1 00:00:01,700 --> 00:00:02,760 Councilmember Cox. 2 00:00:05,770 --> 00:00:06,830 Councilmember Gomez. 3 00:00:08,890 --> 00:00:12,310 See us here. She just stepped out for a second. Councilmember Jones. 4 00:00:17,790 --> 00:00:18,870 Councilmember Jones. 5 00:00:22,350 --> 00:00:26,210 Here. Mayor Pro Temmeramirez. 6 00:00:29,060 --> 00:00:31,040 Here. Mayor Garcia. 7 00:00:34,190 --> 00:00:34,550 Here. 8 00:00:38,770 --> 00:00:39,310 Okay, Mary. 9 00:00:42,030 --> 00:00:46,690 Okay. At this time we will have post-session announcements by our city attorney face. 10 00:00:47,330 --> 00:00:52,190 Thank you, Mayor Garcia. We had four items on the agenda this evening for a closed session. 11 00:00:52,870 --> 00:00:57,130 Two of which were existing litigation and two of which were anticipated litigation. 12 00:00:57,770 --> 00:01:03,010 First item was existing litigation pursuant to government code 54956.9D1. 13 00:01:03,370 --> 00:01:06,930 The parties to that litigation and the case number are set forth on the agenda. 14 00:01:07,630 --> 00:01:14,010 The other existing litigation was item D pursuant to government code 54956.9D1. 15 00:01:14,010 --> 00:01:18,470 and again the case name and case number is on the agenda. 16 00:01:19,030 --> 00:01:30,670 We had to anticipate the litigations pursuant to government code 54956.9D4 and 54956.9D2 17 00:01:30,670 --> 00:01:34,130 and the information relating to those are also set both on the agenda. 18 00:01:34,630 --> 00:01:39,250 We did not get to item D and there was no pressing need at this time that can be carried 19 00:01:39,250 --> 00:01:40,750 over to the next meeting. 20 00:01:40,750 --> 00:01:48,650 There is no reportable action with respect to items A, B, or C, the two anticipated litigation items and the existing litigation items. 21 00:01:48,850 --> 00:01:50,230 No reportable action at this time. 22 00:01:53,490 --> 00:01:54,670 Thank you very much. 23 00:01:55,110 --> 00:01:59,810 The implementation will be by Pastor Dane Davis, that Impact Risk Center. 24 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,900 Thank you, Pastor Dane. 25 00:02:05,940 --> 00:02:08,180 Thank you, Mayor Garcia, and healthy 26 00:02:12,790 --> 00:02:13,190 tonight. 27 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,200 In this song, 28 00:02:22,820 --> 00:02:23,600 in a pandemic, 29 00:02:31,070 --> 00:02:32,730 my God in whom I trust, 30 00:02:38,660 --> 00:02:39,520 he will cover you 31 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:45,900 out with me in a little prayer. 32 00:02:53,230 --> 00:02:59,650 nation's history. Lord, taking comfort in you. Lord, we know that you are bigger than any virus. 33 00:03:00,070 --> 00:03:02,990 Lord, you're stronger than any problem that we face 34 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,300 and face these problems, 35 00:03:09,990 --> 00:03:15,890 mostly to home. Father, we just pray that you would give us courage, that you would give us strength, 36 00:03:16,390 --> 00:03:17,330 that you would give us peace. 37 00:03:24,510 --> 00:03:25,490 Lord, many of us have never 38 00:03:32,590 --> 00:03:36,120 tried to make a ghost city, 39 00:03:36,660 --> 00:03:41,040 but Lord, many decisions are out of their control. They're being handed down to them, Lord, 40 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,360 by Governor Newsom and the state level. 41 00:03:43,500 --> 00:03:45,300 Many decisions are being handed down now 42 00:03:45,300 --> 00:03:46,280 from the federal level. 43 00:03:46,940 --> 00:03:49,060 And so, Lord, I just pray that you bless our mayor 44 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:51,640 and each of the city council members of God 45 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,860 as they work together. 46 00:03:53,220 --> 00:03:55,900 May they work together in unity and make decisions 47 00:03:55,900 --> 00:03:58,740 once again in the best interest of our city. 48 00:03:58,860 --> 00:04:02,020 And, Lord, we do take this up to the mayor 49 00:04:02,020 --> 00:04:04,020 pro-tem of Atlanta situation. 50 00:04:07,820 --> 00:04:10,420 We pray that you would strengthen his wife and his family. 51 00:04:10,980 --> 00:04:13,320 And, Lord, we just pray for that whole city council 52 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,640 lengthen them during this time 53 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,880 to you and not away from you during this season. 54 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,740 God has come up on Easter this weekend. I just pray that millions of 55 00:04:29,740 --> 00:04:30,000 American 56 00:04:32,470 --> 00:04:33,370 TV's God 57 00:04:37,140 --> 00:04:41,240 used to give us hope and peace and strength and it's in his name that I pray. 58 00:04:46,340 --> 00:04:50,940 Thank you. Thank you so very much. God bless you. 59 00:04:54,420 --> 00:05:02,500 Time is an agenda item that may be of complex interest to any council member or board member. 60 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,680 It should be identified at this time. 61 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,100 Do we have anything on the agenda that would be a conflict that 62 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,460 it didn't mean that it didn't mean that 63 00:05:21,790 --> 00:05:28,770 Charlene did you want me to continue or did you want to I could I can the person will be a public hearing 64 00:05:29,350 --> 00:05:34,090 For the wells 122 and the 123 pump-to-waist award of contract 65 00:05:35,070 --> 00:05:42,730 The recommendation is that the water district board approve the notice of exemption for well 122 123 pump-to-waist project 66 00:05:43,550 --> 00:05:54,650 award a construction contract to D.D.H. Apple Valley construction for Wells 122, 123 to waste in the amount of $335,000. 67 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:03,340 And I'll first ask if I'll go ahead, I'm sorry. 68 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,900 No, I'm sorry. I'll ask council members if they have questions of staff first and I'll go. 69 00:06:08,900 --> 00:06:14,100 So if it's okay with you mayor, let's say where we've been going by alphabetical and 70 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:16,800 then with mayor pro tem and then you have the last one. 71 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:17,540 Okay. 72 00:06:19,180 --> 00:06:19,620 Okay. 73 00:06:19,620 --> 00:06:19,640 Yes. 74 00:06:19,900 --> 00:06:20,500 That's fine. 75 00:06:22,370 --> 00:06:24,510 This staff might tell because you want me to open up. 76 00:06:25,770 --> 00:06:26,670 I have a question. 77 00:06:29,870 --> 00:06:30,310 Okay. 78 00:06:30,330 --> 00:06:31,050 That's member Cox. 79 00:06:32,750 --> 00:06:33,190 Okay. 80 00:06:33,570 --> 00:06:33,710 Yeah. 81 00:06:35,090 --> 00:06:36,670 Is that remember some years ago? 82 00:06:36,770 --> 00:06:37,430 This is a question. 83 00:06:39,820 --> 00:06:41,180 Does that remember some years ago? 84 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,400 I think I remember this. 85 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,220 There's 86 00:06:55,220 --> 00:06:58,460 nothing wrong with the water. Why is that still sufficient? 87 00:07:00,950 --> 00:07:07,750 Madam Mayor and members of the council, I'll have Brian fill in the blanks that I can't. 88 00:07:08,370 --> 00:07:17,070 But in some cases, we have wells that discharge and whether they're to a onsite pond or they 89 00:07:17,070 --> 00:07:21,410 actually run down the street curbs and gutters and things like that. 90 00:07:21,410 --> 00:07:27,730 This is intended to retain everything on site first in these tanks and then eventually 91 00:07:27,730 --> 00:07:30,670 perk them back down into the ground. 92 00:07:30,990 --> 00:07:35,610 You are correct that there is nothing wrong with the water, even if it were to continue 93 00:07:35,610 --> 00:07:39,090 to run down the streets as I've seen in many cases. 94 00:07:40,670 --> 00:07:47,390 The reason there's nothing wrong with the water comes directly from the ground, but before 95 00:07:47,390 --> 00:07:55,030 Before we actually pump that water directly into our water system, we do discharge water 96 00:07:55,030 --> 00:08:01,350 so that we can rid the water that goes into the public system from any silt that's brought 97 00:08:01,350 --> 00:08:05,470 up from, earth and silt that's brought up from the aquifer. 98 00:08:05,770 --> 00:08:11,750 So this is intended to contain more on-site pump at first to a tank, let the desilting 99 00:08:11,750 --> 00:08:16,670 occur and then let us slow discharge into a percolation pond that eventually gets the 100 00:08:16,670 --> 00:08:24,550 the water back down into the ground directly below where the pumps are located. Brian and I 101 00:08:24,550 --> 00:08:28,290 miss anything or say anything that wasn't entirely accurate there. 102 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,420 Okay, panel, thanks. So 103 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:44,800 question 104 00:08:46,850 --> 00:08:49,410 because I know that the director 105 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:09,780 of water Doug Matthews you know I know erosion is a part 106 00:09:09,780 --> 00:09:17,040 of it and so as to potentially reduce downstream erosion I believe that's part of the reason but there 107 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,920 there may be more to it than that, Mr. 108 00:09:21,020 --> 00:09:21,580 Matthews? 109 00:09:21,580 --> 00:09:23,060 Yeah, that down 110 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,780 the road, especially where there are roads, 111 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,280 where there are no curbs and gutters. 112 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,960 And to the extent the water actually is creating erosion, 113 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,100 it actually creates more work for the city 114 00:10:06,100 --> 00:10:09,480 in that we likely have to send the shoulder crew out 115 00:10:09,940 --> 00:10:13,900 maybe more frequently to repair the damage to the shoulders. 116 00:10:14,860 --> 00:10:19,160 So all together it's to better contain the discharge 117 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,620 to do a lot of things, including reduced downstream erosion. 118 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,680 Yeah, a lot of our wells are not actually next to a wash or some type of drainage channel. 119 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,340 Any further questions? 120 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:38,140 Okay. 121 00:10:39,140 --> 00:10:41,240 Yeah, he raised the door. 122 00:10:41,540 --> 00:10:41,840 I 123 00:10:45,550 --> 00:10:49,210 was going to go on a tank and two CPG fits at two well sites. 124 00:10:51,210 --> 00:10:53,430 It was almost, and I'm 125 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:08,120 not finding it to be honest with you. 126 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,100 Like 127 00:11:12,750 --> 00:11:13,490 I said, evens, 128 00:11:30,740 --> 00:11:31,860 I mean, just getting conveyed. 129 00:12:19,540 --> 00:12:21,080 Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions? 130 00:12:23,540 --> 00:12:24,560 Yes, just one. 131 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,960 So, please, would this effectively improve our company's footprint? 132 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:31,380 By doing this work? 133 00:12:33,190 --> 00:12:35,710 I'm sorry, would it improve our company's footprint? 134 00:12:42,020 --> 00:12:49,780 Brent, in that the improvements are contained within the well-site, the fenced-in location. 135 00:12:50,660 --> 00:12:56,820 I think it just self-contains itself better, it's probably a better way to characterize 136 00:12:56,820 --> 00:12:57,260 it. 137 00:13:00,630 --> 00:13:01,110 Thank you. 138 00:13:01,170 --> 00:13:01,670 That's all I have. 139 00:13:01,830 --> 00:13:02,150 Thank you. 140 00:13:03,710 --> 00:13:04,330 Council Member Gomez. 141 00:13:04,610 --> 00:13:05,270 Do you have any questions? 142 00:13:11,340 --> 00:13:12,100 Council Member Gomez? 143 00:13:14,870 --> 00:13:15,710 Yes, I'm sorry. 144 00:13:15,910 --> 00:13:17,070 You were muted when I was speaking. 145 00:13:17,210 --> 00:13:17,650 I apologize. 146 00:13:17,950 --> 00:13:24,830 What is the cash flow of this account currently and can we foresee any appropriations of minis 147 00:13:24,830 --> 00:13:29,890 in the upcoming budget year for the affirmative decisions if the council were to decide in the 148 00:13:29,890 --> 00:13:33,850 affirmative to contract with CDH Apple Valley construction. 149 00:13:35,130 --> 00:13:42,030 This particular item, I would say it cash flows consistent with the way the budget was prepared 150 00:13:42,030 --> 00:13:45,910 because this item particularly doesn't require an additional appropriation. 151 00:13:46,670 --> 00:13:54,150 It is from the Water Fund 410 which is rate funded for, for rate funded by water users. 152 00:13:55,070 --> 00:13:58,970 It is a rate funded capital project. 153 00:13:58,970 --> 00:14:07,930 So I guess the answer to the question without the actual numbers in front of me in rate it cash flows consistent with our 154 00:14:07,930 --> 00:14:09,110 fiscal budget 155 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,860 You mean with the current fiscal budget, right? Because we're talking about real time. Yes 156 00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:23,660 Okay, the next question is what account 157 00:14:23,660 --> 00:14:29,680 Financial type of contract you I think you named one which is a great payers, but I don't know there's multiple 158 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,460 It's fun and perhaps the word account is also confusing 159 00:14:34,060 --> 00:14:37,560 It's fun 410-410, which is the water fund. 160 00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:44,860 I guess my question goes to how does that get funded? 161 00:14:45,060 --> 00:14:46,760 I mean, money doesn't grow on trees. 162 00:14:46,940 --> 00:14:48,700 I don't need to be rude. I'm just trying to explain. 163 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,700 So where is that coming from? 164 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,520 Rape fares. 165 00:14:52,700 --> 00:14:54,360 What did you call them? Rape fares? 166 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,000 Rape fares. 167 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:57,940 Oh, that's the only one. 168 00:14:57,940 --> 00:14:59,800 Okay, and are there scheduled? 169 00:15:10,340 --> 00:15:21,780 We operate in accord with a five-year rate plan, and I believe we're in year four of that rate plan. That's where Mr. Matthews can correct me up on wrong. 170 00:15:21,780 --> 00:15:30,280 long. And this year we adopted a rate increase consistent with the rate plan when we approved 171 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:30,740 the budget. 172 00:15:48,820 --> 00:15:53,340 With that said, if we have two of these to be implemented and it's part of the master 173 00:15:53,340 --> 00:15:58,420 plan, why did Lahont can have to come into the picture? And more explanation that you 174 00:15:58,420 --> 00:16:00,460 can contextualize with, I speak to Mr. 175 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,240 Gangler State, it reduced the still-and-drainage 176 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:11,120 channels to mitigate La Hansen's requirement, what they were, and despite the fact that there 177 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,520 may be some type of water news in fact and cause other things, would you be able to contextualize 178 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:21,860 the La Hansen with what we're doing here in terms of the fiscal impact, how La Hansen plays 179 00:16:21,860 --> 00:16:24,800 in, and what we're doing today with this particular item. 180 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,740 Mr. Gangler, you want to try to address that? 181 00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:32,490 Yes, I can, so 182 00:16:41,740 --> 00:16:42,600 we're meant in. 183 00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:30,150 Thank you, no further questions. 184 00:17:32,540 --> 00:17:34,440 Mayor Pro Temmer, Mayor, is do you have any questions? 185 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:34,620 Any questions? 186 00:17:37,380 --> 00:17:37,700 No. 187 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,620 Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions? 188 00:17:43,900 --> 00:17:44,200 No. 189 00:17:44,580 --> 00:17:45,620 Everything is in answer. 190 00:17:46,020 --> 00:17:46,500 Thank you. 191 00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:50,840 I'll go ahead and open the public hearing. 192 00:17:52,100 --> 00:17:56,020 Is there anyone on the line that would like to speak on this item? 193 00:17:59,940 --> 00:18:00,980 There be no one. 194 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,500 I'll close the public hearing. 195 00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:07,970 Mayor would you like to ask for a motion in a second? 196 00:18:11,220 --> 00:18:11,660 Certainly. 197 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:14,540 At this time we need a motion in a second. 198 00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:19,380 So it's a bit of an invite to move in and recommend a fight. 199 00:18:19,380 --> 00:18:20,400 I 200 00:18:25,010 --> 00:18:26,750 have a minute second I'll 201 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:36,760 second I do have a I have a motion by Councilmember Gomez and I have a second by Councilmember Cox all 202 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,960 Those in favor. I'm going to call roll call right now. Councilmember Cox 203 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,740 Councilmember Gomez 204 00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:53,060 Councilmember Jones I 205 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,240 Mayor Pro Temmer Mara's 206 00:18:59,380 --> 00:19:01,440 Yes. Mayor Garcia? 207 00:19:04,060 --> 00:19:07,320 Yes. Motion passes unanimously. 208 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,480 Mayor, do you want to open up the consent? 209 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:38,400 Yes. A cop. Now we move on to consent calendar and we have our consent calendar item 2 through 9 and they may be approved with one motion and there is an item that needs to be approved for discussion. 210 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,200 If 211 00:19:44,410 --> 00:19:50,150 we do not have any items that need to be pulled then I would need a motion and a second. 212 00:19:51,890 --> 00:19:52,450 Seconded. 213 00:19:54,650 --> 00:19:56,170 I didn't get the first one. 214 00:19:56,590 --> 00:19:57,670 Okay, thank you. 215 00:19:57,950 --> 00:20:03,370 I have a motion made by Councilmember Cox, seconded by Councilmember Gomez. 216 00:20:04,330 --> 00:20:05,110 All those in favor? 217 00:20:05,490 --> 00:20:06,090 Councilmember Cox? 218 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:10,240 Councilmember Gomez? 219 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:12,640 Aye. 220 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,880 Councilmember Jones. 221 00:20:16,110 --> 00:20:17,590 Mayor Pro Temer, Maris. 222 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:21,960 Mayor Garcia. 223 00:20:25,740 --> 00:20:26,860 Motion passes unanimously. 224 00:20:32,370 --> 00:20:39,190 Now we move on to a written communication, Shirley and I'll let you continue from there. 225 00:20:39,610 --> 00:20:44,030 Okay. This is a termination of power purchase agreement between the City of Victorville and 226 00:20:44,030 --> 00:20:49,030 Hecatee Engineering. The recommendation is that the City Council approve the termination 227 00:20:49,030 --> 00:20:54,750 agreement between the City of Victorville and Hecatee Engineering, Pello Alto, authorizes 228 00:20:54,750 --> 00:21:01,570 City Manager to execute set termination agreement and adopt resolution number 20-015 amending 229 00:21:01,570 --> 00:21:05,710 the fiscal year 2019-2020 budget by $50,000. 230 00:21:08,370 --> 00:21:12,830 At this time I could ask council members if they have questions. 231 00:21:13,710 --> 00:21:15,890 Council member Cox, do you have any questions? 232 00:21:16,630 --> 00:21:17,230 No questions. 233 00:21:18,010 --> 00:21:20,270 Council member Jones, do you have any questions? 234 00:21:23,610 --> 00:21:25,750 Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions? 235 00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:36,810 Yes, I know this was part of our close session discussion, which presumed that it wouldn't come onto the next council meeting. 236 00:21:37,210 --> 00:21:45,830 So I was left with not really finding what the benefit was for us to release 450,000 and keep 50 grand. 237 00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:49,530 and if someone can clarify, I just don't see a benefit, 238 00:21:49,530 --> 00:21:53,510 I almost feel like we're losing over half a million dollars 239 00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:57,150 and we're keeping not even a 1% just to recover 240 00:21:57,150 --> 00:21:59,610 what would be the time being spent. 241 00:21:59,850 --> 00:22:03,610 I mean, do we have evidence of the time being circulated 242 00:22:03,610 --> 00:22:06,210 and documented so that we can see that it amounts 243 00:22:06,210 --> 00:22:08,410 to half over half a million dollars? 244 00:22:09,050 --> 00:22:10,590 I mean, 450, sorry. 245 00:22:10,590 --> 00:22:10,790 Sorry. 246 00:22:12,130 --> 00:22:17,750 Yeah, Madam Mayor, members of the council, if I might, and Director of Electric Utility 247 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:22,890 Services, Brenda Hampton is also on the line and she can fill in the blanks where 248 00:22:23,570 --> 00:22:27,190 I can't and she can correct me where I may be wrong. 249 00:22:27,910 --> 00:22:33,970 But this transaction dates back to April 17, 2018 and it effectively was an agreement by 250 00:22:33,970 --> 00:22:40,910 by Victorville Municipal Utility Services to forward commit its purchase of electricity 251 00:22:41,630 --> 00:22:50,230 once the developer, in this case, Hecatee Palo Alto, completes the build out of a solar power 252 00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:59,850 generating facility as an inducement to get the Victorville Utility Services to take the 253 00:22:59,850 --> 00:23:06,910 the developer serious in believing it had the ability to perform, the developer actually 254 00:23:06,910 --> 00:23:13,510 agreed as a part of the power purchase contract to put together, to deposit with the city 255 00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:25,930 a $500,000 form of security as a deposit. And that was a deposit effectively to serve as good 256 00:23:25,930 --> 00:23:31,290 faith that it was going to perform in developing the project. 257 00:23:32,090 --> 00:23:40,470 Now as it made the deposit as security, that money was never earned by Victorville Utility 258 00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:45,290 Services and has never been earned by Victorville Utility Services. 259 00:23:45,930 --> 00:23:53,350 However, because the developer was unable to satisfy provisions of the contract and actually 260 00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:58,710 complete to the build out of the proposed power generating facility, I 261 00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:04,650 did to enter into 262 00:24:04,650 --> 00:24:09,710 settlement conversations to actually unwind to this transaction. 263 00:24:11,330 --> 00:24:17,950 The city had considered trying to recover its actual damages and estimated its actual 264 00:24:17,950 --> 00:24:23,610 damages closer to the $50,000 that is the settlement amount on this transaction. 265 00:24:23,610 --> 00:24:53,490 So mechanically, the way this transaction would work if the council approved it would be that as we're currently holding the $500,000 deposit, if the council approves this agreement we would retain $50,000 to offset our time energy investment and actually originally developing this agreement and return the $450,000 deposit that effectively was a good faith deposit by the developer. 266 00:24:54,050 --> 00:25:01,430 So, just to be clear, any of that $500,000 was not earned, it was more of a performance 267 00:25:01,430 --> 00:25:07,030 guarantee that it was going to build and with settlement we're just recovering our costs. 268 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,780 Okay, so there's a little bit more sophistication there then. 269 00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:21,740 So, in the conversation I had understood that we, as a city of Vickerville, had put a deposit 270 00:25:21,740 --> 00:25:29,220 it to allow heckes to show space with the financing firm so they would get loans and 271 00:25:29,220 --> 00:25:32,320 be able to do the production and then we would get our portfolio met. 272 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:38,940 But now it's my understanding that they just deposit and we're gaining 50 grand which 273 00:25:38,940 --> 00:25:45,580 means that to help with the cost that we're incurred during the process, is that what I'm 274 00:25:45,580 --> 00:25:45,800 hearing? 275 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,600 That is correct. 276 00:25:48,820 --> 00:25:49,400 I got it. 277 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,420 Thank you for that clarification. 278 00:25:50,420 --> 00:25:51,500 I have no further questions. 279 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,660 Mayor Pro Temmer, do you have any questions? 280 00:25:59,530 --> 00:26:01,170 Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions? 281 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,740 No, I'm just glad we made 50 grand. 282 00:26:08,820 --> 00:26:15,100 Let me check on the line to see if there's anyone who would like to speak on this item. 283 00:26:15,260 --> 00:26:17,340 Is there anyone who would like to speak on the item on the phone? 284 00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:22,230 There's no speakers. 285 00:26:24,740 --> 00:26:25,120 No. 286 00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:29,060 Okay, at this time we need a motion and a second. 287 00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:44,690 I have a motion by Councilmember Jones, seconded by Mayor Garcia, all those in favor? 288 00:26:44,970 --> 00:26:45,570 Councilmember Cox? 289 00:26:48,820 --> 00:26:49,530 Councilmember Gomez? 290 00:26:51,150 --> 00:26:51,970 Aye. 291 00:26:52,690 --> 00:26:53,670 Councilmember Jones? 292 00:26:54,150 --> 00:26:54,950 Aye. 293 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:58,920 Mayor Pro Temer-Marras? 294 00:27:01,870 --> 00:27:02,050 Aye. 295 00:27:02,290 --> 00:27:03,390 Mayor Garcia? 296 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,980 Motion passes unanimously. 297 00:27:15,170 --> 00:27:19,550 Item 11 is acquisition of automatic license plate readers and a number of other members 298 00:27:19,550 --> 00:27:24,570 approval of an enterprise service agreement, that the City Council approved the purchase 299 00:27:24,570 --> 00:27:34,530 of 37 fixed automatic license plate reader, Reaper HD cameras in the amount of $397,959.31 300 00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:40,970 from Vigilant Solutions LLC, approved the enterprise services agreement for automatic 301 00:27:40,970 --> 00:27:46,510 license plate recognition program services for a period of one year, and authorized a city 302 00:27:46,510 --> 00:27:51,110 committee manager to execute said enterprise service agreement and any transactional related 303 00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:53,590 document to effectuate this transaction. 304 00:27:56,460 --> 00:28:00,580 I will ask council members, if they have any questions, council member Cox, do you have 305 00:28:00,580 --> 00:28:01,060 any questions? 306 00:28:02,940 --> 00:28:03,220 No. 307 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,100 Council member Jones, do you have any questions? 308 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,860 Yes, I do. 309 00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:09,780 Thank you, Madam Clerk. 310 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:18,200 So, Mr. Metzler, this item comes in at significantly below what was appropriated for 311 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:31,080 this project. So is this a full of the projects and is what we're looking at now is it sufficient 312 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:38,300 for our present needs and is it also worked for anticipating our future development 313 00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:39,320 in population growth? 314 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:48,600 Thank you Madam Mayor and members of the council. So this item as 315 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:57,220 As you recall, as the council, we did approve $450,000 as a capital budget item for this technology. 316 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:06,580 While the fiscal impact shows 397 is being less than the 450, there is a separate maintenance 317 00:29:06,580 --> 00:29:13,400 contract that goes along with this that will actually get us pretty darn close to the 450,000. 318 00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:17,960 That maintenance contract, however, does not have to come back to the council because it 319 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,940 actually fits within my purchasing authority. 320 00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:23,900 So, once this is approved, then I can move forward 321 00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:25,220 with that maintenance contract. 322 00:29:25,420 --> 00:29:31,320 And we will spend as much of that $450,000 as possible. 323 00:29:31,820 --> 00:29:34,780 Speaking to the scope of the project in myself 324 00:29:34,780 --> 00:29:38,240 and police chief messenger who is on the phone as well, 325 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,600 and he can fill in some blanks for me, 326 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,760 this item is what we're considering completing two 327 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:52,620 of three phases of an entire scope. The reason why we couldn't complete all three of the 328 00:29:52,620 --> 00:29:59,820 desired. I'm sorry all three of the phases is because to complete all three phases it took us the 329 00:30:00,690 --> 00:30:30,430 The three phases took us to a price that was greater than what we had budgeted. So at this point, phases one and two, which comprise 37 high definition ALPR cameras, will be purchased, and installed. And our vision without being in the budget process yet, though we're nearing the developing and the drafting of the budget, we're envisioning budgeting at the least, phase three to be done. 330 00:30:30,430 --> 00:30:35,090 done in the next budget and presuming the council approves that then we can move forward 331 00:30:35,090 --> 00:30:43,130 with the fully intended scope. As to the growth, right now really our focus hasn't been 332 00:30:44,110 --> 00:30:51,750 on growth. Our focus more so has been upon traffic. And where are the major ingresses 333 00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:59,810 and egresses into the city? And how do we first try to capture all those ins and outs into 334 00:30:59,810 --> 00:31:05,990 city. Ultimately the chief and I would like to once we box the city in for lack of better terms 335 00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:12,970 then start creating smaller boxes or smaller rings within the city so the technology can be used 336 00:31:12,970 --> 00:31:20,310 to better isolate and the technology is largely intended as you probably already know to be a tool 337 00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:27,410 to help law enforcement solve crimes faster and certainly there's some examples and the chief could 338 00:31:27,410 --> 00:31:31,430 probably particularly better than I some of those examples but this is really 339 00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:36,210 intended to help some of our deputies detectives solve crimes quicker so at 340 00:31:36,210 --> 00:31:39,290 the same time as we're solving the crimes quicker we can get those deputies back 341 00:31:39,290 --> 00:31:45,490 on the street in solving other issues or dealing with other patrol related 342 00:31:45,490 --> 00:31:48,650 matters. Chief you want to jump in on that? 343 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,240 Sure thank you City Manager you said a very well it's just that if there's any 344 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:03,200 additional questions on it. It's essentially, I'll give you an example of real life that we 345 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,900 have recently in the city when it came to the ALPR even though we don't have them. We have 346 00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:13,600 a sister city that has them. We had a takeover robbery of one of our businesses in the city and 347 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:20,460 we're able to get a day vehicle description based on some investigative work by the detective. Within 348 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:27,850 In the exact thing, we were able to identify the suspect off of an automated license plate 349 00:32:27,850 --> 00:32:33,490 reader kit in the city of the Sparia and ultimately led to the arrest of the suspect to 350 00:32:33,490 --> 00:32:34,410 take over robbery. 351 00:32:34,810 --> 00:32:42,030 Without that information from that ALPR, it's questionable whether or not we would have 352 00:32:42,030 --> 00:32:48,430 been able to solve that crime that timely and or at all because we had a fake vehicle 353 00:32:48,430 --> 00:32:52,970 description, and that was it. That's just a small example. There's other examples that 354 00:32:52,970 --> 00:32:59,330 we have of license plate readers from the simple standpoint is recovering stolen vehicles 355 00:32:59,330 --> 00:33:05,850 for instance, also amber alert, things like that. Those things get put into that system. 356 00:33:06,490 --> 00:33:12,470 And essentially what it's akin to is having a deputy sheriff standing at an intersection 357 00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:14,610 where this camera is seeing 358 00:33:16,910 --> 00:33:19,810 every license plate and being able to immediately know whether 359 00:33:19,810 --> 00:33:25,470 are not that they endanger a person, a wanted person, or anything like that, plus also 360 00:33:25,470 --> 00:33:30,210 notating down the types of vehicles, models, so on and so forth. 361 00:33:30,670 --> 00:33:36,070 So other than the basic, yes, you get a solar vehicle answer, also you're collecting data 362 00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:40,650 for further investigations, which in that one particular case really helped us. 363 00:33:41,370 --> 00:33:43,630 This is a proven technology. 364 00:33:44,150 --> 00:33:47,850 This isn't something we're just stepping out on on our own for the first time. 365 00:33:47,850 --> 00:33:54,210 There's various cities throughout California in the country that have this technology and it's been proven 366 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,970 And it is it's been proven to be a force multiplier 367 00:33:58,690 --> 00:34:00,390 When it comes to law enforcement 368 00:34:00,390 --> 00:34:01,270 And 369 00:34:04,220 --> 00:34:10,820 then just a quick follow up. So how many how many readers do are we looking to add in phase three? 370 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,600 phase three 371 00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:20,860 My my documents here show that there's an additional 20 that we would accomplish in phase three 372 00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:25,300 All right. Very good. Thank you. That's all I have. Madame Perth. 373 00:34:26,180 --> 00:34:27,800 Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions? 374 00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:33,060 Yes. I do. Can you hear me? Yes. 375 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:41,400 Yes. Okay. Perfect. So, yes, there are numerous concerns with this 376 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,720 license plate reader for obvious reasons that I have encountered with the general public. 377 00:34:47,020 --> 00:34:52,160 And I'm only going to voice a few in terms of questions. So, some of these concerns, 378 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:59,760 it's Captain Bessinger and chime in. Will the police department, will the police department 379 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:06,860 be storing millions of records in terms of capturing these license plate readers and storing 380 00:35:06,860 --> 00:35:13,940 the data? And how will the city monitor what information is being stored if it's not 381 00:35:13,940 --> 00:35:17,540 just for criminal reasons and it's going beyond the criminal aspect of it? 382 00:35:17,540 --> 00:35:18,180 Okay. 383 00:35:22,690 --> 00:35:29,370 The answer to storing data is correct. The law provides for the law enforcement entity 384 00:35:29,370 --> 00:35:34,610 stores data and reference to these automated license plate readers and the database for 385 00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:42,090 investigation. Therefore, it can only be used for law enforcement purposes. So the Sheriff's 386 00:35:42,090 --> 00:35:47,330 Department itself would be responsible for storing that. Please enter your pin by following 387 00:35:48,890 --> 00:35:53,250 if you do not know, if you do not know, if you are in a town or a hash. 388 00:36:00,380 --> 00:36:00,880 Thank you. 389 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,500 Even information that you selected for purposes of this nature and others? 390 00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:05,820 Yes or no? 391 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:07,160 No. 392 00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:10,360 My understanding is that someone wanted a public records act request. 393 00:36:10,980 --> 00:36:17,280 It has to be for a law enforcement purpose to release that data is my understanding. 394 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:20,860 What do you need to understand? 395 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,680 Sorry, go ahead. 396 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,460 No, yeah, your women's law enforcement reason, what does that mean? 397 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,720 Law enforcement reason would be, for instance, we can access the data because we're doing 398 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:38,680 a criminal investigation in reference to maybe why a vehicle went through a certain intersection 399 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,660 or so on and so forth. 400 00:36:40,180 --> 00:36:45,480 Someone can't just, they have to have the legal right, someone can't just decide, I want to request 401 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,960 records from this year to this year and get a bunch of individuals' private information. 402 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,220 It has 403 00:36:54,270 --> 00:36:58,190 computers in our corner and we can run light and play, but we don't provide that 404 00:36:58,190 --> 00:37:05,590 information out to the public as a standard protocol because that is confidential information. 405 00:37:05,930 --> 00:37:07,610 Here's for law enforcement purposes only. 406 00:37:08,690 --> 00:37:14,110 What are we going to do to passify if we can passify, whether I don't know if it's misinformation 407 00:37:14,110 --> 00:37:21,270 or just intimidation or fear of the authority behind the blue badge, but being told that 408 00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:27,090 Millions, at least apartments, two store millions of records about innocent drivers. 409 00:37:27,890 --> 00:37:35,370 And this information is ultimately in violation of a lot of the legal rights that people 410 00:37:35,370 --> 00:37:36,730 have as private citizens. 411 00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:42,720 Well, again, this has been this one 412 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,160 for a while and it's proven. 413 00:37:46,740 --> 00:37:53,620 And I don't know of any laws that states that the storage of that information is against 414 00:37:53,620 --> 00:38:03,570 a law from someone's registered innocent citizens, there's nothing that indicates or any case 415 00:38:03,570 --> 00:38:04,710 law that I'm aware of. 416 00:38:07,690 --> 00:38:07,810 Right. 417 00:38:08,070 --> 00:38:12,650 So I wanted to make sure that they live on the records that the concerns of residents 418 00:38:13,250 --> 00:38:19,090 is such that the retention of such information, including innocent bystanders, would be collected 419 00:38:19,790 --> 00:38:23,670 and there would be no restriction to a lot of the protection of their privacy rights and 420 00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:28,210 And the force is always the other argument of lowering time and hopefully it's just for 421 00:38:28,210 --> 00:38:34,370 the criminality aspect and not to, you know, kind of intended to quarantine the city 422 00:38:34,370 --> 00:38:39,090 of Victorville for any criminality or civil actions or of that nature. 423 00:38:39,290 --> 00:38:45,490 So it's really, really to show that there is different perspectives of how we feel of certain 424 00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:49,610 things being done that could be restrictive to our rights. 425 00:38:49,870 --> 00:38:50,170 Thank you. 426 00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:55,450 Mayor Pro Temmer, Maris, do you have any questions? 427 00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,300 Yes, I do. 428 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,920 I would like to know, upon approval, how quickly will we have that? 429 00:39:06,460 --> 00:39:13,660 Actually, in fact, how soon will we be able to use project items? 430 00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:20,390 Mr. Clerk, city engineer, do you have an idea? 431 00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:23,610 I know you helped scope this for us. 432 00:39:28,350 --> 00:39:28,590 Definitely. 433 00:39:28,930 --> 00:39:30,750 But I know that they're from 434 00:40:05,470 --> 00:40:05,870 the contractor. 435 00:40:05,870 --> 00:40:06,790 Okay, 436 00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:17,980 the second question is because in the high days there were all concern about the 437 00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:26,400 rate of crime history on the purchase of this particular project that will lessen crime 438 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:27,640 by a percentage. 439 00:40:27,980 --> 00:40:34,200 In other words, are we looking that we would be able to have at least two or three percent 440 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:41,220 less crime because we have this capability of resolving a crime faster? 441 00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:41,680 Hope 442 00:40:45,010 --> 00:40:51,830 so, but you know being the professional in that field maybe Rick is the best one to answer his perspective now 443 00:40:55,220 --> 00:41:02,860 I would say I hate to put a number to it because it's obviously would be an estimation on our part once we get them 444 00:41:02,860 --> 00:41:04,740 Of course with the city 445 00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:11,700 my personal experience not only researching this and being all the ALPRs 446 00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:21,240 As I do believe it ends up being a deterrent and when we can catch these these folks committing these crimes sooner 447 00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:22,100 some 448 00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:28,330 of their little crimes for these things like that. 449 00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:30,590 So I do believe it was raw. 450 00:41:32,350 --> 00:41:34,650 I just had the taste to give any kind of actual numbers 451 00:41:34,650 --> 00:41:36,190 because quite honestly, 452 00:41:36,990 --> 00:41:41,090 crime statistics, when it comes to various crimes occurring, 453 00:41:41,350 --> 00:41:44,910 there's many, many, many things that cause them, 454 00:41:44,930 --> 00:41:48,530 and it's a little bit just off the cuff looking into a crystal ball. 455 00:41:48,650 --> 00:41:50,250 So I don't want to stick to a number, 456 00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:53,530 but I won't tell you my belief is this one for men's crimes 457 00:41:53,530 --> 00:41:57,550 and it will also have a great impact on those that are 458 00:41:57,550 --> 00:42:00,250 praying on our citizens of the city. 459 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,980 Thank you. That's very important to me because 460 00:42:04,980 --> 00:42:09,140 I would feel that with the purchase of 461 00:42:09,140 --> 00:42:15,140 this particular item that the intent is to have 462 00:42:15,140 --> 00:42:20,120 a question that being safe at home knowing that our 463 00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:23,520 law enforcement will be there to protect us 464 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:29,900 right along which thousand times and it can be a determined in terms of having people 465 00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:31,520 see that they can get away with it. 466 00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:37,240 If we can lessen that, I know that our residents will be very happy to know that we're doing 467 00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:39,520 our utmost best to protect them. 468 00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:43,340 And so I think they're likely to say it's worth the money. 469 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,060 And I hope that we would be able to be in place as soon as possible. 470 00:42:53,050 --> 00:42:53,410 Thank you. 471 00:42:55,470 --> 00:42:57,190 Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions? 472 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:15,860 If you can actually stop a criminal or if you can trace a vehicle, you know, immediately, 473 00:43:17,460 --> 00:43:20,820 because their caravan is safe and just coming on the crime. 474 00:43:20,940 --> 00:43:24,140 They can see you move from there on to meet other funds. 475 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:31,680 So, is use in our choice with a stop to any need at least, uh, to prevent additional 476 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,120 crime. 477 00:43:32,340 --> 00:43:40,240 So, I'm really looking forward to seeing this, um, right, so I'm going to see if there's 478 00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:43,940 anyone on the phone that would like to speak during public comment on this item. 479 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:46,360 Is there anyone there that would like to speak on this item? 480 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,980 I would like to make a comment. 481 00:43:50,540 --> 00:43:50,980 Okay. 482 00:43:51,140 --> 00:43:52,180 Could you state your name for me? 483 00:43:57,340 --> 00:44:00,640 Okay, Barbara, you have three minutes, please. 484 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,680 My question to this is, is this similar to the red light cameras? 485 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:14,180 Are you guys going to use them for that purpose as well to capture if we are ready red lights 486 00:44:14,180 --> 00:44:18,040 or if our tags aren't paid and things like that? 487 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:23,220 And my question question is, will there be a sign that says, you know how I used to have 488 00:44:23,220 --> 00:44:27,960 a sign that said this was a red light camera, that you know that your information is being 489 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:35,220 given to the government as a constituent that I don't do anything wrong, I feel that if 490 00:44:35,220 --> 00:44:40,740 I go through an intersection and you're capturing my stuff, I should be known that I'm in 491 00:44:40,740 --> 00:44:44,400 Please enter your pen followed by the pound or hash. 492 00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:48,920 If you do not know your pen, please enter pound or hash. 493 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,060 Sorry, Barbara. 494 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,780 I think I can answer that question. 495 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:10,460 Input is invalid. You entered one. Please enter your pin, followed by the pound or hash. If you do not know your pin, please enter pound or hash. 496 00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:17,750 You're not. You're not. You're not. You're not. Yeah, it's coming. Thank you. 497 00:45:19,980 --> 00:45:21,000 Yes, I'm trying 498 00:45:23,210 --> 00:45:32,110 this meeting is right to me. I'm sorry, Valentin. I'm sorry, Valentin. Could you hold? We have another person during public comment right now. 499 00:45:35,230 --> 00:45:41,470 So, this is Keith Metsler, City Manager, to answer the question of the previous speaker. 500 00:45:42,620 --> 00:45:47,890 The answer to the first question, which I remember to be, are these like the red light 501 00:45:47,890 --> 00:45:48,310 cameras? 502 00:45:48,590 --> 00:45:49,830 The answer to that is no. 503 00:45:50,050 --> 00:45:57,670 These are cameras specifically and only intended to be used as license plate readers. 504 00:45:57,670 --> 00:46:05,470 so video will not be used to do any other traffic enforcement other than just 505 00:46:05,470 --> 00:46:10,450 to collect data on license plates and vehicles driving through that are 506 00:46:10,450 --> 00:46:15,750 connected to those license plates. As to the signs I don't believe we have 507 00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:24,210 signs scoped because again they're not operating like those those red light 508 00:46:24,210 --> 00:46:24,910 cameras. 509 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:32,100 I 510 00:46:34,210 --> 00:46:35,630 think that answers the questions. 511 00:46:37,890 --> 00:46:39,670 Barbara do you have any further questions? 512 00:46:51,140 --> 00:46:59,900 Barbara? Let me just jump in for all my leadership department heads on the 513 00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:01,980 Council's line please mute your phones. 514 00:47:05,660 --> 00:47:07,500 This is Barbara. I'm good. Thank you. 515 00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:16,460 All right. Thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to speak on this item during public comment for item 11? 516 00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:29,910 Okay. There's no, but no further comments on that. So Madam Mayor, if you would like a motion to ask for a motion in a second. 517 00:47:30,690 --> 00:47:34,790 Yes. That is my request. The motion in a second. 518 00:47:35,210 --> 00:47:38,730 I saw a booth staff recommendations on this. 519 00:47:40,590 --> 00:47:41,030 Second. 520 00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:47,450 second. I have a motion by Councilmember Cox seconded by Mayor Garcia is there 521 00:47:47,450 --> 00:47:48,430 any further comments? 522 00:47:52,860 --> 00:48:00,140 I would like to state something as well. I don't know if 523 00:48:00,140 --> 00:48:07,360 the response that he provided Barbara was founded with the agreement for the 524 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:13,240 contract for the contract that we are about to initiate and to an affirmative or 525 00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:19,620 not. And so it was stated that it's only intended as a license plate reader to collect data 526 00:48:19,620 --> 00:48:24,960 and license plates, connect the license plate, which means in the interpretation that it 527 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:30,600 wouldn't be used for any of the fashion. However, I didn't read that within the contract 528 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:35,520 or within what was going to occur. So I don't know if that's something that means clarification. 529 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:44,380 But again, as a misnomer, someone that's known to voices, different voices, I am going to 530 00:48:44,380 --> 00:48:50,540 go ahead and vote in the not be affirmative because we have enough people to vote for it. 531 00:48:50,620 --> 00:48:55,980 And I think it's still really strong about the privacy violation of a lot of these issues 532 00:48:55,980 --> 00:49:00,500 being regarded within the streets as misappropriated. 533 00:49:00,740 --> 00:49:04,520 And we're not going to have oversight from the city of Vistica that it looks like. 534 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,440 So it's kind of just going to be dangling there and just going to be asking for information 535 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,720 to make sure that that is essentially not happening. 536 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:16,600 And so that's the comment that I wanted to let go, but please don't misinterpret it. 537 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,260 That I want more time, because that is not what I am saying, and it shouldn't be interpreted 538 00:49:20,260 --> 00:49:21,040 as that fashion. 539 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,600 I have different concerns that the values of other people also need to be spoken and my 540 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,380 voice is going to be directed towards that voice. 541 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:28,960 Thank you. 542 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,500 Is there any further comment? 543 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,760 They have a motion by Council Member Cox, seconded by Mayor Garcia, all those in favour? 544 00:49:40,220 --> 00:49:40,840 Council Member Cox? 545 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,700 Council Member Gomez? 546 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,000 No. 547 00:49:47,620 --> 00:49:48,740 Council Member Jones? 548 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,080 Aye. 549 00:49:52,020 --> 00:49:53,320 Mayor Pro Temmer-Marras? 550 00:49:58,170 --> 00:49:58,830 Mayor Garcia? 551 00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:05,950 Motion carries with Council Member Gomez voting no. 552 00:50:10,110 --> 00:50:11,370 Now item number 12. 553 00:50:11,370 --> 00:50:12,370 This 554 00:50:14,510 --> 00:50:20,810 is an update on the city's approach to the coronavirus COVID-19, any actions at the 555 00:50:20,810 --> 00:50:22,470 discretion of the city council. 556 00:50:25,170 --> 00:50:26,830 Do you want to take or do you want to ask questions? 557 00:50:29,370 --> 00:50:38,330 Madam Mayor and members of the council since February 18th, which was the originating date or when 558 00:50:38,330 --> 00:50:48,690 the council asked that we report on what we were doing related to COVID-19. That was at a time 559 00:50:48,690 --> 00:50:58,220 we certainly before we really started feeling the issue locally and certainly before we had done 560 00:50:58,220 --> 00:51:04,800 a number of things which is which includes having declared a local emergency of course the 561 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:12,920 emergencies have extended worldwide and are felt nationally and at our state levels as well. 562 00:51:14,540 --> 00:51:20,580 And of course, since we met last for that purpose of ratifying the emergency declaration, 563 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:29,060 staff had gone so far as to stand up its emergency operations center. 564 00:51:29,060 --> 00:51:35,340 that EOC as we call it is still stood up today and still being staffed largely by 565 00:51:35,340 --> 00:51:42,100 your leadership and their support staff. And since having been stood up it was 566 00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:47,840 stood up for what started out to be four primary goals. Those goals being to 567 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:53,160 attend to the homeless populations need to ensure that all of our employees had 568 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,480 adequate PPE in providing their services to the community. 569 00:51:58,510 --> 00:52:07,620 We also identified a goal too and we managed this goal to monitor all of the state federal 570 00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:14,360 county regulations that seem to be changing on a daily basis and, of course, managing 571 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:21,640 our human resources all with the intent of better readying ourselves in case this pandemic 572 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:27,100 pandemic turns into something even more dramatic than what we're experiencing, which in our 573 00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:34,800 minds would include needing additional facilities for COVID patients, whether symptomatic or 574 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:40,960 tested positive. So we've been operating in an EOC environment. City Hall has been closed, 575 00:52:41,220 --> 00:52:46,280 city facilities have been closed, city parks have been closed to the public, yet we still 576 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,040 provide the services to our residents. 577 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:58,360 Because the City Council asked for an update as to what we were doing, staff put together 578 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:07,780 this staff report that we had done since the drafting of this staff report, and that 579 00:53:07,780 --> 00:53:09,840 was March 26th. 580 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:16,820 And unless there's any specific questions on that, I think you can see that we've done 581 00:53:16,820 --> 00:53:24,540 quite a lot when it comes projects that are consistent with the goals that I 582 00:53:24,540 --> 00:53:32,400 had just outlined but in addition to that and since March 26th I'll share with 583 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:38,920 you that for our non-sheltered homeless population we had since added to 584 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:44,600 additional sanitation stations or used by our homeless population. We now have 585 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,500 about eight sanitation stations deployed in areas that are frequented by our homeless 586 00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:55,000 population. The purpose of these sanitation stations is to improve hygiene and order 587 00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,080 to reduce the spread of COVID-19 to our homeless population and broader community. 588 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:07,020 City employees continue to monitor the sanitation stations for use and damage, and the sanitation 589 00:54:07,020 --> 00:54:13,040 stations are service daily. Code enforcement officers are used and have reported that most 590 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:18,700 Most incantement occupants have continued to utilize the provided trash bags and trash 591 00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:22,820 receptacles and have seen incantement clean up activities in action. 592 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:28,200 A map of the location and details listing the resources available at each of the sanitation 593 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:35,280 stations is now available on our city website which is www.victavilleca.gov forward slash corona 594 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:35,820 virus. 595 00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:45,300 In addition to that, and specific to our sheltered homeless, we've also done a lot to 596 00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:46,560 attend to that population. 597 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:53,980 We've ordered and provided additional gloves, masks, thermometers, hepophilters, anthepophilters 598 00:54:53,980 --> 00:54:55,740 to the local homeless shelter sites. 599 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,860 We have three that we're working with closely. 600 00:54:58,860 --> 00:55:06,580 We've also compiled a list of more than 60 individual volunteers including 21 nursing 601 00:55:06,580 --> 00:55:12,260 students to assist the homeless shelter with operations and expand those operations 602 00:55:12,260 --> 00:55:16,000 to city shelter sites if and when activated. 603 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:23,440 One other thing that we've done because our homeless population is very unique. 604 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:29,100 we've also purchased a number of canals and supplies in preparation for 605 00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:34,120 potential to shelter animals and accompanying homeless individuals at our 606 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:39,400 city's shelter sites if and when activated. Beyond that our 607 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,440 Vickerville ELC continues to coordinate with and support of our county local 608 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:50,980 agencies. This was evident that the recent COVID-19 testing event the county 609 00:55:50,980 --> 00:55:56,320 hosted at the Fairgrounds last Thursday. Our city staff coordinated the site plan staging 610 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:01,500 and traffic control plan. We provided logistical support to include restrooms and our facility 611 00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:06,520 staff, public works crew and police and fire provided support to ensure this important 612 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:13,680 event for our community ran smoothly. Our continued coordination with the county agencies 613 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,580 is critical in preparing to adequately respond to community needs during the forthcoming 614 00:56:18,580 --> 00:56:24,700 peak of this pandemic where government authorized alternative care sites may need to be mobilized 615 00:56:24,700 --> 00:56:28,780 in the short term. In accordance with the city's MOU with the County of San 616 00:56:28,780 --> 00:56:34,760 Medina, we identified and assessed three city facilities that can be utilized by the Department 617 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:40,260 of Public Health for medical shelter sites if needed. We also communicate regularly with our 618 00:56:40,260 --> 00:56:46,620 local hospitals, nursing homes and other local agencies to ensure a coordinated response. 619 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:58,360 What's amazing is the volunteer outreach that's occurred and I'll share with you that many in our community may be wondering how they can get involved and help our community during this difficult time. 620 00:56:58,820 --> 00:57:01,480 Our warming shelter operator is in need of assistance. 621 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:08,100 Assistance volunteers are needed in a variety of capacities like meal prep, mentoring, and much more. 622 00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:14,680 For those volunteers interested, there's information available where they can contact us on our website. 623 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:23,280 Again, at Victorville CA, Ford slash coronavirus, where we can make connections there to get our volunteers connected. 624 00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:43,300 One thing that I think is fairly cool and it's something that I'm very proud of that our team has been able to put together, especially as the rules have changed so dramatically on a daily basis, really, with respect to who can operate, how certain businesses can operate, 625 00:57:43,300 --> 00:57:49,100 who should shut down. We've conducted a business survey of our local business. 626 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:54,800 We've reached out to an additional 426 businesses to promote awareness and 627 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,680 compliance with state county orders directing their closure or operational 628 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:04,900 modifications. The second round of outreach has been focused on salons, barbershops, 629 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,660 massage parlors, and smoke shops. The first round of outreach was to restaurants, 630 00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:13,460 restaurants, bars, and nightclubs, movie theaters, gyms, and fitness studios. 631 00:58:14,220 --> 00:58:20,020 And as of April 6th, we have outreach to a total of 785 local businesses. 632 00:58:20,740 --> 00:58:24,040 And I'll share with you that, as we've done that, 633 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,720 we've done that in such a way as to promote and encourage compliance, 634 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,700 as opposed to the perception that may be out there that we're out there shutting people down. 635 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:34,720 We are not. 636 00:58:35,260 --> 00:58:39,080 We're actually using this as an opportunity for our code enforcement folks 637 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,040 and our inspection personnel that's helping out as well to actually make good connections 638 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,640 with our business so that of course once this is all set and done and we're done with 639 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:53,340 the pandemic, we have a relationship there to build upon and so we've really been encouraging 640 00:58:53,340 --> 00:58:58,120 compliance in from our business community. It's fairly impressive just the amount of 641 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:03,200 voluntary compliance that we have and the one thing that we've done to bring life to 642 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:11,700 this as we've actually created, we actually store in real-time data on our GIS system. 643 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:18,700 Actual status of what businesses are open and which businesses are operating in compliance, 644 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,080 which ones are not. So we actually have real-time data because of those efforts. 645 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:30,020 Interestingly, and it's gained some news out at the airport, but due to the economic slowdown, 646 00:59:30,020 --> 00:59:35,340 Delta and Southwest Airlines have requested parking space in SELA, and we've 647 00:59:35,340 --> 00:59:40,120 seen a total of 75-year-round in aircraft that have been accommodating the 648 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:47,040 airlines and the businesses out at the airport to fulfill the needing for a 649 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,480 place to locate all of those airplanes. The silver lining in this story is that 650 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:56,240 ComAbb, which is one of our valued tenants out at SELA, is a company servicing 651 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,980 these grounded planes. They're seeing an influx in business. In fact, it's 652 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,800 I'm out has been able to retain all of its employees during this time and higher employees that were laid off by other airport tenant companies. Despite the pandemic, 653 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:35,940 One of the things that we did do just to accommodate the aviation airline industry is we actually 654 01:00:35,940 --> 01:00:43,360 did shut down one of our two runways, runway 321 as shut down to effectively serve as a parking 655 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:53,220 location. We've actually modified our customer service relative to utility shutoffs. 656 01:00:59,140 --> 01:00:59,980 We've 657 01:00:59,980 --> 01:01:07,800 institute any utility shut-offs and really that's intended to make it easier on 658 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:13,680 those that are affected negatively by this pandemic. And then finally we manage 659 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:19,880 so much of our communications through our website and through social media and 660 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,580 I would encourage you as a council and certainly the public that's on the phone 661 01:01:23,580 --> 01:01:28,840 because there's so much evolving on a daily basis, so much changing whether 662 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:35,620 Whether it's our website at victoryvillca.gov forward slash coronavirus or our Facebook, Twitter 663 01:01:35,620 --> 01:01:36,300 or Instagram. 664 01:01:36,300 --> 01:01:41,120 We're posting information there daily just on the changing environment and landscape 665 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:41,980 that we're dealing with. 666 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:48,520 And I know it was a lot and it was a mouthful to throw action, but that's really the update 667 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:53,860 that I have to offer that has occurred since we actually drafted the update for you that's 668 01:01:53,860 --> 01:01:55,840 in the staff report on March 26th. 669 01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:01,500 So, I'm available, and certainly members of the EOC section team are available as well 670 01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:02,900 for any questions you have. 671 01:02:04,700 --> 01:02:06,540 Councilmember Cawks, do you have any questions? 672 01:02:10,850 --> 01:02:12,490 Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions? 673 01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:15,950 Yes, just one. 674 01:02:16,810 --> 01:02:22,310 I noticed that we're doing a lot for the homeless, but I'm thinking about our senior community 675 01:02:22,310 --> 01:02:28,310 and a lot of times our seniors aren't able to get out or drive themselves, are we taking 676 01:02:28,310 --> 01:02:29,990 any steps to lean into them. 677 01:02:38,730 --> 01:02:43,670 Sophie Smith, who is serving as the EOC director, I can let her address them. 678 01:02:44,410 --> 01:02:51,430 Yes, Council Member Jones, Mayor and Council, we do have staff that are constantly working with our local nonprofits. 679 01:02:52,850 --> 01:03:01,310 We already had established relationships with those that provide services to seniors via our CDBG program. 680 01:03:01,710 --> 01:03:05,650 And so our staff is in constant communication with those providers. 681 01:03:06,230 --> 01:03:14,430 to make sure that they have what they need as well as I believe there's a dedicated section on our website as well. 682 01:03:15,110 --> 01:03:18,110 So we are attending to that vulnerable population as well. 683 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,760 Perfect. Thank you. That's all I have. Madam Clerk. 684 01:03:23,900 --> 01:03:26,200 Council Member Gomez, do you have any questions? 685 01:03:29,780 --> 01:03:31,420 For the COVID-19, right? 686 01:03:31,860 --> 01:03:32,020 Correct. 687 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,100 Well, I had a couple of things that I wanted to. 688 01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:42,140 I spoke with Keith earlier as questions and I think it's merit for at least some of it 689 01:03:42,460 --> 01:03:47,260 to be released to the public who watches us through different means. 690 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,780 And one of the questions was that personally as a council member and the public servant 691 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:57,800 I was feeling disconnected in terms of what my city was doing despite the fact that I did 692 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:05,560 get numerous tech about COVID-19 and the homeless issue and the EOC in preparation of 693 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:13,500 doing a couple of things, but notwithstanding that what was happening was this information 694 01:04:13,500 --> 01:04:21,100 was not feeling the gap for me to be able to fill up the gap for my community as a whole. 695 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:26,320 So the marketing, although it's allowed that the city of Vickerville is doing and I found 696 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:32,660 that out today, it's not being marketed and as a council member, I think our community 697 01:04:32,660 --> 01:04:38,620 so disconnected as well and how will we bridging that and how can we work towards something 698 01:04:38,620 --> 01:04:44,240 to bring the community up close or kind of like LA, does the Kumo does it over there in 699 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:48,800 New York, I mean the president is doing it at the mass level but our local city seems 700 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:54,540 to be very disconnected just getting the influx of information from outsourced information 701 01:04:54,540 --> 01:04:56,760 and not within the bounds of the city of Victorville. 702 01:04:59,470 --> 01:05:01,870 And Madam Mayor and members of the council, 703 01:05:02,290 --> 01:05:06,630 one of the things that I did share with councilmember Gomez, 704 01:05:06,970 --> 01:05:08,850 notwithstanding all that we've done. 705 01:05:09,090 --> 01:05:11,110 And I actually have to give a lot of credit 706 01:05:11,110 --> 01:05:16,050 to our public information team because in my opinion, 707 01:05:16,730 --> 01:05:19,090 which is based upon what I've directly seen, 708 01:05:19,210 --> 01:05:22,230 they've gone above and beyond in terms 709 01:05:22,230 --> 01:05:24,110 of communicating our message. 710 01:05:24,110 --> 01:05:33,070 I think in comparison though in relative to some of the examples councilmember Gomez gave I 711 01:05:33,070 --> 01:05:41,330 will share with you that our role is slightly different than some of those big cities or states 712 01:05:41,330 --> 01:05:45,330 or the national government with the president. 713 01:05:45,330 --> 01:05:52,050 We, as a city, are largely focused on our local residents. 714 01:05:52,530 --> 01:05:55,130 We don't have a public health director, for example. 715 01:05:55,470 --> 01:06:03,570 So we're not in a position where we've got to speak daily to provide clarity to all of 716 01:06:03,570 --> 01:06:05,150 the regulations we just created. 717 01:06:05,290 --> 01:06:06,590 We're not creating regulations. 718 01:06:06,810 --> 01:06:07,650 We're not in that role. 719 01:06:07,650 --> 01:06:19,490 So that compared to say the mayor in Los Angeles, again, our role is different given the type of responsibility and resource that we have. 720 01:06:19,810 --> 01:06:31,650 So I certainly believe what we've done is fairly impressive, not only in terms of response but in terms of how we've actually communicated the public. 721 01:06:31,650 --> 01:06:34,770 And one thing that you're privileged to, 722 01:06:36,820 --> 01:06:39,740 I could share with the public, is of course 723 01:06:39,740 --> 01:06:46,200 when things are happening in real time, I'm fairly regular in texting you and sharing 724 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:51,680 with you information that ultimately gets released to our social media masses. 725 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,540 So with that, I would say that I believe we're doing a lot. 726 01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:03,080 It may be different than what you see on Channel 7, because I would compare our role as being 727 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:09,000 dramatically different than a big city or a state or or even the federal government. 728 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:09,960 So hopefully that helps. 729 01:07:10,380 --> 01:07:13,560 Keith, if I can add to that, is it 730 01:07:16,050 --> 01:07:17,110 okay to add to that mayor? 731 01:07:20,910 --> 01:07:21,370 Yeah. 732 01:07:23,970 --> 01:07:31,770 Your PIO is on the line and we actually have a tool that we use that helps measure what 733 01:07:31,770 --> 01:07:39,620 kind of discourse and the sentiment of the community and where the majority of information 734 01:07:39,620 --> 01:07:46,260 is coming from on COVID from the community and our PIO monitors that daily so 735 01:07:46,260 --> 01:07:53,460 Sue Jones I think you're on because we are taking the pulse of the community via 736 01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:59,080 Zen City can you just share a little insight into what your what your dad is 737 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,380 showing you as far as our community response and our role in that? 738 01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:06,210 Sure I'd be 739 01:08:06,210 --> 01:08:13,350 I'd be happy to just to add to what our Deputy City Manager, Sophie, just mentioned. 740 01:08:13,570 --> 01:08:20,250 We do use N City, which is a monitoring tool that basically collects mention of the City 741 01:08:20,250 --> 01:08:28,410 of Victorville in a multitude of online resources that could be news outlets, social media, blogs, 742 01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:34,750 et cetera, and it compiles not only mention of the City, but gives a sentiment rating to 743 01:08:34,750 --> 01:08:42,090 it, and it uses analytics to also, you can see how much of the information is coming from 744 01:08:42,090 --> 01:08:48,310 official sources, meaning the city, how much of the discussion is coming from unofficial 745 01:08:48,310 --> 01:08:52,750 sources, et cetera, and we have been looking at it very carefully. 746 01:08:53,430 --> 01:09:01,890 It also is divided by topic, so it could be the city communication about COVID-19 versus 747 01:09:03,940 --> 01:09:10,720 medical issues, or community outreach, or assistance, etc. 748 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,400 And our analytics are trending very positively. 749 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:24,980 We've gotten very positive ratings, like 23%, positive, and a mere 6% negative, 750 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:32,560 with our city response and our overall communication to the public related to COVID-19, 751 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:38,660 which from my experience in using the tool for over a year now, that's a very positive rating. 752 01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:47,120 Looking at just the city response, it's trending very positive 753 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:51,420 when we're talking about city communication and outreach to the community. 754 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,500 Again, that's trending at about 23% positive as well. 755 01:09:58,850 --> 01:10:03,150 If you want more specifics looking at different topics, 756 01:10:03,950 --> 01:10:12,400 We could say the releases have gone and gotten about 9,000 percent or 9,000 interactions. 757 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:20,940 So when we declared an emergency, for example, 7,000 interactions to place, just on that one topic, 758 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,660 looking at some of the others that are high. 759 01:10:25,420 --> 01:10:32,520 Some of the information about our firefighters that trended up to about 9,000 interactions on social media. 760 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:33,240 We 761 01:10:35,890 --> 01:10:42,170 have a lot of this course happening in the community and I would just you know encourage 762 01:10:42,170 --> 01:10:48,110 people to follow us. We're out on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter and we're not only talking 763 01:10:48,110 --> 01:10:55,570 about what the city is doing but we're also sharing advice, helpful resources that are 764 01:10:58,710 --> 01:10:59,290 as well 765 01:10:59,290 --> 01:11:01,290 a state CDC resource 766 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:10,900 specifically for COVID-19 at VictorvilleCA.gov slash coronavirus. 767 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,240 And there we have a multitude of resources. 768 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:20,620 We have some that are targeting just business assistance for businesses that may be encountering 769 01:11:20,620 --> 01:11:22,520 some challenges, financial aid system 770 01:11:26,710 --> 01:11:27,290 advice, 771 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,800 specific response to the city level, such as 772 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:34,340 our outreach. 773 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:40,180 Okay. 774 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:41,820 Thank you for the information. 775 01:11:41,820 --> 01:11:45,240 which draws me to two more questions to ask. 776 01:11:45,340 --> 01:11:48,120 Are these methods only used to do technological tools? 777 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,460 We know that there is a digital divide 778 01:11:50,460 --> 01:11:53,240 in America for the purpose of this question. 779 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,400 And has the city considered other means 780 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,180 besides technology and what is it 781 01:11:57,180 --> 01:11:59,640 that America propensives in this tool 782 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,340 that are garnering for the average 130,000 residents 783 01:12:02,340 --> 01:12:03,340 in the city of Victorville? 784 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:04,340 In other words, I'm just saying, 785 01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:07,760 let's not forget that, yes, we are using technology, 786 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,480 but a lot of individuals probably more than half 787 01:12:11,480 --> 01:12:14,300 of our populations is not connected or doesn't have a mean. 788 01:12:14,580 --> 01:12:19,860 So we're relying on probably a lot of the millennials who are more technologically savvy 789 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:26,040 and probably individuals who use technology to outsource this information and hopefully 790 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,620 it's dwindled down to how much individuals are hearing. 791 01:12:31,060 --> 01:12:35,800 And so that is why I'm asking the question not to clear that victimhood isn't doing anything 792 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:36,620 great because it is. 793 01:12:36,780 --> 01:12:41,340 I'm just also trying to capture that there's other ways or other categories that we 794 01:12:41,340 --> 01:12:47,640 perhaps 50 missing, but although we're catching probably 100% of one aspect of a sub-copy. 795 01:12:48,260 --> 01:12:49,780 But I appreciate it. 796 01:12:53,460 --> 01:12:55,360 Mayor Pro Temmer, Maris, do you have any questions? 797 01:12:59,180 --> 01:13:06,420 I simply would like to say that I thanks our city manager and his staff and all the volunteers 798 01:13:06,420 --> 01:13:14,080 that have helped in this crisis and I am so proud of being a part of it and I thank you for the 799 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:19,780 information chief. It was wonderful and excellent to know that we are doing the 800 01:13:19,780 --> 01:13:25,760 Q and and your staff are doing such a good job to benefit our residents. Thank 801 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,580 you so much. God bless you. 802 01:13:30,860 --> 01:13:34,380 Thank you. Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions? 803 01:13:37,870 --> 01:13:41,970 I know I don't have any questions but I also would like to say thank you to 804 01:13:41,970 --> 01:13:46,530 for city managers, and to staff, and to be sure, 805 01:13:46,930 --> 01:13:51,750 and to everyone involved in everything that they have done, 806 01:13:51,970 --> 01:13:53,390 you know, within our city. 807 01:13:54,490 --> 01:13:59,010 And by keeping the public informed of all the development 808 01:13:59,010 --> 01:14:01,030 that's taken place within our city, 809 01:14:01,490 --> 01:14:05,910 regarding the COVID-19, not only does the list somewhere else, 810 01:14:05,910 --> 01:14:10,390 but it's just been, oh, you know, that this will be, 811 01:14:10,390 --> 01:14:16,550 We can actually put an answer there, you know, I have heard from some of you for you 812 01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:22,830 just to be very true that seated, for everything that they seated that seated is doing 813 01:14:23,430 --> 01:14:27,490 to combat this crisis that we have, you know. 814 01:14:28,090 --> 01:14:30,010 And I just want to say thank you. 815 01:14:30,130 --> 01:14:34,350 I know there has been so many hours and so much work involved here. 816 01:14:35,270 --> 01:14:42,830 And sometimes we forget to be thankful for those that really do go out and do more than 817 01:14:42,830 --> 01:14:48,250 like a part of the crime and at the risk of crime and our first responders risk in their 818 01:14:48,250 --> 01:14:48,610 life. 819 01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:56,190 Just trying to take life, whether it means risking theirs, I just want to say thank you to 820 01:14:56,190 --> 01:14:57,270 everyone. 821 01:14:57,270 --> 01:14:59,930 one, other place you and next, thank you. 822 01:15:07,650 --> 01:15:08,110 Thank 823 01:15:10,250 --> 01:15:24,330 you, Council, and I just have to say thank you to my team. You've got a good team here. They've got good ideas. They work well together and they certainly accomplish a lot. We couldn't do it without the rest of the rest of the team on this. 824 01:15:31,220 --> 01:15:34,980 I'm going to check to see if there's anyone on the line that would like to speak on this. 825 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,280 I have a question 826 01:15:40,900 --> 01:15:43,720 if it was a time for questions. 827 01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,720 I didn't know that we weren't going to have a separate time if we would do for comments. 828 01:15:47,900 --> 01:15:49,840 So since others have, I would like that opportunity. 829 01:15:50,700 --> 01:15:53,340 I can't after the public comment. 830 01:15:53,340 --> 01:15:54,300 When 831 01:16:01,180 --> 01:16:04,900 it was time for asking questions, I asked questions and didn't make comments knowing 832 01:16:04,900 --> 01:16:09,620 that that normally comes later as a separate delivery. 833 01:16:09,620 --> 01:16:09,920 It does. 834 01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:13,480 So I'd like to at least have an opportunity to make comments. 835 01:16:15,340 --> 01:16:16,340 So I 836 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:25,960 just echoed a sentiment of all of my colleagues and I would like to add to that too, that 837 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:32,300 I'm very, very proud of the way that Keith Metzler is the executive team and all of our other 838 01:16:32,300 --> 01:16:38,500 employees have collaborated and worked cooperatively to produce what comes across as very admirable 839 01:16:38,500 --> 01:16:47,760 results that we see today. And I'm particularly proud that this city makes its employees a priority 840 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:54,160 after that. When they're safe and well, our community gets the benefit of greater assistances and 841 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:55,860 protection. Thank you Madam Clerk. 842 01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:03,300 And then my, I actually made a, I actually asked the question. 843 01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:10,820 And there was an answer. So there was a excuse to be a comment. It wasn't. I was asking how many 844 01:17:10,820 --> 01:17:16,200 other tools this I've technology was being used. So please don't take my question as a comment, 845 01:17:16,460 --> 01:17:21,280 as it was a question, but it was just not answered. And I still have a comment for the comment section. 846 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:21,340 Yeah. 847 01:17:29,030 --> 01:17:31,770 I don't think we have time to continue today. 848 01:17:34,380 --> 01:17:37,540 Yes, I have Sophie Smith is here. 849 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:47,600 So the primary communication tools to answer the question have been social media, website, 850 01:17:48,620 --> 01:18:00,440 you know, I wish we had the time to make calls out to a lot of people, we just don't, we 851 01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:06,700 and lengthy reassuring message to all of the residents of the city and businesses that 852 01:18:06,700 --> 01:18:11,780 is on our landing page of the website, which was very well received according to our 853 01:18:12,380 --> 01:18:13,380 insight on that. 854 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:19,680 So, you know, between the video and what we could with technology, there's actual, you 855 01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:25,780 know, press releases that we've done, so, you know, that goes to print media, etc. 856 01:18:25,780 --> 01:18:32,180 other than that I'm not really sure of any other practical ways that we could 857 01:18:32,180 --> 01:18:36,480 do more outreach but we're absolutely welcome to anyone's ideas on what we 858 01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:39,160 can do additional to that. 859 01:18:44,110 --> 01:18:48,330 Thank you. Okay I'm going to check on the line to see 860 01:18:48,330 --> 01:18:52,050 if there's anyone who would like to speak on this item. Is there any public that 861 01:18:52,050 --> 01:18:57,990 wishes to speak at this time on this item number 12? Yes, Valentina I would 862 01:18:57,990 --> 01:18:58,630 like to speak. 863 01:18:59,390 --> 01:19:01,530 All right, Valentin, you have three minutes. 864 01:19:05,610 --> 01:19:08,950 I didn't know that we were back having meetings, 865 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:16,280 but this form of having meetings to stay 866 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:19,400 in contact with the pub 867 01:19:23,470 --> 01:19:28,490 that are eating that food because we cannot afford to have to be 868 01:19:28,490 --> 01:19:30,010 connected into the internet. 869 01:19:33,340 --> 01:19:34,060 Then our text, 870 01:19:46,370 --> 01:19:48,430 yes, they are doing everything they can, 871 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,340 shouldn't be able to, we can and we 872 01:20:05,340 --> 01:20:05,520 should. 873 01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:06,720 But we always, 874 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,040 I did not know that we were testing of 875 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:20,240 a 876 01:20:23,060 --> 01:20:24,140 street vendor. 877 01:20:24,460 --> 01:20:26,740 I had to walk over there and find out what was going on. 878 01:20:31,230 --> 01:20:32,270 The city or 879 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:45,140 on Facebook are plotting this great event that they get. 880 01:20:45,300 --> 01:20:47,660 And it was a great event and they deserve to be a flood. 881 01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:52,560 It's deserved to be notified because it is our lives. 882 01:21:08,700 --> 01:21:11,280 Is there anyone else that would like to speak on this item? 883 01:21:16,300 --> 01:21:18,560 Hi Paul, you have three minutes please. 884 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,240 It's going to be very brief but good evening everybody. 885 01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,080 I'm glad to hear everybody. Now the 886 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:27,100 airbites are going very well. 887 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:31,160 Yes, 888 01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,580 dates on COVID-19, COVID-19, 889 01:21:34,700 --> 01:21:35,220 good 890 01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,660 reason. They must wear a 891 01:21:55,710 --> 01:21:56,770 fine up. 892 01:22:02,830 --> 01:22:03,270 Council, 893 01:22:08,740 --> 01:22:10,080 this afternoon I believe it 894 01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,900 was. So that's a fairly recent one, 895 01:22:12,060 --> 01:22:14,340 but yes, my understanding is that the 896 01:22:14,340 --> 01:22:15,920 directive from the county health 897 01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,580 director came out today requiring. 898 01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,760 Now everybody that leaves their house 899 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,960 has to wear a mask. Now as far as the 900 01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,960 penalties, I'm not exactly sure, but 901 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:30,440 Sophie is shaking her head and saying yes they could be fine you could be 902 01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:38,190 fine as much as a thousand dollars okay that one just came out today I just 903 01:22:38,190 --> 01:22:42,270 saw it on face yes I just saw it on Facebook and I just you know I know that 904 01:22:42,270 --> 01:22:43,350 they're is 905 01:22:58,330 --> 01:23:01,390 there anyone else on the line that would like to speak on this item 906 01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:15,110 may I think those are all the speakers I have this item was presented with no 907 01:23:15,110 --> 01:23:18,850 action required so this was for the information purposes only but I do believe 908 01:23:18,850 --> 01:23:22,630 there was still comments that council members wanted to make. 909 01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:27,620 So council member Cox did you have 910 01:23:27,620 --> 01:23:28,400 any further comments? 911 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,800 The comment period is five minutes. 912 01:23:51,060 --> 01:23:53,220 Okay council member Jones do you have any 913 01:23:53,220 --> 01:23:54,540 further comments? For 914 01:23:56,940 --> 01:24:01,560 asking I do not. Council member Gomez do you have any comments? 915 01:24:03,940 --> 01:24:05,100 Yes I want to 916 01:24:05,100 --> 01:24:19,660 My colleagues are allowing this agenda items to go through when there was motion and setting all personal issues aside, I really am appreciative of it going through and with COVID-19, I'd like to know if we can get back to partner with outside sources. 917 01:24:20,340 --> 01:24:33,720 I know we have some partnerships, but the partnerships that I'm asking to see if it's adjusted with entities, organizations, social media outlets, news sources, and anything else possible to have council report out. 918 01:24:34,860 --> 01:24:36,820 and become that space of the community, 919 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:41,100 because as you can see, a lot of the public comment, 920 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,760 if we were to have a formula, 921 01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:45,720 and we only had five commentaries, 922 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:49,380 that one person is seeking for a significant amount 923 01:24:49,380 --> 01:24:51,260 of individual, and it's so strongly 924 01:24:51,260 --> 01:24:53,660 that the space is not out there, 925 01:24:54,020 --> 01:24:55,900 and the representatives are being blamed, 926 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,240 hence I'm being blamed for not being out there, 927 01:24:59,980 --> 01:25:02,060 showing space, I think there's a merit 928 01:25:02,060 --> 01:25:10,860 to that discussion. As I said, if the community feels rest out, perhaps you can have some voluntary 929 01:25:10,860 --> 01:25:17,360 protocols perhaps I can do practice. I would hope that perhaps there's an uplining number 930 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,180 at 24.7. 931 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:27,540 And I as a public servant have felt a bit disconnected myself. But what the city 932 01:25:27,540 --> 01:25:31,080 has been doing, but please don't take this as anything. The city has not done anything. 933 01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:35,560 that's not what I'm saying. And the council members are privileged luckily to have a 934 01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:40,280 cell phone number of city operatives, however the community is not. So this is a way 935 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:45,700 to cut it. Let's see what we can if we are able to do anything with the 936 01:25:45,700 --> 01:25:51,380 confines of what we have in limited resources. Thank you. Mayor Pro Temmer, 937 01:25:51,460 --> 01:25:52,740 Mayor, do you have any further comments? 938 01:25:56,340 --> 01:25:58,640 No. Mayor Garcia, do you have any further 939 01:25:58,640 --> 01:25:59,040 comments? 940 01:26:02,250 --> 01:26:05,610 No, thank you. I don't. Okay. There was no action required. This was 941 01:26:05,610 --> 01:26:08,730 just to receive and file, so we can move on to number 13. 942 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:17,220 This is that the City Council approve and amendment number two to the consultant professional 943 01:26:17,220 --> 01:26:21,420 services provider agreement with Albert Grover and associates by an account. 944 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:27,560 I'm sorry, an amount not to exceed of $125,000 for traffic engineering services. 945 01:26:29,620 --> 01:26:32,160 Go ahead and ask council members if they have questions. 946 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,020 Council member Cox, do you have any questions? 947 01:26:37,290 --> 01:26:42,930 Yes, I understand that all the funds will be coming from Fund No. 250, which is Measure I, is that correct? 948 01:26:50,830 --> 01:26:52,830 Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions? 949 01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:56,880 I have none, thank you. 950 01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,080 Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions? 951 01:27:03,260 --> 01:27:13,400 What I'm looking at is this topic engineering services also in part of the street lighting for old town and other priority areas around the city? 952 01:27:16,850 --> 01:27:18,630 Ryan Gangler is our city engineer. 953 01:27:18,630 --> 01:27:20,330 Mayor, he drafted this item. 954 01:27:20,490 --> 01:27:25,830 He's probably the best one to answer that question and explain better what this contract 955 01:27:25,830 --> 01:27:26,210 is for. 956 01:27:31,550 --> 01:27:32,130 The City Council. 957 01:28:33,990 --> 01:28:34,270 Thank you. 958 01:28:34,370 --> 01:28:34,990 No further questions. 959 01:28:36,630 --> 01:28:37,550 Mayor Pro Temer. 960 01:28:37,610 --> 01:28:38,650 Mayor, do you have any questions? 961 01:28:42,060 --> 01:28:42,540 No, I don't. 962 01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:43,300 Thank you. 963 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,680 Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions? 964 01:28:48,950 --> 01:28:49,710 Not for anything. 965 01:28:50,810 --> 01:28:53,630 I'll check to see if there's any public that wishes to speak. 966 01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:57,050 Is there anyone that would like to speak on this item number 13? 967 01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:04,700 Okay, Valentin, you have three minutes. 968 01:29:06,980 --> 01:29:08,680 Okay, I'm seeing here that we're $1 969 01:29:11,470 --> 01:29:18,640 ,000 or not to exceed an amount already issued of $260,000. 970 01:29:20,930 --> 01:29:21,790 Is this correct? 971 01:29:33,620 --> 01:29:34,120 That's a study. 972 01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:42,740 That's Slur. 973 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,360 Whereas our city engineer, he might have a better sense. 974 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:51,180 I'm not exactly sure he would have done that analysis as it relates to this contract. 975 01:29:51,180 --> 01:29:56,800 This is more directly related to just maintaining our existing service levels. 976 01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:58,620 with Brian and you offer something on that. 977 01:30:01,420 --> 01:30:07,080 I haven't done a comparison to other cities. I know there are a number of cities that use an 978 01:30:09,550 --> 01:30:10,450 in-house in 979 01:30:29,710 --> 01:30:30,490 many years. 980 01:30:58,410 --> 01:31:03,430 I thank you for that explanation. I'm not looking to reinvent the wheel. I'm looking to our 981 01:31:05,450 --> 01:31:10,090 sizes so that we have a smooth right here in 982 01:31:12,260 --> 01:31:17,480 the city and how you've done this the same way for many years. I appreciate your hard work. 983 01:31:22,890 --> 01:31:24,410 The same level for 984 01:31:26,750 --> 01:31:31,510 the same amount of money that other cities are getting for 985 01:31:31,510 --> 01:31:33,970 for their same studies and their same service. 986 01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:42,070 We can compare other cities are getting. 987 01:31:42,270 --> 01:31:44,750 Is that in your realm of operation? 988 01:31:57,700 --> 01:31:58,760 Your realm of operation? 989 01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:12,960 This is public comment for the particular agenda item. 990 01:32:13,060 --> 01:32:16,860 I mean, we can continue to dialogue if you're okay with it, 991 01:32:16,940 --> 01:32:18,920 but I think we can answer the question. 992 01:32:22,700 --> 01:32:23,660 Question with the answer. 993 01:32:24,580 --> 01:32:25,840 I think we're given 994 01:32:27,980 --> 01:32:28,780 level of, 995 01:32:32,780 --> 01:32:34,460 we're not comparing to other people. 996 01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:34,700 For 997 01:32:46,220 --> 01:32:47,400 everybody on the phones, 998 01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:50,980 No matter which line of Iran, can you mute your phones? 999 01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:05,680 Valentina, let's have another question. 1000 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:07,360 Everybody 1001 01:33:10,980 --> 01:33:13,260 felt that the question was answered. 1002 01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:13,900 Okay. 1003 01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:15,340 I would like to have 1004 01:33:20,590 --> 01:33:25,010 this because I didn't understand the answer. 1005 01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:31,400 He could not give us a comparison and I don't think that's fair to less tax. 1006 01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:43,100 Okay, is there any other speakers I would like to speak on this item? 1007 01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:44,360 there is 1008 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:47,660 someone okay 1009 01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:56,240 okay there's no more speaker so Madam Mayor if you 1010 01:33:56,240 --> 01:34:08,360 would like to request a motion in a second I have 1011 01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,880 a motion by council member 1012 01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:22,020 Cox seconded by council member Jones is there any further comments by 1013 01:34:22,020 --> 01:34:23,680 All right, Council Member Cox, do you have comments? 1014 01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:25,840 Yes, 1015 01:34:48,260 --> 01:34:48,960 you can't compare 1016 01:35:23,970 --> 01:35:25,250 the interstate running through the 1017 01:35:29,020 --> 01:35:29,160 hills 1018 01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:30,780 would be almost impossible to find, 1019 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:34,680 but it'd 1020 01:35:39,550 --> 01:35:40,230 be a waste of time. 1021 01:35:50,330 --> 01:35:51,870 Council Member Gomez, do you have any? 1022 01:35:51,950 --> 01:35:53,190 Thank you. 1023 01:35:53,390 --> 01:35:55,190 Council Member Gomez, do you have any further comments? 1024 01:35:57,670 --> 01:36:00,110 Yes, so looking at this item with 125, 1025 01:36:00,110 --> 01:36:03,250 with an extension of the contract, 1026 01:36:03,730 --> 01:36:07,190 I know my colleagues at least abuse, 1027 01:36:07,190 --> 01:36:13,290 meaning two are interested in getting feedback in the priorities of the street lighting because 1028 01:36:13,290 --> 01:36:18,610 we haven't had anything thus far and this seems to be the closest thing as proximal to 1029 01:36:18,610 --> 01:36:22,370 getting any feedback from what's happening with the five different zones although one 1030 01:36:22,370 --> 01:36:29,890 has been being worked on so I could suggest on behalf of a majority of us to see something 1031 01:36:29,890 --> 01:36:33,970 of that level whether it's a memo format or a police exclamation what's happening to 1032 01:36:33,970 --> 01:36:39,510 of their own. It would be greatly appreciated if one of the things I am in the City of 1033 01:36:39,510 --> 01:36:43,570 China isn't really starting here. So if I know where the light is on, I'll turn them 1034 01:36:43,570 --> 01:36:47,730 on, but someone could just tell me where the light is coming from, and if not, don't worry 1035 01:36:47,730 --> 01:36:51,330 about it, I guess the meeting is going to be over soon anyway, so I just want to make sure 1036 01:36:51,330 --> 01:36:52,370 you guys can hear that. Thank you. 1037 01:36:57,290 --> 01:36:58,750 Councilmember Jones, do you have any comments? 1038 01:37:02,140 --> 01:37:05,860 I have none. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Mayor Pro Temmer, Mayor's, do you have any comments? 1039 01:37:15,860 --> 01:37:21,460 Thank you, I do have a motion by Councilmember Cox and a second by Councilmember Jones. 1040 01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:23,880 All those in favor? Councilmember Cox? 1041 01:37:25,220 --> 01:37:25,940 Yes. 1042 01:37:26,540 --> 01:37:27,520 Councilmember Gomez? 1043 01:37:29,430 --> 01:37:30,050 Aye. 1044 01:37:30,850 --> 01:37:31,910 Councilmember Jones? 1045 01:37:35,170 --> 01:37:36,490 Mayor Pro Temer-Mirrors? 1046 01:37:40,270 --> 01:37:40,890 Mayor Garcia? 1047 01:37:44,940 --> 01:37:46,120 Motion passes unanimously. 1048 01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:47,320 Now 1049 01:37:51,800 --> 01:38:06,320 we are on to item 14 that the Southern California Logistics Airport Authority grant an access easement for the benefit of the parcel designated as APN 0460-242-05. 1050 01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:13,640 Madam Mayor, I'll ask questions of council members, council member Cox. Do you have any questions? 1051 01:38:15,860 --> 01:38:16,120 No. 1052 01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:25,540 So councilmember Jones do you have any questions no thank you councilmember Gomez do you have any questions 1053 01:38:29,620 --> 01:38:33,120 Mayor pro. Tim Ramirez do you have any questions no 1054 01:38:35,420 --> 01:38:38,060 mayor Garcia do you have any questions 1055 01:38:41,630 --> 01:38:46,250 Okay, I'll ask to see if there's any public on this on the phone 1056 01:38:46,250 --> 01:38:49,710 Is there anyone that would like to speak on this item number 14? 1057 01:38:54,350 --> 01:38:58,850 There's no one that wishes to speak Madam Mayor if you would like the motion in a second. 1058 01:39:02,220 --> 01:39:05,100 I request a motion in a second for item 14. 1059 01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:09,960 I was invited to stop with me to make motion as recommended by staff. 1060 01:39:12,050 --> 01:39:12,430 Second. 1061 01:39:13,690 --> 01:39:19,090 To have a motion by Council Member Gomez, seconded by Mayor Garcia, all those in favor? 1062 01:39:19,930 --> 01:39:20,550 Council Member Cox? 1063 01:39:21,390 --> 01:39:21,890 Aye. 1064 01:39:21,890 --> 01:39:22,790 Aye. 1065 01:39:23,730 --> 01:39:24,570 Council Member Gomez. 1066 01:39:26,590 --> 01:39:26,990 Aye. 1067 01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:28,370 Council Member Jones. 1068 01:39:29,850 --> 01:39:30,650 Aye. 1069 01:39:31,530 --> 01:39:32,530 Mayor Pro Temer-Meras. 1070 01:39:36,430 --> 01:39:37,230 And Mayor Garcia, 1071 01:39:41,820 --> 01:39:43,580 that motion passes unanimously. 1072 01:39:45,550 --> 01:39:46,150 Thank you. 1073 01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,060 Toronto Item Number 15. 1074 01:39:52,500 --> 01:39:56,100 The consideration of a settlement agreement between the city, 1075 01:39:56,420 --> 01:39:59,480 the Victorville Water District and Western Pacific Housing, 1076 01:39:59,480 --> 01:40:06,400 D.R. Horton and various prior and current owners of track 14721 to establish ownership 1077 01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:11,200 and an application of prepaid water meter and connection fee for said track. 1078 01:40:12,150 --> 01:40:16,400 The recommendation is that the City Council and Board of Directors approve the attached 1079 01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:20,360 settlement agreement for execution by the Mayor and District Chairman. 1080 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:26,240 Mayor, I'll go ahead and ask if there's any questions of council members. 1081 01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:34,080 Members? Councilmember Cox, do you have any questions? No questions. Councilmember Jones, 1082 01:40:34,420 --> 01:40:35,120 do you have any questions? 1083 01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:40,680 No thank you. Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions. 1084 01:40:42,620 --> 01:40:46,300 No thank you. Mayor Proto-Mermaris, do you have any questions? 1085 01:40:49,390 --> 01:40:51,770 No thank you. Mayor Garcia, 1086 01:40:52,070 --> 01:40:52,850 do you have any questions? 1087 01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:59,140 No questions. All right. Let me see if there is anyone on the 1088 01:40:59,140 --> 01:41:05,080 phone that has wants to speak on this item? Is there anyone on the phone that would like to speak on this item? 1089 01:41:05,440 --> 01:41:06,360 Number 15, 1090 01:41:10,510 --> 01:41:14,910 I don't hear anyone, so Madam Mayor, if you would like a motion? 1091 01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:21,760 I'm requesting a motion in a second for item 15. 1092 01:41:23,220 --> 01:41:29,340 Yes, Madam Mayor, I move that the City Council and Board of Directors approve the settlement agreement 1093 01:41:37,060 --> 01:41:43,020 I have a motion by Councilmember Jones, seconded by Councilmember Gomez, all those in 1094 01:41:43,020 --> 01:41:43,340 favor? 1095 01:41:43,780 --> 01:41:44,420 Councilmember Cox? 1096 01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:48,500 Councilmember Gomez? 1097 01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:50,960 Aye. 1098 01:41:51,540 --> 01:41:52,480 Councilmember Jones, 1099 01:41:55,860 --> 01:41:57,060 Mayor Pro Temmer, Maris, 1100 01:42:00,700 --> 01:42:01,380 Mayor Garcia. 1101 01:42:05,300 --> 01:42:10,780 Motion passes unanimously and we move on to item 16. 1102 01:42:12,260 --> 01:42:18,960 that the City Council approve and an additional appropriation of $100,000 to H.R. Green Pacific 1103 01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:24,940 for an on-call plan and map check services, approve amendment number 1 to the Consultant 1104 01:42:24,940 --> 01:42:29,740 Professional Services Provider Agreement with H.R. Green Pacific by an amount not to exceed 1105 01:42:29,740 --> 01:42:33,400 $100,000 for on-call plan and map check services. 1106 01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:40,310 Is there any questions for staff? Councilmember Cox. 1107 01:42:40,770 --> 01:42:41,170 From 1108 01:42:46,450 --> 01:42:48,290 that this is cost neutral, but 1109 01:42:50,980 --> 01:42:53,080 especially in turn, we approve this. 1110 01:42:56,020 --> 01:43:01,140 My understanding, that's correct, I'm sure it's right here. 1111 01:43:01,940 --> 01:43:02,400 Yes, there. 1112 01:43:08,110 --> 01:43:10,110 Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions? 1113 01:43:12,620 --> 01:43:13,100 No, thank you. 1114 01:43:14,140 --> 01:43:16,060 Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions? 1115 01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:23,800 Yes, for clarification, is this the initial process to formulate the assessment district? 1116 01:43:26,730 --> 01:43:27,930 That is item number 8. 1117 01:43:33,350 --> 01:43:33,950 No, no question. 1118 01:43:34,490 --> 01:43:34,690 Okay. 1119 01:43:35,750 --> 01:43:37,550 Mayor Pro Temmer, Mayor, is do you have any questions? 1120 01:43:40,690 --> 01:43:41,310 No, thank you. 1121 01:43:42,070 --> 01:43:43,870 And then Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions? 1122 01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:47,640 No, question. 1123 01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:48,440 Okay. 1124 01:43:49,100 --> 01:43:52,300 Is there anyone on the line that wishes to speak on this item number 16? 1125 01:43:55,740 --> 01:43:56,560 There's no one. 1126 01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:59,260 So, Madame Mayor, if you would like a motion. 1127 01:44:17,430 --> 01:44:18,310 I 1128 01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:20,940 have a 1129 01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:29,640 motion by Councilmember Cox and a second by Mayor Garcia. 1130 01:44:30,420 --> 01:44:31,980 All those in favor? 1131 01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:33,420 Councilmember Cox. 1132 01:44:36,460 --> 01:44:37,280 Councilmember Gomez. 1133 01:44:39,780 --> 01:44:39,940 Aye. 1134 01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:41,360 Councilmember Jones. 1135 01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:43,240 Aye. 1136 01:44:44,620 --> 01:44:46,000 Mayor Pro Temmereras. 1137 01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:50,360 Mayor Garcia. 1138 01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:51,360 That 1139 01:44:55,170 --> 01:44:56,570 motion passes unanimously. 1140 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:18,800 Number 17, we have contract amendment with American organics. The recommendation is that the City Council approve amendment number nine to increase the general services provider agreement with American organics by $36,000 for a total contract amount of $76,000. 1141 01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:26,280 I will ask if council members have questions of staff council member Cox. Do you have any questions? 1142 01:45:33,270 --> 01:45:34,910 Deligia council member Cox. 1143 01:45:40,150 --> 01:45:49,170 I might have lost council member Cox. So we'll see yeah council member Jones. She's she's looking council member Jones. Are you there? 1144 01:45:52,390 --> 01:45:54,870 Council member Gomez. Do you have any questions? 1145 01:45:59,610 --> 01:46:05,670 and the law, I think, in regards to the law, I don't know if this is the same one, perhaps 1146 01:46:05,670 --> 01:46:09,750 it is, and it's just coming to the fore us an item. Is that the case? 1147 01:46:12,130 --> 01:46:20,810 Well, there is an element of law that basically is established why we're doing this, and there 1148 01:46:20,810 --> 01:46:28,810 There's an assembly bill 1826 that does require us to start complying with certain 1149 01:46:28,810 --> 01:46:35,290 organic disposal responsibilities, requirements, effectively the goal is to reduce the amount 1150 01:46:35,290 --> 01:46:45,130 of organics that go to the landfill and we've put in place a program that now is working 1151 01:46:45,130 --> 01:46:49,030 with our restaurants where we're taking the food waste and actually diverting that from 1152 01:46:49,030 --> 01:46:53,630 the landfill to an American organics. 1153 01:46:53,950 --> 01:47:00,910 This contract is being sought by staff because the dependency upon American organics now 1154 01:47:00,910 --> 01:47:08,810 is expected to be longer than what was originally envisioned in part because the project proposed 1155 01:47:08,810 --> 01:47:16,810 by Burntack, the longer-term solution to satisfying organics conversion program is under 1156 01:47:16,810 --> 01:47:21,190 construction. It was anticipated to be complete by this month, but it won't be complete 1157 01:47:21,190 --> 01:47:27,590 by this month. More likely, it won't be complete until June timeframe. Therefore, we need 1158 01:47:27,590 --> 01:47:32,850 to amend the contract of the American Organic so that we can continue to send them our food 1159 01:47:32,850 --> 01:47:38,990 please. Until such a time as our permanent solution is in place with her check over at 1160 01:47:38,990 --> 01:47:39,370 the Murph. 1161 01:47:41,650 --> 01:47:44,250 Well, thank you for that. Can I appreciate it? 1162 01:47:44,430 --> 01:47:45,150 No further questions? 1163 01:47:46,890 --> 01:47:51,270 Councilmember Cox, I think we lost you on item 17. Did you have any questions? 1164 01:47:54,060 --> 01:47:57,980 I did not. I did not. They covered it back on the cell phone. I can barely hear everyone. 1165 01:47:57,980 --> 01:47:59,480 So I'm dying again right now. 1166 01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:01,960 Okay. Mayor. 1167 01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:10,140 Okay. Mayor Pro Temmer, Mayor, do you have any questions? 1168 01:48:13,270 --> 01:48:13,870 No, ma'am. 1169 01:48:15,210 --> 01:48:17,190 Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions? 1170 01:48:17,890 --> 01:48:18,670 I don't have any. 1171 01:48:18,910 --> 01:48:20,230 I don't have any questions. 1172 01:48:20,650 --> 01:48:20,770 All right. 1173 01:48:21,490 --> 01:48:22,750 I don't have any questions. 1174 01:48:23,130 --> 01:48:23,390 Okay. 1175 01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:23,930 Let me see. 1176 01:48:24,190 --> 01:48:28,310 Is there anyone on the phone that would like to speak on this item number 17? 1177 01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:34,840 There was no one who would like to speak, Madame Mayor, if you want a motion. 1178 01:48:38,030 --> 01:48:38,570 Yes, I do. 1179 01:48:38,570 --> 01:48:43,670 Or maybe at this time I request the motion in a second for item 17. 1180 01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:50,420 I'll go ahead and make the motion as recommended by staff. 1181 01:48:52,370 --> 01:48:52,850 Second. 1182 01:48:54,250 --> 01:48:58,250 I have a motion by Councilmember Gomez, seconded by Mayor Garcia. 1183 01:48:59,310 --> 01:49:00,050 All those in favor. 1184 01:49:00,510 --> 01:49:02,750 Let me see if Mr. Cox is back on the line. 1185 01:49:05,090 --> 01:49:06,050 I'll buy a Facebook. 1186 01:49:06,390 --> 01:49:06,790 Okay. 1187 01:49:07,030 --> 01:49:07,530 Okay. 1188 01:49:07,990 --> 01:49:10,710 Are you in favor of item number 17? 1189 01:49:12,810 --> 01:49:15,710 Okay. Councilmember Gomez, are you in favor? 1190 01:49:17,430 --> 01:49:19,990 Yes. Councilmember Jones, are you in favor? 1191 01:49:22,460 --> 01:49:25,940 Yes. Mayor Pro Temer and Mara's, are you in favor? 1192 01:49:29,310 --> 01:49:31,330 And Mayor Garcia, are you in favor? 1193 01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:37,660 Yes. That motion passes unanimously. 1194 01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:46,920 We're on to item number 18 that the City Council accept the petition and consent 1195 01:49:46,920 --> 01:50:15,320 from Walton, California, a California-limited liability company as to an undivided 5% interest and WSF or West Creek LLC as to an undivided 95% interest as tenants in common, requesting formation of the West Creek Park Maintenance Assessment District No. 3 and Adopt Resolution No. 20-009 initiating proceedings for formation of West Creek Park MAD-3, 1196 01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:22,220 pursuant to the provisions of the Landscaping and Lighting Act of 1972 and other applicable laws 1197 01:50:22,220 --> 01:50:25,380 in ordering the preparation of an engineer's report. 1198 01:50:25,980 --> 01:50:29,400 At this time I'll ask if Council has questions of staff. 1199 01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:31,880 Council Member Cox, do you have any questions? 1200 01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:34,340 No questions. 1201 01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:36,920 Council Member Jones, do you have any questions? 1202 01:50:39,290 --> 01:50:40,470 None, thank you Madam Clerk. 1203 01:50:41,770 --> 01:50:43,650 Council Member Gomez, do you have any questions? 1204 01:50:45,610 --> 01:50:58,530 Yes, I kind of spotted this as an L-MAT, but here's the title of the certificate, there's a part maintenance assessment district, which I don't think I think in the tenure of my council. 1205 01:50:59,150 --> 01:51:10,150 So, if this is a maintenance assessment district for parts, must there be people who actually ask for it before we approve it? 1206 01:51:10,150 --> 01:51:10,950 and then there's a key. 1207 01:51:11,410 --> 01:51:13,610 What's that process for the park, same as an L-MAD? 1208 01:51:14,630 --> 01:51:16,710 Madam Mayor, members of the council, yes. 1209 01:51:17,070 --> 01:51:19,470 Actually, it is very similar to an L-MAD. 1210 01:51:19,650 --> 01:51:24,750 And in fact, the process that we're going through right now 1211 01:51:24,750 --> 01:51:28,490 is a very similar process to what you experienced 1212 01:51:28,490 --> 01:51:31,590 when property owners over in the Ridgecrest, 1213 01:51:31,950 --> 01:51:37,610 Ridge community asked to annex into an L-MAD 1214 01:51:37,610 --> 01:51:43,870 over in that area. And so the process is very similar, you're just dealing with a different type 1215 01:51:43,870 --> 01:51:50,270 of public improvement. And as to the property owners, in this particular case, it's the property 1216 01:51:50,270 --> 01:51:58,270 owners that are actually petitioning to self-assess themselves as a part of this assessment district. 1217 01:51:58,730 --> 01:52:04,630 And that's why when you look at recommendation one, and you see the divided interest, the 5%, 1218 01:52:04,630 --> 01:52:08,010 and the 95% that actually represents 100% 1219 01:52:08,010 --> 01:52:10,950 of the total ownership of those properties. 1220 01:52:11,710 --> 01:52:14,270 So effectively, what is happening here 1221 01:52:14,270 --> 01:52:18,590 is the property owners have petitioned the city 1222 01:52:19,070 --> 01:52:22,350 to have a maintenance assessment district form 1223 01:52:22,350 --> 01:52:23,590 in this particular case. 1224 01:52:23,590 --> 01:52:25,630 It would be an assessment district 1225 01:52:25,630 --> 01:52:29,070 for the purpose of maintaining a to be built park 1226 01:52:29,870 --> 01:52:33,330 in this undeveloped property 1227 01:52:33,330 --> 01:52:38,670 in the staff report identifies the number of tracks and there's quite a few tracks. 1228 01:52:38,850 --> 01:52:43,510 I think it's 11 single family residential subdivisions to be precise. 1229 01:52:44,270 --> 01:52:51,250 And so ultimately those properties will be built on anticipating that the specific plan 1230 01:52:51,250 --> 01:52:55,470 identifies a park to be constructed to the benefit of those eventual residents. 1231 01:52:55,750 --> 01:53:03,150 So this is the first step in a process where if the council approves this item and adopts 1232 01:53:03,150 --> 01:53:08,050 the resolution. This would be step one in the process. You would effectively direct the 1233 01:53:08,890 --> 01:53:13,730 city engineer to actually come back to you at a later date with an engineer's report. 1234 01:53:14,670 --> 01:53:20,590 Ultimately if council satisfied at that point in time, there would be a resolution adopting. 1235 01:53:21,570 --> 01:53:28,710 Ultimately there would be a vote by the property owners where votes would get tallied at a public 1236 01:53:28,710 --> 01:53:33,550 hearing meeting on or about June 16th. So very similar to the landscape 1237 01:53:33,550 --> 01:53:40,630 formation process, the only real difference here is that you're dealing with 1238 01:53:40,630 --> 01:53:42,550 a different type of public improvement. 1239 01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:50,040 I see. So one other question is, is it reasonable to say that all the parts that 1240 01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:54,680 under a type of assessment, I've asked the amount of questions they can't be, but 1241 01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:59,380 maybe perhaps some are under this type of size and others are perhaps 1242 01:53:59,380 --> 01:54:01,940 and the community services department. 1243 01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:09,040 That's correct not all parks are subject to a maintenance assessment district. 1244 01:54:09,740 --> 01:54:13,540 There may be more than than one I can think of one, 1245 01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:17,280 which is over in a subdivision called Las Haciendas. 1246 01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,160 And if Janelle Davidson is on the phone, 1247 01:54:21,060 --> 01:54:25,940 are there any other park maintenance assessment districts in the city other than Las Haciendas? 1248 01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:34,360 Thank you no further questions. 1249 01:54:40,380 --> 01:54:41,760 Okay. Yes. 1250 01:54:44,100 --> 01:54:46,820 Yes. On the part number A, 1251 01:55:05,950 --> 01:55:09,560 if you go down the extension of the 1252 01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:10,360 automobile way, 1253 01:55:14,620 --> 01:55:15,500 have a number of them. 1254 01:55:20,940 --> 01:55:22,180 And then you look direction 1255 01:55:24,930 --> 01:55:25,690 directions, 1256 01:55:25,970 --> 01:55:26,190 where 1257 01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:41,140 are they there? 1258 01:55:55,180 --> 01:55:58,840 You can speak to that. It may also be Scott Webb as it 1259 01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:06,780 relates to the specific plan and the types of conditions that get imposed out for 1260 01:56:06,780 --> 01:56:10,680 this kind of development. Even though it's not a PUD, it's a specific plan and an 1261 01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:16,380 exchange for things that they get in specific plan. There's usually certain types of 1262 01:56:17,460 --> 01:56:22,060 amenities required to get it approved. So maybe with the combination of them they 1263 01:56:22,060 --> 01:56:25,860 can answer the pocket park questions and what are some of these intended for. 1264 01:57:23,490 --> 01:57:24,890 The page that Councilmember Cox 1265 01:58:20,950 --> 01:58:21,970 utility. 1266 01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:54,080 Mayor Potem or Mayor, do you have any 1267 01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:54,460 questions? 1268 01:58:57,470 --> 01:59:00,610 No, ma'am. Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions? 1269 01:59:03,650 --> 01:59:08,110 Not for. Okay. Let me see if there's anyone on the line that would like to speak 1270 01:59:08,110 --> 01:59:13,230 on this item. Is there anyone who would like to speak on item 18? 1271 01:59:17,830 --> 01:59:18,810 No, I would like to speak 1272 01:59:18,810 --> 01:59:21,650 on this item, Madam Mayor, so there's a ready for a motion. 1273 01:59:24,610 --> 01:59:28,950 Okay. I did have my request in motion and I said I can do item 18. 1274 01:59:38,340 --> 01:59:45,940 I would like to accept the petition as consented by the recommendation of staff, along with the 1275 01:59:53,290 --> 01:59:58,950 I do have a motion by Councilmember Gomez and a second by Councilmember Jones. 1276 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,220 All those in favor? Councilmember Cox? 1277 02:00:05,310 --> 02:00:06,490 Councilmember Gomez? 1278 02:00:08,660 --> 02:00:14,600 Aye. Councilmember Jones? Aye. Mayor Pro Temer-Meras? 1279 02:00:18,570 --> 02:00:19,310 Mayor Garcia. 1280 02:00:23,150 --> 02:00:24,810 Motion passes unanimously. 1281 02:00:27,810 --> 02:00:41,410 We're on to item number 19. Request to accept strategic partnership program grant from Mojave Water Agency for Water Efficient Toilet Replacement Program and related authorizations. 1282 02:00:41,410 --> 02:01:05,690 that the City Council adopt resolution number 20-008 entitled a resolution of the City Council of the City of Victorville, California accepting the Strategic Partnership Program Grant Award from the Mahavi Water Agency amending the annual budget for fiscal year 2019-2020 for associated additional revenue and expenses and related authorizations. 1283 02:01:06,250 --> 02:01:11,170 This time I'll ask Council if they have questions of staff. Councilmember Cox? 1284 02:01:11,450 --> 02:01:13,170 I think the same Cox, I have a question. 1285 02:01:13,530 --> 02:01:13,770 Okay. 1286 02:01:14,270 --> 02:01:24,010 On the second page, I'll pay $3.94 in the discussion. It quite out that these toilets will be made available to in. 1287 02:02:08,840 --> 02:02:12,540 I know she's the Director of Community Services, and I'll continue to help us with that one. 1288 02:02:19,810 --> 02:02:20,710 Applied to all kinds. 1289 02:02:25,590 --> 02:02:27,410 Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions? 1290 02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:31,140 No, thank you, Madam Clerk. 1291 02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:34,380 Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions? 1292 02:02:36,970 --> 02:02:42,790 I noticed that this particular item is to be adopted immediately and my question is 1293 02:02:42,790 --> 02:02:48,170 procedurally why is something of this level as a resolution and immediacy rather than 1294 02:02:48,170 --> 02:02:50,170 having a 30-day or any of the processes? 1295 02:02:52,950 --> 02:02:58,870 Oh, this is City Attorney Andre D. White now asking all resolutions can be adopted effective 1296 02:02:58,870 --> 02:02:59,270 immediately. 1297 02:02:59,270 --> 02:03:04,530 It's ordinances that require a 30-day waiting period after a first and then a second reading. 1298 02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:12,300 I'm sorry, you spoke a little too quick for me, I know the terminology is very important here. 1299 02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:13,280 Would you repeat that? 1300 02:03:13,620 --> 02:03:18,100 Certainly, resolutions typically become effective upon their adoption. 1301 02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:24,260 Immediately, that's typical standard just as a motion to approve something was also effective immediately. 1302 02:03:24,940 --> 02:03:30,680 It is when you have an ordinance, i.e. making a law, that you require a 30-day waiting period 1303 02:03:30,680 --> 02:03:32,760 after you've had a first and second reading. 1304 02:03:35,030 --> 02:03:35,690 Thank you. 1305 02:03:35,890 --> 02:03:36,930 Please see that clarification. 1306 02:03:40,130 --> 02:03:42,290 Mayor Pro Temmer-Marrows, do you have any questions? 1307 02:03:45,580 --> 02:03:46,240 No, thank you. 1308 02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:48,620 And Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions? 1309 02:03:51,950 --> 02:03:52,610 Not questions. 1310 02:03:54,030 --> 02:03:57,950 Is there anyone on the line that would like to speak on this item number 19? 1311 02:04:01,460 --> 02:04:03,100 There's no one on the line, Madam Mayor. 1312 02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:06,700 Thank you. 1313 02:04:07,420 --> 02:04:11,200 At this time, I request a motion and a second for item 19. 1314 02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:11,860 I'm going 1315 02:04:16,540 --> 02:04:18,480 to make that motion as recommended by staff. 1316 02:04:21,290 --> 02:04:25,010 Have a motion by Council Member Gomez, seconded by Council Member Cox. 1317 02:04:25,330 --> 02:04:26,030 All those in favor? 1318 02:04:26,370 --> 02:04:26,970 Council Member Cox? 1319 02:04:29,410 --> 02:04:30,650 Council Member Gomez? 1320 02:04:33,060 --> 02:04:33,240 Aye. 1321 02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:34,460 Council Member Jones? 1322 02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:36,800 Aye. 1323 02:04:37,580 --> 02:04:38,820 Mayor Prattemberer-Meras? 1324 02:04:43,150 --> 02:04:43,730 Mayor Garcia? 1325 02:04:48,900 --> 02:04:50,420 That motion passes unanimously. 1326 02:04:54,370 --> 02:05:01,310 Item number 20 is the COVID-19 Emergency Rental Agreements for Diamond Environmental 1327 02:05:01,310 --> 02:05:06,370 mental services. The recommendation is that the City Council ratify city managers 1328 02:05:06,370 --> 02:05:10,750 and emergency approval of a rental agreement of equipment for the eight 1329 02:05:10,750 --> 02:05:18,370 unsheltered homeless population sanitation sites for a total of $24,756.74. 1330 02:05:18,890 --> 02:05:23,870 A rental agreement of 19 portable restrooms in hand washing stations for 17 1331 02:05:23,870 --> 02:05:28,170 park sites for a total of 19,000, $25.46. 1332 02:05:28,170 --> 02:05:32,110 Since a rental agreement of two solar elite flushable 1333 02:05:32,110 --> 02:05:35,150 restrooms with interior hand washing stations for the drive 1334 02:05:35,150 --> 02:05:38,570 through COVID-19 testing at the San Bernardino County 1335 02:05:38,570 --> 02:05:42,990 Fairgrounds and Victorville for total of $920.96. 1336 02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:47,150 And a rental agreement of equipment for the potential shelter 1337 02:05:47,150 --> 02:05:50,950 quarantine sites for total of $11,710. 1338 02:05:51,930 --> 02:05:55,210 Approve an additional 56-day agreement 1339 02:05:55,210 --> 02:06:03,730 with Diamond Environmental Services for the amount of $112,826.32, approved resolution 1340 02:06:03,730 --> 02:06:14,430 number 20-014, additional appropriation in the amount of $169,239.48 to the fiscal year 1341 02:06:14,430 --> 02:06:21,930 2019-2020 budget. This time I'll ask if council have questions of staff. Councilmember Cox, 1342 02:06:21,930 --> 02:06:22,810 do you have any questions? 1343 02:06:26,710 --> 02:06:34,270 Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions? No, thank you Madam Clerk. Councilmember Gomez, do you have any questions? 1344 02:06:36,650 --> 02:06:41,910 Yes, aren't these fiscal decisions that are within the purview of the city manager? 1345 02:06:42,330 --> 02:06:45,190 And so, it couldn't be used to have been lease meals. 1346 02:06:46,250 --> 02:06:54,250 And what is the legality if they were to have been cybercated for that advantage or for that matter of lease meals? 1347 02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:03,780 The question. 1348 02:07:05,740 --> 02:07:09,220 Well, let me try to reframe it because I sent time to write it down. 1349 02:07:09,220 --> 02:07:10,800 So perhaps I could just speak it out. 1350 02:07:11,080 --> 02:07:13,600 So it's my understanding that within the guidelines, 1351 02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:16,800 you have the power to adopt anything under $50,000 1352 02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:18,940 which if you would have brought them, 1353 02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:21,540 you wouldn't have asked to have brought any of these 1354 02:07:21,540 --> 02:07:24,640 to council except the one that exceeds $50,000. 1355 02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:27,160 So I wonder what the decision-making process behind 1356 02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:28,960 and the legality of that process was 1357 02:07:29,340 --> 02:07:31,280 to not speak that within the purview 1358 02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:34,700 and not bring it to city council or what is going on. 1359 02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:38,780 Madam Mayor and council, it's always mid. 1360 02:07:38,780 --> 02:07:43,900 I think I can answer that question and we also have George Harris and John 1361 02:07:43,900 --> 02:07:48,900 Mindola who would oversee the finance and purchasing process that could 1362 02:07:48,900 --> 02:07:55,500 chime in but I believe because we are you're seeing three different contracts I 1363 02:07:55,500 --> 02:08:00,180 think one's in the amount of 24,000 a smaller amount 19,000 I'm sorry it's not 1364 02:08:00,180 --> 02:08:05,620 right in front of me but in other than in other than up at itself each one of 1365 02:08:05,620 --> 02:08:11,060 those could be approved by the city manager. However, our purchasing guidelines indicate 1366 02:08:11,060 --> 02:08:17,900 that when one vendor exceeds an expenditure of $50,000, which is above the city manager's 1367 02:08:17,900 --> 02:08:24,620 authority, he has to bring it to council because otherwise that would be considered bid splitting 1368 02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:30,600 and it's just another protection that we have in our purchasing code for transparency reasons 1369 02:08:30,600 --> 02:08:32,500 is that we don't spend so much with one bender. 1370 02:08:32,840 --> 02:08:35,780 So if you want to add anything to that, 1371 02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:39,020 John or George, but lead us with answers the question, 1372 02:08:39,220 --> 02:08:40,620 Councillor Aguilman's was asking. 1373 02:08:42,620 --> 02:08:46,800 If I may, I guess I may stop you for a little bit. 1374 02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:49,320 You spoke something that's out of the leads 1375 02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:50,260 of my understanding. 1376 02:08:51,060 --> 02:08:53,460 I understood something about purchasing code 1377 02:08:53,460 --> 02:08:55,600 and transferring things, which really, 1378 02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:57,920 I want to pay attention to what you just said, 1379 02:08:57,940 --> 02:09:00,100 but if you don't mind repeating it a different way, 1380 02:09:00,100 --> 02:09:04,400 I used to say something about you can't do something at a level within the 1381 02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:08,680 population of an emergency or whatever, but can you clarify that for me? 1382 02:09:08,740 --> 02:09:09,580 I didn't quite get it. 1383 02:10:39,830 --> 02:10:40,850 It's already been made, which is 1384 02:10:48,050 --> 02:10:48,870 56 days. 1385 02:11:10,830 --> 02:11:12,230 I mean, it's still progress 1386 02:11:15,680 --> 02:11:17,440 is I'll get more clarification right now. 1387 02:11:17,700 --> 02:11:20,790 It's just what we're doing. 1388 02:11:21,050 --> 02:11:21,750 So I appreciate that. 1389 02:11:22,250 --> 02:11:22,610 Thank you. 1390 02:11:25,670 --> 02:11:27,730 Mayor Pro Temer-Marras, do you have any questions? 1391 02:11:31,320 --> 02:11:31,740 I do. 1392 02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:39,320 When we talk about a rental agreement, what is the general term in terms of time? 1393 02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:42,020 How many months or is it eight months? 1394 02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:50,220 Because I notice we have a rental agreement for the aid on sheltered homeless sanitation 1395 02:11:50,940 --> 02:11:52,800 sites that we also have a rental. 1396 02:11:53,500 --> 02:11:58,260 So in terms of time, how many months are we talking about each 1397 02:12:00,600 --> 02:12:01,280 period? 1398 02:12:44,360 --> 02:12:50,760 No, when we say that, does that mean that in 28 days, 30 days from now, you're going 1399 02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:53,460 to be requesting the same amount of money, 1400 02:13:04,120 --> 02:13:06,660 consignative, that's not some current. 1401 02:13:16,060 --> 02:13:22,120 Plus, termination of that contract will be oriental. 1402 02:13:22,840 --> 02:13:26,580 Then, is there a possibility, I'm asking, 1403 02:13:26,980 --> 02:13:30,100 that we will continue with the same contract? 1404 02:13:32,130 --> 02:13:34,290 Possibility should the need still exist, 1405 02:13:34,590 --> 02:13:36,750 but at that time, it would be... 1406 02:14:10,130 --> 02:14:11,610 Air Garcia, do you have any questions? 1407 02:14:11,610 --> 02:14:11,850 No questions? 1408 02:14:14,900 --> 02:14:16,120 No, no questions. 1409 02:14:16,500 --> 02:14:20,380 I believe this is my main sense well of something we needed. 1410 02:14:21,300 --> 02:14:21,820 No questions. 1411 02:14:22,540 --> 02:14:24,640 Madam Mayor, this is key for our work. 1412 02:14:30,250 --> 02:14:35,230 Council Member Jones, is that I heard someone, did someone else have questions? 1413 02:14:36,010 --> 02:14:37,010 Council Member Gomez. 1414 02:14:37,610 --> 02:14:38,350 Council Member Gomez. 1415 02:14:38,570 --> 02:14:38,690 Oh. 1416 02:14:39,170 --> 02:14:39,470 Sorry. 1417 02:14:39,750 --> 02:14:42,190 If I may, I put another question for it out. 1418 02:14:43,050 --> 02:14:49,440 So, a lot of you have heard and I'm sure aware of the sentence action. 1419 02:14:49,440 --> 02:14:54,640 production or T.F. the Defense Protection Act and the reason I bring that up is because 1420 02:14:54,640 --> 02:14:59,620 I wanted to speak just for the mere curiosity I'm not advocating for any coercion whatsoever. 1421 02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:30,220 Is there a way that something similar within the powers of local municipalities can have something of that level to initiate voluntary cooperation to flatten the COVID curve through asking our vendors to cooperate with something of this level, or maybe a type of subsidy, something that we can use? And once again, I'm not asking for a course of powers with the government. 1422 02:15:30,220 --> 02:15:40,580 and what I'm asking is if there's some type of cooperation to initiate something so related to COVID-19 to flatten that curve. 1423 02:15:41,160 --> 02:15:49,240 Just as we are doing with EOC and receiving, hopefully not too long from now, FEMA funds and other funds in the state and the federal government 1424 02:15:49,240 --> 02:15:51,700 as much as feasible from those. 1425 02:15:54,650 --> 02:16:00,250 This is the city attorney. I don't think as a municipality we have the ability to do something like that. 1426 02:16:00,250 --> 02:16:11,190 I think obviously you could ask vendors politely if they cooperate and give us some kind of discount, but certainly I would not advocate as a municipality doing anything like that. 1427 02:16:13,930 --> 02:16:30,770 Right. Right. And thank you for that clarification, because I wasn't asking to advocate is mere curiosity because sometimes local government have a power that sits out upon them and could be considered abusive, but at times where we have a national or I'm sorry, a global pandemic, something that the public health crisis. 1428 02:16:30,770 --> 02:16:36,730 I don't know if there's some of the leveraging tools that can be used in order to assist 1429 02:16:36,730 --> 02:16:39,550 to spotly that COVID-19 curvature, thank you. 1430 02:16:42,870 --> 02:16:47,570 Is there any public that would like to speak on item number 20? 1431 02:16:49,010 --> 02:16:50,650 Yes, Valentino Rina. 1432 02:16:52,130 --> 02:16:53,490 Go ahead, Valentino. 1433 02:16:53,510 --> 02:16:54,210 You have three minutes. 1434 02:16:56,240 --> 02:16:56,440 Okay. 1435 02:16:56,440 --> 02:17:06,940 I'm looking at the backup material item C. We are going to be paying the county $920 for the use on 1436 02:17:12,280 --> 02:17:12,820 the property. 1437 02:17:13,640 --> 02:17:15,840 I don't know if I'm understanding, 1438 02:17:19,470 --> 02:17:19,970 and they have 1439 02:17:23,070 --> 02:17:27,450 accommodated quite large amounts of people there. 1440 02:17:27,450 --> 02:17:28,030 20 1441 02:17:31,260 --> 02:17:31,820 dollars 1442 02:17:35,860 --> 02:17:37,160 to facilitate 1443 02:17:43,110 --> 02:17:44,650 the fee with 1444 02:17:48,620 --> 02:17:53,550 a rental agreement for the shelter. 1445 02:17:56,040 --> 02:18:00,560 What is the equipment that we're talking about that couldn't cost those $11,000? 1446 02:18:01,140 --> 02:18:01,420 Is 1447 02:18:09,540 --> 02:18:10,540 there any other comments? 1448 02:18:11,940 --> 02:18:14,080 Is there anyone else on the line that would like to comment? 1449 02:18:17,930 --> 02:18:18,030 No. 1450 02:18:18,230 --> 02:18:21,830 Madam Mayor, there's no one else that would like to comment. 1451 02:18:21,830 --> 02:18:32,820 Madam Mayor, if I might, just one point of clarification I'd like to get from the Deputy 1452 02:18:32,820 --> 02:18:35,080 City Manager before the Council votes. 1453 02:18:36,440 --> 02:18:44,680 And in the staff recommendation item number three identifies for references that the 1454 02:18:44,680 --> 02:18:49,200 resolution contains an amount of 169,239. 1455 02:18:49,200 --> 02:18:56,460 and that seems to be slightly different than the amount that's actually in the 1456 02:18:56,460 --> 02:19:03,300 resolution. So I want to make sure that as we're approving this, we're approving the right amount. 1457 02:19:03,580 --> 02:19:08,400 And if the resolution needs to be corrected, I think I would ask that the council consider 1458 02:19:09,100 --> 02:19:14,520 amending the motion to do that. But I need some clarification from George, if I can. 1459 02:19:14,520 --> 02:19:15,300 No. Page 1460 02:19:17,930 --> 02:19:19,290 416 is the resolution. 1461 02:19:19,610 --> 02:19:20,910 I think it needs 1462 02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:25,300 to be put in five, okay. 1463 02:19:25,700 --> 02:19:25,820 It 1464 02:20:06,360 --> 02:20:08,080 appears to be... 1465 02:20:43,920 --> 02:20:47,620 Madam Mayor, if you would like to get a request 1466 02:20:47,620 --> 02:20:48,780 of motion in a second, sorry. 1467 02:20:54,110 --> 02:20:56,070 That I'm on the list, 159. 1468 02:20:59,190 --> 02:21:00,410 39 and 48. 1469 02:21:03,190 --> 02:21:04,770 Yeah, it's in the recommendation. 1470 02:21:06,410 --> 02:21:09,890 Yeah, and number three, the item is in the recommendation. 1471 02:21:13,500 --> 02:21:13,980 There we go. 1472 02:21:18,780 --> 02:21:21,060 So I'm sorry, I didn't hear who made the motion. 1473 02:21:21,060 --> 02:21:21,840 Okay. 1474 02:21:24,040 --> 02:21:28,620 Okay. So then I would like to go ahead and move this motion as recommended at 1475 02:21:28,620 --> 02:21:35,760 the staff recommends with the modifixation to show that the resolution is going to be 169 1476 02:21:35,760 --> 02:21:39,520 dollars, 139, with 20 cents. Right? 1477 02:21:45,450 --> 02:21:47,870 That was a recommendation reflect, but we're 1478 02:21:47,870 --> 02:21:53,430 seeing as recommended by staff in the staff recording and it's collected within the actual 1479 02:22:01,450 --> 02:22:03,570 I have 1480 02:22:05,650 --> 02:22:12,270 a motion 1481 02:22:17,330 --> 02:22:22,370 by Councilmember Gomez, seconded by Mayor Garcia, all those in favor? 1482 02:22:22,370 --> 02:22:23,790 Councilmember Cox, 1483 02:22:26,340 --> 02:22:27,680 Councilmember Gomez, 1484 02:22:30,640 --> 02:22:31,940 Councilmember Jones, 1485 02:22:35,920 --> 02:22:36,940 Mayor Pro Temra-Meras, 1486 02:22:40,490 --> 02:22:41,240 Mayor Garcia, 1487 02:22:45,700 --> 02:22:46,960 motion carries unanimously. 1488 02:22:56,920 --> 02:23:03,360 The next item is number 21, the training schedule and any actions at the discretion of 1489 02:23:03,360 --> 02:23:04,120 the City Council. 1490 02:23:07,800 --> 02:23:13,260 I guess I will ask Council if they have questions, Councilmember Cox, do you have any questions? 1491 02:23:35,850 --> 02:23:38,890 If that's emotion, Mr. Customers, is it really in seconded? 1492 02:23:39,310 --> 02:23:39,490 It 1493 02:23:44,800 --> 02:23:47,200 makes emotion when we get to that point, I guess. 1494 02:23:49,880 --> 02:23:51,220 Councilmember Jones, do you have any? 1495 02:23:51,720 --> 02:23:52,660 Yeah, we're not for you. 1496 02:23:53,100 --> 02:23:53,220 Yeah. 1497 02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:55,500 Councilmember Jones, do you have any questions? 1498 02:23:55,920 --> 02:24:02,100 Yeah, I was going to ask the very same thing because it's likely, you know, 1499 02:24:02,680 --> 02:24:07,180 if it goes the same way other things have gone recently, a lot of confidence is they're just canceled. 1500 02:24:08,120 --> 02:24:09,960 And that may well happen. 1501 02:24:09,960 --> 02:24:17,900 And the annual link conference, however, that falls into another fiscal year. 1502 02:24:18,720 --> 02:24:24,160 And that might be out far enough that we can do that one, but I think it's easier to 1503 02:24:24,160 --> 02:24:25,400 just table this item. 1504 02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:29,660 You know, and so it's such time that we have more information. 1505 02:24:31,120 --> 02:24:31,400 Okay. 1506 02:24:33,260 --> 02:24:35,540 Councilmember Mugomas, do you have any further questions? 1507 02:24:37,980 --> 02:24:38,220 No. 1508 02:24:38,520 --> 02:24:38,800 Okay. 1509 02:24:38,800 --> 02:24:40,600 Mayor Pro Temer. Mayor, do you have any questions? 1510 02:24:43,480 --> 02:24:43,620 No. 1511 02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:46,720 Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions? 1512 02:24:50,080 --> 02:24:51,520 No, no questions. 1513 02:24:56,260 --> 02:24:58,220 So the motion would be to, 1514 02:25:07,890 --> 02:25:10,770 I think we can hold that discussion until we add more information 1515 02:25:10,770 --> 02:25:12,290 about what dates may be available. 1516 02:25:12,810 --> 02:25:15,590 Okay. And Council Member Gomez, you made a second? 1517 02:25:17,630 --> 02:25:22,990 Yeah. Okay. So a motion by Council Member Cox, seconded by Council Member Gomez. 1518 02:25:23,710 --> 02:25:25,890 All those in favor? Council Member Cox? 1519 02:25:28,270 --> 02:25:29,290 Councilmember Gomez. 1520 02:25:31,830 --> 02:25:32,830 Councilmember Jones. 1521 02:25:35,950 --> 02:25:38,190 Mayor Potemra-Marras and 1522 02:25:40,820 --> 02:25:41,440 Mayor Garcia. 1523 02:25:44,800 --> 02:25:48,960 So this is to continue this meeting to a later date? Yes. 1524 02:25:49,500 --> 02:25:53,660 Is this for that? Yes. When we have to have more information on the dates. 1525 02:25:59,730 --> 02:26:01,150 That motion passes unanimously. 1526 02:26:04,680 --> 02:26:07,280 And the next item is number 22, the City Council 1527 02:26:07,280 --> 02:26:12,240 Policy and Procedures Manual. Any actions at the discretion of the City Council? 1528 02:26:12,240 --> 02:26:16,600 and council member Gomez, you asked for this item. 1529 02:26:16,720 --> 02:26:17,660 Would you like to present it? 1530 02:26:20,370 --> 02:26:22,270 Okay, so I'm going here. 1531 02:26:22,490 --> 02:26:26,610 So this has been known that our policy consistently tweaking 1532 02:26:26,610 --> 02:26:32,560 depending on what happens within the realm of the friendship 1533 02:26:32,560 --> 02:26:37,020 or lack of friendship or unity with our council. 1534 02:26:37,640 --> 02:26:42,420 So the deposit has also been on multiple occasions. 1535 02:26:42,420 --> 02:26:49,380 And with that stated with a approval of my colleague, we have noted that we need to have 1536 02:26:49,380 --> 02:26:54,260 an ongoing conversation about all these policies and all these directives that at times 1537 02:26:54,260 --> 02:27:01,140 seem to not only accomplish the tender the way we establish and do processes as a majority 1538 02:27:01,140 --> 02:27:02,700 of the council. 1539 02:27:03,400 --> 02:27:07,940 And so this was brought up today to be able to analyze at least one or two maybe more 1540 02:27:07,940 --> 02:27:10,540 are possible, and if not continue the process, 1541 02:27:10,740 --> 02:27:13,260 it's an ongoing way of looking at its document 1542 02:27:13,260 --> 02:27:17,100 as a breathing document that is perhaps 1543 02:27:17,600 --> 02:27:20,280 changed and altered depending on how the majority 1544 02:27:20,280 --> 02:27:21,200 of the council feels. 1545 02:27:21,760 --> 02:27:23,420 And so that's why this is a direction 1546 02:27:23,420 --> 02:27:25,720 that's being brought today for a session 1547 02:27:25,720 --> 02:27:27,940 and possible action of the majority of the council. 1548 02:27:33,380 --> 02:27:37,160 This time I'll ask if there's questions of council members. 1549 02:27:38,540 --> 02:27:40,280 Council member Cox, do you have any questions? 1550 02:27:41,980 --> 02:27:42,560 I do. 1551 02:27:43,880 --> 02:27:44,840 I've always looked at 1552 02:27:54,820 --> 02:27:55,400 the time. 1553 02:27:55,600 --> 02:27:56,160 I have no idea 1554 02:28:05,790 --> 02:28:06,750 what the change 1555 02:28:16,510 --> 02:28:16,710 is. 1556 02:28:25,330 --> 02:28:26,050 You're right. 1557 02:28:26,250 --> 02:28:28,470 And I should have probably, during the introduction, 1558 02:28:28,650 --> 02:28:31,010 brought that I just, so I just needed to introduce it. 1559 02:28:31,470 --> 02:28:32,290 And that's what I did. 1560 02:28:32,510 --> 02:28:33,870 So I don't know if there's more questions. 1561 02:28:33,870 --> 02:28:35,810 But I can definitely say why it seems got up. 1562 02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:42,310 So I'm going to take that challenge over here. 1563 02:28:42,650 --> 02:28:47,030 So we're closely approximating December. 1564 02:28:47,690 --> 02:28:50,970 And it's been normal procedures to have mayors 1565 02:28:50,970 --> 02:28:57,790 Mayors turn at two years, and so whatever reason, this last time we did have a conflict 1566 02:28:57,790 --> 02:29:00,030 with who would be mayors depending on the vote. 1567 02:29:00,950 --> 02:29:05,290 And so that's not only conflicting, but it creates a lot of havoc within our community. 1568 02:29:05,970 --> 02:29:12,830 And so I wanted to look at the term limit, and not only exhaust, but eliminate any kind of term limit 1569 02:29:12,830 --> 02:29:16,630 that hasn't been done in the past, so I don't know why it's being implemented now. 1570 02:29:16,630 --> 02:29:22,090 And also look at the, um, instead of having the four or six votes, I think a majority 1571 02:29:22,090 --> 02:29:26,610 should be able to seek for a community which it has for the last four years, and I don't 1572 02:29:26,610 --> 02:29:27,570 know why there's a change. 1573 02:29:28,090 --> 02:29:33,190 So for the, for the person who's running or is going to be nominated or elected or would 1574 02:29:33,190 --> 02:29:40,190 have you from the other four council members, you'd have at least three people to have that 1575 02:29:40,190 --> 02:29:41,170 majority extended. 1576 02:29:41,170 --> 02:29:48,490 There's no requirements for 4.5 because it does lock down and it becomes an animosity 1577 02:29:48,490 --> 02:29:59,970 as a game so with that said, in court, looking at revising the current limit for the 1578 02:30:00,020 --> 02:30:29,640 Going from 4.5, as the majority, as it always has been. And so my motion to maturely, if it seems to mature, would be to eliminate the term limits or mayors, and to allow for the 4.5 reduction through the majority, which would be 3.2, if that would ever happen. And that's my motion. And I hope my colleagues would understand that this is just continuous, where we have continuously done in the past. 1579 02:30:29,640 --> 02:30:34,740 I don't think we need to change anything of that level, but we do need to change what's 1580 02:30:34,740 --> 02:30:40,080 happening from force this, the majority is something that I motion, and eliminating 1581 02:30:40,080 --> 02:30:44,140 this term limit is also something really important, so that's my motion. 1582 02:30:48,370 --> 02:30:52,170 Councillor, I still need to ask questions of council members. 1583 02:30:52,510 --> 02:30:54,790 Council member Jones, do you have any questions? 1584 02:30:57,160 --> 02:31:04,300 Well, I do. I don't know that I agree with that when the item was presented, how it was 1585 02:31:04,300 --> 02:31:12,840 hurt to ride, but I know that's probably the intention for the good of the entire 1586 02:31:12,840 --> 02:31:17,940 council this way. Typically, both the procedures manuals are, 1587 02:31:20,510 --> 02:31:21,830 you know, it's kind of a fluid 1588 02:31:21,830 --> 02:31:31,500 document that you address issues over time when you find that there's a need to revisit 1589 02:31:31,500 --> 02:31:32,140 an item. 1590 02:31:32,880 --> 02:31:39,000 You know, to revisit an issue, if there's been some kind of demonstrated evidence that 1591 02:31:39,000 --> 02:31:45,380 it's the policy or the procedures in adequate or it's flawed or it's harmful in some manner. 1592 02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:53,240 And also an opportunity to take up new subject matters for consideration or any other types 1593 02:31:53,240 --> 02:31:56,300 but like minor grammar punctuation type things 1594 02:31:56,300 --> 02:32:00,120 so that it's a comprehensive document 1595 02:32:00,120 --> 02:32:05,340 and historically on this. 1596 02:32:07,330 --> 02:32:10,750 So this message, this is for our attorney and the manager. 1597 02:32:11,410 --> 02:32:16,030 Historically on this, we've always done kind of a global look 1598 02:32:16,030 --> 02:32:19,250 see at it and not just pinpointed certain things 1599 02:32:19,250 --> 02:32:22,530 to look at, although that's something we can do 1600 02:32:22,530 --> 02:32:24,170 with the council wants to do that. 1601 02:32:24,930 --> 02:32:26,250 If we're going to go that direction, 1602 02:32:26,430 --> 02:32:28,190 then I certainly have a number of other things 1603 02:32:28,190 --> 02:32:30,090 that I would like to take up, 1604 02:32:31,230 --> 02:32:32,770 but I'm just almost thinking, 1605 02:32:36,740 --> 02:32:38,540 we need to kind of fly, 1606 02:32:42,250 --> 02:32:43,810 we're going to revisit certain things 1607 02:32:43,810 --> 02:32:45,730 and what the parameters for that should be. 1608 02:32:48,260 --> 02:32:48,960 The correctness I'm wrong, 1609 02:32:49,000 --> 02:32:50,960 we've always done kind of a global look 1610 02:32:50,960 --> 02:32:52,180 at the policy manual 1611 02:32:52,180 --> 02:32:53,980 because it's kind of a nascent document. 1612 02:32:54,240 --> 02:32:55,820 Is that correct, Mr. Metzler? 1613 02:32:56,160 --> 02:32:56,400 The 1614 02:33:02,760 --> 02:33:03,280 recollection, 1615 02:33:04,100 --> 02:33:05,780 but quite honestly, I think 1616 02:33:05,780 --> 02:33:11,080 what the council's prog, whatever the council's progative is, is the way it can be looked upon. 1617 02:33:12,500 --> 02:33:13,500 Let me chime in. 1618 02:33:13,500 --> 02:33:13,660 Right. 1619 02:33:14,300 --> 02:33:18,720 Let me chime in if I might see a journey again. 1620 02:33:19,860 --> 02:33:27,080 You know, to the extent that you want to discuss specific changes to the policy manual, such as the one suggested by councilmember Gomez, 1621 02:33:27,360 --> 02:33:35,720 I would recommend that you agendaize that for an upcoming meeting, maybe the next meeting with specific recommendations as to what to change. 1622 02:33:35,720 --> 02:33:41,000 because right now for the benefit of the public this was just noticed as a general discussion 1623 02:33:41,000 --> 02:33:45,540 about whether or not we want to even change the policy manual and I don't think it's fair 1624 02:33:45,540 --> 02:33:49,480 to the public to have a discussion about specific items you're going to change without them 1625 02:33:49,480 --> 02:33:54,160 having the opportunity to participate in that discussion. So I don't have a problem with 1626 02:33:54,160 --> 02:33:58,560 what council member Gomez is suggesting. I just think that suggestion should be a motion to 1627 02:33:58,560 --> 02:34:04,200 have a discussion of that or that end or other items of interest to the council members at the next 1628 02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:04,460 meeting. 1629 02:34:12,440 --> 02:34:15,840 So perhaps this is a time to figure out if there's other items that people want to have 1630 02:34:15,840 --> 02:34:22,140 addressed in connection with the policy manual, which we could then agenda. Yes, I do. I do. 1631 02:34:24,160 --> 02:34:33,020 May I go ahead? Yes. So if we're going to be, if we're going to be specific on it, then first of all, 1632 02:34:33,020 --> 02:34:38,220 in our recent governance workshop, and this was one of the main things that came to my mind, 1633 02:34:38,220 --> 02:34:45,720 And the council agreed that we would amend our policy manual to include the norms that 1634 02:34:45,720 --> 02:34:48,520 we set out during the governance workshop. 1635 02:34:48,820 --> 02:34:51,100 So that's, I think, is given. 1636 02:34:52,830 --> 02:34:58,540 Also the public comment period, I think we need to consider whether speakers should be able 1637 02:34:58,540 --> 02:35:02,120 to share any remaining time with another speaker. 1638 02:35:02,120 --> 02:35:07,360 I think we've had one occasion recently for someone made a request before the meeting. 1639 02:35:07,360 --> 02:35:10,160 I think that's worthy of discussion. 1640 02:35:11,600 --> 02:35:17,620 I think that we need to explicitly define the appointment process for the annual reorganization 1641 02:35:17,620 --> 02:35:22,840 so that we don't have the NL again, that we've experienced over the past couple of years. 1642 02:35:24,180 --> 02:35:29,660 We may want to define the process for the council to prove that nominees and the council 1643 02:35:29,660 --> 02:35:30,540 appointment process. 1644 02:35:30,880 --> 02:35:35,060 So because I think our nominees are largely volunteers and they should know what to expect 1645 02:35:35,060 --> 02:35:39,620 during that process and know that they'll be treated with risk. 1646 02:35:42,400 --> 02:35:44,040 And then there's just, there's like a couple, 1647 02:35:44,160 --> 02:35:47,220 probably some type of graphical things and, you know, 1648 02:35:47,300 --> 02:35:49,180 we need to make provision maybe for the correct. 1649 02:35:54,590 --> 02:35:55,550 And then a 1650 02:36:04,000 --> 02:36:06,600 primary, that 1651 02:36:12,130 --> 02:36:13,650 there can notify the alternate, 1652 02:36:14,050 --> 02:36:16,150 but it doesn't really clarify the 1653 02:36:28,600 --> 02:36:30,180 things that I would certainly 1654 02:36:31,680 --> 02:36:32,460 see discussed. 1655 02:36:35,620 --> 02:36:37,720 Councilmember Cox, do you want to add anything? 1656 02:36:46,490 --> 02:36:47,390 The council has 1657 02:37:16,860 --> 02:37:17,520 passed around. 1658 02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:18,120 If 1659 02:37:20,970 --> 02:37:24,880 you look at Apple Valley, it's a one-year term. 1660 02:37:24,980 --> 02:37:25,880 It's a textual thing. 1661 02:37:28,080 --> 02:37:29,600 You don't get additional money, 1662 02:37:32,010 --> 02:37:33,090 so then just they've served 1663 02:37:33,090 --> 02:37:37,570 more of your kind of duties to work together as a team. 1664 02:37:38,130 --> 02:37:41,630 We can't be secretly meeting and having fights about 1665 02:37:41,630 --> 02:37:44,570 I want to be the mayor because it's important to me. 1666 02:37:44,830 --> 02:37:47,090 I don't give a damn how important it is to an individual. 1667 02:37:47,330 --> 02:37:50,310 What's important is the city and the council working as a team. 1668 02:37:52,670 --> 02:37:56,710 If you take a look at this, we had a split in the council. 1669 02:37:56,710 --> 02:38:03,620 I wanted to be the mayor and of course no one should be elected mayor because they wanted. 1670 02:38:03,940 --> 02:38:09,120 It should be because the whole council wants it, because they are people that can show 1671 02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:09,620 leadership, 1672 02:38:13,300 --> 02:38:14,300 have them work together. 1673 02:38:14,980 --> 02:38:18,180 And we have a divided council to a large extent, but to 1674 02:38:23,650 --> 02:38:25,230 make a deal and have a mayor for life, 1675 02:38:25,410 --> 02:38:27,110 I mean why would you throw it out? 1676 02:38:27,730 --> 02:38:31,790 If you want to go back to the two-year term, you're spirit up of all you do one year, so to 1677 02:38:31,790 --> 02:38:34,130 most cities, it works not just fine. 1678 02:38:34,770 --> 02:38:42,050 So I'd like to have a discussion before we make any changes because I haven't heard any community agreement on this thing. 1679 02:38:42,170 --> 02:38:46,190 In fact, what I heard was a lot of unhappy people the way this happened. 1680 02:38:46,870 --> 02:38:49,910 You know, selecting the mayor, Yahoo, next day the mayor selected. 1681 02:38:50,330 --> 02:38:56,090 In this case, we get a big right up in the press because it wasn't done right and I think all the council members know it. 1682 02:38:56,090 --> 02:38:59,970 So, you know, if it's that important to one or two individuals, 1683 02:39:00,290 --> 02:39:02,890 then go ahead and advise the council and become mayor. 1684 02:39:03,070 --> 02:39:05,350 Maybe certainly the petition that it's elected 1685 02:39:05,350 --> 02:39:06,850 and you can be mayor for life. 1686 02:39:07,190 --> 02:39:09,250 But, for Padsec, show some leadership. 1687 02:39:09,570 --> 02:39:10,230 Pass this around. 1688 02:39:10,370 --> 02:39:11,450 Let everybody have a chance. 1689 02:39:11,630 --> 02:39:17,500 We all equally represent the same responsibilities. 1690 02:39:18,320 --> 02:39:19,900 And it's not that important. 1691 02:39:20,360 --> 02:39:22,700 The only thing is important is showing leadership. 1692 02:39:23,300 --> 02:39:25,660 I was hoping that we wouldn't do any changes 1693 02:39:25,660 --> 02:39:30,020 until we get we hired a consultant. I don't know what that's from 1694 02:39:30,020 --> 02:39:33,360 talking that's going to do. I don't know when the next meeting is, but I'll bet 1695 02:39:33,360 --> 02:39:37,440 you that they touch on this subject. Why don't you get my chance? We're paying 1696 02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:41,620 them good money. Let's do what they have to say. There's no changes that need to be 1697 02:39:41,620 --> 02:39:45,720 made right now that are earth shattering. In fact, there are no changes that need to be 1698 02:39:45,720 --> 02:39:48,540 made until December. After the next election. 1699 02:39:53,940 --> 02:39:55,020 Mayor Pro Temmer, 1700 02:39:55,020 --> 02:39:57,500 Maris would you do when I add anything to that? 1701 02:39:59,950 --> 02:40:01,930 Well, of course I do. 1702 02:40:02,510 --> 02:40:05,570 Number one, I understand Mr. Cox's opinion. 1703 02:40:06,330 --> 02:40:08,490 But that is all it is. It is an opinion. 1704 02:40:09,010 --> 02:40:09,970 It is not a fact. 1705 02:40:10,610 --> 02:40:14,110 It is the will of the people that determine who gets elected 1706 02:40:14,110 --> 02:40:18,290 and is the will of the council to determine who will be mayor 1707 02:40:18,290 --> 02:40:19,670 and may approach him. 1708 02:40:20,750 --> 02:40:22,270 We live in empty democracy. 1709 02:40:22,570 --> 02:40:25,010 That means that everybody has the right to vote. 1710 02:40:25,010 --> 02:40:29,510 but no one has the right to limit or restrict anyone. 1711 02:40:29,970 --> 02:40:33,030 If you have leadership, it's not limited to one year, 1712 02:40:33,390 --> 02:40:35,650 it's limited by your ability to achieve. 1713 02:40:36,730 --> 02:40:39,150 I might have two friends, three male friends, 1714 02:40:39,790 --> 02:40:44,470 one in Fontana and one in Realtor who have been mayor for over 20 years. 1715 02:40:45,290 --> 02:40:48,430 And they keep getting reelected because they do a good job. 1716 02:40:49,230 --> 02:40:54,230 I do not understand why one year would make you a good mayor 1717 02:40:54,230 --> 02:41:00,770 when it takes more than one year to be able to achieve anything at the city comes the level. 1718 02:41:01,450 --> 02:41:06,730 Therefore, I find it a question of choice, not a question of restriction. 1719 02:41:07,810 --> 02:41:11,550 Therefore, I do not agree with what I have heard. 1720 02:41:12,950 --> 02:41:18,870 Changes have to be made because life changes. This is why things have changed today 1721 02:41:18,870 --> 02:41:24,490 because of the virus. We do not wait until December to find out whether we're 1722 02:41:24,490 --> 02:41:30,170 going to be alive or dead. We are going to do things that will create change 1723 02:41:30,170 --> 02:41:36,770 for the betterment of our society. Therefore, if you look at your policy, much of 1724 02:41:36,770 --> 02:41:41,810 which was written by others, not by even those who are sitting at the City Council. 1725 02:41:41,810 --> 02:41:50,470 Council. The City Council members are responsible and obligated to look at policies, not the 1726 02:41:50,470 --> 02:41:57,410 city manager and not the city attorney. Therefore, when I hear anyone other than the five 1727 02:41:57,410 --> 02:42:03,150 members on the City Council expressed it, which is correct, because you have the right 1728 02:42:03,150 --> 02:42:11,590 to express your mind, but you do not have the right to review because that is given to 1729 02:42:11,590 --> 02:42:18,290 the city council members who were elected by the public. Therefore I find it very difficult 1730 02:42:18,290 --> 02:42:26,110 to accept this idea that you will wait until December to make your changes. Life does 1731 02:42:26,110 --> 02:42:34,630 not stop and you must grow with it. Therefore if the city of Victorville is going to grow and 1732 02:42:34,630 --> 02:42:41,190 be the light on the hill. We have to look at what changes must be made now, not later, 1733 02:42:41,610 --> 02:42:48,030 and we must work together. I agree with that. But let me say the benefit should be for 1734 02:42:48,030 --> 02:42:55,030 the people, not for the benefit of any person, to the city council. Therefore, I find fault 1735 02:42:55,030 --> 02:43:00,470 for some of the agreements and disagreements and arguments that I've heard. 1736 02:43:02,570 --> 02:43:03,930 This is truly 1737 02:43:03,930 --> 02:43:04,370 But 1738 02:43:06,580 --> 02:43:12,580 you know what, when you have a condition of this nature, you need to stand up and 1739 02:43:12,580 --> 02:43:20,020 face it as it is and deal with it fully and fairly, because nothing will be done like 1740 02:43:20,020 --> 02:43:23,180 hiding it, or let us say we 1741 02:43:26,900 --> 02:43:28,220 with much effort, but I've heard. 1742 02:43:29,040 --> 02:43:29,500 Thank you. 1743 02:43:30,800 --> 02:43:36,980 Mayor Garcia, do you have any questions or want anything you want to add to the list? 1744 02:43:36,980 --> 02:43:41,400 No, I don't have any questions. 1745 02:43:41,920 --> 02:43:48,040 I just feel that we do need to review possibly, you know, 1746 02:43:48,220 --> 02:43:51,300 just I don't know if it's up to Blanca, it's for calling. 1747 02:43:51,980 --> 02:43:57,820 But I do feel that we do need to identify for discussion 1748 02:43:57,820 --> 02:44:00,180 and possibly some action here, 1749 02:44:02,720 --> 02:44:03,480 so to decide. 1750 02:44:04,640 --> 02:44:07,480 OK, let me check to see if there's anyone on the line. 1751 02:44:08,100 --> 02:44:13,420 Let me see if there's anyone on the line who would like to speak during public comment. 1752 02:44:13,980 --> 02:44:16,600 Is there anyone there that would like to speak on item number 21? 1753 02:44:18,260 --> 02:44:18,820 Yes. 1754 02:44:19,060 --> 02:44:19,500 Valentina. 1755 02:44:19,800 --> 02:44:20,680 All right. 1756 02:44:20,780 --> 02:44:21,980 Valentina, you have three minutes. 1757 02:44:24,320 --> 02:44:24,600 Okay. 1758 02:44:25,420 --> 02:44:28,760 I've been a resident of this reveal for over 30 years. 1759 02:44:29,660 --> 02:44:36,160 And I do not recall ever having a change to the current policies. 1760 02:44:36,160 --> 02:44:38,380 If we're going to be up to date, 1761 02:44:44,810 --> 02:44:47,870 so people want, we need to understand the times change 1762 02:44:48,170 --> 02:44:50,810 and our policies to change with the 1763 02:44:52,820 --> 02:44:57,380 people, the residents of Israel have a right, in my 1764 02:44:57,380 --> 02:44:59,840 opinion, to weigh in. 1765 02:45:00,300 --> 02:45:11,480 The next mayor is, and we don't have that option as it is stand right now. So how can somebody 1766 02:45:11,480 --> 02:45:18,720 be elected mayor when the resident, when the voting public doesn't have a, doesn't have a 1767 02:45:18,720 --> 02:45:18,880 say? 1768 02:45:21,400 --> 02:45:25,340 That's my comment. Thank you. Is there anyone else that would like to provide 1769 02:45:25,340 --> 02:45:25,720 I'd comment, 1770 02:45:29,080 --> 02:45:30,260 there's no one else. 1771 02:45:31,340 --> 02:45:34,440 Would you like me to review the list that I've have so far? 1772 02:45:37,360 --> 02:45:38,340 Yes, please. 1773 02:45:39,160 --> 02:45:41,500 Okay, I have, from Council Member Gomez, 1774 02:45:41,980 --> 02:45:47,220 I have the, to discuss the mayor's term, 1775 02:45:48,840 --> 02:45:52,840 and then I have, from Council Member Jones, 1776 02:45:53,400 --> 02:45:59,340 I have the norms that was discussed with our other workshop, 1777 02:45:59,340 --> 02:46:05,920 up, the public speaker to give their time to someone else, reorganization, design process, 1778 02:46:07,240 --> 02:46:15,420 some grammar, punctuation, primary to notify alternate the reason for, and further clarification. 1779 02:46:17,460 --> 02:46:23,960 And then I do have, I wrote this for Jim, but I don't know if this would just fall under 1780 02:46:23,960 --> 02:46:32,660 the discussion with the mayor is the winner of the election is a mayor for one year terms. 1781 02:46:32,820 --> 02:46:36,880 I think I could group that one with just the discussion with the mayor's term. 1782 02:46:39,040 --> 02:46:43,100 The only other one, the only other one that, sorry, 1783 02:46:56,220 --> 02:46:57,620 okay, got, okay, 1784 02:47:00,120 --> 02:47:01,380 the only other thing, 1785 02:47:01,820 --> 02:47:06,660 I think Councillor Bacock suggested was also to get input from the consultants on it. 1786 02:47:06,660 --> 02:47:08,340 I don't know if you want to wait for that or not. 1787 02:47:14,690 --> 02:47:23,110 But this city council has a pinion from the public, has its own opinions, has a team, 1788 02:47:23,530 --> 02:47:28,170 sometimes broken, sometimes cold, depending on how the power structure weighs in as a 1789 02:47:28,170 --> 02:47:28,530 pendulum. 1790 02:47:29,370 --> 02:47:35,270 So with our suggested recommendations on the city attorney, I would like to say that this 1791 02:47:35,270 --> 02:47:42,150 item has been notified legally, and my motion is rightly done so today, with no violation 1792 02:47:42,150 --> 02:47:48,790 the last attorney can modify the policy immediately upon approval of the majority tonight 1793 02:47:49,370 --> 02:47:55,830 to one, eliminate the mayor's term limit, two, the work that's to a majority vote, and 1794 02:47:55,830 --> 02:48:00,550 three, along with reintroducing the recording of the post session, and I would like to see 1795 02:48:00,550 --> 02:48:05,050 if any of my colleagues would give a second so we can be a real part of the vote tonight. 1796 02:48:05,470 --> 02:48:09,490 As your city attorney, I must advise you that I do believe that would be relative of the 1797 02:48:09,490 --> 02:48:14,070 the Brown Act since there has been no information provided on the agenda as to the items that 1798 02:48:14,070 --> 02:48:15,410 you want to specifically discuss. 1799 02:48:17,850 --> 02:48:24,550 I would rightfully say, as I always have in a one to always push the boundary, you know, 1800 02:48:24,630 --> 02:48:29,650 my motion still stands to fight the fact that you recommend what you are recommending 1801 02:48:29,650 --> 02:48:30,790 Mr. Dubon-Optice. 1802 02:48:31,450 --> 02:48:37,110 On many occasions I assumed you pushed the lever and a lot of violations have occurred that 1803 02:48:37,110 --> 02:48:39,010 no one has done anything about something. 1804 02:48:39,010 --> 02:48:44,130 So I don't see any violation, any type of imprisonment of any sort. 1805 02:48:44,390 --> 02:48:50,410 I think it's to notify the community knows exactly that the policy would be discussed. 1806 02:48:51,070 --> 02:48:57,410 The policy is a vast document that was prepared by you and the city manager with some input 1807 02:48:57,410 --> 02:48:59,810 from some of the council and some not. 1808 02:49:00,230 --> 02:49:04,290 And so it's rightfully doing done here so today. 1809 02:49:04,650 --> 02:49:07,630 So all we need is three votes and you are overwritten. 1810 02:49:07,630 --> 02:49:12,090 and that's my motion. I'm not going to back it up and I always push the 1811 02:49:12,090 --> 02:49:16,570 level if my colleagues would like to join me and see what we can make happen 1812 02:49:16,570 --> 02:49:22,970 tonight. I'm not watering or backing up. That is my motion and you see I 1813 02:49:22,970 --> 02:49:27,170 modified my motion to include reinstituting the recording of the closed 1814 02:49:27,170 --> 02:49:32,730 session. So far I don't have a second on the modified version. We haven't 1815 02:49:32,730 --> 02:49:37,570 voted on it. We haven't voted on the primary motion either but 1816 02:49:37,570 --> 02:49:39,090 we do have a second on that one. 1817 02:49:43,840 --> 02:49:48,720 I don't have a second on any one. Yeah you have a second on the 1818 02:49:48,720 --> 02:49:55,340 first one. That was out of order. I seconded. But that was out of order. We were still taking questions. 1819 02:49:57,540 --> 02:50:03,080 There is no out of order. The council has authority to do anything. Right. Right but I didn't have a 1820 02:50:03,080 --> 02:50:07,480 second. You want to give me a second now on the first one or if you want to just take the modification 1821 02:50:09,580 --> 02:50:16,060 I want to go ahead and do the modification, if there's no second, we will retrieve and go back to the original motion. 1822 02:50:16,240 --> 02:50:20,200 It's kind of second by Ramirez, and she can verify that for you. 1823 02:50:20,320 --> 02:50:21,300 So, however, you want to take it. 1824 02:50:21,340 --> 02:50:33,420 Great. I'll take the motion made by Councilmember Gomez, the modified motion to eliminate the term limits required or the four fifths vote and closed session recordings. 1825 02:50:33,420 --> 02:50:37,500 Is there a second on that modified motion? 1826 02:50:39,260 --> 02:50:40,100 I second it. 1827 02:50:40,400 --> 02:50:41,560 I second it. 1828 02:50:41,920 --> 02:50:42,320 Okay. 1829 02:50:42,540 --> 02:50:45,120 I have a motion made by Councilmember Gomez. 1830 02:50:46,080 --> 02:50:48,960 Seconded by Mayor Pro Temer-Maris. 1831 02:50:49,720 --> 02:50:50,780 All those in favor? 1832 02:50:53,000 --> 02:50:54,000 Councilmember Cox? 1833 02:50:55,560 --> 02:50:56,280 No. 1834 02:50:57,360 --> 02:50:58,460 Councilmember Jones? 1835 02:51:00,220 --> 02:51:03,900 I will not vote because I'm not going to participate in a Brown Act violation. 1836 02:51:06,900 --> 02:51:07,860 Councilmember Gomez? 1837 02:51:10,830 --> 02:51:13,030 Yes, because there is no Brown Act violation. 1838 02:51:13,790 --> 02:51:15,270 Mayor Pro Temmer-Meras? 1839 02:51:17,980 --> 02:51:18,460 Yes. 1840 02:51:20,080 --> 02:51:21,020 Mayor Garcia? 1841 02:51:21,560 --> 02:51:21,820 I 1842 02:51:24,700 --> 02:51:25,460 need your assistance. 1843 02:51:25,460 --> 02:51:28,000 I'm very interested in the violation of the Brown Act. 1844 02:51:28,380 --> 02:51:32,440 I believe it as an violation of the Brown Act and the reason I believe that is because on 1845 02:51:32,440 --> 02:51:36,020 the Brown Act you were supposed to give the public the opportunity to understand what it is 1846 02:51:36,020 --> 02:51:40,560 you're discussing, and you are now having a pretty specific discussion about provisions 1847 02:51:40,560 --> 02:51:45,600 in the Brown, sorry, in the policy manual that you want to change. I have no problem with 1848 02:51:45,600 --> 02:51:48,660 the Council doing this at a subsequent meeting and putting this on the agenda and having 1849 02:51:48,660 --> 02:51:52,480 these items at a subsequent meeting where the public can understand what it is we're discussing. 1850 02:51:53,060 --> 02:51:58,180 But I think to do it tonight is lack of transparency to the public and would be deemed to be a brown 1851 02:51:58,180 --> 02:51:58,660 violation. 1852 02:52:00,980 --> 02:52:02,020 That's my legal opinion. 1853 02:52:06,140 --> 02:52:07,980 So Mayor Garcia, 1854 02:52:14,500 --> 02:52:17,040 anything that's going to be the 1855 02:52:17,040 --> 02:52:18,800 violation of the permit, the 1856 02:52:22,740 --> 02:52:26,500 foundation would be for us to advance it to the next meeting, 1857 02:52:26,960 --> 02:52:32,400 and then we can actually do it without a violation of the permit. 1858 02:52:34,860 --> 02:52:41,820 Gloria, why don't we have the attorney, the emotion, the legal opinion about what we're 1859 02:52:41,820 --> 02:52:46,920 doing, that way it's archived and it's part of the record because there is no history 1860 02:52:46,920 --> 02:52:52,680 in the United States that anything through a ground act has been instituted as such 1861 02:52:52,680 --> 02:52:56,860 and there has been a violation of that and there is documented tortuous of that. 1862 02:52:57,320 --> 02:53:02,120 I think the attorney's weigh-in authority over you has done something and I think that's 1863 02:53:02,120 --> 02:53:06,860 very unfair because those are mechanisms that the power structure uses to keep its power 1864 02:53:06,860 --> 02:53:07,400 in place. 1865 02:53:08,240 --> 02:53:13,800 And so I would ask that the senior attorneys actually give a legal opinion of what 1866 02:53:13,800 --> 02:53:18,880 happened today in terms of the motion and how we would have, how we voted, made this and 1867 02:53:18,880 --> 02:53:21,200 bring up the, sorry, decisive cases. 1868 02:53:21,580 --> 02:53:26,120 That way, Gloria Garcia feels comfortable because I really think that he's out about what he 1869 02:53:26,120 --> 02:53:31,100 is saying and is using that as a balance of the use of power because it has been notified 1870 02:53:31,100 --> 02:53:31,620 tonight. 1871 02:53:34,380 --> 02:53:35,460 We're talking about the 1872 02:53:35,460 --> 02:53:39,360 policy. We can just knit, take the 1873 02:53:39,360 --> 02:53:41,440 editing. There is no reason why there 1874 02:53:41,440 --> 02:53:43,340 is a violation. But if that's how 1875 02:53:43,340 --> 02:53:44,900 you desire, go ahead and make that 1876 02:53:44,900 --> 02:53:45,260 motion. 1877 02:53:49,680 --> 02:53:50,720 So we have a motion on 1878 02:53:50,720 --> 02:53:52,820 a second already. Mayor, were you 1879 02:53:52,820 --> 02:53:54,740 making? Mayor, were you making a 1880 02:53:54,740 --> 02:53:56,220 substitute motion to have the same 1881 02:53:56,220 --> 02:53:57,900 discussion at a subsequent meeting? 1882 02:53:58,100 --> 02:53:58,980 That's what I thought I heard you 1883 02:53:58,980 --> 02:53:59,200 say. 1884 02:54:02,220 --> 02:54:03,580 No, that's not what I 1885 02:54:08,820 --> 02:54:09,540 Okay. 1886 02:54:18,360 --> 02:54:23,560 Okay. That motion passes with Councilmember Cox and Councilmember Jones voting 1887 02:54:23,560 --> 02:54:23,840 no. 1888 02:54:26,500 --> 02:54:33,720 I'm sorry. Councilmember Jones. I'm sorry. That's what I'm sorry. You did not vote. 1889 02:54:33,720 --> 02:54:35,560 I'm sorry about that. 1890 02:54:37,780 --> 02:54:38,740 I have a question. 1891 02:54:39,160 --> 02:54:39,400 Member Jones. 1892 02:54:39,700 --> 02:54:40,340 Turning us a vote. 1893 02:54:41,940 --> 02:54:42,420 Sorry. 1894 02:54:42,820 --> 02:54:42,900 What? 1895 02:54:43,420 --> 02:54:44,620 That's a zone that's saying. 1896 02:54:48,250 --> 02:54:48,770 She abstained. 1897 02:54:49,770 --> 02:54:50,790 Yes, she's abstained. 1898 02:54:52,470 --> 02:54:53,710 The motion passes. 1899 02:54:56,270 --> 02:54:59,390 I'm just for the clarity record of a governmental issue. 1900 02:55:00,170 --> 02:55:02,710 If she did not abstain, she didn't use the word. 1901 02:55:02,950 --> 02:55:03,390 It's resumed. 1902 02:55:03,730 --> 02:55:04,270 So are you? 1903 02:55:04,390 --> 02:55:06,990 Are we interpreting her no vote as an ascension? 1904 02:55:06,990 --> 02:55:12,930 just for clarification. She didn't vote no. I'm going to, however I want to do it, it's just 1905 02:55:12,930 --> 02:55:20,370 I'm more of a principle. I'm not going to be drawn into a violation of the law. So it's I can get 1906 02:55:20,370 --> 02:55:20,850 clarification. 1907 02:55:37,520 --> 02:55:41,560 Yes, can we get clarification for Jones both? Because I know we have to prove that next 1908 02:55:41,560 --> 02:55:46,360 time that we come in. We are waiting, we are waiting on civic clarification. 1909 02:55:49,040 --> 02:55:50,020 From Ms. Jones? 1910 02:55:53,940 --> 02:55:54,120 Yes. 1911 02:55:57,560 --> 02:56:00,140 So you're not voting at all on the item, correct? 1912 02:56:02,100 --> 02:56:05,120 I'm not voting yes or no because I'm 1913 02:56:05,960 --> 02:56:08,600 saying that's essentially an extension. 1914 02:56:09,140 --> 02:56:09,300 Okay. 1915 02:56:10,560 --> 02:56:11,080 Okay. 1916 02:56:11,280 --> 02:56:12,060 Thank you for that purpose. 1917 02:56:12,320 --> 02:56:13,140 I appreciate it. 1918 02:56:14,280 --> 02:56:18,900 And this is a piece of proposal rule then as a point 1919 02:56:18,900 --> 02:56:20,280 if I could ask our attorneys. 1920 02:56:22,040 --> 02:56:26,460 So when we both taken on this, I understand that. 1921 02:56:26,920 --> 02:56:34,440 But as to all of the other issues that I raise, you know, I 1922 02:56:36,720 --> 02:56:38,040 think I don't even want to raise 1923 02:56:38,040 --> 02:56:42,600 some of this point except for the amending and putting the norm then because I think we 1924 02:56:42,600 --> 02:56:46,600 all know how this is going to go, so I just don't really want to, I just don't think it's 1925 02:56:46,600 --> 02:56:46,860 helpful. 1926 02:56:47,300 --> 02:56:55,280 If you want to qualify by saying that it was never important for, I don't know if the individual 1927 02:56:55,280 --> 02:57:04,160 words that wanted to be mayor but you know there's been some mischaracterizations over time and certainly I was not one of them 1928 02:57:04,160 --> 02:57:11,100 I would never wish to and have repeatedly said I would never wish to serve in any capacity other than what would be the will of the 1929 02:57:11,100 --> 02:57:18,440 majority so to put me in that town it just isn't it isn't factual so thank you that 1930 02:57:44,290 --> 02:57:46,670 motion there is no term for the mayor so 1931 02:58:08,660 --> 02:58:09,520 we're moving on to 1932 02:58:09,520 --> 02:58:14,180 item 23 public comment. Is there anyone on the line that wishes to speak? 1933 02:58:16,120 --> 02:58:20,340 Yes, Valentino Diener. Go ahead, Godina, you have three minutes. 1934 02:58:23,300 --> 02:58:29,640 Thank the City Council for opening the door to modifying the city 1935 02:58:32,010 --> 02:58:33,470 policies and procedures. 1936 02:58:34,110 --> 02:58:35,450 It is policy 1937 02:58:41,080 --> 02:58:45,860 and procedures manual to be updated just today's needs. 1938 02:58:47,280 --> 02:58:54,100 I don't think that we're going to have an issue with who's going to be mayor as a council 1939 02:58:54,100 --> 02:58:54,600 member. 1940 02:58:57,380 --> 02:59:02,060 She's not interested in being mayor, and I don't think 1941 02:59:07,240 --> 02:59:12,330 wanting to be mayor, just because 1942 02:59:12,950 --> 02:59:16,870 I think they want to be mayor because they have something to bring to the table. 1943 02:59:17,110 --> 02:59:24,170 I think this needs to be further expanded and allowing the residents of Victorville having 1944 02:59:24,170 --> 02:59:35,040 the voice. My next comment is I am happy to see that item 14 passed 1945 02:59:37,540 --> 02:59:38,860 easement part 1946 02:59:42,120 --> 02:59:53,680 zero five. I would like the city council to take that same process with the access to 1947 02:59:53,680 --> 02:59:54,420 of the City Library. 1948 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:29,060 City to the city library from 7th Street, Victor from 7th Circle Drive to the library so that we can have a smooth and safe access to that library. This is a perfect situation why our seniors need access to the library. We've not a lot of them do not have access to the Internet. That's the only place we can get information. 1949 03:00:29,060 --> 03:00:38,540 and that needs to be expanded and make easily accessible to all residents for the benefit of all VISTAs of your residents. 1950 03:00:41,850 --> 03:00:51,180 So we would like to ask, will we need consultees to have the, if we need a light pause in downtown. 1951 03:00:51,920 --> 03:00:56,260 We need a consultant to come and tell us, yes, it's starting. We have to pay $50,000. 1952 03:00:56,520 --> 03:00:57,400 Yep, 30 seconds. 1953 03:00:57,400 --> 03:01:02,180 is it not obvious that it starts that we have to see somebody to come and tell us this 1954 03:01:09,640 --> 03:01:09,880 one and 1955 03:01:09,880 --> 03:01:15,780 the way we need to consult this can tell us what we need to do when we have already made it 1956 03:01:15,780 --> 03:01:22,750 clear what we need. Thank you. Is there is there anyone else that would like to speak during public 1957 03:01:22,750 --> 03:01:23,070 comment? 1958 03:01:29,790 --> 03:01:31,230 Go ahead Paul you have three minutes. 1959 03:01:38,160 --> 03:01:42,320 The mayor will turn limits. You know I as a 1960 03:01:42,320 --> 03:01:49,480 constituent in the city. I look upon the city council as you know for guidance 1961 03:01:49,480 --> 03:01:51,160 leadership place 1962 03:01:56,660 --> 03:01:57,420 when the mayor 1963 03:02:06,160 --> 03:02:08,520 guidance of the city attorney I 1964 03:02:16,680 --> 03:02:17,240 mean the mayor 1965 03:02:17,240 --> 03:02:18,800 is the mayor she's not going to change 1966 03:02:21,840 --> 03:02:26,660 okay whether or not you must to make it 1967 03:02:26,660 --> 03:02:32,760 indefinite tonight or if you change the term limit decided to change it at the 1968 03:02:32,760 --> 03:02:34,280 next council meeting and we're 1969 03:03:09,860 --> 03:03:10,900 not even a why 1970 03:03:19,900 --> 03:03:20,820 are we doing it this way 1971 03:03:42,610 --> 03:03:42,830 I can 1972 03:03:42,830 --> 03:03:43,550 Thank 1973 03:03:49,020 --> 03:03:53,280 you. Is there anyone else that would like to speak during public comment? 1974 03:03:59,480 --> 03:04:02,780 The speakers and now it's the reports from the city manager. 1975 03:04:04,340 --> 03:04:07,560 Madam Mayor and members of the council, I have nothing to report at this time. 1976 03:04:13,260 --> 03:04:17,960 Now item 25, discussion and possible action regarding upcoming agenda items. 1977 03:04:19,060 --> 03:04:21,400 Council Member Cox, I believe left. 1978 03:04:23,040 --> 03:04:26,300 Council Member Jones, do you have anything? 1979 03:04:26,300 --> 03:04:30,040 I do thank you, Madam. 1980 03:04:30,260 --> 03:04:38,640 First, I'd like to move that we play on the possible agenda and item for discussion 1981 03:04:38,640 --> 03:04:45,600 and possible action, whereas we revised, instead of revising the policy and procedures 1982 03:04:45,600 --> 03:04:52,500 manual as it pertains to amending it so that we include the norms that the Council decided 1983 03:04:52,500 --> 03:04:55,840 upon in our governance work shop held in March of 2019. 1984 03:04:55,840 --> 03:05:00,080 Is there a second there 1985 03:05:04,430 --> 03:05:06,050 be no second the motion dies? 1986 03:05:09,440 --> 03:05:11,260 Do you have any other further items? 1987 03:05:16,500 --> 03:05:22,660 That's probably thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Gomez do you have any items to add? 1988 03:05:24,990 --> 03:05:29,730 Yeah there's a couple of things that have been looking that are happening around the world 1989 03:05:29,730 --> 03:05:35,950 and I think it's something that we can bring into the the world of Victorville. One being we understand 1990 03:05:35,950 --> 03:05:42,070 there's a high employment rate no sooner as we're going to start continuing this 1991 03:05:42,070 --> 03:05:46,530 fight and so I've been hearing a lot about eviction more accordion and I'm not 1992 03:05:46,530 --> 03:05:50,950 sure if it's within the league of this council to be able to look at how other 1993 03:05:50,950 --> 03:05:55,470 cities are looking at eviction more accordions and then a payback situation within 1994 03:05:55,470 --> 03:06:00,150 six months so that all our businesses or residents that could be potentially 1995 03:06:00,150 --> 03:06:06,170 out the COVID-19 affected areas would not suffer an eviction and we already know the 1996 03:06:06,170 --> 03:06:12,070 utilities shut off without the referring but to implement something on stock so that 1997 03:06:12,070 --> 03:06:17,510 it allows for a community to feel safe during these uncertain times during the public 1998 03:06:17,510 --> 03:06:24,610 crisis and so that's what I would like to make as a motion tonight to prepare and look 1999 03:06:24,610 --> 03:06:28,830 at how we can bring in eviction more terms to the city of Victorville is plausible for the 2000 03:06:28,830 --> 03:06:30,070 next to the prime floor of the majority? 2001 03:06:30,650 --> 03:06:32,590 Madam Mayor and members of the council, 2002 03:06:32,850 --> 03:06:34,950 if I might, and I apologize for the interruption, 2003 03:06:35,890 --> 03:06:38,630 there actually already is one in place 2004 03:06:38,630 --> 03:06:42,670 that was issued by the governor of the state of California 2005 03:06:42,670 --> 03:06:48,210 on March 27th and it did apply statewide 2006 03:06:48,210 --> 03:06:50,830 and it does affect us here in Victorville. 2007 03:06:52,150 --> 03:06:54,790 So effectively, there already is one in place. 2008 03:06:55,270 --> 03:06:56,950 So I thought I'd just share that with you 2009 03:06:56,950 --> 03:06:58,330 before you consider the item. 2010 03:07:00,470 --> 03:07:03,190 Okay is does that mean that that process needs to be 2011 03:07:03,190 --> 03:07:07,630 memorialized in the city of Victoros to affect directly our residents or how would they go about 2012 03:07:08,230 --> 03:07:14,650 this state law? It's a clear separate entity as the local government. It's state law right now so 2013 03:07:15,190 --> 03:07:23,630 we could not override or change state law. The reason I ask is because we're not a general city 2014 03:07:23,630 --> 03:07:28,590 word charter city which if it's the municipal affairs of the city we don't have to abide by state 2015 03:07:28,590 --> 03:07:30,430 but I don't know if that's conflictual in that term. 2016 03:07:30,710 --> 03:07:32,270 We still have to conform to state law. 2017 03:07:32,890 --> 03:07:34,190 So in this particular case, 2018 03:07:34,350 --> 03:07:36,410 the executive order would apply locally. 2019 03:07:38,720 --> 03:07:39,900 I think I have to see that. 2020 03:07:40,100 --> 03:07:41,840 The next item would be, 2021 03:07:43,660 --> 03:07:45,580 we have been talking a lot about 2022 03:07:46,100 --> 03:07:49,040 one of our disadvantaged populations being our seniors. 2023 03:07:49,900 --> 03:07:54,080 And I think it's time to begin to see 2024 03:07:54,620 --> 03:07:56,480 how we can implement a master plan 2025 03:07:56,480 --> 03:07:59,040 for our vulnerable population 2026 03:07:59,040 --> 03:08:02,300 to be able to test the scope, so to speak, 2027 03:08:02,360 --> 03:08:04,980 of how they're doing in our communities 2028 03:08:04,980 --> 03:08:07,060 and a master plan to directly survey 2029 03:08:07,060 --> 03:08:10,420 and create something that we're coming 2030 03:08:10,420 --> 03:08:11,560 about helping our seniors. 2031 03:08:12,020 --> 03:08:14,520 So that's something I would see merited 2032 03:08:14,520 --> 03:08:18,780 to be a discussion in possible action for the next 2033 03:08:18,780 --> 03:08:22,080 or future meeting no longer than 90 days. 2034 03:08:27,410 --> 03:08:28,430 Is there a second? 2035 03:08:28,430 --> 03:08:28,990 I 2036 03:08:31,420 --> 03:08:35,160 have a eye check on this regarding seniors. 2037 03:08:36,600 --> 03:08:36,700 Yes. 2038 03:08:39,870 --> 03:08:44,450 Madam Clerk, I have a parliamentary inquiry for our attorney on this. 2039 03:08:48,070 --> 03:08:54,710 I believe that this was, this agenda item request was made in the past and there wasn't a second on it. 2040 03:08:55,030 --> 03:09:01,010 So I need to know whether this can be, is the council didn't even wish to have any discussion much less. 2041 03:09:01,010 --> 03:09:01,990 Let's take a vote on it. 2042 03:09:02,170 --> 03:09:04,330 So I just don't know if 2043 03:09:06,540 --> 03:09:07,200 this falls. 2044 03:09:07,200 --> 03:09:07,860 I 2045 03:09:09,900 --> 03:09:16,600 would have to check if it has previously been agendized or discussed or she asked for 2046 03:09:16,600 --> 03:09:17,640 before. 2047 03:09:17,680 --> 03:09:25,200 It wasn't agendized, it was requested for an agenda item and to my recollection it didn't 2048 03:09:25,200 --> 03:09:34,020 get a second which clearly means that it dies, it fails but I didn't think the council didn't 2049 03:09:34,020 --> 03:09:35,720 even want to have a discussion about it. 2050 03:09:35,720 --> 03:09:36,540 They didn't vote, 2051 03:09:39,620 --> 03:09:42,700 seconded it for a vote, so I just don't know where 2052 03:09:44,940 --> 03:09:45,620 we go on that. 2053 03:09:46,600 --> 03:09:47,380 I'm just checking. 2054 03:09:47,540 --> 03:09:48,780 Okay, I would like to remind 2055 03:09:52,110 --> 03:09:58,950 that the majority of accounts will supersede the policies. 2056 03:09:59,770 --> 03:10:05,750 And so if I have made a motion and I have at least one person who seconds it, and minimal 2057 03:10:05,750 --> 03:10:11,990 a third person that says we would like to hear this in the agenda, I think that I know 2058 03:10:12,790 --> 03:10:18,590 assertively that that overrides the policy because we are the policy makers, and I would 2059 03:10:18,590 --> 03:10:23,810 like for my for Rita Ramirez to know that for a second, it still holds validity. 2060 03:10:24,590 --> 03:10:28,510 And so after this session, I don't think we should have this session, now that's not the 2061 03:10:28,510 --> 03:10:29,270 time to do this. 2062 03:10:29,910 --> 03:10:34,530 I was just asking for an agenda item, and I appreciate the parliamentary discussion, but I think it's 2063 03:10:34,530 --> 03:10:41,270 a way to work on adding something to the agenda as our structure of a majority speaks louder 2064 03:10:41,270 --> 03:10:42,570 because we are the policy makers. 2065 03:10:43,330 --> 03:10:47,710 But begging to differ, we govern through law, policy and procedure. 2066 03:10:48,730 --> 03:10:55,170 We don't suffocate law, policy and procedure, just not when. 2067 03:10:56,390 --> 03:11:01,790 The council policy was previously adopted by a majority of the council members. 2068 03:11:01,910 --> 03:11:05,030 In fact, I believe it was on the unanimous vote to adopt the policy manual. 2069 03:11:05,270 --> 03:11:09,330 The policy manual has a provision dealing with failed motions and indicates that they 2070 03:11:09,330 --> 03:11:12,910 We should not be brought up at a subsequent meeting unless the council suspends the rules 2071 03:11:13,320 --> 03:11:17,650 as provided in section below and that requirement to suspend the rules requires a fourth-fifth 2072 03:11:17,650 --> 03:11:17,970 vote. 2073 03:11:22,190 --> 03:11:23,590 Of the entire membership. 2074 03:11:23,870 --> 03:11:24,130 Correct. 2075 03:11:26,960 --> 03:11:27,220 Okay. 2076 03:11:27,440 --> 03:11:33,160 So if you notice what we just did, as three people, we suspended the fourth-fifth, should 2077 03:11:33,160 --> 03:11:34,720 we be doing that again and again? 2078 03:11:34,900 --> 03:11:40,260 I think this is not the way we should be doing stuff, but it creates a way of not having 2079 03:11:40,260 --> 03:11:47,040 for our community like our most vulnerable seniors, which I think they married a master planner, 2080 03:11:47,040 --> 03:11:50,280 at least such a session in hopeful implementation and implementation. 2081 03:11:51,020 --> 03:11:52,700 Why are we having this assessment? 2082 03:11:52,860 --> 03:11:57,580 Should I just make a recommendation for to suspend the order of the four six votes, 2083 03:11:57,840 --> 03:12:01,280 once I have a second and then have a second for that one, and then have a vote, 2084 03:12:01,420 --> 03:12:05,180 and then go back to adding some supervision, is that how we're going to start doing things? 2085 03:12:05,600 --> 03:12:07,800 Because if that's the case, Rita, 2086 03:12:07,800 --> 03:12:15,640 I'm making a motion to pretend the force is to be able to add this to an agenda as we have that first vote. 2087 03:12:16,640 --> 03:12:20,560 You need a fourth-fifth vote to make that effective. 2088 03:12:21,380 --> 03:12:22,000 Otherwise, you're in. 2089 03:12:22,800 --> 03:12:23,400 You need that. 2090 03:12:28,220 --> 03:12:28,860 Yes, yes. 2091 03:12:29,100 --> 03:12:34,300 Per the rules that the council has adopted and that you have all agreed to follow, that requires a fourth-fifth vote. 2092 03:12:36,500 --> 03:12:41,000 Okay, so in other words, you're telling me that as a majority, we cannot suspend that. Is that what you're saying? 2093 03:12:41,000 --> 03:12:42,960 That's what you have already agreed to, yes. 2094 03:12:44,700 --> 03:12:46,480 Is that what you're saying? 2095 03:12:46,700 --> 03:12:47,500 That's what I'm saying, yes. 2096 03:12:47,680 --> 03:12:49,980 That's what you, as a council, have adopted 2097 03:12:49,980 --> 03:12:51,640 as your policy and procedures. 2098 03:12:54,120 --> 03:12:55,980 Okay, so I'm nice. 2099 03:12:57,020 --> 03:12:58,840 I can still go ahead and make that motion. 2100 03:12:59,040 --> 03:13:00,880 I have a second, and I'm going to pause for the vote. 2101 03:13:01,240 --> 03:13:01,600 And? 2102 03:13:01,820 --> 03:13:04,420 I mean, I need to know if there's at least a first person. 2103 03:13:04,660 --> 03:13:05,920 And for the benefit of the council, 2104 03:13:06,140 --> 03:13:08,440 the policy manual is consistent with both the Brown Act 2105 03:13:08,440 --> 03:13:10,520 and the Rosenberg's rules of order. 2106 03:13:13,710 --> 03:13:18,950 Okay, so then you're asking me to ask for, no, no, you didn't say suspension is for fits, right? 2107 03:13:19,350 --> 03:13:19,590 Correct. 2108 03:13:22,640 --> 03:13:27,760 So then you're saying that for fits has been a supersede the majority of adding something to the agenda? 2109 03:13:28,120 --> 03:13:33,480 I'm saying that's what you have agreed to, that's what Rosenberg provides, rules of parliamentary procedure provide that. 2110 03:13:35,340 --> 03:13:38,880 I know, but I don't want to argue with you, that's your interpretation. 2111 03:13:39,800 --> 03:13:43,880 No, it's not my interpretation, that is the language you have all agreed to in the policy manual. 2112 03:13:43,880 --> 03:13:47,560 and that is the, that is what Rosenberg provides. 2113 03:13:49,130 --> 03:13:53,990 Can you read the language that the majority of the council agreed to? 2114 03:13:56,250 --> 03:14:01,850 You signed, you all signed something in green to the policy manual. 2115 03:14:03,230 --> 03:14:08,710 The acknowledgement and receipt of the understanding that upon first entering office upon election 2116 03:14:08,710 --> 03:14:12,050 to any subsequent turn or ever city council policy and procedures manual 2117 03:14:12,050 --> 03:14:14,670 is updated by city council resolution which you have done. 2118 03:14:14,670 --> 03:14:20,970 Every council member shall sign a statement affirming that he or she has received red understood the provision set forth in this 2119 03:14:20,970 --> 03:14:23,790 Manual and furthermore agrees to abide by them 2120 03:14:27,010 --> 03:14:29,250 Okay, and you're your three minutes are up 2121 03:14:32,240 --> 03:14:36,800 Okay, so I still I still talk for that and I had a second so we need a third 2122 03:14:43,540 --> 03:14:46,080 What did you lost me? 2123 03:14:46,440 --> 03:14:47,840 I wanted 2124 03:14:49,200 --> 03:14:53,900 Discuss and do a possible action to create a master plan to survey our senior school 2125 03:14:53,920 --> 03:14:53,920 So, 2126 03:14:57,900 --> 03:14:58,840 thank you. 2127 03:15:03,310 --> 03:15:08,590 And council member Cox is absent. Council member Jones, that 2128 03:15:12,820 --> 03:15:13,580 motion fails. 2129 03:15:21,810 --> 03:15:22,110 Okay. 2130 03:15:24,780 --> 03:15:29,920 Mayor Pro Temer-Maris, do you have, do you have any agenda items you'd like to add? 2131 03:15:35,890 --> 03:15:38,270 Mayor Garcia, do you have any items that you'd like to add? 2132 03:15:41,440 --> 03:15:42,500 No. Thank you. 2133 03:15:45,160 --> 03:15:50,040 Now it's the time for reports from council members. Council member Jones, 2134 03:15:52,760 --> 03:15:53,380 do you have any? 2135 03:15:53,380 --> 03:16:00,560 Yes, well, just very briefly, I'm not going to repeat all of the kudos that we gave for 2136 03:16:00,560 --> 03:16:11,460 staff and how proud we are of how they've handled so admirably this crisis in our country 2137 03:16:11,460 --> 03:16:17,120 and in our world, but it's a local level that they've just done an amazing job. 2138 03:16:17,120 --> 03:16:28,860 I really do want to just let everyone know that I've continued to do my work as best I could, 2139 03:16:29,020 --> 03:16:33,500 given the current crisis and our world has certainly changed in the way that we handle 2140 03:16:33,500 --> 03:16:33,820 meetings. 2141 03:16:34,680 --> 03:16:40,660 I've continued to participate in outside agency meetings, and I've represented the city in 2142 03:16:40,660 --> 03:16:45,180 the Premier's absence in accordance with policy, and it would be expected by my colleagues. 2143 03:16:46,100 --> 03:16:46,400 Thank you. 2144 03:16:46,400 --> 03:16:54,340 Oh, and one more thing, we had to speak earlier that I would never be interested in being 2145 03:16:54,340 --> 03:16:54,960 the mayor. 2146 03:16:55,920 --> 03:16:57,260 Excuse me, I just ran up the stairs. 2147 03:17:00,640 --> 03:17:06,020 And to be very clear, my remarks were that at the last session I was not interested in being 2148 03:17:06,020 --> 03:17:10,720 mayor, because I would never want to serve in a way that my colleagues didn't want. 2149 03:17:11,120 --> 03:17:14,900 That doesn't mean that if I were asked to do it in the future, that I wouldn't be willing. 2150 03:17:14,900 --> 03:17:18,600 Thank you. Sorry, I ran up the stairs, I'm not a breath. 2151 03:17:20,640 --> 03:17:21,420 Councilmember Gomez. 2152 03:17:24,280 --> 03:17:27,960 Yes, particularly the comments are going to be very 2153 03:17:27,960 --> 03:17:31,820 appointment and very assertive and say always you are. I want my colleagues to 2154 03:17:31,820 --> 03:17:36,240 understand that within the power of the majority in any local government, anything 2155 03:17:36,240 --> 03:17:40,220 right, we are the policymakers and we make those policies and I don't think we 2156 03:17:40,220 --> 03:17:49,400 We need to allow people who are unelected to be able to do things to support methods and 2157 03:17:49,400 --> 03:17:54,540 strategies that really circumvent what the majority is. 2158 03:17:55,120 --> 03:17:56,560 And I think today has been witnessed. 2159 03:17:56,800 --> 03:18:02,400 I know today it has been witnessed and witnessed and used to the force of an authority figure. 2160 03:18:02,620 --> 03:18:06,620 Like I say, a lot of the authority where the title comes, the initiation. 2161 03:18:06,620 --> 03:18:16,900 And so any document doesn't matter what is being said with the power of three can be changed. 2162 03:18:17,080 --> 03:18:24,220 And I think this is the time where we need to really push, really understand, really know that we're going to be tested. 2163 03:18:25,160 --> 03:18:30,620 All the interpretation is based on an interpretation of one, two, three people in interpretation slides. 2164 03:18:30,620 --> 03:18:33,540 That's why we have different power tiers 2165 03:18:33,540 --> 03:18:36,080 in terms of legislation, executive, 2166 03:18:36,640 --> 03:18:37,780 and the important areas. 2167 03:18:38,460 --> 03:18:39,600 And I think as the majority, 2168 03:18:39,820 --> 03:18:41,300 you need to start acknowledging and taking 2169 03:18:41,700 --> 03:18:44,800 an understanding of what is really happening right now 2170 03:18:44,800 --> 03:18:47,100 to work, what is the movement that is 2171 03:18:47,100 --> 03:18:49,220 since it's long overdue. 2172 03:18:49,880 --> 03:18:52,840 And I don't think, and I know we should not 2173 03:18:52,840 --> 03:18:57,440 be individuals who are afraid to stand up 2174 03:18:57,440 --> 03:19:00,180 for what we believe in, particularly in times 2175 03:19:00,180 --> 03:19:05,900 like COVID-19, particularly in times where we are really pushed to do things that we would 2176 03:19:05,900 --> 03:19:11,220 never think we do when we create a narrative of it's bad or it's not bad. Remember, everything 2177 03:19:11,220 --> 03:19:16,560 we do has every other plan from good and bad no matter what it is that you smile at someone. 2178 03:19:17,220 --> 03:19:20,300 Someone's going to think you're making fun of them. Someone else is going to think you're calling 2179 03:19:20,300 --> 03:19:24,460 them a hypocrite. Someone else is going to think you're calling them a sweetheart. So interpretations 2180 03:19:24,460 --> 03:19:27,380 are very personal and very perceptible. 2181 03:19:28,040 --> 03:19:29,460 And so I encourage my council members 2182 03:19:29,460 --> 03:19:31,140 to keep making the best decisions 2183 03:19:31,500 --> 03:19:33,340 and understanding that our authorities 2184 03:19:33,340 --> 03:19:35,460 overrides any other authority 2185 03:19:35,460 --> 03:19:38,300 that's unelected for the city of the jungle. 2186 03:19:38,440 --> 03:19:39,620 That's why we were elected 2187 03:19:39,620 --> 03:19:44,420 because we're strongholders of making these decisions 2188 03:19:44,820 --> 03:19:46,760 that a lot of unelected people cannot 2189 03:19:46,760 --> 03:19:48,840 and would not make user power force 2190 03:19:49,140 --> 03:19:50,780 to manipulate different sources 2191 03:19:50,780 --> 03:19:52,360 of what we can and cannot face. 2192 03:19:52,360 --> 03:20:00,100 So I encourage you to keep standing up, keep doing what you know is right, you have that intuition and that vision, follow it. 2193 03:20:00,840 --> 03:20:01,660 Thank you. 2194 03:20:06,620 --> 03:20:07,920 Mayor Pro Temmer, Maris. 2195 03:20:11,460 --> 03:20:11,820 Thank you. 2196 03:20:12,000 --> 03:20:20,700 So I would like to say thank God that we're working together and helping. 2197 03:20:23,250 --> 03:20:28,270 I do want to thank the medical field, all those who are working hard to save lives. 2198 03:20:28,830 --> 03:20:33,230 One life is worth more than any money you could ever pay. 2199 03:20:33,230 --> 03:20:40,050 Let me say, being that I haven't been home in 90 days, I have been in the hospital since January 2200 03:20:40,050 --> 03:20:47,650 the 6th and I do plan to return. However, when the next time you see me, I will be disabled 2201 03:20:48,130 --> 03:20:55,710 but I will still be a city person, how to be a member of the city council of Victor Bill. 2202 03:20:55,710 --> 03:21:04,590 And I thank Kaiser and everyone else who has kept me alive, ready to work as 2203 03:21:07,760 --> 03:21:09,180 grateful to my country. 2204 03:21:09,420 --> 03:21:11,320 I am grateful to the city of this building. 2205 03:21:11,880 --> 03:21:15,460 I am grateful for all of everyone who helps us. 2206 03:21:22,670 --> 03:21:23,310 Mayor Garcia. 2207 03:21:27,130 --> 03:21:33,310 I just want to say thank you to our city staff, our city manager and everyone. 2208 03:21:52,040 --> 03:22:03,360 I just want to say I'm happy to do so, and I sure hope that this will get better, and 2209 03:22:03,360 --> 03:22:04,680 we have a better life I'm doing. 2210 03:22:05,260 --> 03:22:10,080 Thank you, and I believe that's what we have before our consult, before this meeting, 2211 03:22:10,080 --> 03:22:12,000 Therefore, I extend the movement.