 --> 05:23:10,100
yet I have done this job for 20

8258
05:23:10,100 --> 05:23:11,100
years.

8259
05:23:11,100 --> 05:23:12,100
you're going to tell me I can't

8260
05:23:12,100 --> 05:23:13,100
move up.

8261
05:23:13,100 --> 05:23:16,100
I'm just saying so you were

8262
05:23:16,100 --> 05:23:18,100
there all the time dealing with

8263
05:23:18,100 --> 05:23:19,100
that.

8264
05:23:19,100 --> 05:23:20,100
knowing that you had someone who

8265
05:23:20,100 --> 05:23:23,100
was eligible and voiced your

8266
05:23:23,100 --> 05:23:24,100
opinions about it.

8267
05:23:24,100 --> 05:23:26,100
that means a lot for the person

8268
05:23:26,100 --> 05:23:28,100
sticking up for their employees.

8269
05:23:28,100 --> 05:23:31,601
so, like I say that presentation

8270
05:23:33,100 --> 05:23:35,100
really put it to what it is that

8271
05:23:35,100 --> 05:23:39,100
you really do and how a wide

8272
05:23:39,100 --> 05:23:40,100
variety it is.

8273
05:23:40,100 --> 05:23:42,100
it's not just like I need to get

8274
05:23:42,100 --> 05:23:44,100
this from that.

8275
05:23:44,100 --> 05:23:47,100
it's information that you know a

8276
05:23:47,100 --> 05:23:48,100
department head may need from

8277
05:23:48,100 --> 05:23:50,100
something or someone.

8278
05:23:51,100 --> 05:23:54,100
we have ten thousand boxes

8279
05:23:54,100 --> 05:23:57,100
stored in storage right now.

8280
05:23:57,100 --> 05:23:58,100
because that's how much we have

8281
05:23:58,100 --> 05:24:01,100
accumulated in paper rather than

8282
05:24:03,100 --> 05:24:05,100
with electronic.

8283
05:24:05,100 --> 05:24:08,100
so, you know you have a lot on

8284
05:24:08,100 --> 05:24:09,100
your plate.

8285
05:24:09,100 --> 05:24:12,601
like you said for this election,

8286
05:24:13,100 --> 05:24:15,100
when we use to do the elections

8287
05:24:15,100 --> 05:24:17,100
in march that was just what it

8288
05:24:17,100 --> 05:24:18,100
was.

8289
05:24:18,100 --> 05:24:20,100
all cities did their elections

8290
05:24:20,100 --> 05:24:21,100
in march.

8291
05:24:21,100 --> 05:24:23,100
that was just what it was.

8292
05:24:23,100 --> 05:24:24,100
because the general elections

8293
05:24:24,100 --> 05:24:27,100
were for governor and president

8294
05:24:28,100 --> 05:24:29,100
and stuff.

8295
05:24:29,100 --> 05:24:32,100
then the march elections were

8296
05:24:33,100 --> 05:24:34,100
specifically for the

8297
05:24:34,100 --> 05:24:36,100
municipalities.

8298
05:24:36,100 --> 05:24:37,100
then because of money and you

8299
05:24:37,100 --> 05:24:39,100
said we would be able to save

8300
05:24:39,100 --> 05:24:40,100
money.

8301
05:24:40,100 --> 05:24:42,100
then when we asked that

8302
05:24:42,100 --> 05:24:43,100
gentleman that day it was

8303
05:24:43,100 --> 05:24:44,100
something totally different.

8304
05:24:44,100 --> 05:24:48,201
it was good you explained it to

8305
05:24:50,100 --> 05:24:52,100
us in a way someone without the

8306
05:24:52,100 --> 05:24:54,100
institutional knowledge that you

8307
05:24:54,100 --> 05:24:57,100
have would have been an easy

8308
05:24:57,100 --> 05:24:58,100
explanation for you than for

8309
05:24:58,100 --> 05:24:59,100
him.

8310
05:24:59,100 --> 05:25:02,100
I applaud everything that you do

8311
05:25:02,100 --> 05:25:04,100
in your small department.

8312
05:25:04,100 --> 05:25:06,100
you have a limited amount of

8313
05:25:06,100 --> 05:25:07,100
people.

8314
05:25:07,100 --> 05:25:10,100
you know you have done a great

8315
05:25:10,100 --> 05:25:11,100
job with the city.

8316
05:25:11,100 --> 05:25:13,100
I continue to wish you success

8317
05:25:13,100 --> 05:25:15,100
and give you a favorable review.

8318
05:25:15,100 --> 05:25:16,100
>> thank you.

8319
05:25:16,100 --> 05:25:17,100
>> you're welcome.

8320
05:25:17,100 --> 05:25:18,100
>> commissioner douglas.

8321
05:25:18,100 --> 05:25:20,100
>> yes.

8322
05:25:20,100 --> 05:25:23,601
madam clerk, you know in terms

8323
05:25:25,100 --> 05:25:29,100
of those of us who have served

8324
05:25:29,100 --> 05:25:33,201
on boards or now elected we have

8325
05:25:34,100 --> 05:25:35,100
all had to work with your

8326
05:25:35,100 --> 05:25:39,100
office, in fact to guide us on

8327
05:25:39,100 --> 05:25:40,100
how to get through the processes

8328
05:25:40,100 --> 05:25:43,100
whether it's you know giving us

8329
05:25:43,100 --> 05:25:45,100
election packets or qualifying

8330
05:25:45,100 --> 05:25:47,100
us or background checks and so

8331
05:25:47,100 --> 05:25:49,100
on, so forth.

8332
05:25:49,100 --> 05:25:51,100
I spoke earlier about miss

8333
05:25:51,100 --> 05:25:53,100
kisslan's monthly report.

8334
05:25:54,100 --> 05:25:58,100
that sort of helps me to see

8335
05:25:58,100 --> 05:25:59,100
what is going on.

8336
05:25:59,100 --> 05:26:02,100
those prr responses are another

8337
05:26:04,100 --> 05:26:08,100
set of reports that I never miss

8338
05:26:08,100 --> 05:26:09,100
going through.

8339
05:26:09,100 --> 05:26:10,100
you can kind of see some things

8340
05:26:10,100 --> 05:26:12,100
that are going on.

8341
05:26:12,100 --> 05:26:14,100
people are asking for things.

8342
05:26:14,100 --> 05:26:18,100
they go let me see, why ask for

8343
05:26:18,100 --> 05:26:19,100
that.

8344
05:26:19,100 --> 05:26:22,100
that's another out of your

8345
05:26:26,100 --> 05:26:27,100
office.

8346
05:26:27,100 --> 05:26:29,100
the florida law, florida has a

8347
05:26:29,100 --> 05:26:32,100
robust public law resulting in

8348
05:26:32,100 --> 05:26:34,100
many people being sued for

8349
05:26:34,100 --> 05:26:37,100
failure of timely response to, I

8350
05:26:37,100 --> 05:26:39,100
have never seen that we have

8351
05:26:39,100 --> 05:26:42,100
really had a challenge with

8352
05:26:42,100 --> 05:26:43,100
that.

8353
05:26:43,100 --> 05:26:45,100
whether it's asking the police

8354
05:26:45,100 --> 05:26:47,100
because it's within their

8355
05:26:47,100 --> 05:26:49,100
preview or any other department

8356
05:26:49,100 --> 05:26:51,100
to provide you with the

8357
05:26:51,100 --> 05:26:54,100
necessary -- so you can fulfill

8358
05:26:54,100 --> 05:26:55,100
the requirements of the law.

8359
05:26:55,100 --> 05:26:57,100
you work in that regard.

8360
05:26:57,100 --> 05:27:00,601
you, you help remind us about

8361
05:27:02,100 --> 05:27:03,100
the various reporting

8362
05:27:03,100 --> 05:27:04,100
requirements.

8363
05:27:04,100 --> 05:27:06,100
various training requirements

8364
05:27:06,100 --> 05:27:08,100
keeping up with the legal

8365
05:27:08,100 --> 05:27:09,100
obligation.

8366
05:27:09,100 --> 05:27:10,100
so when the commission decided

8367
05:27:10,100 --> 05:27:13,100
that we should recognize or

8368
05:27:14,100 --> 05:27:16,100
advisory board members with a

8369
05:27:16,100 --> 05:27:18,401
certificate of appreciation you

8370
05:27:21,100 --> 05:27:24,100
got designs done and out as

8371
05:27:24,100 --> 05:27:25,100
quickly as possible when they

8372
05:27:25,100 --> 05:27:27,100
were finalized.

8373
05:27:27,100 --> 05:27:30,100
your office is kind of like the

8374
05:27:30,100 --> 05:27:32,100
submarine service in the

8375
05:27:32,100 --> 05:27:33,100
military.

8376
05:27:33,100 --> 05:27:35,100
the quiet service.

8377
05:27:35,100 --> 05:27:38,100
which is so critical in holding

8378
05:27:38,100 --> 05:27:39,100
it together.

8379
05:27:39,100 --> 05:27:40,100
being the secretary to the

8380
05:27:40,100 --> 05:27:42,100
commission as it was pointed

8381
05:27:42,100 --> 05:27:43,100
out.

8382
05:27:43,100 --> 05:27:44,100
being the chief elections

8383
05:27:44,100 --> 05:27:45,100
officer.

8384
05:27:45,100 --> 05:27:48,601
being the custodian of the seal

8385
05:27:49,100 --> 05:27:50,100
so to speak.

8386
05:27:50,100 --> 05:27:52,100
those are very very important

8387
05:27:52,100 --> 05:27:54,100
rolls in governance.

8388
05:27:54,100 --> 05:27:56,100
you know I have sought your

8389
05:27:56,100 --> 05:27:59,601
advice probably from the time I

8390
05:28:00,100 --> 05:28:02,100
sought office throughout,

8391
05:28:02,100 --> 05:28:05,100
especially in the early years.

8392
05:28:05,100 --> 05:28:09,201
so, in terms of your roll as

8393
05:28:10,100 --> 05:28:12,100
clerk and how you have managed

8394
05:28:12,100 --> 05:28:14,100
the roll.

8395
05:28:14,100 --> 05:28:17,601
I can not say anything negative.

8396
05:28:19,100 --> 05:28:22,100
you know if I have a question

8397
05:28:22,100 --> 05:28:25,100
you either find the answer or

8398
05:28:25,100 --> 05:28:27,100
you know, you give the answer

8399
05:28:27,100 --> 05:28:29,100
right away or find the answer.

8400
05:28:29,100 --> 05:28:31,100
one way or another I will get an

8401
05:28:31,100 --> 05:28:32,100
answer.

8402
05:28:32,100 --> 05:28:34,100
I have often not had to be with

8403
05:28:34,100 --> 05:28:37,100
your office as much as probably

8404
05:28:37,100 --> 05:28:39,100
say the city manager or attorney

8405
05:28:39,100 --> 05:28:40,100
or whatever.

8406
05:28:40,100 --> 05:28:42,100
you keep your office greased and

8407
05:28:42,100 --> 05:28:43,100
running.

8408
05:28:43,100 --> 05:28:44,100
you know when you have

8409
05:28:44,100 --> 05:28:46,100
challenges they have been

8410
05:28:46,100 --> 05:28:47,100
resolved.

8411
05:28:47,100 --> 05:28:50,100
I truly an appreciative of your

8412
05:28:50,100 --> 05:28:52,401
work and the city.

8413
05:28:53,100 --> 05:28:55,401
you cheerly have institutional

8414
05:28:56,100 --> 05:28:58,401
knowledge and knowledge about

8415
05:28:59,100 --> 05:29:02,100
your roll and function as a city

8416
05:29:02,100 --> 05:29:03,100
clerk.

8417
05:29:03,100 --> 05:29:05,401
certainly recently when the

8418
05:29:06,100 --> 05:29:08,100
issue came up as my colleague

8419
05:29:08,100 --> 05:29:10,401
pointed out regarding the

8420
05:29:11,100 --> 05:29:13,401
historical framework for moving

8421
05:29:14,100 --> 05:29:16,100
the elections and basis that was

8422
05:29:16,100 --> 05:29:19,100
grounded in cost and how much

8423
05:29:19,100 --> 05:29:21,100
previous elections have cost and

8424
05:29:21,100 --> 05:29:23,100
all of the different things that

8425
05:29:23,100 --> 05:29:26,601
helped to prepare us to sandbag

8426
05:29:28,100 --> 05:29:30,401
the new elections officer.

8427
05:29:31,100 --> 05:29:35,100
you have, you have done a great

8428
05:29:35,100 --> 05:29:37,100
service to the city.

8429
05:29:37,100 --> 05:29:39,100
your years here now.

8430
05:29:39,100 --> 05:29:43,100
in the last year even while we

8431
05:29:43,100 --> 05:29:45,100
had covid has to be mentioned.

8432
05:29:45,100 --> 05:29:46,100
we had covid.

8433
05:29:46,100 --> 05:29:49,601
we did not diverse ourselves of

8434
05:29:50,100 --> 05:29:52,100
our responsibility.

8435
05:29:53,100 --> 05:29:56,100
we still had to respond.

8436
05:29:56,100 --> 05:29:59,601
if there was an election taking

8437
05:30:00,100 --> 05:30:03,100
place in the mist of covid we

8438
05:30:03,100 --> 05:30:05,100
had to respond.

8439
05:30:05,100 --> 05:30:06,100
call buying people.

8440
05:30:06,100 --> 05:30:08,100
however it needed to get done,

8441
05:30:08,100 --> 05:30:10,100
we were able to get it done.

8442
05:30:10,100 --> 05:30:13,100
you have a pretty skeletal

8443
05:30:14,100 --> 05:30:15,100
staff.

8444
05:30:15,100 --> 05:30:17,100
a staff that knows their jobs.

8445
05:30:17,100 --> 05:30:20,100
and are able to carry it out in

8446
05:30:20,100 --> 05:30:22,100
an efficient way.

8447
05:30:22,100 --> 05:30:24,100
obviously that is testament to

8448
05:30:24,100 --> 05:30:26,100
your leadership.

8449
05:30:26,100 --> 05:30:27,100
soy want to commend you on the

8450
05:30:27,100 --> 05:30:30,601
work that you have been doing.

8451
05:30:33,100 --> 05:30:35,100
I certainly find your job

8452
05:30:35,100 --> 05:30:36,100
favorable.

8453
05:30:36,100 --> 05:30:38,100
>> assistant deputy mayor

8454
05:30:38,100 --> 05:30:39,100
guzman.

8455
05:30:39,100 --> 05:30:41,100
>> hello I will briefly discuss

8456
05:30:41,100 --> 05:30:44,100
my first interaction with you

8457
05:30:44,100 --> 05:30:46,100
and then get knot part where I

8458
05:30:46,100 --> 05:30:48,401
became assistant deputy mayor.

8459
05:30:50,100 --> 05:30:52,100
I just, I want to point this out

8460
05:30:52,100 --> 05:30:54,100
and I mean this in the nicest

8461
05:30:54,100 --> 05:30:55,100
way.

8462
05:30:55,100 --> 05:30:56,100
I don't want you to take this

8463
05:30:56,100 --> 05:30:57,100
wrong.

8464
05:30:57,100 --> 05:30:58,100
I want to be open with you, how

8465
05:30:58,100 --> 05:31:00,100
I felt.

8466
05:31:00,100 --> 05:31:03,100
as a candidate coming in,

8467
05:31:04,100 --> 05:31:06,100
initially I didn't foal

8468
05:31:06,100 --> 05:31:08,100
welcomed.

8469
05:31:10,100 --> 05:31:14,801
I really felt at if -- I don't

8470
05:31:16,100 --> 05:31:17,100
know.

8471
05:31:17,100 --> 05:31:21,201
I don't want to say the wrong

8472
05:31:22,100 --> 05:31:23,100
thing.

8473
05:31:23,100 --> 05:31:26,100
my initial inter action I was

8474
05:31:26,100 --> 05:31:28,100
disappointed woman to woman.

8475
05:31:28,100 --> 05:31:30,100
I don't know if I was young or

8476
05:31:30,100 --> 05:31:31,100
you didn't know who I was.

8477
05:31:31,100 --> 05:31:35,100
I totally get it I tempt I had

8478
05:31:35,100 --> 05:31:36,100
questions and was not

8479
05:31:36,100 --> 05:31:38,100
comfortable asking you them

8480
05:31:38,100 --> 05:31:40,100
initially when I was running for

8481
05:31:40,100 --> 05:31:42,100
my campaign.

8482
05:31:42,100 --> 05:31:44,100
up until I was the favorable

8483
05:31:44,100 --> 05:31:46,100
candidate then I felt you were

8484
05:31:46,100 --> 05:31:48,100
more receptive and more helpful

8485
05:31:48,100 --> 05:31:49,100
with me.

8486
05:31:49,100 --> 05:31:51,100
I appreciate that, at the end.

8487
05:31:51,100 --> 05:31:53,100
now being in the position I am

8488
05:31:53,100 --> 05:31:56,100
in, you know your team,

8489
05:31:56,100 --> 05:31:58,100
yourself, you are always

8490
05:31:58,100 --> 05:32:00,100
available if I need something.

8491
05:32:00,100 --> 05:32:01,100
you provide the information.

8492
05:32:01,100 --> 05:32:03,100
you're really good with

8493
05:32:03,100 --> 05:32:04,100
providing documents.

8494
05:32:04,100 --> 05:32:06,100
I appreciate that.

8495
05:32:06,100 --> 05:32:07,100
>> if I need it right away you

8496
05:32:07,100 --> 05:32:08,100
get it done.

8497
05:32:08,100 --> 05:32:09,100
thank you.

8498
05:32:09,100 --> 05:32:14,401
all I want to see is more of a

8499
05:32:16,100 --> 05:32:18,100
personable atmosphere.

8500
05:32:19,100 --> 05:32:20,100
I don't know if it's just me

8501
05:32:20,100 --> 05:32:22,100
with the problem.

8502
05:32:22,100 --> 05:32:24,100
over all I appreciate your

8503
05:32:24,100 --> 05:32:26,100
professionalism.

8504
05:32:26,100 --> 05:32:27,100
at the end of the day that's

8505
05:32:27,100 --> 05:32:28,100
what matters most.

8506
05:32:28,100 --> 05:32:30,100
you do your job and I thank you

8507
05:32:30,100 --> 05:32:32,100
for that. That's pretty much

8508
05:32:32,100 --> 05:32:33,100
what I have to say.

8509
05:32:33,100 --> 05:32:34,100
thanks.

8510
05:32:34,100 --> 05:32:35,100
>> mayor ryan.

8511
05:32:35,100 --> 05:32:37,100
>> thank you, deputy mayor.

8512
05:32:37,100 --> 05:32:40,100
felicia, I want to fish begin by

8513
05:32:40,100 --> 05:32:42,100
thanking you and your staff for

8514
05:32:42,100 --> 05:32:44,401
committing to leading the

8515
05:32:45,100 --> 05:32:47,100
mission in all regards as my

8516
05:32:47,100 --> 05:32:49,100
colleagues have pointed out in

8517
05:32:49,100 --> 05:32:50,100
the face of covid.

8518
05:32:50,100 --> 05:32:53,100
you were forced to adjust and

8519
05:32:53,100 --> 05:32:56,100
find a way to, with your staff

8520
05:32:56,100 --> 05:32:58,100
insure there was coverage and

8521
05:32:58,100 --> 05:33:00,100
that everybody could get the job

8522
05:33:00,100 --> 05:33:03,100
done even if it meant staggering

8523
05:33:03,100 --> 05:33:06,100
days and the opportunity to work

8524
05:33:06,100 --> 05:33:09,100
on weekends so that people were

8525
05:33:09,100 --> 05:33:11,100
not in the office while

8526
05:33:11,100 --> 05:33:13,100
continuing to meet the mission.

8527
05:33:13,100 --> 05:33:17,201
as has been said not only are

8528
05:33:18,100 --> 05:33:20,100
their cities that get sued for

8529
05:33:20,100 --> 05:33:23,100
not timely responding there has

8530
05:33:23,100 --> 05:33:25,100
been, we just need to admit it

8531
05:33:25,100 --> 05:33:26,100
there has been a cottage

8532
05:33:26,100 --> 05:33:29,100
industry of those who make

8533
05:33:31,100 --> 05:33:33,100
public record requests hoping

8534
05:33:33,100 --> 05:33:35,100
that either you will refuse it

8535
05:33:35,100 --> 05:33:37,100
or be untimely.

8536
05:33:39,100 --> 05:33:41,100
they ask for things like every

8537
05:33:41,100 --> 05:33:43,100
cellphone number of every

8538
05:33:43,100 --> 05:33:45,100
employer for a database that

8539
05:33:45,100 --> 05:33:48,100
they're compiling of all city

8540
05:33:48,100 --> 05:33:49,100
employees throughout the nation.

8541
05:33:49,100 --> 05:33:51,401
undoubtedly they're not doing

8542
05:33:52,100 --> 05:33:54,100
but they hope you will stumble.

8543
05:33:54,100 --> 05:33:55,100
you have never done that.

8544
05:33:55,100 --> 05:33:57,100
you have been able to meet all

8545
05:33:57,100 --> 05:33:59,100
of the public record requests.

8546
05:33:59,100 --> 05:34:02,601
those which we can question the

8547
05:34:06,100 --> 05:34:09,601
sincerity and those that are the

8548
05:34:10,100 --> 05:34:13,100
most fundamental with a timely

8549
05:34:13,100 --> 05:34:14,100
response.

8550
05:34:14,100 --> 05:34:16,401
you treat them equally.

8551
05:34:21,100 --> 05:34:24,100
I as commissioner douglas said,

8552
05:34:24,100 --> 05:34:26,100
I find the requests and public

8553
05:34:26,100 --> 05:34:28,100
responses interesting.

8554
05:34:28,100 --> 05:34:30,100
it's part of your work in being

8555
05:34:30,100 --> 05:34:31,100
transparent.

8556
05:34:31,100 --> 05:34:33,100
there is just no doubt that I

8557
05:34:33,100 --> 05:34:34,100
think from a public's

8558
05:34:34,100 --> 05:34:37,100
perspective when you call it

8559
05:34:37,100 --> 05:34:39,100
the, I thought it was a

8560
05:34:39,100 --> 05:34:40,100
interesting reference to the

8561
05:34:40,100 --> 05:34:43,100
submarine force of the military,

8562
05:34:43,100 --> 05:34:44,100
the silence.

8563
05:34:44,100 --> 05:34:45,100
you are the one behind the

8564
05:34:45,100 --> 05:34:47,100
scenes that you and your staff

8565
05:34:47,100 --> 05:34:50,601
that makes sure the city runs

8566
05:34:52,100 --> 05:34:54,100
smoothly in many respects and

8567
05:34:54,100 --> 05:34:55,100
never gets credit.

8568
05:34:55,100 --> 05:34:56,100
it's from making sure the

8569
05:34:56,100 --> 05:34:59,100
advisory boards not only that

8570
05:34:59,100 --> 05:35:01,100
the applications are available

8571
05:35:01,100 --> 05:35:03,100
to the commission for review but

8572
05:35:03,100 --> 05:35:05,100
that people are encourages.

8573
05:35:05,100 --> 05:35:08,601
that you -- some situations have

8574
05:35:09,100 --> 05:35:11,100
to be pursued.

8575
05:35:11,100 --> 05:35:12,100
then make sure thighs are

8576
05:35:12,100 --> 05:35:14,100
qualified candidates.

8577
05:35:14,100 --> 05:35:16,100
with the numbers that we have

8578
05:35:16,100 --> 05:35:18,100
seen and interests your job has

8579
05:35:18,100 --> 05:35:20,100
become more challenging.

8580
05:35:21,100 --> 05:35:23,100
to organize and be responsive.

8581
05:35:23,100 --> 05:35:26,601
I appreciate that you value the

8582
05:35:37,100 --> 05:35:39,100
advisory board.

8583
05:35:39,100 --> 05:35:41,100
you don't view it as a necessary

8584
05:35:41,100 --> 05:35:42,100
evil that you have to do.

8585
05:35:42,100 --> 05:35:44,100
2020 election didn't have

8586
05:36:05,100 --> 05:36:06,100
challenges.

8587
05:36:06,100 --> 05:36:09,601
your commitment to the right to

8588
05:36:10,100 --> 05:36:11,100
vote.

8589
05:36:11,100 --> 05:36:14,100
your engagement with the county,

8590
05:36:14,100 --> 05:36:16,100
supervisor of elections and

8591
05:36:16,100 --> 05:36:19,100
municipalities to make sure this

8592
05:36:20,100 --> 05:36:22,100
goes

8593
05:36:22,100 --> 05:36:24,100
(lost audio)

8594
05:36:27,100 --> 05:36:30,100
the financial expense on our

8595
05:36:31,100 --> 05:36:33,100
city and our residents.

8596
05:36:33,100 --> 05:36:35,100
you're one of those leaders.

8597
05:36:35,100 --> 05:36:37,100
we can tell from the e-mails

8598
05:36:37,100 --> 05:36:38,100
through the county.

8599
05:36:38,100 --> 05:36:40,100
you and your staff compiled

8600
05:36:40,100 --> 05:36:41,100
information quickly.

8601
05:36:41,100 --> 05:36:44,100
you prepared all of us to be

8602
05:36:44,100 --> 05:36:47,100
ready for the supervisor came,

8603
05:36:52,100 --> 05:36:53,100
have the important questions.

8604
05:36:53,100 --> 05:36:55,100
I thank you for your comment to

8605
05:36:55,100 --> 05:36:58,100
a professional work place, to

8606
05:36:58,100 --> 05:37:01,100
a -- making sure we're prepared

8607
05:37:01,100 --> 05:37:03,100
to maintaining the official

8608
05:37:03,100 --> 05:37:05,100
record as we pointed out.

8609
05:37:05,100 --> 05:37:07,100
being responsive to the

8610
05:37:07,100 --> 05:37:09,100
community and it can seep at

8611
05:37:09,100 --> 05:37:11,100
times antiseptic.

8612
05:37:16,100 --> 05:37:19,601
your staff are there to welcome

8613
05:37:30,100 --> 05:37:31,100
people and to do it in a

8614
05:37:31,100 --> 05:37:33,100
professional manner.

8615
05:37:33,100 --> 05:37:35,100
I thank you and your staff for

8616
05:37:35,100 --> 05:37:36,100
everything.

8617
05:37:36,100 --> 05:37:38,401
I like my colleagues

8618
05:37:39,100 --> 05:37:41,100
wholeheartedly provide a more

8619
05:37:41,100 --> 05:37:43,100
than favorable review.

8620
05:37:43,100 --> 05:37:44,100
thank you.

8621
05:37:44,100 --> 05:37:45,100
>> thank you.

8622
05:37:45,100 --> 05:37:46,100
>> thank you, mayor.

8623
05:37:46,100 --> 05:37:48,100
>> ms. Bravo in preparation of

8624
05:37:48,100 --> 05:37:51,100
your performance review I spoke

8625
05:37:51,100 --> 05:37:52,100
with you and reviewed your city

8626
05:37:52,100 --> 05:37:54,401
clerk memorandum, annual review,

8627
05:37:56,100 --> 05:37:58,100
and presentation annual review,

8628
05:37:58,100 --> 05:38:00,100
and the many e-mails you send

8629
05:38:00,100 --> 05:38:02,100
out weekly and through out the

8630
05:38:02,100 --> 05:38:03,100
year.

8631
05:38:03,100 --> 05:38:05,100
I find these above referenced

8632
05:38:05,100 --> 05:38:07,401
document cheerly identify your

8633
05:38:09,100 --> 05:38:11,100
achievements and objectives

8634
05:38:11,100 --> 05:38:13,401
throughout the fiscal year 2021.

8635
05:38:14,100 --> 05:38:15,100
with respect to your decision

8636
05:38:15,100 --> 05:38:17,100
making and judgements I feel you

8637
05:38:17,100 --> 05:38:19,100
consistently demonstrate a

8638
05:38:19,100 --> 05:38:21,401
quality analysis -- changes

8639
05:38:23,100 --> 05:38:25,100
within the city of sunrise

8640
05:38:25,100 --> 05:38:26,100
organization.

8641
05:38:26,100 --> 05:38:28,100
your guidance is instrument al

8642
05:38:28,100 --> 05:38:30,100
to my decision making and the

8643
05:38:30,100 --> 05:38:32,100
ultimate success of our city.

8644
05:38:32,100 --> 05:38:34,100
with respect to personal

8645
05:38:34,100 --> 05:38:35,100
development.

8646
05:38:35,100 --> 05:38:37,100
I find you recruit and maintain

8647
05:38:37,100 --> 05:38:40,100
a diverse staff, establish an

8648
05:38:40,100 --> 05:38:42,100
effective management team, I

8649
05:38:42,100 --> 05:38:44,100
know you in the past and

8650
05:38:44,100 --> 05:38:46,100
consistently recognize the

8651
05:38:46,100 --> 05:38:48,401
accomplishments made by your

8652
05:38:49,100 --> 05:38:51,401
office and city staff.

8653
05:38:52,100 --> 05:38:53,100
they couldn't of taken place

8654
05:38:53,100 --> 05:38:54,100
without the input.

8655
05:38:54,100 --> 05:38:58,201
I find you're a, you have a

8656
05:39:01,100 --> 05:39:03,100
dedicated and talented staff in

8657
05:39:03,100 --> 05:39:05,100
making you successful.

8658
05:39:07,100 --> 05:39:09,100
you have demonstrated great

8659
05:39:09,100 --> 05:39:11,100
resiliency dealing with

8660
05:39:12,100 --> 05:39:13,100
covid-19, the specially hex,

8661
05:39:13,100 --> 05:39:16,100
cost of elections coming up.

8662
05:39:16,100 --> 05:39:17,100
I find that incredibly

8663
05:39:17,100 --> 05:39:20,100
invaluable and useful tools for

8664
05:39:20,100 --> 05:39:22,100
us in making my decision making

8665
05:39:22,100 --> 05:39:23,100
up here.

8666
05:39:23,100 --> 05:39:24,100
I command you on training the

8667
05:39:24,100 --> 05:39:26,100
employees and board members

8668
05:39:26,100 --> 05:39:28,100
alike on open meeting laws,

8669
05:39:28,100 --> 05:39:30,100
public records act.

8670
05:39:30,100 --> 05:39:31,100
I find your planning and

8671
05:39:31,100 --> 05:39:34,100
organization, you work well with

8672
05:39:35,100 --> 05:39:38,100
the commission, the city manager

8673
05:39:38,100 --> 05:39:40,100
office for the city to achieve

8674
05:39:40,100 --> 05:39:42,100
mission goals and financial

8675
05:39:42,100 --> 05:39:43,100
liability.

8676
05:39:43,100 --> 05:39:44,100
with respect to your

8677
05:39:44,100 --> 05:39:45,100
interpersonal skills I believe

8678
05:39:45,100 --> 05:39:47,100
you have built and continue to

8679
05:39:47,100 --> 05:39:49,100
build respect and profile for

8680
05:39:49,100 --> 05:39:52,601
the city of sunrise through your

8681
05:39:55,100 --> 05:39:56,100
position.

8682
05:39:56,100 --> 05:39:58,100
exceptional customer service and

8683
05:39:58,100 --> 05:40:00,100
that is evident in my

8684
05:40:00,100 --> 05:40:02,100
conversations with city staff,

8685
05:40:02,100 --> 05:40:03,100
residents and board members.

8686
05:40:03,100 --> 05:40:05,100
I find you work well with staff,

8687
05:40:05,100 --> 05:40:07,100
financial committee, city

8688
05:40:07,100 --> 05:40:09,100
manager, commission to prepare

8689
05:40:09,100 --> 05:40:11,100
budgets, monitor progress,

8690
05:40:11,100 --> 05:40:13,100
initiate changes in operations

8691
05:40:13,100 --> 05:40:14,100
and order budgets as

8692
05:40:14,100 --> 05:40:16,100
appropriate.

8693
05:40:16,100 --> 05:40:19,100
again as I have preferenced a

8694
05:40:19,100 --> 05:40:21,100
few moments ago I am

8695
05:40:21,100 --> 05:40:23,100
consistently informed with

8696
05:40:24,100 --> 05:40:26,100
e-mails, public records

8697
05:40:26,100 --> 05:40:27,100
requests.

8698
05:40:27,100 --> 05:40:29,401
I find them timely.

8699
05:40:31,100 --> 05:40:33,100
in a way that gives me a thumb

8700
05:40:33,100 --> 05:40:34,100
print of the organization.

8701
05:40:34,100 --> 05:40:36,100
the important factors

8702
05:40:36,100 --> 05:40:38,100
influencing it.

8703
05:40:38,100 --> 05:40:40,100
forwarding the resolutions from

8704
05:40:40,100 --> 05:40:42,100
other municipalities your weekly

8705
05:40:42,100 --> 05:40:44,100
public report requests are

8706
05:40:44,100 --> 05:40:46,100
instrumental in my decision

8707
05:40:46,100 --> 05:40:47,100
making.

8708
05:40:47,100 --> 05:40:50,100
I believe you provide me support

8709
05:40:50,100 --> 05:40:52,100
for documents and public records

8710
05:40:52,100 --> 05:40:53,100
needed.

8711
05:40:53,100 --> 05:40:55,100
I believe you represent the city

8712
05:40:55,100 --> 05:40:57,100
of sunrise well.

8713
05:40:59,100 --> 05:41:01,100
with respect to administrative

8714
05:41:01,100 --> 05:41:04,100
policies and procedures you are

8715
05:41:04,100 --> 05:41:05,100
the official records and

8716
05:41:05,100 --> 05:41:07,100
documents custodian.

8717
05:41:07,100 --> 05:41:09,100
you insure they're retained and

8718
05:41:09,100 --> 05:41:11,100
destroyed in accordance with

8719
05:41:11,100 --> 05:41:13,100
state public records laws.

8720
05:41:13,100 --> 05:41:16,100
I believe you insure adequate

8721
05:41:16,100 --> 05:41:18,100
reports of financing and

8722
05:41:18,100 --> 05:41:20,100
financial practices.

8723
05:41:20,100 --> 05:41:23,100
I commend you maintaining the

8724
05:41:23,100 --> 05:41:25,100
registered lobbyist disclosures

8725
05:41:25,100 --> 05:41:28,100
for our use as my colleagues

8726
05:41:28,100 --> 05:41:30,100
have said I am pleased to find

8727
05:41:30,100 --> 05:41:32,100
your performance excellent for

8728
05:41:32,100 --> 05:41:33,100
this review period.

8729
05:41:33,100 --> 05:41:34,100
>> thank you, sir.

8730
05:41:34,100 --> 05:41:36,401
>> unfortunately I think your

8731
05:41:37,100 --> 05:41:38,100
different.

8732
05:41:38,100 --> 05:41:39,100
your employment contract is

8733
05:41:39,100 --> 05:41:40,100
different from the previous

8734
05:41:40,100 --> 05:41:41,100
three.

8735
05:41:41,100 --> 05:41:42,100
>> that's okay.

8736
05:41:42,100 --> 05:41:44,100
>> reading the exert it says in

8737
05:41:44,100 --> 05:41:47,100
exchange for her services as

8738
05:41:47,100 --> 05:41:50,100
city clerk felicia receives the

8739
05:41:51,100 --> 05:41:52,100
following benefits unless

8740
05:41:52,100 --> 05:41:54,401
otherwise provided by the

8741
05:41:55,100 --> 05:41:56,100
agreement.

8742
05:41:56,100 --> 05:41:59,100
all provided as designated, the

8743
05:41:59,100 --> 05:42:01,100
city's executive ordinance at

8744
05:42:01,100 --> 05:42:03,100
the same level which they're

8745
05:42:03,100 --> 05:42:06,100
provided as this agreement and

8746
05:42:06,100 --> 05:42:08,100
additional benefits and

8747
05:42:08,100 --> 05:42:09,100
increases.

8748
05:42:09,100 --> 05:42:11,100
if the city commission approved

8749
05:42:11,100 --> 05:42:14,100
an increase for -- then

8750
05:42:15,100 --> 05:42:17,100
ms. Bravo should receive the

8751
05:42:17,100 --> 05:42:19,100
increase on your anniversary

8752
05:42:19,100 --> 05:42:20,100
date.

8753
05:42:20,100 --> 05:42:21,100
I'm not sure --

8754
05:42:21,100 --> 05:42:23,100
>> city manager, can you help us

8755
05:42:23,100 --> 05:42:24,100
with that.

8756
05:42:24,100 --> 05:42:26,100
how do we interpret that is.

8757
05:42:26,100 --> 05:42:29,601
there a trigger point where a

8758
05:42:30,100 --> 05:42:32,100
merit increase would be.

8759
05:42:32,100 --> 05:42:34,100
>> yes years ago the city would

8760
05:42:34,100 --> 05:42:36,100
annually approve the merits for

8761
05:42:36,100 --> 05:42:39,100
each employee to be eligible.

8762
05:42:39,100 --> 05:42:43,100
I believe back in 2011 it was a,

8763
05:42:43,100 --> 05:42:46,601
a 715x item authorize d that

8764
05:42:47,100 --> 05:42:48,100
moving forward.

8765
05:42:48,100 --> 05:42:49,100
that item is approved.

8766
05:42:49,100 --> 05:42:52,100
>> so would there be a trigger

8767
05:42:52,100 --> 05:42:56,201
that would do what we did for

8768
05:42:57,100 --> 05:42:59,100
the rest of the charter officers

8769
05:42:59,100 --> 05:43:01,100
at a different point or how do

8770
05:43:01,100 --> 05:43:02,100
we?

8771
05:43:02,100 --> 05:43:05,601
the trigger would be a favorable

8772
05:43:08,100 --> 05:43:09,100
review.

8773
05:43:09,100 --> 05:43:11,100
>> in terms of -- I know

8774
05:43:11,100 --> 05:43:13,100
ms. Bravo's contract and the

8775
05:43:13,100 --> 05:43:14,100
trigger point.

8776
05:43:14,100 --> 05:43:18,201
even if we didn't do a review.

8777
05:43:23,100 --> 05:43:25,100
>> hell me clear it up.

8778
05:43:25,100 --> 05:43:27,100
>> no review no merit.

8779
05:43:27,100 --> 05:43:31,100
>> no if there was no review she

8780
05:43:31,100 --> 05:43:33,100
gets a merit.

8781
05:43:33,100 --> 05:43:35,100
>> with a review?

8782
05:43:35,100 --> 05:43:37,100
>> she gets a merit.

8783
05:43:37,100 --> 05:43:40,100
>> do we do it now or a double

8784
05:43:40,100 --> 05:43:41,100
dip?

8785
05:43:41,100 --> 05:43:42,100
>> no double dip.

8786
05:43:42,100 --> 05:43:44,100
sorry, I didn't realize the

8787
05:43:44,100 --> 05:43:45,100
question.

8788
05:43:45,100 --> 05:43:47,100
I'm slow.

8789
05:43:48,100 --> 05:43:49,100
>> okay.

8790
05:43:49,100 --> 05:43:50,100
then we --

8791
05:43:50,100 --> 05:43:52,100
>> she is automatically getting

8792
05:43:52,100 --> 05:43:53,100
a merit.

8793
05:43:53,100 --> 05:43:54,100
>> yes.

8794
05:43:54,100 --> 05:43:55,100
>> okay.

8795
05:43:55,100 --> 05:43:56,100
>> alright.

8796
05:43:56,100 --> 05:43:57,100
>> agree?

8797
05:43:57,100 --> 05:43:58,100
>> she would of receive it did

8798
05:43:58,100 --> 05:44:01,100
on her anniversary date in

8799
05:44:01,100 --> 05:44:02,100
february.

8800
05:44:02,100 --> 05:44:04,100
>> she hasn't gotten it?

8801
05:44:04,100 --> 05:44:05,100
>> she did.

8802
05:44:05,100 --> 05:44:06,100
she should have.

8803
05:44:06,100 --> 05:44:07,100
>> okay.

8804
05:44:07,100 --> 05:44:10,601
we're wasting our time on her.

8805
05:44:11,100 --> 05:44:13,100
we didn't have to review her she

8806
05:44:13,100 --> 05:44:14,100
got it.

8807
05:44:14,100 --> 05:44:15,100
>> it's still important it be

8808
05:44:15,100 --> 05:44:16,100
done.

8809
05:44:16,100 --> 05:44:17,100
>> I want to make sure the

8810
05:44:17,100 --> 05:44:19,100
public understands.

8811
05:44:19,100 --> 05:44:21,100
>> thank you, again, ms. Bravo.

8812
05:44:21,100 --> 05:44:24,100
>> she has a employment range.

8813
05:44:24,100 --> 05:44:25,100
as long as she is in the

8814
05:44:25,100 --> 05:44:27,401
employment range she will.

8815
05:44:28,100 --> 05:44:30,100
>> are you in the range?

8816
05:44:30,100 --> 05:44:31,100
>> yes.

8817
05:44:31,100 --> 05:44:32,100
>> okay, good.

8818
05:44:32,100 --> 05:44:33,100
>> alright.

8819
05:44:33,100 --> 05:44:35,100
thank you again ms. Bravo for

8820
05:44:35,100 --> 05:44:36,100
presenting to us.

8821
05:44:36,100 --> 05:44:40,100
and to the millions of people at

8822
05:44:40,100 --> 05:44:42,100
home that are watching.

8823
05:44:42,100 --> 05:44:43,100
>> thank you.

8824
05:44:43,100 --> 05:44:44,100
>> thank you.

8825
05:44:44,100 --> 05:44:46,100
>> my distinct pleasure to work

8826
05:44:46,100 --> 05:44:47,100
with the city.

8827
05:44:47,100 --> 05:44:49,100
I'm probably one of the biggest

8828
05:44:49,100 --> 05:44:51,100
advocates when I leave town and

8829
05:44:51,100 --> 05:44:53,100
go out of town, people ask me

8830
05:44:53,100 --> 05:44:55,100
about sunrise I tell them all

8831
05:44:55,100 --> 05:44:56,100
about it.

8832
05:44:56,100 --> 05:44:57,100
thank you.

8833
05:44:57,100 --> 05:44:58,100
>> no, we're not done yet.

8834
05:44:58,100 --> 05:45:00,100
>> no commissioner, mayor

8835
05:45:01,100 --> 05:45:02,100
reports.

8836
05:45:02,100 --> 05:45:03,100
>> no report.

8837
05:45:03,100 --> 05:45:04,100
>> no report.

8838
05:45:04,100 --> 05:45:07,100
>> I will just do one report.

8839
05:45:07,100 --> 05:45:08,100
one report that's it.

8840
05:45:08,100 --> 05:45:11,100
out of the five I.

8841
05:45:12,100 --> 05:45:15,100
have so, earlier we did have on

8842
05:45:15,100 --> 05:45:16,100
the call mr. Hill with the

8843
05:45:16,100 --> 05:45:18,100
american heart association.

8844
05:45:18,100 --> 05:45:20,100
he was going to briefly talk

8845
05:45:20,100 --> 05:45:22,100
about the upcoming.

8846
05:45:24,100 --> 05:45:26,100
what they were planning to do or

8847
05:45:26,100 --> 05:45:29,100
wanting to do in our city.

8848
05:45:29,100 --> 05:45:30,100
I don't know if we need to have

8849
05:45:30,100 --> 05:45:33,100
him speak on it if I can talk

8850
05:45:33,100 --> 05:45:34,100
about it.

8851
05:45:34,100 --> 05:45:36,100
I don't know what the protocol

8852
05:45:36,100 --> 05:45:37,100
is.

8853
05:45:37,100 --> 05:45:38,100
>> when is it?

8854
05:45:38,100 --> 05:45:40,100
>> friday february 4th is

8855
05:45:40,100 --> 05:45:42,100
national red day for women,

8856
05:45:42,100 --> 05:45:43,100
american heart.

8857
05:45:43,100 --> 05:45:46,100
this past year we were all

8858
05:45:46,100 --> 05:45:48,100
wearing red supportive and had a

8859
05:45:48,100 --> 05:45:49,100
proclamation.

8860
05:45:49,100 --> 05:45:50,100
thank you.

8861
05:45:50,100 --> 05:45:51,100
we were looking to possibly see

8862
05:45:51,100 --> 05:45:53,100
about doing a fashion show here

8863
05:45:53,100 --> 05:45:54,100
at the city.

8864
05:45:54,100 --> 05:45:56,100
making it like an annual thing.

8865
05:45:56,100 --> 05:45:59,100
not just any, you know fashion

8866
05:45:59,100 --> 05:46:00,100
show.

8867
05:46:00,100 --> 05:46:03,100
really making it a nice, you

8868
05:46:03,100 --> 05:46:05,100
know not fund raiser but more of

8869
05:46:05,100 --> 05:46:09,100
a gala where we're in support of

8870
05:46:09,100 --> 05:46:11,100
awareness for the american

8871
05:46:11,100 --> 05:46:12,100
heart.

8872
05:46:12,100 --> 05:46:13,100
so american heart was going to

8873
05:46:13,100 --> 05:46:14,100
come in.

8874
05:46:14,100 --> 05:46:15,100
sawgrass would be part of it

8875
05:46:15,100 --> 05:46:17,100
there has already been talk.

8876
05:46:17,100 --> 05:46:18,100
I don't know if mark wants to

8877
05:46:18,100 --> 05:46:19,100
talk about it.

8878
05:46:19,100 --> 05:46:21,100
if you have questions --

8879
05:46:21,100 --> 05:46:22,100
>> you're saying?

8880
05:46:22,100 --> 05:46:24,100
>> it would be the american

8881
05:46:24,100 --> 05:46:25,100
heart association.

8882
05:46:25,100 --> 05:46:27,100
they're on our list for support

8883
05:46:27,100 --> 05:46:28,100
already.

8884
05:46:28,100 --> 05:46:31,100
so I don't know if kim wants to

8885
05:46:31,100 --> 05:46:35,201
speak on that or if mark needs

8886
05:46:36,100 --> 05:46:37,100
to.

8887
05:46:37,100 --> 05:46:38,100
>> when is the event?

8888
05:46:38,100 --> 05:46:40,100
>> friday february 4th, 2022.

8889
05:46:41,100 --> 05:46:43,100
>> there is time.

8890
05:46:43,100 --> 05:46:44,100
>> so they were added in terms

8891
05:46:44,100 --> 05:46:45,100
of budget.

8892
05:46:45,100 --> 05:46:47,401
what is required too?

8893
05:46:48,100 --> 05:46:51,100
we do make -- allocations.

8894
05:46:56,100 --> 05:46:58,100
there is a long list.

8895
05:46:58,100 --> 05:47:01,100
the list is way longer than --

8896
05:47:01,100 --> 05:47:03,100
(lost audio)

8897
05:47:17,100 --> 05:47:19,100
>> I don't know how it works,

8898
05:47:19,100 --> 05:47:21,100
it's more of a matter of

8899
05:47:21,100 --> 05:47:23,100
providing the ballroom and a

8900
05:47:23,100 --> 05:47:24,100
stage of some sort.

8901
05:47:24,100 --> 05:47:26,100
then them getting other

8902
05:47:26,100 --> 05:47:28,100
organizations or how ever they

8903
05:47:28,100 --> 05:47:29,100
want to fund it.

8904
05:47:29,100 --> 05:47:31,100
it's more of us providing a spot

8905
05:47:31,100 --> 05:47:33,100
to host it if that makes sense.

8906
05:47:33,100 --> 05:47:35,100
>> we can't give them the hall.

8907
05:47:35,100 --> 05:47:37,100
otherwise everyone else would

8908
05:47:37,100 --> 05:47:38,100
ask for the hall.

8909
05:47:38,100 --> 05:47:39,100
>> yes.

8910
05:47:39,100 --> 05:47:41,100
>> with government everything

8911
05:47:42,100 --> 05:47:44,100
has to be -- we have to show

8912
05:47:44,100 --> 05:47:46,100
it's for a public purpose.

8913
05:47:46,100 --> 05:47:49,100
>> if they're asking us as a

8914
05:47:49,100 --> 05:47:52,601
501c3 when we do the budget

8915
05:47:56,100 --> 05:47:57,100
that's one thing.

8916
05:47:57,100 --> 05:47:59,100
if they ask for money for

8917
05:47:59,100 --> 05:48:00,100
that --

8918
05:48:00,100 --> 05:48:02,100
>> they're not asking for money.

8919
05:48:02,100 --> 05:48:05,100
>> well -- I'm saying we have a

8920
05:48:05,100 --> 05:48:07,100
contract for the ballroom.

8921
05:48:07,100 --> 05:48:08,100
it's not our ballroom.

8922
05:48:08,100 --> 05:48:11,100
we have a, it's totally

8923
05:48:12,100 --> 05:48:13,100
different.

8924
05:48:13,100 --> 05:48:14,100
>> I know --

8925
05:48:14,100 --> 05:48:16,100
>> it is our ballroom.

8926
05:48:16,100 --> 05:48:19,100
>> unless it's a city event.

8927
05:48:19,100 --> 05:48:21,100
>> I don't know how, what is the

8928
05:48:21,100 --> 05:48:23,100
best way to move forward.

8929
05:48:23,100 --> 05:48:25,100
I know there is conversation

8930
05:48:25,100 --> 05:48:26,100
with emily.

8931
05:48:26,100 --> 05:48:28,401
>> city manager, is american

8932
05:48:29,100 --> 05:48:31,100
heart on the list for people

8933
05:48:31,100 --> 05:48:34,100
seeking money for the next cycle

8934
05:48:34,100 --> 05:48:36,100
of charitable donations.

8935
05:48:36,100 --> 05:48:38,401
>> I don't believe so.

8936
05:48:39,100 --> 05:48:41,100
based on discussions I have had

8937
05:48:41,100 --> 05:48:42,100
the request is not for money

8938
05:48:42,100 --> 05:48:44,100
it's just for utilizing our

8939
05:48:44,100 --> 05:48:46,100
facility for that day.

8940
05:48:46,100 --> 05:48:48,100
>> has there been other times

8941
05:48:48,100 --> 05:48:51,100
where we have been, how does the

8942
05:48:51,100 --> 05:48:53,100
commission weight in for that to

8943
05:48:53,100 --> 05:48:54,100
occur.

8944
05:48:54,100 --> 05:48:56,100
>> would I have to get with the

8945
05:48:56,100 --> 05:48:57,100
city attorney and see how to

8946
05:48:57,100 --> 05:48:59,100
accomplish that.

8947
05:48:59,100 --> 05:49:01,100
I believe it may of been done in

8948
05:49:01,100 --> 05:49:02,100
the past.

8949
05:49:02,100 --> 05:49:04,100
>> you have to find it's for a

8950
05:49:04,100 --> 05:49:06,100
public purpose --

8951
05:49:06,100 --> 05:49:07,100
>> they're selling tickets to

8952
05:49:07,100 --> 05:49:09,100
make money for their charity.

8953
05:49:09,100 --> 05:49:10,100
it's different.

8954
05:49:10,100 --> 05:49:12,100
so every charity could come to

8955
05:49:12,100 --> 05:49:14,100
us and ask us to give them a

8956
05:49:14,100 --> 05:49:16,100
free ballroom so they can sell

8957
05:49:16,100 --> 05:49:18,100
tickets and make money for the

8958
05:49:18,100 --> 05:49:19,100
charity.

8959
05:49:19,100 --> 05:49:20,100
let's let the city attorney look

8960
05:49:20,100 --> 05:49:21,100
at it.

8961
05:49:21,100 --> 05:49:23,100
>> what if it's a city event.

8962
05:49:23,100 --> 05:49:26,100
>> then it's another city event.

8963
05:49:26,100 --> 05:49:28,100
they're making money off of us.

8964
05:49:28,100 --> 05:49:30,100
how is it a city event and they

8965
05:49:30,100 --> 05:49:32,100
sell tickets for the event and

8966
05:49:32,100 --> 05:49:34,100
they keep the money.

8967
05:49:34,100 --> 05:49:36,100
it's not a city event then.

8968
05:49:36,100 --> 05:49:37,100
>> when is the date?

8969
05:49:37,100 --> 05:49:38,100
>> february.

8970
05:49:38,100 --> 05:49:39,100
>> february next year.

8971
05:49:39,100 --> 05:49:40,100
>> okay.

8972
05:49:40,100 --> 05:49:43,601
we can the city attorney advice

8973
05:49:45,100 --> 05:49:46,100
us this.

8974
05:49:46,100 --> 05:49:47,100
is sufficient time.

8975
05:49:47,100 --> 05:49:49,100
not tonight.

8976
05:49:50,100 --> 05:49:52,100
yes, I think we have time to

8977
05:49:52,100 --> 05:49:54,100
weight in on it.

8978
05:49:54,100 --> 05:49:55,100
>> alright.

8979
05:49:55,100 --> 05:49:56,100
>> thank you.

8980
05:49:56,100 --> 05:49:57,100
>> mayor, any report?

8981
05:49:57,100 --> 05:49:59,100
>> yes.

8982
05:49:59,100 --> 05:50:01,100
first of all just to my

8983
05:50:01,100 --> 05:50:02,100
colleagues.

8984
05:50:02,100 --> 05:50:04,100
I have asked city manager's

8985
05:50:04,100 --> 05:50:06,100
office to provide a update to

8986
05:50:06,100 --> 05:50:08,100
each of us on the 40 year

8987
05:50:08,100 --> 05:50:09,100
inspection report process as

8988
05:50:09,100 --> 05:50:12,100
well as the status of reports

8989
05:50:12,100 --> 05:50:14,401
for the years 2019, 2020, and

8990
05:50:16,100 --> 05:50:17,100
the current year.

8991
05:50:17,100 --> 05:50:18,100
those are forthcoming.

8992
05:50:18,100 --> 05:50:20,100
I know a number of buildings

8993
05:50:20,100 --> 05:50:23,601
and -- will be brought before

8994
05:50:24,100 --> 05:50:26,100
the special magistrate in august

8995
05:50:26,100 --> 05:50:28,100
regarding the reports.

8996
05:50:28,100 --> 05:50:30,100
so I encourage you to look at

8997
05:50:30,100 --> 05:50:32,100
that. You know that is a

8998
05:50:32,100 --> 05:50:34,100
particularly hot topic right

8999
05:50:34,100 --> 05:50:35,100
now.

9000
05:50:35,100 --> 05:50:38,100
you may get compliance as we

9001
05:50:38,100 --> 05:50:40,401
have historically from various

9002
05:50:41,100 --> 05:50:43,401
associations related to the 40

9003
05:50:44,100 --> 05:50:45,100
year inspection.

9004
05:50:45,100 --> 05:50:46,100
I want the city manager office

9005
05:50:46,100 --> 05:50:48,100
to provide that information so

9006
05:50:48,100 --> 05:50:50,100
you have that.

9007
05:50:51,100 --> 05:50:53,100
second as you know broward

9008
05:50:53,100 --> 05:50:55,100
county is in the news as a

9009
05:50:55,100 --> 05:50:58,100
result of being a covid hot spot

9010
05:50:58,100 --> 05:50:59,100
if not the primary hot spot in

9011
05:50:59,100 --> 05:51:00,100
the country.

9012
05:51:00,100 --> 05:51:03,601
our hospital rates and icu and

9013
05:51:04,100 --> 05:51:06,401
positivity rate sat 1% reported

9014
05:51:07,100 --> 05:51:08,100
today.

9015
05:51:08,100 --> 05:51:11,601
since july 25th we have had 59

9016
05:51:12,100 --> 05:51:14,100
covid deaths in broward county.

9017
05:51:14,100 --> 05:51:16,100
I don't remember a pace like

9018
05:51:16,100 --> 05:51:17,100
that since the start of the

9019
05:51:17,100 --> 05:51:18,100
pandemic.

9020
05:51:18,100 --> 05:51:21,100
I raise it because we have here

9021
05:51:21,100 --> 05:51:23,401
tonight shared our appreciations

9022
05:51:27,100 --> 05:51:29,100
to our charter officers and our

9023
05:51:29,100 --> 05:51:31,401
employees with an employee

9024
05:51:32,100 --> 05:51:34,100
appreciations dinner scheduled

9025
05:51:35,100 --> 05:51:38,100
the next couple of weeks.

9026
05:51:38,100 --> 05:51:41,100
I personally feel it's ill

9027
05:51:41,100 --> 05:51:44,100
advised for us to have a indoor

9028
05:51:44,100 --> 05:51:45,100
gathering of hundreds of

9029
05:51:45,100 --> 05:51:46,100
employees particularly with the

9030
05:51:46,100 --> 05:51:49,100
fact that while we face covid

9031
05:51:49,100 --> 05:51:52,100
and we call it covid-19 this

9032
05:51:52,100 --> 05:51:54,100
delta variant is not last year's

9033
05:51:54,100 --> 05:51:55,100
covid.

9034
05:51:55,100 --> 05:51:57,401
the transmissibility, the ris

9035
05:52:01,100 --> 05:52:03,100
stocks children that we see

9036
05:52:03,100 --> 05:52:05,100
communicated, and the basic fact

9037
05:52:05,100 --> 05:52:08,100
that I think is evolving and

9038
05:52:08,100 --> 05:52:10,100
confirmed which is that even

9039
05:52:10,100 --> 05:52:13,100
those who are vaccinated, if we

9040
05:52:13,100 --> 05:52:16,601
have covid can transit to those

9041
05:52:17,100 --> 05:52:20,601
that may, a, be unvaccinated or

9042
05:52:21,100 --> 05:52:23,100
b, be vaccinated and further

9043
05:52:23,100 --> 05:52:24,100
transmit it.

9044
05:52:24,100 --> 05:52:26,100
I have to question whether or

9045
05:52:26,100 --> 05:52:28,100
not mr. City manager, it's

9046
05:52:28,100 --> 05:52:30,100
appropriate for us to provide at

9047
05:52:30,100 --> 05:52:32,100
this time with the employee

9048
05:52:32,100 --> 05:52:34,100
appreciations dinner.

9049
05:52:36,100 --> 05:52:39,100
I don't want to put it off but I

9050
05:52:39,100 --> 05:52:40,100
think we have to find other ways

9051
05:52:40,100 --> 05:52:43,100
to do it rather than gathering a

9052
05:52:43,100 --> 05:52:44,100
now hundred people in a in door

9053
05:52:44,100 --> 05:52:46,100
event in light of what is going

9054
05:52:46,100 --> 05:52:47,100
on currently.

9055
05:52:47,100 --> 05:52:50,601
I certainly am one to looking

9056
05:52:52,100 --> 05:52:53,100
forward to getting beyond that.

9057
05:52:53,100 --> 05:52:55,100
would I ask the city manager

9058
05:52:55,100 --> 05:52:58,100
what is the site manager's

9059
05:52:58,100 --> 05:53:00,100
position regarding this employee

9060
05:53:00,100 --> 05:53:02,100
appreciation dinner in the

9061
05:53:02,100 --> 05:53:04,100
context of the current covid-19

9062
05:53:04,100 --> 05:53:05,100
situation.

9063
05:53:05,100 --> 05:53:06,100
>> city manager.

9064
05:53:06,100 --> 05:53:08,100
>> so, coincidentally this was

9065
05:53:08,100 --> 05:53:10,100
something I was intending to

9066
05:53:10,100 --> 05:53:13,100
bring up under city manager's

9067
05:53:13,100 --> 05:53:14,100
report.

9068
05:53:14,100 --> 05:53:16,100
right now we have a little over

9069
05:53:16,100 --> 05:53:18,100
200 employees that have signed

9070
05:53:18,100 --> 05:53:20,100
up for the employee appreciation

9071
05:53:20,100 --> 05:53:22,401
dinner friday august 27th.

9072
05:53:27,100 --> 05:53:29,100
as the mayor stated the covid

9073
05:53:29,100 --> 05:53:32,100
rates are rising the past few

9074
05:53:32,100 --> 05:53:33,100
months.

9075
05:53:33,100 --> 05:53:34,100
I know the commission has

9076
05:53:34,100 --> 05:53:35,100
provided direction in the past

9077
05:53:35,100 --> 05:53:38,100
to me in terms of the masks

9078
05:53:38,100 --> 05:53:40,100
requirements across the city.

9079
05:53:40,100 --> 05:53:42,100
so I was going to solicit

9080
05:53:42,100 --> 05:53:43,100
feedback from the commission to

9081
05:53:43,100 --> 05:53:46,100
see what their, if they would

9082
05:53:46,100 --> 05:53:48,100
provide me some --

9083
05:53:48,100 --> 05:53:50,100
>> I will give you some

9084
05:53:50,100 --> 05:53:51,100
feedback.

9085
05:53:51,100 --> 05:53:52,100
>> wait a second.

9086
05:53:52,100 --> 05:53:54,100
I still have the floor.

9087
05:53:54,100 --> 05:53:56,100
thank you.

9088
05:53:56,100 --> 05:53:59,100
I certainly have as my third

9089
05:53:59,100 --> 05:54:01,100
item the mask requirements.

9090
05:54:01,100 --> 05:54:03,100
go ahead city manager.

9091
05:54:03,100 --> 05:54:05,100
>> mayor, that's is from my

9092
05:54:05,100 --> 05:54:06,100
perspective.

9093
05:54:06,100 --> 05:54:08,100
I'm conflicted from the position

9094
05:54:08,100 --> 05:54:10,100
some employees are clearly

9095
05:54:10,100 --> 05:54:11,100
interested in attending with the

9096
05:54:11,100 --> 05:54:13,401
number of sign ups.

9097
05:54:14,100 --> 05:54:16,100
I have concerns over all with

9098
05:54:16,100 --> 05:54:18,100
where things are trending from

9099
05:54:18,100 --> 05:54:20,100
my perspective.

9100
05:54:20,100 --> 05:54:22,100
>> have you, have you

9101
05:54:22,100 --> 05:54:23,100
established for the purposes of

9102
05:54:23,100 --> 05:54:25,100
the dinner whether or not it's

9103
05:54:25,100 --> 05:54:27,100
for, I'm not asking that you

9104
05:54:27,100 --> 05:54:30,100
should, I'm asking if you have,

9105
05:54:30,100 --> 05:54:32,100
either people should be

9106
05:54:32,100 --> 05:54:34,401
vaccinated or mask requirement?

9107
05:54:35,100 --> 05:54:37,100
have you --

9108
05:54:37,100 --> 05:54:39,100
>> I think it's inappropriate to

9109
05:54:39,100 --> 05:54:41,100
put the city manager in that

9110
05:54:41,100 --> 05:54:42,100
position.

9111
05:54:42,100 --> 05:54:44,100
>> excuse me I have the floor.

9112
05:54:44,100 --> 05:54:45,100
>> you can have the floor.

9113
05:54:45,100 --> 05:54:47,100
I don't think you should ask the

9114
05:54:47,100 --> 05:54:49,100
city manager to make the

9115
05:54:49,100 --> 05:54:50,100
decision on the spot.

9116
05:54:50,100 --> 05:54:52,401
>> that may well be.

9117
05:54:53,100 --> 05:54:54,100
I'm asking him.

9118
05:54:54,100 --> 05:54:56,100
if I can do that without --

9119
05:54:56,100 --> 05:54:59,100
>> you didn't come last year --

9120
05:54:59,100 --> 05:55:00,100
>> come on it's too late.

9121
05:55:00,100 --> 05:55:03,100
>> mayor the floor is yours.

9122
05:55:04,100 --> 05:55:06,100
>> -- and have you considered

9123
05:55:06,100 --> 05:55:09,100
whether to reinstitute a mask

9124
05:55:09,100 --> 05:55:11,100
requirement in general as

9125
05:55:11,100 --> 05:55:13,100
broward county has done for

9126
05:55:13,100 --> 05:55:15,100
government buildings and for

9127
05:55:15,100 --> 05:55:17,401
those in our offices?

9128
05:55:18,100 --> 05:55:20,401
>> so regarding the employee

9129
05:55:21,100 --> 05:55:24,100
appreciations dinner no, we have

9130
05:55:24,100 --> 05:55:27,100
not identified that as a

9131
05:55:27,100 --> 05:55:29,100
requirement in terms of masks.

9132
05:55:29,100 --> 05:55:32,601
now, relating to a mask mandate

9133
05:55:33,100 --> 05:55:34,100
across the city.

9134
05:55:34,100 --> 05:55:37,100
we have done as an organization

9135
05:55:37,100 --> 05:55:39,100
I think we have done a good job

9136
05:55:39,100 --> 05:55:41,100
in communicating to our staff

9137
05:55:41,100 --> 05:55:43,401
about recommending and strongly

9138
05:55:44,100 --> 05:55:46,100
recommend our employees wear

9139
05:55:46,100 --> 05:55:47,100
masks.

9140
05:55:47,100 --> 05:55:49,100
I think our employees have done

9141
05:55:49,100 --> 05:55:50,100
a excellent job.

9142
05:55:50,100 --> 05:55:52,100
although there has been a few

9143
05:55:52,100 --> 05:55:55,100
issues outside of the city hall.

9144
05:55:55,100 --> 05:55:57,100
I think generally you know we

9145
05:55:57,100 --> 05:55:59,100
don't have, we're not seeing

9146
05:55:59,100 --> 05:56:01,100
significant increases in covid

9147
05:56:01,100 --> 05:56:02,100
for our employees.

9148
05:56:02,100 --> 05:56:04,100
I think they have done a

9149
05:56:04,100 --> 05:56:06,100
excellent job in terms of a mask

9150
05:56:06,100 --> 05:56:07,100
mandate.

9151
05:56:07,100 --> 05:56:09,100
if the commission would like for

9152
05:56:09,100 --> 05:56:11,100
us to look at that further I

9153
05:56:11,100 --> 05:56:13,100
certainly can.

9154
05:56:21,100 --> 05:56:23,100
>> mayor, any other comments?

9155
05:56:23,100 --> 05:56:24,100
>> no.

9156
05:56:24,100 --> 05:56:26,100
>> I will open it up.

9157
05:56:26,100 --> 05:56:28,100
>> to the city manager, we

9158
05:56:28,100 --> 05:56:31,100
understand what is going on.

9159
05:56:32,100 --> 05:56:34,100
normally at this dinner we

9160
05:56:34,100 --> 05:56:37,100
morally get five, six hundred.

9161
05:56:40,100 --> 05:56:43,100
I'm saying normally we have five

9162
05:56:43,100 --> 05:56:44,100
to six hundred.

9163
05:56:44,100 --> 05:56:46,100
>> it varies each year.

9164
05:56:46,100 --> 05:56:48,100
it's generally three hundred to

9165
05:56:48,100 --> 05:56:50,100
five hundred employees.

9166
05:56:50,100 --> 05:56:51,100
>> we're at two hundred.

9167
05:56:51,100 --> 05:56:54,100
I'm saying, I'm just saying --

9168
05:56:54,100 --> 05:56:56,100
you think a lot of the employees

9169
05:56:56,100 --> 05:56:59,100
are nervous or spouses are

9170
05:57:01,100 --> 05:57:02,100
nervous and maybe they don't

9171
05:57:02,100 --> 05:57:06,201
want to and that's why it's --

9172
05:57:09,100 --> 05:57:12,601
>> the question to ask is do

9173
05:57:15,110 --> 05:57:16,750
people sign up prior to coming.

9174
05:57:16,750 --> 05:57:18,387
>> then my next question -- do

9175
05:57:18,387 --> 05:57:20,787
normally everybody just start

9176
05:57:21,100 --> 05:57:22,100
saying they're going the last

9177
05:57:22,100 --> 05:57:24,100
week.

9178
05:57:26,100 --> 05:57:27,100
normally or not.

9179
05:57:27,100 --> 05:57:28,100
>> yes.

9180
05:57:28,100 --> 05:57:31,100
usually you will see a sign up

9181
05:57:31,100 --> 05:57:34,100
also towards the late end.

9182
05:57:34,100 --> 05:57:36,100
there is a group of employees

9183
05:57:36,100 --> 05:57:37,100
that are concerned and won't

9184
05:57:37,100 --> 05:57:40,100
attend because of the concerns

9185
05:57:45,100 --> 05:57:46,100
with covid.

9186
05:57:46,100 --> 05:57:47,100
I believe there is a group that

9187
05:57:47,100 --> 05:57:48,100
exists.

9188
05:57:48,100 --> 05:57:51,100
>> if we cancel do we lose, I'm

9189
05:57:51,100 --> 05:57:54,100
not worried about the deposit.

9190
05:57:54,100 --> 05:57:56,100
>> if we cancel we definitely

9191
05:57:56,100 --> 05:57:58,100
will lose a significant portion

9192
05:57:58,100 --> 05:58:01,601
of the, of the funds like 75%

9193
05:58:02,100 --> 05:58:04,100
plus a cancellation fee.

9194
05:58:04,100 --> 05:58:05,100
we have not been able to

9195
05:58:05,100 --> 05:58:08,100
determine is if we postpone it

9196
05:58:08,100 --> 05:58:11,100
or move it to another date if

9197
05:58:11,100 --> 05:58:13,100
there is a financial implication

9198
05:58:13,100 --> 05:58:14,100
for that.

9199
05:58:14,100 --> 05:58:17,601
>> I'm just saying I mean --

9200
05:58:18,100 --> 05:58:20,100
they are your employees.

9201
05:58:20,100 --> 05:58:22,100
I'm just saying.

9202
05:58:22,100 --> 05:58:24,100
we had a little burst in one

9203
05:58:24,100 --> 05:58:25,100
department.

9204
05:58:25,100 --> 05:58:28,100
we had a little burst.

9205
05:58:30,100 --> 05:58:32,100
we know summer camp with the

9206
05:58:32,100 --> 05:58:35,100
kids had a bust at the very end.

9207
05:58:35,100 --> 05:58:39,201
I'm saying it's not a false hood

9208
05:58:44,100 --> 05:58:45,100
to say it's rising again.

9209
05:58:45,100 --> 05:58:47,100
I got vaccinated.

9210
05:58:47,100 --> 05:58:50,100
my brother got vaccinated and he

9211
05:58:50,100 --> 05:58:52,100
got it yes, he works in a

9212
05:58:52,100 --> 05:58:55,100
hospital but, then my nephew did

9213
05:58:55,100 --> 05:58:56,100
summer camp.

9214
05:58:56,100 --> 05:59:00,100
so I'm saying is, I mean I

9215
05:59:00,100 --> 05:59:04,100
don't -- I just don't I don't

9216
05:59:04,100 --> 05:59:05,100
mind for myself.

9217
05:59:05,100 --> 05:59:08,100
I don't want to put 500

9218
05:59:08,100 --> 05:59:09,100
employees.

9219
05:59:09,100 --> 05:59:10,100
now they work for us.

9220
05:59:10,100 --> 05:59:12,100
work for you.

9221
05:59:12,100 --> 05:59:16,801
is it going to put the city as

9222
05:59:18,100 --> 05:59:21,601
far as people working and start

9223
05:59:22,100 --> 05:59:24,100
having these spurts in all

9224
05:59:24,100 --> 05:59:25,100
departments.

9225
05:59:25,100 --> 05:59:26,100
that's what I worry about.

9226
05:59:26,100 --> 05:59:28,100
individually if we were all just

9227
05:59:28,100 --> 05:59:30,100
individuals and everyone had a

9228
05:59:30,100 --> 05:59:32,401
different job and different

9229
05:59:34,100 --> 05:59:36,100
business you take a shot.

9230
05:59:36,100 --> 05:59:38,401
the same way --

9231
05:59:44,279 --> 05:59:46,279
(lost audio)

9232
05:59:56,100 --> 05:59:59,100
my nose works at west side

9233
05:59:59,100 --> 06:00:01,100
regional.

9234
06:00:02,100 --> 06:00:05,601
I'm saying it's not made up.

9235
06:00:06,000 --> 06:00:08,100
I don't know if everyone in this

9236
06:00:08,100 --> 06:00:11,100
has a broken arm and broken leg

9237
06:00:11,100 --> 06:00:12,100
and corona.

9238
06:00:12,100 --> 06:00:13,100
I don't know.

9239
06:00:13,100 --> 06:00:16,601
I'm saying I just feel --

9240
06:00:19,100 --> 06:00:22,100
>> here is the thing we as a

9241
06:00:22,100 --> 06:00:24,100
commission decide d that we were

9242
06:00:24,100 --> 06:00:26,100
not going to pursue a mask

9243
06:00:26,100 --> 06:00:28,100
mandate earlier.

9244
06:00:28,100 --> 06:00:29,100
things may of changed.

9245
06:00:29,100 --> 06:00:31,100
>> it was getting better.

9246
06:00:31,100 --> 06:00:33,100
>> I understand.

9247
06:00:33,100 --> 06:00:35,100
>> I am saying prior to today

9248
06:00:35,100 --> 06:00:38,100
it's unfair to expect the city

9249
06:00:38,100 --> 06:00:40,100
manager to make a university

9250
06:00:40,100 --> 06:00:42,100
lateral decision to implement

9251
06:00:42,100 --> 06:00:43,100
masks.

9252
06:00:43,100 --> 06:00:45,100
>> at 11:20.

9253
06:00:45,100 --> 06:00:47,100
>> or for anything else without

9254
06:00:47,100 --> 06:00:49,100
coming back to the commission.

9255
06:00:49,100 --> 06:00:51,100
>> I think the mayor was just

9256
06:00:51,100 --> 06:00:52,100
asking a question.

9257
06:00:52,100 --> 06:00:54,100
>> no.

9258
06:00:54,100 --> 06:00:56,100
>> this is the only meeting this

9259
06:00:56,100 --> 06:00:57,100
month.

9260
06:00:57,100 --> 06:00:58,100
>> he's not here.

9261
06:00:58,100 --> 06:01:00,100
>> I wish someone put it on the

9262
06:01:00,100 --> 06:01:03,601
agenda for discussion so we --

9263
06:01:06,100 --> 06:01:08,100
the city manager has been put on

9264
06:01:08,100 --> 06:01:10,100
the spot, what have you decided.

9265
06:01:10,100 --> 06:01:13,601
it's impossible to say, you know

9266
06:01:14,100 --> 06:01:16,100
staff if you want to come to

9267
06:01:16,100 --> 06:01:17,100
this dinner you have to be

9268
06:01:17,100 --> 06:01:19,100
vaccinated or a mask.

9269
06:01:19,100 --> 06:01:21,100
it's outside of the city.

9270
06:01:21,100 --> 06:01:25,201
we already put the, we put the

9271
06:01:27,100 --> 06:01:28,100
handcuffs on it.

9272
06:01:28,100 --> 06:01:30,100
>> that's an outside event.

9273
06:01:30,100 --> 06:01:32,100
>> I'm not saying we have to

9274
06:01:32,100 --> 06:01:33,100
change directions.

9275
06:01:33,100 --> 06:01:35,100
commissioner city manager have

9276
06:01:35,100 --> 06:01:36,100
you made a decision about

9277
06:01:36,100 --> 06:01:38,100
wearing masks --

9278
06:01:38,100 --> 06:01:39,100
>> I don't think.

9279
06:01:39,100 --> 06:01:42,100
I can tell by the tone he's

9280
06:01:42,100 --> 06:01:43,100
asking.

9281
06:01:43,100 --> 06:01:44,100
>> the mayor has put things on

9282
06:01:44,100 --> 06:01:46,100
the agenda tuesday morning when

9283
06:01:46,100 --> 06:01:47,100
he wants to decide it.

9284
06:01:47,100 --> 06:01:49,100
>> that's not the case.

9285
06:01:49,100 --> 06:01:50,100
commissioner, look here is the

9286
06:01:50,100 --> 06:01:51,100
reality.

9287
06:01:51,100 --> 06:01:52,100
here is the reality.

9288
06:01:52,100 --> 06:01:54,100
covid is rising here.

9289
06:01:54,100 --> 06:01:56,100
not only are the hospitals

9290
06:01:56,100 --> 06:01:58,100
cancel elective surgeries.

9291
06:01:59,100 --> 06:02:01,100
they're concerting auditoriums

9292
06:02:01,100 --> 06:02:03,100
to covid wings.

9293
06:02:03,100 --> 06:02:05,100
the question I have is whether

9294
06:02:05,100 --> 06:02:07,100
we should consider delaying the

9295
06:02:07,100 --> 06:02:09,100
employee appreciations dinner.

9296
06:02:09,100 --> 06:02:11,100
it's not a slight against our

9297
06:02:11,100 --> 06:02:12,100
employees.

9298
06:02:12,100 --> 06:02:13,100
>> that's not what you asked

9299
06:02:13,100 --> 06:02:14,100
him.

9300
06:02:14,100 --> 06:02:15,100
you asked him if he made the

9301
06:02:15,100 --> 06:02:16,100
decision --

9302
06:02:16,100 --> 06:02:17,100
[inaudible]

9303
06:02:17,100 --> 06:02:20,100
>> we're going forward, if we go

9304
06:02:20,100 --> 06:02:22,100
forward we need to protect our,

9305
06:02:22,100 --> 06:02:24,100
our staff.

9306
06:02:24,100 --> 06:02:25,100
frankly I will be straight

9307
06:02:25,100 --> 06:02:26,100
forward.

9308
06:02:26,100 --> 06:02:28,100
I do not believe we should go

9309
06:02:28,100 --> 06:02:30,100
forward with the pro*er employee

9310
06:02:30,100 --> 06:02:31,100
appreciations dinner.

9311
06:02:31,100 --> 06:02:34,601
this is my view, should inquire

9312
06:02:35,100 --> 06:02:36,100
if it can be pushed, whether

9313
06:02:36,100 --> 06:02:38,100
there is a covid clause in the

9314
06:02:38,100 --> 06:02:40,100
contract, whether there is an

9315
06:02:40,100 --> 06:02:43,100
opportunity to delay this until

9316
06:02:43,100 --> 06:02:44,100
another date when we're out of

9317
06:02:44,100 --> 06:02:46,100
this covid wave.

9318
06:02:46,100 --> 06:02:47,100
it is real.

9319
06:02:47,100 --> 06:02:48,100
>> commissioner douglas.

9320
06:02:48,100 --> 06:02:49,100
>> okay.

9321
06:02:49,100 --> 06:02:52,601
so, this is the only meeting.

9322
06:02:54,100 --> 06:02:56,100
this event is suppose to happen.

9323
06:02:56,100 --> 06:02:59,100
how much have we deposited,

9324
06:02:59,100 --> 06:03:01,100
mr. City manager woe would lose?

9325
06:03:01,100 --> 06:03:03,401
>> I believe it's around

9326
06:03:10,100 --> 06:03:11,100
$18,000.

9327
06:03:11,100 --> 06:03:12,100
>> 75% --

9328
06:03:12,100 --> 06:03:13,100
[inaudible]

9329
06:03:13,100 --> 06:03:16,100
>> we see weddings and various

9330
06:03:19,100 --> 06:03:20,100
events where people, they run a

9331
06:03:20,100 --> 06:03:22,100
business too.

9332
06:03:22,100 --> 06:03:25,100
to they're keeping that money.

9333
06:03:25,100 --> 06:03:29,201
so, are we, if we're going to

9334
06:03:30,100 --> 06:03:34,201
lose 70% -- if we show up only

9335
06:03:40,100 --> 06:03:42,100
50 people great.

9336
06:03:42,100 --> 06:03:44,100
people take their masks off in

9337
06:03:44,100 --> 06:03:45,100
restaurants.

9338
06:03:45,100 --> 06:03:48,100
we were told vaccines -- 75% of

9339
06:03:48,100 --> 06:03:50,401
adult americans have supposedly

9340
06:03:51,100 --> 06:03:52,100
been vaccinated.

9341
06:03:52,100 --> 06:03:55,100
at what point do we give people

9342
06:03:55,100 --> 06:03:57,100
the opportunity to exercise

9343
06:03:57,100 --> 06:03:58,100
personal responsibility.

9344
06:03:58,100 --> 06:04:01,100
when 110% of us are vaccinated.

9345
06:04:02,100 --> 06:04:04,100
people can choose not to go.

9346
06:04:04,100 --> 06:04:07,100
why walk away from 70% and a

9347
06:04:07,100 --> 06:04:08,100
cancellation fee.

9348
06:04:08,100 --> 06:04:10,100
people should go or not go.

9349
06:04:10,100 --> 06:04:13,100
because these same people are

9350
06:04:13,100 --> 06:04:15,100
going to restaurants.

9351
06:04:15,100 --> 06:04:17,100
I know the mayor is super scared

9352
06:04:17,100 --> 06:04:19,100
of covid and what not.

9353
06:04:19,100 --> 06:04:21,100
the mayor coming in here tonight

9354
06:04:21,100 --> 06:04:23,100
asking the city manager has he

9355
06:04:23,100 --> 06:04:25,100
made a decision about when to

9356
06:04:25,100 --> 06:04:28,100
require people require -- what

9357
06:04:28,100 --> 06:04:30,100
do you do go to the door of this

9358
06:04:30,100 --> 06:04:34,100
place and say show me a vaccine

9359
06:04:34,100 --> 06:04:35,100
card?

9360
06:04:35,100 --> 06:04:36,100
that's not a good position for

9361
06:04:36,100 --> 06:04:37,100
city manager.

9362
06:04:37,100 --> 06:04:40,100
>> you can go on-line and have

9363
06:04:40,100 --> 06:04:42,100
one printed out.

9364
06:04:42,100 --> 06:04:43,100
>> that's why I'm responding

9365
06:04:43,100 --> 06:04:45,100
this forcibly.

9366
06:04:45,100 --> 06:04:47,100
I know the mayor is uber liberal

9367
06:04:47,100 --> 06:04:49,100
on the issue or conservative

9368
06:04:49,100 --> 06:04:51,100
however you look at it I'm not

9369
06:04:51,100 --> 06:04:54,100
going to ask the city manager to

9370
06:04:54,100 --> 06:04:56,100
make a university lateral

9371
06:04:56,100 --> 06:04:57,100
decision.

9372
06:04:57,100 --> 06:04:58,100
if the commission wants to

9373
06:04:58,100 --> 06:05:00,100
direct the city manager to

9374
06:05:00,100 --> 06:05:02,401
cancel so be it.

9375
06:05:03,100 --> 06:05:06,100
don't put him in that position.

9376
06:05:06,100 --> 06:05:08,100
>> commissioner scuotto.

9377
06:05:09,100 --> 06:05:10,100
>> to me I would think

9378
06:05:10,100 --> 06:05:12,100
ultimately you would have that

9379
06:05:12,100 --> 06:05:13,100
choice.

9380
06:05:13,100 --> 06:05:17,100
but like out of the five of us

9381
06:05:17,100 --> 06:05:20,100
being your boss making you make

9382
06:05:20,100 --> 06:05:23,100
that decision, I'm just saying

9383
06:05:23,100 --> 06:05:25,100
then it has no ramifications

9384
06:05:25,100 --> 06:05:26,100
against us.

9385
06:05:26,100 --> 06:05:29,100
people are out this eating,

9386
06:05:32,100 --> 06:05:34,100
drinking, doing everything.

9387
06:05:34,100 --> 06:05:36,100
yes it's rising.

9388
06:05:36,100 --> 06:05:39,601
I don't know what it is.

9389
06:05:44,100 --> 06:05:47,100
the world can't end every time

9390
06:05:47,100 --> 06:05:48,100
something happens.

9391
06:05:48,100 --> 06:05:51,100
if everybody wants us to get

9392
06:05:51,100 --> 06:05:52,100
back to normal.

9393
06:05:52,100 --> 06:05:55,100
soy don't -- I mean it seems

9394
06:05:55,100 --> 06:05:56,100
like.

9395
06:05:56,100 --> 06:05:59,100
it seems to be like a never

9396
06:05:59,100 --> 06:06:01,100
ending right now.

9397
06:06:01,100 --> 06:06:05,100
that this is not going to just

9398
06:06:05,100 --> 06:06:06,100
end.

9399
06:06:06,100 --> 06:06:10,100
I mean right now it's the delta

9400
06:06:10,100 --> 06:06:11,100
variant.

9401
06:06:11,100 --> 06:06:12,100
in six months there will be

9402
06:06:12,100 --> 06:06:13,100
another variant.

9403
06:06:13,100 --> 06:06:14,100
>> alpha.

9404
06:06:14,100 --> 06:06:16,100
>> I'm just saying.

9405
06:06:16,100 --> 06:06:19,100
>> deputy mayor, the mayor has

9406
06:06:19,100 --> 06:06:21,100
his hand raised as well.

9407
06:06:21,100 --> 06:06:23,100
>> I will get him in a minute.

9408
06:06:23,100 --> 06:06:26,100
>> do you poll the 200 people

9409
06:06:27,100 --> 06:06:29,100
that want to come, will they

9410
06:06:29,100 --> 06:06:30,100
come.

9411
06:06:30,100 --> 06:06:32,401
will another 200 people come.

9412
06:06:33,100 --> 06:06:36,100
I am not worried about losing

9413
06:06:36,100 --> 06:06:37,100
the $20,000.

9414
06:06:37,100 --> 06:06:40,100
nobody wants to lose that.

9415
06:06:40,100 --> 06:06:42,401
can we bump it?

9416
06:06:43,100 --> 06:06:44,100
is that a option?

9417
06:06:44,100 --> 06:06:45,100
I don't want to be the one that

9418
06:06:45,100 --> 06:06:48,100
says have this and then because

9419
06:06:48,100 --> 06:06:51,100
a hundred of them or 50 not

9420
06:06:51,100 --> 06:06:52,100
going are sick and then

9421
06:06:52,100 --> 06:06:55,100
infect -- I don't know.

9422
06:06:57,100 --> 06:06:59,100
I'm going to the league of

9423
06:06:59,100 --> 06:07:00,100
cities.

9424
06:07:00,100 --> 06:07:01,100
I don't know how it will be

9425
06:07:01,100 --> 06:07:02,100
there.

9426
06:07:02,100 --> 06:07:05,601
I feel comfortable I got the

9427
06:07:08,100 --> 06:07:09,100
shot.

9428
06:07:09,100 --> 06:07:11,100
>> assistant deputy mayor

9429
06:07:11,100 --> 06:07:12,100
guzman.

9430
06:07:12,100 --> 06:07:14,100
>> at this point those who

9431
06:07:14,100 --> 06:07:15,100
signed up know the risk that

9432
06:07:15,100 --> 06:07:16,100
they're taking.

9433
06:07:16,100 --> 06:07:19,100
we know what is happening.

9434
06:07:20,100 --> 06:07:23,601
if they sign up that's their

9435
06:07:24,100 --> 06:07:26,100
prerogative.

9436
06:07:26,100 --> 06:07:28,100
given the relationship with

9437
06:07:28,100 --> 06:07:31,100
signature grain, if you push the

9438
06:07:31,100 --> 06:07:33,100
date back I don't sew why they

9439
06:07:33,100 --> 06:07:35,100
would penalize you for doing so.

9440
06:07:35,100 --> 06:07:37,100
if they want to keep business

9441
06:07:37,100 --> 06:07:38,100
they should make it work.

9442
06:07:38,100 --> 06:07:40,100
knowing the times we're in now.

9443
06:07:40,100 --> 06:07:42,100
>> they lose the date you

9444
06:07:42,100 --> 06:07:43,100
picked.

9445
06:07:43,100 --> 06:07:44,100
nobody can then of picked that

9446
06:07:44,100 --> 06:07:45,100
date.

9447
06:07:45,100 --> 06:07:48,100
>> I'm sure there is a way to

9448
06:07:48,100 --> 06:07:49,100
work it out.

9449
06:07:49,100 --> 06:07:50,100
business is business.

9450
06:07:50,100 --> 06:07:52,100
>> someone closes down my

9451
06:07:52,100 --> 06:07:54,100
restaurant friday night when I

9452
06:07:54,100 --> 06:07:55,100
can make money.

9453
06:07:55,100 --> 06:07:58,100
then they say I'm canceling but

9454
06:07:58,100 --> 06:07:59,100
my dor was shut, it's a

9455
06:07:59,100 --> 06:08:01,100
inconvenience.

9456
06:08:01,100 --> 06:08:03,100
>> you have lost supplies, you

9457
06:08:03,100 --> 06:08:05,100
have people, you have other

9458
06:08:05,100 --> 06:08:06,100
contracts.

9459
06:08:06,100 --> 06:08:07,100
>> yes.

9460
06:08:07,100 --> 06:08:08,100
someone else could of balked the

9461
06:08:08,100 --> 06:08:09,100
day.

9462
06:08:09,100 --> 06:08:10,100
I'm not faulting them.

9463
06:08:10,100 --> 06:08:12,100
they don't have anything to do

9464
06:08:12,100 --> 06:08:13,100
with it.

9465
06:08:13,100 --> 06:08:14,100
I don't know if you want to make

9466
06:08:14,100 --> 06:08:18,100
it through us or if you're going

9467
06:08:18,100 --> 06:08:19,100
to make that decision.

9468
06:08:19,100 --> 06:08:20,100
>> one second.

9469
06:08:20,100 --> 06:08:21,100
mayor ryan.

9470
06:08:21,100 --> 06:08:24,100
>> you had a 2.5% raise, you got

9471
06:08:24,100 --> 06:08:26,100
your evaluation.

9472
06:08:26,100 --> 06:08:27,100
you want to be paid the big

9473
06:08:27,100 --> 06:08:30,100
bucks, big boss, you make the

9474
06:08:30,100 --> 06:08:31,100
decisions.

9475
06:08:31,100 --> 06:08:32,100
>> mayor ryan.

9476
06:08:32,100 --> 06:08:34,100
>> I had answer to the people --

9477
06:08:34,100 --> 06:08:36,100
>> first of all I believe it's a

9478
06:08:36,100 --> 06:08:39,100
decision reserved to the city

9479
06:08:40,100 --> 06:08:41,100
manager.

9480
06:08:41,100 --> 06:08:43,100
he is making a decision what he

9481
06:08:43,100 --> 06:08:44,100
will do with his employees.

9482
06:08:44,100 --> 06:08:46,100
we can be upset.

9483
06:08:46,100 --> 06:08:49,100
we can reevaluate him this.

9484
06:08:49,100 --> 06:08:51,100
is a decision he makes for the

9485
06:08:51,100 --> 06:08:52,100
ultimate mission to make sure

9486
06:08:52,100 --> 06:08:55,100
everyone is safe irrespective of

9487
06:08:55,100 --> 06:08:56,100
personal choices.

9488
06:08:56,100 --> 06:08:59,100
second, the vaccine is not a

9489
06:08:59,100 --> 06:09:00,100
panacea.

9490
06:09:00,100 --> 06:09:03,100
by definition 1-5% of those

9491
06:09:03,100 --> 06:09:06,100
receiving pfizer will get sick

9492
06:09:07,100 --> 06:09:08,100
and die.

9493
06:09:08,100 --> 06:09:09,100
a percentage of those who could

9494
06:09:09,100 --> 06:09:11,100
of been saved will not be.

9495
06:09:11,100 --> 06:09:13,100
moreover the data now is

9496
06:09:13,100 --> 06:09:15,100
evolving those who are

9497
06:09:15,100 --> 06:09:17,100
vaccinated can transmit.

9498
06:09:17,100 --> 06:09:18,100
we have at least one officer in

9499
06:09:18,100 --> 06:09:20,401
the hospital right now.

9500
06:09:28,100 --> 06:09:30,100
(lost audio)

9501
06:09:38,100 --> 06:09:41,100
not have an employee appreciate

9502
06:09:41,100 --> 06:09:43,100
dinner reaching as many people

9503
06:09:43,100 --> 06:09:44,100
as possible.

9504
06:09:44,100 --> 06:09:46,100
the fact only two hundred have

9505
06:09:46,100 --> 06:09:49,100
signed up now after covid, all I

9506
06:09:49,100 --> 06:09:51,100
suggest is to have city staff to

9507
06:09:51,100 --> 06:09:53,100
look see if they can push the

9508
06:09:53,100 --> 06:09:55,100
date.

9509
06:09:55,100 --> 06:09:56,100
jazz fest has been moved to

9510
06:09:56,100 --> 06:09:57,100
november.

9511
06:09:57,100 --> 06:09:58,100
there are all sorts of things

9512
06:09:58,100 --> 06:10:00,100
canceled and moved because of

9513
06:10:00,100 --> 06:10:01,100
covid.

9514
06:10:01,100 --> 06:10:03,100
there are employees who have

9515
06:10:03,100 --> 06:10:05,100
talked to me who don't feel

9516
06:10:05,100 --> 06:10:06,100
comfortable going because of

9517
06:10:06,100 --> 06:10:07,100
this.

9518
06:10:07,100 --> 06:10:08,100
I certainly don't wand to find

9519
06:10:08,100 --> 06:10:11,100
out afterwards that there was a

9520
06:10:11,100 --> 06:10:12,100
spread because of this.

9521
06:10:12,100 --> 06:10:15,100
for just an appreciation dinner.

9522
06:10:15,100 --> 06:10:16,100
I know we appreciate our

9523
06:10:16,100 --> 06:10:17,100
employees.

9524
06:10:17,100 --> 06:10:19,100
everyone up here sincerely feels

9525
06:10:19,100 --> 06:10:20,100
the same way.

9526
06:10:20,100 --> 06:10:22,100
we feel strongly about our

9527
06:10:22,100 --> 06:10:23,100
employees.

9528
06:10:23,100 --> 06:10:24,100
I wonder if this is the best

9529
06:10:24,100 --> 06:10:26,100
idea in light of the current

9530
06:10:26,100 --> 06:10:27,100
data. That's all I will say.

9531
06:10:27,100 --> 06:10:29,100
whatever decision the commission

9532
06:10:29,100 --> 06:10:32,100
makes and directs that's fine.

9533
06:10:32,100 --> 06:10:34,100
I believe it's reserved to the

9534
06:10:34,100 --> 06:10:35,100
city manager.

9535
06:10:35,100 --> 06:10:37,100
>> firstly, I want to make a

9536
06:10:37,100 --> 06:10:38,100
point about that.

9537
06:10:38,100 --> 06:10:39,100
>> commissioner douglas go

9538
06:10:39,100 --> 06:10:40,100
ahead.

9539
06:10:40,100 --> 06:10:43,601
>> the staff city -- this only

9540
06:10:51,100 --> 06:10:53,100
limitation we have as a

9541
06:10:53,100 --> 06:10:55,100
commission is we can't dictate

9542
06:10:55,100 --> 06:10:57,100
who the city manager hires or

9543
06:10:57,100 --> 06:10:58,100
fires.

9544
06:10:58,100 --> 06:11:01,100
I don't want this to be a issue

9545
06:11:01,100 --> 06:11:03,100
about whether there are staff or

9546
06:11:03,100 --> 06:11:05,100
city manager staff or direct

9547
06:11:05,100 --> 06:11:08,100
them on a day to day basis.

9548
06:11:08,100 --> 06:11:10,100
this is not about that.

9549
06:11:10,100 --> 06:11:11,100
if there is a decision,

9550
06:11:11,100 --> 06:11:13,100
especially when we have lifted

9551
06:11:13,100 --> 06:11:15,100
the mask mandate, we haven't

9552
06:11:15,100 --> 06:11:17,100
changed that officially yet.

9553
06:11:17,100 --> 06:11:19,100
as to whether it should be in

9554
06:11:19,100 --> 06:11:20,100
place or not is not the

9555
06:11:20,100 --> 06:11:21,100
question.

9556
06:11:21,100 --> 06:11:24,100
we have said to him we're not

9557
06:11:24,100 --> 06:11:28,201
going -- before he chose not to

9558
06:11:29,100 --> 06:11:30,100
proceed.

9559
06:11:30,100 --> 06:11:32,100
on this very narrow issue will

9560
06:11:32,100 --> 06:11:35,100
we say, mr. City manager, it's

9561
06:11:35,100 --> 06:11:38,100
your decision to tell the staff.

9562
06:11:38,100 --> 06:11:40,100
an event outside of the city,

9563
06:11:40,100 --> 06:11:41,100
that you can't come unless you

9564
06:11:41,100 --> 06:11:42,100
wear a mask.

9565
06:11:42,100 --> 06:11:45,100
it's in consistent with what the

9566
06:11:45,100 --> 06:11:46,100
commission has said.

9567
06:11:46,100 --> 06:11:48,100
how do we tell them it's now his

9568
06:11:48,100 --> 06:11:49,100
decision.

9569
06:11:49,100 --> 06:11:51,100
no, it's not his decision to

9570
06:11:51,100 --> 06:11:52,100
make.

9571
06:11:52,100 --> 06:11:53,100
if this commission wants to be

9572
06:11:53,100 --> 06:11:56,601
bold and say, mr. City manager,

9573
06:11:59,100 --> 06:12:00,100
cancel the event.

9574
06:12:00,100 --> 06:12:01,100
then do that.

9575
06:12:01,100 --> 06:12:03,100
don't kick the ball into his lap

9576
06:12:03,100 --> 06:12:05,100
and say it's yours.

9577
06:12:05,100 --> 06:12:06,100
now the staff will be mad at

9578
06:12:06,100 --> 06:12:08,100
him.

9579
06:12:08,100 --> 06:12:11,100
that he is cherrypicking mask

9580
06:12:11,100 --> 06:12:12,100
mandates.

9581
06:12:12,100 --> 06:12:14,100
worst suggestion that we should

9582
06:12:14,100 --> 06:12:16,100
make it mandatory or you should

9583
06:12:16,100 --> 06:12:18,100
of considered whether vaccine is

9584
06:12:18,100 --> 06:12:20,100
a basis coming in.

9585
06:12:20,100 --> 06:12:22,100
that's inconsistent with the

9586
06:12:22,100 --> 06:12:24,401
mayor saying vaccination doesn't

9587
06:12:25,100 --> 06:12:27,100
stop -- medical science says it.

9588
06:12:27,100 --> 06:12:29,100
one hand he says should we have

9589
06:12:29,100 --> 06:12:31,100
them vaccinated to come.

9590
06:12:31,100 --> 06:12:33,100
at the same time he is saying oh

9591
06:12:33,100 --> 06:12:35,100
vaccine doesn't stop people from

9592
06:12:35,100 --> 06:12:37,100
being infected.

9593
06:12:37,100 --> 06:12:39,100
we know that to be true.

9594
06:12:39,100 --> 06:12:41,100
vaccine doesn't stop someone

9595
06:12:41,100 --> 06:12:44,100
from having a pathogen and

9596
06:12:48,100 --> 06:12:50,100
shedding it.

9597
06:12:50,100 --> 06:12:52,100
months ago I heard we have to

9598
06:12:52,100 --> 06:12:55,100
hold on, we have to hold on.

9599
06:12:55,100 --> 06:12:57,100
now they say 75% of the

9600
06:12:57,100 --> 06:12:58,100
population.

9601
06:12:58,100 --> 06:13:00,100
now I hear vaccine does not stop

9602
06:13:00,100 --> 06:13:01,100
the issue.

9603
06:13:01,100 --> 06:13:03,100
do we live in this world forever

9604
06:13:03,100 --> 06:13:04,100
more?

9605
06:13:04,100 --> 06:13:05,100
even with a hundred percent of

9606
06:13:05,100 --> 06:13:06,100
the people vaccinated.

9607
06:13:06,100 --> 06:13:08,100
where do we stop?

9608
06:13:08,100 --> 06:13:10,100
I don't know.

9609
06:13:10,100 --> 06:13:12,100
yo think you should take that

9610
06:13:12,100 --> 06:13:15,100
decision on your self, mr. City

9611
06:13:15,100 --> 06:13:16,100
manager.

9612
06:13:16,100 --> 06:13:17,100
I think you should ask your

9613
06:13:17,100 --> 06:13:19,100
bosses for a firm directive.

9614
06:13:19,100 --> 06:13:21,100
>> I will weight.

9615
06:13:21,100 --> 06:13:22,100
in.

9616
06:13:22,100 --> 06:13:23,100
>> -- postpone.

9617
06:13:23,100 --> 06:13:24,100
>> I will weight in really

9618
06:13:24,100 --> 06:13:25,100
quick.

9619
06:13:25,100 --> 06:13:27,100
>> I am not voting to postpone.

9620
06:13:27,100 --> 06:13:29,100
people may not attend if they

9621
06:13:29,100 --> 06:13:31,100
want, the mayor doesn't have to

9622
06:13:31,100 --> 06:13:34,100
a continued, unlikely to attend

9623
06:13:34,100 --> 06:13:35,100
anyways.

9624
06:13:35,100 --> 06:13:37,100
>> I would be supportive of

9625
06:13:37,100 --> 06:13:38,100
postponing it.

9626
06:13:38,100 --> 06:13:41,100
just based on the recent data

9627
06:13:41,100 --> 06:13:44,100
that I have seen and witnessed.

9628
06:13:44,100 --> 06:13:46,100
I would rather air on the side

9629
06:13:46,100 --> 06:13:49,100
of caution then be wrong.

9630
06:13:49,100 --> 06:13:52,100
I would like to recoup as much

9631
06:13:52,100 --> 06:13:54,100
as we can family.

9632
06:13:54,100 --> 06:13:58,201
I don't want to cancel it I

9633
06:13:59,100 --> 06:14:02,100
would rather see if we can move

9634
06:14:02,100 --> 06:14:03,100
it.

9635
06:14:03,100 --> 06:14:04,100
that is my direction or opinion

9636
06:14:04,100 --> 06:14:05,100
on the matter to consider.

9637
06:14:05,100 --> 06:14:07,100
>> deputy mayor.

9638
06:14:07,100 --> 06:14:09,100
the mayor has his hand raised

9639
06:14:09,100 --> 06:14:10,100
again.

9640
06:14:10,100 --> 06:14:11,100
>> sure.

9641
06:14:11,100 --> 06:14:13,100
I will support your decision.

9642
06:14:13,100 --> 06:14:15,100
for me I'm fine with moving it.

9643
06:14:15,100 --> 06:14:17,100
I don't see anything wrong with

9644
06:14:17,100 --> 06:14:19,100
airing on the side of caution.

9645
06:14:19,100 --> 06:14:20,100
that is my side.

9646
06:14:20,100 --> 06:14:21,100
mayor ryan.

9647
06:14:21,100 --> 06:14:24,601
>> well first I do believe it's

9648
06:14:26,100 --> 06:14:30,201
up to mr. Lubelski to decide to

9649
06:14:37,100 --> 06:14:38,100
postponing it.

9650
06:14:38,100 --> 06:14:40,100
I would move for him tonight to

9651
06:14:40,100 --> 06:14:42,100
postpone the appreciations

9652
06:14:44,100 --> 06:14:45,100
dinner.

9653
06:14:45,100 --> 06:14:46,100
separately I would like to

9654
06:14:46,100 --> 06:14:48,100
discuss whether there should be

9655
06:14:48,100 --> 06:14:49,100
a mask mandate in the buildings

9656
06:14:49,100 --> 06:14:51,100
in light of the cdc

9657
06:14:51,100 --> 06:14:53,100
recommendations and what has

9658
06:14:53,100 --> 06:14:55,401
evolved mask mandates including

9659
06:14:56,100 --> 06:14:58,100
the broward county school board.

9660
06:14:58,100 --> 06:15:00,100
at the same time I would applaud

9661
06:15:00,100 --> 06:15:02,100
their courage today to vote for

9662
06:15:02,100 --> 06:15:04,401
a mask mandate notwithstanding

9663
06:15:05,100 --> 06:15:06,100
the threats of the governor to

9664
06:15:06,100 --> 06:15:08,100
eliminate funding or stop their

9665
06:15:08,100 --> 06:15:10,100
own salaries.

9666
06:15:10,100 --> 06:15:12,401
first the employee appreciation

9667
06:15:16,100 --> 06:15:19,100
dinner, I would move, I would

9668
06:15:19,100 --> 06:15:22,100
move to postpone it I am happy

9669
06:15:22,100 --> 06:15:25,100
to debate whether I'm consistent

9670
06:15:25,100 --> 06:15:27,100
or not consistent about

9671
06:15:27,100 --> 06:15:28,100
vaccines.

9672
06:15:28,100 --> 06:15:30,100
I don't think that's a relevant

9673
06:15:30,100 --> 06:15:31,100
issue.

9674
06:15:31,100 --> 06:15:32,100
>> there is a motion by mayor

9675
06:15:32,100 --> 06:15:35,100
ryan to move at employee

9676
06:15:35,100 --> 06:15:36,100
appreciations dinner.

9677
06:15:36,100 --> 06:15:37,100
is there a second?

9678
06:15:37,100 --> 06:15:38,100
>> I will second it.

9679
06:15:38,100 --> 06:15:40,100
>> second by commissioner

9680
06:15:41,100 --> 06:15:43,100
scuotto.

9681
06:15:44,100 --> 06:15:45,100
call a question on this.

9682
06:15:45,100 --> 06:15:48,601
>> I wonder what is ms. Guzman.

9683
06:15:49,100 --> 06:15:51,100
we're discussing it.

9684
06:15:51,100 --> 06:15:53,100
we would rather know we will

9685
06:15:53,100 --> 06:15:56,100
make the decision or we make the

9686
06:15:56,100 --> 06:15:57,100
decision to give it to

9687
06:15:57,100 --> 06:15:59,100
mr. Lubelski.

9688
06:16:00,100 --> 06:16:01,100
I mean --

9689
06:16:01,100 --> 06:16:04,100
>> I think the mayor has made a

9690
06:16:04,100 --> 06:16:05,100
motion to direct the city

9691
06:16:05,100 --> 06:16:07,100
manager to postpone the employee

9692
06:16:07,100 --> 06:16:09,100
appreciations dinner.

9693
06:16:09,100 --> 06:16:11,100
I think that's the motion if I'm

9694
06:16:11,100 --> 06:16:12,100
correct.

9695
06:16:12,100 --> 06:16:14,100
is that correct, mayor?

9696
06:16:14,100 --> 06:16:16,100
>> yes, sir.

9697
06:16:16,100 --> 06:16:17,100
>> okay.

9698
06:16:17,100 --> 06:16:18,100
so discussion on the motion.

9699
06:16:18,100 --> 06:16:19,100
that's all.

9700
06:16:19,100 --> 06:16:20,100
>> discussion on the motion.

9701
06:16:20,100 --> 06:16:22,100
>> so.

9702
06:16:23,100 --> 06:16:25,100
>> assistant department utility

9703
06:16:25,100 --> 06:16:27,100
mayor guzman.

9704
06:16:27,100 --> 06:16:29,100
>> do you feel confident making

9705
06:16:29,100 --> 06:16:30,100
that decision to the staff.

9706
06:16:30,100 --> 06:16:32,100
how do you feel about it?

9707
06:16:32,100 --> 06:16:35,100
>> as city manager I caution to

9708
06:16:35,100 --> 06:16:37,100
you take that into your lap.

9709
06:16:37,100 --> 06:16:38,100
>> I brought this back to the

9710
06:16:38,100 --> 06:16:39,100
commission.

9711
06:16:39,100 --> 06:16:41,100
I intended to bring it up during

9712
06:16:41,100 --> 06:16:42,100
my report because of the

9713
06:16:42,100 --> 06:16:44,100
previous direction regarding

9714
06:16:44,100 --> 06:16:47,100
masks to get their feedback.

9715
06:16:49,100 --> 06:16:50,100
>> you're asking us for

9716
06:16:50,100 --> 06:16:51,100
feedback.

9717
06:16:51,100 --> 06:16:52,100
>> yes.

9718
06:16:52,100 --> 06:16:53,100
>> that's your answer now.

9719
06:16:53,100 --> 06:16:55,100
>> yes, I prefer feed back.

9720
06:16:55,100 --> 06:16:57,100
>> would you feel comfortable.

9721
06:16:57,100 --> 06:16:58,100
I'm standing because I have been

9722
06:16:58,100 --> 06:17:00,100
sitting for six hours.

9723
06:17:00,100 --> 06:17:01,100
I'm not standing to be over

9724
06:17:01,100 --> 06:17:03,100
powering or anything.

9725
06:17:04,100 --> 06:17:08,100
so, would you feel -- I'm just

9726
06:17:08,100 --> 06:17:09,100
asking.

9727
06:17:09,100 --> 06:17:10,100
would you feel comfortable if we

9728
06:17:10,100 --> 06:17:12,100
postpone it to give maybe this

9729
06:17:12,100 --> 06:17:14,100
would go down.

9730
06:17:14,100 --> 06:17:16,100
I'm just -- I'm just asking in

9731
06:17:16,100 --> 06:17:17,100
general.

9732
06:17:17,100 --> 06:17:19,100
>> I think we should make a

9733
06:17:19,100 --> 06:17:20,100
decision.

9734
06:17:20,100 --> 06:17:21,100
give him the direction.

9735
06:17:21,100 --> 06:17:22,100
if he does it he's doing

9736
06:17:22,100 --> 06:17:24,100
something inconsistent with

9737
06:17:24,100 --> 06:17:26,100
previous decision that's we have

9738
06:17:26,100 --> 06:17:27,100
made.

9739
06:17:27,100 --> 06:17:29,100
>> but see I will tell you, we

9740
06:17:29,100 --> 06:17:31,100
were all here that day.

9741
06:17:31,100 --> 06:17:33,100
he wanted us to have masks

9742
06:17:33,100 --> 06:17:35,100
mandated in the building.

9743
06:17:35,100 --> 06:17:38,100
we told him, we over ruled him.

9744
06:17:38,100 --> 06:17:41,100
but the people in this building

9745
06:17:41,100 --> 06:17:43,100
probably 90% of them wear a

9746
06:17:43,100 --> 06:17:44,100
mask.

9747
06:17:44,100 --> 06:17:46,100
where as if you go to the public

9748
06:17:46,100 --> 06:17:48,401
safety building 20% of the

9749
06:17:54,100 --> 06:17:56,100
people wear a mask there.

9750
06:17:56,100 --> 06:17:57,100
is a big difference of someone

9751
06:17:57,100 --> 06:17:59,401
listening, observing, or doing

9752
06:18:00,100 --> 06:18:02,100
the right thing for themselves

9753
06:18:02,100 --> 06:18:04,100
or others doing what they want.

9754
06:18:04,100 --> 06:18:08,801
>> so, I mean -- I just say that

9755
06:18:10,100 --> 06:18:12,100
if we have always gotten five

9756
06:18:12,100 --> 06:18:14,100
hundred people and now we have

9757
06:18:14,100 --> 06:18:17,100
two hundred obviously a lot of

9758
06:18:17,100 --> 06:18:20,100
people are think ing about it.

9759
06:18:20,100 --> 06:18:21,100
okay.

9760
06:18:21,100 --> 06:18:22,100
that's all I'm saying.

9761
06:18:22,100 --> 06:18:24,100
a lot of people think about it.

9762
06:18:24,100 --> 06:18:26,100
we're 350 less.

9763
06:18:26,100 --> 06:18:29,601
I'm not saying the 200 that want

9764
06:18:30,100 --> 06:18:31,100
to go don't care.

9765
06:18:31,100 --> 06:18:33,100
they're just willing to get g.

9766
06:18:33,100 --> 06:18:35,100
out and enjoy themselves.

9767
06:18:35,100 --> 06:18:36,100
they figure it won't happen or

9768
06:18:36,100 --> 06:18:37,100
affect them.

9769
06:18:37,100 --> 06:18:41,100
I just -- I'm good for myself.

9770
06:18:41,100 --> 06:18:44,100
I accept what I do.

9771
06:18:46,100 --> 06:18:48,100
it's tough to make a decision

9772
06:18:48,100 --> 06:18:50,100
about someone else's life by

9773
06:18:50,100 --> 06:18:52,100
putting them all in a room for a

9774
06:18:52,100 --> 06:18:54,100
party.

9775
06:18:55,100 --> 06:18:58,100
I don't want that to be on me.

9776
06:18:58,100 --> 06:19:02,201
I'm not saying for to you make

9777
06:19:03,100 --> 06:19:04,100
the decision.

9778
06:19:04,100 --> 06:19:06,100
if you're asking.

9779
06:19:09,100 --> 06:19:10,100
you say we should make the

9780
06:19:10,100 --> 06:19:13,100
decision and not mark, then I'm

9781
06:19:13,100 --> 06:19:16,601
making the decision to say --

9782
06:19:17,100 --> 06:19:18,100
>> then call the question.

9783
06:19:18,100 --> 06:19:19,100
>> alright.

9784
06:19:19,100 --> 06:19:20,100
this is early.

9785
06:19:20,100 --> 06:19:22,100
>> hold on.

9786
06:19:22,100 --> 06:19:24,100
anymore comment?

9787
06:19:24,100 --> 06:19:26,100
anyone, colleagues have more

9788
06:19:26,100 --> 06:19:27,100
comments?

9789
06:19:27,100 --> 06:19:29,100
>> same just asking the city

9790
06:19:29,100 --> 06:19:30,100
manager, do you feel

9791
06:19:30,100 --> 06:19:33,100
uncomfortable if you now have to

9792
06:19:33,100 --> 06:19:36,100
tell the 200 people that we're

9793
06:19:36,100 --> 06:19:37,100
not going.

9794
06:19:37,100 --> 06:19:40,100
do you think we will get massive

9795
06:19:40,100 --> 06:19:43,100
backlash and people going out of

9796
06:19:43,100 --> 06:19:46,100
their mind or say alright I

9797
06:19:46,100 --> 06:19:48,100
understand covid got a little

9798
06:19:48,100 --> 06:19:49,100
kicked up.

9799
06:19:49,100 --> 06:19:50,100
I don't mind waiting.

9800
06:19:50,100 --> 06:19:52,100
I just --

9801
06:19:52,100 --> 06:19:54,401
>> I think generally our

9802
06:19:55,100 --> 06:19:56,100
employees are understanding.

9803
06:19:56,100 --> 06:19:58,100
they will understand either

9804
06:19:58,100 --> 06:19:59,100
direction of the commission.

9805
06:19:59,100 --> 06:20:00,100
>> okay.

9806
06:20:00,100 --> 06:20:01,100
>> then I make a motion.

9807
06:20:01,100 --> 06:20:03,100
I second the motion about the

9808
06:20:03,100 --> 06:20:05,100
mayor said about postponing.

9809
06:20:05,100 --> 06:20:07,100
(lost audio)

9810
06:20:20,483 --> 06:20:23,000
>> anyone on the phone to make a

9811
06:20:23,000 --> 06:20:24,100
comment regarding the city

9812
06:20:24,100 --> 06:20:26,401
commission's motion to postpone

9813
06:20:28,100 --> 06:20:30,100
the employee appreciations

9814
06:20:30,100 --> 06:20:31,100
dinner.

9815
06:20:31,100 --> 06:20:32,100
>> calling in?

9816
06:20:32,100 --> 06:20:34,100
>> anyone out there wanting

9817
06:20:34,100 --> 06:20:35,100
public comments.

9818
06:20:35,100 --> 06:20:36,100
alright I will close public

9819
06:20:36,100 --> 06:20:37,100
hearing.

9820
06:20:37,100 --> 06:20:38,100
we can call the question then.

9821
06:20:38,100 --> 06:20:40,100
>> deputy mayor.

9822
06:20:41,100 --> 06:20:42,100
>> yes,.

9823
06:20:42,100 --> 06:20:44,100
>> what --

9824
06:20:44,100 --> 06:20:47,601
>> the motion is to postpone the

9825
06:20:50,100 --> 06:20:53,100
employee appreciations din for a

9826
06:20:55,100 --> 06:20:56,100
later date.

9827
06:20:56,100 --> 06:20:58,100
nothing to do with masks at this

9828
06:20:58,100 --> 06:20:59,100
point.

9829
06:20:59,100 --> 06:21:00,100
this is a motion to postpone the

9830
06:21:00,100 --> 06:21:02,100
employee appreciation dinner.

9831
06:21:03,100 --> 06:21:05,100
call the question.

9832
06:21:06,100 --> 06:21:07,100
>> deputy mayor.

9833
06:21:07,100 --> 06:21:08,100
>> yes,.

9834
06:21:08,100 --> 06:21:10,100
>> commissioner scuotto.

9835
06:21:11,100 --> 06:21:12,100
>> yes.

9836
06:21:12,100 --> 06:21:14,100
>> commissioner douglas.

9837
06:21:14,100 --> 06:21:15,100
>> no.

9838
06:21:15,100 --> 06:21:17,100
>> assistant deputy mayor.

9839
06:21:17,100 --> 06:21:18,100
>> no.

9840
06:21:18,100 --> 06:21:19,100
>> mayor.

9841
06:21:19,100 --> 06:21:20,100
>> yes.

9842
06:21:20,100 --> 06:21:21,100
>> motion caries 3-2 to

9843
06:21:21,100 --> 06:21:22,100
postpone.

9844
06:21:22,100 --> 06:21:25,100
>> the mayor want to discuss a

9845
06:21:25,100 --> 06:21:28,100
mask mandate he can call a

9846
06:21:28,100 --> 06:21:29,100
special meeting.

9847
06:21:29,100 --> 06:21:31,100
>> I'm prepared to discuss it

9848
06:21:31,100 --> 06:21:34,100
tonight if you want to call a

9849
06:21:34,100 --> 06:21:36,100
special meeting I'm happy to do

9850
06:21:36,100 --> 06:21:37,100
that as well.

9851
06:21:37,100 --> 06:21:38,100
I will get with kim.

9852
06:21:38,100 --> 06:21:40,100
I don't think we have weeks to

9853
06:21:40,100 --> 06:21:41,100
make the decision in light of

9854
06:21:41,100 --> 06:21:43,100
the fact that broward county has

9855
06:21:43,100 --> 06:21:45,100
issued a mask mandate in

9856
06:21:45,100 --> 06:21:47,401
government buildings, the cdc

9857
06:21:49,100 --> 06:21:51,401
recommend people wear masks.

9858
06:21:52,100 --> 06:21:53,100
we are seeing a broad

9859
06:21:53,100 --> 06:21:55,100
recommendation for those

9860
06:21:55,100 --> 06:21:57,401
vaccinated should wear masks.

9861
06:21:58,100 --> 06:21:59,100
we have implemented in my law

9862
06:21:59,100 --> 06:22:01,100
everyone wearing a mask whether

9863
06:22:01,100 --> 06:22:03,100
vaccinated or not.

9864
06:22:03,100 --> 06:22:05,100
I don't believe there should be

9865
06:22:05,100 --> 06:22:06,100
a lesser standard in the

9866
06:22:06,100 --> 06:22:07,100
government buildings.

9867
06:22:07,100 --> 06:22:09,100
I'm prepared to discuss it.

9868
06:22:09,100 --> 06:22:11,100
if the will of the commission is

9869
06:22:11,100 --> 06:22:13,100
to hold this for a special

9870
06:22:13,100 --> 06:22:14,100
meeting to be called I will work

9871
06:22:14,100 --> 06:22:16,100
with the city clerk and city

9872
06:22:16,100 --> 06:22:17,100
attorney office to call a

9873
06:22:17,100 --> 06:22:18,100
special meeting.

9874
06:22:18,100 --> 06:22:21,100
>> I would say if the city

9875
06:22:21,100 --> 06:22:23,100
manager wants to send an e-mail

9876
06:22:23,100 --> 06:22:25,100
to all employees or if the chief

9877
06:22:25,100 --> 06:22:27,100
of police wants to send a letter

9878
06:22:27,100 --> 06:22:30,100
to awful his employees, not

9879
06:22:31,100 --> 06:22:34,100
directing a mandate, offering it

9880
06:22:35,100 --> 06:22:38,100
as just a information whatever

9881
06:22:40,100 --> 06:22:42,100
that has just been said by the

9882
06:22:42,100 --> 06:22:43,100
mayor.

9883
06:22:43,100 --> 06:22:46,601
that the cdc, the county, and

9884
06:22:47,100 --> 06:22:50,100
all of those -- I'm saying as a

9885
06:22:50,100 --> 06:22:51,100
informational.

9886
06:22:51,100 --> 06:22:53,100
>> I agree with you.

9887
06:22:53,100 --> 06:22:55,100
there comes a point we have to

9888
06:22:55,100 --> 06:22:57,100
move away from directing people

9889
06:22:57,100 --> 06:22:58,100
they have to.

9890
06:22:58,100 --> 06:23:00,100
>> can we ask the employees.

9891
06:23:00,100 --> 06:23:02,100
can we find out what the

9892
06:23:02,100 --> 06:23:04,100
employees feel?

9893
06:23:04,100 --> 06:23:05,100
what the majority is.

9894
06:23:05,100 --> 06:23:08,100
>> no public health policy is

9895
06:23:08,100 --> 06:23:10,100
not based on whether people want

9896
06:23:10,100 --> 06:23:11,100
to wear a mask.

9897
06:23:11,100 --> 06:23:13,100
it's whether to protect them.

9898
06:23:13,100 --> 06:23:14,100
that's our obligation.

9899
06:23:14,100 --> 06:23:17,100
I understand it's difficult if

9900
06:23:17,100 --> 06:23:18,100
people want to move to personal

9901
06:23:18,100 --> 06:23:19,100
responsibility.

9902
06:23:19,100 --> 06:23:21,100
we also have a obligation to our

9903
06:23:21,100 --> 06:23:23,100
staff and the public.

9904
06:23:23,100 --> 06:23:25,100
I think we need to address the

9905
06:23:25,100 --> 06:23:27,100
mask mandate --

9906
06:23:27,100 --> 06:23:28,100
[inaudible]

9907
06:23:28,100 --> 06:23:29,100
>> hold on.

9908
06:23:29,100 --> 06:23:31,100
>> point of order.

9909
06:23:31,100 --> 06:23:34,100
I don't want to recess at 11:45.

9910
06:23:34,100 --> 06:23:36,100
>> sorry.

9911
06:23:36,100 --> 06:23:37,100
>> I don't want to recess until

9912
06:23:37,100 --> 06:23:40,100
we can come back to order.

9913
06:23:40,100 --> 06:23:42,100
everyone is talking at the same

9914
06:23:42,100 --> 06:23:43,100
time.

9915
06:23:43,100 --> 06:23:44,100
>> my apology.

9916
06:23:44,100 --> 06:23:46,100
all I'm saying is --

9917
06:23:46,100 --> 06:23:47,100
>> getting talked over.

9918
06:23:47,100 --> 06:23:48,100
go ahead.

9919
06:23:48,100 --> 06:23:50,100
>> hold on.

9920
06:23:51,100 --> 06:23:52,100
let's take a breather.

9921
06:23:52,100 --> 06:23:54,100
one person at a time.

9922
06:23:54,100 --> 06:23:56,100
mayor ryan, you have the floor.

9923
06:23:56,100 --> 06:23:57,100
then commissioner douglas will

9924
06:23:57,100 --> 06:23:58,100
have the floor.

9925
06:23:58,100 --> 06:24:00,100
mayor ryan, go ahead.

9926
06:24:00,100 --> 06:24:03,601
>> I was not in favor of

9927
06:24:05,100 --> 06:24:07,100
reducing the mask mandate.

9928
06:24:07,100 --> 06:24:09,100
mark was in support the time the

9929
06:24:09,100 --> 06:24:11,100
commission directed him

9930
06:24:11,100 --> 06:24:12,100
otherwise.

9931
06:24:12,100 --> 06:24:14,100
I understand the data is where

9932
06:24:14,100 --> 06:24:15,100
it was then.

9933
06:24:15,100 --> 06:24:17,100
what we are facing today is not

9934
06:24:17,100 --> 06:24:19,100
last year's covid.

9935
06:24:19,100 --> 06:24:20,100
it's a delta variant.

9936
06:24:20,100 --> 06:24:22,100
would I love to move beyond

9937
06:24:22,100 --> 06:24:23,100
this.

9938
06:24:23,100 --> 06:24:24,100
perm responsibility is not a

9939
06:24:24,100 --> 06:24:27,100
public health policy no matter

9940
06:24:27,100 --> 06:24:29,100
what the state leaders say.

9941
06:24:29,100 --> 06:24:31,100
we have an obligation that the

9942
06:24:31,100 --> 06:24:34,100
county, cdc and local businesses

9943
06:24:34,100 --> 06:24:36,100
are doing to protect our

9944
06:24:36,100 --> 06:24:37,100
employees and visitors.

9945
06:24:37,100 --> 06:24:39,100
I believe we should institute a

9946
06:24:39,100 --> 06:24:42,100
mask mandate in the government

9947
06:24:42,100 --> 06:24:45,100
buildings as has been done this.

9948
06:24:45,100 --> 06:24:47,100
is not novel.

9949
06:24:47,100 --> 06:24:49,100
the city manager has the

9950
06:24:49,100 --> 06:24:51,100
authority on his own, without

9951
06:24:51,100 --> 06:24:52,100
direction from the city

9952
06:24:52,100 --> 06:24:53,100
commission to do that.

9953
06:24:53,100 --> 06:24:54,100
it should remain.

9954
06:24:54,100 --> 06:24:56,100
I am moving for a mask mandate

9955
06:24:56,100 --> 06:24:59,100
in our buildings for the public

9956
06:24:59,100 --> 06:25:01,401
and for our staff.

9957
06:25:02,100 --> 06:25:05,100
you can move aside the issue of

9958
06:25:05,100 --> 06:25:06,100
consequences for it and all of

9959
06:25:06,100 --> 06:25:08,100
the issues about discipline we

9960
06:25:08,100 --> 06:25:11,100
should issue the mask mandate.

9961
06:25:11,100 --> 06:25:13,100
>> first of all this is not just

9962
06:25:13,100 --> 06:25:14,100
about staff this.

9963
06:25:14,100 --> 06:25:16,100
is about the public and the

9964
06:25:16,100 --> 06:25:17,100
public's ability.

9965
06:25:17,100 --> 06:25:18,100
I have seen the public.

9966
06:25:18,100 --> 06:25:21,100
the day after we lifted the mask

9967
06:25:21,100 --> 06:25:23,100
mandate --

9968
06:25:23,939 --> 06:25:25,939
(lost audio)

9969
06:25:39,000 --> 06:25:41,100
- they came with their mask.

9970
06:25:41,100 --> 06:25:43,100
when they realized there was no

9971
06:25:43,100 --> 06:25:46,100
mandate -- these people made

9972
06:25:46,100 --> 06:25:48,100
personal choices in this rom

9973
06:25:48,100 --> 06:25:49,100
tonight we have personal choices

9974
06:25:49,100 --> 06:25:50,100
being made.

9975
06:25:50,100 --> 06:25:53,100
assistant deputy mayor has a

9976
06:25:53,100 --> 06:25:55,100
mask on.

9977
06:25:55,100 --> 06:25:58,100
other have masks on, I see

9978
06:25:58,100 --> 06:25:59,100
police officers that do and some

9979
06:25:59,100 --> 06:26:00,100
don't.

9980
06:26:00,100 --> 06:26:01,100
personal choice.

9981
06:26:01,100 --> 06:26:03,100
at what point if it's up to the

9982
06:26:03,100 --> 06:26:06,100
mayor we would live in a chamber

9983
06:26:06,100 --> 06:26:07,100
for the next five years.

9984
06:26:07,100 --> 06:26:09,100
that's his view on this thing.

9985
06:26:09,100 --> 06:26:10,100
the end of the day is it going

9986
06:26:10,100 --> 06:26:14,201
to be a new vaccine, a triple

9987
06:26:15,100 --> 06:26:17,100
vaccine, what is -- what is

9988
06:26:17,100 --> 06:26:20,100
going to be the point at which

9989
06:26:20,100 --> 06:26:23,100
we decide that people now get

9990
06:26:23,100 --> 06:26:26,100
to -- we don't live in russia or

9991
06:26:26,100 --> 06:26:29,601
china. You talk about we should

9992
06:26:31,100 --> 06:26:33,100
put mandates on people because

9993
06:26:33,100 --> 06:26:35,401
they're not responsible enough

9994
06:26:36,100 --> 06:26:38,100
to take personal responsibility.

9995
06:26:38,100 --> 06:26:40,100
that we need, we can't give them

9996
06:26:40,100 --> 06:26:41,100
the choice.

9997
06:26:41,100 --> 06:26:43,100
we need to impose it on them.

9998
06:26:43,100 --> 06:26:45,100
that's what I'm hearing.

9999
06:26:45,100 --> 06:26:47,100
they're to immature to make

10000
06:26:47,100 --> 06:26:48,100
their own choices whether to

10001
06:26:48,100 --> 06:26:50,100
wear a mask or not.

10002
06:26:50,100 --> 06:26:52,100
we have to mandate it on them.

10003
06:26:52,100 --> 06:26:53,100
I don't agree with that.

10004
06:26:53,100 --> 06:26:55,100
this is america that. Is the

10005
06:26:55,100 --> 06:26:56,100
american way.

10006
06:26:56,100 --> 06:26:58,100
people can make that decision.

10007
06:26:58,100 --> 06:27:01,100
officer 75% and in fact 75% is

10008
06:27:03,100 --> 06:27:05,100
above the threshold that

10009
06:27:05,100 --> 06:27:07,100
supposedly will give us herd

10010
06:27:07,100 --> 06:27:09,100
immunity.

10011
06:27:10,100 --> 06:27:12,100
after 75% we're still hearing

10012
06:27:12,100 --> 06:27:14,100
oh, it's not going to be the

10013
06:27:14,100 --> 06:27:15,100
vaccine.

10014
06:27:15,100 --> 06:27:17,100
what will it be?

10015
06:27:17,100 --> 06:27:19,100
cheri pie?

10016
06:27:19,100 --> 06:27:22,100
so, anyways mr. City manager f

10017
06:27:22,100 --> 06:27:24,100
you think you have the ability

10018
06:27:24,100 --> 06:27:25,100
to make that decision on your

10019
06:27:25,100 --> 06:27:27,401
own please go ahead.

10020
06:27:28,100 --> 06:27:30,100
I don't agree that the city

10021
06:27:30,100 --> 06:27:31,100
manager should be given that

10022
06:27:31,100 --> 06:27:33,100
responsibility we should take it

10023
06:27:33,100 --> 06:27:34,100
on.

10024
06:27:34,100 --> 06:27:35,100
we're the ones people elected.

10025
06:27:35,100 --> 06:27:38,100
if we're making, if people are

10026
06:27:38,100 --> 06:27:40,100
listening to me now in four

10027
06:27:40,100 --> 06:27:42,100
years they can say that douglas

10028
06:27:42,100 --> 06:27:43,100
didn't do enough to protect our

10029
06:27:43,100 --> 06:27:44,100
community.

10030
06:27:44,100 --> 06:27:46,100
we are voting him out.

10031
06:27:46,100 --> 06:27:48,100
they didn't elect the city

10032
06:27:48,100 --> 06:27:49,100
manager.

10033
06:27:49,100 --> 06:27:51,100
let's us take the heat for it.

10034
06:27:51,100 --> 06:27:52,100
>> there is a motion pending.

10035
06:27:52,100 --> 06:27:54,100
>> commissioner scuotto.

10036
06:27:55,100 --> 06:27:58,100
>> he's in the building working

10037
06:27:58,100 --> 06:27:59,100
every day, we're not.

10038
06:27:59,100 --> 06:28:02,601
if he feels 300 people are in

10039
06:28:03,100 --> 06:28:05,100
the building, 200 are vaccinated

10040
06:28:05,100 --> 06:28:07,100
and 100 are not.

10041
06:28:07,100 --> 06:28:11,100
if he wants to protect -- wait.

10042
06:28:11,100 --> 06:28:13,100
>> -- this mask mandate is for

10043
06:28:13,100 --> 06:28:14,100
the public also.

10044
06:28:14,100 --> 06:28:16,100
it's not just staff.

10045
06:28:16,100 --> 06:28:18,100
when there is a mask mandate the

10046
06:28:18,100 --> 06:28:20,100
public has to do the same.

10047
06:28:20,100 --> 06:28:22,100
>> -- they're working in the

10048
06:28:22,100 --> 06:28:23,100
building.

10049
06:28:23,100 --> 06:28:24,100
he wants to feel comfortable

10050
06:28:24,100 --> 06:28:25,100
with the people.

10051
06:28:25,100 --> 06:28:27,100
>> are you suggesting we have a

10052
06:28:27,100 --> 06:28:28,100
mandate for staff but the public

10053
06:28:28,100 --> 06:28:30,100
gets to choose what they want to

10054
06:28:30,100 --> 06:28:31,100
do.

10055
06:28:31,100 --> 06:28:32,100
>> we will get back to the same

10056
06:28:32,100 --> 06:28:33,100
thing that happened in the

10057
06:28:33,100 --> 06:28:34,100
beginning.

10058
06:28:34,100 --> 06:28:36,100
we were the first cities to shut

10059
06:28:36,100 --> 06:28:38,100
down because the county didn't

10060
06:28:38,100 --> 06:28:39,100
want to shut down.

10061
06:28:39,100 --> 06:28:42,100
the county wanted to open we

10062
06:28:42,100 --> 06:28:43,100
were the last to open.

10063
06:28:43,100 --> 06:28:45,100
it will start again.

10064
06:28:45,100 --> 06:28:47,100
whether we're together as 31

10065
06:28:47,100 --> 06:28:49,100
municipalities or everyone does

10066
06:28:49,100 --> 06:28:51,100
their own thing.

10067
06:28:51,100 --> 06:28:53,100
that's the problem we can't

10068
06:28:53,100 --> 06:28:54,100
agree on everything.

10069
06:28:54,100 --> 06:28:56,100
everyone does their own thing.

10070
06:28:56,100 --> 06:28:57,100
>> this isn't just about staff.

10071
06:28:57,100 --> 06:29:00,100
when we have a city wide mandate

10072
06:29:00,100 --> 06:29:02,100
it affects the public using the

10073
06:29:02,100 --> 06:29:03,100
building.

10074
06:29:03,100 --> 06:29:04,100
are we prepared to tell the

10075
06:29:04,100 --> 06:29:06,100
public they now have to come

10076
06:29:06,100 --> 06:29:08,100
here wearing a mask.

10077
06:29:08,100 --> 06:29:11,601
the city manager, when this came

10078
06:29:12,100 --> 06:29:14,100
up the city manager said I have

10079
06:29:14,100 --> 06:29:16,100
the authority to deal with my

10080
06:29:16,100 --> 06:29:17,100
staff.

10081
06:29:17,100 --> 06:29:18,100
I want to hear from the

10082
06:29:18,100 --> 06:29:19,100
commission about imposing it for

10083
06:29:19,100 --> 06:29:21,100
the public.

10084
06:29:21,100 --> 06:29:22,100
>> those behind the public

10085
06:29:22,100 --> 06:29:24,100
service counter have a mask.

10086
06:29:24,100 --> 06:29:26,100
now the residents come up to

10087
06:29:26,100 --> 06:29:28,100
them with no mask.

10088
06:29:28,100 --> 06:29:30,100
I'm saying maybe our employees

10089
06:29:30,100 --> 06:29:32,100
are not feeling comfortable.

10090
06:29:32,100 --> 06:29:35,100
>> let's call a spade a spade.

10091
06:29:35,100 --> 06:29:37,100
a virus is so tiny you can't see

10092
06:29:37,100 --> 06:29:40,100
it with a micro scope.

10093
06:29:41,100 --> 06:29:44,100
you have to use a special micro

10094
06:29:44,100 --> 06:29:45,100
scope.

10095
06:29:45,100 --> 06:29:46,100
do you think the masks protect

10096
06:29:46,100 --> 06:29:47,100
us?

10097
06:29:47,100 --> 06:29:48,100
>> no.

10098
06:29:48,100 --> 06:29:49,100
>> this is false safety.

10099
06:29:49,100 --> 06:29:52,100
the virus flies through that.

10100
06:29:52,100 --> 06:29:55,100
we're all wrapped up in a mask.

10101
06:29:55,100 --> 06:29:57,100
who has one on that side and

10102
06:29:57,100 --> 06:29:58,100
this side.

10103
06:29:58,100 --> 06:30:00,100
it's false security.

10104
06:30:00,100 --> 06:30:02,100
we, we probably have all taken

10105
06:30:02,100 --> 06:30:04,100
basic science and know that

10106
06:30:04,100 --> 06:30:06,100
viruses are smaller than

10107
06:30:06,100 --> 06:30:08,100
bacterias.

10108
06:30:08,100 --> 06:30:10,100
you can't see it with a regular

10109
06:30:10,100 --> 06:30:11,100
micro scope.

10110
06:30:11,100 --> 06:30:15,100
what makes us think a cloth mask

10111
06:30:15,100 --> 06:30:17,100
or these things we put on

10112
06:30:17,100 --> 06:30:18,100
protect us?

10113
06:30:18,100 --> 06:30:19,100
then it's not the vaccine.

10114
06:30:19,100 --> 06:30:22,100
if we can't be protected --

10115
06:30:22,100 --> 06:30:23,100
>> mayor ryan, I would say to

10116
06:30:23,100 --> 06:30:27,201
end this, I would leave it to

10117
06:30:28,100 --> 06:30:30,100
the two chiefs in the back of

10118
06:30:30,100 --> 06:30:31,100
the room for what they want to

10119
06:30:31,100 --> 06:30:33,401
do in their building.

10120
06:30:34,100 --> 06:30:36,100
city manager you have whatever

10121
06:30:36,100 --> 06:30:38,100
right in your building until

10122
06:30:38,100 --> 06:30:40,100
someone calls a special meeting

10123
06:30:40,100 --> 06:30:42,100
and puts it on the agenda and

10124
06:30:42,100 --> 06:30:44,100
we're going to do a vote.

10125
06:30:44,100 --> 06:30:47,100
would I just say you have

10126
06:30:47,100 --> 06:30:49,100
whatever information that just

10127
06:30:49,100 --> 06:30:52,100
came out today from cdc, the

10128
06:30:52,100 --> 06:30:54,401
county, the school board,

10129
06:30:55,100 --> 06:30:56,100
whatever.

10130
06:30:56,100 --> 06:30:57,100
put your sign up in the window

10131
06:30:57,100 --> 06:30:59,100
if you feel and the same with

10132
06:30:59,100 --> 06:31:01,100
the two chiefs to do the same.

10133
06:31:01,100 --> 06:31:03,100
that if they feel comfortable

10134
06:31:03,100 --> 06:31:06,601
saying due to these times until

10135
06:31:07,100 --> 06:31:09,100
we figure out if we're doing a

10136
06:31:09,100 --> 06:31:12,100
mask mandate but if we can't

10137
06:31:12,100 --> 06:31:15,100
come to an agreement tonight to

10138
06:31:15,100 --> 06:31:18,100
do a mandate or whatever then I

10139
06:31:18,100 --> 06:31:19,100
would just leave it to you as

10140
06:31:19,100 --> 06:31:22,100
the person of this building and

10141
06:31:22,100 --> 06:31:25,601
then -- not only for this

10142
06:31:26,100 --> 06:31:27,100
building and every other

10143
06:31:27,100 --> 06:31:29,100
municipality building that other

10144
06:31:29,100 --> 06:31:30,100
people are at.

10145
06:31:30,100 --> 06:31:32,401
leisure services or whatever.

10146
06:31:33,100 --> 06:31:35,100
for now until we can have a

10147
06:31:35,100 --> 06:31:36,100
special meeting.

10148
06:31:36,100 --> 06:31:39,601
to figure out what it is.

10149
06:31:40,100 --> 06:31:42,100
>> commissioner scuotto, I

10150
06:31:43,100 --> 06:31:44,100
appreciate that.

10151
06:31:44,100 --> 06:31:46,100
thank you for that suggestion.

10152
06:31:46,100 --> 06:31:49,100
I want to be, I want to be

10153
06:31:49,100 --> 06:31:50,100
clear.

10154
06:31:50,100 --> 06:31:52,100
my request for a mask mandate is

10155
06:31:52,100 --> 06:31:53,100
not unamerican.

10156
06:31:53,100 --> 06:31:56,100
this is not me wanting to be

10157
06:31:56,100 --> 06:31:57,100
russia.

10158
06:31:57,100 --> 06:31:59,100
it's not unpatriotic to request

10159
06:31:59,100 --> 06:32:01,100
a mask mandate.

10160
06:32:01,100 --> 06:32:03,100
the suggestion of that is

10161
06:32:03,100 --> 06:32:06,100
hyperbole at best and offensive

10162
06:32:07,100 --> 06:32:08,100
at worst.

10163
06:32:08,100 --> 06:32:10,100
I understand --

10164
06:32:10,100 --> 06:32:13,100
>> what I said your principle of

10165
06:32:13,100 --> 06:32:15,100
imposing on people because you

10166
06:32:15,100 --> 06:32:16,100
think --

10167
06:32:16,100 --> 06:32:17,100
>> you're interrupting.

10168
06:32:17,100 --> 06:32:19,401
>> -- that's the portion.

10169
06:32:20,100 --> 06:32:21,100
[inaudible]

10170
06:32:21,100 --> 06:32:23,100
>> alright.

10171
06:32:23,100 --> 06:32:24,100
please.

10172
06:32:24,100 --> 06:32:25,100
>> that again --

10173
06:32:25,100 --> 06:32:26,100
>> hold on.

10174
06:32:26,100 --> 06:32:27,100
the mayor has the floor.

10175
06:32:27,100 --> 06:32:29,100
>> mayor ryan, we don't go

10176
06:32:29,100 --> 06:32:30,100
around and around.

10177
06:32:30,100 --> 06:32:33,100
>> mr. Scuotto, the mayor has

10178
06:32:34,100 --> 06:32:35,100
the floor.

10179
06:32:35,100 --> 06:32:36,100
I will recognize you next.

10180
06:32:36,100 --> 06:32:37,100
mayor ryan.

10181
06:32:37,100 --> 06:32:38,100
>> that proves my point.

10182
06:32:38,100 --> 06:32:40,100
that is what is consuming the

10183
06:32:40,100 --> 06:32:42,100
nation and our state.

10184
06:32:42,100 --> 06:32:45,100
I am requesting this mask

10185
06:32:45,100 --> 06:32:46,100
mandate not because I'm

10186
06:32:46,100 --> 06:32:49,100
unamerican or I want to dictate.

10187
06:32:49,100 --> 06:32:51,100
these are the same arguments

10188
06:32:51,100 --> 06:32:54,100
made in 1918 pandemic, and the

10189
06:32:54,100 --> 06:32:56,100
people who said no this isn't

10190
06:32:56,100 --> 06:32:57,100
what we should do.

10191
06:32:57,100 --> 06:32:59,100
it turns out we haven't

10192
06:32:59,100 --> 06:33:02,100
progressed in a hundred years in

10193
06:33:02,100 --> 06:33:03,100
that regard.

10194
06:33:03,100 --> 06:33:04,100
based on what the school board

10195
06:33:04,100 --> 06:33:07,100
has done, county, cdc, local

10196
06:33:07,100 --> 06:33:10,100
businesses are doing what we

10197
06:33:10,100 --> 06:33:11,100
should do to protect the mission

10198
06:33:11,100 --> 06:33:13,100
is very basic.

10199
06:33:13,100 --> 06:33:15,100
it's a request and mandate a

10200
06:33:15,100 --> 06:33:16,100
mask be worn.

10201
06:33:16,100 --> 06:33:18,100
we can address the issues what

10202
06:33:18,100 --> 06:33:20,100
happens if it isn't.

10203
06:33:20,100 --> 06:33:23,601
our job is to protect employees.

10204
06:33:25,100 --> 06:33:26,100
I believe mark has the

10205
06:33:26,100 --> 06:33:28,100
responsibility and obligation

10206
06:33:28,100 --> 06:33:29,100
and authority.

10207
06:33:29,100 --> 06:33:31,100
I will admit it is difficult for

10208
06:33:31,100 --> 06:33:33,100
the city manager.

10209
06:33:33,100 --> 06:33:35,100
when we leave here tonight if

10210
06:33:35,100 --> 06:33:38,100
one or more of us are in

10211
06:33:38,100 --> 06:33:39,100
disagreement with mark decides

10212
06:33:39,100 --> 06:33:42,100
he will get an earful.

10213
06:33:42,100 --> 06:33:44,100
he will get grief in all sorts

10214
06:33:44,100 --> 06:33:45,100
of ways.

10215
06:33:45,100 --> 06:33:46,100
so, this is the problem of

10216
06:33:46,100 --> 06:33:49,100
simply saying give it to mark to

10217
06:33:49,100 --> 06:33:51,100
make a decision.

10218
06:33:51,100 --> 06:33:52,100
I think that's a fare point if

10219
06:33:52,100 --> 06:33:54,100
we can agree he has the

10220
06:33:54,100 --> 06:33:56,100
authority to do it without

10221
06:33:56,100 --> 06:33:57,100
interference.

10222
06:33:57,100 --> 06:33:59,100
I believe we should mandate as

10223
06:33:59,100 --> 06:34:01,100
has been done in other cities

10224
06:34:01,100 --> 06:34:02,100
and counties.

10225
06:34:02,100 --> 06:34:03,100
that's my motion.

10226
06:34:03,100 --> 06:34:04,100
>> alright.

10227
06:34:04,100 --> 06:34:08,100
so I have one more comment, mr.

10228
06:34:08,100 --> 06:34:10,100
the mayor is a very smart man.

10229
06:34:10,100 --> 06:34:13,601
I had give that to him.

10230
06:34:20,100 --> 06:34:22,100
(lost audio)

10231
06:34:30,100 --> 06:34:32,100
or yesterday or last friday.

10232
06:34:32,100 --> 06:34:34,100
it has been rising record

10233
06:34:34,100 --> 06:34:36,401
numbers since last week.

10234
06:34:37,100 --> 06:34:39,100
clearly it was a concern for the

10235
06:34:39,100 --> 06:34:40,100
mayor.

10236
06:34:40,100 --> 06:34:42,100
the mayor would have had this

10237
06:34:42,100 --> 06:34:44,100
notion that I want to bring to

10238
06:34:44,100 --> 06:34:46,100
this commission that we should

10239
06:34:46,100 --> 06:34:47,100
change directions.

10240
06:34:47,100 --> 06:34:48,100
which is fine.

10241
06:34:48,100 --> 06:34:50,100
if you're not prepared to change

10242
06:34:50,100 --> 06:34:51,100
your mind on something you

10243
06:34:51,100 --> 06:34:53,100
shouldn't govern.

10244
06:34:54,100 --> 06:34:55,100
you will ambush this evening

10245
06:34:55,100 --> 06:34:57,100
without putting it on.

10246
06:34:57,100 --> 06:35:00,100
then expect just for us to just

10247
06:35:00,100 --> 06:35:01,100
vote because we're under

10248
06:35:01,100 --> 06:35:02,100
pressure.

10249
06:35:02,100 --> 06:35:03,100
no, you could of put it on.

10250
06:35:03,100 --> 06:35:05,100
you put on many things the day

10251
06:35:05,100 --> 06:35:07,100
of a commission meeting.

10252
06:35:07,100 --> 06:35:08,100
yellow sheets and all.

10253
06:35:08,100 --> 06:35:10,100
then you make it look like, oh

10254
06:35:10,100 --> 06:35:12,100
you phis are not looking to

10255
06:35:12,100 --> 06:35:13,100
protect staff.

10256
06:35:13,100 --> 06:35:14,100
you could of put it on.

10257
06:35:14,100 --> 06:35:15,100
you know what you did.

10258
06:35:15,100 --> 06:35:17,100
you wanted to back us in the

10259
06:35:17,100 --> 06:35:18,100
corner today.

10260
06:35:18,100 --> 06:35:20,100
I'm not going to make that

10261
06:35:20,100 --> 06:35:22,100
pressure make me make that

10262
06:35:22,100 --> 06:35:23,100
decision.

10263
06:35:23,100 --> 06:35:25,100
>> I would say.

10264
06:35:25,100 --> 06:35:27,100
>> scuotto.

10265
06:35:28,100 --> 06:35:31,601
>> -- we don't even have to

10266
06:35:32,100 --> 06:35:33,100
direct.

10267
06:35:33,100 --> 06:35:34,100
you can hear what we're saying.

10268
06:35:34,100 --> 06:35:36,401
call a special meeting.

10269
06:35:37,100 --> 06:35:39,100
I'm not going to be here for the

10270
06:35:39,100 --> 06:35:40,100
rest of the week.

10271
06:35:40,100 --> 06:35:41,100
so --

10272
06:35:41,100 --> 06:35:43,100
>> it's the mayor's job to call

10273
06:35:43,100 --> 06:35:46,100
a special meeting or the thee of

10274
06:35:46,100 --> 06:35:47,100
us request it.

10275
06:35:47,100 --> 06:35:48,100
>> hold on.

10276
06:35:48,100 --> 06:35:49,100
taking order of this.

10277
06:35:49,100 --> 06:35:50,100
I would like to comment

10278
06:35:50,100 --> 06:35:51,100
sometime.

10279
06:35:51,100 --> 06:35:54,100
you guys just keep going.

10280
06:35:54,100 --> 06:35:55,100
>> okay.

10281
06:35:55,100 --> 06:35:57,100
I'm standing here --

10282
06:35:57,100 --> 06:35:59,100
>> sorry. Do you have comments?

10283
06:35:59,100 --> 06:36:00,100
>> no.

10284
06:36:00,100 --> 06:36:03,601
>> I'm not prepared to make a

10285
06:36:06,100 --> 06:36:08,100
vote on a mask mandate this

10286
06:36:08,100 --> 06:36:09,100
evening.

10287
06:36:09,100 --> 06:36:10,100
I don't know the legal

10288
06:36:10,100 --> 06:36:11,100
repercussions or what will

10289
06:36:11,100 --> 06:36:12,100
happen.

10290
06:36:12,100 --> 06:36:14,100
I want to talk with kim, speak

10291
06:36:14,100 --> 06:36:16,100
with the city manager.

10292
06:36:16,100 --> 06:36:17,100
that's my position.

10293
06:36:17,100 --> 06:36:19,100
I'm in position of having a

10294
06:36:19,100 --> 06:36:20,100
special meeting when the mayor

10295
06:36:20,100 --> 06:36:21,100
calls that.

10296
06:36:21,100 --> 06:36:25,100
I'm not in a position to vote on

10297
06:36:25,100 --> 06:36:27,100
a mask mandate this evening.

10298
06:36:27,100 --> 06:36:29,100
not saying I won't vote next

10299
06:36:29,100 --> 06:36:30,100
week.

10300
06:36:30,100 --> 06:36:32,100
I'm not in this position.

10301
06:36:32,100 --> 06:36:33,100
for point of order mayor ryan

10302
06:36:33,100 --> 06:36:35,401
has made a motion.

10303
06:36:39,100 --> 06:36:41,100
do I open this to public comment

10304
06:36:41,100 --> 06:36:42,100
with a motion.

10305
06:36:42,100 --> 06:36:44,100
>> I don't think I heard a

10306
06:36:44,100 --> 06:36:45,100
second.

10307
06:36:45,100 --> 06:36:46,100
>> alright.

10308
06:36:46,100 --> 06:36:50,100
is from a second on that motion?

10309
06:36:50,100 --> 06:36:52,100
is there a second on the motion?

10310
06:36:52,100 --> 06:36:54,100
hearing no second the motion

10311
06:36:54,100 --> 06:36:55,100
fails.

10312
06:36:55,100 --> 06:36:57,100
>> motion to adjourn.

10313
06:36:57,100 --> 06:36:59,100
>> hold on we have a couple of

10314
06:36:59,100 --> 06:37:00,100
items.

10315
06:37:00,100 --> 06:37:01,100
>> .

10316
06:37:01,100 --> 06:37:02,100
what.

10317
06:37:02,100 --> 06:37:03,100
>> there is city manager report.

10318
06:37:03,100 --> 06:37:05,100
first of all my report.

10319
06:37:05,100 --> 06:37:06,100
I wave.

10320
06:37:06,100 --> 06:37:07,100
city manager report.

10321
06:37:07,100 --> 06:37:08,100
>> no report.

10322
06:37:08,100 --> 06:37:09,100
>> thank you.

10323
06:37:09,100 --> 06:37:10,100
>> city clerk report.

10324
06:37:10,100 --> 06:37:12,100
>> no report.

10325
06:37:12,100 --> 06:37:13,100
>> city attorney report.

10326
06:37:13,100 --> 06:37:15,100
>> I won't give a report, thank

10327
06:37:15,100 --> 06:37:16,100
you.

10328
06:37:16,100 --> 06:37:19,100
>> is there any other business

10329
06:37:19,100 --> 06:37:21,100
on tonight's agenda or a motion.

10330
06:37:21,100 --> 06:37:23,100
>> motion to adjourn.

10331
06:37:23,100 --> 06:37:25,100
>> motion to adjourn by

10332
06:37:25,100 --> 06:37:26,100
commissioner douglas.

10333
06:37:26,100 --> 06:37:29,100
>> no, I want to make sure that

10334
06:37:29,100 --> 06:37:30,100
until we have the meeting that

10335
06:37:30,100 --> 06:37:33,100
we leave it up to the two chiefs

10336
06:37:33,100 --> 06:37:35,100
for their building, and to

10337
06:37:35,100 --> 06:37:37,100
mr. Lubelski.

10338
06:37:38,100 --> 06:37:41,100
not about a mandate but posting

10339
06:37:41,100 --> 06:37:43,100
what has happened whatever.

10340
06:37:43,100 --> 06:37:45,100
>> the city manager said earlier

10341
06:37:45,100 --> 06:37:47,100
that people have, we have

10342
06:37:47,100 --> 06:37:49,401
acknowledged that people have

10343
06:37:50,100 --> 06:37:53,601
largely been going by the, I

10344
06:37:54,100 --> 06:37:56,100
guess you call it the directive.

10345
06:37:56,100 --> 06:37:58,100
hey, it's in your interest to

10346
06:37:58,100 --> 06:37:59,100
wear a mask.

10347
06:37:59,100 --> 06:38:01,100
think people are largely doing

10348
06:38:01,100 --> 06:38:02,100
that.

10349
06:38:02,100 --> 06:38:04,401
the chief back there.

10350
06:38:05,100 --> 06:38:07,100
he's in a uniquely strong

10351
06:38:07,100 --> 06:38:08,100
position with a military

10352
06:38:08,100 --> 06:38:09,100
structure.

10353
06:38:09,100 --> 06:38:10,100
I tell you what to do.

10354
06:38:10,100 --> 06:38:11,100
do you it.

10355
06:38:11,100 --> 06:38:12,100
I'm the chief.

10356
06:38:12,100 --> 06:38:14,100
you're the deputy chief.

10357
06:38:14,100 --> 06:38:15,100
you're the major.

10358
06:38:15,100 --> 06:38:17,100
you're the lieutenant.

10359
06:38:17,100 --> 06:38:18,100
you're the sergeant.

10360
06:38:18,100 --> 06:38:19,100
you know you follow orders.

10361
06:38:19,100 --> 06:38:21,100
I don't think it should be too

10362
06:38:21,100 --> 06:38:24,100
difficult for him to get people.

10363
06:38:24,100 --> 06:38:27,100
mr. Fire chief, please help us.

10364
06:38:27,100 --> 06:38:29,100
>> I think it's without saying

10365
06:38:29,100 --> 06:38:31,100
the city manager and city --

10366
06:38:31,100 --> 06:38:34,100
>> you won't get your 2.5% if

10367
06:38:34,100 --> 06:38:35,100
you don't speak up.

10368
06:38:35,100 --> 06:38:37,100
>> I have a family.

10369
06:38:37,100 --> 06:38:38,100
I have to go.

10370
06:38:38,100 --> 06:38:40,100
>> we need a motion to adjourn

10371
06:38:40,100 --> 06:38:42,100
when commissioner scuotto.

10372
06:38:46,100 --> 06:38:47,100
>> motion to adjourn.

10373
06:38:47,100 --> 06:38:48,100
>> seconds.

10374
06:38:48,100 --> 06:38:49,100
>> all in favor.

10375
06:38:49,100 --> 06:38:50,100
>> I.

10376
06:38:50,100 --> 06:38:52,100
>> meeting is adjourned.

10377
06:38:52,100 --> 06:38:54,100
thank you, everyone.