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Are you ready, Tim?
>> Um I am ready.

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» Okay. Do you want to call the meeting to
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15, 2026?

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Roll call.
>> Um Mayor Mark Fry

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» here.
>> Carol Lind Huber

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» here.
>> Zachary Liieber

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» here. Kate Fischer
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» Tim Burns, zoning administrator
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» And Jeff Schaff is excused tonight.

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» So, we need uh for the architecture
renew uh review, we need the approval of

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the minutes of June 10th, 2026.
>> I make a motion that we approve the

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meeting minutes from June 10th.
>> I make a second.

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All in favor say I.
>> I.

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» Motion carried on that. Then we have the
um regulation sign application number

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14-2026
by Muhammad A.

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Muhammad you are you on?
>> I have him on. He's just um he does not

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have his uh microphone on. Okay.
So, it's for uh 6363 Monroe Street, uh

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Pilates by V, a proposed sign, and a new
wall sign.

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» I'm guessing he can get There we go.
Maybe he's on there. Muhammad, are you

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there?
Yes. Give me one second. Have a little

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» technical difficulties here,
but I'm here. Just my my video isn't

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working.
There you go. I think I got it to work.

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Do I look good enough for you guys?

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» Always.
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» everything look okay on this one, Tim?
>> Yeah, there's no objections from the

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signing office. Everything meets within
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2026.
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» Zach's first. Carol second. Um, all in
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» I.
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» Thank you, Muhammad. So, the next one,
you're actually up on two also.

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» Yes, ma'am.
>> Okay. So that's the regulation sign app

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number 15-2026
for Zayn's uh Lebanese Grill on McCord.

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Is this this a new sign then? Right.
>> Um yeah, it's going to go adjacent to

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the current sign.

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» Jim, does this mean zoning code? The
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» Any questions?
Have a motion for approval.

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» I'll make a motion to approve uh number
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2026.

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» Second.
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» Thank you.
>> Any questions?

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All in favor say I.
>> I.

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» The motion approved. Sign approved.
Thank you.

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» Thanks.
>> We appreciate that.

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» You guys are welcome to free baklava.
Just don't tell them I sent you.

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» Thank you very much.
>> Thank you.

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» Tim, is there any additions?
>> There are no additions.

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So we can uh have a motion for adjourn.
>> I'll make a motion that we adjourn.

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» Second.
>> Mark second. All in favor say I.

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» I.
>> Architectural review adjourned.

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Tim, can you let us know when we're
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um
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I'm not sure why.
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had somebody from 7-Eleven
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I think kind of the kind of it's both
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lot split. Um but um I don't know if
Matt Dwood would or representative of

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the property is here.

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I don't believe Matt Dwood's here, but
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our client uh 7-Eleven.

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So I think that that probably can answer
everything on the lot split. The SUP is

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well that pro you can represent the use
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» Yes. Yep. That's what I'm here for.
>> Okay. Then I think we're good to go.

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» So So Tim, tell us about the lot split.
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going on here.
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uh it's there there's essentially two
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Um it's the north end of um and I cannot
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it's the what is always referred to for
me as the major magic plaza. Um the uh

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north end of it has an entrance and exit
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essentially
positioned pretty much in the middle of

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the property exiting out to Alexis or
entering in from Alexis. Um on the

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northeast side, uh the proposal is to
split um the right side of the parking

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lot off
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portion of the building. They actually
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the building. Um the southern the
southern portion of the right aid

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building would become the new lot line
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building would be tore down as part of
this um uh process that they're going

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through um for the uh fuel station and
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So physically the layout of this is
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building down. Correct.
>> Right. Which

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» yes is attached to the rest of that
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it'll it'll have a separate fire break.
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a exhibits and things if we need that.
Yeah. Can you just state your name

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again? Um and your representation?
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representing our client 7-Eleven and um
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Ltd.

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» uh did we not get through that? That
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roll call, Kristen, please?
>> Roll call. Uh Mayor Mark Fry

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» here.
>> Carol Lind Hoover

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>> Zachary Liieber

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>> Kate Fischer

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» And Jeff Chef is excused.

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We do need to the approval of the
minutes from June 10th.

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» Thank you.
>> Make a motion to approve the meeting

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minutes for the meeting of June 10th,
2026.

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» So moved.

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» All in favor say I.
>> I. I. Hi.

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So Tim, you want me to We have item
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lot split.
>> Does that go first before the

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» sub three?
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» Okay.
>> They they essentially go hand in hand.

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Um the SUP cannot happen without the lot
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So I think that's that's the reason to
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of the SU.
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again, Tim, this lot split is
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they're knocking down the right a
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They're building um the facility
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be created and it would be what
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corner closest to the Dunkin Donuts.
Would that the whole way to Alexis? Is

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that how that would work?
>> That's a good description of it. Yeah.

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» Okay.
>> So, that's actually sub four, right? for

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» the application.

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» Let me look at see which one's which.

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» Yeah, but the lot split's got to come
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» Okay,
>> we're going to approve it.

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» But it's basically the same location.
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» it's the same location. Yeah. Yeah.
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and when we get to the other lots, but
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which would be the seven brew side.
The seven brew side does not need a SU.

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» Um from the city side, it's a it's a
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on the engineering side on the
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moving forward um it looks like it's all
viable. Um, as you know, there was a

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similar approach before and there was a
a big concentration on the traffic study

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that was involved in it in this
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intentional use of this split um being a
fuel station um works. But for right

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now, the the proposal is just the split.

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» How big is this parcel, Tim? when if the
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» I do not know if I know that.
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» can answer that question.
>> Maybe Taylor can answer the question.

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» Yes, I've got it here as

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I'm seeing 9.95. That must be the whole
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um plaza. Let's see.

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» Yeah, I would guess it's like about an
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» Yeah, that's what I would think too.
>> Knowing the size of it, but I'm looking

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to see if it's like in the
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that the remaining parcel will be 7.658.
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» Yep.
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exclude the seven brew portion because
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There's going to be there's at the end
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this process.
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the final outcome
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well.
PZ or Craig was on. [laughter]

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» So if you said that was that was seven.
It says it ends with seven. So yeah, it

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might be like one and a half and one or
one and a half and a half. The seven

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brew property is not very big.
>> It looks like 1.57 acres.

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» Yeah, it's got 1.57. I just saw that.
Thank you.

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» Yeah, Zach. Thank you.

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» So Kate, you're looking for a motion. I
am open for a motion on the application

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for the um which one are we doing? The
transfer and lot split item one.

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I I'll make a motion
to um approve the application for the

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transfer and lot split at uh 5800 Monroe
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uh planning commission
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» Make a second.

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» Any questions?
Additional comments. All in favor say I.

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» I.
>> I.

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» I.
That. Stock split's been approved.

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So the next one we go to then is
actually item number five. Right. So the

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um sub4 for the same property at 5890
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» Correct.
>> Okay. Well, it it would there's a lot

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split in front of it. Correct.

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» Well, I was given a
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» Yeah, it actually looks like Metamora
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for number four.
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there's the second partial split that I
I get you could go to SUP3 now or

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there's the se the second split if you
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» Oh, I see it. There's
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There's two splits. So the other split
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is the northwest corner of this same
area of the plaza parking lot. So if

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where Elliot Road comes in is uh the at
the light um same light that is the

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ingress egress for this plaza to the
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northwest corner the proposal is to
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» seven 7.773
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anybody's is here to represent it. I can
speak on its behalf of my knowledge, but

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» but so th so this secondary split,
>> we don't know what's going there. Is

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that correct, Tim?
>> There is a proposal. The proposal is a

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seven brew coffee. Um the proposal,
>> but that's not in front of us today.

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So the seven brew coffee would be it
would not require any type of um

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approval from the board until they get
into architectural. So they would they

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would come to the board for
architectural review.

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» Right. But that's not in front of us. So
all we're looking at is another split.

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Correct.
>> Another split. Um the split all the

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requirements are are met. There are no
objections from the city. Um

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I think that's
>> okay. So then I'll make a motion to

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approve parcel split number two uh as
the application

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u for 5800 Monroe Street of um for as uh
provided in the Sylvania Municipal

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Planning Commission
um agenda.

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» Second.

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» All in favor say I.
>> I.

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So the second split was approved.

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» Okay.

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Now Kate, you were asking about whether
we wanted to jump to the

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to the SUP number four,
>> right? With the same property. Mhm.

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» Is that for the um That's the Speedway
or uh 7-Eleven one, correct?

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» Yep.
>> The 7-Eleven.

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» I think that makes sense since he's here
to represent that.

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» Yeah, I Mr. Reed is here to for the
other one perhaps, too. But

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» Yep. I cannot see unfortunately. I can't
see who's present.

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» Yeah. Well, he he was here a few minutes
ago. I don't know if he's still here.

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» I'm still here. Yes.
>> Okay. Thank you for your patience, sir.

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So, um,
Taylor, I think are you still here?

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» Yes. Yep. I'm sorry.
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Kate, if you're okay with us.
>> Yeah, we're okay.

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Just keep it.
So, are we doing item number five, the

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amended sub4?
>> Yeah. Yeah, I think that makes the most

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sense. Okay.
So, that is still at 5890 Monroe Street.

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» Yes.
>> Okay.

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And this is where the 7-Eleven's going
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» Yes.
>> So, we need a special use permit for

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fuel. Is that what we're doing?
>> Yes.

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» Okay.

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So, Taylor, tell us about I mean I I
know what a 7-Eleven looks like. I saw

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the pictures. Um
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» So, how many pumps are you looking at?
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Um 37 parking spaces. The convenience
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square ft approximately.

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» Is it open 24/7 or is it closed?
um 247.

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Um I do have some pictures as well.
>> Tim, does that

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does that um follow zoning um 247 in
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» I just actually sent a
um email up to Leslie asking that

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question. I think that's part of the SUP
approval at council, I believe, but I'm

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not fuel stations may have an exclusion
to that. Um, I just I I I tried to find

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that out. Um, and I sent it up to Leslie
and did not see like a clean response.

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But what so that's one of the questions
obviously that needs to be

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handled because I don't
think anything else there is open 24/7

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in that vicinity. Not necessarily saying
that's a bad thing. Um but but I maybe

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down the road um one of the other gas
pumps. The um

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the other thing, Taylor, is it is this
going to be prepared to have electric

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vehicle charging
or are there going to be charging

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stations involved? I don't remember
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» It is not.
>> So, just straight up pumps.

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» Yep.
>> And a convenience store.

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» Yeah. So, we have um Oh.

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Did we lose volume?
>> Um, can you see the PowerPoint?

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» Yep.
>> Yeah.

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» Okay.
So, yeah, the site will be located here.

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Um, part of that ride will be
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and then here is the layout with Alexis
Road to the shown to the right here and

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um the parking lot up above

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and the six pumps up towards Alexis Road
with the convenience store behind it.

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And then here's the uh 7-Eleven
architectural

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drawings here. And then the pumps in the
canopy,

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the monument sign,

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Tim, thank you for the picture's worth
thousand words. Um, so we apprec I

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appreciate that. So Tim, the um
does the SUP

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or do do we require like a bond to be
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um a facility like this at this point in
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» Not that I'm aware of in any way.
>> Okay.

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Taylor, do you know if that's something
that's that the owners of the state

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because I don't know whether se this is
a franchise or whether this is you know

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actually 7-Eleven the company or what
the terminology here is. Can you speak

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to whether they post bonds for
remediation of any tank uh removal for

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the future?
>> Um I would have to double check. I

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believe they do.
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but I would have to double check on
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um, I would also have to double check if
this is going to be a franchisee or a

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corporateowned store.
>> Yeah. cuz cuz the concern that that I

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have, I can't speak for other members
just fundamentally is we've had to go

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get grant money in the past to remediate
some property in the city for stuff. Um,

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and I'm not saying that this place isn't
going to be here for the next 250 years.

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But I'm guessing the if the 7-Eleven's
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that's why I was asking, you know, don't
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the hook for that.
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The only thing that I noticed that I
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if we have two
retail users potentially coming in here

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and creates a lot of traffic, that turn
is a little tight there. And like if you

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get car stacking to get out there on
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I know it's already going through some
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» yeah. So
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side
>> for the site approval that will go

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through engineering
>> as as a portion of this. Um the initial

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look at it um meets the city's
requirement as far as the egress out to

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Alexis
and I think within private property to

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some extent if it backs up on their way
out I'm not sure that that's the city's

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issue. Um as long as it's not backing up
on the way in. We have to keep we have

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to keep the streets open is what we're
that's the whole importance of it. Um

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you know I I would assume that there
might be a push to get essentially off

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of this new lot that is being developed.
There may be a push that the traffic has

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to go clear to the south
to go north if you will

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for that reason. for that exact reason
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» Makes sense.

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» But that that'll definitely get reviewed
on the engineer side that that is

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something the engineers and our our
engineers specifically they pay really

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tight attention to. Um as if if you were
aware there was another proposal for a

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fuel station about I don't know about
six month eight months ago. Um, and the

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project never went forward because they
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to meet our traffic standards.
So, so that'll definitely get reviewed.

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» So, so Tim, is this something we can put
a contingency on

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or make a recommendation to council?
So the the re the response from

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uh the board would be um it could be
yeah it could typically it's a it's a

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response of council um
um but it can come with recommendations.

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I guess I think that's what you're
asking.

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This motion's up to somebody else. I'm
not going to make this motion.

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[laughter]
So, if if everybody's thinking,

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» do you want to Mark, do you want to add
because the motion is basically just

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referring it back. We approve it, refer
back to the council. Yeah,

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» we provide a recommendation, but but
based on what Tim said, we can al the

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recommendation could include
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recommended conditions as well.
>> Yeah. So, if you wanted to um well on a

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lot split
at the end of the day, if the lot split

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is approved,
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it's a it's a split. It's it's divided.
I think the only way if you wanted to

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from what I heard in in the
[clears throat] communic or the

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discussion is the one thing that that
maybe could be paid attention to would

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be that that traffic patterning. Am I am
I accurate in picking that up?

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Would that I guess would that be the the
one thing that everybody would like to

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see or are there [clears throat] other
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» and the 24our
information [clears throat] I think with

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the
>> Yeah. So, um I think the recommendation

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could be made um conditional upon
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already within
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uh use of a fuel station and this
particular zone classification

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which doesn't open it up for greater
than I think the normal hours I think

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are I think is it I think it's two I
want to say it's two

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I think it's like 2 to 5 is when things
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» Yeah,
this seems more and more like a stretch

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for this meeting without the
clarification of whether this is even

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allowed to be open 24.
>> Yeah. So, it can be tabled with with a

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request for a response back to this from
the city for

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um any information that that you would
like to hear or see.

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» Yeah. So, so then uh then I'll make a
motion in this regard. I'd make a motion

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to table SUP 4
2026

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uh until we get information from the
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uh
the ability of of this to operate 24

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hours. And also
the the provision that there be um or

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information from the from the applicant
on

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whether bonds would be posted for
remediation of the tanks in the future.

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» Okay. Yep. That was another great point.
Okay. Um the third discussion point

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which I I mentioned or Zach mentioned
and brought up about the the ingress

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egress. Um that would have to be um
it could be split with a stipulation

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that there's a no traffic or or um um
>> I'm not sure how to put that on a

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motion. Tim,
>> maybe we could work maybe we can work on

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that while we wait if this assuming that
the tableling occurs.

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» Yep.
>> Yep.

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» Is there a second on Mark's first?
>> Yeah, I'll make a second to uh table it

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for the next meeting
or discussion.

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Any other discussions or comments?

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So, we have a first and a second with
conditions. Does everybody um

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vote on that as an I?
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» I
>> I

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» I
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following conditions. a 24hour
um permit if it's within that standard

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of the um the liability or li liable for
the permit usage and then the

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um the bond for the tanks for future
removal

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» or thereabout.
And and Tim, I did want to point out on

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the southeast corner of that lot parcel
split, it looks like it looks like going

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over to Algar Drive, there might be like
a small driven curb cut dirt path that

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has gone in. That just might be
something to keep an eye on when you go

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in. Okay. So,

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» you said on the souththeast
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split for the 7-Eleven presumably
>> essentially kind of where their

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dumpsters at or is it
>> Yeah. Um back it goes over towards like

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KNA electric right behind the Duncan. So
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cleaned up in this process. Um anyway,
but yeah um I'll mention that to our

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engineers as well.
>> Okay.

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Taylor, thank you for joining us.
>> Yeah, thanks.

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» Tim, do you have anything else on that?
>> There are no additions on that

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particular item.
>> Okay. So then we can move on to the

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amended amendment sub3-2026

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at 8310
Sylvania Menamore Road which is also

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another old right building.

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» We've been wondering what these would
become.

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[laughter]

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I've been wondering every day
>> as you look at it.

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» We got You got one more. We got one
more. Right. Actually, we got two more.

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» Yeah.
>> Oh, good. Good. I'm glad that things are

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progressing with them. That's very
important.

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So, you have There we There we are. So,
um

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So, we have the application. And is
there any presentation you'd like to

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give us or your full name to for the
minutes?

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» I think Tony is here, our architect.
>> This is Donald.

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» Louis and I unfortunately did not get a
chance to um coordinate before this, but

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I do have a presentation of what was
submitted and and it'll probably a

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little bit more. If you don't mind, I
can uh share screen here.

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» Yep. Can you just state your name and
representation? My name is Anthony

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Malik. I am with Architecture by Design
at um 5622 Mayberry Square.

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» Thank you.
>> And let me do um this one. I'll start

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with a with a maps view.
Um so this is the right at the corner of

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Centennial and Sennsylvania Metamora. Um
just to just to give an idea of what it

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looks like from street view so we know
what we're looking at here. That's

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looking the other way. Um, that's how
it's been for a little while here. Um,

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what we are proposing and I'm sorry,
this is rotated versus north is to the

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left. Centennial is here. Sylvania
metamora is here. This is Centennial.

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Let me make that red so you can see it.
This is Centennial.

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Um, this is Sylvania Metamora.
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would be
design intent here is to

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split the building into um three
different

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um spaces. One of which is going to be
the convenience store closest to the

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corner. Um the center of which is going
to actually be a car wash that will work

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within the bay that's that's there now.
And then the third part would be a

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another tenant space. It's it's a large
building for a convenience store. So

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therefore, we wanted to split it into
three separate spaces. We did look at

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the clearance for putting um fuel
dispensers in front of the building and

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parking would potentially go away, but
there's lots and lots of parking. Um so

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there would be space for a car to stack
here if need be as well. So 2 4 6 8 10

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pumps. Um not modifying any of the
existing um ingress and egress from the

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from the site. Now um there's existing
um dumpster enclosures in the back. Um,

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keep the in entry drive where it is. Uh,
let me zoom out and go to page two here.

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Just just show the
elevations. And I'm sorry, now my video

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card wants to take a little time to
render this, but um, essentially keeping

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a similar shape of the building, just
giving it some freshener materials. Um,

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some new canopies and of course a new
overhead door and a little bit of

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architecture where the car wash is going
in. Um, Louie, do you have anything to

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add to this?
Um, no. I think you covered it all.

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» Okay,

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» I guess. Are there any questions?

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Um
I guess car um most time I see new car

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washes just being in real estate myself
developed in hight traffic or areas you

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know with like 30 or 40,000 vehicles a
day.

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Um,
I'm just curious with this location and

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with it going in, um, just what else
would potentially could be to use in the

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future if it were to not work for some
reason. I know that you guys have the

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fuel that works with it. But driving
through the middle, I mean, like to put

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a would it be a car bay or a maintenance
bay or what the future use would be

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potentially?

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I mean, it's a it's a setup for a car
wash and uh

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we thinking to do those um the touchless
car wash is like a b car washes. Now, if

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that if you think that's not going to
work or we think that's not going to

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work, it would be like a tenant
unit or a storage unit. That's I mean I

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don't have anything
uh to think right

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» like the end unit
you would be getting rid of that driving

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capacity or the where like the
drive-thru is

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» no actually we would like to keep it a
driveth through that's incentive for to

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be a tenant
um uh for anyone that any business that

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would like to have a drive-thru could be
Okay.

434
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:46,079
» It could be a pharmacy, you know, I know
there's a pharmacy independent open or

435
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:52,320
could be in a restaurant. It could be a
pizza place. Anyone

436
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:58,480
would be willing to take it. It's an
advantage to have a drive-thru.

437
00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:01,480
» Gotcha. So there would be two drivethrus
potentially

438
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:07,160
for the end cap unit and the center

439
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:14,240
» or just
>> Yes. I think you're one one being the

440
00:41:11,839 --> 00:41:16,560
drive-thru the actual drive through the
building car wash.

441
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,920
» Okay.
>> Yes. I think that's what you're asking.

442
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,920
» Yes.
>> Yep.

443
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:31,839
And how traffic will work, I guess,
would be um could be

444
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:36,240
determined, updated as need be depending
on meetings with the city specifically.

445
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:40,880
But um I guess getting the use in is the
issue. I mean, obviously there's a

446
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:44,079
drive-thru now. So um and that that's
got it stacking and everything going on

447
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,839
here.
I was just I I was curious if there was

448
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:55,359
going to be two drive-throughs for that
other bay. Um that will be for lease on

449
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:59,440
the southernmost side. So
>> be a drive-thru for that as well. We had

450
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,960
not discussed that.
>> So

451
00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:05,280
» okay.
>> So a couple of questions in regards to

452
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:10,480
the car wash.
Is this

453
00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:13,960
are there going to be um dryers inside
the car wash?

454
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:20,880
Not inside the um Yes. Yeah. There
they're going to be dryers and up by the

455
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:29,200
exit. Yes.
>> Okay. And and how far is this from

456
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:34,119
residences to the west? As I'm trying to
get my geographic bearings

457
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:41,920
» to the west. I think you got quite a
ways. I think to the east,

458
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:44,880
just slightly to the northeast is your
closest resonant. Right there where he's

459
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:54,720
got the arrow pointing.
>> Yeah, cuz I know these blowers make

460
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:59,200
noise a reasonable amount of noise. Um,
will the will the doors in the facility

461
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:03,520
be closed
when the blower mo when the blowers are

462
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:07,599
running or is it going to be like a
continuous thing where people are

463
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:10,800
continuing to drive up and pull through?
How what's what's your vision for that,

464
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:15,760
Mr. Rei?
>> Well, it could be both ways. They can

465
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:20,960
simply programmed the door stay closed
until the drying is done.

466
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:25,200
Then it will the door will open and the
exit sign will turn on.

467
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:29,040
» Okay.
>> So yeah,

468
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:34,640
» that's what what we do during winter
because it's too cold. Uh it's already

469
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:40,400
in place. We we have the doors closed
and other car washes we have in White

470
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:44,880
House. And if that's a concern, we can
keep it all year long.

471
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:51,839
» Yeah, that sound attenuation I think
would be helpful. Um,

472
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:57,599
and and I'm going to ask you pretty much
the same questions I asked the other um

473
00:43:55,359 --> 00:44:01,920
gentleman. Is this going to be the
convenience store and the car wash, are

474
00:43:59,359 --> 00:44:10,640
they going to be operated 24/7?
No, not um probably usually most of our

475
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:16,480
neighborhood stores we close 11 p.m. Uh
some stores 10 p.m. but I would say no

476
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:22,480
later than 11 p.m.
>> Okay.

477
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:28,480
A and same question I asked um
earlier. Is this facility going to be um

478
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:32,800
constructed so that you can have
electric charging? I mean, you're going

479
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:38,160
to, not that you're going to wire it for
electric charging necessarily, but are

480
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:43,359
you going to have um the ability to put
electric charging here?

481
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,880
» Um I don't know, Tony, if we ever
discussed this. I'm not sure because we

482
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:50,160
use an existing building.
>> We we had not discussed it. I mean, the

483
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,040
electrical infrastructure would need to
be added to the building in order to do

484
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:59,200
that, especially if you want the level
the level three fast charge. So, um that

485
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,599
that could be down the road. Um it was
not specifically discussed but it could

486
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:11,200
be down the road.
>> Okay. Um and and then lastly

487
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:16,640
the um the same question regarding bond.
Is this uh

488
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:19,760
is that something that you're
um because you're you know you're

489
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:25,520
burying tanks. I don't know how big the
tanks are capacity wise but are you you

490
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:29,920
know are you willing to float a bond to
for remediation purposes?

491
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:35,160
Yes.
>> Okay.

492
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,160
Thank you.

493
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:57,119
» Any other questions, Tim? All right.
Everything

494
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:02,160
» Yeah, this will go through the same
process of site review. So, um

495
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:08,160
everything will be um reviewed on the
engineering side as [clears throat] far

496
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:13,280
as traffic flow um in grass egress. Most
of it because this facility has been

497
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:19,119
used as a fairly hightra area. Um in the
past, as you know, this right a was one

498
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:25,760
of the busier ones. Um it uh it it held
its own um in the past. Um, so I think a

499
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:29,920
lot of it is probably designed um,
right? But that that will all get

500
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:36,319
calculated based based off of um,
expected trips.

501
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:42,640
Um, as far as the uh, the other portion
of it, um, the SUP portion is do they

502
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:46,680
meet the criteria that this board would
like to see?

503
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,560
» Yeah. Yeah.

504
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:58,440
Can I ask for a motion on uh amendment
sub3-2026?

505
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:07,680
I'll I'll make a motion to recommend to
um

506
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:15,680
to city council that for approval of
SUP3

507
00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:21,040
2000 2026 with um the provision that the
doors to the car wash be closed while

508
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:26,160
the drying is going on and that the
underground tanks have a bond for

509
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:31,760
remediation purposes
included. And lastly, that the that the

510
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:38,319
convenience store
does not operate 20

511
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:41,319
closes no later than
um

512
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:50,160
I'm trying to think of the right words.
Doesn't operate 24/7. That it has a

513
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:54,319
a more traditional schedule. And I don't
know if that's a proper motion or not,

514
00:47:51,839 --> 00:48:00,240
Tim. Um but
>> I think

515
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:05,280
that or within the permitted code.
>> Um would I be able to request just just

516
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,359
» whichever whichever is more restricting?
>> Yeah.

517
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:11,760
» Yeah.
>> Would I be able to request a slight

518
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:16,480
clarification to that? Um, and I don't
know um the the doors being closed if if

519
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:21,440
it can be proven if the fans can be such
that the decibb at a certain distance

520
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:25,440
away are below a certain level and I
don't know what that number is. I'm

521
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:28,800
sorry. I'm winging it here. Um, would
that be a better criteria if they were

522
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:33,920
able to leave the doors open and the
fans weren't that loud?

523
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:37,520
Could we do a decibel test at a certain
distance away? And if they if it isn't

524
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:42,000
um, like Lou said, the doors could be
closed.

525
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:47,440
» Yeah. And I will um add to that there is
a a decibel level at a property line

526
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:53,040
that can be measured by our police
department. I do not know exactly what

527
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:56,480
that level if it's 600 or 800 or
something like that.

528
00:48:54,559 --> 00:49:02,880
» Yeah, I'd rather I'd rather use
>> 680 or 860 rings a bell.

529
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:06,160
» I'd rather use a criteria like that if
possible. Um Mr.

530
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,480
Um

531
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:21,280
I don't know what's in the code. I my
concern with that my concern with that

532
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:27,599
just generally speaking and I understand
your thought process and I I prefer the

533
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:32,960
scientific approach as well but I but I
have some just general concerns uh not

534
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:39,200
specifically about a car wash and the
blower motors but we've had um some

535
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:45,520
other stuff that that were were that
were installed in the city and the on

536
00:49:41,839 --> 00:49:50,160
and off nature the in this case it was
um not doesn't have anything to do with

537
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:57,599
a car wash, but uh we've we've had a lot
of of complaints from a few citizens

538
00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:02,960
um because of the intermittent nature of
something going on and off

539
00:49:59,839 --> 00:50:08,720
» and and that's the reason why it
concerns it concerns me.

540
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:13,760
» Okay. I just wanted to ask. [laughter]
>> So I I I think Well, I understand your

541
00:50:11,359 --> 00:50:18,079
thought process and I'm not married
certainly to that. It doesn't sound like

542
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:20,559
it would be
because for four or five months a year

543
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:25,280
you're going to have the doors closed
anyways as as Mr. Rei had indicated. I'm

544
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:31,839
not sure it's that much of an imposition
to have them closed regardless.

545
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:36,960
» Yeah.
So, okay. I just wanted to ask as far as

546
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:43,160
you know putting it into a into a motion
here just Okay, that's my comment.

547
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:52,119
» Is there any reason that the car wash
does not function [clears throat]

548
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,119
equally as well?

549
00:50:54,240 --> 00:51:00,720
» I think Mr. Reed probably answers that
would answer that better.

550
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:06,160
» I'm sorry. What was the question again?
With the garage door closed, is there

551
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:11,520
any reason that the the car wash does
not function equally as well?

552
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:19,440
» No, no, it's it doesn't matter. It's
just the speed sometimes, you know, just

553
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:25,359
it's easier to keep the door open, but
but with the new technology, it's it's

554
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:31,839
there. You can have it shut up and down
as many as you want. It's not a concern

555
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,839
on our end. Okay.

556
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:44,520
So, Kristen, do you have my motion?

557
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:50,000
» I think so. I'm gonna have to go back
and listen again.

558
00:51:48,319 --> 00:51:53,839
» Okay. [laughter]
I have a recording.

559
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:58,559
» It was It was a touch convoluted or
maybe more [laughter] more than a touch

560
00:51:55,839 --> 00:52:06,359
convoluted. Yeah,
>> I'll second his motion [laughter]

561
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:06,359
» by by a touch convoluted motion. Zach,

562
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:13,240
» all in favor say I.
>> I.

563
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:13,240
» I.

564
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:24,319
the motion's been carried or the um
amendment sub 3-2026

565
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:29,359
been um
carried on and then with Mark's

566
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:35,079
additional comments
>> as a recommendation to council

567
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,079
» as a recommendation to council.

568
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:45,040
» Any other additions Tim?
>> There are no additions.

569
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:49,200
And I ask for a motion for uh journ.
>> So moved.

570
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:53,520
» Second.
>> All in favor say I.

571
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,680
» I.
>> That's it. Thank you everyone.

572
00:52:54,720 --> 00:53:00,400
» Thank you everybody.
>> Thank you. Did anybody have problems

573
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:09,040
getting
access to the forms? Did anybody look at

574
00:53:04,319 --> 00:53:09,040
the online stuff now? Um,