1 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:17,300 Good evening. Welcome to ordinance city council, 2 00:01:19,790 --> 00:01:43,010 public hearing on July 20th, 2026. Here it said we were starting at 5.30 p.m., you'll notice it is 5.34. And the reason why it's 5.34 is that we started at 8.40 this morning. And we finished at 5.15. So we've had a 19-minute supper break. 3 00:01:44,250 --> 00:01:46,030 Anyway, it's good to see you all this evening. 4 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,860 I'll call this public hearing to order. 5 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,860 As Mayor, City of Vernon, and in spirit of this gathering, 6 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,420 I recognize the City of Vernon is located 7 00:01:57,420 --> 00:01:59,460 in the traditional territory of the people 8 00:01:59,460 --> 00:02:01,000 of the Okanagan Nation. 9 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,680 Those who have looked at the agenda 10 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,940 will realize that we're dealing with three items tonight. 11 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,340 And we'll introduce each one one at a time. 12 00:02:14,260 --> 00:02:15,660 And we're going to do the first one. 13 00:02:15,660 --> 00:02:22,410 So, this public hearing is convened pursuant to local government act in order to consider 14 00:02:22,410 --> 00:02:23,110 the following. 15 00:02:23,730 --> 00:02:31,570 Official Community Plan, Polson Village Center, amendment by law 6080 for 2026. 16 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:40,030 By law 6080 is to redesign the property to accommodate a proposed mixed-use community. 17 00:02:41,900 --> 00:02:46,940 All submissions received by the deadline have been posted into the city's website for 18 00:02:46,940 --> 00:02:51,900 reviewing and are available on the media table. That's straight back there a few. 19 00:02:53,540 --> 00:02:56,020 Some people may know the guy in the back corner there. 20 00:03:00,740 --> 00:03:02,280 Thank you. Thank you Roger. 21 00:03:03,140 --> 00:03:09,160 As those who don't, they should know. That's Roger Knox. At the back of the room, there's 22 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,200 an information binder. 23 00:03:12,740 --> 00:03:15,920 Any late submissions will be noted by the Corporate Officer on my 24 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:20,680 right. To begin with, the administration will be asked to present the application and then 25 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:26,000 the applicant who are here today will be asked if they would like to address their application. 26 00:03:26,420 --> 00:03:31,020 I understand they will. At this public hearing, any person present who believes that their 27 00:03:31,020 --> 00:03:36,360 interest in property is affected by the proposed by-law shall be given a reasonable opportunity 28 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:42,120 to be heard on matters contained in the proposed by-law under consideration. All speakers, 29 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,880 Please keep your presentation as concise and on topic as possible. 30 00:03:46,260 --> 00:03:54,900 My responsibility as chairs to ensure that all comments related to the matters of the proposed by-law and not about other items. 31 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:03,060 Those of you who wish to speak concerning the proposed by-law should approach the podium on our left on your right 32 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:10,600 and commence your presentation to counsel by slowly and clearly stating your name and address. 33 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:17,320 as well. Please print your name on the speakers list at the podium so we may 34 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,360 record it accurately in the minutes. Then you may proceed with your 35 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,620 presentation. This hearing is being live streamed and video recorded and may be 36 00:04:26,620 --> 00:04:31,940 accessed on the city's website. You'll see the sign up there saying we are on air. 37 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:38,080 Members of Council may ask questions of you following your presentation. 38 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,140 However, the function of the council members is to listen to the views of public. 39 00:04:42,460 --> 00:04:47,120 It's not the function of council of this public hearing to debate the merits of these issues 40 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,360 with individual citizens. 41 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:54,520 Once this public hearing is closed, council cannot receive any further input. 42 00:04:55,580 --> 00:05:00,260 During the hearing we ask that everyone be respectful of differing viewpoints and refrain 43 00:05:00,260 --> 00:05:04,860 from applause or other expressions of approval or disapproval. 44 00:05:04,860 --> 00:05:16,100 At the conclusion of Public Hearing Council we reconvene the regular open meeting in order to consider third reading of the subject by law and you will all welcome to remain in attendance. 45 00:05:16,980 --> 00:05:17,820 Thank you. 46 00:05:25,390 --> 00:05:28,770 Ms. Wood, can you provide the publication information? 47 00:05:29,730 --> 00:05:36,430 Your Worship, it was public sized in the July 9th and 16th edition of the Morning Star. 48 00:05:37,890 --> 00:05:38,910 Thank you, Ms. Wood. 49 00:05:40,010 --> 00:05:45,650 Mr. Miles, can you provide counsel in the public with an overview of the Official Community Plan 50 00:05:45,650 --> 00:05:51,170 Paulson Village Center Amendment by law 6080 of 2026? 51 00:05:52,670 --> 00:05:55,330 Welcome, Mr. Miles. Certainly. Thank you, Your Worship. 52 00:05:56,930 --> 00:06:03,250 As stated, this is an Official Community Plan Amendment application for 2501 14th Avenue. 53 00:06:04,950 --> 00:06:09,990 The purpose of this application is for a proposed future postal and village center. 54 00:06:10,670 --> 00:06:15,850 There's a number of addresses and properties that go along with this proposal. 55 00:06:16,250 --> 00:06:18,470 That will detail in a second here. 56 00:06:20,860 --> 00:06:22,640 So there are eight parcels in total. 57 00:06:22,980 --> 00:06:24,700 They highlighted in blue on your screen there. 58 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,740 They total about 9.3 hectares or 23 acres in size. 59 00:06:29,660 --> 00:06:31,900 The subject properties are in the Polson neighborhood 60 00:06:31,900 --> 00:06:36,460 and are primarily accessed via Highway 6 and Kalamalka Lake Road. 61 00:06:37,020 --> 00:06:41,620 The properties currently house a number of businesses including the Cal Tire Head offices, 62 00:06:42,180 --> 00:06:44,700 BNA Brewing, and the BC Forestry Building. 63 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,240 The northern properties are directly adjacent to Poulson Mall, 64 00:06:49,580 --> 00:06:53,720 which has a number of amenities including grocery store, restaurants, and baking institutions. 65 00:06:54,460 --> 00:06:59,380 To the west, the properties board are the CN Railway, Poulson Park, and Vernon Creek. 66 00:07:01,750 --> 00:07:07,230 The current land use is a mix of designations, including natural area and industrial, with 67 00:07:07,230 --> 00:07:11,690 the majority of the site designated urban neighborhood shown in the dark orange. 68 00:07:12,730 --> 00:07:16,330 The urban neighborhood designation currently provides for a variety of residential building 69 00:07:16,330 --> 00:07:23,110 types, including apartments and townhouses, and a small portion of the total area's designated 70 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:27,430 designated industrial, which are the two smaller properties in the southwest corner. 71 00:07:29,970 --> 00:07:35,990 Not under review today, but for reference, there's also a number of zoning designations that go along with the properties 72 00:07:36,530 --> 00:07:40,870 so we could refer back to this if needed, but we won't go into detail in the zoning today. 73 00:07:42,900 --> 00:07:45,200 A quick aerial look at the properties. 74 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:54,380 You can see the Cal Tire Office is centered in the middle with the vacant lands to the north that are adjacent to BNA brewing. 75 00:07:57,820 --> 00:08:02,920 The applicant is provided an initial concept package which was attached as part of the report 76 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:03,760 for your review. 77 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:10,480 A preliminary site plan shows the initial concept and is just to give an idea of how the 78 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:15,520 future buildings could be integrated into the site and the existing road network. 79 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:24,010 This slide just shows an overall expansion of the concept on the left it shows pedestrian 80 00:08:24,010 --> 00:08:32,710 and in-cycle proposed pedestrian cycle connections and on the right preliminary open realm and public space 81 00:08:33,730 --> 00:08:37,830 concept, which is focused on a central plaza, which is the red dot in the middle. 82 00:08:40,410 --> 00:08:47,270 Just a quick review of the OCB amendment process two-day. So at advance of this submission and 83 00:08:47,270 --> 00:08:52,850 the formal application, the applicant conducted a public engagement outreach, which included an open 84 00:08:52,850 --> 00:08:59,490 house in September of last year. The open house was held at BNA Brewing adjacent with more than 85 00:08:59,490 --> 00:09:06,070 160 people in attendance and that summary of that engagement is attached as part of the report. 86 00:09:07,450 --> 00:09:12,930 Following that the application was accepted in February, went through a planning review and referral 87 00:09:12,930 --> 00:09:20,690 in March. It was considered by the APC in May which supported the application and first and second 88 00:09:20,690 --> 00:09:23,530 and readings in June, which leads us to today 89 00:09:23,530 --> 00:09:25,850 for public hearing and potentially third reading. 90 00:09:29,140 --> 00:09:31,760 On a broader level, just to give a recap 91 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,440 on the overall development process, 92 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,580 we are at the left side here, which is the OCP amendment stage 93 00:09:39,340 --> 00:09:42,120 and prior to adoption we have to go through the public hearing, 94 00:09:42,140 --> 00:09:44,620 but at this point there are no other requirements 95 00:09:44,620 --> 00:09:47,100 or conditions on the OCP amendment stage. 96 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,540 After that is the rezoning stage, 97 00:09:50,540 --> 00:09:57,080 which a lot of the technical studies and requirements will come in including the site disclosure statement 98 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:03,860 and provincial approval for that. The traffic impact assessment and provincial approval there. 99 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:13,020 There is currently a TIA ongoing between the city, MOT and the applicants currently. 100 00:10:14,060 --> 00:10:19,700 Other infrastructure improvements could involve the realignment of 26th street, transit improvements, 101 00:10:19,700 --> 00:10:22,680 and this is where a detailed surface agreement would come in. 102 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,620 After that development permits, 103 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,880 any needed subdivisions and building permits would come in 104 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,020 and that's where form and character guidelines of any buildings 105 00:10:33,020 --> 00:10:33,680 would be done. 106 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,160 That's when you get your detailed architectural designs and elevations 107 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,780 and that sort of design level. 108 00:10:42,950 --> 00:10:47,770 In regards to the overall growth strategy of the City of Vernon, 109 00:10:48,870 --> 00:10:55,670 It provides a couple of these key criteria, including increasing housing and designated 110 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:58,850 areas where infrastructure already exists or plan. 111 00:10:59,910 --> 00:11:05,910 So this proposal would allow for a mixed use village center and allow for greater intensive 112 00:11:05,910 --> 00:11:09,490 commercial opportunities and height within this area. 113 00:11:10,130 --> 00:11:14,430 It is also within the current urban containment boundary and focused growth boundary. 114 00:11:14,430 --> 00:11:22,840 The report provides a more detailed policy analysis, but just a few have been highlighted 115 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,720 here, including housing types and tenures. 116 00:11:27,980 --> 00:11:36,120 This proposal could provide a mix of housing types, including missing middle typeologies 117 00:11:36,500 --> 00:11:37,460 to help the area. 118 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,720 Jobs and employment, the proposal is adjacent to a number nearby commercial and industrial 119 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:49,540 and utility employers, and again would increase some residential density in the area. 120 00:11:52,270 --> 00:11:55,070 So administration is supporting the proposed OCP amendment. 121 00:11:56,790 --> 00:12:00,310 Again, because it's in the urban containment and focus growth boundary, 122 00:12:00,530 --> 00:12:04,070 would increase commercial and residential opportunities for the area. 123 00:12:04,850 --> 00:12:10,010 It would also utilize existing park connections and transportation connections, 124 00:12:10,010 --> 00:12:12,130 including the CalMELCA multi-use path. 125 00:12:12,890 --> 00:12:18,630 And again, the adjacency to Poulson Park and other amenities for a walkable neighborhood. 126 00:12:19,610 --> 00:12:22,310 And that concludes staff remarks, thank you for the motion. 127 00:12:26,690 --> 00:12:27,290 Thank you, Mr. Miles. 128 00:12:29,110 --> 00:12:31,290 Council, any questions, Mr. Miles? 129 00:12:33,590 --> 00:12:34,790 Do any question I have? 130 00:12:34,850 --> 00:12:39,690 Is anything shifted from the time council have seen this before tonight's public hearing? 131 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,720 In regards to the application itself remains the same. 132 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,580 There has been no changes. 133 00:12:47,580 --> 00:12:48,860 Thank you. 134 00:12:53,820 --> 00:12:56,740 Seeing no more questions to Council, 135 00:13:04,970 --> 00:13:08,530 will the applicant like to make a presentation? 136 00:13:09,830 --> 00:13:09,930 Okay. 137 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,960 Good evening, Mayor and Council. 138 00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:32,050 I'm here tonight to talk about the via district. 139 00:13:32,570 --> 00:13:37,990 My name is Andrew Kerbis and I'm the Executive Managing Director at Air Relief Real Estate. 140 00:13:39,530 --> 00:13:43,090 I'll keep this short and sweet since you guys have been here since 840. 141 00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:47,070 We, a via district represents discussions and 142 00:13:47,070 --> 00:13:54,050 planning that's spanned many years, maybe even close to two decades since we've owned that property. 143 00:13:55,190 --> 00:13:58,830 For Aeroleaf, this is more than a development project. 144 00:13:59,310 --> 00:14:01,950 It's a long-term investment in our hometown. 145 00:14:03,030 --> 00:14:09,370 As you likely already know, we're a burden-based organization with deep roots in the community. 146 00:14:10,410 --> 00:14:19,390 We are committed to creating a neighborhood that adds lasting value for the residents, businesses, and future generations. 147 00:14:20,490 --> 00:14:26,930 Thank you to Council, staff, and everyone who participated in the process. 148 00:14:27,410 --> 00:14:29,590 We appreciate your consideration tonight. 149 00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:45,940 Council, any questions for arrow leaf. 150 00:14:45,940 --> 00:14:47,060 Alright, 151 00:14:54,890 --> 00:14:59,630 we'll move to the next item which is representation. 152 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:24,900 The public. Ms. Wood, do we have any written submissions not included in the public agenda? Your worship, there are two items that have been received following publication of the agenda. An email dated July 17th from S. Hoverg and an email dated July 20th from B. Taylor, both of which have been provided to council have been included on the website and in the back table. 153 00:15:30,010 --> 00:15:32,350 Council, you have the paper in front of you. 154 00:15:41,770 --> 00:15:42,970 Okay. Now it's time. 155 00:15:44,990 --> 00:15:52,350 I would like to call for a first time for representation from the public in attendance, who would like to speak to this application. 156 00:15:55,060 --> 00:15:55,600 Feel free. 157 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,000 It's all good. 158 00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:10,300 Thank you. 159 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,520 Just a reminder you provide us with your name and address. Yes. 160 00:16:15,740 --> 00:16:17,260 So we can get it for the minutes. 161 00:16:17,260 --> 00:16:26,120 My name is Loretta Locke, L-O-C-K-E, and I live in 4108 Leatherback Road in Vernon. 162 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:29,320 Thank you. 163 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:33,760 So can I begin? 164 00:16:33,980 --> 00:16:34,360 Absolutely. 165 00:16:34,580 --> 00:16:39,020 Okay. Good evening, Mr. Mayor and Council. My name is Loretta Locke. 166 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:45,520 I'm here to speak in carcer support of OCP amendment 6-0-8-O. 167 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:52,720 I recognize tonight's hearing is restricted to the land use redesignation of these 18 acres. 168 00:16:53,440 --> 00:17:08,940 I'm using this final public window to address arrow leaf real estate 16 story layout because it marks our absolute last opportunity for public input before new provincial housing legislation completely eliminates these democratic hearings. 169 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:15,760 Like neighbors who have submitted written briefs tonight, I have a deep serious concerns 170 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:21,420 regarding whether our municipality possesses the actual water volume capacity to sustain 171 00:17:21,420 --> 00:17:24,980 a project of this scale amidst chronic summer shortages. 172 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:31,500 However, shifting this underutilized industrial zone into a high density transit-oriented village 173 00:17:32,010 --> 00:17:33,660 is smart growth. 174 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:40,340 Aero leaves environmental studies appropriately address wind, shadow and heat island effects 175 00:17:40,340 --> 00:17:45,200 and they have committed to protecting the ecological integrity of Vernon Creek and Pulse 176 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,060 and Park through stormwater planters and extensive tree plantings. 177 00:17:49,660 --> 00:17:52,960 Council has a unique window to partner with this vision. 178 00:17:53,780 --> 00:17:58,620 We are way ahead of construction, meaning we can introduce modern source control engineering 179 00:17:58,620 --> 00:18:04,240 standards right now to ensure these promised treatment zones handle surface 180 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:10,480 runoff flawlessly. Current standards civil engineering designs treat pavement 181 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:16,040 runoff as a waste product, flushing it off site into storm sewers that pollute 182 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,840 our lakes while we import expensive drinking water to irrigate adjacent spaces. 183 00:18:21,860 --> 00:18:26,780 This costly cycle wastes public funds on both ends of the pipe. 184 00:18:29,310 --> 00:18:30,330 By formalizing 185 00:18:30,330 --> 00:18:35,370 Building Brad Lancaster's Rainwater Harvesting Design Framework within the final approvals 186 00:18:35,370 --> 00:18:43,390 under by-law 6200, we can ensure that high-volume pavement and roundabout runoff is funneled 187 00:18:43,390 --> 00:18:48,030 throughout concrete curb cuts directly into deeply recessed by retention basins. 188 00:18:48,670 --> 00:18:54,430 This passive reservoir halts the progressive depletion of our groundwater levels by actively 189 00:18:54,430 --> 00:18:58,410 recharging our sinking aquifers while saving tax payer dollars. 190 00:18:58,410 --> 00:19:03,370 By utilizing surface retention, we downsize underground storm pipes. 191 00:19:04,370 --> 00:19:09,190 This knits an immediate credit of roughly $2 per square foot over conventional drainage. 192 00:19:09,890 --> 00:19:15,250 Growing a dense canopy at zero utility cost and achieving permanent water savings. 193 00:19:16,270 --> 00:19:22,470 I request a formal 15 minute delegation spot on the September 8th council agenda to deliver 194 00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:26,290 an intensive technical briefing to council and engineering staff. 195 00:19:26,830 --> 00:19:27,410 Thank you. 196 00:19:27,410 --> 00:19:29,130 Thank you very much. 197 00:19:30,650 --> 00:19:33,490 Council, any specific questions for the presenter? 198 00:19:34,830 --> 00:19:36,510 Seeing none, thank you. 199 00:19:37,010 --> 00:19:38,390 Okay, I'll just write down my name. 200 00:19:57,590 --> 00:19:58,090 Thank you. 201 00:20:15,450 --> 00:20:18,650 Janet Parkins, 758, Cypress Drive, cold stream. 202 00:20:20,140 --> 00:20:23,790 I agree that this proposal is growth where growth belongs. 203 00:20:24,510 --> 00:20:29,650 This is Brownfield land within the urban containment and focused growth boundaries that is currently 204 00:20:29,650 --> 00:20:31,350 designated urban neighborhood. 205 00:20:32,170 --> 00:20:36,750 Infrastructure is already in place and no upgrades are anticipated for water or sewer. 206 00:20:37,410 --> 00:20:42,830 The proposal is for mixed housing, increasing residential density, a range of housing types 207 00:20:42,830 --> 00:20:47,550 and tendencies are planned, including town homes, rentals and condos, senior and family 208 00:20:47,550 --> 00:20:52,470 friendly housing, including smaller and multi-unit buildings, increasing affordability. 209 00:20:53,250 --> 00:20:59,390 The location of lines with Vernon's transportation plan is adjacent to existing public transit, 210 00:20:59,390 --> 00:21:06,130 will increase transit ridership, reduce vehicle use, decrease congestion, and increase walking and cycling. 211 00:21:06,690 --> 00:21:10,270 Because cars are not needed, even surface parking is minimized. 212 00:21:10,710 --> 00:21:13,950 The location is adjacent to a wide variety of amenities. 213 00:21:14,530 --> 00:21:19,510 Poulson Mall is on the north boundary with an existing grocery store, restaurants, a bank, and other shops. 214 00:21:20,190 --> 00:21:25,230 The via district is near commercial businesses and employers, and a hotel is being considered. 215 00:21:25,230 --> 00:21:29,050 Additional retail opportunities are planned within this development. 216 00:21:29,610 --> 00:21:35,370 It will be a walkable neighborhood connected to Polson Park and Vernon Creek trails and a multi-use path. 217 00:21:36,130 --> 00:21:40,870 The development plans include varied and flexible public spaces for community participation, 218 00:21:41,670 --> 00:21:46,830 programming, recreation, and partnerships and collaborations with community organizations. 219 00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:52,030 Street trees, green spaces, and connection to nature are included in the development plans. 220 00:21:52,030 --> 00:21:57,330 being so close to the downtown core, it will also contribute to the vibrancy of the city core. 221 00:21:58,050 --> 00:22:02,950 Water conservation will be maximized with poorest services and stormwater treatment zones. 222 00:22:03,650 --> 00:22:09,610 I think this development is a well-considered thoughtful and thorough plan that will be an asset to the city of Vernon. 223 00:22:10,270 --> 00:22:15,670 My only concern is that I have not seen estimates as to what the different types of housing will cost. 224 00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:24,360 Council, any questions for the presenter? 225 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,240 Seeing none. 226 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,840 one. Thank you. 227 00:22:45,980 --> 00:22:46,200 My 228 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,800 name is Sierra Vanderdeen, 6211 229 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:59,460 Starr Road Vernon. Although I live on Starr Road, I frequent businesses in the Pulse 230 00:22:59,460 --> 00:23:07,100 in Middleton area frequently, weekly or nearly daily, and my concerns are around traffic 231 00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:16,120 calming especially and also around some non-market housing. So I come down from 232 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:24,360 Middleton and from the East Vernon area. That's a short drive for me. But coming down from 233 00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:31,840 Middleton on to the Poulson area especially with the Highway 6 intersection with Kalamalka. 234 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:41,860 and then the way that Poulson Mall is configured with the driveway out next to save on the shoppers and then out on the highway 6. 235 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:49,780 I am frankly shocked that there hasn't been more accidents there because the high speeds on highway 6 236 00:23:50,800 --> 00:24:01,420 because drivers often don't slow down on these areas and there's enough lights there but even the lights only slow down drivers a bit. 237 00:24:01,420 --> 00:24:08,320 it, especially in that area where you're pulling out behind with the shoppers and there's 238 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,800 a blind corner there from Highway 6, from a little spillway. 239 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,080 I believe you know what I'm referring to. 240 00:24:15,860 --> 00:24:24,520 Yeah, I would want if you're going to redevelop this area, and I know there's also a plan 241 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,720 to redevelop a lot of Pulsing Park, I believe. 242 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:33,380 I would want this to be a chance to redesign the traffic management there because it seems 243 00:24:33,380 --> 00:24:37,980 like every intersection there is an accident waiting to happen, especially because the traffic 244 00:24:37,980 --> 00:24:43,660 to Cal Lake, whether that's the dock or the Jane Juniper, the traffic to those beaches 245 00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:45,180 is so high in the summer too. 246 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:52,080 So that is my one big concern about making sure that this is a chance to make sure that this 247 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:57,400 This is a safe area to walk through because right now I know like Pulse and Park is a place 248 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:04,100 people avoid as much as they can and that people are nervous to drive through, especially 249 00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:04,420 me. 250 00:25:05,740 --> 00:25:10,120 So as someone who frequents the business, this is there quite often and who would want 251 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:13,060 to drive around there and who would want to even take the bus around there. 252 00:25:14,140 --> 00:25:20,120 I would really want to see a safer option and a safer way to get around that wouldn't 253 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:23,260 be so nerve-racking, dry it around. 254 00:25:24,340 --> 00:25:28,640 And then my second one, and I really do like this point 255 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,000 with OCP is making non-market housing. 256 00:25:31,940 --> 00:25:35,300 So making sure that there are not just more 257 00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:38,220 extensive apartments, but making sure that there are places 258 00:25:38,220 --> 00:25:39,940 that young people like me can afford. 259 00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:42,680 So those are two of my greatest concerns. 260 00:25:42,980 --> 00:25:44,180 So I thank you for hearing them. 261 00:25:44,180 --> 00:25:51,920 I hope my Highway 6 illustration was sufficient. 262 00:25:54,450 --> 00:25:55,410 Thank you. 263 00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:57,910 Councilor Montenegro. 264 00:25:58,010 --> 00:25:59,530 You might have a question for you. 265 00:25:59,730 --> 00:26:00,710 Councilor Montenegro. 266 00:26:00,790 --> 00:26:05,330 So, not that we've ever asked before, but I'll ask you, what can you afford for an apartment? 267 00:26:05,530 --> 00:26:10,270 So, we have a general consensus here on what it would be for youth in this town. 268 00:26:11,030 --> 00:26:11,650 Good question. 269 00:26:11,650 --> 00:26:22,130 I'd say the ideal, honestly, for a one-bedroom would be 700 of those because that compared 270 00:26:22,130 --> 00:26:29,450 to, say, someone of my age who can get a job on a minimum wage or maybe just $5 more 271 00:26:29,450 --> 00:26:30,210 than minimum wage. 272 00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:38,930 I believe that's upwards of about 3,000 but right now most people are charging 1,500 or nearly 273 00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:44,790 early 2000 for one bedrooms or for even two bedrooms with two bed to bath. 274 00:26:45,370 --> 00:26:52,350 So ideally 700 would be a good goal to reach for this. 275 00:26:52,930 --> 00:26:57,270 That or maybe a thousand if it's a really nice apartment. 276 00:26:58,090 --> 00:26:59,610 You knew it probably would be. 277 00:26:59,730 --> 00:27:01,730 Yeah, okay, thank you. 278 00:27:03,060 --> 00:27:03,980 Thank you, Councilor. 279 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:06,980 Any other questions for the presenter? 280 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:15,700 Welcome. 281 00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:16,760 for 282 00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:42,460 short. Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Barry Dorvel. I live at 2402-26 283 00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:50,760 Street in Vernon and tonight I'm speaking in support of the via district proposal. I believe 284 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:57,300 this development moves Vernon in a direction that is broadly consistent with the vision aligned in our 285 00:27:57,300 --> 00:28:03,840 official community plan. It represents significant residential density within the urban core 286 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:11,900 where residents can live closer to services, employment, recreation and importantly public transit. 287 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:24,720 We know that concentrating growth in existing urban areas is more fiscally responsible and environmentally sustainable approach than expanding into the urban fringe. 288 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,580 I also appreciate this project's mixed-use design. 289 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:39,080 developments that combine housing with commercial uses help create neighborhoods where 290 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:46,880 more daily needs can be met without relying on a vehicle for every trip. I'm also encouraged 291 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:54,980 by the proximity to Poulson Park and the Vernon Creek corridor. I really hope that when 292 00:28:54,980 --> 00:29:01,060 this project proceeds, and I hope that it does, that it becomes an example of how development 293 00:29:01,060 --> 00:29:10,040 can coexist with and even enhance natural spaces, particularly wetland sites. 294 00:29:11,620 --> 00:29:16,780 Now all of those things said, I do have two concerns, and thanks for setting it up, Sierra, 295 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,300 they coincide with the previous speaker. 296 00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:27,060 Here. The first is transportation. Anyone who regularly drives through this area knows 297 00:29:27,060 --> 00:29:35,360 that significant congestion already exists around them all. And with, in the proposal, 298 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:43,940 it said 500 to 900 units are being proposed, with that increase in residential activity, not 299 00:29:43,940 --> 00:29:48,940 notwithstanding the fact that there is going to be significant efforts around providing 300 00:29:48,940 --> 00:29:55,900 alternate means of transportation, active transportation, and infrastructure for public 301 00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:59,760 transit. Traffic will still only get worse. 302 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,880 I really hope that council ensures that sufficient steps are taken to mitigate this inevitable problem. And to require that the developer contribute a fair share toward the new and improved road infrastructure that will be needed specifically to accommodate the increase in traffic that is being generated because of this project. We needed to fix this area 303 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:35,240 for a long time and city resources need to go towards doing so, but the fact that there 304 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:43,280 will be an increase in the challenges that exist seems to me that it requires the developer 305 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:49,280 to contribute a fair share towards the solution of that exacerbated problem. 306 00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:54,840 The second concern is around housing affordability. 307 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:03,640 Now, the proposal mentions that they're going to be looking for significant increases in the allowable building height. 308 00:31:04,180 --> 00:31:08,220 And again, I think that that's a wise thing. We need to build up, not out. 309 00:31:08,980 --> 00:31:17,440 And so that is broadly in alignment with the kind of growth that we need to prioritize in our community. 310 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:26,720 However, when we add density to land, we are adding additional development rights. 311 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:36,920 And it is a direct increase in the value of that land and the profits that can be made 312 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:37,260 from it. 313 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,280 And that's not a bad thing. 314 00:31:38,540 --> 00:31:39,440 Profits not a bad word. 315 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:49,220 But when additional development rights are granted, it is reasonable to ask whether the 316 00:31:49,220 --> 00:31:55,840 community should also receive additional public benefit in return. 317 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:08,180 So I would encourage Council to explore whether a reasonable percentage of the units be made 318 00:32:08,180 --> 00:32:16,160 affordable by the definitions that exist within the OCP or another meaningful housing 319 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:21,760 contribution around affordability and some other format could be incorporated into the project. 320 00:32:23,620 --> 00:32:29,440 So overall, I believe this proposal represents the kind of growth Vernon should be encouraging. 321 00:32:30,260 --> 00:32:37,580 If we want to reduce sprawl, make better use of existing infrastructure and take real tangible 322 00:32:37,580 --> 00:32:44,480 steps to implement our climate action plan, then projects like this deserve our support. 323 00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:51,980 My hope is simply that Council ensures that the development also addresses the transportation 324 00:32:51,980 --> 00:33:00,780 issues and some of the additional value created through increased development rights is returned to 325 00:33:00,780 --> 00:33:08,840 the community by supporting affordable housing through the zoning or permitting processes. 326 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,340 Thank you. 327 00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:16,880 Council, any questions for the presenter? 328 00:33:21,330 --> 00:33:22,750 Seeing none, thank you. 329 00:33:51,650 --> 00:33:55,330 Hi, my name is Jane Wexel, and I live at 3925 15th Avenue. 330 00:33:56,490 --> 00:34:01,550 I also would like to speak to the via district, and I do approve of it. 331 00:34:01,550 --> 00:34:05,970 When I moved to Vernon 38 years ago, I did my homework before I purchased a home. 332 00:34:06,450 --> 00:34:09,850 I researched what would make my home something that would appeal to buyers. 333 00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:13,610 And in the event that I wanted or needed to sell it sometime in the future, 334 00:34:14,370 --> 00:34:17,730 I had no idea if it would be my forever home at the time, 335 00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:21,050 but based on what I learned, 336 00:34:21,890 --> 00:34:25,110 and these items still apply to housing needs in Vernon today. 337 00:34:25,710 --> 00:34:27,630 I gave my realtor a list of needs. 338 00:34:27,630 --> 00:34:34,010 A short commute time to work, close to a grocery store, shopping, a bank, and a drug store. 339 00:34:35,110 --> 00:34:36,650 Walkability was a top priority. 340 00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:40,190 I enjoy walking around a neighborhood and into town to do chores. 341 00:34:40,870 --> 00:34:45,470 And I know many people that prioritize walking to stay in shape and be relaxed. 342 00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:48,810 I wanted to be near a park or a green space. 343 00:34:49,450 --> 00:34:53,550 The house had to be close to a transit route and I wanted nearby health care. 344 00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:57,370 My husband and I are still in that same small house and we love it. 345 00:34:58,190 --> 00:35:03,150 Our neighbors and neighborhood are great, but that being said, we both expect that we 346 00:35:03,150 --> 00:35:06,950 will have to downsize as yard work and maintenance will be more than we can handle in about 347 00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:07,830 five to ten years. 348 00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:12,830 We have discussed that if one of us were to die, we would like to be living in a space where 349 00:35:12,830 --> 00:35:15,290 one could manage on their own and would not have to move again. 350 00:35:16,450 --> 00:35:18,830 Having residents of all ages would be a big benefit. 351 00:35:19,690 --> 00:35:22,110 Families and younger residents energize a neighborhood. 352 00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:28,510 should we be unable to drive for medical reasons, transit is imperative. Our 353 00:35:28,510 --> 00:35:33,310 house borders the park and is close to walking trails. We are very grateful for 354 00:35:33,310 --> 00:35:38,470 those green spaces and we take advantages of them every day just like the kids in 355 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:42,450 the neighborhood did when they were young. It dawned on us that the via district 356 00:35:42,450 --> 00:35:47,290 would be a viable option. I worked at the Cal Tire office at the end of my 357 00:35:47,290 --> 00:35:53,230 working days, and I frequently access Poulson Park via the boardwalk during the lunch hour. 358 00:35:54,210 --> 00:36:00,090 Many of my coworkers of all ages took advantage of this walkable green space break in the 359 00:36:00,090 --> 00:36:00,310 day. 360 00:36:01,370 --> 00:36:04,350 What a wonderful perk for people living in this development. 361 00:36:05,710 --> 00:36:11,050 To finish off, I now prioritize a few more things than I did in my early twenties and thirties. 362 00:36:11,770 --> 00:36:14,290 As many things have changed, as Vernon has grown up. 363 00:36:14,290 --> 00:36:39,710 I now really prioritize water conservation, keeping taxes lower by building on existing sewer, water and roads as the via district will, ensuring the Vernon has a variety of housing types that are affordable for all its residents and workers, and that they can get around on public transit, even if they can afford a car, insurance and gas. 364 00:36:40,890 --> 00:36:45,470 I believe that the via district neighborhood will revitalize our downtown core. 365 00:36:46,510 --> 00:36:50,870 That has been a priority in our last three OCPs. 366 00:36:51,570 --> 00:36:53,790 And I would love to see that finally happen. 367 00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:58,610 I like that this proposal supports the transportation plan. 368 00:36:59,470 --> 00:37:05,310 It should help, rather than make our traffic congestion problems and air quality problems worse. 369 00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:09,470 First, I think this proposal will be a real benefit to Vernon. 370 00:37:10,430 --> 00:37:15,410 If it offers a mix of housing, which contains truly affordable housing options for 371 00:37:15,410 --> 00:37:18,510 Vernon residents, it will tick all the boxes for me. 372 00:37:19,230 --> 00:37:19,630 Thank you. 373 00:37:23,550 --> 00:37:25,430 Council, any questions for the presenter? 374 00:37:27,540 --> 00:37:28,780 Seeing none, thank you. 375 00:37:32,020 --> 00:37:32,180 Welcome. 376 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:32,800 Hello. 377 00:37:33,940 --> 00:37:35,280 My name is Kelly Westgate. 378 00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:38,600 I live at 8508 Clerk Road in Cold Stream, number 49. 379 00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:42,100 I also wanted to speak in support of the via district. 380 00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:46,020 I think this is the right development at the right time in the right place. 381 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:52,220 I did want to reiterate what some of the other speakers have said though about water concerns. 382 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,540 We're in a historic drought as we all know. Everything's dying. We're having a hard time 383 00:37:57,540 --> 00:38:04,740 with enough water for everybody that's already here. So just in any possible way, low flow toilets, 384 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,360 you know, any way that you can integrate anything within the design that can really take that into 385 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,800 consideration, and I would implore a council to look into things that may have previously 386 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:21,420 seen radical too because we are, you know, desperate times. So, but I think it's great. 387 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:27,960 I love what it's an improvement to the area. I'm a frequent biker on that trail. So, you 388 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:33,460 know, making sure there's good shade trees, you know, good canopy cover, and reducing that 389 00:38:33,460 --> 00:38:38,020 heat island, like you said, is great. So, yeah, overall, I'm very supportive, but just 390 00:38:38,020 --> 00:38:40,680 please keep water in mind. Thank you. 391 00:39:04,140 --> 00:39:06,900 Now is your chance? Same price. 392 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,180 I'll call for a second time. 393 00:39:45,210 --> 00:39:47,750 You need my name again, right? Yes, just a record. 394 00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:50,330 Right. Loretta Locke, L-O-C-K-E, 395 00:39:50,970 --> 00:39:53,370 401-08, Letherback Road, Vernon. 396 00:39:55,350 --> 00:39:59,290 Okay. Good evening, Mr. Mayor again. 397 00:40:00,730 --> 00:40:02,850 Council and engineering staff. 398 00:40:02,850 --> 00:40:10,230 My name is Loretta Locke and I'm stepping up for a second turn to demonstrate how the water savings lessons from the Viadistrict 399 00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:16,530 template can fix burn ins overall infrastructure vulnerabilities a 400 00:40:17,410 --> 00:40:21,130 Critical regulatory blind spot exists between our city departments 401 00:40:21,930 --> 00:40:26,830 While planners wrote brilliant environmental guidelines into OCP 6200 402 00:40:26,830 --> 00:40:31,410 zero, the engineering department is structurally handcuffed by subdivision 403 00:40:31,410 --> 00:40:37,090 servicing by a three schedule F. Schedule F legally forces 404 00:40:37,090 --> 00:40:41,930 developers to build rigid pipe and convey drainage systems that flush clean 405 00:40:41,930 --> 00:40:47,470 rain off site into storm sewers while our groundwater tables dry up completely 406 00:40:47,470 --> 00:40:54,370 overriding the original intent of our broader water conservation policies. We 407 00:40:54,370 --> 00:40:59,970 We must strengthen our regulatory frameworks as we look at item 3 on tonight's agenda regarding 408 00:40:59,970 --> 00:41:02,610 by last 6.0, 8.2. 409 00:41:02,970 --> 00:41:07,470 The city is appropriately attempting to refine its landscape and screening regulations. 410 00:41:07,970 --> 00:41:13,630 However, this text update focuses strictly on surface aesthetics and simplifying diagrams. 411 00:41:14,190 --> 00:41:15,750 I'm just going to help you out here. 412 00:41:15,970 --> 00:41:16,110 Yes. 413 00:41:16,830 --> 00:41:21,590 If this is focused on the via here on the right one, if you're going to wander into the next 414 00:41:21,590 --> 00:41:22,090 file log. 415 00:41:22,090 --> 00:41:22,710 Okay, sorry. 416 00:41:22,910 --> 00:41:24,570 I'll get you to hold that for the next pilot. 417 00:41:25,210 --> 00:41:25,990 We want to hear both. 418 00:41:26,450 --> 00:41:26,750 Okay. 419 00:41:27,010 --> 00:41:28,210 This is focused on via. 420 00:41:28,530 --> 00:41:28,670 Right. 421 00:41:29,150 --> 00:41:29,310 Okay. 422 00:41:31,810 --> 00:41:34,850 So you will get a second chance on the next pilot. 423 00:41:35,310 --> 00:41:35,590 Okay. 424 00:41:36,070 --> 00:41:36,490 It remains. 425 00:41:36,990 --> 00:41:42,810 The engineering department seems to be blind to our systemic water crisis. 426 00:41:44,310 --> 00:41:49,450 Updating zoning diagrams does nothing if our engineering rules continue to force developers 427 00:41:49,450 --> 00:41:51,250 to treat rain like a liability. 428 00:41:52,090 --> 00:41:55,810 Instead of only shifting to expensive reclaimed water systems, 429 00:41:56,030 --> 00:41:59,390 we must update stormwater drainage by law 5995 430 00:41:59,770 --> 00:42:04,030 and by law 38432 Mandate Rain Harvesting Design Citywide. 431 00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:07,150 We must increase pavement effectiveness 432 00:42:07,150 --> 00:42:10,110 by mandating permeable interlocking concrete pavers 433 00:42:10,110 --> 00:42:13,990 for modern pedestrian walkways, parking lots, and roundabouts. 434 00:42:14,730 --> 00:42:17,350 Sloping hardscapes into deeply recessed sunken 435 00:42:17,350 --> 00:42:21,910 bioretension basins turn pavement into a collection apron. 436 00:42:23,630 --> 00:42:30,030 This approach is substantially cheaper eliminating costly subterranean store mains and saving 437 00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:32,050 public capital right from the start. 438 00:42:32,970 --> 00:42:38,370 This deep-root hydration recharges our water table, directly targeting the chronic groundwater 439 00:42:38,370 --> 00:42:40,430 starvation causing canopy distress. 440 00:42:40,670 --> 00:42:41,830 I'm going to interrupt you. 441 00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:44,790 This is regarding the Viya as well. 442 00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:45,010 Okay. 443 00:42:45,390 --> 00:42:45,550 Yes? 444 00:42:45,550 --> 00:42:46,390 Absolutely. 445 00:42:46,490 --> 00:42:48,550 I would appreciate if it was later in the agenda. 446 00:42:49,090 --> 00:42:49,550 Absolutely. 447 00:42:50,190 --> 00:42:50,210 Yeah. 448 00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:50,990 So, 449 00:42:53,550 --> 00:42:53,630 okay. 450 00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:58,270 The chronic groundwater starvation cause and canopy distress across historic areas like 451 00:42:58,270 --> 00:42:58,770 East Hill. 452 00:42:58,850 --> 00:43:04,170 It lowers summer pavement temperatures by up to 25 degrees and maximizes city-wide 453 00:43:04,170 --> 00:43:04,950 water savings. 454 00:43:06,330 --> 00:43:11,710 So I reiterate my request for a formal 50-minute delegation spot on the September 8th Council 455 00:43:11,710 --> 00:43:17,030 session agenda to deliver a comprehensive technical briefing to update our engineering 456 00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:22,630 specifications for all future developments, residential lots, public roundabouts, and 457 00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:24,170 the Greater Cultural Center Plaza. 458 00:43:24,830 --> 00:43:33,570 And this is a huge chance for us via district is a huge, huge chance for us now to really begin 459 00:43:33,570 --> 00:43:33,950 with that. 460 00:43:35,250 --> 00:43:36,030 Okay. 461 00:43:36,410 --> 00:43:36,850 Thank you. 462 00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:51,360 So I'll call for a third and a final time. 463 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,440 Seeing no one approaching, I will close this public hearing. 464 00:44:01,780 --> 00:44:03,040 Thank you for your input. 465 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:12,500 So as you heard earlier, we're going to go through this two more times on two other bylaws 466 00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:17,680 and then we'll meet as a council and make a decision about each of these three items. 467 00:44:21,540 --> 00:44:23,680 And you're welcome to stay and watch us make a decision. 468 00:45:12,140 --> 00:45:32,780 All right, I'll move to our second public hearing tonight. I'll call this public hearing to order for by law 6082, 2026, which is a zoning text for landscape regulation updates amendment. This would, can you provide the publication information? 469 00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:35,730 Sure. 470 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,960 This public hearing is convened, presumed to the local government act in order to consider the following. 471 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:52,440 Zoning Text Landscape Regulation Updates Amendment By-law 6082 of 2026. 472 00:45:53,160 --> 00:46:01,140 By-law 6082 to update Section 6, Landscape and Screening Regulations of Zoning By-law 6,000 473 00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:08,580 as part of Phase 2, Refine, Implement, Implementation to Simplify By-law Requirements and 474 00:46:08,580 --> 00:46:10,400 Clarify Diagrams. 475 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,940 All submissions received by the deadline have been posted to the city's website for 476 00:46:14,940 --> 00:46:19,820 viewing and are available on the media table at the back of the room in an information 477 00:46:19,820 --> 00:46:20,320 binder. 478 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,800 Any late submissions will be noted by the corporate officer, administration will be asked 479 00:46:26,180 --> 00:46:27,840 to present the application. 480 00:46:28,620 --> 00:46:32,000 At this public hearing any person present who believes that their interest in property 481 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,600 is affected by the proposed bylaw should be given a reasonable opportunity to be heard 482 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,320 of the matters contained in the proposed by-law under consideration. 483 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,920 All speakers please keep your presentation as concise and on topic as possible. 484 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:51,780 My responsibility as chair is to ensure that all comments relate to the matters in the 485 00:46:51,780 --> 00:46:52,800 proposed by-law. 486 00:46:53,460 --> 00:46:58,000 Those of you who wish to speak, concerning the proposed by-law should approach the podium 487 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:03,000 and convince your presentation to counsel by slowly and clearly stating your name and address 488 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,700 as well please print your name on the speakers list at the podium so we may 489 00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:11,420 record it accurately in the minutes. Then you may proceed with your 490 00:47:11,420 --> 00:47:16,360 presentation. This hearing is being line-strained and video recorded and may be 491 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:21,120 accessed on the City of the website. Members of Council may ask questions of 492 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,860 you following your presentation. However the function of council members is to 493 00:47:25,860 --> 00:47:29,700 listen to the views of the public. It is not the function of council, this public 494 00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:33,500 hearing to debate the merits of these issues with individual citizens. 495 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:38,940 Once this public hearing is closed, council cannot receive any further input. 496 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,260 During the hearing we ask that everyone be respectful of different viewpoints and refrain 497 00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:47,460 from applause or other expressions of approval or disapproval. 498 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:53,580 At the conclusion of the public hearing session, council will reconvene the regular open meeting 499 00:47:53,580 --> 00:47:58,640 in order to consider third reading of the subject bylaws and you are all welcome to remain 500 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,980 in the ten minutes. Thank you. 501 00:48:06,940 --> 00:48:09,740 Ms. Wood, can you provide the publication information? 502 00:48:10,580 --> 00:48:15,100 Your worship, it was included in the July 9th and July 16th editions of the Morningstar. 503 00:48:16,220 --> 00:48:21,720 Thank you. Ms. Wiltsie, please provide counsel and the public as an overview of the zoning text, 504 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:27,200 landscape regulation updates, amendment viola 6082 of 2026. 505 00:48:30,260 --> 00:48:30,960 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 506 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,440 This presentation will provide a brief overview of the proposed amendments to Section 6, 507 00:48:36,820 --> 00:48:45,260 Landscape and Screening of Zoning Bylaw 6000. Zoning Bylaw 6000 was adopted on June 24th, 2024, 508 00:48:45,980 --> 00:48:52,400 to repeal and replace the previous Zoning Bylaw 5000. The purpose of this replacement was to align 509 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,540 with new requirements from the province, related to small-scale multi-unit housing and transit-oriented 510 00:48:57,540 --> 00:49:02,700 development. To meet the deadline set by the province for the adoption of the new zoning 511 00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:09,140 by-law, a three-phase approach was initiated, comprised of phase one design, including the 512 00:49:09,140 --> 00:49:15,100 creation of by-law 6,000. Phase two refined, including updates to sections not covered 513 00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:20,880 by provincial legislation, such as section six, which is seen before you today. And phase three 514 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,060 align, including aligning the new by-law with the official community plan, transportation plan, 515 00:49:26,060 --> 00:49:30,940 and housing needs report to support the city's long-term growth and development estimated 516 00:49:30,940 --> 00:49:39,140 for early 2027. The intention of these updates to Section 6 are to streamline and clarify regulations. 517 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:45,020 Specifically, administration is driving to simplify requirements to improve civic communication. 518 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:51,380 Incorporate fire risk mitigation standards to enhance community resilience and improve alignment 519 00:49:51,380 --> 00:49:52,880 with the new official community plan. 520 00:49:55,620 --> 00:49:59,180 Actions taken to meet the subjective include defining key terms, 521 00:49:59,620 --> 00:50:00,920 such as soft landscaping, 522 00:50:01,340 --> 00:50:02,980 to improve clarity and interpretation. 523 00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:06,060 Clarifying irrigation requirements, 524 00:50:06,620 --> 00:50:09,520 including the areas of existing undisturbed vegetation, 525 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,900 landscape areas specifically designed is zero-scape, 526 00:50:13,180 --> 00:50:14,780 a low water use landscaping method, 527 00:50:15,660 --> 00:50:17,260 and landscape areas with established, 528 00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:20,780 drought tolerant vegetation do not require permanent irrigation. 529 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:38,680 Streamlining maintenance criteria is many maintenance requirements previously included are covered under other bylaws, such as the Good Neighbor Bylaw, and refining key diagrams, including those for wildlife, considerate fences, and an example landscape buffer to improve consistency and interpretation. 530 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:52,020 Another key change is the incorporation of fire risk mitigation standards, including requirements for the immediate, intermediate, and extended zones, based on FireSmart BC principles. 531 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,600 These include restricting new combustible mulch, 532 00:50:56,020 --> 00:50:58,720 conifer shrubs, and trees within the immediate zone, 533 00:50:59,420 --> 00:51:01,840 restricting new conifer shrubs or coniferous trees 534 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,300 within 10 meters of a building, 535 00:51:03,820 --> 00:51:06,520 unless specific criteria is met within the intermediate zone, 536 00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:09,680 and establishing a minimum spacing of three meters 537 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,200 between new coniferous trees within the extended zone. 538 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,260 Feedback has been received from the Ministry of Transportation 539 00:51:17,260 --> 00:51:19,980 and Transit, requesting a broad compliance statement 540 00:51:19,980 --> 00:51:22,600 to ensure requirements do not conflict with or undermine 541 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:28,580 provincial legislative requirements. As a result, the following text indicated in red is proposed 542 00:51:28,580 --> 00:51:36,780 for addition to Section 6.1.1 to accommodate this request. In summary, the updates to Section 6 543 00:51:36,780 --> 00:51:41,640 align with key priorities of the recently adopted official community plan, including the creation 544 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,920 of a vibrant, safe, and inclusive neighborhoods that are pedestrian friendly, sustainable, and 545 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:52,580 resilient for future generations. Specifically, a strong alignment has been identified with a 546 00:51:52,580 --> 00:52:02,440 Objective 4.2.5, which seeks to enhance the community tree canopy and recognize the importance of sustainable planting alternatives, where tree planting is not feasible due to site constraints. 547 00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:09,380 Action 5A, which identifies an update to the landscape regulations in the zoning bylaw, is a priority. 548 00:52:09,980 --> 00:52:16,720 An objective 4.6.2, which seeks to reduce the risks of persons and property from major hazards, including wildfires. 549 00:52:18,380 --> 00:52:18,880 Thank you. 550 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,900 Council, any questions from Ms. Wolsey? 551 00:52:28,430 --> 00:52:28,910 Seeing none, 552 00:52:31,140 --> 00:52:33,740 Ms. Wood, have we received any written 553 00:52:33,740 --> 00:52:36,300 submissions that were not included in the public agenda? 554 00:52:37,420 --> 00:52:39,440 Your worship, there are no additional submissions. 555 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,380 All right. I'll call for a first time for representation of the public attendance who would 556 00:52:45,380 --> 00:52:46,940 like to speak to this application. 557 00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:54,580 I will call for a second time. 558 00:53:00,380 --> 00:53:01,680 I will call for a third 559 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:07,240 in final time for the public in attendance who would like to speak to this application. 560 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:15,970 Seeing none, I declare this public hearing closed. 561 00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:22,830 We'll move now to public hearing number three. 562 00:53:26,170 --> 00:53:28,210 I will call this public hearing to order. 563 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:36,060 This public hearing is convened pursuant to the local government act in order to considering 564 00:53:36,060 --> 00:53:36,920 the following. 565 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:45,080 Zoning text, various text amendments, and amendment bylaw 6083 of 2026. 566 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:52,260 Bylaw 6083 is to update various sections of zoning bylaw 6,000, pertaining to projections 567 00:53:52,260 --> 00:53:59,140 in the yard, slopes, grades, purpose, access, and airport land uses as part of Phase 2, 568 00:53:59,460 --> 00:54:01,000 refine implementation. 569 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:11,700 All submissions received by the deadline have been posted on the city's website for viewing and are available on the media table at the back of the room and an information binder. 570 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:21,380 Any late submissions will be noted by the corporate officer, administration will be asked to present the application. 571 00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:25,960 Roger is still there in the back corner. 572 00:54:26,860 --> 00:54:28,840 So that's where the media table is. 573 00:54:29,340 --> 00:54:31,560 You're doing well Roger. It's been a long day. 574 00:54:32,260 --> 00:54:38,460 At this public hearing, any person present who believes that their interest in property 575 00:54:38,460 --> 00:54:43,060 is affected by the proposed by-law should be given a reasonable opportunity to be heard 576 00:54:43,060 --> 00:54:46,040 on the matters contained in the proposed by-law and the consideration. 577 00:54:46,660 --> 00:54:52,080 All speakers please keep a presentation as concise on topics possible, my responsibility as 578 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,240 chairs to ensure that all comments relate to the matters of the proposed by-law. 579 00:54:57,020 --> 00:55:01,860 Those of you who wish to speak concerning the proposed by-law should approach the podium 580 00:55:01,860 --> 00:55:06,360 on my left on your right and commence your presentation to council by 581 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,420 slowly and clearly stating your name and address. 582 00:55:08,860 --> 00:55:12,640 As well please print your name on the speakers list of the podium so we may 583 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,400 record it accurately in the minutes. 584 00:55:14,820 --> 00:55:16,840 Then you may proceed with your presentation. 585 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:22,380 This hearing is being live streamed and video recorded and may be accessed on the city's 586 00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:22,840 website. 587 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,740 Members of Council may ask questions of view following your presentation. 588 00:55:28,220 --> 00:55:31,680 However, the function of council members is to listen to the views of the public 589 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:38,120 and is not the function of council at this public hearing to debate the merits of these issues with individual citizens. 590 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:43,080 Once this public hearing is closed, council cannot receive any further input. 591 00:55:43,940 --> 00:55:47,140 Here in the hearing, we ask people to respectfully differ in viewpoints 592 00:55:47,140 --> 00:55:51,780 and refrain from applause or other expressions of approval or disapproval. 593 00:55:51,780 --> 00:56:01,400 As the concludes the public hearing, Council will reconvene the regular open meeting in order to consider the third reading of the subject bylaws, and you are welcome to remain in attendance. 594 00:56:08,310 --> 00:56:12,410 Miss Wood, can you provide the publication information, please? 595 00:56:14,130 --> 00:56:19,590 Worship, it was included in the July 9th and 16th editions of the Morning Star. 596 00:56:20,250 --> 00:56:27,190 Thank you. Mr. Bridewreck, could you provide Council in the public with an overview of the zoning texts? 597 00:56:28,070 --> 00:56:32,810 various amendments by law 6-0-8-3 of 2026. 598 00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:36,390 Thank you, Your Worship. Yes, and could even counsel. 599 00:56:36,990 --> 00:56:44,310 Just to a brief presentation, Ms. Wiltsy's overview of her by-law has a similar framework to this by-law. 600 00:56:44,550 --> 00:56:52,370 It's a technical implementation zoning by-law to help bring the zoning more in line with the community plan 601 00:56:52,370 --> 00:56:56,890 and also to an effort to reduce unwarranted variances. 602 00:56:58,790 --> 00:57:02,490 So this by-law has a range of amendments 603 00:57:02,490 --> 00:57:06,070 and it's specifically to deal with projections into yards 604 00:57:06,070 --> 00:57:09,810 which are allowed in the zoning by-law development 605 00:57:09,810 --> 00:57:14,590 management of slopes, regulations laid to driveway grades, 606 00:57:15,570 --> 00:57:17,530 purpose statements of each by-law, 607 00:57:17,530 --> 00:57:23,210 the district zone access and airport-related land uses. 608 00:57:24,250 --> 00:57:28,370 And the attempts is just simply to fine-tune the existing zoning 609 00:57:28,370 --> 00:57:36,110 by-law in light of our major OCP review and to help reduce the amount of variances required. 610 00:57:37,610 --> 00:57:41,990 So specifically, the projections into the yards is to basically align this into 611 00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:51,270 more of a construction standard going to 0.6 meters and the second one is a slope. 612 00:57:51,610 --> 00:57:58,910 Variance is eliminating in the by-law right now. It's a hard regulation, no 613 00:57:58,910 --> 00:58:04,390 developments over on slopes over 30 percent. With the new community plan we have 614 00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:08,450 has much more prominent role in development management on the hillsides. Those 615 00:58:08,450 --> 00:58:13,510 developments have to go through development permits and through the geotach studies and 616 00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:19,250 hillside studies that regulation isn't felt to be needed in the zoning anymore and it also 617 00:58:19,250 --> 00:58:26,970 helps reduce the amount of variances. Grades was expected, driveway grades basically the subdued 618 00:58:26,970 --> 00:58:34,910 written service and viola deals with the details of driveway grades once we get to a subdivision 619 00:58:34,910 --> 00:58:40,030 or a development project and we don't want to conflicting regulations in the bylaws. 620 00:58:40,870 --> 00:59:03,130 The purpose statements right now the bylaw has a number section in each purpose and there's been instances where we felt we needed to come to council or to the delegate with a variance for the purpose that was just an arduous variance that was really the purpose statement is just a description of the zone as opposed to a regulation. 621 00:59:05,210 --> 00:59:10,710 access right now the zoning by-law speaks to number of accesses whereas the 622 00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:15,010 subversion servicing by-law again is a more technical document and it should be 623 00:59:15,010 --> 00:59:19,890 in there and not in the by-law and try to eliminate redundancies and conflicts 624 00:59:20,530 --> 00:59:27,110 and the last one was to do with the airport the burning regional airport has 625 00:59:27,110 --> 00:59:33,110 always had a principal driving land use of airport related uses and there 626 00:59:33,110 --> 00:59:41,330 There is a provision and this is light industrial which could open up the airport asset to non-airport 627 00:59:41,330 --> 00:59:42,050 related uses. 628 00:59:42,310 --> 00:59:46,870 So that was thought to be added into this by law amendments. 629 00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:55,310 And the recommendation is to carry on as we are to a public hearing and it will have 630 00:59:55,310 --> 00:59:56,950 to re-review it and sign by the Ministry. 631 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,980 Thanks, basically, the whole city. That's an overview. Thank you, Mr. Roderick. Yes, that's fine. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Greg, can you back to grades for a second? Sorry, slopes. So we're taking out the no construction of a building structure or swimming pool on any slope of 30% or greater. We're taking that out. 632 01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:39,600 Yeah, that's correct. There's a schedule in here. This goes into the current and proposed wording. 633 01:00:40,660 --> 01:00:46,000 I just find it. So section 4 currently says no building. No construction or building structure is 634 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:52,300 swimming pool is permitted on a slow gradient from percent. That's a full deletion. So then if someone comes 635 01:00:52,300 --> 01:00:58,640 in with an application for a swimming pool on a 40% slope, what happens? They would have to go 636 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,860 through the building inspectors would flag it and they'd say you need a development permit 637 01:01:02,860 --> 01:01:03,260 for this. 638 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:03,500 Okay. 639 01:01:03,860 --> 01:01:08,140 We would require a geotext study, instructional, and all the supporting documentation. 640 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:18,280 So is that going to be obvious in the bylaw to somebody developing, like I know we've had 641 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:23,280 a lot of these, right, as we've turned like this, this was a bit of a frustration. 642 01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:30,060 So thanks for doing this, this is great, but is it going to be clear in the bylaw that 643 01:01:30,060 --> 01:01:36,920 But that triggers a DP, like where will that information be found? 644 01:01:37,180 --> 01:01:41,800 Yeah, if I could your ship through the Council requiring it's, it won't be in the zoning 645 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:47,920 by-law through the development review process, whether it's a pre-application or a sit-down 646 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,960 with the building official or one of the platters, that's the time it'll be flagged so you're 647 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:58,240 going to need a development permit for this for whatever reason, the hillside, fire, flooding, 648 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:10,800 So it will be flagged at hopefully a pre-application meeting if there isn't one, it will be at the building primary stage and there could be some rounding back to a development permit. 649 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,820 Until the development community and the builders get to know us what the changes. 650 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:22,280 So I don't like that because... 651 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:37,000 Just before we get into that, this is what questions about questions. Oh, we get lots of chance later to have. Yeah, I think there's a work around so we'll do that. I should know this after 15 years, but you'll tell me what. Thank you. 652 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:46,000 This is about questions clearly and you did really well up until that point and then you must have been more than a 30 degree slope because you stepped off into the hole. 653 01:02:48,340 --> 01:02:53,140 That's right. I think that's what you call a 90 percent slope. 654 01:02:56,140 --> 01:02:57,280 Council, any other questions 655 01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:04,940 for Mr. Broderick? Seeing none, Ms. Wood, have we received any written submissions that 656 01:03:04,940 --> 01:03:08,680 were not included in the public agenda? No, we haven't, you were, sir. 657 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,660 Okay, I'll call for a first time, for a person from the public intends that he would like 658 01:03:14,660 --> 01:03:16,080 to speak to this application. 659 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,460 I will call for a second time. 660 01:03:26,990 --> 01:03:28,030 I will call for a third 661 01:03:28,030 --> 01:03:29,050 and final time, 662 01:03:33,060 --> 01:03:34,580 seeing that there's no one approaching. 663 01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:39,280 I declare this public hearing 664 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:47,940 officially closed. Council, we'll now return to the regular agenda, 665 01:03:49,580 --> 01:03:51,440 which we recessed early. 666 01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:08,550 We'll reconvene the meeting. This is for by-laws for third reading. 667 01:04:08,550 --> 01:04:15,350 the Official Community Plan, Foulson Village Center Amendment by Law 6080 of 2026. Can I have 668 01:04:15,350 --> 01:04:23,470 a motion, please? A move, Councillor, acquiring, Councillor Mund. Can I have staff provide information 669 01:04:23,470 --> 01:04:35,490 about what is now allowed within this village designation in the OCP? Mr. Miles, this is not zoning. 670 01:04:35,490 --> 01:04:44,330 This is this is village OCP, so it'd be helpful for the gallery and maybe even council to understand the difference. 671 01:04:44,990 --> 01:04:46,270 Certainly, thank you, worship. 672 01:04:47,190 --> 01:05:00,870 Yes, with this at the OCP level, what this amendment effectively does is it's similar to what we designated the other village centers with a few added policies. 673 01:05:00,870 --> 01:05:11,570 So that with this would bring a little bit of additional commercial intensity as well as policies to support the additional height. 674 01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:27,230 So it's quite similar to the other village centers with a few added policies specifically for the development to accommodate the future zoning changes potentially. 675 01:05:27,230 --> 01:05:28,190 So 676 01:05:30,210 --> 01:05:34,790 if I can continue with the conversation, then the issue that's been raised is about 677 01:05:34,790 --> 01:05:36,910 building height or stories. 678 01:05:37,550 --> 01:05:40,850 What will be permitted given this OCP at this stage? 679 01:05:42,130 --> 01:05:48,830 So how it sits now there is policy that is, the policy is worded to consider heights greater 680 01:05:48,830 --> 01:05:50,390 than 16 stories. 681 01:05:51,170 --> 01:05:57,410 So right now currently the max is still 16 stories and are zoning by law. 682 01:05:57,410 --> 01:06:08,710 So what the policy does is allow for potential future amendments to consider that extra height based on some public benefit 683 01:06:08,710 --> 01:06:09,290 and amenities. 684 01:06:10,390 --> 01:06:17,730 So with the next stages, there would still be some sort of planning tool that would be required whether it's a site-specific 685 01:06:17,730 --> 01:06:24,810 text amendment or variance or zoning change to allow for that additional height anywhere above 16 stores. 686 01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:29,490 So that would return to council at some future date. 687 01:06:30,450 --> 01:06:31,750 Yes, that's correct. 688 01:06:35,110 --> 01:06:35,650 Thank you. 689 01:06:37,090 --> 01:06:41,710 Council, any other questions to Mr. Miles? 690 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,460 Seeing none, I'll call the question all in favor. 691 01:06:48,660 --> 01:06:51,960 Those opposed? Seeing none, motion is carried. 692 01:06:53,020 --> 01:06:58,160 We'll move now to zoning text landscape regulation updates by law 6082 693 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,480 two of 2026, if I get the wrong one, 694 01:07:05,540 --> 01:07:06,220 absolutely. 695 01:07:07,820 --> 01:07:11,080 Ms. Wood, I'd like to know who's in charge sometimes. 696 01:07:11,740 --> 01:07:12,060 Ms. Wood. 697 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,980 Your worship, in regards to this file, 698 01:07:16,220 --> 01:07:20,600 there has to be an amendment made at second reading prior 699 01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,440 to third due to the request from MOTT 700 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:30,640 to add that red statement within the presentation. 701 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:39,580 So I've created a motion here of Council is comfortable with it that would add the wording of the less superseded by a applicable provincial legislation. 702 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,600 So that would have to be done first. 703 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,400 Seconded, Council is acquiring. 704 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,880 So we're going to move the first motion first and then this motion second. 705 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:52,280 All in favor? 706 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,980 Those opposed? Motion carried. 707 01:07:54,980 --> 01:08:00,560 Now, a motion for the text amendments. 708 01:08:02,420 --> 01:08:03,740 Councilor Guy, Councilor Chair, 709 01:08:06,380 --> 01:08:07,400 any comments? 710 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,280 Seeing none, call the question, all those in favor of those. 711 01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:18,480 Post motion is carried to imagine a text amendment if we hadn't been going for ten and a half 712 01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:18,700 hour. 713 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:20,660 We might really have a debate. 714 01:08:20,660 --> 01:08:29,290 We'll move to the next item, zoning text, various text amendments, amendment by law 6083 of 715 01:08:29,290 --> 01:08:31,790 2026, Councillor Gareth. 716 01:08:33,130 --> 01:08:34,170 Councillor Guy, 717 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,180 any comments? 718 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:40,480 Go ahead, Councillor Quarring. 719 01:08:42,990 --> 01:08:48,010 Oh yeah, I cut you off when you were driving off for the 30% slope. 720 01:08:48,770 --> 01:08:49,250 Go ahead, Councillor. 721 01:08:49,530 --> 01:08:52,030 I'm still not used to getting cut off. 722 01:08:53,190 --> 01:08:54,530 So eight years. 723 01:08:54,530 --> 01:08:59,070 Is there a way 724 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:15,920 we can insert into this that something in excess of 30% triggers the requirement 725 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,440 for a development permit? 726 01:09:17,820 --> 01:09:30,560 Just to avoid the poor person that is coming in for building permit and hasn't done a 727 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:39,260 So I like that's that's what I'm trying to avoid. I mean, Mr. Broderick, you've been around this a few times. 728 01:09:39,860 --> 01:09:48,900 Yeah, thank you, your ship. It counts requiring it. Going by that typically doesn't round back to OCP regulations. 729 01:09:49,420 --> 01:09:56,560 It's that there is the regulation for a development permit for hillside, you know, one to 30% slope. 730 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,340 or a certain trigger to do a development permit. 731 01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:04,940 It is on the onus of an applicant to get familiar 732 01:10:04,940 --> 01:10:08,660 with the different planning documents to open 733 01:10:08,660 --> 01:10:12,100 to debate to have a section in the zoning by-law 734 01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:14,620 to say a development permit is required. 735 01:10:14,860 --> 01:10:17,460 I generally, it's not a good practice to do that, I would say. 736 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:22,280 But that's my feeling on it. 737 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:23,000 Well, you could. 738 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:23,520 Yeah. 739 01:10:24,180 --> 01:10:25,060 What about requiring? 740 01:10:25,060 --> 01:10:25,140 All right. 741 01:10:25,980 --> 01:10:27,020 Thank you, Ms. Mayor. 742 01:10:28,420 --> 01:10:34,940 What about, like aren't there requirements when you're on the lakefront? 743 01:10:35,620 --> 01:10:44,300 When you're within a riparian area, regulation 30 meter, you require a DP. 744 01:10:45,380 --> 01:10:48,580 Where's that found in the, is that in the OCP? 745 01:10:48,580 --> 01:10:54,940 Yeah, so that would be in the community plan in the designation of the waterfront, the 746 01:10:54,940 --> 01:11:00,560 aquatic development permit areas, and if you're in an provincial statute, if you're building 747 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:06,480 within 30 meters, you need to evaluate your streamside protection enhancement area and 748 01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:07,580 go through that development permit. 749 01:11:08,860 --> 01:11:16,580 I mean, I'm okay with like, I just wanted to see what I said, but I'm okay, I'm not going 750 01:11:16,580 --> 01:11:24,540 have fallen my sword on this. You're absolutely correct. It's up to the applicant to get themselves acquainted with what they're trying to develop. So I'm good. 751 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:28,000 Mr. Barton. 752 01:11:29,340 --> 01:11:30,080 Thank you, Mr. Barton. 753 01:11:30,700 --> 01:11:44,360 From a planning department perspective, public education and certainly applicant knowledge is one of our key objectives to ensure that a property owner has all or the best information possible. 754 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,580 So you can imagine the planning world, it's a lot. 755 01:11:46,940 --> 01:11:47,280 It's a lot. 756 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:51,260 We talk about this almost every week, how to be able to get the right process out, the 757 01:11:51,260 --> 01:11:52,400 right information out. 758 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:57,460 And so a tool that we've been, that other municipalities use, and we've been slowly 759 01:11:57,460 --> 01:11:59,620 bringing it on here is information bulletins. 760 01:12:00,060 --> 01:12:06,940 Again, it's not necessarily a one-size-fits-all, but certainly as much public education as we can 761 01:12:06,940 --> 01:12:12,540 get out there, that if we wanted to do a public notice on how to apply for a pool permit. 762 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:19,520 Right, it would be a one page or a two page quick little, quick little snapshot. 763 01:12:19,940 --> 01:12:23,100 We've done up about 10 or 15 of these on any number of planning topics. 764 01:12:23,660 --> 01:12:25,840 We try and have a paper copy at our front window. 765 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,940 We also try and publish a PDF online. 766 01:12:28,980 --> 01:12:34,280 There's no reason why a topic like that as to how to install a pool in a hillside area 767 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:38,320 couldn't have a bit of a bulletin. 768 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,480 And then to be, as we're updating the website, 769 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,140 one of the key things is then to introduce AI, 770 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,660 where if a person starts to type in the key words 771 01:12:47,130 --> 01:12:49,460 that is directly linked to this bulletin. 772 01:12:49,780 --> 01:12:50,980 So we have some work to do, 773 01:12:51,180 --> 01:12:53,120 but I would suggest that any number of planning topics 774 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:53,880 are complex. 775 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,800 Our objective is very consistent with what you said, 776 01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:59,060 of trying to get the right information, 777 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:00,120 the right process out. 778 01:13:00,500 --> 01:13:04,540 The number one objective is to have an applicant make, 779 01:13:04,540 --> 01:13:11,200 make a full application from day one is the easiest part for us to be able to administer 780 01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:15,800 and when they don't submit the right information or we have to backtrack it's not only a pain 781 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,900 for a council complaint it's a pain for us to be able to administer that as well we don't 782 01:13:19,900 --> 01:13:24,260 like it either and so to be able to get that information out is important so that's yet another 783 01:13:24,260 --> 01:13:29,420 tool and certainly we could try and create like an information bulletin on the specific topic. 784 01:13:33,730 --> 01:13:43,010 I think all the major developers of the five or six major hillside are a lot easier 785 01:13:43,010 --> 01:13:43,630 to contact. 786 01:13:44,130 --> 01:13:49,930 We're in touch with them almost every week, and so the major players I think are quite 787 01:13:49,930 --> 01:13:52,990 easy to be able to let them know as to what the process is, and we can do that. 788 01:13:53,390 --> 01:13:57,770 It's more, I think, the issue is regarding a property unit that, as you say, wouldn't 789 01:13:57,770 --> 01:14:01,750 of otherwise knowing that there is a DP to be able to do something small like a building 790 01:14:01,750 --> 01:14:05,270 addition or a pool that would normally just require a building permit. 791 01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:08,150 So I think that's the bigger issue than the major developers. 792 01:14:11,140 --> 01:14:15,860 Just to follow that up, I think a really good point what you're making is an information 793 01:14:15,860 --> 01:14:21,920 bold and it says, if you're doing anything on slope greater than 30%, here's what falls 794 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:22,320 out. 795 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:28,520 just so that they would immediately go, oh, okay, I'm in a different whole 796 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:29,560 kettle of fish here. 797 01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:34,150 All right, we've heard from Council 798 01:14:34,150 --> 01:14:39,150 requiring much appreciated. I just wanted to put them in the right box. It's kind of 799 01:14:39,150 --> 01:14:41,290 a comfortable thing as mayor eight years on. 800 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,920 Council, any more comments? Seeing none, 801 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,840 I'll call the question all those in favor? Those opposed? Seeing none? Motion is 802 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:52,380 It's carried, 803 01:14:55,670 --> 01:14:56,450 meaning closed. 804 01:15:00,050 --> 01:15:06,390 I may agree to approve one. Your kind. You can't the honest thing, this is