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We're now reconvening from the Torrance City Council meeting of March 14th, as we have been in a joint meeting with the Torrance Youth Council. We extend our thanks for the invitation to meet collectively with them tonight. As Mayor Pro Tem, it is my honor to hear from our student representatives about all the great initiatives they are working on at each of our Torrance schools to provide a much needed voice for our youth. I'd like to welcome everyone joining us.

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us in the city chambers along with everyone watching remotely.

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We continue to encourage the public to say specifically involved by participating in

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the bi-monthly meetings.

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We ask that you treat one another with respect, despite having a difference in opinion.

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This is why we truly practice the principles of democracy.

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This week also kicks off our Social Services Commission Toiletree Drive, which runs from

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March 17 through March 31.

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First, this year's drive will benefit nonprofit agencies such as Family Promise, 1736 Crisis Center, and Harvard in Interfaith Services.

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Donation Benz will be located in the City Hall lobby, City Hall West Annex, Katie Geyser Civic Center Library, and the East Annex Permit Center.

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The items needed include new and unopened full-size shampoo, conditioner, body wash, and bar soap, toothbrushes, toothpaste, deodorant, body wipes, bath towels, and shaving lotion and razors.

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As we move into the regular business of the agenda, it is important to us that we have an opportunity to voice your comments.

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Public emails have a deadline of 5.30 p.m. on Monday before the council meeting if you wish to comment.

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Thank you for those of you who met today's deadline.

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They have been forwarded to Council as supplemental material and will be entered into public record.

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Any emails submitted after the deadline prior to a German will still be added to the public

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record.

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For all of you on attendance this evening in just a few minutes we will accept oral communications

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or public comments on items not on agenda or consent items.

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Speaker cards are accepted before the start of the meeting and they're entered into the speaker list.

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Those submitted after the meeting starts are not.

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You will still be able to speak once the list has been exhausted.

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You will have up to one minute per speaker for a period of up to 15 minutes.

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The public may comment on his administrative matters as they are considered allowing up to one minute per speaker.

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comments on public hearing, allow up to two minutes per speaker.

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The speaker clock starts as soon as you step up to the microphone.

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Time limits will be strictly enforced to ensure equal opportunity.

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We request, please, that speakers keep their remarks brief and limited to the topic of discussion.

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At the end of the meeting, we will have up to another 15 minutes for oral communication

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number two which will also allow up to one minute per speaker. Remember you can only participate

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under oral communications once during this meeting. We will now be moving on to item two.

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The flag salute and invocation. Is there anyone here in the audience who has a military

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veteran or currently in the military serving? Please stand or raise your hand so that we may recognize

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you.

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Thank you for your service and now we'll have a flag salute by council member Griffith

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and an invocation by Council Member Kaji.

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Please join me as we honor our flag in our country.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands.

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Dear Lord, thank you for bringing us together tonight as residents of the city of Torrance.

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We want to thank you for the efforts of our employees who are the ones who provide services that keep our city running.

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Thank you also for the time and effort of our elected officials who spend a lot of time pondering over all the issues that come before our city council and especially for our residents and our business people here.

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Thank you for providing them with their thoughts, their support, and also giving them a chance to speak up and provide guidance as we attempt to guide the city in the right course.

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Thank you very much.

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your name we pray amen.

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Thank you very much Councilmembers Griffiths and Councilmember

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Codgy. We're now moving on to item three. Can I please get a report from the city clerk on the

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posting of the agenda? Yes, Your Honor. This agenda was posted on Friday, March 3rd.

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Thank you.

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May I have a motion please to accept?

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Is this to wait for the readings? I moved away for the readings.

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Thank

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you.

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We're now moving on to item 4, announcement of withdrawal, deferred, and or supplemental

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items.

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Thank you.

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I'm Troyan.

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City Manager.

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We have supplemented materials for item 7 or communications, AD from City Treasurer

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except their final investment report for the month of December 2022, 8K from City Manager

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and Human Resources to approve the proposed job description for Deputy City Manager.

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Item 9B from City Manager and City Clerk, consider extending vote by mail drop box agreement

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with the Los Angeles County Register of Recorder County Clerk.

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9E from Community Development, consider draft guidelines for an outdoor dining program.

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Within a public right of a way, downtown Torrance, an adopt resolution approving outdoor dining

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program guidelines.

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9EI from City Manager, approved side letter agreements to extend and expand.

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the Torrance Police Department of Natural and Retention and Centips, and lastly on 10-8 from Community Development.

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Consider a appeal of planning commission adoption of sustainable community's environmental assessment and approval of the conditions permit and development permit.

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Thank you.

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We will be adjourning tonight's meeting in honor of Paul Cohen, Council member Griffiths.

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Thank you.

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Pass it we adjourned tonight's meeting in memory of Paul Cohen who passed away on February 24th, 2023 just a month shy of his 80th birthday.

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Paul was a former City Commissioner, lifelong volunteer and a beloved member of the Torrance community.

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Paul was born on March 29th, 1943 in Newark, New Jersey.

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After graduating from high school, he attended Rutgers University of New Jersey and then served in the National Guard.

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While Paul started his professional career as a teacher, he later became involved in

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real estate with New York Life, which would eventually bring him to California where

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he lived most of his life.

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After leaving New York Life, Paul established his own commercial real estate firm.

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He also served as a Rutgers University Ambassador for California, helping to recruit students

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to attend his alma mater.

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Paul was an active member of the Torrance community.

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Over a span of nearly two decades, he and his wife Kathy served on several Torrance commissions,

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including the Parks and Recreation Committee, Human Resources Commission and the Commission on

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Aging. He was dedicated to public service and the commitment to make a difference in people's

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lives. Paul loved the city and participated in programs like partners in policing through the

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Torrance Police Department. He was also a facilitator for people first, a self-advocacy organization

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and international, national, and statewide movement of people with developmental disabilities.

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He loved the arts and supported events at the Torrance Art Museum, Torrance Theatre Company,

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and the James Armstrong Theatre.

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He and his wife were also ambassadors for the Torrance Memorial Medical Center.

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Known as the Commish, Paul was smart, funny, kind, and caring.

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He enjoyed traveling with his wife to many fascinating places, spending time with family,

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talking politics, and sharing laughter with friends at monthly poker games.

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Paul has survived by his beloved wife, Kathy Lindberg, brother Arnold Cohen, daughter

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Jennifer Fury, steps on Mark Lindberg, three grandchildren, Ryan Brandon and Zachary

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Fury and many other relatives and friends, our deepest sympathies go out to the Cohen family

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and friends.

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Thank you.

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Council member, shake.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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I like to take this opportunity to update my colleagues and the community on ways and

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means we can help raise awareness of the devastating events that occurred across

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the globe last month.

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As you recall, several large-scale earthquake struck southern and central region of Turkey

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and the northern and western region of Syria.

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These earthquakes were so strong, they were felt in neighboring countries of Egypt, Israel.

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Palestine, Lebanon, and Cyprus. While the city of Torrance may be nearly 7,000 miles away, there

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are members of our community right here who have family members relative and friends impacted

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by this devastating earthquake. I want you to know our thoughts and prayers are with you.

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On an international level, the American Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement have deployed

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more than 9,000 volunteers and staff to provide life saving care.

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Staff also research several other charitable non-profit organizations online that are

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also supporting these communities overseas.

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Be sure to check out charitynavigator.org, based on the East Coast, they help connect people

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to the best charities that align with their passions and values.

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There's also a Zakat Foundation of America who will use your donations to support live

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saving aid to earthquake survivors from medical supplies and hygiene cats to food and

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shelter for families in need.

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These are just a few of the resources out there and available if you chose to support this

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cause.

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I encourage each of you to continue to reach out to your friends, family and organizations

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that you are actively involved with to see if they are taking donations to any kind

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and please share that with our staff in the city. Together I know we can accomplish great things.

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At this point I'd like to get a conference from my colleagues to allow staff

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to add some of these fundraising efforts on our city's website. Do I get a conference?

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Councilmember Griffiths?

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Thank you.

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Who wants to earn 4,800,000 yen?

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Then if you're interested, I've got a job for you.

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The Torrents Sister City, Joshua, Japan and our Sister City Program are looking to hire

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a English teacher to work in Joshua, Japan, or Sister City for a period of minimum of

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one year contract beginning August 1, 2023 to July 31, 2024.

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The person that would be interested in applying must live and work in Torrance, be fluent

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in written and spoken English, hold a bachelor's degree, plus a teaching credential or have demonstrated

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teaching experience, possess a keen interest in the Japanese language and culture, and represent

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the Torrance Sister City Association and foster the goals and objectives of the English Teacher Exchange Program.

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If this sounds like something of interest to you and you meet those qualifications, please go to

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the Sister City website at www.TorranceSisterCity.org for more information and to apply. Thank you very much.

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Thank you, Council Member Griffiths. This Friday marks the kickoff of Governor Gavin Newsom's

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Clean California Community Days campaign.

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Clean California is a statewide initiative to remove litter, create jobs, clean highways,

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parks, and beautify open spaces.

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From March 17th through the 27th, communities across the state are invited to organize their

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own cleanup events and help spread the word about taking pride in keeping our state and our

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local communities clean.

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This year, the City of Torrance designated McMaster Park in District 1, Victor Park in District 2, and Columbia Park in District 3, to host a cleanup event on Saturday, March 18th from 9 a.m. until 12 p.m.

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Residents are invited to join our Council members to those Districts Council members, Koji, Lewis, and Shake.

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You may even want to see which District collected the most amounts of trash.

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Oh, they're challenging each other already, or maybe the least amount of trash, as the

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real winner make it a fun contest.

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While Torrens promotes zero waste and encourages all participants to bring their own trash

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bags, gloves, and water bottles, supplies will be provided for those who are not able to

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bring their own.

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There will be a scale to see how much trash was collected at the end of the day at each park.

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Residents are encouraged to spread the word and bring a family member, friend, neighbor, or colleague

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and help us keep our city clean.

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To see all of the designated locations through the state, you can go to www.cleanCalifornia.dot.

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DOT.ca.gov. Thank you.

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And now I'd like to ask our city clerk, Ms. Poyer, with an update on our

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SST application. Thank you, Your Honor. The application period for the SSC Citizen Oversight Committee

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is this Friday, March 17th by 4 p.m. Postmarks are not accepted. Applications must be submitted to the

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city clerk's office and applicants must have completed commission certification training.

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seated commissioners are eligible to apply. To request online commission certification

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training, please email city clerk all one word at torrentca.gov. Thank you, Your Honor.

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Thank you, and at this time, it's my honor to invite Commissioner Whit to the podium to

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speak about the Social Service Commission.

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Good evening, Mayor, members of the council.

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I'm the violet Whit and I'm a member of the Social Services Commission. I thank you, Mayor,

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for addressing announcing initially our drive.

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Now, I'm here to officially announce

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that we do have our yearly toiletry drive,

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starting March 17 through March 31,

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and the drive benefits organizations

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that serve people experiencing homelessness.

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The nationwide boxes will be placed

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in the Torren City Hall lobby

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and the Community Development Permit Center

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and the KDGuys at Library.

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Subsequently, the commission has decided

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to host a drive through Toulichy Redrive that will take place on Saturday, March 25th from 9am

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until noon. Collection of donated items will be accepted in the front of the West Annex building

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located at 3031 Torrance Boulevard, Torrance 90503. And anyone who has any questions would like to

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commission at torrentiea.gov. Thank you.

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Thank you commissioner Witt.

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For the next few items, I will come down to the podium.

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So item 6A is a proclamation honoring Centenarian of Torrents, Mary and the Campazzi.

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Councilmember Matucci.

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Thank you.

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Whereas the longevity of life is a blessing for an individual and for a community that

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benefits from the knowledge, creativity, and experiences this individual brings to all.

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And whereas, Torrance resident, Mrs. Mary Edna Kompatze, I hope I said it right, has earned

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the respect and admiration from the city of Torrance and is honored as a youthful centenarian

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in our senior community.

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and whereas Mary Edna was born in Buffalo, Kentucky on September 15, 1920. She was one of three siblings

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growing up during the Great Depression, which taught her not to be wasteful and to share with others.

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And whereas Mary attended presentation academy and nursing school in Louisville, Kentucky,

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before joining the U.S. Army Nurses Corp in 1944. Mary was a second lieutenant

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and a night shift nurse caring for wounded and paralyzed soldiers during World War II

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at a U.S. Army base hospital in San Juan, Puerto Rico. And whereas in 1947, Mary,

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Mary Lieutenant Joseph Compatzi, and eventually moved to Los Angeles, California, where she

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attended UCLA.

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We won't hold it against her.

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In 1951, they bought a home in Torrance, where she and her husband raised seven children.

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Mary worked at the Torrance Unified School District for ten years as a school aide, volunteered

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at Nativity Catholic School and has resided in Torrance for over 72 years.

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And, whereas Mrs. Campazi has always been caring and hardworking.

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She has seen many changes over the last century and remains vibrant and hopeful.

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She enjoys watching old movies, singing, listening to classical music, and visiting her 21 grand and great grandchildren.

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Over the years, Mary has participated in city events honoring veterans such as the Armed Forces

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Day Parade and our hometown heroes military banner recognition program.

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She has been featured in news articles as well as on local television, most recently highlighted

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on K-ABC 7 news on December 30, 2022.

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Now, therefore, George K. Chen, Mayor of the City of Torrance, does hereby proclaim Mary

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and the Kempazzi at the blessed age of 102 as Centenarian of the City of Torrance,

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and wish her a continued lifelong prosperity and the esteem of the entire community with

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a distinguished and incredible life, signed this 14th day of March 2023.

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although she could not be with us tonight, accepting this proclamation is her dear son Dean

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Kempassy.

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Would you like to come up, everyone?

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Thank

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you.

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you very much.

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Thank you very much.

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Okay.

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Moving on to our next item, item 6B of proclamation declaring March 27th through March 31st

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First 2023 has tsunami awareness week in the city of Torrance.

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Councilmember Codgy.

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Thank you, Your Honor.

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Whereas the city of Torrance recognizes the importance of emergency preparedness in the event of a tsunami which pose a significant and ongoing threat to the city,

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tsunami can happen anywhere along the coast of the United States.

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Torrents understands it is at great risk.

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And whereas tsunamis can cause flooding,

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disrupt transportation, power, communications,

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and the water supply, tsunamis are a series

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of enormous ocean waves caused by earthquakes,

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underwater landslides, volcanic eruptions, or asteroids.

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A tsunami can kill our injured people

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and damage or destroyed buildings and infrastructure as waves come in and go out.

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And, whereas, awareness of a natural tsunami warning signs save lives in areas close to the coastline.

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The Los Angeles County Department of Beaches and Harbors manages the beach emergency evacuation light system or

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beels at Torrance Beach.

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Beels incorporates a siren evacuation announcements in English and Spanish specific to the type of event.

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and flashing white LED lights mounted on permanent structures and lifeguard towers which flash

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slowly for water-only evacuation and quickly for full water and beach evacuation.

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And, whereas if you see warning signs, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

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and Department of Beaches and Harbors advise the following in the event of a tsunami, one,

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keep calm. Two, move to higher ground that is at least 100 feet in elevation a

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mile inland or to the highest floor of a sturdy building and stay there if

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there are no evacuation routes defined. Three, immediately move to your local

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tsunami shelter using defined tsunami evacuation routes. Four, do not move from a

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safe location until officials advise it is safe.

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Five, move on foot when possible, do not drive.

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Keep roads clear for emergency vehicles.

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Six, stay tuned to NOAA Weather Radio,

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news broadcast, or social media for changes in tsunami alerts.

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until local officials say it's safe to return.

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And whereas, national tsunami

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So the tsunami awareness week will be the week of March 27th through March 31st, 2023. By participating in national tsunami awareness week, the city of Torrance can encourage and educate residents on tsunami preparedness by encouraging them to register to participate at, remember this, www.sunamizone.org slash how to participate. And there will be a test. Whereas by supporting the national tsunami awareness week, the city of Torrance can

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and encourage city employees as well as the rest of the community to participate and learn how to be prepared in the case of a tsunami.

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To learn more about staying informed, please register for Torrance Alerts at www.torrance.ca.gov slash Torrance Alerts.

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Now, therefore, George K. Chen, as mayor of the City of Torrance, California, does hereby

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proclaim March 27th through March 31st, 2023 as National Sunami Awareness Week and urges

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residents of the City of Torrance to recognize such a week as an opportunity to learn more about

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the work of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration in the Los Angeles County Department

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of beaches and harbor warning for and mitigating the impact of tsunamis by educating citizens

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about the potential risks of these natural disasters.

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Signed this 14th day of March 2023, accepting this proclamation will be a unique day emergency

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services coordinator and Alexandra Perez management aid.

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evening. Council, I just wanted to introduce Alexander Perez. She is our management

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aid with the Office of Emergency Services. She's been helping a lot with our community

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preparedness and outreach, especially for our local hazard mitigation plan update.

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Hi everyone. It's nice to meet you all. I'm happy to be here.

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Well, thank you.

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The next item, very important to me, is a proclamation declaring March 2023

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23 as a woman's history month in the city of Torrance, and I would be honored if Council Member Lewis would read this proclamation.

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Thank you, Mayor Kalani, this is an honor to do it during this meeting.

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Whereas in the month of March, the city of Torrance will celebrate accomplishments and the countless ways women of every race, class, and ethnic background have contributed to the strength of this nation through their leadership and

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and medications in fields including education, medicine, government, business, law, military

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service, and every other field.

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And whereas women's history month grew out of a week-long celebration of women's contributions

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organized by the Sonoma School District in California in 1978 and became a national celebration

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in 1981 when Congress authorized and requested the President to proclaim the week of March

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7th, 1982 as Women's History Week, and were in 1987 after being petitioned by the National

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Women's History Project, Congress designated the month of March 1987 as Women's History

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Month.

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Presidents every year since have issued annual proclamations celebrating the contributions

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and achievements women have made over the course of American history, and whereas the National

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Women's History Alliance theme for the 2023 Women's History Month is celebrating women

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who tell our stories. In recognition of women, past and present, who have been active in

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all forms of media and storytelling including print, radio, TV, stage, screens, blogs, podcasts,

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city cable, and more. The theme honors women in every community who have donated their lives and

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talents to producing art, pursuing the truth, and reflecting the human condition

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decade after decade. And, whereas, while much has been accomplished in the United

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States with respect to gender parity, women in other countries still face

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cultural, legal, economic, and social challenges. Many of these women have loved

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ones here in this room today. These women should not be forgotten, nor should

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their achievements to bring about social changes.

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And whereas the City of Torrance has been fortunate to have many women who have served

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or currently served in key leadership positions in various industries.

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This includes former mayor's Katie Geysert and DeHeartison, as well as many other women

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who have or currently serve on this council as well as on city commissions and committees.

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And, now therefore, George K. Chen, as Mayor of the City of Torrance, California, does

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hereby proclaim March 2023 as Women's History Month, and encourage residents of the City

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of Torrance to celebrate and honor the women who make a difference in their lives and continue

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to support and recognize women and leadership roles.

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sign this 14th of March 2023 and in acceptance of this proclamation our dear Lynn

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Robinson president of the Torrance Women's Club will be coming up to the

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podium. Thank you.

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I want to thank the council and the city and the mayor for

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recognizing women's history month and recognizing all of the women who have helped

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shape the city of Torrance and the South Bay.

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Mayor.

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Mayor.

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Mayor.

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Mayor.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Now, do you want to remind the public that a lot of people see us taking photos?

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I was thought like those photos that we take go into the abyss.

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But there's actually a link on the website where people can go and see all the photos.

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And sometimes I guess even dating back a few years.

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So it's really a nice way to archive the memories that we make here at the podium.

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Do you want to remind everybody, I don't know what that address is, but Thornca.gov is the.

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It's under the City Council meetings. We have it logged in.

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On the City Council meeting.

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Push that out as well in social media.

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Yeah, I think it's a great link that people need to see.

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Again, there's a lot of historical data in there.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, sir.

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We'll be moving on now to item number seven, oral communications number one.

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This portion of the meeting is limited to a 15-minute period and

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reserve for comment on items under the consent calendar or items that are not on the agenda.

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Under the Ralph M. Brown Act, City Council cannot act on items raised during public comment.

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but may respond briefly to statements made or questions posed, request clarification or refer the item to staff.

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Speakers under oral are limited to either oral communication one or oral communication two and no longer than one minute per speaker.

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Speakers, please turn off or leave your cell phones when you come to the podium to speak.

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If presenting handout material to council, please provide 10 copies to the city clerk before speaking.

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have a handout, I would like to pull for discussion, consent calendar items, 8E and 8F City Treasurer Accepted and File Investment Reports for the Months of December 2022 and January 2023.

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As per my handout on these agenda items, the up-to-date being of the city's ending bank balance for the seven months of fiscal year, 2022 and 2023 is $26 million, $140,650, please make an order for it.

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Thank you, next speaker please and could we maybe call a few up so they know who's next, thank you.

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Yes, Your Honor, Marianne, Michelle and Thera.

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Do you want to wait, can I go?

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Okay, yeah, I just wanted to, again, bring up the fact that Torrance Police Department still needs to be held accountable for killing Christopher DeAndre Mitchell

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and then also for the horrible racist text messaging scandal that 30 officers were involved in.

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They talked about killing black people and killing black children and putting them in coffins.

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And then this council still refuses to create an independent civilian oversight committee

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as paid tens of millions of dollars in litigation costs for the police's misconduct.

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And then now on the agenda items such as 8B,

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want to give them more benefits and more money and raises to the people that are committing

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these violent acts against the community. And especially when so many other city employees

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are asking just for livable wages, you continue to instead reward the police for committing

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these gross violent acts. So just want to stand in solidarity with this city employee.

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Thank you. Next speaker please.

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solidarity with all working people of the world, including real unions.

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And as a femursuing the truth, as mentioned in your proclamation, I'm here in solidarity

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with the family of Christopher DeAndre Mitchell to demand that you listen to the families

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whose loved ones were murdered by Torrance Police and establish an independent civilian oversight

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commission to investigate police misconduct, brutality, and the racist anti-Semitic queer

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phobic and toxic culture of the Torrance Police Department.

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We demand that you fire all the officers involved in the hateful racist text messaging scandal

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and prosecute all offending officers for their heinous discrimination and hate crimes.

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We know that Matthew Kankannon, murderer of Christopher DeAndre Mitchell, exchanged texts

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about lies he told in the deposition he gave about the only shooting he was ever involved

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in.

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This disgusting admission confirms his premeditated murder of Christopher unveiling deep

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departmental racism and hatred of BIPOC folks.

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Stop protecting these killer cops, none of us are safe while they're unleashed on our communities.

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Civilian oversight holds power accountable, and this is a depart-

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Thank you, ma'am, your time is up.

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Dr. Starr, it's Scott Deepman.

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Good evening, council.

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Chief to me.

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I just wanted to share, my name's Scott, member of Torx Firefighters Association.

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We have two large fundraising events coming up.

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I wanted to share the first ones, your very own Torx Fire Pipes and Drums Band.

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holding a fundraiser at Brues Hall pub on 21770 Glamo Circle East near the

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Ralphson target over there and the second back finally after three year hiatus

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is our annual spaghetti dinner fundraiser taking place right over here at the Ken

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Miller Rec Center that will be on the 25th of March and that will go from 4.30 to 8 p.m.

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Both of which are benefiting the Alyssa Ann Roosh burn foundation, and we'd just like to invite everybody to come out and support.

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The first one is this Saturday, the 18th at the Bruise Hall, to celebrate St. Patrick's Day, and it's a family, friendly event, both of them.

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So, come on out, hope to see there.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, sir.

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No one else signed up before the meeting started.

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Is there anyone else that would like to speak?

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Hi,

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good evening. My name is Eric Fein and I live in District 6. This is regarding

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let it fuel in the gasoline from the airplanes at the Torrance Airport. I'd like to request

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that the council have the city manager request a briefing from the Environmental Protection

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Agency on the impact of let it fuel in gasoline. If it hasn't been requested already, it can

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and provide you all with more information about the impact of airplanes flying, not just

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noise at the Torrents Airport as you all

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Next slide, on next steps. Thank you.

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Thank you, sir.

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Greetings, city council. You are invited to an opening reception for CoLab 5, an unburnt witch and public domain film series on Saturday, March 25th, from 6 to 9 p.m. at the Torrance Art Museum. The exhibitions were run through Saturday, May 6th. CoLab 5, Los Angeles and the world is on display in the main gallery. CoLab is the museum's global contemporary art program where

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are as run galleries from around the world

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are invited to partner with Silkowans.

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This year, iteration features galleries from Johannesburg,

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Madrid's Stockholm and Seoul,

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clavory with galleries from LA.

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An unburnt witch, an immersion into the drawings of Zach Smith,

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transforms gallery to into a space

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where people can relax on a couch and take an art at their leisure.

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In the dark room, guests can enjoy

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plubbing the main film series,

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films that made the movies.

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a different film is featured every week.

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For more information about the museum shows,

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visit tornsrmuseum.com or go to at thank

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you.

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Hi there, I'm Tiffany.

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I'm very concerned about just like my husband

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with the let it fuel that is being dumped pretty much

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every day onto all of our properties.

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So he had contacted Ted Luzoffice

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and they had mentioned that it was better

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that the city council that requests from the EPA, that report, also when we had that meeting

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with the sling airport, they had mentioned that they use unleaded fuel. However, I found

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out that it is only sling that uses unleaded fuel, and everyone else uses leaded fuel, sling

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makes up only 18% of the planes. They even said it multiple times that meeting, so it really

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The amount of let it fuel that is dumped on all of us, everybody lives in torrents here, so it's not good

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There's air product. It goes into the air. It goes on to you. I don't know if we have lemons and oranges in our backyard

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I don't know if you do too. So it's hand to mouth and kids touch it so it's very dangerous and

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Good evening councilmembers Julie Dorjuri, New Horizons resident, and I'm here to thank public works

443
00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:40,320
We have a mailbox on the corner of 29th and 18th circle, and that mailbox was made

444
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,800
a move by the post office about seven times.

445
00:47:45,380 --> 00:47:54,360
They never filled in all the little holes that the legs made, and it became a very difficult

446
00:47:54,360 --> 00:48:01,780
safety issue for our residents who frequent there to cross the street, to mail something

447
00:48:01,780 --> 00:48:12,540
because with Canes, they were, their Canes got stuck in the hole or it was very difficult for people and walkers to walk there.

448
00:48:12,940 --> 00:48:18,740
So one of our residents sent a work request to Public Works.

449
00:48:19,620 --> 00:48:25,000
The very next day, Public Works was out there.

450
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:32,780
Thank you, thank you.

451
00:48:32,780 --> 00:48:33,540
Everyone,

452
00:48:38,220 --> 00:48:43,940
this is Andy Porciop, I almost could make it today, but you know, I took everything

453
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,260
to get here.

454
00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:52,360
I would like to congratulate you to running the city, especially Mr. Shaparian, because

455
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:59,640
without him permission and the various department, what's the name of that?

456
00:48:59,860 --> 00:49:02,400
Sling couldn't operate here in Toronto.

457
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:10,160
We had a very unfortunate day. They told the people 105 fights after they knew that the

458
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:18,940
rain is coming. They opted up for 200 flights. Anyway, instead of paying RM Shaperian 400,000

459
00:49:18,940 --> 00:49:24,220
plus a year and giving him raises, we should hire this guy, what's his name?

460
00:49:24,220 --> 00:49:35,680
wine totem, and he would run this show like crazy. He is on YouTube, he is on the TV channels,

461
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,860
he is promising everything.

462
00:49:41,010 --> 00:49:41,670
Thank you, sir.

463
00:49:49,220 --> 00:49:50,260
Is there anyone else?

464
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:53,710
Okay, we'll go ahead

465
00:49:53,710 --> 00:49:59,290
and move on to item number eight, the consent calendar. We've already had a request to pull

466
00:49:59,290 --> 00:50:07,050
items 8E and 8F. Does any council member wish to pull any other items? Councilmember Griffiths?

467
00:50:07,590 --> 00:50:09,870
I'd like to talk about 8C, please.

468
00:50:17,150 --> 00:50:22,450
Okay, so right now we're pulling item 8C, 8E and 8F. Do we

469
00:50:22,450 --> 00:50:28,330
have a motion to accept the balance of items, please? I make a motion to accept the balance of the

470
00:50:28,330 --> 00:50:32,150
items for the exception of a C-A-E-A-T-F.

471
00:50:32,610 --> 00:50:32,970
Second.

472
00:50:36,020 --> 00:50:36,940
Third voting, please.

473
00:50:40,380 --> 00:50:43,060
You're under that motion carried with Mayor Chen absent.

474
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:44,520
Thank you.

475
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,800
And we'll start with item H-C, Council Member Griffiths.

476
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:49,680
Thank you, Mayor.

477
00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:55,040
On item H-C, this is a request for a subsidy.

478
00:50:57,060 --> 00:51:06,260
the council gets a small sum of $10,000 per year to grant to various causes of charities

479
00:51:06,260 --> 00:51:08,460
and so forth in our community.

480
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:15,700
And not that I have anything against the American Cancer Society, I think they do a tremendous

481
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:23,480
tremendous job and what they do and normally the money that we have for this budget is intended

482
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:29,920
for charities that are local to our city, and American Cancer Society, even though they work through our city,

483
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,860
they're certainly not a local organization.

484
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:40,160
And I don't want to say no to them completely, but they're asking for almost 20% of our annual subsidy money that we have for the whole year.

485
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:50,040
And I would like to request and I would make this motion that we limit them to a maximum of 1000 per year instead of the 2000 that they're asking for.

486
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:50,600
If

487
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,440
there's no other comments, that would be the motion that I will make.

488
00:51:59,600 --> 00:51:59,920
Okay.

489
00:52:12,220 --> 00:52:12,760
Councilmember Klein.

490
00:52:13,820 --> 00:52:14,260
Second.

491
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:25,030
Okay.

492
00:52:28,130 --> 00:52:28,570
Okay.

493
00:52:28,650 --> 00:52:29,910
We have a motion in a second.

494
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:47,400
I just wanted to see if we could restate the motion with the correct amount on it.

495
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:48,980
Yeah.

496
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:55,080
The motion would be to a maximum of $1,000 per year instead of the $2,000 that was requested.

497
00:52:57,380 --> 00:52:58,100
No, no, no.

498
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,700
That's just for this particular request from American Cancer Society.

499
00:53:00,700 --> 00:53:15,000
They're asking for $2,000 a year, and I'm suggesting because they're not a local charity organization which is where this money usually is intended to go, that we restrict them to $1,000 and save the rest of that money for our local charities.

500
00:53:16,140 --> 00:53:16,760
Thank you.

501
00:53:17,260 --> 00:53:23,200
Any questions, Mayor? Do we have anyone from cancer sighted to make their case or anybody

502
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,860
to have any comments?

503
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:33,670
I don't believe we have representatives. Do you do have the option for the group to come

504
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:38,710
back in the future and request additional funding above and beyond the amount that you're

505
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:42,810
authorizing this evening? But I will yield to our economic book manager, if she has an

506
00:53:44,210 --> 00:53:44,850
But

507
00:53:54,420 --> 00:54:02,440
yes, the request was for subsidizing the events for this year, but then also asking

508
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:07,100
for the next five years, which we have done in the past.

509
00:54:07,580 --> 00:54:13,820
But we could certainly come back next year to ask for funding for that year and so on,

510
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,940
or limiting the amounts or what the subsidy would cover.

511
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,620
So it's up to the council.

512
00:54:20,620 --> 00:54:25,660
And the group understands that, that it's being taken to council for approval.

513
00:54:26,340 --> 00:54:29,940
So Ms. Fulton, do you know how much we gave them last year?

514
00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:37,160
I think it was a little bit less.

515
00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:42,590
Mayor Pro Tem, Danny Santana, Assistant City Manager.

516
00:54:42,890 --> 00:54:47,690
In prior years, at least since 2018, we provided $1,600 on an annual basis.

517
00:54:48,250 --> 00:54:50,550
Or the relay for life and bark for life events.

518
00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:52,010
Thank you.

519
00:54:52,010 --> 00:55:02,030
If I may just make a comment, it is true that although they aren't local, cancer affects

520
00:55:02,030 --> 00:55:07,330
a lot of people, and it affects a lot of our residents in the city of Torrance.

521
00:55:07,590 --> 00:55:15,290
So I'm going to keep that in mind when I vote on the motion and the second to approve

522
00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:18,910
their subsidy, but at only $1,000.

523
00:55:19,550 --> 00:55:40,830
Yeah, I just want to further explain the reason for my motion is that we have an extremely limited budget to support our local charities, historically, and that's why I'm making this motion is I've been on this council for nine years and historically we try to keep that $10,000 reserve for local charities, I have absolutely nothing against the American Cancer Society.

524
00:55:40,830 --> 00:56:02,410
I think they do tremendous work, but they're also extremely well financed unlike many of the charities here locally who really really need that money and since we have a such a limited amount, that's the only reason that I'm requesting that we reserve that money for our local charities who really need that assistance and it has absolutely nothing to do with anything against any particular charity.

525
00:56:02,410 --> 00:56:06,270
We could also, if you will, we could also come back to,

526
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:08,370
and depending on how much is left in the budget,

527
00:56:08,370 --> 00:56:10,950
if that was available, we could come back to ask for it

528
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:12,150
for the Cancer Society.

529
00:56:12,650 --> 00:56:13,210
Thank you.

530
00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:14,510
Council Member Moutici.

531
00:56:15,930 --> 00:56:16,790
Yeah, thank you.

532
00:56:16,930 --> 00:56:22,290
Thank you, Chair, I really do think that they do a lot of work.

533
00:56:22,610 --> 00:56:26,770
And I think the real issue is that we only have $10,000.

534
00:56:27,650 --> 00:56:29,850
It's not other things that $1,000 or $2,000.

535
00:56:29,850 --> 00:56:48,910
I mean, I, you know, I don't know what the process is to, you know, possibly increase that $10,000, you know, I'd say at least 5,000 or 10,000, maybe double it, because there are a lot of organizations who do a lot of great work in the, within the city.

536
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:58,130
And I think if they service the city, I think they're equally beneficial for the residents, you know, and especially cancer.

537
00:56:58,130 --> 00:57:03,970
or cancer is not something that you choose to have, you know, I think cancer society has

538
00:57:03,970 --> 00:57:10,510
done a great job at pulling people together and giving people hope and yes they are well

539
00:57:10,510 --> 00:57:18,410
financed but it's a huge, huge, huge undertaking what they have so I'd like to give it a $2,000

540
00:57:19,650 --> 00:57:27,210
and also raise, raise our budget, I know, that's when a budget will can consider when we come

541
00:57:27,210 --> 00:57:29,110
come back to you, part of the budget process.

542
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:34,170
I believe we have a first and a second on the floor for voting with the older respect

543
00:57:34,170 --> 00:57:39,890
to the commentary, unless the council members want to withdraw their motion and restate.

544
00:57:40,510 --> 00:57:42,030
But can I follow up a second piece?

545
00:57:42,210 --> 00:57:44,350
Yeah, I have one other comment to make too.

546
00:57:44,830 --> 00:57:48,390
I think this is allowing for 2000 but they may not use that much either.

547
00:57:48,850 --> 00:57:52,810
I know for one of the events that they're planning for this year, they did find another location.

548
00:57:52,810 --> 00:57:56,630
It's not a city facility, so there's that to consider as well.

549
00:57:56,630 --> 00:58:01,950
I know, but I think it's such a small amount that we're, you know, arguing over.

550
00:58:02,730 --> 00:58:03,990
But everything adds up.

551
00:58:04,450 --> 00:58:08,950
I understand that point, and I do want to obviously support local nonprofits.

552
00:58:09,210 --> 00:58:16,030
But I think if we can reconsider the motion to keep it at $2,000, I'd go for that.

553
00:58:17,150 --> 00:58:20,190
Just to clear, this is for the rental facility.

554
00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:23,410
It's not the liquid, the cash that we're giving it to them, right?

555
00:58:23,410 --> 00:58:28,190
Right. It's the cost because we can't wave it. It needs to be paid somewhere

556
00:58:28,190 --> 00:58:33,650
So we're covering the cost to this right right. There's no liquid donation from the city to them

557
00:58:33,650 --> 00:58:37,030
It's just having them used its facility. Right. All right. Thank you

558
00:58:38,410 --> 00:58:42,050
Any other comments? Okay the motion on the floor is to

559
00:58:43,170 --> 00:58:45,390
Approved the item at the amount of $1,000

560
00:58:46,190 --> 00:58:52,990
Yeah, I just want to reiterate again. This is they're asking for 20% of our very small annual budget for

561
00:58:53,570 --> 00:59:00,290
subsidies for our local charities, and I would modify my motion to say if we have money left over

562
00:59:00,290 --> 00:59:05,450
that we don't spend of that $10,000, I have no problem having the American Cancer Society

563
00:59:05,450 --> 00:59:11,330
receive any overage applied towards any of the rentals, if that will make my motion more amenable.

564
00:59:11,870 --> 00:59:11,950
Yep.

565
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,320
I agree to the modification of the motion.

566
00:59:17,260 --> 00:59:18,380
Start voting, please.

567
00:59:22,060 --> 00:59:24,960
Your Honor, that motion carries with Mayor Chinatown.

568
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:25,920
Okay.

569
00:59:28,530 --> 00:59:32,830
Thank you. Moving on to items A, E, and A, F.

570
00:59:35,490 --> 00:59:37,530
I'm sorry. Trevor, a treasure. Good, Rich.

571
00:59:37,710 --> 00:59:41,450
Thank you, Mayor. Tim Gooder, to be treasure. I would just like to request approval from

572
00:59:41,450 --> 00:59:46,890
the council that at a future council meeting we bring forward an item to present a general

573
00:59:46,890 --> 00:59:49,970
update on the Treasurer's Office to the community at large.

574
00:59:52,570 --> 00:59:53,990
Any comments from council?

575
00:59:56,220 --> 00:59:59,940
I think catch I think catch the last part I've been working on

576
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:13,360
We're on an update for the community to allow people to see the progress that we're making in the city treasurer's office and the plans for the future as well. And we would just like to request approval to bring that forward tentatively right now scheduled for April.

577
01:00:16,730 --> 01:00:17,410
Thank you.

578
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,620
Okay. We have concurrence six, so.

579
01:00:29,150 --> 01:00:39,570
And I want to ask you, Ben, does council have any questions on item 80? Even though a member of the audience, a member of the public requested that item be pulled. The public comments are

580
01:00:39,570 --> 01:00:42,990
for items on orals and add them,

581
01:00:43,550 --> 01:00:47,150
for consent calendar are limited to oral communications portion.

582
01:00:47,450 --> 01:00:50,050
So unless councilors any questions to the treasurer,

583
01:00:50,450 --> 01:00:51,610
you can make a motion to approve.

584
01:00:52,110 --> 01:00:52,570
Thank you.

585
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:54,470
Any comments?

586
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:56,730
If not, can I have a motion to approve a item?

587
01:00:57,570 --> 01:00:58,430
Let me ask the question.

588
01:00:58,530 --> 01:00:58,650
Sure.

589
01:01:01,010 --> 01:01:03,850
So are you going to talk about this item in detail?

590
01:01:04,070 --> 01:01:04,650
That's what we're doing.

591
01:01:04,950 --> 01:01:06,050
Next time when we bring it up.

592
01:01:07,090 --> 01:01:09,650
No, no, not the specific consent calendar item.

593
01:01:09,650 --> 01:01:20,230
This would be a separate detail update to provide details on the community about what's transpired in the treasure's office and also what we have scheduled for the future as well.

594
01:01:20,550 --> 01:01:21,030
Thank you.

595
01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:22,090
A bigger picture.

596
01:01:22,630 --> 01:01:22,690
Right.

597
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:23,470
Thank you.

598
01:01:23,850 --> 01:01:24,470
Thank you, Mayor.

599
01:01:25,130 --> 01:01:27,490
Of course, any other comments from Council?

600
01:01:29,310 --> 01:01:32,150
Okay. Motion to approve items 8E and 8F.

601
01:01:33,150 --> 01:01:33,990
So moved.

602
01:01:34,210 --> 01:01:35,490
8E, 8F.

603
01:01:36,030 --> 01:01:36,350
Second.

604
01:01:42,060 --> 01:01:44,460
You're under that motion carries with Mayor Chinatham.

605
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:02,500
Okay.

606
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:07,040
Now we're moving on to item 9A administrative matters.

607
01:02:11,820 --> 01:02:15,780
Good evening, Mayor Pro Tem, members of the City Council, Danny Santana with the City

608
01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:16,540
Managers Office.

609
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,960
Before you this evening is the second edition of the City of Torrance's Year in Review.

610
01:02:21,620 --> 01:02:22,220
Next slide, please.

611
01:02:23,940 --> 01:02:28,400
The purpose of the annual report is to provide a high-level review of projects and divisions

612
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,460
across all 14 city departments during the calendar year 2022.

613
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:37,600
The intent is to communicate the breadth of city services provided during such time.

614
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:38,520
Next slide please.

615
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:43,900
Throughout the report information is presented in various forms.

616
01:02:44,420 --> 01:02:48,420
These include brief narratives, statistics, and visual imagery. Together,

617
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,380
they help convey a complete understanding of the various services and projects

618
01:02:52,380 --> 01:02:56,940
and how they have a direct correlation to our residents, businesses and visitors.

619
01:02:56,940 --> 01:03:00,960
next slide please. QR codes have been

620
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,060
better to allow for easy scanning with a

621
01:03:03,060 --> 01:03:05,780
smartphone device or a click from a desktop

622
01:03:05,780 --> 01:03:08,060
or tablet when trying to learn more about

623
01:03:08,060 --> 01:03:09,960
a specific project or department.

624
01:03:10,460 --> 01:03:13,200
Next slide please. Following Council's

625
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,460
review and concurrence, the report will be

626
01:03:15,460 --> 01:03:17,020
distributed digitally through all city

627
01:03:17,020 --> 01:03:19,840
social media handles. The report is also

628
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,920
easily found on the city's main web page

629
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,860
Torrent CA docked up. A very limited

630
01:03:24,860 --> 01:03:30,820
print run was completed to be mindful of both costs and the reports associated environmental footprint.

631
01:03:31,620 --> 01:03:37,460
Next slide please. Despite lingering pandemic challenges for struts, then storms,

632
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:42,560
city departments do it all, and their teams took pride in maintaining and improving critical

633
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:48,800
infrastructure and advancing city services, services that torrents residents and businesses rely on.

634
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:54,720
Next slide please. On behalf of the city manager, we would like to thank the departments for providing

635
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:59,620
wonderful, wonderful representations of their operations and the municipal service delivery

636
01:03:59,620 --> 01:04:00,000
of them.

637
01:04:00,940 --> 01:04:06,640
An additional special note of gratitude to graphic designer Alan Tang, who helped with

638
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:12,020
the design and layout and the city manager's office, Jill Reed, who helped with coordinating

639
01:04:12,020 --> 01:04:17,680
with the departments to gather the content, editing and image sourcing, many of which she

640
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,460
took on her own and personal camera.

641
01:04:20,380 --> 01:04:25,820
Finally, staff also, thanks the Council for their continued guidance and support of City

642
01:04:25,820 --> 01:04:29,280
staff and your consideration of the material you have before you this evening.

643
01:04:29,820 --> 01:04:30,880
We're available for any questions.

644
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:31,460
Thank you.

645
01:04:35,250 --> 01:04:36,850
Council Member Griffiths.

646
01:04:37,310 --> 01:04:37,790
Thank you, Mayor.

647
01:04:38,010 --> 01:04:38,550
No question.

648
01:04:39,470 --> 01:04:40,470
Just a compliment.

649
01:04:40,770 --> 01:04:45,710
I think it's a tremendously well put together document that really kind of gives a great

650
01:04:45,710 --> 01:04:48,650
visual snapshot of what's happened in our past year.

651
01:04:48,650 --> 01:04:55,550
And you already said it, thinking the staff that put this together, I'm sure it was a tremendous amount of work, and it shows.

652
01:04:55,830 --> 01:04:58,130
And I wanted to just compliment everybody for putting it together.

653
01:05:02,140 --> 01:05:03,980
Any other comments from the council?

654
01:05:05,900 --> 01:05:06,660
Councilmember Lewis?

655
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:17,120
I know what it takes to put together a document like this, and I'd like to thank staff, and especially our in-house Martha Stewart, who is Jill Reed.

656
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,240
Jill, can you stand up and take your applause?

657
01:05:20,660 --> 01:05:23,900
She does a lot for us and we do appreciate that.

658
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,020
Thank you, Mayor.

659
01:05:30,270 --> 01:05:31,750
I'd like to make a brief comment.

660
01:05:31,910 --> 01:05:38,210
I just would like to thank everyone as well for this year's review and the pride that

661
01:05:38,210 --> 01:05:40,350
you can see in its presentation.

662
01:05:40,610 --> 01:05:45,990
It just makes me feel so appreciative of being able to live in such a great city.

663
01:05:46,170 --> 01:05:47,690
So thank you all very, very much.

664
01:05:48,410 --> 01:05:53,070
Do we have any other comments from Council if not we'll go to the to the audience.

665
01:05:54,310 --> 01:05:57,290
Would anybody like to comment on item 9A?

666
01:06:03,620 --> 01:06:04,480
I don't see anybody.

667
01:06:04,740 --> 01:06:05,420
We have a motion.

668
01:06:06,420 --> 01:06:11,560
I make a motion to accept and file the City of Torrance 2022 year-in-review item 9A.

669
01:06:12,260 --> 01:06:12,580
Second.

670
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:14,680
Start voting please.

671
01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:19,170
Governor that motion carried with Mayor Chen absent.

672
01:06:23,950 --> 01:06:24,890
Thank you very much.

673
01:06:24,890 --> 01:06:27,590
which we're now moving on to item 9B.

674
01:06:27,850 --> 01:06:28,990
Is there a staff presentation?

675
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,120
Good evening, Mayor Portemps.

676
01:06:36,340 --> 01:06:38,220
Members of the City Council, my name is Carlos Wiesar.

677
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:39,780
I'm as Associate of the City Manager's Office.

678
01:06:40,460 --> 01:06:43,540
Covering this item for any honk with the City Manager's Office.

679
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,320
Tonight's item is requesting City Council approval

680
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,860
to extend an ongoing or existing agreement with the City

681
01:06:51,860 --> 01:06:55,060
and the Los Angeles County Registrar Recorder's County clerk office

682
01:06:55,060 --> 01:07:02,860
to basically allow for an additional five years for the vote by mail ballot box that's

683
01:07:02,860 --> 01:07:10,100
located between the Katie Gerser Library and the human resources building. The LA County

684
01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:14,960
has reached out to the city as we're approaching the expiration of our current agreement with

685
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:21,200
interest of extending the agreement for five years. Fortunately, we have three options.

686
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:26,340
We can either one extend the agreement for one additional year, we can extend the current

687
01:07:26,340 --> 01:07:31,040
agreement for five additional years, or no action essentially allow the agreement

688
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:31,860
to expire.

689
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,000
For this item, there was supplemental material provided.

690
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:42,120
We received a request from a council member asking for the breakdown and costs for the

691
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:51,060
the elections, starting with the earliest years of 2016, that cost ran around $204,000,

692
01:07:51,540 --> 01:07:54,420
and it kind of increased incrementally.

693
01:07:54,640 --> 01:08:01,320
For the 2022 election year, the city paid about $566,309.72.

694
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:07,360
My understanding of that also includes any postage that was received for the mail inbox.

695
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,020
Staff is available for any questions.

696
01:08:10,020 --> 01:08:15,230
Thank you, Council Member Macintosh.

697
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:18,950
Yeah, thank you, Mayor Pro Temp.

698
01:08:20,670 --> 01:08:24,150
I was here when we had this discussion a few years back.

699
01:08:24,930 --> 01:08:28,650
And I think it's a very, very important discussion to have.

700
01:08:29,270 --> 01:08:33,590
And I really do feel that we'd better serve the public

701
01:08:33,590 --> 01:08:35,610
if we had a full council here.

702
01:08:35,710 --> 01:08:39,810
Therefore, I'd like to move that we table this until next meeting.

703
01:08:39,810 --> 01:08:42,710
If that's agreeable,

704
01:08:48,290 --> 01:08:53,530
that's my motion to table this on to the next meeting if

705
01:08:54,850 --> 01:08:56,910
If time permits that city clerk.

706
01:09:00,740 --> 01:09:03,200
Do we have a second to that motion?

707
01:09:04,900 --> 01:09:06,560
I second I

708
01:09:13,820 --> 01:09:16,680
apologize. We need to go back. You had a comment, sir

709
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:21,380
If this motion passes then I'll reserve my comments for the next discussion.

710
01:09:28,740 --> 01:09:30,760
We have a motion in a second

711
01:09:33,610 --> 01:09:35,590
You ask for if the public has any comment

712
01:09:36,450 --> 01:09:37,410
Thank you.

713
01:09:38,150 --> 01:09:41,270
Do we have members of the public that want to comment?

714
01:09:48,620 --> 01:09:49,720
And the poor chap again.

715
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:55,620
I would just like to say that I like that we can vote and I don't know what was wrong

716
01:09:55,620 --> 01:10:01,340
with the old system when we could go and vote, you know, and stand in line and talk to our

717
01:10:01,340 --> 01:10:07,320
neighbors and everything, you know, and you were there, you see the system and everything.

718
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:12,860
nice big and just you know dropping dropping in something in the box and you know

719
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:18,820
it's it's it's not as it used to be you know what I mean but probably this is

720
01:10:18,820 --> 01:10:25,000
cheaper and it's really doesn't matter you know what I mean so I think I'm

721
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:29,560
not even gonna vote anymore because you know look look what's going on here you know

722
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:35,820
what I mean and it's not not to this thing but I'm just letting you know the

723
01:10:35,820 --> 01:10:39,320
the banks are collapsing in America, big booboo.

724
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:46,340
So I don't know how creamy good rich can I handle this, you know, and he's not here to

725
01:10:46,340 --> 01:10:49,660
listen what I'm saying, but you know, tighten your bets.

726
01:10:50,140 --> 01:10:51,780
It's going to be a terrible time.

727
01:10:52,060 --> 01:10:52,460
Thank you.

728
01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:56,280
Thank you, sir.

729
01:10:56,660 --> 01:10:58,780
Is there anyone else that would like to comment on this?

730
01:11:03,550 --> 01:11:04,030
Okay.

731
01:11:04,150 --> 01:11:04,810
We have a motion.

732
01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:06,570
Just a minute request.

733
01:11:06,810 --> 01:11:07,050
Sorry.

734
01:11:07,870 --> 01:11:12,370
Before we vote, I'd like to just ask that if this has come forward at the motion passed

735
01:11:12,370 --> 01:11:18,150
I'd like to request that this supplemental be included in the future meeting.

736
01:11:19,010 --> 01:11:19,450
Thank you.

737
01:11:23,140 --> 01:11:23,920
Start voting please.

738
01:11:27,790 --> 01:11:29,830
That motion carried with Mayor Chinatown.

739
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:33,220
Thank you.

740
01:11:33,540 --> 01:11:38,780
Moving on to item 9c from the city manager and human resources.

741
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,260
Is there a staff presentation?

742
01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:43,600
Good evening.

743
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:44,580
Excuse me.

744
01:11:44,900 --> 01:11:46,400
Good evening, Your Honor and Council members.

745
01:11:46,660 --> 01:11:48,160
Kelsey Wenders, human resources.

746
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,120
Item 9c is a recommendation to approve the reclassification

747
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:58,660
of Senior Administrative Assistant Cynthia Rosal to the Classification of Supervising Administrative Assistant.

748
01:11:59,060 --> 01:12:05,880
At the February 7th, 2023 meeting, your Honourable Body approved a reorganization of the Community Services Department,

749
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:13,100
which upgraded 1.0 Senior Administrative Assistant position to a 1.0 Supervising Administrative Assistant position.

750
01:12:13,980 --> 01:12:17,480
Per the policy on transfer of incumbent employees without examination,

751
01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:22,340
There are six criteria for considering a transfer of incumbent to positions that are reallocated.

752
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,860
This incumbent has met all six criteria.

753
01:12:25,900 --> 01:12:29,000
Based on the analysis of the factors and the involvement of the position,

754
01:12:29,220 --> 01:12:34,400
it is recommended that the incumbent, Cynthia Roselle, be reclassified from senior administrative assistant

755
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,600
to the classification of supervising administrative assistant.

756
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:39,540
Staff is available for any questions.

757
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:40,200
Thank you.

758
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:45,120
Any questions from the council?

759
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:46,900
Council members, she?

760
01:12:47,220 --> 01:12:47,800
Thank you, Mayor.

761
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:53,880
there. Thank you for the presentation. This is the one question to understand. So the

762
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:59,400
new chart that's shown here, that's the revised with the new title.

763
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:00,160
Correct.

764
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:08,160
So this is a supervising, admin assistant role, but do we have any personnel staff

765
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,200
they're reporting for to this supervise?

766
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:15,620
It will be working in conjunction with the managers within the department.

767
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:22,320
The administrative support staff will be reporting to that supervising position.

768
01:13:26,340 --> 01:13:29,280
Council Member Shea, I'm sorry, John LaRocque Community Services Department.

769
01:13:29,480 --> 01:13:32,340
I'll just fill in some additional information from the swinders.

770
01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:37,720
This position is directly reporting to me at the administrative level of community services.

771
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:49,840
and will supervise the administrative assistance in the cultural, in the parks, in the recreation, in the library, and secondary administration administrative assistance.

772
01:13:50,460 --> 01:13:57,980
So it is a department-wide supervisory role in cooperation with the managers of these division to run those admin assistance.

773
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:05,160
Thank you, Mr. Lerog, so admin assistance right next to it, that person or

774
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,180
would those individuals be report to?

775
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:11,640
That's a direct report to the supervising the incumbent in supervising, yes.

776
01:14:11,980 --> 01:14:14,940
So we will re-gave a light or your gap for that, though.

777
01:14:15,220 --> 01:14:15,440
Okay.

778
01:14:16,140 --> 01:14:16,860
Thank you, sir.

779
01:14:17,260 --> 01:14:17,520
Thank you.

780
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:22,240
Councilmember Lewis?

781
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:24,660
Thank you, Your Honor.

782
01:14:25,540 --> 01:14:32,900
I've spent six and a half years on civil service and one of the things that we specifically requested was

783
01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:42,380
This current work chart and proposed work chart changes, and I don't see the proposed changes because this is the existing one that we have.

784
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,740
So if I may, this is the current work chart.

785
01:14:48,660 --> 01:14:55,720
What is being proposed is to reallocate the incumbent who is currently under filling the supervising position.

786
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:56,660
Okay.

787
01:14:56,940 --> 01:14:59,940
And then according to Mr. LaRocque, she is going to...

788
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,660
Would you like to provide other people as a direct report to him? If I may, Councilwoman, we have several divisions within the community services and each one has a administrative assistant supporting the respective managers. The supervising administrative assistant will be providing the technical oversight. So they'll still continue to report to their and provide day-to-day functional support to each of the divisions that are assigned.

789
01:15:29,660 --> 01:15:39,520
But they'll have oversight of their training, supervision, payroll, all the clerical functionalities within those divisions.

790
01:15:39,900 --> 01:15:53,180
It doesn't reflect in this chart because there is an essence providing oversight to the individual who provide oversight to the various admin assistants in the various divisions that they're in.

791
01:15:53,180 --> 01:15:58,640
So they say they report to both their respective manager and this individual.

792
01:15:59,020 --> 01:16:00,020
Does that make sense, Sean?

793
01:16:00,780 --> 01:16:02,100
So now we have two questions.

794
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:17,480
I'll just add that this also allows us to continue our cross-training purposes across divisions so that any admin can supplement the absence of any other admin and supporting direct division responsibilities, but it doesn't cause a real alignment in the department.

795
01:16:17,480 --> 01:16:22,420
So, let me go back to my original question about the org charts proposed.

796
01:16:22,780 --> 01:16:26,720
Are we not, are we no longer providing those to civil service when you bring positions

797
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:27,900
or reorgues like this?

798
01:16:29,220 --> 01:16:33,880
So, it's my understanding correct me if I'm wrong, but the reorganization has already happened

799
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:40,640
through the program modifications through the budget approval on, I believe, it was February 7th.

800
01:16:40,740 --> 01:16:41,740
So, that already happened.

801
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,060
So, the position is in place.

802
01:16:43,060 --> 01:16:47,400
It's just currently being underfilled by this senior admin administrative assistant.

803
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:54,080
And so with the reallocation reclassification, this person incumbent would be placed to the supervising position.

804
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,380
So the chart that I'm looking at now is the results of the reorg.

805
01:16:58,800 --> 01:16:58,960
Correct.

806
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,740
Okay, so now here's my other question.

807
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,640
Right beside it, there's another administrative assistant.

808
01:17:05,060 --> 01:17:06,640
Can you explain that position to me?

809
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:12,720
And is this supervising administrative assistant now going to be this position supervisor?

810
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:23,560
Yes, so in the administrative division of community services there is currently a senior administrative assistant and an administrative assistant.

811
01:17:24,180 --> 01:17:30,280
The admin reports to the senior and would continue to report to the supervising file in your direction.

812
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:41,700
So this position should be under the supervising administrative assistant and we're not going to add a head count later for this person to supervise, correct?

813
01:17:41,700 --> 01:17:42,220
That's correct.

814
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:43,720
Okay.

815
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:48,660
Maybe in the future when we have these reorgs, we can do a proposed to make it more clear

816
01:17:48,660 --> 01:17:49,700
that that's what we're doing.

817
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:50,920
We can.

818
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:51,540
Thank you, Councillor.

819
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:57,590
Any other comments from the council?

820
01:17:58,890 --> 01:17:59,330
Okay.

821
01:17:59,330 --> 01:18:00,690
We'll take it to the public then.

822
01:18:01,450 --> 01:18:03,290
Would anybody like to comment on this item?

823
01:18:09,610 --> 01:18:09,830
Hello.

824
01:18:09,930 --> 01:18:10,910
This is Andy Porchup.

825
01:18:11,110 --> 01:18:11,290
Again.

826
01:18:11,850 --> 01:18:19,710
I would just like to add to this, we should create one more position for the supervisor, supervising

827
01:18:19,710 --> 01:18:25,270
the supervisors because that's very important to supervise. We have more supervisor than

828
01:18:25,270 --> 01:18:33,850
actual workers doing the work. You know, we have one supervisor and three people to supervise.

829
01:18:33,990 --> 01:18:40,550
You know what I mean? So, what is Mr. LeRog does? He cannot supervise how many people working for him.

830
01:18:41,890 --> 01:18:48,770
I mean, this is a joke. You know what I mean? This is like I hire three cleaning crew to clean up my

831
01:18:48,770 --> 01:18:56,350
beautiful yard and they come up with a supervisor and the supervisor come and check on the supervisor.

832
01:18:57,690 --> 01:19:04,570
I mean boss is not going anymore because no boss drivers, but we need more supervisors.

833
01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:08,330
I mean give me a break you know what I mean.

834
01:19:11,900 --> 01:19:15,480
Thank you sir. Would anyone else like to come in on this

835
01:19:15,480 --> 01:19:15,760
item.

836
01:19:18,420 --> 01:19:22,880
Okay, I'll bring it back to the council. Do we have a motion to concur?

837
01:19:35,250 --> 01:19:40,650
I'll make a motion to concur with the recommendation of the Civil Service Commissioner and the City Manager.

838
01:19:42,510 --> 01:19:49,130
Second, I also want to thank you, I just want to thank you for the community service to not

839
01:19:49,130 --> 01:19:53,510
adding a position and saving money. Thank you, sir. Second.

840
01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:53,610
Thank you.

841
01:19:53,770 --> 01:19:54,930
Start voting please.

842
01:19:58,100 --> 01:20:00,500
Your Honor, that motion carried with Mayor Chinethan.

843
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:03,960
Thank you.

844
01:20:04,060 --> 01:20:07,580
Moving on to item 90 from the City Manager and Community Services.

845
01:20:09,440 --> 01:20:13,260
Good evening, I will make a pro-10, members of the City Council, John LaRocque Community Services

846
01:20:13,260 --> 01:20:13,700
Department.

847
01:20:14,500 --> 01:20:19,260
This report is a follow-up to a prior City Council referral regarding special events and

848
01:20:19,260 --> 01:20:21,580
ways for the City to attract new special events.

849
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:26,780
The City sponsors a number of special events each year including the Armed Forces Day

850
01:20:26,780 --> 01:20:32,120
weekend, July 4th fireworks, the turkey trot, and heeled bay clean up among many others.

851
01:20:32,820 --> 01:20:37,620
Independent promoter special events are held in public and private locations, such

852
01:20:37,620 --> 01:20:42,300
as athletic tournaments in the parks, and the circus in the Delamo Fashion Center parking lot.

853
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:47,540
Promoter events when applied are evaluated for a number of factors before being approved,

854
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:53,920
including public safety, community impact, location capacity, and event details, such as amplified

855
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,200
sound and music, concessions, and parking.

856
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,920
In order for a promoter to realize a return on investment and renting a city location,

857
01:21:01,620 --> 01:21:05,760
it is likely that the location might need to be secured, allowing for fee-based parking

858
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,220
and or ticketed entry.

859
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:12,780
The city can help potential special event holders by organizing our location library, according

860
01:21:12,780 --> 01:21:18,340
to venue capacities, available amenities, and other site-specific requirements, as well

861
01:21:18,340 --> 01:21:22,940
as including information on supporting towards businesses, such as hotels, dining, and

862
01:21:22,940 --> 01:21:25,120
Another entertainment and hospitality related providers.

863
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:32,500
Tonight's staff is seeking direction from your honorable body to update the city's special event guidelines and plan for online and

864
01:21:32,500 --> 01:21:36,160
print materials which promote the city as a special event location option.

865
01:21:36,780 --> 01:21:40,580
That concludes my representation and Ms. Fulton and I are available for your questions.

866
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:41,060
Thank you.

867
01:21:42,580 --> 01:21:43,580
Thank you, Mr. Laura.

868
01:21:43,980 --> 01:21:45,160
Any questions from the council?

869
01:21:52,540 --> 01:21:54,140
Moving on to the public, any comments?

870
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:05,620
Hello, I'm going to cut this short because you guys got it short, so I'm maybe going to use

871
01:22:05,620 --> 01:22:07,140
only 57 seconds.

872
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:12,340
Anyway, so as I see, it's an easy $20,000 increase.

873
01:22:13,100 --> 01:22:15,160
I mean, what is that for you?

874
01:22:15,540 --> 01:22:22,380
I mean, the city is going great, you know, the money is just coming in, slingpile at the cad

875
01:22:22,380 --> 01:22:29,800
me bringing in the toe, you know, like crazy, and our airport funds, general funds and everything.

876
01:22:30,340 --> 01:22:36,600
And I don't know who wants to come here and have an event, by the way. I don't know, because

877
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:42,740
I just don't know, because if I want to have an event, you know, I go to a beach city or something,

878
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:48,480
you know, the beach, the sauna, the sauna, the sand, the paves, in the bikinis, you know. So that's where

879
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:52,940
I'm going to have an event. You know what I mean? What I'm going to have an event in

880
01:22:52,940 --> 01:22:58,280
Old Tanturans. You know, the Old BDIS come out of from the Historical Society. You know

881
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,260
what I mean? So thank

882
01:23:05,140 --> 01:23:11,340
you, sir. Any other comments from the Council? If not, how would the Council

883
01:23:11,340 --> 01:23:12,180
like to proceed?

884
01:23:19,870 --> 01:23:26,380
I will make an emotion to approve this item.

885
01:23:26,380 --> 01:23:27,400
Second.

886
01:23:52,250 --> 01:23:53,530
Thank you.

887
01:23:53,670 --> 01:23:57,190
We're now moving on to item 9E from community development.

888
01:23:57,430 --> 01:23:58,650
Is there a staff presentation?

889
01:24:06,980 --> 01:24:09,440
Evening I'm Greg Loden with community development department.

890
01:24:10,260 --> 01:24:16,700
At the council meeting of December 20th, 2022, the city council directed staff to develop

891
01:24:16,700 --> 01:24:21,100
guidelines for outdoor dining in the public right of way in the downtown area.

892
01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:26,880
The draft guidelines before you tonight have been developed in coordination with public

893
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,400
works, fire and building and safety.

894
01:24:30,140 --> 01:24:35,140
They require the processing of an administrative permit, which would allow the use of existing

895
01:24:35,140 --> 01:24:37,120
sidewalk areas for outdoor dining.

896
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:44,540
They also establish the ability for an applicant to seek approval to extend the sidewalk by removing

897
01:24:44,540 --> 01:24:49,140
a limited number of parking stalls to facilitate an outdoor dining area.

898
01:24:50,020 --> 01:25:03,360
Each application would be routed to all departments involved in project review which would allow for specific conditions to be applied if necessary based on each individual application.

899
01:25:04,380 --> 01:25:19,080
The standards include provisions for maintaining pedestrian and ADA access, limits to the size of the dining space, as well as providing requirements for the enclosure, and the maintenance of the space including the furnishings and landscaping.

900
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:32,560
proposed fees for an installation would include the ADM permit fee which is currently $1239 and an encroachment permit fee which is currently $435.

901
01:25:33,340 --> 01:25:43,260
These fees are just annually, plan check fees, and construction deposits will vary based on the valuation of an individual project.

902
01:25:43,260 --> 01:25:44,040
The

903
01:25:46,510 --> 01:25:51,830
draft guidelines also propose a licensing fee for projects that will remove parking spaces.

904
01:25:52,590 --> 01:25:58,370
The licensing fees for those areas is proposed at $2.25 per square foot.

905
01:25:58,990 --> 01:26:06,250
This would result in a maximum cost of $1200 per year, assuming the maximum 600 square feet

906
01:26:06,250 --> 01:26:08,350
of right-of-way area to be utilized.

907
01:26:09,270 --> 01:26:14,950
A supplemental was prepared which notes that staff is proposing to modify the language

908
01:26:14,950 --> 01:26:20,450
of standard number 10 to allow the public works and community development department to

909
01:26:20,450 --> 01:26:24,470
determine the appropriate setback of the railing from any adjacent parking saw.

910
01:26:25,250 --> 01:26:31,190
The supplemental also provides photos of existing outdoor dining installations in the downtown

911
01:26:31,190 --> 01:26:37,630
area as well as a list of the seven restaurants in the downtown area with existing planning

912
01:26:37,630 --> 01:26:39,490
permits and encroachment permits.

913
01:26:41,650 --> 01:26:45,070
These existing sites are considered to be grandfathered and

914
01:26:45,070 --> 01:26:51,430
would not be subject to the new licensing fee. Correspondence supporting the dining program was

915
01:26:51,430 --> 01:26:55,730
submitted by the operator of the local kitchen and is also attached to the supplemental.

916
01:26:56,870 --> 01:27:02,010
At this time staff recommends approval of the draft guidelines as amended and we are available

917
01:27:02,010 --> 01:27:03,450
for questions. Thank you.

918
01:27:05,930 --> 01:27:09,850
Thank you very much. We've got some questions from the council,

919
01:27:09,850 --> 01:27:11,250
Council Member Griffiths?

920
01:27:11,950 --> 01:27:13,010
Yes, thank you, Mayor.

921
01:27:13,530 --> 01:27:14,190
Thank you, Mr. Loden.

922
01:27:14,990 --> 01:27:20,650
I just want to be clear on Attachment A in the supplemental, the outdoor dining restaurants

923
01:27:20,650 --> 01:27:21,670
that previously approved.

924
01:27:22,650 --> 01:27:28,030
So you're saying that those that do have some sort of outdoor dining that's currently approved

925
01:27:28,690 --> 01:27:31,970
would not fall under this new program?

926
01:27:32,810 --> 01:27:33,370
Correct.

927
01:27:33,570 --> 01:27:36,130
They're considered grandfathered as they have existing for them.

928
01:27:36,130 --> 01:27:40,770
Okay, because I had some questions from businesses that were unclear if this new program

929
01:27:40,770 --> 01:27:48,170
would affect them even though they had long-term agreements to sidewalk service.

930
01:27:48,230 --> 01:27:52,030
If I may, you're on both there and Council members.

931
01:27:52,590 --> 01:27:57,850
It would not affect them as far as encroachment permit, but if they did want to start using the

932
01:27:57,850 --> 01:28:04,090
public right away of the actual parking spaces, then they would fall for that $2.25.

933
01:28:04,090 --> 01:28:05,990
So I just want to make sure that that part is clear.

934
01:28:06,250 --> 01:28:07,230
I understand, and that's clear.

935
01:28:09,310 --> 01:28:13,830
And then the other comment that I had, otherwise, I think it's a really great program.

936
01:28:14,710 --> 01:28:18,630
And, you know, it's, I don't think it's too onerous on our businesses, because they're having

937
01:28:18,630 --> 01:28:23,770
no hard enough time as it is, but I think it gives a business that really thinks it will help

938
01:28:23,770 --> 01:28:30,170
their business, the reasonable opportunity to do this, and personally, I like outdoor dining

939
01:28:30,170 --> 01:28:31,570
in the right weather.

940
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:44,890
But one of the comments that I had on the exhibit one, the list of conditions and so forth.

941
01:28:45,770 --> 01:28:50,610
The item number 22 that outdoor music shall not be allowed in the outdoor dining area.

942
01:28:51,310 --> 01:28:57,050
Would it be possible to consider that as only if they were to receive an additional permit

943
01:28:57,050 --> 01:29:00,450
throughout our music, as opposed to eliminate it completely.

944
01:29:01,970 --> 01:29:04,230
Is that an option that we could consider?

945
01:29:05,710 --> 01:29:08,490
Meaning exempt the existing restaurants?

946
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:13,690
Well, instead of saying that they can't have music, if they were to, if they wanted

947
01:29:13,690 --> 01:29:19,650
to have music, they'd have to apply for a special permit for music separately from this.

948
01:29:20,350 --> 01:29:26,090
Your Honourable Mayor, Council members, if that is the wish of the Council, we can make

949
01:29:26,090 --> 01:29:31,590
that, I would caution though because what happens is we won't be able to control the level

950
01:29:31,590 --> 01:29:37,990
of the music, and so we might have, you know, issues with that or we might have issues

951
01:29:37,990 --> 01:29:43,150
with competing if we have restaurants that are close together, competing with music that's

952
01:29:43,150 --> 01:29:48,810
being played in the outdoors. So there may be some issues that happen as a result of it,

953
01:29:49,090 --> 01:29:55,590
but in the end, with the council wishes, we can easily remove that if that's the way the

954
01:29:55,590 --> 01:29:59,930
But haven't we provided permits for people to put on music in the down?

955
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:29,900
I believe we do special events for specific events that are taking place, but it's not on an ongoing. That's correct. Okay, we do allow for. I heard it was free. It was. We do allow for honors by City Manager. We do allow for noise permits, and those do get approved at our license for import. Thank you. That would be interesting to hear what my colleagues have to say about that, but that would be my own. The other potential option is to allow for the

956
01:30:29,900 --> 01:30:35,220
possibility with a extra permit and fee, of course, to go with that.

957
01:30:36,740 --> 01:30:37,380
That's it.

958
01:30:37,860 --> 01:30:39,680
Thank you, Council Member Mertucci.

959
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,220
Thank you, Mayor Frocant.

960
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:54,920
Item 24, this is a use of propane or electrical heaters will be subject to review and approval by the party department and building safety department.

961
01:30:56,440 --> 01:31:00,320
I didn't see anything on natural gas, permit fixture.

962
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:06,740
like the built-in heaters that something see cemented into the ground, into the patio.

963
01:31:07,180 --> 01:31:08,320
Are we allowing those?

964
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:13,300
Because there are a lot cheaper to run than the propane or electric.

965
01:31:15,220 --> 01:31:21,440
Public works has not currently evaluated extending private gas pipelines into the public right away to do that.

966
01:31:21,700 --> 01:31:27,020
I don't see how we would support that but I would also defer to the fire department on any fire code restrictions that may exist.

967
01:31:31,900 --> 01:31:40,120
Yes. Council members, David Dumev, far cheap. We have to be careful of having those types of

968
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:46,260
heaters under tents, those are strictly against the fire code. So that'd be another challenge we

969
01:31:46,260 --> 01:31:52,740
have to deal with. What about like open air? But I think the question, I think the question would be do

970
01:31:52,740 --> 01:31:59,080
we run, are we able to run gas lines that are connected to a building underneath the sidewalk

971
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,500
into a patio that's what the parking lot is.

972
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:09,720
So Mayor Potem, members of the Council, Danny Santana City manages office, is it physically possible?

973
01:32:09,940 --> 01:32:11,460
Yes, it's possible.

974
01:32:11,660 --> 01:32:17,320
It's a question as to whether the city is supportive of having that kind of private infrastructure,

975
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:25,920
extending through a traversable public right away to another privately leveraged quadrant of the public space.

976
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:35,960
So that's really the what's that question and thus far we've heard comments from staff that they currently are not supportive of that concept, but it is possible.

977
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:53,880
I'd like to add one comment as well. Typically when there is a potential for excavation in the public right away, there is a request for USA Underground Services Alert, big alert type of thing, and a lot of times certain things are not marked.

978
01:32:53,880 --> 01:33:06,820
And so if that if a gas main or a gas lateral is extended from something downstream from a meter back under the sidewalk, it's possible that it would not be marked and it could be hit and that could be a potential risk.

979
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:08,880
Thank you.

980
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,640
All right. Thank you.

981
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:22,420
Council members, thank you Mayor. On condition number 15, the quality for niches, for

982
01:33:22,420 --> 01:33:27,760
niches and fixtures feel diselected. Who will decide it's their quality or not?

983
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,160
That would be reviewed by the planning staff.

984
01:33:31,540 --> 01:33:36,160
Okay, so they will approve to be consistent as well as the quality.

985
01:33:36,460 --> 01:33:36,720
Correct.

986
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:46,410
I know there are questions, if I'm reading it correctly, they can also encroach on the

987
01:33:46,410 --> 01:33:48,330
city the parking spaces.

988
01:33:49,830 --> 01:33:56,690
Correct. This program would allow operators to submit an application that would request

989
01:33:57,130 --> 01:34:03,190
up to three parking spaces to be usurped by this outdoor dining space.

990
01:34:03,190 --> 01:34:20,770
That concerns me, I think we already have issues in our downtown tourists with the parking and reducing those that is a major concern for me and I'd like to express that.

991
01:34:21,670 --> 01:34:30,500
Also, how many of the business restaurants they're really asking for this request in total dinner?

992
01:34:30,500 --> 01:34:35,920
We've heard from two that have some level of interest. One has very strong interest.

993
01:34:38,500 --> 01:34:43,880
It's only three of them out of 14,000 more plus businesses.

994
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:45,080
Am I correct?

995
01:34:46,980 --> 01:34:49,020
Well, this is focused only on the downtown.

996
01:34:49,220 --> 01:34:50,040
Only only downtown.

997
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:56,640
We've kind of communicated with those businesses that had outdoor dining permits during the pandemic.

998
01:34:56,640 --> 01:35:12,860
I would say there is maybe 10 to 12 businesses down there, and again, seven businesses already have existing permits, and then we have the two that have interest in long-term permanent solutions.

999
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:23,740
I just have concerns on this one little issue that would not support to have this on public

1000
01:35:23,740 --> 01:35:28,520
right of way if that will, that can cause an issue besides that, I'm okay with that.

1001
01:35:29,260 --> 01:35:37,320
So can I request a concurrence from my colleagues to have this without encroaching on the street?

1002
01:35:38,460 --> 01:35:43,840
I make a motion to have council member Lewis's request.

1003
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:44,240
I'm sorry.

1004
01:35:44,460 --> 01:35:44,800
I apologize.

1005
01:35:45,420 --> 01:35:45,960
Go ahead.

1006
01:35:47,300 --> 01:35:50,580
I just had a quick question that had nothing to do with the encroachment.

1007
01:35:51,180 --> 01:35:51,720
Well, maybe.

1008
01:35:52,300 --> 01:35:52,940
Hold on.

1009
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:57,740
On the one-time fees, that's listed on page six of the report.

1010
01:35:58,460 --> 01:36:03,920
Am I understanding correctly that this would be retro back to July 1st, 2022?

1011
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:06,560
Or do we mean 2023?

1012
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:15,220
The meaning is that as of July 24th, we reset our fees on July 1st of every year.

1013
01:36:15,460 --> 01:36:18,280
So currently the fee is 1239.

1014
01:36:19,180 --> 01:36:24,060
At July 1st, 2023, there would be an adjustment based on the cost of living increase.

1015
01:36:25,140 --> 01:36:31,560
Right, so we're not suggesting that we do a pro-rated amount between...

1016
01:36:32,220 --> 01:36:34,640
No, it just says when that fee was established.

1017
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:40,220
Okay, so so we don't give the the interested parties a heart attack that we're going to come back and build them a little bit later

1018
01:36:40,220 --> 01:36:41,580
So I appreciate that

1019
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:47,780
council member mtuchy

1020
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:54,340
Hey, I believe we have to hear from the public before we can do a motion, right?

1021
01:36:56,680 --> 01:37:01,160
Yeah, yeah, and I just wanted to make sure and but I would like to

1022
01:37:02,220 --> 01:37:04,960
You know express my feelings about the parking spaces.

1023
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:09,040
I

1024
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:17,560
downtown area but I do realize a necessity to revitalize and you know make

1025
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:23,620
that make make that whole area a lot more attractive and there are great restaurants

1026
01:37:23,620 --> 01:37:29,400
I don't really have a patio area in the front and the really the only way is to

1027
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:34,020
take up a couple parking space two or three parking spaces I believe there's also a

1028
01:37:34,020 --> 01:37:40,660
right or two, something when it's a first foot or foot so obviously and also

1029
01:37:40,660 --> 01:37:47,260
there's the added revenue that could degenerate but also attract people to the

1030
01:37:47,260 --> 01:37:54,020
area because it's in desperate need of revitalization and I think it's just a

1031
01:37:54,020 --> 01:38:02,040
great way to for public space to be used and I guess in a better way of course

1032
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:08,240
parking is a problem. I'd like for us to continue to seek ways of expanding parking

1033
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:15,440
in the downtown area, including possibly purchasing some of the non-historical buildings

1034
01:38:15,440 --> 01:38:23,540
and possibly putting up some more public parking spaces. But I would definitely support it

1035
01:38:23,540 --> 01:38:28,980
just the way it is. But I too, I am concerned about the parking and the lack of, but in some

1036
01:38:28,980 --> 01:38:34,180
some cases that I can think of is that there's really no other options but to take up some

1037
01:38:34,180 --> 01:38:34,840
parking space.

1038
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:40,300
So that's why I would support it because there is no time be for some restaurants that

1039
01:38:40,300 --> 01:38:40,740
are down there.

1040
01:38:40,820 --> 01:38:44,500
So to keep it fair, I would like to support it the way it is.

1041
01:38:44,780 --> 01:38:45,320
Thank you.

1042
01:38:46,420 --> 01:38:47,120
Thank you.

1043
01:38:47,300 --> 01:38:48,220
Councilmember Kaji.

1044
01:38:50,630 --> 01:38:51,070
Thank you.

1045
01:38:51,930 --> 01:38:57,330
I echo the comments raised by my colleagues when it comes to parking.

1046
01:38:57,330 --> 01:39:26,850
I think for any successful downtown revitalization and looking for example at Old Downtown Pasadena or some of the other downtowns, you've seen a significant increase in the inventory of parking, public parking and I think long-term, you know, I support this particular motion, but I think we as a council and as a city need to.

1047
01:39:26,850 --> 01:39:34,570
to take a step back and look at how we can really help to reposition downtown.

1048
01:39:35,270 --> 01:39:39,670
And unfortunately, because we're in LA and Southern California, the car is going to

1049
01:39:39,670 --> 01:39:44,330
be around, whether it's an EVA coal or hydrogen or gas-powered vehicle.

1050
01:39:44,630 --> 01:39:53,010
So I think we'll have to look at long-term planning, but three spaces right now, given the severely

1051
01:39:53,010 --> 01:39:54,990
restricted inventory of parking in downtown.

1052
01:39:57,050 --> 01:40:05,650
I feel for those retailers, those businesses, who are trying to generate more sales, but are severely restricted by the lack of parking.

1053
01:40:05,870 --> 01:40:14,670
And I believe that many who would like to visit downtown simply drive away if they can't find a place to park, so I just wanted to register that thought.

1054
01:40:15,010 --> 01:40:15,250
Thank you.

1055
01:40:17,410 --> 01:40:19,370
Thank you, Councilmember Griffiths.

1056
01:40:20,330 --> 01:40:22,890
Yes, thank you, additional comments on the parking.

1057
01:40:23,610 --> 01:40:38,210
I don't have a problem with the sporadic use of a couple of parking spaces to improve the quality and attractiveness of a restaurant, which I think will make the whole area more appealing.

1058
01:40:39,810 --> 01:40:47,990
And I think that one of the issues that has been a contributor to the problem with parking is the complete lack of enforcement of the two hour parking.

1059
01:40:47,990 --> 01:40:54,810
and I've been talking about this issue for many, many years, and I've pulled statistics from the police department.

1060
01:40:55,250 --> 01:41:02,210
And there's been literally no enforcement of the two are parking in many years I've been on the council.

1061
01:41:02,730 --> 01:41:07,970
And that was all a great deal of problem because I know many of the business owners have told me directly that their employees or

1062
01:41:07,970 --> 01:41:14,590
their other neighboring businesses employees park in those streets and there's no reason for them not to because there's no enforcement.

1063
01:41:14,950 --> 01:41:21,170
And that would take care of a lot of the problem right away if there was, and why do we put up the signs if we're not going to enforce it?

1064
01:41:21,230 --> 01:41:34,130
So that would take care of a big part of a lot of the problem, but obviously if we're going to grow the downtown and try to push for the revitalization parking is an issue still that would need to be addressed even beyond enforcement.

1065
01:41:34,370 --> 01:41:38,110
But I wanted to take the opportunity to push for enforcement of the two hour.

1066
01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:46,030
Thank you, and I was going to request that as well, so thank you for bringing that up.

1067
01:41:46,710 --> 01:41:49,810
I would be in support of this, but we do need to adjust the parking.

1068
01:41:49,950 --> 01:41:53,270
And I know thank you to Ms. Ramirez and her group.

1069
01:41:53,270 --> 01:42:04,090
We've been doing a lot of talking about some alternative ways to make the parking more usable in the downtown Torrance area.

1070
01:42:04,350 --> 01:42:10,350
So right now if there's no one else from the council, we'll go ahead to the public and see if there's any comments from the public.

1071
01:42:10,350 --> 01:42:11,190
No

1072
01:42:23,860 --> 01:42:25,300
comments? Oh, here we go.

1073
01:42:32,900 --> 01:42:37,720
James Henry, this question is related to this agenda item.

1074
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:45,380
When is the next update on the progress that the revitalization of downtown Toronto is going to take place?

1075
01:42:46,140 --> 01:42:49,820
Can anyone answer that question? It's important.

1076
01:42:52,680 --> 01:43:01,120
Mayor Proton, members of the Council, Danny Santana City Manager's Office, the revitalization plan is a large document.

1077
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:05,800
And when the Council adopted it, they adopted a multitude of implementing measures.

1078
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:13,640
In essence, this is part of the update to the revitalization plan because it's advancing one of the measures that Council asked staff to explore.

1079
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:17,140
Thank you, sir.

1080
01:43:18,020 --> 01:43:20,240
And may I ask a question, please?

1081
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,560
I believe that some things have already been started as well as it correct.

1082
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:29,580
General Mayor, Council members, I'm a showermarist, committee director, that is correct.

1083
01:43:29,580 --> 01:43:37,040
And we have ongoing things that continue on, such as string lights that will be in new

1084
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:41,620
string lights that will be installed, some planters that we're revitalizing right now.

1085
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:45,880
So there's things that we continue are doing and continue to have completed by the end

1086
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:46,500
of the fiscal year.

1087
01:43:47,540 --> 01:43:48,600
Thank you very much.

1088
01:43:48,780 --> 01:43:51,200
Is there anyone else that wants to speak on this item?

1089
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:55,820
Hi, this is Andy Porchup again.

1090
01:43:55,820 --> 01:44:02,140
this is ridiculous and redundant and we just I don't talk dirty, but you guys

1091
01:44:02,140 --> 01:44:06,960
pulled into this thing millions of millions of dollars already. If those restaurants

1092
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:11,640
cannot make up a living and they should just move in a location where people go,

1093
01:44:12,140 --> 01:44:18,980
then you set up rules here only only for the downtown area residents and that

1094
01:44:18,980 --> 01:44:24,640
was a nice thing in the pandemic when they couldn't go inside, but we can go inside

1095
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:30,160
when I come to America, I love to go inside the restaurant because it was air-conditioning

1096
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:32,860
and heating depends where I was.

1097
01:44:33,380 --> 01:44:37,880
So in Italy, they have restaurants outdoors, but you know why?

1098
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:39,560
Because it's fricking hot.

1099
01:44:40,340 --> 01:44:41,400
It's fricking hot.

1100
01:44:41,820 --> 01:44:43,920
Here in America, we have air-conditioning.

1101
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,420
And we don't have parking space.

1102
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:52,080
You want to spend 10 million dollars on parking and you're taking away parking, you're taking

1103
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:53,200
away parking.

1104
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:54,560
I think I'm going to WAH!

1105
01:44:57,380 --> 01:44:58,320
Thank you sir.

1106
01:45:04,180 --> 01:45:34,080
Okay, I don't see anyone else stepping up to speak. We'll bring it back to the council. Oh, yeah, bring back to the council. How would the council wish to proceed? From staff, prior to council proceeding, staff would like to make a suggestion on under fees, under ongoing fees for your consideration, because we know that time can pass and inflation can impact current rates. We would suggest that the council consider adding an

1107
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:35,600
annual CPI adjustment.

1108
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:43,260
As an example from land management leases at times council has imposed a

1109
01:45:43,260 --> 01:45:51,220
3% annual CPI. At other instances council has leveraged a 2% floor or a 5% cap. So those are two

1110
01:45:51,220 --> 01:45:55,600
options that you could apply similar to other city council land management conversations.

1111
01:45:58,420 --> 01:45:59,680
Councilmember Tucci.

1112
01:46:01,100 --> 01:46:02,420
Thank you, Mayor Crowell.

1113
01:46:02,480 --> 01:46:09,400
I'd like to ask if Councilman Shake would reconsider his motion to include the parking,

1114
01:46:09,820 --> 01:46:19,160
just because they would be very beneficial and also include the CPI adjustments as stated

1115
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:20,240
by Danny Santana.

1116
01:46:26,710 --> 01:46:31,310
I think we have a comment from Councilman Griffiths before we start the motion.

1117
01:46:31,310 --> 01:46:34,270
Councilmember Lewis has another request to speak.

1118
01:46:34,770 --> 01:46:35,090
Oh, okay.

1119
01:46:35,810 --> 01:46:36,390
Another question.

1120
01:46:36,670 --> 01:46:37,150
Just a clarification.

1121
01:46:37,930 --> 01:46:44,270
I just want to make sure that I am understanding this correctly, so under one time, this is

1122
01:46:44,270 --> 01:46:51,490
a one-time fee that 3% CPI on each one of these fees, or explain it to me, please.

1123
01:46:51,830 --> 01:46:53,130
Good question, Councilwoman.

1124
01:46:53,250 --> 01:46:58,630
It would be an annual CPI adjustment in effective March 2023.

1125
01:46:58,630 --> 01:47:01,430
23, you should counsel approve this concept.

1126
01:47:02,310 --> 01:47:08,510
The fee would be $2.25 per square foot per month right now, and then it would be every

1127
01:47:08,510 --> 01:47:15,070
July 1 or January 1 staff would recommend having it adjusted to an annual CPI adjustment.

1128
01:47:15,810 --> 01:47:16,110
Okay.

1129
01:47:16,230 --> 01:47:16,370
Perfect.

1130
01:47:16,610 --> 01:47:17,550
For the ongoing fees.

1131
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:18,090
Correct.

1132
01:47:18,550 --> 01:47:23,070
If counsel could specify whether they would like that to be July 1 or January 1, it would be

1133
01:47:23,070 --> 01:47:28,410
was we send advanced notices to whoever has subsequent approvals.

1134
01:47:28,530 --> 01:47:32,390
Would July 1 not align with all of our other charges?

1135
01:47:32,930 --> 01:47:34,830
Honestly, we have agreements that vary.

1136
01:47:35,690 --> 01:47:42,190
Our fees are typically set to adjust on July 1 from a permit standpoint, but from a rental

1137
01:47:42,190 --> 01:47:47,210
standpoint, they have started at different times, so they adjust at different times.

1138
01:47:47,470 --> 01:47:47,650
Okay.

1139
01:47:47,830 --> 01:47:50,810
So the 3% would be on the 225 per square foot.

1140
01:47:51,050 --> 01:47:51,650
That's correct, ma'am.

1141
01:47:51,650 --> 01:47:57,330
had just been co-fully July 1st and that would align properly.

1142
01:47:57,630 --> 01:47:58,170
Okay, thank you.

1143
01:48:00,300 --> 01:48:01,880
Council member Griffiths.

1144
01:48:02,300 --> 01:48:02,720
Thank you.

1145
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,280
And that same issue on the CPI.

1146
01:48:06,540 --> 01:48:08,900
Our business license normally collected in January.

1147
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:14,420
Because it says that the fee that ongoing fee

1148
01:48:14,420 --> 01:48:16,900
would be collected with the city business license.

1149
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:20,020
So wouldn't it make sense then to make that January 1?

1150
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:22,180
Am I thinking?

1151
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:29,020
Councilmember Kaji.

1152
01:48:30,340 --> 01:48:31,040
Thank you, Your Honor.

1153
01:48:32,580 --> 01:48:36,040
Could Councilman Shake restate the motion?

1154
01:48:36,660 --> 01:48:36,760
Sure.

1155
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:37,140
Thank you.

1156
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:38,640
Thank you.

1157
01:48:38,780 --> 01:48:42,960
Councilman Matucci and Kaji are along me the update.

1158
01:48:43,580 --> 01:48:49,420
So I'd like to consider this draft guidelines for an outdoor dining program within the public

1159
01:48:49,420 --> 01:48:55,220
right of way in downtown Torrance with the exception of encroachment on the public streets.

1160
01:48:55,220 --> 01:49:05,660
And with the adjustment of the annual adjustment CPI based on 2% to the cap of 5% starting from January.

1161
01:49:07,220 --> 01:49:12,500
So I'm a bit confused. I'm going to ask for some clarification from Ms. Ramirez.

1162
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:17,120
If I may real quick, your Honorable Mayor, Councilmembers, Michelle Ramirez, Community Development Director.

1163
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:22,580
The reason this was actually put in place was for the...

1164
01:49:22,580 --> 01:49:25,800
to have it in the public right away within the street.

1165
01:49:26,460 --> 01:49:28,220
If you're going to exclude that,

1166
01:49:28,460 --> 01:49:30,080
then you no longer actually need this.

1167
01:49:30,660 --> 01:49:32,920
Because the encroachment permit that we already allow

1168
01:49:33,740 --> 01:49:35,860
our businesses to apply for,

1169
01:49:36,020 --> 01:49:38,740
they can continue to do so without having this.

1170
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:43,780
And all these different conditions already apply to that.

1171
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,200
So the only reason this is coming forward

1172
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:49,580
is to have the ability to be able to actually use

1173
01:49:49,580 --> 01:49:51,660
the parking spaces.

1174
01:49:51,660 --> 01:49:51,900
That's

1175
01:49:55,770 --> 01:50:02,190
there if I slow in that case, I make a motion to not concur with staff.

1176
01:50:02,790 --> 01:50:03,330
Sorry.

1177
01:50:05,910 --> 01:50:08,130
Okay, is there a second to not concur?

1178
01:50:15,460 --> 01:50:17,460
That motion dies due to a lack of second.

1179
01:50:19,660 --> 01:50:20,020
Okay.

1180
01:50:20,420 --> 01:50:24,460
Do we have another motion on how the council wishes to proceed?

1181
01:50:29,070 --> 01:50:29,270
Yes.

1182
01:50:29,430 --> 01:50:36,790
I move that we adopted the resolution and stated with the CPI increases.

1183
01:50:36,790 --> 01:50:40,750
is stating what January 1st was that January 1st,

1184
01:50:43,140 --> 01:50:45,100
and also taking it into consideration

1185
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:55,360
the shortage of parking and always seek to expand that troubling issue like that.

1186
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:56,100
I'm sorry.

1187
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:57,400
Go ahead.

1188
01:50:57,840 --> 01:50:59,400
3% CPI increase?

1189
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:00,040
Oh, yeah.

1190
01:51:00,220 --> 01:51:02,160
3% CPI increase.

1191
01:51:02,380 --> 01:51:03,980
I'm sorry.

1192
01:51:05,940 --> 01:51:08,100
What was the parking portion of it that you put at the end?

1193
01:51:08,100 --> 01:51:13,660
We didn't address the parking portion, it's as stated in the item.

1194
01:51:16,480 --> 01:51:17,000
I second.

1195
01:51:21,790 --> 01:51:29,870
Can I suggest some clarification to possibly add if possible enforcement of the parking

1196
01:51:29,870 --> 01:51:30,350
as well?

1197
01:51:30,530 --> 01:51:30,890
Absolutely.

1198
01:51:31,090 --> 01:51:35,190
You don't have to add that provision.

1199
01:51:35,850 --> 01:51:40,170
We are working, we're exploring, bringing in some additional support.

1200
01:51:40,170 --> 01:51:47,350
We've had spruggles with our staffing, as you all know, but we are working with the

1201
01:51:47,350 --> 01:51:51,870
Community Development Director and the police chief to bring in additional parking enforcement

1202
01:51:51,870 --> 01:51:56,190
offices, not only for downtown, but also for streets with being enforcement as well.

1203
01:51:57,090 --> 01:51:57,650
Okay.

1204
01:51:57,870 --> 01:51:58,950
Thank you very much.

1205
01:51:59,010 --> 01:52:00,050
I've heard you loud and clear.

1206
01:52:00,430 --> 01:52:00,610
Okay.

1207
01:52:00,950 --> 01:52:09,930
So we've got a motion in a second to approve the item with a CPA of 3% effective going

1208
01:52:09,930 --> 01:52:13,130
into the facts on January 1. That's how I understand it.

1209
01:52:13,270 --> 01:52:18,310
And adopt the resolution. And we need adopt the resolution and we need a number in title please.

1210
01:52:19,630 --> 01:52:24,770
Your Honor, this is resolution number 2023-20. A resolution of the City Council of the City of

1211
01:52:24,770 --> 01:52:30,430
Torrent, California establishing outdoor dining guidelines for the use of the public right of way.

1212
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:40,600
Do you want me to repeat that or adopt the resolution 2023-20 with the amendments to the

1213
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:42,980
with the 3% annual CPI.

1214
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:45,020
Hi, second.

1215
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:46,820
Start voting, please.

1216
01:52:51,390 --> 01:52:52,570
Your Honor, that motion carries.

1217
01:52:52,770 --> 01:52:54,230
The council member, shake voting no.

1218
01:52:54,950 --> 01:52:55,810
And Mayor Chen, FM.

1219
01:53:01,910 --> 01:53:04,250
Okay, we're now moving on to item 9F

1220
01:53:04,250 --> 01:53:05,590
from Community Development.

1221
01:53:05,810 --> 01:53:07,670
Is there a staff presentation, please?

1222
01:53:13,380 --> 01:53:15,640
Good evening, Honorable Mayor and Member of the City Council.

1223
01:53:16,460 --> 01:53:18,980
My name is Yukon Kio, also known as Kio.

1224
01:53:19,380 --> 01:53:21,280
Plan Examiner for Community Development Department.

1225
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:23,900
In addition to City staff,

1226
01:53:23,900 --> 01:53:29,100
I have it meet tonight, our consultant, Daniel Sopeda from Think & Coop Engineers.

1227
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,100
Daniel is a principal for Think & Coop.

1228
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:36,560
He assists many jurisdictions with their local seismic retrofit ordinance.

1229
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:44,520
Item 9F, recommendation of the community development director, that the City Council adopt

1230
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:50,140
an ordinance adopting a seismic retrofit program and approve an ordinance summary for publication.

1231
01:53:51,460 --> 01:53:57,120
The probability of a major earthquake in the city of Torrent is high due to the proximity

1232
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,340
to a quick fault within the regions.

1233
01:54:00,140 --> 01:54:07,560
Proactive measures taken today will reduce the risk of life safety associated to future

1234
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:13,980
earthquake incidents, therefore developing a seismic retrofit ordinance to begin to secure

1235
01:54:13,980 --> 01:54:21,520
this at-risk building is advisable to reduce the loss of life, injury and substantial property damage.

1236
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:23,220
Next slide.

1237
01:54:25,900 --> 01:54:31,720
On May 15, 2018, an informational item was taken before the City Council to seek

1238
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:37,940
direction on the creation of a seismic retrofit ordinance. The focus of the retrofit ordinance would

1239
01:54:37,940 --> 01:54:44,180
be existing buildings with structural systems which have been identified as posing a high risk

1240
01:54:44,180 --> 01:54:47,320
due to structural failure during a seismic event.

1241
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:50,920
As a result of that informational item,

1242
01:54:51,540 --> 01:54:53,580
and other that were presented after,

1243
01:54:54,060 --> 01:54:56,380
the City Council provide direction to staff

1244
01:54:56,380 --> 01:54:59,920
to proceed in creating a seismic retrofit ordinance.

1245
01:55:00,700 --> 01:55:04,040
Council also direct staff to gather additional information

1246
01:55:04,250 --> 01:55:07,360
and complete certain tasks prior to return

1247
01:55:07,790 --> 01:55:10,940
with the seismic retrofit ordinance for their consideration.

1248
01:55:10,940 --> 01:55:17,980
Those tasks include complete a survey of all at-risk buildings, engage in public outreach,

1249
01:55:18,900 --> 01:55:26,520
create a seismic retrofit ordinance, information on possible approaches to implement the retrofit

1250
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:40,280
ordinance. On February 9, 2021, a consultant service agreement was rewarded to dengue

1251
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:46,360
September 2022 survey of all address building were completed.

1252
01:55:47,500 --> 01:55:53,760
November 2022 public outreach work completed, three virtual and three in-person.

1253
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:59,540
March 2023 ordinance and program implementation were completed.

1254
01:56:00,660 --> 01:56:04,960
From here, I will hand it over to Daniel to explain each building type in detail.

1255
01:56:09,350 --> 01:56:09,870
Thank you, Kiel.

1256
01:56:10,870 --> 01:56:11,810
Thanks for having me.

1257
01:56:13,590 --> 01:56:14,670
Next slide please.

1258
01:56:16,190 --> 01:56:22,510
So I'm going to be explaining four major vulnerable building types that exist in the city.

1259
01:56:23,290 --> 01:56:28,410
The first one being what we call south-week or open front wall buildings.

1260
01:56:29,050 --> 01:56:35,250
The second one being rigid wall with flexible diaphragm buildings, non-doctor concrete buildings

1261
01:56:35,670 --> 01:56:38,450
and then the last one being pre-northridge steel moment frame buildings.

1262
01:56:38,910 --> 01:56:43,130
They seem like long names, but I'll promise you, I'll educate you in a little bit.

1263
01:56:43,850 --> 01:56:44,230
Next slide.

1264
01:56:45,090 --> 01:56:46,370
The first one is soft story buildings.

1265
01:56:46,850 --> 01:56:49,210
Soft story buildings happen when you have a building.

1266
01:56:49,630 --> 01:56:53,790
The ones that we're considering for this ordinance are wood soft story buildings.

1267
01:56:54,010 --> 01:56:59,230
They're primarily multi-family buildings that are rigid at the top.

1268
01:56:59,670 --> 01:57:03,330
They have a lot of water at the top, but when you come down to the first floor because of

1269
01:57:03,330 --> 01:57:07,310
the tuck under park, they actually have a weakness at their first level.

1270
01:57:07,310 --> 01:57:10,190
during an earthquake, they tend to break at the bottom.

1271
01:57:10,450 --> 01:57:12,370
It's like somebody hitting them at the knees

1272
01:57:12,370 --> 01:57:13,830
and then the building just comes down.

1273
01:57:14,330 --> 01:57:16,330
We have observed these types of buildings have failed

1274
01:57:16,330 --> 01:57:18,110
and many passed the earthquakes.

1275
01:57:19,210 --> 01:57:22,990
One of the most common ways of retrofitting these types of buildings

1276
01:57:22,990 --> 01:57:27,310
is by addressing that visual open line

1277
01:57:27,310 --> 01:57:29,130
that exists in these types of buildings.

1278
01:57:29,470 --> 01:57:31,950
We can either add some structural steel

1279
01:57:31,950 --> 01:57:35,170
or we can add some wood walls

1280
01:57:35,170 --> 01:57:51,050
to make up for the lack of strength that happens at that floor level, depending on obviously the characteristics of the building and the usage of the building and make sure that we account for lots of parking or lots of other types of services that happen at that first level.

1281
01:57:51,790 --> 01:58:00,210
Next slide. The city hired our firm to conduct a survey to see how many of these potential buildings happen in the city.

1282
01:58:01,130 --> 01:58:09,850
Overall, we did survey over 2,000 of these buildings, however, and conversations with staff

1283
01:58:09,850 --> 01:58:15,290
and other technical committees for Southern California Engineering Association.

1284
01:58:16,450 --> 01:58:24,150
It was determined that perhaps we should draw the line at a certain step that will only give

1285
01:58:24,150 --> 01:58:29,830
us 980 potential buildings that would be in the scope of the proposed ordinance.

1286
01:58:29,830 --> 01:58:36,590
If you go to the next slide, the proposed ordinance basically states that buildings that

1287
01:58:36,590 --> 01:58:44,690
were built prior to 1976 should be part of this ordinance in 76 is where the code had

1288
01:58:44,690 --> 01:58:49,370
a significant change in how these buildings were addressed in terms of their strength

1289
01:58:49,370 --> 01:58:50,390
and their vulnerability.

1290
01:58:51,130 --> 01:58:53,830
So that's where the drawn is currently drawn.

1291
01:58:53,830 --> 01:59:02,770
And we also, the staff also suggested that we target the bigger, more critical buildings,

1292
01:59:02,950 --> 01:59:08,210
the riskier buildings, the heavier buildings, and omit those three buildings that have only

1293
01:59:08,210 --> 01:59:09,090
three units or less.

1294
01:59:09,570 --> 01:59:16,250
And then finally, we would be targeting really just that exposed, open line that you often

1295
01:59:16,250 --> 01:59:18,910
see on buildings that have this tuck under parking.

1296
01:59:19,590 --> 01:59:20,470
Next slide.

1297
01:59:21,750 --> 01:59:25,330
The software ordinance would be,

1298
01:59:27,950 --> 01:59:32,150
this targeting these buildings would have orders that would

1299
01:59:32,150 --> 01:59:34,530
be sent to the owners of these buildings.

1300
01:59:35,130 --> 01:59:43,190
The orders would be sent out in three different priorities in order for the city staff to

1301
01:59:43,190 --> 01:59:49,990
manage the amount of work that is happening and also to provide some of the riskier buildings

1302
01:59:49,990 --> 01:59:55,750
to come in forward on the first priority and the less risk your bill is towards the end.

1303
01:59:56,350 --> 01:59:58,910
Overall, you would have three major priorities.

1304
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:16,380
The overall timeline that's being proposed by the city staff is a five-year plan with multiple milestones in between. The milestones are intended to make sure that the owners may progress throughout the five years of the actual program. Next slide.

1305
02:00:18,660 --> 02:00:31,520
None that the concrete buildings are buildings that are made of concrete. These are buildings that are older in nature that were built in times where we didn't have a really good understanding

1306
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:37,560
understanding of how concrete buildings behave, they lack reinforcement in their elements.

1307
02:00:38,140 --> 02:00:43,140
If you see the sketches in the middle of the presentation, you will see that the columns

1308
02:00:43,140 --> 02:00:48,060
on the column on the left shows not as much reinforcement as the column on the right.

1309
02:00:48,440 --> 02:00:52,840
Really what happens is that during an earthquake when the building wants to move, those concrete

1310
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:58,460
elements break apart and they want to escape from this cage that is being formed by the reinforcement.

1311
02:00:58,460 --> 02:01:06,260
So the new codes really have additional reinforcement in these elements to add some of this

1312
02:01:06,260 --> 02:01:06,940
ductility.

1313
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:14,200
Common ways of retrofitting these buildings are by adding fiber wrap or adding some more

1314
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:18,160
strength by either adding concrete or some additional elements in the building.

1315
02:01:18,360 --> 02:01:23,540
They create that additional stiffness so that that building doesn't have that movement that

1316
02:01:23,540 --> 02:01:24,580
is going to tear it apart.

1317
02:01:24,580 --> 02:01:27,180
If you go to the next slide,

1318
02:01:29,870 --> 02:01:32,630
pre-northridge steel moment frames are a second building.

1319
02:01:33,010 --> 02:01:39,970
I love both of these buildings and the same grouping only because it's difficult to tell

1320
02:01:39,970 --> 02:01:42,170
one from the other by just visually looking at it.

1321
02:01:42,850 --> 02:01:45,410
You may have a concrete building, you may have a steel building.

1322
02:01:45,770 --> 02:01:49,070
The other building type that we're targeting is these pre-northridge steel moment frames.

1323
02:01:49,750 --> 02:01:56,010
These buildings were identified after the 1994 earthquake that we had in Northridge.

1324
02:01:56,010 --> 02:02:01,910
There are steel buildings that we used to believe that they were very, very strong and very

1325
02:02:01,910 --> 02:02:08,050
ductile, meaning that they can move a lot without having any damage, but 1994 taught us something

1326
02:02:08,050 --> 02:02:14,170
different. Unfortunately, the connections of these buildings tend to break, and that's very similar

1327
02:02:14,170 --> 02:02:22,190
to you breaking your bone when you're playing a sport or having an accident. From the outside, you may

1328
02:02:22,190 --> 02:02:26,210
not notice that you have something broken inside, but in reality what happens is that the

1329
02:02:26,210 --> 02:02:31,610
bones in the structure are broken. And that's one of the problems that were with these buildings.

1330
02:02:32,170 --> 02:02:37,270
In order to fix the buildings, we can target the actual deficiency, which means we can go in and

1331
02:02:37,270 --> 02:02:43,130
surgically look at these connections and fix them, or we can add additional stiffness to our

1332
02:02:43,130 --> 02:02:48,150
very similar to the concrete buildings, meaning that we add additional braces, walls, or something

1333
02:02:48,150 --> 02:02:53,930
know the sort to really prevent that movement in the building and prevent that bone from

1334
02:02:53,930 --> 02:02:58,790
breaking in the structure. Or another technique that's often used is what we call adding

1335
02:02:58,790 --> 02:03:04,310
pistons, which is very similar to your cars where you're adding shocks to the building.

1336
02:03:05,210 --> 02:03:12,050
If you go to the next slide. So overall, like I said before, it's difficult to tell during

1337
02:03:12,050 --> 02:03:14,270
in a survey, what kind of building you have?

1338
02:03:14,910 --> 02:03:17,390
Our survey was done from the right away

1339
02:03:17,970 --> 02:03:20,610
and with some limited research of the drawings

1340
02:03:20,610 --> 02:03:21,810
that the city does have.

1341
02:03:22,550 --> 02:03:27,430
And we found that approximately 245 buildings

1342
02:03:27,890 --> 02:03:32,310
of the set of buildings that we surveyed

1343
02:03:32,310 --> 02:03:34,710
would be affected by the proposed ordinance.

1344
02:03:35,570 --> 02:03:36,590
If you go to the next slide,

1345
02:03:37,130 --> 02:03:39,850
the proposed ordinance for non-doctor concrete buildings

1346
02:03:39,850 --> 02:03:46,550
will target buildings that were built prior to the 1979 uniform building code which was adopted

1347
02:03:46,550 --> 02:03:52,530
by the city in 1981. And the reason for that is because during that time is really when the

1348
02:03:52,530 --> 02:04:00,010
code started to change and asking for that additional reinforcement and those buildings. Things that

1349
02:04:00,010 --> 02:04:07,630
would not be part of the ordinance are one story concrete buildings. We feel that those buildings

1350
02:04:07,630 --> 02:04:15,330
are fairly rigid and fairly stout unless they possess really slender columns and that's written

1351
02:04:15,330 --> 02:04:25,590
in the ordinance. Or we would also, we would target in many cases some, there are buildings

1352
02:04:25,590 --> 02:04:31,370
that are wood over concrete podiums, but those concrete podiums would only be targeted if they

1353
02:04:31,370 --> 02:04:36,890
really possess certain types of deficiencies within them and that's all outlined within the ordinance

1354
02:04:36,890 --> 02:04:42,210
itself to make sure that we don't overdo the amount of work that we have to do to those buildings.

1355
02:04:42,930 --> 02:04:49,510
So it's a really targeted deficiency. On the next slide, we have pre-northrist steel moment frames.

1356
02:04:51,550 --> 02:04:56,530
These are the steel moment frames that were discovered after Northridge, like I mentioned before.

1357
02:04:57,610 --> 02:05:03,710
And for that reason, we would target buildings that were built prior to the 1997 UBC.

1358
02:05:04,790 --> 02:05:10,890
and we would exclude moment frames that were used in prior retrofit ordinances

1359
02:05:11,930 --> 02:05:16,350
and a prior retrofit ordinance that targeted brick buildings.

1360
02:05:17,010 --> 02:05:21,050
These brick buildings were already retrofitted by many cities including torrents

1361
02:05:21,050 --> 02:05:24,870
back in the 80s and some of them did use these moment frames,

1362
02:05:25,110 --> 02:05:28,270
so we obviously don't want to target those moment frames.

1363
02:05:28,630 --> 02:05:30,610
Those perform well in 1994.

1364
02:05:31,710 --> 02:05:32,570
Next slide.

1365
02:05:35,030 --> 02:05:38,970
Both the non-doctor concrete ordinance and the pre-northres steel moment frame have a much

1366
02:05:38,970 --> 02:05:44,390
longer time frame that is being asked for, that has been proposed, I should ask, I should

1367
02:05:44,390 --> 02:05:44,610
say.

1368
02:05:45,170 --> 02:05:54,590
It is an overall 20 year milestone and primarily to allow owners to gather the funds to make

1369
02:05:54,590 --> 02:05:55,290
these retrofits.

1370
02:05:55,470 --> 02:05:59,750
These retrofits are much larger in nature, they're bigger, they're more expensive.

1371
02:06:00,590 --> 02:06:14,210
There's also consideration to owners that use these buildings for commercial purposes and they need the time to really work out the leases of the spaces to make sure that they can work it out within the 20 years span.

1372
02:06:15,450 --> 02:06:27,670
Also the timeline begins from the time that the owner receives the order and as mentioned in the slide there will also be three priorities to make sure that the orders are sent out

1373
02:06:27,670 --> 02:06:33,870
and in order of the riskier buildings go first and so on and so forth.

1374
02:06:35,290 --> 02:06:36,110
Next slide.

1375
02:06:37,350 --> 02:06:40,830
Finally, the city wanted to understand their tilt up buildings.

1376
02:06:41,030 --> 02:06:46,090
Tilt up buildings are these buildings that you often see in manufacturing facilities.

1377
02:06:46,770 --> 02:06:50,810
They are these big tall concrete buildings that originally were built.

1378
02:06:51,430 --> 02:06:54,710
These walls were built on the floor and then they tilt them up.

1379
02:06:54,710 --> 02:06:59,890
up, and then when they tie them to the actual roof, what happens is that what we've seen

1380
02:06:59,890 --> 02:07:04,970
in past earthquakes, unfortunately, is that that connection between the roof and the wall

1381
02:07:05,610 --> 02:07:11,430
is not strong enough and it tends to break apart when the wall breaks from its roof, then

1382
02:07:11,430 --> 02:07:14,230
the roof falls down, and then the wall collapses on top of it.

1383
02:07:14,530 --> 02:07:16,210
So it's a very, very dangerous situation.

1384
02:07:17,370 --> 02:07:21,730
The only fortunate thing about these buildings is that the overall building actually behaves

1385
02:07:21,730 --> 02:07:23,470
pretty well with exception to that connection.

1386
02:07:23,470 --> 02:07:28,190
So, that connection is typically what is targeted in an ordinance.

1387
02:07:28,950 --> 02:07:29,830
If you go to the next slide.

1388
02:07:32,130 --> 02:07:42,330
After a lot of discussion with staff and also with our engineering partners at the engineering

1389
02:07:42,330 --> 02:07:48,950
association assembly California, it was decided that perhaps the scope could also include other

1390
02:07:48,950 --> 02:07:54,510
building types that have similar weight in nature, which are both concrete, which are

1391
02:07:54,510 --> 02:08:02,810
masonry as well. If you consider those buildings, you would be at least about 500 buildings

1392
02:08:02,810 --> 02:08:07,410
that would be targeted in the ordinance. If you go to the next slide, you would see that

1393
02:08:07,410 --> 02:08:13,510
the scope of the ordinance would be really target buildings that were built prior to 1997.

1394
02:08:14,390 --> 02:08:42,290
And that's because after the 1994 Northridge earthquake is when the codes really changed to address that condition of the connection between the walls and the roof and the reason that we changed the name to now be called rigid wall flexible diaphragm is because we not only want to target those tilt up buildings, but we also want to target buildings that are made of masonry which behave in a very very similar way as a classical tilt up building.

1395
02:08:43,570 --> 02:08:49,890
Then, if you go to the next slide, you will see the proposed timeline is very similar

1396
02:08:49,890 --> 02:08:56,690
to the Substory Ordnance, which is a five-year plan, and also has a multiple milestones

1397
02:08:57,210 --> 02:09:01,530
to get to the end, and there's also three priorities.

1398
02:09:02,090 --> 02:09:08,930
The priorities in this case are based on square foot area, and again, the bigger ones coming

1399
02:09:08,930 --> 02:09:09,350
in first.

1400
02:09:10,710 --> 02:09:18,110
If you go to the next slide, oftentimes we hear, you know, what's the cost of these buildings?

1401
02:09:19,050 --> 02:09:30,310
Very difficult to answer that question, especially because there hasn't been a lot of buildings that have been seismically retrofitted under these types of ordinances,

1402
02:09:30,590 --> 02:09:33,210
with exception of the soft-story ordinances.

1403
02:09:33,210 --> 02:09:37,450
This particular slide actually addresses the soft story ordinance cost.

1404
02:09:38,070 --> 02:09:43,250
These are buildings that have actually been already permitted by the city of torrents

1405
02:09:43,250 --> 02:09:51,470
under a voluntary basis using an ordinance from the city of Los Angeles that is very similar in nature

1406
02:09:51,470 --> 02:09:53,730
to the one that's being proposed for the city of torrents.

1407
02:09:54,130 --> 02:09:59,430
And you can see here the cost, the overall cost of the actual projects

1408
02:09:59,430 --> 02:10:13,650
And then the cost broken down by units, oftentimes we hear that that's what owners want to understand the cost per unit because that drives them to understand how much is their financial exposure on their buildings.

1409
02:10:14,050 --> 02:10:25,450
So you can see there on the right side of the table that the cost per unit goes anywhere from 2 to 11,000 with an average of about $5,000 per unit.

1410
02:10:26,750 --> 02:10:27,790
Next slide, please.

1411
02:10:29,130 --> 02:10:35,730
And then, finally, before I hand it out to Keo, we also often hear questions about

1412
02:10:36,450 --> 02:10:40,550
any financial support or incentive that the city can do.

1413
02:10:41,330 --> 02:10:43,930
We broke this down into three primary categories.

1414
02:10:44,550 --> 02:10:49,770
There's other things that can be considered, but these are the three that are often considered

1415
02:10:50,530 --> 02:10:51,130
by cities.

1416
02:10:51,130 --> 02:11:00,090
One is FEMA grants. FEMA grants is often, it's money that's provided to cities after a natural disaster.

1417
02:11:01,010 --> 02:11:08,550
The way that these grants work is they typically happen once a year and the ones that have been used for,

1418
02:11:09,910 --> 02:11:20,090
to address natural disasters are primarily targeting disasters that are triggered by fire.

1419
02:11:20,090 --> 02:11:26,110
We've had a lot of fires in our past few years, and because of those fires, the federal

1420
02:11:26,110 --> 02:11:30,090
government provides money to the state to get to cities.

1421
02:11:30,710 --> 02:11:36,090
Now that said, those funds could be used for any natural disaster, including seismic

1422
02:11:36,890 --> 02:11:44,610
upgrades, but the only caveat is that if the city wanted to apply for a grant, they must

1423
02:11:44,610 --> 02:11:50,250
have an active program that they can submit their application under.

1424
02:11:50,850 --> 02:11:55,890
So the first step to apply into any grant is to actually have a project or a program

1425
02:11:55,890 --> 02:11:56,750
in your case.

1426
02:11:58,070 --> 02:12:02,150
Second is another program that's often discussed is pace programs.

1427
02:12:02,330 --> 02:12:07,850
Pace programs were born for energy savings.

1428
02:12:08,470 --> 02:12:14,490
These pace programs were initially intended to help homeowners with solar panels,

1429
02:12:14,490 --> 02:12:19,110
changing their windows and things of that nature.

1430
02:12:19,710 --> 02:12:23,170
It requires that the city create a financial district

1431
02:12:23,170 --> 02:12:26,710
and basically what happens is that the owner is able to get a loan

1432
02:12:26,710 --> 02:12:30,190
but the way they repay the loan, it comes in through their taxes.

1433
02:12:31,190 --> 02:12:34,850
It's a line item on their end of the year taxes.

1434
02:12:36,310 --> 02:12:39,570
Oftentimes this is not a very attractive solution

1435
02:12:39,570 --> 02:12:41,030
for these types of programs.

1436
02:12:41,030 --> 02:12:48,690
is somewhat cumbersome and it's unclear as to how it's not as very easy for homeowners

1437
02:12:48,690 --> 02:12:53,870
to apply for these when it comes to seismic programs because they were initially intended

1438
02:12:53,870 --> 02:12:55,150
for energies.

1439
02:12:56,890 --> 02:13:03,690
And then finally the other thing, the thing that is often asked is can the city consider

1440
02:13:03,690 --> 02:13:08,110
that are waiving fees for the actual review

1441
02:13:08,110 --> 02:13:10,710
and the plan check of these retrofits.

1442
02:13:12,570 --> 02:13:15,410
That is often discussed in cities,

1443
02:13:16,310 --> 02:13:20,010
not many, I can't think of one that's actually doing that.

1444
02:13:20,170 --> 02:13:22,670
It could be costly.

1445
02:13:23,650 --> 02:13:27,930
Staff estimated that if they waive all the permit fees

1446
02:13:28,610 --> 02:13:31,290
for all the potential buildings that are out there,

1447
02:13:31,290 --> 02:13:37,730
It would be over a eight and a half million dollars worth of funds that the city would be funding for the program

1448
02:13:37,730 --> 02:13:42,270
So with that I'm going to pass it on to Kio so he can close us off

1449
02:13:42,270 --> 02:13:43,230
Should

1450
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:53,640
the program approve tonight

1451
02:13:54,940 --> 02:13:56,260
Staff would need additional

1452
02:13:56,980 --> 02:14:02,620
We'll need additional staff or consultant to assist with plan and technical report review

1453
02:14:03,660 --> 02:14:06,280
Consultant to assist in complex building analysis

1454
02:14:08,020 --> 02:14:12,400
This concludes the presentation, community development staff, and our consultant are available

1455
02:14:12,400 --> 02:14:12,860
for question.

1456
02:14:14,600 --> 02:14:15,900
Thank you very much.

1457
02:14:16,080 --> 02:14:20,080
I'm going to give Council Member Matucci an opportunity to speak, please.

1458
02:14:20,980 --> 02:14:21,880
Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.

1459
02:14:22,700 --> 02:14:28,720
Before we start discussion, because of the potential conflict of interest, or even the perception

1460
02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:32,180
of a conflict of interest, I'm going to have to recuse myself from further discussion on

1461
02:14:32,180 --> 02:14:32,480
the site.

1462
02:14:34,840 --> 02:14:35,360
Thank you, sir.

1463
02:14:48,140 --> 02:14:48,900
Councilmember Griffiths.

1464
02:14:49,820 --> 02:14:50,420
Thank you, Mayor.

1465
02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:53,560
And I appreciate all the hard work that's gone into doing this.

1466
02:14:53,620 --> 02:14:54,700
This has been a long time coming.

1467
02:14:55,180 --> 02:14:59,740
I remember when we discussed this back in 2018 and I think that there was

1468
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:29,720
News, yes, support to move this forward. And the timing is really good considering the disaster that's happened around the world with earthquakes. And we certainly don't want to do it. We can't prevent that kind of destruction in our community should win that an earthquake happens here. I do have several questions. One of the last things it was just mentioned was the additional staff and our consultant. Is there a request for budget on this for doing that? Because I don't see that in the

1469
02:15:29,720 --> 02:15:30,140
recommendation.

1470
02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:31,660
Your Honourable Mayor, Council members,

1471
02:15:31,820 --> 02:15:33,140
Ms. Shaw, may I ask if we don't, Director?

1472
02:15:33,520 --> 02:15:34,880
No, I think we're just making you aware

1473
02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:37,400
that we, in the next budget,

1474
02:15:37,580 --> 02:15:39,060
we will be putting some funds in there

1475
02:15:39,060 --> 02:15:40,480
to help continue this program.

1476
02:15:42,400 --> 02:15:44,280
I can understand why that would be necessary

1477
02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:47,400
for the amount of work that would be required to do all this.

1478
02:15:48,080 --> 02:15:49,580
It's a lot of work that needs to be done.

1479
02:15:52,530 --> 02:15:53,430
A couple of other questions.

1480
02:15:54,170 --> 02:15:56,970
One of my big concerns, anytime we talk about passing

1481
02:15:56,970 --> 02:16:00,130
in ordinances, how do we enforce the ordinance?

1482
02:16:00,130 --> 02:16:05,830
should people fail to follow the direction that we've given in the ordinance, can someone

1483
02:16:05,830 --> 02:16:11,950
elaborate for me on what our enforcement mechanisms are and how we ensure that this actually

1484
02:16:11,950 --> 02:16:12,270
happens?

1485
02:16:12,990 --> 02:16:19,030
Councilman, should the owner be not complied with the required timeline, there is a violation

1486
02:16:19,030 --> 02:16:25,910
portion built into the ordinance, and one of them would be administrative citation and

1487
02:16:25,910 --> 02:16:27,850
also recordation in the properties.

1488
02:16:28,830 --> 02:16:30,110
What does that mean exactly?

1489
02:16:31,250 --> 02:16:36,130
We would record the notice in the property, so should somebody purchase the property,

1490
02:16:36,270 --> 02:16:40,390
they will see that the property required to be retrofitted.

1491
02:16:41,490 --> 02:16:49,770
Okay, so the fee that you propose in the ordinance is a very minor fee, and if I wanted to get

1492
02:16:49,770 --> 02:16:58,130
out of spending $50,000 to improve my property, I'd just say, well, find me $1,000 and I'll

1493
02:16:58,130 --> 02:16:58,730
I'll move on.

1494
02:16:59,330 --> 02:16:59,830
How do we?

1495
02:17:01,050 --> 02:17:06,310
I think with the recordation is actually putting the property and notice and some sort of like

1496
02:17:06,310 --> 02:17:06,830
a red flag.

1497
02:17:07,210 --> 02:17:12,310
So when owner or potential owner come to buy property, they will see that the property

1498
02:17:12,310 --> 02:17:13,690
needs some richer fit.

1499
02:17:14,310 --> 02:17:18,010
And also, I think it will make impact to their insurance as well.

1500
02:17:19,450 --> 02:17:23,750
Chair, Commissioner, I mean, your Honourable Mayor, Council members of the Charmere's Committee

1501
02:17:23,750 --> 02:17:29,250
is the balance director to kind of go on to elaborate a little bit further.

1502
02:17:29,570 --> 02:17:34,390
So if the code enforcement, they will they will be working closely with our code enforcement

1503
02:17:34,390 --> 02:17:40,590
officers and going out there to do inspections to see if they are doing what they're supposed

1504
02:17:40,590 --> 02:17:43,910
to be doing if they're not, then we would start the process of the administrative citation.

1505
02:17:44,530 --> 02:17:47,990
If we get to the point where the administrative citation isn't working, then we can almost

1506
02:17:48,490 --> 02:17:51,510
record with similar to a lien against the property.

1507
02:17:52,410 --> 02:17:56,690
That way making it difficult for them to sell because that in order to get that lien replaced,

1508
02:17:57,110 --> 02:17:59,150
it's a city who's placed that lien against the property.

1509
02:17:59,430 --> 02:18:02,950
It may not be a financial type lien, but there would be a lien that's placed on there.

1510
02:18:03,150 --> 02:18:05,490
The thing that there's something that needs to be done to this property.

1511
02:18:06,630 --> 02:18:12,170
And so in that particular case, if the property is sold, what would the requirements on the new owner be?

1512
02:18:13,110 --> 02:18:18,730
Would they give the start of the clock again fresh, and they give five years or 20 years to do it?

1513
02:18:18,730 --> 02:18:23,250
or would there be some immediate remediation required

1514
02:18:23,250 --> 02:18:24,950
before the purchase could be completed?

1515
02:18:25,770 --> 02:18:28,290
As it's always staffs intent to try to work

1516
02:18:28,290 --> 02:18:29,370
with our property owners,

1517
02:18:29,610 --> 02:18:31,210
we would try to work with them

1518
02:18:31,210 --> 02:18:32,990
and coming up with a reasonable timeline

1519
02:18:32,990 --> 02:18:34,910
for them to make those repairs that are needed.

1520
02:18:37,510 --> 02:18:37,930
Thank you.

1521
02:18:38,490 --> 02:18:40,250
Councilor, I'll have to try and see, Manager.

1522
02:18:40,650 --> 02:18:44,330
We also have information from major property owners

1523
02:18:44,870 --> 02:18:46,710
as they go to refinance,

1524
02:18:46,710 --> 02:18:53,970
So, under loans, the banks have been requiring them to proactively make these repairs as a protection

1525
02:18:53,970 --> 02:18:57,530
of their investment. So, we've been experiencing that as well.

1526
02:18:58,870 --> 02:19:01,710
And I do have a couple other questions. Thank you for the clarifications.

1527
02:19:06,880 --> 02:19:11,980
In the list of the survey, there was 82 properties that were undetermined.

1528
02:19:13,300 --> 02:19:16,820
What's the situation with those? Do those get away from not having to do anything?

1529
02:19:18,500 --> 02:19:23,220
Councilman, the survey was done via previous permit records and site observation from the

1530
02:19:23,220 --> 02:19:23,940
public right away.

1531
02:19:24,420 --> 02:19:30,840
Should the program approve tonight, the building will be looking into detail, and they are

1532
02:19:30,840 --> 02:19:32,060
not exempt from the ordinance.

1533
02:19:32,660 --> 02:19:36,900
Okay, so there would be included, it just needs further inspection and clarification

1534
02:19:36,900 --> 02:19:39,680
on which category they would fall under.

1535
02:19:40,140 --> 02:19:40,520
That's correct.

1536
02:19:41,200 --> 02:19:42,540
Great, thank you for clarifying that.

1537
02:19:42,540 --> 02:19:51,820
Yeah, on the funding options that you gave, I was really surprised, I'm familiar with

1538
02:19:51,820 --> 02:19:57,140
the PACE program, that's something that I think the city, we've already approved PACE

1539
02:19:57,140 --> 02:20:02,740
programming funding for within the city, is there anything further that we would need

1540
02:20:02,740 --> 02:20:05,520
to do as a city to allow PACE funding to happen?

1541
02:20:06,240 --> 02:20:11,360
So I personally like that program, it's a great way to finance stuff.

1542
02:20:12,700 --> 02:20:16,540
There are pro-10 members of the City Council, Danny Santana, City Managers Office.

1543
02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:18,440
The City Councilman Griffiths is correct.

1544
02:20:18,580 --> 02:20:20,900
The City is part of a number of PACE programs.

1545
02:20:21,700 --> 02:20:25,760
And as long as it's a PACE program that has already been approved by City Council, it would

1546
02:20:25,760 --> 02:20:29,100
be no further action that this urionable body would have to take.

1547
02:20:29,500 --> 02:20:33,880
If it's a different PACE entity that has not already been approved by Council, it's a simple

1548
02:20:33,880 --> 02:20:34,360
process.

1549
02:20:34,900 --> 02:20:38,800
A request has to be submitted, staff reviews it, and then we make a formal recommendation

1550
02:20:38,800 --> 02:20:39,820
to urionable body.

1551
02:20:40,660 --> 02:21:00,040
So, thank you. My brain is still working. Also on the pace, though, I do recall, and I think it was mentioned in the presentation, though, that pace was originally intended for energy and energy conservation type programs. Is there anything that we would need to do to extend that to seismic retrofit?

1552
02:21:04,240 --> 02:21:10,120
We would have to review the agreements to see if it was specific only to energy retrofit programs.

1553
02:21:10,500 --> 02:21:15,200
I don't recall that being the case, but if it were and there were requests to take advantage

1554
02:21:15,200 --> 02:21:21,820
of a face refinancing option, we would simply bring that unamended request to council.

1555
02:21:22,560 --> 02:21:26,820
Yeah, personally, if I was a property owner with a property that needed to do the seismic

1556
02:21:26,820 --> 02:21:34,000
retrofit, the whole fact of financing the work under a pace program for 20 years, which

1557
02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:38,820
would be on your property tax, and would carry forward to any future owners, relieving you

1558
02:21:38,820 --> 02:21:45,140
of the responsibility is, I think, a tremendous program and probably highly underutilized,

1559
02:21:45,280 --> 02:21:50,380
but I certainly want to promote that as an option, assuming that it does work well.

1560
02:21:53,580 --> 02:22:20,220
I like the fact that you prioritized the different buildings based on, I think typically the size of the building and also I think that kind of also goes along with the potential occupancy of the building because obviously the buildings that have the most impact on the number of people are really where we were concerned I think it's part of the reason why we've exempted single family homes from this because the impact to just a couple of people is a not

1561
02:22:20,220 --> 02:22:26,100
likely in a single family home and be it affects far less people than in a multi-family

1562
02:22:26,100 --> 02:22:27,720
type of project.

1563
02:22:31,240 --> 02:22:35,780
Are most of these timelines that we're providing modeled after the

1564
02:22:35,780 --> 02:22:36,360
LA ordinance?

1565
02:22:38,540 --> 02:22:41,680
Yes, that's great. And I know I think I read that the LA

1566
02:22:41,680 --> 02:22:47,380
ordinance has been in place since 2015. Yes, around that time. Do we have any sense of

1567
02:22:47,380 --> 02:22:51,020
how their ordinances has what success they've been having?

1568
02:22:54,960 --> 02:22:56,200
They were having good

1569
02:22:56,200 --> 02:23:02,200
success until COVID hit Council member and when COVID hit they took a they took a

1570
02:23:02,200 --> 02:23:08,200
pause and now they're barely getting back into it. It's hard to tell and also to

1571
02:23:08,200 --> 02:23:14,240
clarify the timelines are modeled after not only City of Los Angeles but also City

1572
02:23:14,240 --> 02:23:20,000
of West Hollywood. City of Los Angeles does not have a steel moment frame ordinance yet.

1573
02:23:20,280 --> 02:23:24,280
The City of West Hollywood does. So it's a combination of looking at all the

1574
02:23:24,280 --> 02:23:29,500
ordinances that have been applied in Southern California and Northern California and making

1575
02:23:29,500 --> 02:23:34,160
the best judgment for the city's needs in order to come up with the proposed timelines.

1576
02:23:35,220 --> 02:23:40,880
Great. Thank you. And then my last question and I'm really just really happy to see this

1577
02:23:40,880 --> 02:23:48,140
whole thing coming forward and I'm anxious to see it move actually happen is obviously the

1578
02:23:48,140 --> 02:23:53,280
work that's being required is specialized work that I think your general contractor would

1579
02:23:53,280 --> 02:23:57,080
not be able to do, or would you need a special contractor to do this type of work?

1580
02:23:58,540 --> 02:24:04,000
First of all, do you need to hire an engineer or register design professional to evaluate

1581
02:24:04,000 --> 02:24:08,780
the building and to determine the type of deficiency that needs to be retrofitted?

1582
02:24:09,440 --> 02:24:16,260
From there, they need to submit for permit application, plan check, once it's approved, then

1583
02:24:16,260 --> 02:24:18,840
the contractor could pull the permit for construction and retrofit.

1584
02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:23,060
Rich of it would we be providing as a city any lists of

1585
02:24:23,880 --> 02:24:25,060
firms for that

1586
02:24:27,190 --> 02:24:30,750
No, in in general the city try to stay away from recommending

1587
02:24:31,610 --> 02:24:37,150
Outside consultant just because of liability issue and other criteria

1588
02:24:38,090 --> 02:24:41,170
I knew you're gonna say that but I just had to ask

1589
02:24:42,430 --> 02:24:43,030
however

1590
02:24:44,070 --> 02:24:44,670
Councilman

1591
02:24:45,570 --> 02:24:48,170
they're the the our

1592
02:24:48,170 --> 02:24:55,130
For Southern California Engineering Association, this provides a service where there is a list

1593
02:24:55,130 --> 02:24:59,890
of engineers that an owner can go and look them up.

1594
02:25:00,090 --> 02:25:04,610
And then there's also another website where owners can go and check their licenses just

1595
02:25:04,610 --> 02:25:10,070
to make sure that their licenses are active, similar to how they would do for a contractor.

1596
02:25:10,910 --> 02:25:11,050
Great.

1597
02:25:11,810 --> 02:25:12,790
I think this is fantastic.

1598
02:25:13,170 --> 02:25:16,470
I can't wait to vote yes, but I'm waiting to hear what the rest of my colleagues and the

1599
02:25:16,470 --> 02:25:17,770
public have to say.

1600
02:25:17,770 --> 02:25:18,170
Thank you.

1601
02:25:19,490 --> 02:25:21,630
Thank you, Council Member, for this.

1602
02:25:21,730 --> 02:25:24,190
Council Member, thank you, Mayor.

1603
02:25:25,270 --> 02:25:27,550
Thank you, sir, for the great presentation.

1604
02:25:27,850 --> 02:25:29,510
I think that's a great service to our community

1605
02:25:29,510 --> 02:25:35,190
to have them understand the nature of this piece, I guess.

1606
02:25:36,010 --> 02:25:36,910
A couple of questions.

1607
02:25:37,310 --> 02:25:41,490
I believe that we spent about $150,000 grant money

1608
02:25:41,490 --> 02:25:45,830
that we received for the consulting services to give us these evaluations.

1609
02:25:45,830 --> 02:25:55,570
My question is, why can't we get grant or the residents to get some of these initiatives

1610
02:25:55,570 --> 02:26:02,490
done, or is there anything in the pipeline to request grant from federal or state to

1611
02:26:02,490 --> 02:26:03,730
help the residents or community?

1612
02:26:04,610 --> 02:26:10,310
Councilman Grant, it is an option, however several of the jurisdictions have applied for it.

1613
02:26:10,930 --> 02:26:25,670
The only city that I remember in top of my head that did get some fun in the city of West Hollywood for the amount of $10 million and other cities such as City of Beverly Hill, they did not get the grant.

1614
02:26:26,390 --> 02:26:27,310
So we are.

1615
02:26:27,590 --> 02:26:28,070
Sorry.

1616
02:26:28,370 --> 02:26:28,890
I apologize.

1617
02:26:29,090 --> 02:26:29,610
Mayor Pro Tem.

1618
02:26:29,790 --> 02:26:30,190
Councilman.

1619
02:26:31,350 --> 02:26:37,870
There's always a possibility for the City of Torrance to consider this in future, legislative advocacy initiatives.

1620
02:26:38,350 --> 02:26:44,170
It can be listed as a priority project option, and it can be part of the Council's future advocacy requests.

1621
02:26:44,550 --> 02:26:47,550
So in addition to grants, there are also federal appropriations.

1622
02:26:48,070 --> 02:26:52,850
And maybe something through StateCallow, yes, the Office of Emergency Services that could be pursued.

1623
02:26:53,830 --> 02:26:58,450
So do we need to revisit to remind or how would that come back to us?

1624
02:26:59,090 --> 02:27:03,530
The first step Councilman would be for the Council to actually adopt the ordinance.

1625
02:27:04,070 --> 02:27:11,790
Once an ordinance is in place and further public education initiatives are underway, the

1626
02:27:11,790 --> 02:27:18,050
city could leverage that public engagement toward advocacy of either a federal appropriation

1627
02:27:18,050 --> 02:27:19,170
or a grant request.

1628
02:27:19,170 --> 02:27:32,670
So, staff's recommendation would be, should it be your determination to implement this ordinance, engage the public, give them an opportunity and start building our ground game to solicit funds.

1629
02:27:33,150 --> 02:27:35,890
Thank you, Mr. Tantana. Thank you for the water, too.

1630
02:27:35,890 --> 02:27:49,040
So, a couple of other clarifying questions, number one is what I heard that we will send

1631
02:27:49,040 --> 02:27:54,500
notification to the residents when we are, when we're going to pass this ordinance

1632
02:27:54,500 --> 02:28:00,680
so they know that their house or their building structure is impacted because of this ordinance.

1633
02:28:02,160 --> 02:28:06,960
That's correct, should the ordinance approve, we will be sent letters to the impacted property.

1634
02:28:08,080 --> 02:28:14,840
Prior to today's meeting, postcard will mail to impacted property owner to inform about their properties.

1635
02:28:15,760 --> 02:28:24,520
Email notification will send out, we're going to council meeting and public outreach, city, web page, social media, city cable.

1636
02:28:24,520 --> 02:28:30,140
So we also reach out to the Structural Engineer Association of California for additional feedbacks.

1637
02:28:31,100 --> 02:28:38,060
So there have been several and many appetizements.

1638
02:28:39,200 --> 02:28:44,900
And when we will send them the notifications, will we tell them what's the issue and

1639
02:28:44,900 --> 02:28:48,980
how can they fix it or what's the extent of our requirements?

1640
02:28:49,720 --> 02:28:57,540
So, the type of letter that I envision is that there will be a letter saying your building

1641
02:28:57,540 --> 02:29:04,340
is followed within the categories to be retrofitted and you should be hired a registered design

1642
02:29:04,340 --> 02:29:10,680
professional to take a look at it in detail and to provide us with a screening report to

1643
02:29:10,680 --> 02:29:15,240
see what kind of deficiency that's found within the existing buildings.

1644
02:29:15,240 --> 02:29:21,040
So just our role is just to identify and then have them to fix accordingly with that.

1645
02:29:21,300 --> 02:29:29,260
That's correct because the survey that was conducted was based on public records and also observation from the right

1646
02:29:29,260 --> 02:29:37,660
away. So it's very difficult to tell in detail what's going on, especially on building that's being concealed.

1647
02:29:40,080 --> 02:29:46,520
So the follow-up question is, so what kind of funding we're going to need in our budget if

1648
02:29:46,520 --> 02:29:54,780
are there's just a notifying them? Right? Councilman, this is just a notification. The funding

1649
02:29:54,780 --> 02:29:59,960
for staff discovered by the permit filing fees as the work is done.

1650
02:30:11,920 --> 02:30:29,980
So it's not really any expense on the city. We're just going to advocate to get funding to help the community member. Thank you. Councilman, so the letter would be sent out right away. Staff will be evaluating the type of resource that we have. And we will structure how we, we're going to be able to do that.

1651
02:30:29,980 --> 02:30:32,160
We're going to send out the notice, but not right away.

1652
02:30:35,170 --> 02:30:35,870
Thank you so much.

1653
02:30:36,010 --> 02:30:36,670
Thank you for your help.

1654
02:30:37,890 --> 02:30:40,190
Thank you, Councilmember, Councilmember Kaji.

1655
02:30:41,250 --> 02:30:41,910
Thank you, Your Honor.

1656
02:30:42,850 --> 02:30:44,290
Thank you for the presentation.

1657
02:30:44,750 --> 02:30:46,750
And just a few questions.

1658
02:30:47,090 --> 02:30:51,770
You point out the three different categories of buildings

1659
02:30:51,770 --> 02:30:53,950
that were part of the survey.

1660
02:30:55,690 --> 02:31:00,910
I think under the first category, you pointed out 983 potential

1661
02:31:00,910 --> 02:31:09,410
buildings within the scope, the second category, the wood over concrete, 245 potential buildings,

1662
02:31:09,730 --> 02:31:17,790
and the last category for the tilt-ups, 500 potential buildings. Do we have any idea how many

1663
02:31:18,210 --> 02:31:25,450
either residents or business occupants this might impact, or I should say protect?

1664
02:31:30,480 --> 02:31:38,060
It's really, really hard to tell because the number of buildings are obviously different sizes, different heights, different levels.

1665
02:31:38,760 --> 02:31:42,760
So it's really difficult to tell when we do not have that information.

1666
02:31:43,580 --> 02:31:45,620
At this point, we do have the number of units.

1667
02:31:46,820 --> 02:31:51,780
I can see if I can look back through our report and let you know the number of units, at least on the soft story.

1668
02:31:52,340 --> 02:31:56,180
But in terms of the commercial or the tilt-top, we do not have that information.

1669
02:31:57,240 --> 02:32:08,660
Okay, but I think it's safe to say it'd be a significant number of both residents and also business occupants who would be affected or protected it if we go forward with this.

1670
02:32:08,800 --> 02:32:10,020
Absolutely, absolutely.

1671
02:32:10,760 --> 02:32:25,800
Okay, I mean, you would be targeting over close to 2,000 buildings and with multiple residents or users and every building.

1672
02:32:25,800 --> 02:32:27,480
And so, yes, significantly, for sure.

1673
02:32:27,520 --> 02:32:28,520
Okay, thank you.

1674
02:32:29,280 --> 02:32:33,440
Also, as part of the survey, were any city buildings

1675
02:32:33,440 --> 02:32:36,280
or Torrance Unified School district buildings included?

1676
02:32:37,740 --> 02:32:40,460
The Torrance School Unified School district

1677
02:32:40,460 --> 02:32:43,440
is not included in this ordinance,

1678
02:32:43,440 --> 02:32:46,020
because we do not have jurisdiction in public school.

1679
02:32:47,900 --> 02:32:50,500
In addition, there are some buildings

1680
02:32:51,020 --> 02:32:53,840
that city-owned is following in the ordinance.

1681
02:32:53,840 --> 02:32:58,560
So should the on and pass some of the city building will be part of the list

1682
02:32:59,140 --> 02:33:06,280
So if we got hit with a 9.0 earthquake in 10 seconds. I'm just looking at this building

1683
02:33:08,200 --> 02:33:10,280
Yeah ducking car. Okay

1684
02:33:12,040 --> 02:33:18,780
Well, I did just want to see you know if the survey you know expanded beyond just these three categories included

1685
02:33:18,780 --> 02:33:26,380
Those that would which would be honest yeah, yeah, so should the one that passed the the city has to follow the same rule as

1686
02:33:26,380 --> 02:33:28,400
Just a regular property owners

1687
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:30,640
All right, thank you very much

1688
02:33:32,950 --> 02:33:41,510
Thank you councilmember Kaji. I just want to thank Michelle Ramirez and the community development staff and you serve for all the work you put into this

1689
02:33:41,510 --> 02:33:43,350
I just support it as well

1690
02:33:43,350 --> 02:33:48,870
It's goal to reduce the loss of life and injured injury and property loss and

1691
02:33:48,870 --> 02:33:54,930
And once in place, I would like us to look for as much support as we can through grants

1692
02:33:54,930 --> 02:34:00,570
and things to support the correction of these properties.

1693
02:34:00,830 --> 02:34:01,150
Thank you.

1694
02:34:04,890 --> 02:34:05,890
Anybody else on council?

1695
02:34:06,070 --> 02:34:10,410
We'll go ahead and request or offer public comment.

1696
02:34:17,480 --> 02:34:18,220
Yes, sir.

1697
02:34:18,780 --> 02:34:19,600
You're welcome.

1698
02:34:19,820 --> 02:34:21,400
This is Andy Porcha, again.

1699
02:34:22,180 --> 02:34:25,460
Sorry to take up your time, but this is very important.

1700
02:34:25,460 --> 02:34:32,820
and believe it or not, I'm for this issue because public safety is very important. The

1701
02:34:32,820 --> 02:34:36,900
school does not have to do it because you know those are kids in those buildings and

1702
02:34:36,900 --> 02:34:42,500
screw the kids, you know, who cares? So if the school does not need to, you know, we still

1703
02:34:42,500 --> 02:34:47,560
we still need to do this and that's a lot of money for the city, you know, just imagine all

1704
02:34:47,560 --> 02:34:54,240
those permit fees and everything. But you guys stopping a little bit too short. I would put

1705
02:34:54,240 --> 02:35:00,680
put in fire extinguishers, mandatory, like Redondo Beach, even the residential.

1706
02:35:01,720 --> 02:35:04,620
I would put in electric charging stations.

1707
02:35:05,820 --> 02:35:14,080
I would put in 24-hour garages where electric cars are charged, you know, because they

1708
02:35:14,080 --> 02:35:16,720
go set themself on fire.

1709
02:35:17,500 --> 02:35:20,700
And you know, oh, and the metal studs.

1710
02:35:25,560 --> 02:35:26,380
Thank you, sir.

1711
02:35:26,380 --> 02:35:27,300
anyone

1712
02:35:32,580 --> 02:35:37,420
else? Okay, we'll bring it back up to the Council. How would you like to take

1713
02:35:37,420 --> 02:35:40,080
action and then we'll ask for a number in title, please.

1714
02:35:43,530 --> 02:35:47,470
I move to adopt an ordinance adopting a mandatory seismic retrofit

1715
02:35:47,470 --> 02:35:50,790
program and approve an ordinance summary for publication.

1716
02:35:51,130 --> 02:35:51,450
With

1717
02:35:53,690 --> 02:35:55,050
an ordinance number, I'll second that.

1718
02:35:57,900 --> 02:36:01,880
Your Honor, this is ordinance number 3916 in ordinance of the City Council of the City of

1719
02:36:01,880 --> 02:36:07,040
Torrents, California, adding Chapter 15 entitled mandatory seismic retrofit and

1720
02:36:07,040 --> 02:36:12,380
existing buildings to division eight of the Torrents Municipal Code entitled Building and Safety.

1721
02:36:19,940 --> 02:36:20,820
Start voting please.

1722
02:36:27,380 --> 02:36:28,360
Council member Mitsuki.

1723
02:36:30,100 --> 02:36:33,960
Oh, he refused. Sorry, what do you get for not 20 in a row?

1724
02:36:35,440 --> 02:36:39,200
You're on that motion carried with Council member Mitsuki, refused and Mayor Ten absent.

1725
02:36:41,330 --> 02:36:45,090
Thank you. We're going to take a break. We'll be back at 920.

1726
02:53:14,540 --> 02:53:44,280
Thank you, and welcome back to the city council meeting. We're now moving on to item 9G. 9G is to accept and file an update from the economic development department. Thank you very much. Good evening, honorable mayor, pro-tem and city council members. I'm Fran Fulton, economic development manager for the city of Torrance. Item 9G is an update from the office of economic development and more detailed information on this presentation.

1727
02:53:44,280 --> 02:53:51,880
will also be posted on the economic development website at torrentca.gov slash business.

1728
02:53:52,720 --> 02:53:53,480
Next slide, please.

1729
02:53:56,240 --> 02:54:00,120
In September, the commercial rehabilitation rebate program was launched

1730
02:54:00,120 --> 02:54:05,360
to assist commercial property owners with exterior property improvements. To date,

1731
02:54:05,520 --> 02:54:09,560
we have received seven applications, one small project on Hawthorne Boulevard,

1732
02:54:10,080 --> 02:54:13,500
to replace the window and door for $1,000 has been approved,

1733
02:54:13,500 --> 02:54:18,520
and another larger project for $20,000 for a facade remodel for

1734
02:54:18,520 --> 02:54:21,620
a dental office in downtown has also been approved.

1735
02:54:22,360 --> 02:54:26,280
Staff will be taking before and after photos to show off the program

1736
02:54:26,280 --> 02:54:27,800
and entice more applicants.

1737
02:54:28,780 --> 02:54:33,240
As a reminder, this new program can assist with property beautification projects

1738
02:54:33,240 --> 02:54:38,760
such as facade refreshes, awning replacements, window and door upgrades,

1739
02:54:38,760 --> 02:54:44,140
lighting, signage, parking lot, ceiling and striping, landscaping, and other

1740
02:54:44,140 --> 02:54:48,820
exterior improvements. Interested commercial property owners can contact the

1741
02:54:48,820 --> 02:54:53,020
Community Development Department or the Office of Economic Development for more

1742
02:54:53,020 --> 02:54:59,540
information. Since last update, the Torrance Tech Committee met at IntelliSense, a

1743
02:54:59,540 --> 02:55:04,680
defense electronics and environmental monitoring development company. The focus

1744
02:55:04,680 --> 02:55:09,880
of this meeting was on real estate, both the attractiveness and availability of industrial

1745
02:55:09,880 --> 02:55:16,060
commercial space and torrents and the continued need for residential to attract and retain employees.

1746
02:55:16,920 --> 02:55:21,440
The Tech Committee is serving in an advisory capacity to the Office of Economic Development

1747
02:55:21,900 --> 02:55:26,020
and the City to assist with innovative business attraction and retention.

1748
02:55:27,160 --> 02:55:31,800
As an offshoot from the Tech Committee, the Economic Development team is looking at additional

1749
02:55:31,800 --> 02:55:36,920
ways to focus on business attraction and retention. Some new initiatives being developed

1750
02:55:36,920 --> 02:55:43,520
this year are a business recruiter concept to focus more in an outside sales capacity,

1751
02:55:44,160 --> 02:55:49,380
possibly on a commission basis to more aggressively seek out new businesses to come to Torrance.

1752
02:55:50,060 --> 02:55:55,400
There will be more on this as it is developed. Another two pronged approach to help retain

1753
02:55:55,400 --> 02:56:01,080
businesses and support their growth here in Torrance is a pitch Torrance program

1754
02:56:01,080 --> 02:56:06,140
whereby Torrance-based businesses have the opportunity to pitch their product

1755
02:56:06,140 --> 02:56:10,800
or service to the city to meet a need or overcome a challenge the city might

1756
02:56:10,800 --> 02:56:16,940
be facing. Along with that efforts are being re-initiated to inform more

1757
02:56:16,940 --> 02:56:21,680
Torrance businesses about available opportunities and how to do business with

1758
02:56:21,680 --> 02:56:27,460
the city. Purchasing marketing material is being updated and events are being planned

1759
02:56:27,460 --> 02:56:33,800
for later in the year to meet this purpose. Access to broadband continues to be a concern

1760
02:56:33,800 --> 02:56:38,500
to some businesses and commercial properties, so the city is pursuing additional funding

1761
02:56:38,500 --> 02:56:44,040
opportunities and partnerships to further efforts to provide more options, better service,

1762
02:56:44,520 --> 02:56:48,800
and more competitive options for the business community. Next slide please.

1763
02:56:48,800 --> 02:56:49,920
Another

1764
02:56:52,250 --> 02:56:56,370
new economic development project to aid in business attraction is the addition

1765
02:56:56,370 --> 02:57:02,810
of site selection fillable forms and a hot properties map on the city economic development

1766
02:57:02,810 --> 02:57:03,610
website.

1767
02:57:04,590 --> 02:57:10,370
One form is for businesses that are interested in locating to torrents to indicate a few

1768
02:57:10,370 --> 02:57:12,830
details of what type of property they are seeking.

1769
02:57:13,570 --> 02:57:17,970
The other form is for real estate brokers or commercial or industrial property owners

1770
02:57:17,970 --> 02:57:21,330
to provide information to the Office of Economic Development

1771
02:57:21,770 --> 02:57:27,190
that can then be featured on the hot properties map so that we can show

1772
02:57:27,190 --> 02:57:30,690
what's available in Torrance and will help us populate our map.

1773
02:57:30,950 --> 02:57:34,730
So this screenshot here shows what that map looks like,

1774
02:57:34,810 --> 02:57:37,450
which is currently up on the Economic Development website.

1775
02:57:38,050 --> 02:57:38,770
Next slide, please.

1776
02:57:40,670 --> 02:57:43,870
The number of visitors to Torrance hotels continues to rise

1777
02:57:43,870 --> 02:57:46,190
and the rates continue to increase.

1778
02:57:46,190 --> 02:57:52,310
Visitors to the California Welcome Center at the mall are averaging about 6,000 people a month,

1779
02:57:53,010 --> 02:58:01,230
autosales have been averaging about 1,100 a month, and film permit revenues exceeded $32,000 for last year.

1780
02:58:02,110 --> 02:58:02,830
Next slide, please.

1781
02:58:07,210 --> 02:58:13,730
The key recommendation from the downtown revitalization plan that the Office of Economic Development has been spearheading,

1782
02:58:14,090 --> 02:58:16,810
has been the establishment of a business improvement district.

1783
02:58:17,530 --> 02:58:23,510
After the approval by the larger Downtown Torrance Association and the City Council to proceed

1784
02:58:23,510 --> 02:58:28,530
with exploring the formation of a bid business improvement district, a steering committee

1785
02:58:28,530 --> 02:58:32,470
has been formed made up of downtown businesses and staff from the city.

1786
02:58:33,250 --> 02:58:38,790
Staff have also interviewed three consultants so far to aid in the formation process and

1787
02:58:38,790 --> 02:58:42,090
believe that we have found one that will be the most beneficial for the group.

1788
02:58:42,630 --> 02:58:46,390
This consultant will be meeting with the steering committee at their next meeting, which

1789
02:58:46,390 --> 02:58:51,930
scheduled on the 27th of this month. And also I'd like to comment on the discussion that

1790
02:58:51,930 --> 02:58:57,730
happened earlier about outdoor dining and the downtown revitalization plan. It is our hope,

1791
02:58:57,730 --> 02:59:02,990
and I believe the businesses that are in downtown, it's their hope as well that by forming a business

1792
02:59:02,990 --> 02:59:08,970
improvement district, that will really help us to look at parking, to look at the tenant mix,

1793
02:59:09,190 --> 02:59:14,230
potentially attracting more restaurants and that type of thing. So we see that all is a positive

1794
02:59:14,230 --> 02:59:17,790
of the city and the business community working together

1795
02:59:17,790 --> 02:59:20,910
to further that downtown revitalization plan.

1796
02:59:22,450 --> 02:59:25,370
Wayfinding and signage, thanks to the Public Works Department,

1797
02:59:25,850 --> 02:59:28,730
the new city signs are starting to be seen around town,

1798
02:59:29,370 --> 02:59:32,810
signs at the Civic Center, and on Hawthorne Boulevard are installed,

1799
02:59:33,350 --> 02:59:34,990
and Gateway signs will be next,

1800
02:59:35,230 --> 02:59:36,590
and they are dramatically different

1801
02:59:36,590 --> 02:59:38,510
from what we have currently.

1802
02:59:39,590 --> 02:59:41,870
And city staff are also working on replacing

1803
02:59:41,870 --> 02:59:44,910
some of the existing signage in the downtown area

1804
02:59:44,910 --> 02:59:47,570
and are starting to examine what will be required

1805
02:59:47,570 --> 02:59:50,470
for new gateway signs specifically for entries

1806
02:59:50,470 --> 02:59:51,490
into the downtown.

1807
02:59:53,030 --> 02:59:54,970
Regarding the Friendship City Program

1808
02:59:54,970 --> 02:59:57,530
with the approval by City Council of this program,

1809
02:59:57,990 --> 02:59:59,950
Mayor Chen has signed as...

1810
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:07,280
As of yesterday, an agreement with Tainan Taiwan, and he will be meeting in Shanghua Taiwan

1811
03:00:07,280 --> 03:00:13,780
while he is on his personal trip there, to sign the agreement without city as well. And

1812
03:00:13,780 --> 03:00:20,100
then at some point, we will be signing with Hwasong South Korea also to formally establish

1813
03:00:20,100 --> 03:00:25,700
these friendship-city relationships that will focus on business investment and economic development.

1814
03:00:26,940 --> 03:00:32,740
The Interdepartmental Initiative, why Torrance, continues to be developed to better market

1815
03:00:32,740 --> 03:00:35,220
the advantages of doing business in the city of Torrance.

1816
03:00:35,780 --> 03:00:41,420
A storyboard has been created to better engage viewers with interactive information and

1817
03:00:41,420 --> 03:00:47,000
to tell the Torrance story more effectively with embedded video testimonials, updated demographics

1818
03:00:47,000 --> 03:00:49,080
and streamlined information.

1819
03:00:49,080 --> 03:00:56,120
This storyboard, if you will, is continually being updated and we encourage everyone to

1820
03:00:56,120 --> 03:00:57,220
visit that regularly.

1821
03:00:57,980 --> 03:01:04,580
And you can go to www.torrentca.gov slash YTorrents to find that.

1822
03:01:05,100 --> 03:01:07,720
And please do check it out and let us know what you think.

1823
03:01:08,160 --> 03:01:09,160
Next slide please.

1824
03:01:10,280 --> 03:01:16,420
Just to wrap it up, more information, details and links to reports and companies mentioned

1825
03:01:16,420 --> 03:01:20,320
and highlighted here, can be found on the Economic Development website.

1826
03:01:20,800 --> 03:01:26,900
An earlier update reports to Council are also archived there, so you can continue to

1827
03:01:26,900 --> 03:01:28,780
access those and view those as well.

1828
03:01:29,300 --> 03:01:33,680
With that, I thank you very much, and I stand by for any questions you may have.

1829
03:01:34,920 --> 03:01:39,180
Thank you, Ms. Fulton, and thank you to you and your team for everything you're doing.

1830
03:01:39,640 --> 03:01:44,440
We have some comments and questions from the Council Member Matucci.

1831
03:01:44,960 --> 03:01:45,520
Thank you.

1832
03:01:45,520 --> 03:02:01,460
Thank you, Fran. Great information. I'm glad that we're moving forward with some of the items, especially the pitch torrents. I think it's a brilliant way to get entrepreneurs to pitch something that we may not even know we need.

1833
03:02:02,300 --> 03:02:13,770
I know Long Beach has, I don't know what they call it, but they have a pitch Long Beach.

1834
03:02:13,770 --> 03:02:20,790
okay okay so very creative here in torrents yeah something how about torrents

1835
03:02:20,790 --> 03:02:31,810
pitch as a pitch what I'd like to see us do is not limit ourselves to torrents

1836
03:02:31,810 --> 03:02:37,150
based businesses and the reason I say that is because there might be a company that

1837
03:02:37,810 --> 03:02:43,250
has a service that's not available here in torrents and who knows they might

1838
03:02:43,250 --> 03:02:49,110
even moved to Torrance if they get a contract here in Torrance so I think keeping our you know always you

1839
03:02:49,110 --> 03:02:54,510
don't always consider Torrance based businesses first I agree with that but I think keeping those

1840
03:02:54,510 --> 03:03:02,290
horizons a little bit open I think it's better. I do I do however have a concern about in that program

1841
03:03:02,290 --> 03:03:10,730
just getting inundated with just be wanting to sell everything paper, toner you know soda machines

1842
03:03:10,730 --> 03:03:21,350
So I think we should have a system like America's Got Talent, where we pre-screen people

1843
03:03:21,350 --> 03:03:28,270
have some staff pre-screened the companies and then go to a stage two.

1844
03:03:28,690 --> 03:03:34,170
So why don't you send us what you do first, we'll analyze it, and then we'll see if we

1845
03:03:34,170 --> 03:03:40,150
get an appointment because like I said you know there might I mean we might get you know

1846
03:03:40,150 --> 03:03:47,090
50 companies in one day that want to come over it and what you know I think staff is pretty

1847
03:03:47,090 --> 03:03:51,590
busy with a lot of different stuff but need this to say we do want to give everybody an opportunity

1848
03:03:51,590 --> 03:03:58,430
to be heard just kind of organize it and I guess in a way so that not not everybody just can just come

1849
03:03:58,430 --> 03:03:59,670
and sell us toner.

1850
03:04:00,250 --> 03:04:00,910
Watch out more.

1851
03:04:02,870 --> 03:04:07,090
Well, I mean, when I have my office, I had like, every day somebody's telling me to copy

1852
03:04:07,090 --> 03:04:07,510
your paper.

1853
03:04:07,510 --> 03:04:09,490
It's like, I don't need any more copy of paper, you know?

1854
03:04:10,390 --> 03:04:20,750
But anyways, then as far as the, having a webpage where there's available space, I know like

1855
03:04:20,750 --> 03:04:27,170
through the matrix, which is our MLS system here for realtors, they have kind of like a

1856
03:04:27,170 --> 03:04:32,490
live like a live update live feed so it doesn't have to be managed you know I think we want it

1857
03:04:32,490 --> 03:04:37,890
minimized the amount of people that have to put their hands on it so matrix has that city

1858
03:04:37,890 --> 03:04:45,470
feed for commercials really good which is owned by loopnet and co-star which is obviously I would say

1859
03:04:45,470 --> 03:04:52,530
it's more of a monopoly when it comes to that but they do also have live live updates so if you want

1860
03:04:52,530 --> 03:04:59,810
to set up a page, you can have those that data update automatically. So if a place gets

1861
03:04:59,810 --> 03:05:04,550
leased out, it automatically disappears off the page. Oh, that's great. You know, so I think

1862
03:05:04,550 --> 03:05:08,870
I think that would be wise to do so that we don't have to sit there and try to get people to

1863
03:05:08,870 --> 03:05:14,730
sign up, try to get people to take it off once it's not available anymore. Because out of sight,

1864
03:05:14,830 --> 03:05:19,090
out of mind, I might put that there's a hundred thousand square foot place that was least six months

1865
03:05:19,090 --> 03:05:26,270
I forgot to take it off the site, so we want that information to be accurate and have people actually use it.

1866
03:05:26,730 --> 03:05:28,930
I think it should be live, live update.

1867
03:05:29,890 --> 03:05:31,350
And I think that's it.

1868
03:05:32,450 --> 03:05:33,070
Good job.

1869
03:05:33,510 --> 03:05:33,850
Thank you.

1870
03:05:34,890 --> 03:05:35,790
Thank you, sir.

1871
03:05:36,310 --> 03:05:37,470
Council member Griffiths.

1872
03:05:38,690 --> 03:05:39,430
Thank you, Mayor.

1873
03:05:39,630 --> 03:05:40,570
Thank you, Ms. Bolton.

1874
03:05:42,250 --> 03:05:44,070
As always, I've got a few questions for you.

1875
03:05:44,070 --> 03:05:56,870
On the commercial rehab rebate program, a little disappointed to see that we haven't had a whole lot of activity on that considering we got almost a quarter million dollars to have businesses do some improvement.

1876
03:05:56,990 --> 03:05:59,230
How are we promoting that to the businesses?

1877
03:05:59,970 --> 03:06:02,090
We currently have it on the website.

1878
03:06:02,690 --> 03:06:06,470
We've been letting businesses know as we're in contact with them.

1879
03:06:06,470 --> 03:06:12,290
I think also if we have code issues we're letting businesses know that this is an opportunity

1880
03:06:12,290 --> 03:06:18,030
for them where we can incentivize them to bring their properties up to speed. But I agree,

1881
03:06:18,110 --> 03:06:25,110
I think we can do more, we can work with CityCable and our communication officers as well.

1882
03:06:25,790 --> 03:06:33,690
The idea I think of doing before and after photo shoot, we may proactively promote that out across

1883
03:06:34,190 --> 03:06:39,450
So others can see what's being done, but yeah, I think we could more actively promote.

1884
03:06:39,630 --> 03:06:44,810
And I think we might have missed opportunity too with maybe putting an insert in business license mailings or something like that.

1885
03:06:45,110 --> 03:06:52,110
Councilman Otto, I'm trying to imagine, we also have the email listing of businesses through our business license.

1886
03:06:52,730 --> 03:06:54,070
I mean, I wouldn't direct out, please.

1887
03:06:54,170 --> 03:06:59,070
I wouldn't advocate for spending more money just to do it, but if we're sending or communicating with people.

1888
03:06:59,170 --> 03:06:59,490
We agree.

1889
03:06:59,870 --> 03:07:01,010
And if you have emails as a customer.

1890
03:07:01,010 --> 03:07:04,250
I believe we have included information in this last mailing.

1891
03:07:04,570 --> 03:07:04,830
We did.

1892
03:07:04,950 --> 03:07:05,450
We did include it.

1893
03:07:05,450 --> 03:07:05,710
Okay.

1894
03:07:06,070 --> 03:07:06,310
We did.

1895
03:07:06,770 --> 03:07:07,070
We did.

1896
03:07:07,070 --> 03:07:07,190
All right.

1897
03:07:07,450 --> 03:07:10,330
Well, a little surprise is not more interest in that.

1898
03:07:10,530 --> 03:07:12,070
It seems like we're going to give away some money.

1899
03:07:13,090 --> 03:07:14,990
I would think people would jump at that.

1900
03:07:15,290 --> 03:07:15,790
We're going to jump at it.

1901
03:07:17,830 --> 03:07:22,190
The other one that's biggie for me is the downtown revitalization business improvement

1902
03:07:22,190 --> 03:07:22,690
district.

1903
03:07:24,150 --> 03:07:26,390
It feels like we've been talking about this forever.

1904
03:07:26,390 --> 03:07:32,970
And to see in your report that it's likely going to be another year before we get something

1905
03:07:32,970 --> 03:07:34,030
approved is just,

1906
03:07:36,140 --> 03:07:39,140
I don't know, how can we improve on how this is moving?

1907
03:07:39,760 --> 03:07:41,740
The snail is moving too slowly.

1908
03:07:42,120 --> 03:07:47,000
Yeah, I think when we get the consultant on board to advise this and going through the steps

1909
03:07:47,000 --> 03:07:48,460
it will start happening.

1910
03:07:49,000 --> 03:07:54,140
And I think the group is leaning more towards business-based, which should be a quicker

1911
03:07:54,140 --> 03:07:56,800
process than property-based.

1912
03:07:56,800 --> 03:08:12,460
So I think our hope is and with the group the steering committee is that's meeting that will have everything in place by the end of this calendar year to be able to go through the legal process to have an established first quarter of next calendar year.

1913
03:08:13,260 --> 03:08:19,300
And that was what I wanted to ask you to elaborate on is what is the council's involvement in informing that business improvement district?

1914
03:08:19,300 --> 03:08:24,300
It's similar to the process we went through when Discover Torrance, the tourism business

1915
03:08:24,300 --> 03:08:29,000
improvement district was established, where there are a series of three meetings.

1916
03:08:30,120 --> 03:08:37,100
So the group, the business group comes forward with a resolution of intention to the City Council,

1917
03:08:37,660 --> 03:08:43,500
and then there are a certain number of days and a public meeting is set, and a public hearing,

1918
03:08:43,860 --> 03:08:46,480
so that anybody in the community can speak on it.

1919
03:08:46,480 --> 03:08:51,500
And once that's approved, then the follow-up is the resolution of formation.

1920
03:08:52,000 --> 03:08:57,520
So it's a series of three council meetings over, I think, about a two or three months

1921
03:08:57,520 --> 03:08:58,100
period.

1922
03:09:00,850 --> 03:09:02,450
Hopefully I get to see that before I'm gone.

1923
03:09:05,670 --> 03:09:10,910
The business recruiter, tell me a little bit more about that.

1924
03:09:11,050 --> 03:09:16,550
Is that something that's actively in the works, or is still in a very formative, idea stage?

1925
03:09:16,550 --> 03:09:23,910
The concept went for the budget was approved to allocate a certain amount of money for that.

1926
03:09:24,350 --> 03:09:30,910
So, the Office of Economic Development will be putting out requests for proposals on that,

1927
03:09:31,450 --> 03:09:35,790
imminently probably in the next month or so, so we can see what kind of feedback we get on that.

1928
03:09:36,730 --> 03:09:39,790
I know I think I talked to the City Manager about that some time ago.

1929
03:09:39,930 --> 03:09:46,090
I thought that would be a great idea to help increase our business activity, because I'm sure

1930
03:09:46,090 --> 03:09:50,210
there's some really hungry people out there that would potentially work on a commission

1931
03:09:50,210 --> 03:09:55,490
basis to try to bring in some businesses and they'd work really hard and be 100% focused

1932
03:09:55,490 --> 03:09:59,170
on doing that, which I know you're spread very, very thin.

1933
03:09:59,990 --> 03:10:00,490
Yeah, that would be great.

1934
03:10:01,930 --> 03:10:02,730
I think that was it.

1935
03:10:02,870 --> 03:10:03,890
I thank you very much.

1936
03:10:03,990 --> 03:10:05,690
It's a lot of stuff you're up to.

1937
03:10:06,230 --> 03:10:06,790
Thank you.

1938
03:10:06,970 --> 03:10:07,110
Yep.

1939
03:10:07,850 --> 03:10:08,590
Thank you, sir.

1940
03:10:08,930 --> 03:10:10,250
Council Member Kaji.

1941
03:10:11,870 --> 03:10:12,530
Thank you.

1942
03:10:12,530 --> 03:10:19,390
Thank you for the presentation on what our city is doing in the area of economic development.

1943
03:10:20,030 --> 03:10:24,310
I just wanted to focus on the business recruiter portion of the presentation.

1944
03:10:26,310 --> 03:10:32,150
There's a lot of people who live in Torrance but who work in different parts of LA County.

1945
03:10:32,710 --> 03:10:39,490
I think just looking at the traffic at the 405, we know they're either driving on the 405 North,

1946
03:10:39,490 --> 03:10:42,430
North, maybe Southbound, Harbor, Fruityway going into downtown.

1947
03:10:43,190 --> 03:10:50,130
But I know that there's a lot of talent here in the city and every day when I look at

1948
03:10:50,130 --> 03:10:56,230
articles about the city of Los Angeles, city of Santa Monica and some of the surrounding

1949
03:10:56,230 --> 03:11:06,370
cities, the stories that portray those cities as really being anti-business, being overrun

1950
03:11:06,370 --> 03:11:15,850
by homeless people, graffiti, crime, I think really sets our city apart because what we've

1951
03:11:15,850 --> 03:11:22,570
created and what we've maintained is stellar and it really doesn't need to be, well it

1952
03:11:22,570 --> 03:11:29,990
does need to be sole and I really think that we need to go beyond the confines of our city

1953
03:11:29,990 --> 03:11:35,530
borders and we need to expand our reach to a lot of these cities where you have major

1954
03:11:35,530 --> 03:11:41,970
or employers or even small and medium-sized employers who have to deal with so many obstacles

1955
03:11:42,370 --> 03:11:47,030
just to get their employees in and out of the office in a safe way.

1956
03:11:47,910 --> 03:11:54,530
So here's what I'd like to suggest, not that I need another job, not that I'm pitching

1957
03:11:54,530 --> 03:12:01,110
myself as a business recruiter, however I do think we need to send teams out to these

1958
03:12:01,110 --> 03:12:01,730
other cities.

1959
03:12:01,730 --> 03:12:08,710
I know speaking with Estela Lopez, who is the director of the downtown industrial business

1960
03:12:08,710 --> 03:12:11,890
improvement district, her office is located in the heart of Skid Row.

1961
03:12:12,670 --> 03:12:18,710
She's surrounded by her business members who are in the seafood business, garment business,

1962
03:12:19,310 --> 03:12:26,130
toy business, and who are just fed up with the bureaucracy at City Hall, Los Angeles City

1963
03:12:26,130 --> 03:12:26,370
Hall.

1964
03:12:26,370 --> 03:12:35,070
So, I think it's worth our while, and I'd also like to, you know, put the challenge out to the council members too, that we go out on the road.

1965
03:12:35,490 --> 03:12:42,710
I think council members shaking myself early on, we were calling on other cities and talking to mayors and council people.

1966
03:12:43,230 --> 03:12:53,690
I think we can do the same too, and put our message out there with those who are in leadership in some of these cities, not that they want to see us take their business away.

1967
03:12:53,690 --> 03:13:13,390
but I think what we can offer is a quality location, safe, secure, and to me that's I think that's just right down the middle for us, so yeah, so I'd like to I appreciate this, but I think this year I'd like to see us all step up our game. Thank you.

1968
03:13:13,890 --> 03:13:14,610
Thank you.

1969
03:13:14,830 --> 03:13:15,270
Yeah, I agree.

1970
03:13:15,410 --> 03:13:19,330
The council mayor and council could be great ambassadors for the city of Torrance.

1971
03:13:23,330 --> 03:13:24,230
Thank you, sir.

1972
03:13:24,650 --> 03:13:25,150
Council member.

1973
03:13:25,410 --> 03:13:27,790
Thank you, Mayor.

1974
03:13:28,430 --> 03:13:28,970
Thank you, Ms. Wilson.

1975
03:13:29,430 --> 03:13:32,350
I think we meet periodically and thank you for all your efforts.

1976
03:13:32,350 --> 03:13:37,870
I appreciate your giving us a lot of information and your efforts and department is really

1977
03:13:37,870 --> 03:13:38,470
proactive.

1978
03:13:39,130 --> 03:13:40,150
I really appreciate that.

1979
03:13:42,070 --> 03:13:48,490
On page two, you provided us some numbers about the individuals visiting the California

1980
03:13:48,490 --> 03:13:54,970
Welcome Center at Delano Fashion Center to collect information about the local area.

1981
03:13:58,030 --> 03:14:00,310
Is this the traffic they're going into?

1982
03:14:00,530 --> 03:14:02,090
That's what we're talking about here, right?

1983
03:14:02,570 --> 03:14:07,990
It's the, they count the staff that works at the Welcome Center, that round desk.

1984
03:14:07,990 --> 03:14:22,730
They count everyone who they interact with who comes to the desk there and I know it seems like from October till December it's going up searching it and now it seems like it's downward trend for this.

1985
03:14:24,390 --> 03:14:37,830
Do we do we have any analysis or any information why it is dipping any I would think for the most part it's holiday shoppers that were there before the holiday season

1986
03:14:37,830 --> 03:14:39,510
and so it's probably dropped a little bit.

1987
03:14:39,930 --> 03:14:42,350
I would imagine we'll see more people when the summer comes.

1988
03:14:42,350 --> 03:14:44,710
We'll have more visitors coming to the area anyway.

1989
03:14:45,710 --> 03:14:50,270
Are they looking for any specific shop

1990
03:14:50,270 --> 03:14:52,090
or specific things that are really attracted?

1991
03:14:52,350 --> 03:14:53,670
Do we get data from each?

1992
03:14:54,290 --> 03:14:56,490
I think it kind of runs the gamut.

1993
03:14:56,590 --> 03:14:58,170
I mean, some people are just looking for directions

1994
03:14:58,170 --> 03:14:59,110
in the malls.

1995
03:14:59,150 --> 03:14:59,950
Some people are looking

1996
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:21,800
We're looking for what's happening in Torrance, or they may be visiting from somewhere else, so they are not really familiar with the area or they're kind of planning their trip across the state. So they want information from other welcome centers or other attractions that are throughout the state. So it kind of varies, but I can follow up to one more of the specifics of the conversations that they have.

1997
03:15:21,800 --> 03:15:28,520
Appreciate that. I think my thought process is that just to look which area, the traffic they're attracted to,

1998
03:15:28,600 --> 03:15:34,800
we'll spend more time. Probably we can explore more businesses to the similar nature and have them

1999
03:15:34,800 --> 03:15:40,360
to come in, you know, open. Yeah, there are some features I know where they can plan an itinerary,

2000
03:15:40,480 --> 03:15:48,220
either within Torrance or beyond throughout the state. Thank you. About the business of

2001
03:15:48,220 --> 03:15:51,840
a future program for the personnel that we're working on.

2002
03:15:54,080 --> 03:15:59,000
Just to piggyback what Councilman Griffith and other colleagues are saying.

2003
03:15:59,200 --> 03:16:10,240
Are we planning on having one person, or are we going to have it open to anybody who can bring businesses and we give them commission because they're bringing businesses to here?

2004
03:16:11,020 --> 03:16:11,460
What's the?

2005
03:16:11,460 --> 03:16:14,500
So I think we can look at what the response is.

2006
03:16:14,580 --> 03:16:19,120
I know an example from another city is they actually work with a commercial real estate

2007
03:16:19,120 --> 03:16:24,680
company because they're really focused on bringing retail and restaurants to their city.

2008
03:16:25,400 --> 03:16:28,020
That might not be something we want to focus on specifically.

2009
03:16:28,280 --> 03:16:32,340
I think there's a lot of desire for restaurant and retail to want to be in Torrance.

2010
03:16:32,860 --> 03:16:38,200
But if we want to look at the tech businesses or biotech or kind of focus on an industry,

2011
03:16:38,200 --> 03:16:45,940
We would look to see, we want to spell that out in our RFP and what we're looking for to get from that advisor or recruiter.

2012
03:16:46,220 --> 03:16:51,160
I think that's exactly my point. So we look at the niche, what we need, and then we explore that certainly.

2013
03:16:51,520 --> 03:17:08,140
Yeah. One of the things that we're doing kind of as part of the tech committee is I'm in the process of requesting a special customized report from the employment development department from the state that will give us data over a period of years for all of the industry codes.

2014
03:17:08,140 --> 03:17:17,320
So we can see what which industries are growing or dropping within our city and I think that will help us sort of identify what we might want to target.

2015
03:17:17,760 --> 03:17:18,280
Look at trend, yes.

2016
03:17:18,740 --> 03:17:19,720
Thank you so much.

2017
03:17:19,940 --> 03:17:20,180
Thank you.

2018
03:17:20,320 --> 03:17:20,660
You're welcome.

2019
03:17:20,920 --> 03:17:21,240
Thank you, Mayor.

2020
03:17:24,020 --> 03:17:24,580
Thank you.

2021
03:17:25,060 --> 03:17:26,980
Any other comments from the council?

2022
03:17:28,600 --> 03:17:30,200
We will take it to the audience.

2023
03:17:30,600 --> 03:17:33,300
Anybody would like to speak on this item?

2024
03:17:33,300 --> 03:17:34,380
James

2025
03:17:45,580 --> 03:17:53,960
Henry, on your revitalization of Downtown Torns, is the Downtown Torns Association

2026
03:17:54,300 --> 03:18:02,620
or DTA, meeting on March 27, 2023, is that meeting open to the public,

2027
03:18:05,080 --> 03:18:07,520
is it? Are you

2028
03:18:07,520 --> 03:18:08,400
going to announce it?

2029
03:18:12,230 --> 03:18:13,970
I just want to know if you're going to announce it.

2030
03:18:20,370 --> 03:18:48,330
with my presentation here. But yes, the Downtown Torrance Association, the larger group meets monthly, typically on, I believe it's the second Wednesday of the month, and then the steering committee that was formed meets every other Monday at four o'clock in the DTA meets at different places, but it's usually announced if you're on, you can get on the DTA email distribution list.

2031
03:18:48,330 --> 03:18:55,830
It's also posted on social media, I believe on Facebook and Instagram, and then the Steering

2032
03:18:55,830 --> 03:19:02,190
Committee meetings are at 1215 El Prado, which was the police substation slash community

2033
03:19:02,190 --> 03:19:02,610
center.

2034
03:19:14,430 --> 03:19:18,810
Hello, this is Andy Porcha, I'm bringing you the solution.

2035
03:19:18,810 --> 03:19:22,630
You should hire what's his name?

2036
03:19:23,450 --> 03:19:26,930
Wine, tadam, his vein, but he says wine.

2037
03:19:27,830 --> 03:19:34,450
Anyway, he could come in here, bring all the money in here.

2038
03:19:35,810 --> 03:19:40,730
You should open a restaurant room between the two landing gears.

2039
03:19:41,130 --> 03:19:43,470
You know what I mean? Plenty of plays.

2040
03:19:43,470 --> 03:19:52,170
It's all bulldozed down, down, down torrents and build the airplane factories because they

2041
03:19:52,170 --> 03:19:58,230
are bringing in the airplanes and they need place to put it together and put top of them

2042
03:19:58,230 --> 03:20:05,510
the hotels and new restaurants with the retro fitting and it would be millions of people

2043
03:20:05,510 --> 03:20:10,910
coming because wine, tadam is a very good salesperson.

2044
03:20:10,910 --> 03:20:15,350
You should hire him. You should pay him. He would bring you in.

2045
03:20:17,910 --> 03:20:21,450
Thank you, sir. Would anyone else like to speak on this item?

2046
03:20:26,300 --> 03:20:29,320
Okay, we'll bring it back up to the council. How would the council like to?

2047
03:20:30,920 --> 03:20:31,320
There you go.

2048
03:20:32,480 --> 03:20:34,420
I'm that we accept and file 9G.

2049
03:20:35,820 --> 03:20:36,260
Second.

2050
03:20:40,420 --> 03:20:41,240
Third voting, please.

2051
03:20:43,540 --> 03:20:46,720
You're on a debt motion carried with council Mayor Chan at them.

2052
03:20:46,720 --> 03:20:47,700
Thank

2053
03:20:50,040 --> 03:20:59,020
you, moving on to our next item, 9H from the Finance and Governmental Operations Committee, Councilmember Kaji.

2054
03:21:00,540 --> 03:21:04,940
Thank you, Your Honor. Good evening. The Finance and Government Operations Committee

2055
03:21:04,940 --> 03:21:14,620
met on February 28, 2023 to discuss the fiscal year 2022 through 2023 mid-year budget review report.

2056
03:21:14,620 --> 03:21:24,120
The committee was presented with a report on mid-year results, urine forecast, and program modifications from the Fire and General Services Department.

2057
03:21:24,620 --> 03:21:33,980
The Finance and Government Operations Committee approved the Fire Department's program modification with two members in favor and committee member Griffiths abstaining.

2058
03:21:34,440 --> 03:21:39,020
The General Services Program Modification was unanimously approved by all members.

2059
03:21:40,100 --> 03:21:45,320
Finally, the mid-year report and the accompanying budget amendments listed in the recommendation

2060
03:21:45,320 --> 03:21:51,860
for this item, numbers one and number three through number eight, were also unanimously approved

2061
03:21:51,860 --> 03:21:53,020
by all committee members.

2062
03:21:53,700 --> 03:21:58,360
Based on these vote results, all items are recommended for consideration by the City Council.

2063
03:21:59,160 --> 03:22:04,260
I would like to thank staff for their presentation and preparation of the report, as well as committee

2064
03:22:04,260 --> 03:22:06,380
members for their participation and input.

2065
03:22:06,380 --> 03:22:09,380
but committee members and staff are available for questions.

2066
03:22:09,980 --> 03:22:10,260
Thank you.

2067
03:22:12,570 --> 03:22:13,410
Thank you.

2068
03:22:13,830 --> 03:22:15,770
Any comment from the council?

2069
03:22:21,170 --> 03:22:22,430
Okay, we'll take it to the public.

2070
03:22:22,970 --> 03:22:25,650
Anyone from the public wish to speak on this item?

2071
03:22:35,800 --> 03:22:40,680
James Henry, for those elected officials before me,

2072
03:22:41,080 --> 03:22:45,860
who did not attend the Finance and Governmental Operations Meeting,

2073
03:22:46,440 --> 03:22:51,620
held on Tuesday, February 28th at 3 p.m.,

2074
03:22:51,620 --> 03:22:58,260
And these city council chambers, I would like to bring to their attention attachment

2075
03:22:58,260 --> 03:23:01,580
be of this again, the item submitted by me.

2076
03:23:15,070 --> 03:23:17,470
Thank you, sir, would anyone else like to speak?

2077
03:23:20,880 --> 03:23:25,600
Oh, this is porch up again. I'm not very educated person, as you can see.

2078
03:23:26,100 --> 03:23:31,000
I have a speech impediment at everything, but I don't understand one thing.

2079
03:23:31,000 --> 03:23:39,820
If the fire department ambulance service was supposed to save the city, not the fire department,

2080
03:23:40,300 --> 03:23:45,360
so after two years, why are we throwing money at steel?

2081
03:23:46,600 --> 03:23:51,840
They should pay back, they should pay back the 3 million dollar invested already.

2082
03:23:53,140 --> 03:23:56,840
So who's lying, who brings up this data?

2083
03:23:56,840 --> 03:24:05,580
one minute they making the dough better than sling academy you know and the

2084
03:24:05,580 --> 03:24:12,740
other they need 700 thousand dollars so are they making money or losing money

2085
03:24:12,740 --> 03:24:19,240
and it's very easy to make money you pay me and then I have a service for you I

2086
03:24:19,240 --> 03:24:21,680
charge you up to the Vazoo thank

2087
03:24:25,390 --> 03:24:27,410
you sir would anybody else like to speak on

2088
03:24:27,410 --> 03:24:27,890
on this item?

2089
03:24:31,760 --> 03:24:34,240
Okay, we'll bring it back to the Council for Action.

2090
03:24:40,140 --> 03:24:44,100
I apologize, Council Member Griffiths. Go ahead, please.

2091
03:24:44,520 --> 03:24:45,520
No worries, whenever you're ready.

2092
03:24:46,460 --> 03:24:53,880
Yes, thank you. As I did in the Finance Committee, item two on the addition of the six additional

2093
03:24:53,880 --> 03:25:00,360
full-time ambulance operators, I abstained on that item in the Finance Committee and I will

2094
03:25:00,360 --> 03:25:01,760
We'll intend to do so again tonight.

2095
03:25:02,440 --> 03:25:15,600
I'm very concerned that the significant increase in staffing, which actually represents a 60% increase in staffing for ambulance operators from what was originally proposed seems like an awfully big increase.

2096
03:25:15,960 --> 03:25:24,400
And I know that there's been a reported increase in transports, but I'm not sure if that's a temporary situation or a permanent condition.

2097
03:25:24,400 --> 03:25:33,380
And I'm really looking for a more thorough breakdown of the whole EMS program, which I think we're overdue to get.

2098
03:25:34,040 --> 03:25:40,980
And so for that reason, I would like to pull item two out as a separate vote so that I can vote on the other items without

2099
03:25:40,980 --> 03:25:42,440
abstaining on the whole thing.

2100
03:25:50,630 --> 03:25:51,430
Councilmember Lewis?

2101
03:25:52,510 --> 03:26:01,470
Yes, just to piggyback off of Councilmember Griffiths, the Public Safety and Emergency Committee had a very

2102
03:26:01,470 --> 03:26:10,510
be in-depth great presentation of the current EMS program here in Torrance and just based

2103
03:26:10,510 --> 03:26:16,050
on the comments from Council Member Griffiths, maybe we can have that same presentation,

2104
03:26:16,350 --> 03:26:24,090
maybe more in an abbreviated form just to answer any concerns but based off of that presentation

2105
03:26:24,090 --> 03:26:29,670
that was submitted to us in the committee meeting, I'm very comfortable with the six additional

2106
03:26:29,670 --> 03:26:37,010
ambulance operators, so it can free up more of the suppression EMS staff to attend to

2107
03:26:37,010 --> 03:26:43,550
other emergencies and also decrease what's referred to as wall times at hospitals, where

2108
03:26:43,550 --> 03:26:49,230
we don't have to have a full engine staying at the hospital until medical care can take

2109
03:26:49,230 --> 03:26:50,290
over that patient.

2110
03:26:50,450 --> 03:26:56,070
We can have an ambulance operator there doing wall time instead of our suppression units.

2111
03:26:56,070 --> 03:27:03,550
So, based on that, and I understand that, and Chief, do you may please correct me if I'm wrong?

2112
03:27:03,990 --> 03:27:13,650
Wall times in LA are starting to get more and more excessive with the number of transports, particularly from the unhoused community.

2113
03:27:14,450 --> 03:27:21,190
And adding these operators is economically feasible because it frees up more of our suppression team.

2114
03:27:21,690 --> 03:27:22,330
That's correct.

2115
03:27:22,330 --> 03:27:22,470
Correct.

2116
03:27:23,070 --> 03:27:23,630
Councilwoman.

2117
03:27:24,210 --> 03:27:24,370
All right.

2118
03:27:24,530 --> 03:27:24,770
Thank you.

2119
03:27:30,250 --> 03:27:30,650
Thank you.

2120
03:27:30,750 --> 03:27:31,870
Anyone else wish to speak?

2121
03:27:37,090 --> 03:27:38,210
Councilmember Shake.

2122
03:27:39,010 --> 03:27:39,370
Thank you, Mayor.

2123
03:27:41,570 --> 03:27:45,290
If I can get some information, we have eight ambulances.

2124
03:27:45,590 --> 03:27:46,130
Am I correct?

2125
03:27:46,950 --> 03:27:47,810
The city?

2126
03:27:49,290 --> 03:27:49,810
Chief Jimmy.

2127
03:27:53,550 --> 03:27:54,290
Eight ambulances.

2128
03:27:55,310 --> 03:27:57,490
Some are full-time, some are peaked.

2129
03:27:57,950 --> 03:28:01,230
But due to the increase in total call load.

2130
03:28:01,230 --> 03:28:07,450
And which correlates to an increase in EMS calls, correlates to more transports.

2131
03:28:07,490 --> 03:28:11,070
And we have an immediate need to upstaff an additional ambulance.

2132
03:28:11,770 --> 03:28:14,950
That's why we're requesting to buy a pre-owned ambulance.

2133
03:28:14,950 --> 03:28:21,870
It's going to take us two years just to backlog, just to get a new ambulance to keep up with what we're doing today.

2134
03:28:22,830 --> 03:28:28,210
And also to add some resiliency, excuse me, to resiliency in case these things are running all the time.

2135
03:28:28,210 --> 03:28:32,030
from the tender break and go on the shop, so we need a little bit of backup.

2136
03:28:32,550 --> 03:28:40,410
If I may, the Councilman Griffiths point a lot of transparency manager, it's a high turnover position.

2137
03:28:40,950 --> 03:28:46,330
The ambulance operator, most of his individuals aim to become permanent firefighter paramedics.

2138
03:28:46,750 --> 03:28:53,490
And as such, should we experience fluctuation or potentially decrease in the number of transports,

2139
03:28:53,490 --> 03:29:03,150
We can easily adjust the numbers moving forward because I feel confident that based on the turnover will be able to downsize.

2140
03:29:03,450 --> 03:29:18,470
And one other factor that was shared in the committee and will be more than happy to bring back a much more defined ambulance update to the committee and the community is the fact that because of the challenges in the private ambulance transport model.

2141
03:29:18,470 --> 03:29:25,050
No other cities are considering going down the path of what Torrance has done, implementing their own transport.

2142
03:29:25,510 --> 03:29:27,530
And that's pushing the demand on the staffing.

2143
03:29:28,130 --> 03:29:32,110
But this is a highly turnover position that we feel confident we can adjust.

2144
03:29:32,530 --> 03:29:32,770
Thank you.

2145
03:29:34,030 --> 03:29:34,750
Thank you.

2146
03:29:38,970 --> 03:29:40,490
I don't see any other names.

2147
03:29:40,790 --> 03:29:48,610
I'd like to move that we accept items one, three, four, five, six, seven, and eight.

2148
03:29:48,610 --> 03:29:51,590
and we'll leave item two for a second motion.

2149
03:29:58,520 --> 03:29:58,800
Second.

2150
03:30:04,180 --> 03:30:05,240
Start voting, please.

2151
03:30:07,970 --> 03:30:10,490
Your Honor, that motion carried with Mayor Cheneppment.

2152
03:30:14,000 --> 03:30:17,480
Okay, we're looking for a second motion regarding item two.

2153
03:30:19,820 --> 03:30:26,920
I mean, I'm to. I move that we approve item two. Second.

2154
03:30:38,300 --> 03:30:39,180
Start voting, please.

2155
03:30:42,520 --> 03:30:46,140
Your Honor, that motion carries with council member groups abstaining and Mayor Cheneppment.

2156
03:30:50,280 --> 03:30:57,680
Okay, thank you. We're now moving on to item nine, aye, from the city manager. Is there a staff presentation? Yes, Your Honor.

2157
03:30:57,680 --> 03:31:00,900
Good evening, Honorable Mayor, Pro Tem and Members of City Council,

2158
03:31:01,100 --> 03:31:03,760
Viet Wong City Manager's Office on behalf of Jamie Lay.

2159
03:31:04,540 --> 03:31:08,900
Item 9-I is a recommendation to the City Manager that your Honourable Body extend and expand the

2160
03:31:08,900 --> 03:31:13,640
Torrance Police Department lateral and retention incentives in the amount of $1,000,000,000.

2161
03:31:14,780 --> 03:31:22,120
Approval of this item will allow for lateral incentives to be distributed based on the number of police officer vacancies.

2162
03:31:22,120 --> 03:31:29,140
The lock also extend the Patrol double time pilot program to December 21, 2023, and approve

2163
03:31:29,140 --> 03:31:34,000
side letter agreements between the Torrance Police Commanders Association and Management

2164
03:31:34,000 --> 03:31:39,120
and Torrance Police Officers Association and Management in accordance with the programs.

2165
03:31:39,780 --> 03:31:48,380
Subsequent to the Agenda Item Posting Council members, the request that staff provide a month-by-month

2166
03:31:48,380 --> 03:31:56,080
analysis on actual use or projected use, which is supplemental number one that is attached to this item.

2167
03:31:56,820 --> 03:32:11,420
Additionally, Councilman Shakehead requested information about why 2022-23 expenditures versus 23-24-23-24 were actually about 50% greater than 22-23.

2168
03:32:11,420 --> 03:32:25,080
And as the supplemental item will note, it's due because vacations are often in July and August, which significantly increased the double time rate and staff is available for questions.

2169
03:32:25,600 --> 03:32:25,980
Thank you.

2170
03:32:27,200 --> 03:32:28,220
Thank you.

2171
03:32:28,700 --> 03:32:31,560
Do we have any comments or questions from council

2172
03:32:33,640 --> 03:32:35,000
members?

2173
03:32:35,300 --> 03:32:36,200
Thank you, Mayor.

2174
03:32:36,200 --> 03:32:39,700
I just want to thank you for the staff for providing me on the detail.

2175
03:32:39,980 --> 03:32:43,220
I think I asked a lot of questions.

2176
03:32:43,440 --> 03:32:46,880
Thank you to the staff and Jane and all the staff.

2177
03:32:47,520 --> 03:32:54,360
I really dig deep into, just to understand why there's a jump about 50% from last year to this year.

2178
03:32:54,600 --> 03:33:00,680
And thank you for providing me enough information to make my decision on that.

2179
03:33:01,120 --> 03:33:01,380
Thank you.

2180
03:33:04,290 --> 03:33:05,990
Thank you, Councilmember Matucci.

2181
03:33:06,690 --> 03:33:07,950
Thank you. I'm here for time.

2182
03:33:07,950 --> 03:33:18,910
I just want to point out the fact that laterals are very beneficial to the city because we don't have to train, pay during the training and also pay for the training.

2183
03:33:19,770 --> 03:33:34,170
So a lateral basically means that you go from one department into ours and literally jumping, not literally, but jumping up patrol unit, quite, quite faster than having to go through the whole system.

2184
03:33:34,990 --> 03:33:36,530
But I just wanted to point that out.

2185
03:33:36,530 --> 03:33:39,630
Thank you, sir.

2186
03:33:40,090 --> 03:33:41,250
Anyone else from the council?

2187
03:33:42,750 --> 03:33:44,250
We'll take it to the public.

2188
03:33:44,590 --> 03:33:46,710
Is there anyone that would like to speak on this matter?

2189
03:33:55,520 --> 03:34:01,620
James Henry, I'm looking at the funding on this agenda item.

2190
03:34:01,980 --> 03:34:06,060
One million, $50,000 coming from the General Fund.

2191
03:34:06,900 --> 03:34:10,840
Is there any other way to fund this other than the General Fund?

2192
03:34:13,590 --> 03:34:14,630
Anybody answer that question?

2193
03:34:14,630 --> 03:34:19,910
Good evening, Mayor Council, Sheila Poisson, the Finance Director.

2194
03:34:20,650 --> 03:34:26,030
These incentives are being funded by vacancies in the police department, which I think are

2195
03:34:26,030 --> 03:34:35,690
regarding around 38 or so, and they're projected to incur, not incur, they're projected to save about $7 million from vacancies alone.

2196
03:34:37,510 --> 03:34:39,090
This year, this year.

2197
03:34:43,710 --> 03:34:44,910
Thank you, anyone else?

2198
03:34:51,190 --> 03:34:57,790
Hello, this is Andy Portia, again, believe it or not, but I'm for this item because you

2199
03:34:57,790 --> 03:35:03,990
were begging for extra tax money for safety and police protection, and here we go, you

2200
03:35:03,990 --> 03:35:10,710
are spending the money on police and protection because we need it, you know, things are getting

2201
03:35:10,710 --> 03:35:15,930
worse out on the street especially when you're going to be forced to be traveling the past,

2202
03:35:15,930 --> 03:35:23,790
you know, and we need more police officers. We need more police officers and they have to be paid

2203
03:35:23,790 --> 03:35:32,570
well because like Sergeant Steeler traveling every shift to from Corona. That's a long way in

2204
03:35:32,570 --> 03:35:39,270
traffic. Thank God he probably has a car and he doesn't have to take public transportation but I can

2205
03:35:39,270 --> 03:35:41,670
and tell you he goes to the beach to relax,

2206
03:35:43,550 --> 03:35:46,450
because a long commute, you know, a long commute.

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03:35:46,830 --> 03:35:49,010
So we have to pay them so they can afford

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03:35:49,430 --> 03:35:51,850
to have an apartment or buy a house here

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in the city of Torres.

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03:35:55,010 --> 03:35:55,950
Thank you, sir.

2211
03:35:57,190 --> 03:35:58,110
Anyone else?

2212
03:35:59,610 --> 03:36:01,530
Okay, we'll bring it back to the council.

2213
03:36:02,030 --> 03:36:03,630
Is there a motion to concur?

2214
03:36:05,150 --> 03:36:06,650
Oh, have apologize.

2215
03:36:07,330 --> 03:36:07,630
Thank you.

2216
03:36:07,630 --> 03:36:08,850
Yes. Thank you, sir.

2217
03:36:09,930 --> 03:36:11,830
My name is invisible. I'm not.

2218
03:36:11,970 --> 03:36:13,790
No, he clicks in when I'm not watching.

2219
03:36:18,350 --> 03:36:25,610
I just wanted to clarify for the record that we are not using new tax money for this incentive program.

2220
03:36:26,130 --> 03:36:30,330
This is money that is already budgeted for police officers.

2221
03:36:31,430 --> 03:36:36,170
Unfortunately, those police officers aren't here because we have vacancies that we're trying to fill.

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03:36:36,630 --> 03:36:38,330
And that's the whole purpose for this incentive program.

2223
03:36:38,330 --> 03:36:43,770
So we can use that already budgeted money for this purpose, and it costs the taxpayers

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03:36:43,770 --> 03:36:45,670
nothing additional beyond what's already budgeted.

2225
03:36:48,980 --> 03:36:49,480
Thank you, sir.

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03:36:56,240 --> 03:36:56,600
Ms. Luna?

2227
03:36:57,280 --> 03:36:58,680
That is a fantastic observation.

2228
03:36:59,980 --> 03:37:05,820
Council member Griffiths, I am making a motion to approve item 9a to approve the site,

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03:37:06,000 --> 03:37:12,780
I'm sorry, 9i, thank you, 9i, to approve the site letter agreements to extend and expand

2230
03:37:12,780 --> 03:37:15,660
the Torrance Police Department lateral and retention incentives.

2231
03:37:27,290 --> 03:37:28,250
Thank you.

2232
03:37:28,530 --> 03:37:34,590
Now we're moving on to item 9J from the City Manager, is there a staff presentation?

2233
03:37:35,010 --> 03:37:35,650
Thank you, Your Honor.

2234
03:37:35,910 --> 03:37:40,170
Good evening, Mayor Pro Tem and members of City Council, Viet Huang, again, City Manager's

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03:37:40,170 --> 03:37:40,390
office.

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03:37:40,570 --> 03:37:45,450
Item 9J is a recommendation of the City Manager that your honorable body adopt the resolution

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03:37:45,450 --> 03:38:10,830
of mending resolutions for a fire safety management and police safety management in the amount of $58,629, which updates the salary grid for battalion chief and the deputy chief and the fire safety management resolution and the city contribution for employee health insurance and police safety management and fire safety management resolutions and staff is available for any questions.

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03:38:11,270 --> 03:38:11,590
Thank you.

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03:38:11,590 --> 03:38:11,690
of

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any questions or comments from Council?

2241
03:38:20,460 --> 03:38:23,620
I see none, so we'll go to the public for public comment.

2242
03:38:30,180 --> 03:38:31,380
This is poor chap again.

2243
03:38:32,620 --> 03:38:35,060
I like this one because it doesn't say

2244
03:38:35,060 --> 03:38:37,700
from how much to how much we go to, you know,

2245
03:38:38,240 --> 03:38:43,020
because $58,000, it's not that much of a amount,

2246
03:38:43,400 --> 03:38:46,340
but how much is a battalion chief mix?

2247
03:38:48,180 --> 03:38:51,520
400, 450, so he really needs more money.

2248
03:38:52,720 --> 03:38:56,180
He really needs more money, not the workers.

2249
03:38:56,940 --> 03:39:04,000
We don't have bus services because we cannot afford to pay more than minimum wages.

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03:39:05,240 --> 03:39:10,520
But that was the story with that. The ambulance drivers, they don't stay on the job

2251
03:39:10,520 --> 03:39:14,500
because they figure out that they're not going to be firefighters.

2252
03:39:14,980 --> 03:39:17,260
They're just going to work for 20 bucks an hour.

2253
03:39:18,920 --> 03:39:26,820
So, what is the money? Top on this, you know, the $58,000, come on top of what? $400, $450, how much?

2254
03:39:27,540 --> 03:39:29,500
$350, how much?

2255
03:39:32,630 --> 03:39:40,140
Thank you, sir. Is there anyone else that would like to comment on this item?

2256
03:39:42,870 --> 03:39:46,590
We'll bring it back up to the council. I see no other click-ins.

2257
03:39:46,590 --> 03:39:56,350
So would anybody like to take action on this item and may we have a resolution numbers, please?

2258
03:40:02,010 --> 03:40:08,250
I make a motion to accept 9J after reading the title and resolution number.

2259
03:40:13,660 --> 03:40:14,140
Second.

2260
03:40:14,740 --> 03:40:20,460
Your Honor, the first is Resolution No. 23-21, a Resolution of City Council of the City

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03:40:20,460 --> 03:40:29,380
of Torrance, California, amending Resolution No. 2019-84, and Resolution No. 22-18 setting

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03:40:29,380 --> 03:40:34,420
for changes regarding the hours, wages, and working conditions for fire safety management

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03:40:34,420 --> 03:40:43,760
employees effective January 1, 2023. The second is resolution number 2023-22. A resolution

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03:40:43,760 --> 03:40:49,040
of the city council of the city of Torrance, California, and many resolution number 2019-82,

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03:40:49,520 --> 03:40:54,300
setting forth changes regarding the hours, wages, and working conditions for police safety

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03:40:54,300 --> 03:40:57,420
management effective January 1, 2023.

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03:41:02,800 --> 03:41:03,800
Start voting please.

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03:41:08,580 --> 03:41:09,660
Go on to that motion carried

2269
03:41:17,110 --> 03:41:24,250
Thank you. We're now moving on to item 9K from the City Manager. Is there a staff presentation?

2270
03:41:24,610 --> 03:41:29,570
Thank you, Your Honor. Good evening. One last time, Viet Wong City Manager's Office for Jamie Lay.

2271
03:41:29,830 --> 03:41:34,450
Item 9K is a recommendation of the City Manager that City Council adopts a resolution

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03:41:34,450 --> 03:41:41,250
and mending resolution number 2022-144, setting forth wages, hours, and working conditions

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03:41:41,250 --> 03:42:00,410
for certain full-time salary and hourly employees in the amount of $115,627, which updates the salary steps for the position of staff assistant and corrects a typo in the employee insurance, which previously came before your honorable body and staff is available for any questions. Thank you.

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03:42:01,570 --> 03:42:05,130
Thank you, sir. Any questions or comments from the council?

2275
03:42:08,760 --> 03:42:13,120
I see none, so we'll go to public comment. Would anybody like to speak on this item?

2276
03:42:20,180 --> 03:42:26,960
the porch up again. I like this one because you put in here, you know, you go from $22,

2277
03:42:27,560 --> 03:42:36,120
$23 an hour up to $25 an hour. I understand that. I understand that. A little guy needs money.

2278
03:42:36,340 --> 03:42:45,140
You know what I mean? I like this. I like this. So, and this is understandable. You know what I mean?

2279
03:42:45,140 --> 03:42:52,920
but you know I just afraid so everybody gonna get raises again then we have to

2280
03:42:52,920 --> 03:43:00,580
give RM Sheparian a raise you know another $20,000 you know so I don't know people

2281
03:43:00,580 --> 03:43:06,380
know that but he just got a raise again you know and there is a city going to

2282
03:43:06,380 --> 03:43:12,640
bankruptcy you know what I mean so at least the workers get a little raise here

2283
03:43:12,640 --> 03:43:19,540
and I for that one. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Anyone else like to comment on this item?

2284
03:43:23,140 --> 03:43:27,320
Okay, we'll bring it back to the council. I see no other questions or comments from council.

2285
03:43:27,520 --> 03:43:31,280
City clerk may we have a number of title fees and we'll take motion to conclude.

2286
03:43:31,900 --> 03:43:37,840
Yes, Your Honor. This is resolution number 2023-23. A resolution of the City Council of the City of

2287
03:43:53,020 --> 03:43:58,300
I move to Adopt Resolution 2023-23.

2288
03:43:58,480 --> 03:43:59,160
My second.

2289
03:44:01,320 --> 03:44:02,020
Start voting, please.

2290
03:44:09,940 --> 03:44:11,860
Your Honor, that motion carried with Mayor Chen absent.

2291
03:44:14,760 --> 03:44:15,400
Thank you.

2292
03:44:16,160 --> 03:44:17,420
Now is time.

2293
03:44:19,560 --> 03:44:20,780
Now is the time and time.

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03:44:20,780 --> 03:44:26,540
place for a public hearing on agenda item 10a, recommendation of the planning commission

2295
03:44:26,540 --> 03:44:32,640
and the community development director that the city council deny the appeal and adopt

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03:44:32,640 --> 03:44:39,180
a sustainable communities environmental assessment and approve a conditional use permit and

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03:44:39,180 --> 03:44:45,740
development permit to allow the construction of the 200 unit apartment complex and parking

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03:44:45,740 --> 03:44:51,720
structure in conjunction with the modification of a previously approved precise plan of

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03:44:51,720 --> 03:44:58,040
development, pp65-38, and a division of lot to merge two

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03:44:58,040 --> 03:44:59,500
Partial into one

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03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:29,980
On properties located in the H.D.A.1 zone at the northeast corner of Carson Street and Delommal Circle Drive. APNS 7525-023-034 and dash 035. Has this matter been properly advertised? Yes, Your Honor, have. Thank you. And is there a staff presentation? Yes, Your Honor. Good evening, Honorable Mayor.

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Mayor Pro Tem and not members of the City Council. I'm Austin Martinez with the Community Development Department.

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03:45:35,260 --> 03:45:40,360
Tonight we have a presentation regarding the above our heads project, the applicant's request

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03:45:40,360 --> 03:45:45,260
approval for the construction and operation of a 200-unit residential apartment complex

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03:45:45,260 --> 03:45:50,540
with a parking structure and to merge two parcels into one perfect as the Delamal Circle residential

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03:45:50,540 --> 03:45:55,200
apartments project. The project is subject to review and approval of the following land use entitlement.

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03:45:55,740 --> 03:45:59,020
It can initially use permit his report to allow the residential development, residential

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03:45:59,020 --> 03:46:10,600
residential developments above three stories, having more than 100 units, over 27 units to the acre and having a gross floor area over 50,000 square feet, and also to exceed a floor area ratio 1.0.

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The development permit is required because the project proposes new structures within the boundaries of Hawthorne Boulevard of the Hawthorne Boulevard corridor specific plant area.

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The Division of Law is required to allow for lock and

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03:46:22,160 --> 03:46:27,300
delegation purposes, and modification of Pp65-38 is required because the proposed

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03:46:27,300 --> 03:46:30,300
development differs from the original entitlements intent for more office

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03:46:30,300 --> 03:46:31,680
hours. Slight please.

2314
03:46:38,840 --> 03:46:40,700
This presentation will provide a summary of the proposed

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03:46:40,700 --> 03:46:46,020
project that includes location and zoning, site plan, elevations, renderings, site

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03:46:46,020 --> 03:46:50,400
photos, and will conclude with a recommendation to the City Council. Slight please.

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03:46:53,350 --> 03:46:56,670
This slide shows the location and zoning. The subject site highlighted at the

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03:46:56,670 --> 03:47:04,830
center in yellow is L-shaped measures 123,473 square feet or 2.84 acres and located at the

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03:47:04,830 --> 03:47:08,790
northeast corner of Carson Street and the L-Almost Circle Drive. The site is currently developed

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03:47:08,790 --> 03:47:13,150
as a service level parking lot that previously served as a financial center office complex

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03:47:13,150 --> 03:47:18,310
directly to the east. The site immediately adjacent to the site is immediately adjacent to

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03:47:18,310 --> 03:47:22,850
commercial properties with residential to the west adjacent to residential to the west.

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03:47:22,850 --> 03:47:28,810
A JSON commercial uses include major shopping centers, hotels, retail offices, and restaurants.

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03:47:29,690 --> 03:47:34,730
The subject site, as well as those properties shown in blue, are part of the delamo

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03:47:34,730 --> 03:47:37,490
subjects of the Hawthorne Boulevard corridor specific plan.

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03:47:38,430 --> 03:47:42,250
The property is shown in purple to the west and southwest are zone R1.

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03:47:43,210 --> 03:47:43,630
Sly please.

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03:47:46,720 --> 03:47:48,020
This slide shows the Sly plan.

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The proposed project proposes a five-story apartment complex building.

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The building footprint is all shaped and complies with the 20-foot setback requirement.

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03:47:58,540 --> 03:48:07,240
The project proposes 234,928 square feet on a 2.84-acre site for an FAR of up to 1.90.

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03:48:07,920 --> 03:48:13,100
The code allows mixed-use developments to exceed that FAR of 1.0 with approval of the conditional

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03:48:13,100 --> 03:48:13,520
use permit.

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03:48:14,600 --> 03:48:22,400
The project proposes 200 units across 2.84-acre for a total density of 701 units to the HDA

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03:48:22,400 --> 03:48:27,600
one's own allows for unlimited and unlimited density for residential purposes and mixed

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03:48:27,600 --> 03:48:32,300
used projects. The project includes a six and a half level parking structure with rooftop

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03:48:32,300 --> 03:48:38,080
amenity level behind the apartment complex. The structure provides the required 440 parking

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03:48:38,080 --> 03:48:44,680
spaces. Vehicular access is provided via existing driveways on the normal circle drive and

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03:48:44,680 --> 03:48:49,480
Carson Street. The fire road will be modified to connect the Carson Street driveway.

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03:48:49,480 --> 03:48:52,080
slide. This is

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03:48:55,600 --> 03:48:59,580
the South elevation facing Carson Street. At the street level, the apartment

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03:48:59,580 --> 03:49:05,780
complex appears as approximately 57 feet tall to the parapet and approximately 65 feet

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03:49:05,780 --> 03:49:13,200
tall to the stairs tower. The parking structure behind is approximately 75 feet tall. The

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03:49:13,200 --> 03:49:20,240
HDA1 height limit is 200 feet. For reference, the office complex is 12-story. The office complex

2345
03:49:20,240 --> 03:49:26,100
12-story building appears approximately 163 feet tall, and the 5-story building appears

2346
03:49:26,100 --> 03:49:32,000
approximately 64 feet tall, and the incoming senior facility will be approximately 52 feet tall.

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03:49:32,960 --> 03:49:33,500
Slide, please.

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This is a West elevation facing the Lama Circle Drive. The development features

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03:49:40,370 --> 03:49:46,270
modern contemporary style inspired by the neighboring office complex and features varying

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03:49:46,270 --> 03:49:50,630
depth and heights with various compatible exterior materials. Slide, please.

2351
03:49:53,900 --> 03:49:58,300
This is a north elevation of the project, also showing the parking structure,

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03:50:01,380 --> 03:50:01,700
slide

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please.

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03:50:05,020 --> 03:50:07,100
And this is the east elevation of the project,

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03:50:11,230 --> 03:50:11,610
slide please.

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03:50:14,480 --> 03:50:18,940
This rendering of the building is from the intersection of Carson Street and the Alamo

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03:50:18,940 --> 03:50:23,540
Circle Drive, looking east, north, east, really toward the slide from the street level, looking

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03:50:23,540 --> 03:50:23,740
up.

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Slide please.

2360
03:50:28,980 --> 03:50:32,620
This is another vantage point of the rendering, still looking north, east, really up

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03:50:32,620 --> 03:50:33,900
from the sky level, looking down.

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Slide

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please.

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This photograph was taken looking north towards the subject site across from Carson Street.

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Slide please.

2366
03:50:51,050 --> 03:50:55,550
This photograph was taken from the subject property looking south. Slide please.

2367
03:50:58,640 --> 03:51:01,760
And this is a street view looking east at the subject site.

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03:51:05,310 --> 03:51:05,830
Slide please.

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03:51:07,350 --> 03:51:10,110
And this is looking west along Carson Street as well.

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03:51:12,460 --> 03:51:13,180
Slide please.

2371
03:51:13,180 --> 03:51:19,380
This photograph was taken looking east toward the subject site from across the

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03:51:19,380 --> 03:51:20,180
Alonso Circle Drive.

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03:51:21,720 --> 03:51:22,540
Slight please.

2374
03:51:23,920 --> 03:51:27,480
This was from the subject property looking west.

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03:51:30,040 --> 03:51:30,520
Slight please.

2376
03:51:33,050 --> 03:51:37,310
And this is looking north from the project site along the Alonso Circle.

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03:51:41,000 --> 03:51:41,640
And it's light please.

2378
03:51:45,340 --> 03:51:48,300
And this is looking south along the project site.

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03:51:52,160 --> 03:51:52,620
Slight please.

2380
03:51:53,760 --> 03:51:57,060
In closing remarks, the recommendation of planning commission and the community

2381
03:51:57,060 --> 03:52:01,380
of all the director is that the City Council denies the appeal, adopt the Sustainable

2382
03:52:01,380 --> 03:52:05,640
Communities Environmental Assessment, and adopt resolutions approving the project as

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03:52:05,640 --> 03:52:10,080
condition. With that said, thank you Honorable Mayor of Proton and members of the City Council

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03:52:10,080 --> 03:52:13,200
for your time, and that concludes staff's presentation and is available for questions.

2385
03:52:15,460 --> 03:52:21,080
Thank you so much for your presentation. At this time, is there anybody on the council that has

2386
03:52:21,080 --> 03:52:23,480
any comments or questions for staff?

2387
03:52:29,040 --> 03:52:32,000
I see none. We'll go ahead and go to the public for public comment,

2388
03:52:32,000 --> 03:52:33,340
Hi,

2389
03:52:38,370 --> 03:52:46,510
I'm Laurie Craig. I'm president of the Southwood Homeowners Association and I just wanted to speak about the legacy partner project.

2390
03:52:47,250 --> 03:52:54,730
So legacy partners of representatives have been in contact with the Association Board since about late 2021.

2391
03:52:56,330 --> 03:53:01,510
And in addition to participating in meetings with us board members,

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03:53:01,510 --> 03:53:09,070
Legacy has hosted two community meetings that were announced in our newsletter as well as on our social media platforms.

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03:53:10,130 --> 03:53:20,370
We have not received any objections to the project from Southwood residents, and we have appreciated the Legacy's outreach efforts throughout the planning process.

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03:53:22,230 --> 03:53:22,790
That's it.

2395
03:53:28,710 --> 03:53:30,850
Javier Goudino.

2396
03:53:33,640 --> 03:53:37,680
Good evening councilmembers, my name is Javier Goudino, from the Southwest,

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03:53:38,540 --> 03:53:40,720
Mountain State's Regional Council of Carpenters.

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03:53:42,120 --> 03:53:48,080
I live and work in the area, ask you guys to consider developers of this project to use

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03:53:48,080 --> 03:53:53,920
responsible contractor, the hires, people that live in the area, and they use apprentices

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03:53:54,380 --> 03:53:56,400
from a state-approved apprenticeship program.

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03:53:56,400 --> 03:54:01,020
I graduated from an apprenticeship program and it has been a thing being tremendously.

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03:54:02,180 --> 03:54:10,020
Not only to provide for my family but it also made me a productive citizen of the society.

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03:54:11,120 --> 03:54:17,200
So that's why I feel it's imperative for them to get more apprentices from the apprenticeship

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03:54:17,200 --> 03:54:25,880
program to contribute to this society and this program has given me a lot of skills and

2405
03:54:25,880 --> 03:54:29,360
And a lot of pride to be able to build buildings, to build America,

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03:54:30,020 --> 03:54:33,660
actually work that the Dalamo Fashion Center a few years back.

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So every time I pass by there, it's something that I'm very proud of.

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03:54:38,060 --> 03:54:39,640
Thank you for listening to me.

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03:54:40,960 --> 03:54:41,780
Ray Lawson.

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03:54:44,260 --> 03:54:46,360
Good evening, Torrent City Council members.

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03:54:47,000 --> 03:54:52,860
My name is Ray Lawson, and I'm also a member of the Southwest Mountain State Regional Council Carboners.

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03:54:52,860 --> 03:55:01,280
We have over 4,000 members that live and work right here in the South Bay and hundreds

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03:55:01,280 --> 03:55:03,660
of our members that live in the city of Torrance.

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03:55:04,240 --> 03:55:08,840
And our brothers and sisters here that were here earlier, you see a lot of family, a

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03:55:08,840 --> 03:55:09,520
lot of children.

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03:55:09,840 --> 03:55:12,620
They had to leave because some of them had to go to work and take care of their families.

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But all we desire is that you consider hiring the developer hire as a responsible contractor

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that pays a livable wage, a prevailing wage.

2419
03:55:25,440 --> 03:55:28,020
You know, we hear all the financial turmoil

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that could be happening in the country.

2421
03:55:30,140 --> 03:55:34,980
So yeah, we're concerned livable wage means

2422
03:55:34,980 --> 03:55:37,920
that being able to take care of their families,

2423
03:55:38,100 --> 03:55:40,560
being able to one day own a home,

2424
03:55:41,960 --> 03:55:43,520
being able to like, have you ever just said,

2425
03:55:44,340 --> 03:55:46,640
becoming a apprentice and learning,

2426
03:55:46,640 --> 03:55:50,660
a skill trade, to take advantage of some of the great things that Torrance offers.

2427
03:55:52,490 --> 03:55:55,360
Our brothers and sisters would like to have that opportunity.

2428
03:55:56,640 --> 03:56:04,740
So with that, we would like to just ask that you consider putting that into the plan,

2429
03:56:04,740 --> 03:56:12,140
moving forward, that they use a responsible contractor that pays a livable wage and that

2430
03:56:12,140 --> 03:56:19,040
It has health care and it uses a apprenticeship so young people can one day be able to own

2431
03:56:19,040 --> 03:56:21,500
a home right here in the city of Torrance.

2432
03:56:22,080 --> 03:56:27,020
So we thank you for your time just to consider that for the future.

2433
03:56:27,680 --> 03:56:28,040
Thank you.

2434
03:56:30,200 --> 03:56:31,160
Thank you, sir.

2435
03:56:31,900 --> 03:56:38,540
Your animal mayor, council members, we would request that the appellent actually go first.

2436
03:56:38,540 --> 03:56:44,740
We apologize the script did not, did not lay that out, but if we could call the appellant

2437
03:56:44,740 --> 03:56:50,200
up so that they can then do their case and have their allowable time.

2438
03:56:50,860 --> 03:56:51,120
Okay.

2439
03:56:51,320 --> 03:56:51,680
Thank you.

2440
03:56:51,880 --> 03:56:55,300
And I'd like to just bring it back to the Council just for one moment.

2441
03:56:55,600 --> 03:57:00,620
I would like to disclose that I did speak with the developer on two separate occasions.

2442
03:57:01,300 --> 03:57:05,720
I also went out and walked the side and spoke with community members about this project

2443
03:57:05,720 --> 03:57:06,240
as well.

2444
03:57:06,240 --> 03:57:11,160
However, I will make my decision based upon the items that have been presented.

2445
03:57:11,500 --> 03:57:11,900
Thank you.

2446
03:57:16,560 --> 03:57:27,380
And the appellant would be Safer to say, you know, the name of the appellant is, say, Supporters, Alliance for Environmental Responsibility.

2447
03:57:28,060 --> 03:57:28,760
Okay, thank you.

2448
03:57:32,560 --> 03:57:34,600
Council member Lewis, I'm sorry.

2449
03:57:34,800 --> 03:57:37,400
I just have one quick question for I do a disclosure.

2450
03:57:37,400 --> 03:57:45,060
or can the gentleman who came up to speak about carpentry, you said your name so fast until I got Southwest

2451
03:57:45,060 --> 03:57:48,040
mountain, something, something, could someone repeat that for me?

2452
03:57:51,360 --> 03:57:55,760
Southwest mountain states, regional council of carpenters.

2453
03:57:56,120 --> 03:57:57,180
Okay, that's a lot. Thank you.

2454
03:57:57,420 --> 03:57:57,980
It's a mouthful.

2455
03:57:58,640 --> 03:58:00,060
At least, at least I'm clear.

2456
03:58:00,800 --> 03:58:07,100
Also, I have the same disclosure as council member Kalani, almost the same exact thing.

2457
03:58:07,100 --> 03:58:13,200
I did meet with legacy partners on this project a couple of times I've walked the site several

2458
03:58:13,200 --> 03:58:20,880
times just so I can recollect what it's going to look like in that area and so I just want

2459
03:58:20,880 --> 03:58:24,280
to be reflected on record. Thank you.

2460
03:58:25,000 --> 03:58:26,900
Council member Griffiths.

2461
03:58:26,900 --> 03:58:33,400
Yow to disclose I've met with the developer twice, I've walked the site, I've talked to some

2462
03:58:33,400 --> 03:58:38,820
people in the community on this, but my decisions are based on the information I hear tonight.

2463
03:58:39,060 --> 03:58:39,320
Thank you.

2464
03:58:40,240 --> 03:58:40,820
Thank you.

2465
03:58:40,960 --> 03:58:41,960
Councilmember Matucci.

2466
03:58:43,680 --> 03:58:44,160
Yes.

2467
03:58:44,340 --> 03:58:44,700
Same here.

2468
03:58:44,820 --> 03:58:49,960
Met with the developers, met with some residents, and I have walked the sites a couple times,

2469
03:58:50,620 --> 03:58:57,600
including to pick up some trash, but yeah, I'll make my decisions based on what we have tonight.

2470
03:58:58,020 --> 03:58:58,440
Presentation.

2471
03:58:58,620 --> 03:58:58,880
Thank you.

2472
03:58:59,560 --> 03:58:59,960
Thank you.

2473
03:59:00,060 --> 03:59:00,980
Councilmember Kaji.

2474
03:59:00,980 --> 03:59:05,960
My comments are the same as my fellow members.

2475
03:59:06,300 --> 03:59:07,860
I've met with a developer twice.

2476
03:59:08,700 --> 03:59:12,100
I've toured the site on my own and have talked to some residents.

2477
03:59:12,820 --> 03:59:15,740
My decision will also be based on what I hear tonight.

2478
03:59:15,900 --> 03:59:16,180
Thank you.

2479
03:59:17,140 --> 03:59:19,140
Thank you, sir, and Council Membership.

2480
03:59:20,000 --> 03:59:20,340
Thank you, Mayor.

2481
03:59:20,480 --> 03:59:26,480
I also like to disclose that I did meet with the developer, and I did speak with some of

2482
03:59:26,480 --> 03:59:26,960
the residents.

2483
03:59:26,960 --> 03:59:32,260
I visited the property a couple times, but my decision will be based on the material presented.

2484
03:59:32,260 --> 03:59:42,380
Thank you, and thank you to the public for understanding that the opponent is deserving

2485
03:59:42,380 --> 03:59:43,920
of some time to speak.

2486
03:59:44,280 --> 03:59:45,040
Go ahead, sir, please.

2487
03:59:46,680 --> 03:59:47,820
Good evening, Council.

2488
03:59:48,000 --> 03:59:48,400
Thank you.

2489
03:59:48,760 --> 03:59:49,900
My name is Adam Frankl.

2490
03:59:50,020 --> 03:59:53,780
I'm an attorney with the Environmental Law firm, Loso Jury, LLP.

2491
03:59:54,580 --> 03:59:59,020
I'm here, as was mentioned, on behalf of Supporters Alliance for Environmental Responsibility

2492
03:59:59,020 --> 03:59:59,940
or say

2493
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:29,900
Safer respectfully requests that the city refrain from approving the Sustainable Community Environmental Assessment or SKEA, because the project fails to follow CEQA, the California Environmental Quality Act's requirements for its use, for the use of its streamlined environmental review procedures. CEQA is clear that SKEA is only appropriate where, quote, all feasible mitigation measures, performance standards, or criteria set forth in the prior applicable

2494
04:00:29,900 --> 04:00:33,360
Environmental Impact Reports are applied to the project.

2495
04:00:34,000 --> 04:00:40,800
However, the SKEA before you today fails to adopt all feasible mitigation measures from the applicable EIR,

2496
04:00:41,080 --> 04:00:47,920
in this case, the Southern California Association of Governments 2020 Connect SoCal Program EIR.

2497
04:00:48,500 --> 04:00:53,760
In fact, the SKEA includes only one mitigation measure to reduce air quality impacts,

2498
04:00:53,760 --> 04:01:00,140
But it fails to implement other feasible mitigation measures included in the 2020 program EIR,

2499
04:01:00,440 --> 04:01:03,420
which would further reduce the project's air quality impacts.

2500
04:01:04,020 --> 04:01:08,540
The SKEA justifies this oversight by claiming that the project will have a less than significant

2501
04:01:08,540 --> 04:01:09,900
impact on air quality.

2502
04:01:10,480 --> 04:01:15,380
But even if a project is shown to have a less than significant impact under SKEA, it is still

2503
04:01:15,380 --> 04:01:20,580
required to implement all feasible mitigation measures from the applicable program EIR.

2504
04:01:21,300 --> 04:01:26,420
For instance, the SKEA fails to mandate the use of Tier IV construction equipment.

2505
04:01:26,920 --> 04:01:31,960
Tier IV is an emission standard set by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, which

2506
04:01:31,960 --> 04:01:38,440
reduces the effects of harmful diesel particulate matter emissions as much as 90%.

2507
04:01:38,440 --> 04:01:44,880
The 2020 program EIR lists the use of Tier IV final equipment as a feasible mitigation measure,

2508
04:01:45,060 --> 04:01:49,180
meaning that the SKEA must and is required to implement it for this project.

2509
04:01:49,180 --> 04:01:59,200
However, it fails to implement it as a mandated mitigation measure thus providing no assurance that the use of tier 4 equipment will be mandated for project construction.

2510
04:02:00,400 --> 04:02:09,760
Separately, Safer's indoor air quality expert found an excess cancer risk resulting from the use of formaldehyde in indoor building materials throughout the project.

2511
04:02:09,760 --> 04:02:15,820
This analysis assumes compliance with the California Air Resources Board regulations and

2512
04:02:15,820 --> 04:02:20,360
recognizes that the project will be subject to current building code ventilation standards.

2513
04:02:21,040 --> 04:02:22,880
Even with these assumptions, however,

2514
04:02:23,460 --> 04:02:28,660
Safer's expert Mr. Offerman found that off-gassing of formaldehyde from indoor building materials

2515
04:02:28,660 --> 04:02:37,520
will result in an excess cancer risk to future residents above the South Coast Air Quality Management District's health risk significance threshold.

2516
04:02:37,520 --> 04:02:49,500
The city must properly incorporate all feasible mitigation measures from the program EIR and must also further mitigate the significant indoor air quality impact resulting from formaldehyde emissions.

2517
04:02:50,080 --> 04:03:00,180
Otherwise, the city cannot properly use ASCIA for this project and must instead prepare an initial study to determine the appropriate level of environmental review that is required.

2518
04:03:00,580 --> 04:03:00,880
Thank you.

2519
04:03:05,720 --> 04:03:09,740
Thank you. And now would the applicant like to comment please?

2520
04:03:09,740 --> 04:03:11,000
Good

2521
04:03:14,880 --> 04:03:20,500
evening, Mayor Pro Tem, Colony and City Council members, Tim O'Brien with Legacy Partners.

2522
04:03:21,120 --> 04:03:26,580
First, I'd like to thank Oscar Martinez and the planning staff and city staff for their efforts

2523
04:03:26,580 --> 04:03:28,560
through this review process.

2524
04:03:29,040 --> 04:03:35,300
As many of you know, we've been planning this project for over 18 months.

2525
04:03:36,020 --> 04:03:43,040
This planning effort started with meetings with Council, planning staff and the community

2526
04:03:43,040 --> 04:03:47,680
We prior to any submittal formal submittal to the city.

2527
04:03:48,140 --> 04:03:57,160
We continued our outreach to both the Southwood Homeowners Association and the Torrance Business Community throughout our planning review process.

2528
04:03:57,760 --> 04:04:03,480
And we're pleased to be in front of you with the support of the Southwood community planning staff and

2529
04:04:03,480 --> 04:04:06,820
an unanimous approval from your planning commission.

2530
04:04:06,820 --> 04:04:16,420
In light of the time and the late hour, I'd like to turn over the mic to Dale Goldsmith, our attorney who's going to

2531
04:04:16,420 --> 04:04:25,440
re-bet the safer comments, and then if we have time and if you have interest, our architect is here that can do a brief

2532
04:04:25,440 --> 04:04:31,660
presentation of the project to give you a better feel for how we conceive the project. Thank you.

2533
04:04:34,420 --> 04:04:35,240
Thank you, Tim.

2534
04:04:35,400 --> 04:04:36,880
Good evening, Honorable Council members.

2535
04:04:37,100 --> 04:04:38,160
My name is Dale Goldsmith.

2536
04:04:38,340 --> 04:04:42,480
I'm a partner with the law firm of A.G.D., representing the applicant.

2537
04:04:42,740 --> 04:04:46,320
I'd like to respond briefly to some of the points raised by the appellant this evening.

2538
04:04:47,120 --> 04:04:51,500
First, the appellant maintained that the sustainable communities, environmental assessment,

2539
04:04:51,600 --> 04:04:58,820
or SKIA, had to adopt verbatim each and every mitigation measure in the program E.I.R. for

2540
04:04:58,820 --> 04:05:01,480
scags, RTP, SCS.

2541
04:05:02,560 --> 04:05:07,480
That argument has been thoroughly refuted by placeworks who prepared the skia in their

2542
04:05:07,480 --> 04:05:12,640
response to comment memos dated February 1 and of today's date, which responded to

2543
04:05:12,640 --> 04:05:15,260
the late letter from the appellance submitted yesterday.

2544
04:05:16,440 --> 04:05:23,180
Saga, or the Southern California Association of Governors, prepared and certified the program

2545
04:05:23,180 --> 04:05:28,420
I.R., but it does not require implementation of each and every mitigation measure, but rather

2546
04:05:28,420 --> 04:05:34,640
gives the city, as lead agency in this case, the discretion to select those measures that are

2547
04:05:34,640 --> 04:05:40,980
feasible and appropriate for each individual project. Chapter 4 of the Skiah discusses the

2548
04:05:40,980 --> 04:05:46,160
Skiag mitigation measures that apply to the project, the applicable regulations that supersede

2549
04:05:46,160 --> 04:05:52,360
these mitigation measures and then rendering them not applicable, and we're appropriate where there's

2550
04:05:52,360 --> 04:05:57,700
potential project impact, the specific mitigation measures that would apply to reduce that impact.

2551
04:05:58,360 --> 04:06:03,580
Will the SKIA's mitigation measures may not be carbon copies of those mitigation measures

2552
04:06:03,580 --> 04:06:09,160
in the SCAGIR, the SKIA incorporates elements of these measures where feasible and appropriate,

2553
04:06:09,580 --> 04:06:15,120
and the SKIA also includes project specific measures as necessary to reduce all potential

2554
04:06:15,120 --> 04:06:17,780
impacts of the project to less than significant.

2555
04:06:18,440 --> 04:06:29,960
Under Secret Guidelines Section 15126.4A3, mitigation measures can only be required where a project has a significant impact.

2556
04:06:30,100 --> 04:06:32,600
There needs to be a nexus. Seek was very clear on that.

2557
04:06:33,260 --> 04:06:39,040
The appellant would turn Seek on its head and say you have to have every single mitigation measure whether necessary or not.

2558
04:06:39,340 --> 04:06:42,420
That just isn't the law and it's never been the law.

2559
04:06:42,420 --> 04:06:47,760
The scheme does not require mitigation measures from the program that are either not needed

2560
04:06:47,760 --> 04:06:49,420
to avoid a significant impact.

2561
04:06:49,940 --> 04:06:54,140
The appellant specifically mentioned the use of Tier IV equipment during construction,

2562
04:06:54,480 --> 04:06:58,480
legacy has always planned to use Tier IV equipment because it's the right thing to do,

2563
04:06:58,580 --> 04:07:00,660
not because it's necessary to mitigate an impact.

2564
04:07:01,340 --> 04:07:04,940
And the, as I said forth in the supplemental staff report issued today,

2565
04:07:05,500 --> 04:07:10,160
we were volunteering a condition, an additional condition we're approval to reflect

2566
04:07:10,160 --> 04:07:15,140
the use of that equipment, and we would respectfully request that if you, that when you deny

2567
04:07:15,140 --> 04:07:18,760
the appeal, which we hope you will, that you add that additional condition to approval

2568
04:07:18,760 --> 04:07:24,700
to ensure that it will be enforceable, and it will confirm legacy's commitment.

2569
04:07:25,380 --> 04:07:30,740
The appellant also argues that the project will result in its significant health risk to future

2570
04:07:30,740 --> 04:07:33,700
tenants due to formaldehyde and building materials.

2571
04:07:34,100 --> 04:07:38,960
This claim, like the other claims, has been thoroughly refuted by qualified experts

2572
04:07:38,960 --> 04:07:47,800
from place works, who paired this year, and their response to comment documents dated February 1, February 16, and March 14.

2573
04:07:48,640 --> 04:07:58,820
The appeal relies on general articles assessing formaldehyde in single-family homes built to comply with the 2008 version of the California Title 24 standards.

2574
04:07:59,300 --> 04:08:08,700
These findings are simply not applicable to the project, which does not include any single-family homes, and will be built to the most current Title 24 standards, which are much more stringent.

2575
04:08:08,700 --> 04:08:14,560
For example, the 2019 version of the Title 24 standards include new ventilation requirements

2576
04:08:14,560 --> 04:08:17,900
that improve air quality and protect residents from air pollution,

2577
04:08:18,300 --> 04:08:21,600
originating from both outdoor and indoor sources.

2578
04:08:22,280 --> 04:08:27,980
The appeal is also based on flawed assumptions, including an incorrect and inaccurate exposure frequency,

2579
04:08:28,360 --> 04:08:32,780
which is a technical variable that's necessary to calculate true impacts.

2580
04:08:33,200 --> 04:08:36,200
And also breathing rates, the faster you breathe, the more you breathe,

2581
04:08:36,200 --> 04:08:41,600
the more likely you would get, you would bring in pollutants, they just got it wrong.

2582
04:08:42,500 --> 04:08:46,700
The analysis also unrealistically assumes that future tenants will live,

2583
04:08:47,220 --> 04:08:53,020
will be actually not only live, but will be in their units for 70 years, 24 hours a day.

2584
04:08:53,120 --> 04:08:54,280
That's simply not realistic.

2585
04:08:54,920 --> 04:08:58,940
And it also overstates formaldehyde concentrations in units.

2586
04:09:00,260 --> 04:09:05,020
And therefore, the assessment of the health risks in the appeal are wild and

2587
04:09:05,020 --> 04:09:08,500
inaccurate and are not credible evidence of a significant impact.

2588
04:09:08,900 --> 04:09:13,160
In addition, as set forth in the response to comments, there are stringent

2589
04:09:13,160 --> 04:09:17,500
carb regulations and state regulations that limit the amount of formaldehyde.

2590
04:09:17,720 --> 04:09:23,660
All the literature published on that confirms that it's effective in reducing the

2591
04:09:23,660 --> 04:09:25,440
amount of formaldehyde off-gassing.

2592
04:09:25,900 --> 04:09:31,860
So therefore, impacts will be less insignificant and the appellant, the appellant's

2593
04:09:31,860 --> 04:09:33,280
arguments are without any merit.

2594
04:09:33,280 --> 04:09:38,200
We were therefore respectfully request that you reject the appeal, uphold these planning

2595
04:09:38,200 --> 04:09:42,240
conditions unanimous approval of the project with that one additional condition of approval.

2596
04:09:42,420 --> 04:09:43,860
I'm available for any questions you may have.

2597
04:09:44,040 --> 04:09:44,920
Thank you for your consideration.

2598
04:09:57,040 --> 04:09:58,760
Could you put the slides back up, please?

2599
04:10:01,180 --> 04:10:01,720
Thank you.

2600
04:10:01,800 --> 04:10:03,200
Good evening, my name's R. C. Alley.

2601
04:10:03,460 --> 04:10:05,500
I'm an architect with Architects Orange.

2602
04:10:06,780 --> 04:10:07,540
Next slide, please.

2603
04:10:08,960 --> 04:10:12,480
Just to give you a little history, I'll just do a very brief run through on the project.

2604
04:10:12,480 --> 04:10:20,420
Right, you can see on the slide up on the left is the Dom of Financial Center when it was built in 1967.

2605
04:10:21,520 --> 04:10:25,540
It was a fantastic project then and it's a fantastic project today.

2606
04:10:26,580 --> 04:10:29,420
On the right, you can see a current photo of it.

2607
04:10:29,820 --> 04:10:32,760
It was refurbished recently.

2608
04:10:33,420 --> 04:10:40,580
It won a Tobi Award for Historic Buildings in 2022.

2609
04:10:42,060 --> 04:10:42,800
Next, please.

2610
04:10:44,620 --> 04:10:49,400
Context. Whenever we look at a project, we always look at everything in context to it.

2611
04:10:49,540 --> 04:10:53,240
So we looked at everything around five-minute walk, 10-mile drive.

2612
04:10:54,000 --> 04:10:57,900
And we really looked at everything to really try to understand who our residents would be,

2613
04:10:58,000 --> 04:11:02,800
and what we should be designing the project, and how to make it serve our residents best.

2614
04:11:03,440 --> 04:11:12,260
next, please. Community. Again, you can see the site. This really shows our site

2615
04:11:12,260 --> 04:11:18,140
location, shows where we're at in the community. Jason to, again, to the historic

2616
04:11:18,140 --> 04:11:25,560
buildings on the Delomo Circle, a Delomo Crossing project. Next, please. Not

2617
04:11:25,560 --> 04:11:30,820
sure how long I have left, so I'll just keep talking to you, buzz me off. You can see

2618
04:11:30,820 --> 04:11:39,080
the site in orange, again, you can see it in proximity to Delano Fashion Center, restaurants, shopping,

2619
04:11:39,960 --> 04:11:45,680
everything you could possibly want, office buildings, a million square feet of office buildings next door.

2620
04:11:47,180 --> 04:11:47,700
Next, please.

2621
04:11:49,900 --> 04:11:57,800
This is our site, I'll just tell you briefly, it is a wrap project, it's a very contemporary way to design an apartment project.

2622
04:11:57,800 --> 04:12:05,060
It's really the building is laminated and wrapped around a above-grade parking structure that's encased in the building.

2623
04:12:05,460 --> 04:12:11,120
So if you live on the fifth floor, you drive up to the fifth floor, you park there, you walk to your unit.

2624
04:12:11,800 --> 04:12:12,840
It's very convenient.

2625
04:12:13,560 --> 04:12:14,840
It's been very well accepted.

2626
04:12:15,000 --> 04:12:17,360
There are hundreds of these projects now built in California.

2627
04:12:18,140 --> 04:12:26,140
You can see in the center of the roof deck on the parking structure and the main entrance for the parking structure is down at the lower level.

2628
04:12:26,140 --> 04:12:30,920
if you've been to the site you notice it's tiered down and the lower loop road is where

2629
04:12:30,920 --> 04:12:32,460
our parking structure is entered.

2630
04:12:34,060 --> 04:12:34,980
Next slide please.

2631
04:12:37,390 --> 04:12:38,310
I'm just going to skip this.

2632
04:12:38,370 --> 04:12:39,790
This is a landscape imagery.

2633
04:12:41,530 --> 04:12:43,610
I'm going to talk about the views.

2634
04:12:43,910 --> 04:12:46,570
So again, this is just an overview of the project.

2635
04:12:47,210 --> 04:12:55,430
And what you really see, this is our site looking, sorry, most of my notes here.

2636
04:12:55,430 --> 04:12:55,470
Yeah,

2637
04:12:57,690 --> 04:12:59,370
this is our aerial view looking northeast.

2638
04:12:59,990 --> 04:13:03,130
The road on the left is Delomo Circle and the one on the right is Carson Street.

2639
04:13:03,950 --> 04:13:09,010
And what you can really see is how we've tried to make the project fit in with everything that's there architecturally.

2640
04:13:12,090 --> 04:13:12,830
Thank you.

2641
04:13:14,880 --> 04:13:17,000
Well, you actually have six seconds.

2642
04:13:17,300 --> 04:13:17,660
Okay.

2643
04:13:21,730 --> 04:13:22,850
Thank you very much.

2644
04:13:23,370 --> 04:13:24,210
Thank you, sir.

2645
04:13:24,370 --> 04:13:24,590
Thank you.

2646
04:13:24,590 --> 04:13:25,350
I can't answer any questions.

2647
04:13:26,430 --> 04:13:26,970
Thank you.

2648
04:13:27,110 --> 04:13:32,090
We're going to go back to public comment and then we'll have, there'll be an opportunity for the opponent.

2649
04:13:32,090 --> 04:13:34,290
to come back up to the podium.

2650
04:13:35,110 --> 04:13:37,290
Is there anyone else from the public that would like to ask?

2651
04:13:37,290 --> 04:13:39,010
There's one more on the speaker list, Your Honor.

2652
04:13:39,730 --> 04:13:40,370
Okay, thank you.

2653
04:13:40,470 --> 04:13:40,830
Bret Thornson.

2654
04:13:45,170 --> 04:13:46,270
Good evening, Council.

2655
04:13:46,970 --> 04:13:48,490
My name is Bret Thornson.

2656
04:13:48,570 --> 04:13:52,170
I'm the Senior Vice President and Development for DJM Capital Partners.

2657
04:13:53,090 --> 04:14:00,270
We have owned and managed the Village Delamo Shopping Center adjacent to the site for the last 20 years.

2658
04:14:01,530 --> 04:14:06,970
We're excited to see this site being built up to its full potential, specifically the

2659
04:14:06,970 --> 04:14:10,910
additional residential units that are being proposed by Legacy.

2660
04:14:12,010 --> 04:14:17,210
We've reviewed their plans and we think that they've done a great job to kind of seamlessly

2661
04:14:17,210 --> 04:14:22,830
integrate it into what's there right now and what's currently being developed next

2662
04:14:22,830 --> 04:14:31,410
store. We want to lend our support to the project and we're looking forward to providing

2663
04:14:31,410 --> 04:14:37,850
amenities to the new residents. And we think that legacy would be a great partner and

2664
04:14:37,850 --> 04:14:42,690
a great neighbor to us. So we urge you to approve this project tonight.

2665
04:14:43,130 --> 04:14:43,550
Thank you.

2666
04:14:44,170 --> 04:14:44,850
Thank you, sir.

2667
04:14:51,180 --> 04:14:56,600
I'm Richard Fragrapani. I'm with the Mueller Company. I'm in charge of the development

2668
04:14:56,600 --> 04:14:59,860
and construction and we

2669
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:29,920
We are here to support the project. We are actually neighbors. We are long term property owners and torrents. We own the property across the street on Carson and we own the Dalamo Crossing project. We've been faithfully restoring the Dalamo Crossing project to its former glory ever since we bought it eight years ago. It's been a labor of love. We are very protective of the property. We took a strong hand in

2670
04:15:29,920 --> 04:15:38,120
the selection of a developer for the subject property and we are delighted that legacy was

2671
04:15:38,120 --> 04:15:44,260
interested and that they chose to take on this challenge. We were even more delighted

2672
04:15:44,260 --> 04:15:50,320
when they selected Architects Orange and you can see from the quality of the design

2673
04:15:50,320 --> 04:15:56,480
that was a very good choice. We love the design. We think it fits well with our property

2674
04:15:56,480 --> 04:16:04,800
and we're here to tell you that we are enthusiastic supporters of the project thank you.

2675
04:16:05,320 --> 04:16:06,340
Thank you sir.

2676
04:16:16,140 --> 04:16:18,200
Hello everyone this is Andy Pochop.

2677
04:16:18,760 --> 04:16:25,340
I kind of very decided on this one because it's a good thing for the city because it gives them growth

2678
04:16:25,340 --> 04:16:33,300
and as you know the problem with the city no growth you know when the city populations growth slows down

2679
04:16:33,300 --> 04:16:37,560
that's when the city dying, just like, just like right now,

2680
04:16:37,680 --> 04:16:40,780
Torrance, because you know, in the 50s, when we got the

2681
04:16:40,780 --> 04:16:45,100
Old America award, you know, then a population was like,

2682
04:16:45,260 --> 04:16:49,340
woo, you know, because everybody came here, because Torrance was cheap,

2683
04:16:50,020 --> 04:16:52,660
you know, Torrance was cheap, housing was cheap,

2684
04:16:52,900 --> 04:16:56,380
and you know, it was just population growth.

2685
04:16:56,860 --> 04:16:59,360
So, now, if you don't build this project,

2686
04:16:59,360 --> 04:17:05,260
then we don't get the population growth plus these guys don't have a job, you know what I mean?

2687
04:17:05,840 --> 04:17:11,300
But if you build a project that's good for the city because population growth,

2688
04:17:11,900 --> 04:17:16,380
but you know it's bad because the traffic, you know what I mean?

2689
04:17:16,500 --> 04:17:19,500
We already have very bad traffic, you know what I mean?

2690
04:17:20,200 --> 04:17:26,480
But this may be good because people could just walk over to the Delamo, you know,

2691
04:17:26,480 --> 04:17:33,220
If they like more, you know, when it's too hot, you know, they can just walk there and cool off and stuff like that, you know.

2692
04:17:33,800 --> 04:17:40,380
So it's a very good location. It's a killer location. I don't know why it was what developed before.

2693
04:17:40,560 --> 04:17:46,320
You know, it was like a random property, you know, for a few years back and somebody picked it up for $40 million.

2694
04:17:46,320 --> 04:17:57,260
and dollars, that's when you did not make the money, instead of invest $177 million in stupid

2695
04:17:57,260 --> 04:18:03,940
bank things, what is right now going to go haywire, you could buy this property and

2696
04:18:03,940 --> 04:18:11,180
develop it, you know, think, because these guys will make a sheet load of money, not you.

2697
04:18:11,180 --> 04:18:12,100
Thank

2698
04:18:14,400 --> 04:18:19,100
you, sir. Is there anyone else that would like to comment on this item?

2699
04:18:24,900 --> 04:18:30,260
Okay, we would like to give Mr. Frankle of safer an opportunity to speak again, please.

2700
04:18:41,100 --> 04:18:45,840
Hi, thank you very much. We certainly appreciate the voluntary condition,

2701
04:18:46,220 --> 04:18:50,280
regarding the use of tier four equipment. That's the first I've been informed of that.

2702
04:18:50,900 --> 04:18:56,980
But I would like to revisit the formaldehyde issue, which still has not been adequately addressed.

2703
04:18:56,980 --> 04:19:05,660
We did respond our expert but offer men who is a leading expert on indoor formaldehyde emissions and their effect on human health.

2704
04:19:05,840 --> 04:19:21,940
His comments as well as his CV detailing his decades of expertise and peer reviewed publications on the subject were included in the comment letter that we provided which responded in detail to the placeworks rebuttal comment.

2705
04:19:21,940 --> 04:19:27,640
and he actually rebranded his modeling and calculations of formaldehyde emissions with the

2706
04:19:27,640 --> 04:19:33,440
assumptions, with responses to the various assumptions regarding, for instance, accounting

2707
04:19:33,440 --> 04:19:39,740
for the most current ventilation standards and found that even with all of those nuances

2708
04:19:39,740 --> 04:19:46,000
accounted for, the health impact would still be significant and in excess of the South Coast

2709
04:19:46,000 --> 04:19:54,240
air district significance threshold which is 10 per million and he also further

2710
04:19:54,240 --> 04:19:58,900
provides feasible fitting excuse me mitigation measures which the applicant is

2711
04:19:58,900 --> 04:20:03,620
free to incorporate as it did with the use of Tier 4 equipment. The only

2712
04:20:03,620 --> 04:20:09,780
feasible mitigation for off-gassing of formaldehyde emissions is the use of

2713
04:20:09,780 --> 04:20:15,500
California air resources board approved no added formaldehyde materials. They

2714
04:20:15,500 --> 04:20:21,480
actually use, can use other compounds such as soy-based compounds that do not run the

2715
04:20:21,480 --> 04:20:26,380
risk of off-gassing formaldehyde. Again, this is all detailed in our comment. Thank

2716
04:20:26,380 --> 04:20:26,900
you very much.

2717
04:20:30,150 --> 04:20:35,630
Thank you, sir. I'd like to bring this back up to the council.

2718
04:20:50,630 --> 04:20:51,110
Council

2719
04:20:51,110 --> 04:20:52,610
please. Thank you.

2720
04:21:04,280 --> 04:21:09,120
Thank you, sir, for providing the detailed reports. I just wanted to ask you,

2721
04:21:09,200 --> 04:21:14,020
did you meet with the developer and address your concerns to them personally,

2722
04:21:14,360 --> 04:21:18,840
or was there any interaction between you and the developer? We've not met directly,

2723
04:21:19,000 --> 04:21:23,600
no, but we both parties participated in the planning commission hearing, and I think they're

2724
04:21:23,600 --> 04:21:30,220
well aware of our concerns. We're certainly open to negotiations, but we've not been contacted by

2725
04:21:30,220 --> 04:21:34,420
developer. But did you contact them to express your concern so you get the

2726
04:21:34,420 --> 04:21:39,040
clear? Well the CEQA process is that the city is the lead agency which

2727
04:21:39,040 --> 04:21:45,200
approves the project, the city is the ultimate decision holder for implementing

2728
04:21:45,200 --> 04:21:50,320
the CEQA process and reviewing the adequacy of the CEQA document and so we

2729
04:21:50,320 --> 04:21:55,180
approach the process by following that and addressing our concerns to the city

2730
04:21:55,180 --> 04:21:58,900
which is the jurisdiction that holds that discretion.

2731
04:22:02,700 --> 04:22:08,260
There are polls some of the mitigation measures that is now, so did you hear that?

2732
04:22:08,480 --> 04:22:09,640
Did you have any comments on that?

2733
04:22:11,020 --> 04:22:16,100
Yes, like I said, we appreciate and value and applaud the implementation of the Tier 4

2734
04:22:16,100 --> 04:22:20,480
Equipment Voluntary Condition, but the concerns regarding formaldehyde have not been addressed.

2735
04:22:21,740 --> 04:22:29,940
We concerns remains the same for health care, for DPM, for duration of the project, vehicle

2736
04:22:29,940 --> 04:22:34,680
trade falls, those are still not being mitigated according to your assessment.

2737
04:22:35,640 --> 04:22:42,220
No, the DPM and health risk assessment were performed by the applicant following our

2738
04:22:42,220 --> 04:22:47,320
previous comment, and so we actually updated our letter to reflect that they have responded

2739
04:22:47,320 --> 04:22:51,480
to various concerns that we've raised, but again the formaldehyde issue remains.

2740
04:22:54,100 --> 04:22:56,860
And the material as well, I didn't hear about the material concern.

2741
04:22:58,480 --> 04:22:59,500
I'm not sure.

2742
04:23:00,000 --> 04:23:01,920
You also have formaldehyde?

2743
04:23:02,380 --> 04:23:02,480
Yes.

2744
04:23:03,040 --> 04:23:06,560
The issue is that formaldehyde is a compound,

2745
04:23:07,200 --> 04:23:14,180
it is offgases from glue materials that are used in flooring and cabinetry

2746
04:23:14,180 --> 04:23:16,720
and various indoor furnishings.

2747
04:23:16,720 --> 04:23:25,200
And so, Mr. Offerman analyzed and calculated those risks according to his expertise and

2748
04:23:25,200 --> 04:23:29,340
various studies that he himself has performed in other peer reviewed studies.

2749
04:23:30,240 --> 04:23:35,220
And the issue there is that the California Air Resources Board has what's called the

2750
04:23:35,220 --> 04:23:42,120
Toxics Control Measure, which is intended to limit the amount of formaldehyde that can be

2751
04:23:42,120 --> 04:23:47,560
be included in those indoor furnishing materials, but Mr. Offerman and others have done studies

2752
04:23:47,560 --> 04:23:53,600
since 2019 which have shown that even when those materials are manufactured to be compliant

2753
04:23:53,600 --> 04:24:00,800
with those standards, they still emit an amount of formaldehyde emissions that is in excess

2754
04:24:00,800 --> 04:24:03,320
of the applicable health significance threshold.

2755
04:24:04,140 --> 04:24:10,460
And so the mitigation measure that Mr. Offerman has proposed is to use alternative materials

2756
04:24:10,460 --> 04:24:12,900
that do not have any risk of formaldehyde.

2757
04:24:13,060 --> 04:24:19,020
So for example, soy-based compounds do not off-gas formaldehyde.

2758
04:24:21,390 --> 04:24:22,130
Okay. Thank you, sir.

2759
04:24:22,490 --> 04:24:22,790
Thank you.

2760
04:24:23,330 --> 04:24:26,770
We have some questions from developers.

2761
04:24:27,090 --> 04:24:28,210
I have

2762
04:24:30,390 --> 04:24:32,010
some questions from the developers if you could.

2763
04:24:32,170 --> 04:24:34,090
Mr. Tim O'Brien and Mr. Gosner.

2764
04:24:37,150 --> 04:24:37,650
Yes, sir.

2765
04:24:37,890 --> 04:24:38,270
Thank you, sir.

2766
04:24:41,530 --> 04:24:44,810
How many of the meetings outreach meetings did you had

2767
04:24:44,810 --> 04:24:46,270
with the committee members?

2768
04:24:46,270 --> 04:24:56,110
We had two community meetings, and we had two or three board meetings.

2769
04:24:56,770 --> 04:25:04,370
In addition to that, we participated in business community meetings, as well as just one

2770
04:25:04,370 --> 04:25:08,610
off meetings with various businesses throughout the community and hospitals.

2771
04:25:09,850 --> 04:25:17,870
What was the most common concern that you received or you observed from the meetings

2772
04:25:17,870 --> 04:25:20,550
or any feedback from the community members that you might share?

2773
04:25:21,210 --> 04:25:27,650
Well, from a positive standpoint, I would say that they found that design

2774
04:25:27,650 --> 04:25:31,770
tasteful. They thought it fit in.

2775
04:25:33,970 --> 04:25:37,630
Business, the business community, they express two concerns.

2776
04:25:38,650 --> 04:25:45,690
One, they're concerned about their own space needs. Two, they're concerned about providing

2777
04:25:45,690 --> 04:25:52,630
housing opportunities for their employees. They have trouble attracting employees to

2778
04:25:52,630 --> 04:25:57,450
because the lack of luxury housing like we're providing.

2779
04:25:59,230 --> 04:26:04,270
Outside of that, when you're talking to a community in any kind of development like this,

2780
04:26:04,750 --> 04:26:07,470
probably the biggest concern ever raised is traffic.

2781
04:26:08,610 --> 04:26:12,350
And our response was that traffic study was going to be conducted,

2782
04:26:12,570 --> 04:26:14,870
and that would be part of the review process.

2783
04:26:15,610 --> 04:26:19,810
In fact, the traffic study found that there was no significant impact

2784
04:26:19,810 --> 04:26:29,150
that the traffic follows the logical lines that is going up and down Hawthorne in East

2785
04:26:29,150 --> 04:26:29,890
on Carson.

2786
04:26:30,790 --> 04:26:37,970
And so by design, the project was zoned for a project like this and for the nature

2787
04:26:37,970 --> 04:26:39,110
of this kind of project.

2788
04:26:40,230 --> 04:26:46,510
And so those are the primary concerns and comments.

2789
04:26:47,430 --> 04:26:56,690
And I think Mr. Gosmith showed us the monumental design that was refurbished for the city of Torrance.

2790
04:26:57,710 --> 04:27:03,470
The one that you showed it to us earlier with the old in 17 and now refurbished.

2791
04:27:03,950 --> 04:27:07,910
And you said that that was rewarded for the beautiful design.

2792
04:27:08,470 --> 04:27:08,670
But that,

2793
04:27:11,290 --> 04:27:16,310
do you think, or let me ask you this, do you think the design that you are

2794
04:27:16,310 --> 04:27:22,550
proposing will also up to the par and will may get a reward, something like that in the future.

2795
04:27:23,750 --> 04:27:31,730
Well, sure, we don't design our projects necessarily to win awards, but what we try to do,

2796
04:27:32,070 --> 04:27:41,630
legacy partners, we try to design timeless, elegant projects that people enjoy living in, and that

2797
04:27:41,630 --> 04:27:50,150
the community drives by and sees and sees quality. We think that this is a beautiful

2798
04:27:50,150 --> 04:27:55,110
project. We think that it's a project that the city will be proud of for years. We'll

2799
04:27:55,110 --> 04:28:02,670
see it. And just as the Delano crossing or the old Delano Financial Center that's been

2800
04:28:02,670 --> 04:28:08,150
there since the late 60s is still a beautiful iconic building, we think this will be the

2801
04:28:08,150 --> 04:28:16,110
same. I think that design is time-tested. And so, yeah, absolutely. I do councilmember.

2802
04:28:18,770 --> 04:28:24,610
And in this building, there's no affordable living. This is all luxurious apartment.

2803
04:28:24,870 --> 04:28:25,250
That's correct.

2804
04:28:36,000 --> 04:28:41,260
But some of the concerns that were raised by the appellant about mitigation

2805
04:28:41,260 --> 04:28:49,000
measures for the material, for the vehicle trips, you have would you like to respond?

2806
04:28:49,200 --> 04:28:50,460
Yes, I would like to respond.

2807
04:28:50,600 --> 04:28:59,780
I would also like to clarify for the record, Safer and Mr. Frankl, did not submit a comment,

2808
04:29:00,180 --> 04:29:05,220
not a substantive comment, during the 30-day public circulation period of the Sequa.

2809
04:29:05,340 --> 04:29:06,980
That's what for the Skiha.

2810
04:29:06,980 --> 04:29:12,000
CEQA sets that up to allow there to be dialogue, to allow there to be responses.

2811
04:29:12,680 --> 04:29:19,020
They sandbagged and sent a detailed 300-page letter two days before the planning commission

2812
04:29:19,020 --> 04:29:22,520
meeting and another 100-page or so letter just yesterday.

2813
04:29:23,020 --> 04:29:27,820
This isn't somebody that's interested in negotiating a good faith, but wants to get a gotcha.

2814
04:29:28,500 --> 04:29:34,680
And nonetheless, we listed to those concerns and were volunteering the Tier IV equipment

2815
04:29:34,680 --> 04:29:39,060
with respect to the formaldehyde, it's junk science.

2816
04:29:40,160 --> 04:29:44,680
There's nothing in that letter that is credible or realistic.

2817
04:29:45,080 --> 04:29:51,660
He's suggesting that the cancer risks are 10, 15 times over the threshold.

2818
04:29:51,980 --> 04:29:55,640
If that was true, people be dying in apartments on a daily basis.

2819
04:29:55,740 --> 04:29:58,320
That's a huge number. That's worse than a smelting plant.

2820
04:29:58,780 --> 04:29:59,960
It's worse than a chemical plant.

2821
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:11,700
It's just isn't credible, and it's been debunked completely by experts who prepared the skia and put together a very detailed response and shows that it's not warranted.

2822
04:30:16,280 --> 04:30:23,400
In the duration of the project, you're expecting to be completed within 28 months? Correct.

2823
04:30:32,220 --> 04:30:36,840
Okay, I'll come back to you some other questions, so I'll let my colleagues to ask. Thank you for your clarification.

2824
04:30:39,340 --> 04:30:43,720
Councillor Neill for this. Yeah, thank you. I do have a couple questions for the developer.

2825
04:30:43,720 --> 04:30:45,980
On page

2826
04:30:49,270 --> 04:30:57,530
three of the staff slide show, there's the overhead view and showing the building layout and the landscaping.

2827
04:30:57,930 --> 04:31:03,670
Is that landscape layout pretty close to what you're envisioning doing for landscaping on the project?

2828
04:31:07,400 --> 04:31:07,820
Yes.

2829
04:31:11,950 --> 04:31:19,730
Torrance is a tree city, so we love our trees and so it's very important that we see these trees actually end up in there

2830
04:31:19,730 --> 04:31:22,970
and we'd like to see hopefully more than twigs put in there.

2831
04:31:23,250 --> 04:31:23,570
Absolutely.

2832
04:31:24,750 --> 04:31:25,810
So I wanted to verify that.

2833
04:31:26,230 --> 04:31:28,230
The other concern I have which I've expressed to you

2834
04:31:28,230 --> 04:31:30,070
directly in the past is the parking.

2835
04:31:31,590 --> 04:31:33,850
It's always been a concern for me for any project

2836
04:31:33,850 --> 04:31:37,230
that's put forth whether it's a housing or a commercial or what.

2837
04:31:38,850 --> 04:31:41,590
You've parked it just to minimum code and nothing further.

2838
04:31:42,530 --> 04:31:44,510
And that's always to me a red flag.

2839
04:31:46,110 --> 04:31:47,990
But you did express to me when we met

2840
04:31:47,990 --> 04:31:53,790
that you had a way around that that you felt that there's adequate parking available

2841
04:31:53,790 --> 04:31:56,590
from the financial center that could be used as overflow.

2842
04:31:57,310 --> 04:32:00,490
And that sounded good when we met, but I wanted to verify.

2843
04:32:00,710 --> 04:32:03,030
Do you have any agreement to allow that to happen?

2844
04:32:03,370 --> 04:32:10,610
No, we don't have a formal agreement, but there are available parking spaces in that

2845
04:32:12,170 --> 04:32:13,130
parking structure.

2846
04:32:13,470 --> 04:32:14,450
In your parking structure?

2847
04:32:14,450 --> 04:32:23,170
in their parking structure. Now, in our parking structure, we have at 2.2 spaces per unit,

2848
04:32:23,590 --> 04:32:27,810
we have 440 parking spaces, which is the minimum of our code.

2849
04:32:28,730 --> 04:32:39,870
Kelsal member, but we have 269 bedrooms. Now, historically, we would propose a 1.7 per unit

2850
04:32:39,870 --> 04:32:47,810
parking ratio. And in our industry, when we work with these types of projects, the last group that

2851
04:32:47,810 --> 04:32:57,230
wants a parking problem is the owner and is the manager. And so we work to operate at a

2852
04:32:57,230 --> 04:33:03,450
sufficient, more than sufficient level of parking. And from an industry perspective, you'll commonly see

2853
04:33:03,970 --> 04:33:15,290
projects that are 1.5 to 1.75 spaces per unit. So we see that this will be an abundance of parking spaces.

2854
04:33:15,770 --> 04:33:33,330
I hear that all the time and it tends not to be the case when it actually gets built. But I am aware that the parking structure next to this is pretty empty and I'm a little concerned the fact that you don't have a formal arrangement to potentially use that for overflow because I do believe it is a

2855
04:33:33,330 --> 04:33:38,090
controlled parking lot. I don't know that it's available to the public without some sort

2856
04:33:38,710 --> 04:33:44,950
of key access. So, I don't know, it might be worthwhile just to see about setting that

2857
04:33:44,950 --> 04:33:49,730
up just in case. It would certainly make me feel better that you know you have an agreement

2858
04:33:49,730 --> 04:33:50,910
with them just in case.

2859
04:33:51,310 --> 04:33:55,330
I understand. Those are my questions for the developer at this time. Thank you.

2860
04:34:02,220 --> 04:34:06,980
Council members, shake. Thank you. Thank you, sir. A couple more questions for me.

2861
04:34:06,980 --> 04:34:12,860
Okay. After you meet with the community, did you make, did you modify any of the design,

2862
04:34:13,200 --> 04:34:17,920
anything that was changed, or you thought that this will serve the community in a different way?

2863
04:34:18,140 --> 04:34:18,860
Any modification?

2864
04:34:19,380 --> 04:34:25,580
No. No specific modifications were requested.

2865
04:34:28,250 --> 04:34:28,710
Thank you.

2866
04:34:31,670 --> 04:34:32,870
Council Member Kaji.

2867
04:34:34,250 --> 04:34:35,230
Thank you, Your Honor.

2868
04:34:36,030 --> 04:34:38,050
I have some questions for the appellant.

2869
04:34:52,320 --> 04:34:57,480
Thank you for your presentation tonight, just a few questions.

2870
04:35:00,280 --> 04:35:07,700
How did you first learn of this project and at what time did you first register, I guess

2871
04:35:07,700 --> 04:35:12,020
your opposition or point out these mitigation points?

2872
04:35:14,670 --> 04:35:24,190
I don't have the exact dates and times in front of me.

2873
04:35:24,190 --> 04:35:29,030
the city of Torrance notifies the public, the staff can detail you to the specific times

2874
04:35:29,030 --> 04:35:33,150
that that's done, but we're informed of various projects that are going through the

2875
04:35:33,150 --> 04:35:34,170
sequer review process.

2876
04:35:34,890 --> 04:35:39,750
And to clarify, the safer is not opposed to the project, but is saying that the use of

2877
04:35:39,750 --> 04:35:44,610
the ski is not appropriate for the various reasons outlined in the written comments.

2878
04:35:44,610 --> 04:35:55,310
Okay, I'm, help me understand then as projects are, you know, come before various cities throughout the state of California.

2879
04:35:55,710 --> 04:36:00,370
And as I would, I would guess your firm receives these notifications.

2880
04:36:02,330 --> 04:36:05,890
I'm trying to understand the business model of your firm.

2881
04:36:06,470 --> 04:36:12,230
And does a sequa notice trigger a immediate response from your firm?

2882
04:36:13,250 --> 04:36:17,610
It would be dependent on the project and the extent of the environmental issues

2883
04:36:17,610 --> 04:36:22,330
before involved in that project and how much time there is before hearing

2884
04:36:22,330 --> 04:36:27,230
and how much time we have to retain experts to review the various environmental documents

2885
04:36:27,230 --> 04:36:29,770
that are many different factors that go into it.

2886
04:36:30,710 --> 04:36:31,750
Okay, thank you.

2887
04:36:32,250 --> 04:36:38,050
So, of course, this is a, at least here in Torrance, it's a large project.

2888
04:36:38,950 --> 04:36:50,150
What would be I guess the threshold, you know, for your firm to, you know, file an opposition, would it be 50 units, 100 units?

2889
04:36:52,110 --> 04:36:59,270
Again, I don't think there's a numeric threshold. I think it has to do with the substantive environmental issues that are at stake.

2890
04:37:00,750 --> 04:37:09,310
I'm just trying to determine if I was a private developer, I was proposing a 25-unit development

2891
04:37:09,310 --> 04:37:10,070
in Torrance,

2892
04:37:12,150 --> 04:37:16,850
would that rise to the level where your firm would suddenly pay attention

2893
04:37:16,850 --> 04:37:22,930
and then I as a developer would have to lower up and prepare to do battle?

2894
04:37:24,030 --> 04:37:29,090
I mean, it's difficult for me to hypothesize without having the facts before me of the specific

2895
04:37:29,090 --> 04:37:33,550
environmental impacts that might be at issue. There could be a smaller development that

2896
04:37:34,110 --> 04:37:38,770
doesn't mitigate the impacts properly and imposes various health risks. You could have,

2897
04:37:38,770 --> 04:37:44,530
for instance, we see sometimes residential development next to industrial uses or immediately

2898
04:37:44,530 --> 04:37:49,910
next to a gas station which might pose health risks to the residents. So, it would really depend

2899
04:37:49,910 --> 04:37:51,930
on the facts of the particular development.

2900
04:37:52,710 --> 04:37:58,790
Okay. Well, I live near a oil refinery, so maybe we can talk after this, but anyway, I'm

2901
04:37:58,790 --> 04:38:01,850
sorry. Thank you. I have some questions for the developer.

2902
04:38:07,980 --> 04:38:10,160
I heard some of the comments

2903
04:38:10,160 --> 04:38:19,160
by, I think it was the Southwood Homers Association and also by some of the neighbors with their

2904
04:38:19,160 --> 04:38:20,520
projects adjacent to yours.

2905
04:38:21,780 --> 04:38:23,780
Help me understand the design.

2906
04:38:23,960 --> 04:38:29,740
I know that when I look at the overall design, I think you made some comment that you

2907
04:38:29,740 --> 04:38:38,660
wanted to make sure that it fits the general environment and maybe this is a question better

2908
04:38:38,660 --> 04:38:39,720
for the architect.

2909
04:38:41,680 --> 04:38:42,060
Yeah.

2910
04:38:42,680 --> 04:38:43,340
Oh, sorry.

2911
04:38:43,560 --> 04:38:48,640
Councilmember Kaji, I'll defer to the architect related to the design intent.

2912
04:38:49,900 --> 04:38:51,220
Okay, thank you.

2913
04:38:53,000 --> 04:38:55,680
Good evening, RC Alley with AO Architects again.

2914
04:38:56,400 --> 04:39:00,920
Yeah, we, first of all, as I mentioned before,

2915
04:39:01,180 --> 04:39:07,440
the really the Delomo Center is really a, it's really a very iconic project.

2916
04:39:08,200 --> 04:39:11,980
And we wanted to build a project that really paid homage to it.

2917
04:39:12,760 --> 04:39:18,300
We felt it would be very inappropriate to do a project that was wholesale different.

2918
04:39:18,300 --> 04:39:24,380
a Italian aid project or a Mediterranean project would not do that, that project justice.

2919
04:39:24,560 --> 04:39:31,220
Nor do I think that the owner's and operator of the office buildings would be very happy about that.

2920
04:39:31,340 --> 04:39:36,160
Because it, again, it's, I don't know if you realize the treasure that you have here,

2921
04:39:36,220 --> 04:39:39,480
you must because it is such a fantastic project.

2922
04:39:39,720 --> 04:39:45,040
I mean, you don't see many office buildings or office projects that were built in the 60s that are still,

2923
04:39:45,040 --> 04:39:47,780
We'll still have the presence that you have in this city.

2924
04:39:48,380 --> 04:39:52,080
It's something special and it's something that we felt we had to honor.

2925
04:39:53,620 --> 04:39:54,520
Okay, thank you.

2926
04:39:55,300 --> 04:39:57,740
And I guess my last question for the developer.

2927
04:39:59,260 --> 04:40:06,120
I know you've gone through this process in other cities where you've built various projects.

2928
04:40:06,980 --> 04:40:13,400
And Torrance has had a somewhat dubious reputation over the years when it comes to new projects.

2929
04:40:15,040 --> 04:40:19,620
If you had to do this over again, would you approach the community any differently,

2930
04:40:20,260 --> 04:40:25,360
the neighbors, the business community, or you think that you want about it in the right way,

2931
04:40:25,640 --> 04:40:28,020
and by talking to the homeowners, the businesses?

2932
04:40:30,400 --> 04:40:34,320
Absolutely. I mean, there's two ways to go.

2933
04:40:34,800 --> 04:40:42,320
One way is to not do it, is to engage only if folks come out,

2934
04:40:42,320 --> 04:40:52,980
And it would be at a meeting, like a planning commission meeting, and you'd sit down and maybe go in the back and talk, or you set up another meeting, we did it well in advance.

2935
04:40:54,640 --> 04:41:01,400
And we've done that on prior projects, and we've had a lot of success doing it. It takes a lot longer to do.

2936
04:41:01,760 --> 04:41:09,380
I think there was a chance we would have accomplished this in 12 months, not 18 months.

2937
04:41:10,900 --> 04:41:22,720
So certainly, you invest more time in energy, but I think that if you consider us as an owner of this project.

2938
04:41:22,860 --> 04:41:25,160
We're currently a developer of this project.

2939
04:41:25,320 --> 04:41:31,480
But if you recall, with our financial partner, DWS, we're a long-term owner.

2940
04:41:31,680 --> 04:41:34,700
So we view that we'll be with this community for some time.

2941
04:41:34,700 --> 04:41:40,720
So, you know, that extra time, whether it was six months, 18 months versus 12 months, it's worth the investment.

2942
04:41:41,460 --> 04:41:42,500
All right. Thank you very much.

2943
04:41:46,490 --> 04:41:48,250
Thank you, Council Member Lewis.

2944
04:41:49,610 --> 04:41:50,470
Thank you, Mayor.

2945
04:41:51,430 --> 04:41:52,550
This is my district.

2946
04:41:53,170 --> 04:41:57,130
So, this is a project that I've been very entombed with.

2947
04:41:58,450 --> 04:42:06,510
And back to the developers, I remember us having a conversation when we met the first time

2948
04:42:06,510 --> 04:42:10,690
about the design and change orders.

2949
04:42:12,030 --> 04:42:18,050
How can we be sure that as the project moves along, if there is a design change order,

2950
04:42:18,530 --> 04:42:22,410
what would be the process that you would use to advise us of any changes?

2951
04:42:25,710 --> 04:42:33,570
Are we talking about changes between now and the issuance of a building permit?

2952
04:42:33,570 --> 04:42:45,590
No. Changes after you're starting to build and you just get into the project and you decide you want to do a change order to move something or redesign an element of the building.

2953
04:42:46,470 --> 04:42:52,950
There wouldn't be changes after the fact that we have a building design.

2954
04:42:53,150 --> 04:42:55,870
I mean, historically, I assume Torrance works the same way.

2955
04:42:56,630 --> 04:42:58,710
We have a set of plans.

2956
04:42:58,710 --> 04:43:07,670
We have conditions of approval, and we have to meet those conditions of approval prior to the end of the job, prior to the completion of the job.

2957
04:43:08,510 --> 04:43:20,130
The building department issues a building certificate of occupancy, and as part of that certificate of occupancy, they're going down and making sure that this building complies.

2958
04:43:20,130 --> 04:43:29,250
I'm not discussing the material building itself I'm talking about the design because I think

2959
04:43:29,250 --> 04:43:35,010
I made it very clear it was very important for us for this design element to reflect, reflect

2960
04:43:35,010 --> 04:43:40,350
the community that we're trying to build in that area and I also referenced to your

2961
04:43:40,350 --> 04:43:43,790
for Costa Mesa properties, which I actually made a trip down to visit.

2962
04:43:44,850 --> 04:43:56,270
And I remember us discussing where Dalamo crossings has done a phenomenal job in revitalizing

2963
04:43:56,270 --> 04:44:02,270
the area where urban plates and 24-hour fitness is, those type of design elements into the

2964
04:44:02,270 --> 04:44:02,590
building.

2965
04:44:04,050 --> 04:44:10,210
I was clear about our desire to have those design elements to somehow show up on the

2966
04:44:10,210 --> 04:44:16,410
residential sections, particularly since this is going to be a luxury apartment complex

2967
04:44:16,410 --> 04:44:19,410
that I assume you're still going to market to professionals.

2968
04:44:19,810 --> 04:44:19,970
Correct.

2969
04:44:21,510 --> 04:44:28,670
So one condition that we've agreed to is that the applicant and developers shall continue

2970
04:44:28,670 --> 04:44:34,490
to work with staff to enhance the exterior design of the project to the satisfaction

2971
04:44:34,490 --> 04:44:36,490
of the community development director.

2972
04:44:36,490 --> 04:44:40,690
Yeah, I read that and I appreciate that I don't think that was an element that was in there before

2973
04:44:40,690 --> 04:44:41,090
Correct

2974
04:44:41,810 --> 04:44:43,290
You're on our members of the council

2975
04:44:43,290 --> 04:44:45,570
Oscar Martinez Community Development Department

2976
04:44:45,570 --> 04:44:52,030
If the project is approved tonight and if there were to be any kind of aside changes or material changes depending on the level of changes

2977
04:44:52,030 --> 04:44:59,450
It could require an administrative approval that's reviewed and approved by the Community Development Director and it could also which

2978
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:29,320
The decision could be appealed to the city council. And then if it's a wholesale change, a large, complete change from the original design, it would be brought back to planning commission and city council. Yeah, it's not the wholesale change I'm worried about. It's the design element in Michelle. I think you and I had that conversation before. Chair commissioners, I mean, excuse me. It's kind of whole, they're in council members. Michelle Ramirez, community development director, knowing how strongly the council feels about this.

2979
04:45:29,320 --> 04:45:40,980
What we can do is if they do have some type of change such as that, I do have the authority to automatically go ahead and move it up to the planning commission and we can do that.

2980
04:45:41,300 --> 04:45:44,120
Perfect. That makes me have a little level of relief.

2981
04:45:44,840 --> 04:45:51,700
And then you're saying 24 months, 18 to 24 months is a completion.

2982
04:45:51,700 --> 04:45:53,160
about 28 months.

2983
04:45:53,400 --> 04:45:54,820
About 28 months, okay.

2984
04:45:58,460 --> 04:46:07,360
And I assume that there's been a noise study on the school that's down the street.

2985
04:46:07,760 --> 04:46:09,980
Well, a noise study was completed.

2986
04:46:10,580 --> 04:46:11,300
Do you do?

2987
04:46:11,620 --> 04:46:11,720
Yeah.

2988
04:46:11,940 --> 04:46:15,740
Well, once again, Dale Gullsworth, yeah, the scheme was a comprehensive document.

2989
04:46:15,980 --> 04:46:20,040
It analyzes all the various impact areas, including noise, and there was a tactical

2990
04:46:20,040 --> 04:46:25,340
that concluded that there would be no significant noise impacts either during construction

2991
04:46:25,340 --> 04:46:26,000
or operation.

2992
04:46:27,120 --> 04:46:30,540
Okay. And that was submitted to the school system?

2993
04:46:30,940 --> 04:46:36,680
It was actually the city planning department, community development department reviewed it,

2994
04:46:36,740 --> 04:46:40,680
and that's part of the public document that I believe could have been circulated, provided

2995
04:46:40,680 --> 04:46:42,780
the school district. I'm not entirely certain that.

2996
04:46:43,300 --> 04:46:45,740
Okay. That's all I have for right now. Thank you.

2997
04:46:48,340 --> 04:46:49,700
Back to councilmembers.

2998
04:46:49,900 --> 04:46:49,940
Shake.

2999
04:46:50,900 --> 04:46:51,320
Thank you, Mayor.

3000
04:46:53,520 --> 04:46:54,020
Mr. O'Brien.

3001
04:46:54,600 --> 04:46:56,900
A couple of questions from you and also Mr. Goldsmith.

3002
04:46:57,120 --> 04:47:05,360
I think you made comments earlier that before you prepared this design, you had outreach meetings.

3003
04:47:05,840 --> 04:47:06,240
Correct.

3004
04:47:06,720 --> 04:47:06,840
Right.

3005
04:47:07,740 --> 04:47:13,400
So how do you expect someone to make or give you any recommendation if you don't have any design

3006
04:47:13,400 --> 04:47:13,740
there?

3007
04:47:13,740 --> 04:47:20,940
And then you said that there were no recommendations for a given to you.

3008
04:47:21,300 --> 04:47:25,500
I don't expect any recommendations if you're not showing what you're going to build.

3009
04:47:26,580 --> 04:47:34,700
No, Councilmember, we had initial meetings with, for instance, Councilmembers,

3010
04:47:35,600 --> 04:47:41,760
and with the Board of the Southwest Community Association in which we just showed

3011
04:47:41,760 --> 04:47:46,040
them what we had, we talked about ourselves and what we do.

3012
04:47:46,660 --> 04:48:00,260
We came back and did a presentation to the board, and then the next step was a meeting with the community association.

3013
04:48:00,600 --> 04:48:05,860
And in which time we had the design, and that's what they were assessing at the time.

3014
04:48:06,160 --> 04:48:10,660
So there were a couple of series of meetings, the initial meetings, there was no design,

3015
04:48:11,200 --> 04:48:17,940
Secondary meetings with design, one question was, when is this going to be approved?

3016
04:48:18,560 --> 04:48:22,300
And we said, well, we go through a submittal process and so on and so forth.

3017
04:48:22,400 --> 04:48:23,440
When was it submitted?

3018
04:48:23,980 --> 04:48:25,200
Well, we haven't submitted it yet.

3019
04:48:25,320 --> 04:48:26,960
We wanted to have this meeting with you first.

3020
04:48:26,960 --> 04:48:30,880
Q. But with all due respect, you said a couple times that you didn't have that.

3021
04:48:31,080 --> 04:48:34,300
You had an outreach meeting, and then you had those design.

3022
04:48:34,680 --> 04:48:40,300
And when we met, I requested that, Ted, would you be open to look at design

3023
04:48:40,300 --> 04:48:46,460
differently. You would be open to have a little different design. So that was one of my

3024
04:48:46,460 --> 04:48:51,080
request to you. And in just now, you said there was no request offered to you, or there

3025
04:48:51,080 --> 04:48:52,960
was no recommendation given to you.

3026
04:48:54,760 --> 04:49:02,020
I'm, let me clarify, Council Member, from the community. You, you, you would specify

3027
04:49:02,020 --> 04:49:04,160
that you, I represent community.

3028
04:49:04,800 --> 04:49:07,600
I, I, I, I apologize for the confusion.

3029
04:49:07,600 --> 04:49:13,140
No, no, no. That's why I thought you were directing the question to me relative to the

3030
04:49:13,140 --> 04:49:14,980
community, not our meeting.

3031
04:49:18,190 --> 04:49:21,430
But you didn't mention a couple times. I remember a recall

3032
04:49:21,430 --> 04:49:29,090
that I better know that you did have outreach without any renderings. And then you're expecting

3033
04:49:29,090 --> 04:49:33,770
someone to come and give you recommendations without showing what you're going to have there.

3034
04:49:33,770 --> 04:49:55,470
Let me clarify, we had an initial meeting, in fact, prior to you joining the council, we met with council members for our initial meeting and we just showed a location, introduced ourselves, told us what, told them about ourselves and what we plan to do in general terms and concept.

3035
04:49:56,630 --> 04:50:00,950
We did the same thing with the Southwood Homeowners Association Board.

3036
04:50:02,030 --> 04:50:05,070
We followed the next meeting with the Board.

3037
04:50:05,370 --> 04:50:13,790
We followed with actual designs, with designs, and we had a chance to present those designs to them.

3038
04:50:14,250 --> 04:50:22,210
Following that, we had a community meeting with designs, and then we had another meeting with the

3039
04:50:22,210 --> 04:50:30,710
homeowner's association the fall of last year with designs. So at all times, outside

3040
04:50:30,710 --> 04:50:37,190
of the initial meetings which were purely introductory in nature, we had designs.

3041
04:50:46,740 --> 04:50:50,100
I'm just going to be blunt. I'm going to ask you, do you think there's a wall

3042
04:50:50,100 --> 04:50:56,980
factor in your design that we feel that that fits the theme of Torrance? Because you

3043
04:50:56,980 --> 04:51:04,180
are taking us, again, I'm not opposed to your project. I want to bring something in

3044
04:51:04,180 --> 04:51:12,780
torrents that people look at it and say, wow, who designed that? Right, so this is not

3045
04:51:12,780 --> 04:51:19,060
a factor to me. And that's a little concern I shared with you when I met and with all

3046
04:51:19,060 --> 04:51:24,280
dear respect. This is a prime location for our city. We are creating, we're having a precedent

3047
04:51:24,280 --> 04:51:31,060
for the future designs, future developers to come here with their creativity.

3048
04:51:32,160 --> 04:51:37,480
And this is a block, and then we're going to have multiple blocks. So I am just expressing

3049
04:51:37,480 --> 04:51:44,880
that what I heard from my community members, they were pretty obvious what they had.

3050
04:51:45,040 --> 04:51:52,020
This is not a law factor. So would you be considering anything that gives us a little flavor of that,

3051
04:51:52,020 --> 04:51:56,400
that people come to you and it's going to be mutual benefit to you and to the city.

3052
04:51:56,980 --> 04:52:00,660
People are going to, from other cities, they're going to ask, who designed this?

3053
04:52:00,860 --> 04:52:02,040
That's what we want our city.

3054
04:52:02,280 --> 04:52:02,480
Sure.

3055
04:52:02,740 --> 04:52:08,720
And say for R, that we are creating something that other cities will come and ask us, wow,

3056
04:52:09,500 --> 04:52:11,520
I don't see that in your design.

3057
04:52:12,260 --> 04:52:19,320
Would you be willing to make some modifications to make something that we will salute you?

3058
04:52:19,320 --> 04:52:23,840
So, hey, thank you for bringing that project, that creativity in torrents.

3059
04:52:24,640 --> 04:52:35,540
Yes, we've agreed in condition 24 to continue to work with staff and the community development director to enhance the project.

3060
04:52:36,320 --> 04:52:36,820
Yes.

3061
04:52:38,780 --> 04:52:39,340
Thank you.

3062
04:52:41,070 --> 04:52:41,810
Thank you, Mayor.

3063
04:52:49,650 --> 04:52:50,650
Councillor Member Lewis?

3064
04:52:52,460 --> 04:52:54,060
Councillor Member Lewis with draws.

3065
04:52:54,060 --> 04:52:58,080
Is there anyone else on the council that has any questions?

3066
04:52:58,320 --> 04:53:01,620
If not, I'll take a motion to close the public hearing.

3067
04:53:02,760 --> 04:53:03,440
So moved.

3068
04:53:05,180 --> 04:53:05,660
Second.

3069
04:53:19,120 --> 04:53:22,080
Your Honor, that motion carried with Mayor Chinatheon.

3070
04:53:22,960 --> 04:53:23,680
Thank you.

3071
04:53:23,800 --> 04:53:26,080
Does the council wish to take action on this item?

3072
04:53:42,450 --> 04:53:42,690
Okay.

3073
04:53:43,250 --> 04:53:44,170
Council member, please.

3074
04:53:44,730 --> 04:53:45,270
Would like more.

3075
04:53:45,550 --> 04:53:45,690
Okay.

3076
04:53:46,290 --> 04:53:46,530
All

3077
04:53:57,700 --> 04:53:57,760
right.

3078
04:53:57,820 --> 04:53:58,100
I'll start.

3079
04:54:05,840 --> 04:54:10,600
I've been on the council the longest of our council members and in my time, which is almost

3080
04:54:10,600 --> 04:54:15,680
nine years or over nine years now, we've never had a housing project come before us of this size,

3081
04:54:17,640 --> 04:54:21,760
which is kind of remarkable actually that nothing like this has come before us.

3082
04:54:21,920 --> 04:54:26,300
So I'm glad that it has and it gives us the opportunity to talk about a lot of issues,

3083
04:54:27,040 --> 04:54:32,100
not all of which in my case are things I want to talk about that are directly related to this

3084
04:54:32,100 --> 04:54:35,620
this project but to development in general.

3085
04:54:36,720 --> 04:54:42,300
But I do have a few questions for staff specifically on this project which would extrapolate to

3086
04:54:42,300 --> 04:54:43,360
future projects as well.

3087
04:54:45,050 --> 04:54:54,600
We are in a state of water shortages and power shortages and how does developing this kind

3088
04:54:54,600 --> 04:54:59,340
of project where there's absolutely zero usage of power and water on this property today?

3089
04:54:59,340 --> 04:55:07,280
How do we provide that sufficient water and power to new projects when we're already in a shortage situation?

3090
04:55:09,060 --> 04:55:17,840
And how does this get approved without getting the approval of ensuring that we have the power and water to provide to this development and other new development?

3091
04:55:18,380 --> 04:55:21,680
Your honor and council members, Oscar Martinez Community Development Department.

3092
04:55:21,940 --> 04:55:26,540
Through the Sustainable Communities Environmental Assessment and the initial study that was prepared for the project,

3093
04:55:26,540 --> 04:55:32,800
They reached out to Cal Water Service who provided a will serve letter that's valid for two

3094
04:55:32,800 --> 04:55:37,220
years and essentially they do indicate that there is sufficient capacity to serve the

3095
04:55:37,220 --> 04:55:41,620
project and per the sustainable community's environmental assessment.

3096
04:55:42,680 --> 04:55:48,400
The total gallons per year of the project would be 317,000 approximately, that's for the

3097
04:55:50,300 --> 04:55:59,380
for the X-year, it's 317,000 gallons per year and then the indoor water demand is

3098
04:55:59,380 --> 04:56:11,940
$15,389,130 gallons per year for a total of $15,000,000, yeah, so for a total of $15,706,307

3099
04:56:11,940 --> 04:56:12,980
and gallons per year.

3100
04:56:13,880 --> 04:56:15,680
I'm going to ask you to convert that to acre feet.

3101
04:56:16,700 --> 04:56:17,700
No, I won't do that.

3102
04:56:17,720 --> 04:56:18,900
48.2 acre feet.

3103
04:56:19,160 --> 04:56:19,540
Oh, nice.

3104
04:56:20,140 --> 04:56:20,660
All right.

3105
04:56:22,040 --> 04:56:22,840
All right.

3106
04:56:25,840 --> 04:56:27,260
That man deserves a raise.

3107
04:56:27,380 --> 04:56:29,020
Let's give him a granny points.

3108
04:56:29,120 --> 04:56:29,460
That's good.

3109
04:56:32,740 --> 04:56:35,240
You know, it's easy for any company to say

3110
04:56:35,240 --> 04:56:36,300
that they can supply it.

3111
04:56:36,440 --> 04:56:39,000
But this project is going to be here for a long, long time.

3112
04:56:40,560 --> 04:56:42,300
And I'm just concerned that,

3113
04:56:42,300 --> 04:56:48,600
Okay, we say yes on this project and we've we look at all these little little I'm saying, but this is a big project

3114
04:56:48,600 --> 04:56:51,920
But if we look at these projects as they come down the street one at a time

3115
04:56:52,320 --> 04:56:55,160
We keep saying yeah, we can do this. We have we can do this. Yeah, we can do this

3116
04:56:55,160 --> 04:56:59,440
Eventually, we get to the point where we say, oh, we don't have any water. We don't have any power

3117
04:56:59,440 --> 04:57:03,660
How do we deal with that? And I know it's not necessarily the city's issue

3118
04:57:03,660 --> 04:57:06,040
You just have to follow the rules that you're given to do that

3119
04:57:06,480 --> 04:57:12,120
But I'm just trying to look in the big picture of the world and especially the state that we live here in California with water

3120
04:57:12,120 --> 04:57:20,980
shorter just constantly and power shortages on the increase and the state telling us to build, build, build, how do we balance that and

3121
04:57:20,980 --> 04:57:30,840
I know you probably don't have an answer for that but that's something top of my mind when we're being told to build 5,000 units here in the city of Torrance in the next seven years.

3122
04:57:33,340 --> 04:57:39,380
And so you didn't you talked about water and kudos for covering that what about the power side?

3123
04:57:43,190 --> 04:57:54,530
Mr. Your Honor and members of the Council, I'll have to look into that one as I do not prepare for that question, my apologies, but I can definitely get some additional information for you.

3124
04:57:58,690 --> 04:58:04,410
And then that leads me to my other issue that always is raised when we talk about any kind of development and that's traffic.

3125
04:58:04,410 --> 04:58:11,790
Everybody talks traffic, traffic, traffic, and as we constantly see on these projects, we

3126
04:58:11,790 --> 04:58:16,770
come back and say, oh, the traffic say says there's no impact, no significant impact.

3127
04:58:17,670 --> 04:58:20,810
Yet somehow the traffic keeps getting worse and worse and worse.

3128
04:58:21,630 --> 04:58:24,990
How is it that we pass all these projects that have traffic studies that say there's no

3129
04:58:24,990 --> 04:58:29,650
significant impact, and yet traffic continues to get worse?

3130
04:58:30,710 --> 04:58:36,750
I'd love to hear if anybody has a thought on that, but I'll expand on it if you don't.

3131
04:58:46,560 --> 04:58:51,680
You're on, Aaron, members of Council. Again, I'm just double checking the power situation here.

3132
04:58:52,440 --> 04:58:52,720
Okay.

3133
04:59:44,660 --> 04:59:47,440
Your Honourable Mayor, Council Members, Michelle Ramirez,

3134
04:59:47,620 --> 04:59:48,420
Community Development Director.

3135
04:59:48,900 --> 04:59:55,920
In regards to the traffic, I do agree that, you know, there's no crystal ball to say how traffic will impact this in the future.

3136
04:59:55,920 --> 04:59:59,780
We do our best that we have our title 24, we have

3137
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:28,660
As a requirement, we do require any charging stations in the project. I'm sure the developer himself, but we obviously have to reopen up the public hearing can also be punished on things they're doing to help reduce the traffic because of the development. The state is always trying to look at ways to reduce the traffic in the entire state of California. They're trying to increase transportation, other transportation methods and modes.

3138
05:00:28,660 --> 05:00:34,360
And so we do incorporate those into our plans, so we do the best we can.

3139
05:00:34,560 --> 05:00:41,340
If I can interrupt, yet it takes 20 years to improve an intersection in our city that is involving the state.

3140
05:00:41,620 --> 05:00:46,380
That's just so contrary to trying to help us with these problems.

3141
05:00:46,920 --> 05:00:51,520
And they drag their feet and make it extremely difficult for us to make improvements, sorry to interrupt.

3142
05:00:51,920 --> 05:00:53,500
Well, not when we have control of it.

3143
05:00:53,980 --> 05:00:55,920
No, I understand. We do a much better job.

3144
05:00:55,920 --> 05:01:13,820
But you were mentioning the state, which I always like to mention as well, and the state is telling us to do all these things, but yet they're making it extremely difficult for us to try to make the improvements that are necessary to make the general improvements that would allow for what they're asking for.

3145
05:01:14,540 --> 05:01:16,520
And that's where I have a huge issue.

3146
05:01:16,520 --> 05:01:21,820
I understand, and you know, this state has also, you know, passed certain legislations.

3147
05:01:22,980 --> 05:01:28,980
I want to say AB 2097, hope it's not SB 2097, I have too many bills in my head, but AB

3148
05:01:29,880 --> 05:01:34,560
2097, whereby, you know, you don't have to, you don't have to provide the parking that's

3149
05:01:34,560 --> 05:01:40,140
required any longer if you have transit to the testament of this development.

3150
05:01:40,300 --> 05:01:43,760
They did not take advantage of that, they could have easily taken advantage of it, they did

3151
05:01:43,760 --> 05:01:47,220
not at least park it to the minimum at that we had asked them to do.

3152
05:01:48,580 --> 05:01:53,680
But I do agree there are certain legislation, certain local requirements that we have

3153
05:01:53,680 --> 05:01:55,080
in place to try to help the traffic.

3154
05:01:55,080 --> 05:01:59,420
We will continue to do that, but you are correct.

3155
05:01:59,860 --> 05:02:03,180
It is something that, you know, we do see increasing on our streets.

3156
05:02:05,940 --> 05:02:08,780
Mr. Martinez, did you have anything else on the power?

3157
05:02:09,000 --> 05:02:11,680
I know you're, I saw smoke coming out of your computer there.

3158
05:02:12,400 --> 05:02:15,360
Your Honor, I remember the City Council asking for forgiveness for me, development department.

3159
05:02:15,840 --> 05:02:19,760
Through the Sustainable Communities Environmental Assessment, electrical facilities was analyzed,

3160
05:02:20,000 --> 05:02:26,080
but it identified that no additional or new expanded electrical power facilities would

3161
05:02:26,080 --> 05:02:31,560
be required, and that the proposed project would be less insignificant in terms of electrical

3162
05:02:31,560 --> 05:02:32,080
services.

3163
05:02:33,060 --> 05:02:34,420
Very similar to traffic.

3164
05:02:34,700 --> 05:02:35,720
No significant impact.

3165
05:02:36,140 --> 05:02:41,660
Yet, we'll have brownouts and power outages all summer long, and let's shut down power

3166
05:02:41,660 --> 05:02:47,920
power plants and all that. So forgive me if I say this is traffic studies, power studies,

3167
05:02:48,100 --> 05:02:52,540
water studies are a bunch of hui when it comes to these kind of projects. And when you

3168
05:02:52,540 --> 05:02:56,340
look at the projects individually, yes, they're small. But when you add them all together,

3169
05:02:57,400 --> 05:02:59,640
then it creates a much, much bigger impact.

3170
05:03:00,840 --> 05:03:06,040
Your Honorable Mayor, Council members, and you are correct. But as other projects come

3171
05:03:06,040 --> 05:03:09,980
online, those other projects are now going to have to take these projects that have been

3172
05:03:09,980 --> 05:03:14,800
improved into play. And so they're going to have to evaluate the CEQA based on these

3173
05:03:14,800 --> 05:03:19,360
additional projects. So there could be changes in future projects as they come forth or

3174
05:03:19,360 --> 05:03:25,500
there could be they might not be able to get to the less than significant impact. Those

3175
05:03:25,500 --> 05:03:29,320
ones who get in here first are probably going to have an easier time than those ones that

3176
05:03:29,320 --> 05:03:30,660
come in later in the game.

3177
05:03:31,180 --> 05:03:32,380
I'm not going to hold my breath.

3178
05:03:35,440 --> 05:03:39,560
Anyway there's another issue I'm going to come back to the

3179
05:03:39,560 --> 05:03:45,080
traffic in a minute. There is literally and figuratively be a cloud over our council

3180
05:03:45,080 --> 05:03:52,920
about housing. Literally, there's raining outside. But figuratively, the cloud is that

3181
05:03:52,920 --> 05:03:57,600
we have the state watching over us. And this is something that's never happened before,

3182
05:03:58,740 --> 05:04:06,220
is that if we don't approve housing, the state's going to come down and punish us as a city.

3183
05:04:06,220 --> 05:04:11,840
And those punishments are severe, and they're not something that I want to see happen to our city.

3184
05:04:12,560 --> 05:04:17,440
And that, in my opinion, unfairly puts a burden on us as a council to potentially make

3185
05:04:17,440 --> 05:04:21,640
decisions that we don't think are necessarily best for our city.

3186
05:04:22,400 --> 05:04:26,680
I'm not referring necessarily to this particular project, I'm just speaking in general because

3187
05:04:26,680 --> 05:04:34,600
I want the public to understand that our decision making is now being affected by the folks in

3188
05:04:34,600 --> 05:04:44,100
Sacramento who are basically telling us what to do on how we do our planning of our communities.

3189
05:04:44,600 --> 05:04:46,460
And I really feel that that's wrong.

3190
05:04:46,600 --> 05:04:50,680
We should have the freedom to be able to choose what we think is best for our community.

3191
05:04:50,940 --> 05:04:53,320
Because we know our community is better than anyone.

3192
05:04:53,980 --> 05:05:01,320
And to have somebody Sacramento legislators who've never even been in our city telling us how we should and shouldn't build in our communities.

3193
05:05:02,060 --> 05:05:06,520
and penalizes if we don't meet their standards, I think, is 100% wrong.

3194
05:05:07,460 --> 05:05:10,660
And everyone knows who knows me, knows I've been fighting this for some time.

3195
05:05:13,060 --> 05:05:22,680
So I feel like I've learned a few things in my years on the council, and I want to do a little show-in-tell in regards to traffic.

3196
05:05:22,840 --> 05:05:28,940
I think I've been wanting to do this for quite some time, and so this project is giving me the opportunity to do this,

3197
05:05:28,940 --> 05:05:33,420
And to the developer, this is not a direct impact on you.

3198
05:05:33,800 --> 05:05:37,260
It is an opportunity for me to speak on the issue of traffic

3199
05:05:37,880 --> 05:05:41,480
and try to put some reality, at least what I believe.

3200
05:05:41,560 --> 05:05:42,900
This is my personal opinion.

3201
05:05:43,100 --> 05:05:43,620
It's not fact.

3202
05:05:43,800 --> 05:05:44,560
It's not scientific.

3203
05:05:45,340 --> 05:05:47,020
But I have some visual aids that I brought.

3204
05:05:48,280 --> 05:05:50,060
I'll do a little show and tell for everybody.

3205
05:05:52,960 --> 05:05:57,720
So this represents the city of Torrance Streets.

3206
05:05:57,720 --> 05:06:07,580
And all the little M&Ms inside this bucket are the cars that are in our city for the people who live here.

3207
05:06:08,260 --> 05:06:12,360
Everybody who lives here has a car, sometimes two, sometimes even three.

3208
05:06:12,920 --> 05:06:17,420
And sometimes households have three and four and five cars in a particular household.

3209
05:06:18,060 --> 05:06:21,140
So we've got a pretty good load of cars already in our city.

3210
05:06:21,700 --> 05:06:25,620
And so some people say our cities are already full.

3211
05:06:25,620 --> 05:06:31,500
And so when we talk about traffic studies, they look at traffic flow and things like that.

3212
05:06:31,800 --> 05:06:36,240
But I think what really needs to be done is to look at traffic from a traffic loading perspective.

3213
05:06:36,880 --> 05:06:41,560
And that's how many cars can we accommodate because the cars don't just sit in the garage.

3214
05:06:42,480 --> 05:06:47,760
When these people move into these projects, they have a car and it is true.

3215
05:06:47,880 --> 05:06:50,640
It is in their garage, but we all drive places.

3216
05:06:50,640 --> 05:06:55,420
And those that driving causes the traffic that we see every day on our roads.

3217
05:06:56,280 --> 05:07:04,060
And so, when we start doing all this stuff, we start impacting the traffic load in

3218
05:07:04,060 --> 05:07:04,800
our community.

3219
05:07:05,420 --> 05:07:09,820
And there's so many things that impact that traffic load and I want to try to demonstrate

3220
05:07:09,820 --> 05:07:11,140
that for you visually.

3221
05:07:11,460 --> 05:07:15,760
So, here we have this one project that being talked about here today and that's adding

3222
05:07:16,320 --> 05:07:19,320
a little extra traffic load to our city.

3223
05:07:20,440 --> 05:07:26,560
But when you start adding all the projects that are coming on board, you can see what

3224
05:07:26,560 --> 05:07:28,440
it's doing to the traffic load in our city.

3225
05:07:32,240 --> 05:07:35,600
And we have these kind of projects that are actually coming down our pipeline today.

3226
05:07:35,900 --> 05:07:37,440
These are not, this is not hypothetical.

3227
05:07:37,700 --> 05:07:40,940
This is projects that we've actually had people meet with.

3228
05:07:41,520 --> 05:07:46,360
And so we know that there's going to be this additional traffic load coming to us.

3229
05:07:47,980 --> 05:07:53,880
In addition to that, the traffic load that we have is during the daytime, our city grows

3230
05:07:53,880 --> 05:07:58,540
in population because of all the people that come to our city to work.

3231
05:07:59,500 --> 05:08:04,140
So that's an additional traffic load, it's a big load, over 100,000 people.

3232
05:08:05,100 --> 05:08:06,320
Oh geez, we're getting kind of full.

3233
05:08:14,030 --> 05:08:14,230
What?

3234
05:08:15,210 --> 05:08:16,090
You're hungry?

3235
05:08:16,610 --> 05:08:17,790
Don't worry, I got plenty.

3236
05:08:19,730 --> 05:08:26,110
So that's our daytime load and I realize that that disappears at night but it does still

3237
05:08:26,110 --> 05:08:30,810
impact our traffic that we see and we sit in at certain times of the day.

3238
05:08:31,810 --> 05:08:37,290
Then we talk about the building that's happening around our community that affects torrents

3239
05:08:37,290 --> 05:08:39,190
because torrents is a pass through city.

3240
05:08:40,250 --> 05:08:46,990
So we have building going on in Redondo Beach and on the hill and they're being mandated

3241
05:08:46,990 --> 05:08:51,230
by the state to build and build and build. And we have zero control over that.

3242
05:08:51,930 --> 05:08:54,650
But yet it adds to the traffic load, sorry.

3243
05:08:56,870 --> 05:08:59,230
And I don't want to make too big of a mess.

3244
05:08:59,370 --> 05:09:03,570
And I will clean it up, I promise. But I'm sorry, what?

3245
05:09:06,050 --> 05:09:06,990
I didn't eat one.

3246
05:09:07,790 --> 05:09:08,750
Oh, Johnson, okay.

3247
05:09:11,240 --> 05:09:15,600
And then we have the state coming into play. And they're mandating that we build

3248
05:09:16,640 --> 05:09:21,460
5,000 units, which could potentially be 10,000 cars.

3249
05:09:22,600 --> 05:09:28,220
Well, I got a lot more M&Ms here, but I don't think I'm going to make a big mass, but I think you're catching my point.

3250
05:09:29,040 --> 05:09:32,720
Is it all the stuff cumulatively adds up and adds up and adds up?

3251
05:09:32,800 --> 05:09:36,860
And that's why we're having a traffic problem, and nobody's talking about it.

3252
05:09:38,020 --> 05:09:40,780
And it drives me insane.

3253
05:09:40,780 --> 05:09:52,140
I've lost all my hair, it's a crazy time for me and I think that this is a piece that so many people are missing when we talk about approving these kind of projects.

3254
05:09:53,620 --> 05:10:02,320
Again, I'm not taking this out on the developer, it's just an opportunity for me to try to express my feelings about the whole growth in a community.

3255
05:10:02,320 --> 05:10:07,820
and how, yes, we're being forced to do all this, but at the same time, we're not spending

3256
05:10:07,820 --> 05:10:12,960
hardly any money on improving our traffic infrastructure, our streets and our roads.

3257
05:10:13,460 --> 05:10:18,100
Yes, we're trying to fix the potholes, we're repaving, but we're not building more roads

3258
05:10:18,100 --> 05:10:24,540
or expanding our roads to add for additional capacity and certainly transit is failing miserably,

3259
05:10:24,880 --> 05:10:29,740
at least in the South Bay. And to expect us to continue to do this and do this,

3260
05:10:29,740 --> 05:10:32,140
How is this going to improve our quality of life?

3261
05:10:32,460 --> 05:10:34,580
It's absolutely not going to.

3262
05:10:35,620 --> 05:10:38,940
And with that, I will start eating some M&Ms.

3263
05:10:39,360 --> 05:10:40,100
Anybody want some?

3264
05:10:40,260 --> 05:10:40,700
Come on up.

3265
05:10:43,270 --> 05:10:44,330
I'll plate it up later.

3266
05:10:45,110 --> 05:10:46,010
Thank you, sir.

3267
05:10:46,470 --> 05:10:46,930
You're welcome.

3268
05:10:48,130 --> 05:10:49,230
Council Member Lewis.

3269
05:10:50,030 --> 05:10:50,710
That was about the great.

3270
05:10:50,710 --> 05:10:53,370
That was about the greatest demonstration

3271
05:10:53,370 --> 05:10:56,770
of unfunded state mandates that I've ever seen.

3272
05:10:57,050 --> 05:10:59,330
And I'm going to help you do some traffic calming

3273
05:10:59,330 --> 05:11:00,110
a little bit later.

3274
05:11:00,110 --> 05:11:01,970
You're going to eat some M&Ms, right?

3275
05:11:02,330 --> 05:11:02,570
Oh, yeah.

3276
05:11:02,790 --> 05:11:05,010
I'm going to put that traffic control problem.

3277
05:11:06,370 --> 05:11:09,990
My quick question to community development

3278
05:11:09,990 --> 05:11:12,090
that does not have to do with M&Ms

3279
05:11:12,890 --> 05:11:17,970
and not for the legacy group is in this particular project

3280
05:11:17,970 --> 05:11:21,850
it's 200 units of luxury apartments

3281
05:11:21,850 --> 05:11:25,150
and that falls within one of the four arena categories

3282
05:11:25,150 --> 05:11:28,950
which I'm assuming at market is going to put it

3283
05:11:28,950 --> 05:11:35,770
above moderate income, which is 120 per cent for LA County.

3284
05:11:37,410 --> 05:11:44,830
Do we have a threshold where we have to start requiring developers to offer some type

3285
05:11:44,830 --> 05:11:55,490
of affordable housing, and I know a new category popped up that I need some more help with,

3286
05:11:55,490 --> 05:12:05,850
which is the very low and ultra low income housing, which we have to do 1,600 units of that in the next eight years.

3287
05:12:06,490 --> 05:12:10,710
So that's going to be interesting about where that is going to lead us.

3288
05:12:11,890 --> 05:12:25,030
Your Honourable Mayor, Council Members, Michelle Ramirez, Community Development Director, we are not mandated to have an inclusionary housing is which you would be looking for.

3289
05:12:25,030 --> 05:12:31,770
that inclusionary housing where you're requiring a certain percentage of affordable housing with the market rate housing.

3290
05:12:32,410 --> 05:12:39,470
If that was something that this council wanted to stop to look into and bring back that's something we definitely could do,

3291
05:12:39,730 --> 05:12:53,510
there is no requirement at this time. The housing element what it requires is just show that we have enough sites within our community to build the different levels of housing that the rena numbers have produced.

3292
05:12:53,510 --> 05:12:59,450
And we have done that our housing element has been certified, so the state has acknowledged

3293
05:12:59,450 --> 05:13:04,690
that the sites that we have given them that meet the income limits for that housing to

3294
05:13:04,690 --> 05:13:05,790
be developed at this time.

3295
05:13:06,150 --> 05:13:10,170
Doesn't mean that we necessarily have to build it, we have to show that we have the sites

3296
05:13:10,170 --> 05:13:15,530
for it, and then we have to also show that when developers come forth to produce these types

3297
05:13:15,530 --> 05:13:20,290
of housing that we are looking at them, and if we weren't going to approve it, we have

3298
05:13:20,290 --> 05:13:25,050
to come up with significant reasons why we were not going to approve it other than it's

3299
05:13:25,050 --> 05:13:32,270
just not something that we don't like or because there's too many M&M's on the road.

3300
05:13:33,350 --> 05:13:38,430
I'm here I get rid of some of those M&M's just to the legacy group this is not this is just

3301
05:13:38,430 --> 05:13:44,990
for us to educate ourselves and the community on what's to come and you guys just happen to be

3302
05:13:44,990 --> 05:13:51,870
the first one's up at bat, and as the representative for District 2, I do appreciate the community

3303
05:13:51,870 --> 05:13:53,670
engagement and the communication.

3304
05:13:54,010 --> 05:13:59,390
I see Laurie Craig in the audience working with our homeowners groups to make sure that

3305
05:13:59,390 --> 05:14:02,970
this project definitely does fit into our community profile.

3306
05:14:03,550 --> 05:14:10,750
So thank you, Mr. Montgomery-Maria's for working that out because as we're seeing there's going

3307
05:14:10,750 --> 05:14:18,690
to be a couple of projects that are coming up very tightly within this space off of popcorn

3308
05:14:18,690 --> 05:14:23,710
boulevard and we just want the community to know that we're just not rubber stamping

3309
05:14:23,710 --> 05:14:31,970
it because we want to build the community or make it more dense. It's because we have

3310
05:14:31,970 --> 05:14:38,290
to accommodate our housing needs assessment. So thank you. I'm going to go eat some

3311
05:14:38,290 --> 05:14:38,850
cars now.

3312
05:14:41,300 --> 05:14:48,780
Thank you council member Lewis council member shake back to you thank you mayor I

3313
05:14:50,790 --> 05:14:51,170
hope I'm

3314
05:14:51,170 --> 05:14:56,110
not giving the message that I do not like the project I like and I appreciate you bringing these

3315
05:14:56,930 --> 05:14:59,870
nice projects some good projects gonna bring

3316
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:03,160
A lot of jobs to our community, members to all the workers.

3317
05:15:05,400 --> 05:15:28,540
But the cars, the traffic is definitely a big concern. But that's the concern, I think we have to also look into the future. What will that do to our community? It's going to compromise the quality of life. And hence, we are hoping to have Metro Line C extension that will impact

3318
05:15:28,540 --> 05:15:31,460
in a positive way, hopefully,

3319
05:15:34,660 --> 05:15:40,140
but I, again, I wanted to emphasize and make sure that all

3320
05:15:40,140 --> 05:15:47,780
you understand, I'm not against your project, I'm not against building what is required

3321
05:15:48,390 --> 05:15:54,960
unless we find an alternative, but it is required, we need to meet our code, we're going to get

3322
05:15:54,960 --> 05:15:57,700
penalized, and it's going to bring a lot of jobs.

3323
05:16:00,150 --> 05:16:03,550
Again, I think we can do better.

3324
05:16:04,170 --> 05:16:07,250
We can really do something that's 50

3325
05:16:09,390 --> 05:16:14,690
years from today. People say, yeah, these developers,

3326
05:16:14,690 --> 05:16:20,170
they brought something to this Torrance community. And as leaders, we say, hey, we gave something

3327
05:16:20,170 --> 05:16:25,430
to the community that will have an example for the future developers to come and give us

3328
05:16:26,490 --> 05:16:32,030
nice or creative model. That's what I'm saying. I'm requesting you to consider

3329
05:16:33,090 --> 05:16:41,270
the outside of the box. You will have an opportunity to bring more designs,

3330
05:16:41,670 --> 05:16:48,510
more buildings here, but be creative. And you know, bad or good building,

3331
05:16:48,810 --> 05:16:52,170
possibly it's not going to be a huge difference as far as cost is concerned.

3332
05:16:54,850 --> 05:16:55,410
With

3333
05:16:55,410 --> 05:17:01,130
bring some creative designs. That's all I got to say. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

3334
05:17:03,600 --> 05:17:03,600
you.

3335
05:17:03,600 --> 05:17:05,340
Thank you, Councilmember Kaji.

3336
05:17:07,360 --> 05:17:08,340
Thank you, Your Honor.

3337
05:17:10,420 --> 05:17:14,160
I want to first speak to the issues

3338
05:17:14,160 --> 05:17:17,000
raised by the appellant tonight.

3339
05:17:19,140 --> 05:17:23,700
I heard both the presentation made also the rebuttal by

3340
05:17:23,700 --> 05:17:34,720
the developer. And as I read the information provided prior to tonight's meeting and also

3341
05:17:34,720 --> 05:17:43,900
listen to the presentations, I find sometimes these challenges under SEQUA to be somewhat

3342
05:17:43,900 --> 05:17:53,040
But disingenuous, while I do understand that development does come with a price that

3343
05:17:54,240 --> 05:18:00,520
it's important to of course stand up and protect the residents and the users of these

3344
05:18:00,520 --> 05:18:07,540
new developments, however, sometimes I believe that some of these challenges are simply obstructions

3345
05:18:07,540 --> 05:18:11,800
to what I believe is necessary development.

3346
05:18:12,580 --> 05:18:18,100
When I do listen to the business community, both that exist in Torrance and maybe new

3347
05:18:18,100 --> 05:18:25,040
companies that may want to be here in the city, quality housing is a huge factor.

3348
05:18:25,940 --> 05:18:31,380
As many of you know, we used to be the home of Toyota Motor Sales, which moved to Texas

3349
05:18:31,380 --> 05:18:32,720
along with their supplier chain.

3350
05:18:33,660 --> 05:18:41,400
The lack of quality housing in addition to taxes was, you know, one of the issues that

3351
05:18:41,400 --> 05:18:44,340
forced them and other companies to leave the state.

3352
05:18:44,720 --> 05:18:51,640
So I do believe that here in Torrance, it's time that we look at adding new housing.

3353
05:18:52,000 --> 05:18:56,880
If we want to attract those companies under economic development who are going to make significant

3354
05:18:56,880 --> 05:18:59,680
contributions to our local economy.

3355
05:18:59,680 --> 05:19:11,720
But going back to the case made by the appellant, I don't find it to be compelling enough for me to support the appeal, so I just want to come right out and state that.

3356
05:19:13,140 --> 05:19:24,620
As some of the other members, Mr. Griffith raised, when it comes to energy, I didn't see any inclusion of solar energy or sustainability.

3357
05:19:24,620 --> 05:19:30,940
So I'd like to encourage the developer, since I have seen other residential, multi-family

3358
05:19:30,940 --> 05:19:38,080
residential projects that do include a solar array, to consider that, to help to, and

3359
05:19:38,770 --> 05:19:41,880
I don't know if staff saw that or is that included.

3360
05:19:42,620 --> 05:19:43,400
Did I miss it?

3361
05:19:44,700 --> 05:19:48,540
Your Honor and Members of the Council, Officer Martinez from the Development Department.

3362
05:19:49,040 --> 05:19:53,440
I believe the current total 24 apartments do require a solar component to the building

3363
05:19:53,440 --> 05:19:53,760
plans.

3364
05:19:53,760 --> 05:19:56,780
Okay. Sorry, I got distracted by the M&Ms.

3365
05:19:59,000 --> 05:20:04,680
Lastly, I do appreciate the comments made by

3366
05:20:07,320 --> 05:20:13,460
the Apprenticeship Program and the trades. We are an active member of the South Bay Workforce

3367
05:20:13,460 --> 05:20:21,720
Investment Board. I know that we do support vocational arts and training. So, I'd like

3368
05:20:21,720 --> 05:20:29,880
to encourage the developer to ensure that there is a reach out to including local contractors.

3369
05:20:31,360 --> 05:20:38,240
It's not a condition to the project, however, you are entering the city of Torrance in the South Bay.

3370
05:20:38,840 --> 05:20:45,940
So I think it would be vital for you to engage those businesses, also those workers who do live in the South Bay.

3371
05:20:47,040 --> 05:20:49,800
I'd like to ensure that that happens.

3372
05:20:49,800 --> 05:20:51,040
Thank you very much.

3373
05:20:55,250 --> 05:20:57,510
Thank you. Any other comments from the council?

3374
05:20:59,830 --> 05:21:04,850
I personally would like to say that a lot of information was gathered here tonight.

3375
05:21:05,110 --> 05:21:12,370
I just want to thank the developers, the appellants, the homeowners association,

3376
05:21:13,150 --> 05:21:18,310
the workforce that's here, the planning commission, the residents, the staff.

3377
05:21:19,270 --> 05:21:25,350
A lot of passion went into everybody's thought processes, and the discussion was good.

3378
05:21:25,570 --> 05:21:30,230
I just wanted to say that, and with that, if there's no other comments, we've got

3379
05:21:30,230 --> 05:21:31,510
a motion and we go.

3380
05:21:32,450 --> 05:21:33,110
I'm sorry.

3381
05:21:33,250 --> 05:21:34,430
We got another click in.

3382
05:21:35,030 --> 05:21:35,310
I'm sorry.

3383
05:21:35,730 --> 05:21:41,470
My fault, but you just said something that I meant to go back around to the appellant

3384
05:21:41,470 --> 05:21:50,430
and say that in the presentation and the cross-presentation I heard some room for some conversations

3385
05:21:50,430 --> 05:21:51,570
to take place.

3386
05:21:51,770 --> 05:21:59,510
I believe that the developer addressed one of the issues that the appellant had and please

3387
05:21:59,510 --> 05:22:00,810
correct me if I'm wrong.

3388
05:22:00,930 --> 05:22:08,110
I think there was one more that honestly from where I'm sitting could probably have a mutually

3389
05:22:08,110 --> 05:22:17,250
beneficial agreement if if the two parties could sit down and just talk through it. And I don't

3390
05:22:17,250 --> 05:22:21,270
know where the appellant went on. He's back there. There was just the one of the things I think

3391
05:22:21,270 --> 05:22:26,970
the developer addressed and then there was one more. We can't we can't actually talk the audience

3392
05:22:26,970 --> 05:22:32,450
less. You reopen the public hearing. Well, okay, so so can somebody confirm for me there was one more?

3393
05:22:32,450 --> 05:22:33,330
Correct.

3394
05:22:33,730 --> 05:22:33,930
Okay.

3395
05:22:35,130 --> 05:22:42,350
So without opening up the hearing, I think that it would be an opportunity for maybe the

3396
05:22:42,350 --> 05:22:48,170
two sides to gather up and address the concerns.

3397
05:22:48,630 --> 05:22:48,910
Thank you.

3398
05:22:52,880 --> 05:22:53,940
Thank you very much.

3399
05:22:54,610 --> 05:22:57,460
So does Council wish to take action on this matter?

3400
05:22:58,680 --> 05:23:00,100
Yes, Mayor Bracant.

3401
05:23:01,000 --> 05:23:05,320
I've heard a lot of our, you know, back and forth arguments and a lot of legitimate

3402
05:23:05,320 --> 05:23:11,900
concerns, but we are faced with what we're faced with a housing shortage or at least according

3403
05:23:11,900 --> 05:23:12,460
to Rina.

3404
05:23:13,740 --> 05:23:16,300
We do have a shortage of power.

3405
05:23:16,620 --> 05:23:21,340
I know that because our park goes out in the summertime for a few hours at a time.

3406
05:23:21,400 --> 05:23:26,240
We have a shortage of water and a lot of traffic, but those are things that we're going to have

3407
05:23:26,240 --> 05:23:28,680
to handle and deal with as we go along.

3408
05:23:29,320 --> 05:23:32,140
We can't punish one particular project

3409
05:23:32,140 --> 05:23:34,100
or we were in a few projects

3410
05:23:34,920 --> 05:23:37,200
because of the lack of action from the state.

3411
05:23:37,460 --> 05:23:40,040
But having said that, I would like to move

3412
05:23:40,040 --> 05:23:41,760
that we had denied the appeal

3413
05:23:41,760 --> 05:23:44,420
adopt the sustainable community's environmental assessment

3414
05:23:44,420 --> 05:23:47,220
and adopt resolutions of really the conditional use permit

3415
05:23:47,220 --> 05:23:48,680
for the development permit.

3416
05:23:49,700 --> 05:23:52,480
I second that after the reading of the resolutions.

3417
05:23:53,680 --> 05:24:08,820
Thank you and I just clicked in real quick because there was one other group of people that I didn't acknowledge and that was all of the written correspondence. I want to acknowledge it was received. It was reviewed by us and we appreciate that as well. Thank you for the interruption.

3418
05:24:09,280 --> 05:24:25,380
Actually, there's more to the motion if you want to just adopt the staff recommendation if you don't want to read it through it all, but there's also a modification or the modification of a lot precise plan on number three and a division of a lot.

3419
05:24:25,480 --> 05:24:34,340
Well, how about with this? Let's go with the recommendation of the planning commission and the committee of the development to direct their city council items one, two, and three. That'll work.

3420
05:24:48,960 --> 05:24:59,100
I don't think it's necessary, but I'll amend the motion to include tier 4.

3421
05:25:03,330 --> 05:25:10,590
After the reading and acceptance of the resolution, including the tier 4 modification, I second that motion.

3422
05:25:17,550 --> 05:25:19,410
Your Honor, would you like me to start reading the resolution?

3423
05:25:20,110 --> 05:25:20,550
Yes, please.

3424
05:25:21,190 --> 05:25:24,090
The first is resolution number 2023-24.

3425
05:25:24,630 --> 05:25:29,430
The resolution of the City Council, the City of Torrance, California, adopting a sustainable community,

3426
05:25:30,310 --> 05:25:38,790
environmental assessment for the Delomo Circle residential apartments projects in accordance with the California Environmental Quality Act.

3427
05:25:39,810 --> 05:25:45,770
The second is Resolution No. 2023-25, a resolution of the City Council of the City of

3428
05:25:45,770 --> 05:25:51,870
Torrance, California, approving a conditional use permit as provided for Division 9. Chapter

3429
05:25:51,870 --> 05:25:57,370
5, Article 1 of the Torrance Municipal Code, to allow the construction of a 200-unit apartment

3430
05:25:57,370 --> 05:26:04,690
complex and parking structure on properties located in the H-DA1 zone at the north-east

3431
05:26:04,690 --> 05:26:20,530
of Carson Street and the Lomo Circle drive APN 7525-023-034 and 7525-023-035. Resolution number

3432
05:26:20,530 --> 05:26:26,290
2023-26, the resolution of the City Council of the City of Torrance, California, approving

3433
05:26:26,290 --> 05:26:31,690
a development permit as provided for in Division 9, Chapter 1, Article 45 of the Torrance

3434
05:26:31,690 --> 05:26:40,270
to allow the construction of a 200 unit apartment complex and parking structure on properties located in the H-DA-1 zone

3435
05:26:40,270 --> 05:26:55,670
at the northeast circle corner, northeast corner of Carson Street and the Lomo Circle Drive, APN 7525-023-034 and 7525-023-3-035.

3436
05:26:57,190 --> 05:27:02,450
Resolution number 2023-27, a resolution of the City Council of the City of

3437
05:27:02,450 --> 05:27:08,090
Torrance, California, approving a division of law, as provided for Division 9, Chapter 2,

3438
05:27:08,150 --> 05:27:13,610
Article 29 of the Torrance Minus Code, to merge two parcels into one on properties

3439
05:27:13,610 --> 05:27:19,310
located in the H-DA-1 zone at the northeast corner of Carson Street and

3440
05:27:19,310 --> 05:27:33,650
Alamo Circle Drive, APN 752-5023-034, and 752-023-035, and lastly, Resolution Number 20-23-28.

3441
05:27:34,070 --> 05:27:38,490
A resolution of the City Council, the City of Torrance, California, approving a modification

3442
05:27:38,490 --> 05:27:46,030
of a previously approved precise plan of development, parentheses Pp65-38, as provided for

3443
05:27:46,030 --> 05:28:11,450
Division 9, Chapter 6, Article 2 of the Torrance Municipal Code to allow the construction of a 200 unit apartment complex and parking structure on properties located in the H-DA-1 zone at the North East corner of Carson Street and the Lama Circle Drive APN 7525-023-034 and 7525-023-035.

3444
05:28:12,530 --> 05:28:27,370
Motion to include the adoption of Resolutions 2023-24, 2023-25, 2023-26, 2023-27, and 2023-28.

3445
05:28:27,810 --> 05:28:28,790
And I second that.

3446
05:28:29,790 --> 05:28:31,190
Start voting please.

3447
05:28:37,520 --> 05:28:41,960
Your Honor, that motion carries with Council Member Shake voting no and Mayor Chen absent.

3448
05:28:43,640 --> 05:28:44,380
Thank you.

3449
05:28:45,700 --> 05:28:49,020
We'll go ahead then and thank you to everyone.

3450
05:28:51,140 --> 05:28:52,080
We're going to go ahead.

3451
05:28:52,300 --> 05:28:59,980
I don't see any things scheduled under agency agendas so we'll move on to item number 12,

3452
05:29:00,360 --> 05:29:01,920
a second reading ordinance.

3453
05:29:06,100 --> 05:29:11,440
Honour, this is ordinance number 3913 and ordinance of the City Council of the City of Orange.

3454
05:29:11,440 --> 05:29:13,340
I'm sorry, do you want to wait just a minute?

3455
05:29:13,340 --> 05:29:14,300
Could

3456
05:29:17,980 --> 05:29:23,960
we please have some quiet in chambers so that we can continue our business matters for this evening? Thank you.

3457
05:29:24,760 --> 05:29:25,800
Please proceed.

3458
05:29:27,060 --> 05:29:32,220
Your Honor, that was ordinance 3913 in ordinance of the City Council of the City of Torrance, California.

3459
05:29:32,420 --> 05:29:37,320
Amending the Torrance Municipal Code to add a new Article 8 of Chapter 1 of Division 1.

3460
05:29:38,020 --> 05:29:43,320
parentheses 11.8.010 authorizing the use of electronic signature.

3461
05:29:46,120 --> 05:29:47,820
Any comments from the council?

3462
05:29:52,220 --> 05:29:52,820
I see none.

3463
05:29:53,260 --> 05:29:55,340
Do we have any public comments on this item?

3464
05:29:55,340 --> 05:29:59,760
move to adopt ordinance number 39.

3465
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:04,340
13. Second. Start voting, please.

3466
05:30:07,100 --> 05:30:11,400
Your Honor, that motion carries with Mayor Chen absent. Thank

3467
05:30:11,400 --> 05:30:18,440
you. We're now moving on to item 12 V. Your Honor, this is ordinance number 3914 and

3468
05:30:18,440 --> 05:30:23,720
ordinance of the city council of the city of Torrance, California. I'm ending sections 46.1.2,

3469
05:30:24,080 --> 05:30:31,940
definitions and 46.7.3 exceptions of division for public health and welfare. Chapter 6, noise

3470
05:30:31,940 --> 05:30:37,400
regulation of the Torrance Municipal Code to exempt stationary generators for residential

3471
05:30:37,400 --> 05:30:40,480
use from the city of Torrance noise regulation.

3472
05:30:42,300 --> 05:30:43,940
Any comments from the council?

3473
05:30:45,820 --> 05:30:46,820
I see none.

3474
05:30:47,540 --> 05:30:49,120
Any comments from the public?

3475
05:30:51,900 --> 05:30:55,240
Move to a dot ordinance number 3914.

3476
05:30:56,000 --> 05:30:56,100
Sorry.

3477
05:30:56,480 --> 05:30:57,760
Sorry voting please.

3478
05:30:59,320 --> 05:31:01,600
You're on that motion carries with Mayor Chen absent.

3479
05:31:02,620 --> 05:31:06,300
Thank you. We're now moving on to item number 12c.

3480
05:31:10,570 --> 05:31:18,450
This is ordinance number 3915 in ordinance of the city council of the city of Torrents, California repealing ordinance number 3752

3481
05:31:18,450 --> 05:31:32,510
and granting to fill up 66 company, a Delaware corporation, a franchise to construct, lay, operate, test, maintain, use, renew, repair, replace, move, and remove or abandon in place the system of pipelines and

3482
05:31:33,190 --> 05:31:46,090
for the purpose of conducting, transporting, conveying and carrying gas, oil, petroleum products, and water on, along in, under and across public streets, ways, alleys, and places within the city of Torrent.

3483
05:31:49,420 --> 05:31:50,340
You're going to ask?

3484
05:31:51,420 --> 05:31:53,360
Yes, ma'am, I have a motion.

3485
05:31:53,640 --> 05:31:54,920
Oh, I thought you were going to ask for the public.

3486
05:31:54,980 --> 05:31:59,500
Oh, forgive me. It is late. Any comment from the council?

3487
05:32:02,720 --> 05:32:05,180
Anyone from the public wish to be heard on this item?

3488
05:32:06,360 --> 05:32:09,160
move to adopt ordinance number 3915.

3489
05:32:09,360 --> 05:32:09,760
Aye.

3490
05:32:09,880 --> 05:32:10,060
Second.

3491
05:32:10,500 --> 05:32:11,220
Third voting, please.

3492
05:32:12,700 --> 05:32:15,240
Your Honor, that motion carried with Mayor Ken Afton.

3493
05:32:19,680 --> 05:32:20,060
Thank you.

3494
05:32:20,200 --> 05:32:23,220
We're now moving on to oral communications number two.

3495
05:32:23,580 --> 05:32:28,800
This portion of the meeting is reserved for comment on items not on the agenda under the

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Ralph M. Brown Act.

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City Council cannot act on items raised during public comment, but may respond briefly to statements

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made or questions posed.

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request clarification, or refer the item to staff.

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Speakers under Orals are limited to either oral communications number one, or oral communications

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number two, and no longer than one minute per speaker.

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Speakers please turn off or leave your cellular phones when you come to the podium to speak.

3503
05:32:56,720 --> 05:33:02,760
If presenting handout materials to counsel, please provide 10 copies to the city clerk before

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speaking.

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Starting at 12.03, is there anyone in the audience that would like to speak on behalf

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05:33:12,140 --> 05:33:14,560
of a oral communication number two?

3507
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Shall we go on with Councilor Orals?

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Councilmember Kaji.

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Good morning and good night.

3510
05:33:33,630 --> 05:33:34,330
Thank you.

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Councilmember Lewis.

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05:33:36,130 --> 05:33:36,290
Yes.

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I just wanted to let all of our residents with Torrance know that we had a very successful

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advocacy trip to Washington, T.C. to advocate on behalf of the city, and I wanted to thank

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all of the staff members that made our trip possible, including our legislative gurus that

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set up our schedule in our meeting.

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05:34:01,290 --> 05:34:03,030
We hope to do that again soon.

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05:34:03,030 --> 05:34:09,370
It was very productive conversations that occurred on behalf of our city.

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05:34:09,890 --> 05:34:12,390
So thank you all and one go back.

3520
05:34:12,650 --> 05:34:15,150
Happy birthday, Rebecca, belated birthday.

3521
05:34:19,010 --> 05:34:20,810
Thank you, Councilmember Matucci.

3522
05:34:22,230 --> 05:34:23,970
I have nothing tonight.

3523
05:34:27,760 --> 05:34:29,760
Thank you, Councilmember Schick.

3524
05:34:32,680 --> 05:34:33,200
Thank you, Mayor.

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05:34:34,580 --> 05:34:39,660
I believe on there's going to be a drive-through event that is coming up

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05:34:39,660 --> 05:34:46,380
For residents, they can safely toss out their hazardous household waste like paint, e-vist

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05:34:47,380 --> 05:34:50,840
on March the 15th.

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05:34:51,100 --> 05:35:03,100
And for more information, go to lacsd.org forward slash hhw or you can call 424-552-0930.

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And

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I also want to congratulate the Torrance Memorial Hospital as well as a little company

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of Mary Medical Center to be listed among the top best hospital in the United States.

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That was released recently and I also want to thank the staff for taking us to the DC that

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we had a great advocacy trip.

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We learned quite a few new items and I want to thank staff for supporting us.

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We are at very informative, educational, and fun trip.

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05:35:41,220 --> 05:35:41,540
Thank you.

3537
05:35:43,020 --> 05:35:44,100
Thank you, sir.

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Council Member Timber Griffith.

3539
05:35:47,360 --> 05:35:48,080
Thank you.

3540
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No more visual aids for tonight.

3541
05:35:51,300 --> 05:35:55,420
Yeah, I want to also comment on the trip to Washington, D.C.

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That my colleagues, Council Member Sheik, and also Council Member Lewis attended as well as several members of our staff

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05:36:04,520 --> 05:36:09,860
led by our assistant city manager Danny Santana. I thought it was a fabulous trip.

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We've asked for many, many millions of dollars and I'm reasonably confident that in large

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part to the efforts of staff and our advocacy out there in front of the agencies and legislators

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that we were lobbying, that I think we will be getting many millions of dollars for the benefit of

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05:36:28,400 --> 05:36:35,540
city. So I think the trip was well worth it. And I think that's one of the things that

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sets torrents apart from other cities. A lot of cities don't have the capacity or will

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05:36:39,740 --> 05:36:46,000
power to send a delegation to talk to their legislators and the agencies that have money

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05:36:46,000 --> 05:36:51,000
to dole out. And that's why we get some and some of them don't. And so I think that's what

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helps us apart from many other cities. So thank you staff for that and all your efforts

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efforts to make that trip successful, looking forward to the state trip as well coming up.

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And I think the only thing for me is I wish everybody a happy St. Patrick's Day on Friday.

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05:37:08,080 --> 05:37:08,680
Thank you.

3555
05:37:08,980 --> 05:37:10,020
Thank you very much.

3556
05:37:10,260 --> 05:37:11,700
And I have some amendments if everybody's interested.

3557
05:37:12,200 --> 05:37:13,000
Thank you.

3558
05:37:13,580 --> 05:37:16,180
I actually have a quickly have a few things.

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The next performance of the Torrance Theatre Company is wild with happy.

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performances are from April 1st through April 22nd at 1316 Cabrillo Avenue in

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downtown Torrance. You can go to www.torrancetheatercompany.com to get your

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tickets and reservations today. Thank you. I want to thank you for the honor and

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trust of being your Mayor Pro Tem this evening. I wish Mayor and Mrs. Chen a

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safe and prosperous trip as he meets with and establishes relationships with

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05:37:53,680 --> 05:38:00,400
friendship cities. And finally, I would like to kind of bring back up the fact

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that this Monday, many people around the world and in many different countries are

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going to be celebrating the change of season to the new year. In my family it's

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actually called No-Rooz.

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05:38:14,520 --> 05:38:16,740
Many other people will be celebrating as well.

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05:38:17,120 --> 05:38:20,620
So for my Persian family and friends throughout the world,

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I want to say a De Shumomobarak and Rooza Hubi Dashtibashid.

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Happy New Year and have a good day.

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05:38:30,620 --> 05:38:30,940
OK.

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05:38:31,520 --> 05:38:35,380
So with that, the council will be recessing into closed session.

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We're not done yet this evening to confer with the city manager

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05:38:38,260 --> 05:38:42,320
and city attorney on the agenda manners listed under 14A

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05:38:42,320 --> 05:38:44,160
conference with labor negotiators.

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05:38:44,160 --> 05:38:48,560
and 14-B conference with legal counsel existing litigation.

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A closed session on these matters is authorized by California Government Code Section 54957-546.9D1.

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And we'll be back with you soon.

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Morning. We're going to call the meeting back to order an open session at 1-0-1-am. We have been in closed session, city manager. Do you have any actions to report? Nothing to report your honor. Thank you. Thank you. We will now reconvene our city council meeting. As we conclude this evening's meeting, I want to thank you for your active participation and interest in staying informed. Your involvement continues to help shape

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Torrance, and keep us moving forward.

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06:32:14,750 --> 06:32:20,190
As a reminder, as Commissioner Whit mentioned earlier tonight, this week kicks off the

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Social Services Commission's annual toiletry drive from March 17 through March 31.

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06:32:26,470 --> 06:32:31,570
This year's drive will help those experiencing homelessness in the city of Torrance and

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06:32:31,570 --> 06:32:39,210
benefit nonprofit agencies including Family Promise, 1736 Crisis Center, Harbor Interfaith

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Services.

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06:32:39,670 --> 06:32:46,070
Donation bins will be located in the City Hall lobby, City Hall West Annex, Katie Geysert,

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Civic Center Library, and the East Annex Permanent Center.

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06:32:50,010 --> 06:33:00,750
Visit torrentca.gov or call 310-618-5880 or email Social Services Commission at torrentca.gov

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for more information.

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06:33:02,270 --> 06:33:04,130
Thank you again for joining us tonight.

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the next regularly scheduled City Council meeting takes place on Tuesday, April 11th.

3594
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Have a good night and thank you. I'll now take a motion to adjourn.

3595
06:33:19,060 --> 06:33:19,800
So moved.

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06:33:25,260 --> 06:33:27,440
Anybody? Second.

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06:33:30,220 --> 06:33:31,940
I'll add you. Thanks.

3598
06:33:36,560 --> 06:33:37,120
You vote no.

3599
06:33:53,760 --> 06:33:55,760
Oh my God it's not letting me click the vote.

3600
06:33:57,920 --> 06:34:00,540
We can do it.

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Start voting please.

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Councilmember Lewis.

3603
06:34:17,270 --> 06:34:17,950
You don't want to go home?

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06:34:27,560 --> 06:34:29,560
That motion carries the councilmember shake voting,

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now in Mayor Chen absent.

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06:34:31,780 --> 06:34:32,940
Thank you, good night.