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All right, we're going to bounce right into our regular city council meeting. It's 7 p.m. Welcome, everyone.

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Before we get a call to order, I just want to let everybody know that this meeting tonight is a joint meeting

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of the city council and the Tracy Operating Partnership Joint Powers Authorities Board.

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So again, thank you, everyone, for coming.

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If you could all please stand and join me for the Pledge of Allegiance and remain standing

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if you wish for the invocation by Pastor Tim Heinrich from Crossroads Baptist Church.

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It's not here. I don't see him. All right, with that being said, everybody can have a seat.

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Get a roll call, please.

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Councilman Ariola.

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Present.

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Councilman Ransom.

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Present.

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Councilman Vargas.

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Here.

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May I approach him young?

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Present.

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And Mayor Rickman.

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Here.

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All right.

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Consent color.

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Anybody want to pull anything from consent?

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Anybody for the audience, we should pull anything from consent.

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All right.

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I have one, I think.

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Let me hold, give me one second.

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Okay.

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All right. I'm going to want to pull item 1j make a motion to approve consent Titan agenda minus 1j

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I'll second that motion in real call, please

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Councilman vagus. Yes. Councilman Renson. Yes. Councilmember areola. Yes. Me approach him young. Yes. And me recommend. Yes.

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I get a staff report.

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I'll be happy to do that in the absence of Midori.

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So ad hoc subcommittees are of a limited duration.

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They're temporary.

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We established, have formally established an ad hoc for the homelessness strategic plan

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purposes, comprised of Council Member Ransom and Council Member Areola.

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It expires at the end of the calendar year.

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And so typically you have to re-establish the ad hoc committees and that is what

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we're doing this evening under consent. And so this will run from January 1st through

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June 30th, 2020. Six months, this should allow the ad hoc committee to complete the strategic

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plan and then also bring back anything related to the feasibility of temporary shelter.

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And it's as simple as that. That concludes my report.

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All right. Thank you. Anybody from the audience wish to comment on Item 1J?

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And one of the things that at least some confusion, some members of the community, and myself too,

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is with the ad hoc committee, and we have the homeless task force, so where does one

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begin and one end?

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What would you like to answer that?

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It doesn't matter.

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Okay.

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I mean, you're one part of the ad hoc.

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Okay, so I'm part of the ad hoc and this Council also made me an official liaison to the Homelessness Task Force.

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The Homelessness Task Force is a separate entity from the City Council.

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The City Council's ad hoc committee brings recommendations for policy decisions in relations to strategic policies that we as a Council can vote on,

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where as the homelessness task force is a collaboration of service providers and people

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who are concerned with resolving the homelessness issue in the community, the homelessness task

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force has participated in the team of care which actually made it possible for the city

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to actually qualify for the funding for the strategic planning grant. But the homelessness

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task force is an entity that is not a decision maker. They can only advocate on behalf and

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to bring those concerns to the city council.

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So although I bring that information for the task force,

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the ad hoc committee of Areola and myself

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meet with the city manager, we meet with Midori,

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we meet with the city staff,

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and we bring policy recommendations

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based on the meetings that we have regarding homelessness.

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And one more, yeah, these are, I mean, I have a couple of concerns, and one of them was being,

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and this is one of my concerns, is the

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internship with your organization, the SOA Seed Melinda,

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I think her name is.

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Melinda, she's not a SOA Seed intern.

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SOA Seed Community Foundation, my employees.

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Yeah, I just want to know where this fits in.

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has nothing to do with the homelessness task force. We don't serve homelessness as gets

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implied here by people on the council. We do not get grants for homelessness. Melinda

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Ramirez is a graduate student at University of Chico or Chico State University and she

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interns with me in regards to my position on city council. Has nothing to do with

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my day job. Melinda is not paid.

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Okay. I have a letter from the Melinda Ramirez. The reason I'm asking is that you're right.

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It says, I'm a senior at CSU Chico Study and Sociology.

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And my internship involves 240 hours that will be devoted to working on the issue of homelessness and Tracy.

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So my question is,

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is that working as part of the ad hoc committee?

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Is that working as your organization in regards to the task force or just working for the

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task force?

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Melinda is an intern.

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As a city council member, I have the right to have interns.

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I'm just saying you know how things work.

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So Melinda is my intern as a council member.

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She is assigned to different tasks through me in relation to the issues of homelessness.

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She also has experience for the last several years working in the issue of homelessness helping to put together shelters.

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She's worked for several shelters in the city that I will not name.

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And she's also worked as a case manager for the issues of homelessness in regards to helping make sure that we are resolving the issue of homelessness.

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So as a council member, I have her as an intern to do research for me.

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I've had to research different models that I've been interested in proposing to the city,

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such as the Santa Ana referral-only shelter model.

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I've had her research, you know, similar-sized cities, job program from homelessness, different

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sort of collaborations for homelessness.

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She does not make any decisions.

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She just does tasks that I assigned to her based on the guidelines of her professor.

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She has 240 hours of specific strategic research tasks that she needs to complete.

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And I provide a grade and feedback to her professor, very similar to when I was a professor and

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I had interns that worked out in the community.

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We needed to make sure that their work was quality work and making a contribution to

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the community.

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So that's her service and that's her requirement for her school.

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And I do that as a council member.

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So she's not working for SOASED?

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It does not have a job with SOCI. She's not.

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So she's interning with you in your official capacity as council member.

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But she does.

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And she also assists me with tasks for that.

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She's a member of the Tracy Community Homelessness Task Force,

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which is, she's a member of that,

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as well as a bunch of other members in the community.

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Okay. No, that's, that was my three main questions is, you know,

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where is the line?

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I mean, I see it as a convoluted myself is that you have two organizations, one the ad hoc,

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one being the homeless task force, and where does one start and one begin?

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Well, the homeless task force cannot make any decisions for this council.

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Right, I understand what you're saying.

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some individuals here in the community.

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So overall, the goal is to resolve and bring solutions for homelessness.

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It doesn't matter how many committees I need to be part of on this council.

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I can be a member of the full council, a member of the ad hoc committee,

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and that's kind of where the line ends here.

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But in the community, whatever additional opportunities there are,

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that's where I'm going to be.

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So what exactly, I mean what, I mean the council hasn't, and this is one of the reasons I disagreed with having the ad hoc committee with the transparency side.

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I know the council hasn't been apprised of anything. So what exactly is the ad hoc committee doing?

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What have you guys accomplished? Can you let the rest of the council know?

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Or is that even appropriate here? Or is I'm going out beyond the scope?

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I would love to answer a lot of questions.

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The agenda item before council is for council to establish.

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So you're saying that's going beyond the scope?

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No.

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No, I'm talking.

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I do think some are relevant questions to the item at hand, right?

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The item at hand is that council established the ad hoc committee for the new year.

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Okay, so that's okay then.

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I'm sorry.

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Go ahead.

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Yeah, I think that's relevant.

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I mean, we're just wanting to make sure.

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If you feel that you have questions, I'll be more than happy to answer them.

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So in regards to the whole purpose of the ad hoc committee was to be able to move forward some policies specifically the strategic plan.

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In the beginning the city did not qualify even to get the grant.

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However, because the task force did exist and me being the liaison was able to bring that information make that connection so that we can get free technical assistance in order to do a strategic plan.

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The original strategic plan technical service provider had advised us that we would be completed with that project by December.

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However, they needed to push that back. The original meetings were supposed to start earlier.

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And because they pushed that back, that's why we're even having this discussion.

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We just wrapped up three of the four public sessions that need to happen.

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So the first session was with service providers for homelessness,

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bringing everyone to the table to talk about goals, not just talk about complaints and what we don't want to see.

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We're really focused on what are the solutions that would fit the Tracy community.

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We had a weekday opportunity, a week-end opportunity for people from the community to come.

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Again, provide their input for what they think is best for this community.

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We've had several meetings with different nonprofit agencies that are not local here,

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but some that are out of town who have also been able to demonstrate that they can have

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shelters that are not, you know, attracting new homeless from out of town, but still be

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able to be selective in who they allow in those shelters.

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So basically what we've been doing is bringing different proposals we've gone to when we

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go to Lilligo Cities, we've gone to different workshops on how we can resolve those issues

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and what best practices are, but more than anything, we've been working alongside our

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city manager bringing most of the, any request that we've made that needs to be voted on,

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we've made publicly, such as the request to look into what it would take to do an emergency

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shelter after we, you know, found deceased person, homeless deceased person, as well

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as the murder of a homeless person in the park.

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So we brought those, those are the type of things that we've been doing is really,

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we've met with the community to hear some of their questions and really the whole purpose

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was to do a strategic plan. We've been working through the city manager and the assistant

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city manager with the technical assistance provider. So we are just to the point where

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they are going to be bringing back their recommendations and that's when the council as a whole have

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an opportunity to vote as to what our next direction is.

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Real quick one. So when you're meeting and say, I've only seen, you know, since,

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you know, that's the thing, council, we can't really go.

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The other council members because of the Brown Act and stuff.

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But one that I did see, like for the TECA meeting,

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is that in your capacity as ad hoc,

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is that your capacity as like task force?

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I was invited to the TECA meeting

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as a member of the council, as an ad hoc committee.

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They had an originally a question

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and they wanted to get clarification.

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When I'm there, I am the liaison

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on from the task force to this council as well as a member of the council as well as

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a member of the ad hoc committee. I made it very clear in fact the city manager was there.

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We provided clarification. You were also there as well as council member Vargas. So the

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answers were there. Is there a point that you're going to say?

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No, I'm just, I don't, I just don't. I'm sorry if I, I hope you don't take an

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offense with that. I just don't.

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I'm not taking offense, there's just a pattern of trying to discredit and create confusion

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that where there is none and so I'm really concerned, I just really want to know what

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the question is.

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I mean my question is I don't understand where the, it's, and this is not just coming

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from me.

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I mean it's, again, you have the rest of the council who's out of the loop and, you

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know, we're-

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Can you explain when you say the rest of the council is out of the loop?

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Well, I mean, well at least I can say I'm out of the loop, but you and Dan,

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excuse me, you and council member are older.

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Oh, they're only two people that are able, you know,

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to converse and go to meetings and, you know,

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talk to individuals because if you get three people in there,

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they're in the Brown Act violation.

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And that's one of the-

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I just gave an example of when three people were there.

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Right, but the only thing is I was the only one to talk

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and thank God no other council member to talk

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because if another council member would have talked,

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then we would have had a Brown Act violation.

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So that's where I'm getting at.

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So when you're having the open dialogue

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like you have in here is something completely different.

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I just don't understand where it just seems like everything's lumped together.

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And it's not just my confusion.

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It's confusion from those that have attended the Tee Comedians.

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There's confusion.

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So hopefully try to get some clarification so I can know where we're going.

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A prime example is like the internship. Thank you for clarifying that because somebody was

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saying it was from solicit, but it wasn't from solicit, it was from your role as a council member.

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So that's a clarification. So no, that's just clarifying information on that.

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I appreciate you for clarifying those are rumors and that's how rumors get started and that's been the consistent pattern here

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Which is why we created council protocols to try to avoid those type of things, but I'm similar

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It's my understanding. I know council member Vargas has had an intern. I believe you've had an intern. I have

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I've never had an intern. You didn't have an intern before I've never had one

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Well, okay, there was a letter in the paper from one of your interns last year, but that's okay

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The point is that if anyone is unclear, my goal as a council member is to help resolve

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and reduce the issue of homelessness in this community, and within the legal realm that

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I can, that's what I'm going to do.

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If anybody is unclear about what the task force is, I would suggest you attend the task

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force meeting.

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They're on the first Monday of every month.

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They alternate between daytime and evening.

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Go on Facebook, look at the Tracy Community Homeless Task Force for the schedule,

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or go on to the website.

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Or you can contact me personally if anybody needs further clarification.

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And I'll be more than happy to meet with any member here if you need additional clarification as well.

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But that's the thing. I mean, we've got to be careful because of two of you are on a task force.

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I mean, do you see what I'm saying?

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For clarification?

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No, I'm talking about meeting with you on a...

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I can give you clarification if you need that.

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If you have an ad hoc committee with two of you already talk about the issue a third of us can't join in because it's a brown act violation

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That's what I'm going to suggest our city managers will verse on the issue. You can sit with the city manager

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She's very clear on the difference between the task force as well as the ad hoc committee

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So if anyone is that okay with you city manager?

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I was going to make a suggestion to just kind of bring this back full circle

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is that one, I think, Council Member Rodizia accurately summarized the events so far with

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the ad hoc subcommittee. I would be more than happy through staff updates to kind of check

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in with the council after any type of meeting that we have, just so that we can keep this

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issue in front of us. Council can stay apprised. There's any deviation or change. Of course,

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the ad hoc committee can, under council items, do an update to both the community

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and to the council. But I'd be happy to just do various check-ins to just get

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ahead of that if that would work for you, Mayor.

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Yeah, I mean I think the council I mean the longest not a series meeting or something like you know the brown

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I mean, I'm just very cautious when it comes to the brown act of violations

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If we can get information be it a council item or something so we can know the rest of the council can know exactly

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What's going on instead of hearing it from you know other folks?

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So we don't have to discuss here like this councilmember Vargas. Thank you mayor

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I first want to commend our two council members that are working diligently to solve some

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issues that we're having in our community, homelessness, it's not just in Tracy but it's

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the nation-wide concern and it needs a lot of hard work to figure out how and how we're

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going to solve this.

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However, as I witnessed the interaction here, I think it will be prudent to get updates.

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I think if it's not an issue, in order to be transparent and the public can also get

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to participate, I think it will be appropriate to have not just an update from the hot

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committee but an update from the task force. And I can sympathize with the mayor's concerns

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about how those two interact and if this one is being, could be made political to help

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the other. So we want to make sure that this is, you know, address all five of us here,

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There are articles out to those folks that are having difficult times and living in the

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streets and there's many different issues why somebody finds themselves without a home.

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With that being said, I think there's an opportunity for all of us to collaborate, to work together

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and the spirit of solving this problem.

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And I think the lack of information is making some of us very uncomfortable and it's not

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prudent for any of us to show up to a meeting. And even though we remain quiet at times, it's

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human nature to want to participate and share our thoughts. And we cannot do that in any

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of those two forums. So I appreciate our city manager on those one-on-one. I think it's

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great to have updates, but it is leaving the rest of the public out. So I think in

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in the spirit of transparency.

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I think maybe once a quarter it will be appropriate

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to have an update not jointly

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because there are two different branches

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but I would like to see that if it's possible.

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I know that you guys are super busy

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but a quick little update

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and maybe it's on the agenda as a consent item

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it doesn't have to be a full bond presentation

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but something that the public can easily access

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and we are all informed and we're not afraid of being left in the dark.

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That will be my suggestion and a spirit of bringing us all together and working towards a solution.

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That's all.

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Sure.

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So I just want to make sure that we're staying on topic and we're addressing the actual,

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what's on the agenda.

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So when I first proposed the strategic plan and we received the grant,

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we were told that it was going to be done by December.

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So that's what we had anticipated and that's why the length was to December.

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So after working with the technical assistance team from the state, it was determined that they needed several extra months.

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And I believe they told us March.

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So are we still on track that they're going to be able to have that done by March?

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Yes. As far as I know, that is the deadline.

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Okay. So even though – so then may I ask why we're asking to extend it for six months instead of three months?

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Because there are two components to what the ad hoc subcommittee was to work on.

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One was the strategic plan.

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and the second was a feasibility of a temporary shelter.

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Okay, like I said, I hope that we can have

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something coming back an entire product

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that we can debate and vote on prior to six months

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because I want to get this done as soon as possible.

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I haven't had any confusion with the distinction

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between a community organization

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who's doing work directly with homeless individuals

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and the subcommittee which is working

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on developing policy for us to bring back.

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And we had a really good public workshop that was done.

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We identified five goals.

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We worked for six hours on how we were going to do that.

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So perhaps we can include that in any future presentation because I thought that was a really

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effective meeting that we had, and we figured out a big hunk of what the next steps were

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for our strategic plan.

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That being said, we did have a strategic plan meeting recently, and I anticipate

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that Councilmember Ransom will probably be speaking about it during the Council

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reports. Unfortunately, I was not there because I was sick. So that being said, I think we're

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having our steps are moving forward effectively and efficiently. We just did that a few bumps

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because of the timing. That was just a calendaring problem with the tactical strategic team or

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the tactical assistance team. So with that being said, I'd like to make a motion to

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move this because I'd like to actually say something before.

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Sure. Okay. Sorry. I just wanted to, I just wanted to say.

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We can go ahead and do a motion.

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Go ahead and do the motion, then we'll do a second.

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We can go ahead and do that.

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I'll second the motion to approve the item.

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I haven't motion yet.

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What's that?

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You're dead.

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Just to clarify, there was a request on the floor

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from Councilmember Vargas about a quarterly update.

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What I understood was a request to have a quarterly update

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on the work of the ad hoc committee.

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Was that seconded by anybody?

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I don't think that motion has been made.

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OK.

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So kind of premature.

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So, do you pull your motion, Dan?

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I pull one motion.

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I want to make sure that we have a pro-temp opportunity.

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Thank you.

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I just have a further clarification of what Carence Memorial asked, which was my one simple

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question for why we extended this to June.

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So what was just clarified was that it should be done around March, and then it's a two-part

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thing.

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That's why it's asked to June.

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So my simple question is, when will we have a strategic plan report to us?

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Will that be expected in two parts in March and June, or will that be one after

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June sometime. We'd get one in March and that would cover the strategic plan and

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then anything either at the same time or subsequent to that would involve

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whatever the work is directed by the subcommittee with respect to a

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feasibility of a temporary shelter that's also in play as well and we're

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still working and researching that. So then in March then we'll have the

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opportunity to talk whatever that's going to go beyond that. Absolutely because that would probably come out of that conversation organically anyway.

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Okay. So that's my question. I'll leave my comment. Well, I will add this one comment, though.

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As far as the differential, I'm not going to even really discuss the difference to an ad hoc in the task force

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because it's been made clear. But just for anyone who's really interested in homelessness

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and the challenges that there are not only in our city but abroad, as was already stated,

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I just want to reiterate that the Tracy Community Homelessness Task Force is open invitation

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to every single person that's concerned about that within our community and beyond.

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So you can go to that.

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I've attended them as well.

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And so it's not a conflict.

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The Brown Act to be able to be involved in a community organization

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that's trying to do something good for our community.

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Thank you.

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I move that we approve item 1J.

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I'll second.

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Okay. I had one more quick.

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Before we go to vote, I have one more quick.

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It's, I still have a, I mean, one of the reasons I disagree with this ad hoc community at the

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very beginning and I'm going to be the, an old dissent on this is that of transparency

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issue and you've seen some of the confusion that we've had here and this isn't just

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coming from me but some members of the community and, you know, a prime example is talking

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about temporary homeless shelters and, you know, what that means and, you know, what

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to the public think about that. And I know Councilmember Ranson talked about some city

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owned property that we've had in here in the city and does that, or we're using that as

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a place positive at home and shelter, there's a lot of questions. And another complaint

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that I heard was that, you know, that all voices aren't being heard, meaning that

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you go to some of these meetings and unless you're in support of temporary homeless shelters

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that you're kind of put out to the side. And again, these are some of the complaints that

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I hear. And I think one of the ways that we can eliminate that kind of talk

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amongst

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people is have an open forum. I mean, to me, this is, you're right, this is a huge,

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huge issue not just for the state or the city of Tracy but this whole entire

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valley not to the state and it will kind of like at least I equate it to is like

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when we discuss cannabis issues it's like to have an ad hoc issue or ad hoc

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committing dealing with cannabis I don't think anybody here would be too

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thrilled with that and so based on the transparency side of it I mean I

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think there is a huge lack of transparency in getting with the

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public involved in the open council setting. So that's my reason for dissenting.

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So as well, I'm sorry, I have a point afterwards.

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Okay.

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What I would like to point out is that this is not the only ad hoc committee we

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had in this city. Um,

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and what you're saying is that people are bringing you things and this is what

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you're hearing. Those are rumors. You're bringing rumors to the dais.

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So, um, while I appreciate that we brought, we brought, excuse me,

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what we did is we had an open invitation to the community through the city for

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four meetings where people can actually come and participate so we've had three

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of those meetings so far so when you're saying that people are saying that it's

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one-sided the task force does not make decisions on behalf of the city only

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the council can do that and we've opened those meetings up for the

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community to provide input three out of four have already happened so I just

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really wanted to bring that to your attention that when people are saying

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that they don't get a chance to participate, that's specifically and exactly why we added

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three additional meetings as opposed to just having one meeting.

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We added a weekend meeting, a Saturday meeting, and those are the meetings that will influence

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this City Council.

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And so I just would like to bring that to your attention.

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This is politics.

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People are going to talk.

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People are going to try to shade things one way or another.

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I can appreciate that.

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But the decisions that we make are going to be based on those open meetings that

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that were noticed to the public.

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So I'm done and thank you.

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No, I thank you.

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Council member.

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Mayor, I'm jumping in here.

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So we had a staff report

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and we've had council discussion.

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I do not believe this has been opened up to the public.

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Yeah, we did at the very beginning.

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Did you?

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So my point, I just want to bring,

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I want to jump on council member Vargas's point

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and just I'm happy with us doing some type of update.

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If four public forums weren't sufficient, then I'm fine doing something different.

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The last time I spoke, I suggested that we discuss the initial workshop we had,

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in which we talked about our actual priorities that these service providers themselves developed for six hours.

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It was really in depth.

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So if Council Member Vargas wants to make a motion, I'd be happy to second it to make sure that we do have an update

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And that would include some of those details from that workshop. I think that would be appropriate given that was done in a public forum

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Am I on but what I would that be one of clarification?

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It was requested that it be done quarterly council mayor Errol is still have the floor unless you get it up

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I just wanted to make sure would that be appropriate?

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Mr. Mears. Yeah, that's an appropriate motion to be made after there is a

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Currently a motion on the floor.

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No, he pulled it, so there's no motion on the floor.

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Council member one second where everybody can't speak at once.

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They had a motion. They were not clarifying that.

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Okay, so you made the motion. Who seconded Council Member Pro Tem?

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I did.

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Okay, so Council Member Areola has questions for our city attorney. Let's go there.

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So the answer to Council Member Areola's question is that is an appropriate motion that can be made after the current motion on the floor is addressed.

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00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:31,180
Thank you. Okay. Can I still have my point of clarification?

460
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:37,080
Okay, so the request as far as I just recall was that we can have a quarterly update.

461
00:30:37,340 --> 00:30:42,140
So the next quarter will be March. March is when the strategic plan will be coming back to us.

462
00:30:42,180 --> 00:30:47,120
That will be a full update at that particular time unless you're going to alter the original request.

463
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:50,380
So if it's coming back in three months, that's redundant.

464
00:30:50,820 --> 00:30:54,080
So I just want to make sure that we're clear on what we're asking for.

465
00:30:54,080 --> 00:31:00,800
So, so what I'm asking since I'm the one asking I'll clarify that mayor pro tem and you're

466
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,760
right if that is coming on the first quarter which is a march as great but we can have

467
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:12,660
the update from the other side as well which is the community task force so we can alternate

468
00:31:12,660 --> 00:31:19,300
so not to be redundant and repetitive and that way everything is addressed is open to

469
00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:21,600
with the public is well beyond transparent.

470
00:31:22,620 --> 00:31:24,500
I think there's nothing wrong here.

471
00:31:25,020 --> 00:31:26,020
We just need to...

472
00:31:26,020 --> 00:31:27,960
No, I just want to make sure that we're having a report

473
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,340
because the strategic plan that comes back

474
00:31:30,340 --> 00:31:35,100
is based on the task force and all the ad hoc committee,

475
00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:37,440
everything that comes back from the public hearings.

476
00:31:37,740 --> 00:31:38,680
I just want to make sure just,

477
00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:40,220
I mean, we're going to have two line items

478
00:31:40,220 --> 00:31:41,080
about the same thing,

479
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,360
just coming from two different directions.

480
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,400
I actually think there would be two different things.

481
00:31:44,580 --> 00:31:47,560
Councilmember Areola was asking for specific updates

482
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,960
with all of the priorities that were actually documented and outlined in the

483
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,120
first meeting which was November 19th and then we could also incorporate what's

484
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,900
been done to date. Then then the strategic plan would be all of that

485
00:31:58,900 --> 00:32:02,600
information assimilated and with some recommended deliverables for council's

486
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,780
consideration. So then that one we need to be sooner. It wouldn't be the first

487
00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:12,620
quarter as was said. We could do something in January or it

488
00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:16,440
shouldn't be a problem early February. The meeting there's another there's

489
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,360
There's another open meeting that's in our report that says January 14th that the entire

490
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,340
community can come to if they wish to.

491
00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:23,960
Yes.

492
00:32:24,460 --> 00:32:26,720
And I would not object to that.

493
00:32:27,260 --> 00:32:31,660
And what I do object to is a characterization that it's not been transparent and we've

494
00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:35,800
not given updates here because we've done updates here that have not been agendized.

495
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,060
I do them in council items.

496
00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:42,500
So I object to the characterization, which is very intentional, but I do not object

497
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:46,880
up to the actual agendizing updates for the future.

498
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,480
So with that being said,

499
00:32:48,580 --> 00:32:49,960
is it okay to call for the question?

500
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,180
It's, so how many motions do we have on here?

501
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:54,920
There's two.

502
00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:56,900
The first one was Council Member Ransom,

503
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,260
seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Young,

504
00:32:59,820 --> 00:33:02,220
regarding adopting a resolution to formally establish

505
00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:05,100
the Tracy-Holmes Strategic Plan Development Ad Hoc

506
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:06,580
Committee through June 30th, 2020.

507
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:09,700
The second motion was, I believe,

508
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:17,800
introduced by to bring updates to council on a quarterly basis including the

509
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,480
details from previous meetings and they start you know in the strategic point may

510
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,180
make a friendly amendment to Vargas to council member Vargas's request is that

511
00:33:27,180 --> 00:33:31,260
can we do that after the January 14th meeting so then we have a compiled

512
00:33:31,260 --> 00:33:35,040
information for all of our public comments so that we'll have a really

513
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,380
comprehensive update for everyone after the January 14th meeting great

514
00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:43,540
amendment to that yes that amendment to council member Vargas so the first

515
00:33:43,540 --> 00:33:47,100
amendment that's good the first amendment is to approve what's on the

516
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:51,980
agenda is a second amendment it or excuse me the second motion would be to to

517
00:33:51,980 --> 00:33:55,840
bring to council a quarterly update including details from the previous

518
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:02,540
meeting and that those updates to be brought after the January 14th okay

519
00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:09,120
and I just and real quick in regards to intentional and you know and this is

520
00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:14,400
Again, we have a right to know what the heck is going on in our community and as far as

521
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:19,960
to ask questions, this kind of gets back to a prior council meeting that we're not accusing

522
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,900
anybody of anything.

523
00:34:21,140 --> 00:34:26,420
We're not putting somebody's idea down, but there is a lot of questions that I'm not

524
00:34:26,420 --> 00:34:27,040
even aware of.

525
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,560
I'm the mayor and I don't even know what's going on here because nobody's informing

526
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:30,920
us.

527
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,260
If there is talk about a temporary homeless shelter, there is talk about using city

528
00:34:36,260 --> 00:34:40,540
own property for the temporary homeless shelters, you know, and I think the public has the right

529
00:34:40,540 --> 00:34:44,680
to know, and that is where I'm going from. This is no disrespect to ad hoc committee,

530
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:50,100
no disrespect to individual council members. But again, it points to the public has the

531
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:55,420
right to know where the heck this city is going, and we're asked questions as equals

532
00:34:55,420 --> 00:35:00,760
up here, and we can't provide answers because one side is doing the other, and one right

533
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,780
hand doesn't know what the left hand's side is doing. I have an issue with that,

534
00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:05,980
and that's the transparency side I'm talking about.

535
00:35:06,860 --> 00:35:11,420
So get a roll call on motion number one

536
00:35:11,420 --> 00:35:13,520
by Council Member Ransom or Pro Tem.

537
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,740
Council Member Ransom?

538
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:15,240
Yes.

539
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,100
Mayor Pro Tem Young?

540
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:16,420
Yes.

541
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,340
Council Member Eriola?

542
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:17,700
Yes.

543
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Council Member Vargas?

544
00:35:18,860 --> 00:35:19,080
Yes.

545
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,600
Mayor Rickman?

546
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,040
No.

547
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,920
Get a roll call for motion number two.

548
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,620
Council Member Vargas?

549
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:28,620
Yes.

550
00:35:28,940 --> 00:35:29,620
Council Member Eriola?

551
00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:29,980
Yes.

552
00:35:30,140 --> 00:35:30,760
Council Member Ransom?

553
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:31,020
Yes.

554
00:35:31,260 --> 00:35:31,940
Mayor Pro Tem Young?

555
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:32,240
Yes.

556
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:32,880
And Mayor Rickman?

557
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:33,300
Yes.

558
00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:39,000
Alright, we're going to move on to item number two, item from the audience.

559
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,900
Anybody from the audience wish to address Council on this item?

560
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,000
Please keep your hands up high so I can see.

561
00:35:44,580 --> 00:35:44,840
Three,

562
00:35:48,820 --> 00:35:50,100
three folks, you got five minutes.

563
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,720
That's it, just three folks.

564
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,440
We're limited to 15 minutes, so five minutes apiece.

565
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,120
So whoever would like to go.

566
00:35:56,220 --> 00:35:59,000
I know I'm looking at you, but you don't have to if you don't wish.

567
00:35:59,460 --> 00:36:04,140
I do actually, because I had a question about what we just finished talking about.

568
00:36:04,140 --> 00:36:13,200
If you did that means it was an agenda item so you can't but so well my questions because I asked for clarification about that when you guys

569
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:21,360
were having your debate and she said no I should not come then because you guys were only supposed to be talking about what it said which

570
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,560
was extending their time.

571
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,120
Okay.

572
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,840
And you guys went down a different chain.

573
00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:25,300
Okay.

574
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,220
Let's try this.

575
00:36:26,380 --> 00:36:29,040
We'll go ahead and we don't start your time yet.

576
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:29,780
Go ahead and talk.

577
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,520
And if you veer into what we've just discussed an agenda item.

578
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,640
I'm not going to veer into anything about voting as to whether or not that should be extended.

579
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,600
All right, so let's go ahead and if you don't mind, get your name and address.

580
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,080
Yep, Melissa Johnson 212 Alvarado Way.

581
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,180
Thank you, Mr. Johnson.

582
00:36:47,020 --> 00:36:51,440
So my first question was about the ad hoc committee and the task force.

583
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,780
Can we as a community member join either one of those or only the task force?

584
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,420
And unfortunately, we can't...

585
00:36:58,420 --> 00:37:00,360
That speaks to non-agendized matters.

586
00:37:00,380 --> 00:37:02,720
Right, but we can't comment on that, right?

587
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,640
Okay, so it's not an agenda item.

588
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,600
They can talk to staff.

589
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,740
But staff can answer your question afterwards.

590
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,940
Thank you, City Manager, I'm just about to get to it.

591
00:37:12,460 --> 00:37:15,500
Well, the question that you asked is not an agenda item,

592
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:18,120
so we can't comment on that or give you advice

593
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,600
or tell you, but what we'll do is have one of our staff

594
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,560
members relay that information to you.

595
00:37:22,860 --> 00:37:23,640
Okay. All right.

596
00:37:23,940 --> 00:37:25,260
I'm sorry, let me make sure I understand.

597
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:28,620
I can only ask questions about what was on the agenda.

598
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Was not on the agenda.

599
00:37:30,780 --> 00:37:32,300
Okay, but that wasn't on the agenda.

600
00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:34,780
Right. No, you're fine. All we're saying is that we can't...

601
00:37:34,780 --> 00:37:35,700
But why didn't I get an answer?

602
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:40,540
Because we can't, because it is not on the agenda, so we can't discuss it.

603
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,920
So we have to have notice to the public what we're going to discuss.

604
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,000
None of my questions are on the agenda.

605
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,340
Okay, so what will happen?

606
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,920
They're all about homelessness and all about confusion.

607
00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:51,060
They're all about clarity and transparency.

608
00:37:51,180 --> 00:37:53,300
One second. What will happen? You can ask the questions.

609
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,660
We can't respond, but we'll have our staff member come and answer those questions for you.

610
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,300
Okay.

611
00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:00,020
Alright, so with that being said,

612
00:38:00,260 --> 00:38:01,660
why don't we go ahead and start her time

613
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:03,400
so we don't shorten ya.

614
00:38:03,820 --> 00:38:05,460
Oh, that's okay, there's only six questions

615
00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:06,980
and one of them was already answered.

616
00:38:07,540 --> 00:38:08,480
So question number two,

617
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,440
when is the next public meeting

618
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,880
to provide input about homelessness?

619
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,900
Question number three,

620
00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:17,340
what happened to the emergency shelter?

621
00:38:17,860 --> 00:38:19,580
Is that happening? When is that happening?

622
00:38:19,860 --> 00:38:21,340
Is it not happening until June?

623
00:38:21,740 --> 00:38:23,720
So I can still expect to see the homeless

624
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:25,600
with tents in the park, El Pasquodero,

625
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,920
or no, next to the school, no.

626
00:38:28,860 --> 00:38:31,420
Question number four, when will the strategic plan

627
00:38:31,420 --> 00:38:32,740
actually be brought to the city council

628
00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:33,920
for you guys to vote on that?

629
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,900
Question number five, where can we find updates

630
00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:39,440
on what's happening with either of the groups

631
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,020
since I'm still kind of unclear

632
00:38:41,020 --> 00:38:42,320
as to what either of them really do.

633
00:38:44,650 --> 00:38:46,850
And question number six is someone going to do something

634
00:38:46,850 --> 00:38:48,990
about the homeless tents that are sitting next

635
00:38:48,990 --> 00:38:50,250
to North Elementary School.

636
00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:54,170
Because I don't really feel like waiting until

637
00:38:54,170 --> 00:38:57,910
June for the tents to disappear or the vagrancy to disappear?

638
00:38:59,330 --> 00:39:00,610
All right, thank you, Ms. Johnson.

639
00:39:00,910 --> 00:39:05,230
We'll have one of our staff members in contacting to answer those questions for you.

640
00:39:05,330 --> 00:39:05,490
Perfect.

641
00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:06,670
All right, thank you.

642
00:39:07,330 --> 00:39:17,070
Mayor, could staff also send a memo or email about the response given to the lady, Ms. Johnson?

643
00:39:17,830 --> 00:39:18,450
No, sir.

644
00:39:19,050 --> 00:39:19,630
See why not.

645
00:39:21,070 --> 00:39:22,350
Who would like to go next?

646
00:39:22,350 --> 00:39:23,310
Robert

647
00:39:29,260 --> 00:39:31,100
Tanner, 1371, Russia Street.

648
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:40,940
A couple of meetings back, this city council voted talking about the e-cigarettes, the vapors, and the cartridges.

649
00:39:41,740 --> 00:39:46,420
And the only thing this city council voted on was the non-sale of the cartridges.

650
00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:58,280
Several days later, there was a CDC report that said e-cigarettes and vapors were causing up to 2,000 people having health problems.

651
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:04,720
and some deaths beyond that and I would hope that the city council has the

652
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:11,280
backbone if you will to not have e-cigarettes and vapors and the

653
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:16,040
cartridges sold in the city limits of Tracy if the people want to ruin their

654
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:21,100
lives let them go outside the city to buy it we don't need to support that

655
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:27,760
kind of a thing thank you thank you mr. Tanner point of clarification on that

656
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,580
I'm a senior attorney.

657
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,700
Our goal was to ban e-cigarettes and flavor tobacco

658
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:39,040
and not being able to sell within 600 feet of schools.

659
00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:42,500
The direction was just to ban flavored tobacco

660
00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:46,540
and to restrict the sale of tobacco retailers

661
00:40:46,540 --> 00:40:50,220
from being within 600 feet of sensitive youth uses like schools.

662
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,020
Alice English, Tracy, California.

663
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,300
Sorry.

664
00:41:01,540 --> 00:41:09,320
I just want to mention on October 15th, we had a consent item for the Mayor's Fund that

665
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:09,900
was pulled.

666
00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:21,320
And I just want to clarify 26 minutes into that conversation of the consent item for the

667
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,080
Youth Grant.

668
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:28,040
There was a member from the audience that said she was a board member and that Councilwoman

669
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:38,040
Ransom was not receiving money as counsel, 29 minutes into that same item, Councilwoman

670
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:46,880
Young, quote, unquote, she said, I'm going on record since Councilwoman Ransom has not

671
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,200
– since she's been on counsel, has not applied for funding.

672
00:41:50,580 --> 00:41:52,040
That is an incorrect statement.

673
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,960
And then she went again and said, I'm going on record as part of the advisory committee.

674
00:41:58,380 --> 00:42:01,960
She has not receiving money from the Mayor's Fund.

675
00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:08,240
So I would like to enter this on record that Radisha Ransom sow a seed.

676
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,980
And the reason I say that because it has her name and it has her home address where all the checks go to,

677
00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:22,020
She applied for August 2017 to 2018 council members.

678
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,380
So I'm going to submit this as a record.

679
00:42:23,620 --> 00:42:23,900
It's here.

680
00:42:24,580 --> 00:42:30,960
It's the city of Tracy that she has been receiving money on 2016 when she ran for council.

681
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,460
She did apply again for 2016-2017 and also received funds.

682
00:42:36,460 --> 00:42:45,720
She received a check when being a City Council member back in March of 2017 for $5,000 for

683
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:53,040
one month, and there was another check in February for another $3,000 in 2017, and that's also

684
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:53,840
going to go on record.

685
00:42:54,620 --> 00:43:00,160
But since Councilwoman Young mentioned that she's been a member in a part of the advisory

686
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,140
committee, I think she said seven years, so that goes further than what my records

687
00:43:04,140 --> 00:43:04,520
show.

688
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:17,160
So in 2013-2014, Councilwoman Young at that time voted for funding for SOA seat and has been on the budget.

689
00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:23,340
So that's on record. She has never reviewed herself. She's been part of the member and advisory board member.

690
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:31,900
So that is also going on. And on 2014 to go on record, on the mayor's fund, they were only allowed up to $50,000.

691
00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:36,080
So at that time, there was extra money allocated.

692
00:43:36,460 --> 00:43:42,020
It could have gone to other ones, but so was seed received and extra additional money, which almost was $58,000.

693
00:43:42,940 --> 00:43:50,460
Not including the money for CBDG fund, which I think I'm going to pursue that one because that is double dipping.

694
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:56,220
She should have been qualified to receive another $6,000 CBDG fund.

695
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,700
And at that time, Councilwoman Young did not repeat herself.

696
00:43:59,700 --> 00:44:02,860
On record, she said she didn't have to, but she didn't need to.

697
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,460
So this just shows you the pattern that we have here with council.

698
00:44:06,980 --> 00:44:11,620
So that year, close to $65,000, and this is taxpayers' money.

699
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,180
And the reason that's why I'm disclosing this, it's our money.

700
00:44:14,780 --> 00:44:17,700
It comes out of taxpayers' money, it came out of the general fund.

701
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,260
So that happened back in 2014, but I do have all this on record.

702
00:44:23,260 --> 00:44:31,960
I do have all the documents to provide that she received $3,000, $4,000, $1,300 just through

703
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:37,640
when she was on 2016, 2017, 2017, 2018.

704
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,540
So a seed did apply for it.

705
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:45,680
So this is why I'm here because it was on record October 15th.

706
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,100
It was 29 minutes into it when Councilwoman Young said that she is going on record.

707
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:53,400
This is a pattern of what goes on and has been going on.

708
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:57,660
She never recused herself and voted in any of the budget, which is fine.

709
00:44:58,540 --> 00:44:59,800
But I'm just going on record.

710
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,160
So that's what happened, and it's ongoing. And there's another incident that happened this

711
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:10,140
year on the CBDG fund that I will bring that document. I thought I brought it up on another

712
00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:15,380
project that she did not recruit herself. And I think I came up to council on that,

713
00:45:15,580 --> 00:45:20,760
and I went on record. So just for the audience, I will come back on that one. So they'll have

714
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,560
that. But I'd like to give this to the clerk, even though it is to the city of Tracy.

715
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:29,880
And then I have a point of clarification, Jess, Ms. Hart's correction.

716
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,980
Once I can, she still has her time here.

717
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:38,480
So what I'm stating, in case it doesn't make sense, it's on the open agenda on October

718
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:45,580
15th, 26 minutes into and 29 minutes is when Councilwoman Young, and she did say that she's

719
00:45:45,580 --> 00:45:46,220
going on record.

720
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,280
Not only that, she did that at the ribbon cutting that she's been a member on that

721
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:56,660
and kind of made a joke about city council as a pro tem so I just want to

722
00:45:56,660 --> 00:46:00,480
mention that some of the things that are saying out there in public as well thank

723
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,200
you thank you miss English I just have one I know that council member ransom

724
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:11,020
I'm not going to speak to to her itself I will speak to myself first of all the

725
00:46:11,020 --> 00:46:19,400
very first thing that I need to clarify is if we want to go on record be an

726
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,240
to you, or at all, that's my title right there, you can see it.

727
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,920
It's not ASME or Pro Tem, but because it's just blatant disrespect.

728
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,860
And so I have said very clearly, I'm on the advisory committee, and if you don't know

729
00:46:32,860 --> 00:46:37,100
the difference between advisory committee and a board member, then I can share definitions

730
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:45,040
with you later as far as my voting, and it's already been clarified and cleared.

731
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:46,760
I don't have to recuse myself on the council.

732
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,180
And so and it's the same when it goes to

733
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:55,660
Suicide but counsel I just like to remind everyone that we're in the items from the audience portion of the agenda

734
00:46:55,660 --> 00:46:58,620
So please make your comments very and I'm correcting

735
00:46:58,620 --> 00:47:05,260
Yes, I am mayor pro tem and so it's as far as a matter of if we're going on record all the many times that I was referred to

736
00:47:05,260 --> 00:47:09,500
And we have that information. Thank you. Okay, so I will be brief

737
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:14,600
The law does allow that when people come and intentionally say things that are factually untrue

738
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,820
that we can provide clarification.

739
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,320
This has been going on for several years.

740
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,000
As an executive director of a nonprofit organization

741
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,220
over the years, we have received funding, the organization.

742
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,820
When she's saying that checks are made to me,

743
00:47:28,900 --> 00:47:31,040
there are no checks made to Rhodesia Ransom.

744
00:47:31,420 --> 00:47:33,720
They've already filed an FPPC complaint

745
00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:35,320
and have received the information

746
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,780
that it is legal for funds to go to the organization.

747
00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:42,640
I've done that before getting on this council.

748
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,580
Mayor Pro Tem Young is an advisory member,

749
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:47,820
is not a paid member, is not on the Board of Directors

750
00:47:47,820 --> 00:47:48,840
for the organization.

751
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,680
The year where she's talking about the organization

752
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,120
got more than anyone else, it is a competitive process.

753
00:47:55,540 --> 00:47:58,740
The organization outperformed other organizations

754
00:47:58,740 --> 00:48:01,920
and there was additional funding that can be clarified

755
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,120
with Vanessa Carrera and any other city staff

756
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,840
as to why the organization received additional funding.

757
00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:12,160
In 2017-2018 it was on record here

758
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,840
that our board of directors submitted an application and withdrew the application at my request

759
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:23,040
for 2017 and 2018, went on the council. And Ms. English is very aware of that because

760
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,920
she spent over 100 hours of staff time requesting public records for this non-profit organization.

761
00:48:29,460 --> 00:48:37,040
And that is on record from Mr. Watson. So, Mr. Rickman, for the publics to understand,

762
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,860
there are three of us running for county supervisor right now. Ms. English represents that

763
00:48:40,860 --> 00:48:46,340
And you're going to continue to see politics brought into this council until the election is over. Thank you.

764
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,720
Okay, you're way beyond that.

765
00:48:48,260 --> 00:48:49,260
I'm done, sir.

766
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:59,820
So I have pointed privilege. I would just ask that any personal identifying information that's been requested to be entered into the record be redacted for personal information including addresses.

767
00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:01,540
Thank you.

768
00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:09,360
And just, you know, council, we have a right under the Brown Act. However, it needs to be brief and factual.

769
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,660
That was a brief infection?

770
00:49:12,740 --> 00:49:20,480
Accusations and so on, you know, it's uncalled for and it's not germane to the jurisdiction.

771
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,640
And, sir, you came in, did you?

772
00:49:24,540 --> 00:49:27,440
Okay, so go ahead. I didn't see it.

773
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,560
Felix Manges, 23285.

774
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:29,900
I'm sorry, sir.

775
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:33,740
Felix Manges, 23285 Sorrellas Drive.

776
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,040
Earlier, I was with the fire department downtown.

777
00:49:38,540 --> 00:49:42,960
I need to know if the fire department is associated with the city of Tracy.

778
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:52,860
I've lived here for 63 years, and I'm kind of not liking it much more, much longer.

779
00:49:53,680 --> 00:50:00,680
Story cut short. I've had a talk with him, had a talk with her, and I had a talk with him at the fire department.

780
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:06,840
eventually there was a lady in there that that needs to be addressed and I

781
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,680
don't know who to address it to or who she's involved with got into a

782
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:17,120
belligerent conversation with my wife trying to get a permit signed and she

783
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:22,060
came home angry and she came home crying. Do you want me to go downtown and take

784
00:50:22,060 --> 00:50:26,200
care of it? Yes. So the paperwork that we had to file with the fire

785
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,600
department was not documented into the computer that lady left to take

786
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:37,440
another job in Reno. Okay, so then this lady was badgering my wife, made us write

787
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,480
another check, made us pay for another whole new permit and everything else, and

788
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:48,440
so by the time I went down there, another fire lady, Marshal, whatever, had to

789
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,280
intervene because it got pretty nasty. And I told her, it says, you know what, you

790
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,440
could talk to anybody you want to, like that, but you're not gonna talk to me

791
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,760
like that. It got very heated. Eventually, we got our check back because

792
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,180
as the other lady mediated, okay?

793
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,700
And then on top of that, I ended up driving home

794
00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:08,260
and I got a flat tire by the fire station on 11th Street.

795
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,020
Changed my tire, my car fell on my arm.

796
00:51:12,820 --> 00:51:14,560
I was stuck there for seven minutes.

797
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:17,540
Two tow truck drivers went by, nobody stopped.

798
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,640
I was underneath my car, my tire was on top of my foot,

799
00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:22,960
my cell phone was in my car.

800
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,380
Couldn't call nobody.

801
00:51:24,580 --> 00:51:26,440
Two tow truck drivers went by, I was waving,

802
00:51:27,820 --> 00:51:36,120
rush hour traffic at five o'clock nobody stopped nobody I was stuck there so I

803
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,640
started cutting my wrist off I just started going side-to-side cut my wrist

804
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:44,140
off and I just felt later down the road that I was going to need my wrist

805
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:50,180
counted three pulled it out ran down to the fire station knocked on the door

806
00:51:50,180 --> 00:51:54,120
fireman came out and I says you know I need some ice really bad now here's a

807
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,280
part that really angers me and I need this looked into because I think it's

808
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:03,820
some form of discrimination because he told me he came out there we don't have

809
00:52:03,820 --> 00:52:07,640
no ice I said what do you mean you don't have no ice you're a fire department

810
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:12,480
half paramedic you don't have no ice two three minutes later another fire

811
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,960
truck pulls in the guys went right by my arm he says oh man let me run inside

812
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:22,880
to get you some ice he came outside with some ice and the whole meeting

813
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:28,600
behind this whole thing if that lady would have been very professional I wouldn't have had to come

814
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:33,620
into town I would have never got my hands smashed this happened back July 9th I was in doctors care

815
00:52:33,620 --> 00:52:40,700
to this day to don't move they've already casted this like six times already now and the reason

816
00:52:40,700 --> 00:52:45,520
why they took it off now is to give it some circulation I have no use of this arm cracked

817
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:51,720
here cracked there cracked there cracked underneath here and this is pulverized now my medical

818
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:56,620
Bills are like really stacking up. I can't afford it. They don't want to put me on the

819
00:52:56,620 --> 00:53:00,400
table to try and fix it because I've already had two heart attacks already. Now they wanted

820
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:06,500
to put a plate in here, but they want to put me on the table. But they said no, we'll just

821
00:53:06,500 --> 00:53:13,120
let it heal. I've been sitting down in my house since July doing absolutely nothing.

822
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:19,780
I had to pay to somebody to come in and frame my concrete. I had to pay for somebody

823
00:53:19,780 --> 00:53:27,460
to come in and pour my concrete and to dig the trench, and that's unacceptable because

824
00:53:27,460 --> 00:53:31,180
of somebody's bad behavior that needs to be dealt with.

825
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,620
This is very inappropriate, and I don't want to get into this political BS.

826
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,280
I called him, never returned any of my calls.

827
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,520
You disrespected me as a Tracyite, not one call.

828
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,300
I came to the council here numerous times to get your phone number.

829
00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:49,240
Never returned not one of my calls.

830
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:56,960
So am I not important to you? Am I not important to you? Because this happened because of you, you didn't answer my phone. You're part of this.

831
00:53:57,720 --> 00:53:58,880
You're part of it too.

832
00:53:59,740 --> 00:54:05,680
Maybe because you didn't handle that situation with that female person that had that attitude.

833
00:54:06,180 --> 00:54:13,100
Now, if I could have not been a gentleman, I could have resolved that issue myself because nobody is going to talk to me like that.

834
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:19,340
And I should have never have come from out of town to take care of my wife's situation

835
00:54:19,340 --> 00:54:22,280
for something that had a bad attitude that was very unprofessional.

836
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,320
I can't do nothing.

837
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:25,680
I can't, I can't move it.

838
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:26,520
I can't do nothing.

839
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,360
I'm useless with my left arm.

840
00:54:28,940 --> 00:54:30,540
So I wanted to bring this to your guys' attention.

841
00:54:31,060 --> 00:54:33,820
So each one you say, you guys don't know the whole story.

842
00:54:34,220 --> 00:54:35,040
I feel, thank you.

843
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,180
We have our human resources.

844
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,920
I've, I've, I've talked to them already today.

845
00:54:39,260 --> 00:54:39,480
Okay.

846
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,340
She's right behind if you have any, so you can talk to her.

847
00:54:43,380 --> 00:54:44,520
I just want to let you know.

848
00:54:44,660 --> 00:54:47,360
I want to know why you didn't answer my return my call.

849
00:54:47,720 --> 00:54:48,680
Okay, all right.

850
00:54:48,820 --> 00:54:49,760
No, you tell me.

851
00:54:49,820 --> 00:54:51,420
I can't. This is not an agendized item.

852
00:54:51,580 --> 00:54:51,900
I'm sorry.

853
00:54:52,340 --> 00:54:56,220
It's if you want to wait for it after the meeting or we can talk.

854
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,180
But unfortunately by the law, I can't. I lost all faith in you.

855
00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:00,320
I have no respect for you.

856
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,120
All right. Thank you, Alex.

857
00:55:02,180 --> 00:55:04,100
Same with you, Randy. No respect.

858
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,880
All right. We're going to move on to item number three a city council adoption

859
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,740
of a resolution approving documents and actions relating to the refinancing of outstanding

860
00:55:13,740 --> 00:55:19,200
lease revenue bonds and related lease payment obligations of the city. And two, Tracy Operating

861
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,600
Partnership, Joint Powers Authority Board of Directors, approval of a resolution authorizing

862
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:29,460
the issuance and sale of lease revenue bonds through refinancing outstanding lease revenue

863
00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:34,600
bonds and approving related documents and official auctions. Staff report please.

864
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:41,160
Good evening, Mayor, City Council. Thank you for allowing us to bring this item to you.

865
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:50,200
We've had a very successful look at refinancing some existing bonds given the current market conditions.

866
00:55:50,580 --> 00:55:57,260
There are two resolutions on the agenda tonight, both items related to the refinancing of outstanding lease revenue bonds,

867
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,200
meaning these are bonds that have already gone out and we're looking to lower the interest rates.

868
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:09,360
One for the adoption by the city council and two by the adoption of the Tracy operating Tracy's

869
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:16,700
joint power authority and that is basically a state agent oversight requirement that is done by

870
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:24,240
the city council. The out same bonds were issued in 2007 and in 2008 a portion of the debt

871
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:31,040
services for 2008 bonds is paid with redevelopment tax increment bonds and we have received

872
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,620
approved approval from Department of Finance.

873
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:37,840
Under current market conditions, the refunding of the 2007 bonds is expected to generate

874
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:44,700
approximately $580,000 in net debt savings with an annual amount of $32,000.

875
00:56:45,420 --> 00:56:50,740
Under the current conditions for the 2008 bonds, it's expected to, over the life

876
00:56:50,740 --> 00:56:58,060
of the bonds, save $7.8 million or approximately $410 over for an annual amount.

877
00:56:58,060 --> 00:57:06,480
The date of this maturity is 2037 for the 2007 bonds and the date of maturity for the 2008

878
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,460
is 2003, I'm sorry 2038.

879
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:17,600
The general fund savings from the 2008 bonds is expected to be $315,000 with other tax

880
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,720
amenities such as redevelopment sharing $96,000.

881
00:57:22,220 --> 00:57:26,040
The proposed refunding bonds are payable from the city's general fund with some

882
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:31,800
support from the redevelopment agency. Any known facts related to the preliminary official

883
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:36,360
statements that were included in your packet as well as I would say almost 10 attachments

884
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:42,340
so quite a lengthy packet item tonight. To repay these bonds is this is the opportunity

885
00:57:42,340 --> 00:57:47,660
for you to make any statements on that. With that, that concludes our presentation.

886
00:57:49,580 --> 00:57:53,060
I thank you Karen. All right, at this time we're going to open up the public hearing.

887
00:57:53,060 --> 00:57:56,560
Anybody from the audience wish to address council on this item item 3a?

888
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,240
Anyone else anyone?

889
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:10,840
And no one we will close the public hearing and bring it back to council for discussion

890
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:17,460
If there is no discussion entertain a motion and move to adopt a resolution

891
00:58:17,460 --> 00:58:24,320
approving documents and actions relating to the refinancing of outstanding lease revenue bonds and related lease payment obligations of the city

892
00:58:26,020 --> 00:58:26,660
seconded

893
00:58:26,660 --> 00:58:33,040
Council member are you looking at real call, please may purchase me young. Yes, council of ariola. Yes, council of ransom

894
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:38,160
Yes, that's my vagus and may Rickman. Yes

895
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:46,290
So as the authority I'm going to adopt a resolution of the Tracy operating partnership joint powers authorities

896
00:58:46,290 --> 00:58:51,550
Authorizing the issuance and sell of lease revenue bonds to refinance outstanding lease revenue bonds

897
00:58:51,550 --> 00:58:58,390
ratifying and improving a debt management policy and improving related documents and official actions a second that motion

898
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:59,690
I had a real call please.

899
00:59:00,490 --> 00:59:01,450
Director Young.

900
00:59:01,870 --> 00:59:02,130
Yes.

901
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:03,010
Director Ansem.

902
00:59:03,350 --> 00:59:03,530
Yes.

903
00:59:03,830 --> 00:59:04,510
Director Arayola.

904
00:59:05,170 --> 00:59:05,790
Director Vargas.

905
00:59:06,830 --> 00:59:07,990
And Chair Rickman.

906
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:08,730
Yes.

907
00:59:09,450 --> 00:59:09,730
All right.

908
00:59:09,810 --> 00:59:14,090
Move on to item 3B, public hearing to introduce an ordinance admitting the I-205 court or

909
00:59:14,090 --> 00:59:20,530
a specific plan that appendix A, table A-2, permitted and conditionally permitted commercial

910
00:59:20,530 --> 00:59:24,250
and industrial uses to allow breweries, wineries and distilleries.

911
00:59:24,670 --> 00:59:25,610
Staff report please.

912
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:28,100
Yes.

913
00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:31,760
Thank you mayor and council members. I'm Scott Clair with Development Services Department

914
00:59:32,340 --> 00:59:35,160
the I-205 quarter specific plan area

915
00:59:35,860 --> 00:59:37,380
currently only permits

916
00:59:38,020 --> 00:59:42,740
breweries wineries and distilleries in the light industrial designated areas and also

917
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,880
Conditionally permits them in the service commercial areas. So this proposed ordinance

918
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:54,880
Would allow breweries wineries and distilleries to locate in all of the commercially designated areas within the I-205 specific plan

919
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:59,960
as long as those uses are including at least 30%

920
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:10,600
And the reason for that requirement is so that the use is compatible with a retail center.

921
01:00:10,780 --> 01:00:16,840
The project applicant is proposed to locate a craft brewery in the Northgate Village Shopping

922
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:22,100
Center. And if this ordinance is approved, that use would be allowed. So staff and planning

923
01:00:22,100 --> 01:00:26,120
commissioner are recommending that city council introduce and waive the first reading of

924
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,760
the ordinance. I'm happy to answer any questions you have. Thank you.

925
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,780
All right. Thank you, sir. We'll move on to

926
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:38,160
Opening the public hearing so at this time we're going to open up the public hearing for item 3b. No

927
01:00:43,730 --> 01:00:44,030
one

928
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:51,310
We will close the public hearing and bring it back for a discount the council for discussion

929
01:00:52,590 --> 01:00:58,670
Don't see any discussion. So with that being said, I'm going to request that our city clerk to read the title of the proposed ordinance

930
01:00:59,770 --> 01:01:04,610
An ordinance of the city of Tracy amending the I-205 corridor specific plan

931
01:01:04,610 --> 01:01:09,810
Appendix A, Table A-2, permitted and conditionally permitted commercial and

932
01:01:09,810 --> 01:01:14,290
industrial uses to allow breweries, wineries and distilleries application

933
01:01:14,290 --> 01:01:20,530
number SPA 19-0005. I move to waive reading of the text and

934
01:01:20,530 --> 01:01:25,650
introduce the proposed ordinance. I second. I roll call. Council Member Areola. Yes.

935
01:01:25,650 --> 01:01:25,770
Yes.

936
01:01:25,870 --> 01:01:26,530
Mayor Pro-Jim Young.

937
01:01:26,650 --> 01:01:26,850
Yes.

938
01:01:27,010 --> 01:01:27,570
Councilman Branson.

939
01:01:27,850 --> 01:01:28,010
Yes.

940
01:01:28,190 --> 01:01:28,870
Councilman Vargas.

941
01:01:29,870 --> 01:01:30,430
Yes.

942
01:01:30,430 --> 01:01:30,910
Mayor Rickman.

943
01:01:31,510 --> 01:01:31,790
Yes.

944
01:01:32,650 --> 01:01:33,410
All right.

945
01:01:34,010 --> 01:01:35,770
Looking forward to another brewery.

946
01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:37,310
Or winery.

947
01:01:37,930 --> 01:01:38,550
Or distillery.

948
01:01:40,510 --> 01:01:41,830
I like the breweries.

949
01:01:43,630 --> 01:01:44,690
I like wine.

950
01:01:45,290 --> 01:01:46,510
And I like distilleries.

951
01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:47,130
So.

952
01:01:48,510 --> 01:01:50,350
We move on to item 3C.

953
01:01:51,250 --> 01:01:54,910
Public hearing to introduce an ordinance admitting the central business district zone to permit

954
01:01:54,910 --> 01:02:01,470
high density to residential uses, including single family dwellings, two family dwellings,

955
01:02:01,790 --> 01:02:06,470
and multi-family dwellings, and approval of a development review permit to construct a

956
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:11,670
five-unit residential project consistent of two single family dwellings, and a triplex

957
01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:17,670
located at 21, 25, and 29 East 8th Street.

958
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:24,790
Good roll call. Oh, excuse me, your staff report. No pressure. I'm not trying to, Russia.

959
01:02:25,950 --> 01:02:30,450
Yes, thank you, Mayor and Council Members. This item involves a proposed amendment to

960
01:02:30,450 --> 01:02:36,550
the CBD zone to permit residential uses as long as they're not located on the ground

961
01:02:36,550 --> 01:02:44,170
floor of Central Avenue or 10th Street between Central and A Street and also not on the

962
01:02:44,170 --> 01:02:46,650
ground floor facing the plaza on 6th Street.

963
01:02:47,530 --> 01:02:52,110
So the current CBD zone requires a conditional use permit for multi-family housing in the

964
01:02:52,110 --> 01:02:57,610
CBD and also does not currently permit single-family dwellings and duplexes.

965
01:02:57,650 --> 01:03:01,370
However, the general plan states that residential development is strongly encouraged in the

966
01:03:01,370 --> 01:03:07,870
downtown as long as it meets the density of 15 to 50 units per gross acre.

967
01:03:08,130 --> 01:03:13,470
And so with this proposed amendment, it would be more encouraging of residential

968
01:03:13,470 --> 01:03:15,050
as long as it meets that criteria.

969
01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:19,470
The project applicant is proposing a five-unit project

970
01:03:19,470 --> 01:03:22,190
on East 8th Street that includes a triplex

971
01:03:22,190 --> 01:03:23,570
and two single-family homes.

972
01:03:24,430 --> 01:03:27,650
So the agenda item also includes a development review permit

973
01:03:27,650 --> 01:03:28,870
to approve that project.

974
01:03:29,070 --> 01:03:31,270
The project is consistent with the general plan

975
01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:33,670
as well as the proposed amendment to the CBD zone

976
01:03:33,670 --> 01:03:35,710
and also the city's design goals and standards.

977
01:03:36,370 --> 01:03:38,710
Staff and Planning Commission recommend that the city council

978
01:03:39,450 --> 01:03:41,270
introduce and waive the first reading of the ordinance

979
01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:46,490
to amend the CBD zone and also approve the development review permit for this five-unit

980
01:03:46,490 --> 01:03:50,670
residential project. That concludes the staff report. Happy to answer your questions you have.

981
01:03:51,370 --> 01:03:56,130
All right, thank you. All right, we're going to open up the public hearing. Anybody from the

982
01:03:56,130 --> 01:04:01,370
public, since it is an open public hearing, which I can talk to council on this issue.

983
01:04:07,650 --> 01:04:13,290
Seeing no one, we will close the public hearing and bring it back to council for discussion.

984
01:04:15,850 --> 01:04:22,490
any council? Just a quick question. Yes. Is the amendment that we have been handed with

985
01:04:23,170 --> 01:04:28,290
the red line, is that what we're voting on currently or is that separate? That's a different

986
01:04:28,290 --> 01:04:39,690
agenda item. 3C? 3C. Yes, I'm sorry. Yeah. My bad. Yes. That is what you're voting

987
01:04:39,690 --> 01:04:42,930
on right now. It's an ordinance. Including that amendment that's been provided to us?

988
01:04:42,930 --> 01:04:45,010
Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

989
01:04:45,030 --> 01:04:45,110
Thank you.

990
01:04:45,110 --> 01:04:46,970
Can somebody else have one?

991
01:04:47,930 --> 01:04:48,230
I did.

992
01:04:48,770 --> 01:04:49,310
All right.

993
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,640
That being said, I'll request our city clerk to read the title of proposed ordinance.

994
01:04:58,420 --> 01:05:03,240
An ordinance of the City of Tracy amending Article 18, Central Business District,

995
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:09,980
zone of Chapter 10.08 of the Tracy Municipal Code to permit high density residential uses,

996
01:05:10,220 --> 01:05:13,340
including single family dwellings, two family dwellings,

997
01:05:13,340 --> 01:05:19,360
and multi-family dwellings application number ZA 117-0003.

998
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:25,520
Motion to waive the reading of the text and introduce a proposed ordinance.

999
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:26,420
A second.

1000
01:05:26,860 --> 01:05:27,580
Can I roll call, please?

1001
01:05:28,940 --> 01:05:29,780
Councilman Vargas?

1002
01:05:30,180 --> 01:05:30,360
Yes.

1003
01:05:30,580 --> 01:05:31,220
Mayor Pro Tem Young?

1004
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:31,600
Yes.

1005
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:32,600
Councilman Areola?

1006
01:05:32,820 --> 01:05:32,960
Yes.

1007
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:34,000
Councilman Ransom?

1008
01:05:34,140 --> 01:05:34,280
Yes.

1009
01:05:34,540 --> 01:05:35,120
And Mayor Rickman?

1010
01:05:35,620 --> 01:05:35,740
Yes.

1011
01:05:35,900 --> 01:05:41,800
Motion to adopt the resolution approving the development review permit to construct

1012
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:47,080
the five units residential project consisting of two single-family dwellings and triplex

1013
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:57,160
triplex. Thank you. Triplex on the approximate 9,885 square foot site located at 21 25 and

1014
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:03,780
29 E A Street. Second. Second by Councilman Aureola. Can we roll call please?

1015
01:06:11,020 --> 01:06:11,780
Councilman

1016
01:06:11,780 --> 01:06:12,440
All right, thank you.

1017
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:17,160
Move on to item 3D, provide direction on fiscal year 2019

1018
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,120
slash 20 strategic priorities

1019
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,680
and approve council workshop report

1020
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:24,920
as October 2nd, 2018, special meeting minutes.

1021
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:27,720
Staff report, please.

1022
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,440
All right, thank you, mayor, members of the council.

1023
01:06:29,620 --> 01:06:30,700
Can I have the PowerPoint, please?

1024
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,220
Okay, as the council's aware,

1025
01:06:36,420 --> 01:06:39,760
we held a strategic planning process on October 2nd,

1026
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,880
which was facilitated by management partners.

1027
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:51,480
We went ahead and identified a variety of priorities with council, and I'll go through kind of exactly what we spoke about.

1028
01:06:51,800 --> 01:07:00,840
But on this discussion outline, not only would I like to go through the priorities, but also kind of give a little bit of an overview of where our time is spent to help guide council's discussion tonight.

1029
01:07:01,340 --> 01:07:06,560
Go over the priorities, give you a sense of a work plan, and then give you a recommendation in next steps.

1030
01:07:07,660 --> 01:07:13,060
This kind of outlines what the workshop overview is for members of the public that aren't aware of the process.

1031
01:07:13,540 --> 01:07:19,260
Of course, this lays and sets the table for council to identify priorities, but it's also an opportunity to talk about norms

1032
01:07:19,260 --> 01:07:25,360
and governance in terms of council roles and responsibilities for them to talk about some of the opportunities

1033
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:30,980
and challenges and Tracy, and then also to just set the stage for what their priorities are for the coming fiscal year.

1034
01:07:31,580 --> 01:07:33,260
And council did exactly that.

1035
01:07:33,260 --> 01:07:47,720
But before we get into the priorities, I just want to remind the council that day to day service delivery, as you know, 90% of staff's time is just doing the day to day operations, calls for service, maintaining and processing things like permits and applications.

1036
01:07:48,260 --> 01:07:53,900
And when we deal with council directives and priorities, that really leaves about 10% of our time.

1037
01:07:54,240 --> 01:08:00,980
And so when we look at priorities, we need to make sure that those priorities count because otherwise we're doing competing priorities.

1038
01:08:00,980 --> 01:08:04,280
And so I just want to set that context for Council for tonight's discussion.

1039
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,800
And so what happens is that shifts, right?

1040
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:14,040
If we have less on the priorities, we have more opportunity to focus on day to day, but

1041
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:18,680
we also don't want to overextend that so that we're not able to get to your 10 percent.

1042
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,840
And so, again, this is just to be mindful of that staff has limited bandwidth, and

1043
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,680
so we need to make sure that we're, in fact, prioritizing those goals and objectives.

1044
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:34,500
Council identified a number of priorities, the top tier priorities in which everyone had voted for.

1045
01:08:34,700 --> 01:08:40,520
Council, as you know, did a DOT exercise, and all of the Council identified that making sure that our financial

1046
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:45,880
house in order and that the public is aware of sources and uses and how things are funded was important.

1047
01:08:46,440 --> 01:08:51,180
Measure V, getting the amenities in the ground was also another majority.

1048
01:08:51,180 --> 01:08:55,620
We, excuse me, all of the council wanted that to happen and then adopt a code of conduct

1049
01:08:55,620 --> 01:09:00,160
which we know, if someone could take that off the screen, that'd be great.

1050
01:09:00,900 --> 01:09:04,440
Adopt a code of conduct which as you can see here, we have them posted and those have

1051
01:09:04,440 --> 01:09:05,080
been complete.

1052
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,640
We also have some organizational priorities that council identified.

1053
01:09:11,300 --> 01:09:16,380
Valley Link was a priority looking at infrastructure around the city, that's not Valley Link

1054
01:09:16,380 --> 01:09:21,220
infrastructure, but just infrastructure in general, addressing citywide traffic issues.

1055
01:09:21,460 --> 01:09:25,060
We've had a number of conversations with the public that this is a key priority.

1056
01:09:25,780 --> 01:09:30,020
And then economic development, very specific targeted economic development, was very important

1057
01:09:30,020 --> 01:09:31,480
in terms of jobs for the council.

1058
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:39,580
There are a couple of other items that did not make the list, but I did include them

1059
01:09:39,580 --> 01:09:41,640
on your priority list for a couple of reasons.

1060
01:09:41,820 --> 01:09:45,480
One, these are already underway, and so I didn't want to lose sight of those.

1061
01:09:45,480 --> 01:09:47,300
and they have little asterisks next to them.

1062
01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:51,600
A transit-oriented development, TOD, that's underway,

1063
01:09:51,780 --> 01:09:54,660
homeless strategy is underway, and also cannabis regulations.

1064
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,300
And as you know, we've taken care of the zoning piece

1065
01:09:57,300 --> 01:09:59,000
and the regulatory piece in next,

1066
01:09:59,300 --> 01:10:01,240
which will come before you, is the application.

1067
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,920
So again, I added those on your priorities,

1068
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,460
but this evening is for you to identify

1069
01:10:06,460 --> 01:10:09,260
if these still make sense to you,

1070
01:10:09,260 --> 01:10:11,280
if there's anything you wanna add, delete or modify.

1071
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,840
The other ones that are listed here,

1072
01:10:13,940 --> 01:10:14,860
and I won't go through them,

1073
01:10:14,860 --> 01:10:19,480
They didn't make the top tier, but of course, again, Council can shift these as they see fit.

1074
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:21,960
So I won't go through these individually.

1075
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,480
We'll let Council have an opportunity to have a discussion.

1076
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,320
I've organized these based on categories.

1077
01:10:27,620 --> 01:10:32,920
So we have quality of life categories, where we've got Measure V infrastructure projects

1078
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,440
and a Homelands Strategic Plan listed.

1079
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,440
We have economic development goals.

1080
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:38,900
We have Valley Link.

1081
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:43,680
We have cannabis regulations, TOD, and also targeting industries

1082
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,460
that meet our need or the desires of the community.

1083
01:10:46,780 --> 01:10:48,980
That's all under the umbrella of economic development.

1084
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:53,200
And then we have public safety, including traffic conditions.

1085
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,660
We also have homeless and strategic plan.

1086
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,640
This may be better suited to just go under quality of life,

1087
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,280
so it's not confusing, and we'll get back to that.

1088
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,860
And then we have governance, and the city has been doing a lot of work

1089
01:11:04,860 --> 01:11:07,880
with respect to good governance policies, city finances,

1090
01:11:08,420 --> 01:11:11,540
and creating that awareness of what our situation and constraints are

1091
01:11:11,540 --> 01:11:17,400
is listed here, as well as options for making sure that we have short and long-term sustainability.

1092
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,640
And that, of course, will come to you as a part of the budget development process this

1093
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:21,900
year.

1094
01:11:22,740 --> 01:11:29,800
So the recommendation is to give staff some feedback on these recommended priorities.

1095
01:11:30,380 --> 01:11:34,740
We would ask you to adopt the report that's attached, just the minutes.

1096
01:11:34,940 --> 01:11:39,020
This summarizes everything that transpired at the workshop, and then we'll continue

1097
01:11:39,020 --> 01:11:45,100
to update these as needed but we will also make sure that those are up and on boards

1098
01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:49,240
that you see throughout City Hall so people are aware of what those strategic priorities

1099
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,080
are as also getting them on the website too.

1100
01:11:52,860 --> 01:11:56,800
We would also like some direction on the work plan if there are other objectives that

1101
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,620
you would like to see under each of the goals, please let us know that.

1102
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:04,740
None of this is in stone, it's very fluid and then we will commit to reporting to

1103
01:12:04,740 --> 01:12:10,640
on a quarterly basis on our process and how well we're moving the needle on those items.

1104
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,280
And that concludes my report.

1105
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,600
All right. Thank you, Manager.

1106
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,880
At this time, I'm going to open up for the public comment.

1107
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,360
Anybody from Public Worship and Dress Council, Item 3D.

1108
01:12:25,470 --> 01:12:31,590
Seeing no one, we'll bring it back for discussion.

1109
01:12:32,470 --> 01:12:33,230
Council Member Areola.

1110
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:33,910
Thank you.

1111
01:12:34,010 --> 01:12:35,030
So I had two points.

1112
01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:40,170
The first one was related to economic development goal four.

1113
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:47,450
So during our actual workshop that we had, we had brought this up in the sense of targeted recruitment.

1114
01:12:47,870 --> 01:12:53,270
And so what I really kind of wanted to see, I don't really see the language of it included within the objectives of what we discussed during the workshop.

1115
01:12:53,690 --> 01:13:01,750
But kind of what I took from the workshop was that we really wanted to target jobs, bring jobs with Tracy.

1116
01:13:01,750 --> 01:13:09,250
So, I was hoping we could, maybe it looks like the language is close with Objective 2, but

1117
01:13:09,250 --> 01:13:15,590
I'd really want to, maybe in addition to that, add developing incentives to bring targeted

1118
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:16,550
jobs to Tracy.

1119
01:13:16,970 --> 01:13:19,350
Hey, Katherine, what are the councils where?

1120
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:20,430
What page are you on?

1121
01:13:20,530 --> 01:13:21,070
You said four.

1122
01:13:21,930 --> 01:13:26,530
Oh, page three, related to economic development, goal four.

1123
01:13:26,970 --> 01:13:29,290
Can we have a PowerPoint backup that might help the council?

1124
01:13:29,290 --> 01:13:30,190
One,

1125
01:13:34,750 --> 01:13:38,280
two, three. Okay, I see it.

1126
01:13:39,480 --> 01:13:42,960
So right now it talks about a marketing campaign to target specific businesses.

1127
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:51,740
I also want not only just targeting, but really kind of working on developing incentives to really bring those head of household jobs to Tracy.

1128
01:13:52,140 --> 01:13:57,780
It's a very slight difference in language, but I think it really makes a really big difference and what we as a council should be prioritizing.

1129
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:05,820
And then the second point that I wanted to make was that related to all of the other goals all of the other ones have

1130
01:14:05,820 --> 01:14:12,940
three or four goals. However when it comes to public safety we only have two. One of the goals that I had brought up during the workshop

1131
01:14:12,940 --> 01:14:21,660
was adding a goal of crime prevention and I think it's particularly notable that we did have the workshop unfortunately at that point

1132
01:14:21,660 --> 01:14:26,180
subsequent to that meeting we had another homicide in our town subsequent to that

1133
01:14:26,180 --> 01:14:31,440
I've recently held a town hall on crime prevention and I would like to ask the

1134
01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:36,900
council to reconsider our discussion that we had during the workshop and I

1135
01:14:36,900 --> 01:14:41,860
like to see added as goal number three to public safety prioritizing crime

1136
01:14:41,860 --> 01:14:44,360
prevention in our town thank you

1137
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:53,060
thank you mayor I agree with a first

1138
01:14:53,060 --> 01:14:59,880
request so I will second that I will be second that request on the

1139
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:10,160
Public safety, besides the education component for prevention, will also like to

1140
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:18,460
reiterate, maybe, and I see the public safety component, but I know there's

1141
01:15:18,460 --> 01:15:25,460
something that we've been talking for years now, the planning portion of it, and

1142
01:15:25,460 --> 01:15:33,300
the council update to be the city-wide emergency. I think that needs to come out to the priority.

1143
01:15:33,980 --> 01:15:39,020
It's something that I know for the last six years I've been here, been asking, and our

1144
01:15:39,020 --> 01:15:43,420
Mayor Pro Tem has been asking way before I came to council as well. So I would like

1145
01:15:43,420 --> 01:15:50,140
to see that coming to the top of the goals and hopefully get that achieved within

1146
01:15:50,140 --> 01:15:53,020
in that time period that whatever it is,

1147
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:57,580
we just want to have a milestone that we can just shoot for.

1148
01:15:57,820 --> 01:15:59,220
That's great, because that is in motion

1149
01:15:59,220 --> 01:16:01,880
and we will be issuing an RFP shortly.

1150
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:03,280
So perfect, thank you.

1151
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:04,680
Perfect, thank you.

1152
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,020
That's my ransom.

1153
01:16:07,460 --> 01:16:08,180
Thank you.

1154
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,180
So I appreciate Council Member Vargas

1155
01:16:12,180 --> 01:16:14,200
for bringing up the emergency preparedness plan

1156
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,640
because that was something that I wanted to see added

1157
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:17,480
as a priority.

1158
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,420
I understand that you are working on it.

1159
01:16:19,420 --> 01:16:22,520
I just feel like it would be nice if we have a visual.

1160
01:16:22,900 --> 01:16:25,060
I've been asking for that since I got on the council.

1161
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,100
So we're a couple of city managers in, in terms,

1162
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:32,660
and I actually asked that the fire chief earlier today

1163
01:16:32,660 --> 01:16:34,440
if they were playing a role in it as well.

1164
01:16:34,860 --> 01:16:36,400
So I think that's very important.

1165
01:16:37,660 --> 01:16:42,020
I definitely support Councilman Ariolas' request

1166
01:16:42,020 --> 01:16:45,080
to add the crime prevention as a strategy

1167
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:49,640
and I think that will help us to kind of drill down

1168
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,100
into some of the things we've been talking about

1169
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:55,560
in regards to lights and cameras and things like that,

1170
01:16:55,740 --> 01:16:58,940
that basically would help to demonstrate

1171
01:16:58,940 --> 01:17:00,540
that we're actually serious about that.

1172
01:17:00,820 --> 01:17:03,640
And then I also support the staff recommendation

1173
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:08,560
in regards to where we move the homeless

1174
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,200
new strategic plan.

1175
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:14,300
I attended Councilman Ariola's town hall

1176
01:17:14,300 --> 01:17:19,100
And although a lot of people, when we ask a question of like, do you feel safe,

1177
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,580
their responses were in regards to homeless people being in the park.

1178
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,320
But I do think it's more of a quality of life issue.

1179
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:33,620
And so I definitely would support moving that to the quality of life from,

1180
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:36,720
which is what you've done, but it's also still under public safety.

1181
01:17:36,820 --> 01:17:37,760
So it's kind of listed twice.

1182
01:17:37,940 --> 01:17:43,080
I just wanted to let you know that I do support that for obvious reasons.

1183
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:53,660
And I think you captured pretty much everything that we talked about, and we've already completed the governance policies.

1184
01:17:54,380 --> 01:17:59,540
So I think not only did you capture it, but we've already been able to move ahead.

1185
01:17:59,780 --> 01:18:05,240
So I appreciate you for bringing this, and I think it was pretty comprehensive.

1186
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:11,200
My only other point would be or question, I guess, and for the public, we only had so many dots.

1187
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:15,440
That's why there's a lot of things that look like it looks like we didn't care about youth or whatever

1188
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:19,080
But we only had so many dots to prioritize. So I want to be clear about that

1189
01:18:20,500 --> 01:18:23,920
But it's really hard is there a way to break out the

1190
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,440
It says, you know five for Valley Link infrastructure, whatever

1191
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:35,080
And so it's kind of hard for people to look at that to see what our real priority is and I didn't take a picture of the

1192
01:18:35,740 --> 01:18:40,120
Post-it picture. Is there a way for you to break that down further just for the record?

1193
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:44,700
I think the overall plan is fine, but for the record it's really hard to see

1194
01:18:45,340 --> 01:18:49,520
How much value link or infrastructure because those are different things I?

1195
01:18:51,380 --> 01:18:55,120
Can go through and check if the report did a further breakdown

1196
01:18:55,120 --> 01:19:00,440
But I may be able to get the notes offline and we can certainly do that if that's that council's pleasure

1197
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:06,100
Yes, I just thought it would be good to see like the difference, but thank you very much everything else

1198
01:19:06,100 --> 01:19:07,100
I have no problem with

1199
01:19:08,540 --> 01:19:10,180
I guess I'm the last one.

1200
01:19:11,020 --> 01:19:11,660
I have something.

1201
01:19:11,900 --> 01:19:12,700
Go ahead.

1202
01:19:12,900 --> 01:19:13,820
Make sure my little thing is.

1203
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:14,560
Go ahead.

1204
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:15,100
Go ahead, Tim.

1205
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:15,920
Sorry.

1206
01:19:16,220 --> 01:19:16,440
Thank you.

1207
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,960
So as it was already noted that we only had so many dots.

1208
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:29,380
I do have concern though for the things that as far as being able to capture the things

1209
01:19:29,380 --> 01:19:30,740
that are already in motion.

1210
01:19:30,940 --> 01:19:34,540
I know that it was already said things were in motion such as the emergency preparedness

1211
01:19:34,540 --> 01:19:34,940
plan.

1212
01:19:34,940 --> 01:19:42,600
I'm not sure how close we are to the end of that in motion for years, but maybe we'll

1213
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:43,800
have an update on that soon.

1214
01:19:44,140 --> 01:19:50,400
But as far as the other things that were already prioritized in the past, so are we just eliminating

1215
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:50,840
them?

1216
01:19:51,340 --> 01:19:56,280
Are they just show up in other areas such as youth, such as the labor agreements that

1217
01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:01,820
we talked about, such as the workforce, affordable housing that was set on priorities

1218
01:20:01,820 --> 01:20:07,360
from past councils, most of us up here, but so how do we handle that? Are we put

1219
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:11,840
in those to the back burner? Are they on some kind of in waiting list? So when

1220
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,760
council did their exercise and I get that you had limited number of dots, you

1221
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:20,760
are trying to identify what the highest priority was. Again, if you want to put

1222
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:25,280
all of these as a priority, then I will come back and recommend what the

1223
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:29,180
impact is and what maybe needs to fall off, because there's a significant

1224
01:20:29,180 --> 01:20:33,700
and impact if all of these items were kind of making up that 10% that you saw because

1225
01:20:33,700 --> 01:20:39,540
that's going to impact the 90% day to day. So the idea was try to find your highest

1226
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:46,520
and best items and then have us move forward. There may be ways where we can work through

1227
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:51,780
these through council items. But again, I want a caution council to be very strategic

1228
01:20:51,780 --> 01:20:57,380
and methodical about what you bring forward to staff because you may find that there's

1229
01:20:57,380 --> 01:20:59,660
like seven things that you want to be as priorities,

1230
01:20:59,900 --> 01:21:02,360
but in a council item, if you give me more work,

1231
01:21:02,620 --> 01:21:05,140
something's gonna fall off the list.

1232
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,280
And so we have very limited bandwidth

1233
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,140
and many of the staff that are working on this

1234
01:21:09,140 --> 01:21:10,360
are the same staff.

1235
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,660
So I just kinda wanna set the table with that.

1236
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:15,680
It's at council's discretion tonight

1237
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,040
if there is something that got a one or a zero

1238
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,080
and you wanna elevate that to a priority,

1239
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,000
then council needs to vote on that tonight.

1240
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,960
So it's just a matter of what it looks like.

1241
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:30,860
So, first of all, maybe we should have 11%, not 10%, but a side note from that.

1242
01:21:32,140 --> 01:21:38,540
As far as youth, maybe that's engulfed and wrapped in the measure V, seeing things in

1243
01:21:38,540 --> 01:21:38,840
the ground.

1244
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,540
I mean that's a huge category just to say youth.

1245
01:21:42,060 --> 01:21:46,420
So what has been that focus, like the workforce, affordable housing, I don't know if that

1246
01:21:46,420 --> 01:21:50,480
could be wrapped into, I don't know, something else, part of quality of life that we've

1247
01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:54,460
been talking about and we've had some things in place and some things are supposed

1248
01:21:54,460 --> 01:21:55,440
to come back to us.

1249
01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:59,540
Do those just get shifted and we don't look at those for the next year?

1250
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,160
So that's just what I'm asking as far as the things that's already in motion.

1251
01:22:03,340 --> 01:22:08,380
So is there a way to capture in a list of things that may even have a zero on here

1252
01:22:09,620 --> 01:22:15,460
that we're actually working on, like the emergency plan that we have preparedness plan?

1253
01:22:15,580 --> 01:22:21,380
Do you receive a list of council items that have been scheduled and that are being worked on?

1254
01:22:21,380 --> 01:22:27,120
So in addition to this list of priorities, there are about 25 other council items that

1255
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:28,500
staff is actively working on.

1256
01:22:28,820 --> 01:22:33,320
So some of the things that you had mentioned like, for instance, the emergency plan, that

1257
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:38,380
is definitely on the list and there will be an RFP issued and we will hire a consultant

1258
01:22:38,380 --> 01:22:41,720
to implement that plan or help the staff implement that plan.

1259
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,080
But those are on your council items list.

1260
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:47,060
So those are in addition to this discussion tonight.

1261
01:22:47,740 --> 01:22:52,560
These items here that you have, unless the council wants to elevate those to a very specific

1262
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:58,120
goal with specific objectives, you can find other opportunities through council items or

1263
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,400
through other projects like Measure V to elevate those.

1264
01:23:00,780 --> 01:23:04,740
So while I get optically, you don't want the community to think that these are not

1265
01:23:04,740 --> 01:23:05,240
important.

1266
01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:09,080
This was just a summary of an exercise, but I hear what you're saying.

1267
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:14,340
And it's not just for the community, it's for all of us to make sure that we're

1268
01:23:14,340 --> 01:23:14,940
on the same page.

1269
01:23:14,940 --> 01:23:18,200
but if we had that even list of counsel, other things,

1270
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:19,720
then it would be clear that all the things

1271
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:20,720
that we're trying to capture,

1272
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:22,880
but as far as like the Valley Link,

1273
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,480
why all five of us put our dots there

1274
01:23:25,480 --> 01:23:26,380
because it's important,

1275
01:23:26,900 --> 01:23:29,060
I'm not really sure how passive that goal is.

1276
01:23:29,740 --> 01:23:32,600
In being that, are we actively pursuing things

1277
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,180
for Valley Link, or are we just supporting?

1278
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,660
You know, as it says, work with regional well authority

1279
01:23:36,660 --> 01:23:39,300
and other partners for these initiatives.

1280
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,060
Are we just periodically writing letters,

1281
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:42,580
saying yes, we have approved,

1282
01:23:42,580 --> 01:23:48,380
Or is that something that the city staff is really actively putting time in?

1283
01:23:48,620 --> 01:23:49,120
Do you know what I mean?

1284
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:54,000
Because it said as the number one, it's the number one goal for economic development.

1285
01:23:54,380 --> 01:23:57,340
So again, this is what council had reflected as important.

1286
01:23:57,700 --> 01:23:59,260
Staff is in terms of support.

1287
01:23:59,460 --> 01:24:00,080
What does that mean?

1288
01:24:00,180 --> 01:24:03,540
That means that we attend the regional rail committee meetings.

1289
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:08,720
That means that when there are policy issues that we feel like we need to weigh in with Michael Tree

1290
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,420
and the rail authority, we do so accordingly.

1291
01:24:11,420 --> 01:24:17,500
if there are community events that we feel that Tracy needs to be represented at, we do

1292
01:24:17,500 --> 01:24:23,220
attend those and we do help to market those to the community. So it is an active involvement,

1293
01:24:23,500 --> 01:24:28,400
but would I say that we're strapped for time in doing that? Probably not, I think we can

1294
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:32,820
manage through, but I think what's important, and I heard this at the workshop, was that

1295
01:24:33,940 --> 01:24:39,560
infrastructure is valley link, it's our roads, it's our traffic issues, it's making sure

1296
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:45,660
if we can front money to get infrastructure done, roads widened sooner rather than later,

1297
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:50,520
that that was a really important piece to this dialogue, and Andrew might be able to

1298
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,140
clarify what that really looks like.

1299
01:24:54,780 --> 01:24:57,580
Yeah, so it, sorry, I'm going to struggle through this, but...

1300
01:24:57,580 --> 01:24:58,240
No problem, sorry.

1301
01:24:59,900 --> 01:25:06,360
So in the reports, God, we actually had some things where we're collapsing some

1302
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:10,740
of the fee areas of the city where we might be able to have some nexus and have some

1303
01:25:10,740 --> 01:25:15,240
money that we can move around a little more freely to advance some of those roadway projects.

1304
01:25:16,100 --> 01:25:23,180
We're also looking at moving some projects forward on Core Hollow for some of the Ponderosa

1305
01:25:23,180 --> 01:25:24,180
project and the like.

1306
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:30,840
So grants, you know, we go with Council to Washington, D.C. for doing EDA and other

1307
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,680
types of grants for some roadway improvements.

1308
01:25:32,940 --> 01:25:35,900
So I think it's in the list here, but those are all some of the things that we'll

1309
01:25:35,900 --> 01:25:37,560
do with infrastructure to try to advance.

1310
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,780
The other would be signal timing through town and those types of things,

1311
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:45,220
just efficiency of moving people through the city as well.

1312
01:25:45,480 --> 01:25:46,960
So those are some of the items on infrastructure.

1313
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:48,840
Okay, thank you.

1314
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,680
And lastly, have a question regarding the timeframe.

1315
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,860
So this is our strategic priorities for one year, but it's for fiscal year.

1316
01:25:57,020 --> 01:26:00,320
So fiscal year ends June, right, of 2020.

1317
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:04,640
So a new council will be seated in January.

1318
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,260
So now it's far at, well, December, technically.

1319
01:26:09,140 --> 01:26:11,740
So, and it's been done different ways.

1320
01:26:11,860 --> 01:26:13,860
When I first came on the council, we had meetings.

1321
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,180
We treat every time a new council was seated.

1322
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:20,780
And then we'll pick the priorities for the next coming couple of years.

1323
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,840
And with our protocols and everything we've set it for,

1324
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,920
is it annually that we'll be doing?

1325
01:26:26,540 --> 01:26:30,040
I don't think you specifically set the frequency.

1326
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:37,700
Okay, so my request here was to be that whatever these strategic priorities that we set them

1327
01:26:37,700 --> 01:26:44,780
to go through the physical year of 2020 so that it will go through the end of this council

1328
01:26:44,780 --> 01:26:49,620
so that there's no overlap and that the new council with that seated in January and

1329
01:26:49,620 --> 01:26:54,760
December in January or whatever it can meet and set the priorities as of 2021.

1330
01:26:55,340 --> 01:26:57,380
That's already happens every time.

1331
01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:58,380
Sure.

1332
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:03,860
And so I mean because these just covered this just covers it so I'm hoping that we can get some kind of

1333
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,600
Consistency set in motion with the councils as they see it

1334
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,560
So then they meet and they set the priorities going forward

1335
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:17,900
And so it's it's part of protocol that I'm adding that I'm requesting for the priorities as they're set

1336
01:27:20,330 --> 01:27:24,170
If there's council consensus on that we certainly can make that clear

1337
01:27:24,910 --> 01:27:28,270
That's a member area. Thank you. I want to highlight a point that

1338
01:27:28,270 --> 01:27:34,790
that Mayor Pro Tem made related to our prioritization of valley infrastructure and traffic.

1339
01:27:35,530 --> 01:27:40,970
And I think that in quality of life, goal two, I really want to highlight when it was

1340
01:27:40,970 --> 01:27:45,530
done during the workshop, the highlight wasn't just valley link, the highlight was infrastructure.

1341
01:27:46,170 --> 01:27:49,390
And I would remind everyone, this is in the context of this is the day after we had

1342
01:27:49,390 --> 01:27:51,510
a discussion about the Katera apartments.

1343
01:27:52,150 --> 01:27:55,270
So I think all of us, we were really clear that all of us wanted to focus and

1344
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:58,730
prioritize reducing traffic and enhancing infrastructure

1345
01:27:58,730 --> 01:27:59,390
for the city.

1346
01:27:59,710 --> 01:28:02,650
And I don't really quite see that strong language in goal two.

1347
01:28:02,990 --> 01:28:05,290
And I really want to make that very clear for, at least

1348
01:28:05,290 --> 01:28:09,510
that was what I took away from our workshop,

1349
01:28:10,050 --> 01:28:13,390
was that all five of us were very committed to enhancing

1350
01:28:13,390 --> 01:28:17,450
infrastructure, especially as our population is growing,

1351
01:28:17,870 --> 01:28:20,750
with the goal of really reducing that traffic.

1352
01:28:21,150 --> 01:28:23,050
So maybe we can kind of reword goal two

1353
01:28:23,050 --> 01:28:28,730
to really make that clear, but I think that's exactly what Mayor Pro Tem was trying to get

1354
01:28:28,730 --> 01:28:33,050
at is, you know, I do see the Valley Link has its own goal, but I think it's a really

1355
01:28:33,690 --> 01:28:37,390
important that we prioritize infrastructure and reducing traffic.

1356
01:28:37,770 --> 01:28:40,210
And that kind of just jogs something else.

1357
01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:44,370
So I do notice that we kind of have two homelessness points.

1358
01:28:47,210 --> 01:28:50,630
Mayor Pro Tem also brought up that we had talked about affordable housing.

1359
01:28:50,630 --> 01:28:56,370
A few months ago we had a special workshop on housing and diversifying housing in our

1360
01:28:56,370 --> 01:28:56,630
town.

1361
01:28:57,550 --> 01:29:05,310
I would maybe suggest that we consolidate the two homelessness goals and add a quality

1362
01:29:05,310 --> 01:29:10,670
of life so you're still at three under quality of life to reevaluate housing for our town.

1363
01:29:15,490 --> 01:29:19,670
So clarification on what where you referred to goal number two because under economic

1364
01:29:19,670 --> 01:29:23,170
development that's where the valley link is there another one I was looking at quality

1365
01:29:23,170 --> 01:29:23,550
of life.

1366
01:29:23,550 --> 01:29:25,490
or the quality of life one, okay.

1367
01:29:25,710 --> 01:29:27,310
That was related to infrastructure and traffic.

1368
01:29:27,850 --> 01:29:27,990
Right.

1369
01:29:29,450 --> 01:29:29,890
Okay.

1370
01:29:30,310 --> 01:29:30,810
Anyone else?

1371
01:29:32,190 --> 01:29:33,110
I just wanted to,

1372
01:29:33,150 --> 01:29:35,130
I never did get whether it was yes or no,

1373
01:29:35,390 --> 01:29:36,730
or if for lack of-

1374
01:29:36,730 --> 01:29:37,630
I'll second through your request,

1375
01:29:37,710 --> 01:29:39,450
because what I hear you asking is that,

1376
01:29:39,870 --> 01:29:41,730
we know what our practice is,

1377
01:29:41,730 --> 01:29:43,830
but you want to memorialize it as part of our protocols

1378
01:29:43,830 --> 01:29:45,950
so that we actually,

1379
01:29:46,030 --> 01:29:47,890
when a new council is seated that this happened,

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that we do this workshop to educate.

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01:29:50,790 --> 01:29:52,130
And I think that kind of speaks to

1382
01:29:52,730 --> 01:29:56,570
councilman's ariolas point when he you know first got on trying to get caught up

1383
01:29:56,570 --> 01:29:59,850
on things that were done in the past that he wasn't aware of so I would

1384
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,160
Absolutely. It's pretty much our practice, but I would support putting it in writing as

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01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:07,440
part of our protocols.

1386
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:13,340
So can we be more specific? So you want to do this every two years? You want these goals

1387
01:30:13,340 --> 01:30:17,860
to go through December 2020? I want to be clear on what the direction is.

1388
01:30:17,900 --> 01:30:21,040
It was a two-part request. And so the first part request was that these goals go through

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01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:26,600
December of 2020, so then we don't have a lapse of priorities when the new council

1390
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:30,980
comes on, because if this just goes through fiscal year June, then you have six months.

1391
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,840
I mean, it can be overlapped, but I think if we were more directive.

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01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:40,700
And then part two was that for the memorial to memorialize to make sure it's protocols.

1393
01:30:41,860 --> 01:30:42,500
I would support that.

1394
01:30:43,480 --> 01:30:46,960
Just to be clear, so that amendment to the council protocols would be a separate item.

1395
01:30:49,020 --> 01:30:51,200
It has to come back as a separate item.

1396
01:30:51,480 --> 01:30:52,000
I just want to make sure.

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01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:53,020
To actually add it to that.

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01:30:53,660 --> 01:30:54,280
Just to be clear.

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01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:55,120
So that would be an amendment.

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01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:55,920
Is that what you're saying?

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01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:00,180
Yes, it's an amendment that would have to be by resolution and it would come back as

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01:31:00,180 --> 01:31:00,780
a separate item.

1403
01:31:01,980 --> 01:31:02,440
Okay.

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01:31:02,740 --> 01:31:03,100
Thank you.

1405
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:09,620
So if I may, I'd like to kind of read back what I've heard from counsel so far and then

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01:31:09,620 --> 01:31:11,880
read if there's consensus for the counsel.

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01:31:12,180 --> 01:31:20,440
So under safety, I heard include emergency preparedness and crime prevention for economic

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01:31:20,440 --> 01:31:27,240
development to add incentives to bring to target jobs and that I'm not dressing

1409
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:31,340
that language up but that is what I heard from Councilmember Areola. Quality of

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01:31:31,340 --> 01:31:35,480
life, stronger language with respect to the infrastructure perhaps swapping out

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01:31:35,480 --> 01:31:41,780
the word facilitate to the word advance which is a little stronger and then

1412
01:31:41,780 --> 01:31:47,320
also on the homelessness piece to incorporate housing into that as well

1413
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:51,560
And I'm thinking affordable housing is that accurate that was my intention. Yes, okay

1414
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,220
And then I also heard a recommendation

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01:31:54,740 --> 01:32:02,440
That and of course I teed this up to move the homelessness item under safety to make sure that it's under one category of quality of life

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01:32:02,440 --> 01:32:07,560
And then I also heard Mayor Pertem say these goals should go through December 2020

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01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:12,580
And that we should also memorialize this in our protocols, which we'll come back to as a separate item

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01:32:13,420 --> 01:32:18,180
So, pleat reactions and is the council on board with those recommendations?

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01:32:19,060 --> 01:32:19,660
I am, yes.

1420
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:21,540
I know, I haven't spoken.

1421
01:32:21,700 --> 01:32:22,600
I just have a quick thing.

1422
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:27,600
And I'm fine, but with the homelessness, I mean, I know we had had this in the back

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01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:31,460
or in the past that being it can be in two different categories.

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01:32:32,180 --> 01:32:35,700
I mean, like it or not, you know, vagrancy and stuff.

1425
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:37,360
And I know one lady was talking about it here.

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01:32:37,460 --> 01:32:41,860
It is a public safety issue and we've had some public safety problems.

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01:32:41,860 --> 01:32:49,040
For example, drug use, you can talk about some of the other types of violations that

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01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:49,780
we have heard.

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01:32:49,940 --> 01:32:54,000
So taking that in public safety, it's a quality of life issue.

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01:32:54,180 --> 01:32:59,600
Sure, crime is a quality of life issue, but I think it bounces in both categories.

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01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:06,640
For example, quality of life, having people camping in our parks is a quality of life

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01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:07,040
issue.

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01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:12,420
But it's also a public safety issue when you look at some of the stuff that's left behind

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01:33:12,420 --> 01:33:18,680
Or you can look at the public safety issue when you're looking at some of the outbreaks that we've had in San Diego and San

1435
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:19,540
Francisco and

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01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:27,300
Some other cities so you see what I'm saying. Can you have those in two categories or?

1437
01:33:28,860 --> 01:33:33,580
So my I think my initial proposal was to and I agree we need to absolutely address all of those

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01:33:33,580 --> 01:33:37,560
to consolidate the two just to make it clear I'd be very comfortable putting

1439
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:44,080
that under public safety my initial my my original ask was that we add a goal

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01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:49,040
for housing so whether that's affordable housing and I would I would leave that

1441
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:54,580
to staff city manager would you I think that housing would fall under

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01:33:54,580 --> 01:33:58,080
quality of life so would you prefer that just to be its own separate goal

1443
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,940
to address affordable housing because we already have had at least one

1444
01:34:01,940 --> 01:34:06,600
workshop on that. So I'd assume that we've had some progress. So what are your

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01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:11,640
thoughts, City Avanager? No, we absolutely can do that, but I would just need to

1446
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:15,260
make sure that's the consensus of the Council to add that under quality of

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01:34:15,260 --> 01:34:20,140
life. I believe that that makes sense. I agree with that. I'm good with that. Where

1448
01:34:20,140 --> 01:34:24,620
I think I'm unclear is where the full Council is on the placement of

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01:34:24,620 --> 01:34:28,780
homelessness. I suggested public safety. I agree with that. I'm okay with

1450
01:34:28,780 --> 01:34:31,080
leaving it in both, as the Mayor mentioned,

1451
01:34:31,260 --> 01:34:33,620
it's quality of life issue and can be also

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01:34:33,620 --> 01:34:36,240
a homeless public safety issue.

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01:34:36,620 --> 01:34:38,620
So I'm okay with leaving it under both.

1454
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,220
I think it's two sides to the same coin.

1455
01:34:41,480 --> 01:34:44,000
So I think both categories would probably be,

1456
01:34:44,060 --> 01:34:45,360
I looked at both two to consolidate,

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01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,900
but I think that the focus should be

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01:34:47,900 --> 01:34:49,160
in both in two different areas

1459
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:50,480
because it's two different teams

1460
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:52,320
that's really looking at the issue

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01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:53,160
from different directions.

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01:34:55,860 --> 01:34:57,940
And my two cents, crime prevention,

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01:34:57,940 --> 01:35:02,720
And I think public safety is always my priority of government is to keep its residents safe.

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01:35:03,100 --> 01:35:09,340
So a crime prevention strategy and how they're going about doing that, meaning our chief

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01:35:09,340 --> 01:35:15,860
or police department would be relevant and I don't think it adds too much.

1466
01:35:16,100 --> 01:35:20,220
So am I seeing at least three or more nods that it's okay to live in two places?

1467
01:35:20,700 --> 01:35:20,880
Yes.

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01:35:21,500 --> 01:35:22,080
Okay, very good.

1469
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:29,840
Okay.

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01:35:30,660 --> 01:35:32,000
City Manager, what else do you need?

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01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:32,420
Are you good?

1472
01:35:33,060 --> 01:35:39,280
I believe I have the direction. I think in addition to what I had read earlier

1473
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,760
We're going to add affordable housing and its own goal under quality of life

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01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:48,260
And I heard that homelessness can live in both quality of life and safety. That was amenable to the council

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01:35:48,260 --> 01:35:54,180
Right anybody disagree and it's not a motion just direction. So the direction that

1476
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:59,740
You want are you clear? I have the direction and you will see this again

1477
01:35:59,740 --> 01:36:04,760
And we'll codify that we'll bring it as a consent item. Just a button that up. All right. Well, thank you

1478
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:11,040
That's one part of the item the second part is to approve the minutes where that is a motion from them. Oh, okay

1479
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:12,780
Yeah, you're right. Sorry about that

1480
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:18,880
All right, I can have motion. I'll make a motion to approve the minutes on item 3

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01:36:20,820 --> 01:36:27,200
B B D isn't David. Yes, sir. All right seconded second by councilmember ariel. I can roll call, please

1482
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:27,680
Yes.

1483
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:28,220
Councilmember Vargas?

1484
01:36:28,700 --> 01:36:29,020
Yes.

1485
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:29,980
Councilmember Areola?

1486
01:36:30,260 --> 01:36:30,460
Yes.

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01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:31,460
Councilmember Ransom?

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01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:31,780
Yes.

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01:36:32,700 --> 01:36:33,380
Mayor Pro-Chem Young?

1490
01:36:33,580 --> 01:36:33,800
Yes.

1491
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:34,480
And Mayor Rickman?

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01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:34,980
Yes.

1493
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:36,260
All right.

1494
01:36:36,340 --> 01:36:37,160
Moving right along here.

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01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:41,880
Item 3E, receive an update on City Water System Master Plan and Water Reliability.

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01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:43,440
If we get a staff report, please.

1497
01:36:44,260 --> 01:36:44,940
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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01:36:45,260 --> 01:36:45,820
Members of Council.

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01:36:47,260 --> 01:36:53,600
The item before you tonight is an update on our Master Plan and the Water Reliability.

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01:36:54,620 --> 01:36:59,620
We have all of the master plans are coming back to council in the spring and summer of next year.

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01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:08,080
We're bringing water to you because the water is one where there's a lot of outside forces that can impact that.

1502
01:37:08,660 --> 01:37:15,040
So we have Elizabeth Dreyer here who's going to do a presentation particularly focused on some things like water reliability,

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01:37:15,820 --> 01:37:20,260
some of the challenges, the Bay Delta plan, and then also what the city is doing about it.

1504
01:37:20,260 --> 01:37:22,120
So, Elizabeth, here's the remote.

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01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:23,540
If we could have the PowerPoint, please.

1506
01:37:30,690 --> 01:37:31,590
Thank you, Andrew.

1507
01:37:32,470 --> 01:37:34,990
My name is Elizabeth Dreher, I'm with West Yoast.

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01:37:35,550 --> 01:37:39,690
I'm the project manager for the City of Tracy

1509
01:37:39,690 --> 01:37:43,070
Citywide Water System Master Plan update.

1510
01:37:43,890 --> 01:37:47,650
We last prepared a water master plan for the city in 2012.

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01:37:48,550 --> 01:37:51,190
And the overall objectives of the master plan

1512
01:37:51,190 --> 01:37:55,110
are to evaluate the need for water system facilities,

1513
01:37:55,110 --> 01:38:01,050
improvements to meet existing and future needs and with our current master

1514
01:38:01,050 --> 01:38:06,170
plan update we are sort of at a milestone point in the project right now

1515
01:38:06,170 --> 01:38:12,490
where we have preliminary evaluation of future water supply needs and the future

1516
01:38:12,490 --> 01:38:19,430
water demand projections so that's what I'll be presenting tonight. First I want

1517
01:38:19,430 --> 01:38:23,270
to provide a little bit of kind of background on where the city has been

1518
01:38:23,270 --> 01:38:26,050
with its water use over the years.

1519
01:38:27,030 --> 01:38:32,990
This graphic shows approximately the last 40 years of water use in the city.

1520
01:38:33,510 --> 01:38:37,150
The bars on the bottom show the different water supplies.

1521
01:38:38,090 --> 01:38:44,330
The orange is your surface water supply from the Central Valley Project, which is delivered

1522
01:38:45,070 --> 01:38:49,670
through the Delta Mandoda Canal and treated at the city's John Jones Water Treatment

1523
01:38:49,670 --> 01:38:49,930
Plant.

1524
01:38:50,690 --> 01:38:56,610
The blue bars are showing the treated surface water supply that you receive from the Stannis-Loss River

1525
01:38:56,610 --> 01:38:59,870
from the South San Joaquin Irrigation District.

1526
01:39:00,790 --> 01:39:05,830
And the green bars show the local groundwater supplies that you've used over the years.

1527
01:39:07,250 --> 01:39:09,690
The supplies are shown in acre feet per year,

1528
01:39:09,950 --> 01:39:15,630
and it shows that obviously over time the water use has increased.

1529
01:39:15,630 --> 01:39:26,530
The maximum water use occurred in 2007 and the demand or the water use was 19,176 acre-feet per year.

1530
01:39:27,310 --> 01:39:32,110
And since then, the last 10 years or so have been pretty interesting here in California.

1531
01:39:35,030 --> 01:39:44,230
The drought occurred from about 2011 to 2017 that imposed a lot of mandatory statewide conservation

1532
01:39:44,230 --> 01:39:48,690
and increased water use efficiency throughout the state.

1533
01:39:49,450 --> 01:39:56,470
Also in 2008, there was the Great Recession, which severely impacted development projects,

1534
01:39:56,830 --> 01:40:03,330
and so that also resulted in demands reducing and leveling off.

1535
01:40:04,570 --> 01:40:08,710
So in the last 10 to 15 years, the water use has stayed about the same.

1536
01:40:10,010 --> 01:40:15,610
Again, with the drought, the worst of the drought was in 2015, 2016.

1537
01:40:16,450 --> 01:40:21,530
There has been a little bit of a rebound in demand since then, and the current demand

1538
01:40:21,530 --> 01:40:25,390
as of 2018 was about 16,000 acre feet per year.

1539
01:40:27,030 --> 01:40:32,370
What I've also shown in this graph, just for some perspective, is the historical population

1540
01:40:32,370 --> 01:40:35,990
of the city, and that's the red line that's on the top.

1541
01:40:35,990 --> 01:40:42,090
So while the water demand over the last 40 years has maybe a little bit more than doubled,

1542
01:40:42,730 --> 01:40:45,830
the population has more than quadrupled.

1543
01:40:46,510 --> 01:40:54,270
It's gone from about 20,000 people back in 1980 to just over 90,000 people right now.

1544
01:40:55,510 --> 01:41:00,330
And it's an interesting comparison because you can see although the population has quadrupled,

1545
01:41:00,930 --> 01:41:03,310
the water use has not.

1546
01:41:03,310 --> 01:41:10,730
And that's because, several reasons, there's new plumbing codes and plumbing requirements

1547
01:41:10,730 --> 01:41:14,470
for water-efficient fixtures throughout the state.

1548
01:41:15,430 --> 01:41:18,010
Irrigation systems are more efficient than they used to be.

1549
01:41:18,930 --> 01:41:24,170
People are more aware of the need to conserve water, and so people are more efficient

1550
01:41:24,170 --> 01:41:25,170
in their water use.

1551
01:41:25,870 --> 01:41:29,550
And there's also been a shift in land use within the city.

1552
01:41:29,630 --> 01:41:32,090
There's a lot more residential than there used to be.

1553
01:41:32,090 --> 01:41:40,350
And so that sort of skews the water demands down based on the comparison to population.

1554
01:41:41,010 --> 01:41:47,110
So one way of looking at it is the per capita water use number for the city.

1555
01:41:47,710 --> 01:41:58,050
And based on the overall number, about in the early 1980s, the overall per capita water use was about 300 gallons per capita per day.

1556
01:41:58,790 --> 01:42:04,150
And in recent years, it's been 160 gallons per capita per day.

1557
01:42:04,450 --> 01:42:10,750
So that means basically the average use per person is about half of what it used to be,

1558
01:42:10,830 --> 01:42:14,090
which is what ties the population and the numbers together.

1559
01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:21,080
Now I want to kind of look towards the future as we look with the Watermaster Plan update.

1560
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:26,520
Development is continuing within the city, consistent with the city's general plan.

1561
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:31,800
plan. You just have to drive around town and see the recent and the ongoing development,

1562
01:42:32,180 --> 01:42:37,960
Cordis Ranch, the International Park of Commerce, the Ellis Project, the Tracy Hills Project.

1563
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:43,700
And there's also a lot of additional planned future development per the general plan.

1564
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:49,580
Some of the major ones are the West Side Ranch specific plan, the West Side Industrial,

1565
01:42:49,580 --> 01:42:54,860
east side industrial, several urban reserve areas, and then also various

1566
01:42:54,860 --> 01:42:58,980
infill projects throughout the city. And so those two graphs are kind of

1567
01:42:58,980 --> 01:43:03,380
showing the areas that are proposed for future development and infill.

1568
01:43:06,220 --> 01:43:06,460
Another

1569
01:43:06,460 --> 01:43:09,960
thing that's happened in the last several years is several new water system

1570
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:15,260
facilities have been completed. The recycled water pump station and

1571
01:43:15,260 --> 01:43:20,680
pipeline work has been completed in Lammers Road and is continuing on

1572
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:25,460
with the additional phase. That will bring recycled water from the wastewater treatment

1573
01:43:25,460 --> 01:43:31,160
plant up onto the west side of the city to serve developments on that side.

1574
01:43:32,580 --> 01:43:36,900
Two potable water pump stations have been completed at the John Jones Water Treatment

1575
01:43:36,900 --> 01:43:43,080
Plant. One is to serve the Tracy Hills development and the other is to serve other city development

1576
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:48,860
in the main part of the city. There's a new potable water tank and pump station

1577
01:43:48,860 --> 01:43:55,060
at Cordis Ranch, that'll be serving that area, and also if you notice, if you're driving on 580

1578
01:43:55,580 --> 01:43:59,860
by Tracy Hills, there's a new potable water tank and pump station that's being constructed there

1579
01:43:59,860 --> 01:44:06,820
as well. So all of these facilities will help to deliver water supplies to the existing and

1580
01:44:06,820 --> 01:44:09,500
future users in the city.

1581
01:44:12,350 --> 01:44:15,330
The other thing we're looking at for the master plan is that

1582
01:44:15,330 --> 01:44:22,930
That recent legislation, primarily Senate Bill 606 and Assembly Bill 1668, they were

1583
01:44:22,930 --> 01:44:30,190
both passed in 2018, and it's created new statewide water efficiency standards, also

1584
01:44:30,190 --> 01:44:35,510
known as kind of the umbrella of is called making water conservation a California way

1585
01:44:35,510 --> 01:44:35,850
of life.

1586
01:44:36,630 --> 01:44:43,350
And this legislation is establishing new water efficiency standards throughout the state.

1587
01:44:43,350 --> 01:44:49,970
Those standards will apply to indoor residential use, outdoor residential use, commercial,

1588
01:44:50,210 --> 01:44:55,650
industrial, and institutional irrigation, and then also water loss standards.

1589
01:44:56,490 --> 01:44:59,890
The Water Master Plan will be taking these standards into account.

1590
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,440
As we develop the future water demands.

1591
01:45:05,100 --> 01:45:11,320
The other thing that's happened over the last few years is unprecedented drought conditions,

1592
01:45:12,060 --> 01:45:19,480
especially in 2015 and 2016, and that has, that really led to unprecedented supply cutbacks

1593
01:45:19,480 --> 01:45:24,040
and of course the mandated statewide water conservation that we all experienced.

1594
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:30,600
The other thing that came out in 2018 was an update to the Bay Delta water quality control

1595
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:36,900
plan, and that potentially impacts the availability of city surface water supplies, particularly

1596
01:45:36,900 --> 01:45:38,020
in dry years.

1597
01:45:39,140 --> 01:45:45,540
Specifically, it restricts the use of flows in the Stanislaus River until 40% of unimpaired

1598
01:45:45,540 --> 01:45:52,560
flows are rededicated for water quality and in-stream fisheries, which for SSJID,

1599
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:59,140
who is one of your suppliers of your surface water, potentially reduces the average annual

1600
01:45:59,140 --> 01:46:07,920
supply by about 10 to 25 percent and the dryer flows potentially by up to 64 percent.

1601
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:14,280
The SSJID supply was previous to this, was thought to be a very reliable supply and it

1602
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:20,080
has been very reliable even through the drought years, but this new Bay Delta plan could

1603
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:21,200
change that in the future.

1604
01:46:24,180 --> 01:46:29,680
So looking at all these different factors, we have come up with a projected kind

1605
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,140
of supply versus demand picture looking forward.

1606
01:46:32,860 --> 01:46:36,100
This graphic is showing supply versus demand

1607
01:46:36,100 --> 01:46:40,540
for three hydrologic conditions in the three bars.

1608
01:46:40,780 --> 01:46:43,060
So the first bar is showing normal year conditions.

1609
01:46:43,700 --> 01:46:46,520
The second bar is showing single dry year conditions.

1610
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:49,920
And then the third bar is showing multiple dry year

1611
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:50,560
conditions.

1612
01:46:51,700 --> 01:46:53,800
And then each of the colors in the bars

1613
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:55,240
are the different water supplies.

1614
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:59,160
So the blue is your existing water supplies, which again

1615
01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:05,680
is your surface water supply from the CVP as well as SSJID and groundwater.

1616
01:47:06,620 --> 01:47:11,880
And you can see as you go from a normal year to the single and multiple dry years that

1617
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:15,260
that blue bar gets shorter, especially in the single dry year.

1618
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:21,600
And that's because of the projected cutbacks in the surface water supply availability in

1619
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:25,820
a single dry year and to some extent the multiple dry year.

1620
01:47:25,820 --> 01:47:32,880
The single dry year is sort of the worst case because it's assumed to be like an extreme dry year in one year.

1621
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:41,500
The multiple dry years are below normal years over a series of years, but they're not as severe as that one single dry year.

1622
01:47:41,740 --> 01:47:44,820
So usually the critical case is the single dry year.

1623
01:47:46,300 --> 01:47:53,640
The other thing we're showing on here in terms of supply for the single dry year and multiple dry year is what we call ASR.

1624
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:57,040
And that is aquifer storage and recovery.

1625
01:47:57,580 --> 01:48:00,660
And that's a system where we use the groundwater basin

1626
01:48:00,660 --> 01:48:06,080
and we basically store away excess surface water

1627
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:08,200
that we have in wet years and we can store it

1628
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:09,240
in the groundwater basin.

1629
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,460
And then we were able to pull it out in a dry year.

1630
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:15,640
So that's why we're showing a supply coming out

1631
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:17,840
in a single dry year and a multiple dry year.

1632
01:48:18,260 --> 01:48:21,540
The city currently has one ASR well, well eight,

1633
01:48:21,540 --> 01:48:27,520
which was designed and intended for this purpose and additional ASR wells are

1634
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:33,320
planned to expand on that program. The green bar that's showing up in the

1635
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:39,540
multiple dry year case is the semi-tropic water supply and that is a

1636
01:48:39,540 --> 01:48:44,940
program that the city is involved with. Basically it's a storage

1637
01:48:44,940 --> 01:48:51,920
bank for groundwater down in Kern County and so it's a a deal where you work

1638
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:56,080
with the state to basically send water down there when you don't need it and

1639
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:59,980
then when you do need it you can you're you basically can withdraw it so it's a

1640
01:48:59,980 --> 01:49:03,440
it's a groundwater bank so you store it away when you have it and when you

1641
01:49:03,440 --> 01:49:07,600
need it you can pull it back and so we are showing that we would be able

1642
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:12,200
to pull water back in a multiple dry year over multiple years so that's

1643
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:18,100
what that bar is. But with those, with again just the blue bars and the orange and green

1644
01:49:18,100 --> 01:49:26,080
bars, we're still below what we are projecting as future projected demand. And let me talk

1645
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:31,600
a little bit about the demand line. So the bottom dashed line is the 2018 water demand.

1646
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:38,660
That was at 16,228 acre-feet per year. The next dashed bar across is the projected

1647
01:49:38,660 --> 01:49:42,300
projected potable water demand at buildout of the general plan.

1648
01:49:42,500 --> 01:49:45,500
We're projecting that to be about 34,000 acre feet.

1649
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:51,080
And then the line on the top is the projected total water demand, which would be potable

1650
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:51,960
and recycled.

1651
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:57,580
Again, at buildout of the general plan, we're projecting that to be about 39,000

1652
01:49:57,580 --> 01:49:58,200
acre feet.

1653
01:49:58,980 --> 01:50:06,160
And so then to close the gap between our existing supplies and what we need to

1654
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:06,920
meet the future.

1655
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:13,400
We're looking at recycled water as our primary way of closing that gap.

1656
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:16,080
And it's recycled water used in two different ways.

1657
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:21,760
One is the direct use of recycled water for irrigation of landscaping.

1658
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:24,720
So instead of using potable water, we would use recycled water.

1659
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:29,760
And that's the 5000 acre feet, the purple bar that's on the very top.

1660
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:34,780
And then we're also proposing to use recycled water as an exchange.

1661
01:50:34,780 --> 01:50:42,360
And so that's the gray bar that we're showing in between on all three bars and by recycled water exchange

1662
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:52,480
we are proposing to work negotiate a an arrangement an exchange agreement arrangement with the state

1663
01:50:53,220 --> 01:50:54,520
to be able to

1664
01:50:55,920 --> 01:51:00,580
Discharge treated recycled water to the Delta Mendoza canal

1665
01:51:00,580 --> 01:51:06,360
And it would be discharged just downstream of the city's John Jones water treatment plant.

1666
01:51:06,700 --> 01:51:10,840
And for the amount of water that gets discharged into the DMC,

1667
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:16,520
the city would then be able to take a like amount of water from the Delta Mendoza Canal,

1668
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:21,100
treat that at the city's treatment plant, and be able to use that for potable supply.

1669
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:27,320
So it's a way to basically use the recycled water in a way where you could basically trade it

1670
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:31,640
it for water that you could then treat and use for potable needs.

1671
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:38,060
This program is, we're not doing this right now, it needs to be negotiated with the state,

1672
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:44,060
but there have been initial conversations with the state about this and it looks to

1673
01:51:44,060 --> 01:51:52,420
be a feasible arrangement moving forward and it has been done by at least one other

1674
01:51:52,420 --> 01:51:58,580
agency in the state to have this sort of arrangement. What's good about this

1675
01:51:58,580 --> 01:52:03,220
deal is it's that supply is local to you, so you're not really depending on

1676
01:52:03,220 --> 01:52:08,000
another agency to have that supply. It does have to be approved by the state

1677
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:14,120
for the exchange agreement, but that supply is yours and it's wastewater

1678
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:17,760
that gets created at the city and then you're turning around and using it

1679
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:18,100
again.

1680
01:52:20,440 --> 01:52:28,320
So again, the message here is again that we are experiencing reduced reliability

1681
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:35,200
of the CVP and SSGID supplies, particularly in the dry years, and we will need additional

1682
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:40,160
supplies to meet that demand. And we're looking at the recycled water exchange and

1683
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:44,780
the recycled water for irrigation as a key way of doing that moving forward.

1684
01:52:44,780 --> 01:52:53,820
So just to sum up, the city does have a very strong portfolio of available water supply sources.

1685
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:59,480
And the city's residents have done, and the businesses have done a great job in conserving water

1686
01:52:59,480 --> 01:53:01,360
and improving their water use efficiency.

1687
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:09,280
But the city's future supply reliability will be impacted by drought and climate change and environmental issues.

1688
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:16,560
And we know that additional reliable water supplies are becoming more and more scarce in California.

1689
01:53:17,300 --> 01:53:25,760
So the city should be pursuing a recycled water exchange and other potential new water supplies as they move forward, I

1690
01:53:29,540 --> 01:53:29,900
think.

1691
01:53:31,140 --> 01:53:37,540
Yes, the next steps that we'll be taking with the water master plan, we are, I said these numbers are preliminary.

1692
01:53:37,540 --> 01:53:44,980
We will be completing the water demand and supply evaluation and then also looking at future water supply needs.

1693
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:53,500
We'll be looking at current and future water infrastructure and looking to see what improvements need to be made to meet those future demands.

1694
01:53:54,240 --> 01:54:00,100
And we're currently anticipating completion of the water master plan by late spring of 2020.

1695
01:54:00,740 --> 01:54:04,940
And thereafter, the master plan would go through environmental review,

1696
01:54:05,660 --> 01:54:09,240
and then the recommendations would be implemented.

1697
01:54:10,300 --> 01:54:12,140
And I think that's the end of my presentation.

1698
01:54:16,130 --> 01:54:16,810
Thanks, Elizabeth.

1699
01:54:17,690 --> 01:54:22,550
So, Council, as you can see, we wanted to highlight some of the issues that were out there.

1700
01:54:23,650 --> 01:54:29,070
To say that we're coming back with you, but we also wanted to have some of the solutions there as well.

1701
01:54:29,130 --> 01:54:31,230
We'd be happy to answer any questions you have.

1702
01:54:31,230 --> 01:54:33,670
All right. Thank you both very much. Very thorough.

1703
01:54:34,970 --> 01:54:39,890
Mayor, I have a point of clarification. I didn't want to interrupt during the presentation.

1704
01:54:40,930 --> 01:54:50,210
So if I understanding well, you're saying you will come back to us on the spring of 2020 with your study

1705
01:54:51,750 --> 01:54:58,690
and a recommendation to start to create a policy or just what is the intent?

1706
01:55:01,070 --> 01:55:08,350
I'm dating the master plan and the study of the master plan but is your intent to just

1707
01:55:08,350 --> 01:55:13,250
bring us recommendations so we can create policy on the water usage?

1708
01:55:13,690 --> 01:55:19,350
What we're doing with this, and I'll take a stab, is we're actually implementing what

1709
01:55:19,350 --> 01:55:22,710
you just saw relative to the solutions in the master plan.

1710
01:55:22,830 --> 01:55:25,970
What will come before you is approval of that update.

1711
01:55:25,970 --> 01:55:30,590
We're going to be socializing this with all the development community as well, particularly

1712
01:55:30,590 --> 01:55:34,390
because there's a number of water studies for projects that have to happen.

1713
01:55:34,810 --> 01:55:38,910
So this is kind of an update to let you know that the state, there are new regulations

1714
01:55:38,910 --> 01:55:40,090
and things from the state.

1715
01:55:40,570 --> 01:55:44,090
We're implementing these in the master plan as a way to shore up that gap.

1716
01:55:44,430 --> 01:55:49,330
And that's what will be for you in the spring of 2020 is approval of the master

1717
01:55:49,330 --> 01:55:49,690
plan.

1718
01:55:50,170 --> 01:55:53,990
I will say that we had a discussion, we're going to be going out and pursuing

1719
01:55:53,990 --> 01:56:00,570
this contract agreement amendment if you will with the state even now because this

1720
01:56:00,570 --> 01:56:03,930
is such an important element for our build out so we're going to be doing that

1721
01:56:03,930 --> 01:56:07,510
if it's kind of a check-in with you all that this is what's out there this is

1722
01:56:07,510 --> 01:56:10,810
what we're doing so we will be doing that as well. And then last point of

1723
01:56:10,810 --> 01:56:16,230
clarification before coming back to the mayor and so the importance of that

1724
01:56:17,050 --> 01:56:22,870
agreement with the state is to create the credits back so we can as we pump

1725
01:56:22,870 --> 01:56:31,150
water back into the delta, we are receiving water back the set amount that we're dumping

1726
01:56:31,150 --> 01:56:32,210
in, correct?

1727
01:56:32,630 --> 01:56:33,430
Yes, that's correct.

1728
01:56:34,050 --> 01:56:40,970
In fact, as Elizabeth highlighted, the master plan currently identifies about 5,000 or so

1729
01:56:40,970 --> 01:56:44,790
acre feet that we would be using as the direct exchange.

1730
01:56:45,710 --> 01:56:49,950
Our request to the state is to dramatically increase that number.

1731
01:56:49,950 --> 01:56:55,570
Remember, the recycle water is dependent on the treatment plant of the wastewater and

1732
01:56:55,570 --> 01:56:59,790
ultimately we're going to go to 21MGD at the wastewater treatment plant, so there's a lot

1733
01:56:59,790 --> 01:57:04,130
of capacity that we'll be able to use if we do this exchange with the state.

1734
01:57:04,310 --> 01:57:06,590
So that's our request from the state.

1735
01:57:06,830 --> 01:57:08,270
Thank you for the clarifications.

1736
01:57:08,570 --> 01:57:09,070
Thank you, Mayor.

1737
01:57:09,370 --> 01:57:09,670
All right.

1738
01:57:09,830 --> 01:57:10,110
Thank you.

1739
01:57:10,690 --> 01:57:11,070
All right.

1740
01:57:11,230 --> 01:57:12,470
At this time we'll open up for the public.

1741
01:57:12,950 --> 01:57:15,010
Anybody from the public wish to address Council on this item?

1742
01:57:15,010 --> 01:57:16,130
Mike

1743
01:57:30,180 --> 01:57:38,400
Sandu, Tracey, California. As far as I understand, this recycled water city of

1744
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:46,880
Tracey can pump in either to the ground or dump in Delta Mundo Tocanao and get

1745
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:52,600
credit back. Don't forget the last drought we had. We told our homeowners not

1746
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:58,700
to water their lawns and that just happened a few years ago and all this

1747
01:57:58,700 --> 01:58:08,960
water we could use for our homeowners. And in the years where there's no need, there

1748
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:13,860
are a lot of people out there on open bidding, they would buy that water from the city of

1749
01:58:13,860 --> 01:58:23,060
Tracy. They can, all that could be bid it out. And only places whose have done this

1750
01:58:23,060 --> 01:58:30,240
is already successfully they're already dumping water from a distro series and

1751
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:35,040
third lock delport water district that's your local water district they got the

1752
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:38,980
state permit they already have the experience and they've been already

1753
01:58:38,980 --> 01:58:43,900
dumping it and getting credit back for their water thank you thank you Mr.

1754
01:58:43,980 --> 01:58:46,480
Sandio anyone else they

1755
01:58:53,170 --> 01:58:56,230
none bring it back to cancel is that a quick question

1756
01:58:57,010 --> 01:59:05,670
for Ms. Ramirez. So it looks like it's coming back in late spring for the master plan update.

1757
01:59:06,130 --> 01:59:12,090
However, water law is an incredibly complex issue. So do you anticipate that we'll have

1758
01:59:12,090 --> 01:59:16,590
the agreement with the state for the recycled water exchange by the time that we're returning

1759
01:59:16,590 --> 01:59:18,390
the master plan update or no?

1760
01:59:19,790 --> 01:59:27,150
Likely not, and we, as you stated, water law is actually highly complex and heavily regulated.

1761
01:59:27,610 --> 01:59:32,930
We do work closely with outside counsel from Downey brand, actually their Sacramento office,

1762
01:59:33,630 --> 01:59:37,530
one of their key partners who's been representing the city on water issues,

1763
01:59:37,690 --> 01:59:42,750
and in front of the state regulatory agencies for a number of years, I want to say 10, 20 years.

1764
01:59:42,750 --> 01:59:49,770
But I know that agreement is currently in progress and likely will not be finalized by the spring

1765
01:59:49,770 --> 01:59:50,370
of 2020.

1766
01:59:50,770 --> 01:59:51,230
Okay.

1767
01:59:51,350 --> 01:59:55,050
But that will be included in the master plan update, at least the progress towards that

1768
01:59:55,050 --> 01:59:55,650
particular goal?

1769
01:59:56,490 --> 01:59:56,590
Yes.

1770
01:59:56,830 --> 01:59:57,150
Cool.

1771
01:59:57,330 --> 01:59:58,390
Sharma can answer that too.

1772
01:59:59,030 --> 01:59:59,410
Okay.

1773
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:05,100
We already met with the state on this issue. We had a very successful meeting, but there

1774
02:00:05,100 --> 02:00:10,080
will be multiple meetings and a lot of requirements from the states before we have this agreement.

1775
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:13,260
Okay, thank you. Thank you, Council Member.

1776
02:00:15,380 --> 02:00:19,100
Thank you, Mayor. I want to first thank staff

1777
02:00:19,100 --> 02:00:28,780
because I have met last week and again today I appreciate Coole and Ms.

1778
02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:34,100
Haryama for taking the time to walk me through this process like councilmen

1779
02:00:34,100 --> 02:00:40,980
I realize when water and water laws are extremely complex very difficult but we

1780
02:00:40,980 --> 02:00:44,800
must get it right because the future and the well-being of our community

1781
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:53,260
depending on this. And not to be over dramatic, not to be, you know, but how we grow, how we

1782
02:00:53,920 --> 02:01:02,580
able to exist and the quality of life of our citizens depend on getting good policies and

1783
02:01:02,580 --> 02:01:10,180
good recommendations into the next steps. As I share with the staff today, we're still

1784
02:01:10,180 --> 02:01:14,180
paying the consequences of the last drought.

1785
02:01:14,420 --> 02:01:17,760
We're still removing the trees and chivalry.

1786
02:01:17,860 --> 02:01:23,060
We still have medians in areas where we have no plants,

1787
02:01:23,380 --> 02:01:28,360
no trees, and we need to figure out how to find money

1788
02:01:28,360 --> 02:01:32,480
to bring those landscape up to what they used to be.

1789
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:36,020
So with that being said, I also learned,

1790
02:01:36,020 --> 02:01:43,980
And correct me if I'm wrong, if I want to just go over some of the conversations I done.

1791
02:01:44,100 --> 02:01:51,820
So mainly for the public to know that if we are not successful in getting this right, there

1792
02:01:51,820 --> 02:01:57,800
are consequences to, if possible, if a drought it will come next year.

1793
02:01:58,280 --> 02:02:02,800
The state could cut our water supplies between 70 and 80 percent.

1794
02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:03,840
Is that correct?

1795
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:14,880
Perfect. So with that being said, the recycled water, it's now have a larger play until they

1796
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:21,800
to lay in our future. And I'm glad that you guys are embarking into this endeavor all about

1797
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:29,120
updating our master planning for water. But I think that after the spring and after the

1798
02:02:29,120 --> 02:02:35,220
update of the planning. We, the City Council, if it's not this one, the next one, should

1799
02:02:35,220 --> 02:02:41,880
look into making policies of when and how that recycled waters use. Other cities have

1800
02:02:41,880 --> 02:02:49,600
done that. Other cities, for example, besides getting credit from this day, they utilize

1801
02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:58,580
all the recycle water for the usage of landscaping,

1802
02:02:58,640 --> 02:03:03,060
medians, or parks, or to sell back to our neighbors.

1803
02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:07,140
We are lucky to have different agencies.

1804
02:03:07,480 --> 02:03:11,480
And I'm going to mention we did receive the letter from BBID.

1805
02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:13,700
Okay, I'm going to stop it real quick.

1806
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:16,440
Are we jumping into 3F when we're talking about recycle water?

1807
02:03:16,780 --> 02:03:17,160
No.

1808
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:22,140
I think the letter might be referring to three.

1809
02:03:22,300 --> 02:03:23,860
I believe the letter.

1810
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:25,900
I'm just talking about item 3E.

1811
02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:27,580
Can I continue?

1812
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:28,120
Yes, please.

1813
02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:28,660
Just be cautious.

1814
02:03:29,180 --> 02:03:29,620
Absolutely.

1815
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:30,540
Thank you, Mayor.

1816
02:03:31,220 --> 02:03:37,080
So with that being said, I'm going to go back to what I was trying to refer is the policies.

1817
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:41,880
As we do master planning and we do standards with everything,

1818
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:49,640
And we supposed to, I think, we should look into policies to make sure that the city is

1819
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:55,380
protected, to always have the ability to serve our community first.

1820
02:03:56,380 --> 02:03:58,180
So updating the plan is great.

1821
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:04,420
Creating policy is the next step to make sure that our resources are available for

1822
02:04:04,420 --> 02:04:09,320
whenever the need arise within our community.

1823
02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:17,320
So, with that being said, is that a step, and that's what I was asking before.

1824
02:04:17,460 --> 02:04:21,280
The step is updating the plan, come back to council in the spring,

1825
02:04:22,020 --> 02:04:27,320
make the recommendations, creating policy. Is that correct?

1826
02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:32,960
Yes, I think as it relates to the policies, as Mr. Sharma mentioned,

1827
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:34,760
we're having discussions with the state.

1828
02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:38,680
right now we don't have a permit to do the exchange.

1829
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:41,660
And so what we want to make sure that we're careful

1830
02:04:41,660 --> 02:04:44,940
about having policies about how to maybe prioritize

1831
02:04:44,940 --> 02:04:46,780
or other things related to that exchange

1832
02:04:46,780 --> 02:04:49,040
without yet having the state approval,

1833
02:04:49,300 --> 02:04:52,960
we want to make sure that that's not inconsistent.

1834
02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:56,140
And so I think the only thing that the correction there

1835
02:04:56,140 --> 02:04:59,020
or clarification would be that once the state

1836
02:04:59,020 --> 02:05:02,720
either approves the exchange or we have a good sense,

1837
02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:09,100
start to work on the policies about how do you prioritize or do deal with the excess recycled

1838
02:05:09,100 --> 02:05:09,500
water?

1839
02:05:09,980 --> 02:05:21,100
Perfect. And how likely it is for our community to use a full portion, it looks like by the

1840
02:05:21,100 --> 02:05:26,880
drawings that we have surplus right now, is that correct? Or recycled water?

1841
02:05:35,470 --> 02:05:36,030
Do you have a surplus?

1842
02:05:38,030 --> 02:05:38,550
Or not?

1843
02:05:40,340 --> 02:05:48,800
Right now we are not using any recycled water. So once the recycled water project is constructed,

1844
02:05:49,580 --> 02:05:56,200
then we will be starting using it for legacy fields and percentia fields and sports complex.

1845
02:05:56,820 --> 02:06:06,600
But also we do have permission from the state to use the recycled water,

1846
02:06:06,600 --> 02:06:13,560
and that is the change in place of use of recycled water.

1847
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:20,200
So right now our treated water effluent or recycled water goes to the old river.

1848
02:06:21,180 --> 02:06:26,240
State has allowed us to use for the irrigation purposes within the city.

1849
02:06:26,940 --> 02:06:36,260
But the state order requires us also to make some water available to some other irrigation districts as well if we can't use it.

1850
02:06:36,260 --> 02:06:38,780
So it's a little bit complicated at this time.

1851
02:06:39,540 --> 02:06:45,360
So we already have the state order asking us to use this water

1852
02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:48,680
within the sphere of influence area.

1853
02:06:49,540 --> 02:06:53,300
And our goal will be to use that water by the city first

1854
02:06:53,300 --> 02:06:58,040
and then go to the other agency which is listed in the state order.

1855
02:06:59,220 --> 02:07:02,780
For example, WSID or BBID.

1856
02:07:03,720 --> 02:07:10,680
So, cool. We don't really know yet what that will look like. It seems like we don't know

1857
02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:17,340
yet how much recycled water we will be using or not, and if we will have eventually after

1858
02:07:17,820 --> 02:07:26,100
it's constructed a surplus or not, and we don't know yet what the state is going to

1859
02:07:26,100 --> 02:07:33,100
obligate us to make sure that we provide our other water agencies or not so all

1860
02:07:33,100 --> 02:07:38,780
that will come sounds like it it will come and spring and it's more

1861
02:07:38,780 --> 02:07:43,180
conversation to happen yeah correct yeah right now we are concentrating on

1862
02:07:43,180 --> 02:07:47,780
the completion of the project we have and once we have it then we'll start

1863
02:07:47,780 --> 02:07:52,100
using it and then we'll be looking into how much infrastructure we have to

1864
02:07:52,100 --> 02:07:57,660
which park, how much they left. But then also the state order complicates a little bit that

1865
02:07:57,660 --> 02:08:02,620
this water should be used within the influence area. But they have only allocated us right

1866
02:08:02,620 --> 02:08:09,180
now the order we got from the state is for about 6,000 acre feet. But once we get more

1867
02:08:09,180 --> 02:08:12,760
orders that may have some different places of use as well.

1868
02:08:13,460 --> 02:08:19,800
Well, I love that you guys are being proactive, moving us forward and trying to just look

1869
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:25,280
ahead. So thank you for bringing this item up. Thank you, all of you, for a very well

1870
02:08:28,620 --> 02:08:33,700
written staff report. And I look forward to hearing this item again and see where we are

1871
02:08:33,700 --> 02:08:42,280
in the spring. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. I have a few questions, but just I'm

1872
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:48,200
just trying to wrap my head around why if the laws and everything around water and everything

1873
02:08:48,200 --> 02:08:53,040
is complicated and we may not have that by spring of 2020. The purpose of even letting

1874
02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:58,640
us know this now is what, what are we trying to, I mean I know you're just giving us information

1875
02:08:58,640 --> 02:09:04,460
but you're just letting us know that you're coming back in the spring with water plans.

1876
02:09:04,660 --> 02:09:08,680
Is there something that needs to happen before that besides to talk with the state

1877
02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:14,500
which may not happen? Well as I mentioned, we're actually dealing with the state now

1878
02:09:14,500 --> 02:09:21,760
And so, part of it was making sure that you're aware and the community is aware of some of the challenges with reliability,

1879
02:09:22,440 --> 02:09:27,020
but also that we are working with the state and we believe there's a way that we can shore up the gap.

1880
02:09:27,460 --> 02:09:29,300
Those bars that you saw are for build-out.

1881
02:09:29,740 --> 02:09:34,560
And so, while Tracy has a multiple sources of water, we've always been very proactive,

1882
02:09:35,020 --> 02:09:39,220
this is just coming to you in addition with that to say, there's some challenges out there,

1883
02:09:39,220 --> 02:09:44,640
But we have a solution for it and we're moving forward with the negotiations or discussions with the state now

1884
02:09:45,220 --> 02:09:51,840
Okay, do we have any set things in place of how often we actually review our city-wide?

1885
02:09:52,500 --> 02:09:58,460
Water plan water system master plan. It was done in 2012. I know that there's an urban one

1886
02:09:58,460 --> 02:10:02,400
That's to do every five years. So it's not due till 2021 for us

1887
02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:07,260
But do we have a set time period that we're looking at this or is just as needed?

1888
02:10:07,260 --> 02:10:12,200
So typically what we do with the master plans is sewer water storm road public

1889
02:10:12,200 --> 02:10:15,360
facilities alike there's been a couple that have come forward to you all to

1890
02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:19,460
increase the costs you know there's engineering news record goes up every

1891
02:10:19,460 --> 02:10:24,500
year but about every three to five years we try to do a little bit more of

1892
02:10:24,500 --> 02:10:29,060
an exhaustive review to say what are there's some things that there are

1893
02:10:29,060 --> 02:10:34,080
any changes for example development assumptions change if there's less

1894
02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:38,960
homes being built or that kind of stuff through the re-zonings and that, we try to incorporate

1895
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:43,680
those in more intensive changes about every three to five years and stuff.

1896
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:47,340
Okay, so we're like about eight years since the last one.

1897
02:10:47,340 --> 02:10:50,960
Fees have gone up, but this is one where we're actually doing a bit more of a comprehensive.

1898
02:10:51,600 --> 02:10:58,900
And also I think one of the other reasons is that from October 2012, things have changed

1899
02:10:58,900 --> 02:11:05,460
a little bit. Like for example, we were relying very heavily on south San Joaquin County Irrigation

1900
02:11:05,460 --> 02:11:12,540
District water. And for example, for Corpus Ranch, we took almost, we already purchased

1901
02:11:12,540 --> 02:11:20,540
about 1,280 acre feet. And we do need additional 780 acre feet from them. And that was our

1902
02:11:20,540 --> 02:11:27,820
plan in 2012. So now things have changed. SSJID doesn't have that 780 acre feet

1903
02:11:27,820 --> 02:11:33,740
of water available to us anymore. So that water is gone. Plus the water which we are getting

1904
02:11:33,740 --> 02:11:42,460
from SSGID was 100% reliable and now that can be reduced to 64% less than what we have.

1905
02:11:42,580 --> 02:11:50,780
So basically out of 1000 acre feet we can have only 3600, 360 acre feet. So those are

1906
02:11:50,780 --> 02:11:58,740
changes, so our sources are getting scarce. So that is another need to update it. And

1907
02:11:58,740 --> 02:12:03,480
normally that never happened before, and we are very comfortable. So with this master

1908
02:12:04,060 --> 02:12:08,080
plan update, we will be updating the other sources, what we have and what we don't.

1909
02:12:08,740 --> 02:12:14,520
Okay. Because I didn't notice on the slide where it says for SJID potentially reduces

1910
02:12:14,520 --> 02:12:18,500
average. I mean, is that most likely? I mean, just potential. And there's a potential

1911
02:12:18,500 --> 02:12:20,380
for a lot of things because it's a huge number.

1912
02:12:22,160 --> 02:12:25,040
The SSJD, we were negotiating with them.

1913
02:12:25,220 --> 02:12:26,800
We wanted to have additional water from them

1914
02:12:26,800 --> 02:12:29,160
and they don't have that water available anymore.

1915
02:12:31,740 --> 02:12:34,400
OK, but by spring, we probably will

1916
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:39,020
know what that potential really is, or maybe will we know?

1917
02:12:39,180 --> 02:12:40,860
Will we be more fine-tuned by then?

1918
02:12:40,940 --> 02:12:42,080
No, that one is very clear.

1919
02:12:42,220 --> 02:12:42,840
We don't have it.

1920
02:12:44,220 --> 02:12:47,940
But by spring, we will finalize this document,

1921
02:12:48,080 --> 02:12:48,880
bring it back to you.

1922
02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:54,840
So we are trying to assess it, what impacts are, and what we know right now.

1923
02:12:55,560 --> 02:13:00,040
And if things change between now and spring, definitely we'll bring it back to you as well.

1924
02:13:00,160 --> 02:13:06,240
And I guess I wanted to say that all the master plans, this one included is a 30-year lookout, right?

1925
02:13:06,620 --> 02:13:11,660
So in spring, we'll have more information. I don't know if we'll have all the information,

1926
02:13:11,980 --> 02:13:14,620
but we'll have certainly the discussions that we have from the state.

1927
02:13:14,620 --> 02:13:18,360
We think this solution going forward will certainly help us.

1928
02:13:18,900 --> 02:13:24,360
We can't predict exactly what's going to happen with water reliability with the state,

1929
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:29,280
but we can do things on our side to help insulate from anything that might happen in the future

1930
02:13:29,280 --> 02:13:32,140
so that we can build out to our general plan potential.

1931
02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:35,480
Okay, so I guess just a clarification for myself.

1932
02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:38,620
So because they have pulled that back definitely,

1933
02:13:38,920 --> 02:13:42,360
that makes the potential that our overall supplies will be reduced.

1934
02:13:42,360 --> 02:13:46,000
that's what that's what that line actually means that is correct thank you

1935
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:52,800
now I got that and so for what other options do we have besides what we're

1936
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:56,240
negotiating for I mean I know this is solution but we're talking about the

1937
02:13:56,240 --> 02:14:01,960
recycle water as an option if they're if the state will allow us to exchange but

1938
02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:06,320
what other what other sources do we have seeing that we have a strong

1939
02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:09,840
portfolio I'm not sure what all that is and I don't even pretend to be a

1940
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:12,220
a specialist in water?

1941
02:14:12,940 --> 02:14:16,780
Yeah, actually in 2012 we thought that we have a very strong portfolio.

1942
02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:18,200
I think we still believe we have it.

1943
02:14:19,300 --> 02:14:24,220
But at that time the water which we are getting from CVP,

1944
02:14:24,420 --> 02:14:27,400
that is Central Valley Project, that is from Delta Moda Canal,

1945
02:14:28,060 --> 02:14:29,520
that was 100% reliable.

1946
02:14:30,880 --> 02:14:38,100
Rebel means if a state or US Bureau cannot reduce our supplies,

1947
02:14:38,100 --> 02:14:43,600
But they did that one. They reduced their supplies during drought. So now what's

1948
02:14:43,600 --> 02:14:49,340
happening is it's very difficult to get reliable sources of water. So all these

1949
02:14:49,340 --> 02:14:55,520
sources we have, they are not that reliable as we thought in 2012. However,

1950
02:14:56,480 --> 02:14:59,540
However, recycle water is a reliable source.

1951
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:04,100
We have a control over it, and that cannot be taken away by anybody else.

1952
02:15:04,780 --> 02:15:10,080
And we have some control on ASR well, that is, we have a control.

1953
02:15:11,180 --> 02:15:16,700
SSJID, we thought we have full reliability from them, and that reliability is gone.

1954
02:15:17,060 --> 02:15:24,200
So reliability is going, has been what we had in 2012 is not there anymore.

1955
02:15:25,100 --> 02:15:30,600
And it's in a changing situation in the water throughout California.

1956
02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:35,540
To clarify, that's in times of drought, I want to clarify.

1957
02:15:36,500 --> 02:15:42,160
The other is you may have read from some cities in the Bay Area or Tri Valley and even in southern California

1958
02:15:42,160 --> 02:15:50,140
that a process called reverse osmosis where they actually treat the effluent from the wastewater treatment plant

1959
02:15:50,140 --> 02:15:56,620
to such an extent that it's used extensively, I'll put it that way.

1960
02:15:57,100 --> 02:16:00,000
Yeah, actually, the city of San Diego is doing it.

1961
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:02,300
What they're doing is they're...

1962
02:16:02,300 --> 02:16:04,700
It's clear, waste, right, though you're referring to?

1963
02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:05,260
Yes.

1964
02:16:05,420 --> 02:16:07,240
So out of our toilets, we're there and then we drink it.

1965
02:16:07,300 --> 02:16:08,800
No, but they're doing it, they're technically,

1966
02:16:09,180 --> 02:16:10,880
what they're doing is the city of San Diego,

1967
02:16:11,520 --> 02:16:13,180
they're getting the wastewater effluent,

1968
02:16:13,960 --> 02:16:16,780
putting it in a lake with other water, combining it,

1969
02:16:17,560 --> 02:16:19,080
and then treating it again,

1970
02:16:19,080 --> 02:16:24,760
and then doing a super treatment called reverse osmosis and then they're

1971
02:16:24,760 --> 02:16:29,140
serving it back to the people. So in that sense we are a little bit lucky

1972
02:16:29,140 --> 02:16:33,660
because we have a source close to us, Taldum and Oda canal, where we can

1973
02:16:33,660 --> 02:16:38,260
discharge it downstream somewhere and pump the same amount of water upstream

1974
02:16:38,260 --> 02:16:43,820
somewhere and we can treat it and we will not see any difference if we are

1975
02:16:43,820 --> 02:16:49,800
successful in that endeavor. Can we just send that down south? Yeah, our water will be going

1976
02:16:49,800 --> 02:16:50,540
down south, yes.

1977
02:16:52,620 --> 02:16:57,140
Actually, we met with State, actually. Our first proposal was can we pump

1978
02:16:57,140 --> 02:17:02,120
that water in or discharge their water into Delta Monodak canal upstream of the West

1979
02:17:02,120 --> 02:17:07,200
War treatment plant and State is not ready in the Northern California. If you are in

1980
02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:12,820
the south, they may have allowed us. So they told us, no, it's not a good idea

1981
02:17:12,820 --> 02:17:17,580
to discharge into canal upstream of your treatment plant,

1982
02:17:17,700 --> 02:17:20,000
but we may allow you, they say may,

1983
02:17:20,580 --> 02:17:23,360
to discharge downstream of your treatment plant,

1984
02:17:23,800 --> 02:17:26,100
and then you can pump out the same amount of water

1985
02:17:26,100 --> 02:17:28,580
at your treatment plant, which is coming from the Delta.

1986
02:17:29,300 --> 02:17:31,320
So we're becoming a little bit more creative,

1987
02:17:32,280 --> 02:17:34,240
and we hope we will be successful.

1988
02:17:35,060 --> 02:17:38,140
We got very kind of a positive response,

1989
02:17:38,260 --> 02:17:39,140
but we are not there yet.

1990
02:17:40,040 --> 02:17:42,180
As part of solutions, are we looking at storage?

1991
02:17:42,180 --> 02:17:46,940
because that was one of the things that was talked about before years ago when we were

1992
02:17:46,940 --> 02:17:51,100
talking about water updates, as far as our storage here, especially for droughts. So I

1993
02:17:51,100 --> 02:17:55,900
don't know if we can expand our storage. Do we have any surplus in our storage or how does

1994
02:17:55,900 --> 02:17:58,480
that even factor into that? Because I don't see this as a part of it.

1995
02:17:58,480 --> 02:18:02,300
What we are doing is right now, storage wise will be very expensive and we have to

1996
02:18:02,300 --> 02:18:07,520
invest a lot of money. But ASR, which is the Echo for Storage Recovery Program,

1997
02:18:07,520 --> 02:18:14,060
program, basically which we inject water into the ground when we have surplus water and

1998
02:18:14,060 --> 02:18:16,580
then we take it out the same amount of water from the wells.

1999
02:18:17,420 --> 02:18:24,900
So that program we already have it and we have well number eight which is on 6th Street

2000
02:18:24,900 --> 02:18:26,540
and Tracy Boulevard.

2001
02:18:27,220 --> 02:18:32,840
So we have that equipment installed over there and that's so we inject that water

2002
02:18:32,840 --> 02:18:36,400
during the rainy season and we can pump that water out.

2003
02:18:36,400 --> 02:18:42,860
And if you see those, the graph, and it shows about 3,000 acre feet of water, which we can

2004
02:18:42,860 --> 02:18:43,480
recover it back.

2005
02:18:44,140 --> 02:18:46,260
The question comes up, why only one well?

2006
02:18:46,380 --> 02:18:47,580
Why don't we do all the wells?

2007
02:18:48,720 --> 02:18:51,380
And that is a question we looked into it.

2008
02:18:52,400 --> 02:18:58,880
The problem is, state has given us a permit, and they are allowing us to use the only

2009
02:18:59,600 --> 02:19:02,140
SSJID water to inject into the ground.

2010
02:19:02,720 --> 02:19:07,560
the water which we get from south sand in irrigation district. They don't allow us to

2011
02:19:07,560 --> 02:19:15,000
use the DMC water to inject into it. So when the water is coming from SSJID from the east

2012
02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:23,660
of Tracy, basically we shut down our treatment plant because the system totally has to be

2013
02:19:23,660 --> 02:19:29,160
shut down and the water has to go through all the areas, all the zones and all the

2014
02:19:29,160 --> 02:19:34,060
reservoirs we have in the city. So, imagine that the amount of water we are getting from

2015
02:19:34,780 --> 02:19:40,920
ASAID, we have to serve the existing city, we also have to inject it, and we don't have

2016
02:19:40,920 --> 02:19:45,300
that water from them. We don't have enough water to serve it. So we can only have only

2017
02:19:45,300 --> 02:19:52,040
one well for ASR well, and we can't have 10 wells, and we can't inject that water

2018
02:19:52,040 --> 02:19:57,180
unless our permit is applied by the state, and there's a possibility they may revise

2019
02:19:57,180 --> 02:20:03,880
it, but it's a difficult task and it will take a lot of time. We don't know. So at this

2020
02:20:03,880 --> 02:20:07,560
time we have only one well which is allowed and we are using it to the maximum extent.

2021
02:20:08,160 --> 02:20:13,760
So the aquifer storage, aquifer storage and others will maintain, we will still maximize

2022
02:20:13,760 --> 02:20:17,040
that. That's not changing in the master plan. So that's still going to be one of our options.

2023
02:20:17,040 --> 02:20:17,780
We are using that one.

2024
02:20:23,740 --> 02:20:31,480
Yes. So thank you very much for bringing this very complicated issue back to us.

2025
02:20:32,660 --> 02:20:37,460
I don't know, Cole, if you remember, we had this very lengthy discussion years ago when

2026
02:20:37,460 --> 02:20:43,120
we were approving Tracy Hills and I was concerned about do we have enough water and I was reassured

2027
02:20:43,120 --> 02:20:48,240
that all of these different resources were available so that when we approved projects

2028
02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:49,880
we knew that the water would be available.

2029
02:20:50,360 --> 02:20:54,540
We talked about groundwater, well water, you know, all the different sources.

2030
02:20:54,540 --> 02:21:03,600
And so I do understand that the 2018 legislation has changed a little bit, well, a lot of bit of that.

2031
02:21:03,900 --> 02:21:11,140
But I just want to understand what kind of the danger is.

2032
02:21:12,980 --> 02:21:16,440
So I feel like I got mixed feelings from this report.

2033
02:21:16,940 --> 02:21:18,660
It's like the supply is strong.

2034
02:21:18,920 --> 02:21:21,720
It says, you know, we have a strong portfolio of available sources.

2035
02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:27,360
But then I kind of feel like there's this huge risk factor that maybe we're not really talking about.

2036
02:21:27,720 --> 02:21:36,040
So I want to look at the first graph where we show the different sources, SSJID,

2037
02:21:36,500 --> 02:21:41,060
which is primarily the majority of the source we use now,

2038
02:21:41,320 --> 02:21:46,240
which looks like we started using that as our primary source about 2005 as indicated earlier.

2039
02:21:46,960 --> 02:21:50,600
And then 2012 was the last report to current.

2040
02:21:50,600 --> 02:21:58,420
So, our historical water use based on population to current is about the same and in some years

2041
02:21:58,420 --> 02:22:05,040
is lower but now we've exchanged the, we were using SSID but now you're telling us that

2042
02:22:05,040 --> 02:22:09,020
may not be as available depending on the drought years.

2043
02:22:09,020 --> 02:22:22,180
What I'm trying to be clear about is how much of the other categories we actually can access.

2044
02:22:22,320 --> 02:22:24,360
So I do see your supply and demand chart.

2045
02:22:24,920 --> 02:22:35,580
But when we're looking at the surface water versus what we can get from the wells and so on and so forth,

2046
02:22:35,580 --> 02:22:44,200
But how much can we actually, if SSJID is not available, what is actually, how much acre

2047
02:22:44,200 --> 02:22:48,020
fee can we compensate from our other resources, if that may?

2048
02:22:48,360 --> 02:22:49,960
Tell me if that's too complicated of a question.

2049
02:22:50,720 --> 02:22:52,620
Let me try to make it simple if I can.

2050
02:22:53,480 --> 02:22:59,980
If I can go back to the projected future, what supply versus demand graph, that will

2051
02:22:59,980 --> 02:23:03,320
be, if I can have the overhead.

2052
02:23:06,960 --> 02:23:10,120
So I see thirty four. That is a power point, please.

2053
02:23:10,280 --> 02:23:14,220
It's a power point. Slide seven.

2054
02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:21,700
Can you try it? Go

2055
02:23:21,700 --> 02:23:22,400
backwards, yeah.

2056
02:23:24,610 --> 02:23:26,150
Go ahead. Backwards, yeah.

2057
02:23:29,610 --> 02:23:32,730
Yes. Right. That's where I was looking. Yeah. Okay.

2058
02:23:33,630 --> 02:23:37,910
So let me try to make it simpler. So if you look into the normal

2059
02:23:37,910 --> 02:23:41,490
year, the first graph, first vertical graph,

2060
02:23:41,490 --> 02:23:48,810
And we have a water supply of 26,588 acre-feet.

2061
02:23:51,300 --> 02:23:59,280
And if you look into the top bar we have, that is the full build-out of our general plan.

2062
02:24:00,320 --> 02:24:09,900
So, and our need over there is 39,000 acre-feet when the developments within the sphere of influence are completed or built out.

2063
02:24:09,900 --> 02:24:20,280
So we will need about 39,000 acre-feet. So we do have 26,588,600 acre-feet of water.

2064
02:24:21,180 --> 02:24:28,220
Then we do need 7,500 acre-feet of recycled water in a normal year.

2065
02:24:29,680 --> 02:24:34,040
And that will be a recycled water exchange and we have to get approval from the state.

2066
02:24:34,040 --> 02:24:42,400
So in addition to that, if you look into the top, another 5,000 acre-feet will be

2067
02:24:42,400 --> 02:24:49,080
using for irrigation, the landscaping irrigation. So the total amount of

2068
02:24:49,080 --> 02:24:58,540
recycled water in a normal year will be needed, that will be 10, 11.2, sorry, it's a

2069
02:24:58,540 --> 02:25:12,700
12,537 acre feet and that equates to 11.2 mgd. I'm putting some numbers over here. So

2070
02:25:15,100 --> 02:25:16,900
we have a

2071
02:25:16,900 --> 02:25:24,580
shortage in a normal year but this shortage now gets more complicated when we go to a single dry

2072
02:25:24,580 --> 02:25:31,680
year when we go to the drought year. Our supply is, instead of 26,588 acre-feet,

2073
02:25:32,080 --> 02:25:38,920
reduces to 18,751 acre-feet. This is our best guess. It could be more, it

2074
02:25:38,920 --> 02:25:39,380
could be less.

2075
02:25:42,800 --> 02:25:46,440
And then we are using all the other sources. So we'll be using

2076
02:25:46,440 --> 02:25:54,820
about 12,000 acre-feet of recycled water for exchange, and we'll be still

2077
02:25:54,820 --> 02:26:02,560
using 5,000 for irrigation purposes. So we'll be needing about 17,374 acre-feet for the

2078
02:26:02,560 --> 02:26:03,040
second water.

2079
02:26:04,780 --> 02:26:11,640
Let me take a quick stab to you because some of this is highly dependent on, as Kul said,

2080
02:26:11,760 --> 02:26:16,520
this is the build-out of the general plan. That's a lot of land area that we're talking

2081
02:26:16,520 --> 02:26:22,020
about here, the full build-out, right? Some of this is dependent on if this market

2082
02:26:22,020 --> 02:26:23,100
it stays the way it is.

2083
02:26:23,280 --> 02:26:25,920
We've been talking a little bit about what do we anticipate

2084
02:26:25,920 --> 02:26:29,940
to be the growth over the next five, six, seven type of years.

2085
02:26:31,000 --> 02:26:33,660
And so really all of that plays into this about

2086
02:26:33,660 --> 02:26:36,420
is this an immediate thing that we need to have

2087
02:26:36,420 --> 02:26:39,420
the recycled water, five, a 10 year.

2088
02:26:40,280 --> 02:26:42,780
So a lot of it is highly dependent on the growth,

2089
02:26:43,360 --> 02:26:45,840
on the reliability numbers as we said.

2090
02:26:46,800 --> 02:26:49,620
I don't wanna come off as the sky's falling

2091
02:26:49,620 --> 02:26:53,400
because there is some time out there that we can solve this,

2092
02:26:53,940 --> 02:26:57,580
but I just wanted to clarify that all that is highly dependent upon

2093
02:26:58,420 --> 02:27:02,120
development occurring in the way it has in the past, or that type of thing.

2094
02:27:02,700 --> 02:27:05,380
Okay, thank you for... Can you go back to that slide?

2095
02:27:07,300 --> 02:27:10,020
So I appreciate that. So I guess

2096
02:27:11,780 --> 02:27:15,600
at full build-out, because that's what we're looking at on this project,

2097
02:27:15,600 --> 02:27:21,000
future, right? Full build out. So the difference between what we were told a few years ago, full

2098
02:27:21,000 --> 02:27:26,640
build out was, don't worry, we have plenty of access, but the difference is now this SSJID.

2099
02:27:28,260 --> 02:27:32,600
And the state also, the CVP water, which we get from the Delta Moderna canal.

2100
02:27:33,220 --> 02:27:33,480
Okay.

2101
02:27:33,600 --> 02:27:34,060
That also.

2102
02:27:34,420 --> 02:27:41,500
So the difference is, can you tell me like which, as far as groundwater, so we went through

2103
02:27:41,500 --> 02:27:44,480
this whole exercise and said, well, what if this is not available? What if that's

2104
02:27:44,480 --> 02:27:47,160
not available and it was like, well, we'll go to the groundwater, we'll go here.

2105
02:27:47,740 --> 02:27:52,780
And so I understand that the changes in the loss has significantly changed things so I

2106
02:27:52,780 --> 02:27:56,440
can't hold you accountable for things that weren't in place then.

2107
02:27:56,860 --> 02:28:01,480
I'm just trying to understand when we're looking at these projected and you're showing

2108
02:28:01,480 --> 02:28:08,920
me the shortage, can you show me with more, so I see the existing supply and then

2109
02:28:08,920 --> 02:28:12,080
I see the recycled water exchange.

2110
02:28:12,080 --> 02:28:16,220
but I don't see and I know that it's all in there is can you kind of give me a

2111
02:28:16,220 --> 02:28:22,360
breakdown because the existing supply includes CVP, SSGID and groundwater

2112
02:28:22,360 --> 02:28:26,580
but can you break it down a little bit further? No, I understand the question so

2113
02:28:26,580 --> 02:28:35,100
let's say in a normal year out of let's say single drought year 18,751 acre

2114
02:28:35,100 --> 02:28:48,640
So this includes about 9,000 acre-feet of water from our wells and that is the safe yield from our wells.

2115
02:28:49,720 --> 02:28:56,480
If we probably can have more water but then it will be impacting our sustainability of the wells itself

2116
02:28:56,480 --> 02:29:04,420
and not to make it more complicated, the wells will be going into our new program called GSA

2117
02:29:04,420 --> 02:29:07,800
It's a ground sustainability agency, which we are one.

2118
02:29:08,440 --> 02:29:11,420
So everywhere you get water, it's getting complicated.

2119
02:29:12,080 --> 02:29:14,780
So there's more controls, checks and balances.

2120
02:29:15,500 --> 02:29:15,780
Okay.

2121
02:29:16,340 --> 02:29:21,320
So 9,000 acre feet, we can get more from the whales, which...

2122
02:29:21,320 --> 02:29:23,400
Which is included in this 18,700.

2123
02:29:23,400 --> 02:29:24,160
It's already included.

2124
02:29:24,720 --> 02:29:25,980
Okay, and then there's more,

2125
02:29:26,500 --> 02:29:28,240
but we may not be able to access more.

2126
02:29:28,360 --> 02:29:29,360
When you say there's more,

2127
02:29:29,540 --> 02:29:31,860
but we may not be safe, how much more are we talking?

2128
02:29:31,860 --> 02:29:37,760
I mean we will be drawing down from the over wells and that will be impacting the sustainably

2129
02:29:37,760 --> 02:29:42,360
I just want to know like how much is there if emergency happens as example.

2130
02:29:44,280 --> 02:29:46,980
We can even go even one and a half twice.

2131
02:29:47,520 --> 02:29:48,840
I mean we can go twice.

2132
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:54,160
And I know it changes from the 9,000 acre feet number for the groundwater is based on a safe yield

2133
02:29:54,160 --> 02:29:59,780
estimate that was done several years ago and so that's thought to be sort of the maximum sustain.

2134
02:30:10,220 --> 02:30:18,900
I'm trying to find out what the could is. What is the acre feed of could take out more? How much more could we take out if there was an emergency year or something like that?

2135
02:30:19,900 --> 02:30:26,380
I don't know that we could put a firm number on that. Again, it's tied to how much you could actually pump from your wells as well.

2136
02:30:26,380 --> 02:30:31,540
So what's the percentage that is safe to take out? I guess maybe that would help me. I can just do some math

2137
02:30:31,540 --> 02:30:36,820
Is there like a percentage that was used to calculate the 9,000 square acre square feet?

2138
02:30:37,780 --> 02:30:41,580
You know, I don't know that there's a simple answer to that. No, okay. All right. I don't want to I'm just

2139
02:30:42,240 --> 02:30:46,660
You know, but a groundwater sustainability agency will be working with our neighbors

2140
02:30:47,820 --> 02:30:50,160
farmers cities and everybody will be

2141
02:30:51,120 --> 02:30:56,120
Doing the same things so we want to make sure that we keep that safe level somewhere over there, too

2142
02:30:56,380 --> 02:31:04,280
And now 1,000 acre feet is that safe yield point.

2143
02:31:05,280 --> 02:31:05,560
Okay.

2144
02:31:06,620 --> 02:31:06,940
Okay.

2145
02:31:07,120 --> 02:31:23,340
So basically where you're talking about is based on this, with all of the changes at full build out, there's really a concern that we need to identify more water sources or storage sources or recharge sources.

2146
02:31:23,480 --> 02:31:23,660
Yes.

2147
02:31:23,920 --> 02:31:25,940
Is that what, so, okay.

2148
02:31:25,940 --> 02:31:26,540
Okay.

2149
02:31:26,540 --> 02:31:33,360
During a drought period, yes, and that recycle water seems to be the easiest one to tackle.

2150
02:31:34,000 --> 02:31:38,800
But as I said before, at build out, the wastewater treatment plan is going to be at 21MGD.

2151
02:31:38,980 --> 02:31:42,560
So there's going to be quite a bit excess and that kind of stuff as well.

2152
02:31:42,620 --> 02:31:47,860
So that's why we're looking at that, to say, okay, this might be the easy solution

2153
02:31:47,860 --> 02:31:48,400
for us.

2154
02:31:48,780 --> 02:31:49,120
Okay.

2155
02:31:49,520 --> 02:31:54,200
And then my final question would be when it comes to the amount of purple pipe we've

2156
02:31:54,200 --> 02:32:00,640
been putting into all the different places. When we reach full capacity as far as like

2157
02:32:00,640 --> 02:32:07,560
actually implementing as much purple pipe as you have planned, does that give more leeway

2158
02:32:07,560 --> 02:32:13,900
in the system? Does that give us more capacity or have you already calculated that in these

2159
02:32:13,900 --> 02:32:17,140
projections that you've presented to us? We already have.

2160
02:32:17,140 --> 02:32:23,380
You have this complete every so everything even so when you do filled build out full build out includes full build out of purple

2161
02:32:23,380 --> 02:32:31,820
Pipe yes, okay, and for the record. I do not support turning the effluent water into drinking water

2162
02:32:32,340 --> 02:32:33,060
I know mr.

2163
02:32:33,140 --> 02:32:36,220
Mr. Sharma said hey, it's probably safer to drink than

2164
02:32:36,940 --> 02:32:42,260
Some of the other water, but it's not the same molecules. It's totally different molecules, but I don't believe it

2165
02:32:42,260 --> 02:32:45,780
But thank you very much. I appreciate your responses. Have you tried it?

2166
02:32:45,780 --> 02:32:48,380
No, but cool offer to drink some.

2167
02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:50,880
You may like it, who knows?

2168
02:32:51,320 --> 02:32:52,020
That's my arrow.

2169
02:32:52,260 --> 02:32:53,240
So I just had a quick question.

2170
02:32:53,340 --> 02:32:55,100
I wanted to point your attention to the same chart,

2171
02:32:55,260 --> 02:32:57,480
the projected future water supply and demand chart.

2172
02:32:58,420 --> 02:33:01,920
So I see the existing supply in a normal year,

2173
02:33:02,440 --> 02:33:06,140
looks like an approximately 26,000 acre feet.

2174
02:33:06,740 --> 02:33:09,360
The 2018 demand is approximately 16,

2175
02:33:10,080 --> 02:33:14,140
so that difference looks like approximately 10,000 acre feet per year.

2176
02:33:14,140 --> 02:33:19,720
So in any given year for a normal year, what are we doing to maintain that water?

2177
02:33:20,020 --> 02:33:21,920
Are we storing it? Is it going to aquifer?

2178
02:33:22,240 --> 02:33:26,640
Is that going to groundwater for that approximate 10,000 in a normal year?

2179
02:33:27,080 --> 02:33:28,440
What's happening with our water there?

2180
02:33:29,360 --> 02:33:33,040
Yeah, you know, what's happening is we are buying these water from different sources.

2181
02:33:33,200 --> 02:33:38,500
For example, we buy it from Bureau of Acclamation, and we buy in accordance with our needs.

2182
02:33:39,020 --> 02:33:41,260
So we will be paying for that one.

2183
02:33:41,260 --> 02:33:48,700
So, same way we buy water from SSJID, and if our needs are less, we don't buy all the water from them.

2184
02:33:49,080 --> 02:33:54,140
So, when we talk about existing supply, it's not local. We purchase what we need in that particular given year.

2185
02:33:54,440 --> 02:33:59,680
Yes. But it does have a permanent supply, which is our own supply for wells, for example, that is already there.

2186
02:34:00,140 --> 02:34:02,180
Okay. So, currently we're not doing anything?

2187
02:34:02,420 --> 02:34:02,960
We are not, yeah.

2188
02:34:03,260 --> 02:34:04,240
Okay. Thank you.

2189
02:34:04,660 --> 02:34:04,780
Sure.

2190
02:34:05,940 --> 02:34:10,400
Cool. So, we have three water supplies, correct?

2191
02:34:12,520 --> 02:34:16,820
So we have CVP, SJID, and groundwater.

2192
02:34:18,100 --> 02:34:22,360
What does cities like, I mean, I know there's some cities have one water supply,

2193
02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:24,520
and what does cities like Stockton, how many do they have?

2194
02:34:26,160 --> 02:34:27,060
Do you have any idea?

2195
02:34:27,140 --> 02:34:28,580
Or a large city, I'm just curious.

2196
02:34:29,540 --> 02:34:33,820
Stockton has a, they've been primarily groundwater for many, many years,

2197
02:34:34,240 --> 02:34:38,360
but they added a surface water supply about five years ago.

2198
02:34:38,540 --> 02:34:39,140
So they have two?

2199
02:34:39,360 --> 02:34:41,220
They have, yeah, they have two now.

2200
02:34:41,220 --> 02:34:46,520
Shouldn't cities like that worry more than us, right?

2201
02:34:46,740 --> 02:34:50,620
I mean, I know it's gloom and doom, but I mean,

2202
02:34:50,820 --> 02:34:55,160
you look at what we have, three, I know a lot of cities don't even.

2203
02:34:55,420 --> 02:34:57,840
I mean, they would love to have what we have,

2204
02:34:58,060 --> 02:35:02,120
and that just goes kudos to our staff

2205
02:35:02,120 --> 02:35:05,280
over and our council over the years making sure that's a priority.

2206
02:35:06,140 --> 02:35:10,060
And when we do have wet years and we do use our groundwater,

2207
02:35:10,060 --> 02:35:13,500
We do replenish it. One of the last time we had a dip into our ground water.

2208
02:35:13,880 --> 02:35:14,140
The

2209
02:35:18,330 --> 02:35:20,150
ground water? Did you say?

2210
02:35:21,070 --> 02:35:24,830
Yes, actually what we do is...

2211
02:35:24,830 --> 02:35:31,110
I don't care what's done. I'm just asking when it was the last time.

2212
02:35:32,310 --> 02:35:33,330
I would say probably

2213
02:35:35,790 --> 02:35:38,210
seven or eight years ago when we shut down our

2214
02:35:38,210 --> 02:35:42,290
water treatment plant and that time either we get water from

2215
02:35:42,290 --> 02:35:47,030
message ID or ground wells. How long do we do that for? I mean what I'm trying to get at

2216
02:35:47,030 --> 02:35:51,090
is just to assure the public, even if our two waters applied for somehow against the mesh,

2217
02:35:51,150 --> 02:35:57,630
we have all this excess ground water that can supply the city for.

2218
02:35:58,250 --> 02:36:03,310
We have been injecting water in our ASR well. Right, but what I'm asking is, how much

2219
02:36:03,310 --> 02:36:08,970
ground water have we ever used at one time? Let's try this. How many wells do we have?

2220
02:36:08,970 --> 02:36:10,250
We have nine wells.

2221
02:36:10,590 --> 02:36:16,830
Out of those nine wells, how many did we diminish, you know, for a year or something because we

2222
02:36:16,830 --> 02:36:18,010
didn't have excess water?

2223
02:36:18,710 --> 02:36:19,250
What do you say?

2224
02:36:19,430 --> 02:36:20,330
Did we ever do that?

2225
02:36:21,350 --> 02:36:23,650
We have used up to six or seven wells, yes.

2226
02:36:23,910 --> 02:36:25,270
And at one time.

2227
02:36:25,470 --> 02:36:25,930
One time, yes.

2228
02:36:25,930 --> 02:36:26,370
At one year.

2229
02:36:26,550 --> 02:36:27,550
And they're all replenished now.

2230
02:36:27,750 --> 02:36:27,770
Yes.

2231
02:36:27,970 --> 02:36:31,010
So we have a, I always think that as our emergency water.

2232
02:36:31,090 --> 02:36:31,270
Yes.

2233
02:36:31,610 --> 02:36:31,810
Yes.

2234
02:36:32,070 --> 02:36:37,730
Whatever happened to, you know, it's kind of frustrating.

2235
02:36:37,730 --> 02:36:42,970
and you know you I sit up here and I look at this and I try to hold my

2236
02:36:42,970 --> 02:36:47,830
composure and you know it's frustrating in the sense that here you have a city

2237
02:36:47,830 --> 02:36:53,590
like Tracy who has planned for the future, planned for a growth and you know

2238
02:36:53,590 --> 02:36:57,970
have the three different water supply and and then you look throughout the

2239
02:36:57,970 --> 02:37:03,130
state and how much this state of California has grown you know hundreds

2240
02:37:03,130 --> 02:37:06,670
and hundreds of thousands of people compare or millions of people whatever it

2241
02:37:06,670 --> 02:37:13,910
may be compared to 20 years ago and our water storage is the same or close to the same.

2242
02:37:14,370 --> 02:37:19,030
Whatever happened in like 2014, I believe we had a proposition for water storage.

2243
02:37:19,470 --> 02:37:25,830
Is there any water storage in the works that would assist cities or central valleys or

2244
02:37:25,830 --> 02:37:30,970
whatever it may be to correct this problem of water shortages?

2245
02:37:31,870 --> 02:37:33,290
Do you know any, because I don't.

2246
02:37:34,130 --> 02:37:35,350
Do you know any?

2247
02:37:35,350 --> 02:37:40,710
I'm just asking because maybe I don't I'm wrong, but we haven't went the last time we had a

2248
02:37:41,390 --> 02:37:43,550
Like a reservoir built. What year was that?

2249
02:37:45,730 --> 02:37:50,490
Yeah, it just it just goes to show you that this is a frustrating part, you know

2250
02:37:50,490 --> 02:37:58,410
This year last year we have trillions trillions of gallons of water, you know fresh water rain snow

2251
02:37:58,410 --> 02:38:04,530
And it's just being sent right down to the ocean and that water is not being used for

2252
02:38:05,350 --> 02:38:12,070
what I believe in 2014, the people of California wanted more storage and we still haven't had

2253
02:38:12,070 --> 02:38:17,610
that storage. So some of the problems that cities are seeing, you know, could be alleviated

2254
02:38:18,190 --> 02:38:24,310
if the state of California would do what it needs to be done is to put more water storage

2255
02:38:24,310 --> 02:38:30,090
out there. I mean, you know, you talk about, and I mentioned, you know, down south as

2256
02:38:30,090 --> 02:38:33,830
a joke, but, you know, we had the twin tunnels and now that's gone. Now they're talking

2257
02:38:33,830 --> 02:38:40,230
about a tunnel, take our water, the delta, down south, which could be alleviated if those

2258
02:38:40,230 --> 02:38:45,590
people up in Sacramento would do what they should be doing is taking care of the residents

2259
02:38:45,590 --> 02:38:50,050
of California and build more water storage. So to me, I know it's kind of sitting on a

2260
02:38:50,050 --> 02:38:55,130
high horse, but it's just frustrating not as the mayor or somebody sitting here, but

2261
02:38:55,130 --> 02:39:00,810
just as a resident of this state that we haven't acted in so long. And here we are

2262
02:39:00,810 --> 02:39:04,630
trying to deal with a problem that could be alleviated if we had more

2263
02:39:05,690 --> 02:39:09,350
storage to catch all that rainwater. But with that being said,

2264
02:39:10,470 --> 02:39:15,270
this is just for the update on the city's wastewater master plan.

2265
02:39:15,610 --> 02:39:19,310
So we're receiving that. And if council doesn't have anything

2266
02:39:19,310 --> 02:39:21,510
further, we're going to move on. Does anybody need a break?

2267
02:39:21,910 --> 02:39:23,910
Like a restroom break or anything before we move on?

2268
02:39:26,230 --> 02:39:28,630
I say good. All right. We'll move on to item 3F.

2269
02:39:28,630 --> 02:39:34,970
staff provide direction to staff regarding negotiating an exclusive negotiating rights

2270
02:39:34,970 --> 02:39:41,770
agreement, ENRA, with private public infrastructure group, LLC, PPIG, regarding the completion

2271
02:39:41,770 --> 02:39:46,990
of a feasibility study to determine the potential monetization of the city's future recycle

2272
02:39:46,990 --> 02:39:47,690
water supply.

2273
02:39:48,510 --> 02:39:49,610
Staff can report, please.

2274
02:39:50,130 --> 02:39:50,770
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

2275
02:39:50,910 --> 02:39:56,010
Members of Council and Dermalek, Assistant City Manager, so this item is a request

2276
02:39:56,010 --> 02:40:02,310
to do an exclusive negotiating rights with PPIG for a feasibility study to

2277
02:40:02,310 --> 02:40:06,410
determine if there's any monetization potential for the city's excess

2278
02:40:06,410 --> 02:40:11,530
recycled water in the future. This item is before you because our recently

2279
02:40:11,530 --> 02:40:17,190
adopted council procedures and preparation policies. This item was

2280
02:40:17,190 --> 02:40:22,410
sponsored by councilmember Ransom and you the mayor to have this item before

2281
02:40:22,410 --> 02:40:24,830
for us for a kind of a two-step process.

2282
02:40:25,290 --> 02:40:28,610
And the first step is, once it's sponsored by council,

2283
02:40:29,130 --> 02:40:32,490
we bring the item back to gauge whether or not

2284
02:40:32,490 --> 02:40:36,050
you want staff to pursue, do some more research,

2285
02:40:36,230 --> 02:40:37,630
work on and that kind of thing.

2286
02:40:37,690 --> 02:40:39,190
So that's the first step and that's what we're doing

2287
02:40:39,190 --> 02:40:39,590
tonight.

2288
02:40:40,150 --> 02:40:43,690
The second part of that step is coming back

2289
02:40:43,690 --> 02:40:44,770
with the action item.

2290
02:40:44,910 --> 02:40:47,410
In this case, it would be whether council directs us

2291
02:40:47,410 --> 02:40:51,310
to move forward with the details of an ENRA with them,

2292
02:40:51,310 --> 02:40:54,610
we can come back with some of that details that would come back to you for discussion

2293
02:40:54,610 --> 02:40:59,010
about whether that's what you envisioned or if you have any parameters and that kind of

2294
02:40:59,010 --> 02:40:59,230
stuff.

2295
02:40:59,730 --> 02:41:04,570
So that's kind of why we're here and kind of the steps of the process.

2296
02:41:05,790 --> 02:41:11,630
I should also say that it's been that PBIG has had on and off discussions with the

2297
02:41:11,630 --> 02:41:13,810
city for quite some time.

2298
02:41:14,410 --> 02:41:19,190
What started out, I believe, is a concept to assist the city in disposal of unused

2299
02:41:19,190 --> 02:41:24,250
nuisance recycled water has kind of evolved, I think, over a little bit into these discussions

2300
02:41:24,250 --> 02:41:32,190
that I've had with PPIG staff about this feasibility study. They've indicated to me that they don't

2301
02:41:32,190 --> 02:41:36,750
know if this is going to work or not, but they wanted to look at their own feasibility.

2302
02:41:37,130 --> 02:41:42,810
As I stated before in the other agenda item, there's 21 MGD at the treatment plant that

2303
02:41:42,810 --> 02:41:48,870
will be expanded over the build out, will there be excess likely? Will there be phasing

2304
02:41:48,870 --> 02:41:54,550
and details very much likely as well? So there's a lot of details that we would need to work

2305
02:41:54,550 --> 02:42:00,530
out. So as we learned from the master plan presentation previously, securing that future

2306
02:42:01,010 --> 02:42:06,390
reliable water supply is a top priority for the city. The city is, like I said, fortunate

2307
02:42:06,390 --> 02:42:11,490
to have multiple sources, but that we need to protect those sources. In my discussions

2308
02:42:11,490 --> 02:42:18,490
with PBIG staff, they have indicated that their intent is to complete the feasibility study or due diligence.

2309
02:42:19,410 --> 02:42:27,570
They've stated to me that there's no preconceived idea or expectation that ultimately they'll ever have an agreement with the city

2310
02:42:27,570 --> 02:42:31,150
to actually purchase the recycled water, but that's the purpose of the study.

2311
02:42:32,250 --> 02:42:36,310
They've indicated that they do not want to do anything that would interfere with the city or impact

2312
02:42:36,310 --> 02:42:42,270
or the city securing state approval of the recycled water, as mentioned in the last item.

2313
02:42:43,650 --> 02:42:49,430
Excuse me. They've indicated that they understand that council, if council wishes to move forward,

2314
02:42:49,710 --> 02:42:56,110
that they would then work with staff that coordinate communication with the state regarding recycled water.

2315
02:42:58,150 --> 02:43:04,930
Their staff, PBIG, has indicated that they would cover staff's costs with regard to the feasibility and city's peer review.

2316
02:43:05,630 --> 02:43:17,610
And that they've acknowledged that the city will be developing policies as I heard for the use and potential sale of this future recycled water concurrent with us securing the city, securing those state approvals.

2317
02:43:18,310 --> 02:43:29,490
And that they wish to explore things like even financing options that could advance the city's recycled water infrastructure understanding that the city may also look at some financial options.

2318
02:43:29,490 --> 02:43:34,270
And so I guess it's what I've heard from them is that there's a lot of unknowns at this point,

2319
02:43:34,510 --> 02:43:39,570
excuse me, at this point and that they are looking to do this feasibility to answer some of those concerns.

2320
02:43:41,310 --> 02:43:45,770
I'd also like to mention that the city received two e-mails.

2321
02:43:46,130 --> 02:43:54,850
One was from Irrigation District, BBID, that they are also interested in purchasing if there is excess recycled water purchasing that,

2322
02:43:54,850 --> 02:43:58,870
as well as an email, and I think you all have it as well,

2323
02:43:58,970 --> 02:44:01,890
from an attorney representing Mr. Sandu,

2324
02:44:02,550 --> 02:44:04,450
who is in opposition of this request.

2325
02:44:05,350 --> 02:44:05,830
So,

2326
02:44:10,900 --> 02:44:13,080
should Council wish to proceed with the second step

2327
02:44:13,080 --> 02:44:16,920
in this process, as I mentioned, staff would recommend working

2328
02:44:16,920 --> 02:44:20,200
with these statements that I've made in working with PBIG

2329
02:44:20,200 --> 02:44:23,200
that they've said to us to bring back some of that,

2330
02:44:23,580 --> 02:44:25,980
flush that out as part of the ENRI if the will

2331
02:44:25,980 --> 02:44:27,840
of the Council is to move to that next step.

2332
02:44:28,300 --> 02:44:33,580
staff request council direction regarding this request, and I'd be happy to answer any questions that you might have.

2333
02:44:35,410 --> 02:44:36,550
Thank you, Mr. Malick.

2334
02:44:37,370 --> 02:44:38,150
Let's see here.

2335
02:44:39,290 --> 02:44:41,170
All right, for the time we're going to open up for the public comment.

2336
02:44:41,310 --> 02:44:43,270
Anybody from the public put your address council on this item?

2337
02:44:52,260 --> 02:44:54,340
Robert Tanner, 1371, Russia Street.

2338
02:44:55,000 --> 02:44:59,880
Towards the end of this agenda item, there's a paragraph that a

2339
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:08,720
The former Tracy Worker is acting as a consultant with the PPIG, and it was requested that possibly

2340
02:45:08,720 --> 02:45:16,920
the city as a caution should obtain a formal advice letter from the FPPC on whether the

2341
02:45:16,920 --> 02:45:23,560
state conflict of interest laws and regulations prohibit the city from contracting with PPIG

2342
02:45:23,560 --> 02:45:26,520
after the expiration of the ENR-A.

2343
02:45:27,220 --> 02:45:31,840
I would suggest that this request of the FPPC be done first

2344
02:45:31,840 --> 02:45:37,020
before an ENR-A is ever attempted to be entered into.

2345
02:45:37,580 --> 02:45:37,940
Thank you.

2346
02:45:38,380 --> 02:45:39,160
Thank you, Mr. Tannen.

2347
02:45:40,380 --> 02:45:40,640
You're welcome.

2348
02:45:44,050 --> 02:45:46,030
My extend to Tracy, California.

2349
02:45:48,360 --> 02:45:51,700
It costs about $1,000 to set up a company like they did.

2350
02:45:52,500 --> 02:45:54,980
I can set up a thousand of them in one day.

2351
02:45:55,720 --> 02:46:02,900
Del Porto Water District, who was here, tried to be on the table to get the same thing.

2352
02:46:04,140 --> 02:46:05,340
They're already successful.

2353
02:46:05,880 --> 02:46:11,240
They've done already over 80 million, 80 to 100 million dollars they spend, and they're

2354
02:46:11,240 --> 02:46:13,940
successful getting the water for 20 mile pipeline.

2355
02:46:15,020 --> 02:46:17,360
They're dumping into the canal right now.

2356
02:46:17,360 --> 02:46:27,870
now. So why is this company whose experience is only, they know the council members? That's

2357
02:46:27,870 --> 02:46:33,630
the only experience they have in the water. There's local water district who's supplying

2358
02:46:33,630 --> 02:46:40,610
water to every farm here or to the companies. Why are they not given the same choice?

2359
02:46:41,230 --> 02:46:47,530
What is so special about this person that we cannot give them exclusive?

2360
02:46:48,530 --> 02:46:54,010
My dad said when somebody says exclusive, basically that means corruption.

2361
02:46:56,580 --> 02:47:02,340
And anyone asking for exclusive is a corrupt person, and anyone boards on that is a corrupt person.

2362
02:47:04,820 --> 02:47:09,540
I am here today. I will pay the whole amount of this study.

2363
02:47:09,540 --> 02:47:15,660
Do not take water from our kids, our parents, or anyone in this town.

2364
02:47:16,320 --> 02:47:22,040
Whatever the study they're going to do, I will pay for it and I'm not asking a dime back

2365
02:47:22,040 --> 02:47:28,320
or single drop of water back for the money I will give, because I think it's ridiculous

2366
02:47:29,820 --> 02:47:35,360
what's being done when we already know that we can be shortage of water and even asking

2367
02:47:35,360 --> 02:47:41,160
exclusive. If that's the idea that the city wants to do, why not give it to 10 companies

2368
02:47:41,160 --> 02:47:48,260
and let them come back with the best offer on their water if it is ever available. This

2369
02:47:48,260 --> 02:47:55,900
should, the city is in a business to protect people and any water available should be sold

2370
02:47:55,900 --> 02:48:04,440
if it is actually sold to the highest bidder, not a friend. So stop this corruption and

2371
02:48:04,440 --> 02:48:07,440
a corrupt system. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Sandio.

2372
02:48:09,570 --> 02:48:09,970
Who else?

2373
02:48:15,010 --> 02:48:17,850
Jim Miller, general manager of PPIG.

2374
02:48:19,190 --> 02:48:24,470
The staff report was misleading. We are not looking to purchase any recycled water from the city.

2375
02:48:25,410 --> 02:48:29,670
What we're trying to do is to see whether or not the water that's not going to be used,

2376
02:48:29,770 --> 02:48:33,690
if it can be monetized to create a new revenue stream for the city.

2377
02:48:35,170 --> 02:48:37,790
So to simplify everything.

2378
02:48:38,570 --> 02:48:45,290
Under the numbers that were just shown, existing use is around 16,000 acre-feet a year.

2379
02:48:46,230 --> 02:48:48,630
Build-outs around 39,000 acre-feet.

2380
02:48:48,910 --> 02:48:50,250
So you're less than halfway.

2381
02:48:51,150 --> 02:48:58,290
If you're at 90,000 people for 16,000, you can be up over 200,000 people to get to 39,000 acre-feet.

2382
02:48:59,090 --> 02:49:00,830
That means you've got more than double.

2383
02:49:01,690 --> 02:49:05,550
With Measure A in place, you can only put in 600 homes a year.

2384
02:49:05,950 --> 02:49:07,430
It's about 2,000 people a year.

2385
02:49:08,510 --> 02:49:13,930
You've got over 110,000 extra people coming in to hit the build-out numbers that they just showed you.

2386
02:49:14,550 --> 02:49:16,070
That's a 50-year build-out period.

2387
02:49:16,250 --> 02:49:17,070
Andrew said 30.

2388
02:49:17,750 --> 02:49:22,070
Either way, you look at it as a long time where the water's not going to be in use

2389
02:49:22,550 --> 02:49:25,290
and there's potential for you to get revenue from that.

2390
02:49:25,770 --> 02:49:33,030
So the idea behind the project is to search whether or not it's conceivable to monetize that stream for the city,

2391
02:49:33,270 --> 02:49:39,370
create a revenue stream for the city, that water's not being used right now, and there's nothing being done with it.

2392
02:49:39,570 --> 02:49:45,150
So there's clarification on that. We look forward to doing this. We're very excited about it.

2393
02:49:45,170 --> 02:49:48,550
We've been doing it for three years trying to bring this to council.

2394
02:49:49,170 --> 02:49:51,350
Thank you, Mr. Miller. Anyone else?

2395
02:49:56,440 --> 02:50:00,380
No one. We're being back to council for discussion.

2396
02:50:01,640 --> 02:50:02,540
Mary Ola.

2397
02:50:03,160 --> 02:50:05,380
So I had a question for Ms. Ramirez.

2398
02:50:05,800 --> 02:50:16,540
So related to this ENRA, what would be the legal distinctions between giving an ERA versus something like an MOU, or would there be any?

2399
02:50:18,060 --> 02:50:25,160
Well, I think an E&RA is a type of MOU in which we, the premise of it is that we are

2400
02:50:25,160 --> 02:50:31,280
in the process of exploring a relationship and exclusively negotiating with this entity.

2401
02:50:31,900 --> 02:50:37,040
It's a type of MOU and our practice has been in the city of Tracy that when we are exploring

2402
02:50:37,600 --> 02:50:46,060
these types of projects or ventures with a private party, we end up entering into

2403
02:50:46,060 --> 02:50:53,840
these types of agreements. Entering to an ENRA would restrict the city from speaking to someone

2404
02:50:53,840 --> 02:50:59,020
else in the same matter, right? It's an exclusive negotiating agreement. Typically we set a term

2405
02:50:59,700 --> 02:51:04,920
and we set parameters about the scope of work and the cost associated with doing that work.

2406
02:51:06,940 --> 02:51:12,780
So as I read what's currently on the agenda, so I get that, but there's a huge difference

2407
02:51:12,780 --> 02:51:17,580
between assessing the feasibility of something versus putting something in the ground.

2408
02:51:18,400 --> 02:51:24,360
So as the agenda is currently written, it seems like the scope of this question tonight

2409
02:51:24,360 --> 02:51:27,320
is limited to a feasibility study.

2410
02:51:27,720 --> 02:51:28,280
Is that correct?

2411
02:51:28,700 --> 02:51:33,100
So when we're talking about negotiations, are you only negotiating or negotiating

2412
02:51:33,100 --> 02:51:38,120
currently a feasibility study or actually putting something on the ground?

2413
02:51:38,660 --> 02:51:45,500
It would be primarily a feasibility study with the intent and the understanding of potentially

2414
02:51:45,500 --> 02:51:49,120
identifying a proposal to put something into the ground, right?

2415
02:51:49,420 --> 02:51:51,440
This is like the preliminary step.

2416
02:51:52,060 --> 02:51:52,220
Sure.

2417
02:51:52,580 --> 02:51:57,060
But because we have, if we say we were to agree to this feasibility study, I haven't

2418
02:51:57,060 --> 02:52:04,740
seen any contract yet, there's no commitment to PPIG to commit them to any project, am

2419
02:52:04,740 --> 02:52:05,420
I correct on that?

2420
02:52:05,640 --> 02:52:05,880
Correct.

2421
02:52:06,260 --> 02:52:06,380
Correct.

2422
02:52:06,380 --> 02:52:07,000
Okay.

2423
02:52:10,290 --> 02:52:10,650
So,

2424
02:52:13,900 --> 02:52:17,660
okay, I'll probably have some questions in a second, but that's all I have for now. Thank you.

2425
02:52:21,190 --> 02:52:21,470
Pro Tem.

2426
02:52:23,800 --> 02:52:31,260
Okay. I'm sorry, my notes jumped to another area. So, looking at this, as you were talking about the ENA,

2427
02:52:31,400 --> 02:52:38,220
it's just exclusively for a period of time. What is the period of time I was trying to scan through here?

2428
02:52:39,500 --> 02:52:45,520
So I don't know if staff from PBIG have done this in other jurisdictions.

2429
02:52:46,300 --> 02:52:48,900
I think we were thinking it might be like six months or otherwise,

2430
02:52:49,020 --> 02:52:51,940
but maybe you can fill in to see if there's what you might need.

2431
02:52:52,520 --> 02:52:56,480
The initial draft of the document that we wrote with you guys two years ago

2432
02:52:56,480 --> 02:53:00,060
suggested a one-year period with a potential one-year extension.

2433
02:53:02,040 --> 02:53:03,800
That seems reasonable to take.

2434
02:53:04,280 --> 02:53:05,480
We're going to go talk to them.

2435
02:53:05,480 --> 02:53:08,940
So basically, we're looking for permission from the city to go investigate, so we go

2436
02:53:08,940 --> 02:53:14,400
talk to all the agencies, find out what is needed to be able to pull this off, what infrastructures

2437
02:53:14,400 --> 02:53:16,420
need to be put in, does that pencil out?

2438
02:53:17,940 --> 02:53:20,100
Is there enough water available to pull it off?

2439
02:53:20,780 --> 02:53:23,500
So it's trying to figure that all out and then come back to you with a proposal

2440
02:53:23,500 --> 02:53:25,160
and say, okay, here we think we have something.

2441
02:53:25,640 --> 02:53:28,500
And here's what it is and here's how it would work.

2442
02:53:29,620 --> 02:53:34,360
And it would probably take us from the time we get the agreement to the time that

2443
02:53:34,360 --> 02:53:44,320
come back to you would be within a year. Okay. Thank you for that. So the how we got here

2444
02:53:44,320 --> 02:53:50,380
from a couple years ago is that this group actually approached I guess many of us

2445
02:53:50,380 --> 02:53:54,360
council, not all the council members at that particular time, and what was

2446
02:53:54,360 --> 02:54:00,520
determined here from the dais to our former staff that said there was that

2447
02:54:00,520 --> 02:54:05,140
But they were going to look into options, different options, whether the city could do

2448
02:54:05,140 --> 02:54:08,360
something with recycled water, hence probably the last presentation.

2449
02:54:09,040 --> 02:54:13,880
But other than that was, you know, whether or not, you know, this group would do something

2450
02:54:13,880 --> 02:54:16,280
and whether there were others that were interested.

2451
02:54:16,800 --> 02:54:21,100
But since that time, it kind of fell through the cracks as our city was going through

2452
02:54:21,100 --> 02:54:22,080
a number of changes.

2453
02:54:23,060 --> 02:54:28,180
However, at this point, since this item has been placed on the agenda in the last

2454
02:54:28,180 --> 02:54:34,820
to dare to, then other entities have approaches such as even letters and calls and emails regarding

2455
02:54:34,820 --> 02:54:36,000
their interest.

2456
02:54:36,660 --> 02:54:41,220
But to date, as far as a council member being approached, I've only been approached by this

2457
02:54:41,220 --> 02:54:45,260
group and hence the conversation because we have given prior direction to actually

2458
02:54:45,260 --> 02:54:46,540
speak with them as an option.

2459
02:54:47,080 --> 02:54:54,820
So I'm interested in looking into things that will help further monetize and have

2460
02:54:54,820 --> 02:54:59,100
streams of income for our city, which is the whole point of being responsible for things

2461
02:54:59,100 --> 02:55:09,780
that are unused. So I think this is, it may be seen exclusive and excluding others, but

2462
02:55:09,780 --> 02:55:15,840
these are, this is what's been approached and has been asked us over time. And so, you

2463
02:55:15,840 --> 02:55:20,760
know, if others want to jump on the bandwagon, that's another story. But this letter that

2464
02:55:20,760 --> 02:55:30,760
asked, will they, from the BBID and the SWSID, will they still be first in line for the city's

2465
02:55:30,760 --> 02:55:36,660
unused recycled water before it would be sold to PPG? So it's already been established that

2466
02:55:36,660 --> 02:55:42,140
it's not, they're not trying to buy water from us, but my question was, are they actually

2467
02:55:42,140 --> 02:55:47,640
first in line now with how whatever the setup is, or is this is an assumption?

2468
02:55:48,920 --> 02:55:52,720
So as, as Cool had mentioned, the only thing, let me back up.

2469
02:55:53,260 --> 02:56:00,180
The city does not currently have a policy of how to dispose of the excess recycled water.

2470
02:56:00,520 --> 02:56:05,820
Cool referred to an order of a change in and place of use earlier from the state.

2471
02:56:06,080 --> 02:56:07,360
I think it was March of this year.

2472
02:56:07,800 --> 02:56:12,260
In there it said the city will be able to use recycled water,

2473
02:56:12,420 --> 02:56:15,980
but it needs to stay within the sphere of influence.

2474
02:56:15,980 --> 02:56:20,060
And it should go, you know, to irrigation districts.

2475
02:56:20,260 --> 02:56:23,100
And I think it mentions a couple of even irrigation districts and stuff.

2476
02:56:23,520 --> 02:56:24,760
It doesn't set a priority.

2477
02:56:25,040 --> 02:56:29,500
It just says that that's what it should go, uses in the sphere of influence and that.

2478
02:56:29,700 --> 02:56:35,340
So that was what we said earlier about we know through this process that we're going to have to come back with you

2479
02:56:35,340 --> 02:56:37,780
to establish some of those priorities and that kind of thing.

2480
02:56:38,780 --> 02:56:39,220
Okay.

2481
02:56:39,520 --> 02:56:45,000
And given that there are other interests, I'm just curious as to, I know we're asking specifically for this.

2482
02:56:45,000 --> 02:56:56,160
And so for whatever the time period, whether it's a year for another renewable once this study has been looked at and maybe there's something that's not feasible from this feasibility study.

2483
02:56:57,080 --> 02:57:05,340
At that point, it could be opened up to other opportunities or the options or what are we looking at when it gets back to the feasibility?

2484
02:57:05,740 --> 02:57:09,280
Does it become exclusively between PPIG and the city?

2485
02:57:10,300 --> 02:57:17,000
So the study, my understanding in talking, the study is for the exclusive negotiating rights.

2486
02:57:17,400 --> 02:57:23,280
But that's really a parameter that we could put in there to say once the study is done or whatever else,

2487
02:57:23,520 --> 02:57:29,080
how does the council wish to proceed with either going out to, however they want to do it.

2488
02:57:29,180 --> 02:57:35,080
How do you want to proceed from there? It could be a separate agreement study or process.

2489
02:57:35,080 --> 02:57:40,180
I just wanted to make sure what the understanding was so that we're clear when it comes back

2490
02:57:40,180 --> 02:57:40,560
to us.

2491
02:57:40,640 --> 02:57:44,840
If it's open like that, open-ended, if it's more closed until after a certain time period.

2492
02:57:45,860 --> 02:57:48,360
If you give us parameters, that's kind of what I mentioned.

2493
02:57:49,820 --> 02:57:54,080
If Council wishes to take that next step with PPIG, those are some of the parameters

2494
02:57:54,080 --> 02:57:57,500
that we could put into this that would spell out that going forward.

2495
02:57:58,320 --> 02:57:58,640
Okay.

2496
02:57:59,040 --> 02:58:03,920
I'm not saying that I'm asking for that, but I just want to make sure what's clear,

2497
02:58:03,920 --> 02:58:07,720
what we're doing and as I said we're here because they've approached us several

2498
02:58:07,720 --> 02:58:11,620
times and this has fallen between the cracks over the years and to bring that

2499
02:58:11,620 --> 02:58:14,500
discussion back here although it was probably would have been a broader

2500
02:58:14,500 --> 02:58:20,740
discussion had it been brought back before but to to give authority to to

2501
02:58:20,740 --> 02:58:28,820
talk to each other I absolutely support that yes thank you so I just

2502
02:58:28,820 --> 02:58:36,500
want to kind of clarify and just reiterate for the public that the way this agenda item

2503
02:58:36,500 --> 02:58:43,680
is presented to us, there's nothing being given away. And there is nobody that's slated to

2504
02:58:43,680 --> 02:58:50,700
be first in line. This was brought to us a couple of years ago and we started the process

2505
02:58:50,700 --> 02:58:57,620
and then it got put to the side. And basically what it was presented to, I'll just talk

2506
02:58:57,620 --> 02:59:02,640
about myself. It was presented as we're looking for different resources. There are

2507
02:59:02,640 --> 02:59:07,660
other communities, Modesto and some other cities. I don't know all the intricate

2508
02:59:07,660 --> 02:59:11,500
details of how they put their process together, but there are other cities that

2509
02:59:11,500 --> 02:59:17,020
have made deals that are actually, they still have a secure water supply,

2510
02:59:17,520 --> 02:59:21,500
but they also, they don't waste any water. They can sell the water to

2511
02:59:21,500 --> 02:59:24,040
whether it be farms or other people in need.

2512
02:59:26,040 --> 02:59:31,960
So just looking at this, I want to be clear that so we receive

2513
02:59:31,960 --> 02:59:34,400
these letters, first of all, it's my understanding no one's

2514
02:59:34,400 --> 02:59:37,780
first in line, I would not vote on something that says we're

2515
02:59:37,780 --> 02:59:40,280
going to be doing a feasibility study that automatically puts

2516
02:59:40,280 --> 02:59:42,480
anything in line, so I'll start by saying that.

2517
02:59:42,900 --> 02:59:46,020
Also, with this feasibility study, will it give us an

2518
02:59:46,020 --> 02:59:50,700
opportunity to look at some things that are going on in

2519
02:59:50,700 --> 02:59:56,020
regards to water being monetized, the pros and the cons, a city version. Will this feasibility

2520
02:59:56,020 --> 02:59:59,900
study give us something to look into in regards to whether there is a city.

2521
03:00:09,320 --> 03:00:09,800
So, I mean,

2522
03:00:13,110 --> 03:00:17,090
so maybe I'll answer that in the sense of this is my understanding and talking

2523
03:00:17,090 --> 03:00:22,830
to PPIG is this is their feasibility study we would likely peer review. But if what I'm hearing

2524
03:00:22,830 --> 03:00:28,450
from councils you want that to be more robust. So should we do are will we do our own to like

2525
03:00:28,450 --> 03:00:34,050
make sure that if it's like, hey, the city needs to do a better job to protect the water

2526
03:00:34,050 --> 03:00:39,470
source. So, you know, will there be something if the direction of council is to go that

2527
03:00:39,470 --> 03:00:43,930
way? Then we can certainly do that. Okay. So what is the intent? Right. So right. Not

2528
03:00:43,930 --> 03:00:47,750
what is the intent? So right now they want to do a feasibility study. You plan to peer

2529
03:00:47,750 --> 03:00:54,230
review it. When this conversation first started happening a couple of years ago, I know

2530
03:00:54,230 --> 03:00:59,170
that one of the reasons why we wanted to look into an ENRA is because there was some,

2531
03:00:59,370 --> 03:01:06,870
I guess, proprietary information being divulged by the company that wants to do it.

2532
03:01:07,410 --> 03:01:13,870
So it was supposedly, or in my understanding, a way to protect their ability to kind of share

2533
03:01:13,870 --> 03:01:18,750
and give us all of that information and still protect their proprietary interests.

2534
03:01:18,750 --> 03:01:25,610
But at the same time we would be able to see full scope of how it would impact our city. Is that correct?

2535
03:01:25,870 --> 03:01:32,890
I mean that's one of the typical elements of an exclusive negotiating rights agreement where you you maintain some kind of confidentiality or proprietary

2536
03:01:34,590 --> 03:01:41,090
Information is protected right and typically as I said, it's exclusive. It's with one party and

2537
03:01:41,090 --> 03:01:47,510
And what upon direction from council to negotiate such an agreement, we would then come back

2538
03:01:47,510 --> 03:01:51,090
to council for council to actually approve that agreement and see the terms set out.

2539
03:01:51,410 --> 03:01:51,970
Okay.

2540
03:01:52,350 --> 03:01:54,170
And then there was this letter from Mr. Milhap.

2541
03:01:54,310 --> 03:01:55,390
I want to confirm.

2542
03:01:56,250 --> 03:02:04,490
So there's no intent to basically enter a contract tonight or this is not an intent

2543
03:02:04,490 --> 03:02:12,390
to enter a contract or circumvent the, basically, the purpose of use, you know, in regards to

2544
03:02:12,390 --> 03:02:16,390
how we're going to use water. And so I just want to be, because nothing has even been,

2545
03:02:16,590 --> 03:02:22,870
no contract's even been put in place, so I just want to make sure that these things

2546
03:02:22,870 --> 03:02:28,490
are addressed if this council does move forward in that direction, that these things are

2547
03:02:28,490 --> 03:02:33,070
addressed in there, that this doesn't give anyone, you know, first rights or whatever,

2548
03:02:33,070 --> 03:02:36,510
but that we're really looking to see if there's an opportunity and it's my

2549
03:02:36,510 --> 03:02:42,430
understanding in my discussion with with the I don't want to call them

2550
03:02:42,430 --> 03:02:48,870
developer with with them today that they don't even know for full scope of how

2551
03:02:48,870 --> 03:02:55,030
it's gonna be may not even work out for anybody so I just wanted to kind of

2552
03:02:55,030 --> 03:03:00,250
put that out there that I don't know this is not my area of expertise I do

2553
03:03:00,250 --> 03:03:02,490
to know some other cities have recently done it.

2554
03:03:02,610 --> 03:03:04,210
I don't know what that looks like long-term,

2555
03:03:04,350 --> 03:03:08,170
but I'm interested in knowing what the pros, cons are.

2556
03:03:08,690 --> 03:03:11,270
And as Mayor Pro Tem Young mentioned,

2557
03:03:11,830 --> 03:03:13,990
other people I got phone calls last night

2558
03:03:13,990 --> 03:03:16,990
and this morning are interested in doing this,

2559
03:03:17,030 --> 03:03:18,450
but we don't have any idea of what it,

2560
03:03:18,450 --> 03:03:19,650
I don't know what it looks like, period.

2561
03:03:20,030 --> 03:03:21,790
So I'll state that.

2562
03:03:21,950 --> 03:03:24,250
And then I do have a question in regards to,

2563
03:03:25,030 --> 03:03:28,830
there was a staff in, it says the attorney,

2564
03:03:31,590 --> 03:03:37,750
suggested, basically, you didn't suggest there was a conflict, but you pointed out that one

2565
03:03:37,750 --> 03:03:46,150
of the contractors has previously worked for the city. Do you already plan to do the FPPC

2566
03:03:46,150 --> 03:03:52,230
letter as part of this, or do you need permission or a request to do that, get that feedback

2567
03:03:52,230 --> 03:03:55,230
before you did that, if it were approved?

2568
03:03:56,190 --> 03:03:59,070
It's not necessarily that I'm looking for council direction.

2569
03:03:59,270 --> 03:04:03,130
I want to just inform council of that and be transparent about that.

2570
03:04:03,770 --> 03:04:08,570
So currently if we get direction to enter into this type of agreement

2571
03:04:08,570 --> 03:04:11,290
or negotiate an ENRA with the entity,

2572
03:04:11,990 --> 03:04:14,430
there doesn't seem to be a conflict of interest

2573
03:04:14,430 --> 03:04:18,210
because there's no financial interest or benefit out of the ENRA.

2574
03:04:19,550 --> 03:04:22,690
However, this is all about good faith negotiations

2575
03:04:22,690 --> 03:04:27,670
and we want to go into this, if Council directs us,

2576
03:04:27,870 --> 03:04:31,650
we'd want this partnership to be up and up,

2577
03:04:31,930 --> 03:04:33,350
and in order for us to know

2578
03:04:33,350 --> 03:04:35,150
whether we can even move forward with them,

2579
03:04:35,270 --> 03:04:38,290
this is one of the elements of that,

2580
03:04:38,330 --> 03:04:39,810
our kind of internal vetting process

2581
03:04:39,810 --> 03:04:41,290
of whether we could actually move forward

2582
03:04:41,290 --> 03:04:42,710
with any kind of project with them.

2583
03:04:42,930 --> 03:04:44,470
Okay, so if this were approved,

2584
03:04:44,650 --> 03:04:45,830
you would actually do that,

2585
03:04:45,890 --> 03:04:47,570
or would the Council need to make sure

2586
03:04:47,570 --> 03:04:49,730
that that was part of the recommendation?

2587
03:04:49,730 --> 03:04:51,230
I would advise to do that.

2588
03:04:51,230 --> 03:05:01,630
Okay. And let's see, pros and cons. And so my last question, Mr. Malik, you mentioned like a peer review would happen. What would that look like?

2589
03:05:04,400 --> 03:05:16,160
So, like some of the other studies that we do, whether it's technical or otherwise, when they're going to be relying on some of our, quite possibly Elizabeth Dreyer from West Coast and that kind of stuff and some of our information.

2590
03:05:16,160 --> 03:05:21,520
So we may have Elizabeth or other look at kind of some of their feasibility as it goes forward

2591
03:05:21,520 --> 03:05:24,640
just to peer review and make sure that all the data and everything else is consistent

2592
03:05:24,640 --> 03:05:27,120
with the information from the master plans and the like.

2593
03:05:28,800 --> 03:05:30,040
Okay, thank you.

2594
03:05:33,400 --> 03:05:34,380
That's my reverberates.

2595
03:05:34,660 --> 03:05:35,540
Thank you, Mayor.

2596
03:05:39,520 --> 03:05:43,260
So I'm going to add a little bit of my history on this.

2597
03:05:43,260 --> 03:05:52,200
In 2015, Del Porter Water came to me with, at that time, our city manager, Troy Brown.

2598
03:05:54,020 --> 03:06:02,780
And about, I want to say, 18 months ago, Del Porter Water came back again to me with, at

2599
03:06:02,780 --> 03:06:09,340
that time, city manager, Randy Bradley, to do the same thing that these folks are

2600
03:06:09,340 --> 03:06:11,120
trying to do today here.

2601
03:06:11,120 --> 03:06:17,780
The only difference that they did not ask for an exclusive ride of negotiation, they were

2602
03:06:17,780 --> 03:06:25,000
asking for the ability of having the opportunity to do the study in conjunction with the CDO

2603
03:06:25,000 --> 03:06:25,500
Tracy.

2604
03:06:26,700 --> 03:06:30,000
In concept, I'm not opposed to the idea.

2605
03:06:30,280 --> 03:06:37,280
I think the visibility study is a good thing to know where we are at and what our recycle

2606
03:06:37,280 --> 03:06:40,120
water will be, the calculation, the math, all that stuff.

2607
03:06:40,120 --> 03:06:47,700
I think it's good to know where we are at, and if we do have a surplus, we should invest

2608
03:06:47,700 --> 03:06:52,140
and see what monetarily can help the community in the city.

2609
03:06:53,260 --> 03:07:01,720
I am not comfortable with the exclusiveness of this, not having an open process.

2610
03:07:02,840 --> 03:07:07,820
For other people, too, they have demonstrated in the past being interested in this.

2611
03:07:07,820 --> 03:07:12,620
And again, every time that it rises up, we have those letters, we have those same people

2612
03:07:12,620 --> 03:07:15,180
saying, hey, I want to participate too.

2613
03:07:15,860 --> 03:07:19,360
So that is the part that doesn't feel right for me.

2614
03:07:20,460 --> 03:07:21,140
That's it.

2615
03:07:21,600 --> 03:07:30,760
In concept, I understand the process and I am four to find out what we are and what

2616
03:07:30,760 --> 03:07:33,420
could be and the potentials of it.

2617
03:07:33,420 --> 03:07:36,840
I'm just not comfortable with how we are going about it.

2618
03:07:38,900 --> 03:07:45,020
So and I'm glad to hear that this is just a feasibility.

2619
03:07:45,760 --> 03:07:53,200
It does not, and I want to make sure, it does not guarantee the CD to enter into a contract.

2620
03:07:53,300 --> 03:07:58,920
So if the group decides to spend all this money and time to do the feasibility study,

2621
03:07:58,920 --> 03:08:06,060
It doesn't give them priority over somebody else that looks like there's a lot of interest

2622
03:08:06,060 --> 03:08:08,140
in another water agencies.

2623
03:08:08,900 --> 03:08:11,640
And I understand that you're looking for direction on that.

2624
03:08:12,420 --> 03:08:13,400
That's not a giving.

2625
03:08:13,880 --> 03:08:18,240
We must make that clear for you to negotiate that.

2626
03:08:18,680 --> 03:08:23,480
And I don't think you have had that direction and you're looking for that.

2627
03:08:25,640 --> 03:08:32,660
So, if the direction is that, I'm okay with it, but if the direction is to give somebody

2628
03:08:32,660 --> 03:08:39,680
a one-up over other people who want to have the same opportunity, I'm not okay with that.

2629
03:08:41,280 --> 03:08:47,920
And I absolutely agree with the comment from the public, if we're moving forward to have

2630
03:08:47,920 --> 03:08:57,160
a financial benefit to somebody that participated in the grant or was an employee over here.

2631
03:08:57,540 --> 03:09:07,140
We must get clarification from the SPPC that we are not violating any of contracts or the

2632
03:09:07,140 --> 03:09:09,440
grants and how they were given to us.

2633
03:09:10,920 --> 03:09:22,160
But I do have a question on the item before we discuss the water supplies, the master

2634
03:09:22,160 --> 03:09:22,580
plan.

2635
03:09:22,980 --> 03:09:32,240
We would not identify then our supplies if we have a surplus or what our water needs

2636
03:09:32,240 --> 03:09:32,780
are?

2637
03:09:32,780 --> 03:09:44,340
You know the volume of recycled water available will be related to the wastewater treatment

2638
03:09:44,340 --> 03:09:45,220
plant capacity.

2639
03:09:46,660 --> 03:09:48,320
So they go hand in hand.

2640
03:09:49,980 --> 03:09:58,300
So right now our wastewater treatment plant capacity is 9 MGD even though some of areas

2641
03:09:58,300 --> 03:10:01,280
is 10.8 but it's 9 MGD is the governing capacity.

2642
03:10:01,280 --> 03:10:14,120
So we will have only what are available at this time will be about let's say about 8,000 acre feet, some losses and so forth.

2643
03:10:15,180 --> 03:10:27,060
So from 9MGD and out of 8,000 acre feet, we will plan to use it for legacy field in other areas when the time goes in and we complete the infrastructure.

2644
03:10:27,920 --> 03:10:30,340
But as the new developments are being approved,

2645
03:10:32,040 --> 03:10:34,940
other waters will be being used and if time

2646
03:10:34,940 --> 03:10:38,860
will come in, then we will be triggering additional

2647
03:10:40,220 --> 03:10:42,700
water, could be water exchange, could be others.

2648
03:10:43,440 --> 03:10:47,060
So at that time also, our

2649
03:10:47,060 --> 03:10:51,220
irrigation needs will be there, and if you look into those, again, that graph

2650
03:10:51,220 --> 03:10:55,160
over there in the middle one when we have a drought, we'll be needing almost about

2651
03:10:55,160 --> 03:10:57,820
if I'm correct I can look into right now.

2652
03:11:00,160 --> 03:11:02,760
So cool if I hear you correctly let me

2653
03:11:02,760 --> 03:11:09,960
translate in my in my mind you're saying that potentially we could use if we

2654
03:11:09,960 --> 03:11:14,580
invest and develop in recycle infrastructure we could be using all

2655
03:11:14,580 --> 03:11:20,200
of it. That is correct if we if we invest right yes with time. Okay so right

2656
03:11:20,200 --> 03:11:25,900
now we are only using in limited parks because of our infrastructures not up

2657
03:11:25,900 --> 03:11:33,400
to par. But if we invest in our infrastructure, what I'm hearing you say is we can potentially

2658
03:11:34,140 --> 03:11:43,800
use all the water. More and more. So because due to the lack of infrastructure, we thought

2659
03:11:43,800 --> 03:11:49,840
the most economical thing is to use only about 5,000 acre feet of water for irrigation

2660
03:11:49,840 --> 03:12:00,180
purposes and then the rest used for water transfer or water exchange and so that

2661
03:12:00,180 --> 03:12:06,760
one for example in a single dry year we'll be needing about 16 MDD of recycled

2662
03:12:06,760 --> 03:12:13,340
water. Right okay for a full build out but that's full build out. So at that

2663
03:12:13,340 --> 03:12:19,720
time we should be having about 16 MDD capacity at the treatment plant or some

2664
03:12:20,300 --> 03:12:21,440
close to that range.

2665
03:12:21,780 --> 03:12:21,960
Gotcha.

2666
03:12:22,640 --> 03:12:24,420
So the both go in hand in hand.

2667
03:12:24,620 --> 03:12:26,720
We have to have more capacity of the treatment plan.

2668
03:12:26,820 --> 03:12:27,800
Then we can have more water.

2669
03:12:28,260 --> 03:12:30,120
And then we have to find where we can use it.

2670
03:12:30,500 --> 03:12:33,180
On top of it, we'll be using for water exchange as well.

2671
03:12:33,420 --> 03:12:33,640
Gotcha.

2672
03:12:34,400 --> 03:12:35,540
So I have a question.

2673
03:12:35,560 --> 03:12:36,800
A little bit complicated, yes.

2674
03:12:37,340 --> 03:12:38,120
I get you.

2675
03:12:38,720 --> 03:12:40,940
So my next question is to the city manager.

2676
03:12:41,260 --> 03:12:46,180
City manager, knowing that I actually had the opportunity

2677
03:12:46,180 --> 03:12:53,920
to introduce delported water to two different city managers in the past, and I was not aware

2678
03:12:53,920 --> 03:13:01,040
of this item until one of our 101s was coming and was being sponsored by two council members

2679
03:13:01,040 --> 03:13:11,920
to be here for discussion. Why we're selecting one over having this as an open process and

2680
03:13:15,660 --> 03:13:22,900
I'm just curious about why we have the privilege of negotiating and giving exclusive rise to

2681
03:13:22,900 --> 03:13:24,900
one and not others.

2682
03:13:25,320 --> 03:13:31,740
Even today in the podium we had a gentleman they offered to pay for all the studies with

2683
03:13:31,740 --> 03:13:32,820
no ass back.

2684
03:13:33,800 --> 03:13:37,620
So why are we doing this in this manner?

2685
03:13:37,620 --> 03:13:43,600
So staff is responding to two council members' requests to bring this item forward.

2686
03:13:43,860 --> 03:13:48,460
This is, as you know, we've talked at Nauseum about that this was a prior issue that was brought forward.

2687
03:13:48,920 --> 03:13:52,300
And there was some expectations that this would come forward and it didn't.

2688
03:13:52,440 --> 03:13:55,000
So we're acknowledging the council members' requests.

2689
03:13:55,600 --> 03:13:59,520
As you know, staff is not making a recommendation but a seeking direction from the council.

2690
03:14:00,020 --> 03:14:01,820
There's a number of paths council can take.

2691
03:14:01,820 --> 03:14:07,920
I've heard conversations around issuing RFPs for proposals in order to create equity.

2692
03:14:08,500 --> 03:14:14,300
There's also, you know, exploration in the agreement which doesn't commit you to anything.

2693
03:14:14,920 --> 03:14:17,840
You know, you're only considering taking them to the prom.

2694
03:14:17,940 --> 03:14:19,700
You haven't decided to take them to the prom yet.

2695
03:14:20,520 --> 03:14:23,880
So again, this is not staff's recommendation.

2696
03:14:24,280 --> 03:14:25,560
We're looking for you for direction.

2697
03:14:27,240 --> 03:14:31,500
And it's really the discretion of the council at this point from a policy perspective.

2698
03:14:31,840 --> 03:14:43,280
So with that being said, can I ask Mr. Miller or Mr. Palmer, are you guys comfortable with entering into discussion, demonstrating a feasibility?

2699
03:14:43,600 --> 03:14:45,480
You guys are investing a lot of money.

2700
03:14:45,480 --> 03:14:51,660
And then I saying we're gonna put it up for the public. So after you did all that study

2701
03:14:52,660 --> 03:14:57,940
We are gonna go to an RFP RFQ. Are you guys okay with that?

2702
03:14:58,920 --> 03:14:59,480
whoever

2703
03:15:00,760 --> 03:15:05,560
If you would like to answer that question, can you come up here to the podium please?

2704
03:15:09,080 --> 03:15:11,780
I don't mean to put you on the spot, I just want to make sure they weren't transparent.

2705
03:15:13,080 --> 03:15:14,580
Can you just make your name please?

2706
03:15:15,220 --> 03:15:18,060
John Palmer, 1032 North Central Avenue.

2707
03:15:20,820 --> 03:15:26,660
It is a good question and we have represented to staff and I want to thank Andrew in his

2708
03:15:26,660 --> 03:15:30,520
of course, voice for his honesty and clarity

2709
03:15:30,520 --> 03:15:32,000
in presenting the item.

2710
03:15:32,160 --> 03:15:33,920
I think we've talked about his staff report,

2711
03:15:34,000 --> 03:15:34,900
had some of the statements.

2712
03:15:35,100 --> 03:15:36,540
I don't think he did that with any intention.

2713
03:15:37,500 --> 03:15:39,660
I want to be very clear that I will not

2714
03:15:39,660 --> 03:15:42,700
lie, cheat, or steal to propagate my project.

2715
03:15:43,060 --> 03:15:44,460
I wish certain staff members would

2716
03:15:44,460 --> 03:15:45,580
give me the same courtesy.

2717
03:15:46,820 --> 03:15:49,400
The staff report from earlier tonight from us, Ghost,

2718
03:15:50,000 --> 03:15:51,780
and things that were represented tonight

2719
03:15:51,780 --> 03:15:53,220
are still not factual.

2720
03:15:53,700 --> 03:15:56,100
I don't want to get into that discussion with you.

2721
03:15:56,700 --> 03:16:01,680
Your question on whether or not we agree to go through a feasibility and due diligence

2722
03:16:01,680 --> 03:16:07,740
and talk to financiers and talk to state agencies, and if we develop a project for you and wrap

2723
03:16:07,740 --> 03:16:10,500
it up in an nice bow, are we willing to walk away from the project?

2724
03:16:11,000 --> 03:16:14,740
If that's the best thing for the community, and that's one thing we've talked about,

2725
03:16:15,000 --> 03:16:20,060
we want the best for the community, and what we've said from day one is we're

2726
03:16:20,060 --> 03:16:21,960
trying to initially monetize in nuisance,

2727
03:16:22,220 --> 03:16:23,380
and we're three years later,

2728
03:16:23,740 --> 03:16:25,680
and you've made no progress on this project.

2729
03:16:25,860 --> 03:16:27,980
And I've heard several times

2730
03:16:27,980 --> 03:16:29,760
that there have been other folks in front of you.

2731
03:16:30,560 --> 03:16:32,840
No one else has set up meetings with staff

2732
03:16:32,840 --> 03:16:34,480
and have put a proposal together.

2733
03:16:34,860 --> 03:16:38,380
We have sat patiently aside for over two and a half years

2734
03:16:38,380 --> 03:16:42,160
to have this moment tonight for a variety of reasons.

2735
03:16:43,380 --> 03:16:46,060
So to say that we'll go through due diligence,

2736
03:16:46,200 --> 03:16:47,140
feasibility, and walk away,

2737
03:16:47,240 --> 03:16:48,720
if that's the best thing for the community,

2738
03:16:48,720 --> 03:16:53,880
Yes, we will consider that, but we also want to understand that if we walk away and maybe

2739
03:16:53,880 --> 03:16:58,820
from our side we address an NRA that if we wrap a project up nicely in a bow, then maybe

2740
03:16:58,820 --> 03:17:01,720
we get compensated for developing that project on your behalf.

2741
03:17:02,720 --> 03:17:06,480
So yes, it's something we will consider if that's the best thing for the community

2742
03:17:06,480 --> 03:17:08,740
and that's something we will consider.

2743
03:17:09,080 --> 03:17:13,780
But again, and I don't want to get into addressing all the misstatements and the

2744
03:17:13,780 --> 03:17:17,220
the unfactual items that were presented tonight.

2745
03:17:17,760 --> 03:17:19,780
That's something that we can discuss in our ENRA,

2746
03:17:20,500 --> 03:17:22,180
and it's items we can discuss with your staff.

2747
03:17:22,660 --> 03:17:25,420
So again, I think Jim Miller did a fantastic job

2748
03:17:25,420 --> 03:17:27,720
in saying we simply want to look at

2749
03:17:27,720 --> 03:17:29,960
whether there is a surplus supply of water

2750
03:17:29,960 --> 03:17:32,560
and excess supply for a period of time.

2751
03:17:32,980 --> 03:17:34,560
And we've represented over and over,

2752
03:17:34,660 --> 03:17:36,840
we're not looking at tying up your water in perpetuity.

2753
03:17:37,120 --> 03:17:39,200
We're not looking at taking away from your ability

2754
03:17:39,200 --> 03:17:42,300
to do your general plan build out.

2755
03:17:42,300 --> 03:17:49,040
But I will tell you that you didn't build out your 1993 general plan. You've yet to build out your 1982 general plan

2756
03:17:49,040 --> 03:17:55,500
So we're talking about a conceptual build out of your general plan that may never occur

2757
03:17:55,500 --> 03:18:01,500
So those are the kind of things we want to explore with your staff and see if this project has viability

2758
03:18:01,500 --> 03:18:06,520
We might determine that there is no role for a private entity and we'll walk away from the project

2759
03:18:07,980 --> 03:18:13,040
John, thank you for clarifying and for coming and speaking out.

2760
03:18:16,060 --> 03:18:26,660
So without being said, cancel, entering into this discussion of potentially getting into

2761
03:18:26,660 --> 03:18:28,960
an EIA, we're going to be back.

2762
03:18:29,680 --> 03:18:36,120
So before a contract, before something gets so determined, it's going to come back to

2763
03:18:36,120 --> 03:18:36,520
cancel.

2764
03:18:36,520 --> 03:18:43,280
So we're looking to see into the potentials of entering into a, in a, sorry.

2765
03:18:44,480 --> 03:18:45,320
The NRA.

2766
03:18:45,560 --> 03:18:46,080
Thank you.

2767
03:18:46,500 --> 03:18:46,700
Yes.

2768
03:18:46,880 --> 03:18:50,700
Sorry, I'm suffering from a cold, I have a bubble.

2769
03:18:51,480 --> 03:18:57,280
Anyways, so that is something that you will be betting out through the discussions.

2770
03:18:57,760 --> 03:18:58,080
Correct.

2771
03:18:58,460 --> 03:18:58,620
Okay.

2772
03:18:58,660 --> 03:19:02,780
And this issue, this exact issue right now of, you know, making sure that there's

2773
03:19:02,780 --> 03:19:08,300
provisions for making sure that the city is not binding itself in the future.

2774
03:19:08,520 --> 03:19:12,240
And I think what Mr. Palmer mentioned about like in the event if any of the

2775
03:19:12,240 --> 03:19:16,020
information gathered by the city would be used by someone else they'd be

2776
03:19:16,020 --> 03:19:20,760
compensated. I mean this is exactly the type of this direction we need in order

2777
03:19:20,760 --> 03:19:26,840
to negotiate an ENARA. Yeah so and again I want to apologize to the group

2778
03:19:26,840 --> 03:19:30,440
for waiting for two and a half years.

2779
03:19:31,000 --> 03:19:32,340
I know there are other groups.

2780
03:19:32,920 --> 03:19:34,600
We had a lot of changes.

2781
03:19:34,960 --> 03:19:38,140
A lot of things have been no fault of any one person,

2782
03:19:38,660 --> 03:19:40,360
but sometimes it's what we're at.

2783
03:19:42,320 --> 03:19:46,020
And again, I'm not opposed to the idea and the concept.

2784
03:19:46,240 --> 03:19:49,040
I'm just a little uneasy about how we go into the process.

2785
03:19:49,220 --> 03:19:52,640
With that being said, and with all the clarifications

2786
03:19:52,640 --> 03:20:02,000
given, I see myself being supported of entering into a discussion. Thank you for all the clarifications.

2787
03:20:02,640 --> 03:20:10,700
Yes, thank you. So I don't have the institutional knowledge of the history of the previous proposals,

2788
03:20:10,920 --> 03:20:13,740
so forgive me for asking certain kind of questions.

2789
03:20:15,840 --> 03:20:18,600
My first one was so the option,

2790
03:20:18,600 --> 03:20:23,460
It sounded like there was going to be an option for the city itself to do a peer review in-house study.

2791
03:20:24,120 --> 03:20:29,340
Is that cost, or would that cost be taxpayer dollars,

2792
03:20:29,620 --> 03:20:35,100
or who's going to fund the reciprocal in-house study to peer review any feasibility study?

2793
03:20:36,420 --> 03:20:39,100
So we're really looking, as the staff report said,

2794
03:20:39,680 --> 03:20:42,940
looking for direction from council for that next step in the ENRA,

2795
03:20:43,060 --> 03:20:45,960
but we would suggest that as we would with other developers,

2796
03:20:45,960 --> 03:20:50,880
They have a cost recovery agreement and cover the cost of staff and other things that we'll work with them on

2797
03:20:50,880 --> 03:20:54,020
So it having said that we'd work with them

2798
03:20:54,020 --> 03:20:58,960
But our impression would be that they would cover those costs. Okay, so I I agree with you there

2799
03:20:59,640 --> 03:21:05,760
And then also and in light of the letter that we received from the law officers of Robert Malhaf

2800
03:21:06,400 --> 03:21:11,820
He said again water lobs incredibly complex. It was the most boring class I took in law school

2801
03:21:11,820 --> 03:21:20,800
But can we commit or can I at least hopefully give direction that any feasibility study is going to include a legal analysis

2802
03:21:20,800 --> 03:21:27,720
addressing some of the questions that were brought up because they are two questions. The water code is intense.

2803
03:21:28,340 --> 03:21:34,040
So can we agree on that direction as a council that it needs to include a legal analysis?

2804
03:21:34,040 --> 03:21:41,960
So the scope of kind of the task or the scope of the NRA, what we're hearing is you want

2805
03:21:41,960 --> 03:21:47,340
an element of legal analysis and a peer review, an independent peer review study.

2806
03:21:48,040 --> 03:21:57,360
Yes. And from what I heard from the podium and from what I hear from Councillor Vargas

2807
03:21:58,040 --> 03:22:02,960
regarding the RFP, I think if this has a potential for a large scale project,

2808
03:22:02,960 --> 03:22:09,180
I and I want to make very clear again. This is a feasibility study today. We're not doing anything in ground projects

2809
03:22:09,180 --> 03:22:14,840
So moving forward any large-scale project. I would also support that being an RFP. So that it is fair and equitable

2810
03:22:15,580 --> 03:22:19,900
And then I just had a question related to if if I don't know if mr.

2811
03:22:20,540 --> 03:22:29,240
Miller would like to answer somebody you don't have to is the or maybe our city attorney knows is the exclusive language necessary because of

2812
03:22:29,240 --> 03:22:37,400
of proprietary information, what would be the reason for that particular element of a contract in that?

2813
03:22:37,520 --> 03:22:47,940
It's because it's good faith negotiations, right? It's they want to know that the time, the effort and the resources that they're dedicating to the negotiations are being honored,

2814
03:22:47,940 --> 03:22:55,580
that we're not also just shopping around, right? As City Manager said, they want to know that we're kind of an according process

2815
03:22:55,580 --> 03:23:00,360
and they want to know that they're the only courting one because it is an investment of resources and time and energy.

2816
03:23:01,140 --> 03:23:08,740
And also, you know, be mindful, it's like opportunity costs from a business side, right, that they're dedicating their time to exploring this relationship with us

2817
03:23:08,740 --> 03:23:14,140
and they want that kind of exclusivity to make sure it's kind of worth their time.

2818
03:23:14,840 --> 03:23:21,480
So, and I understand that and I know that they would need the contract in place, you know, you need the legitimacy of the city behind you

2819
03:23:21,480 --> 03:23:26,200
in order to conduct portions necessary to complete the feasibility study,

2820
03:23:26,440 --> 03:23:28,000
and I absolutely understand that.

2821
03:23:28,640 --> 03:23:29,960
So at least with my direction,

2822
03:23:31,480 --> 03:23:35,580
if an MOU would be sufficient without exclusionary language,

2823
03:23:35,700 --> 03:23:36,480
I'd be okay with that.

2824
03:23:36,920 --> 03:23:39,340
If the exclusionary language remains in there,

2825
03:23:39,660 --> 03:23:42,280
I'm very comfortable, I am flexible with the opportunity

2826
03:23:42,280 --> 03:23:45,540
for maybe paying back portions of it just like you stated.

2827
03:23:46,100 --> 03:23:47,840
That would be the direction that I would give.

2828
03:23:49,560 --> 03:23:52,660
And, you know, I'm in support of a recycled water project.

2829
03:23:52,820 --> 03:23:56,980
So I'd like to see them forward, but this again is very limited in scope to a feasibility study.

2830
03:23:57,240 --> 03:23:58,320
So that would be my direction.

2831
03:23:59,080 --> 03:23:59,640
Thank you.

2832
03:24:00,100 --> 03:24:00,600
Can I have some of ransom?

2833
03:24:01,520 --> 03:24:02,660
Yes, very briefly.

2834
03:24:02,900 --> 03:24:05,040
So I definitely would support the legal analysis.

2835
03:24:05,440 --> 03:24:06,180
I'll go there.

2836
03:24:06,820 --> 03:24:09,140
And I guess I was just trying to understand.

2837
03:24:09,360 --> 03:24:10,260
So I want to be clear.

2838
03:24:10,420 --> 03:24:15,680
No one else normally, when there's things going on, we all get, I assume that we all get contact.

2839
03:24:15,680 --> 03:24:21,660
In fact, I've not heard from any other district in the last three years in regards to this project.

2840
03:24:22,400 --> 03:24:27,880
So it would be interesting and I'm sure the city can bring more information when we get there.

2841
03:24:28,220 --> 03:24:38,140
And also just in regards to the exclusive negotiating and just kind of some of the perspective in regards to it.

2842
03:24:38,320 --> 03:24:43,080
We have been down this road before in regards to like legacy fields.

2843
03:24:43,080 --> 03:24:50,520
We held up the fields and just to see the feasibility and at that time there were other people asking to do that

2844
03:24:50,520 --> 03:24:53,400
Coming to the city writing letters asking to do that

2845
03:24:53,400 --> 03:25:00,500
I don't see anyone else asking to do this and I'm really curious as to seeing that other cities are looking

2846
03:25:01,240 --> 03:25:06,360
At this as long as we are not like given away the store

2847
03:25:06,360 --> 03:25:12,300
And we're saying we're going to you know do all of the checks and balances and find out what the pros and cons

2848
03:25:14,360 --> 03:25:19,740
I would hope we can do this quickly, but I'm also reassured that by the time we get to

2849
03:25:19,740 --> 03:25:24,620
this we're going to know a little bit more about the water sources because we may get

2850
03:25:24,620 --> 03:25:29,500
to the end of this and find out there's not even enough water to even have excess water.

2851
03:25:29,760 --> 03:25:38,600
So I just want to say that I support the efforts to minimize any risk as well as

2852
03:25:38,600 --> 03:25:42,000
to make sure that we are doing our due diligence

2853
03:25:42,000 --> 03:25:44,500
and making sure we are in accordance with any laws

2854
03:25:44,500 --> 03:25:50,040
that would not interfere, that would be violated.

2855
03:25:51,060 --> 03:25:53,720
And public-private partnerships are pretty,

2856
03:25:54,860 --> 03:25:56,140
they're interested, they're complicated,

2857
03:25:56,360 --> 03:25:58,880
they're not always appropriated, I was appropriate.

2858
03:25:59,500 --> 03:26:03,280
So we've seen some that have gone really bad

2859
03:26:03,280 --> 03:26:05,220
in regards to water in Stockton.

2860
03:26:05,220 --> 03:26:12,200
But as Mr. Palmer said, you know, they're willing to check it out.

2861
03:26:12,260 --> 03:26:17,840
If it doesn't work, then they will be willing to walk away from it if it's in the best interest of the community.

2862
03:26:18,120 --> 03:26:22,940
And I appreciate that you publicly stated that because you know we like to go back to things that people say.

2863
03:26:23,060 --> 03:26:29,540
I appreciate you publicly stating that the best interest of the community is what's going to be exercised here.

2864
03:26:29,540 --> 03:26:36,880
So I just wanted to kind of echo some of the other sentiments and say that I would support

2865
03:26:37,940 --> 03:26:42,360
what was presented in order to protect the community's interest and move forward.

2866
03:26:42,580 --> 03:26:42,880
Thank you.

2867
03:26:44,140 --> 03:26:44,620
Rodin?

2868
03:26:44,900 --> 03:26:45,200
I do.

2869
03:26:45,340 --> 03:26:45,460
Thanks.

2870
03:26:46,000 --> 03:26:50,940
So I'm not sure what all we need support for as far as making sure that if, in fact,

2871
03:26:51,040 --> 03:26:56,380
we do go another direction after the scope, everything is done and then that there will

2872
03:26:56,380 --> 03:26:57,880
be some type of reimbursement.

2873
03:26:57,880 --> 03:27:01,940
because if that's needed, then I definitely support that.

2874
03:27:02,240 --> 03:27:04,120
I also want to just make sure because see these letters,

2875
03:27:04,280 --> 03:27:07,580
even though this has legal things that will be included

2876
03:27:07,580 --> 03:27:11,220
in the scope, the thing is really clarifying what the ask is

2877
03:27:11,220 --> 03:27:14,200
because these letters are in a response to something different

2878
03:27:14,200 --> 03:27:18,220
as has been clarified by Mr. Palmer as far as they're not

2879
03:27:18,220 --> 03:27:20,880
asking to buy but to help monetize the system

2880
03:27:20,880 --> 03:27:23,500
for the city of Tracy, which is different

2881
03:27:23,500 --> 03:27:25,640
than the letters are addressing.

2882
03:27:25,640 --> 03:27:30,700
So I don't know if we need to do your feasibility study

2883
03:27:30,700 --> 03:27:32,960
if that will look at both ways

2884
03:27:32,960 --> 03:27:35,940
because it seems like even what other people are asking is buying,

2885
03:27:36,180 --> 03:27:37,200
which is something different.

2886
03:27:37,700 --> 03:27:39,600
So I don't know if it will show that string,

2887
03:27:39,680 --> 03:27:43,500
would that naturally show that potential type of option

2888
03:27:43,500 --> 03:27:45,320
because it's very different, two things.

2889
03:27:45,560 --> 03:27:50,640
I think the core issue is that the proposal is to conduct

2890
03:27:51,360 --> 03:27:53,140
a feasibility study in order to,

2891
03:27:53,820 --> 03:27:57,800
regarding the monetization of the recycled water. I think some of the letters

2892
03:27:57,800 --> 03:28:03,560
that we received are speaking to the actual sale of water. So keep in mind

2893
03:28:03,560 --> 03:28:08,400
it's obviously a for-profit venture and the letters are speaking to well

2894
03:28:08,400 --> 03:28:13,840
trying to restrict how that for-profit venture could potentially function. So

2895
03:28:13,840 --> 03:28:18,220
that's why it's kind of it is somewhat interrelated and all of those

2896
03:28:18,220 --> 03:28:26,820
issues can be looked at during this feasibility study by staff with the help of outside council.

2897
03:28:28,000 --> 03:28:34,300
Okay. Thank you. And my last statement is what I had said earlier also that since this has

2898
03:28:34,300 --> 03:28:41,020
first been brought up more than two years ago, only one prior to this week has ever

2899
03:28:41,020 --> 03:28:45,940
approached me as a council member, and usually different entities reach out to several of us

2900
03:28:45,940 --> 03:28:51,700
on the council. And so it's kind of a, we have a me too kind of adding on it. It feels like.

2901
03:28:51,880 --> 03:28:57,880
And so maybe there's been other discussions behind the scenes as one person did say they were approached by past staff.

2902
03:28:58,600 --> 03:29:07,780
And they said, sure, they will be interested. But we do appreciate, I do appreciate proactivity and being proactive in trying to bring

2903
03:29:08,880 --> 03:29:14,120
resources to our city and trying to help increase our bottom line. So thank you.

2904
03:29:15,220 --> 03:29:21,760
All right. I'll wrap it up. And council did a good job of

2905
03:29:24,060 --> 03:29:25,840
getting to the minutiae of this,

2906
03:29:26,100 --> 03:29:31,480
but I just want to agree. I mean, it's been, what, two, three years, and no person has ever

2907
03:29:31,480 --> 03:29:38,460
approached me about it except for, you know, the individual sitting here. I know when

2908
03:29:38,460 --> 03:29:42,400
it was talked about coming on council last time, it's the same kind of arguments.

2909
03:29:42,400 --> 03:29:50,320
and then no ENA or no contract or no MOU and yet we still haven't heard anything.

2910
03:29:51,140 --> 03:29:59,880
So again to this day I had only one person that ever came up to at least me as individual council member or mayor and asked

2911
03:30:00,840 --> 03:30:08,260
And again, this has been two, three years. And in regards to, like, the ENRA, and RNA is

2912
03:30:08,260 --> 03:30:13,360
in the binding in the sense that, you know, if you look at the history of Tracy, or in

2913
03:30:13,360 --> 03:30:18,400
the last ten years, and how many ENRAs have we have done, there have been several that

2914
03:30:18,400 --> 03:30:26,620
we have done with the ENRA, with an individual, and usually, and at least all the ones I

2915
03:30:26,620 --> 03:30:30,920
I can remember it's always been one entity comes up and it wasn't a huge line.

2916
03:30:32,080 --> 03:30:39,960
And there's times that through the NRA, through they spent their money, they did the feasibility study and it has come to the council and we have denied it.

2917
03:30:41,380 --> 03:30:44,900
And that's one of the, you know, things about the NRA.

2918
03:30:45,320 --> 03:30:49,260
It's not, and it's just because you get into it doesn't mean the project is yours.

2919
03:30:49,880 --> 03:30:57,760
It's that simple. So when you have individuals accusing councilmembers up here of favoritism

2920
03:30:57,760 --> 03:31:04,780
or that, you know, you are going to take things away from the end of it. There's no taking

2921
03:31:04,780 --> 03:31:08,860
it all right here. And kind of, I think, Daniel or councilmember Ariel has said it

2922
03:31:08,860 --> 03:31:13,020
best. It's just negotiation. We're just looking into it. So with that being said,

2923
03:31:13,020 --> 03:31:15,820
intertone of motion. Nope.

2924
03:31:17,640 --> 03:31:22,460
So Mayor, can I just tee up kind of what I heard and then perhaps you could develop your

2925
03:31:22,460 --> 03:31:28,680
motion from that? It appears that there's consensus to negotiate an ENRA with PPIG to complete

2926
03:31:28,680 --> 03:31:33,920
a feasibility study which would be the monetization of future recycled water. That scope will

2927
03:31:33,920 --> 03:31:39,240
include a fiscal, excuse me, a legal analysis. It will also include a cost recovery agreement

2928
03:31:39,240 --> 03:31:44,760
to cover city costs, and then we would subsequently return to council if there was feasibility

2929
03:31:44,760 --> 03:31:49,660
for a larger scale project in which council indicated that they would want to explore

2930
03:31:49,660 --> 03:31:51,280
a potential RFP process.

2931
03:31:53,580 --> 03:31:54,460
Anybody disagree?

2932
03:31:56,920 --> 03:31:57,800
Anybody disagree?

2933
03:31:58,440 --> 03:31:59,740
So if not, we're going to go to that.

2934
03:31:59,740 --> 03:32:00,520
I'm sorry, that last part.

2935
03:32:00,640 --> 03:32:01,480
Can you just repeat that again?

2936
03:32:01,600 --> 03:32:02,180
I don't know how it goes.

2937
03:32:02,480 --> 03:32:06,680
I heard that there was interest in returning to council if there was feasibility

2938
03:32:06,680 --> 03:32:13,560
for a large-scale project, but that you guys would want to explore an RFP process for that.

2939
03:32:14,080 --> 03:32:17,760
That we're saying that we definitely want to do that, or possibly.

2940
03:32:19,720 --> 03:32:20,900
You need to make sure.

2941
03:32:21,000 --> 03:32:24,460
I heard you that you wanted to do that, but I need you to give me consensus that that's

2942
03:32:24,460 --> 03:32:24,740
accurate.

2943
03:32:25,100 --> 03:32:30,200
I mean, what I heard was that we want you to do a feasibility study that would be

2944
03:32:30,200 --> 03:32:34,320
more robust so that we have the opportunity to see if there's a different path to

2945
03:32:34,320 --> 03:32:36,720
to go in, but not to say definitely.

2946
03:32:36,800 --> 03:32:37,640
Because if we're saying definitely,

2947
03:32:38,000 --> 03:32:39,260
we're gonna open up to RFP,

2948
03:32:39,320 --> 03:32:40,860
that's a whole another thing we have to say now

2949
03:32:40,860 --> 03:32:41,620
that we're gonna reimburse

2950
03:32:41,620 --> 03:32:43,080
and they're just going through the process

2951
03:32:43,080 --> 03:32:44,320
of opening up for everybody.

2952
03:32:44,560 --> 03:32:46,800
If a council member wants to make a motion,

2953
03:32:46,940 --> 03:32:48,800
they can exclude that or include that,

2954
03:32:48,920 --> 03:32:50,320
it's up to the direction of the council.

2955
03:32:51,300 --> 03:32:52,680
So why don't we go ahead and do a motion?

2956
03:32:53,720 --> 03:32:55,460
So somebody would like to entertain a motion

2957
03:32:55,460 --> 03:32:57,240
or somebody would like to formulate a motion

2958
03:32:57,760 --> 03:33:00,940
so we can move on and then we can be more specific

2959
03:33:00,940 --> 03:33:03,680
and that our staff has direction.

2960
03:33:04,520 --> 03:33:12,800
I will not mind making the motion as was stated with the recovery.

2961
03:33:13,420 --> 03:33:18,460
If we're going to go to an RFP, they could end up being them or could be somebody else.

2962
03:33:18,660 --> 03:33:22,520
If there's not being them, I can see the group being reversed for it.

2963
03:33:23,240 --> 03:33:27,920
So could you read that motion now?

2964
03:33:30,100 --> 03:33:35,220
I'm more comfortable with that, but if, again, it's the flavor of the council.

2965
03:33:37,600 --> 03:33:46,640
So, now, Council Member Horr, City Manager, when are you going to state what you said, what you thought we heard?

2966
03:33:46,920 --> 03:33:48,100
Let's start with that right there.

2967
03:33:50,290 --> 03:33:51,650
No, what you said in the beginning.

2968
03:33:51,650 --> 03:33:53,490
What I said in the beginning was

2969
03:33:54,690 --> 03:34:02,710
Is there consensus to negotiate an ENA with PPI G to complete a feasibility study for the monetization of future recycled water?

2970
03:34:02,950 --> 03:34:04,870
The scope will include a legal analysis

2971
03:34:06,170 --> 03:34:13,430
City cost will be recovered through a cost recovery agreement and then council needs to provide direction if you want to include

2972
03:34:13,430 --> 03:34:18,330
An RFP process should there be feasibility for a large-scale project

2973
03:34:18,330 --> 03:34:23,390
can I get that could be premature because again you don't know what you're

2974
03:34:23,390 --> 03:34:27,650
going to be presented with yeah I mean if you just maybe we should exclude that

2975
03:34:27,650 --> 03:34:33,130
just take that portion off it okay yeah I offer maybe a provision that in the

2976
03:34:33,130 --> 03:34:39,470
event of allow for reimbursement in the event that the the work or the

2977
03:34:39,470 --> 03:34:44,450
feasibility study completed during the scope of this ENRA informs future

2978
03:34:44,970 --> 03:34:47,030
endeavors that do not involve PPIG?

2979
03:34:47,650 --> 03:34:48,730
That sounds good.

2980
03:34:48,970 --> 03:34:50,150
That's where I was going to go.

2981
03:34:50,430 --> 03:34:50,590
Okay.

2982
03:34:51,170 --> 03:34:52,750
Do you need a motion for that or no?

2983
03:34:53,250 --> 03:34:53,950
Do we also meet?

2984
03:34:54,070 --> 03:34:54,730
I didn't hear you mention.

2985
03:34:54,870 --> 03:34:56,990
I heard in staff report something about a peer review,

2986
03:34:57,070 --> 03:34:58,870
but then I didn't hear anything about a peer review

2987
03:34:59,290 --> 03:35:01,590
in this proposed motion.

2988
03:35:02,330 --> 03:35:02,610
Yeah, I was.

2989
03:35:02,870 --> 03:35:04,630
I think with the cost recovery it was assumed.

2990
03:35:04,870 --> 03:35:05,050
Right.

2991
03:35:05,610 --> 03:35:06,490
Assumed a peer review.

2992
03:35:06,790 --> 03:35:06,910
Okay.

2993
03:35:07,230 --> 03:35:08,350
So do you need a motion with that?

2994
03:35:08,830 --> 03:35:10,550
Or is that just good direction?

2995
03:35:10,730 --> 03:35:11,810
I would like a motion, please.

2996
03:35:12,090 --> 03:35:12,350
Okay.

2997
03:35:12,870 --> 03:35:14,210
Can you say so moved?

2998
03:35:14,770 --> 03:35:15,170
Yeah, you can.

2999
03:35:15,230 --> 03:35:15,670
Wait, you say it.

3000
03:35:16,750 --> 03:35:17,330
Yeah, go ahead.

3001
03:35:17,650 --> 03:35:17,830
Okay.

3002
03:35:18,070 --> 03:35:19,770
So, all right.

3003
03:35:20,250 --> 03:35:27,730
I would move that staff negotiate an exclusive negotiating rights agreement with PPIG for

3004
03:35:27,730 --> 03:35:31,910
the completion of a feasibility study regarding the potential monetization of the city's future

3005
03:35:31,910 --> 03:35:39,550
recycled water supply, the scope of which would include a legal analysis, the city

3006
03:35:39,550 --> 03:35:46,630
cost recovery with a cost recovery agreement and the event the feasibility of the NRA that is not involved PPIG

3007
03:35:46,630 --> 03:35:47,970
There would be reimbursement

3008
03:35:48,470 --> 03:35:50,870
Now second that's rough, but it's what I got

3009
03:35:51,750 --> 03:35:57,750
Calcifer that good now second. Yes. All right. Yeah, I got a second by pro tem in a roll call, please

3010
03:35:58,710 --> 03:36:06,790
So the motion was cost me a bag of aryola aryola consumer aryola. Yes, ma'am young. Yes, that's me a ransom. Yes

3011
03:36:08,490 --> 03:36:15,710
Mayor Rickman. Yes. Alright, move on to item 3G. Thank you everybody that was here for that. Appreciate it.

3012
03:36:16,230 --> 03:36:19,410
Item 3G, a 0.4 applicants to serve on the Tracy Arts Commission.

3013
03:36:20,230 --> 03:36:27,870
Do you want to do that or? It's just Councilmember Ransom and I and we met here, was it last week? Yes.

3014
03:36:27,870 --> 03:36:35,130
I met with several individuals, and we had to pick four, which we had four vacancies.

3015
03:36:35,570 --> 03:36:40,350
So with that being said, do you want to say the names?

3016
03:36:42,090 --> 03:36:43,950
Yes, I can say the names.

3017
03:36:44,070 --> 03:36:50,410
So we interviewed six applicants for four spots, and we, as we explained, there's

3018
03:36:50,410 --> 03:36:54,150
only four spots, and encouraged people to apply for other opportunities.

3019
03:36:54,150 --> 03:37:10,330
And so our subcommittee is recommending Maxie Lee's, Jill Taylor, Margarita Anderson, and Cynthia Rias to be appointed to the Tracy Arts Commission and serve four-year terms beginning January 1, 2020, ending December 31, 2023.

3020
03:37:11,350 --> 03:37:17,530
All right. With that being said, the note to council discussion, we need to open up for public comment. Anybody from the public wishing to address council on this item?

3021
03:37:17,530 --> 03:37:18,470
Seeing

3022
03:37:21,160 --> 03:37:27,260
none, bring it back to council, entertain them, well I guess we have a motion, got a second.

3023
03:37:27,260 --> 03:37:29,260
I said I'll third because you don't make sense.

3024
03:37:29,520 --> 03:37:30,740
Yeah, so get a roll call please.

3025
03:37:33,000 --> 03:37:33,780
Councilman Rainson?

3026
03:37:33,980 --> 03:37:34,100
Yes.

3027
03:37:35,840 --> 03:37:36,680
Is it Mayor Rickman?

3028
03:37:37,020 --> 03:37:37,140
Yes.

3029
03:37:37,740 --> 03:37:38,440
Mayor Rickman?

3030
03:37:38,880 --> 03:37:39,080
Yes.

3031
03:37:40,360 --> 03:37:41,220
Councilman Areola?

3032
03:37:41,480 --> 03:37:41,640
Yes.

3033
03:37:41,820 --> 03:37:42,420
Councilman Vargas?

3034
03:37:42,780 --> 03:37:43,060
Yes.

3035
03:37:43,780 --> 03:37:44,600
Mayor Pro-Jim Young?

3036
03:37:44,840 --> 03:37:45,100
Yes.

3037
03:37:45,880 --> 03:37:46,460
All right.

3038
03:37:47,200 --> 03:37:51,380
Moving on to item 3H, appointment of city council, subcommittee to interview applicants

3039
03:37:51,380 --> 03:37:56,220
to fill three term expressions on the parks and community service commission.

3040
03:37:57,240 --> 03:38:02,980
Good evening Mayor and City Council, Adrian Richardson, City Clerk. On January 31, 2020,

3041
03:38:03,400 --> 03:38:08,020
turns for three parks and community service commissions will expire. Our recruitment was

3042
03:38:08,020 --> 03:38:13,720
advertised beginning November 1, 2019 and will end on December 19. In accordance with

3043
03:38:13,720 --> 03:38:19,720
resolution number 2004-152, a two-member subcommittee needs to be appointed to interview

3044
03:38:19,720 --> 03:38:24,120
the applicants and make a recommendation to the full council. Staff recommends that council

3045
03:38:24,120 --> 03:38:27,900
appoint a two member subcommittee to interview the applicants to fill three term expressions

3046
03:38:27,900 --> 03:38:31,300
on the parks and community services commission that concludes my report.

3047
03:38:32,880 --> 03:38:35,900
All right, thank you. We're going to open up for the public comment. Anybody from the

3048
03:38:35,900 --> 03:38:37,600
public wishing to address council on this item?

3049
03:38:41,080 --> 03:38:42,840
Seeing none, we'll open up to council

3050
03:38:42,840 --> 03:38:45,600
discussion. So we need two member subcommittees.

3051
03:38:45,820 --> 03:38:47,060
I have a question for Adrian.

3052
03:38:47,060 --> 03:38:51,780
But yeah, it's like stereo. Who would like to go first here?

3053
03:38:52,420 --> 03:38:54,080
Sure. Go ahead.

3054
03:38:54,180 --> 03:38:55,280
That's Mayor Earl. That's all yours.

3055
03:38:55,620 --> 03:38:58,440
Is your intention that this be done within the next like two weeks,

3056
03:38:58,540 --> 03:38:59,460
because the holidays are coming up?

3057
03:38:59,620 --> 03:39:01,420
I'm just kind of curious what the timeline looks like for this.

3058
03:39:01,860 --> 03:39:02,520
I'm going to close it.

3059
03:39:08,050 --> 03:39:08,750
I'm going to do that.

3060
03:39:11,080 --> 03:39:12,460
So it has to be before the next meeting.

3061
03:39:12,900 --> 03:39:13,040
Okay.

3062
03:39:15,680 --> 03:39:16,240
By when?

3063
03:39:17,560 --> 03:39:18,720
Prior to the next meeting.

3064
03:39:18,880 --> 03:39:18,960
Okay.

3065
03:39:20,970 --> 03:39:21,530
Okay, thank you.

3066
03:39:22,490 --> 03:39:26,070
And now I say I volunteer since I have not in a little while.

3067
03:39:26,070 --> 03:39:30,670
So who would like to do it? I can if it's within the next like two or three weeks. I can do it

3068
03:39:31,370 --> 03:39:33,410
all right, um, so those

3069
03:39:33,790 --> 03:39:35,330
customer Eula and

3070
03:39:35,330 --> 03:39:37,490
Can't my Vargas anybody have a problem with that?

3071
03:39:40,050 --> 03:39:41,690
Good, I don't have a problem with it

3072
03:39:41,690 --> 03:39:46,770
I mean, I'm I just felt guilty because I haven't done in a long time, but I'm buying for you to do it remember that

3073
03:39:46,770 --> 03:39:47,750
the next one

3074
03:39:48,450 --> 03:39:50,910
Might be at a bad time, but okay, that's fine

3075
03:39:50,910 --> 03:39:51,890
All right.

3076
03:39:52,050 --> 03:39:59,450
So I move to appoint Council Member Vargas and Council Member Ariola as the two members

3077
03:39:59,450 --> 03:40:03,370
of committee to interview applicants to fill three term expirations on the Parks and Community

3078
03:40:03,370 --> 03:40:04,230
Services Commission.

3079
03:40:05,150 --> 03:40:07,750
And roll call please, seconded by Council Member Ransom.

3080
03:40:09,030 --> 03:40:09,850
Mayor Bo-Chun-Young.

3081
03:40:10,130 --> 03:40:10,310
Yes.

3082
03:40:10,870 --> 03:40:11,750
Council Member Ransom.

3083
03:40:11,870 --> 03:40:12,050
Yes.

3084
03:40:12,530 --> 03:40:13,470
Council Member Ariola.

3085
03:40:13,670 --> 03:40:13,870
Yes.

3086
03:40:14,090 --> 03:40:14,770
Council Member Vargas.

3087
03:40:15,010 --> 03:40:15,190
Yes.

3088
03:40:15,410 --> 03:40:15,430
Yes.

3089
03:40:16,650 --> 03:40:17,310
All right.

3090
03:40:17,570 --> 03:40:17,770
Thank you.

3091
03:40:17,770 --> 03:40:23,230
I move on to item 3. I discuss amending the tracing municipal code section 2.08 point.

3092
03:40:26,290 --> 03:40:29,050
You know what? Anybody need to take a quick break or we're good?

3093
03:40:30,210 --> 03:40:30,710
We're good.

3094
03:40:31,610 --> 03:40:39,450
All right. Discuss amending the tracing municipal code section 2.08.080 to require a supermajority vote

3095
03:40:39,450 --> 03:40:44,090
of four members of the city council to remove the city manager or city attorney and provide direction to staff.

3096
03:40:45,670 --> 03:40:46,790
Staff report, please.

3097
03:40:46,790 --> 03:40:50,890
Good evening, Mayor and Members of Council. Kimberly Murdoch, Human Resources Director.

3098
03:40:51,730 --> 03:40:58,390
The item before you tonight is to discuss a recommendation in the 2018-2019 grand jury

3099
03:40:58,390 --> 03:41:04,210
report recommending council consider amending the municipal code to require a supermajority

3100
03:41:04,210 --> 03:41:10,410
vote of four council members to remove the city manager or city attorney. The Tracy

3101
03:41:10,410 --> 03:41:15,070
Municipal Code, Title II, establishes regulations for the appointment and service of the city

3102
03:41:15,070 --> 03:41:25,730
manager. Specifically, 2.08080.B states, removal of the city manager shall be only by a vote

3103
03:41:25,730 --> 03:41:33,490
of at least three members of the council. The 2018-19 San Joaquin County grantee report

3104
03:41:33,490 --> 03:41:38,310
commented on the administrative and fiscal impacts of the executive staff separations

3105
03:41:38,310 --> 03:41:43,430
in 2017 and 2018. The report highlighted concern regarding the separation of the city

3106
03:41:43,430 --> 03:41:47,070
City Manager, Assistant City Manager, and the police chief as, quote, no explanation

3107
03:41:47,070 --> 03:41:47,730
was given.

3108
03:41:48,290 --> 03:41:51,250
And the release of the City Manager following a contentious 3-2 vote.

3109
03:41:51,950 --> 03:41:57,230
The separations drew attention of the media in the newspaper and on major network affiliates

3110
03:41:57,750 --> 03:42:02,390
encouraging transparency and personal matters of executive staff.

3111
03:42:02,830 --> 03:42:06,170
The grand jury felt the impact of the media attention potentially damaged the city's

3112
03:42:06,170 --> 03:42:10,930
reputation as a desirable employer and made candidates reluctant to apply for open

3113
03:42:10,930 --> 03:42:11,370
positions.

3114
03:42:12,070 --> 03:42:16,930
The grand jury also stated the city manager and city attorney should be shielded from

3115
03:42:16,930 --> 03:42:22,610
power politics and shifting alliances by requiring a supermajority vote for their termination.

3116
03:42:23,470 --> 03:42:29,670
To address this issue, the grand jury recommended council amend the city, Tracy's city municipal

3117
03:42:29,670 --> 03:42:34,130
code to require a supermajority vote of four members of the city council to remove

3118
03:42:34,130 --> 03:42:35,450
the city manager and city attorney.

3119
03:42:36,190 --> 03:42:40,070
The supermajority requirement to remove city manager and city attorney is utilized

3120
03:42:40,070 --> 03:42:45,150
by some public agencies such as the cities of Sacramento and Hildesburg. Requiring a

3121
03:42:45,150 --> 03:42:50,210
supermajority vote may communicate a commitment to unifying counsel in employment decisions

3122
03:42:50,210 --> 03:42:55,790
related to at-will counsel-appointed positions. Adopting this policy may enhance the city's

3123
03:42:55,790 --> 03:42:59,950
profile as a potential employer because this requirement may lead to more stability

3124
03:42:59,950 --> 03:43:04,570
in city executive leadership. The more common practice is for public agencies to only

3125
03:43:04,570 --> 03:43:08,890
require a majority vote for employment decisions related to at-will counsel-appointed

3126
03:43:08,890 --> 03:43:13,290
and positions requiring a majority vote to remove the city manager and city attorney

3127
03:43:13,290 --> 03:43:17,790
is consistent with the voting requirements provided for resolutions, orders of payment

3128
03:43:17,790 --> 03:43:22,410
and ordinances for be supported by a majority vote of the council.

3129
03:43:23,190 --> 03:43:28,430
The city council has a full discretion on this key policy issue and may decide not

3130
03:43:28,430 --> 03:43:30,170
to implement the grand jury's recommendation.

3131
03:43:31,150 --> 03:43:34,930
If council does support the implementation of the grand jury's recommendation, SAF will

3132
03:43:34,930 --> 03:43:37,970
return with an ordinance for further council action.

3133
03:43:40,690 --> 03:43:41,410
All right, thank you.

3134
03:43:42,130 --> 03:43:43,610
I'm going to open up for public comment.

3135
03:43:43,710 --> 03:43:45,470
Anybody from the public who has council on this item?

3136
03:43:54,540 --> 03:43:56,220
Robert Tanner, 1371, Russia.

3137
03:43:56,480 --> 03:43:57,720
This is long overdue.

3138
03:43:58,180 --> 03:44:01,100
It would lead to stability within the city manager

3139
03:44:01,100 --> 03:44:02,140
and the attorney's office.

3140
03:44:04,060 --> 03:44:06,300
I think the current city council

3141
03:44:06,300 --> 03:44:08,220
should agree to what the grand jury said.

3142
03:44:08,500 --> 03:44:08,800
Thank you.

3143
03:44:09,080 --> 03:44:09,800
Thank you, Mr. Tanner.

3144
03:44:12,490 --> 03:44:12,970
Anyone else?

3145
03:44:15,720 --> 03:44:21,160
Does anyone want to open up or bring it back to public comment, open up for a council discussion?

3146
03:44:21,300 --> 03:44:21,900
Anybody on the council?

3147
03:44:23,400 --> 03:44:24,940
That's my ransom and I'm talking to you in a while.

3148
03:44:25,380 --> 03:44:25,580
Oh.

3149
03:44:26,680 --> 03:44:27,100
Nope.

3150
03:44:27,600 --> 03:44:28,380
That's my pro tem.

3151
03:44:28,900 --> 03:44:29,380
Thanks.

3152
03:44:30,060 --> 03:44:35,320
So this, I do agree with the recommendation.

3153
03:44:36,180 --> 03:44:40,420
I think that when it goes from three to four, it makes it more.

3154
03:44:41,160 --> 03:44:48,180
Well, we can't make it for cause, but I think that in such high-level positions of our city,

3155
03:44:48,600 --> 03:44:52,200
city manager and city attorney, that it should lean more towards cause,

3156
03:44:52,420 --> 03:44:55,340
and that three can possibly be politicized,

3157
03:44:55,500 --> 03:44:59,960
and four would make it lean more towards that way for transparency and for security.

3158
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:07,220
So I'm glad that we actually have really two good city managers and city attorneys at

3159
03:45:07,220 --> 03:45:12,640
the moment we have with our cities. So I'm glad that even through the rocky road that

3160
03:45:12,640 --> 03:45:18,680
we have journey to get to this point that it's turned out to be a good end for us. But for

3161
03:45:18,680 --> 03:45:25,480
the stability and the transparency for the future councils, I think that I support the

3162
03:45:25,480 --> 03:45:26,720
recommendation from the grand jury.

3163
03:45:26,720 --> 03:45:26,800
Okay.

3164
03:45:27,120 --> 03:45:27,520
All right.

3165
03:45:27,660 --> 03:45:27,980
Thank you.

3166
03:45:28,580 --> 03:45:29,280
Anyone else?

3167
03:45:30,640 --> 03:45:31,180
Yes.

3168
03:45:31,300 --> 03:45:31,640
Sorry.

3169
03:45:31,860 --> 03:45:33,180
So I just had to take a question.

3170
03:45:33,440 --> 03:45:39,080
So first one, just kind of curious, do you know the numbers related to or proportion

3171
03:45:39,080 --> 03:45:42,920
of cities that have the supermajority versus regular majority on this?

3172
03:45:44,240 --> 03:45:49,220
The survey I conducted, I was only able to find a couple that were actually a supermajority.

3173
03:45:50,320 --> 03:45:54,900
A majority of them are a simple majority of the council.

3174
03:45:54,900 --> 03:45:56,920
Are you looking kind of in California specifically?

3175
03:45:57,340 --> 03:45:59,760
California agencies, like I said,

3176
03:45:59,820 --> 03:46:01,180
I found Sacramento and Hildesburg,

3177
03:46:02,240 --> 03:46:04,880
but I live or more a city manager potentially,

3178
03:46:05,660 --> 03:46:09,860
but the majority of those are a simple majority,

3179
03:46:09,960 --> 03:46:10,680
not super majority.

3180
03:46:11,040 --> 03:46:11,960
So basically a handful,

3181
03:46:12,180 --> 03:46:14,180
I think California's about 100 cities in there or so.

3182
03:46:15,440 --> 03:46:19,420
And then, so I also think that we have a great city

3183
03:46:19,420 --> 03:46:20,800
manager and city attorney, glad they're here.

3184
03:46:21,540 --> 03:46:22,660
If we do this, you all better not go.

3185
03:46:23,720 --> 03:46:29,660
But my question is related to in the future, how would we reverse this policy decision?

3186
03:46:29,880 --> 03:46:34,000
Would it require three or would it require four to overturn this particular decision?

3187
03:46:38,380 --> 03:46:40,820
The recommendation is to do this by ordinance.

3188
03:46:41,420 --> 03:46:45,440
So an ordinance just requires the vote of three, a simple majority.

3189
03:46:46,560 --> 03:46:54,940
Okay, so despite if we do this theoretically, a future council majority of three could overturn this particular

3190
03:46:54,940 --> 03:46:59,520
ordinance to make it go back to three. Yes. Okay, thank you.

3191
03:47:02,860 --> 03:47:03,580
That leads to another

3192
03:47:03,580 --> 03:47:09,540
question. Can I ask? Well, Council Member Burke. Yes. Thank you. So is there any way

3193
03:47:09,540 --> 03:47:14,160
to put in the ordinance though so that certain things are not effective within

3194
03:47:14,160 --> 03:47:19,860
that particular, you know, after the new City Council so that if in fact

3195
03:47:19,860 --> 03:47:26,880
that it is reversed by a council that it can't be utilized until the next

3196
03:47:26,880 --> 03:47:32,280
seated council? Do you know what I mean? Kind of like a white elephant kind of game thing.

3197
03:47:32,780 --> 03:47:37,060
Like if somebody stole it from you, you can't steal it right back. So just

3198
03:47:39,780 --> 03:47:40,440
did that on Sunday.

3199
03:47:40,640 --> 03:47:46,960
So stole my gift. The municipal code actually does clarify that. So there's a period of time

3200
03:47:46,960 --> 03:47:51,420
after a council is appointed and the city manager is put into a position, there is a window of

3201
03:47:51,420 --> 03:47:56,520
120 days in which no action can be taken. So that's actually already in the municipal code

3202
03:47:56,520 --> 03:48:04,020
section, subsection C of that same section, so there is a window period after new council

3203
03:48:04,020 --> 03:48:06,740
is seated that the city manager may not be removed for that period of time.

3204
03:48:09,370 --> 03:48:09,990
That is correct.

3205
03:48:10,090 --> 03:48:10,370
I apologize.

3206
03:48:10,510 --> 03:48:13,170
Let me clarify that that's only for the city manager and not the city attorney.

3207
03:48:14,070 --> 03:48:14,470
Okay.

3208
03:48:14,690 --> 03:48:18,090
But that's actually not still helping what I just said.

3209
03:48:18,370 --> 03:48:23,690
What I requested so that if, in fact, it's a supermajority that would be voted

3210
03:48:23,690 --> 03:48:24,690
if we vote that in.

3211
03:48:25,390 --> 03:48:28,250
And then another council decides, well, we want to get rid of somebody.

3212
03:48:28,250 --> 03:48:31,630
So, we're going to just, three of us, we're going to vote to change that right now and

3213
03:48:31,630 --> 03:48:32,430
then we get rid of them.

3214
03:48:32,550 --> 03:48:38,910
So, is it a possibility that as part of the ordinance that if a council so chooses to

3215
03:48:38,910 --> 03:48:45,110
change that rule, that it still cannot go into effect after the next election?

3216
03:48:46,970 --> 03:48:49,050
So that it can't be used as a tool.

3217
03:48:50,650 --> 03:48:53,730
The whole point is if we set it up, that it's for a buffer.

3218
03:48:53,730 --> 03:49:01,270
That's a really creative proposal. I would have to look into that because the government

3219
03:49:01,270 --> 03:49:10,670
code, state law is the source of the process for adopting ordinances. So what you're proposing

3220
03:49:10,670 --> 03:49:17,930
is kind of a modification of the procedure, the process for amending an ordinance. And

3221
03:49:17,930 --> 03:49:21,570
And I would have to confirm that that's legally allowed.

3222
03:49:22,150 --> 03:49:27,150
As I said, the government code is the source for how we adopt an ordinance, the two readings.

3223
03:49:27,810 --> 03:49:33,390
It designates certain ordinances that require a supermajority versus a simple majority.

3224
03:49:34,130 --> 03:49:41,710
And what you're proposing might be infringing on that kind of procedural arena that is

3225
03:49:41,710 --> 03:49:43,190
governed by the government code.

3226
03:49:43,710 --> 03:49:44,950
But we can look into that.

3227
03:49:44,950 --> 03:49:48,230
Okay, because otherwise it seemed like a suggestion more than the ordinance

3228
03:49:51,250 --> 03:49:52,370
Yes, so

3229
03:49:52,370 --> 03:50:00,210
Can you remind me am I mistaken aren't there some ordinances that already require or some of the yeah

3230
03:50:00,210 --> 03:50:08,070
We that already require a supermajority to change or to implement correct. Yes a certain like an origin urgency ordinance

3231
03:50:08,070 --> 03:50:10,010
There's also the sales tax measures

3232
03:50:10,010 --> 03:50:15,550
your budget adoption if I'm not mistaken or there's some budget there's

3233
03:50:15,550 --> 03:50:19,750
different council actions that do require a super majority okay but those

3234
03:50:19,750 --> 03:50:23,350
supermajorities are put in place by some other legislative by the government

3235
03:50:23,350 --> 03:50:30,490
code okay all right so thank you so in regards to this so I had I don't want

3236
03:50:30,490 --> 03:50:35,530
to say I had mixed feelings but it's kind of like you want to make sure that

3237
03:50:35,530 --> 03:50:40,690
that your people aren't so protected that they feel like they can do whatever they want,

3238
03:50:40,750 --> 03:50:42,050
but I don't think that that is the case.

3239
03:50:43,030 --> 03:50:49,890
So my feelings are kind of that this would discourage, you know, politics having anything

3240
03:50:49,890 --> 03:50:55,490
to do with the positions, the positions of leadership, and it ensures that there's

3241
03:50:55,490 --> 03:51:02,830
a clear need to change the direction, and would basically allow or force if there's

3242
03:51:02,830 --> 03:51:16,010
a quote-unquote majority to have to plead their case or prove their case to at least one other person before, you know, any change in leadership is, it happens.

3243
03:51:16,490 --> 03:51:24,210
And I think that's really important because I think it's important to, as much as you can, focus on governance as opposed to politics.

3244
03:51:24,210 --> 03:51:30,590
And I really believe that the stability or the perception of stability, it's important

3245
03:51:30,590 --> 03:51:32,910
to us attracting quality employees.

3246
03:51:33,250 --> 03:51:37,570
It's important to us attracting businesses who want to come here.

3247
03:51:37,950 --> 03:51:41,270
You already hear us complaining about why is Manteca and Lathrop and everywhere else

3248
03:51:41,270 --> 03:51:43,970
getting this and things that we're not getting.

3249
03:51:44,290 --> 03:51:45,790
And there's a school of thought on that.

3250
03:51:46,170 --> 03:51:50,910
But I do think that our council is only as good as the majority of the leaders that

3251
03:51:50,910 --> 03:51:51,310
are seated.

3252
03:51:52,590 --> 03:51:59,250
And if in fact there is a need to remove a city manager, that should be clear or city attorney,

3253
03:51:59,390 --> 03:52:00,250
that should be clear.

3254
03:52:00,770 --> 03:52:02,030
It shouldn't be ambiguous.

3255
03:52:02,270 --> 03:52:05,170
It should be something that we can all get on board with.

3256
03:52:05,370 --> 03:52:12,010
The same as when we hire, you know, the best practice and the rule of thumb is that everybody should be on board.

3257
03:52:12,270 --> 03:52:19,250
You know, that it should be, you should go through the proper exercises to make sure that we all agree you don't want to have a city manager hired thinking,

3258
03:52:19,250 --> 03:52:22,630
and well, geez, only three people are willing to work with me.

3259
03:52:22,970 --> 03:52:28,450
So the spirit of this, I think I can definitely get on board

3260
03:52:28,450 --> 03:52:31,750
with because it would cause, if there is a true issue,

3261
03:52:31,870 --> 03:52:37,910
it would cause a fourth person to be shown what that issue is.

3262
03:52:38,050 --> 03:52:40,710
So that's my two cents on that.

3263
03:52:40,850 --> 03:52:44,610
And I feel that we have really good leadership right now

3264
03:52:44,610 --> 03:52:46,470
and we can trust that's not going to be abused.

3265
03:52:46,610 --> 03:52:48,070
And if it were to be abused, then you just need

3266
03:52:48,070 --> 03:52:51,210
to show that to a fourth person, so that's it.

3267
03:52:51,450 --> 03:52:51,610
Thank you.

3268
03:52:52,350 --> 03:52:53,070
Elmer Vargas.

3269
03:52:53,850 --> 03:52:54,570
Thank you, Mayor.

3270
03:52:57,610 --> 03:53:02,970
I understand now the spirit of some of the council members

3271
03:53:02,970 --> 03:53:08,950
that are forth to this, but I do have

3272
03:53:08,950 --> 03:53:11,250
misfeelings in which, in the matter, we got here.

3273
03:53:11,970 --> 03:53:13,970
And a little bit of background for those

3274
03:53:13,970 --> 03:53:16,190
that don't have long memories.

3275
03:53:17,190 --> 03:53:23,910
There have been occasions where we have had city managers, they have not conducted themselves

3276
03:53:24,330 --> 03:53:25,810
in the matter that they should.

3277
03:53:27,410 --> 03:53:36,230
And it was really hard for people to admit that they were doing not the right things.

3278
03:53:36,890 --> 03:53:42,610
And again, I wish I could speak about the matters, but I'm not allowed to disclose information

3279
03:53:42,610 --> 03:53:43,970
of personnel.

3280
03:53:43,970 --> 03:53:53,550
And this is what actually bugs me, is during the grand jury investigation, information,

3281
03:53:54,190 --> 03:53:58,950
obviously, when you read the report, you can tell that some people spoke about things

3282
03:53:58,950 --> 03:54:03,690
that should or not. It was in closed session and it was personal matters.

3283
03:54:04,310 --> 03:54:11,550
And to those that we respect, the oath that we took to remain silent and to keep that private,

3284
03:54:11,550 --> 03:54:22,600
we were criticized for and it was misleading. I'm not opposed to this

3285
03:54:22,600 --> 03:54:28,800
concept. I'm opposed and I'm just not okay in the matter in which I am forced to do

3286
03:54:28,800 --> 03:54:39,000
this. I think grand jury was a use as a weapon to advance on people's

3287
03:54:39,000 --> 03:54:47,920
political views and it was a misuse of taxpayers' dollars and I wish that you

3288
03:54:47,920 --> 03:54:53,220
know things will be different but it's what it is right now and I have the

3289
03:54:53,220 --> 03:54:59,100
ability to move forward to leave things behind and try to just work to better

3290
03:54:59,100 --> 03:55:06,520
our community. With all that being said I am cautioned on this item because I

3291
03:55:06,520 --> 03:55:09,520
I guess I can speak of one city manager

3292
03:55:09,520 --> 03:55:13,580
because I was not a setting council member.

3293
03:55:13,800 --> 03:55:16,160
I'm gonna go back to, as I was a citizen,

3294
03:55:18,260 --> 03:55:21,460
Leon Churchill, and what happened there.

3295
03:55:21,560 --> 03:55:23,280
And I can speak, correct me if I'm wrong,

3296
03:55:23,540 --> 03:55:26,280
I was not a setting council, I was a citizen.

3297
03:55:27,000 --> 03:55:30,120
And to follow the news, to follow what had happened

3298
03:55:30,120 --> 03:55:32,540
and how it ended up all to be,

3299
03:55:35,080 --> 03:55:35,800
are you okay with that?

3300
03:55:37,660 --> 03:55:40,820
I would keep your comments brief.

3301
03:55:41,380 --> 03:55:45,420
The city did enter into a separation agreement with that individual.

3302
03:55:45,940 --> 03:55:48,940
There you go. I'll stop talking about that too, I guess.

3303
03:55:49,580 --> 03:55:55,260
And I wish, you know, this is the part that when you take the seat and you take your job seriously,

3304
03:55:56,600 --> 03:55:58,740
there are things that we cannot share.

3305
03:55:59,540 --> 03:56:01,980
I would love to share them, but I can't.

3306
03:56:02,920 --> 03:56:04,120
And it's unfortunate.

3307
03:56:04,120 --> 03:56:12,520
it. However, I think some people sometimes choose not to see the wrongdoing because it may reflect

3308
03:56:12,520 --> 03:56:24,680
poorly on them. And so they keep giving people opportunities to repeat mistakes. And to convince

3309
03:56:24,680 --> 03:56:32,480
that fourth member sometimes is near too impossible. So I honestly, I think we're okay the

3310
03:56:32,480 --> 03:56:38,080
where we are. But I will be supported of the rest of the council if that's what the majority

3311
03:56:38,080 --> 03:56:42,620
wants to be. I'm happy that we didn't have no troubles recruiting good people.

3312
03:56:45,000 --> 03:56:46,380
It's completely

3313
03:56:46,380 --> 03:56:52,560
the opposite. The grand jury's statements about not being able to recruit good people

3314
03:56:52,560 --> 03:56:59,280
is proven wrong. Right here is the proof. We have not been more stable and with

3315
03:56:59,280 --> 03:57:06,280
better leadership in a long, long time. So, I think the politics maybe change after that

3316
03:57:06,280 --> 03:57:15,360
a little bit, but I don't think our city manager has any problems right now. Our city attorney

3317
03:57:15,360 --> 03:57:24,620
hasn't either. So, I'm comfortable to state as we are, but again, I want to be a team

3318
03:57:24,620 --> 03:57:31,620
player, and if this is going to bring us together, I will concede to support the majority of the

3319
03:57:31,620 --> 03:57:31,960
council.

3320
03:57:33,520 --> 03:57:34,740
A quick question.

3321
03:57:34,960 --> 03:57:35,080
Yes.

3322
03:57:35,880 --> 03:57:43,800
So would this change in the municipal code, would it affect if we were to hire, say,

3323
03:57:44,900 --> 03:57:49,760
I'm looking further than this step, say we have a new city manager or new city attorney,

3324
03:57:49,760 --> 03:57:56,180
would, is there still like a probationary period, or could say we hire someone that we

3325
03:57:56,180 --> 03:58:01,880
have no background on, and if it's not a good fit, will we still have to do four, is there

3326
03:58:01,880 --> 03:58:03,120
any effect there, I'm just curious.

3327
03:58:03,700 --> 03:58:09,000
The city attorney and city manager are both counsel appointed at will positions, so they

3328
03:58:09,000 --> 03:58:12,740
don't serve a probationary period per se because they're at, they are appointed and

3329
03:58:12,740 --> 03:58:14,300
can be removed at the will of counsel.

3330
03:58:15,260 --> 03:58:15,780
Thank you.

3331
03:58:18,300 --> 03:58:22,860
Well, I guess it might turn here, and you

3332
03:58:25,060 --> 03:58:27,020
know, to me it really doesn't matter either

3333
03:58:27,020 --> 03:58:27,300
way.

3334
03:58:27,400 --> 03:58:33,160
However, you know, you keep hearing Councilmember Ransom, you know, speak of politics, politics,

3335
03:58:33,620 --> 03:58:37,560
and it's only politics if you disagree with her point of view.

3336
03:58:38,020 --> 03:58:43,660
And you know, it's just something, it's just been going on and on, but politics plays

3337
03:58:44,220 --> 03:58:45,100
both ways.

3338
03:58:45,100 --> 03:58:50,360
I mean, politics plays when you can keep somebody and politics about getting rid of someone.

3339
03:58:51,260 --> 03:58:56,260
And in regards to our former city manager, and we discussed this before, you know, what

3340
03:58:56,260 --> 03:59:00,100
you can discuss in the public, whether it's been reported in the newspapers, which is

3341
03:59:00,100 --> 03:59:02,000
fair game, go look at it.

3342
03:59:02,700 --> 03:59:07,280
And you know, how many, if you look at, I'm not saying to this individual what,

3343
03:59:24,340 --> 03:59:24,560
how

3344
03:59:24,560 --> 03:59:28,960
All right, and again, you can even get a simple,

3345
03:59:29,120 --> 03:59:30,980
possibly you can even get a simple majority.

3346
03:59:31,800 --> 03:59:33,420
I'm not saying how that's the way anybody voted,

3347
03:59:33,600 --> 03:59:35,600
I'm just saying look at the circumstances,

3348
03:59:36,200 --> 03:59:38,860
and now you wanna get four individuals.

3349
03:59:40,160 --> 03:59:42,800
Keeping somebody, just keep them

3350
03:59:42,800 --> 03:59:43,800
because you're friends with them,

3351
03:59:43,960 --> 03:59:47,260
is just as political as getting rid of somebody.

3352
03:59:47,380 --> 03:59:50,020
Don't kid yourself, and you know,

3353
03:59:50,020 --> 03:59:57,320
and Council Member Ransom referred to the economy or Manteca.

3354
03:59:57,840 --> 03:59:59,980
Go look in the lab.

3355
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:07,780
At three years, what other city is than Tracy? And it's the economic development, the sales

3356
04:00:07,780 --> 04:00:13,460
tax, the property tax, what we've got built, the jobs. We led the whole entire San Joaquin

3357
04:00:13,460 --> 04:00:17,820
County, if not the region. So, I mean, if you're going to infer something, at least

3358
04:00:17,820 --> 04:00:25,760
have some facts. And so, even if, you know, you're referring to how many other cities,

3359
04:00:26,540 --> 04:00:31,420
you know, majority of their cities have a majority and there's a reason for that.

3360
04:00:32,620 --> 04:00:37,820
A simple majority, three. And, you know, to bind a future council.

3361
04:00:38,160 --> 04:00:41,720
And plus, really, if another council comes up and they want to get rid of somebody,

3362
04:00:41,920 --> 04:00:44,320
they can go to an ordinance and change it back to three and then get rid of them.

3363
04:00:44,980 --> 04:00:51,600
You know, so, I mean, I prefer to keep it as three just based on, you know,

3364
04:00:51,600 --> 04:00:56,220
experience of what I've seen and you're talking about conduct which is more

3365
04:00:56,220 --> 04:01:03,420
serious than, you know, some people willing to talk about. Okay, if that

3366
04:01:03,420 --> 04:01:05,580
being said, I'll entertain a motion. I do.

3367
04:01:07,740 --> 04:01:09,740
So some things came up. I heard

3368
04:01:09,740 --> 04:01:13,940
Councilmember Vargas and Mayor Rickman say, you know, the things we could

3369
04:01:13,940 --> 04:01:18,160
talk about and the conduct and I just would like to say that is part of the

3370
04:01:18,160 --> 04:01:24,720
issue is if there were reasons for things that have happened, those things were never disclosed

3371
04:01:24,720 --> 04:01:30,020
to the entire council. And every time it came up to let's talk about these things in public,

3372
04:01:30,240 --> 04:01:35,700
it was we can't disclose those things. So that is why I made the point that it would

3373
04:01:35,700 --> 04:01:44,600
allow or at least require you to be able to prove a case as opposed to three people

3374
04:01:44,600 --> 04:01:49,020
saying, well, this is what we don't like. And whatever conduct you all are speaking about

3375
04:01:49,020 --> 04:01:54,180
or things you're saying you can't talk about that I was never privy to is exactly what makes

3376
04:01:54,180 --> 04:02:01,400
me lean this way. At the end of the day, I'm good with the majority of the whatever the

3377
04:02:01,400 --> 04:02:07,740
majority goes with. It's just really this, fortunately for some other communities, this

3378
04:02:07,740 --> 04:02:12,760
is not necessary. This came out of, and people are talking about the grand jury,

3379
04:02:12,760 --> 04:02:19,640
being politicized or used taxpayers' dollars, 19 individual people from all over this county

3380
04:02:19,640 --> 04:02:26,280
who have no ties to individuals here, at least that I know of, came up with these recommendations.

3381
04:02:26,940 --> 04:02:32,740
So that's, you know, like I said, I'm okay with whatever the will of the majority is.

3382
04:02:32,820 --> 04:02:34,840
One second. She's still on the floor.

3383
04:02:35,780 --> 04:02:39,260
Like I was saying, whatever the will of the majority is on this item. Thank you.

3384
04:02:39,260 --> 04:02:45,460
And just I mean, I know what she just said just counsel. We don't need to rehash what's going on in the past

3385
04:02:46,420 --> 04:02:53,540
It is what it is, but council member or no one there. I'll respect you, you know, it's no need to rehash

3386
04:02:53,540 --> 04:02:54,120
It's only

3387
04:02:55,020 --> 04:02:58,960
Hurts more and it's divide us and I'm trying to move forward together

3388
04:02:58,960 --> 04:03:04,920
I really tried to leave things in the past what happened happened and to have better policy

3389
04:03:04,920 --> 04:03:07,180
and a better way to work together.

3390
04:03:07,980 --> 04:03:09,520
But with that being said,

3391
04:03:10,660 --> 04:03:12,940
I'm comfortable the way we have sense.

3392
04:03:13,140 --> 04:03:14,960
I think we can work together,

3393
04:03:15,160 --> 04:03:18,000
and especially when the entire state of California,

3394
04:03:18,000 --> 04:03:21,560
only a handful of cities have supermajority.

3395
04:03:21,940 --> 04:03:26,580
It's, you know, anyways, hopefully we can get there.

3396
04:03:28,430 --> 04:03:29,780
I think a better question

3397
04:03:29,780 --> 04:03:32,040
than how many have supermajorities

3398
04:03:32,040 --> 04:03:34,400
is how many have actually discussed this,

3399
04:03:34,400 --> 04:03:41,240
And if the majority is the problem and they keep shooting down to have a supermajority,

3400
04:03:41,360 --> 04:03:45,920
I think that would be probably a better look into how many have suggested that I have even

3401
04:03:45,920 --> 04:03:46,800
talked about that.

3402
04:03:46,940 --> 04:03:52,660
I think because of the controversy and even the comments up here regarding this, it shows

3403
04:03:52,660 --> 04:03:55,840
and proves for the need for what's been requested of us.

3404
04:03:56,060 --> 04:04:00,400
Now given the fact that someone can, another counselor just overturn it and use it as

3405
04:04:00,400 --> 04:04:00,760
a weapon.

3406
04:04:00,760 --> 04:04:04,900
I know you're looking you could look into that if the council so goes in that direction

3407
04:04:04,900 --> 04:04:09,740
I think that would be good and what and what we're looking at is not even really for our body

3408
04:04:09,740 --> 04:04:13,760
But it's really I mean because there will be a great change over in in next year

3409
04:04:14,920 --> 04:04:18,020
So just by means of two of us are termed out anyways

3410
04:04:18,020 --> 04:04:24,100
And then we don't know what it will look like so we're actually setting things for the future for future councils

3411
04:04:24,600 --> 04:04:30,620
And so I think that I mean I've already said for all the reasons why I thought that we should

3412
04:04:30,760 --> 04:04:38,540
acknowledge what the grand jury has requested of us and suggested of us based on the uniqueness

3413
04:04:39,360 --> 04:04:45,700
of the challenges that the city of Tracy has had. And so I'm not trying to necessarily

3414
04:04:45,700 --> 04:04:49,700
fall in the line with every other city. We need to do things that are good for our city

3415
04:04:49,700 --> 04:04:53,100
because if we were looking at every other city, a lot of what just happened the last

3416
04:04:53,100 --> 04:04:57,660
few years would have never happened. So that's where we are with that.

3417
04:04:57,660 --> 04:04:58,800
Is this a motion in direction?

3418
04:04:59,200 --> 04:05:01,840
And just real quick, and just to correct,

3419
04:05:02,000 --> 04:05:04,580
councilmember or pro tem, look at the city of Manteca,

3420
04:05:04,860 --> 04:05:07,040
look at the city of Stockton in the last year.

3421
04:05:08,280 --> 04:05:11,380
So this isn't something, getting rid of a city manager

3422
04:05:12,220 --> 04:05:16,200
isn't something that's a nuclear option.

3423
04:05:16,440 --> 04:05:17,740
I mean, it just never happens.

3424
04:05:18,300 --> 04:05:21,680
We had two cities, the largest city in San Joaquin County

3425
04:05:21,680 --> 04:05:24,340
of over 300,000, and we had a city of Manteca,

3426
04:05:24,460 --> 04:05:25,560
our neighbor just do the same.

3427
04:05:25,740 --> 04:05:26,060
Right.

3428
04:05:26,060 --> 04:05:29,520
So I've been on council eight years and this is my fourth city manager

3429
04:05:29,520 --> 04:05:35,520
So that's unique to the cities around us. So it's are we talking about criminal conduct or no?

3430
04:05:35,740 --> 04:05:38,300
I'm just talking about what's happening in our city want to make sure

3431
04:05:39,560 --> 04:05:45,820
So do we need a motion or is this direction? Okay, so and I think so I'm leaning I was

3432
04:05:46,420 --> 04:05:50,140
I was also kind of flexible with this one, but I think after our discussion

3433
04:05:50,140 --> 04:05:55,420
I also support the supermajority vote and I think what's important is in that

3434
04:05:55,420 --> 04:06:01,180
We have that that implicit check-in balance that if any future counsel were to try and overturn this

3435
04:06:02,120 --> 04:06:04,160
They would need to put it in a you know

3436
04:06:04,160 --> 04:06:09,900
It would have to be publicly put on the agenda and they come to the public and the public could then have comment about any future

3437
04:06:09,900 --> 04:06:13,640
Counsel that would try and change this rule if they were trying to politicize it to that point

3438
04:06:13,640 --> 04:06:17,500
So actually kind of like having that check-in balance in there. I think it's very equitable

3439
04:06:17,500 --> 04:06:20,800
so with that I would move that

3440
04:06:21,380 --> 04:06:31,700
We amend the Tracy Municipal Code section 2.08.080 to require a supermajority vote of four members of city council to remove the city manager or city attorney.

3441
04:06:31,860 --> 04:06:32,560
A second.

3442
04:06:34,890 --> 04:06:35,670
Good roll call, please.

3443
04:06:35,870 --> 04:06:36,530
Councilman Marriola?

3444
04:06:36,790 --> 04:06:36,930
Yes.

3445
04:06:37,170 --> 04:06:37,790
May I approach him young?

3446
04:06:37,990 --> 04:06:38,130
Yes.

3447
04:06:38,390 --> 04:06:38,890
Councilman Branson?

3448
04:06:39,130 --> 04:06:39,270
Yes.

3449
04:06:39,730 --> 04:06:40,390
Councilman Vargas?

3450
04:06:42,630 --> 04:06:45,590
And the speed of support in the majority, I'll say yes.

3451
04:06:46,050 --> 04:06:46,530
Mayor Rickman?

3452
04:06:46,870 --> 04:06:47,170
Yes.

3453
04:06:49,610 --> 04:06:50,570
All right,

3454
04:06:57,160 --> 04:06:57,440
move on.

3455
04:06:57,600 --> 04:06:58,360
That's 11 o'clock.

3456
04:06:58,360 --> 04:07:01,460
So do we go do we have two more?

3457
04:07:03,580 --> 04:07:06,700
I know I don't want to push it out again to next year 2020

3458
04:07:06,700 --> 04:07:10,520
So I'd say we stay stay anybody everybody cool with that

3459
04:07:12,660 --> 04:07:17,900
3j consider an ordinance admitting the compensation for the council and mayor in accordance with state law

3460
04:07:19,080 --> 04:07:22,560
Good evening mayor and council. This is a DC to meet us the city attorney

3461
04:07:22,560 --> 04:07:28,760
This item was actually on the agenda at the last council meeting, but was continued due to the late meeting

3462
04:07:29,360 --> 04:07:33,900
This item requests that council consider an ordinance amending the compensation for council

3463
04:07:33,900 --> 04:07:35,540
and mayor in accordance with state law.

3464
04:07:36,040 --> 04:07:41,340
The last time council considered amending the salary for its members was in 2006.

3465
04:07:42,320 --> 04:07:46,860
This item is coming before you because a recently adopted Code of Conduct states that council

3466
04:07:46,860 --> 04:07:48,980
share review salaries every two years.

3467
04:07:49,800 --> 04:07:55,300
Government Code section 36516 establishes the monthly salaries of city council members

3468
04:07:55,300 --> 04:07:57,240
based on the population of cities.

3469
04:07:57,240 --> 04:08:05,260
For a city between, with a population between $75,000 and $150,000, that amount is $600 a month.

3470
04:08:05,860 --> 04:08:12,600
The government code also restricts the annual salary increases to 5% per year since the last adjustment

3471
04:08:12,600 --> 04:08:18,140
and also requires that any changes to salaries not take effect until after an election.

3472
04:08:18,720 --> 04:08:24,720
This means that any changes adopted today would take effect after the November 2020 election.

3473
04:08:24,720 --> 04:08:34,480
Currently, council members receive a monthly salary of $585, the mayor receives an additional $100 a month in recognition of mayoral duties.

3474
04:08:35,520 --> 04:08:41,120
Under the government code, council may increase its salary by an additional $351.

3475
04:08:41,780 --> 04:08:46,720
That is 5% of $585 times 12 years.

3476
04:08:47,020 --> 04:08:50,560
12 years was the last time the salary was adjusted.

3477
04:08:50,560 --> 04:09:03,020
That would increase the monthly total salary to $936 for council, and the mayor would receive an additional $100, which would total $1036.

3478
04:09:04,140 --> 04:09:10,480
Before you is an ordinance that states that the salaries will be increased to the maximum amount allowed by state law.

3479
04:09:10,480 --> 04:09:18,000
However, the options for council are to either take no action or increase the salary up to

3480
04:09:18,000 --> 04:09:20,400
a maximum of $351 a month.

3481
04:09:21,320 --> 04:09:28,060
And any motion to approve such an ordinance should kind of state what the amount, what

3482
04:09:28,060 --> 04:09:29,180
the increase amount is.

3483
04:09:30,000 --> 04:09:31,480
That concludes my staff report.

3484
04:09:31,640 --> 04:09:33,280
I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.

3485
04:09:34,000 --> 04:09:34,780
Thank you.

3486
04:09:35,380 --> 04:09:38,640
We're open up for public commentators and public which address council on this item.

3487
04:09:38,640 --> 04:09:39,480
over

3488
04:09:44,920 --> 04:09:51,000
10 or 13 71 Russia no offense but previous city councils and the current

3489
04:09:51,000 --> 04:09:57,760
city council I believe don't deserve a 5% for every other 12 years you've had

3490
04:09:57,760 --> 04:10:04,540
city staff layoffs in previous years you've had increases in their contracts

3491
04:10:04,540 --> 04:10:09,400
only in some case some cases two and a half to three and a half percent your

3492
04:10:09,400 --> 04:10:17,060
Your 5% contracts were just approved this past year going, I believe it goes until 2022.

3493
04:10:17,940 --> 04:10:23,380
So it's the first time in a long time that the staff has had a 5% increase to my knowledge

3494
04:10:23,380 --> 04:10:26,240
and I've been looking at that for the last 10 years or better.

3495
04:10:27,200 --> 04:10:34,520
I believe that this 5% then taken for 12 years at that should not be done.

3496
04:10:34,520 --> 04:10:41,940
You should take the average of what the percentages are that you gave the staff during that time frame and then work out the

3497
04:10:41,940 --> 04:10:44,900
Increase from that. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Tanner

3498
04:10:45,980 --> 04:10:47,700
No one else Allison

3499
04:10:56,880 --> 04:11:01,100
was Tracy. I echo what Mr. Tanner just said, but I really

3500
04:11:02,060 --> 04:11:06,920
Not everybody on council, but most of the council really don't deserve a raise

3501
04:11:06,920 --> 04:11:10,000
Maybe look at it when we have a new council

3502
04:11:10,000 --> 04:11:13,700
Also, a lot of the council members here, they don't do their homework.

3503
04:11:15,280 --> 04:11:18,800
They don't, and if they do, it doesn't show here.

3504
04:11:19,300 --> 04:11:21,340
They have total disregard to our staff.

3505
04:11:21,960 --> 04:11:24,040
They have opportunities to talk to staff, they have the agenda.

3506
04:11:25,180 --> 04:11:28,280
We're out here, what, to 11, 12, there's been times of one o'clock.

3507
04:11:28,940 --> 04:11:32,120
Council member asked us questions that should have been talked to staff.

3508
04:11:32,920 --> 04:11:36,240
Do your homework, do your work, you serve the community.

3509
04:11:37,480 --> 04:11:42,600
I would say let's review this back in 2022. Let's see what happens.

3510
04:11:43,340 --> 04:11:45,560
Thank you Miss English. Anyone else?

3511
04:11:48,920 --> 04:11:51,460
Seeing no one, who would like to go?

3512
04:11:52,200 --> 04:11:52,660
Oh well.

3513
04:11:53,160 --> 04:11:53,660
Pro Tem.

3514
04:11:54,440 --> 04:11:54,960
Thank you.

3515
04:11:56,660 --> 04:11:57,180
So...

3516
04:11:57,760 --> 04:12:00,640
That's my ransom. You're after her. I've got to get some ransom.

3517
04:12:00,920 --> 04:12:05,180
Okay, so we don't have HR person here.

3518
04:12:05,180 --> 04:12:10,960
I would like to know what has been the staff increases because I know our negotiations have been well beyond five percent

3519
04:12:10,960 --> 04:12:12,020
So what is that?

3520
04:12:12,940 --> 04:12:22,100
So I did ask our HR director what the span of increases were on average over 2012 to 2016 or excuse me 2019

3521
04:12:22,100 --> 04:12:27,160
We I didn't have data going back further and it's on average about two and a half percent

3522
04:12:27,820 --> 04:12:30,340
If you just do the straight math per year

3523
04:12:30,940 --> 04:12:32,200
So, and they vary.

3524
04:12:32,440 --> 04:12:35,960
And it's important to understand that not all employee contracts are created equal.

3525
04:12:36,480 --> 04:12:38,760
Some years they'll get a CPI.

3526
04:12:39,140 --> 04:12:41,560
Some years they may negotiate a bonus.

3527
04:12:42,020 --> 04:12:42,460
It depends.

3528
04:12:42,980 --> 04:12:44,740
So, each year is different.

3529
04:12:44,900 --> 04:12:46,960
But if you want averages, it's about two and a half.

3530
04:12:47,280 --> 04:12:47,560
Okay.

3531
04:12:47,700 --> 04:12:48,540
So that's the averages.

3532
04:12:50,200 --> 04:12:51,680
So not even averages.

3533
04:12:52,100 --> 04:12:53,480
That's since 2012.

3534
04:12:54,940 --> 04:12:58,620
That's the average between 2012 through the current year.

3535
04:12:58,620 --> 04:12:58,680
Sure.

3536
04:12:59,480 --> 04:13:00,040
Okay.

3537
04:13:00,640 --> 04:13:04,720
That looks very different than all of our contracts, things that at least-

3538
04:13:04,720 --> 04:13:06,620
The most recent contract was 4%.

3539
04:13:08,020 --> 04:13:08,580
Okay.

3540
04:13:08,720 --> 04:13:13,120
And then the one before that, because I've only negotiated like maybe like two or something

3541
04:13:13,120 --> 04:13:13,380
like that.

3542
04:13:13,480 --> 04:13:19,920
But we had a lot of things going on with that, but nonetheless I digress.

3543
04:13:20,740 --> 04:13:27,940
So this particular action that's taken tonight, whatever we decide will not take

3544
04:13:27,940 --> 04:13:39,040
effect until January 2021 with the new city council, so it's not this council in any ways,

3545
04:13:39,080 --> 04:13:39,260
right?

3546
04:13:39,580 --> 04:13:40,520
Okay, thank you.

3547
04:13:40,940 --> 04:13:52,660
So, I don't fully think that people understand what it takes to be a council member up here

3548
04:13:52,660 --> 04:13:57,740
and to frivolously insinuate, not even insinuate,

3549
04:13:57,900 --> 04:14:00,620
but to say that different ones do not do their homework.

3550
04:14:01,160 --> 04:14:03,000
I take offense to that for everybody,

3551
04:14:03,000 --> 04:14:05,980
because it takes a lot of work every day

3552
04:14:05,980 --> 04:14:08,980
to actually talk to people,

3553
04:14:09,400 --> 04:14:11,800
to listen to people, to make proactive actions,

3554
04:14:12,080 --> 04:14:14,280
to make this city a better place

3555
04:14:14,860 --> 04:14:16,460
through our volunteerism

3556
04:14:16,460 --> 04:14:19,740
and the transparency of our whole lives

3557
04:14:20,400 --> 04:14:29,560
being out there for for the betterment of our city. So the thing is that it's I've

3558
04:14:29,560 --> 04:14:31,980
had people come to me and try to make an appointment when I talk to me and say

3559
04:14:31,980 --> 04:14:35,140
wait a minute how much do you make five eighty five a month oh my goodness I

3560
04:14:35,140 --> 04:14:39,320
can't even talk to you because it's all the meetings and things that we do they

3561
04:14:39,320 --> 04:14:42,660
don't feel like it's worth my time but it absolutely is because every voice

3562
04:14:42,660 --> 04:14:48,320
doesn't matter here within our city. But for anybody who's sitting up here

3563
04:14:48,320 --> 04:14:53,200
Because as I said, we're voting for people that I may not be here in 2021 because I term

3564
04:14:53,200 --> 04:14:54,740
out next year as council member.

3565
04:14:55,340 --> 04:14:59,840
And so this is looking forward to people who are here to serve.

3566
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:05,340
And I could pull up the other information on 12 years ago when the last increase was given.

3567
04:15:07,300 --> 04:15:11,080
And the different things that were said at that time, because I've read through different

3568
04:15:11,080 --> 04:15:15,700
things and even newspaper reports back then, because it does limit to the different people

3569
04:15:15,700 --> 04:15:20,740
that you put up here. You don't realize the times that for people to have to take

3570
04:15:20,740 --> 04:15:25,260
off work, to have to take time from their family, to have to schedule vacations twice

3571
04:15:25,260 --> 04:15:35,440
twice a month because we have meetings twice a month already and it's not just coming here

3572
04:15:35,440 --> 04:15:38,860
twice a month because all of us are on commissions.

3573
04:15:39,340 --> 04:15:46,680
All of us on commissions that require daytime, 8 a.m., 8.30, 9 a.m., it's doing the afternoon,

3574
04:15:47,220 --> 04:15:52,520
it's doing the evenings, it's more than just coming as a commissioner and even commissioners

3575
04:15:52,520 --> 04:15:55,660
to have to do other work talking to the community.

3576
04:15:56,420 --> 04:15:59,560
So the reality of it is that I think that

3577
04:15:59,560 --> 04:16:01,980
for those who are here serving

3578
04:16:01,980 --> 04:16:05,920
and trying to make sure that our staff is well compensated,

3579
04:16:06,560 --> 04:16:09,980
well beyond, it has the amount in there

3580
04:16:09,980 --> 04:16:11,940
that everybody's combined together.

3581
04:16:12,080 --> 04:16:16,380
It's just a smidgen of what a lot of the salaries

3582
04:16:16,380 --> 04:16:18,160
actually are within our community.

3583
04:16:18,160 --> 04:16:24,200
And we're making, and these seats are making great decisions for our community.

3584
04:16:24,660 --> 04:16:27,640
And I think that we need to honor anybody who's here.

3585
04:16:28,720 --> 04:16:31,520
It's a quote that would say that a workman is worthy of his hire.

3586
04:16:31,840 --> 04:16:39,920
And I think that we and whoever sits in these seats deserve to be compensated fairly.

3587
04:16:40,360 --> 04:16:44,500
There are many other cities that, and if we want to look just at the next one in Stockton,

3588
04:16:45,360 --> 04:16:50,360
What they gave even part-time for their council members is much more than this.

3589
04:16:50,440 --> 04:16:57,040
I know they're a different type of structure, another kind of city, although their district is much smaller than all of us.

3590
04:16:57,580 --> 04:17:06,100
We are at large, so the entire city is our responsibility, each individually and collectively.

3591
04:17:06,660 --> 04:17:15,560
So anyways, I feel that this is absolutely reasonable and it's not asking for a whole lot.

3592
04:17:15,780 --> 04:17:18,100
And it can't be automatically instituted.

3593
04:17:18,220 --> 04:17:22,520
And I know it's a very sensitive topic for different council people to bring up things here.

3594
04:17:22,580 --> 04:17:23,520
And we're not doing cutbacks.

3595
04:17:23,620 --> 04:17:28,180
We have been giving raises still, whether it's 2.5% over the times.

3596
04:17:28,340 --> 04:17:34,080
We haven't cut anything as far as salary since I know in the last eight years that I've been here.

3597
04:17:34,080 --> 04:17:39,370
So anyways, I just wanted to say that it's a lot of work that goes in for all of us and

3598
04:17:41,990 --> 04:17:43,350
Next council member ransom

3599
04:17:44,710 --> 04:17:46,670
Thank you. I just want to be clear

3600
04:17:47,410 --> 04:17:54,830
Did I hear was 2005? I know I've sat in the audience and back in the Evelyn Holber days and heard pros and cons

3601
04:17:55,390 --> 04:18:00,870
Was it 2005 2006 2006 so since 2006

3602
04:18:00,870 --> 04:18:04,790
There's not been an adjustment to the council.

3603
04:18:05,090 --> 04:18:06,630
I really wouldn't even call it compensation.

3604
04:18:06,930 --> 04:18:08,170
It's a small stipend.

3605
04:18:10,270 --> 04:18:13,430
And I just really, I'm not going to take offense.

3606
04:18:13,830 --> 04:18:17,210
I just, maybe people are just ignorant to the work that it takes.

3607
04:18:17,470 --> 04:18:21,290
You heard earlier people talking about, you know, you have an intern.

3608
04:18:21,570 --> 04:18:23,230
You have this task force you're part of.

3609
04:18:23,970 --> 04:18:28,530
I see Mr. Tanner at almost every meeting today at 3 o'clock.

3610
04:18:28,530 --> 04:18:34,050
I was in the fire authority meeting 8 o'clock a.m. on Thursday. I'm in the San Joaquin partnership meeting

3611
04:18:34,050 --> 04:18:36,970
I'm in the DVI meeting I travel

3612
04:18:37,850 --> 04:18:43,430
On behalf of this council and have to be reimbursed and I think I've gotten a reimbursement

3613
04:18:43,430 --> 04:18:48,750
That's as big as $1,200 for money that I've spent out of pocket in order to serve this community

3614
04:18:48,750 --> 04:18:52,270
This is a job that I would do for free. I love doing this job

3615
04:18:52,270 --> 04:18:58,330
done it for free, served this community for free and has given way more to the

3616
04:18:58,330 --> 04:19:02,150
City of Tracy than the City of Tracy has given to me in regards to investment in

3617
04:19:02,150 --> 04:19:07,070
this community. However, with that said, this is not just, this is not about

3618
04:19:07,070 --> 04:19:13,390
this council. This is about what is fair, it's about what, you know, the, our,

3619
04:19:14,190 --> 04:19:19,150
Ms. Ramirez gave us, you know, an example of what normally happens and

3620
04:19:19,150 --> 04:19:23,750
And it's not to say that every year there should be a 5% adjustment.

3621
04:19:24,110 --> 04:19:28,210
There may be a year where the council says, you know, there shouldn't be an adjustment

3622
04:19:28,210 --> 04:19:28,670
this year.

3623
04:19:28,730 --> 04:19:30,710
Maybe it should be 2% or 3%.

3624
04:19:32,030 --> 04:19:37,950
But what I don't want to see is us to discourage really good people.

3625
04:19:38,030 --> 04:19:41,490
There are some people in this community who would be great on this council, who cannot

3626
04:19:41,490 --> 04:19:43,170
afford to be on this council.

3627
04:19:43,350 --> 04:19:46,430
They cannot afford to take all the time that we take off of our day jobs.

3628
04:19:46,430 --> 04:19:53,010
I think every single member of this council, you see the mayor around town in daytime and evening time,

3629
04:19:53,170 --> 04:20:00,850
you see every single member of this council, Councilmember Areola coming back from his lunch, running from Stockton to Tracy, and then back.

3630
04:20:02,630 --> 04:20:10,810
And then to make an assumption that people show up here not prepared because maybe you don't like the questions that they ask,

3631
04:20:10,810 --> 04:20:14,990
when sometimes I believe, I know that I'll speak for myself,

3632
04:20:15,450 --> 04:20:17,910
sometimes it's important to educate the public

3633
04:20:17,910 --> 04:20:19,490
on why you're making your decisions.

3634
04:20:20,390 --> 04:20:22,690
And things evolve as council meetings evolve

3635
04:20:22,690 --> 04:20:25,030
and things come up that you didn't know about earlier,

3636
04:20:25,390 --> 04:20:28,010
and it's important to make the decision based on

3637
04:20:28,010 --> 04:20:29,270
all factual information.

3638
04:20:29,790 --> 04:20:35,090
So I am in support for the reasons that are stated.

3639
04:20:36,910 --> 04:20:39,190
5%, was that 30 bucks, something like that?

3640
04:20:39,190 --> 04:20:46,170
And we're not even at the $600 per month, but...

3641
04:20:46,170 --> 04:20:47,530
It would be five percent.

3642
04:20:48,050 --> 04:20:55,130
So under state law, the increase could be up to five percent times 12 years.

3643
04:20:55,510 --> 04:21:01,650
If we went retroactive, or yeah, I wouldn't recommend that we go retroactive if that's what you're saying.

3644
04:21:02,490 --> 04:21:05,250
I would not say it was $300 and something.

3645
04:21:05,690 --> 04:21:07,730
I'm not saying to go retroactive.

3646
04:21:08,990 --> 04:21:16,250
I don't think no one got on this council thinking I'm going to get a retroactive, you know, 5% for the amount of years.

3647
04:21:16,710 --> 04:21:23,730
But I think moving forward, it makes sense to make the adjustment so that this council can just move forward.

3648
04:21:23,910 --> 04:21:30,230
And this shouldn't even be a discussion. It's not a discussion in most cities and I'm in support of it. Thank you.

3649
04:21:33,290 --> 04:21:37,290
Alright, thank you. So I think related to this item, we need to be very conscientious

3650
04:21:37,290 --> 04:21:41,770
of succession planning. And again, it's been stated before, this is not about this council.

3651
04:21:42,470 --> 04:21:46,650
So I mean, as I look here, I'm literally the only person here not running for office.

3652
04:21:46,930 --> 04:21:51,230
And there actually is a scenario when I could be the only person on council at the

3653
04:21:51,230 --> 04:21:55,910
dice next year. That scenario exists. So I think it's incredibly important that

3654
04:21:55,910 --> 04:21:58,950
we really start looking at our future councils

3655
04:21:59,370 --> 04:22:00,950
and that particular succession planning.

3656
04:22:02,050 --> 04:22:04,910
And I've had the opportunity, you know,

3657
04:22:05,050 --> 04:22:07,030
to travel the country and talk to electives

3658
04:22:07,030 --> 04:22:07,990
from all over the country.

3659
04:22:08,450 --> 04:22:10,810
And the way governance has done other communities

3660
04:22:10,810 --> 04:22:12,490
is very, very different.

3661
04:22:13,150 --> 04:22:15,630
And a lot of the East Coast, even state legislators

3662
04:22:16,050 --> 04:22:16,870
are part time.

3663
04:22:17,390 --> 04:22:19,390
So the whole way that's done can be done

3664
04:22:19,390 --> 04:22:19,990
in different ways.

3665
04:22:20,110 --> 04:22:22,110
But the things that I hear over and over again

3666
04:22:22,690 --> 04:22:24,830
in particular is that for many people

3667
04:22:24,830 --> 04:22:30,690
who would like to serve their communities is that compensation can be a barrier for individuals

3668
04:22:30,690 --> 04:22:35,570
from low income households. And I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I think I'm

3669
04:22:35,570 --> 04:22:40,630
the only person up on council who has never owned a home. And again, I grew up in Tracy

3670
04:22:40,630 --> 04:22:44,850
and I know there's a lot of people here who struggle. I've lived that experience. And

3671
04:22:44,850 --> 04:22:48,090
I think it's so important that we may have people in the community who would like to

3672
04:22:48,090 --> 04:22:53,810
run and serve their communities, but because of those barriers of their economic status,

3673
04:22:53,810 --> 04:23:02,030
They may not have the privilege or ability currently to make that commitment, but a difference of the $354 would allow them

3674
04:23:02,030 --> 04:23:08,610
To provide their opinion and lead this community and really diversify the opinions that we have here because for me

3675
04:23:08,610 --> 04:23:12,290
I think having diversity is incredibly important and I think that

3676
04:23:12,290 --> 04:23:19,140
socioeconomic level diversity is also important. So because of that I would support the $351. Thank you

3677
04:23:22,930 --> 04:23:27,470
Um, I guess I'm the only one. I guess I'm the only one. I would say no.

3678
04:23:28,330 --> 04:23:31,950
And this is a couple of reasons one. A couple of reasons why.

3679
04:23:32,370 --> 04:23:34,870
And, you know, you gotta love, you know, politicians.

3680
04:23:35,810 --> 04:23:40,490
You know, nobody ever says they're politicians, right? It's always something else.

3681
04:23:41,010 --> 04:23:46,850
But, you know, it's never about the money, but then when the money comes up, it's about the money.

3682
04:23:46,850 --> 04:23:54,050
me. You know, I just don't feel this way on this council. I'm a, I was a member or the

3683
04:23:54,050 --> 04:23:59,510
chair of council of governments and I still sit on council of governments. And they voted

3684
04:23:59,510 --> 04:24:05,190
themselves $100 per meeting. I was the only one who voted against it. And I still don't

3685
04:24:05,190 --> 04:24:10,970
take that $100. And the reason being the same, the reason being for that is, you know,

3686
04:24:11,010 --> 04:24:14,890
what I volunteered. I volunteered for that committee. I knew what I was getting

3687
04:24:14,890 --> 04:24:22,350
myself into so knowing that and I would have volunteered either way so I didn't take it.

3688
04:24:22,870 --> 04:24:28,730
And why do people run for office? And to say people aren't going to run for office because

3689
04:24:28,730 --> 04:24:33,970
they're not enough money is ridiculous and you look at the history of the city as people

3690
04:24:33,970 --> 04:24:42,130
always ran for office, yes, is money an option, maybe for some, but 300 bucks, I mean really

3691
04:24:42,130 --> 04:24:47,990
is I going to stop somebody from running? I haven't seen it. Now, why did I run for

3692
04:24:47,990 --> 04:24:53,910
the city? It will run for city council at the time because I love the city. The city

3693
04:24:53,910 --> 04:25:01,190
has gave me more than what I have gave it. That is why I'm here. I'm here because I

3694
04:25:01,190 --> 04:25:08,350
love the city. It's my home. And I thought when I ran for office that I could,

3695
04:25:11,830 --> 04:25:11,830
you

3696
04:25:11,830 --> 04:25:17,850
for not my children, just not just my children, but, you know, generations down

3697
04:25:17,850 --> 04:25:25,930
the line. So that's why I ran. And, you know, you talk about, you know, some money,

3698
04:25:26,050 --> 04:25:31,030
you know, say the money you received right now. And I think it's adequate. I think

3699
04:25:31,030 --> 04:25:37,810
that at least what I use the money for is to, you know, reimburse myself or use it

3700
04:25:37,810 --> 04:25:42,010
for all these different types of functions that I go to that I have to buy

3701
04:25:42,010 --> 04:25:52,480
tickets for I use that money to buy that by those tickets and so and again I do

3702
04:25:52,480 --> 04:26:02,600
have a full-time job that I use to pay the bills and take care of my family and

3703
04:26:02,600 --> 04:26:07,800
I am very fortunate you know I also don't take any insurance from the city

3704
04:26:08,340 --> 04:26:15,220
I probably, I don't take anything. I mean, if you look at some of the trips that, you know,

3705
04:26:16,240 --> 04:26:25,990
I don't know, I won't even get there. But to say that we deserve it, to say that we

3706
04:26:28,460 --> 04:26:28,880
rightfully

3707
04:26:28,880 --> 04:26:33,180
deserve this money and that it would make a better out of job that we could be worked so

3708
04:26:33,180 --> 04:26:38,040
hard. You know what, man? This isn't a tough job. I mean, it's tough in the fact that,

3709
04:26:38,040 --> 04:26:44,060
You know you do take some punishment up here and you know public service and you know you do get but

3710
04:26:44,060 --> 04:26:47,080
You know called out and things but that's part of the job

3711
04:26:47,620 --> 04:26:53,260
You want to go see a tough job go see somebody working out a construction site and put in but be a hammering all day

3712
04:26:53,260 --> 04:26:58,420
That's a tough job. Don't even pretend politicians have it have it rough because they don't

3713
04:26:58,920 --> 04:27:03,800
If you want to see what middle-class hard work looks like it's around us every day

3714
04:27:03,800 --> 04:27:09,940
sure the heck isn't us sitting in this seat at 11.30 at night. We do the best we can and

3715
04:27:10,420 --> 04:27:18,300
I think if more people got in politics, not just for the money, but for the caring of their

3716
04:27:18,300 --> 04:27:24,240
community. I mean, hey, look back into the foundations of our country. You know, you

3717
04:27:24,240 --> 04:27:30,360
would have farmers, a lot more farmers, they would leave, go serve their two years in

3718
04:27:30,360 --> 04:27:34,320
Congress four years in Congress, do their time, come back and go back to farming.

3719
04:27:34,900 --> 04:27:40,700
This shouldn't be a career. And with that being said, I'm against any

3720
04:27:40,700 --> 04:27:46,720
pay raise and I think is adequate for what we can, what we use the money for.

3721
04:27:47,160 --> 04:27:50,120
So that's it. Anyone else?

3722
04:27:50,760 --> 04:27:58,400
I have a question. So for staff, so I know that there's been other people who served on council who

3723
04:27:58,400 --> 04:28:03,420
don't do reimbursements and they don't take stipend and they don't have to so I

3724
04:28:03,420 --> 04:28:06,860
want to make sure that there's something written in there though that just like

3725
04:28:06,860 --> 04:28:11,380
for the Semah King Council of Governments there is something it's

3726
04:28:11,380 --> 04:28:15,800
already stated that you don't have to take it but it's already been

3727
04:28:15,800 --> 04:28:21,080
instituted in in place so that they do give that stipend but you don't have

3728
04:28:21,080 --> 04:28:25,200
to take it so is there something where you don't have to take it or

3729
04:28:25,200 --> 04:28:27,140
or would you just have to give it back if you didn't want it?

3730
04:28:29,710 --> 04:28:33,330
I believe that there's nothing prohibiting a council member

3731
04:28:33,330 --> 04:28:36,170
from declining to receive the stipend.

3732
04:28:37,290 --> 04:28:39,310
Okay, so there's nothing that prohibits it.

3733
04:28:39,370 --> 04:28:42,330
So you can just simply decline it, opt out, right?

3734
04:28:42,890 --> 04:28:45,210
Okay, so that's good.

3735
04:28:45,370 --> 04:28:47,550
So with that, unless there's anything else,

3736
04:28:47,770 --> 04:28:48,830
I'll make a motion.

3737
04:28:49,010 --> 04:28:49,470
Do you wanna say something?

3738
04:28:49,470 --> 04:28:51,150
I haven't had the opportunity to speak at all.

3739
04:28:51,470 --> 04:28:52,730
All right, I didn't say your line on time.

3740
04:28:52,970 --> 04:28:53,530
I apologize, good?

3741
04:28:53,730 --> 04:28:54,330
No, that's okay.

3742
04:28:54,330 --> 04:28:56,010
I just want to,

3743
04:29:00,000 --> 04:29:02,960
I'm honestly, I'm very similar to the mayor.

3744
04:29:04,820 --> 04:29:09,740
I get that we have expenses, we have, you know, things that we do.

3745
04:29:10,580 --> 04:29:18,220
But honestly, I don't think at least some of us haven't got into this job to get reimbursed pay.

3746
04:29:18,820 --> 04:29:23,900
I want to say that it has been a pleasure every day.

3747
04:29:23,900 --> 04:29:26,800
And I am feeling privileged to stay here.

3748
04:29:27,540 --> 04:29:32,380
And I try my best to represent you as best as I can.

3749
04:29:33,080 --> 04:29:37,340
I may not always get it right, but I sure try.

3750
04:29:39,040 --> 04:29:43,100
And I honestly, 300 bucks, 200.

3751
04:29:43,820 --> 04:29:47,220
I'm doing this because I took it in as my service.

3752
04:29:47,540 --> 04:29:49,820
This country has given me an opportunity

3753
04:29:49,820 --> 04:29:51,660
that no other country would have given me.

3754
04:29:52,300 --> 04:29:59,080
I'm honored to be here today. I'm honored to be a citizen. I'm honored to be part of Tracy.

3755
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:05,560
And for me, I don't think it's needed. We're fine.

3756
04:30:07,680 --> 04:30:11,800
Again, if there's extra money, we should save it up for future.

3757
04:30:12,200 --> 04:30:20,020
We're going to have those up and downs in the economy. We're here to serve our community, to volunteer back.

3758
04:30:20,020 --> 04:30:31,520
this is the way I took this job. So for me as a non-needed item and I don't think

3759
04:30:31,520 --> 04:30:37,200
we should just try to take money out of the taxpayers but that is my opinion and

3760
04:30:37,200 --> 04:30:44,820
I will respect the council decisions. I would not be supporting though this item.

3761
04:30:47,580 --> 04:30:51,800
I do. I motion. I do have a motion and I think that I'm council member

3762
04:30:51,800 --> 04:31:00,560
Ariola said it very well as far as barriers that we're trying to help break down to include

3763
04:31:00,560 --> 04:31:06,680
many people who have a love for our city that can't afford to do this job.

3764
04:31:07,080 --> 04:31:10,080
I think you have to have a love to be here for it in the first place.

3765
04:31:10,800 --> 04:31:16,480
But there are other barriers and we're looking beyond just us, but we're looking for others

3766
04:31:16,480 --> 04:31:18,560
that will be coming in the future for our city.

3767
04:31:18,560 --> 04:31:29,940
And so with that, I move that we introduce an ordinance increasing council member monthly salaries by an additional, by an amount, I'm sorry, of $351.

3768
04:31:30,560 --> 04:31:34,140
I would second that, but do we need the clerk to read something?

3769
04:31:34,500 --> 04:31:34,700
Yeah.

3770
04:31:35,360 --> 04:31:35,980
Oh, I'm sorry.

3771
04:31:36,400 --> 04:31:39,020
I'll request the city clerk to read the title of proposed ordinance.

3772
04:31:39,020 --> 04:31:40,140
In

3773
04:31:42,190 --> 04:31:47,710
ordinance of the City of Tracy and Mending Chapter 2.04, City Council organization and

3774
04:31:47,710 --> 04:31:55,930
procedure of Title II administration of the Tracy Municipal Code to add Section 2.04.060,

3775
04:31:56,470 --> 04:31:58,530
Councilmember and Elected Mayor, compensation.

3776
04:31:59,610 --> 04:32:04,570
I move to waive reading of text and introduce the proposed ordinance as already stated.

3777
04:32:05,090 --> 04:32:05,690
Seconded.

3778
04:32:06,450 --> 04:32:07,070
No roll call please.

3779
04:32:07,750 --> 04:32:08,470
Mayor Pro-Chem-Yang.

3780
04:32:08,670 --> 04:32:08,890
Yes.

3781
04:32:09,150 --> 04:32:09,870
Councilmember Areola.

3782
04:32:09,870 --> 04:32:14,430
Yes, I'm sorry to interrupt. Can I get a point of clarification from our attorney?

3783
04:32:15,490 --> 04:32:19,110
Did they need to state the amount or just they didn't oh

3784
04:32:20,030 --> 04:32:29,490
Oh, okay, I said 351 and this takes effect in 2021 for the new council the next council, right?

3785
04:32:29,750 --> 04:32:32,050
Okay. Yes, 2021. Thank you. Yes

3786
04:32:32,050 --> 04:32:32,070
Yes.

3787
04:32:32,810 --> 04:32:33,110
Okay.

3788
04:32:33,630 --> 04:32:34,610
Customer vagus?

3789
04:32:35,150 --> 04:32:35,510
No.

3790
04:32:36,290 --> 04:32:36,810
Mayor Eggman.

3791
04:32:37,030 --> 04:32:37,290
No.

3792
04:32:38,630 --> 04:32:39,290
All right.

3793
04:32:39,350 --> 04:32:45,350
Move on to item 3K, adopt a resolution establishing a 2020 calendar regular City Council meetings

3794
04:32:45,350 --> 04:32:45,930
and workshops.

3795
04:32:46,490 --> 04:32:47,270
The rule called more.

3796
04:32:48,850 --> 04:32:49,410
Staff report.

3797
04:32:50,030 --> 04:32:51,350
You said that twice, didn't I?

3798
04:32:51,770 --> 04:32:52,070
I know.

3799
04:32:52,590 --> 04:32:52,930
Hand, hand.

3800
04:32:54,010 --> 04:32:56,570
Good evening, Mayor and City Councilor Adrian Richardson again.

3801
04:32:56,570 --> 04:33:03,290
In accordance with Tracey Municipal Code 2.04.020, regular meetings of the Council shall be held

3802
04:33:03,290 --> 04:33:07,570
at 7pm on the first and third Tuesday of each month in the Council Chambers.

3803
04:33:08,010 --> 04:33:11,410
Special meetings and workshops may be called by the City Manager, Mayor or a majority

3804
04:33:11,410 --> 04:33:12,070
of the Council.

3805
04:33:13,210 --> 04:33:17,430
The City Council may also schedule special meetings and workshops as it deems necessary

3806
04:33:17,430 --> 04:33:21,890
with dates adopted as part of an annual calendar or announced in accordance with

3807
04:33:21,890 --> 04:33:26,370
all legal requirements. Adopting a meeting calendar allows for proper agenda planning

3808
04:33:26,370 --> 04:33:31,950
and can provide for recess periods, holidays or election days. The resolution attached

3809
04:33:31,950 --> 04:33:37,370
to your staff report includes a 2020 calendar of regular City Council meetings. The calendar

3810
04:33:37,370 --> 04:33:42,350
also includes an extra special meeting workshop on the 4th Tuesday of each month at 7pm.

3811
04:33:42,970 --> 04:33:47,290
This alternative was included for council consideration, given the impact of scheduling

3812
04:33:47,290 --> 04:33:51,930
special meetings and or workshops immediately prior to regularly scheduled council meetings.

3813
04:33:52,630 --> 04:33:57,410
Oftentimes our community population cannot attend meetings that are scheduled prior to 7 o'clock.

3814
04:33:58,330 --> 04:34:02,250
In addition, the extra meeting can be used to take action on items that have been

3815
04:34:02,250 --> 04:34:07,070
continued or carried over from a previous council meeting or require further policy discussion

3816
04:34:07,070 --> 04:34:13,010
because of their complex nature. If the additional meeting is not necessary, the meeting can be cancelled.

3817
04:34:14,930 --> 04:34:19,830
has cancelled certain meetings given conflicts with state and local events of importance such

3818
04:34:19,830 --> 04:34:25,070
as elections, national night out and during holiday periods to eliminate the need to prepare

3819
04:34:25,070 --> 04:34:30,510
and publish an agenda. Council typically takes action on such cancellations a meeting or

3820
04:34:30,510 --> 04:34:35,170
two before the date of that scheduled meeting. The proposed calendar includes cancelling

3821
04:34:35,170 --> 04:34:40,830
the following three regular meetings. January 7, 2020, for a holiday period there are

3822
04:34:40,830 --> 04:34:47,030
currently no urgent agenda item scheduled, March 3, 2020, primary election day, August

3823
04:34:47,030 --> 04:34:53,130
4, 2020, national night out. Additionally, if it is Council's desire, the resolution

3824
04:34:53,130 --> 04:34:59,030
can be amended to add the cancellation of the November 3, 2020 regular meeting due

3825
04:34:59,800 --> 04:35:04,410
to the general election. If Council prefers not to cancel these meetings at this time,

3826
04:35:04,550 --> 04:35:08,750
the proposed calendar can be amended to reflect that desire. It is recommended that

3827
04:35:08,750 --> 04:35:12,670
Council will consider adopting a resolution establishing a 2020 calendar of

3828
04:35:12,670 --> 04:35:15,730
regular City Council meetings and workshops and that concludes my report.

3829
04:35:16,590 --> 04:35:20,230
Thank you. All right I'm going to open up for public comment. Anybody from the

3830
04:35:20,230 --> 04:35:22,430
public who wishes to address Council? Mobile means.

3831
04:35:29,650 --> 04:35:30,770
Henry Cole, Tracy

3832
04:35:30,770 --> 04:35:35,490
resident. I just wish to urge the Council to cancel the November 3rd

3833
04:35:35,490 --> 04:35:38,290
meeting for the general election. Thank you. Thank you.

3834
04:35:42,120 --> 04:35:42,760
Anyone else?

3835
04:35:44,280 --> 04:35:44,680
All

3836
04:35:47,080 --> 04:35:51,640
right, so no one, bring it back to Council for discussion, Councilman Ariel, you have

3837
04:35:51,640 --> 04:35:52,140
your light on.

3838
04:35:52,460 --> 04:35:55,980
Oh, yeah, I would just be, I would be in support of cancelling November 3rd one.

3839
04:35:56,200 --> 04:35:58,500
And then I had a question for a city manager.

3840
04:35:59,220 --> 04:36:03,700
So this would in effect make it such that we would have three meetings a month.

3841
04:36:04,200 --> 04:36:07,780
And I know a lot of other cities, including in the region, only have one city council

3842
04:36:07,780 --> 04:36:09,840
meeting a month, even for cities that are larger than us.

3843
04:36:09,840 --> 04:36:16,560
So have we assessed how many cities do meetings three times a month?

3844
04:36:17,200 --> 04:36:23,260
So there's a number of cities that use this method as a placeholder just in case they needed,

3845
04:36:23,440 --> 04:36:24,560
and then they canceled the meeting.

3846
04:36:25,220 --> 04:36:30,100
Livermore is an example of that where they hold a regular extra third meeting a month

3847
04:36:30,100 --> 04:36:33,000
in case they have workshops, special meeting needs,

3848
04:36:33,660 --> 04:36:36,240
and typically they will cancel it if it's not needed.

3849
04:36:36,300 --> 04:36:37,460
So they're not wed to it.

3850
04:36:37,460 --> 04:36:42,820
This is just a tool to help counsel be a little bit more efficient with their time if they have carryover items

3851
04:36:43,460 --> 04:36:47,940
It's purely counsel's discretion if they want to choose to do this or not. It's just an option for you

3852
04:36:48,580 --> 04:36:49,280
Thank you.

3853
04:36:52,360 --> 04:36:56,380
Well, okay. I well I am in support of November 3rd

3854
04:36:56,380 --> 04:36:58,880
Just as it just as a point of reference

3855
04:36:58,880 --> 04:37:04,440
I'm assuming that when the one voice trip come up as far as the trick if we do a city one voice

3856
04:37:04,440 --> 04:37:06,100
We'll just be adding that on as

3857
04:37:06,660 --> 04:37:07,980
That's needed if needed

3858
04:37:08,820 --> 04:37:11,580
So we don't have any proposed outlook for that yet.

3859
04:37:12,300 --> 04:37:14,840
We'll be taking that to you probably in February.

3860
04:37:15,640 --> 04:37:15,840
Okay.

3861
04:37:16,640 --> 04:37:20,240
So for the ones, I agree with all the ones that are listed.

3862
04:37:21,200 --> 04:37:25,380
I do have concern for putting three nights a week,

3863
04:37:25,520 --> 04:37:27,260
even if it's just as needed,

3864
04:37:27,360 --> 04:37:31,100
but it still becomes ingrained as a part of Reservation for People's Lives

3865
04:37:32,280 --> 04:37:35,360
and family trips and things like that.

3866
04:37:35,360 --> 04:37:38,320
It's just it's just much more to coordinate because we're looking at

3867
04:37:39,640 --> 04:37:42,520
Not just here, but for future councils coming on

3868
04:37:43,260 --> 04:37:48,840
So I think I think it's a lot. I know that we want to be cognizant of time

3869
04:37:48,840 --> 04:37:52,900
As far as workshops and things like that bringing it earlier in the day

3870
04:37:52,900 --> 04:37:57,820
And so is that really the reason why we're looking at another day instead of just continuing?

3871
04:37:58,580 --> 04:38:04,460
You know or maybe because I know on my calendar have blocked out 5 5 p.m. To midnight every

3872
04:38:05,080 --> 04:38:09,240
twice a month already so I know not to schedule anything before that but I mean

3873
04:38:09,240 --> 04:38:14,240
I could move it back but because there's different there's different reasons

3874
04:38:14,240 --> 04:38:16,600
there's some that say they need to get off work and be here and there's some that

3875
04:38:16,600 --> 04:38:19,640
said they can't stay up late like this and they need to be here earlier so

3876
04:38:19,640 --> 04:38:23,100
they because they go to bed at 8 o'clock so again it's it's counsel's

3877
04:38:23,100 --> 04:38:27,260
discretion you know oftentimes we'll start a meeting at have closed

3878
04:38:27,260 --> 04:38:30,980
session at 5 and then go into a special meeting at 6 and then we're

3879
04:38:30,980 --> 04:38:36,560
still here till 12. So again, it's just a tool for council's discretion. If it doesn't

3880
04:38:36,560 --> 04:38:40,920
work for the council, then we don't use it. Or we can completely eliminate it from the

3881
04:38:40,920 --> 04:38:43,500
calendar. It's, again, just food for thought.

3882
04:38:45,620 --> 04:38:49,480
Okay. And there was one other suggestion that I brought up, because Mr. Evans, I think,

3883
04:38:49,520 --> 04:38:54,800
has brought it up several times. As far as on weekends, our daytime things. And

3884
04:38:54,800 --> 04:38:59,020
I know some councils, because they're full-time, and they're already at City Hall, and

3885
04:38:59,020 --> 04:39:03,920
have it during the daytime. So I don't know if there was any other consideration to set

3886
04:39:03,920 --> 04:39:09,620
aside something that's within that Tuesday, one of our Tuesday time frames, a different

3887
04:39:09,620 --> 04:39:11,240
day, but maybe that same week.

3888
04:39:12,180 --> 04:39:16,460
Yeah, council could certainly entertain a different day and a different time. Absolutely.

3889
04:39:17,560 --> 04:39:22,960
And those are just for thought to be out. I wouldn't recommend three Tuesdays of our

3890
04:39:22,960 --> 04:39:25,400
month or any council months being set aside.

3891
04:39:27,400 --> 04:39:40,840
Thank you. So I think it's ironic that this is the next agenda item when we talk about like our commitment to this community and I do appreciate what you're trying to do.

3892
04:39:41,500 --> 04:39:53,880
I just wonder if we can at least limit the extra meeting to three hours or because it seems like this is a cleanup meeting or you know this is an opportunity to catch things that we might need to,

3893
04:39:54,520 --> 04:39:58,940
that have got left hanging because maybe the meeting went over and we need to counsel it.

3894
04:39:59,620 --> 04:40:07,780
As mentioned earlier, we have all these different commitments for this council in addition to the different committees that we serve on, closed sessions,

3895
04:40:07,940 --> 04:40:13,700
special meetings, workshops, which we've been having a lot because we've got a lot of things of heavy lift that we're trying to catch up on.

3896
04:40:14,100 --> 04:40:20,880
And so I do appreciate that you have a calendar in mind and you want to keep us on track to hit the goals that we want.

3897
04:40:20,880 --> 04:40:25,960
But is it possible that we if we do decide the council majority wants to move in this manner

3898
04:40:25,960 --> 04:40:33,240
Can we limit those meetings to three hours because we already plan vacations and family time and everything around these meetings?

3899
04:40:33,840 --> 04:40:39,300
So that would be my request if that's a desire of the consensus of council absolutely

3900
04:40:41,640 --> 04:40:45,220
Thank you mayor, I think tennis to choose get there quickly

3901
04:40:45,220 --> 04:40:50,740
we should limit ourselves on how much we speak so we can just eliminate the

3902
04:40:50,740 --> 04:40:55,520
meetings all together and do the business at hand on the two days that we have

3903
04:40:55,520 --> 04:41:00,180
assigned per month. The problem is that we are not finishing the agendas because

3904
04:41:00,180 --> 04:41:09,920
some of us speak for 45 minutes and so our agendas are going until midnight. So

3905
04:41:09,920 --> 04:41:10,200
So,

3906
04:41:12,510 --> 04:41:18,110
I see what our CD manager is doing here and hopefully this is a wake-up call that

3907
04:41:18,110 --> 04:41:22,470
we are needing that third meeting because we are talking too much.

3908
04:41:25,650 --> 04:41:27,950
Hey, we just give ourselves a raise.

3909
04:41:28,470 --> 04:41:32,930
They should just give more money, you know, the public should give what they ask for.

3910
04:41:34,970 --> 04:41:37,170
I think this is a lot.

3911
04:41:37,170 --> 04:41:47,770
But I think we should just really look into limiting ourselves how long we speak.

3912
04:41:50,410 --> 04:41:57,670
But if it's what is needed to have the job at hand to completion, I guess we're having

3913
04:41:57,670 --> 04:41:58,190
more meetings.

3914
04:41:59,430 --> 04:42:02,050
Yes, thank you.

3915
04:42:02,810 --> 04:42:07,090
I just think it's really difficult to commit three weeks out of a month.

3916
04:42:07,090 --> 04:42:11,970
I mean, for me, I'm just thinking for my job in particular, I'm a trial attorney.

3917
04:42:12,270 --> 04:42:15,430
I'm in trial once or twice a month, sometimes for weeks at a time,

3918
04:42:15,510 --> 04:42:18,030
and it's been difficult to make those while I'm here,

3919
04:42:18,170 --> 04:42:20,210
because sometimes I'm working 12 to 16-hour days.

3920
04:42:20,810 --> 04:42:23,230
I know it's only relevant to myself,

3921
04:42:23,390 --> 04:42:26,530
but it's easier for me because I've already committed every other Tuesday

3922
04:42:26,530 --> 04:42:27,910
to come a few hours earlier.

3923
04:42:29,210 --> 04:42:32,570
So I would prefer to continue the practice of having a special meeting

3924
04:42:32,570 --> 04:42:34,390
prior to our earlier meeting,

3925
04:42:34,390 --> 04:42:37,450
because it's easier to schedule at least my work schedule.

3926
04:42:37,610 --> 04:42:40,230
I don't have a family, the rest of the council does,

3927
04:42:40,470 --> 04:42:44,350
so I imagine that that takes a huge priority for you,

3928
04:42:44,470 --> 04:42:47,110
but for me, I would prefer to have special meetings

3929
04:42:47,110 --> 04:42:49,250
and workshops before the Tuesday meetings.

3930
04:42:51,150 --> 04:42:53,590
I'll second that, because honestly,

3931
04:42:53,870 --> 04:42:55,590
it's not feasible for me.

3932
04:42:55,710 --> 04:42:56,730
I have a full-time job.

3933
04:42:57,070 --> 04:42:58,830
I cannot come in the middle of the day.

3934
04:42:59,630 --> 04:43:02,590
During the day, I have to work.

3935
04:43:02,590 --> 04:43:07,770
Some of us have jobs and obligations from, you know,

3936
04:43:08,590 --> 04:43:11,650
seven in the morning until five o'clock afternoon.

3937
04:43:11,650 --> 04:43:17,130
Even to get here at five o'clock after a 12, 14 hours worth of work

3938
04:43:17,130 --> 04:43:18,650
and commuting is not easy.

3939
04:43:19,410 --> 04:43:24,770
So I honestly really, I think we should just look again

3940
04:43:24,770 --> 04:43:31,800
into time that we allow ourselves to speak to shorten our meetings.

3941
04:43:33,680 --> 04:43:39,840
We've been trying to do that and it's been a huge opposition, but we cannot, if the pleasure

3942
04:43:39,840 --> 04:43:43,520
is not to add a third meeting, we need to do something different.

3943
04:43:44,260 --> 04:43:50,540
But I agree with Councilman Ariola on adding the third day is just too hard.

3944
04:43:51,240 --> 04:43:51,720
Potem?

3945
04:43:52,120 --> 04:43:52,580
Yes.

3946
04:43:52,740 --> 04:43:53,020
Thank you.

3947
04:43:53,200 --> 04:43:57,860
So that was my original suggestion that we just continue to do it on the same day

3948
04:43:57,860 --> 04:44:01,120
because it's much easier for me as well.

3949
04:44:01,120 --> 04:44:07,420
But not just for me, but I think for future councils as they're planning their their times and their schedules to just do that

3950
04:44:07,420 --> 04:44:13,480
But it's not just I just I do want to speak real quickly. Just it's not just the speech of people

3951
04:44:14,180 --> 04:44:17,760
On the council because the next council will have to grapple with that

3952
04:44:17,760 --> 04:44:25,140
But it's also the number of items that we have and the number of things that's been brought to the council for us to

3953
04:44:25,140 --> 04:44:26,320
Discuss we're a growing city

3954
04:44:26,320 --> 04:44:30,940
we have a lot of items that comes before us. And a few years ago, we had meetings like

3955
04:44:30,940 --> 04:44:36,500
several, a couple of meetings every single week. And so I think it's important that we're

3956
04:44:36,500 --> 04:44:42,700
looking at the content of our agenda as well. So that would help limit what, how much time

3957
04:44:42,700 --> 04:44:43,140
we're spending.

3958
04:44:43,820 --> 04:44:51,560
Can I just remember to answer me or something? No, I'm sorry. Okay, for me, no. I don't

3959
04:44:51,560 --> 04:44:53,400
I'll take and explain it to you.

3960
04:44:56,460 --> 04:44:57,240
What about the days?

3961
04:44:58,400 --> 04:44:59,900
I mean we have...

3962
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:10,080
You know, we can get the, it's been like this for always. You know, we haven't had a problem finishing our agenda until, what, two, three years ago.

3963
04:45:10,400 --> 04:45:16,960
And it's, I mean, hey, watch, you know, watch the meeting tonight and look how much downtime we have.

3964
04:45:17,120 --> 04:45:21,680
Look how much stuff is, you know, we're not, we're talking about agenda, but we're going off on tangents.

3965
04:45:21,680 --> 04:45:40,480
And that's the reason these council meetings are so long and council or city manager, you know, we discuss this, too, is that, you know, the farther we get behind the more we put on the agenda, you know, the longer we stay up here or we can't even finish it.

3966
04:45:40,480 --> 04:45:50,320
And it comes to a point that as a city manager when you're going to do the agenda item, you know how this council is.

3967
04:45:50,760 --> 04:45:59,900
And if you want to stay at 11 o'clock every single night or midnight every night, you know, keep doing what you're exactly doing because we will be here.

3968
04:46:00,540 --> 04:46:02,160
And these items are difficult.

3969
04:46:02,160 --> 04:46:08,260
and you know and when we talked about time limits and that thing that I feel

3970
04:46:08,260 --> 04:46:12,500
bad for is I mean you look at our city clerk she has to double back here at

3971
04:46:12,500 --> 04:46:17,000
7 a.m. you know is it fair to her because we can't stay on topic or we're

3972
04:46:17,000 --> 04:46:25,460
going off so if we have to do something you know like a special meeting or you

3973
04:46:25,460 --> 04:46:30,180
know we you can pull the council like we've we've have and then council can

3974
04:46:30,180 --> 04:46:33,980
come to an agreement what date that that would be and I think that's worked in

3975
04:46:33,980 --> 04:46:40,860
the past I think it continues to work but you know it is what it is so with

3976
04:46:40,860 --> 04:46:45,180
that being said I'll entertain a motion I would move to adopt a resolution

3977
04:46:45,180 --> 04:46:48,200
establishing the 2020 calendar of regular city council meetings and

3978
04:46:48,200 --> 04:46:56,420
workshops with the exception of the November 3rd meeting and removing the

3979
04:46:56,420 --> 04:47:01,360
removing the November 3rd regular meeting and also removing the fourth Tuesday

3980
04:47:01,360 --> 04:47:07,920
proposed special meeting workshop dates. I'll second that motion. Take a pic of

3981
04:47:07,920 --> 04:47:12,800
Council Member Vargas or Council Member Anson. Yeah I'm just not sure about

3982
04:47:12,800 --> 04:47:15,320
the November thing I thought we were adding it to the list could you say

3983
04:47:15,320 --> 04:47:19,080
excluding it as a regular? It's the general election right now and so we've

3984
04:47:19,080 --> 04:47:22,280
already removed the primary but we haven't removed the general so it's

3985
04:47:22,280 --> 04:47:25,120
currently on the list we're removing it that was my motion. Council the

3986
04:47:25,120 --> 04:47:30,480
meeting that we're good yeah so canceling it just adding the as it as a

3987
04:47:30,480 --> 04:47:33,380
list of the cancellation okay councilmember area local police yes

3988
04:47:33,380 --> 04:47:38,320
councilmember rinsen yes I'm from your vagus me a protein young yes I may

3989
04:47:38,320 --> 04:47:41,940
recommend yes right item number four I'm from the audience anybody wish to

3990
04:47:41,940 --> 04:47:46,960
address council on any items that were on the agenda or I am from the

3991
04:47:46,960 --> 04:47:54,350
audience sorry Adrian I was English I just want to make a comment I made the

3992
04:47:54,350 --> 04:48:02,970
statement earlier at the public audience that something happened October 15th that Nancy

3993
04:48:02,970 --> 04:48:10,670
Young just went on record about releasing ransom. I'm sorry, so was she not receiving money when

3994
04:48:10,670 --> 04:48:15,570
she was counseled. So I went on record on that because to clarify and that's why I turned

3995
04:48:15,570 --> 04:48:20,730
in that paperwork, nothing else. And it has nothing to do with being political or anything

3996
04:48:20,730 --> 04:48:26,050
because this is what they do after the audience speak then they have to come

3997
04:48:26,050 --> 04:48:30,510
back and I'm I feel bad for our city attorney because when they go on

3998
04:48:30,510 --> 04:48:35,110
tangents it should have been stopped because it has nothing to do with Mayor

3999
04:48:35,110 --> 04:48:40,090
Rickman or Councilwoman Vargas has nothing to do with this these things

4000
04:48:40,090 --> 04:48:45,130
has been ongoing and when I make a statement it's always a personal tax

4001
04:48:45,130 --> 04:48:53,350
or is this? Everything that I've come up here since the Mayor's Fund is on record and also

4002
04:48:53,350 --> 04:49:01,170
to go on record, I never pulled the PNR, PRA, okay? And when my husband heard about the

4003
04:49:01,170 --> 04:49:09,490
Mayor's Fund going $300,000, $375,000, $425,000, actually when that was pulled, that's when

4004
04:49:09,490 --> 04:49:12,590
so-seed, so-seed, so-seed, so-seed was on there.

4005
04:49:12,630 --> 04:49:15,410
And that's when I came up on February 20, 2018.

4006
04:49:15,950 --> 04:49:17,790
And when I did that two days later,

4007
04:49:19,190 --> 04:49:21,390
Councilwoman Ransom put a grand jury report

4008
04:49:22,070 --> 04:49:23,930
on me and two other members.

4009
04:49:24,490 --> 04:49:26,710
So this is the thing, bullying people,

4010
04:49:27,190 --> 04:49:29,070
doing things and saying it's political.

4011
04:49:30,210 --> 04:49:33,270
From day one, Councilwoman Ransom has made

4012
04:49:33,270 --> 04:49:34,350
a lot of things political.

4013
04:49:34,650 --> 04:49:36,910
Attacking Councilwoman Vargas, our mayor,

4014
04:49:37,130 --> 04:49:37,850
our city manager,

4015
04:49:37,850 --> 04:49:40,090
when things didn't go her direction,

4016
04:49:40,270 --> 04:49:42,330
not only just me, but other audience.

4017
04:49:42,690 --> 04:49:44,090
So I know there was a code of conduct,

4018
04:49:44,610 --> 04:49:48,110
but it hasn't been heard here because they repeat themselves

4019
04:49:48,110 --> 04:49:49,470
or they attack the audience.

4020
04:49:49,790 --> 04:49:53,230
And as far as calling Councilwoman Yang, Mayor Pro Tem,

4021
04:49:53,870 --> 04:49:54,350
I don't.

4022
04:49:54,930 --> 04:49:57,750
I have no respect for somebody that sits on the diocese

4023
04:49:57,750 --> 04:50:00,170
that lies, lies about a T-shirt,

4024
04:50:00,610 --> 04:50:03,610
makes alleged false police reports.

4025
04:50:04,370 --> 04:50:07,210
I address the council, I come up here and mayor,

4026
04:50:07,210 --> 04:50:10,710
and I did it for Mayor Pro Tem Vargas when she was there.

4027
04:50:10,810 --> 04:50:13,250
She conducted herself at the diocese.

4028
04:50:13,370 --> 04:50:15,990
When I, if people, and as a matter of fact,

4029
04:50:16,070 --> 04:50:17,690
the first grant report said,

4030
04:50:18,150 --> 04:50:19,910
council, you earn your respect.

4031
04:50:20,310 --> 04:50:21,550
You don't demand respect.

4032
04:50:22,590 --> 04:50:25,810
So when people come up here and you don't want to hear

4033
04:50:25,810 --> 04:50:27,810
what somebody says, you come up with their names

4034
04:50:27,810 --> 04:50:30,050
and you personally attack the audience.

4035
04:50:30,530 --> 04:50:32,830
So as far as the code of conduct that you guys have,

4036
04:50:33,190 --> 04:50:36,190
you, on this side, it doesn't adhere to it.

4037
04:50:36,190 --> 04:50:39,970
It never has and it won't but if you praise him, it's something different

4038
04:50:39,970 --> 04:50:42,630
But I did go on record that

4039
04:50:43,010 --> 04:50:44,290
So it see did apply

4040
04:50:44,290 --> 04:50:52,590
2017-2018 and I did turn that in that's when I went on a record because it was stated incorrect on October 15th

4041
04:50:53,270 --> 04:50:56,450
And no disrespect to counsel woman Vargas when she was up here

4042
04:50:56,450 --> 04:51:02,570
I used to address her mayor potem when she took your place when you couldn't present certificates mr.

4043
04:51:02,570 --> 04:51:07,510
Mayor, it was done publicly and it was done right, and the city was represented right

4044
04:51:07,510 --> 04:51:14,310
in both councils and in public galas, different things I've gone to.

4045
04:51:14,570 --> 04:51:16,150
I have not seen that from this side.

4046
04:51:16,850 --> 04:51:23,130
So I just want to say that some of these statements that are done here is incorrect.

4047
04:51:23,530 --> 04:51:26,590
Has been political, it has always been political.

4048
04:51:27,450 --> 04:51:32,490
When they did the home task force, when George party was here, and I didn't bring

4049
04:51:32,490 --> 04:51:35,970
it because I have a lot of binders and a lot of information with that. It was political.

4050
04:51:36,490 --> 04:51:41,430
They said, Democrat Party, come and support your Democrat Party. Not come and listen to

4051
04:51:41,430 --> 04:51:46,470
the homeless task force. All of everything that I say here is documented. It's not a tax.

4052
04:51:46,690 --> 04:51:52,790
It's all facts. So I just want to say that. Sorry. It's time to go to bed. Merry Christmas

4053
04:51:52,790 --> 04:51:53,730
and Happy New Year.

4054
04:51:54,430 --> 04:51:56,430
Thank you, Mrs. English. Anyone else?

4055
04:52:03,430 --> 04:52:11,710
Yolanda Makanya, Tracy, California. I had a couple of things. One is I don't know all

4056
04:52:11,710 --> 04:52:17,950
the cities that do it, but I think Tracy might look into it. It might broaden and diversify

4057
04:52:17,950 --> 04:52:25,390
our council. Some cities have, like if this city is broken up into beats or different

4058
04:52:25,390 --> 04:52:30,190
sections that it pulls their council members from those sections to

4059
04:52:30,190 --> 04:52:38,390
properly represent those communities. I feel that certain areas of Tracey are

4060
04:52:38,390 --> 04:52:48,750
being under-served, under-represented. As a citizen I would encourage council

4061
04:52:48,750 --> 04:52:53,630
members to come out to the different areas of Tracey, go to the different

4062
04:52:53,630 --> 04:52:57,730
parks, walk the streets, look at all the graffiti, look at all the homeless

4063
04:52:57,730 --> 04:53:08,430
encampments, look at all the garbage near the railroads, and really put

4064
04:53:08,430 --> 04:53:15,570
yourself in the in the citizens who live in that area's shoes and think about

4065
04:53:15,570 --> 04:53:19,630
if I were walking my kids in this area would I feel comfortable, would I feel

4066
04:53:19,630 --> 04:53:25,130
safe and it's why I just I think there's certain parts of Tracy that are being

4067
04:53:25,130 --> 04:53:28,030
very underrepresented represented.

4068
04:53:31,690 --> 04:53:36,630
Oh for code enforcement I've found it very

4069
04:53:36,630 --> 04:53:43,990
frustrated frustrating to call with complaints and they demand addresses.

4070
04:53:43,990 --> 04:53:50,490
is. Certain parts of the city, you wouldn't feel comfortable getting out and trying to

4071
04:53:50,490 --> 04:53:54,770
look for an address. The neighbors come out and what are you doing, why are you looking

4072
04:53:54,770 --> 04:54:01,530
up my address? And so it's hard to come out with an address to give to them. I think

4073
04:54:01,530 --> 04:54:05,630
it's absurd that we have to do that as a citizen. I think I should be able to just

4074
04:54:05,630 --> 04:54:11,870
call and say, hey, in this general vicinity, three houses for me, I'm at 410 Palm Circle,

4075
04:54:11,870 --> 04:54:16,310
whatever the case may be. Can you please send someone out here to take a look at some of these violations?

4076
04:54:16,870 --> 04:54:23,570
I think it's fair that they do their job and that they come out and do that. I would also

4077
04:54:23,570 --> 04:54:32,430
encourage the city to look at their code enforcement policies regarding storing non-ops,

4078
04:54:33,790 --> 04:54:41,190
RVs, trailers, and so forth. I was kind of shocked that we don't have something in place

4079
04:54:41,190 --> 04:54:48,390
where my neighbor could store their non-op RV and just have it filled with junk,

4080
04:54:48,850 --> 04:54:53,850
as well as weeds growing underneath it and all this other stuff. I think that

4081
04:54:53,850 --> 04:55:02,070
policy needs to be looked at and updated. I also would encourage you to give

4082
04:55:02,070 --> 04:55:08,110
code enforcement more personnel. I think they seem a little overwhelmed with

4083
04:55:08,110 --> 04:55:10,870
all of the things that are

4084
04:55:10,870 --> 04:55:13,850
happening, all the issues that

4085
04:55:13,850 --> 04:55:15,210
they have to deal with, as well

4086
04:55:15,210 --> 04:55:17,890
as the growth of Tracy, and that

4087
04:55:17,890 --> 04:55:19,990
would probably help, as well as

4088
04:55:19,990 --> 04:55:22,130
maybe doing some teaming up

4089
04:55:22,130 --> 04:55:24,470
between code enforcement, Tracy,

4090
04:55:24,650 --> 04:55:26,350
police department, and the

4091
04:55:26,350 --> 04:55:26,610
railroad.

4092
04:55:27,630 --> 04:55:28,530
I know when I worked in

4093
04:55:28,530 --> 04:55:30,010
Livermore, we did really cool

4094
04:55:30,610 --> 04:55:32,330
team operations where we all

4095
04:55:32,330 --> 04:55:34,150
worked together to clean up

4096
04:55:34,150 --> 04:55:35,230
neighborhoods, and that really

4097
04:55:35,230 --> 04:55:36,250
seemed to help.

4098
04:55:36,950 --> 04:55:37,310
I

4099
04:55:40,380 --> 04:55:41,260
think that was it.

4100
04:55:41,380 --> 04:55:42,300
Thank you so much.

4101
04:55:42,560 --> 04:55:43,080
Good night.

4102
04:55:44,080 --> 04:55:45,200
How do you say your last name?

4103
04:55:45,680 --> 04:55:46,040
McConnia?

4104
04:55:46,740 --> 04:55:47,100
McConnia.

4105
04:55:47,360 --> 04:55:47,760
What's that again?

4106
04:55:47,860 --> 04:55:48,220
McConnia?

4107
04:55:48,660 --> 04:55:49,020
McConnia.

4108
04:55:49,300 --> 04:55:49,660
McConnia.

4109
04:55:49,820 --> 04:55:49,840
Yeah.

4110
04:55:50,460 --> 04:55:50,740
All right.

4111
04:55:51,200 --> 04:55:51,740
Can you give her?

4112
04:55:52,220 --> 04:55:52,620
Can you give her?

4113
04:55:53,200 --> 04:55:55,480
We can't address you, but we can grab your information.

4114
04:55:55,760 --> 04:55:57,160
I'm going to say we don't have any staff in back.

4115
04:55:57,320 --> 04:55:59,140
They're all, it's midnight, so they all went home.

4116
04:56:00,160 --> 04:56:04,260
But if we can get your information and we'll have somebody to contact you and

4117
04:56:04,260 --> 04:56:06,020
follow up with you, some of that information.

4118
04:56:07,240 --> 04:56:07,960
Anybody else?

4119
04:56:07,960 --> 04:56:08,920
All

4120
04:56:11,000 --> 04:56:18,960
right. See no one step item. Nothing. No. Council items. Mayor I'm obligated since

4121
04:56:18,960 --> 04:56:27,800
I went to a I was invited by the California legal cities to attend their annual leadership

4122
04:56:27,800 --> 04:56:38,460
workshop. That was in Napa and that that workshop sets up the goals where like we did in our

4123
04:56:38,460 --> 04:56:47,260
council retrieve the goals where the California legal cities will work on the rest of the year.

4124
04:56:49,360 --> 04:56:56,520
I wanted to inform the council and the public that the California legal cities leadership

4125
04:56:57,180 --> 04:57:06,660
will be concentrating and working in policies and following bills that will support and

4126
04:57:06,660 --> 04:57:10,440
and address the issues of homelessness, housing,

4127
04:57:11,320 --> 04:57:15,420
pension reform, transportation, infrastructure,

4128
04:57:16,500 --> 04:57:18,020
and sustainable services.

4129
04:57:18,680 --> 04:57:20,620
Those who are the goals that the board

4130
04:57:20,620 --> 04:57:23,220
and all the people attending decided

4131
04:57:23,220 --> 04:57:27,820
that we're following and advocating and Sacramento

4132
04:57:28,280 --> 04:57:32,280
as bills will be going through in the next year.

4133
04:57:33,700 --> 04:57:41,900
And it was a very productive two days conference and learned a bunch and made a bunch of different people.

4134
04:57:42,940 --> 04:57:50,160
Some of the guests that were there was Senator Bell and Senator Glacier.

4135
04:57:50,160 --> 04:58:00,540
And I want to say that also the city of Tracy was highlighted by the California city, California

4136
04:58:00,540 --> 04:58:10,240
legal cities on AB 430A and how that will impact the entire state and how is 911 going

4137
04:58:10,240 --> 04:58:12,020
to be addressed through the entire state.

4138
04:58:12,020 --> 04:58:21,180
So they were a kudosense to the public service and for the passing of that bill.

4139
04:58:21,980 --> 04:58:24,180
That concludes my update.

4140
04:58:24,920 --> 04:58:28,500
I want to wish everybody Merry Christmas and happy New Year's.

4141
04:58:29,040 --> 04:58:29,700
Thank you.

4142
04:58:29,800 --> 04:58:30,620
Council Member Erolah.

4143
04:58:30,980 --> 04:58:31,340
Thank you.

4144
04:58:31,760 --> 04:58:35,500
I just want to say thank you to the community members who came to my town hall, Neighborhood Safety.

4145
04:58:35,960 --> 04:58:36,840
That was very productive.

4146
04:58:37,080 --> 04:58:38,360
We had some great conversations.

4147
04:58:39,040 --> 04:58:41,220
I really think this is going to be the beginning of the conversation.

4148
04:58:41,220 --> 04:58:46,800
I look forward to bringing some policy proposals soon and with that, I just want to say Merry

4149
04:58:46,800 --> 04:58:49,200
Christmas everybody and happy new year, please be safe out there.

4150
04:58:50,520 --> 04:58:57,580
Council Member, I'll start with Merry Christmas to everyone next week.

4151
04:58:57,660 --> 04:58:59,600
I can't believe the year is winding up so quickly.

4152
04:59:00,560 --> 04:59:07,000
And then just real quickly on December the 6th, I think it was, I forgot my date,

4153
04:59:07,500 --> 04:59:09,280
the first Friday of the month.

4154
04:59:09,280 --> 04:59:17,980
We had the ACE Board meeting, and I was there to represent someone can call it as well as Tracy.

4155
04:59:18,580 --> 04:59:26,480
And one of the main items that was discussed was item number seven, adopting a schedule change for the ACE Saturday service.

4156
04:59:27,160 --> 04:59:33,120
And so this item proposed a change in time for Saturday since they started the service.

4157
04:59:33,120 --> 04:59:47,560
And it's really based on input that was taken from the commuters or the ace riders because ridership on Saturday was expanded not just for people who work on the weekend but for a lot of recreation.

4158
04:59:48,080 --> 04:59:56,720
And what they found too is that a lot of people are actually utilizing that service to visit family who are like in San Jose or in the Bay Area versus work.

4159
04:59:56,720 --> 04:59:59,600
And so for that, they're proposing them.

4160
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:08,120
Train, the commuter train number 101, moving the time from 7.35 a.m. to 6.15 a.m.

4161
05:00:08,140 --> 05:00:12,960
That's even from Stockton. So we'll leave earlier to four people the ability to go to work,

4162
05:00:13,040 --> 05:00:20,220
who does work, who do work on those days. And to come back 104 from 3.50, they moved it to 4.15.

4163
05:00:20,540 --> 05:00:27,960
That's just that time we'll give them a little bit more. And for the leisure commuters 103 to move from 8.40 to 9.15

4164
05:00:27,960 --> 05:00:32,040
because they want to sleep in a little more and go and then to come back later

4165
05:00:32,040 --> 05:00:35,860
instead of coming back from San Jose at five it would actually leave at 7.15

4166
05:00:35,860 --> 05:00:39,840
to just afford them just that extra time and then for a while

4167
05:00:39,840 --> 05:00:43,980
undetermined yet how long introducing a flat rate

4168
05:00:43,980 --> 05:00:47,880
of $14 per person to write on Saturday which is

4169
05:00:47,880 --> 05:00:52,160
a lot less than the current rate and then we're also looking into

4170
05:00:52,160 --> 05:00:56,200
they're also looking into other options for family packages

4171
05:00:56,200 --> 05:01:01,280
is whether for kids to ride free or elderly or discounts or looking at other things that

4172
05:01:01,280 --> 05:01:07,720
they can adapt on the app to be able to just make that more accessible and used by many

4173
05:01:07,720 --> 05:01:08,140
more people.

4174
05:01:08,340 --> 05:01:11,680
And then the advertisement will be coming up soon for that.

4175
05:01:14,180 --> 05:01:16,920
Great, thank you very much.

4176
05:01:17,660 --> 05:01:25,540
So I will start with, I serve on the partnership as representative of the city and we've

4177
05:01:25,540 --> 05:01:29,820
recently made a staff change as a board to the Executive Director, and we're currently

4178
05:01:29,820 --> 05:01:33,800
working on a strategic plan to do a better job at attracting jobs.

4179
05:01:35,000 --> 05:01:40,260
Currently in the past practice of the partnership, what's happened is they've gone to the representatives

4180
05:01:40,260 --> 05:01:44,660
have gone to different trade shows flown all over the country, and it just turned into

4181
05:01:44,660 --> 05:01:45,720
where we were getting reports.

4182
05:01:46,240 --> 05:01:51,580
And so we're working with the new Executive Director to really create an environment

4183
05:01:51,580 --> 05:01:57,660
that would be more attractive and to be more proactive in actually going out to recruit jobs to the region.

4184
05:01:57,860 --> 05:02:05,300
So we're doing some restructuring and we're going to have a couple of meetings where we actually put together different subcommittees.

4185
05:02:05,820 --> 05:02:11,380
And so we have subcommittees, obviously, to put together new bylaws on how that's going to look.

4186
05:02:11,580 --> 05:02:16,240
But we also have a new governance committee that's going to be working with state policies.

4187
05:02:16,240 --> 05:02:27,500
And then we're going to be looking at what infrastructure and things are needed to be more attractive to those jobs who are citizens are currently residents are currently commuting to.

4188
05:02:28,000 --> 05:02:34,620
So that's an update and I'll bring we'll be getting a more information at the next meeting. I'll obviously bring that back.

4189
05:02:34,620 --> 05:02:41,060
I also attended the town hall, the Councilman Arayola put on.

4190
05:02:41,460 --> 05:02:46,160
I just want to thank you for allowing the citizens to come out and speak in regards to that.

4191
05:02:47,680 --> 05:02:56,420
Recently, actually yesterday, the Supreme Court made a decision not to hear the challenges

4192
05:02:56,420 --> 05:02:58,380
to the Martin v. Boise case.

4193
05:02:58,740 --> 05:03:03,760
So that kind of speaks to the sense of urgency with the things that we're working on

4194
05:03:03,760 --> 05:03:09,700
in regards to the strategic plan for the ad hoc committee in regards to homelessness,

4195
05:03:10,220 --> 05:03:16,040
because basically essentially what that does is it forces, instead of the federal government

4196
05:03:16,040 --> 05:03:21,340
making, you know, weighing in, it really forces the different locales to have to figure out

4197
05:03:21,340 --> 05:03:26,700
how to address the situation based to what's going on to their particular communities.

4198
05:03:26,700 --> 05:03:37,000
I do have a request from our city attorney, Ms. Leticia, if you can, do you mind sharing

4199
05:03:37,000 --> 05:03:40,500
a brief update on where we are with the project labor agreements?

4200
05:03:41,400 --> 05:03:41,960
Sure.

4201
05:03:42,560 --> 05:03:48,460
So we have an internal group of staff that are dedicated to working on the negotiations

4202
05:03:48,460 --> 05:03:52,900
for the project labor agreement and includes our assistant city manager Andrew, Malik,

4203
05:03:52,900 --> 05:03:59,300
City Engineer Robert Armijo and our HR Director Kimberley Murdoch and myself along with outside

4204
05:03:59,300 --> 05:03:59,720
council.

4205
05:04:00,020 --> 05:04:04,440
We have met with the Building Trade Council about three to four times.

4206
05:04:04,560 --> 05:04:06,620
The last meeting was actually December 4th.

4207
05:04:06,780 --> 05:04:13,040
We expect to have another meeting, a negotiation session on January 8th, and we are working

4208
05:04:13,040 --> 05:04:17,880
towards coming back to council with an agreement on January 21st.

4209
05:04:18,610 --> 05:04:19,520
Thank you very much.

4210
05:04:19,520 --> 05:04:26,360
I know we originally talked about having that back in December, but I appreciate the update in you letting us know where we are

4211
05:04:26,360 --> 05:04:29,720
My last item. I'm gonna be as brief as possible

4212
05:04:29,720 --> 05:04:34,860
But we've done a lot of work on the council in regards to responding to

4213
05:04:36,040 --> 05:04:44,160
Really getting our governance together getting our code of conduct getting our policies together so that we can really conduct the city's business and

4214
05:04:44,820 --> 05:04:47,640
I think it's it's shameful. It's

4215
05:04:47,640 --> 05:04:49,480
It's not frustrating, it's just shameful.

4216
05:04:50,280 --> 05:04:52,120
Before I even got on this council,

4217
05:04:52,480 --> 05:04:55,280
and if Miss English is in the hallway, I hope she comes in,

4218
05:04:55,820 --> 05:04:59,640
back in 2014, and maybe it's a coincidence,

4219
05:05:00,080 --> 05:05:02,420
on council, I'm in Vargas' very first day

4220
05:05:02,420 --> 05:05:05,780
on the planning commission is when I started facing attacks.

4221
05:05:06,600 --> 05:05:08,960
Things being said, things that were untrue

4222
05:05:09,580 --> 05:05:13,640
on this council, followed by when I was running in 2015,

4223
05:05:13,940 --> 05:05:17,240
there's videos of Miss English coming in saying things

4224
05:05:17,240 --> 05:05:22,680
that were not true based on my work on the Planning Commission and posting things in social

4225
05:05:22,680 --> 05:05:23,100
media.

4226
05:05:23,740 --> 05:05:28,380
And then moving here to this council and really trying to serve this community, it's frustrating

4227
05:05:28,380 --> 05:05:33,980
the disrespect, the unprofessionalism, and then knowing that these relationships on the

4228
05:05:33,980 --> 05:05:38,020
council continue to perpetuate these things.

4229
05:05:38,360 --> 05:05:45,180
And emails and things that are discussed are coming because people are going to great

4230
05:05:45,180 --> 05:05:49,500
lengths to find out, you know, every move that I make, it's almost like being stalked.

4231
05:05:49,880 --> 05:05:55,080
And I just really wish that in this political year that this council would make a commitment

4232
05:05:55,080 --> 05:06:02,340
to the friends that you have that come here and continue to perpetuate things that they

4233
05:06:02,340 --> 05:06:03,240
know that are not true.

4234
05:06:03,480 --> 05:06:09,240
And we do have a right, and I did check with the FPPC as well as with previous attorneys.

4235
05:06:09,240 --> 05:06:12,660
When someone comes here and says things that are untrue,

4236
05:06:13,240 --> 05:06:17,220
we do have a right to correct that information.

4237
05:06:18,260 --> 05:06:23,320
Every time that happens, there's a push to silence that

4238
05:06:23,320 --> 05:06:24,280
and to let it go on.

4239
05:06:24,460 --> 05:06:27,280
And there are so many different examples that can be given,

4240
05:06:27,360 --> 05:06:32,440
but it was on record publicly that over 100 staff hours were used

4241
05:06:32,440 --> 05:06:36,040
in regards to, she said that she didn't pull it,

4242
05:06:36,040 --> 05:06:42,160
but Mr. Richard English, I believe, pulling information in regards to my employer,

4243
05:06:42,420 --> 05:06:48,060
SOAC Community Foundation, and we had to hire temps to go back to old files

4244
05:06:48,060 --> 05:06:51,620
that had things, nothing to do with my service here on this council.

4245
05:06:52,160 --> 05:06:57,100
There's also a record we're talking about 2017, 2018.

4246
05:06:57,500 --> 05:06:58,760
It's very clear on the record.

4247
05:06:58,980 --> 05:07:02,840
Board members have come and said that I asked them to pull their application,

4248
05:07:02,840 --> 05:07:10,260
which was pooled. And so I really resent the continuous intentional mischaracterizations.

4249
05:07:10,800 --> 05:07:16,100
Everyone on this council has a right to run for office and you should be able to do that

4250
05:07:16,100 --> 05:07:21,320
without having people try to orchestrate and mischaracterize things. If there's something

4251
05:07:21,320 --> 05:07:25,500
that needs to be addressed, let's go ahead and address it, let's get on the table,

4252
05:07:25,600 --> 05:07:28,620
let's move forward. If it's something that needs to be done with governance,

4253
05:07:28,620 --> 05:07:46,060
I encourage anyone, if you have something about send it to the grand jury, send it to the attorney general, send it wherever, because I know I wake up and I sleep very well and I wake up knowing that I'm here to do a good job, that I'm not here to do anything that's illegal or immoral.

4254
05:07:46,060 --> 05:07:55,020
And so I encourage you, as just like you did before, you sent 122 pages to the FPPC making

4255
05:07:55,020 --> 05:07:56,780
accusations that, you know, weren't true.

4256
05:07:57,280 --> 05:07:57,680
Send it.

4257
05:07:57,840 --> 05:07:58,700
Continue to send it.

4258
05:07:58,780 --> 05:08:03,340
But to continue to come here, complain about how much time we talk and waste our time with

4259
05:08:03,340 --> 05:08:08,980
things that are not relevant or true, I just really wish and hope that this council

4260
05:08:08,980 --> 05:08:13,020
would commit to all this code of conduct work and all these different things that

4261
05:08:13,020 --> 05:08:16,440
We've said that we're committed to and just truly move forward.

4262
05:08:16,780 --> 05:08:17,180
Thank you.

4263
05:08:18,680 --> 05:08:22,060
And with that, I'm going to say Merry Christmas to all of you

4264
05:08:22,060 --> 05:08:23,700
out there, because we're not going to see you again

4265
05:08:23,700 --> 05:08:25,000
until next until after Christmas.

4266
05:08:25,240 --> 05:08:25,560
Thank you.

4267
05:08:28,600 --> 05:08:29,380
All right, thank you.

4268
05:08:29,760 --> 05:08:31,440
And just to clarify something, yeah,

4269
05:08:31,480 --> 05:08:34,260
we can correct the record, but as we've stated,

4270
05:08:34,580 --> 05:08:36,440
over and over and over and over again,

4271
05:08:36,740 --> 05:08:39,520
per FBPC and per Brown Act and all this stuff,

4272
05:08:39,640 --> 05:08:44,280
for legal case law, it has to be a brief statement

4273
05:08:44,280 --> 05:08:48,220
to clarify the factual information so what that means is if somebody comes up

4274
05:08:48,220 --> 05:08:52,300
here and says something that you don't like and that is not untrue one of the

4275
05:08:52,300 --> 05:08:57,460
remedies that we have is to make a brief statement to clarify the fact a prime

4276
05:08:57,460 --> 05:09:01,400
example of that I who I think does an exceptional job of that is council

4277
05:09:01,400 --> 05:09:04,540
memory areola and he has done it a couple of times as quick states of

4278
05:09:04,540 --> 05:09:14,180
facts boom you move on you know it's it is what it you know we've all

4279
05:09:14,180 --> 05:09:15,940
I don't think anybody's taking more hits than I have.

4280
05:09:16,220 --> 05:09:18,340
I had a former mayor who was after me for two years.

4281
05:09:19,120 --> 05:09:21,440
You know, it is what it is.

4282
05:09:21,900 --> 05:09:25,060
It's, you know, and reprimanding the public,

4283
05:09:26,680 --> 05:09:29,480
you know, up here I just don't think is

4284
05:09:32,500 --> 05:09:35,040
efficient or beneficial to the council as a whole.

4285
05:09:35,440 --> 05:09:36,660
But that's just me.

4286
05:09:38,020 --> 05:09:41,300
Now with that being said, last Saturday,

4287
05:09:43,600 --> 05:09:51,160
Reefs across America were at the Tracy Cemetery and it was awesome in the fact

4288
05:09:51,160 --> 05:09:58,980
that we had hundreds, hundreds of people show up to place reefs on our veterans

4289
05:09:58,980 --> 05:10:03,220
graves. This is the sixth year that we have done that and this year the first

4290
05:10:03,220 --> 05:10:08,900
time we received over 2,000 reefs, which was enough for every veteran in

4291
05:10:08,900 --> 05:10:14,900
the cemetery and I want to thank the ghost our mom Julia Conover and Scott for

4292
05:10:14,900 --> 05:10:19,220
you know bringing this tradition here to Tracy and my daughter Grace who's a

4293
05:10:19,220 --> 05:10:25,360
senior at Tracy High go Bulldogs that you have to say it is a tradition if not

4294
05:10:25,360 --> 05:10:38,440
I get struck somebody will run me over but you know yeah exactly this guy over

4295
05:10:38,440 --> 05:10:45,220
car. It wasn't a bulldog. It was in Stockton. Might have been somebody from Lincoln. But

4296
05:10:45,940 --> 05:10:52,280
my daughter Grace, you know, chose Rees Across America for her senior project this year.

4297
05:10:52,540 --> 05:10:56,440
And, you know, she spoke publicly at the Tracy Cemetery for the first time. So she

4298
05:10:56,440 --> 05:11:01,840
did a heck of a job. And, you know, Karen and I, and everybody's very, very proud

4299
05:11:01,840 --> 05:11:07,360
of her. And it just goes to show you what a great town that we are. You know,

4300
05:11:07,360 --> 05:11:12,860
a lot of people do like to mention the negative, but you look at the positive and you look

4301
05:11:13,380 --> 05:11:18,260
at, you know, and I say it over and over and when it comes time to get something to done,

4302
05:11:18,500 --> 05:11:25,040
it's time to get something to come together, nobody beats our town, you know, Tracy, Tracy

4303
05:11:25,040 --> 05:11:25,420
remembers.

4304
05:11:28,020 --> 05:11:32,920
I want to say Merry Christmas of course, happy new year, happy birthday

4305
05:11:33,460 --> 05:11:35,480
to my wife, Karen, who's sitting in the audience

4306
05:11:35,480 --> 05:11:36,700
with birthdays a day afterwards.

4307
05:11:38,520 --> 05:11:43,360
And real quick question to our counselor before I leave.

4308
05:11:44,100 --> 05:11:46,800
If you're sending text messages or posting on Facebook

4309
05:11:46,800 --> 05:11:48,020
up here on the dais,

4310
05:11:49,680 --> 05:11:51,400
what's the liability that you can create?

4311
05:11:51,620 --> 05:11:53,040
Is that against a code of conduct

4312
05:11:53,040 --> 05:11:56,920
or is that subject to PRAs?

4313
05:11:57,680 --> 05:11:57,920
What's?

4314
05:11:58,660 --> 05:12:00,620
So I don't believe there's any provision

4315
05:12:00,620 --> 05:12:06,160
in our Code of Conduct that addresses social media or texting during a

4316
05:12:06,160 --> 05:12:12,240
council meeting directly, but in terms of kind of liability, you know, I have

4317
05:12:12,240 --> 05:12:16,520
seen in the past those types of communications be subject to public

4318
05:12:16,520 --> 05:12:21,600
records requests. If the content of those messages have to do with the

4319
05:12:21,600 --> 05:12:25,480
public's business and city business, they could be subject to a public

4320
05:12:25,480 --> 05:12:31,580
request. Okay, but if you're up here on the dais and you're I guess we're paid

4321
05:12:31,580 --> 05:12:36,840
being work isn't any of the product we do a pure work product. Depending on I mean

4322
05:12:36,840 --> 05:12:40,140
if I'm talking to my spouse maybe that's one thing different but if I'm

4323
05:12:40,140 --> 05:12:47,640
say posting on Facebook a public media and if people know I'm here and I'm

4324
05:12:47,640 --> 05:12:52,720
making a statement on public media or social media can you. That could be

4325
05:12:52,720 --> 05:12:53,920
subject to a public record request.

4326
05:12:54,260 --> 05:12:59,360
All right, I'm going to be sending you something probably tomorrow that occurred tonight, what

4327
05:12:59,360 --> 05:13:00,180
I want to recount from the meeting.

4328
05:13:00,320 --> 05:13:04,240
Members up here, if that's the case, I want to subject, put it in the record of this

4329
05:13:04,240 --> 05:13:05,900
meeting for the public.

4330
05:13:06,360 --> 05:13:06,720
So it is.

4331
05:13:06,720 --> 05:13:07,340
So for the public.

4332
05:13:07,780 --> 05:13:08,100
Yeah.

4333
05:13:08,540 --> 05:13:09,240
Were you done, sir?

4334
05:13:09,640 --> 05:13:10,100
Yes, go ahead.

4335
05:13:10,280 --> 05:13:15,040
So for the public to know what the mayor is referring to is after the first attack,

4336
05:13:15,380 --> 05:13:18,540
I encourage you to go on to the meetings because these attacks are orchestrated by

4337
05:13:18,540 --> 05:13:18,900
your mayor.

4338
05:13:19,380 --> 05:13:27,820
So on my break, you saw me go in the back and I posted that you should tune into the meeting

4339
05:13:27,820 --> 05:13:32,920
because I think it's really important for the community to see how we're conducting your business.

4340
05:13:33,320 --> 05:13:36,560
So you can submit your PRA.

4341
05:13:36,680 --> 05:13:37,500
No, I won't submit.

4342
05:13:38,000 --> 05:13:39,860
I'm wondering how did you get that information?

4343
05:13:40,060 --> 05:13:40,760
Somebody sent it to you.

4344
05:13:40,820 --> 05:13:41,720
Someone sent it to you.

4345
05:13:41,800 --> 05:13:42,760
So your text is okay.

4346
05:13:42,760 --> 05:13:43,040
Right here.

4347
05:13:43,260 --> 05:13:44,060
Somebody sent it to me.

4348
05:13:44,100 --> 05:13:44,780
I didn't text anybody.

4349
05:13:45,140 --> 05:13:46,280
Oh, someone sent it to you.

4350
05:13:46,280 --> 05:13:47,060
But you got it.

4351
05:13:47,060 --> 05:13:48,740
Yeah, I didn't get it and this is my

4352
05:13:48,740 --> 05:13:52,040
Items these comments are supposed to be brief right it is well

4353
05:13:52,040 --> 05:13:53,360
I'll read it to you

4354
05:13:53,360 --> 05:13:59,980
I suggest you all turn on the council meeting the petty political shenanigans are back the personal tax of no place here

4355
05:13:59,980 --> 05:14:01,900
Only paid the work on behalf of the community

4356
05:14:01,900 --> 05:14:07,080
Should not be moved fall along with the link below and ladies and gentlemen. I mean

4357
05:14:07,800 --> 05:14:13,400
One thing attacking the public attacking other council members because we disagree is is ridiculous

4358
05:14:13,400 --> 05:14:19,060
And we can disagree to disagree and move on, but to say everything is political.

4359
05:14:19,320 --> 05:14:24,380
If you disagree with an individual, it's a political attack or it's accusatory, you know,

4360
05:14:24,640 --> 05:14:28,340
and it's, you saw last council meeting with,

4361
05:14:30,480 --> 05:14:31,480
I'm from the audience,

4362
05:14:31,980 --> 05:14:37,380
you saw on a March 6th with, in March 6th of 2018 by council member Ransom

4363
05:14:37,380 --> 05:14:40,920
who wanted limited public records act, which is, again, against the law.

4364
05:14:40,920 --> 05:14:47,200
So, there's a level or there's a path that shows it's the same thing over and over.

4365
05:14:47,620 --> 05:14:50,420
If the public has a right to do a PRA, you can do it.

4366
05:14:50,740 --> 05:14:52,140
I've had plenty done on me.

4367
05:14:52,240 --> 05:14:52,920
You have a right.

4368
05:14:53,340 --> 05:14:54,800
It doesn't mean you're attacking or accusing.

4369
05:14:55,300 --> 05:14:56,500
You can do what you want.

4370
05:14:56,880 --> 05:14:58,060
Same thing with the First Amendment.

4371
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:08,260
It's unfortunate that we can't disagree to disagree up here, and it is what it is. But, you know, no ill will.

4372
05:15:08,620 --> 05:15:15,480
You just mischaracterized. I've never requested that the public not be able to do a PRA. What I requested back then,

4373
05:15:15,700 --> 05:15:23,080
and it's already been cleared up and we've watched the video, is that when people are using the PRAs to continue to attack.

4374
05:15:26,900 --> 05:15:32,780
I made a point of clarification that I never requested that people not be able to do PRAs

4375
05:15:32,780 --> 05:15:36,000
that they be listed on the website which they are currently now done.

4376
05:15:36,120 --> 05:15:40,960
You are correct on that. Actually, I got the transcript of it if you want to. You know,

4377
05:15:41,020 --> 05:15:45,700
and she's right, she didn't say, but she said that put people's name on the website on her

4378
05:15:45,700 --> 05:15:45,900
own website.

4379
05:15:45,900 --> 05:15:48,820
I feel you're delving into a discussion of something that's not on the agenda.

4380
05:15:48,980 --> 05:15:50,380
Can we call for the question?

4381
05:15:50,740 --> 05:15:51,320
Yeah, go ahead.

4382
05:15:51,320 --> 05:15:52,840
I move to conclude the meeting.

4383
05:15:53,400 --> 05:15:54,120
I'll second that.

4384
05:15:54,640 --> 05:15:55,560
Can we roll call, please?

4385
05:15:57,060 --> 05:15:58,580
Council Member Areola?

4386
05:15:59,280 --> 05:16:00,020
Council Member Vargas?

4387
05:16:00,300 --> 05:16:00,500
Yes.

4388
05:16:00,740 --> 05:16:01,380
Council Member Ransom?

4389
05:16:01,580 --> 05:16:01,800
Yes.

4390
05:16:02,380 --> 05:16:03,060
Member Tim Young?

4391
05:16:03,240 --> 05:16:03,440
Yes.

4392
05:16:03,840 --> 05:16:04,460
And Mayor Rickman?

4393
05:16:04,740 --> 05:16:05,020
Yes.

4394
05:16:05,440 --> 05:16:06,020
Thank you, everybody.

4395
05:16:06,200 --> 05:16:06,400
Good night.