>> it is 4:31 p.m. Madam city clerk, roll call, please.
>> let the record reflect that all members are in attendance.
>> thank you. Next we have public input. At this time any
member of the public may address the council on matters
which are on the closed session
agenda. If any members of the public wish to participate on
zoom and wish to address the council, please raise your
hand. If you are calling in,
please press star nine or raise your hand. Madam city clerk,
any requests to speak?
>> no, mr. Mayor. >> provide the closed session
update, mr. City attorney.
>> the council will be
convening in closed session to
discuss item 5 as it appears on the closed session agenda,
which includes conference with
the city's real property negotiators, aldo schindler,
nicole bernard, brian moncrief,
and ryan swiontek and â€"
>> thank you. We will recess to
closed session.
>>> the local use authority it
is 5:03 p.m. Meeting number 3083. Tonight's invocation is
by deacon john reza from st. Cecilia church.
>> heavenly father, we gather
here this day with hearts full of gratitude for the many
blessings you have bestowed upon us. As we begin this
meeting we seek your presence
among us asking for wisdom, understanding, and clarity in
all of our discussions and
decisions. Enlighten our minds and open our hearts to the
needs of our community guiding us to serve with integrity and
compassion. Grant us the discernment to seek the common
good above personal interests
and the courage to act justly and with humility. May our
efforts today contribute to the
flourishing of all of our residents reflecting the
dignity and respect each person
deserves. We ask your blessing
upon the city, its leaders, and its people that we may work
together in harmony to build a
community rooted in love and solidarity. Inspire us to
always strive for justice,
peace, and the well-being of all. We entrust this meeting to
your divine providence, confident in your ongoing
guidance and support, and we
ask this all through christ our lord, amen.
>> thank you, deacon.
the pledge of allegiance is by mayor pro tem nielsen.
>> [ inaudible ]
>> I pledge of allegiance to
the flag of the united states
of america, and to the republic which it stands, one nation,
under god, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all.
>> thank you, mr. Mayor pro
tem. Before we move on to public input I would like to
announce this meeting will be live streamed through this
website and via zoom.
anyone who is unable to join us
in person tonight or needs to leave can watch it on the
website can participate through zoom. Next we have public
input. At this time any member of the public can address the
council on matters which are not on this evening's agenda
provided the matter is within
the subject matter jurisdiction of the city council. For those
of you here tonight and wish to address the council on the
development updates of the tustin legacy, we will be
taking open public input
following the presentations
from our partners. Right now it's for any other matters
within the city council jurisdiction. If any members of
the public are participating
through zoom wish to address the council, please raise your
hand and if you're calling in, please press star nine to raise
your hand. Madam city clerk,
any requests to speak? Anybody in person? Okay. We will move
on to closed session report. Mr. City attorney.
>> the city council took no
reportable action.
>> thank you, sir. We will next
move to regular business. We have one item tonight which is
the development updates from the former marine corps air
station in tustin property
recipients. All of the development partners out here
on the base that you drive by and see on a daily basis. This
is the third of these meetings
we've had in the last five years or so. We're trying to do
it on an annual basis, so
tonight you will hear some updates of where we've been in
last 12 months and what we have left to do. I will give it to
the city manager, aldo schindler.
>> thank you, mayor and
council. It's a pleasure to be here to provide further
background on the item and
introduce all of our partners this evening. We are excited to
host this meeting at flight. One of the success stories of
our aformer marine corps air station tustin redevelopment.
thank you to my city team and especially the city clerk's
office for coordinating logistics tonight. The local
reuse authority is one of the many hats the city wears. This
federal designation gives the city responsibility for leading
the reuse planning and implementation of the former
marine corps air station at tustin. From 2002 until
february 2021 the local reuse
authority did not hold any
formal meetings. That changed when the city council invited
all of its development partners to share updates on their
projects and progress. Following another local reuse
authority meeting in 2024 the city council directed staff to
hold annual local reuse
authority meetings to provide the community with updates from
the city and its partners on developing progress. These
annual meetings are just one part of the larger dialogue the
city and community have
embarked on together to shape the future of tustin legacy.
the ongoing conversations help ensure development reflects our
shared vision and priorities
for this important part of tustin's future. For anyone who
is interested in hearing more
about that process and upcoming
outreach events, our outreach team has a booth in the open
house after this meeting and
can answer any of your questions. For tonight's
meeting the city has invited
all the agencies that participate in the 2021 and
2024 meetings to join us again.
after the presentation portion of the meeting, there will be
an open house where you can be the presenters and other
stakeholders, ask questions, and get more information. The
organizations you will hear
from tonight and meet later at the open house are the public
agencies or nonprofits that
oversee specific types of
development projects in line with the reuse plan and a
specific plan for tustin legacy. We also have a special
guest. George schlossberg, who
has been involved since 1991.
when the marine corps air station base closure
discussions first began. His presentation will look back at
how the city became a local
reuse authority and highlight
key milestones when the city strategically navigated
challenges to create the opportunities that we see today
at the tustin legacy. The city
and our partners will share
updates on current and planned development of the remaining
property at the tustin legacy.
following each presentation the council will have the
opportunity to ask questions or
seek clarification on any part
of that presentation. The public will have an opportunity
to comment once all the presentations have been made.
the order of the presentations tonight will be george
schlossberg, the city special counsel regarding land-use
reuse authority at â€" attorneys
at law, the orange county rescue mission, the south
orange county community college district, rancho santiago
community college district, tustin unified school district
and the last presentation by
the city of tustin. Once the
city presentation is concluded, I will then turn it back to the
mayor for general council
comments and public comments. With that, I would like to
invite george schlossberg to
come up and give his presentation.
>>while george is coming up,
just to reiterate what the city manager said. There will be a
lot of content thrown at you all and at the council for the
next hour and a half to two
hours and then you have an opportunity to address the
council formally at the microphone. If you don't want
to do that, there's an open house afterwards and you can
talk to us more informally. I know it can be nerve-racking,
especially with the spotlights.
george.
>> mayor, members of the council, and members of the
public, aldo, thank you for the
invitation. It has been a long
run for me and the city since the department of defense
decided to close marine corps
air station tustin. As aldo
indicated, I've been working with the city since the
original closure decision has
been made -- was made by the federal government in 1991. I
come sort of this by way of penance. In the sense that I
assisted the city and others. I
was the first base closure
counsel for the secretary's
office and at that time we assured communities throughout
the country that this base
closure process would be short, would be simple, and in three
years nobody would ever
remember that the process had been undertaken, and that is
where the word penance comes in, of course, because not one
of the things that we testified
to the congress about ever came
about, which is why all these
many years later we are back here. The base closure process
is complex. It involves â€" and I
will discuss this later â€" these are the largest
contiguous parcels of land in
the lower 48 that have been
available for redevelopment in
communities in the last
century. And the federal
government was not terribly
prepared or geared -- they were
prepared to close the base, relocate the military
activities, but actually dispose and redevelop the land,
that was something that was
beyond our ken at the time.
from a community viewpoint,
although these opportunities
for cities, states, counties,
the local land-use entities to
really reimagine the future of
their communities because the
marine corps air station tustin
was 1600 acres in the heart of
your city, portions of it in the city of irvine, and it
represented a vibrant part of
the community. It was an
economic engine for the community. Everyone here has no
doubt seen the giant hangars
that the navy built during
world war ii... The base housed
the sailors and marines that
marched off to world war ii,
vietnam, korea, and many other
conflicts. And so to actually
have the base close, the
communities relocated, is both
an opportunity and a jolt. But
the land itself located where
it is, is a tremendous
opportunity. It is a uniquely
valuable asset, particularly
here in tustin. Not all base closure property, some in the
desert, some in the mountains,
is equally valuable for
redevelopment. But this
property here, as you know, is
uniquely valuable. How did we get to this process?
for those of us who lived in the pentagon at that period of
time, the world changed in
1990. We were gearing up to
fight the cold war, the wall came down, the cold war is
over, and the u.s. Government
looked at the expenditures, the forestructure and the base
structure and made a decision,
an all-of-government decision
to essentially change the way
that the defense department had
been structured. And there were
political debates, there were discussions, and the base
closure process, which was a
selection process, probably is not really relevant here now,
but it was a very public, open
process where bases were racked
and stacked against each other
and selected for closure. But
at the end of the day, when a base was closed, the federal
government was then left with
the decision what to do with the land because it was
federally owned land. Some of it was exclusive federal
jurisdiction, some of it was
within the cities and from land-use control was controlled
by the cities, but most, if not
all -- not all, but most of it
was utterly exclusive jurisdiction and could be done
with as the federal government decided. In 1991 when the base
closure commission first
decided to close marine corps
air station tustin, the city of
tustin did not support it,
didn't oppose it, was very
concerned and very active in
the role with the department of
the navy, the department of the marine corps, the base closure
commission, the defense
department, your congressional delegations, as to what to do
with it. But ultimately the
commission adopted the recommendations of the
department and said close the
base. There have been five rounds of base closures. 1988,
1991, 1993, 1995, 2005. After 1991 it was a foregone
conclusion that as a matter of
law marine corps air station
must close. However, in 1993,
the navy did something
unprecedented in the base closure world. They went back
to the 1993 commission and
said, do not close marine corps
air station tustin. We made a
mistake, the structure for a variety of reasons we need the
runways at marine corps air station tustin. At that point
the city of tustin was well
into the planning process
deciding what could be done,
what could be benefited here in the city. What are the uses
that the land could be put to.
and the city -- just like the
navy made an unprecedented decision â€" the city made an
unprecedented decision in that
the city appeared -- we all
appeared before the base closure commission and said
stay the course. We were not
happy when you made the first decision, but we have decided
to live with it. Close the base. And over the objections
of the defense department and the navy the base closure
commission kept the base
closed, so that book was closed
in 1993, and as a matter of law
the closure was mandated. That
gets to the question of what happens. It was a drawn out
process of actually closing the
base, draw down the
forestructure, relocating the military assets, and the land
was, you know, was vacant. At
that time for the first three
rounds of base closures, '88, '91, and '93, the federal
government had no comprehensive
disposal process for these large parcels of land. The
federal disposal process, you
know, borne out of the surplus equipment of world war ii was
used selling jeeps and surplus
military vehicles and didn't
have the â€" really the ability
or the planning capability to plan for the economic
revitalization. And the congress insisted that the
reuse of the land be used to replace lost jobs. The statute
mandated job generation to replace the jobs that the
community lost. I mean, many
communities, they were economic
engine was ripped out and it
was very difficult to recover.
in 1993 the city of tustin,
together with several other
cities, we banded together with the association of defense
communities and proposed
legislation to the congress to establish a comprehensive base
closure disposal process that would put the communities in
charge. Whoever was the
land-use jurisdiction that
would inherit the land when the military was gone, would guide
and govern how the disposal process would take place. And
there were two seminal parts of
that. One is, we created a
federal entity called a local
redevelopment authority, that
the local city or county or
state, could petition to
become. The city of tustin was
the first lra to step forward
volunteered to become an lra and they were recognized by the
secretary of defense as a local
redevelopment authority for
marine corps air station tustin. There are
responsibilities that come with
an lra. The lra is obligated to put together a comprehensive
plan for the entirety of the
base that balances the needs of
the community, economic
development, homeless needs,
schools, parks, recreation, and all of community must be there
and it is a balancing activity that was reviewed by agencies
of the federal government, the department of health and human
services had to review the plan
and approve it. The department of housing and urban
development, hud, had to review and approve the plan. On the
screen is the initial plan
designed by the city of tustin
for the reuse balancing and
during that balancing process the city entertained
applications from entities,
public entities, local school districts. We would like to put
an elementary school, high
school, middle school, park
recreation, the county applied
for property, it could not all be enough by public uses
because we had to provide a
sufficient number of jobs to
replace those that had been
lost. Ultimately, the city put
together a plan, but in order
to implement that plan, it has
to go through the nepa process
the ceqa process that you are
familiar with and the city
agreed to undertake both the
federal process, nepa, as opposed to having the federal
government do it and the
california process, ceqa, and it was a joint nepa/ceqa study
to do that. And it was a
one-of-a-kind, first of a kind,
funded by the department of defense through oea grants.
as I indicated, the new federal
disposal law not only created
local redevelopment authorities, it also gave the
communities an opportunity to
acquire the property and
implement that vision. Because once the plan is done, it is
still federal land. So all you
have is a land-use plan owned by the federal government. How
do you implement that? And, again, the federal government
was used to auctioning the property. So the initial vision
was you planned it, we now put it on the auction block -- 1100
acres to the high bidder. And
that was not a very - a good way to make a plan as complex
as the tustin reuse plan into reality. So the second thing
that the community
redevelopment act that new
statute that we helped to author, the city helped the
author, allows for thing called
an economic development conveyance. That is the
government will convey the
property to the lra and only
the lra and on a sole-source
basis, and the lra is obligated
as a matter of law to implement its plan. You put together the
plan, we will give you the
opportunity to actually put
that plan into effect. Now, the
federal government is not in
the business of giving away valuable assets. I think people
here in this area are aware of
the value of land, and there
were very very long
negotiations between the city
and the navy and the department
of defense as to how to achieve the plan, fulfill the vision
that hud had approved, that hhs
had approved, dod had approved, that the city had proffered,
and still financed the
infrastructure and everything else necessary to make that
plan become a reality. And there are various different
mechanisms. The city chose
something that I think is
probably most beneficial. And
that is, the city essentially carved out a portion of the
base and let the federal
government with the city's plan zoning and entitlement sell
that and the city acquired the rest of the property at no cost
for development. Going to the
future there are opportunities
for a new planning as we
understand. Not all of the
property that is to come to the city by way of the economic
development conveyance agreement has, in fact, been --
the federal government is obligated to remediate property
under various federal environment statutes before
they can sign a deed. So that
property, which was remediated, was conveyed to the city by
deed. That property which was
not then remediated and some of which is still not remediated,
was conveyed by a long-term lease. Some of the
property at the former base is
owned by the city, some of it
is leased to the city. Some of it, however, was not part of
the edc agreement. The south
hangar is â€" was part of the
original edc conveyance. It has
not been remediated. It has
been leased to the city. The
city has custody and control of
the property. The north hangar,
the one that burned down, was not part of the edc agreement.
the city never took control of
that property, never took custody of that property, had
no legal rights to the property. But under the reuse
plan that property was
originally slated to become a
county regional park. The county applied for the
property, they were going to establish a regional county
park, which the city approved
their application in the reuse
plan. But over the years the
county had changed its plan and they withdrew that application,
so that 87 acres where the
north hangar burned down is not
planned currently. Within the
federal process for the reuse plan. It is planned as a county
regional park but there is no one to implement that vision.
so one of the things that the city is now able to do is, as
the local redevelopment authority, is to recast the
vision for that 87-acre parcel
of property. The city still
retains its role as the lra that was granted to the city
over 20 years ago. You have the
ability to revisit the plan,
open the plan, and once that is
done, then the property will be
available for disposal by the navy because the reuse plan is
a necessary precondition under
the base closure act. I think
that is it. That is all. For
those that will be interested
in actually the process of
getting from there to here, I
guess I am at one of the booths out there for later questions.
where you have out there the actual contract between the
city and the federal
government, which is something
that we needed several people
to have clarity in. Thank you.
>> I did want to make an
observation. The way we've set up the room it seems that
george was presenting to you
but he was presenting to the
local reuse authority, which is the city council, so when he
says the nepa/ceqa process
which you are familiar with, he was talking to us and not you.
if you are not familiar with that, that's why it landed
differently and I wanted to
make a point that you at the end of your comments was
talking about the county
application for the regional park. To put a finer point, as
we started our deliberations
for the two lra meetings go
which was 2021, we engaged with the county and in the process
we revoked our approval of the
county park plan because we knew they didn't have any money
to build it. And they were not going to build it. So there is
not going to be currently a county park there. If the
county wants to come back and
engage the lra and say they want to build a regional park,
that's something we can talk
about and that's the process george was talking about that
we need a plan to the 85 acres around the north hangar.
there's a misnomer out there. I think a lot of people think the
county owns the land or the
county is going to build regional park. That is no
longer the plan approved by the lra. Do we have questions for
george or comments?
>> just a quick question. Does the association of the defense
community still exist?
>> yes, it does exist. I am the general counsel.
>> perfect.
>> you hinted at the beginning
with your penance and given the
answer from council member nelson I assume that everybody
who had base closure in the
1980s â€" or the 1990s, I guess the 1980s and 1990s are most
localities still dealing with
it like we are? I don't think
that we are an outlier, if I'm understanding what you've
presented.
>> you're absolutely not an
outlier. There are still
communities today that have not
yet negotiated an edc agreement
that are still negotiating to get their purchase and sales
agreement, and with regard to the actual conveyance to
property, I mean, it's no
secret that former military installation property is
heavily contaminated. So -- not much -- many â€" a large
percentage of the land area has
not been conveyed even if there is a purchase deal. It is under
[ inaudible ]
>> something to follow up
related. There is a santa ana
air force base, which is now the orange county fairgrounds.
but they seem to have moved more quickly to take over that
space. I think that closed years ahead of time. Was it
just in a different day and age or different environmental
concerns and regulations. I
think probably a lot of postwar
facilities throughout the country had a similar process.
>> there is a lot of history, but the basic answer is that
the department of defense closed many bases after world
war ii. And congress stepped in
and passed a law precluding
closures unless they went to a
very detailed process. So those
that were slated for closure
before that process were
disposed of very quickly without community input unless
they requested it. Afterwards
there was a detailed plan and
there is currently a statute
that precludes any closures
absent an act of congress or
going through the process. There
were two presidential vetoes, I think, president carter
president ford vetoed the
budget at two separate times over that very issue of closing
bases.
>> additional comments and questions?
>> thank you very much for that walk down memory lane. I
appreciate it. Very complex a
lot of twists and turns. The south hangar I think all this
on the city council get a lot of questions from our
constituents about the south
hangar. There's an emotional connection, but can you talk a
little bit more about the
process of remediation and what
the process is around, is it
every 2 to 3 years, the navy will take a look and see where
we are with remediation and come back and say, yes, we can
finally convey that property to
the city to develop or you need to wait another 2 to 3 years.
can you just give a little more
background on that?
>> the federal government is obligated to remediate.
remediate is not necessarily
cleanup. They have to render it
safe for human health and the environment. And that could be
done with land-use restrictions, or, in fact,
physical work to render it â€" to
remove the contaminants and at
the time that they do the
conveyance, they do an
environmental analysis of the property and decide and
determine what is necessary to
clean it up -- to remediate it to the standards that you set
in your reuse plan. Then, it's a matter of implementing that.
sometimes if it's a groundwater
issue, it may take 20 years to pump and treat and you cannot
convey until the system is operating properly and
successfully.
it is a matter of money, as a
candid issue. Each year the defense department asks for a
certain amount of money for
environmental remediation on
bases it no longer operates. That is viewed by the
defense department as money out of their hide that does not buy
bullets and ships. It is not a very heavily-funded account.
and that money is spread across
all base closure properties and
across the country in all the
states in all the areas. It is
a matter of triage. And I know
in meetings with the navy and
others meeting with the navy and army and air force, you
know, you get a schedule that
says you are on the 2037 budget.
>> thank you. Additional
comments for george?
>> I know the city of tustin
will present at the end of the six partner presentations, and
I think a lot of our questions
will be around that property. Thank you for the overview. One
of my biggest takeaways is that
maybe further [ inaudible ]
there is a lot of property left to be developed, but it's very
complicated. The city doesn't
have a title of it yet. We are
waiting on, as the councilmember schnell was just
asking about, federal government remediation actions
to take place before they can hand over the property. And
then that which has already
passed in fee to the city that the city owns, the city is
taking action on and that's what we'll discuss later. In
addition to that there's
property that may be vacant and
folks think the city controls it but our partners actually
control it and that's what we're doing tonight is getting
updates from those agencies took property back in the
1990s. Thank you, george. Its good to see you in person.
george is usually in d.c. And we look at him on the screen
like the wizard of oz and I appreciate you being here in
person.
next is the orange county
rescue mission. Mr. Brian crain.
>> all right. Thank you, mayor,
mayor pro tem, counsel, city
staff, residents. It's my honor and privilege to be here
tonight. I was asked -- my name is brian crain, I'm the
president of the orange county rescue mission and I was asked
to give an update on our
development and the work that
has been done on our property, and here's the update. It was
completed in 2008, and we have been operating for 17 years
now. That said, people often
ask me what actually happens
there? I'm going to attempt --
there we go. I'm going to spend
-- I'm going to be brief. We are going to blaze through
this. So it's not 30 minutes for all six partners. People
drop off clothing donations at
the rescue mission and they say what actually happens there,
what goes on there? So it's my privilege to share in a few
minutes what happens at the village of hope. The village of
hope is a five-acre campus at
the corner of redhill and
valencia. We have the capacity for 387 beds and that is for
men, women, and children, who are coming out of a crisis
situation. That could be the
sudden loss of a job, it could be a drug or alcohol addiction,
it could be domestic violence
situation, even a human trafficking situation. We are
there to help people in these
situations. We are a christian ministry and it's our goal to
provide restoration, healing,
hope, to the people that we serve and to equip them with
the tools that they need to get back on their feet and to
become financially self-sufficient again. When
people come to the program they
are making a commitment this is not an emergency overnight
shelter. Generally people are with us for 18 to 24 months,
and during that time they want
access to counseling, sobriety coaching, vocational training,
education, all on the road to
financial self-sufficiency. We
are one of the only, if not the only, program of our kind in
orange county that a whole
family can do together, and we are the only program of our
kind, of our type of long
transitional program, that
allows for a single dad and his kids to go through the program.
in fact, right now we have four single dads and their kids
going through the program. So
when people come into the program, like I said, it's not
just food and clothing and shelter. We provide all kinds
of services. One of the wonderful things about being on
five acres is we have many services under one roof. People
have access to a medical clinic, they have access to counseling
every week with a licensed clinical social worker. We have
a partner with trinity law school that allows for
residents to have access to legal help. We have life skills
classes where people learn
about time management, resume
building, personal finance, personal budgeting. We do a lot
of vocational training, which I will talk about in the second
and education is a very
critical component. We offer every single adult that comes
through our program the opportunity to earn their high
school diploma, and that's through a long-standing
relationship with tustin
unified adult school, which has
been a tremendous partner and a blessing to probably hundreds
of our students at this point.
so a vocational training is a
key component. We want to launch people into careers; not
just jobs. Listed on the screen are some of the vocational
certificates people have pursued in the last few years or
industries they gone in to. We
also have great relationships with many employers in the city
of tustin. Patterson auto,
which owns tustin mazda and
hyundai employs six of our
graduates in sales. Auto tech,
administrative, and sales. And we are proud to be partnered
with employers in the city of
tustin. Volunteers. We cannot do this without volunteers,
which is why love standing in front of a group like this. If
you have a group, and I don't
care if it's your book group,
your family, your church, your school, your business, we want
to hear from you. We will be
out at a table at the end of
this and we want to talk to you. In
the last year we logged 17,000
individual hours -- 18,000
individual hours. 27,000 group
volunteer hours for a total of --
45,000 hours. We think that we provide a very
robust rewarding opportunity for your group and there are
countless organizations in the city of tustin who come and
participate, and we are glad to
have them, and we want to talk to you. The future of the
village of hope. We are fully developed but I get every
opportunity I can to say to the
council that we do see an opportunity for next step
housing for our program graduates. We will welcome the
opportunity to develop another
five acres on our dime to be
able to provide independent, safe, affordable housing to the
graduates of our program. And
we would operate the way we do at the village of hope, which
is 100% drug and alcohol free and we incorporate the elements
of community and accountability that has made that program so
successful. In closing, I want to thank the
city of tustin for being such
an amazing partner over many
many years. We estimate that
from 2008 when we opened until now
that 3200 men, women and
children have transitioned into stable housing by going through
the village of hope. The city of tustin has been a tremendous
partner both for the village of hope and the tustin veterans
outpost that has former military veterans and their
families. I would like to say that while we are the orange
county rescue mission and we
service people from all of the county, we are very proud to
live in tustin, to be
headquartered in tustin and to be partnered with a city that
truly cares for the people that
we serve. I could not be more proud. I myself am a resident
of tustin and I could not be more proud that our
organization is headquartered here in tustin. I believe that
my contact information -- there
we go. That is my contact
information and my phone
number, my email. If you are
interested in volunteering, we want to talk to you. If you
know someone -- link them to resources. If you are in a
position to donate five acres for nextstep housing, call me
immediately. I'm kidding.
grateful for the opportunity and I look forward to talking
to on the patio. Thank you.
>> thank you, brian. Do we have
any questions or comments?
>> I would like to make a quick comment. I don't know that you
mentioned it brian, but thank
you, because you guys actually operate a homeless shelter as
well, which is been a very successful program and sought
after by other cities. I want
to encourage anyone. Orange
county rescue mission is extremely special and I know it
is used as a model for other organizations. And a leader in
what you do and looking at the
success rate you're actually solving the problem. You're
making a difference. If anyone has the opportunity to go
volunteer, I know brian mentioned it five times and I
will mention it once more. It
is just as much for the kids
and families there as it is for yourself. To see what they're
going through to see the transformation is very
eye-opening and it is special what you are doing. If you
cannot make it -- it's a short engagement. You can go for a
half hour. There are a lot of
different ways to help out and
you can donate as well. It's a great program and thank you for
being in our community and
helping.
>> obviously, you're talking about five acres. What would
that look like and how many
homes would be there and how many families would be housed
and are they permanent homes for those families or is it
transitional?
>> [ inaudible ]
>> a lot of times graduates come out of the program and go
into a new career and they need
a couple of years to develop
their earning potential and to rise up to the point where
they're able to support their family with market rate
housing. There is a gap there
between starting a new career and being able to support your
family. So we would see it as
not in perpetuity. A definite nextstep and we operate similar
properties in the city of
orange and so but why tustin?
because our flagship campus is right there and we regularly --
we have 240 people in the
program and it would be -- a lot of times when people
graduate they have their kids
in tustin unified and they
start looking outwards to where else they might move, and then
they have to make a decision am I going to commute every day
back to the school that my kids are in. So that is why adjacent
to the village of hope would be
a blessing.
>> just to echo what councilmember gallagher said,
I've had the honor to support
the rescue mission and I've had
the honor to do it with my
daughters and my family. My oldest has graduated and is off
to college, but my youngest is a sophomore through national
charity league they do
volunteer hours. I've had the
pleasure of also attending one of the graduation ceremonies.
absolutely very impactful and very powerful and it pulls on
your heartstrings to see the
journey and the life journey that these people make over 18
months and the work that you do
is tremendous. Excuse me. I
would say, that came out of nowhere. As far as volunteering
we have also volunteered during thanksgiving to serve meals,
and I cannot say that there is a better way to appreciate the
blessings that you have is to
go there and actually serve meals to the residents, talk to
them, get to know them. And to amplify what you said, if you
have a chance to volunteer, especially on thanksgiving,
it's a wonderful experience.
thank you for what you do.
>> we have a 5k turkey trot on
thanksgiving and we have --last year we had over 1000
people run is a great opportunity to bring your
family.
>> I just want to say
congratulations on the success.
I thought george has a longer track record than I do in the
city with the base. I started
in 2002, and I remember
converting those marine barracks into the original
campus in the plans for that
and going through it and creating just an incredible
campus. If you have not been there, you need to check it
out. Once you check it out, you
will want to volunteer. Make sure you keep his number and
contact information.
>> next on our list is the south
orange county community college district.
>> good afternoon, or
evening, I guess. Thank you mayor lombard and city council
members for allowing us to
present you tonight. I am the
vice chancellor business
services with the south orange county community college
district and I have my
colleague here. He is our
executive director of facilities planning, and in the
audience we have one of our board members who actually
serves the city
of tustin... I'm sure you are familiar with him. We are very
lucky to have him. We have a
short presentation for you tonight.
the south orange county community college district we
have three campuses. The newest
one is here at atep and some of
the land from the reuse act. We
have about 61 acres that we are trying to develop and our main
campus is at saddleback college in mission viejo and we have
irvine valley college in
irvine, the district itself is
the largest in area of the four
community college districts within orange county. Covering
about 382 square miles. We
serve 15 different cities,
which includes tustin as well as north tustin and about seven
unincorporated areas. Annually
we serve about 54,000 students.
there we go. And we just opened
two new buildings over at atep
this week, yesterday actually.
culinary arts facility as well
as our automobile advanced technology building has been
opened and we are happy to say we have about 200 students
there. Brand-new students to the area and we hope that will
help. I will let mr. Efraim go
over everything that we do at
the atep site.
>> good evening, everyone. This is, I believe,
our third presentation to the lra and it's fun to see the
community and present to the community on the work that we
have done. Previous slides we've had just to share with
the community in our 61.4 acres that we have there were about
41 former navy buildings that we've demolished over the
years. In 2015 about 36 and in
2023 the rest about six of them. All of the navy buildings
have been demolished on our site. Work that we've done on
site, infrastructure work is
mostly on the fee land but some
that we've built roads,
roundabouts, electrical we worked with edison to have that
set up. Storm, sewer,
drainpipes. We did a lot of
that work prior to our buildings coming online. Most
of that work was in 2018. In 2020 as some of you may have
seen it, we installed some of
the wayfinding monument signage as well. That got installed as
well. One of our new
buildings known as the idea building was completed in
2018 and they've been having classes since then.
approximately 1200 students this fall right now. That is
good. Prior to that we did have
classes across the street where
we did used to teach classes there. But now we moved here
and have been teaching here
since then. The goddard school,
last year at this time they had just barely opened. They are
here at the booth with us as well. That is an exciting
program that they've started. They've been here a year now.
they have about 100 students,
which is exciting and they are growing. It is a great asset
and program for the community ongoing basis. Next are at this
time hopefully that will be
about 300. Saddleback is an
absolutely exciting program.
this is saddleback college
building the new culinary and automobile program. We are
excited about that. We just had the event opening and
ribbon-cutting last monday and classes just started yesterday.
and casey is here if anybody wants to talk to her about our
program and what we have going
there. Classes were in full session yesterday morning at
7:30 a.m. This program will I'm
sure quadruple in size in the
years to come so we are very excited about it. We did
prepare a quick slideshow. So if you don't mind we can show
you.
>>> I think just to add to that the
college is starting to
work with the community in local dealerships
and
restaurants to partner with everybody
to engage them
so this will be an exciting program. The
next slide that we have
here is advantech. They an
information technology company. This
will be their north
american office they are building
right south of
victory. A ten acre parcel so we are very
excited
about that. They are full on in
construction mode. The left side picture that
you see would be
the head quarter building and then
next to it would be
a warehouse building. We are excited
about
that. We are going to partner with them
as soon as
they open soon. So exciting
to hear. Future developments. We are
working with two
groups now. I would say
at its infancy. The
two that we --one of them victory
ai academy. It's a milledl
aged students school. They
are sandwhiched between red hill and
armstrong right
north of victory. Pretty large
site that will have
academic buildings and athletic fields so
we are excited to
partner with them. They are going
to be
a lot of domestic and international
students
they will go after but domestic, country
wide. We are excited to work with
them as well. More to come
on that. This is at --I would
say it's infancy. The next group we are
working with is top tennis management. This
is
a tennis academy. We are
excited working with they are right
south of valencia. We are excited
to work with them. There will
be academic buildings. I failed to
mention the
prior group will have dorms for
the students that will stay on site
this group is also looking
at having dorms
on site. Again early stages of discussions
with them
but we are hoping to complete
and negotiate that through. This slide
we kind of wanted to kind of give
you a picture of what the atep site
looks like. It looks
like if
you will. If our last two slides we talked
about
were victory ai and top tennis. We will
have built out all of the atep which
is a huge milestone wore the district
and our students, the community and
for them to be able to
use it. This is currently what it
looks like. The advantech south of victory
is under construction. The victory
and negotiations is under
negotiations and then the buildings
in the middle
are completed. You can start --that's
currently what
the
site looks like. Questions?
>> I appreciate
the presentation. I don't
have a question. I have
an observation. Back in 2021 the council
put you
under the gun. What is going on? Why
don't we have
any development happening out there
in the last four years we
have seen both the car
and culinary arts be planned and constructed
and open
which is
fantastic. I appreciate the leaning
forward into
other potential uses
and
education uses. Thank
you. Additional comments, questions?
>>
yeah. Congratulations
on the success since
2021. It's amazing to see how far
you have come. Just
a couple of items I want to highlight
since we have a lot of
the public here. The work you are
doing. The development and the
access. There's a limitation. It has to
be --there's a part
that can be noneducation, a part that
must
be education focused which is what
paints
what the options they have there and
you did a
great job in identifying use that
meet those. I wanted to
point out advantech is a big win
for the tustin community. I remember
at the time
the ground breaking the
jeb manager for north america, not
sure the title but 400
high paying jobs will becoming to
the city through this.
>>
let's take a couple minute recess real quick until
we can handle this situation right there.
>>> 400 high paying jobs. I think
that's where
we left. 400. Very exciting. I want
to say congratulations
to you on all the work you are doing. It's
a
private academy and victory
ai. I know those are private uses. If
at all possible
there's ways to partner with, you know we
have
schools nearby that have no --we
have the legacy magnet academy that
has no
fields, right or limited fields. No
sports. If there is
any way to partner with the other
stake holders we have
at the base I'm sure you will be thinking
about
that. Be great to find those early
as
you
guys mentioned. Thank you.
>> thank you. Thank
you. My question. We were both
agent
the academies. So, sort of about both
of
them. Are those sort of --who do
those serve? Are they like boarding
schools if you will for
-- for students and are they regular
schools like school
year schools or specifically
focused and then, secondly, are
those long term --round lease was
the district? Is
that how the transaction will --is
seen
at this point?
>>
those would belong term ground leases
with recurrently in negotiations with
them on. As far as
the students they would
serve they
are private institutions. There is
an aspect of it that would be boarding schools
and so you would have international
and domestic students. I think it
would serve family was in tustin
as well. I will say that
as a private institution
they will be pricey if I
can say that. So I
think that it'll serve potentially
a niche population of who they will
be bringing forward but it is
part
of an international programming that
they have
where they do have schools
throughout the pacific rim and they
are trying to bring --this will
be their first school with in
california that they want to close the
loop on the pacific
rim classes that they do have. That's
for victory
ai, yes. As far as the tennis academy again
that
is
a private institution. They are more
-- I
would say liken
to training athletes to excel in
tennis and to
compete internationally as well as
professional. So, you know
kind of when I talk to them what comes in
to mind is
--they go to houston to train for the
olympics. That's how I see and wrap
my head around
what the tennis academy is going to
be.
>>
the scope of that campus or facility. Looks
like it would be a place for
the t
ustin open in the
future.
>>
potentially.
>> I have seen
the proposals
for victory ai. There's also
a focus on trades when you take
a look at the technical aspects. Vehicles
today are computers. They are
high tech. Again, very happy to see
the
culinary, tech patrols focusing on
some of
the 21st
applications
with ai. This next generation of learning
and
--business so thank you
very much.
>> I'm impressed
with the speed subpoena development of the
past couple
of years. Between
your board and -- you know the speed
and development. I'm sure the
board was pushing on that. You have
good leadership that's going forward
and
I think just all excellent choices
to
be there and they -- they
really --effect other thing that
are going on
in the old base. Whatever else is
going on. It's a
nice kind of play with the other
uses that are happening. It's nice.
>>
yeah. I
will say that I started with
the district in 2017 and one of the
first things that the
chancellor at the time said was a
temperature baby and you are responsible for
developing
it. I have been working hard to try
to develop
it and I'm super
excited with the --what
we see. If we can bring the last two
ground
leases to pass then we will have completely
built out
the entire 61 acres which I will be
extremely proud of.
>> all right. Thank
you. We are looking forward to seeing
what comes next. Thank you very much
for your
presentation, sir. Next.
>>
next we
rancho
santiago community college district.
good evening, mayor. The city council
staff and
our community partners. My name
is ernie gomez. I'm the associate
dean
of the criminal justice department which
is part of the
community college district. What you have
on the slides is
the our location at armstrong avenue
and it's
known as the
orange county regional training academy we
have
had a longstanding partnership
with the orange county
department. With me is the director
of facilities
from
our college district. He will --discuss
further of the development of
the property. A little of
the background. The partnership is
over 50 plus years
and the training academy started in the
city of
orange which is a cross from the honda
center if you
can picture that. It became kind of
transient. They
are visiting different locations
throughout the county. We came --
the land
here in tustin became
available to sleep and build our academy which
is part
of the college. Every recruit that comes
through
that academy is a student receiving
29 credits for
that academy and a certificate
of the academy. The city police department
are part
of the community, matter of fact of
the three
academy classes on site currently there
are 135 recruits, two of them are
your city of
tustin police officer recruits. We
are
just been class 265. We are
middle of 266, 267, 268. We have
three academy classes on campus right
now. It
sevens throughout orange county and
portions
of la
county agencies. We
--the training is through
post which is a peace officer training which dictates
the training given to the recruits. We
mirror
that with the college. They receive
the college credit. Quickly the
construction started in to
2005. It was dedicated september
11th, as original training center. There's a
little bit of
background. I will turn it over to
tae and he will discuss
more of the
property.
>>
thank you. I'm director of facilities
and
planning
for the district. Very briefly
I will talk about the property itself. Wa
got
it back in
2003. 15 acres of it and it was
permitted for
educational use and purposes. What
you see here on
the screen is the original concept
that was
developed back in 2003. You will see
that we developed a majority of
that site already. What's remaining
is about three acres of
undeveloped land that you see on the
northern portion of
the photograph there. And with all
the new challenges facing
law enforcement and first responders
we have been looking at what
type of facility should be placed on that
undeveloped
portion of the
site. We currently have approval to develop
a 20,000 square foot public safety
institute
at
that
location. And we just recently completed
a
feasibility study at what could go on
that side including
the public safety institute. We looked
at
adding and
incorporating a
physical agility test preparedness
structure along
with a running track, fitness and
skill as sessionsment area, wellness
facilities
and instructional classrooms and support
of
the academy. Cybersecurity training,
also
disaster, critical incident, preparedness
response
courses and facilities to support
that. The
good news recently is that the
state chancellor's office approved
the
location as a center which means
that it opens up funding
for the location on a yearly basis
and opens
up
the opportunity to apply for mass
funding
for development facilities. With that
we kept
it brief as much as possible and you
have any questions we will take that
now.
>> thank you
for the presentation. I was a graduate
of reserve class 22 romeo
there so aware
of the facility.
>>
just in your thinking
about the
new structure that's going open. Have
you
thought about possibly along with
the institute doing
like a first responder history
or resume portion
in that?
>> there is
a portion of the
--that has some item that are museum related at
the
front of the entrance way. The sheriff's
--opened the bell center on the other side,
the westside and
they are making that --so -- we will
have
some historical things there. Matter
of fact class one. Class one
from 1965 has their photographs on
the wall
in the academy halls which I would love
you to come look at. A lot of
these thing that are there that
will
remain there.
>>
yeah. Lot of things there. Yeah.
>>
you can give us
any concept of the timeline for that
development
for the remaining three acres? I know
you are looking for funding. Is is
there a target
date?
>> we are looking at a phased
approach
right now. That might be
--that might involve covering up the third
patch
that's existing currently and then slowly bringing
in some to the facilities in preparation
for
a permanent facility. Timeline wise
we
have nothing concrete right now. We
need
to explore the budget and
planning process itself.
questions? All right. Thank you very much
for your presentation.
all right. Next we
have tustin unified school district.
good afternoon and good evening. I'm the
chief financial officer
for the tustin school district. With
me I have our director of
facilities and planning. So we are grateful
for the opportunity to stand before
you today
to provide an undate from our district
on the
progress that we are making
and have made on the land that was
convoyed
during the unwinding of
the marine corp air station. So, today
we are going
to share momentum that
is building in tustin to meet the needs
of students and family
in the years ahead. We are also
going to review and detail some of
the work that
is already happened at the properties.
we are super excited because we had the opportunity
to welcome
our kids back for the 25-26 school
year and that's
always a great energy builder to
carry us through the heavy lifts that
we have throughout
the year. Seeing the smiling faces,
welcoming the
kids back. Heading into this year
we reflected on
the momentum that we built over the
last several years and
we carry that momentum in to
the new school year but also in to
the future. So
you can see our logo there shows the
momentum in terms of the energy, the
movement of a wave and reminding our
students
and staff and community
that in tustin we lead with
optimism and team work. So in the
next couple slides I will share a
few examples
of
momentum in tustin. Here over the
past
several years really our amazing students
have
continued to excel in
many areas. You can see on the slide
language
arts and math scores have gone up over
the past
three years. The number of english
learners who
reclassified from english learners
to
english proefficient have
gone up. The a through g completion
rate which
is the completion needed for eligibility to
enter
the uc or cal state system. Those
numbers have
gone up with our students as well as
the
number of advanced placement tests
that our students take
and those tests
provide college credits for students entering college
after high school. We
have an increasing number of senior
who
are graduating with their career
technical, education court. Not only
are they looking at
college but they are also looking
at the trades
and other opportunities. Some of our
partners have mentioned
this evening. Then also in partnership
with some
of the partners that presented earlier
this evening
the number of students taking college
level courses while they are attending
high school have gone
up as well. We are excited about that
momentum
and we are looking to
how it looks into the
future. Another piece is we are grateful
to
the community. Our community and their
support for measure j
which is a general obligation bond for
$261 million. That provides
investment to improve the school facilities. Measure
j
funds will slowly be used for the
schools letting us upgrade classrooms,
repair
and upgrade aging infrastructure and
provide safety and security at all
campuses. We are
excited that work is already started.
we are
in the planning phases for the first
phase of school. Under measure
j as well as we have started the installation
of many safety at our
school across tust. These resources
let us modernize
the facilities, expand our capacity
and deliver
on our commitment to create
great learning environments for all
students. With that I will let you
know
that a critical
part of our progress has started,
with the
development of some of the land at
the former marine
corp. Air station.
>>> thank you and going mayor,
members of the council and members of
the community. I'm the director of
facilities and planning for the district. A
lot of the momentum that
harold has shared about what we
are doing in tustin is
definitely reflected in what's going on
in the facilities.
I wanted to
share that. First of all we want --
our story with
the legacy development starts with
our land
to us for
heritage elementary school. That land
was convoyed
to us in 2002
after some planning, some false starts
and
a structure in 2011 which was
eventually opened as heritage elementary in
2016. Just a little bit about some
of the good work that's going
on in
heritage elementary. It's a steam
magnet
school. It has about -- about two
thirds of the
enrollment now is residents of legacy
and also
is a very attractive destination for
students throughout
the district to come and participate
in their program such as progress based
learning
other things that are just exciting
thing that are going on
at that facility. Their
current enrollment is at 590 and
while the district continues to experience
declining enrollment
overall that school continues to have
a robust
enrollment that continues to
grow. I also did just want to mention
as
part of our 550 students to kind of
tie in with
the -- with the
-- partners that we do have --we
do service the --the
-- the orange --we service the --
the
city of hope, excuse me. So,
that's kind of a high into what
we do. Moving onto legacy
magnet academy. We --that is also another
school that
continues to gain momentum as well
as
enrollment. It was completed for the
start of the
2021 school year. It --
of the students that
are 964 students we have there,
approximately
--sorry. 675 of them
the lma doesn't have any cif sports but
with
the completion of our gym
building in 2023, we are able to host
a lot
of events there. Probably one of
the biggest events we host
is robotics tournaments. It's a huge
part of tustin
and the
legacy magnet academy. We also on
the theme of partnership legacy has
a partnership
with irvine valley and about 850 students
at
legacy magnet academy from
grade 7 to 12 are taking college classes and
all
of our legacy students graduate with
a
dual aa and their high school
diploma. That's a great fireman we
continue
to participate with ib c on that is exciting
for
our students and community. Then
so looking at
the slide the --we show
our -- information about our current
district office. While
we were planning and building
our legacy facilities we were looking
at doing
some maintenance work, improving our district
office facility and as part
of the routina ceasement that we were
doing in preparation for work we discovered
some fairly serious issues as far
as
the structure of the building. As
a result
of that we have had --we spent
the last three years
talking very intimately as a district about
how we
want to dress that issue and
in case you are asking yourself why
that factors in to
the legacy --the tustin legacy presentation
I
will turn it back over to
explain how tustin legacy fits
into that assessment
we have been
doing.
>> okay. Thank you
tom. Just for the information tom
has --
heritage and is at the lake so he
knows these programs
very well. With that we are looking at
the future. Now legacy magnet the
admin building space has been constructed. We
have added the
gym
and ct building.
so the
slide before you explains that we
are currently in the planning
efforts for a new district education
center that is going to
be
located at the seven
acre parcel. Our community we have
actively started
the
planning process for that property. So
with
that we have also --we
have been in contact -- been in contact with the
city in regards to their
plans for the legacy
--legacy area related to developments,
development
that would generate students
for our education alpha silts. We
are looking at
what those impacts and studying what
they -- to determine
what will be the program and facility
needs going forward. Lastly as
was referenced earlier there
is a small 1.1-acre property that
is part of the
plan for the district as all of
the partners are affected by this we
are waiting for
the disposition by the navy so
we can determine what --what the uses
will be
for that property. Unfortunately we
don't have a clear
timeline. It's the navy. God
bless them. We want to make sure that
we are
continuing to monitor that and identity
uses
for those properties into
the future. With that we --
wanted to talk about
ongoing challenges related to the
developments that
were discussed. As tom shared the enrollment at both
schools is nearing
capacity. It's really limiting options
particularly as
we are thinking about new sleepment and
we are looking -- to determine what
are some of
the creative solutions to house
new students. We have increased demand
in education
for support spaces, after school programs
which all take
--have demands, place demands
on the facilities. Safe roots to schools. They
are always a
priority for our neighborhoods. Especially in
this
area. We are pleased to report that
--the city
has been a great
partner this opening the
admonition offet extension. Transgress
onto the legacy property. We
appreciate the partnership with the
city
and with that we thank you for your
time and I will
take any questions.
>> thank you. Thank you both
and
I appreciate you --that last slide
I think you addressed a lot of the
comments we made last year about capacity
and safe
routes to school. I can share with
you that the council
two weeks ago approved
authorizing staff to go out forbid
for
the armstrong bridge. We are moving
forward in the
armstrong bridge or -- the base bridge
program
and I know that bring will be a
big help for legacy. Understanding
the needs for the
administrative space because of the
aging and the root problems. I
think it would be a
shame to see that before may and the
community feels the
same way. We don't want to
see the rest built. Exploring and how
you
will house additional students. We
have a
ton of housing and I know you are
aware of that. They will need a
place to go. Certainly the second
half of
the students is --a real
near term. I just want
to recognize. Superintendent johnson
is somewhere. Weighstrying to
get in the wrong door. Is he in the back
over there
now. He is here and if northbound
wanted to pepper
him with questions during open house
I'm sure he
will stick around. Any more
comments or questions? >
>> I appreciate his
chants about
classroom space. I'm glad to hear
that. I was wondering
about that. Timing for you call it
is district
education. I guess that's the fancy
words for,
you know district headquarters. What
--
do you have an idea on
the time frame and what --not quite
legacy but what would
happen to the
existing headquarters?
>> so great
questions. Both --the --we don't have
a timeline we are working
through the process with the governing
board and we
will be sharing updates with the community
in terms
of what timelines
would look like. As such because we
are still occupying the current district
office we
do not have any plans for disposition
at this
point. I think that once we are further
along
in the process on --where we will eventually
go
--we will start to
formulate any ideas about this existing space
and the other thing I would add to
the
mayor's comments is, you know, the
other
sort of peace --we are here for legacy
is that measure j. We have in addition
to what's happening at legacy. We
have
important work that's happening at school sites
as part
of the phase one to bring the older schools
up to a certain standard and in alignment with
some of
the newer schools and --
so, ourschools are our priority and
recognize and appreciate that confidence.
>>
comments?
>> thank you for the presentation. I
am -- a
proud father of two daughters who
went
to pioneer and peter's canyon. Had
a
great academic experience. Thank you
very much. Mark johnson and
the rest of the teachers did a
good job educating my daughters. You
did mention
measure j. I'm glad to see that money
will be set aside
for schools to bring the schools up to speed
and code. I wanted to ask
about school safety since something that's been important to
me and I know that
part
of those measure j dollars are going
toward school safety enhancements. I
want to get a sense of how much will
be dedicated to schools and other
safety measures and are you able
to talk about and what of the enhancements might
be?
>> great question. While I
can't give you a specific dollar amount because
those things
sort of changing I can say that we
are already started to
make those investments in the school. We --
as part of the --measure j we always want
to commit to our community that we
are going to put the dollars to work
as soon as we can and
we thought security enhancements was
the first place
to start. So, all
of our schools received
access controls, upgrades which essentially
for those that
have ring cameras at your homes it is
a --
a camera based system where we can
see out and we
can buzz people, visitors into
it. No longer can anyone just walk
up to a door and sort of access
our facilities. They have to be
let in. So that's --that's one
phase. In addition when we think about
making hard
targets we are
expanding cameras. Not
all school sites have
camera systems. Over the next several
summers we will
continue to expand installations on existing
campuses
and then adding two campus that don't
currently
have the systems in place. There is
--
there's a long process involved in identifying
the right system that will work for
what we
need to do and so I'm proud to
say that our work has started and
we have with these measure
j dollarsprioritized
safety.
>> as you go
through the evaluations are
you working with tustinpd as well?
>>
great. Thank you.
>>
yeah. Just to piggy back on
that the camera installations. A couple
of goss
a tour of the county location and they
have camera system that integrate
at
school low cases to they can get
access to a situation -- realtime
data
and I would hope that --in your camera
installation coordinating tustin that
we have that
integration.
>> camera systems in
this day and
age are high quality and allow for
a
lot of integration
and so absolutely our assistant
superintendent at admin services he
is leading
our safety improvements. Him and his
team have been doing a
great job ofvetting and actually
working with stake holders to mechanic
sure we put the right
systems in place to secure campuses.
>>
additional comments, questions? All
right. Thank you.
>>
appreciate it.
>> all right I understand because
the councilmembers
are talking to much we are a little
behind time I would like to
invite the city of t ustin
to
come up and present.
>> good evening
mayor, council,
members of the community. I will try
to be quick I --I get the pleasure of
talking
about
the city's economic conveyance property. I
will
touch on a few topics briefly on what's
been developed
what's remaining. Talk about some
of our recently
completed projects with reexcited
to share. Active
projects we
are excited to share. So just quickly you
have
heard from a lot of our partners. This
is a
map of tustin legacy. This is on the
website as well
showing everything that's been
built to date. Jorge went through
the background. You can see a
lot of the red property. They
have been discussed. What does the city
have
left? Everything you see in purple here
is part
of the city's economic development
property and I will touch on a lot
of projects with
in these purple areas this are about
to be completed or
are coming up
online here
shortly. Recently completed projects. Just
you can
throw a rock hit it. We have the dog
park that just opened
up earlier this year. First dog park in
the
city. It's frequented by a lot
of tustin residents. About a --
just under a two million dollars project. Look
forward
to seeing more people out there
in the future. One thing that george
touched on and also our fines is the
city council
just recently approved a specific plan
amendment
in tustin legacy. Part of the broader
city wide
housing rezone. You hear on the news a
lot of cities
are having to deal with adding new
residential
units to accommodate all of
the new requirements for the state. You
can see in
the various neighborhoods, 200 units were
added to neighborhood
g, 1900
to neighborhood e. There's the it
is total
numbers. Active projects. One project
you probably drove by on
your way here. A lot of craters and dirt
being moved around. The neighborhood
infrastructure project. A big
creating operation putting in new
utilities. Cutting new street that
will be setting up a number of projects. We
will
talk about a senior product
and setting up that project. The next
phase of
tustin legacy park. Some power for
the south
hanger. This is estimated to we complete by
the end
of the current
calendar year. I mentioned a senior
project. We
are working with a senior developer. This is
a kind of two
part project one is an active adult
which is independent
living for seniors. About 170. The
other half of the project is
for assisted living and memory
care. More of commercial type use. They
will be operated
by clearwater with a couple of communities
here. One in
north tustin and one in newport beach. It's
about a six
acre site. We
are working through the
business deals for
that. Mention the armstrong avenue
pedestrian bring. Something
you drove by was two big mounds
over armstrong. That will be for a
future pedestrian bridge that will
connect the first part of the park
in to the second
part of the park which I touched on
earlier. Mounds
out there to settle for a little bit
and then they will
be cut back and the project is out
to
bid looking to
have construction going by 2026. The
next part
will be coinciding with that bridge and
other improvements. It's
a five acre park site. It'll have
a
few different zones. Right now we are
working through the
final design drawings, looking to have
it out to bid
in early 2026 and construction
following shortly after that. Really
exciting project that
the council approved early their year
is going to be
a project
with the irvine company. 25% of those
will be for lower income households. Part of one
of
the state's requirements
for public property. There will be
a publicly accessible park, and
will really help the city with
this project specifically. We are working
through final issues with
the company looking to close early
in 2026
and
starting construction shortly after that. Some things coming
down the pike we
are working on is a offering for corner
stone
two. Just across the park is a 52-acre site. We
are working with ccp real estate
and srs real state. This will be an
offering for most likely a retail project
with
other mixed uses. The offering was
released earlier this
year with city council blessing looking
to have them in
the next week or two. More
updates shortly after
that. Some pending offerings we are
working on. The projects --the
properties noted in purple. We are
looking at 21 acres in neighborhood
e which is just across the
site here from flight. Then 24 acres
in
neighborhood d south which is
just across next to the landing community. Both
of them will more than likely be released
later this
year in fall. The
hanger sites specifically. Gorge
touched on this. South hanger is owned
by the navy. A lot of the environmental
issues we talked about. The city has
used that
building for a lot of temporary uses in
the past. There's
been a lot of filming and community
event that have
happened in there, nothing on a
longer term basis. We did a structural
assessment
and reuse analysis
in 2014 that looked add --temporary
uses
up to big full
occupance sincerity
occupancy. We are looking at a lot
of different ways of
doing that. What are things moving
forward. We are looking at
a lot of
temporary upgrades, electrical, and
other improvements we will
talk about shortly. The biggest thing
we are working on is
in response to the north hanger fire
what are ways
we can harden or just better protect
the south
hanger moving forward? I put a list together
on the slide here of all
the things that the city and the
city council approved since the north
hanger
fire. We have on side security. We
have mobile
camera trailers. We have lights
co located. We have temporary power
to provide power
to the egress. We modified
some of the
egress. There's razor wire around
the building. We have a fire panel
and fire alarm system. We have water
and hydrants for the building as well. What
are the costs? We have the costs for each
the
past fiscal years or the last two
and
the current one. The
cameras are on a rental basis. Lighting
and you can see all the other costs. About
just over a million dollars
a year and just kind of ongoing rentals
and basic security
for
the south hanger. We have also looked
at
some bigger improvements to help harden
the building,
more of a property approach. We looked
at permanent electric
sincerity. We completed design. It's
a million and a half
construction site. We have permanent
outside cameras. The
designs part
of the electricity package.
the additional hydrants and -- that
will be one and a half
and then we are working on a
complete fire technical analysis
report. All those improvement also
be five and a half to six molasses that
are just going into better protecting the
building on
a one time basis. That doesn't increase
the use of the
building if that makes sense. We are
looking protecting it under these improvements. Not
making
easier to
use.
>> so, an option that --options
we have been wrestling with
here is do we want to keep renting the
things,
the cameras, lights or should we move
in those directions
of the permanent installations of the projects
I just listed. The
graph on the list show itself you
just
keep going the rental route --that million
and a half on a
yearly basis. You spent about $10
million over the next
several million years. You want mortgage
of the
permanent installation routes. You
are
looking at a 14, $15 million
in the next several years. This is
just focused on property protection
that wouldn't
make the building more usable than
it currently is.
>> quick on the south hanger ly
move to
the north hanger site. George talked
about this. This
is about an 85-acre site. The city
doesn't have
a lease on this. We have a license that
lets you go out and
trim some of
the weeds. Get better line of sight. The
regional park
use was removed as george mentioned. We
are going through a
reuse planning process. Options for
the
community to consider here shortly in
the near
future. In conjunction with the communication
process where they
are collecting a lot of your input
for what you want to see on
the north and south hanger sites and how
to communicate that bet
we are the community. Just to know
as george said we --the city will
plan it but we may
end up taking the properties. We are
going to come up
with a plan and develop -- whether
that's
the city, partially to the city or not
the city at all.
>>
my last two slides were focused on
the
north hanger fire. Wanted to address
this for the community. Take the
opportunity. We know that the fire
started on
november 7th. Burned for 24 days. Lot
of debris went
into around the property
and the community. Investigation is
closed. November
10th the city council called a specialmeeting
and the navy's request the
city council signed up to take on
the responsibility for cleaning up
the responsibility into all of
the nearby neighborhoods. They have
a
cooperative agreement for contractors bringing
all
the debris removal the air monitoring and
the legal
and project management all that as
part of the cooperative management
and all the clean unoverseen by all
the regulatory agencies I
won't list the soup. There's a lot.
there was multiple rounds
of clean up. City and contractors
would take requests
for the community. Assess, clean up
and then assess to make
sure it was cleaned up correctly. There
was a final east
with the above ground route where
the regulator said if you go
out and make sure there's nothing else on
roofs and gutter
that would be sufficient to get everything done. What we
found is
that we would clean a house and then you
winds would
happen and more debris
would fall down. The above ground
effort was a one time
last effort to finish. That work was
completed
earlier this year. Also the navy's
contract,
the navy issued a contract to clean
up the debris in the hanger
foot print. That was an $18
million contract. Their work was done
earlier and
back in july just a month ago. All
work by the city
and the navy is done for on site and
community
clean up. In the report writing phase
with
all of the regulatory issues that
all the
efforts done were sufficiently protective
of
health and
the iron environment. To date the
navy paid us
just shy of $80 million. This is kind of
the tuned to thank the council for all
the work. The staff, everybody who
is on site the day of,
the days following. The
weeks knowledging. Congresswoman kim
was important in our
conversation was the navy and other
regulatory agencies,
the navy staff who I spent
a number of countless hours on
the phone with. Tusd
on school closures, school openings,
their investigation and then all
of the partners I forgot to list, list
and all of the community members with our
patients and understanding
this is kind of
a very unique situation. That's my
presentation. I would be happy
to take any questions.
>>
thank you. You jumped through a
lot in a very quick and concise timeline. If
you have additional questions from
the public that's what the open
house is for. Really we will have
a
public comment opportunity here but
staff, and the council I think
most of us if not all of us will be
available to talk
to you about more in details and what the
city is doing
in our efforts so thank you. Do we
have
questions or
comments for ken?
>> yeah. Kent, thank
you for this. Thank you to everybody
who is worked on
this from the city. You were talking
about the
costs for a full
--they are somewhat out dated numbers
but it's a baseline to rehab
this hanger. There's also -- there
was also an estimate for
cost of taking it down which is what
was
it? Somewhere in the $40 million neighborhood?
>>
yeah.
>> not confirmed. >>
not confirmed. 20 to $40 million or
a
similar hanger
up in sunnyvale. The moffet, nasa. There's
two hangers
up there.
>>
there's just cost. It's important
to know and we don't where
--we have have a lot of activity at
the
south hanger. Do we have an active marketing
plan for the
south hanger uses this time?
>> right
now on
the city's website is listed as we aren't
accepting rentals. With very some
legacy
tenants who
know the operation. Understand the
operation and
the sensitivities. One of those groups
that we take everything on a case
by
case basis.
>> okay. Just expand on
that more. With the north hanger fire the
city has
taken all the measures. We didn't
want a
lot of people walking in and out of the
south hanger until it was safe
and secure. More questions and comments?
>>
I wanted to kind of --you went through
that really
quickly I appreciate the presentation. On the
city's front you
can get prepare to ask us questions
and tell us we are doing a bad
job if you want to. We have
got --about a hundred acres on
the market now between corner
stone and 52 acres and flight
2.0 by is 24 acres. That
is a result of staff and the council
getting on the same
page and saying we can't sit around
and let the
property we do control just sit empty we
need
to develop it and get to
it. In the vein I was talking about
earlier. We were holding our partners
accountable for construction
and he we wanted to
be account build to the city to the
residents and to
the community. Thank you staff forgetting
on board with
that and really pushing the ball. We
take a lot of momentum that
you have seen in the slides and it'll
be exciting over
the next two to five years as the
projects start to go
vert val and have a lot
of the amenities. Have a lot
of the addition --the company project.
it was up to
25, 30 years. Now we are talking a
shorter
timeline. We want to make sure all
of the partners are engaged and we
are
in lock step in how we
develop the base. Everybody asks about
the hangers. We ask about
the hangers. We had the
fire which put a
big -- main reality what we have feared and
--we
have the costs that councilmember
fink
was talking about just to keep the
south
hanger safe. The city has a financial
obligation that we can't pay for in
short term leases. We do
car commercials. We have $30,000. The
defense costs over a million dollars
to install. We are taking a hard local
and we committed as a council and
city organization to talk
with our public about real financial numbers
that
you saw on the slides. What it means
to keep the hanger
standing which we would all like. Most of
us would like. What
it means to potentially have to take
it down and also
what the risk is that we just bore
--the navy just bore with having the
north hanger
burnt. A lot of stuff coming up in
the
near future and hopefully you are
seeing this. Are the slides
going to be available online on the website? We
had -- you know six presentations
today and I sat through
two hours of fire hose of content
f you want to
revisit some of that you can go on
the website and check out
the slides. I will turn it over to
city manager
for some closing comments and
we will take
public comments. If there aren't any
we will move into the open house to
have a more casual dialogue.
>>
I want to thank all our partners for
the presentations
tonight. With that I will turn it
back to you to open
public comment.
>> thank you. So we
are going to take
public comment. If you want to make
a formal comment on the record you can come
up
to the microphone here and address the
lra
on anything that we just discussed. I
don't know if we
have any requests to speak.
>>
we have one request to speak in person
and
then it's william johnson.
>> okay. If
you
want to speak and you haven't filled
--do we have cards?
>> we do. >>
if you want to speak and you haven't
filled out a card you can
come up here and speak and then fill out
a card or fill out
a card and then
come speak. Mr.
johnson, go head.
>> just because
of restrictions please try to keep your
comments to three minutes or less
if
you can. Thank you.
>> thank you
very much. We're in a rush so I will try
to slow
everything down for a second. Momentum,
team work, those are great themes
by the school
district thank you
very much. I will start on refugee
and in
fo rt ress, in spirit we
can trust. In ardo r and thanksgiving
come have
a beer
with us. An
athlete graduate from t ustin
in 02. I
competed internationally. I moved
my city
here with an outbarred the future, very
excited to hear this
deep discussion this evening. Thank you
to
all the public servants and to those who
spoke I'm here on
a topic of history. I wanted to put
in the public mind that this
week important historical event
is happening. Tustin high school will
open
it's home football game against
the tritons. They the 11th ranked
team
in california. We can beat them we
have the horses to do
it. I would like to invite everybody
in the spirit of community
to come to that game. At half
time of that game melissa
trout has worked to build
a hall of fame for tustin and
it's athletes. We will honor the third inducte
into that organization. The first
was coach miller
who
made the team. The third
is chris chester, a dear personal friend of
minute and I carry
the duty of organizing the community
of
supporters around him. A lot of important
topics
on the topic of the future and these
new technologies
which we are
going
to find education. I was taught that
really
great businesses and great futures formed
not
on new technologies but on ancient
technology that don't. As we all talk
here about forming community and the lots
of land we are
parceling up I invite everybody to
think about
tribes and which tribe you support and
I invite you to support my
tribe, the tailors. Join us please
at an ancient
gathering, newly formed called game
craft. Have you been talking about. I
support that. They are working with
simple technologies
like parkbenches
and beers. Locally brewed beers. You
can
join us at 5:00 for that or 7:00 for
the kickoff and
half time celebration. I believe
that these technologies transforming
in ways
we don't truly understand. I believe
the redevelopment
of tustin is one of the most important
topics we have so thank you
for the
leadership. I believe that there are topic
that are far bigger being discussed
in the national state and local level
that all
politics is local so I'm happy to
be here. I
would be happy to talk to anyone that
wants
to come talk football or anything
else this friday, thank
you very much.
>> okay. Thank you
for your comments. Any time you
mention beer, councilmember gallagher gets
excited. Do we have --yeah. I don't know. We need
--
maybe the city clerk or staff can
help coordinate I can't call on hands. If
we can
get cards passed out or if --how many want
to speak? Just two? Three. All
right. We will go in order that you
are in. From
me to back. Sir? You will be
next and I can't see because of the lights. Third in
the back.
>> if
you can just state your name for the
record.
>> my name is si ellis. I'm
the commander
of the american legion. We represent
all the military veterans in the city and
the reason that
I came up to speak is
that I want to
thank bryan and the orange county
rescue mission for what they
do for our veterans,
for the veteran's
out post that they support. You do
a great
job for our veterans. Thank you.
>> I
normally represent the history of
this town but I also
represent the people that died --
that left here. We have been trying
to
save something at the hanger for ten
years and we had an
event about ten years and I started
save
the hanger's.com. We tried to see
what was going on
and now I understand more all the things
you
are going through. I had no idea how
complex I knew nobody would
get together. I --we had a meeting a
couple of men on
the board here that basically met
with
the general over
in irvine that are
--40 to $60 million
museum. I hope that people don't just
go to the
flying leathernecks and then to hollywood
or
go to some other
area. That
stop here and go to a building that
I
would love to save that used to bring
in helicopters safely and also
the blimps. I want that building and
the towers saved someplace even if
it's next to
the hanger that maybe torn down at
least we can tell people your
son or grandfather didn't die in vain. We
have
the memory of him and also all the other people that
were there. The
people that fed them. The people
that had all the fun
and enjoy going to the church and
being married there which
was torn down. So what I'm saying a
lot
of memories. This is a military town. I
grew up as a military kid traving
every two years. Is there pollution
in
this area? Absolutely. I remember
being up in
marin count which where the planes
with coming in to land
and watching my dad and having sometimes
the
guys have to dump the fuel in
the bay. So, wherever there is military
you will
find this pollution and we were
informed by the gentleman that took over
in
san diego that was watching the clean up
from --we
are dealing the navy here. They said
to me actually --emailed to us
that they were going to condemn the
area
for a decade where the building is. They
said we
love your idea for a museum. We always
have but you can't keep it here. Have
you to move it and I gave that
information to the mayor and the mayor
said
I didn't
know that. We still have a lack of
communication
with the navy and this gentleman stood
up and talked about
it. I was in the military, yeah, I
know. It
takes a long time to get
an answer. Please think beyond all
the wonderful
things that you guys are doing and I
think it's
fabulous what you are doing. Please
save something for the memory of
the people that made it possible for
you to do what
ru doing today. Thank you.
>>
thank you.
>>
and now -- sir, go head. Go
head. Just let everybody know. It's 7:01 the
open house is open
I think. Once we are done we will
all move up
there.
>> hello. I'm just
a resident here. I really appreciated
one of the -- theme of this nights
which
was safety. For the schools
--especially with
the armstrong bridge because car death
deaths
one of the biggest dangers for children
and for
just us adults too. We deserve to
live too. I
really appreciate some of that safety
and I hope that you
keep in mind with these
development plans about how
to minimize traffic
violence, especially for a lot of
these facilities which
are public
goods and schools, so, finding ways
that we can get
people around in these new communities
safely. Thank you.
>>
all right. Thank you for your
comments. Do we have any other questions
to speak in
the room? Anyone online?
>>
no.
>> okay. See what
my
agenda says. All right. No
vote is required. Because
it's a receive and file item. So the recommendation
is
that the city council -- receive and
file the presentation and we
will. Mr. City manager do you have
a report?
>> no report
tonight.
>> mr. City attorney. >>
no further report.
>> thank
you. Bring it back to council and
I
will encourage us to be brief.
>> mr.
mayor. We have one request to speak
out in the atrium.
>>
okay. We will bring it back to the public comment.
>> if you are automatic in the atrium
and
you wanted to formerly address the
council
please come in this room.
>>
hello. I'm
a father, community member and just
wanted to speak on if
the level of remediation that is going on
with in
the area of the base
is that based on the uses
of the lra identities in the area
like --is the -- are they going to
go more extensively
on the --mitigation of any of the
pollution on the area based on
what the
lra chooses to implement in certain
areas of the base?
>> and I know
the
staff will be available to address your
question out there. We aren't supposed
to engage in dialogue. Ly use my public
comments in
a second to kind of generally answer
your question. Thank
you for your question.
>> thank you. >>
anyone else
want to address the council
or the lra? Council acting as the
lra. We will move back into the council
comments and reports.
>> thank you. Thank
you mayor. I appreciate that question. Now
I'm curious about it
too. I will hold the rest
for the
next meeting. For more join us at
the sunset market. Hope to see you
in two days.
>>
thank you.
>> the purposes of -- I
have no
comments, we will table them for the
next meeting.
>>
thank you. Councilmember gallagher.
>>
thank you.
>> we will
follow the
pattern.
>> thank you. I
know staff will get a more detailed
and technical answer. There
requirements to remediate. It's based
on
federal law and state law. There are
environmental hazards that
are identified by the state that go
onto register. We are kind