[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [1:03] Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. [3:14] I call to order a gender review of August 5th, 2025. [3:17] Clerk, please call the roll. [3:19] Melden, here. [3:21] Morris, Seranto, here. [3:24] Williams, Driscoll, here. [3:27] Okay. [3:27] Gattis, here, Hartman, Hobbs, Jones, here, Colmeyves, Martinez, did [3:39] he say? [3:41] Okay. [3:42] Martin. [3:44] I'm sorry, I said it was present. [3:45] Oh, okay. [3:46] McPherson. [3:48] He corrupted. [3:49] Here. [3:52] Poor him present. [3:53] Off to a rip-row and start. [3:56] Let's begin with new items from the administration. [4:04] Fireway. [4:05] All right. [4:06] Good afternoon, councilmembers. [4:07] Branded Sowers, Director of Economic Development, joined by Director Dale M. Director of the law department to present items one and two on your agenda. [4:16] Thank you for carving out an hour of time last week to have a committee hearing regarding these items. [4:22] As you are mostly all aware, we have two items on your agenda related to the Rossford Jet Agreement. [4:29] I'm actually going to talk about item two first. [4:32] Item two amends the agreement with Rossford for the joint economic development zone. [4:37] And also authorizes the finance director to create a special revenue account. [4:42] That special revenue account code is what is related to item number one on your agenda. [4:48] Where we amend the Toledo Municipal Code to specifically place that special revenue account code within the Toledo Municipal Code. [4:56] I'm happy to answer any questions or [5:00] I have been to any more details as you see fit. Thank you. [5:06] Thank you, Councilman Driscoll. Thank you, Chair. I should have asked this last week. What happens to the money before it's used? Are we investing in short-term treasuries, just sitting in an interest bearing account? Once we have board the CIC? [5:31] I could ask if Director Campbell could come up and maybe answer that question. Yes. Thank you. [5:37] Good afternoon, Council. [5:39] The funds would be invested according to the city's investment policy. [5:44] That could be in Starr, Ohio, or other investments. [5:48] We'd of course work with direct or sell horse on when the money might be used. [5:52] So we're not investing it out longer than when the funds might need to be used. [5:57] And what ever proceeds come from that stay in TCIC. [6:01] Yes. [6:02] Okay, thank you. [6:06] Thank you. [6:07] I have a question for you. [6:09] Again, I mean, we had a great hearing, so any question could have been asked last week. [6:17] Just think about a general timeline of when you, we might begin to see this new machine, [6:26] you know, put some smoke in the air, doing some work, when will, when will we start to see something [6:31] you think, what's the timeline of that? [6:33] So the next step in this process would be for council to appoint the board or to confirm the mayors [6:38] appointments. I think it's important to have the board in place. The board in my mind would do a retreat. [6:43] We would talk about the use of the CIC, how CICs have been utilized in other communities. [6:47] Then there will be a discussion on strategy, strategy about sites that are ideal for job creation projects, [6:55] ideal for housing projects. And I think that we would, as a board, create a strategy and implement that strategy. [7:02] So the funding will come in immediately as a part of this project. [7:05] But I think we need to build the strategy and be strategic with this funding. [7:09] It is a lot of money, but in the grand scheme of brown field redevelopment, it's really not a lot of money. [7:15] So we need to be strategic about where we invest it, how we grow it. [7:19] And if there's the ability to utilize this funding to attract outside funding sources to create our objectives with this. [7:27] So ideally, it's right of way that we would put this to work. [7:31] My goal is to have a Toledo CIC meeting, if not several meetings before the end of the year, [7:37] which is why Council approves this today, the board appointments are in vision to be on your next agenda. [7:47] Good to hear. [7:52] Good start to the meeting for me to chair it, I was about to make a recommendation. [7:58] But no, please, I'm not going to do that until you talk, Councilwoman McPherson. [8:02] I thank you, Councilman Meldin. [8:05] The question you just stated that if this is approved next Tuesday, then board appointments [8:18] would be the following or correct. [8:24] On your next, the next council meeting, we would have the board appointments, that's correct. [8:29] Okay. Board appointments are made by the mayor. [8:34] Mayor makes a recommendation, Council confirms. [8:38] But Council could give recommendations to the mayor. [8:42] Yes. [8:43] Okay. Just want to be clear on that. [8:46] All right. [8:47] Thank you. [8:47] Yeah. [8:50] Great. [8:51] So for item one, I'll recommend SEP. [8:56] You're asking SEP on all three. [8:57] SEP, please. [8:58] Yeah. [8:58] two SEP and for item three, SEP, thank you. [9:03] Thank you. [9:05] On to four from Department of Finance. [9:17] Oh look at that, number three. [9:19] My name was next to all of them, it's completely on a stake. [9:25] Not without some talking, sir. [9:35] Let's stick with the Department of Development just for a minute and go to item number three, [9:40] be instead. Sorry, everyone. [9:44] No, thank you, Council members. We're here today to present some amendments to Chapter [9:49] 13, which is building inspection for the most part. This is mostly a cleanup where originally [9:59] building inspection. [9:59] action. [10:00] That was in economic and business development as a department. So there are 21 times, we're changing from economic and business development into building and code compliance as the department. That's probably the biggest change that you'll see on here. We did make some amendments to just specifying what is allowed to not have a permit, I guess is a better way to say it. [10:28] Or what you can, and we broke it down to make it more clarified for [10:33] between residential and commercial so that the public can better understand when it is required to ever permit, when it is not required to permit. [10:41] We have, it was, it was even on the agenda here, there is a part of the code that was in conflict with the Ohio building code. [10:48] That said that all certificates of occupancy did require fire prevention bureaus approval. [10:56] which is contrary to the higher building code, which says that once all the inspections and permits have been issued, and final inspections have been completed, the how building code says that the Department of Building Aspections shall issue, it doesn't say immediately, but it says shall issue the certificate of occupancy, so there was a conflict between the how building code and the Toledo Municipal Code. [11:23] So it cleans up that. [11:25] We also cleaned up and added a section for partial demolitions. [11:29] Like if you have a project, let's use the specific building, for example, [11:34] that you don't necessarily know what the final plan is going to be. [11:39] The way that our demolition permits would require in order to do a partial demolition. [11:47] It would make you have the full building plans submitted at that same time in order to get the [11:52] the demolition permit, we're now making a little bit more, what's the word? [11:58] Well, no more friendly, so if that projects can, they can get the demolition done and [12:02] then figure out what the final, because a lot of times if you're doing demolition, you're [12:06] going to discover things and you're going to have to change your building plans again. [12:09] And this kind of makes it a little bit more streamlined, a little more efficient and encourages [12:13] development, at least that's our hopes. [12:17] There was a change where there was a line in the old property maintenance code that [12:24] said you had to have a certain heat supply for structures, for mostly residential [12:30] properties, but in the code it just said from the words date to date. [12:36] So we did actually put in specific dates for those dates so that it could be enforced [12:42] in situations where we have tonnets that aren't getting proper heat in their property. [12:49] And there was another, we did adopt the existing building code. [12:54] And for folks that's a different, that's an additional building code for [12:59] existing buildings, which makes it a lot, or provides more leniency for [13:04] people that are trying to renovate these older buildings, bring them back to life. [13:08] And the rules are more lenient in that case. [13:11] So we're adopting those. [13:13] And I think I covered everything. [13:16] Okay, and we did bring it for licenses for the home remodelers. [13:22] It was like a different formula that was being used for the home remodelers. [13:28] And we brought that in line with all the other contractors that have to get a license with the city of Toledo. [13:35] And I apologize, I did not introduce our assistant building official Doug Lennon and our commissioner, Kyle Kokenauer. [13:48] I just need a card from the building official, hello. [13:55] I only have one question for you, it sounds like at any time you're cleaning up the code, I think we generally think that's a really good thing. [14:01] I'm curious if there was an opportunity to just engage with various members of the business community and get their feedback on the changes that we're making. [14:10] I mean, I think sometimes we make changes and again we think it's cleaning it up, but inherently that's cleaning up kind of like our [14:18] process, and it doesn't necessarily have to be with the voice of the customer in mind [14:23] and curious if there was opportunities for that, and if you did it and how it went. [14:29] Not to, I mean, a lot of this came as responses from contractors and engineers, [14:37] architects, that had, you know, they were pointing out the fact that our code was [14:46] and they were letting us know that. [14:49] So not to the extent that we were able to have that many meetings outside of the council meetings [14:54] at U Health Councilmen, which were beneficial, but that some of this did. [15:00] We're going to come from those meetings. And it was more informal contact with those, with the contractors and the engineers and the people that are building in Toledo. Yeah. Great. No, it's good to hear. I mean, I think the meetings we hosted, man, I was a year ago, almost, I guess, you know, just the tip of the iceberg. It feels like an iterative process. We're just going to keep going and building. So that's good. I don't see any of the questions. [15:28] I'll now appropriately recommend SCP for item number three, and go on to item number four from Department of Finance. [15:37] Thank you. [15:38] Good afternoon, Chairman Meldin, members of council. [15:41] Agenda item four is the mid-year budget adjustment legislation. [15:46] We typically bring this before council about the same time every year. [15:50] Working with our departments throughout the first two quarters, just to review their revenues and [15:55] expenditures and determine if there are any adjustments that might be needed to the [16:01] budget at this point with the goal of not really adding new programs or positions [16:05] are spending. As you look at the attachment, I'll just briefly highlight some of the [16:10] items on there. The first handful within the general funder, within the judges and clerk [16:16] of courts area, if you were to sum them all together, they net to zero. So they're just [16:25] This does include funding of 200,000 recommended for the Riverside Mobile Home Park demolition. [16:34] It also includes funds in police and fire in their wages and fringes area due to the [16:41] recently approved bargaining agreements that happened in April for police patrol and [16:47] then in July for police command and also firefighters local 92. [16:51] Those are retroactive to April of last year. [16:53] So our planning over the past couple years has included weight rate increases. [16:58] We just need to amend the budget this year to account for the retroactivity to last year. [17:04] And then lastly in the general fund, there's 400,000 for medical supplies within the ALS area in fires budget. [17:12] Outside of the general fund within CIP, we're recommending $100,000 for [17:18] for completing the Penn 7 Park, and I think you'll hear Director Fawznan talk about potential [17:24] new name for that park or preserve, that's 100,000 to complete that. [17:30] In SCM and R Fund, 85,000 is recommended for completing some light repairs on the AN-thony [17:37] Wayne Bridge. [17:38] Rowan Bridge Maintenance has identified some savings in parts and materials that they'll [17:43] be able to reallocate to do those repairs. [17:44] And then in DPU, there's 3.2 million within the water operating fund largely to address [17:51] electricity costs at the ozone plant and some cost increases for chemicals. [17:58] And then in the Toledo Public Power Fund, just proposed increase in revenues and expenditures [18:03] based on the year-to-date trend that they've been seeing. [18:08] We're requesting first reading on this and would be happy to take any questions. [18:13] Thank you councilwoman Williams. Just a question. We're going to have a committee hearing, right? [18:19] Councilman Sarantu, we're having a committee meeting about budget adjustments. [18:24] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [18:26] Councilwoman, yes, we will. Okay. I know we always do that. It will be the end of August. Okay. [18:33] Because I have a question about the demolition of Riverside mobile home park. I know urban view is here, [18:41] But somebody owns that and that's a lot of money that we have to put forward and I'm wondering are we planning on recouping that but I'll hold that till we talk about it in our committee hearing. [18:53] Thanks. [18:56] Thank you. [18:58] Oh, sorry about that Councilman Sarantin. [19:01] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [19:02] I have a request for us reading on this. [19:05] Thank you. [19:08] Okay. [19:10] Councilman Martinez. [19:12] You still on this one? [19:13] It's still on this one. [19:14] Let's go. [19:14] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [19:15] It's just quick, just to my colleague, [19:17] Councilman Sarantou, will there be an opportunity [19:19] for Council to weigh in if we have any council adjustments? [19:24] Absolutely. [19:26] And I should have said that. [19:27] I apologize for my error. [19:29] But yes, everyone will get a memo seeking adjustments [19:34] that you feel should be placed in the mid-year adjustments. [19:37] So, and we'll have a deadline on that, [19:40] But you'll have adequate time in advance to do that, but absolutely welcome your amendments and we'll have a I'm sure a robust committee hearing at the end of the month, I believe it's August 27th, but I got a double check. [19:53] Fantastic, thank you. [19:57] Okay, so we have a recommendation of first read. [20:00] Let's go to five, I think, Department of Parks and Youth Services. Thank you, Joe Fausna, Director of Parks and Youth Services. Item number five is seeking approval to designate a new park property at 3184 North Summit Street as Pontiac Preserve. This is 59 acres located on the Lower Mollamy River. [20:25] Previously, it was used as a confined disposal facility. [20:29] So as we were doing dredging in the river to maintain the shipping channel, [20:34] that Sandin Silt was placed at this property. [20:37] Several years ago, we received a Great Lakes Restoration Initiative grant [20:42] to turn that into a functional wetland. [20:46] That results of that grant were very successful as a beautiful site now. [20:51] So we're looking to get public access to the site for their use. [20:57] and also to educate them about the river, about wetlands, and about how both of those, [21:06] not only are important to the environment but important to our economy. [21:13] So the name Pontiac Preserve comes from the fact that Pontiac Street, [21:20] that ends into summit street right at the entrance to this new park. [21:24] park, so it made sense to adopt that name that helps people find it. [21:33] And then this is really the only park property that we're calling city park property that [21:38] we're calling a preserve. [21:40] And that was purposeful. [21:43] For two reasons. [21:44] One is the alliteration sounds very nice. [21:48] Park Pontiac Preserve just kind of rolls off your tongue. [21:52] But more importantly, we wanted to set an expectation for people who come to this new [21:57] park property. [21:58] This will not be a site where we develop ball fields and tennis courts or splash pads. [22:05] This is really about a really immersive experience into the environment. [22:13] When you're at this site, you don't feel like you're in the city anymore. [22:17] are the sounds kind of fade away. There's nothing but water and trees and wildlife so it's [22:25] just made sense to call to preserve and set that expectation for our visitors. [22:33] Seeking SCP because we are currently finalizing permits and ordering signage for the park so [22:40] we want to make sure that we're ordering the correct name and I'll take any questions. [22:46] Thank you so much, council member Gettis. [22:51] Thank you. [22:52] Is there a goal to get this federally protected eventually? [22:58] Because we're using federal funds to build it, there are covenants that would restrict the development of the site. [23:06] But it's a wetland, so it would be nearly impossible to develop into anything but a park anyway. [23:13] Okay, thank you. [23:14] Thank you, Chair. [23:14] Okay, [23:21] okay, Chair, Councilwoman Williams. [23:25] Ethie P, thanks, Joe. [23:29] Okay, number six through 11, Department of Public Utilities. [23:35] Good afternoon, Doug Stevens, Director for Utilities. [23:38] Item number six will be presented by Commissioner Todd Psalms. [23:43] I'll go ahead and present item number seven and number 11 and Andy McClure [23:50] will commissioner for plant operations will do 8 through 10. [23:57] Good afternoon council. Item number 6 is authorizing the mayor into a contract with M.E. Simpson [24:02] for Hydra-V valve release services and that contract is not to exceed 13,500 from the water [24:09] operating fund. We are requesting SEP and I will take any questions with this one. [24:20] Councilman Martinez? SEP? [24:22] Thank you. [24:23] Item [24:32] number seven is accepting a grant from the Ohio EPA for the H2O, it's an H2O [24:39] Ohio grant for Child Care Led Line Replacement Program. [24:43] There were additional funds left over with the EPA and our ability to spend them. [24:49] Our ability to spend what we have been given previously. [24:52] They came to us and asked us if we were interested and we applied for a grant for 500,000 more. [24:57] This is specifically, um, [25:00] For child led service line replacement, that replacement, childcare led service line replacement, that replacement allows us to replace letter galvanized pipes at child care centers. It does have to stop at the meter for this grant. We confirm that with the Ohio EPA. We're looking for ways to see if there's something we can do to help with fixtures right now. We don't have a solution for that, but this is a really good opportunity to help us clean up daycares and so forth that needs some assistance. [25:29] With that, take any questions, request SEP. [25:35] Thank you, Councilwoman Dr. Brittany Jones. [25:38] Thank you, Chair. [25:40] To date, how many child care centers have been serviced, or is this the beginning of the grant? [25:47] I mean, to date, I don't know how many have had any replacement, do you have any? [25:52] No, this legislation is authorized us to enter the agreement, so there hasn't been anything yet. [25:58] But okay, is there any idea of how many would qualify to be under this program? [26:04] So I don't have the exact number, but we do have several pages of lists. [26:09] So I would say there's going to be over 100 that would qualify. [26:15] So in the grant, whoever we can get in first, we're going to be eligible for those grant dollars. [26:21] So it's kind of first come, first serve, but we're going to do everything we can to stretch [26:25] the dollars as far as we possibly can. [26:28] So there are certain cap of the amount of work you can't invest within these centers? [26:33] No, it's just that the dollar value of what the replacement would be to replace those lines. [26:40] So we would not go into a daycare center and not do all of it that we're eligible to do. [26:46] It'll be all the way from the shut off valve to the meter. [26:49] Okay, so yeah, the reason why I access where there's a specific number of spots that you had within this program or is basically whatever the cost is [26:59] We'll cover that until the fund [27:01] Yeah, whatever whatever the cost is and so we're running maybe seven to eight thousand dollars to do one service line [27:09] So, um, you know, that's gonna you're gonna get us somewhere around 50 maybe people who can can be eligible for us [27:17] we figure we can do 50 and you know if the money goes a little farther we can [27:21] we'll continue until all of it's gone. That's a marketing strategy even talked [27:26] about as far as letting them know. So we have a list we're gonna have to do [27:31] outreach to this list that I brought with me and then you know it'll be a [27:36] probably some form of standard letter and then if we don't get responses we could [27:41] potentially try and do some more personal outreach but hopefully a letter to [27:44] each of the locations will be sufficient to get them to respond and take advantage of this opportunity. [27:51] Okay, so you're sending a letter to that list and okay. [27:54] Yeah, we'll send letters to the list. [27:55] Okay, all right, thank you. [27:59] Thank you, Councilor Martinez. [28:01] Thank you, Mr. Chair, I yield. [28:04] My question was asked, so by Dr. Jones, so I'm good, and I'll recommend SEP. [28:09] Thank you. [28:15] Good afternoon. [28:15] June, item number eight is simply to allow the Division of Water Reclamation to expend funds that have been accepted and placed in accounts for the City of Pluto in regards to insurance element for the flood damage related to frozen pipes, they're very end of 2022. [28:35] For an example, it's the type of thing the money might be spent on. [28:38] The grit, where the grit basement was flooded and a lot of magnetic meters, pressure sensors, valve actuators, [28:50] ross emerged. [28:51] So now we've got something that doesn't have its 20 year life. [28:54] It has a shortened life expectancy, but when that time comes, these funds will be used to replace those meters in similar type problems. [29:03] So, yeah, this is just to allow the division to be able to spend the money to make repairs as needed and appropriate under the insurance claim. [29:12] And we would request SCP, I'll take any questions you might have. [29:19] Councilman Martinez, SCP? [29:26] All right. [29:27] Item number nine is some of you paid dues for our membership with the National Association of Clean Water Agencies. [29:35] This is a professional organization that offers support. [29:39] There's groups we can talk to if we can add an enforcement issue is coming up or what other water reclamation facilities are doing throughout the country. [29:48] There's training opportunities, networking, and it's a $22,900 for membership, this is an increase of $880. [30:00] Over the previous year membership, about a 4% increase. Would request SEP and I'll take any questions, yeah? [30:11] Councilman Martinez, SEP? [30:19] All right. And then the next one is for emergency repairs to transformers in the power and the substation providing power to the low service pumping station. Substation actually gets fed power from two different Edison sections. And one of the two suffered a lightning strike. [30:39] strike, which had us down to only one incoming power line. [30:43] We do have diesel standby generators, but [30:46] those are only intended to be at temporary fix. [30:49] We don't like running those for more than a couple hours at a time. [30:52] So they still leave the pumping station vulnerable. [30:55] We were able to find the parts we needed and get a contractor. [31:01] We basically wave competitive bidding, we were able to go out and get the parts needed and [31:05] contractor to install quickly to get it back in service as soon as possible. [31:10] All the work was done under the $50,000 appropriated in this legislation. [31:15] I would ask SEP, I'll take any questions you have right now. [31:21] I don't see any questions. [31:22] I do want to point out, before I kick it over to my colleague, that next week, [31:27] when we hear the word up pertinences, I hope we all think lovingly of our former clerk and just wishing the best. [31:36] hearing Jerry say a pertinence is just warms my heart. [31:42] Anyone? [31:43] Come on, you remember this? [31:44] We made him say it's 17 times at least. [31:47] This is what I'm talking about, reading. [31:49] And his particular tone, the tones of his voice. [31:52] Councillor Martinez. [31:55] SCP. [32:01] All right, and I'm going to take this one instead of Doug. [32:07] The CIP program at the Water Treatment Plant is winding down. [32:12] This will authorize some additional funding while we wrap up those projects. [32:17] It increases the URSA comms contract by another $479,339. [32:26] And some of the reason that the program extended a little bit, primarily due to COVID. [32:30] There were some other impacts on the construction schedules as well. [32:35] But the last really final project in the program are Alam system improvements which are underway. [32:41] Currently under construction and should be complete by next July, 2026. [32:47] So the funding is reallocated from remaining project balances within the 2013 and 2016 bond improvement fund. [32:55] We would ask SCP and we'll take any questions yet. [32:58] Council [33:04] member Martinez. [33:06] SCP. But before we dismiss the DPU, Director, could you give us an update on collections [33:13] and water turn-offs, please? [33:18] So we sent out a first round of letters starting on the 28th of June. We've sent out 975 [33:28] five letters. The value on those accounts is about 13.4, a little under 13.5 [33:36] million. Of those 975 letters, we have done 31 hanger tags so far with the [33:44] dozen shut-offs. Eight of those people paid and have been reconnected. We have [33:52] collected $771,000 from that. [33:56] So that's averaging about $444. [33:59] Most of the people are entering into payment plans. [34:03] So we announced we were going to turn off in the middle of June, [34:07] and we a few weeks later went out with the letters. [34:09] But since the 16th, we've done 1,735 payment plans. [34:15] We had another commercial business today that came in [34:20] and actually paid off an $84,000 bill. [34:23] I was industrial, I guess I should say. [34:26] So there is a list of industrial and commercial [34:29] that definitely owe some higher balances [34:31] and we've had some good results so far. [34:34] We're going to continue to do hangers [34:37] and a new round of letters will be coming soon. [34:40] You know, again, we're just hoping that people recognize [34:43] that we're serious and they just get on payment plans. [34:47] That's our ultimate goal is to get people [34:49] you know, square with us without having to turn off water. [34:54] Great. Thank you. [34:57] Councilor Mr. Rontan. [34:58] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [34:59] So... [35:00] Director, you said that $771,000 has been collected so far? Yes, great. So that's about five and three-quarter percent of that total value. Great. Thank you very much. Thank you, Ms. Chair. Can I put in a, I'm going to put in a referral to that, that was great information. You'll forgive me for not immediately processing those numbers as you rattled them off. I'm curious if we get like a to date. I think all the council would appreciate this. So I have two referrals. [35:28] One is a to date update basically what you just said kind of and really get those numbers who can get a sense of get arms around it [35:36] And then I don't I mean I feel like an update then after Labor Day, so that would be September 2nd [35:42] See like how did what happened in August or is there a trend we're seeing? I mean I think getting those it was a great question and I think [35:48] Seeing that data would be really helpful. So yeah, we can do that. I am my staff is working to turn you know some of the [35:55] Some of the information is a little harder to pull out of the system. [35:58] Thankfully we have our new billing systems making it a lot easier, but [36:02] we're looking to try and turn this into something I'll have weekly. [36:05] So easily a monthly update to council or [36:08] sometime around September would not be a problem. [36:11] Great. [36:13] Okay. [36:15] Here we go with item 12 through 16 from Department of Police Operations. [36:21] Hello. [36:22] Hello. [36:22] Lieutenant Brian Holmes. [36:24] Item number 12 is authorizing the mayor to enter into a vehicle lease agreement with [36:29] Acme auto leasing, authorizing the annual expenditure of the general fund and amount [36:34] not to exceed $75,180 per year for four years, authorizing the acceptance and deposit of [36:41] funds from the Ohio high intensity drug trafficking area also known as HIDA from the U.S. Department [36:48] of Justice official or office of national drug control policy for reimbursement of the [36:53] general fund expenditures for that agreement. [36:57] There are no matching requirements with this, [37:00] and we are requesting SEP on this. [37:05] Councilman Toronto. [37:07] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [37:08] How many vehicles are we kidding? [37:10] This is for seven vehicles. [37:12] Seven, okay. [37:13] Thank you. [37:19] Chair, Councilman Alves. [37:22] SEP, please. [37:25] Item number 13 is authorizing the mayor [37:27] to enter into another vehicle [37:29] east agreement with Ac Miato. [37:30] So, this is authorizing the annual expenditure of the general fund in a amount not to exceed $96,660 per year for four years, and we are requesting a C.P. [37:47] Councillor Strontan. [37:49] Thank you. Lieutenant, how many vehicles? [37:51] Nine. [37:51] Nine. [37:52] Okay, thank you. [37:53] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [37:57] Councilman Hobbes. [37:58] A C.P. please. [38:02] Item number 14 is authorizing the mayor to enter into a contract for the purchase of body armor. [38:07] Authorizing the expenditure and amount not to exceed $40,000 from the capital improvement fund and amount not to exceed $2,000 from the general fund for the purchase of body armor. [38:18] We put out a bid for body armor on plant bids and vans outdoors was the winning bidder. [38:25] We need this to replace our swap body armor and we are requesting SCP. [38:31] please. Councilman Toronto. Thank you, Mr. Chair. What's the life expectancy [38:38] of body armor? Typically around like you can get three to five years depending on [38:44] how how many how much you sweat so the wear and tear on it is determines how long [38:54] but typically we try to use five years. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Sure [39:00] There could be other factors on what might wear down body armor, too, but I appreciate that. [39:07] Councilman Hobbes, does CP please? [39:12] Item number 15 is authorizing the mayor to enter into a five-year subscription-based information technology agreement with Midwest Public Safety for Cloud Storage for G-Tech bodyworn cameras, authorizing the annual expenditure of an amount not to exceed $325,000 from the Capitol Improvement Fund over the term of the agreement and [39:30] and waving the competitive bidding requirements of TMC Chapter 187. [39:35] Midwest Public Safety is the sole source distributor for G-TAC in our area. [39:41] And the funding for this was included in the five year capital improvement plan. [39:46] And we are requesting SCP, please. [39:50] I have a question, not to like there are too many IT questions at you, but [39:56] this is kind of that overlap for sure. [40:00] So, this is for a five-year subscription, basically, that is storing the footage on the platform. Yes, of our body-worn cameras and our in-car cameras as well. How long do we have to store? I should probably know this. It depends on the situation. Because certain things we don't have to store that long, but certain evidentiary things we have to keep for a very long time. [40:28] So it all ranges from different things [40:32] And so to be clear, this is not for the cameras. This is not for the equipment. It's strictly cloud storage. Yeah, so again [40:39] Some people like colleagues know where I'm going yet again. We're spending capital dollars on something that no one can touch. Yes, which [40:49] I've lost that battle so many times. I'll just keep bringing it up until we start thinking differently about it, but [40:55] But I don't see any other questions, so Councilman Houds. [41:01] Let's see if he believes. [41:04] Number 16 is authorizing the mayor to accept a grant in the amount of $148,654.18 from the [41:13] State of Ohio for police officer training, authorizing the deposit, appropriation, and expenditure [41:18] of said funds, authorizing the mayor to accept bids and award contracts. [41:22] and this is for the quarter two of 2025 funds that we received, and we are requesting SCP, please. [41:36] Councilman Hams, recommendation? [41:38] SCP, please. [41:39] Thank you. [41:40] Thank you. [41:40] Thank you. [41:44] Let's go with item 17 through 22. [41:48] Yes. [41:49] No, no, I'm only to 20. [41:51] Okay. [41:53] I read whatever's on the telephone term. [41:56] But that's good, local 21. [41:58] Allen, go ahead. [41:59] Thanks. [42:01] Christy Sankrant, Commissioner, Engineering Construction Management. [42:05] Item number 17, this ordinance authorizes a joint cooperative agreement with Lucas County to obtain aerial imagery services every year for the next three years. [42:16] We currently partner with Lucas County for the service to be performed once every three years. [42:21] and we have found that by doing this every year is beneficial to our operations. [42:29] This imagery will provide updated aerial photos for the entire city and [42:34] will be used for updating photos for all of our GIS maps and city works, space maps. [42:40] The agreement will cost $9,000 a year for three years for a total of 27,000. [42:46] We had previously received quotes to do this on our own for [42:50] for these services and they came at nearly double the cost of partnering with Lucas County. [42:55] Requesting SCP and we'll take any questions at this time. [43:06] I don't see any chair commizes out vice chair Gattas recommendation SCP please. [43:13] Thanks item number 18 this ordinance authorizes a joint cooperative agreement with Lucas County for [43:21] roadway improvements on 13th straight from Washington to Monroe. [43:26] As part of the construction of the new Lucas County canine care and control building on Monroe the city is reconstructing 13th Street between Washington and Monroe [43:36] We are designing and overseeing the reconstruction Lucas County has agreed to pay for [43:42] Half of the roadway construction cost up to a maximum of two two hundred thousand dollars and [43:49] At this time our estimate is four hundred thousand so it hopefully will end up being fifty percent [43:56] requesting SEP and we'll take any questions at this time. [44:02] Councilwoman Fearson. [44:04] Thank you. [44:05] What is the necessary road construction right there where the new, what's going on there? [44:11] With all the, so they, it's next to where they built the Lucas County canine care and control. [44:18] So trucks using the roads started to, it was in bad shape anyways and we need to replace [44:25] a water line in there. [44:26] So, they agreed since they had used that road to do part of their construction, they'd be willing to pay for half of the cost of us going ahead and reconstructing that street and sidewalks, curves, everything. [44:37] Sidewalks include. [44:39] Okay, thank you. [44:40] You're welcome. [44:45] Vice Chair again? [44:47] S.C.P., please. [44:50] Item number 19. [44:52] This resolution of intent is required by the Ohio Public Works Commission to stay- [45:00] I state that the city of Toledo will reimburse our capital improvement fund with the money re-receive from them for our projects. So the projects that we are receiving OPWC money is Executive Parkway from Sea Court of Central and Sylvania from Douglas to Upton, which will be constructed in next year, 2026. [45:26] So it's just promising that we will put their money back in our CIP when they give it to us. [45:30] Yeah, these are both construction next year, you son? [45:33] Yes. [45:34] Can you just for the benefit of all of us give us a high level overview of these two very, [45:38] very exciting projects? [45:41] Of course. [45:43] So, executive parkway from Central to Seacore, which is there are some businesses on their [45:51] park. [45:51] There is also some residential apartments, I was trying to get the right word. [45:58] and some new restaurants that may be going on the one side also. [46:03] So anyways, it's a street that a lot of people use to cut through, [46:06] to not have to go through Seacore and Central. [46:11] So we will be redoing that road. [46:15] It is actually approximately $2 million to do that one. [46:21] And then the other one is Sylvania from Douglas to Upton. [46:26] and that we actually have already gotten some [46:29] team of Cog money, owed out money for that, [46:31] and that estimate is $2 million. [46:35] Yeah, thanks for that. [46:36] If I could comment on this quickly [46:37] before I ask for a recommendation, [46:40] when if you could a chance to really dive in [46:42] to getting a sense of what these projects are, [46:44] I think these are a great example. [46:45] Actually, there's some vision zero values being implemented. [46:48] I know executive parkways, [46:49] I think that's gonna be a super exciting project, [46:52] and I just wanna give Stephanie Bartlett [46:54] a lot of credit for the work that she did on that, and even going back to the drawing [46:58] border and executive parkway, I think that could be a really cool project. And timely, [47:04] too. I don't know why anyone would want to avoid sea corn scent, though. I don't know [47:08] what the problem is. It's fine. Okay. Vice Chair Gannis. [47:13] SCP, please. [47:17] Item number 20. This resolution gives the city the authority to apply for [47:21] for OPWC funding for our Summit Street Telegraph, [47:26] Lundale, Douglas, and Emerald Projects, [47:30] which I do have listed on that ordinance. [47:33] Some of these have been previously awarded outside funding [47:37] by either TMACOG or ODOT, so of course applying [47:41] for OPWC for this for the reduces the amount of CIP [47:45] that we need to use to do these projects. [47:47] These will commence between 2026 and 2027 requesting SAP and we'll take any questions. [48:01] Vice Chair gas. [48:03] SAP, thank you. [48:11] We're on 21 now. [48:13] Item number 21, great. [48:16] This is an ordinance that would allow us to accept and expend $100,000 from an EPA grant. [48:24] The EPA grant is for the community and litter grant agreement that we can do with the EPA. [48:33] They support our efforts with urban beautification to do the 2025 Tuito Clean Recycle events. [48:40] There are ten events this year and we can use this money to reimburse us for our costs [48:48] on those items that we collect. [48:51] And with this, we also have a $25,000 expenditure from the storm water fund to match this grant. [48:58] With that, I could take any questions and request SCP. [49:12] Vice Chair Gattas, recommendation? [49:14] SCP. [49:15] Thank you. [49:19] Now, to item 22, [49:25] from ICT, welcome. [49:28] We tried to give that one away, so sorry about that. [49:32] Good to have you here. [49:32] Good [49:39] afternoon members of council, I'm Steve Ivinsky, IT project manager, joined today by Ann Bennett, Director of IT. [49:45] This ordinance authorizes the mayor to subscribe to and implement a backup solution to support our engaged Toledo and DPU customer service call center. [49:55] It's a cloud-based telephony solution that will serve as a backup to our on-premise. [50:00] And we'll be activated if that primary solution were to fail for any reason. As we've shared in the past, we are actively working on an enterprise network optimization and modernization project. This call center solution we're discussing today will be a part of that overall project and be included in the eventual RFP and implementation for the same. This particular ordinance, however, provides a backup for the call center component should the primary system fail prior to that implementation of the new system. [50:29] system which is expected to take approximately 18 to 24 months. [50:34] The need for this backup has become urgent as the vendor no longer supports the current system and [50:39] the system has started to experience failures. [50:43] The system will be configured in such a way that will allow us to move it to a full time production. [50:48] Should we find it adequately meets the full requirements and effectively integrates with the future enterprise wide solution. [50:54] It is subscription-based and we will structure the agreement to terminate after one year with the ability to renew for two years should we find it an adequate permanent solution. [51:05] The total amount of this ordinance is $48,700 and the cost breaks down as follows. [51:12] There's a $13,000 annual subscription cost for the Cisco software with the ability to renew for two additional years for a total of $39,000. [51:23] A one-time implementation cost with Sentinel for $6,000 and a one-time $3700 staff augmentation [51:35] cost with Glass City IT. [51:37] We are asking to wave competitive bidding so that we can stay within our current Cisco [51:41] telephony standard as well as leverage authorized Cisco agent Sentinel in our current staff augmentation [51:47] partner Glass City IT, both of which already have knowledge of our existing environment. [51:52] We are respectfully requesting SCP and are open to any questions. [51:57] Thank you. [51:59] Councilwoman Williams. [52:00] Thank you. [52:01] Just some questions. [52:03] Is this a companion project to my phone call dilemma? [52:10] So if you remember that I had asked for, I was calling about a water situation and I asked [52:20] or a phone call back. [52:22] And I didn't get it, is this to help with that [52:24] because we passed an ordinance for that, right? [52:28] And is this to help with that? [52:30] Is that what I'm getting? [52:32] It is all related. [52:33] Thank you for the question and the opportunity to explain. [52:38] The ordinance that was passed was for assistance [52:41] in developing the RFP and reviewing the responses [52:45] for the enterprise solution. [52:46] This is, I'll call an interim solution for our most critical component of that aging [52:55] system. [52:56] So in theory, we could use this as our production system, and if doing that, we would see improvements. [53:04] But some of the failures that we're starting to see are things like call back, reporting, [53:10] other things that are very important to the call center. [53:13] are failing with our, and we don't have the ability to get the software to support to [53:18] fix those things, and we don't want to wait that 18 to 24 months to have a production [53:23] ready system. So, indeed, it will eventually address that need with the enterprise system [53:30] if we find that we are continually seeing failures. We'll use that as our production system. [53:36] Okay. Thank you. Thank you. [53:41] Great. Before I ask for recommendation from Councillor [53:44] So if you're going to put in a referral here, unrelated to this, I see it's ICT fund, [53:48] but as you know, I have this CIP software fascination. [53:55] So it's related to that. [53:56] Can I get a five-year breakdown of capital dollars spent on software? [54:01] So the year's 2021, 22, 23, 24, and then also, so ideally, year over year, but [54:09] but then also of those which were one time, expenses and which are ongoing. [54:18] Okay, no super big rush on that either, but I just wanted to put that in, and I want to call on Councilor McPherson. [54:28] Thank you, SCP. [54:35] We have eight items from Zoning and Planning Committee. [54:38] We have a zone change at 42, 56C core road, zone change at 539 Broadway Street, special use permit for solar array at 1550 Miami Street, amendment to an institutional campus master plan, at 5601 Clegg Drive, special use permit for a type A family daycare. [55:00] Facility at 2225 Dorstreet, zone change at 1513 and 1517, South Reynolds Road. We have the vacation of Whitmer Drive because there was payment made, and then we have a resolution starting the process for the vacation of 45 feet of a 14 foot wide alley adjacent to 16 Clyde Street. [55:25] We [55:29] have two resolutions in attendance. [55:32] We have 287.25, recognizing Bruce Momhower on his retirement. [55:38] And we have recognizing Mike Furner for the Civic Courage Award from Councilman Comives and Councilmember Gattis. [55:45] Under second read items, 300-25, [55:50] 5 Leving Assessments 2024 Assess Services Program for Street Services, 301-25 Leving Assessments 2024 Assess Services Program for Downtown Street Lighting, 302-25 Leving Assessments for 2024 Assess Services Program for Citywide Street Lighting, 303-25 Leving Assessments for 2024 Assess Services Program, Trees. [56:16] 305-25 is showing notes for city services, 306-25 is showing notes for the sidewalk program, 307-25 is showing bonds for the Hoffman World Blanfill, 308-25 is showing bonds for vehicles and equipment for the Department of Transportation, 309-25 is showing bonds for vehicles and equipment for division of fleet and facility, solid waste and urban beautification. [56:43] 310-25 issuing bonds for fire apparatus, 311-25 issuing bonds for street and birds construction, 312-25 issue refunding bonds, from 2015 bonds, 313 is also issuing refunding bonds from 2012 bonds, [57:04] 339-25, expenditure for street skate beautification for the purchase of flower pot containers in the right away. [57:12] 340-25, agreements with W. Natural Renewables for Renewable Natural Gas Project for Hoffman Road Landfill Gas and Bayview Waste Water Treatment Plant. [57:23] 342-25, amending Toledo Municipal Code. [57:26] Councillor Warren Williams. [57:30] I actually wanted to comment on 342-25 after Julie got on the reading. [57:37] You were done reading? [57:39] I'm mending to lead them in a spoke code 743-1103-1104-1107 and 1116 regarding downtown parking lot review and improvements. [57:50] Advisory committee. [57:51] So I do know we've been talking about this for a while, and it is secondary. [57:59] I'm just still concerned that once we pass this, we'll have a situation where some businesses won't be able to abide by it because of the funding source. [58:12] So I'm a little concerned about it, I just want to put that on the table, I don't want to put any businesses out of it because of the funding. [58:22] that's required to meet some of the things, so hopefully we can kind of see what we can do to help those individuals, because I know the Port Authority says that they don't know where that money went, so thank you, that's all. Thank you, Chair. [58:40] Okay. Thank you. Councilman Driscoll. [58:43] Thank you, Chair. I'm going to ask that we put a hold on this until the next meeting we voted on at September 9th. [58:52] I plan to have an amendment to this and I thought we'd have it done by now, but we don't quite have it done, but I do not believe we should, if pay for lots have to comply by this, then I think that individual lots that are respected to the owners also have to comply by this, and that's eventually what the amendments will say. [59:13] Okay, and so we don't have that done quite yet. [59:16] We're still working with plan commission, but hoping to have that finished in time to vote by September 9th. [59:27] Okay. [59:29] 344-25 amending Toledo Municipal Code Chapter 11 changing commissioner building inspections to planning director. [59:37] Then we have the new items from City Council. [59:40] Number one from Councilman Melden with co-sponsors Councilwoman Williams and [59:45] Councilmember John Hobbs, the following two, urging the Ohio Board of Pharmacy to classify [59:51] by creatum, mitrogena spiciosa as a schedule one controlled substance, and two enacting [59:58] lead omit them so bulk up. [1:00:00] Code chapter 513, subsection, 513.17, to prohibit the sale of freedom. I was about to try to show my light on. There's no light if you're in this chair. I didn't realize that. Just a couple comments on this. First of all, I believe, and Councilman Hobbes correct me from wrong with this will be a part of a public safety hearing in August. August 20th, so that's great. The intent here is to go first read with this and have plenty of conversation. [1:00:28] The committee hearing is wonderful to do as well. [1:00:31] I just want to give a little origin story of how this even came on my radar. [1:00:34] Earlier this year, longer ago than I wish it would have taken. [1:00:38] But earlier this year, I had a member, someone in my district. [1:00:42] I don't want to give away any personal details. [1:00:44] But I'm talking about a loved one who had struggled with substance abuse in the past [1:00:51] and had become really addicted to this, this freedom substance. I had never heard the word before [1:01:00] and just did a little bit of digging and found that it's very interesting. A lot of different [1:01:04] states have had different approaches to this. There's a vape shop in my district that on the window, [1:01:09] it has the word really big and right there. And so my personal belief in philosophy is, [1:01:19] It's almost like, see something, say something, the first second I hear it, I think you [1:01:22] err on the side of caution and create a safer community. [1:01:24] So we'll have a conversation about what it looks like. [1:01:27] I think that, you know, the idea that someone can walk into a storefront vape shop and access [1:01:31] something that could get them addicted to something that fires off your opioid receptors is [1:01:38] a problem. [1:01:39] I think it's a problem. [1:01:40] So you can do your own research into the substance. [1:01:42] I want to talk about the two pieces and how they work together. [1:01:44] One, the TMC piece is actually prohibiting the sale, not possession. [1:01:50] We're not necessarily doing all the possessions that we're prohibiting the sale, just trying [1:01:53] to cut it off at the point of purchase. [1:01:56] But what I am excited about is the resolution asking the board of control to classify it as [1:02:03] schedule one means then we wouldn't have to outlaw the sale, because it would be outlawed [1:02:07] at a higher level. [1:02:08] So that's the dance between those two things. [1:02:11] I'm happy to have, you know, have any questions I want to thank my colleagues for pretty quickly when I talk to them, for agreeing to co-sponsor, and I look forward to the public conversation. [1:02:23] I know at our committee hearing team recovery will be present. I reached out to them pretty quickly, and they knew what it was. [1:02:33] They knew more than I did, and they knew about the impacts they've been seeing in the community. [1:02:36] So that's my brief background, Councilwoman Williams. [1:02:42] Just real quick, I just want to thank you for bringing this word and asking me to co-sponsor. [1:02:46] Just from the moment you said it and I started researching it, you just started seeing so many articles about it. [1:02:54] Even at the federal level they're looking into banning this. [1:02:57] So I'm just glad that we're getting ahead of it. [1:03:04] So to speak a little bit, because I think that this could blow up into something major and I'm glad we're getting ahead of it. [1:03:13] Also, too, meth is made his way back as well, so I've noticed that, and some of my articles, these are going in tandem for some reason. [1:03:23] So I am definitely glad that we're getting ahead of this, thank you. [1:03:29] Yeah, thank you for that. [1:03:30] Yeah, recent news story, I'll circulate at the federal level. [1:03:33] They're really looking at this too. [1:03:35] Sorry, Councilman Hobbes. [1:03:38] Thank you, Chair. [1:03:39] I want to also say that our governor, Governor DeWine, has banned this potent synthetic opioid to combat the rising threat here in Ohio. [1:03:53] and I happened on June 5th, 2024, Governor Mike DeWise signed an executive order [1:04:00] vanting to sell in use of synthetic opioids and so this was a part of that. [1:04:07] So our governor's also seeing how this is affecting our state and so thank [1:04:14] you chair. Thank you yeah that was first reading. The following three you go in [1:04:20] The first one, and these are under President Hartman, approving the assessment equalization board report as presented for DTID. [1:04:30] Number two, determining to proceed with the downtown Toledo Improvement District proposal. [1:04:36] And number three, levying special assessments for public services in the revised downtown Toledo Improvement District proposal. [1:04:43] 5,860,846. [1:04:47] Okay, [1:04:54] we have members of DTID here, if anyone has any questions. [1:05:02] If not, I don't know, I mean, [1:05:09] I am no prisoner to formalities, so if you're interested in speaking, I'm happy to welcome you. Okay. Thank you very much. Good afternoon, Christine Michaels, the President's CEO of Connected Widow. And I'm Matt Ruben with Crane Development, and I'm the chairman of the Downtown Splitow Improvement District. So this is our third authorization for this said. And we do support the Board of Equalizations. [1:05:37] recommendations, and we would also ask for SEP on this to meet a statutory deadline for [1:05:44] the second Monday of September. [1:05:50] Great. [1:05:51] So this would be Council President Hartman, so I'll recommend SEP. [1:05:57] Thank you. [1:05:58] I don't see any questions. [1:05:58] Thanks for being here. [1:05:59] Thank you. [1:06:02] Next we have Petition and Levy Assessments for Energy Improvements for AWLCO Ventures LLC [1:06:08] at 1015 North Summit Street. [1:06:09] This is also under President Hartman for the Port Authority, $92,740 and $20 cents. [1:06:18] Then we have a petition in Levy Assessments for Energy Improvements for a WLCO Lower Town LLC at 1017 North Summit, $107,025 and $30, also under President Hartman for the Port Authority. [1:06:32] And then we have two ordinances for the next one. [1:06:39] You should hit the button so soon. [1:06:41] Okay, after this one, we'll go to Councilwoman Williams. [1:06:44] Sponsored by Councilwoman Williams with a co-sponsor as Councilman Hobbs, [1:06:49] forgiving the loans for United North School's home LLC and the second one for giving the loans for United North School's home to LLC. [1:06:59] All right, Councilwoman Williams. [1:07:00] Thank you so much, Chair, so these loans are actually with [1:07:08] neighborhoods, if you were at a housing meeting with a couple [1:07:14] weeks ago, I kind of explained what year 16 homes was and how [1:07:19] neighborhoods got involved. [1:07:21] So we had a lot of tax credit homes built in the city, [1:07:30] and [1:07:30] And the CDC's went away, but we still had the homes. [1:07:34] And the city, with its partners, according to some previous legislation, [1:07:40] recruited LMH and [1:07:43] NeighborWorks to kind of maintain these homes. [1:07:47] And in the meanwhile, [1:07:49] NeighborWorks also took the loans that were given to the homes. [1:07:55] They took on loans that were given to the homes and they have approached all of it. [1:08:03] NeighborWorks has approached everyone to ask for these loans to be forgiven and the administration has done this in the past. [1:08:11] I will say the administration is objecting for these loans to be forgiven. [1:08:15] It's two sets of homes is United North School Homes 1 and 2. [1:08:20] It's a total of 46 homes. [1:08:24] The administration is under the guys that they are not forgiving loans. [1:08:29] Home loans because the Trump administration may not be putting it in the budget. [1:08:35] And they also forgot that they did it before. [1:08:38] So I have legislation in front of me for [1:08:41] Oakwood homes, three and four where they had forgiven the loans for those homes. [1:08:49] When neighborhoods were recruited to take this, they almost were promised that these loans would be forgiven after a while if they took on these homes. [1:08:58] And they did take on these homes, and they have maintained these homes. [1:09:01] The administration is under the guys that if they sell the homes, they would get 100,000 for the homes, and they would be able to pay it off. [1:09:11] Well, they're at a deficit now with the homes according to [1:09:15] NeighborWorks Audits, they had done, and anything that NeighborWorks does, [1:09:20] they are going to put the money back into the community that we serve. [1:09:24] I'm only asking for the homes in my district because I know the back story, [1:09:30] I do believe that a lot of people have forgotten the back story, [1:09:33] but I actually lived in these homes and I know the predatory nature that these homes [1:09:38] were on the residence here, so this is promoting home ownership on another level. [1:09:45] They have plenty other loans out there on these homes, but we can forgive these home loans, [1:09:50] and I hope that this council will support that. [1:09:52] Thank you. [1:09:57] Thank you. [1:09:58] Councilmember Gattas. [1:10:00] Thanks. Um, I would like to ask if we could have a committee hearing on this on these and on south one and two. Um, I think it would be a great. Uh, it's a larger conversation that I'd like to have and invite everyone from council to sit at the table and hear about that. So I'm just requesting that we have a committee hearing on this. [1:10:30] Councilman Martinez. Thank you, Mr. I am. [1:10:34] I'm supportive of Councilman Williams' amendment, but I would like to amend it to include South Fleet O'Homes 1 and 2, and I have no issues with having a hearing on this, and then I think it's appropriate. [1:10:49] We've done it with St. Clair Village back in the day, we did it on the Marina district, I mean, there's a long history of forgiving these, and especially since we're not funding [1:11:05] So I have no issues with this or having a hearing on it, I'm supportive either way, but [1:11:11] I'm definitely supportive of forgiving these loans and possibly even NSP at a later [1:11:16] day. [1:11:16] Thank you. [1:11:17] Thank you. [1:11:18] Councilwoman Williams? [1:11:19] Yeah, I'm good with, I'm good with having a committee hearing on it because I definitely [1:11:24] would like, because I mean, I don't know how the administration forgot that they forgave. [1:11:30] Longs under this administration, so I would love to discuss this and also to discuss other projects that are not online that we have given money for. [1:11:43] So I am definitely interested in having a committee hearing on this but I do encourage my colleagues to come and if you have any questions about the year 16 project, you can google it. [1:11:56] Neighborworks was a willing partner because they were asked by the City and its partners, which is in the legislation for forgiving these loans. [1:12:06] They were actually sought out, so I am excited about this to have a committee hearing you'll be great. [1:12:12] Thank you so much, Chair. [1:12:13] Thank you, Councilman Driscoll. [1:12:15] Thank you, Chair. [1:12:16] I'm also supportive of having a hearing on this. [1:12:18] I think it would be good for your neighborhoods to be able to present the case here in a public setting. [1:12:24] I know a lot of us have conversations with them. [1:12:28] We have an upcoming housing committee meeting on the 28th, and if that's appropriate to discuss, then it's an analysis from a point on. [1:12:37] It's my understanding that they're in good standing on all these loans as well, so that they've been making payments all along, which has been the, usually the basis for why we forgive them in the first place, so thank you. [1:12:51] Thank you. [1:12:51] Would you like these first reading then? [1:12:59] Okay. [1:12:59] First reading. [1:13:00] I mean, next week, if you wanted to put it in committee, you could do that too, but I just, [1:13:03] okay. [1:13:03] Just wanted them to check. [1:13:04] Yeah. [1:13:04] I mean, it's interesting. [1:13:06] Right. [1:13:06] We had the conversation about recovering, you know, you think about water rates and getting [1:13:12] going back and collections and it feels like a different version of that. [1:13:16] So great. [1:13:18] Good conversation. [1:13:19] I don't see any of the lights on with, oh, you got me. [1:13:23] Councilman Sarantu. [1:13:26] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [1:13:27] I'll be quick. [1:13:29] Two things. [1:13:30] One, we will be having our regular monthly finance meeting tomorrow. [1:13:35] And first on the agenda will be the executive director of Tima Cog and Sandy Spang, who's former [1:13:41] member of Council. [1:13:42] She will be doing a brief presentation on the economic impact of the New Gordie Hal Bridge, [1:13:49] which hopefully will be opening sometime in the next few months. [1:13:54] The reason for that is I think it's very important that Council be briefed on this enormous project. [1:14:02] I had the pleasure of attending the Ohio Freight Conference last week for two and a half days, [1:14:08] and we actually went up to Detroit to view the construction project of the Gordy Health Bridge [1:14:14] and to look at how important that will be for foreign trade with Canada, [1:14:20] one of our largest trading partners. [1:14:23] So I've asked Sandy to do a summary of that. [1:14:26] And then also we'll have our June financial report as well as the City Auditor will present his report. [1:14:34] On August 27th, Wednesday, August 27th, four o'clock will be the next finance meeting. [1:14:39] and then I would anticipate any amendments, suggestions for the mid-year budget adjustments [1:14:48] to be presented by members at that meeting so that we can vote on this at our full council [1:14:54] meeting in September. [1:14:57] With that, thank you very much, Mr. Chair. [1:15:02] Saying nothing further, this meeting is adjourned.