[0:55] >> it is 4:31 p.m. Madam city clerk, roll call, please. [0:57] >> let the record reflect that all members are in attendance. [1:01] >> thank you. Next we have public input. At this time any [1:02] member of the public may address the council on matters [1:04] which are on the closed session [1:06] agenda. If any members of the public wish to participate on [1:08] zoom and wish to address the council, please raise your [1:10] hand. If you are calling in, [1:12] please press star nine or raise your hand. Madam city clerk, [1:13] any requests to speak? [1:16] >> no, mr. Mayor. >> provide the closed session [1:18] update, mr. City attorney. [1:19] >> the council will be [1:20] convening in closed session to [1:21] discuss item 5 as it appears on the closed session agenda, [1:25] which includes conference with [1:27] the city's real property negotiators, aldo schindler, [1:31] nicole bernard, brian moncrief, [1:34] and ryan swiontek and â€" [1:35] >> thank you. We will recess to [1:37] closed session. [2:40] >>> the local use authority it [2:42] is 5:03 p.m. Meeting number 3083. Tonight's invocation is [2:45] by deacon john reza from st. Cecilia church. [3:01] >> heavenly father, we gather [3:03] here this day with hearts full of gratitude for the many [3:07] blessings you have bestowed upon us. As we begin this [3:10] meeting we seek your presence [3:12] among us asking for wisdom, understanding, and clarity in [3:16] all of our discussions and [3:18] decisions. Enlighten our minds and open our hearts to the [3:21] needs of our community guiding us to serve with integrity and [3:25] compassion. Grant us the discernment to seek the common [3:28] good above personal interests [3:31] and the courage to act justly and with humility. May our [3:34] efforts today contribute to the [3:37] flourishing of all of our residents reflecting the [3:40] dignity and respect each person [3:43] deserves. We ask your blessing [3:46] upon the city, its leaders, and its people that we may work [3:49] together in harmony to build a [3:52] community rooted in love and solidarity. Inspire us to [3:55] always strive for justice, [3:58] peace, and the well-being of all. We entrust this meeting to [4:01] your divine providence, confident in your ongoing [4:05] guidance and support, and we [4:06] ask this all through christ our lord, amen. [4:11] >> thank you, deacon. [4:12] the pledge of allegiance is by mayor pro tem nielsen. [4:20] >> [ inaudible ] [4:26] >> I pledge of allegiance to [4:29] the flag of the united states [4:30] of america, and to the republic which it stands, one nation, [4:32] under god, indivisible, with [4:35] liberty and justice for all. [4:44] >> thank you, mr. Mayor pro [4:46] tem. Before we move on to public input I would like to [4:48] announce this meeting will be live streamed through this [4:50] website and via zoom. [4:53] anyone who is unable to join us [4:55] in person tonight or needs to leave can watch it on the [4:58] website can participate through zoom. Next we have public [5:01] input. At this time any member of the public can address the [5:03] council on matters which are not on this evening's agenda [5:05] provided the matter is within [5:07] the subject matter jurisdiction of the city council. For those [5:10] of you here tonight and wish to address the council on the [5:12] development updates of the tustin legacy, we will be [5:14] taking open public input [5:17] following the presentations [5:19] from our partners. Right now it's for any other matters [5:22] within the city council jurisdiction. If any members of [5:26] the public are participating [5:27] through zoom wish to address the council, please raise your [5:29] hand and if you're calling in, please press star nine to raise [5:32] your hand. Madam city clerk, [5:35] any requests to speak? Anybody in person? Okay. We will move [5:37] on to closed session report. Mr. City attorney. [5:41] >> the city council took no [5:44] reportable action. [5:47] >> thank you, sir. We will next [5:48] move to regular business. We have one item tonight which is [5:52] the development updates from the former marine corps air [5:56] station in tustin property [5:57] recipients. All of the development partners out here [6:01] on the base that you drive by and see on a daily basis. This [6:05] is the third of these meetings [6:06] we've had in the last five years or so. We're trying to do [6:08] it on an annual basis, so [6:10] tonight you will hear some updates of where we've been in [6:13] last 12 months and what we have left to do. I will give it to [6:15] the city manager, aldo schindler. [6:20] >> thank you, mayor and [6:21] council. It's a pleasure to be here to provide further [6:23] background on the item and [6:25] introduce all of our partners this evening. We are excited to [6:28] host this meeting at flight. One of the success stories of [6:31] our aformer marine corps air station tustin redevelopment. [6:34] thank you to my city team and especially the city clerk's [6:37] office for coordinating logistics tonight. The local [6:40] reuse authority is one of the many hats the city wears. This [6:43] federal designation gives the city responsibility for leading [6:47] the reuse planning and implementation of the former [6:50] marine corps air station at tustin. From 2002 until [6:53] february 2021 the local reuse [6:56] authority did not hold any [6:58] formal meetings. That changed when the city council invited [7:01] all of its development partners to share updates on their [7:04] projects and progress. Following another local reuse [7:06] authority meeting in 2024 the city council directed staff to [7:11] hold annual local reuse [7:12] authority meetings to provide the community with updates from [7:15] the city and its partners on developing progress. These [7:21] annual meetings are just one part of the larger dialogue the [7:23] city and community have [7:25] embarked on together to shape the future of tustin legacy. [7:29] the ongoing conversations help ensure development reflects our [7:32] shared vision and priorities [7:34] for this important part of tustin's future. For anyone who [7:35] is interested in hearing more [7:38] about that process and upcoming [7:40] outreach events, our outreach team has a booth in the open [7:44] house after this meeting and [7:45] can answer any of your questions. For tonight's [7:47] meeting the city has invited [7:49] all the agencies that participate in the 2021 and [7:53] 2024 meetings to join us again. [7:55] after the presentation portion of the meeting, there will be [7:58] an open house where you can be the presenters and other [8:00] stakeholders, ask questions, and get more information. The [8:02] organizations you will hear [8:07] from tonight and meet later at the open house are the public [8:08] agencies or nonprofits that [8:11] oversee specific types of [8:12] development projects in line with the reuse plan and a [8:17] specific plan for tustin legacy. We also have a special [8:20] guest. George schlossberg, who [8:23] has been involved since 1991. [8:26] when the marine corps air station base closure [8:28] discussions first began. His presentation will look back at [8:29] how the city became a local [8:32] reuse authority and highlight [8:34] key milestones when the city strategically navigated [8:38] challenges to create the opportunities that we see today [8:41] at the tustin legacy. The city [8:44] and our partners will share [8:47] updates on current and planned development of the remaining [8:50] property at the tustin legacy. [8:52] following each presentation the council will have the [8:53] opportunity to ask questions or [8:56] seek clarification on any part [8:59] of that presentation. The public will have an opportunity [9:01] to comment once all the presentations have been made. [9:04] the order of the presentations tonight will be george [9:07] schlossberg, the city special counsel regarding land-use [9:11] reuse authority at â€" attorneys [9:13] at law, the orange county rescue mission, the south [9:16] orange county community college district, rancho santiago [9:19] community college district, tustin unified school district [9:20] and the last presentation by [9:23] the city of tustin. Once the [9:26] city presentation is concluded, I will then turn it back to the [9:29] mayor for general council [9:31] comments and public comments. With that, I would like to [9:32] invite george schlossberg to [9:33] come up and give his presentation. [9:38] >>while george is coming up, [9:39] just to reiterate what the city manager said. There will be a [9:43] lot of content thrown at you all and at the council for the [9:44] next hour and a half to two [9:46] hours and then you have an opportunity to address the [9:49] council formally at the microphone. If you don't want [9:52] to do that, there's an open house afterwards and you can [9:56] talk to us more informally. I know it can be nerve-racking, [9:57] especially with the spotlights. [10:00] george. [10:08] >> mayor, members of the council, and members of the [10:12] public, aldo, thank you for the [10:15] invitation. It has been a long [10:17] run for me and the city since the department of defense [10:21] decided to close marine corps [10:24] air station tustin. As aldo [10:26] indicated, I've been working with the city since the [10:30] original closure decision has [10:32] been made -- was made by the federal government in 1991. I [10:41] come sort of this by way of penance. In the sense that I [10:45] assisted the city and others. I [10:48] was the first base closure [10:51] counsel for the secretary's [10:54] office and at that time we assured communities throughout [10:57] the country that this base [11:00] closure process would be short, would be simple, and in three [11:03] years nobody would ever [11:06] remember that the process had been undertaken, and that is [11:14] where the word penance comes in, of course, because not one [11:15] of the things that we testified [11:18] to the congress about ever came [11:21] about, which is why all these [11:23] many years later we are back here. The base closure process [11:27] is complex. It involves â€" and I [11:29] will discuss this later â€" these are the largest [11:33] contiguous parcels of land in [11:36] the lower 48 that have been [11:39] available for redevelopment in [11:42] communities in the last [11:45] century. And the federal [11:48] government was not terribly [11:51] prepared or geared -- they were [11:52] prepared to close the base, relocate the military [11:56] activities, but actually dispose and redevelop the land, [12:00] that was something that was [12:03] beyond our ken at the time. [12:09] from a community viewpoint, [12:12] although these opportunities [12:15] for cities, states, counties, [12:18] the local land-use entities to [12:21] really reimagine the future of [12:24] their communities because the [12:27] marine corps air station tustin [12:30] was 1600 acres in the heart of [12:32] your city, portions of it in the city of irvine, and it [12:36] represented a vibrant part of [12:39] the community. It was an [12:41] economic engine for the community. Everyone here has no [12:48] doubt seen the giant hangars [12:51] that the navy built during [12:54] world war ii... The base housed [13:00] the sailors and marines that [13:03] marched off to world war ii, [13:06] vietnam, korea, and many other [13:09] conflicts. And so to actually [13:12] have the base close, the [13:18] communities relocated, is both [13:21] an opportunity and a jolt. But [13:24] the land itself located where [13:27] it is, is a tremendous [13:30] opportunity. It is a uniquely [13:33] valuable asset, particularly [13:36] here in tustin. Not all base closure property, some in the [13:39] desert, some in the mountains, [13:42] is equally valuable for [13:45] redevelopment. But this [13:48] property here, as you know, is [13:49] uniquely valuable. How did we get to this process? [13:56] for those of us who lived in the pentagon at that period of [14:00] time, the world changed in [14:03] 1990. We were gearing up to [14:09] fight the cold war, the wall came down, the cold war is [14:12] over, and the u.s. Government [14:15] looked at the expenditures, the forestructure and the base [14:18] structure and made a decision, [14:21] an all-of-government decision [14:24] to essentially change the way [14:27] that the defense department had [14:30] been structured. And there were [14:33] political debates, there were discussions, and the base [14:36] closure process, which was a [14:39] selection process, probably is not really relevant here now, [14:42] but it was a very public, open [14:45] process where bases were racked [14:48] and stacked against each other [14:51] and selected for closure. But [14:56] at the end of the day, when a base was closed, the federal [15:00] government was then left with [15:02] the decision what to do with the land because it was [15:06] federally owned land. Some of it was exclusive federal [15:09] jurisdiction, some of it was [15:12] within the cities and from land-use control was controlled [15:15] by the cities, but most, if not [15:18] all -- not all, but most of it [15:20] was utterly exclusive jurisdiction and could be done [15:24] with as the federal government decided. In 1991 when the base [15:30] closure commission first [15:33] decided to close marine corps [15:36] air station tustin, the city of [15:39] tustin did not support it, [15:42] didn't oppose it, was very [15:45] concerned and very active in [15:48] the role with the department of [15:51] the navy, the department of the marine corps, the base closure [15:54] commission, the defense [15:56] department, your congressional delegations, as to what to do [16:00] with it. But ultimately the [16:03] commission adopted the recommendations of the [16:06] department and said close the [16:08] base. There have been five rounds of base closures. 1988, [16:12] 1991, 1993, 1995, 2005. After 1991 it was a foregone [16:15] conclusion that as a matter of [16:18] law marine corps air station [16:22] must close. However, in 1993, [16:25] the navy did something [16:27] unprecedented in the base closure world. They went back [16:31] to the 1993 commission and [16:34] said, do not close marine corps [16:37] air station tustin. We made a [16:39] mistake, the structure for a variety of reasons we need the [16:45] runways at marine corps air station tustin. At that point [16:49] the city of tustin was well [16:52] into the planning process [16:55] deciding what could be done, [16:57] what could be benefited here in the city. What are the uses [17:01] that the land could be put to. [17:04] and the city -- just like the [17:06] navy made an unprecedented decision â€" the city made an [17:10] unprecedented decision in that [17:13] the city appeared -- we all [17:15] appeared before the base closure commission and said [17:19] stay the course. We were not [17:22] happy when you made the first decision, but we have decided [17:24] to live with it. Close the base. And over the objections [17:28] of the defense department and the navy the base closure [17:31] commission kept the base [17:34] closed, so that book was closed [17:37] in 1993, and as a matter of law [17:40] the closure was mandated. That [17:49] gets to the question of what happens. It was a drawn out [17:52] process of actually closing the [17:55] base, draw down the [17:57] forestructure, relocating the military assets, and the land [18:04] was, you know, was vacant. At [18:07] that time for the first three [18:09] rounds of base closures, '88, '91, and '93, the federal [18:13] government had no comprehensive [18:16] disposal process for these large parcels of land. The [18:19] federal disposal process, you [18:22] know, borne out of the surplus equipment of world war ii was [18:25] used selling jeeps and surplus [18:28] military vehicles and didn't [18:31] have the â€" really the ability [18:34] or the planning capability to plan for the economic [18:40] revitalization. And the congress insisted that the [18:45] reuse of the land be used to replace lost jobs. The statute [18:51] mandated job generation to replace the jobs that the [18:55] community lost. I mean, many [18:58] communities, they were economic [19:01] engine was ripped out and it [19:04] was very difficult to recover. [19:07] in 1993 the city of tustin, [19:10] together with several other [19:13] cities, we banded together with the association of defense [19:16] communities and proposed [19:19] legislation to the congress to establish a comprehensive base [19:25] closure disposal process that would put the communities in [19:28] charge. Whoever was the [19:31] land-use jurisdiction that [19:32] would inherit the land when the military was gone, would guide [19:37] and govern how the disposal process would take place. And [19:43] there were two seminal parts of [19:46] that. One is, we created a [19:49] federal entity called a local [19:52] redevelopment authority, that [19:55] the local city or county or [19:58] state, could petition to [20:01] become. The city of tustin was [20:04] the first lra to step forward [20:07] volunteered to become an lra and they were recognized by the [20:10] secretary of defense as a local [20:13] redevelopment authority for [20:16] marine corps air station tustin. There are [20:19] responsibilities that come with [20:22] an lra. The lra is obligated to put together a comprehensive [20:25] plan for the entirety of the [20:28] base that balances the needs of [20:31] the community, economic [20:34] development, homeless needs, [20:40] schools, parks, recreation, and all of community must be there [20:46] and it is a balancing activity that was reviewed by agencies [20:52] of the federal government, the department of health and human [20:55] services had to review the plan [20:58] and approve it. The department of housing and urban [21:01] development, hud, had to review and approve the plan. On the [21:04] screen is the initial plan [21:10] designed by the city of tustin [21:13] for the reuse balancing and [21:16] during that balancing process the city entertained [21:19] applications from entities, [21:24] public entities, local school districts. We would like to put [21:28] an elementary school, high [21:31] school, middle school, park [21:34] recreation, the county applied [21:38] for property, it could not all be enough by public uses [21:40] because we had to provide a [21:43] sufficient number of jobs to [21:46] replace those that had been [21:56] lost. Ultimately, the city put [22:02] together a plan, but in order [22:05] to implement that plan, it has [22:08] to go through the nepa process [22:11] the ceqa process that you are [22:14] familiar with and the city [22:17] agreed to undertake both the [22:19] federal process, nepa, as opposed to having the federal [22:23] government do it and the [22:25] california process, ceqa, and it was a joint nepa/ceqa study [22:32] to do that. And it was a [22:35] one-of-a-kind, first of a kind, [22:37] funded by the department of defense through oea grants. [22:41] as I indicated, the new federal [22:47] disposal law not only created [22:50] local redevelopment authorities, it also gave the [22:53] communities an opportunity to [22:56] acquire the property and [23:02] implement that vision. Because once the plan is done, it is [23:05] still federal land. So all you [23:07] have is a land-use plan owned by the federal government. How [23:12] do you implement that? And, again, the federal government [23:16] was used to auctioning the property. So the initial vision [23:20] was you planned it, we now put it on the auction block -- 1100 [23:26] acres to the high bidder. And [23:31] that was not a very - a good way to make a plan as complex [23:37] as the tustin reuse plan into reality. So the second thing [23:38] that the community [23:41] redevelopment act that new [23:42] statute that we helped to author, the city helped the [23:47] author, allows for thing called [23:52] an economic development conveyance. That is the [23:53] government will convey the [23:56] property to the lra and only [23:59] the lra and on a sole-source [24:02] basis, and the lra is obligated [24:05] as a matter of law to implement its plan. You put together the [24:08] plan, we will give you the [24:11] opportunity to actually put [24:14] that plan into effect. Now, the [24:20] federal government is not in [24:23] the business of giving away valuable assets. I think people [24:29] here in this area are aware of [24:32] the value of land, and there [24:35] were very very long [24:38] negotiations between the city [24:41] and the navy and the department [24:47] of defense as to how to achieve the plan, fulfill the vision [24:50] that hud had approved, that hhs [24:53] had approved, dod had approved, that the city had proffered, [24:56] and still financed the [24:58] infrastructure and everything else necessary to make that [25:04] plan become a reality. And there are various different [25:08] mechanisms. The city chose [25:11] something that I think is [25:14] probably most beneficial. And [25:17] that is, the city essentially carved out a portion of the [25:20] base and let the federal [25:22] government with the city's plan zoning and entitlement sell [25:30] that and the city acquired the rest of the property at no cost [25:32] for development. Going to the [25:41] future there are opportunities [25:47] for a new planning as we [25:53] understand. Not all of the [25:55] property that is to come to the city by way of the economic [25:58] development conveyance agreement has, in fact, been -- [26:04] the federal government is obligated to remediate property [26:08] under various federal environment statutes before [26:11] they can sign a deed. So that [26:13] property, which was remediated, was conveyed to the city by [26:17] deed. That property which was [26:18] not then remediated and some of which is still not remediated, [26:23] was conveyed by a long-term lease. Some of the [26:26] property at the former base is [26:29] owned by the city, some of it [26:32] is leased to the city. Some of it, however, was not part of [26:38] the edc agreement. The south [26:41] hangar is â€" was part of the [26:44] original edc conveyance. It has [26:47] not been remediated. It has [26:50] been leased to the city. The [26:53] city has custody and control of [26:56] the property. The north hangar, [26:59] the one that burned down, was not part of the edc agreement. [27:02] the city never took control of [27:04] that property, never took custody of that property, had [27:08] no legal rights to the property. But under the reuse [27:11] plan that property was [27:14] originally slated to become a [27:17] county regional park. The county applied for the [27:20] property, they were going to establish a regional county [27:21] park, which the city approved [27:23] their application in the reuse [27:27] plan. But over the years the [27:29] county had changed its plan and they withdrew that application, [27:33] so that 87 acres where the [27:36] north hangar burned down is not [27:42] planned currently. Within the [27:44] federal process for the reuse plan. It is planned as a county [27:47] regional park but there is no one to implement that vision. [27:52] so one of the things that the city is now able to do is, as [27:57] the local redevelopment authority, is to recast the [28:03] vision for that 87-acre parcel [28:06] of property. The city still [28:08] retains its role as the lra that was granted to the city [28:12] over 20 years ago. You have the [28:15] ability to revisit the plan, [28:18] open the plan, and once that is [28:21] done, then the property will be [28:23] available for disposal by the navy because the reuse plan is [28:27] a necessary precondition under [28:36] the base closure act. I think [28:39] that is it. That is all. For [28:42] those that will be interested [28:45] in actually the process of [28:48] getting from there to here, I [28:55] guess I am at one of the booths out there for later questions. [28:57] where you have out there the actual contract between the [29:00] city and the federal [29:03] government, which is something [29:06] that we needed several people [29:09] to have clarity in. Thank you. [29:12] >> I did want to make an [29:13] observation. The way we've set up the room it seems that [29:15] george was presenting to you [29:18] but he was presenting to the [29:20] local reuse authority, which is the city council, so when he [29:24] says the nepa/ceqa process [29:25] which you are familiar with, he was talking to us and not you. [29:29] if you are not familiar with that, that's why it landed [29:33] differently and I wanted to [29:34] make a point that you at the end of your comments was [29:36] talking about the county [29:38] application for the regional park. To put a finer point, as [29:42] we started our deliberations [29:45] for the two lra meetings go [29:47] which was 2021, we engaged with the county and in the process [29:51] we revoked our approval of the [29:53] county park plan because we knew they didn't have any money [29:55] to build it. And they were not going to build it. So there is [29:59] not going to be currently a county park there. If the [30:00] county wants to come back and [30:02] engage the lra and say they want to build a regional park, [30:03] that's something we can talk [30:05] about and that's the process george was talking about that [30:08] we need a plan to the 85 acres around the north hangar. [30:11] there's a misnomer out there. I think a lot of people think the [30:12] county owns the land or the [30:14] county is going to build regional park. That is no [30:18] longer the plan approved by the lra. Do we have questions for [30:21] george or comments? [30:23] >> just a quick question. Does the association of the defense [30:27] community still exist? [30:29] >> yes, it does exist. I am the general counsel. [30:33] >> perfect. [30:42] >> you hinted at the beginning [30:45] with your penance and given the [30:48] answer from council member nelson I assume that everybody [30:51] who had base closure in the [30:54] 1980s â€" or the 1990s, I guess the 1980s and 1990s are most [30:57] localities still dealing with [31:03] it like we are? I don't think [31:04] that we are an outlier, if I'm understanding what you've [31:06] presented. [31:07] >> you're absolutely not an [31:12] outlier. There are still [31:15] communities today that have not [31:18] yet negotiated an edc agreement [31:21] that are still negotiating to get their purchase and sales [31:26] agreement, and with regard to the actual conveyance to [31:30] property, I mean, it's no [31:32] secret that former military installation property is [31:39] heavily contaminated. So -- not much -- many â€" a large [31:42] percentage of the land area has [31:45] not been conveyed even if there is a purchase deal. It is under [31:48] [ inaudible ] [31:51] >> something to follow up [31:54] related. There is a santa ana [31:57] air force base, which is now the orange county fairgrounds. [32:04] but they seem to have moved more quickly to take over that [32:09] space. I think that closed years ahead of time. Was it [32:12] just in a different day and age or different environmental [32:15] concerns and regulations. I [32:18] think probably a lot of postwar [32:20] facilities throughout the country had a similar process. [32:26] >> there is a lot of history, but the basic answer is that [32:36] the department of defense closed many bases after world [32:39] war ii. And congress stepped in [32:42] and passed a law precluding [32:45] closures unless they went to a [32:48] very detailed process. So those [32:51] that were slated for closure [32:54] before that process were [32:56] disposed of very quickly without community input unless [33:00] they requested it. Afterwards [33:03] there was a detailed plan and [33:06] there is currently a statute [33:09] that precludes any closures [33:12] absent an act of congress or [33:15] going through the process. There [33:17] were two presidential vetoes, I think, president carter [33:18] president ford vetoed the [33:21] budget at two separate times over that very issue of closing [33:24] bases. [33:26] >> additional comments and questions? [33:30] >> thank you very much for that walk down memory lane. I [33:33] appreciate it. Very complex a [33:35] lot of twists and turns. The south hangar I think all this [33:37] on the city council get a lot of questions from our [33:39] constituents about the south [33:42] hangar. There's an emotional connection, but can you talk a [33:45] little bit more about the [33:48] process of remediation and what [33:52] the process is around, is it [33:55] every 2 to 3 years, the navy will take a look and see where [33:57] we are with remediation and come back and say, yes, we can [34:01] finally convey that property to [34:02] the city to develop or you need to wait another 2 to 3 years. [34:04] can you just give a little more [34:07] background on that? [34:09] >> the federal government is obligated to remediate. [34:13] remediate is not necessarily [34:16] cleanup. They have to render it [34:18] safe for human health and the environment. And that could be [34:20] done with land-use restrictions, or, in fact, [34:25] physical work to render it â€" to [34:28] remove the contaminants and at [34:31] the time that they do the [34:34] conveyance, they do an [34:36] environmental analysis of the property and decide and [34:40] determine what is necessary to [34:43] clean it up -- to remediate it to the standards that you set [34:48] in your reuse plan. Then, it's a matter of implementing that. [34:52] sometimes if it's a groundwater [34:55] issue, it may take 20 years to pump and treat and you cannot [34:57] convey until the system is operating properly and [34:58] successfully. [35:04] it is a matter of money, as a [35:06] candid issue. Each year the defense department asks for a [35:10] certain amount of money for [35:13] environmental remediation on [35:23] bases it no longer operates. That is viewed by the [35:24] defense department as money out of their hide that does not buy [35:26] bullets and ships. It is not a very heavily-funded account. [35:31] and that money is spread across [35:34] all base closure properties and [35:37] across the country in all the [35:40] states in all the areas. It is [35:43] a matter of triage. And I know [35:46] in meetings with the navy and [35:48] others meeting with the navy and army and air force, you [35:52] know, you get a schedule that [35:55] says you are on the 2037 budget. [35:58] >> thank you. Additional [36:01] comments for george? [36:04] >> I know the city of tustin [36:05] will present at the end of the six partner presentations, and [36:07] I think a lot of our questions [36:10] will be around that property. Thank you for the overview. One [36:13] of my biggest takeaways is that [36:19] maybe further [ inaudible ] [36:20] there is a lot of property left to be developed, but it's very [36:22] complicated. The city doesn't [36:25] have a title of it yet. We are [36:27] waiting on, as the councilmember schnell was just [36:30] asking about, federal government remediation actions [36:33] to take place before they can hand over the property. And [36:37] then that which has already [36:39] passed in fee to the city that the city owns, the city is [36:42] taking action on and that's what we'll discuss later. In [36:46] addition to that there's [36:49] property that may be vacant and [36:50] folks think the city controls it but our partners actually [36:52] control it and that's what we're doing tonight is getting [36:54] updates from those agencies took property back in the [36:57] 1990s. Thank you, george. Its good to see you in person. [37:00] george is usually in d.c. And we look at him on the screen [37:03] like the wizard of oz and I appreciate you being here in [37:04] person. [37:07] next is the orange county [37:10] rescue mission. Mr. Brian crain. [37:25] >> all right. Thank you, mayor, [37:28] mayor pro tem, counsel, city [37:29] staff, residents. It's my honor and privilege to be here [37:33] tonight. I was asked -- my name is brian crain, I'm the [37:35] president of the orange county rescue mission and I was asked [37:37] to give an update on our [37:40] development and the work that [37:49] has been done on our property, and here's the update. It was [37:50] completed in 2008, and we have been operating for 17 years [37:52] now. That said, people often [37:55] ask me what actually happens [37:58] there? I'm going to attempt -- [38:01] there we go. I'm going to spend [38:03] -- I'm going to be brief. We are going to blaze through [38:07] this. So it's not 30 minutes for all six partners. People [38:10] drop off clothing donations at [38:13] the rescue mission and they say what actually happens there, [38:16] what goes on there? So it's my privilege to share in a few [38:19] minutes what happens at the village of hope. The village of [38:22] hope is a five-acre campus at [38:25] the corner of redhill and [38:28] valencia. We have the capacity for 387 beds and that is for [38:34] men, women, and children, who are coming out of a crisis [38:37] situation. That could be the [38:40] sudden loss of a job, it could be a drug or alcohol addiction, [38:43] it could be domestic violence [38:51] situation, even a human trafficking situation. We are [38:52] there to help people in these [38:54] situations. We are a christian ministry and it's our goal to [38:55] provide restoration, healing, [39:00] hope, to the people that we serve and to equip them with [39:03] the tools that they need to get back on their feet and to [39:07] become financially self-sufficient again. When [39:10] people come to the program they [39:12] are making a commitment this is not an emergency overnight [39:15] shelter. Generally people are with us for 18 to 24 months, [39:19] and during that time they want [39:21] access to counseling, sobriety coaching, vocational training, [39:25] education, all on the road to [39:31] financial self-sufficiency. We [39:33] are one of the only, if not the only, program of our kind in [39:37] orange county that a whole [39:40] family can do together, and we are the only program of our [39:43] kind, of our type of long [39:47] transitional program, that [39:48] allows for a single dad and his kids to go through the program. [39:51] in fact, right now we have four single dads and their kids [39:56] going through the program. So [39:58] when people come into the program, like I said, it's not [40:01] just food and clothing and shelter. We provide all kinds [40:04] of services. One of the wonderful things about being on [40:07] five acres is we have many services under one roof. People [40:13] have access to a medical clinic, they have access to counseling [40:16] every week with a licensed clinical social worker. We have [40:18] a partner with trinity law school that allows for [40:22] residents to have access to legal help. We have life skills [40:26] classes where people learn [40:29] about time management, resume [40:30] building, personal finance, personal budgeting. We do a lot [40:34] of vocational training, which I will talk about in the second [40:38] and education is a very [40:40] critical component. We offer every single adult that comes [40:42] through our program the opportunity to earn their high [40:45] school diploma, and that's through a long-standing [40:47] relationship with tustin [40:50] unified adult school, which has [40:52] been a tremendous partner and a blessing to probably hundreds [40:56] of our students at this point. [40:59] so a vocational training is a [41:01] key component. We want to launch people into careers; not [41:04] just jobs. Listed on the screen are some of the vocational [41:09] certificates people have pursued in the last few years or [41:11] industries they gone in to. We [41:13] also have great relationships with many employers in the city [41:17] of tustin. Patterson auto, [41:20] which owns tustin mazda and [41:23] hyundai employs six of our [41:29] graduates in sales. Auto tech, [41:30] administrative, and sales. And we are proud to be partnered [41:32] with employers in the city of [41:34] tustin. Volunteers. We cannot do this without volunteers, [41:37] which is why love standing in front of a group like this. If [41:41] you have a group, and I don't [41:44] care if it's your book group, [41:46] your family, your church, your school, your business, we want [41:50] to hear from you. We will be [41:53] out at a table at the end of [41:57] this and we want to talk to you. In [41:59] the last year we logged 17,000 [42:02] individual hours -- 18,000 [42:08] individual hours. 27,000 group [42:11] volunteer hours for a total of -- [42:20] 45,000 hours. We think that we provide a very [42:21] robust rewarding opportunity for your group and there are [42:22] countless organizations in the city of tustin who come and [42:23] participate, and we are glad to [42:24] have them, and we want to talk to you. The future of the [42:29] village of hope. We are fully developed but I get every [42:32] opportunity I can to say to the [42:34] council that we do see an opportunity for next step [42:38] housing for our program graduates. We will welcome the [42:41] opportunity to develop another [42:44] five acres on our dime to be [42:47] able to provide independent, safe, affordable housing to the [42:50] graduates of our program. And [42:52] we would operate the way we do at the village of hope, which [42:55] is 100% drug and alcohol free and we incorporate the elements [42:59] of community and accountability that has made that program so [43:02] successful. In closing, I want to thank the [43:05] city of tustin for being such [43:08] an amazing partner over many [43:11] many years. We estimate that [43:17] from 2008 when we opened until now [43:18] that 3200 men, women and [43:19] children have transitioned into stable housing by going through [43:22] the village of hope. The city of tustin has been a tremendous [43:25] partner both for the village of hope and the tustin veterans [43:29] outpost that has former military veterans and their [43:32] families. I would like to say that while we are the orange [43:35] county rescue mission and we [43:38] service people from all of the county, we are very proud to [43:41] live in tustin, to be [43:43] headquartered in tustin and to be partnered with a city that [43:47] truly cares for the people that [43:49] we serve. I could not be more proud. I myself am a resident [43:52] of tustin and I could not be more proud that our [43:56] organization is headquartered here in tustin. I believe that [43:59] my contact information -- there [44:02] we go. That is my contact [44:05] information and my phone [44:08] number, my email. If you are [44:11] interested in volunteering, we want to talk to you. If you [44:19] know someone -- link them to resources. If you are in a [44:23] position to donate five acres for nextstep housing, call me [44:26] immediately. I'm kidding. [44:31] grateful for the opportunity and I look forward to talking [44:32] to on the patio. Thank you. [44:35] >> thank you, brian. Do we have [44:41] any questions or comments? [44:50] >> I would like to make a quick comment. I don't know that you [44:56] mentioned it brian, but thank [44:57] you, because you guys actually operate a homeless shelter as [44:59] well, which is been a very successful program and sought [45:02] after by other cities. I want [45:05] to encourage anyone. Orange [45:07] county rescue mission is extremely special and I know it [45:11] is used as a model for other organizations. And a leader in [45:14] what you do and looking at the [45:16] success rate you're actually solving the problem. You're [45:20] making a difference. If anyone has the opportunity to go [45:22] volunteer, I know brian mentioned it five times and I [45:23] will mention it once more. It [45:27] is just as much for the kids [45:29] and families there as it is for yourself. To see what they're [45:31] going through to see the transformation is very [45:35] eye-opening and it is special what you are doing. If you [45:38] cannot make it -- it's a short engagement. You can go for a [45:42] half hour. There are a lot of [45:45] different ways to help out and [45:46] you can donate as well. It's a great program and thank you for [45:48] being in our community and [45:54] helping. [45:56] >> obviously, you're talking about five acres. What would [46:03] that look like and how many [46:04] homes would be there and how many families would be housed [46:06] and are they permanent homes for those families or is it [46:09] transitional? [46:10] >> [ inaudible ] [46:39] >> a lot of times graduates come out of the program and go [46:42] into a new career and they need [46:45] a couple of years to develop [46:46] their earning potential and to rise up to the point where [46:49] they're able to support their family with market rate [46:51] housing. There is a gap there [46:53] between starting a new career and being able to support your [46:57] family. So we would see it as [46:59] not in perpetuity. A definite nextstep and we operate similar [47:03] properties in the city of [47:06] orange and so but why tustin? [47:14] because our flagship campus is right there and we regularly -- [47:15] we have 240 people in the [47:16] program and it would be -- a lot of times when people [47:18] graduate they have their kids [47:21] in tustin unified and they [47:27] start looking outwards to where else they might move, and then [47:28] they have to make a decision am I going to commute every day [47:29] back to the school that my kids are in. So that is why adjacent [47:30] to the village of hope would be [47:33] a blessing. [47:41] >> just to echo what councilmember gallagher said, [47:45] I've had the honor to support [47:48] the rescue mission and I've had [47:51] the honor to do it with my [47:53] daughters and my family. My oldest has graduated and is off [47:58] to college, but my youngest is a sophomore through national [48:00] charity league they do [48:03] volunteer hours. I've had the [48:05] pleasure of also attending one of the graduation ceremonies. [48:08] absolutely very impactful and very powerful and it pulls on [48:12] your heartstrings to see the [48:14] journey and the life journey that these people make over 18 [48:18] months and the work that you do [48:21] is tremendous. Excuse me. I [48:24] would say, that came out of nowhere. As far as volunteering [48:28] we have also volunteered during thanksgiving to serve meals, [48:33] and I cannot say that there is a better way to appreciate the [48:36] blessings that you have is to [48:38] go there and actually serve meals to the residents, talk to [48:41] them, get to know them. And to amplify what you said, if you [48:43] have a chance to volunteer, especially on thanksgiving, [48:45] it's a wonderful experience. [48:48] thank you for what you do. [48:51] >> we have a 5k turkey trot on [48:55] thanksgiving and we have --last year we had over 1000 [48:56] people run is a great opportunity to bring your [48:57] family. [49:06] >> I just want to say [49:09] congratulations on the success. [49:12] I thought george has a longer track record than I do in the [49:15] city with the base. I started [49:18] in 2002, and I remember [49:21] converting those marine barracks into the original [49:24] campus in the plans for that [49:26] and going through it and creating just an incredible [49:30] campus. If you have not been there, you need to check it [49:33] out. Once you check it out, you [49:35] will want to volunteer. Make sure you keep his number and [49:36] contact information. [49:51] >> next on our list is the south [49:56] orange county community college district. [49:57] >> good afternoon, or [50:06] evening, I guess. Thank you mayor lombard and city council [50:09] members for allowing us to [50:12] present you tonight. I am the [50:15] vice chancellor business [50:17] services with the south orange county community college [50:18] district and I have my [50:21] colleague here. He is our [50:24] executive director of facilities planning, and in the [50:26] audience we have one of our board members who actually [50:33] serves the city [50:35] of tustin... I'm sure you are familiar with him. We are very [50:39] lucky to have him. We have a [50:46] short presentation for you tonight. [50:51] the south orange county community college district we [50:54] have three campuses. The newest [51:00] one is here at atep and some of [51:06] the land from the reuse act. We [51:09] have about 61 acres that we are trying to develop and our main [51:12] campus is at saddleback college in mission viejo and we have [51:15] irvine valley college in [51:18] irvine, the district itself is [51:21] the largest in area of the four [51:23] community college districts within orange county. Covering [51:27] about 382 square miles. We [51:30] serve 15 different cities, [51:33] which includes tustin as well as north tustin and about seven [51:36] unincorporated areas. Annually [51:39] we serve about 54,000 students. [51:46] there we go. And we just opened [51:52] two new buildings over at atep [51:55] this week, yesterday actually. [51:58] culinary arts facility as well [51:59] as our automobile advanced technology building has been [52:03] opened and we are happy to say we have about 200 students [52:06] there. Brand-new students to the area and we hope that will [52:10] help. I will let mr. Efraim go [52:13] over everything that we do at [52:23] the atep site. [52:24] >> good evening, everyone. This is, I believe, [52:25] our third presentation to the lra and it's fun to see the [52:26] community and present to the community on the work that we [52:30] have done. Previous slides we've had just to share with [52:35] the community in our 61.4 acres that we have there were about [52:39] 41 former navy buildings that we've demolished over the [52:43] years. In 2015 about 36 and in [52:47] 2023 the rest about six of them. All of the navy buildings [52:51] have been demolished on our site. Work that we've done on [52:55] site, infrastructure work is [52:58] mostly on the fee land but some [53:01] that we've built roads, [53:02] roundabouts, electrical we worked with edison to have that [53:07] set up. Storm, sewer, [53:10] drainpipes. We did a lot of [53:16] that work prior to our buildings coming online. Most [53:17] of that work was in 2018. In 2020 as some of you may have [53:19] seen it, we installed some of [53:22] the wayfinding monument signage as well. That got installed as [53:34] well. One of our new [53:38] buildings known as the idea building was completed in [53:39] 2018 and they've been having classes since then. [53:41] approximately 1200 students this fall right now. That is [53:43] good. Prior to that we did have [53:46] classes across the street where [53:51] we did used to teach classes there. But now we moved here [53:55] and have been teaching here [53:58] since then. The goddard school, [53:59] last year at this time they had just barely opened. They are [54:03] here at the booth with us as well. That is an exciting [54:07] program that they've started. They've been here a year now. [54:10] they have about 100 students, [54:15] which is exciting and they are growing. It is a great asset [54:18] and program for the community ongoing basis. Next are at this [54:19] time hopefully that will be [54:25] about 300. Saddleback is an [54:28] absolutely exciting program. [54:31] this is saddleback college [54:33] building the new culinary and automobile program. We are [54:35] excited about that. We just had the event opening and [54:39] ribbon-cutting last monday and classes just started yesterday. [54:45] and casey is here if anybody wants to talk to her about our [54:49] program and what we have going [54:51] there. Classes were in full session yesterday morning at [54:55] 7:30 a.m. This program will I'm [54:58] sure quadruple in size in the [55:00] years to come so we are very excited about it. We did [55:02] prepare a quick slideshow. So if you don't mind we can show [55:04] you. [56:31] >>> I think just to add to that the [56:34] college is starting to [56:37] work with the community in local dealerships [56:38] and [56:40] restaurants to partner with everybody [56:41] to engage them [56:43] so this will be an exciting program. The [56:47] next slide that we have [56:50] here is advantech. They an [56:51] information technology company. This [56:53] will be their north [56:54] american office they are building [56:56] right south of [56:58] victory. A ten acre parcel so we are very [56:59] excited [57:02] about that. They are full on in [57:04] construction mode. The left side picture that [57:05] you see would be [57:06] the head quarter building and then [57:08] next to it would be [57:10] a warehouse building. We are excited [57:11] about [57:12] that. We are going to partner with them [57:14] as soon as [57:17] they open soon. So exciting [57:18] to hear. Future developments. We are [57:20] working with two [57:23] groups now. I would say [57:26] at its infancy. The [57:28] two that we --one of them victory [57:32] ai academy. It's a milledl [57:35] aged students school. They [57:37] are sandwhiched between red hill and [57:38] armstrong right [57:41] north of victory. Pretty large [57:44] site that will have [57:45] academic buildings and athletic fields so [57:47] we are excited to [57:48] partner with them. They are going [57:50] to be [57:52] a lot of domestic and international [57:53] students [57:55] they will go after but domestic, country [57:57] wide. We are excited to work with [57:59] them as well. More to come [58:02] on that. This is at --I would [58:04] say it's infancy. The next group we are [58:07] working with is top tennis management. This [58:08] is [58:11] a tennis academy. We are [58:14] excited working with they are right [58:18] south of valencia. We are excited [58:20] to work with them. There will [58:22] be academic buildings. I failed to [58:23] mention the [58:26] prior group will have dorms for [58:27] the students that will stay on site [58:29] this group is also looking [58:32] at having dorms [58:34] on site. Again early stages of discussions [58:35] with them [58:38] but we are hoping to complete [58:41] and negotiate that through. This slide [58:43] we kind of wanted to kind of give [58:45] you a picture of what the atep site [58:47] looks like. It looks [58:50] like if [58:52] you will. If our last two slides we talked [58:53] about [58:55] were victory ai and top tennis. We will [58:59] have built out all of the atep which [59:01] is a huge milestone wore the district [59:04] and our students, the community and [59:05] for them to be able to [59:07] use it. This is currently what it [59:11] looks like. The advantech south of victory [59:13] is under construction. The victory [59:14] and negotiations is under [59:15] negotiations and then the buildings [59:17] in the middle [59:19] are completed. You can start --that's [59:20] currently what [59:23] the [59:25] site looks like. Questions? [59:26] >> I appreciate [59:27] the presentation. I don't [59:29] have a question. I have [59:31] an observation. Back in 2021 the council [59:32] put you [59:34] under the gun. What is going on? Why [59:35] don't we have [59:37] any development happening out there [59:38] in the last four years we [59:41] have seen both the car [59:44] and culinary arts be planned and constructed [59:45] and open [59:47] which is [59:48] fantastic. I appreciate the leaning [59:50] forward into [59:53] other potential uses [59:56] and [59:59] education uses. Thank [1:00:03] you. Additional comments, questions? [1:00:04] >> [1:00:05] yeah. Congratulations [1:00:08] on the success since [1:00:09] 2021. It's amazing to see how far [1:00:11] you have come. Just [1:00:12] a couple of items I want to highlight [1:00:14] since we have a lot of [1:00:16] the public here. The work you are [1:00:17] doing. The development and the [1:00:19] access. There's a limitation. It has to [1:00:20] be --there's a part [1:00:22] that can be noneducation, a part that [1:00:23] must [1:00:26] be education focused which is what [1:00:27] paints [1:00:28] what the options they have there and [1:00:29] you did a [1:00:30] great job in identifying use that [1:00:32] meet those. I wanted to [1:00:35] point out advantech is a big win [1:00:37] for the tustin community. I remember [1:00:38] at the time [1:00:41] the ground breaking the [1:00:42] jeb manager for north america, not [1:00:44] sure the title but 400 [1:00:46] high paying jobs will becoming to [1:00:50] the city through this. [1:01:02] >> [1:01:05] let's take a couple minute recess real quick until [1:01:07] we can handle this situation right there. [1:01:08] >>> 400 high paying jobs. I think [1:01:13] that's where [1:01:14] we left. 400. Very exciting. I want [1:01:16] to say congratulations [1:01:18] to you on all the work you are doing. It's [1:01:19] a [1:01:22] private academy and victory [1:01:24] ai. I know those are private uses. If [1:01:25] at all possible [1:01:27] there's ways to partner with, you know we [1:01:28] have [1:01:31] schools nearby that have no --we [1:01:33] have the legacy magnet academy that [1:01:34] has no [1:01:36] fields, right or limited fields. No [1:01:37] sports. If there is [1:01:39] any way to partner with the other [1:01:40] stake holders we have [1:01:42] at the base I'm sure you will be thinking [1:01:43] about [1:01:44] that. Be great to find those early [1:01:46] as [1:01:49] you [1:01:52] guys mentioned. Thank you. [1:01:55] >> thank you. Thank [1:01:58] you. My question. We were both [1:02:01] agent [1:02:02] the academies. So, sort of about both [1:02:04] of [1:02:07] them. Are those sort of --who do [1:02:08] those serve? Are they like boarding [1:02:10] schools if you will for [1:02:12] -- for students and are they regular [1:02:13] schools like school [1:02:16] year schools or specifically [1:02:19] focused and then, secondly, are [1:02:20] those long term --round lease was [1:02:22] the district? Is [1:02:24] that how the transaction will --is [1:02:25] seen [1:02:28] at this point? [1:02:29] >> [1:02:30] those would belong term ground leases [1:02:32] with recurrently in negotiations with [1:02:34] them on. As far as [1:02:37] the students they would [1:02:40] serve they [1:02:41] are private institutions. There is [1:02:42] an aspect of it that would be boarding schools [1:02:46] and so you would have international [1:02:49] and domestic students. I think it [1:02:52] would serve family was in tustin [1:02:55] as well. I will say that [1:02:58] as a private institution [1:03:01] they will be pricey if I [1:03:04] can say that. So I [1:03:07] think that it'll serve potentially [1:03:10] a niche population of who they will [1:03:13] be bringing forward but it is [1:03:16] part [1:03:18] of an international programming that [1:03:19] they have [1:03:22] where they do have schools [1:03:23] throughout the pacific rim and they [1:03:25] are trying to bring --this will [1:03:28] be their first school with in [1:03:29] california that they want to close the [1:03:31] loop on the pacific [1:03:34] rim classes that they do have. That's [1:03:37] for victory [1:03:39] ai, yes. As far as the tennis academy again [1:03:40] that [1:03:43] is [1:03:44] a private institution. They are more [1:03:46] -- I [1:03:49] would say liken [1:03:52] to training athletes to excel in [1:03:55] tennis and to [1:03:57] compete internationally as well as [1:03:58] professional. So, you know [1:04:00] kind of when I talk to them what comes in [1:04:04] to mind is [1:04:07] --they go to houston to train for the [1:04:08] olympics. That's how I see and wrap [1:04:10] my head around [1:04:12] what the tennis academy is going to [1:04:13] be. [1:04:14] >> [1:04:16] the scope of that campus or facility. Looks [1:04:19] like it would be a place for [1:04:22] the t [1:04:25] ustin open in the [1:04:28] future. [1:04:29] >> [1:04:31] potentially. [1:04:32] >> I have seen [1:04:34] the proposals [1:04:37] for victory ai. There's also [1:04:40] a focus on trades when you take [1:04:43] a look at the technical aspects. Vehicles [1:04:46] today are computers. They are [1:04:49] high tech. Again, very happy to see [1:04:50] the [1:04:51] culinary, tech patrols focusing on [1:04:52] some of [1:04:55] the 21st [1:04:58] applications [1:05:01] with ai. This next generation of learning [1:05:02] and [1:05:04] --business so thank you [1:05:07] very much. [1:05:10] >> I'm impressed [1:05:12] with the speed subpoena development of the [1:05:13] past couple [1:05:19] of years. Between [1:05:21] your board and -- you know the speed [1:05:22] and development. I'm sure the [1:05:25] board was pushing on that. You have [1:05:27] good leadership that's going forward [1:05:28] and [1:05:30] I think just all excellent choices [1:05:31] to [1:05:34] be there and they -- they [1:05:37] really --effect other thing that [1:05:40] are going on [1:05:43] in the old base. Whatever else is [1:05:44] going on. It's a [1:05:46] nice kind of play with the other [1:05:48] uses that are happening. It's nice. [1:05:49] >> [1:05:50] yeah. I [1:05:52] will say that I started with [1:05:54] the district in 2017 and one of the [1:05:55] first things that the [1:05:57] chancellor at the time said was a [1:06:01] temperature baby and you are responsible for [1:06:02] developing [1:06:03] it. I have been working hard to try [1:06:04] to develop [1:06:07] it and I'm super [1:06:10] excited with the --what [1:06:13] we see. If we can bring the last two [1:06:14] ground [1:06:15] leases to pass then we will have completely [1:06:16] built out [1:06:19] the entire 61 acres which I will be [1:06:21] extremely proud of. [1:06:22] >> all right. Thank [1:06:23] you. We are looking forward to seeing [1:06:24] what comes next. Thank you very much [1:06:29] for your [1:06:32] presentation, sir. Next. [1:06:33] >> [1:06:35] next we [1:06:38] rancho [1:06:39] santiago community college district. [1:06:46] good evening, mayor. The city council [1:06:47] staff and [1:06:50] our community partners. My name [1:06:52] is ernie gomez. I'm the associate [1:06:53] dean [1:06:54] of the criminal justice department which [1:06:56] is part of the [1:06:57] community college district. What you have [1:06:59] on the slides is [1:07:01] the our location at armstrong avenue [1:07:02] and it's [1:07:05] known as the [1:07:07] orange county regional training academy we [1:07:08] have [1:07:11] had a longstanding partnership [1:07:14] with the orange county [1:07:15] department. With me is the director [1:07:17] of facilities [1:07:20] from [1:07:24] our college district. He will --discuss [1:07:26] further of the development of [1:07:29] the property. A little of [1:07:30] the background. The partnership is [1:07:32] over 50 plus years [1:07:34] and the training academy started in the [1:07:35] city of [1:07:36] orange which is a cross from the honda [1:07:38] center if you [1:07:43] can picture that. It became kind of [1:07:44] transient. They [1:07:47] are visiting different locations [1:07:49] throughout the county. We came -- [1:07:50] the land [1:07:53] here in tustin became [1:07:54] available to sleep and build our academy which [1:07:56] is part [1:07:59] of the college. Every recruit that comes [1:08:02] through [1:08:03] that academy is a student receiving [1:08:05] 29 credits for [1:08:08] that academy and a certificate [1:08:10] of the academy. The city police department [1:08:11] are part [1:08:12] of the community, matter of fact of [1:08:14] the three [1:08:17] academy classes on site currently there [1:08:18] are 135 recruits, two of them are [1:08:20] your city of [1:08:22] tustin police officer recruits. We [1:08:23] are [1:08:26] just been class 265. We are [1:08:29] middle of 266, 267, 268. We have [1:08:32] three academy classes on campus right [1:08:33] now. It [1:08:34] sevens throughout orange county and [1:08:35] portions [1:08:38] of la [1:08:41] county agencies. We [1:08:44] --the training is through [1:08:47] post which is a peace officer training which dictates [1:08:48] the training given to the recruits. We [1:08:50] mirror [1:08:52] that with the college. They receive [1:08:56] the college credit. Quickly the [1:08:59] construction started in to [1:09:02] 2005. It was dedicated september [1:09:04] 11th, as original training center. There's a [1:09:05] little bit of [1:09:07] background. I will turn it over to [1:09:08] tae and he will discuss [1:09:11] more of the [1:09:14] property. [1:09:15] >> [1:09:16] thank you. I'm director of facilities [1:09:17] and [1:09:20] planning [1:09:23] for the district. Very briefly [1:09:26] I will talk about the property itself. Wa [1:09:27] got [1:09:29] it back in [1:09:32] 2003. 15 acres of it and it was [1:09:35] permitted for [1:09:37] educational use and purposes. What [1:09:38] you see here on [1:09:40] the screen is the original concept [1:09:41] that was [1:09:44] developed back in 2003. You will see [1:09:47] that we developed a majority of [1:09:50] that site already. What's remaining [1:09:53] is about three acres of [1:09:56] undeveloped land that you see on the [1:09:59] northern portion of [1:10:02] the photograph there. And with all [1:10:05] the new challenges facing [1:10:06] law enforcement and first responders [1:10:08] we have been looking at what [1:10:11] type of facility should be placed on that [1:10:12] undeveloped [1:10:14] portion of the [1:10:17] site. We currently have approval to develop [1:10:20] a 20,000 square foot public safety [1:10:21] institute [1:10:23] at [1:10:26] that [1:10:29] location. And we just recently completed [1:10:30] a [1:10:31] feasibility study at what could go on [1:10:32] that side including [1:10:35] the public safety institute. We looked [1:10:36] at [1:10:38] adding and [1:10:41] incorporating a [1:10:43] physical agility test preparedness [1:10:44] structure along [1:10:47] with a running track, fitness and [1:10:50] skill as sessionsment area, wellness [1:10:51] facilities [1:10:53] and instructional classrooms and support [1:10:56] of [1:10:57] the academy. Cybersecurity training, [1:10:59] also [1:11:02] disaster, critical incident, preparedness [1:11:03] response [1:11:05] courses and facilities to support [1:11:06] that. The [1:11:08] good news recently is that the [1:11:11] state chancellor's office approved [1:11:12] the [1:11:15] location as a center which means [1:11:18] that it opens up funding [1:11:20] for the location on a yearly basis [1:11:21] and opens [1:11:24] up [1:11:25] the opportunity to apply for mass [1:11:30] funding [1:11:32] for development facilities. With that [1:11:33] we kept [1:11:35] it brief as much as possible and you [1:11:37] have any questions we will take that [1:11:39] now. [1:11:40] >> thank you [1:11:41] for the presentation. I was a graduate [1:11:45] of reserve class 22 romeo [1:11:48] there so aware [1:11:51] of the facility. [1:11:52] >> [1:11:54] just in your thinking [1:11:57] about the [1:11:59] new structure that's going open. Have [1:12:00] you [1:12:01] thought about possibly along with [1:12:03] the institute doing [1:12:06] like a first responder history [1:12:09] or resume portion [1:12:12] in that? [1:12:13] >> there is [1:12:15] a portion of the [1:12:17] --that has some item that are museum related at [1:12:18] the [1:12:21] front of the entrance way. The sheriff's [1:12:23] --opened the bell center on the other side, [1:12:24] the westside and [1:12:26] they are making that --so -- we will [1:12:27] have [1:12:29] some historical things there. Matter [1:12:33] of fact class one. Class one [1:12:35] from 1965 has their photographs on [1:12:36] the wall [1:12:37] in the academy halls which I would love [1:12:39] you to come look at. A lot of [1:12:42] these thing that are there that [1:12:45] will [1:12:48] remain there. [1:12:49] >> [1:12:50] yeah. Lot of things there. Yeah. [1:12:51] >> [1:12:52] you can give us [1:12:53] any concept of the timeline for that [1:12:54] development [1:12:56] for the remaining three acres? I know [1:12:58] you are looking for funding. Is is [1:13:00] there a target [1:13:02] date? [1:13:03] >> we are looking at a phased [1:13:04] approach [1:13:06] right now. That might be [1:13:08] --that might involve covering up the third [1:13:09] patch [1:13:12] that's existing currently and then slowly bringing [1:13:14] in some to the facilities in preparation [1:13:15] for [1:13:18] a permanent facility. Timeline wise [1:13:19] we [1:13:20] have nothing concrete right now. We [1:13:21] need [1:13:24] to explore the budget and [1:13:30] planning process itself. [1:13:31] questions? All right. Thank you very much [1:13:36] for your presentation. [1:13:42] all right. Next we [1:13:44] have tustin unified school district. [1:14:04] good afternoon and good evening. I'm the [1:14:06] chief financial officer [1:14:09] for the tustin school district. With [1:14:12] me I have our director of [1:14:13] facilities and planning. So we are grateful [1:14:14] for the opportunity to stand before [1:14:15] you today [1:14:17] to provide an undate from our district [1:14:18] on the [1:14:21] progress that we are making [1:14:24] and have made on the land that was [1:14:25] convoyed [1:14:27] during the unwinding of [1:14:29] the marine corp air station. So, today [1:14:30] we are going [1:14:33] to share momentum that [1:14:35] is building in tustin to meet the needs [1:14:36] of students and family [1:14:39] in the years ahead. We are also [1:14:42] going to review and detail some of [1:14:43] the work that [1:14:44] is already happened at the properties. [1:14:52] we are super excited because we had the opportunity [1:14:54] to welcome [1:14:56] our kids back for the 25-26 school [1:14:57] year and that's [1:15:00] always a great energy builder to [1:15:02] carry us through the heavy lifts that [1:15:03] we have throughout [1:15:05] the year. Seeing the smiling faces, [1:15:06] welcoming the [1:15:08] kids back. Heading into this year [1:15:09] we reflected on [1:15:10] the momentum that we built over the [1:15:12] last several years and [1:15:15] we carry that momentum in to [1:15:17] the new school year but also in to [1:15:18] the future. So [1:15:21] you can see our logo there shows the [1:15:24] momentum in terms of the energy, the [1:15:27] movement of a wave and reminding our [1:15:28] students [1:15:30] and staff and community [1:15:33] that in tustin we lead with [1:15:35] optimism and team work. So in the [1:15:39] next couple slides I will share a [1:15:40] few examples [1:15:42] of [1:15:44] momentum in tustin. Here over the [1:15:45] past [1:15:48] several years really our amazing students [1:15:49] have [1:15:51] continued to excel in [1:15:54] many areas. You can see on the slide [1:15:55] language [1:15:56] arts and math scores have gone up over [1:15:57] the past [1:15:59] three years. The number of english [1:16:00] learners who [1:16:02] reclassified from english learners [1:16:03] to [1:16:06] english proefficient have [1:16:07] gone up. The a through g completion [1:16:09] rate which [1:16:11] is the completion needed for eligibility to [1:16:12] enter [1:16:14] the uc or cal state system. Those [1:16:15] numbers have [1:16:17] gone up with our students as well as [1:16:18] the [1:16:20] number of advanced placement tests [1:16:21] that our students take [1:16:24] and those tests [1:16:27] provide college credits for students entering college [1:16:30] after high school. We [1:16:32] have an increasing number of senior [1:16:33] who [1:16:37] are graduating with their career [1:16:38] technical, education court. Not only [1:16:40] are they looking at [1:16:41] college but they are also looking [1:16:43] at the trades [1:16:44] and other opportunities. Some of our [1:16:46] partners have mentioned [1:16:48] this evening. Then also in partnership [1:16:49] with some [1:16:51] of the partners that presented earlier [1:16:52] this evening [1:16:54] the number of students taking college [1:16:56] level courses while they are attending [1:16:58] high school have gone [1:17:00] up as well. We are excited about that [1:17:01] momentum [1:17:04] and we are looking to [1:17:07] how it looks into the [1:17:08] future. Another piece is we are grateful [1:17:10] to [1:17:11] the community. Our community and their [1:17:13] support for measure j [1:17:15] which is a general obligation bond for [1:17:19] $261 million. That provides [1:17:21] investment to improve the school facilities. Measure [1:17:22] j [1:17:24] funds will slowly be used for the [1:17:27] schools letting us upgrade classrooms, [1:17:31] repair [1:17:33] and upgrade aging infrastructure and [1:17:35] provide safety and security at all [1:17:37] campuses. We are [1:17:39] excited that work is already started. [1:17:40] we are [1:17:43] in the planning phases for the first [1:17:46] phase of school. Under measure [1:17:48] j as well as we have started the installation [1:17:52] of many safety at our [1:17:55] school across tust. These resources [1:17:58] let us modernize [1:17:59] the facilities, expand our capacity [1:18:01] and deliver [1:18:04] on our commitment to create [1:18:06] great learning environments for all [1:18:07] students. With that I will let you [1:18:08] know [1:18:10] that a critical [1:18:12] part of our progress has started, [1:18:13] with the [1:18:14] development of some of the land at [1:18:16] the former marine [1:18:19] corp. Air station. [1:18:31] >>> thank you and going mayor, [1:18:32] members of the council and members of [1:18:34] the community. I'm the director of [1:18:37] facilities and planning for the district. A [1:18:40] lot of the momentum that [1:18:43] harold has shared about what we [1:18:46] are doing in tustin is [1:18:47] definitely reflected in what's going on [1:18:49] in the facilities. [1:18:58] I wanted to [1:19:00] share that. First of all we want -- [1:19:04] our story with [1:19:06] the legacy development starts with [1:19:07] our land [1:19:10] to us for [1:19:11] heritage elementary school. That land [1:19:13] was convoyed [1:19:16] to us in 2002 [1:19:18] after some planning, some false starts [1:19:19] and [1:19:22] a structure in 2011 which was [1:19:25] eventually opened as heritage elementary in [1:19:27] 2016. Just a little bit about some [1:19:28] of the good work that's going [1:19:31] on in [1:19:33] heritage elementary. It's a steam [1:19:34] magnet [1:19:35] school. It has about -- about two [1:19:37] thirds of the [1:19:39] enrollment now is residents of legacy [1:19:40] and also [1:19:42] is a very attractive destination for [1:19:43] students throughout [1:19:46] the district to come and participate [1:19:48] in their program such as progress based [1:19:49] learning [1:19:50] other things that are just exciting [1:19:52] thing that are going on [1:19:55] at that facility. Their [1:19:58] current enrollment is at 590 and [1:20:04] while the district continues to experience [1:20:05] declining enrollment [1:20:07] overall that school continues to have [1:20:08] a robust [1:20:10] enrollment that continues to [1:20:12] grow. I also did just want to mention [1:20:13] as [1:20:15] part of our 550 students to kind of [1:20:19] tie in with [1:20:22] the -- with the [1:20:25] -- partners that we do have --we [1:20:28] do service the --the [1:20:31] -- the orange --we service the -- [1:20:32] the [1:20:34] city of hope, excuse me. So, [1:20:37] that's kind of a high into what [1:20:40] we do. Moving onto legacy [1:20:42] magnet academy. We --that is also another [1:20:43] school that [1:20:45] continues to gain momentum as well [1:20:46] as [1:20:47] enrollment. It was completed for the [1:20:49] start of the [1:20:52] 2021 school year. It -- [1:20:55] of the students that [1:20:58] are 964 students we have there, [1:21:01] approximately [1:21:04] --sorry. 675 of them [1:21:19] the lma doesn't have any cif sports but [1:21:20] with [1:21:22] the completion of our gym [1:21:24] building in 2023, we are able to host [1:21:25] a lot [1:21:28] of events there. Probably one of [1:21:31] the biggest events we host [1:21:33] is robotics tournaments. It's a huge [1:21:34] part of tustin [1:21:37] and the [1:21:40] legacy magnet academy. We also on [1:21:43] the theme of partnership legacy has [1:21:46] a partnership [1:21:48] with irvine valley and about 850 students [1:21:49] at [1:21:52] legacy magnet academy from [1:21:54] grade 7 to 12 are taking college classes and [1:21:55] all [1:21:58] of our legacy students graduate with [1:21:59] a [1:22:01] dual aa and their high school [1:22:03] diploma. That's a great fireman we [1:22:04] continue [1:22:07] to participate with ib c on that is exciting [1:22:08] for [1:22:10] our students and community. Then [1:22:13] so looking at [1:22:16] the slide the --we show [1:22:19] our -- information about our current [1:22:20] district office. While [1:22:22] we were planning and building [1:22:24] our legacy facilities we were looking [1:22:25] at doing [1:22:27] some maintenance work, improving our district [1:22:28] office facility and as part [1:22:31] of the routina ceasement that we were [1:22:34] doing in preparation for work we discovered [1:22:37] some fairly serious issues as far [1:22:38] as [1:22:40] the structure of the building. As [1:22:41] a result [1:22:44] of that we have had --we spent [1:22:47] the last three years [1:22:48] talking very intimately as a district about [1:22:50] how we [1:22:53] want to dress that issue and [1:22:54] in case you are asking yourself why [1:22:56] that factors in to [1:22:58] the legacy --the tustin legacy presentation [1:22:59] I [1:23:02] will turn it back over to [1:23:05] explain how tustin legacy fits [1:23:08] into that assessment [1:23:11] we have been [1:23:14] doing. [1:23:15] >> okay. Thank you [1:23:16] tom. Just for the information tom [1:23:17] has -- [1:23:19] heritage and is at the lake so he [1:23:23] knows these programs [1:23:25] very well. With that we are looking at [1:23:28] the future. Now legacy magnet the [1:23:30] admin building space has been constructed. We [1:23:32] have added the [1:23:35] gym [1:23:38] and ct building. [1:23:47] so the [1:23:48] slide before you explains that we [1:23:50] are currently in the planning [1:23:53] efforts for a new district education [1:23:56] center that is going to [1:23:59] be [1:24:05] located at the seven [1:24:07] acre parcel. Our community we have [1:24:08] actively started [1:24:11] the [1:24:13] planning process for that property. So [1:24:14] with [1:24:17] that we have also --we [1:24:20] have been in contact -- been in contact with the [1:24:23] city in regards to their [1:24:26] plans for the legacy [1:24:28] --legacy area related to developments, [1:24:29] development [1:24:32] that would generate students [1:24:33] for our education alpha silts. We [1:24:35] are looking at [1:24:37] what those impacts and studying what [1:24:38] they -- to determine [1:24:41] what will be the program and facility [1:24:44] needs going forward. Lastly as [1:24:47] was referenced earlier there [1:24:50] is a small 1.1-acre property that [1:24:53] is part of the [1:24:56] plan for the district as all of [1:24:58] the partners are affected by this we [1:24:59] are waiting for [1:25:02] the disposition by the navy so [1:25:03] we can determine what --what the uses [1:25:05] will be [1:25:06] for that property. Unfortunately we [1:25:08] don't have a clear [1:25:11] timeline. It's the navy. God [1:25:13] bless them. We want to make sure that [1:25:14] we are [1:25:16] continuing to monitor that and identity [1:25:17] uses [1:25:20] for those properties into [1:25:23] the future. With that we -- [1:25:26] wanted to talk about [1:25:28] ongoing challenges related to the [1:25:29] developments that [1:25:32] were discussed. As tom shared the enrollment at both [1:25:35] schools is nearing [1:25:37] capacity. It's really limiting options [1:25:38] particularly as [1:25:40] we are thinking about new sleepment and [1:25:43] we are looking -- to determine what [1:25:44] are some of [1:25:47] the creative solutions to house [1:25:50] new students. We have increased demand [1:25:53] in education [1:25:55] for support spaces, after school programs [1:25:56] which all take [1:25:59] --have demands, place demands [1:26:01] on the facilities. Safe roots to schools. They [1:26:02] are always a [1:26:04] priority for our neighborhoods. Especially in [1:26:05] this [1:26:07] area. We are pleased to report that [1:26:08] --the city [1:26:11] has been a great [1:26:14] partner this opening the [1:26:19] admonition offet extension. Transgress [1:26:20] onto the legacy property. We [1:26:23] appreciate the partnership with the [1:26:24] city [1:26:25] and with that we thank you for your [1:26:26] time and I will [1:26:29] take any questions. [1:26:30] >> thank you. Thank you both [1:26:31] and [1:26:32] I appreciate you --that last slide [1:26:33] I think you addressed a lot of the [1:26:34] comments we made last year about capacity [1:26:35] and safe [1:26:37] routes to school. I can share with [1:26:38] you that the council [1:26:41] two weeks ago approved [1:26:44] authorizing staff to go out forbid [1:26:45] for [1:26:46] the armstrong bridge. We are moving [1:26:47] forward in the [1:26:49] armstrong bridge or -- the base bridge [1:26:50] program [1:26:53] and I know that bring will be a [1:26:56] big help for legacy. Understanding [1:26:59] the needs for the [1:27:01] administrative space because of the [1:27:02] aging and the root problems. I [1:27:05] think it would be a [1:27:07] shame to see that before may and the [1:27:08] community feels the [1:27:11] same way. We don't want to [1:27:13] see the rest built. Exploring and how [1:27:14] you [1:27:16] will house additional students. We [1:27:17] have a [1:27:20] ton of housing and I know you are [1:27:23] aware of that. They will need a [1:27:25] place to go. Certainly the second [1:27:26] half of [1:27:29] the students is --a real [1:27:32] near term. I just want [1:27:33] to recognize. Superintendent johnson [1:27:35] is somewhere. Weighstrying to [1:27:37] get in the wrong door. Is he in the back [1:27:38] over there [1:27:40] now. He is here and if northbound [1:27:41] wanted to pepper [1:27:43] him with questions during open house [1:27:44] I'm sure he [1:27:48] will stick around. Any more [1:27:51] comments or questions? > [1:27:54] >> I appreciate his [1:27:57] chants about [1:27:59] classroom space. I'm glad to hear [1:28:03] that. I was wondering [1:28:05] about that. Timing for you call it [1:28:06] is district [1:28:07] education. I guess that's the fancy [1:28:09] words for, [1:28:11] you know district headquarters. What [1:28:12] -- [1:28:15] do you have an idea on [1:28:17] the time frame and what --not quite [1:28:18] legacy but what would [1:28:21] happen to the [1:28:24] existing headquarters? [1:28:25] >> so great [1:28:26] questions. Both --the --we don't have [1:28:27] a timeline we are working [1:28:29] through the process with the governing [1:28:30] board and we [1:28:32] will be sharing updates with the community [1:28:33] in terms [1:28:36] of what timelines [1:28:38] would look like. As such because we [1:28:41] are still occupying the current district [1:28:42] office we [1:28:44] do not have any plans for disposition [1:28:45] at this [1:28:47] point. I think that once we are further [1:28:51] along [1:28:53] in the process on --where we will eventually [1:28:54] go [1:28:57] --we will start to [1:29:00] formulate any ideas about this existing space [1:29:02] and the other thing I would add to [1:29:03] the [1:29:05] mayor's comments is, you know, the [1:29:06] other [1:29:09] sort of peace --we are here for legacy [1:29:12] is that measure j. We have in addition [1:29:14] to what's happening at legacy. We [1:29:15] have [1:29:17] important work that's happening at school sites [1:29:18] as part [1:29:21] of the phase one to bring the older schools [1:29:23] up to a certain standard and in alignment with [1:29:24] some of [1:29:27] the newer schools and -- [1:29:30] so, ourschools are our priority and [1:29:33] recognize and appreciate that confidence. [1:29:34] >> [1:29:35] comments? [1:29:36] >> thank you for the presentation. I [1:29:37] am -- a [1:29:38] proud father of two daughters who [1:29:39] went [1:29:41] to pioneer and peter's canyon. Had [1:29:42] a [1:29:44] great academic experience. Thank you [1:29:45] very much. Mark johnson and [1:29:48] the rest of the teachers did a [1:29:50] good job educating my daughters. You [1:29:51] did mention [1:29:54] measure j. I'm glad to see that money [1:29:57] will be set aside [1:29:58] for schools to bring the schools up to speed [1:30:00] and code. I wanted to ask [1:30:02] about school safety since something that's been important to [1:30:03] me and I know that [1:30:06] part [1:30:08] of those measure j dollars are going [1:30:11] toward school safety enhancements. I [1:30:15] want to get a sense of how much will [1:30:16] be dedicated to schools and other [1:30:18] safety measures and are you able [1:30:21] to talk about and what of the enhancements might [1:30:24] be? [1:30:25] >> great question. While I [1:30:26] can't give you a specific dollar amount because [1:30:27] those things [1:30:29] sort of changing I can say that we [1:30:30] are already started to [1:30:32] make those investments in the school. We -- [1:30:36] as part of the --measure j we always want [1:30:37] to commit to our community that we [1:30:39] are going to put the dollars to work [1:30:42] as soon as we can and [1:30:43] we thought security enhancements was [1:30:45] the first place [1:30:48] to start. So, all [1:30:51] of our schools received [1:30:52] access controls, upgrades which essentially [1:30:54] for those that [1:30:56] have ring cameras at your homes it is [1:30:57] a -- [1:31:00] a camera based system where we can [1:31:03] see out and we [1:31:06] can buzz people, visitors into [1:31:07] it. No longer can anyone just walk [1:31:09] up to a door and sort of access [1:31:12] our facilities. They have to be [1:31:15] let in. So that's --that's one [1:31:18] phase. In addition when we think about [1:31:21] making hard [1:31:24] targets we are [1:31:27] expanding cameras. Not [1:31:30] all school sites have [1:31:32] camera systems. Over the next several [1:31:33] summers we will [1:31:36] continue to expand installations on existing [1:31:37] campuses [1:31:39] and then adding two campus that don't [1:31:40] currently [1:31:42] have the systems in place. There is [1:31:43] -- [1:31:45] there's a long process involved in identifying [1:31:48] the right system that will work for [1:31:49] what we [1:31:51] need to do and so I'm proud to [1:31:54] say that our work has started and [1:31:57] we have with these measure [1:32:03] j dollarsprioritized [1:32:06] safety. [1:32:07] >> as you go [1:32:09] through the evaluations are [1:32:12] you working with tustinpd as well? [1:32:13] >> [1:32:15] great. Thank you. [1:32:16] >> [1:32:18] yeah. Just to piggy back on [1:32:21] that the camera installations. A couple [1:32:22] of goss [1:32:24] a tour of the county location and they [1:32:27] have camera system that integrate [1:32:28] at [1:32:30] school low cases to they can get [1:32:33] access to a situation -- realtime [1:32:34] data [1:32:36] and I would hope that --in your camera [1:32:38] installation coordinating tustin that [1:32:39] we have that [1:32:42] integration. [1:32:43] >> camera systems in [1:32:45] this day and [1:32:48] age are high quality and allow for [1:32:49] a [1:32:51] lot of integration [1:32:55] and so absolutely our assistant [1:32:56] superintendent at admin services he [1:32:58] is leading [1:32:59] our safety improvements. Him and his [1:33:01] team have been doing a [1:33:04] great job ofvetting and actually [1:33:05] working with stake holders to mechanic [1:33:07] sure we put the right [1:33:09] systems in place to secure campuses. [1:33:10] >> [1:33:12] additional comments, questions? All [1:33:13] right. Thank you. [1:33:14] >> [1:33:19] appreciate it. [1:33:21] >> all right I understand because [1:33:22] the councilmembers [1:33:24] are talking to much we are a little [1:33:25] behind time I would like to [1:33:28] invite the city of t ustin [1:33:31] to [1:33:33] come up and present. [1:33:34] >> good evening [1:33:35] mayor, council, [1:33:36] members of the community. I will try [1:33:39] to be quick I --I get the pleasure of [1:33:40] talking [1:33:43] about [1:33:45] the city's economic conveyance property. I [1:33:46] will [1:33:48] touch on a few topics briefly on what's [1:33:49] been developed [1:33:50] what's remaining. Talk about some [1:33:52] of our recently [1:33:53] completed projects with reexcited [1:33:58] to share. Active [1:34:01] projects we [1:34:03] are excited to share. So just quickly you [1:34:04] have [1:34:06] heard from a lot of our partners. This [1:34:07] is a [1:34:09] map of tustin legacy. This is on the [1:34:10] website as well [1:34:13] showing everything that's been [1:34:15] built to date. Jorge went through [1:34:16] the background. You can see a [1:34:19] lot of the red property. They [1:34:21] have been discussed. What does the city [1:34:22] have [1:34:23] left? Everything you see in purple here [1:34:25] is part [1:34:26] of the city's economic development [1:34:27] property and I will touch on a lot [1:34:28] of projects with [1:34:29] in these purple areas this are about [1:34:31] to be completed or [1:34:34] are coming up [1:34:37] online here [1:34:38] shortly. Recently completed projects. Just [1:34:40] you can [1:34:41] throw a rock hit it. We have the dog [1:34:43] park that just opened [1:34:45] up earlier this year. First dog park in [1:34:46] the [1:34:49] city. It's frequented by a lot [1:34:52] of tustin residents. About a -- [1:34:54] just under a two million dollars project. Look [1:34:55] forward [1:34:58] to seeing more people out there [1:35:00] in the future. One thing that george [1:35:03] touched on and also our fines is the [1:35:04] city council [1:35:06] just recently approved a specific plan [1:35:07] amendment [1:35:09] in tustin legacy. Part of the broader [1:35:10] city wide [1:35:12] housing rezone. You hear on the news a [1:35:13] lot of cities [1:35:15] are having to deal with adding new [1:35:16] residential [1:35:19] units to accommodate all of [1:35:21] the new requirements for the state. You [1:35:22] can see in [1:35:25] the various neighborhoods, 200 units were [1:35:28] added to neighborhood [1:35:31] g, 1900 [1:35:32] to neighborhood e. There's the it [1:35:37] is total [1:35:39] numbers. Active projects. One project [1:35:40] you probably drove by on [1:35:43] your way here. A lot of craters and dirt [1:35:46] being moved around. The neighborhood [1:35:49] infrastructure project. A big [1:35:51] creating operation putting in new [1:35:52] utilities. Cutting new street that [1:35:54] will be setting up a number of projects. We [1:35:55] will [1:35:58] talk about a senior product [1:36:01] and setting up that project. The next [1:36:04] phase of [1:36:05] tustin legacy park. Some power for [1:36:07] the south [1:36:09] hanger. This is estimated to we complete by [1:36:10] the end [1:36:13] of the current [1:36:14] calendar year. I mentioned a senior [1:36:16] project. We [1:36:18] are working with a senior developer. This is [1:36:19] a kind of two [1:36:22] part project one is an active adult [1:36:25] which is independent [1:36:29] living for seniors. About 170. The [1:36:31] other half of the project is [1:36:34] for assisted living and memory [1:36:36] care. More of commercial type use. They [1:36:37] will be operated [1:36:39] by clearwater with a couple of communities [1:36:40] here. One in [1:36:42] north tustin and one in newport beach. It's [1:36:43] about a six [1:36:46] acre site. We [1:36:49] are working through the [1:36:52] business deals for [1:36:54] that. Mention the armstrong avenue [1:36:55] pedestrian bring. Something [1:36:58] you drove by was two big mounds [1:37:00] over armstrong. That will be for a [1:37:01] future pedestrian bridge that will [1:37:03] connect the first part of the park [1:37:04] in to the second [1:37:07] part of the park which I touched on [1:37:08] earlier. Mounds [1:37:09] out there to settle for a little bit [1:37:10] and then they will [1:37:12] be cut back and the project is out [1:37:13] to [1:37:16] bid looking to [1:37:18] have construction going by 2026. The [1:37:19] next part [1:37:21] will be coinciding with that bridge and [1:37:22] other improvements. It's [1:37:24] a five acre park site. It'll have [1:37:25] a [1:37:27] few different zones. Right now we are [1:37:28] working through the [1:37:29] final design drawings, looking to have [1:37:31] it out to bid [1:37:34] in early 2026 and construction [1:37:36] following shortly after that. Really [1:37:37] exciting project that [1:37:39] the council approved early their year [1:37:40] is going to be [1:37:43] a project [1:37:46] with the irvine company. 25% of those [1:37:49] will be for lower income households. Part of one [1:37:50] of [1:37:52] the state's requirements [1:37:55] for public property. There will be [1:37:58] a publicly accessible park, and [1:38:01] will really help the city with [1:38:03] this project specifically. We are working [1:38:04] through final issues with [1:38:07] the company looking to close early [1:38:08] in 2026 [1:38:10] and [1:38:13] starting construction shortly after that. Some things coming [1:38:14] down the pike we [1:38:16] are working on is a offering for corner [1:38:17] stone [1:38:19] two. Just across the park is a 52-acre site. We [1:38:22] are working with ccp real estate [1:38:25] and srs real state. This will be an [1:38:28] offering for most likely a retail project [1:38:29] with [1:38:31] other mixed uses. The offering was [1:38:32] released earlier this [1:38:33] year with city council blessing looking [1:38:34] to have them in [1:38:37] the next week or two. More [1:38:40] updates shortly after [1:38:42] that. Some pending offerings we are [1:38:43] working on. The projects --the [1:38:46] properties noted in purple. We are [1:38:48] looking at 21 acres in neighborhood [1:38:50] e which is just across the [1:38:52] site here from flight. Then 24 acres [1:38:53] in [1:38:56] neighborhood d south which is [1:38:58] just across next to the landing community. Both [1:39:01] of them will more than likely be released [1:39:05] later this [1:39:08] year in fall. The [1:39:11] hanger sites specifically. Gorge [1:39:13] touched on this. South hanger is owned [1:39:16] by the navy. A lot of the environmental [1:39:19] issues we talked about. The city has [1:39:20] used that [1:39:21] building for a lot of temporary uses in [1:39:23] the past. There's [1:39:25] been a lot of filming and community [1:39:26] event that have [1:39:29] happened in there, nothing on a [1:39:31] longer term basis. We did a structural [1:39:32] assessment [1:39:35] and reuse analysis [1:39:37] in 2014 that looked add --temporary [1:39:38] uses [1:39:41] up to big full [1:39:47] occupance sincerity [1:39:48] occupancy. We are looking at a lot [1:39:50] of different ways of [1:39:51] doing that. What are things moving [1:39:53] forward. We are looking at [1:39:56] a lot of [1:39:57] temporary upgrades, electrical, and [1:39:59] other improvements we will [1:40:00] talk about shortly. The biggest thing [1:40:02] we are working on is [1:40:04] in response to the north hanger fire [1:40:05] what are ways [1:40:07] we can harden or just better protect [1:40:08] the south [1:40:09] hanger moving forward? I put a list together [1:40:11] on the slide here of all [1:40:14] the things that the city and the [1:40:15] city council approved since the north [1:40:17] hanger [1:40:19] fire. We have on side security. We [1:40:20] have mobile [1:40:23] camera trailers. We have lights [1:40:25] co located. We have temporary power [1:40:26] to provide power [1:40:29] to the egress. We modified [1:40:32] some of the [1:40:33] egress. There's razor wire around [1:40:35] the building. We have a fire panel [1:40:38] and fire alarm system. We have water [1:40:40] and hydrants for the building as well. What [1:40:46] are the costs? We have the costs for each [1:40:47] the [1:40:49] past fiscal years or the last two [1:40:50] and [1:40:53] the current one. The [1:40:56] cameras are on a rental basis. Lighting [1:40:58] and you can see all the other costs. About [1:40:59] just over a million dollars [1:41:01] a year and just kind of ongoing rentals [1:41:02] and basic security [1:41:05] for [1:41:06] the south hanger. We have also looked [1:41:08] at [1:41:10] some bigger improvements to help harden [1:41:11] the building, [1:41:13] more of a property approach. We looked [1:41:14] at permanent electric [1:41:15] sincerity. We completed design. It's [1:41:17] a million and a half [1:41:19] construction site. We have permanent [1:41:20] outside cameras. The [1:41:23] designs part [1:41:26] of the electricity package. [1:41:36] the additional hydrants and -- that [1:41:38] will be one and a half [1:41:41] and then we are working on a [1:41:44] complete fire technical analysis [1:41:45] report. All those improvement also [1:41:47] be five and a half to six molasses that [1:41:49] are just going into better protecting the [1:41:50] building on [1:41:52] a one time basis. That doesn't increase [1:41:53] the use of the [1:41:56] building if that makes sense. We are [1:41:59] looking protecting it under these improvements. Not [1:42:00] making [1:42:02] easier to [1:42:04] use. [1:42:05] >> so, an option that --options [1:42:06] we have been wrestling with [1:42:07] here is do we want to keep renting the [1:42:08] things, [1:42:10] the cameras, lights or should we move [1:42:11] in those directions [1:42:12] of the permanent installations of the projects [1:42:14] I just listed. The [1:42:16] graph on the list show itself you [1:42:17] just [1:42:19] keep going the rental route --that million [1:42:20] and a half on a [1:42:22] yearly basis. You spent about $10 [1:42:26] million over the next [1:42:27] several million years. You want mortgage [1:42:29] of the [1:42:32] permanent installation routes. You [1:42:33] are [1:42:35] looking at a 14, $15 million [1:42:38] in the next several years. This is [1:42:41] just focused on property protection [1:42:42] that wouldn't [1:42:44] make the building more usable than [1:42:46] it currently is. [1:42:47] >> quick on the south hanger ly [1:42:48] move to [1:42:49] the north hanger site. George talked [1:42:50] about this. This [1:42:53] is about an 85-acre site. The city [1:42:54] doesn't have [1:42:55] a lease on this. We have a license that [1:42:56] lets you go out and [1:42:59] trim some of [1:43:02] the weeds. Get better line of sight. The [1:43:03] regional park [1:43:05] use was removed as george mentioned. We [1:43:08] are going through a [1:43:11] reuse planning process. Options for [1:43:12] the [1:43:13] community to consider here shortly in [1:43:14] the near [1:43:17] future. In conjunction with the communication [1:43:18] process where they [1:43:19] are collecting a lot of your input [1:43:20] for what you want to see on [1:43:22] the north and south hanger sites and how [1:43:23] to communicate that bet [1:43:26] we are the community. Just to know [1:43:28] as george said we --the city will [1:43:29] plan it but we may [1:43:31] end up taking the properties. We are [1:43:32] going to come up [1:43:35] with a plan and develop -- whether [1:43:36] that's [1:43:37] the city, partially to the city or not [1:43:41] the city at all. [1:43:42] >> [1:43:43] my last two slides were focused on [1:43:44] the [1:43:45] north hanger fire. Wanted to address [1:43:47] this for the community. Take the [1:43:49] opportunity. We know that the fire [1:43:50] started on [1:43:52] november 7th. Burned for 24 days. Lot [1:43:53] of debris went [1:43:56] into around the property [1:43:58] and the community. Investigation is [1:43:59] closed. November [1:44:02] 10th the city council called a specialmeeting [1:44:05] and the navy's request the [1:44:07] city council signed up to take on [1:44:08] the responsibility for cleaning up [1:44:11] the responsibility into all of [1:44:14] the nearby neighborhoods. They have [1:44:15] a [1:44:16] cooperative agreement for contractors bringing [1:44:17] all [1:44:19] the debris removal the air monitoring and [1:44:20] the legal [1:44:22] and project management all that as [1:44:23] part of the cooperative management [1:44:26] and all the clean unoverseen by all [1:44:29] the regulatory agencies I [1:44:31] won't list the soup. There's a lot. [1:44:38] there was multiple rounds [1:44:40] of clean up. City and contractors [1:44:42] would take requests [1:44:43] for the community. Assess, clean up [1:44:45] and then assess to make [1:44:46] sure it was cleaned up correctly. There [1:44:48] was a final east [1:44:49] with the above ground route where [1:44:51] the regulator said if you go [1:44:52] out and make sure there's nothing else on [1:44:54] roofs and gutter [1:44:56] that would be sufficient to get everything done. What we [1:44:57] found is [1:44:59] that we would clean a house and then you [1:45:00] winds would [1:45:03] happen and more debris [1:45:04] would fall down. The above ground [1:45:06] effort was a one time [1:45:07] last effort to finish. That work was [1:45:09] completed [1:45:11] earlier this year. Also the navy's [1:45:12] contract, [1:45:13] the navy issued a contract to clean [1:45:15] up the debris in the hanger [1:45:18] foot print. That was an $18 [1:45:20] million contract. Their work was done [1:45:21] earlier and [1:45:22] back in july just a month ago. All [1:45:24] work by the city [1:45:26] and the navy is done for on site and [1:45:27] community [1:45:29] clean up. In the report writing phase [1:45:30] with [1:45:31] all of the regulatory issues that [1:45:33] all the [1:45:34] efforts done were sufficiently protective [1:45:36] of [1:45:39] health and [1:45:45] the iron environment. To date the [1:45:48] navy paid us [1:45:50] just shy of $80 million. This is kind of [1:45:53] the tuned to thank the council for all [1:45:55] the work. The staff, everybody who [1:45:57] is on site the day of, [1:46:00] the days following. The [1:46:02] weeks knowledging. Congresswoman kim [1:46:03] was important in our [1:46:05] conversation was the navy and other [1:46:06] regulatory agencies, [1:46:09] the navy staff who I spent [1:46:12] a number of countless hours on [1:46:15] the phone with. Tusd [1:46:17] on school closures, school openings, [1:46:18] their investigation and then all [1:46:20] of the partners I forgot to list, list [1:46:23] and all of the community members with our [1:46:24] patients and understanding [1:46:27] this is kind of [1:46:28] a very unique situation. That's my [1:46:30] presentation. I would be happy [1:46:33] to take any questions. [1:46:34] >> [1:46:36] thank you. You jumped through a [1:46:39] lot in a very quick and concise timeline. If [1:46:40] you have additional questions from [1:46:42] the public that's what the open [1:46:44] house is for. Really we will have [1:46:45] a [1:46:46] public comment opportunity here but [1:46:48] staff, and the council I think [1:46:50] most of us if not all of us will be [1:46:51] available to talk [1:46:53] to you about more in details and what the [1:46:54] city is doing [1:46:56] in our efforts so thank you. Do we [1:46:57] have [1:47:00] questions or [1:47:03] comments for ken? [1:47:04] >> yeah. Kent, thank [1:47:05] you for this. Thank you to everybody [1:47:06] who is worked on [1:47:07] this from the city. You were talking [1:47:09] about the [1:47:12] costs for a full [1:47:15] --they are somewhat out dated numbers [1:47:18] but it's a baseline to rehab [1:47:19] this hanger. There's also -- there [1:47:21] was also an estimate for [1:47:23] cost of taking it down which is what [1:47:24] was [1:47:27] it? Somewhere in the $40 million neighborhood? [1:47:28] >> [1:47:30] yeah. [1:47:31] >> not confirmed. >> [1:47:32] not confirmed. 20 to $40 million or [1:47:33] a [1:47:36] similar hanger [1:47:39] up in sunnyvale. The moffet, nasa. There's [1:47:42] two hangers [1:47:45] up there. [1:47:46] >> [1:47:47] there's just cost. It's important [1:47:48] to know and we don't where [1:47:53] --we have have a lot of activity at [1:47:54] the [1:47:56] south hanger. Do we have an active marketing [1:47:57] plan for the [1:47:59] south hanger uses this time? [1:48:00] >> right [1:48:01] now on [1:48:03] the city's website is listed as we aren't [1:48:05] accepting rentals. With very some [1:48:06] legacy [1:48:09] tenants who [1:48:10] know the operation. Understand the [1:48:12] operation and [1:48:15] the sensitivities. One of those groups [1:48:17] that we take everything on a case [1:48:18] by [1:48:21] case basis. [1:48:22] >> okay. Just expand on [1:48:23] that more. With the north hanger fire the [1:48:24] city has [1:48:27] taken all the measures. We didn't [1:48:28] want a [1:48:29] lot of people walking in and out of the [1:48:30] south hanger until it was safe [1:48:33] and secure. More questions and comments? [1:48:34] >> [1:48:36] I wanted to kind of --you went through [1:48:37] that really [1:48:38] quickly I appreciate the presentation. On the [1:48:39] city's front you [1:48:41] can get prepare to ask us questions [1:48:42] and tell us we are doing a bad [1:48:45] job if you want to. We have [1:48:48] got --about a hundred acres on [1:48:51] the market now between corner [1:48:54] stone and 52 acres and flight [1:48:57] 2.0 by is 24 acres. That [1:49:00] is a result of staff and the council [1:49:01] getting on the same [1:49:02] page and saying we can't sit around [1:49:03] and let the [1:49:06] property we do control just sit empty we [1:49:07] need [1:49:09] to develop it and get to [1:49:12] it. In the vein I was talking about [1:49:15] earlier. We were holding our partners [1:49:16] accountable for construction [1:49:18] and he we wanted to [1:49:20] be account build to the city to the [1:49:21] residents and to [1:49:23] the community. Thank you staff forgetting [1:49:24] on board with [1:49:26] that and really pushing the ball. We [1:49:27] take a lot of momentum that [1:49:29] you have seen in the slides and it'll [1:49:30] be exciting over [1:49:32] the next two to five years as the [1:49:33] projects start to go [1:49:36] vert val and have a lot [1:49:39] of the amenities. Have a lot [1:49:40] of the addition --the company project. [1:49:51] it was up to [1:49:53] 25, 30 years. Now we are talking a [1:49:54] shorter [1:49:55] timeline. We want to make sure all [1:49:57] of the partners are engaged and we [1:49:58] are [1:50:00] in lock step in how we [1:50:02] develop the base. Everybody asks about [1:50:06] the hangers. We ask about [1:50:09] the hangers. We had the [1:50:12] fire which put a [1:50:14] big -- main reality what we have feared and [1:50:15] --we [1:50:18] have the costs that councilmember [1:50:19] fink [1:50:21] was talking about just to keep the [1:50:22] south [1:50:24] hanger safe. The city has a financial [1:50:26] obligation that we can't pay for in [1:50:27] short term leases. We do [1:50:30] car commercials. We have $30,000. The [1:50:32] defense costs over a million dollars [1:50:33] to install. We are taking a hard local [1:50:35] and we committed as a council and [1:50:37] city organization to talk [1:50:39] with our public about real financial numbers [1:50:40] that [1:50:41] you saw on the slides. What it means [1:50:43] to keep the hanger [1:50:44] standing which we would all like. Most of [1:50:46] us would like. What [1:50:47] it means to potentially have to take [1:50:49] it down and also [1:50:51] what the risk is that we just bore [1:50:54] --the navy just bore with having the [1:50:55] north hanger [1:50:57] burnt. A lot of stuff coming up in [1:50:58] the [1:50:59] near future and hopefully you are [1:51:01] seeing this. Are the slides [1:51:04] going to be available online on the website? We [1:51:05] had -- you know six presentations [1:51:07] today and I sat through [1:51:08] two hours of fire hose of content [1:51:10] f you want to [1:51:11] revisit some of that you can go on [1:51:13] the website and check out [1:51:15] the slides. I will turn it over to [1:51:16] city manager [1:51:19] for some closing comments and [1:51:22] we will take [1:51:23] public comments. If there aren't any [1:51:24] we will move into the open house to [1:51:28] have a more casual dialogue. [1:51:29] >> [1:51:30] I want to thank all our partners for [1:51:31] the presentations [1:51:32] tonight. With that I will turn it [1:51:34] back to you to open [1:51:35] public comment. [1:51:36] >> thank you. So we [1:51:37] are going to take [1:51:38] public comment. If you want to make [1:51:39] a formal comment on the record you can come [1:51:40] up [1:51:42] to the microphone here and address the [1:51:46] lra [1:51:48] on anything that we just discussed. I [1:51:49] don't know if we [1:51:52] have any requests to speak. [1:51:53] >> [1:51:54] we have one request to speak in person [1:51:55] and [1:51:57] then it's william johnson. [1:51:58] >> okay. If [1:51:59] you [1:52:00] want to speak and you haven't filled [1:52:01] --do we have cards? [1:52:02] >> we do. >> [1:52:03] if you want to speak and you haven't [1:52:04] filled out a card you can [1:52:06] come up here and speak and then fill out [1:52:07] a card or fill out [1:52:10] a card and then [1:52:13] come speak. Mr. [1:52:16] johnson, go head. [1:52:17] >> just because [1:52:18] of restrictions please try to keep your [1:52:19] comments to three minutes or less [1:52:20] if [1:52:22] you can. Thank you. [1:52:23] >> thank you [1:52:24] very much. We're in a rush so I will try [1:52:25] to slow [1:52:28] everything down for a second. Momentum, [1:52:30] team work, those are great themes [1:52:31] by the school [1:52:34] district thank you [1:52:36] very much. I will start on refugee [1:52:37] and in [1:52:40] fo rt ress, in spirit we [1:52:43] can trust. In ardo r and thanksgiving [1:52:44] come have [1:52:46] a beer [1:52:49] with us. An [1:52:52] athlete graduate from t ustin [1:52:55] in 02. I [1:52:57] competed internationally. I moved [1:52:58] my city [1:53:00] here with an outbarred the future, very [1:53:01] excited to hear this [1:53:03] deep discussion this evening. Thank you [1:53:04] to [1:53:06] all the public servants and to those who [1:53:07] spoke I'm here on [1:53:09] a topic of history. I wanted to put [1:53:13] in the public mind that this [1:53:16] week important historical event [1:53:18] is happening. Tustin high school will [1:53:19] open [1:53:22] it's home football game against [1:53:24] the tritons. They the 11th ranked [1:53:25] team [1:53:26] in california. We can beat them we [1:53:28] have the horses to do [1:53:29] it. I would like to invite everybody [1:53:31] in the spirit of community [1:53:34] to come to that game. At half [1:53:37] time of that game melissa [1:53:40] trout has worked to build [1:53:43] a hall of fame for tustin and [1:53:45] it's athletes. We will honor the third inducte [1:53:47] into that organization. The first [1:53:49] was coach miller [1:53:52] who [1:53:55] made the team. The third [1:53:57] is chris chester, a dear personal friend of [1:53:58] minute and I carry [1:54:01] the duty of organizing the community [1:54:02] of [1:54:04] supporters around him. A lot of important [1:54:05] topics [1:54:07] on the topic of the future and these [1:54:08] new technologies [1:54:10] which we are [1:54:13] going [1:54:16] to find education. I was taught that [1:54:17] really [1:54:18] great businesses and great futures formed [1:54:19] not [1:54:22] on new technologies but on ancient [1:54:25] technology that don't. As we all talk [1:54:27] here about forming community and the lots [1:54:28] of land we are [1:54:30] parceling up I invite everybody to [1:54:31] think about [1:54:33] tribes and which tribe you support and [1:54:34] I invite you to support my [1:54:37] tribe, the tailors. Join us please [1:54:40] at an ancient [1:54:41] gathering, newly formed called game [1:54:43] craft. Have you been talking about. I [1:54:46] support that. They are working with [1:54:47] simple technologies [1:54:49] like parkbenches [1:54:52] and beers. Locally brewed beers. You [1:54:53] can [1:54:54] join us at 5:00 for that or 7:00 for [1:54:55] the kickoff and [1:54:58] half time celebration. I believe [1:55:01] that these technologies transforming [1:55:02] in ways [1:55:03] we don't truly understand. I believe [1:55:04] the redevelopment [1:55:06] of tustin is one of the most important [1:55:07] topics we have so thank you [1:55:10] for the [1:55:11] leadership. I believe that there are topic [1:55:13] that are far bigger being discussed [1:55:15] in the national state and local level [1:55:16] that all [1:55:19] politics is local so I'm happy to [1:55:20] be here. I [1:55:22] would be happy to talk to anyone that [1:55:23] wants [1:55:24] to come talk football or anything [1:55:25] else this friday, thank [1:55:28] you very much. [1:55:29] >> okay. Thank you [1:55:32] for your comments. Any time you [1:55:35] mention beer, councilmember gallagher gets [1:55:37] excited. Do we have --yeah. I don't know. We need [1:55:38] -- [1:55:41] maybe the city clerk or staff can [1:55:43] help coordinate I can't call on hands. If [1:55:44] we can [1:55:46] get cards passed out or if --how many want [1:55:50] to speak? Just two? Three. All [1:55:51] right. We will go in order that you [1:55:53] are in. From [1:55:56] me to back. Sir? You will be [1:55:57] next and I can't see because of the lights. Third in [1:55:59] the back. [1:56:00] >> if [1:56:01] you can just state your name for the [1:56:04] record. [1:56:05] >> my name is si ellis. I'm [1:56:08] the commander [1:56:10] of the american legion. We represent [1:56:13] all the military veterans in the city and [1:56:14] the reason that [1:56:17] I came up to speak is [1:56:20] that I want to [1:56:21] thank bryan and the orange county [1:56:23] rescue mission for what they [1:56:26] do for our veterans, [1:56:29] for the veteran's [1:56:31] out post that they support. You do [1:56:32] a great [1:56:35] job for our veterans. Thank you. [1:56:50] >> I [1:56:51] normally represent the history of [1:56:53] this town but I also [1:56:56] represent the people that died -- [1:56:58] that left here. We have been trying [1:56:59] to [1:57:00] save something at the hanger for ten [1:57:02] years and we had an [1:57:03] event about ten years and I started [1:57:05] save [1:57:06] the hanger's.com. We tried to see [1:57:08] what was going on [1:57:10] and now I understand more all the things [1:57:11] you [1:57:13] are going through. I had no idea how [1:57:17] complex I knew nobody would [1:57:19] get together. I --we had a meeting a [1:57:20] couple of men on [1:57:23] the board here that basically met [1:57:24] with [1:57:26] the general over [1:57:29] in irvine that are [1:57:32] --40 to $60 million [1:57:33] museum. I hope that people don't just [1:57:35] go to the [1:57:37] flying leathernecks and then to hollywood [1:57:38] or [1:57:41] go to some other [1:57:44] area. That [1:57:46] stop here and go to a building that [1:57:47] I [1:57:49] would love to save that used to bring [1:57:53] in helicopters safely and also [1:57:55] the blimps. I want that building and [1:57:58] the towers saved someplace even if [1:57:59] it's next to [1:58:02] the hanger that maybe torn down at [1:58:05] least we can tell people your [1:58:07] son or grandfather didn't die in vain. We [1:58:08] have [1:58:10] the memory of him and also all the other people that [1:58:11] were there. The [1:58:14] people that fed them. The people [1:58:17] that had all the fun [1:58:18] and enjoy going to the church and [1:58:20] being married there which [1:58:22] was torn down. So what I'm saying a [1:58:26] lot [1:58:28] of memories. This is a military town. I [1:58:29] grew up as a military kid traving [1:58:31] every two years. Is there pollution [1:58:32] in [1:58:34] this area? Absolutely. I remember [1:58:35] being up in [1:58:37] marin count which where the planes [1:58:38] with coming in to land [1:58:41] and watching my dad and having sometimes [1:58:42] the [1:58:44] guys have to dump the fuel in [1:58:47] the bay. So, wherever there is military [1:58:48] you will [1:58:50] find this pollution and we were [1:58:52] informed by the gentleman that took over [1:58:53] in [1:58:55] san diego that was watching the clean up [1:58:56] from --we [1:58:59] are dealing the navy here. They said [1:59:02] to me actually --emailed to us [1:59:04] that they were going to condemn the [1:59:05] area [1:59:07] for a decade where the building is. They [1:59:08] said we [1:59:11] love your idea for a museum. We always [1:59:13] have but you can't keep it here. Have [1:59:14] you to move it and I gave that [1:59:17] information to the mayor and the mayor [1:59:18] said [1:59:20] I didn't [1:59:22] know that. We still have a lack of [1:59:23] communication [1:59:25] with the navy and this gentleman stood [1:59:26] up and talked about [1:59:29] it. I was in the military, yeah, I [1:59:30] know. It [1:59:32] takes a long time to get [1:59:34] an answer. Please think beyond all [1:59:35] the wonderful [1:59:37] things that you guys are doing and I [1:59:38] think it's [1:59:39] fabulous what you are doing. Please [1:59:41] save something for the memory of [1:59:43] the people that made it possible for [1:59:44] you to do what [1:59:47] ru doing today. Thank you. [1:59:48] >> [1:59:50] thank you. [1:59:51] >> [1:59:56] and now -- sir, go head. Go [1:59:58] head. Just let everybody know. It's 7:01 the [1:59:59] open house is open [2:00:01] I think. Once we are done we will [2:00:02] all move up [2:00:05] there. [2:00:06] >> hello. I'm just [2:00:08] a resident here. I really appreciated [2:00:11] one of the -- theme of this nights [2:00:12] which [2:00:14] was safety. For the schools [2:00:17] --especially with [2:00:19] the armstrong bridge because car death [2:00:20] deaths [2:00:23] one of the biggest dangers for children [2:00:24] and for [2:00:25] just us adults too. We deserve to [2:00:26] live too. I [2:00:28] really appreciate some of that safety [2:00:29] and I hope that you [2:00:32] keep in mind with these [2:00:35] development plans about how [2:00:38] to minimize traffic [2:00:40] violence, especially for a lot of [2:00:41] these facilities which [2:00:45] are public [2:00:47] goods and schools, so, finding ways [2:00:51] that we can get [2:00:53] people around in these new communities [2:00:54] safely. Thank you. [2:00:55] >> [2:00:57] all right. Thank you for your [2:00:58] comments. Do we have any other questions [2:01:00] to speak in [2:01:03] the room? Anyone online? [2:01:04] >> [2:01:06] no. [2:01:07] >> okay. See what [2:01:09] my [2:01:12] agenda says. All right. No [2:01:15] vote is required. Because [2:01:17] it's a receive and file item. So the recommendation [2:01:18] is [2:01:20] that the city council -- receive and [2:01:24] file the presentation and we [2:01:25] will. Mr. City manager do you have [2:01:27] a report? [2:01:28] >> no report [2:01:29] tonight. [2:01:30] >> mr. City attorney. >> [2:01:31] no further report. [2:01:32] >> thank [2:01:33] you. Bring it back to council and [2:01:34] I [2:01:35] will encourage us to be brief. [2:01:36] >> mr. [2:01:37] mayor. We have one request to speak [2:01:39] out in the atrium. [2:01:40] >> [2:01:41] okay. We will bring it back to the public comment. [2:01:49] >> if you are automatic in the atrium [2:01:51] and [2:01:53] you wanted to formerly address the [2:01:54] council [2:01:57] please come in this room. [2:02:06] >> [2:02:09] hello. I'm [2:02:11] a father, community member and just [2:02:15] wanted to speak on if [2:02:18] the level of remediation that is going on [2:02:19] with in [2:02:21] the area of the base [2:02:24] is that based on the uses [2:02:26] of the lra identities in the area [2:02:30] like --is the -- are they going to [2:02:33] go more extensively [2:02:34] on the --mitigation of any of the [2:02:36] pollution on the area based on [2:02:39] what the [2:02:40] lra chooses to implement in certain [2:02:41] areas of the base? [2:02:42] >> and I know [2:02:43] the [2:02:44] staff will be available to address your [2:02:45] question out there. We aren't supposed [2:02:47] to engage in dialogue. Ly use my public [2:02:48] comments in [2:02:50] a second to kind of generally answer [2:02:51] your question. Thank [2:02:53] you for your question. [2:02:54] >> thank you. >> [2:02:55] anyone else [2:02:57] want to address the council [2:03:00] or the lra? Council acting as the [2:03:03] lra. We will move back into the council [2:03:05] comments and reports. [2:03:06] >> thank you. Thank [2:03:08] you mayor. I appreciate that question. Now [2:03:09] I'm curious about it [2:03:12] too. I will hold the rest [2:03:15] for the [2:03:17] next meeting. For more join us at [2:03:20] the sunset market. Hope to see you [2:03:24] in two days. [2:03:25] >> [2:03:26] thank you. [2:03:27] >> the purposes of -- I [2:03:28] have no [2:03:29] comments, we will table them for the [2:03:30] next meeting. [2:03:31] >> [2:03:32] thank you. Councilmember gallagher. [2:03:33] >> [2:03:36] thank you. [2:03:37] >> we will [2:03:39] follow the [2:03:42] pattern. [2:03:43] >> thank you. I [2:03:45] know staff will get a more detailed [2:03:48] and technical answer. There [2:03:51] requirements to remediate. It's based [2:03:52] on [2:03:53] federal law and state law. There are [2:03:54] environmental hazards that [2:03:56] are identified by the state that go [2:03:57] onto register. We are kind