1 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,960 e 2 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,920 e 3 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,920 e 4 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,840 e 5 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:13,319 good evening good evening good evening hello 6 00:02:09,959 --> 00:02:19,480 can can you hear me not a very big room so I hope you can um welcome to the 7 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:26,200 talaa city council special meeting it's Thursday April the 4th 2024 it's 5:30 8 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:32,560 p.m. and we call the meeting to order please councelor Perry yes councelor 9 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:40,000 Baker here councelor hirers here councelor Allen here we have a qu thank 10 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:44,040 you Ed Hayworth are you here Mr Hayworth if you'll join us for the invocation 11 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:55,239 please please bow your heads Lord I Thank you that that we have 12 00:02:51,720 --> 00:03:01,920 a a group of men and women who care about each and every person that depends 13 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:08,480 on them Lord the city of talaa is is such a great place Lord and and and I 14 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:13,120 bless those people that have dedicated their lives to make to keeping it that 15 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:20,120 way or even making it better if that's possible Lord I I thank 16 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:27,280 you for the wisdom and and the the love and the care Lord I I I pray Lord for a 17 00:03:24,799 --> 00:03:34,799 a lighter Spirit to sit down on this meeting uh not a heavy 18 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:42,120 doldrum Spirit but a light Spirit a fun spirit and bless everybody that cares 19 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:42,120 enough to come in Jesus's name I pray 20 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,560 amen 21 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:05,560 indice I do want to um just briefly mention my 22 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:09,879 apologies for cancelling the meeting on Monday and moving it to today but I 23 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:14,959 watched The Weather Channel and that was our um at 12:30 when the storm rolled in 24 00:04:12,519 --> 00:04:17,160 I was a little disappointed that we had called the meeting off I was 25 00:04:15,879 --> 00:04:20,519 disappointed at six o'clock we called the meeting off and there was nothing 26 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:25,160 but so my apologies for those that um may have come and were turned away but 27 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,160 thank you for being here 28 00:04:26,919 --> 00:04:34,039 tonight public comments will be accepted from the general public concerning 29 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:38,400 topics that are not included in the meeting's agenda individuals will be 30 00:04:36,199 --> 00:04:42,600 limited to 3 minutes each of speaking time and the cumulative total of all 31 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,400 comments from the public shall not exceed 15 32 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:51,720 minutes preference will be given to talaa Residents and in compliance with 33 00:04:49,039 --> 00:04:56,759 the Oklahoma open meeting act no action or discussion is permitted by council 34 00:04:54,080 --> 00:05:01,280 members on any issue or topic raised by a speaker during this public comment 35 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:07,000 time is there anyone in the audience who would like to give a public comment step 36 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:10,600 up and state your name and address please or Ward you don't have to give us 37 00:05:09,199 --> 00:05:15,800 your address if you'll tell us what Ward you're in please uh good evening um 38 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:22,240 greetings mayor and Council my name is William Morgan uh and I live on elant 39 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:27,600 Rock uh on Highway 10 I'm a resident of tall and proud to call this my home the 40 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:32,840 older that has affected tall's business and residence is a concern for myself 41 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:37,880 and Community I appreciate the effort uh the city and tpwa are doing to rectify 42 00:05:35,039 --> 00:05:42,240 the situation and as I mentioned I am a business owner and I may have options to 43 00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:46,039 eradicate this problem in a quick manner while being coste effective I'll also 44 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,600 have options to mitigate the risk of this happening in the 45 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:54,880 future uh I'm aware of the magnitude of this event this takes big thinking and 46 00:05:52,759 --> 00:05:57,360 that is a specialty of mine that I do believe I have so I'm looking for the 47 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:01,759 opportunity to speak with those individuals who are heading this up uh 48 00:05:59,919 --> 00:06:05,479 this is not a sales call because I'm a voting member in our community and I 49 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:10,280 have personal investments in tall including the city of tall theal Area 50 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:15,160 Chamber of Commerce nor Eastern State University Cherokee Nation and numerous 51 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:20,479 other projects within our great nest of Northeast Oklahoma the success of our 52 00:06:18,319 --> 00:06:25,080 community uh the success of our community in all aspects is my concern 53 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:29,919 as I do call it my home I will contribute accordingly I'm able willing 54 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:33,560 and eager to contribute to the answer which I know that we can come to an 55 00:06:31,319 --> 00:06:36,520 answer that we can come to I'm readily available to any member to speak to at 56 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:42,840 your convenience I believe most of you know how to reach me want to thank you 57 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,840 mayor and Council for your time so 58 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,240 much do we have anyone 59 00:06:51,720 --> 00:07:00,840 else and a lot of you know me I'm Jim jolof I live at 1505 Aspen Drive in 60 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:05,639 South Bridge we've got an issue out there for storm 61 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:10,120 water and I've I've spoken to Ray Hammond number of times 62 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:15,240 about this um Mr tanah 63 00:07:12,879 --> 00:07:18,639 Hill has been out there in my house and looked at the situation you it's a 64 00:07:17,319 --> 00:07:24,400 problem needs to be fixed uh Rick Patrick of 65 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:28,680 tpwa has been out there a couple of times and looked at it and he agreed 66 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:33,240 that soon as it dries up we're going to fix it 67 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:39,080 um the storm water manager came out uh young man first thing he told me 68 00:07:36,759 --> 00:07:43,680 when he got there I've only got a week left in the job and I'm leaving so 69 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:47,919 whatever you need you need to wait till the next guy comes 70 00:07:45,039 --> 00:07:53,039 along I said okay I'll I'll do that I called him I never have met him yet he 71 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:57,879 never returned to call and I don't I don't know who he is 72 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:57,879 so 73 00:07:57,919 --> 00:08:07,639 um I've left a number of messages for the mayor and have not had any return 74 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:13,240 calls but um we've got a storm water at back there right behind my house I'm 75 00:08:09,919 --> 00:08:18,039 right I can see the the hotel where I'm my back patio I'm fortunate enough I can 76 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:24,280 watch the Cherokee Nation fireworks display from my patio I like that that's 77 00:08:21,319 --> 00:08:28,080 a that's a heck of a show they put on but um we've made numerous phone calls 78 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:34,479 and I I don't I don't think I'm in the right place uh the city council is just 79 00:08:31,599 --> 00:08:40,120 just a new thing I've never done this before and uh we we've got an issue back 80 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:45,519 there it's in the city tal it's in the city limits it's an 81 00:08:41,959 --> 00:08:50,000 niore the mosquitoes during the summer eat us up and it's not only me it's 82 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:56,200 everybody lives in that particular neighborhood right 83 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,200 there they call it storm water 84 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:03,920 drainage this water doesn't drain doesn't go anywhere it sits right where 85 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:08,079 it's at I keep being told by a lot of people a lot of people in this room 86 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:13,360 matter of fact soon as it dries up we're going to come in here and fix 87 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:20,000 that it's never going to dry up but you're safe because when it dries 88 00:09:16,959 --> 00:09:24,800 up you can fix it but we'll all be dead and gone before that 89 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:29,480 happens but um if I can get any assistance from the city of 90 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:34,800 council city of T quad I really appreciate it it's it's an niore they 91 00:09:32,079 --> 00:09:39,279 they sent a a a contractor in there to trim the lines for the high 92 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:45,360 lines they trimmed all the limbs off the trees and left them laying on the ground 93 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:50,839 just let went off and left them there I've been burning 94 00:09:47,839 --> 00:09:55,880 them it's if you burn a brush pile in City Telo it's a $50 fine I didn't do 95 00:09:54,040 --> 00:10:00,480 that I went to for fire department and talked to him about it Mr if you haul it 96 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:04,440 out to the street time's up okay but thank you very much 97 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:07,720 for your comments okay you can help me I appreciate it thank you so 98 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:25,560 much the end of the public comments or no no no are you ready to do you want to 99 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:30,839 do a public comment yeah got some issues here okay please 100 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:37,680 step up now I'm brand new in this town so um maybe just remind you you get 101 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:43,040 three minutes so and I'm not trying to won be long just letting you know you're 102 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:47,279 right I tried to contact your office too but they get no response and what's your 103 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:52,800 name please my name is Steve odland and I live at 104 00:10:48,399 --> 00:10:59,720 3962 Rosewood Place here in alqua okay we moved in here two years 105 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:03,600 ago all right and I called your office initially you were going to have a 106 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:08,000 meeting with me I have some suggestions to 107 00:11:04,519 --> 00:11:12,600 make uh we had a conflict and after that or meetings and after that I never heard 108 00:11:09,959 --> 00:11:17,920 from you again so it'd be great if we could get together 109 00:11:13,959 --> 00:11:21,519 sometime all right so um one of the issues that I 110 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:26,720 have is um there's the gas company here in town 111 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:31,959 not the twpa uh the other company whatever that 112 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:37,000 name is they don't even say the name on the on the bills 113 00:11:34,079 --> 00:11:43,720 here I'm sure you know what company you I'm talking about uh this company has as 114 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:51,760 far as I can see and I looked at the bills uh set up a a 115 00:11:47,839 --> 00:11:56,360 policy uh where people they make people pay more than what they're supposed to 116 00:11:54,560 --> 00:12:03,399 okay um uh my wife had a hip surger in fville 117 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:08,079 and during that time before we left she forgot U she 118 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:13,399 forgot uh to put the bill in the mail and so as a result we came back 119 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:17,760 after her hip surgery for three days we came back on the 120 00:12:14,959 --> 00:12:22,800 21st and uh we looked I looked in the mail picked up the mail and among the 121 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:29,760 mailes was a cut off notice okay and I looked at the bill and 122 00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:35,519 the due date was the 15th of January and the cut off was was the 21st six days 123 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:42,120 later okay as far as I'm concerned that's ridiculous that's 124 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:46,800 outrageous all right um so they cut me off I got the people to come back out 125 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:51,800 and turn it back on all right and I talked to the guy that that uh turned me 126 00:12:49,839 --> 00:12:58,680 back on and he told me it's happening all over the place is happening there 127 00:12:54,680 --> 00:13:03,680 were the 21st of that that very day that they cut me off I received a letter in 128 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:11,079 the mail or cut off okay that gives you a good idea he told me that up to the 129 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:15,959 21st of January they had cut off 250 people just here in 130 00:13:13,199 --> 00:13:20,760 tala okay and he said and they're operating in still well and they're 131 00:13:18,079 --> 00:13:25,040 operating in in these other four districts and I'm thinking to myself 132 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:31,480 every time they cut somebody off they make 133 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:37,720 $75 okay now $75 5 time 250 just here in tar that that's a lot of lot of money 134 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:43,000 and that's just in tar every month right so my point is it would it 135 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:48,320 would be a privilege for that company to operate here in tala that should be 136 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:52,240 subjected to certain rules and this got to change it's got to change yes and I 137 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:55,240 do apologize but your three minutes are up but I do want to visit with you but I 138 00:13:53,880 --> 00:14:00,120 also want to give you the phone number and the contact information for the gas 139 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:06,399 Authority because that's this particular issue I contacted the Energy company 140 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:10,360 okay incom Commission in in Tulsa and they said they have no jurisdiction on 141 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:13,519 this company right but let let's try to get together and if you have other 142 00:14:12,199 --> 00:14:17,839 issues that aren't pertaining to gas company I would be happy to visit with 143 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:22,480 you schedule another time issues I have be happy to sir thank you very much 144 00:14:20,519 --> 00:14:25,800 would I call you then or you call me I don't have your number but if I I don't 145 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,279 want you to scream it out across the audience I don't think I would love to 146 00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:33,079 have your number do you want to write it down and give it to me okay okay if you 147 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:38,600 would that would be great thank you anyone else for a public 148 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:47,399 comment okay we'll move on to consent agenda item number four these items are 149 00:14:45,199 --> 00:14:51,360 placed on the on the consent agenda so that members of the city council by 150 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:55,880 unanimous consent can designate routine items to be approved in one motion any 151 00:14:53,880 --> 00:15:00,040 item proposed on the consent agenda not meeting with the approval of all council 152 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:06,600 members will be moved and heard in the regular session do I have a motion for 153 00:15:02,839 --> 00:15:09,360 the consent agenda so move I'd I take off C 154 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,240 please are there any other items to be 155 00:15:27,959 --> 00:15:30,959 removed 156 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:42,480 second any other items or is there 157 00:15:42,759 --> 00:15:45,759 motion 158 00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:58,639 V I didn't see who made the motion oh no it was Baker no I took off 159 00:15:54,079 --> 00:16:04,680 he took off an item oh my God sorry you made to approve with C remove 160 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:10,920 yes councelor Allen yes councelor H highers yes councelor Baker yes counc 161 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,920 Perry 162 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:27,720 motion that's uh we we'll do a special Proclamation for National donate a life 163 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:30,920 month oh that's right 164 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:37,440 Mr Ray Hammond are you doing 165 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:44,800 it we need a dress rehearsal we do okay so Proclamation I do have a proclamation 166 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:49,800 then we have some guests with us this evening that we'd like to introduce to 167 00:16:46,199 --> 00:16:53,759 everyone so the proclamation reads as follows whereas one of the most 168 00:16:51,880 --> 00:17:00,000 meaningful gifts that a human being can bestow upon another is the gift of life 169 00:16:56,639 --> 00:17:03,760 and whereas over 103,000 men women and children are currently on the national 170 00:17:02,079 --> 00:17:11,240 waiting list for organ transplantation of which nearly 742 171 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:17,039 reside in Oklahoma and whereas 649 organ transplants occurred in Oklahoma in 2023 172 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:24,439 thanks to the selfless generosity donor Heroes of which 559 lives were saved 173 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:29,760 whereas more than 2.5 million people throughout the country and in Oklahoma 174 00:17:26,439 --> 00:17:34,480 benefit annually from tissue transplant thanks to thousands of tissue donors and 175 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:38,280 whereas the need for organ eye and tissue donation remains critical as a 176 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:43,799 new patient is added to the wait National waiting list for an organ 177 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:50,520 transplant every nine minutes and eight each day roughly 17 people died due to 178 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:54,880 the lack of available organs and whereas about 179 00:17:52,039 --> 00:17:58,919 1,956 th000 Oklahomans have already registered their decision to give the 180 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:04,880 gift of life through organ and tissue donation at lifeshare oklahoma. org or 181 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:10,240 on their driver's license and whereas lifeshare Oklahoma the nonprofit organ 182 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:15,840 procurement organization dedicated to the recovery of organs and tissue for 183 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:21,360 transplantation therapy in Oklahoma with a mission to honor donors and save lives 184 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:25,280 through o organ and tissue donation now I therefore Suzanne Myers with a power 185 00:18:23,559 --> 00:18:31,919 vested in me as mayor of the city of talaa to hereby proclaim the month of 186 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:36,000 April 24th for donation life month in the city of talaa and encourage all 187 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:40,840 residents to consider giving life through Oregan donation and to sign up 188 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:45,640 on Oklahoma's organ and tissue donor registry by visiting lifeshare 189 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:51,600 registry.org or when renewing their driver's license or state 190 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:55,799 identification card in witness thereof I have unto here set my hand and caused 191 00:18:53,840 --> 00:19:02,600 the Great Seal of the city of talaa to be fixed this first day of April 20 24 192 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,600 and I'm happy to do 193 00:19:14,559 --> 00:19:19,569 that thank [Music] 194 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,720 you 195 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:50,159 thank you very much mayor my name is Susan earler I work at Life share 196 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:54,080 Oklahoma I have um the wonderful opportunity to be able to work for this 197 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:58,320 organization um they are an amazing organization and like you said mayor 198 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:02,919 there's so many things that we do every day to save lives um Donate Life month 199 00:20:01,159 --> 00:20:07,440 is something that is a national celebration of life across the entire 200 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:11,520 country um Life share of Oklahoma were the ones that that celebrate it through 201 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:15,720 the entire State we want to first off say very uh huge thank you out to your 202 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:20,880 two Health Systems here in talaa because we work very very closely with Cherokee 203 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:25,919 Nation WW Hastings and Northeastern Health Systems who um absolutely support 204 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:30,960 everything that we do when it comes to organ and tissue donation and we have um 205 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:34,480 a large number of donors that come from this community and so we are very 206 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:39,720 thankful of that one of the things that I just want to touch on that you also 207 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:44,039 touched on is uh the need for more organ and tissue donors um we have quite a 208 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:49,360 number here in the state of Oklahoma but there's always room for I think a lot of 209 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:53,480 times there is a a miscommunication on what exactly donation means and we are 210 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:57,320 more than happy to sit down and talk to anybody about exactly what that's going 211 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:01,360 to look like but more than anything we would like to encourage you to take 212 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:05,080 control of your own decision making and make sure that you yourself are 213 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:08,520 registered um you can register like you said on your driver's license in the 214 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:12,840 state of Oklahoma you can also register on your hunting and fishing license you 215 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:16,720 can register on your real ID and then you can also register on the Life share 216 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,960 website uh the Life share website what's different about that is it allows you 217 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:24,679 the opportunity to say exactly what you want uh recovered and what you don't 218 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:29,200 want recovered so my mom who's 85 years old has decided that everything is okay 219 00:21:26,919 --> 00:21:32,840 except for her corneas she's like take everything but my corneas she's good 220 00:21:31,159 --> 00:21:36,799 with that she was not going to register because she was concerned about that so 221 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:40,960 on the live share website you can go on that and that's where you can designate 222 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:46,279 um I authorize any and all things recovered except for and you can um and 223 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:50,400 that way you have uh control over what it is that your decisions are um as 224 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:55,520 someone who's on the front line every single day it is heartbreaking to see 225 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:58,720 families literally go to fisticuffs when it comes to making this decision you'll 226 00:21:57,159 --> 00:22:03,600 have a faction of the family that says absolutely they would want this and then 227 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:08,240 affection absolutely they would not and uh time is wasting when it comes to the 228 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:12,559 decisions being made in the time that we need to be able to recover these uh 229 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:16,919 these organs and this tissue and so if you can make that decision yourself make 230 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:20,720 it be known and also you can rest assured in knowing that because of first 231 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:24,200 person authorization if you have been the one that has designated that you 232 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:28,279 want to be a donor you're a registered donor nobody can ever take that away 233 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:32,000 from you and that's very very important for for people to know that if they've 234 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:37,400 made that decision nobody in their family not a husband not a spouse I mean 235 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:40,279 not you know anybody else uh Mom Dad nobody can change your mind if you've 236 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,279 already made that decision and you've registered so you can also feel 237 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:47,559 comfortable in knowing that your decision is going to be um it's going to 238 00:22:46,159 --> 00:22:51,360 be looked at and we are going to make sure that that happens so just wanted to 239 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:56,240 make sure everybody knows that this month is uh we said Donate Life month 240 00:22:53,880 --> 00:23:01,159 we've chosen the paper crane uh origami crane to be sort of our theme this year 241 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:04,200 so mayor I have a T-shirt and a pen and I also have pins for everybody else if 242 00:23:02,679 --> 00:23:07,120 you'd like to wear one just wear it proudly and when people ask you what 243 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:12,080 this means that'll be your opportunity to tell them that talaa supports uh 244 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:16,320 organ and tissue donation and that this is the month to do it and we need people 245 00:23:14,159 --> 00:23:21,000 to be registering all year around but this is definitely the month that we 246 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:26,880 kind of focus on that so we genuinely appreciate you recognizing the work that 247 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:31,320 we do and recognizing um that it is such an important thing for everybody to take 248 00:23:28,679 --> 00:23:35,480 a look at and make a decision than time thank you for what you do every day than 249 00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:46,720 you that'd be fine yeah thank you so much goodies she's full of goodies right 250 00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:46,720 yeah thank 251 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:56,679 you moving on announcements and presentations Item 252 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,679 B cpwa statement to the 253 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,440 public 254 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:13,600 good evening my name is Kim Dar I'm the assistant general manager at tala Public 255 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:18,320 Works um please forgive us Mr Curtis was unavailable this evening he was he could 256 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:23,240 have been here Monday but not tonight um I have David with me David Lindsay he 257 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:27,960 worked at the waste treatment plant for uh 15 years before being promoted to 258 00:24:25,399 --> 00:24:33,000 special services director um he has our letter that Mr Curtis and the rest of us 259 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:37,440 put together that was posted on our Facebook page and I will let him read it 260 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:41,960 since you probably don't want to listen to me much 261 00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:41,960 more thank 262 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:50,960 you good evening mayor and Council uh my name is David 263 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:55,080 Lindsay this statement to the public we are aware of the odor issues permeating 264 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:59,960 the city and we are aware we are actively working on correcting this 265 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:05,559 issue We Believe unknown substances were illegally dumped in our M holes at some 266 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:09,120 point this may seem trivial but it can seriously disrupt the wastewater 267 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:14,000 treatment process and leave the city smelling foul the wastewater treatment 268 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:19,760 system relies on bacteria to treat waste and keep odors at Bay when someone dumps 269 00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:23,880 chemicals grease oil Etc in manhold it can kill the good bacteria used for 270 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:29,200 waste treatment and it can take months to remedy the situation like this the 271 00:25:26,159 --> 00:25:33,640 source of ins sight of the contamination is currently unknown but we are actively 272 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:37,440 working with EQ to pinpoint this information the unknown substance 273 00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:41,840 completely killed off all the good bacteria in our basins in my 18 years of 274 00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:47,000 experience at wastewater treatment facility this has only happened one 275 00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:50,679 other time we are working with DEQ and surrounding wastewater treatment 276 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,559 facilities oh and the surrounding wastewater treatment facilities to 277 00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:59,399 restore the good bacteria in our reservoirs we are constantly bringing in 278 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:03,000 sludge process of reing feting our basins with good bacteria from another 279 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:06,919 facility and even looking into chemical treatment that may help Quicken the 280 00:26:04,919 --> 00:26:11,440 process our laboratory numbers are currently trending in the right 281 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:16,240 direction but the process is lengthy as we get the correct balance back of good 282 00:26:14,399 --> 00:26:22,279 bacteria the odor will begin to dissipate we understand the aspiration 283 00:26:20,679 --> 00:26:26,600 this has caused our community we are doing everything in our power and 284 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:32,600 actively working with DQ to remedy the situation if you hear anyone or see any 285 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:38,279 dumping any if you hear of anyone or see anyone 286 00:26:35,679 --> 00:26:42,919 dumping anything into the manhole report it to local authorities immediately we 287 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:46,760 appreciate your patience sincerely Daryl Curtis Waste Water treatment facility or 288 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:50,960 plant superintendent thank you very much and 289 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:55,000 we appreciate the comment made to the public 290 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:58,600 and the information that was shared hopefully that will answer a lot of 291 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:02,080 questions and it's nice to see that we're moving in a corrective manner to 292 00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:06,279 get things back to normal so thank you very much for the work you've done thank 293 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:18,760 you item 6A discussion and possible action on items removed from the consent 294 00:27:15,679 --> 00:27:25,480 agenda item C was removed acknowledge receipt of the February 2024 investment 295 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:33,760 schedule uh I'm going to address this to Marty if you don't mind sir um on page 296 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:39,760 13 of the uh for the I think it was the February 2024 investment schedule the I 297 00:27:38,399 --> 00:27:50,679 noticed that there were several that were coming uh due or you know into 298 00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:55,600 uh for lack of a better word maturity the when's the last time that 299 00:27:53,919 --> 00:28:02,360 we uh checked on when's when when would we 300 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:07,279 start that specific program with that specific 301 00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:13,360 company been at you're probably more generally asking 302 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,360 you 303 00:28:16,039 --> 00:28:25,440 know it started a long time before I was on board and um they were a local 304 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:31,320 business I believe and um they were able to handle the amount of volume dollars 305 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:37,640 that that we had mhm and um they were able to uh keep all of it 306 00:28:34,679 --> 00:28:40,799 in one place to help Minister it I don't know if that's the question I was just 307 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:47,279 basically I noticed that they were you know coming to maturity I just was 308 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:51,799 trying to you know at least inquire as to if we've already checked to see if we 309 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:58,200 can get better rates or a better opportunity for investment yeah um you 310 00:28:55,159 --> 00:29:02,919 know there's always um there's always opportunity out there you know depending 311 00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:08,399 on your work you know I'm a banker so we have we have them available at our bank 312 00:29:05,399 --> 00:29:14,519 yes sir sometimes higher sometimes lower um but I'm I do Market comps and I stay 313 00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:19,440 within the market on them in Market rates and so um you know there may be a 314 00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:24,840 bank that runs a special for a short period of time but with the amount of 315 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:32,200 money and the amount of CDs we have it's quite frankly administering it um at one 316 00:29:27,399 --> 00:29:39,200 place is I'm a whole lot more organized we have I think there's probably four 317 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:45,120 maturing um in 24 I might have had one mature last week uh you know I talked to 318 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:52,399 the broker I knew what I could get I see what's out in the market um I reinvested 319 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:57,440 it based on a ladder um based on a ladder positioning that way there's 320 00:29:54,760 --> 00:30:00,840 always liquidity um if the city ever needs some 321 00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:05,240 liquidity um there will always be a source of liquidity for that year and 322 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:11,360 you know versus if you put them all in once and then they all mature um at the 323 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:15,880 same date in the future you know if something happens in the city needed 324 00:30:12,919 --> 00:30:20,279 money um we would have to you know pay penalties fees and penalties and 325 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:25,880 interest to get it them out and so um this way it keeps them fluid but we 326 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:31,880 haven't at least looked into other opportunities for for quite some time 327 00:30:28,679 --> 00:30:34,399 uh I look all the time okay but I mean it's just that I'm keeping them at 328 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:39,640 Edward Jones right now 329 00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:45,120 okay that was my question any other questions for Marty 330 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:51,279 or anyone else regarding that item do we have a motion for that 331 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:58,840 item so moved second councelor Allen yes councelor 332 00:30:54,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Baker yes councelor hirers yes councelor Perry yes motion 333 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,760 carried thank 334 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:14,519 you item 6B discussion and possible action to authorize the mayor to sign 335 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:20,039 the grant notice of award from Eda to the talaka accessibility and parking 336 00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:25,760 Improvement project and sign other necessary documents related to set grant 337 00:31:22,679 --> 00:31:31,080 compliance coordinator Ray Hammond mayor and Council this is Eda 338 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:36,240 grant that we received uh in the tune of a little north of 1.8 million this is a 339 00:31:34,639 --> 00:31:43,799 grant that Taylor had been working on for some time uh and and initiated it 340 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:50,559 came it goes from going snake roughly to Chickasaw uh where they will be uh 341 00:31:46,639 --> 00:31:58,399 correcting the ADA Compliant uh plates and and ramps also the push button 342 00:31:54,159 --> 00:32:05,480 crosswalks as well as Ada drives uh they will be submitting uh a plan uh as to uh 343 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:11,159 uh as to how they're going to implement this but the the grant funds are in we 344 00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:15,639 were awarded that and uh we are requesting that the mayor be allowed to 345 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:22,919 accept those funds for that Grant purpose the money that matching fund has 346 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:26,840 already been uh secured through uh means of arpa and the help of Michelle Collins 347 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,639 our finance director 348 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:36,240 and this will also include uh some parking lot improvements correct you 349 00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:40,360 know I'm I'm not going to speak to that I I think there is but I think it's 350 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,960 going to help like the the demo of the building down at the old laundry mat and 351 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:52,200 then maybe possibly some parking up around Downing and uh maybe maybe 352 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:52,200 possibly a Bridgeway I don't 353 00:32:52,799 --> 00:33:04,000 know we'll see how it goes we'll see what you guys want to do 354 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:10,960 motion to approve second councelor Allen yes councelor Perry yes councelor Baker 355 00:33:06,679 --> 00:33:16,039 yes councelor hirers yes motion carried $1.9 356 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:21,639 million sort really close congratulations to everyone 357 00:33:19,159 --> 00:33:25,600 that I would like to say that Michelle put a lot of effort in with the Auditors 358 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:30,240 making this thing happen correctly she really her and her crew did an 359 00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:30,240 outstanding job making it 360 00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:41,480 work item 6C second reading and possible action to approve approve with 361 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:47,519 modification or deny ordinance number 1376 362 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:53,000 d024 an ordinance of the city of Taqua Oklahoma amending the Taqua city code 363 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:59,559 part 18 stormwater management chapter 18-1 storm water management program 364 00:33:55,799 --> 00:34:04,919 section 18-8 s fees providing for codification severability repealer and 365 00:34:02,679 --> 00:34:09,359 declaring an emergency compliance coordinator Ray 366 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:14,800 Hammond uh yes this is a second reading as you've heard uh same as before uh 367 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:21,119 since the initial uh beginnings of our storm water 368 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:27,040 program we have not increased any fees uh and the projects uh as you know 369 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:33,839 materials has doubled since the roughly 2008 so uh sometimes in some cases 370 00:34:30,839 --> 00:34:40,200 tripled but we do uh we're asking that the fees uh be increased from at 371 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:46,639 residential from $2 to $4 uh from commercial $4 to $8 and for uh other 372 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:52,040 larger complexes it which there's not very many would be from $8 to 373 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:58,359 $16 monthly sorry Mr the ordinance presented 374 00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:03,800 is from $10 to 20 I apologize I apologize uh this will put us also 375 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:08,160 kind of almost caught up with most other cities as far as what they charge for 376 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,160 storm water 377 00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:14,560 pce is there a 378 00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:21,920 motion I make motion to 379 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:31,599 approve I'll second councelor hirers yes councelor 380 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:35,320 Baker yes councelor Perry yes councelor Allen yes motion 381 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:45,000 carried do we have a motion for 382 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:55,800 emergency before this starts I'll make the question it is there any safety 383 00:35:52,560 --> 00:36:01,160 issues that that we need to look at or does this qualify for that 384 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:08,119 I I just think the the ordinance has an effective date of July one so even if 385 00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:13,119 you pass an emergency still noted till July at last meeting we I think we were 386 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:19,119 all in accordance that we would just go ahead and and read it as the second not 387 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,119 do the emergency and a lap to take a p 388 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:30,599 July item 6C first reading and possible action to approve approv with 389 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:37,200 modifications or deny or ordinance number 1377 d224 an ordinance of the 390 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:44,480 city of tala Oklahom amending the tala city code part 17 utilities part 175 391 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:49,200 Solid Waste Department establishment and collection and disposal of solid waste 392 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:54,599 by adding section 17-5 intensive residential developments 393 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,599 providing 394 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:04,280 for lift your page yes providing for 395 00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:08,560 codification separability repealer and declaring an 396 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,800 emergency Solid Waste superintendent Chris 397 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:27,359 Armstrong hello um the reason we're asking to uh 398 00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:32,960 update this and add it is because a lot of of these um Family dwellings have 399 00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:39,599 multiple H like have multiple houses there's you know 10 trailers or there's 400 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:44,200 six duplexes so if these places want carts there's going to be an 401 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:48,640 overabundance of carts like just there a lot of these places have high uh renters 402 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:52,960 they come in and out they come and go this will help protect those uh Property 403 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:58,280 Owners uh from getting their cart stolen because if their resident steals their 404 00:37:54,560 --> 00:38:04,079 cart the um property owners responsible to replace that cart for the cost of $90 405 00:38:00,839 --> 00:38:09,760 so if we have a centralized dumpster that they can go to like that will keep 406 00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:14,920 you know some of these landlord U or Property Owners having to reach into 407 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:21,040 their book to uh pay for these dumpsters so a centralized locations for trailers 408 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:26,640 apartments and duplexes with a larger um housing of four so two two duplexes 409 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:32,800 which would be four units like we're not really about that is just the greater so 410 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:38,640 would these uh be required to have a fence around them like we have at other 411 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:42,760 establishments across the um city I would say so because that's still part 412 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:46,359 of the city code uh if it is tucked away because like a part of the code says 413 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:51,520 that if it's an I view or like in the public view then they have to have it 414 00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:57,520 enclosed but if it is say you have like a like a a u yes and it's tucked off in 415 00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,480 the back then you don't have to so it's like some of these businesses around 416 00:38:58,839 --> 00:39:03,760 here that have it behind their building if our truck can swing it then they 417 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:07,520 don't have to have the enclosure it's just if it's out on the public view so 418 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,200 if you can see it from the road you're supposed to have an 419 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:18,319 enclosure questions as a cost effective measure 420 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:23,000 this you know you know not knowing whether or how 421 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:27,000 many people are going to be affected on building the fences or whatever uh you 422 00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:32,920 think this is going to save not only time money yes uh for us and the 423 00:39:30,359 --> 00:39:36,800 property owners because uh the more stop like the more trash canins you have the 424 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:41,680 more we have to stop and pick it up and dump it so if a hydraulic line breaks 425 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:46,000 it's all over the property um so if you have eight units and they all have two 426 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:50,839 that's 16 times we have to stop but if they have a three yard dumpster we back 427 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:56,119 in we dump it we leave we're not stopping and go and stopping and go 428 00:39:52,440 --> 00:40:00,440 stopping and go so um if everything is paved correctly or Gra TR correctly 429 00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:04,160 we're in and out and our traffic on our side for our vehicles and you know the 430 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:08,040 safety part of it if it snows or anything it's less likely we're going to 431 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:13,880 slide into somebody or hurt anybody or anything like that so um to me it sounds 432 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:17,319 like a a great idea to get in and out and not have to linger around their 433 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:22,400 houses or their cars or anything like that how many locations for these multi 434 00:40:19,839 --> 00:40:27,440 families uh right now I haven't really took a headcount uh I I know on Corn 435 00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:30,560 Street they have some development going uh this was just something I've been 436 00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:37,079 working on just trying to figure out how this can help the community U so to give 437 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:42,000 you an exact number there there's not a lot like bumblebee trailer park over on 438 00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:47,000 Allen uh Vance trailer park and some other ones have already bought into it 439 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:50,920 so we have dumpsters there uh it's just these newer housing developments with 440 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:55,880 these guys coming in building and all this stuff I like to have them plotted 441 00:40:53,040 --> 00:41:01,160 in their layout and their blueprints before and I don't just jump on them and 442 00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:05,480 say hey you got to build this now too so we put it in our ordinance it' be you 443 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:12,400 know up to date for them too did you find out how many locations yeah I mean 444 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:18,040 just kind of you know I just am curious on that yeah I can do that I bring some 445 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:22,200 numbers extra extra work but I'm actually kind of curious Oh no you're 446 00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:29,240 good man like you know keep me keep my due diligence up I got take care of 447 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,240 it anything else 448 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:38,000 we have a motion first reading on that first 449 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:42,760 reading it does include an emergency so if you do wish to approve it as an 450 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,760 emergency you can't approve it's 451 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:53,079 not that's I was gonna ask is this I mean does this need to happen 452 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:56,240 tonight I can get you numbers and come back at second reading okay and then we 453 00:41:55,040 --> 00:42:01,200 go there than you Chris thank you very much 454 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,560 let me just follow up on that mayor at at the last city council meeting our 455 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:09,319 city administrator uh directed me to include an emergency clause on all on 456 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:12,400 all ordinances because the management did not wish to decide for itself what 457 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:17,440 it was and was not an emergency we want to give the council that opportunity 458 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,440 each time thank 459 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:25,119 thank item 6E first reading and possible action to approve approve with 460 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:29,880 modification or deny ordinance number 1378 d224 461 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:35,000 an ordinance of the City of talaa Oklahoma to amend the city code tala 462 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:40,119 city code part 14 streets and Public Works chapter 14-2 use and obstruction 463 00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:45,880 of streets and sidewalks by amending section 14- 217 excavation and streets 464 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:51,400 permits providing for codification separability repealer and declaring an 465 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:55,520 emergency compliance coordinator Ray Hammond mayor and Council I'll I'll try 466 00:42:53,640 --> 00:43:00,720 to mddle through this best I can this is going to be uh an ordinance that's going 467 00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:05,400 to give us some authority of the use of the easements that we have throughout 468 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:09,400 our community uh as of recent we have had some experience with the different 469 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:14,280 contractors coming in using the easements uh you know uh putting in 470 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:18,319 things in the ground in the air uh so forth causes some disruption this gives 471 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:23,319 us some oversight gives us a little bit of whether we want to permit them to do 472 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:29,640 it or not uh I believe this will be a a good uh Avenue to go to try to correct 473 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:34,640 some of the problems uh even still today had to deal with quite a few for some uh 474 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:40,160 uh illegal digs across the streets and curb cuts and Street Cuts uh that uh 475 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:46,280 that happen so uh it'll save a lot of trouble for staff and uh for your 476 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:51,920 residents to for us to have some for uh warning and some oversight as to who 477 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:59,040 gets to use these easements and who does not I think tpwa will certainly 478 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,040 appreciate it as well 479 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:12,079 our recommendation staff recommendation is to pass I just I have one question um 480 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:17,520 so in the ordinance section 14-17 it talks about uh approval and it 481 00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:20,960 says you have to first obtain a permit from the city clerk with the approval of 482 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:25,319 the street commissioner and the superintendent of the municipal Utility 483 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:33,920 Board so I guess I have two part questions one who is that is that 484 00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:39,040 talking Mike doublehead that would be Mike doublehead kimor or their staff 485 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:45,839 that they appoint to to handle that so so we are talking ttwa yes sir and we're 486 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:50,640 only talking ttwa we're not talking not correct no sir they have the poles and 487 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:56,200 the water lines uh that are that are the bulk of the problem sewer lines that was 488 00:44:53,680 --> 00:45:00,480 my assumption but I don't like to assume so I wanted to ask 489 00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:07,119 um then to go along with that if you look up at the top the ne the the page 490 00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:11,359 before the background in the description that I assume Taylor has written it says 491 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:15,280 this ordinance will develop a policy requiring businesses doing work within 492 00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:19,359 the city's RightWay to get a permit that must be approved by the street 493 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:23,280 commissioner and planning director before beginning work so is his 494 00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:28,280 intention to also include the P planning director and if so does that need to be 495 00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:32,240 part of the ordinance because we've spelled out two people in the ordinance 496 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:36,520 that has to be approved which are not the same two people that Taylor has in 497 00:45:34,359 --> 00:45:36,520 the 498 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:43,000 background certainly if that was Mr tanah Hill's intent we would need to 499 00:45:41,839 --> 00:45:46,680 strike the superintendent of the municipal Utility Board and substitute 500 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:52,559 that with the planning director well I assume since it's not okay but I assume 501 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:59,000 since it's not underlined that the superintendent municipal 502 00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:04,440 mici simple Utility Board is current ordinance that's 503 00:46:00,839 --> 00:46:07,920 correct so I just don't I I guess my thought is or is he wanting to add the 504 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:12,760 Planning Commission or does he assume that the 505 00:46:09,839 --> 00:46:19,319 planning the planning you that might be practice that you have to get those but 506 00:46:16,359 --> 00:46:23,480 it's not obviously ordinate certainly right now the planning uh director has 507 00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:25,720 no involvement official involvement in this 508 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,920 process 509 00:46:30,839 --> 00:46:40,200 in my opinion it makes the most sense that the planning director is is is the 510 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:43,240 person I mean they're in my thought process are 511 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:54,920 the to say the person that runs the show in that area but I don't know I mean I I 512 00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:57,800 want to do I I agree in theory of what's Happening Here but I want to make sure 513 00:46:56,599 --> 00:47:04,000 that we're actually passing an ordinance 514 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:12,040 that is what he's expecting and so I don't I don't know um 515 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:18,880 an Andor to be honest with you an Andor and or PL 516 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:23,119 director in in the the concept of when they bring their ATT plans to the TAC 517 00:47:21,319 --> 00:47:26,119 meeting the planning director and the street commissioner are the ones that 518 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:30,400 would be most involved they would jointly be most 519 00:47:27,359 --> 00:47:36,440 involved uh and and I think that they would work jointly in this so I think uh 520 00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:41,920 Andor would be appropriate but I also think that you know both of them have to 521 00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:46,480 have some in some input on this so I mean I would it doesn't bother me to 522 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:52,119 have both there and uh I mean it doesn't mean it doesn't bother me to have all 523 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:55,400 three um but right now we've got two on one side and two on the other and I want 524 00:47:54,640 --> 00:48:03,040 to make yeah I mean if you have if you have 525 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:07,240 tpwa they own the polls right and uh they're they belong to them and and and 526 00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:14,240 we can't as a body give them permission to be used by other utilities without 527 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,240 their permission so you know 528 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:23,960 that's so I guess my suggestion maybe would be to just allow this to be the 529 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:30,520 first reading Mr T Mr tanah Hill will be back by next month 530 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:37,319 um and then at next month we can Amendment amend that 531 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:41,319 correct before we were to potentially pass it on a second 532 00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:52,040 reading uh I am I am U visiting with Mr tanah Hill 533 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:57,920 here he is unable to join us on uh Zoom here 534 00:48:53,680 --> 00:49:04,920 uh he says it should be tpw uh planning director could be included 535 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:10,720 but and I hope he's listening here U he he wants us to be the street 536 00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:13,920 commissioner and tpwa appears to be uh indifferent on the planning 537 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:25,200 director I think it's imperative that you have the street commissioner and 538 00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:28,720 tpwa just because of what I've had to deal with in the last 10 months 539 00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:34,079 months but planning director would be awesome to have on that as well they're 540 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,200 going to she's going to be working with them 541 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:43,160 anyway but you're saying Taylor is different about whether or not he needs 542 00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:45,720 to be there or not the planning director yes he's indiffer with the planning 543 00:49:44,359 --> 00:49:49,119 director needs to have an official role in this would that would that slow down 544 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:52,280 the process for people that are jumping if they had to have all three people 545 00:49:50,839 --> 00:49:57,680 there every time a decision had to be made about this um it well the decision 546 00:49:56,119 --> 00:50:01,920 would be made and they would they would present a plan for the entire city so it 547 00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:06,520 wouldn't slow them down because all three of them would be in on those plans 548 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:10,119 now uh if if they were coming in and just doing it by peac maill then yes but 549 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:14,799 they they don't do that they usually come with an entire plan of of the 550 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:20,480 entire city so uh I don't think it's going to slow them down uh but again I 551 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:26,200 think uh our street commissioner and our our Public Works is going to always uh 552 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:32,000 lean towards that Tac committee to make sure that they have input from them and 553 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:37,079 this permit has to go before that committee before yes before they start 554 00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:40,079 digging before they start hanging 555 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:50,359 okay if Taylor Mr tanning Hill has has said you know that the intent is to 556 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:55,040 leave the ordinance as is only add public right away then I'm I'm 557 00:50:52,839 --> 00:50:59,119 absolutely fine with that as well we've got a lot going on right now so 558 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:03,760 so Mo a motion to approve because it's got an emergency 559 00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:07,359 clause on it correct if you were to approve we will need approve the 560 00:51:04,799 --> 00:51:11,319 emergency clause for to take effect yes we do that we have to do that separately 561 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:15,960 or that's correct must be separate so I'll make the first motion to approve 562 00:51:13,319 --> 00:51:21,240 I'll second okay I do have a question just to clarify with it being the first 563 00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:25,559 reading just make sure that we can there's not problema does it necessary 564 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:30,280 qualify to have reading under the city Charter all 565 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:33,960 ordinances must have a second reading unless that ordinance is declared an 566 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:37,799 emergency so if you declare if you approve it tonight but don't for some 567 00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:42,000 reason don't declare an emergency it is not approved it must come back at the 568 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,000 next 569 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:52,480 meeting councilor Allen yes councelor hirers yes councelor 570 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:58,280 Baker yes councelor Perry yes motion Carri motion to declare this an 571 00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:02,640 emergency I'll second councelor Allen yes 572 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:10,480 councelor hirers yes councelor Baker yes councelor 573 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,480 Perry yes motion 574 00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:19,280 carried item 6f discussion and possible action to approve approve with 575 00:52:16,799 --> 00:52:25,520 modification or deny accepting the bid amount of $84,500 from Calin and sense 576 00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:30,799 roofing for the senior citizens roof improvements compliance coordinator Ray 577 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:35,599 Hammond and City attorney JT Hammond 578 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:39,119 noted well we actually are we found out we're distant 579 00:52:36,839 --> 00:52:44,520 cousins so there uh yes this is uh we went out for 580 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:51,000 bid for replacement of the roof of senior citizen is much needed uh 581 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:57,200 application on that building uh we got I believe six bids back in uh six or seven 582 00:52:55,079 --> 00:53:06,119 U anyhow we had uh the low bid uh which was 583 00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:12,599 64,000 67 67,000 and then the second bid was 584 00:53:08,119 --> 00:53:17,000 84,500 and uh after review uh and I'll I'll let Esquire take over at this point 585 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:21,280 but uh he can do the verbiage better than I but we we did choose a bidder 586 00:53:19,720 --> 00:53:24,839 City staff is recommending you go with the second low bidder as we've done 587 00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:29,240 before whenever you're going with the non- low bidder you must give a reason 588 00:53:26,839 --> 00:53:33,640 in the record for that uh this is the statement staff would ask city council 589 00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:38,079 to adopt as the lowest bid is significantly under staff's estimate of 590 00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:42,799 the project cost the city finds the lowest bid to not be the BET lowest 591 00:53:40,119 --> 00:53:42,799 responsible 592 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,040 bid to 593 00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:02,480 approve councelor 594 00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:06,240 Baker were you did you make the motion I'm sorry I did not make the motion I 595 00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:12,640 councelor Alan can I have a question to your motion if you don't mind yes um 596 00:54:10,319 --> 00:54:16,240 responsible that kind of terminology is very 597 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:27,640 vague is it can we what I'm having a problem with is is 598 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:33,359 understanding you know qualifiable I think is 599 00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:38,640 a when talking about a bit is it qualifiable I mean do we understand it 600 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:43,119 do we actually see where I'm just trying to you know clarify the words 601 00:54:40,799 --> 00:54:49,359 responsible so as using the state's competitive bidding uh laws U the goal 602 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:53,880 of the competitive bidding acts are twofold and only twofold it's to ensure 603 00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:58,839 the taxpayer one is to ensure the Integrity of the of the bidding process 604 00:54:55,839 --> 00:55:03,400 itself so for example uh I'll pick on my long lost cousin here uh he could not 605 00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:07,440 submit a bid for a city project because there's a fear of nepotism we have to 606 00:55:05,319 --> 00:55:12,520 protect so we just have if he were to bid we have a genuine concern about the 607 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:17,079 the fairness of the process so we would reject a bid from Mr Hammond on the 608 00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:21,200 grounds that the bidding process may be susceptible to 609 00:55:18,119 --> 00:55:26,359 nepotism the second prong is to Ure the taxpayer the taxpayers actually receive 610 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:33,400 the project at the lowest possible price price if the city staff is concerned 611 00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:37,520 that given the disparity between our internal estimates of what this project 612 00:55:35,119 --> 00:55:41,520 should cost and the bids actually received by the low bidder we don't feel 613 00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:44,839 that it will actually be done for that cost that change order after change 614 00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:50,200 order will become forward and the project will ultimately cost 615 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:55,240 more so we are going the staff recommends that we go with the second 616 00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:58,240 low bid as the lowest responsible bidder 617 00:56:00,359 --> 00:56:04,160 Allen yes councelor 618 00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:13,640 hirers yes councelor Baker yes councelor Perry 619 00:56:10,839 --> 00:56:13,640 yes motion 620 00:56:15,799 --> 00:56:24,039 carried item 6G discussion and possible action to approve or deny granting the 621 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:28,839 mayor the authority authority to request from okoma Department of Transportation 622 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:35,160 the closure of the intersection at mimosa and Highway 51 bypass compliance 623 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:41,400 coordinator Ray Hammond R Council this is the intersection across from uh where 624 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:47,640 RibCrib uh Citra 21 goes on across to McDonald's and uh reers on the back side 625 00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:52,520 uh we've had uh over the years many many accidents there uh there's certainly a 626 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:57,000 Hotpot for the police department and the fire department and 627 00:56:53,880 --> 00:57:03,079 EMS uh we have done some re research on it the the state is uh going to 628 00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:08,000 permanently close that in the future uh and due to our road construction that we 629 00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:11,280 have going on now in the city uh it is a concern that a lot of people are going 630 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:15,760 to be cutting through and trying to dodge some of that road construction and 631 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:21,359 use that as an Avenue increasing uh accidents in that area spoke with uh 632 00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:25,039 Chris Wallace with ODOT he is uh amicable and saying he would like to 633 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:32,119 come over here if we wished if the council uh is of mind to go ahead and 634 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:37,920 close that temporary as a cross street until uh it is permanently made that way 635 00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:42,880 which hopefully when we start the new Road between mimosa and Park Hill that's 636 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:48,640 they're going to work jointly with us at the same time on that project so uh this 637 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:55,880 is something that I brought up with the 911 board uh police Fire 638 00:57:52,119 --> 00:58:01,039 EMS uh and uh they've all and Sheriff's Department and they've all agreed that 639 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:05,280 it is the the right thing to do uh I haven't rely talked to anybody that's 640 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:09,640 opposed to it so it is Staff recommendation and those others 641 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:17,680 recommendation that we go ahead and temporarily close the cross uh Avenue of 642 00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:24,319 uh mimosa and the bypass until it is permanently fixed that 643 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:31,000 way um I have one question as to the road trying to divert traffic and so 644 00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:36,920 forth we do plan on the oncoming future at least to my understanding of going 645 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:44,039 from Osa to Park Hill with a through road that sir that 646 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:49,359 road if you're if you're headed uh North on Mimosa or coming off of mimosa the 647 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:54,240 head north uh north and west there you can turn right uh you will be able to 648 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:59,880 turn right and go through that dead end across the backside of uh the real 649 00:58:56,839 --> 00:59:03,319 estate company there uh Banker cwell there'll be a new road put in there 650 00:59:01,359 --> 00:59:07,400 where you can access Park Hill Road and hit the light and then you can go left 651 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:10,799 or right we are giving them giving them a safer opport giving them another 652 00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:14,599 opportunity to be able to go through there and go left and right at a 653 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:19,440 stoplight that's controlled and not high speed of mechanism of injury only have 654 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:23,319 block or two away yes sir so they can still so people going to talico Drug 655 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:27,319 Company McDonald's they can still use mahany there's just not going to be that 656 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:34,240 jut off of mosa you won't be able to turn right there yes so that's what cor 657 00:59:30,799 --> 00:59:37,839 down so there's that that awkward that awkward kind of a why that goes that way 658 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:41,799 that you're going to take out so that you don't have merging traffic and 659 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:48,039 people waiting back no no no no this will be in the center median between of 660 00:59:45,319 --> 00:59:52,880 the bypass that goes from the the Northwest side of mimosa okay to the 661 00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:58,319 southeast side of mimosa you won't be able to Jet across four lanes of traffic 662 00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:04,039 come out to Mimosa and then you could turn right but you couldn't go straight 663 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:12,559 across the straight across will be close correct right or 664 01:00:08,599 --> 01:00:16,799 correct correct not right correct because you couldn't go straight across 665 01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:23,440 because that intersection yes but you can go the talic 666 01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:27,720 lumber the light go left or right I'm just making sure I really 667 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:32,359 understand and because that's just a nightmare that area over there 668 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:43,119 yeah and I think that is there any way that we could uh inform the public you 669 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:48,880 know that this is coming uh well through this meeting through uh our website our 670 01:00:46,319 --> 01:00:53,280 Facebook uh we will be able to let the public know that it's coming ODOT would 671 01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:59,079 I'm sure would be glad to share it on theirs as well uh it be much like uh a 672 01:00:57,119 --> 01:01:04,520 lot of other things we we will notify the public as well as we can uh we can 673 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:09,000 do we have our newspaper with us here tonight I'm sure she will probably uh 674 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:13,200 mention it as well and I want to make a statement real 675 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:20,200 quick um there's been if I'm correct 46 or is 676 01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:22,960 it 47 Rex in the last six years we had two this last week so there's probably 677 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:30,319 48 48 um I can say when that by pass was 678 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:35,119 created in 1985 that intersection alone we had a wreck uh and I was a part of 679 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:39,799 that and it was just basically CA of someone Crossing that road and I I do 680 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:46,839 think this is a real a large safety problem as well as it will hopefully 681 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:55,319 deviate traffic to other avenues that's causing some of the problems uh in the 682 01:01:50,119 --> 01:02:00,039 neighborhoods as well uh that uh are part of the 683 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:03,839 that intersection so I would make the motion 684 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:14,160 to it was your to approve motion to approve 685 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:19,319 closure I believe it's a request for the mayor to be able to make that contact 686 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:24,440 with the OD do I've got to ask the question have 687 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:29,960 have we communicated with Taco drug company or McDonald's or any of the of 688 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:34,520 those because the only issue that I have and I agree I agree that it's that's a 689 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:39,839 really dangerous area but the only issue that I have is is you know 690 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:44,880 now people that are using going to McDonald's and and that area they're 691 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:49,240 it's G to be kind of difficult to get there if you're coming from you know and 692 01:02:46,839 --> 01:02:52,160 I know you can't have everything but I just wanted to know like is this going 693 01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:56,920 to be just like a a huge issue for them have they been 694 01:02:55,200 --> 01:03:01,119 contacted they been consulted at all those those those you 695 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:07,039 know those businesses that are right there with you know I I have not 696 01:03:03,559 --> 01:03:12,520 personally spoke with Tel drug in that area uh I could just 697 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:17,839 say just the public outc for this thing has been for years okay Mr hmon you and 698 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:21,240 I spoke or before the meeting it's my understanding that ODOT has already 699 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:27,319 approved the permanent closure absolutely this is going to happen by 700 01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:32,240 temporarily closing it gives the public frankly more time to get to get used to 701 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:37,520 the new reality and just to be clear that is OD 702 01:03:34,839 --> 01:03:41,400 Do's perview that's their area that's they have authority there so this is 703 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:45,960 going to be closed and they've already deemed that to happen we're just uh uh 704 01:03:44,319 --> 01:03:52,160 moving it forward a little quicker because we continue to have damage 705 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:58,480 injury and accident in that area okay perfect I just I have 706 01:03:54,559 --> 01:04:03,039 to I I agree with this in theory but I 707 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:07,599 really have been trying to wrap my head around this in practice because I think 708 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:11,520 that that intersection at well the Walmart 709 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:17,000 intersection I mean that's what everybody calls it is if not the most 710 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:23,640 dangerous but it's the most frustrating intersection in talaa for a plethora of 711 01:04:20,599 --> 01:04:29,319 reasons but it even becomes more frustrating if now now people are 712 01:04:26,279 --> 01:04:32,279 waiting in line to do nothing but uturn because what they've done is they've 713 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:35,160 come out the right and they needed U-turn to go 714 01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:44,640 left and I are are we just putting I mean I so again in theory I think I 715 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:49,240 totally agree with what's happening but in practice are we putting the cart 716 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:54,000 before the horse a little bit by not having the other outlets the other 717 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:58,400 outlet that they can get to the light at tallet ball Lumber and then and connect 718 01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:02,720 up I mean do we need shouldn't we be building that road 719 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:07,680 I mean if we're building that road we bought the land now it's ready to build 720 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:11,119 the load the road to connect from Park Hill 721 01:05:09,020 --> 01:05:18,279 [Music] to Mimosa rainy not Mimosa it's rain 722 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:22,960 manahy or Mimosa actually just on that side and I think you're also creating 723 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:25,319 before we close the the outlet I mean because then all you're going to do 724 01:05:24,039 --> 01:05:28,680 because you're still going to have people that are going they're now 725 01:05:27,279 --> 01:05:33,760 turning right they're getting to the intersection they're u-turning to come 726 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:37,000 back in to go to research or go to yeah and I think you're going to have 727 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:43,200 a lot of people now funneling through the research parking lot yeah and I and 728 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:48,039 I think I think we really need a I think we need a really good solution 729 01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:53,000 to get to I don't know if there is one but we really need to to think about I 730 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:58,480 mean I I agree that that's really dangerous but to create more problems s 731 01:05:56,079 --> 01:06:05,799 by stopping one problem I think saving a life is more I agree I just I just 732 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:09,640 Council if if I can try this um that don't I don't think this should be a 733 01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:15,240 straw man issue by saying if we vote against it we're like voting to have 734 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:21,079 people pass away on the intersection from car wreckage but I think that it's 735 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:26,079 got to be in theory you've got to have a theory you've got to have a a plan in 736 01:06:24,359 --> 01:06:32,400 place I councilman if I can um because these are 737 01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:38,799 roads under the jurisdiction of ODOT um no matter what we do tonight uh it's 738 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:44,359 purely advisory to ODOT ODOT if we said no don't do this ODOT could could put a 739 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:48,559 temporary close sign in the morning uh given that ODOT has already indicated 740 01:06:46,279 --> 01:06:51,599 this is going to happen uh it's certainly best for us to start putting 741 01:06:50,319 --> 01:06:55,640 together a plan of what that looks like on the other side I mean this is going 742 01:06:53,160 --> 01:07:00,039 to happen do you do we know when OD going to close it down yes they're going 743 01:06:57,319 --> 01:07:04,200 to work in conjunction with us uh whenever we start the road uh and I 744 01:07:02,279 --> 01:07:07,400 don't have a date but whenever we start the road to go over to Park Hill they're 745 01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:11,039 going to do it all together so it's going to cause uh you know it's 746 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:15,920 construction so it's going to cause some confusion uh no matter what so there's 747 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:20,400 if we do it now it's just going to get people I think prepared more for what 748 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:23,760 they're fixing to have and and if they don't need to be in that area they'll 749 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:26,960 stay away from it till it's complete and if they do then uh they they'll know how 750 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:33,640 to navigate that's just my my 751 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:38,200 thoughts I I don't I don't have a I don't have a wish one way or the other 752 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:45,480 but I do know that it is a very very crazy hot spot for EMS police and fire 753 01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:45,480 they have to work a lot of accidents 754 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:55,680 there and I think you have somebody at the 755 01:07:52,240 --> 01:08:00,279 podium thank you why can't they put in light just like down at for Street 756 01:07:57,079 --> 01:08:04,480 Lumber it does not meet the requirements because it's too close together to the 757 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:08,720 next light and that's odot's official statement and we've asked that we cried 758 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:13,319 for like years and years ago uh Street Department did council did people did 759 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:18,640 ODOT said they're too close together between Mogi and uh Park Hill if we put 760 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:24,000 another one there we they violate their own rules so they said No Light have 761 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:27,400 more accident to's parking lot well and and and yes and 762 01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:33,120 that on reers I'm just asking I don't know I'm 763 01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:36,920 not an engineer uh but I do know that reers in theory has always been said 764 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:41,480 that's actually a street that goes through there anyway because we do keep 765 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:46,400 it striped and we do the parking lot there reers is actually a street on the 766 01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:51,480 outside of so go ahead uh so just coming from the guy that works the street like 767 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:54,880 every day um brain is like that's the road that goes straight across from 768 01:08:52,759 --> 01:09:00,319 Walmart to Burger King and it goes all the way behind research so it is legal 769 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:05,440 to drive through a parking lot to get to another location unless you're going to 770 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:11,759 set store so this would also help them like maneuver like behind I use it and 771 01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:17,239 it's not closing down the access to Mosa you can actually turn right and it's not 772 01:09:13,239 --> 01:09:24,120 illegal to make a u-turn at tall Lumber so right now uh yes it would be an 773 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:27,759 inconvenience but I mean like we're going to put you know safety first or we 774 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:31,640 going to put convenience first which I know the research parking lot you know 775 01:09:29,679 --> 01:09:36,440 that aspect you know we may have to put a patrol car there you know might have 776 01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:39,640 to enforce that cut through but just throwing that out there there are roads 777 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:43,799 back there that are supposed to be traveled that aren't because even if you 778 01:09:41,480 --> 01:09:47,319 go to McDonald's from the resers parking lot you're going against the grain and 779 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:51,279 you can't turn to go through the drive-thru again and even if you go 780 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:56,840 straight through the parking lot the parking spots are slided to the east so 781 01:09:54,640 --> 01:10:00,480 if you're coming in in you're still not able to parkk does that make sense so 782 01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:04,400 it's a lot of grain they're going against but there are roads there so and 783 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:08,600 I and I agree I just think like what Stephen was saying I just think we need 784 01:10:05,719 --> 01:10:13,719 to really just sit down and get a plan and um into place for this area because 785 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:19,400 I think we've all since we've been in tala for so long um that whole South End 786 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:23,480 you know we all have experienced that you know maybe we could do things 787 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:27,159 have grown a little bit differently but we just are where we're at and you know 788 01:10:25,159 --> 01:10:32,120 the the traffic there is just horrendous so I think a plan really and I'm sure 789 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:36,040 that you guys probably have a lot of thoughts on that but just to just to 790 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:40,040 inform everybody and to make sure we're all on the same page I know that we're 791 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:44,360 rambling on make one final comment and I know we have a speaker but I I'll I'll 792 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:47,920 say this um the gentleman that probably would be a good person to contact is a 793 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:53,000 gentleman by the name of Bob Coburn c o b RN uh Mr Cobrin is the former mayor of 794 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:55,880 the city of Mogi he has since been appointed this area of Oklahoma as 795 01:10:54,640 --> 01:11:01,280 representative to the ODOT Transportation Commission uh he would be 796 01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:06,159 very interested in hearing what tal has to say about this so he can Advocate our 797 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:10,080 community's views to the to the agency what was that name one time Bob cobr C O 798 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:15,280 B RN yes um I actually had a son who had a 799 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:21,000 record that intersection and told the vehicle and it is dangerous part of the 800 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:24,960 problem though is the speed limit from Park Hill down to the intersection the 801 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:28,760 Walmart intersection by Chili's and everything 802 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:34,920 I think that when they're closing that they need to study the speed limit 803 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:40,679 between Park Hill Road and U Mogi Avenue because people come flying through there 804 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:45,560 which is what happened to my son um this woman was quite a ways away but she was 805 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:50,639 going 65 miles an hour eating burrito and um so I really do think if 806 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:55,400 you know if they're going to be doing this while they're at it they need to 807 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:59,760 consider slowing people down maybe even putting up flashing lights so that they 808 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:03,639 see you know the speed limit has changed and you know and they need to slow down 809 01:12:01,679 --> 01:12:07,960 because people do come blind through there and I don't think closing that 810 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:11,560 cross intersection is going to stop that they're going to continue to just barrel 811 01:12:09,719 --> 01:12:15,480 down through there I mean while they're doing the construction on the bridge 812 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:19,239 right now yes people are slower but when that opens back up it's a it's a freeway 813 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:25,239 and they just come flying down through there so I would suggest or ask if that 814 01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:31,040 can be you know brought up in the plans we're closing that thank you thank you I 815 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:35,600 can speak to what uh ODOT has attested that they uh they have done a study on 816 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:40,600 the speed limit through there they agree with what the lady said uh people do 817 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:45,159 come around there too fast uh they but it's it's not unlike a lot of other 818 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:49,639 places in our town the difference is is that particular part has an intersection 819 01:12:47,159 --> 01:12:55,800 where people Collide if they turn left and they take off like crazy going east 820 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:59,480 or west uh you don't have the Collision that you have like you do because 821 01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:06,360 there's a stoplight there that assists it at Mimosa there's no stoplight 822 01:13:03,159 --> 01:13:10,080 so if you turn if you're coming in South you're coming in from the south north 823 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:14,840 you turn left and you head out towards Phoenix Park or the airport you're still 824 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:20,080 going fast but there's a stoplight to regulate you there and there's not one 825 01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:20,080 at mimosa and there's not going to be 826 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:31,239 one so I think I in theory I like what I think the 827 01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:39,600 spirit of this is and so I would be for giving the mayor the authority to 828 01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:47,440 start the conversation with ODOT about you know what can we do but I I do think 829 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:51,040 that there in my head it's not just as easy as let's close down this 830 01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:54,320 intersection and then say that we've done our good deed and move forward 831 01:13:53,040 --> 01:14:01,239 because I think then all we're going to do is we've now Kick the Can down 832 01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:07,080 to other intersections to stop lights one that you can access easily one that 833 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:10,960 you can't to get anywhere else and then and I you're just gonna have people 834 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:18,400 turning you I mean it's going to be U-turn Central from 4:30 to 6 835 01:14:15,480 --> 01:14:24,520 o'clock on in an already busy intersection that half the time people 836 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:27,040 you can't turn left if you're coming from the 837 01:14:28,199 --> 01:14:39,199 West you can't turn I think it's West if you're coming 838 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:39,199 from like a car wash which 839 01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:47,080 one whatever I I also would people are in the intersection we all know 840 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:50,280 everybody in this room is notd in their heads they know what I'm talking about 841 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:54,400 right and I I also understand I I get it if 842 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:58,000 they're going to close it down anyway but to me 843 01:14:56,040 --> 01:15:01,960 it's going to be down the road I'm not comfortable making a decision without 844 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:05,760 communicating with the businesses that could be 845 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:10,120 impacted without I don't I don't want them to just feel like where did this 846 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:16,080 come from resar well you know all of these businesses that depend on traffic 847 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:20,600 and I don't want to create a I I just I don't want to jump I I would much rather 848 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:23,639 do this going in with everybody knowing what's happening and getting the 849 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:29,320 opportunity to give their input um that's that's what I feel I 850 01:15:26,719 --> 01:15:32,400 mean I I just would I I know that we're talking about Public Safety but at the 851 01:15:30,719 --> 01:15:39,840 same time if there something that we can make a decision on and get everybody's 852 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:43,639 opinion and then make make a more educated like like I don't want to I 853 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:47,440 don't want to I don't want to say something that everybody else is gonna 854 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:52,920 come and say I had no idea this was on the meeting I said tonight to to JT I 855 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:56,760 said uh you know we've never had anybody say no they don't want this everybody 856 01:15:54,520 --> 01:16:01,040 wants until we do it and then somebody's going to say no they didn't want it uh 857 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:04,560 that's just the way things are I have talked to a few of the people around 858 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:10,159 there that are in business and they all say why isn't the city doing something 859 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:14,040 to close this intersection I've never heard anyone say oh no they need to 860 01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:17,600 leave it open everybody's like they need to do something these are the businesses 861 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:22,600 that are right close by I won't name them out publicly but that that's that's 862 01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:27,000 certainly what has been said to me well and I would think in my mind my answer 863 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:32,840 to that would be we are doing something which is why we bought the land behind 864 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:38,600 Coldwell to form the road between Park Hill to rain Mia Mahan and Mimosa to 865 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:44,560 give an outlet that way there's an outlet a safer place for people to come 866 01:16:41,679 --> 01:16:49,960 from that area to Park Hill Road to now you're at a light that you can go right 867 01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:54,920 or left from so in my head this whole time I've been thinking that is the 868 01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:58,560 Avenue that we're trying to take to make this a safer 869 01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:07,679 intersection and now we've just jumped in in my opinion that maybe we couldn't 870 01:17:02,440 --> 01:17:14,320 we're on step you know C when we just skip step B but that's just me I mean 871 01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:18,520 I'm just I did forget one one particular uh person that that uh was in on the 872 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,800 conversation and he did say that yes it was a very good idea to go ahead and 873 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:24,080 shut it down that was our street commissioner he was very much in 874 01:17:22,679 --> 01:17:29,199 agreeance with that it need to be done so not that that's an influence it's 875 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:33,760 just that I did talk to all the players as far as emergency personnel and the uh 876 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:38,520 the street Personnel to find out where they stood and that's that's pretty much 877 01:17:36,199 --> 01:17:42,960 all I have to say about that Chief Baker do you have anything that you would want 878 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:47,280 to add from a professional observation not to put you on the spot 879 01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:50,960 but you showed up not to put you on the spot but come 880 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:56,520 to the microphone and tell us what you think zoom in on the camera I mean I 881 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:59,520 agree with Ray I mean it's it's a bad intersection it's been a bad 882 01:17:57,480 --> 01:18:03,679 intersection for a long time it's I think when they develop the bypass you 883 01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:10,520 know when you develop bypass and started having these roads you just tee into it 884 01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:14,639 um is a bad is a bad recipe for disaster I mean my opinion which is today is a 885 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:19,639 bad day to say this because we had a bad wreck on that but to me a roundabout 886 01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:24,080 would be a good solution for there in rainy um I've traveled on different 887 01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:28,639 places that have them all over and I mean they seem to flow a lot easier slow 888 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:33,000 people down and you still have your outs but I would say it's a very bad 889 01:18:36,639 --> 01:18:39,639 intersection 890 01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:50,040 professional and it is inevitable inev I think the more frustrating part 891 01:18:47,239 --> 01:18:53,040 is we've been debating an issue for 20 minutes that we really have no control 892 01:18:51,560 --> 01:19:00,199 over because we're just saying can the mayor send a letter to OD do saying 893 01:18:55,800 --> 01:19:08,520 please maybe if you deem it necessary oh grade funds 894 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:12,920 so but I think in my mind in spirit I I think that this is worth having the 895 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:17,440 conversation and so I will make a motion to 896 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:20,520 approve that motion well then I'll second it thank you 897 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:31,960 sir counc Baker yes counc h highers yes councelor Alan 898 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,960 no councelor per 899 01:19:33,199 --> 01:19:39,480 yes car Carri it did when did you come 900 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:50,360 in oh good have a okay we are now gonna go into 901 01:19:46,639 --> 01:19:50,360 executive session do I have a motion to 902 01:19:53,639 --> 01:19:56,639 do 903 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:03,679 coun yes coun yes 904 01:20:23,639 --> 01:20:26,639 yes 905 01:20:53,639 --> 01:20:56,639 e 906 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,560 e 907 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,520 e 908 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,520 e 909 01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:56,440 e 910 01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:26,440 e 911 01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:56,440 e 912 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,320 e 913 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,320 e 914 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,320 e 915 01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:56,239 e 916 01:26:23,239 --> 01:26:26,239 e 917 01:26:53,239 --> 01:26:56,239 e 918 01:27:23,119 --> 01:27:26,119 e 919 01:27:53,119 --> 01:27:56,119 e 920 01:28:23,119 --> 01:28:26,119 e 921 01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,040 e 922 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,040 e 923 01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:56,040 e 924 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,960 e 925 01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,920 e 926 01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,920 e 927 01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,840 e 928 01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:25,840 e 929 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,840 e 930 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,760 e 931 01:33:52,719 --> 01:33:55,719 e 932 01:34:22,719 --> 01:34:25,719 e 933 01:34:52,639 --> 01:34:55,639 e 934 01:35:22,639 --> 01:35:25,639 e 935 01:35:52,639 --> 01:35:55,639 e 936 01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,560 e 937 01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,520 e 938 01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:25,520 e 939 01:37:52,440 --> 01:37:55,440 e 940 01:38:22,440 --> 01:38:25,440 e 941 01:38:51,239 --> 01:38:58,679 name is 706 real come back into session honorable mayor members of the council 942 01:38:57,159 --> 01:39:02,000 the council did meet an executive session as authorized by state law only 943 01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:06,239 those items listed on the agenda were discussed no votes were taken no polls 944 01:39:04,440 --> 01:39:13,719 cast however at this time I do believe a proper motion would be to approve the 945 01:39:08,679 --> 01:39:22,360 2024 2025 contract with the fop Lodge 2011 second hang on kids I approve 22 946 01:39:20,480 --> 01:39:25,360 2425 cont 947 01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:37,840 okay motion we have first a second councel councelor hirers yes councelor 948 01:39:35,159 --> 01:39:44,760 Allen yes councelor Baker yes councelor Perry yes motion carried on Item B no 949 01:39:41,239 --> 01:39:48,960 action is required at this time on item C I believe appropriate motion would be 950 01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:57,000 to authorize the City attorney to engage the law firm of crow dunlevy to 951 01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:57,000 represent the city in case number cj2 952 01:39:58,440 --> 01:40:08,159 24-6 councelor Allan yes councelor HS yes councelor Baker yes councelor Perry 953 01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:12,960 yes motion carried we are adjourned at 7